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Tabbyking

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 01:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
maybe jake will win and not take penny. say he takes brian for bonding purposes. then penny will go along with the original chuay gang and vote jake's tush out. maybe that is how penny stays longer than jake.

Hermione69

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 01:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That's some good food for thought, Tabby and Zips. They only problem is the "offends" word. With how much Jake and Penny want to infiltrate the original CG, why would either of them be offended by the other taking a CG on the RC? But it would definitely explain how Penny makes it so far (if the spoilers are indeed true.)

Actually, the original CGs don't need Penny to do anything right now. They have ALL the power if they stick together. They can vote out Jake with or without her and she would be stupid to do join them and lose his jury vote provided she can hang in there to the F2 with immunity or infiltration. BUT if that last Nat. Enq. article is true, Jake doesn't go to the wedding so maybe she does turn on him. The NE reports Clay, but no Jake which some people thought had to be a mistake on the NE's part, but there has apparently been evidence supporting this.

If that is true about Clay being at Penny's wedding, then I would think that they had to either bond on the jury or make it pretty close to the end together. Clay is the only CG that was invited. What brought them together?

(I am basing this all on what I have read on other boards. Of course I was not a guest myself so I am not saying this with any real degree of authority! :) )

Fruitbat

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 02:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Someone offending a friend is important info. It could mean someone from Chewy wins. Brian wins and who does he take? Both Ted and Clay would be offended if they were not chosen.

If either Jake or Penny won and took a Chewy I think they would think that was a smart move. They are desperate to do anything to stay.

Tabbyking

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 02:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
maybe the person PRETENDS to be 'offended' so the others feel bad for him or her and vote the offending person off?!

Whoami

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 02:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, how 'bout this....Brian wins and doesn't take Ted, who has been convinced he and Brian are in it to the end. He is offended Brian didn't take him. In the meantime, he is stewing over the three votes he got, and is the one whose fears are preyed upon by another.

Kaili

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 02:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe Jan wins and takes Jake since they somehow keep getting paired up amyway (picking tribes, the basket thing before the not-a-merge, this last challenge for reward).

Pagal

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 04:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, I haven't read all of the speculation out there about who makes it how far but I'm just wondering if the reason certain folks didn't make it to Penny's wedding is because they just weren't able to attend due to prior commitments, lack of funds, etc.?

Just thinking out loud!

Fruitbat

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 04:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi Pagal, haven't seen you around much. :) I agree. Maybe everyone was invited and just couldn't attend. I would have extended the invitation to all, certainly. I think it is rare to hold grudges ala Susan and Kelly. That was unique. It is a game and I trust most all understand this.

Tabbyking

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 04:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
well, if it was money that kept them from the wedding, they didn't make the last 2 on survivor!!

Pagal

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 06:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL!! Good thought Tabbyking! Hi Fruitbat!! I've been working my tail off so it's been hard to find time to read the messages and post my thoughts so mostly I've just been reading.

I just think it's dumb to make assumptions about who went how far based on whether or not they attended another cast members' wedding. People have lives of their own and can't always be where the National Enquirer thinks they should be!! Not trying to step on anyone's toes here - I'm just saying ya gotta think about the unknown!

Fruitbat

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 06:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree and don't be such a stranger, I enjoy you input, Pagal.

Lycanthrope

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 06:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the reward challenge is probably won by Brian, who takes Penny on the trip. This offends Ted, who was already upset at the votes against him. Jake should tell Ted why the votes were cast against him instead of Brian. Ted should then tell the ladies and wham, Clay is voted out. But that probably won't happen. Speaking of Clay, did anyone notice his eyes light up when Brian's wife was on the screen? It wasn't Brian's posessions he was envious of...

Pagal

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 07:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Fruitbat!

Lycanthrope! I noticed Clay's eyes!! There have been quite a few times that I've noticed his eyes wandering! LOL

Alaginger

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 07:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I watched the show on Thursday night, but did not tape it. When Ted was out in the boat having some time to himself, didn't Clay try to make a pact with Brian about the final two, and didn't Brian kinda say "Yea!"??? If so, then maybe Brian wins the Award Challenge and takes Ted with him (since one of the spoiler boards seems to think Ted is one of the ones on the elephant) and in that case, Clay could be the person left behind with his nose out of joint. Anybody remember that pact talk between Clay and Brian?

