++++EPISODE 12 TRUTH BE TOLD+++++
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Car54 | Thursday, December 27, 2001 - 06:26 pm   Next time on Survivor: Moto Maji endures new hardships (Scene: elephant "disrespects" the wellspring by taking a dump in it) ... one Survivor becomes the ambassador of a momentous delivery ... and a long standing alliance is thrown into question. (Scene of Ethan approaching Tom and Lex)(Lex: If I think he's going to stab me in the back, I'll cut his throat!) |
Knightpatti | Thursday, December 27, 2001 - 06:32 pm   lex is a real honey when he feels threatened |
Misslibra | Thursday, December 27, 2001 - 07:27 pm   Lex's threats are getting quite sickening!!! Maybe thats why they didn't vote him out their afraid of him. Otherwise I can't explain the way the voting went down. |
Grooch | Thursday, December 27, 2001 - 07:55 pm   Because everyone thinks they can beat him in the final two.  |
Ems | Thursday, December 27, 2001 - 08:05 pm   Well they thought they could beat will in the fineal 2 and guess what he won! I hope Keix is not the same! |
Gina8642 | Thursday, December 27, 2001 - 08:24 pm   Exactly grooch. And the Boran 4 all owe loyalty to one another. If they betray the allience now they have no chance of winning. If any boran goes up against a Sam (now only Teresa) all the other Sams vote for teresa and the betrayed boran also vote for Teresa. If they stick with each other then the jury has to pick the lesser of two evils. Here, each stands their best chance. I think KimJ had a chance to win if she went with the girl allience. At least as good as her chance with her Boran - so maybe she shoulda' flipped. But the three guys? They are smart to stay exactly where they are. Betrayal would not look good on them, and they would be more likely to lose if they jumped ship. And besides, I think KimJ does have a chance against any of those Boran. No gaureentees, but a chance for sure. To date the worst strategy I've seen is KimP and Brandon. Brandon either should have voted off Kelly with his Sam tribe, or told KimP his plan first. Knowing KimP's niavetee, I think voting against Kelly would have got him further. KimP was dumb because she went against Brandon after he voted out Kelly. So, you didn't like his vote Kim? How did it help you not to side with him anyway? You just garenteed the demise of the Sam tribe. At least if you had stuck with Brandon you had a vauge chance. You were a nice girl, maybe you could have won out as the sweetest girl. Now, you just come accross as another Amber - even weaker then Amber. |
Car54 | Friday, December 28, 2001 - 03:26 am   vidcaps of ep 12 preview Here is a link to some detailed vidcaps of the preview |
Fruitbat | Friday, December 28, 2001 - 04:57 am   I see all the insinuation about a rift between the men as drama to make the next episode seem more exciting than it will be. Theresa out unless she wins IC and KimJ if she does. Seems pretty likely the boys will stick together. There is really no reason not to. They have a lock on the final 3 right now. |
Car54 | Friday, December 28, 2001 - 05:40 pm   TV Guide Preview for EP 12: Survivor: Africa Truth Be Told 60 min. By Susan Hawk There's only six days left now until the final tribal council and, believe it or not, it's easy to lose focus as the game nears the end. You're mentally and emotionally depleted. You're sick of the flies, the filth, the whole environment. You're tired of wearing the same clothes for five weeks. You also start to pat yourself on the back and think, “I've made it further than I ever thought I would. I'm happy with this position.” But that kind of thinking will kill you. The most important thing now, of course, is to win immunity challenges. The players shouldn't worry about winning reward contests. They should save their strength. Plus, it's risky to stand out from the crowd too much. Above all at this point, you don't want to be the fifth one from the end to get voted out. In Hollywood terms, it's not very prestigious. It brings down your market value! And you better believe these guys and gals are thinking that way, too. Being in the final four has a much better ring to it. It's also important to work hard at making sure you sit next to the person you want to be up against in the finals. No one should want to sit next to Ethan. He's too damn nice. You need to drag a creep like Lex along with you to guarantee victory. But your moral values come into play now more than ever. Are you willing to backstab someone in order to get further along in the game? And if you do, will the jurors hold that against you? It certainly cost Kelly on the island. There is a lot to weigh in the final days and it all takes a drastic toll on you. |
Car54 | Saturday, December 29, 2001 - 07:42 am   Just thinking about the preview this week- where Lex goes off and says something about if I find out "he" is going to stab me in the back.... You know how these clues always seem obvious, we think we know what they are referring to, then it turns out to be nothing? What if indeed Lex finds out about the vote- and the "He" referred to is Brandon- isnt Brandon the one who fed him the story about Kelly's vote, and now Brandon is on the jury- and Lex probably thought he could count on that jury vote, now he finds out Brandon set him up.... Maybe it isn't Tom or Ethan at all. |
Awareinva | Saturday, December 29, 2001 - 08:04 am   Car, you are so good at this game! That is probably exactly what that comment is. And this is the episode where Teresa has to shoot for the moon and spill the beans about her vote against Lex. It is good strategy on her part to spill it now. But will it really have any effect? Ethan has never seemed to like Lex all that much- I wonder if he will switch. Noone will want to take him to the final 2, except maybe Tom. He's just too likeable. Ethan, Teresa, MamaKim final three seems to give Ethan a better chance of the final two. Will he switch? Probably not....but it sure is fun to speculate!  |
