Archive through September 02, 2003
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Archive through September 02, 2003
Avrey258 | Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 07:33 am     Kellee, I was thinking the same thing too. Did any of these people not watch the show or read any of the stuff written about them on the internet? Especially Zack! I thought for sure that at least one of them would be ashamed of Amy and Zack's behavior, but I guess not. They all (Amanda excluded) stand around and blame everything on Charla, Dave, Tara and Scott. Another thing. What is up with Desiree? Why are her eyes opened all of a sudden? I think she and Holly are just scared of going against "the group". I taped last nights show and didn't watch it until this morning and I was disgusted by their behavior. It must come down to the fact that Andon, Beau, Zach and Kristin are furious because they all got bested by the people they called losers. They think they are the cool and deserving people and they can't stand the fact that Charla, Dave, Keith and Tara weren't just sitting around their room wallowing in self-pity. After viewing previous episodes of the show I had hoped these people would see the light, but I guess that I was expecting to much from them. |
Surealityjunkie | Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 07:54 am     I am going to try this again... I had a really nice flow going and then my AOL shut down and logged me off!!! I was feeling about how I did last night after PH went off... Anyway, I was saying that maybe FOX knew what they were doing when they aired this episode. SOOO many people are upset by the originals behavior that maybe/hopefully this is a pivotal turn in the shift of power. Nothing would be more satisfying to me than to see Dave/Keith/Charla/Tara as the last four and "the others" would HAVE to choose a winner from them. NO IF'S, AND'S, or BUT'S about it! As cruel as they were last night and probably will be tomorrow, that is the only ending I will accept. After Host Amanda's revelation tomorrow that the old people will be the jury, and what the new twists will be, maybe they will see that they can be a force to be reckoned with... One can dream right? Well, I hate that it took all the vileness to bring people back to talking again but I am thinking somewhere out there some big wig wanted us to stop being complacent and get shook up again... and shook up we are!!! I don't know how much to put into this, but someone on the official PH message board (wanted to see what that crew was saying -- most are like us...) said taping must be over because they saw Keith at an Ohio State football game over the weekend (said he lives in Cleveland) I think the saddest part about this show is the fact that if I ran into any of the Orignials on the street, with the exception of Charla & Amanda (to an extent), I couldn't walk up to them and say, "Oh, I love the character you played on PH. You were so good as the evil, vindictive person..." because as far as I can tell, that IS who they are. If in fact, FOX told them to come back and act over the top and power hungry, then I feel sorry for them (the guests) because it sheds such an awful light on them as "unscripted individuals"... Just my   |
Reader234 | Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 08:04 am     YES!! I thought it was just me!! I turned it off, I had thought the kicked off people were going to vote for the winners... and so that was it for me, no more watching - talk about a fix being in from the beginning, its no wonder they dont tell the rules flat out, who would come in? Holly and Desiree, arent they a little like some BB hg, trying to fly under the radar to win? (or am I giving them too much credit?) If I had to pick who played the best, I too would vote for Keith, not only did he change the game, BUT, last night, he was holding Dave together, I think he comes across as being genuine, and that's why Amy and company have to get rid of him, he's not a threat, as much as a conscience!! Here's my wish... I wish the producers would show those clips of the 'originals' lying - they show the viewers why hide it from them? And I agree, this has to be scripted, too much is kept secret!! I can only imagine what is edited out... Where was Tom, what is his 'gig'? Tony will be a total AMY lover, backing up everything Amy does, and trashing, trying to break up that friendly alliance. I hope someone explains to Charla the difference between backstabbing and playing the games, strategic scheming!! Ah well, will never happen, this is the Fox network, Jerry Springer and all... |
Zami | Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 08:22 am     hey all. thanks for the welcome, sureality and everyone else! it feels good to be here. i've been reading the boards for 2 years now, and this year i've been reading sureality's recaps, after i watch every show. i am so glad others are here talking about this, cuz my partner says she has heard enough! i was yelling at the TV last night - more so than usual. i was out of my mind with Zack's behaviour - obviously i had forgotten how he had been throughout the show. so what is up? next week Beau says he can't be friends with these folks, but in the meantime he will act like a crazed fool? what about zack making out with kavita? i'm scared that dave will lose it and blow up the whole alliance. oh please let the visitors get their just desserts! |
Jan | Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 08:35 am     Welcome to all the new posters I keep hanging on to the preview for next week. I didn't tape it so I don't know the exact words (maybe those who did tape it can check) but I was left with the impression that our fav 4 find out that they still have the power and make a comeback against the oldies. Anyone want to check the tape? Believing that will happen is all that will keep me viewing. |
