First Impression and Team Picks
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Awareinva | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 09:38 am     Ok after first viewing, here are my first impressions. I liked the team picking concept. Before, Mark B. has decided who will go with who, this way they can't blame anyone but themselves. It gave us two leaders off the bat- even if they don't want to be leaders, they are now a leader figure just because they picked the teams. It could lead to blame (you picked this team), or it could lead to loyalty (well, he picked me and I could have been on the other team. It will be interesting to watch how it will play out. On the picks, at first I thought Jan was just being random and said what is she thinking?!? But on reflection she picked very well. She said she was panicing etc. (and that confessional made her look pathetic- was it a red herring?). I think she was thinking about what the jobs were and who would work together. Bright move. I would have picked Helen or Stephanie first just like they did. I would have picked Shi Ann or Tanya over Ghandia, but I too would have left Erin until last (she has that spoiled brat look- LOL). On the men, Jan did ok too. Ted was a great first choice. I would have picked one of the younger guys (Jake or Brian) before I picked John, but I know why she probably did it. The guy is a pastor and should be great at team work and organizing in a non offensive way (apparently not the case, but can't blame Jan for that ). Overall I give Jan a 92% on her choices. Now Jake on the other hand..... don't get me started!!!!! What does he mean I like to be around young athletic bodies and the good looking people???? What was he thinking??? I liked him a lot from his bio- and actually liked him last night, but I will definitely enjoy watching him reap what he sowed! Where has he lived his life is he didn't realize a team full of 20 somethings will be a team of "me, me, me" for the most part? Yes, that is generalizing, but most 20 year olds are that way just by human nature. I totally don't understand picking Robb over Clay... he had a bunch of young strong people.... try a litte experience. Yeah the guy is smaller but he may have a lot to contribute. Maybe Jake wanted to be the only older and thus the only obvious leader. So Jake gets a 48% for his picks. Unless he can rally Jake and Shi Ann to come together with Stephanie and Erin, Robb will take over and it will be mall rats part deux. Did we even see Stephanie last night? She is either Zoe 2 or a sleeper like Tina (I hope the latter, I liked her from her bio). It was pretty clear that Robb and Ken were a team (which disappointed me in Ken.... he could have buddied up with Jed or Jake- why pick Robb????). Penny was their cheerleader all the way. We didn't see Erin much, but from what we did see I won't be suprised if she falls in Robb's camp too. This may play out with the team divided just like Africa and although strong at first they will divide and fall. And don't even get me started on Robb!!!! Mark B. knew we would hate him didn't he? Does this guy work at Belly's??? Is he a plant? No one can be that way really can they???? LOL He will be fun to watch. |
Niceguy | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 09:50 am     Robb makes BostonRob look like David Niven or Cary Grant. |
Djgirl5235 | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 10:59 am     Robb makes BostonRob look like a saint - never mind Cary Grant!!! This season's Robb is the most annoying creature I have ever met! I would be absolutely throwing him off a cliff within about 2 hours (If I could even last that long!) I am definitely going with Chuaygon(sp) and going to root for them through to the end!!! I don't know why, but I'm not going with the "popular" team this year! Maybe I've decided to start rooting for the underdogs?! All I know, is that I was howling with laughter when just before the immunity challenge, Robb declares that the other team doesn't stand a chance since they're so "strong"... now granted, they won, only because Ghandia had such a hard time with the puzzle, but Chuagon had such a HUGE lead right from the beginning (due to TEAMWORK)that I was laughing and laughing and laughing!!! |
Squaredsc | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:14 am     awareinva, you hit the nail on the head. i don't know if this seasons robb can compare to the robfather. at least the robfather was smart, an can't say the same for this robb, yet. but you can only be so smart bringing a skateboard as a lux item when you have sand. and that chin-ring has got to go. |
Bidasea | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 12:10 pm     I agree with you 100% Square.. I think I am going to like ShiAnn..She said you mess with the bull, you get the horns..I think they are going to lock some serious horns..As he is saying his "I told you so's" during that rain storm, she was giving him the dagger look..That guy would probably bring a surf board to the desert.. |
