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Car54 | Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 10:14 am     There is also a spoiler out there that Hunter was doing a promotional appearance and told the audience to expect a big surprise ending. Course in S3, this was about the time when Carl told everyone that he and Teresa shared a bed after they got booted. It think MB puts out some spoilers about now every season to make us crazy. Or Robert could just be a bigmouth. Did Rosie jump on it? Course she is on the payroll now, so we can't depend on her to help us anymore! |
Seamonkey | Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 10:24 am     I didn't think it was a slip.. just watched it.. Rosie didn't blink an eye. She also didn't bite when he threw in "isn't she great?" about Kathy when they were talking about the loved ones coming out. I posted about Rosie/Robert under early show.. for what that is worth. I thought his list was people he saw as competition from the first.. which was Hunter, then he listed Gabe, John?, Tammy, etc and threw in Paschal (probably thinking about those underwater rocks..) |
Fruitbat | Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 10:26 am     I just heard it Pagal. I agree that it sounded like a slip. If I were not paying close attention, I would have dismissed it as Robert just talking about those with whom he bonded. But the context was strong players who were voted off. They started with Hunter and continued from there. No mention of Sean or Kathy, both obviously strong players. This is what I think......he was careful, as they all are, not to give anything away. He knows Paschall goes this week and that stuck in his mind that he could talk freely up until that part in the season. I think he did blow it. Others will check in with their take hopefully. |
Fruitbat | Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 10:31 am     I am not sure. I will wait to jump and vote but it really did sound like he was speaking of strong players who have been voted off. >>>She also didn't bite when he threw in "isn't she great?" about Kathy when they were talking about the loved ones coming out.<<< Explain what you mean....she didn't bite. I think I missed this comment so I don't know why she should have bitten. |
Fruitbat | Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 10:34 am     I don't know what would be a surprize ending. I can see anyone of them winning and calculate how they got there. Sean would be the biggest surprize I suppose. |
Grooch | Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 10:38 am     I'm thinking maybe it is the way they vote or something. Maybe the winner of the last I/C doesn't get to pick who he wants to go with, but the second place person is the one who goes? A call in vote? That would be the only surprising thing to me. I can see any of them winning. |
Fruitbat | Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 10:44 am     That makes sense Grooch. I said from the beginning that MB would dispense with the winner choosing his opposition. A pattern was developing and it was boring. It may even be more complicated than 1st and 2nd go to the end. I bet that is what he means. I am getting excited. |
Fruitbat | Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 10:53 am     I think it possible that they are doing some rehersals for the Sunday show. Robert lost track of the sequence a bit. Paschall is there at rehersal. The only ones that are not are the final 4 or 3. Because of this it is in his mind that Paschall is free game. |
Car54 | Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 10:59 am     For a long time Rosie was picking Kathy to win. Since she has been hired as host she is less vocal. I think she knows the final 4 at least. |
Muse | Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 11:24 am     This past week Rosie suddenly switched to saying that she thinks Vee or Paschal will win. I don't know if that means anything (personally, I'm doubting that she knows the winner - maybe the final two, though), but it is sort of interesting. As for Robert - I think it could be a slip up. But can someone who saw Rosie answer me something? Did Rosie specifically ask about people who were booted early? Or did she ask about people he *thought* would go far? Because if it's the latter...he could have just been saying who he thought were threats while he was in the game (after all, he and Kathy agreed that Paschal was a serious threat). But if it's the former - well, that might mean a serious mistake on Rob's part. Either way...unless Pappy wins, Rob's gotta be kicking himself for saying something that looks like a huge spoiler.  |
Seamonkey | Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 12:13 pm     I thought she first asked if he thought he'd win and he said yes, he thought he be in the final, then they discussed other strong players. He mentioned Hunter and how releived Rotu was that Hunter went early, pre-merge. I thought he was then listing other strong players. Bat.. what I meant by Rosie didn't bite was that she was asking about the visit by the loved ones, specifically his sister. They showed a clip of him hugging his sister when she was eliminated from the contest. And it was mentioned that only Kathy's son got to stay overnight.. at the mention of Kathy's name Robert quickly said "isn't she great?" .. it was an interjection and Rosie didn't "bite" or blink, or run with it, she just went on with what she was saying or asking. She didn't stop and say "oh yeah, she's great!" or go off on the subject of Kathy. That's all I meant. I was just reporting what I saw/heard and thought. I was posting at the same time as Bat so I was not replying to that post. I'm curious .. if they are rehearsing.. why wouldn't they all be there.. the final two would be part of the show and if they were segregated out, that would be more telling, more likely to slip out. Muse, I didn't think she asked him who he thought would go far, just who was competitive.. he mentioned Hunter, then basically several of his alliance and then stuck Paschal in there. Maybe it was a slip; I sure didn't see that in his face or Rosie's, but I wasn't micro-analyzing it either. |
