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Mygetaway

Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 12:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Didn't see this one yet. Taken from Survivor Fever.

It would make you think that one team is down and needs to do something desperate to stay alive, or that one particular Survivor seeks desparate measures to keep from being the bootee that week.

If you were there what offers could you make to someone else not to vote you off?
Part of your share of the food? The clothes off your back? Always voting with that person? Hmm.. Are those even desperate measures? What do you guys think?

Grooch

Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 12:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe it has something to do with the weather affecting them? A monsoon or something hits?

Alaginger

Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 06:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This may be way off base......but what if measures refers to measuring something in a challenge of some sort.........or refers to measurements .... like guessing measurements of teammates and closest to correct answer wins immunity? I mean, if I wanted to win immunity, I would be "DESPERATE" to get the right "MEASURES" or "MEASUREMENTS". Like I said, probably way off base here!

Car54

Thursday, November 07, 2002 - 04:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Clues from Survivor Fever:

Episode 9 Title: "Desperate Measures" Airdate: Nov 14
"News from home draws sharp responses from the castaways that could impact one contestant's future in the game. Also, one alliance tries to infiltrate a rival group."
A ninth contestant is voted off the island

Car54

Friday, November 08, 2002 - 04:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Clues from the CBS Site:
News from home draws sharp responses for one Survivor and may impact that person's future.

A group of Survivors renew their vow to one another and concoct a plan to get one of their own to "infiltrate" the others.

Meanwhile, other tribal allegiances fall by the wayside as one Survivor vows to "stir things up."

Alaginger

Friday, November 08, 2002 - 04:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
From the show "highlights", news from home appeared to be videos or pictures or something like that, and references were made to brand new fancy cars showing up in the pictures and maybe that survivor didn't need to win the money as badly as others might.

I think SJ renew their vows to one another and concoct a plan to "infiltrate" CG ... as inferred by Jake on last night's show.

Also, I think it was Jake last night who said something about "stirring things up". Does anybody else remember that?

Fruitbat

Friday, November 08, 2002 - 06:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes I do Alanginger...

I think Jakes cars show up in the video. Helen said that to her team.

Jake already said to give him time with Brian (infiltration plan to get Ted and Brian to go with them to F4) and he and Ken talked about dispelling the notion that Ken was a threat. (good luck on that one)

They could also decide that Penny be the one to get cozy with the women.

I see pagonging despite all of these well laid plans. What could anyone from Chewy gain from aligning with any of them?

The spoiler putting Penny in F4 is gnawing at my brain however.

Webkitty

Friday, November 08, 2002 - 07:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bat, I still think its Brian's cars. Yes, Jake is set financially, I'm sure, and probably has a really nice truck/SUV or two. (He's a land broker, I can't see him tooling around the countryside in a Cady. He's rugged.)
But, Helen said cars. I can see Brian being set financially also. Both he and his wife have done tv/films/modeling. He lives in Cal. He might sell used Porches/Jags/etc. (that he would get to bring home)
I can see him having expensive cars vrs trucks/SUV's.

Also, I reviewed the tape of the promo shot last night. Brian is highlighted seperatly from the rest of them in the shot right at that voice over. I mean, obviously highlighted.

I just have a feeling its Brian. I think Helen's comment is a mis-leading clue, because I also believe the spoiler that says he makes it to the final 4. It might be a factor in voting him out at the end, but not right now.

I also believe all the speculation and spoilers that say Penny makes F2, if not the winner. ERin said on the Early Show this morning, that she was surprized and hurt by the vote. She said she is friends with Ken, and they have talked. She is still waiting to talk to Penny and Jake about the vote.
Plus, you know how I get when I get a bee in my bonet about something Survivor.

Hermione69

Friday, November 08, 2002 - 07:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I just can't see Penny winning. If she is in the F2, then CG will have the numbers on the jury and I don't see them voting for her. Of course, a lot can happen before then, but I anticipate CG staying loyal to each other. The only way I see her winning is if BOTH of the F2 are from SJ and that seems highly unlikely. I would like to know where you are reading the speculation and spoilers that put her in the F2 or winning it. I've only come across one and it puts her in the F3 or F4. Do you have any links? I would love to read them.

Hermione69

Friday, November 08, 2002 - 07:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the merge will occur this episode, and if it doesn't, I think they will still all come to TC so the jury can watch and listen to all of them. MB may prod things along, but he is big on the illusion of fairness, and not giving the jury that insight into ALL of the remaining players would strike too many people as being unfair.

