How should Teresa handle Lex?
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Fruitbat | Monday, December 03, 2001 - 06:34 am   Ahhhhhhhhh Lance's dark side rears it's feisty little head. That a boy! now go get Frank, that miserable little introvert.  |
Lancecrossfire | Monday, December 03, 2001 - 10:56 am   My dark side Bat?? Hey, watch those introvert comments! He may not be miserable. |
Urgrace | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 09:14 am   Watch out! If a diehard Lex fan enters, you will get your head cut off! |
Ophiliasgrandma | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 09:42 am   I now think Teresa should, as she did last night, keep smiling, nodding and just generally yanking his chain. That poor schmuck, Lex, doesn't have a clue. Yeah, as long as he keeps trusting his 'gut feeling' he's a soon-to-be goner. |
Fruitbat | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 09:43 am   Well, I am jumping on the baseball bat for Lex bandwagon. I still don't like Frank and it has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with his being an introvert. To quote Dr. Phil....he does not strike me as a warm place to fall at the end of the day. He appears.......again 'appears' to be very closed (different from introvert) and cold. Could be a very fine person but not compelling for *me*. Now back to the subject of this thread. I really hope T will not have to deal with Lex again. Should he continue to seek the rat, fearing he made a mistake, I would hope KimJ, Ethan, or Tom would pull him aside and request he drop the subject and move on. What is done is done. |
Wink | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 09:51 am   Ms. Bat I like the baseball bat for Lex scenario. His ego needs to be taken down a few notches. The motto of "outsmart, outwit, outlast" isn't going to work for him as long as he walks around with such an inflated opinion of himself. Re Frank. It's the quiet ones you have to watch. Maybe he saves all his "warm fuzzies" for the end of the day. I agree with O's grandma on Theresa. Say nothing, play smart. |
Rabbit | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 10:19 am   Excuse me but this is my area of expertise. Wait until Lex falls asleep. Tape 2 small tree limbs to his head. Stealthily crawl over to Frank and place a club or spear in his hand (not a bow and arrow). Now shake Frank awake. Shout "Bambi" in his ear and point him towards Lex. Voila!! |
Fruitbat | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 11:24 am   Rofl Rabbit! |
Wink | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 04:07 pm   LOL Rabbit. Nice plot variation. |
Car54 | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 04:11 pm   From the preview last night, it looks like Lex begins to realize Brandon is betraying him pretty quickly after TC. I think Lex will have more to worry about than Teresa's vote soon! |
Hippyt | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 04:45 pm   Car,are you talking about him saying"I have to make a move to save our asses,and now I regret it?" I was wondering if that was because of Brandon,OR because he finds out Theresa is the one who voted for him,and he booted his team member for no reason. |
Moondance | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 04:52 pm   From the chat Car posted Kelly said when she went back to sit down after voting (not shown on camera) she looked at Lex straight in the eye and said there, this time I did vote for... so I think it means he realizes Kelly wasn't the one who voted for him. |
Car54 | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 05:10 pm   Kelly says Teresa never tells- |
Gina8642 | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 05:45 pm   Before ep.8 I never imagined Teresa would play it the way she did. I figured alot of the folks on here were right, she'd be a straight arrow. She tell him the truth, and give her reasons. I figured if Lex couldn't respect that, it would reflect poorly on him later in the game. Instead she said zip. Lex kinda led her into taking this tack (sp?). He never even asked her, he just told her he new she was the real deal, and knew she didn't do it. What was she supposed to say to that? "No, Lex. I am a lousey person."? So she kept quiet, felt out the situation and decided to stay that way. I am amazed she has not betrayed her guilt. I think she is doing great. Letting us on camera know she doesn't feel good about it. (Gives her a better future after the game.) But sticks to her guns. She is playing hard. If Brandon pulls the switcharoo some are claiming, she could go far as a key member of the Samburu. Not sure that will happen, but she just upped her strategic stock. And besides, every vote a player gets through is really an amazing accomplishment. I think we (I) forget that sometimes. |
Hippyt | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 08:14 pm   Oooh,I need to go watch my tape again,Moon! I know she did sign her vote,which is pretty funny. |
Smileeys | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 10:58 pm   I think Teresa should keep it completely to herself that she voted for Lex. Actually, this gave me an idea for if I am ever on Survivor - I might throw in a vote for someone unexpected and swear I voted with the rest of the group Oh, that would be bad! |
Spunky | Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 08:52 am   I can't believe it wasn't obvious to everyone and especially to Lex that Theresa was the one who voted for him. Sorry, the guy is no Richard, at least Richard was smart! |
Smileeys | Sunday, December 09, 2001 - 03:08 am   I agree that Lex is not too smart. He let his emotions rule this vote and it was selfish, too,- not what was good for the tribe even though he tried to present it that way. I think his luxury item must have been some kind of mind control device to have so many seemingly 'okay" people follow him. He doesn't seem to me to be a very charismatic person but he's got something that has hooked the others. |
