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Twiggyish

Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 06:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, I don't like how they're treating Christy, either.
One would think they'd (women) focus on the shelter and food part. They need to also look at plants as food. Perhaps, they could go on a scavenger hunt.

One thing to note from the opening credits.. Heidi was the last one in the sequence of faces shown. Her picture flashed and then turned a red. Could it be a hint that she stays? Could it be that she leaves?

Hermione69

Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 06:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
oh, i like dave too. i know that speech could have hurt him, but i thought it was cool that he owned up to their arrogance.

Spygirl

Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 06:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I like Dave :)

Csnog

Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 06:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe it's something that's "NOT" in the box???

Fess up" was heard.

Hermione69

Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 06:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
the women do need to get it together better re: shelter and food. the adrenaline high of winning will wear off very quickly.

Squaredsc

Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 06:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
why were they washing clothes instead of boiling water to drink? wtf were they thinking. im liking jeanne and joanne too. deena is ok, a little bossy, but ok. not liking heidi, jenna, or shawna.

Hermione69

Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 06:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i heard that there is a beef jerky type scandal. but if that is true, why would it be in the box for all to see?

maybe it is christy's sage and they don't know what it is.

Seamonkey

Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 06:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I won't know until 9:30pm board time.. can't wait to actually see them.

Csnog

Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 06:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It can rain so hard that you can't see the shore line. The women will make their nest but it will take a little longer.

Hermione69

Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 06:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
okay, i have an observation i want to post in the spoiler thread and then i am heading to bed with a good book. thanks to all for being here and hanging out. :)

Curlyq

Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 06:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That was a fun beginning. I felt so bad for the women and I'm so glad they won that challenge. Heidi was very impressive. Hopefully that was the boost they needed to give them some energy.

I didn't notice any scenes showing what the guys were eating. Did I miss it or did they just not show any fishing or cooking on their part? I could've done without the lengthy conversation about which girl is the hottest (what is this, ABC?), but I like the way Jeff used it to make a point.

It did seem extremely stupid to waste a pot of boiled water sterilizing bikini bottoms when the tribe was already so dehydrated. How are they going to last out there if they can't even make it through the first 24 hours without boiling their clothes? And don't people know by now to bulk up before coming to this game? That Jenna looked like she'd already been out there for 30 days.

I wonder how long it'll take the women to figure out that lip-reading can be a great asset to an alliance.

Twiggyish

Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 06:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good point Curly! Plus, they need to get sleep. All these things can help keep them strong.

Wildone

Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 09:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Curly, I agree The lip reading factor could definately help them down the line. This season will be fun to watch. What could possibly be in the box? I think the women need to organize and prioritize their needs, before the men get ahead of them.

Ginger

Friday, February 14, 2003 - 04:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I sure hope the women get it together more from here on out. (I was so dismayed by the sexism expressed by many of the men--and actually shocked that they have SO little respect for women. Do they really think their mothers and sisters and lovers are that weak?) But really, so far our Amazon women aren't acting very amazon. They need to organize and provide themselves with the basics before boiling bikinis. I'm surprised the group has tolerated this so far.

Ginger

Djgirl5235

Friday, February 14, 2003 - 05:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I've been rooting for Christy since they revealed the players weeks ago - at the beginning it was to support my girl Herm, but after I read more about her and read more about her spirit, this girl could win it all!!!

I too have a speculation that I will go post in the spoiler thread, and then check back later!

Great show last night, and I too cried when Christy was upset... not nice!

Laura11103

Friday, February 14, 2003 - 07:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think this is gonna be my least favorite Survivor. First, I don't know how Christy is gonna do okay being that she's deaf. I know it sounds horrible and mean and everything, but it's just the truth. Nobody seems to have much leadership quality and no one is gonna help Christy figure out who's saying what, they're just not gonna do it. It was sad when they all took off leaving her behind, but just proves that everyone's out for themselves and not willing to put in extra help for Christy. Also, I like seeing the interactions with men and women and I just think this'll get kinda boring since their only interaction will be during competitions. I hate to say this, but these women are doing just what I thought they would, not leading, not finding food, not building shelter, sorry to say, but it seems they need some men to help. Women are great, but men tend to have more leadership in these situations. I'm a woman, so it's not like I'm trying to put women down, I would love for these women to prove me wrong.

I totally felt that the men threw that immunity challenge, it was ridiculous. Why couldn't they get past that log? It was weird, I still think something strange happened there.

I'm a reality junky and have watched every survivor and will continue, I just can't wait til the merger, hopefully the women will be able to survive until then....

Kaili

Friday, February 14, 2003 - 07:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought the log thing was weird too- what is so difficult about walking across a log- or scooting across on your butt (which seems much more difficuly). Dan looked terrified grasping onto it- like it was 200 feet in the air or something.

This would have been an interesting group to mix the sexes with. Ryan wouldn't have been gone- his whole plan was to charm the girls on his team.

