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Car54 | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 02:02 pm   Kelly is in chat right now. I found someone posting a summary of what she says- hope this is ok for me to copy here. Q: Kelly, are you mad at Lex for orchestrating the vote against you? A: You know what, no. I’m not mad at Lex. It’s just a game – everybody says it’s just a game, but it’s really important that you look at it like that, or else you end up building hostility and that hostility only hurts you. Forgiving and forgetting is really the only way that you can handle things post-Survivor. Q: Of all your tribemates, whom would you say you got along with the best? A: That’s hard to say… I really like everyone for different reasons. I loved Clarence – he was always making me laugh. Kim Johnson was my favorite – until she turned against me. Kim and Brandon were a lot of fun and even Frank’s great. I really like everyone. Q: Kelly, did you know anything was up with Brandon, that his allegiance had shifted? A: I had no idea that Brandon had switched over to Boran. You can tell from the look on my face at Tribal Council that I was shocked by the way the vote went down. Q: You seemed angry at tribal council. Is that because you knew how your own tribe members were going to vote? A: I wasn’t angry as much as frustrated. It’s hard to realize that the people you cared about distrust you and that you have no way to prove that you didn’t do anything to lose their trust. I was very hurt. Q: Were you surprised at Lex’s reaction to the one vote against him? A: It was only one vote and to be totally honest, I think that everyone else would have probably taken it in stride, but Lex is very fond of his position and I knew he wouldn’t want to see that position threatened. So, when I saw the vote I had a feeling something bad might happen. Q: Kelly, do you think Ethan picked Lex to go with him into town to prove his trust to him? A: Ethan and Lex have a very tight bond, but Ethan is also very fair. I think Ethan really would have picked whoever came in second. Q: What happened at camp while Lex and Ethan were at the reward challenge? A: You know what’s funny – while Lex and Ethan were at the reward challenge the Samburus all started to talk about pulling together. What’s really funny is Brandon was very instrumental in this discussion. He’s clearly a guy who’s playing both sides, but you know what – He’s still there, so who can criticize his strategy? Q: If you had your time back, would you have done anything differently? A: You know, I have to say I was pretty proud of the way I played the game. I didn’t tell the outright lies some people did, I had a great time and I had a lot of fun. Sure, I would have loved to have stayed around longer of course, but really there was nothing I could do. The way I see it – it was just bad luck. Q: Kelly, did you know that it was Teresa who had cast the second vote against Lex? A: I didn’t know who it was until right before I returned home. And when I found out, I was shocked. Theresa… who would’ve guessed? Q: Kelly, immediately after you were voted out, if you could have said one more thing to Lex after you were voted out – what would it be? A: You know what’s funny is that they didn’t show what I did say to Lex. I walked right back over to the sitting area, looked him in the eyes and said “This time I did vote for you.” – the look on his face was priceless. Q: Kelly, what are your true impressions of the Boran members now that you have watched the episodes on TV? A: Oh, I’m so excited to tell you! Diane’s just crazy but a lot of fun. Jessie’s great I wish she could have hung around more – I really enjoyed the time we spent together, that is when she wasn’t sick. Now on to the juicy stuff! Let’s see… Tom. Tom is very, very funny. He kept everyone laughing. Even a normal story told by Tom was really hilarious. Then we have Ethan. What’s funny about Ethan is that I was out there with him for a long time, but I never felt like I got to know him. He’s very guarded, but a good guy. Let’s see… who’s next? Clarence! Clarence is awesome! The things some people didn’t like about Clarence I grew to love. He could’ve cared less about playing the game of Survivor. He was who he was and I thought he was fun to have around. I don’t want to forget anybody… Let’s see… now we go to Lex. To be honest, Lex isn’t a bad guy. Until we switched over to Samburu, he was a lot of fun. Kind of happy go lucky if you can believe it. I think really when Lex started politicing the worst side of him came out. He was obviously very sensitive… almost to the point of paranoia. Unfortunately, it made him kind of unpleasant to be around, but, again, that’s just a small side of him. He’s not a bad guy. Finally, Kim Johnson… I have to be honest – she really let me down. Early on when she was losing challenges for us, I would have done anything to help her stay. I thought we had a really great bond, but apparently it was superficial if she would consent to vote against me that easily. Q: Do you really think Frank needs medication? A: No, no, no, no, no! I love Frank. I actually talked to him last night. Sure, he marches to the beat of a different drum and hey, maybe sometimes that means marching alone, but the guy is really loving. I can’t believe I thought he hated women. The mallrat alliance had me totally snowed as to its true nature. He’s a great guy. I’m rooting for him. Q: I was sorry to see you voted off Kelly. You were one of my picks to make the final four! Do you think that this survivor is more lacking in alliances and friendships than the previous two? It seems as though there is not a great deal of loyalty. A: You know what – you’re right. Trust is hard to come by out there, but really it’s not like we’re any different from the people on Survivor 1 & 2. But, having seen both seasons all sixteen of us knew how the game worked coming into it. Guards were up higher than they’ve ever been. Q: Kelly, has Lex apologized for making you the scapegoat? A: You know what, I’m glad you asked. No, he hasn’t and I don’t think he’s sorry, but you know what – I’m not asking for an apology. It’s a nasty game and there