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Lizajane

Monday, August 25, 2003 - 05:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My thoughts:

Audrey - I liked her voice, but again the language thing is hurting her, she's emphasizing the wrong words

Ryan - Good but not great

Jenny - I don't know why but she's growing on me, didn't think this was that bad actually

Gary - boring, didn't really listen

Billy - AWESOME, AWESOME, AWESOME. For once I agree with Zach.

Jan

Monday, August 25, 2003 - 05:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i'm sending my toya votes Billy's way this week. A surprise for me but I liked him best of all of them. I liked Ryan 2nd, jenny third and then gary and last Audrey..a surprise to me to feel this way about it all.

Tweety

Monday, August 25, 2003 - 06:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the major problem with tonight's show was song selection. I'm wondering if Elton John put limitations on what they could perform.

That being said, Jenny performed one of the best known songs - Rocket Man. She enunciated the words so well, I actually heard lyrics I never knew were in the song! I guess straight brown is OK, but I miss her red wavey hair.

I wish Billy would stop flapping, but thought his performance was probably truest to Elton John.

I think Audrey and Gary will be bottom two after tonight.

Jake's comments about voting patterns were interesting. Notice how the last of the GTA competitors was voted out last week (maybe everyone was heeding the pleas to conserve energy after the blackout and therefore didn't watch the show and vote?) I don't see how Atlantic Canada can continue to support two Idols. I think Jenny is gaining support in other parts of Canada, whereas Gary's support might be NS based (Llkoolaid, I would be interested in your thoughts on this). And, as someone else mentioned, I'm not sure how widely watched this show is in Quebec.

Dognutbc

Monday, August 25, 2003 - 09:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that Billy "flaps" because he is usually playing a guitar when he sings; probably doesn't know what to do with his hands.
I'm not loving anyone, but Billy and Jenny are my favorites of the bunch. Don't enjoy Ryan at all, nor Gary, although they seem decent guys.

Scorpiomoon

Monday, August 25, 2003 - 11:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Man, you guys are much kinder and much more forgiving than I am.

So whose out tonight?

I'll close my eyes and throw a dart and say: Gary.

Llkoolaid

Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 04:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jan, the reason I think Toya votes will go to Gary is they both have that kind of style where they run their words out, I forget what you call it, DJgirl told us before when AI was on. They both have soul.

I love Gary, he may not ennunciate very well but I think he is good.

Last night I think he did the best.
If I rated them last night they would be:
Gary - made the song his own, loved it
Jenny - picked very hard song, and although it is totally not her style she did it well
Audrey- pretty voice but needs some power
Billy/Ryan- both are like clones of whoever they are doing, all their songs sound the same to me.
If Billy or Ryan stay over Gary or Jenny I think I will be done with the show, Gary and Jenny are the only ones I want to hear sing now that my favorites are all gone.

Llkoolaid

Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 05:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry Tweety didn't read your post, was replying to another one before I read through the thread. This response is in no way directed at you but is just venting from going to the CTV Candian Idol site. I should know better than to stray from the safety of TVCH

I think there is regional voting for each contestant by some people but for the most part I think we are basing our votes on talent, actually...

The regional voting thing is annoying to me simply because people are saying that is what is holding Jenny and Gary in. I go on the official website for the show and that is all you hear. Gary is only there because everyone in Nova Scotia votes for him. Jenny is only there because all the people from NF have nothing to do and spend hours voting for her.
Lets do the math(god I need Bob2112 now).

There are about 30 million people in Canada, voting is usually stated to be at less than 1 1/2 million so that is about 1/20 or .05 percent of the population voting if everyone only voted once.

NewFoundland has approx 1/2 million people, which would give Jenny 20,500 votes if everyone that voted in NewFoundland voted for Jenny.

Nova Scotia has 3/4 of million people, which would give Gary 31,ooo votes if everyone that voted in Nova Scotia voted for Gary.

That is a little over 50 thousand votes for 2 people. That leaves over 1,450,000 votes between Audrey, Billy and Ryan.

Now consider that Gary has only been on the bottom 3 once and Jenny has never been there, what are the possibilities that either of them are staying because of their home provinces. I say close to zero. They have to be picking up a lot of support accross Canada.

