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Squaredsc

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 05:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
well the merge should be interesting, three mar's who could be peeved with john for voting off gabe and rob may be able to exploit that or, pagong time again.

Awareinva

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 05:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Acme might just be good at spoiling- Car54 had Gina picked to go on Monday (although she wouldn't share why) :)

I was looking at some of the spoilers and thought she could go.... maybe Acme doesn't cheat they are just really really smart :)

Webkitty

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 05:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe Gina will show up with Hunter on the early show tomorrow........

Awareinva

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 06:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
next week merge; lots of confrontations about lying to each other; Gina says she understands the vote; play well play hard; had a good time

Neko

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 06:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Purple buffs for the new tribe new episode.
Wonder what'll be called..n

Seamonkey

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 06:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gina and Hunter will always have this story to tell their grandchildren

Webkitty

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 06:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, that's it.....have to go and try to get the blood pressure down!!!!

You guys are all awsome!!!!! (Big tribal hug)

Seamonkey

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 06:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, a big thanks to you on the eastcoast!!

Awareinva

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 06:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I would love to see Rob gather the new Moo and get something going, but I think Gina has skewed the impression they must have of Rob and Sean; no matter how mad they are about Gabe going- they won't team with them..... but Vee on the other hand- I would love to see the three moos team up with vee;

Vee, Neleh, Pappy and Kathy

Vs.

John, Robert, Zoe, and Tammy

Rob and Sean could play a big role in the outcome here even if they go first.... this is getting better and better I think its the best Survivor since the first season!!!

Gail

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 06:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Or maybe both together on the Saturday morning show? Last week, Keith and Gabe were on the Saturday morning early show cooking.

Awareinva

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 06:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, off to be civil to the family again- told the folks they could have my undivided attention all week except for Thurs. from 8-9pm!!! Even made them eat out early so we could be home in time for the show!!! not that I'm in any way addicted to this show- of course not... yeah right!

Firebird05

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 06:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
John, Tammy, Zoe, Robert and Kathy seem to be forming alliances before the twist.

I think it would be interesting to see them go against Sean, Rob , Vee, Neleh and Pappy.

But I'M not sure about Naleh and Pappy sticking to the old Rotu after they voted out Gabe. It seems they stuck together along those lines this time tho.

Urgrace

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 06:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Neleh and Pappy are sticking together as a force of two. Tammy, Zoe, and Robert promised John they would vote with him last week, but all of them had their eyebrows raised at him this week, and it would have been verrrry interesting to see them at TC tonight. My guess is that Vee is more likely to be in an alliance with them down the road. She doesn't even hang out with Sean and Rob any more than any of the rest of the tribe. Tammy didn't want to throw the IC. For herself that was smart. She doesn't want to be a target.

Seamonkey

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 06:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
But P and N did stick with Kathy vs Gina and I cannot imagine them warming up to Rob or Sean..

Rob had come out publicly now and showed himself to be strong (if not accurate, from what I've read,haven't seen it yet) so he'd be the one to vote out as they anticipate individual immunity strength challenges.

Urgrace

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 06:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Right on Seamonkey.

Gina8642

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 06:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Why on earth are they merging at Rotu's beach?? It has been clear for awhile that the living is better at Maraamu.

Yuhuru

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 06:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Webkitty,

Sierra Mist

I saw it for the first time in March when I was in Chicago. I thought it was equivalent to Vess or Big K (like 25 cents a can), but I guess it's legit.

To Everyone in the TVCH I want to say that I luvvvv this Survivor !!!!

Kizz

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 07:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I noticed no one mentioned that John and Robert paddled the boat for the RC as ineptly as I have ever seen two men row. That's how Maraamu was able to catch up, Gina and Kathy smoked the guys. It was an impressive thing to see.

Seamonkey

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 07:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well probably John was confused and thought he was actually throwing the Immunity Challenge :)

Seamonkey

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 07:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well name for the new tribe? how bout
ROTMOO or DUMDUMS

Maris

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 07:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I like Rotmoo or rotmama

Hippyt

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 07:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gina,really,I didn't notice they were at Rotu's beach? Maybe they weren't given a choice!
MB decided there is too much food over there,so he makes the choice,he's that evil!

Mygetaway

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 08:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I didn't spoil the beginning of the show, and I'm glad I didn't, but after Mar lost I had to come on real quick and see who went. I have to say I'm sad. Be back later, after I read all the posts...

Mygetaway

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 09:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
>>I noticed no one mentioned that John and Robert paddled the boat for the RC as ineptly as I have ever seen two men row. That's how Maraamu was able to catch up, Gina and Kathy smoked the guys. It was an impressive thing to see. <<

Kizz!! That was my most favorite part of the show. I now have a sore throat! I thought that whole thing was great. Was anyone else hoping that Pappy's heart was so broken, that he would sacrifice himself for the good of the family? He was having a hard time on the relay race, and I was hoping he would tell them to vote him off. Oh well. The merge should be interesting. I have no clue who my favorite will be now. Next week should be even better. This is definitely better than Africa and Austraila.

Wink

Friday, April 05, 2002 - 06:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
John and Robert in that boat were a hoot. They definitely get the dumb and dumber award for this episode. Kathy and Gina were awesome.

