Archive through March 26, 2003
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Archive through March 26, 2003
Beachcomber88 | Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 11:22 pm     Reading through the threads, I'd have to agree with Crazydog and Fruitbat. I'm not a Josh fan. I also thought it was a bit "convenient" that they changed the format to country - or rather country crossover. Wcv, you're right, Josh and Carmen were the only true country songs. Where was Achy Breaky Heart? Josh obviously did well, but this is not Nashville Star. I'd disagree with you Ace about Josh being in trouble if this were a disco show. Can you imagine that country twang singing Macho Man? Ring My Bell? His I Will Survive was comical - that was a preview of what we were going to hear. Here's hoping they go back to disco next week. Or whatever happened to the Billy Joel night? I'd love to see Josh butcher Piano Man. |
Seamonkey | Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 11:48 pm     BC, is there anyone you like? I certainly don't see a conpiracy and agree with whoever said that it would have been to Josh's advantage to have country come a bit later. This was Clay's lowest ebb, tonight.. nothing really wrong but just didn't seem like his heart was in it.. didn't see that spark in him. He's allowed to have an off night. I also thought Trenyce was at a low. Ruben.. YES I also thought he's lost some weight and he DID have a really nice spark and seemed to get into the music. Kim L.. Best so far (except rainbow). Kim C.. Best so far for her too Carmen Best so far for her.. Julia Not bad, actually and I'd so tired of hearing Randy and Paula throw out "pitchy" when they gush all over Corey and Rickey. Corey.. terrible.. but for me best hairstyle so far.. Much as I love braided dos.. I don't think he has the face or head for it. Rickey did ok.. I just don't care for his type of voice. Corey should be the one to go.. IMO Hermi.. I'll check the aol poll to see if there is any change since it was listed above.. they didn't have a link on the welcome screen tonight and the number of votes was WAY WAY down when I voted. OK.. not much change,, total at 33000. Clay down to 37%, Ruben up to 26% .. all other % the same but Carmen now a few votes ahead of Julia. |
Car54 | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 12:53 am     Those of you who think the Country change favored Josh...does that mean when they sang Motown they were favoring Trenyce or Ruben? They are singing all genres...they said there was an issue with celebrity judge scheduling. Josh is doing pretty well with the polls..why would they chose this week to "favor" him. If that was the case, why not wait til it looks like he is low in the polls? |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 02:51 am     It wouldn't have helped Simon to listen to these songs ahead of time. He cannot connect with Country music. He just would have had to endure Wild Hearts twice, something I would not wish on anyone. I am tired of Randy and Paula and their praising everyone, willi nilly, too. Olivia was useless! I agree with Simon most of the time and enjoyed his confusion last night. Very funny. |
Stcmom | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 03:30 am     Last nights show was a difficult one for me because I have always avoided country songs. I just don't enjoy listening to them and the only ones I usually can tolerate are Shania, some of Faith Hill and Leanne Rimmes songs, but I hear these are not really considered country. I really do not believe this category was chosen to favor Josh...he really was not in trouble to go this week. It would have favored him more if country was done in later weeks cause he would have made a bigger impression and help him towards the final four. I think this actually favored the Trenyce because although she sounded dreadful last night and probably would be one of the bottom three, it is better that she got this performace out of the way early because she can afford to lose a little support since she was so good last week. Now she can just put this behind her and try to concentrate on styles that would suit her more. Ruben had the best performance last night, mainly because of his song choice. It was fun and he sang it with an R&B flavor that made the song perfect for him. Clay was great but he chose the wrong song...it was too low keyed that it really didn't have his usual spark...he can do country cause I have heard him sing "i'm not supposed to Love you anymore" and it had so much passion it it is now one of my favorite songs, I was really disappointed he didn't choose to sing it...it was still the second best performance of the night. After Trenyce the worst performance for me was Corey and rickey...the don't have problem with upper register tones it is their approach to these notes that could be shaky. |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 04:03 am     Again. Disco was moved to another week because of judge scheduling. Country was this week because Olivia was available. Ryan announced this at the beginning of the show. Each week there will be a theme. Some will shine because it is their genre some will not. There is no manipulation to favor anyone. Simon is running the show because he is the one signing the winner. I seriously doubt he would tilt things to favor a country singer even if he could! |
Mush | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 04:12 am     I'm not a country fan at all, but I DO like country rock. Sweet Home Alabama is definitely coutry rock, and a couple of the others were close, but nearly all of the songs tonight were NOT country rock. Anyway, this brings up the question about what happens if the chosen song just doesn't fit the catagory? I mean, if it's disco and Clay sings a nice Carol King song, is there anything that happens? If the producers approved all of these songs as country rock, I'm pretty disappointed in their knowledge of music. |
