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Archive through May 04, 2003
Aus10 | Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:59 pm     Alaginger... this truck had a temporary IL tag which you get before you get your regular plates, therefore I don't think it would be a rental. Rental cars have regular plates. The truck had a dealer sticker from Terre Haute, IN. Which by the way is where Butch is doing alot of his commercials for...WTHI Terre Haute. He promotes Survivor and a local survivor contest on the station alot, so he has been in Terre Haute. |
Egbok | Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:32 pm     Hey Aus10, I remembered your post about Butch and the new truck. I truly believe you saw Butch. The posters here are dedicated spoilers and man! are they good at this stuff. I just sorta stay in the background and appreciate their takes on all angles and aspects of posts, pictures and assorted Survivor info. Glad that you popped in here to say hey! Cool. |
Hermione69 | Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:42 pm     Thanks, Aus! If the RC is really as physical as it appears, I have trouble imagining Butch beating Matthew. That coupled with Aus' possible sighting of him in a new pickup, which is obviously not the reward vehicle, are leading me to have second thoughts about his winning this. The "happy dance" could be in reaction to tree mail suggesting such a reward. He is at camp in the vid cap. I don't imagine it would be in reaction to winning a car at that point. He is too low-key and I don't see him rubbing it in people's faces like that. He can see him doing a happy dance right after winning, but to do it back at camp would seem too much like gloating and I don't see him like that. The picture of him hugging Heidi and Jenna does seem like someone who just won something, but again, it could be a reaction picture. Maybe they just showed the car or maybe Matt won and is taking Rob somewhere as part of the reward and this is Butch hugging the ladies in an "Aw shucks, I'll just hang out here with these two lovely women and that will be my reward" type of gesture. Heidi and Jenna have developed little closeness to Butch. For them to be hanging back with him after being left out of the reward seems a more likely scenario (similar to the way he and Heidi were hugging each other after being the first knocked out of the last RC) than one where he just won a car and Heidi and Jenna are moved to congratulate him. That doesn't seem to be how they typically react to challenge winners. |
Sia | Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:55 pm     Man, I can't believe they burned their campsite on purpose. I would assume that was an accident--and wouldn't that spark some fighting between the remaining Survivors!! I can't wait for the next episode. |
Alaginger | Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 07:13 pm     Dog Gone It, Hermie........Every time I think I have it figured out and run all over the Internet changing all my picks at all the game websites I belong to, you come in and say something that is so profound and changes my mind completely. I'm going to have to learn to quit being in such a hurry to go make my picks and study up a little more. Your take on the Butch thing really sounds feasible. I see Butch coming out of the cage and the other 4 are definitely not open, so if that is the last phase.....he is the winner. But if that is only the first phase, Matthew can catch up to him in a heartbeat!!! Okay......we need more pictures.........waiting for Promo 2 to come out.......... |
Whoami | Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:13 pm     About that new truck Butch was seen driving. What's to say he didn't just buy it outright? Once it was known he was on the show, I'm betting he could get financed, knowing he's going to come into some sort of money from being on the show. The dealer probably even approved the financing (before knowing what sort of winnings he had), knowing it would be good advertising for Butch to be seen in that truck. |
Gidget | Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 06:15 am     People buy new vehicles every day! You don't need Survivor to do it. In fact in my area there's a dealer that advertises if you have "a hundred dollars and a job" they will put you in a car LOL. Maybe Butch won a vehicle and traded it for the one he really wanted. I have been hugely disappointed with Matt which makes me think the editting of this show may be different than anything we've seen. I'm secretly hoping for a secret Butch/Matt alliance. Even the vote for Christy could have been part of that. Butch doesn't vote Christy on purpose to keep the alliance secret. Would be a good twist doncha think? |
Hermione69 | Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 08:12 am     The reason we are reading so much into Butch driving a new vehicle is that he reportedly said that if he wins, one of the first things he is going to do is buy a new truck. CBS will not release the prize vehicle to him before the episode airs, so he couldn't have traded it in yet for something he preferred. Of course he won't have his winnings yet either, for wherever he ended up (F5, F4, etc.), but the knowledge that it was coming could have made him go ahead and get it. |
