Archive through April 02, 2003
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Archive through April 02, 2003
Fruitbat | Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 10:19 pm     You missed....."nailed". Quick like a bunny, the expression goes, anyhoo. |
Wargod | Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 10:36 pm     Everyone knows I'm wierd, right? I enjoyed everyone tonight. They all seemed to have fun doing thier songs, they were spunky...that's what I enjoy. I felt for Josh, since having to sing while sick probably isn't the most fun thing to do. My favorites are the same as always, grinned all the way through Clay and Ruben, tapped my foot with Carmen (first time I've had that reaction to her!) and laughed like crazy when I saw what the guest judge was wearing followed by several "oh my's, what the heck is he wearings?" Had a good time though, and for me, that's what its about. |
Fruitbat | Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 10:41 pm     I have never thought you weird, only simple minded. I have reaccessed that given your take on Carmen and Vernine's attire, however. You are brilliant. |
Wargod | Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 10:51 pm     LOL, gramma bat! |
Seamonkey | Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 11:15 pm     The guest judge was truly odd looking.. I was shocked and fascinated throughout.. so much so that I forgot to scope out Kim C's underarms. Hermi.. I agree that Simon's comment about Kim L's song being Ryan's favorite was a cheap shot but Ryan makes way more gay innuendo cheap shots at Simon, so I guess it is fair if still uncomfortable to hear. I'm on West Coast and didn't have any trouble voting for Kim L. But I tried Ruben once and got right through for him which surprised me. Didn't really do that many votes.. was making my bed. And now, time to sleeeep. Gotta wake up in Survivor mode.. |
Beachcomber88 | Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 12:23 am     Well, just scrolled through 282 posts here on the West Coast, so I guess everything that's worth saying has already been said. But I'll chime in anyway... Kim L. has become my favorite. The first 10 seconds were slow, but then she really put her weight into it and belted it to the moon. The joke about Ryan being gay...his co-host on his radio show always makes digs at him about this on the air. To me he doesn't seem to be, because he talks about dates that he's been on and so forth. But the way he dresses makes me wonder. I've made some comments about Rooben in the past. (Ducking from the flying tomatoes.) I still don't think he's all that, but he is beginning to win me over. I will not change my opinion however about his stoopid 205 shirts. He needs to have another meeting with that flamboyant People magazine fashion consultant. Clay may have a great voice, but he is very boring. He looks more and more like somebody who would sing the hymns in church. Hey Ricky, you owe me a new set of wine glasses. Your shrieking falsetto shattered them. And has anyone told you that the oversized afro wig is no longer funny nor original? I have a feeling tomorrow night you'll be joining your other "upper registry" buddy Corey. My pick for tomorrow's bottom three...Ricky, Joshua, and Kim C. I am a huge Billy Joel fan and am looking forward to next week. Waiting for Trenyce to reluctantly promote "Honesty", Kim C to admit she's a "Big Shot", and Ricky (if pigs fly and he's still around) to finally "Say Goodbye to Hollywood". |
Whoami | Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 12:48 am     How can I get a message out to Trenyce, to beg her to keep her fingers folded securly around her microphone? It's become the only thing I see when she performs. I'm getting to the point of being obsessed. It drives me up the wall. I can see myself in a few years when my mind finally snaps. I'll be huddled in the corner, rocking to and fro muttering, "her fingers...please make her stop flapping her fingers...." Nobody but my Mom and the TVCH will have a clue what I'm muttering about! Maybe we can bribe her makeup artist to put a little glue on the tips of her fake fingernails. Then when she grabs the mic, they'll stick to it and stay there! |
Djgirl5235 | Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 04:52 am     Hey everyone! I avoided the boards last night to be with my bf for the evening... He's been feeling a little left out on Tuesday nights! Anyway - here are my thoughts on the performances, for whatever that's worth... Ricky - 1st on stage, always hard; he did well with it, but he has more control in his upper register, and seemed to falter with the lower. I thought he did alright, and definitely had fun with it. I didn't like him talking back to Simon however, but we'll see how that plays out tonight. Carmen - I actually loved this performance. It was definitely her best so far - she keeps improving each week, and that's nice to see. I do think she may be this year's Nikki, but that remains to be seen. She is getting stronger as this progresses, and she definitely chose a song that suited her voice. (She's cute as a button too, so that doesn't hurt her) Clay - I liked this performance, and the goosebumps were there as always, but, I think that Clay has "White Man Syndrome" when it comes to "dancing & grooving" and that's why he doesn't move around the stage too much. His attitude that has been spoken of here, for me, was non-existent. He basically stated that the contrasting critiques were confusing, and hard to take anything away from when they were getting polar opposite comments. That's what I took from it anyway Ruben - I don't get it either MamaBat! He's okay, not fantastic, in my books - but that's just me. He doesn't do it for me, and I don't get the same physical reaction from Ruben that I do from Clay. AND SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE HIM A NEW OUTFIT!!!!! Trenyce - Click on the microphone. Click on the microphone... driving me crazy. She sounds okay, but is definitely trying too hard to emulate Whitney, and that's not a good thing. At least Ruben & Clay & Kimberley L make the song sound like they recorded it themselves - Trenyce tries too hard to be Whitney Houston, and that's all wrong. Kimberly C - I'm going to start turning my tv off when she's on - she screeched throughout that entire song, and both my bf and I wondered what song she was singing. I, personally, thought it was awful, and if I had been judging would have told her the same as Paula (which, btw, I fell off my chair when she actually gave criticism - take a HUGE notice of that criticism, because it's rare, but right on point!) Kimberly L - the beginning was too low for her voice, but man did she ever bring it through the rest of the song! I sat up higher on the couch to listen better - I absolutely loved it! Josh..... Being a singer, I do not accept the "I have a cold" excuse. If you are actually a singer, you know how to work around it and give a fabulous performance. I would like to turn your attention back to about August of last year, when Kelly performed with fullblown laryngitis... She completely nailed her song, and that's the sign of a true performer. I don't think Josh's heart is in it anymore, and it's showing, so he's using the "cold" excuse. I will not accept that! As for Simon - he is being especially harsh the past couple of weeks, and I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that he has a mental image of who he wants to win. He did the same thing last year with Kelly & Tamyra and flip-flopped between them each week as to "You should win this competition". It's nothing new with him, and I have a feeling that next week, he'll be back to loving Clay again... just my thoughts... |
Marameko | Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 05:45 am     Questions and a comment: ******What was up with Kimberly Locke's dress ???It was not not flattering at all. And she is so pretty. That was a poor choice, she sang just ok. ***** While I think Reuben will win I did not like his version of the Barry White song. And I want someone to help him select another outfit. I know it is hard to find clothes at that size, buttttttt he can do better than the 205, it is no longer a novelty. **** I love the song Clay sang and he did it well. I think he wil desevedly be the runner up, the boy can "sang". As to Verdine White <guest judge>......the man is from Earth, Wind & FIRE, HE HAS MADE "IT" and is a legend to EWF fans like myself and that is the way he wears his hair and has done so for a longtime. Do I like his hair ,NO, do I like his music.......ABSOLUTELY.I just wish his brother Maurice could have been on the show to hear his comments, he is a musical wonder. |
Stcmom | Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 05:56 am     My observations for the night: Corey...I think that controversy was handled very well and it was good that they gave Corey a chance to give his side of the story. Ricky...I think he was trying too hard, moving around the stage too much, he has problems with lower register notes. He really shouldn't have answered Simon back, I do think this will cost him a lot of votes. Carmen...she performed the song well but she was so pitchy that it was really painful. I think Randy was right with his comments, and Simon is losing credibility with me by his unconditional support for this girl. Kim C...I thought was terrible, she over sung the song, she tried too hard to be sexy I expected her to start peeling off her clothes. She should be in bottom 3. Clay... was Clay, for those who love him he was perfect, for the detractors I understand if this performance didn't make them change their mind but he was technically perfect. I respected that he didn't try to dance around like Ricky if that wasn't truly his style, I do think he was a bit more inhibited than Motown probably because he did not want to be "disco musical". Simon's comments were especially harsh and arbitrary to me because he didn't even give him any reason to why he thought he was terrible and I thought this made Simon look wishy washy. I truly disagree with people who thinks Clay was whining in the end. The difference with his comments last night with ricky's, Kim L's and Julia's judge interactions was that Clay was answering a direct question from Ryan that nobody had the guts to answer. He was honest, and respectful and was even witty in how he dissed simon in the end. Kimberley C's comments in contrast sounded like a beauty pageant answer. Kim L....Has a problem with lower register but was so awsome after that that you can overlook the difficulty. She was pretty but clothes were not good. Ruben...Always liked Ruben but he is overrated. All the comments about him always compares him to Luther and Barry White...which makes him just another good R&B singer in my eyes not a superstar. His choices are always safe...he is singing the songs in very much the same way...His voice is also starting to sound scratchy to me. Simon's unconditional support for him is also going to backlash on Ruben if he does not watch out Trenyce...at first I really was impressed with her performance until Simon made his comments that she didn not improve on whitney...I realize he is right, she would need to find her own sound. Josh...had a poor performance, his versatility is really questionable, his movements on stage was not smooth at all, trying too hard. Judges really did him a favor by bringing up his health situation but that is really not an excuse for true performers. All in all it was a disturbing night because I am starting to believe that Simon has hidden agendas with his comments and it is unfair for these kids cause they take his comments to heart..I am looking forward to the next few weeks...bottome three, Kim C, Rickey, Josh...I think RIckey will be leaving. |
