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Car54

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 12:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Posted by Reduntantly Reduntant at SS:
Why Tammy MIGHT Vote for Gabe--Vee Spoiler
From EP4 on the CBS website:

Vee has a solo video clip about all the *drama* going on. It answers at least one of the riddles we've been trying to solve.

Here is Vee:

"Today was the first day of drama that I wasn't expecting to happen. Drama meaning, um, I don't know exactly what provoked it. Some people are saying that it was Tammy wanted to talk to Gabriel about something that he said, and we noticed people going back and forth. So, of course, we were getting fishy, y'know, wondering, "Okay, are we all in this?"

And Sean, being the boisterous one that he is, he said, " I'm gonna find out." And he went and asked the question, y'know, "What's going on here? Is this us, or what?" And push came to shove, we found out it was an outside situation.

But still, being leery about exactly where everybody is, we really haven't a good pinpoint on exactly if there's a head in this group? If everybody's on an equal playing field here? If people are forming little groups here and there? We haven't gotten that yet, and we're just taking it day by day to see what we come up with."

(Emphasis Vee's, not mine.)

This tells us several things.

1) Now we might know who says the *innocent* comment. It was Gabe.
Drama in Vee's lexicon = *flurry of activity*. Reminds me of junior high.

2) Tammy feels secure enough in her position to confront Gabe about it. Is she making her move to replace Gabe as the tribal leader? Is Tammy the answer to the question, "A new tribe member tries to assume leadership of the tribe?" Or is *new* literal, as in Rob, Sean or Vee?

3) Sean had the balls to ask what was up. He found out the answer after push came to shove. Did Vee just use a trite phrase here, or did Sean actually get into fisticuffs with whoever he confronted?

Hmmm . . this would explain the CBS LA preview talking about the backstage fight, it would explain Gabe's cut lip, and would make the argument for a Gabe boot stronger and stronger. Let's see: Rob, Sean, Vee, maybe Tammy, and maybe John vote Gabe out? Does Rob mastermind this whole deal, thus earning the special promo and staying on another week? God, the horror . .

4) Vee is still referring to herself and Sean as *we*. So she is aligned with him right now, for better or worse. Unclear whether she includes Rob in the *we*. She sure didn't seem all that thrilled to see Rob join the group at the switch.

5) Vee, Sean and Rob have no freaking clue about any alliances at Rotu. They are still trying to figure them out, as are we.

What do you think?


Don't make me have to repeat myself.

Car54

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 12:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thursday, March 28, 2002

Rooting for Monhegan woman on 'Survivor'

Press Herald Staff Reporter,

PORTLAND — Will Zoe win?

That's been the hot question ever since Zoe Zanidakis of Monhegan Island became Maine's first contestant on the hit CBS show "Survivor" in February. Local radio hosts pose it. Office workers ask it. Transplanted Mainers e-mail each other about it.

Viewers will have to wait for their answer. The show's filming is done, so someone has already won, but the winning episode won't be aired until May 19. Tonight at 8 p.m., CBS will air episode No. 5 out of a total of 13.

The buzz has made the 35-year-old lobster boat captain an instant celebrity in Maine and around the country.

An Internet discussion group focusing solely on Zanidakis has sprung up, so people anywhere can keep track of her.

She graces the pages of her own calendar, "A Year In The Life of Zoe." The calendar went on sale last month and has garnered about 10,000 orders, from individuals and major retailers such as Borders and Barnes & Noble.

"We just shipped some calendars to California yesterday," said Jess Wiggin, owner of Jess' Market in the midcoast city of Rockland, which sells Zanidakis' calendars and her lobsters. "She's getting some hats to sell, too. People come in here every day talking about her."

But no matter how much they talk about Zanidakis, people find the answer to the burning question is elusive.

Until May 19, only CBS and Zanidakis are supposed to know for certain how Zanidakis did on the show. They know whether she won the $1 million prize or got voted off and when. And CBS makes contestants agree to not divulge the results to anyone.

The answer is not coming from Zanidakis. She has not returned calls to her home and her lobster boat phone. Wiggin and others say she is currently out of the country, in Australia for a couple of weeks, staying out of the media glare.

Zanidakis is one of 16 contestants on the current edition of the series, dubbed "Survivor: Marquesas." The 13 episodes were shot on the remote South Pacific island of Nuku Hiva before the show started airing Feb. 28.

The series calls on contestants to survive desolate conditions, a series of pre-determined challenges and some vicious in-fighting. At the end of each episode someone is voted off the island with melodramatic flare.

