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Essence

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 09:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Webkitty, you're not alone. I'm a Corey supporter also. I enjoy his performances, and yes I agree he can get a bit off tune sometimes...but none of them are perfect. People tend to excuse the imperfections in those that they like and bring them to the front in those they don't. I like his showmanship, and I am one of the few (I guess) that likes the higher notes sung by men.

Brenda1966

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 09:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't want to like Corey because of his bad hats, his early lack of respect for the contest, and his bad hair days, but I find that some of his performances are very enjoyable. He looks so comfortable performing. I can see why the young girls like him.

I also like high notes on men. I love Steve Perry and Joe Elliot of Def Leppard. I'd like to see Corey stick around a few more weeks. I need to see more.

Those I do not need to see more of: Kim C, Ricky, Joshua. I feel like I already see their capabilities and they aren't my pick for American Idol.

Realfan

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 10:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Put me in the camp that doesn't care for Kim C. I just don't. Ever since her early pageant princess camera-hogging behavior, I have looked at her suspiciously. I can't tell if she's genuine, so I find myself ever doubting that she is. I don't care for her voice, I don't care for the fact she has already been a professional performer. I don't think she has much more to show me, since as a pageant girl and a performer, she's been polished already by professionals. And I was really turned off by her smooching with the audience last week. She seems to me to be doing a Kelly impersonation, and doing it badly.

I haven't watched all of last night's show yet (does it really have to be a full hour? A half-hour was stretching it!). But I am already way sick of Paula complaining or being surprised about who shows up in the bottom three. Does it really matter? There will only be one winner, after all. (Oh, I see others have already pointed this out!! Yes, I totally agree. It's silly to go on about America getting it wrong at this point. Just a way to drag out the show to a full hour.)

We already know who the best singers are (Ruben and Clay), so I'd be surprised to see one of those two in the final three. But Paula acts like there's some huge difference between leaving ninth and leaving seventh.

My faves:

Clay
Ruben
Trenyce
Kim L
Ricky (borderline)

My not-so-faves:
Carmen
Joshua (was a fave before he turned country)

My dislikes:
Kim C.
Corey

Prisonerno6

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 10:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
For everyone who is convinced Kim C.'s tears are all an act...

What would you say if I insisted Clay's "Ah, shucks, you like me, you really like me!" demeanor was all an act. After all, an TV he acted like he was afraid of the water (oh, how cute...) but then I read in another thread here that he is supposedly a swimming teacher at the Y. So maybe his sweetness and light is all an act for America...

Brenda1966

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 10:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Prisoner, not an act, just a "me, me, me -- I almost got kicked off" response. Kim C's not talented enough to be that good of an actress. :)

I do think Clay is genuinely that humble. If he can make it through this and remain that humble then he is an amazing guy.

Realfan

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 10:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Not an act, just too much. An extreme, as Brenda said. I always get the feeling she's perfectly aware of how she is going to appear on camera, constantly thinking about making the right "impression." It's what she's been taught.

Early on, I was turned off by Kim's bio on the AI site, when her definition of "The American Idol" was "me."

In contrast, Clay is going to college to be a special education teacher. That's pretty special, IMO. It's heartfelt, hard work. So, yeah, at this point, I think he's genuine. He's a funny-looking geeky guy, who didn't grow up being told he was gorgeous and pretty and a princess, developing an attitude to match. (Well, prince! :) )

Walker

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 10:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I just want to say without mentioning any names that it's my belief that there is a lot of jealousy on this board when it comes to kimberly C
and im getting a bit sick of it..lets face it the girl is very attractive, sexy, outgoing and talented..lets get over it.

Grooch

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 11:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Huh?

Squaredsc

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 11:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
with you again ms. bat, crying=sad. btw, who is kim c?

Brenda1966

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 11:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope you don't mean me Walker. There's certainly no jealousy of Kim C. I'll admit she's gorgeous, sexy, outgoing (I'd describe it as a camera hog), but I beg to differ on the talent side. I think her voice is quite limited. She has a polished stage presence, but that's from years of practice in Branson and in pageants. I don't want someone who's been working in the business for 10+ years to be the American Idol. I want someone new and fresh, an undiscovered talent. And frankly, someone with more natural talent than she has.

Whoami

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 11:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Add me to the suspicious of Kim C's emotions. I've seen her literally squeeze her face into the camera shot too many times to think that is coincidence! At any rate, her early attitude in the auditions turned me off, and I've had a hard time trying to like her since.

Early behavior is the same reason I dislike Corey. His disrespect for the contest at the auditions turned me off. His sucking up to Paula (and her eating it up) makes me want to heave!

Love Rueben, Clay, Kim L as my favs.
Carmen, Rickey and Joshua I can take or leave.

Trenyce bugs me. She's good, and seems to be developing herself as she learns along the way. But can someone please tape her fingers down to her microphone!!! That is so bloody distracting, it makes me want to put her in my dislike group!

Brenda1966

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 11:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Forgot to add: America voted and Kim C. came in second to last. Does that mean America is jealous of her too? I think it means they see the lack of raw talent hiding behind the polished appearance.

Tabbyking

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 11:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
walker, not jealous. i just stated how i felt. everyone is stating how they feel. there is no right or wrong. kim c seems to be right in the thick of things a good deal of the time. she is just a 'little girl' and that's probably how things affect her. she wants to jump in and comfort, etc. however, there is a part of her that has been onstage for years (and is way old beyond her years) and i think part of her demeanor from having to be 'on' all the time is exaggerated sometimes. just my feeling!
also, i like her over-all. i was amazed she was in the bottom 3. i fully expected it to be carmen.

