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Webkitty

Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 07:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow, thanks Herm. Geeze Louise, are they good!
If Joanna goes next, it would (sort of) put ChillOne back on track. He did say that she was third voted off. Poor ChillOne, lol.

Hermione69

Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 07:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think CO may have general information as opposed to specifics. Didn't we figure him to pick Daniel, Ryan, Joanna and Janet by the descriptions? He may get them, but in the wrong order. I think they need to cut him some slack over at Sux. There was a language barrier and several weeks had passed since the first group of boots. I doubt the locals memorized it.

I don't think Joanna is going to be the one compared to Jerri because if Joanna does go soon, as many spoilers believe, she won't really have had time to establish that reputation. I'm not sure the Jerri woman has been revealed to us yet. Goodness, I hope it is not Christy!!

Webkitty

Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 08:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
CO said that Daniel went first, then Ryan, then Joanna, then a woman around 30. (I am guessing Jeanne)
He didn't know the middle boots, but the final 4 (according to his intel) were Christy, a young man with a muscular build and tight? hair, possibly with a side part (Matthew?) an older male,(Butch, imo) and a younger woman who was not considered hot in the beginning, but by the end she was (I'm saying this is Jenna, going on record)

I agree that if Joanna goes next week, there won't be time for her to be the Jerri of this year. Ummm, I'm not picking up bad vibes from Jenna yet, but it could be her. Darn! I wanted to like her for some reason.

Hermione69

Friday, February 21, 2003 - 04:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
TDT has beefed up their predictions from last night. They have Christy down as a possibility now, but they still think it will be Joanna. Shawna in the relatively near future based on Snewser's feeling that she doesn't make the jury, but they don't really see how that will happen and they sound skeptical.

FYI, thanks to Hippyt, I learned Snewser actually spoiled the Bachelorette ending and seems to be the only person in the spoiling industry that did so. All other leaks that I am aware of pointed to Charlie, but Snewser posted on his web site before the show that she was going to pick Ryan. He credited a source in the industry. He's still pretty credible in the spoiling world, despite TDT's scoop last season.

Gina8642

Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 06:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't want to say it, because I don't want it to be true ---- but....

I think the women lose immunity in Episode 3

Why do I think this?

1. Promos:
It is clear from some of the promo's and various spoilers that the men and women get to ask some questions to each other in either the RC or IC of ep. 3.

2. Jeff P. clues
-Jeff spoke in interviews about thinking it (the RC or IC mentions above) was like the 'dating game' or something like that.
-He said this is one of the most entertaining episodes.
-He said he asked at tribal council the men's opinions of the women.
-He said he asked at tribal council the women's opinions of the men.

Conclusion?

We've already seen the guys talk about the woment at tribal council, but not the other way around. There was no men talk at Ep 2's tribal council and it would make sense that these kinds of questions from Jeff would come right after interactions (i.e., next TC after Question challange). So, I think it's the women's turn give their opinions on the guys at TC.


I put this here and not in Ep 3's thread 'cause I'm worried people might not want to see spoilers there.

Hermione69

Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 06:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
•Apparently Snewser claims to have a ton of information on Shawna that proves she does NOT make the jury. I can't quite see how that plays out.

•It looks like Ryan made a slip in one of his interviews and said something along the lines of, "If I hadn't been first, I might've been fourth" which many believe means the men will win the next 2 ICs (one of which they have) and then the women will win the fourth IC.

•I'm also here to remind myself that there are other spoiler on Christy's longevity other than COs because right now all I can see is a bulls eye on her! She was reported to have been on the same tribe as men at one point and she made a comment that the TCs get easier after the first one. Remember Clay's comment last season about the challenges staying hard to the end? Sometimes those little slips will give huge clues.

