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Micknrc

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 04:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
AAAAAAAAhhhhhhhh!


John is NOT LEX!!!!!!!

Car54

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 04:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
No Mick, he just plays him on TV.

Bat, on the CBS site, it says Neleh, Pappy and Kathy are upset about Gabe going (next week)

Fruitbat

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 04:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Now that I stop to think about it, of course they would be! Trouble in paradise. They must have felt secure thinking that the merge would bring them back to their loving team. The fact a Mar did not go is unsettling.

Fruitbat

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 04:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This will be facinating when they merge.

Resortgirl

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 04:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Micknrc, I can't believe we have to defend Lex again! LOL!

On the previews for next week they showed pappy's suprise at Gabe being out and he said, "he was such a nice kid" or something to that affect.

I didn't like Gabes responses to John questioning him about his loyalty and the fact that he wasn't there to play the game but I don't think he was a particular threat to John or Rotu at this point in the game, Rob and Sean ARE!

Micknrc

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 04:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, okay, I just answered on the other thread!


I know RG, and I'm trying to figure out why....

Fruitbat

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 04:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have noticed that some and compelled to compare current players with previous survivors. Don't know why that is, either. I see no similarities with Lex and John. In fact they are very different.

Resortgirl

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 05:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know why either Fruitbat. In fact I think the Survivors that have been on the last 4 shows are SO different from one another, they are all true originals!

I just can't stand by and watch my beloved Lex be dragged through the mud again!

Micknrc

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 05:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow, head over to CBS.com and check out all the extra footage this week. I've noticed that it's been increasing bit by bit but this week there's a lot of VERY interesting stuff. I think maybe with no insider they've begun to throw us a few more bones on the website. During S3, there was never any extra footage on the website--it all went on the insider.

In particular, Tammy on John's strategy for me puts to rest the "John is Lex" comparisons. Apparently John wanted Gabe out BEFORE the previous IC--He came to Tammy with some story about Gabe talking smack about her (I'm sure) and wanted her to vote Gabe out with him, etc. Tammy said I'm not agreeing to anything until we lose IC and have to face it and we didn't lose but now we have.....

I don't remember Lex willfully spreading disinformation in an effort to manipulate others. In fact I remember it being done to him with varying degrees of success (T-bird MamaK, etc.)

Squaredsc

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 06:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
\2UURRGGHHH, MIKE BOOGIE IS BACK AND HE HAS MORE HAIR}

sorry folks had to get that out. i was surprised at the way the old rotus turned on gabe and i think you all are right that he wasn't a physical threat but last year the nice guy won, so maybe it wasn't such a bad thing after all that he got voted out.

i am starting to like rob. i know, i know he is a butthead. but he is playing very smart. but his accent is driving me up a wall. also kathy is driving me up a wall, i can't stand that screeching. sorry had to get that out too.

it was a very good show last nite, lots of twists. i felt sorry for new rotu for loosing all their stuff which in turn made them lose ic. but next weeks previews seem very interesting. any guesses for who is out next?? i am going with john.

Squaredsc

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 06:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
sorry i messed up my formatting the above header should say this...

UURRGGGHHH, MIKE BOOGIE IS BACK AND HE HAS MORE HAIR

Demeter

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 06:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
John put a target on himself by openly boasting about his "leadership" abilities.

Fruitbat

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 06:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Me too Square. I am liking Rob more these days. (I like his accent) I also enjoyed Seans eye rolling at TC.

I am going with John too. Rob and Sean do not like the take charge type and they seem to be calling the shots somehow. ????? In fact I, cautiously, say I am rooting for them. That would put Vee in position to actually win this thing.

Can't even venture a guess as to what the merge will bring.

Shakes

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 08:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Demeter, I couldn't agree more. It is way to early in the game to play that dirty. Especially in Rotu; supposedly so loyal to each other that their tribe-mates, now banished to Maraamu, were (are?) confident they would THROW CHALLENGES to keep the tribe in tact! Those kinds of manuvers need to be saved until after the merge.

When Pappy, Neleh and Kathy get back (I believe they will all make it to the merge)and want an explanation for why Gabe was ousted before Rob, Sean or Vee, everyone is just going to point at John -- if, in fact, he even makes it to the merge!

John's "Everyone knows I'm running this thing now" quote in the clips for the next episode just cracked me up. Tsk, Tsk John -- pride cometh before a fall. Truth is -- all John really managed to do last night was level the playing field for Rob, Sean and Vee.

