Episode 13-- Survivor Thailand
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Zipsdaddy

Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 04:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Indiana Jones always uses his whip to get out of tight spots...... Always......

Car54

Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 05:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There you go.... whip, pole... same symbol.

Seamonkey

Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 05:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Disney's Indiana Jones ride has lots of bugs, too. (the Temple of DOOM).

Curlyq

Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 09:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't remember anyone holding a pole in Survivor 2, unless you count that challenge right after the merge when they had to stand on a perch in the water for hours on end. Same principle, but no holding of pole.

I think I'd really enjoy watching Clay try to outrun a huge rolling boulder.

Car54

Monday, December 09, 2002 - 04:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The Title is up now...it is "Slip Through Your Fingers".

I think that has lots of possible meanings!

Fruitbat

Monday, December 09, 2002 - 06:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It could involve a challenge where they have to hold things in their hands to transport them elsewhere. Something slippery perhaps?

Webkitty

Monday, December 09, 2002 - 06:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I just hope its not snakes. I can't even bear to see them on my tv screen.

Indiana Jones hated snakes but had to deal with them, and there are plenty in Thailand.

Maybe the title means that someone who wanted the win really bad sees it slip through their fingers at the end. This leaves Jan out, imo, so it could be any of the rest.

Fruitbat

Monday, December 09, 2002 - 07:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, yes, I like that Webkitty. It very well could be snakes. I like snakes so no problem here.

As far as someone who wanted the win badly, that is all of them. I think Jan was just being modest when she said her desire was to make the jury. Sure she wants to win but her second goal was to at least get that far so she could be apart of the entire show.

Could be fish too. I can see them scooping small fish swimming in a bucket in their hands or some other slimy sea creature. Jelly fish.....anything.

Mware

Monday, December 09, 2002 - 07:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I hate to do this to you, guys, but what if it's "THE POLE" that they're referring to?

Someone (Brian) could have a firm hold on the way the game is going to play out, but because one person (not necessarily him) can't hang on to "THE POLE", his plans, and the game, slip through his fingers.

MB tends to like the double meanings in his titles, so I'm thinking that "Slip Through Your Fingers" could refer both to "THE POLE" that slips through someone's fingers eliminating them from the gam, and the game slipping through someone's fingers.

Webkitty

Monday, December 09, 2002 - 07:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Rut Roh.

Fruitbat

Monday, December 09, 2002 - 08:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Paging Car! She will set you straight Mware. :)

Tabbyking

Monday, December 09, 2002 - 08:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
webkitty, lol on the 'rut roh'!!

Car54

Monday, December 09, 2002 - 08:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Mware...the pole refers to a challenge usually at F3.... where the players have a test of endurance...standing on a pole in the water...keeping their hand on an idol...etc.

Virtually every time, there is a major slip up and someone we think is destined to win screws up and some little weak girl or old lady gets to pick who goes to F2.

I think this time it is the jury. I think someone Chuay gets booted and swings the jury away from the logical winner and the million slips through her hands.

Frankly I think it is Helen. I think she is gonna get booted, get pissed, swing Penny and Erin and the other woman and probably Brian is not gonna win.

But that is today. My theories change with the weather!!!

Fruitbat

Monday, December 09, 2002 - 12:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I can see that. Brian cannot get out of this unscathed. He has too many thinking he is with them til the end. That is why Jan going makes sense this week if Brian has some control over the vote.

Alaginger

Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 12:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Another scenario for you guys to chew on maybe!!!

Sand slips through your fingers.

I see each of the F3 survivors with a huge hour glass in front of them filled at the top with sand. The very, very top is open and they can catch the sand as it trickles out the bottom and put it back in the top. But they cannot pick up any sand that has "slipped through their fingers into a pile below their hands". The last one with any sand left in his/her hour glass wins that round. This would keep the survivors standing in one position for a long, long, long time if they are holding up.......but it will keep them busy instead of just standing their holding onto a pole (OMG, did I say "pole"???)

And if you want to make this worse, snakes could be crawling around their feet while they are concentrating on catching sand and recycling sand.

Meanwhile, JP stands on the side and cracks the whip to keep everybody awake!

Can't seem to fit a boulder into this scenario...
Sorry about that!!!

Webkitty

Friday, December 13, 2002 - 08:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Alaginger, good thinking! Sand slipping between their fingers.

I taped the previews last night, and there are shots of Jan and Clay looking like they might have won a challenge. (but its early, so who knows what will be shown later on in the week)

I believe Brian intends to keep to his word to bring Helen as far as possible, but I also believe (at this early point in the week) that something happens to prevent that.
(btw, this is all going on the premise that the TDT spoiler is true)

I think B,H,C intend for Jan to be out next. Actully, I think she was the target this week, but Ted's attemped coup was just too much of a danger, and he was voted off instead.

