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Gracieo

Friday, April 18, 2003 - 12:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi, all...this is my first message on here. I've been reading all these posts for this past week and I think this is a terrific board. Before this I was part of the Bolt board that IdolOnFox uses, and it was just too juvenile for me. So I'm glad I was "linked" to you guys!

Anyway, I just wanted to ask your opinion about something. So far, the boot has gone m-f-m-f-m-f. If that's the case, and not just my suspicion, then the next to go will be a guy. Which mean's Carmen's safe, and it might be Josh! Any thoughts on that?

BTW...my fave is Kim Locke.

Hobbs

Friday, April 18, 2003 - 12:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi Gracieo. Good subject. Although it's hard to guess before the performances each week, I've been thinking Josh is next unless Carmen or Terynce have a really bad performance. Kim, Josh, and Ruben are definately safe.

Monkeyboy

Friday, April 18, 2003 - 12:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yea, i have a feeling that Josh or Trenyce will go next. But i also have this feeling that we will have another "Tamyra incident" like last year and Kim, Clay or Ruben might go. ( I sure hope I am wrong!)

Gracieo

Friday, April 18, 2003 - 12:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree that it's tough to guess. I would still hope that Carmen would go, only because IMO she's the least talented of those who are left (please don't jump me...I just think the others others are more marketably talented than she and deserve to stay, although I believe she has potential with training and good producers).

I'm guessing the rest will finish:
1. Ruben
2. Clay (if it's not m-f-m as I suspect; otherwise Kim will be here)
3. Kim (see above comment)
4. Josh
5. Trenyce

Of course, Carmen is the wild card (literally) in all this. I never understood Simon's blind support and I understand America's support even less now. I'm just glad Kim Locke survived her bottom-3 finishes and is still around. I think Ruben will win, and I love Clay's voice, too; but I think Kim is the most unique; she's MY pick for the best.

Gracieo

Friday, April 18, 2003 - 12:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yikes Monkeyboy! I hope you're wrong, too. But Carmen apparently has fans of unshakable devotion, so who knows?

Walker

Friday, April 18, 2003 - 12:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hi gracieo and welcome..i agree that carmen should certainly go next..in my opinion she should have gone after charles..she's been very lucky so far but i think her luck has just about run out and it's time to start packing.

Maris

Friday, April 18, 2003 - 01:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree time for Carmen to start packing, its amazing she got this far. I am sure she realizes that she is out of her league. She seemed resigned that it would be her last week.

I think it will be

6.Carmen
5.Trenyce
4.Josh
3.Clay
2.Ruben
1.Kim

Gracieo

Friday, April 18, 2003 - 01:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for the welcome, Walker.

And Maris, your list looks perfect to me. If only in a perfect world.

Pantageas

Friday, April 18, 2003 - 01:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it will be Trenyce, cause...

...Carmen is the 'Debbil'!

Hobbs

Friday, April 18, 2003 - 01:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lol Pantageas! Every time I see that I laugh harder and harder. We need to start the "Debbil Fan Club" for you.

Brenda1966

Friday, April 18, 2003 - 01:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was thinking that all the girls will go next and we'll be left with the guys. I don't know that Kim L has a big fan base yet, but maybe she's building one. I certainly see Terynce and Carmen going before Josh. Then Kim and Josh will go leaving Clay and Ruben as the final 2. I'm sure the judges and producers are hoping we don't eliminate all the remaining females first, but I can see it happening. I think Kim L will be this year's Tamyra and will go earlier than deserved.

Foliage

Friday, April 18, 2003 - 05:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Now is the time to fear another Tamyra incident! Yes based on performance Carmen or, IMO Joshua should go, but the pool is small now and a motivated fan club can push this year's "Nikki" on. We can't assume people are objective judges of talent, vote for the best and vote often!

Llkoolaid

Friday, April 18, 2003 - 06:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Carmen is safe for next week and maybe even one more. Where are Kim Caldwell's votes going? a lot to Carmen probably. Trenyce is toast this week. Bottome 3 Kim, Trenyce and Carmen.

I think the boot order will be all based on where the votes of the person booted the week before go.

Trenyce
Carmen
Kim
Josh
Clay
Rueben

Maris

Friday, April 18, 2003 - 07:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
if you look at the votes on aol this week, the kim caldwell votes seem to be going to Kim L.

Llkoolaid

Friday, April 18, 2003 - 07:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Can you post a link to that Maris, I would appreciate it if you could.

Llkoolaid

Friday, April 18, 2003 - 07:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope the votes go to Kim, she is my new favorite, I always liked her but I am hoping she will win now.

Mygetaway

Friday, April 18, 2003 - 09:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Reuben 39% 28,746

Clay 30% 22,339

Josh 13% 9746

Kim 9% 6900

Carmen 4% 3311

Trenyce 4% 2858

Total votes 73,900

This was about 9 pm PT. Votes are changing by the minute.

Hummingbird

Friday, April 18, 2003 - 09:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Trenyce to go next.Clay to win.

Snee

Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 01:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
carmen or trenyce next to go.

Wcv63

Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 01:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Carmen has to go next. Right? Right.

Marameko

Monday, April 21, 2003 - 08:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Carmen deserves to go next.

