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Alaginger | Friday, May 02, 2003 - 12:14 pm     Brenda.......you wanted to know what Matt said at TC when he voted Christy out. Here it is: Matt (votes Christie): "She dug her own grave. She had a secure fourth place finish at a minimum. She refused to follow through with our alliance. She chose to distance herself from us. She deserves what she's getting. I was very disappointed. And she’s a great girl. I bent over backwards to help her. She basically thumbed her nose up at me. She deserves this." |
Alaginger | Friday, May 02, 2003 - 12:22 pm     Clp........ I cut and pasted this from the same source. It sounds to me like Matthew really wants to go F2 with Rob, and take Butch to F3. He doesn't feel like the gals deserve it. When he says "I don't give a sh*t" he is talking about the gals trying to talk to him or vote him out or whatever, and when he talks about baiting, he is talking about the gals. But in between he says he wants Butch to be 3rd and that he deserves it. Matt: "And I don't (whispers) give a shit about, I mean, Butch, I really want him to go 3rd. Rob: MmHmm. Matt: Because he deserves it. I mean, well, maybe he hasn't taken the risks and stuff, but he deserves it more than Christy and everyone else. But uh, I'm just gonna,... As you know, if they want to talk to me, I might bait them a bit." |
Rissa | Friday, May 02, 2003 - 12:45 pm     Clp, don't you go messin' with my theory. RFLOL!! I am going to rationalize the Butch on Christy vote omission by saying that Matt didn't need his vote anyway, so no consultation was needed. But even if not, Matt would be really risking a lot taking Rob to F2, I think (translate: hope) he is smarter than that. Rob has a speech already lined up, IMO, about all the back-alley dealing he did in playing this game. 'You don't have to like me, just agree that I played harder and in the end, better.' type of deal. If Matt has a choice, the smarter one would be to take Butch who is apparently so far beneath the radar that a good arguement can be made that he didn't even play the game, much less win it. |
Alaginger | Friday, May 02, 2003 - 07:24 pm     I can't resist the temptation to put this here. This picture from next week's show reminds me of Maurice Chevalier in "GiGi".
THANK HEAVENS FOR LITTLE GIRLS |
Csnog | Friday, May 02, 2003 - 08:46 pm     I hope he is thinking "Thank heavens the bi-ch is gone" |
Happymom | Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 04:41 pm     LOL! |
Realbiz | Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 03:32 pm     The Top Ten Reasons Why Matt Is The Man, or, Why Matt Should Be Running The CIA Posted on Tuesday, May 06 @ 19:10:52 PDT by Debra Whitmore For the last few weeks I have been championing the play and strategy of Matt. At first, many people disagreed with me, but as time has gone on more and more people are starting to agree-Matt is the man. He has been playing this game as if it were covert operations worthy of the CIA. He has covered his tracks, told people what they wanted to hear, allowed others to think that they were in charge, and just like any good spy-he has downplayed his talents, knowledge and mission. When I asked the question 'who is the puppetmaster?' a few people responded 'Rob' but the vast majority declared Matt to be the supreme puppetmaster of the season. Let's look at my top ten list to see why. 1. Matt created an early alliance. In the first few days of the season, Matt clearly aligned himself with Ryan and Daniel. He made his choice and made it early. Matt also thought that Rob was a part of that early alliance. When it was revealed that Rob had actually sided with the other men and voted against this alliance, Matt switched game plans. Time for a new alliance? Find one. He actually tried with a few others and then settled with Rob. 2. Matt kept his planning and strategizing secret. First, with Daniel he spoke in Chinese (I can't remember if it was Cantonese or Mandarin-sorry), in order to keep their messages private. Even though one of their alliance had already been voted out, they were still aligned (at least at the beginning of the episode). However, Daniel betrayed Matt at the tribal council when Daniel spoke of their closeness and their use of another language. The look on Matt's face was priceless. He was betrayed and he wasn't going to allow it to happen again. Matt helped vote Daniel out. In post-ejection interviews Daniel said that he told Matt to vote against him so that Matt could save himself. Well, we won't know the real story until Matt is allowed to comment on it. Nevertheless, Matt showed the intellectual depth necessary to be fluent in Chinese and to understand the importance of secrecy within an alliance. Matt continues to strategize in secret. With Rob, Butch or whomever. Never in front of witnesses. Matt doesn't even reveal himself in the confessionals so that Jeff can't use his words against him at tribal council. He didn't want to open up to his mom-he is single minded and knows that he needs to keep his game to himself. Daniel betrayed him, others could as well, so it is best to keep everything close. 