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Flint

Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 08:28 pm Click here to edit this post
Ok...you have hooks and grasshoppers to fish with...a turtle is eating the grasshoppers and getting the hooks. Ever hear of EATING the turtle?

The name of the game is SURVIVAL. Turtle is edible. So are the grasshoppers they are expending soooo much energy to catch. I almost hate to say it, but they need Mike. He would have been out there HUNTING.

What I find really strange with some of these people, and some from the 1st Survivor, is that they either had survival training, through the military, or actually took a survivalist course before going. yet, they seem to ignore stuff that is edible.


Richard would torment the snakes, yet wonder about catching fish. The snakes are edible. Cut them below where the poison glands are then gut them.

The turtles are edible. Snakes are supposed to be numerous in Australia. He!! the crocs, i refuse to says Gators, are edible. yet they seem to think there is no food around.

kind of funny, or is it ironic? I will have to ask Alanis Morrissette. ;)

Flint

Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 08:29 pm Click here to edit this post
Not to harp on it, but hey, taht is what we do best on the net. ;) They would be better off putting the fish in some water with rice and making a soup than just each eating a little bit of fish.

Gail

Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 08:50 pm Click here to edit this post
I know that I read that the kangaroos were considered a protected species as were a few other things there.

Moondance

Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 09:18 pm Click here to edit this post
I believe the turtles, crocks, ros and the one bird I can't think of the name right now are under protection along with coral and the barrier reef! :)

Seamonkey

Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 09:20 pm Click here to edit this post
I read that the turtles were also off limits. and the Roos and I think the emus to.

I'm pretty sure they'd have eaten a turtle otherwise.

Moondance

Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 09:24 pm Click here to edit this post
Emus... thank you Sea... I couldn't remember their name!

Lancecrossfire

Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 09:29 pm Click here to edit this post
The shots they had of the Emus tonight were great. A beautiful bird for being so big (although I'm partial to birds as pets)

Moondance

Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 09:33 pm Click here to edit this post
I loved that shot... I also love the crocks and I adore the ros!

Seamonkey

Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 11:39 pm Click here to edit this post
Moon, we were obviously posting at the same time.. you remembered the crocs.. I wasn't sureabout them.

The emus were cool tonight.

But I have to admit that my favorite shot every week is when the Croc snaps his jaw shut right in time with the YO! or whatever syllable in the song.. well ok.. the song is synched to the Croc, but.. it brings a smile each week.

Fruitbat

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 12:32 am Click here to edit this post
They were also told not to forage. There is too much poisonous flora and not much edible even if they could easily tell. That was one of the reasons why Jerri still thinks Kel had jerky. They were told not to eat any plants so to put grass or bark (his story changed) in his mouth was questionable.

Riviere

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 02:30 am Click here to edit this post
They are fairly ignorant about food, and what's with the rice anyway? Rice isn't one of my fave foods (around here I refer to the stuff as 'weeds' only eaten as a last resort) because it has nil nutritional value, just a starchy filler to fool your stomach into thinking you ate something. Might as well eat stale breadcrumbs, no wonder the players are starving. I was in total disbelief when they were burying uneaten fish parts. They had a fish trap, don't they know baiting that with fish parts would catch more fish? Duh. They could have been eating bugs all along and they'd have eggs now if it wasn't for Lord of the Flies disorder, and what happened to the fish trap anyway? Did someone dismantle it? MB should forget the total rice diet and add some bouillon cubes at the least to supply more nutrition plus flavor. These players came in way too skinny trying to be camera-buff and it's not pleasant seeing them get weaker with malnourishment. They're too dumb to survive in a real survival situation, it's a game, MB should know that as well as we know it. It doesn't help them being camped where so much is off limits either. Maybe they should have all Survivor shows at the same island they filmed S1 with the same food options. If the Outback is this bad what happens when they get to South America or Africa? The S3 applicants better start packing on 10+ lbs. and prepare for hunger later! Who wouldn't be willing to gain some weight for a shot at a million bucks and being at their normal weight or less a month later? :)

Gail

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 03:51 am Click here to edit this post
I would guess the fish trap was left behind when they got the word that they had 10 minutes to grab all their stuff and hike to the new merged camp. There probably wasn't time to get the fish trap.

When they first started showing Keith chasing grasshoppers, I thought he was getting them for the survivors. I was pretty relieved when I found out he was getting them for fish bait.

:)

Misslibra

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 04:35 am Click here to edit this post
I thought they were getting them to eat to. Hey if it came down to it they could eat them. I hear fired grasshoppers are very good.

