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Car54

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 04:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Vee is on The Early Show-
First segment she is alone being interviewed with
Tom Bergeron outside.

Final Votes:
John, Robert, Tammy,Sean -Vee
Paschel, Zoe, Kathy- Neleh

Gail

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 04:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Good for Kathy!!

Car54

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 04:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Final 4-
Talk about Neleh telling Kathy to check her chest...it was totally innocent.
Kathy talks about decompressing after her boot...she saw the counselor on site. How the ending helped her work through her father's death.
Neleh talking about Vee and Kathy being arrogant during tattooing. (dang, he didn't ask about the turtle tattoo!)
Paschel tells that he knew he and Neleh would be together BEFORE the show started.

Kathy has lost her voice...very scratchy!

Neleh and Vee both VERY good on camera, very poised, funny. Neleh is very composed for a 21 year old!

Car54

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 05:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
MB and Jeff give Vee the check. Talk about how great she was on the show.

Talk about S5- they are leaving immediately for Thailand.... great island... longest snakes in the world...
The game has a big change... MAJOR TWIST on how the show begins that will impact the entire game.

All 16 Survivors are coming on next plus Vee, Rich, Tina, Ethan.

Car54

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 05:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Vee excited to be on with Rich...He picked her to win way back...She says "he is my man!"

Rich says Sean helped her win! Neleh had the sweet/vs/strategic- she could not win


Tina and Ethan not too much to say... Ethan ..not sure he could have handled the lying..

Vee watched every DVD... she tried to boot anyone who might win...she wanted the underdogs to win.

Oh, when she said "Hunter is a real leader" at TC to make him a target!!! She engineered his boot!! WOW!

Tina-Vee made me appreciate Colby more- it will never be like S2 again... people are wise to the game...
Ethan had it the hardest...Africa- the heat,the dust, the isolation.

Advice to Vee-
Rich- keep it real, love life
Tina- ??? have fun, stay true to yourself, spread the word??
Ethan-have fun, take the opportunities

Rich sat by Vee's mom...she was hysterical... screaming, trying to get onstage.

Car54

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 05:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry, I have to get to work... maybe someone on the west coast can finish!!!

Webkitty

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 07:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I missed the first hour, but perked up when Vee was talking about how she got Hunter "puffed up" about his leadership abilities on purpose, to see exactly where he was coming from.
Very interesting.........she alluded to doing this throughout, and was obviously playing the game harder with more strategy than MB showed us.

Any disapointments or complaints I have about this season I blame completely on him and his editing.

How are we supposed to spoil or predict anything when he hides the winner so deeply?

I could be happier with Vee winning if he had given me SOMETHING other than her rolling her eyes and saying there was just too much drama.
If she really played the game this hard then she deserved better editing.

Now if I want to know the full story of Vee, I'll have to make the effort to track down all appearances by her on every show to gleen what I can about what really went on.
MB, don't you know I'm lazy that way you little devil! LOL

Seamonkey

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 07:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I must have missed the first set with Vee alone..
I woke up at 7:20 and they had "the four" on while I was brushing my teeth and such, but had a small TV going. I agree with Car.. Neleh, especially looked bright and poised.. Vee looked good but a bit tired (and who wouldn't be after winning a mill??) Kathy a bit hoarse, looks good but less of a "shock" than last night. Paschal looked ok but must have been sitting on a short stump?

Neleh already knows that the stock "bit" for her is going to be "the mint".. handled it graciously. Of course Jane had to go thru the "did you purposely distract Kathy on the logs"..


They did clarify, or let Neleh explain why she thought K/V were a bit arrogant the last day.. she said it was just that they had the pact to go all the way and they said things all day as if they would be the two back at camp that night (that Neleh would definitely be gone).

(My observation of this: fatal error? or part of Vee's strategy.. Vee was in this pact but she really wanted to be in F2 with Neleh, not Kathy.. the comments steeled Neleh to keep "in the game".. and backfired on Kathy in the end.. just one factor but sometimes that is all it takes)

Another Jane thing... to imply that Paschal would be "in trouble" with his wife and daughters over his bond with Neleh. He didn't bite...

Seamonkey

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 07:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
(I also caught part of Vee's audition tape when I first tuned in)

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OK.. back from commercial..

J: VT won a car and a place in history..