Froggiegirl621

Friday, February 14, 2003 - 08:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I wasn't very impressed with the guys on this show...all they talked about were how hot some of the girls are. Even during tribal council, everyone gave their vote as to who is the hottest! Oh my God!!!!! They totally turned me off! I'm sooooo glad the girls won the first challenge...shut the guys up a little! Go girls!!!

Denecee

Friday, February 14, 2003 - 08:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Just a quick note because I want to read everybody's post and I don't have time right now. OMG!! I would never want to be where those women are now! Yikes! I'm very excited and can't wait till next week.

Marysafan

Friday, February 14, 2003 - 08:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
First let me say that I didn't get to see the show last night (the Red Wings were playing), but I just got off the phone with my best friend and he watched it. He and his family are HUGE Survivor fans so I couldn't wait to get his take on it after reading the great spoiler thread here (thanks Square...you are the BEST!).

My friend HATED the show! He thought the guys were behaving horribly...and hated the tribal council and the talking about which of the girls were "hot". He thought the guys were really stupid for blowing that challenge.

He didn't think too much of the girls either. All the whining and crying and and talking about each other. Not prioritizing (fire, food and shelter...not laundry first) and not being able to manage the simplest tasks.

He was upset that people would sign on to be on this show and then boo-boo all over the place at how hard it was. They should have known that going in.

Did Christy not realize that it would be dark and she would not be able to communicate? Did she not realize that these people were competing against her and not there to help her or make things easier for her?

The same can be said for the older woman. If you take on a challenge like this knowing you are at a disadvantage from the onset...you have no reason to cry about it. You accepted it when you signed on.

If I were going to do this...I would make darn sure I was in the best shape possible...I would learn skills that would make me an asset to the group. For future reference know that I am very skilled at making a campfire and have built more than one tree fort... but fishing, cooking, and killing spiders are someone else's job.

He said if it didn't get better, he wasn't going to be watching much this season. I on the other hand look forward to meeting this motley crew (except Ryan of course).

Rissa

Friday, February 14, 2003 - 08:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Curly, I was thinking the same thing about Christy, she could turn out to be a real valuable secret weapon. And I am sure that somewhere along the way...... application, video submission, interviews that Christy herself brought this up as one of the reasons for her being included on the show. She has been pretty quiet so far, but I see her showing her strength soon.

On the other hand... that swimsuit model? Is that Jenna? She looks like skin/bones.... literally. Not just thin but unhealthily gaunt. If she doesn't get booted soon, I can see her getting pretty ill. The ass't DA seems to have a lot to offer but she needs to tone it down and quickly before she alienates herself. My fave so far, (from the 10 seconds of air-time she got)is Joanne. She seems strong physically, hard-working and has a great positive attitude. I have the feeling they didn't show a lot of her because she will be around long enough to get to know her later on. Fingers crossed.

The guys? LOL {sigh} I thought the division of male/female would highlight the strengths that each sex would bring to the game but instead we are seeing both teams show stereotypes. The woman are floundering about, still looking for a strong leader-type to show them the way and the men are so full of machismo that it will be their downfall. I loved that they lied about the fish. Technically the women didn't lie, although I don't think they enjoyed what they caught. LOL But why would the men's first reaction be to puff up and lie to keep up with the women? Tsk, Tsk. LOL Now that the first competition has both energized and grounded them (both sides), we will see next week the attitude they wake up with.

Duncan

Friday, February 14, 2003 - 09:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
OK - I haven't back-tracked thru all the messages here, but there is a question that has plagued me during all the Survivor shows (the ones near water): How come they never can seem to catch any fish of any size. Granted, I wouldn't expect to catch lots and lots of big fish all the time, but you would think now and then that they would hook something sizable enough to make a semi-decent meal with.

As far as last night's show, I was really hoping the women would do better than they did. I couldn't believe that it never dawned on them to pour a little kerosene over the wood to start a fire...and then when they did get it going they did laundry?!?!

Ginger1218

Friday, February 14, 2003 - 09:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Laura I think Christy will do just fine. I think what is perceived as a disability will disappear, and she will be treated as a player. Which is as it should be. I think what we saw was a bunch of women who had just been thrown together and so did not go out of their way to adjust to dealing with Christy. I think it will become natural and she will do fine. She obviously is a fighter, you have to be to survive in a world with people who are ignorant.

I am rooting for her.

Catfat

Friday, February 14, 2003 - 09:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The thing that grossed me out was that Jenna boiled their nasty bikini bottoms in the water/cooking pot! She had talked about how the flies were all over her because she smelled bad "down there". Why didn't someone stop her? Why didn't she just rinse her clothes out in the river? Why didn't she swim in the river if she smelled bad? Why doesn't someone hold her head underwater until she comes to her senses?
I hope she is booted first. Ugh!!!

Grooch

Friday, February 14, 2003 - 09:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe because there are pirhannas in the water?

I think Christy and Deena are going to have an alliance.

Also, I think washing the bikinni bottoms happened later than they made it appear to be. I sersiouly doubt they were doing that the first day out there.

They are editting it to make both teams look as bumbling and stereotypical as possible. MB is going for the laughs.