Reassembling the Hut Scene - CHEAT??
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Reassembling the Hut Scene - CHEAT??
Whowhere | Friday, November 02, 2001 - 10:09 am   Call me (and my husband) crazy, but during the challenge of disassembling and reassembling the hut scene, did Jeff not say in the rules that until you have ALL the pieces in the circle no one can begin putting the pieces together? Samburu won the challenge, but it was clear to us that they were indeed putting the pieces together before all pieces were in the circle. Did anyone else see this??? Please help to shed some light on this for me..... |
Lauram | Friday, November 02, 2001 - 10:17 am   Actually Boran won the Challenge. |
Cinnamongirl | Friday, November 02, 2001 - 10:18 am   No, I wouldn't say you're crazy. I also thought something was very fishy, but wasn't it Boran that won? I thought that the architects were to only talk them thru, they were not to help/touch. I'm sure I was watching them put the fence together as their team went back for more. I didn't tape it, so I can't really say what happened for sure, since it was all going on so fast and I still don't know all the players |
Kep421 | Friday, November 02, 2001 - 10:18 am   Samburu did not win the challenge. It was for Immunity and Boran won. But your right, although I thought it was Boran. I did see them putting the fence pieces together while the hut top was being retrieved. I was praying: please, please do not let them be disqualified!!! Am I wrong, was it the Samburu tribe who broke the rules? Gee, I sure hope so. |
Whowhere | Friday, November 02, 2001 - 10:27 am   I apologize - I'm all confused. I didn't tape it either and am now regretting it. BUT, one of the teams was CLEARLY assembling their pieces before they were all in the circle. It was the team that was furthest from the camera (Boran?). The team closest to the camera (Samburu?) didn't seem to touch their pieces until they were all in the circle. Sorry for all the confusion, but I am glad that we're not the only ones who saw that. Thanks for the sanity check! |
Corabell | Friday, November 02, 2001 - 10:41 am   The only thing I remember about all being in the circle was to put the flag up. I thought they said the architects couldn't help assemble the house until the pieces were in the circle. I don't think all team members had to be in the circle for that to start. I even was thinking during the challenge that a weaker person should be running the small items up to the new spot while the 3 others carried the large items. |
Whowhere | Friday, November 02, 2001 - 10:51 am   When I said "until they were all in the circle" - I meant all pieces, not people. Again, sorry for the confusion. |
Realfan | Friday, November 02, 2001 - 11:02 am   Yes, Corabell has it right. The architects were allowed to start assembling anything once it had been placed in the circle. I know that Jeff gives much more detailed instructions to the teams than we hear, and probably answers questions. We get the mini version, not surprisingly. Boran definitely showed their smarts in moving the house first. They work as a TEAM, and it showed. BTW, Kim's slowness in the reward challenge made me INSANE. I'm her age, and I know I could have moved faster. She was being far too careful, and needed to blast through that course, even knowing she'd probably fall a few times. Instead of carefully approaching the net, do a dive roll! And DROP from the net, don't climb down. |
Mssilhouette | Friday, November 02, 2001 - 11:08 am   I think it was that the architects couldn't help them carry anything. He didn't say anything about them helping to build it once its in the circle. I also thought it was a bit fishy but I'm glad that Boran won. They were super smart about moving the heavy large objects first so they wouldn't run out of energy at the end. I was rooting for them all the way. This is about the most exciting Survivor yet. Kim on that reward challenge did drive me nuts as well. They were tied UNTIL she got there. But at least Boran showed they were a team and didn't berate her for the error. |
Crazydog | Friday, November 02, 2001 - 11:19 am   Kim is a nice woman, of course they wouldn't yell at her. No one is going to go up to someone, especially an older kind woman like Kim, and chew her out for falling down. They may not have berated her to her face but they certainly did to the cameras. Ethan more or less said she cost them the challenge and would be in danger of getting voted out, and said something about how he was glad he wasn't in her position. Clarence said you can try as hard as you can, but if you can't do it, you still lose (or something like that). Even good old Lex said that unfortunately, she can't cut it physically. I agree, Samburu should have moved the heavy walls first rather than waiting until the end. I also agree that this show was more exciting. Much more than pushing an Indiana Jones rock. I liked the reward obstacle challenge and the hut thing was interesting, although they could have done a better job explaining how many pieces there were, etc. and what they were (what were all those things in the wicker bowl looking thing - moreover, what was that thing? what was the thing Silas struggled to carry on his own). Reminded me a little bit of last years "dots" challenge - had no idea what was going on. |
Kep421 | Friday, November 02, 2001 - 12:47 pm   I think you are wrong Crazydog when you say that "No One" would yell at MamaKim for losing the challenge. If MamaKim had been on the Samboohoo tribe the mallrats would have berated her long and hard... I don't think the Boran members berated MamaKim on camera, they were just stating a fact, a fact that even MamaKim was aware of. They just didn't feel it was necessary to state it in front of MamaKim because they realized she was fully aware of her shortcomings. I'd bet my good, hard earned money that Queen Brandon and his court would not have been that sensitive if one of their members lost a challenge that badly. |
Tntitanfan | Friday, November 02, 2001 - 12:50 pm   I think if either of the teams had done anything wrong in reassembling the scene, they would have had to start over or something like that. Last week when Sambooboo missed going through the flags (twice!), they had to go back and do the course correctly. |
Crazydog | Friday, November 02, 2001 - 12:55 pm   Kep I agree with everything you say except that you should have said "Queen Brandon and HER court"! LOL |
Car54 | Friday, November 02, 2001 - 03:29 pm   Whowhere- during the challenge I was watching for this exact thing...I specifically thought it might be the reason for some sort of technical disqualification since Jeff made such a point of it. I kept watching the architects whenever they were on camera and... In fact, BOTH the architects on both teams started touching and moving stuff while the movers will still in transit...I really saw this- and I was surprised Jeff didn't say anything. <can you tell I am no good at games because I am so pissy about following the rules!!!> |
Joan | Friday, November 02, 2001 - 04:34 pm   Yes, my understanding of the challenge was that they were not allowed to start assembling anything until all pieces were in the new spot and I also got the impression that the architects were only to verbally help. Even so, I still think Boran would have won, they were just further ahead the whole time. |
Cathie | Friday, November 02, 2001 - 11:17 pm   I just watched the tape and Jeff said the architects could not touch the items until they were in the circle. He did not say that they had to wait until ALL the items were in the circle, just that they couldn't help get the items into the circle. Hope that clears it up... |
Aja | Friday, November 02, 2001 - 11:43 pm   That's how I understood the 'rules'. They just had to make sure everyone was done building and in the circle before their flag was raised. I was certain that Boran would win after seeing which items each team moved first. Samburu had little energy left to move the hut at the very end, but Boran went straight to the big/heavy item first. Oh, those kids! They're learning though(?) |
Joan | Saturday, November 03, 2001 - 12:14 am   I watched it again too Cathie and that is also what I heard. The rules were pretty much unclear IMO. He did not say "all" the items had to be in the circle just "the items" and he didn't say whether architects could touch the items or not. I am going to have to assume that there was more we didn't see that explained it and trust that there was no cheat since Jeff was standing right there watching. |
Blonde | Sunday, November 04, 2001 - 11:47 am   This was the one episode I did not tape this season, wouldn't you know. But I do remember Jeff reminding Boran about something that had to be done at the very end before they put up their flag. Either all the pieces had to be in place or all the people had to be inside the circle or something. Anyway, that was the catch. And I believe he reminded them so there would be a clear winner and not be some technicality that would have to be sorted out later. That's what I recall. Maybe someone who taped it would have a better idea of the specifics. |
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