Archive through April 05, 2001
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Archive through April 05, 2001
Fruitbat | Wednesday, April 04, 2001 - 05:16 am  Who do you think is off this week and why? Will new alliances form or will Ogakor return to business as usual? My guess: Ogakor will stick together. Amber is not as much out of the loop as it may appear. They did not tell her they were ousting Jerri because she would have told her and they assumed she would not vote against her anyway. I think she is well liked. So a Kucha goes. Elizabeth would be the wise choice. She is their biggest competition and they know it. She almost got the axe last week. Should she win immunity it will be Nick. Second senario: Keith and Tina get it that Colby is the biggest threat and reform with Kucha ousting Colby. They may continue to keep Amber in the dark fearing she will tell Colby and upset the plan. The tricky part is immunity. They cannot form a strategy until this is determined and there is little time. So if Tina and Keith were to align with Kucha, some fast talking out of Colby's watchful eye is crucial. If the challenge ends just before the walk to TC this will be next to impossible. |
Grooch | Wednesday, April 04, 2001 - 06:19 am  Good question Fruitbat. The hardest part is this thing about the rice. I just don't know if this really affects the outcome, (say they have to pick someone right now to leave or someone has to volunteer to leave) so anything we think is a mute point. Or is it MB and all his hype and it is really nothing that big that affects them. Last week, MB kept saying that last weeks episode was so shocking that everyone would be talking about it the next day. First of all, no matter what happened, everyone would be talking about it the next day. We do that every week. Second, when we made picks for who was to go, Jerri was a popular choice. It wasn't that shocking. I was thinking shocking would be the flood rumor coming true, or Rodger getting hurt, or if Tina got voted off. Also, was Amber aware of Ogakor voting for Jerri? Does anyone remember if she looked surprised at the tribal council. Maybe Ogakor told her about it, so she wouldn't feel left out and then side with Kucha. She still could have voted with Jerri just to keep peace w/ Jerri who will be on the jury. Well, I've done enough rambeling on now. Tina and Keith are the leaders now. I think they will keep Amber for at least one more round. Even if Nick doesn't win immunity I think it would be better to keep him than Lis or Rodger. They would have a better chance of winning the million against Nick than those two. In fact, Tina, Keith and Colby need to get rid of all the rest of Kucha. If they end up in the final two with any Kucha, Kucha will win the million. Since Ogakor has the power, Kucha never had the chance to really backstab like Ogakor. They are just treading water right now. So barring immunity, or this rice thing, I say Lis will be the next to go. I think both Keith and Tina would rather have Rodger there than Lis. She's too much competition for Tina and Keith likes hanging out with the guys. Ok, enough rambeling. |
Flint | Wednesday, April 04, 2001 - 06:29 am  The physio consensus is that either Amber, Nick or Colby will be gone. Amber if they still associate her with Jerri. Nick if they go back to voting along old tribal lines. Colby if they vote out the greatest threat. Most were leaning towards Colby. I think it will be nick. Mind you I have seen some good arguments as to why it would be Elizabeth. |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, April 04, 2001 - 07:36 am  Gooch.....I had completely forgotton about the rice. Polluted water and flooding are in that promo as well, right? Or do I have my weeks askew and that was last week and nothing came of it? I don't think MB would eliminate the TC or immunity challenge. Those are the backbone of the show. Who wins immuntiy and the voting create the suspense and excitement he aims to achieve. So I am guessing the rice deal is hyped just as the examples you mentioned. On the other hand, in an effort to make this show different from the first and shake up the formula he could change things, but I doubt it. The big suspense and interest is on shifting alliances. Why would he want to upset that. It is happening! |
