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Texannie | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 07:19 pm     http://www.nbc.com/nbc/For_Love_or_Money_2/eric.shtml Eric Home State: Minnesota Occupation: Media Planner Age: 27 What three people would you combine to create your ideal mate? Bridget Hall. Not only am I stalkishly attracted to her, but I read an article stating that she dated a construction worker and lived with him in a humble borough outside Manhattan. And that's sexy. Cameron Diaz. I was into Cameron - - we're on a first name basis - - before it was cool to be into Cameron. From "She's The One" I've been drawn in by her infectious smile and fun loving personality. Not to mention her legs. If there's anyone who could be "Mary" in real life, I envision that girl to be Cameron Diaz. Mother Theresa. Since the first two were so easy on the eyes, I thought I'd make it a perfect trifecta and include Mother Theresa. Seriously, what Mother Theresa lacked in outward beauty, she more than made up for in her soul and servant's attitude. She is a perfect model for self-abnegation, something all humans can embrace: putting other people first is what both parties should always do in a relationship. If money weren't a concern, what would your ultimate luxury item be? A little yacht to tool around the Caribbean. Bring my friends down, bask on the sun-soaked beaches, sip piña coladas, hang out with Jimmy Buffet, and ride; forever searching for the perfect sunset just past the horizon. Which would you choose: A rich, trophy wife or a poor soul mate? Poor soul mate, without question. History and experience are the greatest teachers, and the failure of the trophy wife is well documented: one only has to look to the likes of Donald Trump to see evidence of this. The simple things in life are the best appreciated. An evening walk, Chinese take-out, a new release, and stimulating conversation is all I need. comments may have been edited |
Jasonfan | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 07:48 pm     I'm pretty sure Eric was on "Meet my Parents" or one of those shows. I can't remember, though, if he was the "catch" or a contestant. He also reminds me of Robbie from "7th Heaven." Did Erin tell him he was breathtaking? If she did, I'm thinking of a certain Seinfeld episode. . . He's cute, but 15 year old boy cute, IMHO. No one really jumps out for me yet on the show. But I know I'll keep watching. . . Off to watch Canadian Idol. |
Bracken | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 08:01 pm     I haven't seen Eric before, but I wouldn't be surprised if he has been on something else. He looks like an old boyfriend (fond memories), but I'm not too crazy about his bio -- the boat is ok, but I'm not so sure I'd want to hang with Jimmy Buffet. It's obvious I haven't a clue cause I thought for sure she would cut Munch, I would have -- the name is just so wrong. Glad that Richard was not selected and have no really strong feelings about the rest of them yet. Although one of the Chad's is just so good looking. It does look like they act out just like the Bachelorette guys next week. Did anybody catch the disclaimer at the end of the show? Looks like the $2 million annuity will be paid out over 40 years, wasn't the $1 million going to paid out over 20? So, if my recollection is correct, no additional money per year, just 20 additional years. Can anyone verify this change from 20 to 40? You are right Herm, someone selected to stay did say something about the money, but not sure if that was Wade, I have taped it so will check on who made the remark. Good spoiling. I was on the phone the majority of the show so couldn't help out, sorry. Maybe next week. |
Wink | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 08:26 pm     Chad V. Thomas Wade Yummmmmmmmmm. |
Spwisc | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 09:03 pm     Jasonfan, I think your right!!!!! I remember Eric on "Meet the Folks"!!! She totally messed up keeping Munch over Chris, maybe she should wear glasses. Chris is a total hottie with a good personality. It will be hard to watch the show without him |
Patches07 | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 09:40 pm     Jasonfan is right! Eric's name is Eric Ferch and he was on "Meet My Folks". He was runner-up and in an interview he said something like he would never be on another dating show that was televised! |
Seamonkey | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 10:00 pm     I thought she kept one guy with really unfortunate fugly facial hair and I don't mean Munch, though his is also unfortunate as well. Can't remember the other name but I'm sure he's proud of his little patch so we'll see it next week. I think the rings just make it harder.. and no.. the million in the first show was also to be paid out over 40 years.. so actually an annuity for $2mill for 40 years would cost them less than two separate annuities. Wonder what the lump sum on this one would be. Yikes.. previews of them being buffoons.. and the guy I referred to with the REALLY unfortunate facial hair was on the preview with a backward ballcap.. SEND THIS GUY HOME NEXT... |
