Archive through October 10, 2002
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Hermione69 | Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 06:58 pm     I'm kind of embarassed to be the first one to post on the show tonight, LOL! A few observations-- Christi is way too emotionally invested for this early in the game. I feel like she is trying to mark him as her territory by talking on and on about how much she already cares about him. These other women around her are in it for the same reasons she is and she needs to remember that. Now that Suzanne is gone, the conflict next week will probably just be with someone else. She looked like she was going to have a nervous breakdown during the rose ceremony. I bet Brooke or Helene gets her claws next. Brooke is a cutie. I also really like Heather from Texas, especially how she comforted Brooke when Brooke was upset talking about her father. (I hope I am getting the names right). I like Gwen better than I thought I would. She showed a lot of consideration to the other women by not rubbing it in that she won the balloon ride. Aaron was really making out with Suzanne. I mean that was more than a kiss. I was a little disappointed in him that he didn't choose her after that. That looked to be a pretty mutual make out session with a lot of chemistry and the way he was running his fingers along her arm was intimate. It was a very lover-like gesture. I guess all is fair in this "game" but he slipped a little in my eyes for that. He also slipped a bit for his apparent willingness to believe Christi's opinion of Suzanne being less than genuine. I say apparent here because who knows what really happened! We all know that a lot of tape ended up on the copy room floor! I respected Aninidita's and Frances's opting out, but wish they had done so earlier in the game so some other women had a chance. Particularly Frances after pulling that stupid, "Do you like to dance" business last week. (That was Frances, right?) MHOs and all that jazz! |
Sbw | Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 07:44 pm     I had to watch it on tape, taped it and watched TAR. WOW! I wish Christie had taken a hike too. It was interesting when two women walked out at the rose ceremony, I wondered if they planned that together ahead of time. The commercial after the show said that they would be on the morning talk show (whatever the name of it is) with Aaron, should be interesting. They said next week was the most dramatic rose ceremony ever, but I don't see how it could get any more emotional than the one tonight. All those murmurs of "that isn't right", etc. I agree that Christie will set her sites on someone else, at least maybe Aaron's friends will be at the house to see more of it this time. Yep, Frances did ask the dance question. |
Avrey258 | Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 09:53 pm     I was sort of surprised by those murmurs of "that isn't right". I mean at least they told him they weren't feeling it. I think ABC probably wanted them to wait and tell Aaron at the rose ceremony to make it more dramatic. I don't think he was going to pick them anyways. Christy...hello, you just met the guy. Get a grip girl. And while I don't think it was right that she got called out in front of the group regarding the "eye roll", it was the truth. She is so jealous and seems very vindictive to me. I was shocked, shocked that Aaron picked her. She really looked like she was going to have a major meltdown. Not to dis to hard on her (Christy), but she look kind of old to me. I also liked the girl who was comforting the other girl in regards to her father. That was very sweet and unselfish. I wish Aaron could have seen that bit of tape. I really need to learn the names. |
Fabnsab | Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 02:29 am     Wow, that was something tonight...Christi is so catty, I cannot stand listening to her. I lost respect for Aaron tonight. I thought he wouold be a better judge of character than that. Oh well. I think Brooke is supercute. I am hoping for her and Gwen so far. btw, I have the best husband in the world. He brought me home a surprise tonight- the dvd of the first Bachelor season! I know he wanted to die buying it, but he did. How great is that? I would pay to see him in line with that. |
Mack | Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 06:16 am     From Aaron's comment at the end about giving Christi "second" chance my wife and I got the impression that he too thought she was coming on just a bit strong. If you look at the other nine ladies he kept Christi kind of sticks out as not in the mode...at least not physically. Unless she gets herself under control then I'd say Christi is toast next week. She wants Aaron too bad and a lot of people, both men and women, don't feel comfortable with that strong of feelings of "ownership" and "love" after such a short time. |
Fruitbat | Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 06:48 am     This show is not dissapointing me! I love all this drama. I am rivited to this tacky show, she says without apology. The woman I like is Heather. The one that asked he not give her a rose last. She is genuine and has a good grip on her wits. All arrows are pointing to Helene being the one to stand alone at the end. Whoever it is will be offered and accept the ring. I think there is some pressure to do that, knowing this decision is not irreversable. Christy? I am at a loss for words. She must be very embarassed watching herself. She will not get a rose next time and should not have last night. I just think after 9 roses he had run out of choices and production requested he keep her for more drama. (I am sooooooo right on this one, I just know it) The women leaving was good. They should have. He was not going to choose them, they knew it. There was no connection whatsoever. They left with pride in tact. Strong move. I did think Frances acted on the heels of the Indian woman. She was ready to refuse the rose but thought this a better way to go. |
