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Seamonkey

Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 11:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
A DIRE consequence.. they have to spend a night with Terror and Weasel..

Yeah, I thought that "prediction was pretty funny.. especially the idea that kathy would charge Jeff to hug him.. since she's DONE that a couple of times and he saw what she did to Patrick.

NO they would not have Rosie pick..

tsk.

Seamonkey

Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 12:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Tk.. John would love it.. OWL pee!!

Mygetaway

Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 12:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I didn't get all the posts read, but I was kind of thinking the same thing about a tie this time. What if Kathy finds out who each "team" is voting for, then votes for someone else. Like if Vee and Sean vote Neleh, and Neleh and Pappy vote Sean, then Kathy votes Vee. That way, the tie breaker goes into affect, and she's off the hook.. Does that make sense? Probably not..it's getting late, and I'm trying to wind down..{LOL}

I'm kind of hoping for the Kathy/Sean F2 too.

Car54

Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 02:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Webkitty, how the heck did that happen? I am working on a huge project at work, and I honestly think I have killed a few brain cells in the last month or so.
I know my IQ has dropped a couple of points this week. Glad it is Sunday... hope I don't forget!

Wink

Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 05:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Car I'd be happy to spare you a few brain cells. I haven't been using mine lately.

Mygetaway that sounds like a neat idea. Of course it's probably a pipe dream but would be fun to see happen.

Fruitbat

Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 05:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am wavering on my decision to vote Paschal. The spoiler that Sean makes it to F5 is floating around my brain. I am torn.

I think they either know or suspect the end is different and they will not have a choice who to bring to the final 2. If that is the case and there is only a competition to win then it really doesn't matter which side she chooses. It is every man for himself and all four are equal competition. I would say that Neleh and Vee are evenly matched. Sean, being younger may have an edge on Paschal in both memory or physical IC.

I don't think we will see them standing on stumps this year. That has been done every time and that is the set up to choose your competition.

Car54

Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 06:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Winkie, e-mail 'em to me ok?

Bat, lets just wait a couple of hours and see what the across the board picks are. I agree it could go several ways. I am not seeing any big change in the F4 coming.... I think you just want that to happen!:)

Webkitty

Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 06:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fruitbat, about Pascal.

The previews I have seen make it seem as if he gets voted off this week. (falling down during the IC, ominous voice over)

I just don't think MB would give away who get voted off this easily, this close to the end.

The previews also show Sean saying "stay tuned" in a confident way, arms folded, like he is in charge.

If I just watched the show, and never came to the internet to spoil, I would think that Pappy goes this week and Sean is safe.

MB knows that there are plenty of people who never come to the internet to spoil. He wants every show to be a "surprise"

That makes me think that there is no way Pappy goes this week. ~just a thought~

Fruitbat

Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 07:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I will wait Car, I am not ready to jump yet.

That makes sense Webkitty. However I have seen some things in promos that telegraphed the vote or challenge winner.

Yes.......I want the end to be very different. I am tired of the old formula. He has done so well with changes this year I cannot believe he will not twist what everyone is expecting.

Car54

Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 07:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It is already going to be different in that most probably the final 4 will be a combination of both original tribes, that there was no Pagonging, that there was no alliance that dominated throughout the run.

You just want drama. It will be dramatic.

Webkitty

Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 07:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think MB would change the end game w/o letting the Survivors know about it in advance.

They are playing for a million dollars. If I was there, and was planning my strategy going by previous Survivors, and all of the sudden at the end everything changed, ~dramatically~ I would cry foul!

This isn't BB where the players are expected to go along with anything that Big Brother tells them to, no matter how unfair.

There probably is some sort of twist, but either the players already know about it or it isn't that far removed from previous formulas.

Don't worry MsBat, Car is right, no matter what, there will be drama.
I think Sean is our best bet for drama, that is why I am saying (and hoping) Vee goes this week, everyone else needs to stay there for the drama to build. She's nice enough, but boring! She needs to go, now!

Car54

Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 08:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
But they MIGHT know about the change, and we just might NOT KNOW that they know. Ya know?:)

Fruitbat

Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 08:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
They did not cry foul in Africa when the tribes got scrambled! <<stamps feet>> I want a lot of drama. So much drama that I jump up and down and scream.

Fruitbat

Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 08:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thats my girl, Car. :) Now you are talking.

Fruitbat

Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 08:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
They have already been told to expect the unexpected very early on. "This is a brand new game" were his words.

Car54

Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 08:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, except for Rob and John we still have the 2 most dramatic players in the game left...Kathy and Sean, so we have a %50 chance of drama...

Vee, Neleh, and Paschel.....eh, not so dramatic.

and remember, if Sean wins, we are gonna have to tape Moon down she is gonna be so mad...so we have that drama to look forward to as well!

Personally I am still hoping for Kathy, and if it is not Sean, I hope she takes Neleh to the F2 and whips her hecking little butt. (Nothing personal, Neleh!...It is just a game!)

Donut

Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 02:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
wow, theres some good plottin and plannin going on here! (although i covered one eye while reading to try to avoid getting spoiled, while looking for everyones speculations..)
Has anyone considered the unusual scenario of Kathy winning IC and giving it to Neleh in exchange for a deal with them to take her to the final three?(then the 3 of them voting out sean, and doing their damndest to keep IC from V next time) If P and N are afraid of S and V, then keeping K might be the lesser of two evils in their minds..
i still havent even voted yet- there are so many options-its gettin real xciting!
WebKitty: hope your hubby is ok. glad you dont have to watch in the hospital! i already went thru that last time when we had to run my dadinlaw to the ER 5 minutes into the finale and saw the end in the ER and had to watch the beginning later on tape.

Fruitbat

Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 03:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Webkitty! I forgot to mention your husband! Hope he is OK. Selfish man. Surgery on Thursday. sheeeesh.

Webkitty

Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 03:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Donut, I don't think Kathy would give up the IN to Neleh. But, you never know, I guess we'll find out soon!

I will wait until Tuesday to post what is going on with my husband. I'm allowing myself these next few days until the Survivor finale on Sunday is over and Monday morning quarterbacking is discussed

That scenario that happened with you and your father-in-law was what I was picturing for myself until I found out that the finale was on Sunday! CBS scheduling must be my personal "tv fairy"!

Donut

Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 03:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i voted but changed one thing. Decided that pappy might still have the bond with sean (altho sean hasnt seemed to stay too loyal to him, at least to the cameras) so i said Vee off, but stuck with Kath for IC , and pappy on.

Webkitty

Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 03:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Fruitbat, you know it! LOL!

Webkitty

Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 03:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Donut, If Kathy doesn't win immunity I will be shocked, I tell ya.

Donut

Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 03:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
WARNING: ACME spoiler discussed here, so if you are the 1 in a billion that isnt spoiling this week, Don't read this message!
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ok, i peeked, alright, i downright stared. couldnt take the peer pressure, so i see from the spoilers that i need to go back and change my vote. It makes sense, cuz everytime i go to acme with a sure plan, and change my mind at the last second, my original plan is always right. so that does it, i am riding the Sean off train once again( but i did come up with originally before acme.....)