It's ALL in the Waterfall
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Gina8642 | Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 08:03 pm     I just wanted to find out if anyone else was bothered by it. Some were, some weren't. I was. I think Sia stated Pascal's reasoning very well. The funny thing about survivor is that there is no right or wrong way to win the game. It isn't necessarly about hard work. It isn't necssarily about teamwork. It isn't necessarly going to be similar from season to season. It is only about who out lasts who to the final vote. And who can convince the majority of jury to vote for them. No one player is more or less deserving than another. Sean deserves to still be in the game in Ep. 9 as much as Pascal does. |
Llkoolaid | Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 08:24 pm     I don't blame Paschal for voting out John, His word to John was based on his trust of John and he saw that he couldn't trust John. I shouldn't call him a fool either. It is just that I was disappointed in him when he made the comment about Sean based upon what Gina had told him. I still don't think Sean is lazy or any less deserving to win this game then anyone else. I don't think Paschal has seen enough of Sean to pass that kind of judgement on him. I was naive enough to think that with Paschal being a judge he would be base his opinions on people based on what he saw and since the tribes merged Sean has been working as hard as anyone else. I always thought he would be the one who was smart enough to figure out what was going on with John, not have kathy plant the seed and then Neleh convince him. I thought he was a very smart person who would be able to read people better than he has. This isn't making very much sense, I guess what I am trying to say is I am disappointed in him because he isn't the man I thought he was. They were just my expectations of him and I felt let down by him last week. I was happy he finally saw the light and that he is finally playing the game, but I really do think he went from one group of people using him to another and I don't think he will get any closer than 5th anyway. |
Hippyt | Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 08:38 pm     That's a good point Gina,but you have to look at where Ol Judgy was coming from. He certainly wasn't playing any game,just along for the ride,watching the others. I think what he was saying was based,like LLkoolaid says on what he was told by Gina(the other one).Isn't that called hear-say? LOL He may be a good judge,but he isn't prepared for this game,although I still think he did the right thing this week. And PLEASE,comparing him to Tom,oh c'mon!!!! |
Hippyt | Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 08:42 pm     Is it just me,or did this thread wander from the topic????? Sean's vidcap makes me smile! "Yeah,baby,brand new day!" |
Llkoolaid | Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 08:44 pm     Yeah, I have to admit that was out of line and way overboard, sorry sometimes I get carried away and my mouth works faster than my brain. |
Llkoolaid | Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 08:46 pm     Ok, so we are talking about waterfalls, and the people in power being shown. Shouldn't we see Kathy there? |
Sunriverose | Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 09:00 pm     They showed Kathy there a lot last episode, and she did have the power and convinced N & P to change their point of view. |
Llkoolaid | Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 09:08 pm     Your right Sun, I forgot, and I taped the show and watched it over again. I am tired, it is past 1 am here. I hate how very few people are on when I am. I can never get in to a good conversation but just catch up the next day. |
Hippyt | Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 09:11 pm     LL,I wasn't directing that towards you! No need to be sorry,that was actually a good conversation. Some people out there think if Paschal makes it to the final two,his going back on his word to John will bite him in the butt. I kinda doubt that,but it's a discussion. The whole waterfall thing cracks me up,although,MB has used symbolism in the past to show us who wins,it's just up to us to figure it out! |
Car54 | Monday, April 22, 2002 - 07:11 am     Gina, I am with you on Paschel and his comments. It showed me a side of him that I didn't really like very much. I applaud him for finally getting in the game and taking control of his fate, but I was not too happy with some of his comments to John. I wouldn't like it no matter WHO he was commenting about... to call another player an "embarrassment" to the camera is not very savvy. It says more about the person making the comment than about the person being commented about. I think Paschel came out from Under the Radar last week, and I will be watching what he says and does very carefully. He needs to remember that if he DOES manage to outlast Sean, or anyone else he disapproves of, he will need to play in such a way that he earns their respect and their votes in the finals- maybe he missed that day of Survivor orientation. |
Squaredsc | Monday, April 22, 2002 - 09:06 am     i agree car, gina, LL, i was surprised by his comments also. but the waterfall thing is interesting, so is the pic of sean and the waterfall for this week? if so i guess this means he will last at least for another week. it sounds as good as anyother speculation so far. sorry i couldn't comment earlier but my internet has been out all weekend and im going thru withdrawals, had to wait til work to see and post.  |
Awareinva | Monday, April 22, 2002 - 10:36 am     In rewatching episode 8, Paschal promised John he wasn't going to ally with Sean and Vee to vote him off. I think it's a matter of semantics, but I don't think he did ally with them and so he did not break his promise to John. I think Pappy, Neleh, and Zoe have been close since the beginning (Gabe was part of this). I think that this is why Pappy hasn't been responsive to Kathy's ranting; he knew the facts from Zoe and knew they had to just bide their time. This is why Zoe voted John.... she Neleh and Pappy are a tight three- Gabe was their fourth, but Zoe had to go into deep cover to survive when they got split up. I think the three of them decided it was time to combine with the other three (Kathy, Sean and Vee) to break John's power. They will take out Robert or Tammy this week- whichever doesn't have immunity. Then if they are smart, they will take out Sean next week and eliminate a possible Kathy, Sean and Vee opposition to them at the final 6. If they don't get smart and take Robert out next week, then f6 may show a tie- Pappy, Neleh and Zoe Vs. Kathy, Sean and Vee. Oh the possibilities. I would actually like to see Kathy go with Sean and Vee. Much more interesting that way. I am thinking though that Kathy will stay with the original team. Possible Kathy, Zoe, Pappy and Neleh final four??? |
Nanya | Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 12:48 pm     Thanx Gina! I was offended by Pascal's reference to Sean. I mentioned it to a friend & was accused of being hypersensitive. I understand that he would vote Sean off because of his alliance with John...its in the bounds of the game. He came off to me as being arrogant and even a little mean. Now I don't like him soooo....he can't go to the waterfall!! |
Neko | Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 12:27 pm     Should we be looking for Waterfall hints in the Recap? I mean, it could show why this person left and this one didn't or whatever. Also it should show some footage from last week left out so you could see other people OTHER than Kathy in the Waterfalls. Will anyone be looking? |
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