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Micknrc

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 06:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
From scott's post at SS:

"Currently, the listing to be published tomorrow reads as follows:

Survivor: The Amazon
Sleeping with the Enemy
60 min.
An eighth person is ousted. Jeff Probst is the host.

I notice that we have the "ousted" terminology. Last time this was
replaced with "voted off" when the final listing was posted (which was
after publication).

More importantly, if "Sleeping with the Enemy" is the real title, it will
be the very first time that a title has been reused.

I think we are being spoofed."

(not only has it been used before, but coincidentally also for epi. 8)

Hermione69

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 07:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Not only that, but it was used last season to indicate the fake merge in Thailand.

Micknrc

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 07:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
yeah, hermi, I just saw your posts over in spoilerland...I should check there first in the future! I also noticed you and Jeep also starting the 'will strip for food' contradiction in there as well...LOL

Fruitbat

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 07:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sleeping with the enemy could merely signify they are a team now divided with two distinct alliances. More specifically, the gender connections are gone and the women see Christy, for instance, as the ememy. The men also seeing they have lost their original team to some of the women. Could it be specifically Heidi feeling Jenna is now the enemy? That was the strongest bond that was seperated.

Tabbyking

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 08:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i think it's alex and rob sleeping with matt. not sure why rob hates matt, but alex wasn't happy with matt lying across shawna's stomach. although i didn't see shawna tell him to move, either!

Tabbyking

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 08:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
except that i thought alex would be out next...and that would only be episode 7. so maybe it's just the merge and who is or isn't loyal to old alliances from the all male or all female days, etc. you wouldn't know who your enemies were exactly!

Hermione69

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 11:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
could be, Tabby. or someone at CBS could have screwed up royally and this isn't even supposed to be the title at all, LOL!

Djgirl5235

Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 09:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Here's the episode info as per SurvivorFever.net:

Episode 8 Title: "Sleeping With the Enemy"
Airdate: Thursday April 3 (TV Guide)
One player worries that members of the opposite sex are using their charms to manipulate other castaways and warns a fellow tribe member to be careful

Note that it is back on at it's regular time, 8:00 on Thursday night.

Hermione69

Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 10:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ah ha! The plot thickens!

Alaginger

Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 11:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
One player (Roger) worries that members of the opposite sex (Heidi and Jenna) are using their charms to manipulate other castaways (Rob, Matt, and Dave) and warns a fellow tribe member (any of the above) to be careful. Can't see that we got too much of a "Big Tip" out of this preview (LOL).

Fruitbat

Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 11:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Alaginger. Could be Butch that signals the warning too.

Hermione69

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 06:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Episode descriptions from TV Guide or CBS, need to check

Matthew fixates on sharpening the machetes and creeps out his tribemates.

As Heidi and Jenna bathe each other, Rob voices his concern that they are using their sexuality to manipulate their fellow Survivors.

One Survivor embarks on a highly strategic relationship with a member of the opposite sex.

Seamonkey

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 06:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
And we saw the promo with Heidi draped over supposed next to go Dave..

Fruitbat

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 07:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am going to assume Dave initiated this and Heidi is playing him. She said Roger should go first because of the jury vote but agreed Dave was next. He is a big IC threat and they all know this.

I don't think for a minute that she is defecting. She feels very secure with her aliance for the time being. What could happen in three days to change things this drastically.

There is probably not a lot of drama to promote for next week and MB is fabricating.

Matt and the knives comment could signal that they choose him to go over Butch if Dave wins IC because Deena did stress that Matt was an IC threat.

So I am thinking either Matt or Dave next week.

Alaginger

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 07:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay...somebody with a taped copy better check me on this one. When Deena and Jenna were standing on the bank, smiling so admiringly at the guys fishing, and mentally picking them off one by one........didn't Deena say Dave first, Roger second and then Alex??? I know that later Heidi got in on it and they changed their minds to Roger first because they didn't want him to be on the jury. It happened so fast, and they talked so fast...I could have sworn I heard her say Alex because I remember being shocked that she would see Alex as the next threat after Dave and Roger. Let us know if anybody can clarify this.

Hermione69

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 07:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I taped it but will not be able to check it until I get home from work which will be pretty late. It is extended hours day in the library.

Fruitbat

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 07:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Deena said Matt. She sees him as an IC threat. I did not tape it.

Kaili

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 07:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'll check- any idea- that was about 20 minutes into the show right?

Kaili

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 07:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay- Deena mentioed that Alex has an alliance with Rob so she wants him out to force Rob to go with her and Jenna- then right at the end of the fishing scene she said Roger, then Dave, then the rest will have to work itself out.


Interesting that Butch wasn't on the list right after Dave, or even Christy. Probably because she's hoping to get the stronger men out first.

Fruitbat

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 08:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, I think that when Dave is gone they will concentrate on Matt and Alex. That is how Butch gets to the final 4. No threat.

Alaginger

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 09:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Kaili.......thank you so much!!! I would have gone absolutely crazy if I had been the only one that heard Deena say something about ousting Alex at some point. Thanks again so much for looking that up!!!

Kaili

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 09:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
No problem- you're welcome :)

Car54

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 09:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yup, I agree. Butch is in the Paschel, Rodger(S2) mode...they all made it pretty far.

I like Butch...I am glad he stays around.


Now we need to figure out how Christy is Heidi's downfall.

Kaili

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 09:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe an alliance split later on when there are fewer people- say maybe Christy, Butch, and someone else decide to come together to break up Jenna and Heidi. Maybe Rob even wants them broken up if he sees them as a threat and he enlists Christy?

Awareinva

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 09:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have been sitting waiting for my slow computer to load a site and I have come up with a prediction of how it will go. Prolly wrong but fun to speculate :)

Dave goes next per the Deena/Rob plan at #9; but Christy sees that she is F5 at best and our girl is pretty bright. So she and Butch are the two mentioned in this weeks clue- they see the lay of the land and form a second four person alliance with Alex and Matt to counter the Rob,Deena, Jenna, Heidi faction.

Tie vote at 8 leads to the purple rock or some other tie breaker and either Deena or Rob goes. This gives the majority to Christy,Butch, Matt and Alex.

Whoever of Rob or Deena didn't go #8 goes at #7; Heidi goes next at #6 ; Jenna wins immunity at the next TC and Alex goes #5 (maybe Matt but I think Matt F4); this leaves Christy, Butch, Jenna and Matt for F4

Christy goes at F4, Butch next #3 and we get a Jenna/Matt F2

Jenna wins with Heidi, Rob, Deena, Dave's votes

Whacha think?