Patricia on the Morning Show
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Catfat

Friday, March 08, 2002 - 09:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The interview with Patricia was blocked out here in Seattle because of a giant snowstorm. Can anyone tell me what she said? Imagine a news station thinking that a snowstorm is more important than Survivor!!
Thanks, Catfat

Resortgirl

Friday, March 08, 2002 - 10:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cat,
She said that she held no grudges against anyone, even when they pushed to get some dirt she said she had nothing against anyone. Bryant asked her if she would have done anything differently, and she said no, she is who she is and can't change that. She also said later when asked again if she would change the way she played that she is not an actress and was just being herself. She felt that hunter and Gina were close to her and the three of them would never vote against each other but the word alliance was never said. She doesn't think the others had an "alliance" either but wasn't sure as alot was going on behind her back.

Catfat

Friday, March 08, 2002 - 10:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks, Resortgirl. I think the real reason she was voted off is because she was perceived as being a middle-aged, somewhat overweight woman, and thus useless in the eyes of most young mallrat types. Forget the fact of her knowledge, experience, skills, leadership abilities, etc. I am sad to see her go, but not surprised.

Crazydog

Friday, March 08, 2002 - 11:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cat, I disagree. Everyone recognized that she worked hard. She wasn't voted off for being old and fat. I think the real reason she was voted off was because she was bossy and abrasive. At least four of them thought her mothering was hard to take. Sarah made the comment at TC. Vecepia said in an interview that the momma thing was played out. Sean said she was loud. But most telling to me was the exchange when Patricia was yelling at Rob about the tool tree. "What did I tell you?" "yeah yeah yeah I heard you, I know" "Well then where's the knife?" He was clearly annoyed. Four annoyed tribemates equals one boot. And even Hunter acknowledged that she likes to nag. She would have been my choice as well.

Cablejockey

Friday, March 08, 2002 - 12:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cat....I agree with you. Like attracts like and Patricia was too old and fat to fit in. They even kept a self-confessed slacker who was just as abrasive but oh so young and thin! The other young and thins stuck with their own. Kathy on the other team will go for the same reason.

Grooch

Friday, March 08, 2002 - 12:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The reason why she is gone is because the tribe is divided just like it was in Africa.

Hunter, Patricia and Gina voted to get rid of Sara.

Sean, Vee, Rob and Sara vote for Patrica.

Sean wants to be the leader and get rid of Hunter who is his biggest threat. He has bonded with Vecepia and she will vote with him.

Rob wants to keep Sara because he said keeping her is him having 2 votes. She will follow him. Sean has picked up on this and gets Rob-Sara to follow him.

Now that he got rid of Patrica, he can pagong the Hunter alliance and he can finally be the alpha leader.

It has nothing to do with her being old or fat. It has to do with Sean using strategy to get ahead and survive.

Whowhere

Friday, March 08, 2002 - 12:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think I agree with the fat and old theory. It was a toss up for me between her and Sarah. The nagging was irritating but so was the laziness and flaunting. But because Sarah seemed to maintain a low-profile compared to Pat who just kept nagging people, she wasn't on top of the hit list. If I had a coin, it would have been tossed.

Like I said, they were both equally irritating, the votes just went more Pat's way. I don't expect Sarah to be around much longer either.

Crazydog

Friday, March 08, 2002 - 12:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good to see that I am not the only one who disagreed with the old and fat theory. Patricia went home because of the nagging, and Grooch, good point about Sean wanting to get rid of Hunter. But what they should do is get rid of Gina so Hunter has less votes and say.

Also, Cablejockey, as with Patricia, I do not believe Kathy will be going because she is old and fat. Kathy will be going because she has managed to transform herself into one of the most bossy and grating Survivors ever. Take one part B.B., throw in one part Debb, add a dash of Diane and you've got Kathy. It has nothing to do with being young and thin.

Mygetaway

Friday, March 08, 2002 - 12:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cat, Thanks for the warning. I guess I won't bother checking my tape for Patricia's interview. Did you know you can watch them at the CBS site, by clicking on The Early Show, and scrolling? If you have an old slow computer like mine, with 56k, it's often blurry, but you can still tell what happened. Just a thought.

Grooch, I agree with your post. I 'm hoping that V wises up though, and dumps Sean.

