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Gina8642

Friday, March 07, 2003 - 03:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have to defend gym teachers. I had the best, most fun, most innovative, plain neato gym teacher when I was in elementry school!!! And trust me, I wasn't good in gym. I'm the chosen last for dodge ball girl.

We did all sorts of cool stuff, like pogo sticks, stilts (I'm not a good as Tammy, but pretty good), parachute games, dodge ball, floor hocky, two square, four square, rope climb, cargo net crawl, and on, and on, and on. There was always something for everyone. We never just did stuff only a few kids were good at. We were never made to feel bad if we weren't as good as someone else. I loved gym class.

So there are some truly wonderful gym teachers out there. While I had some lousy ones in middle school, I got lucky again in high school where I had a great teacher for something called 'lifetime sports'. We went through just about any sport you might play in your life and learned basic rules and techniques. Tennis, golf, ping-pong, volleyball, badmitton, archery, etc. Again, it was great fun! Later I took swimming for fitness and had another great instructor who really helped out my stroke technique.

Heidi as a gym teach terrifies me. She demonstrates many qualities I wouldn't want my teenage daughter (if I had one) exposed to.

Heidi is clearly hung up on appearances.
-She thinks and talks about appearances and looks a lot.
-She was dissastisfied with her body enough to get a boob job.
-She judges other people based on their weight.
-She apparently thinks people are 'fat' if they are larger than her or Jenna. (That is really scary).

I would hope a gym teacher could make children feel better about themselves while concentrating on the health benefits of staying fit and staying at a good weight. Not teach them how to turn into anorexics who have to good boob jobs because they've starved themselve until their breats disappear. (I'm not saying Heidi is anorexic - I have no information to judge one way or the other - but if she considers anyone over 110 lbs as fat, she is definately spreading the wrong message.)

Twiggyish

Friday, March 07, 2003 - 04:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good point Gina.

Ginger, I remember gym teachers, too..acck!

Curlyq

Friday, March 07, 2003 - 04:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As one of the people who posted that the cute alliance as well as the entire women's tribe is suffering from an intelligence deficit, I'd like to add that it's a conclusion based on more than one observation.

1. They did vote out a strong person when Probst had not told them about an early merge (at least not that we've seen). In some previous editions the merge took place as they got closer to 10 remaining contestants. Perhaps they got a warning of an early merge we didn't hear, but I can't help but remember Jeff's words last season: "Did I say anything about a merge?" Burnett likes to keep them on their toes. And in any event, given Joanna's personality it would've been easy to get rid of her had she survived the merge.

2. Deena should have realized she would only be 4th place with the Cute Ones. Three girls getting together for a back-scrubbing or toe-picking session should've sent up a huge red flag. She should have used her ample leadership skills to unify the other 3 women.

3. Heidi has stated her strategy that she will let everyone else work hard so she can conserve her strength for the competitions. I can't remember one past contestant who won by being lazy. This strategy is what got Ryan and Daniel booted.

4. If Heidi and Jenna intend to use their bodies to stay in the game, their biggest competition is each other, not Joanna.

5. Both Heidi and Jenna showed up for the game already underweight, and seem to think that this is an advantage.

6. The "cute" girls showed their hand during the reward challenge last week when they were flirting with the guys. The older women should've seen that as foreshadowing.

Gina8642

Friday, March 07, 2003 - 04:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am confused about one thing with this episode.

If Shawna wants to quit, can't she just quit? Why does her tribe have to vote her out? Can't she just jump on the boat belonging to the film crew and demand to be driven back to civilization? Refuse to participate in the competitions? I don't think the production crew can hold her there against her will.

Makes no sense!

Wink

Friday, March 07, 2003 - 04:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gina I believe she'd lose her weekly stipend if she quit rather than be voted off.

Catfat

Friday, March 07, 2003 - 05:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
CurlyQ, you said:
Heidi has stated her strategy that she will let everyone else work hard so she can conserve her strength for the competitions. I can't remember one past contestant who won by being lazy. This strategy is what got Ryan and Daniel booted.

My reply:
I remember Vee as being pretty lazy, at least before the merge. After that we didn't see much of her. Vee, Sean and Boston Rob infuriated Hunter and others on their tribe with their arrogant attitude. Several pictures were shown of them just lying in the sun acting like real jerks. I liked Vee just fine, but was stunned when she won. Maybe she was saving her strengh, too. Anyway, it worked for her, so who can argue with that?

Grooch

Friday, March 07, 2003 - 05:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Did anyone notice that near the end of the show, I think it was Jenna, was having her confessional, and it looked like she had clean, shampooed, blowdried hair and was wearing clean clothes?

I think it was near the end. If someone has a tape can they check it? I want to make sure I'm not crazy.

Curlyq

Friday, March 07, 2003 - 06:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hmm. Vecepia did win one immunity challenge that required strength, so you may be right about that, Catfat. Still I think her win was more about taking excellent notes for that final Q&A challenge, striking a deal at the most crucial time, and being up against someone who the others had an even bigger problem with. Flagrant laziness as strategy is just too risky and foolish in my opinion considering the number of other people who have been voted off these shows for not pulling their weight. There are ways to save your strength without flaunting it.

Hermione69

Friday, March 07, 2003 - 06:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Grooch, I do have a tape and I just checked and I think I found the spot you were talking about and Jenna does look nice, but upon closer inspection, I don't think she had clean hair or clothes. Her hair is down and she has thick hair which may have given a freshly washed impression because it is often up in her buff.

Tntitanfan

Friday, March 07, 2003 - 06:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
When approached about a coalition Deena should have sped back to the other three women and organized them! I think the guys are just dumb enough to keep the eye candy around!

Shawna's weakness was a gift to Christie as I don't think she would have been included in the coalition without it.

Did I understand correctly that those darn fool women still don't have a shelter!?!

Grooch

Friday, March 07, 2003 - 06:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks, Herm!

Catfat

Friday, March 07, 2003 - 06:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
CurlyQ, you are probably right about Vee, I just can't remember that far back. And for sure you are right about the semilovely Heidi, it is very risky to use laziness as a strategy.

Moondance

Friday, March 07, 2003 - 06:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I read over on SS that the clip you are talking about with Jenna is a clip from the first show. Just using it out of Sync for editing purposes.

Grooch

Friday, March 07, 2003 - 07:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Moon! Do you have a link for that? I just found it so odd. I wish I taped the shows.

Moondance

Friday, March 07, 2003 - 07:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't... I know I saw it somewhere over a SS. If I come across it again I will post it but I spent way to much time over there today!

Mygetaway

Friday, March 07, 2003 - 07:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Grooch.. I don't know about that particular scene, but I was thinking they all looked "fresh" at Tribal council..like they had taken baths before they went or something. Also everybodys hair was down this time at TC.

Pamy

Friday, March 07, 2003 - 08:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Remember they won all that personal hygene stuff, so she could have washed her hair

Moondance

Friday, March 07, 2003 - 08:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes and topless too!

Pamy

Friday, March 07, 2003 - 08:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ratings, Moonie, ratings!!

Moondance

Friday, March 07, 2003 - 08:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Numbers, numbers, numbers, breasts, numbers!