Archive through November 11, 2001

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Spunky

Friday, November 09, 2001 - 11:53 am Click here to edit this post
I think the three ones who left Boran got a bad deal. They ended up with a bunch of brats who are clearly lazy.

The Boran, without Silas, seem to be a more organized and harmonious group that the S tribe.

Kitt

Friday, November 09, 2001 - 11:57 am Click here to edit this post
Yes, I agree. I feel really bad for Lex and co., they either have to rebuild what for them is a second camp, or suffer and weaken. Interesting they liked Brandon best of the three already at the camp, he was shown in a bad light before, but he seemed more clued up in last night's episode.

Realtvfan

Friday, November 09, 2001 - 12:01 pm Click here to edit this post
On the Survivor Insider, Lex and Tom seem happy to be the the "pleasant folks" of the old Samburu. Lex and Tom are happy that they are not with Frank, as the Sambrats laid it on heavy about Frank the "butt-hole".

Now what Tom and Lex did not see as the humor of the moment is that Tom and Lex were down at the water hole working BY THEMSELVES when they were saying this. I don't think Tom and Lex yet understood the phrase "consider the source before passing judgement on its accuracy".

Tom and Lex are very likely to be as shocked as the Sambrats when they see that Silas is gone at the next RC.

I just hope CBS will show us the expressions on the new Samburu's faces.

Suvfanlisa

Friday, November 09, 2001 - 12:06 pm Click here to edit this post
That would be so cool Real. I hope that Boran lets them know the kids are full of it when/if they merge.

Kep421

Friday, November 09, 2001 - 12:09 pm Click here to edit this post
I think Samburu got the best bargain.

Boran lost three members that were assets to the tribe. They gained two potential assets (hard workers, team players) and one negative member (non team player, delusional demi-god). Subtract one point for Boran because they ended up with less than they had.

Samburu lost two members that were assets and one delusional demi-god who fractured the tribe to begin with. They gained three potential assets. Add one point to Samburu because they ended up with more than hey had.

I like Frank and haven't seen much of Theresa, but Lex, Kelly and Tom brought more to Boran than Silas, Frank and Theresa brought to Boran.

JMOH...

Judy

Friday, November 09, 2001 - 12:11 pm Click here to edit this post
Lex was putting a positve spin on it by saying that yes- we have to do a lot more work now but at least the company is pleasant.
He felt bad for Ethan & Mamakim because he considers Silas, Clarence & Frank to be a-holes.
Also he was very happy to have FOOD which Samburu had more of at the time of the swap.
He said that having popcorn with olive oil and pepper was like heaven.
Tom says that Lindsey is flighty and that all three of em need to realize that they have to get up when it's cool in the morning and get some work done. I agree Tom- that's what Frank tried LOL

Lex & Tom agree that they are really weaker that the new Boran - because they have Clarence, Silas & Ethan.
I need to check one of the clips again because I think I heard Tom say they have 4 women in their new tribe. LOL

Goatgirl

Friday, November 09, 2001 - 12:20 pm Click here to edit this post
True it seems the ex-Boranians got the short end of the stick on this one. I see some pluses for them though: no more having to pull guard duty agains the lions who were stalking Boran's camp but seem to have been ignoring Samburu. (maybe the lions visited one day while the older folks were out gathering water and wood and the lions saw the kids sleeping and thought they were already dead?) Also I would think it makes it easier come voting time next time they face Tribal Council.

Suvfanlisa

Friday, November 09, 2001 - 12:23 pm Click here to edit this post
The 3 Samburu team members left are lazy good for nothings, so yeah Samburu got the best bargin, but they still don't have as much as Boran. The 3 Boran members left are hard working (yeah one is dishonest and another is a weaker member) and not whiny. The ones that got the best bargain are Frank and T.

Johnlvs2run

Friday, November 09, 2001 - 03:59 pm Click here to edit this post
Judy... right, but boran is getting rid of silas and clarence, two of
their strongest members. while keeping kim and teresa, the two weakest.

frank and teresa lucked out but boran is suffering now.

samburu is by far the best.
they have much more energy and are closer together.

i hope they stay separate and don't merge for awhile.
that would be most interesting.

another comment for those who dump on the young ones...
mamakim and teresa don't do anything when they "are" working!

it is totally amazing to me that boran would keep them.

Yuhuru

Friday, November 09, 2001 - 04:23 pm Click here to edit this post
John, it shouldn't surprise you that they're keeping them. Boran is now being controlled by two agendas: Ethan's and The Elders'. I can't believe that Boran would purposely lose a challenge to get rid of Silas and be a man down. Frank and T want to solidify their positions before the merge. Ethan is a chump and is totally afraid of Clarence, so I'm totally sure they'll get rid of Clarence next. Ethan is totally milking the food thing. I'm sick of it. They'll keep mamakim and T til the merge when they'll get rid of them. They won't need their votes anymore & I'm sure they won't be winning immunity. I think I would have kept a sick Jessie over mamakim. With the exception of the acrylic paints she has been useless (but she seems like a sweet lady) They're going to fool around and someone like Frank will when this whole thing. I like him better than the mallrats, but that's his claim to fame being better than the mallrats. O.K. enough rambling.

