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Fruitbat

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 08:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I will definately watch the Bachelorette. I like this tacky show but tonights was way too long. An hour format would be fine.

Twinkie

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 08:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
On the whole the show was boring and should have only been 1 hour.

Fruitbat

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 08:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe they will have it on the NY news too. What is A&A?

Hermione69

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 08:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Way too long and now I have been suckered into watching for the A & A update. I should be in bed! Sigh, the things I do for Reality TV.

Hermione69

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 08:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Fruit- It's just my abbreviation for Alex and Amanda.

Wendo

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 08:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hermione69 said, "And watching Brooke cry was nothing but bad."

Agree with this statement. So uncomfortable to watch I was about to turn the channel when it went to commercial. Didn't like this part.

Interesting article at MSNBC.com about this show.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/837654.asp?0bl=-0

Here's a quote from the article,

" “The show gives us a chance to laugh at every action that personifies the ‘dumb b@tch’ gene most of us women strive to control,” Amanda Parker, 23, a law student in Athens, Ga., writes via e-mail. “Those women, on the other hand, seem to have taken a big swan dive in the dumb-b@tch gene pool. . . .”
       “Who cries that much?” she asks. “Have they never heard of self-respect? Pride?” "

Wow. Ouch.

Here's another link to an article too:

http://www.msnbc.com/news/827235.asp?0bl=-0

Sbw

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 08:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Interviews on GMA and the View tomorrow.

Buying the ring himself told me that he was really "feeling" it. One of those comments he said in the end was that now he was glad to be able to say it. I think all the other stuff was coached.

Fruitbat

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 08:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I fell in love with my husband very quickly. 6 weeks is plenty of time. Getting to know someone does not create that in love deal, that is why many fall in love with creeps. I was very lucky, we have been married for 30 years.

Wendo

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 08:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Have to agree with what others have said about the length of tonight's show. Way too long. Too much filler. An hour would've been plenty.

Cupcake

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 08:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL at Hermione 69! The things we ALL do for reality TV. I haven't told any of my friends I watch these shows. It is my secret addiction. I am looking forward to having the tables turned with one woman and have 24 guys cry over her (just kidding - but a male version of Christi, wouldn't that be funny?)

Hey, Fruitbat, A&A was referring to Alex and Amanda.

Hermione69

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 08:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think I have ever been in love. Maybe I am just jealous!

Twinkie

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 08:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hubby and i fell for each other right away and have been together now for over 7 years.

Hermione69

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 08:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, this just SUCKS, they are doing an update on Alex and Amanda (per Amanda) on the local affiliate and they did not caption it! I have no idea what she said, but I don't think they are still together. Anyone else see it?

Fruitbat

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 08:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am waiting for it to appear here, if it does. I hope someone caught it. If they were engaged we would know it, dont you think?

Hermione69

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 08:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think so too, Fruitbat. I think it went nowhere fast.

Well, guys, its been fun. I actually enjoyed chatting with y'all waaaaay more than I enjoyed the finale.

G'nite!

Sbw

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 08:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Apparently when he was engaged before she was from Tulsa. They were having a house built in a Tulsa suburb when the engagement ended. He did say he now knew there was such a thing as true love. The ex declined to be interviewed. (This was on the Tulsa news station.)

The talking and kissing, I think part of it was nerves from the cameras. I was glad it was 2 hours. I just wish they had shown the SILs comments about Brooke. I think that said a lot! I was amazed at how well Brooke handled the whole thing.

Cliotheleo

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 08:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree, it SHOULD have been an hour long show BECAUSE I FORGOT TO ADJUST MY VCR SETTINGS AND MISSED THE LAST HALF HOUR!!!! ARGH!!!!

Oh well, thanks to you guys, nice play by play.

I thought in the interview at the beginining of this season Alex and Amanda where still together? Do we think that was juts BS since it was done by the show?

Knightpatti

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 08:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I went to sleep during the show because it was too long! I had a hard time waiting for the end. I think that Aaron was always much happier around Helene. He was always smiling with her. He was very serious with Brooke. Helene gets on my nerves. For an educated peron, she says "you know" too much. Her voice bothers me, too. But I am not living with her. Aaron is very rich! No wonder they all said he was more than what they ever wanted in a man.

I thought Helene was very pretty tonight and I do wish the best for them. I think that Aaron is very serious about the whole matter.

One thing that bothers me is how he could kiss all those women and keep kissing them when he said he was in love with Helene. It must of have been acting for the show, but then he was playing with all their emotions. That part really stinks for the other women and for Helene.

Mamaanja

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 08:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They had an interview with Aaron on our ABC local news tonight after the finale. He said that he and Helene have seen each other twice since the show finished filming and talked on the phone every day. He said the separation has put a strain on their relationship, she's not moving to Springfield any time soon, they are going to take it slowly. He's looking forward to being able to go on dates like a normal couple.

