The Kimmi -- Alicia Nitpicker's Squabble -- seem familiar?
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Ocean_Islands | Friday, February 23, 2001 - 07:39 pm  Doesn't it remind you of the TV Clubhouse spats? What's wrong with women, anyway? Why can't they just get along, like men do? The men were rolling their eyes heavenwards. Seems pretty familiar, doesn't it. |
Azriel | Friday, February 23, 2001 - 07:41 pm  ~rolls her eyes heavenward~ |
Ocean_Islands | Friday, February 23, 2001 - 07:53 pm  Lol Not offering a theory, huh. |
Azriel | Friday, February 23, 2001 - 07:55 pm  I don't think I want to go there, OI |
Gail | Friday, February 23, 2001 - 07:55 pm  I'm rolling!! Just not rolling my eyes. |
Ocean_Islands | Friday, February 23, 2001 - 07:56 pm  Oh, come on! Let's go there! |
Azriel | Friday, February 23, 2001 - 07:59 pm  It's your spoon, OI. You can stir this pot all by yourself.  |
Ocean_Islands | Friday, February 23, 2001 - 08:09 pm  Awww. Well considering that you were in the game with me when all this spatting was goin' on, you oughtn't react. |
Max | Friday, February 23, 2001 - 09:14 pm  Have you ever had to deal with someone who just flat out rubbed you the wrong way from the minute you met? It's almost like a bad chemical reaction. Everything they do or say just seems to irritate you and if you don't have an option to get completely away from the person, you eventually just lose it and blow up at him/her. If you've never experienced that, then consider yourself lucky. It's NOT a pleasant feeling. I think that is the kind of dynamic that was happening with Kimmi and Alicia.
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Misslibra | Friday, February 23, 2001 - 09:35 pm  Ocean you baited and I'll bite the bait. Ok it's like this Men seem to hold their feeling inside, and Women tend to let there feelings out. Last night spat between Kimmi and Alicia was coming sooner or later. Ocean, you asked a good question because it does seem Women have far more cat fights then Men. Maybe it's our hormones... LOL But maybe thats why Women live longer then Men. We let it out while the Men hold stuff in. And holding all that stress in can kill ya ! So Ocean since your a Man my advice to you is to let it out... let it out. You will live longer if you do.  |
Resortgirl | Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 05:52 am  Misslibra, have to agree! Basically, woman want to figure out how everyone is feeling. Fix it if they can... Men simply don't care! If "their" world is OK.. then everyone must be OK! Unless of course there is a dispute over a piece of property. Then they will pull out all the stops. They will kill you, if necessary, to get back what is rightfully theirs. Go to war, drop the "bomb"... Of course, showing this much emotion on any one thing is tiring for men, so after they are done disputing they go back to their same uncommunicative ways. P.S."Property can include the remote control" |
Enbwife | Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 10:16 am  I thought that spat was hillarious!!! You could tell that Alicia had all this resentment built up inside towards Kimmi, and as soon as Kimmi gave her a reason, Alicia jumped all over her in a totally PMS way!!! I laughed my head off. |
Ocean_Islands | Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 11:38 am  It's the same old story: women express their feelings, and men get things done. You can see how all hell breaks lose when a man expresses his feelings as I did during Game II. All hell breaks lose and the man becomes the bad guy. Why is it that when women express their feelings, they aren't told to shut up? And why can't women hear men's feelings instead of taking them for judgments and criticisms? |
Gail | Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 12:26 pm  Ocean - I agree with you. I, too would like to know the answer to this question. Here is an example. In the office I used to work at one of the ladies would occasionally get some jokes in her email that were funny to women. She would start reading them outloud to some of the other women and they would all be laughing. I would just slink away. If men did the exact same thing, they would be in all kind of trouble. I would like to know why men get judged so harshly. I don't judge - at least, I sure hope I don't. I tend to give the benefit of the doubt in every situation. But, if a man makes a comment, he isn't even given a chance. Good example - Game II - Merlin. I am still angry about that scenario. I will also make another comment here - the sentence you said in your original post - "What's wrong with women, anyway?" Last night, I told Lance that I know of at least three men on this board who would have gotten b1tched at big time if they had said it. Actually, make that four. Guru made a suggestion last weekend and once again, it turned into yet another opportunity to criticize men. <sigh> |
Lancecrossfire | Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 01:32 pm  Well, maybe the guys don't care that Kimmi wants them all to be vegetarians. Maybe their approach is to provide meat for those that want to eat it. Kimmi's words don't affect doing so. Also some people believe that actions are louder than words, and actions can convey one's feelings as well as words can. Not saying one is any more right than the other--we all have to do what works best for ourselves. These thoughts are merely my opinions, and are not meant to be taken as the beliefs of anyone else on this board, or anywhere else in the world. |
