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Micknrc

Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 12:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
From the sweet and always reliable Scott--

discuss

Fruitbat

Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 12:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It could be as simple as Magilla doing some stealing and destruction......or..........

Two leave to get water and others plot against them.

Micknrc

Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 12:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It's been noted that epi 10 is when Lex and Tom went on the balloon safari and when Pappy and Neleh's turtle tattoo took the cruise (anybody feel like a mint?)
So it may be the traditional who gets reward and is gone is then plotted against?

Tabbyking

Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 12:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
well, if guys are 'cats' and gals are 'chicks' then maybe the gals gang up on the guys why they are out, and form an alliance.
either that or 'mighty mouse' flies in. lol

Tabbyking

Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 12:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
mick, wasn't that funny when neleh offered the mint? it was in her mouth, wasn't it?! oh.my.heck. what memories :>)

Fruitbat

Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 01:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It would make sense that Ted and Brian would take each other for a reward (cats), leaving Helen, Penny, Erin and Jan (mice) behind. (I am convinced that Clay is voted out next week)

They scheme to keep the women together until the men are gone. It wont work but they brainstorm the idea anyway.

Micknrc

Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 01:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good thinking, Fruit!

And yes, Tabby, that was truly one of the classic moments of S4! I laughed til I cried....ah, good times, good times.....

Tabbyking

Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 01:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
just re-read my 12:58 post. obviously i meant 'while' not 'why'!
filling out too many college applications for my son...wiped out mentally--and financially, just paying the $55 here, the $70 there, and the fees to send off SAT and ACT scores. sheesh!! i think we have spent about 600 dollars in just the last 2 weeks.
and talk about small towns--i got a call about an hour ago because someone was going down their precinct list and saw i hadn't gone in yet to vote! brother! (i had already sent in an absentee ballot, but let them sweat!!)

Quietstorm4

Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 07:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey Tabby, (I know this is off topic) I got one of those calls too. It wasn't even 4:00 and polls didn't close until 7:30. The funny thing was, they were calling me while I was voting.

Seamonkey

Thursday, November 07, 2002 - 06:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sheesh.. I always have my phone tied up.. miss those dumb calls and I work on the election and vote absentee.. but our rosters are marked ABS so we know.

Seamonkey

Thursday, November 07, 2002 - 06:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The title seems sure to be when someone is off on a reward.. so we think, anyway...

Alaginger

Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 07:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, Yeah.......I can just see two of the BTC trio going somewhere on an award trip, and Penny talking Helen and Jan into joining up with Jake to oust the the BTC trio. If B, T or C wins, the winner should take one of the gals with them to prevent this from happening.......but I don't think they will see that far ahead!.........(hehehehe!!!)

Car54

Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 11:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Clues from the CBS site:

After being shocked by the vote at Tribal Council, one Survivor begins questioning a former ally as a secret plot is revealed.


Two tribemates return from a surprise trek away from camp with full stomachs and a suspicious gift.


Meanwhile, one tribe member preys on the fears of another in an attempt to gain votes and become the Sole Survivor

Seamonkey

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 12:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well that could be Ted, who was shocked, but actually Jake also looked shocked, when he could tell that former Chewies were not voting Ted..

So it could be Ted questioning Brian or Jake questioning Clay.

I notice that Penny has been braiding Jan's hair, like she did with others earlier.. So Penny has done something good to get rid of Jan's earlier hair.

Can't wait to see who goes to ride elephants..

Again I'd wonder if Jake would be playing mind games or Clay.. those two seem the most likely.

Fruitbat

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 06:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jake is odd man out and not apart of any alliance so I doubt he would be surprized by anything. I think he is fully expecting to be lied to and the next to go.

I think the drama is with Ted or Clay. The TC vote must be split and Ted or Clay get more votes than they anticipated. They know to expect 2 votes (Penny and Jake) but there may be a third.

If Penny does stay to close to the end she may align with the women. The women must be feeling vulnerable now seeing Brian, Ted and Clay as a unit.

Llkoolaid

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 07:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Ted is the one who has his fears played on. He is questioning why he got the 3 votes so I wouldn't be surprised is Jake or Penny tell him why, they have nothing to lose telling Ted what their stategy was and that Clay told them that Ted would be the first to go from Chewy.

I think Jake will work on Ted and Penny will work on the girls. Helen seemed upset at what Brian has at home and doesn't think he needs the money.

Jan is mother henning Penny so she might also be easy to sway.

I think it is Clay going because the women don't really care for him and I think Ted is more likely to vote for Clay when he hears what happened. I think they will able to get Helen,Jan and Teds votes this week to get rid of Clay because they will see it as a safe time to get rid of him and still be 4 Chewy's to 2 Sooks. I don't think Ted will go after Brian yet because he will blame Clay and still think he has a chance to get to the final 2 with Brian.

