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Jimmer

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 08:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that Josh is a decent singer when he is on and does the right stuff. However, IMO, he's no where near as good as the other four. What is particularly appalling about this vote, is he was really bad the last two weeks. I think this vote really says something about the way the American public thinks.

Yes Simon was dancing with Randy. Obviously it was either Randy or Paula and Simon made the best of a tough choice.

Eliz87

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 08:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was very dismayed that my Ruben was in the bottom two. :-( My fingers are going to be busy dialing next week! I cannot believe that Josh is still there and not Trenyce. While Trenyce wasn't my favorite, she is much more tolerable than Josh, IMO. *sigh* In any case, I will be happy if either Ruben, Clay or Kimberly wins this AND that they are in the top three. Simon was absolutely right. This is a SINGING competition. I mean, so the kid's a Marine. Big deal. War's over. Go home.

The high point of the night for me was Justin Guarini!!! I just love his style and definitely will be out getting that CD when it arrives. :-)

Ladytex

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 08:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OK, it's AWWWWNNNNN now! I was reading on other boards that the clay fans wanted to make sure that he was not in the finals with Ruben. So now the gloves are off and the game is on.

Rabbit

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 08:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ladytex, how could Clay fans have gotten Rueben into the bottom 2? They would have had to vote for Clay, Kimberly, Josh and Trenyce almost equally to get Rueben out and with all that split effort it would have been Clay not Rueben in the bottom 2.

Ladytex

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 08:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
very easily, rabbit, you vote many times for everyone but him ....

Muse

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 08:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, Ladytex...those are *some* Clay fans. I'm a Clay fan, and I don't feel that way. I'd be happiest with either a Clay/Kimberley or Clay/Ruben final two. That way if Clay wins, no one can say he didn't go up against the best. :)

Btw -- being the big Clay fan that I am, I visit a number of Clay boards/sites. There was NO talk of trying to get Ruben out. Maybe a few people hoping that Clay's biggest competition would go, but certainly no big operations to vote for everyone but Ruben. If anything, people pushed for people to avoid split votes and vote just for Clay, since you never know what could happen (see tonight). Plus, honestly, I doubt that many people knew that Ruben was in serious danger, including Clay fans.

Jimmer

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 08:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There's nothing like a good conspiracy theory! Some people are saying that Ruben's church is influencing the vote. Come on? There are 20 million votes in total. Is Ruben's church that big?!?!?

Ladytex

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 08:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
well, this vote just shot that theory to he!!, didn't it. They just started it to get people not to vote for him, to start hard feelings.

Mygetaway

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 08:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That was my strategy in the beginning. I voted for everyone BUT the bottom three I wanted out. Did it work? Who knows. I also didn't vote for the two full hours then either.

Muse

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 08:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No, Jimmer. And the church stuff doesn't bother me at all, either. Because you know -- those people are obviously fans of Ruben's. If they weren't voting at the church, they would probably be busy voting at home. I think of it as being more of a fan gathering sort of thing...watch the show, vote afterward. The same thing is happening for ALL the contestants, I bet. Since I don't think that's cheating in any way, I don't understand what the fuss is about.

Crazydog

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 08:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Rabbit. I think it is a complete crock that Joshua is still on the show. Trenyce rocked last night, she didn't deserve to go home. Joshua was horrible - his second song was just painful. I can't believe that this guy got more votes than Ruben. Of the final five I think Joshua is the only one who should not get signed by someone.

I'd like to see the judges give Joshua a challenging song that cannot be countrified for their pick. What a joke that this guy is still here. And is it me, but is he getting fatter and fatter each week?

Spygirl

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 08:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I guess my voting strategy from last night could be construed an attempt to get Ruben out, but in fact, I was just trying to keep my favorites in. I'm not a huge Ruben fan. I would not like to see him win because I would rather see Clay or Kim L win, so I vote according to that.

Mygetaway

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 08:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have only voted for Kim for the last three weeks. I figured the Clay and Ruben fans were doing their share, and I had to make up for Kim.
I would be happy with any of the three, but my personal fav is Kim. I want her to go all the way.
Ruben and Clay will have no problems with offers. I want Kim to get the extra exposure as The Idol.

Heyltslori

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 08:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think ya'll are just upset that Carmen is gone. :)

Costacat

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 08:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OMG, Simon's expression was priceless. And Josh! That man surely does know he does not belong there. I can only hope that "America" comes to his/her senses next week and votes him out. Simon said it best... this is a "singing competition." It's not about who's the cutest, or who is prettiest. It's about who can sing. Because, by now, they've got the rest (the stylists, the makeup, the hairdressers, the publicists).

Mygetaway

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 08:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
GREAT LAST SONGS! Both did really well. Ruben hasn't stopped smiling. He's got a lot of class.

Max

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 09:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OMG! Okay, now that I have this cool phone with one-button mLife access, next week my darned fingers are gonna be dialing like crazy for Kim and Ruben! Simon's expression was pretty much the same as mine. There must have been a LOT of Marines dialing in for Josh! He has a nice voice and I think he'd make a fine country/western singer (heck, I might even buy a CD), but I don't think he's in the same class as Ruben/Clay/Kim. I figured Josh would go tonight and Trenyce next week. Oh well.

