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Crossfire

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 02:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, thanks for all the info peoples. :)

So if it was part of the chorus, then it is probably a genuine flub, and probably not a part that would have been added last minute then?

Either way, it's not something that is a big deal to me, but I am just trying to establish if the criticism is valid. If they handed out an apology, then maybe they feel at fault? I am not sure how to take the whole event yet.

Sounds like a good interview question for the future.

Wcv63

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 04:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There was a detailed analysis that I can no longer find (on another board) regarding an engineering problem with the splice not being correctly placed within the song. There has been much conjecture that the splicing error threw off Clay's timing to such an extent that he missed the words leading up to the verse that was added. Additionally, I'd like to remind everyone that he was not able to rehearse with the new backing tape even once before hitting the stage.

All in all, makes me quite proud of him.

Crossfire

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 04:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Heh, is this a quiz?

Pantageas

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 05:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Heh heh! Was the splicing technician set up on the grassy knoll? :)

Wcv63

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 08:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
:) Doubtful Pantageas. It was probably an honest mistake made while rushing to change the backing tape at the last minute.

A musician sat and listened note for note and found what he determined to be a "mathematical error" in the way the tapes were spliced.

As I am not a musician I can not say how accurate his analysis is but it sure did sound like he knew what he was talking about. Perhaps someone with the expertise can listen to the recording and let us know if that analysis is indeed correct.

Crossfire...don't worry. Vote for Clay and I'll give you an "A".

Crossfire

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 08:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh would you look at that. Cheater. Heh heh.

As a Canadian, I'll have to see if I can't bribe someone to put in the vote for me. :)

Rabbit

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 08:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hmmm Hmmm La La La La <oh excuse me ... I always hummm while I'm cleaning my 2 landline phones and 2 cell phones ...>

(Rule of Aquisition #97: Enough ... is never enough)

Crossfire

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 08:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hehehe, sounds like my people need to get in touch with your people to work out terms.

Oh!...wait hehehe:

(Rule of Aquisition #3: Never pay more for an acquisition than you have to.)

Still looking around.

Ginger1218

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 08:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Crossfire, you know how much I love you right? But lately, you are looking for a beating LOL. I think you are bored. Trying to stir everyone up. LOL

Crossfire

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 08:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What'd I do? What'd I do?

Abby7

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 12:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Crossfire: I've always wondered how people put "that line" through a word/sentence. Is it hard? If so, don't bother explaining because I have trouble with "links".

So is it hard to do? I tried doing it once but just ended up with black felt marks all over my monitor!

Crossfire

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 12:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi Abby7, I think it is pretty easy. It is known as a strikethrough.

The command looks like this:

\strike{somewords}

(Hehehe, just don't ask me how I made that show up without having it turn into a struck word. Below is what the example above does if you type it exactly as it appears.)

somewords

Sadiesmom

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 04:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Clay on Vincent

Texannie

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 05:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Interesting interview. I still think they did Clay a great disservice by not letting the voting public know that, and have to wonder why.....

Hobbs

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 05:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Crossfire, check out the link Sadiesmom left. There is a video interview on that site that shows the actual flub while Clay explains it. Thanks Sadiesmom.

The Idol-makers must be allowing Clay to comment on all this. I'm sure that they have guaranteed him something to keep him from complaining (or even suing). But they will never silence the boards!

Crossfire

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 06:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Having a hard time finding it. Seems like I am getting Clay on his hair.

Kitt

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 02:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Could anyone give me the gist of what Clay said in that video clip? I couldn't get it to play. Thanks.

Sadiesmom

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 02:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I will post another link to all clips tonight. Must work

Kitt

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 02:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks :).

Iscreamer1

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 04:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the gist of what Clay was saying is he knew the words but they weren't fitting with the music so he paused till the two synced up again. He said he was singing the words in his head waiting for the time he could start to sing them again. He also commented on thinking the judges were going to rip him up for that and he agreed it wasn't his best performance.

Thanks for posting the link

Djgirl5235

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 05:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank you Iscreamer1... I couldn't get the clip to play either - I could get the others, but not that clip... weird...

Crossfire

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 05:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hhmph. At least you guys found it. :)

Djgirl5235

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 05:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cross, it's Sadiesmom's post at 4:35am just about two pageup's from your last post... :) (BTW, can I just say that tonight's tv schedule SUCKS!!!)

Sadiesmom

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 05:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I posted the link to all the Clay videos in the Clay thread, it seemed like it belonged there.

Sadiesmom

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 05:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That theory of the words not fitting with the music goes with the missplice in the instrumental tape talk that I heard the other day.