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Hippyt | Wednesday, March 06, 2002 - 03:48 pm     OKay,I have to watch the 1st episode again tonight,and I think after tommorrow night,I'll do a combined report on my impressions of his personality,and alliances,etc. I thought I'd put up a list of stuff that's fairly easy to find elsewhere. Here's John's clothing list: olive,collared,long sleeve shirt bead necklace black v neck t-shirt black or blue shorts/trunks khaki fishing hat(floppy brim) dark running shoes, wear eyeglasses in some vidcaps seen with buff as head scarf,and buff around neck Has Outwit,Outlast,Outplay tattoo on right arm.3 circles intertwined,with artwork representing the first 3 shows. Very distinctive tattoo. I get the idea he's a big fan of the show! Another 'tree-like' tatto on his left upper arm May have a tattoo on his back as well Luxury item-massage oils Okay,I wonder about this,will this stuff keep the no-no's away? If it does,he's smart,if it doesn't he may just be kinda goofy! In an interview on the CBS website he says he's "known as an honest person with integrity." He says he can "be honest and still be competitive." I have yet to see that done very successfully,except maybe Richard. |
Joan | Wednesday, March 06, 2002 - 06:43 pm     Wow, interesting. I didn't notice the tattoo. Any pics of it floating around? |
Hippyt | Wednesday, March 06, 2002 - 06:45 pm     Joan,go to the CBS website,and click his bio. They have video of him showing it and talking about it. |
Hippyt | Wednesday, March 06, 2002 - 07:05 pm     OKay,I'm gonna go ahead and do the first episode,since I just saw it,and I probably won't be able to read the chicken scratch I wrote tommorrow! Once they hit the beach,get the magnifying glass,John is the first one to say,"Let's build a fire." John tries,tries,tries,Kathy freak out,giving orders,never see her trying much though. John tries the wood method,he really,really,really tries! No fire. Next morning-First they go to the waterfall,these guys have it made! John carries home a Big jug of water. Kathy keeps screeching about the water,John loses it,telling her he's tired,he will do it in an hour,but he wants to sit down for a while.(Can you blame him?)Kathy goes to the woods to cry,which gets John pissed, SO,He starts a Fire! Kathy comes back and John makes nice offering her the first drink of the boiling hot water,saying"You lit the fire in my butt,take it." Before the IC all other tribe members are arm in arm,John is in back touching nobody. John lights the first of the two torches winning the IC. OKay,my take on John this first week-He's certainly a worker,and very able to be of great value in challenges,and at the camp.But,he seems to be a little stand-offish. I never saw him interact ,he was always behind everyone else in group shots. I don't know if it's because he's gay,and afraid that might be a problem. But,he needs to open up,and get some friends ,quick! |
Awareinva | Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 06:39 am     I didn't notice the tatoo at all- you would think being a big fan would have taught him that he needs allies now. Of course, he could be very cagey and not want to reveal his alliance too early. Hard to believe if he's a big fan he hasn't already got an alliance! Keep up the great work- I think this superspoiling is great! |
Hippyt | Friday, March 08, 2002 - 08:30 pm     John is ALL over this episode,bear with me,I'll try and get only important thing! OTS,Who else loves the Snickers commercial? Open with the "love tribes" massage,John massaging Neleh. John 1st confessional:"We know food is out there.One of the more creative things that I came up with is my shrimp catcher.But my biggest one is my pig-catcher.If I can catch a pig,I might as well set my table for the final four." John catches ONE shrimp,shows it off to Tammy and gabe saying,"LOOK at all that meat!" They look confused,as they walk away Gabe says,"We only need about 30 more." John's 2nd confessional:"Within the tribe ,you're trying to create a hierarchy,I want to be as high as possible.The highest place I think you can be is to provide food,specifically protein." John's 3rd confessional:"Kathy is border-line abrasive as far as her communication style,and is a little bit condescending when she talks to people." Kathy finds the slimy snails and stuff. John's(OMG)4th confessional:"Inside,it was like a mixed blessing,I was happy to have the protein,I just wish I had found it." He says as he eats a slimy creature,Oh,God ,that was the best ever!" John's 5 confessional:"I'm like,totally stoked it worked! We didn't catch a pig,but it worked. It's like fishing." I notice John is not around when Kathy has her "meeting." This is probably a good thing,I'm fairly sure he was working on the pig-catcher! Challenge time- John at end of tribe,arm in arm with gabe. John,Gabe and Zoe Rule this challenge. It was John's idea to tip the boat over. He,Gabe and Zoe go down and do it. He and Gabe are the front rowers to win the challenge. I do notice at the end of the challenge,he ,Gabe and Zoe doing a three-way high five,they knew they won the challenge. IC- He eats his fish,cheers the team on. Can I finally say something? Here's my take on John.This man is out to WIN. He is not there for Summer vacation,or the "experience." He's sneaky,and he's looking to go far.He's playing it under the radar(off camera),but he's making himself into a valid and useful part of this team. He's not going anywhere anytime soon.I see him,Gabe and Zoe forming the core of Rotu,with possibly Tammy along for the ride. But,his pig catcher is pretty funny! |
