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Hermione69

Monday, February 17, 2003 - 12:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I got this from Sux...

Four people voted for Ryan. MB only chose to show Butch doing so. Butch's comment to Ryan ended with "Silence is Golden." There is speculation that this may be a key comment that MB always gives us to show who will win (i.e. Sean's "bet on black" comment in S4). In other words, Christy, because she lives in a silent world.

I'm not buying into it (as much as I want to, LOL!), but I thought it was worth passing along because if it does turn out to be true, we can remember the comment and go, "Ooooooohhhh!"

Alaginger

Monday, February 17, 2003 - 01:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hermione.....thanks for that input on Christy....and also the capture from Sux...

I agree that Christy is probably the one sitting out this time because it dawns on me that nobody knows what the challenge is until they get there. With only that little time to select a caller, the gals would not have time to be made aware that Christy would probably excel in that.

Hippyt

Monday, February 17, 2003 - 05:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with you Hermione,I think Christy would be a good caller,but I also thought of another reason they might not choose her. Since they are trying to keep her keep her being deaf a secret from the men,they might not want to put her in the spotlight that much. Her voice might give her away. And that would be a secret weapon lost.

Webkitty

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 07:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm still not ready to let go of the ChillOne spoiler, and I'm conflicted on who to vote for this week.

I remember reading somewhere that there was a Survivor that got sick, was taken for treatment, and let back in the game. But for the life of me, I can't remember where I read it (and I'm pretty sure I didn't dream it! lol)
This would explain why Janet is not showing up in any vidcaps.

I am also a little leary of TDT coming out right after the first episode, and putting their pick of Janet going this week due to the MTV vidcaps. They had the major scoop last season with the Brian/Clay final two, and I sense a little rivalry there with the ChillOne spoiler.

I spent too much time yesterday trying to sift through the info on other sites, I have company coming from out of state, and I should be cleaning! Ack!

Hermione69

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 08:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Webkitty, there have been rumors of someone getting sick and that may well count for Janet's disappearance from the vidcaps. I, too, would love to see TDT be wrong. There have also been comments made that the media is never allowed beyond episode 2, so how would MTV have vidcaps of episode 3? But then someone else said one of the MTV producers helped with Survivor and that may be how. You are right, it is enough to make your head spin.

I think Chill One's information is going to be generally right but not a perfect yardstick to go by. The whole thing with Jenna being in the final two is a perfect example of that. How can she be the woman who tanned and lost weight and ended up looking the best?? I think that Chill One did not take into account the language barriers enough when he was gathering and then disseminating information, but I think he will be generally correct.

If you remember, the spoilers last season were not 100%, especially in the earlier days of Survivor. They thought they knew who would go, but they didn't quite get the right order. They made better calls later on, but were still thrown for a loop by the Erin boot. There is definitely room for arguments. I haven't made my picks yet this week because, like you, I'm still trying to reach a decision!

BTW, Hippy, that would be a good reason also. And a better one! :)

Alaginger

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 10:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey Webkitty.....I haven't said "Hi" to you this season yet. I've been saving this for you since Survivor V was over!!!

Alaginger

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 10:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
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Webkitty

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 11:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Awwww, thanks Alaginger!

I think I am going to pop a tape in the old vcr upstairs and just run it on CBS to see if I can catch some new commercials for Survivor, so I can study them for myself. (this would be while I'm cleaning for company *cough*)

For some reason, I am just not buying that MTV had vidcaps of episode 3. I can't see EMB letting out this much info, he has got to know the spoiling community would pick it apart.
I can't remember if previous seasons we got info this far ahead, anyone know?

I haven't been over to Sucks today yet, but as of yesterday, ChillOne was still hanging in there, responding to critisizm, and maintaining that he was not a hoax.
One thing that is sticking with me is that he seems sure that Joanna goes third. He specifically said his intel told him an a/a woman, and that she was the first woman voted off. He must have been pretty sure of his source's knowledge to put that out there. But, there was nothing in the first episode to make me think she would be the first woman voted off. I can't decide if this little bit of info makes me believe him more, or less.
He seemed sure the women win the first two challenges, and he was adamant that his intel meant the first two IC, not an IC and a RC.
The thing is, if Janet goes this week, and not a man, then I am going to be forced to dismiss him entirely, all the way down the line.

Grannyg

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 02:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm with Herm, I still trying to decide who is staying and who is going. I've read Chill one's stuff but still not so sure he has everything down right.

Hippyt

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 02:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Who is this ChillOne,and where did he come from that anyone should give him any credibility? I'll stick with Snewser!

Hermione69

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 02:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hippyt, he is a tourist who visited the area and spoke with locals right after S6 filming ended. He has pictures to prove he was there and he knew a lot of information about the contestants BEFORE it was officially released.

Wenkitty, the title of episode 3 is Girl Power. This is the epiosde where Joanna is supposed to be voted out according to CO, The title suggests it would be a man, doesn't it? However, would MB be that obvious, in other words, doesn't it kinda make you think it will be a woman? LOL! It is so easy to overanalyze. They keep throwing out the Occam's Razor theory also-- that the easiest and simplest answer is usually the right one; i.e. Janet is missing from pictures, therefore she is the next one gone. I am, unfortunately, leaning towards her being my pick unless new vidcaps come out tonight from CBS that give another argument.

