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Fanny

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 10:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Clay is awesome. I also think he looks like KD Lang.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 11:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
25% Joshua 87,524
234 Clay 81,883
16% Ruben 56,609
11% Kimberly C 39,487
05% Trenyce 18,774
03% Julia 11,803
03% Corey 11,259
03% Vanessa 8,896
02% Charles 7,694
02% Carmen 7,694
02% Rickey 6,904
02% Kimberly L 6,523


345,050 total

And just while I was typing, Carmen moved ahead of Charles.. I'm going to put in some votes!!

Willsfan

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 11:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I enjoyed Clay's performance. Ruben seemed very nervous tonight, more so than ever before and his singing was sorta flat. Makes me wonder what goes on "backstage".

Hereiam

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 12:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Does anyone else find it odd that Simon mentions weight to many of the performers (such as Josh tonight) but nothing to Ruben? Was the jab at Josh supposed to be a joke? I really don't care what size they are. I just find it interesting that it is not mentioned to Ruben and is to some of the others.

Car54

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 01:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This was their first time in front of the live audience, right? I think it showed for Ruben and Charles...they were a little off and did not know how to work the audience. Some of the others have obviously sung in front of large audiences before and took to it naturally.

I enjoyed Clay but his style is hard to apply to Motown...he just does not have that kind of earthy sound ..or the physicality. I thought the same thing with Joshua but his interp was marginally better than Clay's. Carmen doesn't have a clue what the Motown sound is like.

I think the ones who were better at Motown will have a harder time on different types of songs...I guess that is why they do a range of songwriters and style.

I was amazed at how very different the videos for Josh and Clay were from everyone else. It was as if they were directed by someone else than the others. Maybe Trenyce as well. Wonder if they had different crews who went out to film the contestants at home.

Djgirl5235

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 04:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The thing is, that LD REALLY likes Clay, and would love to work with him again. He was very impressed in an article I read yesterday - I'll have to find it and post a link...

Djgirl5235

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 04:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Here it is:

Lamont Dozier on the AI kids

Not1worry

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 05:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
HereIam, I had the same thought about Ruben's weight. How dare he tell a Marine to lose weight (I have no doubt Joshua is well within military standards, he doesn't look heavy at ALL to me) and ignore Ruben's obesity?

I heard about the so-called Carmen Conspiracy from RealityNewsOnline.com, they have a Foxes on Idol section.

Fruitbat

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 05:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I didn't call but I certainly will from now on. I would have voted for Trenyce. That surprized me but she was the one that did it for me last night. I am surprized to see her so low in the polls. Do they publish these so viewers who do not check the internet can see them?

I adore yodeling but not the songs that contain them. It fascinates me.

Joshua is leading the chart, in part, due to being a Marine. I would love to be able to see the figures if he were a civilian.

I hope Charles remains and shines next week. There is something there. I like him.

I would also like to see Vanessa get some coaching to tone it down a tad. She made me nervous. She has the confidence but is showing it too much or in a twichy nervous way. Something needs to change there anyway. Unfortunate she got that nasty line to say on top of it.

Fruitbat

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 05:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Also. I do not believe for one minute that Simon was forced to chose Carmen. He is running the show here, it is he who is sigining the artist and putting up the money.

When he said she justified his pick he meant, she showed them he was right in choosing her. She did a fabulous job.

Some do not like her style but she cannot be faulted for her performance. It is a matter of taste.

Hootyhoot

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 05:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I wonder if each of the prospective idols gets a his/her own coach/stylist/advisor ... and some coaches are better than others? Or perhaps some of the kids accept advice and some don't?

Texannie

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 05:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I was really surprised how much I liked Trenyce..she was great! I know that Vanessa took Simon's Bette Midler comment as an insult, but they way I heard it say it, it really sounded like he was complimenting her. I heard..."you have too much talent as an entertainer to be in this competition"

Fruitbat

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 06:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I heard it as........you have talent (not too much)but are not American Idol material. This contest is very specific. It certainly was a compliment. Bette Midler is successful, has a superior voice and I would think Simon likes her.

Hooty, they definately have help behind the scenes. My guess is that they do not have someone specific to them until maybe the final 5. Wcv is the one that would know this.

Jasper

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 06:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I didn't think Vanessa was insulted and she said as much to Ryan. Julia however got snippy with Simon when he told her not to take any bows referring to the length of her skirt, but she didn't get it.

