Archive through October 31, 2002
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Archive through October 31, 2002
Risa | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 01:43 pm     Well, personally, it's none of my business if Robb smokes or not but I agree with you Herm. |
Risa | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 01:48 pm     I ment I agree with Hermione 69 |
Risa | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 01:51 pm     LOL, I take it all back, I do not agree with Herm 69. I didn't read all of the post. Sorry about that. |
Denecee | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 02:11 pm     Bastable, I just want you to know that I am more worried about the terrorist, probablility of war and the like than I am about people who smoke pot. I'm definitely not worried about Robb's pot habit. |
Car54 | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 03:35 pm     Wow, gettin very Big Brother in here. <Bastable, don't mess with the kitty people..they are everywhere> I think the pot explains Robb's hair. |
Bastable | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 03:51 pm     My point exactly, Denecee. There are much bigger problems to worry about in our violent country. If booze can be legal, so can pot, which is about as dangerous. We should worry about the clear and present dangers, like guns that kill the equivalent of 3 and a half times as many people as September 11--every single year in this country. Or that malaria, which claims millions every decade, is still uncured while a cure to male pattern baldness is being aggressively researched. Let's keep it all in perspective. |
Bastable | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 03:52 pm     By the way, the Canadians (and the Nevadans) are about to legalize marijuana. Perhaps Robb should take up snowboarding and move north. |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 03:58 pm     I know, Car. Oops! Should I start a Zen thread?? LOL! Seriously folks, I am not worrying about whether Robb smokes pot or not. That is ultimately his choice. I'm not as prissy and moral as I may come across. I was simply reacting to the statements that pot smoking is harmless and non-addictive which I strongly (can you tell?) believe to be untrue. But like with any drug, if you choose to use it, you accept the risks along with the enjoyment and the benefits. I would have no problem with marijuana being legalized, but I guess that really doens't belong here because I am already way, way, waaaaaaaaayyyy off-topic!!! I guess I should say something more about Robb. Anyone know what his hair looked like on Letterman the other night?? |
Car54 | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 04:00 pm     Looked just the same...he must have used his Early Show hairdresser for his Dave appearance. Herm...just keep telling yourself..."it is only Survivor". You will feel better soon. |
Denecee | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 04:06 pm     Bastable, is Nevada voting to legalize for medical use only? I thought I read something on that. I agree that pot should not be illegal. I have many responsible friends who smoke it. I do know a couple of people who are not responsible and smoke it, but they would probably still be that way if they didn't smoke it. |
Sallycat | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 04:09 pm     The article in the Enquirer said he stated he hoped to use the experience to rehab himself. Only he know what that means. Coming home had proved difficult and he was back to his usual. He is probably enjoying his fame right now. |
Bastable | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 04:40 pm     Yeah, Denecee, NV is looking at legalizing it for medicinal purposes. Canada is looking at equating it with alcohol so that kids don't find their lives totally ruined if they're caught with a joint. Italy, Spain, and Portugal are already on that page. It's ironic--throwing stoners into prison for owning a bag of pot will destroy their lives much worse than if the government just let it slide. Saddling them with a felony for their rest of their lives, denying them the vote forevermore (in many states), exposing them to that toxic jail culture--all just for for owning a bag of pot! Our laws are doing much more permanent damage than smoking the actual joint! I really hope that there aren't some cowboy cops out there who try to catch Robb in the act and try to make an example out of him. Hey Robb--clean up fast! Now that you've admitted you like doobies, you're a police target! There are people out there who would like to use your fame to destroy you! |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 04:49 pm     I'm more worried about a terrorist attack than Robb getting caught by a cowboy cop for smoking pot. (Sorry, Bastable, couldn't resist! ) |
Twinkie | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 05:08 pm     I know someone personally who smoked everyday for a while and then quit with no problem at all and did this several times over a period of years. Never missed a day of work, only smoked at night after work. Never had an accident but did get the munchies. LOL Anyway I personally think smoking pot is no big deal and probably only "addictive" for those who can become addicted to just about anything. I think it should be legal. Let the stores sell it and the gov gets the taxes. Gets rid of pot drug dealers and brings more money into the gov. And doesn't ruin anyone's life. I don't know about other places but in NY state it is a misdemeanor for less than an ounce. Pay a fine. No big deal. I was a hippy as a teenager so smoked lots. When i had my child I quit. Easily. A few years ago (child is now 31) I took it up again. About 3 years ago I quit again. No reason. Just didn't feel like spending the money on it. I had no trouble quitting and don't miss it at all. |
Kaili | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 07:32 pm     I'm with you Twinkie- I smoked for years- then I realized that it basically just made me tired and hungry so I stopped. A few years later I had a roomate who smoked a lot so I did every now and then but I never cared if I did it or not. I personally feel that is a more common result for most pot smokers. It's not a need but rather something you choose to do because you like to. Even if you like to do it a lot and frequently, that doesn't necessarily mean it's something you need to do, or feel you need to do. I did it again about a year ago one time then haven't again since although I have been around people doing it. |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 07:41 pm     Everybody who takes a drink does not end up an alcoholic. Everybody who smokes a joint does not end up a pothead. That does not mean they are not addictive substances. I think a great deal of it probably depends on the individual's brain chemistry. Robb and Ghandia's threads started more hot topics than anyone else's thread! I wonder if there is anyone left that has the capacity to get the boards hopping like those two did? You think? |