Also consider that Toronto alone(don't even count all the other surrounding cities) has over 4 1/2 million people and then explain if there is regional in a great extent why Toya left. And why do we bother, just give the title to Ryan.

Anyway, although I think that there would be some fanatics that would load the phone lines voting for their hometown guys, I don't think that this method would benefit anyone other than those from a province with major population. I don't believe there are that many adults who would sit by the phone and vote for 2 hours for anyone unless they were family, especially now that the show is winding down and we are getting more complacent. I think maybe young people might do this, it is summer time and they have nothing to do, adults still have to work.(that explains Billy lol) Other than the most devoted fans 2 hrs of sleep is not worth giving up to stay up and vote because someone is from your province.

It just doesn't add up to me and I find it insulting to the Maritime singers. It always seems that we in the Maritimes are considered less by the rest of Canada and when we achieve something there is never congratulations , you did a great job, it is always, oh big deal that only happened because..............

So dislike Jenny and dislike Gary as much as you like, they certainly were not my favorites when this competition began but please consider that they are in the top 5 because a lot of people accross Canada like and appreciate what they do.

Tweety, you asked for my thoughts on this, I bet you didn't expect it to be my pet peeve of this show. Sorry about the rant.

Jasper

Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 06:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Last night....I really enjoyed Billy's performance and agree with dognut, I think he is used to performing with a guitar in hand. And I think you are right Jan, God Bless the Child was the song that we first saw Jenny sing. She really looked great last night.

And I still don't like Gary's singing, personally for me it sounds like one long mumble. I said to my husband he must sound totally different in the venue for the judges to think he is so wonderful.

I think Audrey and Gary will end up the bottom two this week.

Tweety

Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 06:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It's OK Llkollaid, I understand your frustration. I think it's fantastic that two singers from Atlantic Canada are in the final five! I agree the math doesn't work for regional voting only unless viewers in Toronto are too apathetic to vote . . .

Djgirl5235

Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 07:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm here - and I'm kind of lackluster in enjoying CI...

Here's my rundown of the performances last night:

Billy - when he holds himself back he sounds wonderful - he has a very crisp voice, and can do a lot when he refrains from screaming. I really think that the vocal coach has spoken to him after last week's growl through CCR's "Have You Ever Seen the Rain" because he will destroy his vocal chords that way - it's all throat singing, nothing to do with the diaphragm and will kill your voice quicker than acid! Last night was probably the best I've heard from him yet.

Ryan - I can understand why a lot of people don't think he's great, however, from a performance perspective, he performs with passion, and gets me involved in all of his performances. I hated his rendition of "One" when he did it during the semi's, and I wasn't too keen on his performance last night, but I can see him getting to the final two. He sings with clarity, and from the diaphragm, and that will help him in the long run.

Audrey - She is very limited for song choice since she does have problems with the language, and in a fast song, enunciation and form trip her up. She does well during slow performances since she has a chance to sustain notes, and clearly form her words, but you can't just be a ballad singer, and they'll never put out a french album for the CI... sad but true.

Jenny - Is the most talented of all the finalists (including Toya). She has a clear, crisp, clean sound, and is very unique. If you don't watch her, she's absolutely fantastic, and is a storyteller. That being said, she needs to straighten her posture, and you would notice an even bigger performance. She strikes me as very shy, and seems to be in her own world when she's performing, but she did a great job with Rocket Man last night. She has a great range, and that bottom range of hers rocks!

Gary - Gary's enunciation, and vocal runs DRIVE ME CRAZY!!!! That's the years of training that I have had that make it hard for me to appreciate his singing. The acoustics in the hall they're performing in must be excellent, because I really don't see what the judges see. His vocal gymnastics prevent us from knowing if he can actually sustain a note, and I get tired of people saying that he made the song his own by jumping from note to note all the time instead of just performing a clean performance. I wouldn't mind seeing him go, and he has been in the bottom a few times already, but we'll see tonight...

That's just my opinion folks, take from it what you will...

Llkoolaid

Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 07:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think I might have my percentages wrong, it could be .5 percent which still would be a significantly low number. Where is Bob, he is so good at this stuff.

Lets change the subject and pick who you like based on personality or who you can relate to most.

