Carl on Regis

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Tksoard

Monday, October 29, 2001 - 08:09 am Click here to edit this post
He looked great!! No beard. They showed his audition tape, and his and Lindseys pleas to stay. Lindseys father is a top lawyer in Portland OR. and Silas's dad is an oral surgeon, so why were they complaining about money? The hardest thing for him on the show was the youngsters. HA!! Good interview, he looked really good!! If you watch Regis, the interview is about 25 min into the show.

Guinevere

Monday, October 29, 2001 - 12:27 pm Click here to edit this post
Are Lindsey and Silas supported by their parents? They are in their 20s, aren't they? If they are self-supporting, I don't know why it matters that their parents have money.

Of course, I didn't really buy the "Carl should go because he has money" thing, but Carl certainly opened himself up for it with his smug bragging. No, I thought that Carl should go because he was a smug, self-satisfied jerk who was plotting against the youngsters from the start. So I have no problem with him being voted out.

In general, I think the who does/doesn't need the money argument is weak, but I can see it being something to hang your hat on, or to help you decide between two people. All in all, I think I prefer to see the money go to really make a difference in someone's life, rather than just making a rich guy even richer.

Crazydog

Monday, October 29, 2001 - 12:38 pm Click here to edit this post
Gwen, I agree with you on the money issue. I know plenty of people in their 20s whose parents are filthy rich, but are not getting a dime of support. Many of them are in fact struggling financially but either the parents think part of being grown up is supporting yourself or they are too proud (and rightfully so) to ask for money from mommy and daddy. The fact that Lindsey and Silas have rich parents should have no effect on their own situation.

I agree with you completely about Carl - the more I saw him, the less I liked him. He recognized fully that the youngsters were constantly trying to get under the oldsters skin, but yet he played right into it. Bragging about his vintage Mercedes and his Porsche (if I was poor and struggling and on the show it wouldn't make a whit of difference to me whether his wife bought it or not, if he really despised what it stood for he could have sent it back) did not help his case. It only made them resent him. There's nothing wrong with having money, I'm sure he's worked hard, but there's no need to rub it into other's faces.

Cinnamongirl

Monday, October 29, 2001 - 12:52 pm Click here to edit this post
There is Nothing wrong with having money. I agree, but Carl did not bring up his money situation. Silas did, for one purpose only. Maybe the producers of this show should say before signing up people for the next one, If you make over 50thou, no need to apply, you obviously don't need the money. To me, what people make, have, worked hard for, should not come into play. Carl did not bring this up, Silas did. When Lindsey said her little speech at the end I wanted to throw up. What a stupid thing to say, Carl doesn't need the money. Damn, half the people there don't need the money, what does that have to do with the game. No one changed their votes over it. I have no favs yet, so it made absolutely no difference to me which one of them got voted out, I just think the $$ shouldn't have been an issue

Jeep

Monday, October 29, 2001 - 01:07 pm Click here to edit this post
"If you make over 50thou, no need to apply, you obviously don't need the money."

I don't think this could be used as a valid statement. Making 50 thou or more is not a guarantee that you don't need the money. You could be in debt for a failed business (very possible after 9/11/01) or medical bills not covered by insurance. Even though I don't believe this was the case with Carl, the amount of your income should not be a factor. It has nothing to do with who plays the game best. And remember: IT'S JUST A GAME!

Crazydog

Monday, October 29, 2001 - 01:18 pm Click here to edit this post
Cinnamon, I recognize that it was Silas brought up the whole money thing with Carl, but Carl could have kept quiet or said something else rather than going on about his cars. Part of playing the game is realizing when to shut up. I agree that money should not have any factor on who plays the best and deserves it the most. And as far as Lindsey's comment, I disagree. Look at where she is coming from, she is just getting started on her own and she sees a very successful and rich man. It is a game, and a game for money, and in the context of the game I don't see anything wrong with what she said. The young 4 needed to vote someone out, and of the old 4, from what we saw, the one in the least need of money was Carl. Remember that Gretchen on Survivor I said a very similar thing about Joel when she voted him out - she mentioned his chauvinistic behavior but then she added that he didn't seem to need the money. Carl was a condescending a$$ who didn't need the money. That's why he got sent home.

Cinnamongirl

Monday, October 29, 2001 - 01:33 pm Click here to edit this post
LOL...I was just being sarcastic Jeep. :)

I personaly thought Lindseys remark was immature at best. I'm closer to her age than Carls, and I found it, well, so wrong. IMHO....

Muse

Monday, October 29, 2001 - 02:45 pm Click here to edit this post
The Generation X-ers have also commented on other things Carl owns (big, expensive home with a pool, hot tub, etc) in one of the Survivor Insider clips. I don't think Silas was always behind Carl mentioning the nice things that he owns. Silas might have pushed the issue, but clearly it was irritating the others already. I don't think it's wrong of Carl to want to win despite having plenty of money already (and really, I don't think being wealthy should have cost him a chance at the game), but maybe he was bragging a lot. Hard to tell. :)

Cinnamongirl

Monday, October 29, 2001 - 03:19 pm Click here to edit this post
Yep muse, you're right. It is really hard to tell. It all comes down to editing. What they WANT us to see.
I just hate seeing that "money/rich card" being used. I always think back to BB1 and Eddie "needing the money more". I don't know, it just doesn't seem right or fair, but thats reality tv for you, I must remember that.

Thebisexualview

Monday, October 29, 2001 - 03:38 pm Click here to edit this post
Mallrats said that they were only doing the money crap and necklaces to piss the oldies off.

It worked apparently cause it still irks Carl.

Chippy

Monday, October 29, 2001 - 07:07 pm Click here to edit this post
Exactly thebisexualview. They admitted it. Silas egged Carl on. Carl tried to make light of it. That's what I saw. And, really, why does that matter? It's about outplaying and outwitting the others in the game.

Cinnamongirl, I was a little more than nauseated myself with Lindsey's plea to stay. Lame and tired and typical of Lindsey from day one.

BB2 played the money card too. Remember how Prince Hardy was gonna make a winner out of the poor little waitress. They spent hours discussing who needed the money, who didn't want the money, and who wasn't playing for the money. If the truth be told, they all want the money. I know I sure as hell would.

I'm having a party at my house when Lindsey is booted. You're all invited.