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Prisonerno6

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 07:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm surprised no one has commneted on Paula tweaking Simon's nipples yet. :-)

Seamonkey

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 08:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So far I'm liking Vanessa and Rickey/Herc..

Samantha's on now. pregnant? hmm.. I think she has lordosis of the back and an unfortunate dress, perhaps. A la sausage.

Oh, see what you mean about mom on the couch.. mom.. get outta there! Bring out the HOOK!

Seamonkey

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 08:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As for attitude last season.. you don't remember Justin??? And then his apology the next episode??

Ladytex

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 09:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well ... to say that I wasn't impressed by tonights show is an understatement. I even went potty in the middle instead of waiting for the commercial!

Djgirl5235

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 04:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sea - of course I remember Justin, but overall, he was the only one to disagree with the judges of the top 10. It just seems that every other contestant that is performing is back-talking to Simon every week. JMO of course!

I'm definitely not happy that party boy MJ wanna be made it through, I wasn't too impressed with him the first time we saw him. I do want to see how the marine does next week, as well as Patrick as he's so different from everyone else. I'm really worried for Patrick actually since the songs are all performed to the piano, and unless he sings something upbeat like an old Elton John or Billy Joel tune (sad I know) then it won't fit the image he's trying to project.

I wasn't terribly impressed last night, and thank goodness I wasn't the only one who thought Samantha looked pregnant in her dress. Get the parents out of there!!! They belong in an audience, not on TV, JMHO!

Texannie

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 05:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Don't like the parents, but at least they are keeping them contained now. Wasn't overly impressed either. Thought Samantha was pregnant too.

Conejo

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 05:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought that Randy and Simon were right on the money last night when they said that nobody really 'did it for them' - I agree!

Vanessa was the only one that even seemed to have good stage presence and captured my attention.

EEEEEEEEquoia needs to go home! She did absolutely nothting for me - toooo much attitude EEEEEEEEEEEEEquoia!

All the parents need to shut up! IMO

I too thought that Samantha looked pregnant or at least had a mini 'beer gut'.

Weenerlobo

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 05:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
DJGirl - ITA re: the attitudes. Way too many snaps going on this year. It's diminishing my enjoyment of the show because I don't think these kids' responses are benefitting them. I'm with Simon when he said that a lot of these kids would have made it into top 10 last year, but the bar has been raised and they gotta pull out something extra. Last night's group was kinda lackluster.

I love Vanessa's voice in the song she chose, but that outfit was unfortunate. I don't think she necessarily needs to drop poundage, maybe just be more discriminating with the clothing.

Samantha was singing along and I said to my husband, "She looks 3 months pregnant." He agreed and I think it's funny that we weren't the only ones thinking this!

Other than that, I enjoyed George's performance, maybe only because he had facial expressions that didn't seem forced and stiff.

Djgirl5235

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 06:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Weener - I am in complete agreeance with everything you posted above! The attitudes are definitely getting to be too much. The problem is that people are told from a very young age that if you want to succeed in the music industry you have to have thick skin and be able to take criticism. I'm afraid that no-one told these kids that based on the snapping retorts that we've been seeing!

George seemed to just enjoy himself up there last night...I don't think that he's going to advance though.

Vanessa's performance (if you didn't look at her in that outfit) was one of the best of the night, however, her oufit was a very unfortunate choice. I have a tendency to wear more "revealing" clothing when I perform in a show as well, but it's always done with a more discriminating taste...

I hope next week's show is better than last night's! Although I complained that I couldn't hear over the people in my house last night, I was also not really enraptured with the show last night given the show's performances last night. I agree that the talent is broader than last year's final 30, however, I was more enraptured last year because we seemed to have more diverse groups last year with clear favourites. As I said last night, and I will say it again: They put the best of the best in one group and now we're left to choose the best of the second-best for the round last night and potentially next week as well.

