Archive through September 11, 2003
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Archive through September 11, 2003
Tdot | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 03:26 am     I'm sure this must have come up already but I was thinking... Did anybody else notice that although it's not acceptable to threaten physical abuse as Zack did to Keith, all of the verbal abuse spewing from their mouths and the mental abuse certain PH guests have had to endure IS acceptable? It's a sad but true reality that is a perfect representation of our society. |
Mich | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 04:12 am     i've been trying to figure out how it will end as most of you have. but what I've seen on a couple of sites has changed my whole perspective.: if you want to see the article click here: Season Finale or quoting the article: "FOX has announced that the two-hour season finale of "Paradise Hotel" has been rescheduled and will now air Wednesday, October 1 (8-10 PM ET/PT.) was supposed to end Sept 24th though. During the finale, paradise will get even more treacherous as the past will come back one final time to haunt the four remaining hotel guests. The former guests will check back in and play judge and jury, determining which couple will win the grand prize. And just like previous episodes of "Paradise Hotel," a shocking final twist will put trust and relationships to the ultimate test." So, is there really any point for dave, charla, keith and tara to continue if the mean originals are the ones deciding their fate???? |
Dogdoc | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 04:31 am     I wonder if Scott is changing sides. He walked away when Beau complained to Dave that he was "whispering" to Scott at the table. I hope he does. Was that Holly or Melanie that read the question to Charla about her crying? That smirk and laugh as she read it was to say the least annoying. I wish Amy would stop doing that stupid head-shake thing.Why do I aggrevate myself by watching these people! I don't like Beau being back. Desiree has become like the other dark siders. I think Tom made up a lame excuse to pick Tara over her because he actually prefers Tara. Since when is living alone a strong position. These people really get to me! Go Dave, Keith, Charla and Tara. |
Tagurit | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 04:44 am     Thanks DeeSandy and Sureality for the recaps! I was flipping between this and BB last night. It didn't really bother me not to watch every minute of PH last night. Amy needs to be brought down a few notches. She is nuts. Beau is an idiot. You know, when D/T/C/K had the power, they never acted the way the morons do. Yes, they did have a few gloating moments but not over the top like the morons. They are just so stupid looking, IMO. Desiree is pathetic. I really don't like her. It should be interesting next week. I was confused about the elimination. I guess both nights will find people leaving. Making up for no one leaving this week. I would love for Amanda to tell Amy she too has to leave as she has threatened people, to their faces and behind their backs, one to many times. |
Jasper | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 06:08 am     Re: Tom, he does at times appear to sit on the fence, but was he not the one last night saying how he hated Dave and wanted to cut his head off...I beleive he was speaking to Beau. I actually thought it was a good move on Tom's part to pick Tara, you never know what Fox may come up with now considering Desiree is on her own, maybe they will throw in the you pick someone and no one else can, but why she would merit immunity is beyond me. Don't get me wrong, I am 100% behind the Barbies to take this thing, the "Others" are some of the most disturbed people I have ever seen. The thing with Alex and Dave's ears, I think he should have been tossed right then, that whole scene was repugnant. Where these people get off thinking that they are so much better and deserving than these four people is ridiculous. Charla, Tara, Keith and the wonderful Dave can stand firm in knowing that they did not resort to the sort of ignorant behaviour that the others portrayed. I'm actually beginning to think Scott realizes how infantile his "friends" really are. We'll put Holly in that category as well, she is the epitome of a follower. And what's with Desiree? It seems like she did that whole show with Dave for Amy's benefit, see Amy see, I'm on your side, like me like me. Why she would feel that Amy would be a person to align yourself with with her snotty attitude, puleze. And Beau, he can't really have watched the tapes if he thinks Zach is his best friend. Did he have blinders on while viewing....does he not realize who was behind his eviction...his friends. It will be interesting to see who goes next week, let's just hope Desiree doesn't get the power to pick them, that would be totally unfair. |
Laura11103 | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 06:43 am     Okay, I should know this but humor me. When is this taking place? Are they on paradise right now or did this happen already? I was under the impression this is sort of live, but then I thought I heard everyone is out of the hotel already. Please help. Thanks. |
Mygetaway | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 07:09 am     Here's what this show has done to me.. I was actually happy when Amy hit her head. How bad is that??? YIKES! How dumb is she diving into the pool like that anyway? (They were in the real shallow pool) She's lucky she didn't break her neck. As bad as this show is, I can't help but watch and want to know who will win. I was also thinking that the eliminated person gets to pick someone to take with them. So, say if Tara was to go, she could take out Amy. That would be d-e-l-i-c-i-o-u-s. Laura, I'm thinking they were probably about 2 weeks ahead in taping, but I have no clue really. |
