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Kellirippa

Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 07:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have a question, the show is sponsored by loreal, they do a little loreal make-over section every show, they even mentioned a loreal make-up station in the mansion during the tour, here's the question: How come none of the kids ever look any different then they did in their auditions??

Jimmer

Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 09:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm very disappointed that Karen Lee is gone. She was definitely one of our favourites. I just don't understand some of the voting.

Kellirippa

Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 09:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, that was very strange. I really think that Mikey has to go, he looks and sounds too boy-band to me, and his voice is weak. And Karen Lee and Toya are two of the strongest singers in the competition.

Too bad for Karen, but I'm glad Toya gets another chance, hope she picks a little better outfit next week. She's the Kimberly Locke of Canadian Idol.

Jan

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 07:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I wondered about something when I saw who was out...I didn't turn the show on till 8 as I did not know it started earlier...I missed the first 4 who just happened to be the 4 who got the least votes! I obviously would not have voted for them (had I voted) as I did not see them.

Any chance that had something to do with the 3 who got kicked...people missed their performances?

Spitfire

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 07:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Does anyone else think that Ben really looks like a young Elvis?

Cinnamongirl

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 08:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Spitfire, he totally does! Thought so as soon as I first saw him.

Karen-Lee gone! I'm still in shock :(

Djgirl5235

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 09:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm in shock about Karen-Lee, and was disappointed that Jenny wasn't in the bottom, simply because she didn't understand the meaning of Possession by Sarah McLachlan. She seems to think that it's about sex, meanwhile, it's about stalking - not a good thing to misinterpret!

Anyway, I'm rooting for Ryan and Audrey - that's where my votes went on Monday night (I actually think that I cancelled each of them out, but at least they both survived this week)

As for Toya, I would like to see her gone - NOT because she is bad, she's wonderfully talented, HOWEVER, she has already had a recording contract, and in my opinion doesn't deserve to be on CI due to that fact. JUST MY OPINION!

Kellirippa

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 10:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That's a good point Jan, maybe that is what happened!

I think Ben Mulroney looks like a young Brian Mulroney.

So what happens to the winner of Canadian idol? They do a tour with the top 11, hit Vancouver, Victoria, Edmonton, Calgary, Saskatoon, Regina... and then they get a Canadian recording contract and release a single that gets tons of airplay,('cause it's Canadian content), and then either they go off to the U.S., because that's what we Canadians consider a real success, or else they have moderate Canadian success, tour in Victoria, Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, Saskatoon...all the way to Halifax..and then 10 years from now they re-release their biggest hit (a la Cori Hart), or they are in Peterborough playing keyboard and a medley of oldies at a Trent pub night (a la Burton Cummings) OR, they stay right here at home and become a Canadian Icon, we drag 'em out for the opening ceremonies for the olympics in Vancouver and the final game of the Stanley Cup, they're onstage in Ottawa every Canada Day, they become Gordon Lightfoot or Anne Murray...or JENNY GEAR....

Scorpiomoon

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 11:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Spitfire: I TOTALLY thought the same thing!

Kellirippa: (Re: Last post): I know what you mean. Even the "American Idols" don't have a long shelf life. I can't see Ruben or Kelly still having a strong following a few years from now. And I also can't see the winner of CI becoming a staple in the Canadian music scene.

I think breaking into the "biz" through a competition is a double-edged sword. Yes, you get a lot of attention very quick, but you're also thought of as a novelty--easily forgotten when the next "new" thing comes along. Look at the people who won "Popstars". Sugar Jones had one hit and, I would guess, virtually no one could name the winner of the second season. (Has there been three seasons of Popstars?)

Rissa

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 03:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
>>I think Ben Mulroney looks like a young Brian Mulroney. >> Ya think? :) Except that it looks *GOOD* on junior. LOL

I agree with your point as well, probably something to do with their start being the result of a gimic. But then, quite a few have made it big from that other talent show..... (name??) Ed McMahon hosted? Geez, getting old. LOL So I guess it comes down to finding not only talent but someone who WANTS it bad enough.

These kids are getting an overnight flash of success. Long term success will undoubtably mean a period of lean at some point... who will push through that and who will just go home and give up when the 15 minutes are over?

GO Audrey and Ryan!!

Llkoolaid

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 08:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
DJgirl, nice to see you, I have to say I agree about Toya, she had her break, I don't agree with her being there either.
I just loved Karen-Lee. My favorites are Gary Beals and Audrey but Ryan is growing on me although I am still mad at him for beating out Kevin. Lol, just kidding, Kevin did not deliver, he was too nervous and he blew it. Hope he tries again. He is booked all over the place here now.

Djgirl5235

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 11:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey there LL! I'm lurking more and more as BB progresses - I do this every year! Anyway, I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one who thinks that way about Toya - she's definitely talented, but she already had her chance - too bad if it didn't work out, that's the nature of the business!

I too liked Karen-Lee and was shocked to see her eliminated. Gary is talented, but his diction is horrible, and half the time I can't understand what he's singing because he runseachwordintoeachotherlikethis... Audrey definitely has the package and the talent, and Ryan just makes me smile - and he couldn't have picked a better song on Monday night for his voice!

