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Whoami

Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 01:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Great job Grace! I noticed her body language when she was "thanking" Kathy for a share of the Snickers bar too. To me, it read, "you're nothing but a suck up, and if you think this is going to put you higher on our list, you're dumber than I thought."

She's my next pick (hopeful thinking) to leave.

Llkoolaid

Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 02:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Great job Urgrace, thanks. I already voted in deadpool for Zoe to go, just because I want her to leave and I voted for Tammy to win immunity again.
Everybody seems to think it is Tammy to leave and I have to admit that she is the obvious one but things are not working that way this year so I don't know if I will change my vote or not.

Gina8642

Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 07:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm not counting Tammy out of this game yet. She is very determined and she is good at challanges.

They have repeatedly said that alliances are much more free wheeling this season. I don't think we've seen the end of it.

Tammy may still be able to survive several more episodes. Does she win? - I don't know.

I really have no clue who will win this year.

Llkoolaid

Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 08:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Gina, I am not counting her out yet. I think Zoe has a bigger chance of going. They know that she was lying and that she betrayed her alliance. I don't see how any of them could trust her. If her vote for John was shown I can see Tammy and Robert voting for her. Kathy said she knew Zoe was lying to her but just didn't want to push her any further to make her admit it. She didn't want to make anymore waves. I don't think Sean trusts her and Vee I think is going to stick with whoever the majority are voting for. Neleh and Pappy will vote for one of R/T/Z before they go for Sean. I think Tammy is safe this week unless Zoe wins immunity. Tammy knows she isn't safe so I think she will be giving it all she has to win another immunity.

Knightpatti

Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 09:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Someone said that John and Tammy were the first two together out. Does anyone have any details about this spoiler?

Llkoolaid

Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 09:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I didn't know that Knightpatti, I hope someone has the details. I always go for the long shot and by what I think they should do. I am wrong a lot.

Urgrace

Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 09:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tammy is a very strong player, and if the others are smart they will eliminate her as soon as possible because of it. She seemed to be telling John how to vote, which I thought was interesting, and he didn't turn on her when she told him she wouldn't throw the challenge (with Rob, Vee, and Sean in the maze).

I'd hate to see Robert get pulled down and out just because he was in Rotu among the originals. He and Zoe have apparently never been in alliance with Tammy and John, just went along with them for the Gabe and Rob votes. I believe they are thinking and voting independently. Tammy may be the person who tries to sway others next week in order to save herself. If she doesn't win IC it is a good bet she's joining John in loser lodge.

Urgrace

Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 09:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There was a spoiler here somewhere that said in a news report that Tammy was seen aboard the loser ship right after John was seen.

Joan

Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 09:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tammy is shown wearing the immunity necklace in the preview for next week. She has a black bikini on. Is that just a clip from this past week?

Car54

Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 04:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
There is also a thread over at SS by several posters in Asia where they say a different promo was shown and they say there is a confrontation between Zoe and Tammy- Tammy calls Zoe a b*tch.

Seamonkey

Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 09:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
And Zoe told her she had never liked her.. I think the b*tch label is said to be in a confessional. Wish we'd see that preview.

Car54

Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 10:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sounds like we got some finger waggin' comin' up!

Fun, fun, fun!

Moondance

Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 10:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
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Urgrace

Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 03:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Joan I haven't seen the promo for next week, but she was wearing the black sports bra in last weeks challenge and they are going to have to swim in the next.....

Squaredsc

Monday, April 22, 2002 - 09:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
ooh, possible cat fight? this should be fun or it could be for the princess episode.

Moondance

Monday, April 22, 2002 - 05:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Where is Hippy???

I found them at Mess going back and forth about Tammy getting IC again this week but they may have concluded that she does... they are saying since the ocean is to the left of them then it is them returning from IC ...hmmmm

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Hippyt

Monday, April 22, 2002 - 07:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here I be!!!! You know,that makes so much sense. BUT(lol) I just read this thread ..wait,I'll just go copy it,brb....

