Brandon is an idiot

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Gina8642

Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 06:09 pm Click here to edit this post
Brandon blew his chance at winning survivor.

Dumb, dumb, dumb......

Gina8642

Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 06:15 pm Click here to edit this post
He totally blew it. Last Episode had he voted with the Sam.s, then he could have cemented at least a cease fire between himself and Frank until all the Boran were gone.

If you don't count Kelly as Boran here, Brandon could have made it to at least the last five. Maybe further if Kelly/Young Kim/Brandon had teamed.

Instead he gets everyone peeved at him. Doesn't work the Sam's advantage.

Bad move Brandon, and you were my favorite of those left....

Kinda' like Amber last season, totally wasted opportunities

Car54

Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 06:28 pm Click here to edit this post
I am just so mad at him- he had about 3 ways to play this and he totally wasted his chance.

Dumb, Dumb, Dumb. AND he gets to spend 3 days alone with Kelly, who he booted!

Grooch

Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 06:37 pm Click here to edit this post
He did blow it, but I liked his final words.

He wasn't bitter at all and he enjoyed himself. And he tried to clear the air about Kim and how he likes her and he was sorry he hurt her. He admitted he enjoyed stirring the pot.

He finally showed some redeeming qualities.

Car54

Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 07:01 pm Click here to edit this post
Dumb, dumb, dumb. I hope his grandma hits him upside the head.
He and Lex deserve each other. Dumb.

Joan

Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 07:23 pm Click here to edit this post
I thought Kim was very astute to point out that her weakness is naïveté and that she mistakenly assumes friendships are part of the game.

Twiggyish

Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 07:40 pm Click here to edit this post
Me too, Grooch.

Grooch

Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 07:53 pm Click here to edit this post
Thanks Twiggy

Awareinva

Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 08:56 pm Click here to edit this post
I agree that his final words were really nice. He was one of the most interesting players on Survivor so far. I think Brandon and Lex were both focusing on the final 2 too hard. They were trying to stick with someone less likable than themselves and forgot that they are far from the finish line. Maybe after being out there so many days, everything takes on an urgency that we don't realize.

I'll be looking forward to Brandon's interviews. Ought to be very interesting!

Fruitbat

Friday, December 14, 2001 - 03:53 am Click here to edit this post
I don't think we saw the entire story. Frank is obviously VERY anti gay. Brandon said he told everyone that he could not be on a team with Frank. He said he did not want anyone at home to see him aligned with him. It was a matter of principal and I understand that.

Being on the receiving end of that blind ignorant hate must be horrific.

He could have gone further, unfortunately he hurt Kim and T's chance too. I wanted to see them as the final 3. Not because I do not like Ethan and Tom but I wanted to see the underdogs rise from the ashes and see Lex go down in flames.

Missy2

Friday, December 14, 2001 - 04:02 am Click here to edit this post
I also think there was a lot of info left out on the Frank and Brandon story. But I think that Brandon wanted to go home too. I mean he said in his final words he never even went camping! haha!

Llkoolaid

Friday, December 14, 2001 - 06:20 am Click here to edit this post
I take back every good thing I have said about Brandon, he is a stupid moron and I am glad to see the whiner gone. Not only is he stupid so are all the rest of Samburu, they couldn't put their petty differences aside and work as a team so now they are toast and I am going to hopefully enjoy watching each and everyone of them go down. They had the advantage and just handed it back to Boran on a silver platter. I have no idea what is going to happen next, whether Tom and Frank are going to make a deal or is it another round of pagonging.
Go Ethan is all I can say now.

Grooch

Friday, December 14, 2001 - 06:24 am Click here to edit this post
I find it funny that Brandon was the reason Kelly got voted off and they have to spend the next 3 days together alone. I would love to be a fly on that wall.

Willi

Friday, December 14, 2001 - 06:27 am Click here to edit this post
I had a good giggle over that too Grooch!

:)

Fruitbat

Friday, December 14, 2001 - 06:27 am Click here to edit this post
Kool......yes. Foolish. T is the only one that had a clear sense of things and she was unable to convince them to vote out Lex when they had the chance. They threw it all away.

