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Webkitty

Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 12:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I know, you all make sense in everything your saying......but.....
Watch from now on, if Gina makes it to the merge, see how much she is featured in each episode, even if a little.
If someone else starts to get more airtime, I might change my mind, but for right now, I'm stickn to my theory!

Wink

Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 12:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Webkitty don't you think Rob has had almost as much face time? He has been critical to every vote.

Moondance

Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 12:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh I agree woth you an your Gina theroy! I LOVE Gina and hope that happens... I was just explaining my John theroy:)

Webkitty

Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 12:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wink, your right, he has been critical to every vote and he has had the most face time.

Maybe its because of the story line with the "kids" in Africa, the same thing here. I'm just thinking the dynamic duo HAS to be great for ratings.
If I were MB I would play it for all its worth. I'm just saying...........

Wink

Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 12:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I would be happy to see Gina make it much farther as well. Somehow Rob seems more cunning than the mallrats because he has managed to reveal his strategy, for the most part, only in confessionals. And if memory serves(that's debatable) the mall rats only strategy was to sleep, eat and play much like Sarah.

Hippyt

Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 12:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've been thinking all week it would be Rob or Sean.This morning I woke up,and thought,It's Gina!!!
I think the IC might be trivia,and Vee and Sean will be participating.They might not like John's grand plan,another Rotu victory.

Webkitty

Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 12:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Moon! I know what your saying......Zoe and Tammy make a good team, and, they haven't had any injuries, it makes them contenders.

John and Robert have been injured, that has to be a factor, especially in the IIC. That first one when the tribes merge is a killer!

Gina8642

Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 03:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Has anyone considered that the Vid Caps being shown around this week really are the Immunity Challange and not the RC?

Earlier in the week I saw a post that since (a) Maraamu finds out about Gabe in one Vid shot and (b) then is dressed the same for the competition - that therefore (c) the relay race must be RC.

I just saw another possibilty that was written up.

Maybe the 'looks of surprise' on the Maraamu faces are not related to the Gabe boot, but rather to the 'Controversy' and 'split second timing' being hyped in the promos. If true (say the Mar's are suprised to find Rotu disqualified in the challange, or vice versa), then we don't know which challange the vid caps are from.

I'm pretty sure the promos have only shown a single challange. But we can't be sure which challange it really is.

I saw another convincing post which noticed that Gina's shirt is alot darker in the aformentioned vid cap shot where she and Kathy 'react' to something than in the vid caps of her racing to the beach with the paddle. The post argued that she must be wet/damp from the challange - (from being in the water rowing). Therefore that shot again would be after the relay challange.

hmmm.....

Car54

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 11:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Here are the other boards picks so far:

Surviivor.com Members
RC- Rotu
IC - Maraamu
boot - Rob
Record for Survivor 4 - 1/5

SurvivorBlows Members
IC - Maraamu
boot - Gina
Record for Survivor 4 - 2/5

EZ Board Members
boot - Gina
Record for Survivor 4 - 1/5

True Dork Times
RC- Maraamu
IC - Rotu
boot - Gina
Record for Survivor 4 - 4/5

Voted Off
IC -
boot - Gina
Record for Survivor 4 - 2.5/5

Webkitty

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 11:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
There goes my theory!

Car54

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 03:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
From MadBananaRush at the SS board:

These summaries were sent out to the CBS affiliates:

CBS Newspath Updates
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I'll add more as they come in.


www.newspath.cbs.com/cgi-bin/getstory.cgi?../html/getstory.html|AWI20020404006219|Query%20Results

1) ^NN-NA068-TIE-IN'Survivor'CLIPS
Feed(s)
04/04/2002 - 10NA

Date: 04/04/2002
Story Slug: TIE-IN
Title: 'Survivor' CLIPS
Dateline: Undated
Format: natsnd
Length: 2:46
Source: CBS ENT

Handle: NATL20020404082

Information:
ROB "THE GODFATHER" MARIANO REFUSES TO ACCEPT DEFEAT,
ON "SURVIVOR: MARQUESAS," APRIL 4

"The Underdogs" -- Certain members of the old Maraamu tribe set their sights on
reorganizing the loyalties of the original Rotu tribe, on SURVIVOR: MARQUESAS,
Thursday, April 4 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

Despite the disadvantage the three old Maraamu members (Rob, Sean and Vecepia)
have at the new Rotu, Rob vows to take control of the situation and sets his sig
ts on booting Rotu's self-proclaimed leader.

