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Seamonkey

Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 06:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That would be quite gratifying.. Heidi getting "stoned", so-to-speak.

Hermione69

Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 06:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ROFLMAO, Seamonkey!

Auntiemike

Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 06:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
that might explain the shocked look on her face. It would also be a surprise. Might make Rob sit up and decide, once and for all, which way he is going to "complete" this game. Gosh, I hate waiting until Thursday.

Alaginger

Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 06:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Auntie.......don't put too much into the shocked look picture of Heidi. As I stated somewhere up above, those two pictures I posted of Heidi and Rob at TC have been proven over at Survivor Fever to have been from the Ep9 TC. I wouldn't put it past the promo people to have also taken the JP picture from another episode, and blacked out the sign to tease us. And then it might just be a purple-rock scenario or something they aren't giving us any pictures of.

Hermione69

Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 06:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Why are we so sure this is the family member episode? Couldn't the "opportunity of a lifetime" be something similiar to Colby's trip to the Great Barrier Reef? That is the opportunity of a lifetime. It's the wording again. I would expect it to be worded more emotionally. "Opportunity of a lifetime" is just kind of grand sounding, not emotional. What am I missing? Why do we know it is this episode? The pictures from RC? I can't remember.

Not only that, would they really have the family member visit right after the letters from home? Wouldn't it make more sense to wait another episode?

Just something that popped into my brain.

Auntiemike

Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 06:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Ginger...it's so hard to keep all this in perspective. You'd think I would need another life...but, alas, I have one. I guess my hubby and four kids just need to wait until Survivor is over to have my full attention.

I really, really appreciate all your writings and input. You are way too dedicated for me...I just ride along on your coattails and lurk a lot.

Pamy

Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 06:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hermie..in the previews JP says one person will get a visit with a family member, that is why I am so sure, lol!

Alaginger

Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 06:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hermie......this is where the "loved one" thing is coming from.
VoiceOver - Episode 11 Promo #1:
JP: Things start to get ugly at Jacare...
Jenna: You don't care about personal relationships you just care about yourself.
Rob: Please feel free to write R-O-B on your parchment tomorrow night.
JP: ...until a reward challenge changes the mood.
JP <to Survivors>: One of you will win a visit from your loved one.

Auntie.......you can ride on my coattails all you want to.......however, there are a lot of coattails on this board that are going a lot further than I seem to be making it. I'm doing okay, though. By the way, I'm retired from aerospace and never had time for all of this fun before. This spoiling stuff is a real treat for me.

Hermione69

Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 06:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Csnog, I have been meaning to comment on your observation re: Jeff and Jenna. He certainly has nicer things to say about Jenna in interviews than he does Heidi, although if she is in the F2, that may be damage control! As far the the PB and chocolate comment, he may have just been flashing back wistfully to when they got naked for it, LOL!

Hermione69

Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 06:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, I would say that means the loved ones visit, LOL! Thanks, Alaginger, and Pamy!

Hermione69

Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 06:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
(The previews are never captioned so I never hear the voiceovers and must have passed right by them as reported in these threads! LOL!)

Pamy

Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 06:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh Hermie I didn't realize that!! Next week we will be sure and post them for ya!

Alaginger

Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 07:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hermie.....you need to put Survivor Fever in your favorite places because they highlight the voice-overs each week. Here's the link to the right page for that.........
http://www.survivorfever.net/spoilers_speculation.html#vid_cap_spoilers

Kaili

Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 07:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I haven't read back through all of this weekends posts really, but....

A few potential shocker situations for TC...

1. The family member votes/is the tie breaker
2. The jury casts the tie breaking vote

Csnog

Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 08:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What if it's simply a matter of whoever is voted out turns and yells at the remaining survivors that they voted her/him out because it was just "sour grapes"?

Most of the time the voted member out just say's bye and good luck you guys or nothing at all.

Clp

Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 08:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
CBS Press release


Quote:

Network Update Press Release - Episode 11


ALLIANCE IS JUST AN EIGHT LETTER WORD, ON "SURVIVOR: THE AMAZON," THURSDAY, MAY 1, ON THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK

"Sour Grapes? ? As trust in one another crumbles, no castaway has a true understanding of where they stand within the tribe, on SURVIVOR: THE AMAZON, Thursday, May 1 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

One castaway betrays another by telling the entire tribe of that person's plan to vote out a supposed ally. Another castaway vows to make everyone else miserable, which may ultimately lead to their own demise. Meanwhile, one castaway makes an incredible sacrifice to benefit the rest of the tribe, but a close ally suggests the generous act may actually backfire. And the eleventh person is voted out of the tribe.





I am now wondering if Matt gets the option to overnight with his family OR let everyone visit with their family but only for one hour or something. The sacrifice made to benefit the rest of the tribe fits this scenario.