Iscreamer1 | Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 06:06 am     Does anyone think Simon is just p*ssed off by the negative press the show has been getting because of the somewhat shady pasts of some of the contestants. I'm not sticking up for Simon but maybe he is just fed up and doesn't have enough show biz in himself to hid it on stage. BTW I really love reading the comments here you all have great insight. |
Conejo | Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 06:46 am     Ok, here goes! Verdeen looked like some Drag Queen Pimp - but did make some good comments. Ricky - I think it's time for you to pack up your "upper register" and hit the "High" road. Kim C - OMG were her armpits hairy???? Never did care for her and it seems like every week she is getting worse instead of better. Carmen - Great performance last night! Josh - Miserable performance. Did anyone else notice that Randy (i think) asked him if he had a cold/was sick and he said yes - then he told Ryan that was just the way his voice sounds?? Which is it Josh?? And tell the truth. Clay - I kinda getting tired of him - very boring performance. Trenyce - Just OK. LOVE that finger tapping on the microphone! hehehehe Ruben - I guess I just don't get it - he does absolutely nothing for me - it seems like he's gasping for air when he sings. Oh, and get yourself some new clothes - please! Kim L - Started off slow and then really nailed it! Overall, I thought it was a pretty boring show - I didn't get any goose bumps! Thought that Kim L & Carmen were the best last night. JMHO FWIW  |
Skypilot | Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 07:01 am     Last year I really liked Simon (with the exception of only a few occasions)but this year I think the man is being a complete <>. I think that if he doesn't like someone's performance then he should be able to offer them something other than that annoying indifferent shrug and the comment that "we are looking for a superstar". Superstars come in all shapes, sizes and types. He seems to have a very narrow conception of what a superstar is or could be. I think that has something to do with his support of Carmen. I don't remember him saying anything really negative about her performances over that past few weeks and last night her told her that she was the most "commercial" of the contestants--which I guess could be considered negative but I think he meant it in a good way. Un fortunately, I think "commercial" is what he is after this year which would be fine, I guess, if only he weren't going for the bland-blond-with-a-just-OK-voice kind of commercial. I've seen enough images of Britney Spears and Carmen seem cut out of the same mold. Simon's support of her reminds me of how in the '70's after Farrah Fawcett left "Charlie's Angels" all the networks were off on a search to find the "next big blond". This seems to be what "commercial" is all about. Finding something that worked with one person and then preceeding to run it right into the ground. Frankly, I hope Carmen does not win. The music industry needs to give it a rest with that "type" and I would love to see the look on Simon's face when Carmen is finally given the boot. Sorry for the rant but Simon has really been p***ing me off this season. GO CLAY!!! GO REUBEN!!! |
Hummingbird | Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 07:49 am     I don't see Ccarmen as a Brittany Sprears clone. For one thing she dresses modestly. I think we are being a tad rough on her. She is only seventeen years old. She could mature into a decent singer. She has a lot of poise for a young kid and is always polite, no matter what she gets from the judges. Remember those smart alecks in the earlier stages of the competition who thought they were above any kind of criticism. I'm not saying she should win but she is at least as good as Trenyce, Kim C., Ricky and Josh. |
Skypilot | Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 08:00 am     Hummingbird You are right. I am being a bit hard on her. It is really a case of displaced aggression. I am sick of Simon this year and Carmen was his "wild card" choice. And you are right also in that she does not cop the attitude that some of those "divas" did earlier however I do still see her as a Britney clone--at least one in the making. If she signed on with a major record label and they had a go at her it would only be a matter of time before they molded her just so. |
Bandit | Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 08:28 am     Herm - I'm sorry you're in a funk - and I'm NOT going to skip over your posts - I love what you have to say. And I want you to know that I actually thought of you last night as I was watching the part where Simon said that Clay's perfomance was terrible. The look on Clay's face was soooooo sad, and I thought "Hermione isn't going to like this!" :-) |
Pantageas | Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 08:32 am     Wow, Stcmom. I can understand someone not "feeling" Ruben...but did you just say that Barry White and Luther Vandross are just "good" R & B singers, not superstars? |
Brenda1966 | Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 08:49 am     I was looking forward to disco night, but last night was marginal again. No goosebumps for me from any of them. Josh was horrible. If he's not in the bottom 3, then people aren't voting based on singing, they're simply voting for him as a marine. Kim L. was horrible in the beginning. I couldn't believe how bad she sounded singing low. Later was fine but I hate that song and thought her dress was unflatterring. Carmen surprises me. She's getting better. Kim C. - same as usual. Surprised to see PAula actually criticize someone. I still don't know what "pitchy" means, but I know I don't like her voice. Ruben is good. Clay is my favorite, but the past 2 weeks he has not shined. Neither one has blown me away recently. Terenyce is too diva-like for me. Yuck. Ricky wasn't good. He'll be gone. Simon looks bored and disgusted. I didn't see Clay's "confusion" comment as whiney at all -- I'M confused by Simon. He used to offer constructive criticism and now he just grunts at them. I think I'm getting a crush on Ryan *blush*. He annoyed me last year, but without his side kick he's a good, witty host and he seems to have genuine rapport with the contestants. |
