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Awareinva

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 09:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OK, love child Gabe has bit the big one and Zoe is my new favorite....and I'm addicted to superspoiling, so here goes.

Day 13: Zoe is in the surf wearing a black sport bra, tan shorts, hair in a braid, washing out her shoes. As Rob talks about the tribe having a 5-3 split, Zoe is seen with the buff around her hair like a headband, black bra, whistle around her neck, drinking out of a coconut. She says Mmmm...nectar of the gods, I love it! She is holding a knife in her right hand. As we seen Sean sleeping on the beach, Zoe as above comes into focus behind him, she is making rope. Zoe is making a spear as John talks about keeping his eye on Gabe; shot of her and John talking as she braids rope.

Reward Challenge: Zoe comes in first. She has tied a grey long sleeved shirt over her top- tied high like a halter top, exposing her stomach. She always seems to be carrying a round canteen. Zoe usually stands at the end of the line: Zoe, Tammy, V, John Gabe in the front; Sean Rob and Robert behind. As usual they all put arms around each other. During the challenge, Zoe sits on a bench by Sean,V, Rob- she has a big smile on her face. At the end, Zoe stands by Gabe, looking up into his face- all are very disappointed.

The Raid: As Rotu lines up to watch, everyone has very sour looks, except Zoe...she is smiling like she likes this idea even if it against her team. She looks like she notices that no one else sees the humor and kind of plays low key. We don't see Zoe at all until the Moo are leaving- she gives them a smile. As they walk away Zoe and John are starting up the fire. When Rob bangs the fry pan, Zoe gives a cheer Whoooo!

After John quizzes Gabe and is unhappy about his answer, he goes to Robert (I have no intention of voting you out so don't worry about me), Tammy (I'll kill you if you lie to me) and Zoe.
The first clip of him talking to Zoe seems to be out of context- either quite a long conversation happens or it is a different time altogether. First shot: Zoe has her hair down, blue bikini top, tan shorts, they are walking on the rocks near the water but not in it- both her and John's backs are to the camera. As John's voice is saying that they are shooting for final 4 with him Zoe, Tammy Robert voting in a block, we then cut to what is the real scene of him saying that.... Zoe's hair is up on the top of her head, she is still in the bikini top and shorts but now they are in the water. John says they hope they have Zoe's support, she says Yeah of course you do. John says if not then we're screwed Z- again says Of course you do.

During the "I wanna be Mike Boogie" rap, Zoe is behind Gabe and smiles and jams along. She even sings a little bit. Everyone is in this scene except Robert and John.

Day 14: Zoe wearing black sport bra, tells V and the Stupidmint twins that they just gotta worry about what they have not what the other tribe took. She suggests stretching the rubber raft on the bamboo raft frame, and takes a pretty big role in the building (guess someone had to!!!) When they are done, Zoe has a long grey shirt dress over her bathing suit and V says something about winning one for the gipper- Zoe says the gipper? Who's that?

During the sad pitiful display, Zoe is in a blue bikini waving a flag, her hair is down. She tells everyone to keep going, etc. AFter the loss, she jokes with V about her hair. We don't see Zoe except in one shot sitting by Gabe - looks like getting ready to go to TC- she is not in the "drama" That seems to be left to the men on this tribe :)

At TC, Jeff P. asks Zoe who can lighten the mood around camp. Without hesitation Zoe says Gabe, he gives his little giggle and cheers them all up, etc. As John describes himself as the leader, Zoe nods firmly. She votes Gabe out but doesn't hold the vote up, fold it immediately.

Jeff P says in voting out Gabe you have voted out a guy who is strong, kept your spirits up and worked hard.... we'll see how is plays out.

Preview: there is only one shot of Zoe standing on the end of the row next to Robert.

Impressions: Zoe is smart, strong, and definitely wants to stay UTR. She is more than glad to let John play the leader. As far as her leadership, well, all we had to judge by was her directing Dumb and Dumber....who knows what she really can do. I could definitely see her staring a women's alliance...something I have long wanted to see on Survivor. Hopefully she is here to do more than bring peace and light to the world

Sorry Gabe... I just can't help make fun of you saying you came to create a mini society- the possible acting gigs had nothing to do with it...yea, yea, that's the ticket!! LOL

Llkoolaid

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 10:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Great post, you sure pick up a lot for the little we see of Zoe. I think this girl is in for the long haul.

