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Cupcake

Thursday, November 07, 2002 - 10:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I watched The View today. They said that when Aaron was on yesterday Meredith talked to him backstage and said something like, "You're dumping Brooke tonight, aren't you?" She said his reaction was strange and so she knew it was not going to be Brooke leaving. They also claim that one of the women not picked was on MTV TRL show and told someone that Brooke is the winner, not Helene. Just passing on the info. Don't know if it's 100% accurate so please don't get angry at me. That's why I said it was a spoiler.

Minnyace01

Thursday, November 07, 2002 - 10:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Unless something unexpected happens, it's probably just bad information. Reason being-the fines that can be imposed are just to great. She may think that its Brooke, but if Aaron is as honest as he seems to be, it's Helene. After last nights show and reading his diary entry about last nights show, along with him saying in interviews that he knew for a long time who his choice was, it seems pretty obvious-and it's not Brooke.

Calico

Thursday, November 07, 2002 - 10:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That's what the show wants you to think and at the end it will be Brooke, a shocker. They just want to shock you. I bet it's misleading. Helene will not be the winner.

Realbiz

Thursday, November 07, 2002 - 10:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Did anyone know what Brooke is studying at Univ? Maybe she can help Aaron in Banking business if she has similar background and interested in business. But will she relocate? I forgot what she/her family said during the family visit.

Adrian

Thursday, November 07, 2002 - 03:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
In a live radio interview with Valentine 2 weeks ago, Aaron said the winner is the one that he felt love at first sight. Who was that?

Sbw

Thursday, November 07, 2002 - 03:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
On the ABC message board it was posted a long time ago that Brooke had been dating. The
thought there was that Adrienne was the winner since she had quit her job. Obviously that was not true. About Brooke dating... that would seem obvious that she was not his chosen one, but then again who knows.

I thought he had always like Helene the most, but she was too reserved for him in her actions. He said last night that she was opening up to him. That is the reason I think it is Helene.

Mack

Thursday, November 07, 2002 - 03:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well Adrian I thought he meant Gwen so I'm really screwed up! Could it be that the producers played with our minds early on? Aaron made more positive statements about Gwen throughout the series until last night....or at least that's the ones they showed us. Let's face it, if it is Helene then there some missing information on the screening room floor.

Minnyace01

Thursday, November 07, 2002 - 04:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't say that I was that surprised with his choice of Helene. I thought that the body language was there all along, and then, the other ladies just fell by the wayside. But, I agree Mack, that there is some missing footage that we have not had the opportunity to view.

Danzdol

Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 08:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hmmm how about when he had the one on one dates......when he saw Helene, he said "I missed you" and he gave her this hug and facials that you give someone that you are "truly" dating. He seemed so happy to see her for real. With everyone else it seemed like he was sweet but not as genuine. Also, I thought it was so tacky of Brooke (or maybe immature) to say "you'd make a great husband"......if I was a guy I would run away. Not to mention it seemed rehearsed. Even though that is the "theme" of the show (to get him married)I would have never said that to him, it seems too needy and pushy.
I think HElene's strategy is best. Why be all over him from the beginning? It's almost like Trista last year except that she took so long to "open " up that he chose the one that "opnened" everything. Hee hee sorry I couldn't resits that one!

Fruitbat

Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 09:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Mack. They were pushing Gwen. We have seen precious little of his connection with Helene. I guess they are going for the surprize factor.

Oh how they underestimate the internet crowd.

Grooch

Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 09:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
There is no way in heck he will pick Brooke with her having her father in jail. He is from a small midwest town and from a rich family. It will not fly. And he dumped Gwen right after he found out she is divorced.

Theowl

Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 09:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Also, I remember when he met Brookes family and her uncle(?) told him if he hurt her, they would be after him, or something to affect. I don't think they would really hurt him, but I wouldn't want to be in a family like that. I think it's Helene all the way!!

Pandora0404

Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 11:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, he is from Springfield and that is the third largest city in Missouri.

I am hoping it is Brooke since I cannot stand Helene. She seems cold to me and that she is just there to win the game.