Realfan | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 08:00 am     This show is NOT FUN ANYMORE. It gives me indigestion. Unless they kick off THREE people, and they're all originals, I won't watch it. That would even the score. Otherwise, It's too painful to see adults ganging up on other people in full-on warfare. The returning bootees really poisoned the pool. Now it's open season on the Barbies. And the idea of the bootees returning AGAIN?? Can't they think of something better to end this show, like a live phone-in vote to determine the winners? Even if it's filmed ahead, it could be done. Have a reunion show and reveal the winner. And this show started out being all about the public participation. Back in the day. When it was another type of show. Cute, welcome to our world. The BB side of posting overwhelms me, there are so many threads. That's the section that pulled me into this board three years ago (in the Dr. Will days), but I can't follow it online these days. Still watch it, though. Anyway, I could have written your post, but you already did! Doesn't Amy make you feel hate you didn't think you could feel for TV people? And isn't Charla precious? I want to adopt her! Melanie can HAVE Amy. Maybe she'll accidentally leave her at a supermarket. <<Did anybody else notice that although it's not acceptable to threaten physical abuse as Zack did to Keith, all of the verbal abuse spewing from their mouths and the mental abuse certain PH guests have had to endure IS acceptable? >> It seems to be on a case-by-case basis. Meaning, if another guest complains, as Keith did, they have to act. Because before the Zack Attack, Toni was threatening to drown Dave in the pool and Amy was going to push someone (Keith, I think) down the stairs. These people are--can I say trailer trash on the board? Low class, in any case. Bottom feeders. What's up with Tom, I echo the question? If he's now part of the Evil Ones, I no longer think he's cute! Smokey will always be cute, however, especially his velcro hands. <<I think Tom made up a lame excuse to pick Tara over her because he actually prefers Tara. Since when is living alone a strong position. >> Maybe. But the Fab Four didn't seem to think so. They just thought he was dumb. I think it was Tom's attempt to play the game, but he's clueless as to how. The only time a single had the power was when they were new, and given immunity and an "old person" had to go. A rule change made because the Evil Ones were kicking off all of the new people. But Desiree is hardly new anymore, so I hope she's toast. <<I wonder if Scott is changing sides. He walked away when Beau complained to Dave that he was "whispering" to Scott at the table. >> I think that's just more of Scott's Switzerland behavior. He removes himself from conflict so as to remain neutral. Mygetaway, me, too!! I laughed when I realized Amy had dived into the shallow end! It's so fitting, as these people are so incredibly shallow. And didn't she look so "prittee" with that ice bag on her head? We can only hope she and Zack remove themselves from the gene pool through such idiot behavior before they breed. What's with the Melanie/Amy lovefest? Since when were they such big buds? I didn't see the first two eps, but geez, Melanie has no taste. She's 30 or 31, too. You'd think she'd value maturity in a person. Sadly, I think Tom, Desiree, and Melanie are lost causes. I hear the show is two weeks ahead. |
Maryk | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 09:09 am     The last few weeks watching this show has caused my blood pressure to rise like no other TV show. I can't believe how mean these people are. I'm really disappointed at Desiree and Tom. Don't they realize who the "bad" people are. Holly too is a follower. Scott seems disturbed by this but seems to afraid to go against his "friends." All of them except the Fab 4 especially Amy and Beau are acting like spoiled bullies. Doesn't Beau realize that his "friends" engineered his ouster? I don't think I can watch this anymore if all of the Fab 4 are eliminated. |
Kalekona | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 09:56 am     ok i did some watching of the yahoo platinum thing, behind the seasons, unaired or partically aired video and all i can say is Toni and Amy need antiphycotics.. And yes both made pyshical threars on more than one occation and amy does that girl ever shut up? screeching at the top of her lungs the same drivel over and over and this "don't interrupt me" thing the originals have but fail to understand that it should work both ways. On another board someone said you could see the real Tom on those videos but i didn't find it last night. (and am stuck at work today with no audio) The way the show is editting things and showing the lies from the originals as the accuse the barbies makes me want to believe there is comupence in the future for the children. Here's to the adult behavior of the Barbies (i think i would have b!tch slapped amy already)and their restraint. I can say enough how angry these people make me (and make the BB house look like Sunday School) Why do the originals think any of the new pwoplw should do what they wanted? And allow themselves to be sent home in the end? Amy kept going on and on to Keith (right after Zack left) how THEY told him what to do and he did just the opposite (duh!!) and he could have had so much fun if had done what they said and get rid of DAVE. And blah blah blah.. And Toni saying they never plotted and sceamed but admits they all wanted Charla off since day one.. why? Because she didn't come down and act like a tramp. There better be a good ending to this because otherwise i honestly think i'm done with reality tv.. i'm tierd of nasty people being rewarded for being horrible. (you can play all these games without getting into name calling and vile talk) but remember people this is FOX and as AI showed us. FOX ruins everything!!!!! |
