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Tishala

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have to say, I loved Elyse and I think she was punished a bit because they couldn't relate to her because, as someone said before, they implicitly think that if a woman has a brain she has to keep it hidden.

That said, I'm really happy that Adrianne won. She is lovely and I think she will fit into the modeling world well. And I live her attitude. The best part of all, though, was that there was an Adrianne poster on the wall instead of a Tyra one at the end. I kinda got tired of those Saddam Tyra pics all over the place. LOL

Kimmo

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 01:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I also thought Elyse "threw" to Adrianne with her estrogen comments-- I understood what she was saying, beauty is a science, etc-- But Tyra was making clear that wasn't what she needed to hear. Ugh, it made me really uncomfortable hear Elyse insisting on sticking her ground on the estrogen/ all-beauty field. She could have at least said, "You do need *a brain* to model," but I just don't think she wanted to win.

I really hope we don't see Elyse again, since she declared that we wouldn't! I don't want to see her compromising herself or anything. :)

Jan

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 03:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Adrianne is on Access Hollywood with Billy Bush.She is glad that she feels that her family will never have to worry again about whether they can pay the bills this month or whether they will have a house to live in.

Sh esaid she is hungry forSports Illustrated.

She looked great and , again, the difference in her voice is amazing.

Scorpiomoon

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 04:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
UGH!

Adrianne was on ET for, like 20 seconds. She did look good and her voice sounded really approved (even though I couldn't get a totally accurate impression becausethey only qupted two sentences).

Dahli

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 09:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ET - ugh! I'm getting so tired of their soft porn peddling antics! I for one don't find nude strangers all that entertaining...especially at the dinner hour!

Scorpiomoon

Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 01:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dahli: I agree! And I am so sick of hearing about JFK Jr. and the supposed sordid details of his life. They devote half the show to him. It is sickening.

Sunrvrose

Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 01:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm with the rest of you who shed real tears when Adrianne won. She wanted it so badly, and by the end I wanted it for her just as much.

I was so darn mad that I missed her on Regis and Kelly. I hope I get another chance to see her.

Sunrvrose

Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 01:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, and BTW, I don't think Elyse threw the comp at all. She is way to arrogant and competitive to do that. I think she just finally showed the judges her contemp for models in general. She thinks that they do nothing to earn their way into the industry. According to her, the looks are just a freak of nature and that is all they bring to the table.

Anyone who watched this series has seen just a tiny bit of the literal hell that top models go through.

Fluff

Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 06:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree. Elyse didn't throw that thing at all. And she was the one to say that she never quits, which I totally believe. Plus, the money she could have made would've been great for med school, and who the heck would pass that up? Nope. She didn't throw it.

Texannie

Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 07:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
OK..I didn't watch alot of this show, but I think Adriene was on Extra last night. Did Janice not like her much? The person being interviewed was saying "well, it's ok that Janice didn't like me, maybe one days I will be old, a hasbeen and bitter"...wow!

Fluff

Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 08:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know, but that's clever and completely true!

Cecjoc

Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 10:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, it was an interesting ending. I, for one would like to know what happened to Elyse behind the scenes between Paris and NY. She went from focused and energized to blase and somewhat inept. Perhaps the loss of her nemesis Robin killed the cometitive edge. I too, thought she might have 'thrown' it to Adrienne near the end, and let her contempt for the show and Tyra/Kimora shine through. The difference between Paris Elyse, and the back to NY Elyse was pretty dramatic

Tyra was openly fishing for compliments at the end there. She wanted Elyse to praise models for their intelligence and hard work, and Elyse just wasn't going to give it to her. Elyse saw Models as lucky winners of the genetic Lotto, and not much more. If she had been informed that her winning was unlikely she may have really wanted to rip into Tyra and Kimora, both of whom I believe she sees as cheesy and self obsessed. I personally think she was well aware that these views would be seen as iconoclastic to the judges, and threw them out there anyway--almost like she knew ahead of time that she didn't have a chance of winning.