Scribe | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 04:19 am     Ok - missed the first 3 singers - sorry - but will take others comments into account - 1. Still Clay - though agree not his best night - seemed less animated - 2. Ruben - really good - would take him over Clay but I just like Clay. 3. Josh - didn't hear him but sounds like he was good and I like him. 4. Kim C - her voice is off sometimes - she is lovely and has a engaging stage presence - but her voice seems off at time. 5. Corey - I know I am really off the majority - but I like his voice - what am I missing - loved his hair last night but I liked his kind of singing - am I out on a limb here - is he this years Nikki - can't figure out why I like him and NO ONE else does. 6. I guess Trenyce - she has a good voice but she does bug me with all the facials and gestures - 7/8 - Ricky and Carmen - both nice - Carmen looks great - but neither really gets to me. 9. Kim L - doesn't do it for me 10. Julia JUlia Julia - she was a bit better this week but she is far below the rest. |
Kady | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 04:24 am     I have been reading this thread trying to gather my thoughts on last nights show so I could make my predictions in Puttergirls' poll. I am having such a hard time trying to pick. Nobody really shined. I love Clay but he is starting to sound the same. I normally love Trenyce but she had no sparkle and looked like she didn't enjoy herself. Corey is one I dislike but he looked like he had fun and I also like "Drift Away". I love the song "Anymore" by Travis Tritt but didn't like Kim C's rendition of it. There is something I don't like about Kim L...I don't think I can get over her attitude. I was hoping Carmen would do better so I could justify my calling and voting for her. Josh should have did a different Garth song, although I think he was the only one who stuck with the theme. Rickey just seems so darn sweet, I'm not ready for him to leave. Ruben was probably the best last night. He is the favorite of my son. And last but not least..Julia..she has a nice voice but no performing skills. And now I see, after writing this down, I still don't know who to pick. |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 04:27 am     Last night really illustrated how important song choice is. Ruben could not have picked a more perfect song for him and he shined. I bet the entire state of Alabama voted for him, LOL! Clay was definitely missing a spark. He looked tired. My poor Clay. I voted for both Clay and Ruben and could not get through for either of them for 45 minutes. Clay's line continued to be busy sporadically for another 15 minutes. FWIW. I, too, wondered if the producers approve the music choices. You would think, wouldn't you?! Overall, last night was my least favorite show so far. I should have gone to see Lord of the Rings in open caption one last time! |
Pagal | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 04:39 am     I couldn't watch Trenyce sing once her fingers started tapping the microphone - it drives me nuts and, believe me you, its a short trip. Julia always looks pained - she did sing better last night though. Ruben was wonderful! I loved seeing him get into the song and dance around. I agree that he looked thinner - good for him! Clay was short-changed by not being able to hear what the other judges felt about his performance -I hope it doesn't affect the votes for him. Hated Corey's clothes. Kim C.: Just doesn't cut it for me - her voice is always raspy and just doesn't do anything for me. Kim L.: I can't get past her initial attitude either. Ricky: He's growing on me. Joshua: I thought he brought a lot of spunk to his performance but I didn't hear anything unique in his voice. Carmen: Can't get past the yodel. Anyhoo, just my own humble opinions. FWIW. |
Stcmom | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 04:44 am     Some inside info from the bolt boards from a friend of Clay's mom, She (Clay's mom)only found out about the theme change yesterday and apparently she was speaking to Clay on Monday and Clay seems really tired and has been preparing for the disco theme most of the week..about the song choices, apparently they are limited to songs that have been pre-approved by the people that hold the copyright. If there was very little time to prepare there may have been problems getting approval for some songs. This would explain why most of them had a tough time last night, and some songs seem inappropriate...lack of preparation. But I guess this is part of the test, how they can work under pressure. |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 05:23 am     Good info Stcmom, thanks. |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 05:59 am     Thanks for sharing that, Stcmom. I can't imagine the pressure they are all under, but I agree that needing to shine under pressure is part of the package. |
Walker | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 06:27 am     crazydog..i totally agree with your conspiracy theory. |
Prisonerno6 | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 06:29 am     That's a good point about being able to shine under pressure. All of them had to change their songs at the last minute, and a few of them did really well at it. Of course, I suspect Ruben sings Sweet Home, Alabama a *lot* :-), but I thought the Kims really came through with their choices. Clay and Trenyce just didn't seem as polished, and I'm afraid that will affect their chances over the long haul -- because I wouldn't be surpised if the producers pick some more switcheroos to keep everyone on their toes. After all, they've only been at this for a few weeks -- they have at least two months to go yet, so it's pretty early to be blaming a lackluster performance on being tired. It ain't gonna get any easier. |
