Archive through November 09, 2002
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Archive through November 09, 2002
Gina8642 | Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 10:42 am     I think we have to expect bikini shots. At least they serve some purpose ratings wise. I may not think it is that interesting, but if they can get a few more viewers out of it, it doesn't bother me. What I'm really sick of is the little 'quirky things that happen when people are cooped up together' snippits. (Helen and her recipes, Jan and her pet cemetary, etc...) Lately survivor is spending WAY MORE time on this, then any thing that moves the plot forward. If you are going to show a 'snippet' and least make it vaugely interesting. But also show some plotting and stratgizing. |
Car54 | Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 10:49 am     The way I look at it is, Survivor is a franchise. Something we know well now. I don't really get that excited the fourth or fifth time I go to McDonalds...do you? Once in a while they have a really cool new playland, but most of the time, it is same ol happy meal, you know? |
Goddessatlaw | Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 11:49 am     Car, you have no idea how excited I'd be to have some McDonald's about now, especially for the 4th or 5th time. A Happy Meal would be a symphony for the palate, as far as I'm concerned. |
Car54 | Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 12:05 pm     You must be really hungry. |
Goddessatlaw | Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 12:07 pm     Just this friggin' Atkins diet - anything you can taste - it's not on it. |
Fruitbat | Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 12:28 pm     Bastable, remember the jug of red liquid that was handed to Clay with the small statue in it? What happened to that? What happened to the shots in the promo showing both Brian and Jan drunk? There definately was a reward that we did not see. My guess is that it was not suitable to show for reasons we will never know. Not interesting perhaps, embarassing, dull? My theory on editing is that they go for the most action and interest not matter what or how it fits into any outcome. They were not shown choosing Erin to go because it created a surprize. Though I did not want her to go, I welcomed the twist. There have been enough shows for any contestant to KNOW that anything they say could be shown. I sense there is a lot of restraint. Robb was, of course, an exception but everyone seems to be very guarded. I am not sure many more seasons of this will work. |
Car54 | Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 12:37 pm     I thought maybe they skipped showing the RC to lead us to believe there was a merge again. Don't they get a feast at the merge instead of an RC? |
Fruitbat | Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 12:47 pm     I think they canned it because it was not interesting. That has GOT to be MB's main focus....good TV. |
Bastable | Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 12:50 pm     Fruitbat, that jar with the statue in it was probably referring to the Immunity Challege, since it involved the tribe members getting submerged, too. But I still think that there was an RC that was completely cut out. If there have been production people announcing that they may shake things up this year and not do a RC from time to time (as a previous poster has said), I would bet dollars that they made that annoucement after shooting was completed, when they knew an RC had been botched and that they'd have to explain it away. The pacing of Thursday's episode was just plain bad. If they took away an RC on purpose, they would have planned something else to occupy that day. Car54, your Happy Meal Analogy is certainly true, but don't you ALSO think that the plotting and editing have been particuarly without steam or foundation this season? |
Fruitbat | Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 12:54 pm     Oh yeah, that sounds right but lame. I agree that this year is just not good but my question is....Is it editing or lack of good footage? |
Car54 | Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 01:00 pm     Without a major revision, this is bound to happen. Everyone...the audience AND the players know the drill here. They know all the dumb stuff that has come before, they know what not to show on camera...that leads to a very constipated group. The only real game is the making and the keeping of the secret, and what has been lost is that the secret isn't very compelling any more. There is only so much they can do. I really think this is to be expected. Same thing has happened on BB...they know all the possible plot twists. The show's ratings are still very high, but I really think MB will get bored before long. I sensed a difference in both him and Jeff when they were promoting this one early on. I don't think they are having as much fun any more either. I bet they will do a couple more...maybe the all star version, and launch some new venture. He is a very creative producer. He will think of something else to do. |
Fruitbat | Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 01:07 pm     I agree, I bet Brazil will be the last. He will come up with something else however and ride this reality train until the interest dies. |
