Archive through March 31, 2001
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Archive through March 31, 2001
Grooch | Friday, March 30, 2001 - 09:21 am  You just had tribal council and found out your own team lied to you and voted your best friend out. Who can you trust? Do you stick w/ your team and keep picking off Kucha? Or do you go over to Kucha and pick off your old team? She is a wild card now, and payback can be a b*tch. |
Leap | Friday, March 30, 2001 - 09:27 am  I have been thinking about her. She seems so naive. It looks like she just followed whatever Jerri told her. It also appears that the rest of the group ignores her when it comes to plotting and strategizing. Maybe there is an aggressive part of her personality we haven't seen. Otherwise, she will be easily talked into joining another alliance. |
Lancecrossfire | Friday, March 30, 2001 - 09:59 am  One possibility for her not being included is the rest knowing that she's going to go with what Jerri says. With that approach, there wouldn't be a reason to include her in any strategy meeting--although I bet they all were grouped in a meeting when they voted Jeff and Alicia off--we just didn't get to see it on TV. What will she do now?? Heck of a question! If she sides with Kucha, she does so knowing they voted for Jerri just as her Ogakor mates voted. So, what's to gain there? She still could though, just to shake things up. Or she could strike out on her own and try to make an alliance of her own. I'd be surprised at that one, though. Maybe the other Ogakors will sit her down, explain what a pain in the back side Jerri was to all, and tell her that it's back to shooting Kuchas in a barrel. |
Rollerboy | Friday, March 30, 2001 - 10:03 am  If I were Amber, (ugh!, a giant shivering twitch just coursed the entire length of my body) I would pack my bag, curl into the fetal position and wait till the next banishment to be over; where I would be reunited with my master, Jerri |
Lancecrossfire | Friday, March 30, 2001 - 10:15 am  Rollerboy, I'm thinking my above situation is the only chance the Ogakor people have. If Amber goes over to the other tribe, they will be picking Ogakors off. Of course the rice for something thing we saw might throw a wrench into this whole thing. MB has a talent for doing such things. |
Wilsonatmd | Friday, March 30, 2001 - 10:59 am  Actually now, everyone has given the power to Amber. She is now the swing vote. She has no loyalty to anyone, and can determine which of the two main groups left goes on to at least the Final 4 (GO TERPS!...sorry, wrong Final 4.) |
Rollerboy | Friday, March 30, 2001 - 11:06 am  I agree Lance, but would the other tribe even have her. I think (barring the IC and the twisted MB) that she is in a lose lose situation regardless. |
Rollerboy | Friday, March 30, 2001 - 11:11 am  Don't you think that that fact alone makes her a marked person Wilson? I think the others would risk changing the uncertain balance of power just to be rid of the variable. |
Grooch | Friday, March 30, 2001 - 11:18 am  Rollerboy, if they vote Amber off next, then it will be 3 against 3 again. Kucha knows that Colby has many votes (can't remember how many, but it's alot) against him, so unless he wins immunity, he'll be next and then Kucha can pick off Ogakor. So I think she is very important for this next round. Then after that I would vote her off the very next time no matter what team I was on, for the very reason you stated above. Of course, unless this rice thing screws everything up. |
Rollerboy | Friday, March 30, 2001 - 11:29 am  I'm probably wrong (can't believe I just said that ) but I sort of feel that last night marked the end of the whole us against them thing. I see more lip service than commitment at this point. I'm looking at every man for himself to rear it's head. I don't think Colby is worried, he's my first pick to win the IC's. I think he let Nick have a free ride last night. |
Wilsonatmd | Friday, March 30, 2001 - 11:45 am  Its a matter of numbers now. You have 2 pretty solid groups of 3 people plus Amber. Next week, one of the groups can get back in control of the game by being aligned with Amber. Then you have one group of 3, one of 2, and Amber. THEN you get rid of Amber, and it's 3-2 and the group of three is in control other than the immunity wild card. Amber could help herself by getting immunity, but I think she will not be eliminated next week. This will be a key vote next time around, we might have a good idea who the final three could be after this. |
Admin | Friday, March 30, 2001 - 11:49 am  She's toast... |
Lancecrossfire | Friday, March 30, 2001 - 01:20 pm  Ok, I'll throw another possibility out. It may have been mentioned already, so sorry if I step on any copywrite material. Amber now turns against Colby, and with his 4,200 votes cast so far (ok, it's a bit less than that) gets all of Kucha to vote for him. Of course Kucha is already thinking this because they know he's got a good chance at future IC wins. So, they go to Amber to get her help. On the way to meet each other, they bump heads on the trail, and knock each other out. Unfortunately for Colby, they come to in time to vote his coral-collecting butt off the show. If Colby wins an IC, then Amber cries and Colby takes her under his wing and convinces her Nick must parish. (and Ogakor is back to sniper attacking) He and Jerri are now in the jury, and Jerri tries to jump him. Ok, that last part doesn't really happen. |
Twiggyish | Friday, March 30, 2001 - 06:42 pm  Amber doesn't seem to have her own personality. I see her as a "weak link". |
Misslibra | Friday, March 30, 2001 - 11:13 pm  Amber right now needs to snap out of it and show that she is her own person, and not just a follower. Even though this will be to little to late. But who knows maybe she's ready to go since Jerri isn't there any longer. She might like the ideal of joining Jerri on the jury, and deciding the fate of her fellow tribe members. |
