Carl slips up with a show secret (Spoiler)

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Rissa

Friday, November 16, 2001 - 07:54 pm Click here to edit this post
Just caught this article at http://www.canoe.ca/JamSurvivorAfrica/nov16_secret-can.html

Don't know how much I should say for those who checked in even with the word spoiler in the heading. :) How about I place a strategic blank? This is the beginning of the article:Attending the launch of the new "Survivor" video game for the PC in New York, booted "Survivor: Africa" contestant Carl Bilancione may have given away who will be kicked next.

While being interviewed, Bilancione made the comment that he and player __________ had to share a bed in the production camp while staying on the Shaba Reserve in Kenya after they exited the game.

Unlike previous instalments, evicted players had to stay on the set until the entire series was completed filming and were not allowed to fly home.

Grooch

Friday, November 16, 2001 - 07:56 pm Click here to edit this post
All I have to say, is that it better not be Ethan.

Karuuna

Friday, November 16, 2001 - 07:59 pm Click here to edit this post
Grooch -- Carl and Ethan sharing a bed? Now that WOULD be a story!

Misslibra

Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 07:07 am Click here to edit this post
Rissa, thanks for the link. You know I had to go take a peak spoiler or not, and was glad to see the name mention wasn't Frank's or Ethan. :)

Whoami

Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 08:49 am Click here to edit this post
Okay, call me stupid or whatever, but how does having to share a bed with someone indicate that they are the next one to get voted off?

This person could have been kicked off at any time, and then shared a bed with Carl. Besides, since Carl was booted, three other people have left. Why didn't he share a bed with one of them? Or with one of the two who went before him? I just don't get how, now that this "spoiler" is revealed, this person is the next one to go.

Sawheel17

Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 08:51 am Click here to edit this post
Thanks, Rissa. Typing as I let out breath sslloowwly. I got worried for a minute when I saw the thread. :)

Karuuna

Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 10:28 am Click here to edit this post
I think the folks booted early get to do different things than the ones booted later (who end up on the jury). I can't remember how many have to stick around to be on the jury, but we ought to be close to that division, right? Can anyone help with the exact numbers?

It makes sense that if a certain number of beds are available, they don't have to double up until it gets crowded?

I'm just ruminating here, judged by my Deadpool standings, so far my ruminations have just been ruinous. :)

Realtvfan

Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 11:28 am Click here to edit this post
Carl is not the first participant to release information about other still-playing contestants, but still you would think that MB would keep better track of these people with assistant producers.

They knew Carl had a big mouth because his big mouth is part of what had him booted off the show so fast. So now they let Carl (and Silas) get up on TV shows or appearances and say what ever they like. If you saw the UK version of Survivor, those people knew how to handle the questions that these people in S3 US have not been prepped to handle.

Also, the S3 production people were so scared that paparazzi were watching the passenger lists of everyone leaving Kenya looking for American names, that the production people were too scared to send those voted "Out-of-Africa" to separate private secluded resorts as they did with S1 and S2. The production folks still should have separated the earlier voted "out-of-Africa" folks from those released later because, the earlier evictees have "no reason to have the knowledge" of who was voted out later and in what order unless they are jury members.

On the other hand, with all the creative mis-direction that MB used in the media and on the Internet for S2, this (Carl and Silas) could all be more intentional mis-direction at a higher level. We shall see.

Some of what Silas said appears to be potentially contradictory information when compared to comments from other less likely to be influenced sources. Namely other's relatives.

Who knows. Sherlock Holmes, I'm not.

Joan

Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 06:20 pm Click here to edit this post
They should be prohibited from saying who they made friends with even because that is very telling.

Gina8642

Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 07:12 pm Click here to edit this post
Thanks for the link Rissa. I saw a reference to this interview before, but they blocked the name, and provided no link to where it might be.

Fruitbat

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 03:17 am Click here to edit this post
Since the word spoiler is in the title of this thread I see no reason not to discuss this openly. That is part of the fun. I would assume those that do not want to know would not enter a thread with this warning.

All we know is that Thersa is not in the final three. There is no reason for her to go ahead of Brandon, both Kims and Clarence. She is strong and well liked. The fact that she had to share a bed says she stays long enough for all the beds to fill.

Car54

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 05:59 am Click here to edit this post
Actually, I think the reason for the speculation is that the early bootees do things together (they travelled together in Australia last yr)

But I think the later bootees who are part of the jury are kept separate from the others. So I think the speculation is that if Teresa and Carl spent time together, she has to go soon, as the merge is close.

Fruitbat

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 06:47 am Click here to edit this post
>>>>> While being interviewed, Bilancione made the
comment that he and player Teresa Cooper
had to share a bed in the production camp
while staying on the Shaba Reserve in Kenya
after they exited the game.

