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Prisonerno6

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 04:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Just did a google groups search, and there are several articles posted around about this:

Newsgroups postings on Corey Clarke eviction

Llkoolaid

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 04:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I would like to see Julia come back too, just because I always thought Corey should have gone before her. The scary thing is that if they do take someone back and the judges decide, it will likely be Charles. Paula and Randy will pick him.

Car54

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 05:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well I would be good with that. Charles hasn't been arrested yet. Heck, Julia didn't even go home yet. Can't bring her back already.

Frenchy isn't looking that bad now.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 05:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Julie Chen just announced that Julia DeMato was going to be on next. That puts her in NY. Unlikely she can get to LA in time to rehearse and be ready for tonight. Technically she could make a flight, I suppose, but if they knew she was coming back they would have cancelled that interview and brought her back yesterday or at the very least, last night. Not sounding good for Julia.

They could bring Vanessa back figuring the scripted line was at fault and it was their mistake. Charles and Julia were voted out without any question mark.

Fluff

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 05:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh my gosh!

Fruitbat

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 05:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Julie just asked Julia about what was going to happen now that Corey had been eliminated. She said she didn't know, she had just heard about this herself.

Car54

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 05:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Is she in the studio or doing a remote?

I don't think they will bring her back outright.

How about a vote off like a wild-card...let America bring back their choice of Charles Vanessa or Julia.

I would vote for Vanessa...she got screwed.

Prisonerno6

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 05:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
There's an argument to be made for each of the eliminated to come back:

Julia - Last out, first back
Charles - Would have gotten the teenybobber vote if not for Corey
Vanessa - Whoever would have had Corey's place in the final 12 could have been voted off first instead, giving her another week to gel with the audience

Heck, I can even make the argument for Patrick the rocker to be brought back -- he came in third in his round, losing out to Corey.

The fair thing would be to let the viewers decide. Have to show as planned tonight, eliminate tomorrow -- but then let the four eliminated singers compete for a comeback spot to be voted by the audience tomorrow night.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 05:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
She was live in the studio. I suppose it could have been taped yesterday and inserted. I forgot to pay attention to Julies clothes but if they were trying to cover it she would have worn the same thing to confuse that I would think. Maybe not. I will check again when it comes on in LA.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 05:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I can make a case for either Julia or Vanessa, not Charles though. It will be a judges decision and how could they overlook the controversy over the scripted line. Her voice was clearly the best. They never praised Julia or Charles but did give some Kudos to Vanessa.

They really have to bring someone back. Wednesdays show would be pointless. We would just hear them sing the group number, the fill in stuff with absolutely no point to the show at all. The ratings would be nil and they DO NOT want that. This is an opportunity to get even more viewers.

Prisonerno6

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 06:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oooh, oooh!

Perfect change to bring back Frenchie. After all, she's never been convicted of a crime, unlike another remaining contestant. ;-)

Fruitbat

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 06:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That would never happen. Talk about not reasonable of fair. Of course fair does not enter this though. Judges make the decisions for the good of the contest.

Llkoolaid

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 06:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"The fair thing would be to let the viewers decide. Have to show as planned tonight, eliminate tomorrow -- but then let the four eliminated singers compete for a comeback spot to be voted by the audience tomorrow night."

I think whaT prisonerno6 said is the best idea. Plus it would fill in some time in that useless hour long show.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 06:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't see there being enough time to rehearse and get the music set up for the eliminated to compete to come back. Setting up more phone lines would be involved as well.

They will bring someone back. The only way we will know ahead of time would be for someone, really into to, it living in LA to post on a board that they saw one of them enter the house or studio where they rehearse.

Ladytex

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 06:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, I doubt that Vanessa will be coming back now. Apparently she's posing nude for a frickin' PETA ad. The blurb is after the J-Lo/Ben stuff.
The Scoop Column Link

Fruitbat

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 07:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I doubt they would have a problem with that. I don't think Frenchie would have been eliminated if not for the unfortunate placement of her picture (in lingerie, not naked) on a site that also displayed child porn.

Vanessa's picture sounds cute, they will be using it for an advertisment so I expect it will be tasteful and discreet.

It is common for actresses and contestents on these shows to have nude pictures in their background.

Joe Millionaire had Sara who posed for bondage pics.

Jill on Married in America was in Playboy.

Brian on Survivor starred in soft porn.

I am sure there are more that are slipping my mind.

Pagal

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 07:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Nikki from the first A.I. was a stripper.

Essence

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 07:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
As much as I did like Charles, I don't think any of them should be brought back. They were voted out of the competition. I personally don't think Vanessa's line had anything to do with her not getting the votes. IMHO, her song was not very good that first week. Charles (according to many of you) didn't do a good job the week he was voted out. Julia has consistently been in the bottom three...saying no matter what she tried to do, the voting public did not like her. Bring her back for what? So she can be in the bottom three again?

Joshua will probably be deployed, and I'm guessing people won't vote for Trenyce now that her past has come out. As long as nothing comes out about Ruben I'm happy.

If they do decide to bring someone back, I say whoever had the next highest votes after Clay for the wildcard slot should be given a chance. I think a couple of them were better than Carmen anyway. I'd rather hear someone new over the three that have already been eliminated.

Ginger1218

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 07:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Why do they have to bring anybody back? Can't they just go on from here?

Pagal

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 07:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think A.I. should just continue on course and end the series a week early. I don't think it would be fair to bring anyone "new" into the mix now that we've all grown attached to our favorites and it wouldn't be fair for a current contestant to be booted over someone who sings one time and catches the audience's favor. JMHO.

Pagal

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 07:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
My feelings exactly Ginger accept that you said it better! LOL

Ladytex

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 07:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think they should go forward from here and with the one or two (if Josh gets deployed) extra weeks, pull a Joe Millionaire and show outtakes, scenes from the house, musical numbers from the tour or something like that

Fruitbat

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 07:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The reason the number was increased to 12 from 10 was to make May sweeps for ratings. I doubt they want to end a week early since they went through a lot at the last minute to extend the show.

They could just go on and have Weds show without much interest. Their ratings would be harmed and this is a major factor. They will have to come up with something to keep it's viewers.

Maybe Tuesday will come and go with only a mention of Corey and tempt us with a "suprize" for Wed. It will turn out to be no big deal.

I still think they want this show to run the 12 weeks and will have to replace Corey.

I can see them announcing someone will return and have them last and we will not know until they come out on stage.

Essence

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 07:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fruitbat, just curious...why would ratings be harmed for Wednesday's show if they don't bring anyone back?

I also don't see a need to bring anyone back. Just making suggestions on how they should do it if they were going to.

Corey wasn't going to win anyway, he's just leaving a little early. I'm sorry that it has to be like this. I liked him.

Conejo

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 07:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I say just go on from here. If they really want the show to run the full 12 weeks certainly they can find some way to drag it out. (Just look at how they drug out that show on Wednesday)