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Ministryoftruth

Monday, February 03, 2003 - 10:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tabby -- I thought maybe I was the only one wondering about whom he may have slept with. Are we to assume from the view of the closed doors at the end of the evening that he "scored" with Sarah and Melissa? Or are the producers just toying with the viewers for ratings? Anybody?

Ministryoftruth

Monday, February 03, 2003 - 10:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This just in on Paul Hogan - - The Washington Post

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A20739-2003Feb3.html


By Lloyd Grove
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, February 4, 2003; Page C03
This Time the Butler Did Do It
Bondage-and-fetish star Sarah Kozer, a George Mason University graduate whose secret soft-porn career made headlines last week, isn't the only "Joe Millionaire" participant with a local angle and a checkered past. We hear that Paul Hogan, the very proper butler on Fox broadcasting's so-called reality show, also boasts a twisted Washington-area connection.
McLean resident Bill Paley, the son of the late, legendary CBS founder William S. Paley, e-mailed us: "Hogan...worked as renovation manager of my house in Nassau, Bahamas (Lyford Cay), just previous to his role as butler. We came to a parting of the ways after it was found that he had drained the entire wine cellar and thrown millionaire-style parties for all his Aussie friends on the island. He obviously landed on his feet."
Paley told our colleague Lisa De Moraes that he'd hired Hogan to oversee some renovations on the eight-acre estate -- where his famous father entertained the high and mighty -- but was ready to fire Hogan last October, after just a few months. Hogan beat him to the punch and quit. Hogan did not respond to a detailed request for comment.
"He was always very hard to get ahold of," Paley said. "I was going to fire him even before I found out that he threw these parties, including a big going-away party for himself, and that he and his friends drank five cases of my wine." Paley added: "It wasn't hugely expensive wine, but it was decent table wine."
Paley said that when he complained to Milwaukee-based Mahler Enterprises, the high-end domestic search firm that had recommended Hogan, "they were horrified."
Yesterday company owner Peter Mahler told us he provided Paley with a replacement without charge. "There was a problem of some kind, but we corrected it," he said, adding that Hogan, who was "highly paid," had worked for other Mahler clients without incident. "It's an unfortunate commentary on American society that, in the challenging times we live in, everyone is watching these reality programs when they could be doing some good in the world," Mahler said. "It's also ironic that this involves Bill Paley, whose father was so instrumental in creating a great television network, CBS."
Paley said he learned only by chance of Hogan's role on "Joe Millionaire." He recounted: "I was up in New York, flipping channels and caught the last two minutes of the first show, and thought, 'Who is that actor? He looks really familiar.' It took me a moment to place that Australian accent. But sure enough, it was my guy."

Mack

Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 02:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
At this point I've almost lost all interest, at least in terms of "caring", who Evan finally picks. Somehow I think it's going to be Zora only because she's the one who would survive the news that he's actually not rich the best. She holds enough of herself back, unless they're editing the video to make it seem that way, to simply look at him, say "bite me" and walk off the set.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 04:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Zmom, <<smack>>.

I don't for the life of me know why some like Zora so much. I do not care for either of them but would think Sara would be a more interesting choice for him.

Zora is witholding and uptight. I do not find those qualitites attractive in the least! Not wanting to wear a bathing suit with a beautiful body like that is not a good sign.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 04:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Serate, LOL!

Hermione69

Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 04:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
They ALL disturb me!!

Cyn

Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 05:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Good points Fruitbat and agree w/ H69.

And just want to clarify that when I said Evan! What are you doing? I was talking about the end of the show when he was in his room alone. hehehehe...

Conejo

Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 06:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Could you imagine spending the rest of your life with any of these people? Yikes!!! I'm already bored to death with this group and I only "see" them a few minutes a week and have a feeling it would be even worse in person!

Evan's clothes always looks like he slept in them and that hair OMG! His eyes are also kinda goofy -
sometimes almost looks like he's cross-eyed.

And what was up with all of that staring at Melissa's boobs? Though she didn't seem to mind - I guess it was part of getting her "game on"?????
What a <>!

Texannie

Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 06:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have decided that Zora is about to become a nun (thus the modesty) but this is her last fling before she takes her vows! ;)

John32070

Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 07:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I was glad to see Melissa dumped which I think he should have done a few weeks ago. I do like Zora, but I do agree Sara would be the better choice in the end. While both would be freaked out, I think Zora would take it worse.