So, Jan is the target, but I think she wins the first immunity, and Helen is voted out.
How this goes down could have an impact on how she feels about Brian, but I don't think she will badmouth him to the jury, jmo.
For right now, I am going to say this is what ~slipping through their fingers~ means. Helen got so close but no cigar. Her husband said she didn't go there to play for F3, she doesn't make it, his words forshadow what is to be.
This is a three hour finale show, and the clues and title refere to the whole thing, not necessarily the very last challenge, imo.

So, final three, B,C,J. The final three usually take a day to reflect back on the game, go for a ritual cleansing, all that stuff. Its the end of the game, and I can see Jan taking one of the water bottles and bowl (she had them on her mantle when the reporter came for the interview) I should have paid more attention to this article from the beginning, it was an important clue.

Brian or Clay win the last IC and take the other.
Neither one will want to go up against Jan at F2.

I think (right now) that Brian will sweep it. The SJ are young, except for Jake (who doesn't like how Clay played the game anyway) and I can see them voting for Brian, just based on his younger age, over Clay. I will point to TAR, and young vrs old on this. I will also point to SJ feeling superior over the "old" people at the beginning.
It may seem like a superficial and stupid way to vote for the winner from where we sit, but it could happen. I don't think the SJ are happy at all at having to pick from a CG, and since Helen and Jan will be gone, I think this factor might come into play.
Also, Ted didn't seem to blame Brian at all in his Early show interview. I got the impression that he feels Clay butted into his alliance with Brian, and if anything, blames Clay. He didn't seem that impressed with how Clay played the game.

I see Penny as the bitter jury member, she looks like she is just bristling to make a speech.

My opinions will probably change as the week goes on and more info (hopefully) is available. For right now, this is my for what its worth.

Car54

Friday, December 13, 2002 - 08:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think they each have an individual water bottle...Ted took his with him last night, so Jan having one is probably not a big deal.

I am not sure anyone is as bitter about Clay as we think. They were not with him that long and most of his bad stuff was to the camera. The only one who has a real gripe on the jury so far is Jake, and he seems fine about it.

I want to see Clay do his little tap dance...he has a lot of humor and charm when he wants to...and he thinks on his feet. Brian gets really quiet under stress..he really shuts down and that may not be a good think..you would need to have a quick response to anything they ask you.

Alaginger

Friday, December 13, 2002 - 08:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Teasers from the CBS site...

ON THE NEXT SURVIVOR

"It's down to the Final Four, and with the title of Sole Survivor on the line, critical friendships end, resulting in feelings of betrayal and rage." (Ginger's Question: Could this be Helen's reaction to the betrayal?)

"Bottled feelings of anger and frustration boil to the surface in a heated final Tribal Council, where two Survivors have to answer to a very opinionated jury." (Ginger's Question: And if so, does she have time to influence the jury against Brian for betraying her?)

Webkitty

Friday, December 13, 2002 - 08:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Car, I think the SJ are just bitter at their circumstances, not so much at Clay.

Like I said, they might vote along age lines, anything is possible.

I want to see Clay do his little tap dance too, it should be interesting.

Webkitty

Friday, December 13, 2002 - 09:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Alaginger Ooooh, it sounds like Helen to me! Rut roh.

Moondance

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 06:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
CBS eyeMAIL! -- Special Edition


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SURVIVOR: THAILAND, Thursday, 8PM ET/PT.


Who will be the sole Survivor? It's down to Clay (the restaurant owner

from Monroe, LA), Jan (the teacher from Tampa, FL), Brian (the used car

salesman from Quartz Hill, CA) and Helen (the Navy swim instructor from Middletown, RI).


Catch the two-hour finale that pits the final four head to head in the quest to outlast the elements and each other for the $1 million prize. The final four will become two and then a jury of their fellow tribemates will decide the winner

Stay tuned after the finale for a live reunion of the 16 Survivors, together for the first time since leaving the island of Koh Tarutao. Jeff

Probst will host the one-hour SURVIVOR: THAILAND - THE REUNION, Thursday, 10PM ET/PT.

Wendo

Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 03:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Moondance, thanks for posting. I just realized that, despite the many Texans on this season's Survivor, not one made it to the final four. Interesting.

Sar711

Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 04:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes they did both Clay and Jan were born in Texas.

Wendo

Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 08:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sar, oh, thanks. I thought they meant those survivors living in Texas now.

Thanks.