3. Matt understood the importance of changing his game. Once Daniel was gone, one thing that was glaringly obvious was that Matt was next in line unless something changed. And change it did. Matt changed. Everything about him changed. He was no longer the brilliant linguist, he was the slightly eccentric good-buddy character. You know, like Gomer Pyle was to Andy Taylor. He turned himself into a non-threatening bungler. 'Gee Rob, can you teach me the game? I have no idea how it's played, and I need a mentor.' And you know what? We bought it. All of us, including the great strategist himself, Rob. And you know that we bought it. We've been denying for weeks that Matt has been in charge of this game, but we can't deny it anymore. Matt told everyone how bewildered he was by the game, and how thankful he was whenever someone took the time to explain things to him. 'Gee thanks Rob, I don't know where I would be without you.' 4. Matt understood the importance of working hard. Even Rob in a confessional admitted that the tribe might want to keep Matt longer than him. Who do you get rid of? The guy who is catching all the fish, or the guy who makes jokes and has a magic 8 ball? Matt has worked hard throughout the entire season, and it has gotten him through a couple of votes. Even Deena, when she thought she was in power, appreciated his efforts for the camp. 5. Matt never turned on those who betrayed him (I.e. Rob). At first, Matt thought that he had an alliance with Ryan, Daniel and Rob. He quickly learned that Rob was not a part of the alliance, but rather was voting with the other men. What did he do? Did he throw a hissy fit (ala Jenna and Heidi)? Did he purposely cook a mold infested meal (ala Jeanne)? Did he try to use his charm to reverse the tide (ala Dave)? Did he have an emotional outburst after he realized the vote did not go how he thought it would (ala Christy)? Did he yell and disrupt the sleep of others (ala JoAnna)? No. He switched gears and actually worked to make Rob DEPENDENT on him. Yep, you read that correctly. I think that Matt has worked to make sure that Rob relies on him more and more. At first it was a 'convenient' alliance for Rob. Use Matt how he wanted, mock him to the 'cool group' and cut him loose when he wasn't needed anymore. But haven't you noticed? Rob has 'needed' Matt more and more as the season has gone on, and there is no way Rob can now cut Matt loose. Matt turned his 'enemy' into his closest ally. 6. Matt has thrown reward challenges. Yes, we all laughed at Matt as he innocently said to Rob 'maybe I should throw the reward challenge'. Rob mocked him, we felt sorry for him for being so out of touch. Well, the challenge was skill dependent and Matt went all the way to the final with Alex. Then Matt missed. Oh, I know that we a chuckled....'poor Matt, he couldn't win anyway...' Yeah, well that attitude and $3.75 can buy us a Chai Latte at Starbucks. Matt DID throw the challenge. But in such a way that none of us realized it. Alex went off with Jenna and had a good time at the coffee bar. Everyone now realized that Alex was a physical threat. And Matt is still in the game. Now, you may be thinking, 'yes Debbie you have a point, but Matt totally dominated the recent challenge in which a visit from a loved one was the prize'. And, you would be right. However, he then gave up the reward so that the others could spend time with their families. Rob even admitted that he can no longer beat Matt. That's why Rob wants Jenna in the final two. Can't beat Matt, but can't get rid of him quite yet. Interesting, isn't it? 7. Matt has thrown immunity challenges. When I wrote last week that Matt purposely blew the 'know thy neighbor' challenge at least 10 people wrote to tell me that he didn't. Let's look at that challenge again. The person who won immunity would be the first one to answer 5 questions correctly. Matt quickly got 4 answers correct while Alex and Rob were the next closest with 2 correct answers. Matt then blew the next questions until Rob caught up and then won. Why? Well, first of all, Matt quickly got to 4 correct answers so that if Alex seemed like he might