Aussiedeb | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 03:18 am     I just went over to CBS website and everyone voted for Gabe. He voted for Rob. So it was 7-1 to kick him off. |
Mindyrama | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 06:54 am     I can't beleive they chose Gabe over Rob and Sean...I hate that those two are still in the game. And poor Gabe, he remained loyal knowing his friends were booting him. Dummy! LOL! |
Grooch | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 07:04 am     If Gabe had answered John either yes or no, when John asked him "Are you going to vote to keep Rotu intact?", he would still be in the game. The rest of his original tribe are there to win the million dollars. Gabe was noncommital to them when he was questioned. That equals him being a loose and unpredictable cannon to them. They are already under enough stress and don't need some tree hugger screwing up their plans. So they had to boot him. For their own piece of mind. I'm sure it would have been better for them to get rid of a marm for the long run, but these people are stressed out and haven't eaten or slept well in a month. If Gabe could have stated what his intentions were, he would still be there. |
Car54 | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 07:10 am     I totally agree...I was screaming...shut up and answer the question, Stupid!!!! It was the evasive double talk that made them uneasy. If he had clearly and simply answered what they were asking instead of trying to explain something...he would have stayed. This is Clarence all over again. Smart, a leader, competitive and his own worst enemy. |
Grooch | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 07:12 am     I liked Clarence. |
Fruitbat | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 07:32 am     He went on there to emerge as the "shining star with integrity". That was his agenda, I am convinced. He has not a clue that instead he radiated arrogance. He is young. He will change. |
Grooch | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 07:35 am     To bad Hunter beat him to it. (And he did a better job at it.) <<He went on there to emerge as the "shining star with integrity". >> |
Car54 | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 07:46 am     I was thinking last night...the good thing is he will really enjoy his time at Loser Lodge with Hunter...they have a lot in common. I liked Clarence too, and I liked Gabe, but they just didn't know what game they were playing. |
Whoami | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 09:58 am     Double talk must just be Gabe's thing. He did it when being questioned by John, and he did it again on the Early Show! Could it be that he's done it for so long, he doesn't even know he's doing it any more? |
C1mag | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 10:33 am     Sheesh and I saw hints of Greg in this guy. I was convinced when he sat there playing with the coconut that he was coconuts himself. How can you give up your life for that amount of time and say that you are not there to play the game? Clueless!!! What was up with the freakin teddy bear? We started laughing so hard when we saw that. Sort of like that Baby Jane character hahaha! Players like Rob, Sean, and John are the ones that need to stay in this game. It makes for some GREAT TV. You love to hatem and we will be watching for their demise. |
Tksoard | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 11:12 am     On Talk of the Town (local Nashville) he said that the Teddybear was to remind him of good things if the going got bad. Something like that. He also was embarrassed with his rap!! Good, he should be!!  |
Juju2bigdog | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 11:28 am     Obviously there was a lot going on with Gabe that the editors never showed us. I think Rotu had it in their heads for quite some time that Gabe would be the first one out. Tammy was the most telling one of that. She said when she voted, "Gabe, you have made it clear from the start that you are not here to play the game. You are not here to win the million dollars.?" Last night's editing seemed to suggest that if only he had answered John's questions differently, he would have stayed. I think not. He was always the easy choice for Rotu to vote out because he didn't care about winning. The rest did. People's sense of fairness won out in the end. In re: jerks Rob and Sean, they just said to themselves, why not let these jerks who care so much about winning have a chance over someone who does not. Maybe. |
Pamy | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 12:12 pm     If the rumors of Gabe and Sean's friendship are true, then maybe Sean is next, they seemed to bond during there BoogieRap last nite, so maybe Sean's next and they become great friends at Loser Lodge
