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Nutsy

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 07:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, good to know I'M not the psycho!

Thanks, I knew I could count on TVCH folks to help me out!!

Redhalo

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 07:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I loved Keith's remark about Zack. "What does it mean to me that Zack can't come back? It means I kicked him off.......again." LOL...classic.

This show was better then Monday's but it still was un-nerving. The gall of the Oldies. I wonder why they think they are justified in their actions. Toni "IS better"....and Kirsten "none of us have done anything wrong"............don't they hear themselves?

I think Desiree is a lost cause. She's in with the oldies and she is going to stay there. Scott? Tom? Holly? Wish Monday would get here....

Ladydewtel

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 07:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just have to put my 2 cents in here. I think it was wrong that Zack was made inelagible. I think he should have been kicked off right then and there.
The sad thing is that 2 year olds act more mature than they do. Especially Zack. Andon you are no better. I will not watch this show again next year if there is a next year.
I think I watch to much reality T.V. because I called it 3 weeks ago that Amanda said no new guest would be on. I told my husband she didn't say anything about old ones. I also called the BB HOH before it came on. This isn't reality it is all staged in my opinion.

Tagurit

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 07:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Did anyone notice that Scott tended to distance himself from the returning guests (except Melanie)? Maybe he has finally seen what morons most of them are and doesn't want any part of it.

Funniest line for me -
Charla to Dave - do you know you can hear a mosquito at night when you are crazy?
I just thought that was hysterical. :)

I too enjoyed Keith's moment to the camera about getting Zack kicked off a second time. :)

Dogdoc

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 07:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I loved the look an Amy's face when they announced that Zack was ineligible.I am so glad he did not get away with making threats. Why do we have to see Toni's eyes and hear her voice again! The negative energy brought into Paradise by this returning group is scary. Take them away, please!

Surealityjunkie

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 07:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it will be

Tara -- Matt
Charla -- Matt
Holly -- Matt/wildcard as she doesn't really know anyone
Desiree -- Alex
Amy -- Andon/Alex if she not still "mad" at him...

Scott -- Melanie
Dave -- Kavita/Amanda
Keith -- Kavita/Amanda
Tom -- wildcard, who knows? You know, he might vote with D/K since is his trying to "play" them...

Highlighter

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 08:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think, strategically, that Dave and Keith should also vote for Melanie. It would break up the Scott/Holly alliance.

My favorite part of tonight was when Amy confronted Alex about not voting for her as queen. Bingo. At least one of the *^$% got exposed. I'm still feeling sick from the Monday episode, but there were a few redeeming moments in tonight's show. Wow, the sucking up to the remaining guests was gross, though. I can't believe Andon told Dave that Dave "misunderstood" everything Andon had said, and that if Dave were a Real Man, he would sit back down with Andon and listen to his explanation. Barf.

My first .02 :)

Jan

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 08:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
welcome highlighter. A good 2 cents it was!

I have so much respect for Dave now...and for Keith. I just wish that they both could win

Kady

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 08:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here are some of my rambling thoughts about tonights show.

I don't remember Melanie so she must not have made any impression on me...good or bad. Somebody should have come and got Zack on the spot and threw him out. I was taught to never say I hated anyone but I am about to break that and say I hate Amy and Toni. Scott is very disappointing, I thought he was more mature than the others but I am beginning to think he enjoys watching their bad behaviour. I want to know why Amanda suddenly switched sides. I knew Amy would be mad at Alex for voting for Tara in the Queen contest.

I think Matt and Kavita will be the two voted back in. I then hope Desiree will be the first out and take her psycho buddy Tom with her.

Kathyb

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 08:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Didn't the originals all turn on Amanda at some point? What's bothering me SO much about what's been going on is : if these attackers were using their fists instead of words, they would be kicked off the show and probably arrested. The emotional battering that's going on is apparently acceptable (possibly encouraged) by the producers. There's not much difference, IMO.