Texannie | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 10:05 pm     So glad to know I am not crazy! LOL Thanks Patches and Jasonfan! did a search I really remember him now! LOL http://www.fansofrealitytv.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4954 Interview with Eric Ferch, Winner of the Scantlins Episode Post #1 Joined: Sep 2002 Location: Minnesoooota FORT: Hi Eric, thanks for agreeing to an interview with us. Congratulations on winning the trip to Hawaii on the Scantlins episode for Meet My Folks. You were quite impressive during the stand-up comedy challenge. Do you have any experience with comedy or otherwise on stage? EF: No, I don't have any experience with any stand up comedy, but I've listened to Chris Rock and Jerry Seinfeld enough times to do their routines verbatim. I try to be funny, quirky guy at bars and as such, I have lied to girls I've met, saying that I have done amateur night stand up in the past. Better to be a fake somebody than a real nobody, right? FORT: I think you're a real somebody, Eric. You seem really sweet. Have you been in contact with Melana or anyone else from the show since it aired? EF: I talk to Melana about every two weeks or so. She is a very sweet person, and a nice soul. Even though she dismissed me on national TV, I'm not going to hate on her. Honestly, she was telling the truth: there wasn't chemistry between us, because the show is about having fun, not finding a love connection. I have not spoken to either Brook or Apple since the show, but both would be great to go out and have a beer with. FORT: Had you ever seen Meet My Folks when it was on last summer and did you know what to expect? Would you recommend this to a friend? EF: I did watch it last year and knew of the dreaded lie detector test. Before the show, they told us the lie detector wasn't necessarily going to be part of this year's show, but as seen, it obviously was. As far as recommendation: it depends on what the goal of being on the show was for an individual. My biggest fault was the fact that I won; 'winners curse.' If I had lost, I would have been shown in a much more positive light, much like Giancarlo from last year's episode. Thus, if a friend wanted to go on the show, but cared how they were perceived, I would strongly urge them to try to be eliminated first. FORT: Why did the producers pick two guys named Eric to be on the same episode, and who decided to call Eric Apple "Apple" for the show? EF: I think the casting directors and/or producers thought that, regardless of name, the two of us were so radically different that we would be a great contrast for the show. Unfortunately, the show was only an hour, because Apple and I had great banter throughout the filming. I was trying to suck-up to the parents, and Apple had witty retorts on the insincerity of my commentary. I guess 'Apple' made more sense than 'Ferch.' FORT: Brook seemed rather quiet. Why did he volunteer to kiss Dad? EF: That was the least of three evils in my opinion. That would have been my choice as well. I thought I had the worst task (even worse than the butt grab of the mom), because I came off as an inconsiderate guy, rather that a strange guy. And as mentioned by someone else, in Minnesota, being courteous is second to Godliness. It was difficult, but I was a team player. FORT: Whose idea was it for Apple to "sabotage" you by dragging your shoes through the mud and smearing them on the rug? EF: As far as I know, it was Apple's idea. The producers told us before we went in that all is fair in love and war and reality tv, and any means necessary to gain advantage was not only accepted, but encouraged. Up until the show aired, I had assumed that the producers planted the shoe; Apple had a great poker face, but why he lied on the lie detector test on that question is beyond me. FORT: When I saw the episode, I was fully convinced that you were being honest when you told Melana about your virginity. Why did you flunk the lie detector test for that question? Was it just nerves about being questioned about that aspect of your life? EF: Regarding the most hotly discussed question of virginity.....Yes, I am a virgin! Though I didn't say anything to the parents about it. The questions are written by the producers, not the parents. That was one of the hooks that got me on the show, the fact that I am obviously different than everyone else. My reasoning and rationale for agreeing to do MMF was more altruistic that just seeing my face on TV. I was attempting to prove that it's not only non-personality losers who are virgins. For some people, it's a choice. For me, it's a choice. I'm neither proud, nor ashamed of the fact that I'm a virgin, but if I can positively impact one person who wants to have sex solely because of peer pressure, I will