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Wcv63

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 09:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ya'll, I've found if you keep practicing graciousness gets easier and easier. I'm not quite past the pouting phase but I'm getting there.

Tabbyking

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 09:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i am waiting for someone to compare clay to a current entertainer. i don't think there is a 'clay'-type out there right now, so i was especially hoping for him to win.

Faerygdds

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 09:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The only current entertainers that I can think of to compare to Clay are all on Broadway or other musical venues. Most you might not have heard of. His voice reminds me a lot of Brent Carver's from "Parade". (and I'll bet no one knows who that is. :))I love musicals, so I loved his voice.

And just to clarify.. I didn't/wouldn't compare him to Manilow... that was just Kelly's comparison. I'll think on it tonight and post tomorrow if I think of a recent popular entertainer with a similar voice.

Magikearth

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 09:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with a statement made earlier-Clay is a winner already,with or without the title.
There's absolutely no question that our boy ain't going anywhere!! I'm looking forward to hearing from him real soon! Can't wait for his CD to come out! I'm also hoping the final three record together at some point.
He has soooo many things going for him..his family,friends and students must be so proud.What a great guy.
We love ya,Clay! Gracious and Hot at the same time!!! :Sighs:
<Taking another hit of ice water!>

Marymc

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 09:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
clay could sing his grocery list and i'll be first in line to buy it.

WE LOVE YOU CLAY! YOU"LL ALWAYS BE OUR #1!!!!

Fabnsab

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 10:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Clay sure was a class act tonight.

Hey, did anyone find out why Josh wasn't there? It seems odd that he wasn't even mentioned.

Also, does Simon work for Clive Davis and RCA? I thought he signed the people but it seems it's Clive. Anyone have any insight on this?

Gadzooks

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 10:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
O.K. America.....Clay didn't win the title due to some idiotic voting schemes. When his CD comes out we must all unite and buy it. I wish he could record the entire Solitaire single and release it right away. I'd buy it in a snap.

Love you Clay.......you'll always be #1.

Nanarobin

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 10:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I had to sign off for a while after I read that Clay lost the Idol competition....I was so upset! Then I called my neice to tell her to be happy..she was watching the show and got ticked at me for spoiling the outcome...well, I really didn't, I talked to her husband and he told her. She is a huge Ruben supporter.

While time may heal the deep wound in my heart for Clay's loss tonight....I will get over it...I will get over it...{keep repeating it, Robin}

I came back online here to find that I am not alone in my grief! In the meantime, I also got an email from a soap opera pal of mine...who I found out tonight lives in Raleigh and is a huge Clay-mate, although neither of was aware of our similarity!
She was even having a Clay party tonight!!

Imagine my surprise..all I can say is...great minds, same path.

Well...thanks for being with me during the shows and thanks for all the spoiler/info postings. I have enjoyed the company and fun...even the spats and including getting MOD-ed today for comments about beach movie for Clay/Ruben!! "I WAS FRAMED BY ANOTHER TVCH-er"...."I WAS LED ON!!"

Any way...thanks for the fun..the rants, etc...
I guess now I can rest up for BB...I love that show...not sure I am ever gonna get caught up in IDOL-madness again, though....too mentally painful for ole (not old) woman..

Heck, I was looking forward to doing my victory dance--shaking my tail feathers and flapping my wings--tonight for Clay winning...and I wanted another pat on the head from Hermione...drat!!!

Ok...time to stop ranting...for now!!!?? maybe??

Nana Robin {{ goes back in mourning mode }}

Nanarobin

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 10:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
GADZOOKS...hope you look above in the Clay threads...I found and postd some links to the mp3 versions of his performances. You can download or burn to a cd now...good luck...

Been playing his songs all day here!!!

Readonly

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 05:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I had no idea I'd feel so sad and take it so personally if Clay didn't win. I know he has many good things ahead of him, whether he decides to pursue his music career or goes back to teaching (there aren't enough good teachers out there). Good luck Clay.

Max

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 06:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fabnsab, Josh has returned to active duty at Camp Pendelton. That's why he couldn't be there. I'm not sure what he's going to do for the tour. Maybe he's getting a special leave for the 50+ days or something. :)

Dreamweaver

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 06:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Clay you are a winner in my book. Best of luck for the bright future you have coming. You are my choice for the American Idol.

Cassie

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 07:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Clay, I don't care what they say--you're the winner! In THREE hours, I managed to get in ONE vote for you. That has to tell you something! Good luck to you in the future.

Peepinagain

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 07:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm disappointed too but he only lost a 'title'. He's got a record deal, which was the whole point of the show. I'd also bet he'll be showing up on Broadway in the not too distant future.

