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Archive through January 02, 2003
Hermione69 | Tuesday, December 10, 2002 - 12:09 pm     Fruitbat, even in here you are going on about that darn pole, LOL! |
Wilsonatmd | Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 10:45 am     for the ladies in the crowd, here's the skinny on the guy.... http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/ent_radio/story/42641p-40213c.html This dating show has quite a catch 'Joe Millionaire' isn't rich at all By EARL SWIFT Merely a thousandaire The latest of television's "reality" shows has 20 comely young women competing for the attention of an obscenely rich bachelor. Or so they think. In fact, the title character in "Joe Millionaire," which airs on Fox starting Jan. 6, is a heavy-equipment operator, sometime model and former military school cadet from Virginia Beach, Va. - and, alas, merely a thousandaire. Evan Marriott, 28, will pull a bait-and-switch on a grand scale, wooing the bachelorettes on romantic dates in the French countryside, whittling the field to a sole "winner," then — in the climactic seventh episode — revealing the truth about his humble finances. The network figures the show's audience will learn something of value in whether the final contestant ditches Marriott or is commanded by true love. That audience will be in on the scam throughout, as Marriott — who Fox describes as "raised in humble surroundings with only limited financial security" — morphs from rough-and-tumble construction worker to suave boulevardier before setting out to break 19 hearts. But the Internet is already busy with folks who detect a rat, along with desperation, in the show's premise. Postings on several Web sites speculate that the trick on the women is wrapped in another, bigger hoax, this one on the show's viewers. Marriott isn't talking. "He's under a very heavy blanket," said his father, Robert H. (Hank) Marriott III. "I don't think I'd call it 'hiding,' exactly, but they want to move him to a gated community, and maybe they already have." "I really don't know how to reach him," said his mother, Charlotte Marriott, "because he's in and out and in between places." Marriott was brought up in a comfortable neighborhood in Virginia Beach. In the seventh grade, he was enrolled in the Hargrave Military Academy in Chatham, Va. He graduated in 1992. Over the next seven years, Marriott split his time between construction jobs in Virginia Beach and modeling gigs in Paris, where he spent several months, and New York, where he worked with famed fashion photographer Bruce Weber. "I rarely touch star power in this area, but he's got it," said Kim Wadsworth, a Virginia fashion consultant and writer who put together several photo spreads in which Marriott figured prominently. Invited by New York contacts to pursue modeling in California, Marriott moved to the Los Angeles area in January 1999. He's worked mostly in construction since, his father said. While his upbringing wasn't quite the log-cabin story Fox would have its viewers believe, it wasn't wealthy, either: The Marriotts live in a house that's modest by the standards of its neighborhood. His father is vice president of Norfolk's Old Dominion Trust Co. His mother manages a linens boutique. Hank Marriott said they're a long way from millionaires, and as far as he knows, Evan's not one, either. "There's nothing fancy about us," he said. Whatever happens on the show, one of Marriott's military-academy classmates figures he'll be up for it. "The role he'll be playing on the show fits his personality perfectly," said Kevin McKeon of Houston. "Evan was a big cutup. He was always a practical joker." Knight Ridder |
Curlyq | Friday, December 13, 2002 - 10:06 pm     I've always found the premise of The Bachelor degrading, sleazy, and just plain gross. I was astounded that so many women tuned in. That being said, I will definitely be watching Joe Millionaire. It's refreshing to see one of these shows presented as tongue-in-cheek (as it should be) rather than as some kind of real love story. To me, all the commercials presenting The Bachelor as a fairy tale come true were appalling. I must've missed the part where the prince tried his tongue in the mouths of every girl at the ball before choosing Cinderella as the perfect fit. I can’t imagine any woman going postal just because the guy she won in a contest isn’t a millionaire. I highly doubt anyone's heart will be broken by this ruse, because I just don’t believe any of these women have ever given their hearts away in one of these games. It's all just Hollywood hype. It's not even about the guy. It's about beating the other women and getting your face on TV. That’s why even when they land real millionaires they don't really marry them, or as in Darva Conger’s case they don’t stay married to them. Maybe Joe Millionaire will make people think twice before going on these shows and presenting themselves to the nation as gold-diggers. As for the dishonesty and trust factor, acting like you're just looking for true love when you’re really after fame and fortune is at least as dishonest as pretending to be a millionaire. Still, in the end you just know whoever wins will use "I'm not dumping you because you're not rich, but because you lied about it" as her excuse. |
Webkitty | Sunday, December 15, 2002 - 09:23 am     I keep seeing commercials for this. The guy's hair is already bothering me. It looks greasy and messy, he can't afford a good haircut? The bachelor never interested me and this doesn't either but I'll watch until something better comes on, Monday is a slow night for tv. I'm not that crazy about Alex either <ducks at the many Alex fans> |
