Archive through February 26, 2003
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Archive through February 26, 2003
Essence | Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 08:07 am     Rissa, I saw the Nakesha thing the same way as you. That's why she was upset. |
Hereiam | Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 08:09 am     Is it just me who thinks the marine, Joshua, might be better suited for county music? I think he sings well and is a good performer, I just don't see him as a "pop" star. But, out of last nights group he was the best. |
Crazydog | Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 08:10 am     I don't like Corey Clark. Didn't like him at his initial "Michael Jackson" audition. Didn't like him when he partied. Didn't like him last night. I just don't understand the appeal of the high-pitched male voice. He sings OK, but the whole package is unappealing. Same thing with Kimberly Caldwell and America rejected her. Unfortunately, this group was pretty poor all around. I voted for Ashley. |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 08:26 am     Rissa I did see that. I also heard him tell her that they expected her to be the best of the lot after hearing her audition the first time. I may be mistaken. He was telling her she was capable of better because the performance last night was not as good as they had expected. I like Corey's look, a lot. He will be in the top 5, I bet. His voice must be better than many of us heard, Paula and Randy gave him a standing ovation and Simon praised him, as well. |
Opie | Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 08:26 am     I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't get what the big deal with Corey was. Maybe he sounds better in person. I liked Chip better. I haven't kept up with Joshua. What are the odds that he can finish the competition? Is his unit one that would stay in the US (homeland security, maybe)? That shouldn't keep him from going on, he was great, but I would think it's pretty likely he'll have to drop out. And Juanita. Yuck. The whole thing was horrible. I was glad to finally see Randy ask "Do you know who I am?" So many of these kids have told them that they don't know what they're talking about. I've been waiting for someone to finally clue them in that at least Randy and Simon's track records show they know exactly what they are talking about. Not that I always agree with the style comments (from Simon, especially), but they are usually right on the money with the singing criticism. When will they announce the wild card lineup? |
Rissa | Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 08:36 am     I thought Corey had a nice voice but not one that I would be particularly interested in hearing over and over. I agree with the "Michael Jackson" type comment. I did think it was a HOOT that his parents seemed to have put their thumbs down on his nights out. You can look at their faces and pretty much KNOW what they said to him when they found out. LOL The judges were pretty angry at those antics so they must have since been convinced of his sincerity to give him the standing O {IMO} That's right fruitbat... didn't they make a similiar comment about Patrick too? He sounded better on his own then with the piano to accompany? I agree with his comment that rock needs the drums and guitar but then isn't that like his admitting that his singing isn't strong enough on it's own? He seemed to be saying that Rock needs the loud, aggressive beat to carry it which was sorta insulting himself and the genre if he would think about it. LOL |
Wargod | Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 08:44 am     Rissa, I have to agree with you about these kids learning from what the judges tell them. It's got to be dificult to hear someone tell you you're not as good as you think you are, but they do have some insight into the music industry and are offering advice that could help them in the future. Joshua and Corey were the only ones who didn't have me cringing. I liked Patrick, but he'd do better with rock and not pop. I loved Ashley...not her singing, but the way she took what they told her afterwards. She was disappointed, but didn't react horribly...she took it with grace and listened to what they said. |
Tabbyking | Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 08:45 am     my kids quit watching when it got down to the 'selected' singers. however, they taped keith ("i'm unique, snooorrrrrt"), singing madonna's 'like a virgin', and edgar, the guy who didn't make the cut but got himself out to hollywood and just showed up. most mornings, i hear my son laughing in the kitchen and he has put on the tape he made of that 2-hour american idol 'didn't make-its' and has it fast forwarded to one of the two guys. for myself, i swear that last week simon said this week would be much better and with more talent, blah, blah, blah. i must have missed most of the 'much better'! i think the marine was very good, but watch him get called to war...i'll bet when he comes back, they will give him a contract because they love his style and patriotism and his 'rightness'. i see joshua in the loop, even if he has to leave and cannot make it any farther in the competition. i wish him luck, whatever comes for him. i agree with whoever posted above that ashley sang her song an octave too high. she was probably trying to show her range, but would have done much better if it hadn't been sung 'soprano'. beautiful girl and classy under fire. |
Not1worry | Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 08:59 am     AOL's poll, which admittedly has not been accurate, has Ashley in the lead over Joshua 29% to 25%. I think she's going to get a lot of votes simply because of her poise. Don't some of these (Juanita and Sylvia!) contestants know that they are choosing to come on this show, they are asking to be evaluated by 3 judges who have been picked for a reason, and that just because they make it to the finals does not ensure they will be superstars! I need something to throw at the t.v. when they start mouthing off. Never mind the fact they they are the contestants and the judges are leading members of their industry, it's just RUDE. |
Essence | Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 09:09 am     I'd rather see Chip get a spot over Ashley. He handled his criticism well also, and IMO he has more talent than Ashley. I didn't think she sang well at all. I don't think we have to worry about Sylvia or Juanita getting Americas votes or a wild card spot. |
Grooch | Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 09:11 am     I liked Chip! I think he is one who will get better and better as the show goes on. He had bad nerves last night. I hope he makes it and then Joshua. I did not like Corey's singing at all and I honestly don't understand why he got a standing ovation. |
Pamy | Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 09:12 am     I hate the backtalking! Don't these kids remember the one time that Justin got smart with Simon he was in the bottom 3 the next nite?? I think Ashley will make the top 3 because the others were soo nasty. That Juanita had nerve! She sucked! |
Wink | Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 09:15 am     Ashley sounds like she has a trained voice that is best suited to high school musical productions, not pop singing. She's definitely a very lovely young woman with a lot of poise. Grooch I agree with you about Chip and the nerves and if he doesn't make it I hope he's considered for the wild card. Well Corey can certainly carry a tune but he was flat in many places, particularly near the end and I am mystified by the standing O as well. |