Fruitbat

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 06:55 am Click here to edit this post
I wonder if MB will supply brown rice in the future. Bouillon has no nutrional value either. Miso would work. These guys are in much worse shape than S1. Rich was catching fish everyday.

A little more food would give them some energy to have disputes. As it is now, there is not a lot of action. There must be a lot of napping on the cutting room floor.

This is a TV show and they appear to be in pretty rough shape. And for entertainment value? There is a doctor at hand and they get weighed everyday. There is so much we do not see. Could they be getting vitamin supplements and B12 shots?

We will never know. They are under contract (15 pages ) that lays out exactly what they can and cannot say. A lot of the logistics are off limits. They cannot write a book or speak of anything that happens off camera. That is why Stacey cannot call Sean and Dirk as witnesses. I am the most curious about the behind the scenes stuff. At some point MB will release more of that himself. I know there is a video out. Anyone seen it?

Flint

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 07:25 am Click here to edit this post
I knew crocs were a protected species, and roo's. (Hey, I watched Croc Dundee 1 AND 2!!!! ;)) Didn't know about the turtles.

Of course this gets back to one of my main beefs about survivor, it isn't true survival. Someone stranded wouldn;t be worried about this or that law. they would be gorging on turtle soup, croc, emu. (Actually emu is supposed to be tasty, some farmers around here have been breeding them. Emu steak is supposed to be a lot like......beef, Not chicken. :) )

You would think that Survivor either owuld have gotten permission from the government to let them have some (not likely) OR at least take into account the fact they COULD catch them. If they could say catch and release a turtle, they get the equivalent in chicken meat or something like that. If the show is about survival, limiting their ability to get foodstuffs in that manner seems to go against the grain.

Good points Riviere. I would have thought they would give them wild rice, not white.

Considering they have a chef with them you would think at least one person would know how to stretch out food. Soups allow a you to stretch your food supply, and provide more nutrional value. You get more of the nutrients out of the bones, etc than you get by just munching the meat and tossing the bones.

Judy

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 08:03 am Click here to edit this post
I remember distinctly that the poisonous snakes in S1 were off limits

Of course there is no way to have actual REALITY on this show - like Letterman always says - they can always raid the crew tents and get ham sandwiches anytime they want to , or quit at any time.

And the production gets enough flack from PETA, et al when they kill anything. BTW - Have we heard from PETG yet (People for the Ethical treatment of grasshoppers)?

The main error that I have seen regarding food is the fish "waste" - surely Keith knows how to make fish stock...that would be a great source of protein and flavor for the rice.

Another is the rationing... , like JP said last night they had plenty of rations to last the entire time and a well stocked tackle box.

Fruitbat

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 08:38 am Click here to edit this post
Jeez.......This is a TV show not a plane crash in the Andes. Of course it does not dulpicate survival in the true sense of the word. (Neither does Monopoly on the board game) How grizzly would that be? There would be no rice or million. We would be voting on who they would eat first.

There is still a huge degree of discomfort and hardship. They chose it but to say it is not real in anyway is not accurate.

If you think they are whinning, you should see me camping.

Judy

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 08:44 am Click here to edit this post
Exactly what I mean Bat - this is a GAME, they volunteered, there is of course the realities of what these people are going through while playing this game which make it intriguing for us to watch. But to say that this is a real "survival" situation is just wrong.

Mishamisha

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 08:48 am Click here to edit this post
ROFL Fruit. You and me both. Camping? No freakin' way. I'll be at the lodge.

Wink

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 09:13 am Click here to edit this post
Misha I'll meet you and Fruit at the bar.

Fruitbat

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 09:18 am Click here to edit this post
Does this lodge have room service and real glasses in the room or plastic? Order me a Martini, I'll be down as soon as I wash the massage oil off. It will just take me a minute. Thanks.

Bijoux

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 09:33 am Click here to edit this post
On the Early Show a couple of weeks ago they said that the survivors are given vitamins, insect repellent, and sunscreen. In Survivor I Colleen was the only one who didn't use the insect repellent nor take the vitamins. They showed the bites on her legs and she also came down with scurvy while there.

Rollerboy

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 09:41 am Click here to edit this post
Riviere and Judy. Totally agree with the points you've made regarding the food, especially the fish stock/rice combo. I've never understood why they choose to eat the meat cooked on a stick and out of hand. Most uneconomical.

Fruitbat

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 09:50 am Click here to edit this post
Bijoux...Thanks I didn't know that. It must not have been reported widely and I wonder why. Colleens legs were disturbing and never once did she admit it was her mistake.