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Jenhavins

Monday, April 14, 2003 - 07:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have to say I am glad Jill and Kevin are going to stick it out. He has never been in love and seems to really love her. He just needs to get away from his parents and try this on his own for a bit. She seems to love him too, but just not in front of a camera for the world to see. Some things we don't need to know. I hope it works out for them.

Cliotheleo

Monday, April 14, 2003 - 07:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
........ anyone else feel like we've been watching a bunch of actors all this time?

Anyway, I thought it was interesting that before the second hour there was a "strong sexual content" warning leading me to believe that there'd be honey moon scenes. ............. Notice that there was NO strong sexual content?

We were hood-winked! :)

Halfunit

Monday, April 14, 2003 - 07:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
^5 Jen

Tweety

Monday, April 14, 2003 - 07:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Do you think Jill would have acted differently if there hadn't been the separation for 2 days before the wedding?

Jedisan

Monday, April 14, 2003 - 07:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i feel JACKED!

Tabbyking

Monday, April 14, 2003 - 07:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
well, it isn't on here yet, but i am not surprised at tony at all...he has had the 'deer i the headlights' look for a few episodes now. and billie jean really seems as if she maybe takes a guy home from the bar whenever it's closing time and she doesn't want to be alone. she got pretty loose in vegas, and i would have been even better than usual with the cameras around! the 'party in my pants' and 'cheers, beers, and queers' talk in front of tony's dad didn't help much, either. she's a kid and still out of control. give her 6 or 7 years and she might be ready to settle down...

if the other couple ever works it out, i hope they live FFFAAAARRR from jill's parents...weren't her folks on "the family" as aunt donna and uncle mike?! LOL

Wilsonatmd

Monday, April 14, 2003 - 07:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, this was a first in TV history...the first reality show where NOBODY wins (even if BJ and Tony had gotten married, they wouldn't have gotten the money).....c'mon Fox, at least donate the money to charity....

Pamy

Monday, April 14, 2003 - 07:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for spoiling you guys!! I might have to watch to see that family Tabby is talking about!

Wink

Monday, April 14, 2003 - 09:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tabby I have a feeling that once Kevin's family sees tonites show and the pre-wedding dinner with Jill and her family as they discuss the "momma's boy" that those two won't have much of a future. Momma won't allow it.

Sherbabe

Monday, April 14, 2003 - 10:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I know this sounds funny, but, as the scenes were played out I thought the bride that said I don't was bit@h, but, I thought the groom that said I don't was being honest.
Maybe because I'm a mother of a son (age 15 only). Don't know........any analysts in the room.

Tabbyking

Monday, April 14, 2003 - 10:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i tend to agree sherbabe--tony has been looking scared for weeks now. i was pretty sure he wouldn't (and shouldn't) go through with it. the gay friend had me falling down laughing because he is so dramatic! a few episodes back, he locked himself in the bathroom and you could hear him boo-hooing because if billie jeanne got married, he would be losing his roommate! now he's upset because they didn't get married! go figure...
i was happy to hear xavier is dating and it doesn't look like ms. brittlecold has met anyone. surprise, surprise! not!

as for the bride, i was glad she said 'i don't' but i would have said no if she hadn't had i been the guy. her dad absolutely scares me, and jill being all worked up a couple of weeks back because his family wanted to know if she would pose for playboy again...it is my feeling that a woman who was interested in settling down with one guy and having kids would not be so insistent that she would pose again if she wanted to and it would be her decision alone. i thought, 'then stay alone, chickie!'
now, if these couples dated on the outside and discovered in a year or so they were right for each other, so be it.
pamy, unfortunately, 'Already Been Cancelled' has pulled 'the family'...that's why i am boycotting ABC. they ran 3 or 4 episodes and slam, bam...gone! but jill's mom looked just like aunt donna from that show! too funny.

Pamy

Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 05:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Tabby..I watch The Family and am boycotting ABC too(except for the few shows I like,lol)!!! I meant I wanted to see the family that reminded of you of Aunt Donna in this show. I watched it last nite and was rolling as soon as I saw the Mom and Dad!!!! The Mom and Donna could be sistahs!!! The Dad last nite made Uncle Mike seem mild! LOL (Hoping ABC keeps their word and puts Family back on this summer, ABC sucks!)

