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Alaginger

Friday, April 25, 2003 - 01:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, Clp.........I never saw the first Survivor except the very last Episode (which is actually where I got hooked). When you guys mentioned Sean, I thought you meant Sean as in Sean and Rob and Vee, etc........

Thanks for that update.......now I have to go rethink that part.........(LOL)

Alaginger

Friday, April 25, 2003 - 02:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay........I really feel foolish putting this picture up here, but I would hate to have it be something, and I passed it up. I think it is Amazon natives doing a tribal dance .... and it could be just for an opener for the show, or it could be entertainment for the winner(s) of the RC, but.........
dance
Is that Christy to the left with her hair in braids on the arm of some dancer, and Matt to the right (back to us) with another dancer on his arm? Probably not......but I just couldn't make up my mind.

Clp

Friday, April 25, 2003 - 03:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Alaginger

Totally off topic, but I am wondering if the Ala in your screen name stands for Alabama? Just curious cause that's where I live!:)

Alaginger

Friday, April 25, 2003 - 04:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Clp.......I was living in Alabama, across the Bay from Mobile, in 1996 when we first went online. So, yes the Ala does stand for Alabama Ginger. After both my parents passed away, we moved to Louisiana to be near the grandchildren, and I said, "Hey, I don't have to change my screen-name, because now I can just become "A La. Ginger"

Pamy

Friday, April 25, 2003 - 04:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Christy doesn't win the game I hope she gets this reward. Jenna and Hei<d>i went down even further on my list after last nite and then I read those transcripts above and REALLY can't stand them!!! IMO, those 2 are far worse than Jeri or any other 'villian' on past Survivor's. How mean for them to say Christy better not win a visit from her family!!! I can't wait to watch those 2 lose. I can't wait for Hei<d>i to go and watch Jenna sit around all alone, she better not try and befriend Christy!

(el)

Pamy

Friday, April 25, 2003 - 04:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe the surprise at TC is a tie and Jeff is holding up the losers name and that is why <Heidi> has that look on her face.

(el)

Webkitty

Friday, April 25, 2003 - 05:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"Matthew makes an incredible sacrifice so that others can be given the opportunity of a lifetime"

This means more than one person gets the reward.
Maybe Matt is teamed up with Butch, they win the RC, and Matt bows out leaving Butch to take Christy in his place.

Is this a family visit or an Amazon feast/entertainment reward? Or both.

What could be such a shock at TC? The clues already say Heidi and Jenna feel left out, so Heidi getting booted won't be a shock (especially to me since I know she goes anyway) Maybe Rob flips again and forces a tie between Heidi and Matt. THAT would be a shock. Then, Matt/Christy/Butch vote him out next episode for flipping.

I'm at a disadvantage not being able to see the web promos. I feel so frustrated.........

Pamy

Friday, April 25, 2003 - 05:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP

Webkitty..I like your idea, and that would explain Rob going next week.

Alaginger

Friday, April 25, 2003 - 06:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Web, I cut and pasted this from Survivor Fever:

JP: One of you will win a visit from your loved one.

I didn't tape the show, so if somebody will look at the end of the show where they show the Promo for next week, I think you will hear JP say those words. That infers that only one Survivor can win.

However, "Matthew makes an incredible sacrifice so that others can be given the opportunity of a lifetime" could mean the Survivor that wins and their loved one. Thats two people, and I took the clue of others to mean those two people. Just another way of looking at this.

Also, regarding the native dancing picture I posted above. That picture was posted just before a few pictures of Richard Hatch were posted, so it's possible that the tribal scene is from a previous Survivor.

Hippyt

Friday, April 25, 2003 - 06:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hermi,they carry their machetes with them everytime they leave the camp. Good stuff over here today.

Caroline

Friday, April 25, 2003 - 10:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just a thought here: Since MB / JP likley know about the C1 spolier on Heidi, could they just be trying to throw us off with 'a shock at TC'...Also, could it be, for those not following the boards, that Heidi's boot will be a shock?

I can see no reason why Rob would jepordize his new 'power of 4' to align back up with the girls against Matt or Christy...

Also, he may see the importance of taking out at least one of the girls to break their future power plays (which would preserve his and/or Matt's F4 placement).

Alaginger

Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 05:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Caroline.......I think MB/JP think Heidi's boot at this point is a shock. The promos showing Rob and Jenna arguing, sure make it look like Jenna is the target.
What is throwing me is that if Jenna wins immunity, booting Heidi would not be a shock to anybody........
So, does this mean that Jenna doesn't win immunity? If so, what in the world makes them boot Heidi over Jenna. I don't think either one of them is a challenge threat. question

Csnog

Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 06:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Rob knows he has to break up the boobsie twins before they can plot against him. Looking around who would you choose to go into the final 2?

Not Christy
Not Butch
Not Matt
He is thinking about those 4 votes in the final.

Rob knows he needs someone who is disliked by the jury so Jenna is his sure bet. JMO

Alaginger

Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 06:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh.......good point Csnog!!!

Rob wants to make sure Jenna is opposite him at the end, and he knows Heidi will give her vote to Jenna no matter when she goes!!! Good reasoning. I didn't think of that. And, in the eyes of MB/JP......Heidi going would be a shocker.

Also, the promo says that Jenna is so aggravated with Rob for booting Alex, that she tells everybody else on the tribe what Rob's plans had been all along.......but Rob has already fessed this up to Matthew, so probably not too much damage done there. So Rob says, "Hey, my new group of 4.....I prefer to boot Heidi and keep Jenna, and they say......Duh, okay!!!.... just so one of them goes.

