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Jhezzie

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 11:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nerd Alert!!!

Rule Of Aquisition #35: Caressing an ear is often more forceful than pointing a weapon.

Realfan

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 11:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks so much for the link to the wonderful site of Clay's songs!! I've listened to Solitaire three times now. He has to put it on his first CD!!

I'm sorry Kim went home, but she did so well, she deserves a ton of praise. (Gawd, do I sound like Paula, or what??) Great things are bound to come her way, and I believe that to be true of all of the top three.

Prisonerno6

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 03:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"the votes will go to Ruben simply because both he and Kim are African-American."

Does that mean Clay is getting some of Josh's votes just because both of them are white?

Prisonerno6

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 04:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
BTW, I read in some thread about some one saying the phrase "white bread pop idol" referred to Clay's race. In my experience, calling something "white bread" means you're saying it's light and fluffy and completely bland -- think WonderBread. It isn't necessarily a reference to race, or at least the phrase didn't start in general usage as such. Personally, "white bread" is the last thing I'd call Clay (or *any* of the finalists). Even if I don't care for his style, there is nothing, light or fluffy or bland about it.

Bracken

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 06:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I taped the first half hour of the show and when Justin was introduced, Brian said that Unchained Melody was going to be on his CD which is being released in June.

Now, am I nuts are do you think that 19 Entertainment decided for a variety of reasons to do the following:

1) Purchase rights to a song and then have multiple performers under contract to them sing it. (Is there an economy of scale going on here?)

2) Use the viewers as a test market to see which songs they are talking about, partial to, to put on the CD's of their singers.

I think there has to be a reason, either marketing or monetary in the decision to have various performers sing the same song.

I agree with Rabbit, it would great if both Clay and Ruben performed the same song for the final to see how their interpretations differed and whose we preferred.

And, again, for all of you who hate "Over The Rainbow," I certainly did, give a listen to Eva Cassidy's arrangement, you won't even think it is the same song Judy Garland sang.

Texannie

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 06:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I wondered about the post from yesterday where someone said that Ryan apologized to the audience that Clay didn't really go up on his lines, but had been asked to stretch cause they sure hammered him for forgetting the lyrics in the recaps!
Didn't care for Tamara's "Somewhere"..too long.
Justin got totally outshown by Clay!
I really wish we could have done what Simon had suggested and keep all 3.

Grooch

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 06:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Did anyone watch the show last night in NYC?

I have direct tv, so I watched AI on the NY station, instead of my local. After the show (or was it during) there was a commercial for their local news at 10 saying that there was some type of scandal with calling in votes the night before in that area. I forgot to turn back in for the 10 o'clock news.

Did anyone see the story and can post what it was about?

Djgirl5235

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 06:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Texannie - it was me who posted it, and I found the info over at Realitytvtalk.com. One of the regular posters over there has gone to a few live shows and was there on Tuesday night. He was the one to let everyone know about the apology. I'm really unimpressed with the bias that seems to be forming on the show JMO

Ladytex

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 06:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Finally got to see the tape late last night. I love Tamyra, but I wish she could have sung the title song from Luther's new CD like she did on Boston Public, that was seriously awesome!! I thought she should have won last year and nothing so far has changed my mind. On the other hand, maybe she will come out on top by not winning. She got wonderful exposure on that TV show, she has a great team putting together her new CD, and she didn't have to be in that questionable movie. I didn't like Justin last year and again nothing so far has changed my mind. Yuk!
I'm really sad that Kim is gone, but I know that with her voice and the contacts she has made on this show, she'll come out just fine. Between Simon, Gladys Knight, and Smokey Robinson, she will get hers. But, dang, I really wanted her and Ruben to sing together ... sigh

Texannie

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 06:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
GJgirl..wonder why they would apologize to the audience but yet let the public still think he messed up..sounds very biased doesn't it???
I wonder if we can raise a stink!! I am smelling scandal! LOL

Twinkie

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 07:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I found both Justin's and Tamyra's singing sooo inferior to any of the final 3 from this year. I think that all of this year's contestants really raised the bar from last year. I don't think that even Kelly can hold a candle to the singing ability of Clay, Ruben, or Kim. I see great things ahead for all 3 of them. I would buy all of their CDs.

Crazydog

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 07:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bastable, I do agree, I think many of the people who were Kim fans might just not vote. I certainly won't be fanatically trying to vote for either Clay or Ruben. But if I were to vote, I would vote for Ruben. I prefer the R&B sound to the schmaltzy Broadway sound.

