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Not1worry

Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 05:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I loved the visit with Adrienne's mom. Her mom was so supportive and it's clear that they are very close. I probably would have been crying along with Adrienne in the confessional if I hadn't been so distracted by that awful knit hat she was wearing.

I like Elyse and can concede she may be the best at modeling. But I want Adrienne to win!

Texasdeb

Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 06:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I so totally agree w/you Not1worry, Adrienne all the way! If Elyse wants to model, Elyse WILL model. This girl has a drive to go after her goals (that's prob. what has pushed her into my top 2). Adrienne seems to need this & I expect she would give 110% always. That's why she is my #1.

Texasdeb

Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 06:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm so with you Not1worry. Adrienne all the way! If Elyse decides she wants to model, Elyse will model. This girl goes after what she wants. She will be a success @ whatever she does. I think Adrienne NEEDS this & will thrive!

Jan

Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 06:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
me too! Adrianne all the way...SIGH ...but we don't get to vote

Pamy

Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 07:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Beachcomber...I was very close to my mom(like Adrienne)she died in June of 97, so this month is always hard on me, I think that is one of the reasons I was so touched by the love between them, just made me miss my mom that much more.

Scorpiomoon

Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 12:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hugs to you, Pamy. :)

Are we all in agreement? We all want Adrienne to win, right?Two other thoughts come to mind:

Did anyone notice how Giselle was saying how no one in her family supported her, but then she was disappointed when she couldn't have a "loved one" visit? Maybe she wanted to show off to a family member or something, but you'd think the last thing someone would want is to have a negative person visit you when you're in the midst of this crazy competition.

Also, you know, Robin may have a nice face, and she might have the right body for plus-sized modeling, but the woman has NO "sex appeal". She is so tense and so wound up and so far removed from her sexuality. She can't (and won't) let it come through. I think both men and women are drawn to people who have that "electricity" about them. Robin doesn't have it, nor does she want it. I hope she is gone next week.

Bracken

Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 07:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Beachcomber - Just read your post and agree that the medical profession sure isn't what it used to be, a good friend who is an orthopaedic surgeon is getting killed with malpractice insurance costs, etc., and let's not even get started on the number of doctors dropping obstetrics because of this factor. Regarding Elyse's intelligence level, please see my post which is a news article in June 4 group. Seems to me that she may be one of those few that really is intellectually superior and not just through hard work.

I'd like to know what you think after you have had a chance to read the article -- is the Albert Einstein School top notch? I know Harvard Law School grads that aren't that smart, but University of Chicago Law School and Northwestern grads that are so smart I can't understand them, lol. So, I'm not always impressed with the "Harvard" label -- I'm sure Harvard has it's share of legacy and "other" students -- didn't our President -- George W Bush -- go to their business school -- He certainly doesn't rate too highly on my "intellectual" meter.

Bbfanatic

Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 08:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
you listen to the clinton news network (cnn) too much !!

Not1worry

Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 10:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I wanted to like Robin, since I certainly lean more toward the "plus" size. But she is so sour! When the guy doing the publicity interviews said that no one could be that good and she said "Well, today you met Robin!". Oh my heavens, I wanted to punch her.

Fluff

Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 11:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL! That was so funny! But yet, she skipped out on the question about her virginity!

That girl is a nut!

Not1worry

Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 01:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She may have skipped out on the question, but I think everyone could figure out the answer!

Beachcomber88

Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 05:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bracken, I went back and read the article. I used Harvard as an example, but certainly I agree, it's not all about where you went to school. We all must surely know super smart/bright people who attended "average" schools and also those who have the college pedigree but nothing going on upstairs.

Elyse's story is no different than the typical pre-med student. First of all, a full ride at University of New Mexico? While I certainly do not want to offend any UNM folks... New Mexico? It's not that uncommon to have full rides at lesser known schools - they're trying to attract students that otherwise would not even ask for an admissions application. Her research in biochemistry and biology also does not impress me. Research is something that all pre-med students should do. And at the undergraduate level, it often involves a lot of grunt work and "menial" tasks. It certainly doesn't involve conducting your own experiments. As far as Albert Einstein, well let's just say that it wouldn't be my first pick, but that's not to say that there's not good doctors that have gone there.

My comments about Elyse's supposed intellectual superiority are based on my own experience having already run this rat race. I know the pressure that comes with keeping up your grades for the dreaded med school admissions commitees. I know what it's like to work in a research labaratory, despite not really enjoying it but knowing that it's something I "have to do". To me, her story is not anything out of the ordinary. Yes, she's worked hard and has had success in her education. Is becoming a doctor demonstrate that you're intellectual more gifted than everyone else? Perhaps to those in the non-medical fields, yes. But to those of us who are already there, no.

Scorpiomoon

Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 06:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Beach: First, you'll have to excuse me; I'm jumoing into this portion of the conversation without having gone back to read previous posts. I did want to comment on the latter part of your post.

