Archive through February 21, 2003
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Archive through February 21, 2003
Pamy | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 08:08 am     I can't stand Joanna!!!!!! I was crying with Christy at the end. I just felt so sorry for her. Hungry or not, those woman could be nicer! and just when I thought Jeanne was being so nice and helpful for filling Christy in about conversations, she turns out to be just as bad as the rest! |
Grooch | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 08:10 am     In Jeff's radio interview this morning, he said what happened is that whoever was telling Christy what happened the night before with Joanna and the idol. And instead of Christy just saying something like, "Oh, that's interesting" or just keeping quiet about it (like Brian from last season) she had to make a comment about how stupid it was and Joanna overheard her and lost it. He also said that it was a very long tribal council and a lot went on that they didn't show. And basically he said something like Joanna made it obvious that everything is fine as long as Christy doesn't talk to her at all. WTF?!?! I'm sorry. But she is in my intense dislike group because I think she has gone totally over the top in my book. And I liked her in the 1st episode. |
Grooch | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 08:10 am     Pamy, what did Jeanne do that was so bad? I must have missed it. |
Wink | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 08:14 am     Jeanne is quite the instigator. She was involved with the Christy/Joanna confrontation and later we see Joanna telling the young'uns that "Jeanne" saw the granola bar in Janet's bag. Have Jeanne and Joanna formed an alliance already and is Jeanne having Joanna do some of her dirty work? Joanna's total overreaction to Christy's comment was very uncomfortable to watch. I think Christy certainly held her own in this little battle but Joanna showed a very unpleasant side. I hope for her sake it was a one time thing. |
Bbfreak | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 08:19 am     The fact of the matter is Joanna's reaction IS STUPID, I would have yelled it to the 4 directions not caring if I was rude or not. This woman KNEW that there would be an idol in camp. There has ALWAYS been an immunity idol, PERIOD. She KNEW since Survivor 1 that idol would be coveted, so why be on the show at ALL if it is against her religon? She went ON AND ON about her opinion about the idol, even telling EVERYONE that the idol was WRONG, and they were WRONG to covet it, so why can't christy say 2 words? <That's STUPID>. Christy even sat there and apologized profusely over and over again, saying that her words did not come out right and Joanna still had her hand and finger in Christy's face. What ever happend to forgiveness and turning the other cheek? I guess Joanna PICKS and CHOOSES what she practices in her religon. That woman had me so mad I was screaming at the TV, LOL. Her bible thumping has no place on a reality show. Thanks for letting me vent! |
Webkitty | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 09:10 am     I got a little confused after seeing the Early Show this morning, so I wachted my tape again. (Julie Chen asked why Janet didn't speak up when Joanna was in Chisty's face) I thought, maybe I got that wrong, maybe it was Janet that brought up the immunity idol conversations to Chrisy. It was Jeanne who brought up the immunity idol to Christy. (filling her in on the conversations the night before) Then, Jeanne was gone from the screen, and all of the sudden, Janet was there watching the altercation. Where did Jeanne go? Its like she planted the seed and then left the scene. My take it on was that Jeanne must have given Christy the impression that what Joanna was saying was "stupid", maybe with some eye rolling and facial expressions. I would think it would be hard to convey to Christy the nuances of tone of voice. I would have loved to see Christy tell Joanna that she was only going by what Jeanne told her. Go talk to her...... |
Wink | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 09:26 am     Jean Jean instigatin machine. |
Gina8642 | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 09:29 am     Lots of good observations, I don't have time to read them all, because I'm only on my lunch break. One thing I noticed. We never saw Jeanne say didly about Janet and gronola bar. What we saw was JoAnna say that Jeanne said....'blah, blah,...' Who knows what Jeanne actually said? Not defending her, but I know from personal experience that it really sucks to have people misrepresent what you have said, or just outright lie about it... |
Pamy | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 09:31 am     Grooch..see Wink's above post, that about says it! ps.thanks Wink I couldn't think how to put it into words, brain sleepy today!! The more I read and think about how Joanna acted the madder I get!! CAR....have you been to SS board today?? Are they all going off on Joanna and Roger as you predicted? |
Wink | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 09:34 am     Gina I thought I saw Jeanne speaking about Janet and the granola bar at some point but if I'm mistaken I stand corrected. Maybe it's cause I just don't care for Jeanne that I wished it so? |
Car54 | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 10:06 am     Sorry Pamy, today is my day to huff off... I am not really here. I think they need to vote Joanna off next week and tell her it was because the Idol told them to do it. I thought someone repeated Jeanne said it to them about the granola bar. And what is with these dumb bunnies...use the rest of the granola bar to flavor the manioc crap. And did they learn to make cakes yet or are they still eating manioc soup? |
Moondance | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 10:14 am     Car, your Huff is much too discrete! Come on girl stir up some drama! I would so get voted off soon from this girlie tribe...someone needs to kick them in line! |
Pamy | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 10:29 am     Oh, sorry I forgot about your huff day!! (((((((CAR)))))))) please come back!! We love you!! When you come back you can tell us all about your day at the SS board! Moon...I hear ya, sista! I was thinking those girls remind me of my office! A bunch of backstabbing, jealous, two- faced, whiny, b!tches!...except me, of course!(ok, me too on pms days!) |
Moondance | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 10:33 am     Pamy & Moon together on a PMS day! (Pamy Moon Syndrome) |
