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Jan

Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 06:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OK I just got home at 9:30 and Elyse is gone but I don't know why!!!! What happened!!!

How can they boot her over Shannon who refused a shoot????

Hermione69

Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 06:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I completely forgot about this show in the BB excitement. WTF happened to Elyse???

Jan

Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 06:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
YEAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

Adrianne did it!

Scorpiomoon

Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 07:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What it came down to with Elyse was that they were looking for someone who was less high fashion and more commercial. Also, they seemed to believe her attitude and the way she would sometimes come across as being too "know it all" worked against her.

I felt so nervous for Shannon and Adrienne when they were doing the runway show. I didn't want anything to go wrong for them. They did great. Shannon did look awesome.

YAY Adrienne! Good for her! It's been ages since I've been so happy to see someone win a reality TV show. I hope she is successful.

Final catty comments about Janice: During the first elimination her eyes were half-closed. She looked like she was on Valium. She looked better at the end, when she said, "Shannon was dope!" I wanted to barf.

It's been sharing this show with you guys!

Jan

Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 07:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Did you see Adrianne when they showed her. She really almost fainted...her knees just about gave out. I just LOVE her!!!!! "My life is going to change..my families life is going to change!! " How great for her!!

Squaredsc

Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 07:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
woo hoo <doing happy dance>. i loved adrienne.

Roteach

Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 07:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am SO glad that Adrianne won! She truly wanted it and is willing to work to improve. I just might have to buy the edition of Marie Claire that she is going to be in.

Hermione69

Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 07:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good for Adrianne! I am happy for her! As many people have commented, I think she needed this more. Elyse is going to come out fine no matter what she does. Shannon seems sweet, but she looks too much like all the other pretty blonde women already out there.

Nice conclusion. I hope to catch the next one from the start!

Catfat

Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 07:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am OK with Adrienne winning.
HOWEVER---I am really peeved that the reason they eliminated Elyse was because she didn't play dumb. They said she acted like a know it all. For craps sake, how much longer are we women going to have to pretend we know less than we actually do in order to get anywhere? Elyse is an intelligent person, she is going to be a doctor, and they kept putting her "in her place" and in the end was eliminated because she was too smart.
I haven't seen the show yet, I am only going on what is on this board. I hope I am wrong, but is this jealousy on the part of the judges?
OK, Girls, let this be a lesson to you. Don't let 'em see your brains or they will toss you out into the cold. Grrrrr. Spit. Hissss.

Gina8642

Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 08:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I guess I was routing for Elyse because I was really sad when she went. But, in the end I'm very, very happy for Adrienne. She really, really wanted it and she got it. That is so TERRIFIC!!!

I have to agree with Scorpiomoon - it's been awhile since there was a reality TV show winner I really, really was happy for and that I liked.

Good Luck to Adrienne!!

Pirate

Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 08:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What was up with Janice tonight. Now Shannon is the best thing that ever hit the fashion world??

I am happy with Adrianne winning. Elyse seemed to let down at the end. Elyse was always on time for everything and did everything asked of her until the very end. I knew she blew it when she said her eyes glazed over and the guy that was giving them the advice noticed it. Elyse just seemed to lose any enthusiasm to win it.

And then when they showed her giving the Estrogen speech, that really sealed her fate.

Oh well, if Shannon had won, I don't know if I could have tuned in next time. It would have been such a let down. I guess they don't put as much weight in making all the shoots and doing everything they are asked after all.

At least Elyse has a brain and education to fall back on.

Kappy

Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 11:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Catfat ~ don't worry. If you do catch the episode, it was how elyce presented herself to the jury in the end that struck them all as wrong. I think also, that while Elyce has an absolutely gorgeous face, and can do runway, they felt she could be perceived as condescending at times and that it wouldn't go over well if she were doing a talk show or commercial, which were two things discussed as possibilities for the winner. And just so you know, Elyce herself agreed with them when she was alone later talking to the camera. But I also have to say that since it was edited to where we almost never heard them say anything wrong about Elyce in the last 4 episodes, I was shocked that she was eliminated.

I thought both Shannon and Adrianne were great on the catwalk, although they all seem to agree that Shannon was ever so slightly better. So maybe not being willing to do that one photo shoot did hurt her in the end.

Congratulations to Adrianne! I actually cried with happiness for her. She did improve and grow so much in the last 8 weeks. Just imagine what she can do to continue improving in the next year. And she can always hire a speech coach for those Jay Leno appearances, lol! BTW, she'll be on Regis tomorrow morning.