In the end I feel that Elyse decided that she wanted her portrayal on TV to show her to be the cliche of the academic elitist. That is, one who is openly contemptuous of lesser beings, and proud of it. One who converses in the jargon of their academic area with little regard for the listener, while at the same time enjoying a feeling of superiority when that listener is baffled. Everything that she says and does, I feel, is designed to conciously or unconciously, maintain a superior image to herself, and to make sure everyone else sees it too. I like Elyse, but I wonder if she will look back on this with some embarrassment as she gains some maturity. I have known a few academics (dated one) who stay like this well into midlife.

Regarding Adrienne- There are people in the industry-that stylist in the above TV Guide article, Janice, and probably others, that don't see her as a top model, for whatever reason. Elyse was, to Janice, the best--that was her taste. When Elyse was ousted, she chose Shannon, as, I believe, many other industry folks would have. Adrienne has a boxy torso, a big nose, and wasn't that great on the runway. Basically, Janice didn't think Adrienne was the right one, which was her right as a Judge. Adrienne dissing her for her opinion shows a lack of maturity and a lot of insecurity in my opinion.

I believe Adrienne was chosen in the end because:

1) She had the 'woe is me'/underdog thing DOWN. This was perceived as humility, and everybody lapped it up.

2) She was flexible, easygoing, and non threatening--she'll be easy to control.

3) She's perfect for the Ghetto Chic that is Baby Phat. Seriously-who had ever heard of BP outside of the insular Fashion Industry/R&B Music scene?

I like Adrienne, but I never saw her as the winner of a Top Model Competition--I think she won based on personality.

Cecjoc

Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 10:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
P.S.

I also think it is VERY INTERESTING that there was a definite (at least that's how they portrayed it) Revlon Contract as the prize. The day after Adrienne won, the wording in news reports changed to 'possible contract with Revlon'

Jan

Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 02:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I saw an interview with Elyse after she was kicked (which means it would have been taped this week..ie 2 months later)

She said she did not disagree with what the judges said to her. They said she came across as arrogant and condescending..and she was.

Cecjoc

Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 03:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sigh.

After reading this, I feel myself jumping on the Adrienne love train. She really is fabulous.

Tomboy Takes "Top Model" Crown

by Anderson Jones
Jul 10, 2003, 6:35 AM PT


Sometimes evil wins.
Adrianne Curry, known to fans of America's Next Top Model for her straight-talking, uninhibited antics and part of the so-called hell-bound clique, was crowned the inaugural Top Model Tuesday night during the season finale of UPN's summertime guilty pleasure. Overwhelmed when a curtain dropped revealing a blowup of her face as the winner, Curry had to hold onto fellow finalist--and avowed Christian good girl--Shannon Stewart to keep her balance.


But it's a secret Curry has had to keep since February.
"I came home and acted depressed and, finally, when they released the names [of finalists], I had people convinced that I was gone after show one, and, during the entire thing, I showed no enthusiasm," says Curry by cell phone after landing in Chicago for a spot on Fox News, after a whirlwind press tour of New York. "I was like, 'Yeah it must be nice to win.' Some of my friends expected it, and they're all pissed with me, and they're calling me a lying sack of sh-t."


A waitress from Joliet, Illinois, Curry, 20, never imagined she would win the American Idol-esque competition.


"From the get-go, I thought Elyse [Sewell] was going to win," Curry says. "And after seeing the show, I'm so shocked that she pulled her 'I'm more superior than you' bulls--t with the experts. I didn't understand why, in God's name, they picked me over her at all until I finally got to see it on TV, and now I want to give her a call and say, 'You dumb@$$.' "
Sewell finished in third place and was the first contestant ejected during Tuesday night's finale.


Curry, meanwhile, says she won't be waitressing again any time soon.

"F--k that," she laughs.

In some ways, her win--which awards her a photo spread in Marie Claire magazine, a contract with Revlon and representation by Wilhelmina Models--was shocking to the Top Model audience as well. Over the 10-week course of the show, Tyra Banks, the show's host and executive producer, described Curry as a "rock 'n' roll tomboy…rough around the edges and in need of a lot of polish." Curry only won one of the show's eye-rolling "challenges"; they included photo shoots (with snakes, a hot boy model and even sans clothes), tests on their runway walk, applying makeup (for day and night) and wearing haute couture fashion. Ironically, Curry, took that prize, which was really a test of her ladylikeness while interacting with four French aristocrats.


