*****24 April 2003 show*******spoiling
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Webkitty | Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 07:30 pm     I think Matt threw the IC too. There must have been more conversation between these two than we saw. I hope when the Insider is posted tomorrow it will shed some light on this. If Rob assured Matt that he would vote to boot Alex even if Rob won immunity (to Matt's satisfaction) then Matt letting Rob win the IC was brilliant. It put a huge target on Rob's back. Still, throwing an IC at this point in the game is always risky. I wish someone had offered Christy some food, I felt desperate for her not getting any. I don't know why she didn't try harder to bid for some. She had no way of knowing the letters were coming. I guess it turned out ok for her though, she was the only one who had the cash to get a letter. (until Jenna got her letter cheap) |
Grooch | Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 07:31 pm     If Jenna's mother has a tumor, I can't imagine that she would come out there to the amazon. I hope Jenna isn't expecting her, if she wins the reward challenge. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 07:31 pm     Will do, Grooch.. 28 min til LIFTOFF!! |
Grooch | Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 07:32 pm     Web, I don't think they were allowed to share. Look at how high the prices went. I don't think they ever bid that high (and so fast) on previous auctions. |
Grooch | Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 07:33 pm     Thanks, Sea! |
Hermione69 | Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 07:41 pm     I haven't seen the episode yet so obviously I can't say exactly what happened at the auction, but as someone with a hearing loss VERY similar to Christy's, I can say with certainty that no way in hell would I be able to keep up with the bidding at an auction without some help, especially one moving as quickly as you guys indicate this one moved. So it is very likely that she had no idea what the prices were in the process so she just hung back and kept quiet rather than call attention to herself. We call it the "deaf nod." It's when we pretend like we know what is going on when we really don't just because we don't want to be a burden! |
Grooch | Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 07:45 pm     Well, she certainly understood when the letter was up for sale. No way was she going to lose that one. And I did not care for Jenna at all this episode. |
Grooch | Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 07:46 pm     While Butch, Matt and Christy were doing all the work at the beginning of the show, Jenna and Heidi were sitting there laughing about it, while trying to figure out where they should wear their buffs for the RC. They are soooooo high schoolish. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 08:02 pm     Previously, on S.. Rob had a "chain of command". Matt worried about winning reward, but Alx won, took Jenna.. West coast spoiling Shows people griping.. Deena felt she didn't need immunity, but she did.. Matt got it.. Theme song oh a oh a oha.. etc.. lotsa birds, hog, crock.. Jaguars, more great birds commercials |
Csnog | Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 08:05 pm     Watch for Butch to "handle a fish" Don't see who caught it but Matt was shown putting bait on his hook and then his line in the water. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 08:17 pm     Sun, changing.. zoom to boat, caymen watches Butch and Matt fish.. Others lie around talking about uses of buffs.. they also show Christy lying down too, at first.. rob bragging about the others working.. Christy is right there but ignoring them!! She needs to be reading lips and ratting on them Jenna considers those three her best friends H, A, R. Christy being ignored.. Jenna confessional about parents, mom.. Heidi confessional about Jenna's mom having cancer. Jenna loves her "core group; it really helps. Matt and Butch and Christy gather and hack wood. Alex now talks about how they hold majority and have the luxury of not working. Christy does her confessional about being a hard worker and how they should get off their butts,, they don't do jack sh!t. Matt confessional about being treated like dirt.. pretty certain that M B anc C would vote against any of them Rob gets treemail with Christy, Jenna and Heidi.. Rob sh!t eating grin, Heidi looking clueless.. Jenna and Christy grab the money and treemail and race back to