•The guy at Sux that knows Heidi has continued to insist that she and Christy are still at odds today. I've been mulling over that and here are some thoughts that occurred to me:
-The one survivor caught in the middle between young and old in the next episode is very likely Christy and the women because the men's ages don't split up that well. I believe that Joanna will be next because I don't think they can stand that Idol business and also there are absolutely no longevity spoilers out on her. So that leads me to think Christy must align with the younger women which should create a small bond, at least with that group. So why the dislike? A later betrayal? Christy and Heidi are both predicted to be in the final 6 by Snewser (and final 5 by CO, for what that is worth). That would indicate something is okay with them unless they went on opposite alliances at the merge and neither alliance really got the upper hand.
-Or, like I said, a betrayal? CO asserts Heidi is voted out first. (of course, his order hasn't been that reliable yet, but I'm cutting him slack for now because I doubt the locals memorized the early boots. Over a month had passed after those boots by the time CO got to the locals.) In the final five situation, maybe Christy was a swing vote and caused Heidi's boot. This is all huge speculation, of course.

•I'm still puzzled about Jenna. There is conflicting info out about her longevity. Snewser puts her in the middle area.

•You know what would be hilarious? If Heidi and Christy end being buddies and the info Heidi is feeding her friend at home is deliberately misleading. This poster at Sucks who knows Heidi hasn't really convinced me that he is close enough to her that she would spill details on the game to him. I believe him for the weight loss spoiler more than anything. The poster says Heidi and a friend on the tribe, who he believes is Jenna, go far. Wouldn't that be funny if it ended up being Christy who is the friend? From what I have read about Heidi, I can actually see her doing this!

•Rob and Heidi both have longevity spoilers. I really can't wait to see the interaction between those two because Rob has such a huge crush on her!

•Butch, Deena and Matthew have huge weight loss spoilers. I knowt this is repetitive from some earlier posts of mine, but the weight loss spoilers always bear repeating, IMHO.

•Snewser has his final 6 for now as Butch, Deena, Matthew, Christy, Rob and Heidi. IF this comes true, I wonder how they will be aligned? A lot of people think Butch is going to take Christy under his wing. They think that "Silence is Golden" comment was foreshadowing one way or another. Then we have Rob who thinks Heidi is so hot. Do you think Heidi could manipulate that attraction to get him in an alliance?

Just rambling on a rainy Saturday morning... Thanks for bearing with me.

Seamonkey

Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 06:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This is just a simple list to see who has what in common..

Jenna
21, single
zeta crown

Shawna
23, single
soccer ball

Christy
24, single
sage

Heidi
24, single
jumprope

JoAnna
31, single, 1 son
picture of her mom

Deena
35, married, 2 sons
water balloons

Jeanne
41, married, 3 kids (2 daughter, 1 son?)
massage oil

Janet
47, married, 2 daughters
daughter's teddy bear

So the five youngest are also single, but JoAnna has a child..

The oldest three are married (but Janet is gone) and the oldest four have children.

One would have thought JoAnna would have the best ability to relate in all directions, but from her actions and her bio, her born-again status overrides most issues for her.

Seamonkey

Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 06:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
From Janet's chat, she said that there was a clear alliance between Jenna, Shawna, Heidi and Deena.. which isn't the 4 youngest.. they excluded JoAnna and Christy.. so, maybe the age split is in the men's tribe?

Another Janet comment, that Deena came in with the most "testosterone"... hmm.

Hermione69

Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 07:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I read about that, Seamonkey. It made me pause. What I was wondering is maybe Deena is offended by the booby alliance and takes herself out of that group?

In the men's tribe we have:

Butch and Roger 50+
Matthew and Alex 30s
Rob, Dave and Daniel 20s

So it is hard to draw a line down the center with the men. How do you see them splitting by age if this is indeed the case?

Gina8642

Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 03:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I always keep in mind. The editors will only allow us to clearly see alliances that somehow fail. Secure alliances that never waiver (a la Tina and Colby or Ethan/Tom/Lex) are at best only hinted at...

Webkitty

Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 07:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
FYI: Snewser has posted the rest of ChillOne's amazon pics at Survivornews.net. They include two shots of his passport.

You can read how this came about at SS in the ChillOne spoiler thread, starting at 6:14AM with ChillOne, on the 21st and ending at 10:15PM that night with Snewser.

Bottom line is, Snewser thinks ChillOne actually was at the location spot when he said he was, and the pics are not altered via Photoshop, etc.
He also thinks that ChillOne did not get good "intel" when he was there, since his boot order has been off. Not a hoax, but not a realible source for boot order either.
Note: ChillOne has always maintained that he was more certain of his final four intel than at the start of the game.

