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Ryn

Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 05:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well - I watched it again, for some reason this show seems thrown together to me.

I get the feeling Alex was supposed to have a bigger role and they ditched her for the Butler, there were a couple of times I felt like Alex had a part and it had been cut out and the Butler re-shot her part (some of his announcements were of him standing by himself and you never saw the girls in the same shot).

I can't tell half the women he chose, and pssst - he couldn't choose 2 from each date - there were only 5 left :P hehe. But maybe he already had an idea who he would choose so they split them up that way on purpose.

This show seems very heavily edited to me.

But _ I am still watching it.

oh, I taped the show so I missed it, but during they show the local Indianapolis Fox station teased that they would have an interview of the woman from Indiana that was on the show (can't recall which one it was).

The teaser clip showed her saying something to the effect that some of the women were suspicious, and some were clueless, she implied that some of the women were smarter than others :)

Fruitbat

Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 05:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I wish someone would help Evan with his posture. He leads with his head and holds it forward and down. Probably the result of being self concious about his height when he was younger. It gives him a big lumbering cave man gait. Evan...strings from the chest pulling high, hold head up and back.

He chose Mojo because she was easy to talk to and dismissed Dana because she was too quiet for him. We did not see a lot of this but Mojo was rambling about her background and college majors on the train. She filled the air anyway, with pretty dull stuff.

The dates were great and a refreshing change.

The butler is fabulous and the star of this show. Heidi examining the necklaces before the chosing was complete was priceless!

I don't get the feeling that he really wants to find a wife or even girlfriend. I suspect he has designs on a modeling career despite his protests. Wonder how they found him. I assume through his agent.

Conejo

Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 05:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Glad to see Evan cut Heidi-Ho loose! I agree Fruitbat there is something going on with Evan's head! I still say the back of his head is Flat and his hair - Yikes!

He should have cut Mojo loose right along with Heidi-Ho! IMO

Alex was only on the show for about 15 seconds???
What show was she on? I don't remember her at all.

Jeep

Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 05:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm watching this show, too, but I don't know why. Evan is just OK and I never did like cat fights. It was so nice to see Heidi-Ho get booted. Her expression said it all. She really thought she had it in the bag. I didn't even think she was pretty.

I do like Zora (I have an 80 year old aunt with that name). She seems the most "real" to me.

I agree with Ryn - Alex seems out of place and the butler steals the show. It does seem to be edited quite a bit.

I'll keep watching just because my curiosity gets the best of me. Is there another twist? Who does he choose?

Fruitbat

Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 06:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The back of his head *is* flat, adding to the poor posture. Not good.

I think production has a helping hand in his choices, to a point. If he were definate about his choices then they would not touch that but I think he has had his eye on three and the rest are filler so they requested he keep Mojo seeing that she could cause some friction. They did this with Heidi too. No way was he attracted to her.

He said he chose Mojo because she was easy to talk to, as if having to give an excuse. He said something about Heidi too that gave me the impression he had to explain the choice.

The butler could easily do Alex's part. Blink and you miss her.

Hermione69

Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 06:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"I've never watched these Bachelor shows before - has any contestant ever decided he/she didn't like the person and didn't want to go further in the game to win?"

Curious, on the last Bachelor, two girls opted to walk out at the start of the second rose ceremony before Aaron made his picks. Shocking behavior! LOL! The looks on the faces of Aaron and the other women were priceless.

Since I didn't watch the first show, I don't have any opinions of the girls from earlier. Last night, no one made a very favorable impression on me. They all seemed whiny. I agree with Ryn that it seems VERY heavily edited. Very manipulated. There didn't seem to be a flow at all. It was very choppy.

I also thought Fox did a very poor job identifying the women. They should have flashed their names on the screen more often, especially since this was only the 2nd episode and people are still learning who's who.

I can't even picture who Zora, whom a lot of you seem to like, is. I guess Allison impressed me the most. There is something about her that seems classy. I loved her red hair.

It's too bad in a way that he got rid of Heidi-ho. If she had been the last woman standing, the look on her face when he revealed his secret would have undoubtedly gone done as a great moment in Reality TV history!

Weenerlobo

Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 06:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fruit - you are so totally right about the lumbering cave man gait. I noticed the same thing last nite, especially when he had finished handing out the necklaces. But then, he could have been skulking out of the room. Nah - he needs a book balanced on his head for a while. Annnnnnd I was surprised that he didn't stay and say Good Bye the girls that he didn't choose. That was kinda cold.

