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TV ClubHouse: Archive: The Bachelor / Bachelorette: The Bachelor II: Tonight's Show-- October 23rd: Archive through October 23, 2002

Hermione69

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 05:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay now, Heather is taking on Christi's role. Run, Aaron, run!

Hermione69

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 06:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
3 individual dates and one group date with the remaining girls. Individual dates were determined by personality test BEFORE the show. Some of the girls were a bit miffed at that (Heather). Heather got the first one and Gwen is now on the 2nd. Heather's was a luxury massage with Aaron and she tried really hard to seduce him. She said she wants him to do away with the remaining rose ceremonies and pick her now. She said there is so much chemistry. Meanwhile, Aaron confessed that he doesn't feel it.

Gwen's is a Cinderella date. It's pretty amazing. Aaron is more into Gwen than Heather.

Group date: Hayley, Angela and Brooke. Angela and Hayley both are pretty bummed. They are all going sailing and they both get motion sickness!

Hermione69

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 06:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Helene's date. She gets to cook for him. They watched a slide show of her growing up. Helene is coming across kind of pouty tonight to me and I am not sure why. She continues to keep threatening to leave the show and its getting old. Aaron really seems to like her. They are kissing in the hot tub.

Fruitbat

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 06:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gwenneth Paltrow has done a disservice with that hair do Brooke sports. The wide side part, sweeping across the forehead does not even look good on Gwen or Hildi, on Brooke........it just doesn't work at all. Not a good trend.

Hermione69

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 06:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Brooke has been nothing but cute so far this show. If I had to guess right now (and I am guessing right now) I would say the majority is right and it will be Heather and Hayley that go. Hayley doesn't seem to be able to open up to him at all. Heather is way too intense. She talked about picket fences and children and Aaron being a soccer coach for the kids.

Aaron said he doesn't want to lead them on.

He is talking to them all one on one outside.

Fruitbat

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 06:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, Heather, but I think Helene is toast too.

Hermione69

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 06:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
(Hi Fruitbat! Are you East Coast also?)

Aaron just said that Helene is always coming at him with something and after talking to her, he feels battered and bruised! I really don't know who he will pick. The only one he practically promised a rose to is Brooke. Quick, Fruitbat! WHo do you think will be going home?

Hermione69

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 06:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You read my mind, Fruitbat! You answered my question while I posting this! Too Funny! I made those picks before he made that comment about Helene. I dunno, folks. Looks like Helene and Heather now!

Fruitbat

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 06:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Angela is a contender and just may be up with Gwen for the ring.

I do not like Brooke. Nope. I do not. The southern accent grates and there are many southern accents I adore, hers grates......BIG TIME.

Hermione69

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 06:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Aaron said he hopes to ask one to marry him so this is a very important decision.

Video messages... yada yada yada.... no one really stood out except Heather wants to wear her naughty red dress for him.

Prisonerno6

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 06:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just can't understand the women on this show, at least the ones who are talking about how "the bachelor" is their true love. The environment is completely artificial, the timeframe too short for really finding out what he's like, and the whole concept kind of creepy. Listening to Heather, a 30-year-old who should know better, just made my skin crawl. But I still watch the show -- it's like slowing down to look at a car wreck. You know you shouldn't, but you just can't help it!

Hermione69

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 06:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Once again they are claiming it is the most dramatic rose ceremony yet....

(commercial)

(I have hijacked this thread tonight folks, thanks for humoring me)

Fruitbat, I like Brooke okay, but I think she is very young and actually tries to act "little girl cute" and while she IS young, she is too old for that.

Who is your favorite?

Hermione69

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 06:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And the roses go to.....

Helene
(suspenseful music continues)
Gwen
(suspenseful music continues)
Angela
(suspenseful music continues)
Brooke

Hermione69

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 06:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Heather and Hayley both feeling like something is wrong with them, but Hayley at least recognizes that part of it was her inability to open up to him sooner, while Heather is taking it very personally and feeling like it was something she did or said.

Prisoner, I agree completely. Heather went a little overboard with the script she wrote.

Anyone catch the previews? Brooke's family seems scary!! And I am done for the night. Peace out.

Weenerlobo

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 06:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Welp Heather and Hayley are history - I knew Aaron wasn't in to Heather, he wouldn't look at her. He wouldn't look at Christi either. The girls that Aaron's into get eye-to-eye action.

Looks like it's Meet the Parents next week!

Prisonerno6

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 06:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Does anyone know what Brooke's father is in prison for?

Jag2000

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 07:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Brooke had said that she does not know what her
father is in prison for and does not want to know.
She told Heather this last week. At the end of
tonight's show she did tell Aaron privately that
if he is going to meet her family that he needs to
know that her father is in prison and he said that
it really did not matter or change things. I be-
lieve that it will have a negative effect on how
he feels towards her. JMHO

Fruitbat

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 07:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am going to assume drugs uless I hear otherwise. He comment about him making bad decisions and mistakes does not infer murder or rape.

Brooke is on my last nerve. I do not like any of them, really. Angela is the only one that I am drawn to. Get rid of Brooke is all I can yell at the moment. Her hair do is beyond hideous. Superficial, you say?.......well this show brings out the beast in me.