Grooch | Wednesday, April 04, 2001 - 07:53 am  Here is something to think about from MB on Jerri being voted off: Producer Mark Burnett says that rather than eliminating dramatic conflict, the show "gains something hugely, because people were starting to think it was predictable. Her being voted off changes everything. "Who is the most fearful right now about the game? Amber. She knew nothing about that entire vote" that eliminated Jerri. "The tribal alliances have disintegrated. Now they're thinking much more along the lines of 'Who do you want in the jury? Who do you want to be with in the final two?' " to improve chances to win $1 million. Here's the site: http://www.usatoday.com/life/enter/tv/survivor2/2001-04-04-without-jerri.htm#more |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, April 04, 2001 - 08:46 am  Since they voted for Jerri, I will have to say that I don't see them paying much attention to who they want to compete against. She was one to save for the end. I went to that website and only found a very old interview with MB about S1. I lost patience. Easy to do as I have little to begin with. Anything else you could recap? I figured that Amber knew nothing about the Jerri vote. I think she is safe though. Why would anyone want her out at this point? |
Grooch | Wednesday, April 04, 2001 - 09:27 am  Fruitbat, I just clicked on it & it works. There is a picture of Jerri there on the right hand side. You have to click on the "To read more" line. But there really wasn't much more new to read. Why to get rid of Amber? Let's see, there's 3 Kucha and 3 Ogakor and 1 Amber. Ogakor must be worried about her reaction to voting off Jerri and whether or not she'll go to the other side. I think they voted off Jerri because they just couldn't stand her 1 day longer. Now that she's gone, they may have 2nd thoughts about it and are now thinking clearly about the jury. But then again, it might be more MB spin on his part. |
Grooch | Wednesday, April 04, 2001 - 09:31 am  Btw, does anyone know how votes each person has against them? |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, April 04, 2001 - 09:57 am  Grooch... the official site has a voting history page. I did click on that address and went there. Just too much. I did read some though. I have no doubt they voted for Jerri for that reason. Just illustrates that they were not thinking down the line at that point. I can see this senario: On the way back to camp after the TC when Jerri was ousted, Tina puts her arm around Amber. She says that she is sorry her buddy is gone but they were having trouble getting along. They apologize for not telling her and explain why. They make her feel a part of the group again and all is well. Amber had to have seen the trouble Jerri caused so it couldn't have been a total shock. I can't see Amber breaking off and joining Kucha. |
Grooch | Wednesday, April 04, 2001 - 10:07 am  Thanks, Fruitbat. I went and looked. If I counted right, it's: Colby 5 Keith 3 Lis 2 May not mean much now, but may in the future. |
Rollerboy | Wednesday, April 04, 2001 - 10:16 am  I like your theory above Bat, where Keith and Tina switch and oust Colby. Sounds logical and very plausible. I think the whole "rice" thing is just Red Herring/hype, like all the promos. |
Wilsonatmd | Wednesday, April 04, 2001 - 10:47 am  I agree with Rollerboy. At first I thought this rice thing was going to be major, but now I think they're not going to have to give up as much as people think they have to. While I think Amber might be a little ticked off about Jerri, I don't think she's a target, at least not yet. I think the former Ogas were going to eliminate Nick, but he won immunity and they realized that, for their sanity's sake, Jerri had to go. Amber realizes that if she wants to have a chance to get to the final four, she'll have to stay the course with K/C/T. Nick or Liz will probably go this week. Rodger, I think, is most likely the last Kucha standing. However, Immunity is always the wild card here. |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, April 04, 2001 - 11:59 am  I like it too Roller but it won't happen. That would make the teams even and Tina and Keith would lose their power. A Kucha this time and Colby next. |
Fruitbat | Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 05:32 am  I just saw Jerri's interview with Bryant. Nothing new but Bryant was tougher on her that others. She did admit that revenge plays a part in her jury duties. Keith has not a chance in hell of winning. Again a notable absense of any mention of Amber. She said Mitchell was one of her best friends. Saw a preview that I had not seen before. They are having an Auction for food tonight. They are each given money and bid on the delicacies of their choice. This may link up with the rice. Food of their choice traded for rice for the rest of their stay? Revision: I think Nick will go tonight. Liz is a bigger threat but they will not be able to choose her over Nick. They love her. Rodger will go before her as well, so if Nick wins the IC, which I doubt, it will be Rodger. |
Puttergirl | Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 08:32 am  Fruitbat- I hear people say stuff like this all the time... "She did admit that revenge plays a part in her jury duties. Keith has not a chance in hell of winning." What I don't understand is this- She only gets one vote and I don't see her as that big an infuence on the others? So why does everyone think Keith has no chance just because of Jerri? |
