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Webkitty

Tuesday, December 03, 2002 - 05:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Enough talk about spiders! Agggg! lol! J/K

I just read back over this thread and realized that I keep changing my mind on what I think will happen this week so let me change it again I have this scenario that I just HAVE to get out of my brain, and you all have my permission to come here and laugh at me when the show is over Thursday when I am way off.
Here goes.

ON THE NEXT SURVIVOR

<The castaways are offered a stunning opportunity that leaves the winner in tears of joy and the losers in tears of pain.>

This has to be the RC. But why is it worded like that? "offered" a stunning opportunity? The relatives show up, I'm sure of it. Maybe the challenge is that the relatives have to eat, or let the spiders crawl on them, but only if the Survivors opt for them to. In other words, lets say, Clay says no way that he wants his wife to have to do that. So he's out of the challenge. He doesn't get the off Island visit with her (just speculating on what a stunning opportunity might be)

I think from the vidcaps I've seen, that Helen (and her relative) wins this. They go off for a luxury day/night somewhere. The only problem with this is that the spoiler out there says that Ted wins it. But, the spoiler says its an IMMUNITY challenge, that gets him further in the game. So, I'm wondering if the relatives stay, and help to compete in the IC. I haven't been able to find one shred of info on what that might be this time, there is usually a good clue in the vidcaps as to what it may be. Why not this week? Because MB doesn't what to give away the SURPRISE that the relatives stay, and come back to help compete in the IC. A big surprise, and another.


<Fallout from the Tribal Council inspires harsh words from one castaway, causing others to criticize the outburst>

This has to be Clay, harping about Jake. The others criticize him.

<One castaway faces a critical decision that could alter the entire game>

Its Helen. She has been in an alliance with Brian and Clay. She questions that now. Maybe she is thinking of forming a new alliance with Jake and Jan to vote out Clay. (Jan wanted to vote off Clay at the Ghandia boot) This could be the critical decision that could alter the entire game. But, if you believe the new spoiler that just came out, Clay makes it to F2. Working back from this spoiler, Brian is safe this week, and Clay. I think Ted is safe (because of the other spoiler that says he wins the IC) That leavs Helen, Jan and Jake.
Ok, so lets say Ted wins the IC. Now its Ted, Clay and Brian voting to boot Jake. Helen, Jan and Jake vote to boot Clay. There is a tie. Jake gets booted somehow,(purple rock, whatever) and Helen's little revolt is revealed. This leads the way for a Helen/Jan boot next. The final three, Ted, Clay and Brian.(that would support the spoiler that Ted makes it to F3) Clay or Brian win the final challenge and take the other.

So to sum it up, Helen wins the RC (with her relatives help) Ted wins the IC (with his relatives help) there is a tie at TC, Clay/Jake, and Jake gets booted. Helen's plan didn't work out and she is next, then Jan. Clay and Brian sweep all remaining challenges. Clay/Brian for F2.

I have been trying to figure out that spoiler of Ted making it to F3, when it seems that Helen has the tighter alliance with Brian/Clay. (and I couldn't see Ted winning enough challenges to put him there from that) This is what I came up with.
Ok, ok, I know the big long speculation about Gina last year didn't pan out, but I have to have one crazy specualtion per year!

Tabbyking

Tuesday, December 03, 2002 - 06:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
webkitty, your scenario could well be right on...i think i would rather have brian win the whole thing than clay...but i would rather have helen win than either of them! that is at this time, of course. things can change in a flash! i can't help but wonder still 'what would have happened with shii ann had there been a merge at the time she thought there was?' ah, the dynamics, although over-all, this has not been a great survivor. i think i liked 'africa' the best.

Fruitbat

Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 04:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Webkitty...interesting. I don't see this happening but it is fun to run with the possibilities.

<One castaway faces a critical decision that could alter the entire game>

I think this is a plan that Jake throws out to Helen, Ted or Jan, as he did in the past, and they appear to consider but do not follow.

<The castaways are offered a stunning opportunity that leaves the winner in tears of joy and the losers in tears of pain.>

This sure seems like there may be a literal translation. We have seen stills of stinging bugs.

