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Brenda1966 | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 09:43 am     I beg to differ, Alley. Not voting for Hank because I don't think he's the best pick for Lisa has nothing to do with jealousy! I was thrilled when Chad picked Erin over the money. I was thrilled when Joe Millionaire chose Zora. I think Evan was the best match (of the remaining 4) for Lisa. I'd even pick Dominic over Hank. But Lisa already rejected them on TV last night-- completely ignoring the process which is supposed to be "America picks the best man for Lisa". We all know women who pick bad partners. Just because Lisa thinks Hank is the best for her doesn't mean he is. I felt cheated by this game when I was told who I was supposed to vote for. |
Realfan | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 09:45 am     Sorry, Enbwife, but Lisa is there to WIN A MILLION DOLLARS and get famous, not to find "twu lurrve." Would anyone who really wanted only love have America choose their spouse?? I am so on board with not giving in to Lisa's demands. No one is stopping her from running off with Hank if she so chooses. But it's up to America to present to her the guy that comes with the million dollar "dowry." It was her choice to take this risk if she wants the cash. It'd be funny if Robert wins and doesn't propose. Apparently, it's up to the guy to decide whether he will. But I'd rather he DO, so she has to turn him down and lose out on the money. <<Wow- you guys are cruel! Why vote for someone you know she doesn't want? Why not just not vote? Why are those of you on planet "Get Real" bothering to try to fix the outcome of this dumb show? Why not just get on with your real lives?>> Because we aren't taking this silly show SERIOUSLY. It's on for our entertainment. That's its sole purpose. So, we're entertaining ourselves. By the way, I AM getting on with my real life, thank you very much. And this silly weekly show and message board is part of it. (And why doesn't Lisa get on with her "real life," I ask you? It sure ain't a reality show!) Lisa was so upset when Paul left, wasn't she? I haven't gotten this chick at all. She can't marry ALL of them, but early on she pretended she was into almost every one (except Robert, which is why he's a fan fave!). Maybe she wants a male harem... I didn't feel cheated by the other reality dating shows too much. At least the Bachelor is more honest in that there's no CASH PRIZE. People will stay together or date because they're genuinely interested, and because there are real feelings--plus dreams of "fame and fortune" with careers in broadcasting! Hah! Hank has really started to creep me out these last few weeks. Comparing tossing a football around in the yard to his infuriated slamming of the ball into a door inside the house just doesn't jive. But if Hank wins, Lisa gets him, warts and all. Who knows? She may never see his flaws or feel they're not that important. Love is like that. We've all known people we thought were sensible--until we met their spouses, whom they loved. Still, I do NOT think the other guys are all just being jealous, just like I thought Alex on the Bachelor was a total idiot for ignoring what the women were saying about the girl who was second runner-up to Jen (her name slips my mind.) There's something there--a short fuse, a lack of respect for others, an arrogance. But, Lisa hon, this ain't the Bachelorette. You aren't handing out roses, and you don't get to decide. |
Realfan | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 09:57 am     I also wanted to add one more thought, addressing anyone who thinks we're being cruel or enjoying the misery of others. I DO believe in love, and marriage, and romance. I am a romance novelist by trade, married 20 years. This show is making a mockery of all three. Especially marriage--marrying anybody just for money, and to stay with it for only a year?? UGH. How shallow can you get? Even people who get drunk in Vegas and married overnight aren't so calculating. I feel no qualms not supporting Lisa's "choice," since she essentially abdicated her freedoms for MONEY. Just like in arranged marriages of the past (or present in many countries), the bride has little to no say. She has to work with what she gets. But unlike Lisa, those women always had a dowry attached, not a conditional one like she has. I'm interested to see if a modern woman is really ready to sell herself into a loveless marriage for the cash. |
Kellirippa | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 10:12 am     I really think that there is a method to this madness, the show is so obviously editing in Hank's bad house-moments... They don't want us to vote for Hank.. Simon Cowell thinks very highly of Lisa, and he doesn't appear to be someone who suffers fools. I really think that something unexpected is coming next week, some true love conquers all, fairy tale, didn't know this was coming did ya moment. Well, at least I hope so, otherwise, this show was a real dud... |
Lovedana | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 10:25 am     LOL! If such fairy tale comes, I suspect it would be Robert. If not Robert, then Evan. Again, I read I think in this thread that Simon was interviewed and he said he wanted Robert to win. LMAO! :D I wouldn't honestly be surprised if Lisa was trying to play reverse psychology, since the American public had previously voted out people she claimed and seemed she really cared for. I also read here in an old post that Lisa was purusing modeling but had been rejected by agencies? The theory is that she came on the show to get exposure, hence move the agencies to accept her. I wouldn't be surprised either because I kept thinking to myself, there's no way Lisa wouldn't have tried out for modeling at some point. |
