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Webkitty

Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 03:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bat, people that were born and raised in Mass. think that other states are actually foreign countries. Especially ones outside of the New England area.
They ususally don't refere to themselves as yankees, but New ENGlanders. (or proudly with chest puffed out, say they are from MASSACHUSETTS)

People from Mass. usually vacation on the Cape or New Hampshire. Some go to Martha's Vineyard or Maine.

Some brave souls venture to Florida in the winter, but would never think of moving here. If they do know someone who has done such a thing, they will not admit to it in polite circles.

But, you live there, so why am I telling you this? I have no idea as this is a Survivor thread, except this is Saturday night and I am feeling a little giddy since it is only a short while until TS comes on.

~tongue in cheek, no flaming from Mass. people, I am an expatriate but still love the darn place~

PS: I'm sure Jan is a nice person in RL too, but on Survivor, I am not a fan. (just to keep on topic)

Turtletrackz

Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 05:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just an interesting observation for what its worth..

All three people who voted for Shi-Devil in their first tribal council are now gone..

Mak1

Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 06:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think I like Jan as a real person, but......this is a thread about who we will talk about now, lol. On the first show, when she cried because she had to pick a team......come on! How did she expect to win Survivor if she's afraid to make decisions? And, like Ginger1218, I'm 49 and my sister is 54. Jan looks more like our mother's age. Not that looks matter, but it baffles me. If Clay talks much more, he might give us a lot to pick on him for.
(But I'm a damn Yankee, so what do I know?) heehee

Tabbyking

Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 06:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
when you think of jan being a kindergarten or first grade teacher, her antics kind of make sense. i remember teaching preschoolers and you do celebrate or bemoan the little things. everything is slightly 'exagerrated'.
i thought it was funny how she yelled, 'see you, wouldn't want to be you!' when she pretended to abscond with the money. when we were little, we had funerals for everything...including gophers my dad flooded out of the lawn, and a tarantula, which i secretly prayed would die because my sister kept it in a mayonnaise jar between our beds and i slept nary a wink for days til it FINALLY died! lol
i love that she looks wrinkled, because she is only 5 years older than me, and i like to think i look less wrinkled than someone out there!!

Meggieprice

Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 06:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was thinking exactly the same thing, Tabby - Jan is acting just like a grade school teacher. I am not nearly as bugged by her actions as I am by Clay's exaggerated unkind reactions.
I admit, also, my dh looked at me during the bat burial because he saw me in that! I am mushy about stuff like that.

But the woman can't be 53. Even a sun baked 53.Can't believe that... (is this a little like the Roddy age speculation in BB?)

Alegria

Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 12:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If I was five and Jan was my teacher I would go bonkers. If something bad happened to me she would make it seem TEN times worse. How would she help us pick teams?

Even if she spent her ENTIRE life in the middle of the Sahara desert she would not be that wrinkled at 53. The woman's face looks like a wrinkled glove for Jimmeny Cricket's sake!

I really do think I hear the theme from Deliverance when she and Clay are getting face time. BUT (just to be fair) here are some things I like about Jan. She is kind. She has an excellent figure (for a woman in her 70's). She did not escalate that situation with Ghandia. She is a survivor!

Risa

Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 01:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I like Jan too, and was kidding about Deliverance(well maybe not for Clay). I can tell Jan is a dear sweet person regardless of her looks which should never be a factor. She is far nicer than anyone else in my opinion.

Misslibra

Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 01:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
How can anyone pick on Jan as sweet as she is. She's a good soul with a caring heart.

I really do think I hear the theme from Deliverance when she and Clay are getting face time. Alegria, how could you! I have to admit I did laugh when reading that. Still laughing now...

Hermione69

Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 05:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't believe people are still picking on Jan for her looks! None of us would look our best out there. Except Colby, ha ha. Seriously, there was a couple who lived across the street from my parents when I was growing up and they were about my parents' age and looked 10-15 years older from all their time in the sun, especially the woman. I think it just depends on what kind of skin you have to start with as to how excessive sun exposure will age you. Someone with very fair skin who is out in the sun a lot for more than 50 years with no protection could very well look like Jan. Why is it bothering people so much anyway? Get over it!

Hermione69

Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 05:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Or maybe I need to get over that people like to talk about this! :) To each his own...

Fruitbat

Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 06:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL! Alegria. I agree. :)

Yankees: Are people from Michigan Yankees? North Dakota? Oregon? or just the northeast.

Hermione said >>>I can't believe people are still picking on Jan for her looks!<<<<<<

Hey, we are picking on her personality too! Give credit where credit is due. It is our responsibility to this message board and mankind.

Webkitty

Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 07:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi Herm I admire your dedication but I'll chime in here and give you my 2 cents.

The reason I am not a Jan fan is not because of her looks so much.
She turned me off right away with her sniveling about having to pick her own team. I realize there could be any number of explanations for this, but its just how I felt.

Her continued childlike quality has not helped to change my mind.
I'm sure that this quality is an excellent one in working with small children, but on Survivor, it seems out of place to me. As a matter of fact, she comes across as downright vacant half the time.

When she starts that giggling/crying/sniveling thing she does, it really creeps me out. The wrinkled face with the little girl pigtails and her real-life Mr. Burns body with the one piece swim suit just adds to the horror.