Hermione69 | Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 08:16 am     But of course it could mean nothing at all. We LOVE to overanalyze things here! |
Alaginger | Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 08:27 am     The ultimate survivor in the Amazon is crowned as the reality series wraps up its sixth edition. In the two-hour episode, the four remaining players are whittled down to two and the seven-person jury decides the winner. “I would never have predicted this final two at any point,” reports host Jeff Probst, who adds that the answers given by the duo at the last tribal council have a big impact on whether they get a vote. The big change this time, explains Probst, is that the concluding vote takes place immediately following the last immunity challenge. “There's no time to think about it,” he says. Ginger: Notice that Jeff says he could not have predicted "at any time". I'm thinklng Jeff at any time might have predicted a win for Rob, or a win for Matt.....but none of the other 3. I found this to be a very interesting quote. Of course, like Hermie says......"We LOVE to overanalyze things here!" |
Csnog | Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 09:47 am     Jeff never thought that Matt would last from the begining. Even Matt confessed (on camera)that he didn't know how to play the game. What he has said to the camera and how he is REALLY playing the game is another. His biggest challange was his alignment with Ryan and Daniel but he got passed that. Matt has clearly thrown challenges. Matt knows how to keep out of arguements and observe the players and his surroundings. Most people have discounted Matts play but I don't and hope he wins now. I would imagine that all the players know their pay scale. Butch would know how much he will be paid once the show is completed. Right now he would get 55k for 5th place and that jumps to 75k or 80k for 4th place so he would have enough to buy a car. |
Alaginger | Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 09:50 am     I've been watching the video promo at the CBS Website. For those that don't get that, and especially for Hermie who can't hear what they are saying, during this confessional Heidi is saying, "Having Jenna voted out works to my advantage".
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Gidget | Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 10:58 am     since you brought it up csnog, do you know what the breakdown of individual paydays is? Someone said this week that Christy could enjoy her $50K. I was surprised. I didn't know the non-winners got that much. |
Csnog | Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 11:57 am     Gidget, It starts out at $2500.00 for 16th then $5,000.00 for 15th and 5k more per boot until the final 4. |
Alaginger | Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 11:58 am     Csnog.......I was just looking for your old post while you were already posting. You posted this one on: Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 07:28 pm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OK here it is. 16th $2,500.00 15th $5,000.00 14th $10,000.00 13th $15,000.00 12th $20,000.00 11th $25,000.00 10th $30,000.00 9th $35,000.00 8th $40,000.00 7th $45,000.00 6th $50,000.00 5th $55,000.00 4th $75,000.00 3rd $90,000.00 2nd $100,000.00 1st $1 million |
Webkitty | Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:19 pm     Ginger, could you tell me where you saw that quote by Jeff saying that he never would have predicted this final 2? I have been looking and looking and can't find it anywhere. This seems like such a huge spoiler for him to give away. (I would think) As far a Butch buying a vehicle. He said in his pre-show bio that he would buy one if he won. He has already made about $50,000, even if he gets booted next. If he wanted a new truck that much before he even started the game, I can see him buying a new one as soon as he got home knowing he would come into money. There are all sorts of deals out there for 0 interest, he probably financed it. Maybe he does win the vehicle this week, but its not what he had his heart set on. Maybe he figures to invest the money he won and when he takes delivery of the new one, will sell it. Also, I though of something. What if ChillOne's intel on the F2 female got mixed up in the translation. (got it backwards) What if the girl was considered hot in the beginning but not at the end? This could be Heidi. As far as CO's intel writing down the name "Jana" as the F2 female, I don't know. I thought "deaf girl" goes F4 was pretty solid evidence, but now I don't know what to think. I don't think CO is a hoax, he is still holding to his Butch, Matt, Jenna finish, but still....I'm all discomboomberated now. My mouth was hanging open on Thursday. Plus, my mother called this morning and was a little irratated, since I PROMISED her Heidi was going. lol. |
