Archive through December 10, 2001
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Archive through December 10, 2001
Car54 | Monday, December 10, 2001 - 09:43 am   Actually, no credit due Mick, just 3 nights of insomnia! I got really bored with infomercials! I also think Brandon's bold move got me interested in the game again! I loved evil Rich in S1- love a guy who is there to play the game! I don't know about Frank. I am thinking Lex doesn't go for 2 reasons- the torch picture, and Kelly saying that Lex got his from the Jury. Now does he get booted and no one speaks to him, or does he go long enough that the Jury is people he screwed. Frank is flying so far UTR, now the Borans know about his 1 vote, but if the Borans vote off a Sam, I think it will be Brandon. Lex is saying he regrets what he did. The other thing is, there was something in one of the interviews that said Tom LOVES Frank- hoping Tom would target Brandon, who he doesn't like before Frank and Teresa, who he likes a lot. I cannot imagine Kimp or Teresa not understanding what happened when Brandon explains! He just put them back in the game so to speak. Not in a very team-player kind of way, but it could work! To stay alive Samburu HAS to accept him back. If they reject Brandon, they can't go against anyone! And if Brandon defects back to them, they only have 2 choices- Lex or Tom- who have votes. L/E/Kj/T could target Brandon IF somehow Samburu is mad enough to vote him too....it is just that kind of upset we have to watch out for. I am just preparing myself for some major twist again... Tom saying Lex is going shaky on them is really bothering me....who did he say that to? And what is Lex shaky on? And what do they do about shaky Lex? And who goes on a date? and who betrays and gets betrayed.... oh I have all afternoon to puzzle on this! Lex or Tom? Brandon or Frank? <and what about......Naomi?> |
Kep421 | Monday, December 10, 2001 - 10:01 am   I don't think Teresa is going to be too understanding when Brandon tries to explain his actions. Teresa has been very cautious about people lying to her. She was wary when she made the deal with Clarence and she was wary when she was talking to Kimp. She made comments to the effect that she hoped they weren't lying to her. And neither of them had lied to her before.... Brandon has already proved himself a liar. I don't think Teresa will believe him at all. |
Yuhuru | Monday, December 10, 2001 - 10:24 am   Car, You're right. To stay alive Samburu does need to take Brandon back, but it will be difficult. It'll be hard for them to be effective because they'll never know if they can speak freely to him. They won't be sure if he's a spy or really back with them. I hope that they can work it out so that they can vote off Lex. If they can't vote off Lex, then I don't care what happens. I'm still mad about Clarence, and since I've decided that I like Ethan now, I'm totally anti Lex. In addition, it would be interesting to see who takes over as leader if Lex leaves. Maybe we'll get to see an EVIL mama kim. This survivor seams really different than the others to me, and I'm loving every minute of it (mainly due to the Friday morning quarterbacking in TVCH) |
Grooch | Monday, December 10, 2001 - 10:47 am   I'm surprised no one has mentioned this before, but Ethan may be a target this week. When they went to vote, this is what KimP says. "Kim P.: Votes Lex: "Not sure if this is the right thing to do but you are a threat in the immunities and Ethan has immunity so this is why I decided to vote for you." Link |
Car54 | Monday, December 10, 2001 - 11:05 am   Grooch- relax-I'm pretty sure your boy is safe! At the time Kimp was under the impression that Samburu had 5 voters (including Kelly and Brandon) They could have voted Ethan off with a simple majority. This week things are more complicated because of the Brandon twist- if he stays with Boran, they can vote out any Samburu or Boran they want with a simple majority. They have 5 votes, Samburu has only 3 known votes. If Brandon re-defects back to Samburu, things are still a problem because the math is 4-4, so they have to target a player with prior votes, and Ethan has none. The only way Samburu can take control is to woo a Boran-(could happen, but KimJ likes Ethan a lot, so does Tom) or vote Lex or Tom, both of whom have big prior votes and would lose in a tie. Any way we do it, either everyone pulls a "Clarence" and votes out Brandon (suicide for Samburu) or it is 4-4 and prior votes and IC will determine the boot. Can't see Ethan going til at least next week. |
