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Webkitty

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 04:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm trying to think of past Survivor challenges like this and who they favored.

I seem to remember Kelly W./S1 having no trouble winning a challenge similar to this.

S2 - Tina said she could have stayed on that log all night, and Alica didn't seem to have a problem, but jumped down becasue she felt secure in her alliance. (correct me if I'm wrong)

S3 - drawing a blank, unless you count mamakim in the pole endurance.

S4 - Neleh could have easily beat Vee holding the pole if they hadn't agreed to let go. Vee was stressed, Neleh looked quit comfortable.

S5 - Brian swept the final challenges, but I don't remember any pole/log standing challenges.

From the vidcaps it looks like several men give up, and that one above with Deena bent over with her arms resting on her knees, looks like she may be tired. (or her back hurts) Heidi and Jenna look like they are having no trouble with balance, and seem to be having fun with it if they are taking off their clothes. (Heidi obviously hasn't a clue what she really looks like, but whatever)

Matt did well with the log rolling, so he could be a contender too. I think if the spoilers are true, and he is our F2 man, he must do well in IIC because he doesn't seem liked. (by anyone) He would seem like a good candidate to get booted next week, but we know that Alex does. (I am going on that assumption) So, what saves Matt in ep7? Individual immunity?

Christy did well on the log rolling too, I would love it if she won the first IIC.

Tabbyking

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 04:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hey, i like matthew!!

Alaginger

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 04:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Webkitty......regarding Matt.

Over at TDT they said something like Alex voted against one of the guys last week (Matt) rather than against a gal, and once they start living together, if Matt doesn't let that be known, Rob probably will.......and TDT seems to think that is the undoing of Alex. So...... that is probably what saves Matt this week if he doesn't win immunity.

Webkitty

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 04:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yea, Tabby, but your not there in the Amazon.... I meant, the people there...

Alaginger

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 04:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tabbyking........I like Matt, too! I know he isn't as cute as some of the other guys, but he is well built, and seems to be mild-mannered and well-spoken......and when he is all spruced up, he isn't too bad on the eyes. Some of the other guys are just cute even when they are gubby, so Matt has to work at it a little harder! I thought that picture of him last week sleeping on Shawna's tummy was adorable.

Webkitty

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 04:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry if my meaning was off about Matt, I didn't mean to imply that he has no fans out here in tv land. It was just the impression I got last night, maybe from the Rob comments.

Car54

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 04:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It is ALWAYS the lower center of gravity. Women got it every time. Men's center is their shoulders and standing that long in one place with nothing to balance them is harder. If you look at Deena when she bends and rests her hands on her knees she is still centered she can rest..if a guy did it, his shoulders would put him off balance.

I went to one of those corporate "camps" once and they had us do an exercise... stand facing a wall and put a straightback chair sideways between you and the wall. Bend over the chair and put your head on the wall and put your weight into the wall.

Now pick up the chair and try to stand up straight. It is pretty easy for women to do this because their weight is in their hips but men whose weight is in their upper body and shoulders have a really hard time standing back up holding the chair in the air without pushing off the wall with a hand or the chair.
Not saying it can't be done, but it comes much easier to women.

If that is the case, Deena and Christy are the most favored..they are both pretty strong and are built for it. The skinny girls are probably going to do ok but I wonder if they have the long term endurance to hold out.

Matt seems to have a lot of endurance..he is the only man I see making the end on this. He is also very very skinny all the way up and down.

Webkitty

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 04:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Car, I agree about the center of gravity thing.
When I was thinking about past challenges like this, it seemed as if women did well.

Having a bad back myself, when I saw that vidcap of Deena, it reminded me of times I've had to get in that position to stretch it. Not that I'm saying she has a bad back or anything, it was just a thought. (did anyone ever have one of those day when everything they posted came out wrong? lol)

Squaredsc

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 04:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
it would have been nice if during thailand's endurance thing that brian just breezed thru, if there was another woman competing against him other then jan. they could have given him a run for his $$$.

you guys are just sooo good at this.

