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Tester

Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 04:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hermione, Also check out the "Tonight's Show Spoiling 10/17/2002" The threads where it was discussed were around 5:13p and then again around 5:55p.

Draheid

Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 04:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Adding to Tester's post ... (only what you missed or I heard different)
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Robb - The most upsetting thing about it is like, ...

Erin - It's disgusting...

Robb - Appalling, dude. She's a girl....
[cut to Jake]
Jake - I don't know what it is that Shi Ann does that irritates other people but it's somethin'.
[back to Robb & Erin]

Robb - It's funny 'cause Ken says she's a city girl and they're all like her. I don't ever want to meet another New York city girl.

Erin - Oh God, me neither. She just bugs me so much I can't wait to get rid of her.

Jake - [off camera] now she doesn't irritate me. And the reason she doesn't irritate me is because she works.
[cut to Jake]
Jake - and Shi Ann to me is one of the all-time good ones as far as that goes.

I hope this helps too! Now I can rest my ears after blasting them to hear all this! just kidding

Chiparock

Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 04:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hermione, the first post to use the term "xenophobia" was from Bastable, with whom I agreed:

Friday, October 18, 2002 - 09:55 am
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I like her. But the fact that Robb and Erin are completely ignorant and xenophobic may eliminate her by the end. That they thought it weird and gross that she would eat chicken neck and livers (like, oh, all of Asia, Africa, South America, and Eastern Europe would) just spotlights how shallow and ignorant so many Americans have gotten. Robb and Erin live in a Froot Loops suburban fantasy land. Unfortunately, their vote counts just as much as everyone elses'.
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Without actually referring to Shii Ann's ethnic background, Robb especially gave the impression, through body language and facial expressions, that he was repulsed because eating the organs and neck was so foreign to him.

I may be mistaken in thinking that Robb's reaction to Shii Ann's dining habits exhibits xenophobia. It may be that he dislikes her so intensely for other reasons that anything she does (like breathing) would provoke a negative response. But my gut reaction while watching the show was that he doesn't understand other cultures' eating habits. It would totally shock him, I think, that a vast number of Americans would eat everything but the feathers of a chicken.

Robb is not a vegetarian; he doesn't eat red meat.

Hermione69

Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 05:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks you guys! I appreciate everyone who took the trouble to post the comments that Robb, Erin and Shii Ann made.

Chip, I thought I read that he was a vegetarian. Oops.

Robb has very poor impulse control, don't you think?

Chiparock

Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 06:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hermione, an excerpt from Robb's CBS bio: "He doesn't eat red meat or dairy, but enjoys sushi and eats it three to five times a week." With any luck, on Thailand he should have sushi -- or at least sashimi -- often. Pass the wasabi and soy sauce!

As far as impulse control, I agree that he doesn't control his impulses well, but that may come with time and maturity. I hope he doesn't have to learn the hard way, but sometimes attending the "School of Hard Knocks" is the only way to learn.

Jane_Bond

Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 06:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I believe the "city girls" comment was pretty xenophobic and juvenile. Robb is a suburban kid and I get the impression he has never been around strong, independent, creative, intellectual and successful women - of which there are thousands in cultural centres like NYC.

I believe some of us are using the term xenophobia because we are seeing a few different "phobia" shades like mysogyny and racism and whatever it is called when people from smaller communities fear "the big city". Because these phobias/hatreds are often so subtle, and hard for most of us to acknowledge as I'm sure we all like to believe the worlds we live in are free of such backwardness, xenophobia is an easier term to use to describe his behaviour/comments.

Chiparock

Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 06:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope Robb has had an opportunity at some point to watch Shii Ann's audition video (found on the CBS site). It shows her eating a cricket to prove to the producers that she would eat anything. It ends with her wearing a fur trapper's hat with earflaps, in a NY alley, grubbing through garbage cans and eating whatever she found. It was a hoot!

I wonder what Robb's reaction would have been if Shii Ann had eaten the chicken's feet. The mother of my friend from Hong Kong LOVES the feet best!

Lancecrossfire

Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 06:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Robb enjoyed the hamburger--he enjoyed it a lot. Seems he is willing at laesta little bit to go past his own lines. Not defending, just bringing up a point that hasn't been discussed. Overall I find him to be a bit "intolerant".

Not all people get along--I suspect anyone Robb doesn't care for gets the same basic treatment. Look at what he says about Clay. Robb seems to take thsi to an extreme.

Tester

Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 07:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lance, you make a good point. I didn't think about the hamburger being red meat. His intolerance makes you wonder how he gets along with general public where he tends bar.

