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Cynthia57

Friday, February 21, 2003 - 10:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I've been wondering about that granola bar. I've been wondering because Survivor checks everybody going into the game and, I am certain, would have found it. Which leads me to think that one of the camera men/women might have left the bar.

This is what I think happened: It was raining, the camera person didn't want his/her granola bar to get wet. He/she stuck it into the wooden box to keep it dry. It fell to the bottom. The camera person forgot about the granola bar and viola!

That seems more logical to me than someone sneaking food in. What do you think?

Micknrc

Friday, February 21, 2003 - 10:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually in the first season of UK Survivor Mick (the funny old coot) snuck in a string of several sausages. Much hilarity ensued as tribemembers speculated as to where it had been hidden! I think it's a case of-- if you can get away with, anything's game!

Not that it couldn't have been dropped (either accidentally or on purpose) by an EBM staffer.

I also want to know-- if Jeanne saw it in Janet's bag-- why just now speak up? And why doesn't this question occur to the others?

Cablejockey

Friday, February 21, 2003 - 12:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wouldn't be at all surprised to hear years from now, that The Powers That Be, put that granola bar there on purpose, just to stir the pot a little.

Squaredsc

Friday, February 21, 2003 - 12:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
cablejockey, i agree. it probably was emb who planted the wrapper to stir the pot, but im surprised that they didn't really show alot of drama about the wrapper. it was actually kind of subdued.

Seamonkey

Friday, February 21, 2003 - 12:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
But, my read is that nobody had seen a granola bar in that box, then when it was raining, they dumped their totebag/backpack things into the box and when later they went in to pull stuff out of the box, removed the packs and there was the granola bar, so the assumption would be that it came from one of the packs.. not that it was in the box prior to their opening it..

Queenfish

Friday, February 21, 2003 - 03:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just posted in another thread about this, and then saw there was a "Granola Bar " thread. I think it is very possible that Survivor planted the granola bar just to get a reaction. If so, it worked.

Alaginger

Friday, February 21, 2003 - 04:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay......now I have a question? If Survivor planted the granola bar, and it came to light, wouldn't Janet have a reason to yell "Foul Play". I'm not sure she got voted off just because of the granola bar incident, because she was so sick the first episode which plays towards a weaker team player........but if a "plant" came to light, I would think she would have grounds. I still think we will never know for sure!

Emt911

Friday, February 21, 2003 - 04:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I posted about it maybe being a production placement on Valentine's Day under the topic where we pick reward, immunity, booted, and a bonus on the 'thing in the box'. I do wonder if we'll ever get an answer. Perhaps a little flash on the last episode, showing some production guy tiptoeing in and raising the lid and tossing something inside?!

All the nonsense over it last night; I just wanted to take the darn thing and eat it myself. Never look a gift-horse in the mouth, you know!
I think they should have just shared it. Burning it was funny, though! Someone else suggested they should have mixed it with the manioc they had to cook and added some flavor to it. That would have worked, too.

Emt911

Friday, February 21, 2003 - 04:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Alaginger, somewhere on these posts I read where there was never 'really' beef jerky when Jerri (was it her?) screamed 'foul' on Survivor Outback. I wasn't watching Survivor regularly back then, but can anyone refresh us on that?
I would be upset, too, if I were booted for something outsiders influenced. Is that supposed to be some of the nature of the game? It's difficult enough without literally 'throwing something else into the mix'!

Alaginger

Friday, February 21, 2003 - 05:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If I remember right, there never was any beef jerky to be seen. Kel always said he was chewing on grass blades. I believe the beef jerky was a figment of Jerri's imagination, and she played it for all it was worth. In this case, we definitely saw a granola bar and it was given up as a sacrifice to the "Fire Gods" (Oh, I hope Joanna never reads this - LOL)

Hippyt

Friday, February 21, 2003 - 05:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
EMt911,I couldn't believe they didn't eat it either! I know it would have been like a crumb for 8 people to split,but hey when you have nothing to eat,seems kinda silly to burn food.

Hippyt

Friday, February 21, 2003 - 05:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh,and I wanted to add, Survivor News.net has a poll up. Did Janet snuggle in the granola bar?
13%-Yes
24%-no,someone else
61% CBS planted it!

Curlyq

Friday, February 21, 2003 - 08:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It's possible they were afraid their tribe would get penalized if they ate it. I noticed they didn't even want to touch it with their bare hands.

My first thought was that it was planted there. If it was planted on purpose, Janet couldn't really accuse CBS of foul play unless they planted it in her bag, rather than in the barrel itself. It was Jeanne who decided to accuse Janet, not CBS.