Grooch | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 12:26 pm     Lol! The Robfather was smart. He had the women doing the work and bringing him the food. This new Robb is pissing off the women. |
Jagger | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 12:39 pm     I like the new Robb, I think he's going to add some life to the show ( well for as long as he lasts before they give him the boot) We have to remember that they edit these shows so they like to make things worse than they are, you never know Rob and Shi-ann may form an alliance. |
Jo_5329 | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:02 pm     I liked the way the new tribes were picked, and there was no chance to make friends ahead of time, so it was random. I think Jan did a great job - notice how that tribe wasn't fighting and spitting at each other the whole hour like the other one? As for Ben (black do rag and piercings) he's 3 times more annoying than BostonRob and he's crusing for a brusing, if you know what I mean. I didn't like John from the get go - something about him rubbed me wrong, so wasn't sad when he got kicked off. I felt bad for Ghandi though - pressure and puzzles don't mix for some folks .. and I wonder if the yelling helped or hurt? Anyway, I think she's going to really add some flavor to that tribe. I love Clay -- he's a hoot .. Ted I think is going to be the leader of Sook Jai .. he seems to have that ability to lead without pissing someone off. But we are just in Show 1. I can't wait for Show 3 --- wonder who's going to go toe to toe? Ben and She Devil maybe? Jo |
Webkitty | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:11 pm     I liked the idea of having the two oldest members choose their own team. Usually, the oldest Survivors are picked off early on in the game and this way gives them just a *little* edge. I like Jake. Nothing wrong with being a fit older man in my book I think I would have gone with a few younger, fit team members too. Although, it DOES look like he might have more than he bargained for with Robb. I think I will like Shii Ann. The rest I will have to see about as the season goes one, I was keeping my eye on Jake Jan, I wasn't that impressed with her. (although she seems like a nice enough person) She confessed that she was flustered at having to pick a team, and I think the only reason that her tribe was ahead in the IC was because food and shelter came easy to them and they were not as worn out as Sook Jai. I'm not conviced that it was entirely teamwork or maturity that got them the lead. Poor Ghandia just blew it. She seems likable enough, but I doubt Red Tribe will give her another pass if she flubs up again. On Chuay GAn the only one that has rubbed me the wrong way is Helen. She came across as judgemental and rather sour to me. I was surprised at Brian. I was prepared to see him as shallow and empty headed, but he seems to have more substance than that. Just first random impressions, subject to change, of course!  |
Wink | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 02:00 pm     Webkitty we're living in each other's brains again. I too was keeping an eye on Jake. Both eyes in fact. I think Shi-Ann could go either way for me but last nite I liked her spunk. I was pleasantly surprised with Brian. Jan doesn't do it for me. I think a single ponytail would have been sufficient.  |
Fruitbat | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 02:59 pm     The person that repelled me straight away was Jan and that opinion held through the entire show to the tears at TC. I immediately liked Jake and I thought he said he was attracted to the young atheletic bodies in reference to making his team choices. Going for youth and strength to win challenges. I liked Ghandia and Ted very much. |
Car54 | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 03:42 pm     Bat, Jan is gonna be MamaKim with pigtails. Ted is my favorite, and I will like Jake if he helps kick Robb off. Ghandia...not sure yet. She is gonna have to be good at something. |
Car54 | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 03:42 pm     Wink, I saw an article someplace today that said Jake was the Survivor cast's Sean Connery..the sexy old guy. |
Hippyt | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 08:00 pm     I think Jake is a hottie too. But I agree,why did he pick all young people? He must not watch the show,he seemed kind of surprised that they didn't know how to do anything together. Jan,well,what can you say about a fifty-something year old woman who wears pigtails and cries on the first day? I wish they'd give her back her medication. She did do a good job picking the team though. |