Resortgirl

Friday, March 08, 2002 - 12:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with you Crazy,Who and Grooch! She is gone because it helps Sean and because she was unbelievably annoying. She is one of those mothers that can't see her "children" as adults and treats grown men and women like they don't have half a brain. There are ways to get things done (like Hunter) and ways to turn people off to anything your suggesting.

I have in the previous Survivors been unhappy about the older womans place on this show. For the most part the early challenges rely on brute strength which certainly puts most middle aged women at a disadvantage. I always wondered why the teams couldn't see the value in an older persons experience. But in Patricia case... she could probably take me down! LOL! So I don't think it had as much to do with her age as it did with the annoyance factor and also to break the Hunter-Gina leadership factor.

Grooch

Friday, March 08, 2002 - 12:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Crazydog, I think it was smart of Sean to go after Patricia first. Rob was undecided who he was going to side with. He said should he vote with Sean he might be left out there looking like a fool. But I think Patricia irritated Rob (they showed him being annoyed with her.) So that's why he went with it. Also, if he didn't, Sarah would have been voted off and he would have lost his "extra" vote.

If Sean had gone after Gina, the others (including Vee) may not have followed him.

It was a very subtle move on Sean's part and the others better watch out.

Crazydog

Friday, March 08, 2002 - 12:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Grooch, no, I agreed with you... I thought it was right of Sean to get rid of Patricia since he was pretty sure Sarah and Rob would vote for her. What I meant was that Sean et al should vote off Gina before Hunter. This makes it clear to Hunter that he is only being kept around for his strength until the merge. Hunter is a big threat. He's likeable, decent looking, strong and diligent. They should get rid of him right before the merge if they can gauge when it will be. If he makes it to the individual immunity challenges he will do well. He is definitely the strongest and most fit of the men there.

Speaking of which, when is the strongest man challenge. In S1, it was Joel v. Rich with some kind of pole thing and weights right? Then in S2, Colby v. ?Mike? with some kind of pole thing and water. What was the strength challenge in S3? Was there one?

Grooch

Friday, March 08, 2002 - 01:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, Crazydog. I thought you meant that they should have gone after Gina first. :)

But in a way, I think Sean should get rid of Hunter the first chance he gets. You never know when MB is going to pull the switch and I am sure MB doesn't want to see Hunter go.

Catfat

Friday, March 08, 2002 - 01:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I had forgotten the part about Patricia and the tool tree, that was pretty rude. Could any of the others have gotten away with that behavior? I doubt it. OK. Maybe I will revise my opinion about the reason she was booted. Or maybe she was kicked off because she had outlived her usefulness.
All in all, this tribe is in such disarray I can't see them winning anything at this point.
Cat

Grooch

Friday, March 08, 2002 - 01:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Crazydog, don't forget that last season they switched 3 members from each team. If Sean wants Hunter gone, he better do it as fast as he can.

Crazydog

Friday, March 08, 2002 - 01:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Right. But when they did the switch, weren't the tribes even in numbers at that point? How can they do a switch if one team has say 5 people and the other 7? Would kind of defeat the purpose. I think a three team split is more likely. Actually I am hoping for this. I am enjoying S4 so much more than S3. I think by this point in S3 I was so bored by all of them. But there needs to be something new each time to keep it fresh.

Moondance

Friday, March 08, 2002 - 01:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree... 3 tribe switch sounds good... there was a report that another camp was errected (feel weird usung that word after all this pee talk) a little earlier in the game than the merge... I will try to find that spoiler.

Resortgirl

Friday, March 08, 2002 - 02:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL moon!

P.S. I used the green smiley to symbolize the pee green of this thread!

Resortgirl

Friday, March 08, 2002 - 02:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That just reminded me of the time my son asked what was for dinner? I said "pea soup" and he looked at me like I was nuts!!

Tksoard

Friday, March 08, 2002 - 02:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
errect! Errect!! Did someone say ERRECT????? are we going to start that again??

Moondance

Friday, March 08, 2002 - 03:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
http://survivorfever.net/tricia_earlyshow.html

Puttergirl

Friday, March 08, 2002 - 03:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wasn't that crazy about Pat, but I SOOOOOOOOOO wanted to see Sara go? What a smug, lazy, irritating, bi+ch!!!!!!!!!!