Archive through April 06, 2001

The ClubHouse: Archives: OK now SHAPE UP! ****Defend your picks!: Archive through April 06, 2001

Rollerboy

Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 10:58 pm Click here to edit this post
Oh yeah, almost forgot Moon. Props to you, I didn't think Amburnt would make it:). There's always next week though.

Seamonkey

Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 11:01 pm Click here to edit this post
Was she supposed to fight Nick off?

I don't see that Amber did anything unfortunate except being Jerri's toady and Jerri's gone.
She could still be a swing vote and Colby is still more vulnerable in a tie than Keith.
5 to 4 for them Amber and Elisabeth each have 2
and Tina and Rodger are still voteless.

Go, Keith, GOGOGO!!

Lancecrossfire

Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 11:04 pm Click here to edit this post
Moon, saw your post in the spoiler section. Thanks to Moon and Rollerboy for participating this late night. Hope to hear from more tomorrow!

Amber is with us at least 2 more weeks, IMHO.

Rollerboy

Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 11:08 pm Click here to edit this post
Say it ain't soooo Lance. Unless poor, ol Elisabeth goes instead!:)

Rollerboy

Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 11:09 pm Click here to edit this post
Almost forgot, KEITH STILL RULES!!!

Lancecrossfire

Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 11:23 pm Click here to edit this post
Rollerboy, if things go as they have been, then it's old tribal voting all the way (that would be two more times).

I am guessing that amber will find that safer than trying to make the change at this point. Tonight K/T/C showed her they were not after her, and went back to Kucha hunting. I she were going to change, she should have done it this past week when the count would be 4/3. If she changes next week, her best bet is a 3/3 split.

Just one of many possibilities though.

Fruitbat

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 12:26 am Click here to edit this post
I have to say......but then you are braced....... correct?.......Keith was arrogant and foolish tonight. He was doing a fine job catching the grasshopppers until he said that "Cobly could not do this." Or something to that effect. Jealously is ugly. Why did he have to self agrandize, he was doing just fine. Touching the teeter toter was stupid. He also stopped too soon, thinking he had it costing him the win.

I saw Colby and Tina building more of the shelter than Keith.

Colby was a little cocky tonight as well.

Elizabeth was the shinning star tonight. She really is a compelling and very nifty young woman.

Misslibra

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 05:07 am Click here to edit this post
Ok... Keith could of carried his back pack, but he chose not to knowing he wasn't going, I don't see anything wrong with that. Everyone help build that shelter but we didn't see Nick doing much of anything as far as catching food and helping with the shelter, even Elizabeth commented on how lazy Nick was. which is part of the reason he is gone, and the real reason Keith didn't carry his stuff he knew Nick was a goner.

Plus Nick said he was ready to go. Adding all of these things up common sense tells you Nick would be the one going. Keith used his common sense. To make Nick feel better should Keith have carried his back pack... I say no !
GO KEITH GO !!

And in the challenge Keith was just checking the water balance, should he have done that... no and Jeff told him to stop and so he did. what is the big deal. He didn't win the IC anyway.
GO KEITH GO !!

I'm so glad Jerri is gone we may finally see what Amber is made of. I actually like everyone who is left in the game. But we can only have three, who will it be ?

GO KEITH GO !!

Misslibra

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 05:28 am Click here to edit this post
Just saw Nick's interview, he felt Keith could of showed a little more grace, by bringing his back pack. And Nick you could of showed a little more grace and pulled your weight around the camp. I was wondering though why Jeff didn't ask Keith where his back pack was ??

GO KEITH GO

Fruitbat

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 05:44 am Click here to edit this post
I don't think Keith not bringing his backpack was all that bad. His fellow players did, however, and that is what counts. Maybe it would have been wise to follow protocol so as not to stand out as the next target in anyway. He is viewed as arrogant so it would be a good move to counteract that every chance he got.

Misslibra

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 06:02 am Click here to edit this post
Fruitbat, I will agree with that.

Misslibra

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 06:05 am Click here to edit this post
Oh wait I agree with part of that, because I didn't see any of his fellow tribe members complaining about it, except for Nick.

