Archive through August 15, 2003
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Archive through August 15, 2003
Texannie | Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 01:18 pm     Thanks Bracken, I will check my tv guide. |
Hummingbird | Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 03:23 pm     No, Quinlan and Sanders do not look like they could be the natural parents of this jewish kid, but then Striesand and Elliot Gould would have surely passed on this project. |
Ric_Munoz | Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 11:26 pm     Good one, H-bird! In addition to Babs & Elli passing, you forgot to mention that Jason Gould (their frightening, natural progeny) just couldn't fit the BoSH gig into his supertight schedule. |
Bastable | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 06:12 pm     I simply do not like Efram. I do not like the way he treats Erica. I'd say he's an egotist, but I am not even sure he's aware there's a world that could revolve around him. Movies don't write themselves. Anyone who loves movies knows that the greatest movies ever made were great partly because they were carefully and brilliantly written. These young directors only want to be famous. They have no craft! |
Gemma120in2002 | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 10:35 pm     I just saw the rerun of last night's show. These two guys are like frick and frack! Efram runs up to the car to direct the actors while Kyle runs back to the camera. Then Efram goes back to the camera and Kyle has to run back to the car to redirect the actors again, and his directions completely contradict the directions that Efram just gave. Then the actress, Amy Smart, starts to get rude with them, and even flips them off. Of course, being completely clueless and narcissistic, Efram and Kyle determine that the problems they are having with the actors are due to Chris Moore, Jeff Balis, and Erica Beeney talking to them in front of the actors, and undermining their authority. Efram and Kyle even wanted Chris and everyone else to submit 3X5 cards to them instead of talking to them! Chris Moore basically blew that idea out of the water and told the self-impressed duo that they weren't going to change the way films have been made for 50 years because they don't like the way it's done. This little conversation/meeting took about an hour, and during this period of time, the actors were left hanging and wondering if the meeting was about them and their skills. Just one more example of how badly Efram and Kyle handle the interpersonal relationship part of film making. This also robbed them of at least an hour of film time when they were horribly behind. This resulted in their hurrying and doing poorer quality work than they might have done if they hadn't been so self-involved. The one thing that gave me a glimmer of hope for Efram was at the end of the show, he actually admitted that the awful day wasn't just everyone else's fault, that it started out as a very poorly organized day. He didn't actually come out and say "We screwed this up ourselves." but he is getting closer to admitting that he is indeed capable of making mistakes and errors in judgement. I'm enjoying this show. It keeps getting better, every week. I just hope they make a good movie. |
Yuknomenot | Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 12:03 am     Bastable, I'm with you on Efram, he set my hinky meter off from the first word he ever spoke on the show. I'm still trying to understand why they chose him and the only answer I can find is the upheaval he causes just by breathing. On the most recent episode the director that Erica (the writer?) favored popped on set for a visit. I kept hoping that her presence would be used for a threat but that never transpired... Efram and what's his name are there until the end according to the previews. I really enjoy this show but I fear it's another attempt at "reality" through scripting. I've not heard anything about Pete, have you? (P.S. They should take Efram's Rover away from him and put him in a "Rent-A-Wreck". ) edited for horrendous punctuation. |
Prisonerno6 | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 10:08 am     Can someone fill me in on what happened during the last five minutes of last night's show? Thanks to HBO's fluid start and stop time scheduling (i.e. 10:30 really means any time between 10:25 and 10:35...) the last thing I saw was one of the director guys taking food to Shaya. Loved the boom guy's reaction to Efram's comments.The directors seem to forget that most of the people on the set have more experience in their little pinkies than these guys do in their entire body. J-Lo was also extremely quiet. Wonder if that was on purpose or if that is the way she is. |
Didi8367 | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 10:46 am     Hi Prisoner06: Basically, Chris Moore tried to talk Ephraim and Kyle into just scrapping Shia's all-at-once monologue and making the scene work by inserting litle bits of the monologue over shots of the other character reacting to having the cans of cat food tossed at her. So Kyle told Shia that he didn't have to do the whole thing at once, on camera. But Shia insisted that he try it one more time. He wanted to "nail it." Not for anyone else, but only for himself. So after lunch, they came back and did it one more time . . . of course, he delivered it perfectly. It was really cool. Basically, at that point it was over. Both the episode and the actual filming of the movie. They filmed a few basic "filler" shots and then yelled, "That's a wrap." The last few minutes of the episode were consumed by various people (the AD, the line producer, Kyle & Ephraim, etc.) talking about how it was both sad and a relief that it was all over. According to the previews for next week, they start the editing and audience preview part of the filmmaking process. Of course, disaster ensues in the form of the "rough cut" tape not being ready for the audience preview or something like that. Didi |
