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Fluff

Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 06:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, I'm glad this show exposed that AA women are NOT the only ones that wear weaves.

There are different types of weaves. Sewn in, glued in, and then there is a type called "fusion." With the sewn-in weaves, your natural hair is cornrowed, then the weave pieces or "tracks" are then sewn onto your natural cornrow. This method is generally the healthiest compared to the others.

Next is the glued in or "bond" method. This is basically the track being glued onto your scalp to fill out your hair or add length. I personally don't prefer this method because if not properly done, the glue can cause damage to your natural hair.

Next is "fusion" or "strand by strand" technique. The false hair is glued onto strands of natural hair. The reason this is different from the bond method is because it doesn't involve you glueing in a complete track. You're just glueing the fake strands onto the natural strands.

And of course, you can always buy clip-on pieces for a temporary look. Just clip in the extensions for instant added fullness and/or length!

Hey guys, here is a GREAT link for you to check out for visuals. And you can drop by the "Hair" thread over at the Community Corner for more fun hair talk.

PS-(Click on the right for individual explanations and photographs of the techniques)

His & Her Hair Goods

Fluff

Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 07:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Note- When I said "track" I was thinking of "weft." A "track" is another word for cornrow and the "weft" is the part of the extension that is sewn onto your track. So basically replace the word "track" with "weft." Sorry guys for the mistake. It's too early in the morning. Haven't had my chicken caesar salad yet.

Not1worry

Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 09:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fluff, thanks for the link! Now I get it!! I thought they undid the cornrow and couldn't figure out how the weave stayed in. I didn't realize the cornrow stayed on their head the whole time. Now I'm assuming as the hair grows, the cornrow would get looser and the weave would need some adjusting? How long can you wear the things? Do you have to be careful when you brush so the brush doesn't snag the cornrow? This is so fascinating, I'm learning a lot.

Chicken Caeser salad sounds really good.

Don't they have to do a commercial next week? I'm interested to see if the ones that look so good in a photo can look as good on the commercial. If Adrienne has to speak, she might be in trouble!

Fluff

Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 10:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
No prob, Not1worry.

Yes, when the hair grows, the cornrows starts to loosen. That's why with sewn-in weaves, the MAX time you can wear them is 3 months, but I would/could never do this. I plan on getting them again and would like to go for 2 months. The one time that I had them, I could only keep them in for 3 weeks, because I bought a bad quality of hair which tangled really badly. Quality of hair makes the ultimate difference as well.

With the bonded kind, it is recommended that you don't wear them longer than a week. With the fusion kind, you can wear them for months! But guess what? It costs the most as well, which is why it isn't exactly a popular method for ordinary folks like me.

How you care for them depends on what method you have. Generally, you treat them as your own, as far as washing, brushing, etc. You just have to be careful, although I can tell you that washing your hair is a pain, because you can't shampoo your scalp as good as you want to with the cornrow method. With the bond method, you can't wash your hair at all, which is why you're only supposed to wear them no longer than a week. The fusion technique is the most flexible. You can clean your scalp much better, considering the false hair is glued to strands, not tracks, and with the way they put the strands on, you don't have to worry about it coming undone. I think you have to see a professional to have the fusion hair removed, which also means paying out bucks, which is why I would never get this type.

I can't wait til next week's show. I hope they show the rerun of the previous show that I missed.

Not1worry

Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 12:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There are some pretty hysterical recaps of this show at RealityNewsOnline.com. The chick who wrote about Episode 2 cracked me up. She made a very funny point about Robin praying about Stuff magazine, like God is really going to endorse that rag, LOL. She said it much better, trust me.

Bbfanatic

Friday, June 06, 2003 - 11:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i have to admit i couldnt stop watching. i missed the first week. Elyse is my fave. she could be made up to look from 16-40 with the right makeup. she can also look masculine or feminine. models are not necessarilly known for great attitudes. i found her to be a hoot. she is the only one whose name i remembered at the end of the show. i didnt think this show would interest me, but i am always game for another trainwreck of a reality show.
in waiting for bb4 !!!

Pamy

Friday, June 06, 2003 - 01:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Not1..thanks for the heads up on the funny summaries! That last one was great!! This show is catching on, even Entertainment weekly has highlighted 2 quotes from the show!!! (the Albino prostitute and Elyse saying she wasn't up on prostitute trends! lol)
This show is better than most of the shows on tv right now! I can't wait for next week!
ps..if you guys like this train wreck you must watch The Family when it starts back up in July, it is a hoot!

Not1worry

Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 01:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Who does everyone think will be elimated this week? I'm thinking it's Ebony's turn this week, although I don't think Robin has much longer either.

Pamy

Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 02:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Not1, I agree. I was also thinking it could be that blonde girl, she is just kinda same ole thing to me. Whatever happens, I can't wait, this is my new fav show!! Tues is going to be great! Not only do we get models but we get Ozzy!!! Wahooo!

