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Sbw

Friday, May 04, 2001 - 08:43 am Click here to edit this post
I would like to know why Tina said she wouldn't want Roger to win the million?

Wink

Friday, May 04, 2001 - 08:45 am Click here to edit this post
That was a surprise to me too Sbw. I thought she would have picked Nick cause she did complain about how little he did to help out. Rodger certainly wasn't in that category. Just because he apparently doesn't need the money seems a strange reason to pick him. It's not like he sat around on his *ss all day everyday.

Ocean_Islands

Friday, May 04, 2001 - 08:59 am Click here to edit this post
Perhaps because he was the CEO of a bank for twelve years. How he got to be a farmer, I'll never know. I would imagine he'd be very interesting to talk to about farm loans.

Twiggyish

Friday, May 04, 2001 - 09:01 am Click here to edit this post
Maybe she is hurt because he voted for Colby and not her.

Nancy

Friday, May 04, 2001 - 09:02 am Click here to edit this post
twiggy the question was ASKED b4 she knew who had voted for or against her ;-)

Fruitbat

Friday, May 04, 2001 - 09:05 am Click here to edit this post
She talked with him during the game and learned that money was not his motive. He is financially secure. We saw some of this conversation when Tina asked who needed the $ more, he or Bessy.

She smiled at him as she said his name. It was a knowing look and I trust Rodger knew exactly why.

Twiggyish

Friday, May 04, 2001 - 09:07 am Click here to edit this post
ok, I missed that Nancy.

Karuuna

Friday, May 04, 2001 - 10:24 am Click here to edit this post
I have a question:

At one point in last night's show, Colby talked about how close he had become with Tina and Keith, even used the "love" word! Then later, he dissed Keith and said Keith didn't deserve to win, blah, blah, blah.

So, um, where did the love go? :)

Bijoux

Friday, May 04, 2001 - 10:39 am Click here to edit this post
I don't know, but Colby and Tina have lacked a certain graciousness with all of their talk about how they "deserved" to win. Maybe they were just very full of themselves and giddy with being the last two survivors.

Karuuna

Friday, May 04, 2001 - 11:23 am Click here to edit this post
I agree, Bijoux, altho I do think Tina was a little more gracious than Colby. She did say at some point that you can't really predict the winner, that it's not only how you play the game, it's also part luck.

Jenhavins

Friday, May 04, 2001 - 11:30 am Click here to edit this post
I believe that Tina was going back to the fact that Rodger doesn't need the money and so she said his name. She figured that with a Masters degree and being a former CEO of a bank, that he was financially okay. She said Jerri's name simply because she didn't deserve it.

Bijoux

Friday, May 04, 2001 - 11:38 am Click here to edit this post
Does Tina need it financially? What does her husband do? I keep going back to the criteria of "deserving". They seem to apply it to both character (did they upset people, fight, etc.) and how well someone played the game (was someone "dragged" along or did they have a game plan). Could be she felt that Rodger didn't deserve to win because he didn't play the game to win. Except for asking Rodger who needs the money more (which was really just the difference in winnings between 4th and 5th place) discussions of financial need weren't shown.

Fruitbat

Friday, May 04, 2001 - 11:51 am Click here to edit this post
I suspect that she and Rodger shared more than we saw. When she said his name she looked and him and smiled knowingly. I trust his face mirrored hers.

The simultaneous truth is: they did feel love for Keith. They lived together for 40 days.
AND they did keep him in the alliance to attain the winning slots not because they thought highly of him. I see no contradiction. They showed integrity by admitting a fact that illustrated the complexity of the game and life in general.

Sbw

Friday, May 04, 2001 - 02:41 pm Click here to edit this post
I missed the smile. There probably was a discussion between Roger and Tina and he probably does know the reason why. Thanks... anybody else have any unanswered questions?

Wink

Friday, May 04, 2001 - 02:58 pm Click here to edit this post
Okay I don't want everyone to say Yes to the first part of my question. Am I a Dufuus? I honestly had no idea the Tina/Colby alliance was as strong as it seems to have been or was I just too focused on the Keith-Tina interaction to see it? Am I the only one? If so I'll put my dunce cap back on.

Bijoux

Friday, May 04, 2001 - 03:18 pm Click here to edit this post
I didn't know that the Tina/Colby alliance was so strong. Heck, when Amber was voted out I assumed that the alliance with Colby was over.