Realfan | Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 09:04 am     Wow, I'm so glad to see I'm not alone. Not that I thought I would be. This ep really touched a nerve. It was FAR worse than I expected. I wasn't keen on the new people returning at ALL. I think it's totally unfair. But the way they behaved!?!? It was horrid!! I started to fantasize about what would happen to put the Charbies back in power--and what the preview meant. (I was ready not to watch again, until that strand of hope offered in the preview.) First, "Zack crosses the line." Wouldn't it be something if, after he says that crap about 50 of his friends, a pair of security guards appear behind him to escort him out for threatening another guest?? I would SCREAM in delight. As for the game itself . . . Aren't there equal numbers of current guests and visitors? What if Amanda has all of them pair up, then tells people to look at their partner. If their partner is weariing a black necklace, it is time for that couple to "check out of Paradise Hotel." I bet all that would be left standing are the fab four, and possibly Scott and Holly and Tom and Desiree (CAN'T STAND HER.) And Amy--who had paired with Zack, would be history! Hah! |
Realfan | Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 09:05 am     My other thought is that the VIEWERS get to vote for the final winners. Also, if this is in any way scripted or the rules changed to tell a story, we have just been through the "dark moment" before the heroes come back stronger and defeat the Evil Ones. Charla is the heroine of this piece, and Dave, Tara, and Keith her loyal knights. If it doesn't play out with a victory for them, I won't be watching next year. |
Theowl | Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 09:25 am     OK, I have a thought here. How about the fact that maybe it's a scripted show. Like a soap opera. I just can't believe that all the people brought back are THAT mean. And they're all getting down on Charla, who never did anything worse than the originals. They all just seem to be too mean to be real. They are all just auditioning for real TV shows, or real soap operas. What do you think??  |
Jan | Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 09:37 am     anyone who missed the show, here is a recap location: Paradise Hotel Sep 1 recap |
Cinnamongirl | Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 10:06 am     On Wednesday I'd love to see them all sitting together and watching a video montage (sp?) of past shows, showing all the lying and backstabbing of the "originals". Since they've done everything they've accused Charla & Company of doing and much much more, I would love for them all to be brought down a notch or two (or 10) That was the most upsetting reality show I've ever seen and I can't believe people are THAT mean. They must have paid them big bucks to act that bad......it was pathetic |
Maryk | Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 10:17 am     Wow - I'm glad I'm not alone. The 'originals' who came in were so mean. What TV show are they watching??? What has Charla done that was so mean??? Did the preview say that the ousted people are going to vote for the winners? If so, thats so UNFAIR! Why not just hand the money to Amy. (blech) I'm still hoping that the Fab 4 get the last laugh and make it all the way to the end. GO Charla! GO Keith! GO Dave! GO Tara!
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Theowl | Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 10:25 am     So you don't think it was scripted?  |
Weenerlobo | Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 10:38 am     Wow - I dunno that I'm bummed that I missed last nite's show, or not! If I had seen it, I probably would have been stomping around the house, chain smoking. (Can't sit still and I crave cigs when I'm very angry!) You all have made such good points in your posts too! I remember seeing Andon in the previews last week, and I was wondering why he got all over Dave, being as he was gone so long ago! Well, logic cannot be put into a bottle and therefore, the "originals" can't order up a Common Sense Cocktail (umbrella and all) and guzzle it down, just to get a clue so there ya go. But now I really can't wait until tomorrow! |
Realfan | Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 10:41 am     I don't honestly think it was scripted, but I'm not sure these people weren't coached, like told by the producers to be as confrontational as possible. And the ones willing to be the most confrontational were brought in early on, determining the order. But it doesn't explain why Andon would side with the Originals, when the originals kicked him off! Charla had nothing to do with it. And Beau is ridiculously stupid if he doesn't get how the originals were plotting against him. He is one dim bulb. I hate Amy. I hate her with the burning rage of 1,000 suns. That crap she was spouting to Dave about how Charla was crying out of guilt, and how Charla should come tell her to her face if she doesn't like her--what a crock. Courteous people don't DO that. I'm glad Dave told her Charla wasn't feeling guilty. Guilty for WHAT, exactly?? They act like Charla has ultimate power over all of them, when for most of the show, she has had NO power. Alex and Kristen gave Dave the money to get rid of Beau, for instance. It's insanity. |
Reader234 | Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 10:43 am     I think it is "directed", maybe the producers make suggestions to some of the guests, and I'm sure alcohol plays a big part too!! Somehow they are given a lot of freedom, and give them credit, they dont show the guests looking at (in) the cameras...'cept for that Tom person who disappeared... And we have seen Charla talk to many of the girls trying to persuade them into their alliance, that can certainly be misconstrued with the 'originals' - but they are trying to whittle Dave's defenses down, knowing he is so insecure, whereas they leave Keith alone - again, is it because they are being 'coached'? I dont think it will turn out like the last Osbourne show tho (and I broke the Osbourne posting rule - ) I wanna know more behind the scenes, someone go find Keith at Ohio State and get us the rest of the story!! |