Texasdeb

Monday, June 09, 2003 - 04:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Robin has to know her days are numbered if she "divas" anymore. Tyra was pretty blunt w/her. I believe Ebony will go though. She just seems so set in her ways & I don't think she sees any reason to change anything about herself. She may surprise me. Pamy, I too think the blonde may get her walking papers because she just hasn't done anything to stand out(I can't even remember her name). Giselle (or whatever the latin american's name is) has rubbed me wrong from the get go - I don't know why, she just has. Wouldn't mind at all if she would mess up & be sent home.

Not1worry

Monday, June 09, 2003 - 07:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Giselle doesn't do anything for me either, I think it's her self-esteem problem. How can she not think she's beautiful. Some confidence would turn her into a real winner.

I think the other blonde needs to go, but I figure they won't eliminate 2 girls who look like each other 2 weeks in a row. That's not very logical, I may be totally wrong. We'll find out tomorrow!

Catfat

Monday, June 09, 2003 - 09:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just watched a show called "Essence of Haut Couture", and I learned a few things I thought would be nice to pass on to all of you.
For instance, the phrase 'haut couture' can't be used by anyone in the world except some elite Paris designers. It is like a private club to which you must be invited and the clothes must be made exclusively in Paris ateliers. One designer had gorgeous, extensive beading on his garments done in (I think) Lebanon, then the clothes were assembled in Paris. These garments were not eligible.

They talked about right after WWII there were hundreds of design houses and it has dwindled to a couple dozen.

Some of the models I recognized but others had on such extensive, elaborate make-up, I wasn't sure who they were. Their make-up was like the purple mask or the pink eye-shadow from Tyra's show last week. Very large, dark eyes, like the seventies.

The only girl from Tyra's group who was even close in stature, thinness and arrogance was Elyse. Perhaps Giselle, if she loses quite a bit of weight. I don't think Ebony would be right (her thighs are too big)and I can't even remember the names of any of the others.

Some of the clothes were stunningly gorgeous, others were just silly. Not one model had fake cantaloupe breasts ala Heidi.

Remember, these were runway models I was looking at and are at the top of their profession.
I can't believe I am saying this, that anyone should aspire to be as skinny as an haut couture model, but I am reporting here.
(Catfat wanders off in search of a hefty snack)

Pamy

Monday, June 09, 2003 - 09:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Cat!

Scorpiomoon

Monday, June 09, 2003 - 09:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for sharing, Catfat!

I always found "haut couture" a curiousity. Really, it's all about art not practically. There are, what, maybe a handful of women who can afford to buy true "haut couture" and I don't think it's even wearable.

The irony is, women are starving themselves to look like a haut couture model, yet the clothes are rarely worn!

Speaking of Tyra, I was thinking about her the other day. Even though I am not warming up to her as the host of this show, I do give her credit. She's been around for a long time and she's managed to keep her life out of the tabloids and maintain a respectable reputation. That says a lot. It's admirable.

Gina8642

Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 02:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
UPN is very annoying. This show is being pre-empted in favor of sports. I never got to watch Buffy on Tuesdays, now I'm never going to be able to watch this one. Boo Hoo!!!! TiVo never picks up the rescheduled shows. Not sure why...

Going to go to manually program TiVo now. Enjoy the show all... I will be reading all catty comments with great interest....

Texasdeb

Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 04:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks CatFat, "Cantaloupe Boobs" - my, oh my, I about wet my pants on that one. LOL! Keep em comming.

Jan

Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 05:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
looks like they are showing a repeat of last week from 8-9EST, if anyone missed last week

Scorpiomoon

Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 07:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, another interesting episode.

I don't know who I couldn't stand more: Giselle or Ebony. Ebony made me feel uneasy. I'm glad she's gone. Giselle needs to be next.

I am getting sick of Shannon. She needs to go after Giselle.

I wondered if they maids come in to clean. I guess not. Living with people who are such total slobs would get on my nerves too. It's funny how they can spend so much time primping themselves but can't clean up the kitchen once in awhile.

Adrianne was right. What the hell is Robin thinking? If she thinks homosexuality is wrong, she's wanting to be in the wrong industry. It makes me sad to know, in this day and age, there are still people who are so closed minded.

There was one too many ass shots in this episode. Ugh.

The more this show airs, the more I like Elyse. Next week's show will be interesting. She doesn't strike me as someone who has an eating disorder, but then again, you never know.

Beachcomber88

Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 11:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As someone who grew up in Chicago, I want to vouch for my hometown. We don't talk like Adrianne! To clarify matters, she's from Joliet, which is a farm town about 2 hours from the city. I keep thinking that she's trying to be a ventriloquist. She talks without moving her lips or opening her mouth - it reminds me of how my college roommate talked after his jaw was wired shut for four weeks following a bike accident.

I'm glad Ebony is gone. I couldn't believe how harsh Tyra was at the end. She seems on the verge of tears as she's handing out the photos. Even though I'm not a fan of Ebony, I thought Tyra could have tamed her words a bit. Guess she's preparing Ebony for how it is in the model world. I thought it was immature of Ebony when she stormed out of there and didn't look back. If there's ever a Top Model Reunion, my bet is she won't attend.

Despite her insecurities, I still like Giselle. Not sure what it is about her. I just find her very sexy and exotic. I hope she's able to find her confidence and win this thing.

