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Awareinva

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 04:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Rain.... BINGO!!! Her two points were excellent and logical. Maybe more of the crew should have been working on the shelter but food has to be a priority too. How much of the arguing was people being crabby because they were hungry?

And I was sitting in disbelief that NO one seemed to be questioning how their hut was being built. Have these people never seen a house built??? Expecially in rainy areas/seasons!!! YOU PUT IT UNDER ROOF AND THEN FINISH THE INSIDE!!

and cc1976, part of my reason for not being more understanding of Robb's position stems from the way he was handling himself. "Dude, let me see your hands, let me see your hands, let me see your hands" at the top of your lungs is not going to get any reasonable person to want to listen to the point you are trying to make! Even if his points were valid (and they may have been- we all know how Mark B only shows us what he wants us to assume! ), yelling and accusing are not the way to get people to listen to your arguements.

And um, if this was directed toward posters:

CC1976 wrote "Does this all stem from Robb saying they have the "hot chicks" so everybody who is not considered a "hot chick" hates Robb because of that?",

then no on my part. I definitely wouldn't qualify as a "hot chick" but that didn't affect my feelings about the disagreement between Robb and Shi Ann. I wasn't sure if you meant everybody (posters) or everybody (Robb's teammates).

Twiggyish

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 08:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the term, "hot chick" is funny..LOL

It shows Robb's maturity level.

Chiparock

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 12:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I love her spunk! When she refused to let Robb push her around, she became my new favorite Survivor. Then she gave me a good laugh when, discussing Stephanie's skinny-dipping, she said: "No one is going to see MY ta-TA's"!

Gotta love the "Shi-devil"!

Hunter

Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 05:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Who knows how Rob got those blisters on his palms.

Someone said he was swinging from a vine...Maybe he was plucking his chicken.

Either...fits his personality.

I like Shi Ann...But then...I like strong...intelligent women and don't feel threatened by them like mindless people who call everyone...DUDE

Ya know what I mean...Dude...Crooked grin

Rosa

Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 07:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am with you Eliz 87 as my 1st impression of her was bad. Right away I thought it was very arrogant and slightly childish to refer to herself as "she devil" is that suppose to impress someone? Then she compounded it by saying "mess with me and get the horns" Please, give me a break. I couldn't really understand what her and Rob were going on about so I won't take sides in that but it looked like she kept yapping at him when he was trying to work and she appeared very annoying. However if Rob was pulling the alpha male thing then he was wrong to do that too. I will watch more to see if She devil is going to be a pest.

Snee

Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 08:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i like her.

--she-snee

Bettyrubble

Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 05:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I could see Shii Ann in the final 3 easily. I think she may have what it takes.

Squaredsc

Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 05:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i don't really have any strong feelings either way for shii-ann, but i do wish she would have shown robb something and i don't mean her hands.

Realtvfan

Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 09:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm a fan of hers. I hope she stays in this game for a long time. Mark Burnett really likes her because she has become the most frequent spokesperson for her tribe.

With all the tape they roll for all 8 of the survivor's candid moments away from their tribe, Mark Burnett seems to be using her candid moment tapes to describe the tribe situation very frequently.
There is much less of Erin, Penny and Stephanie's candid moment thoughts.

Good for her. Go she-devil.

Wiseolowl

Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 09:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I like her too. She is smart and perceptive. The triumverate of Robb Stef and Jed is now down to two. But it's not enough for the entire game to be the philosopher queen and point out what everyone else is doing wrong . At some point, she has to step forward and use some of those talents which we think she has and which she says she has.

Fluff

Friday, October 04, 2002 - 05:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
She's not a She-Devil. She just likes to complain.

Harkonnen

Friday, October 04, 2002 - 12:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My wife and I both like Shii Ann, she's the smartest one on that tribe amongst a few lunkheads. I do agree with Wiseowl that she better start showing her smarts to help out the tribe or she will be gone.

