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Max

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 06:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope America picks Robert. It's the only thing that will make this show vaguely interesting.

As has been discussed here, there's something about Hank that doesn't sit well with me. If American does pick him AND they actually do get married on the show (how stupid a move would that be???), I think she might have more than a few surprises in store about how that guy really acts on a day-to-day basis.

One can only hope that the ratings for this are low enough that there won't be a Cupid 2.

Maryk

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 06:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I too voted for Robert multiple times!
Make this like FLOM 3, he either has to marry for love or marry Robert to be eligible for the $1M prize. That will make the last show interesting.

Crazydog

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 07:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I didn't like Lisa's comment either. I think she is a beautiful girl but I think she has an attitude problem. She agreed to be on this show and to have America vote. It's not "America must vote for who I like" - it's "America votes". BTW, do voters get to choose the winner as well? Or when it gets down to two of them, she gets to pick?

I hope we get to choose the winner. I am voting for Robert multiple times just because I dislike her and her catty friends. I would love to see her end up with Robert.

And I don't like Hank either. He rubs me the wrong way, and I don't like his overconfidence. A guy that looks like that has no justification for being so confident.

Brenda1966

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 07:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Crazydog, that was the last vote. The show is over next week.

Last night's show disgusted me. I had been enjoying this process, but I thought it was "America picks who they think is best for Lisa" not "Lisa tells America who to vote for". That pissed me off. She dismissed Evan on the show last night and that made me mad. I hope America doesn't vote for Hank because she wants them to. If she wants to marry Hank, that's fine, but that isn't my choice for her and I don't want her receiving a million dollar prize after she told America who to vote for!

Ugh! I wanted Evan to win, but after she dissed him I knew I wouldn't want to see him as top vote getter so I voted over and over and over for Robert! *very evil grin*

I hope this show is not renewed.

Crazydog

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have been voting for Robert each week. So how is that the last vote? Next week, do they just say who America chose, and then she gets to decide amongst the four who she will marry? That's stupid.

The whole point of the show was the she would marry who America chooses. If America chooses Robert, I want to see her marry Robert next week. If she still has some say in it at the end, then I will be sending some very angry letters to CBS and Simon Cowell.

Yet another reality dating show that has ended up deceiving its viewers. Bachelor 1, Bachelor 2, Joe Millionaire, For Love or Money 1, For Love or Money 2, the list goes on and on.

Lovedana

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
GeeeeeeeZ! Some of you are taking this so deeply. LOL! You all cracked me up. :D

I too don't understand Lisa's thinking. She seems confused herself. I still have to question if her show last night was real. It seemed like a joke to me. I'm referring to the whole, I want Hank attitude. Perhaps it was reverse psychology so America wouldn't keep making the opposite choices? I frankly didn't and don't see the strong connection people claim they have. I still remember about three weeks ago Hank was trying too hard with Lisa. He wanted a kiss so bad, and then Lisa wouldn't respond. She said, to paraphrase, "I'm traditional. I don't kiss my dates this early." So where did this sudden interest come from?

I won't try to second-guess her motive. And I won't criticize her for trying to persuade the American public to vote for Hank. However, I will be disappointed in the American public if they choose Hank because Lisa wanted Hank. There's a reason she entrusted the power to choose in the American public. When she did that, she forfeited her judgment and somewhat her rights to choose as far as the men depicted on Cupid.

Don't I remember reading in this thread that Simon said he wanted Robert to win? Hahaha! Even Simon has a sense of humor.

Ideally, I would go with Evan. Evan isn't Mr. Perfect in every sense, but he has what it takes to strive for perfection. He seems like the type that Lisa could work with, they work as a couple and live a decent life. He's pretty cool in my book. Again, if Lisa can't appreciate Evan and some of these guys, then she may as well make her poor choices, which I suppose is why she came on the show in the first place, putting aside the money for a moment. (Send some of those men my direction, btw. ;)) She's made poor choices in the past and couldn't trust her friends to choose for her, so why the attitude from the friends and her? If she's there primarily for the money, then screw them.

I have never voted before, but I think I'll pick up the phone and make a vote for Evan.

Alternatively, I'll vote for Robert. I also like Robert. People have brought the brightest ideas I never thought of. This would be a good way to know whom she really loves. I am thinking that the whole Hank show was a farce and really wasn't her preference. Maybe she felt America's been voting opposite, so putting a spin would make America vote for who she really wanted (i.e., not Hank). For all we know, maybe the truth is she really doesn't care for any of those guys left that much. Maybe she really thinks Hank is the most she can deal with for one year in order to get a million dollar. Who knows?

