Archive through October 22, 2002
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Archive through October 22, 2002
Pamy | Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 12:56 pm     I don't think he will use his NYPD 9-11 connection to sway anyone in the game. My hubby was in Operation Enduring Freedom, risking his life, protecting our country, etc and he never 'brags' about it. I do!, but he doesn't feel any different from any other salior. He was just doing his job, and that operation was part of it. So, I wouldn't think he deserved special treatment because he was just doing his job. JMHO |
Risa | Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 03:31 pm     He doesn't have to do much since it was announced in the beginning that he was an NYC policeman. That kind of set the tone for the whole game for me. That's like bringing in Mother Teresa or something and then expecting people to vote that person out. Ken has to know this, it's not his fault or anything, it's just a fact. |
Whit4you | Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 03:46 pm     There is alot we don't know about Ken in regards to this. Alot of things that'd change my personal judgement on him, he apparently was working at ground zero after 9-11 did he let that be known or did someone else? Keep in mind this was filmed perhaps 6 months after so it would be huge huge part of his life and something he would talk about not necissarly for any sort of advancement in this game but beause it was the biggest event ever in his life so he'd still be talking about it. So even if he was the one that let it out that he was there dealing with things most of us could not even imagine - it doesn't mean he did so for game strategy but because it's the #1 thing on his mind at the time. I don't know when apps were taken for this game but I have a feeling they were taken prior to 9-11 - so you can't fault him there... and if they WERE done after 9-11 I still couldn't fault him personally because this entire coountry demanded we go on ... move on... and if he choose to try to get involved in something and get a break from ny for a while then that's a personal decision he made. I know alot of people decided to try to move on - so he wouldn't be alone there. |
Lancecrossfire | Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 04:08 pm     The one that let it out was Jeff actually--in a round about way. He had everyone introduce themselves before the teams were picked. All he said was that he was a polic officer in NYC. Nothing about 9/11 in any way what so ever. If he has said a word about it since, it hasn't been shown on the show. I would hope the jury would vote for or against him based on what he did in the game. |
Car54 | Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 04:24 pm     Stephanie is a firefighter, there are 9/11 victims on TAR this season, Eric was a firefighter on BB3... I suspect there is some value to the producers to have these players, but you really can't fault the players for applying. I think Ken is playing a good, low key game so far. He is letting the more flamboyant people on the tribe play themselves out. They need his steadiness for the challenges and if he stays low key he will last after the merge. |
Tabbyking | Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 06:23 pm     i thought maybe ken painted the NYPD on his arm as a way of saying 'hey!' to his buddies for when they watched this show. i know probst said 'at first' the others did not know how they were supposed to react to ken, because they were in awe. once that passed, he was fair game like everyone else. some people are commenting they don't like the team in amazing race that has the gal whose brother died and his best friend who is now her boyfriend. which doesn't make sense to me. it was mentioned once about 9/11 when they related how they got together, (all the teams told us how they got together, so this was normal), so it kind of irritates me when people comment how this couple is using 9/11, as if it would give them a leg up. i am wondering how they think a RACE works?! maybe they think another team would let this couple pass them up?! if john vito and jill win the race, it's because they were a good team, not because of 9/11. no one votes these guys out like they do on survivor. even on survivor, when it gets to dog eat dog, ken's 9/11 connection won't mean anything. it may be carried him for a little while, but probably not even that. i mean ken out before the ghandias, jeds and tanyas? ghandia and jed earned their tickets out and tanya's health got her out. too bad, because i think she would have done well if she hadn't gotten so sick right at the start. then to have her father die while she was away...poor thing! so far, ken seems to be flying under the radar, but so do jan, erin and some of the others. we probably missed learning more about each of the other players so far due to ghandia's air time!! she had more air than michael jordan...i fully expect nike to come out with an air ghandia shoe soon! it will be cheap and uncomfortable, and wear out in a couple of weeks' time. lol |
Chiparock | Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 06:44 pm     Tabbyking, that is an excellent possibility: a non-verbal "shout-out" to his buddies -- a wonderful idea, and very touching. [You really had me ROFLMAO describing the "Air Ghandia shoe"!] Whit, I didn't know Ken worked at Ground Zero. That adds to his heroic stature.
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Chiparock | Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 06:54 pm     September 11, 2001 has affected everyone. We will never forget.