Twinkie

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 07:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
But, Crazydog, that is the great thing about this contest. There are such diversified loves of music among people. Some like country and some hate it. Some like soft rock and some hate it. Some like R&B and some hate it etc, etc, etc.

That's why its such a good idea to have America decide who they want their American Idol to be. At one time I didn't feel that way. I thought that the judges should decide because they have the background and experience in the music world. But now I truly believe that we should make the decision who we want to be our next American Idol. And at this point in the competition I don't really care which one wins. I will be happy because I think they are both very talented and I know that they will both have successful careers.

Hobbs

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 07:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Deej, you know I love you, but (there's always a but) I think that poster was full of BS. We would have heard this somewhere else. There were a lot more people in the audience. If anyone has a tape of the show, time the songs. I believe each song is supposed to be about 1-1/2 minutes. I do know that they are all suppposed to be the same length so as not to give an unfair advantage.

I'm the first to believe in conpiracies (remember Carmen?), but (there's that but again) I can't go for this one.

Hobbs

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 07:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
<Holding my paws up to form a cross with my claws to keep Evil Twinkie away>

BLASPHEMY! Saying Kelly can't hold a candle to Ruben, Clay or Kim. BLASPHEMY!

Djgirl5235

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 08:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hobbs - I have been scouring the boards, and it's on Sucks, RealitytVtalks, and also on one of the morning radio programs yesterday - if it was just ONE person, I would have thought nothing of it, but since there's too many places that this has shown up I tend to believe it... I may be misinterpreting what exactly they did to him - maybe they changed the verse on him, I don't know, in any case, it was done 25 minutes before the program... I love you too, even if you don't believe me!

Brenda1966

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 08:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Goodness, if Unchained Melody is going to be released as a single for Justin, I have some serious doubts about his album. I thought his rendition was simply awful. That song usually gives me goosebumps, but last night I didn't feel a thing. Why would they choose such a high profile and beloved song to have him redo? It doesn't make much sense to me.

As a die-hard Clay fan I can tell you that if he went home last night, I wouldn't vote at all in the finals. So I hope the Kim fan's don't jump on the Ruben bandwagon.

It was so sweet to see tears in Clays eyes when his buddy Kim was singing at the end. What a great group of kids.

Grooch

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 08:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Brenda, I am a Kim fan, and my vote is for sale.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hermione69

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 08:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hmmm, okay Grooch, what can I do for you? Track down the evil immunity idol and smash it??

Heavenly

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 09:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Last night's show was a difficult one
for me because I have come to love
Kimberley and thought her last performance
was great. However, I think Ruben and
Clay are deserving to be in the final two.

Justin and Tamyra, in my humble opinion,
could have stayed home. I loved them
both last year, but those songs sucked!!

Both Ruben and Clay were teary eyed with
Kim's departure and I must admit so was I.

Hermione69

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 09:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Heavenly, I always enjoy your posts. You are a very sweet person.

Brenda1966

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 09:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Name your price Grooch -- I'm not above buying Clay a few votes! :)

Snee

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 09:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
has anyone heard bruddah is's (hawaiian man whose last name i can't remember...israel something) version of 'over the rainbow' and 'wonderful world' combination? simple (with ukelele only!) and hauntingly beautiful. you may remember it if you watched the 'e.r.' episode in which dr. greene dies.

grooch, come over to the snee-side. vote for R00000000OOOOOOO0000000B!

Tabbyking

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 10:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
snee, i love iz's somewhere over the rainbow. they played it at my brother-in-law's funeral last month because it was one of his favorites. he even had the iz CD in his truck's player...my sister gave me the 'meet joe black' cd because i told her how much i loved the song and she could not find the iz cd on short notice. the somewhere over the rainbow by iz is on the 'meet joe black' soundtrack.
it is the best rendtition i have ever, ever heard. i listen to it every day....


but staying on the clay side!! lol

Seamonkey

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 10:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Kelly was on the CBS morning show and sang two songs from her album, etc. Anyway, she was asked who she thought should win and she said she's been a Ruben fan, but was impressed by Clay's handling of a last minute lyric change on Vincent and she had to be rooting for both of them.

I'll probably put in some votes and it will depend on their performances next week, but it won't be the "full court press" that I've put on for Kim the last few weeks.

Iz's version of Rainbow is my favorite contemporary version. And I think Kim's is most excellent as well.

Eva Cassidy singing Sting's Fields of Gold gets to me bigtime, especially when Michelle Kwan is skating to it..