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Do you want a "twist?"
Fruitbat | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 06:35 am     How about the twist....no merge? |
Grooch | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 06:47 am     The title is called "The Winds Twist" So wind has something to do with it. I think they get a bad storm (Bad for the survivors camps, but not bad by local standards) and they have to rebuild camp. From Car's post: THE SURVIVORS ARE FACED WITH AN UNEXPECTED CHALLENGE, ON "SURVIVOR: MARQUESAS," WEDNESDAY, MARCH 20 (Unexpected = weather) "The Winds Twist" again a weather word -- A sudden turn of events weather events are unexpected spurs new activity at the camps, on SURVIVOR: MARQUESAS, Wednesday, March 20 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. The survivors are faced with their greatest challenge yet when circumstances force them to work harder to keep up their camps hmmm... what happened to them? and their relationships with each other. Even so, certain tribe members can’t hold their tongues and decide it’s time to take charge of their destiny on the island. And the fourth person is voted out. there goes my "someone leaves due to injury" theory. |
Fruitbat | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 07:11 am     >>>>three new wrinkles to the game, one of which is that previous votes no longer count against a player in the event of a tie at tribal council. <<<<<< Grooch I am talking about the game in general, not this week, when I say there may be no merge at all, ever. Pagonging has proven dull and predictable. The only way to prevent a repeat of that ho hum syndrom is to eliminate the arena where it occurs. As for this week...I have no friggin clue. I will vote as Acme does this week then sit back and enjoy the show! |
Grooch | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 07:29 am     I could go with the no merge thing or the 3 team idea. But I like the no merge at all idea better. I hope next seasin he has all 16 people as one team only. That would be fun. Drop t eams off at different places and they both end up at the same camp. That would be a riot to see the expressions on their faces when the second group meets up with the first group. I wonder what the third wrinkle could be? Is it them being given no food? So there is really only one more wrinkle left? |
Joan | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 08:54 am     Maybe they take destiny into their own hands by moving their camp after something goes wrong? I don't want a twist, I want to watch Maraamu go into the merge with 2 ppl or something crazy but I know that probably won't happen. |
Car54 | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 09:48 am     I do want a twist, but if you think, during the first 10 minutes, there will be a total of 13 players..no way to do an even trade and get the tribes back to equal numbers, so I don't think that is what is going to happen. The numbers will not be even until after this week's Tribal council. |
Car54 | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 10:13 am     Just saw this over at the SS board and had to go check it out: If you go to the CBS site and access the Survivor store, they offer a buff halter top.... in the text it is offered in Lt Blue (Rotu), Lime (Maraamu) and Magenta (merge color?) but if you try to order and click on the "select color" box, only the lime and lt blue are currently available. Wouldn't be the first time the site gave out info a little early! I think whatever is coming is in the form of giving the players some choice...like the RC where they got to pick between food and blankets. |
Wink | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 10:13 am     Maybe during the first ten minutes "old accident waiting to happen" John has his eardrum punctured by one of Kathy's whistles and has to leave the island. That leaves 12 and away we go. |
Gina8642 | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 10:23 am     I think that MB/CBS has shown very little inovation in this show - so that makes me think that last twist (in Africa) will be very similiar to the twist this time. There will be an exchange of players. This makes it just impossible to predict who will be voted out next time. I do wonder if there will be some attempt to even up the teams. Like Car pointed out - they can't be made exactly even, but it can come closer. Maybe that was the plan in Africa as well, but proved unnecessary. Don't know. I just want my namesake to stick around..... As far as a "wind" twist - one of the team names means WIND so whatever the twist is, it effects them alot. I think any twist will effect both teams alot. Maybe the really tough bit will be when Jeff comes to Rotu and says pick some folks (whatever the number ends up being) to go. That is where the relationships will show up, and others will break down in Rotu. Rotu is becoming a tightly bonded group - it will tear them apart to start picking out folks to leave. That's what MB/CBS wants. In Africa, both teams were completely ignorant what their choices meant - therefor no hard feelings. It will be different this time. In the nucklehead tribe, this will throw them all off, and maybe save Gina. Gina keeping her fingers crossed..... |
Karuuna | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 10:35 am     Wasn't there a spoiler somewhere about one of the tribes having to completely move their camp? Could that be the tie-in to the weather problem, and taking fate into their own hands? |
