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Ginger

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 12:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with the sentiment on Jan. I am really curious as to why she was not a strong contender to be booted off this week. You'd think this group would be aware of the fact that they are a bit shy in the athletic department and Jan seems strong, but not as strong as Tanya would be (once she got over her illness...).

I was disappointed in Ghandia's judgementalism towards Helen. Okay, Helen is not as emotional as Ghandia. Why is that a problem?

Still I am rooting for the "old folks" team. Many on the other team irritate me, especially Stephanie and Jed (is it Jed?) and Robb aka "skateboard on a tropical island freak."

Wanna know what's killing me? I happen to be VERY close to someone who was one of the main, high-up-in-the-ranks producers of Survivor 5. In fact, my husband was even offered a job to work on Survivor 5 as another high-up person, but turned it down (though I practically threatened to KILL him for doing so, not for the money, but so I could be in the know!). So what this means is that our friend knows who the final two are. He knows all the ins and outs of what happened and why and how. He was on that island every single day, supervising the shooting, the challenges, the tribal council, etc. He sent me all this insider cool Survivor gear and regalia, but he will not--he CAN NOT--say a word about what happened.

UGH! Just thought I'd vent!

Pamy

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 12:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought Jan was dead when they showed her floating in the water

Jkm

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 01:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ginger!! Kind of the "I could tell, but then I'd have to kill you" stuff - former (nosey) Navy wife -- I understand!!

Good luck!!

That would truely kill me!

Fluff

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 01:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Pamy, I seriously thought the same thing! She looked kinda limp.

Rosa

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 01:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I like Helen and but hope the others don't see her as too controlling as she mentioned herself on the last show. Helen should be on the other team as Jan's team is going fast. Why would anyone have a problem with Helen fixing the squid they found? I would have been happy that she knew how to prepare it. Helen is invaluable right now. Later she might be a problem with her type a personality but she is great for the team right now. I did not like John from the start and am glad he is gone. On the CBS morning show he admitted he went on the show hoping to convert people to Christianity(yuck). I guess he assumed anyone that doesn't believe as him is a heathen (sic)and needs his help. Then there is ShiiAnn, a very controlling, whinning woman. Anyone that gives themseves a nickname (or family nick name) has idenity problems and needs help, I really think she will be a pain in the ass. If you mess with the she- devil you get the horns? What is that suppose to mean? Finally, Rob, I really don't care what everyone thinks, all I know is I like looking at him and find him an exciting addition to the show but I thought I saw him choking poor little Clay(who is adorable) in the show previews.Lol that could be a problem. I am a little old lady of 56 and I don't have an answer for Jan's age but I look like her daughter so what can I tell you. Something is wrong there- later guys.

Dogdoc

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 01:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm glad other people go worried when they saw Jan floating. I did a double-take. I am also glad to see my BB friends here. Next week we add AR.

Dogdoc

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 01:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm glad other people got worried when they saw Jan floating. I did a double-take. I am also glad to see my BB friends here. Next week we add AR.

Gidget

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 01:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jan must have too much sun wrinkles because her body looks otherwise firm and by 50 something if she had had a big weight loss she would be much saggier. Plus she's from Florida. The sun can be brutal down there plus the year round temperate weather lends itself to outdoor activities.

Twiggyish

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 02:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yup Gidget, I see it all the time with a lot of people. I think it's got to do with how much exposure to the sun and how your skin reacts.

I'm pale as a ghost, so there's no worry here..LOL

Pamy

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 02:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jkm..I know the feeling also(retired Navy wife) but now I am on the other side of the fence, I am a juror on a high profile criminal case out here and I can't talk to anyone about it, it is killing me!!!! I would never be able to work on one of these shows or be in the Navy

Gidget

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 02:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Me too twiggy. I haven't sunbathed in 20 years. I married someone darker than me and no matter how much I tried I looked like a ghost next to him. Then a few years later I went to have a growth removed at the dermatologist which turned out to be nothing but during the exam (more humiliating than gyn in my book) he found something he felt the need to excise which had pre-cancerous cells. That cured me for good. I'm very careful about sun exposure.

On the otherhand, if I ever lose all the weight I need to, I'll need a little red wagon to truck around the remaining sag LOL

Webkitty

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 05:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What surprised me most about last nights show was my turn around on Helen. I didn't like her on the first show. She reminded me of Nichole (even her voice)

But, when she was stuggling with the water and Jan was floating by the boat, a switch just flipped for me. That would have made me see red too.
Jan irratates me NO END! (and its only the second show! Ack!)