Needmylifeback

Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 06:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Once again...loved the Butler! Glad that Heidi is out of there...I too believe she hid her bags....the shots they got of her expressions were priceless...wonder what ended up on the editing floor?...Spoiled Brat just begins to describe her....I bet at the end tho' there'll be an interview with her and she'll say that she knew he wasn't a millionaire for (insert any reason here)....and that she was more than happy to be out of that experience....LOL!

I loved the dates...all of them...let them see how "the other half lives" Ha! ... I'm guessing that they were "sworn" to secrecy to not tell the others what they went through because each group seemed surprised at their tasks...and if the first group had blabbed about picking grapes and the second one had said they had to shovel coal...then the third wouldn't have been so shocked about mucking stalls...

Fruitbat

Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 06:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This show is choppy but it moves faster and holds my interest more than the painfully slow Bachelor/Bachelorette. I could have delievered a baby in the time it took Trista to hand out those damn flowers.

Now that it is down to 5 women we may be more satisfied and see Evans interest in these women. It seemed the first 2 shows ran on FF just to get to more meat.

Ladytex

Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 07:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Reality News Online is reporting that Evan also trained as a professional wrestler
Evan a wrestler?

Webkitty

Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 07:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yikes, Evan the wrestler.
I watch for the butler, his low-key, tongue-in-cheek comments tickle me. For me, he is the star of the show.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 07:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I would be curious to know what came first, the concept or meeting Evan and that being the inspiration. How would they find him if not through an agent. The premis is very hush hush so advertising to find someone of modest income would possibly tip their hand.

I know it looks slim that he really does or will have recently inherited money but I am not ruling it out. Something in last nights show made me go hmmmmmmm. He said he wanted a self sufficient woman because he was not able to support someone....."right now". It seemed to be added in a way that showed his reluctance to lie. This could certainly be that he has hopes of earning more. Anyone young man would, with his income especially.

In an interview he also mentioned that he did not like modeling and would probably return to construction. He would give acting a try if that presented itself but he was very offhand about it all. Modeling pays very well and he makes so little in construction that I find it hard to believe that he does not want more from this experience. He looked rehearsed.

And weren't there other choices that were better than Evan? He is awkward and not very convincing. I don't think production would have wanted someone that would raise doubts in the women so easily. Wouldn't they want someone who could pull off the sham impeccably?

This is all wishful thinking on my part. I may need to be slapped to bring me back to what appears to be a very uneventful show.

Webkitty

Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 07:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bat, I caught that "right now" comment too. Made me go ummmmmm as well. There HAS to be more to it. Something is not right here.

Merlin

Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 07:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If Evan can't pull this acting role off any better than he has so far, who would want to offer him another role?

He could be making this amount of money in his construction job only because he is working part time. Have they ever implied it was full time?

Evan could be making a lot more that is not being specified in his modeling. What a twist at the end to find out he does have some money after leading the viewers to think he doesn't.

Fruitbat, maybe Wink will show up and give you that slapping you want.

Crazydog

Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 07:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Heidi's face at the announcement of the Paris trip was hysterical. She was all "oh my god, that's so great" as her eyes and mouth widened. Then she remembered that she wasn't going and converted her look to an angry blank stare. Too too funny. I'm glad she's gone. She did make entertaining TV but that was cancelled out by the number of times I told her to shut up.

I agree they need to identify the women better. There were two he picked, Sarah and Alison, who I couldn't even identify.

I really dislike Mojo. I also dislike Melissa M. I don't think she looked like Princess Leia, I think she resembled Minnie Mouse on a bad hair day.

BTW, TVJunkie, I love your smiley with the pooping horse!

Brenda1966

Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 08:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I like Zora the best too. They did an interview with her on the local news and she said basically nothing.

I was so glad to see Heidi go. She's beyond bratty. Mojo was doing the hard sell and it was getting on my nerves. Do you think she asked him anything about himself? Oh well, not that he could have intelligently answered. :)

What is wrong with Alex? I thought she was okay on Trading Spaces (I prefer Paige) but she's horrible here. I can see why they cut her out.

I loved the roughing it dates. Too funny to see them freezing in the rain. I can't say I blame them for whining a bit.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 08:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Merlin, yes, he has already admitted to being an underwear model. Since the pictures are all over the internet, how could he not? So construction is part time to be sure. I have the feeling that construction is a job he has had in the past but not very recently. There is something off here.

I lauged audibly when he said he would like to give acting a shot. It is not easy to do and he has not a clue that it takes skill and training. ???!!!

Max

Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 08:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with Ryn that Alex's role seems to have been cut out and re-edited. The only place they use her is just before the necklaces are handed out and I think that's only because they can't use the butler there (he has to come in at the same time as Evan because he carries the tray of jewelery). It felt like they would have left Alex on the cutting room floor completely if they could have.

