Archive through February 21, 2003
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Archive through February 21, 2003
Squaredsc | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 11:35 am     oh yeah alicia is my fav survivor and i hope that she is still doing well. |
Pamy | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 11:42 am     I give Square 2 snaps up!! |
Moondance | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 11:55 am     3 snaps & a bonus! I understand what you are saying SquareCrazy! I grew up in the southern bible belt ... sure didn't take a person's skin color to make the fanatical! I hope me saying Joanne was acting fanatical and a bit hypocritical was offense but if she was Aubergine I would still have to say it Alicia ROCKED! Love her! |
Queenofnorway | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 12:28 pm     I fully expect to be blown out of the water here, but I don't think the producers should have chosen Cristy for the show. Her handicap is a danger to her and everyone else and puts the other women in the position of not seeming to care. Many deaf people do many things, but being in a dark jungle isn't one of them. If they're on the trail and somethin dangerous is around, she couldn't hear the warnings. Now she's starting to whine and cry. The program isn't about how a handicapped person can make it in the jungle. It's a contest. |
Tashakinz | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 12:32 pm     Does anyone else read a "booby girls" alliance in the votes last night? |
Squaredsc | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 12:34 pm     lol moonie. i can forgive almost anything if someone likes aubergine. queen (can i call you that?), it never really dawned on me about the dangers at night. but im sure she was aware of that in the beginning. i think she's seen survivor before? and she is an adventure, oh what's the term, oh guide, and adventure guide so im sure she knew the physical risks. but even in the city there are dangers like for the blind and they don't let their disability stop them. i am respectifully disagreeing. so queen, how do you feel about aubergine?  |
Seamonkey | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 12:35 pm     {{{Squared}}} I don't blame you for wanting to see more variety. I also wish you could have seen the confrontation yourself because taking others' readings just doesn't do it, I know. I think the confrontational, in-you-face, finger waving bit probably works better within a group that is used to it, but isn't terribly helpful outside that group. Just as Christy's bluntness probably isn't nearly as effective outside her group (and I'm not meaning that either group is homogenous.. I'm not deaf but I'm blunt, I'm sure there are white fingerwaving in your face women who would groove on that.. ) I had a co-worker from Trinidad who was black and she often just shook her head and was heard to say "American blacks!" while rolling her eyes, because her style was very different.. neither style being all right or all wrong. If Joanna had run over and confronted Christy and then stopped and listened to Christy that would have been different, but to continue ranting loudly (when loudness was not going to help) and then to refuse to accept that it was minutely possible that they might have both had something to do with the bad feelings, as Christy was saying, and then the ridiculous statement about Christy being in HER face.. those pushed things way over the line for me.. And if it is true that Joanna's holding onto the hating and expecting that she shouldn't get over it and communicate with all of her team members, then she should go soon because she's a team liability.. and I suspect that none of the others want to trip her switch. But, I really do understand the frustration. One problem is that it is really difficult for any one person on a reality show to represent a whole group. Think of that short lived show where the families were competing for the house in Figi.. I can't imagine that many white men were too happy seeing the actions of the one father (the one who obviously wanted to goad others). Sigh, of all the J names, they had to boot Janet, who was the most recognizable of them.. She seems like a nice woman.. |
Seamonkey | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 12:40 pm     I think the teams must deal with whatever, or whoever, is thrown into the mix. And Christy is part of the mix. They need to communicate with her and it isn't at all impossible. Fairness isn't part of the equation. Blind people run marathons, or climb mountains, more power to them and yes, they need some accommodations. Survivor is contratictory and yes, they have to be in it to win individually, but they cannot succeed at that unless they can also be part of a team that wins as well. |
Squaredsc | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 12:41 pm     yep sea, and i think if it wasn't for the jeanne thing then janet may have lasted past their first tc. remember when jeanne i think was saying that they need to split into groups for the shelter, fire, water. what happend with that? i think i missed something while typing last nite. or is this like that hint that jeff gave at the end of last season about the leaders and followers, hmm. |
Moondance | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 12:45 pm     Good Post Sea! Oh and in my above post I meant to say I hope I WASN'T offensive not was...LOL is it time for my Leave in Huff day yet! Is anyone else going crazy over this JJJJJJJ I have lost count how many Js are on this team! |