Fruitbat

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 07:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes Alaginger, I see that too.

Seamonkey

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 08:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Me too.. Clay was trying to say that it would be good to boot Ted so they'd have his vote at the end.. hmm. why not boot Clay and let him vote??

Car54

Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 05:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
New CBS promo up:

The CBS site has a new promo up.

V/O - "five Survivor episodes left."

Jan holds hands to her face, then walks with torch snuffer to a whole shitload of burning torches.

V/O - "What happens when the castaways play a game where the winner gets to snuff out the loser's torch?"

Jake - "Its not over 'til the fat lady sings, but I think I can hear her warming up."

Ted - (Singing) "my-my-my-my-my . . ."

V/O - . . . And one survivor will need speed and balance . . ."

Female - "Oof!"

Jeff - (Makes Erin whacking herself face again) "Ooh!"

V/O - ". . . to win an astonishing adventure . . . ."

Penny (with eyes closed) - "Oh, my God!"

V/O - " . . . on an all new Survivor, CBS Thursday.

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promo vidcaps

Zipsdaddy

Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 09:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If Jake has caught on to Clay's deception, Jake and Penny should go to Helen and Jan and form an alliance of 4 of them to three(Clay, Brian, and Ted) thus giving them control from here on out....
I think Helen and Jan would agree to it.

Fruitbat

Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 10:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Zips. I don't think Penny and Jake put too much stock in Clays deception though. They knew Ken was the target. Jan and Helen will never make it to the finals if they do not align with Sook and get rid of the boys now. Helen is smart, she should see this.

I don't expect to see them turn on themselves yet though. Jake is next, unfortunately.

Caroline

Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 06:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Been working way too much and haven't post for a couple of weeks...so here are my thoughts: Jake is probably next unless, as Zips projects, Helen is told of Clay's false indications with Jake -- Sorry, but I find Jake a truly nice guy yet a bit slow. I haven't trusted Clay since the first episode and if team alliances run true and historical, Penny would be next -- she is fairly bright and manipulative, though, and may be able to pull something off. So if Clay is the first of the CGs to go, then it's a toss up between Brian, Ted, Helen and Jan. Guess I will wait to see the final four cause all types of positioning will emerge and the littlest things are becoming very significant, as Brian indicated.

Fruitbat

Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 08:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The jury vote should be in their minds at this point. Since the teams remained seperate for so long the jury will be inclined to vote along team lines with maybe the exception of Shi Anne.

It would really not to be to anyones advantage to go up against someone from the opposite team in the finals. Chewy will stay together and only vote one of their own out when Jake and Penny are gone or the remaining one wins IC. That is my thought at the moment.

Car54

Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 08:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Pictures are up of the RC...bamboo balance beams..looks like they have to walk on some, crawl under ....something that the women might actually be able to do as well as the men.

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Car54

Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 08:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually because they merged late and the tribes are uneven, as long as there is no real bad blood, Chuay is assured of a majority on the jury...the art in it is to be able to do away with your tribe members and not piss them off and lose their vote.

Remember...John was the pivotal vote on Marquesas and he voted for Vee instead of Neleh.
If there is one from each tribe on the jury, SJ will have 3, Chuay will have 4 members on the jury. It is all in how they do it when the time comes to eliminate their own.

Fruitbat

Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 09:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Marquesas was an exception <mourning the excitment> because they did not seem to honor original alliances at all. Loved it.

I hear what you are saying. This seems to be a group focused on the game more than personal bonds . It is entirely possible that there will be little bad blood knowing all are out to win and doing what they must.

The women may do better at this challenge. The are smaller which may make the crawling part easier. Balance is another story. Fear of falling and going too slowly are the glitches. If you are afraid you will fall you will and the slower you go the harder it is to maintain your position.

Car54

Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 09:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
There is some spec that the torch snuffing IC will be something like the coconut chopping challenge in Marquesas...hope so..that really brought some people out from UTR. That would help a lot!