Archive through February 05, 2003
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Archive through February 05, 2003
Muse | Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 10:36 pm     Mygetaway, I generally avoid busy signals if I call sometime during the second hour phone lines are open. They're usually busy earlier on (well, for the more popular contestants, at least ), but I don't have any problem if I wait. But maybe it varies depending on where you live... |
Mygetaway | Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 10:48 pm     I think they had the lines blocked until almost the end of the show. After Julie started singing I got through. Thanks Muse for the heads up though.. |
Fabnsab | Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 12:36 am     Well, I am in the minority and LIKED Charles and his hat. I give credit to the kid for proving Simon's initial impression wrong. Kimberly and Julia are equally catty to me but the ONE difference- Kim has the support of her peers, Julia does not. Kim is always around the others, in the mix. Julia seems too concerned with herself-and that sister doesn't help. I think Julias new hair makes her look younger. She looked like a hag before. I think back to last week and wonder why she didn't just join them at dinner and why she didn't go to their room in an hour like they said they would meet up. She created that situation. A strong person makes the situation better, not sit around and pity yourself. Bettis was a fave of mine but he sounded like he belonged in a Carnival cruise show tonight. His hair looked downright dirty too. JD sounded like he was in a school play, very amateurish. I am with Hummingbird- Patric sounded like a woman in his song. The dad coming out makes good tv but it lessens the strength I see in the son. These are grown people, let them fight their own battles. I think Kim will go on but I don't know about her range. Meosha is a sweetheart, I think. She is pretty and has a nice voice. I do think she gets nervous. I wish I could vote but I tape the shows and watch them late. If I were to vote though it would Be Meosha and Charles. |
Car54 | Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 03:15 am     Fab, we like Charles, just not his hat(s). I think it is hard for the little scrawny guys to get an "Idol" look going. Ladytex, thanks for the explanation...it made total sense. I fell asleep not long after the show, so I missed voting. I was not that excited about anyone anyway. |
Kizz | Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 04:01 am     Mygetaway, the phone lines don't open until the show is completely over...I guess so the early performers don't have an advantage. And I also had no problem in the second hour, only a few busy signals. |
Djgirl5235 | Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 04:56 am     Hermione.........I'm SOOOOO Sorry!!! My bf forgot to bring the laptop home, but I don't want to vote for any of them anyway! Every single one of them bothered me last night! Let me break it down one by one...I've been DYING to get here to talk about it: Kimberly: DO NOT LIKE HER... Her attitude stinks, and she really annoys me for some reason. I wasn't really impressed with her rendition of Come to My Window - and don't think it's because of the piano, that's one thing I'm really impressed with this year - I was sick of the canned music in the background. Singing live with live accompaniament (sp)is a true test of a performer! I was rather bored with her performance, truth be told Patrick: I was SOOOO rooting for this man, however, his song choice really sunk that for me. I don't like gender-bender songs, and will rarely sing a man's song myself (unless it's the Barenaked Ladies) I however, liked his outfit. His father bugged me as well! JD: This boy has to control his nerves! Every single held note was flat to begin with, then he would get control and bring it back into key. I was terribly unimpressed by his performance last night, and would be really disappointed if he returns, simply because he's missing the train on this one... Trenyce: I actually liked her. It was a terrible song, but she did a good job, and to pull off the enthusiasm and stage presence she did with only 4 people in the room was very, very good! If I had to vote (and if I could) she would get my vote. Meosha: Okay - no phrasing, no breath control, no projection, lack of range, shall I go on? No I think not Bettis: No phrasing, no breath control, needs to relax and enjoy the performance rather than think about dance moves to accompany the song Charles: OH THE OUTFIT!!! His voice was wonderful, although I am SOOOOOOO sick of the vocal gymnastics that are so prevalent in this competition, in my opinion they ruin a song and are truly unnecessary, but he did a good job with a difficult song, Kudos! Julia: I wasn't terribly impressed with her performance. It is a difficult song to perform, and she did okay with it, but not the best of the night. I really hope that the whole drama btwn she and Kim would just go away - and by the look on both their faces, so do they. I think she'll definitely be a judges choice as well. Allright... I guess I'm a little opinionated, aren't I? Someone can tell me to shut it now! I'm truly looking forward to next week, as I really didn't like anyone coming into this show last night, but am definitely looking forward to quite a few that are ahead: Clay, Kimberly, Frenchie, Ruben... There are my four picks..... Lord I love this show!!! Hermione - I will definitely remind my bf next Tuesday to bring home the laptop, and then I can play along with everyone else!!!! (Man we need a computer at home!) |