Resortgirl | Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 05:19 pm  Sorry, I woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. Pissed off at everyone not just men....I'll try to refrain from coming here in the future when I'm grumpy! |
Karuuna | Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 05:21 pm  I think while women (in general) may be more verbally violent, men (in general) may be more physically violent. Is it that men let things go so long that they explode in a more ferocious way? Or is it the way sexes are socialized in our culture? Or is it that when we feel threatened we go to our perceived "strength?" Maybe it's some part of all of these things. I've certainly known some men who give great tongue lashings, and some women who were frighteningly physical as well. I also suspect some of male socialization is sports oriented, and therefore "getting along" for the sake of the team. But my best guess is that if you really left all of them out there long enough, and there was no end in sight to the food deprivation, you'd see more guys "losing it". Now, Lance, can I just use your disclaimer, or do I have to copyright my own?  |
Lancecrossfire | Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 05:38 pm  Karuuna, feel free to use mine if you want. You may not need one though--I don't think you've been accused of trying to speak for the rest of the board. I'm just trying to avoid a similar message again. (if it can believed once, it can be believed again) |
Misslibra | Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 09:36 pm  Hey Ocean I supported you speaking your mind. I wish Men did it more often. But to tell Women to shut up in the heat of the moment would of been a bad mistake. If you don't believe me try it sometime. Here is a example of how it would of went if you told me to shut up. Who the hell are you telling to shut up ... you shut up !! See you just can't tell Women to shut up like that. I take that back, yes you can tell Women to shut up, at your own risk ! LOL Me being a Women I would advise you not to especially when they are already angry. Gail, I think what your talking about is leaning toward a sexual harrassment issue. And what you said is true, about how Women can say sexual things and get away with it and Men tend to get in trouble if they do it. The reason for this is probably because the history of Men sexually harrassing Women on the job. Where as Women usually don't go around harrassing Men. I know there have been cases where Women have, but it is usually not the norm. Resortgirl, what you said sounded fine to me. You didn't seem grumpy to me. Karuuna, I think you said it exactly right. Men have always been taught to hold things in from childhood. Like when their told not to cry as little boys. |
Misslibra | Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 09:41 pm  Opps Gail you didn't say sexual things I did. But were they sexual things the Women were talking about ? |
Gail | Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 10:15 pm  Yes Misslibra, I would say they were sexual in that they were degrading to men. I would not appreciate sitting in a room and having a bunch of guys start in on jokes degrading to women. Nor would I want to be part of a group of women doing it to men. This is an office environment I am talking about. Women can not expect to men to hold to a certain set of standards if they are not willing to do the same. |
Misslibra | Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 11:16 pm  Gail said> Women can not expect to men to hold to a certain set of standards if they are not willing to do the same. Gail, your right about that I would agree. Just look at the incident where the Man was talking about a Jerry Seinfield show, and he was sued for sexual harrassment. If Women had been talking about it, it would not have been a issue. |
Karuuna | Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 12:42 pm  Lance, thanx for the disclaimer loaner. Do I owe you any royalties? As for speaking for the whole board, you're right that no one's ever accused me of that. However, I'll bet a few could rightfully accuse me of speaking till they're bored! |
Mishamisha | Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 01:48 pm  Nooooo, on the contrary. I'm glad you're back! |
Lancecrossfire | Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 01:56 pm  Karuuna, no royalties at all. Wow, now I have to come up with another disclaimer--I do the other all the time! |
Karuuna | Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 03:20 pm  Misha, you "mished" me?! Lance, (why do I keep wanting to call you Roger?!), you're on your own with writing an all-encompassing disclaimer. I try not to do too much advance work, because just when I think I've covered all the bases, someone points out an unanticipated place where I've blown it. I've learned to just keep a long list of mea culpas for every occasion at the ready!  |
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