Moondance | Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 12:20 pm     Sea... I think we saw the same show... I just downloaded the interview and I saw/heard it as you did... if anyone is interested just go to http://survivorfever.net/index4.html |
Fruitbat | Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 12:38 pm     I just listened to it again. Thanks for the link Moon. I see now that he was just talking about strong players. No slip. Hard not to let your hopes get in the way of such things. I don't think Rosie knows who the winner is but she has probably tallied the votes in her mind and may have a good guess. She would have to know the final 2 I would think. |
Pagal | Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 12:39 pm     Thanks for the feedback everyone!! Guess we'll have to wait and see if Robert slipped or not. I'm still not sure how to take what I heard - it startled me that's for sure! |
Webkitty | Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 01:28 pm     I just watched it again, I didn't think any clues were given away or anything was said that was between the lines, as far as Pappy goes. He was just naming off who he thought the strong players were, and Pappy was sort of an after thought. I did notice when Robert said "Isn't she great?" in reference to Kathy, that Rosie did seem to skip past that VERY quickly. I still think Kathy wins this. |
Seamonkey | Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 01:35 pm     I know what you mean about hopes, Bat.. up or down, in fact.. sometimes I almost want to say "don't confuse me with all this information!" but I cannot resist the information. And we will learn much this week between TAR and SIV endings.. |
Fruitbat | Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 01:53 pm     Paschall was an after thought. I saw that. I think he threw him in because he likes him but did not necessarily consider him a strong player, at least in the top 5. |
Muse | Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 06:55 pm     Survivor News is reporting that either Paschal or Sean go in this episode. They're pretty reliable, so I believe it. I'm worried about Paschal now. Along with Kathy, he's my favorite. |
Fruitbat | Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 07:14 pm     That is quite an either or. We have been around that bush a couple of times in each thread. |
Prettywomen | Friday, May 17, 2002 - 01:18 pm     here is my picks: neleh will win, Paschal will be second and cathy will be third...... |
Car54 | Friday, May 17, 2002 - 02:27 pm     Not a Spoiler but I am chintzy and didn't want to start a new thread: ice guy might finish first: Judge makes 'Survivor' finale Sunday By STEVE MURRAY Atlanta Journal-Constitution Staff Writer Monty Brinton / CBS Survivor: Marquesas contestant Paschal English "Survivor: Marquesas" 8 p.m. Sunday on CBS (7093) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Related: • Judge's hometown celebrating When it comes to "Survivor: Marquesas," the old slogan "nice guys finish last" might not be such a bad thing for personable Thomaston resident Paschal "Pappy" English. After all, finishing last on this show means you score $1 million. One thing we know for sure: English, the Griffin Judicial Circuit Superior Court judge, will finish close to last, at the very least. He's already hung in there one episode longer than the previous Georgia contestant, Jackson's Teresa "T-Bird" Cooper, who was the 12th of 16 contestants to get kicked out of "Survivor: Africa" last January. The finale of "Marquesas," the fourth installment of the reality-show franchise, will air Sunday evening. As usual, the folks at CBS are keeping a few facts up their sleeves, having tinkered with the endings of all three previous versions. The announcement of the winner of the first "Survivor," for instance, was taped, while the final votes for "Outback" and "Africa" were aired live. "Africa" added another trick element with some visual sleight-of-hand. Host Jeff Probst seemed to be tallying the final ballots on location in Kenya. But when Ethan Zohn won the jackpot, the cameras pulled back to reveal that the tribal council set had been transported to CBS' Los Angeles studio, and the scene was playing out live. (The illusion was aided because the finalists wore their threadbare original clothes, and the men were ordered to stop shaving 39 days before the finale.) Who knows if producer Mark Burnett has any fresh tricks in store. But CBS has announced that the final ballots will again be read live on Sunday, near the end of a two-hour taped episode that includes the elimination of two of the remaining four players (English, Neleh Dennis, Vecepia Towery and Kathy Vavrick-O'Brien). The booted two will join the previous five ousted tribemates, forming a jury of seven who will determine the winner. Presumably, the actual casting of their votes will have been pre-taped back on the island. The jury and the two finalists will appear live to hear the final votes tallied by host Jeff Probst before an audience comprising cast members' family, previous "Survivor" contestants, contest winners, journalists and assorted New York City glitterati. That's another change: Unlike previous "Survivor" conclusions, Sunday's will take place in Manhattan. At 10 p.m., after the naming of the winner, Rosie O'Donnell will host a live reunion show from Central Park, featuring all 16 members of the "Marquesas" challenge. At this point, it's impossible to really predict who'll be the last person standing. Too much depends on who wins immunity in upcoming challenges. Though he was the oldest player on "Survivor: Marquesas," English, who turned 58 in March, has proven to be one of the most resilient tribemates. He won one of the more grueling immunity challenges. More importantly, his level-headed approach and reluctance to engage in skullduggery has made him one of the more popular teammates. Now, though, his very likability may hurt his chances to become one of the final two players. As contestant Kathy has repeatedly pointed out, anybody who has to go up against the agreeable justice for the final vote doesn't stand much chance of winning that $1 million. And that could be the downside of being a nice guy after all. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hometown planning 'Survivor' party Paschal English's hometown of Thomaston is proudly carrying a tiki torch for its native son, who's one of four finalists in "Survivor: Marquesas." On Friday, downtown Thomaston, northwest of Macon, was giddily transforming itself into the Pappiest place on earth. Some 36 tons of sand was making the courthouse parking lot into a reasonable facsimile of Nuku Hiva's beach, and volunteers from several area garden clubs were fashioning palm trees out of the building's stately columns. "It's a small town," says Thomaston Times editor Kim Madlom. "We're not trying to approach this from a totally unbiased angle." Indeed, when the art deco Ritz Theater announced plans to show Sunday's televised "Survivor" finale on its big screen, all 300 tickets were snapped up in 22 minutes. To accommodate the many others who want to publicly root on the Griffin Judicial Circuit Superior Court judge nicknamed "Pappy," big-screen TVs will be placed in the windows of downtown's Bank of Upson, and a 14-foot screen is being erected in front of the Upson County Courthouse. "Survivor" fans can picnic on the courthouse lawn beginning at 6 p.m., says Thomaston-Upson Chamber of Commerce vice president Sarah Armstrong. Restaurants on the square will remain open Sunday evening. "If he doesn't win, that's fine, he's done us and Thomaston so proud," Armstrong says. "And who's to say there won't be a parade even if he's first runner-up!" -- Jill Vejnoska |
Car54 | Friday, May 17, 2002 - 02:31 pm     Posted on Fri, May. 17, 2002 Thomaston's Survivor advances to final By Gray Beverley Telegraph Staff Writer THOMASTON - He's in the final four. Paschal English, the Superior Court judge from Thomaston, has made it to the last episode of this season's "Survivor," which will air Sunday on CBS. English has a 1-in-4 chance of being the game show's winner, which would earn him $1 million and at least an hour of fame. As the final vote is read Sunday, millions of viewers are expected to tune in, just as they have each week since "Survivor: Marquesas" first aired Feb. 28. Having one of their own in the running has given this town of 10,000 people, still reeling from the closing of Thomaston Mills last year, a reason to cheer. "We're very excited and very proud of our contestant," said Thomaston Mayor Samuel Brewton on Wednesday. And that was before English made it to the final four. Hundreds of residents and 'Survivor' fans are expected to fill the Ritz Theatre downtown and the courthouse square here to watch the program Sunday. Weather permitting, sand will be poured to create an artificial beach, an elaborate television will be erected and a live feed from CBS will beam Thomaston to television sets across America. "This will be a first for our little community," the mayor said. At 58, English is the second-oldest cast member to make it to the final four. In the original "Survivor," Rudy Boesch, a 72-year-old retired Navy SEAL from Virginia Beach, finished in third place. But it is not only English's age that makes the hometown proud. Allowed to bring one "luxury item" on the island, some brought massage oils or a pillow. English brought an American flag. Though some contestants talked behind each others' backs - to the television cameras - English vowed not to be negative. Perhaps because of that or his being the eldest cast member, tribe-mates gave him the affectionate nickname "Pappy." At one of many Survivor parties in Thomaston on Thursday night, David McCrary joked that English must have won the $1 million prize because the Bank of Upson is displaying a large "We love Pappy" banner. During the show, McCrary's neighbor, Chris Smith, was checking his lawn. Asked why he wasn't watching "Survivor," Smith replied: "It's a commercial." Nancy Adams attended another "Survivor" party across town. She was among a dozen or so women in the living room of Donnie Tyler's home, cheering as English spoke on Thursday's episode. "I mean from the very first (episode), it has been fever around Thomaston," she said. The celebration continued among the dozen or so men watching in the kitchen once they learned English would survive another show. Last November, 16 contestants were left with minimal supplies on Nuku Hiva, part of Tahiti's Marquesas islands, about half-way between Los Angeles and Sydney, Australia. They began the adventure as two tribes of eight players each, setting up communities in which members, ideally, looked for food and monitored the campfire but, really, were busier plotting against one another and forming voting blocs. In almost every weekly broadcast, the contestants were given challenges to win exotic goodies and immunity from expulsion. Every three days, one contestant was voted off the island by fellow game-players. Thus voting blocs, or alliances, are critical for survival. Former contestant Teresa Cooper of Jackson, who made it to the final five players in "Survivor: Africa," correctly predicted that English would make it to the final episode. But she said, at this point, luck is more to do with the game than anything else. Cooper predicted Wednesday that an "outrageous" tie-breaker will determine the final three contestants. She thinks the ability to transfer a won immunity will be a factor in naming the final two. If he makes it that far, English's popularity - not only in Thomaston but back on Nuku Hiva - will come in handy. "Get to the final two, and you're a millionaire," Cooper said of English's chances. The final vote was cast in December by a jury composed of the previous nine contestants evicted off the island. Their decision has been given the secrecy of a nuclear launch code. Only a few people, if any, know who wins the $1 million until Sunday. Some refused to guess. |
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