My observation of Paschal (Super spoiler)
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Twiggyish

Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 06:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
He seems to be losing a lot of weight. He looks awful. Could his strength be draining?
Clothing:
He was wearing the buff around his neck with a black t-shirt.

I noticed as the only male, he isn't appearing to take the lead (alpha male). In fact, Kathy seems to be filling in that role.

Any other observations, please post.

Fruitbat

Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 06:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I noticed his passivity as well. Everyone is not hardwired to be a leader and certainly that is fine. However it will hurt his longevity now that he is on a team where there is no leader emerging.

Kathy is taking the lead but she is not a leader. She was unable to motivate and organize her team and got no help from Pappy. She is bossy, there is a difference.

Honey51

Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 06:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree, someone needs to take the lead. There's no planning on Kathy's part, only barking orders. I don't know if Paschal is that person, it may be Gina. I think if Mar loses the next challenge, Kathy will go.

Fruitbat

Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 07:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Better move to get Gina off but I wonder if they will get it. If Rotu sees their team members as the only ones remaining they will work hard a throwing a challenge to save them.

Not that I favor that senario, necessarily, but it is in their best interest.

I believe you are born with leadership skills. They have to be developed but the inherent personality has to be in place. I don't see that in any of the Mars that remain.

Fruitbat

Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 07:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'll throw in here that Hunter was not a good leader either. He took the role but failed to access his team and proceed with a plan to pull everyone together. He merely took charge. Two very different things.

Car54

Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 07:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think if Maraamu has to vote someone off, Kathy and Gina will pick one player, Neleh and Paschel will go another way, tie, and Kathy/Gina will win any tie breaker. Neleh and Paschel are not very competitive.

Fruitbat

Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 07:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
assess is the word I meant. <I do not proofread>

Nessietessie

Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 07:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I was very surprised to see Paschel and Nelah
not helping with the puzzle last night, it looked like they were dumbfounded and
just standing there.

I do like both of them, but I do not see them winning this thing.

I thought before this Survivor started, that
Paschel would be a leader, i don't know, I
just thought with him being a judge, that
he would be aggressive.

Twiggyish

Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 07:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It makes sense with both words.

Wink

Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 07:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fruit access fits there as well, altho why anyone would want to "access" that group is a mystery.123

Wink

Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 08:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It was a pretty pathetic display watching them all standing there looking dumfounded while Kathy barked out orders about the stupid eyes. The blind leading the blind.

Car54

Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 08:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I said this in another thread...I think Paschel is Papa Kim...he is going to skate pretty far by flying UTR... there are so many threats and jerks to boot, he is going to be there a while.

Fruitbat

Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 08:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I started a thread for impressions of all the players together so we wouln't get off topic here. Not that I care but some do find it confusing and end up posting the same things all over the place. <that would be me:)>

Yes both words work but my intention was to say he did not take time to see where everyone was coming from. <to end a sentence in a preposition :)>

Weinermr

Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 08:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I posted this elsewhere, but I'll say it here.

I'm really puzzled about Paschal's behavior so far. Look at his bio. Air Force, Chief District Attorney, Superior Court Judge. In my experience, people with this background are not passive, meek people. They are aggressive, take charge, no nonsense, decision makers.

Something is up with Paschal, but I'm not sure what it is yet. Maybe they are doing a really careful editing job on him, and not letting us see these aspects of his personality, but I truly believe we haven't even begun to experience the real Paschal yet.

How far this will take him in the game, I don't know yet. But don't fall for the passive meek ineffective picture they are painting. That can't be who he really is.

Seamonkey

Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 09:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think he must be physically down.. just a guess; he certainly looks pale and unhealthy to me.

Urgrace

Saturday, March 23, 2002 - 04:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
How can any of us 'assess' Paschal when we have had so little 'access' to his participation or non-participation? He could have been edited to make it look as though he is not doing any leading. And what was with that whole tribe during the challenge? It looked as though they were not trying to compete, like they were throwing it. I mean Kathy and Gina[?] were the only two with their hands on the puzzle, weren't they? Why didn't Pappy, Neleh and Sarah help? Even if you don't know how to do the puzzle, wouldn't you at least try? In examining the play by play of Tammy for her Superspoiling thread, I have noticed a lot of cross over editing. Is Paschal just playing UTR, or maybe it's MB's radar keeping us from seeing his interactions.

