Thoughts on the Finale & Reunion Show
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Webkitty | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 11:13 am     Yes, that is what I am saying. I think she was low key on the island, and they didn't have much on her, they didn't think she would last. So when Kathy fell off and Vee made the deal w/Neleh, all of the sudden........I bet Jeff was going DOH!!!!! Alright, a dead horse, I'll shut up now  |
Seamonkey | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 11:28 am     FB, yes that is also my thought.. winging indeed. |
Seamonkey | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 02:18 pm     Not my thoughts, but interesting article about the after party at http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,238462-1-7~3~0~,00.html Mix of old and new survivors, TAR people.. Tammy feeling up John? |
Squaredsc | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 04:29 pm     yuhuru, great post, and you can speak for me anytime. no survivor is not about race. but unfortunately when one african-american wins something or is great at a particular sport, they seem to have to carry the whole race with them. for example tiger woods. and vee is right in what she said about how proud african-americans were of her(even though the game had nothing to do with race), and i have gone to some african-american discussion sites and they are saying how great it is that an african-american has won. another example is of this years oscars, its sort of about breaking down some of the doors that have been closed to us. hope i am explaining this right. anyhoo, great series and can't wait for S5. |
Seamonkey | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 04:33 pm     Well Squared.. you just have to wait Hard as that may be.. but we have Mole and Big Brother coming first anyway. |
Gina8642 | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 05:04 pm     Yuhuru Great post!! I especially agree with two areas you wrote about: 1. Often non-african americans seem to want AA to pretend they aren't black, or stop mentioning race all the time. I saw this again, and again on the boards. I've seen it again, and again in my real life. I've always figured that because I'm not black, how should I know how it feels, how should I know how often it comes to mind? Because I'm not, I'm not going to judge someone who is, because he mentions it. 2. Vee's Christianity. Yuhuru stated it better than I can. It has been very easy to poke fun at Vee's christianity on these boards and various articles written about the show. I have to admit, I've laughed at quite a few. But Vee wasn't saying that God/Jesus picked her to win, cause He liked her the best. She was saying Christianity gives her the strength to be who she is and by being that person, she won. She finds strenth in Jesus - that's great. I'm not a very religious person, but I really respect it in others. I thought Neleh, Sean, and Vee represented a very positive side of christianity. It is also funny how people are picking on Vee about her philosiphy on asking for forgiveness later for her lies in the game. Is lying in the game of Survivor even a sin??? I don't think so. It is a game, that's all. Anyway, Yuhuru said it much better than me. But I thought these two points had a great deal of resonance with me. |
Squaredsc | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 05:13 pm     yeah sea, and this will be my first time watching the mole, just cause you guys like it im going to try it. hope i like it.  |
Squaredsc | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 05:15 pm     also, good post gina. |
Yuhuru | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 05:32 pm     Tell me more about this Mole. When,where, how? Funny thing. I had taped the Early Show Monday on an old tape. It was an old tape of Big Brother, the one when Nicole took her hand off the key. It was HI-larious. She was pissed. Boy that show was good! |
Weinermr | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 05:37 pm     Yep. Kathy checking her blouse and falling reminded me of Nicole taking her hand off the key. Similar incidents. |
Seamonkey | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 05:47 pm     Except that with Nicole, Will actually was pulling the cover off of her. But yeah.. |
Grooch | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 05:49 pm     Shhh.... Fruitbat is the mole. |
Soeur | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 05:50 pm     It looked to me as though Neleh pointed out the potential nipple exposure in order to distract Kathy. She really didn't even seem remorseful afterwards. Am I wrong? |
Soeur | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 05:52 pm     Will probably grabbed the blanket on purpose. Did we reach a consensus about that? |
Yuhuru | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 05:53 pm     She said she didn't distract her intentionally, but I dunno.... |
Hippyt | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 06:35 pm     Neleh said she didn't do it purpose,which I don't know if I believe or not. But,I do think Kathy would have fallen first anyway. She wasn't concentrating,taking off her hat,playing with her hair. She did herself in,IMHO. Vee and Neleh were standing still,concentrating,Kathy was wiggling all around. |
Grooch | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 06:41 pm     Hippyt, I agree with you. When I saw them all start, from the looks on their faces and how comfortable they looked, I was convinced that Neleh was going to win it. Maybe that's why Vee may a deal so quickly. She knew she wouldn't be able to last much longer. |
Seamonkey | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 06:47 pm     True.. both Kathy and Vee seemed in more awkward positions. |
Fruitbat | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 06:55 pm     All has been said. Good post Yuhuru. Many good posts here. It happens with all minorities. Danny and Oswald were congratulated for representing the gay community with such grace. And I also agree that Vee's faith gave her the power of positive thought which created her drive and ultimate success. The posted notes on her computer told that story. All in all a good show. Flawed but satisfying. Onward to the Mole! |
Seamonkey | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 07:23 pm     Yeah.. it surprised the hell out of Danny and Oswald when they heard that |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 06:53 am     Yes, Danny and Oswald were unwitting representitives. I don't think it came as a surprize though. Kathy made it clear that she would not have lasted much longer on the post and I do believe Neleh was sincere. Kathy did too. |
Squaredsc | Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 09:32 am     yuhuru check out the mole discussion topic from the main page. i had to go there also to see what the show was about. |
Yuhuru | Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 10:55 am     Thanks Square |
Grooch | Friday, May 24, 2002 - 10:49 am     I have a question. When they showed the Survivors preparing for the fallen comrades challenge, they showed Vee studying her notes. I just read her final chat and she said her luxery item was a book of poetry that she wrote. If that is true, where did she get the pen & paper to make notes with? I can assume she wrote notes in her peotry book, but would there have been enough room? Also, in the chat she said she got to keep her booklet for the challenge as a souveniour. Does that mean they are already given a book with the answers in it to study? I never suspected that. This is from the chat: Phillipians4_13: Vee, were you able to keep any souvenirs from your time in the Marquesas islands? Vecepia Towery: Absolutely! One of the key, one of the most important ones, was the little booklet about the retention questions for the immunity challenge. Hunter_Is_Sexy: What was your luxury item? Vecepia Towery: A book of poetry that I wrote myself. |
Seamonkey | Friday, May 24, 2002 - 11:08 am     Grooch.. I'm thinking it might have been the books they used to write their answers in?? They had pretty neat covers and at the time I thought that they'd want to keep those. I would definitely want to keep one of those. But.. she could be talking about something else too. |
Gina8642 | Friday, May 24, 2002 - 02:13 pm     Or she could mean the clue. I seem to remember the clue they received in the tree mail for this IC was a booklet. |
Grooch | Friday, May 24, 2002 - 02:16 pm     But then where did she get a pen from to take notes? Maybe they showed her reading her poetry but led us to believe she had taken notes? |
Gina8642 | Friday, May 24, 2002 - 02:32 pm     Remeber that Gabe had a pen and paper as well. And that was before he met Vee. (Remember is poem for Pascal?) CBS does not reveal all..... |
Grooch | Friday, May 24, 2002 - 04:15 pm     I didn't remember that he did, but that is right. How weird. |
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