Conejo | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 06:33 am     I didn't really think that any of them did a great job SINGING last night. Josh running all over the place drove me crazy! I agree with Simon - he needs to lose some weight. His facial contortions while singing look painful. Trenyce probably had the best voice last night - just no 'sparkle'. IMO Corey, OMG he's got to go! What was with that hair-do????? And his "upper register" screaming made my cat jump off the sofa and run for cover! Ruben just doesn't do it for me. Ricky, just can't stand to look at this guy and his voice is not to my liking. Kim C. - maybe a job on Carnival Cruise Lines, maybe? Kim L. - very good job last night. Clay - didn't have much spark last night. Julia - much improved - but still not much stage presence. Carmen - good choice of songs - but still out of her league. JMHO |
Opie | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 06:48 am     I agree with Mush. Am I the only one who thought Eagles, Neil Young, Linda Ronstadt, etc when they heard country/rock? Ruben is the only one who hit the genre on the head, IMO. Corey was close, but that bleeds into country/soul more than rock. I think Clay should have sung an Eagles or Don Henley song. How good would Desperado or Peaceful Easy Feeling have sounded? Oh well, maybe the lack of prep time played heavily. I don't understand the judges fascination with Corey, but I thought he was one of the better ones last night. The whole show felt slapped together and most everyone looked uncomfortable to me. Hope that was the low point of the series. |
Conejo | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 07:27 am     Opie, I agree, most of the songs were NOT country/rock. I thought that they had a "list" of songs that they picked from. Is the "list" not sorted out by theme? |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 07:38 am     I thought so, Conejo. Possibly, too, they didn't have time to get a lot of songs approved by the original artists if this was not a genre they were planning on so it may have been a short list. While I agree that the contestants need to shine under pressure, I don't think switching genres on them a day or two before the show is going to do anything but give us more lackluster performances. Even the best performers have plenty of practice time. No one is going to walk up to Luther Vandross or Elton John two days before a performance and tell them they have to sing other types of songs. If last night's show is any indication, this would not be a good trend. I can tell a huge number of us were disappointed with last night's show and I don't think that is a coincidence. The show comes with enough pressure in itself and having them switch genres every week shows us their versatility. Switching genres again mid-week without giving them ample practice time shortchanges them and us. |
Pamy | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 07:40 am     I loved Josh last nite!!! He was so cute performing that song! I have not liked Corey until last nite, he was so sexy chewing that gum, I thought he sounded great, unlike previous weeks. I love Ricky but I am afraid he will go soon. He seems like the sweetest person, I hope good things happen for him. Kim was better than usual tonite also. Carmen always starts out weak but starts really singing in the middle and end, I think she will grow into a great singer. I agree w/Simon about Clay last nite, but then again most could only hope to sound like him 2 weeks in a row. Clay’s voice is so beautiful, it makes me want to go make out with my hubby. I think Clay will record a song that will be played at weddings for years to come. I didn’t like Trenyce at all, I thought she was the worst last night. I never could get thru to Josh’s # last night but got right thru to Ricky’s every time I called, so I am fairly sure he will be in the bottom 3 |
Dahli | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 07:41 am     MGA - you're such a sweetie for throwing some votes in for Kim C for me! It feels like I'm more a part of it now. Thanks so much! |
Prisonerno6 | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 07:45 am     "No one is going to walk up to Luther Vandross or Elton John two days before a performance and tell them they have to sing other types of songs." I don't remember the details, but didn't this happen on some awards show last year (the Oscars?!?)? The performer of the song up for an award backed out at the very last minute, and someone had to fill in for her with almost no rehearsal time. She was praised for how good a job she did stepping into another person's song with little notice, and I'm even thinking it was someone like Faith Hill or Shania Twain (known more for country pop) doing something outside their comfort zone. I think that's a good test of talent. And I bet Luther and Elton did a lot of singing whatever needed to be sung in the early days of their careers... |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 07:48 am     I knew you wouldn't agree with me. No surprise there. I think my point stands. In the general scheme of things, performers get practice time 99.9999% of the time. If they keep doing this we are going to see lackluster performances from ALL of them. I think some of them got very lucky by having a song perfect for them fall in their lap and may not be so lucky next time. I do not want to see this "trend" continue. |
Opie | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 07:49 am     It was Faith Hill and she had to take over for Whitney Houston who had "fallen ill". |
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