Hippyt | Saturday, March 09, 2002 - 02:48 pm     I also got a good look at the tattoo on his left arm last night,but can't find any photos of it anywhere. It's a circle with the number 69 inside ,sitting ontop of the Roman numeral II. I have no idea what this means! |
Catfat | Saturday, March 09, 2002 - 09:04 pm     Hi Hippy, I'm reading your posts!! You are writing good info. It is Saturday night and I don't have a life, so I am posting stuff about a game show broadcast a couple of nights ago. |
Resortgirl | Sunday, March 10, 2002 - 04:51 am     Hippyt, read your post. Great work! |
Awareinva | Sunday, March 10, 2002 - 09:21 am     good job, you could definitely be onto something with John and Zoe linking up. We have not seen them several times when the rest of the group is around. Do you think Neleh is with them? I could totally see Gabe as the "spy" from a J, N, Z, G alliance- hangs out with the others and relays their discussion. LOL But right now he seems tight with Robert and Tammy. |
Moondance | Sunday, March 10, 2002 - 10:58 am     GREAT job Hippy! |
Knightpatti | Sunday, March 10, 2002 - 11:17 am     Thanks Hippy! |
Hippyt | Sunday, March 10, 2002 - 01:21 pm     Thanks everyone,a little whining goes a long way! |
Lancecrossfire | Sunday, March 10, 2002 - 04:48 pm     Thanks for providing this information Hippyt. It seems between Kathy and Jonh, they have gotten the lion's share of the air time for Rotu. John was my second pick behind Gina in a pre-game pick I try and do each time. I agree that John sems to be there to win--at least by ther things he's talking about to the camera. He is mostly thinking about the game--not much else based on what you've said above. I woudl guess that he would like to have Kathy off for another reason besides her some times abrasive approach--she one ups him on ideas that will help the tribe. He seems very competitive in the challenges. While others work to make the team work as a team, John is pushing forward in the area of physical contribution. He is trying to go about this by providing things to the tribe they will feel they can't do without. With as good of team work as they have, it might not be seen as important by them as it is by him. |
Marysafan | Monday, March 11, 2002 - 07:52 am     Correct me if I am wrong...but wasn't it John's idea to turn the boat over. In my opinion that was a brilliant move, and probably saved Rotu from a trip to the dreaded tribal council. I think John has already proven his worth to the tribe...and is hanging tight with everyone (except maybe Krabby Kathy)...not wanting to tip his hand just yet. I think everyone will believe that they can get John on their side...or that John can be beaten so they keep him around...and IF he does catch that pig! LOOK OUT! Set the table...this man is at the banquet! |
Hippyt | Monday, March 11, 2002 - 03:34 pm     Mary,I watched my tape with the the remote in hand,and he said,"Let's tip the boat over." Kid you not. |
Moondance | Monday, March 11, 2002 - 03:38 pm     >>In my opinion that was a brilliant move, and probably saved Rotu from a trip to the dreaded tribal council<< It was a great idea but it was for the reward challenge... not IC |
Marysafan | Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 11:09 am     Thanks Moondance...getting old...memory fails. I need you guys to keep me on track. I skipped Surivor II and II...I am way out of the loop. |
Hippyt | Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 07:54 pm     FYI: I saw some vidcaps at SurvivorFever this week questioning whether a hand was John's. It wasn't,John wears no rings on his fingers. The hand was Sarah's, she wears a ring on her middle right finger.John does wear a toe ring. On to the show--Day 7,Rotu camp Wet,tired,dirty people.Tammy gets a little airtime!! John and Gabe are shown repairing the hut,bumping knuckles,as Gabe says"always." Ominous shark footage,as John is shown going into the water.He lands on a sea urching,gets alot of needles in his hand.Pain,Pain,John goes back to shore yelling for someone to pee on his hand,he's actually jumping up and down like he needs to pee. Kathy takes care of it after Paschal weirds out and runs back to America.John says "Thank You." What else would you say to someone who just peed on your hand? Rotu hauling in bamboo,Oopps,Roberts foot gets sliced off.John fixes it,saying,"Dude,just