A few questions...
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A few questions...
Joan | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 11:23 am   There are a few things I have always wondered about... 1. Is there a list somewhere of the things they can bring AND the things they are given? I'm sure the contestants are given a list so they don't bring something as a luxury item that is going to be provided already. It would be interesting to see what kinds of things they start out with. 2. How come we never see the camera men? Is there only one or do they just all stand on the same side of the group? And...the night shots, are those being taped by a person or do they set up cameras to just record unmanned? I was thinking there were as many cameramen as there are Survivors, that would make sense in my mind, but I am not sure. 3. Do the women get to shave or something? This may sound gross but the women seem to wear bikini bottoms and sleeveless shirts all season long... Waxing wouldn't last 39 days unless you'd been doing it all your life. I'm just interested in the day-to-day stuff--what it is really like to be out there not just out in the wild but out in the wild on a TV show. The Insider clips have shown some more of that (ie: how they brush their teeth, how they cook) but those are my big 3 questions. |
Realtvfan | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 12:37 pm   According to previous interviews, each survivor chooses up to 4 items they would like as their luxury item. Mark Burnett then decides from the list of the 4 items, which item each participant will be allowed to bring. According to other web sites with access to the daily sheets during Survivor 2, there are a team of cameramen with both tribes at least 16 hours, if not 20 hours per day. The cameramen know how to keep each other out of the shots. If a cameraman is accidently in the background of a shot, they just do not use that shot on TV, unless they can edit the film to electronically remove the cameraman that way. All the cameramen wear the same color clothes to make electronic editing of them out of the background of a shot easier in case it is necessary. Again according to previous survivors, Maddog for example, the survivors are given more access to medical attention and vitamins than we are told about on the show. Survivor wants the "beautiful" people to look good on the show, so I would not be surprised if there was more working together than we have already learned about. Hope this is helpful. |
Joan | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 01:51 pm   Yes, very much so. Thanks! I had always wondered about those things. I didn't even think about editing out the camera men. I am not surprised that they get more help than we see. It is in CBS' best interest not to show a bunch of hairy women in bikinis on TV. lol I also find it interesting that they have to choose 4 luxury items and then the producer picks. I suppose that is so that CBS doesn't have to tell the Survivors exactly what is going to be provided but they still will have an item that isn't. Do you know if the Survivors are told where their destination is before they go? |
Kitt | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 04:53 pm   I don't think they're allowed to bring razors. I remember the S1 women being grateful when the old guy let them use his razor near the end of the show (when Shaun(?)'s (mental block on the names!) dad gave them goodies from their family). In S2 Elisabeth said she was always paranoid about lifting her arms because she couldn't shave, she'd also said on a previous interview about wearing those bikini bottoms that are like shorts, for obvious reasons. |
Analyzer | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 07:54 pm   Also, the show is more than heavily edited, it is in fact 'produced' and recreated. This came out in S2 during the maze challenge, when the arial shots did not show the cameramen in the maze. Do not mistake the show for a 'reality show,' it is not, but enjoy it anyway. |
Joan | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 08:32 pm   Good point Analyzer. Surely you don't mean to say the maze challenge was staged though, right? You just mean they go back after the fact and tape ariel scenes? I think a lot of it is "real" even if someone says "Hey, go back and do that again for a good shot." I don't think Elisabeth's hair would have started falling out and Colby would have lost so much weight if it were all fake. Kitt, I hadn't heard that about Elisabeth but that is interesting. I just remember Kelly from S1 in that pink bikini and Jerri with her way high cut suit and they were there quite a while wearing those. |
Judy | Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 10:36 am   I have a question about Ties in TC Voting... I understand that when there is a tie - it is determined by the number of prior votes against you--but what if there is none for either person ?? For example this week if Samburu goes to TC - I think there will be a tie between Frank & Lindsey. I am sure that then they would revote with Frank & Lindsey sitting out--but then what if it's 3-3? How do they settle that?? |
Realtvfan | Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 10:45 am   On the SI UK version of Survivor, they had such a tie when no one had any previous votes against them. They first did the re-vote to see it anyone would change their vote. Then the members without votes were required to go immediately into a separate conference and hammer out a decision. With the SI UK version, it was not a big deal because the 2 who did received votes were both going to get the boot next anyway. They did eventually depart in that order. Here with SIII US, we have a real issue because Frank and Lindsey represent a big 4-4 split. However on the previews to next week, it appears Lindsey may be going home with an injury. Case closed. We shall see. |
