Archive through December 13, 2002
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Archive through December 13, 2002
Fanny | Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 03:56 pm     FYI, you all probably know this already, but Thursday Nov. 14 was, as Car said, the family video show. The "alleged incident" occurred the following Sunday, Nov. 17. |
Pamy | Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 03:57 pm     The court case is in LA county, I didn't know they lived in CA, were they living in LA before the show aired? |
Wargod | Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 04:02 pm     Quartz Hill, Ca, Pamy...right up the street from me. It was a big deal when we first found out who the Survivors were, but I haven't seen anything in the paper since...oh about the first week or so of Survivor. Of course, I don't usually read the paper so that could be part of why I haven't seen anything either. We are part of LA County though. |
Hermione69 | Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 04:33 pm     If the family video episode precipitated an argument that resulted in violence like this, I'm inclined to think it may have hurt Brian's chances. Or Brian thinks it may have hurt his chances. I know the final voting is supposedly all done now, but maybe he knew something wasn't right and didn't know what until he saw the show and heard people's confessionals. Or maybe seeing it made him panic that he didn't get the votes that he thinks he got. It is odd timing that the argument would occur the weekend after that episode aired. Of course it may be 100% unrelated, but it is still odd timing. CeCe may just be a whack job. Sounds like a rather dysfunctional relationship. Been there, done that, no thank you. |
Car54 | Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 04:38 pm     Maybe she was just mad because he told her to clean up the house. |
Hermione69 | Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 04:42 pm     LOL! |
Tabbyking | Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 05:09 pm     police are just automatically arresting the 'offender' now, because so many (mostly women, because most people who are beat up ARE the women) were afraid to press charges because when the offender came out of jail they would beat them worse than ever...or, God forbid, kill them... so the rule in california (i don't know about the other states) is that arrest is automatic, so it is the 'police' or the system the offender is mostly mad at, not the person they hit. my first husband almost killed me and i didn't press charges because he WOULD have killed me, but i didn't go home again, either. i had to pay for a police escort when i went for my annulment, because he threatened to shoot me from a rooftop on the hearing date. there is no doubt he would have killed me had i returned home. had the law been then that the police automatically arrested the offender, i would have felt somewhat safer; however, i had to quit my job, hide out in a buddhist center, get a different vehicle and eventually leave the state!! and that was when i had been married only 30 days to the creep. i certainly hope it was a one-time 'slap' that just happened to connect, and that this isn't the norm for brian and his wife. i also hope she finds another way to vent her anger. |
Car54 | Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 05:55 pm     Mr Freeze is in the house. |
Llkoolaid | Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 06:54 pm     Porn guy is a creep, I can't wait until he goes which I hope is next. |
Webkitty | Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 07:00 pm     LL, I take it you are not putting any stock in the TDT spoiler that says Brian and Clay are the final two. If Brian wins this, (and I think he will) I have to give MB kudos. A winner hasn't been edited like this since Richard Hatch. Arrogant, assured, cold and calulating. A business trip. Pure and simple. Even if Clay wins, at least we won't have another UTR winner this year! Yea! I KNOW my Survivor, good or bad. PS: wish Helen would win |
Car54 | Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 07:04 pm     LOL, we have come full circle. Wasn't it just a few weeks ago people were saying how undignified it was to call him Porn Guy. Now that seems to be one of the nicer things we can call him. I think he has done a great job in the game. Hope he gets at least $100,000- he gave us that much in entertainment value. |
Fluff | Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 07:07 pm     Porn guy. |
Llkoolaid | Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 07:18 pm     I saw the pictures, porn guy is very appropriate. He has played a good game so far but I never liked him once I read about the porn and the pictures nailed it for me. I know it is petty of me but I can't like him, only for that reason. His arrogance doesn't bother me at all. He is right about knowing how everyone is thinking. He has them all fooled so far. I loved Richard Hatch and hoped he would win right from the start. I would be hoping for Brian but I can't. For gamesmanship he is the best and it makes me feel like a hypocrit for feeling this way about him. I am usually rooting for the most manipulative player. |
Llkoolaid | Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 07:25 pm     Webkitty, no I am not putting any stock in the spoiler. I just can't see him getting away with this to the end. Did these people not watch any other survivors. If he does then good for him because he did a real good job, but I don't think there are any dummies left there and they are all playing for themselves. He has to be thought of as the biggest threat. I want the spoiler to be wrong because I think it would be more entertaining to see Helen and Jan turn this thing around. I am probably wrong but I am hoping that next weeks show has us in shock. |
