Are they dumb, or what???
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Are they dumb, or what???
Nessietessie | Friday, March 01, 2002 - 10:04 am     In my humble opinion, it appears on the M tribe, the intelligent ones are Sean and Vicepia. The others voted against Peter, Sean and Vicepia voted against Sarah. Even though, Peter appeared to be, according to Rob, "a fruit loop", he did start the fire, and he is strong to help win challenges. If you don't like a person, boot him off after the merge, when it is "everyone out for themself." Sean and Vicepia showed intelligence by voting against Sarah, because she did not seem to do anything except parade around half naked to try to get the men on her side. She does have a nice body, but obviously has had breast implants, but that, " a survivor does not make." |
Grooch | Friday, March 01, 2002 - 10:08 am     I agree that Sarah is a better choice, but a few of the girls said they were going to vote differently until he started doing some strange things that day. He might have weirded them out to much. At first he seemed normal, but then he did seem weirder and weirder. Peter said that he never felt comfortable on the Island. Sometimes people just make your skin crawl for no reason at all. And that's why they probably got rid of him. |
Trinity | Friday, March 01, 2002 - 10:32 am     In that case though they were silly. I agree that Sean and Vicepia were the only ones thinking with their heads. Someone should tell Sarah that this isn't Temptaion Island. |
Hippyt | Friday, March 01, 2002 - 10:43 am     I agree,wasn't the smartest thing. I think Peter was just too goofy and creepy,with that S**t-eating grin to keep around. I wonder if Sean and Vecepia talked about it before the vote,they should have tried to sway a couple of other people towards lazy Sarah.Either way,I feel Sarah's days are very numbered,unless she gets to work. |
Demented_Freak | Friday, March 01, 2002 - 10:58 am     they could easily have asked Peter to vote Sarah too, & then they would have only needed one more..maybe trica. But hindsight is 20/20, but I do think it was dumb to vote off a strong male so early. |
Crazydog | Friday, March 01, 2002 - 11:02 am     Have to disagree with you all. Re Sarah v. Peter I think the right choice was made. The beef with Sarah is that she is a little lazy. If she feels that will get her voted off, I'm sure she will step it up and contribute some more. With this year's tribes being completely self-sufficient, there is much more of a need to participate than in past versions, and there are plenty of low-energy tasks that can be done with minimal effort (like gathering fruit). Being lazy is something that can be changed if needed. Now if they don't like her personality that's another thing. The beef with Peter was that he was weird and creepy. The others just simply didn't like him. And it's very difficult to change an entire personality and stop yourself from doing those crazy grins. And just because he is a man doesn't necessarily mean he is strong.... case in point Brandon and Mitchell. He certainly didn't look like he was that fit. I think they made the right choice because it is much easier to get rid of someone you don't like at the very beginning, when alliances are not as hardened. Had he lasted another round, he could have locked himself into an alliance with Patricia and someone else and been untouchable. Just like Richard Hatch. I still remember this fat shirtless slob sitting in a tree complaining about "the process" and wanting so badly for him to go. The others seemed annoyed by him but voted off the weak older woman. Then he formed and alliance and they were stuck with him until the very end. Either Patricia or Sarah is going next. If Patricia is smart she will try to find out who voted for Sarah and align with them. I could very well see Sarah and Rob aligning with Hunter, who will drag along lovestruck Gina. So Hunter will be the swing vote for this tribe. But it seems Patricia runs into problems next week. Seems she tries to take charge and it backfires, probably because everyone sees through it. |
Squaredsc | Friday, March 01, 2002 - 11:02 am     my sentiments exactly. it wasn't very smart to vote someone who is strong physically over someone who just parades around. hopefully they will wise up or they when the merge happens they will get pagoned(sp). |
Whoami | Friday, March 01, 2002 - 02:57 pm     OK, I missed something. A few people have said Patricia tried to take charge, and it backfires. What previews are you seeing this on? I thought it was Kathy (on the other tribe) who tried to take charge, and everyone was griping about it. |
Moondance | Friday, March 01, 2002 - 03:06 pm     Whoami, it was in the preview for next week |
Moondance | Friday, March 01, 2002 - 03:10 pm     This is the text from it Rob and Sarah grow closer, and their tribe mates are beginning to feel the heat A tribe member brings home a feast, but gets a surprising reception from her teammates A newly-energized "Momma" begins to take charge, but finds dissension in her ranks ************ They showed Patricia bossing people around with Sean complaining about her and Gina giving her looks. |
Pamy | Friday, March 01, 2002 - 10:11 pm     Ahhhh, so Rob and Sarah must be the ones that use the condoms, as MB has hinted! Moon, do you think the previews are misleading? I was going to vote off Patricia but she may be too obvious, any thoughts???
