Who do you relate to? Oldies or youngies?

The ClubHouse: Archives: -- GENERAL ARCHIVES --: November: Who do you relate to? Oldies or youngies?

Tillie

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 09:24 pm Click here to edit this post
Now that I'm 40-something person, I can really relate to the "oldies" ethic of getting things done early. But when I was a younger, I might have been like the youngies on the show "when I get up, I'll do it."

I didn't have much time to really be a youngie, because I married early and had my kids early. There was no time to 'do things later' but I can see my kids having this attitude! Maybe that's because I still do *things* for them which is a whole 'nother story.

Is this why some of the youngies appear to be so lazy?

Joan

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 10:05 pm Click here to edit this post
I don't think there are many young people who would side with the Sambrats. Heck, even Kelly and Clarence know that stuff needs to get done. I am 23 and I definitely relate better to the "oldies" work ethic.

I don't think it has anything to do with age. I think age is what brought them together but their individual choices are what made them act like lazy bums. As I said above, just look at the Boran 20-somethings and the "youngies" on the other 2 seasons and you will see that sloth is not an epidemic.

Mahrajah

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 10:26 pm Click here to edit this post
i deff relate to "oldies"..

majority of my friends are above 30 or on 30.. i can relate more to ages above or on 30 for a lot of reasons..

i myself happen to think age is just a # for infolitical purposes it all depends on the person.. not 2 #'s put together for the censussess

Sunshinemiss

Monday, November 19, 2001 - 03:28 am Click here to edit this post
I agree age and work ethics are not related. Some people are just born sloths and remain that way. My ex is a "sleep-slut" (his words) and would rather sleep than about anything. It took 2 very annoying alarm clocks all the way across the room to get him up and even then it was no guarantee.

I have never understood the mind-set of people that can just walk right by something that needs doing (especially if it is their responsibility to do it) and just pretend it isn't there... doubly so when you know there are other people depending on you for that help. Boo.

Give me the old folks anyday (or, more appropriately, the mature folks.) I would be off that show so fast because I would be sooo in their face about the lack of cooperation, I am not known for my tolerance of misbehavior (I have been called both blunt and painfully honest and I personally don't think either of those are bad things, oh well!)

Mindyrama

Monday, November 19, 2001 - 07:55 am Click here to edit this post
This is a tough one. I mean at the beginning I was really put off by Frank's militant behavior, I related more to the youngies in that respect. BUT, once I saw how truly lazy these brats were, I stopped relating. I may be a genXer but I do have decent work ethics. I'd rather get up at the crack of dawn and do what needs to be done. I do think that the 'oldies' handled it wrong. If I had been there I just would have said to the brats that it's fine that they prefer to sleep late, but that they will have to get their own water. There's no way I'd get it for them.

Twiggyish

Monday, November 19, 2001 - 10:40 am Click here to edit this post
I relate to the oldies. Although, I am only 29 and married when I was very very young.

Nessietessie

Monday, November 19, 2001 - 04:32 pm Click here to edit this post
I relate to the oldies, because I am
one of the oldies. I prefer to get the
work done early, and play in the
afternoon and into the night!
I agree with mindyrama, there is no
way I would have gotten the mallrats
water after I saw how they did not
want to do anything or pitch in.
I would have been voted off early by
the mallrats, because I would not
be able to hide my dislike of their
bad behavior.

Llkoolaid

Monday, November 19, 2001 - 05:20 pm Click here to edit this post
The oldies did handle it wrong, if they had of made them fend for themselves I don't think it would have taken them long to be going at each other. The older ones would not have been picked of because the younger ones would not have been united.

Neko

Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 05:56 pm Click here to edit this post
I'm a "millennial"<-----Supposedly..I'm still not sure what I am!LoL
Anyway..I relate to the "oldies" more than the younger "Sam-Brats." I mean...most days, I'd get up early and do the work but some days, I'd ask someone else to do my job and sleep in!Hehehe

Lancecrossfire

Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 06:04 pm Click here to edit this post
I don't relate so much to an age as I do an approach. This time around, it seems that generally the older folks are doing a fair amount of work. Although Ethan, Lex and Clarence are certainly doing as much work as anyone--and they are the same age group as the mallrats.

For them, getting up early to do chores isn't an "old folks' approach. It's an approach to do chores when it's 70-80 instead of doing them when it's 105. I would hope any age group could figure that one out. With only Kim and Brandon left from the rats, I don't hold much hope for them lasting long. I don't see the lazy approach being tolerated.

Llkoolaid

Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 06:29 pm Click here to edit this post
You are right Lance it isn't an age thing, I relate to everyone except the mallrats.

