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Lovedana

Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 08:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
See, I'm confused. She claimed she wasn't obligated to share the 2 million with him, but I thought it was part of the contract if he accepted her proposition? Ummmm....

Secondly, why only $500 K? I'm confused. Is that what the contract said? She seems too greedy to voluntarily share more than she's obliged to share.

Thirdly, it still seems clear to me that Erin was interested in the money more than the guy. He was an extra commodity that she had to keep as part of the contract in order to get the money. Too bad Chad doesn't seem to get it. Chad is a lot like Robert was, except Chad is a decent and goofy guy. I mean, Robert kept asking leading questions, and I so thought those questions served a purpose. Apparently not because he still made the stupid choice. Hello? What was the point of the leading questions if you couldn't see the obvious that she wasn't interested in you? Maybe he was being honest after all and didn't want to hurt Paige by taking her with a half heart and a million dollar.

Anyway, I think Erin picked the perfect candidate. Unlike Robert, she's very perceptive and knows what to do with the data. All she was thinking about is whether or not he would accept her proposal so she could bank in the check. I would bet that they will be breaking up soon. I think Chad is starting to realize it but they were both posing for the camera. Now that it's out, they will soon break up. It's my opinion, but I would be pleased to learn that it worked out for them.

By the way, wouldn't it be nice if they gave the contestants options to decline the money and the women/men? What if someone doesn't love any of the women/men and would rather not take the money in exchange either? See, that's why I like Cupid very much. They force the couples to deal with their true feelings for one year before they can get the money. If they're great actors and actresses, so be it. They deserve the money for pulling it for one whole year.

Realbiz

Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 08:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I wonder if Chad changed his mind at the last minute to choose Erin? You know, all that pressure and cameras around, at least he was considering taking the money. However he couldn't be so cold-hearted since Erin in the end said she was falling in love with him, then he took a HUGE leap of faith as they both admitted.

I wonder how they are doing NOW - wish I could catch the morning shows... Anyway both Wade and Chad seemed to be great guys.

Brenda1966

Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 09:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lovedana -- the 2 million was hers to keep, she was in no way obligated to share it or split it.

I'd guess that Erin and Chad haven't been able to continue their relationship much since they couldn't be seen together until the show aired, so I'm sure their relationship probably is up in the air. I wish them the best -- they make a cute couple.

Floridagirl1010

Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 09:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
They said that they had been together secretly and it seems like they are doing great! I like them together and I wish them the best:)
Hopeless romantic that I am:)

Lovedana

Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 09:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I see, Brenda1966. So Chad could have gotten nothing if she chose not to split her money? Interesting because from FLOM 1, Robert gave the impression that it was part of the contract that he would split the money with Erin (or anyone else) if she had accepted his proposition. Well, if she did it all on her own, then that explains the meager offer. She's stingy. Thanks for the response, Brenda1966.

Floridagirl1010, I beg to differ. Although they said they've been together secretly, it still seemed like a farce to me. I think they felt they should hold up for the show to be aired and completed before they went their separate ways. I felt there was no sincere affection on Erin's end. Anyway, I do hope you're right about their intentions and things work out for them. It just doesn't seem likely from the surface.

Chad is too goofy and silly. I like that about him, but Erin honestly, in my opinion, doesn't seem to like that kind of personality.

Mack

Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 09:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
My wife and I were also confused about the money split. Erin was a bit confusing about just exactly what she was doing. It seemed to come down to that, as a gesture of her "love", she was going to share the money with him. She seemed to imply that the $2M was made up of the original $1M she'd put at stake plus the $1M that Chad had given up by accepting her. It would appear then what she did was split the second million and thus the $500,000 figure.

OK...for what it's worth that makes sense but then the question that comes to mind is whether or not she was required to do the split. When she first started talking about sharing the money we got the impression this was solely her idea and, as I said, a gesture of committment. However, obviously the producers/director were involved because they'd provided the blank check for her to write on so it couldn't have been totally spontaneous. In fact, they may have even "suggested" she do it but not stipulated an amount since they didn't pre-print the check she gave him. Of course, it was much more dramatic to have her write it out for him on the spot so maybe the whole split was canned from the beginning and it just looked better to do it "live". Guess $500,000 even over 40 years, or a reduced lump sum payment, is better than nothing and supposedly he has a chance with her.

Lovedana

Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 10:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, I'm just as confused, Mack! Robert on FLOM 1 really gave me the impression that he would have had to split the money 50/50 if Erin had accepted his proposition. He didn't make it sound voluntary.

As for the check, am I the only one who noted that the check wasn't just "blank"? The amount was blank, but to whom it be paid was already printed. It was printed as "Chad A." His last name wasn't spelled out.

The only explanation I have is two things: Either it was staged or they had checks pre-written for each candidates in case Erin won any of their hearts and wanted to write them a check. I just thought it would seem more sincere if his name were not pre-written (i.e., printed earlier).

