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Missy2

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 07:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I watched, but I was not impressed. There was a brief moment during the pre-show show that I actually liked Evan but it faded. I don't know if it was because of editing but this series lacked something - did anyone else feel that too? I like both Sera (Sara?) and Zora, but not Evan.

I also felt that when he chose Zora that he didn't really like her that much. And when Sara was saying she was upset that she kissed him, I think she kissed a bit more than his mouth (eehhm, if you know what I mean). If she was pissed that she did this and he rejected her that would definitely say that her motives were completely superficial.

Ugh - I'm kind of sorry I wasted my time watching this show - anyone else?

Kellirippa

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 07:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Crazydog - I believe that she said she WOULD sell a necklace (as in, in the future) to pay for the medical bills

Bandit

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 07:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I absolutely loved the ending as well. And Evan actually looked kind of cute when he smiled after Zora told him she wanted to continue the journey. They looked genuine. I thought it was great that they got the money.

I have one question though...

The final show was taped around Thanksgiving. And FOX is saying that next week's show will reunite Zora and Evan for the first time since being at the chateaux. Well, if they were together, why would they be reunited for the first time in 4 months? This sounds like they are not actually together. Hmmmmmmm.....

Webkitty

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 07:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Crazydog, I didn't hear she was "pissed"

What I heard, was that she told him she was actually turned off by the 50 Million, and was rather relieved to learn he didn't have it.
There is a huge difference between 50 million and 500 thousand.

Also, I took it that she was *thinking* of selling some jewelry, not that she had actually done it.

Wink

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 07:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I liked everything about the ending except for Zora's hair.123

Texannie

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 07:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Did any of ya'll see Regis and Kelly this am? I was crying I was laughing so hard!!!!

Kellirippa

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 07:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that this show should win some kind of editing emmy. This potentially smarmy premise turned out to be a lovely fairy tale. Right from the the first show, when Zora didn't have a dress, one of the other girls commented that after the stepsisters picked over all the dresses, Cinderella got her dress for the ball. They threw in every comment that Sara made about money and Evan not being her type, but he could be changed, and they threw in every lovely thing about Zora, even the disney blue-birds and fawns in the woods ~ I think we were set up, but it was cute.

Brenda1966

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 07:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm with Herm on this one -- I was grinning from ear to ear at the finale. I even got goosebumps!

No, I didn't expect any big "twist". I'm tired of falling for that and being disappointed. I loved that Zora won some money. I also ended up loving that she accepted the ring and wanted to try getting to know him more. While seeing Evan be rejected has a certain appeal, I think Zora did the right thing if she has any interest in him as a person. What is there to lose by giving it a chance?

This was the Cinderella story for Zora.

Also, the first hour impressed me. I was expecting a recap and they basically gave us new footage of the different women. I enjoyed that too and will certainly tune in next week to see what happens.

Kellirippa

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 07:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Texannie ~ didn't Kelly Ripa leave to have that baby yet?

Max

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 07:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
First off, I liked the ending. I don't care if they stay together, I was just happy to see Zora get the money. She seems like a really genuine, caring person.

ANd yes, she said that her first inclination was to sell some of the jewelry, not that she had sold it.

Of course, they had to film those clips as though no one knew the outcome. Otherwise, it wouldn't have worked in the context of the show.

As on the Bachelor/Bachelorette, the two final players aren't allowed to be seen together until the show airs. They might see each other once or twice as arranged by the network in top-secret conditions, but usually it's dangerous for them to even talk on the phone what with all the snoopy folks around trying to figure things out.

Regis and Kelly doesn't come on for another 3 hours here. I'm anxiously awaiting it! :)

GO ZORA!!! I don't care if she stays with Evan or not. I just like her. :)

Crazydog

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 07:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanx for the explanations about selling the necklaces. I could have sworn her saying something about the $50 million and saying "actually I was a little pissed about that" but maybe my ears need cleaning!

Bandit, it's true, they've been sequestered, or whatever you want to call it, by Fox during the run of the show. I also think they aren't together anymore. During one of his many Entertainment Tonight appearances, I thought he said he was looking for that "special someone".