win, Matt could pull out a correct answer for himself and win immunity. By allowing Rob to get immunity (or I believe that Matt would have allowed Christy or Butch to win it as well), Matt insured that Rob would not be in danger of being voted out and therefore would be more likely to vote against his previous alliance mate, Alex. This past week, Matt seemed to be a total klutz with the slingshot. However, we have to remember how good he was with the spear as well as the bow and arrow. Matt has great aim. Matt knows how to use a slingshot. Take a second look at the challenge. Not only did Matt only hit one of his (he had to hit one, otherwise the others may have caught on), but he actually took out at least one of Jenna's. That's right, he helped Jenna win immunity. He wanted her to stay. Why? Because she is so hot? NOOOOOO come on, you have to give serious answers. Because he can beat her in the final. During the second part of the challenge, Matt had a very worried look on his face-that he would lose? No, that Jenna would lose. Matt very much wanted Jenna to stay. So, he has thrown immunity twice, and with a very strong strategy in mind. 8. Matt has won immunity when he needed it. The only personal immunity that he has won was when he needed it. Remember? It was the week that Deena actually left. The one in which Deena was leading the vote between Matt and Alex. And Deena wanted Alex to leave more than she wanted Matt to leave. Deena didn't even try to eat the final 'gross food item'-she let Matt just down it and take the victory. Deena thought that Alex's fate was sealed, and Matt knew that Deena's fate was sealed. Sweet. Then at tribal council, Jeff asked Matt if he needed the immunity. Matt said no, but he would keep it anyway. Everyone laughed at how 'innocent' poor Matt was. Then proceeded to vote out Deena. Innocent my foot. Matt knows what Roger, Deena, Alex and Christy would never learn. Show that you know that you're in 'the driver's seat' and then be shown the door. 9. Matt has been willing to play the village idiot in order to appear less threatening. Hey, pride goeth before the fall. Too much pride in this game, and a contestant is gone. Why did Jan last so long? Because she 'didn't know what she was doing'. How did Kim J. come in second? Because she wasn't a threat. But the village idiot? Well, Matt will be laughing all the way to the bank. Spend all your time with your machete? Well as long as you don't kill us, we can tolerate that. Don't know how to play the game? Well then, we won't have to worry out Matt outthinking us. Don't know how to create an alliance? Well then we'll let Matt be in our alliance until we no longer need him. Know how to 'survive'? Good, then go catch the fish so that the rest of us don't have to. Yep, he's some idiot....the kind who's going to win the game. Don't forget that his career is dependent on him being able to understand people, cultures and business. Crazy like a fox. 10. Matt has been an essential part of every vote since the merge. However, we have seldom been allowed to see Matt's role. Once we did-when Matt told Butch that he would try to get Rob to vote with them against Alex. What happened? Somehow Matt played it so that Rob made the actual proposal, but it worked out as Matt had intended. People have wondered why he would vote against Christy. However, several of you hit it on the head. Matt might not be able to beat Christy, and he had to arrange for her to exit when she would be so focused on the others that she wouldn't seek revenge against him. Matt has voted with the majority, yet in the aftermath he has never been targeted for how he voted. Nobody pressures him or feels vengeance in their hearts against him. But what about Butch? Butch has very few options at this time and will probably buy whatever line Matt will feed him (Rob said that he would contact you....) I think that Matt will use Butch to vote out Heidi next week (barring immunity), then have Butch voted out so that it is Matt, Jenna and Rob in the final three. Matt will go into the final three against two non-aligned players (one of whom will never forgive the other for his "betrayal"). What will Butch think? Probably that Rob or Jenna worked against him. Matt has played his role to such perfection that although his vote is always right there, the bitterness has always been directed against others. Now, I know that some of you will remain unconvinced. Just think back and look at Matt's play in a different light. I also know (from the tremendous response I received regarding the 'puppetmaster' column) that many of you have changed your view of Matt. I know that I