Clp

Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 09:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
New vid caps!

matt & butch
tribe running
butch
rob in boat
rob's plate
shattered
christy
matt
heidi

It is interesting to note that in picture 2 (with the tribe running) the clothes are different from picture 7 (Christy, with Jenna in the background). It looks like the plate shattering might be the immunity challenge. Matt would seem to be a lock for this one.

Theowl

Monday, April 28, 2003 - 08:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
OK, Ijust saw a promo for Thurs. show, and it showed, all separatly, Heide, Jenna and Rob. It said something about a really big surprise at TC. I think the vote will go:

Heide and Jenna-Rob
Rob and Matt-Jenna
Christy and Butch-Heide

Three way tie, but how it's decided, I have no idea. JP does give them a chance to change their minds and vote a second time. Maybe r/m/c/b have it planned ahead who and how to change their vote in case of a tie. Therefore, Heide is buh-bye!! PLEASE!!

Csnog

Monday, April 28, 2003 - 09:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
My problem with a tie is that Rob makes sure about everything before TC. This leads me to think that whoever is voted out will cause a scene.

Hermione69

Monday, April 28, 2003 - 09:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi TheOwl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Okay, I was thinking the big surprise was just going to be a lot of nothing, but so many people commenting on it have me reevaluating my thoughts. I still can't really see a tie happening if only because of Rob not risking it, but I like your scenario!

Really big surprise... maybe the loved ones are invited to the TC??

Eh, it probably is a tie. I'm just being argumentative. :)

Hermione69

Monday, April 28, 2003 - 09:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oooh, I spoke too soon! Csnog and I agree about the tie! I just can't see Rob letting it happen. Way too risky.

No tie. What is the exact wording of the voiceover for the TC? Does it actually say "really big surprise" or has that been our interpretation of it?

Theowl

Monday, April 28, 2003 - 09:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Herm, I'm pretty sure it said really big surprise. Also, as far as Rob letting it happen, yesterday at 2:03, WebKitty posted about the hunger and fatigue getting to them. I'm sure Robs mind is soooo full of the game and is bouncing off his skull. He's done so well so far, his brain should be turning to mush pretty soon. Also, all he can do is try to convince others to follow him. Maybe he's taught them a few little tricks, too.

Another thing that has been bugging me. I've read most of the posts in this clubhouse (LOL) so maybe I missed someone mentioning this, but, Does Matt remind anyone else of Arnold Swartzinigher (sp)???? Everytime is see him, I expect to hear his accent. Please, someone say you see a resemblance!! Or am I really crazy?? Note: I can not STAND A.S. but I do like Matt.

Hermione69

Monday, April 28, 2003 - 10:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Webkitty's scenarios are usually right on target far more often than mine. She is much more objective than I am! I tend to try to interpret to get the ending that I want or I analyze their behavior as if they owuld behave like me, LOL! A tie probably is very possible. The majority seems to think so and the majority is usually right. That would certainly be a big surprise! I'm still saying "No" but that's just because I am stubborn!

Maybe there is a Schwarzeneger resemblance in the smile!

Webkitty

Monday, April 28, 2003 - 10:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yep Owl, Rob is only human, after all. He hasn't received the food rewards some of the others have, and his brain has been in overdrive since day one.

"One casatway betrays another by telling the entire tribe of that person's plan to vote out a supposed ally"

I am guessing that Rob goes to H/J and throws them a bone, proposing to force a tie to vote out Matt. Maybe he feels he HAS to do this because Matt has come out publicly against him. There is a spoiler that says Matt and Rob have a big confrontation. I won't go into it right now because for the most part, its been de-bunked, but it could happen.

Anyway, it backfires on him and instead of taking the deal, Jenna and/or Heidi tell on him.
I still say that Christy will want J or H GONE. She won't care about Rob's actions. Butch has shown no love of H/J either. I think they will still vote for Heidi (because Jenna wins the IC, or whatever, it doesn't really matter) Rob will vote for Heidi too.
But Matt, he will take it personally. If you read the Insider, he had some scathing words for Alex when he voted him off, and Alex did nothing compared to Rob.
I STILL say although Matt has shown some game playing skills recently, he is not the master player some think he is. His voting for Rob would be emotional, and he wouldn't know about all the ramifications of a tie. Maybe he figures Rob or Heidi, either one gone is good. Maybe he feels confident he can win the next immunity and get rid of Rob next time. This is still soooo risky, but I can see him doing it.

Like Brian and other Survivors have said, this point in the game is crucial. Huge mistakes happen. They take things personaly by this point. They are all exhausted and hungry and miss their families and friends.

Unless there are major ugly words at TC, I can't see it shocking unless there is a tie. jmo

Micknrc

Monday, April 28, 2003 - 11:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wait guys, the other cbs clue says who it is:
"Still stung by Rob's betrayal of the alliance, an enraged Jenna tells the entire tribe about Rob's secret plans, revealing his strategies to everyone. Will Jenna's revelations turn the tribe against Rob? "