Dahli | Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 07:07 am     Christi is one scary muchacha.... I know someone like her and there is a lot of emotional scarring right at the surface, I couldn't believe he kept her and let Suzanne go.. Suzanne reminds me of me LOL! so I really liked her! I thought he was gonna be classy about the double early exit but the when he said something like 'that proves my decisions are right so far' I was disappointed in that petty type of comment from him, like his ego isn't being stroked enough already, he's gotta make sure we all know he didn't like them anyways...no high road there |
Hermione69 | Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 07:19 am     If I am remembering correctly, Suzanne is actually the one who said on last week's show, upon hearing that Christi was Miss Idaho, "They don't have many women in Idaho, do they?" I know that was terribly catty, but it made me laugh. It could part of the source of the animosity that Christi exhibited towards Suzanne. I did not pick up on Suzanne feeling animosity towards Christi. I thought Suzanne acted with dignity, especially after Aaron did not choose her. Dahli, I agree 110% with your observation about Aaron having to get that little comment in after the two girls walked. He could have handled it with grace and humor and he didn't. If I was a man, a woman like Christi would have me running for the hills!! I like your theory, Fruitbat, that he didn't really care about the remaining women and ABC strongly encouraged him to keep Christi around for the drama! Fabnsab, yeah, your husband sounds great! That was a sweet gesture! BTW, who is that chick with the strange hair? Kyla? What was going on with that? |
Mack | Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 07:20 am     Think you're right on with your comments on Christi Dahli and Fruitbat. I recall he said something about there are "six" he's really interested in. Not sure who the four extras are, though I'm almost sure Christi is one of them. My wife and I are initially picking Gwen and the two Heather's to make it through the next cut. One thing for sure, this group is a lot more agressive than the first show. Very interesting! As for the two early exits. Yep...they knew they weren't going to make it and he knew they weren't going to make it. Saved some face by leaving early. It was kind of funny that Aaron made that comment....kind of a "well, I wasn't going to pick you anyhow"....certainly an ego generated comment on his part. We like him better than the first guy but he's also more "out there". We have the feeling the one-on-one dates are going to be very physical if he has anything to do about it. :-) |
Lauram | Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 07:20 am     Dahli: I would have to agree with you about his disappointing comment at the end. He really had a chance to be humble yet blew it. |
Hermione69 | Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 07:23 am     Mack, I am glad you are here, it is nice to get a man's perspective. I'm glad all of you are here! :-) |
Sbw | Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 07:34 am     If he ends up with Christie in the end..... he deserves her. He KNOWS how she can act, react. |
Rabbit | Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 07:51 am     HRH Fruitbat, Mum, you are, of coarse, absolutely brilliant. Heather from Texas is the favorite of the TVCH Royal Family. Mrs. Rabbit and I concur with Mum in every opinion and decree in her post. Prince Rabbit |
Kaka | Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 08:00 am     First, let me say, Christie!!! needy, needy, needy, psycho, psycho, psycho. It was painful to watch her last night. And I honestly believe that Aaron was not going to pick her, that she was a fill in for the one that left, Frances. He couldn't have possibly found her crying, neediness attractive in the least. |
Denecee | Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 08:09 am     I agree with all of you so I will try not to repeat. I wish Aaron would have said instead something like "Ok, does anybody else want to leave now?" or nothing at all. I still think he is a cutie but I sure didn't understand why he didn't keep Suzanne. Hmm..maybe they had a secret talk about hooking up in the real world. I do have to put in my two cents worth on Christi-psycho! She is one of those girls who tell people how they feel. I wanted to jump through the t.v. when they were at the table, Aaron had just got back from sucking face with Suze, and she started yelling/crying at the pretty Indian girl. I couldn't catch everything she was saying but she sounded like my step-daughter when she was 15 yrs old trying to get out of trouble. I could go on but I should probably get some work done. I'll check in later. Peace. |
Kaka | Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 08:19 am     One more thing, did Susanne remind anyone else besides me of Peg Bundy? And Kyla, please tame the hair darling. That's all. Thanks. |
Weenerlobo | Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 08:19 am     Not sure who to root for yet, really. I think Helene looks like the best option for "banker wife" because she seems comfortable in whatever situation/clothes/environment she's in. Aside from that though, I don't think we've seen any real personality outta her. Hermione - the chick with the weird hair - are you speaking of the blonde with the Medusa-type locks? If so, both me and my hubs were laughing! Christi is that type of girl who latches on immediately and won't let go. Yep, read that as "Psycho Stalker Chic." I liked her in the first show, but now she kinda seems like a mess. I was feeling bad for her, but she's starting to scare me. I didn't watch the first Bachelor and wasn't really interested in this one either, but now that I've seen these couple of shows I'm kinda looking forward to more - another reality show guilty pleasure for me. |
Mack | Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 08:26 am     I didn't know I was the only man here Hermione but thanks. As a behavioral scientist I'm really a Big Brother watcher but kind of hooked on a couple of other "reality" shows. I usually watch the first couple of shows to see if the dynamics are, or have the possibility to become, interesting. So far I'm "hooked" on B2. Interestingly my wife doesn't care much for Big Brother but she does like B2 and we watch it together. |