Bonnyswan | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 10:32 am     I really dont care one way or the other at this point, but seriously, if I hear one more thing about the "football moment" Im gonna gag. First of all...its edited to a snipit at best..we see 3 seconds of what was going on...we have no idea what kinda of whacked out game these guys are playing, I mean they dont even show it with sound, so we dont even know whats being said. Secondly, they are BOYS....Ive spent enough time around men to know they play really dumb aggressive games with each other...how do we know they werent playing some sort of flinching game?...If any of you have ever been around men (especially ones that have been cooped up with that many other men)..KNOW the testosterone must be on total overload in that joint!...JMHO...but I think winging a football at another grown man in perfect physical condition (who is LAUGHING if I remember correctly in the clip) doesnt make him shady, scary OR have a split personality. |
Alleyoops | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 10:34 am     I KNEW the jealousy thing would strike a chord ... it always does. But I stand by my statement that getting pleasure out of someones misery is a SAD statement of ones character. It is immature to have ill will agains Lisa because of your opinions based on editing. NONE of us "truly" know what is in her hearts ... and my comments are aimed at thoses who claim they do based on edited TV for entertainment purposes. I have worked at ABC and Warner Brothers. I know TV. My family has been in the industry for years and its the producers getting the money and making the calls NOT the pawns who chose to take a chance and may want a little fame. There is nothing wrong with wanting a little piece of fame and money. Why shouldn't someone with a regular job get a little piece of Jennifer Aniston's and others 1 million an episode. Paid Actors get a RIDICULOUS amount of money! yet we don't bash them for it ... we say ...but they're talented ... SO WHAT! That still doesn't mean they deserve all the glory, adoration and 1 million plus for a single weeks worth of work and pampering. Give me a break. Regardless of how you defend or justify it, there IS a mean streak in the hearts of those who get pleasure and enjoy seeing people NOT get what they want. For the record I loved Chad and Erin... and wish them the best. While I was glad Joe M picked Zora (she deserved the $) he should of picked Sarah because they were a much better match. I don't know Lisa or her friends at all and to think you know their hearts by what you see on "TV" is to not really understand how the "business" of television works. My rant is over ... and I know I am in the minority. But as a believer in the Jesus and the Mother of a three year old I am just saddened by all the venom spit out on a regular basis. I guess I am just an idealist .. and would prefer to believe in the best instead of attack my perceptions of the worst and state them as fact about someone I do not even truly know. Please don't tell me to leave this board ... These are just my opinions. |
Enbwife | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 10:35 am     I think it’s one thing not to support Lisa’s choice (Hank), but to vote for Robert is just not right… |
Enbwife | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 10:39 am     ...and I agree with you Alley... |
Alleyoops | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 10:41 am     Thanks :o) |
Bonnyswan | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 10:44 am     I do too Alley...and PLEASE dont even think about leaving the board... |
Luvmom | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 10:47 am     Alley and Enb, I'm also with you.I actually thought Hank and Lisa looked very happy together.Voting for the other men will hurt them more then Lisa.I wouldn't want to do that just for my own entertainment. |
Gigglesalot | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 10:54 am     I have the sinking feeling that for some reason the Cupid show I watch is an edited version of what you are seeing because I’m just not seeing what you guys are. |
Bonnyswan | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 10:56 am     lol Giggles |
Lori | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 10:58 am     Isn't Hank the one who indicated Lisa should continue working after having children (even though she has indicated she does not want to work when she has children). I thought he was the one. Anyway Lisa really cooled off towards Evan all of a sudden. Could be the fact he is only a "vollyeball coach?" LOL! There must be some really strange editing going on...it seems as though everything has turned around 360 degrees. |
Lovedana | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 11:00 am     Ummm ... Alleyoops, first off, you're creating a false dilemma. Not everyone who objects to Lisa's choice does so because they want to see her in misery. Many honestly don't think Hank is the right match. In fact, Lisa herself left it up to us to decide by accepting the terms of the show. Plain and simple. She can choose to leave at the moment if she has personal conviction that she has found the love of her life. If anything, people would be the least jealous that a beautiful lady chose an ugly guy of all the physically appealing guys there. Honestly, if I were to be jealous, Hank is who I would send to Lisa ... or to make it worse, I'll send Joe to Lisa. In fact, I really would like to have Evan, Ken or even Robert as my dates. It's just I hate to be on the spotlight on TV. I like my life private. So, if anything, I would be so glad that Lisa professed her utmost interest in Hank (the ugliest guy there). But I saw the show as a genuine show and wanted to choose who I felt was the best match for her. Evan is my choice really. She may disagree with it, but she has a choice to reject it. Perhaps you should express your outrage to the producers of Cupid for still making the lines available--in spite of the sudden confession from Lisa that she wants no one else but Hank. They could simply and abruptly end the show by calling off the phone calls and have Lisa profess her love amidst a priest/minister uniting the two--Hank and Lisa. Personally, at this point I couldn't give a rat*$$ who she ends up with. The process suddenly feels tainted with this pity/fairy tale vote cry. My honest choice wouldn't be Hank because I have my concerns, especially after he interjected saying his wife had to work. So what if she chooses to stay home and take care of the kids until they're grown enough? Apparently Hank was just trying to fit in or look good per Lisa's dad's comment. All I know is, my man won't decide for me what I want to do. He can suggest and try to persuade me, but I don't need a control freak or a jealous spouse. Lisa sees his tantrum as warranted and proof of his affection for her. I'm afraid she's ignored the other possibility that it hints an intensely jealous significant other who will not be able to live with the attention a beautiful woman gets, and at some point he will forget to compliment her. |
