Archive through April 17, 2002
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Archive through April 17, 2002
Awareinva | Monday, April 15, 2002 - 03:03 pm     I voted Kathy off partly because of this tv guide article- seems like dancing would be a better offering if we had teams of male/female. If a female goes this week, next week they can split into teams of two that are male/female: Vee,Sean; Robert,Zoe; Tammy, John; Pappy, Neleh. Kathy is the logical female to go. Plus like Car, I think her arc is way done. Of course, unspoiled I've only gotten two right all season I think the "Jury's Out" deals with Pappy winning reward and going on the reward trip. He looks clean and spiffy, ie. he is duded up to go "out". The other option I thought of is that the title means the first jury member is John who is "out" thanks to the Robfather. Even Mark B. wouldn't be that crass, would he? I could possibly see John going if Kathy and crew wise up to the Rotu 4 alliance..... But I am sticking with Kathy out this week leaving the focus on the two other New Moo's next week for the "Peas in a Pod" episode. I am going to try and resist the editing and see the Pagonging coming. Rob just gave John the excuse to vote him off last time by breaking the agreement and going to Kathy....John really does intend a Pagonging. |
Moondance | Monday, April 15, 2002 - 03:09 pm     I thought the dancing was done for them Aware?... like a show. Maybe I misunderstanding your post... btw... same sex couple dancing... much more fun to watch and MB would have fun with that |
Car54 | Monday, April 15, 2002 - 03:19 pm     Remember Frank and Brandon went on a date. |
Moondance | Monday, April 15, 2002 - 03:20 pm     And that was classic! |
Tntitanfan | Monday, April 15, 2002 - 03:50 pm     Remember Lex and Tom's dinner and night away - hat a hoot! |
Seamonkey | Monday, April 15, 2002 - 03:51 pm     Hmm so it seems that Tammy and Robert will not go this week.. not much of a surprise, of course. I always vote as soon as deadpool reopens, so I know my own gut feel (or hope) early on. I often change it tho. Anyway, my vote, so far, is Kathy gone. |
Gina8642 | Monday, April 15, 2002 - 04:29 pm     I see alot of posts which hypothesize that P/N will join up with Sean and Vee and maybe Kathy. Like Llkoolaid said - 'It is so easy to see what they should be doing sitting in the living room watching tv'. But Pascal and Neleh really lack this perspective. They see themselves as loyal to Rotu. We all saw Neleh resting her head on Zoe, like Zoe was her mom. Sure, Zoe loves Neleh, but that isn't going to stop her from voting her out when necessary. This is why I said Pascal and Neleh need to wake up and smell the coffee. Both claimed to be Survivor fans. I keep thinking to myself -'Surely if they sat down for a few minutes and thought it through, they can see their likely outcome'. What I'm not sure of is if they care. Gabe wasn't there to win. I don't think Pascal is either - he also just wanted the experience. Neleh seems too kind to make the cut-throat moves to get to final 2 or 3. The only way she is getting there is if someone carries her there as part of an alliance. Right now, I see Neleh and Pascal as aiding the Rotu4 in booting Sean and maybe Vee and Kathy. At that time they will realize they are the likely F5 and F6 boots. Off they'll go, saying they 'have no regrets' and were glad they stayed loyal to their tribe. (Ok, I admit it. I'm getting too jaded for Survivor. MB/CBS - please, please, surprise me!!!!!) BTW - I think Tammy's 5 consist of: John Robert Zoe Pascal Neleh With a small possibility of: John Robert Zoe Vee Sean Time will tell..... |
Fruitbat | Monday, April 15, 2002 - 05:23 pm     I agree Gina and LOVE the small possibility. |
Llkoolaid | Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 10:24 am     I voted John but I am really starting to think it might be Sean because he really isn't tight with anyone now. Then again what about Neleh or Paschal what if John is really trying to get rid of them first like he said and then there is Kathy, the lose cannon. Or could it be Zoe? I have absolutely no idea this time. Someone help, instead of all this Acme discussion which I have taken a major part in could we please plot and plan here a little more. Could we argue this out and maybe we can come up with a good guess. The only ones I don't see as a possibility of going this week are Tammy,Robert and Vee. I am voting John again because I am hoping that P/N/K/S/V wake up and smell the coffee. Does anyone think there is a chance of that. |
Wink | Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 10:32 am     I still think Kathy is the "odd" Rotu out and is most at risk this week. Sean mentioned the bond he and John had formed and I have a feeling Sean will stay in John's camp for a bit yet. I think all the drama Kathy was at the centre of last week makes her very vulnerable. |
Grooch | Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 10:40 am     I think Sean is going unless he wins immunity. If he does than Vee is going. The old Rotu will pagong. John and Sean may have a bond, but John really, really wants to win. Sean is a threat to win immunities. It is everyman for himself now that the tribe has merged. |
