Archive through September 08, 2003
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Archive through September 08, 2003
Mizinvanccouver | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:36 pm     Dee--That's how I interpreted her dream too. Which I thought strange since I think Dave is smart and I thought she would think that too. If anything maybe I could see a similarity with Dave and the Lion? Needing Courage? But even that isn't accurate because he's very courageous the way he handles the **** that some of those houseguests have given him. |
Realityfan | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:36 pm     Do you think that they will figure out that Andon is sucking up to get to them, as shown on the preview for next week? |
Mizinvanccouver | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:39 pm     I sure hope so Realityfan. I don't think they are clueless. I'm assuming Dave did clue in when Andon came to him saying he misinterpreted what he said earlier. Andon is such a <M>, if he really wanted to suck up he should have just apologized for what he said and take responsibility. |
Realityfan | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:44 pm     Mizinvanccouver I read your post earlier on Charla's 30's comment, I really think she did not intend to send a message to everyone that is 30 and not married. Just to Toni for hanging on a TV show with a lot of younger people, and that it was weird for Toni not to have more going for her than a TV show. I hope you understand the way I see this comment. |
Mizinvanccouver | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:45 pm     Ok just a thought and I hope this doesn't rub anyone the wrong way.... I really like Dave and think he's smart and fun but he's not the BEST looking guy, lets just say it. Wouldn't it be cool (Only if Dave would be happy about it, otherwise if he's happy now then leave it alone. Also if it wasn't so darn painful!!) if he got accepted as a contestant on "Extreme Makeover" and then they had a reunion later for Paradise Hotel? They would all sooooooooooooo SUCK UP to him if he came back all made over. This group is so superficial that way, it's all about appearances. I hope I don't upset anyone with this....just a THOUGHT is all. I like Dave the way he is. |
Realityfan | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:47 pm     I have to admit my favorite comment was Keith's regarding Zack, I think Zack will hate that Keith had the last word. |
Mizinvanccouver | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:50 pm     Realityfan--Well I don't think there is anything wrong with having 'just' the tv show as far as her life lately. I'm not defending her actions but I don't think there's anything wrong with her choosing to be on reality tv shows either. Besides really what does Charla or anyone on that show REALLY know about Toni's personal life anyway? I was just surprised that Charla would judge her or anyone that way. I thought she was above that. P.S. I got mod'd....sorry mods....didn't think stars were that bad, thought I had moded (sp??) myself. lol |
Realityfan | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:51 pm     I think Amy needs a makeover also, including how a women should be treated by a man. I bet her mother is in shock on how Amy lets Zack treat her. |
Mizinvanccouver | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:59 pm     Yes, Amy most certainly does need a make over. Speaking of mothers....lol...how about that comment Zack made that his mother loved Amy?? LOL I was thinking...geesh..is this woman watching the same show I am?? LOL |
Nanalinda | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 09:08 pm     Realitynut--sorry for the delay.I sent email to askfox@foxinc.com I got the addr from Fox website. I also read some of the discussion board on Fox's website--98% think the same way we do. I don't remember the last time I felt like this about a tv show. I think Dave,Charla & Keith should sue Fox for subjecting them to this. |
Tagurit | Friday, September 05, 2003 - 04:46 am     I didn't take Charla saying people in their alliance were like the Wizard of Oz characters any other way than the way Realfan explained. She wasn't being mean to anyone at all. Also, in the movie, they all stuck together, looked out for each other and got to the Wizard (end prize) together. As for Dave needing "Extreme Makeover" - why? He seems very content with himself. Just because viewers perceive him as not the best looking guy on tv (I have a hard time getting past the nose), does not mean he doesn't like what he sees when he looks into a mirror. He has nothing to prove to any other person on that show than to himself. He has proven he is a good, decent person on the inside. His looks shouldn't matter. I would imagine he has many a woman emailing him saying they would date him. As for writing the producers, hopefully they take reactions into consideration for PH2. I doubt