Helen Glover
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Riviere | Friday, December 20, 2002 - 02:09 am     Oh, Helen, Helen, HELEN! Cheated on by a slick wannabe actor used car salesman, why in the world did you not get Jan with you earlier? I guess Helen and Jan do have a million days to rethink where they went wrong when they stupidly allowed the men to get them to vote against each other.. Riding on Blondie Brian's coattails was so easy, all the gals had to do was get rid of the eternal slacker Clay and the game was theirs.. Brian had to pick Clay as the least evil to win, but Helen put herself out of the running last week by not making it clear to Jan they had to ally up! I'm so disappointed that none of my faves won. The worst is knowing Helen could have been final 3 if she acted on her instincts with Jan to boot Clay their first chance.. Oh well, she lived & maybe learned something about misplaced trust... |
Tatyana | Friday, December 20, 2002 - 04:31 am     I still like Brian and am glad he won. Clay was right, if the others were in their shoes they would have done the same thing (don't know about Ken though). |
Rslover | Friday, December 20, 2002 - 08:40 am     I'm glad that Helen gave a good speech and tongue lashing to "the boys." It reminded me of Sue Hawk. I just wish that she broke up that alliance. She could have pulled it off and she deserved to win. As far as the money goes, yes I believe C.C. gets half of Brian's winnings. I'm not condoning what she did to him but he was supposedly passed out drunk and their baby was crying. She just reacted badly in a bad situation. |
Fluff | Friday, December 20, 2002 - 08:43 am     I don't like Helen. She played Ted too, which is why I don't understand why she was upset when she got a taste of her own medicine. Sorry, but she is no Susan. I thought it was hizzelarious when Clay snapped back at her. Heheheee! |
Squaredsc | Friday, December 20, 2002 - 08:51 am     ok, slipping into the way i normally talk at home here..... helen was off the chain last night, she totally put it down, she did the da*n thing like it needed to be done. the only thing she didn't do was point her finger or snap them. she broke it down. ok, going back to proper english. hind sight is always 20-20. she played a great game and should be proud of what she accomplished. and she looked great too. i also wonder what it was that she said to ted, but im kind of glad that jeff didn't go into it any further. it would have opened up a whole can of worms and taken the spotlight off of the game itself. |
Fluff | Friday, December 20, 2002 - 08:54 am     Heheheee. You are off the heezy Square. |
Squaredsc | Friday, December 20, 2002 - 08:56 am     fo sheezy, thanks fluff.  |
Misslibra | Friday, December 20, 2002 - 09:27 am     I'm glad Helen told them how she really felt. And I bet Clay is pissed about what ever Helen told Ted about him. I think that cost Clay the million. Because Ted just might of voted for Clay to win the money if it had not been for that. As it is Helen said she would have changed her vote after seeing the show for Clay to win instead of Brian. |
Car54 | Friday, December 20, 2002 - 09:49 am     I was so proud that Helen did not let her emotions take over...sometimes when women (like me!) get that angry, it turns to tears...and men tend to discount what you are saying. She let them have it in a way they could hear and understand. I am proud of her. I think Clay wanted to talk about the racism thing this morning on the Early Show and he never got a chance. He said some of the things he got from the jury came as a total surprise, then Julie cut him off and they never came back to him. I hope it is addressed in their chat on Monday at CBS. I think he deserves a chance to tell his side... Ted was not very specific last night and I didn't feel like Clay had enough time or info to deal with the issue. |
Grooch | Friday, December 20, 2002 - 09:56 am     Car, what is sad is that it seems like none of these people talked to each other after the show. I guess not one real friendship developed out there. You would think Ted and Clay would have discussed the race thing once they got back to the states, to clear it up. And Helen was still bitter about Brian. She said she would have changed her vote to Clay after she watched the show. You would have thought Brian would call her up while the show was on air, and explain or apoligize to her. She was very loyal to him. |
Lancecrossfire | Friday, December 20, 2002 - 10:02 am     I don't think it will get addressed in anything (chat, interview) associated with CBS. I think it is something they will stay away from. It sounds like there was the perfect chance to deal with it today, with all of them present. I think Ted was going to vote for Brian either way. He might have thought about it more though. Ted seems to be someone who keeps his word (remember when Rudy voted for Rich his reason was because he gave his word). Some people are willing to keep their word no matter what is done to them, because to them their word isn't based on the other person--it's based on the fact it was given. As far as Helen being asked what she said, I think she would say what it was, then tell everyone it was Ted who took it as racist--that she didn't say Clay was being racist. Just a prediction. |
Denecee | Friday, December 20, 2002 - 10:29 am     The one thing that I did not agree with Helen is when she said that she had three knives in her back after getting voted off. Excuse me, Helen, didn't you vote Jan off so therefore you put a knife in her back and they cancel eachother out! That's what ticked me off about the people who got voted out, they were even upset with the one they voted to be out of the game. I really like Helen especially after hearing her on our local radio station this morning. She has a big heart. |
Seamonkey | Friday, December 20, 2002 - 10:31 am     This morning Brian and Helen claimed to have made up. Who knows? I doubt if their paths would cross anywhere but Survivor related gigs anyway. |
Weinermr | Friday, December 20, 2002 - 11:10 am     <and men tend to discount what you are saying.> Some men perhaps. Not all men. |
Meggieprice | Friday, December 20, 2002 - 11:40 am     I was really impressed when Helen said, as she voted, what is between you and me is between us and I am a bigger person who can look beyond myself...etc.etc. etc. (not exact words obviously!) and voted based on his work and performance. Then she blemished it a bit saying she would have voted differently if she had seen the show. I wonder if that is really true. |
