Archive through March 21, 2002
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Archive through March 21, 2002
Hippyt | Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 09:21 pm     Lillie,honey,you need to lighten up a little! You were mad in another post because someone mentioned dyslexia. It's a free world,we can all have our opinions,Survivor is a TV SHOW!breath deep,Just a Tv Show... |
Lancecrossfire | Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 11:07 pm     Well, hopefully we got a hint of things when Hunter has been doing the interviews. He has said Sean was as lazy as it appears (he can only comment up to the point of the she he was booted). He said there was nothing brougbht up about race by anyone to anyone else--that he was surprised by it. So, there is some information to indicate what's been going on compared to what we've seen. I also realize it's only one side of the story--although Patricia indicated the same thing about the work effort from Sean. I don't see thaht being about having white, black, green or purple skin. It was a comment made about a person. Same comments were made about Sarah too in the beginning--then she picked up her level of effort a little. And it was shown thaht Sean stopped paddling before the challenge was over---maybe someone else did too--but as has been said by a few people, we didn't see it--they just showed one person. Just like they showed Sarah on the trip into the island. Just like Eddie from BB1, it's certainly possible to speak of race without being a racist. An ethnic joke doesn't make someone a racist and more than saying there are difference between 2 races. I hope we can keep to the issues without name calling of others. |
Squaredsc | Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 11:20 am     lillie, sorry you are so offended by sean, and yes he lives to fight another day 'cause he is still in the tribe. or didn't you notice that hunter was voted out. get a grip 'cause you are pi**ing me off. and once again i say a racist is a person who believes his race is superior. get it. |
Moondance | Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 11:21 am     Who is saying their race is superior Square... no one has said this but you sure do like bringing it up... drop it! |
Julieboo | Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 11:45 am     I don't want to pick on ya square, but you do seem to keep bringing up race when no one else is... |
Wink | Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 11:58 am     Well Rob is white and as far as I'm concerned he's just as big a pain in the *ss as Sean. I'm not seeing colour. I'm seeing attitude. |
Julieboo | Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 12:02 pm     Wink--that is a perfect way to put it. I'm seeing attitude (not color) too! |
Fanny | Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 12:06 pm     Couldn't agree more, Wink. Through the magic of MB editing, I'm seeing a couple of (colorfree) alpha asses. |
Squaredsc | Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 01:33 pm     yes i brought up race from the ep2, and lillie was the one who kept saying sean is a racist. so i had to respond. and i will drop it when i want to. consider it dropped. for now |
Julieboo | Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 01:50 pm     ...and Sean will help his tribe when he wants to! (ha ha) |
Lancecrossfire | Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 11:48 pm     First, I'll say that Rob is getting my wrath over in the thread for him. So don't even go down the path of skin color. I aslo happen to think Sarah was every bit as lazy as Sean and Rob--only for a different reason. She just wanted a vacation out of this. Let's recap on the lazy issue for Sean. We have had two people say he is really as lazy as he appears on the show--Patricia and Hunter. Neither one has mentioned race at all. Sean himself said tonight that he wants nothing to do with wor, and along with Rob wants to tell their tribe mates they are going for a hike, only to go around the bend and do nothing for the entire day. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it seems so far he's been fairly lazy, or the times he has worked hard has been followed by ccomplaining. Say all you want about editing--they can't put those words in his mouth. Sean seems to hvae no trouble if others do the work--and seem to indicate that it's perfectly fine to be searved by a female--one that can stay as long as she keeps it up, but if she stops, she's out of there. Next, multiple references to slavery??? Did anyone see everyone else sitting down, making Sean do all the work?? It sure looked like everyone was working hard to get things taken care of. Did I miss a new definition for slavery?? He doesn't like kissing butt, although has no problem if someone else does that to him. I smell a big double standard there. Next, I give Sean credit--he's in the game, when others have been booted out. So, he's doing something right as far as continuing in the game. I give him credit for saying how he feels. I don't always understand it, although he's in the game still. He is correct that he has nothing to prove to anyone--although while he may not realize it, he already has proven a couple things to a few people. |
Julieboo | Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 06:44 am     Great post Lance! |
Julieboo | Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 06:54 am     Square, what are your thoughts on Sean's speech to Gabe? |
Shakes | Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 07:57 am     I hope Sean never tries to talk to his basketball team about hardwork, respect, perseverance, and sportsmanship. The only person on the show who can't get past Sean's color is Sean. |
Meme9 | Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 09:07 am     LOL Shakes, my thoughts exactly!!! |
Fruitbat | Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 09:21 am     Good posts Lance and Shakes. |