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Gina8642 | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 12:29 pm     From C1mag: <<Players like Rob, Sean, and John are the ones that need to stay in this game. It makes for some GREAT TV. You love to hatem and we will be watching for their demise. >> I have to completely agree with you here C1mag!!! Last night was the best episode since Brandon hoodwinked Kelly right out of the game. I'm actually kinda rooting for Rob/Sean/Vee now. It will be a much more interesting game if they stick around. It isn't that I don't like the folks on Rotu, but Pagonging is BORING. I'm also rooting for Gina/Kathy/Pascal/Neleh. They are sooo outnumbered and out classed. Like the little train that could. |
C1mag | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 03:05 pm     I agree gina I think this is one of the better Survivors. I put it up there already as number 2 compared to the first show. There is the possability that this one could surpass it. Robfather and John with Sean in the mix are making this one real good. Give Gina a chance to get in the mix if they merge and we could have some real sparks. These people want to play thats for sure. I have two confessioins. I like Kathy and I hate to admit this but I'm a little sick of Paschal. She's a hard core competitor and he's a bit too lovey dovey for me. No one should enter into this game being concerned about another contestant. When they are gone they are gone and you need to move on... |
Gina8642 | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 03:59 pm     Yeah, C1, but Pascal's dissappointment in the Rotu 4 may cement his bond with Kathy(I like her too), Neleh, and GINA. That will make this season all the better!!! |
Hippyt | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 04:24 pm     The thing I wonder about it,with all the interviews and screening these people go through,how could MB NOT know Gabe was looking for a paid vacation,and wasn't willing or even interested in playing the game????Why would he put someone on the show,who is there for the reasons Gabe was? And the editing they did to hide the fact that Gabe really wasn't even in the game until this episode is incredible!!! All of Rotu knew he wasn't going to align with anyone,but did we?He just got incredibly lucky to have a team that was winning,otherwise he would have been gone a long time ago! I'm enjoying the show,but was disapointed to find out MB is now giving away free vacations to "contestants." |
Gina8642 | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 05:36 pm     Hippyt, I used to get really upset by that too. But last season I really came to realize that MB casts a variety of people. There are always a few who arn't there to win or play the game. Gabe was one of them. I think MB likes it that way. Keeps it hard to predict the actions and motives of the tribe members. Last season it bugged the heck out of me that what's-her-name wouldn't reallign with Brandon, Frank and Teresa after Kelly left. That was so stupid and it cost one of them a million bucks. You are right that the editing completely hid Gabe's philosophy on the game. But there were some hints outside of the actual episodes. Gabe's video on the island pre-game said he would decide who to vote for only when he had to. And when he did, that there would be probably be easy choices like the weak and the sick. (That doesn't sound like alliance strategy to me.) Another hint was that long article about his home town of Cleo. I think Car posted it here somewhere, but I saw it via SinLinksAlot. Cleo is an alternative community. I was suprised someone who grew up in a place like that would be very cut-throat. Well, turns out he's not. I also think it is possible that Gabe lied to a certain extent in the interview process. Tried to make himself sound more competetive. I think it would be hard to maintain the lie all the way through their interview process, but it would get his foot in the door - enough to hook the bait on his personality. (Kelly from Africa lied to them - it worked for her.) We saw early on that Maraamu had their share of different strategy types and it turns out Rotu did too. MB/CBS just didn't need to show it 'til it was Rotu's turn at Tribal Council. |
Yuhuru | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 05:50 pm     Hey Guys, I thought that I read in an interview thread that the game changed for Gabe once he got there. I'm not sure if his initial intention was this whole lovey dovey society. |
Pamy | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 06:48 pm     CONFESSIONS OF A S4 FAN I like Kathy too!!!! I hated her at first and thought she would go early but now I think the 4 little Rotu have a strong bond, I actually got tears in my eyes when they won last nite!(of course I am also PMS-ing!) I also enjoy watching Rob's silent manipulation of everyone.
