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Beachcomber88

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 12:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Crazydog, I've been wondering the same myself. Do Nick and Jessica have any other friends? We never see them do anything with anyone else except Drew. I'm sure Jessie has friends of her own - where are they?

I've been to the Bahamas twice before, so I'm looking forward to next week. Looks like they have the swim with the dolphins and then with the stingrays. The stingrays are slimy and a bit creepy when they nudge up to you and touch your legs. I can see Jessica freaking out over that.

Crazydog, looks like you and I are having our own private discussion about this show. Glad to see there's another fan out there. Can't wait until the boards open back up at Television Without Pity - the discussion here is totally inadequate.

Nathalia

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 02:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This show makes me laugh out loud! Can you imagine Jessica and Ozzy together? I think that would be hilarious!

I thought the guy falling over in his scooter was funny..I'm sure they wouldn't have shown it if he had actually hurt himself. Maybe because I know someone who sells them and we always joke about them.

I'm having faith that it is all in the editing of Jessica to make her look this way..but her parents I believe have final say of what goes in the show and what does not. Her Mom and Dad are both listed in the credits of the show..and I remember seeing her on a talk show where she stated this.

I hope that Drew is getting a cut of the money for appearing in every episode. I was actually surprised they wanted to stay at a friends house rather than a hotel. Actually..one of the other members of 98 degrees was at the fair with them..he was on one of the rides with them.

Did anybody else notice that Nick used to have a tattoo of 98 degrees on his arm..but it has now been covered up by that sun tattoo.

I actually like Jessica..I bought her first cd..and am thinking of buying her new one. I figure for what she is going through and giving me laughs every week..it's the least I can do!

Crazydog

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 02:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I remember that 98 Degrees tattoo, and yeah, I guess he drew over it with a new one. Whatever happened to them anyways? Are they over and done for good or are they just on hiatus (like Destiny's Child and NStink) while Nick records his solo CD?

I like Jessica's music as well, and I'm embarrassed to admit that I am considering getting the new one as well. I like that Sweetest Sin song.

Nathalia

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 02:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I believe 98 degrees is done for good. Unless they are involved in other areas of music..you know you are not going to see any of the others being solo artists.

When Nick was talking about which song to release..the ballad sounded just like a 98 degrees song. Why break up a good thing? I have no idea. I don't see him doing too well on his own..but who knows?

Crazydog

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 03:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He didn't pick that "I Swear" song precisely because it sounds like a typical 98 Degrees song. He didn't want people to just dismiss him. He wanted an edgier, hipper sound, which is why he picked the other one. I can't remember what he called it but I believe it is that "Turn Out the Light" song that he performed for the troops.

Scorpiomoon

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 09:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The "underwear" episode just aired here in Canada.

I have come to this conclusion: Jessica is a perpetual teenager. It's not so much that she is immature in a bratty way; it's more like she's not emotionally and psychologically developed. And as long as she is surrounded by people who coddle her, I don't think that's going to change.

I will say this, I'm grateful they showed her jealousy re: the dancers. It's comforting to know someone as beautiful as jessica is can still feel insecure.

One final thing: The one major things these guys have going for them is that they don't hold grudges. From what I've seen they don't seem to play mind games with each other or torture each other with the past. I respect that.

Beachcomber88

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 12:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The boy band craze is seemingly over. What has become of Nstink, Backstreet, 98 Degrees, and all the other pretenders? Seems like anyone in a group wants to go out and make it on their own. Nick Carter? Puh-leaze. JC Chasez? Maybe. I only see Justin as having some pure staying power.

Regardless of my dislike for anything boy band, I think Nick has good musical sense. I liked how he helped Jessica in the studio when she was recording her song - coaching her, singing it for her, etc. Where was her producer through all of this? I wonder if he felt like he was getting stepped on by Nick.

I'll also admit that I've always had a soft spot for Jessica's songs. "Irresistable" rocked - it was a great catchy upbeat song. Wish I could download the Sweetest Sin song, but I don't think it's worth the $2000.

Scorpiomoon

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 02:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I could see Nick easing into the "behind the scenes" aspect of the music business over the years. But I think Jessica will always want to be a performer.

Can't wait to see in her first movie!

A few of you mentioned you like her music. I can't say I've ever heard her (nor have I paid attention). Does she have a powerful voice? Seriously, does the girl have talent or is her career based on "right place at the right time"?

Italiana

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 06:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I watched the first episode on a whim expecting to fully hate it. I was instantly hooked! The Chicken of the Sea/Tuna remark was priceless! It just got better from there. As far as the $750 lingerie...that is about right for 2 (their almost top of the line) La Perla (Italian) bras and 2 panties with NO rhinestones!

