Episode 12 SPOILER

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Car54

Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 06:36 pm Click here to edit this post
Moon, you should get the live Eastcoast feed, then you can watch it TWICE!

What color was Frank's sarong. Maybe they are all wearing the same one- just trading off weeks.

Patti, I remember that too, Brandon or Kelly said Mark Burnett yelled at them more than once for acting up on the jury.

Moondance

Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 06:39 pm Click here to edit this post
Car... I accidentally checked the board... I have gone through the season and not peaked but once I saw in a thread Lex won IC... I started reading your posts and I was LOL... they were great:)

Car54

Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 06:42 pm Click here to edit this post
Twiggy, I think Lex and Tom don't trust themselves, but they know Teresa is MORE dangerous than either of them.
Tom did not have it in him to do the dirty deed, but probably when he figured out what was happening he decided better Lex (the snake he knows) than Teresa (the snake who will sneak up on you)

I still think this was all Kim. She set this up to protect Ethan- with Ethan's knowledge. She told every guy a slightly different story tonite when she was feeling them out. She is leading them down the path, but Ethan is her pick- I bet.

Car54

Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 06:44 pm Click here to edit this post
Aw moon, I'm practicing. Maybe if I get a better computer I can be a live feed poster on BB3. (probably not- I get excited and give my opinions too much!)

Twiggyish

Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 06:49 pm Click here to edit this post
I agree about Kim. I am seeing her a lot differently.

Gina8642

Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 06:51 pm Click here to edit this post
I think all that talk was just a smoke screen. Teresa was trying to stir up touble. The others are all willing to talk about it - but not actually commit to it. But they aren't about to sell the goose (their alliance) who layed the golden egg.

Nothing interesting is going to show until the next vote. Only then will we really be able to start seeing where the true alliances are.

Because KimJ has repeatedly had opportunities to join other good alliances and has not done so, leads me to believe either A-She is an idiot (I don't think she can be a complete idiot, and got where she has in life, but I could be wrong) - or B-She has an alliance with one or more of those guys.

Which one is it??? I am just not sure, but I kinda like the Lex-KimJ alliance idea some have been tossing about. Why? I just sorta makes more sense to me. Lex is a really friendly guy (Head Chopping comments made only to the camera aside) and seems to bond well with everyone else. He has a good repore with all the age groups. This makes him slightly more likely than Ethan. Ethan is very reserved and is not apparently making deep connections with his fellow tribemembers. Tom - well, flame me if you want, but Tom seems a bit of a mysoginist. Not really a knowing one, but he speaks of women constantly in terms of sex, it seems like that might put off KimJ a bit. It does me. This would make it less likely they have shared a secret bond and worked together to support each other all this time. So, Lex is my most likely compartriot with KimJ.


So what is next?

We still have the traditional immunity challenge of who knows more about which tribe members. (What college they went to, number of children, etc...) Seems that Lex will excel again here. For the same reasons stated above. He has worked a good repore with most of the contestants, including those he voted off. He had the added advantage of shitching tribes, giving him a chance to meet more people. Which leads me to believe he had many a conversation with them, and therefor knows many details about their lives. Lex also just proved his mind is in good working order by excelling at the word serch puzzle. Tom, on the other hand will stink at this (I think) - He can't remember which way is out when going to get water. KimJ might also be good at this challange, she seems at least chatted a lot with fellow contestants. Ethan may not be so good, because of his reservedness; therfore he's less likely to know details about his fellow tribe members.

So, who would Lex boot? Maybe Ethan because he is so well liked?

Just some thoughts.....

It is hard to work this all the way through without knowing who the final three will be....

Judy

Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 06:52 pm Click here to edit this post
This just in...Lillie you called it girl!!
Check out this exclusive photo of next week's jury:

CLICK HERE

Kizz

Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 06:53 pm Click here to edit this post
I just can't believe that Frank wore a skir..sarong. He's really serious about having the Africa experience (and you KNOW how tickled Brandon had to be!!) Should be something Bryant explores on the reunion show

Moondance

Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 06:55 pm Click here to edit this post
Car you would be GREAT at live feeds... I think personal comments make it fun!:)

Car54

Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 06:55 pm Click here to edit this post
And then there is Tina's advice- watch for the hidden pair. Ethan and Kim have been pretty public, Lex and Kim seem to be happening- the two we NEVER see together in any way are Kim and Tom- could that be the hidden pair?

Something sure as heck just happened to save Tom's butt. Was it Kim?

Joan

Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 06:56 pm Click here to edit this post
I almost fainted seeing Frank in a skirt (I know it is a "sarong" but really...it's a damned skirt people.) I agree with Kizz, it seems he is really out for the complete experience.