Joan

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 10:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I dunno, it does say Gabe is from an alternative community or something like that! Maybe his strategy was to have no strategy.

Seamonkey

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 11:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
His strategy was to get face time for his "acting career", methinks.

Squaredsc

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 11:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
great post aware, now i know who she is, i kept saying to myself, zoe, who is zoe. she seems cool for now but anything can change. i can see her in an alliance with tammy and vee, that would be great girl power.

Fruitbat

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 11:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Aware. It is impossible to really get any sense of her as you watch. She is gobbled up by all the action. I know we will see more later. She will be around for awhile.

Seamonkey

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 11:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
bat.. ever since Moon came up with the Zoe website and I went and poked around there, I guess I started looking for her.. still not seeing much, but she shows some really interesting facial expressions.. sometimes you can really read the emotion. Ido hope we see more of her soon.

Grooch

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 11:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Does anyone know if Zoe was wearing the fins onher feet during this conversation? I thought she might have been. If she did, they were discusiing this before the raid, even though on the show, it was after the raid.


<<The first clip of him talking to Zoe seems to be out of context- either quite a long conversation happens or it is a different time altogether. First shot: Zoe has her hair down, blue bikini top, tan shorts, they are walking on the rocks near the water but not in it- both her and John's backs are to the camera. As John's voice is saying that they are shooting for final 4 with him Zoe, Tammy Robert voting in a block, we then cut to what is the real scene of him saying that.... Zoe's hair is up on the top of her head, she is still in the bikini top and shorts but now they are in the water. John says they hope they have Zoe's support, she says Yeah of course you do. John says if not then we're screwed Z- again says Of course you do. >>

Gina8642

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 05:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think a lot of Episode 5 actually happened in Ep 4 time. The "Drama" Vee was talking about, could have very well been the whole John confronting Gabe thing, and/or the start of the Tammy/John alliance agreement. Both of those seemed like they didn't fit either.

Awareinva

Sunday, April 07, 2002 - 09:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Day 16 Rotu
Voice over with the General (I will be calling Robert "The General" as long as Rob remains in the game, just because the names are too confusing) saying that the original Rotu four - him, Zoe, John and Tammy made a pact to be the final four; Zoe is carrying a log, hair down with her buff as a headband, black sport bra, dark shorts; John is saying that he has been waiting for them to lose one (IC) to get rid of Gabe, Zoe is listening, black sport bra over her blue bathing suit, necklaces around her neck, rope bracelets on each arm, hair down, buff as headband. John says reward is where they need their best people, that the IC isn't vital that they go all out Note: I think this is the conversation we see later when John is talking to the General and Tammy about the fact that she needs to throw the IC; I think it actually happens before the RC but they show the part dealing with throwing the IC later in the episode for continuity

The General talks aobut letting John be the target; John doing his skinnydipping, John the baptist act Did anyone else just love this part?? Number one: remember what happened to John the Baptist? and Number two: Shade of Richard Hatch coming back to haunt us!!!LOL All we needed was John to tell us it was his birthday!!

As John bares his soul and his privates, Zoe is seen dressed as above laughing, she sticks her tongue out;

Tree mail: John, the General, Zoe and Tammy getting mail; General opens the bag, Zoe gives a big smile as John says happily "Its gonna be food!"

Rotu comes to RC; Rob,V Sean John, Tammy, General,Zoe; John goes by Maraamu doesn't look at them, Tammy smiling but doesn't seem to make eye contact; Neleh looks right at Zoe, questioning smile, Neleh watches Zoe all the way to the Rotu mat; couldn't tell from the angle if Zoe was making any eye contact (see her from the back of her head);

Rotu lines up as they were walking; Zoe by the General (these two are standing together a lot) Zoe wearing dark shorts, black sport bra, grey shirt tied under breasts, buff as a headband, hair in a braid; as Jeff describes the race, closeup of Zoe, she has small hoop earrings, smiling at Jeff P. licks her lips; as Jeff shows the sierra mist she says "Oh My God!" Does anyone else wonder how many times they make them reshoot these promo shots until the survivors work up enough enthusiasm for the product?? I mean no matter how long I'd been in the wilderness- the Sierra Mist wouldn't be the thing I oooohed and ahhhed over! LOL

As Jeff asks who is sitting out, Zoe has something white looking in her hand, looking at it (maybe a piece of fruit??? I really don't have a clue); As Rob runs Zoe says "Take it easy Rob" but she says exactly the same thing again as he approaches her through some rocky footing; different camera angle; Rob tags Zoe and they run; he is quite a way in front of her, not waiting; Zoe tells Rob to keep his eyes on the rope and watch, because the knots change in the middle as he unties the paddle while she crouches next to him; Zoe busts coconuts but Rob finds the one with the key; she tags John and General, but doesn't give John the paddle, they run back to get it; Zoe and Rob watch John and The General's canoe follies and Zoe says "What are they doing? Sh*t!" Zoe shakes her head when she sees the boat wasn't at the chain, walking away Zoe is last in line again carrying the canteen.