Kaili | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 07:51 pm     I hope so...maybe...ahh...who knows. There sure wasn't much interest in Jed when he was voted off, or in Tanya, or in (who else was there???)... Maybe we can make something interesting. Maybe a dental practices/anesthetic debate? I prefer novocaine, but if they want to give me the gas too I'm fine with that. Hmmm...not going to be a hot topic. I can tell already. I don't know, somebody will do something or say something eventually to get us going again. I hope, I hope, I hope. I've gone through the drug debate already a few different times on this board. If not, this is going to be a boring Survivor! |
Catfat | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 09:42 pm     Kaili, You've got to go over to the Ken thread, there are two pictures of him up, one is his Survivor picture, the other is a B&W nude shot, which might be Ken's head pasted onto someone elses body. Big debate going on as to what is phony and what is not. Woo woo. |
Kaili | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 10:02 pm     Ohhh...have I been missing out..and I thought I have been keeping track pretty well of everything going on in all the threads. I guess I haven't been to that one in awhile. Last time I checked the discussion was whether or not Ken was using 911 as a way to win. I decided to bow out on that one. |
Hermione69 | Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 03:57 am     Kaili, LOL! Good try! Personally, I like the gas better than the novocaine. And when I had surgery a few years ago, I relished the shots of Demerol! I was like, "Bring it on, baby!" I think Clay may get us riled up. We can debate about whether he is a misogynist or not. That should get some tongues wagging. |
Jane_Bond | Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 06:55 am     H69, you completely don't get the point here. Pot is not addictive, period. It just isn't. Alcohol, caffeine, narcotics, yes, these are all physically addictive. The reason most people don't become addicted to addictive substances is because they do not suffer from dependency issues which is why they seek to use a substance so often that it becomes physically addictive. Loser portheads who lose their motivation because they smoke all day long are using pot the same way alcoholics use alcohol. They do not become physically addicted to the marijuana. They don't even become psychologically addicted to marijuana. They believe they require a filter for the world. It could be 20 cans of coke, a box of ho-hos, whatever. For a "pothead" it's marijuana. Now, this summer, I myself purchased a quarter. Since I consume pot at a snail's pace (I often forget I possess it for a month at a time, and when I bought the quarter, I still had about 1/16th of an ounce left from the previous summer that I just never got around to smoking!). Well, this summer, I announced to my DH and best friend that my goal was to be a "chronic". I aimed to have a little toot every day, often before bed (to help with my insomnia). I was motoring along in a blissful blue fog (and stuffing my pretty face more often than was required by my body!) until we peed on a stick and rejoiced at being suddenly pregnant! And, I stopped smoking cold turkey. I did it, not because there is any medical evidence that I could find regarding the ill effects of marijuana on little baby (it is treated like a cigarette, esentially an oxygen blocker, but since it isn't smoked with the same regularity as cigarettes, it's considered virtually harmless - beef liver is considered more harmfull to baby!), I stopped because I tend to chain smoke when I'm high and I was trying to cut done on my cigarettes. No ill effects whatsoever. No cravings, no shakes and tremors, no vomitting, no violent urges, no disorientation - no withdrawal symptoms whatsoever. The problem with pot is a little like what they say about guns: guns don't kill people; people kill people. And, yeah, I think Clay is a major misogynist with a short man complex. But that's a topic for another thread... |
Hermione69 | Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 08:07 am     Despite personal experiences in my life that also lead me to believe pot is addictive, I can show you medical encyclopedias that say pot is addictive and harmful to your health. I can show you other non-biased, reliable sources that say the same. Most sources that say otherwise are questionable in origin and usually put out by people with a vested interest in the topic. I work in a library and have access to lots of different materials. No offense, but I would trust a medical encyclopedia over a poster I've never met on whether or not pot is addictive. |
Hermione69 | Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 08:15 am     But obviously we are going to have to agree to disagree and quite frankly I am sick of this subject. I do not know why I even responded, except maybe because you directed your post to me. |
Jo_5329 | Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 08:20 am     Guns don't kill people -- people kill people. And if you get all the guns banned --- hurray for you --- then you better go after baseball bats, steak knives, kitchen forks, razor blades, fingernail files, screw drives, saws, etc etc etc .... .the instrument of use doesn't matter --- people kill people. |
Brenda1966 | Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 08:28 am     Hermi69, I'm hearing you. I have a friend who is a shrink and lived with a man who was addicted to pot. YEs, an addiction can be psychological. During this time she did a lot of research about the long term effects of heavy pot use and would support you 100%. She found that chronic pot abuse even causes physiological changes in the brain. Everything in moderation. Yes, alcohol, cold medicine, even tylenol can be damaging when it is abused. So can pot. As for the novacaine vs gas -- I have to have both! |
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