have. However, I may end up being completely wrong...it happens (more often that I care to admit) . At is now stands, I see Matt, Jenna and Rob at the final three. Matt wins the final immunity, takes Jenna with him and will next be spotted taking his check to the bank. Matt, if you ever read these columns, please let me know your story (I know that you won't be able to say anything until after next Sunday....). Rob? I still enjoy him, and I think that he will have a career in the entertainment industry. He is quick witted and insightful. Jenna? Yep, I think that she'll get the Playboy gig that she has been trying out for all season. As always, I love to hear from you, so let me know what you're thinking:Debra@survivorfire.com. |
Allietex | Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 06:48 pm     I believe this may be one of the most insightful analysis of a Suvivor contestant that I have ever read. I am not sure all of the things she credits Matt doing was really planned. I think he just kinda fell into some of it, but I do believe he has made the most of every opportunity, and I think she is probably dead on with most of it. I am really pulling for him to win because I think he has played the best game and has never been vicious or arrogant. The only one I just can't stand to think about winning is Jenna. |
Sia | Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 09:46 pm     Allietex, I totally agree with you!!! I'm a happy girl tonight! |
Weenerlobo | Friday, May 09, 2003 - 06:55 am     Matt is the guy that I want to win, now that Christy's gone. I can respect Rob for being Mr. Machiavelli and Butch for being Mr. UTR, but Matt is the one that I truly want to win. |
Rissa | Friday, May 09, 2003 - 08:11 am     I was right on the first of my three final guesses/theories. {whew}. I am not all that sure about the next one though. I am thinking that Matt will want Rob gone. He did his job, helped Matt get a 3 to 2 vote for one of the girls. But,now there are 4 left... he doesn't need Rob (he has Butch) and must know that Rob could make a good arguement to the jury about his manipulations being good game play. Having said that, last night Matt was much more complimentary to Rob then I would have expected. I am still going to say that hour 1 on Sunday sees Rob saying goodbye but I am not AS SURE about that as I was before last night's show. LOL GO MATTHEW!!!! |
Webkitty | Friday, May 09, 2003 - 08:42 am     Rissa, read the Insider transcript that Moon just posted. Matt and Rob have an F2 pact, they swore on their mothers on it. Matt doesn't think Butch deserves to win. He is with Rob all the way. I would love to see a Matt/Rob final 2, but I don't think it will happen. I think Jenna will win the last immunity, and take Matt over Rob, thus fulfilling ChillOne's spoiler. jmo Matt will win over Jenna. Jenna - Heidi Matt- the rest of the jury votes. |
Rissa | Friday, May 09, 2003 - 08:52 am     Latest Survivor Recap The above is on canoe.ca and is quite funny. The author has pretty much the same end-game theory as I do except he thinks Deena will absolutely vote Jenna just because she will want a female to win. I don't know if I buy that. Also, he makes a curious comment and perhaps someone here can help? >>Though his vote isn't shown, Rob says that two girls with one brain, divided by two equals one half-wit left. Ouch! Jenna cries as Heidi departs. Christy and Alex share a laugh at Heidi's expense.>> Did I miss this? The Christy and Alex thing? Could just be the author being sarcastic but including Alex in the *laugh* seems odd to me. Perhaps he had some gears going we don't know about and his alliance with the twins was more strategy then loyalty? Webkitty, thanks. I have seen that too but part of me keeps thinking that Matt might also have a similiar pact with Butch that we just haven't seen (ala Rob is worse than Italy during WWII with his alliances and you (Butch) have been more consistantly loyal). Could be wishfull thinking because although Butch hasn't been seen playing this game AT ALL, he does seem genuinely likeable. LOL |
Djgirl5235 | Friday, May 09, 2003 - 09:17 am     Rissa - I saw that last night: As the camera came to the jury to see their reaction to Heidi's departure, Alex put his hand on Christy's knee (kind of like he was congratulating her) and she was shaking her head in a "it figures" kind of way - kind of celebratory... Christy has definitely been spilling to the jury!!! |