Another reason I think the merge will occur this episode is the voiceover comment at the end of last night's show that said, "The scramble to the finish line begins." "Scrambling to a finish line" very much gives an image of each person out for themselves. The use of the word "begins" also indicates a switch to individual challenges otherwise, it is the same old thing, so what is beginning? They like to do those plays on words... that's part of how so many people on the boards realized a merge was never promised two episodes ago when it was expected.

There is, however, early speculation at Dork that Helen is the one to go. They think it will still be tribal and that Helen has gotten a lot of face time and could easily, by now, keep off the weight she has lost. We really thought Ken would be going last night from the face time, though, so I'm not banking on Helen's departure. She supposedly came home about 30 pounds thinner. If she left now, she would have over two weeks on the jury. How could she not put some back on? I think at least one more SJ will go first.

Fruitbat

Friday, November 08, 2002 - 07:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Webkitty. I did not record it and wanted to see that promo again. Brian was my next likely suspect seeing as that he is a used car dealer and probably has connections.

Webkitty

Friday, November 08, 2002 - 07:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi Herm, I can't post a link (webtv) but if you go over to SS, they have lots of spoilers/speculation about Penny.

You make a good point about CG members not voting for her to win if she makes it to F2. I want to believe that, so I'm going to

I like Helen and hope she stays awhile.

Car54

Friday, November 08, 2002 - 08:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Brian sells used cars. When the cast was announced I read somewhere that people at his dealership were shocked- they had no idea what he had done when he was away.

Hermione69

Friday, November 08, 2002 - 08:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I like Helen too.

I want to believe that National Enquirer article that says Penny does not win. If that is true, then she shouldn't even be in the final two. Also, supposedly, Clay goes to her wedding. Why would he be invited? If this is true, Penny and Clay are more likely to bond on the jury than in camp where they are not only split by tribal lines, but Clay was the one paired with Shii Ann that day and Shii Ann filled his ear with "watch out for Penny" so he is probably keeping a wary eye on her for now. So maybe, Penny and Clay will be on the jury before too long so they can bond. Awwwwww.

Car54

Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 01:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Vidcaps from this week's previews show the CG's in gold colored buffs.

Looks like the merge.

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Hober

Monday, November 11, 2002 - 08:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
the merge is definetly this week. I participate in the yahoo survivor pick 'em game and this week the bonus question is:

Which survivor will win the first immunity challenge this week?

Instead of:

Which tribe will win immunity challenge this week.

Whoami

Monday, November 11, 2002 - 09:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well Hober, that has been the bonus question for the last two Survivor episodes on Yahoo Pick 'em as well. We keep picking individuals, and then nobody gets bonus points cause it was still tribal. But I agree. I do think they finally merge into one this episode.

Risa

Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 02:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The one infiltrating the other tribe sounds like sneaky Penny. The car thing could be Clay. Helen mentioned before that Clay was well off and didn't need the money.

Jo_5329

Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 04:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yahoo has been behind the curve on the merge for the last couple weeks now. I've given up picking over there because they don't have their act together about the merge and who was winning the IC.

Jo
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Hermione69

Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 04:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
http://www.truedorktimes.com/s5/spoilers/

For episode nine speculation. I love reading their speculation. They are now leaning away from Helen and towards Ken since the merge looks like a sure thing.

With the way this season has been going, I'm kind of wondering if it will be Penny!! MB seems to be very in touch with the spoiling community and what they look for. He has fooled the serious spoiling community but good a few times this season.

Risa

Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 02:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I still say, they will get news from home. Clay's news will be his wife telling him she bought a new car. Penny will be voted off as the chewys did not buy her kiss up routine and have already been warned about her from Shii Ann.

Fruitbat

Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 06:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I say the cars belong to Jake. I want Penny to go just to dispel the spoiler but I don't see her as being close to first on the hit list. Seems Ken is the likely target but I am going to say Jake.

Car54

Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 08:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think if Helen pulls that "deserving" crap on Brian, he will boot her out. I would.

Fruitbat

Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 09:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I would too. Some STILL insist on need as a reason to stay.

I would love to see an upset or twist of somekind on Thursday. I refuse to believe pagonging is ahead.

Grooch

Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 09:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I get the feeling that Helen only says this because they have to decide whether they vote off Jake, Penny or Ken. Since they see the brand new car in Jake's garage, she says they should vote him off first, since he needs the money the least.

Like how Tina voted off the old guy instead of Elisabeth, because she really needed the money.