have succeeded. BTW, I am a Christian and creating a testimony was the main thing I wanted to accomplish. Regarding Melana, she was very happy with the fact that I was a virgin (though most likely lost in the show due to the overall theme), they didn't cut a "you don't often meet a Casanova Virgin" excerpt from Melana. She is also a Christian (we had a long discussion off camera the night Brook was eliminated) and is interested in meeting a Christian, though not necessarily a virgin, guy. Regarding the question, why I failed it, that's easy: The nature of the question condemned me. The ambiguity of many of the questions leads people to inadvertently lie. I actually failed the question "did you drink beer and track mud into the house?" TWICE. I am generally a pretty cynical person, and thus, when someone is questioning me, I guess I tend to tense up. As to the legitimacy of my answer, I guess it's my word against the lie detector, but I stand by my answer. FORT: That makes perfect sense. You're a good skater as any former Minnesotan should be. So, which is it, hockey or figure skating? EF: I've actually only been on skates about 5 times, and the last time was about 10 years ago, so to hear you say I looked ok on skates makes me feel good. I guess they figured since I was from Minnesota, I was born with skates on. You betcha. The fall was fake in order to get Melana to the ground for a kiss. Pretty pathetic attempt, but you do what you have to. FORT: I thought it was sweet. Did you get any choice in what type of activity to do on your date? EF: No. The producers asked me if I could skate and after saying, "not really, but I can ankle around the rink," it was settled. FORT: Have you been on any other dating shows and would you ever? EF: I haven't been on any other shows and have no intention of doing dating shows that are televised nationally. FORT: Your brother Chris told me that he's going to be on Fifth Wheel. Did you inspire him to check out the world of reality tv dating or was it the other way around? EF: His show filmed and aired before mine, so I guess it was he who introduced me to the world of dating shows. I think I'm one up on him, being on NBC rather than syndication, but he made out with three girls, so the public has to decide who's the better reality dating show Ferch. FORT: Do you have a third brother? That could be another episode of Meet My Folks, have a single lady choose a date from three Ferches. How did you feel about Chris' tape that made you out to be a big crybaby? EF: I didn't care at all. Chris and I have a great relationship and he could have subjected me to much worse than being a cry baby. He knows all the demons in my closet, and being a sensitive guy isn't really too criminal, despite what the dad said. FORT: How did YOUR folks react to seeing the show, and do you think they would agree to be on an episode with women competing for a date with you? EF: My Folks were proud of the way I handled myself and definitely believe me over the lie detector test. They were genuinely relieved when it aired, for I had prepared them for the worst. I guess relative to the other two, I came across as an angel, in my parents eyes at least. Whether they'd consider being the parents on a show with women, they might be too conservative to hear some of the contestants sordid pasts. That said, my mom has an energy about her that would serve her very well on the show. FORT: What was the best thing that happened during filming that wasn't shown on the episode? EF: After denying that he exposed himself in public, Apple was busted for mooning the hidden camera. He dropped his trousers in point blank range of the camera and Brook narc'd him out to the parents on a tape. That definitely got a lot of laughs with us, and I just wish it made it on the final cut. That's my $0.02 from the episode, let me know if you have further questions. Thanks for hearin'. Thanks so much for agreeing to this interview and for joining us at the Meet My Folks forum at http://www.fansofrealitytv.com . |
Jasonfan | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 10:07 pm     Patches07-- if we have the right guy, he also mentioned in that interview that he is a virgin (or at least was at the time of the MMF gig). He won the trip, but the girl liked the other two guys much better. |
Texannie | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 10:11 pm     it's him..found a pic http://www.fansofrealitytv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4807 |
Patches07 | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 10:16 pm     You are welcome Texannie, It was driving me crazy because I knew that I had seen him somewhere before. Jasonfan, I think that you are right, I just didn't remember him being the winner. |
Hermione69 | Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 03:24 am     Well, you guys are one up on me! I saw that episode and have no recollection of him whatsoever (I just remember the shoes and the mud)!! He talks very intelligently, but I have to be skeptical of people who are recycled by the dating show circuits!! Bracken, the only reason I felt she would pick Munch is because we were being led to believe she wouldn't. LOL! |