Hermione69

Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 10:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i thought chad seemed very uncomfortable with the whole thing and i also wondered if he had either been coached in what to say and how to act or if he really hated the whole fakeness of it and had real doubts about erin over the last part of it. i love happy endings, too, but this did not have a genuine feel to me. i initially liked erin better than trista (of the bachelorette) but by the show's end, i really was feeling like erin was in it for the wrong reasons. imho, i see ryan and trista lasting much longer than erin and chad. i certainly do wish them the best, however, and hope it works out.

Brenda1966

Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 10:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm sure the producers know beforehand who she's going to pick so they can send them down in the order she wants (ie. reject the first guy so he leaves and then profess your love to the second guy and hope he sticks around). They would also have asked her if she was going to share the money and if she said yes, they could plant the check there. I think everyone assumes you'd want to share the money, if it's someone you supposedly love you'd want to share with them.

The winners of the money were not required to share it.

Mack

Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 11:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I totally agree Hermione, I don't see Chad and Erin lasting. Can't put my finger on why....it's not some kind of wish to see these kind of relationships fail.....it just doesn't seem quite right. There's something about Erin that bothers me and I don't know what exactly it is. The problem with these shows, more so than BB, is that they're so edited that it's hard to get a flow of the interaction between people and even more difficult to "read" a particular person. Erin just strikes me as somebody who hasn't quite figured themselves out and what they really want from a relationship.

Dahli

Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 11:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Realfan!! I should just follow you all over the board to get my daily chuckles... lip curlers oh my!

IMHO somebody's staging somthing here because no way would this woman be the choice over a million dollars anywhere, anyhow! I could barely watch the scrinchy faces and poker armed hugs another minute! Can't imagine anyone in their right mind wanting to have that on a daily basis - blech!

Bomom

Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 11:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
A legal question:

If SHE gave Chad $500,000, it would be from HER, not NBC. Unless she made him sign a contract otherwise, wouldn't she then be obligated to fork it over in a lump sum, not in annuities?

Lori

Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 11:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
ahhhhhh good point Bomom!

I am quite sure it was all symbolic anyway...who in their right mind whips out a blank check in the middle of saying "I love you?" LOL!

Mack

Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 11:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I guess but it was a check written against their bank, not hers. I really think it was a "prop" and not a legal document though...by that I mean a check that could really be cashed. Unless specifically discussed in their contracts it could be an interesting question...."OK...you and I are toast but where's my $500,000???" :-)

Alleyoops

Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 12:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok ... This is my first time posting and I must say ... everyone is sooooo negative about Erin and Chad ... is it that we just like to think the worst of people ... maybe they are in love ... maybe they will survive and go on to live a happy life together ... I am from LA and know the TV industry ... trust me when I say their was a contact and whatever she gave him was what she could she could not lie or cheat or steal or decide one thing or another unless it was spelled on in her contract. I am 41 and made a lot silly mistakes when I was 30. I say the world needs to have more hope and faith and believe in the goodness of folks instead of just rushing in to judge the character of young people who are edited by porducers for ratings. Remember wer only we only see a tiny bit of what really transpired between these two.

Jeez louise everyone ... wouldn't it be nice to think positively and hope for love instead of just bashing their intent and thinking the worst of their motives and character.

Just my humble opinion.

Crossfire

Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 12:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Robert wins BB, I wonder if CBS will be so thoughtful as to have a cheque book handy.

Wouldn't that cheese him off.

Babyjaxmom

Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 01:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Alleyoops, THANK YOU! I've been reading all the above posts, thinking, "Man, you people are cynical!" I understand why Erin took the money rather than Rob the first time, cause Rob was a doofus. But you could tell that she and Chad really had feelings for each other cause of the way they both lit up when they saw each other. I told my DH last night that "Chad really loves that girl!" cause of the way he was agonizing over the decision. If he didn't like her, he would have taken the money.

Also the way everyone is belittling Erin for "only" giving him $500k is really unfair. Someone mentioned above that after taxes she would only get about one million (not two), so she really was giving him half. And to me the check appeared to be pre-printed with the amount, but she filled in the name, so it could have been either guy.

When Chad was telling her that she was a great girl, BUT . . . I told my DH that if he took the money instead of her, he'd not only break Erin's heart but mine, too! Guess I'm just a sap who loves a happy ending, but I think they really do care for each other.

Texannie

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 05:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Baby, I think it was the opposite, the check had his name pre printed and she wrote in the amount. I think I remember her commenting that she had never written a check that big.
I don't understand how she could "give" him the $500,000 cause she is receiving her money over the next 25 years in an annunity.

Babyjaxmom

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I saw Erin and Chad on Access Hollywood last night, and she told Billy Bush (the interviewer) that they would be sharing "all the money." Guess that means they're planning on being together for a while. Yay!

Brenda1966

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The check was symbolic to show that she's giving him 25% of the 2 million.

She does not have to take her money in an annuity, she can accept a lump sum, as I'm sure he can as well. The details of how they get their money and the taxes, etc. are not the point! He went for love over money and I, for one, am happy about that!

