Archive through December 07, 2001

The ClubHouse: Archives: Episode 8******: Archive through December 07, 2001

Yuhuru

Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 06:24 pm Click here to edit this post
o.k. someone has to explain this to me. Now what did Brandon gain??? If he's with Lex, he's the 5th guy and if his with original Samburu + Kelly he's 5th & maybe he could be fourth. I'm confused. I just don't get it. Not to mention that I'm pissed that Lex isn't gone. Ethan is actually growing on me. He was really cute in the village, but I'm still pissed about CLarence. I don't believe what I'm about to say...I think I want Frank to win.

Yuhuru

Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 06:26 pm Click here to edit this post
I think you guys were explaining while I was typing, which I don't do very fast, but I still don't understand why Brandon did it.

Car54

Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 06:36 pm Click here to edit this post
Brandon gains nothing....if things are as we think, he was promised to be in the final 5- L/E/T/Kj/B instead of Kelly. BUT....when they are down to 5 he is a turncoat, not a Boran, he is first out. Makes no sense.

UNLESS....here is a thought... a remote, evil thought.... but what if...the Brandon cross-over was the only thing the Samburus could do... and it is all a plan....
The teams were 5-Boran vs 4 Samburu. Clear majority...let the pagonging begin.
But if the Samburus can somehow get the Borans to oust one of their own instead...... the teams are EVEN again... AND.. only Frank has a vote on Samburu.
Tom has 3, Lex has 6- any confrontation with the Samburus, Brandon switches back, SAMMY WINS...

Oh,,, that would be soo cool if they were that smart.

Hippyt

Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 07:24 pm Click here to edit this post
I don't think they're that smart,lol!
Is Lex an idiot or what? He is! No,I mean it,he's a total moron.
He's a persuasive moron though to get his entire team to vote against one of their own on "his gut."
I stank in Deadpool too,although I did vote for Lex to stay,so that I at least got right.

Twiggyish

Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 07:38 pm Click here to edit this post
Well, I got Ethan right but messed up on Frank.
sheesh..

Kelly was a complete surprise to me.

Llkoolaid

Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 07:47 pm Click here to edit this post
Surely to God Brandon is smart enough to do just that Car, if he stays with Lex he is 5th and no further, if he goes back to Samburu and says I really didn't trust Kelly so decided to get rid of her first and leave Lex with a bunch of votes. They would be a pretty stupid bunch if the didn't figure Tom or Lex was gone next week depending on who wins immunity if Brandon goes back with Boran.
I hate it when they just pick one team off, I hope there is a lot of stuff going on. I still think the 2 Kims and Ethan have something going on.

Urgrace

Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 08:28 pm Click here to edit this post
You could be on the right track! Maybe Brandon did decided to vote with Lex for the sake of the Sambrats! I haven't seen Brandon 'go along' with someone else's plotting since Silas left their camp for Boran. You can see the gears turning every time they show Brandon on camera. Lex apparently thinks that Brandon is seemingly not a threat to him. Most of the tribe has seen what a jerk Lex has been this last week, and with votes against him, the Sambrats have the first real opportunity to oust the Borans! Teresa, Frank, youngKim, possibly Brandon can beat MamaKim, Ethan, Tom and for sure Lex, IF Brandon jumps back to his original tribe. Now the question is does Brandon know he is still the swing vote? He knew before voting for Kelly, but will he realize how crucial his choice will be now? He knows that Lex thought he was only worthy of fifth place. I think we will see more of the plotting than we ever have before. Also, if MamaKim was in an alliance with Kelly, now she will have to try to alliance with someone else. Is she with the original Borans, or will she jump to the other side? Like Brandon, she is not going to make it very far unless she aligns herself with the winning side of the tribe!

Okay, now tell me where my thinking is mush.... Is MamaKim already aligned with youngKim, Ethan? Why youngKim?

Kitty

Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 09:46 pm Click here to edit this post
Glad to see Kelly get the ol' heave ho. She deserved it. Will this be to Lex's advantage in the long run?

How will the rest of Boran react when they find out that it was really Teresa that they were after and because of Lex, they voted off one of their own? Will they be p*****d or will they be gald that they got rid of one of their tribe who voted against them? Will Lex now lie low and let Tom or Ethan or Kim control the next votes? I want Lex to win.... but I'm getting pretty worried that he will blow it. I can't figure out where Brandon is going to fit into all this. I have to admit that he is surprising me....

