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Gina8642

Sunday, March 24, 2002 - 11:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Square,

Yes, you were. I thought the exact same thing when I watched the Episode. But if you go to the CBS website and watch Vee's video clip, she makes it clear that the "drama" she was talking about had something to do with Rotu (Tammy, John and Gabe off the top of my head - but I could be wrong about the Rotu names, I watched the clip yesterday.)

Sean volunteered to find out what the drama was about - that was where his convo with Gabe came in.

Watch Vee's clip and Roberts clip. I think they are illuminating.


MB/CBS has been putting all the air time into the self-destruction of Maraamu (because it is good ratings). But plenty has been going on in Rotu as well - it just hasn't been shown. Plenty of time for that later.

Fruitbat

Sunday, March 24, 2002 - 11:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Good catch Gina. All your points make perfect sense too.

Moondance

Sunday, March 24, 2002 - 12:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
GREAT catch Gina... thanks!

Urgrace

Sunday, March 24, 2002 - 04:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I concur Gina!

Squaredsc

Sunday, March 24, 2002 - 05:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
thanks gina, it will give me something to look at when im supposed to be working 2morrow.

Awareinva

Monday, March 25, 2002 - 07:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
V is the "No Drama Mama"!! Hope the strategy keeps her alive to the merge.

Micknrc

Monday, March 25, 2002 - 11:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
My take on that clip was that Rotu was huddling off, running to and fro and talking about something (Sean's allusions to "Roots", Rob's queeah pronunciation, which Moo is toast first?) and the moos assumed that it was about them (go figure). Sean goes to them and asks and they say "Oh no, we're just discussing what to serve you guys for dinner, yeah, yeah, that's the ticket..."
Vee's inference is that she takes them at their word that "they (oldmoos) aren't in it" (Like what would Gabe and Tammy et al. say? "Yeah, we're trying to figure out which one of y'all we want gone first"?)

The really interesting part of this clip to me is just as Vee is starting to explain what the drama actually WAS,
Quote:"I don't know exactly what provoked it. Some people said..." suddenly there's a jump cut to: "Tammy wanted to talk to Gabe... bla blahblah"

What didn't they want us to hear about what Vee heard the drama was about? (Okay, my prose has officially veered into convoluted and tortured phase) (or was it innocent but irrelevant babble that was cut? hmmmm)

Squaredsc

Monday, March 25, 2002 - 05:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ok i have seen the clip and like mick said, it was cut and we aren't sure what specific drama she was talking about, could be something between tammy and gabe, could be about the new rotus, could be anything and we can all perceive something different. and our perception is our reality.

i perceive that the old rotus could have been trying to talk stategy. i would like to believe there is something underhanded going on since all we have seen of them is love this, love that. i would love it if there was some dissention in the ranks but i don't believe it is so, yet.

Discoinferno

Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 04:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, in Episodes 4-5-6 Vecepia did not do much.

Twiggyish

Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 05:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Richard Hatch predicts Vee to win. He likes her stategy. I agree with her strategy, too. She is getting along with everyone and staying out of the spotlight.

Discoinferno

Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 09:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Episode 7:

V did not say much, but did comment that there was too much drama <tm Vecepia Towery... call 1800 Vecepia to purchase your own too much drama t shirt>

She then voted for Rob!

Hippyt

Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 09:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She'll be the first Survivor who never said anything. Richard Hatch predicts,ROFL...

Seamonkey

Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 10:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Now, now.. she prays and she answered JP's question at length at TC.

And she ran her looped "too much drama" tape for us.

Car54

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 12:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Rob was modeling himself after evil doctor Will, I think Vee has seen Monica. Sit on the sideline, comment occasionally... play backgammon, smoke.... worked on BB2.

Discoinferno

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 06:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
And in the next episode, V says, "It's not what you say it's how you say it... It's AWWWWWN!"

Squaredsc

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 09:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
no i think vee is too passive to try to be like monica 'cause monica would have met drama with drama. i was liking vee a little in the beginning, but now i don't really feel her. she has this holier than thou attitude that irritates me. i would love it if monica was on survivor, she would have made the top 2 at least, imo.

Car54

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 09:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I must have really missed something because I was so excited last night, why is everybody mad a Vee? I am not a fan, but several posters here and on other boards are mad at her...is it because she voted Rob?

Why are we mad at her?

I want her to DO SOMETHING! Not just sit on the side and mutter "too much drama". But I am not mad at her.

Just feel like I missed something.

Seamonkey

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 10:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Car, I'm puzzled after last night.. not by the show but by the board.. Rob is just too cute so it is ok that he lied and lied and lied and lied about lying.. but Zoe is now evil incarnate???
(Yes Rob was more interesting, as edited)

And Rob was just playing his game, Gabe was playing HIS game,but Vee plays her game and she's no good (but, she's still there and she's on the jury, they aren't). Comparisons to Monica make no sense at all. (to me)

Kathy is histrionic, easily swayed, not able to trust her orignial feelings, seems to attract dirt like like Pig Pen character in Peanuts, she's strident, unpleasant and jumped alliance in a heartbeat.

I thought the morning show was a puff piece, we learned nothing at all. He's still cute as a bug, though I found myself missing his villian mustache :) I hope he reveals more in other interviews. He was certainly more gracious than Hunter and Gina. Seems that some people hold onto things and some people really do say.. it was a game, move on (Sarah, Gabe, Rob).

