Anybody Wanna Get Spoiled???************SPOILER 4/18**********
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Seamonkey | Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 10:50 pm     Paschal voted John. Everyone did except John, Robert and Tammy. |
Car54 | Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 11:02 pm     I am not really fond of any of them but I am so proud of the "weak ones"...for the first time in Survivor, they saw what the other side was doing, and they DID something while they still have a chance! No one has ever done that. How many tribes have we sat and screamed at after the merge..who just sat there and missed opportunities, and got Pagonged. Jeff is right, this is historic! I don't see it as a vote against John personally at all (maybe from Sean), but rather a vote against the arrogance of the "big 4". (T,J,R and maybe Zoe). In a way,it was SMART but very risky of Zoe to vote the way she did... to the new dominant alliance, she can deny she was ever part of the big 4, but that she was coincedentally voting the same way! She is pretty arrogant in the challenges...lots of laughing and taunting, so she needs to tone that down to back it up. Clearly Paschel and Neleh value humility, teamwork, etc. They will get it out of Zoe before they get it out of Sean. Zoe probably bought herself at least F4, probably better with her vote tonight, and she saved herself. If she had stayed, she would have been F4, but the N/P/K/S/V didnt NEED her vote... she would have been out in a couple of shows. Now if she can prove herself more trustworthy than Sean and Vee, she is on the show for at least 3 or 4 more episodes...and if she is careful, she could do better. Risky but smart. Paschel and Neleh are in the drivers seat now...IF Zoe is solid (big IF) then they can afford to lose Sean, who Paschel calls "an embarrassment". If I were them, I would probably take out Tammy and Robert next just to be safe (bet Tammy- she won immunity), THEN I would take care of Sean. I can see about 5 different scenarios, but you know, I just really don't care which way they go..I am just so happy that they seized the opportunity, crossed tribal and alliance lines and they SAVED themselves. Good work guys! |
Mygetaway | Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 11:13 pm     Zoe may pull a Teresa and never tell ANYONE her vote. They didn't show the last vote. AS far as they know, it could have been for Sean. It wouldn't have made a difference. I'm sure Tammy and Robert figured out that Kathy got Neleh and Pappy to vote her way. Then it all depends on who gets immunity next. Zoe's vote may not be revealed for awhile, or we may see it revealed right away next week... who knows..LOL |
Spear | Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 11:58 pm     Shouldn't it be easy to figure out that the vote was 6-3? They seem to arrange the order the votes are revealed to prolong the suspense as much as possible. If it were 5-4, it would have gotten to 4-4 before the final vote was revealed. (By the way, didn't Jeff screw up last week? I think he didn't stop after it was already Rob-5, John-2, and Zoe-1.) |
Car54 | Friday, April 19, 2002 - 02:51 am     Nah, Kathy is gonna dog her. Kathy is relentless. |
Kizz | Friday, April 19, 2002 - 04:55 am     Mygetaway, in the full exit speech, John made reference to the Nebraska Cornhuskers...I think thats Big Red (and then he cried like a LITTLE GIRL) |
Tntitanfan | Friday, April 19, 2002 - 05:53 am     Gosh - I have lived my whole life in the south and never heard of a chicken and waffle restaurant! I have heard of chicken and waffle suppers - like for church fundraisers in my grandmother's day - but not lately! Then it was creamed chicken over un-sweet waffles, much as I make creamed chicken over cornbread now - |
Webkitty | Friday, April 19, 2002 - 06:38 am     I think "The Waffle House" (its like a Denny's) which is all over the South is what is being refered to as a ~chicken and waffle house~ ? |
Enbwife | Friday, April 19, 2002 - 07:09 am     I just read this whole thread! I loved last night’s episode. The 5 were so smart to get together at the last second and save themselves rather than be sitting ducks! When they did the immunity challenge, Neil & I were saying how stupid it was because it was all about popularity and Sean had no chance of winning... but after, we realized it was a head-screw to show them how they were gonna be pegged off and in what order... Great!!! That was soooo good! Just when it was getting boring and predictable… the producers really know what they’re doing with this show I tell ya!!! Perhaps Sean or Vi could win this thing and we would have the first African-American Survivor… or maybe Cathy will win. I think it’ll be a woman personally. |
Awareinva | Friday, April 19, 2002 - 07:12 am     It is a pretty common combination to have your places that serve breakfast all day and also specialize in chicken.... Aunt Sarah's comes to mind. The "Waffle House" is another (although they make the best hamburgers!). I wonder what it is about us Southerners that makes us want breakfast as an option any time of the day?? LOL John and Sean probably had some conversation about it during their heart-to-hearts about being minorities. |
Madelane | Friday, April 19, 2002 - 07:59 am     Hey I don't know much, but I know about two topics that have come up... There are several "Chicken and Waffles" restaurants in Atlanta. They are in fact named Chicken and Waffles, such as "Sean's Chicken and Waffles." It's a soul food thang. Don't know the roots of it but it's definitely a phenomenon. The police believe Robert Blake pulled the trigger. They arrested the bodyguard for conspiracy but their theory of the case is that Blake committed the actual murder of his wife. This will be all you hear about for a while, folks. It's going to be as much like OJ as it can be. Stay tuned to CNN! John crying made my night. |
