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Realfan

Friday, December 06, 2002 - 10:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am still a huge Brian fan. I am amazed how he has never once engaged in an argument (that we've seen) and gotten people mad at him. Not once. That shows excellent game playing, what this whole thing is about. The fact Helen trusts him so much shows just how well he is playing. I am very, very impressed.

Because of this, I want him to win. It may make for more boring television, but I want the one who is trying the hardest and doing everything right to walk away with the prize. In the future, if they want to show people "how the game should be played," they can show them Brian in Survivor 5.

Then again, he may lose! LOL!

I don't think it's so certain Brian would lose in a jury vote against Helen. I also think it's clear she won't be turning against him at this point in the game, not after the way she spoke about Brian to her husband.

Penny made me very annoyed, too. Like the Sook Jai's wouldn't have Pagonged the Chuay's if the positions were reversed?? Yeah, right! And Jeff, too, hoping for a more dramatic outcome and acting surprised that they voted off Jake. Yeah, right! Duh. It would have been stoooopid to vote off Clay before Jake, because it would have made an enemy of him instantly. Yeah, voting off Jake was predictable, but it was smart.

One last thought: Anyone else impressed at the AGES of these remaining survivors? Of the last six, there were NO 20-somethings. The youngest is Brian at 34. It supports my theory that younger people--particularly early 20s--don't make the best players.

Fruitbat

Friday, December 06, 2002 - 10:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Realfan, I agree. And Webkitty, I like Clay too but his ourburst at Jake mentioning his own hard work was just plain nuts. Obviously hit a nerve for the guilty man.

My husband walked away from the TV as the first water beetle squirted its milky green innerds.

Stardancer

Friday, December 06, 2002 - 10:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi everyone. This is my first post. I just found this board recently.

I love Survivor and I am a Clay supporter. I missed the first half of the show last night. What did Clay say to Jake that was so bad?

Fruitbat

Friday, December 06, 2002 - 11:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Welcome Star. Clay just ranted a little more as he did when he voted for Jake in the TC last week. Jakes speech that he did a lot of work around the camp irritated him. Both Helen and Jan said that Jake did do a lot of work, much more than Clay.

Seems that Clay must think so too or he would not have gotton so testy. Jake did not say he did more than Clay. Clay jumped to that conclusion, apparently.

I like Clay. He just gets a little rangey sometimes. :)

Stardancer

Friday, December 06, 2002 - 11:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank you for the welcome, Fruitbat. I was afraid I killed the thread.

I like Clay, too. At least he says what he is thinking. If Helen is upset that she is doing most of the work (always going and getting the water) then she should speak up and say something.

For all we know, she may be one of those maryter types. One who demands to do everything, but then complains about it and resents it. Jake can be too. So that's why Clay got upset and said something.

Maybe Clay offers to go help but gets rebuffed. Helen did say that Clay did go to get water but got water in the boat. Maybe every time he tried to go after that, she told him no.

I may have to go back and revise my favorite list and move Helen down a notch or two. She is getting my gander up, thinking about it.

Seamonkey

Friday, December 06, 2002 - 12:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jake also said that one time he voted for Jan because Penny told him they were voting Jan out that night.. but he refused to say anything against anyone on his team.

His wife said that the water bug cockroach thing was the absolute worst of all the gross "food".

Welcome, Stardancer!! I don't agree with you re Clay and Helen, but that's what makes the world go round.. if we all agreed it would be so boring.

Stardancer

Friday, December 06, 2002 - 12:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi Seamonkey! Thanks for the welcome. *smile*

I agree it would be boring if we all agreed. *smile*

I am also a big brother fan. And I was thinking of Nicole from BB2 when I was posting about how Helen can actually be.

If you go to Clay's folder there are some nice articles about him and how everyone in his town say he is such a nice guy. And since he runs his own restaurant, I can't believe that he could be lazy as they say he is. My brotherinlaw used to run one, and it is a lot, a lot of hard work.

So I am going to believe the spoilers that Clay makes it to the end, and the show is editing it to make Clay look like the villian. And that Helen gets the boot next week, so they edit her to make her look nice.

Stardancer

Friday, December 06, 2002 - 12:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oops! I forgot to add that I am sure that Helen is very nice in real life, but just a bit controlling. And out on the island it would make this characteristic come out more than it normally would. And Clay is more the submissive type, and lets her be a bit "bossy" with the taking care of the camp.

Needmylifeback

Friday, December 06, 2002 - 01:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I really appreciate the recaps...once again I forgot to set the VCR when I took DS to taekwondo.

I would have had to fast forward through the bug scenes!

Ketchuplover

Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 10:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
They should've shown the bug eating segment in super slo-mo :)

I want Ted to win now. Why? I have no frickin idea :)

GO TED GO :)

Squaredsc

Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 11:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
ketchup, maybe if they had catsup it would have gone down better.

Hummingbird

Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 11:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Loved watching Helen point her finger at her husband, ordering him to eat! He didn't dare lose.