Lee | Thursday, May 03, 2001 - 11:38 pm  Did I miss some news article or what?? I knew she had been upset about being the first person voted off, but why the big identity crisis now?? What happened that was so bad she didn't even want to come to the reunion show?? What did I miss?? |
Lancecrossfire | Thursday, May 03, 2001 - 11:55 pm  She got drug through the mud pretty good for the fact that she is in a relationship with her dead husbands' son. There were also a lot of negative comments about her in general as the kind of person she is for getting voted off first. |
Twiggyish | Friday, May 04, 2001 - 08:27 am  I am sorry but Debb knew before going on Survivor she was signing away her privacy. The press has been hard on some of the others, too. |
Ocean_Islands | Friday, May 04, 2001 - 08:46 am  Of course I missed the whole show and don't know what you are talking about but of course must comment: if Deb didn't show up, more power to her. Perhaps she realised she made a mistake when serving herself up for the ravenous hordes of tv viewers and National Enquirer readers. |
Twiggyish | Friday, May 04, 2001 - 09:00 am  Right OI. It isn't fair and it is awful, but it is a consequence when going on a show like Survivor. |
Fruitbat | Friday, May 04, 2001 - 09:01 am  She showed up but she had obviously had a problem with it. She tried to get out of it, or so it seemed. She barely contained her tears and spoke haltlingly about her experience. She felt no one got to know her and when she arrived home the press tore into her and her relationship with her late husbands son. She said she was a strong person but had lost herself. It was profoundly jarring. She was in bad shape. I'm not sure it is easy to calculate just how difficult it is to handle public scrutiny. Debb misjudged her own ability and is devastated. |
Max | Friday, May 04, 2001 - 09:10 am  She seemed a little more collected this morning on The Early Show. Apparently between takes last night, there was a group hug of sorts with all the others offering her encouragement and support. She said that really surprised her since she only knew these people for 3 days. |
Twiggyish | Friday, May 04, 2001 - 09:11 am  That is true Bat. She did misjudge it. I don't think she should have been on last night. It must have taken a lot to even show up. |
Watson | Friday, May 04, 2001 - 09:17 am  If you go on TV you know you are open to someone finding skeletons.........However, Fruitbat put it well....you still have to feel for her. Noone really knows her situation, but the media knew it would be great press........and sell magazines. Who else was the media hard on??? No one really touched Tina's thing |
Ocean_Islands | Friday, May 04, 2001 - 09:21 am  she's got a thing? |
Fruitbat | Friday, May 04, 2001 - 09:24 am  Apparently she got together with her present husband while he was still married to his first wife. I know nothing more. Someone is bound to show up here with the full poop. |
Seamonkey | Friday, May 04, 2001 - 09:26 am  I think I'd cut her some slack. I suspect that she was under pressure to do the "tour" after her booting was aired and then there was the media onslaught.. frankly I don't see how she could have envisioned how bad it would be and how her personal life (stepson/husband) would be dragged out.. After all, Sonia wasn't maligned in this way. I gather she hadn't had contact with the others until last night and I give her props for saying what was in her heart.. that opened her up to criticism but also opened her up to the others being supportive. I know we "joked" alot about our favorites and picked apart every action we saw, or thought we saw or thought we didn't see, but these are just people.. human.. Sorry.... now carefully stepping off my soapbox (I'd leap but I have some missing ligaments in my knee and don't feature hitting the ground) |
Seamonkey | Friday, May 04, 2001 - 09:42 am  Bat.. Debb was married to an older guy, who had a son already. The husband died. She ended up falling in love with and marrying the son who wasn't a little kid. She apparently wasn't a mother figure to him, etc. She's older than the current husband. I know Bryant brought it up when she was on the early show.. but I imagine she's had tons of hassle and backlash. I guess if she had gone on Springer or on Oprah to discuss relationships that would be one thing, but since this wasn't odd or controversial in Debb's mind, I don't think she anticipated it becomeing an issue.. |
Twiggyish | Friday, May 04, 2001 - 09:44 am  Very good point Sea. She didn't realize it was controversial. |
Fruitbat | Friday, May 04, 2001 - 10:01 am  Seamonkey....yes, that is what I was refering to in my post. Her late husband's son. I purposely did not use the term stepson because it that was not the relationship they had. Or maybe you were looking at my post about Tina. I am glad to hear Debb got hugs last night. Maybe in future shows they will make note of this and conciously seek connection for support with the press. Jerri may have been able to help Debb before she took the nose dive. BB's idea of having a therapist on duty was wise. Survivor needs one too. |
Zeb | Friday, May 04, 2001 - 07:09 pm  Debb got a raw deal, actually. She was voted out after only being there 3 days so she felt like a loser to herself and felt like nobody got a chance to know her. She's probably been carrying that around for 5 months on top of the media trash that she's received. It's not unheard of for contestants in past reality shows in other countries to need counseling or therapy after being voted out. It was good for her to be on TV last night and express her feelings and why she felt that way. That cleans up 75% of the problem. The other 25% is up to her. |
Seamonkey | Friday, May 04, 2001 - 07:17 pm  I agree that last night was a good thing.. just now on ET, Jeff Probst said that when he saw the 16 together he could see that Debb was definitely apart from the rest of the group, so he was glad that it was brought up, that Debb said what she said, and then during the commercial, the others went to Debb.. a good start, for sure. |
Fruitbat | Friday, May 04, 2001 - 07:50 pm  Thanks Seamonkey. I missed ET. And Zeb I agree, 75% of the healing has taken place for her. I bet she is feeling very good right now. |
Skipper | Friday, May 04, 2001 - 08:11 pm  You know, maybe it would be a good thing for them not to have to vote off the first person for say a week. After just three days is rough. Give them a little more time to be involved! Just a little juggling with the schedule is all they need to do! So glad that Debb seem to have some good things happen last night and glad she did go to the show. |