Archive through May 12, 2002
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Archive through May 12, 2002
Car54 | Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 09:57 am     Go to the top of this thread.. THIS WEEK- The Princess NEXT WEEK- Marquesan Vacation 3RD WEEK- TALE OF 2 Cities (ep BEFORE final 4) Just wanted to remind you whatever we speculate, we have 2 episodes before this one...lots could happen. |
Grooch | Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 10:17 am     The princess and the pea are Neleh and Pappy. (Since Pappy was a pea last week.) I believe Pappy is leaving this week. |
Awareinva | Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 11:49 am     The more I think about the story- wasn't the bad guy (Car says Sydney was his name) a lawyer? Vague recollection that he defended Charles (hey, I remembered the good guys name I think), but lost. That's how he got into the prison to switch places, and go on to the guillotine. LAWYER who sacrifices himself.... thinking it's gotta be our Pappy! Aren't most judges lawyers first? So I am thinking that Robert or Tammy go tonight, and the other one goes next week. This is the final five dilema Mark B. previewed before.... Sean saying just an agreement to get them to final five and then every man for himself. Pappy will sacrifice himself for Neleh. Gotta be it, don't ya think? And the best of times, worst of times line fits too--- they succeeded in getting the honor patrol (sorry, but that seems to be the common bond with these five) to final five, ie. the best of times, but now are faced with having to vote off someone they might really be friends with, worst of times. And this would give us old Maraamu vs. new Maraamu- two cities? I think it's gotta be Tammy or Robert tonight. |
Weinermr | Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 11:57 am     I always think of Ronald Colman - I know this has nothing to do with Survivor but I thought I would just throw that in the mix. |
Grooch | Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 12:00 pm     Dang, Aware! Now I just may have to go and change my vote. |
Fruitbat | Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 01:17 pm     Very good boy Weiner, now go find your nurse. She must just be in the other room. Now shoo. You are scaring me a tad. |
Fruitbat | Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 01:17 pm     Aware, that sounds good to me. Very nice logic. |
Weinermr | Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 01:51 pm     I'm not driving you "batty" am I? |
Hippyt | Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 01:52 pm     I think you're on to something there,Aware! |
Car54 | Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 02:14 pm     THANK YOU AWARE!!!! Gosh, I was getting ready to do a link to the Cliff Notes site! Gosh, I thought this was a popular book! Yes, the disolute lawyer Sydney Carton sacrifices himself in the place of Charles Darnay, the true love of the beautiful Lucie. |
Nessietessie | Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 02:20 pm     Do you honestly think Pappy would sacrifice a million dollars to give it to Neleh? I thought he would be more intelligent than that. As sweet as Neleh is, would you sacrifice a million dollars to someone who you just met? It's a game, isn't it? |
Car54 | Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 02:30 pm     Ep 12 would not be for the million...it would be for Final 5 and 4. Rodger did it for Elizabeth- got her one more week so her pay-out would be higher. |
Fruitbat | Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 02:51 pm     It could also just refer to the famous quote...."It is the best of times and the worst of times". I just don't think anyone will be asking Pappy and Neleh who wants to go first. The unspoken agreement is to play the game and play to win. I expect to see a lot of talking privately. Sean and Vee will try to enlist Kathy to vote Pap and Neleh out........and Pap and Neleh will try to get Kathy for a Sean and Vee vote off. |
Weinermr | Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 03:45 pm     A Tale of Two Cities 1935, directed by Jack Conway, this classic story by Charles Dickens which takes place during the French Revolution is, by far, the best adaptation of his novel. It stars Ronald Colman in his best performance who is the very essence of Sydney Carton and includes great character actors like Edna May Oliver and Basil Rathbone. Being done at early sound MGM, its sets are very colorful and the characters are full of life. It captures the essence of Dicken's novel superbly. Ronald Colman .... Sydney Carton Elizabeth Allan .... Lucie Manette Edna May Oliver .... Miss Pross Reginald Owen .... C.J. Stryver Basil Rathbone .... Marquis St. Evremonde Blanche Yurka .... Madame Defarge Henry B. Walthall .... Dr. Manette Donald Woods (I) .... Charles Darnay Walter Catlett .... Barsad Fritz Leiber (I) .... Gaspard H.B. Warner .... Gabelle Mitchell Lewis .... Ernest Defarge Claude Gillingwater .... Jarvis Lorry Jr. Billy Bevan .... Jerry Cruncher Isabel Jewell .... Seamstress |
Hippyt | Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 04:02 pm     I think he would! He was ready to give the game away to John and his bunch,until Neleh talked him into trading camps. |
Willi | Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 04:04 pm     Weinermr...You are precious. Re-watching this film would be a terrific way to spend an evening. I watched it the first time with my grandparents...A very nice memory.
Ronald Colman...The man with the velvet voice. |
Weinermr | Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 04:06 pm     Willi - I love Ronald Colman in any of his roles. Have you ever seen Champagne for Caesar? It's a comedy, made about 1950, with Ronald Colman, Celeste Holm, Vincent Price, Art Linkletter, etc. It's hilarious. I highly recommend it. |
Car54 | Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 04:50 pm     *Kathy is torn when she finds a potentially pivotal decision before her. *While one castaway celebrates jubilantly, Paschal is less than pleased after arriving at an important determination about two tribemates. *Tensions arise at an uncomfortable campfire meeting and erupt the next night at Tribal Council. *A twelfth castaway is voted out, determining the Final Four. |
Sia | Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 08:49 pm     Weiner, there is a 1980 re-make of the same film, starring Chris Sarandon--who did a good job in dual roles. (Is he a brother of Susan Sarandon? I just hate her!) I borrowed the VHS from the library a while back and enjoyed it, but it helps to already be familiar with the plot of the book (i.e., it might confuse someone who hadn't read the Dickens novel). Cast List Nigel Hawthorne ... Stryver Bernard Hug ... Gaspard Norman Jones ... Defarge Kenneth More ... Dr. Jarvis Lorry Barry Morse ... St. Evremonde Chris Sarandon ... Charles St. Ovremonde (Charles Darnay)/Sydney Carton David Suchet ... Barsad Peter Cushing ... Dr. Manette Alice Krige ... Lucie Manette Flora Robson ... Miss Pross Valérie de Tilbourg ... Seamstress Billie Whitelaw ... Madame Defarge Then there's another re-make--a Masterpiece Theatre one--that you should like, released on DVD late last year: Cast List James Wilby ... Sydney Carton Xavier Deluc ... Charles Darnay Serena Gordon ... Lucie Manette John Mills ... Jarvis Lorry Jean-Pierre Aumont ... Dr. Manette Anna Massey ... Miss Pross Valerie Leon ... Madame Defarge |
Pamy | Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 08:55 pm     Car..I think the reason Pascal is upset is cuz he thinks they are going to vote Neleh out, thus giving her the immunity. I have been back and forth between vee and Pascal to go, after this I am leaning more towards Pappy!
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Hippyt | Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 09:36 pm     Pamy,why would you think Vee is the one to go this week? Just curious... |
Weinermr | Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 09:56 pm     Sia, Thanks for the info on Tale of Two Cities. I'll have to check out these other versions. The cast in the Chris Sarandon version sounds wonderful. FYI, Chris Sarandon is Susan Sarandon's ex-husband. That's how she acquired the last name. |
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