Spoiler thread 4/25
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Tksoard | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 06:14 pm     The only things I did right was vote Kathy On and Tammy IC, and the Biggy was changing my team from Robert, Zoe and Vee to Neleh, Pappy and Vee. I lost 45 pts. but that's better than having them on and voted off, I think. Does anyone know how many pts. you lose for a team member voted off? P.S. I knew I should have listened to Fruitbat!! Sorry, I'll go with you next week!! |
Dipo | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 06:18 pm     Mick -- thank you so much, I was reading until 5:15 when I had to leave work and now back on. I was so confused that I changed my vote five times today, and then went and changed to Robert being booted at the last minute. I did at least get Tammy with Immunity. I never really got that Zoe was so disliked even tho I read tons of stuff from people who said she was. Guess I should pay better attention to Acme, I didn't see the part that said they would be wrong. Guess I need to read better, like the people on amazing race needed to. |
Moondance | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 06:20 pm     Good job Llkool! Mick you rock! |
Seamonkey | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 06:23 pm     Bat must be hanging from the rafter and grinning |
Car54 | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 06:26 pm     Final 2- Kathy/Sean. Sean takes all. Thats all I can see. F4 probably N/P/K/V...Kathy wins the fallen comrades, picks Sean to go up against instead of Neleh. |
Knightpatti | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 06:29 pm     I had voted for Tammy off and then changed it to Robert based on ACME. I am so glad that ACME was wrong. It just did not seem right that they had the answer every week. Wow! It still surprised that Zoe is gone. I think these people are voting on who does not lie. Robert said I never lied to you. Zoe on the other hand was caught in lies. They must have all agreed against her and I do not think she saw it coming. |
Gina8642 | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 06:35 pm     All my votes were wrong. But I'm thrilled it was Zoe to go!!!! This was the very first time MB/CBS gave us any hints at her motivation/strategy. Wonder if she is upset that she didn't get more exposure? |
Knightpatti | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 06:41 pm     Well,I still do not like Tammy either. She does not know how to smile or have a good time. At least she has Robert still. Everyone has a pair now except Kathy |
Gina8642 | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 06:43 pm     BTW When I was a kid we often used stilts in gym class. It really isn't very hard, with a little practice. Especially with the relatively low stilts the Survivors were using. I noticed right off the bat that the only person using the right technique was Tammy. The way she put her arms in front and kept the stilts in close to her underarm. That's the way to do it, and you can stay up forever. We used to walk around on them for an entire gym class without falling off (30-40 minutes). And I was one of the uncoordinated kids. Everyone could do it. Just a little practice. I was suprised that no one but Tammy caught on to the right way to do it. I don't think a beach is really the best footing for practice however. |
Fruitbat | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 07:24 pm     Yes Seamonkey, I just peeled myself off the rafters! I even voted Robert to stay and Tammy IC! I am so happy to be right AND have my least favorite player gone. |
Dipo | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 07:25 pm     Anybody out there who has seen the show -- how did they make the teams for the rc? |
Car54 | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 07:30 pm     Tammy/Vee, Sean/Paschel, Kathy/Robert, Neleh/Zoe Jeff paired them up at the beginning They had a net with a bunch of submerged coconuts..they had to retrieve the coconuts, bring them onto a spot on the beach, crack the nuts, fill a clear tube...first team to fill wins. |
Car54 | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 07:39 pm     I loved how happy Jeff was at the end of Tribal Council. His little speech about never counting yourself out was so sweet. The producers must have loved it that they were able to end the predictable patterns with this show. I was just amazed...I can't remember ever watching where the episode I expected to see was so totally different from the one that happened. I am so impressed that after 4 seasons they can still maintain this level of entertainment. |
Fruitbat | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 07:42 pm     Dipo, it was a random drawing they did off camera. Absolutey Car. They did a fabulous job anticipating and manipulating challenges and twists to produce a different show. Bravo. |
Niceguy | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 07:48 pm     Its too early to say if Tammy can run a string of IC's but who knows at this point. Sean on a horse on a mountain is still cracking me up. On a less than niceguy note I will miss the butt shots of Zoe. BABY GOT BACK! |
