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Essence

Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 01:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wouldn't go for it if I were either of them. It looks like that is a tight threesome (Penny, Jake, Ken). Helen and Jan would be in no better position with them then they would with the CG men. I doubt if Penny would turn on Jake or Ken...but if she really is that conniving, who knows.

Ariasmum

Friday, December 20, 2002 - 08:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That annoying little Penny is full of herself! Big deal, she bases her vote on how much someone got to know her. She was probably disappointed that it was the little old pervert always trying to chat her up rather than the more attractive younger guy who was too busy working hard at camp intsead of schmoozing the chicks. It's all about her!

Rslover

Friday, December 20, 2002 - 09:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree. Remember when Clay was making fun of her because he thought she was flirting heavy duty! Didn't she watch that tape?

Bastable

Friday, December 20, 2002 - 09:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"I voted for you because you got to know me the most?"

How self-indulgent! What did she think this game is about?

The game was not about her.

I wish Mark Burnett would stop casting these pretty, I'd-sleep-with-you people who think the world owes them something! Too many of the recent "Survivor" (and "Big Brother") can't see anything but their own vanity. I wish they'd start casting more everyday, normal-looking people again. It makes huge difference in how contestants see the world and play the game.

Fluff

Friday, December 20, 2002 - 09:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought that was the most self-centered, conceited thing ever!

Brenda1966

Friday, December 20, 2002 - 09:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed:
"I voted for Clay because he knew the most about ME!" Me, me, me!

Yes, princess, this game was all about YOU! Don't you just know she was furious inside that she wasn't able to use her cute little body and smile to woo Brian. He just didn't get drawn in. Good for him. She's clueless.

Grooch

Friday, December 20, 2002 - 10:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
In Penny's defense, She was only there a few days with them, so she never really got to know them. She was on the team that was going to be pagonged, so she wasn't involved with their plotting an planning.

Maybe she didn't have much else to go on for deciding, other than who seemed like the nicer person. And don't forget, Clay did go her wedding, so maybe they did strike up a friendship out there.

What else was there really for her to go on, on deciding who to vote for?

Bastable

Friday, December 20, 2002 - 03:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, she DID sit on the jury for several weeks and saw everything go down. She also had contact with everyone who was voted off. So she had plenty to go on. She was a primadonna.

Hermione69

Friday, December 20, 2002 - 03:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, Erin was there even less time and she said she voted for Clay because she felt he was more honest than Brian. There were other ways Penny could have based her vote. I also felt she was extremely self-centered. Even the way she worded it made her sound self-involved. She could have said something like, "I'm voting for Clay because I felt like we had a better connection than Brian and I did." The way she said it made it sound like "I'm voting for whoever paid me the most attention" and not "I'm voting for the person that I spent more time with and got to know better." There's a world of difference between the two. She could meant the latter, but her wording sure made it sound like the former.

Alaginger

Friday, December 20, 2002 - 05:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have to agree with this whole scenario.......I saw it as "Me, Me, Me" also!!!

Curlyq

Friday, December 20, 2002 - 05:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've never been a fan of either, but I think both Penny and Erin asked very good questions. Why shouldn't Penny want to know which one of them actually paid attention to all of their tribemates? If I was about to help make someone a millionaire, I'd at least like to know I wasn't just a warm body to him. It was a valid question and an issue that was brought up in Survivor 2 when I believe Colby pointed out how well Tina got to know everyone vs. Jerri who didn't bother.

Each jury member has a right to make their question all about them because how they cast their vote IS all about them. And if the game isn't about the players, what on earth is it about? The most important part of playing the game is trying to win the favor of each individual jury member. However, I don't think Penny was just making this all about herself. I'm sure she'd already noticed that Clay was the one who took the time to get to know her, and used this line of questioning to bring it to the attention of the jury in the same way that some of the others' questions were also designed to expose rather than gather information.

Grooch

Friday, December 20, 2002 - 05:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The problem is, is that we get to see about 3 or 5 minutes of tribal council, and I read that it can go on for hours. So who knows what really goes on.

She got voted out of the game, (by being pagonged, so I assume, there wasn't much heated discussion going on then.) And so she was out of the game. Then, when it was time for the chewies to turn on themselves, is when tribal councils would start getting nasty, and she doesn't know them, or have any real emotional attachment to any of them left, to really care that much as to who wins. What she was hearing at tribal councils (after Jake and Ken were gone) is all hearsay to her. Just like Helen accused Brian about. How can you believe what any of them are saying?

So she probably said, screw all the mental drama, I really don't know either one, or care either. It's not life or death. I'll go with who I think was a nicer person.

Much better than deciding by who needs the money more.

I never cared for her, but I just don't see her question as being a big deal.

Seamonkey

Friday, December 20, 2002 - 07:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with Grooch.. she was being honest about her vote but she was also pointing out that Brian who claimed to have done the most to take care of everyone, wasn't that caring. She also showed with her answer to him, when he guessed she was from Beaumont.. she quickly said "no, that's Jan!".. showing that even Penny had learned about Jan in her short time there and Brian couldn't even keep them straight..

It does make me wish that they'd had the "Fallen Comrades" challenge just to see Brian answer questions..

Car54

Friday, December 20, 2002 - 07:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Coulda been worse, she could have asked them to pick a number.

Alaginger

Friday, December 20, 2002 - 07:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Car ...... ROFL

Lycanthrope

Saturday, December 21, 2002 - 07:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Penny was just being Penny. Maybe she's a bit self-centered, but most A-type personalities are. I doubt she gave much of a crap at the time about either of the two fellas, and she wanted to know which of them was more real, rather than the bigger player. Brian was definitely the bigger player and did't get to know Penny at all, and so she voted with her heart. Nothing wrong with that.

Willnu

Saturday, December 21, 2002 - 12:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bastable you are right about the type of people..I seem to always root for the normal looking average types...but since it's TV I suppose we are going to be seeing a fair amount of "Ken and Barbies"..

Ladytex

Saturday, December 21, 2002 - 02:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I really didn't care for Penny at all, however, I didn't see anything wrong with her question. I wouldn't want to vote to give a misslion dollars to a phony who obviously didn't give a hoot about me, either. If you want me to vote for you, at least pretend that you care.