Spwisc | Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 04:17 am     I scanned down the page a bit and seen this... sounds like it really could be him?? Hey everyone, I'm Eric from the most recent Meet my Folks show (the dork who won as opposed to Apple). I was asked to contribute so I figured I'd go ahead and clear some things up. Not to defend myself or actions (I'm more comfortable w/ myself than that), but as a means to help give you a 'behind the editing table' sense of what went on. First off, we filmed for over three days, and the producers have the ability to cut and slice anything and everything; they have the ability to make you into anyone they want, and they manipulate everything. As is well documented in this site, the lie detector test is not very reliable. The other permeating commentary from the show (poor brook) was also blown out of proportion. I don't doubt that Melana had feelings for him, but again ask yourself: What makes good tv?...Having surprise twists and turns, and her feelings, though sincere, were exaggerated for television. I'm not player hating, but basically every word Brook said the entire weekend was included in the show. He is a very quiet guy and doesn't have an outgoing personality. In fact, he was using this as a platform to 'get noticed' (by the way, for anyone expecting such results, I wouldn't put much stock in it). He's also been on "america's sexiest bachelors" and "blind date." Again, sorry for possibly sounding bitter (not my intention), it's just that there is so much more than meets the eye on the show. In the end, I'm the only one still talking to Melana (no, we haven't taken the trip to Hawaii), and to paraphrase Good Will Hunting "I got her number, how you like them apples." (OK, I concede that comment is ego based). I do enjoy the banter. |
Spwisc | Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 04:19 am     Also this one: Thanks for the encouragement from some, and thanks for the angst from others. I truly appreciate your candor and getting the general sense from the show. I obviously see the show through a filtered lense, and all my friends either say I did great or play me out, depending on the relationship I have with them. Regarding the most hotly discussed question of virginity.....Yes, I am a virgin! Though I didn't say anything to the parents about it. The questions are not created by the parents, rather, they are determined by the producers of the show; the parents are just pawns asking away. That was one of the hooks that got me on the show, the fact that I am obviously different than everyone else. My reasoning and rationale for agreeing to do MMF was more altruistic that just seeing my face on TV. I was attempting to prove that it's not only non-personality losers who are virgins. For some people, it's a choice. For me, it's a choice. I'm neither proud, nor ashamed of the fact that I'm a virgin, but if I can positively impact one person who wants to have sex solely because of peer pressure, I will have succeeded. BTW, I am a Christian and creating a testimony was the main thing I wanted to accomplish. Regarding Melana, she was very happy with the fact that I was a virgin (though most likely lost in the show due to the overall theme), they didn't cut a "you don't often meet a Casanova Virgin" excerpt from Melana. She is also a Christian (we had a long discussion off camera the night Brook was eliminated) and is interested in meeting a Christian, though not necessarily a virgin, guy. Other editing from the show: Niki isn't even an ex girlfriend, she's a good friend; I don't have a gambling problem; although I did cry when I was a 15 yr. old umpire for little league baseball when a coach went off on me, I don't routinely cry, though I am a relatively sensitive guy. The butt thing is kinda true, but it's all in good fun. Hope that helps clear some things up. Eric |
Bracken | Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 06:14 am     Well, I can't believe you folks found so much information on Eric on night one, lol. A virgin, huh, at least this show doesn't include descriptions of that nature below their first name, like on AR. Otherwise, henceforth he would be known as Virgin Boy. It will be interesting to see if this fact comes up and what the other men do with this information -- can't wait for that. Thanks Sea, I thought it was 20 years. Also can't find the other "unfortunate facial hair" guy, I think it might be Deric (?) but he doesn't have any in the NBC photo. Back to the important stuff, are there any accountants out there watching this show? Now I'm curious as to what this annuity, either $1 or $2 is worth (cash value) in today's market. Herm, you would think I would have figured the Munch/Chris selection out with all the