Brian is going to be safe until he loses immunity. Last weeks was purely mental so next week will probably be physical which will give Brian an advantage.

People keep saying that Penny makes it to the end and I couldn't figure out how she could do it, but with Clays little betrayal of Ted and Helen's resentment of Brian's possessions I can see a chink in Chewy's armour. Jan and Helen probably have it figured out that they will be 4th and 5th if they don't get an allie. I can see Helen especially thinking her chances are better if she gets to the final 4 with Jan,Jake and Penny.

Clay and Ted both think they are in an alliance with Brian to the end, they are either both going to be willing to knock each other out or they are going to talk and realize that Brian is using both of them. Brian is playing with fire and I think he will be burnt in the end.

I have my fingers crossed that there will be more than just pagonging in the upcoming episodes.

Ok now everybody rip apart what I just wrote, I miss the discussion so much so come on and argue,agree, give us your ideas of what is going to happen or what should happen.

Fruitbat

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 08:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I miss it too, Kool. I can't refute what you say, it makes sense. I too believe that this is the week to see some disention on Chewy.

The women *have* to realize that Ted, Brian and Clay are strong with each other for the time being anyway.

It is to Jake and Penny's advantage to tell Ted, absolutely!

If Ted aligns with Jake and Penny to vote for Clay he would have to get one more vote. I don't think he can sway Brian but Jan voted for Clay once before so she would be a good place to start.

CBS >>>>After being shocked by the vote at Tribal Council, one Survivor begins questioning a former ally as a secret plot is revealed. <<<<<

OK, so Ted questions Clay but what secret plot are they talking about? I won't put too much stock in this because it is most likely not much or something we already know. Like Jake and Penny trying to get others to their side.

I can easily see Penny slide under the radar as tensions mount on Chewy coupled with the need to get IC threats out of the way fast.

Fruitbat

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 08:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I can easily see Clay going next and Ted soon to follow. I think Brian will survive those two, cars or no. It may be as simple as he is easier to get along with because being careful to keep off toes. His plan from the start is to observe and say little. With nerves raw he will be the last to target of the men. He is sly and sees it is wise to keep a low profile.

Fruitbat

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 09:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Kool, you disappeared on me and no one else showed up for this soiree. <<sits waiting and tapping foot>>

Car54

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 09:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
We see all these opportunities for the least likely to align and save themselves, but they just never do.

I was surprised at how open the CG's were at how they perceive the SJ's. They are pretty closed to any changes in tribe structure.

I don't think Jake had any vibe about how they felt about him.

Also...I thought Ted did a brilliant job at TC...explaining why he went off alone...nothing to fault about missing your baby.

Fruitbat

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 09:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, I remember Africa and all the possibilities and none taken.

I suppose we will see Jake go next. I do think they skip Penny and go after the threats after Jake is gone. If Jake wins IC, then we may see a Chewy go.

Tabbyking

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 10:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i did notice that the editing for the preview (commercial) for survivor had helen saying,(paraphrased) " he has that, he doesn't need to win the money and i would vote him off now." but on the show, she said, "IF I DIDN'T LIKE HIM and he has that...." so on my game, i picked that jake would have the cars, but had i heard the "IF I DIDN'T LIKE HIM" part, i would have picked someone who was on the same tribe as helen. most likely, brian, because ted has a brand new baby, clay seems to have restaurant bills up the wazoo.. it was the editing that got me to think it was someone on the sook jai tribe, which is why i picked jake!

Hermione69

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 12:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i think it is going to be ted and brian on the reward. they fit being the "cats" in the cliche better than anyone else. while they are gone, people explore possible new alliances, or we are led to believe they explore possible new alliances, but in reality CG stays together and votes off jake. or penny. clay is not in any real danger, imho. he can always say he was knew ted was safe and was just messing with the SJs heads.

Hermione69

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 12:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i think jan and ted are closer than we think. they get my vote for a secret alliance. i don't know that there is really a man vs women split on CG the way they want us to think. it has been emphasised too much. can you say "red herring"? so i think CG will stay together and vote out jake and i think they will plan to vote out penny, but she goes on an immunity run and that is how she makes it so far.

Zipsdaddy

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 01:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Perhaps the cats going away are two of the women... If Penny won the trip to the mainland and took Helen, that would insult her remaining tribe member, Jake. According to TV guide, "One contestant wins a trip to the mainland and offends a friend by choosing someone else as a travelling companion. Hey, just don't bring home a mint!!!
Oh my helen!! Errrr I mean Heck!!