I agree with Simon that the wildcard round is going to completely blow last night's group out of the water, and I wouldn't be surprised to not see any of the "losers" from last night in the wildcard competition. JMHO of course! :)

Crazydog

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 07:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I voted for Kimberly Kelsey. She's beautiful and I thought she did a great job. I couldn't believe the one guy sang a Michael Bolton song. I didn't like Ricky - his voice was too high-pitched and I still don't understand why he keeps doing that Hercules Hercules bit from the Nutty Professor. It's childish. And I also didn't like that last guy, something about the way he looked directly into the camera the whole time, reminded me of Justin from last year.

Actually I thought this entire group was pretty pathetic.

Webkitty

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 08:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
So, who is going to get the wildcards? There are two of them, we get to vote on one of them, the judges pick the other.

So far, I think Clay has a good shot at one of them.

Next week is the last group for us to choose from, right? After that, the wildcards are choosen, then we start voting on the final ten.

Hermione69

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 08:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yep, next week is the last group. Then we start the wild cards and then we start whittling away at the final ten.

At this point I can't imagine that Clay WON'T get a wild card, but I don't want to get my hopes up. All it takes is one lackluster performance and you don't go any further.

My brother and I both liked Hadas from group 2 as well and felt she, like Clay, also outperformed most of groups 1 and 3. We'd like to see her do a different song if she competes for the wild card. "You light up my life" is just tired.

Brenda1966

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 08:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL about Samantha looking pregnant! My first thought when I saw her was "she needs a girdle!" That dress was not flattering at all to that poochy tummy.

I voted for Vanessa and Kim last night. Didn't get a single busy signal. I guess America was also unimpressed and not voting much.

While I don't necessarily agree with Simon that Vanessa needs to lose weight, I do agree that if she's going to wear skimpy slips she needs to work out and firm up a bit. She's a bit "soft" and toning up a bit would certainly help her presentation (this is coming from a complete soft and out of shape person - me).

Last night was blaaa. Song choice was not great. Attitude was not good. Lou, the cheerleader guy, was just glaring at Simon. If you're not ready to hear the criticism then you shouldn't be entering the contest.

Poor Clay. He better make it in the wildcard round or I'm going to riot.

BTW, Kraft dinner is YUMMY!

Djgirl5235

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 08:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It is Brenda, but not if it's the only thing you can eat for over a week - my wisdom tooth is absolutely killing my mouth right now (I'm going to the dentist tomorrow), and until it's removed Krap dinner is all I can eat...

Webkitty

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 08:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes Brenda, you hit the nail on the head (for me at least)
I kept thinking that Vanessa would benefit from a good strength training program to firm up.
That outfit she wore was not good for her.
Everyone is different, not all can have the natually lean genes, but eveyone can benefit from being in the best shape "they" can be. Not only from an asthetic perspective, but from a health perspective.

I'm sure performers are told all the time to loose weight, its just how it is. I would have liked it better if she had just said ok to Simon's comment and left. When these kids start with the smart mouth it turns me off, even if it seems justified at the time.
I will not vote for any of them that cop a 'tude. They all seem to have about equal singing talent this year, (to me) and I have to make my choice somehow.

I would also like to add that being natually thin can be a curse too. Not all people who are skinny are that way because they don't eat. (or vanity) I ended up in tears many times when I was younger because of taunts at my skinnyness. I couldn't help it, its the way I was built.
Now that I am older, and age has caught up with me, I have more padding, but I was a stringbean for many years. I say, cut the skinny people a break! lol!

PS: I love Kraft mac 'n cheese! I also like Stoffers frozen mac 'n cheese

Brenda1966

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 08:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I feel for you DJgirl! I had some fillings done over 6 months ago and had huge problems afterwards. I was in so much pain eating that I lost a few pounds. It stunk. I hope the dentist can fix things.

Maybe you could eat some Chef-boy-r-dee mini ravioli! :)

Oh, I'll comment on Paula tweaking Simon's nipples. I thought it was stupid and embarrassing to watch.

