**Tonights Show 02/20/02**
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Pamy | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 04:03 pm     Car, looks like you, Moonie and I are all pms-ing at the same time! The say when women work together their cycles will change and all will eventually be on same cycle(which has been true for me, whenever I change sections, my cycle changes) so I wonder if woman that post together will have their cycles change.. |
Emt911 | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 04:22 pm     Queen, yep there have been some ideas tossed around even before the episode aired last night. I think there's a good chance that production threw the granola-wrench into the works to stir the pot. I think they should have just eaten it and thanked the Immunity Idol for it. Joanna would have freaked! The reason I think it's possible that production may be in on it is because none of the camera people caught on film 'a sneaking woman going to the crate and opening it and throwing a granola bar inside'. Or the camera person who should have been filming was the same one who missed the Ghandia Grind in full, so we will never know the extent of who did what then! |
Moondance | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 04:25 pm     I think you're on to something Pamy ... maybe Adven's next research study. Hmmmmmmm |
Pamy | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 06:18 pm     LOL, that would be an interesting study! ADVEN?? |
Rslover | Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 10:27 am     Rooting for Jeanne. IMHO Jeanne is not an institgator. Won't rule her out yet until I see more evidence. What if she really did see Janet with the granola bar? Of all the people there, I would think Janet would be the most likely one to smuggle in contraband. She is older and was feeling sick. And, didn't Jeanne tell Christy what happened with Joanne because she wanted to know what they were talking about all night? |
Hermione69 | Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 10:34 am     I haven't written Jeanne off yet either, and Christy did ask what they talked about at night and that was a pretty important thing to share. We'll see how it goes. I just can't picture her as a deliberate weasel, but stranger things have happened. |
Hunter | Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 01:59 pm     Square..I respectfully disagree with the idea that the producers intentionally select black or white contestants based on some stereotype. I really don't see,together,intelligent, successful blacks or whites putting their lives on hold...jeoprodizing careers, marriages, relationships or their reputations, so they can live in filth, starve, eat fowl things and play mundane games on the chance that they might win some money. I think, generally, people are chosen on the basis of looks...personality...ego. The show attracts an odd lot. |
Hunter | Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 02:24 pm     Queenofnorway The only danger or threat that Christy poses to her fellow contestants is the way it reveals the character of these women. The physical threat they are exposed to is minimal considering that there is a support staff of over 300 people in the general location including medical personel, a security force surrounding the perimeter of the shooting location, cameramen monitoring their every move 24/7. Christy has already demonstated her courage in coming on the show. If anyone is in danger...she is. The resentment and indifference and inability to see her as a person relects on..them. How inconsiderate of her to ask people to look her in the face when they talk to her. Next thing you know she'll be asking them to treat her like a normal human being with...feelings |
Car54 | Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 02:36 pm     Dang, I sure hope she IS a troublemaker. I LOVE the troublemakers. If she isn't that leaves us with the boobie alliance. I want a little trouble! Comeon! I hope Joanna goes nuts over the Idol again too. How many times have we seen the Kimi/Alicia finger waggin scene? Joanna and Christy and talk to the hand are gonna go down in Survivor history |
Lanzee | Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 04:36 pm     It was unbelievable for me to watch the show last thursday night. I was disappointed in these women!! No organization or no shelter! I wish that they had to be a teamwork in order to make a shelter and find food together to survive no matter who they are and they can always have their game plan after the shelter set up. I hope to see them set it up next show. For Joanna/Christy thing, I wish that Joanna didn't start to talk about the ridiculous thing, immunity idol during the night. She should not afraid of it if she is a true christian. Obviously, she was afraid of it and stir the trouble to bother the women by constantly talking about that thing all night!! I could be happy that I don't have to hear it since I am deaf!! Whew!! LOL!! Anyway, Christy did ask Jeanne for what Joanna or other women said during the night. That's natural for deaf people like her asking, curious and want to know what they were saying. I wish she didn't ask her and just be quiet.. u know.. and it can prevent to create the problems. Or Jeanne should not tell Christy about that silly thing. But at the same time, she needs to know anyway. Well, Jeanne ( I hate too many J's!! It drove me nuts!) told Christy what she heard. I have to remind you that she didn't tell her the whole thing like every word or a transcript, just a brief information. So, she got that limited info from Jeanne only. I know that Christy knew that she missed every word for what Joanna said on that night and she relies on Jeanne to give her the information. I believe that Jeanne is sorta hiding being a trouble maker. So, I guess that Joanna' ear picked up and heard about them. She started upset and confronted the wrong person, Christy about it. Joanna should straight to talk with Jeanne instead Christy. If Joanna heard them then she should ignore it and leave but she was angry with her and dog her out!! Boy! I can't believe how rude Joanna did to Christy by putting her hand in her face. That is a physical threat. I experienced that before and it's wrong!! Christy has a right to say that the fear of immunity idol was