**Tonights Show 09/19/02**
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Bbtimes3

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 06:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh my gosh Hippyt!!!! Really???? I'll check it out. :)

Jan

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 06:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
thanks hipp..was their a preview for next week?

Lombadier

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 06:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bad move. They should have voted off the woman that lost them the competition.

Tabbyking

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 06:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
so the two groups are 'sockeye' and 'chihuahuas', right? lol
can't wait to see this show. great posts on here, thanks guys and gals!

Donut

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 08:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hi tabbyking! i thought it was Soup's On! and Chewing Gum...

Abby7

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 09:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
sorry, i'm trying to explain to someone just watching the show. (i read this thread so am pretty much ignored tonight's show). anyway, he asked me a question, and i answered him (according to what i now think i mis-read on this thread).

so why do YOU think they voted out JOhn. i went back to this thread to review...but one section was "page not available" (the page i needed).

did they vote john out only because he decided to go climb the rock and play the joke about the water?

that's all i could find. why else would they vote off john. sorry i missed it and really want to explain to someone.

Duncan

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 09:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There had to have been things happening with John that they didn't show. My gut feeling from the start was that he seemed like a really annoying person, and that little joke he played about the water cistern didn't go over too well with the others. My initial picks for the night was that either John or Robb would go. Robb really does seem to have a bad attitude, and appears to be quite clueless about what is going on.

Realfan

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 10:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I feel so smart! :) I can't help it. I speculated to my family that they would have two captains pick members for their "teams", just like on the playground, and they did! (I didn't think it would be the men vs. women twist they hinted at, because they later said we didn't know what the twist was.)

Just felt like saying... Not that anyone else cares! LOL!!

Also, I LOVE the tribal council set. It's awesome! Siam is such an old and rich civilization, and they've really taken advantage of that. The first boats they arrived on were amazing, too.

Vanillarose

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 10:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My feeling about John was that he wanted to be the tribal "leader", and when he wasn't accepted as the leader (it seems he was probably abrasive, somehow), he decided to mostly go his own way.

The odd thing was that I couldnt't get a handle on whether or not there is an alliance in the voting.

I don't think that the tribe was very wise in their choice of who to vote off. I think John would have been more beneficial to the tribe during the competitions. I liked Ghandia a lot, but for the good of the tribe she should have been voted off. She seems up to neither the mental challenges or the athletic ones. I hope I'm wrong.

My favorite player so far is Ted. He seems like such a sweet guy!!! His concern for the others seems genuine. Of course this is only the first epi., so of course I reserve the right to change my mind.

Fruitbat

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 04:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Realfan, I guessed that too.

I think Jan is probably the weakest member and should have been voted out. It is pretty early to lose muscle even if John were abrasive. Always good to take someone no one likes along with you too. :)

Earthmother

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 07:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
John was negative from the very beginning and I can't say as I blame them for wanting him gone. They need to work together and I saw him as being very self-oriented.

Do the people who chose these players say "Oh, your name is Rob..Well, are you a pain in the arse? cuz if you are we want you." Why does it not surprise me that this is the guy who brought a skateboard to a JUNGLE!!!!

Mamaanja

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 07:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I love the new gold-plated ornate fire dousing ladle.

Aussiedeb

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 07:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think EM because they know it will draw viewers to see this loser on S5 with a skateboard lol

But yep the name says it all doesn't it? I hope he is gone soon...can't stand him..

Pamy

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 09:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I really like the people on the orange tribe. I like Tanya, and hope she does go far, it's kinda sad watching knowing about her Dad.
Did anyone notice in the opening credits 2 people are hugging and you can see one crying, I need to watch the tape to see if one is Tanya, if it is, the one hugging her has to be there til the last week. The only one I don't like so far is the bartender, what an ass!!!

Realfan

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fruity, we're just brilliant, is all! I thought the team choosing might cause some good conflict--no one likes being last, who is picked, etc.

I would love to know more from both the captains their rationale as to why they picked who they picked. It seemed the old lady (Jan?) chose the people she perceived as being less popular, less pretty, less white, probably because she could relate to that. Whereas the guy chose the young strong ones--and it looks like he's ending up with a load of alpha males/females he can't control.

It also makes for instant conflict in that Jan and Jake(?) are set up as tribal leaders, when it may be a role they don't want or one that makes them vulnerable.

I was annoyed by the pretty young girl who saw all her prettyish contemporaries going to the other tribe, and being bummed she was stuck with the uglies. It's like these people never watched previous Survivors. The best, most stable alliances and bonds have been formed with a younger/older blend, I think (Tina/Colby, Roger/Elizabeth, Rudy/Rich, and on BB3 Danielle/Jason.) It's not about flirting with the pumped up young guys, but winning a strategy game!

Mamaanja--wasn't the ladle (snuffer?) cool? And the idol, too! Their Tribal Council set shows the success of the show, I think. It's so lavish and lovely, it looks like the King of Siam's palace. (Where's Yul when you need him? He'd whip these puppies into shape!).

Oh, and the SCENERY is GORGEOUS. Those rocks are awesome! I would have been afraid to swim for a mile though--I'd still be recovering, if I hadn't drowned!

Earthmother--I found the "Rob" coincidence funny, too! I am so glad that the young black man seems genuinely nice--I get so sick of the "angry black man" casting.

I felt sorry for Ghandia, but thought she probably should have been the one to go. I wonder how they pick who will do the puzzles and thiings. I would like to see a little more of their decision making in that regard. I am excellent at puzzles (do jigsaws all the time), but I would be afraid of letting the tribe down and failing under pressure.

Grooch

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Realfan, my guess that Ghandia did the puzzle is because since she is a legal secretary, I would assume being one, you would have to be a pretty sensible person, who is around logical thinking all day, and have to work well under pressure.

It's a shame that she panicked and took so long. But I have a feeling she won't make that mistake twice. :)

Pottedplant

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 12:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
& would that be because you think she is going? :)

I thought they should have voted her out, they had a tremendous lead & she blew it.

Grooch

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 12:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think she will be staying for awhile. There are a few others that will go before her (Jan and Clay)

After this first competition, she will calm down and be more focused. She seems like an intelligent woman to me. I think it was first competition nerves.

But I could be completely wrong.

Duncan

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 12:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Grooch....what do logic and the law have to do with each other? :)

Grooch

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
<chuckling quietly to self at Duncan's comment, while hiding behind the bushes and waiting for Goddessatlaw to come and give him a smackdown.>

Earthmother

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 05:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Realfan, wasn't the General last season named Rob too as well as the Robfather?..not a good omen!! lol