Seamonkey | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 12:47 pm     Well that was interesting, and I don't have a tape to check, but it seemed like Jeanne actually said they needed one person do do fire, water AND shelter.. I think she meant one each (but that would still leave 5 out) bue she actually said all three.. very strange.. and no one stepped up and said they'd do all three .. go figure.. I'm sure that after a night on that very uncomfortable looking , rickety platform, with Joanna going on and on over the idol, nerves were strained.. then the granola bar fiasco.. ahhh.. I'd totally forgotten about that clue from Jeff.. |
Car54 | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 01:19 pm     Doh!!! I forgot Alicia! She was great. I loved her and was soooooo sorry when she left. She and Jeff were my favorites that season. Once they were gone I lost a lot of my interest. I barely remember Nick...he was cute but he sure flew way under the radar!! Ghandia would have been a stupid, trouble makin woman no matter what color she was. Trouble and stupid come in every color of the rainbow. That is jes fact! Queenofnorway, I have read that the producers had the same concerns about Christy that you express but she really felt up to the challenges. Remember..the survivors are not REALLY all alone out there. They have really strict limitations on how far they are allowed to roam and there are security guards and camera men with them 24-7. I suspect that there was a bit of extra attention paid to the women's camp this time because there were no men and because of Christy. The last thing the producers want is an accident to happen to their first physically challeged player. They want this to be a PR positive above all else. Look how all of us are rooting for this player...she is a gold mine for them. |
Squaredsc | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 01:19 pm     yep sea and i tried to look for the discussion we had before this season started but its gone, it may be in the archive somewhere. or maybe we need to start it up again. the women seem like a team full of followers or leaders pretending to be followers and i can't remember how that works out. |
Squaredsc | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 01:22 pm     lol moonie. i didn't even notice you said was. car i forgot about the security and cameramen. |
Denecee | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 01:32 pm     I thought Janet wanted to be voted out. It's kind of crazy that Joanna was yelling at a deaf person , but I would guess that deaf people can read facial expressions alot better than hearing people. At this point, I do not like Joanna. My favorite is probably Deena. |
Curlyq | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 01:57 pm     I hadn't even thought of that, Denecee. She was not only yelling at a deaf person, but putting her hand up in her face so she couldn't even read her lips. Way to get your point across, Joanna! I just wish the women would get their act together. Is it just my imagination, or are the women on this tribe a lot more prissy than all the previous survivors? It's like too many of them came planning to charm the men into keeping them around, and now that their plans have changed they don't know how to take care of themselves. |
Grooch | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 02:05 pm     I wish Helen was on this team this season. She would kick all their butts into shape and tell them what's what. |
Car54 | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 02:20 pm     Oh...I want Helen AND Kathy on the All Star team! |
Grooch | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 02:25 pm     Add Alicia to the team! We need 5 more women for the all star team. So who else would be good? |
Car54 | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 02:52 pm     Gretchen, Sue Hawk, what was Hunter's girlfriends name? She was good. Kelly Wigglesworth (didn't like her but she was tough). T-Bird. |
Pamy | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 03:15 pm     Car..I am so glad you just can't stay away from us, even on your huff day!!! |
Alaginger | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 03:20 pm     Car, you mean Gina??? She would be a good one...and I think Jeff Probst really liked her, also!!! |
Car54 | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 03:29 pm     Gina....maybe she isn't an all star if I can't remember her name. I would pick Tina but she said she didn't think she would do it again. I think they should put Jerri on just to drive Jeff nuts. Pamy, I just blew off my day to have a fit. I had the cramps instead...does that count? |
Queenfish | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 03:40 pm     I was just hoping last night at tribal council, while Jenna was giving her little talk about being a team or whatever crap it was she was dishing out, that Christy would have said something like, "What do you mean, we have been here 6 days and you haven't spoken to me yet". I would imagine that the so called "girlie girls" are ignoring her, which would explain her hightend frustrations. I am not excusing her attitude, but i think that Christy's actions might very well be more understood if we knew the extent of how the tribe is treating her. With just the segments we have seen, it does seem that she is being ignored, and when the night falls, it is magnified many times. Just wondering what it might be like to walk in her shoes out there in the jungle. Some of the other girls remind me of the girls in high school that thought they were "All That" and they weren't. Also, does anyone else think that it could be possible for Survivor to plant something like a granola bar, just to see how the contestants might react? |
Sallycat | Friday, February 21, 2003 - 03:54 pm     Joanna was my favorite on the first episode. She was loud during fishing, which I was taught was never condusive to a good catch. Then show two with the rigid attitude about the "idol worship" and lack of anger management have made me wonder about her. Are there just no leader types here, or are they remembering how bossy women get voted off quickly? |
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