Episode 13- Finale
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Twiggyish

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 07:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I see Sean as saying why work so hard? He saw this as a game from the beginning. To me, he put it in the right perspective. I didn't see him as chauvinistic at all. Vee certainly didn't have to do anything for him. She is not a weak woman. To imply any differently is an insult to her. Just my 2 cents.

Ketchuplover

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 07:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
KATHY RULES :)

ps. Can anyone here please remind me who won No.3? I can see his face & I know he played soccer,but Ijust can't remember his name lol :)

thanks

Pamy

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 07:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ethan

Twiggyish

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 07:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ETHAN!!! Oh my how COULD you forget.

Llkoolaid

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 07:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Weinermr, where did you get the energy to type all that and how did you get it all down without repeating yourself. It was hilarious and I loved it. Thanks.

Sia

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 08:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Weiner, perhaps some people could understand your post better if you supplied detailed Venn diagrams along with it, LOL! It made sense to me. My spin on it is this: Sean is definitely a male, he exhibited a partiality to inactivity, seemed to enjoy his status as dominant-male and the rights/privileges accompanying such, but I wouldn't call him a "pig." I don't know if he's typical of any particular group or sub-set of the American populace, but he was fun and interesting and said some outrageous things. (Did he wear the same shirt--dashiki??--on all his post-boot interviews??)

Prettywomen

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 08:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well we all have our opinion but pappy is not racist....Neleh has been doing alot of work...Everyone of the survivors who got booted off complained about Sean and Vee being lazy...Pappy and Neleh are just getting tired ....YOu would be tired as well if you had not had anything to eat with protein, carbohydrates etc...these guys are all so tired...Kathy is ok but I just didn't like it that she was a know it all...She thought she knew everything about anything...I do like Kathy but I don't think she she sshould win..Here is my choices again:
Neleh 1st place
Pappy 2nd place
Kathy 3 rd Place
Vee 4th place..

Good luck everyone hope your happy with who wins...I am so excited about survivor I just love it and can't wait until survivor 5 comes on wished I could go but diabetese hold me at home...

Prettywomen

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 08:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
let all watch it and see who wins good luck to all for their choices...We are all unique that is what makes USA so special we can all have our own opinions and still respect everyone else too...I respect all you guys opinion and wish you all good luck on your picks...........

Webkitty

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 08:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Car, now you going to make me have to go watch my tape AGAIN because I don't remember any glances between Kathy and Neleh. My poor old vcr!

I understood what you were saying Mr Weiner..

I don't think any man that speaks that highly of his mother could be a chauvinist. He is a male, that's for sure, but a human, and not a

Yuhuru

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 08:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
<Everyone of the survivors who got booted off complained about Sean and Vee being lazy>

Really?!?!?! You and Jane Clayson have something in common...you like to use the word everyone to represent a few.

<Neleh has been doing alot of work.>

This could actually be possible, but I don't know. I don't think it's been edited that way. Everyone who's gotten booted off hadn't mentioned that Neleh was a hardworker, but I guess it's possible.


Go Kathy !!!!!!
If not Kathy, then Vee because I want Prettywomen to eat her hat, as promised.

Seamonkey

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 08:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well said, PW.. I don't think stereotyping any one of them is a GoodThing[tm]

I'm watching the repeat now of the last episode and Sean did put the race issue out there.. it wasn't Neleh and Paschal.. first Vee put that issue out to Kathy (who already knew she'd be a swing between N/P vs S/V.. but suddenly heard that if she chose N/P it would be white vs black..) Sounds like a bit of a guilt trip.

Then when Neleh was stating her position that S/V must have a bond, having been together the whole time, just as she and Paschal had been.. Sean couldn't let her finish but shouted her down and brought in that others thought he and Vee were allied because of race.

Now, all is fair, including that issue, to play with others minds and I don't doubt for a minute that all five of them want to influence things their way.

I don't see Kathy thinking she's superior.. in fact some of the things she says surprise her.. like that anyone would see race pairs or that neleh and paschal were allied, well duh.. I do believe she might also be playing her game well, being "surprised".

Good for all of them.. some angles may backfire, and they really don't know which ones. Immunity challenges can throw a curve-ball.

The Jury.. remember WE are all spoiling and brainstorming and reading exit interviews and gathering tons of info that they DO NOT have.. And of course they probably know some info we don't know. But I don't think they have a clear idea of what the jury is thinking..

So.. kathy, neleh, paschal, vecepia (alphabetic order) GO FOR IT!! ALL of you!! I promise to celebrate no matter what. I promise to leave your ceiling fans up and never make you hang onto a pole again.