Another thing: I saw Ryan Seacrest on Leno last night. HE did a funny film for Leno about bull riding. I'm liking this guy more and more (I'm ashamed to admit). He's really quite entertaining without that stupid Dunkleman sidekick. Did anyone else see this?

Brenda1966

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 09:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Webkitty about the skinniness thing. I dropped all my baby weight and then some after my daughter was born and I still get comments "have a seconed piece of cake -- you need it". I may be soft and out of shape, but I'm still rail thin through no workout or diet plan or effort. People act like it's news to me that I'm thin. LOL!

For people in the entertainment business, their body and look is part of their job. So I think they should work out and do things to make their presentation as good as it can be. When I read about stars working out for 2 hours a day to prepare for a movie role I think "who has the time" but then I remind myself that is their "job". It's part of what they get paid the big bucks for.

Did Vanessa smart off to Simon? Yeah, I'm remembering now her saying something about her big booty and J Lo. J Lo still has a big booty, but she's toned.

Wcv63

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 09:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Vanessa is going to be the "one to watch" this time around. The only thing she has in common with Nikki is hair color. She can sing, her personality shines and I think she's got a "quality."

I'm keeping my eye on her. She peaked my interest in a way no one else has.

Hermione69

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 09:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I worked out hard for 5 years (Taebo, step, jogging, weights, you name it) and I never got rid of a soft look in my upper body. I think that is part of why I gave up and have yet to get started again although I know I need to for my health. Just like skinniness can be a curse, so can the genetic predisposition to look heavy. There are some body types that would literally have to starve themselves to look thin and/or toned.

Most of my exception with Simon's comments to Vanessa came because two people with extra weight advanced last week and he didn't say a word to either of them. If Simon felt Vanessa's outfit was not flattering to her shape as a lot of people here have suggested, that is what he should have said. That is not what he said. He said, "You need to lose weight." Kimberly is heavier than Vanessa, and Ruben is obese. Paint them all with the same brush or don't paint them at all and then let the public decide if they want a fat Idol or not.

Deej, I hope your teeth feel better soon!!

Crazydog

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 09:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
J. Lo does have a big butt, but the rest of her is in excellent shape. Vanessa has a big butt and it matches the rest of her. That dress was not a good choice. She should have gone with something black.

Hereiam

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 09:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
All I could think last night as I was watching was why couldn't Clay be in this group - or the first group for that matter. I am just very underwhelmed by most of the performances. As for the talking back to judges.... don't get me started! I also agree that families are better in the audiance.

I am a bit unclear how it works - we have one more group to take us to 8 finalists, then that would leave 2 wildcard spots. Do the judges just pick those? Or, do we have more competition for those 2 spots and who would gets to compete?

Djgirl5235

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 09:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Herm! It's driving me crazy, but I go to the dentist tomorrow - hopefully they'll take it out early next week.

I too have the soft upper body look as well (I swear we were separated at birth!), and have been going to Curves & changed my eating habits, however, it's next to impossible to change that predisposition. I completely agree with your reasoning behind your exception to Simon's comment last night - my thoughts exactly!!!

Hermione69

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 09:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
:) Deej. BTW, I sent the eCard again!

Hereiam, last year the judges gave out the wild card spot, but then, there was only 1 available. From what other posters have said, I think this year the public picks 1 spot and the judges pick the other.

Brenda1966

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 10:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hermi- I agree that some people's body structure is just what it is, workouts be darned! Simon's comment was unfair because he let two heavier people slide by the week before without a word about "losing weight". Perhaps it had to do with the outfits they wore being better suited to their body shape. A more fair thing to say: "if you want to wear a skimpy dress like that, get in better shape or else find something more flattering to wear."

Heriam - my understanding is that the wildcards will sing in two weeks. That's how they did it last year. I'm assuming there'll be 8 with 2 advancing. Clay better be one of them!

Hereiam

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 10:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks guys for the answers. Now one last question, How do they pick which 8 to sing again? Is it by vote totals?

I really think Clay better advance one way or another or there won't be that much competition in the final group. VERY underwhelmed with last night's performances.