One of my new favorite survivor moments is Kathy yelling "That's right, that's right Rob wasn't here!" after Gina points it out. She was a hoot-- and then when they are pigging out she said "Why were they so grumbly? Would we have been that grumbly?" I bet she would have complained forever if they had been disqualified!!LOL

As Rotu walks home, Zoe Rob and the General are walking last and Zoe says "They'll probably end up with upset stomachs....all that food". The General answers he hopes they puke! Zoe nods as Tammy says we didn't come all this way to eat quiche and chicken; Sean cracked me up with his "You all are the Tony Robins crew out here!!" Zoe says Great Recipe as they eat John's lovely seafood, coconut, taro root casserole. Again SEan gets the prize for the best comment as he says "The chicken would have been better" and "JOhn said you would crap your pants (if they ate all the reward), what else have we got out here but nature and opportunity??" I still don't love Sean, but boy he had all the good comedy in this episode- aside from John and the General trying to row that canoe!

Awareinva

Sunday, April 07, 2002 - 09:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Day 17 Rotu
Rob and Zoe sitting by the fire; Zoe has her hair down, black sport bra, buff as headband, necklaces; she drinks out of a coconut shell, Rob says "Can I ask you a question? You, Tammy, Robert and John, you don't have an alliance, the four of you?" Zoe says "We have a friendship, not an alliance." she doesn't look at Rob, drinks; Rob says "That's interesting"; Now they are standing a distance from the fire; Rob says "Dont sit there and tell me 'I'm 100% honest and everything's 100% legit, and then turn around and lie to me because game or not game, I won't forget it." Zoe is standing listening, scratches her back with both arms crossed aross her chest; small smile on her face, then tries to look serious and sincere as she says "I understand what you're saying." Rob says I don't trust Zoe, at this point I don't trust anybody but myself.

Although this next part doesn't really include Zoe except peripherally, I am going to put it in because I found it very interesting to the plot unfolding
V, Rob and Sean are sitting on the raft, John comes up to the fire and they acknowledge him; then a shot of John, Tammy and the General standing by the raft, John turns and walks off toward the fire; new shot of John V Sean and Rob talking seated on the raft; John admits the alliance; Rob says Zoe lied to his face not five minutes ago; John says it was definitely an alliance to him, Rob makes his "do I have stupid written on my face" comment; John counters with the fact that he knows Rob was trying to get him voted out - Rob says that they were looking for someone, not necessarily John; John counters with a "do I have stupid written on my head" comment. John has the knife in his hand through the whole conversation and waves it about, touches it to his chest several times and points it at Rob several times (I wonder about the undercurrent of that!) Rob denies wanting John out but laughs to make it clear they all know the score; John give his absolute promise that if they merge at 10 the Maraamu will go first before Rob, Sean and V; Now John says that it does freak him out that he doesn't trust Rob. Note: There is a continuity break here...V has gotten up and left the raft, she is now by the fire talking to Tammy, she was here when John made the promise. Rob says to John "What am I gonna do?" and says he will promise that he will not try to swing to the other side, tells him that "straight up", John says we will not try to get the old Rotu to vote you out , it will not happen; he shakes hands with Rob and Sean (earlier he told the General if he shook on it, it was solid....we'll see); it was interesting to note that when John and Sean shook hands, Sean was making some comments, but we don't hear them...we hear Rob talking and saying how John trusts him but he shouldn't.

The scene now goes to the General, John and Tammy talking about throwing the IC- Zoe is nowhere to be seen, but I really think this is a continuation of the earlier conversation. There was no shot of the tree mail or the riddle for the IC this time.. also no arrival or lining up shots. They were just there on the mats listening to Jeff P. Wonder if it was a time factor or if they had some other glitches?

