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Prisonerno6

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 07:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just tink Simon takes the judging thing very seriously, a lot more seriously than Paula. He and Randy tend to be a lot more honest in their opinions. However, Randy watches the performer while Simon watches the performance, if that makes sense. I noticed that all along -- he wants to see how the performers look on camera, whether the camers catches their performance, not how they look on stage, because it's the TV performacne that will sell the records.

Car54

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 07:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Prisoner, I think you are exactly right.

I respect Randy when he comments on the voices, but Paula, I pretty much ignore. I heard Simon on some interview and he said he goes home and re-watches every show on tape. I think he is very serious about the whole package of who they pick.

Walker

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 07:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i thought all did pretty good tonight..simon really annoyed me with his comment about clay sounding like he was doing a musical..he never said anything like that to clay before tonight..i thought clay did a great job.

Emeraldfire

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 07:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought they all did a good job with the exception of Julia and Corey. I always enjoy Clay, however, I thought Trenyce really did a great job as well.

Not1worry

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 07:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What I thought was interesting was Simon's comment about Carmen. He said she justified his pick. I didn't hear him say she was good or did well. Did anyone, because I'm sure I could have missed it? Some have suggested he didn't really ever want to pick her, something about a Carmen conspiracy. This comment could back that up. His way of saying, "See, I told you she wasn't any good and you should have let me pick so and so." If his pick wasn't really his choice, then saying she justified it could still be true. (I love a good conspiracy) JMHO!!

Emeraldfire

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 07:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Not1worry, I didn't hear about the Carmen conspiracy, do you know what it is about? You're right, I expected more than Simon saying that she justified his pick.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 08:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
AOL poll

27% Joshua
23% Clay
16% Ruben
12% Kimberly C
05% Trenyce
04% Julia
03% Corey
03% Vanessa
02% Charles
02% Carmen
02% Rickey
02% Kimberly L

total voting 294,612.. some shifting.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 08:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So far, I like Kimberly L, and Josh, Charles did nothing for me, Kimberly C. is so polished.. growly voice tho.

Monkeyboy

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 08:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Clay was awesome!!!

I liked Charles, Vanessa and Julia*ducks* :)

Trenyce and Kim C were ok.

Joshua and Kimberly L i didnt like either one of them.

Carmen-OMG I know i shouldnt be so judgemental but i consider her the nikki of this group. She ruined a completly good song. She is cute thouh.

Ruben-Yes his voice is pretty good, but he just annoys me. I dont think he really is as good as everyone is saying he is.

Rickey-ehhh.

oh yea, GO CLAY!

If i forgot anyone else, then i guess i dont like em that much :)

Muse

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 08:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was watching with a friend tonight. She's seen a few episodes, but isn't a regular viewer. Anyway, I made some comment about being disappointed about Ruben wearing another one of his 205 shirts, and she asked (completely seriously, and *not* trying to be mean), "Wait, what's 205? His weight? That can't be it, can it?". Not a logical conclusion, IMO, but it kind of amused me (sorry). :)

I really liked Clay, Ruben, and Trenyce tonight. Probably in that order. I was disappointed in Kimberly L. She wasn't the worst (not at ALL), but I had really high expectations for her. She was just okay.

I think Charles will go tomorrow, simply because he's more forgettable than the rest. I'd love for it to be Corey or Julia instead, but I just don't think Charles has the fan base to stay.

Car54

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 08:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh I hope not. I like Charles a lot and think he has the stuff to grow as he gets some exposure and professional coaching.

I hope there is some backlash against the really bad singers (yodelers) he is not really bad..he just needs seasoning.

I really liked Ricky too even if no one else did.

From the poll above, it looks like the others better hope Joshua gets called up in the next few weeks. I thought he did pretty good myself...he is a little stiff but it was nice to hear him sing something with some rythm to it.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 09:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Julia was better than I expected.. that clip of the awful anthem rendition made it harder to be fair. She looked great. finally got a decent hairstyle. I just don't think she has "it".

Car, the AOL poll is almost never totally in sync with the actual votes, but still some indication.. I'll update in awhile but Clay is creeping up on Josh..

