Car54 | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 05:32 am     Saw Gabe on the Early Show.... This kid has a future in politics... He talked and talked and I have no idea what he said. |
Micknrc | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 05:34 am     rotflmao--His clip on "ethics" on CBS site is similar... |
Fruitbat | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 05:44 am     LOL!! I thought the exact same thing. Young, idealistic mumbojumbo. He will mature, look back at the tapes, laugh and be embarassed at the same time. He is young. |
Resortgirl | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 05:57 am     Shoot, I can't get the cbs site to work for me! He should be on the early show in about 15 minutes though! I don't get it though... I thought the Early Show was live, so how come you guys saw it alreadY? |
Spygirl | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 06:15 am     It's ON!!! |
Spygirl | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 06:24 am     Repeat of Gabe's discussion with John about not being here to play the game. Showed his leaving Tribal Council. He has shorter hair now. This is paraphrased: Gabe: Everything changes when you get there and form bonds with people...created a great social environment....it was very very cool. Bryant: But that's the game. WHY did you even apply? Gabe: Everything changes when you get out there...this is a great chance to test some of my principles. Bryant: So are the ethics of the game the same as in life? Gabe: this is a journey...a journey for everyone...ethics are on an individual basis. I didn't tell anyone how to play the game. Bryant: Are some more ethical than others? Gabe: not at all...<insert more introspection>...I decided not to try to win a million dollars. Bryant: Would you have been better off if they had never done the switch of members? Gabe: Absolutely. When I saw their torches walking into camp, it was game on. <discussion about John and his leadership> Gabe says he never saw a leader in the tribe. The switch was the beginning of the end. John was out there to win a million dollars. Bryant: Did you see him as manipulative? Gabe: I think he is a sharp person and well-rounded. Bryant: That's not what I asked. Did you see him as manipulative? Gabe: No. But you don't see a lot of behind the scenes. Would I say he is manipulative? No. Would I say he went out there to win the game? Yes. Bryant: Why didn't you vote with the Maraamu guys? You had a shot of staying. Gabe: I thought about it. I was in tears over it. But i had to make a choice. I didn't want the experience to be over with. But, you come back and you see what you say about these people, you have to be able to watch it with your friends and family. Bryant: Were you able to do that? Were you proud of what you did? Gabe: Absolutely? (except something I missed) Bryant: Okay -- we liked that. Where do you want this to go? Gabe: Adventure races. Everything I like about Survivor. |
Resortgirl | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 06:30 am     I think Gabe has been the most honest so far about his "ethics" Other bootees have said similar things but to me it seemed they were covering their butts after making mistakes in the game and then saying they did that because they wanted to be true to their values and ethics. |
Grooch | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 06:31 am     No wonder they voted him off. It drives me insane when you ask people a question and they always answer something that either A.) makes no sense or B.) has nothing to do with what you asked. This is a major pet peeve with me. I would have been slapping him silly out there. |
Grooch | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 06:33 am     Forget what I said. I wouldn't have been slapping him silly. I would have been holding his head under water until someone tore me off him. |
Resortgirl | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 06:36 am     LOL Grooch! Now I'm scared that I DID understand what he said... Remind me to wear protective gear if we ever meet in person.. |
Mindyrama | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 06:52 am     Yeah, I got to stay home today (good friday) so I actually got to see it...he was almost as vague as Sarah....I felt kinda sad though when I saw he chose Rob. It's a shame John is so paranoid. |
Car54 | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 06:59 am     Who the HELL cares about ethics. This is Survivor. That's all I have to say. |
Jenhavins | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 07:21 am     I used to have a boss like him. You would walk in his office to ask him a question and by the time you walked out you forgot what the question was and never got the question answered in the first place. A great politician Gabe will make. |
Resortgirl | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 07:38 am     Car54, I agree with you about that. I don't think I would play the game the way Gabe did, no I KNOW I wouldn't! I was just saying that I believe him when he says he tried to play the game ethically, and I didn't believe others that tried to say that was their strategy. Don't get MAD!! |
Car54 | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 07:44 am     I'm not mad at all, I just think he was dumb... what the heck show did he think he was going on? |
Webkitty | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 07:55 am     I understood what he was saying. He knew what show he was going on, but when he actually got to the island he was overtaken with the beauty and tranquility of it and he REALLY liked his tribe members. He enjoyed pulling together to have tribal wins. When the teams were switched he saw that the "game" was on and at that point he made a decision not to play the game to win for himself. To each his own, everyone is not Richard Hatch. If you read his bio he is not a dumb kid, he's done a lot in his short life, I wish him well. |
Seamonkey | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 08:13 am     Absolutely to each his own, but jeez, you'd think CBS could find a full complement of people who actually want to play the game. I just saw the early quick segment with him.. he sort of talks with a lisp, said his not wanting to play the game was his "downfall from the beginning" and wasn't an issue until they had to go to Tribal Council.. Bryant asked him about not allying with the former Maraamus and he said it was "not my speed totally" (eh??) His mom cut his hair and even tho Jane complimented him, it looks terrible (IMO) I dunno, seems like he should have gone on BB or Amazing Race or something. If he really likes his tribe members so much, he should have stayed and helped eliminate the Moos and gotten on the jury. Again, just my opinion. .I'm sure he can go far, but I wouldn't consider working in a bar the best start. Ah.. he just popped in with Bryant for a two liner and said "two weeks; not too shabby".. |
Seamonkey | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 08:15 am     Oh yeah.. I was up til 2am so I set my vcr to tape from 5am to 9am, so later I'll go view the early news with many fast forwards and see what the "backstage fighting" thing was about, assuming they did include it. |
Seamonkey | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 08:23 am     Spygirl covered the long convo well, if I can fill in any gaps.. Relationship with John "great friends". Friendship solid before the switch; people who came out to win a million dollars started .. Didn't see John as manipulative, he was "well rounded". He felt you had to choose between the experience and the game. Be proud of what he did. He wants more adventures... adventure racing.. <commercial> wow.. he really does speak much gobbledegook!! |
Grooch | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 08:34 am     Now, try working in an office full of people who speak goobleygook. It will drive you insane. |
Seamonkey | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 08:34 am     My god, he's used the phrase "not too shabby" over and over and over. The teddybear is "Jimmy".. This is is first time in NY; goes back to Calif Monday.. His mom was really sad. He thinks his parents are proud of him. Well Jane and Bryant are fawning all over him, so he must have quite a magnetic personality. Think that's it.. "Not too shabby!" <snort> |
Maris | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 08:42 am     The thing is you dont go into games like that if you want to win but play it ethically. If he can go away with an attitude that I spent two weeks on a beautiful island and had a great time, then good for him. |
Seamonkey | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 08:55 am     I suppose, but seems like he's had plenty of travel and adventure in his life, why not leave the game of survivor to one of the other 50000 people who actually wanted to play it? |
Maris | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 08:59 am     I agree 100% Seamonkey. It is also convenient to say after you have been booted that you would only play the game ethically and so you decided to enjoy the scenery. I wonder if he had lasted another week or so whether he would have felt the same. Face it, he had made an agreement to keep his tribe together and then it looked like he backed out. |
Webkitty | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 09:00 am     Seamonkey, we get that this young man bothers you LOL! He's out of the game now, so you can relax BTW, I always looked forward to your live feed posts during BB, you were the best! Have a nice Easter  |