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Crazydog

Monday, March 18, 2002 - 08:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As I said in the Sarah spoiler thread, I think Rotu will kick out the laziest or most annoying. That's Sean. It gets down to individual immunity challenges, and Sean would be a much bigger threat than Gina or Sarah.

Judy

Monday, March 18, 2002 - 09:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That's a good point too crazydog.
My lil brain is hurting from trying to figure this out!!!
Why does it have to make me so crazy??!

Hippyt

Monday, March 18, 2002 - 09:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You the bomb Judy!!!!! I would never abuse. We'll be number 1 and 2 in The Amazing Game this week for sure.....yeah okay,my brain kinda hurts too

Fruitbat

Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 04:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
After a nights sleep and a fresh outlook......

I think we can safely say there is no merge. Clues do not compute for that senario.

Switch? Maybe but the numbers are sqewed for that.

I am going with the teams staying as they are. I am not so sure Mar cannot win IC. It has been close and I anticipate a maze, intelligence, or SOS this time. Anyone can win that. Mar will pull together some unity this week and come in stronger. But will they?

Kathy seems too obvious a choice for Rotu. But on the other hand we have not really seen much of anyone else causing disention. For this reason I think they win again.

I am leaning toward Gina gone this week.

Merlin

Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 04:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
And if I were Hunter, I would be negotiating with someone behind the scenes to get Gina voted out also. It would be nice to spend some time with her on that island without it being televised.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 05:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think they did. :)

Seamonkey

Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 03:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
From survivor email.. says camps plural.. hmm


The castaways are faced with their greatest challenge yet when circumstances force them to work harder to keep up their camps - and their relationships with each other

Kep421

Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 05:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
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Hippyt

Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 06:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Fruit,I'm tending to agree with you on all of it. I just don't buy the merge or switching,it seems too easy a way out to save Moronmuu!
I think it'll be either Gina or Kathy. But,I honestly don't see how the fruitloops can win anything at this point!The end is near for Moronmuu!
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Fruitbat

Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 04:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The most interesting senario would be for them to remain in teams as long as possible, maybe even until Mar is wiped out. Merge = Pagonging and that is as dull as it gets.

When Rotu is faced with dividing we will see some interesting stuff.

MB has to create something different if his baby is to continue with high ratings. I am still holding onto no merge. (majenta buff, I know.....red herring? wouldn't put it past him)

Car54

Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 04:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
IMO, the most telling argument for a Twist or some other rule change is the lack of information this week.
Every week we have vidcaps of challenges, etc to speculate on, but this week the only thing we have is the incessant 30 second preview CBS has been running.

That seems odd to me, and I think the lack of information is in itself a clue that MB is trying to feed the rumors that something BIG is going to happen. I think now, with the "first 10 minutes" advertising, it better be something significant or he is going to have some really irritated viewers...
I don't think we get mad when he boings us...things like Hunter's oust... we kinda like being surprised, but if NOTHING major happens, I think he is going to lose credibility.

I have faith in the great and powerful Mark.

Judy

Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 05:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
For me the most telling argument for a twist/merge is the "Don't miss the 1st 10 Minutes!!"
Same exact thing they did last season with the switch.
Except this season it will be a merge and a much bigger jury.
That's just me gut talkin'

Twiggyish

Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 06:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yup, Bat!! There's a twist here for sure. I smell a herring, too.(Something fishy)

Fruitbat

Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 06:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The clues do not point to a merge or switch. Could it be that one camp relocates next to the other?

Last season we knew about the switch ahead of time. Nothing out there about that now. It was to MB's advantage to let the switch be known to the viewers. Makes more people tune in with anticipation as to how it will unfold.

If he is too cryptic the casual viewer is not inticed. WE are a sure bet, trailers are to snag the channel hoppers. I don't think that MB is out to just confuse the fans.

Seamonkey

Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 08:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
On the Early Show (and yeah, I should have taped it but.. just stared in amazement as Bryant read the standard upside down teaser but then he said

".... daunting physical challenge"

Then they showed a team getting treemail that contained a wooden disc (slice of a tree?) with words on it about the challenge which evidently involves being spun or something.. Rob said you must have to stand on a disc and stay on..

