Archive through February 21, 2001

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Guruchaz

Friday, February 16, 2001 - 07:40 pm Click here to edit this post

They showed Mike going after the pig and taking some swipes at it with the knife. I definitely heard it make a sound even though they didn't show him stabbing it.

I can see where people would think it was staged, even though it probably wasn't. Mike knows that if they don't get some sort of protein in their diet, they are going to have problems.

Misslibra

Friday, February 16, 2001 - 09:37 pm Click here to edit this post

Norwican good one. LOL

Judy ... LOL I think we will continue to see mike and his knife. Remember part of his strategy is to keep suppling food so he wont get voted off. It tickled me about his plot to start killing off the chickens as soon as possible.

I heard the pig making sounds as it was being killed. But I was also wondering what that baby pig was doing out by itself to. Because long before the fires started we saw a pig that was traveling alone. I would think the mama pig would be some where near by.

Noslonna

Saturday, February 17, 2001 - 04:19 pm Click here to edit this post

They were hungry. It was food. That is survival. Michael is a winner. He will do what it takes to survive.

GO MICHAEL

Egbok77

Saturday, February 17, 2001 - 06:47 pm Click here to edit this post

I know they were hungry. I know that Michael wanted to improve his standing by killing a pig. I'm sorry that I watched and heard a young pig being stabbed to death - IMHO, it was brutal and mostly likely staged by the producers. Did viewers really want to see and hear the killing of a young pig? I think Survior III will now have to take a step higher.

Heyteach

Saturday, February 17, 2001 - 07:34 pm Click here to edit this post

Geez, Egbok, do you really think any of this is going to get higher??? Or do you mean that in the sense of topping it. Michael asked everyone to help him corner the pig and we saw them move in to do it. Who knows how long it took--they may have been chasing that pig all morning and that is why it was finally so slow. Gotta remember they edit out the boring stuff. I was glad they at least didn't show us the pig while the deed was being done. It certainly is getting the show a lot of publicity! I don't like to think about how my bacon gets to the market either, but I am sure his tribe--with the exception of whining Kimmi--reallllly appreciated that dinner! With all the protein they now have they are not only comfortable but more likely to win. Maybe Kimmi will go out and live by herself under a tree...or a rock...

Noslonna

Saturday, February 17, 2001 - 10:07 pm Click here to edit this post

I was a young child on a farm when I first saw the brutality of pigs being slaughtered. The sounds and smells can still haunt me if I let them. But I still enjoy pork sometimes. Even if you are a vegetarian it should not surprise you that we slaughter animals to eat.

Riviere

Sunday, February 18, 2001 - 01:12 am Click here to edit this post

Michael showed his 'sportsmanship' by insisting the chickens be gobbled up asap instead of having eggs, and then killed the pig anyway. It did seem staged and I'm familiar with farm life. Michael admitted he wants everyone hungry and depending on him and saw fish wasn't enough. He's an idiot.. Ok, his tribe has a meat feast while the other is imploding early thanks to Jerri the Manipulator, (aka Jordan of BB?) and weaker physically. Just can't relate to S2 compared to S1 since most of these showed up buff & overly ruthless from day 1. My only faves now are Tina & Keith but if their own tribe doesn't hose them, the other tribe will anyway. It's been more about pairing off than a team alliance and Jerri & Kimmi seem more suited to Temptation Island than Survivor2. The show's a letdown after S1 where the players had it rougher.

Twiggyish

Monday, February 19, 2001 - 05:28 pm Click here to edit this post

Michael is needed right now, but I think he is history in a few weeks.

Jinkies

Monday, February 19, 2001 - 05:40 pm Click here to edit this post

PETA riled about ''Survivor'' pig.

Read about it here: http://tv.zap2it.com/news/tvnewsdaily.html?15681

Digilady

Monday, February 19, 2001 - 07:13 pm Click here to edit this post

PETA -

People Eating Tasty Animals, right?

Gee, now why would they be upset?

Guruchaz

Monday, February 19, 2001 - 07:17 pm Click here to edit this post

Oh, get over it PETA. It was a wild pig. Big deal.

Twiggyish

Monday, February 19, 2001 - 08:20 pm Click here to edit this post

PETA wouldn't like to see how rednecks and country boys treat wild pigs..lol
I just think Michael enjoyed it a bit too much.

Guruchaz

Monday, February 19, 2001 - 09:43 pm Click here to edit this post

Michael was just serious about getting protein in their diet. He's certainly not shy about hunting for food. Neither were the American Indians so I don't see what the big deal is.

Digilady

Monday, February 19, 2001 - 09:48 pm Click here to edit this post

Gu, I'm with ya.

It all looks so nice and slick in Kroger's. Wonder if some of those folks consider how it got there?

Egbok77

Monday, February 19, 2001 - 10:48 pm Click here to edit this post

Oink-oink . . .I'm over it. Very interesting reactions.

