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C1mag

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 05:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Then again there could be a little romance between Paschal and John. :)

I've officially allowed every senario! hahahaha!

God I love this show!

Car54

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 07:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Guys... there is no romance.... that MB interview was a while ago...it was S&R they are gone.

Peas in a Pod...just alike.... get it? Who are the ones who are just alike... could be way more than 2 lots of peas in one pod!

Llkoolaid

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 08:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This may just be me and I could be way of base here but I have a feeling about Zoe that she has more interest in a romance with Tammy or one of the other women than with Robert. It is just a feeling I get from her and not really based on anything I have seen. Does anyone else have this feeling or am I just way out in left field.

Hippyt

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 09:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with Car54,there is no more romance. It's time to play the game!
Isn't Neleh's nickname sweet pea??? And she's angry about all the lying. And who would be in a pod with her,but her beloved judge? I think two peas in a pod could refer to Neleh and Paschal take charge next week,and does a little alliance of their own,say with Sean,Kathy,and possibly Vee.

Mygetaway

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 10:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
(posted by Moon in another thread, taken from Tammy's comments on CBS page)
I'm gonna try and play the game as smart as I can. I feel like I've formed, you know, bonds or alliances, or whatever you wanna call them with the right people, those five people. And that's gonna take me into the final five

Is Tammy saying that V is in that alliance? She would be the 5th person, right? If I were V, I'd probably jump on that, and then hope for IM on the last 5 vote. What would be great, is for them to decide to oust John, and form an all girl alliance..LOL That would be a new twist... J/K

Seamonkey

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 11:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I saw that bit about the 5 people.. now that could be 5 total or 5 plus Tammy.. hmmm

As for Vee voting out Rob.. Kathy couldn't expect anyone to go with her, she just lashed out at Zoe all by herself. odd.

Mygetaway

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 11:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If this is in another thread somewhere, I apologize.. I'm trying to play catch up tonight, and it's getting late ..

So... Did Kathy hang herself, or will she and Zoe work it out?
I agree with whoever said (somewhere) that Kathy's vote against Zoe was an emotional one. I think she had hurt feelings, and wasn't thinking about the game at that point in time. She wanted Zoe to know that she doesn't trust her, or was hurt by her. If she's next to go, I'm sure that she might list that vote as a regret. JMO of course...
It's also not like the vote hurt Zoe any, since prior votes won't count.
BUT, Kathy could be a threat, even more so than Sean, so will she be the next target? Will Neleh and Pappy try and protect her, before following John's leads?

Awareinva

Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 03:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wonder..... Sean seems to be the logical vote and since he threw a vote at John he will probably be the next to go (like Lex- I'm sure John hated to see those votes against him). John says that Rob broke the agreement- but a truly fair person would say Sean didn't make that decision and shouldn't be punished for it. But I think John was probably looking very very hard for a reason to bust up the agreement (he really really disliked Rob).

But it does leave a small doubt that Kathy could be targeted, especially coupled with the vote she threw at Zoe. She either isn't in a group with the old Rotu or didn't want to lie about not voting for Rob.

There is so much going on behind the scenes- on the surface Kathy shouldn't stick with Rotu or she leaves a fifth at best. But maybe the alliance of J/R/T/Z was just because K/N/P were gone. They could do some shifting now they are merged.

I think I am going with the safe bet of Sean, but literally anything could happen....it's making this season way more interesting than the usual no questions asked "Pagonging".

Car54

Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 04:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Next week is "Jury is out", right? And we do see Neleh in the preview being frustrated... sounds like maybe she and Paschel get a little more air time finally.

Seems to me Vee is the pivotal player here. Last week by voting Rob she showed she is a free agent..not technically part of J/Z/T/R, and not part of old/new Maraaamu.

If P/N/S/K pull it together and go head to head against J/Z/T/R, it looks like Vee is pivotal. Kathy and Vee are the two who seem most likely to leap one way or another... if old Rotu was smart, they would secure one or the other. Vee wants security, but she actually has more in common with the new Maraaamu than old Rotu.

The other issue that is questionable is Kathy confronting Zoe...somehow I don't think Zoe is someone who will react like Lex did to Teresa's vote, but they clearly have a discussion... somehow it looks like they do confront their issues, but somehow I think this is one of the things that is shown in the preview and turns out to not be a big deal. Look how the skeleton thing was hyped and it was 2 minutes, then never mentioned again.

Hippyt

Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 06:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm really thinking Kathy is sooo paranoid,she's not going to trust any of the Old Rotu,no matter what anyone says. And,she just might be annoying enough to get herself voted out because of it.

Urgrace

Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 07:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey the CBS site said that someone would win a "voyage" under the sea. Then there's the 'peas in a pod' title.. Suppose Sweet Pea wins the reward challenge and takes Paschal with her and it turns out to be one of those sea pods you sit in like a submarine?

<Of course this may be moot if it is for two different episodes...>

Hippyt

Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 08:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Uh,sorry Urgrace, the next episode is "Jury's Out." "Peas in a Pod" is the one for next week. Made as much sense as anything else though. CBS loves to throw that kind of stuff at us!
I do think Paschal either wins reward,or gets to tag along. Not only from the title,but I've seen vidcaps where his hair is totally combed,and he looks CLEAN!

