I actually LIKE Rich and Sue.

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Fruitbat

Monday, August 07, 2000 - 06:59 pm Click here to edit this post

Most, absolutely hate these people. They are my favorites and have been from the start. Am I totally alone on this?

They are spunky, interesting and playing this as the game that it is. I find them fiendishly playful, bright, loaded self esteem and a joy to watch.

Bbgunner

Monday, August 07, 2000 - 07:45 pm Click here to edit this post

I liked Sue at first, but she's grating on me now. Rich makes me nuts. He's so condescending and c**ksure of himself! If he hadn't won immunity last week, I think he woulda been gone.

My favorite is Rudy, hands down. He doesn't pull any punches and he's a tough old bird. I'm rooting for him to be the winner!

Fruitbat

Monday, August 07, 2000 - 08:08 pm Click here to edit this post

I should have said that I favored the entire Tagi team. I like Rudy too.

I never thought I could warm up to a homophobic, misogynist. Curious....I have. Something about the way he presents himself.

I am too tired to try and find the words. I've been on this computer all damn day and have been reduced to a vegetable. This new emailing format is blessing and a curse.

Enb

Monday, August 07, 2000 - 08:24 pm Click here to edit this post

Fruitbat: Ya, I think you're alone! I can't stand either of them!! DIE DIE DIE!!

I can't WAIT for Richard to get booted off, he was **SO** gone last week but he went and won the dog garn immunity necklace!! Oh, I was SOOOOOO MAD!!!!

Skibum

Monday, August 07, 2000 - 09:28 pm Click here to edit this post

I think if Rich survives to the end, the others won't vote him the winner. They all know he f***ed them.

RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! He the man!

Losty02

Monday, August 07, 2000 - 10:48 pm Click here to edit this post

I think your right Skibum. No way is the jury voting for Rich. Saw a pic on a survivor of the final 2. It was Rudy and Sean, but I've seen so many final pics that were fake that I'm not taking it seriously.

Glass

Monday, August 07, 2000 - 11:12 pm Click here to edit this post

Fruitbat - You are definitely not alone! Sue, Rich, and even Rudy are strong, confident, self assured, intelligent,
capable people. For this they are labeled Bi**hs and Bast**ds. Although these folks have all made major contributions to
the "survival" of the group, they have never lost sight that this is/was a competition, not a popularity contest. They others
seem to think that they could get by with just their charm. This was totally naive thinking. We want them to struggle and
triumph over adversity, not just coast along to the end.}

Fruitbat

Tuesday, August 08, 2000 - 04:56 am Click here to edit this post

The show is telling a story working from the winner back. The show was not put together until it was completed. They are crafting a tale of good and evil.

They have chosen to show Rich and Sue at their most agressive. When the teams were seperate Rich and Sue were liked by their team mates. They survived being voted off. No problems.

They will not win because they have been edited as the people you love to hate. Rudy has made it through virtually unscathed despite his ornery nature. I think he will be the winner. Looks like they are setting us up for that.

Jaybear810

Tuesday, August 08, 2000 - 09:08 am Click here to edit this post

Definitely NOT alone! Rich, Susan, and Rudy are the only reasons that set this show apart from the vomitous BigBrother. I admit I would hate to work with Rich in RL but his scheming and manipulation on the show make it worth watching. Susan may just prove to be less dumb than she is pretending (?) and Rudy's asides are priceless. I hope they fry Kelly soon for her attempt to screw them over by joining the other pathetic alliance (as soon as Colleen's gone, ridding the island of the last of the Pongi's altogether!)

Fruitbat

Tuesday, August 08, 2000 - 03:47 pm Click here to edit this post

Kelly actually never did stray from the alliance. The promo set you up to think it would happen but her voting has been consistant with the Tagi's

Glass

Tuesday, August 08, 2000 - 06:38 pm Click here to edit this post

Fruitbat - If I remember correctly, week before last, Kelly did NOT vote for the alliance choice "Jenna". Sean's was the deciding vote. I believe that there were only 4 votes for Jenna. This was the beginning of the break up of the voting block.