Emt911

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 11:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
My question is similar to some things I have seen voiced: How can Kim C be eligible for A.I. when she sang professionally in Branson for 5 years (or however long it was)? I thought only 'amateurs', or those who hadn't done singing for pay/as a living could compete for A.I. Someone "new".

I did not watch last year except for one or two times near the end, so I am not sure what the rules are.

Conejo

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 11:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't care for Kim C either - never have - never will! I don't think she should have been allowed to be a contestant with all of her previous experience - but I guess she's not breaking any of the rules for AI contestants...so be it. She is such a camera hog.....geeessssh.

Realfan, my favs are the very same as yours!

OK, we need to get rid of Kim C, Corey and Ricky and then start weeding out the others. JMHO FWIW

Prisonerno6

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 12:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
EMT, I think the amateur status referes solely to a solo recording contract. Lots of these people seem to have performed quite a bit, and some even professionally before AI, but none have had their own recording contract.

(Personally, I think it should be restricted to people with *no* experience in the business, the true "wouldn't have a chance without AI" type.)

Conejo

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 12:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Prisoner, I think your right about the recording contract. Then again, if it was only for people with *no* experience - how would they define *no* experience? (Church choir, school plays, etc)

Llkoolaid

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 12:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dahli, I think you are mistaking me with someone else, I haven't commented on Kim C. being sincere this week. I think she is a bit of an over actor and a yeller, but this is my first comment this week.

I think we all pick our favorites for differant reasons. I know the type of voice I like is a pure voice. I like it to sound clean. Clay has that, Kim Locke is pretty good too. I love Rueben for his his voice and his teddy bear personality (I am ducking). Don't you just want to hug him.

I really like Trenyce's voice sometimes but she isn't consistant. I get a negative vibe from her. She doesn't do it for me.

Honestly, the rest are just fillers to take up time. I like most of their personalities a lot but I really don't think they have the talent to win this.

Pantageas

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 12:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow! A lot of messages to catch up on from last night!!

Amy - the reason why you vote for your FAVORITE, and not for the WORST performer is simple. It's a contest engineered by a record company to find a new artist. If they let the public vote off the "worst" every week, it'd just show the public's disdain for the finalists they dismiss. Instead, they vote for their FAVORITES(regardless of talent) and TPTB create a fan base at the same time they create an idol. Ingenious, when you think about it.

Walker, Kim C. has been grating on people's nerves for awhile. She seems to take every opportunity to make herself the center of attention. Last night, after she was spared, she blubbered on Ruben, on Clay, AND on Corey. Do we really believe she was so desolate over Julia going that she needed consolation from 3 different guys? Then she was so close to Julia's camera mark during her final song that when Julia put her head back to belt her final note, she actually butted Kim C. in the forehead. Like my normally mild-mannered wife exclaimed, "OMG! Will you get the Hell out of her freakin' shot!! It's not all about you!!". :) As far as jealousy goes, I don't think that everyone who doesn't like a girl who could be considered cute is automatically "jealous" of her. I think she's a cute girl and a decent singer. With center-of-attention issues. And no more than the 8th or 9th best voice of the top 12.

Emt911, Conejo - the rules state that you cannot have had a recording contract. Perform for hire or make all the attempts at getting your foot in the door you want - as long as noone ever signed you to a deal, you're eligible...

Wcv63

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 12:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Walker must be channeling Tameeeeeka from AI season 1...."juss jealous" uh huh.

Actually I am liking them all a little bit more this week. No one did anything really egregious and I thought the famewhoring was much more subdued.

Yep. Still feeling the love. All in all...a "very special" episode of AI.

Whoami

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 12:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just had a thought regarding Kim C's camera hogging....wouldn't it be funny if, when she gets booted and does her bye bye song, the rest of the contestants come and hang all over her and cheese it up for the camera? You have to know they are noticing her actions as much as we are!

Conejo

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 12:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Who, can you just imagine the production she will put on when she does finally get the boot? OMG she'll have mascara all over the stage!

Tabbyking

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 12:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks, Pantageas. I knew Kim C had been paid for her work, but thanks for explaining that the 'recording contract' is the deciding factor...I appreciate the info. (I knew church choirs, etc. wouldn't count, but wondered about a paid job.)

Tabbyking

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 01:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hey kiddo, use your own computer. i don't want to get in trouble for emt911 posts put on under my tabbyking handle!
although I was interested, too!
love, mom
p.s. clean your room!

Realfan

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 01:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jealous? Why, when someone is pretty, is dislike of said person always put down to jealousy? That's so shallow and silly. Kim C. would probably like to think we're jealous. It's no doubt what she tells herself when people don't like her.

For one thing, Kim C. isn't that gorgeous. I think Tamyra is more beautiful, and I was all for her to win. Because I adored her voice.

Second, why would any of us be jealous unless we wanted to be recording artists ourselves? I don't. Can't sing anymore, not since my vocal chords had a mishap in my 20s.

Third, if I was going to be jealous of any celeb, it wouldn't be over a wannabe recording artist, but someone successful (but I'm not jealous of anyone I can think of--envious of their wealth, but the fame? Ugh.)

Fourth, American Idol is about personality and popularity as much as talent and looks. Some got it; some don't. For a lot of us, Kim C. doesn't.