Archive through April 21, 2002
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Archive through April 21, 2002
Moondance | Friday, April 19, 2002 - 02:27 pm     Something else to chew on until Tapewatcher... From the SS board Mike Larson Registered User (4/18/02 9:29:44 pm) Reply It's ALL in the Waterfall ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ok, I cannot believe the symbolism people haven't posted on this yet, the waterfall is the symbol of control Rotu had the waterfall, they dominated the challenges John, after voting off Gabe, stood in the waterfall, proclaiming himself as "in control". Kathy last week, after knowing Zoe was lying, went to the waterfall, and it was very symbolic as she knew that the game could be in her hands. Paschal and Neleh were seen in the waterfall tonight. You see waterfall action, that's where the twist of power is going, it's been promoted in almost every power scenario in the game. |
Moondance | Friday, April 19, 2002 - 02:28 pm     And also from another poster ...And next weeks preview showed Sean in the waterfall! |
Mygetaway | Friday, April 19, 2002 - 02:44 pm     There could actually be something to this. It could be true.. Neleh took a dip in the waterfall and pool this week too, and talked about how it refreshed her, and cleared her head (right?). |
Webkitty | Friday, April 19, 2002 - 02:54 pm     Sounds like a theory to me!  |
Sunshinemiss | Friday, April 19, 2002 - 03:45 pm     Oooo I love this cloak-and-dagger stuff! Too much X-files/conspiracy watching I guess. I'm only going to start worrying if I begin covering the windows and wearing an aluminum foil hat (lol, I had a friend whose Mom actually did stuff like that, kinda spooky) |
Kep421 | Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 02:59 pm     Ok...I buy the waterfall theory, lock, stock and barrel. But what about the wind symbolism that was so prevalent in the last episode? There were the strong early morning winds that blew down two trees close to where Paschal was sleeping, there were the strong shore winds that seemed to only favor Kathy's kite and of course we can't forget Sean's social faux pas that had a strength all their own....so if the waterfall represents control, what would wind represent? |
Moondance | Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 03:05 pm     Hmmmm something to think about Kepy!!! |
Twiggyish | Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 05:39 pm     You know, they do spend time showing the water and their various activities in the water. By cracky, I think you have something! |
Moondance | Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 06:08 pm     Here is a vid cap from Survivorfever ...
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Hippyt | Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 06:30 pm     Well,sputter,sputter,agreeing with Sunshinemiss! A great vidcap though!!!! |
Twiggyish | Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 06:34 pm     I really like that picture of him. A very interesting shift in power. He and Robert are the next strong males in the group. Pappy just doesn't seem to have the strength to take the lead. I think this is a good clue. |
Gina8642 | Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 07:24 pm     Was anyone else annoyed with Pascal's comment about Sean to John? Something to the effect of "It would be a disgrace if he [Sean] won." I rarely dislike any of these contestants. The only ones who get me, are those that get sanctimonous or judgemental of another's 'worthiness'. Now I know Pascal is a Judge - but it annoys me that he is judging Sean. (Kim J really irked me as well in S3 - she went around deciding who was a good person or not. ICK!!!!!!!!) |
Pamy | Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 07:37 pm     Yep! Pascal is no Roger!!! Also, did anyone think he looked like a skelton win he smiled last week?? Something is up with his teeth, they remind me of skelton teeth, spooky!!!
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Hippyt | Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 07:53 pm     Well,You have to take in to account that at the time Paschal said it,he thought John was on his team! He even gave John his word,I don't blame him for what he said or did this week. He finally started playing the game! I loved it at TC when he told Jeff,"I just started playing the game today." I knew right then,John was GONE!!!! |
Gina8642 | Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 09:45 pm     I didn't mind at all that he swithced his vote. He had good reason to. I just didn't like him judging Sean that way. I guess each of us has a pet peeve. It really bugs me when folks judge others. Not to be religious - but you arn't supposed to cast stones at others. And, I guess it bugs me more when older folks do it. They are supposed have grown wiser - but instead..... |
Kizz | Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 07:53 am     Gina I honestly think that comment from Paschal probably just came out of the frustration that Sean's not pulling his weight in the tribe...Rotu was a tribe of people who clearly put a premium on hard work. I did think the comment sounded a bit harsh, but we didn't see much of the conversation that led up to it. But I know what you mean, it bugged the crap out of me when Big Tom was doing all his i'm-putting-Clarence-in-his-place stuff last time |
Cablejockey | Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 12:01 pm     I am no fan of the judge. If I remember correctly he said it would be an embarassment if Sean made it to the final 4. |
Llkoolaid | Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 12:25 pm     He's a fool, he had one group of people use him for his vote and now he has another doing the same thing all the while Neleh leads him around by the nose. and I agree Kizz his comment smacks of Big Tom and his putting Clarence in his place. My opinion of Paschal changed a lot last week, before that I thought he was running the show with Neleh and that he was a fair man. His true colours came out last week especially with that comment. |
Ketchuplover | Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 06:34 pm     Pascal running the show? I believe I speak for all the atoms in the Universe when I say HUH??????????????????????????????????????????? |
Pamy | Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 06:41 pm     I can't even imagine him running a court room!!
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Moondance | Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 07:01 pm     Pappy is not that bad! He is playing the game... if he didn't vote the way he did he would have been out soon... at least he has a chance |
Seamonkey | Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 07:20 pm     I sure don't think Paschal even approaches Big Tom on the offense-o-meter. |
Sia | Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 07:21 pm     In defense of Paschal, Kizz has it right: Paschal stated on-camera that it would be disgraceful if someone who had not been a team player and who did NOT contribute as much in terms of work around the campsite--meaning Sean--won the game. He said, in effect, that, given the choice of voting for a hard worker/team player (e.g., himself, Neleh, Kathy, etc.) vs. someone who sat back and criticized everyone else (Sean), he would rather see a tribe-mate who had played hard and pitched in with the work win the big cash prize. There is nothing wrong with Paschal's decision; he clearly stated his reasons for his opinion, and I see nothing inflammatory, insulting, or derogatory in his remarks. Think of it this way: remember when Endemol considered sending in a replacement after Justin was ejected from the BigBrother2 house? Say that CBS had sent in a new houseguest to replace Justin. If you were one of the remaining hamsters, wouldn't it be an "embarrassment" (Paschal's word, per CableJockey above) if the new person had won the big prize after a shorter stay and, presumably, after having had the advantage of watching the episodes of BB and/or the LFs up to the point of entering the house? Well, yes it would. I would find it embarrassing to have worked so hard and so long, just to have some newcomer usurp my position and win the money. |
Julieboo | Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 07:54 pm     I totally agree with Sia's above post. I like Pappy! (and BTW, isn't everyone posting here pretty much casting a stone of one size or another?) |
Llkoolaid | Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 08:02 pm     What I meant by Pappy running the show was that Neleh was following him not the other way around, no way did I mean that I thought he was running the show with the other people. Sorry about the confusion, like I said many times, I don't always explain what I mean well. |
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