Twiggyish

Saturday, March 23, 2002 - 06:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good point Grace. Could there be a reason we aren't seeing much of him? hmmmmm

I think Paschal is a person to watch.

Awareinva

Monday, March 25, 2002 - 07:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I noticed that when "Pappy" had to change teams he had a disgusted look on his face. Gabe had his lips pressed tight together and mouthed "That's ok" (I think). Zoe winked and blew a kiss to Pappy. When the tribes walked away from the twist, Gabe stood and looked at Maraamu. Pappy put a hand up in goodbye and looked like he was tearing up.

I said before that Gabe probably gets along well with older educated people- really smart mature young people ususally tend to bond better with older people over those their own age. I think we should definitely watch for a Pappy/Gabe and maybe Zoe connection.

Seamonkey

Monday, March 25, 2002 - 03:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Pappy also waved goodbye to Sarah when she was booted, so just the wave may not be significant.

And the educated part, interesting to me that Sarah, Rob and Sean all have 4 year degrees from good schools. You can be educated but not smart.

As for that challenge, I wonder if Kathy's barking out orders just paralyzed P and N (who in the past had other more assertive teammates to deal with Kathy) and Sarah. Gina did try to participate but...

Car54

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 04:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
From the Atlanta Journal Constitution:
Laid-back 'Pappy' is same in court as on 'Survivor'

By JILL VEJNOSKA
Atlanta Journal-Constitution Staff Writer

He's been forced to eat fish as old and rotten as a Taliban's underwear. His recently acquired nickname -- "Pappy" -- makes him sound a bit like a gap-toothed geezer. And then there was that teeny little matter of his not being able to urinate on national television last week.

Through it all, Paschal English has been the picture of calm. The only thing that can make him crack, apparently, are the words a certain sweet-faced woman uttered in his presence Monday morning.

"My husband is an appeals officer for the Internal Revenue Service," she said in Courtroom B at the Fayette County Courthouse.

"Oooh!" English sucked in his breath and shuddered visibly.

It was a pure Everyman moment in what is an otherwise -- do pardon the understatement -- decidedly extraordinary existence these days. Each week, more than 20 million people watch English, 58, on "Survivor: Marquesas." Three people have already been eliminated going into tonight's episode of the CBS series that was filmed several months ago, but English is still there frolicking amidst the palm fronds on the Polynesian island of Nuku Hiva and trying not to get stabbed in the back by the other dozen competitors.

Back in real-time Georgia, English is a Superior Court judge whose circuit includes Fayette, Spalding, Upson and Pike counties. Here, the terms that have become so familiar to "Survivor" watchers over four incarnations of the hit series -- immunity, jury votes -- take on a whole different meaning. And the sight of lawyers huddling together to discuss pleas or swap gossip automatically recalls the whispered deal-making that goes on each week on "Survivor" as contestants scheme to win the $1 million grand prize.

All or none of this may have been going through English's mind as he watched intently from the bench, horn-rimmed glasses perched halfway down his nose. No one can say. Literally. Like all "Survivor" contestants, English is sworn to silence until the final episode airs in about three months and the sole Survivor is revealed. That means no media interviews and not even a hint dropped to the people who know him best.

"I really don't know what happened," insists April Woodall, English's judicial assistant for the past 15 years and the gatekeeper of his office door about two steps away from her desk. "When he came back, I said, 'I don't want you to tell me anything,' and he said, 'That's good, because I can't.' "

But she can provide some insight into how he ended up on the island. Woodall says an "Oprah" segment last summer inspired English's wife Beverly to make a list, along with her husband, of things they each wanted to do in life. If "Survivor" made the judge's list, it wasn't for the million bucks, associates say.