Frogichik | Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 08:50 am     I agree with Simon that Clay does have a great voice, but he sounds exactly the same every week to the point that its getting boring. He would be fantastic on Broadway, but I don't see him a pop star. |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 08:51 am     You are a sweetheart, Bandit! I'm feeling better today. Hopefully my "bad moon" is on the decline. I am going through a period of extreme anxiety and it is spilling over, but hopefully it is passing now. I enjoyed both Clay and Ruben last night. I also liked Ricky and Trenyce. And I thought Carmen did way better than Kim C. last night. I agree with whoever said that Josh's heart doesn't seem in it anymore. I can't help wondering how distracted he is by the war. I was disappointed in Kim Locke's song choice. I don't know why, maybe because it was done last season (by Kelly?) and I wanted to hear something different. So I kinda tuned it out and my ambivalence was compounded by the fact that I was very distracted by her dress. I didn't think it was very flattering. I was rather surprised that Simon didn't say something to her because I thought it was pretty equivalent to Vanessa's slip dress that Simon dissed. But that was just my perception. Several people here complimented her on it so it is definitely all in perception. I did enjoy last night's show far more than last week's. I'm glad they addressed the Corey issue and I'm sorry for his fans (like you, Webkitty!) even though I support the decision. |
Denecee | Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 08:54 am     I haven't read above posts but I will. My favorites last night: Rueben, Kim L, Carmen and Ricky. |
Marameko | Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 08:55 am     How does Trenyce hold the microphone ? Like she is going to drop it ??? I have got to pay attention to this. |
Tabbyking | Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 08:55 am     yep, to me, clay sounds exactly the same: hot, wonderful, right on and impressive! other than that, i don't think his song choices are exactly the same! i loved that last note last night! wow!he can bore me anytime! (i'll need to get permission from hermione first, as she has first 'bore' dibs on him!) SIMON seems to be exactly the same each week! LOL |
Webkitty | Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 09:10 am     Skypilot, Simon said last night that Ruben should win it all. Ruben is as far away from Carmen is physical appearance as you can get, so I don't see how he is looking for just a certain "type" He also told Carmen that her song choice was dreadful last week, and the week before that, said Clay was the one to beat, I don't see how this is promoting Carmen over the others. I also don't see what is wrong with Simon saying that he felt Clay did not give his best performance last night, it wasn't his best performance. Clay still has an awesome voice, but he is only human, he can and will have some off nights where he doesn't sparkle for some reason. I am a fan, but I am able to see when he is not on his game and admit it. I can see Clay becoming a huge broadway star, his demenor and voice are perfect for it. I hope he can find his mojo next week, I miss the charisma he had at the start. I have found it easier on myself to just emphisize the positive in who I like and leave it at that, rather than get frustrated that the judges or other posters don't see what I see in a contestant. Life is too short to get worked up over a talent contest. Edited: Carmen is NOTHING like Britney! LOL! Also, I enjoyed Corey while he was on, but I have moved on, no big deal here on my part. Cest le vie (or however you spell it) I'm sure I will be able to find something good about whoever is selected as the Amercian Idol. Peace!  |
Hereiam | Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 09:28 am     I think Simon uses negative comments at times to influence the public in an opposite way. For example - I think he probably thinks Clay is a pretty good singer, but he does the negative comment to get Clay the underdog role. For awhile he had Ruben in that role but it seems they have swapped places. That said there are times that he just tells it like it is (Josh's performance last night). I think it is often hard to tell with Simon. He will also slam someone who is very good if they are not meeting his expectations for them. Say Ruben or Clay -- even on their not so stellar nights they are better than most they are up against (IMO) so he may blast them a bit even when they out shine the others. Just one last thing about all the judges. Can they please find some new lines?!? I am sooooo tired of: Simon -- "sorry" -- I think you are only supposed to say sorry when you mean it. Not, just when you say something others may not like. I never think he really means he is sorry - so stop saying it! Randy -- "dawg, dude ..." -- He used to be a good judge who gave honest critics without ripping someone apart. What happened? Paula -- " " -- She has never been that valuable a judge, but I was amazed when she had some real points to make about Kim's performance last night. Whoever that Paula was bring her back. Ok this by far has to be the longest post I have ever done. Feeling tired now... must rest |
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