Realfan | Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 12:58 pm     I can't help but watch this train wreck. I think it will be entertaining, for sure. I can't imagine a real relationship coming from this, however. Even if the guy "only" lies about the millions, he's still lying. And they'll be surrounded by evidence of the things he supposedly "owns" and he'll be giving gifts he supposedly "bought." What woman would trust a man after that kind of deception? But ITA women entering into something like this may really show their greedy sides. I can see that, for sure. Sad, but true. Yet, ITA, in real life, where a person comes from and their financial stability DOES play a part in building a relationship. Relationships can't be divorced from the day-to-day reality of living. Also, if he just inherited the cash (supposedly), why the effort to turn him into a "millionaire" type guy before the show airs? That's why it's called nouveau riche instead of old money--people don't change overnight. He wouldn't have to be "transformed" into a man with rich tastes. I'm not understanding that part. If the women hear his last name, they're going to think he's related to the Marriott hotel chain owners! LOL! |
Fluff | Friday, December 20, 2002 - 07:35 am     OOOOHHH! I can't wait til this show come on!!!!!! Whoever thought of this is a genius! HAHAHAHHAHAAAAHAHAHAA! |
Rissa | Monday, December 23, 2002 - 08:20 am     I finally saw an ad for this show a few days ago.... like the proverbial car-wreck, I will be watching too {sigh}. LOL I am missing something though, I have much the same questions as Realfan. I know we will see the treasure-hunters coming out to play, but on the other hand..... I don't see anything wrong with a woman (or a man) looking for financial stability in a potential mate. 50 mill is a lot more than financial stable but then 19 thous is a lot less too. Is the point just to humiliate the women? What the heck does a millionaire act like? I need to know this so I can inform the ones I know who dress and act like your average family. I am being serious here.. maybe the difference is that the money was earned, not inherited but I don't know anyone who 'struts' their wealth. This guy is a carpenter? Well, as long as he can carry on a half-way intelligent conversation and doesn't pick his nose... why wouldn't anyone believe he was rich? |
Hermione69 | Monday, December 23, 2002 - 01:22 pm     I am a little uncomfortable with the premise. It is extremely deceptive. Do the girls know there is a secret, at least? I would rather them at least tell the girls there is a secret. I see both sides of the arguments that people have presented. On the one hand, if these women are just gold diggers, well, maybe it serves them right. On the other hand, it is a very poor basis for a lasting relationship for it to begin with a deception of this magnitude. Of course, none of us would really expect it to last anyway, right? I kind of feel that anyone who enters this, after being exposed to the Reality TV genre for over two years and seeing such shows as "The Bachelor" and "Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire?" and "Who Wants to Be a Princess?", should enter into it with a healthy degree of skepticism and if they don't it's kind of "shame on them." Probably will not go out of my way to watch it, but if I'm home and it's on, may tune in. |
Grooch | Friday, December 27, 2002 - 06:18 am     Here's a link to the girls on the show. link |
Grooch | Friday, December 27, 2002 - 06:20 am     Joe Millionaire' star is a fake — or is he? Published on 12/13/2002 28-year-old Evan Marriott stars as “Joe Millionaire” from the Fox reality series of the same name. By Earl Swift The latest of television's “reality” shows has 20 comely young women competing for the attention of an obscenely rich bachelor. Or so they think. In fact, the title character in “Joe Millionaire,” which airs on Fox beginning Jan.6, is a heavy-equipment operator, sometime male model and former military school cadet from Virginia Beach — and, alas, merely a thousandaire. Cementing the region's role as a breeding ground for players in such contest-dramas, 28-year-old Evan Marriott will pull a grand-scale bait-and-switch, wooing the bachelorettes on romantic dates in the French countryside, whittling the field to a sole “winner,” then — in the climactic seventh episode — revealing the truth about his humble finances. The network figures the show's audience will learn something of value in whether the final contestant ditches Marriott, or is commanded by true love. That audience will be in on the scam throughout, and watch as Marriott — whom Fox describes as “raised in humble surroundings with only limited financial security” — morphs, a la Eliza Doolittle, from rough-and-tumble construction worker to suave boulevardier before setting out to break 19 hearts. But the Internet is already busy with folks who detect a rat, along with desperation, in the show's premise: Postings on several Web sites speculate that the trick on the women is wrapped in another, bigger hoax, this one on the show's viewers. Marriott isn't talking. “He's under a very heavy blanket,” said his father, Robert H. “Hank” Marriott III. “I don't think I'd call it ‘hiding,' exactly, but they want to move him to a gated community, and maybe they already have.” “I really don't know how to reach him,” said his mother, Charlotte Marriott, “because he's in and out and in between places.” Born at Virginia Beach General Hospital, Marriott was raised in the city's comfortable Chelsea neighborhood and attended John B. Dey Elementary and Great Neck Middle schools. In the seventh grade he was enrolled in the Hargrave Military Academy in Chatham, Va., near Danville. He graduated in 1992. Over the next seven years, Marriott split his time between construction jobs in Virginia Beach and modeling gigs in Paris, where he spent several months, and New York, where he worked with famed fashion photographer Bruce Weber. He also modeled for Port Folio Weekly in Hampton Roads, Va. “I rarely touch star power in this area,” said local fashion consultant and writer Kim Wadsworth, who put together several photo spreads in which Marriott figured prominently, “but