Who is the Biggest Chicken
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Yuhuru | Friday, November 23, 2001 - 09:35 am   I think that Ethan and Lex are the biggest chickens. They have no self confidence. I hope Brandon beats them in every physical challenge. By the looks of them, it just might happen ...Can you tell I'm still bitter about Clarence? |
Serate | Friday, November 23, 2001 - 09:53 am   I think Brandon should be added to the Ethan & Lex chicken club. As soon as somebody gets voted out he has nothing to say but bad about them. |
Weinermr | Friday, November 23, 2001 - 10:32 am   Add Kelly to the list. She suddenly found her voice and opinions and they aren't such nice opinions. Alot more is going on there than we have been made aware of until last night. Watch out for that Kelly! |
Grooch | Friday, November 23, 2001 - 12:02 pm   Watch out for her to win?  |
Weinermr | Friday, November 23, 2001 - 12:39 pm   Perhaps Grooch, perhaps. I'm just pointing out that there are things going on in that Kelly-head of hers of which we were previously quite unaware.... |
Grooch | Friday, November 23, 2001 - 12:44 pm   Didn't her profile say that she is a man manipulator, or something like that? Seems everyone forgot about that. I think, for the game, she is a fierce competitor and will make the game very interesting. None of the other players would be aware of this trait of hers. It will be fun watching her. (I am sorry that Clarence left.) |
Fruitbat | Friday, November 23, 2001 - 12:51 pm   I am sorry that Clarence is gone too. Lance does not seem to be around right now but just in case.......take that gun away from my head Grooch! |
Spunky | Friday, November 23, 2001 - 01:02 pm   Lex will get his turn....nobody likes to be told what to do.... |
Resortgirl | Friday, November 23, 2001 - 02:03 pm   Sorry Yuhura but I have to strongly disagree. Both Ethan and Lex have shown they are strong competitors, never hear them whining or complaining. Brandon and (so sorry Lance) Clarence are both whiners! I need food, I need sleep, blah blah blah.... |
Grooch | Friday, November 23, 2001 - 05:56 pm   RG, I'm whining about that right now, and the funny thing is, is that I haven't been stuck in a camp in Africa w/ 9 other strangers for the past 3 weeks. You guys would all kick my *ss off the second you got the chance.  |
Yuhuru | Friday, November 23, 2001 - 09:32 pm   Resortgirl, there is a big difference between whiner and chicken. Whiner=complainer and chicken=scaredy-cat=fraidy-cat. It was much easier to get rid of Clarence than to actually compete with him. They would rather face Brandon in the competition. That's equivalent to the Yankees versus a little league team. How can you win with pride and dignity?? Great bragging rites "I voted off all of the tough competitors and beat a few old ladies and a very thin whiney man!" |
Moondance | Friday, November 23, 2001 - 09:38 pm   In a game like this ...'Survivor' it is about staying in the game so I don't think being afraid (chicken...scared) has anything to do with it... It's about staying in the game as long as possible so getting rid of competition is a very smart move. |
Car54 | Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 05:05 am   Exactly Moon! We all seem to be jumping on people because they don't do the NICE thing. That is not what this is about- it is getting everyone but yourself OFF and keeping yourself ON any way you can. I think some of the players need to understand that. The entire game is about using everything you have- your brain, your body, your influence to keep in the game- period. And ultimately it REALLY is about MONEY. And remember, the diary bits, are solicited by the crew. People are clearly being asked questions and encouraged, so it is not like they are just sitting around whining to each other. |
Resortgirl | Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 05:39 am   Point taken yuhuru, but I still don't see Lex or Ethan as "chickens" and I think Moon and Car explained it perfectly. It's a game of survival,all bets are off, ...outwit outplay outlast! |
Fruitbat | Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 06:23 am   I agree Moon and that also speaks to another criticism of the show that arrises from time to time. Some have said they are not really surviving because they are given food and have it too easy. It is about wits more than physical survival. |
Car54 | Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 06:44 am   I have seen several of the survivors from S1 and S2 say that this year's survivors had it harder because their movements are so restricted for safety. On the preview show on E, Kimmie, Joel and Jerri were talking about the fact that is helped them to deal with the stress to be able to go off to gather food or wood. This group has to go as a team or stay within the fence so they are together most all the time. Personally it would drive me absolutely nuts. |
