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Denecee

Friday, May 02, 2003 - 11:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cassie, the finale is on Mother's Day the 11th

Cassie

Friday, May 02, 2003 - 11:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks guys! I take it the finale will be on the following Thursday then? (I checked the CBS site but they give no info)

Spygirl

Friday, May 02, 2003 - 11:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
We have this coming Thursday the 8th to get down to the final 4. The finale is the 11th.

Alaginger

Friday, May 02, 2003 - 12:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just got in from a half-day meeting, and ran off right after posting the above pictures. So, after reading through all the posts after the pictures.......I need to tell you guys this.

Those pictures are suppose to denote the RC at next Thursday's show (not the Sunday show). I say this because at Survivor Fever where I got them, they are shown in sequence. The one with Butch coming out of the cage with SUNDAY written across it, is probably not the SUNDAY show, but from the challenge on next Thursday's show since they probably aren't showing us any caps from the following (Sunday) show yet. The SUNDAY written across the picture probably just means that they were at the point in the promo where they wanted to make sure to tell us that the finale would be aired on a Sunday (11th) instead of a Thursday (15th).

The question asked above about is that really Heidi in the cage next to Butch. I got that off of the Survivor Fever website because they said something about Heidi in the next cage. I think that's right because of the pale pink top. I think the dark above is not hair or mud, but just shadows that are blocking out her face. Strictly going on build and pink top here.

I'll see if I can get some more pictures now that I'm back home.

Curlyq

Friday, May 02, 2003 - 02:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You know, I don't think Butch is getting burned in that picture. He really looks like he's dancing, throwing his hands in the air and kicking up his leg. Plus, Rob looks like he's laughing behind him. Of course, I wouldn't put it past Rob to laugh if Butch got hit by a spark. Still, since the roof of the shelter is seen in the picture, either this was taken before the fire or after the fire is out and they've rebuilt the roof.

Hey, maybe Butch wins the car and that's why he's dancing, or maybe they're happy because they just got the tree mail that one of them will win a car.

Alaginger

Friday, May 02, 2003 - 02:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
These are the only 2 pictures I found right now that I think are worth posting.

after
Heidi and Jenna seem to be walking away from the cages (in the background) and neither looks like they just won a challenge.
after2
Butch with Heidi and Jenna in what appears to be a winner's-type pose. Like Butch might be saying, "Hey look at me. I won a car. Want to go for a quick spin, girls???"

Also, over at TDT, they are saying they think all these pictures are Thursday's RC, and IC pictures haven't been shown yet.

Cillysue2

Friday, May 02, 2003 - 09:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
With the snippet they showed us for next show they showed Heidi suggesting she would vote Jenna out. And it also showed them fighting but there was no sound. But this could be a ploy on their part - for what reason I do not know. I am not good at figuring these things out. Just thought I would share what I think for what it's worth. LOL By the way they both look like skeletons with boobs. And lot's of people can be pretty and get degrees - that doesn't make them nice people - and it doesn't give them common sense.

Alaginger

Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Obviously, Chill One's spoiling information was off because Christy didn't make it to F4 (and I'm still fuming over that)........but, let's assume that there is always room for confusion, and maybe some of the information is, in fact, correct. If so, looking at this picture from next week's show when the 3 guys are returning from the RC and viewing the remains of the fire.......which guy at this point in the game would you say had close-cropped hair with a possible part to the side. Makes you stop and think, doesn't it?

Alaginger

Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Forgot the picture.........
guys

Webkitty

Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 09:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe to the local Amazonians Rob's manboods pass as muscular?

Alaginger

Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, Yeah ...... thanks Webkitty. I had forgotten about that!!! Pheewwwww!!! I feel better, now......thanks!

Webkitty

Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL, well, I don't know what will happen next. ChillOnes thread is expoding, those people over there are hysterical they are so mad!

I guess for now, I will go with the theory that CO's intel never saw the F2. That his final 4 meant the final 4 that were voted off before the final 2. This would mean Rob and Heidi are the F2, not Jenna and Matt.
That would also let CO's F2 decriptions off the hook.
Whatever happens, this season has been great. Lots of twists and turns, no Pagonging, surprises (despite the spoilers) ups, downs, villians, victims, the whole nine yards.

I also thought that CO final 4 might be mixup up, but I never thought that they would be someone other than C/B/M/J. I was really starting to think that Christy might be the F2 girl. I was shocked, was anyone else?

Hermione69

Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that it is possible that the F2 were never seen, meaning Butch, Matt, Jenna are next and Heidi and Rob are F2. I also think that the communication between Chill One and his source could be poorer than Chill One wanted to let on and things got jumbled or otherwise misinterpreted. In which case, there is no telling who goes when.

There is a separate spoiler that puts Butch in the F4. That would mean he DOESN'T go next. At Sucks, few people are believing the validity of it.

I also remember reading a spoiler many weeks ago claiming that Butch and Matt are the F2 and it got laughed off the boards, but mainly because of Chill One. I would love to be able to find that one and take another look at it, but I am sure it is gone. Anyone else remember it??

I think most of us were shocked at Christy leaving. No one, but NO ONE saw that coming.