Nanya | Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 10:52 am     I don't have the benefit of being a long time watcher of the show to make comparisons. I think that John or Kathy are the best bet this week. John has become the "alpa" male that was so disliked at the old moomoo.Sean seemed genuinely wounded by him.....He might be able to swing n/p/k/v to get him off. On the other hand, Kathy has been grating on nerves from the start.and has probably alienated Zoe (and therefore Tammy) by her vote last week. It seems that strategy is suffering and emotions are coming to the forefront. i.e.P/N/S/J/K. If thats the case it could be anybody's game. Whats left is Rob's legacy. Thats my |
Llkoolaid | Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 01:33 pm     You know I think I might go and change my vote to Sean because I was just thinking which is kinda scary in itself. John has an alliance of 4, if he votes out Neleh, Paschal, or Kathy he is proving what Rob said true and whoever is left standing will finally wake up and it will be the 4 that are left against John's 4. John want to have control and win this game so he wants to be in the bigger alliance. I think he will vote Sean first because he is a bigger threat than Vee, N/P/K will think the old Rotu is back together again and they are safe. Next week it won't matter who he gets rid of, He may even keep Vee and but tell N/P/K that he is voting for her, and get rid of Kathy because she is a bigger threat for immunity than any of the rest. Does this make any sense? Just watch I'll change my vote and these boneheads will wake up this week and vote John out. |
Grooch | Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 01:36 pm     LL, it makes perfect sense. I'm voting for Sean myself. |
Llkoolaid | Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 01:50 pm     Ok, I just went and changed my vote to Sean. I think that is probably what is going to happen. |
Grooch | Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 02:07 pm     Unless he wins immunity.  |
Llkoolaid | Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 04:09 pm     I am hoping the pic of the immunity necklace on Tammy is for this week, but I am kinda worried that it was just put out there to confuse us. I keep wanting to go back to John, I just can't decide. It all depends on if Neleh and Paschal wake up and question the Gabe toss. They should have done that last week but with Rob in everyone's face I don't think they really had time to assess the situation. I can't help but think that Paschal should be a better "judge" of people than he appears to be. I think I just might flip a coin on this one. This is what I love about this survivor, I am totally bamboozled. |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 05:54 pm     I'm still pacing and trying to decide if I keep my vote as kathy voted off... |
Llkoolaid | Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 06:00 pm     I know what you mean it could be Kathy, Sean or John or maybe even Zoe. I think it is either John or Sean though because of what I said on my 1:33 post. |
Gina8642 | Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 06:26 pm     Llkoolaid, I like your logic and it makes alot of sense. I'm sticking with Kathy, 'cause she was my first instinct. But I'm worried I'm going to regret it. Personally, I 'd like to see Sean and Kathy stick around a little while longer. Not likely, but I'd like it. If John was smart, he'd use your logic and go after Sean. I'm not entirely convinced John is smart however. He is certainly playing hard, and I do admire that. |
Llkoolaid | Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 06:54 pm     I am changing back to John, I just saw a promo for tomorrow night's show and it said. Watch why this survivor is the best ever. Then it said one group thinks they are controlling the game. Then Sean is talking and he is saying there is a conspiracy going on. Maybe, just maybe they are waking up. |
Car54 | Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 07:09 pm     Did anyone else think Sean was joking in the promo? It looked like he was laughing to me...I just saw it twice. |
Knightpatti | Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 07:39 pm     Can you believe it? They showed constantly commercials for the other shows during TAR, but maybe just once for Survivor. Sean was laughing remember Rob said that he liked to joke around alot. There is still some reason he said it,though. |
Hippyt | Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 08:03 pm     Yeah,and don't you all love the "special sneak preview CBS eyemail." The same commercial!!!! Llkoolaid,I agree with your Sean getting voted out theory. He's Rob's only buddy,he argued with John last week,he has no allies now.Tammy with the IM necklace. If John has any sense at all (and I'm not convinced he does) that would be who would go,just as you said. Doesn't this seem a little TOO easy though? I'm baffled. I have voted Sean off though. |
Egbok | Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 08:54 pm     I dunno, human nature says "pagonging" will occur. I'm sticking with Sean off and hoping that he follows his natural course of not putting much effort into the challenges, therefore, not winning the IC. |
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