Julieboo | Friday, May 10, 2002 - 01:18 pm     Car (or anyone), who would feel betrayed if Kathy hooked with Robert? I think Z/J/T would think that would be a natural thing to do (not betrayful, if betrayful is a word). And I don't think N/P (or V/S for that matter) would feel betrayed because then they'd all be even with 2 men teams.... |
Grooch | Friday, May 10, 2002 - 01:29 pm     Julie, I think S/V P/N & Kathy agreed to get each other to the final 5 and then it wsa everyman for himself. So if she went against it, they would have an excuse to vote her off as soon as possible. ANd if they end up on the jury they would be angry at her and vote for the other person (if she made it to the end.) |
Julieboo | Friday, May 10, 2002 - 01:31 pm     Oh, okay. I thought the 5 were from the original Rotu...(all but Gabe, Neleh & Paschal). Now it makes A LOT more sense. A LOT!!! Thanks Grooch!!!! |
Grooch | Friday, May 10, 2002 - 01:36 pm     That was at first, but it fell apart. First they got rid of Gabe and then Vee switched back to her old tribe. Then Kathy and P/N got togther with S/V after the cocnut chopping incident. |
Julieboo | Friday, May 10, 2002 - 01:46 pm     But...j/z/t/r are 4 on the jury as (could be) s/v/p/n. Hmmm, this is making my head hurt. |
Seamonkey | Friday, May 10, 2002 - 03:58 pm     Just think how much is was making Kathy's head hurt!! Or Neleh's or Paschal's or Vee's or Sean's... |
Fruitbat | Monday, May 13, 2002 - 05:44 am     ~bump~ We have so many threads discussing this weeks vote it is making my head spin. (I am watching too much TV, that damn Dell ad creeps into my speech) I am not assuming that Paschall wins immunity. That is not clear to me at all. We may know more as the week progresses as to what the challenge is. I am thinking the literary reference is not to the plot of Tale of Two Cities but a tale Jeff will tell for a memory challenge. RC or IC? Does anyone remember from past seasons? OR the best of times worst of times quote. I lean toward the latter and I am guessing a Survior says it when talking to another about how difficult this week is, voting out one of their own. I think Paschalls meeting his wife and hearing her say be strong and stay in the game will prevent him from giving the neclace away. Neleh would tell him not to as well. Car, you have a good point when you say that why even have the rule be known if no one gives it away. I don't know but I have a feeling all keep it. It adds another dimention to our thought process and suspense, if nothing else. Look at all the speculation going on now. It is like doing the Visa card....not necessary but just makes things more interesting. Sooooooo I am thinking, for the moment, that Neleh goes and someone other than Paschall wins IC. Paschall, Sean, Vee and Kathy go into the final round. Sean is voted off for the biggest threat to win with the Richard Hatch theory. Kathy wins final IC and takes Paschall with her. |
Fruitbat | Monday, May 13, 2002 - 06:08 am     I also see...... Kathy is being edited to look like she is in the middle and a free agent. She has been with Neleh and Pap since day one. That is a pretty strong situation. She may see her opportunity with Sean and Vee being better but how will that look to the jury? They have all consistantly voted for Sean or Vee to go. Could she win *against* them or be stepped over for going *with* them? She will stick with P/N and Vee goes this week. This show is damn good. |
Fruitbat | Monday, May 13, 2002 - 06:12 am     We are being led to think Neleh goes. Too many arrows are aimed in her direction with the editing. I think she is safe this week. |
Squaredsc | Monday, May 13, 2002 - 07:15 am     you are right ms. bat, neleh being voted out is too obvious, but i am leaning towards sean sacrificing himself for vee, which is why they are showing the clip of him saying that they aren't tight, i think its just to throw us off, or i am overanalyzing this too much. but i have a feeling that sean will get voted out this week, even though i would love for him to make the final three at least. |
Car54 | Monday, May 13, 2002 - 07:57 am     I think Neleh is going to win the new car this week and people are going to p*ssy to her about it. Much ado about nothing. The boots so far have no really bad things to say about Sean and Neleh, but virtually nothing to say about Kathy, Vee or Paschel. Right now that is what I am taking as a clue. |
Twiggyish | Monday, May 13, 2002 - 08:46 am     I think Kathy is the swing vote. (or edited to appear that way) We already know that Neleh and Pappy form one alliance. Vee and Sean form the other alliance. I don't think either group sees Kathy as a threat. She could be in a powerful position right now. It's obvious both teams will try to break up the other alliance. I agree Car, winning a car would push them to vote Neleh out. She's already annoyed everyone with her bragging. I'm going over to Survivor Fever and read their speculation. |
Fruitbat | Monday, May 13, 2002 - 09:19 am     I am hoping Vee goes this week. Sean wins IC next and Neleh goes, leaving Sean, Kathy and Paschall in the final three and Kathy and Sean the final 2. I can see the jury voting for Sean as the ultimate player. From the underdog to winner. |
Wink | Monday, May 13, 2002 - 09:23 am     Fruit I see a Vee exit this week also. I think Kathy will still side with P/N for one more vote and Vee will be the target with Neleh gone next. I think a Kathy/Sean/Paschal final 3 would be the most dramatic. |
Grooch | Monday, May 13, 2002 - 09:27 am     I agree with both of you, Wink and Bat. I'm hoping for a Kathy/Sean final 2. It would be really hard for the jury to decide. They both played the game the best. |
Twiggyish | Monday, May 13, 2002 - 09:38 am     Yup, I see Kathy and Sean in the end, too. |
Squaredsc | Monday, May 13, 2002 - 12:19 pm     ok, i bow to greater wisdom and hope that sean does make the final 3 at least. thats all im hoping for, 'cause everyone that i have wanted to win gets voted off, from the amazing race both seasons to s1,2,3, and now 4. go sean, go sean!! |
Fruitbat | Monday, May 13, 2002 - 12:28 pm     I rooted for Richard Hatch, Alicia and Africa I did not care at first but then warmed to little Kim. It is time for my choice to win! |
Fruitbat | Monday, May 13, 2002 - 12:35 pm     I think Sean would win this if either Kathy went with them (Sean and Vee) this week or he won IC's. I still remember Gina saying a lot of this game is luck. If he were in the final two he would walk away with it against *any* of the remaining players. They would have to admire the staying power of an underdog. That man has been outnumbered since the merge and he is still there! Everyone likes him as well. |
Grooch | Monday, May 13, 2002 - 12:37 pm     But doesn't that apply to Kathy also? Nobody expected her to make it either. I always thought of her as an underdog also. |
Grooch | Monday, May 13, 2002 - 12:37 pm     Plus, she did pee on John's hand. He owes her big time. |
Grooch | Monday, May 13, 2002 - 12:38 pm     I would be happy if either of them win. |
Wink | Monday, May 13, 2002 - 12:44 pm     I agree with Grooch (I am in a Grooch agree groove today). I think both Kathy and Sean would be considered the leading underdogs and probably Kathy even moreso since she does not "appear" to belong to a group of 2. |
Fruitbat | Monday, May 13, 2002 - 12:46 pm     That is true but I am not looking at that. I want Sean to win.  |
Weinermr | Monday, May 13, 2002 - 01:00 pm     <Nobody expected her to make it either> Not quite nobody  |