Archive through October 20, 2002
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Archive through October 20, 2002
Wiseolowl | Friday, October 11, 2002 - 05:59 am     Muse I found that interesting too. It would fun if there were one. It sure would be an odd couple arrangement - but they are the ones that seem to work. |
Chiparock | Friday, October 11, 2002 - 06:07 am     I too thought that Brian made those sexist remarks in jest. Plus, we don't know what the men actually do, since it is edited to show only the women "working." Cooking over fire (barbeque) is often the province of men. Sweeping the sand in front of the cave? Get real. Why bother??!! I suspect that some clean out of boredom (though I certainly wouldn't)! Muse, you make an excellent observation which is probably absolutely correct. Brian is the type of young, fit, sailor Helen works with in her job, more so than any of the others on the tribe. Hence, she would feel closer to him and would be more inclined to ally herself with him, IMHO. I wonder who gets the water these days .... |
Djgirl5235 | Friday, October 11, 2002 - 06:16 am     I wonder if I'm the only one who noticed this: Everytime the women would be complaining about the men, they would outline who wasn't doing what, ie: Clay sits around and sleeps all day, and does absolutely nothing around camp; Ted lazes around and just sort of meanders about not doing anything productive. There was NEVER any mention of Brian this and Brian that. I am certain that Brian's the one that will bring back the food for the ladies to cook, and I admit, if I was out there, I would probably pick up the subservient cook & clean role as well... it's ingrained into my brain that women are supposed to keep things neat and organized, and cleaning would definitely kill some of the boredom... Also - I'm sure that Brian's comments were made in jest - his entire body language related that to me, and he's still #1 in my book - take it all the way home, Bri! |
Hermione69 | Friday, October 11, 2002 - 06:33 am     Good observation, Djgirl. Everyone seems to like Brian in that tribe. He is sitting pretty for now. |
Fruitbat | Friday, October 11, 2002 - 06:53 am     DJ. Yes, I hadn't noticed that Brian was left out of their complaints. MB is highlighting the gender line and keeping all else hidden at the moment. Brian is bright and his strategy is to keep his mouth shut, observe and not to make waves. He is probably well liked by all. |
Realfan | Friday, October 11, 2002 - 10:32 am     <<He had a wry smile on his face and I am totally convinced it was tongue in cheek. His expression and the twinkle in his eye said it all. He was joking and simultaneously noticing how they actually were duplicating a pattern found in primative cultures>> Exactly. And he's right about the primitive cultures, whether we believe that's sexist or not. It's still the way work is divided in 75% of the world today. I still like Brian. I wasn't at all surprised Helen voted with the men (didn't Ghandia plot to get her out of there a show or two ago?). So I wouldn't be surprised to learn they were allied. And the editing played a large part in making it look like none of the men ever did ANYTHING, which I find hard to believe. On the water--did the red berets help them build a cistern to collect rainwater? That's what it looked like Brian and one of them were doing during their visit (buildintg a bamboo-lined pit in the ground.) That would make so much sense. I wish they would show us. And yeah, if they're still hiking for the water, whoever does that chore is contributing a lot. |
Jagger | Friday, October 11, 2002 - 10:38 am     As soon as I heard the comment he made about this I wondered how many people would be ripping on him for it. If I remember right he said they were living in primate times where the men were the hunters and the females did the cooking and cleaning, that they belonged in the kitchen. Than his remark about he had some laundry for them to do was hillareous. I am sure he was doing the majority of this for both a joke and a play to the cameras. I think if he were like that in real life his wife would probably kick his butt. |
Brenda1966 | Friday, October 11, 2002 - 10:57 am     I laughed at his comments too but knew that others would take them seriously and use it as a reason to dislike him. The look on his face was a smirk and told it all for me. Also, did you notice that they did show him in a clip moving a pot of water/food for Helen. He was barely showing on the right side of the screen, but he was helping. I also have to wonder how much of the "work" is self created. Who says the cave has to be swept every day? The women may have taken this upon themselves and then complain about it whereas the men could care less if anyone sweeps. The editors sure did make the men look like a bunch of lazy bums however. But I think women like Ghandia are never satisfied. If one of the guys tried to cook she's probably complain about how awful it was. Back to Brian... still liking him a lot! |
Hermione69 | Friday, October 11, 2002 - 11:11 am     Whether we think he was serious or not, we can agree to disagree without having to put other people down for their perceptions. I personally thought his comments about the men's role and women's role was rather matter-of-fact and not to-die-for serious, but not a joke either. It is kind of the way it goes sometimes. I certainly am not using it as a reason to dislike him. I did think that the laundry remark was a joking comment. |