can only be one winner. He did what he felt was right at the time and that was it. If I were him, I’d be sorry, though. Q: Did Brandon ever get on your nerves? A: You know what, I wasn’t with Brandon for as long as some. I thought he was really entertaining. I didn’t think the whole voting against me thing was so cool, but other than that, the guy made me laugh. I didn’t mind being around him, but I had no idea he was so lazy! Q: Was there anything that you couldn’t believe didn’t make it on the air? A: Oh, so many things I can’t even go into it! I don’t know where to begin: funny things, sneaky, backstabbing things, alliances being broken… you really just see the tip of the iceburg. It was twenty-four drama and I loved every minute. Q: How do you feel being titled by some as the “snake” or “the manipulator” of this season’s cast? A: I think most people who watch the show would agree that I actually didn’t end up as being much of either one… at least I hope so. I played up the whole manipulator thing because I thought being controversial would help a kind of whimpy girl get on Survivor in the first place. Competing with people like Brandon, Lex and Teresa, I think it would be hard for me to earn the title of “The Manipulator”. |
Britchick | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 02:08 pm   Wow, thanks for posting this! There is so much juicy and fascinating information here. Everyone should read it. |
Kep421 | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 02:09 pm   Thank you Car, this is great!!! |
Lancecrossfire | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 02:17 pm   Thansk much for posting this Car. I'd like to be sure credit is given to the chat source--Car, was this from the CBS chat? |
Car54 | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 02:20 pm   Lance, I wasn't sure if this was allowed. No, the chat is still going on- they don't post it for days. Someone in the chat posted this summary over at the Survivor Sucks spoiler board. Thanks for telling me the proper way to do it. I haven't learned to link or I would have posted a link instead. |
Car54 | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 02:30 pm   Here is another transcript from the Votedoff board. SHost: Hi Kelly! Welcome and thanks for being here to chat with us today. SK: Hey everybody! Thanks for checking out my web chat- this is going to be fun! BeastieGirl: Kelly, are you mad at Lex for orchestrating the vote against you? SK: You know what no. I'm not mad at Lex. It's just a game -- everybody says it's just a game but it's really important that you look at it like that or else you end up building hostility and that hostility only hurts you. Forgiving and forgetting is really the only way that you can handle thing post-Survivor. choochoo: Kelly, why didn't you tell everyone you didn't vote for Lex before council? SK: Oh trust me...I did tell everyone I didn't vote for Lex. SK: You can only take that kind of stuff so far. If you protest too much everyone assumes you did it anyways. Getitright: Of all your tribemates, whom would you say you got along with best? SK: That's hard to say...I really like everyone for different reasons. I loved Clarence -- he was always making us laugh. Kim Johnson was my favorite -- until she turned again* (the rest was beyond the screen cap, don't know whether she said "against me" or "again" -- WMN) Kim and Brandon were a lot of fun and even Frank's great. I really like everybody. sweetheart: Kelly, did you know anything was up with Brandon, that his allegiance had shifted? SK: I had no idea that Brandon had switched over to Boran. You can tell from the look on my face at Tribal Council that I was shocked by the way the vote went down. hot_tamale_ringwald: You seemed angry at Tribal Council. Is that because you knew how your own tribe members were going to vote? SK: I wasn't angry as much as frustrated. Its hard to realize that the people you cared about distrust you and that you have no way to prove that you didn't do anything to lose their trust. I was very hurt. April: Was the physical or social aspect of the game more difficult? SK: I would say that the physical aspect especially in the beginning was much more difficult. Being as I'm not really an athlete I found the challenges to be incredibly tough but fun at the same time. Feeling good about my accomplishments in the challenges was great for me and made the experience more rewarding. glitterglow: Do you think Ethan picked Lex to go with him into town to prove his trust to him? SK: Ethan and Lex have a very tight bond but Ethan is also very fair. I think Ethan really would have picked whoever came in second. Trader_Loves_Mame: Do you think the editors portrayed you very well or not? SK: I have to give a big thank you to all the editors. They work really hard and I really believe they would never try to portray someone as a different person than they were in the game. However, who we are in the game is often very different than who we are in real life. They showed who I was when I was out there but that doesn't mean that person is the same person who's sitting here now. din2001: Were you surprised at Lex's reaction to the one vote against him? SK: It was only one vote and to be totally honest I think that everyone else would have probably taken it in stride but Lex is very fond of his position and I knew he wouldn't want to see that position threatened. So when I saw the vote I had a feeling something bad might happen. NewfieMichelle: If you had your time back, would you have done anything differently? SK: You know I have to say I was pretty proud of the way I played the game. I didn't tell the outright lies some people did, I had a a great time and I had a lot of fun. Sure, I would have loved to have stayed around longer of course but really there was nothing I could do. The way I see i* -- ** was just bad luck. (the asterisks appeared this way in the chat --WMN) BeastieGirl: What happened at camp while Lex and Ethan were at the reward challenge. SK: You know what's funny -- while Lex and Ethan were at the reward challenge the Samburus all started to talk about pulling together. What's really funny is Brandon was very