Prisonerno6 | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 10:55 am     Thanks Didi! Of course Shia nailed it once he had a chance to breathe. That's an impressive kid. |
Bastable | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 11:12 am     Shia is pretty impressive. They should have let him direct the movie instead of Count Efram and his filmic flunky. |
Ric_Munoz | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 08:58 pm     If the movie bombs, it definitely WON'T be Shia's fault--there also won't be a PG3 next season. When this season is over, I'll miss hissing at every syllable that comes out of Mr. Liquid Eyeliner's prissy mouth--such a moose, that one! |
Caroline | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 09:28 pm     Still watching / enjoying each week...E&F are almost comical in their insistance to continue with their entertaining inexperience. Interesting point Chris Moore made about a well filmed movie not guaranteeing a good film. And, I have to admit my opinion of Chris has greatly improved... |
Surealityjunkie | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 10:15 pm     The Official Website: http://www.miramax.com/battle_of_shaker_heights/ (don't know why the link isn't showing... strange...) I don't know if this is up higher in the thread but I thought I would pass this along if you haven't seen it already... I didn't get to see tonight's show, but I did watch the "wedding scene" episode over the weekend and wanted to run to the computer to type, "The directors are driving me crazy!!! " They are too over the top for me... I was cracking up when Erica rolled up the limo window while Ephram was talking to her, only to flip him off behind the tint... And, I was surprised William Sadler didn't just cuss him out for being all "in his Kool-Aid" after he asked for space to work on his role with Shia...  |
Prisonerno6 | Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 05:26 am     I have a crush on Chris Moore. ;) Honestly, I think he's done an admirable job of balancing the need to teach these young film directors about the business and the need to smack them upside their heads. 3x5 cards my fat ass. Only someone insecure about their work would turn away advise the way these two have, IMHO. |
Hoosiergirl | Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 10:13 am     These indescriminate Bennifer appearances are really interferring with my viewing pleasure. Buy one, get one free.  |
Prisonerno6 | Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 08:11 pm     "It's going to be a 92, it's going to be a 92!" {snicker} |
Ric_Munoz | Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 09:52 pm     Total schadenfreude for those two bozos (feel sorry for Erica, though). |
Kitt | Monday, August 11, 2003 - 02:25 pm     42 - ouch! It seemed odd though, considering there was a lot of laughing in the theatre, and the others (as well as the director) thought it had played well. I can't believe them thinking they could edit up until the last moment and screen it before the others had seen it! Yeah, I feel sorry for Erica too. You have to wonder what that other director would have done with it. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Monday, August 11, 2003 - 02:36 pm     I'd have preferred something different year....besides the twist of them choosing both a writer and a director (in this case duo-directors) as opposed to last year's writer/director in one. It would have been interesting to have chosen a script, then picked TWO *different* directors and let them *each* produce a movie from the same script. Yes, it would cost twice as much and it would have been a series from hell to have to produce....but I think I'd have really liked to see the two different movies they could've come up with an identical script, budget, and time constraints! |
Sanfranjoshfan | Monday, August 11, 2003 - 02:41 pm     Btw, if anyone is interested...."A Stolen Summer" (the movie made on last season's "Project Greenlight") airs on Starz at 10:35 AM on Wednesday, the 13th. (It also aired yesterday morning, but I missed it) I get the impression that none of the Project GL producers hold it in high regard at all.... |
Kitt | Monday, August 11, 2003 - 03:05 pm     Yes Sanfran, it wouldn't have been extremely interesting to see two different versions made, a bit like the scenes they had to submit to get chosen in the first place. Shame they won't try that for PGL3 . I didn't know Stolen Summer had made it to tv yet, I'll make sure I record it. I'm surprised the producers are being so negative about it now, you'd have thought they'd want to save face a bit more. I guess they've got all the money they're likely to get out of it already, so don't care. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Monday, August 11, 2003 - 03:38 pm     Kitt - you said, "it wouldn't have been extremely interesting" but I assume you meant it WOULD have been extremely interesting"...right? I, too, was really impressed with those short audition tapes (made using the identical meaningless dialogue) that the directors submitted. It was amazing to see how different visions of identical mini-scripts resulted in completely different scenes. Usually a "remake" of a movie is done years later, but doing two versions at once would be really cool way to show how different the creative process is for different directors. |
Kitt | Monday, August 11, 2003 - 04:08 pm     Ooops, sorry, yes, I meant it WOULD have been interesting! |
Mark13 | Monday, August 11, 2003 - 09:54 pm     The trailer for the movie is up! The Battle of Shaker Heights Trailer |
Ric_Munoz | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 12:29 am     Shia was, comme toujours, utterly charming during his chat with Couric on the "Today" show. |
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