Ocean_Islands | Thursday, February 15, 2001 - 05:25 pm  What's his problem? |
Guruchaz | Thursday, February 15, 2001 - 05:47 pm  Mike rohs! I ly him aloh! |
Ocean_Islands | Thursday, February 15, 2001 - 05:52 pm  yea but why is he so worried about his 'place' in the tribe? He's kinda insecure. |
Fruitbat | Thursday, February 15, 2001 - 06:46 pm  Michael is definately strange. The difference in both teams attitude about killing a pig is remarkable. Ogakor is taking the process in stride. Michael has created turmoil. Kimmi needs to settle down with the vegetarian bit. She made that choice for herself, fine. To say "What is wrong with you people" is insanely stupid. Surely she has come in contact with meat eaters before now and one would assume she watched Survivor I. She certainly knows the expression "you people" is inflamatory, judgemental and sure to cause desention. Each day she puts another nail in her coffin. I thought Michael putting the blood on his cheeks was over the top and simultaneously took wicked delight, knowing it would send Kimmi aroung the bend. |
Enbwife | Thursday, February 15, 2001 - 06:50 pm  I agree with the blood being over the top! Michael is very insecure but I would be too with all those backstabbing, throat slashing nuts around me!!! I think Michael upped his chances of staying with the pig killing... Kimmi's gonna get it next week from Alicia it looks like. |
Lancecrossfire | Thursday, February 15, 2001 - 10:15 pm  The blood was just a bit too much testosterone. They are in the middle of a big game--emotions and epinephrine will be running a little high for the intense and competitive folks. His problem? Not sure. Possibly focused to much that the food gatherer is top dog. It certainly has it's place, although I don't know if it's a good idea to hang your hat on that only. One thing I will say--he's got it right that the better you eat, the better chance you have in the physically demanding challenges. Also, the better attitudes will be with those who have had some good food. And he hates losing!! A good attitude to have in there. No guts , no glory. (did I say that!) |
Azriel | Thursday, February 15, 2001 - 11:16 pm  The killing was distasteful, but we are all too used to that nice clean meat case at the grocery store. Micheal did the dirty work so they could eat and it was probably a rush for him to kill the food and be able to deliver the goods. I can't blame him for his excitement. I like Alicia more and more, too. She is really a sensible person. |
Misslibra | Friday, February 16, 2001 - 03:49 am  I bet animal rights groups are probably having a fit about the gruesome killing of that pig. I found myself actually rooting for the poor little piggy. Hoping it would get away. But I must admit if I was as hungry as they probably are I would have been happy to see some meat. Mike will be one of the last survivors, I have no doubt about that. *Cough* *sneeze* *sniff sniff* *cough* *Sneeze* Ok I'm getting out of here before I spread my cold around.  |
Twiggyish | Friday, February 16, 2001 - 06:22 am  Mike is scary..sort of reminds me of the movie Psycho with that knife. |
Norwican | Friday, February 16, 2001 - 06:49 am  Mike had a "Lord Of The Flies" moment last night. I do think by killing the pig that his value to the tribe has increased. I think that maybe he was intentionally brutal in slaughtering the pig so that everyone else would be kind of freaked out and not ever want to do it themselves... therefore they may keep him around so that they can keep eating pork. I agree that Kimmi needs to tone down on the vegetarian bit... geez, they know how she feels... does she think she's going to convert them or something? |
Guruchaz | Friday, February 16, 2001 - 07:51 am  Mike seems fearless. It's also good publicity. You make your mark on the show, you make your mark when it's all over just like the Survivor I folks. |
Twiggyish | Friday, February 16, 2001 - 08:02 am  I don't know Gu.. But I do think he is making a mark and they will need him for awhile at least. |
Norwican | Friday, February 16, 2001 - 08:17 am  Yep, blood make-up makes for good publicity  |
Twiggyish | Friday, February 16, 2001 - 08:27 am  lol Nor. This truly is a case study in survival. Do people really return to savagery? What would any of us do to eat? While the others may have been disgusted at his methods, most of them ate the pig. |
Doc99 | Friday, February 16, 2001 - 10:40 am  I think Mike enjoyed the killing just a little too much. And I think the pig was doped up because pigs are usually faster than that one was. |
Affinity | Friday, February 16, 2001 - 10:59 am  Mike is definitely a weird one. He wants to stay badly so he's catching all this food. I think it's working though. He's going nowhere for a while, I believe Kimmi and Nick will go before he does, maybe Rodger too. |