Guinevere

Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 10:21 pm Click here to edit this post
I'm sorry to see Kelly go...I don't see that she "deserved" it...certainly not for something she didn't even do!

God, I wish it had been Lex. I. Can't. Stand. Him. What a self-righteous, egomaniacal, controlling freak. He reminds me of Jerri, minus the t&a.

Moondance

Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 10:33 pm Click here to edit this post
I was sorry to see Kelly go especially when Lex's gut was wrong! She was spunky!

Knightpatti

Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 11:05 pm Click here to edit this post
Kelly did get a raw deal. Didn't MamaKim vote against her too? She could not have been in alliance with her if she did. Maybe it serves Kelly right though since she did vote against Clarence.

Muse

Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 11:09 pm Click here to edit this post
I didn't like Kelly, but I felt kind of bad that she went over something she didn't do. But I really like Theresa, so I'm glad Lex didn't figure it out and get her out. :)

I really feel sorry for Tom. He's such a sweet (albeit crass) guy, and obviously was pretty hesitant about voting for Kelly. If Lex hadn't been as bossy as usual, their alliance probably would've held up better.

If Brandon voted for Kelly in order to take her place in the alliance, he's an idiot. He's only guaranteed fifth place if he sticks with it (unless he wins immunity at that point, of course). But if he had voted off Lex, he would've gotten fifth, at least...plus probably further than that, since he's close to Kim, and since she could've gotten Kelly firmly on their side. He could've made the final two or three quite easily. I would *think* that he'd realize that, especially since he has so much time to sit around and strategize...unless maybe the sun fried his brain or something. :) Even if he's just sneaking over to the other side to pick up information (and will really vote with the old Samburus next time), it's stupid...won't win him any jury votes, at least.

Discoinferno

Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 11:11 pm Click here to edit this post
Guinevere wrote:

He reminds me of Jerri, minus the t&a.

Lex may not have the T but he is a big A!

Discoinferno

Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 11:14 pm Click here to edit this post
I agree with you, Car54... Lex is an idiot if he thinks he can trust Brandon... I hope Brandon votes again with Samburu next week and takes him or Tom out!

If you were Lex would you want a pissed off Kelly as the first member of the jury? If he had just remained calm and not flown off the handle over two votes then she quite possibly would still have voted with Boran this time around!

Knightpatti

Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 11:19 pm Click here to edit this post
Next week show is saying there is a betrayal. Do you think that they are talking about Brandon?

Spear

Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 11:27 pm Click here to edit this post
Oooh. The Insider for this week shows more of what Brandon said when he showed his vote. He *is* planning to switch back next week!

Spear

Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 11:43 pm Click here to edit this post
Hope I'm not stealing Joan's thunder but here's what Brandon said in the "Tribal Council voting" clip on Insider:

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Well, this is a kicker. I made a promise to Lex that I would vote this way tonight, and I'm probably going to bite it. My plan is the rest of my team all votes for Lex, and get rid of him next week and we're back in control. We'll see how it works. My team may never forgive me for this but I really am doing it to make it to the final four at least. So, sorry Kelly. You tried to get rid of me when you were at my tribe. My turn.
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It would seem safer if he filled in the rest of Samburu about his plan but I guess he was worried Kelly would place ahead of him in the new Samburu pecking order. Since we know what Kelly thought of Frank, though, Brandon would probably have been safer leaving Kelly in. He, Kim P., and Kelly could easily have been the top three.

Hmmm, I wonder if the fact that they let the clip show up means Brandon's plan doesn't work?

Urgrace

Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 11:46 pm Click here to edit this post
Wait! Look at your tape of the show of the clip where youngKim and Teresa are getting water from the bucket - Kim tells T about the voting and then looks over at Brandon - there's a wink and a nod! Maybe what we don't see and hear is the plot to get rid of Kelly _before_ this conversation! My guess is Brandon had already figured the extra votes for Lex and thinning out the big three guys alliance! He's also still under the radar if only three vote against him next week, especially if Tom finds out Kelly was not the snake, Lex is!

Urgrace

Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 11:56 pm Click here to edit this post
Oh Spear! I was posting when your post came up ahead of mine, so I didn't know about the insider. Brandon was probably smart to axe Kelly at this point, and I don't think it will make his team mad at him for it. Lex may not be gone yet, but his number is up! However, Brandon's number will be up soon too, but I doubt if it will be before Lex's.