Seamonkey | Friday, April 19, 2002 - 09:19 am     We have IHOP in the West.. Norm's, Denny's.. plenty of places to get breakfast. When I was in Atlanta in the eighties they talked about all the Waffle Houses and some of the people I was working with, who lived there, said it was a weekend ritual to go there. But Sean's from NY and lives in California. Yeah CNN is hot on the Robert Blake thing.. Larry King pre-empted whatever he had planned and the next show actually spend lots of time tsk tsking about media overkill.. but of course the same people were doing the tsking and overkilling already. sigh. |
Kitty | Friday, April 19, 2002 - 09:42 am     Regarding the reading of votes at TC and knowing how many votes each person got.... I thought one of the castmembers from S3 mentioned in an interview that they are shown all the votes afterwards and know who got how many before they leave TC.... it just isn't shown on tv. Does anyone else remember this? |
Honey51 | Friday, April 19, 2002 - 12:05 pm     Does anyone know the order of elimination for the IM challengs? I didn't tape it, and I'm hoping someone can recap for me. Thanks |
Madelane | Friday, April 19, 2002 - 12:40 pm     To clear up these bizarre topics... Seamonkey, Chicken and Waffle places are nothing like IHOP or Denny's. They are relatively nice restaurants which most people go to for dinner or late night after clubbing. They are often in fact clubs too, with jazz or hip-hop. Since Sean is very into, I don't know how to put it, geez, black culture stuff, he would know chicken and waffle places. It's kind of a combination upscale/ghetto concoction. As to Larry King - he knew the night before the arrest was coming down, or at least they expected to do it, I work there and I knew the night before. So he had pretty much planned on the show and had all the guests waiting, etc. We beat Fox by 20 minutes and we got his lawyer on the phone which no one else did. No such thing as overkill! :-) |
Grooch | Friday, April 19, 2002 - 01:02 pm     The history of the Chicken and Waffle was driving me crazy because I remember watching a cooking show where they explained the history of it, but I couldn't remember the details. So I went and looked it up and this is what I found. It's from a restaurant review in Dallas: <<Sandora Cooper brought the idea for the combination of chicken and waffles from her home in New York's Harlem neighborhood. When the neighborhood was at its most vibrant from the 1930s to the 1950s, celebrities like Sugar Ray Robinson and Count Basie owned restaurants in the area. Around the corner from Cooper's house was the famous Well's Restaurant. When the shows and parties let out of the Cotton Club, the Savoy, and the Apollo, the crowds would fill the uptown eateries. Well's restaurant was one of the most popular. Around 1938, the restaurant invented the chicken and waffle plate for folks who couldn't decide if they wanted breakfast or dinner. Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles turned up in Hollywood with the same platter around 1975. While the combination may be the same, every cook has their own special way to prepare the chicken. >> |
Seamonkey | Friday, April 19, 2002 - 01:10 pm     aha.. well good for Larry.. he often does get the interviews that others don't. I DID indeed notice that Larry (or you guys ) had gotten the attorney, definitely a coup. But, overkill.. good grief yes.. One channel had Gloria Allred, Jerry Spence and Johnnie Cochran all on phone lines at once. At least the LA channels went back to regular programming earlier and just covered the press conference but didn't hang around to overanalyze, thankfully. That must be an interesting place to work! Cynic that I am, hearing that the media got advance heads up.. and the timing of the whole thing makes me suspect the timing (not the arrest) is somewhat of a Bernard Parks last ditch grandstand play to somehow retain his position. OK, I'm learning every day.. chicken and waffles.. but certainly waffles are awfully good late at night. And having decent late night food is also a Good Thing. Anyway your explanation makes Sean's statement more clear too. |
Seamonkey | Friday, April 19, 2002 - 01:13 pm     Thanks Grooch, that added alot.. |
Kizz | Friday, April 19, 2002 - 04:30 pm     Seriously Grooch, you are always so thorough...thanks again!! |
Urgrace | Friday, April 19, 2002 - 04:49 pm     The order of 'chopping' for IM is in the superspoiling Tammy thread. |
Grooch | Friday, April 19, 2002 - 04:59 pm     No problem guys. It's one of those stories that are really interesting and a little bit of history. But my memory is so bad, that I was driving myself crazy with racking my brain trying to remember what the story was. I just had to go and look it up. I just wish I could remember what cooking show it was on. I'm leaning towards "Cooking Live" on the food network with Sarah SomethingOrAnother. |
Pamy | Friday, April 19, 2002 - 08:12 pm     Chicken and waffles are not as bad as the donut/chinese food/video rental 'restaurants' we have in southern california!!!!!!
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Seamonkey | Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 12:50 pm     Pamy.. wow.. never saw one of those, but it doesn't surprise me And I'm in SoCal. Actually Chicken and waffles sounds great about now. |
Llkoolaid | Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 02:21 pm     Honey, I think the order of get off in the immunity challenge was Sean,Vee, Kathy,John,Paschal,Neleh,Zoe ,Robert. Sean hit John twice and I think Robert gave him the final blow. John and Paschal were both put out on the same question. Robert put John out but John still had a hit and took out Paschal. I might have it a little mixed up but I think that is basically it. |
Urgrace | Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 09:20 pm     Honey, Kool almost had it right. Zoe went before Neleh. This is the order they were eliminated: Sean Vee Kathy John Paschal Zoe Neleh Robert Tammy won |
Llkoolaid | Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 11:50 am     Thanks Urgrace, I wasn't sure about Neleh and Zoe and was too lazy to rewatch the tape. |
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