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Squaredsc | Friday, March 22, 2002 - 06:58 pm     good post hippyt. next week should be interesting but we all have seen how the previews make big deals about something and it ends up being a letdown. i like john and he could go very far. |
Hippyt | Friday, March 22, 2002 - 08:05 pm     Yeah,squared,they could be discussing lunch!! Last week they showed Kathy sitting down crying in a preview and it wasn't even in the show! Lance,I think you're right on John liked things the way they were. I noticed at first he was always in the back of the group,kinda feeling things out,Bam,he feels comfortable,2nd episode he's all face time!Now he has 3 new people to deal with,and he probably doesn't like that. As for Rob,He's stupid,no question,but is he THAT stupid? LOL,We'll see..... |
Awareinva | Monday, March 25, 2002 - 07:10 am     I think the preview discussion will be about throwing the competition. I can't tell if Gabe and John are close or if they are kind of the leaders of two "old"Rotu groups. They seem close, but everyone on this tribe seems close. Thanks for the summary, Hippyt. |
Crazydog | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 09:17 am     I REALLY dislike this man. I disliked him ever since he started talking about being valuable, and how disappointed he was that others like Kathy found food instead of him. He is definitely the Survivor villain in the tradition of Richard Hatch and Michael Skupin. His whole hysterical "what are you going to do, are we going to keep Rotu together" conversation with Gabe had me laughing since he looked like he was about to cry. He is an extremely paranoid and insecure man. I can only hope that once it gets down to individual immunity, presumably with next week's anticipated merge, that everyone gets rid of him. If they wait to pagong the Marammuus first, then it might be too late. Ex-Rotu could do like what was done to Amber, get rid of him first while they still have a numbers advantage. |
Julieboo | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 09:45 am     I have to say, I really don't dislike him. I think he knows what he wants and he's going for it. Everyone there knows it is a game. I think he is smart to try to make some plans. Though it really coulda backfired on him last night... But he at least knew that was a chance he was taking. I really do like the way this survivor is going. You just never know. |
Julieboo | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 09:46 am     BTW is that a large tattoo on his back or what? What is it? |
Squaredsc | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 11:12 am     julie i was wondering the same thing, at first i thought it was some mud, but i am not sure. i kind of like john but i think he showed his hand a little too soon. and i don't think his comment at tribal council that he's the leader went over well.  |
Julieboo | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 11:30 am     His back kinda looked like it had a lot of dark sand on it. Or is it a weird large tattoo? |
Crazydog | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 11:35 am     I think he's got a small compass-looking tattoo at the top of his back just between his shoulder blades. But that big splotchy thing was most definitely sand or mud. |
Julieboo | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 11:41 am     Good, cuz if it were a tatoo, it would be the stupidest tattoo I ever saw!!!! |
Shakes | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 01:18 pm     Squaredsc...I missed the Q&A at Tribal Council right before the vote...what did Jeff ask and what did John say? Can you give me a re-cap? |
Gina8642 | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 04:09 pm     One thing I've been thinking about with this season and John. MB/CBS has made this new Rotu alliance absolutely, positively clear to us. Very unusual. No vague hints, and ambiguous phrasing, or just hidden altogether (Tina and Colby) allieaces here. So, does this mean John's alliance is doomed to fail?? It is no fun to see one tribe grab all the control and ride it to the end. MB/CBS wants to keep it spicy. Therefore (in my mind) this alliance is doomed to go through rough waters, or fail altogether. If there wasn't alot of plot scenarios on video tape for the editors to mine through for good future shows which will now show the troubles this alliance goes through, it wouldn't have been shown at all. Otherwise, no dramatic tension.... |
Hippyt | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 04:13 pm     Gina,I agree with you totally,not to mention John reaveled it to EVERYONE,and waayyy too early.I'll have fun doing this weeks summary,picking John's paranoia apart.John better hold on,I think he's in for a bumpy ride! And I was wondering about the back thing too.It's either sand,some strange skin ailment,or the ugliest excuse for a tattoo ever! |
Awareinva | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 07:05 pm     We knew about Tom and Lex's alliance pretty early last time around- they swore on their son's names. In S1 the final four alliance was given to us pretty directly, but that was the first go round too. I think ep 6 title "The Underdogs" leads to another Rotu loss, but I just can't see anything much happening to John's alliance until the merge.... then it could get interesting. V and Sean or V and Rob (whichever is left) could team with Gina out of loyalty, giving new Mu an advantage in numbers. It should be really interesting.  |