Prisonerno6 | Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 09:18 am     Just a note on the backtalking... On the Today show Monday, Simon said the kids are told by the producers to give as good as they get. I think the producers may see the conflict as "good televsion." I do think Juanita took it to far with her "who do you think you are comments" but after having heard Simon explanation, I understand where it's may be coming from. On a totally unrelated note, when the blonde (Ashley?) started singing, my cat actually woke up and started meowing. It think the high notes hurt her ears. I know they did mine... |
Conejo | Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 09:24 am     If the producers tell these kids to backtalk I wish they would stop it. I personally donn't enjoy it whether they are told to do it or not - to me it takes away the 'reality' of the contest if they are told to backtalk. JMHO |
Grooch | Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 09:38 am     Kimberly and Vanessa can backtalk. They have the talent to back them up. The rest should shut their mouths. |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 09:41 am     Simon has been heard in interviews saying he respects someone that can stand up to him but I don't think he meant that he was dazzled with being rude and cocky. There is a way to stand your ground respectfully with a well placed articulate comment or two or humor. The cocky ones are hurting themselves because most viewers like Simon and see the points he is making for the most part. |
Grooch | Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 10:14 am     American Idol contestant quick to return judges' fire By Tom Walter walter@gomemphis.com February 26, 2003 It got personal on American Idol Tuesday night, as Memphian Juanita Barber angrily challenged the judges' opinions of the song she sang and the way she sang it. She sang What About the Children and the judges for the TV show were unimpressed - even Paula Abdul, who normally goes out of her way to find something nice to say to contestants. "I see a lot of oversinging," Abdul said. "Once again, subtlety is the key." "That was not good, Juanita," said Simon Cowell, the most acerbic judge. "Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, you really chose the wrong song." "I think America chose the wrong judge," Barber shot back. Cowell responded by putting his fingers in his ears, what he said he wanted to do during her performance. "I think you're doing that because you don't know singing," she told him. When Cowell told her the song didn't sound very good, Barber challenged him on that, also. "How didn't it sound good?" she asked. Judge Randy Jackson then poured oil on the fire. "Juanita, dude, you don't know what you're talking about, either," he told her. "I'm Juanita. I can sing," she said before walking off the stage. Barber, 22, was the fourth Memphian to sing in the American Idol semifinals. None of the previous three made it further, though a second chance for any one of them could come in next week's wild card competition.. |
Prisonerno6 | Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 10:15 am     I think it's the difference between having enough confidence yourself to accept criticism (what Simon may be looking for) and being overconfident to the point of dismissing anyone who disagrees with your impression of yourself (what we are too often seeing). |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 10:25 am     What we saw was just plain tacky with several of them. The articulate and bright make it far, talent is only part of the package. |
Hereiam | Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 10:36 am     Ok,I scanned through the show again this morning to see if it was really as bad as I thought last night (I was not paying full attention last night). And it was as bad if not worse. The back talking is terrible and especially coming from these individuals. If they had the talent to back it up and disagreed in a witty or clever way it would be one thing. But, they don't. I really, REALLY miss Clay and think he got a bad roll of the dice being put in the group he was in. I will vote constantly for him to get a wild card spot! He had the talent and appeared to be a nice, humble guy - unlike the majority of the crew from last night. I am just sad that some of these people made it through to compete... there has to be better talent out there somewhere. |
Car54 | Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 11:07 am     I didn't watch this show before except for the finals and so far am not liking it very much. I hope TAR starts pretty soon so there will be an alternative. I don't think I would watch if there was something else on. |
Realfan | Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 11:32 am     I'm getting really fed up with these contestants who mouth off to the judges. And their parents stand there so proud of them for doing it! Don't they realize the value of teaching them to respect their elders? Or respect people at all? That's how they'll be successful in this world, not by thinking their the greatest thing since sliced bread. I find these kids offensive and nauseating to listen to, and Simon is far, far too patient with them. It's gotten to where they think it's a competition to see if they can be insulting, and a great victory to score points against the judges--the people who are there to help them in their careers. Sickening. (I probably sound like a total old fogey, but what the hey--if my teenage son behaved like that, I'd die of embarassment.) I liked the marine best--I enjoyed his voice. Simon's comment about the sinking cruise ship cracked me up--that was the Poseidon Adventure song she was singing. Didn't see why Cory was all that. He'd be great cast as Michael Jackson in an MJ biopic. |
Pantageas | Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 11:36 am     My biggest problem with both last year's shows and this year's shows is the way the judges use their positions to sway votes. Corey Clark did NOT deserve a standing ovation last night. Especially if Joshua didn't get one. Why did he get it then? The judges decided they'd rather have him advance over the other semi-finalists, for whatever reasons. R.J. was pounded mercilessly by Simon's criticism last year, much of it undeserved. Why? Simon's favorites were Tamyra and Christina, and he wanted to whittle their competition down. He didn't hop on Kelly's bandwagon til mid-stream, and he saw that he couldn't cut into Nikki's "niche" group. This season Kim L. has "no personality", Vanessa is "fat", Nakesha "doesn't compare to Tamyra", etc. The 4 best performances last night in order were Josh, Chip, Nakesha, then Cory. But who got the standing ovation...? |
Ericka1012 | Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 11:40 am     Hereiam, after I ranted in this thread about the none talent we were given last night I almost felt bad this morning until I read you post. Thank you for confirming what I basically said. This was the most untalented group of sings they could have come up with. There was only one that had any talent, Joshau. From the thousands and thousands of people they see how did this group of people get this far. Next year they will have to rename this show "America's Most Untalented". Do I dare watch the finals hoping there is someone in the final 10 that really has talent? |
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