Luvmom

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lovedana,
That wasn't Hank she wouldn't kiss,that was either Paul or Scott.I can't remember which one.

Kmjm

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow- you guys are cruel! Why vote for someone you know she doesn't want? Why not just not vote? Why are those of you on planet "Get Real" bothering to try to fix the outcome of this dumb show? Why not just get on with your real lives?

I heard the exact opposite of what some of you heard- that Lisa said America had done a GOOD job in the eliminations so far, and she looked forward to that continuing. At the time I thought hmm what about Paul?

I think the multiple voting is pointless anyway. They don't reveal the results. It's been good TV to have the fake lovesick Robert stick around, but they'll fix it so Lisa marries Hank no matter what! They pretty much telegraphed that last night.

Brenda1966

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Crazydog, I didn't feel deceived by Bachelor, Joe Millionaire, or For Love or Money. I guess the reason why is because they didn't tell me that I would be making the decision about who won, and then tell me how to decide!

My guess as to how it will end: the top vote getter gets the chance to propose. Lisa can say no, but if they don't marry and stay married, then they don't get the million dollars. Lisa can run off into the sunset with someone else, but no cash prize.

If she has really found love in Hank, good for her. But I'm not rewarding her the dowry if I can help it. All along I had been voting for who I thought was a good match for her (not Hank), but after last nights blatant manipulation, I knew I had to vote for Robert (something I swore I'd never do) and try to throw a wrench in this process.

All of the guys have bad vibes about Hank, and I don't think that's based on jealousy. I don't think he's a great catch and have never voted for him. If America falls for Lisa's pitch, I'll be so disappointed.

Ladybug007

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
So WHAT HAPPENS WHEN ROBERT WINS?? Cause we all know that is what is going to happen...

Enbwife

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I’m sorry but I have to disagree with a few of you. I hope this show is real and not scripted, and if that is true, Lisa is there to find love, not to be set up with someone she is absolutely not interested in, just so the audience can get a laugh and make a mockery out of the situation (which it is, but that’s beside the point). Robert is only still there for this reason. It’s so obvious there’s nothing there, so why else would he have never made it to the bottom 3??? I think it was good Lisa finally spoke up and told America that she wants to be with Hank and doesn’t want to be with Robert or the others. She has to spell it out… I will be very disappointed if Robert is the chosen one. Of course she won’t marry him!!!

Lovedana

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
No, Luvmom, I'm so sure it was Hank. Scott was gone by then. She made out with Paul that day too. (Dominic, Paul, Renda, Evan and Joe had it much easier with Lisa that week than Ken, Robert and Hank that week.) I think that was the week that Ken took her to the beach and tried to teach her volleyball. Maybe someone else can verify which is factual.

Kellirippa

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think Lisa said that America was voting for the wrong people, I interpreted her remark to say that America had done a good job in voting out the wrong people, as in voting out the people who were wrong for her...

Clearly Lisa and friends have chosen Hank as her only choice. But the way the show has been edited to portray the "darker" side of Hank, I'm getting the feeling the producers are trying to encourage voters to vote for Evan. The actual voters seem to want Robert (is it because they wish to torment Lisa, or because they feel sorry for the guy?), and if I were Lisa I'd be gettin' me a little of that Dominic action! With Lisa saying that she chooses Hank, it seems the final show will be a huge non-event. I wouldn't be surprised to see Hank get the least amount of votes, but I'm sure Lisa would not marry any of the others just for the money...


AND: Did I hear it right? When Robert awkwardly attempted to ask about Lisa's background and asked about her childhood, she said, I used to play outside, I was a real tomboy, and Robert said "me too"...? LOL!!

Kmjm

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I just checked the Cupid website. It was Scott who took her on the picnic on the studio lot and was pushy about the kissing. He was booted the following week. Hank was too shy to kiss her at first, in fact Laura and Kimberley took him to task for it, and Lisa intitiated their first kiss.

I think the other guys don't like Hank because he has always been the clear favourite.

Crazydog

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I seem to recall at least one earlier week when Lisa and her friends essentially berated America for keeping Robert. Something along the lines of "I can't believe it. Why are you still here?"

Ever since then, I've been really irritated with those three. She wants America to choose her husband, and she shouldn't be telling people who to vote for.

