Clarence made it again
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Clarence made it again
Mssilhouette | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 12:24 pm   Okay so now we see how Tom is. Sending someone a message for a second time is silly when Clarance really pulled for the team and did nothing wrong. Now its funny how when Kim tripped during the compeition Tom didn't have anything to say to her really bad. They were mad but no one chewed her out and no one sent her a message. Tom was fine with it. So this time around Clarence pulled all for the team and they still lost but he gets a message again? For what? The women on this team aren't exactly pulling their share but everyone is still harping about Clarence...c'mon now. I have no problem with the -isms because it's not all that damn subtle. Let us not forget Tom's speech at Tribal Council, he said Clarence proved himself and he was fine with him....but he still needed to send him a message, that being what? I do like how the Samburo team factions are going. It was really stupid of the guy to keep talking when they GenX girl walked by. C'mon they're out on safari...you could hear a zebra fart. Also I do like how the guy with the NY accent, doesn't trust that younger guy they brought in. (Yeah I don't know any names yet because it's mostly been about Boran) Overall if Boran doesn't pick up the slack and stop trying to get on Clarence so much they're gonna wind up being down to 2 people. |
Llkoolaid | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 01:36 pm   You mean Silas, Mssilouette, he is the younger guy they brought in, I don't trust him either, but I think he is just like Colby, I think he is going to stay with the stronger side of the team. He will play bothe sides like Colby did and look out for himself. I can't dislike him for that, that is just smart, also he is good to look at. |
Joan | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 01:42 pm   I don't know...Colby was very loyal. He played both sides but he was honest about it to the cameras at least. Silas seems like he is having a good time doing this and he doesn't seem to solid about who he is really for right now. I think he could shoot himself in the foot if he is not clear to the older group and soon. They already don't trust him totally but they know they need him. |
Llkoolaid | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 01:51 pm   I never saw Colby as loyal, especially at the first, he was playing on the young side and Tena was playing on the old side, they were only loyal to each other, they played everyone else. But I do agree that he better make it clear that he is on the older group side, they will use him for his strength but when they don't need him for numbers he will be gone after the merge just like Clarence, he better get tight with them now. Nobody likes a fence sitter so he could be in trouble. |
Joan | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 01:53 pm   That is really what I meant, he was very loyal to Tina even to the point of sacrificing the million dollars. And I agree, of all the older group, Silas will probably be used and tossed out unless he can prove himself. I think if he does that, Linda will be the first of them to go if need be. |
Llkoolaid | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 01:58 pm   Which one is Linda , I am not sure? Is she the one with the lighter hair? |
Crazydog | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 02:35 pm   Linda is the one with dark hair who was chosen to drink the blood in the chug-off and won. |
Meme9 | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 05:13 pm   I just have to put my two cents in, not that they're worth much but....Silas reminds me of Dr.Will Kirby. Or am I the only one that saw that sparkle in his eye. |
Car54 | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 06:08 pm   Goodness. I did my post above early this morning when I checked in before work. When I came back tonight, I see I may have started something I didn't intend. I really did not intend to say that I thought Tom is a racist. I know nothing about this man outside of what I have seen in 2 hours of a heavily edited tv program. I was trying to react to his ACTIONS in that program, and it is THAT- his attitude and statements about controlling Clarence and keeping him in line, that I have a problem with. Tom seems to me to be a good ole boy with a bigger than life personality. He has been very verbal and outspoken...much more than the other men in his tribe. I just want to be clear that I really could never make that kind of judgement about someone that I know nothing about. I guess that will teach me not to post without at least 2 cups of coffee in me |
Mssilhouette | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 06:23 pm   Car you didn't start anything and you weren't the only one with that impression. So don't think you started anything. It was bound to be discussed. Frankly someone has to define what "good ole boy" means cause I have problems with that term, since to me it semes like a nice way of saying someone is from the days when certain people of color didn't have rights. Also Car, I think we're all only reacting to what Tom's actions are. How can we react to anything but that? I don't think you posted anything wrong, just stated an opinion. No harm done ;) |
Tntitanfan | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 06:40 pm   Rachelinsc - Before we get too down on Southern men en masse,lets remember Kentucky Joe! I really admired that guy!! |
Llkoolaid | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 06:45 pm   Like I said before, Tom is no Roger, now that was a good man. As for Tom, I don't know what kind of man he is, I am just going on gut instinct because he reminds me of my brotherinlaw. I guess that's no fairer than how I see him judge other people. |
Llkoolaid | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 06:47 pm   Meme9, I noticed that twinkle, I didn't connect him with Will but now that you say it, I can see it. Hope so, that will make it fun. |
Twiggyish | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 07:10 pm   To me, Tom is a big mouth. I don't like him because he is vindictive. He isn't using strategy right now. |
Sunshinemiss | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 07:55 pm   Tom reminds me of my ex. He speaks before he thinks it out thoroughly, sometimes regrets it immediatley as it can give a wrongful image of how is (good hearted, just overly opinionated and arrogant) Seems less to do with where he is from than what mind-set one has. I am keeping an open mind for awhile.. I am not impressed with his words but he seems to be a hard worker, and I haven't seen enough to feel comfortable forming a definite opinion yet. |