Penpoint

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 08:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Saw this thing for the first time tonight. I realize I'm coming into the middle of it, but it compares to Big Brother like a Kia compares to a Rolls Royce.

Maryk

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 09:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm a little apprehensive about the vote especially for the guy going back in. Hasn't Desiree switched over to the dark side? Wouldn't Amy, Desiree get Holly (who voted to keep Alex) to invite back somebody like Alex or Beau back? Also on the women coming back, Tom and Scott has much control of who comes back as Keith and Dave.
I'm just saying that I don't think its a lock that the Fab 4 would have somebody who is favorable to them automatically be coming in.

Surealityjunkie

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 09:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Penpoint, I must ask, which one is which (Kia & Rolls Royce) -- because this show has been my Rolls Royce hands down!

Yes, the originals turned on Amanda during "Project TerminateHER"... Beau, Zack, and Alex and all of the "kewl" girls wanted her out because they were mad at her with the way she handled herself when her ex, Jason, was there... she didn't come out and play with them. she was holed up in her room for 48 hrs. and they basically "forgot" she was there... remember that? At that point, the only chance she had for survival was alligning herself with Charla and Tara -- who by the way promised to save her but didn't.


Hightlighter, I kinda think SCOTT jacked things up with Holly on his own without Melanie needing to come back. If I was there and I was virtually ignored for 48hrs. by my bedbud, I would be pretty ticked off at that point. I'm not trying to hear what he is saying you know??? Especially if Melanie doesn't come back and then Scott is looking at Holly wanting to try and pick up where they left off... not cool at all in my book!


AuntieMike: "Matt(hew) JC" is a musician from Dallas who was choosen like two weeks after Dave. It was before their "new person immunity rule" so he was voted off the following week just as Kavita was... Hope I didn't confuse you too much in my posts. The first time he came around he was Matt JC, now I guess he is just Matt!

Surealityjunkie

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 09:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
MaryK, the only thing that gives me hope right now is that the "originals" have been ignoring holly since they have been back -- as well as scott (at least that is what editing makes us think...) so she might not be ready to just hop on in and do whatever they want her to do since she wasn't readily embraced during this time. the only ones who really got their foot in that door were Tom, Smokey, & Desiree... I am going to hold out hope that some good will come out of all of this evilness...

Kappy

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 09:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm 30 min. into tonight's show. Can I just arrrgggghhhhhh!!!!! And yes Toni is as big a b----h as she ever was!

Costacat

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 09:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm still in the midst of watching this show tonight, and I am so appalled. I'm appalled at the producers for allowing people to treat other people like this. I'm appalled at Zack and Alex and their extremely childish behaviour. I'm appalled at the others in their "alliance" who think they are not doing anything wrong or who think they are amusing. (They are only encouraging them.)
I'm appalled that Zack was not kicked off the show immediately. Allowing him to stay and enjoy the luxe surroundings was a small compensation for not being allowed back in.

Most of all, I'm appalled that Fox has allowed this show to continue to this point.

I sincerely hope that Amy will be thoroughly embarrassed by her behaviour when she gets home. And if she's not, I sincerely hope that someone will enlighten her as to how she *really* looked on this show. And it was NOT cute!

I am thoroughly disgusted and will no longer watch this show. I will check to see who the two voted back in are, and then who the ultimate winner is (but only because I'm hoping that Dave & Charla or Keith & Tara win).

ALL of the people on this show are old enough to know better. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM should be royally embarrassed (except for the few, and you know who they are).

Kathat

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 09:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with you Costacat. It is very appalling and even worse than I ever remember junior high school being. I cannot believe they have seen themselves as they acted before and then are coming back and acting ten times worse. This is the craziest show I have ever seen and I am so embarrassed for most all of them. Their poor parents if they are watching.

