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Car54

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 01:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The part I didn't understand is did John ever specifically say Kathy was the target when they first made their pact?

All I remember is that he re-assured them that they were now Rotu, and that N/P/K were Maraamu, and after the merge if they were loyal, the new moos would go first.
So Rob was totally blowing smoke about Kathy being the target, right? (I understand that she is the logical first pick, but no one said her name specifically, did they?)

Then Kathy lets the old Rotus know that Rob has spilled the beans, John back-peddles and reneges based on Rob telling the plan... right?

I think Rob, being the Psych major that he is knows how much open confrontation under pressure messes people up...in this kind of intense arena, a big out in the open blow up really freaks people out...he kept saying he could not find an under the table angle...so the big fight was a last ditch effort. It seemed like he wanted to show at least John and Zoe in a bad light, cast doubt in the minds of the innocent Moos, .... possibly sway Kathy.

It is just that Kathy, tho nutty, listened, but didn't give in to the crazies enough to let it cost her immunity...she fought and won it, and saved her own neck.

Nice try Rob.

I think this was a big mistake for Sean...he had been keeping a fairly low profile... no big issues, some humor..but by participating in Rob's plan he really re-associated himself with Rob and made himself a target again. Not a good thing.

Sean should be hoping that Kathy's confrontation with Zoe and John is a biggie and that he can pull of immunity this next week.

Julieboo

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 02:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Car, I'm so glad you saw my point of no one saying that the first to go had to be Kathy. It could have been Kathy, Neleh or Paschal. So looks like Rob was trying to get a fight. He did say he tried going up one side, then the other, so his last resort was to try to plow right through the middle. Well he plowed thru the middle but it didn't work...

Julieboo

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 02:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
but... it still doesn't splain why Sean was so ticked at John.

Car54

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 02:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
pic

Car54

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 02:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sean said that he felt that he and John had bonded and that they were friends because they had talked about how difficult it was being a gay man/black man...and that they were allies...then when Rob mounted his attack, John put all the new Rotus in a pack, and denied that they had an alliance, felt he didn't have to keep it.

I think John was putting his game before the personal and Sean felt they had bonded personally and felt betrayed.

Fruitbat

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 04:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ROLF! Car.

Don't forget that we do not see it all. It really did sound like they had decided on Kathy first. When confronted by Rob on this, Zoe clutched and did a poor job of lying. There would have been no need to lie or be uncomfortable. She would have easily handled the question with a no.

Yuhuru

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 04:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Mindyrama is right. The very loud fight seemed to be the way to let N & P know that John was responsible for the Gabe boot.

I don't think Sean made a mistake. He has nothing to lose. I think he knows he's toast.

I believe that even if Kathy hadn't gotten IM, Rob would have been voted out. He kicked but in the last reward & immunity challenge. He was definitely a threat. They couldn't afford to keep him around long.

Car54

Friday, April 12, 2002 - 07:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bat, I agree that Kathy was the obvious first new Moo boot, but I seriously doubt the conversation between Rob and John ever got to that level. It appeared to be "look, we vote them before we vote you." Done. I just don't think there was a lot of detail or discussion to the plot, I think Rob made it up based on his probably accurate assumptions.

Moondance

Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 03:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Rob sighting!!!
Urgrace e-mailed the pix and wanted me to post...
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Car54

Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 04:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
arghhhhhhhhhhH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Moondance

Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 04:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Urgrace made me

Neko

Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 04:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ACK!neko

Car54

Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 05:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, I bet she made you post the ones in the sports thread too, missy.....I see a pattern developing here!

Moondance

Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 05:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah well she did... Gracie made me do it! I swear! Yeah!

Seamonkey

Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 05:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Moon,, you should have put that in the "in the buff" thread

Urgrace

Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 05:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wait a minute.....? Moonie you rascal. That's not exactly how I remember it.

Car54

Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 05:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Busted!

Moondance

Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 06:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ooopps

Wink

Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 10:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh my. Excuse me while I figure out what needs fixin.123

Sia

Sunday, April 14, 2002 - 12:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry, I don't think that's the Boston Rob who was on Survivor! No way! Where'd this picture come from?

Urgrace

Monday, April 15, 2002 - 01:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sia, it is definately not Rob, just some similarities! LOL

Moondance

Monday, April 15, 2002 - 01:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It was a joke Sia:)