Archive through June 10, 2003
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Archive through June 10, 2003
Whoami | Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 04:35 pm     <dating self here too> Yes, I remember the Osmonds and Jackson 5. But didn't they at least have people older than 13 in the groups? And at least Jacksons and Osmonds were families. Older siblings and parents could look out for the younger ones (though I sometimes wonder if the parents exploited their talents too). This proposed pop group won't have anyone older than 13 in it. For some reason, that just bothers me. They won't know each other, and will start off this thing as competetors. Do they really think the competition will stop once a child wins a spot in the group? Next will come the lobbying for solos, physical placement within the choreography, and so on (more likely by the parents). I frequent a figure skating board, where many members belong to skating clubs. They're always talking about how parents harrass the coach to highlight their little darling, even to the point of timing how many minutes one child's solo is compared to their own child's. I can very much see that happening in this venue as well. Despite my misgivings, I'll probably still end up watching it. I guess I'm a glutton for punishment or something! Can't say I remember the Cowsills. What songs were they famous for? |
Ryn | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 08:31 am     Reminder that this show premires tonight. |
Puttergirl | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 02:33 pm     BE SURE TO WATCH!! I hope to start the POLL with the second episode, so be looking for the good ones right away! |
Jedisan | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 02:55 pm     bump - getting ready!!! |
Ginger1218 | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 03:54 pm     The Cowsills did a song called The Rain the Park and Other Things (some words) - And I knew, I knew I knew, that she could make me happy, happy, Flowers in her hair, flowers everywhere, I love the flower girl etc. LOL boy am I old. |
Kizz | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 03:58 pm     The Cowsills also recorded a version of "Hair" I believe, back around '69 or '70. |
Fanny | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 04:13 pm     I think they also did a version of Silver Threads & Golden Needles. (LOL Ginger I'm so old I'm amazed I can actually *remember* the Cowsills.) |
Puttergirl | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 04:24 pm     When I was a kid, I had their records! I loved them. I haven't thought about them in years. Ya'll got me feeling nostalgic, but I couldn't remember what they looked like, so I went and found a picture of them: |
Puttergirl | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 04:30 pm     I also found the lyrics for that song: THE RAIN THE PARK AND OTHER THINGS I saw her sitting in the rain, raindrops falling on her. She didn't seem to care. She sat there and smiled at me. And I knew (I knew, I knew, I knew, I knew) she could make me happy (happy, happy). Flowers in her hair, flowers everywhere. I love the flower girl, oh, I don't know just why. She simply caught my eye. I love the flower girl, she seemed so sweet and kind. She crept into my mind. Suddenly the sun broke through (see the sun). I turned around she was gone (where did she go). And all I had left was one little flower from her hair. But I knew (I knew, I knew, I knew, I knew) she had made me happy (happy, happy). Flowers in her hair, flowers everywhere.
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Puttergirl | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 05:06 pm     Ok, first impression- THEY HAVE TOTALLY STOLEN THE FAME THEME SONG!!! They've edited it alittle but its the fame music! |
Froggiegirl621 | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 05:45 pm     These parents are hilarious! |
Puttergirl | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 05:53 pm     Its sweet to see how proudly they watch their kids on the stage. Even if you don't perform that well, to your parents you sound perfect! The POLL will begin the week after next. Next week is still auditions. |
Whoami | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 08:23 pm     The stage mom from hell was not as bad as they were trying to make her off to be. I had more issue with that one mom in the car, who didn't get her kid there before the cutoff number. So she demands they sing to the cameras right then and there while still in the car. The kid is blindsided and balks, so she say's "ok then, you've missed your chance." So nice of her to make it the kid's fault that they weren't even able to try out. Its looking to me like the kids with the ultra pushy parents who are shoving their unwilling kids into this thing are not making the cut. I'm glad for that, though I worry for the poor kid when they get home. I hate that some of these kids will go home feeling like they've failed their mom/dad. The parents in the audience mouthing the every word the kid is singing is funny. I saw that on America's Most Talented Kid too. |
Eliz87 | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 08:29 pm     I don't care for these types of shows. I just don't like to see children competing for anything. If adults want to go on "reality" shows and be exploited, well, that's their option (and I love it, frankly). But I just don't like to see children involved in it. There's nothing cute, charming or fun about it, IMHO. This is definitely one I won't be watching. |
Whoami | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 08:40 pm     I definetly see your point Eliz. There's definetly a fine line to draw in this, as well as in pageants and sports. Many mothers swear their kid just lives for kid pageants and stuff. I'm sure there are kids who love to ham it up. But when is it Mom/Dad's dream, and when is it the kid's? I just hope they are being sensitive to the kids here. If I see that they aren't, I'll stop watching. My mom absolutly hates gymnastics, cause the kids start out so young. She's certain no kid that age says "Mom, I want to be an elite gymnast." My take on that is, maybe someone pushes the kid into it to start, but there's no way they are going to reach that level if they don't want it themselves. But elite sports are different than parading your kid around and making them dress funny. |
