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Calamity

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 08:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This vegetarian makes a mental note not to check the Shi Ann thread ever again. Ick!

Car54

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 08:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Calamity, me too. I was gonna have chicken for supper last night and changed my mind. Baked potato for me!

Webkitty

Friday, October 25, 2002 - 06:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Did anyone else notice the smirk she had during TC last night?
This makes me think that either the rest of SJ told her that they were voting Robb off when he went on that jungle walk with Ken, or that she has some hidden alliance (unlikely)

Also, did anyone else think it was odd that she got all flustered during the IC and needed help with the decision on how many poles to take?

I was getting the impression that she was taking that opportunity to let everyone know she might not be that good in future mental IIC, and not a threat to vote off after the merge? Just a thought.

Jagger

Friday, October 25, 2002 - 07:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think she has an alliance with Ken and Jake and has had one with them since the beginning. I personally can't stand her, she brags about how smart she is and how she could have won other challenges that she decided not to try winning. Last night when she was suppose to show her brains she totally blew it and wasn't able to figure out how many poles to take.

Chiparock

Friday, October 25, 2002 - 07:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Her claiming to be confused in the IC may have been a ploy. She could have had all the possible combinations figured out at the beginning, but suspecting Robb would be the fall guy if they lost, she played dumb. Could be she threw that challenge. If she did brag about knowing what to do in the camera confessional, we'll never know.

Hermione69

Friday, October 25, 2002 - 07:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
She was very nervous about being voted out last week. She must have had a complete turnaround in confidence to throw another IC. That doesn't seem very likely to me. Not to mention that it would have given SJ the upper hand at the merge if CG lost another immunity, and no matter what her feelings for Robb are, surely she would have wanted that advantage. Not having it makes her own future too precarious. The benefits of throwing it are not as great as the increased vulnerability that going into a merge with equal numbers brings. Not to mention that she looked really, really frustrated with herself during the challenge. I think she miscalculated and got irritated with herself.

Jane_Bond

Friday, October 25, 2002 - 07:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That "smirk" did not look so to me. In fact, they showed the exact same shot the week before. It's Shi's polite grim smile face.

Bastable

Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 07:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't blame her for responding the way she did. We all thought it was a merge. If it had been, it would have brought her to the end. I probably would have played it the same way. I'm gonna miss her!!

Chiparock

Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 08:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I liked Shii Ann more than any other of the Survivors. The rest of the game won't be nearly as interesting to me without her. <sigh>

Guess I'll go wallow in disappointment for awhile. linus

Grooch

Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 08:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'll miss her too.

She was honest to Ken and Jake about the way she was thinking, and told them she would tell them what she decides.

I understand Ken's and Jake's thinking, but I think what Shi anne told them about Penny will come true, and bite them in the @ss and then it will be to late for them.

She gave a great final council where she honestly told them how she felt and what she thought. That should have counted for something.

But like I said before, I understand (but don't agree) with the rest for voting her off. They could not trust her to do what they wanted. They still have a chance with that with Penny.

Fruitbat

Friday, November 01, 2002 - 03:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
No offical new name, no banner, no buffs, merge was not said by Jeff......if she had only made note of that....sigh. I immediately picked up on that with Jeffs wording...."both tribes will now live on the same beach." She was my favorite.

Jo_5329

Friday, November 01, 2002 - 04:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fruit, I missed it and so did hubby and he's better at catching stuff like that.

But we did like the idea of them getting to know the other tribe the way they did. I think they were sick of each other and getting to meet the other members seemed to lift everyone's spirits some ...

... on in Jan's case ... some got into the "spirit" of it a bit too much ;)

Wiseolowl

Friday, November 01, 2002 - 05:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It seemed to be the consensus of the board members prior to last night's show , that Shi Ann was going to get the boot. - she appeared the most likely candidate, merge or no merge.
Am surprised that she didn't lobby Ken and Jake prior to the Tribal Council rather than at the Council itself when minds are already made up.
If there is a Jake-Penny-Erin pact it would have at least put Ken, her buddy, on notice.
As well, in her discussion with Ken on the beach she could have disclosed her misgivings and at least extracted a guarantee that Penny would go before her . If he could deliver Jake's vote then she wouldn't go to the other side . In the case of a 5-5 tie depending on what the tie - breaker rule was , supposedly there would be only a one in ten chance she would go. If it was a merge situation ,it would be unlikely that she would be the target of the other tribe as they all seemed to like her. Am very surprised that she went as far out on a limb as she did.

