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Hermione69

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 06:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You're cute, Vali!

Have a nice night you guys! It's bedtime for me. Or rather, read-in-bed-before-falling-asleep time.

Watching2

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 06:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am still in TOTAL SHOCK! So much so I just had to delete the last line I typed since my hands were on the wrong keys! There is no way in the world Ruben should have been in the bottom two. No Way At All!!! The camera focusing on Josh almost made you think he KNEW it should have been him!

People made a point of saying Rubens's church was providing phones for the votes, but before tonite no one mentioned that just maybe all those marines are flooding the votes. Sheeesh maybe they even have orders to vote for him! OK, that might be stretching it a bit, but come on!!!

Now I feel bad for even making those comments earlier about the judges being fair and picking on Ruben for the same comments they've made to the others! I truly assumed he would stay in the final two until maybe it got down to him, Kim and Clay! Absolutely not now! I mean Trenyce blew Josh's performances out of the water on her exit!!

Josh is so out of his league with the rest of these performers in this type of competition. Even my son who only listens from the sidelines was saying, the only one I don't like is the country guy. He belongs on a country show, not this one. My son also likes Simon the best because he most of the time is really right on about the performances. The comment Simon made about people voting for the people who can sing made total sense. I think there's some over zealous patriotism going on with Josh. Support our troops, YES(!) but don't misplace your votes when that is not the point of this show.

I wonder how long before my blood pressure goes down? LOL My son doesn't "get" just how into this we are, esp. when I told him I'm going to want that computer as soon as this show is over to get to my beloved TVCH board friends! Good thing The Bachelor is taping, because right now I'd normally be watching it and come here later. Not the case tonight! I was looking for something interesting, but just not this! Yikes!!

Twinkie

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 06:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, after watching that fiasco I have a headache, a sore throat from yelling, had to run for my blood pressure pills, and my hubby thinks I am totally insane. (he doesn't like reality TV)

Next week I will make sure I vote only for Clay and Ruben. Not that I've ever voted for anyone else anyway.

Hermione69

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 06:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Eek! I forgot all about the Bachelor until I read your post, Watching2! Oh well. No big whup. Hi ho, hi ho, off to bed I go!

I wonder if my "ho" will be moderated?

Hermione69

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 06:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
<feel better, Twinkie>

Mak1

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 06:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm away from home, and my dear BIL is letting me use his computer. I told him I need to go see what "my people" are saying about the show tonight. Seeing Ruben in the bottom 2 shocked all 4 of us who were watching, and we all were surprised that Josh had more votes than Trenyce, as well. I think this show has done a lot for her. She has shown improvement in her performance and in her hair and clothing choices. I'm happy to see Vali come out of lurk mode, too. I'm going to go read as much as I can on the previous pages and on the rest of the board without looking like the TVCH addict that I really am. Think I can pull it off? LOL (You miss so much when you go on vacation with limited computer time!!!!)

Seamonkey

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 06:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm amazed that AOL has already put up the results, not yet on their welcome screen, but at KW AmericanIdol.. also started up a new poll..
Josh and Kim fighting to stay out of last place at the moment.

47% Ruben
30% Clay
12% Kim
11% Josh

but early in the poll of course.

Sadiesmom

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 06:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have the ANSWER!

After each show, sell a single of that star's music selection. It will cost moeny, it will take an effort, you can only buy it that night. LOL, talk about DRIVING people crazy. They can give the money to charity <right> Then if you really like a song, you can get it. If some one buys 100 copies, so be it.

Vali

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 06:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Now, Sea, what I want to know is, how many times can you vote on AOL? What about people who have multiple e-mail accounts? Is it really fair?

Twinkie

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 06:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks, Herm!

Mygetaway

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 06:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Vali.. Only once per screen name (so up to 7) and only if you are an Aol'er I believe.

Sadiesmom

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 07:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I do have a thought about Josh contiuning. I think it is just as bad for him as it is for us.
If they really have to work 15-16 hour days (he does look like he likes to kick back with some beers) and then you have to go on TV and get humiliated by the judges, the only thing worse would be to win and have alienated everyone except the marine corps which really has more to do than vote for Josh.