Hippyt

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 05:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I went and read all his stuff. Interesting,but I don't know. Here's what I'm thinking,looking at those women standing around soaked to the skin makes me think they're going to be a mess,mentally and phycially. And,what is this granola bar stuff,so they're not trusting each other either.And,the photo with Janet missing.So,I'm sticking with my theory that his week (2) it will be Janet's turn to take that long walk to loser lodge.I mean for pete's sake,the woman was whining after TWO days!My Granma could make it two days!

Car54

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 05:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Um....go read Antithesys thread over at SS... I think Janet is on her way home...that's one for our side. I have read all 87 pages and I still think Janet has to go.

I am with you Hippyt.

Now you can still cut CO some slack if the women win an RC...then technically they win the first two challenges...but he picked Daniel to go and if Janet goes...that is major OFF!

Janet goes

Hermione69

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 06:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for the link, Car. I am climbing on board, reluctantly, but climbing!

Webkitty, sorry I misspelled your name earlier. "Wenkitty" LOL!

Car54

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 03:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Don't worry Hermione, I am expecting something to happen to make me change my mind....happens almost every Wednesday!

Alaginger

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 05:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I still think, based on all the information we have, that Janet goes this week. I'm also holding onto the thought that Daniel could be next week, because Janet may have been so sick that they had to rush her off somewhere and the locals didn't really see her hanging around Loser Lodge. If Daniel is the next one and he and Ryan are the visuals to the locals, the locals would think that the two guys were first. This would still fall into what "Chill" was told ...

Webkitty

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 07:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Car, thanks for that link above!
When I saw the vidcap of the guys in the boat fishing, it didn't look to me like they were participating in a challenge. I taped the commercial it came from, and reviewed it, and now I am certain it is not from a challenge. (I am going on record with this statement, lol)
Anti's whole premise for saying Janet goes this week was based on that vidcap being a challenge.
However, I am starting to lean toward Janet going this week anyway.

My reasoning is: it looks like the women win at least one challenge this week from Christy's reaction in the commercial. I can't see CBS/EMB giving away the IC winner, so it has to be the RC.
Do they manage to win BOTH the RC and the IC?
It seems unlikely since they get drenched and have a conflict about the granola. (and supposedly Janet is still sick, although she seemed to recover at the end of episode 1)

I am thinking that Dave's speech last week spured all the guys to go out and really try to catch some fish, this is the shot of them in the boat. Just fishing, not the IC. (or the RC, that is the blindfold one)

So, for me, it comes down to, can the women win two challenges this week? RC AND IC?
I am hoping to catch a new commercial today, maybe it will give me the clue to finally make up my mind!
~Wenkitty~ (lol Herm)

Hermione69

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 08:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Webkitty/Wenktty/Wetkitty, etc...., you are awesome!

Remember last season and the SUV challenge? You were so right on the money about that one in your analysis of the vid cap!!

I think I may have to pick Daniel based on your belief that they are just fishing and my hopes that the women win IC again... Boy, am I indecisive this week, or what? LOL!

Webkitty

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 08:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Herm Sometimes I just have to go with my gut. As a matter of fact, there is a thread over a SS called Brain, Heart, Gut. I like it. Its a thread where posters can go and lay out in an easy to follow formula, what they think about the next boot.

My "Brain" is saying Janet goes this week. (she is missing from any vidcaps) My "Heart" is saying the same thing, I want her to go.
My "Gut" is telling me it isn't her, that Daniel goes this week.

Vidcap evidence is usually pretty reliable, and I trust it, but not always.
That SUV vidcap last year is an example. I just KNEW it was before the challenge. It didn't make any sense to me that it would be after, for various reasons, that I won't rehash now.
But, Ted DID win the SUV, so it didn't matter that the vidcap was before or after. (just that I was the only one saying it was before, and I was right)
This is what I am thinking with the Janet delema.
I am sure that vidcap of the guys in the boat is not from a challenge, but that doesn't automactically mean that Janet doesn't go this week.....ack!

Squaredsc

Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 12:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
true dork times also has janet being voted off. here is the link:

true dork times

click on the s6 boot thingy on the right hand side, mid page.

Webkitty

Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 01:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yep, I went with Janet off this week, too.

It looks like ChillOne didn't get the info right, or he was given the wrong info. I think he is probably just a geeky dork that went down there and wasn't savvy enough to realize that the info he got was too easy to come by.
I wouldn't put it past EMB to pay off (somehow) the locals to give out mis-leading information when strangers (especially Americans) come snooping around.
I can see EMB telling them to give out the true info on Chritsy, to make the rest of it seem believable. It wouldn't spoil the show in any way to leak this out before it starts. (that there was a deaf player)
I was hoping he would be right, because I wanted to see Christy go far, but she could actually even go further than the F4 position he was saying, so I'm over the disapointment

(if Daniel goes tonight I am going to be picking my jaw off the floor, lol)

Alaginger

Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 01:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Webkitty......if Daniel goes tonight, I'll come over and help you pick your jaw up off the floor.......that's after I get mine up off the floor first!!!

Webkitty

Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 01:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You know, ChillOne has officially picked Daniel off tonight over at SS? He's determined to stick by his "intel" gotta hand to the guy!

Car54

Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 01:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think pretty much all the major boards are picking Janet...and the polls where the general non-internet public vote are all picking Daniel.

Now I want Daniel to go really bad. (Just saying that because Bat isn't here.)

Hermione69

Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 07:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
TDT is already tentatively picking Joanna to go next, and they seem to think the next woman after that may be Shawna for reasons that obviously have not come out yet and may change.


http://www.truedorktimes.com/s6/spoilers/ep3.htm