Episode 5 Title:  The End of Innocence
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Moondance

Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 01:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Survivor: Marquesas
The End of Innocence
A fifth person is voted off the island. Jeff Probst is the host.

Neko

Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 03:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
End of Innocence eh?
Hmmm...no one on the show is "Innocent" so it must have a double meaning..
Maybe that Rotu finally loses an IC...

Moondance

Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 07:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hmmmmmmmmm..........

Spoiler for next episode

letshavefun3
Registered User
(3/16/02 8:03:19 pm)
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I have seen 15 minutes of the next episode and that's all the facts I'll give, so no one gets in trouble. Here is what I see, the two tribes do not switch or anything like that, they are given a map and told to bring their belongings and whatever they have from their camps that they can carry. They do not know that they will meet the other tribe their. This is their new camp and JP tells them that they have officially merged as one. They did not say the new tribes name and he also stated that everybody would compose the jury that is part of the new merged tribe (which would explain why they merged at 13 people, so there is no tie at the end). Everyone seemed shocked, especially Rotu.

Lilliegirl

Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 07:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Moondance, this is getting very interesting.Now we will see who thinks they will be the leader not Sean or Rob LMAO.

Car54

Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 07:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope this is what happens- it would get us to individual competitions, I love the idea of a bigger jury...more catty comments in the finale!

But things get a lot harder and more tense when the merge happens... merging at ep 4 means this is going to be a long haul!

Moondance

Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 07:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I like it too!:) Bring it on!

Tntitanfan

Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 07:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, if they merge, I am going to be yelling "pagong everybody but Gina!" Rotu seems so solid that I am hoping this is what will happen - guys first, of course!

Moondance

Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 07:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes!! What Tntitan said!

Tksoard

Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 08:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ALL RIGHT!!! Car, that means my picks WILL come true!! Look at all the points "theowl" will get next week!!! HOOO HOOOO!!!!!

Crazydog

Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 08:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't find the thread where someone posted the list of names with the "flashes" during the intro. Could someone repost it here so we can see if that holds anything? I thought the flashing names were supposed to suggest who makes the merge... so far it had been correct, right?

Moondance

Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 09:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Moondance Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 09:22 pm

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Here is a post from SS

steinguy919
Registered User
(3/14/02 5:40:02 pm)
Reply Flashing Faces Intro Spoiler
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Originally posted 3/8/02:

Maybe this is nothing. But maybe not.
I've always been a huge fan of Theme Intro Spoilers, and this was something someone told me of. They said that the merge took place at 8 people and that those who make it are revealed through the still frames of the players in the opening intro.

In there, 8 contestants clearly have a white flash go across there freeze frame shot in the intro. It is clear to see when you run a frame by frame playing. 8 contestants do not.

From Rotu: Neleh, Robert, and Paschal do not have flashing faces.
But Kathy, John, Tammy, Zoe, and Gabe do.

From Maraamu: Peter, Patricia, Hunter, Gina, and Sarah do not have flashing faces.
But Rob, Sean, and Vee do.


Merge:
Kathy
John
Tammy
Zoe
Gabe

Rob
Sean
Vee

Moondance

Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 09:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Intro to Show Thread

Joan

Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 02:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Interesting. So far, it could be right!

Pamy

Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 02:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This only shows 8 making the merge, I thought they said 13 make the merge.

Fruitbat

Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 05:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If...IF, the teams merge I see Sean going. I read the thread on that link above and I tend to agree that the poster did not post enough details, then dissappeared when asked for further clairification. Why all the secrecy once the spoiler was posted? No point. If they do merge it is not a big deal because we are waiting for this anyway.

If they remain I lean toward Gina going. I do not think Rotu will lose IC. If they did, it would be under very quirky circumstances. We are being set up to think it is Kathy again.

Moondance

Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 08:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Pamy they two different spoilers in this thread.

Pamy

Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 09:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Moon, you are so good to help me here!

Kep421

Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 10:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What if they have the tribal counsel earlier in the show and the scene described above happens after tribal counsel?

Could it be that Maramoron loses again, Gina gets booted and MB does the merge the very next morning?

I find this new twist very interesting indeed!!!! The anticipation for Wednesday increases...now if I could only figure out how to vote!

Sallycat

Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 11:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If this happens, new alliances can be made thus changing everything. Very interesting!

Fruitbat

Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 03:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I see pagoning if the merge is this week. I see pagonging with the merge at anytime. There is a little voice inside that is saying that we are being fed false info and there will be no merge, majenta buff and all.

Car54

Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 04:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Clue #2 from the CBS site:

Another castaway appears to have a changed attitude, but does he really?

Who are they talking about here?

Gina8642

Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 05:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As a guess Car....

Generally when folks talk about someone changing their attitude it has changed for the better. We have yet to see any bad attitudes from any of the Rotu males - that would make me presume they were talking about Sean or Rob; both of whom could be argued to have a "bad" attitude - Sean in particular.

Fruitbat

Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 05:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My guess is Rob. He will be all talk but it is probably about Sarah. He may want to seperate himself from her a bit. (not in bed mind you)

Moondance

Saturday, March 23, 2002 - 07:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
VidCaps from Epi 5

http://survivorfever.net/ep5-vidcaps.html

Episode 5 Promo - 3/22/02
Thanks to Bungler Tribes arrive for Immunity Challenge at beach
VO: "Everyone's getting island fever,"
Gabe: raps "Livin' out here on Survivor 4."
Sean: Does a human beatbox percussion
Zoe & Tammy: dancing

Seamonkey

Saturday, March 23, 2002 - 09:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Looks like the ubiquitous animatronic crab is dancing along with them :)

I have a feeling that the attitude change could also be for the worse.. maybe Gabe?

Rissa

Saturday, March 23, 2002 - 10:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have an incredible head cold going right now, so maybe I am missing something (not unlikely. :)) but I just reread the above in this thread (I will edit for brevity not to twist):

letshavefun3
Registered User
(3/16/02 8:03:19 pm)
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I have seen 15 minutes of the next episode ....the two tribes do not switch or anything like that, they are given a map and told to bring their belongings ....They do not know that they will meet the other tribe their. This is their new camp and JP tells them that they have officially merged as one.


Now the way I see it, this was posted (on the 16th) as a spoiler to this weeks (the 20th) episode, which means that the poster just outright lied, right? He obviously did not see the first 15 min. Am I missing something, did he mean next week?

Chance

Saturday, March 23, 2002 - 10:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
well I don't see how they could possibly merge this coming week...if that were the case then why would the preview say that the winning team gets to raid the others camp? What point would their be to raid others camp if immediately after (in the same episode) they merge???

Tksoard

Saturday, March 23, 2002 - 11:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe when the winning camp raids the losers camp, they have to stay and become all losers camp. Maybe?

Awareinva

Monday, March 25, 2002 - 08:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Was it just me or did the "rap" by Gabe in the promo make you think of Mike Boogie???!!! I have been saying I have a gut feeling that Gabe will be turning into a plotter and planner! This makes it seem more and more likely.

Joan

Monday, March 25, 2002 - 02:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hmm...everyone IS standing together in the pics.

Fruitbat

Monday, March 25, 2002 - 03:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Rob's picture is featured on Eye Mail. Sarah was last week. Could it really be this simple? Are they making a stupid mistake? Can anyone remember previous Eyemails?