Awareinva | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 08:50 pm     LOL Car- Mama Kim with pigtails!!! I agree WebKitty that Brian was a pleasant surprise!! Seemed to have a great attitude even after admitting he was praying "please don't let the old lady pick me!" I too think Jake is the hottest of the men, but didn't want to admit it . Figured I'd be showing my age! |
Car54 | Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 01:47 am     Aware, I read that Jan lost like 30 lb while on Survivor. She is gonna be with us a while. |
Hermione69 | Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 08:02 am     At first, I hated the way the tribes were picked, but then, I was the one always picked last in 5th grade dodgeball!!! In this case, since no one knew anyone else, the baggage that goes with always being picked last is pretty irrelevant and may even inspire the later choices to prove a point. It was definitely an interestingt twist. Positive first impressions: Jan-- showed a lot of depth and true strength of character. Clay-- pegged him to be a wuss and was pleasantly surprised at how likable he seems. He was very good-natured at being picked last. Ghandia-- has a lot of heart and was so upset about the IC and how she blew it. I'm glad they kept her because I think she will be a true asset to her tribe (just don't send her off to solve any more puzzles!!) Shii Ann-- feisty and full of gumption! She is the one I am most looking forward to learning more about. Negative impressions: Robb-- entirely too self-impressed. Reminded me of every too cool for you guy that I have ever met. Jake-- seemed a bit too proud of himself for picking the young and strong bunch, although he did quickly start to wonder if that was the right strategy. I didn't like how condescending he came across in his comments about Jan and her choices. Neutral impressions: Tanya-- seems very weak right now and I hope her body adjusts quickly because I'd like to see her stay around so I can learn more about her. Stephanie-- wasn't sure what to make of that flagrant exhibitionist streak, but I admire how strong and fit she is and also that she is a female firefighter. You know how the producers usually pick a certain number of "types"? Token older male, token mother figure, token bimbo... and there has always been a homosexual male... I hope I don't offend anyone with this speculation because that is certainly not my intent, but my brother and I were goodnaturedly trying to figure out who the types were in this group. We did this back in July or August. Anyway, we went through several types and then when we tried to guess the homosexual male, my brother said, "I think it will be Brian" and I said, "He's married!" and I guessed that this time it would not be a male, but a gay woman and it would be Stephanie. I'm probably very wrong and I made this guess a month ago, but who knows? Has anything been said that proves or disproves this guess? Just curious. |
Mygetaway | Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 09:57 pm     I rewatched the show tonight, and I'm left wondering one thing: Were they given the ability to make fire this time? Notice how the making of the fire was never shown, or talked about, where in the past it was a MAJOR issue. Tonight I saw that both teams had a fire. Purple had one the first night, and Orange showed one the next day, but had to have had fire the first night to cook the crabs. I didn't notice this Thursday, as I was watching other things I guess. Has this already been talked about anywhere? |
Tabbyking | Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 10:06 pm     they also lose weight at the loser lodge according to what probst said on the bob and tom show the other day. he said everyone lost weight really quickly this game. faster even than having almost nothing to eat in africa. it may not be a good indicator of how far someone goes in this surviiivor. hell, i lost 8.5 pounds during a half hour episode of 'full house'once! it was a girl. |
Tabbyking | Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 10:07 pm     ps anyone else totally ready for BB to be over and for this and amazing race to take over our lives?! |
Catfat | Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 10:33 pm     My favourite "couple" is the big black guy and the little white guy (sorry, don't know their names yet). Aren't they a hoot together? I can easily see the big guy becoming the leader of the tribe, he is very caring, strong, kind, smart. |
Whoami | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 12:52 am     I agree with ya Tabby. I'm ready for BB to be over. And anxiously awaiting AR! I WISH my family understood this phenomenon. Can you believe my sister called right as TC was starting? She says, "Hi, what are you doing?" I pointedly say, "watching Survivor." Then, of all the NERVE, she just continues on talking! She just didn't get it. *sigh* Thank goodness I tape these things! LOL |