The interviewer asked him if he would get in touch with Gwen or Brooke if it didn't work out with Helene. He said that he could see being in touch with some of the girls regardless because he got close to them--"sort of a pen pal relationship". (huh?)

Maybe it was the pressure of the day (I imagine he's done a ton of interviews) but he didn't seem as excited about Helene as he did when he proposed. I'm a romantic, I hope it works out! I hope I remember to tape Good Morning America, or whatever it is...

They also showed Amanda on a commercial during the finale. They are having a casting call here in Kansas City for the next Bachelor and Bachelorette. I guess us midwesterners are desirable folk! Tee Hee.

Fabnsab

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 09:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
God, that sucked. I cannot stand Helene and to see her smug butt win tonight frosted my cookies!
Fruitbat, I am with you on the patting of the back. It is so obvious to me she wasn't as in to him as he was her. Yes, some of it could have been nerves, but come on. I pat customers who hug me on the back, not the man I am falling in love with. She wanted the "win" and she got it. Don't even get me started about the talking while kissing thing! Brooke is a class act and I would LOVE to see her as the next Bachelorette. She is a firecracker, not as boring as Gwen.

They need to do a better job editing next year because it was apparent from show 1 that Helene was going to win.

Aaron buying the ring did boost him up in my eyes though. That was a sincere thing to do.

Meggieprice

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 09:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tonight is my first watch this time (watched the last one start to finish)- since TAR was on at 8 I thought I would have a look. There is something just not quite right about the concept of acting like you still have not decided between two women up to the moment you propose marriage to one of them. That weird premise keeps me from really buying into it- that is why I didn't tape this one.

Sisteronline

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 10:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm weighing in a bit late but.......

1. I don't care for Helene (from what I saw on the show) She almost acted like she was above what was going on......who signed her up? Was she taken at gun point and forced to be on the show? KWIM?

2. I did like Brooke but, I think she is young and will do just fine on her own.

3. I thought he screwed up when he let Gwen go!

How can you be in love with one and sticking your tongue down another's throat?

If I were Helene and saw all those shows with him and Brooke, I think I'd be asking the question....what the heck were you thinking?

The whole premise of the show is sort of sickening but, I didn't miss an episode.....LOL

from what I read above...he's only seen her twice since the show finished filming....I guess that's so word wouldn't get out? She's not relocating? Weird! I hope we can keep up with them and find out how things go.

As far as him buying the ring, that didn't do a thing for me.

It was good entertainment!

I did feel sorry for Brooke and actually thought the flower in Helene's hair was pretty, my daughter hated it....LOL

Looking forward to the Bachlorette!

Sis online :)

Muse

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 10:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was pretty sure Aaron would pick Helene. Eh. I liked Brooke better. I sort of feel like it was Trista and Amanda all over again (a "challenge" who was just kind of lukewarm about the guy vs. a younger woman who had genuine feelings for him), and this time he chose Trista. Aaron always seemed more comfortable with Helene (although he did seem to like Brooke a lot, too), but she always seemed a bit distant. The pat on the back, fake laugh, and talking during kissing seemed sort of *off* to me.

I wish Aaron had eliminated Brooke in the last round. I think Gwen could have handled it a little better (being a little more mature and perhaps not quite as sensitive as Brooke), and I really think Aaron made Helene his choice awhile back. But hey...good for Brooke for preparing herself and not trying to make Aaron feel bad. I was uncomfortable seeing her cry in the limo, but she's just too emotional not to get upset when they started asking her questions, IMO.

Anyway...I don't think Aaron is that bad of a guy. He's a little too careful about his image (something that I don't like in reality show contestants), but I think he's that way in real life to some extent...lol. And he might be a bit full of himself, but he seems to have good intentions. I think he did go on the show looking for a relationship (and maybe also to promote his restaurant and such, but the relationship was the main factor), unlike Alex. And he did seem to feel bad about hurting some of the women.

I'm looking forward to The Bachelorette. It's about time the tables are turned. :) (Just wish they picked someone besides Trista...bleh)

Seamonkey

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 10:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I only saw this twice.. when he had to cut from 3 to 2, and tonight.. and.. I liked the one he cut each time.

I would have to take an axe to Helene if she kept up with that incessant giggle.

But, his choice.

Very long show, but nothing else on tv really..

oh well.

Clp

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 11:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ARGH - Helene!! YUK! I think Brooke ends up the big winner here - I am in Alabama and we are hearing rumors she is dating the QB for Alabama - and he is very cute by the way! Anyway, as my hubby said "If you had said to me 'Thank you, you made a wise choice' after I proposed I would have run away" Helene was into the win and I can totally hear her on the phone with Aaron these last 6 weeks..."AAAAAAAAAAAron, you kissed Christi, and Suzanne, Heather blah blah, its like you know omigod and like everything!" BLAH! But I am sad it is over - I LOVED THIS TRAIN WRECK!