Webkitty | Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 07:30 pm     Car, I agree. Richard kept me riveted. It was fasinating to watch his wheels go around (and actually have it work out for him) I loved to hate him. I was amazed at Colby, and disapointed that Tina won. Ethan and MamaKim? Eh. (worse Survivor ever, imo) Vee? double eh. Brian, I'm riveted all over again. Its too bad about the porn part, because if it weren't for that I think more would appriciate him just for his playing skills. Oh well. LL, I just saw your post. I would love to see Helen win, but Jan? No. She hasn't done anything to deserve the million but just be there. I'm sick of UTR players winning because they were "nice" and didn't ruffle any feathers. Plus, Jan calls her husband "Mr. Bill" This disturbs me.  |
Llkoolaid | Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 07:36 pm     Don't get me wrong Webkitty, I don't want Jan to win either, I am for Helen all the way. I just want Helen to use Jan to get to the final 2. Clay isn't going to take her and neither will Brian, I think her only hope is Jan. I agree UTR people are boring and I hate when they win because the jury is bitter that they have been outplayed by a better player. |
Tabbyking | Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 09:19 pm     i am also for helen. brian was an idiot for shouting out 'road trip', then not being able to spell 'road' (he sells cars!!?)...saying ted owed him a thanks was just plain stupid. brian gave the answer out--was ted supposed to pretend he didn't hear it and have someone else jump on it?! brian even had a moment or two to correct the spelling of 'road' from 'raod'. i hope brian is out next. then clay...let jan and helen be the final two. i would prefer helen wins the entire thing, but as long as it's not clay or brian, i will be okay with either lady the winner. |
Tabbyking | Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 09:21 pm     webkitty, maybe jan's husband is made of playdough...'mr. bill'... lol |
Fluff | Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 09:43 pm     Oh my heezy, I saw the pics.  |
Allietex | Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 10:00 pm     What's wrong with UTR players? That is a strategy as much as anything else. How many times have we seen people try to lead and shoot themselves in the foot because they had too many guns going at once? Of course the UTR people are not as entertaining but I guess they don't feel they are there to entertain us, they are there to win a million bucks. If it works, it's good. I for one think Jan is a smart savvy lady with a lot more in the brains department than people give her credit for. After all she is the oldest contestant and she has made it to the final four. There was no way she was going to win immunity challenges to stay,or go around manipulating votes like Brian, so she did the only thing she could do. She played the harmless old lady who was willing to do more than her share of the work, remain cheerful, and appear slightly batty. In other words, no threat. If that is not smart playing what is? I hope she or Helen wins. I would rather even Clay win than Brian. I liked Richard Hatch and his arrogance but for some reason Brian's turns me off. |
Tabbyking | Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 10:09 pm     jake was 8 years older than jan. she's just the oldest one left now.... i think she has been just fine--the others are making (nonbinding) alliances here and there and everywhere as fast as jan can grab a wine bottle and shove it down her swimsuit front, and it would be hard to keep it straight, that's for sure. so she is doing right to stand back and be the harmless buddy. while some feel she isn't playing the game, anyone who is still there is playing the game or they wouldn't still be there...they are just playing it differently. when we play rummy, i lay down my sets as i get them, fearing i will be stuck with cards i could have put down; my husband hums along and "WHAM!!!", lays everything out, discards and he's done. we are both playing the same game, just not the same way. i would take jan over clay or brian. i even have to her win, on the topic where we 'placed' the last 5 contestants,but more because i dislike brian and clay at this point, and think helen (who i really want to win) will be ousted by the guys next week, unless she can pull off immunity. |
Risa | Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 10:20 pm     I think Jan is fine. I don't like utr players either. I remember when I first saw Ethan in Africa, I said he is going to win cause he is just soooo friggin nice. On the other hand I don't like the bossy ones who tell everyone how to vote. I really don't like Brian, he is the creepiest person ever to be on this show. |
Allietex | Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 11:51 pm     I meant the oldest surviving. Sorry. |
Alaginger | Friday, December 13, 2002 - 07:01 am     Whoops!!! Based on this article from Smoking Gun, looks like things are not the best they could be at the Heidik household. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/heidikabuse1.html |
Conejo | Friday, December 13, 2002 - 07:15 am     What's a UTR palyer? Personally, I wish none of them would win the money. I think this has been the most boring survivor yet! JMHO FWIW  |
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