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Jkm

Friday, November 22, 2002 - 05:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Is Jake sick? His voice is so faint and gravilly. He looks like he can barely walk. To listen to him now reminds me of the wife's voice in On Golden Pond... Katherine Hepburn, I think?

I like Jake -- I still would love if Jake and Jan were the last two -- they started it -- they finish it.

Jake looked totally shocked that he got left behind on the reward challange.

IMO I'll stick with what I said the first week -- It think Brian wins....

Fruitbat

Friday, November 22, 2002 - 05:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Another possibility is that Brian gets Jake to go with he Ted and Clay and vote the women off.

Jake is in the cat bird seat. He isn't going anywhere next TC.

Fruitbat

Friday, November 22, 2002 - 05:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I can see Brian winning this easily.

Nicoleme

Friday, November 22, 2002 - 06:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
is there no survivor next thrusday since its thanksgiving? it said there was a special one on wednesday night but that was never before seen footage and other stuff...no "new " show until the following thursday? if this was answered somewhere else, i apoligize...

Webkitty

Friday, November 22, 2002 - 06:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I just saw Penny on The Early Show, I want to talk about it! Should I start a new thread!

I think she threw out some good spoilers....

<sits and waits>

Jkm

Friday, November 22, 2002 - 06:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes a post boot interviews thread.

(((jkm sits ignoring the work on her desk waiting for news)))

Webkitty

Friday, November 22, 2002 - 06:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
OK, I'll start it now.......

Hermione69

Friday, November 22, 2002 - 06:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Nicole, yeah, no new show Thanksgiving Thursday. We have to wait two weeks for the next one. Next week, the Wednesday show, is recaps only.

Webkitty

Friday, November 22, 2002 - 06:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The recap show is always a bore. They build it up but there is really nothing new.

Agh! Two weeks! I can't wait that long!

Squaredsc

Friday, November 22, 2002 - 09:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
hey guys, you all did a great job spoiling. gal, you did a better job than i did. i can't believe that i didn't even tape it and it sounds like it was more interesting then ken talking about peepee, lol.

interesting speculations. even though i haven't seen the show, i have gotten a good impression of it from all of the posts. im thinking that jake may stick around for a bit longer and possibly clay will be next.

Fruitbat

Friday, November 22, 2002 - 09:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I can see a tie as well.

If Jan and Ted are aware Helen chose to share her info with only Clay and Brian they could align with Jake. 3 on 3 would produce a tie between Jake and ???

Zipsdaddy

Friday, November 22, 2002 - 10:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Can someone please explain what motivated Jake to vote for Jan???
Surely he felt he was going, and knowing the majority would vote for him or Penny, why risk getting caught voting for Jan??? Did Clay really know that Brian and Helen and Ted were voting for Penny?? I have it on tape, and when Brian and Helen says the snake must go,... #1... Clay clearly asks.. "who, Jake?" and they agree...Did anyone else catch this?? Then Ted walks over, and asks Brian "are you OK with this..." Somehow I think Ted has a stronger alliance with Helen and Brian than we know of, and the decision to vote off Jake was changed to Penny...

Fruitbat

Friday, November 22, 2002 - 12:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
We really only see snippets of selected conversations. Somewhere along the line they changed to Penny. MB would not show them selecting the real bootee.

Jake was hoping until the end that it would be Penny and not himself. He must have thought Jan was best choice because he did not want to rile the stronger players. That is my guess anyway.

Seamonkey

Friday, November 22, 2002 - 01:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
A little-known fact about those Thai monkies..

There is a long-standing tradition and they name all of their baby-monkies "Magilla".. so just as in George Foreman's family.. all are named the same..

So.. that was a Magilla, I hope, as far as MediiaWh*re goes.. I need the points.

Tabbyking

Friday, November 22, 2002 - 01:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ha!! george foreman's little namesake georges, even the girls... what an ego.

oh no! we have the george foreman griller--what's next, the magilla griller?! that would be killer!
i need the points to. that WAS magilla!

Kaili

Friday, November 22, 2002 - 02:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, Jeff did say at TC that it was a late challenge and they didn't have much time to get back to camp, get their stuff, and go. Maybe there wasn't time to clue Clay in on what they were planning to do...

Realfan

Friday, November 22, 2002 - 03:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I still see Brian coming out the winner. Jake does, too. But he's so toast next vote. No question.

Seamonkey

Friday, November 22, 2002 - 03:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Snortle, Tabby..

They won't have to dismantle the camp.. Magilla and family will take over for them..

Shortnsweet

Friday, November 22, 2002 - 04:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here is a video of Clay talking about why he voted for Jake:

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor5/video/week10/s5video_13.shtml

Csnog

Friday, November 22, 2002 - 06:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, heres my 2 cents worth.

Clay knew that Penny was going.

Clay threw the vote in to Jake as a warning.Plus Clay is afraid of Jake getting an in with the others.

Jake voted for Jan so as to not make the men mad at him. Jake knows Jan would probably not hold it against him.

Jan might think that Penny voted for her.

Car54

Friday, November 22, 2002 - 09:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Exactly Csnog. He pulled a Big Tom. Tom did this several times to "warn" someone. He knew he had the votes to boot Penny, so he could afford to send a message to Jake.

I agree that Jan might assume it was Penny, the CG's will be able to do the math on this. Jake's vote for Jan works in his favor. He proved he would not vote against someone he had a deal with...no matter what. Jan is the CG least likely to hold a grudge. He had to vote for someone, Penny was the last of his original tribe..Jan will understand.

Risa

Friday, November 22, 2002 - 11:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Penny so needed to go. Good ridence. She is just like a spoiled little high school cheerleader-ugh. No, I do not want to hear from any former cheerleaders or those who think they were.

Zipsdaddy

Sunday, November 24, 2002 - 11:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Providing Jake wins the next immunity, who might be the next to go?

Rewatching the torch snuffing.....
Helen's first move was to snuff Clay.....
Helen gave two snuffs to Brian, and she knocked him out....
Helen also chose to snuff out Jan before Ted.....
Then she knocked off Jan when she could have chose Ted to go first.....
hmmmm......
Why irritate Clay and Brian and Jan when she could have been snuffing Penny or Jake??
hmmmm...