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Seamonkey | Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 06:33 pm     I thought it was Heidi who got the painful insect bite, not Christy.. at least per the apoilers tonight.. it hasn't aired yet here of course. |
Webkitty | Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 06:39 pm     Seamonkey, it was Heidi, I typed Christy by mistake. |
Hermione69 | Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 06:40 pm     It was Heidi. I think Ms. Kitty mistyped. Good guess on it being a reward challenge that has Jenna crying. I'll climb on board with that. What I am more interested in is how this powerful group of four ends up splitting. I like the theories everyone is putting forth. I think maybe this is the moment Jeff was talking about when someone gets upset and goes over to the other side. Maybe he was just playing with the numbers (5-3, 4-4) so as not to give too much away. I'm going to bed. Good night, Seamonkey and everyone. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 06:44 pm     I figured it was a mis-type, but wanted it clear for other readers Cannot be a tie next time. I think/hope the tide will turn on Rob next. Night Hermi! I feel tired too, but I have to stay up for Survivor... |
Hermione69 | Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 06:47 pm     My eye is still twitching really badly. Fifteen days now. It's never done it for more than a couple of days. I have spring break next week and I am hoping the eye-twitch is from fatigue and that the break will take care of it, because I plan to sleep and sleep and sleep. Oh well, good night again. For real this time. Thanks again for your CBS Fantasy tips, Seamonkey! I can't wait to see how we did! |
Webkitty | Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 06:48 pm     Night Herm! Get your sleep, it will be another week of merry-go-round to figure out if its Rob or Alex that goes next, oy. Did Deena drive her car off the road tonight? Or will it be Rob that does that? Or is this another goof on us by Jeff  |
Alaginger | Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 07:08 pm     If the F4 are in fact Matthew, Jenna, Butch and Christy........and if Heidi in fact is leaving in Episode 11.......then all we have to decide is if it is Rob or Alex leaving in Episode 10, right??? Cableman comes tomorrow morning....wish me luck! |
Alaginger | Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 07:18 pm     Few pictures already up at Survivor Phoenix..... Heidi, Rob, Alex and Jenna flaunting (notice Jenna's bare top for those that do CBS Fantasy)
Jenna and Heidi cry......
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Webkitty | Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 07:18 pm     Good luck Ginger! LL, I like your theory and I hope it goes down that way. I like Alex and Rob, but I want Rob to stay for the entertainment value. We don't get another new show for two weeks, and I will probably make myself dizzy changing my mind back and forth by then! |
Webkitty | Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 07:23 pm     Thanks for the vidcaps Ginger. Heidi looks so skinny I'm starting to feel sorry for her. Gawd. There is no way Jenna and Heidi are going to turn on each other. The episode Heidi gets booted is an even number, so I think she might get the purple rock. It would be: H/J/B/M/C/and either Rob or Alex left. Maybe this is the episode Jeff was talking about (the tie) |
Webkitty | Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 07:31 pm     If I had to vote right this minute for next episode: RC: Jenna IC: Matt Boot: Alex I think when B/C/M see the four laying around and not working, Matt will go to Rob to ask what's up? (because Matt trusts Rob the most) When Matt wins immunity, Rob will know that M/C/B are going to vote as a block, and he will have to make a decision. If he joins the 3 to vote off Alex, he will get H/J ticked at him. If he joins C/J/A to vote off Butch or Christy, he is left with Alex who he knows the girls like more than him, and who is an immunity threat. If we believe the CO final four, then we know what his decision will be. Alex will go. (I will change my mind I'm sure, but for now, that's how I see it) |