Heidi is amazingly full of herself. The bit at the end when she was sitting on the floor and the butler came asking if THIS was her suitcase was priceless! I LOVED how they had the butler saying, "too bad she didn't get to stay in France longer...perhaps her French would have improved." :)

And Fruit has the "Evan walk" description down pat! He looks like a big galloot when he walks. Neanderthal man at his best. I'm hoping he's not as dense as he seems. Perhaps THAT is part of the "act".

The Paris trip should be interesting. Parisians just LOVE American's who waltz through their city as though they own it. This group strikes me as the type who would go into a bistro and ask for yellow mustard to go with their sandwiches.

Merlin

Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 08:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
To tell you the truth, from what I have seen of how his thought processes work, I wouldn't want him near a piece of construction equipment while I was nearby.

It may be that he considers standing in his underwear an acting role. If so, that makes most men actors.

Tabbyking

Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 08:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
fruit, i laughed at the 'could have delivered a baby' in the time it took trista to hand out the roses! it took me 4 days to have the last one, and they finally sectioned me after 93 hours. i think they could have shot the entire show in the time it takes me to deliver! LOL
i like zora a lot, ever since heidi-ho tried to take so many dresses for herself and poor zora had to almost have a dress re-made and then get someone to change with her. it was like cinderella and the evil $lut sister. i think it will come down to the dark-haired gals at the end. does he go down to 3 this next time? if so, look for both brunettes to stay and one of the fairer-haired gals.
alex was on trading spaces for whoever asked, in case it wasn't answered elsewhere. she was never as good as (mindy)paige davis page. (funny how paige married a guy named patrick page! she is now paige page, lol)
it made no sense for the guy to act as if he needed/wanted a hardworking wife, because anyone who had millions would have paid help for what the women were doing. i could have had fun with that coal, though! i would have rubbed it on my face and pretended to be a dalmation...to see if the guy would laugh. or maybe started singing a 'coal' porter song, hee hee. in the manure, i would have just clarified, "there is a washing machine in the castle, right?" and if i were told yes, i would have just stepped right in it and started working and maybe started a road apple fight, or something. i would have taken some of the grapes and done a lucille ball "i love lucy" spoof on the stomping of the grapes.
if you have to do something to stand out, i would just have fun. i think a sense of humor is so important...but still, i don't like Bob on the bachelorette show, so go figure. it's his goony looks and his mean comments though--not his frantic-antics--that bug me.

oh, "heidi-ho, ma petite chou-chou, que'll disastre!!!...bon voyage!!"

Tabbyking

Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 08:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
merlin, let's not forget the underwear on the head, too...LOL

Fruitbat

Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 08:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
:) at all of you.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 09:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Who else thinks this guy may just inherit something from the Marriot family(they purposely used his middle name) or has won a lottery? Maybe that is where they found him.

.........long shot I know but what else is going on we can speculate about?..........

Grooch

Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 09:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Getting to Know ‘Joe’

He deceived 20 single women. But the star of ‘Joe Millionaire’ tells NEWSWEEK the truth about the show, his sudden fame—and those swimsuit shots

By B. J. Sigesmund
NEWSWEEK WEB EXCLUSIVE



Jan. 10 — Before this week, Evan Marriott was an everyday guy. Now people call out his name on the street, say “Hi” in restaurants and—oh, yeah—ask him to autograph pictures of himself in which he’s practically naked.

SUCH IS THE life of reality TV’s latest overnight sensation. Marriott, 28, is the star of Fox’s “Joe Millionaire,” a new weekly series that takes the conventions of “The Bachelor” and adds a twist. Like the ABC show, single women on “Joe Millionaire” vie to outwit, outsmart and outdress each other in an effort to land a handsome quarry as a husband. But there’s one big difference: the 20 women in the contest were told Marriott is worth $50 million, when he’s actually just a $19,000-a-year construction worker. (The audience at home is in on the joke.)
Ratings for the Jan. 5 premiere beat the debuts of every other new show this season. Of course, exposure does have its downsides. Hours before the program was even broadcast, the Smoking Gun Web site uploaded pictures of Marriott modeling some skimpy swimsuits in a catalog called California Muscle. But was he embarrassed? Please—this is a guy who put himself on a reality show. “They’re wonderful,” he says. NEWSWEEK’s B. J. Sigesmund got much more out of Marriott. Excerpts:

NEWSWEEK: How many weeks did you train to learn to fake being a millionaire?
Evan Marriott: I trained to ride the horse. I learned how to fence—though that was actually on a date. I learned about wine and etiquette and stuff like that. But you don’t train somebody to be a millionaire. That person is who they are … I took the $50 million lie that Fox threw out there, and I said to myself, “Screw the lie, I’m gonna get to know these girls, they’re all super hot.” I don’t know what red-blooded American male wouldn’t want to be in this position.

