Archive through February 12, 2003
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Archive through February 12, 2003
Grooch | Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 07:02 pm     Personally, I hate Puck with a white, hot, blind passion and the sooner he is gone, the better. He sucks the life force out of people and I am exhausted 5 minutes after watching him. I CANNOT WAIT TIL HE IS GONE!!!!!!!! I will try to refrain from saying anything else about him except for the fact of his looks. Did Blair say that he is 34????!!!!!!!!! He looks at least 44. I am really, really refraining of why I think he looks so much older than he is. Suffice to say, I do not like him one little bit. Though I do pity him. |
Grooch | Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 07:03 pm     Ahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! That felt good to get that out. |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 07:31 pm     It felt GOOD to read, too, Grooch!! ITA with every word. Hmm, well not too mucy pity here for him either. |
Grooch | Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 07:39 pm     LOL! Seamonkey. Thanks! I think we should start chanting to get rid of him. While we are at it, we should channel the Osbournes to make the chant more fun. ;) Sooooo........ Here it goes to get rid of him... <Mod(14)> |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 08:11 pm     <Mod(14)> |
Scribe | Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 04:37 pm     I hesitate to chime in here - I hate to generate or even participate in an even remotely divisive exchange!!! But, like Laura, I see a change for the better in Puck/David. I never could stand Puck before this show and there is a signifigant change in him this time around (remember he has been on RW as a participant and also as an emcee or announcer quite a number of times over the years)- In past appearances he has been true to his Puck persona - not only obnoxious but revolting - However, this time, I find him bearable and by comaprison with some of the others not so bad. Ellen was obnoxious on her stint on RR - she was obnoxious and diffiuclt. She remains so here. IMHO that is. David B who was mentioned as the cutie above - was just awful on RR New Orleans - He had some real issues during that show, most notably that he could not look anyone in the eye and responded to other people addressing him merely with musical rifs - very odd guy then. Now, what is intriguing is this budding relationship with Ayanna another one of the really weird sorts on her show - RR On the High Seas - Of course her family issues understandably made her trip difficult - but at the least one can say that she was often very difficult, controversial and instigating. David B and Ayanna seem to have softened this time around - certainly David now looks people in their eyes and talks in sentences - Ayanna seems calmer. Interesting that Ruthie has her clothes on much more this time aroun. Aneesa still seems to walk around half clothed but at least we haven't had to keep her company in the WC. There are so many of these RR/RW Male Females that I think I will wait a couple more weeks until the numebrs are cut down a bit more and then I will watch more carefully. |
Laura11103 | Monday, February 10, 2003 - 07:27 am     Scribe, yes, David B was a difficult PITA during his RW season, just ask Melissa or Jaime... luckily he didn't go to to far and ended on a good note, but there were a few episodes in there where I think every roommate wanted to ring his neck. Ayanna also was a very temperamental girl who seems to be keeping a lid on it this season. I am curious to see any interactions with her and Veronica as they certainly had their moments on RR/Semester at Sea (remember when Ayanna accused Veronica of copying her paper, which turned out to be true even though Veronica denied it to the hilt). Ruthie has been amazing in this challenge and I'd love to see her win, she's come a long long way, she's one of my favorites by far. I'm glad you see as I do that Puck isn't as awful as he once was. I can't argue with Sea or Grooch, they're right, he's a jerk big time, but I did think David (the one fighting w/ him in episode 1) was wayyyyyyyyyyyyy bigger of an ass in that fight. I just figure that Puck has gotten a seemingly very nice woman to marry him, he seems to be bonding w/ all the guys, and he actually agreed to back off of Ellen (except in competition), now the old Puck never would have done any of these three things IMO. Also Scribe, you're right, Puck was the guy behind the voice in one of the RR seasons... obviously they like to keep him around, guess for shock value or something. I'm looking forward to tonight's episode, hope something good happens. |
Ryn | Monday, February 10, 2003 - 04:43 pm     Bumping cause its on soon ;) |
