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Lizadee

Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 08:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Tina you mean I don't wanna be your "Trophy Tina"
Pleeze she just ruined it for me there
I can't believe these women fall so hard like this
in such a short amount of time
the only reason why I watch this show is for the cat fights and the humor thsi is more of a comedy show then reality show

Happymom

Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 08:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Curious ... I saw that date and Jen's but missed the tina and christina dates! I really wanted to see this whole show, but, oh well. Maybe some kind soul could post what happened on those 2 dates.

Andrew and Kirsten met at the beach and joined her friend. A asked the friend about K's old boyfriend, brought up that there was talk amongst the other bachelorettes about the ex. K interrupted A and was talking to the friend. (imo this just really showed that K wanted the friend to answer in a way that would benefit K, which may not be the whole truth. A didn't pick up on that though.) Then K asks A to leave so she can talk to her friend alone. K and her friend talk about the ex and K says she realizes that it is over between her and the ex even if things don't work out with A. The friend says "so if he asks I should tell him to move on?" and K says yes.

imo, this really shows that things may not be over between K and her ex, especially in the mind of the ex.

Then K and A go to meet her parents and brother. It wasn't a very memborable or remarkable visit. They got along ok. Nothing seemed awkward. I can't remember many specifics in their conversation. One of the parents (I think) asked about the other 3 girls and their qualities. (Qualities that they may have that K doesn't have, I think is how it was worded...I'm not positive, though.) A asked if they wanted a list. So he actually did list them. Christina is a little older and he is attracted by her career drive (? something like that!)

Go to MLT's post of last night. There is a good desccription of what A said.

After this, Kirsten says something to the camera without A around, she addresses the way he described Tina. imo, this worried K.

Then they were shown kissing in the limo.

That's all I can remember about that date.

Happymom

Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 09:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Just saw Christina on GMA. She seems fine. Not much to report. She said she was somewhat broken up when she didn't get the rose because at that time she wanted to spend more time with Andrew.

Charlie described the parents' reaction to Andrew as lukewarm. She didn't seem to agree or disagree. She said they were wary and want her to be happy.

She said she had a great time at the house in Malibu and the girls were great. She has no regrets. There was no talk about what she is doing with her life now or whether she has a boyfriend now.

She did say the editing was not fair (not sure she used the word "fair"). She feels America only got to see what the show felt America would want to see.

One funny thing...gma puts a rejected stamp on the screen and takes it away. They replace it with "better off without the bachelor"!

Fabnsab

Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 10:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for the recap MLT...

I noticed the look Kirsten gave Tina when she walked into the rose ceremony. She is finally feeling some competition.

Fabnsab

Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 10:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
“That’s what my wedding cake will look like BECAUSE YOU’RE MY PRINCE” in a guy’s ear is tantamount to using “My herpes is in remission!” as a pick-up line.


This is a line in an article from Entertainment Weekly online. I thought it was too funny not to share.


(edited to add the whole article because it is all pretty damn funny and dead on)
RUBEN? BOTTOM TWO? WHAT THE...? Oops, sorry, got off track there. Luckily “The Bachelor” showed us that the whole world hasn’t gone completely nuts as Andrew stopped using his zipper monkey for a brain just long enough to give Cristina Whatever the boot. This doesn’t make me feel any better about Josh stinking up “American Idol” next Tuesday, but I’ll take small mercies where I can get them.

I can’t decide whether to feel sorry for Cristina’s willful ignorance of Andy’s steadily mounting fear of her, or impressed by her gutsy decision to win him over by brute force. I’m wondering if ABC might cut together a clip reel of Cristina’s many missteps for a PSA. Young women everywhere need to be educated to the dangers of trying to snare a husband with soggy codfish pastry and creepy marital innuendo. Seriously, whispering “That’s what my wedding cake will look like BECAUSE YOU’RE MY PRINCE” in a guy’s ear is tantamount to using “My herpes is in remission!” as a pick-up line.

It was almost a disappointment to discover Cristina’s family in New Jersey were pleasant suburban folk instead of the leather-skinned, screaming, sex-crazed circus freaks I was expecting. You’d think Miss Whatever would have a dad who’d grab Andy in a headlock and squeeze him until his pink little ears popped to force a shotgun wedding, but apparently the aggro gene skips a generation. We can only hope the bad cooking gene does too, because I swear I saw Andy spitting a mouthful of dinner into his napkin using the fake face-wipe move we’ve all resorted to for sneaking our lima beans to the dog.

Still, seeing all four women with their apparently normal families was quite a revelation, especially when we know Andy was checking out the moms to see what he could be sharing a bed with 30 years from now. Though Tina Fab’s tendency towards helmet head at each rose ceremony is making her look more and more like a stuffed toy lion, it was remarkable to see the girl thaw out like a warm cherry Popsicle on her home turf. Sure, she gave Andy a pinched-lip can’t-get-cooties kiss (of course, if a guy drove me around in circles on an ATV until I suffered irreversible brain damage, I’d forgo tongue action, too), but it was clearly enough to keep him coming back for more. We can only hope he’ll one day be able to do something about the poor girl’s taste in art, which tunnels right past primitivism to the stuff your emotionally disturbed kindergarten classmate painted while simultaneously clawing at his face with safety scissors. That he was able to accept the thing and not run screaming from it was a testament to his good rearing or dangerous nearsightedness.

