Episode 5-- The Ocean's Surprise
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Wiseolowl

Friday, October 11, 2002 - 06:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Am I being soft or is it that I don't want to see Helen or Robb go ?
It doesn't seem fair to me that if somebody gets stung or injured by some fish or animal requiring a little treatment , care from the production crew and /or tribe members - that is not so severe (as say the serious burns received by the guy from Michigan -can't remember his name -where serious medical treatment off the set was necessary) - that it should require the person's expulsion? - it's the type of thing that could happen to any of them.
Or is the name of the game "Survival" - of the fittest? But then , again in a tribal setting , doesn't a tribe do what they can to aid one of the Tribe members and only cast him/ her off only when survival of the Tribe is threatened?

Fruitbat

Friday, October 11, 2002 - 06:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
In Africa, Lindsey refused to go to the hospital when she became seriously dehydrated so they brought an IV to her at the camp.

I don't think they would remove anyone unless is was extreme.

I do not see anyone going.

Scootersmom

Friday, October 11, 2002 - 07:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Morning Fruitbat! I seem to remember in S1 that Susan Hawk got stung by a small stingray when trying to catch it for food. They bandaged her hand and she continued on with the game.....Does anyone else remember this?

Wiseolowl

Friday, October 11, 2002 - 07:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Folks I remember those situtions, but if the incident was fairly trivial, they must be pretty hard up for material to title the episode "Ocean Surprise" if it was something requiring a simple bandage and innoculation.

Thefan

Friday, October 11, 2002 - 08:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think someone is injured, but maybe the Ocean has something else to offer too. I always associate the word "surprise" with something good. Robb getting bit by a stingray is not good, unless as stated above you are Shii Ann and get to pee on him and thus have the upper hand!

Ark

Friday, October 11, 2002 - 11:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
In the promo at the CBS website, Brian says "the boat is gone", Jeff asks if anyone wants to switch tribes & it shows Rob, laying on the beach in pain.

Car54

Friday, October 11, 2002 - 02:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Official clues for this episode from CBS:

ON THE NEXT SURVIVOR
The Survivors receive a shocking offer.

One Survivor's singing drives the others crazy.

Two unlikely tribemates forge a tentative alliance, but neither is sure whether the other can be trusted.

Csnog

Friday, October 11, 2002 - 03:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The boat can't go far. They should be able to find it.

Pamy

Friday, October 11, 2002 - 04:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
TV Guide says someone gets stung by a stingray, thus the ocean's surprise

Kaili

Friday, October 11, 2002 - 08:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the loss of the boat and the stingray are the ocean's surprise...and if 2 unlikely teammates form an alliance I bet it is Robb and Shii-ann. Maybe....just my guesses.

Tester

Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 06:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I found this about stingray injuries and thought you all might be interested.

\Link to story

Although the geography is different, the injury would be the same. Sounds like Robb had every reason to scream.

Shortnsweet

Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 06:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tester, thank you for the link. Wow, I'm glad I've never been stung by a stingray. I think Sue H. from Survivor 1 was stung by a very small ray when she was spear fishing. She continued on with her hand bandaged. It would probably be harder to continue with a foot injury.

(Sidenote: Have you seen the commercial for a cruise line where they talk about "swimming with stingrays"? We always yell at the TV when we see this commercial, because we're pretty sure they are swimming with Manta rays who are less dangerous than stingrays.)

Tester

Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 07:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, I have seen the commercial - it is real. I came across this when I was looking up stingray injuries.

\Link to story

Sounds like a fun place.

Shortnsweet

Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 07:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Great find Tester! I think it sounds scary, but I would probably try it if I was there.

Chiparock

Monday, October 14, 2002 - 09:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow! I just saw a Survivor promo on CBS TV that showed Jeff saying: "Does anyone want to switch tribes?" Then clips of Stephanie and Ted were shown. Hmmmm ....
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Chiparock

Monday, October 14, 2002 - 09:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
A couple of thoughts: if Stephanie goes to Chewy, I can see her bonding with Helen, who is as strong and competitive as she is. After all, Stephanie thinks her own tribe is a bunch of idiots. If Ted goes to Sucky, he may bond with Shii Ann, who seems to be on his intellectual wavelength. (Plus they would make an adorable odd couple.) He probably would prefer to be on a tribe that is more capable of winning challenges.

Just my .

Csnog

Monday, October 14, 2002 - 12:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Stephanie jumps and will be the only one.

Jo_5329

Monday, October 14, 2002 - 12:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with you Chip about Stephanie getting along better with those in the CG tribe than where she's at.