Clp

Friday, February 21, 2003 - 09:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My thoughts are what if during training they got energy granola bars as a snack and someone forgot they stuck theirs in their bag? Sometime later, it rains, those unorganized gals throw stuff willy nilly into the box, and voila, out falls contraband! Thus, all the "It wasn't me" hoopla really was true because said woman didn't even know she brought it?

Gee, think I thought about this WAY TOO MUCH??

Emt911

Friday, February 21, 2003 - 09:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am going to get a granola bar. I am going to put it in a shoe box. (I don't have a crate.) I am going to leave it for 6 days and eat corn meal straight from the box. I am going to solve giant puzzles, or at least rotate the cars in the driveway. I am going to sleep with giant bugs, (sorry, honey, bear with me here), and have my kids yell at me for holding up their lunch money (oh that money idol). Then I am going to open the box. I am going to consider that granola bar....and then, I am going to scarf that granola bar, wrapper and all. Okay, case solved:

Nope, no one brought it. It was planted.

Jo_5329

Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 06:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well they way Joanna was about "putting it in the fire" with the long machette like it was a freaking bug made me gag ....

I think it was planted .. but I don't think Janet was voted off because of it, I think she was voted off because she wasn't adjusting well.

Jo

Niceguy

Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 07:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, I don't have much more to add. I concur that this was a way to get the pot boiling. It was interesting that tribal council vote seemed to be all over the place. A lot of head games going on among those women.

No kidding.

Niceguy

Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 08:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This incident was like the canoe incident on the Thailand show. Just a way to get the players suspicious of each other quickly.

Moondance

Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 12:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok just watched some of the video audition tapes and video profiles... something interesting. I was watching Hedi's viseo profile and the woman asked if she brought any food with her (for during the hotel stay) and she said I brought this box of triscits and fruit granola bars... the wrapping looked very familar... it is on the CBS site if you want to check it out:)

Emt911

Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 02:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow! Doesn't surprise me though. Janet actually seemed honest to the point of admitting it had it been hers had it BEEN hers. She was honest about how tough being in the Amazon was, how sick she felt, etc., right from the start.
Maybe the editing made a big deal out of the granola bar because there wasn't much else to film of the gals. They weren't doing much building, either literally or figuratively, fished only half-heartedly. Look how much film was given over to Joanna's 'Idol idiocy', so they could continue the theme with her in Christy's face. I also felt whoever was with Christy could have put their finger to their lips to have her use a lower voice or let her know Joanna was coming. It looked like a total set-up to me. (By Jeanne...who also started the rumor of the granola bar having been seen in Janet's bag.) If these gals spent half the time working as a team as they have backstabbing and engineering 'tense' moments, they would have built the shelter days ago.
I wonder at Joanna's profession: Guidance Counselor. Scary thought!

Car54

Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 02:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ohh, great catch...another suspect! Jeff says we will never find out unless the person confesses, so that makes me think they are not going to address it again in the show.

I hope Julie asks each woman about it on the Early Show until somebody confesses.

Ericzj

Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 08:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"I wonder at Joanna's profession: Guidance Counselor. Scary thought!"

I don't. If you remember HS they were the people who telling the students how to do it. In my opinion the profession/position is a complete joke. Wouldn't you want advice from someobdy who was sucessful?

"College? Those brochures are on the rack over there. Be sure you get the application in before the deadline." <shrug>

Hermione69

Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 08:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow, Eric, I'm a high school librarian and you probably include me with that unsuccessful statement, but most of the guidance counselors I have worked with in my 9 years in public education have been lovely, caring people.

In fact, just last night I read a Reader's Digest article about Kevin Spacey and he credits his high school guidance counselor with getting him into drama and channeling his energy and emotions more productively.

I'm sorry your experience was so negative.

Tabbyking

Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 09:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Having to deal with my kids' counselors (both are in high school) has been a wonderful experience. They have counselors who follow them for all four years. My son is a senior and when he graduates, his counselor will start over with the freshman class. My daughter is a freshman and will have her counselor all 4 years. The senior's counselor has gone out of his way to help my son with college applications and requirements. When my son was a sophomore, he had a 2-hour meeting with him, my husband and me, to go over his college and future plans, discuss what courses he would need, etc. It was wonderful. No one yelled at anyone ;>)

Even if some of the counselors decades back were less helpful or downright mean, Joanna is much too young to have been of the 'old school'. I would expect her to be considerate of others. This is way too early in the game to say the game got to her. My feeling is, this may be Joanna! We'll see what happens down the line, but I don't see any caring yet.

Hermione69

Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 09:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Excellent points, Tabby! :)

I, too, was really surprised to see Joanna go overboard like that.

P.S. As far as the granola bar goes, I don't think we will EVER know.