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Mydogbuffy

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 07:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I like CLay because he sings great. He has had a very humble attitude to me most of the time so he gets stressed and some folks feel that is whining - all of the contestants feel stress at some time and they all haven't been the perfect 'acceptance' candidate so you have to pick on someone that is disappointed? He sings great - that is what this competition is SINGING. I like Ruben too so I think people's selections are more of a preference to the type of music you are used to listening to. So variety makes the world go round. I wish all of them the best.

I am a little confused over why Trenyse is still there because she had a felony on her record - maybe because she confessed to it in the beginning. But Frenchie didn't commit a crime at all she was trying to earn a living - bad choice I agree but it wasn't stealing, assault or bad checks.

Monkeyboy

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 07:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ITA about Frenchie, MyDog.

Crazydog

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 07:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Buffy, yes, the reason why Trenyce is still on the show and Frenchie and Corey are not is because I'm assuming there is an extensive written application. Somewhere on there I am sure there is a question about whether you have ever been arrested. There was probably also a question about whether you have ever been paid for any kind of performance (which Frenchie had).

I think that's why Ryan said the whole thing about being dishonest in the beginning.

Kizz

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 07:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Trenyce was placed in a pre-trial diversion program, sort of like a "scared straight" type of deal. If she stays out of trouble (for what time frame was not mentioned), she will not have a record to follow her around. I guess the producers felt like it was not that big a deal compared to allegedly assaulting family members and police.

Car54

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 07:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bravisimo, Webkitty!

I liked Corey too. I did not watch the whole show last season, so have no idea how the boards were.

I like it better when we just have fun. It is not fun when we can't say something good about our guy without slamming somebody else's guy. I had fun tonight too. Glad this one is behind us.

I hope it can be about the singing from this one on (and of course the outfits!)

Tabbyking

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 07:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
seamonkey, i got and laughed at the 'wynona rider' comparison for trenyce! lol

we know she can lift her fingers off the mic-- she can lift several things off of hangers!

Jbean

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 07:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
herm, i value your opinions/posts. you do have worthy stuff to say, and i mostly agree with your opinions. we all get in funks sometimes. {{{{herm}}}}

Jbean

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 07:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
carmen's voice drives me CRAZY! i am wondering if she will be the nikki of this season.....everyone thinks she will be voted off, but keeps hanging on until she is in 3rd place. i think nikki did so well because she had a big following crowd....she was definitely unique....so people like me, with piercings and crazy hair (that like the "different" look liked and supported her, even though she wasn't the best singer. but in carmen's case, i don't really see anything that really sets her apart from anyone else. jmho.

i wil say that i was really impressed with how much nikki had improved when i saw last year's group on tour. she could have really showed simon with her perfomance of "rhiannon". she did a hell of a job. even simon would have given her props for that.

hope this post didn't offend anyone, just some random thoughts.

Iscreamer1

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 08:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi, new here! Clay fan but I have to admit he didn't do it for me tonight but then neither did any of them. I have a question though, what kind of comment was that that Simon made about It's Raining Men being Ryan's favorite song? I don't get it, but I don't always get Simon anyway.

Hermione69

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 08:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He was making a joke that Ryan is gay. Ha ha ha. Funny. Not.

Denisec1989

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 08:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Simon was poking fun at Ryan suggesting that he was gay. I don't really think he is and that Simon was just making a joke.
I hope I don't get flamed for this....I love Clay. I was for him from the get go and I still would like to see something great happen for him. But I think the problem is that he sings everything the same. He doesn't try to up his potential..show the judges what he has. Unfortunately I am beginning to wonder if he has anything more. He has a great voice, but it's not a very emotional voice. I might be getting off track here but it's hard to explain what I'm thinking!! lololol

Hummingbird

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 08:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought most of them s#cked tonight. Rueben and Kim Locke were passable. Clay has a beautiful voice but who ever heard of disco without some moving around on stage. That celebrity judge wins the award for silliest outfit and hair-do on a man. I am guessing either Ricky or Trenyce won't make the next cut.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 08:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
***Ruben is adorable and has a voice to embrace. Lose the shirt. I STILL and forever do not get why Simon thinks he stands so far above the rest. (Djgirl, help me here) He did not make his song anymore his own than another. He does not move much on the stage.

***Corey is a child in trouble. Power to him to take this experience and pull himself up from where he came. Smacks of trumped up charges.