Have you ever dated anyone who had a lot of money?
I had a girlfriend when I first moved out here [Southern California] who was in the news industry. She did the weather for Channel 4. She drove a Porsche, and she lived in a house on the beach, and you know, she was a hot girl and we had a lot of hot times, but it wasn’t because she had a hot wallet.

This was a really big week for you. What agents have you heard from? Have any movie deals yet?
Well, I was approached last night at a premiere by another network about a movie they thought I’d be perfect for. I thought that was kind of shocking. My comeback is, “Gee, I’m a bulldozer operator. I can’t imagine why you want me for this movie.”

OK, I gotta talk to you about the pictures of you modeling swimsuits.
I don’t wear those things, I was just showing them off. But you know what I think? I think they’re wonderful. I’m a typical dude, bigger is better. I weigh 250 pounds in those pictures. And I feel like a toothpick right now. This girl comes up with a copy and asks, “Can you sign this for me?” That made my day. I was like, “Wow, I’m signing a photograph that I look pretty damned good in.”

How much do you weigh now?
I weigh about 210 now. And in that picture I weighed about 245 or 250.

How did you end up doing these pictures?
I was approached by a woman at Gold’s Gym in Venice. She said she had a friend who did this catalog, California Muscle.

You posed, and you earned $1,000 for four hours’ work. Did they let you keep the bathing suits?
'I never would have worn those Speedos around just to go swimming or anything ... I wear those Calvin Kleins, the ones that come low on your leg there.'
I never would have worn those Speedos around just to go swimming or anything, but, gosh, you know, they didn’t look all bad, at least I didn’t have a bunch of fat hanging over those, you know? I wear those Calvin Kleins, the ones that come low on your leg there.

Oh, are we now talking about your current underwear?
Of course, at the end of the day those things are hiked up your a—. But other than that, that’s what I prefer.

Did you know that those pictures were going to be released this week?
I told Fox that they could come out, and they said fine. And when they came out, like I said, I couldn’t be happier. I wasn’t shocked at all. In fact, I was hoping “Entertainment Tonight” would have shown them more, but they didn’t.

Don’t worry, they’ve been e-mailed all over the Internet. You had a lot of exposure.
Funny enough, the woman that had that one picture this morning where I’m in the Speedo, she told me, “My husband pulled this off the Internet for you to sign.” And I said, “Now that’s kinda scary.”

Had you watched the other shows in this genre? “The Bachelor” or “The Bachelor 2”?
Actually, I don’t watch reality shows. I don’t watch TV much. I watch basically sitcoms. I like “Frasier” and “Seinfeld.”

You must have watched “The Bachelorette” last night. You’re inevitably going to be compared with that show.



I wanted to, but I was at a premiere last night.

You’ve already gone Hollywood. Do you plan to go back to construction work?
I plan on returning to construction when this is all said and done.

Let’s talk a little more about that. Don’t construction workers make more than $19,000 a year?
You know what happened? I didn’t work the whole year. I had a deal with the guy I worked with where he just did a 1099 on me, and I did my own taxes. Because after September 11 last year, a lot of things kinda died, you know. Construction died as well.

Even in California?
Oh, yeah, I’m in the earth-moving business. There’s big money in that. A lot of people didn’t want to pay. So that’s what it was. It’s funny because people have asked me that: ‘you only made $19,000?’ I mean, well, if construction workers made more than $19,000 or were well-to-do, they wouldn’t get the blue-collar rap that they do.

Can you give me an estimate on how much you made in 2000 or 1999?
Well I was a bellman in those years. I only got back into construction in the last year and a half. I worked at the Regent Beverly Wilshire as a bellman.

OK, and what can you estimate you made that year?
God knows—I had tips, man, a lot of that was tips, dude.

So less than $19,000?
I couldn’t even begin to tell ya. I wouldn’t want to give you a figure because I’d probably be wrong. How much do you make?

I don’t have to say because I’m not on a reality TV show.
Well, this is reality, dude! What did you claim on your tax forms last year?

I’m the one conducting this interview!
Oh, c’mon. I’m just playing with you. I’ve got nothing to hide. I’m always poking at people. Hey, call again if you wanna talk, you just hit me at a bad time. I’ll tell you anything you need to know.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 09:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Groan.........and this is who they chose? I am finding it hard to believe they could not find someone more on the ball. This only confirms my suspicion that something is fishy. He wouldn't have made it past the first interview for anything!