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Hermione69

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 08:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You skated past your competition!

Hobbs

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 08:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Edited by Hobbs. I couldn't do it.

Conejo

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 09:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You made that song your own! Good for you! This competition is all about having fun!

Lizadee

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 09:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Djgirl5235 as an employeee of 15 yrs here
I fill the same way about employees I work with and not just today
Fill very unappreciated by boss and these new employees who are getting better recoginition then myself
Who needs it !!

Hobbs

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 09:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You slipped up there in the middle. Little Pitchy. You got the job done.

Hotlantan

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 09:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
On her official website bio, Paula *claims* she was born June 19, 1963. But then it claims she did the movie "Junior High School" in 1978 at the age of sixteen. AFTER graduating from high school AND attending Cal-State Northridge. Other bios claim she was named head choreographer of the Laker Girls in the spring of 1980 - when she would still be sixteen, based on that 06/19/63 birthdate!

http://www.paula-abdul.net/html/biography.html

You do the math, because Paula obviously can't :).
Congratulations to her plastic surgeons and botox salesmen, because she does look good for her age! My guess is that in real life she is closer to 45 than 40.

Crazydog

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 10:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
She looks great. I think she looks exactly the same now as she did 15 years ago!

Tabbyking

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 10:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
her page called 'under my spell' has her bd as 6-19-62. more like it...let's see if we can find a 1961 anywhere LOL

Pagal

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 10:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
HOUSTON, Texas (CNN) -- An entertainment company owner who specializes in televised talent competitions has filed a lawsuit against the Fox Television Network and the producers of the popular show "American Idol," claiming the show's concept was his idea.

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Harry Keane filed the suit -- which alleges copyright and trademark infringement and misappropriation of his work -- in U.S. District Court Wednesday, said his lawyer, Ryan Bormaster.

In the suit, Keane seeks a temporary restraining order against the program and its assets, and asks that it stop airing immediately.

Next week is the final week of competition in the second season of "American Idol," which is now down to two contestants, Clay Aiken, 24, of Raleigh, North Carolina, and Ruben Studdard, 25, of Birmingham, Alabama.

Also named in the suit are two production companies involved in the show, 19TV and Freemantle Media; the show's creator, Simon Fuller; and Simon Cowell, the prickly judge whose record label gives a recording contract to the winner.

Keane's suit alleges that he came up with the idea for a show called "American Idol" in 1994 when he lived in Marshalltown, Iowa.

Bormaster said his client's proposals for the program included the entire production from concept to broadcast, including the initial national auditions of talent to the final 13-week television series, where celebrity judges and the viewing audience would vote on the final 20 contestants each week.

The proposal also included a voting system with viewers casting their ballots by telephone or the Internet.

The lawsuit says Keane applied for a copyright on the concept and even the stage design for his show in 1997, and then began sending out his proposals to investors and producers.

Bormaster said one of those proposals was sent to Fuller's company, Freemantle Media North America, Inc., and Thames Television, a Freemantle subsidiary.

The suit claims that Thames Television, under the guidance of Fuller and Cowell, produced the program in England in 2001, calling it "Pop Idol."

The show began on the Fox network in the United States in the summer of 2002, with the name "American Idol."

Bormaster said Keane didn't file the suit earlier because he wasn't aware of the show in Britain, and after the American version came out, he had to get his paperwork in order.

"He was moving around and didn't have his papers together," the attorney said of Keane, who now lives in Irving, Texas.

"When he saw the show... he saw his work on air," Bormaster said.

Fox and Freemantle Media did not immediately return calls for comment.

-- CNN's Karen Bonsignore contributed to this report.

Fluff

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 11:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL! I don't think Paula is attractive at all! I want to know what is under the layers of makeup. LMBO! Sorry, but ya'll brought it up first.

Prisonerno6

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 11:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"In the suit, Keane seeks a temporary restraining order against the program and its assets, and asks that it stop airing immediately."

Yea, like that's going to happen in the last week of the show.

"The lawsuit says Keane applied for a copyright on the concept and even the stage design for his show in 1997,"

You can't copyright a concept. You can copyright the documents that describe a concept or the artwork that details a set design, but you can't copyright ideas. That is, no doubt, why it says he merely applied for a copyright -- not that he actually received one.

"after the American version came out, he had to get his paperwork in order..."He was moving around and didn't have his papers together," the attorney said of Keane, who now lives in Irving, Texas."

