Azriel | Friday, April 20, 2001 - 02:58 pm  Did it bother anyone else when Tina pulled Rodger aside and asked him who he wanted them to vote for, him or Elisabeth? That just got under my skin. She was trying to look soooooooo caring, but to me it just came off as arrogant and a really b*tchy thing to do. |
Highlander | Friday, April 20, 2001 - 03:13 pm  We also dont know if Tina had the same conversation with Elizabeth that just wasnt shown on TV. I believe it was self serving and she knew Rodger or Elizabeth would be on the jury. She was just looking to set up a vote in her favor in the jury's eyes. |
Tess | Friday, April 20, 2001 - 03:16 pm  Well, it does make it seem that Tina thought her alliance was invincible and for last night she was correct for whatever reason. It bothers me that it appears she assumed she was in no danger of going at all. (Bothered me when Keith did the same thing). Does Tina have any votes against her at all? I don't think so but I'm not sure. I think that she would have know after all that time what Rodger was going to say and what both their financial situations were. It is possible that she had the conversation as a strategic move to appear compassionate but I also could be persuaded that she is indeed a fairly decent person while being a cutthroat competitor. She said at the very beginning that she would do whatever it takes to win. I believe her. It bothered me that Richard was sure from the beginning that he was going to win and I get the same feeling from Tina. I don't actively dislike her, I just don't care about her the way I do Rodger and Elisabeth. |
Highlander | Friday, April 20, 2001 - 03:22 pm  But Tess, she didnt have to ask the question of Rodger. She had to know the answer to the question. Maybe she was trying to split them up and in the event Rodgers said no vote for me, she might have told Elizabeth that Rodger was looking for her vote. We will never know how she would have played it if Rodger had answered differently. |
Moondance | Friday, April 20, 2001 - 04:04 pm  I agree Az and Highlander... I have thought she was shifty since the second week after the stuff with Maddog and Kel. |
Kady | Friday, April 20, 2001 - 04:39 pm  Rodger should have told her "Don't vote for me Tina cause I know if I come up against you in the final two, the jury will vote me the winner." I also don't like her after she nominated her friend Maddog. She has a very pompous attitude and this would be a whole different ballgame if Mike had not have gotten hurt. |
Tess | Friday, April 20, 2001 - 04:51 pm  Highlander, I certainly agree that she knew the answer to the question before she asked it. Even we all could see that Rodger would never sacrifice Elisabeth for himself. I've mentioned in other threads that the one problem I have with Tina is that she has led people to believe that they are in an alliance and then turned on them to her advantage. I also have said it wouldn't surprise me if she does the same thing to Keith and/or Colby. Now, do I think she's an evil person for playing this way....not really. But, would I play that way? NO. Do I have far more respect for Rodger and Elisabeth even though their loyalty probably cost them a million dollars? YES. Even, little Amber stayed loyal to the end and that was her undoing. All this being said, do I want Tina to win? NO. Has she played the game well? Yes, I think she has. But, then, Richard played well in Survivor 1 and I didn't want him to win either. Ah, well. Kady, LOL....no kidding. The only person who would have had a prayer against Rodger is maybe Elisabeth. |
Tess | Friday, April 20, 2001 - 04:54 pm  Oh, and Kady, you're absolutely right it would have been a completely different game with Mike still there. The inter-personal dynamics would have been so different as he was such a strong personality. I think Colby wouldn't be winning so many of the challenges if he had to go up against Mike either. Who knows what would have happened with the voting alliances with another dominant figure in the mix. HMMMM. |
Highlander | Friday, April 20, 2001 - 05:14 pm  Absolutely Tess, but I dont think the roleplaying is going to help from this point on. Tina will have to think about who she wants on that jury. That is what I love about this show right now. This is where it gets interesting. Now it is about the Jury. Its about Alicia, Amber, Nick, Rodger and Jerri. Next vote will be who you want on the jury that might help you. Tina will vote for Elizabeth on the jury. This is where the fun really begins. |
Lancecrossfire | Friday, April 20, 2001 - 05:57 pm  I wonder if they've been holding back on showing just how Tina is playing the game. Is she as bad as Richard? (or as good, depending on how you see it) Is she pulling strings or being the most political, or the worst backstabber? (wait, those two last ones are redundant) If only there were 24 hour live feeds!! |
Highlander | Friday, April 20, 2001 - 06:00 pm  That is the thing lance, I was struck today by Rodgers interview and he told something about Jerri which was minor, but it was never shown. It let me to think what else have we all missed? We are only seeing what someone up in TV land deems is important enough for us to see. I guess we will find it all out in time. I figure six months and we will have a book by one of the final four about the true story of Survivor. |
Moondance | Friday, April 20, 2001 - 06:14 pm  Highlander, I missed that interview... what did Rodger say about Jerri? |
Highlander | Friday, April 20, 2001 - 06:18 pm  He didnt say anything negative in fact it was positive. This morning on the CBS morning show he was defending Jerri. He said that it was a particularly windy night and he was sleeping at the side of the tent so the wind was blowing in on him. He made some comment about it being windy and Jerri got up and went outside the tent to get water barrels and put them in such a way as to block Rodgers face. He was pointing it as an example of a good side to Jerri that nobody saw. It just struck me when I heard that how we are also being manipulated as an audience. We are only shown what they want us to see. |
Moondance | Friday, April 20, 2001 - 06:24 pm  Thanks... I happen to be one of the Jerri fans LOL... not many of us but I saw the good in her too.. so did most everyone else outside the game. |
Highlander | Friday, April 20, 2001 - 06:30 pm  What killed Jerri was early on when she made the stink about the Beef Jerky which didnt exist. That pretty much set the audience against her and then her going on about how Keith didnt know how to cook anything. Jerri just played her politics too early on. She should have gotten the lay of the land before she tried to be the leader. |
Lancecrossfire | Friday, April 20, 2001 - 06:30 pm  MB is so good at getting us hooked on different levels. First the game--he edits well so you never know what to expect. He throws people off who work very hard to track stuff down while the show is running. He edits well and sets up interviews so that we realize there is a whole lot more happened than meets the eye...and the people are a whole lot more than just what we know of them. Enter a video or two of an expanded version of what we saw, or maybe a video with more about who the people really are. Charge $20 each, and by the end of the show and live get together, we are climbing at the walls to buy one or both. Not only is he making one heck of a wave, he's surfing it in all the way to shore...and the bank. |
Azriel | Friday, April 20, 2001 - 06:52 pm  Highlander, I saw something different in Rodger's story about Jerri's kindness. To me, it seemed like he had to really think hard to think of something nice to say about her. Well there was this ONE time ... |
Judy | Friday, April 20, 2001 - 07:02 pm  |
Highlander | Friday, April 20, 2001 - 07:04 pm  true Azriel, but at the same time it pointed out that we are only seeing what they want us to see. |