Demeter | Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 06:05 am     I enjoyed the show and it did seem as though they did not advance the kids whose parents were too involved in the process. The child I felt most saddened by was the six year old girl dressed with the low rise jeans (I think that's what they call them these days, in my younger years we called them hip-huggers) and blue top with the feathers, and hair to the ceiling. To me, she had to have been a pageant girl. She was actually pretty good and could certainly shake her booty, but how sad for a young child to be sexualized like that. I loved the little 9 year old boy that sang Over the Rainbow. Talk about making it your own! He did a great job except for those awful high notes. He had great stage presence. He just needs the voice coach to let him know those high notes are out. The interviews sans parents were fun. I liked the little boy that thought wanting to be s pop-star was "stupid" that was why he wanted to go to Sea World to be a dolphin trainer. The "this is my new best friend" scenes were cute as well. As with "The Most Talented Kid" show, the kids seeme to just have fun with one another and it is the parents that are much more anxious about it all. |
Rslover | Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 07:29 am     Demeter, ITA with you. Reminded me of what the Ramseys did to Jon Benet. |
Hobbs | Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 07:51 am     I flipped in and out of the show during Dod Eat Dog commercials. The kids were pretty good. I think they spared us the really bad stage parents so that we wouldn't feel bad for the kids. Not all those parents had to be the loving supportive types. I'm sure many were "pushers". The producers probably didn't show us the bad side because they didn't want to give the impression that the show was exploiting the kids too. But what happens when the show goes live and we are kicking the kids off? These kids are going to be so excited as they get further through the show. The disapointment of getting the boot is going to be shattering to these kids. The tears will be awful. Won't we feel like the kids have been exploited then? Won't we feel like we exploited the kids. It's going to be tough. I hope the producers are ready for it. For me, it's a Dog Eat Dog Tuesday. |
Hobbs | Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 08:15 am     OH! You've gotta love the cigarette smoking grandmother on the cart wanting to see the tapes so that she could know what the kid did wrong. And the kid next to her constantly singing. A comedy writer couldn't have dreamed up a better script. It almost seemed like a cartoon! Like the WB frog! |
Froggiegirl621 | Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 08:32 am     Hobbs, that smoking grandma had me and my BF in stiches! She wanted to know if her grand-daughter was fixable! Fixable?!? What a riot! |
Weenerlobo | Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 11:50 am     Wheelchair Smokin G-ma looked like a Christopher Guest creation. |
Realmom | Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 02:20 pm     Weenerlobo, that's just what my 15 yo daughter said-- "Smoking Grandma looks like something from Waiting for Guffman or Drop Dead Gorgeous." I enjoyed the show, but I hate seeing so many kids hurting their voices by singing incorrectly. The little girl who had the irate mom and sang the song from Pocahontas was singing so incorrectly--lower jaw jutted forward and extreme use of the nasal resonator. Wonder if her mom is her voice teacher. What is so sad is that the kid had good pitch and range--a good voice teacher could turn her into a good singer. Too many of these kids push and try to imitate adult popstars. They can really do damage to their young developing voices. I loved the interviews in the big chair and the very mature little boy with the glasses who introduced his mom as his wife and, when rejected said, "What are you going to do?" Great attitude that will take him far. I think to do this show correctly, the parents should have been removed from the situation once the child was registered to audition. My kids have been on big musical auditions and they always go in alone and have from the time they were 6. I think the producers may have thought it would give some good footage to include parents in the process, knowing the parents were going to care more about what happens than the kids. My favorite singers last night were the little blond six year old who talked about her doggie, Dimples. What a pure beautiful voice. She didn't make the cut--maybe she couldn't dance?? How do 6 yo's dance anyway? That little girl is going to have a beautiful voice when she grows up. I think her last name was Longbrake. I also liked the twin girls' voices--also very pure and natural. I'm wondering if they will be competing together or separately. Anyone else think that Canyon Grove, the boy from the L.A. auditions, looked like a young Leif Garrett? |
Llkoolaid | Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 04:54 pm     Amen Realmom, I agree about the little girl with the crazy mom, mom was definately her voice coach, a real one would correct those problems not encourage them. I too love a pure voice, especially in a child. A Child should be a child, there is nothing enjoyable to me about watching a child acting like and adult. I like the idea of keeping the parents out of it. I don't have a problem with kids competing if it is their idea. My oldest daughter thrived on competition. My middle didn't care but my youngest has taken voice and piano for 3 years and has a beautiful little voice but she does not want to enter festivals. She is only 8 and she says she just wants to be part of the audience, so we go to watch. When and if she wants to compete I will take her but it has to be her idea. I want her to love music not trophys. |
Babyjaxmom | Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 07:43 pm     Watched a few minutes of this show last night, but I had to change the channel. I couldn't stand to see the little ones cry when they didn't make it. I agree that how the child takes the "rejection" largely depends on the parents' attitudes, but I felt so sorry for those kids who were just so crushed! Little children should not be exploited in this manner. It's just wrong! |
Puttergirl | Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 10:58 am     bump Remember to watch tonight if you're interested in the POLL. They should show the final however many tonight and the POLL can begin next week. |
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