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Csnog

Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 07:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Voting has been completed before they come home. The only thing that is seen by the jury is the TC.

There are still 2 more players to be eliminated who will NOT be on the jury.

It is clear that Robbs story line is coming to a conclusion and then there will be one member going to LL after the merge.

MB should be showing us what these people are about. We know about the cave tribe but very little about the hut people.

Maybe the hut people are just boring and MB has nothing to show us.

Gail

Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 08:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Usually what gets each show going and drives up interest is some kind of drama or backstabbing or strategizing or if the viewers decide they really don't like someone ALOT.

During BB2, it was kind of when Jeri started in on Kal and the beef jerky. During 3, I think it was when Silas pulled that backstabbing thing and pitted younger against older. During 4, I can't remember but it seemed like Boston Rob was kind of in the thick of it.

If they make them change tribes like the did the past 3 Survivors, maybe that will change things. Though, something to consider, they all had a chance to change the other day and nobody did it.

The challenges this year aren't as physical, though there is some physical strength needed. This helps keep people from being voted off because they are weak. So far, we haven't seen the inevitable challenge where they are force to eat gross things.

I think maybe one thing I see missing is we are not seeing really tight relationships forming. One other thing I factor in, is typically in the early part of each Survivor, there are so many people that they don't focus on any one person enough. Now that there are less people, we might start seeing more - case in point, the lady who was eating with her fingers. They are now at a point where little things like that are bugging them. All it would take is for one person to say to her "Please don't do that".

Spunky

Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 08:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I remember getting more involved in the game when the teams merged and everyone was playing individually...so maybe it will happen again this time.

Draheid

Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 08:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"During BB2, it was kind of when Jeri started in on Kal and the beef jerky."
Uhm, Gail, I don't remember any Kal or Jeri in BB2 ... was there one I missed? :O

Gail

Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 09:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Duh - sorry, I was up too late last night. I didn't even realize what you were saying until the 4th time I read through it all.

Llkoolaid

Tuesday, October 22, 2002 - 07:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The best part of survivor for me is coming on here and discussing what is going to happen next week and trying to figure out who is with who and what they should do. We are not doing that this year. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that we just are not shown much of the alliances. Are they all playing it quiet because Vee won by playing UTR , I hope not, that will kill the show. That was one of my main worries with BB and Danielle being beaten by (god I can't remember her name). I hope we don't have a bunch of sweethearts on BB next year. That will kill it too.

Another reason that I think interest might be down is because of all the crap that is going on in the world. We are on the verge of war, all the terrorism and this maniac who is shooting innocent people. Survivor would take a back seat to this even if it was the best one yet. I find myself glued to CNN more than the computer.

I am going to hang in there though because I love the so called reality tv and hope things heat up. Things will probably get better after the merge.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, October 22, 2002 - 07:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have noticed that too Kool. There is very little hunting for spoilers and discussing them or much speculation at all. No discussion of strategies or excitment.

It seems like a no brainer that Robb or Jan will go this week. We only have to guess who wins IC to know the answer. (I think Sook will throw it to get rid of Rob)

Maybe the format is just old. I am not into it anywhere near the level I have been before.

The merge may perk things a tad.

Csnog

Tuesday, October 22, 2002 - 08:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't look for the Suckies to "throw" an IC just to get rid of an irritant. Better for them to go into a merge 6-4 than vote out anyone.

We are not shown any discussions between the contestants and that is what is missing.

Hermione69

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 04:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"Another reason that I think interest might be down is because of all the crap that is going on in the world. We are on the verge of war, all the terrorism and this maniac who is shooting innocent people. Survivor would take a back seat to this even if it was the best one yet. I find myself glued to CNN more than the computer."

That may be a factor, Llkoolaid. That was it in a nutshell for me for Survivor 3. I've heard talk from different sources that S3 was yucky anyway, but at the time it aired, it was way too soon after 9/11 and, in my personal life, my mother had just been diagnosed with breast cancer. My concept of what constituted a "Survivor" had totally changed and I did not have the patience for the show. By the time S4 rolled around, I was good to go again and loved it. I am enjoying S5, but not as much as I enjoyed S2 and S4. (I didn't watch S1 until close to the end). You are right in that there is a lot going on that makes it seem kind of silly.

Fruitbat

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 05:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Csnog, I agree. We have not seen any relationships forming aside from Ted and Brian.

Sook is convinced that Chewy is tight so it does make sense for them to fight for IC.

Bastable

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 12:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I keep abreast of what's happening in the world, but I don't let the incessant fear tactics of most TV "news" programs ruin my life. I wish we'd all say Enough! to the news programs that constantly try to stoke the fire of our fear with inflammatory words, endless repetition of scary news stories, selecting only the most terrifying news to put on TV, implying our kids are about to be killed, etc. I'm bloody sick of CNN and NBC and FOXNews and the rest trying to make us all scared! Makes you wonder who the most sophisticated terrorists really are.

If you're an average person and you're too scared or sad to be able to entertain yourself and enjoy "Survivor" for even an hour, you've got it bad. I advise you to go outside and smell some freshly cut grass or something else realistic.

Fruitbat

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 01:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with you 100% Bastable. We have lives to live and unless we reside in the immediate area of this most recent threat we can certainly enjoy a TV show.