Maryk

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't get the bad vibes some have about Hank. I do think that they have chemistry with each other from the moment they met. Saying that though, I want to see if she indeed has true feelings for Hank that she'll forego the million bucks to marry him instead of Robert.

Kellirippa

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe there is a "twist" instore, and maybe that is why the show has been showing Hank's other side, possibly they want her favorite to loose out, and then they'll give us a twist where she marries her choice and gets the money anyway...

Lovedana

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL, yeah, you heard right, Kellrippa. My sister doesn't normally watch that show, but for the first time she sat down with me to watch it last night. Robert made her laugh like crazy. She caught that comment "me too", which I hadn't even caught. She laughed so hard. Muse also mentioned it, so that's three people who heard it. English isn't his first language, but it's funny and cute when he tries to speak it. :D

Luvmom, I just verified it. Try to see the transcript for August 7. That was the week Lisa went fishing with Hank. I remember they were around water when she rejected him. I'm inclined to believe that the show last night with Hank was all a farce. Again, I think there's some connection, but I don't think it's as strong as people have purported. If she felt that strongly, she would have told him during the date that she felt that way. She wouldn't wait to stage it on TV. She was only trying to look good by jumping in the 'Hank is perfect. Look how he's so affected that he has to compete with other men for you. He really cared for you!' bandwagon. Hank to me seems like the type of guy that doesn't like to be challenged. I mean the jealous type. One he wins his trophy, he gets too comfortable and doesn't do those things that it takes to keep a woman happy. I do agree that he's a very responsible man, though. Don't get me wrong: I'm sure he really likes Lisa, unlike Joe who was there for the thrill of the competition and to see how well he could smooth talk his way.

Besides, if we were to follow Lisa's demands or desire, according to her a few weeks ago, Paul was the one. Remember how upset she was about him leaving? She also stood up to hug him. Come to think of it, America should have voted to keep Paul so she'll suffer the torture of a player like Paul or a smooth talker like Joe.

My vote goes to Evan anyway. If I'm in my worst mood, I'll vote for Robert, but Evan is my genuine choice. Maybe I'm doing him a disservice since he deserves someone who wouldn't question his motives and would appreciate him.

Lovedana

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Kmjm, are you sure? I never got to watch an episode with Scott. The first time I watched the dates, Scott was booted out that week. They don't show the dates before they boot out the persons. They boot out the persons before they show the dates. The week Scott was booted out was the first week I watched the show. So I don't see how that happened? Maybe they were still showing the dates after the persons left?

Edit: Nevermind! I guess you're right. I got confused or something. Anyway, I still think Hank is not a perfect match nor is he close to it. She left it to us to choose for her, so I'll make my choice. I'll consider her plea, but it isn't guaranteed that I'll be persuaded.

Kellirippa

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 09:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wasn't Scott the..hmmm..least attractive one of the bunch..dark hair?

If so, I do remember him taking her for a picnic outside of a soundstage... They talked about movies, and come to think of it he discovered her interest in "movie trivia" on the previous date, the one where they had to raise money and then come up with an activity..they were in a bar or restaurant or something on their first date..yes?

Paul is the guy I can't remember..what did he look like, and what were their dates?

Kmjm

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 09:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lovedana, I don't know what transcript you're talking about, but this is what I got from week 5 off the Cupid website. That's how I remember it from the show as well.

Edited to add- Lovedana, just read your second post which came while I was working on this one- I'll leave this up anyway for everyone's information. These shows all get blurry in the memory after a while!

HANK'S DATE: CAST AWAY
For his second date, Hank, the options trader from Chicago, decided to take Lisa fishing. Hank grew up fishing and knew he'd be doing it the rest of his life, so the way he figured it, if he and Lisa were going to be together forever, Lisa had better start learning now. Sure enough, Lisa admitted she'd never fished before. Hank started her off with the basics, teaching her how to tie a "fisherman's knot." Before long, Lisa was hauling in fish and plopping them in the bucket, paying little mind to the slime involved. She even laughed it off when she got some fish guts on her: "It's no fun if there's no blood." Hank told her the weather sucked in Chicago, which is why he was planning on moving south someday. He then asked her sheepishly if she might want to join him. The sexual tension between the two rose higher as they went to pay for their lunch and Hank asked Lisa to reach in his pocket for his wallet. "Oh, that old trick?" Lisa responded. Still, she grabbed it and when she put it back in his pocket gave Hank the opportunity to respond in kind. As their date came to an end, Lisa threw her arms around Hank and told him what a great time she'd had with him. But once again, just like last week, Hank found himself unable to summon the courage to kiss her, left "stuck with a bag of dead fish and no girl."