Twinkie | Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 01:14 pm     All I can say is this is the most boring Survivor yet. I used to take the phone off the hook and forbid anyone to ring my doorbell at 8:00 but now I don't really care. Yes I still watch but not like I used to look forward to it. I'm very disappointed with this season. |
Car54 | Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 01:18 pm     I like the show itself. I didn't start coming online to read about it til Africa...it is the frenzy in the spoiling community that is missing. I still watch every week and enjoy the actual show. There is just less to discuss and stress about. |
Fruitbat | Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 01:53 pm     I miss the discussions on strategy but I enjoy the show in a much lower key. |
Tabbyking | Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 02:59 pm     i think he should take 5 couples and give them each a motorhome with one tank of gas, a half dozen bananas and a gallon jug of water and no money. they have to make it to predetermined destinations (not the same one, so they can't just follow each other) earning the money to continue as they travel. field work or lemonade stands or pumping gas or washing dishes for an afternoon or two--only legal activities, which leaves nevada pretty much open!! lol--and see who gets to their destination first. they would each have to travel about 10,000 miles and hit certain check points to make sure they did the entire trip. there would be cameramen with each duo. they would have to traverse the nation north and south and east and west. let's say one couple had to get to gainesville, florida, but had to hit seattle, dallas, cleveland, bangor maine, etc, before arriving there. another couple might have to end up in NYC, but hit los angeles, idaho falls, oklahoma city, yellowstone national park, kansas city, etc, before they got there. all the teams would be heading all over the place, and they have to hit the cities in order! so one town might be in the south and the next one more northwest, so it's like 2 steps forward, half a step back... just an idea. and i love traveling in our motorhome! lol |
Catfat | Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 03:29 pm     There was no need for a reward challenge, since they were all living together anyway. Maybe their suppplies were just given to them. By the way, where did the noodles come from? |
Tabbyking | Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 05:01 pm     i wondered about the noodles, too. thought they might be from a reward challenge, but can't remember one for that particular prize. maybe there was an rc and that's where they came from, and it WAS edited out?! i can't believe 9 adults couldn't figure out that a monkey could take the lid off! i would have wedged it up under a low place in the cave, or something. out of the urine, i mean! |
Awareinva | Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 05:46 pm     They got the noodles last week when they first came together to live at the same beach. That's when Jan and Brian got drunk too. It was like the tribal feast traditionally held with a merge (that's what fooled them and us into thinking it was a merge). |
Tabbyking | Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 05:47 pm     thanks, aware! |
Mamaanja | Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 07:36 pm     Tabby, I LOVE your idea! |
Tabbyking | Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 07:55 pm     wouldn't it be funny?! people making cheap beaded jewelry to sell, or pawning their wedding rings, or stopping at flea markets to sell some jeans or something!! they would have to pay all gas or repair bills (they would be fairly new motorhomes, not expecting any trouble, but a flat tire or new fan belt or anything would have to come out of money you earned!) i think it would be a riot. i would live on pasta and a large jar of tomato sauce. something cheap!! it would be sort of like the old movie "lost in america" where julie hagerty spends their entire nest egg the first night in vegas and she and her husband have to work in some small hick town... |
Tabbyking | Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 08:00 pm     oh yeah, and the prize would have to be at least 500k and the motorhome ;>) and the trip you get would be picked at random when you are all lined up to go! so you can't have planned ahead to ask relatives to wire money to a general delivery box in kalamazoo, if you don't know if you will be there or not!! no phones or calls except to tow companies or to answer 'help wanted' signs. plenty of maps, though!! so you could take your chances on a shortcut or stick to the main highways...too bad p$ckerhead doesn't have someone read these boards! |
Tabbyking | Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 08:12 pm     wouldn't let me edit, so i had to come on again to tell you the perfect name for this show: "REALITY RV" lol |
Csnog | Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 08:43 pm     The Sookies were good at building a shelter. You would think they could build a cage to keep their food safe from the monkeys. I miss the conniving that we used to see on the first 2 shows. |
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