Uhoh

Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 09:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
the reason i'm thinking he picks helene, was because last rose ceremony she was the one he was least sure of her feelings.

he knew brooke was crazy about him, and i think also gwen was more open. but with helene...

i'm thinking that's why he needed the extra time to ask each of them how they felt. he wanted to hear from helene, and if she couldn't reassure him, she wouldn't have gotten a rose.

Clp

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 12:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
First Post - have lurked for 2 Big Brothers - LOVE this board!

Brooke was on the "Rick & Bubba" radio show yesterday out of Birmingham, AL. They tried to get her to reveal something but the only time she slipped up it went something like this

R&B "Win or lose, come back on the show the day after the finale, and hey bring Aaron"

BROOKE "Ok, I will ask him when I see him on the 20th"

Why would the loser be with Aaron on the night of the finale. Just my 2 cents, I am a Bama girl and I got a total "I WON" Vibe from Brooke on this show! Who knows, but she is my pick!

Sbw

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 12:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
CLP, welcome. Hmmm.... sounds interesting. Last year, Alex/Amanda and Trista were all on the ABC morning show (whatever it is called), I wonder if she would be seeing him either way or if she did receive the final rose.

Fruitbat

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 02:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whoa. Now that is interesting.

Mack

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 05:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OMG! I might win, I might win!!!! And this coming from a guy that thought carrying packages around in brown trucks was a really dumb idea!

Clp

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 06:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow - two posts in one day, on my first day! I thought ya'll might like to see th pics on Rick & Bubba's website. Brooke looks beautiful! Here is the url, I will try to make a link under it, but as is my first try I may not be successful!
http://www.rickandbubba.com/index-theshow.html

SBW - those were my thoughts about the ABC morning show, but that would be the 21st, right? I can't see her watching the finale with Aaron on the 20th, if he broke her heart! Also, as I have seen on other boards, alot is being made of the direction Aaron is facing in the previews - he gives his break up speech facing the direction in which Helene was shown. Of course they may be taking a cue from MB and Survivor and flipping the shots! Who knows - I just want sweet Bama Brooke to win!

BTW - on our local ABC station, WAAY, Brooke has been doing stories on the 10 o'clock news every Wed. night. Last week they had a local bachelor trying to decide if he wnted to give rose to Brooke OR ..... THE BAMA ROOM!!!! It was quite funny and Brroke's parents were great sports laughing about their WalMart comments!

Fruitbat

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 07:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I found Brookes family offputting and even scary. I do not find her attractive either. That does not make any difference, I am just stating my taste. Her hairdo does not even look good on Gyneth Paltrow and she is not match. Her simpering manner is young and will change but is not appealing for this task.

Egbok

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 08:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Welcome Clp! Thanks for the link - Brooke looked great and she looked happy with whatever the outcome will be for next week. I'm still thinking Aaron will pick Helene, but you never know!! LOL

Dahli

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 09:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm with you Ms Bat.... a hunnerd percent. She creeps me out I'm afraid, amd as such may suit him fine.

Clp

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 09:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
FRUITBAT - I am with you on how Brooke's family seemed on the show! My husband & I are both proud UA grads and were all atwitter about a Bama girl being on the show. HOWEVER, when she and Aaron were in the limo and she mentioned the Bama Room, we looked at each other and said AT THE SAME TIME "Damn, wish she went to Auburn!", as we knew what was coming. When I posted the earlier complimentary things about her parents it was in reference to their appearance on our local ABC affiliate! As far as Brooke being attractive, I think she is too cute, and that haircut ain't Gwyneth - I graduated from Bama 8 years ago and that is the Bama Sorority girl hair - all one length, long, and straight - we all had that hair WAY before Miss Gwyneth!

Fruitbat

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 09:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am talking about that current fad of having the bangs or front piece of hair swept flat across the forehead. That is definately a current trend. Hildi does this too. (TS) Not a good look for even the most beautiful.

And do ya think her family would vote for same sex marriages to be legal!? LOL!!!!!