But viewers knew that Curry was a trouper.
During an early episode of the series, Curry came down with a nasty case of food poisoning and almost missed one of the weekly elimination rounds, which would have immediately disqualified her. But she showed up, green and weak, to take criticism from the show's judges, including Banks, Janice Dickinson (the "world's first" supermodel), Marie Claire's fashion editor Beau Quillian and Baby Phat creative director Kimora Lee Simmons.


Even when supposed pal Sewell included Curry in a withering rant, it rolled off her back.
"We're freaking snarky b!@tches," Adrianne says. "I loved it. She gave me air time. She let Jason Mewes and Kevin Smith of Jay and Silent Bob know just how much I love them. Oh my God, I would die to meet Jay, that's like my dream man."


Indeed, viewers tuned in every week (or TiVoed it) to catch the drama between the 10 contestants and to enjoy Dickinson, the judge most like American Idol's Simon, dress down the contestants. After looking at a photo she famously told one wannabe that she "looked like an escapee from a mental institution. You look like an amputee, and it looks like you have a penis." Most of the drama centered around a moisturizer-loving African-American lesbian, Ebony Haith, and Robin, a devout Southern Christian, who formed a holy trinity of her own with fellow avowed Christians Kesse and Stewart.
"For Christians," says Curry, "I'm sorry, but Kesse and Shannon are true, real, awesome, genuine human beings that really do believe in Christianity, while Robin, on the other hand, seems to be the biggest hypocrite I've ever met in life."


The drama between the women paid off for what UPN calls a "dramality" series, earning the network its biggest audience in the 8 p.m. time slot since 1997, by averaging 4.5 million viewers and winning the period among females 12-34 and finishing second among all adults 18-34.
UPN already has a second season of the show in the works.

Roteach

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 02:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
In this week's People magazine, there is a one page article on Adrianne. She's wearing the dress that she wore on one of the evening magazine shows. Either Extra or the one that Extra is paired with. Her hair is a bit wavy and her makeup is perfect. She looks very relaxed, like she has been doing this all her life.

Scorpiomoon

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 05:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for the tidbits, guys!

It is so good to know Adrianne is doing so well.

The only thing I wonder about is: remember when Tyra said models hate beauty queens? How are models going to feel (and treat) a reality show winner? I suppose it doesn't matter because Adrianne will work hard and kick anyone's ass. I just hope she doesn't have to deal with model snobs who think she got off easy because she got into the business through this show.

Not1worry

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 06:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've resolved not to spend any more money on People magazine, but I will go stand in the store and just read the article about Adrianne!

Kimmo

Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 12:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cecjoc, I also wondered if Elyse had an inkling that she may not win anyway....There was one interview bit on the last episode where she said something like, "I don't think it's a matter of who deserves to win, it's not like everyone has the inalienable right to become a model."

That made me think she was tired of hearing that Adrianne deserved to win because she wanted it so much-- Well, I'm sure that was on the show to suggest that, but I mean that Elyse then just "gave" it to Adrianne because she was going to lose anyway, or because she knew Adrianne really needed/wanted it (though that would conflict with that statement she made).

Roteach

Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 11:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Not, it may be in the online version, but unless you are an AOL subscriber, you need a code from a newstand issue to access it.I have my user code that I can post if anyone wants me to.

Jan

Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 11:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
that would be great thanks roteach

Roteach

Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 12:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OK, the code is P0(that's a zero)721996. Go to people.com and when it asks for a code, type that in.

Not1worry

Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 06:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I could see the article in the table of contents but there was no link for me to click so I could read it. Anyone else figure it out?

Scorpiomoon

Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 07:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't seem to figure out how to gain access to the site via a non-AOl means either. Crap!

Aunt_Bob

Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 09:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You have to click on 'Newstand buyer' (or something like that), then put in the access code and your email and it will tell you that you have access to People.com until the next issue of the mag comes out.

I spent 15 minutes looking for Adrienne and couldn't find anything on her. I did a search for her and Tyra and came up with OLD stuff on Tyra.

Oh, Roteach...could you please tell us which link to click on. Thank you very much for the access code.