I would love to see all of them get to visit with the relatives and participate in the IC but that would make the RC much less valuable and even pointless. Getting a hit of home would jog all back into the game head set even more than they are now. It could cause them to question the alliances they have made. A dose of reality can be powerful.

Webkitty

Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 06:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Question, is this too early for the car reward to show up? Do they always have one? I can remember Colby winning some type of vehicle, and last year Sean won a Trailblazer? but I can't remember Africa and S1.

Jeep

Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 07:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought the car reward was when there were only 5 left, so that would make it the next episode, but I'm not certain.

Lex won the vehicle in Africa - Chev Avalanche?? I don't remember S1.

Car54

Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 08:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It should be the F5. Who is their car sponsor this season...is it Saturn? I don't think there was a car til S2.

Webkitty

Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 10:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think its its Chevy Trailblazer

Car54

Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 11:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That would be ok...anything but that UGLY Aztec...

Seamonkey

Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 11:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
eyemail:

Clay lashes out about Jake's Tribal Council speech, indicating to the others, that Jake's words may have hit Clay too close to home. And, the castaways will compete for the most surprising and valuable reward yet.

Not much added to what we had but "surprising and valuable reward".. wonder what..

Car54

Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 12:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He is just doing that to cover his plan to get Penny's vote.

Djgirl5235

Thursday, December 05, 2002 - 06:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The auto sponsor this year and for Survivor 4 is Saturn - they gave away a Saturn VUE, the SUV last year, and probably again this year.

Whoami

Thursday, December 05, 2002 - 01:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Saturn is the auto sponsor for SV, then why are there Chevy Trailblazer ads all over the SV website?

Webkitty

Thursday, December 05, 2002 - 01:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whoami, you have a good point, and I have seen some discussion about it being a Chevy Trailblazer this year. That's why I said I thought it was that and not a Saturn this year, but what do I know? lol!

Car54

Thursday, December 05, 2002 - 02:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sean in S4 got a Saturn, and then I think didn't Rosie give a car too?

I think it was Lex who got the Chevy truck during Africa.

Queenfish

Thursday, December 05, 2002 - 03:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
After reviewing my tape from last years finale, all of the survivor 4 contestants got a Saturn vue. Rosie had them blind folded, then they ate a gummy worm and they got the car.

Car54

Thursday, December 05, 2002 - 04:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, I thought so, Thanks Queenfish!

I bet the S5 people get bupkis from Jeff.

Webkitty

Thursday, December 05, 2002 - 05:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OMG, OMG, I was right, I can't believe it!!!!! I BLEW OUT MY HUSBAND EARDRUMS SCREAMING!!!!!!!

Webkitty

Thursday, December 05, 2002 - 06:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, I'm calmed down now, lol! There was no tie, but Helen did make a play to vote out Clay, with Jake going. Whew.

I just had this stong feeling that the relatives were going to stay and help with the IC, and I couldn't shake it.

So glad I don't look like a fool! I almost didn't hit that post button above.

Mygetaway

Thursday, December 05, 2002 - 11:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The show is sponsered by both Saturn and GM. Chevy is a part of GM, so who knows what kind of car they'll get..LOL But it looks like they go for a joy ride next week.

Seamonkey

Friday, December 06, 2002 - 01:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Saturn is part of GM :)

Twinkie

Friday, December 06, 2002 - 02:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I still think Brian and Ted are the final 2.

Fruitbat

Friday, December 06, 2002 - 06:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Webkitty. Kudos! Good job. You certainly did nail that.

Webkitty

Friday, December 06, 2002 - 07:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
THANK YOU MsFruitbat!! I was getting a little pouty that NO ONE came here to give me a pat on the back. <sniff>

After all, my poor husband gave up his eardrums for my stunning (imo) prediction. LOL!

He finally had to tell me to quiet down, he didn't want the neighbors to think he was beating me or anything! lol! I was so excited, I couldn't help it. I remember last year when you nailed the Zoe boot, I was screaming for you!! (I love Survivor)

Webkitty rules! Yea! (just have to crow a little, sorry)

Fruitbat

Friday, December 06, 2002 - 07:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Here is another one.....WHOOOO HOOOOOO!!!!

Weinermr

Friday, December 06, 2002 - 08:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Way to go Webkitty!!!