Archive through June 04, 2003
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Archive through June 04, 2003
Jedisan | Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 09:54 am     Did anyone watch the "get to know them" episode last night? So far, i like the girls. Adam is going to get in some TROUBLE. He is too mouthy (admittedly), and too sensitive to any criticism (again,admittedly). The house is awesome (as always) I like that these kids are a bit older than the last few series. Maybe, just maybe, we will see some intelligent/mature thoughts from this batch. (a girl can dream...)but i doubt it. i will be tuning in next week. Squared, does anyone yet know who Adam is related to? I swear he looks like a younger, darker skinned version of Babba-Boey from the Howard Stern show! |
Sweetbabygirl | Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 10:33 am     Jedi, IMO Adam looks like Sly from Sly and The Family Stone....or Al Green. Dang, I wish we could find out who his father is!! |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 11:06 am     I saw the intro show last night and so far it looks like Adam and Ace can be real jerks. Adam, in the clips shown, seems to have some excess of hormones going (as in feeling the need to dry hump the pool table as just one example). Not sure about Chris (the clips were interspersed with lots of clips from past shows and nattering by Steve and Arissa from Las Vegas). We have one girl with huge implants, which are featured up front in the obligatory hottub scenes shown so far. They show them being sent to French class, so at least there is an attempt to learn something this year!! |
Froggiegirl621 | Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 11:49 am     The girl with huge implants is Christina, and I have a feeling she'll be the one we'll all be hating by the time this season is over...she was already bugging the crap out of me last night, and it was just the "meet the cast" show! |
Guinevere | Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 03:21 pm     I actually like the girls (and Simon) okay from what I've seen. Chris is iffy, and Ace and Adam seem like jerks. First impressions can change quickly, though. |
Theowl | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 12:03 pm     6 HOURS AND 56 MINUTES!!! HOOO HOOOO!!!! ALMOST forgot about this, what with all the other exciting shows on!! NOT!! I'm really looking forward to this bunch. HAS to be better than the last "kids".  |
Jedisan | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 12:37 pm     Right with ya Owl.... |
Csnog | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 06:24 pm     Paris unruffled by invasion, MTV style By Nancy Tartaglione , Special to The Times PARIS -- Filming anything in Paris can be a formidable task. The authorizations, the kilometers of red tape, the often aloof civil servants and the innumerable mayoral signatures required typically are infuriating. Now try filming an unscripted American TV show about a group of kids, with no set shooting schedule or locations, during a time when Franco-American relations are strained to the maximum and what do you get? An educational, cultural, Zen-like experience, bien sûr. The 13th installment of MTV's hit series "The Real World," set this time in Paris and premiering this week, ended up an enriching and calming time for pretty much all those involved. Go figure. About the only real challenge to emerge during the 18-week shoot was getting a household of fast-food consumers to adjust to the two-hour French lunch, according to producer Tracy Chaplin, who has been with the show since season No. 8 and who also produced last year's "The Real World: Las Vegas." MTV had considered Paris as a location for several years, and decided this finally was the year for the second venture outside the States; "Real World" went to London for season 4. "After the excess of Vegas, we wanted to contrast that by coming to culture. Vegas was extreme and we wanted to sort of ground the show again," Chaplin said. The show, for those unfamiliar, was a pioneer of unscripted, so-called "reality" television, the forerunner to all of the current shows purporting to capture the drama of real people in unusual circumstances. A group of American college-age kids is cast to live together for several months and is filmed 24 hours a day wherever the group members are. Contrary to shows such as "Big Brother," the cast is not confined to its house and there is no prize money at the end. "The Real World" is not a competition, more of an intimate look at a cross-section of today's youth. The house Chaplin chose for this season is set in one of the most beautiful suburbs of Paris, called Le Vesinet, where a Sunday afternoon is punctuated by lazy silence and the sight of families out pushing strollers and walking dogs. One would think then that a bunch of twentysomething Americans being followed around 24 hours a day by a camera crew could have wreaked havoc in the tranquil village. Apparently not. Said an employee at the mayor's office in Le Vesinet, "We are very used to local film shoots. The only thing that was a bit out of the ordinary was that it had this American aspect, but for us it's a bit routine." That may be, but there's history behind Chaplin's explanation that "we really try to keep a low profile for two reasons: to protect the integrity of the show and for safety's sake." He points out that when news got out that the show was filming in Chicago in 2001, rocks were hurled at the house and drunken kids took to ringing the doorbell in the middle of the night, which was "very disruptive to the process." Sitting in his office in the exquisite three-story manor house whose grounds also include a rose garden and stables and which is currently being refitted to its pre-"Real World" state, Chaplin noted, "It's been a blessing to be here. It's like the early seasons where