Jan may only be 53 (hard to believe) but she has (from what MB has shown me so far) the typical "senior" mentality/attitude I see all the time down here in Florida. (not that there's anything wrong with being a senior)

Helen may not have the people skills that Brian has but she does seem to have an inner stength and I think there's more to her than meets the eye, and now I hope she doesn't get booted. (although Jake and Brian are still my favs)

Hermione69

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 05:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just have a hard time believing that Jan would be THAT inconsiderate of Helen. I think something was left out of what happened there. Either Helen told her to stay and rest for some reason and she would get the water, or they decided someone should stay with the boat. Helen never called Jan on her supposedly poor behavior and it never came up as a topic of conversation at the camp, at least not that we saw, and if something had been said, I would think MB would have aired it for the drama. You know he loves that drama. I think they were trying to create something out of nothing with some careful cropping and editing. So many people on the boards talked about how boring last night's episode was, don't you think if MB had something real, he'd have gone with it? That whole bit with Jan and Helen looked too incomplete to me. MHO, FWIW and all that. I've posted on this twice now. Guess I should shut up now!

Rosa

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 05:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Kitty, I feel like Helen is in a team full of losers. Also why did 2 women have to get the water while the men played golf? I loved what Helen said about the gun, that was too funny.

Squaredsc

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 07:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ginger, what about getting him stinking drunk and pumping him for info?? we need inside information and we need it now. <grin> and to me also helen looked like she was dead, lol. i don't know what that was about. i also like helen, for now, and don't understand ghan or clay's dislike. and i certainly wouldn't have minded if she wanted to cook the squid, 'cause i wouldn't have wanted to touch it until after it was cooked.

Lycanthrope

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 07:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, I did a turnaround on a few of them last night. Robb didn't seem as bad as he did in week 1. I like Shii Ann, Ken, Erin, and Jake on SJ and Ted, Brian, and Helen on CG. I liked Tanya too.

Helen is only 6 years younger than Jan...chew on that a minute.

Jed is misrepresenting my home state.

The firefighter isn't very smart.

Ghandia needs to keep her hands to herself.

Is it just me, or does Erin look a lot like S4's Cleopatra impersonator(can't recall the name right now).

Next week's episode looks very cool...

Juju2bigdog

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 07:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hahahaha, Fruitbat and others. I was calling Jan's team the old lady's team until I realized the old lady is younger than me! I went to my 35 year high school reunion last year, where everybody there was 53. NOBODY looked as old as Jan. Of course, maybe only the young looking ones go to 35 year reunions, LOL.

Sallycat

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 08:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Put a hat on Jan and it would be like Minnie Pearl has come back!

By Clay's remarks it sounded as if Helen elected herself to go and took off. She was so sure she could eyeball the location with no map. Poor Jan was whipped after they took so long to get there. Her job was to hold the boat from drifting and bail water out with the tiny cup.

Hummingbird

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 09:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, Jan is a Minnie Pearl look-alike. Erin looks and sounds like that chick who played The Nanny. What's her name (Fran something)?

I like Helen but didn't care for the vote for Clay because he "doesn't need the money as much as the rest of us." I really hate that class envy crap! Reminds me of the dentist that the spoiled brats voted out in S3. And Curtis losing BB1 because Josh told people Curtis was already rich.

Ginger

Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 07:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Squaredsc...good idea! Bring on the whiskey!

Wow, Helen is only six years younger than Jan. Thanks for pointing that out, Lycanthrope. I agree with you all about Jan's age being a rather amazing fact. I just assumed she was in her sixties. Can it really just be too much exposure to the sun? Good thing I've had several consecutive non-tan summers in my adult life.

I think it's Fran Drescher (spelling?) that you are comparing Erin to, Hummingbird, and you hit it right on the head!

Rosa

Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 12:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hummingbird, I also think they booted Carl on Africa Survivor which I felt was the best but the harshest. Carl was a successful man and they kept questioning him about his finances and the car he drove which was very unfair. I honestly thought they would have to truck the lot of them out of that awful place. I remember MaMa Kim as being in her 60's wearing a thong and looking great. She amazed me.

Queenfish

Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 06:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My mother will be 60 in February. She looks 15 years younger than Jan. I didn't realize Jan was only 53 until I read this thread. Wow.

Fruitbat

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 06:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ginger! OMG. Your husband did not take the job............did you threaten, plead and bargain? I am curious as to why he didn't. I know it was a business decision but I have to know. I really want to have at him!

You know, it would have been awful if he had because he would have told you, the show would not be as enjoyable and you could not participate here fully or at least have as much fun with it.

Ginger

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 07:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fruitbat! Sure, TRY to convince me that my husband not taking the job was "for the best"! I was going to GET TO GO WITH HIM! Oh, but nooooo, my husband has this thing, most people call it integrity, and he likes to work on films and shows that actually make the world a better place. Meaning, instead of getting the inside scoop on a gaggle of hotties trying to win a reality TV show I get to hear stories about people with AIDS in China, kids undergoing life-saving surgeries in Armenia and...you know THAT stuff. Which is to say, SIGH, I am very proud of my husband, but could he not have sacrificed one summer in order to feed my unquenchable reality TV thirst?

I'm kidding! He's a gem and I am the luckiest woman in the world. Still, I'll see what I can do to charm some information out of our friend...who happens to have been the best man at our wedding...