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Car54

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 04:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You know, I know what opportunists the producers can be..it is totally their show (purple rock, purple rock) but the only thing I didn't like about the little girls stripping was that JEFF is the one that offered the reward.

On every other Survivor, they get tempted with bribes to give up or jump off...I was thinking that it would be one of the guys getting food and offering to share if the girls would take it off.. or the girls trying to freak the guys out..but it all came from JEFF...and he didn't add any extra tasks to any of the other players... the others got food if they would jump...that was kinda unfair (but funny).

Now at that point...2 weeks with little food, I would have taken the bait (in my case, Jeff would have offered me peanut butter NOT to take anything off!)but it seemed like it made things uneven. (but funny).

Jan

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 06:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
but car, didn't jenna (or maybe heidi) say "I would get naked for some chocolate and Peanut Butter"..and then Jeff took her up on it. In other words, it was all her idea, not his, wasn't it?

Squaredsc

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 06:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
but jeff already said there would be rewards for jumping. so the girls didn't need to get naked for food, they would have just been offered the reward to jump. they should have said like this, hey matt, i'll take off my top if you jump. or something like that. i thought it was just unnecessary to get naked for basically nothing.

Seamonkey

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 06:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Car... I also thought Heidi and Jenna were playing more to Jeff and the other staff people (no, not pole) more than the guys.. they pretty much announced that they'd strip and did..

Deena's been more cicumspect than Roger about her bossiness until now.. but I thought it could be a major error that will come back to bite her in the butt later when she said to Jeff it was all good once Roger was not getting immunity! Seemed smug and like she tipped her hand..

Deena and Christy are really strong and will be possible targets.. if not sooner, then later. Hopefully Christy will get some immunities going.

Heidi saved Dave and now they show her pairing off with him.. if they are smart, Dave will go next (being strong and a possible source of pulling Heidi off into his alliance that he may think he has with Christy..) Christy could be key.. despite Roger voting for her, she did vote for him earlier, but he could be persuaded to align with her, Dave, Heidi, possibly..

Matthew could be a target since Dave may have Heidi, Rob wants Jenna and Alex is pining for Shawna, so Matthew is the lone young guy and he already tried to move in on Shawna and Alex.. now he's sharpening machetes :)

And weasel that he is, Rob was as real hoot last night!!

Jeep

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 06:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jan, you're right. Jenna did bring up getting naked for food first. then Jeff brought out the peanut butter and cookies.

Now that the guys know one of them betrayed them (and I'm sure they'll figure out it's Rob) don't you think they'll target him next week?

I was really disappointed the guys voted for Christy, but she is a strong player and Deena was immune. I will NOT doubt again Christy's ability to hold her own, regardless of her hearing loss that we thought might contribute to a balance problem. Obviously that is one problem she doesn't have!

Fruitbat

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 07:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jenna and Heidi had been planning to get naked at some point. It was an insurance policy for some longevity. I think they were under the impression that the men would not vote them off so quickly if faced with the choice in hopes of seeing more skin. They were hoping some would look and lose their balance too, just for the fun of it.

I was shocked to see them vote for Christy too. They thought they had it in the bag and it will remain a mystery why they did not chose Jenna or Heidi to break that power. Christy was a good bet to align with them in the future if it came down to that. Made no sense at all.

Seamonkey, I wondered why Deena said that too. Roger did not pick up on it though. He mentioned in his interview this morning that Alex tipped their hand in TC with something he said so he knew he was a gonner before the votes were read. Shame on you Alex. I would have liked to have seen his face without warning.

Jasper

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 07:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Correct me if I am wrong, there are 4 women and 6 men, they read 9 votes last night, Butch and Dave are aware that 2 men betrayed them and will probably assume all three did.

Car54

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 07:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Square, your take on it was what I was thinking.

I am not upset or outraged, and maybe Jeff was just taking advantage of an opportunity...(can't fault him for that...it made great TV and that is his job). I guess I put Jeff on a bit of a pedestal...I really think he "makes" the show..I can't imaging anyone ever taking his place, so this was a new side of him- that is all. They opened the door and offered him a great moment, and he took it. Not a big deal for me, but just not what I was expecting.

Bat, I think you are right...that "We are the Amazon girls gone wild" speech sounded really canned to me.

I think Dave was the organizing factor in the voting last night. He had a deal with Heidi from the last TC, so he kept his word that Christy would be next, and Roger and Butch are his core alliance, so they went with it...I don't think they wanted to, but it all happened pretty fast...I bet this was all planned with the assumption that they would re-unite with the traded guys, have a majority and pagong the girls...and Christy was just first.
Where they blew it was they did not confirm that Alex and Rob and Matt were still with them, and that they would/wanted to vote Christy....never assume!

I think they had a busy couple of days...merge, get shelter, challenge...and if they had time, they would have found a way to get the men aside and poll them..but they didn't and just made an assumption that old alliances would hold.

