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Hermione69

Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 09:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
P.S. you guys have just about convinced me that it will be Deena.

Micknrc

Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 10:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh no, Hermione-- I'M not even convinced yet! Just thinking through all the possibilities!

Webkitty

Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 10:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Mick, let me go get the exact quote regarding the person who drives themselves off the road, be right back...........

Car54

Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 10:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually, I have been visualizing a surprise Deena boot all week...totally different way of getting there, but the same result.

I love it when there is no whiff of it, then the minute the show starts you see the handwriting on the wall.

Either way, for me it is win/win...I really like Deena and think she is a hell of a lot of fun in the game, but I also love it when things go totally off track, so if Dave or Alex go, we get another week of Rob and Deena's plotting...if Deena goes, we see the whole thing blow up and a re-alignment...and if the CO spoiler is true, and it does blow up...then things MUST blow up and re-align again to get us to the F2.

Fun, fun, fun.

Hey, watch for spiders and crocodiles tonight...they are the symbols to watch.

Hermione69

Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 10:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, can someone who can get to the link in the F2 Spoiler thread email me who the F2 are rumored to be?? My school's security software will not let me access it!!

Fruitbat

Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 10:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Interesting Webkitty. I don't think the mask breaking will be telling. That lesson was leared on Marquesas and we saw Thailand being very playful with it. But that does not rule out the handwriting on the wall and your senario from happening.

Square, messing with me is like taking candy from a baby, you get no points for poking a squishy brain.

Fruitbat

Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 10:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Any reason the driving car comment cannot refer to Deena tonight?

Hermione69

Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 10:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"poking a squishy brain"

ROFLMAOPIMP for the umpteenth time today!

Webkitty

Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 10:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
(I really need to learn how to do ccp on this webtv)

Here is the Jeff statement he made on the radio interview, as posted by Orangeena over at sucks spoiler board:
(question from UGO was: "What Surprises you most"

His response to follow in the next post......hold on, it will take me a bit to type it.....

Webkitty

Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 10:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"What surprised me most is the same thing that has surprised me from the beginning. The thing that surprises me is the thing I have come to believe most about human nature: You cannot change who you are. You can have a situation where a certain person is in the driver's seat, and all they have to do to get to the final two is to just not drive the car off the road, and you show up at a challenge or tribal council and before you know it, they are turning so hard to the right they're in the ditch, they are past the detour sign, they are so far past go that you can't even get them back. And you think, how did this happen? Well, it happened because they can't change who they are, and either an event happened that caused them to react, or something was said at a tribal council and before you know it, they are sticking their foot so far down their throat that it's lodges forever. That was a long kind of meandering analogy. The thing that surprises me is that nothing is for certain. We will sit there and say, "OK, it looks like it's these five against these three, and it's going to be a numbers game," and then you show up and, all of a sudden, it's a big shift; we are now at four vs. four. Well, so and so said somehting to such and such and now they are mad at each other and they are going to switch tribes and the other guy doesn't know it. And you're going, "Oh my God, how did this happen? They are screwing up their whole game." But, you can't change their nature."

(excuse typos)

Webkitty

Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 10:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bat, I agree, the mask breaking will not be the telling. I think Rob and Matt are the two that get into it, and because of that, Matt joins the girls to cause a surprise tie. Rob gets the purple rock.
I think these two will have *words* next week, so we won't know if this plays out this way until then. But, Deena going does make sense to me now. Her weight loss is not an issue for me at this point, she is much thinner already. I am sitting here looking at her pre-show picuture, and the difference is striking. I think even if she puts back on a few pounds before returning to work, the weight loss would be noticible, especially with a tan.

I am also looking at Alex's picuture, and I don't understand why there were no weight loss spoilers on him. In his pre-show pic, he looks chunky compared to what he looks like now on the show, and if he lasts to ep10, he will be even skinnier. This is the only thing that is making me nervous about Deena going tonight.

Fruitbat

Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 11:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I lean toward Dave(or Alex)going here at 2:18. :)

Deena, Rob, Jenna, Matt and Heidi vs Dave, Butch and Alex make the 5/3 split.

All is good, the 5 can pick off the 3 men. Deena, Jenna and Heidi then in turn pick off Rob and Christy. Deena is F3 and has a good shot at the game.