Grooch | Monday, December 10, 2001 - 11:09 am   Thank you, Car54!!! Maybe he will pull a Colby and keep winning ICs, too. |
Car54 | Monday, December 10, 2001 - 11:12 am   Well, in this game, if you win one, you kinda gotta keep it up, or they get you! He might just pull it off! |
Demented_Freak | Monday, December 10, 2001 - 11:18 am   thanks for the link, it was interesting. I agree Ethan will be a target if he does not get immunity. He has also been very vocal that he does not want any strong competitors around him. |
Mindyrama | Monday, December 10, 2001 - 12:00 pm   Not that I like Lex that much anymore BUT, I don't want him to get voted off, or any of the folks from his side..you just know if Lex goes, than Ethan goes to, and Tom..my two faves. I'm not sure if I'll even want to watch anymore if Ethan gets the boot. It's hard to pick a theory at this point, I mean, who saw the Kelly thing coming? |
Fruitbat | Monday, December 10, 2001 - 12:51 pm   Where is the interivew where Kelly said 'Lex got his from the jury'? That is pretty telling. It would mean he is in the final two. |
Moondance | Monday, December 10, 2001 - 02:08 pm   I agree with you Car... I think Brandon will be targeted by most for different reasons... hey are part of the deadpool?... if so who are you voting for? |
Car54 | Monday, December 10, 2001 - 03:04 pm   Fruitbat, gotta research that...no sleep/no memory- get back to you .....BUT could mean a couple of things....he is booted and no one will speak to him, OR he goes far and no one votes for him! OR it could be Kelly messing with us ala Carl sleeping with Teresa! Today, I am voting Tom off, Lex IC, Brandon RC, KimJ On (I am voting unspoiled, so have til 8 pm to change) I have serious commitment issues in life--- all these things could change... <oh, and I am almost always wrong- I always think it through carefully and am SOMETHING always happens to make me wrong> |
Tntitanfan | Monday, December 10, 2001 - 03:07 pm   Moondance - You are doing GREAT at the deadpool! Who are YOU voting for? I stay confused!! |
Moondance | Monday, December 10, 2001 - 03:12 pm   I am in constant confussion! Join the party I am not sure yet... I usually will not decide until Wed or Thurs... I am leaning for Brandon right now... still not sold on it... I have really good luck on guessing the ICs... so far I am leaning towards Lex... he is a strong player and knows how important it is for him to win since he has so many votes! |
Moondance | Monday, December 10, 2001 - 03:13 pm   >>I have serious commitment issues in life--- all these things could change... << Me too Car ... me too! |
Car54 | Monday, December 10, 2001 - 03:15 pm   lol Moon! I didn't decide who I was rooting for in TAR until the last episode! |
Tksoard | Monday, December 10, 2001 - 03:23 pm   Does anyone know for sure how many votes each person has? I think that is one of the biggest issues in voting some one off in the deadpool. I mean, next to who wins the IC. Geez, I've got a headache!!!!!!!  |
Kep421 | Monday, December 10, 2001 - 03:28 pm   Tk, adjust your pea packs!!!! There now, isn't that better? |
Car54 | Monday, December 10, 2001 - 03:34 pm   TK- Frank has 1 vote from Silas Lex has 6 from Clarence Teresa Kimp Frank Teresa (again) Kelly Tom has 3 from Lindsay Brandon Kimp |
Tksoard | Monday, December 10, 2001 - 03:36 pm   CUTE KEP!! Pea packs won't help this headache!! Only doing the correct votes at DP and getting out of the cellar!!  |
Tksoard | Monday, December 10, 2001 - 03:38 pm   Car, WHAT??? English please!!  |
Car54 | Monday, December 10, 2001 - 03:54 pm   OK Tk, take a deep breath Frank has one vote (From Silas)<and the Borans DO know about this vote> Lex has 6 total votes (from Clarence & then from Kimp, Frank,Teresa again, & Kelly) Tom has 3 total votes (from Lindsay, Kimp,& Brandon) |
Tksoard | Monday, December 10, 2001 - 03:57 pm   Oh OK Car. I get it now!! DUH? My hubby came up with a very strange senario (sp). I have to go get supper ready now, but I'll be back after Ally to discuss it. Bye for now!! HOOO HOOOO  |
Discoinferno | Monday, December 10, 2001 - 05:18 pm   Hey! I have another alliance set up if anyone wants to join! Send me an email and I'll send an invite! martyhoodlum@yahoo.com |
Fruitbat | Monday, December 10, 2001 - 05:38 pm   Something has it's teeth in my skull and I am seized with the notion that Lex does actually go this week. I think that would be the biggest shocker, actually. Another little chunk of my brain has a sinking feeling T may be next. I was leaning toward Brandon, Frank or Tom. I should just go to bed. I am driving myself nuts. The rumors are making me jumpy. |
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