***Trenyce made a mistake, owned it. Done. She did well. I do not, DO NOT like her clothes and hair. Something has to be done.

***Taking offense or getting upset when others do not share our take on these or Survivor contestants is copulating nonsense.

***I usually agree with Simon but he has been over the cliff harsh lately.

***Josh was beyond horrible tonight. Not his arena. His military haircut and clothes continue to be a HUGE turn off. Lose the necklace. If you are called a barber is nearby. Losen up.

***Carmen did well and did not have a hint of country in this performance. If memory serves she was one of two that actually sang Disco.

***My knowledge of Disco could be way off because music is a blind spot for me but this was NOT a disco night. Not what I like and remember anyway.

***I like Billy Joel for the most part in small doses. If anyone sings the Piano Man or Uptown Girl I will load my gun.

***I like Paula and feel the need to rush in and defend her. She does offer critisism and when she does it is more valid than Simon when he is on a grump roll. Having said that I want to travel to her face and squish it when she constantly, forever, continually makes gestures to hit Simon with her fist. Give that up Paula.

***I am not a Kim C fan but I am warming. I find myself coming to defend the constant critism of her being a good performer but not having "it". Well, she does. Look at who is selling pop CD's all over the nailing place.

Tabbyking

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 09:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
well, the only disco song i even liked way back then in my early 20's (i HAAAATED disco) was the one clay sang! i felt bad for josh. he was totally off-key, not that disco had any (i realllllly haaaaaated disco!!) but he didn't even get to hold any long notes or anything. and 'raining men' is my gay male friends' favorite song...so i did smile there, but still not a song i like very much. did i mention i absolutely haaaaated disco? shudder.
now billy joel...i don't know there, either. i think they are picking him because he was so prolific...not always terrific. i was amazed when i moved back east and how popular he was there. i heard him non-stop on the radio stations. i would rather hear 8 different renditions of bruce springsteen songs for sure!

Babyruth

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 09:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was hoping Carmen would sing "Disco Duck". LOL

Donut

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 09:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
wow! i cant believe i just read nearly 300 posts, cuz you guys were so great! i havent had a chance to be here for ages and just stayed up way too late but it was worth it cuz all your comments are just so right on and entertaining! you guys should be the judges.. so many of the comments here are things that hubby and i have been saying.. i wish tvch votes were solely responsible for the decision cuz the rest of the country just doesnt have the insight and sharpness of this group here..
and hermione... dont go! i havent met you but the few times i have been getting here, i find myself liking your posts..
I have been liking rooooben and clay the best but tonite i think i am moving Kimberly Locke up to second place..
I think that Clay is gifted with the greatest voice of them all, but I agree that for the purposes of this show, his voice alone isnt what gets someone to first place in this show..if he wins i will still be really glad. I love seeing such an atypical "star" But i also think that ruebin and kim L are very atypical too, but better performers. I almost feel that they dont have as good a voice as Clay and have to work harder to make up for it ..I just really love how Kimberly has been working so hard to lift herself from the bottom three. She and Ruben would make a great final two...they could do an animated teddy bear movie together :)
anyways, thanks for the great entertanment! but you guys are all in a heap of trouble if i fall asleep at work tommorrow and i am getting my evaluation by my boss in the morning too... oh crap...

Kellsma

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 09:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Update on the West Coast. Cannot get a vote in for Clay, Rueben or Josh. Their lines have been constantly busy. Ricky's was the next busiest. No problem getting a vote in for Kim C or Carmen or the others. I just want to see which ones seem to be the most popular and like last week it was Clay, Ruben and Josh. As soon as the phone lines opened most lines were busy but not Kim C.
We will see how it shakes out tomorrow night.

Donut

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 09:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
tabbyking-you have been cracking me up this whole thread..

babyruth-i cant believe that i didnt know that you actually watch this show!! hmmm disco duck yodeled...sounds really swell...

so am i hearing that next week is billy joel songs? i just hope that Ricky doesnt do NY state of mind in falsetto..(hey, i like ricky)

also, did i really hear that they are scrapping the Burt Bacharach What the world needs now for the god bless the usa song, for the charity single? cuz i find that really really depressing.
I will duck out now before i turn this into a hot thread...

Wcv63

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 09:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
IMO, Simon is trying to manipulate the competition with his comments regardless of the performances given by the contestants.

