Archive through October 30, 2002
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Archive through October 30, 2002
Mssilhouette | Friday, October 25, 2002 - 09:01 am     Well I watched the sappy "i've grown, don't vote for me" revelation. Personally I think Robb is gonna continue to be a jerk, just not as big of one. Which is growth in some degree. He's young and childish and I really doubt that he will change that much once he gets home with his friends. Maybe if after he has a free moment to watch the tape between getting modeling offers (c'mon you know it's coming) he'll grow up more. That campfire wine drinking confession/relization was more about saving himself than anything. Also I felt the heavy hand of Burnett manipulation for a storyline about a jerk who transforms. This was a weak storyline but it made for a nice ending. basically "aww we don't have to hate him too much cause he's gonna be the Survivor darling afterwards" I'm sorry but one revelation doesn't really account for his insensitive and frankly unwarrented reaction to Shi. Through his whole enlightened moment nothing was offered towards her. So I might be cynical but ahhh somehow I don't think Robb transformation is even that. More of a "I don't wanna get voted out and I screwed up" moment. Well he's gone and now I can enjoy the game and Shi-Devil a little longer. |
Hermione69 | Friday, October 25, 2002 - 09:12 am     I agree he was not nice to Shii, but neither was she to him. They both rubbed each other the wrong way from the get go. Why is that all his fault? In the end, he was nicer with his final comment to her during the vote than she was to him. By that time, its too late for self-serving manipulation and I find comments made during voting (not Tribal Council itself, but when they hold the name up and comment) to be much more honest. His was nicer than hers. So I am curious as to why he is so much more at fault in their not getting along than she is? I like Shii, but see clearly where she played a role in their relationship not being very nice. |
Spunky | Friday, October 25, 2002 - 09:13 am     I picked Robb (no duh??!!) to go but I was surprised to see how unanimous that was, he had no allies at all, not even ken... the poor chap, he grew up allright.. |
Kaili | Friday, October 25, 2002 - 09:17 am     I don't think she was any better- she sat around and talked about herself as being so much better than him, calls him an idiot, etc. She wasn't any better. I don't remember the exact final words of each. I now she said she was just starting to like him and he still had to go. I don't remember his last comment exactly except for that it was nicer than previous ones. I think it was just a matter of personalities that don't match up very well. |
Hermione69 | Friday, October 25, 2002 - 09:20 am     Kaili, they were both nicer, but in the end she still called him a fool! It was a good proverb, though, and probably quite apt. I don't think anyone could argue that he isn't young and immature! |
Alegria | Friday, October 25, 2002 - 03:41 pm     Robb was great because he brought out the worst in everyone. I'll miss him Robb, good luck dude (follow your bliss and FIX your 'do)  |
Risa | Friday, October 25, 2002 - 07:03 pm     My reaction to Shi was the same as Robb's and I'm a senior citizen. I also would like to know who put Ken in charge of making sure Robb"grew" as a person. I guess now that Robb's gone the viewers will be stuck watching Ken and Shi play king of the hill. I hope they both get voted out soon. |
Grooch | Friday, October 25, 2002 - 07:43 pm     Ken & Shi are my 2 favorite people! I will enjoy watching them play King of The Hill, and kick everyone else off the hill. <grin> |
Csnog | Friday, October 25, 2002 - 08:01 pm     I just wanted Robb to stay until the merge. It would have been GREAT to see how he interacted with the Chewies and I bet Ted and Brian would have taught him a few things for what he did to Clay. |
Kmjm | Friday, October 25, 2002 - 09:49 pm     I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this, but my absolute favourite Robb moment was when the first vote for him was revealed spelled Rob and he said something like "TWO B's, MAN!!" I just cracked up at that. He clearly had some kind of personal epiphany out there, and good for him, but when you're in the really shallow water, you don't have to wade out too far to get deeper! |
Meggieprice | Friday, October 25, 2002 - 10:03 pm     LOL Kmjm! |
Wendo | Friday, October 25, 2002 - 11:16 pm     Hermione69, well, at least around the campfire Shi took the time to say to Robb that she realized he was a good person, despite their differences and the fact they didn't get along. Robb didn't do that. Shi's not a fav of mine either, but at least she tried to make some kind of amends. Too bad he didn't. Maybe at the final show... |
Risa | Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 12:00 am     Robb kissed enough ass around the campfire the night before when they were drinking. It was plenty to ease their insulted egos. |
Misslibra | Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 01:11 am     Bye Robb, can't say I'm sorry to see you go. He clearly had some kind of personal epiphany out there. He sure did, he had the uneasy feeling his butt was going to be the next to go. |
Hermione69 | Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 05:06 am     Wendo, no live feeds... he may have responded at some point. We don't know that he didn't. There is an awful lot of tape that winds up on the floor because 72 hours has to be squeezed into 40 minutes. |
Fanny | Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 05:42 am     LOL Misslibra! |
Cricket | Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 01:07 pm     Spunky, I was also surprised at the unanimous vote. It seemed that earlier in the day one of the females (can't remember her name)was clearly sticking up for him and was his friend. I still think Jake has a lot of pull with that team. That's why I don't think Shiann will be the next to go. |
Sallycat | Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 06:44 pm     If one wants to believe this week's Enquirer (and I do) Robb was in withdrawal from a heavy pot habit while he was on the show. The article gave the names of where he works and goes to party, so I guess someone in the area can go check it out. |
Risa | Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 08:09 pm     I knew he was a toker, good for him. |