camp, Heidi looks in basket hoping for ?? Survivor Auction. $500 each, limited number of items, some may come back up for bids, some will be covered some won't.. if you like it, suggest you bit. Cheesecake slice.. heidi $120 (single bid) covered item, bidding.. $240 to Alex (lots of bids).. Jeff offers trade for another covered dish.. Alex takes what he bought.. it is... turned down lasagna.. odds are I got screwed.. he got manioc!! Covered item.. $400 Matt. lots of bidding.. cheeseburger, fries, mayo.. (Christy was bidding right along) peanut butter n chocolate.. bidding.. $320 to Jenna.. again, Christy bid 2-3 times.. Scrambled eggs, bacon, pancakes and "something else" $400 to Butch.. christy didn't bid.. ?? best place to have breakfast.. he wins a single futon thing.. 32 gram protein bar rob protein drink ?? chocolate cake Heidi covered dish.. guys bidding.. Christy quiet on last four items Alex.. wins it.. Steak, baked potato, etc. Letter from home, one will get it.. Jenna, Christy gasp.. Well clearly Christy has more money.. commercial.. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 08:30 pm     Didn't get any detail on handling fish.. Bidding between Jenna, Heidi, Christy.. she gets the letter for $340.. She is CLEARLY emotional about it.. very happy.. she wasn't just bidding to win.. she cries.. Jenna sobs, Heidi cries.. bony girls hug.. Alex looks odd, Rob looks odd.. Jeff says is it ok to put another one up.. but only if Christy says ok, since she bid so much for hers.. Christy says of course.. Jenna bids $80, Heidi bids $100, Jenna bid $120.. heidi stops.. Christy still more emotional.. Jenna and Heidi clear to me that she said she was surprised but not surprised.. that Christy was being selfish.. Matt confessional that Jenna was being really selfish, that Christy deserved the letter.. Christy cries again while talking about her letter from her fiend Jennifer.. she goes off by herself to read her letter. Very tearful/happy. We'd better get beaucoup tear points on fantasy.. Jenna reads hers.. Heidi hugs her.. about tumor decreasing.. Alex and Rob crowd around.. Machete sounds in background.. LOL.. very touching.. Crock, water, boat.. Ok.. Matt and Butch.. in boat.. Butch is handiling/cleaning a fish!! I don't have Butch.. Matt and Butch talking about critical time Alex Heidi Jenna a group, then Rob.. get Rob to join us.. Butch doesn't want to rush it (!). Matt says Christy says she doesn't trust anyone, but he's had good talks with her.. speeded up clouds.. OOOOO/Mooon Night shots of sleeping tribemates, fire.. Day 29.. Alex and Rob up early.. Alex says if he gets immunity at F4, Rob goes, not one of the women cuz the women wouldn't vote the other.. Rob isn't too pleased. Alex says being down with Rob, honest, etc.. are you cool with that?? Rob doesn't look real cool with that.. over my dead body will I just turn over.. They agree to cross that bridge when they come to it commercial |
Seamonkey | Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 08:45 pm     Movie preview in the Amazon: Swimming Jjaguar, Hissing Caymen, Climbing Ssloth.. Rob, treemail, Alex.. SAT test.. each to answer questions.. Christy goes off to her tree to answer.. confessionals about questions. footage of anake.. Rob takes Matt off to talk.. tells Matt he had been lying but NOW he's telling truth.. Matt.. says Rob's been stringing him along.. Rob can be very underhanded.. appreciated his honesty and what he said next.. talking about Alex.. how Alex had the "hubris".. to tell Rob he'd be out at F4 and Matt says it is audacity that those four think they just naturally will be F4.. they shake.. Rob says Christy HATES the girls and he thinks she HATES Alex (does he actually know this.) Then he goes to Christy, smiles at her, says Christy is sweet girl, doesn't fit in, thinks the other girls have been mean to her.. they show Christy with sweet smile, Jenna and Heidi cuddling and flashing snide crocodile smiles. Christy says she could care less about Alex and he's drooling over Jenna and Heidi.. she doesn't really trust Rob.. Immunity.. looks like tribal council.. torches already there. Matt with the necklace. Each survivor at a "podium".. Jeffy takes necklace. Who do you trust most .. Butch 3 are right Sex appeal used.. Jenna.. she isn't so happy but is 4 get points 1 each most honest.. Matt and only Matt gets it right Matt 2 pts Never survive on own.. Jenna.. Matt 3, some have 2 Needs therapy Matt.. (Christy says JENNA. LOL) Matt still in lead by two. Pose nude Heidi .. Heidi gets it wrong.. Matt said Jenna. Heidi very proud of it.. Matt and Rob tied with four each. Who do you have a crush on.. Matthew only one to guess himself.. YES I think he threw it to Rob.. no one else could have won at that point. Rob happy. Matt impassive. commercial |
