Archive through April 05, 2002
The ClubHouse: Archives: Episode 7 Title: True Lies:
Archive through April 05, 2002
Webkitty | Friday, April 05, 2002 - 10:20 am     The only thing I know is Kathy is going to play a part in all this. She's a wheeler dealer and is ready to go into the merge playing the game full tilt. (JMO) The big three here are Rob, John and Kathy. Each one of them are ready to take charge and make the game work for them. I don't think any of them are muched loved by the others so they will have to do well in the IIC. This next episode in the merge, right? I think Kathy will play both sides of the fence and agree to vote off Rob if John or herself win IIC and agree to the same thing with Rob. I don't know if that could be consider true lies or not...... |
Car54 | Friday, April 05, 2002 - 10:24 am     Wink, I think you are exactly right. Same with what Zoe said...it is true, they are all friends, but it is not...there was an alliance. Rob is doing something we have not seen since Sue Hawk... open, public confrontations with people. Very entertaining...puts people on edge...they were expecting to plan and plot in secret, and he is demanding public discussion. He is really throwing the game off balance. I like this a lot.  |
Wink | Friday, April 05, 2002 - 10:52 am     Car I like it too. As much as I dislike Rob for his comments about his fellow players I am beginning to think his strategy, (much as I'd like to think it's dumb luck), has gotten him much farther in the game than I for one would ever have thought possible. I would love to know how he got to be the "leader" in the IC. He's obviously putting some of his psychology background to work by forcing people to confront in the open like you said. Kathy will probably actually like this aspect of the game after the comments she made prior to the vote last nite. I wonder if it's enuff to swing her to his side. Pappy may also be interested in this aspect so I think he has a possibility of a couple of new allies. |
Squaredsc | Friday, April 05, 2002 - 11:02 am     car/wink i agree also, i like to see things out in the open, even though most are lying out in the open but its good to see who squirms. tammy could also be a target for john 'cause she didn't try to throw the challenge like he wanted and in his mind this may mean that he doesn't have total control over her and could be lying to her and trying to axe her next?? any thoughts?  |
Grooch | Friday, April 05, 2002 - 11:09 am     Square, Tammy was the last one tied up. I don't think there was any possible way she could have helped to throw it. She was dragged along by Rob and the rest. |
Wink | Friday, April 05, 2002 - 11:26 am     Square I don't think Tammy or Zoe are too fond of John and neither strikes me as allowing any man to have control over them. I think they will "allow" John to think he does because that keeps him out front and target material. I think Tammy, Zoe and Robert are all letting John think he's the Big Boss but I don't think any of them would let him target one of them for boot. Rob is the one John needs to worry about and that's where he needs to focus his energy. |
Car54 | Friday, April 05, 2002 - 11:57 am     Nope, if you think about it, Neleh and Pappy are going to be a bit bewildered. I think something is gonna happen with the praying, then a confrontation with Rob, where the alliances and untruths are revealed...this causes Kathy to get paranoid.. the J/Z/T/R alliance realizes they can't manage her. Sean and Vee are beginning to bond with Pappy and Neleh because of religion creating a little group of 4. S&V letting Rob do all the talking, staying way UTR. The True Lie is that John agreed to boot P/N/K BEFORE he tries to boot R/S/V. Once Rob makes that public, Kathy is going to go nutty, P&N are going to align with the old Mara to form a gang of 5. It is true that he said it, but a lie because he probably never intended to do it. It puts everyone up to look very bad to the returning Rotus. John would be the obvious first target, but something will keep him in for one more episode... either HE wins immunity, or Kathy is so nutty she makes herself a bigger target than he is. If Rob acquires Neleh and Paschel, he has a 5 man block of votes. That is as far as I have gotten so far.... that's my story for today til I read something better to change my mind. How's that for a little Friday speculation? |
Wink | Friday, April 05, 2002 - 12:06 pm     I think MsBat is really going to like this one. |
Car54 | Friday, April 05, 2002 - 12:07 pm     Pictures of last night's merge preview: EP 7 Merge |
Llkoolaid | Friday, April 05, 2002 - 12:28 pm     I posted this in the wrong thread so I am trying out my newly learned skill of copy and paste. Here goes:I think that John is going. From the previews I got that Kathy is trying to be swayed to one side and doesn't trust anyone. It is definately on between Rob and John. Paschal does not like Gabe being voted off and I don't think he is going to be happy with John because he will be told about the alliance of John and Company and won't trust him. I really think Paschal and Neleh will side with Rob and Kathy being the swing vote. She said they are all lying to me so she doesn't trust any of them. I think she will align with Pappy and Neleh because they showed an alliance to her when they kept her over Gina. I think John is gone the next show and then you might see new alliances being formed to get rid of Rob later. Remember in Survivor 2 Colby, Keith and Tina kept Jerri until they didn't need her. As soon as they had a majority without her she was gone. I see a definate possibility for next week of Paschal,Neleh,Kathy,Rob, Sean and Vee against John,Robert, Zoe, and Tammy. That would make it 6 against 4. I think unless John wins immunity he will be gone. The next week they can afford to get rid of Rob because it would still leave them with a 5-3 majority. Rob will think he is running the show but I think Paschal,Neleh and Kathy are going to have the most control. Rob is really strong for individual immunity so I think they will boot him as soon as they can after John. Paschal is a judge, he is smart, he knows people and he knows a lie when he is being told one. He will figure out who the biggest threats to himself staying in the game until the final 4 are. I think people are going to get the boot in this order John, Rob, Zoe, Sean , depending upon who wins the individual immunities. I'll shut up now, I get one right and I think I know it all. |
Hippyt | Friday, April 05, 2002 - 12:32 pm     That makes sense to me Car. I was also thinking True Lies in terms of Zoe.She told Rob there is no alliance,maybe she was telling the truth.I think Wink is correct that Tammy and Zoe (and Robert,he said it last night) are leaving John out there as a target.If Rob does what you say,tattling,and why wouldn't he????Then Paschal and Rob would be unlikely alliances,and vote John,with all their cohorts.Then T/Z/R better jump on the boat and vote for John too,or they're next!!! Does that make any sense? |
Grooch | Friday, April 05, 2002 - 12:34 pm     I think that True Lies means that Arnold Schwarzenegger is going to make a guest appearence, and he will be part of the reward challenge. |
Wink | Friday, April 05, 2002 - 01:00 pm     Earth to Grooch.