Ginger

Tuesday, August 08, 2000 - 06:46 pm Click here to edit this post

Yes, Glass, you're right about the week before last--she voted for Sean BUT she knew Sean was voting for Jenna, so she could "waste" her vote. Last week, however, she went the party line and voted for Gervase, contrary to ALL the footage they ran during that episode, which made it seem like she was going to break the alliance (and most likely vote for Rich). It seemed like another cheap shot on CBS' part. I wonder how many viewers even picked up on the fact that she held true to her old alliance.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, August 08, 2000 - 06:54 pm Click here to edit this post

yeah....like Ginger said.

Glass

Tuesday, August 08, 2000 - 09:56 pm Click here to edit this post

It will be interesting to see what happens tommorrow. The promos seem very inflamatory.
Who will outlast the other Sue or Richard? I think that Richard's neck is next on the chopping block and Rudy will prevail over them both.

Fruitbat

Wednesday, August 09, 2000 - 11:00 am Click here to edit this post

I think it is too soon for the alliance to break. They have to get rid of Sean and Colleen first. I pay no attention to the promos. They have been misleading and false every week.

Rollerboy

Thursday, August 10, 2000 - 01:48 pm Click here to edit this post

Well down to 5 now. Time for Kelly and Sean to go next, I think. I see Rich grooming Rudy for the day it's just Rich, Rudy and Sue. Then Sue goes down. Between R and R (nobody on island seems to really like either) I think rest of cast will pick Rudy just to get back at Rich. GO RUDY!!! Only variable that complicates things is immunity challenge. If not for that I think Kelly would have been gone last night. Anyway, hope Rudy wins but can live with Rich also. He has played EXCELLENT game.

Fruitbat

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 08:04 am Click here to edit this post

The immunity neclace makes almost anything but......

Sue has never won it and won't (just a hunch).
Kelly goes next week, the men take Sue down the week after leaving Sean, Rich and Rudy as the last 3.

Hard to get a take on Rich's relationship with Sue. There is a bond and Rich does not see her as a threat. So he may not vote for her. The others will.

Wenko

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 09:55 pm Click here to edit this post

Every single person I liked is gone now. All of them thanks to Rich. I'm just hoping that as this race is now as tight as it can get that Sue, Kelly, and Sean break off and vote Rich off the island. He is the nastiest, most conteptuous individual on any reality show right now and I would rather watch Karen for the next two months that to see Rich win. At this point, Go Rudy!

Wenko

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 09:56 pm Click here to edit this post

Every single person I liked is gone now. All of them thanks to Rich. I'm just hoping that as this race is now as tight as it can get that Sue, Kelly, and Sean break off and vote Rich off the island. He is the nastiest, most contemptuous individual on any reality show right now and I would rather watch Karen for the next two months that to see Rich win. At this point, Go Rudy!

Fruitbat

Saturday, August 12, 2000 - 05:51 am Click here to edit this post

Funny, I started watching this show at episode 4 or 5. I got to know the Taigi team but they showed much less, very little actually, of Pagong. I never got to know really know them at all. The focus was much more on Taigi, so I never bonded. References were made about Gretchen being loved and the leader on the day she was bannished. I never picked up on that. I never knew, still don't, why Jenna continually received votes.

This has something to do with my perspective. I jumped in and got into the game of it all, first, without having warmed to the sweeter personalities, which is usually my way.

I am rooting for Rudy also.

Robynette

Tuesday, August 15, 2000 - 03:14 pm Click here to edit this post

I'm speculating that Rich is going to walk away the big winner. If he can keep Sue and Rudy in line, they'll knock off Kelly this week. (Unless she wins immunity, in which case, Sean is history) The alliance will then pick off Sean (or Kelly), leaving Rudy and Rich to vote off Sue. I think most of the people on the jury are going to respect how hard Rich played the game. Rudy just went along with the flow and laid low. I don't think these competitors are going to respect that as much as they will respect the all out way Rich has gone after the prize.

