Archive through March 26, 2003
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Archive through March 26, 2003
Crazydog | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 07:51 am     Last year I thought I recall seeing clips of the finalists practicing and that they are coached as to their song choice. Like when they did that Burt Bacharach show, didn't he pick the song for them? I think they should have done a better job of approving the songs. As far as my Joshua conspiracy theory, I do think the producers were creaming their pants that they had a singing Marine. I think it is odd that nearly every single singer in his semifinalist group 4 was horrific, while other groups had at least 4 viable finalist candidates. You can't deny that they wanted him as a finalist. Some of you said that he was in no danger of going home this week and that country would have been a boost for him later. But I think it is more beneficial to have it this week for him. I think people choose their favorites early on and stick with them all the way through. Having country this week enables him to acquire more of a fan base who will support him next week when he countrifies and butchers a disco song. I also thought it was very convenient that they chose him to lead off the country hour. Apart from that, I just don't like him. I think he's overweight for a Marine - even Simon can out-push up him, and Simon looks nothing like a Marine. I also dislike the way he does that weird thing with his lip. He always looks like he's about to have "that very special moment" when he's singing. Like he's constipated or something. It's hard to describe and I'm not really sure what exactly that means, but I don't care for it. I think Corey is going home. He may not be the worst singer, but people just don't like him. Despite the inexplicable heaps of praise on him from the judges, his consistent placement in the bottom demonstrates that he doesn't have the support. Add to this his hideous outfit choice and I think people will stick it to him this week. |
Fluff | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 07:55 am     Josh scared the crap out of me last night. He came out like a madman and I didn't know what he was going to do to the audience when trampled offstage! |
Prisonerno6 | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 07:55 am     Thanks for the details, Opie. As for not being surprised that I disagreed with what you said, Herm, don't take it personally. I certainly didn't take your disagreement with my point of view as something personal. I happen to think that if someone wants to be called an "American Idol" they have to be ready for anything that gets thrown at them. There is a lot of talent on that show, and they have to distiguish themselves somehow. *shrug* |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 07:59 am     Faith Hill and and Whitney Houston are not that dissimilar. Faith standing in for Whitney doesn't really say much for me. She is a professional with a lot more experience under her belt than these kids. No matter how talented these kids are, the are still amateurs. We need to remember that. |
Crazydog | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 08:02 am     <<I don't remember the details, but didn't this happen on some awards show last year (the Oscars?!?)? The performer of the song up for an award backed out at the very last minute, and someone had to fill in for her with almost no rehearsal time. She was praised for how good a job she did stepping into another person's song with little notice, and I'm even thinking it was someone like Faith Hill or Shania Twain (known more for country pop) doing something outside their comfort zone. I think that's a good test of talent. >> It happened twice. Once was a few years ago. Whitney was supposed to sing in the montage of Oscar winning songs, but she backed out, and Faith Hill ended up performing "Over the Rainbow" instead. Not that much of a stretch for her. The other time I remember was during the Titanic year Barbra Streisand and Bryan Adams were up for Best Song for "I Finally Found Someone". Barbra was uber-pissed that she was snubbed for Best Director for "The Mirror has Two Faces" and declared she wasn't going to attend because she "had nothing to wear". She got a lot of egg on her face because Madonna had also been snubbed for Best Actress for "Evita" yet was showing up to perform "You Must Love Me". Celine Dion sang Barbra and Bryan's song. After singing her Titanic song, she sat in front of a music stand and flipped the sheet music as she sang their duet. I remember that Billy Crystal praised Madonna for wanting to sing even though she had not been nominated in Best Actress. This was immediately followed by a camera cut to a frowning Barbra Streisand. hilarious. |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 08:02 am     I think the ones who stand out have continued to stand out. I just think that AI will be shortchanging everyone if they keep switching with little warning. I want to see some good performances. That takes some practice. Like I said, they already change genres every week and that gives us more than enough idea about adaptability and versatility. |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 08:08 am     Prisonerof6, if you keep disagreeing with me, I will have to leave in a huff and I am very close to using up my quota of huff days!! ROFLMAO!  |