Llkoolaid

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 04:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
All I gotta say is would someone give Heidi a mirror please.

Car54

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 05:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL, Kitty, I have that day every day!

Square, do you remember the F3 challenge in Thailand...I am going nuts trying to remember... I know it involved squatting and balance and holding coins...and ol Jan cramped up but I can't remember how it went. Helen would have beat his butt I still think.

I also think Neleh tricked Kathy into fixing her shirt... Kathy got robbed.

Fruitbat

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 05:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They had coins between their fingers, three I think and squatted in a cage type thing in a cave. Both Jan and Clay let the coins drop, not on purpose. Brian won.

Grannyg

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 05:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Car, remember they were in shackles and had to stand the entire time and hold the coins with their knuckles with their hand closed. I know that isn't the right description but I can see it plain as day. Seems like it was really hot and they all started sweating. Am I close?

Car54

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 05:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok I got the coin thing but I can't remember the shackle thing at all. Gosh...my hard drive is full I can usually remember EVERYTHING about Survivor.

Hippyt

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 05:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that was the hardest IC they've ever.So,a question,this is the last week before we start with the jury members,right?

Car54

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 05:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yup, it will be Alex so he can be with Shawna.

Rob doesn't like him, Matt doesn't like him, Roger will hope it isn't him and the girls will do it.

This will be why a girl will win...the men vote for a man and deplete their majority major major mistake. They will do it 2 more times with Roger and Dave...

Squaredsc

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 06:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
car, what ms. bat and grannyg said. brian actually looked very comfortable during that challenge, he was totally in the zone.

Hippyt

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 06:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Car54,this week seems like a gimme for the spoilers.

Car54

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 06:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah but what were they doing? I can see Brian's face all zoned out and the coins, but I am just blanking out here.

I am gonna go try to find some pics at Mess.

Grooch

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 06:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They had a pole over their shoulders... ummm wait a minute....

They had their arms going through these poles and held their palms skywards with the coins in them.

The way the poles were, they were like a bamboo frame that you stuck your arms through. You couldn't touch anything. So it made it very painful to stand in that position.

Brian was in a meditative state and he would have lasted for hours.

Fruitbat

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 06:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They were in cage used for some meditation/spiritual practice the locals did. They assumed the position they did. I can't remember any more. There were candles.

Oh and yes CAR! I totally forgot...........there was NO holding onto a pole! How lame was I to have forgotton to give you poop about that! The reunion show was so good last year that it blew that out of my mind. Well it's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!!! Thanks Grooch.

Grooch

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 06:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There were poles. You just couldn't touch the poles this time. ;)

Alaginger

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 06:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The way I remember that last challenge with Brian, they had to put their legs apart and do a small squat which is a position that is very hard to hold for any given time. There was a lot of comment about the pressure that put on your back, and the pain it caused, and enduring that pain. Even when they said "I give up" they were cramped and had a hard time straightening up and getting out of the contraption. Having a bad back, myself, I just grimaced the whole time I was watching that one.
Back to the standing on the poles in the water with Episode 6. I'm thinking Christy will be at a disadvantage based on the balance thing we were discussing last week regarding the log rolling. Hermione, didn't you say that a person who is deaf also has trouble with balance......and wouldn't standing on that platform in the water require balance? What do you think?

Alaginger

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 06:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here's another picture from Survivor Phoenix that is puzzling me. I've passed over it several times yesterday evening and again today, and just decided I would put it here for you guys to chew on. roger2

Okay.....I think that is Roger. I think his buff on his head is red, or is doctored up to look red...it sure doesn't look blue.

And I can't figure out what he is doing. If they have moved to a different site, the Survivors may be having to down more trees and build more shelter???

Also, I thought somebody may have slipped a picture from the past in there, but across the bottom it says Wednesday night, and since that scene wasn't last night....it has to be next Wednesday's show.

Car54

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 06:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, ok, I think I got it.


Alaginger, I think it must be new merge camp time. Roger is all about building stuff.