Another tidbit I picked up at SS. In the speculation threads, someone is claiming that he knows a dj that has interviewed Dan's mom a few times, and she says that CBS told her to keep her mouth shut (since she went to the papers with his malaria) until after this Thursday. IF this is true, it means he goes this Thursday. Grain of salt. Unless TDT comes out with a different scenario for this Thursday, I tend to discount this, but thought I would let you all know its "out" there.

Hermione69

Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 09:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
From Sucks.

**For the person who asked... here is an excerpt from an article by MANUEL MENDOZA / The Dallas Morning News, as posted by ShowMeTheWinner:

Quote:
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Early "spoilers" – Web-speak for stories and chat-room discussions that give away plot points in advance – had Shawna Mitchell, 23, and Alex Bell, 32, coupling up and making it to the end of the game. Lately, some Survivor sites have been predicting they'll have early exits.
For his part, Mr. Probst found them charming but says they should watch out for 24-year-old phys-ed teacher Heidi Strobel, whose sweet-and-innocent act he doesn't buy.

"I think Heidi is a major player. Heidi is determined. Heidi overcomes any deficiencies she has. ... I don't trust her." **

WOW!

Hippyt

Monday, February 24, 2003 - 01:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ok,I'm bored,and have been obsessing over this photo. It's Jeanne high-fiving WHO? It looks like a man's arm,and I believe it was taken during the RC. Why would she be high-fiving a man? I looked at the guys pics,and couldn't find a band like that on any of them,but some of their wrists aren't show.Is she being high-fived because the women won the reward,or is she high-fiving someone else(a man) for winning the reward. Anyhoo,Who's arm is this?
Jeanne

Emt911

Monday, February 24, 2003 - 01:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is anyone left-handed? Mostly people wear their watch on the opposite hand--myself excluded! I'm a leftie who wears my watch on my left wrist. I have people tell me all the time that I am wearing it on my 'wrong' wrist!

Gina8642

Monday, February 24, 2003 - 01:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Emt911 - I used to get that too. The watch thing. Wore it on my right arm. People always thought that meant I was left handed and I'm not. I did switch, my watch was always getting destroyed.

In this screen shot the arm looks alot darker than Jeanne's. Maybe it is JoAnna? It could just be the lighting...

Grannyg

Monday, February 24, 2003 - 01:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe it's not a watch but some sort of band that maybe the "kids" gave Dad, or girlfriend gave boyfriend!! I agree with Emt that most of the time the watch goes on the opposite arm but if its just a band of some sort then it would be on the other arm. Do they get to have watches????? Surely not!!

Kaili

Monday, February 24, 2003 - 01:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Based on the darker skin, it could be Joanna. She is very muscular, so I would guess it is her arm.

Grooch

Monday, February 24, 2003 - 01:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Could it be a buff and not a watch on the arm?

I was thinking it was Joanna's arm also.

Kaili

Monday, February 24, 2003 - 02:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jeanne also has something around her wrist- maybe it has to do with the challenge (like when they have to tie themselves together, etc.

Gina8642

Monday, February 24, 2003 - 02:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL

I bet dollars to donuts that is just a scrunchie (I know I can't spell, but I mean a hair band).

They've been trying to figure that one out at SS all day. I nearly signed up for an account just to say it. Finally someone figured it out. I don't know if anyone believes the poster or not. Do they have all men posting overthere?

Hippyt

Monday, February 24, 2003 - 02:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think I found the answer.This pic may be too big. Maybe the women win RC this week.
1,jaburu

Tabbyking

Monday, February 24, 2003 - 02:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
on the gal in the hat, it definitely looks like a scrunchy. am i making it up, or do i remember butch wearing something on his arm? they probably can't have watches, but that may have just been on big brother where i am remembering that.

Texannie

Monday, February 24, 2003 - 02:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
EMT, I am a lefty who wears her watch on my left hand too. My dad who is a lefty is always telling me I am wearing it on the wrong arm! Who made up that rule???? Where is it written??

Hippyt

Monday, February 24, 2003 - 02:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Let me do that again...
jaburu

Tabbyking

Monday, February 24, 2003 - 02:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
if you look closely at the picture, you see the tiny little legs and a tiny little arm of a tiny little person under the "TE" in entertainment. i think someone gets downsized this episode. lol