Grooch | Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 08:34 am     OMG! Rabbit is a prince, now? <thud!> |
Sugarpie | Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 08:40 am     Weenerlobo - ROFL - "the chick with the weird hair - are you speaking of the blonde with the Medusa-type locks?" My son said the same thing! I too taped this and watched AR. The drama is unbelievable. Did anyone else catch Christi giving Aaron the little wink near the end of the rose ceremony. I don't know if it was just the editing or if was in real sequence, but the way he grimaced and then she bowed her head was priceless. I kept yelling at the T.V. "cut her loose!", and I thought for sure he was going to and then he goes and gives her a rose! AAAHHHH! I thought the two women leaving when they did was a good move on their part because they had control that way. This show is fast becoming addictive. |
Dahli | Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 08:46 am     I agree Suzanne handled it with utter grace and poise, very cool gal that one. Does anyone else find Helen's voice awfully grating...? everytime she speaks or laughs I want to say breathe! go lower and pull it from somewhere besides the back of your throat!! That would be the spoiler for her if anything IMO |
Max | Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 08:54 am     Wow! I taped the show in favor of watching TAR and then stayed up way too late to watch the tape. Where to start? Okay, my favorite is Heather from Texas. Very classy, down-to-earth gal, it seems. Of course, since I like her best, she's sure to not be in the final two! (Amanda was my LEAST favorite last year.) Christi, Christi, Christi! This is a girl who seems to have some "issues." Maybe she read Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty a few too many times as a child and thinks they were non-fiction books. I don't know, but the WOOP! WOOP! of warning bells sounds loud and clear every time she is around. First off, who in their right mind sprays hairspray on themselves to help tan?! Of COURSE she got burnt! Don't even get me started on her feeling of "owning" Aaron after a few short days and probably a total of 20 minutes of one-on-one conversation with him. And for him to buy her story about Suzanne? I worry about his gullibility. If he can be that easily manipulated by a few tears and drama, then he deserves what he gets if he picks Christi at the end. Brooke from Alabama (I think that's her name). Hmmmm. Very cute girl. Sorta reminds me of Amy from BB3 in a way. But when she talked about her daddy being "away," it seemed immediately apparent that he's in prison (don't know if Aaron picked up on that, though). That was verified when she was crying about it in the bathroom. What FLOORED me is when Heather tried to console her by saying he might get an early release for good behaviour or something and she adamantly shook her head and said something like, "no way!" Then she followed up by saying she had NO IDEA what he had done and DIDN'T WANT TO KNOW! She's proud of him no matter what. Okay, is it just me or if your daddy was sent to prison with, apparently, no possibility of getting an early release, wouldn't you want to know what he was convicted of?! How could you NOT know? What kind of sheltered fantasy world would you need to live in to AVOID knowing???? Now, put together some of the pieces here....She said that her daddy had always provided her with money for her education, and so forth. She said he still did that. Okay, so I'm thinking maybe he got caught for embezzlement or some other "white collar" crime. But that doesn't gel with the lack of eligibility for early release. Let's look at Aaron. He's a banker from a family of bankers. Hmmm... I think she might be wise not to tell him about daddy dearest. I hate to sound like a prude, but if you are from a mid-western banking family, is it really wise to marry into a family where the patriarch is doing time? Especially when your blushing bride doesn't know or care what he did to land there? Inquiring minds want to know more! Kyla is the chic with the lion-mane hair. I don't know what she does to get it to look so poofy on top, but it looks odd to me. Maybe it's the combination of poof and heavy streaking. This season is definitely interesting. Some of these girls seem very enamoured of Aaron. He seems fairly down-to-earth, but I worry that the whole situation is starting to play to his ego instead of his rational mind. Most of the kissing that went on was pretty innocent, but with Suzanne, he was MACKING her! I, too, was surprised he didn't pick her. Maybe he figured the melt-down of he and Suzanne together (in a good way) wasn't worth the drama of a Christi melt-down during the rose ceremony. Anyway, his comments when the two girls left voluntarily did seem from an ego point, to me. We'll see. I definitely like him better than Alex! |
Conejo | Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 09:08 am     Aaron, Aaron, Aaron you need to cut Christi loose and head for the Hills NOW! This Chic has some serious insecurity issues and should be life flighted to the nearest mental ward. Also, I thought she looked pretty haggered at the rose ceremony. JMHO |
Hermione69 | Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 09:12 am     Max, you made some good points about Brooke. I think Aaron needs to be careful, not along the lines of holding the fact that her dad is in prison against her, but for the obvious emotional and psychological damage it has done to Brooke. Bless her heart. |
Denecee | Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 09:17 am     I think Aaron gave psycho a rose because he thought she might have a nervous breakdown right there on the spot if she wasn't picked. This girl was Miss Idaho? Most likily the producers said "Hey, keep her around for the drama." I feel kinda sorry for her but she needs a reality check. |
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