Jane_Bond

Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 07:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, but I think Robb's posturing about Clay is in relation to the pirate challenge incident, isn't it? Didn't Clay gloat a little when all the Sookies were getting tossed from the challenge for cheating? I think someone mentioned something about Robb's sense of shame (possible) for his cheating got turned outward to Clay as an obvious target. Did Robb call him a whiny little man? Ironic, since Robb is a whiny big man. Is it at all possible that he was referring to Jeff?

But, I think the only thing that is fascinating about watching Robb is analyzing WHY he doesn't get along with these other people.

Chiparock

Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 08:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lance, you're right -- a hamburger is red meat and Robb REALLY enjoyed the one they bought at the auction. It's not like he was starving; they had won many bunches of bananas.

Bastable

Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 09:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that sometimes you can be xenophobic by simply refusing to acknowledge that some people have different customs than you do. I strongly doubt Robb is experienced enough beyond his shopping-mall world to realize that it's an Asian tradition to eat the nether parts of chicken gizzard, so I don't think he's even aware that his disdain for Shi Ann comes directly from his ignorance of other cultures. So maybe the best term for Robb would be "xenomoronic."

Chiparock

Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 09:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Bastable - that's a wonderfully appropriate, descriptive term for Robb's "affliction"! laugh

Shortnsweet

Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 10:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that should be Robb's new nickname!

Ginger1218

Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 11:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
omg Xenomoronic, I love it. That is the best name I have heard in a long time. Well, I feel if the Xenomoronic one does not care to meet any New York girls, then hopefully he will stay out of NY. I don't see where any NYers would hold any attraction for that "thing". He seems quite ignorant to me and lacking in people skills, and impulse control. I do not see one redeeming quality in him. VOTE HIM OUT NOW!!!!!
Ummm, (I know, say what I reallllly feel) LOL

Babyjaxmom

Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 03:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ginger, let us not forget that this is the man (?) who brought a skateboard to a tropical island as his luxary item. That, to me, says volumes about his intellect--or obvious lack thereof. Xenomoron!!!!!

Kaili

Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 03:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ginger- I agree )you made this comment in the Robb/Ken fight thread) that Jeff just doesn't like him. I watched his tribal council comments towards him twice just because I thought they were funny. Jeff's opinions of the cast seem much more visible this season than in others.

Seamonkey

Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 08:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If he's eating all that sashimi, maybe his brain has been destroyed by the mercury..

Xenomoronic is a EXCELLENT label for Robb.

Sia

Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 10:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hermione, in a clip at CBS.com/Survivor5, Robb makes the statement, ". . .and I don't eat meat. . ." You can find the clip here: Robb on the Switch

Chiparock

Monday, October 21, 2002 - 03:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Seamonkey. If mercury destroyed the xenomoron's brain, then he has a better excuse than simply being a born bone-head.

Sia, good catch. Amazing how Robb can claim not to eat meat after wolfing down a bite of the hamburger and gorging on chicken. Guess it's easy to forget one's principles when one is sick of bananas!

Sia

Monday, October 21, 2002 - 04:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Right, Chip, meat would be their best/only protein source; Robb surely realized that he needed to get some animal protein into his belly. Stephanie said in a post-boot interview that she felt lethargic due to caloric restriction while on the island. She'd cut from a normal 3000 calories/day diet to almost nothing.

Now, I ask you: when people know they're going to be on "Survivor," don't they prepare themselves? In addition to working out, reading survival guides and watching video of all the previous sessions of "Survivor," don't they also cut their diets to almost-nothing and eat only rice for about three months before the taping begins? I'd think that they would cut foods from their diet one at a time, starting with sugars and fats, until they approximate the diet that they will be reduced to in the environment in which the series is slated to be shot.

I don't know, call me an over-planner! I know I wouldn't last a day and I would be extremely unpopular and would be the first one booted, but I like to think that I WOULD at least plan ahead a bit. . .

. . .like not bringing something STUPID & USELESS to a sand-covered island like a SKATEBOARD or FUZZY SLIPPERS!!!

Jeep

Monday, October 21, 2002 - 05:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Does anyone watch "That 70's Show"? Robb reminds me of the character "Michael Kelso". They could be twins, you know, Dude!

Sia

Monday, October 21, 2002 - 05:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I've never seen it, Jeep. I already feel like I watch too much television, and I don't even have cable!

Jeep

Monday, October 21, 2002 - 05:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It's not on cable. I live in the boonies and don't have cable either. It's on FOX. I see it on Tuesday's at 8:00pm. Hubby and I just howl at some of the stuff they come up with. We can remember most of it well! And we both think Rob is related to Kelso!

Sia

Monday, October 21, 2002 - 05:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't GET FOX, Jeep! I get CBS, NBC, ABC (at least half the time) and two public TV stations. No FOX! Boo-hoo.