Grannyg | Friday, October 25, 2002 - 06:47 pm     I just went to Survivor Challenge and when you click on Reward it gives the names of the contestants or that there won't be one. Then on Immunity it's the same thing with the names and the other choice is "There won't be a merge". Strange?? |
Meggieprice | Friday, October 25, 2002 - 10:53 pm     Check out the video promo at CBS.com- looks like a merge but perhaps with a big twist. |
Fruitbat | Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 05:46 am     Lycan, sounds good. I am guessing that the challenges are done in pairs this week and they have been paired with someone from the opposite team. Can't make sense of 4 on one side of the circle and the rest seperated however. |
Hermione69 | Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 06:20 am     There has been huge speculation over at Sux, apparently after some new preview footage, that the two tribes come to live together but continue to compete as separate tribes for immunity. That way MB can avoid the pagonging. No tribe will ever have a clear upper hand because it could always change at the next IC. There are vidcaps that show what appears to be a maze challenge and the survivors appear to be going through it still on their original tribes which gives some weight to that speculation. |
Fruitbat | Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 06:26 am     Thanks Herm. |
Hermione69 | Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 06:32 am     I like the pairing idea better. That is something I would like to see! A lot of people think there will be no reward challenge this episode, but maybe the pairing is for a reward challenge, like when Pappy and Sean were paired up. Of course, this is all just speculation. MB is probably just messing with our minds! It will probably just be business as usual and we will all go, "Oh, man!" |
Fruitbat | Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 06:45 am     Just been reading SS. Who goes next? Shi Anne is a popular choice over there and it makes sense. Not sure how that happens. They are merged at 5 and 5. No matter how irritated they are with her I see the teams voting along team lines. Where is the logic for not having a tie? They will have only been together two days, three tops, before this first vote. That is not a lot of time to trust new bonds. |
Alaginger | Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 07:41 am     You know.......the picture we see of 4 on one side, and 6 on the other??? How do we know that is how it ends up? The picture may have been taken before the dividing is finished and they are about to split between the leaders (Jake for one side of four, and Jan for the other side of four). That still gives us 5 on each side.....plus Ken and Shii Ann on the same side so we can have the confrontation between those two on Shii Ann's loyalty. ..... ???? |
Meggieprice | Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 11:26 am     Hermione- this speculation came from the video on the CBS web site promoting next week.It definitely looks like a very different kind of merge. |
Car54 | Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 12:33 pm     Well I don't care for that at all. It isn't til the individual immunity challenges where the game gets interesting. When you are playing to save yourself is when things really get fun. |
Pamy | Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 02:05 pm     Wouldn't the title "assumptions' mean that we are assuming they will merge like normal? ..and you all know what happens when you assUme! |
Fruitbat | Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 02:12 pm     They do merge. The assumption is just how that goes down. CBS says this in their promo. It is in another thread but I have no idea where. |
Meggieprice | Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 06:46 pm     Car-I think the immunity challenges will probably be individual. The Yahoo pick 'em game switched to picking an individual for next week. It just may be that the merge will differ in some other way. |
Car54 | Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 07:18 pm     I hope so. If they just keep competing as teams, the real competitive spirit never comes out. I love how after the merge, the strong people become more vulnerable and the weak people become more valuable because they can trade their votes. |
Fruitbat | Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 12:06 pm     A twist in the merge could be that the winner of IC cannot vote. This could encourage someone not to go for the win in order to keep an alliance strong or so MB may hope. |
Wilsonatmd | Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 05:31 pm     I have a feeling the merge will happen...just not this week. They may go to one location, but it's a "pre-merge" deal.....the merge doesn't actually happen UNTIL the next TC. Because this weeks bootee is the last one who has nothing to do with the final jury; therefore, they might tell the teams they are going to go to one teams location to start to get to know the others, but the RC and IC is still by team this week, however, the ENTIRE group of ten will go to TC (but only one team's group can be voted on). After this week, the jury begins to form, and then they go to individual immunity. |
Csnog | Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 08:45 pm     I see a merge and a boot this week be it Shii Ann or Ken. Because the episode is titled Sleeping with the Enemy it may mean more than just tribe against tribe. Jeff may make them spend most of the episode getting to know their partner painted the same color of paint. It may mean that Shii Ann goes over to the Chewie tribe to help vote Ken out. What ever takes place it certainly adds a twist to the show. |
Car54 | Monday, October 28, 2002 - 03:03 am     There is a video at CBS of a new promo: JP: The two tribes will now live together on one beach Announcer: Spirits are running high Clay: Yeaaaaaahhh!!! Brian: Well Jan, is ummm... ...well a lush Jan??: well yeah, Ohhh ...(Jan falls down and bangs against something) Announcer: but with immunity crucial Ted: (falls down) ohhhh.....arghhhhh Announcer: The castaways face the biggest surprise JP: something very different is about to happen Announcer (continued): of this or any survivor ever!!!! Ted: It's always dangerous to assume Announcer: Don't miss a whole new Survivor: Thailand. CBS Thursday!!!! Vidcaps Challenge Vidcaps Looks like the challenge has something to do with the island having been a penal colony. |