we had a lot more anonymity." Despite the big dumpster outside the gates adorned with signs advertising this past weekend's yard sale -- the production is flogging everything from couches to sheets to batteries used by the cast and crew -- passersby seem oblivious to what went on for months at the house. A young, hip-looking girl who lives next door says, "I thought they were shooting a movie. I didn't notice anything particular about them and nobody really talked about it." Because "The Real World" doesn't allow the cast to have music or television, noise levels were kept to a minimum. Chaplin admits there was some excessive drinking but says, "It was a different party style, not like the American college bar scene. Things are a little more refined here." And they weren't at the house all the time. As a way to get them to bond, and to explore Paris, cast members were each given a job with Frommer's travel guides as writers. The production rented out an office for the cast members in Paris's 9th district where they could write and meet up during the day. Le Vesinet is a good half-hour train ride from Paris and so it made sense to have another base in the city center. The cast, which includes everyone from a 19-year-old (female) virgin to a Georgia party boy, spoke no French prior to the experience. Chaplin noted that the pace of the show was entirely different from the U.S.-set seasons because of the more laid-back approach to life in Europe. "We're used to everything being so quick. In the States, the kids eat at McDonald's, which only takes 15 minutes, and here lunch means two hours." While the show is set up so that the cast has limited distractions, like television, the state of the world dictated that rules bend a bit. "We were outfitting the house when the tide started to change," Chaplin explained, referring to the diplomatic squabbling that preceded the war in Iraq. "But we felt that this was the safest place to be." Indeed, the sentiment of numerous expatriates in France during the recent war was that if France was staying out of the war, then terrorism would stay out of France. Chaplin, who went to France last August for preproduction, did note that there was "implied pressure from home because parents would call and this would lead the cast to question us." Although there is rarely any contact between the producer and the cast, Chaplin said he took some of the kids' phone calls to reassure them and contingency plans were put into place in the event of any kind of attack. The cast was also allowed to watch one of President Bush's address to the nation on videotape. But, Chaplin said, laughing, "They're just kids, after all. They were more concerned about what was happening on Friday night." And what about those famously snooty Parisians? Chaplin notes that during preproduction the crew -- about 60% of which was French -- went to every shop in the neighborhood to introduce itself and explain what to expect. At the local bakery, a woman says, "They were very discreet. We saw the cameramen more often than the kids because they were real gourmands and loved our chocolate! The young people were more attuned to what was going on but it was really just another page out of life. They did their thing and then they left." Chaplin maintains that not once did a cast or crew member encounter any anti-American sentiment, "Not at all. I don't understand this whole freedom fries, freedom toast thing. We have jerky kids in the States who are mean to us, which is worse than anything we saw in France." |
Theowl | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 06:29 pm     30 MINUTES!!! HOOO HOOOO!!!!  |
Cjr | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 07:19 pm     Sounds like it may have more than just sex and drinking this year. I hope so. I can't wait to see how they act in a foreign city. Sounds like they I still have 2 hours and 45 minutes to wait! |
Squaredsc | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 07:24 pm     well i just turned to it, missed the first 25 mins. ok one guy has a great body from the neck down. adam looks like a young smokey robinson and needs a hair cut. |
Squaredsc | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 07:46 pm     i love the outside of the house and those windows are gorgeous. and why do these people always want to hook up with each other? aren't there other people in paris? |
Willwillbee | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 07:47 pm     Did I hear Adam say his father was in the Commodores? |
Theowl | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 08:01 pm     WWB, he did say that!! I think he looks like Lionel Richie, but I don't know if that is his father. Kinda a boring first episode. I'm sure it'll pick up after a while. What the SPAIN is up with Adam???? Man, if he's this frustrated on the first day (?), I wouldn't want to be near him after a week!!!!  |
Grooch | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 08:08 pm     He looks like Baba Booey from Howard Stern. |
Bracken | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 08:54 pm     Me thinks Tracy Chaplin has been in France too long. The comment from the article posted above states: "They're just kids after all, they were more concerned with what was happening on Friday night." It's no wonder that the Real World chooses particular vapid and self-centered individuals for their casts. While "kids" the same age have been at war and dying in Iran, the producer dismisses current events as inconsequential. That said, I'll probably watch it more for the scenery than the cast unless they are as heinous as those in Las Vegas; and from the posts here, it certainly appears they have at least one bona-fide jerk. |