Tabbyking | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 08:10 am     can't remember who i picked to go home on the media game, but i would think from the performances it should be carmen. i do listen to a lot of country because it's my 15-year-old daughter's favorite (thank heavens she doesn't love rap!) so it is always on somewhere around the car or house if caitlin is around. carmen was totally off-key for the entire song. i felt as if i were eating a lemon! i wanted to help push the notes 'higher' to get off the flat sound.... now, disco, i hate!! so i can't wait to see what they do to that. they can't butcher something i already don't care for, so it can only be an improvement! and i was in my 20's in the 80's, so you would have thought i'd like it. give me the 70's music--fleetwood mac, linda ronstadt, van morrison, garry u.s. bonds, early springsteen...ahh, there's the music!! 60's were pretty good, too....the byrds, country joe and the fish, the doors, janis joplin. gosh, where did that music go?!! i never liked the beatles since shortly after the first 'i wanna hold your hand' and some other songs. once they got to 'mean mr. mustard' and 'octopuses garden', ick. the heavier the drugs, the worse the music. |
Prisonerno6 | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 08:13 am     We'll just have to agree to disagree. I happen to think that some of the performers handled the change very well and others didn't, and I was frankly quite surprised as to who fell into which group. Clay and Trenyce, two performers who have alwayes shined in the past, just didn't seem to be as "on" last night to me. Others, like the Kims, really came through when in the past they haven't done as well as the others. That is valuable information to me in picking who I would want to win. Would I like to see this last minute change be a regular thing? No, not every week. But there are several more weeks to go, and I won't be surprised if the producers pull some other trick out of their hat so they (and we) can see who can meet the challenge and who can't. |
Prisonerno6 | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 08:14 am     Herm, here are a few extra huffs for you. :-) Huff Huff Huff Huff Huff Huff Huff Huff Huff Huff That should hold you for a couple of weeks. :-) |
Yuhuru | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 08:15 am     I've decided that no one in America knows what country rock is-not even the producers of this show. When I finally figured out it was country rock(took me a while, because I don't listen to Ryan & I was looking at Olivia NJ), I thought Garth Brooks, Shania Twain, Faith Hill... I agree with Hermi, no one will ask a Luther or Elton to change, etc. With regard to the Faith Hill Oscar thing, she was asked to step in and she chose to get some very good Oscar exposure, and let's be honest Whitney and Faith's styles aren't that far apart. It's not like they asked Kid Rock to stand in for Harry Conick Jr. But anyways, these kids need to be ready for anything. However, as a viewer I want them to be as prepared as they can be so that I will enjoy the show because it's all about me |
Brenda1966 | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 08:16 am     LOL Crazydog about your description of Josh. I wasn't impressed with him last night and I'm a big Garth Brooks fan. I didn't like him running all over and I don't think that song was a good choice. I remember last year wanting them to do a "country" week and we never got one. I was suprised to see it knowing how Simon feels about Country. I like country but last night was not good. Clay was cheated by only having Simon comment, negatively, on his singing. If he's eliminated I swear I'll start a riot. I don't like Corey but I enjoyed his singing last night. When he's "on" for me he reminds me of Steve Perry's voice -- and that's a good thing. Rickie -- didn't like the song Kim L - loved the song but still don't like her attitude Kim C - good performance but I just don't like her voice Julia - love her voice but she still looks so uncomfortable up there Terence - didn't shine Guessing the bottom 3 is really tough this week. |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 08:22 am     Thanks for the extra huffs. I'm good now. I think there may have been an element of luck in who handled it and who didn't depending on what songs were available that fit them. We have little information as to when and why this happened and what they could choose from. That's why I didn't feel last night's show really proved anything to me. If they do it again and the same performers shine and the same "fail," I would agree 100% that it gives us a better idea of who has more talent, but I didn't get the feeling this time that it was a good yardstick. For example, Kimberly Caldwell... last night was her best performance according to the judges. She has had so many opportunities to wow us, with plenty of notice and practice, and has been a letdown to many of us. I don't think the fact the she shined last night necessarily means she has more talent than Trenyce who didn't. |