Kimmo

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I didn't get to watch Elyse do her estrogen speech (only heard bits while in the kitchen making dinner), but it seemed like she would only do that if she didn't want to win after all.

Her interview where she said "It's all so flukey," etc, and that no one would ever see her again, made it further seem like she didn't want to win and be a model after all. She's obviously intelligent and knows her know-it-all attitude was her downfall, so she probably knew what she was doing with her estrogen talk.

Even if Elyse didn't back out, as I think she did, the panel would have found some reason to count Elyse out so Adrianne could win-- It's much better TV! :)

Well, I don't know if Elyse would have won if it were just she and Adrianne at the end. Adrianne was edgier and really gave her all in the photo shoots. But then I think Elyse was posed more doll-like in most of her photo shoots because of her delicate beauty, while Adrianne was allowed to really "let go" more and show more personality because of her less conventional looks.

Not1worry

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 05:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Finally, someone wins a reality show and I don't hate them! A happy ending for me.

I do believe the judges when they said it was very hard to choose between the final 3. I'm sure they edited it to look like Elyse was favored so it would be more of a shocker when she was eliminated. Janice has always liked her, but Kimora and Beau Quillian have both had weeks when they had negative comments for Elyse.

The Estrogen speech was quite bizarre, and I think Tyra really wanted Elyse to admit that being a supermodel did take some hard work and it was more about looks. When Elyse maintained that it was all about physical beauty, I think that ticked Tyra off a bit. I don't feel that they eliminated her because she was too smart or too know-it-all. Tyra said she felt that Elyse's ambivalence about modeling would hurt her, that if a model didn't want it 110%, she would fail.

I am soooo happy for Adrianne, I love her heavy metal hand gestures and tomboy attitude. I love that she wants to win in part to help out her mom. I love that she wanted to win SO bad, but was always a great competitor. She was the little scruffy kid that won everyone's heart (well, mostly everyone). Even Beau said, "I like the goofy smile."

I hope that Adrianne appears on the next season, sort of the returning queen. This was such a great show, I'm going to miss it!

It was great to share it with all of you!

Jan

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 06:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Adrianne is on Regis this AM (on here now) I had the TV muted and in the opening credits they showed a picture of Adrianne. Kelly is talking about it now

Jan

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 06:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Do you think that maybe Elyse, who I think, really formed a friendship with ADrianne, maybe decided to throw it to give ADrianne a better chance. After all, Elyse doesn't like the modelling world. She wants to be a doctor...and her friend Adrianne really NEEDS to win this thing

Roteach

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 06:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Adrianne is on Regis and Kelly now. She's worked on her voice and sounds great. She also looks great. She's got a new do, straight and shoulder length. Her voice (speaking as a speech pathologist now) really improved. She's just got a bit of the Chicago/midwest now. She's totally comfortable talking with Regis and Kelly. She couldn't tell anyone for TWO months if she won or lost. I think that she will handle this very well.

Roteach

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 06:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
She said that she sat in her room and practiced her diction, opening her mouth and doing vocal exercises. I wouldn't be surprised if they also hooked her up with a voice coach/speech pathologist. Does anyone know in what month's edition her Marie Claire spread will appear? Wonder if she did it right after the show or if she is doing it now.She just said that Revelon didn't know the winner until last night. She's going to keep going and not give up. She said she's always been an athlete. After the show, she didn't go back to waitressing-she mowed lawns, pruned trees and other stuff.

Jan

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 06:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Adriann is on Regis now and she looks gorgeous. She is really bronzed up.

You can tell she is very nervous and that she has really been working on her voice. She said the show wrapped up in Feb and she was not able to tell anyone about the results. That gave her time to sit in her room and do Voice tricks to force her to open her mouth when she speaks etc.

Regis said it looked like you almost fainted when they announced you. She said they talked about Shannon being the Diva of the runway and she assumed Shannon had won. It was a real shock to her, I think, when she won.

SInce winning she has been mowing lawns and trimming trees for a living!! (maybe it is a natural tan.) She did not want to return to waitressing after being treated like royalty for awhile..she wanted a job where she did her own thing.

She wants to make it all the way..Victoria Secret and Sports Illustrated etc. When asked what she won she could not remember her agent Wilhemina but Kelly helped her out. She is really coming across, at least to me, as very nice and real but EXTREMELY nervous Mind you it is her very first talk show ever. I would be dying of nerves. THat's probably why they picked Regis and Kelly. They are so nice to people.

