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Fluff | Friday, May 16, 2003 - 12:27 pm     Ummm, Hobbs, it isn't the WWF anymore. It's the WWE! Get it straight!  |
Grooch | Friday, May 16, 2003 - 12:28 pm     Sadiesmom, if it is true that they did steal the idea, then hopefully he sent it registered mail. I would imagine the PO keeps records of that. |
Hobbs | Friday, May 16, 2003 - 12:32 pm     Thanks for the update Fluff. I'm showing my age again. I knew there were some changes, but thought the new initials were some sort of splinter group. For all you WWE fans out there, my humble apologies. |
Prisonerno6 | Friday, May 16, 2003 - 12:34 pm     I don't understand why people think the judges/producers/media want to skew things so Ruben wins. Isn't that counterproductive? In the case of Simon, at least, wouldn't he want the true popular favorite to win? Sure, he *might* be able to influence people to vote for one over the other now, but that doesn't mean a year from now that they'll buy an album. And if Clay is more popular than Ruben, then marketing really isn't an issue, 'cause the album will sell itself (does anyone really think Kelly's #1 album debut is because of "marketing" istead of winning AI fair and square?) The producers sure wouldn't want to piss off the large contingent of Clay fans, since that would make them (and there are a lot of them!) less likely to watch next year. Any dinking with the voting results is illegal -- as Nigel Lythgoe (Nygel Lithgoe?) said in an interview after the Ruben in the bottom two week, it could result in them losing the franchise, and that isn't worth it. Trying to make Ruben win over Clay isn't worth losing a chance at the #1 TV show, #1 Album, and #1 single. And why in heaven's name would "the media" care who wins? All they're interested in doing is selling papers/magazines/commercial time, and they do that by giving the consumers what they want. Maybe the market research of "the media" says more people want to see stuff on Ruben then on Clay. Or maybe they're all really using reverse psychology and trying to get people to vote for Clay by making him the underdog (or does that theory only apply to Ruben). Frankly, at this point, I suspect the number of people who could be influenced one way or the other is statistically insignificant. Besides, sometimes the simple theory (instead of the conspiracy theory) is true -- maybe they are in the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people who just happen to prefer Ruben's singing to Clay's. |
Fluff | Friday, May 16, 2003 - 12:36 pm     LOL Hobbs! No worries, since I am probably the only fan.  |
Hobbs | Friday, May 16, 2003 - 12:39 pm     Since you're a fan, Fluff, whatever happened to that Body guy? You know, something like "The Body" Vanburan or Vancover. Something like that. Can't quite recall. <snicker, snicker> |
Sadiesmom | Friday, May 16, 2003 - 12:39 pm     I don't know how long they keep them, Grooch. There has to be a limit on retaining paper records and, from work, I only retain historical data for 7 years, both digital and paper due to legal requirements. |
Fluff | Friday, May 16, 2003 - 12:48 pm     Hobbs, I have not a clue as to who you're talking about!  |
Crazydog | Friday, May 16, 2003 - 12:48 pm     Jesse "The Body" Ventura? The one that became the Governor of Minnesota? |
Hobbs | Friday, May 16, 2003 - 12:57 pm     You better duck Crazydog. I think I just saw something fly over your head! Bwaaahahahahaha! |
Fluff | Friday, May 16, 2003 - 12:57 pm     *giggles* |
Ladytex | Friday, May 16, 2003 - 01:01 pm     Well, well, well ... this <> is enough to drive one off these boards for awhile. They are trying to come up with reasons why Clay loses before he even loses, if he even loses. Why would Simon want someone to win who does not have the popular vote? He's in the market to make money. You would think that he would want the contestant who will make him and his company the most money to win. Too bad some people cannot understand that everyone does not share their opinions and that there are alot of people in this country that enjoy Ruben and want him to win. I hope Ruben wins, makes lots of money, and then tells all those who came up with this mess about him not winning fairly to kiss his butt. |
Crossfire | Friday, May 16, 2003 - 01:05 pm     I don't think any of this really matters. Producers and past contestants, and judges, and message-board folk can say all they want to attempt to influence the vote, but Clay and Ruben will statistically have ~ the same number of votes unless they fix the phone system. That has really been the problem all along. (That and people who vote more than once, which should be stopped since even if they do expand phone capacity it will still just get maxed out.) |
Fluff | Friday, May 16, 2003 - 01:05 pm     I hear yuh, LadyT. I think it is all reverse psychology, I tell yuh. Simon is not an idiot. I don't like him, but he is no fool. |
Crazydog | Friday, May 16, 2003 - 01:06 pm     Hee hee, Hobbs and Fluff, I must be out of the loop on an inside joke!  |
Hobbs | Friday, May 16, 2003 - 01:11 pm     Crazydog, it's all out there in the open. You can pretty much count on not taking me seriously unless I'm giving my opinion on the show. Everything else is... well... comic relief. And Lordy knows, we need it around here! |
Hobbs | Friday, May 16, 2003 - 01:16 pm     Well folks. Me and Mrs. Hobbs are going away for a long weekend to celebrate our anniversary and birthday. The last thing I'll be thinking about are computers and TVCH. So have a good weekend! See ya Tuesday. Maybe I can talk the Mrs into a little role playing. I'll be the 24 year old kid and she can be Paula? On second thought. Nawww. Bad idea. |
Crazydog | Friday, May 16, 2003 - 01:32 pm     LOL Hobbs. Have a great weekend. So in regards to this dude who claims it was all his idea... is that Canadian Idol show being produced by the same people who do American Idol? If not, are they expected to pay the AI guys for the use of the idea? I have no idea as to the validity of his suit, but I'm not an expert as to intellectual property law. |
Llkoolaid | Friday, May 16, 2003 - 01:45 pm     Speaking of the Canadian Idol show, I am pretty sure the kid I was talking about in the CI thread has made it to Toronto, which would be equivilant to AI going to LA. |
Llkoolaid | Friday, May 16, 2003 - 01:46 pm     I think it is the same producers, up here they show auditions of AI for commercials advertising CI. |
Tabbyking | Friday, May 16, 2003 - 01:59 pm     i wonder if edgar (the horrible) will make it up there?! he was hysterically funny...showing up in hollywood even though he didn't make the cut! lol, he and keith ('like a virgin'--hell, forget 'like' a virgin, IS a virgin, is my take on it...) were my favorite 'didntmakeits' on AI this season. of course, i usually remember one of their auditions during an inopportune moment! |
Llkoolaid | Friday, May 16, 2003 - 02:38 pm     Keith is always on the promotions for CI. I am not sure who Edgar is, is he the guy that had his pants ripped up the sides. |
Jan | Friday, May 16, 2003 - 05:43 pm     First Luther Vandoss...now Barry White has suffered a speech affecting stroke. It makes a big hole for Ruben to fill... maybe it will make him rethink the weight issue. Barry is also only 58. See Barry White suffers stroke |
Jan | Friday, May 16, 2003 - 05:46 pm     In fairness, Simon did not say Ruben WILL win it. Regis asked him who he thought SHOULD win it and he answered RUBEN He is allowed to give his opinion and that is all he is doing..and lets admit it..in the past, people often vote against his opinion so this will probably work in Clay's favour. Maybe we Ruben fans should be suggesting Simon stop with the kiss of death opinions!! |
Sadiesmom | Friday, May 16, 2003 - 05:57 pm     Idol' Finalists Are TV's New Odd Couple |
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