Car54 | Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 04:30 pm     Posted by eliipsis at Surviiivor.com: From email, sounds legit. Quote Hey there insider - [xxxx] here. I post once in a blue moon in the forums, lurk all the time to pick up spoilers to try and improve my chances at the various online games, and don't contribute anything at all to the spoiling itself - I have no inside information, no time to analyze vidcaps or watch previews or read articles about the show. So, I'm pretty much a leech, and have been around and leeching since about the time GervaseX made the news during S1. Today, however, I learned that one of my [xxxx] is Sean's [xxxx], and that they grew up together in Harlem, I think, before Sean moved to L.A. I pumped her for info, and got very little, but I thought I'd share some of it with you. I don't want to post this stuff, but would rather let you determine if it has any value at all. First, the same thing you hear about just about every survivor - his [xxxx] says Sean lost a lot of weight while he was away. They saw each other in New York after Sean got back, and she said Sean had lost a tremendous amount. Also, she said that he was "ridiculously dark" from all his time in the sun. Apparently Sean is not usually very dark-skinned, but during his time in the Marquesas he turned very black. She told me that Sean teaches in South Central L.A. only to support himself as an actor, which is the reason he moved west in the first place. Apparently he's been in some soap operas out there, and has modeled for some print ads. He's also done a few things to increase his visibility, like going on the Dating Game some time back. That's his stated motivation for doing Survivor - not the money, but the visibility. Sean is being totally silent as to what happened, as he's supposed to be. No major purchases, no lifestyle change. He is getting calls now from people he hasn't seen or heard from in years, like kids from elementary school, and he's being stopped on the street and asked for autographs, of course. His [xxxx] says that the editing is painting a very different Sean from the she knows. She says Sean is anything but lazy, and he's not all that militant as he was portrayed in the conversation with Vecepia. He's supposedly a very nice, funny, hard-working guy, but he's being used to fill a character role in the show right now. I don't know if there's anything useful here, but I was excited to learn that I had a connection at all and wanted to contribute something, anything, to the cause. |
Fanny | Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 04:39 pm     Thanks, Car. Interesting. It continues to amaze me that people seem to think they are portrayed very differently from their genuine selves. Wow. I can sure see how Sean and his [xxxx] can state he's not all that militant. That damned editing! Hey! Maybe we aren't seeing realtv after all. Maybe it's all special effects and superb animation! |
Moondance | Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 04:48 pm     LOL Fanny! Yeah animation thats it! |
Squaredsc | Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 05:26 pm     julie, check out my twist and shout post to see my reaction to sean's speech. basically i said that his new york b-boy attitude wouldn't have intimidated me and i would have cursed him out up on side and down the other. but he does make great tv, and actually he reminded me of the kings of comedy comedian, cedric the entertainer when he said he was a grown a** man etc. in retrospect i thought the show was particularly hilarious(sp). car thanks for the info....could it be that in some of those interviews the interviewer could have steered the conversations??? just something to think about.  |
Car54 | Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 06:01 pm     Squaredsc...I agree, I bet if someone stood up to Sean and faced off with him he would be a total marshmallow. He is all talk. Of course the interviewers have an agenda...this is Survivor...it is all part of the product! |
Tksoard | Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 06:17 pm     Yes, and that script that they gave him to try to intimidate Gabe was real good. He read it really well!! I think he should get the job!!!!  |
Yuhuru | Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 06:27 pm     Maybe Sean is doing a BB2 Will. I felt that Will was acting the entire time, as if he spent his BB2 time as some huge audition. I will say this, I'm not at all offended by Sean's references to slavery. I've heard black folks joke about working hard being equivalent to slavery. However, the audience is usually someone else black so it doesn't come off so literally. I don't like Sean. Or shall I say I wouldn't want him on my team. I think that Survivor is harder than he thought. If exposure was his goal, he's got it. He's the most talked about player this season. I'm with Square, it's good TV. I laughed really hard last night. I wasn't laughing at what he (or Rob) were saying, but the stupidity and the nerve (and how he acts everything out like the heavy breathing when he was talking about Rotu working). Just think if you were Sean's mama or other family and friends, you'd have to be totally embarrassed by what you see. I think a lot of us take these folks way too seriously. It's a game, and these people are playing a game. Sean jokes about slavery because he has no earthly idea what slavery is like nor does he know what hard work is like. So what. He's likening himself to a slave. He's not comparing the white players to Massa(the master). Then maybe I'd almost be offended. I believe that only former slaves and slave masters should waste their energy being offended by a wanna be actor from Harlem who's making a total idiot of himself on National TV. Let's spend more time figuring out who we like and will root for for the long haul. I luv this show!!!! |
Lilliegirl | Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 06:40 pm     Hippyt, like you said this is a free world so I stated my opinion,to me its a game that is real not just a tv show.And Square what does Hunter have to do with it,he is gone so why bring him up and you pi**ed me off from the start of this show so you get over it and leave me alone. nice post Lance. |
Llkoolaid | Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 06:50 pm     You know as much as I think Sean and Rob deserve to go and will soon go, I think it is going to be pretty boring watching all those duddly do rights. Let's see how perfect Rotu is when things are not going all their way. We have to have someone to hate. Who do we remember the most from the previous survivor shows, the villians. I am torn between wanting them gone and wanting them to stay and entertain us. |
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