Seamonkey | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 07:19 pm     I don't think Gina would be open to an "old moo alliance" She clearly is delighted to be with the people she is with and clearly was elated to see Vee, Sean and Rob walk out, and to help get rid of Sarah. So if she makes the merge, and depending on who else comes with her from newmoo, I think she'd ally with them and other oldrotus they had already bonded with. |
Moondance | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 07:38 pm     Last night on the show... they (all the new Moos) were saying "bye bye Sean... bye bye Rob" so I think they will go in together pretty tight after the merge. |
Gina8642 | Sunday, March 31, 2002 - 03:18 pm     Before you read this - it is a possible spoiler. I'm putting it under a spoiler thread, just so those trying to stay away from spoilers won't see it. That said - I've read it before, but now it means something to me. There is an article from back when this season was filming that John is the 7th boot, and Tammy the 8th. I got the following from the SS board - but I first read it in the Tahiti press I think. From: Survivor Reports (survivorreports@bigfoot.com) Subject: SPOILER: 7th and 8th Survivor Bootees Revealed on Cruise Ship! Newsgroups: alt.tv.survivor Date: 2002-02-19 23:42:48 PST Two former employees of Cruise West, a company that owns a fleet of luxury cruise ships, have anonymously revealed the 7th and 8th castaways to be booted off Survivor Marquesas, the 4th installment of the popular U.S. game show. The Explorer class renaissance vessel "Spirit of Oceanus" was chartered by Mark Burnett and his production company SEG for crew use off of Marquesas archipelago during filming in Nuku Hiva, the location for Survivor 4. During the early part of December while these two employees worked aboard the vessel in unspecified positions, they witnessed the 7th and 8th castways who were voted off come aboard the Spirit of Oceanus for a 3-day stay before taking a smaller ship to an unknown location. The 7th person, now identified as John Carroll, came aboard approximately December 6 or 8 and stayed in room 347, which is located on the second deck of the Oceanus, and comes complete with private balcony. The 8th person voted off came onboard a few days later, and has been correctly identified as Tammy Leitner, who was also given an adjacent room on the same deck. Near the end of December, the employees also witnessed a large crate escorted onto the Oceanus by crew personnel and , which was referred and labeled as "Tribal Umete 1-4". This crate was placed in a securely locked and guarded room in the lower deck of Oceanus. This is now believed to be the voting box, or one of 4 voting boxes that were used in final tribal council on Coletta Bay, and possibly contains the final votes for the ultimate winner of the game show. Other crates containing parts of dismantled sets were also escorted and loaded onto the Oceanus and marked for unloading in Manhattan, New York. Maureen Camandona, the Director of Corporate Communications for Cruise West, would neither confirm nor deny the reports due to signed charter contract between Cruise West and SEG. Can this be true? How could this play out from where the game is now? I'm thinking maybe (a)Rob goes next, from a deliberate toss of IC by Rotu. (b)Merge (c)Then Gina and New Maraamu and link up with.... Vee? and maybe Sean too. That would leave New Maraamu in numeric control. Would also explain Gabe having no hard feelings toward John. They spent weeks together in "Loser Lodge". 'Course Gabe doesn't look like he'd hold hard feelings against anyone, for any reason. Even if Maramuu loses in Ep 6, the three remaining can still allign themselves with Vee and maybe Sean. Still giving them numeric advantage. Not sure really if any of this could be true. Just trying to fit it in with what is going on now in the game. - I've been suckered by these articles before. Read somewhere Hunter lost alot of weight - NOT TRUE!! The Tahiti press also had an article about the rotten fish eating. It seemed to indicate the challange was later in the game, and that some contestants had refused to eat the fish - but it was ealy and everyone ate it, only Rob failed at eating five. Some truth (there was a 'rotten fish eating' contest, but the rest was false. |
Lancecrossfire | Sunday, March 31, 2002 - 03:47 pm     Gina, if nothing else it just adds to all the fun. In a few weeks we will find out if it's true. Thanks for posting the story--it makes for interesting reading in any event. I wonder if MB has people on his staff that do nothing more than create red herrings in all the different media. |
Car54 | Sunday, March 31, 2002 - 04:17 pm     This has been around for about 6 weeks.... I think it may have some credence, but there is some discussion that the info about the ship itself is not accurate, which makes it possible that the spoiler itself is not real. Here is a link to the debate at the SS board. cruise ship spoiler |
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