Little Things That Are Driving You Crazy
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Ginger | Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 09:29 am     Hi everyone! This is my first time starting a thread. I thought we could use this as a place to discuss, well...the little things that are driving you, me, all of us, CRAZY. Here is my latest thing: On last week's episode it was mentioned several times that Deanna is "older" than the rest of her tribe. She mentioned it, her tribemates mentioned it, and I think even Jeff brought it up. Others were referred to as "the younger" folks. Yes, it is true that Deanna is technically the oldest on her tribe, but I would not say she is older in any practical way. She is 35. Matt is 33 and Alex is 32. That makes the three of them essentially the same age in my mind. Jenna and Shawna are 21 and 23 respectively, and I would say they are the same age as well. (Sorry, I don't know how old Rob is.) So why, despite the fact that Alex and Matt are a decade older than Jenna and Shawna, do they get to be called "young" and Deanna, who is only a couple of years older than Matt and Alex, set aside in her own age category? Why does this bother me? I guess because I think it has something to do with sexism. Because she is a woman and not considered "hot" by her fellow Survivors she is treated like she's a) invisible and/or b) so much older that she's somehow not in the same category as the people who like to think of themselves as young and cool. Anyone else notice this? What do you make of it? Any other things that drive you nuts, please share it with us! Ginger |
Alaginger | Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 10:26 am     Hey Ginger, It's the other Ginger (LOL). I can see why that drives you nuts. I think Deena is OLDER than the rest of her tribe, but in a different way than they mentioned. She is married and has two children.....so a lot more experience in the part of our World. She is a DA, so working in that type of environment will mature you PRONTO!!! She is definitely more level-headed than anybody on her current or previous team .... which shows a lot of maturity. So, even though the other people on the show, including JP, say she is older and mean in age.......I say she is older, and mean it with respect because she is older in so many other ways!!! Now, for what bugs me. I hate it that some of the guys, especially Rob, use the male/female thing on the show in a degrading manner. Once they mingle, if some gal puts herself in that type of limelight .... go for it. But Rob was spouting off about it when the two tribes had never co-mingled. They got off a boat and went two different ways, and right away Rob is saying things like, "Who can I get to kiss me" and "I'll do favors for somebody who will bathe topless", etc., etc., etc..........that's what really bothers me. |
Seamonkey | Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 12:13 pm     It bugs me, here and on the show and elsewhere that CHRISTY is not considered one of the younger ones.. she is 24. I think MB and JP have stressed the opposite sex thing that people like Rob are encouraged to spout off that sort of swill.. not that it is against his nature tho.. bothers me too. And some of the women feed right into that.. sigh. |
Llkoolaid | Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 02:23 pm     What bothers me is that girls are such idiots. Meaning Heidi, Shawna and Jenna. They think they are using their bodies to get further along. Sure these guys are going to look and use them and then when it gets down to it, it will be the old boys club as usual. Heidi is the worst one. Heidi reminds me of Skelator, what is hot about fake boobs stuck on a rack of ribs. Gross. I think Christy and yes Deena are getting better looking while the "pretty girls" are looking pretty haggard. Christy and Deena are gaining respect and will go further than the "pretty Girls". I used to watch Survivor with my daughter, but I don't think she will be watching next week. EXposing yourself to get what you want is not a message I think she needs to learn. |
Happymom | Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 02:30 pm     I am not certain, but during tribal council I thought JP did say something about Deena not being a member of the younger part of the tribe. I thought she then said something like "Fortunately, I am part of this young group." If this is how it went...I say...way to go Deena! |
Car54 | Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 02:36 pm     If the spoilers are right, one stupid little girl will ride this all the way to F2. Dang it, come on Deena! |
Catfat | Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 04:47 pm     I want my grand-daughter to watch with me next week so she will see that exposing a rack of ribs with jello bags hanging on the front will NOT get her anywhere. |
Llkoolaid | Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 08:44 am     Good point Catfat, I'll have to rethink that. |
Ginger | Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 12:14 pm     I agree with all the things that you've all said drive you crazy! Alaginger, what you mentioned really gets to me too...I think in general the men have spoken in really degrading ways about the women. But on the other hand, Lilkoolaid, I think the women--at least the three self proclaimed "cute girls"--are really behaving badly. That was a HUGE disappointment for me. I so wanted to see a very cool women's tribe. Seamonkey, that thing where Christy is not included in the young crowd gets to me too. It's like Deanna and Christy get lumped into this "boring" category simply because they have some substance to their personalities and they don't rely on their looks to win them (false) power. What else? Ginger |
Ginger1218 | Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 04:07 pm     Ok, and this is another Ginger I can't stand Heidi and her attitude against older woman and about the whole body image thing. She only thinks the young hot body chicks are worth anything. She makes obnoxious comments about the other women. |
