"Survivor" sucks! Try "Cutthroat" instead.

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Aja

Thursday, April 19, 2001 - 07:22 pm Click here to edit this post
I've had it up to here (holding hand above forehead) with this foolishness.
Count me among the many who think the name of the game does not fit! My intelligence is being insulted by MB, insinuating that this is a challenge for the mentally and physically fittest, pfuhhh!
Try putting 14 people in one camp to begin with!
Don't you think the people to be voted off ~first~ should be the ones sitting on their butts?
I think 'survivor' evictions should be voted on by the general public... The one with the most survival/people skills WILL outlast, outplay, outwit, etc.(?)
I may have a sucky memory, like Rodger, but I bet a million dollars he'd still be there if the real test were actual survival skills, at least it would be more FUN that way.
Sorry for ranting so, but honestly! The only portion of the 2 series I have really enjoyed watching was when they had visited with loved ones and played frisbee..
Sitting around watching a campfire and arguing about rice is not only boring for them, it's boring for the tv viewer as well.
I WANT ~REAL~ TV, I want them to have to get off their asses to survive.. every day!
Give each of them a map and compass, with X number of minutes to find food, and then let them share it if they want to!
I HAD TO VENT and reserve the right to vent more after next week's show (when liz is voted out if she doesn't win immunity....)

Moondance

Thursday, April 19, 2001 - 08:48 pm Click here to edit this post
OMG.... thank you Aja for saying what I was just feeling!!!... I just got through watching it while crying thinking this is how I felt about SI... nobody likeable won in that one either... this sux!!!! Colby had a chance to do the right thing and he didn't ... lost my support!

Rodger kicked ass!... he was up before anyone, always had a nice thing to say and had the heart and soul of a true player!

Wink

Friday, April 20, 2001 - 05:03 am Click here to edit this post
But Moon just think of all the neat things awaiting Rodger in the multi-media world because of his speech to Tina. However I do think MsBat will have a different take on it. Rodger after all was not on her list of faves.

Ocean_Islands

Friday, April 20, 2001 - 11:46 am Click here to edit this post
What else can they do? They can barely move because they are starving to death and suffering from malnutrition!

Moondance

Friday, April 20, 2001 - 04:07 pm Click here to edit this post
It's not just the contestants, it's the whole production OI... they didn't have to be so starving and have more to do so I think MB should take that in cinsideration for S3

Seamonkey

Friday, April 20, 2001 - 05:31 pm Click here to edit this post
Why not supply them with a few more tools and some info and THEN expect them to do more to survive...

Highlander

Friday, April 20, 2001 - 05:34 pm Click here to edit this post
Good idea Sea but do you remember them all laughing at kel for trying to go get fish. They werent interested in trying to use the resources available to them till it was too late. Hell Jerri just wanted to make tortillas. They wanted it all handed to them. I agree Rodger was the only one that went out there every day and did his best to work with what he had.

Aja

Saturday, April 21, 2001 - 08:32 am Click here to edit this post
And, and, and... The way they are set up is about as exciting as having the groups sequestered in a TV studio (sound familiar?). Unless they are going to challenges/council they rarely leave the tiny plot of land allocated to their campsite.
Why bother filming in far away lands?!
The expense of a huge 'production camp', snake wranglers, travel expense, etc. are being wasted by the tribes inability to move about the vast wilderness they are supposedly living in.
You can change continents but the players will always be the same.. same people, different names.
The game needs drastic change, I can already see it floundering in the sea of late-night monologue and slightly funny skits.
Only 2 games and it's already in a rut.
How many times did ~you~ play Candyland before it went into the closet for good?
Okay, I think I'm over it now..

Seamonkey

Saturday, April 21, 2001 - 10:09 am Click here to edit this post
Aja, if it causes you this much pain, why not just
watch something else??

<puzzled>

Highlander, I think it is a bit of a stretch to say that Rodger was the ONLY one who did his best.

Highlander

Saturday, April 21, 2001 - 10:32 am Click here to edit this post
point taken Sea, but I still think Rodger worked the hardest of all of them and instead of sitting and staring at a fire he was up and around trying to do whatever he could. Perhaps I am wrong but that was just my impression.

Moondance

Saturday, April 21, 2001 - 10:55 am Click here to edit this post
Rodger was a very hard worker and I really don't see the others work as hard as he does... JMO

I agree Aja... the show could use some tweaking... if they are going to go to different locals... really take advantage of it... for example, they could have had scuba adventures/challenges... again JMO

Seamonkey

Saturday, April 21, 2001 - 12:10 pm Click here to edit this post
Rodger is obviously a hard worker, and a caring person!!

But remember you only see what they show you, and even then some of the others have also worked hard.

And I definitely agree that they could take advantage of their locations, use them instead of just flying over them for scenic shots.

Moondance

Saturday, April 21, 2001 - 12:14 pm Click here to edit this post
I agree we don't see it all!... but what we did see (thats all we can go) Rodger was always the first up.... gathering fire wood... cleaning the camp... also after the flood he gathered their scattered belongings for days after... so from what I saw he worked the hardest! JMO

Highlander

Saturday, April 21, 2001 - 12:19 pm Click here to edit this post
In in interview Rodger said he was always looking for something to do for two reasons; one because he wanted to fight the boredom and second, to prove to himself that he could do it, age notwithstanding. He said he never expected to go as far as he did in the game so his participation was more an exercise for himself to prove he could withstand the hardships and survive. Of course he added he wanted to win the million too but it wasn't the main motivator.

Merlin

Saturday, April 21, 2001 - 12:44 pm Click here to edit this post
As I have watched the lastest episodes and seen the survivors have sleepless nights having to deal with rain and waking up wet, I have wondered why they do not take steps during the day to do more to alter this.

The new shelter that was erected after the creek flooded them out appears to be built on the side of a hill. Why have they not diverted the runoff to go around their shelter? There appears to be a lot of tall grass surrounding their camp area, why not continue to build the "thatch" roof so that water does not leak into their sleeping area?

When I watch them sitting around a fire or playing backgammon during the day, they do come across to me as survivors. They are surviving the circustances they have been put in and not taking a more active role in improving the conditions.

Highlander

Saturday, April 21, 2001 - 12:50 pm Click here to edit this post
Merlin, my take is that they know its a TV show and there is no way the organizers will let them die of starvation or drowning (a little burn they can handle).

Its like the challenge for tortilla chips. I think deep down they know that they have to be miserable but it wont be life threatening. I think I would have the same view myself, although staring into a fire would not be my thing. I think I would be off like kel trying to catch fish, or looking for wood. Something to make the day go faster.

Then again, they may be afraid to go off on their own because the people behind may plot against them. Perhaps since it is so near the end they just want to keep an eye on each other and the fire.

Grod

Saturday, April 21, 2001 - 12:50 pm Click here to edit this post
Aja, you made my day, I am laughin so hard about your comments. I also agree with you on everything you are saying.