Meanwhile, as the new Maraamu continue to bond, Gina hopes old tribe loyalties aúHare shocked to see that their former tribe voted out Gabriel at the last
tribal council.

And the sixth person is evicted.

SURVIVOR: MARQUESAS is produced by SEG, Inc. Mark Burnett is the executive
producer.

For more detailed information on SURVIVOR: MARQUESAS, log on to
www.cbs.com/survivor. To learn more about Nuku Hiva and the Marquesas Islands,
log on to http://www.gototahiti.com.
BOOTED SURVIVORS: 1/Peter Harkey; 2/Patricia Jackson; 3/Hunter Ellis; 4/Sarah
Jones; 5/Gabriel Cade

RATING: To Be Announced

2) Addition at 10.40am

Meanwhile, as the new Maraamu continue to bond, Gina hopes old tribe loyalties
are beginning to dissolve after the old Rotu members (Kathy, Neleh and Paschal)
are shocked to see that their former tribe voted out Gabriel at the last tribal
council.

Gina8642

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 03:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Acme Brain Trust

RC - Rotu
IC - Rotu
Boot - Gina

Record - not sure - but really good.

I keep hearing about this site and have only checked their perdictions post show before. Today I made a point of looking for it. The site was finally update with the perdiction at 4:30 EST.

Car54

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 04:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Access Hollywood just showed the RC...it is the relay with them rowing...the reward is food...I think it is product placement time!

Webkitty

Friday, April 05, 2002 - 06:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Now that my theory of Gina being the Ultimate Survivor has been blown out of the water, I am going to plunge fearlessly on and give my NEXT prediction.

Keeping with my theory, I'm going to say Kathy/Rob will duke in out in the end.

Even though Sean has had alot of "face time" I can't see him doing well enough in the individual immunity challanges to make it to the end.

Kathy has sucked at being the team leader in challanges, but I think she might do better on indivual ones.

Rob showed last night when he wants something bad enough he can hall a$$. He's in this to WIN.

John, ummm, he wants it bad too...

Tammy and Zoe are strong competitors and could do well in the IIC, but they have had virtually no camera time.......

I can't see Vee winning enough IIC to advance to the final two.

Pacal, nope, Robert, I don't see it. Nela, no....

Webkitty

Friday, April 05, 2002 - 06:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wait, I just thought of something.

I thought "Jury's Out" was THIS weeks title?
Is it for next week?
If so, I might have to change my prediction to Kathy/John. I think they are on the same wave length. When the tribes merge, she might join with John to spearhead Rob's ousting.
Someone let me know for sure? Need coffee, be back later.

Gina8642

Friday, April 05, 2002 - 02:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
WebKitty,

As I understand it:

Ep 5 (yesterday) was "The Underdogs".

Ep 6 (next week) is "True Lies".

Ep 7 (week after) is "Jury's out.

If MB/CBS does it the same way as other seasons, the person booted next week will not be on the Jury. The remaining nine will be on the Jury.

My assumption is the "Jury" title refers to the fact that all the remaining players are part of the jury.

I'm also assuming that there will be some double meaning as well (like most good titles.) The secondary meaning may refer to Pascal in some way. Or maybe just refer to a tough to call vote. With nine people remaining, the vote in Ep 7 cannot tie, the closest it can be is 4-5.

Wink

Friday, April 05, 2002 - 02:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gina couldn't it be 3-3-3?

Car54

Friday, April 05, 2002 - 02:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Fiendishly clever, Wink! pic

Gina8642

Friday, April 05, 2002 - 02:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You are right Wink.

Hmmmm.......

Gina8642

Friday, April 05, 2002 - 05:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
BTW -

What happened to not providing any food? In S3 it really bugged me that Lex kept getting all the food. I thought this time it would be much more level because there would be no food.

I assumed they meant as a reward too. Thinking back now, they did offer food or blankets once. But since the tribe choose blankets I didn't think anything of it.

Maybe food for all at the merge would be ok, because that doesn't favor one person, or one tribe.

I think this game would be alot more fair if they did not offer food as a reward, unless offered to all.

___________________________________________

BTW #2

One other thing about food and Survivor I recently found out.