I have to wonder if CBS took some tips from ABC's the Bachelorette. ABC let stuff leak indicating Trista picked Charlie and most people were so suprised when she picked Ryan. Maybe CBS actually took a page out of their book.

Hermione69

Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Alaginger, I agree with-- "Butch with Heidi and Jenna in what appears to be a winner's-type pose. Like Butch might be saying, "Hey look at me. I won a car. Want to go for a quick spin, girls???"" Unless vid caps come out hinting otherwise, I'm leaning for him winning the car. Remember we have a poster right here at TVCH who is from Butch's area and says she saw either Butch or his twin (no,he doesn't really have a twin!) driving a brand new vehicle. I think that post is in the Butch Lockley thread.

Hermione69

Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That post is not in Butch's thread. Probably from earlier in this one, then. I'll have to look later, I'm on my way to my sister's.

Egbok

Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Herm, I recall that post about seeing Butch driving down the highway in a new SUV type of car. The poster lived in the same town or area as Butch and he (the poster) had seen Butch while on his drive home from somewhere (work, school, errand). Sorry, I don't remember which thread but I do recall reading it.

Egbok

Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Found it!

Aus10
Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 02:09 pm
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Had to add my own possible spoiler here.....Yesterday while driving home from work I followed a brand new Dodge 4x4 pickup. I could have SWORN that it was Butch! As you know I live within a few miles of his hometown.....I picking Butch to make it to at least the final two this way. If I'm not mistaken he said if he won any money he'd be buying a new pickup. Now I know that he hasn't got the money yet....but I'd think if he knew the worst he would do is 2nd he'd still buy that pickup.

Wilsonatmd

Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hang on....the last reward challenge is usually for a car, but isn't this go around sponsored by Saturn?

Webkitty

Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The spoiler about Butch being in the final 2 with Matt was posted at Sucks by tropicGuy1 in the speculation thread.

He has been discounted, (that's putting it politely,lol) and, he deleted all his posts. BUT, now that this whole game is blown out of the water, Butch COULD get to F2!

I also saw a thread over there that Butch had put his old car up for sale (I think back in DEc?)

I bet he either wins the car this week, or he gets to F2. Or both. Anything is possible at this point.

Alaginger

Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Regarding Butch winning the car. I wonder if the winner of the car is allowed to have the car before the final night's showing (which is Mother's Day --- a week from tomorrow). A Dodge Pick-Up is definitely not the Reward on Survivor. Of course, he may have sold his old car, is waiting for a new car, and the Dodge Pick-Up is rented......or is to mislead the public (CBS gives him that to drive in the meantime).... or the person quoted didn't really see Butch....or Butch didn't win the vehicle after all. Dad-gum....based on all that, I don't think the person seeing Butch helps us out one bit! Right now, based on the promo pictures...I do think Butch wins the RC, and it is a vehicle.

Alaginger

Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Within the last two days, one or two posters questioned whether the RC for next Thursday was actually for Sunday....the final show, since Jenna didn't show up in any of the pictures. For those people, here is a picture of the start of that race and you can see all 5 survivors, plus JP over to the right-hand side.
run

Alaginger

Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Also, while that picture is right there in front of us, I want to point out that we might need to check on their clothing. According to the promo, when they return to camp there has been a fire and all they have left is what is left on their back. (1) Al 3 in shorts, (2) Heidi in pink top and Jenna in yellow and other pictures show the black straps underneath, so they must have their swimsuits on, (3) Rob in tank-top/muscle shirt, Matt in short-sleeve t-shirt, and Butch in short sleeve button down shirt. This is just to use as a baseline.........okay???
Here's 3 pictures of the fire.
fire1
Fire starts here
fire2
Fire spreads all over
ashes
This is what is left

Alaginger

Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay........I'm going to step out on a limb here and say since the RC is very physical, I think the IC is not physical. I believe these four shots are from the IC. Notice Heidi has the IN around her neck (before handing it back to JP, or after winning it.....I doubt they would show us if she had won it???). Also notice is wearing Heidi's long-sleeved blue shirt, so that must have been saved somehow during the fire.
ic1
ic2
ic3
ic4
Might be that none of these are from the IC, or maybe just Heidi and Jenna are, or whatever. You use the best way you see fit!!!

Aus10

Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hello.....I can't believe anyone remembered my post! I swear, SWEAR, when I saw the guy driving the truck he looked like Butch. I did a double take, no make that a triple take. We were stopped at a stoplight together, then I followed that truck 20 miles headed straight for Olney on US Route 50. If it wasn't Butch he has a twin, (which they say everyone has, god help mine) but I find it odd that his would be so close in proximity to Olney, Illinois. I'm assuming that Butch is in the prize money at a large enough amount now, even if booted next week, that a new truck wouldn't be out of the question, so I'm still convinced it was him.

Alaginger

Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for the update Aus. A lot of us seem to think he may win a vehicle in the reward challenge this coming Thursday........so the question is did he also buy a Dodge truck, or is the Dodge truck just a loaner or a rental??? I bet you really did see Butch ....... we are just trying to see how we can use that to figure out if he wins the reward challenge this week or not.