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Fruitbat

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 11:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wink....what makes you think that the first vote will not be a tie with Kathy and Vee voting for Neleh and the others creating a tie with either Kathy or Vee? Then there will be a memory test of some kind and Neleh will lose. I like that. You think Vee will vote for Kathy and put herself in a no win situation with Pap and Neleh? I don't see that happening.

I see Vee and Kathy as the final 2.

Dire consequences better *really* be dire or I will scour MB with my wire brush after I have bloodied Nelehs turtle.


<< still thinks pole is boring >>

Seamonkey

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 11:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
So, How is it that WE know who is lazy but doubt what people who were there 24/7 say?

Why do we have to knock people down?

Why do we hate someone who smiles when they aren't voted out? Are they supposed to not react?

I suppose I should read the new posts to this thread since last night, but I was just depressed at that point.

Vee, Neleh, Kathy, Paschal.. is there REALLY anything seriously bad about one of these people? Do we just ASSUME smugness, laziness, racism, etc???

Why is one person who votes Sean out racist, but another not?

Would you want to be judged on superficial impressions?

Oh, well.. just letting off steam here. MOST of the actual participants seem to "get it". It was an experience not a death match and for the most part they made friends.

Tntitanfan

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 11:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Could the "dire consequences" be that BOTH of the tied players go? That would be dire indeed! But knowing our producer, each will probably get a slap on the wrist with a wet noodle!!

Wink

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 11:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fruitbat I was only suggesting a scenario that could fit with the Survivornewsnet spoiler that Car mentioned which puts Neleh/Vee in the final with a Vee win. That post is in this thread at 4:45 am and Car left a link to the spoiler.

Joan

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 11:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
IMO the "betrayal" refers to the jury members feeling betrayed by someone in the final 2, not necessarily a finalist betraying another finalist.

Tksoard

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 12:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thing "dire consquences" could be just 2 words that MB threw into the drama to get everyone attention, and there won't even be a tie.

Seamonkey

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 12:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Car, as usual, thanks for the links, tho they do sort of skip over how and why Kathy and Paschal are ousted..

Guess I should go webcrawling to see if I should stick to my current deadpool position, which is.. basically a guess.

Wink

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 12:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Perhaps a mod could put *SPOILER ALERT* or some such on the title of this thread. There may be some here who don't want to know about this "spoiler".

Seamonkey

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 12:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well I am definitely curious about "dire consequences".. it hardly makes sense to describe a tiebreaker mechanism with that phrase.

But so many of the teaser hrases have turned out to be pure hype.

Car54

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 12:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It is a prediction!!!! All the boards have predictions. Didn't we have this discussion with all the Acme babies already?

Thanks Egbok and Yuhuru, today my brain feels like cold wet spaghetti.

There are 4 people left...two of em are gonna be the final 2. Kathy has a 1 in 4 chance and Survivor News thinks she doesn't make it.

Big whoop. :) Wake me if any more spoilers happen.

I'm going to go iron now. My curtains are dry.

Fruitbat

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 12:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Seamonkey. I don't think any of us are taking this seriously. It is the nature of Reality TV to pick your favorites and defend them and "attack" the others. It is all in the game. I am sure we would like all of these people.

Wink

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 12:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Car I love how your eyes twinkle when you reprimand.

Dipo

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 02:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
tntitanfan - I think you have stumbled onto it, that would make the one spoiler about a man and a woman finalist work for me. The way I see it is that Vee and Kathy agreed to vote off Neleh (they see that Pappy is pretty weak and figure they can take him out easily). Of course N/P will vote Vee off, so we will have a tie - Neleh and Vee, who both get kicked off, what a surprise that would be. It would not be anything new to see a tie breaker where they answer questions until one person loses. They've done that before, several times.

Pamy

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 02:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I still think the way they will break a tie is to let the jury vote on the tiebreaker, taht would be a 'dire' thing, since all past emotions would come into play

Dipo

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 02:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, pamy, good one!!! Now I don't know what to do!!! I thought I had worked out how I was going to vote on deadpool,no more. I will need to ponder who the jury would vote off out of a tie now!!!!!

Pamy

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 02:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Considering Kathy stayed true to her old team by voting off Sean instead of P/N I think the jury will vote off Vee since she was part of the other team.

C1mag

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 03:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Don't you think we might be thinking too hard and it basically comes down to Kathy ( like Kelly in season one) who has to break the tie and she will feel that her choice will determine her fate with the voters?

She has said all the time that voting for her is a hard choice. Will her foe's feel betrayed if she votes out one of them? What consequence would it have on her fate if she chose someone that the other's didn't feel "deserved to be there?" Would one of the 3 feel betrayed as a friend etc... ?

