Survivor Insider: Episode 6

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Joan

Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 10:42 am Click here to edit this post
Tom tells all about Lindsey—Tom says that Lindsey “farts like a bay mule” and when they went to wash, Tom told her she had better wash her ass because any woman who farts like her is “bound to have dingleberries big as coconuts” or “cheesecake” up there or something. (Oh the quality of some of these clips! lol) He offered to wash her butt for her and was surprised that that didn’t offend her at all. He said “now there’s a blonde-haired girl that could care less!” He bets she could fart any man out of bed. He says “That woman don’t care! She’ll shit on you! She gets me, I’ll shit back on her!” You can hear the cameraman cracking up in the background. Kelly taught Lindsey to crochet and Tom says you can tell she’s an athlete because she picked up on it right away. She made Tom an ankle bracelet which he has hanging from his belt because he refuses to put it on his foot. He doesn’t wear jewelry because he doesn’t try to look like a girl. He nonetheless saw it as a nice gesture, is proud to have it and will keep it on his shorts as a good luck charm. His son is 18 and wanted to wear a necklace. Tom told him fine but if some man comes up to you and wants to do something, don’t come running home to me because you chose to look like a girl and so you should expect to get treated like one. This is the way things are back home and this is the way he was brought up which is why he has a hard time with Brandon.

Brandon panics about strategy—Brandon talks about how he spent the last night really thoroughly reading “that book” (I assume the survival guide) and is very confident. He says “Do me a favour Linds? Don’t worry today. It’s going to be me so stop worrying.” Lindsey says ok, she just wants to be there for 9 more days. The camera cuts to Brandon, Lindsey and Kim standing around. Brandon says he doesn’t believe there is anything Tom could beat him on unless it is Latin words. He goes on to say he doesn’t think they believe what MamaKim told them and Lindsey cautions him to whisper and smacks his hands down when he gestures. Brandon says he doesn’t think the ex-Boran believe the signs MamaKim was giving anymore because Brandon was talking to one of the guys and he (Lex?) said that they come in with no votes. Brandon asked whether he was expecting him to reveal who had votes and he said no, they have already had people trying to do that but “it is coming in different from everybody.” This leads Brandon to believe that the ex-Boran have observed how tight Frank and T seem to be with their new tribe and thus have started to distrust the other tribe. Brandon figures with the misleading he and the girls have been working on, the ex-Boran are most likely to guess that Brandon got a vote from Frank. Kim figures that this is why they are “sitting so pretty,” because they are voting for Brandon and are confident that Brandon has a vote. Brandon goes on to say that while they were all at the watering hole, he said something about the merge and Kelly and “him” (Lex?) snickered in an evil way making Brandon think they plan to vote for him. Lindsey asks Brandon what if the ex-Boran approached him with a guarantee that he would go further in the game if he voted for Lindsey. Immediately Brandon says “It’s not in my nature, I wouldn’t do it.” (Obviously trying to see if he would do to her what she is thinking of doing to him.) Lindsey asks him to be honest, if he was going to get voted out tonight, wouldn’t he vote for her to go farther. Brandon again tells her that that is not his nature and “I’m not going to look like a big ass on TV and that is what it comes down to.” (He does have great insight sometimes.) The camera skips a little and then Brandon remarks that that seems so unlike them because they seem so sweet. Lindsey says they told her if you say you are going to and you don’t, you’ll be the next one voted out. “And you said?” asks Brandon. Lindsey tells him she told them she needed time to think about it just because she had been put on the spot. She came back to the hut and Kim told her that Big Tom had said the same thing to her. Brandon tells them he hopes they don’t vote with the ex-Boran because he wouldn’t do it to them but he doesn’t think they even need to talk about it because he doesn’t think they would do it. Kim says she wouldn’t and Lindsey says it makes her sick to think of coming back without Brandon just to save her own ass.

