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Archive through June 18, 2003
Conejo | Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 06:03 am     Juju, I agree that there is something about his mouth/lips that reminds me of Mr. Clinton. I also think that they kind of sound the same and their features (eyes, nose, etc.)resemble each others. Glad someone else noticed this too!  |
Demeter | Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 06:13 am     I don't think it is about punishment. I can certainly understand his firm deciding not to use him. If this guy is as sleazy as he has been portrayed on the show, in front of cameras, it would leave me to wonder how he is behind closed doors. I would have difficulty trusting him as my attorney. |
Texannie | Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 06:48 am     It sounds like to me, that the firm was more upset over how he acted on the show (witnesses) than over the JAG case. |
Grannyg | Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 07:31 am     Wonder how the girls feel now? And you can bet your booty that the girl that wins will take the million bucks. I know the show has been filmed and that the decision has already been made but I'll bet whoever wins has a lot to say about it now if she chose the guy instead of the million. I would settle for $400,000 lump sum just for enduring this thing!! |
Juju2bigdog | Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 09:35 am     I was out of town Monday night and didn't get to watch this week. Is there a synopsis somewhere on the board of what happened? Or what they showed? Who got eliminated? Can somebody give me a link? |
Myjohnhenry | Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 09:43 am     Recap This is a pretty good synopsis on Reality News in addition to the discussion on this board of "TONIGHTS SHOW - 6/9". |
Tweety | Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 11:06 am     Did anyone check to see if the law firm is legit? Maybe it's a stunt by NBC to help boost ratings (you know how many will tune into a reality show AFTER there has been a scandal.) |
Grooch | Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 11:11 am     Look here at the last post for the link. |
Lurknomore | Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 11:47 am     The more I think about this the more I think he HAD to have been chosen to BE (sorry mods lol) swarmy and dislikable so it doesn't look bad when the girls choose the mil over him. And again, at the pace they have eliminated the women was there ever really an opportunity to get to know ANY man enough that they would choose a mil over him? If the Producers of this show wanted that they would have chosen a Ryan from the Bachlorette type not this dude IMHO. And I still think that there either has to be some twist at the end OR he has to be in on it, otherwise this is just plain cruel and meanspirited to him, no matter how icky he might be. And to me he reminds me more of a Kennedy than Clinton. |
Realbiz | Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 11:58 am     This has to be somewhat a surprise to NBC as well. Granted, some 'juicy' publicity on the show contestant (e.g. survivor/joe millionaire) may help the rating, but this is a bit out of line for the benefit of the show. See what happened to AI's corey or BB's dude who used a knife threatening to harm kista, they both got expelled from the show when in process. However since this one has already taped before all the controversy came out, it's tricky at least to the network. To cancel a show AFTER it's done would be a huge financial lost. To some degree Rob has harmed himself, NBC and his career (law firm statement), and maybe his 'chosen one' from the end of this show whoever she may be. |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 11:59 am     I don't think he's still being punished for the JAG fiasco. He's lied and lied and that doesn't go over well with most firms and then to have it smeared all over the media.. he's a goner for any number of reasons. And his past behavior is relevant in light of his current similar behavior. And yes, if the show wasn't going to reward him in any way at the end, then the show is cruel and meanspirited. But we knew that all along and we won't know what twist there might be until it ends. However, even if he did get a reward, his actions may also have caused them to forfeit said reward. |
Juju2bigdog | Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 12:41 pm     MJH, thanks for the links. I think why I missed the "tonight's show" thread was because posting in it had ceased by the time I started looking for information, and I use New Messages to view the board. Going to read there now. Thanks for the link to the article as well. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 01:05 pm     Juju and Conejo - Thank you for the validation!!! After the first show, I, too, thought he sometimes displayed a strong resemblance to Bill Clinton....something about his not-too-big, toothy smile and the look in his eyes is very reminiscent of Bill's. I mentioned it to a couple of friends and they both thought I was seeing things and/or crazy. (I have noticed, too, that one of the women has a strong resemblance to Snadra Bullock! I don't remember her name though...) |
Wendo | Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 01:27 am     I have to agree with Seamonkey, I don't think he's being continually punished. It's apparent that he was not honest regarding his past with not only NBC but his ex-law firm as well. I would wager that had he been honest from the get go, he likely wouldn't be on the show and we would be watching some other guy. But, he probably wanted his 15 minutes...and boy, he's certainly getting them now. |
Lurknomore | Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 09:39 am     Ok maybe I've been around either these reality show OR this board too much over the years LOL but I still think there is more to all of this--YIKES ANOTHER CONSPIRACY THEORY! lolol. Cleary NBC geared this show for the girls to take the loot. Look at the casting. Look at how someone posted they structured the payoff. And everyone is acting like this is such big bux...a MINOR investment in TV land. Heck doesn't each of the Friends get that per episode, cept NOT spread over 40 years. But if the girl take the mil (GEE ya think that will happen??) there has to be a way for it to happen without NBC looking evil to some poor, unsuspecting nice guy who gave his heart (in the 3 days the show was filmed in LOL). So I wouldn't be stunned if they knew...but at the very least they knew he was a jerk. We all could see that 5 minutes in, and I'm assuming they spent much longer with him. I just can't believe they couldn't find a jerk cabable of speaking in complete sentences. LOL |
Seamonkey | Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 11:14 am     Previously, quoted by Realfan:
Quote:<<I'm a defense attorney in Dallas and I know Rob. Let's just say he makes his way around town with the ladies. And let's also say that's putting it nicely. From what I hear, he already has an agent and is auditioning for soap operas and stuff, though, so don't feel too bad for him.