Llkoolaid

Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 09:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe the jury is out means that P/N/S/K align against J/Z/R/T and Vee is being asked to join both groups and has to decide where her best interest lie. We can see it is obviously with Sean but can she?

Fruitbat

Sunday, April 14, 2002 - 07:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Urgrace that is an excellent idea. Don't know that they have them for tourism though. I know in Mass they are used for study and too small to take passengers. Scuba diving could be the reward but that takes quite a bit of time for instruction.

Peas in a pod could be Paschall and Neleh. The title simply refering to a focus on their bond.

OK, so Sean is the logical vote. If he wins IC, which is a distinct possiblity, *who* next is the question.

Senario One: Tammy, Zoe, John, Robert and Vee seem to be the 5 in the alliance to which Tammy refers. Then, John is safe.

Kathy, Neleh, Paschall, and Sean are on the block. So I see Kathy is the logical choice should Sean win IC.

Senario Two: A question mark is Vee. She vows to stick with Sean. She is smart, in this to win and I can easily see her changing sides. Her vote for Rob illustrates she is playing as an individual with her eye on the prize. This would mean John is in danger.

Over analyzing has not proven profitable. Senaro two would be fun to watch but I just cannot see Neleh and Paschall in a voting block with Sean. I think they trust that they are together with their old tribe mates.

All arrows are pointing to Sean or Kathy.

Bidasea

Sunday, April 14, 2002 - 09:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
On all of the spoiler boards I've read, they seem to think that the two P's. Paschall, and Sweetpea, will win the reward challenge, and go under the sea in a little submarine..Next week, the jury is out sounds like it is the first jury member is voted out of the tribe..I'm wondering if anyone will actually give away im. to another player...There is some speculation that Zoe wins, and gives im. to Kathy as a show of friendship..I think Vee is going with the alliance that can help her the most..I hope she doesn't stick with Sean, cause he has said that he doesn't trust her at all, but that was when his buddy Rob was still there.

Car54

Sunday, April 14, 2002 - 09:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Remember, N&P&Vee and Sean DO have strong religion in common...maybe that can help them over come their differences.

Fruitbat

Sunday, April 14, 2002 - 10:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I would love that Car. It seems the most interesting developement to watch.

Moondance

Sunday, April 14, 2002 - 10:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
MB said religion would play a strong force in the game...

Car54

Sunday, April 14, 2002 - 11:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I want it to happen but MB lies...he lies like a rug..... so it probably won't!

I think a lot hinges on the conversation between Kathy and Zoe...if they split and don't make it up, that puts Kathy with the Moos... and makes Vee very valuable...she is gonna be very popular or unpopular!

Whoami

Sunday, April 14, 2002 - 11:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually, though I'd rather see Kathy, Paschal and Neleh making it further, it would be fun to see J/Z/T/R/V pick them off and then turn on each other. I'm sure John would be ultra confident with his "I'm in charge" crap. Then I'd love to see his surprise when the other four vote him off first chance! His getting "betrayed" would be much more fun to watch than him just being one-upped by the other alliance.

Nanya

Sunday, April 14, 2002 - 12:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
llkool, why do you think that Vee's best shot is with Sean? It seemed to me that she had tried to distance herself from him because he seemed too confrontational.....TOO MUCH DRAMA!
I'll say it again!! The women should form an alliance and get rid of J/S/R/P in that order. That's my

Yuhuru

Sunday, April 14, 2002 - 12:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I had a new thought today about Kathy's vote. Now I don't think it was emotional. If she truly wants to play with integrity, and keep her chances alive of staying in the game. She could have done the right thing.

She made an agreement with Rob. So she couldn't vote him out. John gave up during the immunity challenge IMO and he seems to be the one calling the shots. So she couldn't vote for him.


She totally confused about who or what she can trust. Gina told her awful things about S/V/R, but after meeting Rob those things didn't seem to be true. She couldn't vote for N/P because they keep her over at Maraamu. Zoe is the only one that she could justifiably vote for. I think that she and Zoe make up. ZOe looked so sickly when she told that lie. She'll forgive out of guilt.

What does this all mean? I dunno. They (J/R/Z/T) may still need to boot her over Sean because she's a threat and she's unpredictable. then again, how can John vote out the woman who peed on his hand?

Moondance

Sunday, April 14, 2002 - 12:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
John will go for someone who DID vote for him not someone who he THINKS might vote for him. Sean is still on the chopping block more than any other.

Yuhuru

Sunday, April 14, 2002 - 12:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good idea Nanya on the women's alliance. Definetly leave the old, weak guy for last. I don't think it'll happen. In that case, which woman would be the sole survivor?

Yuhuru

Sunday, April 14, 2002 - 12:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
In the deadpool, I picked Sean to go, but now I'm having second thoughts. I'd be inclined to let the Sean stick around out of fear of someone else (not that it's a smart idea).