Webkitty | Friday, May 09, 2003 - 10:27 am     DJ, I saw that too! I agree with 100%. The jury has been talking, there is no way Jenna is getting the million if she makes it to F2. Christy was very upset when she departed the game, and she still looked a little upset to me last night. I think they will rally round her and not give the prize to Jenna. PS: I would love to be a fly on the wall when Heidi got back to the yatch that night! lol. Her comments at TC must have had them in stitches! Especially if she kept insisting that she was the "mastermind" behind the their boots! oh dear! |
Kaili | Friday, May 09, 2003 - 10:44 am     One part where they showed Christy on the jury and she shook her head- I couldn't really tell if it was because of what was going on or if she maybe couldn't figure out what was being said. You know how some people may shake their head when they don't get something and are trying to figure it out? I think it was the first time they showed her sitting- earlier in TC- that I saw that. But I did see that Alex seemed to be more "on her side" during TC than I would have guessed. Hard to tell, but who knows what they have been talking about. |
Csnog | Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 01:03 pm     By ERIC MOSKOWITZ, Standard-Times staff writer On the official CBS Web site, there's a chart of crisscrossing, multicolored lines that looks like a subway map gone through the spin cycle. It is, in fact, a tracking of the popularity ratings of all 16 contestants on "Survivor: The Amazon," the sixth installation of the show that started the reality TV boom. An electric green line represents Matthew Von Ertfelda, the Dartmouth native who is now one of the four remaining Survivors. After week one, back in February, Internet voters ranked him the least popular of the bunch, with a 30 percent approval rating. Today, his popularity has soared to 79 percent, second overall among all contestants, active and otherwise. More importantly, though, on the network's official poll -- some 44,100 votes strong yesterday afternoon -- 68 percent of respondents thought Matthew would take home the $1 million prize, to be determined tomorrow night in a live broadcast from New York at 8 p.m. His nearest competitor, middle school principal Butch Lockley, earned just 15 percent of the vote. Thursday night, Matthew -- a 33-year-old restaurant designer for Marriott International in Washington, D.C. -- dominated the challenges to secure both of the coveted prizes, a 2003 Saturn Ion Quad Coupe and the immunity necklace, guaranteeing him a place in tomorrow's final four. Such prowess has earned him the tag "unstoppable" in network promos for the show. "It's like Andy Warhol said, everyone gets their 15 minutes of fame. This is his moment," said his mother, Kathy, a horse trainer who made a TV appearance herself after Matthew won a reward challenge that brought a prize visit from a flown-in family member. To be precise, he had a choice between seeing his mother or letting all of the other competitors see their relatives, in the process currying their favor. He chose the latter and in the process earned a surprise reward -- a night-long visit from Mom. For those who haven't been watching, the 16 contestants were dropped in an isolated Amazon River location last fall for 39 days of grueling survival-elimination, the effects of which are readily visible on the withered frames and gaunt visages of the contestants. A lean, 6-foot, 175-pound former athlete, Matthew dropped 35 pounds during the course of filming, his mother said. The competition centers on two kinds of challenges, those that grant rewards (anything from a shower to a hot meal to contact with loved ones) and those that grant immunity, saving the contestant from the possibility of being voted off the next show-closing Tribal Council, a segment where the remaining Survivors conspire to eliminate one more from the ranks. Each episode represents three days, and the contestants -- all of whom have since returned to the United States -- are forbidden by CBS from speaking to the media until after they have been voted off and made a requisite initial appearance on the "Early Show," the morning after their exit airs. Selection of the ultimate winner will come tomorrow night in New York, when the votes of the last seven Survivor castoffs will be revealed to determine the $1 million winner. The runners-up will receive between $2,500 and $100,000 each, depending on their elimination rank. For Matthew's parents, the show has been a novel experience. Mrs. Von Ertfelda, who previously paid little attention to TV programs besides HBO's "Six Feet Under," and her husband, Harry, have held regular Survivor parties, as many as 15 people gathering at their Dartmouth home to eat dinner and watch the tube. They printed up bumper stickers ("Go Matt! Survivor 