Clarence on the softer side of Frank—Clarence marvels over the fact that because they won immunity, someone is going to the merger who otherwise wouldn’t. He is impressed that all because of Ethan, someone gets to say 3 more days. He then corrects himself saying he hit a target as did Kim and it really was “a total team effort” but his hat is off to Ethan. Frank didn’t hit anything during the challenge and this really bothers him because Frank is a “bow conisseur.” He has all the latest bows and he is the one who taught everyone else. Ironically, Ethan had never even picked up a bow until that morning when Frank was teaching them. Everyone was teasing Frank that he had spent so much time teaching the others that he had forgot to practise himself. Without Frank, they would never have won because “he literally taught us like children”—steps, finger positions, aiming, etc. Unfortunately, he really didn’t get enough practise himself because of this. Clarence really likes Frank because he is “honourable” and straightforward and “has the whole red-blooded American male thing going on.” He says the softer side of Frank comes out when he speaks of his family. Frank seems like the kind of guy who sowed his wild oats and ran around early on in life but dove right in when it was time to start a family. The best times in his life, according to Frank, are right now. Frank lives on a big piece of land away from the city where “a spade is a spade.” Clarence finds it hard to believe that Frank strikes people the wrong way but he guesses he can see that. He doesn’t know Frank well enough to say he respects him but he can say he respects what little he knows about him. Clarence doesn’t think you can say you respect anyone out there because you have no idea what they are like in their day to day lives. He was arguing with MamaKim about that because she feels out there you get to see what people are really like. He thinks Survivor is like “an overexaggerated poker game” where you are trying to bluff, cheat, etc. but at the end of the day, you walk away friends. He thinks good people could do all kinds of dishonest things out there to win. Survivor is not a microcosm of who everyone is for him.

Frank tells how to pluck and gut a chicken—Frank explains to Kim and Clarence what to do once they kill the chicken. They need to put the blood and feathers in a hole they have dug away from camp and then wash it off with drinking water. Frank selects a chicken and explains that he and Kim will harvest it by cutting the neck off with a machete and bleeding the body. Kim holds the chicken and Frank chops as Ethan looks on grimacing. Kim then holds the chicken over the hole as Frank, Ethan and Clarence watch. The chicken is still moving in Kim’s hands as she does this. Ethan and Kim pluck it. That night Frank roasts it over the fire. Ethan thanks the earth, the chicken and the “chicken’s friends” as he eats. He has not had much chicken in his life but from what he can remember this is “f***in good f***in chicken.”

Frank’s embarrassing moment—Frank explains that Theresa and Ethan got the tree mail for the immunity challenge and as he was working on the chicken coop, he could hear them coming back into camp saying his name. Archery is a hobby of his and he likes to hunt so everyone was all excited that they were going to win the challenge because of Frank. Frank said he got the baskets out and, with safety as the primary focus, he taught them all and “they were excellent students, they paid attention, they practiced and they got good.” Everyone was very upbeat about it. When they got to the challenge, Samburu gained the upper hand right away by hitting a target and Frank, the 5th and last shooter, missed which put him into shock. Frank chuckles saying “my excellent students” did just as they had been doing and hit the targets while he, the instructor, missed every one. He is very embarrassed he missed all 4 shots he had and he knows he will be ridiculed and have to live with this for a long time when he gets home but he still enjoyed the team’s victory.

Kim P. asserts her vulnerability—Kim is anxious to go to the reward challenge and find out who Boran voted off. She wonders if Boran picked an ex-Samburu off, does that mean she and her group are more vulnerable? If they pick an ex-Boran person off, does that mean they are ahead? She decides it doesn’t really. She said if it were up to her, she’d vote Frank off because he is too much of a threat to the young group and she thinks he would stab Samburu in the back before he would do anything else. (Can you actually stab someone in the back if you never pretended to be with them to start with?) She would love to see Silas make it. She isn’t going to be upset if Frank didn’t get voted off because she figures he is Samburu and it might help them to have him around later. If Silas isn’t there, she will be upset though. She will feel bad for him and more vulnerable herself. The past few days have been rough because they had all kinds of problems with Samburu being split but, by luck, they got over that with Doc losing out and the vision of the tribe changed and they thought they were doing ok and had beaten the split problems but then suddenly everything she thought was ok wasn’t and she was afraid of being picked off again (They got over the split? What show is she watching?). She is very stressed over trying to protect Lindsey but not really wanting to get votes against herself either but then again, she gave her word to Lindsey… She is anxious to see what happens.