Fruitbat | Saturday, December 29, 2001 - 08:12 am   Kelly said in an interview that no one knew who placed that vote until they were about to leave Africa. I am thinking the preview does not hold much. Theresa will go or KimJ if T gets IC. I cannot see anything to make those boys give up the final three. They have a lock. |
Car54 | Saturday, December 29, 2001 - 08:47 am   But they are in the final days before leaving- for us it is 2.5 weeks, for them about 5 days. After the next TC, there is only a 3 day period with the final 4, so in theory, if the reveal happened but isn't directly discussed until TC, and Teresa was booted, Kelly would find out 3 days before they leave. And the jury only sees tribal council- so Kelly might not find out unless it was said in the council session. The only reason for Teresa to give away the vote is to use it to make Tom or Ethan turn against Lex- both of them consider themselves honorable players, and both of them took Lex's word on Kelly. Aware, in the Insider, there is a long piece with Ethan telling how well he likes Lex. He sees how others don't but he says he personally doesn't find Lex annoying. I am not really arguing for the "Brandon" theory- just saying that EVERY single time we get one of the clues, it seems obvious to us, and then in the show, it turns out to be referring to something else. In the preview, the HE seems like it could only refer to Tom and Ethan, but Lex had a bond with Brandon and is still depending on him for a jury vote- if Truth is told, then Brandon can not be depended on- he set Lex up. |
Car54 | Saturday, December 29, 2001 - 08:58 am   EPISODE 12 Insider Transcript Here is a link to a transcript for this week's Insider clips. |
Car54 | Saturday, December 29, 2001 - 01:03 pm   Here is a link to some vidcaps of this week's "Super" Immunity Challenge. Looks extremely physical. Week 12 IC |
Tntitanfan | Saturday, December 29, 2001 - 01:26 pm   Thanks, Car! I really like your theory in the "bleeping" thread, but just haven't seen anybody acting that smart on this show!! I'd love to be surprised though!! |
Car54 | Saturday, December 29, 2001 - 01:32 pm   Yeah, I'm usually wrong, but it sure would be fun, wouldn't it? This IC looks like it totally favors the men- very physical. Just want to mention- in the vidcaps for this week's preview, the part where Lex is shown saying if "he" tries to stab him in the back, he will cut throat..(say, didn't Nicole have tattoos, too? Wonder if there is any connection there?) Anyway, if you look at Lex in the pictures, one pic is of him with Tom and Ethan in a hooded sweatshirt, one is alone in his tan tee shirt- looks like the statement took place in two different times and settings. More of the creative editing? |
Gina8642 | Saturday, December 29, 2001 - 06:09 pm   I can't find the vidcaps in that link. But if this is stenous physical challange, perhaps the challange where they combine all the previous challanges? Then KimJ doesn't stand a chance and neither does Teresa. I think Teresa is a good athlete. But she has won none of the reward challenges recently, and has had significantly less food then the men. She already would have had a tough time against the guys even if she had been eating well. If it is physical and long, then Ethan or Lex will win. Teresa is out on Thursday then. Bummer!! (Maybe this is the time to slaughter those chickens? Little protein, Little fat, alot of added strength? It would be to the Borans advantage to ixnay that idea.) Notice we've never seen real fights over food. (well, except for the Jerri accusation.) I would think there would be hoarding, or serperate fires or something. More Lord of the Flies like. |
Gina8642 | Saturday, December 29, 2001 - 06:11 pm   Oops, the word is STRENUOUS. I even looked it up in the dictionary. |
Car54 | Saturday, December 29, 2001 - 06:16 pm   ic vidcap link Sorry, Gina let's try that again. |
Car54 | Sunday, December 30, 2001 - 07:36 pm   There is a new commercial up today. Here is a link to the vidcaps: new ep 12 promo vidcaps Looks like pics of the RC- hmmmm Kim and Teresa hugging - does one of them win the RC? Last year this was the RC where Colby won his new car. Also pics of Lex looking p*ssy, and more on the IC challenge. |
Hippyt | Sunday, December 30, 2001 - 09:02 pm   I think it's definitely going to be either Lex or Ethan winning IC. Bye-bye Theresa. Watch old Tom pull through,and win,he'll keep T-Bird,and Ethan is gone. Hey,it could happen!LOL,at this point anything could happen! I don't really get what the diaper box and the little baby have to do with the reward,and the ambassador thing. Apparently,the winner is going to give goods to the African people.That would be nice to see. |
C1mag | Monday, December 31, 2001 - 09:29 pm   Lex can still win it all!! I really can see KimJ going all the way and against any of the men she will lose. Yep I think Lex could even beat her in a final vote. She is the only remaining he could beat. Frank will not give it to a woman. Neither would Tom. Kelly had a dislike for her and Brandon owes Lex. T bird has all but begged that woman to join an alliance and not once has she helped her. KimP is never going to give it to KimJ. There ya go. The winner between Lex and KimJ would be Lex. If Lex has half a brain in his body he will figure she is the only one left he can beat in the finals. In his mind he would think that he was respecting her by picking her and hopefully they will get rid of Ethan for him so he doesn't have to chose her over him. Will it happen this way? It's sort of up too Ethan and the final immunity's that remain. The big question left is who would they each want to take to the finals? Tom would want to take KimJ with Lex as an alternate. Lex only has KimJ left to pick. Ethan is sitting pretty because he can beat them all. However, his journey to get to that final 2 will be the hardest of all. After T is gone he is the next target for sure. I hate to say this but the best bets for the over all win is Tom or Lex. Good luck to Ethan cause he going to have to earn it to get there. None of them will pick him to get to the finals. |
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