Archive through February 14, 2003
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Archive through February 14, 2003
Lancecrossfire | Friday, February 14, 2003 - 09:44 am     Agreed Grooch--and I also believe he's going for the conflict between genders with his editing, because he believes it will draw people and keep their interest via the gender battle. It's something a lot of folks seem to be able to get into--lol. |
Max | Friday, February 14, 2003 - 09:46 am     On the Early show this morning, they said that the immunity challenge balance beam incident lasted 20 minutes! Geez. If the men didn't deserve to lose because of their cocky attitudes, they certainly deserved it after spending that long to cross a silly piece of wood without falling! |
Grooch | Friday, February 14, 2003 - 09:46 am     I think that with Christy's hearing disabilty, people will underestimate her and she will fly under the radar and then it will be to late to get her out of there. She will also be insulated from all the drama and gossip all players do. She will not become involved in it, so she won't be subjected to all the mind games and paranoia that all players say they put themselves through. She will hopefully be able to keep a clearer head than the others and navigate through all the lies that everyone tells each other. Plus, she can read lips and I am sure she must be very good at reading body language. |
Becca | Friday, February 14, 2003 - 09:55 am     I think that it is possible that if her tribe acceptes her, she could far. However, to be honest, if I was in the final four with her, I would take her out immedaitely, she would not be someone that I would want to face in the final 2. Why? Becaus if I were on the jury, I'd probably vote for her to win, because she did have such a huge obstacle to overcome, plus she seems to be extremely smart. Thus, I have a feeling if anyone has any brains, they aren't going to want to face her in the final 2. If she gets there she wins. |
Hermione69 | Friday, February 14, 2003 - 10:08 am     "Did Christy not realize that it would be dark and she would not be able to communicate? Did she not realize that these people were competing against her and not there to help her or make things easier for her?" She knew all of these things and if you notice, she never asked for special treatment or even implied that she should get it. Her comments were during confessionals during an obvious adjustment period where was not sure how she was going to be part of the group. She is obviously determined not to get special treatment for her diability and that wows me. |
Alaginger | Friday, February 14, 2003 - 10:16 am     I also think that Christy and the girl team will mesh more. Even though the relationship we saw sucked right off the bat, I'm wondering if the other girls thought maybe Christy wanted to do it on her own. Also, they might have felt their own position would be in jeopardy if they were viewed as the "Miss Goody Two-Shoes" of the group. However, Christy kicked some serious butt during the challenge and the other gals saw that and from here on out, I would be surprised if they underestimate her again. GO CHRISTY!!! |
Jeep | Friday, February 14, 2003 - 10:18 am     I guess I'm in the minority.....hubby and I just LOVED last night's show. I think's it's great that they are in all male/female tribes. It was so great to hear the men talk all macho (like me Tarzan, you Jane) and thinking they would win everything and knowing (from the spoilers) that they were in for a rude awakening. It was priceless. And that Jeff Probst! He loved rubbing it in at tribal council that the men lost to the women and egged them on about the "hot" women. He led them right down the path of "foot in mouth". Jeff looked like he really enjoyed this tribal council. It was also hillarious to watch the women fumble around trying to light a fire and cut trees down. Hubby and I just couldn't believe they didn't have a clue. These two tribes fell right into the sterotypes of macho men and helpless women, even though most people abhor sterotyping. Of course, some if it could be in the editing. Overall we just found it to be a very entertaining episode and can't wait for next week. I think the people that are chosen to be on this show are picked for an interesting personality or eye candy or both and not on their survivor skills. So, it doesn't suprise me when the women can't build a hut in one night and the men are all macho in the first days. If they did everything perfectly, what would we talk about??? |
Hermione69 | Friday, February 14, 2003 - 10:22 am     Jeep, I loved last night's show as well. I think it is a good mix of people. I think the division by sexes is interesting, (I laughed at those who were hoping to use their sex appeal to their advantage.) I thought it was entertaining as anything and I am looking forward to the season. |
Kittee3 | Friday, February 14, 2003 - 10:24 am     Just wanted to chime in that a perfect reward challenge (in a similar vein to when they let the winners go to the opponents camp and take what they can loot in 3 minutes) would be to let the winners of either looting the other tribes camp or electing to switch camps .... I'd love to see the look on the guys faces :D |
Grooch | Friday, February 14, 2003 - 10:37 am     I think Christy did great too. I love the fact that the girls are going to keep it a secret from the men. And if they are smart, they won't spill the beans. She can lip read what they are planning to do. I agree with Herm about her adjusting. I work for a company that Spanish is the main language that is spoken and I don't speak it. There are many times where I am left out of the loop because of this. I can understand some things (when it is important. Amazing how the brain knows when to start listening.) and everyone forgets that I know a little and they are shocked when I tell them what they were saying. The same thing will happen with Christy. They will be comfortable around her and forget to keep their guard up and say things in front of her they they wouldn't want her to know, and then when they come to her with lies, she will know it. I can't wait for when she nails them with something. She has the potential to start a lot of fireworks. Oh, I hope she has a devious mind too, ala Richard Hatch, or Brian Used Car Salesman. It would be so much fun to watch! |
