Archive through August 10, 2003
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Archive through August 10, 2003
Iceprincess | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 11:01 am     Realfan, Rocco decided that Gideon just wasn't needed and sent him home. IMO it was just plain rude to ask him to come out there to begin with. He needs some kind of HR to help this situation, I hope that Gideon has some kind of legal recourse somewhere... |
Yankee_In_Ca | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 11:28 am     OK, I didn't watch this show -- I gave up on it after the first episode -- but I have to say that Linda Stasi is the TV CRITIC at the Post, not a FOOD critic -- whic should tell you everything you need to know about the priorities of this "restaurant." Blah. |
Reader234 | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 08:26 pm     Thanks for posting the review!! Oh, and i've seen Rocco and Mama on so much of daytime TV, perhaps it was there that they talked about the fact Linda was a TV Critic... anyway Mama and Rocco, and the Rest. come off much better on daytime talk shows than on this "reality" tv. I hated the way Rocco was treating the waiter, the only reason these waiters stay on is the Cameras!! I wondered where the patrons signed releases!! LOL I'm sure they will edit in the proposal sooner or later!! OH and one night didnt Rocco say he comped a lot of the meals? (and 30% off too - that would go a long way to ease the fact the food is cold, and the service is slow or wrong!! But the tv critic mentioned one of their entrees was $25 and how long did they wait? So it just doesnt seam "real" will last long!! |
Cjr | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 09:02 pm     I wonder if Gideon or Rocco has heard of "Worker's Compensation?" In California had we just sent an employee home after an injury and not given him paperwork or gotten him to a Dr. we would be in big trouble. Does anyone know the state laws on this in New York? Talk about a big lawsuit. Then calling him back in to work and sending him home again?? Even worse. The shocked looks Gideon was giving Rocco when being shrugged off sure seemed real. If not he is a good actor. |
Max | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 09:23 pm     I think that's why Gideon kept saying, "Does he realize that I feel in his kitchen?" and similar statements when he was leaving. However, I'm willing to bet that there are a LOT of waivers signed by each and every one of the "players" on this show. I mean, if they are making the CUSTOMERS sign waivers, imagine what they made the employees do! The whole place seems to be run in a very disorganized manner so far. The wait staff is right - there is no identity for the place and that's a problem. I think one customer said something about the calamari being $65 a plate. For that price, if it arrived in a paper boat, I'd be pissed off. But then, maybe that's what folks are used to in New York. I wouldn't know. I just figure that for $65 for one entree (or was it an appetizer portion, I don't remember), I expect a MUCH different dining experience than what I'm seeing on this show. Yes, it's contrived as heck, but it is entertaining. |
Iceprincess | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 09:54 pm     I have to say if I was eating there I would be highly disappointed. I would have a hard time paying $25 for a meal served in a paper boat...and the noise would drive me nuts, it is way too noisy in there. If I signed a waiver, Rocco would definately be getting a piece of my mind...and the waite staff would be getting a big shout out (and a decent tip) for all their hard work! You can't tell me NY is full of cheapskates...it has to be just those who sign the waivers. |
Scribe | Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 04:41 am     Ryn - Kudos for finding the review of the show and of the restaurant by Stasi - I searched and searched before I posted above and had little luck !!!! I am rather surprised by how benign her review of the restaurant was - she sure looked unhappy on the show/in the restaurant! Love the show - |
Ocean_Islands | Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 05:23 am     Thanks for clearing that up about Stasi. I for one was shocked that a restaurant critic would allow her face to be shown on national television. Restaurant critics must remain strictly anonymous to properly evaluate a restaurant. |
Ocean_Islands | Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 06:15 am     Could someone please post a link to that original review? Are you sure it's real? |
Ocean_Islands | Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 06:21 am     It's ok, I found it but you have to pay for it: link |
Babyruth | Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 06:35 am     Here's a link to a reprint of the article in full: Whine and Dine And here's a followup article by Linda Stasi: NY Post |
Reader234 | Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 09:10 am     Thanks for that followup babyruth, ummm did it sound like she was "sucking up" at all? It really didnt seem to mirror her 'on camera' feed back to me. I guess I'm missing something!! lol or maybe I just think it would be funnier to get a lil more 'reality' in - I mean mama could come over and ask her to try again another day, and show her 2nd experiences!! |
Gemma120in2002 | Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 10:25 am     They doubted that Gideon has a broken arm because he didn' have a cast. They didn't ask him if he had any written diagnosis from the hospital, Gideon didn't offer any written diagnosis either, and there was no mention of Workman's Compensation for the injury. Rocco sent Gideon home, then Laurent called him back in to work, then Rocco sent him home again acting as though Gideon was a moron for showing up. Nobody seems to want to listen to the wait staff at all, but Rocco doesn't have any problem making negative and disparaging comments about the wait staff to the customers when something goes wrong. Rather than telling the customers that there is a problem with the order processing equipment, and that he would be happy to pick up the check and give them a free dinner a month from that day, when all the bugs would definately be worked out. But no, he instead falls into the old blame game, and targets one of his best, most personable waiters as the source of the problem. Even when the waiter goes to the kitchen to put in the order personally, they blame him for the problem. It would serve Rocco right if all of his F-up wait staff would just stop what they are doing and walk out the front door and let him pick up the slack. |