instrument in this discussion. He's clearly a guy who's playing both sides but you know what -- he's still there so who can criticize* his strategy? (again, asterisk appeared in the chat -- WMN) KappaKeyGirl: What did the corn mush really taste like? SK: The corn mush was about as bland as bland can be. It didn't taste bad, it just didn't taste like anything. I can't complain, it was better than nothing but at the same time, you're not going to go out and see me buying it in stores. GKat: Kelly, what are your true impressions of the Boran members now that you have watched the episodes on TV? SK: Oh, I'm so excited to tell you! Diane's just crazy but a lot of fun. Jessie's great I wish she could have hung around more -- I really enjoyed the time we spent together, that is when she wasn't sick. Now on to the juicy stuff! Let's see...Tom. Tom is very, very funny. He kept everyone laughing. Even a normal story told by Tom was really hilarious. Then we have Ethan. What's funny about Ethan is that I was out there with him for a long time but I never felt like I got to know him. He's very guarded but a good guy. Let's see...who's next? Clarence! Clarence is awesome! The things some people didn't like about Clarence I grew to love. He could've cared less about playing the game of Survivor. He was who he was and I though he was fun to have around. I don't want to forget anybody... Let's see...now we go to Lex. To be honest, Lex isn't a bad guy. Until we switched over to Samburu he was a lot of fun. Kind of happy go lucky if you can believe it. I think really when Lex started politicking the worst side of him came out. He was obviously very sensitive...almost to the point of paranoia. Unfortunately it made him kind of unpleasant to be around but again, that's just a small side of him. He's not a bad guy. Finally Kim Johnson...I have to be honest -- she really let me down. Early on when she was losing challenges for us I would have done anything to help her stay. I though we had a really great bond but apparently it was superficial if she would consent to vote against me that easily. Nick: Kelly, in last week's IC - how come you were eliminated so early? SK: That bucket challenge thing was kind of flukey. I guess I must have moved so I was trying my hardest to stay still. It turned out great though, I got to eat all the food. Kevin: Would you have preferred one of the earlier locales to Africa? Maybe Australia? SK: You know what Australia had a lot of rain. Granted Africa was a tougher climate when it came to finding water, sleeping in the dirt, the heat, etc., but just watching those people in Australia - they didn't look like they were having nearly as much fun as we had. survivor_fanatic: Hey Kelly, how did it feel to get trampled by a large yellow rock in episode 3? SK: Actually it was the red rock. Samburu mowed me down and to be honest, it made me like the challenge more because when I was able to get up and keep running without missing a beat I really got to show them. But hearing them call out "Run over her Run her over" I can't say it made me too happy. BeastieGirl: Kelly, did you know that it was Teresa who had cast the second vote against Lex? SK: I didn't know who it was until right before I returned home. And when I found out I was shocked. T...who would've guessed? naisha: What is your most cherished memory of being part of Survivor Africa? SK: Really -- and this is going to sound cornball -- but I feel so privileged to have these 15 new people in my life...even Lex...just kidding. But seriously, its such a diverse group of really interesting, charismatic people. I just feel lucky to know them. Getitright: What did Ethan & Lex bring back for you personally from the African village? SK: They brought back cookies for everyone that we got to share. No one got anything personally but the cookies were great. I mean we got 33 cookies a piece! That was huge to us. Unfortunately, I didn't think I was getting kicked off so I left mine there. If I had known you can bet they would have been in my bag! April: Do you feel being at a disadvantage being female on the Boran tribe since they voted out 2 females right at the beginning of the show??? SK: Being a female on the Boran tribe in the beginning wasn't the disadvantage -- it was being weak. There's no way I could hold a candle top any of the guys physically and they thought we needed al our strength and they were right. herb: Kelly - greetings from Rome! I am your biggest fan! What is the most important thing about life that you learned on Survivor? SK: First of all, I lived in Rome for 6 months so ciao! Secondly, is this my dad? Anyways, HERB, its funny...my dad's name is Herbert and he's in Rome. If I learned anything from Survivor its that the greatest blessing in life is having a wonderful family. Come home safe. Nick: Kelly, immediately after you were voted out, if you could have said one more thing to Lex after you were voted out, what would it be? SK: You know what's funny is that they didn't show what I did say to lex. I walked right back over to the sitting area, looked him in the eye and said "This time I did vote for you" -- the look on his face was priceless. naisha: How did you prepare yourself for S? SK: I tried a bunch of different stuff. I worked out a ton, ate a ton of food to beef up, watched all the old Survivors again and again. Other than that, let's see...read a bunch of books on survival being that I knew nothing about it. Anything you can think of I probably did. I went fishing with a bamboo stick pole, tried to make fire -- granted, I couldn't get any of it to work but hey I was trying. AlbertoPena: Kelly, how did you feel when Linda beat you in the blood drinking contest? Did you think you were going to be voted out that night instead of Jessie? SK: I was bummed when Linda beat me- I thought I had that one in the bag. However, I never though I was going to go that night. They kind of played like it was close but I didn't even take my bag to Tribal Council. Jessie was really sick. Rodi: Kelly why did you drink the last few milliliters of Blood when you already knew that Linda had won immunity for Samburu? SK: It was really important to me to show my