But Zanidakis' rooters —ranging from first-time "Survivor" watchers to diehard fans of the show — say her chances of winning are good. First of all, she's gotten very little camera time. In the past, "Survivor" contestants who get a lot of camera time early are often voted off early.

"I've noticed that people they focus on early can get voted off soon," said Jona Pillsbury of Portland. "She's staying out of the alliances and minding her own business. I think she has a good chance."

Micknrc

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 12:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Car--

I think it's funny that they're spoiling off clips that have been up at CBS all week like they're some hot news. We did Vee's clip days ago...and I'm not sure either hers or Robert's prove or point to anything close to what's supposed to happen tonight. The best part of Robert's IS the subtle clues to where things stand among the Rotu (along with that long analysis of the switch that was copied over here the other day).

edited to add: and why would last wek's clips --that is, last three days for them--have direct bearing on the "fight"? I think Vee's drama and the "fight" are two separate issues. Of course I could be wrong--I often am.

Car54

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 12:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Mick, could be..... never know?

One thing that has been in the back of my mind is, all along, the numbers from Tahiti Presse have not added up. The numbers of players compared to episodes, the jury numbers, the merge ep, etc.

On CBS website it clearly says that "acting up" is ground for disqualification.

Gabe is a Quaker... he would not be the punch-er...he must be the punch-ee- If someone punches him, would that person be disqualified, thus explaining the odd numbers we have seen?

Actually if it is Gabe, I am thinking more along the lines that he renegs on the plan to throw a challenge, or some of the players join with Maraamu and boot him ala Hunter. IF it is Gabe at all.

If Rotu goes to TC, it really wouldn't take much to get a Rotu booted... if they are not really united and don't have a plan, some might vote Sean or Rob, but if just 1 person joined Rotu, they would have a block of 4- there would either be a tie, or the others might not be unified in who they vote...it would be fairly easy to do.


Not arguing this, just reporting what they are saying. And there IS the promo that ran last night...that must be about something...

Squaredsc

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 12:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
thanks car for all of your info. i am still confused as to how to vote. as far as acme goes i am at work and can't clear the cookies but i will try again. hhhmmmm, curioser and curioser.

Micknrc

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 12:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
BRAND NEW SPOILER ALERT!!!

this LOOKS(?) serious! Sachi has been around a long time and does alot of the vidcapping

contradicts ACME <hoo boy, NOW I'm confused....>

link

Car54

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 12:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Across The Board Picks from the SS board:

AcmeBrainTrust
RC- Rotu
IC - Maraamu
boot - Gabe
Record for Survivor 4 – 4/4


SurvivorChatter
RC-
IC -
boot -
Record for Survivor 4 – 4/4


SurvivorFever Board
boot -
Record for Survivor 4 – 3.5/4


SurvivorNews Board
RC- Rotu
IC - Maraamu
boot - Gabe
Record for Survivor 4 – 3/4


MESS Hall
RC-
IC - Maraamu
boot - Rob
Record for Survivor 4 - 2/4


SurvivorCentral
IC -
boot -
Record for Survivor 4 - 3/4


True Dork Times
RC- Maraamu
IC - Maraamu
boot - Gabe
Record for Survivor 4 - 3/4


SurvivorPhenoix
RC- Rotu
IC - Maraamu
boot - Gabe
Record for Survivor 4 -


SurvivorBlows
IC - Maraamu
boot - Sean
Record for Survivor 4 - 2/4


Voted Off
IC - Maraamu
boot - Rob
Record for Survivor 4 - 2/4


EZ Board
boot - Sean
Record for Survivor 4 - 1/4

Surviivor.com Board
RC-
IC -
boot -
Record for Survivor 4 - 2/4

Surviivor.com Members
RC- Maraamu
IC - Maraamu
boot - Rob
Record for Survivor 4 - 1/4

SurvivorBlows Poll (1700+ votes)
boot - Sean 57.1% / Kathy 12.7%

SurvivorFever Poll (2900+ votes)
boot - Sean 61% / Rob 14.6 %

Zap2it Poll
boot - Neleh 37% / Sean 35%

ET Online Poll
boot – Sean 61% / Rob 24%

Micknrc

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 12:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, relax everyone it's a joke....grrrr


I'm gonna hunt sachi down and tweak her nose! Read all the way to the bottom....

pretty funny though and she's a very talented replicator--this will teach me to post before reading the fine print...LOL

Squaredsc

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 12:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
car/mic i finally got it. now i really don't know how to vote. logic says rotu will keep winning. but you can't always go with logic when humans are involved. ok i think i will leave my vote alone. but that could change in another hour. decisions decisions.

