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Webkitty

Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 06:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You said it Hermione. I gave Brian a good thwap when he won the RC. I don't think he felt it though.

Brian was funny on the elephant. That Clay is a fearless little guy, gotta give him that.

Hermione69

Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 06:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Webkitty, I don't like Clay much because it seems like his humor is derogatory to other people. I don't like that at all.

Csnog

Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 06:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Clay sure is an A$$ man.

Webkitty

Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 06:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hermione, what you said about Clay going next (this thread is moving so fast!) It makes sense, why would HE go to Penny's wedding? JLL.

Although, Ted did say that Clay and Brian were falling for her act, so maybe they bonded more than MB showed us before she got booted.

Hermione69

Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 06:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Web, I just think that they were too busy playing the game to do any REAL bonding anywhere but JLL. Clay and Penny are both major game players and sneaky as anything which doesn't really promote a genuine bond as long as they are still in the game. But at JLL, they can let go of that because they are no longer grasping for the money and get to know each other as real people outside the game context.

I wonder how Ted is feeling now in regards to Clay and Brian? I don't think they are that tight of an alliance of three.

Webkitty

Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 07:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ted is probably pouting. I am liking him less each show. The eyerolls and brooding demenor are as irratating to me as Clay's obnoxious, weasley behavior is to others.

Jan is still freaking me out with her ways too. When she made that comment about the canteen full of beer needing a nipple and then that FACE she made, agh!! When she fell during the RC I felt I should have been concerned for her, but all I felt was irratation that she ruined Helen's chance to win. (what's wrong with me!) I have a feeling she is going all the way, though. No one looks on her as a threat. MB is really playing up her lush side, thats for sure. He doesn't miss a chance to show us this.

Helen was actually cute when she won immunity. She seemed so pleased and sweet about it. She's a strong woman and her wheels are always turning. Liking her more every show.

Brian is still hottie to me, I don't care, I just have it for him. Can't help it.
Jake seems too desperate. It doesn't suit him.

Abbynormal

Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 07:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Csnog LOL. Even my 10 year old said he sure does talk about butts alot!

Babyruth

Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 07:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Clay reminds me of one of those sneaky but dumb little bespectacled rats you see running around underfoot in Disney cartoon movies.

Go Helen! :)

Abbynormal

Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 07:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Twinkie

Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 07:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I could see the show winding down this way:

Jake is the next to get rid of by the original Chuey members. Then the men turn on the women and vote them each out. Then I see Brian and Ted teaming up to get Clay out. Why? Because Clay is pretty good at winning the challenges so he's a threat. Ted hasn't won any so he's no threat to Brian. That leaves Brian and Ted as the last 2 and Brian would win up against Ted.

IMHO

Seamonkey

Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 09:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm watching.. Magilla WAS in the episode.. he ran up a tree-trunk when someone.. Penny? was doing a confessional or voice over.

Mygetaway

Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 09:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Your mouth had overloaded your butt?????? What the heck was that.

Mygetaway

Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 09:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sea, that was a monkey, but I don't think it was The Magilla, if that makes a difference.

Hummingbird

Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 09:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This is an old expression. It means something like - you talk a bigger game than you can play.

Tabbyking

Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 09:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
oh, it HAS to be magilla, or i won't get many answers right on the media game!! lol

Mygetaway

Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 09:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This is the first time I haven't been "glued" to the set, even when I've spoiled the show. I was busy posting instead.
I'm really starting to lean at wanting Helen and Jan as the final two now.

Mygetaway

Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 09:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that Magilla is bigger and has white in his face or chest... but I could be wrong. This monkey was smaller and all brown.. I think.
Sorry Tabby.. Maybe I'm wrong.

Risa

Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 09:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The show: Penny got hers, I'm glad. I never did like women like her. I do like Jake because he is a fine looking man. I'm sorry but I guess he will be next to go. I guess it's fair as Jake had a hand in voting Robb off so turn about...ect. I hope Helen and Jan can survive the man pack but I doubt it. I really cannot stand Clay or Brian, they are so smug.