Jo_5329 | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 04:38 am     Hubby and I watched the show again last night, a rewatch for me. (He was snozing on the coach Thursday night for shame!) Chuay Gahn is the team I'm cheering for. I think they are the stronger team right now. And remember, SIV, the team that lost the most members wasn't necessarily the weakest! I think Ted is going to come out to be the "leader" of Chuay Gahn. Clay is going to be comic relief. I don't see why anyone had a problem with Jan .. what the heck did she do to upset some people on here? At least she is not obnoxious as John or Bartender-I'm in charge-Rob!!!!!!!! Of Sook Jai I like Jake, Ken and Shii Ann. Bartender-The world moves when I speak-Rob has got to go first chance. My husband says has lived through Monsoons, and says that Chuay Gahn may end up with problems in the cave, as the tide could rise to the level to flood it - but we'll see. He says Monsoons are no fun, and that Sook Jai should have worried more about "cover" than a floor, and that Jed had the right idea, like Shii Ann - food is just as important. [I don't think he likes Bartender-I skate, therefore I am-Rob very much either] Off to take my walk while the sun rises. Jo |
Bmh | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 10:29 am     I am definitely rooting for Sook-Jai..They are lucky to be all on the same team..they have alot in commom..and will definitely be the more interesting team to watch..I am sure there will be alot of fighting and controversy at their tribe my favorite are Shii Ann,Jed,Jake,and Penny..they are all cool |
Reality_Freak | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 11:10 am     Hermione - I hate to admit it but I was thinking along the same lines with Stephanie. In a family/friend pool I have picked Jake but I found myself rooting for Chuay Ghan any way as I was turned off my the superior attitude of some of those on Sook Jai. My impressions: Jake - smart, quiet leader, confident, a little cocky but I figure he's old and he's earned it. I liked him. Oh... nice looking, too! Robb - obnoxious PITA I didn't care for his attitude at all. I hope Shii Ann scratches his eyes out. Shii Ann - I liked her a lot! While it's important to not make waves early on I liked how she gave it right back to Robb! Go Shii Ann! I liked the bio I just read on here about her too. Especially where she guzzled the alcohol to get rid of it. She's my kind of girl! Jan - a hot ticket, very caring, maybe could have picked a few stronger teammates, awesome swimmer! and sure held up her part of the challenge! More athletic than I had imagined. Brian - very surprised by Brian. I imagined him being a pretty airhead and kind of conceited but he seemed really nice and made a great first impression on me. Guess I was kind of incorrectly comparing him to John from the last survivor. Big mistake! Ghandia - funny, nice, honest, caring, not full of excuses - I'm glad she stayed! Jed - seems nice. I like how he put his arm around Shii Ann when she was upset. I also liked how he handled Robb and just grabbed the axe from him and started chopping. Clay - seems like a character. I liked him. Stephanie - a little surprised by her naked display but seems very strong and athletic. I want to like her so I hope she comes through. Penny - seems sweet and nice so far. Time will tell. Tanya - I couldn't believe she was picked so late. I would have picked her early on. I felt bad for her being sick. I hope she gets over that quick or she's in trouble. Helen - They didn't show her enough for me to form an opinion. I hope she is as athletic as her bio made her out to be. Ken - seems nice. Hope his head isn't swelled by being a NY cop. I also hope he doesn't hook up with Robb. Ted - seems like a hot shit. Calm, smart, strong. I liked him! Erin - no thanks. Her voice makes me cringe. I can see her hooking up with Robb. |
Lancecrossfire | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 06:16 pm     Team picks--first, I loved the way they did it this time. It makes the game much more "random". When BB does it, they can match folks up however they want to promote certain things or certain interactions. This way it is more random as far as waht they (and we) get. Also, it gives the contestants a greater say in what eventually ends up happening. The teams--I can see the logic in both approaches. If you pick all people who are young, full of energy, up on themselves, you increase your chances in the physical and endurance situations. And if you get lucky enough to get one or two that has common sense, reasoning abilities and focus, you are sitting pretty well. Just so happens the latter qualities so far seem to be in short supply. By picking a mixture of young and older, you get some strength, the quickness, etc. You also get folks that have been through a few things and can help be the problem solvers, planners, and ?moderators" for regrouping and keeping focused. You give up something to assure you have both components--no chances. My least favorite was Robb. While he has a ton of energy and provide help in challenges and in daily activities, he seems to be unfocused, and not in tune to needed to interact well with his fellow tribe mates. He doesn't come across as having much respect for others, but I worry about the "what we see" affect for this first show. Time will tell on this one. John--the first to go. He took on a leadership approach, which is always tricky in this game. If he had been the leader to begin with, or there had not been one, I don't think this would look so bad. But Jan was picked to choose the tribe, and as captain, well, you are the captain. I give John credit that most of his ideas and suggestions were correct and for the better of the team. We may have missed him giving poor delivery a number of times. His joke about the water supply--a chance he took. With the right people it would have gone a long way in breaking up tension. With his tribe, it just created more. Erin reminds me a bit of Jenna in BB1, but with a bit more of an attitude. She is definitely very confident in herself. Jan has been looked at as week by some for her being concerned of having to pick her team. Ok, so she isn't a leader by nature or by habit in real life. I give her lots of points for going for it, choosing a very specific approach, and hanging tough. Anyone who comes through in an area they consider themselves weak in gets respect from me. Jake--Jan's counterpart. He seems to be competitive, and he seems to feel his age is not a negative factor in any way. What I look forward to seeing is if Jake leads by making all the choices, or if he has the wisdom in that when they are presented with a situation where others have better knowledge or ability, he defers to them to take the lead and increase the chances of doing better. I think that type of leader/captain will gain respect from his mates. I also think he gained points from Shi Ann for telling Robb he should have yelled at him and not her for what she was doing. Class act on that one! Shi Ann is there to play the game. She could have pulled a John and told them all of her ideas and why they were right (and they were), but she stayed quiet (or at least we are lead to believe so) and did her jobs. She didn't back down from Robb and didn't get into it with him at the same time. I think she will be seen as a threat to win the game very early, and rightfully so. Brian is going to be good at this game. High charisma, able to contribute in a lot of ways, and we are being shown that he looks deeper to see what people are about (don't know if he does, but until something indicates he doesn't, I'll go with what he says about it). I can see him and Shi Ann forming some type of alliance, but I don't know yet who would be best to include. Clay is great from what they have shown, which at this point hasn't been too much. I see a potential for the "Clay and Ted Show" though. These two guys seem to play off one another well and make for a good team bonding model. I look for him to add wisdom where he may not be able to give as much strength and speed. I see him as a quiet competitor. Ken knows how to deal with things under pressure. He can be a calming influence when they need it, and he can notching up when needed. I look for him to be a force in this game. Jake would do well to keep him close and make him a "right hand man" type of thing--and do the same with Shi Ann. The 3 could be a force later in the game. Ghandia brings passion. I didn't like her speech about how women are better than men in everything and how a woman's group could kick a men's group butt. I wouldn't like it being said the other way either. I hope she isn't always thinking about it being a gender thing. And then she had problems on the challenge, which makes her women are better speech seem even more arrogant. That may be minor though and just a blip they wanted us to see. I like her ability to take responsibility for not doing well. She said she felt responsible knowing it could cost her. Makes me think she isn't as arrogant as the way they showed her. She seems bright and able to perform well physically, which is a great combination. Tanya may be in trouble if she stays sick. She seems to be someone who could really help out in challenges and may well have an attitude for the game. If she could just stop puking long enough for us to find out. I like that she worked through it and pressed as hard as she could. As with others, it seems she doesn't accept anything other than success. Penny is someone I can't tell much about yet, but it seems I prefer to believe there is more positive there than negative. Helen is a match to Jake. Older, yet this drive to kick butt, be in the middle of it and go for broke. If Jake and Helen are there