Ginger1218

Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 07:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have to say, I love almost all reality shows, but this one really upset me. I thought it was extremely cruel. I thought these people were a real joke. I was watching with my mouth open. The whole premise was stupid, but then they create this whole wedding scene, and at the last minute they both get dumped. I hated the whole thing and thought it was soooo absolutely ridiculous. And then watching Billie Jean supposedly heartbroken and crying was just too much.

Ginger1218

Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 07:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
And if Jill thinks this was rushing into things, why the hell did she go on this type of show.

John32070

Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 07:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Does anyone know where to find Jill's Playboy pictures online?

As to Tony and Billie Jean; did anyone notice a few weeks ago durring the counciling session at the end he had a priceless look on his face like he was sending them a telepathic message to plaease end his engagement? He was having big doubts about her even back then. I agree Billie Jean needs to grow up.

Tabbyking

Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 08:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
ah yes, i can still only relate pour tony's frightened look to a deer caught in the headlights...i think they had lust at first sight, and it may have developed into something had she had any class and not acted like a (cheap) bartender in front of his father!

jill went on this show for the publicity, is my feeling...i expect to see her pose nude somewhere soon. her parents look like something central casting sent over for walk-on parts in the sopranos!

Lizadee

Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 08:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have probably watched 2 episodes myself and when
this came on after The Stanley Cup Playoffs last nite I got suckered into it
This show was a crack up
Tabbyking (quote) Auntie Donna and Uncle Mike way too funny

Halfunit (quote) dude with fresh blackeye I was wondering the same thing also funny

Ginger1218 I think that is what they get. Why go on a show when you know what is going on and just wanna embarass yourself

Gay guy hilarious I couldn't stop laughing !!

Realfan

Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 08:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, THAT was a train wreck. UGH. I'm with Ginger. It WAS cruel. And almost too painful to watch. Almost. I still watched, though.

I do think Billie Jean is a drama queen, and I really did get soap-opera vibes from some of the scenes, which does make me wonder if they're not ACTORS. Especially BJ's upset scenes and Tony and BJ's talk at the end. It sounded scripted to me. A professional writer couldn't have penned better words for him to say (I know, I am one).

Maybe he just has a silver tongue? Hmmm....

Or maybe I just want to believe it was fake because it was so dreadful to do this to real people. Couldn't they have had a private altar or something where they meet and confess whether they want to be married, then get married the next day? Dragging the entire family up there was rude, too. And I kept wondering what the little flower girls were told. ("Aunt Jill is getting married--or maybe not.")

The Bachelor is hokey, but at least it tries to treat the participants with respect and dignity.

What is Fox's fixation on getting people married on TV anyway? They're the ones who came up with "So you want to marry a millionaire," too. And that backfired badly (though it did get them noticed!).

BJ really asked to get her heart broken. I can't believe how blind she was. I got the feeling throughout this that she would have glommed on to whichever guy America stuck her with and fallen "madly in love."

I felt bad for Kevin. But it was the smart thing to wait.

Funny how when the woman breaks it up, everything is hunky-dory afterward, but when the guy does it, all hell breaks lose. I think it's because traditionally the man asks the woman to marry him, so it's OK if the woman backs out at the last minute. Though that's NOT what happened here--it was a mutual blind-fest (tell that to BJ's drama-queen friend!).

Jill's dad isn't scary, not really. Just loud. His wife and daughter have him totally whipped. He shouldn't be a reason for Kevin to worry.

Tabbyking

Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 08:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
did you see the episode when they were at jill's dad's house? it was totally scary to me!!!

Realfan

Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 08:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
BTW, here are Jill's Playboy pics: http://www.battle.thongsdaily.com/Jill-Nikki-Gallery.phtml

(DON'T VISIT IF AT WORK!)

Daddy must be so proud of his little girl . . .

Realfan

Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 09:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, I saw that. But I still think he's all bluster. Very rude bluster. He made a big point of saying it was his house, blah blah blah, but he still was ready to welcome Kevin into the family to make Jill happy. No way would he have physically threatened Kevin, for instance.

