Archive through January 13, 2002

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Urgrace

Thursday, January 10, 2002 - 05:59 pm Click here to edit this post
Can you believe it??? Kim Johnson wins two immunity challenges in a row, AnD waits til the very end of the show to do it!!! Who'd of thought she could win both at this stage! I sure didn't!

Squaredsc

Thursday, January 10, 2002 - 06:42 pm Click here to edit this post
i didn't think so either. still verry surprised.

Nyquilbeer

Thursday, January 10, 2002 - 07:02 pm Click here to edit this post
Congratulation Girl you made it to the final two. whoever think. , your really surprise me. again Congratulation.

Kep421

Thursday, January 10, 2002 - 07:22 pm Click here to edit this post
I think KimJ's winning the first immunity had to do with her keeping her mouth shut and ears open as much as she did. She learned a great deal about her fellow survivors....

I knew that KimJ was going to win the balancing act because she immediately found her center of gravity, hunkered down and didn't move.

Ethan and Lex didn't find their center of gravity and kept moving around...even without the diarreah, Lex would not have been able to beat her.

Pretty amazing....I say good for her....

Ketchuplover

Thursday, January 10, 2002 - 07:26 pm Click here to edit this post
I refuse to post in a thread about Kim Johnson :)

Twiggyish

Thursday, January 10, 2002 - 07:27 pm Click here to edit this post
I say good for her, too!

Yuhuru

Thursday, January 10, 2002 - 07:42 pm Click here to edit this post
I'm not a mamakim fan, but she did very well. Especially at the last tribal council, her answers were so much better than Ethans. She played a great game.

Car54

Thursday, January 10, 2002 - 08:05 pm Click here to edit this post
Did anyone think it was incredibly arrogant that every time the men talked about "their" alliance, they NEVER included Kim's name. I wonder how she feels about that. I would be laughing hard now.

And Tom made an ass of himself when he voted. It was petty and mean, and hurtful. I really didn't like that at all. It made me think of how mean he was when he voted Clarence.

Squaredsc

Thursday, January 10, 2002 - 08:16 pm Click here to edit this post
ketchuplover 2 late. car, i disagree with you, i enjoyed what tom said with his vote and there was always the men's alliance. also kim was very down on tom and before 2 nite he didn't have anything to say about her or to her. she is just lucky that she got carried along and that the last two challenges were something she was good at.

also there were a few people who didn't care for her: kelly, brandon, and tom.

im just glad that she didn't win and she sealed her fate by voting off lex.

Gina8642

Thursday, January 10, 2002 - 08:18 pm Click here to edit this post
Tom is not my favorite person in the world, but in his defense I have to say KimJ just threw several zingers at him in the moments before he voted. That was his chance to blow off some steam at her. I wonder if he regrets that now?

Also, I don't think KimJ was ever in their alliance. She said quite a few episodes ago that the alliance was the "three guys". It was an accurate statement. No hidden deceptions. From the aftershow, it seemed the three guy alliance never really wavered. MarkB had to throw in ever possible negative comment to try to make it seem weaker, but it was clearly very strong.

The only way KimJ was going further then number four was to win immunity. And she did it.

Hippyt

Thursday, January 10, 2002 - 08:29 pm Click here to edit this post
LOL,Squared,I was gonna say the same thing to ketchuplover!
I thought what Tom said about Kim was kinda nasty too.Although,you're right,she did down him in two questions.But,remember ,Tom also told Clarence off,and told him he's shot him if he had a gun. I still think there's a lot of Tom we didn't see.

Car54

Thursday, January 10, 2002 - 08:30 pm Click here to edit this post
Due to some dumb stuff pulled by the three men (voting off Clarence and Kelly- losing their majority early) if Kim had not stuck with them to the end, none of them would have been there.
Their power was totally up for grabs THREE times, and if she had not stuck with them, none of them would have made it this far, so I just think it was a little thoughtless.

And it wasn't just Tom- tho I think he was really small- (I don't think Kim was mean in what she said to him, but he was trying to be petty when he voted).

Nyquilbeer

Thursday, January 10, 2002 - 08:36 pm Click here to edit this post
I think it would more fun if Ethan and Lex is the one whos seating on the fnal two. i think the jury going to have a very mean Q to lex. hehe , save by the bell huh?

Muse

Thursday, January 10, 2002 - 10:43 pm Click here to edit this post
I don't know, Nyquilbeer. Pretty much everyone on the jury liked Lex except for Kelly. Even now, having seen the stuff she wasn't privy to before *and* having presumably talked to everyone on the jury, Kim J said that Lex would've beaten her in the final two. Teresa has also commented on the fact that he was well-liked, and that the editing depicts him in a way that is different than what they saw.