MB and JP are there with a small real check.. Mark signs it congrats to Vee.. Jeff says "way to go.. woohooing.. Vee says got to keep this safe, baby (probably to Leander, off camera)

Mark thought Vee was awesome..

Vee asked about Sean asking for rent money, etc. Vee says unfortunately I can't due to contractual stuff (hmm how did Tina manage, then?)

Vee says Sean will be a lifelong friend, like a brother.

(The Survivor 5 discussion.. Game starts in a "whole new way".. JP says HUGE change.. I can just hear Fruitbat's gears rumbling now).

Talk about the changes in immunity and tie breaker.. Jeff points out that it could have gone differently with the tiebreak.. but didn't..

Vee hugs MB again (all are bundled up against the cold out there)

commercial

Seamonkey

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 08:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Clip of John, Rob, Sean.. and Vee saying "too much DRAMA"

Tom and Jane..talk about Vee, too much drama, but last night.. Tom mentions "I lied but then talked to god and asked for forgiveness". They laugh.

(I used to think it was only Catholics who got away with this.. being ok to sin but then confess and be absolved :) ) (just filling in.. they are doing news now with Julie.)

Seamonkey

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 08:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
(oh and replying to a comment up thread.. seems like this is the second time they've edited the actual strategy.. like with Tina and Colby.. and Tina and Colby were smart enough to wait until they were safely in F2 before they celebrated).

Tom Bergeron did say that this season re-interested him in Survivor.. (and he's not alone)

Weather guy on with two DJ's shilling for how wonderful Rosie was, etc..

Seamonkey

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 08:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jane with Survivor Millionaire's club.. Vee, Ethan, Tina, Rich.. (Vee must have the short stump this time)

commercial

back..

Vee gushes about "elite group", Richard being "her man".. then Rich talks.

Tina and Ethan had Paschal.

What did Neleh do wrong. Rich says she had Sean.. going at her about being fake, playing sweet.. Rich says probably Neleh really is sweet but Sean did her in.

They talk about Paschal and the Rock.. how bad that was.. Ethan says lying is one way to play the game.

Vee watched the DVDs wanted the underdog to win.

Patricia should have been in there, but the "mama thing" got on Vee's nerves.. and now talking about how she puffed up Hunter on purpose..

Learned most from Rich.. you could do anything in the game you wanted to.

Did Tina see herself in Vee.. NOT AT ALL..

Toughest.. they all agree Ethan.. dustbowl, etc.

Easiest.. Vee's group? Ethan thinks first one maybe.. Rich says some similarities.. no whining but..

Advice

R keep it real
love life
T have so much fun you can't stand yourself (and spread the word)

Ethan.. just enjoy. If there's something you want to do, now you probably can do it.

Rich talking about Vee's mom.. when Vee won.. her mom was up and active, all over Rich, dancing.. "my baby", etc.. (why don't they SHOW these relatives??? I'd WAY rather see Vee's mom than Rosie)

Vee got very little sleep.. Leander kept talking, etc. Again, Vee gestures to Leander, who isn't shown..

If all 4 of them on island.. they joke..

commercial

Seamonkey

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 08:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Back.. here ARE the survivors.. all 16..Peter.., Patricia, Hunter (all are mic'd, Sarah, Gabe, Gina(Sarah and Gina look good), Rob with neat hat, john, Zoe in leather jacked, Tammy, Robert, chewing gum, Sean, P, K, N, V

Who was up latest.. John says he was 35.5 min.

Tom says Tammy's speech was the most vindictive.. some one Meows!!.. then they play the clip...

Tammy has no regrets about what she said.. just a statement..

Tom says John was the overacting award deciding who to vote.. J says he adores both of them.. all laugh.. John had an answer in his head, Vee gave him his answer. Zoe is leaning on John)

Sean.. how many of these relationships will last.. Sean says 15 incredible people, it will last..

Jane still feeling love with Hunter.. Sean says uhhhhhhhhh...

General.. totall has lost his voice now.. loving live..

Jane Neleh, has to know when she told Kathy to check her blouse.. (didn't they ask this already today)

Jane tells Kathy she looks hot.. Jane thought Kathy was a goner at first. KIathy says she had an epiphany, shut up, stopped complaining.. Kathy is hoarse too :)

Paschal.. says he felt great once he got the IV fluids.. someone jokes about Rob stressing "fluids" too (bar type).. they also joke.. the fire on the set is blowing smoke at them.. as they went to break someone said, "kathy put some sand on that fire"..