I agree Missy2, in the beginning I liked him and thought all the girls were golddiggers, but my like for him faded quickly. I liked Sarah as well. She made no pretensions as to why she was there. As far as Zora, she is still a mystery to me. I thought the editing was very poor on this show, they never fully explained why he kept picking her even though they were both miserable on their dates. They could have had a clip of Zora saying "he's nice, but I don't like the fact that he has all the money, if he didn't have the money perhaps I would feel better about him".

Kellirippa

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 08:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
After the show was over, there was a voice over announcing that next weeks reunion was the first time that the two would appear together in PUBLIC.

Brenda1966

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 08:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Regarding that article that said something about "they'll be millionaires if they stay together." I don't think that means anything other than: if they pool their money they have a million (not true after taxes...) but if they each take half they don't have a million and aren't millionaires. They're just two lucky people.

Texannie

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 08:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Kellirippa...I think she was supposed to be off, but with the blizzard in NY, Regis is trapped in Las Vegas and she and Mark Conseulos were there. Mark was quite funny.

Max

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 08:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This is Kelly Rippa's last week on the show. She begins maternity leave next week. At least that's what they said yesterday.

Brenda1966

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 08:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Crazydog, Zora did say something to Evan about the money. I don't recall the exact words, but my impression was that she conveyed she was uncomfortable or turned off by his inheriting a ton of money (but not pissed about it). She said this during her acceptance of the ring.

Pamy

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 08:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I must admit after actually watching the show, I liked it! I still don't think the ending was SHOCKING, surprising, yes, shocking no. I am glad Zora was picked because she seems so nice and if they don't stay together she will have some money

Texannie

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 08:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Max, wasn't sure, and they had taped yesterday's show early.

Kellirippa

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 08:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, I think all reality shows are heavily edited to create hero's and villians, it's what makes them fun to watch, even that new one, Sadaam and George, where they both try to vote each other off the planet, seems pretty heavily edited...

Crazydog

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 08:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh Brenda, I know she said something about that when she accepted the ring, I just wish there had been some more explanation after each successive "picking" of her. She was the one who most didn't want to be there and they never fully explained how or why she kept making it other than "I'm intrigued by her".

The saddest thing to me is that I had thought all along that maybe he's just an actor and he is really rich and this was just all a test. The non-twist confirmed that what we saw is what he is.

We tried to explain away his bad manners and attitudes ("hot rocket body", champagne cork launchings, sniffing of fork, befuddlement at French food) as acting. Now I'm sure he was told by Fox to show up at American Idol. But I don't know if they instructed him to look like he just rolled out of bed with unwashed hair and dirty clothes - he didn't look quite so bad on Entertainment Tonight. He is not an actor. All of that is really him.

Run Zora run.

Emt911

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 08:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I was wondering if he picked Zora, despite all their differences, because he knows it won't last. If he picked her because they are so different. He fulfilled the show's requirement, which was to pick a gal. Maybe he knew this relationship would fade away on its own down the road. If he had chosen someone much more aggressive, he might feel 'strangled' by this person and unable to get out of a relationship. I don't believe Evan really went there to find a true and lasting love/relationship. I think he went to further his 'career'.
After saying that, I still thought the end was sweet and Zora was who I wanted him to pick. I just don't see them together in the future, which in my opinion, would be his loss. He could learn a lot by being more like Zora and less like himself. She is so selfless and that's refreshing in this day of 'me, me'. IMHO, of course!

Denecee

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 08:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I liked the last show except for two things:
Paul recapped the recaps & the freaking commercials!! I think there was a commercial every 4 1/2 minutes and then Paul would do his little spill.

Crazydog

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 08:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Not to mention the fact that he had to keep reminding us that there was a "shocking twist" at the end. As if he and Fox knew they were at the end of their rope because of last week's stunt and were afraid of alienating viewers. We get it, we know there is a "shocking twist", you don't have to say it every time before you go to commercial.

Ginger1218

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 08:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Kellirippa that was very funny.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 09:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
So what did happen on Regis and Kelly today.. I missed it totally...

I know in earlier confessionals Zora said his inheritance bothered her because she's never lived with money, felt at a loss for how to act.

The odds aren't with them, but if they do give it a go, and he acquired some grooming habits, he could make some kids and oldsters awfully happy with some visits and they could help her aunt too.

I actually don't think Zora would object to his continued love of moving the earth, if that is really his passion.