tribe that I would finish the challenge no matter what. Anyone can be a quitter. I felt the need to just get it done. Not to mention -- hey it was protein! I was starving. survivor_fanatic: Do you really think Frank needs medication? lol SK: No, no, no, no, no! I love Frank. I actually talked to him last night. Sure, he marches to the beat of a different drum and hey, maybe sometimes that means marching alone but the guy is really loving. I can't believe I thought he hated women. The mallrat alliance had me totally snowed as to its true nature. He's a great guy. I'm rooting for him. naisha: What was your most embarrassing moment in Africa? SK: Kelly: Oh no, let me think...some of the things I said and did that I thought were really cool or funny or neat at the time kinda look stupid on TV. For example, what I said about Frank. First of all, it was a joke. I never really though he needed prescription drugs. Secondly it just made me come off sounding whiny which I'm really not...or at least I don't like to think I am. din2001: I was sorry to see you voted off Kelly. You were one of my picks to make the Final Four. Do you think that this survivor is more lacking in alliances and friendships than the previous 2? It seems as though there is not a great deal of loyalty. SK: You know what -- you're right. Trust is hard to come by out there but really its not like we're any different from the people on Survivor 1 and 2. But having seen both seasons all sixteen of us knew how the game worked coming into it. Guards were up higher than they've ever been. Kelly_Fan: Kelly, has Lex apologized for making you the scapegoat? SK: You know what, I'm glad you asked. No, he hasn't and I don't think he's sorry but you know what - I'm not asking for an apology. Its a nasty game and there can only be one winner. He did what he felt was right at the time and that was it. If I were him I'd be sorry though. whistLer: Hi Kelly in your opinion who brought the most useful luxury item to Africa and who brought the least useful luxury item? SK: To be totally honest my luxury item was really, really useful. We had nothing to clean ourselves with so I'd always be crocheting these little towels. We used them to wash off ourselves and to clean the pots and pans with. Kim Johnson's luxury item, the paint, was also really, really useful. As for what was the least useful -- all the sentimental stuff can made a person feel good...Lex's baby shoes, Kim Powers' necklace, Teresa's necklace, Jessie's necklace, Linda's aromatherapy ball, none of that could be really used for anything. I guess if it makes you feel better having it by your side its useful to you. Oh! The deer antlers! I mean, if they got Frank pumped then cool, but they couldn't be used for much more than beating up Samburu's flag post thing. Tom's raccoon penis...well we won't even go there. Getitright: How do you feel being titled by some as the "snake" or "the manipulator" of this season's cast? SK: I think most people who watch the show would agree that I actually didn't end up of being much of either one...at least I hope so. I played up the whole manipulator thing because I thought being controversial would help a kind of whimpy girl get on Sr in the first place. Competing with people like Brandon, Lex and T I think it would be hard for me to earn the title of "The Manipulator". utsmith: Did Brandon ever get on your nerves? SK: You know what, I wasn't with Brandon for as long as some. I thought he was really entertaining. I didn't think the whole voting against me thing was so cool but other than that the guy made me laugh. I didn't mind being around him but I had no idea he was so lazy! kitblue: Was there anything that you couldn't believe didn't make it on the air? SK: Oh so many things I can't even go into it! I don't know where to being: funny things, sneaky, backstabbing things, alliances being broken...you really just see the top of the iceberg. IT was 24 hour drama and I loved every minute of it. Blade: Kelly knowing how hard it was in Africa would you do the show again? SK: I would do it again right now. Actually, if you want to send me a ticket -- I'm ready to leave. I had such a positive rewarding experience. I just feel so fortunate. Would I do it again? In a heartbeat. CanadianDude: Kelly, Your the best! Any tips for someone who wants to be on the show? SK: Yes! Be on the show...let's see...pick something about you that makes you unique and really stress it in your audition tape. You could try my strategy and kind of make up something unique if you want. Hey, it worked for me! But seriously I know a lot of people apply for Survivor and I'm assuming most take that outdoorsy angle when they pitch themselves. Do something different, go crazy, be yourself! Good luck! I'll be watching.... PsycoLex: Hi Kelly. Sorry to see you go out that way? What did you do after you were voted out? SK: First of all, right away - I ate like a pig! Then, the next day I went to this great lodge. It was pretty lonely because for three days I was by myself as essentially the fist person in the jury. I read "Gone With The Wind" and that is one long book. But then as more people stated to file off it actually got really fun. *laughs*. We had a great time in the jury. One funny thing that I didn't want to set myself up for anything but the win so I didn't pack any clothes for the jury. When you watch the show, check out what I wear. Its kind of funny. Silas_Rules: Hi Kelly, u were great on survivor! What are your plans now? SK: You know, I'd really love to go into entertainment. I always did drama in high school and college but the industry is so competitive I never actually thought about making it a profession. But if there's any chance I could I would LOVE to do that. I'm trying to keep a realistic perspective though, if nothing works out, hey, that's cool. I really want to go to graduate school in a few years. I'm definitely thinking about getting a Ph.D. We'll see, but no matter what the show taught me to try to have as much fun as possible...always. So, I'll be focusing on that. Survivor Host: Unfortunately, we're all out of time with Kelly today. Kelly, thanks so much for taking the time to chat with us today. Any final comments for the fans? SK: I just want to thank you. It means a lot that you guys would log on and chat. Really please stay tuned to the show even though I'm not actively participating in the game anymore, I'm a viewer like you are...let me tell you its one hell of a show! |
