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Car54

Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 09:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Go to the top of this thread..
THIS WEEK- The Princess
NEXT WEEK- Marquesan Vacation
3RD WEEK- TALE OF 2 Cities (ep BEFORE final 4)


Just wanted to remind you whatever we speculate, we have 2 episodes before this one...lots could happen.

Grooch

Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 10:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The princess and the pea are Neleh and Pappy. (Since Pappy was a pea last week.)


I believe Pappy is leaving this week.

Awareinva

Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 11:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The more I think about the story- wasn't the bad guy (Car says Sydney was his name) a lawyer? Vague recollection that he defended Charles (hey, I remembered the good guys name I think), but lost. That's how he got into the prison to switch places, and go on to the guillotine.

LAWYER who sacrifices himself.... thinking it's gotta be our Pappy! Aren't most judges lawyers first? So I am thinking that Robert or Tammy go tonight, and the other one goes next week.

This is the final five dilema Mark B. previewed before.... Sean saying just an agreement to get them to final five and then every man for himself. Pappy will sacrifice himself for Neleh. Gotta be it, don't ya think?

And the best of times, worst of times line fits too--- they succeeded in getting the honor patrol (sorry, but that seems to be the common bond with these five) to final five, ie. the best of times, but now are faced with having to vote off someone they might really be friends with, worst of times.

And this would give us old Maraamu vs. new Maraamu- two cities? I think it's gotta be Tammy or Robert tonight.

Weinermr

Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 11:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I always think of Ronald Colman - I know this has nothing to do with Survivor but I thought I would just throw that in the mix.

Grooch

Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 12:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dang, Aware! Now I just may have to go and change my vote.

Fruitbat

Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 01:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Very good boy Weiner, now go find your nurse. She must just be in the other room. Now shoo. You are scaring me a tad.

Fruitbat

Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 01:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Aware, that sounds good to me. Very nice logic.

Weinermr

Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 01:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm not driving you "batty" am I?

Hippyt

Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 01:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think you're on to something there,Aware!

Car54

Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 02:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
THANK YOU AWARE!!!! Gosh, I was getting ready to do a link to the Cliff Notes site! Gosh, I thought this was a popular book!

Yes, the disolute lawyer Sydney Carton sacrifices himself in the place of Charles Darnay, the true love of the beautiful Lucie.

Nessietessie

Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 02:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Do you honestly think Pappy would sacrifice a million dollars to give it to Neleh?
I thought he would be more intelligent
than that. As sweet as Neleh is,
would you sacrifice a million dollars
to someone who you just met?
It's a game, isn't it?

Car54

Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 02:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ep 12 would not be for the million...it would be for Final 5 and 4. Rodger did it for Elizabeth- got her one more week so her pay-out would be higher.

Fruitbat

Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 02:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It could also just refer to the famous quote...."It is the best of times and the worst of times".

I just don't think anyone will be asking Pappy and Neleh who wants to go first. The unspoken agreement is to play the game and play to win.

I expect to see a lot of talking privately. Sean and Vee will try to enlist Kathy to vote Pap and Neleh out........and Pap and Neleh will try to get Kathy for a Sean and Vee vote off.

Weinermr

Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 03:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
A Tale of Two Cities

1935, directed by Jack Conway, this classic story by Charles Dickens which takes place during the French Revolution is, by far, the best adaptation of his novel. It stars Ronald Colman in his best performance who is the very essence of Sydney Carton and includes great character actors like Edna May Oliver and Basil Rathbone. Being done at early sound MGM, its sets are very colorful and the characters are full of life. It captures the essence of Dicken's novel superbly.

Ronald Colman .... Sydney Carton
Elizabeth Allan .... Lucie Manette
Edna May Oliver .... Miss Pross
Reginald Owen .... C.J. Stryver
Basil Rathbone .... Marquis St. Evremonde
Blanche Yurka .... Madame Defarge
Henry B. Walthall .... Dr. Manette
Donald Woods (I) .... Charles Darnay
Walter Catlett .... Barsad
Fritz Leiber (I) .... Gaspard
H.B. Warner .... Gabelle
Mitchell Lewis .... Ernest Defarge
Claude Gillingwater .... Jarvis Lorry Jr.
Billy Bevan .... Jerry Cruncher
Isabel Jewell .... Seamstress

Hippyt

Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 04:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think he would! He was ready to give the game away to John and his bunch,until Neleh talked him into trading camps.

Willi

Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 04:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Weinermr...You are precious.

Re-watching this film would be a terrific way to spend an evening. I watched it the first time with my grandparents...A very nice memory.
:)

Ronald Colman...The man with the velvet voice.

Weinermr

Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 04:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Willi - I love Ronald Colman in any of his roles.

Have you ever seen Champagne for Caesar? It's a comedy, made about 1950, with Ronald Colman, Celeste Holm, Vincent Price, Art Linkletter, etc. It's hilarious. I highly recommend it.

Car54

Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 04:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
*Kathy is torn when she finds a potentially pivotal decision before her.

*While one castaway celebrates jubilantly, Paschal is less than pleased after arriving at an important determination about two tribemates.

*Tensions arise at an uncomfortable campfire meeting and erupt the next night at Tribal Council.

*A twelfth castaway is voted out, determining the Final Four.

Sia

Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 08:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Weiner, there is a 1980 re-make of the same film, starring Chris Sarandon--who did a good job in dual roles. (Is he a brother of Susan Sarandon? I just hate her!) I borrowed the VHS from the library a while back and enjoyed it, but it helps to already be familiar with the plot of the book (i.e., it might confuse someone who hadn't read the Dickens novel).

Cast List
Nigel Hawthorne ... Stryver
Bernard Hug ... Gaspard
Norman Jones ... Defarge
Kenneth More ... Dr. Jarvis Lorry
Barry Morse ... St. Evremonde
Chris Sarandon ... Charles St. Ovremonde (Charles Darnay)/Sydney Carton
David Suchet ... Barsad
Peter Cushing ... Dr. Manette
Alice Krige ... Lucie Manette
Flora Robson ... Miss Pross
Valérie de Tilbourg ... Seamstress
Billie Whitelaw ... Madame Defarge

Then there's another re-make--a Masterpiece Theatre one--that you should like, released on DVD late last year:

Cast List
James Wilby ... Sydney Carton
Xavier Deluc ... Charles Darnay
Serena Gordon ... Lucie Manette
John Mills ... Jarvis Lorry
Jean-Pierre Aumont ... Dr. Manette
Anna Massey ... Miss Pross
Valerie Leon ... Madame Defarge

Pamy

Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 08:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Car..I think the reason Pascal is upset is cuz he thinks they are going to vote Neleh out, thus giving her the immunity. I have been back and forth between vee and Pascal to go, after this I am leaning more towards Pappy!

Hippyt

Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 09:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Pamy,why would you think Vee is the one to go this week? Just curious...

Weinermr

Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 09:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sia,

Thanks for the info on Tale of Two Cities. I'll have to check out these other versions. The cast in the Chris Sarandon version sounds wonderful.

FYI, Chris Sarandon is Susan Sarandon's ex-husband. That's how she acquired the last name.