Archive through January 11, 2002

The ClubHouse: Archives: I guess you don't have to be a "survivor" to win the million: Archive through January 11, 2002

Spunky

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 09:34 am Click here to edit this post
Okay, now that I read how Lex lost (drat, I was waiting to see that and I ran out of tape while away from the tv) and Kim won the last challenge as well, this confirms my belief that Ethan was quite disappointing during the last few episodes. I think he only won the archery challenge and was mostly flying under the radar (is that how you say?).
So as long as you don't make enemies you don't have to win anything....just the million!!

Anyway, out of the last three I still would have wanted Ethan to win but not for any great merit.

Britchick

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 10:23 am Click here to edit this post
Tina won no challenges at all last year - Ethan did win one reward and one immunity. So it's not a new thing that the one who wins a lot of challenges (Colby, Lex) doesn't win the million.

Whoami

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 10:31 am Click here to edit this post
Tina did win a reward challenge. She got to "chat" on line with her family IIRC.

Car54

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 10:43 am Click here to edit this post
And she would have won the pole standing, but she gave it to Keith.

Grooch

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 11:17 am Click here to edit this post
I think not making any enemies is a hard thing to do.

I don't think I would be able to keep my mouth shut when the others start to annoy me. And then they would boot me out.

Britchick

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 11:56 am Click here to edit this post
Oops, sorry I forgot about Tina's reward challenge. I still think the point remains that winning Survivor is historically not linked to winning challenges.

Neko

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 12:03 pm Click here to edit this post
Ethan was never voted against once in the game except for last night by Brandon and Kim P when they voted for MamaKim to win.
Now that's what I call flying under the radar, I think even Tina got a vote or two!

Whoami

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 12:17 pm Click here to edit this post
Survivor is also now 3 for three where the person who picks the other to be in the F2 with them loses to the person they picked! I don't think I'd want to win the final challenge!

Car54

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 12:45 pm Click here to edit this post
So far, the person who wins the final IC has control of the game, but so far, has NEVER won.

Cinnamongirl

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 01:02 pm Click here to edit this post
Winning Survivor is more than winning challenges. Even if you won every immunity challenge along the way, you are not guarranteed the million dollars, people would probably hate you by then anyways :). Outwit, Outlast, Outplay in my mind doesn't equate to win as many challenges as you can. Ethan even said after winning the challenge that he felt funny about it, didn't like leaving camp to let the others talk, didn't want to look like a threat. Didn't want to pick someone to go with him in case there were bad feelings about it.
Its a fine line these guys have to walk and I doubt its easy. I personally think Ethan played a better game than, say Lex. Not stepping on peoples toes and flying off the handle are as important as any IC win.

Car54

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 01:21 pm Click here to edit this post
After S1, the players all thought you had to play like Richard Hatch to win. I hope they don't all react to Ethan winning by becoming too UTR- 16 Ethans would be pretty boring.

I sort of like the scheming and head trips- WHEN it is done well (not like the mallrats- they were very BAD at their plotting and planning!) I am glad S4 players were in the game when S3 was on- they won't have any reaction to this game. (Tho I did read that they were told about the Twist before their game started.)

Whoami

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 02:14 pm Click here to edit this post
Even tho the Mallrats were terrible in their plotting and planning, you have to admit it was fun watching them bumble along!

Car54

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 02:36 pm Click here to edit this post
Very true :)

Don't you wonder what the casting is like? Who could sit in a room with Silas for more than 3 minutes and not know he was a fool?

I kind of wonder what kind of mix they are really going for- it can't be skill- not one of these people could make fire- is it personality?- then who cast Frank and Lindsay? Is it athleticism? Sonya and Maralyn?

We need somebody from this board to go through it
(Go Moon!) so we can find out the skinny on how they pickem.

Gina8642

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 02:39 pm Click here to edit this post
I think the plotting and planning is what makes the show fun to watch. I wish they had cast more of those types. Especially some wiht a few more brain cells then Brandon. I think this show was really overloaded on the "integrity" theme. Sanctimonous types really bother me. I suppose those who really do play with integrity (READ NOT KIMJ) arn't too bad. But you need to mix them up with the schemers to make it fun. (Kind of the Rich/Rudy combo - now that was fun!)

Speaking of what they need, how about some women in their mid-thirties? It seems in the world of Survivor if you a female, you need to be either the "young, bikini, cutie" or, "Over 40, or better yet over 50, maybe retired female." The mid-thirties in a demographic I'd like to see.

I know KimP was 30 but it sure didn't show in anyway.

Moondance

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 02:47 pm Click here to edit this post
I am making my tape next weekend Car:)

Car54

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 02:51 pm Click here to edit this post
Woo Hoo!:) Tell them you bring at least 4000 loyal viewers every week with you!

Moondance

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 02:57 pm Click here to edit this post
That's a good line... I may use it! You are good at this... hmmm maybe you should be the one sending in the tape:)

Discoinferno

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 03:16 pm Click here to edit this post
Oh my gosh, Moon... .if we both apply and make it, how will we know each other?

Car54

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 03:20 pm Click here to edit this post
Nah, I am a big baby....
I'll tell you my "camp" story:

I was a girl scout, and one summer they sent me to camp. First thing I was suspicious because they had us sitting on logs instead of nice outdoor furniture...

We had to sign up for chores.... and I had never camped or stayed away from home, but I volunteered- "latrine" sounded like such a nice word... maybe it was something French....

Anyway, one look at the latrine, and I was in the Camp Director's office- I had her get my mother on the phone, and I gave her what for... made her come get me then and there... did she know they made us pee in a hole in the ground???

That was my experience with the great outdoors- I get really cranky if there is no air conditioning or room service!

Moondance

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 03:26 pm Click here to edit this post
ROTF Car! :)

Ok well TVCH needs you here anyway to keep the Survivor threads updated and in line - online!

Trust me Disco, I have a feeling I would know exactly which one you were!

Car54

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 04:19 pm Click here to edit this post
Ok, Moon, Disco, if you meet up at auditions, the TVCH password is: rosebud

Moondance

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 04:20 pm Click here to edit this post
gottcha!

Discoinferno

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 04:24 pm Click here to edit this post
What will we do if we're on separate teams?

Moondance

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 04:30 pm Click here to edit this post
Hand signals at the challenges

Car54

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 04:43 pm Click here to edit this post
See, this girl has totally got it.

My work here is done