So, if this scenario is right, somebody else wins immunity.....and I'm betting Matthew does again.

Man, this Survivor is more fun every day!!!

Alaginger

Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 07:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Survivor Fever has a very good supposition on their website this morning regarding the RC.

ball
"Frescoball is a simple but addictive Brazilian racket game enjoyed at the beach. Probably the second biggest ball game in Brazil after soccer. No nets or courts required because you volley the ball. Always leave open the option of people competing in teams and then the winning team competing against each other for the prize. And you can't always depend on MB throwing one of these out there when there are even numbers. Possibly something as simple as unburying the paddles and then the first pair to volley a predetermined number back and forth between partners wins? Which would explain the hodge-podge placement of everyone (ie. Jenna running across Rob holding his "paddle")!
rob

Pamy

Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 11:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Did anyone notice the convo between Matt & Butch this week? I almost got the feeling those 2 have had an alliance/plan for awhile. The way they said lets go we dont want people to see us talking this much.

I don't think Heidi's boot would be a shock to 'non board' people. They now know that the 4 alliance is Rob, Matt, Butch, and Christy because of the last vote, so you would have to figure the next 2 to go would be Heidi and Jenna.

Webkitty

Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 11:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
*Matthew makes an incredible sacrifice so that others can be given the opportunity of a lifetime. But the newfound respect Matthew enjoys makes Rob rethink his new alliance.
This has got to be the RC, Matt wins and lets someone else go in his place. Either that, or he obviously (to them) throws the challenge. Letting the "others" (plural) have a chance to win.
Rob rethinking his alliance with Matt is another whole post.

*Still stung by Rob's betrayal of the alliance, an enraged Jenna tells the entire tribe about Rob's secret plans, revealing his strategies to everyone. Will Jenna's revelations turn the tribe against Rob?
Not really. They all have told us in confessionals that they know Rob is playing the game hard, they won't be surprised and Rob has already fessed up (for the most part) to Matt.
The only thing that might backfire against him is the information we were given in the Insider yesterday. Rob was the one who coined the term "crazy tribe" for M/C/B and they don't know that Rob has been joining in with H/J/A to make fun of them behind their back. This might sting.
I can't access the web promos. When Matt is calling Rob a whienie, is he joking or serious? His demenor when saying it could shed some light.

*Feeling ostracized and betrayed, Jenna and heidi refuse to help out around the camp. Will this put the final nails in their coffins?
No, I think something else will. Jenna and Heidi have been lazy all along, this is nothing new.
I think resentment has been brewing towards these two since the beginning. I think Butch witnessed the same things Roger did that made Roger dislike Heidi so much when the tribes switched. Christy can't stand them, Matt doesn't respect them, and Rob had shown he has no love lost for them. He told us in a confessional a few episodes back that he is ready to boot either one of them when the time comes. They are toast. (well, at least Heidi is)
Plus, I think Jenna and/or Heidi have a hissy fit over the RC. THIS is probably what drives the nails.

Seamonkey

Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 11:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If Rob wanted to keep one of the twins for F2, wouldn't he want to keep Heidi? Seems like she'd be more hated than Jenna, or less sympathetic (the mom with cancer-card) or less competitive (had Heidi ever won anything?).. so it does make me wonder if Jenna has immunity so Heidi is chosen to go.

Pamy

Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 11:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Webkitty..I agree about them having a hissy fit at RC, oooohhhhh this is gonna be so fun to watch!!!
If Matt does make this sacrifice then I can see why JP said we will like this years winner.

Seamonkey

Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 11:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Your mouth to the jury's ears, Pamy!!

Webkitty

Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 11:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The general viewing audience would not be shocked that Heidi goes next. My parents only watch the show and never come to the internet for added value. They have been looking forward to Heidi going every week since the beginning.

If something shocking happens at TC, I think its something more than just Heidi getting the boot.
A tie, or maybe this is when Rob sticks his foot in his mouth.
I'm still waiting for this to happen. Actually, next ep is a tie situation, that would fit in with Jeff's comments about a tie, someone having F2 all sewed up but then drives their car off the road because they stuck their foot in their mouth at TC. This would be shocking. Leading to Rob getting booted the next epsisode after that.

Webkitty

Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 12:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Seamonkey, I agree. Heidi is the better choice to take to F2, for all the reasons you stated. Jenna winning the IC is a real possiblity. She's done it before.

Oh yea Pamy! Can't wait. <evil grin>

Unless, its HEIDI that gets to go on the RC, causing Jenna to have sour grapes, maybe Heidi is voted out 5-1. Naw, it can't be a simple as that, can it?

Seamonkey

Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 12:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That would be cool, 5-1, but I think Heidi would then hate Jenna, as she is said to really hate Christy ..

Webkitty

Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 12:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually, Heidi never said she hated Christy. This was cleared up my Milkshakey over at Sucks.
Heidi said she just never had anything in common with Christy and never got close to her. Hope this helps.

Also, could someone post the TV Guide blurb that said ep 10 TC would be shocking?

The more I think about it, the more I think a 5-1 vote for Heidi to go would be the most non-shocking. Something else must happen.
Rob looks mighty relived and stressed in that vid-cap at TC, I wonder if this is when Jenna unloads on him, causing some to change their agreed on votes from Christy to Rob at the last minute, causing a tie. Maybe Christy gets the purple rock. But then, whey would there be a vid-cap of Jeff holding up the final vote?

Seamonkey

Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 01:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
MsKitty.. thanks for clearing that up.. about Heidi vs Christy..