Archive through March 22, 2003
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Archive through March 22, 2003
Walker | Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 01:57 pm     whoami..i really haven't noticed anyone trying to make an issue out of reubens size infact he has had less said about his size than a lot of the others who weigh a heck of a lot less..i think reubens been lucky to have made it as far as he has being a huge guy and not having much said about it. |
Fruitbat | Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 02:37 pm     I didn't get that at all about Ruben! No one has made a peep about his size and there was an uneven number. Some male had to stand alone in the middle and for the balance and visual aesthetics he was the obvious choice. No big deal. He is used to maneuvering in the world with his weight and runs into stuff like this all the time. I sense he is loved by everyone and respected. |
Car54 | Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 03:05 pm     In the auditions, was it Ruben that wore the fancy long suit coat that Simon didn't like and his dad came and sassed back or was that someone else that didn't make it? For some reason I think it was someone else, but I can't picture the guy's face. |
Pagal | Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 03:08 pm     It was somebody else but I can't think of his name to save my life!! |
Pagal | Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 03:09 pm     It was Patrick Fortson! |
Car54 | Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 03:12 pm     Yes, yes, yes! I remember him now... I liked him but I think that little conflict hurt him. Thanks Pagal.... I had him merged with Ruben in my head, but I have not seen Ruben in anything but his big tshirts so I thought I had to be wrong. |
Pagal | Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 03:16 pm     You're welcome! I agree that his Dad taking the stage hurt Patrick's chances. I didn't like the families involvement in the show - hope they don't do that again. I'm assuming of course that there will be an A.I. 3! LOL |
Whoami | Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 03:22 pm     Well then, maybe it's just me then. I do remember Ryan's remark just before they went to break a couple of episodes ago. He said something like, "nobody, especially you Rueben is allowed to go stage diving." I saw Rueben start to laugh a bit, then get a "oh, I see what you're saying" look on his face, just as the camera faded to commercial. Ryan just seem to make quite a few digs like that, and I'm just not okay with it. I'm ultra sensitive to the way fat people are singled out in TV, such as the staging of that song last night. He was put there because of his size, and that's what bugs me. I do agree he is loved and respected by all. Wasn't it Gladys who said, after the first three words of his song last night, he had her in the palm of her hand, or something like that? How true that was! |
Fruitbat | Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 03:34 pm     ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeah, I do remember that now. Ryan Seacrest is............hmmmm........acts like an idiot. I don't put placing him center stage in the same catagory, though. The judges are cool with Ruben. |
Fluff | Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 04:12 pm     Whoami, I thought that was offensive. And I thought it was offensive when he called Randy "The Nutty Professor" also, although Randy didn't seem to care. It's wrong, and the writers should be sued! No one ever told him to wear girlie shirts to get picked on. That was his choice.  |
Babyjaxmom | Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 05:21 pm     Did anybody else think it was a little weird how they had Josh and Carmen all "cozy" on the stage together during the couples song? She was sitting between his legs, a step in front of him on the edge of the stage. I just kept wondering how Josh's wife felt about that. I know it's just an act, but it would have felt weird if I was his wife. Also did anybody else think Ryan was really rude to Simon's mum when he made fun of her for messing up her lines? If I was Simon, I would have smacked him for dissing my mom! Realmom, it was a few posts back, but I'm with you on Simon. He may be brutal at times, but at least he's honest. Which is more than you can say for wishy-washy Randy and suck-up Paula. I had to laugh at Paula being so upset that Charles had to go. She seems to forget that its an elimination and SOMEBODY has to go each week. Who would she rather have seen go? Probably one of the girls, since she's always all over the guys, no matter how bad they are. |
Walker | Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 06:36 pm     babyjaxmom..from what i can tell josh and his wife seem to have a pretty strong relationship i can tell he loves his family very much and seems very devoted to them and i think his wife is probably secure enough in their relationship to not let something as petty as that bother her..JMO |
Jenhavins | Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 07:07 pm     Simon and Ryan are great friends outside the show (vacation together, double date together, etc). I am sure that alot of what Ryan says is scripted. I don't think he meant to be rude to Simon's mom. And if he did, Simon will surely say something to him! |
Happyhounds | Friday, March 21, 2003 - 11:07 am     I agree Baby. I couldn't belive Paula on ET saying America made a mistake in voting out Charles ( I personally didn't like his style of singing... Go..Clay..Go). Just how important does she think she is. If anyone really cared it would be the Paula Abdul Idol. I like Simon, he at lest tells the truth and yes <>. |