Car54 | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 11:08 am     Here is a translation of the TahitiPresse article from Survivor Fever...kind of confusing: Survivor in Nuku Hiva: only 11 candidates left" From Tahiti Presse (12/2/01) Survivor-Marquesas" in Nuku Hiva: five candidates eliminated According to people living in Taiohae, five contestants of the US hit televised show, "Survivor-Marquesas", which is in the process of filming in Nuku Hiva(Marquesas), have as of Dec 1, 2001, been eliminated. The preceding week, two competitors had already left their tribe. This week three others have rejoined them, and from hereon are held in secret in an unknown location. The rules of the game have been grossly changed this time for unknown reasons. A trusted Marquesean has said furthermore that the Survivor Tribal Council sits now every three days at Colette Bay. On the other hand, up to now, the two tribes, composed of 16 contestants, has been located at Hakaui and Hakatea. It is learned today that one of them finds themselves at Hakapaa. The second tribe remains at Hakaui. From the Survivor Sucks site, by "Wezzie" Re: Tahiti Presse article - One tribe moves - Ep 4? 5? The guys at TP heard that the camps were located at Hakaui and Hakatea. After a few weeks of filming the heard that one tribe had "moved" to Hakapaa. We now know that Rotu was at Hakapaa from the beginning...they didn't 'move' they were always at Hakapaa. Tahitipresse also reported that Hakapaa will be merge camp. Some challenges will be held there, as well, probably after the merge. (Doesn't this make it sound like TWO players leave at once? Haven't there been some questions about why this series seems to have been shorter than past ones...could it be that for some reason we have 2 players booted?) |
Grooch | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 11:20 am     Why do the teams need to be even to be divided? When it comes to challenges, the team with the extra people have to sit one out. |
Car54 | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 11:23 am     Here is another article that refers to the merge: "The Survivor war has a seventh victim" The Tribunal (Survivor Tribal Council) has met Thursday December 6, 2001, in the Colette Bay (Haeotupa), in Nuku Hiva, to eliminate, this same evening, its seventh contestant of the American television reality show "Survivor". Friday December 7, in the morning, the nine survivors were merged into one tribe, who have returned to Hakapaa, until the finish of the show. The seven candidates eliminated have been, up to then, secluded in secret, at first on the cruise ship "Spirit of Oceanus", anchored in Taiohae Bay, then at the beginning of the week of Dec 3, in a valley near Anaho, have been shifted Thursday Dec 6 to the finish of the journey to another site, always in the greatest secrecy. Contrary to a rumor circulating in Taiohae, the secluded bootees, will not be dispatched to New Zealand. On the other hand, Mark Burnett, the creator of "Survivor", has conceived another show, ecology based, which now has for a stage the volcanoes and fjords of New Zealand. There are also rumors in Nuku Hiva that the evicted contestants have been taken by plane West to Australia. Thursday evening in Taiohae, the parties were in full beat, in the film crew camp of "Survivor-Marquesas", also on the "Spirit of Oceanus" as on each Thursday night. Tahiti Press (According to the calendar at the TDT site, Hunter was booted on Nov 19, and each episode covers 3 days, so we have several episodes until the merge described in the TP article above.) |
Karuuna | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 11:32 am     Car, so glad you're back and posting. You're good! Thanks! |
Fruitbat | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 11:34 am     That *is* confusing. The offering of a majenta buff makes it pretty clear that another team is formed. Maybe we are getting too excited about the twists. Previous votes not counting is not all that earth shaking. I read on this board, somewhere, that one team had to move it's location due to some political or environmental reason. That may or may not be played for drama. They would have had to do some fast planning to create a twist around it. Maybe that signaled the time for the merge. I agree Grooch, no reason for the teams to be even. LOL! Wink. That whistle of hers is pushy and loud. |
Car54 | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 11:39 am     bat, maybe it just means Hildi and Frank are designing the buffs Personally I am going with the Varner spoiler... I think MB has him on salary, and he GAVE him the early boots, then had the list changed, full knowing we would jump on it, and then discount it, thinking it was too obvious. Jeff has leaked info before... |
Moondance | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 11:48 am     Hey Car I posted something about the third color here a few weeks ago ... they had it up in their store a few weeks ago then took it down after a day ... so I guess they put it back up. |
Car54 | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 11:51 am     Yeah, I think I remember that. I thought at the time that maybe it was because magenta is in their logo, but it seems odd it is listed but not for sale... those webmasters probably screwed up again. |
Grooch | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 12:13 pm     Couldn't the third color be a purposeful fake out? Remember the "X" over Gervase's face on the website and everyone thought the website had let the cat out of the bag. This might very well be a fake clue. |
Grooch | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 12:15 pm     Magenta... Hildi.......Quads..... 4 teams....... ARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!! <grooch goes heading for the hills..... then she suddenly remembers the picture of Tom's and Lex's love child and she turns around and heads for New York.> |