Squaredsc | Monday, February 10, 2003 - 07:28 pm     i love this show. mtv is king of the reality shows. great challenge, hope mb is watching and taking notes. ok im going to have to stereotype my sex for a moment. for those who are going to be offended, im sorry but stop reading this post. women. get a group of them together and they won't get along. one will make too much of an issue, other won't care, others will get ticked off for no reason whatsoever, etc. it is a wonder that they won't do like the male team and just vote off the weakest link. of course we would consider more than a low score as being a weak link. this can be good and this can be bad. i am so sick of ellen and i am so glad that tonya spoke some truth to her. hopefully ellen will listen. now it seems like ayanna and ellen and ruthie get into it next week. just like in the workplace at least at my workplace. women will get into it, deep into it. this show needs more than 1/2 hour. i want to see more da**it. |
Seamonkey | Monday, February 10, 2003 - 10:43 pm     Squared.. have to agree about many groups of women.. and of course this group is chosen for being in many ways some of the biggest divas from season after season of mostly divas.. whew.. I know Ellen isn't popular.. she actually reminds me of my sister-in-law, who is also Asian-Am.. and she just doesn't have patience for lots of shilly-shallying and tends to take charge.. but of course she's not on MTV, she's consulting and running companies I find it interesting that this partner thing is now an issue, with people wanting to avoid the weaker links.. but since you cannot repeat partners, then it would have behooved them to immediately started voting off the weak links.. You'd score better with, oh.. say.. Julie as a partner. But anyway Amaya's gone and sad to see Yes leave ;( |
Sweetbabygirl | Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 05:53 am     Ellen, Ellen, Ellen!! While I like her feisty and take-charge attitude, she has the tendency to make things worse. During the lifesaver meeting, it was the wrong time to bring up the parner issue....it was over and done with, why harp on it further? Ruthie has come a looooooooooooong way since Hawaii, I'm so proud of her. She kicks MAJOR ass in all the competitions. Will miss Yes and his fine self. OT - If anyone is a fan of Melissa (Real World New Orleans), she has a hilarious website (www.princessmelissa.com); her daily thoughts and rants are too much! |
Squaredsc | Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 06:29 am     sbg, colin also has a kool site and his updates are hizzelarious. yes, another hottie is gone. dang it why is it the fine ones get voted off early w/o major chest time? |
Laura11103 | Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 07:25 am     I couldn't believe it when Ellen was cheering on Puck during his challenge.... I guess she's just a cheerleader at heart. You gotta admit Puck has won like every competition, he's a schmuck but a strong, fast schmuck, lol. Amaya would have to screw up after that whole fiasco of finding a partner.... oh well, she was a lot easier to deal with in this than her season of RW, that's for sure... I wonder if there was any interaction with her and Colin... |
Froggiegirl621 | Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 09:42 am     Can anyone tell me why no one wanted to pair with Veronica for last nights challenge? All I kept hearing was "no one wants to be with Amaya or Veronica" What????? Why????? |
Ryn | Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 09:53 am     Veronica is not well liked by a lot of folks if I recall. I wasn't surprised that no one wanted to pair up with her but I hesitate to give you more of a reason than that, I just seem to recall that on a show after her stint on RR it was revealed that not many other cast members cared for her. Put it this way..... I think some folks feel the same way towards Veronica as they do towards Beth from RW (LA). |
Wilsonatmd | Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 10:36 am     Part of it may be out and out jealousy on the women's side......Veronica and Beth were two of the four RR and RW women who posed for Playboy last year (Jisela was another, the fourth isn't in this years Challenge (Flora))...Rumors have it some of the others didn't like some of the comments associated with that event, or were ticked that they didn't get picked... |
Grooch | Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 10:45 am     " Melodrama plus time equals laugh-out-loud comedy. That was the case for a group of Real World and Road Rules players, who gathered in a West Hollywood bar on Monday to watch the most recent episode of Battle of the Sexes, and yours tuberly was there to gather all the dirt that's fit to dish. On hand were Ruthie (Real World: Hawaii), Genesis (Boston), Lori&Kyle (formerly of Back to New York and Chicago but now a single unit), Katie, Adam and Blair (Road Rules: The Quest), Mark (first season Road Rules) and Norman (first season Real World). Also in the house was Trishelle of the current Las Vegas season, who spilled more than a few secrets (which we'll get to later). Battle host turned competitor Mark organized Monday's screening in honor of Puck (who didn't show), because this was the big ep in which Puck gets married--and, of course, is accused of threatening Ellen's life. Drama! "Awww!" was the common comment throughout the Battle posse, as they watched a puffy-eyed Ellen quiveringly say she was afraid for her life. Followed by--get this--raucous laughter and clinking glasses when Puck retaliated and put Ellen in her place. That's right, my friends. Puck's fellow castmates really