Car54

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 01:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree. Last year I had a hard time getting into S3 at first...it started so close to 9/11 but in the end, it really did provide a little break from all the bad news. A little one hour of pure entertainment in the week.

Chance

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 02:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bastable,
Great post !! I am tired too, by this climate of fear the media and politicians push. I just saw Bowling for Columbine on Sunday. It touched alot on the fear climate as well. A good & thought provoking film.

Hermione69

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 03:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whoa! What happened here? I don't think anyone meant to imply people shouldn't be enjoying Survivor right now, but were only putting forth theories as to why some people may be "not feeling it" as usual. People have the right to feel the way they feel for whatever reasons. The climate in the world this past year is part of why Friends had a resurgence last season. People wanted Comfort TV, not Reality TV. It's valid, whether we understand it or not.

Fruitbat

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 05:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nothing happened Herm, just posters expressing their opinions. All is well and stimulating as always. :)

It's Okay to get testy when something triggers. It is what makes this board stimulating. I LOVE that part of this board and without it I would be gone.

Llkoolaid

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 05:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah Herm, no harm at all, but thanks for the support. My post was just a suggestion of how some people might feel, not how I feel. I have learned that sometimes you need a thick skin when you make a post because some people will react strongly if they disagree, it's just their opinion and it's all good. I actually agree that people do need a break from the stress, and I agree that the press over does it.

Bastable, sorry if my post offended you, I actually agree with you, but I do think some people might be affected by what is going on.

Fruitbat "It's Okay to get testy when something triggers. It is what makes this board stimulating. I LOVE that part of this board and without it I would be gone" I agree 100%

Hermione69

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 06:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am the first to admit that I get sensitive sometimes. Part of what triggered it for me is that I DO live in the southern part of the area that the sniper is targeting. I heard today that on Monday when the sniper made phone contact with the law enforcement, it was from a phone booth that is about 5 minutes from my school. So I can completely understand why some people may not be able to get into Survivor. If I wasn't already into it when this started, I'm not so sure I would be watching much now. I don't mean to get bristly, though. I'm sorry!

Llkoolaid

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 07:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hermione, I find you to be one of the most sensitive and caring posters on here, I certainly didn't find your post bristly.

Take care of yourself, hopefully this will be over soon.

Monkeyboy

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 07:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hermione, I understand what you are posting and i cant imagine living where you live. The people that live in your area have a lot of guts because i know if i lived in that area, i would stay inside all day. It will all be over soon hopefully. My prayers are with you and everyone else.

Now back to the topic, i think this season of survivor is just, well, survivor. To me they are different each year and they get increasingly intersting.

Llkoolaid

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 08:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Back on topic, I wonder if they are going to have to eat gross stuff, it is usually the third show. I won't miss it, Fear Factor has done that to death. I also wonder if the merge will be when it gets down to 10, there have been some changes this year so maybe not.

Bastable

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 08:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Llkoolaid-- Thanks! My post was certainly not about yours... but I will admit that it was "inspired" by yours. My post was really about the frustration I've been having with the news trying to sap enjoyment from all of our lives... and it makes me angry and sad that it's working.

Herm--I'm 100% with you on the right to be afraid when it affects you... which is why I said "average people." I myself live a few blocks from Ground Zero, and I was here on 9/11, so I know of what you speak. But I still hate the news for pumping up the fear every chance it gets. I'd love to sit down in front of a newscast and write down every time they choose words that inspire fear, or they say something about kids in danger, etc.... I'm dead sick of the manipulation that's going on. It's turning us into a nation of hermits, shut-ins, and violent paranoids. (Yes! I loved "Bowling for Columbine"!)

Which is why I love "Survivor!" In the end, it's a positive thing. So much on TV is about cops and lawyers and corpses and emergency rooms...it's hard to find a show that's not rooted in mayhem and nastiness and is simply about entertainment.

That's why even when "Survivor" isn't its best (the Africa season comes to mind), I'd rather watch it than pretty much anything else on prime-time TV. So the issue of "not feeling it" really doesn't come up for me. Even during the lean weeks of the early season, I feel it a lot more than I feel something like CSI.

Ambie

Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 02:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I found that "Survivor" is too predictable this year. There does not seem to be the same excitement this season. No one seems to be interested in finding spoilers this season. This board used to be a discussion of everything happending on Survivor and what might happen -- now it is just a discussion about each Survivor's personality.

Hopefully with both teams going into the merge on equal footing, things should get spiced up a bit.

Personally, I think this will be the last Survivor season for me (unless something changes on the show after the merge).

Llkoolaid

Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 07:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ambie, I was making the same complaint about the board not being as interesting this year, so I thought of a thread that might spark some discussion, "Who is allied with who". Maybe if you can think of a topic that we can discuss that will help too. The board discussion is what I think has kept me hooked on the reality shows.

Jbean

Sunday, November 03, 2002 - 06:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it is because these people aren't as interesting this time. maybe it IS because they don't show much strategizing, as they usually do. but i find myself not caring if i miss the show or not. used to be a die hard, tape if i was going to miss it. not anymore. i'd just as soon watch friends. at least they (the friends) are amusing to watch. :(