IC: Rotu lined up V, John, Sean, General, Tammy, Rob Zoe (tan shorts, blue bikini top, baseball hat, buff around her neck braid); Rob takes the lead- the General and John halfheartedly clap, Zoe finally claps a little, none of them look happy; at two rungs- John says Way to go Rob, the others just look on; at three- Zoe and John share a pained look and Zoe looks away frowning; Zoe is standing with General and John behind JeffP when he announces Rotu wins; small smiles on all three of their faces while approaching the tower; Zoe pats the idol on the head as Sean and Rob hold it

Preview: Next time on Survivor
JeffP: Tribes merge yada yada
Paschal hugging Zoe (I think),Tammy approaching Rob who is carrying paddles etc.;
Tammy hugging Kathy in a yellow buff;
V in a blue buff hugging Paschal;
Neleh in a purple buff hugging the General saying "So good to see you";
closeup of two hands- my best guess is they are Sean's and John's hands (one black one white- I think they are both men's hands, but the only other combination from the prayer circle in the next shot is Pappy and V; judging from the man's leg in the shot, I think it is not Pappy's skinnier leg but John's);
Prayer circle: Paschal, V, Kathy, Sean, John, General, Zoe,Tammy, Neleh, Rob- everyone has their head bowed except John and Rob who appear to be looking at each other; the Gneral is bent way over;
Shot of Rob smirking then he bows his head;
Voice over the prayer circle is Neleh: Heavenly father, we're so grateful for each other and the bonds we have together; All - Amen
Jeff P - will they be a happy family yada yada
General sharpening a machete;
Zoe splitting a coconut in two;
Rob- "Tell the truth for once will ya?"
Zoe and Kathy sitting beside each other, Zoe looking very seriously uncomfortable; Kathy is just looking at her- like go ahead tell the truth
Kathy in the water "Zoe is lying to me, they're all lying to me"
Rob with shifty eyes;
Sean and John both with mouths open saying something that doesn't look too pleasant; Sean is looking away then turns toward John; John has his hand raised, lowers it as Sean turns to him, then he puts it toward Sean, kind of a fist with the thumb pointing up; John steps toward Sean;
Rob in a confessional saying "Nobody in this game know's who's telling the truth"
John walking away looking back, says "Don't lie to my face" then walks away;
Rob hands on hips standing by Sean in the same pose, "Now it's awwwnnn, man!" Looks to be the same scene as John and Sean above. LOL this definitely tells me that the Robfather watched BB2!!! He really is trying the Will Kirby strategy!!! That "It's awwwnnn!" totally convinced me!

Impressions this week: Wheww....I never thought I would like Rob at all after all the crap, but I like the in your face kind of confrontation.

I found it interesting that the Rotu 4 are all sitting next to each other in the prayer circle but the old Moo and the new moo are alternated; don't know what that means if anything. I still didn't find any clues to tell me who to vote for tomorrow. I think I am going to go with Kathy just because John shook Rob and Sean's hands and he said earlier (and I think I believe him) that once he shook that was it. I don't think he is the most honest guy- it's not in the bank like with Tom or Frank, but I think John really means it when he shakes hands. I am booting Kathy unspoiled unless something else comes up.

Zoe is not a good liar, but she may really just not like confrontation. Or she is waiting for her old alliance to come back, who knows? Until we see her give at least one confessional, how can we know?? She looks to be closer to the General than John and from the preview, it doesn't seem that she will try to realign with Kathy, so I am betting she just stays where she is, at least for now. I still haven't gotten a good handle on this lady. I would love to see Zoe hook up with V, but both of them are so UTR I can't tell if they have ever even spoken to each other. I really really want to know what V is doing with all her time when she isn't with Rob and Sean. Is she a loner or is she bonded with one of the Rotu women? Have to wait and see.....

Urgrace

Monday, April 08, 2002 - 10:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Didn't Zoe tell John that he had her support on the vote for Gabe, but as far as I could tell she didn't actually make an alliance with him. That's probably why when Rob asked her, she said they were friends but not in an alliance. Maybe she really isn't in an alliance with him. Every time I see Zoe with someone it is usually Robert. They became close early in the game. The Zoe, Robert, Tammy group seems much more allianced and just let John lead them on the Gabe vote. Why not! It takes the pressure and spotlight off them, and rids them of the player who didn't want to play.

It looks like John is playing with fire and is going to soon get burned. However, Kathy is not welcomed with open arms from anybody, so her number is up unless she wins immunity!