Curtisahahahaha | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 08:30 am     Yikes! If that was Julia's best performance yet... she's ready to go home. I thought they all sucked last night. Best was Carmen. And ... don't we need that marine in Iraq right about now? |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 08:35 am     It really wasn't the best show, was it? |
Yuhuru | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 08:36 am     No ma'am, it wasn't. By the way, how are ya doing? |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 08:41 am     I'm doing good! Every time I see you, I think about your new baby! How's it going? I hope next week is better. I really wished I had just gone to see Lord of the Rings again in open caption. It was my last chance and I missed it for this! BUMMER! |
Hummingbird | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 08:42 am     Seems like I remember Natalie Cole backing out of an oscar performance at the last minute and someone going to bat in her place. Can't remember the details, though. |
Yuhuru | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 08:56 am     All is well with the baby. When I'm on the boards she's usually in my lap |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 09:23 am     What a cute mental image! That put a smile on my face! Thank you! |
Beachcomber88 | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 09:33 am     I am in total agreement with Crazydog about there being a conspiracy. Stcmom, thanks for the scoop about last minute change in format. Who was supposed to be the disco judge anyway? I thought ONJ was afraid to say anything critical - basically praised everybody with short five word sentences. As someone else mentioned, Randy and Paula's comments and their standing O's for everyone are getting a bit tiring. They're not ALL that good. Simon was the only one that said anything useful. BTW, has anyone else noticed how he's always halfway turned around in his seat looking at the audience? The other judges don't ever do that. I thought Clay was good, but he did look tired. He had that I'm-half-asleep-my-left-eye-is-closed look. Maybe he was trying to be artistic. I think the only reason why Simon was the only one to judge was because they were running out of time for the show. Corey looked like he was dressed for the disco show. That hideous hair, the headband, the see through muscle shirt - it looked like he was going out for some YMCA at the rollerrink. I hope he goes. Actually, I hope the Marine goes. |
Prisonerno6 | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 09:50 am     I don't think Simon is looking at the audience (at least I don't recall ever seeing him do that). I do see him turned to look at the performance in the monitor in front of the judges, not the performer. I mentioned this pefore -- based on the comments he's made about watching the tapes of the performances after the show, I think he's really interested in how the performance comes across on camera, not live. I do agree that the only reason we didn't hear any other comment for Clay was time, but I didn't read Simon's comment as all that negative. He said it was the same as last week, but last week he said Clay was the one to beat. |
Frogichik | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 10:13 am     Did anyone notice Finola Hughes (All My Children and General Hospital) sitting behind Simon? Has anyone seen other celebrites in the audience? |
Kellsma | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 10:22 am     Yes, I saw Finola Hughes. They talked about it this morning on Good Day LA. They also said the Josh is now on 24 hr notice and could be shipped out any day so he may be gone soon from this season and then will get to be in the final 10 next season. Don't know when he got the order but it is likely he may not be there next week. This was reported in the LA Times today. The only two people that I had a hard time voting for last night were Clay and Ruben so I don't think we have to worry about Clay. He has a huge following. Everyone else was no problem, even Josh. I agree, it was about 45 minutes before it was a little easier to vote for Clay but then busy again. That is good news. |
Conejo | Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 10:26 am     BeachC, I agree, I don't think there should have been any standing O's last night. I also noticed that Simon keeps 'half' turning around to the audience - maybe he's trying to get their approval? Also agree that Simon was the only one to that said anything useful. Oliva NJ was completely worthless. IMO As I commented earlier, what is up with Corey's hair-do??? Frogi, I didn't notice Finola in the audience or any other 'stars' last night. (I thought for sure Joe Millionaire would've been there LOL) |
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