Fruitbat--good call on Rob. I'm sure the persona he uses with the others is that very funny, entertaining, somewhat dumb guy that makes him appealing. Even though I do think he's a narrow minded pig in reality, I believe he can out manipulate them all. I cautiously root as well.

S4 is beginning to be as entertaining as S1 - great personalities, characters, situations. Maybe it's just something about the beach.

Wink

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 08:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
John's "Everyone knows I'm running this thing now" seems to foreshadow the Godfather thing quite nicely. Bang. Or not.

Seamonkey

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 08:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe Gave had a deathwish and did throw the challenge??

Demeter

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 09:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't care for Rob, but at least his "Godfather" comments were to the camera and not in the middle of tribabl council with every member of the tribe present! That was pure stupidity on John's part.

Mssilhouette

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 10:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay I've had a night to fully digest the last show of Survivor. I think Vee, Sean and Rob are actually playing a pretty smart game.

Now mind you, I don't really care for Sean and Rob but I do like Vee.

Let's take a look at what happened. You come into a new tribe and you've bascially broken up a family of the "Goodie-Goodies" (GG). Everyone thinks the "Evil Invaders" (EI) must go.

One EV does as expected, sleeps it out and basically throws the game. Surely the GG's know that this is the one to go. Of course the answer is obvious. EI has one member that can break through the hardline by being nice and friendly, she can easily get them to warm up to the EI's
Now a member of GG starts to chat with one of the EI, they have fun together.

Now then suspicion has been cast on this member of GG. Uh oh, what will GG do? We can't have a break in ranks we need to get the EI's out!

From just the action of the EI's being friendly to the most open of the GG's caused them to start questioning themselves and in the end vote out one of their because of suspicion.

It also helped that the EI actually told that GG member what his tribe had planned. So in the end the EI's looked honorable by telling the intended victim.

The GG's now have to look at the self appointed leader's action and now the focus is on the remaining GG's and not any of the EI's.

I'm sorry but that's not bad thinking in a game! (Not that everything was planned that way, but some of it was)

Rob said that Vee was good at "kissing a**" and her skills at adapting and being friendly made her a better part of the tribe and a better at infiltration.

Also it wouldn't surprise me if their signal making ability was sucky on purpose. (Yeah I know that might be a stretch) But it did help EI's cause to start the GG's to attack each other.

As Gabe (I think) said the EI's brought THE GAME with them. As much as we might not like 2 of the EI memebers, they did at least show the GG's that it is a GAME and they came to play.

So now look for John to go bye bye. Somehow I'm thinking maybe S4 is gonna be like S1 where the least liked person may win. :) But don't hold me to that predicition. I'm rooting for Vee.

Squaredsc

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 11:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i'll cosign that mssil. im thinking that john showed his hand too soon and will be held accountable especially since he considered himself the leader and voiced that to everyone.

Myjohnhenry

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 01:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
John did show some signs of regret and trepidation at tilting his hand last night so it will be interesting to see how much he keeps it out in the open (preview of Rob asking if he had stupid on his forehead not withstanding since we don't really know the circumstances behind that)

I will have to think some more about who might go next...lots to comtemplate. Spoilers suggest that Sean is around a bit longer and we still have those who have received minimal fact time.

Tntitanfan

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 01:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think John tipped his hand way too early AND drew a target on his back at TC! Perhaps he needs to ask someone if HE has stupid written on his forehead!

I was so glad for Maraamu last night! Winning the reward challenge was HUGE! And then the IC started the pot boiling over at Rotu!!

Tksoard

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 01:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL TTF! Good stupid comment!! Last night when Mar won the RC, I was really happy for them. Then when they won the IC, I got chills all over. To just think about how happy some people can be for making someone look at them.

Whoami

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 02:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You know, when Maraamu won RC last night, I was actually surprised to find myself crying, literally! Then I started to rationalize why it made me so emotional. I think it has to do with being in a consistant losing situation, to the point of feeling helpless, and giving up subconsiously no matter how hard you are conciously trying. Perserverence, overcoming an almost impossible obsticle, and sheer determination did it for them. It's a lesson we can all take into our real and daily lives.

Buttercup

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 03:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Very wise words, Whoami :)

Buttercup

Moondance

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 03:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was cheering right along with them... great post Whoami!:)