Fruitbat

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 06:28 am Click here to edit this post
I suspect that all see it but Nick is more verbal because he has nothing to lose in alienating Keith.....and MB could be editing complaints from the others, at this point, to have his departure a surprize.

Rollerboy

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 07:02 am Click here to edit this post
Maybe he just didn't want to haul a bunch of Target and Nike crap around and planned to purchase new stuff if (totally unlikely) he were voted off.

Fruitbat

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 07:32 am Click here to edit this post
No way can Keith win. If it were down to 2 and he was one, just who could he beat? Everyone on the jury has experienced his attitude in action even though they see nothing else from the time they leave.

Rollerboy

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 07:39 am Click here to edit this post
That's what they said about Richard last time. The dynamic of the jury has more to do with the outcome than the actual 2 left.

GO KEITH!!!

Flint

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 07:46 am Click here to edit this post
I can understand keith not wanting to carry his gear. Either he didn't care if he left it behind if booted, or, more likely, he expected Nick to go. Apathy/Altruism or arrogance. But yeah, that could come back and bite him in the derriere later. Especially if he makes it to the final 2.

Go Habs Go!

Oops wrong show.

Fruitbat

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 08:11 am Click here to edit this post
Roller said >>> The dynamic of the jury has more to do with the outcome than the actual 2 left.<<<

I don't understand what this means. They choose who they think deserves to win. Richard won because he played with integrity. His intent was clear from the beginning and Kelly had stepped on some toes with her duplicity.

Leap

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 08:49 am Click here to edit this post
In S1 Richard stopped carrying his backpack to TC long before the end of the show (I think it started after he won immunity in the fire challenge, if I remember right).

I am not jumping on the Keith bandwagon or for that matter, joining the anti-Keith brigade. But, I just don't think the backpack thing is a big deal. If he lost those clothes, I am sure he wouldn't care. They are smelly and worn out.

Lancecrossfire

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 09:02 am Click here to edit this post
Richard played with integrity?? The integrity of a used car salesman.

Let's see, he lied and he back stabbed. And if you want to talk about arrogance, Keith or any of these folks can't hold a candle to Richard.

Yes, his intent was clear from the beginning--to win. You can win by playing with integrity and you can win by being slimy. He did the latter.

Kelly, Richard and Susan all outright lied when Jeff asked them straight out if there was an alliance. The only reason Rudy didn't lie was that Jeff didn't ask him (for some reason).

You can follow the rules and still be a slimy weasel.

Fruitbat

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 09:11 am Click here to edit this post
I didn't mean to open a debate here. The jury that voted for Richard said this. Love him or hate him, agree or not, that was the basis of their decision.

I don't understand what this sentence means....
Roller said >>> The dynamic of the jury has more to do with the outcome than the actual 2 left.<<<

The remaining 2 are in a popularity contest, no matter how you look at it, in S2.

Lancecrossfire

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 09:27 am Click here to edit this post
Bat, friendly banter is all. Just like the jousting back and for about Keith and others. Just wanted to keep Richard in perspective compared to these folks.

Agreed about it being a "popularity" contest. The fun part of that is that the jury gets to define what "popular" means for each of them.

Jerri is going to vote against Keith no matter what if he's in the final 2. He could save someone's life, and she's still going to vote against him.

If Roger is in the final 2, I would expect Alicia to vote for him no matter who the other person is. I look forward to seeing why they vote the way they do as much as who they actually vote for.

Rollerboy

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 09:32 am Click here to edit this post
The jury obviously thinks that they,as individuals should have won and not the final two people actually being considered. That's just human nature. I just meant that it's not as simple as, who is most liked, or who is most hated. We aren't privy to the discussions they have after "the Tribe has spoken". Someone could vote for someone to win just because they had negative feelings about another jury member and wanted to block his/her choice for reasons that had nothing to do with the final two themselves (for example). Didn't mean to be cryptic, if I was Bat.

Flint

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 09:40 am Click here to edit this post
I guess the next question is, who will give a Susanesque speech when they vote for the winner? ;)

Rollerboy

Friday, April 06, 2001 - 09:44 am Click here to edit this post
I say Jerri:).