Thank you Aware! I wish everybody was doing their superspoiler threads. It gives insight into the characters that sometimes we miss just watching. You are doing a terrific job.

Lancecrossfire

Monday, April 08, 2002 - 11:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Great job aware. I can't tell if Zoe is lying and hates being asked such a question, or if she hates being asked such a question, and by her definition isn't in an alliance. (she may define one as a situation where you've sat down and made agreements, etc--she may not have done that yet)

From the way they made it look, Rob definitely crossed a line with her by bringing it up.

Awareinva

Monday, April 08, 2002 - 01:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
All we saw her say was in response to John saying he wanted them (Rotu four) to be final four and hoped they had her support... she said "Of course you do" a couple times. We never heard her say they were an alliance, just that John had her support in bringing her to the final four. Well, I guess anyone would agree to that... especially if you had your own strong two person alliance within that four. I am really getting a Lex UberGut feeling that the two are the General and Zoe. But she never said they had an alliance that we heard. Man I would love to see her be plotting.... especially if she is plotting with Vee. I don't know why. I just really like the two of them.

and don't hate me but I am beginning to hope Rob stays a while.... not that I like what he says or him as a person, but man, is he making this game a lot more fun than the last two episodes!

Car54

Monday, April 08, 2002 - 01:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Zoe is one of the secret two, but can't tell who she is with yet. Somehow I think she is playing her cards very close to her chest. I bet several people THINK she is on their team.

I have been wondering-she seemed very reluctant to cast her vote for Gabe, and with the really dirty look she gave Jeff when N,P,& K got twisted, whether she would side with them when they return. That would make them a majority...against S/V/R and J/R/T.

I am thinking with this "true lies" thing going on we are going to finally hear something from Zoe this week.

I don't really want Rob to go either Aware, he is very entertaining.

Awareinva

Monday, April 08, 2002 - 01:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow, Car... it just all clicked into place when I read your thoughts! I have it now LOL!--- Zoe was/is firmly allied with Pappy and Neleh. She will stick with John et al this week in order to boot Kathy, who will either come crawling back to John or try and ally with Rob. Zoe will see that she needs to boot Kathy to keep John or Rob from Pagonging their way to final four.

This will set up a 3-3-3 split when Zoe bounces over to her true alliance next week.

Z/P/N vs. R/V/S vs. J/T/General

We have never had this kind of situation before and it is mind-bogling with the kind of convolutions it raises!

Boy I wish I could actually make this happen.... it would be incredible. (But sadly, I have not had huge success predicting outcomes post merge and so this will probably not be the case at all; sigh... the way my luck's been going Zoe will probably end up a boring flunky for John. :( )

Car54

Monday, April 08, 2002 - 02:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I definitely think Zoe could switch, but 3/3/3 with Rob and John still in the game could be very dangerous. They next need to go after Vee, who will have her faith in common with P & N. That would give you 5, then you could boot John, and then Rob, Tammy....it all falls into place.

But you are right, they probably won't figure it out.

The other thing that could be cool is if the women figure out they are in a majority. That has never happened before at this stage.

Awareinva

Monday, April 08, 2002 - 03:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The women and Pappy... now that would be cool too! But that would mean that Kathy isn't out this week! OMG, I need to rethink my whole unspoiled vote....I only have an hour and a half!!!

Running off to ponder a while more....

Gina8642

Monday, April 08, 2002 - 04:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank you Awareinva,

That is a great synopsis.

Reading this I think there is definately an alliance in the Old Rotu that MB/CBS just hasn't decided to show us yet. They clearly showed the J/T/R/Z one, just so they could show it crumble.

Now, of course, the question is - what is that hidden alliance, and how do the old Moo fit into shennanigans from here on out?

My instinct says there will be Pagonging, but MB/CBS will try to make it look "un-Pangongish" for lack of a better word.

I hope I'm wrong.....

Moondance

Monday, April 08, 2002 - 05:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Aware... GREAT summary! Thanks so much for doing this:)

Seamonkey

Monday, April 08, 2002 - 05:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Aware.. you are the superspoiler of all superspoilers!!

Awareinva

Tuesday, April 16, 2002 - 05:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry I haven't posted my superspoiler for last week yet. Tax time, coordinating about three events for 100+ Girl Scouts, and dealing with employee turnover has left me swamped. :(

Scampering (well more like crawling since VA is experiencing near 90 degree weather and I refuse to turn on the AC in April!) off to watch and make notes. Hopefully I'll be back to post in a bit.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, April 16, 2002 - 06:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Aware.. don't those Girl Scouts have a "Tax Preparation " merit badge???