Bad plan. Poor Butch. Hope Dave is next.

Bandit

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 07:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Is it just me or did Heidi and Jenna look absolutely emaciated last night when they stripped? BLECK!!! There was nothing but skin and bones. If they want to look even a little bit attractive, I'm sorry, but they need to keep their clothes on.

Csnog

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 08:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jeff is not looking very good either. I heard he was sick during the filming and lost about 20 pounds.

It will be interesting to see how Butch scurries around to alien himself with someone if he is rumored to be in final 4.

Fruitbat

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 08:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Car, in his interview this morning Roger said the men did all communicate that they were back together and the plan was in place. They lied to him. He said he questioned the integrity of two of them. Not sure why not all three unless Matt was staying out of the loop as he always has and he singled out Rob and Alex. He did not name anyone.

Car54

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 09:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ya hoo! I am tickled they lied!!!

I was just gonna post and ask if anyone saw him on the Early Show..I was at work early today!

Thanks Froot-toot!

I didn't think Jenna looked that bad, but Heidi is taller and looked very very thin.

Webkitty

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 09:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I saw him on the Early Show! He said he had WORDS with Alex and Rob before he left the TC!! (they didn't show it)

I have been checking over at Blows, because a poster over there (Markpolo) subscribes to the Yahoo Platinum ~behind the scenes~
I was hoping this altercation would be show, but so far, he hasn't reported it. Wow, would I have liked to see that!

Alaginger

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 09:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Man.........doesn't JP say something about if your number is up, you leave the Tribal Council immediately and infers no extra words are to be said. I guess they couldn't show that to us because it would set a precedent for other shows......and it sounds like something Roger would do......but I sure would like to have seen it!!!

Denecee

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 10:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I haven't had a chance to read the above posts but will later. At the risk of repeating what others might have said, here is some comments of last night's show.

Jenna & Heidi, can you say exhibitionist? Um, nobody else had to take off clothes for food, so I guess Jeff is partly to blame because he failed to mention this to the girls.
Deena, you go girl! Thanks for representing the women and please don't make me take that back.
Alex, you are so silly but sweet and probably won't be around much longer.
Rob, you think you are the only one who knows what's going on- does that mean you know you are not going to win?
Dave, do you see it all slipping away?
Butch, I hope you are in the final 2.
Christy, final 3 for you girl.
Matt, I think you need nourishment.
Finally, Roger, buh-bye!

Denecee

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 10:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, I just have to come back & say something about Roger's noise making. What the heck? I think I would have rallied all the other surviviors and kicked some a$$! Mr. snorer! Who did he think he was, deciding for everybody else that it was time to get up? Well, I guess they handled that problem. End of rant.

Squaredsc

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 11:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
ms. bat, you're right they've been waiting all season to get naked, also love the frooti-tootie.

Realfan

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 11:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Man, I had no idea I'd be looking at naked famine victims when I tuned in to Survivor last night. Could Heidi BE any skinnier? She looked awful! When she crouched down to pull down her pants, every one of her ribs was sticking thorugh her sides. Ugh.

Fun episode. I, too, wish in a way that Jeff had said they didn't have to strip, but I also got the impression the girls really wanted to, so whatever.

Go Deena and Rob! And Christy, too! Win it all! Oh, and Butch is nice, too.

Wink

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 11:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Did American tv show these women naked???? Their bodies were all fuzzed out on my tv.

Car54

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 11:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Nah, we had that blurry patch too.

Denecee

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 11:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank goodness!

Moondance

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 11:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow MsKitty... I would have liked to seen/heard Roger's words to Alex & Rob too!

Webkitty

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 12:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Me too Moonie! I think Ginger is right, there is no way SEG/MB would let us see that, it would set a precedent for future players. From the way Roger said it, it sounded like it wasn't very pretty either!
Like I said, I was hoping the new release of Yahoo Platinum episode 7 behind the scenes would show it, but I guess SEG squelched that. I HOPE someone thinks to prod Roger some more about this when he gives his chat interviews, he seemed to want to talk about it.

Sheilaree

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 12:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the guys are so cocky, and Heide and Jeanna are <>, I hope Christy or Deanna wins the game.

Curlyq

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 02:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am so out of the loop with this show now. I turned it off during the sex talk because I was getting frustrated with how trashy the show has become. It's almost like it's being produced by a totally different crew now. Then when I went back to the show the remaining guys were jumping in the water leaving Christy and Deena to win immunity. I'm glad I missed the strip scene, since just the brief previews of it had put me in mind of Schindler's List. What kind of sick producer would get a thrill out of such emaciated bodies?

Anyway, while I had no affinity for Roger, I was a bit disappointed that the show didn't even try to keep us guessing about who was leaving. There is really nobody left there that I want to see win. Well, maybe Butch.