Adven | Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 05:11 am     Being a curmudgeon - and damn proud of it - I didn't like any of them. I was pulling for Julia at first, for no other reason than that she is well-endowed. Unfortunately, I made a snap judgement that she is a Kelly Clarkson wannabe who lacks the sincerity and talent to pull it off and I now refuse to change my mind. As for Kim, she reminds me of the rich b@tch ice queen in a lot of those teen movies who has everything going for her. I suspect that if she continues on, her nasty side will be come more and more apparent. If it doesn't, I will still refuse to change my mind. As for the rest, they had first names that are odd and hard to pronouce, so I switched over to Fear Factor to watch women with alarmingly large breasts dip their hands into a tank of electric eels for money. |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 05:46 am     DJ, we had almost identical reactions to people and I love that because I know you are vocally trained! It makes me trust my own reactions better. I second guess myself a lot in this type of thing for obvious reasons. (We really do share the same mind, don't we?) Adven, curmudgeons opinions are welcome here. I loved reading your post! I agree with you on Kim. Something about her seems terribly, terribly fake to me. Julia strikes me as no better. |
Djgirl5235 | Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 05:52 am     Hermione - I was thinking the same thing - I guess we do share the same mind! Being trained in this field makes it very hard for me to really truly enjoy the show - and my comments would be even harsher than Simon's - at least they are in the comfort of my own home! As an aside, I will never forget being a judge for a contest at a local bar, and sitting there, trying so hard to keep my face neutral as this tiny little 19 year old girl got up and sang Angel by Sarah McLachlan (most of you would know by now that Sarah is my idol, and Angel is one of my favourite songs to perform and listen to)... Well, this little girl started the song, and my head whipped up so fast from the paper I was writing notes on, and most people thought that I must have loved her performance...I would had it not been completely out of tune, off tempo, and utterly horrendous. I hung my head so low to the table so that she couldn't see the absolute horror on my face! My only comment was that at least she had the gonads to get up and perform in front of people. I could not even speak about the song, that's how horrified I was. I love AI though, even though for my bf it's a trying experience to watch it with me! |
Essence | Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 06:05 am     I agree with whoever said the winner is probably not in this group. I thought Kimberly was just OK. Nothing special or great, but she did well. I liked the song Patrick did and I like Patrick (and his suit). I just didn't like them together. I thought JD was a bit flat. Trenyce did fine with her song. One of the better performances of last night. If I had been home to vote she may have gotten a few from me. I didn't care for Meosha. I liked the song and I think she has a pretty voice...but not American Idol. (Loved the hat.) Bettis was just painful to listen to. He completely destroyed a Boyz II Men song (and I am a big fan of theirs). I ended up fast forwarding through him (and it seemed like he was on a long time.) From what I got from the judges, the song never got any better. What a shame. I thought Charles did a good job with his song. I love Stevie Wonder. I saw nothing wrong with the hat, and am not understanding the problem of hats. (If I recall, Kelly Clarkson wore a hat when she sang during the top 10 competition...it wasn't an issue then.) I agree with the judges that Julia was just OK. Personally, I hope neither her nor Kimberly makes it, but they probably both will. |
Webkitty | Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 06:14 am     I had no problem getting through to vote last night. I tried all the numbers and not one was busy. Last year, there would be a fast busy almost the whole two hours. They must have upgraded their phone system to handle the calls this year. The Kim/Julia thing. I watched the tape from last week again, and I didn't see one shred of evidence that Kim was being catty or difficult.I did see plenty of evidence that Julia was creating a problem when there wasn't one. Her sister, on the other hand, was downright nasty, and stuck her nose in where it didn't belong. The supposed grudge match that these two have is all in Julia's mind. Kim's attitude last night was stellar and on the moment, Julia still seemed to be reliving imaginary slights. Their singing talent is about equal to me. I am looking forward to seeing the other Kim perform. (the one that sang with Frenchie) |
Djgirl5235 | Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 06:15 am     Essence - I don't have a problem per se with hats, just the ones that I saw last night, and as a matter of fact - it was Charles' whole outfit that bothered me, but a lot of that had to do with the fact that he reminded me of my ex-boyfriend in that outfit.... |