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Cliotheleo | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 09:39 pm     The fact that CBS was airing promos of Survivor as a Godfather-esque kinda thing makes me wonder if Rob's not gonna be in this thing for longer than everyone hopes (except for me of course because I think he's adorable.) Seems odd that they would make a big deal of the "Godfather" issue for just one or two episodes, especially since we didn't see much of Rob "Don" side last night. ........ I would love nothing more than to see him win this thing by laying back in the cut and pitting everyone else against one another, picking them off one by one. How very "Will Kirby" of him. Hey, Tksoard. We must be neighbors. I live in "the boro." Tksoard |
Whoami | Friday, March 29, 2002 - 11:33 pm     Well, maybe we'll have two "gangs," with Rob the head of one gang, and John the head of the other. Two Godfathers battling for supremacy. Yeah... |
Gina8642 | Saturday, March 30, 2002 - 02:25 am     Clio What about his talk with Gabe in the shelter? - I thought the "Robfather" was going strong last night. Sorry I don't remember the exact phrasing... "I'm going to make you an offer you can't refuse...." His little talk about voting with S/V/R against John. I thought I was watching the Sopranos. It was great, very amusing. Didn't work, but great.... |
Cliotheleo | Saturday, March 30, 2002 - 06:34 am     Gina, yeah, I remember him saying something like "I'm going to explain to you the situation and you can decide for yourself if you are comfortable with it." But that was the only part, I was dissapointed. :-( LOL! Sorry, Tksoard, I wasn't trying to sign my post with your name, I just lost control of my copy and pasting and didn't see your name in there twice. Whoops! |
Fruitbat | Saturday, March 30, 2002 - 07:59 am     I predict that when Rob does go they play the Godfather theme as he leaves TC. |
Pamy | Saturday, March 30, 2002 - 09:00 am     I think MB reads these boards and saw how we were all talking about the ROBfather and decided to throw that commercial together, they could easily edit one of those in a day or two. So, I am not sure if that is a sign Rob is in for the long haul, but I too would like to see him stay, just like Will, I loved to hate him, but secretly wished he wouldn't get voted out each week because I enjoyed watching him so much
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Sallycat | Saturday, March 30, 2002 - 05:39 pm     Will had WIT Rob is a half-wit |
Nanya | Saturday, March 30, 2002 - 07:33 pm     It appears that the "lovefest" at Rotu was a sham.Some fangs came out when their feet were to the fire. John was the "angel of death". I think that it will be great fun to watch him and Rob try to outsmart? each other. After the merge, I would still like to see the women in an alliance. Have a great Easter everybody!  |
Nagster | Saturday, March 30, 2002 - 08:10 pm     It's just possible that the Rotu tribe figured that since Gabe was getting so very friendly with Rob and Sean, Gabe would give everyone a hard time when they vote off Rob or Sean. Did anyone else in Rotu go out of their way to befriend Dumb and Dumber? |
Llkoolaid | Saturday, March 30, 2002 - 08:55 pm     How would we know, they only show us what they want us to see. I found it strange that on one show they show Sean going off on Gabe and on the next they show Gabe getting friendly. I think John might have been threatened by Gabe from the start and saw this as his chance to get rid of him. |
C1mag | Saturday, March 30, 2002 - 10:44 pm     So if R loses the next Immunity who do you think is toast? I'd hate to see the Robfather lose right now. I want to see this man go at Johns dilusional theory that he is in control. How could the Robfather gain the upperhand? Tammy? |
Fruitbat | Monday, April 01, 2002 - 04:11 am     I see an old Mar going. I just don't think John's self appointed leadership is a problem for Tammy or Zoe. They like their lower key position and may be greatful to John for stepping up to the plate. Old Rotu will stick together. There is no logic to support anything else. Robert could align with the Old Mars but I dont think so. Wonder if the merge will happen later than we expect. MB promised 3 twists, hard to tell what he considers a twist though. The switch is certainly one. Previous votes not counting could be another. No supplied food could be the other. Or we could be waiting for 2 more. |
Squaredsc | Monday, April 01, 2002 - 06:13 am     >>There is no logic to support anything else.<<< exactly fruit, there has never been any logic in this game since colby threw it all away on S2. i think i am going with john being out if rotu loses ic. but once again i will wait for acme.  |
Fruitbat | Monday, April 01, 2002 - 06:29 am     Ok, that sounds good Square. I drive myself nuts with deadpool because I am so easily swayed. Seriously though, I fear we may settle down to pagoning at some point soon. |