Demeter | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 12:22 pm     Wouldn't the best twist be: Form a new tribe with the evicted members, seclude them under the same conditions as the existing tribes, and at a later point re-introduce them into the competition! |
Whoami | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 12:44 pm     I was thinking that too Demeter! That would be cool! Get Hunter back on the show!! |
Car54 | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 12:55 pm     Gosh...the show would never end! (that would be fun!) |
Fruitbat | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 12:58 pm     Can you recap the Varner spoiler? |
Moondance | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 01:07 pm     http://www.survivornews.net/article?id=18 Revisiting Jeff Varner's Boot Picks Did Jeff Varner prematurely reveal the course of play for Survivor: Marquesas? SNN takes a closer look at a spiked article he wrote for Entertainment Tonight. BY SURVIVORNEWS.NET Thursday, Mar. 14, 2002 On Wednesday, February 13, 2002 several webmasters of Survivor related sites, including SurvivorNews.net, received by anonymous email a link to a story on the Entertainment Tonight website. The article, written by Survivor: Outback contestant Jeff Varner and titled Confessions of a Former Survivor, discussed what the finalists go through in the selection process, their first days before the competition begins, and his thoughts on the upcoming series of Survivor: Marquesas. The next day the article was gone. Thinking that ET had temporarily disabled or moved the article, I linked to a copy of it on Google Cache for the front page of SurvivorNews.net. By the third day, the article was mysteriously removed from Google. And at least one Survivor webmaster who made a copy of the article for a message board received a phonecall from a company attorney, demanding that it be removed. Some minor changes were made to the article, but the differences that stick out like a sore thumb now are the predictions Jeff made before the first episode aired. Jeff's predictions in the first revision stated: Jeff Varner 2/13/02: If I were a betting man, I'd predict Peter, Patricia, Hunter, Kathy, Zoe and Robert will struggle making the merge. I'd say Tammy and Gabriel reveal conniving devilish sides. Sarah, Rob, Hunter and Gina top the list of eye candy and Maraamu will be the strongest tribe. The second incarnation of the article, acceptable for public consumption, was revised to say: Jeff Varner 2/25/02: If I were a betting man, I'd predict Peter, Patricia, Gabe, Sean, Sarah and Gina will struggle making the merge. Tammy and Gabriel (and possibly Sean) will reveal conniving devilish sides. Sarah, Rob, Hunter and Gina will top the list of eye candy, and Maraamu will be the stronger tribe. Did Jeff have an inside track? What could have prompted a Viacom attorney to take time out of his expensive day to hassle a Survivor fan who runs a website? I am certain that his second list is incorrect. The preview for Episode 4 alludes to big changes coming. Jeff Probst: But when the Survivors are given a chance to take fate into their own hands, the game takes a drastic turn. Sean: Here's where the game gets really interesting. Having recently turned over a few rocks, I am confidently announcing my prediction that Sean was alive and kicking in the second week of December, several weeks from now in TV time. Just how much of Jeff's boot list is correct? The bottom line is that we don't yet know. But given the astronomical odds of correctly predicting the first three fallen before the first show even aired, we are almost certainly privy to a genuine Varner scoop, or being toyed with via a disinformation scheme. Time will tell. It won't be the first time. |
Car54 | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 01:12 pm     Good work Moon! I was just trying to post a link to your initial post in February of the first article- you had the scoop! Bet Jeff is loving all this attention. |
Moondance | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 01:13 pm     Thanks Car... hard to get one past you... I feel honored |
Car54 | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 01:16 pm     Moon, you big nut! you know I fall for all the big conspiracy theories!!! I think MB fed this to Jeff, ET has business links to CBS, they got it pulled and revised...just to drive us crazy.... (thanks MB, that is what makes it fun!) |
Moondance | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 01:18 pm     MB loves to play with us! |
Tksoard | Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 04:45 pm     Hi Car. I missed you!! Thanks for the info!!  |
Fruitbat | Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 04:39 am     Thanks Moon. |
Llkoolaid | Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 07:58 pm     I like the idea of re-introducing the booted players after the merge. Let them compete for the immunity and if they win they get to come back in the game and the remainging players one vote to vote off two people, one that was going and one to replace the person that won their way back in. The 2 people with the most votes would be gone. This would sure put a damper on voting off the strongest players and also hurt the alliances in pagonging one team. What twists there would be in scheming and alliances then. Sounds like fun but probably wouldn't happen. |
Llkoolaid | Monday, March 18, 2002 - 07:52 pm     Has anyone heard anything knew on the twists for this week's show |
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