Archive through April 08, 2001
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Archive through April 08, 2001
Merlin | Saturday, April 07, 2001 - 02:37 pm  I would think at this stage of the game that Tina, Keith, and Colby envision that one of them is going to be the winner of a million dollars. I would think that Amber, Roger, and Elisabeth are hopeful, but may not be planning for who they would have as the other choice for the jury vote. With the jury vote in mind, who would pick who to be with them at the end and why? I see Tina and Colby wanting to go to the end with Keith. Keith will attract the animosity of Jerri and Jerri will be busy motivating any others to vote for anyone but Keith to win. Nick is also anti-Keith but I am not sure if Tina and Colby are aware of the extent of it, other than the vote made against Keith by Nick. My gut instinct says that Keith is not as tight with Tina as everyone thinks. I see Keith voting out Tina and wanting to go to the end with Colby. Amber is a difficult one to read. I think she does have a thing for Colby and wants to go to the end with him. I think Amber would prefer Colby with her in the final two and would take her chance that Jerri would support her for the win. My choice for Roger and Eliabeth are each other. I can see these two as going head to head with each other and be happy with whoever was chosen as the final winner. The key to the jury vote will be Jerri. As an Ogakor team member, I give Jerri the honor of chosing who was voted off their team for most of the first tribal councils. Jerri has already begun her motivation/manipulation for deciding who will be the final winner when that vote is cast. |
Wink | Saturday, April 07, 2001 - 02:44 pm  It really pains me to think that someone as shallow, manipulative, and hurtful as Jerri should get to decide the final outcome. My only hope is that the fellow jury members will feel the same way about her and step up with a mind of their own to cast their final vote for whomever. If their vote is the same as Jerri's I only hope it's because that's honestly the way they felt about that person not because of her influence. To answer the question I think I'd want Tina or Amber. |
Lancecrossfire | Saturday, April 07, 2001 - 02:45 pm  If I was going for the win, I'd want Amber as the other person. These folks know it is a game, and there are certain things that I believe will be considered by most without respect to like or dislike. Things like being competitive, helping with chores, contributing to the team (tribe), respect shown toward others, and even a certain level of self confidence. Amber seems to have more or less stepped back into the shadows during most of the game, and especially when Jerri was around. It's one thing to be part of an alliance, it's another to be a puppet. Yes, nice does count too. It's just one factor though. Of course I could be all wrong about what the jury will consider. Before Nick got booted out, I would have wanted him to be the other person. He seems to have spent a chunk of time not doing much at all as far as any of the chores or moving camp. I think people would weigh that a lot. |
Moondance | Saturday, April 07, 2001 - 02:48 pm  Go Jerri! |
Wink | Saturday, April 07, 2001 - 02:52 pm  Ummmm Moon. Jerri's not one of the choices. |
Moondance | Saturday, April 07, 2001 - 02:57 pm  No but she has the power now! |
Flint | Saturday, April 07, 2001 - 04:01 pm  Ummm...yeah. She has the power to influence people who couldn't stand her and wanted her tossed out. Somehow, I don't think so. That is like saying Susan had the power in the jury of Survivor 1. Alicia might have some influence. Most of her tribe is going to be in the jury. (Still hoping Elisabeth goes far, so I refuse to say ALL of her tribe.) All of whom mind you could not stand Jerri. And it is also going to depend on who the final 2 actually are, and just how many toes they stepped on. I am surprised they don't have a special episode before the voting is done that focuses on the jury, and whatever voting strategies, or even alliances, are proposed. (If one shows up after this I will be calling you all as witnesses in my lawsuit against MB for stealing my idea. ;)) Getting back on topic, I would want Keith or Amber. Keith has stepped on a lot toes. Amber, the fact she carries the stigma of being associated with Jerri would help. Of course I would really want Elisabeth with me in the final 2, but only if I didn't want to win the million.  |
Puttergirl | Saturday, April 07, 2001 - 04:04 pm  Without a doubt, I would want it to be Keith. I like Keith and wouldn't mind seeing him win, but I think of the ones left he is the most disliked. Not only does he have Jerri on the jury, but now Nick. Also, if Jerri and Alicia got as close as we have heard, you can count on those 3 votes against him. Amber may have the stigma of Jerri on her, but beyond that I don't think she has made anyone angry. |
Puttergirl | Saturday, April 07, 2001 - 04:06 pm  Oh, by the way, everything I just said is assuming that I don't p1ss people off like Jerri did!!! I could be the one you want to be in the final 2 against!!!!! |
Moondance | Saturday, April 07, 2001 - 04:21 pm  >Ummm...yeah. She has the power to influence people who couldn't stand her and wanted her tossed out. Somehow, I don't think so< Jerri and Alicia have become close friends (Alicia doesn't like Keith for many reasons...one was the Jeff/spoon thing (all of this coming from different Alicia interviews, besides since when is Jerri friends with someone who doesn't agree with her)... Nick will be easy to influence, he has already showed distaste toward Keith... SO to say she has little influence would be wrong...JMO |
