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Laura11103

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 08:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Caught this show by accident last night, hadn't even heard of it before.

Tyra Banks is searching for the next super model, someone she can mold and make a star.

They did a nationwide search and narrowed it down to like 20 girls, then narrowed from them to 8 girls. I felt she chose the less beautiful ones, probably wanting the ones she could really do over. Then they added 2 wildcard girls. They all are living in a penthouse in NYC together while they go through training, once a week a girl is voted out by Tyra and her crew.

One chick was super beautiful but really cocky and a snob, she got cut, hahahaha... I had to laugh, she was so over-confident.

They showed them getting weighed, then bikini waxed (ouch!), then they had to do a bikini shoot in the freezing freezing cold on a rooftop in NYC, and I know how freakin cold it was here last winter.... one of the wild card girls was voted off last night.

So I guess this show is on on Tuesdays @ 9pm. It's pretty good so far IMO.

Beachcomber88

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 11:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know. I also caught this show by accident. I'm getting really tired of these reality contest/competition shows. What's next, America's Ugliest Citizen? But the main reason why this show will fail is that it's on UPN. With no big network push, I really doubt that it will cause the buzz of AI or Bachelor.

For what it's worth, I did not think the girl that got cut was beautiful at all. Wasn't she one of the wildcards? I think the Latina girl from California with the mole near her nose is incredibly sexy.

My favorite moment of the night - Tyra up on the rooftop with the girls and "switching" from her "serious" look to her "fiery" look. I've met Tyra Banks before. She seems like such a down-to-earth girl. But on this show she is much too serious for such a silly competition. Where is Paula Abdul when we need her?

Jan

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 12:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually I saw Tyra Banks on the View yesterday pushing this show (the first I ever heard of it). The show is her creation..she is the executive producer and power and creative force behind it. She said she wanted to show people that the world of being a model is not all glamour; it is a lot of hard work and she wanted to show that being a pretty girl is not all that it takes to make it.

Laura11103

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 01:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, these competition shows are getting tiring. Where's the originality?

Ryn

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 08:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ummmm - I liked it - lol

Considering its the one reality show on UPN.

Very much a "Real World" feel for a lot of it.

Similar to "Surf(er?) Girls".

Its nothing at all like "Are you hot" or "All American Girl"

Jan

Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 09:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
don't forget to watch it tonight at 9PM on UPN

Scorpiomoon

Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 07:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Did anyone catch both episodes tonight?

Maybe it's because I am going through new episode withdrawal, but man, this show is a RIOT!

From watching bikini waxing to the girls unwillingly gather together to pray to freakin' Janice Dickenson (who I CAN'T STAND!)...I thought this show was hysterical!

I have to admit, I kept watching because of Elyse. While the rest of the girls don't have a clue, this girl is intelligent, a total smart-ass and I hope she kicks butt.

Avrey258

Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 08:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Elyse is the short haired girl right? The judges called her "pale" and very thin? Missed the first episode but saw the second one. If that is her, I really like her. Is she a med student? I heard her say something about school.

Anyways, I do not know any of the names so please bear with me. The girl with the medium length brown hair. She was the one in the cab who sat in the middle and kept yapping about the favorite saying from a movie. She really bugs me. I swear I think she is medicated. Anyone else know who I am talking about.

Did they repeat the first episode tonight and then show an new episode the second hour? Just wanted to know how much I have missed.

The Jesus girl is really bugging out too. Tyra is annoying to me, but not half as bad as that seventies model Janice. My husband was passing by the T.V. and he said, "who does that woman think she is"? An over the hill model with major attitude!

Scorpiomoon

Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 08:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Avrey258: This is the first time I've paid attention to the show. I am almost sure what they showed tonight was the 2nd and 3rd episode--both new. In tonight's first episode one of the girls was cut.

I know what you mean about (whatever her name is) who was in the car quoting from Jay and Silent Bob. To me, she seemed like someone who smokes pot on a regular basis.

Yep. Elyse is an academic on the verge of going to med school.

You're husband was so right about Janice. Don't even get me started about her...