Jagger

Friday, November 01, 2002 - 05:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm so happy she is gone, I haven't liked her since the first time she opened her mouth. Best part is that she did it to herself, she just couldn't keep her mouth shut and turned on her tribe way too early. Open mouth insert foot and head to losers camp.

Risa

Friday, November 01, 2002 - 06:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I didn't like her either because of Robb, she should have gone before him. ShiAnn was right though about Ken and his "cop" persona, I guess he and Penny think they're running things. I don't like them either. Now that I think about it, I only really like Helen and Jan.

Squaredsc

Friday, November 01, 2002 - 06:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i am soo sorry she is gone, but i had a feeling she would leave. but i am soo glad that she finally got a chance to enjoy herself more and she came out of her shell. i have liked her from the very beginning. and it is understandable that everyone would think that they merged, i thought it too and was shocked even though with the promos i was expecting something unexpected but not this.

im going to miss her.

Car54

Friday, November 01, 2002 - 06:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought she was an interesting, viable player, but she really did herself in by not playing defensively.

Seems like every twist, there is one player who wins the booby prize. It was her turn.

Cynthia57

Friday, November 01, 2002 - 06:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I, too, thought the way Jeff worded the "merge" was unusual. I would have probably mentioned it to the other tribe members had I been there. That being said, I can understand why Shi Anne said and acted the way she did. She was miserable in her tribe and all of a sudden she's around genuinely happy people and she lets loose and enjoys herself and wants to be wirh the happy people.

I can also see why her tribe voted her out. They had to since they "knew" she would defect.

Sorry to see you go Shi Anne.

Hermione69

Friday, November 01, 2002 - 07:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Car, I thought Erin won the booby prize.

Car54

Friday, November 01, 2002 - 07:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually, Herm, for all her endowments, Erin is playing a very good game, and we all know the "Sweetheart" usually makes it pretty far by being likeable. She is playing it pretty far UTR now that Robb is gone. Smart.

Shii Ann just totally lost it and was more concerned about making friends than winning the game. They got her.

Hermione69

Friday, November 01, 2002 - 08:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, I know. I was trying to be funny. Now we all know why I am a librarian and not a comedian! I like Erin fine. She is playing a good game. I can't wait to see how immunity is handled next week. Do you think it will be tribe or individual?

Hermione69

Friday, November 01, 2002 - 08:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That is probably a question for another thread, though. This is the Shii thread. Whoops. I'm going to miss her and hope Penny goes soon!

Spunky

Friday, November 01, 2002 - 08:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
For all her smarts she made a huge error, assuming too much, assuming it was a merger when it was not spelled out as such. She should have realized something was not quite right with the two tribes being together. And when Ken kept asking her if she was defecting and that she should stay with the team she should have explored with Ken the possibility that it wasn't a merger after all. It must have been editing, but surely Shi Anne must have asked Ken "aren't we playing individually?". We saw that Ken never offered a better explanation as to why he was insisting she stay with the team. He must have been pretty sure the teams were not merged.

That error cost her but also that sneaky twist did her in.

Grooch

Friday, November 01, 2002 - 09:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Didn't they ALL make the mistake of thinking that the teams had merged? They all looked surprised when Jeff told them they weren't.

It was important to Ken that she stuck with them,so they wouldn't be pagonged by the other team.

Karuuna

Friday, November 01, 2002 - 10:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Shii Ann made a mistake whether it was a merge or not. Even if it was a merge, and she defected, *no one* would ever trust her again, not even her new allies. By switching tribes, her best place finish would have likely been sixth, by sticking with her own team, her best place finish might be fifth.

It's always a bad move in games that hang on alliances to show yourself to be disloyal. At the same time, I can understand how tempting switching sides would have been given the way she had been treated.