Realbiz

Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 09:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
So, are we ready for Mr. Personality?? LOL

Realfan

Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 09:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bring it on, Realbiz! But Monica Lewinksy?? Ugh!!

It looks pretty funny.

Realbiz

Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 09:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I got a sneak peak from ET last night, Monica L just doesn't fit the image of a show hostess... Hope the show will end with a happy ending. Bet Fox didn't forsee the way Married by America ended... well saved them $500,000 in prize money.

Realfan

Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 09:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fox is a bettin' network. They were hoping they'd find people desperate enough to marry, but didn't manage it.

They needed to recruit women who are eight months pregnant and determined to be married first, gay men who are trying to prove they're not, people with green cards about to expire who want to stay in America--ya know, the really DESPERATE people. Not these photogenic Hollywood wannabes...

Maybe that kind of desperation lies under the Mr. Personality masks? Ha!

Tabbyking

Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 09:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
okay, i saw the jill pics. and now i know where the beachballs are that i like to take on vacation and i thought were stored in the motorhome.
all right. i am not a guy-- but what is so attractive about implants? if i wanted to see 'skin stretched too tight over something round stuck inside', i would look at my old pregnancy photos!

Twiggyish

Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 07:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Realfan, very true!

At first I thought this was fake, but Billie Jean's tears and grief looked real. It was painful to watch! Is this show an all time low for reality tv shows?

Jbean

Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 08:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i have to mention it here...do we have any young and the restless fans here? jill's dad on married.... looks like larry whorton from y&r only without the sprayed on hair. wtf? too funny

Kmjm

Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 10:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I couldn't watch this until tonight- taped it- and I felt so bad for all involved. The thing is that everybody except for Kevin (maybe), Jill's Mom and Billie-Jean and her whole gang of friends and family (all completely dysfunctional IMHO)were tremendously relieved and happy that the marriages didn't happen. And that is a sane response.

I'm ashamed that I was enjoying this show as a kind of train-wreck spectacle. Tony was really broken up and said at least twice- "I should have just gone through with it and made everybody happy." His tears were real. Billie-Jean is so sweet and so messed up- don't they do any basic psychological assessments on these shows?

Somehow I don't think they will be doing this show again. Well, at least I hope so. It wasn't really entertaining after all.

Crazydog

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 09:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I posted a bit up above but didn't have time to fully comment. I didn't watch the earlier episodes because I tried once and found it boring, but I really thought this two hour finale was great. It was a train wreck that made for good TV.

I didn't like Billie Jean (is not my lover - you know, she's about the right age to have been named after the song. Ugh.) But I did feel really bad for her. She was so exuberantly happy even if she was a little trashy. When she was screaming in the carriage, I was cringing, thinking that you can take a girl from the trailer park and put her in a palace but she'll always be a girl from the trailer park.

What was up with the gay roommate? (BTW I didn't know he was her roommate and he was gay until reading this thread.) What a loser. He shows up to his friend's wedding in a bandanna and with that long hair he looked like he just stepped off his Harley. Is she not close to her family that no one else (a father, a brother, an uncle???) could give her away? And why did Tony feel the need to ask this guy for "his blessing". It's not like this guy has any say or control over BJ.

Kevin sounds a little... slow. When he's talking directly into the camera it's as if he's trying to figure out just exactly what is this thing with the light on that he's looking into.

Willowbird

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 02:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am ashamed to say I even watched this show, but I did and I felt completely ripped off at the end. The ads that ran said something like "YOU VOTE, THEY MARRY!" I suspected no one would marry but the only people who lost in this situation were the audience! Billie Jean was lucky not to marry Tony. He absolutely didn't deserve her. Did anyone else get the feeling that he was possibly gay? I don't mean that as a derogatory remark at all, but something about him struck me that way. I would not watch this show again if they did bring it back.

Tabbyking

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 02:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
not gay, just wussy. i don't think any of these people (including the first episode when there were dozens of people) were really prepared to marry on this show.

Happymom

Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 11:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Crazydog, all 3 guys asked the fathers (or the roommate in Billie's case) for a "blessing." I think that the producers made this part of the show. Maybe they were under contract to actually ask for the blessing or they wouldn't get the prize $. It had to be some requirement because there is no way all 3 would have done it otherwise. mho.