I have to wonder if Kelly's shirt really was aimed at last week's comments or if Jeff just slyly pulled that out...

Gina8642

Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 06:57 pm Click here to edit this post
I should really learn to spell.....

Car54

Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 06:57 pm Click here to edit this post
Yeah, but I got the free feeds and watching it creeped me out. I loved reading them, but watching was really strange. Go figure?

Lilliegirl

Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 06:57 pm Click here to edit this post
Kim would be gone if it wasnt for Ethan, he has carried her butt all the way how can a grandmother be so evil, hope her grands watch the show and they can get some pointers from her.

Hippyt

Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 07:15 pm Click here to edit this post
Well,first off,I just want to say,My brain is working WAY too hard right now.The hamster is running too fast on his little wheel,and my entire head is about to implode!
It seems obvious to me that Kim is aligned with Ethan,but there was the one comment she made to T-bird last week,"I can't do that to him---yet." Hmmmm,run hamster ,run!
I think no way in Hell she has an alliance with Tom.Gina explained that one brilliantly.
But for Lex to align himself with her,and her to align herself with Lex,would make sense from both sides. He thinks he would win,because obviously he has played the game better. She thinks she would win,well,because he's a jerk.She'd at least have a chance,with Ethan she's have almost none.
I need to go watch some cartoons,my brain hurts!!!

Hippyt

Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 07:17 pm Click here to edit this post
Car,lol,way off subject,I had a dream last night that Rob and Brennan,and Drew and Kevin came up to me,and they were acting like I was the celebrity! It was pretty funny,and I got lots of hugs!!! Woke up happy!

Lilliegirl

Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 07:24 pm Click here to edit this post
Great picture Judy LOL.

Sammmy

Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 07:25 pm Click here to edit this post
How was Kelly able to get that shirt so quickly. It was only 3 days since Lex made the comment about the Walk of Shame. They're in Africa. I doubt there is a Walmart nearby (Ha!...but who knows?) Did someone from CBS have it brought in by request? Very interesting.

Car54

Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 07:26 pm Click here to edit this post
Hippyt, I smell smoke- is it you or me?

It depends on what Kim's motives are. She is married to a very wealthy man- a million is not a life changing amount for her.
She has proven her point and made it far despite her age and lack of athleticism.

It depends on what she is in it for- did she play to win, or to prove something. There is something in her that may just want to make sure her pick wins. If so - Ethan. If she IS in it for the win- then Lex.

Oh, what a nice dream! I bet they all thought you were the famous HIPPYT from TVCH!

Car54

Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 07:29 pm Click here to edit this post
Maybe the Costume dept made it for her. I remember her saying she didn't think to pack extra clothes for the time after she got booted and to watch what she was wearing on the jury.

Lilliegirl

Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 07:37 pm Click here to edit this post
It has been said the more money you have the more money you want so maybe Kim is like that, I know I would be the same way.

Gina8642

Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 08:40 pm Click here to edit this post
Keep in mind too not to take too seriously what they are quoting other players as saying, or what they are saying about other players.

KimJ said something to the effect of tonight "Tommy told me to try to get rid of Lex, but not to tell him about it". there was also the earlier episode comment HippyT just mentioned of hers about not wanting to get rid of Eth yet.

Who says any of these are true? or accurate?

Remember Big Brother? There were more lies flying around that game. We all would be discussing them here like they were truth. (How much Will owed student loans. Who Hardy had or had not promised to go to the end with. Etc....) Many of these were either lies, or never said by the person they were attributed to.

They may just be diversion. Possibly on KimJ's part, or possibly some other source. I think all statements on either a)strategy or b) quoting what other players have said to you (the one telling the quote to a third party) NEED TO BE TAKEN WITH A GRAIN OF SALT.

They may just be deceptive. They are trying to get everyone to come around to their plan. Remember Brandon telling Lex how Kelly was betraying the Boran? Completely made up. She was as loyal as could be. Brandon's move was brilliant. Too bad he and KimP couldn't work together to manage the fallout from that vote. This would have been a whole different ballgame then.

So, don't believe everything you hear......

Sunshinemiss

Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 08:55 pm Click here to edit this post
Thanks for the updates all, I can't believe I totally forgot the VCR set-up, and missed the whole darn thing, ARGH!!! Did anyone get a vidcap of Frank in the sarong? Anything else that happened?

(at least I FINALLY got my votes right, all 3, hooray, first time ever!)

Egbok

Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 09:09 pm Click here to edit this post
I just finished watching S3 (westcoaster) and during one of the commercial breaks they showed a picture of our local KCBS Channel 2 News Team and said something like "be sure to watch so that you can win tickets to Survivor's Finale". Did any other westcoasters catch that?? I'm wondering if next weeks 2 hr Finale will leave us hanging like S2. (I apologize if this is a known already; I've been so busy that I barely have time to scan these threads, to vote at the SDP and to even watch S3!) Let me know if you guys know anything about this, thanks!