I've never understood why the players don't hoard food individually? Or why alliances don't keep it away from other players they don't like? I know I grew up in a big family - we didn't share well - it was every child for her/himself. Sometimes food was hidden in the bedroom etc.

Now, I know, some have been accused (Kel and Clarence) but it has never really been a pervasive part of the game. This never made sense to me. Not like human nature at all. We are hoarders at heart.

The answer? I read some speculation before ep. 5 about what the 'controvery' being hyped was. One person said there is a rule against not sharing food. (He/she was speculating that someone broke this rule and got kicked off the show.) This rule makes the players' actions make so much more sense to me. Because I can't believe MB has found 4x16 people, and not one had thought of keeping his or her own stash of food.

This rule wasn't stated as speculation. It was stated like it was a fact, already known.

Llkoolaid

Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 07:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I put this in the wrong thread so I have copied and pasted it here. I am getting good at that.

I really think John is going but now I don't know because:
Everyone seems to think Kathy and Rob go off on a trek possibly to check out a new
camp. They could be the unlikely pair to form an alliance.
The part about Kathy learning some kind of truth or news that she doesn't like could
be that she aligned with Rob and then Paschal and Neleh tell her they are siding with
John to vote Rob off.
I was so sure it was John going but now I am wondering. It doesn't pay me to think,
my brain hurts from not being used to all this exercise.

Car54

Sunday, April 07, 2002 - 05:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
From CBS site:
The rules of SURVIVOR are designed not only to uphold the premise of the show, but also to promote the safety of all Survivors and crew members. The prize for following all these rules and making it to the very end is one million dollars, but consolation cash prizes will be awarded to the other Survivors, based on their order of elimination. The consolation prizes will range from approximately $2,500 for the first person voted off the island, to approximately $100,000 for the runner-up.

Several actions will result in immediate elimination from the contest and expulsion from Marquesas, as well as forfeiture of any prize. If you were one of the Survivors, you wouldn't want to do any of these things:

Try to conspire to share the prize. The million dollars may be won by one and only one individual. Survivors are prohibited from sharing or making any agreement to share all or any portion of the prize.
Enter the production area. The area designated for the production crew is strictly off-limits to the Survivors.
Break the law. Even though they are stranded on a remote Marquesan island, the Survivors will still be held to U.S. law, as well as local law. Any breach of those laws is against the contest rules.
Miss a Tribal Council or a challenge. Tribal Council meetings are mandatory for all Survivors, and everyone is required to vote. In addition, sitting out of a challenge that requires the participation of all Survivors is not allowed.
Damage the Marquesan environment. Only designated fruits, vegetables, and animals are allowed to be harvested as food. In addition, the Survivors may not leave litter or any other debris on the site, and they will be obliged to give full consideration to the ecological impact of everything they do in Marquesas.
Act up. Any misconduct is against the rules, including but not limited to stealing or misappropriating food, harming other Survivors or crew members, and acts of violence.

Gina8642

Monday, April 08, 2002 - 07:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So, I was thinking about Immunity Challange.

The Merge episode has generally favored an endurance challange:

S1 - Don't remember

S2 - Log standing

S3 - Log standing with raised arm (such unique new ideas MB/CBS comes up with)


Women seem to be favored in these contests.

That said, I'm thinking Neleh, Vee and Tammy are strong contenders for immunity. Especially Neleh and Vee. Tammy just seems more an athlete's athlete - more likely to not be able to hold still for long periods.

Seamonkey

Monday, April 08, 2002 - 07:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Clarence would have won if he hadn't made that deal..

I think Rob would probably do very well at that too.. could be wrong. Tina also probably would have won if she didn't jump off for keith. (or for her strategy).

Fruitbat

Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 06:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dang, I put my logic for John going in the True Lies thread. Too many threads discussing this.

Interesting that Colby and Tina did not get disqualified by promising to buy each other a Harley. That is clearly pushing the rules. It certainly was a perk for taking each other to the end. Keith didn't have a chance.

Gina, I agree with your take on endurance IC's

It is logical that no one would hoard food in the chance it would be discovered. That is certainly reason to boot someone.

I am still thinking The Jury is Out is literal translation of what that expression means. One alliance is divided in who they want to vote out and a lot of deliberating is going on.