For over a year? Gee, if I was a cynic, I might think he was waiting to file his suit at a time when it would get the most press. Oh, wait, that's right -- I am a cynic.

Hobbs

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 11:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL. If you wait until right before the final show to sue, you'll get the most money to drop the cease and desist order. But no. I'm being cynical again. He really didn't have his ransom note...I mean paperwork in order.

Hobbs

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 11:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Channeling me prisoner?

Prisonerno6

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 11:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
*snort* Now Hobbs, it takes time to backdate all that made-up documentation to make it look he actually came up with the idea. And to find a lawyer to actually take the case.

What am I saying -- the first reaction most people have when I tell them the goose egg on my cheekbone is from falling in a grocery store parking lot is how much am I going to sue the store for. They seem completely befuddled when I tell them I'd rather the store uses the money to fix the parking lot so something worse than a bruised knee, a sore arm, and a bump on the face doesn't happen to someone else.

Prisonerno6

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 11:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cynics of the World Unite!

Meme9

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 11:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This morning when I got up around 5am, I thought I was dreaming, and thought I heard the news report something about this. So, I didn't post it. It looks like I wasn't dreaming after all.

Grooch

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 11:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Here's a link to another story on this. In this article is the following paragraph.

<<Keene said the original letters are in envelopes he mailed to himself. They remain unopened and under lock and key, said his attorney, Ryan Bormaster. >>

I don't think you can fake a postmark. If this is true, AI might be in a lot of trouble.

Link

Nanarobin

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 11:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Simon was on Regis and Kelly this morning...he again blatently said that Ruben will win...

Will this prejudice ever stop...I want this to be a fair competition...for weeks now, it has been all about only one person, Ruben. He is the only one who is NEVER criticinzed for ANYTHING..being heavy, being one-dimensional, no movements, being croaky or hoarse, or the most blatent...for free advertising for the infamous clothing line '205' ?????????

I must admit that he does have talent in only an R&B manner....and he is a big ole goofy teddy bear but he is NOT and all around IDOL, IMHO.

I guess I wonder just how the TIIC will again attempt to slant the show (AND THE MEDIA COVERAGE)toward his winning in the 3 shows next week??? I just want this to be A FAIR CONTEST for him AND for Clay.....

Thanks for letting me rant here...NanaRobin

Hobbs

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 11:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
They have millions. It will be a quick payoff and done with. He only wants $300mil. They will settle for about half and everyone will be happy. If it was a matter of principle to this guy, money wouldn't matter.

There was another show a while back that had the same thing happen. It quickly disappeared. I can't remember what it was though.

Ladyc

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 12:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ruben has what it takes to be an all around american idol. IMO

Sadiesmom

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 12:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Grooch, with a computer, you can fake just about anything. I have a friend who does not like sending in original receipts on rebates, so he makes great fakes. It is a matter of finding the right paper and the right inks.

Prisonerno6

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 12:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And in the minds hundreds of thousands -- if not millions -- of other people, LadyC. :-)

Hobbs, Survivor sued the I'm a Celebrity show, but then dropped the suit after a US district judge ruled that since both shows combined elements of others, they couldn't really prove that I'm a Celebrity was a copy of Survivor. I'd say the same could be true here, since AI is so similar to Star Search and other talent shows.

Fluff

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 12:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nana, I think it is all reverse psychology, I really do.

I think Simon is saying that he wants Ruben to win, so that Clay voters will vote in super masses to prove him wrong. Just like last year, when he told Jim how horrible he was, and to get back at Simon, the public voted for Jim to make it to the top 10, even though he had less talent compared to his other competitors, in my opinion. I'm sorry, but knowing how many Clay fans there are, I see a Clay win either way, but I think Simon wants us to think he and the other judges are rooting more for Ruben's sake, so that Clay voters will seek revenge and vote for him like never before.

Essence

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 12:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Poor Ruben...
He may be getting lots of media attention, but he sure is taking a hit for it on the message boards. BTW, Simon said Ruben should win (not will) on Regis and Kelly. Clarification just in case Ruben does win so people won't be saying it was fixed (although I know the media will be blamed for a Ruben win.)

Hobbs

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 12:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Why don't we put Ruben, Clayton, Paula, Randy, & Simon all in a cage and let them duke it out just like the WWF. We would be able to see who stands behind who. Then it could be pay-per-view. They'll make billions! I'm sure the guy that is suing never thought of that and so he will have to drop the suit.

Sometimes my brilliance even amazes me.