Brenda1966 | Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 06:24 am     I agree with Seamonkey that Ryan is easier to take this year without his sidekick. He's not all that annoying! Last night's performances were okay, no one blew me away and no one was completely awful. Bettis was the worst. Best? Probably Charles. I voted for him a few times. I'm surprised so many here have liked Kim. I didn't, but maybe my opinion of her singing is colored by my distaste for her behavior. I was hoping to see some great performances by JD and Julia. Oh well! I threw some votes JD's way because he's cute, but never encountered a busy signal so that's a bad sign for him. I think Julia will advance and possibly Charles. But I'm sure I'll be surprised! |
Jenhavins | Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 06:24 am     I am also thinking that the stars of this show are yet to come. I am looking forward to Clay Aiken, Frenchie and the other Kim (Locke I believe). So far these are my favorites. Clay just blew me away when he opened his mouth during auditions. |
Essence | Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 06:32 am     Djgirl...I can understand not liking a particular hat (everyone's taste is bound to be different, and I can appreciate that.) I thought people had a problem with hats in general, that's why I was questioning. |
Conejo | Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 06:37 am     I don't think any of the performances last night were worthy of being named American Idol! Get rid of those d@mn HATS and the Parents/Family members NOW!!!!!!!! Ryan is MUCH better without that Dunkel@ss Dorf. That Blonde Bimbo really irratated me - after every performance she was backstage cheering everyone on - yea right! like she could give a rats @ss is any of them could carry a tune. Bettis, OMG that performance really stunk. Lose all of the contestants with initials as names - it irritated me last year and it irritates me this year (RJ DJ AJ BJ MJ on and on and on)! I love it when Simon tells these kids like it is. Also, I say NO more parents on stage - never, ever! Ok, my rant is over (for now)  |
Car54 | Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 06:40 am     I didn't watch the show last time until the final couple of episodes, and hated everything Kelly wore, frankly. None of her outfits except the ones that looked like street clothes flattered her enough. Now that she is working professionally she has improved a lot- she must have found a stylist. When they win, they can wear deely-boppers on their heads for all I care, but the hat thing (and some of the other clothing issues I saw last night) shows a lack of imagination. It is a quick fix for when you don't know how to create a look with your hair, or are trying to cop an attitude. That was one of my issues with the last one, I thought they did not give these kids enough support in creating the image- and a lot of them looked like they got their outfits at a discount store- the show should help shape them so they improve over the course of time. Last night, I liked what Kimberly wore, Bettis, and Patrick (I agreed with Paula, not Randy and Simon on this one). That was about it for image for me. (I did this for a living for 15 years...costume design and did some stylist work for the music and tv industry- so that is what I watch for!) Essence, you may have missed our discussion of LL Cool J's hat on the Today show- we thought it was a lovely, flattering choice. |
Conejo | Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 06:41 am     OMG, almost forgot, did anyone else see Evan from JOE MILLIONAIRE on the show last night? He looked horrible - this man needs to take a bath and find someone that can dress him. OMG can't believe the producers would even let him in front of the cameras looking like that. |
Car54 | Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 06:44 am     Oh, and I liked the family in the red room-(not on the stage tho). I did not see it last time so I have nothing to compare it to, but it lets you know more about the contestant. It is hard to hate a performer in front of their grandma. |
Skypilot | Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 06:47 am     I don't know about anyone else but last night was the first time that I have ever been truly appalled by Simon. He really seemed to have some sort of bug up his a**, more than usual. Please forgive me if I get some of the contestants' names wrong (I'm really bad with names) but I thought that the whole thing with Patrick and his outfit was outrageous. The most that should have been said about what he was wearing is, "Lose the tie" and then they should have moved on. If I hadn't been able to see Patrick for myself I would have thought that he was out there in bell-bottom pants, hightop Converse sneakers and rainbow suspenders with the way Simon carried on. And when he told Meosha (?) that she walked out on the stage "a loser" my jaw hit the floor. We are still fairly early in the competition and though I didn't think that she was the best singer last night she sure didn't make me cringe or put my hands over my ears. I mean my God the original auditions aren't that distant a memory and we all know the horrors that are out there thinking that they have talent. I don't know whether to call it a slap or a spit in the