Archive through July 24, 2003
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Archive through July 24, 2003
Marameko | Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 01:04 pm     Tex..........we live and learn, blondie probably knows what is talking about........... Never thought I would see a show like this on tv, let alone prime time.Like I need another reality show to watch.....Thank goodness for VCR's. |
Babyjaxmom | Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 05:28 pm     "Accidentally" caught this show on Saturday night. What a hoot! I loved it. It might be somewhat stereotypical of gay men, but it's so positive and happy, how could it be wrong? Wish they'd come in and give me a makeover! Even though, as a str8 woman, I wouldn't qualify for the title of the show, I would still appreciate the help! |
Maris | Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 07:53 pm     Tonight's show was fantastic. I just love these guys and love their straight guy too. Did not like the girlfriend at all. Catch the show if you can. |
Bracken | Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 08:38 pm     I'm with you Maris! What a beast she was -- could that skirt be any shorter? She wasn't exactly b****y, but she was so loud and pushy. The boys really should have given him a stepic (sp) pen rather than all the fragrance, but I'm going to make a special effort to find that fragrance for a friend who doesn't like the commercial scents for his upcoming birthday -- I always liked the odor of fresh laundry myself, lol. I think the show is getting better, the gay guys seem to more at ease with each other. I wonder if they knew each other before the show or were selected by the producers for their expertise. Carson should be doing standup. Another question comes to mind, could they possibly do an entire makeover like that in one day -- it doesn't seem feasible unless they bring in an entire team to clean, etc. I have never been able to have anything framed or mounted in less than a week. |
Bracken | Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 08:47 pm     I just scrolled up, I too had seen the commercials for NBC. I can't imagine what they would cut from the hour show with Butch. There really isn't a lot of filler in this show -- possibly one of the many reasons I like it. I especially like the suggestions given about the makeover from family and friends. I just hope that the show gets great ratings at NBC, I really would like to see this show succeed. But of course, if and when it does, watch for a dramatic increase in product placements. |
Maris | Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:28 pm     In NY they could get it. You can get anything done same day if you pay enough. The best line of all was when the girl was walking from the train station and one of the guys made a comment that there is a hooker out there missing a pair of shoes. I nearly fell over. I bet that relationship didnt last longer than it took the paint to dry. |
Melfie1222 | Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:47 pm     please ladies... Women are the visual focus in about 10 minutes of this show. Is that all we bash on? I think we should know better. |
Maris | Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 11:35 pm     Melfie this woman was a horror. She was critical, rude and belittling to him. A huge difference from the woman last week. |
Therlin | Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 07:22 am     I don't get bravo, but our local NBC station is showing a 30 minute version (edited from the 60 min show) tomorrow Thursday at 8:30 pm Central Time. Check your local NBC affiliates, it may be a nation-wide thing. |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 12:21 pm     After raving over this I missed the third episode.. grrrr. |
Squaredsc | Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 12:37 pm     me too sea. oh sea, have you seen homefront in the garden on bbc? it comes on at 8 tonite. |
Brenda1966 | Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 12:57 pm     I'm really wondering if the 1/2 hour shown on NBC will be sanitized? I may have to watch just to see if they butcher it up and take out anything that might offend. If they cut the jock strap and "skid mark" comments, then I'll know not to bother with the 1/2 hour version. |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 01:19 pm     I have no interest in the condensed version I just got a DVR but it was dented so I stood firm with the cable co and they are sending out a human being with a new box Friday and I intend for this person to set things up and THEN I can program the sucker to "remember" such things for me!! Anyway.. it seems to repeat Thursday at 10pm.. Not sure about HF in the Garden, Squared.. I certainly check BBC often and watch lots of stuff.. but of course tonight for me is Fame, BB, Making the Band w/P.Diddy and part of Cupid.. |
Squaredsc | Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 03:55 pm     yeah sea, our tv schedules are getting very tight, lol. i think it comes on at 8, the gardner can do some strange things with concrete. im wondering how the condensed version will flow. |
Melfie1222 | Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 06:25 pm     I guess I wasn't paying too much attention to the girlfriend last night... I was just waiting for Carson to keep making me laugh, like when he said to Tom? (the straight guy, cutie by the way) "if at any time today you feel like making out with me, just let me know", and he said it very helpfully and sweetly like he was just offering another bit of fashion advice. Or when he was talking about some of the strange places where Tom kept some of his stuff in the apartment and said something sarcastic about how his banking records would be safe in that wicker hamper. |
Pirate | Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 08:25 pm     I am glad this show is on Bravo. I'm glad it's not a reality show that you have to watch each week. If you miss an episode it doesn't spoil it for you. I don't think a 1/2 version would be worth watching after seeing the hour. These guys are so much fun. My Fab Favorite is the fashion guy. I think it's Carson. I don't have their names down yet. |