I relate from most to least:

Audrey-sweet girl, I have daughters that age
Gary-just love the happiness in him
Ryan- Seems ok to me, like the way he takes critism
Jenny-Nice but too coo-coo for me
Billy- seems arrogant, didn't like his attitude when he was voted bottom 3 and his clone brother is annoying as can be.

My favorites are gone so I am sulking.

Llkoolaid

Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 07:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dj, I for one appreciate your input. It is nice to hear from someone who knows what they are talking about. You base your opinions on pure talent and it helps me to see what others are seeing in a performer or what others don't like.

Having absolutely no musical talent I base mine on how the performance makes me feel and what I feel for the performer.

Putting the 2 together I try to come up with my opinions. That is why I now am enjoying Jenny, I finally get it about her and am looking forward to hearing her sing. Having no musical talent may be why I can excuse Gary's ennunciation. I know how important it is because my daughters take voice but to me he just makes me feel good. I like his happy attitude. I like Audrey's sweetness and her pretty voice.

I base my dislike of Ryan and Billy on two things. One I don't like their sounds. It just doesn't make me feel good. Their personalities bug me too. Ryan appears to me like a geek with an attitude who is trying to be too cool and Billy gives me the feeling that he thinks people are nuts if they don't vote for him and he is trying too hard to be the bad boy.

My point is I think we all like or dislike them for differant reasons. I vote for mainly who I want to hear again. I always look forward to your comments because they help me with the technical side of things, the emotional I don myself. That's how I do my voting. I listen to the judges except for Sass( she is nice to them all). I listen for the judges critisms and then how I feel and put it together to come up with who to vote for. I don't always vote for the same person, I have even voted for Billy who is now tied for last with Ryan on my list. I want Karen-Lee back.

Djgirl5235

Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 07:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks LL - the whole reason I haven't really been posting anything is that I just felt so lackluster about all of them.

I was not surprised to see Toya go last week simply because as soon as Zach said to her that she was a D-I-V-A, I turned to my bf and said "Well, say goodbye to Toya because Zach just did her in!". We Canucks are a fussy country, and really don't go for divas.

As for the rest of them, none of them has made me sit up and take notice like Clay or Ruben did last year, and Kelly the year before that. All three of them made me sit up in my chair and watch, whereas none of these kids has done that - except Jenny when she auditioned because I couldn't figure out what the judges were going on and on about... (Holy run on sentence, sorry about that!). I haven't voted in the past couple of weeks, only because none of them have done it for me.

Now, the only reason that I like Ryan & Billy is that they sing the music that I listen to the most - I'm an alternative rock sort of girl, and I like their voices - Billy's better when he doesn't growl. I like Jenny because she's the type that I sing along with... you know what I mean?

Cinnamongirl

Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 08:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I want Karen-Lee back too! :)

but Billy & Gary are my favs right now. Billy was absolutely perfect last night. I know I'm in a minority here, but I think Jenny has to go. She is in a totally different league than the rest, not my idea of a Canadian Idol, just like Josh from American Idol was too country, Jenny is too jazzy/folksy.

Llkoolaid

Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 08:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
On a whole I love this show. I am glad that we have CI and glad we get to discuss it and so glad that we keep it nice and respect each others opinions. I wonder what the Americans at TVCH would think of our talent. I am sure they would be impressed by our top 31,(I can't leave Kevin out) and I am sure they would not understand how we vote. It is kinda nice to have something just for us here.

Rissa

Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 08:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Morning all. Well, I spent the night alternating btn Billy and Ryan votes, with an emphasis on Billy. I have always liked him, though not as a winner... but every week he gets stronger IMO and now I am a complete fan. Ryan has had IT from day one, has the talent and knows what to do with it.

Jenny {sigh}. Well, she is definately looking awesome, in fact she is darn-right pretty until she sings. LOL Sorry but her facial expressions are just freaky and her singing is TOO unique for me to enjoy. She totally owned last week's song but .... can't put my finger on the right word... my hubby says 'arthouse'. She seems perfect for a smoke-filled Ratinskeller but that's all I can give her.

Audrey... started out strong but now I am not sure. Zack commented that (was it Zack?) that she has a very small range that she does great in. I am starting to agree... as much as I like her, she is good but not great.

Gary. Sorry guy, you had one good week but seem completely out of your depth all other weeks. Last week was actually painfull, this week... just tolerable.