Kelly reveals what’s behind her poker face—Kelly likes Lindsey and figures she didn’t give her enough credit. She knew Lindsey cried a lot and didn’t think that she was fit to be out there but Lindsey is funny and nice and she is happy to be able to hang out with people who are closer to her own age. They talked about girl stuff and Lindsey really wants girls to do well in Survivor which was refreshing for Kelly to hear because she didn’t get that a lot in Boran. Lindsey probably told her too much because Kelly still has loyalties to her old tribe and Lindsey was telling who all had votes against them. Kelly realizes she could have just been lying and manipulating but Kelly was lying back so oh well. She feels bad but she can’t totally trust the new people yet. Lindsey hinted that Bradon, Theresa and Frank all have votes against them and that she, Kim and Silas have no votes. Lindsey was trying to get the scoop on Lex and Tom and Kelly led her to believe Lex had votes just so the group would have someone to direct their votes against at TC since Kelly knows it’ll be a wash anyway and at least they won’t be directed at her. She also told Lindsey that MamaKim has votes in an attempt to throw her off should Lindsey try to communicate something to her old tribemates. If they make it to the merge, she’ll “fess up” about it and she’s sure Lindsey will understand. She is interested to see who Boran voted off and she almost feels that it would have been easier had the new Samburu gone to TC since none of her group has votes. Clarence had mentioned to her that he planned to side with Silas after the merge so she can totally see that having happened over at Boran and Kim could have sided with T. She would be “ecstatic” if Frank was gone because the Samburu girls make it sound like he had one foot out the door already but then again, she doesn’t think T and Silas would turn against him. She knows Clarence doesn’t like Ethan so she doubts Clarence will stick with Kim and Ethan. If Kim or Ethan is gone, she’ll be “bummed” and be more worried about herself. “Frank sounds like a jerk so I hope he’s out of there!” She plans to keep her poker face on until she leaves which she hopes will be on the last day. She doesn’t care if the new girls are her “soulmate best friend,” that isn’t going to stand in her way of winning. She knows it is working too because they have been trying to get her into their alliance and have promised to vote off whomever she wants. The merge will be hard for her though because Clarence thinks she’s with him, the girls might think she’s with them and then the remaining Boran people will think she’s with them and she figures it will be hard to keep people from thinking she is playing a bunch of different angles. She really isn’t, she just wants to win and is trying to facilitate that.

Tom’s thumb: the dog ate it!—The scene opens with Tom’s toe and Brandon asks if there is something wrong with it. Kim says yeah, a cow stepped on it right before Tom came out there and it twisted. Tom said “this only hurt for a little bit, like 5 days.” Kelly encourages him to tell the story about what happened to his thumb because it’s funny. He had a plastic pipe and gave his boy--not his son, someone else--a knife to cut it. Tom had gloves on because it was cold but when the boy cut the pipe, he cut his thumb off. At first the boy didn’t believe him so he took his glove off and the “meat” fell out. Tom was too busy looking at it to remember he had a dog with him and before he could do anything, the dog ate his thumb. He went to the ICU and the Dr. asked where the rest of his thumb was and he said “It’s in the truck.” The Dr. asked where in the truck and Tom said “In the dog.” They ended up taking a piece of the inside of his upper arm to fix it and now he just tells people the scar is from being a gunner in Vietnam. The grafted chunk stays “crinkled” all the time and Tom tells them you don’t realize how often you use that part of your thumb. (It doesn’t look like it was his whole thumb, just a piece from the side.)