Clp | Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 08:47 pm     The previews look like a new episode, not the recap. What is up with that? By the way, in this episode thread I posted this a while back. Since it seems to be holding true, maybe the titles we get in advance may give us a clue to the episode. Monday, March 31, 2003 - 09:51 pm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm wondering if someone refers to the boot order as a chain. More than any other season the episode title seems to come out of someone's mouth at some point during the show: Ep1 - Boys V. Girls - JP and many others refered to the tribes this way Ep2 - Storms - Shawna and Deena talking about the big rain that came Ep3 - Girl Power - J, H, & S refering to the "cute" alliance Ep4 - Trapped - Shawna and Jenna saying she was trapped in the game Ep5 - Pick Up Sticks - Jeanne telling Christy and Heidi that would be how they picked who to vote for Ep6 - More Than "Meats" The Eye - I think this is how JP introduced the challenge Ep7 - Girls Gone Wilder - Jenna and Heidi saying they were Girls Gone Wild in the Amazon Ep8 - Sleeping With The Enemy - Rob says in the preview, he doesn't like someone in his alliance sleeping with the enemy in reference to Dave and Heidi. Add in Ep9 - The Chain - Matthew refers to the chain of information in the tribe. |
Clp | Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 09:14 pm     Darn, hate to post back to back, but here are the website clues for next week's episode. "In a SURVIVOR tradition, the castaways bid on much-desired items of food. But when letters from home are thrown into the auction, emotions run high and a fierce bidding war breaks out, leading some to exuberance and others to tears." "Particularly good news from home makes one Survivor giddy with excitement and leads to a morale boost." "Beaming with power, the alliance of Alex, Rob, Jenna and Heidi take it easy while the others toil in the hopes of saving themselves." "A Survivor promises to vote against a trusted ally, sending the wounded friend into a flutter." "AND DON'T MISS A SPECIAL SURVIVOR: AMAZON REDUX ON THURSDAY, APRIL 17. Relive unforgettable moments and watch never-before-seen footage: Jeanne vows vengeance in JoAnna's honor and whips up a little culinary surprise of grubs and worms for her unsuspecting tribemates, who think they've been handed a feast. Rob spends some intimate time with Heidi, and a night prowler has the Survivors fearing for their lives!" So, are we getting a new episode and the recap back to back or what? |
Wilsonatmd | Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 09:30 pm     nope...TV Guide has the recap next week and the new ep in two weeks. The clues are for the next Episode (the recap doesn't count), so they make sense. |
Webkitty | Friday, April 11, 2003 - 07:45 am     Thaks Clp! I like the re-caps, and will watch and tape it for any clues we might not have seen yet. This is how I think the rest of the season will play out, I might change my mind after watching the re-cap. I noticed watching the show last night, that Rob seemed to have his wheels turning hard when he was watching Matt during both challenges. He realizes Matt has the potential to be a huge immunity threat. He knows Matt probably did throw the RC, and if he had given him encouragement to WIN it, he probably would have. He knows that Matt trusts him the most. I think he is going to re-think his plan to boot Matt, and instead, make a pact with him to go all the way to F2. Rob knows that if he is up against Matt at F2, he will win, hands down. Note: understand that their perception out there at that point in time is not our perception watching the show. Ok, so now Rob sees that the others can't blame HIM if Matt wins immunity, and knows that he has influence over Matt to really go for it. Rob also knows that Matt will keep quite about their secret alliance. Rob also knows that Matt will vote for whoever he tells him too, and pass that along to Butch. So, he has a voting block of three that is already trained to secrecy *need to know basis* He also knows that Matt and Butch will pass the tageted boot along to Christy. So, now he has a chain of 4, easy ride to F2, per Jeff's radio comments at the beginning of the season. Rob also realizes that he is the 4th wheel when it comes to Alex,Jenna and Heidi. He is not delusional in that regard, he knows if it came down to it, J/H would pick Alex over him. Plus, Alex IS an immunity threat. There was some forshawdoing of this when Rob told us that he is aware that Jenna and Heidi are using their sexuality to sway him, but he is thinking with his "top" head, and will make a move against them if he needs to. Seperating the girls from Alex will be this move. In the preview, we were shown Butch getting a clue that he and Christy and Matt are NOT in the loop like he thought they were. Rob catches wind of this through Matt. He now has a decision to make. Does he stick with his alliance of H/J/A to boot one of the others, or does he go with M/C/B to boot Matt? He goes with the Matt F2 plan above, and Alex gets the boot. Now, Jenna and Heidi are livid with Rob, and scared. They need to bring Christy on board to try force a tie, at least. Its the best they can do at this