JHMO, LOL. Anyway... found this and thought you guys might get a laugh out of it. I have pretty much agreed with this person's picks from week 1, which considering he is IN the theatre listening live is pretty amazing. :)

And still there are five

<<<<By MIKE ROSS -- Edmonton Sun
Canadian Idol has become a horse race where a sniper keeps shooting the horse in the lead. Karen Lee Batten all the way! Look at her go! BLAM! Thump. Well, she's outta there. OK, then, it's Toya Alexis leaping deftly over the body of her fallen comrade, coming around on the outside, ahead by six lengths into the clubhouse turn, it's Toya Alexis! She can't lose! KABLAM! Thump. Well, hell. Now what? The rest of them are neck and neck. It's going to be a tough shot. <<<<<<

Spitfire

Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 11:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I missed the first two (Audrey and Ryan I believe) last night night so can't form an opinion on the whole group.

All I wanted to say is that for me buying a CD of any of these performers it would be Jenny. I like all types of music but am not a professional and don't really know what other people look for. What I look for is something a little different in sound and flavour. All the other performers seem to me to be redundant of what we already have out there. I enjoy listening to all of them but Jenny has my $20.00.

JMO

Tatyana

Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 05:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm very very sad Jenny is gone :( I think she is an awesome talent and when she performs the jazz-type songs, no one can touch her. I feel this exposure is going to help her and I can see her putting out an album eventually. ;)

tina

Llkoolaid

Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 05:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Did anyone expect that. This show is just like BB, you have to expect the unexpected.

Guess it kind of blows the "people of in the east stay up and vote all night" theory out of the water.

Seems to be a voting pattern here, you do real good one week and are safe, you do good the next week and bottom 3 and out.
You suck and are bottom 3 but manage to stay, next week it doesn't matter what you do your safe.

If I were Billy I would be very afraid, he has the furthest time not being in the bottom, Ryan is probably safe next week. Or it could be Gary going next week, he is the only one left who hasn't been bottom 2.

I really thought it would be Gary and Audrey, not because of their performances because I really like them but because of all the negative comments about them on the CTV board.

Tatyana

Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 05:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Spitfire, I'm with you, out of all of them Jenny would have my money also. I'd buy her CD in a minute, I like something a little more original and different in music than the same type of thing over and over.

Jan

Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 05:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
well I was very surprised. I never figured that Jenny and Ryan would be bottom two and that Jenny would be gone. What about the rest of you?

Flamingo

Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 06:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am very happy Jenny is gone. She had one fairly good performance and 3 painfully bad ones (with last night definitely the worst).

She deserved to go.

Kellirippa

Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 06:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
well, that just sucks... I understood why Jenny stayed so long, she was quirky and had a certain charisma. Gary to me is a total mystery. Sorry, but I just don't hear the same thing you Garry fans are hearing...maybe there's something wrong with my TV or something... If Zack doesn't hurry up and start throwing his support behind this Garry kid, I'm afraid he'll win the whole damn thing!

Scorpiomoon

Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 06:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Call me crazy, but Jenny looked upset at the end of the show--when all the finalists came on stage and Toya was hugging her. It kind of surprised me because I would have thought Jenny would be nonchalant about the whole thing.

And couldn't Sass get off her big butt and stand up with everyone else when Jenny was singing? What's up with that?

Llkoolaid

Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 06:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Awe, Kelli be gentle with Gary. You are right about Zack, he is the kiss of death and guess who his favorite is "Billy" hahahahahahahahahahahaha

Just kidding.
I like Billy's voice, his stage presence is annoying but most of all the biggest turn off for me about Billy is that they keep showing his obnoxious brother doing that finger thing with his tongue stuck out. (Like, grow up ahole.) Billy on the other hand has talent, and I don't see why the same people that like Billy like Ryan. Billy is cool, Ryan is cool-wannabe.

Seriously I finally understood what people saw in Jenny and there she is, poof, gone. Now if I could only understand the Ryan appeal, maybe he would like just poof, be gone.

I will be happy with Gary, Audrey and Billy (if someone gets rid of his brother) win CI.

I didn't think that Jenny would make a good CI because she is so differant. Not that she isn't good but a lot of people just don't get her. This forum just isn't her thing.

Djgirl , I am looking forward to your comments on the voting, I bet you are shocked at the results.

Does anyone know the theme for next week?