Resortgirl

Friday, December 14, 2001 - 08:10 am Click here to edit this post
On the Early show Brandon said he had a blast with Kelly after being booted... he also said he talked alot to Kelly, Kim P and Lex. I missed the first couple of words and am not sure if he was talking about during the game or after. If it's after that doesn't look good for Lex or Kim P. He also had nothing good to say about Frank or Tom. He did say he understood Tom's bigotry because he lived in a small southern town where all the "rednecks" live and doesn't really know any better. Yikes!

Fruitbat

Friday, December 14, 2001 - 09:05 am Click here to edit this post
I am sure he was told not to mention any other jury members so he only said that he and Kelly had a ball on the jury. He mentioned that he was in touch with all of them now but definately mentioned Lex, Kelly and Kim by name. Said he spoke with Kelly everyday and Kim every other day.

He was adorable. He, Bryant and Jane had a nice rapport. He mentioned he was going back to his life and had no show biz aspirations. He will never go camping again. He was upbeat and witty. Very cute.

He also said he was intending to go back to SAM even with Frank. He was pushed about Frank and said he did not like him but he is sure he has some redeeming qualities, he just hadn't seen any.

Said both Tom and Frank were homophobic. The jury was the most fun he has had in his life.

Crazydog

Friday, December 14, 2001 - 09:18 am Click here to edit this post
My opinion of Brandon definitely changed since the beginning. In the beginning, I couldn't stand this whiny, lazy idiot. As the show went on, I thought Brandon was a lot smarter than most of us gave him credit for and he was hilarious.

More from the early show. For some reason, he came across as a very nice person, not the flamboyantly gay character on Survivor. I thought he was a hoot.

He realized he couldn't win after he voted Kelly off. He thought he was being strategic because it would be 4-4 [indicating that he intended to rejoin Samburu as I suspected]. But he had no idea how angry little Kim would be at him.

Tom is from rural Virginia, Kentucky, wherever [Brandon's words] and he just didn't like Brandon. Bryant asked if Tom was really happy go lucky guy that likes everyone. BRandon said Tom is happy go lucky but does not like everyone, he is racist and homophobic.

Brandon thought Frnak is a really nice guy in his own way, but he doesn't like him. He is everything Brandon is not. There has to be some good in everyone, though. They didn't talk much during the movie.

BRandon does not want this to go anywhere. He has a great life, great job, great friends back home. He did this because he thought 20 something gays on TV are shown as promiscuous and strung out. He thinks he was edited to become every mainstream gay person's worst nightmare on TV. However, he thinks he was portrayed accurately.

Britchick

Friday, December 14, 2001 - 09:41 am Click here to edit this post
Well, I don't quite understand how last week the Insider clips were making out he was some kind of strategic genius with a masterplan and then this week, even before Lex won immunity, it looked as though he had no real plan, wasn't even bothering to fight his own corner and had in fact made a stupid decision.
Lex also looked ridiculous in this episode - he seemed like such a great guy with his eye on the ball at the start of this game. His answer to Jeff in Tribal Council about his infamous "gut" was possibly the funniest thing ever. Oh no, that was everyone's reaction to Frank and Brandon's date! Good episode!

Car54

Friday, December 14, 2001 - 09:48 am Click here to edit this post
Did you see Teresa's face when Lex was talking about his Gut! Pretty funny!

Grooch

Friday, December 14, 2001 - 09:49 am Click here to edit this post
Britchick, when Lex was talking about his gut never being wrong and then they showed the look on Theresa's face, it was classic. :)

Car54

Friday, December 14, 2001 - 09:56 am Click here to edit this post
Grooch- JINX!\

I think it would be so funny if Lex did make final 2 if Teresa would stand up from the Jury and tell him she voted him!

Kep421

Friday, December 14, 2001 - 10:50 am Click here to edit this post
BTW, I think the title of this thread is a total understatement.

It just doesn't do Brandon full justice...

Gina8642

Friday, December 14, 2001 - 03:59 pm Click here to edit this post
Well, I started this thread and I have to admit this morning's interview tempered my opinion a little bit. Apparently Kim was the bigger idiot because she was too naive to realize what Brandon had done could be strategic.

However, Brandon is still an idiot because of the Kelly vote. Solidify your position before getting all daring and back-stabbing.

I wonder how far Frank and Tom go beacuse of all the comparisons of the two. hmmmm.....