reality shows I watch, but I just find his looks and his name disturbing and thought she couldn't possibly pick him. Chris must have made a major faux pas during their tete-a-tete during the barbeque. After looking at the bios posted at NBC, Munch is just a goof and not all that witty either, more importantly, he's a bartender (I know she doesn't know this, but no contest on which he would choose in the end.) I'm sure he is attempting to play the Bob role, but he's no Bob, and I loved Chris' bio. Oh well, ten down, nine to go. I was going to predict Eric and Chad V for the finals just based on physical appearance, but with the virginity issue looming, he may get cut soon. Did anybody else just love all of the ironing. I don't remember seeing any of that on the Bachelorette. I can't wait for next week. |
Lauram | Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 06:37 am     I think she thought Chris was in it for the money. At the end didn't she say something like ... Chris was really sweet. The idea of falling in love is great, but so is the money. The funny thing is, Chris is listed as an entrapeneur and I got the impression that he has plenty of money. He really wanted love. I think she made a big mistake!! |
Realbiz | Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 08:44 am     anyone else surprised that erin sent richard home first? i thought she liked him, even though he seemed a bit into the money. |
Brenda1966 | Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 09:14 am     I agree that Erin made a big mistake in keeping Munch and not keeping Chris. Chris seemed to sincerely like her and Munch just seems icky. He may be chubby like Bob, but he's no Bob! Eric and Chad V were simply adorable. I think they'll hang around a long time if Eric keeps that virgin thing a secret. A virgin?! Give me a break?! I'm having bad flash backs to when I dated a 30-something virgin. NEVER again. I think the guy with the facial hair was Vic or something like that. Kind of a bad boy look. Lots of cute men here -- I'll be watching... |
Rslover | Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 10:29 am     I knew I had seen Eric somewhere before too! I also thought she would have gotten rid of that Munch. |
Bbfanatic | Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 11:16 am     i knew i had seen eric before. it ate away at me last night while watching the show. |
Bracken | Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 01:18 pm     For all those Chris fans, you should read his responses to the three questions posed as opposed to some of these other losers. You're right Lauram he is listed as an entrepreneur and Munch (I even hate typing it, lol) is a bartender. I'm sure he must have said or did something that turned her off during their private conversation -- not that we will ever know. Oh well, plenty more where he came from, I'm liking Wade, too. |
Babyjaxmom | Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 08:24 pm     Me, too, I was definitely shocked when she picked "Munch" over Chris, who really seemed to like her. He was the only one of the five guys booted who didn't talk more about losing the money than the girl. Too bad! I wonder how Erin felt when she saw that on TV? I thought the asking for the ring back thing was awful. It's like she had to break up with five different guys all in one night. Painful! |
Bracken | Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 12:33 pm     Agree Babyjax. I think the ring component is a little too personal. Maybe a bracelet, although many men don't and won't wear them, I think the ring is a bit over the top. I noticed, but don't recall now that one of those dismissed had in on his left hand (did that mean he was more committed, lol). Can't wait to see how they make fools of themselves next week with the wrestling match in the living room. And, of course, to see them all in tuxedos again. |
Lurknomore | Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 04:53 pm     Ok...I finally came over to see if you all were talking about this show. I watched out of curiosity to see if this version would be worth watching. And I nearly freaked out. That Munch guy looked and to a degree acted so much like my dead boyfriend I near fell outta my chair. And his nickname was VERY similar (he at least had a reason for one, being a pro athlete). Part of me is really looking foward to seeing and hearing him talk more...and part is scared by it. |
Surealityjunkie | Monday, July 21, 2003 - 04:30 pm     http://www.realitynewsonline.com/cgi-bin/ae.pl?mode=1&article=article3363.art&page=1 FYI... Just found this today... ‘For Love or Money 2’ Eric and his Previous ‘Meet My Folks’ Experience by David Bloomberg -- 07/21/2003 Does Eric from For Love or Money look familiar? If you’re a regular viewer of Meet My Folks, he should – he was on the show in February. Find out what he was like there and what me might expect for him now. |
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