it thought. They got what they wanted - people to talk about it and get emotions going. Actually, I want to know whose idea it was anyway. In roaming around the internet, I found an interview with Toni after she left. In it she said (can't remember exact words), "All I want is a 48 hour pass back there. That would be great. I would start calling people out." So, was it already known they would go back or did they really take the idea from her?? I'll look again and post a link to the interview for those that want to read it. (If I don't get back here, it was in an article from Zap2It.) As for suing, they really can't. They all signed up for it. They subjected themselves to the horrible treatment by wanting to win (whatever the prize is) and be on TV. If anything, this has made them so much stronger. It sucked what they had to go through but I think it does help them in the long run. They now know exactly how to handle crazy, insane, mean, and nasty people. |
Realitynut | Friday, September 05, 2003 - 07:30 am     Thanks Nanalinda - I am going to send them my $.02. Everytime I think about it I get so mad. When Alex was pulling on Dave's ears, I just got sick. I don't understand how people can be so cruel. The kid that got made fun of and had his ears pulled in front of all the other kids could very well be the one who comes to school with a gun. And these are supposed to be adults. |
Kady | Friday, September 05, 2003 - 11:28 am     The producers did get what they wanted...people talking about the show. I've noticed it here and other sites I visit. I really don't think this show is planned out. I think they just make up the twist and turns as they go. If they do another PH, it will have even different twists I bet. I am sure it has been mentioned but I will bring it up again. Have ya'll noticed how many of the originals are from Arizona? Zack, Amy, Alex, Kristen and Beau are all from Arizona. I just really think that is strange. Dave is not attractive to me in the looks department. But it behavior and personalty would make me overlook alot of that if I was a single woman. An extreme makeover would probably do him wonders and give him more confidence and self esteem. I bet when he falls in love, she will be a lucky girl. The not knowing the prize is bugging me more than anything. I can't believe those people are putting up with that treatment unless they have been told it would be something big. But you never hear them mention anything about a prize. Just that they are playing a game and want to win. "WIN WHAT" I say!!! |
Grooch | Friday, September 05, 2003 - 11:33 am     I remember reading somewhere that the prize is that they can live at the hotel for as long as they want to for life. I don't know if it is true or not. |
Tashakinz | Friday, September 05, 2003 - 12:25 pm     Re: Charla & the Wizard of Oz analogy. The only thing that still makes me wonder exactly how to interpret it is her comment on Tara: Paraphrase: "Tara's the cowardly lion - she always runs away." So, are we to take this as Charla believes Tara is a coward, or that Tara will become brave? |
Deesandy | Friday, September 05, 2003 - 12:47 pm     I personally think that Dave is a good looking guy, inside and out! |
Mizinvanccouver | Friday, September 05, 2003 - 05:02 pm     Tagurit said: ________________________________________________ As for Dave needing "Extreme Makeover" - why? He seems very content with himself. Just because viewers perceive him as not the best looking guy on tv (I have a hard time getting past the nose), does not mean he doesn't like what he sees when he looks into a mirror. He has nothing to prove to any other person on that show than to himself. He has proven he is a good, decent person on the inside. His looks shouldn't matter. I would imagine he has many a woman emailing him saying they would date him. _________________________________________________ I couldn't have said it better myself!! I was just saying if Dave wanted to it sure would be interesting. I'm positive Dave will find a loving relationship after this show. He's a great guy! |
Reader234 | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 05:46 am     I just cant sto shaking my head over this show, this has become the "train wreck", and of course it would be on Fox network!! I have to agree with the posters on the bullying aspect of this show, I cant see an outcome where a strong bullyier wouldnt "win". Its the message that is in all schools, just not magnifyed to this degree, and not so openly embraced!! The real twist would be a reunion of this "cast" where everyone makes nice, and says they still stay in touch with ALL of the cast - then you know we've been 'played'... because I was thinking when the cast returned they couldnt have watched the episodes, they must've been in a seperate location, like a 'jury' house... and either the producers tell them to pretend they've watched shows, and this and such has been going on... or they were shown clips (there's the editing) to use before re - entering... and what happened to Tom?!!!! Was he the wicked witch that was found under Charla's house? Guess we'll know when the voting happens, how many guys/ girls cast a "vote" again? I know there is speculation on who would most likely vote for whom... I could see where Desiree is totally put off by Charla, if the editing is an indication, Charla was trying hard to get the alliance stronger- - Holly is the wild card here I think... It will be interesting to see how Amy campaigns for her choice!! |