And once again, Laura found herself unable to stop gushing over Hank. "I still love you," but added "You're so laid back, you're almost horizontal. When the hell are you gonna kiss her?!" Kimberly said as much: "Hank, this is not the 1950s. You CAN kiss her. If you don't kiss her, I'm afraid you're gonna lose her."

But Hank assured the two ladies that "Lisa and I got a trick up our sleeves, so you'll all just have to wait. But you'll get what you're looking for." When she heard that, Lisa sparked up, saying to a clearly surprised Hank, "You offering right now?" She then called Hank up to the table for an impromptu kiss that the audience--and Laura and Kimberly--ate up in a huge way.

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/cupid/show/episode05/story02.shtml

Lovedana

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 09:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I stand corrected, Kmjm and Luvmom. Read my edit.

Thanks for the transcript, by the way, Kmjm.

I guess I totally forgot about Scott and mixed him up with the other Rob and Hank.

Alleyoops

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 09:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Here I am again ... disappointed in the seemingly mean streak of everyone voting. It's no wonder our world continues to get sadder and divorce is rampant. No one seems to want to help love. Everyone seems to enjoy the misery of other. Could it be that some are us jealous of these women ... their beauty and now their fame? Oh, sure some will deny it strongly. But we all know women are the hardest on each other. Instead of hoping for the best and trying to make someone happy there seems to be more joy and pleasure taken in the thought of making them squirm.

Its a sad statement of human character indeed.
Again, this seems like a pure bash fest. Come on everyone ... if we try to see the best in people ... just maybe that's what we will get.

Just my opposing opinion again. - Alley

Sweetbabygirl

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 09:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Uh no, Kmjm, the dislike of Opie from Hell IMO has nothing to do with the fact that he's America's (and suddenly Lisa's) favorite.... obviously, the men have seen sides to him that we and unfortunately Lisa haven't been able to see. It's like Dominic said...."He's Dr. Jekyl/Mr. Hyde". Almost every guy has had a negative opinion of his intentions so no, I'm not buying the 'jealousy' angle at all.

The throwing of the football incident isn't the only red flag that's been up since he brought his sh!t eating grin into the house.....it is the fact that he doesn't get along with the other men (Even if you don't want the others to win, at least be civil!), plus he has made snarky and condescending comments to them. What gets to me is that Joe was accused of going after Lisa like she was a prized possession....isn't that what Opie has been doing for the past three weeks now? And don't even get me started on his brother wearing the tacky "Vote for Hank" t-shirt!!

Renda - Was shocked that he left, I just knew it would be Dominic. Just as well though, let him find himself on the street corners of New York, whatever he does.

Robert - Still scary, although he did look sexy in the black wife beater/pants.

Evan - Since reading a post from last week (I think), where the person said that Evan signed on only after finding out about the dowry, I haven't been too keen on him. Felt bad for him on their date, with her getting seasick and all.

Lovedana

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 09:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
GeeeeeeeeeeZ! Why must someone vote the way Lisa or her friends want in order to prove that they aren't jealous and are looking for the best interest of the contestant?

Fine, if my sincere choice for Lisa isn't appreciated, I'll go ahead: quit watching the show and never make a phone call to vote. Why is Lisa there if her choice is the ultimate choice and always the right choice? She saw when she was scouting for guys. She could have said, you know Cupid, I'm not interested in the American Public choosing for me. I quit. I've found my true love and wish to be leaving for the everlasting bliss with <insert name of any of the suitors>.

Obviously she disagrees with the sympathizers here. If she agrees with the sympathizers, then she's admitting that her real motive for coming on the show was fame or money. If anyone truly believes in bliss and fairy tales, one would forfeit everything for one's single true love. You know true love is hard to find.

If Lisa really wants Hank as she claimed, I bet it is not because she's so in love with him and has this chemistry. It is because he's the most financially stable with his future all mapped. Her true love(s) all seem to be ordinary Joes when it comes to finance. Take Evan for instance ... he's just a volleyball coach. Or even Paul (whom I disliked).... What has he to offer financially? Lisa wants a financially stable and over the top relationship. I guess I was thinking too much of true love. LOL! I imagine Evan and she struggling together to walk up there as young starting couples. I should give her Hank so she learns the hard way. Hehehe! :D