As for Kirsten’s Tampa beach party (as a Floridian, I can tell you her decision to don a bikini in the dead of winter proved she’s either really serious about our Andy or she’s made of Teflon), it’s becoming clear that she’s the smokin’ chick Andy always wanted to date when he was a high school goober but never found the nerve to talk to, kind of like Ben Affleck and J. Lo. Whenever Kirsten starts talking to him, he gapes at her like an anaesthetized gorilla, clearly not hearing anything but the sound of his hormones chanting “hot hot hot hot hot.” And honestly, Andy’s hormones might be more interesting. The fact that Andy still calls the poor thing Kristen half the time suggests that he’s more fixated on exploring her tonsils with his tongue than making her his inflatable tire goddess.

That job may very well go to Jen, but only if she can wipe that forlorn look off her mug. At the rose ceremony she looked like one of the kids at the orphanage in “Oliver,” only with limp hair and worse posture. If Kirsten is the ungettable hottie, then Jen (who bears a startling resemblance to Marcia Brady) is the wholesome girl-next-door, someone who won’t leave the kids locked in a hot car while she gets it on with her tennis coach but is still fetching enough to take your breath away in a long, white gown with flowers in her hair. While I adore Tina Fab’s limitless spunk, my gut says that if Andy is the straight-up guy he claims to be (and the jury’s still out on that one), Jen’s the one who’ll get the final rose.

Who do you think deserves to become Mrs. Firestone?



Ginger1218

Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 10:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That line is too funny LOL

Meli456

Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 11:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Too funny!!

Realmom

Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 01:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thought I'd comment over here to get my "need to comment" fix. Over at AI, I couldn't have said anything different from what everyone else was saying, so I didn't. I haven't voted for a couple of weeks--you bet I will next Tuesday.

I like Andrew the best of all the bachelors. My 15 yo daughter watched it for the first time last night and said, "I like him! He's boyish and not all suave like the other two were." I think he has more personality--he talks, he jokes, he reacts, etc.

I was oh so happy to see Christina go. She was plain old scary. What makes a woman think that a guy wants to be seduced in such a manner? So needy...

I have felt from the beginning that it has all been about Kirsten for Andrew. I still think he is quite twitterpated with her and probably finds her the most physically attractive. I think she will start to annoy him after awhile. He seems the most comfortable with Jen. They just look genuinely happy with each other. It's a body language thing. Something is wrong with Tina--she almost seems frigid. Andrew likes the challenge, but I think he will get tired of it.

My guess is that the last two will be Kirsten and Jen, with Jen getting the ring.

Urgrace

Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 03:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wouldn't surprise me if Kirsten has been getting a rose every week for the show's drama (like showing Andrew picking up her picture and ogling it just before the rose ceremony). Also, seems the editing is being done to make it look and sound like Andrew is choosing her instead of the girl he really likes, Jen.

Mlt

Friday, May 02, 2003 - 08:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Happymom, if you want to get a rundown on the dates you missed, go to this website:

http://www.mediafiends.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1950&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

It's sort of biased, but it seems to give a fairly accurate rundown about what happened during the four hometown dates.

Happymom

Friday, May 02, 2003 - 08:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
thanks MLT! Kinda reminds me of bunny tales (only bunny tales are more cleverly written)!

Realfan

Friday, May 02, 2003 - 05:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I like Jen, even if she had reservations about the dog. I didn't have a dog for the first 40 years of my life, and I wouldn't have wanted to scoop poop either.

I agree about the body language--Andrew seems to lean toward Jen, touch her leg, give her hotter kisses than he does for the other girls. I hope he doesn't pick problem-girl Kirsten, whose name he doesn't even get yet and who looked daggers at Tina during the rose ceremony and who was annoyed he found something positive in the other girls, like Tina's personality. But if he does, he deserves her.

Mlt

Friday, May 02, 2003 - 06:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, hey. I was just rewatching the last episode. And I noticed something that I just had to share. It seemed as if Tina was still wearing Andrew's watch at this past rose ceremony. I wonder if that was why Kirsten was staring at Tina (just a thought).

Fabnsab

Friday, May 02, 2003 - 08:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Great catch, MLT!!

I missed last weeks episode(when Liz got booted).It sounded like a fireworks show though. Our cruise ship didn't get ABC- and trust me, I looked! My husband and I were at a dinner table with 8 other women, no men, and we were all talking about missing the Bachelor. It was a hoot to see so many different women from different places meet on a ship and talk like high schoolers about a show. My poor husband- not only did we subject him to girl talk all week but I actually had the nerve to book our trip on the weekend of the NFL draft. He said if that didn't prove his love, nothing would!

Cecjoc

Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 11:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Check out this site for interesting analysis of the characters.

http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/bachelor/

The analysis of the final episode of the bachelorette is also interesting, and in my opinion-dead on.

Guminherhair

Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for the great link Cec! It was a very interesting read. I think Jen is the best pick too, but I worry that Andrew is too PW (Pretty Whipped) on Kirsten to see the better picture.

Cecjoc

Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 03:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You're welcome!

Fascinating stuff. I think he is a little sexist, in that he is accepting of Andrew's shallow requirements, but not of Trista's. But otherwise--an interesting read.