Seamonkey | Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 08:59 pm     Well I just lost the whole last part .. and it was alot. I am so tired of this happening. Well, what do I remember? Matt DID "handle" a fish while talking to Christy. Matt had the last confessional before TC. sorry.. there was so much more.. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 09:16 pm     I taped.. forgot.. Christy seems active in the bidding to me.. just conservative. She got up over $300 several times. I would like to point out that HEIDI bid the letter from home up higher than the amount Jenna has.. Heidi bid up to $200 and Christy out bid her so the complaints about Christy were TOTALLY BOGUS later on.. and heidi bid in the second letter auction too.. so why is Christy the villain. |
Pamy | Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 09:22 pm     WOW Sea!!! I think you better move to the east coast, you are great at the spoiling recaps!! |
Whit4you | Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 09:27 pm     This was a great show, but Survivor really ticks me off sometimes. You can say all you want that Christy had a choice about Jenna gettign food AND a letter... but really she didn't.. could she really have said "NO" at that point? So Jenna got food and then a letter. To have made that fair - since Christy still had plenty of money left, was to have put up one more food item. Period. For her to act like that because she couldn't get a letter from her mom? Excuse me she's the one who choose a Tv show and fame / or dollars over being with her mom at this point in time. When you've gone basically hungry for 30 days... food is very very very huge, and Christy didn't get any food and yet was forced in my opinion to let Jenna win more of an award than anyone else including her. Alex was a complete idiot for not waiting till one more of the other group was gone before confiding in Rob that they were going to screw Rob over. He should give Rob his vote should Rob make the final two, rather than vote against him for his own stupidity. Far as I'm concerned Rob has made this entire show - I haven't read the spoiler threads or boards so it's all suprising to me and he's the one who keeps it twising and turning. We could have had a pagong type thing going on from the 3rd or 4th episode but insted it keeps changing hands, thanks to Rob. For the first time ever there are 4 I would like to see win... and won't care which does (at least at this point) I guess in the order I'd like to see win but wouldn't be disappointed no matter what is: Christy Butch Rob Matt (although as far as 'deserving to win' I think Rob is the one who most deserves to win) |
Seamonkey | Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 09:37 pm     It did sound like Jenna said something to Christy who nodded and mouthed something but after Jenna sat down she looked away from Christy and I think the audible THANK YOU was to Jeff. OK.. after they returned with the letters JENNA says "when she outbid Heidi, I was like.. covers eyes.. HEIDI says "I didn't have any more" Then JENNA says "I was surprised that she did that, but not really" WTF?? Heidi had already outbid Jenna and she's questioning Heidi?? JENNA says "that's okay". Hermi.. Christy was signing away when she was telling about Jennifer, who wrote the letter to Christy, met her in High School.. neat.. part of the letter.. Jennifer says she hopes Christy is doing ok with the hearing people, if they are giving her any problems, there's a whole other world waiting for you when you come home" Christy says after 28 days it is such a good feeling to know there are people out there who lover her. "Maybe I can't trust anybody out here, but I can definitely trust people at home". Herm.. I want you to be able to see this.. Of course the Jenna letter gets the hoopla.. tumor shrunk by 50%.. wish it were more (ed) clouds, croc, boat.. .. Butch cleaning the fish.. Matt talking about Heidi, Jenna, Alex.. they should try to get Rob.. Butch doesn't want to rush it.. Matt says he has to approach Christy very delicately, she doesn't trust anyone, but he's had some good conversations with her. Butch said he had to get back, doesn't want the others seeing them talking this close. Clouds, moon, music, night vision camera, fire, sun, Rob and Alex.. Alex telling Rob at F4 if he or Rob get immunity, the immune one will vote the other male off.. Rob not pleased. Rob not impressed that he should just accept losing to three worthy players. Robs statement is that Heidi and Jenna will never vote against each other. I know I'm repeating but trying to catch more with the tape.. jaguar swims, croc hisses, sloth climbs, snake slithers. Treemail with the test booklets. