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Csnog

Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 08:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think the jury will vote after the final IC.

It will be the single vote they have among the final 3 immediately after the final IC.

The final 2 will still have their last night together.

Csnog

Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 11:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
By KEVIN WILLIAMSON -- Calgary Sun

What started as a battle of the sexes has become a high school popularity contest.

There's the nerd, the cheerleader, the scary quiet kid who plays with knives just enough to make everyone really nervous, and even the quietly observant principal, who's about as interesting as wallpaper compared to the crazy kids.

These, then, are the final four contestants of Survivor: The Amazon, which wraps up tonight with a three-hour marathon of Herculean proportions. (Two hours of jungle-based antics, followed immediately by a one-hour reunion special.)

And even host Jeff Probst admits he never expected these four to make it the distance.

"With the exception of Rob, I would have said Jenna, Butch, Matthew -- it would be very difficult for them," Probst said during a conference call this week.

"Even Rob, when I first met him, I thought he was probably first or second out because he didn't fit in. Rob was the only young guy there who wasn't physically fit or socially ... He looked like the guy who always got picked last.

"Matthew was the strongest physically, but had zero social ability. Jenna? The cute girls never last. Butch, how he snuck through is amazing. But there's always one guy you think there's no way, but you better watch him because he's going to be sitting in that final seat."

This edition of Survivor differed from past instalments by dividing the two tribes along gender lines.

The result unspooled like a dual lesson in anthropology -- the women rudderless without a leader, the men faltering at challenges that taxed their minds more than their muscles -- and goosing ratings. (Buxom babes Jenna and Heidi bathed together so many times it was like Rosie O'Donnell was programming CBS.) But Probst says the success of Amazon -- which some critics consider one of the better Survivors -- has less to do with the gimmick than the castaways themselves.

"I absolutely think this has been one of our best seasons," he says.

"It's hard to ever quantify why, but it has a lot to do with the good characters lasting deep into the show. Every season, there are three, four or five people who we think, they're really going to pop ... They're going to be exciting if they last long enough. When you look at past Survivors that didn't always happen."

As for which of the final foursome have the best chance at claiming the $1-million prize, Probst won't say.

But he does draw comparisons to uber-nerd Rob and perhaps the most famous winner of them all.

"Richard Hatch was very much like Rob. It wasn't a moral situation to him, it was an amoral situation. Rob is probably one of the smartest guys to ever play this game. So you have him along with the guy everyone thinks is nuts and a school principal that won't look at the naked girls."

That each contestant has been drawn with such broad strokes -- Jenna, for example, as the tribe's spoiled brat -- begs the question: how much is real, and how much is edited together (ie: created) by the producers.

"We don't put words in people's mouths," Probst says.

"Jenna and Heidi said everything you heard. Does Survivor show every aspect of a personality? Absolutely not. Do Heidi and Jenna deserve some of the heat they've been taking? Sure."

But he also says it's not fair to judge Survivor -- and how its contestants have been portrayed -- until the final episode airs. "Is Butch really this principled guy or is he really the most savvy? Is Matthew really crazy or is that his game plan? After the final episode, I think it's fair to then ask, 'Do you deserve your rap

Pamy

Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 12:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
In tv guide it quotes Jeff saying the person that loses the last IC goes straight over to the jury and the last TC begins.

Wilsonatmd

Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 01:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
the spoiler sources are coming out with their last picks....most of them have this format...

Jenna wins first IC, Butch is booted
Jenna wins second IC, Rob is booted
Matt wins the jury vote 5-2 or 4-3.

A couple have Jenna winning, but NONE of them, at least the ones I can find, have Rob making it to the finals, most of them have him going third.
The most intriguing ones have Matt going first and Rob going second, and Butch and Jenna in the finals.....

Micknrc

Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 02:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Have a nice finale, y'all....

Pamy

Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 02:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Where's Hermie today? Anyone know what Sneezer says yet?

Seamonkey

Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 03:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hermi may be with her mom today (I think)

Speaking of Hermi.. Pamy, Hermi, Lanzee and anyone.. if you get the comic Pearls Before Swine and have access to today's (sunday) paper... be sure to check it out.
Oh, nevermind.. just go here!!

http://www.comics.com/comics/pearls/

Alaginger

Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 04:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Anybody know whose folder I'm suppose to put this in. Matt??? Rob??? Jenna??? Butch???
money

Seamonkey

Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 04:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Mine, please!!

:)

Pamy

Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 04:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That was funny Sea!!

Alaginger

Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 08:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Anybody know how I can get into Seamonkey's folder. I would rather give her the money.......I refuse to put it in Jenna's thread (folder)...........

Alaginger

Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 08:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am sooooooo excited!!! I finally figured out how to access the member's folders and found out I had 5 messages in there. The only way I got there before was when Aware left me a link on 4/25. Thanks guys.......that's fun!!! I made my first entry and gave Sea the money!!! (LOL)

Webkitty

Monday, May 12, 2003 - 10:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I would like to thank each and every person who came to this thead to help spoil this season, you are all awesome!

Next season looks fantastic! Love the location and the pirate theme! Can't wait!

Love, webkitty

Pamy

Monday, May 12, 2003 - 06:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with Webkitty!! Thanks to everyone! This thread was just as fun as the show, sometimes even more fun!!! Can't wait for the next one!!

Moondance

Monday, May 12, 2003 - 06:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks to all our kick a** spoilers... MsGinger, MsKitty & MsCar, you guys rock my world:)

Egbok

Monday, May 12, 2003 - 06:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Let me join in on showering accolades to all the wonderful Spoilers on this thread. You guys made the show so much fun by adding your takes on everything Survivor. Thank you so much!!