Or they could vote Rudy out of pure hatred of Rich... My money's on Rich, even though I can't stand him at all.

Fruitbat

Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 05:43 am Click here to edit this post

I was rooting for Rudy, but last night left a bad taste in my mouth. (his comment about not wanting to see Rich again ever) That wiped out his endearing display of forgetting everything in the reward challenge. I was anticipating this experience would temper his homophobia. Wrong.

If Rich was smart he would get Rudy out....and he may. Don't think that comment set well with him either.

Enbwife

Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 07:13 am Click here to edit this post

Rudy is cool - He is straight-forward and says what he thinks. There's something to be said for that kind of honesty. He is who he is. I doubt any of them would want to see the others after they leave. Coleen told Letterman that she doesn't want to see any of them ever again...
I'm glad Sean is off! He was a goof! Go Kelly Go!!!!

Jombie

Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 07:33 am Click here to edit this post

Nothing was funnier than last night's immunity challenge, and Rudy's answers..."I don't know" -
I fell on the floor laughing when I saw it!!! He is so cool, and funny and unpretentious - he didn't know the answers and he said so...no big deal...

He deserves to win...and if I were on the island, I would never want to see Rich again either... Rudy just has the cajones to say so out loud!!

Fruitbat

Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 08:16 am Click here to edit this post

I agree...Rudy forgetting all the answers was the highlight of everything to date. It cannot be topped. Loved it.

I am still for Rudy. Just gave me pause. Seemed so hateful but he is true to himself.

Sean and Gervase have said they keep in touch with some so not all feel that way. Sean even said he liked Rich and Sue.

Imunity could keep Kelly in. It seems so predictable that the final 2 will be Rudy and Rich that I hope I am wrong. Anything goes......there may be a shred of an alliance left between Sue and Rich. Rich made reference to voting Rudy off so he does not respect his agreement as Rudy apparently does.

Rollerboy

Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 10:17 am Click here to edit this post

Looks like Kelly dodged another bullet last night. Next week should be great.

Fruitbat-I imagine they all hated each other by the end of the show. Rudy was great on the island lore challenge:). I think that he knew he was safe so why knock yourself out. I think he's saving himself for that final immunity challenge.

RUDY RULES!!!

Glass

Friday, August 18, 2000 - 11:34 am Click here to edit this post

Was Rudy actually good at anything besides being a crotchety old fart??? He flubbed all of the challenges. The "Island Lore" fiasco was hilarious. He burnt their seafood (rays) beyond edibleness. Refused to take a bite of pizza after Rich (militaristic homophobia). Kicked people in the head getting up to go to the can at night. Yes, he was honest to a fault. But he complained about everything and everyone, laid low and towed the party line. The only thing he is surviving is himself.

Rollerboy

Tuesday, August 22, 2000 - 01:11 pm Click here to edit this post

That's about all any of us can hope to do. We are all our own worst enemy.

Fruitbat

Thursday, August 24, 2000 - 03:39 am Click here to edit this post

I'm thrilled Rich won! And totally delighted that an out gay man is front and center in something this big. Very nice.

Poor Sue. Jeeze. I think her anger stemmed from her emotional attachment to Kelly. Her heart felt betrayed. She choked up on that episode talking about Kelly replacing her best friend that had died 20 years before. Too bad she hadn't come to that realization. They clearly had NOT gotton past it. Kelly hadn't anyway.

Well great show and I'm looking forward to Australia.

Jayavy

Thursday, August 24, 2000 - 01:58 pm Click here to edit this post

Truly, the best player won--and that is not often the case. Honest, consistent, and upfront--not only about his sexual preference, but in the way he approached the game. He masterminded the dynamics and provided the fish. Congratulations to Richard.

Enb

Thursday, August 24, 2000 - 04:43 pm Click here to edit this post

None of the above (except maybe the fish) He got lucky.