Alaginger | Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 01:01 pm     Hi Web, Ohhhhh........it's not nice to upset your mother!!! (LOL) About the quote from Jeff: I was rambling through the spoiler threads at Survivor Sucks this morning and saw that and thought it was very good to remember at this point in the game. I have read it before, awhile back, and I was mostly paying attention at that time to the fact that the players will leave the last challenge and go straight to tribal council. Evidently the F3 person, just goes right over and joins the jury without having had benefit of chatting with anybody. Also, the F2 people will start answering questions right off the bat without having had a chance to think about what they might like to say. I remember reading this, like I said, awhile back.......so it was probably somewhere in our threads. What caught my attention this morning was the other part of the quote about “I would never have predicted this final two at any point,”. I'll see if I can find out again where I got that from this morning, and also where I've read it before awhile back, and I'll get back to you....... |
Alaginger | Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 01:54 pm     Okay........I found it......took a while, but I found it. Survivor Sucks.....under the spoiler section....thread entitled SIA Spoils the Winner, on page 5, there is that post by dawsonleery on 4/30/03. I have no idea where that person was quoting it from.......all I know is that I quoted it here from his quote........so if it is a mislead.......sorry!!! If you go to our thread about Episode 13, you see a large part of that same quote......the part about the questioning taking part right after the last challenge is over and then the voting. But that first part about Jeff would never have predicted those F2 is not part of our Episode 13 thread. Also at Survivor Sucks, they have an Episode 13 thread and it starts with the same quote that our thread starts with......so I don't know where dawsonleery got his/her information. If I see any further reference to it.....legit....I'll come back here and highlight it, but meanwhile just disregard it!!! |
Webkitty | Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 02:07 pm     I found it over at Sucks in the SIA thread (about Matt winning) The poster that posted it there never sited his source, so I'm still leary that Jeff actually said this. He must know we are out here hanging on his every word. Saying that he never would have predicted this final 2 gives away a lot. First, if Jeff did say this, then that means Rob is not in the F2. He has been playing the game harder than anyone this season. I think as Jeff watched Rob along the way he might have predicted that he would get to F2. Heidi has done some scheming, and probably more than MB showed us, so same for her. That leaves Butch, Matt and Jenna. ChillOne's final three. Going on this, I would say its Heidi or Rob that goes next. TDT is saying Rob wins the car. That is always the kiss of death. On the other hand, Heidi is shown saying voting off Jenna could be to her advantage. Jenna is sick and has given up. Mis-direction. I'm hoping Heidi will say she is willing to vote off Jenna TO Rob, and just not in a confessional, and bells will go off for Rob. Heidi is there to win. She needs to go now. Maybe Milkshakey was just off by one week. |
Tweety | Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 02:56 pm     Maybe the final two Jeff wouldn't have predicted are Jenna and Heidi - remember he also said something about "magical" with regard to their relationship? On another note, while ChillOne is wrong about Christy in the F4, we still have the spoiler about the two CBS employees betting on Matt and Jenna as the final two. |
Alaginger | Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 03:14 pm     Yes Tweety.........thanks for reminding us of that very useful bit of information. There is so much to absorb, and then to retain......that it is really hard to shuffle it all around and come up with the same thing twice!!! |
Hermione69 | Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 04:23 pm     Wouldn't that be hilarious if that was a false leak that CBS put out to give credence to the Chill One spoiler?? |
Alaginger | Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 04:24 pm     Hermie...........bite your tongue!!! (LOL) |
Auntiemike | Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 05:00 pm     OK, I will toss this out: Butch and Heidi as final two. Is this a possibility for all you spoiler people who know so much more than I? I do not have a good memory bank, nor the access to all the sites so rely on you to get the info. Wouldn't it be a shock to see these two at the end? |
Hermione69 | Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 05:27 pm     I think Butch and either one of the girls would be a final two that JP never imagined. I'm still wondering if we have an alliance that hasn't been shown a la Tina and Colby. Seems doubtful at this point unless it is Butch and Matt. |
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