Alleyoops | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 11:03 am     I never turned around... I just never posted. We are watching the same show. It's just some watch and looks for the best in others instead of the worst. Some might call it looking through Rosie colored glasses. I call it looking with faith. I know, I know ... blah blah blah. That's all some hear me saying. This has been a fun debate in any case. |
Sweetbabygirl | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 11:05 am     (Hands Bonnyswan a bucket) Bonny, let's skip the 'football moment' for a second....if you've watched this show since the beginning as I'm sure you have, you've noticed that almost EVERY potential suitor has had a negative comment about Hank. Again, I don't think jealousy of him has anything to do with it, as THEY are the ones that have been living with him, and THEY are the ones that have seen other sides of him. What's unfortunate is that Cupid won't show more of the in-house adventures so that we can get a glimpse of what the guys have to deal with on a daily basis. I can understand being insecure of the other male contestants, but for Opie from Hell to not like them in general just rubs me the wrong way. He clearly has a problem with Evan who until last night was his toughest competition....remember his impatience with him during the toga ping-pong game? I'm telling you, there is a lot going on beneath that sh!t eating grin, trust me Lisa will find that out soon enough. Alley, I would never tell anyone to leave a board, that's not my style and everyone has the right to state their opinion....however, not all of the postings here have been mean spirited towards Lisa; despite the premise of this show, I happen to like her and am amazed that she has any trouble finding a mate, what with her looks and intelligence. If future postings are going to offend you this much then perhaps you shouldn't read them because just like you, we will all continue to give our opinions, unique, harsh or otherwise. SBG |
Crazydog | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 11:07 am     I am sure the dates are edited, but I don't think what is coming out of her mouth and the mouths of her two friends is editing. Isn't that part done live? She is actually saying all these cruel things to these guys, and I don't think there is any editing in that. I just don't like the sense of entitlement she has. She wanted America to make the choice, and America is doing that. But when America votes for the wrong people, she screams bloody murder. If she wanted to go on a reality dating show, she could have applied for the Bachelorette. But she applied for a show in which she would let America choose, in exchange for a million dollars. She has absolutely no right to dictate how America should vote. She is nothing more than a paid actor at this point. |
Sweetbabygirl | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 11:09 am     (SBG scurries back in to say she meant future Cupid postings, not TV Clubhouse posts) (Skips out of the thread) |
Moondance | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 11:11 am     Good Post Alley! |
Bonnyswan | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 11:15 am     LMAO SBG...thanks for bucket hehe. I agree that they should show more of whats going in the house so we can SEE what all the fuss is about. But I do have to say just because the other guys dont like him that doesnt makes him a bad guy. Im not even saying it is jealousy. Its just if I think the rest of them are duds why would I give hoot about their opinion of Hank? How often do people seek advice on character from those they dont like, ya know...for instance if I think Robert is a creepy freak why would his opinion on anyone sway me? |
Gigglesalot | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 11:20 am     If you truly think Hank was serious about the ‘working mom’ comment, go for it – in the show I was watching he was trying to make a joke but it didn’t come out right since he was so nervous. Since I’ve been so nervous before I’m actually said, “Wello, webho you?” I felt for the guy. Enough already with the “Hank’s an egotistical pig and wants Lisa to work while her kids are babies”! He was joking – and he tried to correct his flub but still didn’t have the organized words for it on live TV.
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Kellirippa | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 11:30 am     I don't think he was joking Giggle, in fact I clearly remember him saying..You should work, your mind is the best part of you... I think it was more of an attempt to complement her than a joke. |
Gigglesalot | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 11:37 am     Since Lisa has a definite opinion on whether she wants to work or not when she has kids, don’t you think that if there was a true difference of opinion between the two of them she would have voiced it by now? And, I also seem to remember that the topic came up during the date montage and it was stated there that Hank agreed with her. – Again, I’m recalling this from MY edited version. (undoubtedly not what you all see)
This all is my opinion and no malice is meant by it - just my opinions |
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