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Catfat | Saturday, March 02, 2002 - 09:59 am     Perhaps they were right in voting off Peter, even though he was strong physically. When someone creeps you out, even though you can't exactly put your finger on why, your instincts are usually correct. It is best to put distance between you and the weirdo. Run fast, run far. I think Sarah should be the next to go because she is blatantly using her souped-up body to get the men on her side, so-o-o Hollywood. Spoken as a veteran Feminist. |
Gina8642 | Saturday, March 02, 2002 - 11:00 am     I think they may have very well made a good choice in getting rid of Peter. Team unity is very important at this stage, as well as team strength. I think the vote going three ways shows there was not an obvious choice on who should go. As far as Sara being lazy - the only evidence we've seen so far is her "Queen of the Nile" routine on the way in. We also had some "parading around" shots while Sean's voice-over complaining about her was playing. But I just rewatched the tape. In all the other shots, where Sara is in the background - She Is Working. I think that just makes a good story for MB/CBS to exploit. (Survivor has so much tape of each and every player - they could come up with "parading" shots for every survivor if they wanted. I'm sure they could make Patricia look like she thought she was a sex kitten if that was the story line they wanted. Try to look past MB/CBS's manipulative editing. All that said - Sara probably is a weaker cast member, and does need to watch out - I just don't think she is necessarily the laziest.) I think they were all contributing. They just needed to make the choice to boot somebody. Peter was the oddest. Causing some dissention in the ranks - so, bye, bye Peter. It was interesting that Sean and V voted together. They need to bond with some of the others before they become outsiders. I like the MMMMMsssss (whatever that "M" tribe is called) chances if they can work on the "team" aspect. (Here is Gina once again, instantly liking the underdog - I fall for it every game.) |
Llkoolaid | Saturday, March 02, 2002 - 11:31 am     If I ever get on to vote which I still can't do for some reason I think I might vote Sarah off. I was thinking Patricia but it is kind of obvious and I think Sean and Vesepia are smart enough to align with someone to break to break up the Rob Sarah alliance. Patricia should be easy to convince and maybe that dark haired woman. I love this show although I do see a rerun of the same types of people. |
Madelane | Saturday, March 02, 2002 - 02:06 pm     Half the reason I watch this show is to see if anyone hooks up. (Must be TI withdrawl) Seriously, speculating about romance is one of my favorite parts of Survivor. So I hope people will stop wishing Sarah off the island. I'm sure it makes sense for the tribe for her to go, but I'm all about the entertainment. |
Gina8642 | Saturday, March 02, 2002 - 02:12 pm     Madelane, You should read Peter's comments in his interviews. He says there are TWO romances afoot. Rob and Sara, AND Gina and Hunter. I gotta say, I like Gina and Hunter together. I think romance is always fun to watch. Even better knowing there is at least some realness to it on a reality show. This should be interesting to see how this will play out in the votes however....... |
Lancecrossfire | Saturday, March 02, 2002 - 03:24 pm     I think which way “dumb” is in the eye of the beholder. At this point in the game there are 3 main ways to approach voting someone off. One is to go buy who you think is causing the tribe to do badly in challenges (or holding the tribe back from doing a lot better). Winning IC means never having to say god bye. (at lest as long as you are a tribe) That is important to some people. Another is to vote off the person doing the least amount of work. That would be Sarah based on what they have shown us. I was thinking if she hadn’t been rowing the entire time, about ½ mile out dumping her overboard and letter her swim the rest of the way in would have helped to make up for no rowing. Of course that would either get you voted off first thing or get you a shoe in as someone to keep around for “speaking out” and saying what everyone else was probably wishing. Work being done or not being done for the daily living process is a very important factor for some people. The third way to cast your vote is based on who is most unlike you—who as a person just rubs you the wrong way more than anyone else. For some people, this is so distracting it affects the rest of everything they do. If that is the case, this trait is the most important thing for being able to get rough the first part of the game. All 3 views have a lot of validity to them. It seems that the one a person picks is the one that affects who they think the game will go for them. I don’t think that is necessarily dumb to pick the one that impacts you the most, unless it’s one that clearly ruins your chance of moving on as a tribe or as a person. An example of that would be Jerri. She let her issue of who she got along with affect how well the tribe did in challenges. I would bet that if Mike had not gotten burned, there wouldn’t have been any left from Jerri’s tribe (Tina, Colby, Keith) at the end, because they would have lost most if not all of the ICs. Jerri would have voted off all the people who would have been important to win an IC (Kel, Keith, Colby once she found out he didn’t want anything to do with her). I think at that point Jerri needed to think a bit past an irritation during the days for getting to stay longer. Others than that, it seems it’s just matter of what makes the game most comfortable for you. |
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