Strange bedfellows: young Samburu—Kim suggests that each of the group vote for one of the ex-Boran so that each of them gets a vote. Brandon asks why they would do that because if the ex-Boran vote together, one of them is gone. Kim shakes her head and says she was just thinking their vote would be split. Brandon says they will vote together and if young Samburu doesn’t, he is gone no matter what. Kim says she knows but she was just trying to think of a way to “get their one.” (I think this only makes sense to Kim. Hehe) Lindsey gives her a disgusted look and says “That’s not even a question! No!” Brandon says they all have to vote together and Lindsey thinks maybe he could talk to T and find out if any of the ex-Boran have votes. Brandon says he and Kelly were just talking and he thinks all the votes went to Clarence. Lindsey thinks he’s right. Brandon figures Diane voted for Clarence and that none of the ex-Boran has votes. He says they have to win tomorrow and he doesn’t care if they are bloody when it’s over. They then start getting into bed and Brandon tells Kim to scoot over close to “Cootie girl” so he doesn’t have to be near the edge. Lindsey shrieks and protests having cooties. Brandon says she has cooties because “you were sleeping with Silas.” She then expresses her surprise that he is gone. They tell her they know and she says “How do you guys really feel? I mean, do you care?” Brandon says to be honest he does because he liked Silas and Silas was a big guy, their safety net, but there isn’t anything he can do about it.

Tribal Council vote cam: Lindsey’s out—Brandon votes for Big Tom saying he admits, he himself is probably going to be gone tonight but in the event of a tie, Tom is the only one he thinks he has a chance to beat with the questions and even that he is not sure of. He whispers “I’m sorry” and grimaces. Tom votes for Lindsey and says it was a hard decision and “now I guess I’ll be the only one that expels that gas every morning” (No wonder they didn’t show him voting on TV! lol) Lex votes for Lindsey saying she is a “super cool chick” and it has been great getting to know her but “it’s time to go.” Kelly votes saying “I really hope this works.” She is voting for Lindsey for a lot of reasons, she doesn’t think she’s trustworthy, she’s a far better athlete than Kelly, and, she says with a smile, “you told me you got votes already.” Lindsey votes for Tom saying “I hate this game” and she hates voting for Tom, she’d rather vote for herself and “this is miserable.” Kim votes telling “Big Bear” she will miss him a lot, has learned a lot from him and would really like to come out and see him on his farm.

Aussiecoppin

Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 11:17 am Click here to edit this post
Once again, Joan..a big thank you for posting this info for all of us...it was interesting about Toms dicussions..lol

Snee

Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 11:18 am Click here to edit this post
thanks again, joan!

btw, lindsey told kelly that she (lindsey) had votes already? i thought kelly figured that out by overhearing the conversation between lindsey, kelly, and brandon...??

Whoami

Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 11:19 am Click here to edit this post
Thanks Joan. I always enjoy reading your insider postings!

Big Tom has never heard a woman fart like that? Ummm, well I guess he's never been around me or my mom! And why does he think women shouldn't expel loudly if they need to? Geez, if I held it in, I'd blow up!

Sawheel17

Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 11:29 am Click here to edit this post
Thanks Joan. I thought I might be losing it when I posted on the Kelly thread but from reading this, I think I was right. :)

Realtvfan

Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 11:33 am Click here to edit this post
Finally, a reason for me to appreciate that I too spent money on the Insider feeds.

Hearing the cameraman lose his composure and start laughing in the background was in and of itself very funny.

Peachie

Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 11:44 am Click here to edit this post
LOL Whoami. Thanks Joan, always appreciate the insider info you give us. You are great.

Lancecrossfire

Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 11:56 am Click here to edit this post
Joan, thanks much for the summary. It's god information, and expands on things everyone has been wondering about.