Riviere | Saturday, March 31, 2001 - 01:50 am  What a good question.. I probably don't think like Amber since I wasn't comfortable even to watch Jerri on TV, but strategy? She needs some alliance being the outsider now. IF she stayed with Ogakor voting AND made a pact with Colby, they pick off the Kuchas and then turn on Keith & Tina, so they're the final 2. In which case who gets the jury vote? Possibly Amber herself but more likely Colby, but 2nd place isn't too bad! All depends upon whose neck the Immunity Necklace falls. If Amber sides with Kucha, her only hope of finishing well is make a pact with Nick and pick off the Ogakor, then presume Nick wins next immunity and doesn't sell Amber out. They could be the final 2.. She needs one of the strong men as a partner, to help her place better than 5th. She can help Colby or Nick, if THEY are ready to shoot for #1; remember the Lisa-Rodger and Keith-Tina alliances are deep so far. Another solidly allied pair could split either. At least Colby's seen Amber's loyalty longevity. Plus, why would Amber or anyone join an alliance of 2 just to be their 3rd wheel to use? So if I were Amber, I'd gladly offer Ogakor, then Colby, my alliance and hope for the best. I know Keith & Tina want to have themselves and L-R in the final 4, well who wouldn't? A strong pair vs. weaker physically. Amber has the swing vote next time and the power to get into winning position if she uses her head for once. Scary that she could win this but it makes for the most exciting show yet..  |
Moondance | Saturday, March 31, 2001 - 08:03 am  I mentioned this in another thread ... everyone is forgetting the strategy convo over backgammon Amber and Colby had ... there has always been something there between them ... it would also explain the coldness Jerri and Amber supposedly have now that the game is over. |
Merlin | Saturday, March 31, 2001 - 02:54 pm  In order for Ogakor to keep Amber on their side for the remainder of the voting, I would think Colby has some explaining to do. It would be resonable that Amber is going to distrust Colby after his telling Amber and Jerri that he was going to align with them to vote out Tina and Keith. It would seem like Amber is left feeling like a complete outsider now with her old team mates. If Amber continues to vote along the lines of Ogakor, she would have to realize that she would be the first to go when it is only the four of them left. My thought is Amber would prefer to have Kucha as her competition for the immunity challenges if she is going to be left in the final four. Hopefully Amber would consider that her Ogakor team may eliminate one more from Kucha and then turn on her like they did with Jerri. Amber is going into the next episode with all the power. I hope she is thinking about what she could do with this power. |
Merlin | Saturday, March 31, 2001 - 02:56 pm  I put that post in several different paragraphs. Is there a mechanic available to do a tune up on this site? |
Lancecrossfire | Saturday, March 31, 2001 - 02:59 pm  I think she's an outsider either way. The Kucha folks are going to pick her off first as well if they can get rid of the Ogakors. Her best hope is to stay with Ogakor--she has zero bonding history with Kucha compared to Ogakor. I think she's in a lose-lose situation, as fourth place is her best hope with either of them. Now it's just who she wants to get at the most before going out herself. (IMHO) I agree she has all the power this time around--but just for this time around. Of course it's better than having none at all! |
Merlin | Saturday, March 31, 2001 - 03:23 pm  I agree Lance, Amber has to at least be feeling like an outsider at this point. It has not been shown that she has bonded that much with Keith or Tina from what I have seen. Most of her conversation has been shown with Colby when she wasn't talking to Jerri. If Colby spends the next three days in denial that Amber could be adversely effected by their dumping Jerri, Elizabeth or Roger could bring Amber to their side. |
Lancecrossfire | Saturday, March 31, 2001 - 03:56 pm  Agreed that they haven't showed much of Amber outside of her interaction with Jerri and some with Colby. I'm thinking that may be the help the Ogakors need. Someone had to talk Colby into voting for Jerri too--and everyone has commented that Tina didn't say anything, as far as being on camera. I wonder if we didn't see it when Tine piped in with Keith to help convince Colby? Maybe between the way with words Tina might have, as well as Colby's established relationship with Amber (although not strong), they can over come any effort Elisabeth tries to influence Amber over to the Kucha side?? Convince Amber to get rid of Kucha and keep it in the family so to speak. All they have to do is tell her that Nick, Roger and Elisabeth aren't going to do her any favors since they've already picked them off for the most part. The one thing I think they will try to impress upon Amber is that with Kucha out of the way, it will be an Ogakor win for 1-4. Tina and Colby may even try to let her know that Keith could be on the block after Kucha, just to draw her in with one more tidbit. Heck, if Tina is more in favor of Colby than Keith, it actually could happen. Remember Keith still owes Tina for the fact he's even still in the game at this point! Collection will come due sometime before the game. Ok, the post ran it all into one paragraph even though I did it as a number of paragraphs. |
Moondance | Saturday, March 31, 2001 - 04:29 pm  Whose to say Amber didn't know everything that was going down... I still think there is more to story than we are seeing... there has to be a reason that Jerri and Amber are not friends now. |
Merlin | Saturday, March 31, 2001 - 06:25 pm  There is always more to the story than we are seeing.................If Amber knew Jerri was being voted out and didnt say anything to Jerri, I could understand the no longer friends now............If Amber made it to the final two and Jerri voted for someone else to win, then the end of the friendship could happen..........If the taping of the episodes ended and Amber and Colby spent a week or two behind locked doors in a room together, Jerri more than likely would end the friendship............If Colby gets voted out in the next three days, I am looking for Amber to be in the final two. |
Seamonkey | Saturday, March 31, 2001 - 06:31 pm  I think it behooves all of them to keep Amber around for awhile so that she'll bond with some of them. If she goes immediately she'll remain "Jerri's second vote" on the jury. On the other hand, she may be relieved to have Jerri out of there :) Jerri in interview mentioned seeing Colby recently when they did eco-challenge.. (or extreme challenge??) She mentioned travelling with Alicia, and just smiled her crocodile smile when Richard mentioned that Kel had said he wasn't looking forward to seeing Jerri again. No mention of Amber at all And, yes the paragraphs are running together. :( |
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