Anyway, I'm not sure how I feel about Kim J making the final two. I kind of feel like she didn't "deserve" it (I'm just using my own personal criteria here, of course :)), but I also feel like I didn't see much of how she got to where she is. We saw so little of her interaction with the jury and with Ethan. I get the impression that she just rode on the mens' coattails and just really lucked out at the end (with Lex being sick, Ethan apparently being dehydrated, and being closer to Kelly than any of the three guys), but I really don't know. All of the final few had good luck along the way, I guess. I just would've liked to have seen Kim J be a little more of a leader (and more sincere in her answers to the jury, btw!). Then I would've personally felt she "deserved" second place. :)

Llkoolaid

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 04:56 am Click here to edit this post
I also think Kim lucked out on the immunity challenges. She only won the first one by one question, which were pretty easy, Tom was in it to the end and it is obvious he isn't that swift. I think she had the best chance at the last one. Her little feet on the posts would have been a lot more comfortable than Ethans big boots. Those poles much have felt like spikes to him. Lex was sick and dehydrated so he wasn't going to last. It is probably a smart thing that she didn't align with little Kim and Theresa because it was predictable that the last two immunity challenges would be what they were and she had to know she would have a better chance against the men. I have my doubts that she ever could have beaten Little Kim or Theresa on the last immunity.
I believe that she was carried to the end by the men but I don't blame her for that. She is physically weaker and most of the challenges favoured physical strength. Good for her making it to the end, no one said how she had to get there just as long as she did. She is a 56 year old grandmother who beat out 14 other physically stronger players plus the thousands of people who didn't even make on the show.

Ophiliasgrandma

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 08:02 am Click here to edit this post
The HAIR folks. It was the hair. That is why she won the harsh IC. Her blond hair that reflected the harsh rays of the sun gave her just the edge she needed to stay on those posts. I have very dark hair and I can tell you that in the hot sun that is the part of my body that gets the most uncomfortable the fastest.

Car54

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 08:13 am Click here to edit this post
The choice of the last two immunity challenges guarantees that a woman CAN be one of the Final 2.

I think the women have been able to do the pole standing, idol touching because their center of gravity is over their feet- they can balance better. The men, with their center in the shoulders, have to bend to touch the idol, and are off balance. There is nothing they can do to put their weight over their feet- hence they lose.

Twiggyish

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 08:22 am Click here to edit this post
I was thinking the same thing about balance.

Car54

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 08:41 am Click here to edit this post
A couple of years ago, we had this contest at our office, and it always came out the same-
Stand about a pace away from a wall- put a chair between you and the wall. Bend over the chair and touch your head to the wall-(you should be standing far enough away so that your neck and back are perpendicular to the wall.

Now try to pick up the chair, without straightening. Women can usually do this, men usually have trouble because their center of gravity is in the shoulders, not the hips.

Squaredsc

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 09:19 am Click here to edit this post
very interesting car, and what did the winner get?

Tntitanfan

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 09:22 am Click here to edit this post
Did anyone in their wildest dreams imagine Mamakim flinging aside her walker and winning two IC's back to back? Good for her!!

Car54

Friday, January 11, 2002 - 09:28 am Click here to edit this post
The women got a big laugh, the men got frustrated!
No matter how big and strong they were, they could never pick up the chair without falling into the wall- and the littlest, daintiest girls could always do it!

Squaredsc

Sunday, January 13, 2002 - 05:34 am Click here to edit this post
lol tnt i love the flinging aside her walker. lololol.

Gina8642

Sunday, January 13, 2002 - 08:27 am Click here to edit this post
I think the last immunity challange favors women too. Men never do well at that "standing in the same place thing". Men are notorious for fainting when they are made to stand still for long periods of time. This happens in the military when they have to stand at attention, it also happens at weddings and not just to the groom, but to his grooms'men too.

I also thought KimJ was lucky in the part of the idol/pole she grabbed to hold on to. It was small, and easily grasped - less fatigue on her holding arm. The guys grabbed higher up, where the idol had a larger circumfrence. They also couldn't get their finges to meet on the other side like KimJ could. This may seem minor, but it only takes a small difference in effort to really add up over three hours.

Not that I think that this "women's event" was an unfair advantage. It was the only challange that seemed this way to me, so it was about time. I thought way to many of the challanges this season seemed to benefit brute stength, and quickness over large distances. Even the "mental" challanges like the first puzzle, they had to quickly haul the pieces to the puzzle board.

Neko

Sunday, January 13, 2002 - 10:01 am Click here to edit this post
Hehehehe..
"Flinging aside her walker."
She really doesn't look her age!I thought she was younger than she actually is!
Congrats MamaKim!