Weinermr | Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 09:07 am   Not that the two shows are the same, but Survivor has become quite a bit like Big Brother, in that they are given food and water, etc., are forced to stay together and interact (almost) 24 hours/day, and they have to vote each other off one by one. And BB became more like Survivor last year when they took the voting off away from the viewers. |
Lancecrossfire | Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 01:56 pm   If it's true that it's not about being nice; that it's only about winning, and all bets are off, then no one here should have ever had any problems with Jerri, or Keith, Or Rich Hatch, or Susan, or any of them. If it really is only about doing what it takes to win, and everyone believes that, then there can't be any bad guys, as they all would just be trying to win. Yet most of the folks here jeered and complained about someone in each of the previous two Survivors (and this one too). (including me) I do feel that it matters not only what you do, but how you do it. I seem to not be along in this thought, or people wouldn't have complaints against anyone. |
Resortgirl | Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 02:43 pm   Lance, it may matter to US how it's done, but I doubt it really matters to THEM. They don't get to see the footage shot in private (what kelly really thinks about Lex or Frank) and we don't get to see 99% of what is really going on between the survivors. I didn't want Richard Hatch to win... not many did, but he played a damn good game. It's not about being well liked. If it were, Roger would have won last year. It just really bugs me how people gripe about strategies that are being played out that are not "nice"... We would all be doing those things IF we were smart enough to think of them. To win $1M... JMO!:-) |
Kep421 | Sunday, November 25, 2001 - 06:57 am   You know, I agree with both Lance and RG!!!! It is a game that is designed to make people lie and backstab, form alliances then break them, and generally do whatever will promote and advance them to the end where 1M$ awaits. And that's just fine because that's what makes this game so great to watch. I know that's why I watch Survivor. But I don't understand some of the meaness and nastiness that is coming out of a few of the people. Why would you make a nasty comment about someone to their face or on camera that in no way promotes your position in the tribe or advances you to a better alliance? It's ok to express your opinion about someone, but can't it be expressed in a way that doesn't trash another person on national TV? And why don't they all understand that EVERYONE is playing the game and what goes around, comes around? The bad sportsmanship exhibited by some of these players is just appalling... Think Clarence is a prime example of what I'm trying to say. He played the game, tried to make alliances, even went back on his word when it preserved his place in the tribe. He promoted himself and tried to minimize his mistakes, even though he made a real biggie at the end. And he did all of it without trashing anyone, or taking his elimination personally. I think that is what he was talking about when he said he kept his honor. He may not have been the best or smartest player to date, but he definately has been the best sport!!! |
Car54 | Sunday, November 25, 2001 - 10:01 am   Some of the former players have said that they kind of forget about the camera in the heat of things, or they don't realize how it will look to us. I also think it is very much encouraged by the producers. Remember BB1, where most of the players became so concerned about how they would look to the public they were sort of afraid to do anything. That would make for a pretty boring show. I think tho, that we have seen that people with good personal skills, whatever their morals or ethics do the best- Rich was not the nicest person, but he had great people skills, and Tina was a master of building relationships, and as best I remember never really trashed anyone on camera. If you watch Kelly, who has a degree in human behavior, she is not saying much publicly-she is very friendly and sociable with almost everyone- and if she doesn't like someone, she keeps it to herself in front of the person. She seems to be using the diary sessions to vent- and I wonder if she either doesn't care or doesn't realize how it appears. KimJ is also keeping her own counsel-she is more mature than Kelly, and is handling herself better in the diary sessions, but she is cooperative and friendly with everyone in the group scenes. This is probably the best strategy. |
Yuhuru | Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 02:04 pm   Lex gets the big chicken award. He's definitely motivated by fear. He's not nearly as smart as I thought he was. He's not a true competitor. People who lack confidence are easily persuaded. It didn't seem hard for Brandon to turn Lex against his own tribe mate. He should have known from his Samburu experience that Brandon is a snake in the grass. |
Lancecrossfire | Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 02:18 pm   Yuhuru, I concur on your evaluation of Lex as the biggest chicken. |
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