Weenerlobo | Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 11:05 am     While watching Rocco's weird and destructive behavior on this last show, dh kept muttering to himself, "That's why chefs shouldn't own, that's why chefs shouldn't own, that's why . . . " He was cracking me up! He's been around the bar/restaraunt business most of his life, so this was one reality tv show he was interested in. Was. I enjoy it for the high road-kill factor. |
Gina8642 | Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 12:16 pm     Just a little info on elbow injuries from personal experience. I have managed to break both my elbows (in separate incidents - thank goodness!!) Both were minor breaks, but still caused a good deal of pain. It's hard to remeber the first break. I believe it wasn't casted at all. I think I wore an ace bandage and a sling for a few weeks. I hated the sling because it made my shoulder hurt, it was easier just to hold the arm to myself. The only good thing about a sling is it keeps people away from your arm. I remember the second time better. After I broke the left arm, they waited one day to put 'cast' on it. So, the fact that Gideon didn't have a cast, didn't mean much to me. My break was really minor and they ended up creating a brace of cast material. (I had to take their word for it when they pointed out the fracture while looking at the x-ray.) Under the arm and around the elbow was cast material. It was held to my arm by ace bandage. I had to wear it two weeks. However, I could upwrap the ace bandage and take the brace off for showers. They told me to wait as long as I could stand before doing this - I think I made it a week. The bruising was absolutely amazing. Blueberry bruising all over my elbow and arm. I remember not being able to sleep because of the pain. I found I couldn't take the codiene they gave me, so I pretty much didn't take anything. (Yes, that was stupid - live and learn.) Anyway, it was probably 6 months before I was 100%pain free. I think I could do most stuff with little pain or difficulty within about 2 months? It was in college. I had a minor amount of physical therapy. I remember them being very concerned that I would never play tennis again. I kept telling them, I never had played tennis, so it didn't really matter to me. LOL Not sure if I could have lifted food trays right away, like a waiter has to do. By how well Gideon was moving getting dressed, I'd say his injury would be closer to my first break. If this was the real world - he should apply for workmen's comp and just stay home for a few weeks. Maybe go to a few auditions. But - seeing that his point for being on the show, is getting his face out there; he should conintue as he is, he's one of the best stories going so far with this show. LOL BTW - learned tennis a few years ago, no problem. LOL |
Hoosiergirl | Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 09:47 am     While I admit that smoozing is a necessary part of owning and operating a restaurant, one would think that if one had a NY Post "food" critic in the house, one's priority would be to micromanage their order, i.e., actually IN the kitchen preparing it and personally delivering it their table. Instead, Rocco was more concerned with getting his ego (and various body parts) stroked by various women. Course it could have been the editing.  |
Kuke | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 11:30 pm     Max, I was wondering the prices for food, too; got this link off the website. Restaurant Menu I think it's pretty cool/weird for a restaurant to have an online version of their current menu -- do any of y'all check out restaurant reviews/websites online to see what they have to offer and pricerange? Whenever I go out to eat, I feel blindsided by the menu and pricing -- it takes me long to order. I think it's cool to pick out what everyone likes prior and know how much it costs going in.. |
Texannie | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 07:00 am     Alot of restaurants here have web pages. It is great to be able to take a peak and decide if I want to go there and what the prices will be. The menu looks really good and the prices seem fair. |
Pamy | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 12:49 pm     Yes many places have their menus/prices online. Whenever we have get togethers the organizer will email out a few menus and everyone votes on what place we want to go to. It is a great idea, gets you in the mood for the place before you even get there. |
Pamy | Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 11:52 am     I found this site and it is kind of interesting www.bitterwaitress.com It has a gossip on celebs tipping and actions while dining. |
Scorpiomoon | Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 12:52 pm     Thanks for the link, Pamy! I'm reading through the stories right now. It's fascinating to read them--to read how "human" celebs are and to read how the servers respond to them. |
Pamy | Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 03:21 pm     I also like that the list the 'good' celeb stories too. |
Nathalia | Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 07:01 pm     Only 17 minutes into the show and it's the same old same old. Food is cold. Everyone complaining. Computer goes down loses people's orders. And Rocco when he goes and sits down with the customers he's very rude the way he sort of just pushes them over with his body..lol One of the kitchen guys slipped and fell on his back while carrying two cases of Coors. Bartender quit. No sign of Mama yet. |
Nathalia | Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 07:06 pm     They call Gideon to come in with a suit on. Show note from Gideon's landlord saying he still owes $750 in rent. He still has the sling on his arm. Gideon was told he was going to be working the front door. Cut to Rocco asking what he was doing in a suit. Gideon explains what was going on and Rocco says we don't want someone at the door reminding us of lifes tragedies (para). Rocco sends Gideon home!!!! |
Nathalia | Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 07:10 pm     Another staff meeting with Rocco. Staff complaining of them falling on wet areas and they have bruises to prove it. They want to be part of the dream but it's not a dream to them. They don't know how to carry Rocco. Rocco says he takes them seriously..thanks them. Bald headed guy wants to quit..the manager..can't think of his name. Funny thing is Rocco picks up knife...sees something on the handle and then proceeds to wipe it off and then puts his fingers all over the blade part. Rocco doesn't want him to quit..says if he quits..Rocco would have to quit. Rocco asks him if he's serious..he says he will have to think about it. |
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