Wiseolowl | Friday, October 11, 2002 - 12:48 pm     Folks I'm a guy who has been house-trained for many years - take a modest 1500 sq. ft. bungalow- cleaning : keeping kitchen clean -stove cleaning , fridge cleaning cupboard cleaning , mopping and scrubbing floors on hands and knees- grease all over that needs to be dealt with - Do we need to talk about the rest of the house - vacuuming rugs, furniture , dusting ,polishing , cleaning walls, washing windows - it goes on and on - and the sad part is , when you finish , you start all over again Let's talk food - we're not talking Beef Wellington or Peking Duck - it's pretty basic food - and until Ghandia left, there were three of them, assuming the women did all of the work , which I don't buy - they are bored and finding things to complain about. This is a camping experience- not the Plaza Hotel |
Realfan | Friday, October 11, 2002 - 01:38 pm     I think the men just wanted to get away from Ghandia, and leaving for a good part of the way was a good way to do that. All that tension in the camp, with five people not wanting to talk to her--it would drive ME away, too. Then when the women complained about the men being lazy, Brian was asked about that by a cameraman, and joked about it. But I don't think it was the real issue in camp. Ghandia was. |
Lilliegirl | Friday, October 11, 2002 - 06:16 pm     I agree with Realfan, who would want to hang around with Ghandia, the women got a taste of her and they were tired of her mouth running all the time and im glad Helen could see it and vote her off and for Brian that was a joke it made me laugh and then people try to turn it all around which is so stupid, we do have single men who clean there own houses so what is the big deal here. |
Gina8642 | Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 07:51 am     Does anyone else have the feeling that Brian makes it to the final two? I just have this feeling and I don't know why. I've never had one this strong in a reality TV show before. |
Moondance | Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 09:01 am     There is an image of a person at the very end of the opening credits with light all around and it looks like Brian's image... ever since I saw that I feel he is in the final 2 and/or is the winner. |
Car54 | Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 09:04 am     There is a post at SS about a radio interview with Jeff yesterday and he made it pretty clear Brian is his favorite player. That has been a pretty good sign in the past for players who go far. |
Weinermr | Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 09:22 am     The fire/water thing in the opening credits has been discussed elsewhere. I find that Brian, Ted, and Shii-Ann all have fire around them in the opening credits. The rest have water or neither. |
Moondance | Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 09:24 am     Hi Muscicman! What I am talking about is the very last image before the credits are done... you can't see who it is but the image looks like it could be Brian... watch it next time |
Ginger | Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 10:39 am     I agree Hermione! Let's keep this sweet, you guys. No one is saying they don't like Brian. Some of us are just a bit curious about those statements he made that may or may not have been a joke. No one is silly for having their own opinion/interpretation. We're here for discussion and wouldn't this place be a bore if we all agreed? I, for one, was such an enthusiastic member of the Brian love-fest, that I am more than willing to let him win me back! Come on Brian win me back... |
Gina8642 | Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 12:20 pm     I'm really on the fence about Brian. There are many things I like about him and many things that make me leery about rooting for him. However, I'm still nearly positive he makes final two. |
Fruitbat | Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 08:12 pm     I agree, Moon. I didn't see that but he is a major condender. I like the man. |
Ladytex | Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 09:34 pm     I haven't liked him from the beginning, so his comments didn't mean much one way or the other. Having said that, most of the people that I take an immediate dislike to end up winning or come close to winning these things so ................ |
Shortnsweet | Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 10:06 pm     Have you guys seen this week's extra video footage of Brian on the CBS Survivor site? Here is a link (Click on "Brian's opinion"): http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor5/show/episode04/s5video.shtml I think it is very interesting. |
Realfan | Friday, October 18, 2002 - 01:01 pm     Brian is playing very smart. I realized last night that there's not a single other tribe member who would want to vote him out first. Everyone else has another "target." That's an ideal position to be in. Also, Ted thinks they have this tight alliance, but Brian didn't sound like he was actually committing to it. He's laying back and allowing Ted to think they're allied, meanwhile keeping his options open. Clever... I also liked that he didn't slam Jan, even though he identified her as the next to go. He was quite nice about it, in fact. Oh, and he's hot, too. |
Chiparock | Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 08:23 am     I just viewed Brian's audition tape on the CBS site and found it illuminating. The man is a salesman par excellence. In the video, he discusses his ability to manipulate people's emotions to do his bidding. We've seen his skill in action, with Ted. He's the Machiavelli of sales. No wonder he got on the show. To see his audition tape, go to: http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor5/survivors/bios/brian.shtml |
Spunky | Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 08:48 am     His face is so familiar but I can't remember where I've seen it before. It was in a movie for sure and he was an actor, so it's possible. But everytime I see Brian I try to remember where I've seen him before... weird. |
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