I am a huge animal lover and DO have a soft heart, but insisting that her tribemates participate in a full out burial for that embrionic bat was just thoughtless, considering they need to conserve what little physical and mental energy they have. She should have just gone off and quitely done it by herself if it meant that much to her. Judging from her emotional confessional, it must have been a taxing experience for the rest of them, imo. MB only KNOWS what other foolishness went on that was left on the cutting room floor.

My own personal take on Survivor is that I would never put myself through that for anything LESS than a million dolllars. It always bothers me when people say they are there just for the experience. People like Jan that la-la their time away there drive me nuts. I'm a type A personality and Jan is not. I appriciate that not everyone is the same, and I sometimes drive MYSELF nuts with my quirks, but there you have it.

I'm sure Jan is a lovely person in RL, I just can't stop thinking of how she would irratate me in that paticular situation if I were there.

Fruitbat

Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 07:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Webkitty, I could not have said it better. Kudos.

I will add that those of us who are put off by her may very well feel the same way if we met her in RL. No one likes everyone and that is fine. Just because someone is "good" or "nice" does not mean everyone finds them compelling or even tollerable.

Zipsdaddy

Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 08:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jan's total physique is actually pretty good for her "age".... Besides, remember how dried up and wrinkled Tina looked during Survivor, and how young she looked on the final show..... I didn't realize it was Tina at first!!! Moisturize, moisturize!!! And by the way, you're a yankee if you were above the Mason Dixon line... during the Civil War.... I came from the North, and now live in the South.... and I'm called a yankee affectionately now.... Once you get past the accent, we are all pretty much the same.
We just sound dumb as hell!!!
:-)

Gina8642

Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 08:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'll keep watching, but I'm not sure there is that much to talk about. We've seen all the editing tricks before, so the episodes are much less suspensful.

The only Survivor I'm still rooting for is Shii Ann, and it doesn't look like she'll last much longer.

It seems fairly obvious that Brian, Ted, Clay and Helen make it close to the end. Even though I'm nearly positive Brian makes it to final two, I really don't care if he does or not.

So far the twists in this game have been fairly lame. Maybe the merge twist next episode will spice things up? I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Car54

Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 08:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Right now, I think the thing I am watching for most is the possible jury makeup and who they would vote for. That is where the fun will be once they merge.

I think some of these people are capable of holding a big grudge.

Fruitbat

Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 08:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah Gina, I am with you. They will have to make major changes to the next Survivor to breathe some life back into it.

>>>Jan's total physique is actually pretty good for her "age"<<<<<

This sentimate alarms me. At 56 I am realizing that I have reached the "for her age" stage in my life. I am in much better shape than Jan and I really do think her age is a misprint.

Webkitty

Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 08:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Car, oh yea!
One that pops to mind is Ken. He doesn't seem flexible in his opinions of people and situations. In other words, he is always right, and his way is the right way.

I guess he must need to have confidence in himself and his way of viewing the world to be in law enforcement, but on the Island, flexability counts for a lot, and I just don't see it in him.

I have a feeling that he will be a target this week. MB has edited to look like its going to be Shii Anne, but I don't know. If Ken goes now, I can see him having a chip on his shoulder by final TC.

Another one that pops to mind is Clay. I can see him sitting around LL just festering with grudge.

Car54

Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 08:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Whoever goes this week won't be on the jury, tho. The first merge boot goes to Loser Lodge...THEN the jury starts.

I think Clay has the ability to be really pissy.

Catfat

Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 08:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I kinda like Clay with his Grumpy Old Man, sarcastic attitude. His grimace when Jan was going on about the bat looked like he had just about had it with Jan's childlike, hyperactive behavior. It was like "Gawd, now what?" He is fed up with her and I don't see any reason why he should go along with her silliness.
Let her bury the bat in reverence and silence, which would have been more fitting anyway.

Webkitty

Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 09:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Right, I forgot about that. Boston Rob was the first merge boot, and he wasn't on the jury.

I think I would rather get booted early on and get to travel around the area on MB's dime than suffer hunger and hardship just to get booted toward the end and have to be cooped up at LL for no other reason than to vote for someone else to receive a million dollars (especially if the others had a pissy grudge fest going on) Wait, I might be one of them!

Car54

Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 09:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the big thing about making the merge is the money. I think I read where the ones who make it that far get like $10,000 more for lasting that long, and from then on the pay goes up every 3 days (every TC).

I think it might have been Lindsay from S/Africa who said the money is a lot better if you make it that far.

Meggieprice

Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 09:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Now that I saw Jan referred to as a lush in the CBS promo- well, if it is true her aged face makes more sense. Combine lots of sun and lots of alcohol and its a sure recipe for premature aging. I have a friend 35 who looks well over 50 due to the same combo. Webkitty-I am still lol-Mr.Burns body! Thanks for the giggle!

What are Californians called...do I want to know?

Catfat

Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 09:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
About Ghandia's hairdo. Was that white stuff beads? bleached hair? paint? kleenix? It looked pretty, but seemed to always be falling in her eyes, such as when she was trying (and failing) to do the wooden puzzle. Alright, alright, I know she's gone, but I still wonder about that hair. This is a very slow week.

Ophiliasgrandma

Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 09:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
A number of years ago I was on a cruise where they were filming a 'Love Boat' 2 hour movie. One of the stars was Hailey Mills. At the time she was probably 35-40, but her face was so wrinkled she looked to be 50ish. From time to time I have come into contact with people whose faces were wrinkled out of all proportion to their ages. Once in awhile genes and other influences conspire to do an especially bad number on someone's face.