Personally I can't say what the smile was supposed to mean. Maybe she was just hoping he wouldn't be mad at her for saying that and vote for Colby.

Karuuna

Friday, May 04, 2001 - 03:19 pm Click here to edit this post
Wink -- if you're a dufuus, so'm I! I didn't get that it was that strong either. I did get that Keith and Tina and Colby was stronger than Colby Jerri and Amber. But didn't realize that it was really just the two of them, with Keith kind of like their little pawn.

I think there was a lot of stuff that got cut or not even filmed. For example, the Jeff-fish incident. And I remember Bryant assuming they hadn't had any heated philosophical discussions like the first Survivor group. Bessy piped up and said yes they did, but they didn't do it for the benefit of the camera, and most of it wasn't filmed. So I get the feeling a lot went on that wasn't even caught on film, let alone the stuff that didn't make it the final cut.

Moondance

Friday, May 04, 2001 - 03:58 pm Click here to edit this post
The only clue I had was when Colby said a couple of weeks ago "Tina is the only one I would trust out here".

Merlin

Friday, May 04, 2001 - 04:09 pm Click here to edit this post
Wink, the answer is yes.

Since you asked at least three questions in your post at 2:58 pm today, you get to decide which question has the answer of yes.:)

Guinevere

Friday, May 04, 2001 - 04:17 pm Click here to edit this post
To answer the original question, I thought that it was strategic; Rodger was the "nicest" one, the one least likely to be vindictive about being named (though, he did choose Colby!).

Wink

Friday, May 04, 2001 - 04:26 pm Click here to edit this post
LOL Merlin.

Nice use of clipart by the way!! Willi is going to be mucho proud.

Wink

Friday, May 04, 2001 - 04:29 pm Click here to edit this post
Thanks for the feedback folks. I had just assumed the primary alliance was Keith and Tina and Colby was the odd man in and out depending on his mood.

Willi

Friday, May 04, 2001 - 04:44 pm Click here to edit this post
I am mucho proud Merlin.

And...I thought the Tina/Keith alliance was the strongest too.

Twiggyish

Friday, May 04, 2001 - 04:57 pm Click here to edit this post
Good for you TK!

Seamonkey

Friday, May 04, 2001 - 07:52 pm Click here to edit this post
Colby said in an interview (last night or this morning.. all runs together for me) that most of his alliance with Tina was edited out, he thought to make it less obvious..

Well.. they sure did a good job of making it not at all obvious :)

Fruitbat

Saturday, May 05, 2001 - 06:29 am Click here to edit this post
I had no idea either. It took me by surprize when it came to light and now I see why. Edited. Good move, it certainly would have telegraphed the end and left no surprizes. There weren't many anyway. Only one....Jerri going.

Sbw

Saturday, May 05, 2001 - 03:48 pm Click here to edit this post
I thought it was a Tina/Keith alliance with Colby being "brought along for the ride". When Colby talked about "fibbing" to Jerri, he said he, Keith and Tina. I thought he was upset with Keith over the rice thing and that is why I thought he said Tina was the only one he trusted.

Fruitbat

Saturday, May 05, 2001 - 05:49 pm Click here to edit this post
I thought that too Sbw. They kept their tight alliance out of the show through editing. Good idea.

Scribe

Sunday, May 06, 2001 - 04:22 pm Click here to edit this post
Well, Hi folks. I actually caught the denoument (sp?) on Thursday..last five minutes...envelop openned...Gotta say I lost interest after Bess and Rodger got cut...

I had NO idea about the alliance between Tina and Colby except as said above when Colby mentioned he only trusted Tina.

Didn't they say that Tina was a nurse or something and made very little all her life? Or am I wrong there...

See you all at BB2...I am hoping for a good time!

Sbw

Monday, May 07, 2001 - 07:51 am Click here to edit this post
I think Tina being a nurse is a CBS "editorial". Someone here said she was a nurses aide. If the only job she has ever had that she made more than minimum wage was as a flight attendant, she is NOT a nurse.

Fabnsab

Monday, May 07, 2001 - 10:23 pm Click here to edit this post
Ok, now time for my two cents...I was shocked too by the Tina/Colby alliance but it all makes sense. She used them both against eachother. They both thought it was them and her alone. She waited till the end to see who was the stronger of the two then rode Colby to the finish line.They even both said in the reunion show that thewy would never have voted her out. She had them both fooled. She was one smart, conniving cookie.