he's got it.” Invited by New York contacts to pursue modeling in California, Marriott moved to the Los Angeles area in January 1999. He's worked mostly in construction since, his father said. If the show is, in fact, saving a surprise for its viewers, it doesn't appear to be that predicted in a slew of Web postings: that Marriott really is a millionaire, which the show will reveal only after he announces that he's broke, and his prospective mate has had an opportunity to respond. While his upbringing wasn't quite the log-cabin story Fox would have its viewers believe, it wasn't that of a rich kid, either: The Marriotts live in a house that's modest by the standards of its neighborhood. His father is vice president of Norfolk's Old Dominion Trust Co. His mother manages a linens boutique. Hank Marriott said they're a long way from millionaires, and as far as he knows, Evan's not one, either. “There's nothing fancy about us,” he said. Whatever happens on the show, one of Marriott's military academy classmates figures he'll be up for it. “The role he'll be playing on the show fits his personality perfectly,” said Kevin McKeon of Houston. “Evan was a big cut-up. He was always a practical joker.” |
Ladytex | Friday, December 27, 2002 - 03:21 pm     That was scary. Many of those females are actually intelligent, career women! Why, oh why, would they degrade themselves by going on a show like this??? |
Pamy | Friday, December 27, 2002 - 04:07 pm     Same reason they go on The bachelor! |
Ladytex | Saturday, December 28, 2002 - 12:21 pm     That's the question, why would any reasonably attractive, intelligent female want to degrade herself by going on a show like this (which includes bachelor, since they obviously thought this was going to be like that)? |
Pamy | Saturday, December 28, 2002 - 04:43 pm     I think for the limelight, 20 min of fame thing, I honestly can't believe they think they will be married happily ever after. I think the last 2 Bachelor shows prove it since I belive both couples are still not married. |
Seamonkey | Saturday, December 28, 2002 - 04:52 pm     To be seen.. and didn't one of the Bachelor rejects get her own show this year? As Surviiival site would say.. Media Wh*res.. And they it seems that at least some of them get to be wined and dined in Europe. |
Pamy | Saturday, December 28, 2002 - 05:22 pm     I agree Sea, and yes that reject is "The Bachelorette"!! |
Muse | Wednesday, January 01, 2003 - 10:47 pm     I agree that many of these women go on these shows just for the media exposure. A lot of them probably want to be in showbiz in some form or another. "Joe" himself is the same way, what with being a model and wannabe actor. I sort of have mixed feelings about the women. On one hand, they chose to be on the show. And if they're foolish enough to choose to do that, they should be willing to put up with some criticism, both from the media and the public. On the other hand, I do feel a teeny bit sorry for them for being so duped. They don't know they signed up for *that*. And the way the previews suggest that they should be okay with the guy making 19K a year? Lame. Money isn't everything, but that's not all that much (of course, I don't think that's his true income...not with his various side jobs). I don't think it's wrong for women to want to find a future spouse who can help contribute financially to the marriage, as long as that's not one of the main thing they look for in a mate. Joe shouldn't be Prince Charming just because they think he's rich, obviously, but 19K means keeping a tight budget and sacrificing some luxuries. More importantly, I'd imagine it'd be a big turn-off for most women to hear that the man they were interested in isn't who they thought he was. Lying (or misleading someone, at least) isn't really that attractive. But the media will probably suggest that there's something wrong with *her* for rejecting him, assuming that's what happens... As for the guy - too greasy. And a total media wh*re. Blech. The show itself might be entertaining though, regardless of some minor issues with it. |
Fluff | Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 05:17 am     Can't wait, can't wait, can't wait! |
Fruitbat | Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 06:21 am     I am with you there, Fluff! |
Pamy | Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 07:53 am     Even my DH, who HATES all my reality shows, is thinking of watching this one! |
Fruitbat | Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 08:00 am     My husband watched both Bachelors with me. I think the pretty women add that je ne sais quois. (sp?) |
Realfan | Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 09:18 am     I don't know, Ladytex. It looks to me like most of the women are either secretaries, flight attendants, or in sales. Not high-level professional women (except for the doctor). One's even already a "spokesmodel," so you know her motivation for going on the show. One thing--the blurb at the top of the page asks who is in it for money, and who for love. Before we, as the audience, can figure that out, we need to know what these women have been told. How were they recruited? What do they know of the man's intentions? That sort of thing. |
Fruitbat | Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 09:54 am     They have been told this man has 50 million dollars. I think it will be impossible to tell what any of them were after, other than the winner. Some may be bold and speak out others may claim it was for love to save face. |
Wilsonatmd | Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 04:43 pm     Well here's proof the guy really is broke.....he got busted for not paying a toll..... http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/ewmarriott1.html |
Pamy | Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 05:45 pm     Hahaa...don't ya just love the smoking gun?! |
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