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Grooch | Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 08:10 am     From the Lincoln County News: Zoe to be Confronted by Kathy in Next Episode 04/17/02 This week’s episode of “Survivor: Marquesas” should feature a confrontation involving Zoe Zanidakis of Monhegan Island, according to CBS. At some point during the episode, Zoe will be confronted by Kathy (the real estate agent on a leadership binge) regarding issues of honesty and allegiance, the early reports said. In the most recent episode, the Rotu and Maraamu merged as one. And, to no one's surprise and everybody's relief, Rob Mariano (the cocky construction worker) was finally voted off the island. On the Friday morning edition of "The Early Show" Rob was unchanged from his island personality - lying in front of a national audience as easily as a past president - Rob "misspoke" about his allegiance with Sarah. He was immediately caught in the lie by an interviewer. Asked further about his penchant for sloppy lies and manipulation while in the game (and apparently ongoing), Rob said: "I lied, I was deceitful; but I did it out in the open." Rob's talent for lying took on grand dimensions in one segment of the most recent episode where he and Kathy were selected from the two tribes to name the new tribe. The process involved a journey to a "tohua", which announcer Jeff Probst described as a public meeting place. To their surprise Kathy and Rob were treated to a meal of pizza and cold beer upon their arrival. While they imbibed what Rob later recalled as "about 22 beers - I lost count" (in fact it was revealed on “The Today Show” that he was “cut off’ by the “Survivor” production crew), Rob told Kathy that all the current members of the Rotu tribe had agreed to vote off members of the current Maraamu tribe once the tribes merge. This, of course, was a complete abomination of the truth - but it sure got Kathy's attention. Kathy was particularly disappointed because she had felt that she and Zoe had enjoyed an honest friendship. (There you go Rob, causing problems for our Zoe again.) Between gulps of beer, the two also decided to name the new tribe Soliantu, a word they created and then decided to define as "the sacred allegiance of the sun". Before the two retired to sleeping quarters for the night, Rob privately celebrated the web of deceit he was weaving among other players, particularly John and Kathy. "I've been lying this whole game," Rob proudly told the camera. After the tribes merged, Kathy became the complete paranoid, trusting no one - Zoe in particular. Later, angry words were exchanged when Rob approached Kathy and Zoe. Feeding Kathy's paranoia, he asked Zoe about whether she had promised to vote Kathy off. Zoe denied the allegation, but it only led to more frustration for Kathy, who broke away from the scene in confusion. Then came the first individual immunity challenge - a contest called "sea legs" where contestants had to balance on a floating raft. Of course, Zoe's fans thought she would take this prize easily. However, it was Kathy who ended up winning the challenge, and immunity from being voted off the island this episode. During the elimination vote, at least one vote was cast against Zoe, who reacted with a rue smile. Later it was revealed that a spiteful Kathy cast the vote. Another noteworthy vote cast during the elimination was from Vee (the former Air Force cop), who cast a vote to eliminate Rob. This was surprising, as there had at least been an appearance that the former Maraamu members (Rob, Vee, and Sean) would try to stick together. Looks like those commitments may be following the trends of the new tribe. Countdown: The past episode was #7 of 13, with the game in day 21 of 39 total days. |
Awareinva | Friday, April 19, 2002 - 07:24 am     Awareinva wrote: <The other option I thought of is that the title means the first jury member is John who is "out" thanks to the Robfather. Even Mark B. wouldn't be that crass, would he? I could possibly see John going if Kathy and crew wise up to the Rotu 4 alliance.....> OMG- do you think this is really what the title meant???? JURY....OUT!!!! LOL Maybe Mark B. really is that crass- and maybe these titles are better spoilers than we thought!!! Time to get serious about spoiling them people! |
Llkoolaid | Friday, April 19, 2002 - 04:13 pm     Is next week 2 peas in a pod. They could be Neleh "sweetpea" and Kathy "we all saw her pee". Did anyone notice who Neleh is talking to in the promos of next week when she is laughing and saying "we beat them at their own game. I think it is Neleh leading Paschal now and I wonder if Neleh and Kathy team up. Remember way back when it was just speculating and someone said the final three were two women and a man. It isn't a very far stretch for me to see Neleh,Paschal and Kathy as the final 3. I think we are going to see Tammy,Zoe ,Robert go first. Then we will be left with Neleh, Paschal and Sean,Vee with Kathy as the swing vote. Neleh showed she has quiet power last night and I think she will know exactly how things will be with the last five and know she needs Kathy. I really think the 2 peas are them and they form an inner alliance next week. Does this make any sense to anyone else. I really want to get plottin and plannin early this week. I love discussing what is going to happen, and don't mind if people rip apart what I have to say. I am sure I am missing lots of points. So tell me what I have wrong. |
Seamonkey | Monday, April 22, 2002 - 10:34 am     CBSEyemail: Shifting Allegiances! A seemingly secure alliance of the seven former Rotu tribe members fell apart faster than the coconuts dropped from the trees and John Carroll, the alliance's self-proclaimed leader, earned the unwanted distinction of becoming the first member of the SURVIVOR: MARQUESAS jury. Thursday's episode (April 25, 8/7c) finds Sean in the catbird seat, but for how long? A REALITY BIG WEDNESDAY! SURVIVOR: MARQUESAS -- Let's Go to the Videotape! Soliantu is down to eight members, so it's a great time to reflect on what's happened during the time they've been on the island. We've done a lot of the work for you by putting together SURVIVOR: MARQUESAS - THE FIRST 24 DAYS. This special takes a look at the highlights of the castaways' island life, including never-before-seen footage, on Wednesday, April 24, 8/7c. |