So.. too bad their investigation missed talking to a friend or two  |
Grannyg | Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 11:53 am     He probably gets $500,000 just because the girls didn't pick him, they picked the money!! And I'm sure NBC is scratching their little heads trying to figure out a way to get the money back. |
Frenchy | Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 02:00 pm     I am just floored at the little 21 year old's behavior towards him! *( Forgive me...but I could not be bothered to remember any of their names, except for Erin cuz I think she's awesome!) She is a lovesick little girl who probably kisses her posters of the BACKSTREET BOYS every night before bed and writes about Rob in her diary!! This is one bizarro deal of a show kids!!!! |
Grooch | Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 02:55 pm     I can't even remember which girl this one was. HEARNE CHRISTOPHER JR.: Teacher is out of the show and out of a job Teacher is out of the show and out of a job She took the high road, now she's high and dry. Mission elementary school teacher Alima Ravenscroft says she only wanted to have some fun. And maybe, just maybe, meet a nice guy she could take home to Mom or Dad. So she landed on the NBC "reality" series "For Love or Money." Ravenscroft, who describes herself as a Christian and virgin who plans to abstain from sex until marriage, passed on making out with hunky bachelor Rob Campos. She rolled her eyes and furrowed her brow as Campos' ultra-tacky antics careened out-of-control. Not surprisingly, the uncompromising Ravenscroft got ejected by the bachelor dude last Monday on the series' second episode. Her shot at collecting a cool million down the drain, but her dignity intact. "Thank God it's over," Ravenscroft heaved at Mission's Lucky Brewgrill, where 30 or so of her friends gathered to watch the show. "I am just so relieved to be out of that whole situation. I was so mad at myself for even giving him a hug." But all that's just the tip of Ravenscroft's "reality" iceberg. Though she warned her employer, the Visitation School, at 51st and Baltimore, of her intention to enter the reality romance fray, Ravenscroft was effectively fired for taking part in the series. Forced to resign is how she characterizes it. "It was strongly suggested," Ravenscroft says of the resignation. "But I don't regret going on the show. I mean, I'm single, this is the time to do something like this." Her main regret: That Visitation didn't give her the benefit of the doubt as to her conduct on the show. "It's their loss," says friend Robin Clarke, an Overland Park kindergarten teacher. "I mean, if you hire somebody, I think you should back them up." Had Visitation reserved judgment until seeing her, "they would have been pleasantly surprised," Ravenscroft says. Link |
Grooch | Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 02:57 pm     Ugh! Part of a news snip. And he also learned a tough lesson about living on camera, getting a little tipsy and a little too fresh with some of the contestants just this week. He says, "I have just tried to learn from my mistakes and apologize for them." And while NBC is standing by it's new reality Romeo, the Dallas firm where Rob rents a law office has voted him out. But this eligible legal eagle won't be out of work for long. He says, "In the last few days I’ve received four offers from law firms to work with them. I received calls this morning from three new clients." Looks like he doesn't have to worry about money. Now let's see if he can find love. Link |
Scorpiomoon | Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 05:17 pm     Can someone please explain this logic to me? Alima behaved respectably and didn't do anything crazy or sordid yet she loses her job. Rob acts like a total ass and people are, supposedly, calling him asking for represntation. WTF? |
Faerygdds | Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 06:32 pm     teacher vs. lawyer... people expect techers to be paragons of virtue... people expect lawyers to be sleazy (sorry GAL) It doesn't matter that people of both professions are human and therefore individuals. It does't matter that some teachers sre horrible and some lawyers are of great moral character, but it's all about expectations... |
