Archive through November 03, 2001

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Judy

Thursday, November 01, 2001 - 06:50 pm Click here to edit this post
I think it is going to be a fundamental rule thing- nothing to do with something that happens to the tribes individually.
My guess?

They give each tribe the option of exchanging a certain amount or members with the other tribe.
That might be interesting....

Llkoolaid

Thursday, November 01, 2001 - 06:57 pm Click here to edit this post
They each have six , how about they have to send 3 off from each team, what would Samburu do? That would be great and it makes sense too, they said the part about friendships and aliances not mattering. This would be very interesting.

Car54

Thursday, November 01, 2001 - 07:06 pm Click here to edit this post
I could see Teresa, Frank and if they had to, maybe Kim P- she is flying way low.... but if the brats think Lindsay was sick or weak, they might trade HER in instead.

I think Boran has a bunch of stuff going on that we haven't seen... I think Kelly has some bonds with some of the men- she is seeming more secure..
If they let the tribes pick the ones who go, I would guess Kim J, Kelly, and Tom. Oh who knows... they might make the pick totally random---to break up any existing alliances.

Bracken

Thursday, November 01, 2001 - 07:08 pm Click here to edit this post
There were some rumors before the show aired (tv guide, I think) that they would not merge the tribes in the traditional way. There was mention of making three tribes. Perhaps they will split into three groups of four, rather than the rumor which said tribe split would be when there were nine contestants left, making three tribes of three.

I really like the exchange idea Judy, that would be far more intriguing than three tribes. I can barely keep up with who is who now, and having two Kims hasn't helped either. At least they didn't put them in the same tribe.

I hope they do trade tribe members. That would really throw a kink into the Samburu brats.

Tntitanfan

Thursday, November 01, 2001 - 07:54 pm Click here to edit this post
No, I want to see the Samburu brats stay with each other! Nobody else should be inflicted with them!

Hippyt

Thursday, November 01, 2001 - 09:04 pm Click here to edit this post
This is such big talk among the spoiling communities!!
I wonder myself right now,but I have lots of investigation to do!!

Grooch

Thursday, November 01, 2001 - 09:06 pm Click here to edit this post
New twist:

No water, at all, for either tribe?

(Because both teams broke all the pots?)

Snee

Thursday, November 01, 2001 - 09:30 pm Click here to edit this post
oh man, i hope they do the exchange thing and the brats get picked off one by whiney, annoying, snee-bugging one! shahoo!

Snee

Thursday, November 01, 2001 - 09:31 pm Click here to edit this post
and did i mention that brandon bugs me?

Joan

Thursday, November 01, 2001 - 10:24 pm Click here to edit this post
Llkoolaid, that is the most logical/workable thing I have heard so far.

Bracken, I had heard that too but my only question is, how would that work for immunity? Give out 2 idols?

I agree, it is probably going to be a rules thing.

Moondance

Thursday, November 01, 2001 - 10:41 pm Click here to edit this post
>They each have six , how about they have to send 3 off from each team, what would Samburu do? That would be great and it makes sense too<

Ok... help I am confused... what does this mean LlKool? What do you mean 'send off'?

Thanks ...:)Non smoker:)

Donut

Thursday, November 01, 2001 - 10:44 pm Click here to edit this post
Although the trading idea is great, and theres been a lot of talk about a three tribe thingy, i get the idea that CBS tends to talk things up way bigger than they actually end up. I wouldnt be surprised if it was just a one episode thing, probably for reward since its in the first 15 mins. maybe the teams have to split in half and spend the nite together in 4 groups of three on an all nite journey or scavenger hunt and people will get pissed cuz one brat will have to go with T and F etc.

Joan

Thursday, November 01, 2001 - 10:49 pm Click here to edit this post
Another good thought Donut...

Kep421

Friday, November 02, 2001 - 07:24 am Click here to edit this post
I hope that if they do break into 3 or 4 tribes that the members are chosen randomly (like pulling names from a hat), and that they keep only one immunity idol and the tribe that comes in last in the competition will have to go to TC.

One can only hope....

Azriel

Friday, November 02, 2001 - 07:35 am Click here to edit this post
I'm going with the two tribes remain intact theory, but they switch several people between the tribes.

Twiggyish

Friday, November 02, 2001 - 08:55 am Click here to edit this post
Az, you're throwing off my choices next week! Now I have to rethink things. You could be right because the network is famous for misinformation.
But then.... (shaking head, I am sooo confused)

Judy

Friday, November 02, 2001 - 09:14 am Click here to edit this post
I just don't see how a 3 tribe split could work. It CAN'T. When it is time for the fianl 2 there could be people on the jury who have had little or no contact with one or both finalists.

The swap theory is doable- but only if they throw out prior votes and start with a clean slate. Otherwise it is way too unfair for Clarence, Silas and Lindsey.