Dipo | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 08:31 pm     OMG this is just the best episode ever. I was laughing so hard at Sean, it makes laugh to think about how funny he was on the horses. What a kick!!!!!! |
Awareinva | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 08:52 pm     well, wow.... what can you say? And I was thinking that the whole acme thing was a setup this week- that they would be wrong. But I caved since they had such a good track record. I have to say even if I hadn't caved and gone with Robert , I would have voted Tammy (made perfect sense that he or Tammy were the ones to go). Zoe must just be really boring! LOL I kept thinking that surely there would be more to come from her since her story line was never started. Basically Rob and Tammy had to give us the Zoe story...she was just too reserved and must not have talked at all- not at TC, not in interviews... Mark B. must just have picked her for the way she would interact with others. I thought she was really close with Pappy and Neleh-- BUT I think Tammy turned the tide when she went to Pappy and Neleh. I bet she told them about Zoe trying to now lie and say she wasn't in the alliance. Pappy can tolerate a lot, but apparently lying is the one unforgivable sin.... look at him and Sean. Once he saw Sean might be a lot of things, but not a liar, Pappy was ok with him. Thinking about a comment Car made way back - PappyKim!! This guy is turning into MamaKim for sure... he is deciding who continues based on his opinion of how the game should be played. Now usually Mark B. shows us the people who can't do their own jobs... the hunter who can't shoot, the goat herder who can't herd goats, the canoeist who can't paddle, the cook who can't cook, etc. etc. Is Papppy being set up as the Judge who misjudges??? Hmmmmm... have to ponder that one. Need to regroup, but now it seems that K/N/P/S/V make final 5- the honest alliance! |
Crazydog | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 09:08 pm     I won't miss Zoe. She was practically nonexistent until two episodes ago when she lied to Rob. What little we did see of her I didn't care for. She has got to rank up there along with Nick Brown, Amber and (sorry) Ethan and is perhaps even the MOST BORING SURVIVOR EVER. Very much a follower and as soon as John disappeared she stood zero chance of blending in with the rest since she had absolutely no identity of her own. I hope Tammy goes next week. She deserves it. |
Mygetaway | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 09:09 pm     Ok... CSI is on, so I haven't read any of the posts yet. All I can say is.. I'm so glad I didn't spoil the whole show. I did see Acme's picks, but that's as far as I went. Watching Pappy and Sean roll around the beach was a sight I'll never forget..{LOL} They were so cute. I had a feeling Tammy was going to win IM again, and even posted it with my vote for Sean. (whoops) Anyway.. that was a great show tonight. I'll be back to READ and post more after CSI. Sorry if I repeated anyones comments! |
Kaili | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 10:54 pm     There was so much talk about Pappy being racist for not wanting to align with Sean last week (I forgot what thread it was on but this seems like a good place to say this anyway)- did anyone notice Tammy and Robert trying to convince Pappy and Neleh by saying "do you really want it to be Sean and Vee in the end" or something to that extent. Now could this be racist, or could this just be a Rotu/Marammu thing? |
Moondance | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 11:00 pm     Not racist... just a Rotu thing |
Seamonkey | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 11:18 pm     I don't think it was racist.. I've already said that about Pappy and I say it about Tammy and Robert (and Tammy and Robert are at the bottom of my list about now). And I don't think Sean was a baby for getting emotional and crying.. same with Pappy.. same with John. I'm very interested that suddenly Sean swims.. Tammy is bitter and not even gone yet.. and Robert was being a jerk too tonight. Funny how NO ONE owns up to having had an alliance with John!!!! |
Whoami | Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 11:52 pm     Robert and Tammy are at the bottom of my list now. They were very sore losers. Talk about pouting like children cause things weren't going their way! When Tammy was being snippy about "THOSE five are real happy today." I was thinking, have you already forgotten how cocky you were when you thought YOU were in control? Geeze honey, if you can't take it, don't dish it! |