Funny story...my husband and I were in Las Vegas at the Bellagio Hotel around Christmas. They have a La Perla shop there. I used to wear that brand in Italy. Although expensive for Italy($50 for a bra) it is not completely out of the question. So I ran in the shop as my husband said the words "I don't care, buy whatever you want". Since it was Christmas I picked out a embroidered black lace bra with little rhinestones accents and the matching thong. I went to the counter to pay. As I was standing there the two girls behind the counter were feverishly sorting through pantie and bra sets. I over heard that some customer in the hotel had called down and told the girls to pick out 12 bra/pantie sets and put them on the AX and sent them to the room. I thought this was a good time, while I was waiting, to actually look at the price of the set I was about to aquire....Bra= $450 Thong=$195!!!!! I quietly put them back on the rack and slinked out of the store unnoticed. My husband was very happy I did not take him at his word!!

Have you seen the camping one when she takes her Louis Vuitton Murakami $3,000 bag? I winced. She thought Nick was pulling her leg when he told her that they had to put their food in the bear bins in order to keep from being attacked in the middle of the night. She even said "There are really bears there?"..didn't she ever hear of Yogi, Boo Boo, and the picnic basket? Or the one where Nick says he had to fish a dead mouse out of the pool and "it was all rigor mortised" (his words). She asks, somewhat confused "Rigor what?" He explained, to which she replied, somewhat impressed.."Well, you learn something new everyday!" ! There is at least one Jessica gem per episode! Jessica did me one favor, after seeing the condition of their house, my husband now thinks ours is immaculate!

Scorpiomoon

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 03:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Italiana: Heh. :) Yes. That's the one benefit of this show--after watching Jessica, you can't help but feel better abotu yourself in some small way.

Thanks for explaining about La Perla. I, as many people in this thread, wondered about that.

Italiana

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 04:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Scorpio: Fashionista at your service! In addition to living in Italy I also live 20 minutes outside of Los Angeles...so I am familiar with these things. But, I will tell you even if I were wealthy, I would look at the price of something I was about to buy in a boutique on Rodeo Drive (most expensive area to shop in LA)! Jessica has no idea what things cost. She thought it would cost $500 to hire movers! Out here it would cost that much to move ONE person's belongings within the same city! On the other hand Nick seems TOO frugal! I agree with Ric, Ark and Kady that there is no way $20 an hour was enough for that poor lady to clean their house!

Gina8642

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 12:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Did she go to regualar school - or was she home schooled?

I'm sure they are purposly editing in every blank stare and dumb comment, but even so, she does seem pretty naive, one usually picks this stuff by her age.

I'll give her a pass on the bear stuff. I used to work in a campground that haD bears - you would not believe the ignorant stuff I saw campers do and say. Just wondering about it? That is very, very, mild. LOL

BTW - what in the heck were those boys doing pulling down dead branches off a standing tree? Hello, that's against the rules in any campground I have ever stayed at. Dead trees (aka snags) are some of the most important wildlife habitat in the woods. If I saw that, I would have issued a citation.

Texannie

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 01:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Not sure about the school..would lean towards hs or tutors since she has been working since she was young.
I do tend to think that she says alot of "blonde things" cause whenever she does make a dumb comment, she always seems to follow it with "don't make fun of me"..which leads me to believe that there is alot of teasing about her comments.
Don't know about the bears, but I was appalled that they showed up at a golf course in jeans and shirt untucked!!! That is a huge no no, and most courses would not have let them played.

Cjr

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 10:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I really get a kick out of this show but I do have a problem with Nick acting like he is surprised at Jessica's naivety. Didn't they date before the wedding?

Why is he so insistent she clean the house, do the laundry and other things. Not that I think she shouldn't if she wants but why did he marry her if all he wants to do is change her? She has obviously been pampered her whole life, she works hard and I would certainly have a housekeeper in her position. Heck, he can do his own laundry and she can send hers out!

Beachcomber88

Monday, September 22, 2003 - 01:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think this discussion has been had before, but I think $20 an hour for the maid is perfectly reasonable. Yes, the house is a pigsty. But she's a MAID. That's what maids do! It doesn't matter how messy it is. If it takes longer to clean because of all the mess, then she works more hours. And if she works more hours, then she gets paid more! How much do you think is reasonable to pay her? $30? $40? $50/hour? That's over $100000 a year. $20 an hour, assuming a 40 hour work week (which we know she wouldn't come close to), is on the order of $36000 a year. I think that's a bundle for an uneducated woman to make.