Cliotheleo | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 09:28 pm     Well, I think this has to be, for me, the sexiest Real World cast to date. Three guys with sexy accents (yes I'm counting Simon) and another guy who is pretty hot, despite his apparent personality issues. But WHEN! WHEN! WHEN! will my sisters learn that it is NOT attractive to throw yourself at a guy!!! Adam was right, we don't HAVE to beg a guy to sleep with us, so why chase after anyone? I don't get it. |
Seamonkey | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 09:38 pm     Starts here in 20 min.. Commodores link http://www.alamhof.org/commodor.htm COMMODORES Tuskegee, Alabama Original Members: Thomas McClary, Guitar Lionel Richie, Saxophone Milan Williams, Keyboards Walter Orange, Drums William King, Trumpet Ronald LaPread, Bass Other Members: J.D. Nicholas T he original members of the Commodores met as freshmen at Tuskegee Institute and began the group that grew from a hit regional act to a worldwide phenomenon. They signed with Motown Records in 1971 and toured, opening for the Jackson Five. Their first big hit was an instrumental called "Machine Gun", and they followed with a string of 22 gold records, six platinum, two double platinum and three triple platinum albums, selling close to 40 million records. Their first recordings for the label were produced in Muscle Shoals by Terry Woodford and Clayton Ivey. The group scored with hits such as "I Feel Sanctified", "Slippery When Wet", "Fancy Dancer", "Just To Be Close To You", "Sweet Love", "Easy", "Three Times A Lady", "Sail On" and "Still". The hit recordings included four Top Five albums, "Commodores", "Commodores Live", "Natural High", and "Midnight Magic". In 1982 Richie left to pursue a solo career, and since then McClary and LaPread have also left the group. J.D. Nicholas was added to the band and following the hit album "Nightshift", the group left Motown Records and moved to Polygram Records where they released the album "Rock Solid". |
Seamonkey | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 09:47 pm     Aha.. haven't found a last name for Adam, but his nickname is "Kinger" which sort of makes me suspect his dad might be William King, the trumpet man? |
Seamonkey | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 09:53 pm     William A. King.. his nickname is WAK (his initials) William A. King Trumpet & vocals Nickname: "Wak" Born: January 30 (Capricorn) Alabamian William King originally wanted to be a drummer, but found that all the drum-kits were occupied in his school and was forced to choose between clarinet and trumpet. He took the trumpet. Lionel Richie and Thomas McClary drafted William King from The Tuskegee Institute's marching band and together with three other guys, they became known as The Mystics. After Milan Williams was recruited from rivaling school-band The Jays, a new name was needed to celebrate the event. William King was blindfolded and selected the word "commodore" at random from a dictionary. In 1969, this first edition of The Commodores went to New York and cut a single for Atlantic Records called "Keep On Dancing". William was also a skilled dancer and served as The Commodores' choreographer. Among the tracks William King wrote are "Thumpin' Music", "Funky Situation", "Young Girls Are My Weakness" (with Ronald LaPread), "Time" (with Thomas McClary) "I Feel Sanctified" (with the group and Jeffrey Bowen), "You Don't Know That I Know", "Let's Get Started", "Brick House", "Too Hot Ta Trot" (with the group), "Fire Girl" (with Darrell Jones and David Cochrane from the Mean Machine), "You're Special","Mighty Spirit" (with Harold Hudson from the Mean Machine) and "Lady (You Bring Me Up)" (with Shirley King and Harold Hudson). After Lionel Richie had departed from The Commodores (and had taken "their" producer James Anthony Carmichael with him) The Commodores began to produce themselves. For their first Richie-less LP "13" in 1983, William produced and co-wrote "I'm In Love" and "Turn Off The Lights" (written with Harold Hudson and William's wife, Shirley). Together with Dennis Lambert, William produced "I Keep Running" (written with Shirley King and Harold Hudson) on the "Nightshift" LP. In 1986, William and James Anthony Carmichael produced "Talk To Me" (written by William with Shirley King and Harold Hudson). Together with Walter Orange and Tony Prendatt, Walter produced "So Nice" and also co-wrote and produced "Thank You" (written with Shirley King and Harold Hudson). Today, William King and Walter Orange are the only members left in the Commodores from the original line-up. http://w1.837.telia.com/~u83704141/commodores/william.html There's a picture there and I must say there's a resemblance!! |
Curious1 | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 10:12 pm     ok so I missed the "meet the cast" show but I did see the first episode tonite. I was wondering why everyone thought Ace was going to be a jerk? am I just not seeing something? |
Watching2 | Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 11:58 pm     Same here Curious. He seemed like a decent guy to me in the first episode. |
Muse | Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 12:25 am     I really enjoyed the first episode. Everyone except Adam seems fairly likable. Of course that will no doubt change in the next episode or two, but hey -- good start. It's also a nice change of pace to have the show outside of the U.S. again. |
Squaredsc | Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 06:43 am     i think adam looks more like lionel than william but who knows. |
Mware | Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 06:58 am     I was really disturbed by the way Adam had to pull Ace into his confrontation with Leah by bringing up her crush on him. If Leah had wanted that to be known in that detail, she would have told Ace herself. He was insensitive in confronting her at all, but to do so in front of Ace and using her feelings for him as an example was cruel to both Leah and to Ace. |
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