Sia.. I didn't tape.. I thought the Dashiki on Rosie might have had more navy blue in it.. but I don't know.. I know it looked really nice and I hate the color orange, but still it looked good on him and like it had been pressed very nicely.

Bat.. that is interesting about none of the boards picking Kathy.. I went somewhere today and saw her name listed alot and in my mind that was to win, but maybe they were saying she was next out??? Right now on deadpool I have her winning two immunities in a row (well the next two, I guess three) and being the final winner.. So maybe I'm off in left field?

Weinermr

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 08:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks to everyone who understands my ranting.

Sia, I WOULD have posted Venn diagrams if I could have! LOL

Seamonkey

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 08:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
TC on the repeat: I must remember to look for glances.

When Sean said "me" about wanting immunity, Neleh looked at Sean.

While Sean is trying to convince them that because N/P have a pact, then he and Vee must need a pact (he also mentioned two African Americans) N looked at P who.. shook his head.

when P is pointing out that S is saying at TC that he and Vee.. not just he could guarantee kathy to stay.. Sean gives exaggerated eye-roll..

Sean now talking fast, neleh staring at S, Vee nodding, Paschal gave, not an eye roll but equivalent for him.

Sean now talking about hidden pact P/N.. Kathy, Neleh and Paschal all arguing with Sean..

Sean ranting, Kathy covering her eyes, saying he is putting words in her mouth.

blablala.. neleh pipes up and then Kathy says let it go.. ok.

So far I haven't seen Neleh look back at kathy.

Sean is voting for Neleh.. girl next door playing for million
Neleh voting for Sean too much drama
Paschal voting for Sean great competitor
Vee voting for Neleh great girl but started too late (eh??)


Kathy

N
S
N
S

neleh looks at Sean

Sean.. N looks forward and smiles.

Sean leaves, Vee plows kiss.

As the four get up, Neleh does look in back of her, which could be at Kathy, but that is the only possible time.

However she did look to her right at Sean often. kathy was in back of Sean.

So.. not that it matters. but..Thar tis..

Now to catch that episode of Trading Spaces :)

Seamonkey

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 09:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Weiner.. a POX on Venn diagrams!!! eeeeek!
sorry.. old programmer here..

Angelnikki

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 09:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
weiner i loved your post :)

Seamonkey

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 11:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Weiner, how as the Manilow extravaganza?? Was the mrs ecstatic???

Weinermr

Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 11:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Angelnikki - Thank you.

Seamonkey - As I posted in the Ultimate Manilow thread, Weinermrs was in seventh heaven and really enjoyed the show. And it turns out I enjoyed the show too, but my biggest pleasure was watching her enjoy it. I knew she would! Thank you for asking.

Fruitbat

Sunday, May 19, 2002 - 04:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think if there is any surprize to this ending Vee would be it. And that could be what Hunter refers to. Not all that big from where we sit but in the scope of things she merged as an underdog. That is certainly nothing we would have expected at the start. We were braced for the pagong.

Prettywomen

Sunday, May 19, 2002 - 09:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yuhura, it is everyone, look at all the today shows after people got booted off...YOU don't know what you are talking about....Just because you like VEE and want her to win...She should not win she don't deserve it, period...She probably will win tho because Tina did the same thing in the outback she rode along and she won....But I certainly hope someone more deserving wins...Pappy has done alot he is smart and he has done the work...Neleh is so sweet I just love her...Kathy is nice and I like her as well and she did work her butt off...Vee I like her as well but she is lazy and she did ride on the shirt tails of Sean, and I just don't see how she deserves to win...But I do wish you good luck on your choice as I wish everyone good luck on their choices and I do hope THE BEST PERSON WINS...I will except who wins as the best...GOod luck all

Prettywomen

Sunday, May 19, 2002 - 09:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hunter should have won but people were jealous of him that is why they voted him off...He had the skills to survive. Some of these people don't try to catch food, don't get water, don't clean or make up camp...Why should they win they vote out the people who should really win like on survivor 1 Rudy should have won he was a navy seal and he did the work .....Like on survivor Two That fellow should have won instead of Tina he worked hard won alot of challenges and Three was the person who deserved it won Ethan...he did work he was a survivor...

Prettywomen

Sunday, May 19, 2002 - 09:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yuhura, I do hope they all have good luck but these are my picks again

NELEH---1st place
Pappy-----2nd place
Kathy-------3rd place

Vee----------4th place..