Lilliegirl

Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 08:38 pm Click here to edit this post
Im old as dirt with grandkids. If my daughter which is 30 did what those brats did I would disown her. Just think what there parents must be feeling like, sh*t. You only learn from your parents and as I can see they did not learn nothing, and about the water there is no way in hell I would have gotten it for them. I think Frank did wrong for fending for the brats but im married to a Marine so I can see why he was the way he is. The brats have not been taught how to respect your elders and it comes from there parents. Maybe there parents are the same way, who knows.

Aaronl5

Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 09:16 pm Click here to edit this post
I also don't look at this as and age thing.....i don't relate to the "mallrats" or the "oldies". I fall somewhere in the middle. The oldies had too much work ethics and no fun and the mallrats were just all about fun and no work.

Tillie

Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 09:30 pm Click here to edit this post
My children are younger than the youngies on Survivor - 14, 17 & 21. I was wondering 'what would *they* do' and I think they would sleep as much as the youngies do on the show - if Mom brought the water home, did the chores, etc. They would know that I would take care of them -because that is what I do. [well, not so much for my college kid- she *has* to do her own thing for the most part, of course, she just informed me she hasn't washed her sheets since school started this semester - guess I don't have to worry about overnight 'guests']

I do think the youngies are lazy - but a part of me thinks they are allowing the oldies to take care of them because they do.

Hey Lilliegirl, my husband was a Marine for 21 years. I relate to Frank and I'd want him on my team.

Snee

Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 10:03 pm Click here to edit this post
hehehe, no overnight guests! hehehehe! *snickles and holds her nose* umm, wait...when was the last time i changed my sheets? *wanders away doing less snickling* heh. heh. heh...

Resortgirl

Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 06:55 am Click here to edit this post
I relate to both groups. Oldies for their work ethic, and youngsters for there fun ethic. I would rather get the work out of the way first thing and then Party!
I guess I am a middle aged teenager!
Oh, Lance by the way, I think Lex is 38 so he would really be in the Oldies category. Don't ya think?

Misslibra

Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 07:50 am Click here to edit this post
I think I relate to the mature group more, their maturity is their asset, they take care of business, they are not lazy, and know what the concept of this game is about.

The children, don't have a clue... well I'll take that back, they know how to form alliances, but they don't seem to know how to communicate, or get along with anyone other then the people in their group, which i think is a big mistake on their part. And their attitudes suck big time. And when I say children I'm only speaking of Brandon and Kim, their group.

Even though Clarence, Ethan and Kelly are young, they are a lot more mature then Brandon's group. So It depends on ones behavior and actions, rather then their age.

BTW their not oldies, their just more mature. :)

Dahli

Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 05:38 pm Click here to edit this post
The young'uns do appear to be those that have mothers who 'did anything and everything for them'
and it's pretty obvious that is doing no one any favours, them especially! They're not called brats for nothin' people

Lilliegirl

Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 06:27 pm Click here to edit this post
Resortgirl, I can not believe you would think Lex 38 as an oldies, Lex is married with kids but it does not make him old, he is mature just like Kelly,Clarence, but they happen to be younger.Tillie my husband fought in the vietnam war,he was over there for four years, that was hell so I can see why Frank is the way he is.I never bought my daughter a car ,she got a job and bought it herself and she went to summer school in the 11th grade so she could grad. early .Lindsey I think is 28 so why would she be acting like a brat at this age, you would think Clarence who is 23 would be the brat.

Resortgirl

Thursday, November 22, 2001 - 06:50 am Click here to edit this post
Lilliegirl,
I don't think Lex is old at 38, I'm 41 and don't think I'm old. He just is closer in age to Frank and Theresa then to Lindsey, Brandon or Kim. I LOVE Lex!
He just has a work ethic that is more prominent in the "oldies".
My kids are 19 and 23 and they both have worked hard for what they have. It depends on ones upbringing and values. I wonder if Lindsey and Brandons parents are proud of their little brats!??

Lilliegirl

Thursday, November 22, 2001 - 08:08 pm Click here to edit this post
LOL Resortgirl, what do you think of Lex now. If I were there parents I would never tell the world I would hide my face in shame for raising these brats.

Resortgirl

Friday, November 23, 2001 - 05:18 am Click here to edit this post
I honestly don't know why everyone is so mad at Lex. I didn't see him doing anything wrong last night. If however, he gets nasty about who voted for him at tribal counsel I may change my opinion about him. He is the one who told Clarence "although it's cliche, it's a game" So he better be able to handle a vote.

As far as Lex leading the rest into their vote for Clarence, someone has to lead and the rest blindly followed so they have only themselves to blame (and their supporters should acknowlege their weakness instead of coming down on Lex)

As always, just my opinion :-)

Micknrc

Friday, November 23, 2001 - 05:41 am Click here to edit this post
Right on, RG! If anything, Lex's biggest mistake was to be so open ("man-to-man') about what was going on....
He also needs to start flying a wee bit below the radar--he's setting himself up as a target if he keeps being so open about all his plans...

