Gina8642 | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 01:36 pm   I just watched my tape of the CBS morning show from this morning - Kelly's visit. Kelly said two interesting things - at different parts of the show. ONE: As the first person voted off, she got to welcome all the new bootees to what she called "Loser Land". She indicated that she showed them around. Got to tell them where the bacon was, etc. TWO: Last night after the show had aired in east coast time she called Lex. She wanted to let him know that she had no hard feelings over what happened. She indicated that he did not apologize for accusing her of being a rat. Ok, so put these two threads together. She got to see all the new "losers" just voted off. If Lex and Kelly had anything to say to one another, it would have been said at that time. But only if Kelly and Lex had seen each other in "Loser Land". So, to me, this means LEX NEVER MADE IT TO LOSER LAND - THEREFOR HE HAS TO MAKE IT TO AT LEAST THE LAST TWO. .. |
Grooch | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 01:38 pm   Or is it a red herring? Hmmmm.... Lex lives in California. Why would she call him right after in aired on the east coast? He hadn't seen it yet. |
Grooch | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 01:39 pm   I'm in denial at the moment that Lex makes it to the final 2. If he does, I hope he is there with Brandon, to drive Lex bonkers! |
Britchick | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 01:45 pm   Gina, I don't think that's necessarily the only interpretation. She and Lex could have discussed their differences in Loser Land (or maybe the wounds were still too painful and they didn't). I think the point about her calling him last night was more that *they hadn't seen the show before* and maybe she hadn't fully appreciated how mean she had been about him when casting her vote. Or maybe the footage shown of Lex saying how he smelled a rat made her think that he may be feeling bad about it now and so she called him. In fact, the fact that there are no hard feelings could be read as a sign that he did in fact join her in Loser Land quite soon and so they were able to get over the whole thing and he admitted how wrong he had been etc. After all, she did mention that he was nothing like that in real life and how would she know if they had had no contact since she was voted off? |
Kep421 | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 01:50 pm   Maybe Lex did make it to loser land, but didn't believe any of Kelly's protests that it wasn't her who voted for him. I can see Lex saying that it didn't matter anyway, because she did vote for him the night she got booted. If Teresa made it to the final two, and kept the secret to herself until then, then Lex would finally have seen the truth last night. Maybe Kelly was trying to give him the chance to apologize after seeing the truth on TV? Just a theory... |
Gina8642 | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 01:51 pm   LOL at Grooch. I didn't say I was happy about my theory. But it just came to me. Kinda a bummer. Seeing Lex acting like such an idiot last night sure didn't do anything to improve his image in my eyes. |
Fruitbat | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 02:12 pm   I'm going with Kep421's take. |
Britchick | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 02:17 pm   Have you read Kelly's Chat? It seems to support Kep421's analysis pretty well since Kelly only found out just before the very end that it was Theresa! |
Car54 | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 02:17 pm   Just to add to this: Several booted survivors (pre-jury) have been asked who their friends are an a couple (Lindsay and Silas) have named players on opposite tribes, but specifically said that Lex is the person they did not get to know. I think until the past week, most of us thought it was because he goes far. Now I think it was because he is a jerk.... but maybe the final two are Lex and ......????? I can't think of anyone remaining right now that the jury would pick Lex over. |
Lancecrossfire | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 02:19 pm   I think it also helps clear up how much those in the jury get to see. One would think by this that there isn't any review of TV footage. |
Car54 | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 02:24 pm   Oh, Lance that is right... I was wondering about that a couple of days ago. |
Britchick | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 02:30 pm   I somehow formed the impression that the jury know what was said during the voting (and obviously who votes for whom) but I don't know where I got that from so maybe I'm wrong. As for other tv footage, it certainly looks like they don't get to see that. |