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 09:51 pm     Christy and Rob each confess that the test questions really made them think about the nature of each person there. Rob takes Matt off for what Matt terms the most important conversation yet. Rob tells of Alex's hubris.. Matt thinks it is audacity for those four to assume they will be final four that they had wrapped it all up and it was just a matter of which one would win a million dollars. Rob suggests voting out Alex tomorrow, unless Alex wins immunity. Matt says he's thinking that way and says he gives his word.. they hold hands.. Matt tells Rob he will not betray Rob. Matt confesses that he does have a lot of survival skills but he's ignorant when it comes to the game. And says Rob has zero survival skills but knows the game inside and out.. Rob says to Matt he can get Christy, no problem, says Christy hates the other two girls and he thinks she hates Alex too. Then Rob confesses that he is very aware of the arrogance of his alliance, then says he doesn't think it will be very difficult to sway the opinions of the three people who are in this alliance (I think meaning C, B and M) He goes and smiles at Christy, she smiles sweetly, in back of her Heidi and Jenna loll about with snarky smiles.. Rob and Christy go off and talk about Alex. Rob confesses that Christy is a sweet girl but she does not fit in with this group, he feels that a lot of girls like Jenna and Heidi were very mean to Christy in her life. On their walk, Christy says she assumes that the four of you guys (don't know if she meant the males, maybe) will go to the end so she assumes she'll be going in the next 9 days. Rob tells Christy he doesn't trust Alex anymore, Alex has lied, changed his story. Christy asks if he wants to get Butch, Matt you and me to vote them off ? Rob says "Alex". Christy is down with that, says she doesn't think Alex plays fair Christy confesses that she's just fine with getting Alex out, "AAAAH!! I could care less about him .. he's just like drooling (sticks her tongue out) over Jenna and Heidi and its just.. like come ON! But then again can you really trust ROB? Is he trying to make us feel we have a chance or is he just trying to stir up something? |
Seamonkey | Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 10:00 pm     Immunity challenge. Nnot going to repeat unless I hear something good. Flag, music, croc, Alex and Heidi bathing, talking about time for Matt to go home.. physical threat. Also says to Rob that Matt knows he won't go past five.. snarky.. he should have tried a bit harder last night (for immunity) Rob weighing his options.. stay with his alliance or flip. Jenna says it is possible to play without hurting anyone in their group (how is that?) Matthew handling a fish, talking to Christy.. asks if she spoke to Rob.. Christy gives thumbs up.. Matt says keep it quiet.. smiles. Matt.. last confessional before TC.. tonight going to be a great night strong thing with Rob.. Rob is the lynchpin.. Rob can be very devious, has betrayed a number of people to get where he is today. TC Deena and Dave come in.. Heidi and Jenna with their little decorations, Jeff asks if that is wise to show themselves as a clicque.. seems ok. Matt says he started rough, now feels good. Heidi says first week was rough, still here, feeling good. Alex. still look good, smile, feeling pretty good.. Christy, now that you've weathered an entire month is it a piece of cake? Piece of cake she says.. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 10:05 pm     <break to watch ER> Christy looks adorable in nice thick braids Alex would be surprised if he was voted off Christy wouldn't Christy votes first, not shown Jenna votes, not shown Matt votes for ALEX, says, cross me once, ok, cross me twice, it's over. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 10:27 pm     His reign is over.. Heidi votes Butch votes Alex votes for Matt, too much of a threat Rob votes, not shown Votes ALEX ALEX Matteo MATT Matt ALEX ALEX various surprised and happy looks Jeff gleefully points out that some were surprised. Next week, on Survivor... One of you will win a visit with a loved one.. |