Grooch

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 12:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I voted for Gina off.

Car54

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 01:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Mick, I can't believe you fell for that! LOL! :)

Micknrc

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 01:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I know--me neither! (but it was funny!)

Wink

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 01:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The drunken Paschal was a hoot.

Whoami

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 01:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
HaHa! That Sachi story was pretty funny!

As for a serious possible scenario (going back to some other people's comments here), how 'bout this: There are now 12 people left. The merge is rumored to have happened at 9. So tonight, two people gang up on Gabe and beat the stuffing out of him, splitting his lip and breaking teeth. He has to leave the game, cause he has to be taken from the camp for medical treatment (I believe one of the rules is that you must leave the game under that type of circumstance). The two people who gang up on Gabe are DQ'd for breaking rules of no physical violence against a tribe member. We are now left at nine, and the tribes will merge next week! If so, who are the two who bust up Gabe? I'd like to say Rob and Sean, just so I can see them leave. But, Sean is all talk, and I'm betting not a tenth as tough as he thinks he is. Rob probably thinks he's too intelligent to raise a hand in anger, but he's probably just to stupid for it to occur to him he could.

Car54

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 01:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Posted by SamBoran at the SS board:

Last week Varner picked Gabe
JeffV responded to SNN about his prediction that Gabe was the next out. Apparently alot of people wanted to know why he was picking such an unlikely boot.

Here's the email posted on another site:

From: "Jeff Varner"
To: <news@survivornews.net>
Subject: Fw: SURVIVAL INSTINCT: Episode Four
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 20:10:52 -0800

Thanks for the email. I'm grateful for the feedback.

I've gotten a lot of emails from people wanting to know why I think Gabe is next. I think he'll be moved by Sean's confrontation last week. I think that the solid alliance at Rotu is Zoe, John, Robert and Tammy. Gabe, I don't think is part of it, based on sublties in the editing I've noticed. When Sean approached him I think it set off a signal in Gabe. I think he feels comfortable among his Rotu, so he'll make efforts to fit in with the others. We see him rapping in the previews. That's a clue to this, I think. The other Rotu will see this and get rid of him before he has a chance to align with them. Since he's not a solid part of their four, I think they see him as potential trouble. No matter how much they like him, they'll axe him to ensure control.

Sounds plausible when you think about it. We'll see if Varner hits it again. I would not have thought so, but it seems the online buzz is leaning this way!

Seamonkey

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 02:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't see acme.. last week I cleared history, and all cookies and still no dice. But i often have cache problems with W2000.

I wonder if the first page was even close.. the first clue, I think, of the spoof was Gabe saying he dated someone like Zoe who is now happy as a man..

But, it really is pretty funny.

i'm so tempted to go vote for Gabe, mostly because there is nothing appealing about him to me and any appeal he might have had had been draining away as the weeks go by.. but voting him might be wishful thinking.

Donut

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 03:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
wow, you guys are so helpful. can anyone tell me, maybe i am stupid and missed it, what the reasoning is for every site voted a moomoo IC and gabe? is it just varners article? thanks. Quick! gotta vote!

Maris

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 03:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
here is my question, Am I the only one that thinks Gabe looks like the boyfriend in Carrie??? I can picture him in that light blue polyester suit.

Awareinva

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 03:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Donut, we all think Rotu will throw the IC- but that was mostly because we figured they would want to get rid of Dumb and Dumber before the merge.

Gabe pick comes from Acme - they are 4 for 4 so far. Some scuttlebutt about a squirmish is being advertised out on the westcoast.... a behind the scenes kind of thing. Gabe had a split lip and some broken teeth- but he had the split lip last week, so who knows? Good Luck.

Black_No_No

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 03:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris... he also "sorta" looks like the guy who played the red-suited superhero in America's "SomethingerOther" Superhero... some show from the 80's I think.

Car54

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 03:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Donut, scroll up in this thread...we posted the spoilers

Donut

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 04:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
thanks, what was that thing that scared the crap out of me on acme? and how did you get their predicion. all i get is a fake no prediction available page

Maris

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 04:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes black you are right, what was that show. But everytime I look at Gabe I think of this character from Carrie, the nice guy who somehow gets things all messed up.

Moondance

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 04:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
http://www.acmebraintrust.com/predictions/wk5.html

Tksoard

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 04:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Geez Moonie, they're rude!!