don't hate him. I asked the studly Mark to explain the Puck cheering squad. "Here is everything in a nutshell," he said. "Colin and I were in the room when the so-called 'I'm gonna kick your ass' thing happened with Ellen and Puck. And I can tell you, it never happened. He said, 'Beat it' and 'Get out of here,' but if he'd threatened her, we would have stepped in. In the reunion episode, Colin and I call out Ellen on the whole thing. Because it was bullshit." So, who's crazier--Ellen or Puck? "Puck's crazy in a good way," Mark said. "Fun crazy. Ellen's a manipulative crazy. Unless I saw her saying this stuff, I would've never known it, because she's always so friendly. But when people are away, they say what they want." Speaking of saying what you want, Trishelle (who's sweet as punkin pie in person) revealed some juicy tidbits about what's gone down since the show finished taping. If you don't want to know (pshaw!), skip the rest of this item. Here's the status: Brynn's engaged to Austin (studly lip-stud dude), Irulan and Alton are very much together and living together--and Steven and Trishelle are not and not, but they are still close. Trishelle explained the current sitch. "I'm living in Los Angeles with Katie, who was on the last Road Rules," she said, "and Steven lives, like, three streets away. Frank is also close. Frank and Katie are, like, inseparable. We are all very, very good friends. Irulan and Alton live right across the street. We talk every day." Très cozy, no? I asked Trishelle if it was awkward living close to Steven given their history. "God, no! I meet all of his girlfriends, and I tell him which I like and which I don't. And he usually takes my advice. He does the same with me. We're both very mature, and we realize our friendship is more important than anything. I mean, I've met these people who are going to be in my life forever. Our producer has worked on eight other seasons, and he said that definitely we were the most close cast. I think the producers really cast us well, and they got lucky." They weren't the only ones, eh? Speaking of which, a little birdie has told me Trishelle will hook up--then have a falling-out--with one of the other roommates (if you've seen the promos, you know which one), and she started dating a Road Rules guy after the show ended. Shhh... Meanwhile, fans of the Lori-Kyle coupling can breathe a sigh of relief: They're still together...inseparable, in fact. They spent the entire night joined at the hip. "We've been together almost a year now," Kyle beamed, adding that Lori is planning on moving out to Los Angeles to join him. According to her teammates, Lori and Kyle spent countless hours on the phone every night while they taped Battle. "What are you going to do?" she giggled, while sitting on Kyle's lap. "We get free phone calls. And I mean, look at him!" As for what's coming up on Battle, Lori said to expect "lots of big changes. A lot of people on the bottom of the list who you don't even know about all jump to the top. Also, I'll eat more ramen and talk on the phone." Stop the presses!" |
Squaredsc | Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 10:54 am     thanks grooch. wow im surprised that alton and irulen are still together. trishelle didn't mention arissa though. i am going to have to check out the mtv site when i get home. i hope this doesn't mean that ruthie loses her top spot. i really want her to win the whole thing. |
Wilsonatmd | Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 10:55 am     Grooch's thing was from EOnline BTW ...this weeks Watch With Kristin (formerly Wanda) column... |
Guinevere | Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 11:25 am     Ellen doesn't bother me. I recognize that she has an abrasive personality, and can be her own worst enemy (being combative with Tonya when Tonya was on her side - she did the same with Blair last week), but she just doesn't get on my nerves the way that *uck does, or Julie did, or some of the others. I actually thought that beneath the attitude she was pretty much right last night. The girls' team attitude sucks. Emily, with her "I'm not going to pair with Amaya or Veronica" is a good example of the problem. Funny, I liked Emily on her season of RR, but I've liked her less each time I've seen her. On the challenge in which she had problems with Julie (the whole rappelling challenge thing), I was on her side, but mostly that was because I really dislike Julie. And she was right in her initial point (Julie had cheated), but then she wouldn't redo the challenge, or something like that, "on principle", and in retrospect I think she was really pissy and childish about it. On last year's challenge, she was part of the inner circle that made the controversial decision to pick off other strong teams, and then later she tried to wiggle out of taking responsibility for it. And then her attitude this season. I'm sick of her. Back to Ellen - does anyone think that it's a good thing for her that she always ends up in the Inner Circle - she seems to have enough enemies that will be happy to get rid of her if she ever slips out. I must say I'm impressed with how she's done so far - I don't remember how she did with the challenges in her season of RR (just remember that Jisela kept messing up challenges, and then still tried to get Ellen booted when they had to kick someone off), but her success so far is at odds with my impression of her as a princess-drama-queen type. |