Puttergirl | Friday, February 16, 2001 - 01:40 pm  Guruchaz, you were talking about how Mike is making his mark for when the show is over. I think Kimmi has the best chance of making a mark... as a spokesperson for PETA!!! |
Ocean_Islands | Friday, February 16, 2001 - 02:07 pm  Enbwife Thursday, February 15, 2001 - 06:50 pm ---------------------------- I agree with the blood being over the top! Michael is very insecure but I would be too with all those backstabbing, throat slashing nuts around me!!! LOL Lisa! Sounds like my job. |
Guruchaz | Friday, February 16, 2001 - 02:29 pm  I don't read Mike as being insecure. I think he takes charge and some people are taken back by that. Whether he smears blood on his face or eats bugs without a cringe, he's making his mark for publicity after the show is over. Watch and see. |
Merlin | Friday, February 16, 2001 - 02:39 pm  Doc 99, The behavior of the pig was something that stood out for me also. While I didn’t think it might have been sedated, I do believe it was all staged in the appearance of the pig. For example, I have never seen wild pigs that were traveling alone. In the wild, pigs will stay in small groups, from at least two to however many. Wild pigs would never allow someone to get that close to them, they have a very keen sense of smell and would have been long gone. People that I have talked to that have actually hunted wild pigs tend to do this type of hunting by trapping them in cages or by running them with dogs. The fact that this very young pig allowed a human to get close enough to kill it with a knife leads me to suspect that it was a domesticated pig very used to being fed by humans. It may be that we are supposed to consider the pig has escaped from some nearby home, but I had the impression that this show takes place in a very remote part of the country. The scenes in previous episodes of this pig running on the ground while being filmed from an airplane/helicopter made me think it was being herded in a particular direction. Along comes the one person who has expressed the strongest desire to kill something and be the hero/provider for his tribe, and we get to see hand-to- hand combat between Mike and a young pig. In my mind I could see someone from the producers staff shoving this pig out of a cage because they could see Mike waking up for the morning. Another interesting thing I saw was all the moans and groans by some of the other team members while the killing and butchering was taking place. I seemed to remember some of the same ones ooohing and ahhhing as they were enjoying the taste of Mike’s work. Do you think this team consumed all of the pig before it spoiled? Would they have considered sharing what was left over with the other team if any was going to be wasted? |
Judy | Friday, February 16, 2001 - 03:05 pm  Because of the forest fire I think the pig may have been disoriented or suffering from smoke inhalation or both. Even though it was a brutal scene I was almost thankful that Mike got himself a pig - the way he was stalking around with that knife I was afraid he was going to kill and butcher a cameraman and then try to pass it off as pork to his tribe! I really like Alicia - because she seems sensible and easy to get along with - I can certainly understand her getting sick off Kimmi's veggie drama though. Getting to have a hot fresh meal of pork or chicken in their situation should be a celebration - but instead they have to worry (or pretend to worry)about Kimmi off in the woods mourning the kill - that would definitely get OLD fast! |
Norwican | Friday, February 16, 2001 - 03:07 pm  LOL Judy... a cameraman, the other-other white meat  |
Lancecrossfire | Friday, February 16, 2001 - 03:28 pm  ...but, Kimmi is going to write her own ticket off. Let's see...she knew when she signed up there would be both meat and veggies to deal with. She must have figured she would get put with 7 other non-meat eaters. And she needs to realize they are about as happy with her whining as she would be of them trying to convert her to eat meat. besides, that just leaves more for the others. Oops, sorry, that wasn't issue oriented. What ever happened to the concept of "life in the food chain"?? She is needing to go off and find some plant life that's edible...maybe she's already doing that amd we aren't shown that during the show. |
Norwican | Friday, February 16, 2001 - 03:45 pm  Maybe there's some tapioca in the Australian outback and she will become obsessed with finding it like Susan  |
Seamonkey | Friday, February 16, 2001 - 07:13 pm  Lance!! The food chain... maybe some critter is eyeing KIMMI to see if she'd be tasty I wasn't clear if she'd be willing to eat eggs or not. Maybe we will see more aboutg the chicken, Kimmi and the egg next week. I thought the pig looked dazed and confused. Mike didn't seem to catch the pig, just slashed at it and it didn't even make a sound??? |