Car54 | Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 05:07 am     With the recap this week, I wonder if they are going to set us up for the "Jerri" scenario....In S2, they gave a lot of recap time to Jerri, and showed a side to her they hadn't shown, and the next episode, they booted her. I could see Zoe getting some exposure in the recap then the confrontation with Tammy, some kind of twist, and she is out. |
Squaredsc | Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 11:11 am     LL it sounds very logical, the two peas/pees are neleh and kathy, i understand perfectly. car, i thought next weeks episode is called "the princess" was this refering to zoe's nickname warrior princess? if so this could mean that she lasts another week?? any thoughts? oh, i hope this recap is actually some stuff we haven't seen. i was very disappointed in s-africa's recap last season 'cause it was all stuff we've seen before. maybe zoe will actually speak more than once in this one.  |
Nanya | Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 12:08 pm     Square, you learned to animate your Joker! One of these days, when I grow up, I'm going to learn to do great graphics. |
Grooch | Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 12:11 pm     Nanya, go to Square's folder. I left instructions for her in there on how to do it. It really is easy. |
Fruitbat | Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 12:21 pm     Zoe going seems logical to me, Car. I used to think that no one goes that we have seen so little of, at this stage of the game, but maybe she just has not produced interesting footage. They certainly would not eliminate any of what we have seen to show a dull player. Sean, Vee and Kathy seem to like her the least and I think this will be where the vote is decided. Paschall is a worry though. I don't think he feels comfortable having shifted his alliance and could be talked back. |
Moondance | Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 12:24 pm     >Sean, Vee and Kathy seem to like her the least < Huh??? I would think Tammy or Robert would be ahead of her with Kathy or Sean. |
Sia | Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 12:31 pm     Okay, it's almost a week later, but I didn't see this addressed in this thread after the episode aired: the "Two Peas in a Pod" were Neleh ("Sweet Pea") and Paschal. Please overlook this if it's already been said; I just think that MB's episode titles really do give spoiler information. |
Fruitbat | Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 12:32 pm     I am just going with a hunch, Moon. Zoe lied to Kathy's face. She did not like that. At one point we thought Tammy and Vee were close because of some footage. In looking at the personalities I am figuring Sean does not click with her as well as the others. Tell me why you think Tammy and Robert are more at risk. |
Moondance | Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 12:35 pm     Because Zoe voted for John... I think Zoe and Kathy made up more than we were shown. I see them seeing Tammy and Robert to be more of a challenge 'winner' threat on top of being in the orginal allaince. |
Moondance | Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 12:36 pm     Sia... go look in the "Two peas in a pod" thread |
Fruitbat | Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 12:44 pm     I am thinking Zoe made a last ditch effort to save herself having seen the tide turn and they (Sean and co)will not buy this or even look at that as anything but too little too late. Again I am going on a feeling, that is all. |
Moondance | Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 12:48 pm     Thats fine... you just ask me to explain and I did... I don't see it happening that way. I see Tammy or Robert as a BIGGER threat. |
Hippyt | Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 01:28 pm     I think all three of them are in trouble,but Tammy by far the most! She better keep her head in that necklace,first time it comes off,whammo,she's toast! |
Moondance | Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 01:33 pm     I agree Hippy! Zoe bought some time for voting John, I feel. I like both of them... I don't want them to go just yet! |
Car54 | Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 01:38 pm     OK, here is what I think about Zoe: (like anybody asked me!) 1. FOR ZOE BEING BOOTED: She voted for John She betrayed her old Rotu alliance She supposedly lied to Kathy and Rob (we so far have only Rob's word for that...John did nothing to confirm that there was a plan to boot Kathy. If anything he undermined the lie theory..he says he was playing the other 2 alliances against each other.) She is probably an immunity threat She was very aggressive in the chopping competition . Tammy calls her a b*tch in the asian previews. 2. AGAINST ZOE: No one knows how she voted...there was one unread vote at TC...it was Vee's but they don't know that. John himself never knew until Lex told him in a post boot interview. Tammy and Robert are the obvious targets...they are the most closely aligned with John. It all depends on how Zoe handles herself with Kathy, Neleh and Paschel. AND the other big unknown is her relationship with Vee. We have seen Vee and Tammy together talking, but how do Vee and Zoe get along. She may have a relationship with Paschel and Neleh...she was very upset when they were twisted to Maraamu (remember her dirty looks at Jeff?) Unless we see a whole lot more of Zoe in the Recap, it goes against everything MB has ever done with editing for Zoe to have been on the show this long, and to have so little exposure, and then to get booted. If Zoe suddenly becomes the leading lady of the recap, THEN I think it is a "Jerri" setup...they let us get to know her, then she might go this week in a sudden turn of events. I still think John would have spoken differently of her if she was with him on the jury, tho. |
Moondance | Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 01:40 pm     I couldn't have said it better! |
Seamonkey | Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 01:49 pm     Sounds good, Car. Moon couldn't have said it better  |
Car54 | Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 01:51 pm     Yeah, yeah, you guys say that to all the girls! edited to add: I forgot to say: IT IS ALL ABOUT IMMUNITY! (and I am not totally believing the Tammy/necklace picture) |
Moondance | Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 01:54 pm     LOL |
Grooch | Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 01:55 pm     Maybe Tammy wins every single IC for the rest of the shows? |
Car54 | Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 01:57 pm     well maybe |
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