Kappy

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 09:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay ~ I had to turn this off half-way through. This is the most disturbing display among contestants I have ever seen. Where did we ever get the idea Toni had gained any more brains then she had before? I've seen bitter people before, especially on BB last year, but this is too much. The producers should truly be ashamed. Since when did emotional abuse become entertainment? And these same emotional abusers get to decide the final winners of an as-yet-unknown prize? I hope the prize includes a free year of therapy!

Avrey258

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 09:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know which of the originals said this, I think it was Alex? It was said to Dave that all of America thinks you're a joke! Hello Alex, you need a reality check, every board I've been to is disgusted by the behavior of Toni, Kristin, Alex, Andon, Zack and Amy. I'm sure I am leaving someone out.
The only returning people who were decent were Matt and Kavita. I guess Melanie has been O.K. but she is glued to Scott. I am really disappointed in Desiree, I hope she sees how she came across on the show. She wanted to be in the alliance with Tara, Charla, Dave and Keith. I don't know what her problem is!

Poor Keith. He does not deserve any of this. It is so sad that this game has turned into such a bitter fued. He is right about these losers not having a life outside this game. Charla was funny when she said people in her family that are thirty yrs. old have lives, families, jobs. That was said in reference to Toni. Good one Charla!

Myjohnhenry

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 10:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, well, well...another train wreck of a show full of childish and boorish behavior by a bunch of bitter people who lost a game! And to say that they aren't embarrassed by their behavior and that they haven't done anything wrong is absolutely appalling and a sad statement if they truly believe it. I see several people who want to be a part of the perceived in crowd and participate fully in the shenanigans, yet you can glimpse a bit of a conscience in them...although that doesn't excuse their behavior in the least. Toni made me laugh when she said she came back to say something to Dave and then proceeded to basically say she wasn't going to be bothered and was bored by it all. Desiree...hello...many of these people she is now seeming to side with are the very ones who didn't want her there in the first place!
Tom is a wild card...haven't seen enough of him to know what he is thinking or where he is coming from. Holly's feelings are hurt and I think she is a wild card too. I had forgotten all about Melanie, but she is sure making her play to stay by trying to hook back up with Scott...who is a bit of an unknown entity as well at this point in time. And don't even get me started on Zack!!

I have been quite impressed with the cool, calm and collected way that Dave has handled all of this and even his "tormentors" have at least somewhat respected his response to them. He and Keith both seem to understand the "game" aspect of all of this. And I can't blame Charla for staying in her room...no reason to subject herself to the nasty and vile behavior. And kudos to all for not walking out when it would have been so easy and tempting to do so.

Monkeyboy

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 10:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yahtzee. Game on.

Myjohnhenry

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 11:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And just what is the deal with Amy jumping onto and wrapping her legs around each of her cronies as they walk in? Do you all greet your long lost friends that way?????
And how do Yahtzee and Game On relate to each other? Did I not learn the proper lingo for playing Yahtzee?

Rabernet

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 03:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow, what a night! Is it me, or do Melanie and Holly look strikingly similar? They could be sisters. Anyway, if I had my picks on who came back, I really would hope it would be Amanda (or Kavita) and Matt. I was really impressed with how Amanda behaved on her return visit. She's laying low with the old gang, and sympathetic with our fabulous four!

And thank GOODNESS that Zack is not eligible to come back! BAHHHH haaa haaaa! And Amy's face was priceless.

Did anyone else notice that Zack told Amy that his mother loved Amy? Hellooooooo???? Didn't he tell a sob story about how his mother dumped him? And how scarred he was for life?

Dogdoc

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 04:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Rabernet, I forgot that Zack told the sad tale of being left in the supermarket, but then again I try to forget anything he says and does. Zack, Amy and Toni toghether again! Maybe Stephen King is producing this show. Please change the plot. I cannot take any more of this cruel beavior.

Bonnies

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 07:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
These "visitors" should be ASHAMED of the way they acted, my god are they still in high school?

I especially like Charla's remark on about how all her relatives who are 30ish have families and have jobs. (Had to laugh at Toni about that one!)

Go Charla and Dave :)