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Fluffybbw

Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 04:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I loved when Carson said "and the winner is Barbra Streisand" and then he jumped up and down!

Seamonkey

Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 04:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Those guys has such a GOOD time :) Carson was blown away when Madonna appeared too.

Fluffybbw

Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 07:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I loved tonight's show, Josh was such a nice guy and I think they were right when they said at the end of the show, he will keep on learning! The dance lesson was my favorite part of the show. I laughed so hard!

Kady

Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 08:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I didn't forget tonight. Yea me!!! I loved the paint job Thom did on his walls. The fab 5 never fails to give me good laugh. This dude had some great things in his apartment for them to crack on too. He was so pleased to see they didn't get rid of his stuff...just made it all look better. I loved that blue shirt on him, I wish he had worn it to go dancing in.

Caroline

Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 10:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cracks me up! The dozen cans of seafood; the 'corrective' shoes that Carson pointed out were the size of the car they arrived in; the gas mask reqired to move the jock strap; the antics by the onlooking Fab at the dance lesson...

Josh is adorable -- love his new haircut.

Btw, did I see correctly that all next week Bravo is airing 'Reality of Reality' which seems to cover folks from Survior, Big Brother, Fear Factor, etc.?

Luvtrash

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 01:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That's what they said, Caroline. Supposed to be all week. I hope they are really free to talk.
It would be interesting to hear some of the background stuff. I saw somewhere that the presenting of the roses on Bachelor usually took all night to film. I would assume that may be the same on Love or Money. Can you imagine standing around trying to look good--and interested--all that time?

Fruitbat

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 03:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I missed when Reality of Reality would air. Did you catch the time and is it every night? This could be a good show or miss the boat. These shows must have some kind of a gag order on the contestants so as not to destroy the "mystique".

Theo

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 04:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Show air sept 8-12 at 9pm est. As for contracts the only one I am sure about is Will Kirby from Big Brother the contracts from BB2 were only for 2 years so Wills was up this year. BB3 and BB4 all signed 3 year contracts and you can count on them going to a five year contract soon.

Squaredsc

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 08:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
well this wasn't one of my fav's. didn't like the haircut and the shaving wasn't close enough. but he was a kool guy and he tried with the dancing but it was too funny.

Madelane

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 09:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the Fab Five and I were expecting the girlfriend to be this amazingly hip dancer. I don't know about you guys, but I was a little disappointed with their nightclub action. The girls didn't really dress up for a club, and nobody was really dancing. Even the girlfriend didn't have rhythm. It was strange, her just bouncing there.

Maybe that's why the Fab Five didn't care too much that their straight guy didn't learn too many dancing moves.

The apartment looked amazing, as usual. LOVED it.

Seamonkey

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 08:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What I learned from this episode: That they actually make electic shavers that let guys MAINTAIN that semi stubble.. and I suppose, if a guy insists on that "look" they can actually "groom" it sort of..

Hippyt

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 11:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think this guy just needed toooooooo much help. Five gay guys can do amazing stuff,but they can't work miracles!

Ladytex

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nope, this one wasn't one of my favorites ...

Sanfranjoshfan

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 12:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
http://www.nypost.com/gossip/39747.htm

September 5, 2003 -- REP. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) doesn't like "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy," but his boyfriend does. Frank, the only openly gay member of Congress, ran in 1976 with the slogan, "Neatness Isn't Everything." But he finds "Queer Eye" offensive. "It doesn't have to do with effeminacy, it has to do with superficiality," Frank told The New York Observer. "The notion that gay men have a superior fashion sense is not true, and it's damaging . . . It's perfectly possible to enjoy that show and say, 'Look at those clever homosexuals - what they do with hair!' And not support gays at all." But Frank's friend, Sergio Pombo, told The Hill he likes the makeover show. "Barney has a right to his own opinion," said Pombo, who admitted the chronically disheveled lawmaker sometimes needs style tips. "He's not a slob. Fashion just isn't his main interest. But when I think he needs some advice, I give it to him."

Squaredsc

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 12:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
im not sure if it was mentioned here but the original culture guy is suing the show.

Texannie

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 01:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I noticed on one show there was a different culture guy and had wondered..didn't care for him, love Jai!

Gigglesalot

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 01:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I noticed there was a different culture guy - and I agree Texannie, I love Jai too! Squaredsc, why is he suing the show?

Brenda1966

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 03:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I love Jai too -- the first culture guy was like a non-entity. He's basically suing for lost wages -- the money he would have made if he was on the show for the full season, rather than just 2 episodes.

Hmmm... so if I get fired for poor performance do I get to sue too?

Squaredsc

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 06:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
here is the link to the article.

article

here is a a little bit from the article....


September 3, 2003 -- BLAIR Boone, one of the original "Fab Five" makeover mavens on "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy," is suing the show's producers for breach-of-contract.
Boone, who's asking for $105,000 in damages from Queer Eye LLC, was dumped after only two episodes of Bravo's hit summer show and replaced by Jai Rodriguez.

