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Nagster | Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 06:29 pm     My interpretation of "Survivor" would mean the person most likely to be able to survive if alone. Someone who would survive the rigors of being stranded in a strange locale and be able to take care of themselves regarding food, water, etc. Instead, it is nothing more than a popularity contest IMHO. Speak your mind -- you're out. Never mind that the person voted out could most likely outlast the others with regard to plain, old survival. If you don't keep your mouth shut, don't smile a lot, don't lay about playing sloth, you lose. "Who's Popular" would be a much better name for this show. Or how about "How to Lose Friends and Alienate People?" I will now go and eat something sugary to rid myself of the bitter feelings I apparently harbor. |
Ketchuplover | Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 06:34 pm     I forgive you |
Tksoard | Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 06:37 pm     Well said, Nagster!! Last night, my hubby said just about the same thing, except he said that if he was playing, he would REALLY be a survivor and leave the camp and survivor on his own. He would build his own fire, find his own food and water, and build his own shelter. Then when the game was all over, he would jump out and declare himself the soul survivor!!! Do you think it would work? I don't, but he was so cute when he was saying it!!  |
Kizz | Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 06:38 pm     I think you'll be happier watching "The Amazing Race" |
Knightpatti | Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 07:30 pm     Yes I was very disappointed in this tribe that lost immunity tonight. In Africa they keep Clarence around to help them as a tribe at least even though they wanted him gone. It seems to have become a popularity contest and the lazy ones are surviving. |
Hippyt | Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 07:37 pm     Yeah,well if the lazy ones boyfriend had done what he knew was right,instead of keeping his funbags around........awww nevermind! |
Moondance | Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 07:43 pm     I think Sean & Vee see the alliance that was between Pat/Hunter/Gina and Sean thinks he can sway Rob now over to their camp... Sean & Vee voted Pat off to take away the power from Hunter/Gina ... either way I am not crazy about Sarah, Sean, Vee and Rob now! |
Knightpatti | Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 08:20 pm     Question is Rob using Sarah? He said that he choose her. I do not like Rob, Sarah, or Sean right now. |
Spygirl | Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 08:37 pm     I think that Survivor is getting old, and I agree with your synopsis, Nagster. I also agree with Kizz that you'll be happier watching The Amazing Race. I only watch Survivor for the deadpool unfortunately. I try not to say anything negative about Survivor so as not to take away from anyone else's enjoyment (because to each his/her own), but TAR is where the excitment is, IMO, and Big Brother is where the psychological and human interaction is !!!! |
Nagster | Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 09:59 pm     Lest anyone think I'm picking on the Survivor show, let me hasten to dispel that thought. I will definitely continue to watch and enjoy it. My whole point was let's call it what it is -- that's all. What I'd REALLY like to see is 12 or so people who don't know one another dropped off somewhere like the Marquasas and each having to live absolutely alone, fending for themselves. The reward challenges would bring them together and the best at the challenge would win that one. Same thing with immunity. If it ends with one person winning, why can't it begin with each person being with themselves only, surviving on their own merits rather than on a team? The person who did the worst in the immunity challenge would automatically be booted off the show. No voting, no alliances, no backstabbing. Just let the show be about who survives alone the longest. Do you not agree that it could be very enjoyable to watch each player, in their own way, survive? Or win challenges? Think of how having nobody to talk to, plot with, etc. would impact each player. Now it's team against team. But when a baseball player has a bad day, do they kick him/her off the team? If they don't particularly like a player's personality, do they get rid of him/her? Or, call it what it is -- a popularity contest, period. |
Mygetaway | Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 10:11 pm     >>Think of how having nobody to talk to, plot with, etc. would impact each player.<< I know what you mean Nagster, and think you have a good idea, BUT, I also don't want to watch 13 weeks of Castaway. Tom Hanks could pull it off, but I don't think I'd enjoy watching Sean or Sarah alone in the wild..LOL I agree there should be another way to do the votes, rather than by "popular" vote. |
Joan | Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 11:14 pm     They ARE struggling to survive but in more of a social Darwinistic sort of way. |
Seamonkey | Friday, March 08, 2002 - 12:10 am     They are only working to survive for a known, finite, length of time. They are not trying to develop a society or work together. Isn't there another show soon to start where the teams are to work together to win?? Anyway, I still watch this, but must agree totally that I enjoy TAR much more. I also think that Probst is working hard to encourage exactly what they are getting.. his comments and questions at tribal council are actually slanted to bring out answers that could easily doom the person questioned.. I'm not sure that I like anyone at this point. |
Oregonfire | Friday, March 08, 2002 - 12:50 am     What I'm noticing is that Kathy, who everybody hates, is the one who pushes to get things done in her tribe, like getting the fire started and building the shelter, things which benefit everyone. But because she was too pushy, she'll soon get the boot. That doesn't really seem fair to me. (maybe it's the editing too) I do know that watching that Guy (Gabe?) make her cry was pretty uncomfortable for me. I wouldn't last more than three tribal councils if I were on Survivor, that's for sure! Anyway, Big Brother is more my bag. I even miss chronic complainer Nicole, for criminey's sake! And them stuffing down that fish was really gross! I agree with the Social Darwinism point. Don't ruffle any feathers, and you'll get along just fine. |
Kitty | Friday, March 08, 2002 - 01:04 pm     You may want to check out the new show called "No Boundaries".... it's very good. |
Cablejockey | Friday, March 08, 2002 - 01:12 pm     I agree with Nagster about the Popularity aspect of Survivor. It amazes me how the men can run things, get stuff done without being labeled bossy like the women seem to. |
Whowhere | Friday, March 08, 2002 - 01:18 pm     Yes Kitty - good suggestion. No Boundaries is similar to Survivor but seems a bit more team-oriented. Here's the link if some of you want to check it out. There's only been one episode aired. http://www.noboundariestv.com/ |
Resortgirl | Friday, March 08, 2002 - 02:07 pm     Survive: 1: to live longer then 2: to remain alive after, not die during 3:to sustain the effects of and continue to live; outlast I think that the game does reflect that definition. Alive, meaning to remain in the game, not die meaning not getting voted off. There is more to survival then just finding food, water, ect. It also means being able to adapt, not only to your surroundings but in the case of being "stranded" with other people to be able to adapt to them. Everyone in the game comes from different backgrounds, has different life experiences, ect. and in order to get along each person must be able to accept and embrace the differences. The ones who are to rigid and insist on "being themselves" will be ostracized and in this game , voted off. I think that the best players learn to become Chameleon-like and can be what each person in the tribe needs them to be. That's just my own silly opinion though! |
Grooch | Friday, March 08, 2002 - 02:12 pm     So Susan was right. Only the snakes and the rats survive and then the snake eats the rat.  |
Resortgirl | Friday, March 08, 2002 - 02:14 pm     I think for most it would be foolish to go into the game thinking they could just "be themselves" I know my butt would be booted right away if I did that! |
Tksoard | Friday, March 08, 2002 - 02:29 pm     RG, I like your silly opinion. I never thought about looking up the word to compare it to the game. Smart you!!  |
Resortgirl | Friday, March 08, 2002 - 02:36 pm     Thank you Tks! |
Nagster | Saturday, March 09, 2002 - 06:05 pm     Thanks, WhoWhere, for the link. I had never heard of that show before and certainly will be watching from now on. That and TAR will surely be my favorites! |
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