It certainly looks like Elyse has an eating disorder ... how very shocking! Duh... you don't need to be a doctor to figure this one out. I thought it was hilarious when one girl pushed on her silicone falsies during the commercial shoot.

Not sure what the excitement over Robin is. I think she's too into herself. Lost a lot of respect for her also over her comments to Ebony about her girlfriend. I'm hoping her big booty and big attitude are out the door next.

Can't decide who annoys me more - Janice Dickinson or Jo Jo from "Fame". Who cares if Robin says "Yes, Maam." She's just trying to show some respect! I thought it was ridiculous how Janice said to kick her off because of the whole beauty pageant demeanor.

Scorpiomoon

Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 12:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
A thought comes to mind after reading Beachcomber88's post.

Is it just me or are all of these girls unlikable to a certain extent and protrayed as such? There's no one girl who we are all really, really rooting for. They are all rough around the edges and they all come across as crass and intense.

It's kind of funny how this is a competition about external beauty, yet we see the ugliness of these girls' personalities throughout the show.

I think Janice secretly doesn't like being called "Ma'am" because she probably thinks it signifies she is old and doesn't want to be reminded that her "golden years" are right around the corner.

Pamy

Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 04:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think your right about Janice, S-Mom. I was also wondering if Janice was a price is Right girl, she looks familar to me.
I bet Elyse wins, just by the way she has been edited.
Another fun show, I really like this show!

Fluff

Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 06:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Janice is an idiot. I felt kinda sorry for Ebony. I know that her attitude was extreme a lot of times, but she's the only one that took the contest seriously. I felt bad that she did all that greasing up for nothing.

And my goodness, I can't stand Giselle now! Ugh! I don't think she lacks confidence at all. In fact, I think she is OVERCONFIDENT, but tries to play it off. And she really angered me when they were cleaning the house, and she just laid around. Yeah, that was really cute. And then had the nerve to ask for a massage. I wish I was there, because I probably would've...

Anyways, I can't wait until next week. I do think that Elyse has an eating disorder, but I could be wrong. I hope they expose it fully, because that is what's wrong with this business today.

I really like Tyra, I also have to add. Even though she does criticize alot now, her words are never false. She does a lot of observing and her comments, to me, are always on key (except I think Giselle is overconfident and not vice versa).

Jay was too funny last night.

Jan

Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 07:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't say I don't like any of them.

I have a hard time with Shannon and Robin and their holier-than-thou attitudes. They are everything I dislike about what I perceive to be right wing intolerant Christians...(as opposed to us more liberal tolerant ones )

While Kesse is also in the "holy" room with Shannon and Robin, she does not seem to be as intolerant. I am assuming if she had the same comments as the other two, they would have been shown? I think Kesse hasn't done anything hateful so far (or am I forgetting something??)

I also sorta like Adrianne. She is really trying hard. I agree that the voice has to go but, as a person, I don't dislike her. I even like her better than Elyse who makes no bones about the fact that she thinks she is smarter and better than everyone else.

I dislike Giselle because she seems to be very lazy and oblivious to her own faults...and very unable to take criticism. How would she ever survive as a model?

I dislike Robin because I think she loves herself more than anything else on earth. She seems to be a spoiled little rich kid.

I hope the next evictees are, in this order, Giselle, Shannon and Robin leaving Elyse, Kesse and Adrianne to fight it out.

Not1worry

Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 07:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fluff, you made a good point about Tyra. I still don't like the way she hosts, and the way she says things. But her critiques are usually honest and valuable. If anyone knows what it takes, it's her. The fact that Giselle took the criticism personally instead of using it to improve made me dislike her more.

I was wondering about Giselle and her attitude. I'm not sure how they call her under-confident. She's cocky enough at the house. I'm beginning to think she's a pampered snot who's been told how beautiful she is since she was 2. However, I do think she has potential. She showed more maturity than Ebony when it came to their conflict. I wanted to smack her as she layed on the sofa instead of cleaning. But at least she didn't march into the kitchen and start talking bad about Ebony. And she was willing to talk rationally to Ebony about it, but Ebony was doing her thing.

I was aggravated at Ebony for acting as though she wanted to talk to Giselle and then not letting her speak. Then saying that it's Giselle's problem that she doesn't speak! Giselle would have had to have gotten just as loud and rude as Ebony to be heard. Too her credit, she let it go.

I was ready for Ebony to go last night. I didn't think she looked pretty or did a good job. Combined with her attitude, I was glad of the outcome.

Jan

Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 07:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I just checked out their bio's and was surprised to learn that both Shannon and Giselle are only 18 (I always thought Giselle was the young one.)

Also, Giselle comes across as a Shannon/Robin type Christian in her bio and Kesse doesn't.

The oldest is, no surprise, Robin at 26.

Their weights are also surprising..eg Elyse is 5'10" and 115 pounds while Adrianne is 5'10 1/2" and only 123 pounds..so only 8 pounds difference. The rest of them are 130-135 except for Robin who is 160! (she doesn't look it)

If you want to know more , go here:

Models' Bios