I thought Trenyce and Rueben were both terrific last night along with Clay of course. Josh looks like a country singer to me, nice voice but it would be unfortunate if he went far in the competition based solely on the Marine factor. I think Corey sounds terrible, I don't know why Simon is so big on him and I also thought Carmen had a squeak in her voice almost everytime she inhaled there was a hitch. My picks to go would be Carmen and Charles, (well actually Corey but I doubt he will). Rickey surprised me, I like him and that was the best I hear him sing. Both the Kim's failed to impress, Kim C always seems to be trying to hard and Kim L seemed to be talking her way thru it, Julia has a lovely voice but unfortunately dances like me, not well.

Prisonerno6

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 06:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This morning a local radio station played snippets from various performances, including Rueben's. Man, oh man, it sent chills down my spine, it was so good! They kept saying he could go on tour with the Four Tops right now, and I have to say after hearing him on the radio, I agree.

Fruitbat

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 06:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, Julia and her constant, and only body movement, swaying back and forth wasn't great.

Ricky has a beautiful voice but I just can't watch him sing. His mouth, especially his smile is odd.

Carmen did have a squeek, it is her country style. Unfortunately she won't make if far. I like her and I am not a fan of country music either. I thought she did beautifully last night. Pretty woman, too.

Ruben does not do it for me either. Good voice but the entire package does not work. He looks sooooooooo uncomfortable. I do hope the stylists tell him to stop this shirt in different colors routine. He probably has at least 10 made already.

Prisonerno6

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 06:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fruitbat, I hear Simon's comment the same way -- Vanessa is a great entertainer, but not in the American Idol mold.

I'm beginning to feel sorry for Simon. If he says something snarky, he gets carp for being snarky. If he says something nice, he gets carp for really meaning to be snarky.

His comments to Rueben are a case in point. He said Rueben's performance is what this show is all about, but since he put it in the context of Kelly Clarkson's new CD, its viewed as just a commercial for Kelly, not praise for Rueben. I saw it as high praise -- this show is all about giving someone with the talent a chance to succeed, a chance he or she probably would never get otherwise.

I doubt that Rueben, despite that amazing voice of his, would ever get past the front door of a recording studio without something like American Idol to help him. A lot of the others (like the Kimberlys, Trenyce, and even Clay) have a better chance at success than Rueben does for a variety of reasons. That's why Simon says Rueben is what this show is all about, giving a chance for talent to succeed when otherwise it wouldn't have that chance.

Prisonerno6

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 06:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Not only does Julia sway back and forth, she doesn't do it in time to the music! She's about a 1/4 beat off in her swaying...

Fruitbat

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 06:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Figuring the top 5 will most likely get something going I think Ruben will do well.

Nikki from last year seems stalled though. Owning a Kareoke bar? Not what she had hoped for I am sure.

Faerygdds

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 06:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fruitbat.. I live in Dallas... near the Karaoke bar... she doesn't own the bar itself. She owns the Karaoke company though. She has had a few offers, but apparently they would mean leaving her family for an extended period of time and she didn't want to be away from her son. I'm glad she didn't win... she is committed to her family (as she should be) and really doesn't have time to totally commit to a career. She says that her karaoke company is "enough". My guess is... she doesn't feel stalled... just fulfilled.

BTW... all this is second hand.. I have a good friend that lives in Grand Praire and sings kareoke regularly at the bar.

Yuhuru

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 08:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Trenyce was the best tonight. She seemed so much netter than before and she had on less make up. I really loved Ruben's video. I think it's cool that he's so proud of Birmingham, BUT how many of those 205 shirts can one person have?

I think Carmen has a future in the music biz, but I don't think she's the AMerican Idol. She's just 16.

Texannie

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 08:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
what does 205 stand for???
My daughter (9 today!!) commented that Carmen's makeup didn't go with her outfit "mom, he outfit is fun and cute, but her makeup is too old and bright!"

Grooch

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 08:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree that Trenyce was the best one last night. I hope she performs as well with the other styles of music.

I wonder how much time the singers had to practice these song, since Billy Joel was originally going to be on. If they only had a day or two, then they really did great!

Carmen needs to get rid of the blue eyeshadow and that lipstick color.

Wcv63

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 08:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Texannie..205 is the area code for Birmingham, AL.

Hermione69

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 08:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
205 is his area code.