Tukuul | Saturday, April 07, 2001 - 04:43 pm  Actually, I don't see any problem with Keith. He doesn't have an attitude problem like Jerri and is playing the game well. I think Jerri is looking to get back at the members of her team that voted her out. She seems vengeful. I would suspect the only person she wouldn't have a problems with would be her pal Amber. However, I don't think Amber will make it into the final 3. I guess that leaves Rodger, Elisabeth, Keith, Tina, and Colby. This is a tough choice. If I had to pick one person to be up against for the final million, I would choose Tina. I really like Tina but I think Jerri would vote her out and assuming most of the council would be Kucha members, I would think she would be chosen as second place. It all depends on what original tribe we started on. As much as they say it's on an individual basis now, I still think the cohesiveness of the original tribes will play a big role in the choices. |
Karuuna | Saturday, April 07, 2001 - 04:57 pm  If opinion polls are any indication, Amber and Keith would be the ones to go up against if you wanted the win. They are tied for the least liked of the remaining survivors (sorry, all you Keith fans, but them's the facts!). I'd want to win *less* than having someone I liked in first or second with me. So I think I'd rather have Elizabeth, Roger or Colby (in that order) make it to the end. I like seeing the people I like do well, more than I like finishing first. |
Seamonkey | Saturday, April 07, 2001 - 10:33 pm  They are the two lowest on the cbs site, but Amber is considerably lower on the chart and has a downward trend, while Keith's graph is heading up.. Nick was lower than Keith and Jerri was down to 1.8 out of 10 when she left. |
Tukuul | Saturday, April 07, 2001 - 11:54 pm  That's cool, Karuuna but the question was: Which one would you want left with YOU if you were one of the last two people? |
Tukuul | Saturday, April 07, 2001 - 11:57 pm  Ok, so realistically and based on polls, Amber and Keith won't even make it into the final two. Now, if one of the remaining people (Colby, Tina, Rodger, and Elisabeth) and YOU were the last two left to be chosen for the million dollars, who would you want up against you? |
Moondance | Sunday, April 08, 2001 - 12:32 am  Hi Tuk! So since when does the poll have anything to do with who is voted out... Rich's poll from last year was always poor. |
Tukuul | Sunday, April 08, 2001 - 09:29 am  Hi Moon! That's true but it also seems that since Amber was in such a close race to be voted out with Nick this time that she is highly likely to go next show. Yes, it's just an assumption but I really don't see her staying much longer. She associated herself with a universally disliked person and it's hurt her pretty bad with the remaining members. |
Moondance | Sunday, April 08, 2001 - 09:31 am  Check out Merlin's Moondance theory BTW... there is always the ICs |
Karuuna | Sunday, April 08, 2001 - 12:53 pm  Tuk -- my answer still stands as it were written, even if it was unclear. If my only goal were to win the money, obviously I'd want to be up against those lowest in the opinion polls (Amber or Keith). However, if I actually were one of the last two remaining, I'd really want someone I *liked* and *admired* with me. I'd rather have deserving people make it to the end, even if it reduced my own chances of finishing first. Assuming I made it to the end because I was one of the most deserving (and that's one BIG assumption!), I'd be happy to finish second to a better competitor. So again, in order of perference, I'd like to be up against Elizabeth, Roger or Colby. |
Riviere | Sunday, April 08, 2001 - 03:17 pm  For the money, I'd want Tina in a jury vote. I'd never make it past the 3rd vote anyway but if I did, she'd be the one I'd feel most confident of getting win votes against at this point. She's also someone I would not mind at all coming into 2nd place to if she won.. It's about time a woman wins one of these things, heheh.. |
Tukuul | Sunday, April 08, 2001 - 04:27 pm  ok, Karuuna, I understand now and those are great choices. |
Wilsonatmd | Sunday, April 08, 2001 - 06:17 pm  I think a lot of it will depend on personality. If you're considered a "nice" person, you want a "nasty" person to go with you. If you are a "playing the game" person, you want someone who didn't "play the game" as well as you did, and you base your statements and answer the jury's questions based on that plan. That being said, I think the best person is Amber (Although that might backfire, as I think she could win if against the right person.) She is nice, but not as nice as some others. She's played the game, but not as well as some others. She's nasty, but not as nasty as some others. There are a lot of factors to consider, and you never know how Immunity, epsecially the last one, will change plans. |
Wilsonatmd | Sunday, April 08, 2001 - 06:20 pm  Oops, posted too soon. Personally, I'd want to go against Keith, and I would use a "Playing the game" strategy. |
Lancecrossfire | Sunday, April 08, 2001 - 07:20 pm  Karuuna, I would hope that your desire to be up against the best (or at least close to the best) would be accomplished by the way the game was going. Kelly was one of the finalists, as she won 5 ICs in a row. I would consider that to be quite an accomplishment, and would use that criteria to figure that she is one of the better players. Richard played to win, and without regard for my dislike of his approach, it was within the rules and he played out out well. I would hope the game is set up so that the final 2 left could some how be considered to be the better players, if not the best, by some sort of evaluation how they've done compared to what the game is about. I would also hope that like and dislike for a person is taken into account less than other things, like ability to play well, team work, respect of others, contribution toward work all along the game--those types of things. |
Seamonkey | Sunday, April 08, 2001 - 11:23 pm  By the way Jerri was on the news briefly tonight, said she got out just in time. She watches the others suffering and doesn't feel bad for ANY of them.. hmmmmmm |
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