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Squaredsc | Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 09:42 am     julie i disagree with you. in MY opinion, even if sean, nick, or gervace were working all day and all nite, the one minute they stopped would be the minute we would see over and over on the show. in fact we have seen it over and over. that's what editing is all about. the media (now i am talking all forms of media) only shows you what they want you to see. case in point, when someone in the 'hood is shot or robbed or there was a domestic violence incident the media will always, always interview the black person who doesn't have all of their teeth, can't speak english, and sounds ignorant. and that is the viewpoint they want you to have of that area and the viewpoint they want you to have of balck people. same thing in a poor white neighborhood, they will pick one white person with no teeth, can't speak english, and sounds ignorant. do you really think that all black people are on welfare, drugs, etc., and that most of the poor whites intermarry and drink all the time? 'cause that's what the media shows us. so yes i can blame mb 'cause it's his show and he is showing us what he wants us to see. ok im off my soapbox for now, maybe we need to start another thread?  |
Julieboo | Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 09:55 am     Square, I really do not have that viewpoint of black people. No way do I think that all black people are on welfare, drugs, etc. The media may show SOME of that, but I think you should not insult our intellegence by assuming that is how most white people (or people on this board) think or feel. Like I said before there are all sorts of people in all sorts of colors. |
Julieboo | Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 09:56 am     You know Square, Sean really could be lazy! |
Squaredsc | Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 11:16 am     yes julie he could be lazy. but you all don't get the fact that he has said he is not going to do something 'cause someone told him to do it. (i know im not phrasing this right but i hope you get the point.) it's a control issue not an issue of im not doing anything just for the he!! of it. and im not assuming that most of the white people on this board think that. if i did then i would't be a part of this site. but the media does shape PUBLIC OPINION. not just yours. |
Fanny | Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 11:29 am     Hi Square! I'm inclined to agree with you that Sean has control issues (based on what we're being shown, of course). But that doesn't make me like him any better than when I perceive him as loud, combative and lazy. And what a dumb place for Sean to have his control issues come tumbling out! Not only do I see him as an alpha ass, now I also see him as a "YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME" little kid. Assuming that he's being edited correctly (and we all know how accurate the editing is), this guy needs to grow up! Thanks for the insight and for helping me to see Sean more clearly! Hope you have a great, sunshiney day. |
Julieboo | Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 11:40 am     Okay, then it is a control thing, but the bottom line is that Sean is not contributing. You could call that lazy or stupid or stubborn. It is up to each individual to make up his or her mind. So by seeing what we have seen, (which is Sean doing nothing), we can decide whether he is lazy or stubborn or whatever. It doesn't mean any more than that. Okay? AND I for one, did get the fact that he said he isn't going to do something 'cause someone told him to. Actually I find that worse than being lazy (IMO). Man. And whether or not Sean is lazy, (or stubborn or ???) why does race have to come into the equation? |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 11:42 am     If it a control issue, then Sean should have taken control of HIMSELF and just joined in to work. If you don't want to be shamed into working, work! Ask what you can do.. or.. stay home. and here it is definitely a great, sunshiney day |
Bidasea | Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 12:03 pm     I personally don't give a flying fig about the Color of Sean's beautiful skin..He is either very lazy, or just being edited to look lazy..Either way, he is not contributing to the good of the tribe. I also didn't care about the color of Brandon, Lindsey, or Kim P.s skins while they were stringing beads instead of working. Lazy is as Lazy does...I think part of the problem here is that each of these survivors is a winner in their own lives. It isn't easy to finish college, get a teaching credential, and find a job teaching. Sean is probably very well liked, and respected in his own world. All of these people had to go thru a great deal just to be selected to be on the show. It must be hard to be thrown into a mix of people not of your choosing, and be able to cope.I would have had a really hard time relating to Big Tom..I know how editing can change the way a person is seen on the show. Lex is my neighbor, and he is terrific.. |
Yuhuru | Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 04:26 pm     I don't like Sean at all, BUT... I do enjoy his tribal council voting remarks. When he voted for Sarah he said that he loved her like a play cousin. I hadn't heard that in ages. Also, who would imagine that we'd hear these words on Survivor "Look here, playa" I'm just trying to find the good... |
Underdog | Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 05:20 pm     Finally some of the members are starting to get the big picture. Previously, I tried to get the point across, If you are going to dislike sean dislike him for his actions not apply the tag " Lazy Black Male". To say Sean is lazy is up to each individual but that tag cuts like a knife. Sure you are free to say whatever your little heart desires after all you see the world through your eyes only. Hippyt: I've watched the show from the beginning, don't really care for it, in my opinion it shows society at it's worse. I only watch 'cause my wife is hooked on the show and turns from the game when I leave the room! Mindyrama: No, I'm not just trying to push some buttons. What I am saying is take a few steps back and view the whole picture. Sean Has a tremendous EGO, combined with that tough New York attitude, among other things. But I still say that Hunter was not impressive! I will give him the credit that he got the most rocks out of the boat. His comment that Sean was the laziest person I take that with a grain of salt for Sean was Hunters' biggest rival. |
Car54 | Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 06:13 pm     I give him credit for making the worst impression on a group of new people I have ever seen. What a fool. And Rob is an sexist a**hole. These guys make Jerri from S2 look like Mother Teresa. I think we now see what great workers both of them are. |