His criticism of Clay was that his song didn't fit the genre...horrible for the genre. Hmmmm...Barry White isn't Disco but Simon has picked out his "commercial" favorites and is promoting them via his comments.

Kim Locke's version of "It's Raining Men" started off WAY too low for her voice but she found her groove eventually. Kelly's version was better.

Trenyce's hair, clothes and contortions are really distracting.

Josh...he just bombed tonight.

Carmen did well and really tried to sell her song. I can't see her as being more of a commercial success than say....Kim C. But Simon has his mind made up plus he is defending his WC choice.

Kim C did well and I had outfits just like that in the late 70's, early 80's. Halters, jumpsuits, lycra, and silky drapy fabrics were all the rage. (My daughter also noticed that she needed to shave her underarms though)

Ricky...I was not impressed.

Clay I thought did extraordinary as did Ruben.

Clay was not "whining" at the end. He was asked and acted as sort of a group spokesperson by saying that while they respect Simon's opinion they were confused. Being confused by Simon's comments is not unique to the contestants....the fans are also confused at times.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 09:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree 100%, Wcv, and I too am confused with Simons take tonight. I usually agree, though not always with his delivery.

I do not understand why Ruben always stands out to him. Granted this boy has a fabulous voice but making the song his own, image......etc does not jibe with what I perceive to be his vision.

Just how much can one do with these songs they call Disco, anyway?

I was NOT impressed with the guest judge.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 10:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am fulling expecting tomorrow night will be different. I expect they will announce the bottom three and the loser but keep everyone.

They will say...........the good news is you ALL progress to the next round. The loser will cry and hug eveyone and be freaked. And that is understandable.

They have celebrity judges all set for the complete run and it may be hard to cancel one if the competetion is reduced by one week. The sweeps are looming also.

Muse

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 10:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree that Simon is doing his best to manipulate the outcome. He put Clay up on a pedestal (pointing out that he was a viewer favorite) in order to knock him down, IMO. I think he did the same with Justin last season (not saying that Justin deserved to win, but I think Simon did his best to try to reduce his popularity - saying that Justin was outperformed by Christina on one of her "off" nights is an example).

Unless something happens to really change his mind, I think Simon will continue to praise Ruben, regardless of how well (or poorly) he performs. I don't think Ruben did that great tonight (worst performance of his so far, IMO - not that it was so bad, but it was boring), but he received his highest praise from Simon. And obviously Simon goes really easy on Carmen because he thinks she's marketable....which is *much* worse than overlooking Ruben's faults, IMO, because she's not nearly as good of a singer.

I bet Simon will also continue to tear apart Clay, Kim L., and Trenyce, even if they put in great performances. :(

Oh, and FWIW, I think Simon has some influence on the viewers (and thus voting). He can't control them (otherwise Tamyra and Kelly would have been the final two last season), but based on what I see on message boards, I do think his comments influence things somewhat.

Rabbit

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 10:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Random thoughts.

Clays comment was as a group spokesmen. It is hard to use the judges comments for constructive criticism when they are so contradictory. Fair enough.

Treynce is no Cher. This is true, Trenyce does have a better singing voice than my cat.

My mum typed "copulating" in this thread. Some things a young buck shouldn't have to see.

Kim C. may or may not ever become a recording star but don't be surprised to see Regis and Kim C aired every morning in a couple years. She is great on camera and is an excellent performer who can carry a tune if she needs to.

Rueben. I like him alot but didn't think this was his best performance. He didn't do it as well as Barry or make it his own. Good not great.

Kim L. and Carmen seem to be getting better every week.

I find it amazing that I still haven't picked a favorite yet from Carmen, Clay, Kim, Kim, Rueben and Trenyce. Each has a particular strength I enjoy.

Serate

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 10:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"Kim C. may or may not ever become a recording star but don't be surprised to see Regis and Kim C aired every morning in a couple years."

Well Regis just MIGHT be looking for another co-host. Read on an All My Kid's page that Kelly Ripa has been signed on for a sit-com on ABC. She plays a has-been soap star who moves in with her sister.

But will Regis deal with Kim C's camera hogging personality????????

Car54

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 10:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
he he he...

"Tyrence is no Cher. This is true, Tyrence does have a better singing voice then my cat. "

I dare you to post that over in the Cat Lady thread, Rabbit.