Llkoolaid

Friday, November 09, 2001 - 04:36 pm Click here to edit this post
It seems so obvious to me, Boran got the best deal here, we know that Boran threw the challenge, why? I think there are a few reasons for that. Ethan and Mamakim know that they have the allegiance of Lex, Tom and Kelly when a merge comes, when Frank and Theresa approached them and told them what Silas and the younger Samburu were like, they welcomed them into their alliance and decided to lose immunity because by doing so they could protect their allies who had to go to Samburu, and they had control of Boran and could get rid of Silas and Clarence. They now know that Lindsay has 4 votes against her and if they can't get that information to Lex, Tom or Kelly they will just lose again and vote Clarence off. When the merge comes it will be the 5 or 6 Boran and Frank and Theresa against the remaining mall rats . I expect then that the former Boran will then start to pick of the stronger players while they have the upper hand. I think Brandon is safe for a while because he will be no threat to win immunity and Lindsay will be gone first chance they get. Anyway my point is Boran got the better deal because they have total control right to the final 5.

Serate

Friday, November 09, 2001 - 06:03 pm Click here to edit this post
Everybody's talking about who got the better deal based on the coming merge. But IS there going to be a merge???????????

Serate

Friday, November 09, 2001 - 06:08 pm Click here to edit this post
And supposing there is NOT going to be a merge, which team is the better team? Not the mallrats that's for sure.

Squaredsc

Friday, November 09, 2001 - 06:30 pm Click here to edit this post
just to add a little twist, i read somewhere that the switch may not be permanent(sp). and if that's true it will be totally cool to watch cause when frank and t-bird go back they may be able to take control of samboohoo because their leader is gone.

also, the boran members now no that lindsey has the most votes. but i really don't think it would be smart to get rid of clarence before the merge (if there is a merge) because they will probably lose challenges without him. and im not just saying that cause his body is cut!

Lilliegirl

Friday, November 09, 2001 - 06:35 pm Click here to edit this post
Serate, Mark told them they would merge in 3 days. Did you watch the show.

Lilliegirl

Friday, November 09, 2001 - 06:36 pm Click here to edit this post
Sorry I meant to say Jeff.

Luvmom

Friday, November 09, 2001 - 07:03 pm Click here to edit this post
Lillie,
Jeff did not say they would merge in 3 days...........he said that they've made alot of assumptions,one being the merge...........something to that effect

Smileeys

Friday, November 09, 2001 - 07:18 pm Click here to edit this post
Which I am pretty sure Jeff said was supposed to happen in three days if the assumption is correct - so both of you are "right" :)

Kep421

Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 05:11 am Click here to edit this post
No, guys. Jeff said they made a lot of assumptions. One of the assumptions was that the merge would be in 3 days.

That tells me that they should NOT assume the merge will be in three days. 'Cause I don't think it will be.

I think they will merge at a lower number....

Spunky

Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 09:36 am Click here to edit this post
It seems to me just a boring combination. Boran has two older women and some young men and the S tribe has some old men with a bunch of young women. That nice girl who used to be with Boran looked good with Ethan and the others, now she is among those other girls and she's lost in the shuffle...

I hope they keep the shuffle going and maybe we get a more exciting combination...

Tntitanfan

Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 11:31 am Click here to edit this post
Spunky, do we watch the same show? First you wondered what Silas did that was wrong - like several things! Now you think Kelly is going to get lost in the brat pack - I don't think so! And the scheming to lose the IC by Boran was awesome! Mamakim came into her own that time! I think this move is going to give us a much more interesting combination than watching SamBooBoo cannibalize the elders of the tribe!

Dogdoc

Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 01:00 pm Click here to edit this post
Question Was it Kelly or Lindsey that got mad at Silas for getting in their way during the goat herding challenge? They sure turned on him quickly. Did anybody see it to judge if it was done on purpose? Thanks.

Beachcat

Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 08:04 pm Click here to edit this post
Realtvfan, I don't know if you coined the phrase sambrats, but I love it and it fits perfectly. Gosh, what a bunch of loser spoiled babies. At least Brandon showed he hasn't lost total contact to realty.
No doubt in my mind -- Boran got the best deal. Strength isn't everything. I feel really sorry for Tom, Les, and Kelly. I'd be furious in their shoes. The sambrats are not on vacation here. I just don't get why Brandon, Lindsay and non-entity think it's so cool to lay around and let other people work for them. I guess there will always be those who think sadismus and taking advantage of others is o.k. and that's where the sambrats are, imho. Also, Linsay's bitching about the votes showed the worst sportsmanship possible, if it's "all because of the game" as they all continually like to say.

Johnlvs2run

Sunday, November 11, 2001 - 08:04 am Click here to edit this post
Yuhuru and Llkoolaid... yes that makes sense.

Boron is getting rid of the strongest ones, Silas and Clarence.
And keeping the weak ones, Frank, Teresa, and MamaKim,
to improve their chances when it merges.
I think that is not a good strategy, especially in that
kind of an environment. Because then the weak ones who are
left will get rid of you, because you are stronger than them.

Sambaru is the strongest now and will keep getting stronger.
Unless they all merge very soon, or else switch back again.

I consider Lex the strongest because he gets along well
and is successful at getting everyone working together.

Spunky

Sunday, November 11, 2001 - 09:14 am Click here to edit this post
Well, someone does agree with me. Boran is getting weaker, with two older women and three guys one of them already targeted (Clarence).
If they don't merge soon or re-shuffle it's going to be tough for Boran to survive. The S tribe is already stronger in numbers and this could help them during challenges where the more the better.

I confess I can't get a sense of what everyone is like in S3. In Australia it seemed easier for me to figure them out, each one of them stood out right away for me, especially Michael, Jerry and Colby. This Africa bunch seem to ....blend with the landscape, which is bare and boring..