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Curmutt | Monday, October 14, 2002 - 07:25 pm     Interesting thoughts from "Mario Lanza," a writer at www.survivornews.net, who ranks Ken at #3: "No one's gonna vote against a cop from NYC for a while, even if he hasn't done much yet. His danger period is rapidly approaching, though. Midgame is deadly to the best athlete in the game. Did you notice he had "9-11-01" painted on his arm during the immunity challenge? Knowing the way networks milk 9/11, I'm surprised CBS didn't have a commercial featuring just that image, Ken's arm, solving puzzles for America, this week on Survivor (cue sad music)." |
Djgirl5235 | Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 09:43 am     The only thing that I haven't seen from anyone else is that almost everyone on the SJ tribe had something written on themselves - Erin's luxury item were body paints. As it has been said (Whit) I would imagine that Ken was proud of the assistance he could provide on that sad day, and that it wasn't meant in any malicious, or self-serving way. As it has also been said, Ken doesn't stand a chance of actually reaching the final two, since who would take him with them into the finals?! |
Squaredsc | Friday, October 18, 2002 - 06:59 pm     bumpity bump. this hottie deserves to be at the top. and dare i say it, he is better looking than hunter from last season and has a better personality, imo. running before moonie smacks me....  |
Wiseolowl | Friday, October 18, 2002 - 07:06 pm     Oh Gerry, please come over here , I'd like to introduce you to Mr. Alpha Male..............puke puke |
Bastable | Friday, October 18, 2002 - 09:36 pm     I'm not judging the inside (there's not enough information so far to do so), but I will say that he's the hunkiest Survivor we've ever had. I've never seen him here on the streets of NYC, but that may be because all the women (and some of the men) are busy trying to get arrested by him. |
Car54 | Friday, October 18, 2002 - 10:06 pm     In one of the interviews, Jeff said people kind of automatically respected Ken because he is a NYC policeman, and that made things interesting later in the game. That must mean he makes it til later in the game. I want to see him after the merge... when there are other young strong guys (who are not idiots)... it will be interesting to see how he and someone like Brian or Ted will do together. |
Hermione69 | Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 06:09 am     Car, Good catch on that "later in the game" comment by JP. I bet he does make the merge at least and I'd like to see his interactions with CG also. (He is flat-out gorgeous, too!) |
Whit4you | Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 01:06 am     Ok Mods - we've been good and I know you love us, so how about putting the picture from POST 1 of this thread at the TOP of the area (you know like you have instructions in the top of the various games in the game area?) Would be nice to see his picture everytime we open the thread < |
Csnog | Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 06:06 am     It will be interesting to see Ken and Brian interact together. Two male lions in the lair circling each other, that is IF MB allows us to see it. |
Chiparock | Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 06:11 am     Bastable, to see Ken on the beat you'd have to go the 79th precinct (which is the Bedford-Stuyvesant section of Brooklyn, for those not familiar with NY). That's where he said he was stationed in his audition tape. Speaking of his audition tape, I had trouble hearing some of it, but it's worth checking out anyway, on the CBS site. It shows his dogs, and he stands in one place discussing his resume. Then there's a second part in which he portrays a stereotypical Brooklyn tough guy talking trash. If you liked Rocky, you'll love this! Whit, this post may make it to the top:  |
Hermione69 | Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 07:07 am     He makes me knees go weak. I know this has nothing whatsoever to do with how well he plays the game of Survivor, but he makes my knees go weak. |
Wiseolowl | Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 07:40 am     It was many years ago that I saw a documnentary on Bedford-Stuyvesant .It was depicted as about the worst place in New York. The report made the ashphalt jungle look like a family picnic area by comparison. Maybe that's changed hopefully. |
Ozarktracy | Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 07:50 am     LOL, I have to add to this thread by saying that I LOVE his voice. Whew, I just watched his audition tape again, lol. And I don't mean his tough guy impressionation, LOL. My husband is also from the NYC area but after having lived with me and hearing my southern accent for 18 years, his accent isn't as dead on as Ken's, until he gets around his family or talks to them on the phone. This also adds nothing to the serious discussion about how he'll do in the game, but I just have to add this :-) I hope he does go far in the game, I also see that he's got leadership potential. I just hope the others don't see this and get jealous/threatened. |
Spunky | Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 08:50 am     We'll finally see him coming out of the shadow when Robb has an argument with him...well, we saw (in the preview) how Robb is hotblooded but Ken needs to show some nerve too... |
Ginger1218 | Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 11:38 am     Wiseolowl, Bedford Stuyvesant is a very very bad neighborhood. Probably one of the most dangerous in NYC. Definitely one of the most dangerous in Brooklyn. Ranks in the top 3 in Brooklyn. Although the City is trying to restore the neighborhood and change it. It is not the place where you want to walk alone at night (or in the day) |
Shortnsweet | Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 03:27 pm     If you really like Ken, there is a little extra video of him on the CBS Survivor site under "Ken describes Robb's attack": http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor5/show/episode05/s5video.shtml |
Hereiam | Tuesday, October 22, 2002 - 12:43 pm     I did not know where to put this so here it is --- Why do they sit Ken out in the challenges? It seems like he has sat out more than any other tribemate except Shi ann. I may just be remembering incorrectly but I think he has sat out at least a few times including the fish sort and the tower building. He appears to be in good shape and seems like he would be an asset in physical and mental challenges. I just don't understand it. |
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