Car54 | Friday, February 14, 2003 - 10:52 am     If you read Jeff's interviews and chat...the producers were very concerned that Christy would have a hard time and she told them she knew it would not be fair...but that nothing in her life was fair where this is concerned and she still wanted to do it. I would be interested in how someone who did not know Christy was deaf before the show perceived things. I felt like they really hilighted the fact...and to me it is how they set up things...to make you think she is isolated or unhappy.... so you are concerned that she will get booted...and then she does great. I think there may have been some of that going on. The rumors are that Christy did just wonderful...so I think this is some of MB's storytelling. |
Hermione69 | Friday, February 14, 2003 - 11:03 am     |
Sisalou | Friday, February 14, 2003 - 11:59 am     I loved the show too. I think Christy will do just fine and she is one of my favorites. |
Pamy | Friday, February 14, 2003 - 12:04 pm     I lOVED Christy, I hopes she wins! I was teary eyed when she was telling how hard it is for her(also note she did NOT tell this to the other girls only to the camera, she is not a winer!) She did great in the challenge and with all those complicated rules I was impressed that she seemed to know exactly what to do next. Hermie..I couldn't help but think of you and how things I take for granted are harder for you.XOXOXO to you! Heidi also surprised me, I thought she would be the eye candy but she appears to be a great competitor, although I didn't like some of the things she said about Christy. Jenna...hate her!!! Daniel should go next, he is irritating! |
Kaili | Friday, February 14, 2003 - 12:04 pm     I have a ? about the show- did anyone notice, or did they even say...did the women get a locked box like the men did in their supply box? |
Kaili | Friday, February 14, 2003 - 12:09 pm     I agree Pamy- I assumed Heidi would be a bit more compassionate toward Christy and make more of an effort with her since she's a teacher- I assume she works with kids that have various disabilities and I expected more from her based on that. Then again, all we heard her say really was that they hadn't bonded with her because of the communication problems. That's not really a mean statement- it could have just been an observation on her part (and consider the question/s she may have been asked to probe her to comment for the camera). There are so many hours of their days we don't see, it's hard to tell what's really going on- especially in the first episode. |
Micknrc | Friday, February 14, 2003 - 12:11 pm     good question. I taped it, so I'll watch again this weekend and see what I can find. DH and darling daughter are always talking throughout the show and making me miss stuff. It's a good thing I love'em so much.... |
Pamy | Friday, February 14, 2003 - 12:31 pm     Mick, I have same problem with my 7 yr old! But it is so fun to watch with him. He didn't make it thru the 90 min show though. This morning he said who did WE vote off last night? HAHA |
Csnog | Friday, February 14, 2003 - 01:46 pm     There is a misconception that piranhas will attack for any reason. I saw many locals standing and washing in the river. Piranha's are atracted by blood. We fished for them with raw beef. |
Hermione69 | Friday, February 14, 2003 - 01:52 pm     Csnog, so you have been there? That is really cool. |
Hermione69 | Friday, February 14, 2003 - 01:53 pm     Where is Lanzee??? |
Misspoufy | Friday, February 14, 2003 - 03:10 pm     First time posting here, although I've been reading the boards for over a year..I'm a lurker at heart, but thought this time I might jump in and share my thoughts. I must say I was totally ashamed of the women. No shelter, took them five hours to use a provided flint to make a fire, they aren't using their brains. The worse thing was WASTING their drinking water to wash their buffs!?!?!?! They were more concerned about having clean headgear than getting out of the bugs at night and building a shelter? Not me, that'd be my second priority, fire would be my first. But the thing I'm the most ashamed of them for is ignoring Christy. Instead of befriending her and trying to bridge the communication gap they've shunned her, ignored her, and made her feel completely left out. They're three days in and they still don't have a shelter, and no leadership. They need to get their acts together! I can't wait until the cat fights start...and they will. On to the men. They don't surprise me by being a bunch of raging hormones. I do think it's hilarious they lost such a huge lead in the immunity challenge because they can't follow directions and have no sense of balance. All in all I think this should be a very interesting Survivor. Tribal Council, I wondered if I dozed off for a few minutes because I'm not sure I agree with their choice of Ryan. He wouldn't have been my choice to vote off. I'd have kicked bossy Roger out the door. The first time he told me to do something I'd have been in his face and telling him if he wanted something done to ask me politely and not to use that condescending, dictatorial manner of ordering me to do something and then saying thank you like I'm a child. Guess I need to quit, you all are going to wish I'd go back to the lurker's corner! |
Twiggyish | Friday, February 14, 2003 - 03:13 pm     Welcome Poufy, no need to lurk any longer. I agree with you about the men choosing Ryan. It didn't sound like a strategic move to me, either. |
Hermione69 | Friday, February 14, 2003 - 03:14 pm     Not at all, we love seeing lurkers come out of hiding and sharing their opinions! Welcome to the world of active posting! |
Car54 | Friday, February 14, 2003 - 03:43 pm     I am cutting Heidi a little slack...I think the women were pretty sure they were going to Tribal Council...they knew they were doing pretty badly at just about anything. I suspect if I was in that position, I would be looking at EVERYONE on the tribe trying to figure out who I would boot...thinking I would have to make that decision. Having that hang over your head really colors how you really relate. If they had to go...Janet, because she was sick and Christy because she might be a liability because of communication issues would be the most obvious picks. From what I could see...Janet had kind of perked up by the end...and she is a nurse, which could prove useful. Oh...I don't know what I am saying...but I guess if I thought I was going to have to boot someone out, I would sort of protect myself by not getting close to the candidates. That statement was about the only confessional that we saw from Heidi...I want to see what she does in the next show before I write her off. Don't get me wrong...I was surprised that a teacher would be so judgemental...but we really only heard that one sentence from her...I want to see a bit more. |
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