Seamonkey

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 09:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Clay's so cute :)

I think Simon's point is good.. and I think he still loves Clay :)

Vanessa--yay!! (I hope that poll is WAY off on her)

Pamy

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 09:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I loved Clay tonite! It looked like he had fake eyelashes on though. I thought Josh was good too, I think he will get a lot of votes cuz he has a great personality. I was disappointed in Charles, I thought Julia was better than he was but I think Julia's attitude with Simon might hurt her. She didn't even get what Simon was trying to tell her when he said don't take a bow, he meant cuz he skirt was so short and it went right over her head.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 09:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
boo Simon! (ok I'm prejudiced..) (and I LIKE Bette Midler)

Wcv63

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 09:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the line they scripted for Vanessa was a bit of sabotage by AI. Had anyone missed Ryan's explanation (and I'm sure several did since it was right after a commercial break) it would really ruin her chances. That is why Vanessa is the ONLY performer I voted for tonight.

I thought Clay did wonderfully...I just loved his performance and his bio made me a little teary eyed.

Julia Demato-her singing did NOT justify her attitude and she was ready with her little snarky bit before Simon even critiqued her performance.

Did anyone else notice that Kimberly Locke called AI "her show". Wasn't really impressed with her singing tonight although I was all set to be wowed by her.

The 205 shirts hafta go.

I think it's Corey's turn to go. Or Julia.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 09:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just hope for Vanessa to hang on and do better next time. I also think it was sabotage.. in fact, even knowing about the clarification and sitting right here, I missed it

Corey, just doesn't do it for me.. interesting how this hairstyle makes him look much older, wow.. he does sing high, dog.. eh

Pamy

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 09:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Wcv with what you said about Vanessa. I kinda thought it was scripted, I am glad Ryan told people that it was, hopefully everyone heard

Walker

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 09:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
muse..i agree with you about charles..he seems like a really nice guy but he just doesnt leave a big impression atleast not on me and apparently you either..i think he'll be first to go..we'll see.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 09:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Carmen was better than last time and I'd send home other first.. she does have that "catch" in her voice.. very cute outfit but she stood sort of bowlegged, so maybe not the best for her.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 09:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Trenyce.. she sounds great, I just cannot watch her fingers and all the strange contortions with her mouth and not fond of the hat and the funeral home curtain skirt.. I don't have any problem with Joshua, this woman I just wouldn't want to watch, ever. The vocal talent is there tho.

Ruben next.. and last. I'd like to see him dressed differently but I'd venture a guess that he can't just buy off the rack..

Seamonkey

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 09:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ruben seemed kind of labored.. just a bit behing the beat at a few times. Such a nice guy.

Almost time to vote here.. off to watch the family while I do that.
I'll put the poll figures up again later.. pretty much the same but Clay is closer to Joshua now.

Bastable

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 10:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Question to ponder: Did Simon give Clay that "musical theatre" comment because he thinks Clay is gay or because Clay has a much "cleaner" voice than most of the other contestants?

Rabbit

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 10:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Biggest surprise for me was that with 12 performers I expected some really bad performances and an easy out. Didn't happen. The talent is so much better than last year.

Biggest surprises for me were Carmen and Kimberly C. were much better than I was expecting and Kimberely L and Ruebin were not as good as I thought they would be.

Wcv63

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 10:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Simon is trying to be careful with his criticisms so that a backlash doesn't happen. However, I also think he "plants seeds" in order to handicap a performer that he doesn't think has the right image or marketability.

Like I said earlier, that scripted bit with Vanessa....total sabotage. Going against the grain of the other judges with Clay to criticize his "musical" quality. Although I didn't see it in his performance at all this week.

Granted Kimberly Locke didn't do her best this week but the Burger King commercial jab wasn't even within her control. It was directed at the graphics playing behind her. Additionally, his song jab was directed to the "songwriter" and was more in the teasing vein but didn't come off as such on camera.

Corey did a little twirl while singing...does that make him brilliant? No. But he has an image that Simon covets and his voice is just good enough to exploit in pop for a few years but not good enough for him to demand that he be allowed his own "sound" for his album should he win.

Carmen...same thing. The ones with voices and with the image that he can't figure out how to market...what niche they would fill...those are the ones that are disposable regardless of talent.