Walker | Friday, March 21, 2003 - 12:58 pm     i agree happyhounds..i dont know what paula is talking about and i don't know what it was about charles that made her think he was so great..maybe he was a nice guy but you have to be more than a nice guy to make it in that business and as far as im concerned charles just didnt have the talent and its that simple..its kind of odd that no one shedded a tear when vanessa got the boot, at least i didnt see it if they did. |
Essence | Friday, March 21, 2003 - 01:45 pm     But that's just it happyhounds/walker...it's all about personal taste. I happen to disagree with you that Charles doesn't have talent. I think he does. I enjoyed his performance on Tuesday, but I do realize and accept that others didn't. Apparently Paula enjoyed Charles and was upset to see him go. What's so wrong about that. I was upset to see him go too. My personal opinion was that it should have been Julia, and had it been her others would have been upset that she was gone. Everyone is not going to be pleased with the outcomes...and that makes sense because not everyone has the same tastes in music. |
Prisonerno6 | Friday, March 21, 2003 - 02:51 pm     From a statistical viewpoint...it's interesting that we keep talking about who should go, but the voting is about who should stay. That may be why people in our poll here do pretty well in picking the bottom three, but not as well in picking the one to go. Statistically speaking, there's probably little difference in the number of calls for the bottom and for the top (think of a U shaped curve instead of a bell-shaped curve), so it's really luck o fthe draw who goes. That will get harder as we go along. |
Pantageas | Friday, March 21, 2003 - 03:09 pm     Actually, PrisonerNo6, I expect it to get EASIER as we go along. The beginning is harder because you don't know who the audience will connect with. Lots of people thought that Carmen was one of the "worst" 3 in performance each of the first 2 weeks. But like you said, the voting is not who the public thinks should go, but who they want to stay. She had enough fan support to keep her safe. The folks who are in danger right now aren't the ones that are "bad"; it's the ones who aren't distinguishing themselves. Ricky, Kim L. I'm talking about YOU! Once we get to 6 or 7 left, picking between Corey and Clay or Julia and Ruben will be simple. Last year, I only made two wrong calls out of the final 10 - I thought that both Cristina and Tamyra went too early. I think what's making it hard this year is that people learned that you can give extra life to your favorites by voting early and often(ala Nikki)... |
Walker | Friday, March 21, 2003 - 03:26 pm     essence..you are right it is a matter of preference and im not knocking charles fans..i should have said that he didnt appeal to me but that doesnt mean that others didnt enjoy his performances..everybody is different but that is sometimes difficult for human beings to accept..we tend to get upset and even angry when others dont agree with us or see things our way..i shouldnt have attacked paula for having an opinion, and charles did appear to be a super nice guy. |
Essence | Friday, March 21, 2003 - 04:53 pm     Walker, I hear you on that one. I find myself getting upset with posts sometimes when people don't like who I like...especially during BB & Survivor. Sometimes I keep comments to myself for fear that what I say will be taken out of context or taken the wrong way. Your opinion is just as valid as anyone elses...I just wanted to point out that Charles has fans (including Paula) that wanted to see him go a little further in the show. |
Beachcomber88 | Friday, March 21, 2003 - 07:13 pm     I'm getting tired of Ruben along with his stupid 205 t-shirts. He may play it off as a way to give some props to his hometown, but I'm thinking that there's just nothing nice to wear for someone his size. I can't stand people who find Ruben adorable and call him a big teddy bear. Why is this always said about large men but the same is not true for large women? Kim L. is not small by any means, but her weight has not so far become a big issue. If she packed on another roobinesque 100 pounds, I'm sure we would find her unattractive. |
Walker | Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 09:37 am     uh oh beachcomber..thems fighting words for some Ruben fans. |
Llkoolaid | Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 09:44 am     Charles was a sweetheart, reminded me of someones little brother, but I really don't see how he made the final 32. He is off key a lot, misses a lot of notes and has no power,no ummph so to speak. When I listened to him I wanted to give him a little shove to get him going. It is like he is afraid to open up and let go. To me he is the male version of Julia, a nicer version of Corey and a lot better than Carmen but I think they all should go. |
Car54 | Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 11:19 am     Essence, I liked Charles too. He had a very sweet, happy energy onstage and I think he would have improved with more experience. H guess I am not as picky as some about the vocal part. I never thought he would win, but I hoped that he would make it further. I am glad that the finalists get to participate in other things after the winners are announced that will be very cool for him. |
Happyhounds | Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 02:09 pm     My point is: whether or not you like someone, and it is personal preference, what gives Paula the right to get on national television and say that people didn't vote properly by not voting for Charles. It's my quarter, if I want to vote for someone that's my business and I am not wrong in doing so just because it doesn't agree with her. Simon, in my opinion, is the only one that tells it like it is and I hate the way some of the "kids" talk back to him. I know it's encouraged by Ryan but I personally wouldn't vote for someone that was that rude. There. I've had my say for the time being. Have a great day |
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