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Webkitty

Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 06:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm leaning toward John to go this week but am going to reserve the right to wait until the last minute to make my final decision.
I think I spelled out my reasons on another thread......
I still think Kathy makes it to the final two, who with, that's the question (in my mind!)
Something Gina said in her exit interview on the Early Show... "its 85% luck" I got the impression that Sean makes it farther than I thought he would...

Fruitbat

Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 08:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Kathy for the final two? Say more about that Webkitty. That is a stretch for me.

Webkitty

Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 11:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
FB, its on another thread, too many to keep track of.
My theory is simple. So far, every winner of Survivor has had camera time from the first episode.
There haven't been any winners that were "invisable" going into the merge.
(Of course, there is always a first time for everything....and yes, I know I was wrong about Gina...)

So, going with this theory,
Not the winner: Zoe/Robert/Tammy
Probably not: Vee/Pascal/Nelah
That leaves: Rob/SEan/John/Kathy

I think John and Rob are going to self destruct. That leaves Sean or Kathy as one of the final two. I'm going with Kathy because I think she will do better in the IIC. She is shrewd and a wheeler dealer, where Sean is too "in your face" he'll get the boot eventually.

I can't imagine that Zoe/Robert/Tammy/Vee/Pascal/or Nelah actually win this thing unless one of them starts to get more camera time. Although, one of these could be in the final two due to IIC wins and flying under the radar. When it comes down to the final jury vote though, I don't think just flying under the radar in going to be enough to pull out a win.

Just my little theory

Awareinva

Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 12:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You don't think Tina was virtually invisible until the merge in S2? I don't recall her being much to watch until the first challenge post merge when she bowed out to Keith. Tapewatcher even had a thread about it "The Dog that Didn't Bark" because Tina didn't say a word the whole first episode.

Moondance

Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 12:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Aware... btw where is that Tapewatcher... it is about that time!

Fruitbat

Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 12:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kathy is not likely to win any IC. She did a miserable leading her team with the puzzle and maze. Now Rob is another story.

Car54

Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 12:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What about when Tina bonded with Maralyn and then voted her off, or when she participated in the search of Kel's stuff looking for Beef Jerky. She was very verbal, and very present, it was the fact that she had an F2 alliance that we didn't know.

Car54

Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 01:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Kathy is a pretty fit, and when she is just playing for herself, she might do ok! She and Gina did great beating Dumb and Dumber at the canoe race.

She is NOT a leader, but she may be someone who does better playing as an individual. That may, tho prove her downfall..if she wins, she makes herself a threat.

Webkitty

Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 01:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't agree that Tina was invisable before the merge, she WAS featured in each show, if only a little (see Car's post)

Kathy did not do well with the maze, but IIC is another matter, its every person for themselves and its a wild card, anything can happen.
Look at Richard Hatch when he won the fire starting IIC, Susan and Kelly were ready to boot his a$$ out that night, but he won it.

I wasn't posting during S2 so I can't comment on Tapewatcher.
I'm sticking by my theory!

Fruitbat

Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 01:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So who are you voting Webkitty?

Webkitty

Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 01:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm going to wait until Thursday for my official vote, but as of right now, I'm thinking John.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 02:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Me too.

Gina8642

Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 06:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just posted this on another thread, but it pertains to this discussion.

I watched the video clips of Gina's appearance on Rosie today. (You can find them at Survivor Fever's web site) At one point Rosie is talking about John (and Rob) but can't come up with John's name. So she asks Gina something like 'The nurse - What's his name?'

It takes Gina a moment to come up with John's name. Longer than it would take me. IMO - this means Gina doesn't know John personnally, or at least not very well. If they'd speant time at Loser Lodge together, Gina would come up with his name much faster.

To me that means John can't go this week (next week yes, just not this week.)

Llkoolaid

Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 06:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
oh oh, I am getting scared, I was so sure John was going, I voted for him everywhere.

Gina8642

Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 07:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL

Knightpatti

Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 07:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tina was featured in the early shows. I remember her talking alot about Jerri. That was a good point about Gina having to think about John's name. She would have known it if he was in loser lodge with her. You guys are just too observe!

Car54

Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 03:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just received this from CBS eye-mail:

This week, the tension grows between the castaways when the two tribes merge into one! While Rob attempts to work an angle that will keep him in the game, Kathy becomes paranoid that her old Rotu members have targeted her as the next to go. Will she be the seventh castoff?

All new SURVIVOR: MARQUESAS!
Thursday, April 11, 8/7c

Fruitbat

Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 05:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hmmmmmmmm makes me think not. Shit. Back to John. I am having fits again.

Chippy

Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 06:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with the Shit part, fruit. I'm lost.

Llkoolaid

Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 07:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Every time someone posts a comment I am " oooh that sounds just about right". Total confusion, I am sticking with John for the reasons I posted on other threads and as my 7 year old would say "just because".

C1mag

Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 03:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know if anyone has noticed but just prior to someone beeing booted the focus is taken off of them. We got too much Rob and Kathy going on. It's hard to see both Rob and John missing a boot this time around. This is beyond the alpha male thing. Rob hates this guy for other reasons and John hates Rob for the same reason he couldn't stand Gabe. Immunity THREAT! I will sum up my pic for this boot this way...

If Rob wins immunity, Captain John is Toast! If John wins immunity, Zoe is toast. If anyone else wins Immunity, John is gone.

I base my theory on the fact that since Kathy is chosen by her little family to meet Rob for the pre merge summit this means P and N trust her judgement. We know Rob is gonna mind screw her about John and the other three. She will bring to the table P and N's vote at least this one time. She's going to either target John or Zoe. Those little 3 (P,K,N) do hold the key to this game right now and I think Rob is the only one who might get that. Captain John seemed to lose sight of the math in this game.

If John goes this game is awwwwwn big time. Do you realize we would see for the first time 3 groups of 3, when voting? Is this a hint about the next titled episode..."The Jury is out" Will there be a 3 way tie when they vote as nine? Each little sub group of three choosing a different one to boot? Now that would be interesting! What a deadlock!

Well I'm full on babbling.... Grrrr how much longer? I gotta say I'm lovin this show bigtime! The drama this time around is awesome! So my choice for the boot is Captain John. I'm probably sooooooo wrong :) Damn that Mb!

C1mag

Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 03:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
a side note about comments made by the prior booted on talkshows... I buy NOTHING they say as being evidence of possible boots in the future. MB is fully aware that there is another game going on and thats the game between us die-hard fans to guess the next one going. He probably instructs them to play it dumb. Gina's comments about "The Nurse" could also be interpreted as not knowing Johns vocation. You could still know the person but his job may not so quickly register with you.

Fruitbat

Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 04:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree C1mag. I will stick with John for the same reason Kool's son states.

I do not think it is Zoe. MB is editing this show for primetime viewers not to confuse the internet crowd. There is a formula to hook viewers and boost ratings. I doubt that would include someone going completely out of the blue. He is creating characters as one would with a drama. He hopes to snag viewers with a story. It would not be very compelling to watch a show where it was out of the question to guess correctly. That is part of the fun.

C1mag

Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 04:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bat you have made an excellent point!! The director would definitely allow the viewer the opportunity to get to know the player before they are gone. He might try it in the one hour but I think this next episode is all about Rob, Kathy, and John so it's one of those three and I'm gonna stick with Captain John. Going with that thought, have you noticed Vee's very silent journey the last couple of weeks?

Fruitbat

Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 05:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes I have noticed silent Vee and expect her to be around a long time. She may be bonding with Tammy and Zoe.