(while commercial is on, my observation.. the actual survivors have so many little in jokes.. too bad we don't hear more from them.. the interviewers stick to certain stock questions.. )

And watching Zoe and John (who are sitting in Boot order, but look cozy..) I'd have to guess Zoe for the third tattoo.. except.. hard to believe she'd be shy about it?? so maybe not.

Seamonkey

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 08:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hunter, you called all these guys knuckleheads have you told them.. Hunter's voice is also GONE.. AGAIN Jane asks Gina about a love connection and AGAIN Gina says no

Patricia getting some face time..

Rob asked.. has this changed your life, he's about the same guy.. probably pretty scary for alot of people..

Tom says Rob's strategy like Vee's except Vee asked Lord for forgiveness and Sean didn't give a rat's *ss.. They ask Sarah about Playboy, they ask Gabe about rapping.. he says that's a big negative..

Peter.. first out.. he says he wouldn't change the talk about body openings.. says school kids email him and they got it, even if the survivors didn't.. his teeth are still unnaturally white :)

Zoe.. you were as deceptive as Vee but you got the heat fo it.. Tammy and Zoe say they made up..
but Zoe is leaning on John totally.

What will Vee do.. so many things.. are in process of building a house.. so this is helpful,, she did say first get a financial planner and then talked about tithing (I'm sure Neleh will be doing that too, being a Mormon)

Jane asks Sean about his rent... he says all he wants is $5000.

Oh My Heck tshirts coming soon.. very common phrase..
This is going so fast in this segment.. can't catch it all.. I do think Gabe ditched the teddybear at least.

So many recycled questions ..

Going to resume normal lives.. Someone says normal life is over.. Sean says with exception of Vee we are the brokest celebrities in America.

Ethan asks Vee if she'd have taken Kathy with her if she'd have won immunity.. she claims she would have kept kathy so she was happy that neleh jumped on the opportunity.

Paschal says he wasn't bitter about the purple rock..

Rich says kathy should have made a deal with Sean, she would have won.. Kathy talks about not getting the right answer from Sean, etc.. Sean not commenting.. obviously this is a sore point for him..

JULIE asks the best question with no time.. asks which ones want to get into "opportunities.. they do start to answer.. John puts hand up.. then Zoe does John wants a talk show.. and it is over..

They would all do it again.

Seamonkey

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 08:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, and no one asked.. but I'd watch it again too.. and plan to be watching SV!!

Julieboo

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 09:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Seamnonkey--okay, I am confused. Who is Julie that asks the best questions with no time?

Neko

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 09:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Many Sea meant Jane?
Though, I doubt it.enko

Julieboo

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 09:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought that too, but I doubt it too. Sea, where are you????

Webkitty

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 09:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought she meant Julie Chen, who was there.

Karuuna

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 09:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Julie Chen was part of the final interview. :)

Webkitty

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 09:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Karuuna

Julieboo

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 09:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, thanks Webby & Kar. Makes sense now.

Julieboo

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 09:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Why was she there?

Webkitty

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 09:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
No problem, Julie

Webkitty

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 09:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
She is always there, she does the news for the Early Show.......

Car54

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 10:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Karuuna and Webkitty are right, Julie asked them if they wanted to take advantage of any of the opportunities...it was really funny...John's hand shot up, and there was a lot of wiggling ....like somehow they were embarrassed to admit it..Sean staring right into the camera but not raising his hand...

Robert says he is retired for the second time, oh and don't know if anyone else told this- they asked Sarah about Playboy..she says it is under negotiation...Tom says she would not be showing much more than she showed on the island.

Tom was a really good interviewer!!!

Squaredsc

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 10:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
thanks sea and web and car, you all are the best with the interview stuff. interesting about the hunter thing. can't wait till its on dvd, have to get this one.

Seamonkey

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 11:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I did mean JULIE CHEN.. she was out there at the last..

She's always there but not often sitting in on any Survivor stuff.. lately she's been doing more interviews rather than just reading news off at her own desk.

John's hand did shoot up, Car.. that was too funny, then Zoe's. They zoomed in on Tammy but as she has said she already has a career she loves so she was stoic. Sean has said he wants to keep teaching and for the sake of his students, I hope he does. Having a young black male teacher in South Central.. (and a POX on CBS for never realizing that Sean lives in California not NY and teaches in South Central LA, not Harlem) that has to be GOLD for that school and those students. Sean is multi-talented and obviously will have choices. And I'm sure he can work some of those in with his teaching.

