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Conejo

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 05:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, and these women all act like a bunch of Gold Diggers to me. Did you see there faces "light up" when they saw the Manor and learned that he had almost $50 million.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 06:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Royal Bunny.....definately watch this. You would have learned about wine and the box step last night. I think fish knives and finger bowls are next. At the very least you will learn how not to wear your hair.

I was under the impression that construction workers made much more that 19,000, especially operating a machine. We know he models too so maybe the construction is only part time.

Webkitty

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 06:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Blow dry, blowdry......oops! (his hair is icky either way)

I don't think he's all that attractive, he looks best in profile.
They didn't say how many hours he worked, but I bet its only part time. Some construction workers make good money. I would bet the job was a set-up for the show.

I felt the scenes with the fois gras and wine were staged, but I still enjoyed the show.
Heidi MUST go next week!

Juju2bigdog

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 07:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Trulyscrumptious, no such thing as mandatory construction holiday in the U.S. Wages vary widely in the construction industry from state to state, depending on various things. In "right to work" states, where just anybody regardless of skills can work construction, wages are lower because a worker doesn't have to belong to a union to work. In states where one must belong to a union, wages are higher. In states with low unemployment, wages tend to be lower. In states where construction depends on the weather, wages tend to be higher. In Washington state, where I live (sometimes), $9 would not be an unusual wage for a young man in construction.

Tabbyking

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 07:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i liked jen and katy but neither was picked. heidi sucks. i would love to have seen flo on this show!! she would probably 'whine and dhine'...lol i thought the physician was a dud, too...she made it quite clear a husband would have to earn a lot of money, while all my female physician friends in real life have married men who were good with children and had more of a 'role reversal' from what used to be considered 'traditional' marriage. (one designs jewelry, another is a carpenter, another designs postage stamps. that couple have triplets and he does most of the mommy stuff because my friend is an eye surgeon). the only couple i know who are both high wage earners (neurosurgeon and anesthesiologist) should never have had a kid since nannies are raising him.

i loved when he bumped his chin on the saddle, but think he isn't too quick on the draw. man, i would bs with the best of them, while he had to struggle to come up with a middle name. why not just grab a rich sounding name out of the air? like princeton, or sheffield or schwarzganeger. ;>)

Realfan

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 07:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Anyone else hate Heidi?!?!? UGH!!!

I had fun watching. I think most of the women are actually nice. They seemed to be happy to enjoy their vacation to France for what it was. Even the ones leaving didn't seem too put out.

I liked the bright smile girl, and most of the others he gave necklaces to. And I loved that he seemed to favor shorter, dark-haired women (about time) and some ethnicity. (I'm still p.o.ed about that "Who Wants to Marry a Prince?" show that cast women who were all tall and mostly blonde, and the prince turned out to be a midget!)

I think bright smile girl goes a long way. I saw them in an intimate-type pose later, and he was kissing a gal with long brownish-blonde hair, so she goes a ways, too. (I have GOT to get better with names!).

I thought the etiquette lessons were sort of silly--is he really going to need to learn how to taste wine? Love how he gargled it, too. I've spoken with some sophisticated, wealthy people who say that stuff about the "right wine with dinner" isn't nearly as important as choosing a wine you enjoy.

Back to <MOD>Heidi. What was she doing to his hand?? At first I thought she was checking his lifeline, then I thought she was checking for callouses. Even if she was checking his lifeline, she couldn't help but notice the callouses, right? Of course, he was "riding" without his gloves, so that might explain it.

I was annoyed he picked <Heidi>, but then again, the show is more fun with her in it. That dress selection thing was designed to make the women look bad. I'm amazed no one thought to wonder if there would be dresses that FIT them beforehand. (If I put one on, it would drag all over the floor.) Poor Zora/Zonya/Zara, the others made her feel fat when she really isn't.

As for Evan--hah! He seems like a genuinely nice guy, but not a fast thinker, as someone said. I would have blurted out the first name that came to mind when asked my middle name.

This is how I knew it would be, though, in terms of the lies he has to tell. The write-ups made it sound like he "only" lies about the money, but that means he's lying about where he lives, how it felt to inherit, what he does all day, his dreams and plans, and virtually everything else.

PS--How do you get the cute icons?

<c>

Rissa

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 07:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Realfan, she was checking to make sure he 'was real' and not a figment of her imagination {gag me}. I can't stand her either. I told hubby that instead of showing *Joe* greeting the women, I would have rather had the camara focussed on the women already seated.... some of those faces were priceless!! LOL They mentioned some spats next week? No kidding, I can easily picture half that group with nails out in full cat-fight mode. LOL

Fruitbat

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 08:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
A split screen would be great. One on Evan and the other panning for reactions.

It is silly to teach Evan all this etiquette. It has been established that he is a regular guy who just recently inherited millions. He would not necessarily have been taught all of this.

I suspect that the production staff got to know these women before Evan arrived on the scene. I think he was given pictures/names and some direction.

If faced with 25 men I think it likely that I would be attracted to maybe 5 or 7 right off the bat. It makes me think they told him some women to keep for the first cut if he was faced with not knowing who to pick to fill out the 12. Heidi was one of those woman. She will make it next week too, for this reason. (Alex kept Christy and that HAD to have been suggested, had to have been)

Grooch

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 08:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bat, I think they said that he inherited the money 2 years ago, so I guess the producers figured that he must have picked up some manners during this time while hobnobbing with the jet set.