Joan | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 02:55 pm   Hmm....she's rooting for Frank, eh? Frank in the final 2 anyone? Based totally on my own reading WAY into things, I say Lex gets the boot before the final 2 and Frank is in the final 2. |
Moondance | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 02:58 pm   Thanks Car! |
Fruitbat | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 03:12 pm   Thanks Car, and I thought the same thing, Joan, but that would be way too much info. I think that was just a way to say she favors him especially after what she said. She knows who won! The comment sounds silly after thinking it through. |
Smrtass | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 05:14 pm   Fruit, she might not know who won. Remember in Survivor II the winner wasn't announced until they came back together at season's end. Does anyone know if they're doing it that way again? |
Gina8642 | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 05:20 pm   At this point I'd rather Frank win than Lex. |
Car54 | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 05:25 pm   If it is like past versions, Kelly would know down to the final 3. They get to 3 in the last episode, then the IC winner basically picks who they want to take to the finals. Kelly would know who is booted until then. Carl said there was a wrap party with all the cast and crew...so the entire cast may know more than that if they are observant and smart. If it is like S2, tho, the final 2 may know they are the F2, but THEY don't know how the jury voted. Mark Burnett was on the radio this week and was asked how the end would be done. He said he hadn't decided. Yeah right. |
Car54 | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 05:28 pm   oops double post |
Urgrace | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 07:49 pm   Thank you Car! Sometimes a chat is so hard to get into because it is so busy. Kelly's comments make me like her a little more than I did! Her comments about Lex don't make me change my mind about him though. |
Whoami | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 09:14 pm   Well, we know she reads the message boards. She called the kids the mallrat alliance! I had the same thought as some of you here when she said she was rooting for Frank (like she doesn't know the outcome for him yet). Kinda wierd about her coming down on KimJ turning against her. Sounded a bit Lexish to get mad at someone for voting against you. KimJ is/was in an alliance. She has to stick with it or get marked herself! |
Car54 | Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 01:18 am   Remember Clarence had the same opinion of Kimj- in one interview he compared her to the mother on the Sopranos, and in his chat he said she would do anything she had to to stay in the game. I think Kimj goes pretty far, tho- she is not on anyone's list of friends or ones they stay in touch with so far. |
Car54 | Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 02:31 am   Here is Kelly's interview with ET: ENTERTAINMENT TONIGHT: What's going on in your mind right now? KELLY GOLDSMITH: Just wait until you see the looks I give in the jury! It's fun. The first thing in my mind was surprise ... ET: You really seemed to be caught off-guard. What do you think went wrong? KELLY: What went wrong? I didn't know BRANDON was playing a different game. I'm still curious as to his reasoning, but it's cool. I just was surprised because he spent so much time lying. But this is the way he chose to play the game, and it surprised me. ET: The run-in with LEX … KELLY: Oh, there were so many. ET: The first one, where you are sort of having tea and he made you swear on your brother's life. What was that about? KELLY: Yeah, this is the darker side of Lex that has been fully exposed at this point. He wanted TERESA to swear on her kids; he wanted TOM to swear on his kids. I guess for him that's what signifies the truth. I was willing to do it, as I was telling the truth, but that's just taking it a bit far. ET: The water cooler with Lex at the end. What was going on there? Did you know it was over at that point? KELLY: Well, I had actually just spoken with KIM JOHNSON before that, because she and I were supposed to be together until the end. I was nuts about her as a person -- still am. But I could tell something was wrong. And when I approached her, I said, "Something's going on." She said, "There are three people, and I don't like the way they're playing the game, and you're one of them." And it really hurt my feelings, especially because what had I done wrong? Then I approached Lex because I had a feeling -- was it all of Boran that was against me? Were they united in this? I didn't know quite what was going on, and I still didn't want to vote against them. I really liked them, and I really wanted to stick with my alliance. But, you know, when Lex gave me that "Well, we'll see what happens" thing, I had to make my move. I had to align with Samburu and obviously that didn't work either, but I wasn't going to sit there and take it. ET: You had some not so nice things to say about Lex when you were voting him off. What are your thoughts now on Lex? Do you still feel so strongly? KELLY: No, Lex in real life is a cool guy; he's nice. The game just brought out a really bad side of him, especially at that point. ET: You called him an egomaniac early on and saw that he was trying to sniff out the rats, sniff out the snakes and all that. Did you ever consider trying to stop him? KELLY: When it came to Lex going crazy, I did absolutely try to stop him in the ways that I could. I tried to tell him it wasn't me; he wanted me to swear on my brother's life. I did it even though I was kind of uncomfortable with it. But there's only so much I can do. On Survivor, what really shoots you is desperation. When you just make it known, like "Please, don't vote for me. You know I