BTW, Kevin did a good job but he did let the nerves get to him. Both my bf & I were not surprised to see him in the top three that night though! He did a good job, and I hope to see him try again! Good to hear that he's busy and you folks on the East Coast are supporting your own! :)

Kellirippa

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 02:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What exactly did Zack mean by, you may just be the best karaoke singer in Canada, and why did he use that as in insult? I get that being a karaoke singer is kind of tacky, but I don't think that he was saying Tyler is tacky...

Llkoolaid

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't get the karaoke insults either, isn't karaoke just meant for people to have fun whether they are good and bad. Around here it is fun to have at a party and everybody sings (except me). The worst singers get the most cheers just for having the guts to get up. Does anyone take it serious.

I wish Zach would stop trying to be Simon, he doesn't do it well. I don't mind critism but insults are not nessecary IMO.

Llkoolaid

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Djgirl, I know what you mean about Gary and running his words together. I do like his voice though and his personality is just so great. There seems to be a few singers with lisps this year, Richie had one , Toya has one and Gary's diction is horrible, also Jenny has a hard time stringing 4 words together to make a sentence. I can't make sense of what she is trying to say when she speaks. I also don't like the sound of her voice, she may have great control and hit all the right notes but it doesn't sound good to me. I would never buy her cd and if she was on the radio I would change stations. I swear she reminds me of a drunken country singer.

I think Audrey is winning this thing.

Rissa

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
K, I will take a stab at the Karaoke thingie. I am pretty sure I know what Zack means but we will see if I can get it out in printed form. :)

When someone sings Karaoke, the goal is simply imitation..... doing the best impersonation of the singer known for singing that particular song. Technically it may be good, but they haven't made the song *their own*, they haven't put any emotion or *heart* into it... they are just attempting to duplicate the original.

That's JMHO anyway, for what it's worth. LOL

I see the Zack/Simon thing a bit differently from you all it seems. It's the show (ala Mulroney) who keeps trying to stick Zack into that box. It's only their first live show and I am already rolling my eyes at the Zack-attack comments. Took me half-way through AI2 until I got there with Simon. :) Zack seems very intense to me, but much more generous with his comments than Simon ever was, although brutally honest at times as well. He also seems to just say what he's going to and turns to the next judge. Simon, on the other hand, seemed to thrive on the reactions he got and had that glint in his eyes before he opened his mouth... knowing what he was about to unleash. Again, JMHO

Scorpiomoon

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 09:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I absolutely agree with everything Rissa wrote. I think you nailed it re: Karaoke and about Zack.

Snee

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 10:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i also agree about the karaoke thing, and will add that karaoke is strictly amateur hour and these folks want to be professionals.

have i mentioned how SHOCKED AND APPALLED i am about karen-lee being sent packing? aaaaaah! since we seem to agree here that she was at the very least better than some who didn't get knocked out, i'll share a couple of theories.
1. as far as (possible) regional voting goes, i don't think b.c. is as revved up for our favourite as say, nfld, where i have a feeling everyone with fingers is voting multiple times. (btw, i was going to say 'fired up' which would be in bad taste since our premier declared a province-wide state of emergency because of the forest fires. yikes!)
2. the teeny-bopper girls are wearing out their redial buttons for mikey (why, i'm not so sure!)
3. (really snee-dad's theory) karen-lee just got married and people might not consider her to be in the same stage of life as the gotta make it or gotta die tryin' group.
4. people didn't like the song/performance and just didn't get behind her.

oh well.

i hope the voting next week is better (read: more how snee wants it to be!). bye bye bye mikey!

Djgirl5235

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 06:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You'd be surprised at the amount of talent a karaoke show can attract if it's a well run show. Not to toot my own horn, but my nickname here comes from the fact that I was nicknamed that when I was dj'ing. I was a karaoke host, and dj, and had one kick-butt party every Friday night. The purpose of karaoke is to make anyone a star for about 3 minutes. Everyone that came always had a good time.

Jan

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 06:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
snee there is also my "theory" that the 4 in last place also happened to be the 4 that performed first ...in the additional half hour added that people didn't expect and some didn't watch. I started watching at 8 as I was unaware the show started at 7:30. I missed ritchie and karen and toya and candida perform..what a coincidence that they got the least votes..maybe lots of people missed thier performances and , therefore, they didn't get the votes. Maybe lots of voters didn't know if they were good or not.

Scorpiomoon

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 08:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I mentioned before that regional voting could be a strong factor in this show. My theory was previously shot down.

But you have to admit, as Snee said, it can one of the few reasons why someone like Karen Lee was booted.

Jasper

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 08:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't recall if Candida was in the top four performers but neither she nor Ritchie were very good. Karen-Lee on the other hand I enjoyed, I did not like her much the first time around.

I like Zack as well, I prefer his honest comments and agree with Rissa re Ben putting Zack in the Simon box. Sass is just too fawning at times.

Hopefully next week we will see the end of mikey, imho he can't really sing that great and it always looks like he's going to pull something, everything with him is "schmaltzy" as Zack puts it.

Kellirippa

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 12:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Rissa, I guess if that's what Zack meant by Karaoke, that would make sense...but if that's the case I would have to say that Ryan (and I actually love Ryan, he might even be my fav at this point)was the karaoke king that night..his version of Try was a Blue Rodeo dead ringer, I was actually expecting the judges to mention the lack of making the song his own.

Kellirippa

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 04:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Does anybody know if they are knocking 3 off every time?

Jan

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 04:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
nope..tonight on Etalk daily, Ben said they will knock off two this Monday to bring it down to 6..then every week after that only 1 will be eliminated each week