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Archive through January 04, 2002
Squaredsc | Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 06:16 pm   as i said in the topic, lex is an idiot 'cause everyone is playing him like a violin(sp). first mamakim, then t-bird who i loved until she starting casting doubt about my tommy. yes my tommy, the tommy who i didn't like in the beginning but whose southern drawl has grown on me i sure hope that the personality that lex is exhibiting is only for this game and not real life 'cause i feel sorry for anyone who crosses him. anyway back to the show, now lex is feeling betrayed by tommy. he first of all should realize that his gut was wrong once and is probably wrong again. can't he realize that no one on that jury is going to vote for him. and now after all this time mamakim is trying to use some strategy. too little too late, she could have at least gotten one vote in the jury if she went with t-bird and her girl power strategy. well, at least i for once got my deadpool votes correct. p.s. i still like t-bird, she did what she could, scheming till the bitter end.  |
Car54 | Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 06:22 pm   Yeah, but he just won a new truck, and at least $60,000. Pretty good for an idiot. And hey, do we really know what Tom said to Teresa? No. He did say it to Kimj. And when Lex asked her if it was true, she didn't say Tom's name, and she didn't say yes. She looked down. Lex made his own conclusions. |
Squaredsc | Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 06:24 pm   no she didn't look down she nodded and she said that she was trying to get tommy voted off, but thank goodness it didn't work. |
Hippyt | Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 06:28 pm   I certainly don't think Lex is an idiot,he listened to what Theresa said,and didn't fall for it. Lex is playing a pretty good game at this point.If he goes to the final two Theresa may still hand him a vote,just because of how he listened to her today. |
Twiggyish | Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 06:30 pm   I felt like Teresa sold out at the end. |
Car54 | Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 06:33 pm   Would we like her better if she just lay down and let it happen? I have some respect that she fought all the way. Played every angle. She made it a more interesting game. |
Lilliegirl | Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 06:42 pm   At least Teresa tried everything to hang in there,she did nothing that Lex has already done and that lieing Kim I hate to even say her name because my daughters name is Kim. |
Hippyt | Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 07:01 pm   WHy do you think Kim is lying? Tom Has been talking about voting Lex off for a long time,he just won't do it yet because he's honoring their original alliance. At this point,I really think any of the final four could win,and I'd be okay with it. Last season,I would have passed out if Keith had won! And,I couldn't stand Kelly! |
Lilliegirl | Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 07:09 pm   Yes Tom has been talking about it and doing nothing about it and there is no yet to it anymore because Lex is winning everything so I think he will win and I dislike him just like I did Keith but I like Kelly, Lex and his gut feeling, yea right. |
Hippyt | Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 07:52 pm   Don't forget the jury Lillie. I'm not handing it over to Lex yet. |
Backhome | Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 08:01 pm   I agree, Hippyt. I think Lex has burned more than a few bridges with his fellow contestants which can only hurt him if he's in the final 2. |
Nessietessie | Friday, January 04, 2002 - 05:58 am   I do not agree that Lex is an idiot. Lex has been playing a good game. He is a strong competitor. Did you see how fast he did that word scramble? He is excellent in both the physical and mental challenges. He has been very fortunate to get all the perks, just as Colby did in Survivor 2. Do you remeber in the first episodes, how hard he worked? I can still see him with that cart, he looked like an ox, pulling it. If he wins, he deserves it. He is not my favorite though. My favorites in order for the remaining four: 1. Ethan 2. Tom 3. Lex 4. Kim |
Honey51 | Friday, January 04, 2002 - 06:28 am   Lex winning the reward challenges has enabled him to eat better than anyone else. His reserve strength is greater. I think that at this point in the game, challenges should be more mental than physical. The physical challenges really give the men an advantage (upper body strength and all). I would have liked to see this last immunity challenge be fairer to the women. |
Car54 | Friday, January 04, 2002 - 06:37 am   Nessietessie, I think you are right- he is really strong and has a lot of energy for both mental and physical challenges. However, Survivor has not been kind to the winners of many immunities- both Kelly and Colby did a final immunity run, and in the end, came in second. It will be interesting to see how things play out for Lex. He has had a slightly different role in the show than either Kelly or Colby- more public leadership and conflict than either of them. |
Tntitanfan | Friday, January 04, 2002 - 06:48 am   The RC was as mental as it gets - and a guy won that! |