For me, it's not so much that I think she believes (or is) a more superior person because of her educational pursuits. I think she is superior (on a certain level) because she has expanded herself--her knowledge of the world-- rather than stay within a self-absorbed vacum. Take someone like Robin whose life is very fixed. She has no inclination to learn beyond what she knows or challenge herself intellectually--or so it would seem.

Elyse, you and anyone who takes upon the task of learning and evolving is superior--in my opinion.

Laura11103

Friday, June 20, 2003 - 07:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
One thing I noticed, when Robin was asked why she should win, she went on to say how it would be such a good opportunity for HER and on and on about how it would be so good for HER. I think what they wanted to know was what made HER so great to be the one to win... I thought her answer sucked, cuz she didn't answer it correctly. She was supposed to sell herself, not talk about why she wanted to win.

Gina8642

Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 12:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought Robyn's answer was a little bit odd, it sounded straight out of a pagent. I was suprised, after they've already critizied her for her pagent type style. I was waiting for her to argue that her winning this contest would help underprilidged kids or something.

Sweetbabygirl

Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 12:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Does UPN intend to show a marathon of this series? I could kick myself for not watching it.

Gina8642

Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 01:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Reality TV was made for marathons. I wish all of them would run back-to-back one time at the end of the season. I got hooked on reality TV years and years ago one weekend day when MTV ran the London Real World for hours and hours.

Pamy

Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 02:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Entertainment weekly reviewed this show, Fame, and American Juniors, they gave Fame an F (I don't agree I like that show!) American Juniors got a D (that one is ok for me) but the big news is that they gave Top Model a B+ !!!!!

Kappy

Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 11:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yay ~ it's Sunday so I finally got to see the episode here. I agree with all the above comments about the reunion between Adrianne and her mom. And it was fun to see how Elyse interacts with someone she knows from outside. I keep waiting for Robyn to wake up to the real world of modeling. I thought most had given up being seen in furs. Maybe she has never heard of PETA, lol? Plus, because of her anti-homosexuality comments, I keep wondering - does she not realize that there are gays working on her make-up and hair on this show? And yes, Janice was atrocious! She's still living in the '80's. And I agree with applauding Tyra for the statements she made about plus size models and the problems with young women trying to starve themselves today. I'm so glad that EW gave it a good review. That means it will actually finish it's run so we can find out who wins, unlike some other reality shows.

Not1worry

Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 05:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tonight they are re-running last weeks episode and this time I wore my headphones and caught a bunch of stuff I missed last week. One thing that stood out - Adrienne does have a terrible accent, but I'd rather listen to her voice over Robin's. Robin's sticky Southern accent is horrible. Kesse has poor enunciation and her speech has a very uneducated sound.

When Janice said that Adrienne's accent made her cringe, the very way she said it made me cringe! She's got an accent herself.

As Elyse's boyfriend came in, I was thinking that all the stylists and fashion gurus there must have been dying to get their hands on him. He needed a haircut in the worst way. Sweet guy though.

My all-time favorite comment of the show was Adrienne in the confessional with her mom and said "It kicks @ss to have her here, it kicks major @ss." She's such a little metal chick.

Demeter

Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 06:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Great episode the second hour!

Gina8642

Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 07:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Who went?

I got baseball tonight. Probably won't get to see tonight's ep until next Sat.

Scorpiomoon

Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 07:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow! Great episode!

I am so SICK of Shannon and Robin.

What the hell does Shannon think modelling is about? Does she think just because she is pretty that everyone is going to accomodate her conservative attitude? Even though she was into that Brad guy, she was so tense.

And, geez, Robin is so uptight! Judging from the previews, Robin has a meltdown over a nude shoot. I hope it gets her booted next week.

God knows I dislike Robin, but I thought it was inventive of her to ask the guy for help. I, personally, wouldn't have done it that way, but you got to give her credit for completing the task.

I can't believe Kesse stopped to SHOP! What was she thinking?

Of course Elyse figured out the Metro system and did everything with grace. I like her so much. I just wish she was as passionate as Adrienne.

Poor Adrienne. Who could blame her for being upset when they guy touched her leg? I wish she'd realize though that she's going to have change somewhat to make it as a model. I don't think she gets that.

I agreed with what Janice had to say about Robin. But that ton of freakin' black eyeshadow she was wearing looked horrid. Is black eyeshadow the new way to cover wrinkles, Janice?

Not1worry

Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 07:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gina, Kesse got cut. I really really REALLY wanted Robin to go this time. I thought she did poorly on everything and she's just too spoiled.

Kesse did good, although not great. Not sure why she got cut, although I'm sure it's getting harder and harder to pick someone. I think not showing enough motivation on the go-see interviews did her in. It was her and Adrienne at the end. I was getting really nervous since they'd made negative comments about Adrienne.

They all seem to adore Elyse, she can do no wrong. I thought all of the lingerie pictures were very bad. Elyse was the only one that you could even see her.

I really sympathized with them trying to get around Paris, that looked so challenging.

Scorpiomoon

Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 07:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gina: Kesse was eliminated.