Foliage

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 07:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know where to put this but though you Claymates would get a chuckle. My sister in law is listed in the Raleigh, NC area phone book as C. A****, her name is similar to Aiken, but not the same. Anyway, her phone started ringing as she watched AI last night and wouldn't stop. Folks were calling for Clay! Since my brother wasn't there to "play Clay" she let the machine pick up for a while. Kind fans were expressing heartfelt if misdirected condolences to Clay for his loss. She had to take the phone off the hook after a while. tee hee

Walker

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 07:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
well im still very disappointed also, i don't feel that the right person won and i'm sure there is a
reason for that which i won't bother to mention because it won't change anything anyway..we all know who the true winner is.

Jenhavins

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 07:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am sad that Clay didn't win, however, I am happy that two wonderful people were in the final. At least Ruben is a gracious and talented person. Clay will have a lot of success in life.

Sadiesmom

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 08:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
On another board, there are people trying to raise money to buy Clay's contract. Hmm wonder what these women want to do with him?

Readonly

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 08:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Though I'm sad over Clay's loss, I consider myself the winner. I've got tickets to the AI concert in our area and I pre-purchased Clay's single CD. Life is good!!!

Cupcake

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 08:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have been a Ruben supporter since day one, but Clay deserves congratulations for his fine performances throughout the competition. Coming in second in a contest that started with 70,000 hopefuls is a wonderful accomplishment. I am sure
he is going to have a great career.

Good luck to both talented young men!

Ladytex

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 08:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Good Luck, Clay! You have a bright future before you!

Realfan

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 08:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I feel much better this morning. I think I'll share my emotional rollercoaster with you guys, as cathartic therapy for me.

About 15 minutes were left in the show, and I realized how tense I was. I mean, REALLY tense! Surprising, for me. I'm not usually that involved in AI!

But a feeling had been building all evening while watching that Ruben would win.

When it happened, I tried so say, "Oh, well, the recording contract is what matters, and Clay has millions of fans." Still, I went to bed upset, feeling that there was a conspiracy afoot. I don't really think that, but I do feel the judges have played favorites for weeks.

Things that annoyed me: The lack of available phone lines, apparently with different capacities depending on geographical location; the fact Ryan Seacrest interviewed "stars" who picked Ruben but not Clay; the fact the mini-bio featurette showed the guest judges raving about Ruben but not Clay, when we all know Robin Gibb loved him and Neil Sedaka wanted to offer him a recording contract right then; and the judges themselves, who have been pushing for a Ruben win for ages and never had a harsh word for him, despite scratchy, pitchy performances. Whereas Simon still called one of Clay's performances "Broadway"--as if it's an terrible thing. And Randy insulted Clay's "original" song, saying he hated it (I loved it) and he hoped it wasn't on his CD, when it's already on his CD!

The whole bias thing angers me. Not Ruben himself--he is a darling teddybear of a man, and an early favorite of mine. But I am annoyed that Ruben sounded awful in his post-win song, that Kim and Clay both outsang him last night, but Ruben still won. Seriously, Kim knocked my socks off last night, and of course Clay always does. Clay has amazing stage presence and didn't appear nervous in the least; Ruben looked terrified all night, and sweated up a storm (I hope they can manage that in his on-stage performances. He made me feel so uncomfortable watching him!). I wanted to hear Ruben hold a sustained note on pitch like Clay does, instead of taking the up-and-down-the-scale approach. I want to feel his power in my bones, and I haven't felt that for weeks now. He peaked early, and has faded over the past few weeks, but you wouldn't know it from the judges' comments. Also, being a performer is much more than the song--it's interacting with the audience. Ruben has a ton to learn in this regard, whereas Clay really came into his own, bonding with the audience and the viewers.

The suspicious side of my nature feels the powers that be had a white female winner last year, and this year wanted a black male, and did what was in their power without violating rules to ensure that win.

Then I talk myself out of it, and decide I'm being silly. I remind myself that Clay has a recording contract and I will be first in line to buy his album when it comes out.

Then I get petty, and part of me wants Clay to outsell Ruben (the RCA exec sure wanted that "war" to take place--talk about boosting sales!), just to show "them" (the powers and judges, not Ruben himself) who really won.

But it doesn't matter in the long run. I bet in 10 years, when Clay and Ruben are both big stars in their respective fields of music, this will be a trivia question on a game show, which of them won. That's how little it will matter in the long run. Or so I almost have myself convinced.

Walker

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 08:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
does anyone else think it's kind of odd that clays and rubens cds are being released at the same time? could say something about wether this thing was done fair or not.

Crossfire

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 08:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Perhaps it indicates that they were prepared for either of them to win, and given the vote, that was prudent.

Muse

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 08:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Neil Sedaka was just on CNN. He had very nice things to say about both Ruben and Clay, and acknowledged that he wanted Clay to win. And he said again that Clay would be recording "Solitaire" for his album, and that he hopes that Ruben does "Breaking Up is Hard to Do". He said before Clay originally performed "Solitaire" on the show, he called Neil and asked him a lot of questions about the song -- the meaning, advice for what he should wear, etc. Neil loved that both Clay and Ruben seem to really want to get into the heart of their songs like that.