Realfan

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 08:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm sorry, mods! I didn't realize the B word was off-limits (they say it on Friends, which as we all know is wholesome family fare ;) ) Seriously, I do love that there isn't swearing on this board.

I think they are told who to keep for some of them, too, Fruit. I think that may be why he kept two minority women. Same with Aaron on B2. I don't think he was ever attracted to them, but was filling out a "quota" the producers had.

Maybe I'm just cynical.

Grooch, he would only have the manners if he himself tried to learn them. The Beverly Hillbillies never did... :) And, actually, when I read about famous rich people, it's amazing how crude a lot of them were.

Brenda1966

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 08:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Car, what's a "mouth-breather?" PArdon my ignorance!

Well, I didn't watch the Bachelor so I can't compare the two, but I did kind of enjoy this although I felt guilty watching them be lied to about how rich he was. It's a bit cruel really but I doubt these girls will mind as long as they get their face on TV.

Heidi makes me want to scream. I guess every good story needs a villian and she's it. She's the only gal I wish he hadn't kept.

I also don't understand the 19,000 a year thing. He must only work part time. He's not my type but I can see why others think he's cute.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 08:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I will answer for Car. It is simply when one breathes through their mouth rather than their nose.

Max

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 08:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Mouth-breathing gives the general impression that said breather is not very intelligent. Sort of like caveman status. :)

I agree that he must only work part time. Can't imagine a construction worker in southern California making that small amount of dough. Anyone from So.Cal. who would have any factual information about wages for that kind of job?

He was on GMA this morning. I'm sorry, but he just looks so.... dim. He sort of has this blank expression most of the time like he's trying to figure out what the heck is going on. When asked if how the girl he picks is doing, he said he didn't know. He also implied he wouldn't be returning to that construction job anytime soon.

Rissa

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 08:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have to say this. LOL I know many millionaires... these are people who worked their *sses off to get where they are and without exception came from lower middle class backgrounds. They are friendly, wonderfull people who do not do pompous things like gargle wine and hold balls. LOL This guy is supposed to have come into money, not been born into it... they should let the guy relax a notch by not asking him to act like royalty.:)

A couple weeks ago, I heard on the radio a little survey... apparently BMW drivers are the rudest on the road. They followed this up by saying that according to research people who drive BMW's are mostly doctors/lawyers, and those who were born with silver spoons. On the other hand, Mercedes which cost an equivelant amount are mostly driven by those who started at the bottom and worked their way up over many years... those who start their own companies, upper management, etc. (PLEASE NOTE... I suck at explaining myself, I hope my gist came through. LOL). What I am trying to say is that all the rich people I know drive Mercedes and maybe that makes a difference....the show is trying to turn *Joe* into a BMW. :)

Ginger1218

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 08:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Webkitty says: "This guys hair is a distraction for me. Those wings! And it looks like he need a good blow dry."

I totally read it differently. I was hysterical. And, I agree with what I thought as well

Anyway, I think that we are gonna find plenty of people to hate on this show. Heidi is Numero Uno.

What a sick bunch of puppies. (them for being on it, and us for watching and enjoying it LOL)

Grooch

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 08:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
woof! woof!

Jagger

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 09:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I was not impressed by this show, I will give it one more week to see if it gets better, if not I will take it off my list for Monday nights. Of course I will still watch the final episode just to see what happens. Does he really tell her he is really just an average Joe with no money, or is Fox playing us and he indeed is rich?

Weenerlobo

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 09:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, a joke played on millions of viewers would be better than that played on 20 women, now wouldn't it.

Crazydog

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 09:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I did feel a little sorry for the women when they were carted up to the castle in a horse drawn carriage. They seemed so excited and naive.

Then I developed full blown hate for several of them. I think most people dislike Heidi most of all. But I also really dislike the Asian girl (Katie?) who got picked. She comes across as the idiot of all idiots. She's a doctor and it's important to her to have a man who can take care of her financially? I know that some women have issues with this, but if one of her requirements in a marriage is that her husband makes more money than she does, then she seriously should have thought twice about becoming a doctor.

As far as there being a double twist, and he is really a millionaire, etc... I highly doubt it. This guy is too dumb to fool 20 people, let alone millions of viewers. The psychological pressure of the double twist would be like asking him to be The Mole, and I don't think he has the capacity to do it. You know that movie Victor Victoria? Where Julie Andrews is a woman playing a man playing a woman? Too confusing for this box of bricks. He can barely keep his name straight - no way he'd be able to keep track of all the lies and double lies.

Zipsdaddy

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 10:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Did anyone catch the pics of Joe on The Smoking Gun site in his speedos before the pics were yanked!!!!?????

Grooch

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 10:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yep. And I have them saved.

Why did they yank them?

Conejo

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 10:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yep. I saw them too! Kinda scary looking I thought! Kinda reminded me of the Ken photos from Survivor-these guys look one way on the TV and almost scary in these photo shoots.JMHO

Sanfranjoshfan

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 10:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I saw a quick segment on Fox News this morning about Evan....apparently he has done some underwear modeling. They showed a few examples of him in sexy underwear, but I can't find them anywhere on the net. Any suggestions where I might find them?:)

Grooch

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 10:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sanfran, I can email one of them for you. The second one is on my home computer.

Sanfranjoshfan

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 10:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Grooch....but I just now found them! I read the latest posts in this thread first and saw that zipdaddy posted that the smokinggun pix were yanked, but then I went back and started reading this thread from the beginning and found your post with the link to them. There are still there! Thanks!

Here it is again:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/marriott1.html