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Fruitbat

Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 02:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, I agree Car. Who is JP? Becomes an issue could mean some are opposed to openly praying as a group. Vee does that. It may have no bearing on votes or alliances.

Moon? If you like that senario then Gina must go. You cannot have both.

Twiggyish

Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 02:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Rob has changed things. Very true.

Car54

Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 02:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jeff Probst. We have Vee and Sean both of whom have prayed on camera, Neleh who brought scripture as her luxury item.... hmm.

No, Gina could stay and Kathy or Neleh or Paschel could go.... I don't really care.

We just have no real rumors of Gina doing well or staying long...no really thin rumors or tons of bug bites.... and if she is going to school when she moves to the west coast as is rumored, she picked a really small modest school...

I think we need a thread for all the stupid
spoilers this week. This is making me dizzy.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 02:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That would be a great idea actually. If we looked at all the spoilers that were wrong in Australia, Africa and thus far here, I think we would be surprized to see how very little there is to get from them.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 02:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes agreed, one Mar gone, anyone, doesn't matter.

Twiggyish

Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 03:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope Paschel isn't picked, but if he screws up a challenge, it might turn the tide against him. (Just a thought)
He is also a Gabe type person. I can't see him joining an alliance.

Car54

Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 03:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
See I am still stuck on this Underdog thing. Is it Maraamu?

They won last week because of dumb luck....the Rotus couldn't find that last piece of the totem, thus allowing them to win RC, thus allowing them to take everything from Rotu thus giving them ample stuff to signal with. This does not mean they have gotten dramatically better at challenges. The next challenge looks physical- and they have weak little Neleh and Paschel....
If they lose they are losers, not underdogs. Underdogs implies winning against the odds.

And there is the hint that somebody at Rotu wants to throw the challenge anyway... so again it would not mean Maraamu is the Underdog.

Is it Sean/Vee/Rob...who have absolutely NOTHING going for them and are somehow still in the game? Are we counting them out and they are not out? Do they figure out a way to win the challenge even tho John is trying to throw it? Are they the Underdogs?

What the heck does this one mean. It is really bugging me.

Wink

Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 03:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Car I think "Underdogs" refers to all of us on these boards who don't have a freakin clue what is going to happen. Barring that I think it refers to Rob/Sean/Vee who don't have a hope in hell unless they can recruit a Rotu.

Car54

Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 03:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, thanks Wink.

I think I will go play the Trading Spaces drinking game now. pic

Moondance

Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 03:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have a good drinking game... everyone has to take a drink every time Bat changes her deadpool vote!

:)Love you Bat:)

Wink

Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 03:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'll join you.123

Willi

Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 03:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I want in on that one!
:)

Wink

Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 03:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Belly up to the bar Willi. Bring your paint sprayer.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 03:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well pour yourselves another because now I think it is Gina again!

Underdog is definately refering to a group that is outnumbered or handicapped. Whether they win or lose they are the underdog because of a disadvantage of some kind.

My reason for thinking MB is refering to Mar with this: He is wanting us to think Rotu is in flux and they have become one team and there is no definable underdog. He has Rob billed as the Godfather, John as the new leader who is challenged by Rob and clearly leading us away from seeing that team as split along old lines. They are, but he would love to promote a different senario.

Moondance

Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 03:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
*hic cup*

Fruitbat

Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 03:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Or spray each other, your choice.

Twiggyish

Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 03:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'll take a drink, too..LOL

Car54

Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 04:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bat, I have no idea what you just said. Now you have me more confused. pic

Moondance

Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 04:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Shhh... she is winning her own drinking game, Car!

Seamonkey

Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 04:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What about a throwaway line in one of the emails?

That Vee was some kind of crack marksman in the military??

(hey I have to check out the Trading spaces game, but you TS fans, check the Osbournes thread where we have the Osbournes on TS :)

Could the jury's out mean a tie that Paschal ends up breaking?

or.... this would drive you all WILD.. could that be the third twist??? NO JURY??

Fruitbat

Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 06:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Car....

Let me try to say it another way.

Underdog means a disadvantaged group. Not likely to win.

MB does not want us to see the new Rotu as divided. Too much excitement in the possibility that this Sur will be different. He is promoting the new Rotu as united yet full of strife. It would be unlikely that MB would want us to single out the Sean, Rob and Vee as the underdogs.

We are still dealing with 2 teams here. Rotu and Mar. I think the term underdogs refers to one of the teams. There is plenty of time ahead to seperate the players.

Which team? Mar of course.

The question is: Underdogs, does it mean they win or lose. They are the focus to be sure.


Just the theory of the hour is all. :)

Fruitbat

Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 06:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Seamonkey. Maybe it is time for an IC that is marksmanship, like the flaming arrows in Africa.

That points to Vee being up and Rotu winning.

OR the 3rd twist, that the jury has already been formed and the early bootees are part of the jury and the latter are not?

"The Jury is Out" in a real court, means that they are deliberating. So no decision has been reached. This implies, to me, that there is a lot of deliberating going on in ep 8 about who is to go. Nothing more.

Weinermr

Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 07:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
<now probably Weiner is coming in to complain about Kathy going>

LOL Car, you made me laugh! Everyone badmouths my Kathy. I'm used to it. LOL

I'm just going to stick to this week's show, since trying to guess way ahead makes my head hurt right now. To me, it seems obvious Maraamu are the Underdogs. But there is a second group of Underdogs - Rob/Sean/Vee. I think Maraamu wins one more IC though heaven only knows how they pull it off. Then someone from Rotu has to go this week, and I think it will be Robhead.... no Sean..... no Vee.... no John..... no Robhead..... etc.

But seriously, I think it will come down to two factions, and the vote will be either Rob or John. The factions are Rob/Sean/Vee, and John/Tammy/Zoe/Robert. If Rob/Sean/Vee, the Underdogs, can get someone to defect to their faction, then John will be off. Otherwise, it will be Rob. My opinion is that they will try to lure Robert, and it won't work, so Rob will be voted off.

Two sets of Underdogs. Maraamu - winning the IC, and Rob/Sean/Vee, losing the power play, and Rob will be voted off.

But this will leave Sean and Vee to survive until the merge, and both, but especially Vee might be able to disassociate herself from the ugly stain of aligning with Rob, and possibly last awhile longer.

It's "Be Nice To Kathy" week. Don't forget that spoiler that says she'll be gone on April 11. I think that one may be all too true.

Mygetaway

Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 07:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
~~~or.... this would drive you all WILD.. could that be the third twist??? NO JURY?? ~~~
Seamonkey, I was thinking the same exact thing...

Awareinva

Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 07:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought the same thing-- could Mark B. be giving us a true spoiler? The jury is literally out of the game!!!! Wow, that would really be a great twist.

But in cold hard reality terms, I can't figure out how you would pick a winner.... unless you just keep eliminating people and the winner of the final challenge wins it all (kind of like in other reality shows- TAR, Fear Factor, etc.- the winner is the only one left standing after lots of competitions). I'm not sure if that would be better or worse, but it would definitely change the game totally!!!!!!

It wouldn't matter at all if you lied etc. to the others or backstabbed at every turn....you would never be held accountable for your actions as long as you keep winning Immunity (the flip side is you still have to suck up if you are no good at immunity challenges)!

Liking this more and more...I hope it is what happens. Not sure I can wait two more weeks.