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Car54

Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 07:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Posted by Scott over at SS- the source of most of the episode titles:

Episode titles so far:
Ep1, Feb 13: Boys vs Girls (tvguide.com)
Ep1, Feb 13: Snakes in the Grass (TV Guide close-up. print version)
Ep2, Feb 20: Storms
Ep3, Feb 27: Girl Power

The full listing for this episode will be:
Survivor: The Amazon
Girl Power
60 min.
A third player is voted out. Jeff Probst is the host.

Mygetaway

Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 11:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
From CBS:

ON THE NEXT SURVIVOR:
When the women's tribe decides they need a leader, Deena is elected, but some hope she will destroy herself.

The Reward Challenge becomes an opportunity for the male and female tribes to interact, leading the men to speculate about which women they may have a chance with.

Heidi, Shawna and Jenna bathe topless and promise they'll do the same in front of the men, if necessary, to secure their votes in the future.

A battle between young and old emerges in one of the tribes, leading to a critical decision for one Survivor caught in the middle.

Squaredsc

Friday, February 21, 2003 - 06:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
well i guess the women have to use what they got to get what they want. i wonder if the old/young battle is in the mens tribe.

Kaili

Friday, February 21, 2003 - 07:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I was thinking it would be (the men's tribe) but wouldn't the older group be way outnumbered? It seemed their grouping was a lot more personality based. I would guess it would be Rob who would be the one in the middle though.

If it is the women, it still seems slanted cause the young again outnumber the "older"- (none of them on this show are old!). Not sure how old Joanna is but she looks maybe a bit older than the "pretty girls"- at least closer to 30 than they are. Not sure of Christy's age either but I see her as the more likey one to be causght in the middle.

Oh yeah, and put your shirts back on girls! I liked Shawna- I'm disappointed in her. If Joanna got mad at Christy for her comment last night and dislikes the idol worship so much, I would love to see her reaction to that! Maybe that's why she isn't expected to last...

Grooch

Friday, February 21, 2003 - 07:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I heard Jeff on a radio interview this morning. He said that nothing spectatular happens on this episode, but make sure to watch it because it is one of the most entertaining episodes that they ever did.

Kaili

Friday, February 21, 2003 - 07:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Why? Cause there's half naked girls on it? Sheesh! I think their interaction will be pretty entertaining actually- the guys just stand there and drool at the girls. I noticed that last night when they all got to the award challenge the guys (rob in particular) were gawking at them. LOL

I can't wait to see the guys puff out their chests and try to act all cool. This must mean Christy's secret won't last long, eh?

Webkitty

Friday, February 21, 2003 - 07:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
*When the women's tribe decides they need a leader, Deena is elected, but some hope she will destroy herself.
I think the "some" in this statement is the guys. It looks like at the "mixer" RC, Deena is laughing and having a good time. The guys see that the girls are starting to get it together by electing a leader who is liked, and feel threatened.

*The Reward Challenge becomes an opportunity for the male and female tribes to interact, leading the men to speculate about which women they may have a chance with.
The three horndogs, Rob/Alex/Dave, have already commented on Shawna/Heidi/Jenna. I think this will continue. Daniel seems to have lost his voice after losing the first IC for the men.

*Heidi, Shawna and Jenna bathe topless and promise they'll do the same in front of the men, if necessary, to secure their votes in the future.
They do, and they will, and it will work with the men.

*A battle between young and old emerges in one of the tribes, leading to a critical decision for one Survivor caught in the middle.
I think this will be: H/S/J aginst D/J/J and Christy will have to cast the deciding vote on who goes. She will side with the young, (H/S/J) and this is what turns it around for her.

Mygetaway

Friday, February 21, 2003 - 11:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Good surmising there Kitty..

Alaginger

Friday, February 21, 2003 - 11:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey Webkitty!!! That was really a good read and I think you are right on. Right after reading your entry, I was over at TDT and clipped this little part out of their write-up, because it seems to back up your last premis exactly!
"Christy made herself a target in Ep2, by calling her entire tribe lazy right before tribal council. She has no visible alliance (except a weak one with Jeanne), and could be caught in a fight between the younger and older women.....
likely, she will pick a side in this episode, and determine the dominant alliance."

Squaredsc

Friday, February 21, 2003 - 12:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
good job ms. kitty. i think you have something there.

Cablejockey

Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 10:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Heidi, Shawna, and Jenna sound like they have it all figured out--they probably would have survived the original Surviour.{prehistoric days}

Gidget

Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 03:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have a strong feeling that we are going to see a much earlier merge than usual.

The women are not doing a good job of "camping". None of them show any real survival skills like some of the women we saw on past shows.

And there is no canoodling. Naked bathing is surely good for ratings but the possibility of hooking up is much more entertaining.

Hippyt

Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 05:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think you're right Gidget. And,MB has already stated that an all male team to the end would be a disaster for ratings. And we all know he isn't going to let that happen!

Hermione69

Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 10:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
•When the women's tribe decides they need a leader, Deena is elected, but some hope she will destroy herself.

This is going to end up meaning nothing because MB never gives anything away that easily. She probably just ruffles some feathers and then they get over it.

•The Reward Challenge becomes an opportunity for the male and female tribes to interact, leading the men to speculate about which women they may have a chance with.

Of course! The flirting between the tribes has been played up for ages.

•Heidi, Shawna and Jenna bathe topless and promise they'll do the same in front of the men, if necessary, to secure their votes in the future.

I don't think this is anything except an opportunity to titillate viewers and get more people to watch. I also don't doubt that they will use their sex appeal to their advantage when the tribes merge.

•A battle between young and old emerges in one of the tribes, leading to a critical decision for one Survivor caught in the middle.

