Tammy on stilts
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Ironman | Sunday, April 28, 2002 - 11:46 pm     Was it just me or did Tammy already know how to walk with stilts? If you noticed she wrapped her arms around the front of the stilts instead of just holding on with her hands. She went off to practice by herself so the others would not be able to see her. During the IC she jumped off as soon as the others fell off. This leads me to a larger question. Did MB specifically pick this challenge knowing Tammy knew how to stilt walk? Remember in SIII when Lex kicked butt in the word scramble because he knew the language? HMMMM |
Fruitbat | Monday, April 29, 2002 - 04:20 am     I doubt MB knew but I thought she must have, at least, fooled around with them as a kid. Practicing by herself was the tip off. She didn't want others to see the correct way to place their arms. None of them picked up on that after watching her win a round either. |
Realtvfan | Monday, April 29, 2002 - 06:00 am     I don't think MB specifically picked the stilts IC knowing that Tammy had an understanding how to stilt walk. To me, it turned out to be just the opposite for MB. MB is now unhappy he did not save the stilt walk IC until there were just 6 left. MB a) had the opportunity to anticipate that the "group of 5" was going to vote out Zoe first and the General second this past week based on both Kathy's influence in the group and the understanding by everyone that the General's physical strength make him a threat to win any kind of strength-based immunity. b) would have wanted to keep Tammy under the radar until there were 6 left. Watch to see what the IC is when there is the "group of 5" and just 1 left from the "gang of 4". That's when MB wants to really skew the IC to keep the 1 left from the "gang of 4" standing to disrupt the plans of the "group of 5". We all saw how MB "hid" the last totem pole piece behind the rock from Gabe when the other tribe had to win that RC as a prelude to taking the materials from the other camp for the SOS IC to keep 4 in that tribe for 3 more days. MB lucked out that "Dumb and Dumber" did not know how to row a boat, which made that race much more exciting. Now both MB and the "group of 5" know that Tammy is a player by winning the IC in a row. Now the one member of the "gang of 4" who wants to play (Tammy) is out there as a big target every week. Tammy has to run the table of IC from here on out, just like Kelly and Colby did. The General is potentially sliding by with a pouty attitude, instead of a player's attitude, for 2 weeks by not winning IC challenges until he absolutely needs them. For example, Kathy appears to never come close to an IC when she does not think that she needs it. Tammy's winning the stilts IC puts a big target on her back, and potentially takes a strong player out of the game a little too early for MB, when she might have slid by for 2 weeks under the radar. |
Kaili | Monday, April 29, 2002 - 07:36 am     RealTV, Tammy was far from under the radar before the stilt challenge- she will go the first chance they get. I do however think MB may have had knowledge about her being able walk on stilts (it would be the perfect silly talent to put on an application or audition tape). I also thought that the totem challenge was set up to allow Maraammu to win (I thought he didn't want that tribe to get too small before the merge- they were down to 4 already and if they continied to lose there could potentially have been a "final two" for that tribe before the merge)- however I posted that thought here and it was not well received. Nobody agreed with me. I guess I'm more of a skeptic in that I do believe some elements of the show are staged. I love it anyway though... |
Realtvfan | Monday, April 29, 2002 - 08:02 am     Kaili, I completely agree with you about the totem challenge. MB practically stated out loud (with the use of the camera shots) that there was one totem hidden from Gabe to gave the other tribe an advantage. I guess I'm just as much a skeptic as you are. I still think Kathy wanted Zoe to leave first and Kathy would have the needed infuence with the other members, so that Tammy was on safer ground without the IC for this past week anyways. |
Sia | Monday, April 29, 2002 - 09:28 am     I have to agree with those of you who feel MB purposely chose the stilts-walking challenge in order to give Tammy an advantage in the immunity challenge. I believe that her ability to walk on stilts would have been included on her application. Anyone want to look at the application form to see if there is an area for special talents like that? As for her including such a stunt in her audition tape, that can be researched. I can't look at the Survivors' tapes with my computer, but maybe someone else here can do that. Any light you can shed on this will be appreciated. Thanks. |
Grooch | Monday, April 29, 2002 - 09:33 am     If it was listed on her application or on her tape, don't you think MB would have edited it out so we would never know? I also believe that he hid that piece of totem in a place where Gabe couldn't see it. And the Lex/Swahili thing was unfair too. |
Kaili | Monday, April 29, 2002 - 10:07 am     I don't think they would let us know if it was on any formal application- it would be too obvious that it was an unfair advantage. Here I am contradicting myself, but you are right. It couldn't be something we could actaully find out about that easily. However, once she was picked in the secondary interviews or whetever they do she may have mentioned it (that way they have no hard proof that people could come back). I forgot about the Lex thing. |
Squaredsc | Monday, April 29, 2002 - 10:54 am     i thought that i read on one of the articles/chats with zoe, she said she hadn't been on stilts in a long while and that these stilts were different from the ones she had used before. so it would appear that she knew how to walk on them, at least she did at one time in the past and it could have gone either way. but it was a little odd that tammy was the only one who had her arms in the correct position and no one else tried to copy that. |