Fruitbat | Monday, October 28, 2002 - 06:37 am     Ok, we know things always seem bigger and better than they turn out to be but this does sound intriguing. |
Car54 | Monday, October 28, 2002 - 07:25 am     Yup, it will give us lots to guess about til Thursday. Looks like there is some initial pairing across tribal lines, and also then in the challenge, the Sooks are in chains behind bars, and it does not look like the Chuays have chains. Prisoners vs guards? I am glad they gave us something to speculate about. |
Mygetaway | Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 12:25 pm     Thanks for all the links and pics everyone. Looks like it will be a good episode. I hope that Shii doesn't go yet. She may be a little whiny, but I like her. I agree with Sea, I think it was, who said if they were smart they would get rid of Clay so he won't be on the jury. Definite grudge material there. There are some great ideas about the new ways to merge. I like the idea of the randomly assigned partners by paint color choice. Maybe they do this for reward challenges? So that one person from each team goes to each reward? If Suki feels that Shii Ann is liking her newer tribe members better, I can see them going after her. Jake is her strongest supporter and he will be out numbered. I want to see Clay and Jan go before her though.. pretty please.. LOL. I like Brian but sometimes I think he's just a little too slick for me. He thinks he can talk anybody into anything, and maybe he can, but... I don't think I'll vote until the last minute this time because they always show more clips the closer it gets. This will be a hard one to call. |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 10:47 am     They are merging with equal numbers so it is safe to assume neither team will be eager to vote one of their own off no matter how much they may dislike them. They have seen pagoning in action. Ordinarily we would expect a tie and either past votes counting, a quiz or the rock deciding the outcome. I think there is something new to break a tie. I also think the one who wins IC cannot vote. (I am stuck on this, I have no idea why) I cannot find the logic for Sui Anne going but there is that spoiler lurking in the back of my brain. What could happen that would make her the target rather than a stronger player? I can't see it. |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 11:02 am     I agree, Fruitbat, if it wasn't for the spoiler I would not pick Shii Ann to be the one to go. I would bet that Ken would be out of there before Shii Ann. But that darn spoiler! I know many people have discredited it, but it has proven true so far, especially with the last two boots coming from SJ. I like Shii, but she is not a warm and fuzzy person. Maybe she has a conflict with someone on CG. I can see that happening with Ted or Clay. There is also speculation that she may try to defect to the CG camp. If the IC comes with them competing as a group and SJ loses, they would probably vote her out next. If they all vote, I really think that CG would target Ken over Shii unless she gets in a fight of some sort with a CG member. |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 11:12 am     I never read the spoiler and not even sure where it came from. Anyone care to give a quick summary? I am interested in how we even know Sui Anne smokes. |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 11:19 am     She is rumored to be one of Ghandia's smoking buddies at Loser Lodge. Most of the big spoiling sites put a lot of credit in this spoiler, despite many posters shrugging it off. Tomorrow's bootee is the last person that will join Loser Lodge. |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 11:22 am     http://www.truedorktimes.com/s5/survivometer5.htm http://www.truedorktimes.com/s5/spoilers/index.htm are a couple links that talk about it. |
Jagger | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 12:57 pm     It can't be She-ann, I never get that lucky. I'm wondering if the new plot to this is that they put the two together and they are a bond till the end. If one of the two paired together wins amunity they both win, that may shake up some already formed alliances. |
Catfat | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 02:00 pm     Ghandia is pretty and friendly and if one didn't know about her shenanigans at the Chewy camp, would find her fun to be around. Maybe ShiAnn and Ghandia did hit it off at Loser Lodge. I think ShiAnn is friendlier and more fun than she has been portrayed. Her reactions at Robb's howling when he got stung by the sea creature were a mirror of what the others were thinking, and he got well pretty quickly after putting his foot in the cooking pot. I like ShiAnn. She is intelligent and I don't think she is smart-alecky at all, but then, a lot of intelligent people are belittled and called obnoxious names, which is why a lot of them go to great lengths to cover up the fact of a high IQ. |
Csnog | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 07:19 pm     Ghandia only knows that Shii Ann smokes. Ghandia may have seen Shii Ann smoke while training or on the way home. She knows that Clay smokes also. |
Catfat | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 07:41 pm     I can't believe I said those nice things about Ghandia!! I must have been hitting the Halloween candy too hard. In reality, I don't think Ghandia is nice or fun or anything else except a pain in the (grinding) butt, and I still don't know what those white gobs of stuff in her hair are. |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 07:43 pm     Catfat, go on now and eat some more Halloween candy! LOL, you cracked me up! |
Catfat | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 09:37 pm     Thanks, Hermione. I think I'll start in on the Heath bars next. (Catfat grins as she munches) |
Tabbyking | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 10:30 pm     'white gobs of stuff in her hair'?!! in 'something about mary' it's what 'came' of 'grinding'. maybe it's the evidence ghandia needs to get ted for sexual harrassment ;>) heath bars...ummm. we make english toffee for the holidays and it's wonderful. your heath bars make me realize it's time to start making candy! and do more miles on the darn treadmill, of course. |