Car54 | Friday, April 26, 2002 - 03:10 am     Aware, I can totally understand how you felt with this show. When the Survivors are announced, we get pictures, and bios, but I never feel like I can get a sense of them until I hear them speak and interact with the tribe. How Zoe has been depicted is a historic example of MB editing and manipulation. There is a darn good reason she was depicted as "silent Zoe"- almost no confessionals, never showing her votes and speaking (to us). All along, she had a certain "look"- kind of chunky, muscular, modest... hair bound up in her buff. We heard from Robert- "Zoe is solid"', Rob compares her to a man... Then TONIGHT, ZOE SPEAKS! and we find out she is a pretty hard, cold cookie....with holding from her original alliance (hope they play a vidclip of her agreeing to join John on the Early show for her), I could not believe how cold and confrontational she was with Tammy and Robert. She even LOOKED different tonight- tan, lean, with her hair down... very powerful. It is very telling that after 3 days alone on the jury and a total of 2 weeks with the entire booted group, John called her an "enigma". John is probably very polite. What a setup... I am still reeling from an 8 episode re-direct... and someone's character is revealed to be the opposite in their final episode! |
Squaredsc | Friday, April 26, 2002 - 06:13 am     wow, it was a great show, wish my computer was working at home so i could add to the spoiling, but the techie is coming to fix it on monday....anyhoo, zoe really looked like the warrior princess lastnite. and she really acted like a b*tch towards tammy, and im surprised tammy didn't go for her throat, but as strong as zoe is she would have slammed her into the sand. but i was really shocked at the things she said to tammy, well maybe not what she said but how she said it...... loved to see sean swimming his heart out....maybe his previous water mishaps were strategic?? ms. bat i have to bow down to your infinate wisdome, you called it correctly, you are still the teacher and we are you humble students.... can't wait for zoe's early show post, hopefully she doesn't clam up like these past few weeks.  |
Misslibra | Friday, April 26, 2002 - 06:38 am     I'm disliking Sean less and less. Seeing him and Pascal together I got to see another side of him that was very becoming to him. The scene between those two brought tears to my eyes. Tammy and Robert was upset that they got beat at their own game and loss John. If I were them I would of been upset to. But Robert's pouting and him saying he was going to destroy the fire pit when he gets voted off because he builded it just showed his vindictive side. Tammy I can't criticize her for the way she is playing the game. She's trying hard to stay in the game. At least I see some fire in her eyes as far as trying to survive, but Robert last night look like a pouting baby. She came out fighting and won the IM, have to give her credit. I'm glad Pascal wasn't buying Robert and Tammy's story about no alliance. And Zoe I never liked her from the start, there was just that something about her I didn't like, couldn't quite put my finger on it. I was surprise to see her get voted off this round. After all the pouting Robert did I thought for sure he had sealed his fate last night. And I have to agree with Moon about it being a tribal thing and not a prejudice thing when you hear Tammy or Pascal refering to Vee and Sean. You have to remember they were in different tribes, even though the voting isn't falling along tribal lines. |
Moondance | Friday, April 26, 2002 - 08:35 am     I agree with everything in your post MsL... get out of my head! |
Fruitbat | Friday, April 26, 2002 - 09:00 am     >>>>And Zoe I never liked her from the start, there was just that something about her I didn't like, couldn't quite put my finger on it.<<<< Funny. Those are the very same words I have used several times. Read the interview thread we are not alone. Sean was precious tonight. Pappy too. The entire RC was hysterical and moving. Sean and the horse had to be the best comedy on a reality show to date. Pappy tackling Sean on the beach after their win ran a close second. I am thrilled the underdogs now have the power, I like them all. It will be interesting to see which one of their own goes first. Will old team lines surface or did Sean and Pappy bond so strongly that this will prevail? I see Sean, Pappy, Neleh at the end as of now. This is a great season! I loved it tonight. |
Fanny | Friday, April 26, 2002 - 09:53 am     It was a great episode! Early on I really couldn't stand Sean but recently and especially after last night he's growing on me by leaps and bounds. It was interesting watching Sean and Pappy bond like they did, and so sweet of them to be squirreling away their feast to take back to the tribe. I'm liking P&N stepping up and pretty much taking charge instead of hanging back like puppy dogs as they have until recently. It's been a great strategy for them. They're probably smart enough to have engineered it. While Pappy & Sean were rolling around the beach after winning the RC, all I could think of was the movie From Here to Eternity. But in a nice way, of course. Tammy, Zoe and Robert came off looking like a**holes, all three of 'em. Kathy got no individual airtime whatsoever. It was a good time for her to keep quiet. Hope she keeps it up. |
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