Kaili | Monday, April 29, 2002 - 01:46 pm     The arm position should really have been obvious to at least someone- it just makes sense to brace yourself rather than hold the tops where you have so little control. How wonder how long they were given to practice. With that many people someone, you would think, would have tried it the right way while practicing (besides Tammy of course). |
Grooch | Monday, April 29, 2002 - 01:57 pm     I wonder why no one went and followed her. I wouldn't have let those stilts out of my sight. |
Kaili | Monday, April 29, 2002 - 02:03 pm     That is weird, I hadn't thought about that. Why wouldn't anyone question why she wanted to do it alone (including Robert)? Considering how poorly they all did you would think they would all want to practice more and not let Tammy run off with them for who knows how long. Plus since they all practiced together and she didn't join them you would think they would have questioned that, unless she pretended to be bad at it in front of them then said she needed to be alone to concentrate. I'm surprised they didn't get more than one set to practice with also. |
Squaredsc | Monday, April 29, 2002 - 02:34 pm     or they just didn't show anyone else practicing alone with them and only focused on tammy. |
Webkitty | Monday, April 29, 2002 - 02:43 pm     I took it that the rest felt confident in their position and didn't feel the need to win this immunity. That was why they didn't really try. Robert has given up, and is weak from not eating. (remember in the beginning he said the lack of food was really effecting him?) Also, I would think that when someone goes on Survivor, they sign away any right to control what MB uses, either from their application or even just what they say while participating. They are fair game, so to speak. Tammy may have put stilt walking on her application, and MB may have used that, we probably will never know. Either way, Tammy gave it her best shot. She took the oppurtunity and it turned out ok for her. In this episode, she was the underdog, and overcame almost certain explusion. You know MB just loves those types of story lines! |
Gina8642 | Monday, April 29, 2002 - 05:03 pm     I already posted this before, but I know how to walk on stilts. It is not difficult. We did it all the time in gym class in elementary school. It wouldn't have occured to me in a million years to mention it anywhere as a talent of mine. Where I grew up, it was about as special as knowing how to bounce a basketball. Only if they asked me spcifically about it, would I mention it. And, I would have said I wasn't very good at it - 'cause I'm not. But I could have beat any of them, except for maybe Tammy. As far as practicing. I think they had those stilts for an entire day to practice on. It wasn't just a few minutes. So Tammy had plenty of time to wait until no one else was interested in using the stilts to take them out of sight. Now, after I've been bragging about how easy it is, I do think they'd need more practice then just at IC after seeing Tammy's arm position. Tammy was also smart to get off the stilts as fast as possible after each win - giving them little opportunity to see she was in control. Only with Vee, did we see her stop her motion and still maintain complete control. That was the only time she made it completely clear she knew what she was doing. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I don't think MB/CBS is manipulating or choosing IC's based on who they want to win. If that was true, Rob would still be in the game, he is way more amusing then any left now. Same for Gina. IMO, MB/CBS attempts to choose 16 people who they think will be entertaining enough, no matter how far any do, or do not, make it to keep people watching to the end. It doesn't matter to them who wins. |
Fruitbat | Monday, April 29, 2002 - 06:41 pm     I agree with that Gina. |
Sia | Monday, April 29, 2002 - 06:50 pm     I found it interesting, Gina, that Tammy stopped, as you said, and stood perfectly still on the stilts, waiting for Vee to fall off her stilts. She (Tammy) looked quite confident as she did that, and I thought she had a quick little smug smile when Vee lost her balance. I think it would be much easier to keep one's balance while standing still instead of trying to walk. Notice that MB didn't make the challenge for the Survivors to walk a certain distance on stilts; they just had to outlast each other. Tammy seemed to know and understand that and to use it to her best advantage. |
Misslibra | Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 04:40 am     I didn't care for the Stilts challenge. I thought MB could of did a better job in picking a challenge. I'm not at all saying stilts aren't hard there was just no substance to the challenge. Those of you who said MB might of did this to help Tammy might not be that far from the truth... I don't know I think it falls under the catagory of things that make you go hmmmmmm... |
Bohawkins | Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 08:15 pm     I grew up using stilts. They are easy to use if you know how. Placing your arms around the front would not be beneficial at all, unless you just wanted to stand still, which is what she mostly did. I think that the rules were not good. They should have said... you have to take a step each time, and not stand still. But, they evidently did not. I think Vecepia would have won it, had she thought to stand still. She thought you had to walk around. A few years ago, I walked on some stilts which I had built for my kids. I found (again, as I had as a child) the best way is to have one of your hands on the very top of each stilt. Tammy was just lucky that no one else grew up using stilts. |
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