Congrats sunshinemiss!!

Moondance

Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 09:11 pm Click here to edit this post
I heard that too MsBok!

Seamonkey

Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 09:18 pm Click here to edit this post
Didn't they show a clip tonight where TOM did say
to someone that he didn't want to know about it if they did Lex in???

I said it weeks ago, they should have offed Lex long ago, when they had a chance.

Tonight's challenge (immunity) was pretty heavily slanted to physical, not mental.

And.. a thought I had when Lex was waxing eloquent about how seeing the hospital affected him... I'd have been very tempted to hand the keys to the truck to the doctor.

Whoami

Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 09:30 pm Click here to edit this post
I just don't trust Lex enough to know if he really was a "changed person" after that hospital visit. One scene showed him playing with a kid, but at the same time his eyes flicked towards the camera (to see if he was being filmed?).

It would have been a cool gesture to hand over the keys. But, Lex is a guy, and he just won a TRUCK. Guys...trucks....you know. Anyway, how would they have gotten back to camp? Actually, he should have tried to hand the keys over to T-bird. The trip would have meant much more to her what with her personal experience.

I set my VCR as I have every ep (I've been saving them in case I want to view later). Went upstairs to rewind and see Frank in a skirt, and the *!%# programming didn't take! So now I have every ep but this one. Grrr.......

Spear

Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 11:06 pm Click here to edit this post
On this week's Insider, as Kim J. is writing her vote for Theresa, she says:

"You actually broke my heart when I found out you had lied to me earlier ..."

Huh? What did that mean? Did T-Bird lie about Tom's suggestion to vote for Lex? Why would Kim care? She even reinforced it while they were talking to Lex.

No one else even hints at any animosity towards Theresa. However, when Theresa votes for Tom, she says that it was an "agreed-upon vote". I wonder what really happened?

Car54

Friday, January 04, 2002 - 01:11 am Click here to edit this post
It shows how selfish I am- it never occurred to me to give away the truck! I did think it would be so nice if Teresa could have gone, but did she tell about her brother to the others or to the camera- I wasn't sure if it was a voiceover.

And they DID show Kimj saying she wasn't ready to vote Ethan off yet. I remember it very clearly. I think it was the week Frank was booted- T was trying to get her to defect.
And Seamonkey you are right too, Tom did say it.

Spear- she means Teresa's vote for Lex. I guess if T had not revealed the vote she might have gotten Lex and Kim. I wondered why they didn't show Kims vote tonite! Thanks for telling us!
I knew something else had happened we were not shown.
Given how misguided Lex's gut is, and his "heavy heart" comments when he voted, I think he planned to go with T and Kim or Ethan talked him out of it.

Kimj said she disliked how three players played the game to Kelly. I guess it was Kelly, Teresa, and either Silas or Brandon.

Egbok, I saw a post on another board about there being tickets to the finale. I think they still reveal the votes live to protect the secret. Wonder if they will do the hokey flying in with a helicopter. That was pretty bogus last year. I think the did the TC in Africa, and Jeff goes off to "tally the votes" then they segue to the live end from what I read. The post said she had won the tickets, so maybe your local station has some to give too.

Pamy

Friday, January 04, 2002 - 11:36 am Click here to edit this post
Egbok....I am westcoast also, and yes they are giving away tickets, but they will reveal the winner in next weeks episode because it says in the tv guide the winner is revealed next week. i think the tickets are to be in the audience during the reunion show afterward, because last year they all watched the taped episode on a big screen before the actual reunion show started.

Egbok

Friday, January 04, 2002 - 07:11 pm Click here to edit this post
Thanks for the info Car54 & Pamy.

Hey Moonie - got any inside tracks to the tickets?? I know of a secret place where we can get into the backlot if this is where the local news is produced - LOL!!

Moondance

Friday, January 04, 2002 - 07:15 pm Click here to edit this post
Yes MsBok... we should look into that!

Car54

Friday, January 04, 2002 - 11:51 pm Click here to edit this post
It would be too cool if someone from our board was there- could give us the inside scoop on who hates who!

Pamy

Saturday, January 05, 2002 - 10:41 am Click here to edit this post
egbok....fyi...due to 9-11 and the possible threats to the entertainment industry, it is not as easy as it used to be to get on the lots, even the people working there wait in long lines to get to work. when i was working as a make-up artist you could walk onto any lot with no problems, but now it is a lot harder. anyway, good luck, it would make it that much more of a challenge and a lot more fun!!!!