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Calamity

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 08:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh well, I guess any hope I had of remaining spoiler-free are gone now! *Shrug* Guess it's not that important. (That's not directed at anyone in particular or meant to be nasty. It's just that I'm a bit frustrated that nobody else would use the non-spoiling thread.)

Anyway, I agree with both of Webkitty's posts. Jenna just blurted out that comment. I'm not defending it but under the circumstances it was sorta understandable.

Webkitty

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 09:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm sorry that you got spoiled Calamity. Its kind of hard sometimes to make a point about the show we just watched without letting some things slip.
But, I'll try to be more carefull in the future. That's why I said "if" Matt gets to F2 (and my opinion that he will) I could be wrong.

I'm telling you all right now, I love to eat, and its caught up with me after all these years. I try to stay away from certain foods, but I get cranky just doing that. The level of hunger these people have out there has got to be overwhelming. The challenges they have to do is like a full day at the gym, I know how hungry I get after a good workout. Maybe fat pig was the least of what Jenna was thinking at the time. I think I might have been swearing like a sailor to myself if two people who had just gorged on goodies came back and pigged out on the little bit of food at camp. We will never know what the rest of them were thinking, but I have a feeling it wasn't much better than what Jenna said. (for both Deena AND Dave) He was even sucking the marrow out of the fish like he hadn't eaten in days, geesh.

Calamity

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 09:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks, Webkitty but I think I actually saw the names earlier in the thread so it wasn't your post that spoiled me at all! I guess it's kind of a relief, I won't have to read the posts with one eye closed and the other squinting anymore.

And ditto again on what you said. My favorite food is fresh orange juice and I sometimes even dream about it. I'd probably be hallucinating cartons of Tropicana if I was ever on 'Survivor', lol.

Csnog

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 09:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that they have received a lot of food this year compared to other years.

Snee

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 09:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
wow, this is really bad. i can't even remember any lobster ladies!

Tabbyking

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 09:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i think they have had a lot of good food, too. they had major good stuff already several days pretty close together. (that's why i don't think heidi and jenna stripped 'for' peanut butter and chocolate. they had just eaten tons of good stuff the day before.)
where is the rancid sashimi with flies on it, the warm, fresh blood, the tarantulas? even though i hate to watch!

Webkitty

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 10:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Tabby, its coming.... lol......
(unless you count the slabs of meat challenge as the gross food eating contest)

Oh man Calamity! I would be hallucinating Orville Renendbakers Kettle Korn popcorn! I could eat a whole bag of that every night! (sometimes I do, shhhh....)

Snee, Zoe was the lobster fisherperson from Marquases. She liked to go off by herself, and got NO camera time, right up till her boot. No wonder you don't remember her.

Micknrc

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 10:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Gross food is next week...(looks like IC)

Catfat

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 10:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
After eating all that sugar on empty stomachs, it is very likely Deena and Dave were having a hypoglycemic reaction, low blood sugar, which is a severe medical emergency and if not treated immediately can result in coma or death. I am not kidding about this. If that happens, eating carbohydrates and protein as fast as possible is one good remedy.

Webkitty

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 10:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Catfat, Dave and Deena gave no indication that they were having a medical emergency. If you taped the show, watch that part again. They were just being thoughtless of the others. And, I mean everyone there, not just Jenna. The look on Christy's face was heartbreaking. This doesn't mean that Dave and Deena are bad people, or that I don't "like" them, it just means that at THAT moment in time, they used poor judgement.

I understand what you are saying about sugar, I have the same problem. I know the symptoms, and if I had them there, I would say so, rather than just make the comments and act the way Deena and Dave did. I highly doubt that if Dave and Deena BOTH were having medical emergency's from sugar, and this was explained to the rest, that we would have seen the reactions we did from them. Jmo

I am not trying to change anyone's opinion about any player, but I know what I saw. Like I said before, if the shoe had been on the other foot in this situation, I would still have the same opinion. If Jenna and Dave had gone off and had the treats and come back to camp and acted that way, and Deena had called Jenna a selfish boney little b!tch, I would be defending the frustration BEHIND Deena's words. (not the words themselves, but what drove them)

Tabbyking

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 11:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
well, i saw it that they ate the 'junk food' hours before. i would be hungry again, too, and not for sweets. i don't think they were being heartless, but that's just my take on it. i don't remember a reward challenge where it was all sweets before. i would have preferred soups and shrimp and veggies myself...
i don't think of it as the mint in neleh's mouth at all. that was totally disgusting and i laughed til my stomach hurt! for a long time my kids would say, "well, it's not as bad as the mint in neleh's mouth" ...