Monkeyboy

Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 10:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, Elyse is awesome. She reminds me of my best friend.

Beachcomber88

Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 11:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I told myself that I would not be watching this show. Yet I was drawn to it simply because there was nothing else really on. Now I am ashamedly hooked!

Scorpio, I missed the first hour, but I am almost positive that it was a rerun of last week's episode. If the first hour ended with Plain-Jane Tessa (one of the wildcards) getting cut and then the big girl Robin bawling, then it was most definitely a repeat.

On to the second hour... after watching them do the "Stuff" photo shoot, I thought... no wonder why they look familiar! I went to my recycle bin and pulled out my May issue of Stuff and yep, there they all are!

I am quite shocked that Katie, the Playboy model, was cut tonight. Certainly she has more potential than some of the others remaining.

Other random thoughts...

I love Giselle. Very sexy and I hope she wins.

I am surprised that everyone loves the waif Elyse. I do not, for the very reason that she was going off on everyone while in the confessional room. What the @#$% was that? Her attitude was extremely poor, and if she didn't want to be there, she should have left. I love it when people in reality shows seem not to realize that all of America (and eventually the people you're talking about) hears what you have to say. I thought her lambasting of all the other girls was extremely childish and very revealing of her personality. If this is one of America's future physicians, then I pity her future patients. She definitely did not show that she can be caring, nurturing, and understanding. BTW, how is it that a 20 year old is entering medical school? Did she enter college at 16 and already graduate?

Ebony drives me crazy. She is playing the role of Angry <self edited> Woman perfectly. Her face and body are cold, and her anger makes her even icier. I thought the moment when she was trying to scream over everyone was ludicrous. In "Stuff", she tells about how her hair fell out after she curled it when she was 13, and then she just left it like that. In her picture, the editors of "Stuff" airbrushed a wig on to her bald noggin. Absolutely hilarious! I bet that this is causing her to seeth and emote even more. Can't wait to see this angry woman leave.

Scorpiomoon

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 07:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Beachcomber88: Yep. It turns out you're right. The first episode was a repeat.

I agree with much of what you said. I can empathize with Elyse and understand why she needed to vent, but they don't seem to realize their words have consequences. I was a little surprised she even took a shot at "J" the catwalk guy. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

The thing I'm getting tired of about these reality shows is people like Elyse who don't seem to want to be there. You're left asking, then why did you try out for this in the first place? I like Elyse, but there's some denial going on there.

The other thing I thought of: for a woman who feels so strong about her beliefs, why didn't Elyse walk away from the prayer rather than stand there participating and crying?

It's funny how we ALL have a different definition of what "beauty" is.

I can't believe I'm getting so analytical about this show. :)

Realfan

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 09:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Scorpiomoon, me, too. I never, ever thought I'd get caught up in this show, but Elyse is a riot! I know she's a pill, why is she there, etc., but more power to her. I love that she's not into endless discussions about hair and makeup, that she's showing models can actually be intelligent people.

I didn't watch the first hour, only the second. So I don't have all the background. But I will watch again because of Elyse.

I don't think it's fair to judge her future performance as a doctor because of comments in the confessional. First, these girls aren't her patients. Also, a lot of doctors have crappy bedside manners, or she could be a researcher instead of a pratician. Besides, by the time she actually graduates from med school, she'll have matured somewhat. But until then, I love that she takes the gloves off in the confessional and tells how she's really feeling. It's probably necessary therapy for her, or she would go INSANE in that house. I know I would, hearing talk about clothes and makeup all day.

I thought it was extremely rude of that girl to call her over to read her a Bible verse. But Elyse was polite enough not to cause a scene either then or later, by backing out of the prayer circle--and a prayer that had more than one of the girls rolling her eyes.

I think she clearly feels like an outsider, so it'll be interesting to see how far she goes and how she copes. If not for her, this show would be DULL.