Kendalia

Friday, October 04, 2002 - 01:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I had no strong feelings one way or the other about her until last night's show. I found that she was saying the exact same things about many of the people in her tribe that I was sitting at home thinking. She is clearly less than impressed with some of them, just as I am.

She has her head on straight and can be nice and biting in her remarks when she wants to. I hope she goes far.

Niceguy

Friday, October 11, 2002 - 08:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Shii Ann has to play 'nice' and I think she attempted that in being a cheerleader during the food challenge. That of course could have been at the director's prompting.

Everybody has guessed already that she's pretty smart but smart won't necessarily win hearts and minds.

Bastable

Friday, October 18, 2002 - 09:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I like her. But the fact that Robb and Erin are completely ignorant and xenophobic may eliminate her by the end. That they thought it weird and gross that she would eat chicken neck and livers (like, oh, all of Asia, Africa, South America, and Eastern Europe would) just spotlights how shallow and ignorant so many Americans have gotten. Robb and Erin live in a Froot Loops suburban fantasy land. Unfortunately, their vote counts just as much as everyone elses'.

Grooch

Friday, October 18, 2002 - 10:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey, both Jake and Ken like her. And hopefully Rob will be the one to go next from that tribe. :)

Jagger

Friday, October 18, 2002 - 10:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't like her, she gives me the impression that she is better than them. It seems like she is putting everyone else down. An example when they lost the first immunity challenge she stated that she knew exactly how to do the puzzle but she wasn't going to tell them how to do it.

It also seems to me that if she says something or does something that it has to be right and if you don't agree than there is something wrong with you.

She just plain gets under my skin.

Tabbyking

Friday, October 18, 2002 - 11:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
my father always loved the turkey neck at thanksgiving. and i put the meat from the neck along with all the giblets, (heart and liver, etc) in my stuffing. umm, ummmm.

Catfat

Friday, October 18, 2002 - 11:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think maybe some of you are reading ShiAnn all wrong. My best friend is Japanese (I am caucasian) and we have talked about this issue at some length. According to her, people view Asians as being smarter and harder working than most people, but when they are successful, they are resented for it. And there are always the subtle ways of ostracism, such as inferior seating in a restaurant or being made to wait for service in a store.
The arrogance perceived in Shi Ann is probably her reaction in the face of being shut out of the circle, i.e., rather than make a loud, pushy, big deal out of it, she goes quietly about her work, offers intelligent opinions in a kindly way, makes an attempt to be polite and reserved. It is all starting to get to her, though, especially in view of Robb's overbearing, loud, gross, uncalled-for remarks which border on racial hatred.
As to her eating liver, heart, neck, gizzard, etc., it is common in Arizona country (where I am from) to fry up these parts along with the rest of the chicken and eat everything. I was not grossed out one bit.
The trait I admire most among all people is high intelligence, and if Shi Ann is intelligent she has a right to strut her stuff. Is she acting like she is better than everyone? Maybe it is her way of keeping her pride intact. Jake seems to appreciate her for what she is.
As far as losing the immunity challenge on purpose, Penny or Erin both said that it is time to do some house-cleaning and get rid of some people. They didn't help much either. It is part of the strategy of the game to get rid of people and that is what they did.
I like Shi Ann, and I think she has done an amazing job, considering the way she has been treated by some of those nasty mall-rats, especially Robb. OK, I'll say something nice about him--He has good teeth.

Chiparock

Friday, October 18, 2002 - 11:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bastable, you are SO correct in your observation regarding the ignorance and xenophobia of Robb and Erin. Clueless Robb should be gone soon, and Erin, who seemed to take her cue from him, won't have her puppetmaster. Since Shii Ann has the apparent support of intelligent and worldly Jake, it may be that she is a part of his alliance, more so than Erin.

I had liked Erin until last night. Now I hope Shii Ann uses her horns on her! But what I REALLY want to see is Shii Ann kick Robb's butt (figuratively, of course).