Lancecrossfire | Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 08:46 am  I saw the part where they brought out the rice and jerky, then the questions that followed. Two questions I can't for the life of me figure out why Bryant didn't ask: 1) why the heck didn't you cook the rice yourself?, and 2) what gives you the right to go through someone's possession, then not even apologize after finding nothing? At least she was honest about the Playboy thing. |
Judy | Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 08:52 am  Where / when was this Bryant interview done??? I get the feeling that Liz will win IC this week - just think she is due , that's all. I think Nick will go - unless everyone wises up and sees what a threat Colby is - hell he wins everything!!! Besides that blonde on the Early Show is going to explode if she doesn't see him in person soon... |
Lancecrossfire | Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 09:02 am  If only there was some way to get Bryant to explode. What a pompous condescending host. Kind of like David Letterman without any humor. |
Affinity | Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 09:04 am  About tonights show I think the most obvious reason to go with for bootee is Nick. We get this from editting. We all know, however, that going by editting is pretty "lame" but how else can we go by? I think there is a surprise planned for us tonight. They are going to play with the Survivors' minds and I'm not sure what's going to happen. But I bet we'll see Nick trying his hardest to get immunity again, and he may succeed. So, we know that we're in for a surprise tonight. A surprise would mean any of Ogakor getting voted out because that is not what we expect to happen since they are more powerful in numbers. If one of Kucha is voted out, then duh, theyre giving away the show! Maybe we'll see Amber perform the switcharoo. Maybe I'm saying that because that is what I want to see, although I'd feel sorry for Keith because he was my 2nd favorite after Elisabeth. Also, if Amber is not picked off tonight, I think the rest of the show could be pretty much predictable. My predictions for the final two if Amber sides with Kucha Rodger Elisabeth --> who wins? if Amber sides with Ogakor Keith Tina --> Tina wins if Amber IS picked off tonight we have a case of 3 vs 3, Colby having 5 votes will be the best vote for Kucha. Kucha picks off the rest of Ogakor, the final two could be Rodger Elisabeth. But I'm getting ahead of myself, lets see what happens tonight! BTW, my predictions are immunity free |
Rollerboy | Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 10:22 am  Lance, if you want to see Bryant explode, ask about his divorce(in progress), his wife and the support he pays her and the kids, or how he takes care of his mother. All topics will generate steam out his ears . |
Lancecrossfire | Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 10:31 am  Too bad Jerri didn't know/use that information when talking to him. There might of been a food fight. Bryant acts like such a dickweed sometimes. Although so does Jerri. Hey, maybe they should start seeing each other! |
Grooch | Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 10:34 am  He does like them blonde! Hee Hee Hee |
Leap | Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 10:35 am  Dickweed!! What a great word. |
Riviere | Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 10:47 am  What bugs me is Jerri's constant reference to the 'power' she has on the jury and how good it feels to get some 'payback' with her vote.. And she's tight with Alicia & Mitchell, but no remark at all about her lapdog Amber, isn't that weird? Can she be implying Amber does something to make her feel betrayed? Keith is almost too easy for Jerri to be so gleeful about, she never liked him and no surprise she'd never want him winning. Or is it all a red herring: Amber wins the mil after using Colby to reach top 2 and rejoins her master Jerri, they pay off the other jurists and take a round the world trip? LOL! If Jerri can manage to manipulate the jury as easily as she did her tribe getting Kel out, she should run for prez.. |
Lancecrossfire | Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 10:54 am  Today she said her giving Keith a bad time was deserved because he screwed up the rice. Since people make mistakes all the time, she must give people crap as much in RL as she did on Survivor. She doesn't seem to cut anyone much slack. I hope she sets standards as high for herself as she does for others. And Colby was so wrong for thinking drinking is a bad idea before hitting the surf. Sorry, that one still bothers me. In Australia it's against the law to take coral, but not to get plowed then go out into the ocean. Instead of DUII it would be SUII. |
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