Resortgirl

Friday, November 23, 2001 - 06:00 am Click here to edit this post
I think Lex THOUGHT that was the honorable thing to do and it backfired! I wouldn't have done it if I were in his place, but I don't think it was a malicious act on his part. I think he was doing what he would want to be done if the tables were turned. Unfortunately it seems that that day is coming sooner rather then later. I still like Lex, for his hard work, his pleasant demeanor... but there may be a few chinks in his armor that we haven't been shown before last night.

Same goes for Kelly... she seemed to be a nice girl but what a B%#ch she was last night. ewwwww!

Quietstorm4

Friday, November 23, 2001 - 11:00 am Click here to edit this post
I'm not a big fan of Lex's, but I also don't see what he did that was so wrong LAST NIGHT. It does seem that he will get a little hateful next week, and if so then it's time for him to go!!!

Lancecrossfire

Friday, November 23, 2001 - 02:34 pm Click here to edit this post
I'm curious why anyone would think it's not a problem with what Lex said in the previews they showed.

I want to know who voted for me...I'm going to cut their head off.

That's not taking it personal??? He makes Jordan from BB1 seem like a stable person about who nominated her. I thought what Lex did last night was a nice gesture---until I heard the previews. No way was it "nothing personal". It's very personal to Lex. His actions indicate there is a good chance he was really rubbing Clarence's face in it. Lex can't take getting a vote so personally without giving them the same way.

Resortgirl

Friday, November 23, 2001 - 05:19 pm Click here to edit this post
Well Lance, From the looks of it Clarence didn't feel like his nose was rubbed in it, < but on the Early show, Clarence said he was GLAD he was told- it allowed him to spend the last few hours getting to know everyone. >

Jeez you people are like witch hunters or something!

Lancecrossfire

Friday, November 23, 2001 - 05:25 pm Click here to edit this post
Like I said RG, the option I give is just that--an option based on what they show for Lex next week. Before that, I completely thought Lex was being a stand up guy. And it's till possible he is.

I hold that both could be possible. Some won't even give the negative option any chance of being true.

I'd be glad I was told as well. I might be less respectful if the person did it to rub my nose in it, but I'd still appreciate hearing about it before it happened.

Lex said it wasn't personal either--yet the clips show him taking personal when it came to him. Are we to just ignore that??

Weinermr

Friday, November 23, 2001 - 05:27 pm Click here to edit this post
I don't think Lex taking Clarence aside to tell him he was voted off was a particularly nice or honorable thing to do. Lex did not respect Clarence at all. He was one of the group dissing Clarence behind his back while Clarence was putting every ounce of effort into the immunity challenge. And Lex was one of the most vocal anti-Clarence people in the original beans and cherries incidents.

Just because Clarence took it well, doesn't make the act a kind one or an honorable one. Lex wasn't being truthful about how he felt about Clarence. Good for Clarence that he turned it into a chance to bond with people one more time before he was ousted.

Resortgirl

Friday, November 23, 2001 - 05:38 pm Click here to edit this post
Lance, I wrote this earlier today in another thread < If however, he gets nasty about who voted for him at tribal counsel I may change my opinion about him. He is the one who told Clarence "although it's cliche, it's a game" So he better be able to handle a vote.>

So you see I am willing to give the negative option a chance to be true, but I will reserve judgement until such time it is proven to be true. OK???

Resortgirl

Friday, November 23, 2001 - 05:41 pm Click here to edit this post
wiener... I think Tom was the most vocal on the bean incident. We barely heard from Lex till they swapped. And we've heard Ethan begging to vote of Clarence in the past.

Lancecrossfire

Friday, November 23, 2001 - 05:51 pm Click here to edit this post
RG--I agree with you about Tom and Ethan being more vocal--at least at the beginning. Lex was dissing Clarence pretty good last night during the IC. Although I can chalk that up to normal competition possibly.

True, you did say you would feel differently if Lex is being a jerk. Maybe I was just so surprised that Lex would even say those things to begin with--maybe he just let me down. Up till then, I thought he was playing the game better than just about anyone--including how he was playing.

I'm more bothered at Kelly for her comments than I am at Lex. Kelly's comments span a personality type that exists all over. Introverts that are jerks are not that way because they are introverts. She seems to think otherwise. Or she just thinks the world should e without them.

Of course we don't get to hear everything said, so we never know the bad or good stuff that doesn't make the show. One of the nicest things I've heard said on any of the Survivor shows was what Clarence said about Theresa at the IC. That is the kind of thing that great competition is all about. I hope everyone of them gets to experience something like that.

Resortgirl

Friday, November 23, 2001 - 05:55 pm Click here to edit this post
Lance, I must of been taking a potty break when Lex was dissing Clarence... if so my sincere apologies!