didn't do it." That's the red light; that's letting everyone think it was you. ET: Watching yourself, how do you feel you were portrayed? Were you portrayed fairly, accurately? KELLY: I have to give a huge shout-out to the editors of the show. I think they do a fabulous job. Did I whine a little bit in my interviews? Sure. I was out in the sun in Africa, I was dirty - any person is going to drive you crazy after 24 days. And I deserved it. But hey, it's me. It's how I was. Maybe you'll get to know me. ET: Was there a lot of scheming going on that we didn't see? KELLY: There was so much. In this show, every day 10 alliances were made and broken. There is so much scheming, you wouldn't believe. And what's really funny is we're all in an area that is so small, so you're scheming about people that are 15 feet from you. It's just bizarre. ET: What did you learn about human behavior on Survivor? KELLY: I guess that people are unpredictable. And also that people will convince themselves of anything if they have a little bit of support behind it, and if it's going to get them further. ET: You mentioned one of your hobbies is manipulating men. Did that work for you out there? Did it work against you? KELLY: (laughs) The whole manipulating men thing was kind of a joke. I wish I could say I was some mad pimp who broke hearts right and left, but in reality, I'm kind of a teddy bear. I just wanted to get on the show. But don't tell anybody. (laughs) ET: You and Brandon were spotted hanging out in LA. Are you still friends even though he voted against you? KELLY: I am friends with everyone from the cast. I love Kim and Brandon, I love CLARENCE a lot. SILAS lives two blocks from me, I see him all the time. I talk to FRANK. I have to give a shout out to Frank, he's a great guy. He has a lot of love in his heart. |
Car54 | Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 02:40 am   Here is a transcript of Kelly's early show appearance. Kelly Cast Out Friday, Dec. 7, 2001 - 12:00 AM ET CBS Kelly Goldsmith Part I & Part II of interview with Kelly Goldsmith. NEW YORK --Thursday's installment of Survivor: Africa demonstrated that not even the truth can set you free in a game that thrives on deception. Under the mistaken idea that she had cast a vote against him in the previous tribal council, tattooed Lex led a coalition against fellow Boran tribe member Kelly. He had a "gut feeling" that she was the traitor. In reality, it was Teresa who had cast the vote. But, aided by swing vote Brandon, Kelly ultimately was the latest loser. Kelly told Early Show's Jane Clayson that she "was sad to leave. I had so much fun out there." But she admitted the last three days weren't so much fun. "It wasn't a blast. But really 21 out of the 24 days were awesome." Clayson said that she had expected a diatribe once Kelly had been voted off. Kelly admitted that she was shocked and surprised at getting voted off. "I was so shocked. I was very surprised. Because I really thought the four old Samburus were on my side and I thought we were going to ... even that upset me. I was sad that Boran didn't believe me and didn't believe the truth." Clayson wanted to know what happened. "There was a defector in the group, young Brandon," said Kelly. "But he's playing his own game and it's cool. No rules in Survivor." She went on to talk about Lex. "Lex. Grand master Lex. Yeah, he is a decent human being. I don't want to say anything negative about him. In reality, not reality TV, but in the real world he's a nice guy, good dad, whatnot, but the game does bring out his darker side. He gets that crazy, demonic look in his eye. The snake, cutting off its head. All that was a little creepy. Making me swear on my brother's life. I was kind of uncomfortable with that." She said she had spoken to him after viewing Thursday's broadcast. "I called him after because he's on the west coast so I saw the show first. And for some reason I thought he looked meaner. So I called him to tell him you look okay and everything's fine and no hard feelings, it's all a game." Clayson wanted to know if he had apologized. "No, he didn't apologize," Kelly said. "But, he doesn't have to. Just wanted to let him know that you know, I didn't have anything against him. "Why do you think he was so convinced that it was you?" Clayson asked. "To be totally honest, I don't really think he liked me from the beginning. And I don't know why. But that's the game of Survivor, different personality types, we're supposed to clash. Also, Brandon lied to him." She added, "They didn't air it, but Brandon stayed up all night, spoon-feeding this jargon that he heard me and that. I never said that thing about being a free agent. He just made it up. Kudos to Brandon for creative strategy, I guess. Whatever." Kelly said that switching tribes was sort of a turning point. "It really brought out - certainly with Lex, it really brought out a different side in him. And you know with alliances and all that getting switched up. It changed the game. But what a great twist, right? It was a great twist." She went on, "I'm the biggest Survivor fan, when crazy stuff happens, even though I ended up on the chopping block, drama like that is fabulous." Asked about her future, Kelly said, "I'm very excited about the whirlwind that's about to come. I can't wait. I just graduated from college and a day after graduation was my first Survivor interview. And since then it's just been crazy." Clayson wanted to know if "other survivors warn you about all this? Sort of prepare you for what's to come?" "No, not really," Kelly said. "I don't really know what happens next. But I'm trying to embrace unpredictability. I learned that in the game and I'm going to try to continue it on in my life." She said that the biggest surprise so far was getting on the game - and then getting kicked off. Kelly was asked if she knew who had won the game. "Maybe I do, maybe I don't." And she jokingly added that if she were to tell, CBS would take her firstborn child. She went on talk about some of the other castaways. "Kim Johnson is interesting because it didn't get much play in this episode. But she and I were very, very close. Even with the split. We did the