Missy2

Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 07:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think what has made this show not as good as it could have been is Evan. He is big moog who seems like he couldn't make a serious commitment to begin with - does anyone else get that feeling? Its been obvious for weeks now that he would end up with Zora, but I don't really feel anything...you all know what I mean right? Its kind of just funny...I wish it was deeper..but oh well. :)

Texannie

Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 07:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Did anyone see Regis and Kelly talking about the show this am? It was hysterical!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Enbwife

Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 07:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Regis and Kelly are hillarious! Kelly could talk about reality shows the whole hour if they let her! I agree that Zora is a little uptight, especially not wanting to show her body, however, I think she has more class than the others, that's why I like her. She also does not seem to be in it just for the money. I wonder how she'll react when she finds out. I know Sarah will flip out and reject Evan if she's the chosen one. She's only in it for the money.

Lizadee

Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 08:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am not sure what is with the "Zora" body thing I am also one that will put on a swimsuit and cover it
I am not one to flaunt but then that is just me
of course I see women who do flaunt and to me that is just someone who is looking for attention I am with Zora on the cover up
Anyone else with me on this ?

Grooch

Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 08:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't blame Zora for putting a tank top on over her bathing suit. There's a big difference for me as to whether I would wear my bikini top in the privacy of a friend's house or at the beach, compared to be being filmed in it to be shown on network tv.

I've seen posts about the other girls falling out of their tops and showing nippage, etc. (at another board.) I don't blame her.

Heyltslori

Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 08:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
lol..I can't believe my "mom" just posted using the word "nippage"!!! :)

Grooch

Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 08:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP

Seamonkey

Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 08:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it is a personal choice to cover up or not. I tend to like Zora because she isn't so two faced.. the others gossip like maniacs and then turn on the charm when the target of the gossip appears.. like the camera isn't capturing it all?

What is really sad about this show (besides the whole concept) is that apparently they didn't get enough good stuff to produce so the endlessly repeat the same clips.. Evan on the earth mover thing.. and every single week Evan spends way too much time fretting about lying and what will happen when they find out.. like he couldn't imagine this ahead of time? But, sure, he's nervous but isn't there ANYTHING else to show?

Dead boring.. I agree that he's just not able to carry this show.

Well, the Butler probably has no future as a butler.. but.. he should have a bright near future on reality tv :)

Juju2bigdog

Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 08:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Did I imagine this part, or was there the very briefest scene of Evan telling Melissa she was falling out of her dress and then her adjusting it?

I was also confused about whether or not Melissa and Sarah both slept with Evan. I did notice that Zora was the only one he asked what time she woke up in the morning.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 08:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Conjo. I was thinking back to both Bachelor shows where neither man made a mention of breasts, hot rocket bodies or mused that they could not focus on what was being said do to distraction. I think they did notice but had the sense and class not to mention it.

OK, Zora, nippage and modesty...........

She applied to be on a television show so I doubt she is as modest as some of us may be. She was at the pool alone with Evan and watched as he swam clutching her very large thick terry cloth robe.

She could have easily slid it off by the edge of the pool and entered the water without parading herself in front of the camera. Certainly if you go to a seashore plenty of people see you in this apparel. I refuse to praise, make excuses or call her classy. I am not into mysterious people. They scare me.

Conejo

Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 08:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
JuJu, yes Evan did tell Melissa that she was falling out of her dress and she made an ever so slight adjustment. (I think this was part of getting her "game on").

Also, did you catch the part where he asked Zora is she bought her "breast" in Paris? (he meant to say dress)LOL. All of his gaulking seemed very staged to me or maybe he really does just stare and stare and stare. Although these hos didn't seem to mind.

It did appear that Melissa and Sarah both slept with Evan - but this could just be the editing.

Grooch

Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 09:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Alex will be one of the celebrity guests on talk show "Soap Talk" (Lisa Renna & Ty Treadway) this Wednesday February 5 on the Soap Network discussing Joe Millionaire.
www.soapnet.com

I won't be able to watch this since I will be at work and I don't get the channel, but hopefully someone else can and report back here what Alex has to say about why they cut her out of the show.

Twinkie

Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 09:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The butler did it!!!!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A20739-2003Feb3.html

Grooch

Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 09:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fruitbat, I heard Aaron interviewed on the Howard Stern show and he spoke of what he did back at his hotel room everynight after the dates to release the tension of being around so many beautiful women.

As to Zora, I still think this could be the reason why she covered up. I am not crazy about her at all. She is to uptight and restrained. But I wonder if Aaron was Joe Millionaire and not Evan, she might be enjoying herself more. I would clam up also and be praying for the date to be over if I had to go out with Evan.

I hope Sarah wins. At least she is enjoying herself andtrying to have a good time.

Pamy

Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 09:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Nippage!! LOL Is that an actual word?? I am going to work that word into a sentence today!! LOL