S2 less backstabbing than S1?

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Bijoux

Friday, April 20, 2001 - 11:09 am Click here to edit this post
It seems to me that the people in Survivor 2 spend more time considering the personalities of the other players when picking someone to vote out. At one point Colby said that Elisabeth didn't deserve to go and Jerri stay. Last night Tina asked Rodger about who he felt needed the money more, Rodger or Elisabeth. Rodger graciously said Elisabeth. On the other hand, giving your word to somebody about forming an alliance doesn't seem to count for very much with the S2 crew. What's your opinion?

Grooch

Friday, April 20, 2001 - 11:26 am Click here to edit this post
Bijoux, I was wondering if Tina asking Rodger was coming from sincerity, or if it was a way of gaining favoritism on the jury. I think I'm starting to get cynical in my old age. Sigh.

Max

Friday, April 20, 2001 - 11:31 am Click here to edit this post
I don't know, Grooch. I think you might be onto something. Remember in Amber's post-banishment interview, she said Tina was one of the bigger schemers in the bunch.

I agree, though, that in general this group seems a lot nicer than the first group. I don't know if that's bad, though. I don't have any clear cut favorite in the group. So, instead of wishing that a particular player be banished each week (like in the first game), I worry about which one I'm going to miss the most.

Bijoux

Friday, April 20, 2001 - 11:36 am Click here to edit this post
I thought she was sincere and meant well. Probably because it wouldn't have gained favoritism with me if I was on the jury. What an ackward position to put someone into!

Tksoard

Friday, April 20, 2001 - 01:47 pm Click here to edit this post
That's right! What did she expect him to say? ME ME ME!! I WANT THE MONEY!!! I wonder if she asked Bessy the same question, but they didn't air it.

Tess

Friday, April 20, 2001 - 02:40 pm Click here to edit this post
I didn't think the jury got to see anything but tribal council -- or am I wrong? If they only see tribal council, then would they even know how the others decided on Rodger over Elisabeth? I don't think Rodger would tell them.

Bijoux

Friday, April 20, 2001 - 03:19 pm Click here to edit this post
That's the crux of the situation isn't it? The jury will only know what is told to them. Of course there's always Jeff's questioning during tribal council.

Moondance

Friday, April 20, 2001 - 04:09 pm Click here to edit this post
Yes and I hear that there are so many questions and answers that don't make it to the show... wish there was an uncut version!

I agree Grooch!

Seamonkey

Friday, April 20, 2001 - 05:28 pm Click here to edit this post
Maybe I'm a sap, but I just think that Tina wanted to find our if Rodger was struggling, say, like George.. well actually George wasn't but the way he acted.. and Rodger assured her he wasn't.

And I definitely think this last group is more cohesive.

Aja

Saturday, April 21, 2001 - 08:47 am Click here to edit this post
AHA! This show IS being compared to Big Brother!
It really isn't much different, is it?!
A bunch of people crammed together in a small space... so why bother putting them in the wilderness if the one with the least survival skills will end up being the winner?!
Why call it "Survivor"!?
I'm okay now... really.
(still a bit ruffled over Rodger being booted)

Seamonkey

Saturday, April 21, 2001 - 10:06 am Click here to edit this post
I wasn't comparing the shows, just the situations, that one factor that enters into various decisions is need.

I suspect if you asked Rodger, he'd say "get over it, move on" as he obviously has.

Moondance

Saturday, April 21, 2001 - 10:56 am Click here to edit this post
Sea... how are you? You seem to be upset lately... hope things are good with you... miss that clipart!

Seamonkey

Saturday, April 21, 2001 - 11:56 am Click here to edit this post
Actually I was thinking quite a few were overly upset lately. What happened to it being fun?

As Maralyn says, and Rodger quoted.. "It is a G.A.M.E."

Moondance

Saturday, April 21, 2001 - 12:08 pm Click here to edit this post
I understand SeaMonk...

Hang in there... I promise with all my complaining about Rodger and cheaterman, I don't mean any harm... just fun:)

There is no reality just perception

Seamonkey

Saturday, April 21, 2001 - 09:31 pm Click here to edit this post
Perhaps my perception of fun is different.. that's all..

(Watching Schinder's List.. in a pensive mood)

Wilsonatmd

Saturday, April 21, 2001 - 10:31 pm Click here to edit this post
There may be backstabbing here, but it's more subtle than in S1. There once Gretchen was tossed (and by the way, I'm rooting for her to win the special "Weakest Link" they going to have with her, Rich, Sue, Ramona, Joel, and Sean the week after the S2 finale), you knew who the final four would be. Here, you have an idea, but are not sure who the final three would be. There was also a 4-person alliance in S1, and here there's only a 2-person alliance (Colby may have been aligned with K+T before, but all bets are off now) here. Also, the S1 group voted with their heads almost all of the time. In S2, this group have voted with their heads and with their hearts (Jerri when it probably would have been better to keep her around longer, Rodger instead of the possibly challenge-dangerous Liz). So while I'm not saying there isn't any backstabbing going on, it isn't as blatant as in S1.

Seamonkey

Saturday, April 21, 2001 - 11:05 pm Click here to edit this post
I think there is more caring and bonding too.
Will be interesting to hear any "speeches" during the voting, but that's been DONE, by Susan..

Wilsonatmd

Sunday, April 22, 2001 - 03:18 am Click here to edit this post
Only person right now in the jury who would do that is probably Jerri. Nick's schooling will lead him to ask a relevant question, and the others I'm not sure on. NO "PICK A NUMBER" PLEASE!

Seamonkey

Sunday, April 22, 2001 - 11:04 am Click here to edit this post
I agree, Wilson, that Jerri would be the one. And I just wrote in another thread that I have to
admit I would question her motive whether she goes the Wicked Witch route or the See, I'm really a tender human being route.

Moondance

Sunday, April 22, 2001 - 11:19 am Click here to edit this post
I think she does have a tender side... I think she is just Real with nothing to hide so what we will see is real... and since the TC are in the outback with the jury and all, I don't think she is going to change her tune...if they were to give their speeches today, the tune might change a bit but she will always tell it like it is(in her perception):)

I still think it's Paul Hogan:) or Martha Stewart

Seamonkey

Sunday, April 22, 2001 - 01:18 pm Click here to edit this post
We will see, and hear.. sooon..

A tender side? Perhaps her armpits

Misslibra

Monday, April 23, 2001 - 04:34 pm Click here to edit this post
Seamonkey, LOL you have it about right, her arm pits are the only tender thing on that baracuda(SP).

Yes I agree with what most of you said there was or is less backstabbing going on in this Survivor. And I like it !