Gwen may be OK, hard to tell. Her hair is so impossibly thin that I cannot help but focus on that. Shallow, I admit, but he will have to listen to her consternation about that until the end of time. Trust me, I cut hair for many years. Putter will agree.

Becca

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 08:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Why should Brooke's Dad affect Brooke. I think that would be silly. If anything it might prove her to be stronger than she is. Her Dad's choices have nothing to do with her. I would hope Aaron wouldn't be shallow enough to allow something like that to affect his decision

Bac2fan

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 08:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You guys are a crack up! Last week ya'll had me rollin' about Gwen's hair-do. It was hideous, I must say. Fruitbat is right about it being way too thin. It looks very stringy and even the experts couldn't do much with it. I bet it not a pretty site in the morning! I don't see what you guys see in Brooke's hair but I taped the show and now will have to rewatch it just to see what you are talking about.

I liked Heather at first. I thought she was so sweet to Brooke telling her that she would walk her down the aisle. But on this episode she went Christi on us. Good grief, it was so obvious that Aaron was not "into" her. I think he is trying to be honest with these girls and not lead them on which is very good in one respect. On the other hand, he really isn't opening up that much. We don't really know who he is, we just know what he does. Last year's bachelor was more fun to watch because he talked more about himself and what he liked.

Angela seems very mature and I like that she is not at all catty but she is kind of mousey. Pun intended. Hopefully she and Aaron will get some one on one time and he'll get to know more about her and so will we.

Brooke does not get on my nerves as bad as she does the rest of you. I think she is sweet but all the cryin' is really getting on my nerves. She is very young and I agree with you that she is immature. But I live in Alabama too so I have a soft spot for her.

I just don't like Helene and haven't since day one. Talk about the accent getting on your nerves, hers rubs me the wrong way big time. She reminds me of Shannon. It just seems that over all everyone was more interesting last year but I am still totally hooked and throughly enjoy watching this show.

This is my first time here and I think this is a little long so I'll wrap it up. I have NO idea who will win but for some crazy reason, I am going to guess Angela?? Seems like of dumb to even me as I type this because there really hasn't been any chemistry between them but it is just a gut feeling. Time will tell.

Llkoolaid

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 08:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Brooke's Dad will weigh heavily with Aaron, he is a straight laced banker, who seems to be impressed by open honest people. He doesn't like when the girls get catty with each other and he doesn't like the ones that are too clingy. These things in his personality tell me that he values honesty a lot and I think subconsciencously(sp) that Brooke's secret about her dad will hurt her. I know it seems shallow but I think it will be constantly in the back of his mind.

Muse

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 08:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think Brooke's dad being in prison will really influence how Aaron sees her. She seems like a very sweet and open/honest person, so it's pretty obvious that her father's criminal activities haven't really rubbed off. Plus I think Aaron had an idea of what Brooke's secret might be (how could he not? She hinted at it pretty strongly), and he still kept giving her a rose.

That being said, I sort of understand why Heather thought Brooke's age was a big deal. Brooke seems a little childish. Not in a bad way, really, but she's just very young and naive. I think Aaron sort of likes feeling like a protector and someone who can help take care of her. But I don't know if he'd want to base an entire relationship on something like that.

I like Helene being so upfront and honest, but I did think she went a little overboard with the questions. I'm starting to wonder if she pushes it just because she knows that he likes how she challenges him and how she seems "real". She needs to lay off just a *teeny* bit, IMO.

Gwen seems nice but boring. I'm distracted by her hair, too. I didn't think that she and Aaron really had that strong of a spark/connection in their "Cinderella date". I could be wrong, though, since Aaron seems to really like her.

I like Angela a lot, although we haven't seen a lot of her yet. And I might have liked Hayley, since I really liked how she dealt with not getting a rose. She didn't take it personally, she understood the reason why, she wasn't devastated. Very mature of her. It was nice to see someone who admits to finding the whole idea of dating someone who is dating many other people (on camera, no less!) a little strange, and isn't entirely comfortable with it. We know she wasn't there just for the cameras.

I think Heather's competitive streak got the best of her. I don't think she was so upset about losing Aaron as she was about losing to someone else (or several people, I guess). She saw it as a competition. I don't think her feelings for Aaron were nearly as strong as she claimed, although she might have convinced herself they were at the time.

Fruitbat

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 08:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, Gwen. Blunt cut to 2 inches below the chin, ends tapered to tip up in the back, slightly longer in the front with some texture on the bottom. Distinct full bangs straight down, none of this brushed to the side shit.....colored platinium blonde, deep russet red lips, smokey gray eye shadow with lids lightly linned with charcoal gray and subtle pink blush. I did this work for years. I am dead on on this one.

I am screaming to do this. She needs a stylist.

Fruitbat

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 08:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh and Brookes father.........get over it Brooke, it is all about him and not you. Stop being dramatic.

Seeeeeeeee? I really do belong at SS.

Fruitbat

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 08:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OF COURSE Brookes dad has nothing to do with her!! I doubt Aaron would even go there. He is beyond that nonsense. She is setting that up and it is just too dramatic and manipulative for my liking. She is waaaaaaaaaaay too young for him. She will grow into a fine woman but it will take a little more time.