Karuuna | Friday, January 04, 2002 - 09:25 am   I think the problem is that not eating makes your mind weak as well as your body, so it doesn't really matter if the challenges are physical or mental. In all three survivor shows, once someone gets on that winning streak toward the end of the game, they continue to win -- both mental and physical challenges. The fact that they have had more food makes them more likely to win, and that the others have had less food, makes them more likely to lose. It seems to be a problem inherent with the whole survivor setup. |
Squaredsc | Friday, January 04, 2002 - 09:30 am   yeah tntitanfan, but i was really surprised that no one else did as good as lex, i think word searches are very easy, even my kids do them in school for their spelling class and they do better then the other 4 did(they are 8 & 10 yrs old). also car is right about the final winners are the ones who don't win the challenges. personally i didn't like it when colby was winning everything but i liked kelly and keith. but lex is the only one eating regularly so he is a lot quicker and stronger then the others and the only reason he is still around is because he would be good to do against in the finals, it would be smart for him to go up against mamakim in the end 'cause compared to her he did outwit and outlast and she should have been gone long ago. GO RAVENS!!! |
Lancecrossfire | Friday, January 04, 2002 - 09:54 am   I'm definitely not a Lex fan, although tried to take note of both positive and negative things last night. At the very first, he was one of the strongest proponents of dumping the water instead of carrying it to camp. That is certainly one of the dumbest assumptions for him to make--that there would be readily available water. That one doesn't make him an idiot--just an idiot move. He survived that one though, and I bet it's long gone in their minds that he screwed their water situation. His challenge efforts: certainly a top contender as far as a physical/mental combination. Also a top contender for a challenge with just one of those components. For two reasons: as mentioned by Karuuna, getting food helps you mentally as well as physically. Once you get ahead of everyone in that respect, it cascades over the whole game. Second, to begin with he has good abilities in both the physical aspect and mental aspect. Not an idiot--just plays like one sometimes. Leadership: Without regard to wanting it or it being thrust upon him, he's taken a roll in leading. For most, that has meant votes. Lex has somehow skirted votes associated with taking charge. He's doing something right, and I bet we don't see a lot of it. His approach to competition: He got rid of Clarence right away--one of his big concerns for future challenges. Good strategy, although by getting rid of the best and winning only proves you won--it doesn't prove you are the best. I realize that is of no importance to Lex other than he is claiming to be the best. He isn't--he just gets rid of competition. Next, he has no respect for those that don't roll over and bow to him. He expects to be handed things, and hates anyone who would get in his way. His comment to Clarence about it not being personal was proven to be one of the biggest lies of the show when he took his votes extremely personal. Richard Hatch had no respect for anyone, although showed to their faces that he had at least a little. This seems to be Lex's biggest weak spot in his game. Although it ends up not being an important weak spot of the others have a higher priority to the alliance of Boran than to his behavior. So, I don't see Lex as an idiot. I see him more as being pompous, arrogant, and disrespectful, and a poor sport. With those qualities, he's gotta be the favorite. |
Ophiliasgrandma | Friday, January 04, 2002 - 10:14 am   The nasty, hateful things that have come out of Lex's mouth have definitely sealed him in my mind as a less than honorable man. All that invective rolls so tripingly off his tongue that I would imagine in the real world many, many people, including but not limited to his wife, have felt those fiery darts from his tongue. The man has had a lifetime of practice I'll wager. |
Car54 | Friday, January 04, 2002 - 10:25 am   In addition to physical and mental abilities, since the beginning, Lex has been a really high energy, low impulse control guy. I can't ever remember seeing him not very alert, fully engaged, in motion. I suspect he is someone who has 2 speeds- on and off. He seems to be running on raw nerve a lot right now. Pure adrenaline. Lance, I agree with much you say, but differ in one area (sorry, know Clarence was your pick) but Clarence was the most physically fit. If you define "best" as best Survivor game player- if he was the best he would still be in the game. He was really out front about his competitiveness (is that a word?) and very big on how strong he was, and pretty weak on the psychological part of the game. He made some seriously dumb mistakes early on that he never recovered from. (beansandcherries) The reason I say Lex has problems with impulse control is- he sees an opening, he goes for it- he puts himself totally out there. A lot of time that impulse to act, to speak out, has totally backfired on him and made him look bad to us and to the other players. I think that is just how he is. Several other players have used this to their own advantage- Lex is willing to be the out-front leader who talks to the bootees, well let him. Then nobody can say Ethan or Tom or