hand signal thing and I still love this lady. She's a great lady. Very strong. Really inspirational. All the stuff she's done. She's 57. She's on Survivor. But it did bum me out a lot that she would not hear any of it when I came to her. Because when it was her head potentially on the chopping block, I really had her back. And that was the only reason I started making alliances with Clarence was to try to get her to stay. I love Clarence, too." Clayson noted that Johnson had said she was one of the three people that she liked least on the show. "That was the day I left," Kelly responded. "I went up to her and said, 'Kim, the whole time we've had an alliance.' It was supposed to be me and her until the end. I went up to her and I said, you know, 'I can tell something's wrong. Will you just let me know? You know, what are you thinking?' And she said three people and I don't like the way they're playing the game and you're one of them and I don't know who I'm going to vote for. Even until the bitter end I wasn't going to vote against Lex. I wasn't going to vote against anyone on old Boran because I was very true to my alliance. And I said forget that." Clayson wanted to hear about her strategy for playing the game. "Really, I played it like a numbers game. I will admit that it's my bad habit but we watch Survivor religiously in my family and analyze every episode to the point of ridiculousness and my strategy was really, if possible, the second you get there get in a five-person alliance and then within that a three-person alliance and obviously you'd be the coolest person and you'd be the winner. And then day two Lex approached me, Jonathan and Ethan about a four-person alliance. I was ecstatic. This is it, we're taking it to the end. I've got it made, got my alliance, yeah! And you know. Then we all know that didn't work out. But it's a people game." And finally, Kelly was asked, "What was the best moment if any, that you had participating in this game?" She didn't even pause. "Oh, this is easy. The best moment was the boulder challenge when we won. And I'll admit I wasn't the biggest pusher of the boulder, I was more of an over there guider of the boulder. But that was so much fun because Boran had been losing so much. Thought we were going into the merge 2-8. There were people falling. I was rolled over by the boulder and creamed. And then I heard Carl say keep going! Run her over! These people were mean. But I loved it. It was great for Boran. It really brought up our spirits." Spoken just like a true Survivor. |
Fruitbat | Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 04:07 am   She called Lex "nice" in real life. That is damning with faint praise. The tone of her responses about Lex, in the interview on the Early Show, were guarded and diplomatic. I got the clear impression that she does not think very highly of him. I don't believe that everyone does not know who won no matter how the final vote goes. They talk, they know. Alicia and Jeff admitted openly that they knew. As far as KimJ goes......she is playing the game. Hard to critize someone going for the win when that is what they all came to do. |
Whoami | Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 10:25 am   That makes me wonder if KimJ is in the final two. Kelly is guarded in talking about Lex (cause she knows he isn't going to win?), but openly talks KimJ down. Is it cause she made it to the final two, and Kelly is jealous/mad that she got there playing the way she did? |
Gina8642 | Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 10:46 am   First - Thank you Car - I hadn't seen that interview yet. Notice how she talked up Frank alot. I think she got to know him at some point, and it wasn't out here on the set. Does this mean Frank goes soon? |
Moondance | Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 11:33 am   I think so Gina... my take on it |
Grooch | Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 11:40 am   I was thinking she felt bad for all the bad mouthing she did about him (esp since she believed the Ssmbrats before getting to meet him) and she feels bad. I think she is just trying to do damage control. |
Moondance | Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 11:46 am   Well she was pretty diplomatic about all of them... I have a feeling with her making a deal about wanting him to go far is similar to Carl 'sharing' the bed with Teresa. Frank might go next week/soon. |
Fruitbat | Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 11:48 am   I take it as damage control too. And I believe that she and Frank spend some time together. I cannot see him winning. |
Yuhuru | Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 11:55 am   After reading these interviews, I understand even more why Kelly was disappointed with Mama Kim's vote against her. Mama Kim may be quiet, but her actions speak loud and clear. An alliance is an alliance. She either never really allied with Kelly or she's very cut throat. Kelly seems like a cool gal. I was sad to see her go. |
Fruitbat | Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 12:39 pm   I was VERY sorry to see Kelly go. I never have found KimJ compelling. Both she and Frank leave me cold. That could change at any point however. I used to like Lex. |
Lancecrossfire | Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 01:04 pm   Bat, I agree with you on Kim J, although it sounds like she may be the "wolf in sheep's clothing" type if her style is to appear innocent, yet act cutthroat. I was happy to see Kelly go, although not for the reason it happened. Maybe it ended up being a Karma thing. Frank doesn't leave me cold. He's just not real emotional on the outside. I'm sure he does happy dances on the inside though. As a competitor, I used to respect Lex. I don't any more. If a person can't take anything they dish out, they don't deserve to call themselves a true competitor. |
Urgrace | Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 02:32 pm   Previous Survivors from I and II were on E! just before the Thursday show, and said that when the people get to the merge their emotions start taking over. It seems that it is much harder at that point, because the players have been there for weeks and it begins to wear on them mentally. This changes the dynamics of the game, because the players can be unpredictable. We've seen that happen with Kimj, Brandon, Lex, and Kimp. |