face but that comment to Meosha was disgusting even coming from Simon. Let me make it perfectly clear that I am actually a fan of Simon's and usually don't have much of a problem with his harsh criticisms because I know that the music industry will dish out much worse to whoever becomes a part of it but I also know that at this early stage of the game when the contestants are singing with minimal musical accompaniment most of them were not THAT bad and it is too early to be calling anyone a loser unless they give a truly awful performance. And I just have to say it. It truly galls me to hear someone who is not from America ramming the whole "image" thing down the throat of American young people. American is often criticised for embracing "mediocrity", "style over substance", "the lowest common denominator", blah, blah, blah and I think this whole preoccupation with image is part of the problem. There's a reason there are "Britney clones" like the one an earlier poster said he was so tired of. Too many of our music artist have image coming out the wazoo along with the flashiest videos when in fact they are not that great as musicians and are soon replaced by the next new thing that comes along. I'm sure there are people out there thinking, "Well, that's part of the business", and they are right but that is also the problem. It has become TOO integral a part of the business and I think that music has suffered for it. Achieving this whole "synergy" thing between music and video and film and fashion takes up energy that could and should be used to create some truly new and memorable music. We are long overdue for it. |
Webkitty | Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 06:55 am     LOL, now you guys are going to make me feel as if I have to defend Kim the same way MsCar felt she had to defend Hildi in the TS thread. Please give me a specific example of Kim's bad attitude, either last night or previously. Also, please explain what she has said or done to be labled a bimbo. All of the kids last night were rooting for each other, Kim included, why does this make her a bimbo? She does not simper, act silly, nasty or catty. She does have a quiet confidence, and seems to be willing to work hard for what she wants. So what if she is attractive and has blond hair? She can belt out a tune, and can pick out a decent outfit to wear, what's the beef? LOL. Is it that she is not gushingly sweet? Not animated enough? Too attractive? Can't sing? What? Clue me in Just wondering..... One more thought, she does not come across as cookie cutter to me. She is blonde, and attractive, but does not flaunt her body or dress like C.A. or Brittney. Her voice is rich and unique, and she seems mature for her age. (just another thought) |
Conejo | Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 07:00 am     I think Simon was correct in telling Moesha she was a loser when she walked on stage. My god, that HAT and outfit - what was she thinking? Appearance means alot in the entertainment business and Moesha definately missed the mark! JMHO Now, if she was wearing that gettup to perform in a broadway play, etc. that uses "costums" to enhance the performance it would have been fine. |
Conejo | Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 07:10 am     Webkitty, I actually tuned in right after Kim performed and I wasn't sure what her name was so I called her a blonde bimbo. However, wasn't she the one that was jumping up and down backstage after nearly every performance? I don't understand why people pretend to love a performance when it obviously stinks. And, as Simon pointed out, I really think that very few of these contestants want the other ones to have a brilliant performance. JMHO Also, as with other reality shows, all of these kids are having a "love fest" with each other and they can't possibly know each other that well in such a short period of time, IMO |
Webkitty | Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 07:29 am     Conejo, the kids did that last year too. Its a tense situation, and they just all root for each other while its going on. The others were hooping and howerling and jumping too. Show of support. As with many reality shows, the contestants involved always seem to come out the other end saying they made a bond, even if the time together was short. I think it might be one of those things that a person would have to experience first hand to know exactly what they are talking about.  |
Wcv63 | Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 07:32 am     I wasn't terribly impressed with the caliber of last night's performances. I absolutely HATE the idea of the performers' families being in the red room. I was appalled when Patrick's father went to his son's defense. It didn't help Patrick and only served to make him look like he can't handle criticism. Kim reminds me of a curvier Tara Reid American Pie actress. Her voice isn't bad but I wasn't blown away either. Julia's outfit was abysmal but her voice wasn't bad either. I liked Trenyce but didn't care for the growly effect she had going throughout the entire song. Charles has a good voice but once again..it didn't blow me away. When Kelly sang for the first time last year (that we were allowed to see anyway) my initial impression was "Wow...that girl can sing!" I'm waiting for someone that inspires me to vote. |
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