In my stupid sceanario I think Kathy wins the next IC and she ends up having to decide who goes. Who she picks is anyone's guess. I'd say she sum's it up with a paschal boot by saying he wouldn't feel betrayed, he's tired and he would understand she is playing for herself.

Then Vee wins final immunity ( The strange twist in fate?) and because of Neleh and P popping on Sean she takes Kathy to the finals and Kathy wins.

I've often wondered why many of the booted, up until Sean and Maybe Zoe, have mentioned that they didn't like the way Vee played. Sounds to me like they had to analyze her game so this is my reasons why I think she made it too the finals and I just don't think she would be allowed so she would have to win an Immunity to get there. So this is my final episode theory.

Pay little attention because I had the stupid theory that Kathy was going this week all drawn out. Dang I've loved this particular Survivor. The people were more interesting than the actual game. Too be honest, up until the last episode I didn't care who won ( well ok I've never liked the old man much) but now I'd be a little pissed if Neleh won it. Just my thoughts.

Catfat

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 03:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I might have double posted this, but I can't find where my other message went. If so, I apologize.
My question is, how did Sean get so far in the game? Most of the strongest, best players (such as Hunter) were dispatched rather quickly. Maybe no one perceived Sean as a threat and they saved him til the end because they knew they could boot him. And they did. I was so totally offended to see him lying on the ground at Rotu, letting (I think) Tammy carry his food to him. She should have thrown the plate at his head. He's a typical lazy male chauvinist pig. I am glad he's gone.
Cat

Weinermr

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 04:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Catfat -

Is he typical of lazy people?
Is he typical of males?
Is he typical of chauvinists?
Is he typical of pigs?
Are you saying typical males are lazy, or are typical lazy people males?
Are you saying typical chauvinists are lazy, or are typical lazy people chauvinists?
Are you saying typical pigs are lazy, or are typical lazy people pigs?
Or are typical lazy people males and pigs?
Or are typical lazy people males and chauvinists?
Or are typical lazy people pigs and chauvinists?
Or are typical males lazy and chauvinists?
Or are typical males lazy and pigs?
Or are typical males chauvinists and pigs?
Or are typical chauvinists lazy and male?
Or are typical chauvinists lazy and pigs?
Or are typical chauvinists male and pigs?
Or are typical pigs lazy and male?
Or are typical pigs lazy and chauvinist?
Or are typical pigs male and chauvinist?
Or is a typical lazy person a male chauvinist pig?
Or is a typical male a lazy chauvinist pig?
Or is a typical chauvinist a lazy male pig?
Or is a typical pig a lazy male chauvinist?

Or are you saying of the people in the world who happen to be lazy, male, chauvinists, and pigs, Sean is typical?

What exactly are you saying?

Or perhaps, just perhaps, Sean is a unique human being that none of have seen enough to judge (as if it's up to us to judge at all) in terms of what kind of person he is?

Car54

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 04:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
pic Thank you Weiner!!!


Why do we care if any of them are lazy? WE didn't have to work any harder to eat or have shelter during the show. The show is not called "WORK ETHIC".
The people who were called the "laziest" provided the most entertainment IMO. Rob and Sean gave us a ton to talk about.
If you can last til F5 and be lazy then good for you!! You somehow figured out a new slant on the game.
Frankly I would rather see a lazy interesting person win than a boring hard worker. JMHO

With regard to the male chauv.stuff, both Sean and Rob have admitted they talked a lot of trash to the camera and both have apologized if they offended any one or made any mistakes. If you read any of Sean's interviews and hear how he speaks about his mom, I don't think any of his statements were very serious...sounds like his mom would slap him up side the head if they were.

Catfat

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 04:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Weiner-
I can't even begin to decipher what you are saying, and don't care to. The phrase "male chauvinist pig" is from the women's movement in the seventies and was applied to all men who, among other things, expected women to wait on them hand and foot. Period. That is what I saw Sean doing.
Cat--
a veteran of the equality wars not yet won

Weinermr

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 05:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Catfat -

I know what the phrase male chauvinist pig means.

I also think it's unfortunate that you don't care to understand the meaning of my post.

I also would like you to know that I see all people as equals, and I am not at war with anyone.

Fruitbat

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 06:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ohhhhhh good one Weiner.

There are no spoilers or boards that hold the notion or opinion that Kathy wins this. That is a strong statment that I am inclined to igore and blissfully sit hoping beyond all hope that she wins. If Sean cannot take the money, Kathy is the only one I care to root for.

Car54

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 07:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I watched the show again tonight, and at TC, I noticed a lot of glances between Kathy and Neleh.

While Sean was ranting, Neleh was about to jump in and Kathy told her to "let it go"....and they also exchanged glances on his way out.

Hmmm.......

I want Kathy to win, but I am preparing myself for anything.

Fruitbat

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 07:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Interesting. I never tape but a lot can be learned I see.