Crazydog

Friday, November 02, 2001 - 09:26 am Click here to edit this post
Judy I disagree about the 3 tribes not working. I envision them coming together as one merged tribe eventually, just after enough time to shake up old alliances and form new ones. But if they do swap, I also don't think they should throw out old votes. Nothing about the game is fair. It was unfair that some people got thrown into the tribe that couldn't get along. It was unfair that some idiots on one tribe dumped out all the water. It was unfair that one team brought paints with them. It was unfair that one tribe started off with 3 men and 5 women. I don't see why anything about any kind of swap or new formation should be fair as well!

Karuuna

Friday, November 02, 2001 - 10:06 am Click here to edit this post
I don't think the producers had any choice, except to do something differently than merging at 10 survivors. Jeff P made it very clear to Samburu last night, that they had a concern that once the tribes merged, Samburu would just get picked off. And the youngsters at Samburu didn't care. And Frank said on last night's show if he makes it to the merger, he'd "cross enemy lines", implying that he'd switch his allegiance to Boran.

So, to avoid the same complaint that was made about Survivor 2--the lack of suspense in the slow picking off of the weaker tribe--I can see the producers throwing a new wrinkle in to prevent that.

Realfan

Friday, November 02, 2001 - 10:31 am Click here to edit this post
I'm torn.

I hate to see Boran punished by having to lose members and break up their team. If the game is played the traditional way, down the line Samburu will lose because of the fifth member at the merge switching sides (Frank). Boran deserves this benefit, and the Four SamBratus deserve to LOSE.

I'm also disturbed by the idea of changing the rules mid-game, though Survivor has never, to my knowledge, posted or publicized the official rules.

However, I thought last year started to get boring after the merge, and except for Jerri, they did pick off the other tribe one by one. Yawn. I was excited to learn about the three-tribe rumor, something some of us had been suggesting and speculating on to make the game more interesting.

I just don't want the nice Boraners to suffer because of it.

Maybe each tribe has to VOTE who to send to another, new tribe. How sad! That would break existing alliances as they turn on each other.

Whatever happens, if the Four SamBratus lose, I'll be HAPPY!!

Car54

Saturday, November 03, 2001 - 06:16 am Click here to edit this post
OK, I just read a summary of the new Insider over at the MESS site, and looked at the pics, and here is my thinking...after TC (Jeff was sooooo irritated with the brats....) they need to do something about the Samburus...this is no fun.. just sitting, picking off sitting ducks...
The preview tells us that the Twist happens in the first 15 minutes of the next show-which usually shows us what happens to the tribe immediatley after TC, when they return to camp.

What if they get back and they have tree mail telling them that the teams are going to merge at 12 instead of 10-
In looking at the pics, at Boran, Lex and Kelly are smiling or at least interested, but at Samburu, the brats look shocked- so does Frank.
To me this makes sense---the Samburus are screwed- the kids thought they could take 2 weeks to get rid of the elders, and Frank has just basically told them he will go over to Boran (his "game plan" answer to Jeff at TC). Now they are merging with both Frank and Teresa, who can go and make alliances against them....
At Boran, Ethan looks concerned, but the others do not look upset- and for them this could be positive- they don't know anything about the problems at Samburu- they have lion problems-the S tribe won both the good immunity challenges, and they could use the cart that Samburu won to carry the good water they won- then the teams have food luxuries, blankets and other stuff- and a safer camp.

This would not be such a drastic change in the rules- would totally change the balance of things... there is a lot of speculation over at the other site, and it some of it makes sense to me. Just thought I would report back and see what you guys think...

Kep421

Saturday, November 03, 2001 - 06:36 am Click here to edit this post
You know Car, that makes sense in another way too. On another thread we were just talking about the physical challenges and how they were really unfair to some people in the tribes.

Merging early would allow them to switch to less strenous activites that involve thinking with the goal being an individual win.

Oh that would be sooooo cool. I would definately love to see everyone in one tribe right about now!

Resortgirl

Saturday, November 03, 2001 - 07:08 am Click here to edit this post
I love that idea too! It would sure fix the sambrats! I really can't wait for them to be kicked off and have to face Bryant Gumbel. I hope he rakes them over the coals....

Car54

Saturday, November 03, 2001 - 07:36 am Click here to edit this post
The other thing I was thinking that supports this is that so far Diane's list of people she got to know has been pretty accurate.
The next people on her list are Silas, Lindsay and Teresa... so if the merge happens, it they would be the likeliest to be voted out by the new tribe (tho personally I would get rid of Brandon before Teresa!- But maybe Diane has good taste and just didn't make friends with Brandon!)

Realtvfan

Saturday, November 03, 2001 - 08:10 am Click here to edit this post
For me, it was sad to see the material Bryant Gumbel had available to him regarding Jerri from S2 that Bryant chose not to use in his interview with her last time. I had 30 simple straightforward hardball questions he could have asked her and he never came close. Instead he asks, " Would you like some rice and beef jerky? " Ugh.

I suspect that Bryant will be throwing nothing but softballs at the brats. Jane is not any help either.

I know what I would like to see. I would like to be sitting next to the Sambrats parents on Thursday nights as they watch the show and later learn about the insider material. That might be entertainment as the parent can probably creatively rationalize how none of the brats emotionally grew past 5th grade. Shannon's mom comes to mind.