Tksoard | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 02:54 pm   On "Talk of the Town" out of Nashville, they interviewed Kelly today, and she said that when they go to "Loser Lodge", they are not allowed to say a word about what happened on site after the previous person left. So they can't influence anyone on how to vote. So in other words, what they saw is all they have to base the final votes on. What do they talk about for the last remaining weeks until the end? That would be SO hard!! She also said that when she talked to Lex last night, he really wasn't very friendly. Probably because of the things she said to the camera about him. What an Ass!! |
Moondance | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 03:12 pm   The jury would have NO way of seeing dailies(rough footage)... it goes into post production and edit. |
Fruitbat | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 03:18 pm   I wonder just how much they keep to that no talking about the site rule. There must be times they are alone and share something. That is their only connection and certainly all consuming. I don't buy it that they really abide by that! Very curious that no one seems to be close to Lex that has left the show thus far. It certainly does infer that he goes far. They are in close quarters and I doubt anyone could not get to know another. How could you avoid it? |
Britchick | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 03:26 pm   I agree Fruitbat, it would be so tempting. Especially if you are already in Loser Lodge and then someone gets booted off that you totally weren't expecting to see so soon. it would be hard to stop yourself from saying "how did you end up here? what happened?". |
Car54 | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 03:48 pm   I would bet Lex doesn't keep in touch because he is embarassed. No matter what happened, when he got home and regained his sanity...he had to know how this would look on TV, and for someone a self concious as him, that has to be bad. Can't wait to see him on Dave down at the deli! |
Hippyt | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 04:40 pm   I was thinking the same thing Tksoard! Why would Lex feel compelled to apologize to Kelly after watching her trash him to the camera for the last month! |
Gina8642 | Friday, December 07, 2001 - 05:15 pm   Actually Kelly said she called him after the show aired in East Coast but BEFORE it aired in California. I heard Lex lives in Santa Cruz, Calf. So Lex hadn't heard her bad-mouthing from ep. 8 yet. However, I suppose, Kelly did say plenty of unkind things about Lex in earlier shows. I also think that CBS made extra sure to show some of her anti-Lex comments so that Episode 8 would be more dramatic and believable. |
Spunky | Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 08:59 am   As long as he's not the winner I don't mind this possibility. I hate it when Lex is compared to Richard, he hasn't half of Richard's brain... |
Gina8642 | Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 09:10 am   I also think you can forgive and forget alot with a person just by being around them. You never actually talk about a tense event in your mutual past, but just being around one another can let bygones be bygones. At least that is the way it works in my family. Never talk about anything, but you "let-it-go" all the same. Kelly and Lex appear never to have got to that point. I think they would have at "Loser Land". And, if they hadn't, and had been mean and avoiding each other there. Why would Kelly try again and call him? I still don't think they spent anytime with each other in Loser Land. |
Judy | Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 12:26 pm   Lex was a raving loony when he got ONE vote against him... After getting the boot in the patoot - I am sure he is in a perpetual psychotic snit for his ENTIRE stay in Loser Land and NO ONE spends any time with him. |
Crazydog | Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 12:46 pm   I don't think it means anything that Kelly called Lex before last Thursday's show. I'm not so sure I believe the theory that Kelly didn't get the opportunity to speak to Lex in Loser Land. Kelly was probably still bitter about the whole thing and didn't want to talk to him there. It's been a while now so she's cooled off a bit... she called him because she recalls saying some pretty nasty things to the camera about him and she felt bad about it. The only way Lex gets to the final two is if his "Boran plus Brandon" alliance holds. After eliminating young Kim, Frank and Teresa, they dispose of Brandon, then older Kim. With it down to Lex Tom and Ethan (btw this was Richard Hatch's pick for the final three), Lex is guaranteed a spot in the final two because of, ironically, the Richard Hatch factor. If Lex wins immunity he is in. But if either of the other two get it, no matter which one, he will choose to go up against Lex because he knows people don't like Lex. Lex comes in second. |
Fruitbat | Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 12:51 pm   I can easily see that happening Crazy. OR..... Brandon goes back to SAM and they pick off Boran, then SAM votes Brandon out leaving T, KimP and Frank for the final 3. I am going with the latter plan. |
Fruitbat | Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 12:52 pm   Gut feeling KimP makes it to the final 2. |