Demeter | Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 06:47 pm     Rob's job offers are also claimed by him. If he really is as sleazy as he had been protrayed...I can easily imagine him claimin that defensively. Also, if he is that kind of character, maybe it's the same kind of characters who have offered him work. |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 08:39 pm     Article in TVGuide.. can't find it online at all 10 things you didn't know about for love or money Is Rob really all that? Is Kelly the biggest conniver? And just how much booze is everyone drinking? We get the lowdown on TV's cattiest dating show by Donna Freydkin little pictures with captions: "The Groper" - Rob The bystander: Erin The queen of mean? Kelly Kisses and tells? Laura Bootylicious: Lauren Not so innocent: Paige 1. Rob is a real "hands-on" guy. "He was all over everybody." Lauren says. So much, in fact, that the girls gave him a nickname. "We called him "The Groper," Kelly says. Even smitten Paige admits he wasn't too picky. "One time Rob and Kelly and I were together," she recalls, "and he put his hand on her leg and then took it off and but his hand on my leg." 2. There's a reason so many of the contestants are blond Southerners. "We did extensive interviewing with Rob on what type of woman he was interested in," says executive producer JD Roth. "This is a guy from the South, so we put plenty of Southern girls in there." So were the ladies to his liking? "They seemed real smart," Rob says. "They had a good sense of humor and were real pretty." 3. Sex is off the menu. Rob and the girls are contractually obligated to just say no to nooky. "It's about romance, it's not about sex," says executive producer Bruce Nash. How's this for romantic: "None of us went through any kind of screening or testing for STDs," Laura reveals. Which helped keep temptation to a minimum. "We were not going to be portrayed as slutty or stupid," says Laura. 4. Kelly's really sweet. No, really. "She wasn't necessarily saying nice things, but she was doing nice things," says Erin. For starters, Kelly arrived at the house bearing goodies for her cast mates from Benefit cosmetics, which is owned by her aunt. She also filled the bathrooms with soaps, bubble baths and shower caps. "She comes off as this snobby b!tch, but she's not," says Paige. "Kelly took on the motherly figure," says Lauren, who has remained close with her, "making sure everybody had dinner or cleaning up for us." 5. It was easy keeping the million-dollar secret from rob. If anyone got loose lips, says Lauren, "we could have been sued." But Roth reveals one woman blurted to Rob that whoever won was planning to fly the other girls to Las Vegas for a major party. "It was a "holy s--t" moment," says Roth, laughing. "Luckily, it got brushed over." 6. Paige is wilier than she looks. She may seem innocent, but her audition tape tells another story. "She said, 'I'd like to make every guy think I'm the greatest girl there is,'" Roth says, "then she leaned into the camera and said 'You know what I mean?'" laura bought her girlish ace - at first: "But the more time I spent with her, the more I felt that she had an agenda." Seems she has one off screen too. "Have you seen her Web site ( http://www.lovepaigejones.com )?" Kelly asks. "She sells underwear with her name on it!" 7. After Episode 2's hot-tub horseplay, alcohol was rationed. The wine flowed freely at the group dinner, followed by tequila shots - and Rob indulged with enthusiasm. He says he was "a little bit tipsy." Laura says he was "obliterated, messy drunk." Either way, after he asked Lauren to bend over and remove one of his boots, and later lusted after several ladies in the hot-tub, Roth decided to close the open bar. "I didn't want to show people drunk and sloppy." he says. After that, sniffs Kelly, "they handed us jug wine every now and then." 8. Rob's apology was as cheesy as it looked. Suspicious minds might think his post hot-tub grope mea culpa was scripted. But Roth swears it was totally genuine. "I didn't tell him one word to say," he says. And Rob insists it came from the heart. But not everyone was buying. "i think he was told to do it," says Lauren. "It saved NBC's a$$. This guy's supposed to be Prince Charming and he's screwing up left and right." 9. Rob needed a little help with those dramatic elimination speeches. Although he insists the words are strictly his (he is a lawyer, after all), Rob will admit that casting director Rob LaPlante would go over each speech and help polish it, "just so I could crystallize it in my mind." But Kelly, for one, remains unimpressed. "I hope those speeches weren't rehearsed," she says. "He wasn't too eloquent." 10. No one got to know the real Rob. According to Kelly, "He has a reputation [back home] for being a drinker and a ladies' man." Rob denies that; so does his law-firm buddy Sergio. "He goes out and has a good time" but doesn't "get crazy or anything." Laura contends that "he was difficult to read. The guy wore an incredible mask." Still, Rob hsd no regrets: "I'm happy with the decisions I made." +++++++++++++ I refrained from any editorial comments while typing this, but they were flying around in my head Have at it!! |
Pamy | Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 09:11 pm     I saw that aricle also, and was tempted to write tv guide and ask why they didn't add the bad 10 things we NOW KNOW about him!!! |
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