Seamonkey | Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 09:19 pm     Oh I also thing that Paschal has had time to observe Sean on his own, I really don't think he is relying on What Gina said or condemning him because of Rob. |
Hippyt | Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 09:37 pm     So,why do you think Paschal said Sean winning would be an embaressment? Just a question,I'm open to any new ideas.... (Maybe that he sees Sean as lazy?) |
Seamonkey | Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 10:05 pm     I think it is that, and the complaining. Not contributing, skating through.. but of course, I'm not Paschal. <really> |
Pagal | Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 04:41 am     And why do you think MB used the sound bite of Paschal saying that Sean winning would be an embarrassment? Is he setting us up for the fall? Could we see Sean taking F2 or maybe even the win? An ending like that would have everyone dropping their jaws. |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 05:05 am     I think it is because Sean is in the minority and has been since the merge. It would show Rotu in an embarassing light, not to have been able to pull off a shred of solidarity to vote off the underdogs! Pagonging has been routine up until this season. Paschall is probably irritated that old Rotu did not embrace them on their return and created upheaval instead, leaving Sean in some degree of power right now. And that sound bite is key to where Paschall will go when given the opportunity. Sean saved him this time but Paschall is looking to seperate himself. He will jump out of that alliance in a heartbeat unless Neleh beats some sense into him again. |
Squaredsc | Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 06:07 am     lol nanya, you crack me up...pass some of that marguerita to me in the suck playa's thread, i need it right about now. p.s. grooch was nice enough to show me how to get the animated joker and i love it |
Moondance | Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 10:05 am     >Sean saved him this time but Paschall is looking to seperate himself.< Huh??? Sean didn't save Paschall! Pappy was never a threat to go... John and Sean were on the chopping block last go round not Pappy. |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 10:35 am     I meant joining Seans alliance. I type fast and leave out details. He mentioned earlier that he didn't want to join an alliance with him so I was just making note that linking up with Sean and the others saved him from making a mistake. Neleh really saved him by opening his eyes to the obvious. |
Moondance | Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 10:49 am     I don't see it like that Bat... He did NOT join Sean's alliance. He voted John out... I still see it as a vote against John and to get his power out NOT a vote with or for Sean. Yes, Neleh opened his eyes to it. |
Car54 | Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 11:03 am     Moon, I tend to agree with you. I think it was in Sean's and Pappy's common interest to vote John or some other Old Rotu off. I think if anything Kathy probably brokered the deal if there was one, but I seriously doubt that N&P and S&V had any kind of arrangement. I do not think these two two-man alliances are together. They may need to team up to preserve their positions for now, but they are not working toward any common goals. |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 11:10 am     Moon and Car. Yes I agree with you. Sean and Pappy are not a team. Their only link is that they both voted John. I am calling all John voters an alliance for last week. Verbal shorthand. Everything shifts each week, noting is solid here. |
Awareinva | Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 11:12 am     I agree Car- this is a lot of small alliances this season rather than the four and five solid to the end like we have seen since the original master Richard Hatch figured it out. I think Neleh, Pappy and probably Zoe are allied; Sean and Vee are allied until Vee sees Sean being targeted and then he is on his own. Tammy and Robert may be now a group of two (although this weird thought just occured to me in another thread that maybe Zoe and Robert are closer than we think... could be but probably not). Kathy is the swing vote and I think Zoe has been trying to keep her in line.... this is why we keep seeing their relationship and why Kathy is so worried about Zoe, not Tammy or Robert. This is a whole new pattern than we have seen the previous three seasons, which became kind of cookie cutter with a few twists. Mark B. must just love these people from Marquesas! Hope he is giving them a bigger cut for renewing failing ratings!  |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 11:12 am     In fact I believe Sean goes next week illustrating that there is no lasting deal with Sean for anyone except maybe Vee. I love this show. The constant shifting is fabulous entertainment. |
Moondance | Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 11:20 am     I agree Aware! You are right, Bat...Good show this season! |
Car54 | Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 01:02 pm     All right I have to go back to work. I want everyone in the Survivor folder to put your heads down on your desks for quiet time for at least 15 minutes. No cheating. I smell smoke! |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 01:03 pm     LOL! Read the Plottin and Plannin thread. We all need an actual recess. |
Car54 | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 06:57 pm     Ok, now we know why Zoe was mad that N/P were twisted.... not because she really liked them, but because she disliked the people she was left with. Hmmm... |
Hippyt | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 07:07 pm     And she feared for her own butt..........a little too late there Zoe! |
Fruitbat | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 07:19 pm     I am thrilled to see her go. Don't like that woman and never did. Something I cannot put a finger on. |
Fruitbat | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 07:20 pm     Robert out next I suppose. |
Car54 | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 07:33 pm     Not if Tammy doesn't win immunity. She better be working out! I think Robert will make his peace with Pappy soon. He is a pretty simple guy and I think he will see the others picking Zoe as a vote of confidence and he will stop sulking. And he has not come close in one IC yet...if Tammy doesn't win she has the big target still. |
Fruitbat | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 07:45 pm     Yes, on another thread I said I though Tammy would win again and again. She is gone the very minute they get the chance. It is time for a non physical challenge so maybe. |
Moondance | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 10:08 pm     Well 3 more days for Robert/Tammy to bond again with Pappy & Neleh... I felt the love with Sean & Pappy but I am still not sure he is sold. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 11:25 pm     Ah yes.. time will tell and change is guaranteed. This survivor has been so good.. I'll miss it and I'm not one who thinks recycling past survivors is all that.. I mean it will be better than no survivor but not as good as a new batch. But for now, just need to enjoy this one. |
Urgrace | Friday, April 26, 2002 - 02:19 pm     Pascal and Neleh said there are no more alliances, everybody will be voting their own way. This is what I've been hoping would happen, but will be surprised if it works out that way! |