LOL

Your analysis will be great, whenever it appears.

Awareinva

Tuesday, April 16, 2002 - 07:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow, what an episode!- that took longer than I thought....my children were Survivor orphans tonight. LOL

Episode 7
Recap Jeff P says last week John made an alliance with the four original Rotu and took control of the tribe. Shots of John at the waterfall, Zoe laughing at him;

Jeff P continues: Rob and Sean were left out of the alliance, decided to make a pitch and join John's alliance, cut a deal in case of the merge, they agree to vote Maraamu out first Nowhere in this recap is V mentioned- she must really be solidly in the Rotu5 alliance!

Day 19
Zoe, General and John on the raft, John is talking about pigs, Zoe in black sport bra, long olive pants, buff as headband, braid, necklaces, tying her shoes, listening to John, smiling; Vee comes up and kisses John; voice over Rob- Vee is so fake to me; shot of Vee and Zoe talking; Rob continues- everybody is so fake, drives me crazy, maybe that's their game, everybody's going to be happy; shot of Zoe in black bra, shorts, braiding Tammy's hair; as Rob talks about going around the roadblock- shot of Vee, Tammy, Zoe and John at the food prep table.

Tree mail- Tammy says someone has to go, five minutes; Zoe is second to shake Rob's hand when he goes; Tammy did a lot of directing Rob in his packing- no one else is heard;

Meeting with Kathy and Rob-

K-Zoe and I were like the moms cleaning up
r- Oh really, you and Zoe pretty close? (real surprised)
K- oh yeah, we were the moms cleaning the place up
R- unreal, the lies going on, you and Zoe?
K- big nod
R- funny, I've been friendly with Zoe; she told me she was voting you off. I asked John who's next, he said Kathy.
K- You tell me Zoe's going to vote me off, Zoe and I bonded, you think that's not a shock to my system?

Day 20- Merge
Zoe and John first out to meet the raft; Zoe in baseball hat, shot of Kathy looking at the water, Zoe next to her not speaking while pulling in the raft; Zoe and Kathy wringing out the blanket; K- how you doing Zo? Z- Doing better now that you guys are here. You need to twist your end. K- I'll hang it (blanket) up on the tree.

Kathy voiceover- shot of Zoe eating fruit- I was aloof and quiet, hanging on the outer rim.

Looking at the flag- Zoe says it's got all our initials. gives a big cheer when Rob says the name, standing between Rob and Pappy. Tammy and Zoe put up the new flag. Zoe and General breaking up shellfish, Voiceover General- after we got the raft in, everybody was back to being busy little beavers.

Vee, Rob, Sean and John formed the prayer circle we saw. we didn't see the one from the previews Coming from the waterfall- John, Zoe (carrying water jug), Kathy, Neleh, Pappy, General, Rob last in line. Kathy- same confessional thru the whole show- apparently some alliance formed, but in my heart I can't believe that this Rotu tribe wants to vote me off.

Kathy tells Pappy that she thinks she is next, Pappy and Neleh are targets too, that there are powerful people on the beach, they need to find out what is going on, not just sit and wait to get voted off; Pappy says Kathy must have been told by Rob she was next, he told her he would listen and find out something and then tell her, he didn't want her going off and getting confrontational; Shot of Rob, Kathy, Neleh, Pappy, John, Vee, Tammy eating as Kathy talks about honesty and integrity;

Evening shots- Neleh rubbing someone's naked back- full head of dark hair, nape of neck length, must be Tammy (only a slight hint of breasts, but Tammy's not that well endowed); Vee cornrowing Tammys hair, Zoe and John lying side by side his head on her shoulder; Tammy confessional- I may have to tell a white lie, will do what it takes to win this game, hope the others still like me, but I am out to win, etc. etc. All sleeping on the raft. How comfy must that be??? Must be some bad sand fleas and this is the only escape.