Sorry, I was watching court tv, reading the paper, then a book, eating some heated up pizza, and then had the cat sleeping on my lap for a time, so wasn't scoping TVCH for a time..

Car54

Monday, May 20, 2002 - 11:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sean is all over the Web on the Visa ads..wonder if he gets paid for them?

Seamonkey

Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 09:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I wondered about that.. Tammy was on a bunch of them as well.

So.. did anyone catch Vee on Letterman?? I would have made myself do it but Ted Koppel is finally doing his five night series on gays and lesbians: is it a choice? (sigh) and that was way more relevant for me to watch.

But just wondered if he actually had Vee on the show and what they said.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 09:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't believe we all thought Sean lived in NY!

I remember hearing that they have to do some mandatory product promotion as part of their contract. This may be it.

Webkitty

Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 10:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sea, I had the channel set to Letterman, the show started, and the next thing I knew it was over (fell asleep) ~I hate when that happens~

OK, so Sean is FROM New York, but lives in Cal.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 10:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yup. Sean is a teacher in South Central Los Angeles.. He came out to California to get into show biz but said on Rosie that he decided to substitute teach instead of the usual menial server type positions typical of those wanting to get into entertainment..

And he loves the teaching!!

South Central is one tough area, so he still gets props for teaching there.

Bat.. probably it was the many times he mentioned being from Harlem that made many think he still lived there.. and of course having it announced on the finale show that he was a teacher in HARLEM.. he quickly corrected them, but..

Rosie is on now and will have the final four on.

She mentioned that all during rehearsals she told all of the survivors that CBS was so cheap she couldn't talk them into a good prize so they shouldn't be disappointed, etc.. so when the prize was the Saturn Vues.. they were ALL totally surprised!!

Seamonkey

Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 10:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok.. heeere they come.

Neleh, Kathy and Paschal.. all lookin' good.

Neleh hugs Rosie, Kkathy hugs rosie, Pachal kisses Rosie smack on the lips!!

Kathy brought Rosie some Taro root with no seasoning.

Neleh in some interesting shoes, msBat!! (platform with lots of straps, short capris and "interesting" shirt too.. hard to describe it.. hair straighter than the other night.

28 pounds lost by Neleh.. she normally is 105 but got up to 124 with protein shakes and stuff before she went and was 96 when she got off. Kathy and Paschal lost more but in proportion.

Kathy says the water was so bad they were all dehydrated..

Rosie asks if she faked them out with the car.. shows the clip.. where she first told them they won Survivor DVDs.. then the car.

She says Paschal said "you tricked us! He agrees.

How has life changed for you?

Neleh: happy to do this at her age.. appreciate all the little things.. hot water, etc..

Kathy: things are simplified.. she started with tough exterior, pounded, all wrong.. realized later that when she showed her vulnerability they gravitated to her, and that was from the heart.. She says talking to the producers is like therapy. (I think she meant post boot)

Doesn't let P talk :)

Vecepia enters.. lookin' good.. takes first chair..

Vee says winning, she was totally surprised.. sayd she and Neleh had talked about it a lot beforehand.. they kept wondering who would win and they really didn't know.. they figured they knew Paschal would for Neleh and Sean for Vee but really couldn't decide beyond that.. they both thought it would be close.

(Vee looks wonderful today, just more rested and vibrant!! Has her voice back)

(showing clip of the winner ..when Vee hit the ground. Rosie says she was backstage then and hadn't seen that clip yet but said there was panic backstage "she's on the ground!!")

Vee says the first thing when she saw her name was to think "they spelled it correctly", then her eyes rolled and she rolled backwards and then blacked out.. came to with Neleh saying "Vee, get up!" .. so she actually did black out briefly.

Now Rosie asks Paschal about differences since the experience. He talks about being the oldest one out there, coming, face to face with who he was.. not proud of some things.. took wife and kids for granted now tries to hug wife, tell her he loves her daily. (so that explains why he was so affected when his wife came out to the island)

Vee.. says Mark Burnett tries to get a diverse group.. God didn't make a bunch of robots..

Vee. says she told all of the others that the true friendships will develop outside the game because some had masks on..

Rosie says her daughter is crazy about Vee now.. won't stop talking about her!

Rosie so happy for all of them.. congratulations..

No cruise :( but I'm glad they got some time..