Crazydog

Friday, April 05, 2002 - 09:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I would like to see Rob tell Neleh, Kathy and Pascal about John's master plan to supposedly vote off the three of them before the old Marammuus. Then those three join to make six and vote out John.

Still disliking John and his power trip. He's perhaps got a bigger ego than Richard Hatch or Michael Skupin. I don't believe for a second that he will vote out Neleh et al before Rob. Did you see how disgusted he and Zoe looked when Rob won the maze challenge?

For everyone who says that Zoe rocks, I still don't get it. For one, she is invisible - is there a reason why she doesn't seem to do interviews? And she lied to Rob even after he called her on it and then apparently she lies again next week to both Rob and Kathy. She just seems to be a follower.

Knightpatti

Friday, April 05, 2002 - 06:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I do not understand the attraction for Zoe as the favorite either. She is definitely under the radar. At least Sara did have moments when she contribute something for the camera (not only her chest, either) As fas as I can see Zoe is definitely a follower. She does have some muscles in her legs. I thought at first she would be the food gatherer, but that is Kathy. Kathy is definitely more interesting than Zoe or Tammy.

Whoami

Monday, April 08, 2002 - 12:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wasn't sure where to post this observation, but since it happened in Ep 6, I'll put it here....

During the "Do I have Stupid written across my forehead" scene, Rob and John are getting pretty animated in their discussion. In the far background, Vee and Tammy are standing there talking, and periodically looking over at Rob/John. They must be talking about Rob and John. Just found that interesting, since I'm almost sure Vee was sitting with them when that scene started. And wondered what they were saying!!

Awareinva

Monday, April 08, 2002 - 01:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whoami, I noticed this too and had actually recapped the discussion in my Zoe Superspoiler thread.... it didn't have to do with Zoe, but I noticed the same thing and wanted to see what others thought.

Vee was sitting there when John promised that the new Moo would go before them (old Moo), but then when John talked about not trusting Rob and shook on the deal with Sean and Rob, Vee had gotten up and was a the fire talking to Tammy. I also noticed that Sean was talking to John when they shook hands but we didn't get to hear him say anything. Instead we got a voiceover of Rob saying John trusted him but he shouldn't! Mark B. is definitely playing up the Rob vs. John angle and Sean has taken a huge editing back seat.

There was a shot before the John/Rob "do I have stupid written on my forehead" conversation where Tammy, the General and John were all standing there when Vee, Sean and Rob were sitting on the raft. We also had a cut shot of Zoe heading to the fire or beach then changing direction. I was wondering myself if there was a lot of conversation there we didn't see between the six of them, then John and Rob got into their conversation. Vee talking to Tammy sure looked like Vee reporting what had been said, they were definitely looking over at John, Rob and Sean.

This is the main reason I am going with Kathy for the boot this week. I think John will stick to his handshake, but that whole preview of the John/Sean blowup makes me nervous.... boy, I really do have to rememeber this is just a game for goodness sakes.

Knightpatti

Monday, April 08, 2002 - 09:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok didn't John want to throw the competition to vote off Rob? Why will he change now? Rob did a great job last week in the competitions. John is all to win and he does not want any threats. Why would they want Kathy out before Rob? I think all of you just want to keep Rob. Remember these survivors are not thinking the way we think with their boot offs. Also, remember Gina, Hunter and Patricia talked about Rob being funny and a nice guy. If the rules follow as before, this bootee is with them and the next ones are the jury and in a different location.

Awareinva

Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 05:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree that John wanted to boot Rob, BUT he wanted to lose the IC then they would have had no choice but to vote out one of the old Moos. He never promised not to get rid of Rob before the merge. What John promised was that they wouldn't try post-merge to rejoin the new Moo and boot the old Moos out. He has given his word and I think he will stick to it.... this doesn't mean that he might not manipulate Rob's ousting some other way than by voting for him (maybe he will try to get Kathy, Neleh and Pascal to do the dirty work for him).

I'm not saying John won't be looking for every angle to get rid of Rob, but I think he will stick to his word about not going out gunning for the old Moo over the new Moo. And I think it will bite him in the butt- biggest mistake of the game in my opinion. I actually would like to see John be lying, but they have featured him talking about integrity being his whole strategy since the beginning. (Of course that would make him the ultimate liar! I just don't know if I can wait until Thursday!)

Gina8642

Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 06:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This is neither here nor there - but:

If John thought it was important to get rid of Rob pre-merge why on earth didn't he compete in the IC?

He is a nuckle-head to use a Hunter phrase. He wanted food more than he wanted to control immunity. (Is this 'Outwit, Outplay, Outlast'? ) If he/Robert(the general)/Zoe wanted Rob off, they should have let RC go and competed as a group in IC. That way, they could have been assured of a loss and a Rob boot.

Instead, John attempts to send in Tammy to do his dirty work. If she went along with this, it would screw her down the line in how the Old Moo regarded her.

Maybe nucklehead is too kind - more like an idiot. He just outwitted himself. (Though stupid - I don't put this anywhere near the par of KimP's blunder in S3)

Even with that said, I think Rob's days are numbered. He's my pick for Ep 7 boot. (The other pre-merge bootees just speak way too highly of him.)