Joan | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 08:21 pm   Car54, of course none of us know these people in real life, we are all aware of that. Our observations are based on what we see on TV or on the web. I don't think anyone is judging the cast as human beings, we are just viewers discussing a television show. They knew when they signed up that the show would be edited and people would probably sit around and discuss them. Hopefully we can do that without anyone getting too upset or anyone thinking we are passing judgement otherwise it is silly to even have a discussion board, no? Just add a "in my opinion from what I saw" to the end of all the posts. hehe |
Snee | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 10:25 pm   i've polled all the snees i know and here are the results: snees don't like tom. |
Abbynormal | Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 12:46 am   My very deep south opinion on Tom...he is a big ole butthole!! |
Car54 | Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 04:48 am   Thanks, ms sil. Joan, I see your point and understand it, but I guess I always think of how the person would feel. I am kind of a wimp that way... Racism is a really harsh word in my vocabulary, so just wanted to be clear!!! I am definitely not upset...I am saving that for the Guidos over at the Amazing Race. It is way too early in Survivor to be upset about anything, but I fully expect to get really bent out of shape as things develop!!! Abby, you for one are totally right...and we all have SEEN the big ole butthole!!!lol If I knew how to do the smiley thing, I would... thanks guys. |
Llkoolaid | Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 07:00 am   Car, someone just told me how to do the smiley's and things , just go to the top where it says clipart and the rest is easy |
Sawheel17 | Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 07:04 am   As for Boran, have they started any kind of alliance between theirselves? The only thing I've seen is the gals and the guys.They need to do something quick and Tom needs to quit sending messages.I was thinking maybe Tom keeps voting for Clarence, just in case it comes down to a tie between Clarence and hisself. I do see Clarence as the stronger one, physically anyway. I can't wait 'til they merge. I want to see what happens between Carl, Frank and Tom. That will be something. It will be like Richard and Rudyand Tom will be Sue, only he'll be on the other side. |
Car54 | Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 07:49 am   OOOOh Sawheel, that is an ugly picture... those three guys are bound to blow up !!! Way to much middle aged testosterone.... sounds like fun to me!!! |
Resortgirl | Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 08:13 am   I thought I read somewhere that they don't merge like the last two times? Was I just having another one of my weird Survivor dreams? |
Sawheel17 | Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 09:44 am   I think I read somewhere that they merge but will be in 3 groups, not sure if that is right or what it is all about. I think it was speculated that it would be like that to keep one alliance from picking off everyone in the other groups like the last two Survivors.But...it would be fun to see Carl, Frank and Tom together.I wander what kind of hand-shake they would have. |
Joan | Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 12:06 pm   Sawheel 17, that is really interesting! I never thought about voting for someone else to prevent a tie between you and them in the future. Hmm...very interesting indeed! Also...are they merging for sure? I have heard rumours of splitting into 3 tribes but how would that work with winning immunity? I think it would be an interesting idea to try to mix tribes up a bit to prevent the Ogakor picking of Kucha thing again but I just don't see how the logistics would work. |
Smileeys | Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 12:57 pm   Car54, I will add my - no need to feel bad and sorry that you did - comments. I was the one who said I thought he was being racist first and I haven't changed my mind although it is still open. I learned a long time ago, that just b/c someone is racist, sexist, etc, that it doesn't make them a bad person - they have other good qualities, too. I try to "educate" them and have had some success but some will never change their views. I don't just cut them out of my life b/c that is not all they are. Same with Tom - I am sure he has good and bad qualities and one bad quality is coming across as the way he treats people of a different sex and color than him. And if he reads this - I think that would be great! Noone has really bashed him in my opinion and maybe it would open his eyes to something he may not be totally aware of that he is doing or that it is not a good way to behave. Oh, and all this is not to say that I didn't see anything wrong with Clarence's actions but that Tom's reactions to Clarence's mess-up seems to go beyond those events. |
Tntitanfan | Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 01:58 pm   Moderator - Any chance we could get this guy's name spelled correctly? I keep waiting to see how much he has been "marked down" - yes, I know that is "clearance", but the same phonetically!! |
Gail | Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 02:12 pm   better? |
Rachelinsc | Monday, October 22, 2001 - 06:15 am   Tntitanfan, I am certainly NOT down on Southern men in general. I am appalled at the way they are portrayed on tv, and cast on reality shows. My point was that, in my experience, Southern men are intelligent, mannerly, open-minded and sexy. Most of the Southerners (particularly men) picked for the reality shows just do not exhibit these qualities. In my everyday dealings in South Carolina (working, shopping, movies, friends' homes, lake outings), I just do not encounter men like Tom or Kent. There are many more "Kentucky Joes" here than "Toms." That was my point. |
Tntitanfan | Monday, October 22, 2001 - 02:00 pm   Thanks for clearing that up, Rachel. I misunderstood your first message - and I agree!! |
Carolinakisses | Monday, October 22, 2001 - 02:01 pm   Sawheel17, I agree with you on Tom voting for Clarence for the second time. The more votes against someone else, the better the chance of them going instead of you in a tie breaker. |
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