Maris

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 07:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think what happened is all those army folks, marines with nothing to do just hit the phones and saved their marine buddy. There is no reason why Josh should not have been in the bottom. he knows it and so does everyone else. I am beginning to think that Josh may end up winning this thing even though he cant sing.

Simon will choke.

Llkoolaid

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 07:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My daughter was typing up a project and I kept saying hurry up, "are you almost done" stuff like that. I needed here.

My jaw dropped, I couldn't believe it. I remember Tamyra last year and it was the same thing tonight. Now this really scares me for Kim L. I can't vote so please say her if you can from being a victim of the Josh Sympathizers. I can't believe he has that many fans. Why was Rueben on the bottom, did people just assume he was safe and send their votes to save others. How did Josh get more votes. Was it the marine thing, the country thing, or the anti Simon thing.
Whatever it was it sucked.


I have thought of a final solution to the voting problem. From this date forward all voters must have at least 2 working brain cells. This obviously wasn't the case tonight and look at the results.

Vali

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 07:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
thanks, mygetaway!

still waiting on dinner?
mmm...dinner

Pamy

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 07:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am sure the Marines have things to do besides vote(the ones that are here are protecting the homeland). I think it boiled down to people not thinking they needed to vote for Rubin because he is so good.

Magikearth

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 07:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh my gosh! If Josh wins,would Simon still be obligated to support his career?

Llkoolaid

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 07:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think it is the marines voting at all, when I say the marine thing I mean I think the people are voting for Josh because of the war and the patriotic thing and he also has the support of the country fans. I don't think they are voting for Josh for his voice.

Walker

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 07:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
maybe its just that people have decided that they don't want ruben to be the next AI.

Llkoolaid

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 07:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What I find strange is that Rueben has been leading all the polls with Clay next. Why was it Rueben? I can see people thinking that Kim and Clay are better but how can anyone think that Josh is better than Rueben.

Sadiesmom

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 07:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The marines at home get to have down time, too. Just like the rest of us working stiffs. They get to make phone calls and cheer. I am sure that Josh's camp is keeping the home lines burning , just like the Churches in Birmingham.

I feel this bodes unwell for Kim or Clay, as all fan bases must be mobilized equally to cancel each other out.

Oh, I think we know where Carmen's voting base went, too. He did sing Baaaaaaa-d Blood

Mygetaway

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 07:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Vali.. dinner came and now I'm full. Son ate most of it. This is our night to "fend" for ourselves as the other kids go to church with their Mom, and DH works.

LL.. I'd be willing to say that several of my Kim votes were for you! For the last two weeks I've only voted for Kim because I wanted to make sure my votes counted, and she stayed in the comp.

See.. EVEN AccessHollywood was expecting Josh to go.

Llkoolaid

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 07:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Sadiesmom, I am worried too about Kim and Clay, people are going to worry about Rueben and make sure he makes it next week by protecting him and the Josh supporter are also there. Kim is just starting to climb. I would hate to see her lose out to Josh, as much as I didn't like Trenyce, she was a good singer and much better than Josh. This is just like the Tamyra thing last year.

Mygetaway

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 07:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Josh told Ryan he thought that was his last night.

He got anti-Simon votes, and less than normal people voted for Ruben because they felt he was safe.

Muse

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 07:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Ruben's close call was largely due to people assuming he was safe (and voting for those they thought were in danger, like Josh), and partially because he just didn't put in very exceptional performances last night. They weren't bad at all -- just nothing remarkable or different for him in any way (especially good or especially bad). That, combined with the strong hype for Ruben as the inevitable winner (backlash), probably lost him votes. The good news for Ruben fans, IMO, is that this will no doubt help him coast to the finals and probably win. Remember Justin Guarini almost getting eliminated in seventh place? I have no doubt that *his* close call helped him out. Ruben should step up his performances to ensure the win, though.

I think tonight's results put both Kimberley and Clay in more danger in the future. And Josh will go eventually...his fans might have the power to keep him around for awhile, but he'll go eventually. Hope it's next week -- not just because he's the least talented of the bunch (IMO), but because he's getting a lot of nastiness directed his way now. Obviously it's not really his fault people are voting for him, but people will blame him anyway.