Car54 | Sunday, December 09, 2001 - 04:17 am   Actually Smileeys, if you read the transcript of this week's insider, he and Ethan discussed the plan for booting Kelly in detail on the way to the reward challenge. In last week's he had the same sort of conversation with Tom the week before about Clarence. I really think that most of their choices are made by L/E/T but that Lex has so little impulse control, he can't help being out front. And politically, it is very smart for Tom and Ethan to let that happen... let Lex look like the decision maker/leader. Then he draws any resentment or opposing votes. Lex seems to be a very type A personality. Very high energy- I was thinking when he was asked to join Ethan at the village, Ethan was the winner, but Lex kind of took over- he did most of the talking, was sort of the narrator to the camera- and Ethan let him. |
Car54 | Sunday, December 09, 2001 - 04:23 am   oops, doublepost |
Smileeys | Sunday, December 09, 2001 - 01:00 pm   I read it last night after I posted. It is hard not being able to see the nonverbal to make a "judgement" about Ethan's part but I had said on another thread that he had "won" me over on this last show and I could say I finally had a favorite but now I don't know. It's not even that I liked Kelly really. I think it is more interesting on the one hand that they are voting out their own tribe but on the other I find it disturbing, distateful, unsettling, odd, - something along those lines. |
Car54 | Sunday, December 09, 2001 - 01:35 pm   Smileeys, I can see your point, but really isn't that what the game is about? IMHO none of this means anything about who these people really are. At some point EVERYBODY is targetted and voted for- this group has just started to cannibalize their own team a little earlier than some years. They are a bunch of people out in the middle of nowhere trying to win a million dollars by getting each of the other players voted off. I have thought about the show way too much and can you honestly see how anyone who is totally honest, true to themselves, straightforward, could win and be the last one standing? They have to band together and make selfish decisions. From what Kelly and Clarence said, this was going on 24-7. Just because Lex acted like a jerk for a couple of weeks under extreme pressure doesnt really mean anything about who he is. I bet he is a perfectly nice man, decent husband and father- lots of fun in real life. I bet he feels pretty embarrassed right now (unless he won the million dollars- then he probably doesn't care!) Seems like Ethan and Tom are pretty decent guys, but to get this far in the game there is no way they didn't get their hands a little dirty. If they can be part of an alliance but still mostly appear as if someone else makes all the deciscions that is pretty smart playing. No question Ethan is a strong competitor and nice guy- but if he didn't take part in an alliance and just focussed on winning competitions and being nice- he would be such a target. We know he is more savvy than that- he and Kimj and Teresa clearly decided to throw the IC to oust Silas during the Twist. It is kind of unsettling- sort of like the change in this year's Big Brother where they nominated and voted each other out instead of the public voting. No way not to see things we'd rather not see in that kind of game. |
Moondance | Sunday, December 09, 2001 - 01:37 pm   Great post Car! |
Misslibra | Sunday, December 09, 2001 - 03:20 pm   I haven't finished reading this whole thread, couldn't stop laughing, but Rabbit I like your comments. LOL In fact right now I'm doing a visual and can't stop laughing!! LOL Your such a good, smart, whitty, intelligent, funny Rabbit. I don't know what we would do if we didn't have your humor around here, I love it, and keep up the good work. Now what was the topic again... oh yes King Lex and Sweet Teresa. I'm glad she didn't show him her cards, and if he wasn't smart enough to figure out who voted for him, after watching Clarence and T make that deal right in front of his face, to bad for him. Yea Fruitbat what Lance said about Frank. Lance you sure are brave, you know Fruitbat have that tampon gun on stand by. I'll just hide behind you when she starts shooting.  |
Gina8642 | Sunday, December 09, 2001 - 07:13 pm   Is Lex a type A personallity and more "out there" with his decisions? Or is the Mark B. editing just showing his conversations to the exclusion of everyone else. We've seen zero allience/voting talk from the elder Kim. But clearly she is participating. Kelly even said it was her conversation with the older Kim at the water tank that lead her to talk with Lex the second time about that vote. Mark B. only showed the Lex convo. Not the elder Kim one. It is possible he is doing similiar editing with Ethan and Tom. I sure don't like Lex right now, but maybe if I'd been shown the scheming of Ethan, Tom, and the elder Kim, I wouldn't like them either. |
Car54 | Monday, December 10, 2001 - 01:11 am   Excellent point, Gina. Lex does seem to have a problem with self control or thinking things through completely before he acts- he kind of takes over...but who knows how he is in real life. We know he us under physical and mental pressure here, and sick to boot, from the news stories. I can't imagine how anyone could avoid scheming and plotting in this game and still be there- so you are right there. On the Insider, we have seen several of these conversations that show that Lex did not make the decisions alone- interesting that we are given these snips if we pay, but not on the show. There are a lot of people who have to like the players to like the show... I reserve judgement- they are there under extraordinary circumstances- and I like the game- seeing how they react to the game- for me it really doesn't have too much to do with liking them as individuals- it is liking how they play the game. |
Car54 | Monday, December 10, 2001 - 03:21 pm   Tom was very concerned that they were doing the right thing in targeting Kelly. What if Teresa told Tom that SHE was the Lex voter. How would Tom look at Lex then? Hmmmmm. |
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