This is the most interesting one, IMHO. At first glance, it seems obvious it would be Christy because the women's tribe splits down the middle by age more easily than the men's tribe. The main thing that argues against this theory is that Deena appears to be aligned with Shawna, Jenna and Heidi, in which case there is no critical decision, they are a dominant alliance and can vote off any of the other 3 that they want.

It's possible that Deena is offended by the booby alliance and breaks away from the group. Deena works with sexually abused children in her job and may have different perceptions of what is acceptable and what isn't because of that. She may problem with the women using their sexuality in such a manner as Shawna, Jenna and Heidi plan to.

There is also the possibility that this decision may intimidate the older women in the tribe maybe because they don't feel like they have that "weapon" to use to their advantage or because they see it as leaving them out, so they band together after this happens.

And Christy is the swing vote.

I've been reading at Sux and Blows and there are a fair number of people who believe this applies to the men. For one thing, someone pointed out that if the old/young thing is the women, then every single piece of information released involves the women except the RC info which involves both. Wouldn't MB release something that just has to do with the men?

Someone else pointed out that it does not say anything about the tribe being split down the middle by the age thing. That is the conclusion most of us are leaning towards because of the logistics of it being a 3-3 split with a swing vote at TC. But it may not even apply to the TC! It may just be setting up, or continuing, a story. This could very well be someone like Alex who voted with Butch and Roger in Ep. 1 and who possibly finds himself feeling alienated from them, especially after the homosexuality conversation with Roger. This adds weight to the story that was set up by Rob in Ep. 2 that he is trying to get a group to vote out Roger.

Right now I'm leaning towards it having to do with the men. Otherwise it just puts too much emphasis on the women for the entire episode. MB likes to try to create SOME suspense as to who is going to TC.

Alaginger

Monday, February 24, 2003 - 05:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Picked this up this morning from another website. It gives a little different slant on the promo. This clears things up a little bit, but not much!!!

"Girl Power" - The women elect a team leader who has no desire to be put in that position, on SURVIVOR: THE AMAZON, Thursday, Feb. 27 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

In an effort to be better organized, the women delegate the one person who does not want to be the leader, while simultaneously putting off the one who does. The reward challenge becomes an opportunity for the men and women to interact and the guys subsequently admit to their crushes. Back at the women's camp, certain members have no qualms about bathing topless and promise they'll do the same in front of the men to help secure their position in the future. And, one person is caught in the middle of a battle between the young and the old.

And the third person is voted out of the tribe.

Webkitty

Monday, February 24, 2003 - 11:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have a request/suggestion/plea....is there anyone here who has the capibility and inclination to post a vidcap of this weeks RC? (the one where they are all looking in those boxes and Rob has his hand over his mouth, like, omg!!)
It looks to me like there are clothes in the boxes, and I'm trying to figure out what the challenge could be. Anyone? pleeese

Moondance

Monday, February 24, 2003 - 12:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
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Kaili

Monday, February 24, 2003 - 12:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I can try... hopefully this will work. I seem to have been having problems posting pictures lately...

group Alex

Kaili

Monday, February 24, 2003 - 12:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Notice the box tops are colored according to tribe buff color. Obviously what is in the box is specific to each tribe. I wonder if they are doing a super early tribbe mix up. Each person is told to go to a box with their tribe's color and maybe inside the boxes are new buffs. Whatever it is looks red so I wonder if maybe some boxes have new buffs and if you get one you become the member of a new (third) tribe? Or maybe it's how they are doing the switch?

There are 14 people now- not a good number to divide in 3. Maybe the locked box we saw in episode one comes into play here?

Webkitty

Monday, February 24, 2003 - 02:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Kaili!

Whatever is in the boxes looks like some sort of red cloth, and it doesn't look like buffs to me.

Everyone looks very pleased and a little naughty.
Almost as if they are playing strip poker or something (not that I ever did or anything,lol)

What is in the boxes that is causing this reaction? I usually have a wild imagination and come up with something, but I'm drawing a blank here..... its too early to merge or switch, there is nothing in the CBS clues for this week that would indicate this.

What the heck is it?

Tabbyking

Monday, February 24, 2003 - 02:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
maybe whatever it it pairs a guy with a gal for a dance or for the day, or something. see how shawna appears to have her thumb pointing as if to say, "him?!" and the guys look all excited? just kidding, but that would be something.

Kaili

Monday, February 24, 2003 - 02:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe it is little bags of food or something like that- the cloth may just be lining for whatever actually is in the boxes even. This is a tough one...

If you look closely at the boxes it looks like the boxes themselves have a cloth lining (it is on the lids of the boxes)- maybe the hinges of the boxes also have the lining so the edges of it pull up when the box is opened (if that makes any sense at all). If that is the case, that is all we are looking at- not even the actual contents but actually a part of the box. So there could be a lining, and whatever is in the box is beyond our vision. Just a thought before I go to work...

Kaili

Monday, February 24, 2003 - 02:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good point tabbyking- the young guys are all laughing like it's a funny thing and Jenna looks like she feels bad for her or has sort of that "oooh...that sucks" look on her face. haha- this one should be fun to watch. I can see it being the getting to know you episode with pairs.

I wonder if they are going to do the non-merge merge again this year cause they did have the mixer thing a bit before that happened right?

Misspoufy

Monday, February 24, 2003 - 02:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My take on the pics is whatever is in the boxes is a thrill to the guys but the gals don't look all that thrilled.

Webkitty

Monday, February 24, 2003 - 02:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I noticed that too, it looks like the guys are teasing Jenna. It looks like they are having a reaction to what is in Butch's box, and it somehow effects Jenna.