Fruitbat

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 11:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with every post of yours here Webkitty.

Fruitbat

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 11:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
A funny thing happens when your food intake drops way down in calories for an extended period. Your body craves sweets. It is a metabolic thing. You will notice how all Survivors crave them.

Squaredsc

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 12:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
<ms. kitty are you being stalked?>

Jane_Bond

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 01:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
but, Dave and Jenna DID have two big courses of food! And when they returned, nobody said they weren't entitled to lunch or supper because they have just gorged on the equivalent of an entire week's worth of food in one evening and morning.

No, Deena and Dave came home in the evening, said they were starved and Jenna began giving them grief about how they didn't deserve a couple of fish/manioc balls because they had gotten to eat the ice cream that SHE had been whining about since the beginning of filming.

I still can only interpret Jenna's private remarks as vicious and her public remarks as heavy duty sour apples. Where is the grace she supposedly brought with her from her years on the pageant circuit? You know, the skills she was bragging about a few episodes ago?

I don't mind so much that she was jealous - all the losers would be and that's totally understandable, but I think her behaviour was just horrible. Very spoiled brat syndrome.

I still come back to the feeling that she lost that particular competition and ought to have a few ounces of maturity in her to recognize that it wasn't a personal attack on her. I mean, why would she call Deena "that fat pig"?

Fruitbat

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 01:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ROLF! Square!

Car54

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 02:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They blew it. They were smart enough to know that the tribe left behind is ALWAYS jealous and after the merge it is a dangerous thing to win an individual RC...it almost always comes back to
bite you in the butt.
The only RC worth winning is the car...you know you are gonna lose the game, but you win big.

They were trying to downplay the reward, re-join the tribe and be a part of the experience, but after you go away, you are ALWAYS suspect.

The only one I can think of who really got away with it is Ethan, by spending his money to bring back cookies for everyone, and Sean and Pappy.

This RC is always trouble.

There is really not a good way to get around it..you win in and go, you give the others time to resent you, bond in their resentment, and you miss it all.

BTW.. NO ONE has noticed that the masks were hanging on WHAT last night?????? What were they suspended on ?????? It is all about the ?????

Tabbyking

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 02:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
aha, jane, brilliant observation. jenna and dave did get to eat and a lot better food than what deena and dave had. no wonder dave didn't lose that much weight during his stint. he always got to eat...lol
i think jenna is only 21 or something, so she can't have a lot of mature years...especially if she supposedly got these skills on the pageant circuit, where it is often crazy and full of jealousy. i was grown up and living and working in ny when i was 20, with all my family back in california. i think i was at jenna's 'maturity age' when i was about 13.

Alaginger

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 02:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hate to say it Jane, but there is an awful lot of truth in what you pointed out about Jenna, and here we all are trying to like her.....and JP said we are going to like the winner......so if it is Jenna, we have to start hurrying up and liking her.

By the Way, I got you 3 stars on the TVCH Board. Sorry I couldn't do better.......but I don't think anybody got over 3 stars (from my first perusal).

Car........in keeping with your train of thought.....maybe next week they should do some **** vaulting!!!

Webkitty

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 02:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Its possible Square

Jane_Bond,
When Jenna and Dave returned from their overnight meeting, they had minutes to tell the others there had been a switch, food was not involved at all. Different time, different circumstances.

Tabbyking

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 02:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i would not like to win the challenges where you leave camp! i would wonder about what plotting was going on while i was away! especially as it gets farther along in the game.
i would have washed my buff, left it to dry and then tried to get some of the cake into it to take back. the ice cream had pretty much melted...when did they put it in the bowls? an hour earlier?! they could have taken some bananas back, too. i wonder if they are ever told they can eat what they can there, but no food can leave that area....???

Grooch

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 02:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tabby, it didn't look like they had much food at all. It was quite disappointing.

2 banannas, some melted ice cream, strawberries w/ whipcream and a brownie. That was about it.

Squaredsc

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 02:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
<waiting for ms. bat to show up.>

Car54

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 02:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Somebody DID comment that it had been Dave's third time to win a food RC (Tambaqui won as a team). (Can't remember who said it).

Car54

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 02:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ethan said that in S3...he and Lex won and went off and he was afraid the whole time because the tribe was left behind to strategize against them.

Ethan brought cookies back, Remember Pappy and Sean with the food in their pants smuggling it back to the team?