"I don't believe he did it for the money," says Carol Price, English's court reporter. "I think it was the challenge."

Future millionaire or not, English on Monday looked like a million bucks compared to his developing "Survivor" persona. A silky-looking black judicial robe had replaced the increasingly baggy shorts and T-shirt he favors on TV each week scrounging for grapefruit and not much else to eat alongside his "Rotu" tribe. His white hair, which may or may not be the source of the affectionate moniker hung on him by his fellow Rotu-rians last week and which has grown a bit wild on shower-free Nuku Hiva, was neatly combed and parted.

English didn't even seem comfortable with the nominal celebrity treatment usually accorded to judges when he popped through the back door of Courtroom B around 9:25 a.m. The bailiff hadn't completely gotten out his "All rise!" when English was directing everyone to sit right back down again so he could start riding herd over a courtroom stuffed to the gills with people who mostly looked about as morose as the latest person voted off of "Survivor." Some were there as potential jury members or witnesses, others to lend moral support to defendants or victims.

If nobody seemed much interested in English's "Survivor" celebrity, it was really no wonder. In the morning, English sentenced one man to 40 years in prison on charges including aggravated assault. After a brief lunch recess, the judge was presiding over the trial of a man charged with attempted burglary and aggravated assault.

Watching English in the courtroom, it was impossible not to wonder if 15 years as a judge might not have served him well on Nuku Hiva. Unlike the rival and rapidly self-destructing Maraamu tribe, Rotu hasn't had to form a jury to vote off one of its members. When it finally does, surely no one can bring as much practical experience to the task as English, who mostly listened quietly Monday as lawyers quizzed 30 potential jurors about things like their religion and their spouses' occupations (hence the IRS revelation).

English seems just as laid-back in the courtroom as he does on "Survivor" -- until he's had or heard enough.

"All right, we'll do the diversion center," he suddenly announced briskly Monday, stopping a long and somewhat self-serving guilty plea in its tracks. "You understand what the diversion center is?"

At least now all the courthouse regulars know about English's island diversion.

"Today was my first opportunity since last week's show to call him 'Pappy,' " chortled Fayette County Sheriff's Deputy C.P. Benefield, who keeps order in the courtrooms and a close eye on "Survivor" now. "I never had any interest in that show before, and now , like I told him, 'I'm a 16-weeker.' "

Benefield and the other courthouse regulars didn't know English was going to be on "Survivor" until CBS announced the contestants' names about a week before the first episode aired. Because he was off competing around the usually slow Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays, it took awhile for people to note his absence. Once they did, Woodall says, rumors flew, including one that the Air Force vet and retired Georgia Air National Guard colonel had been called up for duty.

"When he left, I knew where he was going. I had to," says Woodall, who also took a confidentiality vow. "But we never, ever lied. If people asked, I said he had to take care of something personal, but that he was all right and he'd be back."

Since then, the surprises have just kept on coming. Last week's third episode saw English literally try to take the sting out of a fellow Rotu-er's sea urchin-bitten finger by urinating on it. But as another tribe member sympathetically put it, a "performance anxiety thing" did English in. Yet even more startling to Woodall was the moment in episode two when the judge devoured a so-called "Marquesan delicacy" of fish soaked in a rotting marinade and then left to stand in the sun.

"That shocked me," Woodall sighs. "In 15 years, I've never seen him eat much more than a bagel."

Car54

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 03:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
From Macon.com

In Thomaston, 'Survivor' English already a winner
By Gray Beverley
Telegraph Staff Writer

THOMASTON - No matter what happens on a remote island in French Polynesia tonight, the tribe at Norris's Fine Foods in Thomaston is not about to vote its survivor "off the island."

When Superior Court judge and "Survivor: Marquesas" contestant Paschal English arrived Tuesday at the popular lunch spot on Short E Street - 4,597 miles and about four months removed from his island adventure - he was greeted by so many friends and fans that he barely had time to eat a corn bread muffin and take a sip of iced tea.