Just4fun | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 02:08 pm     I heard that you can pay to get live feeds of PH. If this is true, does anyone know of a site that people are posting what is happening such as they do for Big Brother???? |
Tagurit | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 02:15 pm     Just4fun, there aren't any live feeds like BB. What Kalekona was talking about is Yahoo Platinum. It just shows everything that happened during a particular scene that they edited out on TV. Kalekona and Sureality will have to tell you everything else you get with the Yahoo membership. Laura, my understanding is that it is done taping. All are home. Someone here even posted part of a Boston Herald article regarding Dave and being back in Boston. I think he had said in the article that there were 8 shows still to be aired. Or something like that. |
Deesandy | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 02:28 pm     Now that we know that they cannot win Paradise Island, and there is a big twist at the end, I have been thinking...maybe they will make the "winners" chose money over friendship. Example: You can win this $$$ if you sign a contract stating you will never speak to so&so again! Seems to be the trend with reality shows these days. If that is the case, I hope the Fab Four are not put in that position! |
Auntiemike | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 03:07 pm     I know some of you have e-mailed Dave and gotten a response. Does anyone have an e-mail address for Amy or Toni? I think I would like to give them a piece of my mind in a style to which they are accustomed! |
Amari | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 03:11 pm     If the producers of this show care about public opinion, they will not let the "originals" win. It was blatantly unfair to allow them to come back after they were fairly booted off. The twist needs to be something to compensate the Fab 4 for the injustice done to them. I watch too much reality tv and had no intentions of getting hooked on this one but somehow I did and it was so wonderful watching Toni et al get their comeuppance and get kicked out. Then they drag them all back and we got treated to several shows of unrelenting hostility, bullying, hypocrisy - everything ugly. I promise Fox if the Fab 4 lose because of your dirty little machinations, I will never watch anything on your sorry network again (and I really love the Simpsons LOL). |
Deesandy | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 03:29 pm     I agree Amari, if this doesn't have a happy ending, it is the end of Fox for me too! |
Dogdoc | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 04:05 pm     The only way I can regain my sanity after watching one of these episodes is to come here and read the posts. Are there any psychologists out there to explain why these house guests upset us so much? I try not to feel hate when thinking about these people but when watching them, that is all I feel.It is like being trapped in a high school hallway while bullies treat the nice kids with cruelty.They are smug and obnoxious and they have delusions of grandeur. Of course, I am talking about the hard core dark side. I want them to go. |
Grooch | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 05:52 pm     If you were forced to spend a week at Paradise Hotel with either Amy or Toni, who would you choose and why? |
Heyltslori | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 05:56 pm     Toni. And there just might be an unfortunate pool accident.  |
Grooch | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 05:57 pm     That's my daughter!  |
Tagurit | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 06:04 pm     LOL HeyItsLori!! Before I even read your response, I was thinking the same thing only with Amy! lol Dogdoc - I am afraid a psychologist would tell us we are all nuts because we get sucked into these reality shows. |
Deesandy | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 06:05 pm     I would choose Amy. I am not ready to meet the devil. |
Surealityjunkie | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 06:26 pm     Okay, Dogdoc check this out... I took a professional development session once on the personality test "True Colors" and learned something very interesting... When you do a test that tells you what type of person you are (feelings person, black/white -- no grey area person, organized/structured person, adventurous/straightforward person) you find out some interesting things about yourself too. What they told us is -- the part of your personality that you scored lowest on is what annoys you the most in another person because it is what you are most uncomfortable with within yourself... does that make sense? So, for me, because I am a "blue" (feelings person), and my lowest score was for "orange" (adventurous/impulsive) people who are overly "orange" annoy the crud out of me... and my guess is that most of the "orginals" are orange... I hardly think they are any of the other descriptions. If you are interested in reading the other personality traits, check out this site: http://www.truecolors.org/About/AboutTCMeaning.htm |
Surealityjunkie | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 06:30 pm     I read on the official PH site that someone saw Keith at an Ohio State (I believe) football game during the opening weekend. That would lead me to believe they have been out of the house about 3 weeks now... |
Costacat | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 07:51 pm     I would choose Amy cause Toni could kick my butt OUTTA Paradise! And yes, I agree... these people's sense of self-entitlement just *amazes* me. If the "originals" do not get their comeuppance at the end, Fox is permanently deleted from watch list. |
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