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Clp

Sunday, December 15, 2002 - 10:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think all those extraneous shots of the jury smirking are definite MB foreshadowing. I see it playing out as follows;

The Sook Jais gather info one by one from the booted CG's and get the gist that they are voting for Brian. He has totally snowed them all! The SJ's then do what? Thwart CG's wishes by voting as a block for Clay. They don't like him? SO WHAT, they don't want any of the "old weak tribe" to get the money. So they do a little twist on the pagonging CG did to them! Thus, the spoiler about MB, JP, and the crew coming home dissatisfied about the outcome. Also, fits in nicely with the finale title ..."Slips Through Your Fingers" - ie Brian had it won, but it slipped away.

Bastable

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 09:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think they will vote for Clay. Each member of SJ has been promised, in turn, that they're going to the Final Four with Clay, when he knew it was a lie. Brian may have snowed everyone with his charisma, but he didn't lie as baldly as Clay did. No one likes to be lied to.

Fruitbat

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 10:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Good point. I had forgotton about that. I was thinking Clay may have a chance. I have changed my mind.

Car54

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 11:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Depends on what Brian said to them...we don't really know for sure how most of them feel about him. The only mention of him I can recall in any of the boot interviews was Ken...no one else has said anything about him, tho most have mentioned other Chuay's.

Fruitbat

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 12:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He will get the 'game well played' vote. I don't think Brian made any promises. Jake tried and we saw that he did not hear anything from Brian to make him think an alliance was possible.

Twinkie

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 02:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I know what question I most want Jeff to ask. In Ken's post boot interview he said he knew about Brian's porn past because of some of the people he knew and that is the only way he would know them. What I want to know is how does KEN know these same people???

Car54

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 02:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Twinkie... go over to the Ken thread and look at those pictures again. Think about it.

Fruitbat

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 02:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ken is into the same deal. If there is anyone out there that still thinks this guy is straight talk to me in my folder. No way.

Car54

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 02:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I bet Ken would like the Graham Norton show. Wonder if he gets digital cable?

Brenda1966

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 02:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Fruit. I would have bet money that he was straight until I saw that picture in the cop uniform with the handcuffs. Oh my! I can now easily picture him as one of the dancers on Queer as Folk (one of my favorite shows).

But, to me, that still doesn't explain how him and Brian know the same people. Brian wasn't in gay soft porn was he? LOL more! If Survivor were on the Fox network I'm sure we'd get answers to all of this!

Fruitbat

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 02:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nah, he is too busy getting out of the cuffs for TV watching.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

I have too many gay friends that get outraged with the closet to see clearly sometimes. It is a personal choice and I do respect that.

Car54

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 02:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
We don't know he is in the closet. Those pictures are pretty out there.

Fruitbat

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 03:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes I know. I am jumping to a conculsion. There are certainly straight men out there that take any modeling opportunity that comes by. Just thinkin' here. :)

Bastable

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 05:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Fruitbat, yes! My first instinct was that Ken was gay. (Fish back in Ken's folder and you'll see me saying it in October.) And did you see his audition video? Any single man who dotes over this dog THAT much has to be...

Well. Maybe he's not. It's only fun to speculate because we don't know for sure. Personally, I hope he is, because then there will be a lot of happy people looking at that Village People pic. And I love the idea of gay cops. We need more people battling prejudice in the trenches, not just among the intelligensia.

Fruitbat

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 06:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bastable. No way is this man straight.

Yeah, sure, straight men are in porno, and model, and do bondage and suck stuff for money............but I got my money on Ken.

He has the vibe. :)

Bastable

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 07:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Fruitbat! LOL! "sure, straight men...suck stuff for money" I'm gonna poop my shorts! LOL!

Fruitbat

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 07:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Poop away honey.

Seamonkey

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 08:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gives new meaning to the word "COProphagia".

Squaredsc

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 08:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
omg you all think ken is gay, not that there's anything wrong with that, but i just don't see it. even if he is in cuffs and knows the same porn people that brian knows.

ms. bat, you do have a way with words.
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Seamonkey

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 08:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
oops.. I think Coprophilia might be more appropriate, or less inappropriate..

Grooch

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 09:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Square, trust them on this. Ken is most likely gay.

Now whether or not that changes Bastable's opinion of Ken or not, is another story. <Grooch remembers all the unfavorable cop remarks he made in the past. ;) >

P.S. What type of dog does Ken have?

Bryan

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 09:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
a poodle?

Fruitbat

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 05:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
>>>Gives new meaning to the word "COProphagia"<<<

LOL! Seamonkey!

Bastable

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 07:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Grooch, I love cops! When I was growing up in the 'burbs, they were always the most caring, thoughful, careful, supportive, discreet people in town.

I just have some trust issues with New York cops, specifically (I live there now). I've seen them be too nasty to people to get over it easily. And I've also seen them set people up for crimes they didn't commit. I'm sure Ken is all sunshine and roses on the streets, though.

I think Ken's dog is bulldog type of thing. Can anyone identify the breed in his audition tape? It's very cute, that's for sure. (Dogs take after their owners, after all.)

Ariasmum

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 09:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Is that pronounced "cop-'ll-feel-ya" ?

Squaredsc

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 09:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
thanks sea. i still don't see it though.

Hermione69

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 09:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't see it either, even if those pictures are a little hinky. Who knows? Either way he swings is fine with me.

Chiparock

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 10:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
From the CBS site, Ken's bio: "Currently single, Stafford resides in Brooklyn with his two American bulldogs, Bubba and Thumper."

VERY macho.dog

Chiparock

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 10:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The following photo and information are from the United Kennel Club website.

"The essential characteristics of the American Bulldog are those which enable it to work as a hog and cattle catching dog, and a protector of personal property. These tasks require a powerful, agile, confident dog with a large head and powerful jaws. The American Bulldog is a gentle, loving family companion who is fearless enough to face an angry bull or a human intruder. Note: It is common for young American Bulldogs to be somewhat standoffish with strangers. By the time the dog is around 18 months of age, however, the breed's normal confidence asserts itself."
amerbulldog

Ginger1218

Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 07:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I posted this under the Final Show Spoiler - but think it should be here instead:

Ok, I think one of the biggest problems was that the merge came too late. And when they joined the same camp, there were still two tribes and did not get to interract enough. The two tribes did not get to know each other at all, except for maybe Jake. In the past, the tribes had time to know each other, so that when the final vote came, at least you had the feeling that they cared who they voted for and why. This year, none of them really know the other tribe very much. So, I don't think any of them care who the winner is. There was not enough time to develop animosities or friendships.

JMHO

Fruitbat

Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 12:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree. Only Jake and Penny have some idea.

Meggieprice

Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 01:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I cannot see Jake voting for Clay. There was animosity there.

I cannot see Meggie enjoying tonight if my least fave two are the final two. Blech. First Flo and now this.