Hippyt

Monday, April 22, 2002 - 07:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tammy's Ep. 9 immunity..
I'm not sure, but is everyone still assuming Tammy wins immunity again this episode? Because I was looking at the vidcaps of the preview, and noticed something. (www.survivorfever.net/ep9-promo1.html)
In the shot of the survivors walking on the beach, when Tammy is wearing the IN, Kathy, Robert, and Tammy are all wearing sandals. Now, I don't know if maybe they got the stilts early and practiced and found out they worked best with sandals (I doubt it), but in any case, the contestants almost ALWAYS wear sneakers to the Immunity Challenges (just look at video clips on www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor4 to see). This would especially apply considering the stilt challenge, which likely has a clue suggesting the physical nature of the challenge.
So, if this is the case, then that fact along with the fact that Zoe and Tammy appear to be carrying odd objects (not their clothes?) suggests that this is NOT a walk neither to NOR from IC, but something else all together.
I wasn't sure if people were still debating whether or not she wins (the post was bumped off the main page, at least) but I thought I'd bring this up to get feedback and revive the topic - if not tammy, who else might win the next IC?

-runner

(edited to fix my dumb mistakes)
(This is from Surviiivor.com)
This kinda makes sense too! They wouldn't show up for IC in sandals. Interesting......

Gina8642

Monday, April 22, 2002 - 07:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
How do we know the stilt challange is IC and not RC? If the swimming thing has anything to do with Immunity, it would make sense to go to it wearing sandals.

On the other hand, the vid caps of the water challange seem to shoe them in shoes as the race down the beach toward the water.

Hard to say.

I'm kinda going with Tammy winning immunity for the second time (I reserve the right to change my mind before Thursday) mostly because they weren't being subtle last week when they showed her with the Immunity Necklace - I don't see them changing this week.

Hippyt

Monday, April 22, 2002 - 07:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gina,here's what I've read(believe me I didn't figure this out on my own!) We know the RC is a team thing,because two of them get to go on the helicopter ride.The vidcaps show the beach divided off into sections with two members each running for the beach. Meaning this must be the RC. Stilts left for the IC.
Of course,as we all know,this could be all wrong if MB has been crafty in the editing room this week!
Kinda does tend to point to Tammy winning again though! And,she HAS to know she MUST win it this week!

Knightpatti

Monday, April 22, 2002 - 08:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So Hippy this is driving me crazy! I did not accept the fact before hand that they would show us a picture of Tammy winning IC last week and she did. Now if I believe it this week and she does not I will feel had!!! You made a good point about the shoes. Do you think that MB is just trying to throw us because we all know that it would be Tammy if she does not win IC? Tammy knows she is going too if she does not win IC. Who would go if she wins IC? Very little has been said about Robert.

Hippyt

Monday, April 22, 2002 - 09:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Knightpatti,driving me a little bonkers as well! I would say,it could really go any way. I think Robert is safe,he hasn't lied. Zoe seems to be the pick of a lot of people out there. She has been lying,and she isn't very good at it. She voted for John,but I don't think Kathy will trust her anymore.
My outside vote is for Sean though. If he comes in thinking he's the new ruler,gets all cocky and mouthy. They may all band together one last time,and get rid of the wind-bag!

Urgrace

Monday, April 22, 2002 - 10:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
How do we know that this is not a picture of the tribemates coming back from the last challenge? The clothing is the same and MB has been overlapping the film editing a lot. It would make sense for Tammy to push hard for immunity again, because she knows most of the others will be taking her out as soon as possible.

The promo also show Sean, Zoe, and Neleh breaking coconuts and then Vee hugging Neleh, so Neleh and her partner must win the reward challenge.

Moondance

Monday, April 22, 2002 - 10:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually, Grace Tammy had a t-shirt on when she got the last IC (I think a pink no sleeve one)

Lobster

Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 03:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Moon, on the walk back to camp after Tammy won immunity, she wasn't wearing the shirt.

I thought the same thing as Urgrace, that they showed the same walk only from a different angle, just to throw us off. I looked at it a couple of times, and checked out the vidcaps again, and I'm just not convinced the vidcaps are new. I just don't know.