That's it, I'm through with "Survivor"
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That's it, I'm through with "Survivor"
Ocean_Islands | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 04:43 am   Drinking cattle blood? Do I need this? No. I'm through with Survivor for good. I know people in Africa must drink cattle blood to survive, or something. But I don't consider this entertainment. On top of the fact that Survivor's virtually 100% white faced crew is a sad commentary on a show set in Africa. I have to admit I was pretty much over this show after the starvation tactics last year. |
Chippy | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 06:44 am   Ah, c'mon OI! It's just blood. Blood is cool- ya can't live without it and it's chockful of oxygen, hemoglobin, protein, minerals, etc. Doesn't taste that bad either. And hay, they used an alcohol swab before shooting the cow with the arrow- alcohol swabs in the jungles of Africa- now, that cracked me up. So, stay with us here- the gross you out eating challenge is over. I thought it was lame in comparison to the bull balls and goat eyes from Fear Factor. LOL |
Kayewer | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 06:59 am   After reading your post, I guess you're upset not just about the blood part, but about the idea that the contestants are "strangers in a strange land" and the crew, in your opinion, maybe wasn't hired from local talent. Sorry you didn't like that, but I think that if, say, a Japanese show were being filmed in America, they would want a Japanese film crew to come with them, rather than hire an American crew. It's about keeping the feel of the film and communicating with each other better, and I don't think it was meant to slight anybody. I taped last night's show, but I think it'll be interesting to see, judging by the comments on the boards so far. |
Ocean_Islands | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 08:08 am   I wasn't that grossed out actually. I've eaten blood sausage and having lived in France you can't be too squeamish, let me tell you, from calf heads, brains, and blood dripping rabbits at the market to whole boars (as yet unbutchered)hanging on a hook outside my local butcher. When I said 'crew' I mean 'cast'. I just decided that I don't need this show. I thought that bit about the cow was pretty dishonest. Cows are butchered for food. "This animal wasn't hurt." Who's kidding who? Not that this bothers me, but the whole show stinks of phoniness, from the cow band-aid to the Hollywood stand-ins to the spliced-in shots of wildlife at commercial breaks. |
Llkoolaid | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 08:10 am   What do you mean Hollywood stand ins? |
Crazydog | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 08:26 am   Ocean, sorry but I disagree with your comment about the fact that there are too few blacks among the survivors. There are 2, Clarence and Linda, which is 12.5% which I think is roughly the demographic makeup in the US. The producers receive thousands of applications and hopefully are choosing on who is the best candidate. Just because the show is set in Africa does not mean that there should be many more blacks in the cast. There have been two black cast members in each of the two previous Survivors. I always thought the great thing about Survivor is that the tribe members always seemed to be colorblind (up until now apparently with Tom). Other minority groups have been much more underrepresented on reality shows. Using your logic, the cast of Survivor I should have been 50% Asian since it was filmed in Indonesia. There have been no Asians on any of the Survivors. There was one in the two Big Brothers, Curtis, who was a stereotypical geek. (I don't count Nicole, who is half-Asian, because most of America doesn't even realize it. The only way I knew is by reading this website.) Jessie is the first Hispanic to be on any of the Survivors or Big Brother, even though Hispanics are now the largest and fastest growing minority group in America. For Native Americans, we get Kel, a loner who alienated his teammates. I'm not trying to start an argument, I'm just trying to point out facts. |
Roe325 | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 08:42 am   Ocean, I agree with you about the cast. there is always a black man that they stereo type as lazy, and now this one they are playing him up as a thief. then there is always the red neck who hates everyone who is not like him. And I could care less if they drink blood, in Puerto Rico I watched as the woman made blood sausage, did I eat them? no way, but I at the rest of the pig, skin and all! I just didn't appreciate watching the bull squirm when he was stuck with the stick. I can still remember the squeals of that pig they butchered in Puerto Rico and I can still see the head separated from the body of the hen on my mother in laws kitchen counter. Most people in this country have never seen this kind of stuff and would find it upsetting. I found it upsetting. so I am sure they will get some complaints about it. |
Rachelinsc | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 08:46 am   This is a hot topic on message boards recently (the racial make-up of reality show casts). I have yet to see anyone who is unhappy with the current make-up stating exactly how many minority members each cast should have. I like diverse casts, but I think a strict percentage (a la affirmative action) would ruin everything. As for getting blood from the cow, I don't think that the action was cruel. I have given several pints of blood and have never been seriously injured. The blood from the cow was probably a healthy snack for everyone. |
Grooch | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 08:54 am   I think that MTV does a good job at getting diverse casts. What I need is a cast where everone looks so different from everyone else, that they are easy to differentiate in the beginning shows. I still can't tell most of the girls apart. Except for Jessie (now gone and Linda) But Kim P, Lindsey, Kelly and even Teresa all look alike to me until I get to know them better. |
Llkoolaid | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 08:59 am   I am still trying to learn who is who, the people that are not getting a lot of airtime are hard to keep straight |
Zed | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 05:49 pm   <I thought that bit about the cow was pretty dishonest. Cows are butchered for food. "This animal wasn't hurt." Who's kidding who?> O_I- I respectfully disagree with this statement....cows are not butchered for food in this part of Africa. The Masai actually do not eat meat, but use the cattle only for blood to drink and to breed for more cattle. Having cattle is like money to these folks...they use them for wedding dowerys, to trade for other goods etc. Masai cattle vary considerable due to the centuries old practice of stealing cattle from neighboring tribes. This is sanctioned by the Masai legend with relates that Ngai (God) sent them cattle at the beginning of time and gave them the sole right to keep them. They are the most highly prized of all Masai possessions. |
Twiggyish | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 06:58 pm   Ok, I would have asked if the arrow was clean. Jeff stirred the blood with it, before they all drank. Yes, they swabbed the cow, but did they sterilize the arrow? |
Joan | Friday, October 19, 2001 - 08:41 pm   Twiggyish, why do I not think that after drinking out of mouldy gourds and eating off of rusty can lids, they would care about a sterile arrow stirring their drinks? |
Ocean_Islands | Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 04:00 am   Well not to beat a dead horse, but if you got an arrow stuck in your jugular vein, would you feel hurt, or not feel hurt? So maybe they did not eat the cow. |
Sawheel17 | Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 07:22 am   They did this blood drinking thing on Real World also. Two of the guys refused to go through the ceremony. One of the girls was going to refuse but decided to go along with the ceremony.After it was over, she said she was glad she did it because it helped her understand their culture and reasoning for it. On that show, they stuck the cow wth a stick. I have to agree about that cotton swab bit on Survivor, that was funny. Oh wait a minute, my mistake....It was Road Rules. |
Twiggyish | Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 01:28 pm   Joan, so true..LOL |
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