Realfan | Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 11:15 am     Ooo. I just found an article that says only four real guests remain after Wednesday, so maybe my weird idea of how they eliminate the others isn't too far off. Not keen on the jury stuff, but if they only have FOUR to vote on (Charla, Tara, Keith, and Dave), there are no losers! http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds11634.html <<Jury vote in final 'Paradise Hotel' 17:59 BST, Saturday 30th August 2003 -- by Neil Wilkes All summer long FOX has been trailing the ending to it's surprise hit reality series Paradise Hotel, but finally with the end in sight more details are beginning to emerge. On last Monday's show, the remaining guests were told there would be no more newcomers to the hotel, but the voteoffs would remain. In yet another twist, evicted guest Zack returned to the fold at the end of Wednesday's episode, with all of the other evicted hotel guests set to follow. It is expected that their stay will be short-term only, but their collective power will be important as they will determine the ultimate winner. By the time of the two-hour finale on Wednesday, October 1, there will be just four guest remaining. The jury of former of residents will then vote on the winner, Big Brother style. FOX is still keeping tight-lipped on the grand prize.>> |
Surealityjunkie | Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 11:19 am     Thanks for the link, Jan. That is the site I was going to post but they hadn't added anything when I last checked. Guess that's what I get for leaving the house -- what was I thinking?  |
Reader234 | Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 11:32 am     So will they vote ala Survivor, and keep the vote secret, and do it 'live' or has it already happened, and they already know who "won"?? This is just too weird, I really think they made it up as they went along!! I still hope the ending shows all the hg what was being said by others behind closed doors... but I still see alliances that wont break, meaning if Amy is still standing, she should have the votes, based on Mondays show, again, very weird indeed... (oh and real fan, now I see why I got the locking post earlier, lol - - thanks for the link!!) |
Kitt | Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 11:46 am     I had bad dreams last night because of this show, it took me hours to get to sleep! It's like the "un-cool" kids finally get the upper hand over the "cool" kids, then the "cool" kids are allowed to come back and beat them up! This was just a horrible horrible show. As if the originals didn't embarass themselves enough the first time round they come back and act like this? What nasty people. They need to stop this torture before it turns into physical violence. |
Bogiesgal | Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 12:35 pm     I just have to say that I agree with everything that has been said here regarding the ambush that happened on last night's show. However I am hoping that when Toni saw all the last shows a lightbulb goes off in her head and she realizes what *itches they have ALL been to the new people. Then I am counting on her to go off on the originals and really let them have it. Why else would they bring her on last when she was the biggest *itch during the show? (OK, so it would be behaving just like the orinals but what is good for the "goose" is good for the "gander".) Please let me be right -PLEASE!!!! |
Rslover | Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 02:08 pm     Was not happy to see this crew again! That Desiree is the two face and I wish Amanda tells the group. Also, Holly is sure laying low. Keith is just playing the game, trying to act mature. |
Surealityjunkie | Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 02:43 pm     http://www.paradiseonfox.com/recaps/ Here is a recap of Monday's show from the offical Paradise Hotel website. Was it me or was this the fastest episode of PH since Zack was sent home (the first time! )... I watched the show glued to the tube and I swear the first time I looked at the clock it was 8:45PM! Any other night it would be 8:17PM... I am expecting Wednesday's show to go just as fast! Gotta love those editors -- they can pack a show with all they've got! |
Surealityjunkie | Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 02:49 pm     From the official website recap: Amanda arrives at the hotel and goes first to Charla’s room. Charla does a little happy dance and hugs her. She informs Amanda that Beau was voted out, and that the returning Zack is already causing drama. After watching the show at home, Amanda knows that Amy, Kristin and Toni had been plotting to get Charla out. Stupid Question Time: If Amanda watched the show at home, why did she gasp and act shocked when Charla told her Beau was gone. Shouldn't she have know that already?!?!?!?! That just doesn't sit right.... Edited to add: I heard her ask Charla last night and was thinking the same thing... she should know that already. |
Hoosiergirl | Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 03:22 pm     Anyone else think that Zack is a total punk ass? I wanted Keith to just knock the crap out of him last night. And his comment about meeting Keith in AZ with 50 of his friends? Yeah Zack, you're so tough; why the 50 friends? And Dave, dude, you shouldn't have told Amy that Charla was crying, that was wrong. You just gave Amy and her little gang a victory. |
Ladybug007 | Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 05:24 pm     Im telling you...the tables will turn....AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT SEES THIS??? Do you actually think the creators of the show would not let those losers get what they deserve. Why do you think we didnt see Toni yet...um because she has some sh#$#$it to say!!! Just wait.. |
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