Meme9

Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 03:32 pm Click here to edit this post
Thank you so much Joan for taking the time to type that all out for us. Bless you.

Tntitanfan

Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 04:42 pm Click here to edit this post
What a nice thing you do to catch us all up like this! It is such fun to know a little of what goes on behind the scenes! I think Kelly overheard Brandon's conversation about Lindsay having votes. At least Lindsay thought she did and was really pi&&ed at him!

Sukii1

Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 08:41 pm Click here to edit this post
Thank you so much Joan!! I love reading these! It's like peeking in the tribes back door LOL

Lilliegirl

Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 09:30 pm Click here to edit this post
Thanks again Joan. Whomai women were taught not to fart in public at an early age and I still dont do it, men will hike there legs up and fart and think that is the greatest they have ever done. Sorry no farts here and then again im lying.

Whoami

Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 10:09 pm Click here to edit this post
Lilligirl,

Well, men usually don't fart "generously" in public either! I sure don't! But when you are with someone for an extended period of time (like in Survivor, BB or whatever) you just HAVE to let go! I've seen many relationships where it is considered progress to feel comfortable to fart in front of each other!

After posting my previous message, I remembered something. Big Tom would much rather have someone like Lindsey (or my mom or I) around than someone like my sister. You never hear her, but MAN do you ever know she was there!!!

Fruitbat

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 03:51 am Click here to edit this post
Thanks so much Joan.

Judy

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 07:35 am Click here to edit this post
I don't think Tom thinks it's wrong for women to fart. I think he was talking about her attitude about it....you know instead of walking a little away from the group--or saying excuse me...she just lets em rip and"don't care"

Kep421

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 01:07 pm Click here to edit this post
I'm far from 4 yrs old, so why is this converstation making me laugh?!?!?!

Car54

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 02:51 pm Click here to edit this post
ok, ok, enough with the farting....<oh, I feel like a kindergarten teacher there>:)

Lindsay is gone, and as far as we know her gas problem was not the reason she was voted.

What else do we now see because of this Insider?

1. Kelly is VERY smart. I think she has the ability to go very far. Her degee in human behavior is serving her well. Interesting how she tried to rat Lex out by making the brats think he had votes.
2. KimP may have known how to get fire, but she is not too people smart. She seems not to be a very strategic thinker. Reminds me of Amber- a follower. The "lets each vote for one of the Borans was pretty dumb.
3. Brandon is probably smarter than we think. He is also not as evil as we have all been saying-he totally put himself on the line for Lindsay. Despite Kelly's mis-direction, he figured out that none of the traded Borans had votes.

Chance

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 03:51 pm Click here to edit this post
I want to add my thanks, again, to Joan. One of my biggest gripes about survivor2/3 is the lack of getting to know the people. I find the personal stuff way more interesting than some of the challenges. Insider gives us what the show doesn't (well not as much anyway) and I really enjoy the interactions. So thanks again Joan for keeping us updated. ;-)

Egbok

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 04:11 pm Click here to edit this post
Joan, my heartfelt thanks once again. You are wonderful for providing these summaries!!

Joan =

Sunshinemiss

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 05:30 pm Click here to edit this post
Thanks Joan! Appreciate the time and effort for those of us low-tech non-feed-available Webtv'ers.

Lilliegirl

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 06:41 pm Click here to edit this post
Car54 I dont care how smart Kelly,Kim,Brandon is, remember its all a game so I will have a fartin good time posting.

Car54

Monday, November 19, 2001 - 04:39 am Click here to edit this post
lol lilliegirl! \
<guess we just have to rename this the Stinky thread>

Joan

Monday, November 19, 2001 - 03:40 pm Click here to edit this post
Speaking of stinky Car54, I just read on Lindsey's profile over at CBS.com that she doesn't have the sense of smell. LOL Maybe that explains her willingness to let things rip! Ew!