start crying like I did."Robert will not cry. John does a good job,and toots his own horn a little,"I am a registered nurse,and everyone here has confidence I know what to do when something bad happens. Rotu raft building-Hi it's me,I think this is the best teamwork of ANY Suvivor tribe .Everyone working,nobody whining. John,goes back in the water,a giant eel takes his arm off.It's a bad day for Rotu.Tammy gets a little more airtime,"He was panicked,he was on the verge of tears..." John says he needs to sit down.John worries he won't be able to compete without an arm,and he may be at risk. Reward challenge- they win,everything is peachy in Rotu-ville.I do find it interesting Robert and John both participate,and do a very good job. Immunity- John in back,in middle of Zoe and Robert arm in arm.Where did John get that new arm?nevermind.. John sits this one out,and we all know what happens next. Okay,me again,I know ,but it gets really boring! My take on John this week,he's definitely tough!The sea urchin things stop hurting,but that cracked fingernail hurts like a b**tch!! I know I had my finger run over by a Volvo.(don't ask)With the whole twist thing in question,who knows what will happen to John? He speaks his mind,and if he gets sent to the Maronmus,he may be in trouble.I'm so confused!!!! |
Moondance | Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 08:11 pm     >I had my finger run over by a Volvo< I won't ask but OMG Thanks for the John update! |
Awareinva | Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 08:41 pm     LOL-- I love it!!! It is very late here in VA and I have had to clap my hands over my mouth to avoid waking the kidlets!! I like everyone on Rotu- and I totally agree about the team work.... no comparison to the Moronmu!! |
Judy | Friday, March 15, 2002 - 05:34 am     Great job Hippyt! Maybe the one-armed-man will win |
Hippyt | Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 05:38 pm     Thanks guys,I've been out of town,lots of catch-up reading to do.... |
Hippyt | Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 06:46 pm     Episode4 Morning after last tribal council and open to John giving Neleh a "Big Barbie ponytail."Everyone is very happy and proud. John and Tammy sitting together on a log. Tammy talks about how each day just gets better.Gabe walks up from behind and puts his hands on both of their shoulders. "Chef"John discovers toasted coconut,according to Kathy. He hands some out to everyone after she prepares it. The Twist-Team Happy approaches,Team Sad is there too. John between Robert and Gabe. I just LOVE the shocked faces during this scene! John get Rotu and hugs Zoe and Gabe. Vee is next. I notice when Tammy gets Rotu,John throws her a kissy face. They all return to camp,and John offers them some"Rotu popcorn." His nickname is "Johnny Pots and Pans." John directing Rob on how they need to dig a new pit for the pit catcher.Rob throws a stick down at the end of the shot.He's tired!!!!waaaaa John sits out IC for second week in a row. OKay,John wasn't in this show much. I did find out he's the "Chef." Makes perfect sense,he wanted to provide food to secure an important spot,when that didn't happen,he takes on cooking duties a la Keith from S2. Previews for next week: John and Gabe are shown in a confrontation. John says to Gabe,"Are we staying tight? Is that the deal? Are we trying to put Rotu back together?" There are 3 theories floating around out there about what is actually going on here: 1)Rotu is cracking,somehow Rob and/or Sean has made good with some members of Rotu(which would have to include Gabe),and now some Rotu members want to keep them around. Personally,this one cracks me up!There is just no way this can be it! Rotu is too smart to be taken in by those 2 idiots. 2) John is reprimanding Gabe for getting all gung-ho and winning last weeks challenge,instead of throwing it. This makes a bit more sense,but I don't think it fits what he says all that well. 3)John is explaining to Gabe why they need to throw this weeks challenge,and Gabe has balked at it a bit. This makes sense to me. Gabe is honest and competitive,he's doesn't seem like the type that would like to throw a challenge(memories of Ethan).But I do think that he'll agree to it,or sit it out. Next week we lose innocence and one Rotu! |
Lancecrossfire | Friday, March 22, 2002 - 06:21 pm     Hippyt--great summary! I don't get a good sense at all about which direction to go for what the John/Gabe thing is about. I think you've come up with some very good possibilities though. John seems to be competitive, although less interested in trying to make the change work. I think he liked the way things were (nothing solid to back this up--just a hunch). I wonder if Rob can hold back from making a comment about being gay. I hope he can--I see that being a potential bad spot for Rob to put himself into. I think John will be a factor in next week's challenges. |
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