We KNOW what we need to do, don't we?!! :)

Egbok

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 09:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amazing show tonight, albeit, at Trenyce's expense. IMHO, Josh clearly was the one who should have gone tonight and I couldn't stop thinking about how he is feeling tonight. I'd imagine he's one with very mixed feelings.

Donut

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 09:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i only voted for Kim too, cuz she's great and needs the boost badly, as i dont think she has the power voting of the others, but i would be glad if ruben won too.. Besides my feelings about the josh votes(theres a good bunch o'ranting at the wake up thread), i also think that everyone figured that Ruben is sure to win and has plenty of votes, and therefore voted to keep up their favorites into the top 4, and ddnt vote for ruben for that reason. I cant imagine that he didnt get the votes because people dont like him or his singing!
it makes you wonder about the effectiveness of the voting procedure tho.. cuz now if everyone realizes that they cant just leave the ruben vote to others, will the Ruben push take away from others and could it hurt someone else in the process? i dont know why they dont just limit one vote per person. i cant figure out why they did it like this ... it makes no sense!! i guess just so those network jerks can say how many millions of votes they got... instead of saying that they got a few thousand REAL votes!

Abbynormal

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 09:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I voted only for Kim too, because I figured she needed it the most. I would be very very happy with a Kim, Clay, or Ruben win. But now I am paranoid and must only vote for Ruben because I don't want him to go. I don't like being held hostage to this voting thing. But then again, I guess when it gets this close it does get hairy.

Curious1

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 10:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ok I'm going to rock the boat here a little bit. My overactive mind has come up with what I think might be a conspiracy on the producers part. This has sort of been mentioned before but I just have a little bit to add to it.

Ok, do you think that the producers actually know who the person with the fewest votes is and they just pick the other contestant/contestants for the bottom 2 or 3 for some dramatic TV. I'm saying maybe they added Ruben to the bottom 2 alongside Treynce because they knew she was going. My theory is that trenyce and josh had the fewest votes but it made the episode more exciting to put Ruben up there with trenyce rather than to put Josh up there?

If this is true, maybe the producers have done this for more than an exciting episode and they did it because they want american to vote extra for Ruben next week. since in their eyes that is who they'd like to promote as the next american Idol winner?

Jhezzie

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 10:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good grief. I have been liking Josh less and less as this goes on. I get the feeling that he's believing his own hype. The past couple of weeks, he's had this smirk on his face that screams "I'm golden." He should have been gone tonight! Oh well, I will be voting early and often next week.

Nanarobin

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 10:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OMG...After posting for a while in the TV shows and other areas...I just now found this AI thread!! DUH to me!! @#$%^%$$%^&&^

Anyway...as I watched the show tonight I had to jump straight up when they announced the final two ..saying WTF more than once! I quickly called me niece who is a huge Rueben fan and she was cussing and steaming into the phone!! It was a venting funny converstion as we like different contestants!

While I have never been a supporter of anyone but Clay, I must admit that everyone but Josh and Rueben was good last night. Rueben was the most off key that I have ever heard him before and Josh was country Josh. Trenyce was fantastic..I was so shocked when she left tonight!
And I have to agree with above comment that Josh was glad to stay but knew he did not deserve it..as he put his head in his hands to hide his feelings.

I, too, was shocked to see first Paula and DOG dancing and then DOG dancing with Simon!! I cannot believe ole stiff Simon would do that! I guess he was still so angry and shocked at the outcome! The judges faces and comments after the final vote reveal were priceless! And...FOR ONCE, Simon was right on his call that this is a singing competition!

I loved hearing Justin sing..he has been well produced and he is still such a cutie! I cannot wait for his album in June!

I have to also admit that last night is the first time this year, that I have voted. I rewatched the show early this Wed. morning to ensure that I was right on my vote. It was about 4am when I called in...keep getting busy signals for hour or so. SOOOO...then I attempted text messanging on my ATT cell phone...twice for Clay!!

My query: If the show was over 7 hours before I attempted to vote via landline...were people just flooding the lines at that time? OR...does the call just register with no one answering? It sure seemed odd to me so long after the show can concluded???

Seamonkey

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 11:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The call in votes only work for two hours after the show airs in your area. You can get in a few votes just before the show ends, but they cut off right at 11pm if the show ends at 9pm. Then you get the busy signal.

During the voting hours you may get busy signal or just ringing or nothing but if you get thru a voice thanks you for voting for contestant number <nn> whatever number you were voting.

I have no idea about the text messaging but would suppose it isn't open any longer than two hours, but of course it costs, so maybe it is.

Muse

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 11:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Editing to say that yes, text messaging is just for the two hours, too.

Phone lines are generally busiest right after the show ends, by the way. And you might get some busy signals even after the first hour, depending on your location and who you're voting for (more popular contestants' lines are generally busier, obviously). Redial is a handy thing, though, if you really want to put your vote in. :)