Tksoard | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 06:07 am   She was glad she got voted off. She was sick and dehydrated and it was really rough. She said she didn't know they were dumping the water (really dumb move) until they were dumping the 3rd one. Clarence lied about the food. She told him she wouldn't be able to eat, but he insisted on opening the can. She only had 2 spoonfuls and he ate the rest. He Lied!! (let's hear his story) They are still friends and E-mail each other. She didn't hear what he said as he voted her off until last night. She will have to talk to him about that!! That's all I can remember.  |
Resortgirl | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 06:28 am   She seems pretty believeable and forgiving of Clarence. I didn't realized she would get to see all of Africa for an entire month! That would make the whole thing worth it. |
Twiggyish | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 07:21 am   I was wondering if anyone from the Survivor staff would have given that woman medical help? At what point do they intervene? She could have been in serious trouble. |
Grooch | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 07:27 am   I agree, Twiggy. It looked like Twiggy didn't even go over to her to check her out. It was like, "To bad." |
Twiggyish | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 07:29 am   You mean they didn't go over to check her out? I wasn't there..LOL (Although I would love to visit Africa) I agree, they didn't check her out. It looked like she was shaking and totally drained. |
Grooch | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 07:34 am   Ooops! Sorry! I meant to type "they". LOL!  |
Franny | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 07:37 am   but by the time they got back with the water she looked much better, enough at least to smile when Clarence was getting in trouble, so I would think someone must have tended to her. |
Llkoolaid | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 07:39 am   They should have checked her out, she was shaking and totally drained but she still managed to smirk when Clarence was taking the heat, not that he didn't deserve it. |
Peggy1026 | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 07:39 am   I also was very concerned about Diane. The woman looked worse than death warmed over (with apologies to the way poor Jeff looked)and I kept thinking they have to give her some help--in fact, when the others came back and she was walking around I wondered if they had gien her some water or if she had drunk some bad water and would soon be puking, etc. |
Llkoolaid | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 07:40 am   too slow again, not copying you Franny, just posting at the same time, anyway great minds think alike LOL |
Tksoard | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 07:45 am   I don't understand one thing. She said how terrible the water tasted (on the E.S), but they couldn't boil the water until they came back from tribal counsel with the fire. She was gone then, so was she talking about the original water being bad? It should have tasted like heaven if she felt so bad and needed it.  |
Dilligaf | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 08:19 am   Tk, what I gathered from what the survivors said, is that if they didn't cap the gourds, the water took on a foul smell and taste. I think one of them referred to turpentine. So what little Boran had was tainted with the bad smell and taste. Perhaps that's what she meant....who knows. |
Goatgirl | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 08:19 am   Am I the only one who thinks it is Diane who lied about the can of beans and not Clarence? Even if that isn't so, she definitely intended to get him in trouble with the rest of the tribe hoping to turn it to her advantage. I'm glad it didn't work. |
Jenhavins | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 08:32 am   I think she did Goatgirl. Lied that is. |
Willsway | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 08:43 am   I also think she was trying to get Clarence into trouble. She knew she was the prime candidate to get the boot, so she was trying to get them to look elsewhere. On the medical issue, does anyone know what their policy is? I had always thought that if they intervened then you were out. Since it is about surviving the elements, if you need medical assistance you're disqualified, i.e. Michael's burns. Does anyone know for sure? |
Max | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 08:44 am   Goatgirl, it definitely crossed my mind that she could have been lying about the circumstances in order to deflect attention from her poor performance in the challenge. She knew a vote was coming up and that was a good opportunity to get people to vote for Clarence instead of her. Could have been either way. |
Grooch | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 08:50 am   When Clarence voted, he did say that they had bonded to each other and he compared her to his mother. Maybe they both hatched the plan and never thought they would be caught. When they did get caught, they both blamed each other. |
Spunky | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 08:58 am   The thing about taping the show is that curiousity is so great that I forwarded to the end to see if Clarence was gone but saw Diane instead and so I rewinded and enjoyed the Tribal Council portion. Somehow I was glad, don't know why, but I wanted a strong guy like Clarence to remain in the show. Getting rid of Diane was a good move so early in the game. You don't want team players who are too weak and causing them to lose the challenges. Sorry for her health, but it was to be expected to see her go the first. Sometimes I wonder if the producers choose weak contestants to make an easy elimination early in the game. I don't like that old man too much... |