Do I think they'll last? I think they have as good a chance as any normal couple (and that isn't too good LOL). I agree with HErmi that Trista and Ryan will probably last longer, but that's not necessarily a positive thing because I think Ryan is just a puppy on a leash following Trista around.

And I have to defend Erin on the early show, when Katie asked her what was next and she responded that she was looking into broadcasting, etc. Catie asked "What's next -- are you going to be on FLOM3?" so it was a career oriented question, and not asking what was next love-wise btw her and Chad. Her answer fit the question.

Texannie

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
http://www.realitytvworld.com/index/articles/story.php?s=1700

'For Love Or Money 2' couple Erin and Chad appear on 'Today Show,' 'Regis'

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By AyaK, 09/09/2003

The summer of For Love Or Money has ended, and the media tour has begun for the final couple: Erin Brodie, daughter of football and golf superstar John Brodie, and her selected boyfriend Chad V., whom she chose over Wade in the show's finale on Sept. 8. Today, Erin and Chad appeared together on NBC's Today Show and the syndicated Live with Regis and Kelly.

During the shows, Erin and Chad said they are still together as a couple, which means that they've already outlasted Joe Millionaire's Evan and Zora, who broke up almost immediately after winning $500,000 each. Although they specifically refused to state whether they had any marriage plans on either show, they do at least plan to resume dating -- which they had to suspend after For Love Or Money 2 finished filming. Erin confirmed her move to L.A. and her show-biz career goals, although she said that she wasn't sure just what she wanted to do (but she rejected starring in For Love Or Money 3!).
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Oh, and they confirmed their split of the winnings ... although, taking into account the 40-year payout for the prize money, all Chad received was $244,000 (not the claimed hal-million). Erin retains $732,000 -- her $488,000 present value of winnings from For Love Or Money 1, plus half of the winnings from For Love Or Money 2 -- which means she, at least, made out better than Evan, Zora and For Love Or Money 1 star Rob Campos, who received nothing (except humiliation) after Erin rejected him.

If Erin and Chad do choose to get married, they will become only the second reality dating-show couple to do so, joining The Bachelorette star Trista Rehn and her chosen mate Ryan Sutter, who are scheduled to be married on ABC this season. (The Bachelor 3 star Andrew Firestone and his choice, Jen Schefft, are still together but do not have wedding plans at this time.) Of course, this is also only the second show where a woman has been the one choosing a potential mate. We refuse to speculate on the sociological implications of this, if it turns out to be the case --- we're sure there are plenty of other people who will do that for us.

Realfan

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 01:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here's a post I found at another site detailing the conversation they had with Regis and Kelly, where he supposedly said they were "in love." He didn't exactly say that after all.

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Apparently, Regis and Kelly were talking about Chad and Erin early in the show (I missed that part). Then about 15 minutes into the show, Chad and Erin called in to say they were watching. The connection was really bad, and Regis and Kelly were not listening well but were talking over Chad and Erin. Chad started with "we're still together." Then (and I don't remember exactly how this all happened or who said what [between Regis and Kelly], but this is close enough), Kelly asked if they're in love. Chad said something about "We've got a connection but I don't know if we're ready to say we're in love." or something like that - but the last three words were, in fact, "we're in love." HOWEVER, Regis and Kelly were talking over them and doing their schtick, so they missed the first - and very important - part of Chad's statement. Kelly caught the last part and said, "You're in love?!" Chad said "okay" but his tone was totally, "You're not paying attention to what I'm saying, so I'm not going to make myself look like an ass by yelling out, "no, no! We're not in love!", so okay, I'll just go along with what you said." Erin obviously was not paying attention either, because then she did make her comment about "You're the first ones to get him to say "we're in love" on TV."

Anyway, to summarize, Chad did NOT seem to mean to imply that they are in love, though he did use the words at the end of a sentence. And thus being quoted out of context begins. Poor guy.

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Back to me: I give it three months, tops. There's also a persistent rumor that she's really been seeing one of the show's producers on the side.

Jan

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 01:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
How could they be "in love"? They have barely seen each other since they quit taping. Like all shows of this nature, they were not allowed to date after the taping until the show ended it's run on TV..so for the past three months they haven't even really seen each other.

So, all together, they have had a very few dates where they were alone (well except for the cameraman and soundman etc) and then didn't see each other for 3 months.

I repeat, how could they be "in love". They haven't been given a chance to work on it.

Realbiz

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 01:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i'll give them 45 days... i bet "the producer" can be of great help to her 'broadcasting career', lol.

Brenda1966

Friday, September 12, 2003 - 08:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have a money question:

The $240,000 and the $730,000 that Chad and Erin receive -- I assume that is before taxes?

Also, had Erin chosen to receive the 2 million over the 40 years, what would she get each year? My dad was thinking she'd get $50,000 a year, but that sounds high to me (except that would be before taxes). Does anyone know?

Thanks!