Jane_Bond | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 07:37 am     Um, withdrawal from pot? Medically impossible - it is not an addictive substance. Now, slight withdrawal symptoms from alcohol, maybe. |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 08:05 am     That marijuana is not addictive is a myth. It does not cause medical addiction in the strictest sense because you do not need increased amounts to get the same effect (I got this from a medical encyclopedia), but the psychological addiction is huge and very real. Anyone who uses it regularly and quits cold turkey will likely have some psychological withdrawal symptoms that probably affect their behavior and their mental state of mind. I was married to a pothead and his dependence on it was real and the effect it had on our marriage was awful. Here is an article about marijuana addiction: The Nation; Parents Warned on Pot's Toll; Health: Drug policy chief says the effects of pot on youths have been downplayed. An ad campaign is planned to alter perceptions. The Los Angeles Times; Los Angeles, Calif.; Sep 18, 2002; Abstract: In reality, more teens enter rehabilitation centers to treat marijuana addiction than alcohol or all illegal drugs combined, [John Walters] said. Full Text: (Copyright The Times Mirror Company; Los Angeles Times 2002. Allrights reserved.) The nation's drug policy director warned parents Tuesday against trivializing the dangers of marijuana to their kids, warning them that more teens are addicted to pot than to alcohol or to all other illegal drugs combined. Many parents and children have outdated perceptions about marijuana, said John Walters, director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy. They believe marijuana is not addictive, that it's less dangerous than cigarettes or that it has few long-term health consequences. In reality, more teens enter rehabilitation centers to treat marijuana addiction than alcohol or all illegal drugs combined, Walters said. "Our effort is to correct the ignorance that is the single biggest obstacle to protecting our kids," he said as he announced an advertising campaign by his office and 17 education, public health, anti-drug and family advocacy groups. The national effort will include advertisements on television, radio and print media, along with ones that will air in NFL stadiums and appear inside game programs. "For too long, our nation's teens have been getting the wrong message about marijuana," Walters said. |
Bastable | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 09:25 am     Everything is addictive if you grow attached to it. How many people do we know who do things like leave answering machine message for their kitties while they're away from home? To me, that's a scarier attachment than pot any day. Compare it to the damage that booze does. How many people get high on pot and then start a barroom brawl, or beat up their wife, or abuse a date? Nearly no one. You smoke a joint, and pretty much the only thing that's endangered is the lifespan of a pizza. Our country is so messed up. A sniper kills a dozen people and no one says a peep about gun control. But a pothead admits he's a pothead and people shake their heads saying we oughtta banish all illegal drugs. We're really out of balance. |
Whit4you | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 09:38 am     Herm.. ya I was thinking the same thing... I spent many years with a pot addict and that 'not addicting' was a line I heard many times lol. The line is legit - in that there are certain physical medical aspects that are lacking in the pot addiction as compared to say a heroine addiction. But other then that - the line is pointless. The majority of my pot smoking friends are 'casual' smokers - unlike with say 'meth' or 'heroine' which has few 'casual users' But folks with teens - they do believe this line 'that it's not addicting' - so it's important to point out the potential to them... at least let them know it can ruin their lives like most other drugs, that it's not 'safe' because of the medical aspects. I don't think it really matters those prone to become pot addicts will probably do so anyhow but at least they will walk into it with their eyes open and not say 10 years later when they've spend every dime they ever made on pot and have nothing to show for it except for millions of dead brain cells... that they were told it's 'not addicting' I doubt though that Robb is a serious pot addict because a serious pot addict is NOT going to put themselves into a situation where they can not get stoned for 35+ days lol. |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 10:52 am     I gotta disagree with "You smoke a joint, and pretty much the only thing that's endangered is the lifespan of a pizza" and that people who call their answering machines to leave messages for their kitties are scarier than an attachment to pot. While the latter is extremely weird, who is that person hurting? People who smoke a joint can be dangerous in other ways; for example, recent research into the correlation between driving while stoned and bad traffic accidents is compelling. People who have a regular habit can be very damaging to themselves and in their relationships with others. My ex would spend money on weed when we could not pay our bills. He couldn't keep a job and he had no drive to do anything. Again, research shows those are very typical symptoms of regular marijuana use. He was also extremely abusive and I agree that the abuse rarely occurred WHILE he was stoned, but his addiction worsened the abusive behaviors when he was sober. It cause a lot of health problems. One joint does the same damage to your body that many cigarettes does. I know this is off topic, but I feel like perpetuating the myth that pot smoking is harmless is unsafe. Nobody is saying it is a more dangerous drug than heroin or coke, but it is damaging, nevertheless. Ultimately we make our own choices, but we should make them with the right facts. Whit, I agree with you that Robb probably is not a serious pot addict! You hit the nail on the head with "a serious pot addict is NOT going to put themselves into a situation where they can not get stoned for 35+ days lol." Heck, a serious pot addict would probably not even have the get-up-and-go to apply for the show! |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 01:00 pm     I think Robb just showed his obnoxious personality, pot or not. My ex was one of those who reacted to pot by getting paranoid, delusional and definitely a threat to himself, others.. don't know about pizza. I'm not saying he was in the majority, but it wasn't a pretty sight and in each case others who joined him had no unusual reaction so it wasn't thought that he was getting pot laced with something else. I also found Robb's comment about getting wasted amusing since at the time he was emoting, he was.. getting wasted |
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