point. Christy does not buy it, and votes against Heidi at TC. Thus, the reports that Heidi "hates" Christy. We know Heidi goes this episode. Rob has broken the Jenna/Heidi alliance. Jenna may win immunity this episode so that is why Heidi is targeted. Maybe not. Next, Jenna is on a rampage! We have seen what she is like if she feels betrayed. She will go to Matt and tell him EVERYTHING that Rob has been saying about him behind his back. She is out for revenge. This will cause the confrontation between Matt and Rob, and Rob will be booted for it. Bye. Bye. Rob drove his car off the road. Next, Christy gets booted per CO spoiler. Maybe Jenna and Matt bond because of the Rob debacle, maybe not. Either way, I think Jenna or Matt wins immunity. If Butch won, Christy might be safe, but I have to say, MB has not show us that they are all that tight. Final IC, Jenna wins and takes Matt to F2. I think Jenna wins because we have seen Matt and Butch spending a lot of time together, and if Matt won it, I think he might take Butch over Jenna. Final TC: Jenna: Dave, Deena (from the Early Show interview, I don't think Deena holds a grudge against Jenna) Alex, Heidi, Rob, Christy (because she never changes her mind about *creepy* Matt) Matt: Butch (but maybe Chrisy too, she must know she was always out of the loop in the "girls" alliance, and will vote with Butch) |
Moondance | Friday, April 11, 2003 - 11:31 am     From SS... FilmMkr JP just made his weekly appearance on KILT-FM here in Houston On Deena: "Was she overconfident? Yeah . . . its hard . . . you know, she was in control, but she got in too deep with Heidi. THAT'S the thing right there <ETH> the Jenna/Heidi bond is what people should watch out for.Ó On Rob: "Yeah, he is really playing strong right now. He has a masterful way of being right in the thick of things, but staying just below the level where all the decisions seem to be made. He is such a good storyteller, and he absolutely feels heÕs in control." "Sometimes I have to try to . . . . a couple of weeks ago I said something to him about his comment about the Bushmaster being a porn star, because, you know, IÕm playing my own game out there. I mean, Rob always wanted my approval <ETH>(affects a Rob voice) ÔWell, you know Probst, Heidi wants to go back and get her raincoat, but the rules state that once you arrive at a challenge, you have to compete with what you brought.Õ He knows the game so well, and he is so in tune with whatÕs going on. On Mateo: "Yes, he is absolutely clueless out there <ETH> at least in the social game of Survivor. But you know . . . when he became and underdog for me was back in week two, when he started talking to Daniel in Mandarin. That was a nice gesture, with no subtext, and reveals the kind of person Matt really is.Ó "Did he throw the reward challenge? ThatÕs hard to say. You know, in Australia, Colby was on a long truck ride to a reward and he said to me, ÔProbst, I think I need to throw a challengeÕ, and I said to him, ÔI canÕt help you there, brother.Õ The problem is that at this point in the game, everyone is afraid to give someone else an opportunity to take them down. Matt could dominate, but he just does not get that." "Watching Rob manipulate Matt really shows how clueless he is, but at least Matt is honest. Rob is not giving him all the secrets.Ó On Flying Under the Radar: "Is playing an under the radar-type game a good strategy? Well, that depends on how you look at it. I mean Alex is athletic and outspoken and lays it all out there for everyone to see, and he is doing fairly well. Rob, on the other hand, is just right there below the surface. He influences every decision without appearing to be the one driving the boat <ETH> he has a hand in everything thatÕs going on." "Butch <ETH> now thereÕs an under the radar guy! Butch is a kind of a 'dote-de-doh, here we go' fellow who is on no oneÕs list, but he is also the kind of guy that can sneak up on you, and before you know it, youÕre seen as a threat." Well, thatÕs all for this week, kiddos. I tried to sneak in a question about the Jacare 4 at Club Med and how the scenario parallels the Rotu 4, but my buddy didnÕt have time to work it in. In general, though, Jeff was really gushing about RobÕs game, sounded sort of, um, melancholy about Matt (I wonder why <ETH> setup, perhaps?), and encouraged us to watch out for Heidi and JennaÕs alliance. |