Seamonkey | Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 11:52 am     On her season, Ellen was mostly a strong team player.. she really screwed up on one challenge because she was enjoying herself too much, got herself in a real jam (lost momentum on a zip line and was weak as a kitten by the time she got herself across.. then she bogged down swimming and Jisela rescued her.. but she was the one to be the top of the pyramid with the acrobats, she was the one to get most of the people they needed for the bungee jump challenge, she was pretty fearless with all the climbing challenges and such.. and yes, she almost got voted out instead of Jisela, who had screwed up several times. I agree, if Ellen slips out of inner circle, she may be gone.. stupid move if they actually hope to win (the women, I mean). I relate to Ellen because I also have a strong streak of not holding back if I see something that is a problem.. even as a child I didn't bend to the popular majority and sometimes it cost me, but I look back and I wouldn't change it. As an adult I've taken stands.. like when co-workers were giggling over a rumor that another co-worker had AIDS.. the gigglers were young and were repeating gossip from a manager who should have zipped her lip.. The gigglers were telling this to me and a guy I knew was gay. I just said that if this was true, that Chuck had AIDs, that was terribly sad and that it should be for Chuck to tell. Later I asked the other guy if it was true and he said it was.. so sad. I was fortunate to have more time to get to know Chuck as he lived with great aplomb WITH AIDS and taking care of his partner who died first, and then dealing with his own impending death. I don't like to just let things pass.. like that, or racial comments and so on.. life's just too short. Ellen chose the wrong time, but the others just want to pretend stuff didn't happen. I hope Emily is FORCED to partner with Veronica or someone she doesn't care for.. tho the rumors say she stomps off the show when her boyfriend is ousted.. Emily has a history, as explained above, of taking totally destructive stands, for herself and for her teams. Ruthie is awesome!! (I agree with Squared.. want her to win it all) And for competitions, so is Puck.. I give him props for that.. but I don't like him.. he's got a mind that he could use to build people up and so far in life he's chosen to use it to mind-f#ck and knock people down.. But.. anyone who disagrees with me.. that's cool.. === Interesting stuff about Alton and Irulan.. time will tell on them.. and Brynn being engaged.. good for her! Frank and Katie, hmm.. Arissa supposedly stayed in Vegas. Somehow I think Trishelle is sugar-coating all of this.. |
Squaredsc | Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 11:56 am     guinevere, i agree with you about ellen and the inner circle. if she wasn't she would be on the first thing smokin. i don't really know emily or remember her. but it goes to show what i said above. she didn't want to pair up with veronica or amaya, now maybe its because they aren't good with challenges or she just doesn't like them. amaya isn't/wasn't a strong player, can't recall if veronica is or not, i remember she didn't last long last season though but i don't know why. |
Ladytex | Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 01:38 pm     dang this show is like a night time soap opera! LOL! |
Laura11103 | Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 01:55 pm     Emily was so much softer and sweeter in her season of RR. She went through a lot of emotions, hooking up with that hunk Devon (but they broke up soon after I believe). I think she liked him a lot more than vice versa, I remember them having quite a few spats, but I remember her being mostly very happy and she had her long hair, she was great back then. Now, she seems much harder and tougher... she's smoking cigarettes, what's up with her? I wonder if her car accident where she almost died (sometime after her season of RR) had something to do with her attitude change, who knows, but she was very lucky to come out of that accident okay, boy she got hurt bad! As for Ellen. I don't know... she's alright I guess.. she just comes off so whiny that it's hard to even listen to her. I do find it interesting that Tonya is kissing her patooty it seems, especially since Tonya was the whiner of her RW season... Tonya seems to have grown up so much, it's good to see. She was so darn obsessed with talking to her boyfriend she didn't have time to do anything else. Glad she's doing well. That is unbelievable (yet believable) about Alton and Irulan. I guess Gabe gave her the heeve ho or vice versa, whatever, Alton must be a happy guy. That's cute that they all live near each other and are all friends, they certainly all have an unusual bond. |
Wilsonatmd | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 05:07 pm     Wanda/Kristin of EOnline gave a hint to who ends up winning, no name, but a hint...I'ts in my personal folder... |
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