Moondance

Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 09:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Link to SS for vid caps

Weinermr

Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 09:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm not sure that the timing of the merge controls the size of the jury. They can set the jury size at any number, regardless of when they merge into one tribe. They can be as arbitrary as they want about that. They will simply decide how large they want the jury to be, and announce at the appropriate Tribal Council that the jury begins with that night's eviction.

Car54

Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 09:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Boy, if you were the first 3 people booted and everyone else got on the jury, wouldn't you feel crappy?

Micknrc

Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 09:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
from ET online

Survivor Sneak! Week Four

March 20, 2002

Check out Survival Central here!
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March Madness moves "Survivor: Marquesas" to Wednesday night again this week as the Rotu and Maraamu tribes square off en route to determining the lucky sole survivor.

In tonight's show -- "The Winds Twist" -- the 13 remaining survivors are presented with an unforeseen challenge. Neither executive producer MARK BURNETT nor CBS is saying exactly what that twist is, but they did reveal that the tenacious tribes will have to work even harder to preserve their alliances.

If you recall on "Survivor: Africa," the time came when the tribes were forced to swap members. That could be the mysterious "twist."

Earlier this year at a press conference following the wrap-up of "Survivor: Africa," Burnett told reporters, "It's incumbent upon me to not do the same-old, same-old. You're either going forward or going backwards. So I want to go forward, and it's risky."

And the Rotu and Maraamu tribes will have to endure whatever risk Mark has dreamed up. To date, the Rotu haven't lost a single survivor, but the Maraamu have lost three. So, a swap might really shake things up.

Speaking of taking risks, caution gets thrown to the Tahitian trade winds tonight when certain tribe members, who can't hold their tongues, decide to take charge of their own island destinies.

That may not be a smart move. Both HUNTER and PATRICIA tried to assume leadership roles and were voted off for their efforts.

Tune in to CBS tonight to see who will be the fourth survivor to take the walk of shame. And don't miss ET's inside glimpse on tonight's show.

Fruitbat

Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 09:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
hmmmmmmmmm the comment about usidedown paired with daunting physical challenge, on top of receiving the disk of a tree may imply the endurace is hanging upsidedown rather than standing on a stump.

Fruitbat

Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 10:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sounds like Sean and Rob may butt heads.

Sabbatia

Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 10:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd love it if they did what was mentioned on another board and have two leaders that have to pick their new teams like we did in school. Can you imagine how that would stir the pot? People that didn't get picked till last would be angry, and people that ended up with the old non working folks would be angry. It could definately shake up the alliances that are already formed.

Seamonkey

Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 10:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
and may they knock each other out :)

Moondance

Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 10:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Amen MsMonkey!

Car54

Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 10:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the upside down thing is the disk challenge. I think the reward might be to get to pick a new tribe lineup.

Moondance

Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 10:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am thinking along that line too Car:)

Fruitbat

Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 10:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes I agree. A challenge is involved in new teams forming. I have thought this for awhile. I guess this must be the week.

Fanny

Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 10:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fruitbat...how funny...."Rob and Sean may butt heads". Rob and Sean ARE butt heads!!!

Moondance

Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 10:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I missed you Fanny!

Fanny

Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 11:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Moon! I tend to pop up when I know I'm gonna fry some brain cells while working! So I come here instead. Good work ethic, huh?

Judy

Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 01:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OK After that I am leaning towards a 'restructure' of the tribes rather than a merge.
My bootee pick stays the same though- Sara

Gina8642

Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 03:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I like what one said on SS board. Just a random reforming of the tribes. The wheel spins round, and where it points when it stops is the cast members new tribal affiliation. BAAM! That would fit the definition of throwing your fates to the winds wouldn't it?

'Course, I also like the idea that some will have to pick and choose in Rotu. If that happens we will finally get some hints at who is allied with whom.....

I hope this ep isn't a cop out and that it at least sorta lives up to its hype......


1 HOUR.......

Webkitty

Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 04:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Car and Sabbitia are on to something.

Yep, I think that's what it is.