Ginger | Monday, March 24, 2003 - 07:19 am     You're so right, Ginger1218. I'd say that Heidi's attitude towards other women's bodies is the thing that drives me the MOST crazy on this season of Survivor. Of course her attitude says far more about how she feels about her own body than it does about others. I do hope she gains some insight on this issue soon...for her own good. Ginger |
Tabbyking | Monday, March 24, 2003 - 07:44 am     this is tabbygingerking, lol heidi, what can we say about heidi? i hear my mother's voice and it is saying, "if you can't say something nice...", so i will have to give heidi a tiny break! just this once!! i am irritated by some of the editing! i am trying to figure out why, for example, rob can't stand matthew, because they haven't shown us anything that would make him disliked on that level. matt catches the most fish for sure. (i am thinking maybe some of matt's come-on to shawna was to bug alex. now that shawna is gone, alex won't want matt to go and be alone with her! maybe it was a type of 'insurance'?! just a thought! oh yeah, and shawna's immaculate recovery did make her the cutest of the cute gals!) i would liked to have seen a conversation where jeanne and heidi had to explain to roger,butch, and dave why their old tribe had pretty much excluded christy--not just as a player, but as a person! let them squirm and feel uncomfortable! what kind of reason would they have given? i would like to see this surviiivor become more like surviiivor and less like 'temptation island'. sometimes i think central casting for the younger gals and guys is straight out of the beast of the BELLYS!!! i know there are some bright young people out there, but all we see from some of these shows are 'horndogs'. wouldn't it be cool to have a surviiivor where no one under 30 was allowed, just once? i would like to see if they still resort to 'sexual attraction' as a ploy? i absolutely loved christy beating jenna twice on the log event!! |
Auntiemike | Monday, March 24, 2003 - 01:01 pm     Tabby: just a small point regarding age and sexual attraction. Remember that "older" woman on Big Brother, last episode, who had the boob job. She sure thought life was all about looks! (o.k., o.k., so I'm "older" and endowed in all the wrong places!) Bah humbug. ;-) |
Tabbyking | Monday, March 24, 2003 - 01:50 pm     you mean tonya! shudder.... she was 35 in years, i think, but 14 in maturity! i guess i should have been more specific about the 'mental' age!! lol i think tonya on survivor would be just like having heidi on survivor! give us 16 assorted deena and butch types, throw in a spunky christy--who is mature beyond her years....and see what a decent group of people act like! |
Gina8642 | Monday, March 24, 2003 - 02:22 pm     Little things that are driving me crazy: -My job -My coworkers -My supervisor -My mother -My sister -My other sister -The weather -People dying in Iraq -The media getting crazy over the fact that soldiers sometimes die during wars. Ok, maybe those aren't such little things. Things that are driving me crazy on Survivor?? The promos making moutains out of mole hills -The 'love triangle' of Alex/Matt/Shawna?? Bearly there. -The injury that changed the entire attitude of Tambaqui?? Didn't happen, they only showed it becuase they knew they had to explain the bandage on Alex's forehead. -One survivor refuses to work?? Heidi only said she was gonna take a nap. As much as I dislike Heidi at times, that wasn't a refusal to work. 'nuff said |
Pamy | Monday, March 24, 2003 - 03:25 pm     The thing that is driving me crazy this year is that there is not a lot of posting in the threads until the day of or day after the show. |
Catfat | Monday, March 24, 2003 - 04:18 pm     The thing that drives me crazy is that all the plastic bottles which products come in, such as shampoo, lotion, eyedrops, windex, you name it are all top heavy. This is because the manufacturers want you to think you are getting more stuff inside than you really are so they make the bottles tall and slender with huge caps. You line the bottles up nicely and one little bump and they fall like dominos. Small thing maybe, but each time all my stuff falls over AGAIN I think of straws and camels. Amajor war is nothing compared with this. ;-) |
Tabbyking | Monday, March 24, 2003 - 06:05 pm     the thing that drives me crazy is i have to cook for an elk's lodge installation this sunday and i don't know whether there will be 50 or 100 people that i have to cook chinese chicken salad, wonton soup, eggrolls, fried wontons, fried rice, and fortune cookies for! okay, the cookies come in a bag, but do i get 50 chicken breasts or 100 chicken breasts? oh yeah, and as someone else said, the promos that are duds when we get to the actual show! |
Hermione69 | Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 06:24 am     I think I have gotten used to the promos that are duds, LOL! What drives me crazy? Rob does with the way he feeds right into the stereotype of men who think with their you-know-what. Heidi and Jenna do with their perceptions of themselves. BTW, Pamy, for you, I am making an effort to post in a lot of threads today! |
Ginger | Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 08:03 am     Great post Tabbygingerking! I was also wondering where the hostility towards Matt from Rob was coming from. We didn't see any of it. We've heard Matt say that he was something of an outsider because he was friends with the first two voted off, but other than that we haven't seen anything about Matt being disliked. What I would have GIVEN to see Jeanne and Heidi explain their behavior towards Christy. Actually, I want to se ALL the women do this--except for the first woman voted off, who was very nice to Christy. Can't recall her name. I love everyone's "driving me crazy" list. I suppose I should have added "about Survivor" in my title! Ginger |
Auntiemike | Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 08:51 am     It's almost Wednesday and Shawna does not have a big "X" on her yet. What's up? |
Plumeriamyst | Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 10:46 am     Jeanne still doesn't either...... *nagging* |
Squaredsc | Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 11:10 am     im going crazy cause its tuesday and i don't know how to vote. |
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