(oh, and I liked Brandon in the interview too. But all those admiring how he says he has "no interest" in show business - That is EXACTLY what Colleen said. yeah right!)

Car54

Friday, December 14, 2001 - 04:28 pm Click here to edit this post
He is still an idiot in the game....he missed some major opportunities, and as far as we have seen, made no efforts to make things right.

Cute, funny, seems like a very nice young man. Blew the game tho.

Gina, I think Tom may be positioning himself to go to F2 with Frank.

Smileeys

Saturday, December 15, 2001 - 12:00 am Click here to edit this post
If Brandon had told her before he voted what he was up to then Kim may be an idiot but Brandon didn't tell anyone before he voted so why should they trust him. Ever heard the saying, "Fool me once, shame on you but fool me twice and shame on me"? He could have agreed to vote their way and voted differenly again and there was absolutely no reason to trust his word. Also, am I the only one who finds it odd that he had at least two explanations for his vote. One, that he was going to switch back to SAM next time and Two, he voted that way because no way was he going to be in an alliance with Frank. If he switched back then he would be in an alliance w/ F - Makes no sense to me!

Knightpatti

Saturday, December 15, 2001 - 05:48 pm Click here to edit this post
Brandon said he voted Kelly off because she was so smart. He felt that she was a threat to him and he considers himself very smart, too.

Squaredsc

Saturday, December 15, 2001 - 06:30 pm Click here to edit this post
if he was so smart he would have realized that he can't switch from one alliance to another without getting votes, in this case voted out. i don't think that he disliked frank because he was homophobic, i think he didn't like frank because frank wanted him to get off his lazy a** and do something.

Smileeys

Saturday, December 15, 2001 - 11:18 pm Click here to edit this post
And his saying he voted Kelly out b/c she was so smart is a third explanation. I don't even think he knew what his reasons were - guess it was that gut thing again.

:) Totally agree, Square

Gina8642

Sunday, December 16, 2001 - 07:05 am Click here to edit this post
Brandon and Frank were apparently still willing to work together, the weakness was Kim.

Somewhere in one of his interviews, Brandon said at the movies mostly he and Frank discussed how to get "Kim back on board" in the Sam. allience.

They were willing, Kim wasn't.

I don't know where Teresa stood, because she wasn't mentioned - this may have affected things too)

You all are right, he should have said something to Kim before the Kelly vote. However, Kim P. should have gone with Brandon and the Sam.s anyway - she can trust them more then anyone else.

Does she really think she can go further by siding with the Boran??!!???. I bet she is out in the next three votes, unless she pulls off an immunity streak a la Colby or Kelly Wigglesworth.

Knightpatti

Sunday, December 16, 2001 - 07:47 pm Click here to edit this post
I truly believe it is over for Little Kim. She said herself that she was naive. Her strength would have been to go with Brandon and Frank.

Smileeys

Sunday, December 16, 2001 - 08:52 pm Click here to edit this post
I don't know if this hurt her chances or not but I do know that if it were me, there is no way I would have trusted Brandon again or been in any kind of alliance with him. And he keeps contradicting himself so I think she was right not to trust him again. I don't trust a thing that comes out of his mouth :)

Muse

Sunday, December 16, 2001 - 09:49 pm Click here to edit this post
I think Kim did herself in by voting Brandon off, too. I can understand why she was upset (it was incredibly stupid of Brandon not to say something to her about his vote), but Brandon *was* still on her side when he voted for Kelly. Considering what he did for Lindsey (someone he didn't even like), I think he would've been loyal to the end, and that she should have realized that. But she took the vote for Kelly too personally.

Kim is a big target now, I think. If the ex-Boran alliance (Lex, Ethan, Tom, and Mama Kim) stays together, she and the ex-Samburu will be picked off one by one. I think there's a good chance that'll happen. And even if it doesn't - she lost her closest ally. If she sticks with Frank and Theresa (and maybe even some of the others, since Tom is so friendly with Frank now), she'll still be voted off within the next few votes since she's not at the core of any alliance anymore. The Samburu four could've gotten control of the game, and she and Brandon would have had a good shot of making the final two, with her winning. But as it is now, she'll have to work awfully hard to even make it to the final four.