Gina8642 | Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 06:23 pm     I noticed something on Rob and Sean I had not seen before - SWEAT. Their bodies were glistening with hardwork - at least for a few hours. I totally agree MB/CBS can make anyone look lazy if he wants to, everyone sits down occasionally. But I now truly believe the knucklehead Maraamu were lazy because: a - they are complaining the Rotu work too much. b - the Rotu are complaining that the Rob and Sean are not working enough. We never saw them complain about work ethic before about any of the original Rotu. Ergo - these two really don't like to work much. It is not amazing editing - it really happened . . . |
Soeur | Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 06:39 pm     Those two were good for a couple of huge laughs tonight. Listening to Rob's take on his fellow tribe members - amazing. Imagine if he ever trained his laser wit on himself. Rob and Sean are so immature, like two foolish boys. They are definitely the comic relief. What about when they planned a fake hike to the other side of the mountain where they would then flop down for the day? Their timing as a comedic duo is pretty tight. |
Snee | Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 11:56 pm     okay. what's a 'play cousin'? huh? btw, sean BUGS ME BAD! i think his relating hard workon the island to slavery is offensive. if it's a joke, it's not funny. it bugs me bad when people relate trivial things to slavery, the holocaust, rape, etc. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! |
Kep421 | Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 04:17 am     Ok...if I remember this correctly, I will try to explain a "play cousin". A play cousin is someone who isn't your cousin, but you love like a cousin and consider them like family. I remember having play sister's, play brother's, play aunties etc. when I was growing up. Hope that helps!! |
Fruitbat | Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 05:21 am     If you don't put it out there it cannot be caught on tape. Does anyone really believe the cutting room floor is filled with Rob and Sean doing chores and being kind and respectful? |
Julieboo | Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 06:50 am     EXCELLENT point Fruitbat! |
Bidasea | Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 06:53 am     LOL Fruitbat..No it's filled with Zoe sitting under a tree, and Sarah when she was wearing her turtleneck sweater. |
Julieboo | Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 07:39 am     Okay, let's start a thread about what ended up on the cutting room floor.... |
Mindyrama | Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 07:56 am     I think no further evidence needs to be shown..last night's episode speaks for itsef..we saw what Sean and Rob were all about...Sean actually played the slavery card...unreal. Oh and their comments on Tammy, "she's ok, as long as she keeps serving us" *vomit*..yes, they make great villians, the ones we love to hate. I can't wait to see them go down! And Rob's nasty 'queer' comments about John....uh, yes, they just 'edited' it to MAKE him say that..he never actually said it! Whatever! as for what got left on the cutting room floor..um.. how about Kathy getting booted? LOL! Wasn't she suppose to go?? I really have got to stop putting points on that woman, I'm now convinced she wins this game! |
Cinnamongirl | Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 08:00 am     Well Underdog, I've taken a few steps back and guess what? I dislike Sean FOR his actions and his lack of action. Is that okay? And it seems to me that Sean is the one to bring race into it, that little slavery bit last night was unbelievable. (and not his first comment about race either) Sean and his little friend Rob are definately two of the most unlikeable Survivors ever,right up there with Jerri and Sue, IMO. MB did say there was a villian on this show, what he forgot to mention is that there are actually two. |
Hippyt | Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 08:09 am     I'm all in agreement here,foget the editing..these two bozos have shown us what they're all about! |
Wink | Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 08:10 am     >>>Sure you are free to say whatever your little heart desires after all you see the world through your eyes only.<<< Well Underdog I'm not looking thru rose coloured glasses. Sean's tirade last nite was embarrassing and totally off base. If the goal of Survivor is to "outwit, outlast, outplay", that chip he is carrying on his shoulder is a game piece he needs to put away. |
Kep421 | Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 10:04 am     What bothers me most about Sean is the way that he insists that everyone see him first and foremost as a black man, and then see his other qualities as secondary. That is why he keeps reminding everyone he is black. He even said on the first day...to the camera...that he is there as a representative of his black community. Now normally, I wouldn't have a problem with that kind of statement and in fact I was quite impressed with his statement at first. Because when someone chooses to publicly represent a group they belong too, be it racial group or any other kind of group, that person is usually very careful in their actions so as to not have anything negative reflect back on the group they have chosen to represent. I even thought, "Wow...that's so cool that he is going to take this opportunity to try and change some attitudes..." I had no idea he would single handedly try to setback the race relations in the country by half a century. Sean may think he is representing the black man as a strong individual who refuses to submit to white rule, but by constantly using race related terms he is connecting his race to all his negative qualities. In people's mind he is becoming the stereotypical "lazy, shiftless, militant, angry black man". I have no problem with Sean the individual as a lazy, shiftless, condesending, arrogant man. I do have a problem with Sean's statments causing everyone to view him as the black man who is lazy, shiftless, condesending and arrogant. I'm not saying that Sean has to be an angel because he's a black man on TV, I'm saying he should not be insisting that others look upon him as a representative of the black male community. I'm married to a member of the black male community, and trust me, Sean is no representative of my man. |
Xxlt | Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 10:17 am     i think sean has a valid point about slavery. imagine hanging in the 'hood and being forced onto an airplane for a trip to an island that you may never go to in any other ordinary circumstance. upon your arrival you have to work and hustle to make it to the end of the show..... where he'll be rewarded with a small amount of financial freedom.....smacks of some kind plot against him......i mean he's being threatened with being tossed off the show........again, a case of keeping a good man down......... he should get a lawyer and sue.......If he can't hack the show, you must let him go..... |
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