stupid. No big deal. That's her own opinion and her real feelings. I agreed with Hermione about deaf people being obviously blunt and open. That's very normal for deaf people to say very open. That is a deaf culture!! They are so used to it but for hearing people, they don't ever do that and had to hide it and lock their lips!! Or tell a lie thru their teeth. I am living in a hearing world so why not they should be living in a deaf world and take a taste!! So, Jeanne didn't help them much and she just stand and enjoy watching them. She said nothing!! Sheesh!! I think she needs to go and Joanna, too!! About the shelter thing, Christy was so right that the shelter should set up in ages ago! She wanted to help and etc but mostly women ignored her and pretended that she's an invisible person. Even though she felt that she's excluded, and helpless, too. The key problem is no teamwork, no communication or no plan!!! Very poor!! Still, Christy was trying work hard to win her victory that she can prove to do anything with them. But the women didn't want to believe and deal with her. How sad! They really missed a great amazing thing with her. Oh well!! They choose that way and that's their problem. That's why many people today don't know much about deaf and didn't know how to deal with the deaf people. It's good for them to see her being on Survivor show. I would like to share with you something that there are two hearing people who are learning sign language and I met them at a deaf coffee night. I told and invited them for a silent dinner for one night. It means we go out to eat at the restaurant. The rules was no voice, use sign language only and pretend that they were deaf. It was fun for them to feel what a deaf person looks like. They locked their hearing voice and use sign language for the whole dinner!! They loved it!! It did help them to understand better about deaf world. Other funny thing is that the waitress thought they were deaf but really they were hearing!! LOL!!! Go, Christy, go!! Be strong and focus! I was dreaming that one guy of these men knows sign language and can link with Christy!!! I hope to see it happen!!! It would be nice to see her to bond with other women, too. Just wait and see!! U rock! Lanzee \lm/ |
Catfat | Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 06:42 pm     Although I am hearing, I have a good friend who is deaf. We communicate with a combination of lip reading, signing, or writing things out. One day we were in a coffee shop conversing and the owner was going about his busines and we just chatted away for half an hour or so. Pretty soon I stood up and walked over to the counter to ask him something, speaking in normal tones, and his jaw dropped and he took a couple of steps backward and stammered "When did YOU learn to hear?" I think he had been talking about us and didn't know I could hear! He was so pathetic, I had to laugh at him, even though it wasn't very polite. |
Squaredsc | Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 07:12 pm     oh no hunter is back, lol. sorry hunter, just joking about your name, i couldn't stand hunter from marquesas. anyhoo, i also respectfully disagree with you. i do think the producers or casting directors are looking to cast certain parts based on the previous survivors. the nice girl like elizabeth and the girl from the 1st one i can't think of her name. the roger part from australia, the beauty, and the b*tch. we are seeing the same characters over and over. |
Hunter | Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 08:45 pm     Square Smiling broadly...I've never been to the Marquesas I've been to Cleveland a fews times..guess that qualifies me as an expert on...nothing. Hopefully you will be able to stand me . Even though I disagree with you on this point, I am not a disagreeable fella...still smiling I think that some of same personality types continue to be chosen because that is the type of person who fairs well on the show...independant...sassy...conniving...shallow...self absorbed. They are people like Janet, a self described person going through a mid life crisis. People looking for meaning in their otherwise dull lives. People seeking fame...fortune..respect. Many of the white people have been more aggresive that the blacks, nearly coming to blows. Several of the white men ..especially the last bunch were lazy. Others depicted as...gay...homophobic...red necks..racist. As I said before. They are an odd lot of people whose actions and motivations are subject to interpretation by...us. That's the fun of this chatroom. I have too much respect for black people to say that they fit into any...mold. That would be called...profiling. Friendly smile |
Grooch | Monday, February 24, 2003 - 09:43 am     Rslover, I agree with you about Jeanne. |
Wink | Monday, February 24, 2003 - 10:42 am     Jeanne needs to be watched very closely. That hat is the tipoff. |
Car54 | Monday, February 24, 2003 - 10:50 am     Great Post Lanzee! I am really enjoying your commentary on the show. You are right on target! |
Fruitbat | Monday, February 24, 2003 - 11:25 am     It was Janet, Christy and Joanna in that scene where Joanna wagged her finger btw. I sit amazed at the lack of leadership and all the diary talks to the camera with complaints that no one is doing or organizing anything. I find it hard to believe that there is a leader hiding amoungst themselves and holding back. I don't think a take charge person could contain themselves this long. I know I couldn't. Thanks for the insight into the deaf world Lanzee and Herm. Makes sense. Having more understanding I still am not in Christy's corner 100%. She would better serve herself by taking charge of the shelter, using her blunt manner to direct and organize, maybe even explain this aspect of the deaf world and joke about how this can work for them to get some shelter. She is at a disadvantage, she knows this and must find a way to make it work for her. So far she is not garnering favor. |
Fruitbat | Monday, February 24, 2003 - 11:41 am     The male team interests me more at this point. Rob playing both sides straight out of the gate with such confidence was fun to watch. Roger put a target on his own back with his bossing and homophobic rant. I definately expect to see him go at their next opportunity. |
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