I don't agree with the sentiment that she shouldn't be there if she has med school aspirations. Maybe modeling will PAY HER WAY through med school? Maybe she won't be accepted to med school? Maybe she'll start med school and realize it's not the career for her? Why close off an avenue of opportunity when one presents itself, just because other girls would want to be in her shoes? This isn't a charity situation--it's about finding success for yourself. If the other girls are better, they'll come out on top. If not, then maybe THEY shouldn't be there.

I also like Ebony in that she is driven and working hard, practicing on her own. That's admirable. But she is bald.

Gina8642

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 12:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I liked the show and Elyse is my favorite. I completely relate to her. Her rant was a rant and nothing else. Very honest of her.

For most of my life I've been surrounded with well educated people. Most of the jobs I've had, I've had co-workers with more educationn than me. So I'm used to that sort of world. Three years ago I took a different job. OH MY GOD!!! It was filled with folks, mostly women, who thought being smart was something bad. They looked down on people who valued eduacation and a college degree as pretentious. They thought is was so unfair that our company had a policy of promoting people with education and experience - not just experience. Basic math skills completely escaped them and they thought is was bizzare that I'd taught myself how to use Excel, they were sure I had taken several classes in it. They thought I was extremely intelligent (I'm not - or at least I never thought so before) because I could alphabetize and put things in numberical order very fast. Hello??? It drove me insane!!! I would come home and rant all the time. I've recently quit (that's why I'm posting all the time now.) It paid very well, but I just couldn't stand the environment anymore.

I grew up in a world where we discussed world events and all things computers at the dinner table. These women wanted to only talk about manicures. They were all good people who cared about their families, and doing the right thing, but it still drove me insane. I completely empathize with Elyse. I also think her rant says zero about what kind of doctor she could be.

Jan

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 12:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here is a site that seems to be recapping episodes, so you can catch up if you miss any:

Top Model Episode Recaps

and here is the official site:

Official Top Model Site

Mssilhouette

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 02:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well I caught last nights episode. They're all nice looking but WOW (open mouth shock) on the attitude.

Ebony- While she had a point about it being a competition and that it isn't high school or sorority. Her point was missed while she tried to talk over and out shout the Southern Bible Thumper (apologies to those who keep religion close to their hearts, I have no malice towards you) so her points while valid were completely lost because she let her anger overtake the situation. I did like how she attempted to perfect her walk she has determination and drive. I can't fault her for that. Some of the other girls seems to think its a party time. Ebony is way more serious than they will be.
SBT (Southern Bible Thumper) as I'll call her because I don't know her name. Is the "full figured" one, she is extremely nice to look at. And as a full figured woman it’s nice to have some representation (frankly she’s not really “full figured” she’s normal size but go figure) Her twang is very heavy and distracting but since modeling is not about talking it doesn’t matter.

She really lost points with me because her vindictiveness is clearly shown as she took barbs at Ebony during the impromptu prayer circle. I really dislike people who claim to be very religious and wear it as if they’ve gotten a God given holy award of merit then use that badge to be extremely nasty and childish. Which is exactly what SBT did. Between the two I really found SBT's actions far more reprehensible then Ebony's. At least Ebony didn't try and hid or sing loudly to avoid hearing the other side.

The award for Angry Woman goes to CalvinKline Androgynous Waif. CKAW. The “smart one” who just couldn’t stand the vapid conversations going on throughout the house. Excuse me what what the !@#$ did you think a modeling competition was going to be like? If she didn't like the subject of conversation then try and talk about something more substantial. I'm sure with all those women there are some who have opinions on heavier topics. And if they didn't want to talk about that well then adjust. I mean c'mon now going into a rant basically says...."i'm mad cause no one wants to talk about the important stuff I wanna" GURL PLEASE! Grow the @#$% up and stop trying appear to be the model of substance, because you're not and that rant proved it.

If you didn’t want to be there then leave, no one has a gun to your head to make you stay. Then suddenly after she has a good night sleep she’s all smiles and is taking this competition seriously? Ya right! Those who think the produces had a little chat with Ms Rant Waif USA, raise your hand. I understand venting but to do it in front of the camera in the “confessional booth” is just a passive aggressive way of telling someone how you think.