Under his contract with CBS, English, 58, cannot speak with the media until the episode is shown in which he is voted off the most popular island in television since the days of Gilligan and Mr. Roarke. English respected that gag order even when approached by a certain reporter from the CBS station in Atlanta.

Teresa Cooper, Middle Georgia's first "Survivor," was in town Tuesday with microphone in hand to get local comments about her successor's progress and to offer a few remarks of her own.

"He's playing under the radar," said Cooper, who lives in Jackson. Cooper said the judge appears to be well-respected, liked, and trusted by his fellow contestants, and that such traits should propel him into the final four.

In addition to a weekly spot on the Atlanta television station, Cooper is still selling real estate and Avon products, and she plans to resume her job as a Delta flight attendant this month.

"I think he's using his life experience to blend in," said assistant district attorney Gail Travillian, who was at Norris's on her lunch break from prosecuting a trial at which English was presiding.

Travillian said the judge has had a houseful of women - with wife, Beverly, and grown daughters Ashley and Rachel - so his all-female teammates in the Maraamu tribe is nothing new.

"I think he's pretty brave to do that," said longtime Thomaston resident Cleo Tatum of the judge's 39 days of seclusion for the show, on which his meals are often moving or infested with flies. "I hope he wins."

Cooper, whose African set was not quite as lush as the Tahitian paradise enjoyed by the latest batch of castaways, said she wishes her group had had the added challenge of being forced to find all of its own food, just as English and his fellow contestants must do.

After lunch, English continued presiding over a case in which a Georgia Department of Transportation license inspector was accused of marijuana possession. When the defendant's son attempted to describe on the stand how he felt when questioned by authorities, English asked what he meant when he answered his "soul gets thin."

"You know when you get hungry, how it feels?" the 25-year-old asked the judge.

"Yeah, I sure do," replied English to the amusement of the "Survivor" fans in the room.

Even the defendant's mother, who was sitting next to Cooper and was teary-eyed during the boy's testimony, talked comfortably about her love of "Survivor" and English's reputation for fairness.

As did the bailiffs.

When Terrell Miles - who once put a "Pappy" name plate on the judge's bench in recognition of English's TV nickname - was pressed to say exactly why he liked the judge so much, Miles cupped his hand to his mouth and said with a smile, "He granted my divorce."

"He's a good fellow," said Leon Newman, another bailiff, who said there are "Survivor" parties every Thursday all around town. "He's a firm judge, but he's a good judge."

Miles thinks English will go far, in part because he has kept his mouth shut, at least in the broadcast version of the episodes.

"Because he's not loud; he doesn't make a lot of speeches," Miles said. "But what he says, they listen to it."

Though English would frequently offer a smile from the bench, his decisions were prompt and firm.

"I overruled your objection," he said abruptly to a persistent defense attorney.

For most of the trial, he stared with sharp eyes above tortoise shell glasses, the look of a man to whom you might tell your most intimate secret, even if you knew he would disapprove. At the same time, as he glanced at a laptop or rubbed his ear, the serious look said you'd better finish your vegetables and be on time for church.

For all the joking, the judge - whose crisp look in court defies the image of the shaggy television contestant fumbling blindfolded in a "Survivor" challenge - was quite strict in his sentencing. English said the guilty defendant's possession of marijuana was "despicable" and "deplorable," especially in light of the man's affiliation with law enforcement and the revelation that he smoked pot with his son.

"To me, you should be held to a higher standard," English said, giving the first offender six months in jail as well as a hefty fine.

All the while, English was never ruffled, never rude, often calling counsels on both sides "ma'am."

In this small town, English will continue to be a celebrity, no matter what the outcome of "Survivor."

Nonetheless, many hope he will win.

"In my book, they don't come any better than Paschal English," said Capt. Stoney Spier, the chief bailiff. "If I was a betting man, I would bet he would be in the final four."

Squaredsc

Sunday, May 19, 2002 - 03:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
good luck to ya pappy. that's all, no more no less.