Joan | Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 12:01 pm   I would expect the older people to vote for Brandon before Lindsey, at least that is the impression I got from Frank and Silas' conversation. I think Silas will vote with the older people too so I don't really expect a tie if they lose immunity. |
Sawheel17 | Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 12:52 pm   I agree Joan. I hope Brandon goes. Lindsey already hurt? I read where she was in the hospital but I didn't know it happened so quickly. Say it isn't so, I'm already tired of Brandon's whining and laziness and his little blonde friend, I don't know her name. Oh yeah, I forgot about my question. Are they cooking anything, do they get anythng to eat besides can goods? No doritos or mt. dews yet? What's up with that. |
Smileeys | Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 01:10 pm   I wondered about what they were eating, too. This is two episodes that they didn't really talk about eating (besides beans and cherries) and it was a big focal point for the other two survivors. Also, what did they get for the reward challenge??? I remember Jeff saying something about they would get stuff they left behind but that is about it. |
Joan | Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 01:17 pm   Reward challenge was blankets and everything they had left behind originally. There was something else but I forget what now. As for his blonde friend Sawheel, that IS Lindsey. Kim is his other buddy but she has dark hair. |
Sawheel17 | Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 01:40 pm   Thanks Joan.I keep getting Lindsey and Kim mixed up, especially when they have their bandanas on.Ok,I got it,L-blonde, K-brown. Now, was Lindsey the one that confronted Silas? I'm going to have to pay closer attention to the girls on both teams.That means quit gawking at Silas and Ethan. Darn it!!! |
Judy | Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 04:08 pm   I think that Frank will be gunning for Lindsey because she is what is holding the Xers together. Frank & Lindsey can't stand each other. I think Frank realizes with Lindsey gone, they can have a more unified team. (ie He can control the other 'brats') I think Silas will vote with the Xers. I know he told the Baby Boomers he was on their side but what else was he gonna say out there at the water hole when they cornered him? He didn't want to make himself a target by telling them to shove it. When Silas came back he told Lindsey to trust him - lets' get Frank out of here... I am not falling for the Lindsey injury thing. I know there is an article about it which states she was spotted in a hospital the 1st week in August. Filming started July 11. That means Epi 3 is July 18-20. In previews Lindsey states "I'd rather have a broken leg than this" I think that lack of fluid combined with over exertion have caused her to have some painful muscle cramps. Frank also states sarcastically "Barbie went down in Africa" in reference to her pains or maybe failing in a challenge. I know he is a hardass but I don't see him making that statement if Lindsey injuries were severe enough to make her leave the game. |
Car54 | Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 04:24 pm   I am thinking Judy is right about Frank and Lindsay. Lindsay made a stink about what she overheard and is very outspoken. It was Frank that was talking out of school and if Lindsay calls him on it, he will be on the defensive. The older gen need Frank's energy and skills for now. I think Silas is in play... I had some sense there was some bonding with Lindsay when he was looking intensely in her eyes telling her to "trust me"...but I also think he is a player... so we will have to see what happens to sway him. |
Joan | Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 05:50 pm   Yes Sawheel, Lindsey is the one who confronted Silas. She also confronted Theresa and Carl. They showed Theresa on the show and Carl on the Insider clips. The reason I think Silas will vote with the older crowd is that I see him hanging out with them the most just casually. On the clips from CBS.com, he was always sitting with the older people and Brandon, Kim and Lindsey were nowhere around. He told Lindsey to trust him but Colby also told Jerri and Amber to trust him so I take it all with a grain of salt. Personally I think they would be fools to pick off the adults and be left with 2 girls, 1 wussy guy and Silas, especially if they start with Frank and Carl. I thought maybe Brandon was first because Frank said "he's outta here" but they would be smart to take Lindsey out first since the other 2 don't seem to defend themselves as much. I think Kim is starting to impress Carl from the clips though so my guess would be Lindsey, then Brandon, then Kim, then Silas. You never know though, someone could screw up before then. I am just surprised they don't seem to be making any attempts to hide it. Carl told Lindsey Frank was the leader and he was sticking with him and Theresa also admitted to being in the alliance. Maybe that is what frustrates her the most. |
Judy | Sunday, October 21, 2001 - 08:07 am   Thanks for those insights Joan....I too think Silas would be smart to stick with the older crowd. The problem is - I can't tell if he's smart !!! |
Sunshinemiss | Sunday, October 21, 2001 - 02:32 pm   True about Silas, he seems to be a bit of a conniver from what little we've seen but too soon to tell for sure. About the food question, I read elsewhere they are not doing the rice thing in Africa, they are doing some sort of mush or gruel, no details though. |
Chippy | Sunday, October 21, 2001 - 03:07 pm   Here's my question. Why in the world would Ethan start out in Africa for an unknow period of time with such big hair? It seems to be growing bigger and bigger and I'm afraid it's going to overtake his face soon. Remember Will? Didn't they learn anything from BB2? Sheesh. |
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