Kim made the decision. Very useful to those players. We have seen Tom and Ethan openly discuss boot strategies very frankly in the insider clips, but publicly on the show they let Lex make the call and take the lead. And he does enjoy that role- probably his fatal flaw. I can't see the bit about him expecting to be handed things- he has been a hard worker in terms of chores, a big positive in group challenges- and from day (whether you agree with his approach or not) he has had a strategy and has worked on relationships and alliances (sometimes in a dumb way, no question) but at least he was playing the game. I am somewhat irritated with the Insider piece this week where Ethan basically says his strategy is to not be annoying. Well duh. Not being annoying is not worth a million dollars. The game is outwit, outlast, outplay- Again- not personally rooting for Lex, but with the group we have left- he has played with every ounce he has, he has lived by his wits (sometimes his wits are kinda addled, and he has been in danger so many times it is funny- but he is still in the game). Not bad for a nervy guy with a lot of tattoos and earrings! Personally, he gets on my nerves, but I gotta say, he has made this season a whole lot more interesting to watch. |
Resortgirl | Friday, January 04, 2002 - 10:25 am   Ya know Lance I just have to disagree! <His approach to competition: He got rid of Clarence right away--one of his big concerns for future challenges. Good strategy, although by getting rid of the best and winning only proves you won--it doesn't prove you are the best. I realize that is of no importance to Lex other than he is claiming to be the best. He isn't--he just gets rid of competition. Next, he has no respect for those that don't roll over and bow to him> That has always been an aspect of the game... getting rid of strong physical competition. My feeling is that although Clarence was stronger physically he didn't hold a candle to Lex intellectually. And Lex didn't single handedly get rid of him, he had alot of help. <He expects to be handed things, and hates anyone who would get in his way. > Please remind me of an instance that he expected something to be handed to him? I think he has worked his butt off to get where he is, and as far as hating anyone... I think he doesn't like NOT to be liked. He overreacted to votes against him definitely, but I think it's because he is used to being well-liked in his real life and hasn't had to deal with that feeling very often. (I can totally relate to that since as we all know here I don't do well when I feel slighted. ) <His comment to Clarennce about it not being personal was poven to be one of the biggest lies of the show when he took his votes extremely personal. Richard Hatch had no respect for anyone, although showed to their faces that he had at least a little.> I agree that the way he handled a vote against him was hypocritical but I don't believe he lied to Clarence when he said it wasn't personal when he voted for Clarence. I think he respected Clarence and liked him as a person, and knew he was a threat. If they just played the game of Survivor with all 16 people for the entire time then it would be a TRUE test of Survival of the fittest, but the producers chose to include as part of the game the voting off process. And it has always been an strategy to vote off a phsically stronger person. And Yes Lex took the vote personal, and I think it probably surprised him HOW personal it felt to get a vote. Anyway, I hope that Lex wins because he has shown to be strong in both mental and physical competition, has found a way to lead people to vote the way he would like for the most part. And it seems that most of the people on the show at least respect Lex if not truly like him. OK I'm done for the week! |
Serate | Friday, January 04, 2002 - 10:35 am   <I felt like Teresa sold out at the end.> Not really, because what they didn't show was before Teresa told them what Tom said she asked Lex to be honest with her, was she being voted off. He said yes. Since he was honest with her she was honest with him. You have to remember they edit comments the way they want them and who knows when they really said what they said. |
Resortgirl | Friday, January 04, 2002 - 10:46 am   Car54... we posted at the exact same time!!! And even though we are not rooting for the same person had alot of the same thoughts (although yours were articulated much better then mine) I thoroughly enjoy reading your very well thought out posts! I'm going to be so sad when this is all over!!! |
Car54 | Friday, January 04, 2002 - 12:05 pm   Hey, RG- I really don't like any of the players that much. I have a tendency to root for the ones who give us the most entertainment- and for this show, that is Brandon and Lex- if not for them, I would have been really bored. Hey, S3 starts in March! We just get a month to spoil the new version! And maybe the Mole will come back!!!!! I posted some beginning info on S4 in that thread last week, and there will probably be some kind of S4 preview on the reunion show this week. |
Nessietessie | Friday, January 04, 2002 - 05:13 pm   I am getting withdrawel pains already, knowing Survivor will soon be ending. Does anyone know when The Amazing Race will return? Lurking and posting on these boards (Big Brother, TAR, and Survivor) is relaxing and relieves the stress of the day. |
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