Curiouscat | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 03:06 pm     I think they editted Tom out of the recent episodes for a reason. Even though he has been shown listening to Desiree's complaints about Charla and crew, they have not really shown his responses. They seem to be keeping Tom's image clean so we like him. I'm guessing he will come into play in upcoming episodes, either staying with Desiree or hooking up with the girl who gets voted in. It may be a build up to him as one of the winners in the end. He is neither an original nor a "Barbie" member. For that reason the final voting may swing in his favour if he's someone in the last two couples left. |
Reader234 | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 06:59 am     Reading over at another website, while this site was improving, and someone posted that Toni was on a late night (Tom Green maybe?) and he asked her about the male 'winning', she might have "spoiled".... < < < < < <<she mentioned Tom, someone else, and Beau, They asked saying Beau was voted off, and she ssputtered apparently, but then again, I didnt see the interview, and have forgotten, which website I read this on, so take it for what its worth!! |
Jan | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 08:37 am     Yes I read that at another site too, Reader. It was in the context that Toni did not want Keith or David to win. She would rather see Tom or Scott or the one you mention in your spoiler. Since he isn't there now, it was assumed at that site that he must be the one that gets voted back in...unless she was deliberately misleading people. |
Realfan | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 09:35 am     The prize won't be staying at the hotel forever. I think that was Toni's idea of a joke. It's a real hotel in Acapulco. I bet there are a lot of rooms we don't see, ones not poolside. Where else would the returning oldies be staying? I wouldn't mind if Dave decided he needed a makeover, but that's his decision. He's cool regardless. The numerous people from Arizona was a little unfair--it gave them an instant bond. They were probably going cheap on casting calls, and hit only a handful of cities, Phoenix being one of them. I also didn't take Charla's comment about Toni to be anything more than pointing out that Toni has a desperation about her for a 30-year-old woman. She's hanging with young 20-somethings, this is at least her second reality show (Love Cruise being the other, and I think she was on Blind Date, too), she told them all about that, so it's clear this IS her career. I, for one, do think it's a little sad, but it has nothing to do with her marital status. The main thing is, for someone who's 30, she doesn't ACT LIKE IT. |
Rabernet | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 09:50 am     OMG, Saturday night I had a dream that I was sitting at a buffet table with all the members of PH and then Charla (who I adore) started saying that I was a liar and a backstabber and turning everyone against me. I was like, "Charla!!! I just got here, and no offense to anyone else here, but I've been rooting for you the whole time, how could you say that about me? You're one of my favorites!" Then all the others left the table with Charla to talk about me and the only ones who stayed at the table were Dave, Keith and someone else (who was not on the show, but was there in my dream) and tried to comfort me and tell me not to worry about it. I woke up so mad at Charla, and then couldn't get on the boards to post about it! LOL Think I'm obsessing about the show or what? LOL |
Ginger1218 | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 01:11 pm     I have to say that this show has the biggest group of losers I have ever seen on any reality show. They are disgusting examples of human beings, if you really want to call them that. Ugh Ugh Ugh. |
Tagurit | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 01:57 pm     Hi Ginger! Does anyone remember Amanda's wording about two guests getting voted back in? Did she say they would again be playing for the end prize? For the life of me, I can't remember what she said. What is said and not said is important and I don't remember if she specifically said they would be playing again. You know, it is just one of those stupid things that drives ya nuts until you get an answer. lol |
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