Bracken | Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 09:25 pm     Seamonkey, and others who missed the Tuesday show, my guide shows that QEFASG will be shown again on Thursday - 9 pm CST and Friday at 5 pm CST. I think this is the same type of schedule as last week, so am assuming this is a rerun of Tuesday's (3rd) episode. Also Saturday, showing three episodes, assuming this is the three shows broadcast so far from 4-7 pm CST, preceded by one of my all time favorite campy movies "Adventures Of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert." |
Bastable | Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 09:44 pm     Hippyt, thanks, but I do have a sense of humor. After all, I laugh at most of your posts. I just don't like the stereotypes in this show. Half the gay guys I know wouldn't know Prada from parmesean. It's an outdated stereotype that all gay guys are vain, well put-together, and obsessed with cleanliness and appearance. These are some hoary archetypes at play here. I do have a sense of humor but I also do know plenty of gay people, and they are nothing like these hyperbolic peacocks. I have every right to be digusted by the throwback stereotypes that fuel this show. I know better. I wish TV would do a better job of normalizing gay people instead of trying so very hard to define them. And yes, before someone asks, I also don't like the concept behind Boy Meets Boy. I almost liked it, but then I learned that some of the candidates are actually straight. As if they would ever put lesbians among the contestants on The Bachelor. I pity the network executive who thought that show needed "redeeming" by adding a few hetero people in the one game that normalizes gay relationships. |
Hippyt | Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 10:12 pm     Well,I have to agree with you on the Boy meets Boy,to me that is hurtful trash. Bastable,what about it from the straight men point of view? According to this show,straight men have no clue how to dress themselves or even woo a woman. They have nasty apartments,and lots of body hair. If ya wanna talk stereotypes,this is the show.Personally,I find it fun. The reason I find it fun,is everyone on the show seems to be having fun. |
Melfie1222 | Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 10:37 pm     Ok, I'm curious... already Boy meets Boy is hurtful trash? How so? It hasn't even been shown yet. |
Bastable | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 08:17 am     A very good point about the straight men, Hippyt! It takes the point of view of a beer commercial, doesn't it? Apparently, I'm not the only person who feels this way. I ran across this editorial this morning in the Village Voice: What Queer Eye?:Are the Fab Five a Breakthrough or a Stereotype? A few choice quotes: "The makeover is just the surface of this spectacle. Its deeper draw is the relationship between two seemingly antagonistic types. Here, straight guys let down their guard before a squad of swishies and welcome the results...." "Doesn't this resonate with the most primitive view of gay men? Haven't fags always been consigned to the role of body servant? Aren't they supposed to have a doting eye for the straight guy? And as faux women, aren't they expected to be obsessed with style?..." "When the world really changes, there will be a show in which straight men style up a woman too powerful to worry about such things. But who would watch that today? The closest we can get is to serve up the old roles in new drag, and to pretend, as the producers of this show do, that queer means "exceptional." |
Calamity | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 09:19 am     There was a mini-debate about this show on All That Chat! (a theatre message board) a few days ago. I don't know what this says about stereotypes, but that board has many gay posters - some of whom loved the show, some of whom thought it was horribly stereotypical. One guy wrote that all his str8 coworkers thought the show was terrific but his gay friends hated it. *Shrug* I've only seen part of two episodes and while it does play a little to stereotypes, it seems to be in a good natured way. And this is a show about appearances, after all. Kinda hard to dive deep in a shallow pool. P.S. I want that interior designer to come to my house, I agree with Square - the dark-haired guy is cute, and the fashion guy may be a little over-the-top but I think he does a great job at sprucing up the guys' wardrobes while still respecting their natural styles. Oh, and I never watch any of the "relationship/dating" reality shows anyway, but I have to agree that the premise of Boy Meets Boy is terrible. |
Bastable | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 09:45 am     I am not really sure that you can play to stereotypes "in a good-natured way." I mean, there were many who thought Amos and Andy and Stepin Fetchit played to stereotypes "in a good-natured way." |
Squaredsc | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 10:28 am     well my buzz is killed. |
Calamity | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 01:13 pm     Bastable: I'm only familiar with the examples you cited by reputation so it's a little difficult for me to comment on them. But based on what I do know, I'm not sure I'd compare Queer Eye to a radio show such as Amos and Andy, which used white actors to lampoon African-American characters as slow-witted and lazy. Did Queer Eye really strike you as that bigoted? Now if the show was presenting the team as something out of the Jerry Falwell's most extreme and negative image of gay culture, then I'd agree with your comparison. But I didn't see anything like that. Some fella giving hints on how to apply fragrance just doesn't seem that terrible to me nor do I think it will stigmatize gays as vain or mock straight guys as fashion-clueless. (I'm not minimizing concerns about unfair generalizations, it's just that in this case I'd prefer to save my outrage for something a little more serious.) Oh, and by "good natured", I meant the way the team members kidded and teased the makeoveree. It seemed more like a comical sendup. Maybe you saw it as something bad but I kinda thought it was intended to be a joke. People can't joke anymore? I'm guessing this is probably something we'll never agree on so it's probably best for me to drop the subject now. Squaredsc: I hope you (or any one else, for that matter) was not put off by what I wrote. |
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