Spygirl | Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 11:05 pm     You guys just made my night! I missed the show and got brief text updates from Wargod so I could follow the highlights. Then, I came home to see the detailed spoiling in here! Sea, you should probably consider moving to the east or central time zones. We could take up a collection for moving expenses if you like. |
Happymom | Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 11:42 pm     This show just got a whole lot more interesting! I am so happy not to have to watch H/J/A doing no work, acting so arrogant, and voting off everyone else. It was really looking like it was going to be the H/J/A show, now we are back to Survivor! Yay! Great show tonight! |
Whoami | Friday, April 25, 2003 - 12:01 am     Rob really is the catalyst for making this the best Survivor. His lack of loyalty, and alliance jumping has ensured there will be no Pagonging this time around. |
Rissa | Friday, April 25, 2003 - 12:13 am     You are so right Whoami. When this survivor started, Rob reminded me of Josh from BB2.. a big goof. I figured he would try to backstab someone who was looking right at him in episode 1 and be gone before we got to know him. He has surprised me though, he really does seem to have a handle on how to deal with people and is playing this game surprisingly well. Kudos to Rob, thanks to him... next week's show could be the best yet. LOL |
Seamonkey | Friday, April 25, 2003 - 12:36 am     Especially if Heidi leaves.. definitely best ever!! |
Jasper | Friday, April 25, 2003 - 06:13 am     Just my little rant, and I apologize if it has been said before, but I was apalled at how Jenna behaved tonight. And Alex, they were all so smug! And for Jenna to comment on how she couldn't beleive Christy would outbid her! Oh the audacity of Christy to cross the "pretty girls"! She also at one point said how it is possible to play this game and win without hurting anyone's feelings...um I think in her mind she is just referring to her "friends" versus all the Survivors. As well her little tantrum that is going on next week at Rob about how selfish he is etc and how he is out for himself, uh duh, does she think that this should be a group effort to win Jenna the $1M? The stunned looks on her and Heidi's face when Alex FINALLY got the boot were pricelss. Oh heavens they may actually have to particpate in the game now instead of just skating along assuming everyone else would carry them to the finals and then there would just be her and Heidi, cause of course if would be Heidi's mission to win the immunity and pick her to go along. Where do these chicks get off? I'm not surprised to hear she is an only child and spends evenings with her mom and dad. She probably has no friends and her parents have led her to believe she is the centre of the universe. <removed for spoiling> As well I agree that Christy had no alternative but to agree to auction another letter, she should have gotten compensated for her efforts though, maybe with that lasagna. If she had of said no, that would have meant further alienation of her by the "highschool" crowd, and that analogy by Alex was perfect. Now it's time he gives his head a shake and realizes he's not 20 anymore and you can't treat people like crap without consequences. ie boot your a$$ outta there. His whole manner with the food etc was so incredibly obnoxious. I was glad to see Rob come clean, yes I know it was all about him and saving his behind that he did it. And Matt definitely threw him the bone for that immunity although Alex et al did not seem to see that... All in all one of the best eps so far, please please please let's have a final four without the skinny girls! The others are so much more deserving just for having put up with some of the egos out there. Ok I'm done. (M) |
Weenerlobo | Friday, April 25, 2003 - 06:47 am     This was an awesome show! One of the best in a long time of plastic Survivors. It fulfills my sense of right and wrong that Alex got booted out. I can only hope that Heidi and Jenna are next. Seeing them all entwined and laying around and ignoring Christy just gets my blood boiling!!!! High school, high school, high school, high school. Bleck. |
Moderator | Friday, April 25, 2003 - 06:55 am     Thread being closed now. Please continue discusions in either the SPOILING THREAD or the NON SPOILING THREAD Thank you. |
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