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Judy | Friday, April 05, 2002 - 01:15 pm     I agree Grooch- either Arnold or Jamie Lee- they could both use a career boost. Maybe Jamie Lee will fly over the islands dangling from a copter... My dog is named after Schwarzenegger- click on my name for a pic |
Judy | Friday, April 05, 2002 - 01:15 pm     oops double post- I HATE when that happens! |
Car54 | Friday, April 05, 2002 - 01:17 pm     I agree, just not this week. Everyone in the J/R/Z/T alliance is gonna look really bad to the returning Mara trades. They booted Gabe, aligning with the lazy*sses (according to Gina) to do it. They told Rob they would vote out K/N/P before the R/S/V.... Kathy has Rob and his guys telling her one thing, but the evidence of Gabe being booted tells her something else...I would think they are ALL liars and I would be pretty paranoid. Kathy is gonna hear one story from Tammy and Zoe, then she is gonna hear another from Vee and Sean, and from Rob, to whom Zoe DID lie. And John did say he would boot them first. John is going, but that is coming later. You are right, his own alliance is putting him out there to be the first one booted. Kathy is scheduled to go this week. Then John, Then Tammy. Ya gotta keep up with the spoilers! LOL Wink! Groochie, what channel were you receiving on your tin-foil hat? |
Moondance | Friday, April 05, 2002 - 01:18 pm     I am in love with your Kitties and Arnold, Judy! |
Judy | Friday, April 05, 2002 - 01:21 pm     Thanks Moon- aren't they precious? I need to update my kitty pics- can't even fit one of them in that basket anymore! |
Moondance | Friday, April 05, 2002 - 01:25 pm     Too cute! I am waiting for the pill that makes them stay kitties!\clipart[wink} |
Tksoard | Friday, April 05, 2002 - 01:31 pm     Those are beautiful kids, Judy!!  |
Urgrace | Friday, April 05, 2002 - 02:37 pm     Why does everybody keep putting Vee in an alliance with Sean and Rob? They even talked about Vee distancing herself from them in the last episode. Vee has been trying to keep her distance from all "drama" and fly totally UTR. As far as True Lies, why not look at John. He told the new Rotus that he would vote out the old Rotus first. John wants them to believe that, but is it going to remain true once the tribe merges? Tammy, Zoe, Robert and John will tell Neleh, Paschal and Kathy why Gabe left. He didn't want to _play_ the game. |
Car54 | Friday, April 05, 2002 - 02:39 pm     Because she keeps voting with them. She voted with them at Maraamu, and has when she had the chance at Rotu. Until she does something to show she is not with them, she will be associated with them. I will be really cranky if she pulls a Mamakim and floats to the final 4. I want people who get in there and stand for something. |
Urgrace | Friday, April 05, 2002 - 02:40 pm     'duh'ble post |
Gina8642 | Friday, April 05, 2002 - 02:43 pm     CBS's promo for next week (True Lies) -The tribes merge, and confrontations are quick to ensue. -Rob confronts some of the tribe members and urges them to "tell the truth." -A secret alliance forms between two unlikely castaways. -Kathy finds out some uncomfortable news. The first two were pretty much shown in the scenes from next week, but the latter two are new. Someone is allianing with someone. Maybe an one of the K/P/N group with S/R/V. That type of alliance is the only thing that will over power the Rotu 4 (except maybe their own stupidity). The last hint sounds alot like a physical problem. MB/CBS seems to be enjoying humiliated Kathy a bit, I can see them continuing with the theme. Maybe an infection or something. Remember the big deal they made about Tom's boil. They love to devotee air time to that sort of stuff. |
Gina8642 | Friday, April 05, 2002 - 02:46 pm     Did you notice that Vee is so far UTR that she wasn't even mentioned in Gina's Early Show appearance? (At least not on the clips on CBS's website) |
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