at merge time, I predict either a big scene or an alliance. Nothing in the middle with these two. She may be overlooked because of her age, but only by people not paying attention to her. Stephanie is going to be a wild card. She is not going to be content hiding in the shadows and doing the below the radar thing. She is aggressive, confident and strong. Depending on her "attitude", I can see her becoming the next Jerri or the next Colby type. Being a firefighter (the intensity of the job and in a mostly male job) I see her as going balls to the wall because that is her nature. I predict she will be one of those "you either love them or hate them" types. Ted is a impressive physical presence. He has play pro football, so he understands just about every aspect of competition at the highest level and in one of the most demanding sports. Yet he has also shown a lot of humor and a big capacity to be there for a team mate. Almost the "gentle giant" kind of thing. Unless they are hiding something from us about Ted, he will be one of the toughest to beat. He will add just about every dimension needed for his tribe. Once all together, he will be tough to beat, and I predict well liked and respected by just about everyone in the game. Except for maybe Robb. I don't think Ted is going to care for Robb too much if they last till merger. As far as I can tell so far, I think Ted has the best tools to win. Now if he grouped up with Shi Ann and someone like Helen/Jake/Stephanie (take your pick of any 2 from those 3), nothing could get in their way. Jed--I wished they would have shown a little more of him. It seems clear he will be an asset for anything related to physical work or challenges. Seems quick and agile too. I look forward to seeing more of what he has to offer--more on him then. A heck of a group of people. MB seems to have broken the mold someone for pigeonholing the 16. Lots from Texas, more older folks. I look forward to an intense and passionate playing of this round. Many more of them going for broke and fewer UTR approach (A guess of course). |
Lycanthrope | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 07:34 pm     First impressions...hmmm Stephanie- I liked the fact that she was willing to get naked right away. The suggestion by a previous poster that she might be gay I think is wrong. If there is a homosexual female, my bet would be on Helen. Jake- Strong leader, but bad at team picking. I think he could have easily taken Brian over Robb, and then it would look like a much different tribe. But that didn't happen, and so we get mucho conflict. Jan- Too emotional. Seems sweet enough, but she may have a tough time in this game. Erin- Was humbled by being picked last(a good thing). Reserve total judgement, but for now I like her. Jed- He's ready to throw down with Robb, and with a Texan mentality(I'm a Texas lifer) he could be the one that scraps with Robb. So far, he's okay. Robb- As Susan Hawk said, "What a bonehead!". But he makes for interesting T.V. Unlike most posters here, I say keep him for a while. He's entertaining. Brian- Seems like a nice guy. Could be his tribe's ace in the hole during competitions. Helen- Could take her or leave her. Blah. Tanya- Sweet girl, love the accent. Hope she goes far. Penny- Not sure yet. I think she sided w/Robb, which makes her not so great. But that could change. Clay- Just a goofy old guy. I like him. Ted- Probably the strongest of all 16 Survivors(much to the chagrin of Jake). He should go far in this game. Shii Ann- My current favorite. She's got a lot of spunk, and she's the most intelligent person out there. Ghandia- Didn't like her opening comments about the women being superior to the men. Then she screwed up an easy win for her tribe. Why was she doing that chanllenge anyway? I guess just because she's probably the least physically fit person out there, that they thought she might be smart. Well, maybe that's a little harsh, maybe she's just one of those people who don't do well under pressure. From first episode, she's my 2nd least favorite, but that can change. Ted- It looked like he was bonding and siding with Robb, so that would put him on the sh** list no matter what he does for a living. John- So long, we hardly knew you. Assuming the leadership role when it hasn't been offered to you is just an idiotic, obviously unforgivable sin in this game and he paid for his mistake. Prediction to win based on the first 43 minutes of edited film: Brian |
Hummingbird | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 08:57 pm     Ghanda lost my respect she whined "lucky bastards" when her team lost. Luck had nothing to do with it. Her team lost because she couldn't work the puzzle fast enough, period. Jan, bless her heart, is the oldest looking 53 year old I've ever seen. She looks 73. Robb, what can I say? Can't stand the <>. |
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