Hermione69

Friday, October 18, 2002 - 11:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
For about 5 years, my best friend in the world (9th grade until my freshman year of college) was a Korean-American. We were inseparable until she joined the Navy when she was 19 or 20. In high school and middle school, she was often overlooked or ignored. I don't think people even realized how often that happened to her. She was the prettiest little thing, but most of the all-American boys in my high school probably did not even know her name. I don't know that I am really going anywhere with this except I guess to say that cultural biases unfortunately do continue to exist.

I don't know that is really what was going with Robb. I think he is just a buffoon sometimes and is probably an EOO-- Equal Opportunity Offender. He and Shii Ann really get on each other's nerves. I think Shii Ann is rude to him also, so I see it going both ways with those two. Erin, however, I'm not sure where her animosity towards Shii Ann comes from. That caught me by surprise. I really loved Jake's boosting Shii Ann's spirits. That propelled him to share the number one spot on my list.

My mom is a farm girl and I know she eats the neck and all that stuff! Normally I don't, but I can't imagine I would pass those parts up in a situation like Survivor! I saw nothing wrong with Shii Ann's approach to the chicken! I had to laugh at Robb saying she was gross. For heaven's sakes... none of them have had access to soap or shampoo in over two weeks. They have no toilet paper or napkins of silverware. I think social niceties flew out the window a long time ago!

Jeep

Friday, October 18, 2002 - 11:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't have one drop of Asian blood in me and I don't think it's unusual to eat all parts of an animal. As a kid, I was taken to all kinds of "butcherings" mostly hog and there was nothing left to waste. Fat was made into lard, organs were cooked to eat or put into sausage, etc. That was considered good country eating. And my grandparents & parents & in-laws lived well into their 80s and 90s.

These people picking on Shii Ann are acting like spoiled city brats. They are showing their ignorance about different ways of life other than their own.

Shii Ann seems to be a hard worker with a very high work ethic. She doesn't tolerate laziness very well. My hubby is the same way. He just can't see why people just want to slide by instead of working hard to get ahead.

Ok, stepping off my soap box now. Guess I'll get blasted.

Jane_Bond

Friday, October 18, 2002 - 11:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Chip, I'd probably pay to see Shi kick Robb's butt in R/L! He'd run off crying, "she's beating me up! Ow! That hurts!"

In the spoiler thread I wrote about my theory that Robb is feeling inadequate and sexually rejected by the much more powerful Shi Ann and so is twisting his attraction into hatred.

And, I think Robb's teeth are over-bleached. Not meaning to offend anyone with mentally challenged family members, but Robb looks retarded. He is a sad example of the kind of human being modern suburban America is creating.

Edited to add that I am a city girl and my fave parts of a whole turkey or chicken is the neck, liver, kidney and heart. In fact, everyone in my family fights over these parts as soon as a bird comes out of the oven!

AND, as I can't be stopped, if I was on that island I would have just as little patience for Robb as Shi does. He is effing stupid and there is no excuse for that!

Car54

Friday, October 18, 2002 - 12:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think what is being perceived as arrogance in Shii Ann is mostly her playing to the camera. Steph said in her interview this morning that they wanted to make "good TV" out there, and Shii Ann does a lot of talking in her confessionals, but really I can't recall her having much to say with the other players...the only conflict has been with Robb...and that may well be just a personality thing. Jake seems to like her and Ken...

Am I mistaken or was the last vote not read last night? So if we assume that Robb and Steph voted Shii, we don't know if Erin voted for her or not. Wouldn't be the first time they let Robb think they agreed with him and then acted otherwise.

Lancecrossfire

Friday, October 18, 2002 - 12:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The last vote was not read last night, however on the Survivor site under "tribal council" they posted the voting results. Steph and Robb voted to boot Shii Ann--everone else voted out Steph.