Unlike previous instalments, evicted players
had to stay on the set until the entire series
was completed filming and were not allowed to
fly home. <<<<<<

Fruitbat

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 06:49 am Click here to edit this post
Maybe they made the decision to not allow the bootees to travel for fear of being spotted after production was already rolling and did not create enough space for this possibility.

Neko

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 06:50 am Click here to edit this post
Maybe........He was told by MB to slip-up that little tibit of info. It would be wrong but it would keep people thinking in the wrong direction you know?
Oh well..just an idea!

Karuuna

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 12:16 pm Click here to edit this post
they had to stay on the set? Hmmm, I thought I read somewhere that Jessie went on safari? Too many things here for me to keep them all straight!

Fruitbat

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 12:26 pm Click here to edit this post
I heard she went on Safari after the show ended. They were free to travel at that point. Linda stayed on and did something too.

Llkoolaid

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 12:59 pm Click here to edit this post
Fruitbat I agree with you, what I get from that article if it is true is that Theresa stays a long while, or why would they have her share a bed with Carl. There are 4 women gone and two men, if she was off next week why would they put her in a bed with Carl, that doesn't make sense. What kind of crappy budget did they have that people have to share beds.

Kep421

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 01:13 pm Click here to edit this post
Maybe they wanted to share a bed?

Fruitbat

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 02:21 pm Click here to edit this post
Kool, the only thing I can think of is that she did have a bed and due to a leak in the roof it got soaked and she had to share a bed one night. She and Carl were close and felt comfortable enough to do this. If that is true, my logic is out the window and she could easily be next to go.

No, that cannot be right because she would have shared a bed with Diane. Maybe Carls bed was bigger. *Maybe* we think Carl slipped but *maybe* the producers allowed this to be divulged and *maybe* we are running with this just as they suspected.

The only thing we know for sure is that she is not in the final three.

Car54

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 02:30 pm Click here to edit this post
Isn't the show in a wildlife preserve? I was assuming the safari was in the park they were filming in.

Joan

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 03:05 pm Click here to edit this post
From the post-TC interviews I have seen thus far, Linda toured Africa with some sort of medical unit after being booted and Deb and Jessie went on a safari. I see no reason to assume that this was after the taping ended and not immediately after they were booted.

Ophiliasgrandma

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 03:20 pm Click here to edit this post
I don't believe a word of it. I ran the idea up the old flagpole and it just hung there, not one single flutter. Don't you think old Carl is smart enough to be yanking our chain? It doesn't take a rocket scientest to figure out a way to misdirect the unwashed masses.

Lilliegirl

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 07:27 pm Click here to edit this post
I look at it this way, if Boran wins I dont think they will vote off anyone from there tribe but would vote for either Teresa or Frank because they startd out with them and Frank has taught them how to shoot so I think it will be Teresa even though they may like her but she is not from there tribe.

Fruitbat

Monday, November 19, 2001 - 04:39 am Click here to edit this post
Joan, see my post above. That is from the article in the above link. Not that all articles we read are nesessarily true but it has been stated elsewhere, as well.

Production was afraid that contestants would be spotted before the show ended so kept them sequestered until to avoid leaks as to the identity of the winner.

Kep421

Monday, November 19, 2001 - 04:41 am Click here to edit this post
Hey, Ophiliasgrandma!!!

I wash everyday. Well, almost everyday....

Kitt

Monday, November 19, 2001 - 02:45 pm Click here to edit this post
Wasn't there a link somewhere on this board about Clarence, with him saying he and Tom became great friends after spending time at the Kenyan camp? Either these people were allowed to make things up to throw people off the scent or they haven't read their contracts very well.

Joan

Monday, November 19, 2001 - 03:34 pm Click here to edit this post
Fruitbat, I saw that but I have to question it based on the interviews so far. Also, it could be just bad sentence construction but it seems to imply that on past Survivors, the contestants have been allowed to fly home once they were booted which, AFAIK has never been the case.

Car54

Monday, November 19, 2001 - 04:23 pm Click here to edit this post
Kitt, I think maybe you are thinking of Silas, he named Tom in his early show interview.
Joan, I read today that Lindsay confirmed the group travel in her Entertainment Weekly interview, so I think the group post-boot safari may have happened as you said.

Kitt

Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 03:24 pm Click here to edit this post
Thanks Car, yes it was Silas, not Clarence, but I think he still gave it away that Tom didn't make it to the end, or else why would he be good friends with him (they were never in the same team on the show)?

Car54

Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 03:27 pm Click here to edit this post
Yep, me too- I have been worried about Tom ever since!

Kizz

Saturday, December 01, 2001 - 06:22 pm Click here to edit this post
Karunna I see no one has addressed your question, the first person voted out after the merge is not on the jury...its a seven person jury deciding between 2 people.

Karuuna

Sunday, December 02, 2001 - 03:09 pm Click here to edit this post
Thanks, Kizz! :)