Day 21
Kathy and Zoe going to get water, Rob comes up the hill

R- Can we sit and talk
Z- frowns then, sure
R- Want to talk about some things; he sits to one side of the path, Z and K sit on a log on the other side; Who are you guys voting for?
z- none of your business who I'm voting for
R- I find you amazing Zoe
Z- excuse me?
R- I find you amazing
Z- well, thank you hilarious- she thinks he means it at first!!!LOL
R- I trust you and everybody is lying, left and right
K- You know, its more about tribal loyalty, there's (this little ghost??? that's what it sounded like- don't have a clue)of virtue
R- You're right, but that wasn't the way it was supposed to be, Zoe. I mean, I thought we had an agreement, Zoe. You and I and John, Tammy, Sean ,Vee and Rob
Z- An agreement about....?
R- We didn't have an agreement about taking everybody from this side up? You don't remember anything about that?
Z- No I don't
R- See this is unbelievable! Kathy wasn't your first choice as soon as she got here? (to Kathy) And they promised if we got rid of Gabe we'd stay together
Z- How do you ever get that?
R- (mimics) How do I ever get that?
K- Wait a minute so when...(Rob interrupts)
R- Unbelievable, tell the truth for once will ya? I'm telling everybody tonight Zoe. The other day, didn't you say you were voting for Kathy, yes or no?
THREE SECOND PAUSE I timed it-- that's a long pause in a conversation!!!
Z- No, I didn't (sour look)
R- (mimics) No, no you didn't... you paused and you lied! (to Kathy) I can't say I didn't see it coming, there was like a certain degree of truth that I felt and it completely got shattered.
Kathy gets up and goes down the hill.
R- Where you going? You leaving Kathy?
K- Yeah, I get a story from you and a story from from Zoe, people are lying through their teeth. I haven't lied once, man; I don't know what this stupid game is about, but I'm outta here.
Z- (to Rob) You can believe what you want to believe ok....
R0- I don't like to be lied to again and again. It irritates me.
Kathy- at waterfall: Zoe's lying to me, they're all lying to me and I'm being played as a pawn

Immunity Challenge
Lined up: Zoe, Pappy, Neleh, Kathy, Tammy, General, Rob, Vee, John, Sean
Zoe and Sean do a little dance on the platforms, Zoe tells John nice recovery, whoo baby and blows him a kiss when he almost loses it. Zoe gives Kathy a BIG hug and pats her back as she hugs Rob after winning immunity
Kathy, Zoe and John are walking last coming back to camp.

After the Sean, Rob and John arguement about the agreement being broken, Rob confronts the General, Zoe clasps Kathy's shoulder as she watches and listens, then walks off; Sean shares about it being hurtful for John to treat him this way; cut to shot of Neleh, Zoe, Kathy and the General watching the drama; Neleh says playfully oh what outfit should I wear tonight to tribal council? Zoe walks off, Kathy gives her a smile, the General hugs Kathy and kisses the top of her head

Tribal council
Jeff asks Zoe how she feels about Sean feeling like an outsider. Zoe says its not necessarily the case, everybody has their own feelings on how strongly they feel in our family/ our tribe. I feel sorry for him feeling that way. I don't see it but that's the way he feels.

The General talks about his word being his bond, all he's got at his age, he's not a youngster, he won't compromise his principles

John says if you bond with me, that's great. If you bond then decide to adjust the agreement without telling me, that's the same as lying

When Rob says there are people sitting here now saying they haven't lied and they have, the camera shows John, Zoe and Tammy.

When Zoe's vote is read, she shakes her head, lips tight, mad look. Kathy is looking at her, same kind of look on her face, then she turns away.

Next week on survivor
Kathy confronts Zoe about her lying ways
zoe- There was never any intention of voting you off...
Kathy- Zoe just lied to me point blank.

The survivors reach new heights- kite flying

Neleh gets upset with the actions of some of her tribemates.
Neleh to Pappy- I've been nothing but honest to everybody and followed my heart.
Neleh- There's gotta be some changes here.
Shot of Pappy

Wheww... this was a long episode. Almost too tired for impressions. I am sort of regreting my vote for Kathy off unspoiled though. I think the editing was skewed on some of the confessionals we saw. I think she was really in doubt of her place then by the end started rethinking. Not sure, just a GUT feeling. I also thought the confrontation between John, Rob and Sean was more John and Rob, but on a rewatch, Sean and John were really into it. Feeling like Sean is really going to be the target this week unless he wins Immunity. Very tired though and may have different thoughts tomorrow.

Squaredsc

Tuesday, April 16, 2002 - 07:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
great job aware, you are the best like seamonkey said. glad you has a little more to work with last week. has she had a confessional yet?? if so i don't remember, if not is she the only one who hasn't? could be significant.