Hermione69

Monday, April 21, 2003 - 09:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have a feeling that it will be Trenyce. I think some of Kim C's votes will go Carmen's way.

Maris

Monday, April 21, 2003 - 10:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The AOL poll as of today

42%
Ruben Studdard 55,089

28%
Clay Aiken 35,844

13%
Joshua Gracin 17,319

8%
Kimberley Locke 10,243

5%
Carmen Rasmusen 6,050

4%
Trenyce 5,302
Total votes: 129,847

Hermione69

Monday, April 21, 2003 - 10:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Looks like Ruuuuuuuben is a strong contender to win. I wonder what the AOL poll looked like this time last season? Although I have my favorite, as most of us do, there are several people up there that I would be just fine with winning. I've enjoyed this season a lot. I enjoyed last season a lot, too. :) I'm just a happy camper, aren't I?

Jeep

Monday, April 21, 2003 - 11:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The AOL poll is interesting, but 129,000 votes is nothing compared to the millions actually called into AI. There could be some shuffeling around where the contestants are close. I'm like Hermione, there are several people that I would be OK with winning. Sometimes, being #2 or #3 gives the person more options than just being tied into Simon's contract.

I too have enjoyed this year a lot. Didn't watch last year. Hope they do it again next year!

Twinkie

Monday, April 21, 2003 - 01:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I really think that the judges should have more of a hand in who goes and who stays. I don't think that the average American is always a good judge of who has real talent as opposed to who they just like. The judges have been in the business for years and know what to look for. Having said that, I don't ever listen to anything that Paula says. She either really thinks they are all great or she just wants everyone to like her. I think Simon gives honest critiques whether people like it or not and most of the time I think he is right on the money. Randy occasionally says something besides "you did your thang, dawg." and gives them some real critiqueing.

My personal picks (and I'm no expert) are:

6. Carmen
5. Trenyce
4. Josh
3. Kim L
2. and 1. either Clay or Ruben...I won't be upset with whichever one wins.

Ginger1218

Monday, April 21, 2003 - 03:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Twinks baby, I agree with you 100% same order.

Maris

Monday, April 21, 2003 - 03:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree on 6, 5, and four. I believe that Clay will be three, Ruben two and for the win we will have Kim L.

I believe that they are more inclined to have a woman win as a solo artist. I think even though the judges do not have a vote they can sway things in terms of how they present things for the call in. I am betting as we move forward you will start seeing the judges go after Clay more as a lounge act and go after Ruben more as being too predictable and being a great Teddy Pendergrass, Luther imitator but without originality. I am betting if Kim stays with her original interpretations, you will see judges throwing their weight around her. Josh has no chance (watch him win, lol)

Does Kim L play a musical instrument? Does anyone know?

Holly11

Monday, April 21, 2003 - 06:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hello, I like Reuben but as an American Idol, I am just not sure. I think the final 3 will be Clay, Reuben and Kim. Josh is good but I really think people are keeping him around because of Josh being in the military. I like Carmen but it is a puzzle how she is staying in. Someday I think she can be a good singer, she just needs more time. I think the bottom 3 this week will be Carmen, Trenyce and I am tied between Kim and Josh.

Hummingbird

Monday, April 21, 2003 - 08:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I feel like Trenyce will exit next. I am liking Carmen more and more and wish everyone (including Simon)wouldn't be so hard on her. I have an insight on the green dress with the black t-shirt under it that everybody disliked. I think Carmen is a Mormon girl. Mormon girls are taught to dress modestly and don't wear clothes that show a lot of skin. You won't see them often in spagetti strap dresses and shirts or in shirts and pants that expose the navel. They often wear those type dresses as jumpers with a dressy t-shirt. I would never ridicule someone for adhering to their church standards ogf dress. There is even a website that specializes in Mormon (LDS) prom gowns. I think it is beautifullymodest.com or something like that. The dresses are gorgeous but all have the shoulders covered. Anyway, I think Carmen has a lot of class and some of the others could take note. Both Kim's have worn some trashy looking Brittany Spears outfits and Kim Locke doesn't look good in tight, skin-baring stuff. She looked so much better in that black leather jacket she wore on Billy Joel night.

Amabrat

Monday, April 21, 2003 - 09:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is it just me or are there others out there who
think that Ruben did not sing well today. It
should be Clay all the way. Then either Kim L.
or Trenyce. Ruben has not sung well for the past
few times. We will see how he does tomorrow.

Ladytex

Monday, April 21, 2003 - 09:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No one is making fun of her because she chooses to dress modestly, it was just an awful outfit! There has to have been other outfits for her to choose from that didn't look like that. I've seen plenty of LDS girls that dress nicely, and I've seen them wear spaghetti straps dresses as jumpers. There are more than one websites that specialize in modest wear for LDS girls. I appreciate that she doesn't want to come off looking like a hoochie, but I still think that she needs to pick better clothes to wear.

Marameko

Tuesday, April 22, 2003 - 06:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It does not matter what Carmen wears, at this point she is not deserving to be in this competition. There is NO WAY she can out perform even Trenyce. While Trenyce is not a fav of mine she absolutely nailed the Whitney Houston song that she performed on Monday, 4/21.