Demented_Freak | Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 08:26 pm   her comments about Frank may just be that she realizes he never lied to her, which is something many others did. I am hoping Frank wins! thanks for posting the chats & transcripts. |
Snee | Sunday, December 09, 2001 - 12:48 am   jonathan? did i miss something? |
Tntitanfan | Sunday, December 09, 2001 - 06:48 am   Oh good, Snee! I thought it was just me coming loose at the seams!! |
Car54 | Monday, December 10, 2001 - 03:30 pm   Here is Kelly's interview with Entertainment Weekly. Kelly shares the dirt on Lex and Ethan. The former sorority girl explains where her alliance went wrong and who bears the brunt of her cast-off anger by Liane Bonin PLAYA PLAYER Kelly claimed to be the manipulator, but in the end, she lost She's a behavior analyst and a former sorority girl. Surely Kelly Goldsmith should have had known it was better to commit to a team than to play both sides. Regardless, you've got to admit you were sorry to see her go instead of that egomaniacal Lex during ''Survivor: Africa'''s first nail-biter of a tribal council. When EW.com called her and she picked up the phone saying, ''Loser No. 8 speaking'' we hated Lex even more. So how much do you hate Lex? You know what's funny? I don't hate him. It was the way he was running things that I was uncomfortable with. He went through this emotional transition when we got to Samburu. Before that he was a happy-go-lucky guy. The things he said about me were definitely cruel and unusual. Even when I said bad things about people, you could tell I was kidding. The scary thing about him was how serious he was. Have you spoken since you've been back from Africa? I called him last night, actually. Before I started speaking ill of him on TV we talked every once in a while. After the Thanksgiving episode I knew I was next, so I waited until the show aired to call him again. I called him last night because I wanted to tell him I had no ill will and it's just a game. He wasn't too excited to hear from me, so that was a quick conversation. Why didn't you try harder to convince Lex that you didn't cast the vote against him? Any sort of sign of desperation is just seen as a big red flag that gets you voted off. That's what killed Lindsey, and I didn't want to go out that way. I really wanted to stay, but I wasn't about to spend all day kissing up to him. So your primary anger is channeled toward Lex? Actually, Kim and I had the tightest bond there, and at one point I said, ''This is going bad for me. Can you help me out?'' She was very unsympathetic and completely left me in the dust. After a couple of days went by, I approached her right before tribal council. When her butt was on the line losing all those challenges, I would have done anything to help her stay. But she just said, ''There are three people in this game that I don't like how they're playing and you're one of them.'' What hurt even more is that I heard her talking to Lex, telling him our plans to go all the way and she was saying, ''That's Kelly's plan.'' Do you wish you had played differently? I don't. My initial strategy was to get into a five-person alliance. Lex approached me, Kim, Ethan, and Tom, and I was very happy with the way things were shaking down. I felt like I was friends with everybody. So you're cute and in an alliance with the dreamy Ethan. Why no tribal hook-up? Everyone loves Ethan and that's cool. He deserves it. But he's very quiet and reserved, which is a great strategy for playing the game. But I don't think that's strategy; I think that's who he is. He doesn't want to reveal a lot about himself. I refused to be under the radar, so it made it tough for us to chat. There's only so much you can talk about maize. What was up with Brandon voting for you over Lex? Brandon was really bitchy. Brandon and Lex had this weird love affair from the second they met. Just from an objective standpoint, it would have been better strategically to go with his four and me. I had no idea he voted against me for the longest time. It was definitely a surprising tactical move on his part. What was it like being the first member of the jury? We were up in this great lodge with awesome food -- not that I wouldn't have traded it all for a few more days in the game. I read ''Gone With the Wind'' the first three days. I bought a bunch of books for the plane and ended up reading them all in the lodge. What was up with your crocheting needles as a luxury item? They came in incredibly handy because I could make little towels. We didn't have anything to wash ourselves off with, and cleaning those pots and pans became very important because they were really gross. Did being a behavioral analyst help at all? Well, as I'm loser No. 8, I can't say it helped me that much. It did help me stay interested in the game because I'm fascinated by human interactions. From a strategic standpoint, I think I played like most people would. In your bio, it says one activity you enjoy is ''manipulating men.'' I put that in there, and it was supposed to be a joke. I played up this whole man-eating sorority thing to get on the show. I thought they'd think I'd get good ratings if I was a . But it was really more of an act than anything else. You played Abigail in your college production of ''The Crucible.'' Any plans to branch out into acting? I would love to get into entertainment. I'm living in Los Angeles now and I've been editing books. I've been calling myself a professional nerd. I've always liked acting and drama but it's so competitive, so I never pursued it. If nothing else, I'll go to graduate school in the next couple of years. Maybe Lindsey can help you with your career? I actually had a major ethical conflict. I saw her in a sushi restaurant but we're never supposed to talk to any of the survivors. I really wanted to talk to her about everything but what could I do? I stayed true to my CBS promise. |
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