Too many shifts have to happen to get her off tonight. Only three days have passed and we hear Rob nervous about Heidi and Dave. (we think)

Something goes wrong next week to send Rob to the other side and Deena is out in the tie vote and is furious at Rob. He car in in the ditch.

Micknrc

Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 11:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
okay-- (I am now officially in need of professional help)

looking at the dates: (yes my trusty legal pad is on my knees)

4/3:

4/10:

4/17: RECRAP

4/24:

5/1: Heidi (as per Milkshaky)


that leaves us with 4 potential boots for three available episodes.

Dave/Alex
Rob/Deena

So let's try again--

4/3:Dave (stated boot), Alex (Deena's stated choice)

OR TDT and Car's pick of Deena (and TDT doesn't sound all that convinced)

4/10: The infamous tie which ruins the ruling party-- which is the main reason I still have a hard time with Deena going this week--that would pre-empt the shocker showdown.

result: Rob or Deena

4/17: RECRAP

4/24: The leftover over of Dave/Alex or Rob/Deena. Of these four, who makes it past Heidi to F5? This might be the key to unlocking it all...

5/1: Heidi (as per Milkshaky)


I feel like I'm not expressing myself well anymore....chime in anytime on any point

Fruitbat

Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 11:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well I do agree as I said just above your post that I can't make it work for Deena to go this week and have the big tie next week.

I can't follow you though. (shuffles through my papers to find I had forgotton about Milkshaky and Heidi, crap. I will be back in a minute.

Wanna do group therapy?

Fruitbat

Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 11:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Deena may blow it at TC tonight or at a challenge and mention "the women" having the power or being F4 or something like that, sending Matt and Rob over to the other boys for next week. Just a thought. It has something to do with Deena and her woman power trip.

Ok still at the drawing board to put Heidi out on 5/1. Just wanted to throw that in.

Micknrc

Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 11:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Milkshaky has insisted down the line that Heidi goes on May 1 (date rather than epi#). There was some debate as to whether that meant an F5 or F6 finish for her. Now that the recrap episode has been confirmed, that would mean F6 for her. (someone check the math-- I'm just going on faith that other posters know what they're talking about)

Car54

Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 11:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Mick, if I had spoken with TDT, he would be more confident. I am a very good arguer.

I am not at all sure...I have a 2-3 way totally flexible plan for how to get to the Milkshaky/Heidi boot.

The sequence of Alex/Dave/Deena is pretty much interchangeable for my sequence, but who goes when will impact what happens after Heidi.

For my sequence to work...I need Dave to stay tonight...if he goes, I am in the toilet.

I am at work and they are actually making me work at work <those ••••••••!>, so I gotta go...but trust me...that night I was up all night watching the ChillOne thread appear and disappear, it all became clear to me (oh wait..that was April Fools day...damn.)

The cool thing about all this is, a couple of seasons ago I would be totally obsessed about it...now any way it goes, I am having great fun..I love that we have 3 very very viable candidates to be booted this late in the week.

Webkitty

Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 11:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh crap, Snewser just picked Dave to go this week.....I have a headache

Micknrc

Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 11:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay Snewser just picked Dave in red so I feel vindicated--Dave is the obvious boot tonight--things start to get sticky next week...

Hermione69

Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 11:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You beat me, Webkitty! I was just coming here to post this! May I gloat a little? If you scroll up, I've been saying Dave all along until all of you started in on Deena! LOL!

And it is back in red so he is pretty positive this week.

Car54

Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 11:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Mick, Milkshaky confirmed 5/1 yesterday again. He too was confused about the dates/etc and the recrap was not on the schedule yet, so I think he is still sure.

I don't think Deena's boot will really be due to her own actions...I think it will be due to other people's agendas.

Hermione69

Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 11:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
EXCUSE ME, MICK! Step away from my gloat! ROFL!

Fruitbat

Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 11:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't figure how Jenna survives for F2 if Deena goes next week. That leaves her without a strong alliance. I cannot imagine how the loyalities realign.

Car, you are going to have to tell work to give you some time here. I want to hear your opinion.

I have been successful in accomplishing absolutely nothing today.

Hermione69

Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 11:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You gloated, Fruitbat. In A.I. Doesn't that count for anything?

Micknrc

Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 11:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dudes (dudettes!)

We are all posting so close together I am just now starting to see what's goin' on! LOL