"The producers said that NBC and Bravo had to let me go, that it basically had to do with the fact that the show had a different idea with what they wanted to do with the 'culture guy,' " said Boone, who quit his fulltime job as an ad manager/writer at Metrosource Magazine to join "Queer Eye."

Fans of the show might remember seeing Boone in the second of two "Queer Eye" episodes that debuted July 15 on Bravo, and then again in the episode that aired the following week.

Then, just like that, Boone disappeared and was replaced by Rodriguez who, along with Carson Kressley, Thom Filicia, Ted Allen and Kyan Douglas, has found fame and fortune - including a $1 million "Fab Five" book deal.

"When I see the million-dollar book deal, I have to clench my teeth - that's what I expected to see and [to] be a part of," said Boone, who was paid $6,000 for his two episodes.

Boone's attorney, Ariel Berschadsky, says the show offered "a little bit" of money for Boone to "go away" before he filed suit in U.S. District Court.

Squaredsc

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 06:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i like jai better too.

Texannie

Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 08:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
http://www.africana.com/articles/daily/mtv20030827queeri.asp


Really great article from a guy who was in the original pilot..thought this last part was particularly interesting.

I think it's okay that Queer Eye relies on a truism, the stereotype that gay men are more fashionable than straight men. I consider this a fairly innocuous stereotype, not even as harmful as the big-dick myth can be to under-endowed black men, and far less damaging than the stingy Jew stigma. It was conceived in a spirit of playfulness, with a wink that doesn't underestimate the audience. Queer Eye also gets an important idea into Middle American living rooms — that gay men can be useful to society even if they don't procreate.

That Queer Eye is designed to hawk products is par for the course on TV. However, the argument that Queer Eye depicts gay stereotypes actually confuses me, since the show is virtually unscripted. I suspect it is mainly a reaction to Carson's unflagging flamboyance, rather than Ted's wry commentary or Kyan's straight-acting/straight-appearing glam cowboy drag. But believe it or not, Carson behaves like he does on television all the time. If he is a stereotype, he is a stereotype 24-7. I suppose that's inside information, but you'll know soon enough, at least by next year, when his E! True Hollywood Story premieres. As a gay man, curiously, you're freer to embrace your stereotypes with humor and a sense of performance, whereas black folks who try to fit stereotypes claim they're "keeping it real" and expect to be taken very seriously. Of course, being a nelly queen is stigmatized even within the gay community, so it involves running more risks. These range from the risk of not getting laid to the risk of getting severely beaten and left for dead on a dusty road. I prefer Carson, the real McQueer, to say, "Men on Film," because with him, it's Tiffany crystal clear that the joke — for once — isn't at the expense of the effeminate man. For American culture, that is nothing short of revolutionary.

Tishala

Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 09:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
SEPTEMBER 11--The "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" guys may be the hottest things on TV, but you'd never know it from their paychecks. That's because Fab 5 members are only getting $3000 per episode during the show's first year, according to contracts signed months before the Bravo program's July debut. And the show's stars, who locked themselves into six consecutive one-year options, will be getting annual raises of just five percent, which works out to $3150 per episode next season and $3307.50 the following year. The "Queer Eye" deals are also virtually perk-free. For instance, if cast members have to travel, they'll be flying coach. And while given a relatively small piece of merchandising proceeds, the show's stars will not have their voice and/or likeness used to sell "firearms, alcoholic beverages, tobacco, lotteries, gambling products, intimate personal hygiene products, medication, and/or intimate apparel." The "Queer Eye" quintet's combined $15,000 salary this year is quite a bargain when compared to the heftier sums paid to ensemble players like Lara Flynn Boyle, let alone seven-figure superstars like Ray Romano or Kelsey Grammer. Boyle earned about $45,000 per episode during last year's season of "The Practice," according to the six-year deal she inked in 1997 with producer David E. Kelley. Below you'll find the standard "Queer Eye" deal memorandum, a copy of which just surfaced in connection with a lawsuit brought by original cast member Blair Boone.

Smoking Gun

Madelane

Friday, September 12, 2003 - 06:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
So my boyfriend Tivo last night thought the 10pm Queer Eye was a new episode with someone called "Tom Minogue" but the one that aired was Adam the married guy again. Is anyone else confused or just Tivo?

Squaredsc

Friday, September 12, 2003 - 06:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
well madelane i don't have tivo but i believe the new one isn't til next week.

Reader234

Friday, September 12, 2003 - 08:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought they aired new episodes on Tuesdays...

GO SMOKING GUN!! I wonder if the fab 5 get a lawyer who can work more into their 6 YEAR contracts? It would definately be in Bravo's best interest to make them happy, but if they booted one already, Bravo may think they (any of the Fab 5) can easily be replaced... I dont know if I would compare the Fab 5 to Ray Romano, Kelsey Grammar, how about someone from This Old House? I wonder how those 2 salaries would compare.... plus it is an "ensemble" cast, so hopefully the Fab ones will take a lesson from the cast of Friends, but if they've already signed a 6 year contract... that reminds me of the record producer who signed the contracts with the Making of the Band people ( NSync, etc...)