Italiana

Monday, September 22, 2003 - 02:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Beach: Have you tried tried hire a maid lately? LOL..I don't have one but all my friends do. They charge by what they have to do and how big the house is.
My friend has a 2500 sq. ft. house. $400 for the first visit (2 or 3 people cleaning) and $80 a week there after (she stays about 2 hours)!!! My other friend has a slightly bigger house uses a different service and gets charged $100 to $120 a visit 2 cleaning ladies for 2 hours. That is just for regular cleaning. Both charge extra for windows, laundry, ironing etc. I know it is ridiculous, that is why I don't have one. I imagine Jessica's house is at least 2 to 3 times as big as my friends and you saw the laundry all over the house and the entry....I was just thinking that going by those factors it might be pretty expensive for them to hire a maid.

Texannie

Monday, September 22, 2003 - 05:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
WOW! Don't let my housekeeper her that, she will move to your town Italiana!!! I pay $50 for a half day AND she irons, does laundry and polishes silver!! Has worked for me for 13 years. She started at $35 dollars. My friends pay anywhere between $40-65 for their housekeepers.

Texannie

Monday, September 22, 2003 - 05:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
edited to say, I really can spell H-E-A-R! LOL

Eliz87

Monday, September 22, 2003 - 06:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"$20 an hour, assuming a 40 hour work week (which we know she wouldn't come close to), is on the order of $36000 a year. I think that's a bundle for an uneducated woman to make."

OMG!! $36K -- a BUNDLE???? I don't think that should be considered a bundle by anyone, educated or not. It might pay the bills, but forget saving for a decent education for your children if you have them. And if you have to pay for your own health insurance, that's a third of it blown right there. UGH.

Think of what Jessica has made in her lifetime...and if the posts here are all accurate, as I'm sure they are, she seems to be rather uneducated herself.

Crazydog

Monday, September 22, 2003 - 09:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't necessarily think the maid will be wallowing in cash, but I agree with Beach. I do think $20 an hour is reasonable. As extrapolated, that is $36,000 a year. That to me is quite a bit of money for an uneducated woman. Accountants and doctors who just graduated from medical school earn about $40,000 per year, and they have gone through years of specialized training.

For those of you who think it is ridiculously low considering what the woman had to deal with, that's why she is paid by the hour. The bigger the house, the bigger the mess, the longer it takes, the more she gets paid.

I think it's perfectly reasonable. I'm also willing to bet that it's paid under the table. Since she doesn't live with them, they don't report her on their tax return, and somehow I wouldn't be surprised if the woman doesn't pay taxes at all.

Considering the alternative occupations available to her, and the little amount of money she could earn as a cashier or janitor, I think it's decent money.

Italiana

Monday, September 22, 2003 - 10:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Eliz and Crazy...you are both right. The money IS payed under the table...and they don't get any medical/dental/vision insurance, Workman's comp., social security, disability or payed vacation. Most of them are not even citizens (but this is California and soon they will get driver's licenses LOL). Come to think of it, I don't know anyone in L.A. who has a maid that is from this country. Maybe out here it is hard for business owners to compete, maybe no one from here wants to do this type of job. I might be wrong, but now that I think of it..I think their maid was there for 6 hours and had asked for $120 which would have been $20 an hour but Nick ended up giving her $100 cause he thought $20 an hour was too much. Tex: I want your maid!!! Tell me if she ever moves to L.A....wait maybe I'll move to Texas!LOL!

Lilfair

Monday, September 22, 2003 - 10:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jessica cracks me up. She farts, burps and is a general slob...gotta love it.

I'm shocked that I feel lots o love for this couple.

BTW...Merry Maids does my house every other week for $75.

And every three months what they call "deep cleaning" for $175. Not sure the sq footage....at least 2500.

Eliz87

Monday, September 22, 2003 - 11:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I clean my own home. Costs me whatever the cost of cleaning supplies is, and a little time that I wish could be spent doing something else. (I just can't get over the idea of someone else touching my things and cleaning my mess...I don't like that.)

Fabnsab

Monday, September 22, 2003 - 11:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think it was under the table. She was from an agency. She had the receipt in her hand. The reason she probably didn't tell them how much she charged at first was because the agency told her not to on TV.
She will have to pay taxes on that money. $20 is a decent amount to get paid but not with the cost of living in LA.

Gina8642

Monday, September 22, 2003 - 02:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keep in mind 36k in Southern California is different than $36k in middle America.

I live in SE Michigan. It costs about $80 bucks for two hours of housekeeping (vacuum, dust, mop hard floord, clean bathrooms and kitchen - no extras (windows, ironing, dishes, laundry, etc.) (i.e., 2 hours of one person, or one hour of two persons)

If Jessica and what's his name are smart they will report the expenditure on their taxes which will generate a 1099 to the cleaning person. Then the cleaning person is responsible for her taxes - which will amount to around 1/3 of the total - because being self-employed she's responsible for all the taxes. (J & hubby should do this so someone doesn't come after them after seeing this on TV)

I would pay more than $20 if they wanted a good house keeper and one who wouldn't quit on them.