Voyeur | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 09:15 am   It will be interesting to see if any Clarence/Diane footage is on the Survivor Insider stuff. Free this week! |
Battlestarx | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 09:42 am   I remember hearing one of the contestants from the 1st show say that each and every one of them got medical check-ups by a doctor everyday. my prediction on who goes next on that team is the Goat Farmer. |
Battlestarx | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 09:44 am   Susan sliced her hand during the first show and was treated for it--so I don't think just medical intervention disqualifies them. It is probably if you are too sick or too injured to stay. |
Bracken | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 12:48 pm   Yes, agree Battlestarx. I also remember them treating Colleen for those nasty sores on her legs. I think the medical condition must be severe enough in that it causes you to be removed from camp site that disqualifies you from competition. Voyeur, it looks like CBS has definitely developed a new revenue stream. They are already charging for "insider" clips, only a few of them are free and those I viewed aren't worth that price. |
Moondance | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 02:29 pm   I wanted Diane to be voted out... not to say they were both guilty of the bean saga but Diane's smirk said it all! She was the weakest link... |
Tess | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 03:08 pm   Diane was on Access Hollywood this afternoon and she had passed out after the immunity challenge. She was treated by a doctor at that point--that was just edited out of the show last night. She also said again that she was glad to be voted out as she was sick.....I'm not thinking she was as glad as I was to see her gone, however. |
Tksoard | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 04:03 pm   As far as the smirk goes, I don't know if that was it last night or not. She had the same "smirk" on her face today on ES. Maybe she's just a smirky kind a gal. I do believe she was lying though.  |
Grooch | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 04:06 pm   They were in cahoots and they both got caught. They both ate some so both are guilty. |
Rissa | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 04:19 pm   Goatgirl.... I think she was lying as well. I was watching her face while Clarence was talking and she just looked...... shifty. She looked like she wanted to crawl out of her skin and then when Clarence got the big never-ending lecture she was actually smirking. At the same time Clarence looked annoyed that the others were not *getting* what he was saying. I do think Clarence took advantage of her being ill to get some food though. The way it probably went is that she was sick and Clarence or her made the initial suggestion that some food might help settle her stomach. Where Clarence went wrong was eating some too. She may have convinced me if she hadn't made the comment that she told Clarence she didn't want to eat and he pretty much forced a few bites on her. She didn't rub me the right way from the beginning when she kept her distance from everyone else on the walk to camp instead of being a part of the group and forming initial relationships. |
Muse | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 07:21 pm   Just to comment on the medical treatment...Rodger and Maralyn were both checked out after they completed that really grueling immunity challenge (the one where the teams were tied together and had to go through an obstacle challenge). So I get the impression that they have medical staff check anyone who seems like they're having any kind of problem/potential problem. And the rules state that you're eliminated from the game if you're removed for treatment. So the medical staff can treat the minor stuff that comes along...it's just the major injuries (like Mike's, where he had to go to the hospital) that get them cut from the game. |
Twiggyish | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 08:22 pm   But, they didn't show treatment. The whole idea for Clarence to open the beans was to help Diane. So, if they did treat her, then he didn't need to open it. Does that make sense? I think he helped her and the Survivor staff didn't intervene. Although, I do find it strange the camera left with the others and did not stay on Diane and Clarence. So, who knows what really happened. By the way, I like Clarence even if he did eat most of the beans. |
Awareinva | Saturday, October 13, 2001 - 08:52 am   Twiggyish, I bet a camera did stay on Clarence and Diane. I can't believe that there is not a camera with every group at all times. After all, Mark B. doesn't know what might happen at any moment and wouldn't want to miss any good stuff. I think that it was more exciting to just air the speculation about what happened than rather just let us see who really was lying. I like Clarence too- but either he was really dumb to let Diane play him, or smart enough (and apparently hungry enough) to figure they would vote the weaker of the two off. Risky if true, but look at some of the stunts Will on BB2 pulled and he won the darn thing! |