Riviere

Tuesday, February 20, 2001 - 06:36 am Click here to edit this post

After reading more 'inside info' about the pig debacle I see why it's being investigated. But mostly I stand by my view that Michael wanted to kill all animals and put their blood on his face for what reason? Feast early and starve toward the last weeks? Or will they conveniently round up another young dazed pig for Mike to show off his fearless he-man killing comes naturally side? This show is too staged and yes, compared to S1 it is a picnic in ways. I was raised knowing how to live off the land, but you don't kill except to eat, and you sure don't kill when you do not need the meat, and you sure as heck don't smear the blood on yourself like a savage. By the way, I'm Native American, and Indian (Asian) and we do prefer our tribal ancestry since there is no such thing as American Indian, really, Columbus had it all wrong, India's across the planet. ;) Just can't stand seeing Michael stupidly want to kill chickens when they did have plenty fish & rice and then ok, dine on fowl, so the pig really was senseless this soon. Kucha was never starving. I think "lord of the flies" nickname suits him and I can't believe I once liked him. Then again, I rooted for BB George and he was a disappointment. What's next for the Survivor series? How about the Arctic where they can club baby seals and put on some real entertainment for us? Duh..

Guruchaz

Tuesday, February 20, 2001 - 07:31 am Click here to edit this post

Mike DID kill to eat. He DID kill for the meat. I apologize for the misnomer. I meant Native American. Your argument starts out meaningful and then dwindles to babbling. I still don't see a problem with what he did but you are entitled to your opinion.

Moondance

Tuesday, February 20, 2001 - 11:51 am Click here to edit this post

I too am a Native American and agree with Egbok and Riviere ... good posts...JMO :)

Ocean_Islands

Wednesday, February 21, 2001 - 04:34 am Click here to edit this post

If that was a wild pig, I'm a monkey's uncle.

Just because it was covered with black hair don't mean a darn thing. They either drugged the pig or it was raised in captivity. There is no way he would have caught the pig by walking up to it.

That said, they needed to eat, and why not make them butcher the pig themselves?

This also shows, unfortunately, how the teams can be manipulated. The pig did not just come 'running by'. It was placed there to feed them. But why didn't the other team get one?

Twiggyish

Wednesday, February 21, 2001 - 06:58 am Click here to edit this post

Good point OI. If the other team had gotten one, it would not have created conflict and jealousy between the tribes.
It is possible the cards are being purposely stacked against one team.

We have wild hogs in our area and it is known you do not ever confront one. They are very dangerous animals. So why didn't the pig turn aggressive?
It all seems "fishy" to me.

Guruchaz

Wednesday, February 21, 2001 - 10:02 am Click here to edit this post

Ok, I wished I had taped the episode so I could go bck and watch it. I'm not a wild pig expert but now I am curious about seeing the whole ordeal again.

Max

Wednesday, February 21, 2001 - 10:59 am Click here to edit this post

I, too, thought it was a bit fishy the way they caught that pig so easily. I'm not at all familiar with wild pigs in Australia, but anywhere else I've ever read about them, they can be VERY aggressive and dangerous. They are also very quick. Wild boars can kill you if you corner them. This little piggy just didn't seem (a) grown up, and (b) very wild.

That aside, though, I was rooting for Michael to get his pig. He set out to accomplish something and he did it. Yes, he got a little carried away with the blood smearing, but no more so that some red-blooded American boys out hunting might do. It's an adrenalin/testosterone/"thrill of victory" kind of thing.

Oh, and for the record, I think Jeff is a sniveling weasel! He was so critical of Michael using the knife and their rope to make a spear. So certain that both would be lost in a fruitless effort to kill a pig. He even called Michael stupid for wanting to do this. However, he was right there going into a meat-lover's coma eating that little piggy! I live for the day when Jeff gets the axe off the show! (Okay, maybe Kimmi and Jerri first, THEN Jeff!)

One more thing. I hope Alicia kicks little Kimmi's butt this week. Why in heaven's name would you come on a survival show, knowing you'd have to live off the land at least a little bit, and then be so adamantly against eating meat? What did she think she was going to find in the outback for food, anyway? And even if she doesn't want to eat meat, calling others who do names sure isn't very smart. Begone, little Kimmi, begone!

Grneyedladye

Wednesday, February 21, 2001 - 12:56 pm Click here to edit this post

I had heard on the Survivor Blows website that the pig had been caught in the fire and was dazed and lost and tired. I don't know whether that is true but it does make it seem more real as to why the piggy was so slow.

Ocean_Islands

Wednesday, February 21, 2001 - 04:28 pm Click here to edit this post

Sounds like a good excuse about why a pig would suddenly show up and be catchable.

How did this 'fire' start, anyway? And how was it put out?

Why didn't it reach the camp?

Jinkies

Wednesday, February 21, 2001 - 05:26 pm Click here to edit this post

I think the fire would have reached the camp. But it was on the opposite side of the river. There was even talk, (I can't remember who said it) about getting in the river if the fire got to them.