Mygetaway

Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 09:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't have a picture to compare from tonight, but here is Magilla when he raided the camp.
(Don't ask me why I feel compelled to do this, I don't know..LOL)

magilla

Kaili

Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 09:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The voting was interesting though...clay didn't vote with the group so he must have been out of the loop on something....

Muse

Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 11:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Clay just wanted to vote for Jake to make a point and/or simply out of spite after hearing what Jake said at TC. After all, I don't see why Clay wouldn't be aware of how the rest of the group was voting.

That being said, I think Clay will be getting the boot at the next TC. It was pretty foolish of him and Brian to make their alliance so obvious.

Jo_5329

Friday, November 22, 2002 - 02:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Clay changed his vote on what Jake said --but he may not have if he didn't feel there were enough votes already to give Penny the boot. Clay is a thinker and not as dumb as people have made him out to be.

I was blown away when Brian took Clay with him --

I think Jake is gone next week, unless he wins immunity. Then it's down to the last 5 ... however, once SJ is completely on the panel, then who are they going to chose out of CG to get the money?

Jo

Sia

Friday, November 22, 2002 - 04:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Brian choosing Clay to go along with him on the reward/elephant ride seems the "safest" choice of partners, in my opinion. In announcing that he chose Clay because Clay had helped him get to the finish line (Clay pulled Brian up over the wall rather than Ted), it just seemed gracious and natural to me. I think there's a history of people who win award challenges choosing the runner-up; it's like, "You almost beat me in this competition; I honor your valiant effort by taking you along with me because it could easily have been YOU who won instead of me."

Other possible reasons for taking Clay instead of the others: no matter whom Brian may have chosen, the remaining Tribe members would have been offended--except if Brian chose the person who almost beat him in the challenge (as explained above); any reward challenge this late in the game is sure to involve a big meal, and Ted would EAT more than Clay would eat; Brian and Clay have an alliance; Brian enjoys Clay's company more than that of the other people remaining--or perhaps he can tolerate Clay more easily than he can the others. I wouldn't sit for two hours on the back of an elephant with Jan, who would probably cry and scream for the elephant-handler to stop "making" the elephant perform his job out of concern for the elephant's feelings! LOL! And if Brian had chosen Helen, he would've been in for a two-hour elephant ride to h@ll with the Julia Child of Survivor: Thailand! Man, Clay knows lots of recipes, probably, and he doesn't endlessly recite them. (I didn't notice Helen droning on about cooking this week, but my attention was divided; did I miss this?) Jake and Penny are former Sook Jai members, and I think Brian is loyal to his tribe to the end, so he wouldn't have chosen either of them.

As for Clay, he seems to enjoy stirring things up and being a "mastermind" (in his own mind) behind-the-scenes to keep things unbalanced and disharmonious. The more Clay deflects attention from himself and toward someone like Jake, the longer Clay can stay in the game. He admitted in a confessional piece that he coordinated the three votes for Big Ted last week and that he thinks it's to his advantage to let Ted think the votes came from Sook Jai in order to keep Ted focused on his (Ted's) anger towards Sook Jai in general, and Jake in particular. In this way, Clay is trying to set up Jake as the next target for eviction. I actually thought Jake would be eliminated last night rather than Penny, since I viewed Penny as less of a challenge than Jake in the challenges. I was wrong! Oh, happy day!! Penny's gone!!

Dogdoc

Friday, November 22, 2002 - 05:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Tabbyking, Helene and Aaron, mentioned by Mygetaway, are the Bachelor and his chosen beloved. I actually watched that show too.

Fruitbat

Friday, November 22, 2002 - 05:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Clay and Brian are playing this game hard, as it should be played. I like this. Helen and Jake are no slouches either. I don't see Jan doing anything but being carried at this point. Ted is not doing anything either. He has been sitting still thinking he and Brian will take each other to the end.

It makes sense for Helen and Jan to team with Jake, insuring the final 3 position. Will Helen do this or make a deal with Brian and can she even trust Brian?

This is getting good now and we have to wait two weeks, sigh. I do not hold any high hopes for the recap show giving us new footage. The purpose of this is to attract new viewers and bring them up to speed.