I'm rambling as usual.

I'm still hoping for some of the others to actually emerge but figure Kathy's drama will dominate at least one more episode.

Time will tell, which is why we all keep obsessing, guessing, spoiling, groaning and
WATCHING.

Car54

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 10:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, Seamonkey, you have thought it out way better than I have...I have been really busy at work (yes, occasionally they actually make me work at work!) and haven't been reading as much as usual... but I see your point.

Personally, I think Zoe is doing great...she is just a bad liar...she probably comes from very direct, straightforward people who are not comfortable with prevarication (sp?). I loved how Zoe behaved during the IC...she was cool, on her game, playful...she is gonna do well. She did not need immunity, so she did not really push too hard for it.

I voted with the pack against Kathy but I never understood why people dislike her...actually if I played the game, I would probably make the mistakes Kathy and John are making... talking too much, over-reacting, way over plotting PLUS, I would be whining big time... I actually respect Kathy more every episode.

I loved her last night and was proud of her. She played Rob like a violin, then she beat him! A lot of her talk is to the camera, and she is really very nutty, but hey, she is still there!

Hope that much exposure wasn't her sign off! Kathy has made people mad from day 1, but damn, she made the merge! Good for her. I would play it for all it is worth.

Vee does remind me a bit of Monica...who sat outside and observed a lot...don't think Vee will "blow" like Monica did. (Hey, Monica made F3...pretty darn good!)

I wish we could see her actually do something or relate to someone.. I am just not understanding why people are mad at her from last night.

God I love this show, and I love reading how everyone else sees things... I am amazed at how many different reactions there are to the same show I saw! :)

Seamonkey

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 10:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That's the truth.. I love all the different opinions (and how we all change them) and feelings. I can't imagine just watching the shows without these boards.

Squaredsc

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 11:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i wasn't mad. but i explained why i am just not feelin her that much now. just seems little too much above it all. don't know who made the monica comparisons though, i was just following. i also don't really like/dislike zoe, just think she is a bad liar. i really have no feelin about her at all.

Car54

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 12:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No, it wasn't you necessarily, I have read a lot of the evening posts here and on other boards and lots of people feel impatient with Vee after last night.....just wondering!:)

Seamonkey

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 12:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was also talking about the whole tenor of the board last night, about Vee, and about Zoe, not any one post, Square.

Moondance

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 01:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I love your ramblings Sea... Have another cup of caffine please:)

Seamonkey

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 01:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Car.. I stole your bat the red one and used it on the Real World board.. then tried 6 or 7 in a row and they are so cute.. they actually synchronize.. from left to right, all smiles then the start from the left to change color, then the wings.. too cool.

Moon, thanks.. hey I haven't even finished my first Pepsi today.. yet.

Squaredsc

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 01:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
just checked out some other posts, and you are right, people have seemed to change their views regarding vee, not sure why the dislike, maybe 'cause she is so hidden??? and doesn't seem to want to participate?? i don't know just guessing. oh and i wasn't taking anything personally just wanted to explain my views.

Car54

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 02:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Seamonkey, you can steal anything I got...I stole it from somebody else! LOL pic

Fruitbat

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 05:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
>>>>i am just not feelin her that much now. <<<

That makes sense Square but remember editing is responsible for just how much we are seeing of her. We will see more soon. She gave excellent diary talks earlier at Mar. She must still be delivering in that area.

My complaint has always been that there is too much footage of the challenges. My interest is in their relationships with each other.

I have seen some angry with Vee because she voted for Rob, thus lied. Some have accused her of playing dirty. Good gracious! I bet the same posters have praised Rob for his game playing skills.

I love the lying and conniving. Watching someone play this game with integrity makes my skin crawl.

Car54

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 07:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Rob said last week Vee was not in their alliance- that he didn't trust her, so how do you say she lied... he knew she wasn't with them, and she wasn't I just dont see the lie.

Fruitbat

Monday, April 15, 2002 - 08:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
~bump~

I am watching this woman. I like her. I fight my feelings of repulsion at the overt Christian trip. I was not raised in any organized religion and find outward displays of this unsettling, foreign and irritating. I am not proud of this. It just is that way for me now. I always aim toward tolerence and this is a tricky area for me. I repeat, overt. Personal convictions are different.

Having said that, I am making a step in the direction of tolerance because I like her from the little I have seen. She seems confident, savvy and definately playing the game. I respect all of that. She still is my choice to win.

There is something about her that is very compelling. I love the way she looks physically too. Kind face, bright, condident and comfortable with herself.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, April 16, 2002 - 12:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think she is lovely.. I'd seriously tell her to lose that hat tho, specially when it is sitting atop her head when she has a ponytail.

I hope we hear more from her and Zoe.

Squaredsc

Sunday, May 19, 2002 - 03:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
vee, since it appears that you may win, and you are definately in the final 4, i thought that we should revive your thread. i really haven't had too much to say to you or about you, liked you at first, thought you did and said some things that made you above the "drama", but its your strategy and apparently it has worked for you. at least you unlike mamakim didn't cause your tribe to lose challenges. but good luck to ya.

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Knightpatti

Sunday, May 19, 2002 - 03:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I do not dislike Vee either, but if she wins I think we will all be scratching our heads and saying how did that happen?