Grooch | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 10:39 am     I don't understand how Jeanne can be called an instigator because she was telling Christy about the idol and Joanna. Last week everyone was saying how mean the girls were because they weren't telling Christy anything. We have no proof at all that Jeanne knew that Joanna was in the bushes listening. |
Pamy | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 10:45 am     Moon..ROTF!!! but I think having pamy-moon syndrom would be a good thing!! <snacking today on Cheetos & cookies, it makes me feel soooo much better!> |
Squaredsc | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 11:03 am     ok, ive tried to hold it in. i really really really tried. but i can't. and i know im going to pi** some of you off. but im going to say this once and once only, i hope that i don't have to make another comment on it, but you all know how i love to talk, lol. i was talking to a friend at lunch about this too. she is not as fanatical about survivor as i am though. but we were talking about how fanatical or overly religious black women are(using the term black and not a/a so there is no confusion and im not feeling pc right now, sorry). and we were talking about how it is being portrayed on survivor, with vee, and now with joanna. to be honest its not a big deal to me cause i know lots of people like this. you can do a whole study on it. im not saying its all in the editing and that thats not how she is. i really don't know how she is. we saw about what 15 mins out of how many? neleh and pascal were very religous and it wasn't blown out of proportion like this to me, of course they didn't talk about the idol. i also thought on s-africa that the linda thing wasn't that out of the ordinary. it makes me wonder if casting is looking for over religious black women? lazy black men? what? it is really getting annoying cause unfortunately its giving a negative impression and i start feeling embarassed and i shouldn't i know. i know again im not saying this right. but my friend and dh and i keep saying that this is some kind of trend and its intensified cause you don't see any other kind of black people. ted was finally an exception to the lazy black man and then the whole ghandia thing. i feel like it sets us back, i said i, not anyone else. ok going to shut up now and go back to the hug thread for a bit. go ahead and flame away at me. and i don't want anyone to think that they have to censor themselves or anything cause i love reading all of your thoughts and stuff. again im sorry if i offended anyone or made anyone feel bad cause it wasn't my intent, i just had something to get off my chest. plz just ignore me.  |
Squaredsc | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 11:03 am     lol moonie, pms. |
Pamy | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 11:13 am     I understand what you are saying Square, I have thought the same thing. There are tons of hot looking, hard working black men,why don't they get cast?... maybe they don't apply.. |
Monkeyboy | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 11:16 am     (((((((Square))))))) you have the right to your opinion! and your opinion makes sense, so dont feel bad or anything |
Mygetaway | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 11:24 am     Square.. I understand 100% what you are saying.. I posted something similar last night in that I wondered if they casted these particular women because they knew or thought there would be chaos and disorder instead of a kick a$$ Amazonian tribe. I do believe they cast for certain stroyline possibilities, or maybe have an idea in mind and look for "certain types" of people. |
Car54 | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 11:24 am     Square, this has been debated every single Survivor season that I can remember, and I think the arguement from your perspective has merit. I did not have any issues with Vee at all...except with the fact that her storyline was kept so hidden from us..but that has nothing to do with her..but with the producers. I did not think Ted was edited as lazy or fanatical, he was one of the most attractive players in that season. I can't think of many players of any color who could have come out of the Ghandia thing still smelling as good as he did. Personally I feel bad that Joanna is coming off bad...I knew it would bother you and I see why. She and Daniel are the only real minority players this time and neither one of them look like they have a chance to do much in the game. I loved Sean...I thought he was funny and smart and entertaining...and he could annoy the crap out of me...but I love the Survivors who make the show interesting...and he did that for me. I am sorry you feel frustrated. I would feel frustrated too. I am not mad at Joanna because of what color she is or because of her religion...I am mad because she is making stupid mistakes in the game...as did Jeanne, as did Christy, as did Janet. Love ya kid. Keep saying what you think...we need your perspective a lot! |
Grooch | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 11:30 am     I second what Car says. Plus there was Nick from Austraila. I remember reading something either MB or Jeff said. That he had a lot more of an out going personality when they cast him. But when he got out there, he became very quiet and didn't get involved in any of the fights, so he got almost no air time at all. And Alicia was wonderful and I wish she made it further in the game and beat what's her name that won. |
Fluff | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 11:31 am     Square I absolutely, positivelutely, agree with yuh. I do find it embarassing. It does make me sick, and I wonder if the casting director is doing it on purpose, or just looking for certain similar characteristics in the black people that he or she chooses. If so, that person needs to snap out of it, and break the trend. |
Squaredsc | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 11:34 am     thanks guys. this is why i love this board. it is frustrating cause we dont' get to see any other types of people. like how the younger people are always cast as the mallrats or something, the hot women. of course i do like my hot men now, lol. again i don't want anyone to feel that they can't say what they feel about the cast or anything. and don't feel like you can't say i hate this one or that one. and yes the whole idol thing was stupid but it just wasn't a big deal to me. and darn but i wish i saw the exchange joanna had with christy. of course i think on one had its is good that she was treating christy like she would anyone else, but from what you all have said it was harsh to do because christy is deaf and didn't mean what she said by how it came out. and i am so used to the neck rolling, hand waving, 'tude that black women can use, lol. ive done it myself, but i also snap my fingers. lol. |
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