Clp | Friday, April 11, 2003 - 11:32 am     Here is the transcript from Filmaker over at SS. To refresh, he has a friend who is a DJ that interviews JP on Friday mornings. He sends him questions to ask that spoilers are wondering about. On Deena: "Was she overconfident? Yeah . . . its hard . . . you know, she was in control, but she got in too deep with Heidi. THAT'S the thing right there – the Jenna/Heidi bond is what people should watch out for.” On Rob: "Yeah, he is really playing strong right now. He has a masterful way of being right in the thick of things, but staying just below the level where all the decisions seem to be made. He is such a good storyteller, and he absolutely feels he’s in control." "Sometimes I have to try to . . . . a couple of weeks ago I said something to him about his comment about the Bushmaster being a porn star, because, you know, I’m playing my own game out there. I mean, Rob always wanted my approval –(affects a Rob voice) ‘Well, you know Probst, Heidi wants to go back and get her raincoat, but the rules state that once you arrive at a challenge, you have to compete with what you brought.’ He knows the game so well, and he is so in tune with what’s going on. On Mateo: "Yes, he is absolutely clueless out there – at least in the social game of Survivor. But you know . . . when he became and underdog for me was back in week two, when he started talking to Daniel in Mandarin. That was a nice gesture, with no subtext, and reveals the kind of person Matt really is.” "Did he throw the reward challenge? That’s hard to say. You know, in Australia, Colby was on a long truck ride to a reward and he said to me, ‘Probst, I think I need to throw a challenge’, and I said to him, ‘I can’t help you there, brother.’ The problem is that at this point in the game, everyone is afraid to give someone else an opportunity to take them down. Matt could dominate, but he just does not get that." "Watching Rob manipulate Matt really shows how clueless he is, but at least Matt is honest. Rob is not giving him all the secrets.” On Flying Under the Radar: "Is playing an under the radar-type game a good strategy? Well, that depends on how you look at it. I mean Alex is athletic and outspoken and lays it all out there for everyone to see, and he is doing fairly well. Rob, on the other hand, is just right there below the surface. He influences every decision without appearing to be the one driving the boat – he has a hand in everything that’s going on." On Butch – now there’s an under the radar guy! Butch is a kind of a 'dote-de-doh, here we go' fellow who is on no one’s list, but he is also the kind of guy that can sneak up on you, and before you know it, you’re seen as a threat." Filmaker says - Well, that’s all for this week, kiddos. I tried to sneak in a question about the Jacare 4 at Club Med and how the scenario parallels the Rotu 4, but my buddy didn’t have time to work it in. In general, though, Jeff was really gushing about Rob’s game, sounded sort of, um, melancholy about Matt (I wonder why – setup, perhaps?), and encouraged us to watch out for Heidi and Jenna’s alliance. |
Moondance | Friday, April 11, 2003 - 11:38 am     LOL Clp jinx... beatcha by a minute! |
Clp | Friday, April 11, 2003 - 12:45 pm     OMG - that is too funny! Sorry to post it again, but I guess great minds think alike! |
Wiseolowl | Friday, April 11, 2003 - 01:48 pm     Can anybody help me out- it's laziness - I know - but there is a debate on another thread about spoilers - and this seems to be the spoiler thread - but there are apprximately 1130 posts here and I don't have the time to start at the beginning - Is there really somebody out there who has accurately predicted the outcome on a weekly basis - and final basis and if so where? Would appreciate it if there is a definitive source - or are you guys just having fun ? thanks Am posting seriously to try and catch up |
Webkitty | Friday, April 11, 2003 - 01:52 pm     Wise, go the the ChillOne thread. Read it, then come back here and this thread *might* make some sense. Good luck!  |
Not1worry | Friday, April 11, 2003 - 03:31 pm     Didn't JP make a comment about how we would like this season's winner? Or we'd be happy with them or some such. I have a hard time imagining how Jenna or Matthew fit that description. Jenna is loathsome to many because of her attitude. Matthew has been very clueless and while a physically strong player, his only strategy seems to be to follow Rob. Unless there are some major editing turns to be taken with their "characters" I don't see being happy with either of them as the winner. |
Alaginger | Friday, April 11, 2003 - 06:09 pm     Just ignore me......I'm practicing on a picture of Heidi from Episode 10 to see if I can do it now that I'm on the Pipeline......
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Alaginger | Friday, April 11, 2003 - 06:11 pm     Wow.....that's fast!!! Hey, just noticed!!! What's that on her thumb? |
Moondance | Friday, April 11, 2003 - 07:05 pm     It's a thumb replacement ... it disappeared along with the rest of her. |
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