Car54 | Friday, December 20, 2002 - 06:42 pm     Well of course not you Weiner. All the girls would vote for you at Tribal Council, and we would never yell at you. I find it interesting that Ted did a lot of press after his boot, but he said nothing to pave the way for what happened in the confrontation with Clay at TC. I guess I think it might have come up if there was indeed racism happening in that camp. I think it came to the fore when two very upset players got together after their boot. Meggie, she said this morning that she would have voted for Brian no matter what. Brian said in chat today that Helen apologized to him later for how angry she was. I think she was trying to be funny with Jeff by saying it so emphatically on the show. |
Grooch | Saturday, December 21, 2002 - 10:41 am     Glover and out! Helen reflects on the Survivor game 12/21/2002 BY ANDY SMITH Journal TV Writer LOS ANGELES First came a long gauntlet of television interviews. Then the autograph hounds, the amateur photographers, the fans, the well-wishers, a pesky reporter. Helen Glover, Middletown's contender in the CBS "reality" hit Survivor, breezed through it all, apparently having the time of her life. "Are you kidding? How many times do I get to do this?" Glover said. She looked elegant in a sleeveless black top and a long black-and-gold skirt. You'd hardly know that Glover didn't win the $1 million first prize, instead becoming the first of the show's final four contenders voted out during Thursday's night's two-hour finale. But now the show was over, and Glover was making her way through a cold, rainy California night into a big heated tent at the CBS Television City complex for the Survivor: Thailand party. Inside the tent, decked out to look like a Thai fantasy with bamboo trees gold Buddhas and elaborate parasols, was food, liquor, lots of TV screens replaying the finale, and a big noisy crowd -- media folks, network employees, advertisers, relatives, fans and Survivor alumni. When Glover ran into a former Survivor cast member she recognized, such as Lex van den Berghe of Survivor: Africa, she greeted them with cries of delighted recognition and another round of pictures. "Survivor is an experience that can't be replaced, short of a war-time situation," said Glover, a swim instructor for the U.S. Navy in Newport. "I always wished I could test myself at some level, and this was my chance." Glover said the TV episodes didn't convey the extraordinary heat of the Survivor location, an island off the coast of Thailand where the temperature would get well over 100 degrees. Nor did the show convey how hungry everyone was. She said watching herself being voted off the island was a painful experience, particularly since the vote against her was engineered by one-time ally Brian Heidik, who would go on to win. Glover said that while she was on the island -- Survivor was shot in June and July -- she had no idea Heidik was so devious. A California used car salesman and former softcore porn actor, Heidik, 34, was the most calculating and manipulative player since Middletown's Richard Hatch in the first season. "I didn't get to see all that footage of Brian, so I didn't know what he was up to," Glover said. "Brian was very smooth. I never had a clue." When Glover got to interrogate Heidik as a member of the "jury" of exiled cast members that gets to choose between the two final candidates, her anger leapt out of the TV screen. Yet she ultimately voted for Heidik against Clay Jordan, a Louisiana restaurant owner, who she considered lazy. "Brian deserved it more than Clay," she said. (In a later appearance on CBS's The Early Show, Heidik said it took patience, listening skills and a bit of deviousness to win the game. "I liked a little bit going left, and saying I was going left, but then going right," he said.) Glover's 18-year-old daughter, Kiki, was with her parents in the after-show party tent Thursday night. "She held her own on the island -- and she went out with a bang," Kiki Glover said of her mother. "She's a strong woman, no one can push her around, and I think people appreciate that." Watching her mom on TV every week, Kiki added, was "an absolute blast." Already inside the tent was Helen's husband, Jim, who eventually went outside next to the men's room to smoke a cigar. Jim Glover achieved his own measure of Survivor fame when he ate a spoonful of ants, a tarantula and a scorpion in order to win a 24-hour visit with his wife. Also inside the tent was Helen's sister, Vicki Hankins, who lives in San Diego. Hankins said that because the two sisters live on opposite sides of the country, they don't get to see each other that often, so watching Survivor was a special treat. "It was interesting psychologically to see how she interacted with adults, since most of my memories are of us as kids," Hankins said. "She did an excellent job. I thought she should have won." Hankins noticed an interesting phenomenon after Jim Glover's bug-eating exploit. "That was the episode where I lost my name," she said. "I was no longer myself, I was Helen's sister, who had the husband who ate bugs." |
Grooch | Thursday, December 26, 2002 - 01:57 pm     Here's an interview with Helen. She does mention a little bit about the racist comment, but not much. I get the feeling that Clay may have said something that was / or could be considered racist, and Clay is completely oblivious to it. Cost him a million dollars though. "RNO: Did you say something to Ted about a racist comment made by Clay? Helen: I was asked a question and answered it directly. Ted asked me if I had ever heard Clay make a racist comment and I said "yes" I didn't want him to make it a part of his final question because it had nothing to do with his and Clay's time out there. I don't know where it came from but didn't want to lie. I did not reveal the statement that I heard. When Brian was asked, he also admitted to hearing it." Link |
Seamonkey | Thursday, December 26, 2002 - 05:05 pm     Also gave some insight on how it would be trying to work with Jan in an alliance And interesting what she said about Jan getting such a hard time from Clay, because they showed that in early episodes but sounds like it was more serious than that. |
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