Stephanie has caused a lot of her own problems, but she has also gone out and tried to find food - and when she did, ie: the squid, did anyone say thank you? No, they just stuffed their selfish (no pun intended) faces and glarred at her.

I hope she gets a chance to be with a tribe that would at least have the frelling manners to thank someone when they get them food!

Jo

Lycanthrope

Monday, October 14, 2002 - 06:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with you Jo. She would get along much better with the Chewy's, and the Sookies would be better w/o her.

Oh, and nice use of a Farscape term...you wouldn't happen to be JoJerome would you??

Zipsdaddy

Monday, October 14, 2002 - 06:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow, they all get 60 seconds to decide if they want to switch teams..... Wonder who goes first??

.... wonder who goes last?

Pamy

Monday, October 14, 2002 - 06:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't believe MB is giving out this much info about the show this week. I bet no one switches, that is why he is showing so much

Hermione69

Monday, October 14, 2002 - 06:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi Pamy! Other people are speculating along the same lines... that he is giving out way too much and therefore it is all meaningless. I am looking forward to this episode because no one really seems to have a clue as to how it will ultimately play out! I can't wait to see the predictions by all the major spoiler sites and see how they line up. Right now the only thing I would be willing to put in the bank is that Robb gets into a tussle with a stingray!

Pamy

Monday, October 14, 2002 - 06:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi Herm, I think you're right. Now stop worrying about Survivor and get over to the Push thread and post some more thoughts!!!

Kaili

Monday, October 14, 2002 - 07:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
How about this- they have to say if they want to, and if they do want to they can. BUT maybe if it's uneven (like if Stephanie is the only one who says she wants to)- no matter what she will be able to but on the spot Chewy's people would have to decide which of them will go in order to keep the teams the same number as they already are. It would end up being like a tribal vote, evicting that person to the other team.

Car54

Monday, October 14, 2002 - 07:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually, in Marqesas, the Twist was used to try to keep the Pagonging from happening. One team lost so many challenges and went to TC so much they would have been in a really weak position at the merge and would have been wiped out.

We have the same situation now.

Sook has
Jake, Shii, Erin, Penny, Robb, Ken, Steph (Seven players)

Chuy has Jan, Helen, Ted, Clay, Brian...only 5.

MB needs one player from Sook to move to level the numbers and equalize the teams going into the merge.

In Marquesas, Neleh, Paschel, Vecipia and Kathy...were final 4...and all were players who got switched from their original tribes.

Spear

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 12:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have a suspicion that the new ad is meant to mislead (sort of like the ad for Episode 1 that suggested a male vs. female team formation) and that they might do something else to decide how to swap players.

Jo_5329

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 05:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lycanthrope:

Nope, not JoJerome -- but a Farscape fan none the less

Djgirl5235

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 09:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
But Car, in Marquesas, there were the same number of Buffs under the logs as there were on the original teams - 8 for one team and 5 for the other, so I can't see MB evening the teams out... All I can say for truth though, is that I can't wait for Thursday night!!! Thank goodness this is a short week for us (Canadian Thanksgiving was yesterday)

Lycanthrope

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 04:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jo,

Cool, me too. See ya around.

Fruitbat

Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 11:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
There are a lot of votes for Shi Anne this week and I just don't see that. Is this logic from a spoiler I missed?

Rob, Stephanie and Jed voted for her but that team is divided and it is likely that the division remains and Stephanie is in danger.

Jan is seems a likely pick for Orange. Her lack of strength is hurting them.

Hermione69

Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 12:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Fruitbat, there are spoilers that point to Shii Ann, yes, but nothing is 100% conclusive. If you are interested, check out the True Dork Times, for one, Survivor Blows for another. Spoilers aside, here are some ways I figure it could happen-- if Shii Ann ends up in a switch to CG and is odd man out and they lose IC, she could go. If Stephanie switches to CG and SJ loses the IC, then SJ may choose to keep Robb over Shii Ann for his strength.

People seem to be pretty split between Stephanie and Shii Ann. This is going to be an interesting episode.

Fruitbat

Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 12:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks. Spoilers have done more to make me change off the correct choice in the past so I am not actively seeking them. My choice is Stephanie or Jan. Jan is not strong and an obvious choice no matter how things split. I know there is a spoiler out there about her coming back thinner and fit but that could happen at loser lodge as well. I question the fit part because no one has ever come home more fit. Weaker and thinner, yes.

Clay is another contender to get the boot. He is a tad abrasive. Anyone older, weaker or obnoxious is targeted at this stage of the game.

We have seen a lot of diary talks with Shi Anne so there is some credibility on her going because of air time, however.