Anyhoo, this reality show seems to be about how much of an emotional wreak these wannabe models are. Right now I’m not really rooting for anyone because I have yet to see anyone really stand out physically.

BTW what was up with the judging panel and that model who was basically trying to be Simon. I will say this though, never knew how much work it took to walk a straight line and toss a jacket over your shoulder. It's not exactly rocket science but it does take pratice.

Of course since everyone else is doing your hair, makeup and clothing and tellin you were to stand and move I still don't think this is *THAT* difficult.

I'll watch the next epsidoe if there's nothing better on or I'm bored. LOL

Yuhuru

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 03:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm ashamed to say I liked the show. I don't like Elyse.

I'm not sure what to say about the catwalk diva. If you have to learn to walk the catwalk in heels from a guy, there's something wrong on the catwalk, But he was gooood... :)

I'm rooting for Kesse(tyra look alike, the one who cried). She seems sweet.

I can't stand Janice at all !!! She's been in the media too much this year spouting how she was the first ever super model, and discussing her sexual exploits and drug habits --- Way too much info for me!

Pamy

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 06:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, everyone scoot over, I am here too!! I didn't want to watch this!! I didn't want to like this show!! But damn!, it was soooo juicy!!! lol
I am loving the cat fights. I loved when they were doing the group prayer and the one girl looked at the camera and rolled her eyes.

Jan

Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 06:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree. I really like this show. And the waif or as Ms Silh calls her "CalvinKline Androgynous Waif... CKAW. "...she really turned me off. I just want to force her to EAT SOME FOOD! She is sooooo thin.

I like EBONY for her work ethic but she really seems angry..I also agree with what Ms Silh had to say about Robin, the bible thumper. What a turnoff she is turning out to be. And how rude to get CKAW toread the passage about how foolish an aethiest is and then say "I read it and thought of you". I HATE people who think that their way is the right way and everyone else's way is the wrong way (and I am not an aethiest..but, girl, she has the right to be one! It does not make her foolish.)

Beachcomber88

Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 09:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
MsSil, I love the names you've made. I think however that Ebony, or as I like to call her, Bald Angry Woman, hands down wins the Most In Need of Anger Management therapy award. Not sure what stick is up her butt, but that's one pissed off woman. The whole deal about it being a competition and screwing people over was ridiculous.

I agree that Robin should not impose her beliefs/views on others. She should not have attacked Elyse. And she was just as wrong as Ebony when she tried to sing over her. Very immature for a 26 year old.

Tyra may be showing us that it takes a lot of work to become a model, but she is also confirming our belief that most models are catty, volatile, and all in need of therapy.

Fluff

Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 10:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I love this show! I do not like Robin or Elyse. I like Ebony, and I like Kesse because she seems like a quiet, sweet girl.

Jan

Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 01:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Fluff...to me ebony, the waif and the bible thumper all clearly have problems..but for some reason I find Ebony likeable and not the other two. I have no idea why.

Meli456

Friday, May 30, 2003 - 10:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I haven't finished reading this tread yet, but I have to say I TOTALLY know where Elyse is coming from. I probably would have said the same things if I was stressed out enough. However, would I have done that on TV? No... well I am way too private to want to go on TV anyhow.

I hope Elyse wins. I would root for the "big" girl, but she is the kind of person that scares the hell outta agnostic ol' me.

Gina8642

Sunday, June 01, 2003 - 01:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Elyse Sewell Article

Sounds like she did it on a lark. I think she was definately cast for the attitude. She, Ebony, the 'bible thumper' are all anyone is talking about. lol

Scorpiomoon

Sunday, June 01, 2003 - 04:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for the link, Gina!

A snippet from the interview with Elyse's brother:

"She wants as few people as possible to know about it," Everest says.


"But I'm sure she relishes it in some way," he adds."

Maybe I'm being too critical, but this is the one thing I dislike about Elyse. Either hate everything modelling is about and make a mockery of it, or admit you're liking the experience. Pick one and stick with it.