Clp

Friday, November 15, 2002 - 11:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Fruitbat- LOL! I don't think John David would even know there is such a thing, but if they liked Bama and NASCAR he'd probably be okay with that! But her momma (can't remember her name) would think that would be just fine, can't see her getting too worked up about anything. BTW, when she was on that radio show, all her hair was behind her ear, methinks the tv people had something to do with that because during the interview she specifically mentioned the upsweep hair for the finale was all their doing, ie along the lines of the repeated attempts to hide Gwen's forehead.

Sbw

Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 06:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Mack - those brown trucks are just a temporary fad!

CLP - I don't know if they would watch the show together but I imagine they will all be in the same general area to do their final media sweep. But then again it could be telling the whole story.

Cupcake

Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 01:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As the one who started this thread 9 days ago, I said then that Brooke was the winner. After more time and seeing the previews for the finale I think that information was correct. She would not be my choice, but it's not up to me. :)

Twinkie

Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 02:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
http://www.windowsmedia.com/mg/Entertainment.asp?

See Aaron on some talk show. Don't know which one it is but I just watched the tape and its pretty good.

C1mag

Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 01:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey all... I've been lurking on this topic but thought I'd throw in my two cents based on a comment above...

Someone mentioned that Aaron said that the one he picks is the one he fealt "love at first sight" If that comment is true then it is not Brooke because didn't he say durring the "big dates" with the final three that after being with Helene and Gwen that he just knew who the final two would be, but then after the trip to Hawaii that all changed. Now that doesn't sound like Love at first sight if he was still questioning how he fealt about Brooke. Unless it's another edit job. The one thing I don't like about this show is how the editing is done. They make Helene out to be one big snore. I keep saying she is FAKE but I think it must be the editing. Anyway, I think it's gonna be Helene he picks. There has been mention made that he has said that he isn't married yet and for some reason I could see Brooke and her family with a shotgun holding him to a proposal. Helene would be easier to dump :) it's just a thought.

Hermione69

Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 01:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1, didn't you post at BB a lot? Your handle sounds familiar! Glad to have you. I just tried to quit the boards, but they sucked me back in. I think I made it all of 3 days. Maybe 4. LOL! "My name is Hermione and I am a message boards addict."

I really think he will pick Helene, but when he is with Brooke, he seems very physically attracted to her. I heard a spoiler, though, that Brooke is actively dating again. I think someone else also posted that above. I also agree that he is more likely to have been in "love at first sight" with Helene. But again, editing can make you think anything. Did anyone notice after the live show last week with the "rejects" that the editing at the end, showing montages of Brooke and Helene throughout the process, heavily suggested a Brooke win? Which, of course, made me think it is Helene! The clips they picked just seemed to show the sparkly side of Brooke, while showing Helene's shrewish side. Of course, that was just my perception.

I really wanted it to be Gwen, more so after seeing her last week. Right now I honestly don't care who he picks because I don't see it lasting with either of them, at least not based on the sides of themselves that came out during the show. But that's not exactly the best predictor for relationship longevity, is it now?!!

C1mag

Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 06:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hey hermione!! Yes I post here all the time but haven't on this topic. :) I have a little trouble with this particular show. It's a bad accident for me. I swear I'm never gonna watch even though I'm a reality tv addict but low and behold this one just sucks me in. I couldn't help add my useless two cents on who I think he is gonna pick since it's almost over.

C1mag

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 11:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok here's a thought... What if he proposes to Helene and she turns him down? Now that would be too funny. So much for that love at first sight crap! Either way I still thinks it's gonna be Helene. It shoulda been Gween, but then again this whole thing is a joke so I'll just sit back and watch the wreck happen in slow motion :)

Lauram

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 11:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I watched the end of The View today and their teaser for tomorrows show said... "tune in tomorrow when we will have on the Bachelor and his bride to be"... now they have to make programming schedules and so they know if he will be on alone or with someone, and I doub't she would come on the show if she turned him down. And, they wouldn't promote someone as a bride-to-be if they didn't know so. They could have simply said with tonights intended, or ... many other things. I think this was a big ooops!!