6: The Amazon," they say, scores of them in bright red) and Dr. Von Ertfelda, an orthopedic surgeon in New Bedford, frequents all the Survivor Web sites. There are plenty of them, everything from the official site to winner-handicapping pages to SurvivorHunks.com, where you can send e-postcards of Matthew. "We've all been having a lot of fun with it," Mrs. Von Ertfelda said. "Now that it's getting close to the prize, though, it's a bit nerve-wracking." Though the producers have the selective-editing powers to craft contestants into personas and types, and the Internet message boards have not all been kind (in a CBS-sponsored web chat with contestant Alex Bell, after he was voted off in week 10, one fan asked is "Matt really as physco (sic) as he is said to be?"), Dr. Von Ertfelda said he believes people have gotten a realistic portrait of his son. "He's generally quiet and conservative, and he's a very considerate person. But he's also very competitive," said Dr. Von Ertfelda of Matthew, who was an accomplished football player and wrestler at the Middlesex School in Concord. A student at Friends Academy in Dartmouth as a youth, he graduated from Cornell University and later studied culinary arts at the L'Ecole de Gastronomie Francaise Ritz-Escoffier in Paris. Still, Dr. Von Ertfelda said, he never have predicted Matthew would be destined for the later rounds, "because he's not the least bit devious. Maybe he's learning now." Though no one knows the winner, Matthew hasn't divulged whether he made the final two, where filming stopped. "Everyone says to me, 'Oh, you must know (because you're his mom).' But legally, he's not supposed to tell anyone, and I guess he's being a good boy and not saying, because I certainly don't know," his mother said. "I've done everything I can think of to try to trick him into telling me, but he hasn't slipped up yet." As for speculation, neither she nor her husband will venture a guess. The Web told them that the winner of the car never winds up with the ultimate prize. And as for the so-called "spoiler boards" that claim to have inside info about that week's show, Dr. Von Ertfelda said, "they've been wrong every time." |
Catfat | Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 01:18 pm     Remember in the beginning, when Matthew sort of sat around with his mouth hanging open like he just didn't get it? I think that was the best acting job we have seen on Survivor to date. He played dumb, let himself be led around, didn't win any challenges, acted like a dog. BUT-- look at our Matthew now. He is winning every challenge, whether it be puzzles, rope swings, eating bugs or whatever. After reading on this board about all the things he had accomplished, and seeing him throw the (I think) bow and arrow contest on purpose, I and most of us here took another look. Suddenly, Matthew is coming to life. I hope he wins this game. Of all the people on Survivor ever, he is the one I would like most to meet. |
Grannyg | Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 08:31 am     I just read in one of the other threads that Matt brought his high school wrestling jacket with him for his luxury item. Does that mean Matt lost his jacket in the fire? There has been so much said about Jenna's things she lost but if Matt lost his jacket, isn't that the same thing has Jenna's losing her stuff? But no one has said Matt whined about losing his jacket. Just curious!! |
Csnog | Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 08:38 am     Matt wouldn't whine about anything. |
Jasonfan | Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 08:25 pm     Wow! Did he look good on the show! I am so disappointed. In the end, it just goes to show you that the beautiful, popular, spoiled girls ALWAYS get what they want. Matthew, you played a great game and you seem like a genuine person. Thanks for the entertainment and for being someone mature to cheer for! |
Knightpatti | Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 08:32 pm     Matt you outlasted, outwit, and outplayed them, but you could not get the votes. You were great! Best of luck to you in your life. You played a great game. |
Bastable | Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 08:40 pm     Does anyone know which restaurants our nipply nitwit designed? |
Squaredsc | Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 08:46 pm     matt is hot and played a great game. im going to dc to find him. |
Csnog | Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 08:53 pm     LOL Square. Matt was a wonderful player and he will always be the winner to me. |
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