Smileeys

Friday, December 07, 2001 - 12:21 am Click here to edit this post
Okay, guess I need to go back and watch their expressions again, but when Kelly was out - K/T looked surprised or puzzled to me. Anyway, I hope it works and then again, I don't because I can officially declare now who I would like to win - Ethan. He was so sweet with the people in the village. He "won" me over tonight. Before this, tonight, I had some I liked and didn't like but not a favor so now count me in on the Ethan bandwagon.

Don't like Kelly too much but can't stand Lex. What kind of magic spell is he weaving to get seemingly nice and usually level headed people to go along with his insaneness. What a big baby! Someone voted for me - boohoo. Is it just me or was that one of the lamest ways they have decided to vote someone out, yet! It had nothing to do with strategy IMO.

Oh, well. At least in some ways this has been more interesting in that it has not been predictable as the other two survivor's.

Car54

Friday, December 07, 2001 - 01:38 am Click here to edit this post
Oh, I am so excited about that Spear.... I was just speculating when I posted that! Woo Hoo!

Disco, that is just what I was thinking... Kelly is going to give every jury member an earful for the next few weeks. But it will be funny if the next bootee is Lex- for him and Kelly to be alone together on the jury for a while would be pretty funny!

Do you guys think Frank is just playing dumb or is he just really dumb? Never heard of brunch?
blew the immunity challenge on the first item?
Is he that slow or is he flying UTR?

I am thinking Tom is going to make a move. He seems to be questioning all this crap from Lex. I was thinking he was wavering this week. Go Teresa- get him!

Car54

Friday, December 07, 2001 - 01:38 am Click here to edit this post
Oh, I am so excited about that Spear.... I was just speculating when I posted that! Woo Hoo!

Disco, that is just what I was thinking... Kelly is going to give every jury member an earful for the next few weeks. But it will be funny if the next bootee is Lex- for him and Kelly to be alone together on the jury for a while would be pretty funny!

Do you guys think Frank is just playing dumb or is he just really dumb? Never heard of brunch?
blew the immunity challenge on the first item?
Is he that slow or is he flying UTR?

I am thinking Tom is going to make a move. He seems to be questioning all this crap from Lex. I was thinking he was wavering this week. Go Teresa- get him!

Car54

Friday, December 07, 2001 - 01:47 am Click here to edit this post
Remember, Tina told us to watch for the unseen pair. We don't see much of Kimj or Kimp and Ethan. He is always with the guys.
Clarence said Kimj will do anything necessary to stay in the game. This week that involved voting with Lex, but she and Kelly were friends-that can't feel good. But right now she is guaranteed final 4 with a group with 2 members with 8 votes between them. Precarious.
Or she could bond with sam and be final 5 and hope somebody else is more annoying than her.
If the L/E/T falls apart, I think Ethan has to bond with somebody quietly.... and now he pretty much has to pull a Colby and win all the IC's if he can. He is a target- winning both immunities this week.

I was disappointed in KimJ at the IC, that was a mental game- memory, and she did really poorly. She just stinks at the challenges. That is not good.

Fruitbat

Friday, December 07, 2001 - 04:21 am Click here to edit this post
I am so sorry to see Kelly go. I liked her spunk.

So next time it looks like we have this, assuming Brandon does go back........

Theresa, KimP, Brandon, Frank
vs
Lex, Tom, Ethan, KimJ

Lex will be up against someone of Samburu that has no votes. So Lex could go if this plays out.

I love this show. It has may surprizes so this may be way off base. Lex may find out that Theresa cast the vote, Brandon may stay with Boran and T may go. Hard call.

We saw KimP being uset with Brandon for defecting so I doubt that anything was discussed ahead of time unless they set that up to be seen by Boran. If this was a plan it was brilliant.

Secret alliance? Just can't figure that one out yet.

Car54

Friday, December 07, 2001 - 04:57 am Click here to edit this post
You, know- if indeed Brandon did vote Kelly out to get the teams even, he is REALLY a player. He did something so risky and creative- I can't remember another player taking this kind of risk.
Usually they just do the safest thing, or stick with the tribe they were plunked into on the first day, and accept their fate. I can think of about 3 different twists and turns the game could take now.... if indeed Brandon goes back to the Sams.
If the Borans realize Lex has to go, how do they bail to save themselves- you could have Tom and Kimj approach Teresa and Frank,
Ethan could align with Kimp and Brandon...
Next week is "Dinner, A Movie, and a Betrayal"
That sounds juicy.
After their scene in the recap episode, I hope Brandon and Tom go on a date!
Bravo Brandon!