Scorpiomoon

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 10:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh my gosh! Thank you, Jan! I so glad to read she's doing so well. It's just the coolest thing.

Realfan

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 10:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I was disappointed that Elyse was tossed before Shannon, definitely. But if she's happy, I'm happy. I understood the estrogen thing, but it was really obvious that Tyra was fishing for a speech about how modeling really does take brains, blah blah blah. Thing is, I don't think Elyse found that to be the case, really, as it all came pretty easily to her. I'm mostly bummed that I won't be seeing her again. I would have loved for her to get a contract, too, and so I could follow her career (along with Adrienne's). I think Elyse has a very memorable look, and I wanted to see where it might take her.

I wonder if any modeling agencies contacted her after the show offering representation. I sure would have. Elyse may have said that was it on the show, but if opportunity knocks, who knows? I did get the feeling she sort of sabotaged herself intentionally at the end, with being bored by that guy's schpeil. Of course, in her mind, he wasn't shedding any new light on anything. She'd already heard it all before at that point. That's the thing about smarties--they have little patience for repetition and boredom.

Adrienne is a sweety--so glad she won over Shannon, but Shannon was awfully good about it, too. Very mature attitude for an 18-year-old, saying she really was a success for coming in second and a lot of girls would kill to be in her place.

I also think modeling is a real personal thing--like fiction writing, which is what I do. One week the judges rave about a particular model; the next they find fault because of their own biases. Like the blather about Elyse not being commercial enough--wouldn't they have figured that out right at the start of the competition? I mean, she had gone through exercise after exercise and I never heard them make that particular generalization. She did fine in the TV commercial shoot, and other shoots. So, basically, there are no hard and fast rules here, and it's alll up to what strikes the judge on a particular day. Which is probably why it seemed to come down to which model wanted it more. I'm with Elyse on that one--deciding "who deserves it" is bunk. There is no inalienable right to win a modeling contract. And if it came naturally to Elyse, why the concern that she might not "want it enough"? She went through the competition and performed well enough to get to third place. That's all they need to know about her private "wants" if you ask me. So, she didn't have to sweat like Tyra (poor, woe-as-me Tyra--I like her OK, but her sob stories were getting tiresome). Neither did a lot of successful people (Avril Lavigne, for instance--ugh).

Pamy

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 10:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I couldn't be happier!!! I never wanted to watch or like this show but it pulled me in! It turned out to be the most enjoyable reality show this year! And finally a winner we all love!! YO ADRIANE!!!!! Good for you!!!

Fluff

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 11:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm sorry, but I thought Elyse's estrogen speech was ludicrous, and I'm glad she didn't win. I was thinking Shannon was going to win because of her fierce catwalk, but I was quite surprised. It was an enjoyable ending, nonetheless. I'm glad Adrienne won this thing. It goes to show that hard work does pay off.

Skypilot

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 11:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
As much as I liked Elyse, I never thought that she developed a good runway walk. She always seemed really stiff to me--no sway in the hips or anything. As much as I would have loved to see her on the runway, I still think that Shannon would have blown her away for once. That was the first time that I was ever impressed by Shannon. She seemed to have almost magically acquired the "edginess" that the judges said she needed. Maybe it was just those butt ugly clothes that did the trick. However, I am really happy for Adrienne. I didn't see the first few episodes of the show so it was a shock when they flashed back to Adrienne's first appearance before the judges. What a tranformation!!!!

Kappy

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Adrianne did well on Regis. I got a kick out of her mowing lawns and pruning for the last two months! The dress she was wearing looked great on her.

I'm not sure I would agree that Elyce purposely threw it at the end. Kimmo made a good point about all of her photos looking almost doll-like. And I agree with Not1 about Tyra wanting her to admit that there was also hard work involved and that beauty alone cannot do it. It's that extra 10% of desire that gets you through it all to make it.

I also wonder if in the end, people like the gentleman from Marie Claire might have had a little more say on who won simply because they were actually going to be using the winner. And he wanted Adrianne because she looked like she had lived life more and felt it showed in her face.

Anyways ~ I have no doubt Shannon will get hired by someone. She looked too good on that runway not to. And I could swear Elyce said she wanted to spend one more year (in NY?) to try modeling as well. So she probably knew she could easily get hired as well.

I still can't believe I actually watched this show and actually ended up shedding a few tears at the end! I am so NOT into the fashion world. Every week, my family would walk in and say "you're watching this again? Why?!" What can I say ~ I got caught up in it. And as others have said above, it was very entertaining to come here and comment after each show so thank you, ladies!