Archive through May 28, 2003
MoveCloseDeleteAdmin

TV ClubHouse: Archive: American Idol (FOX): Miscellaneous Gossip (ARCHIVE): Archive through May 28, 2003

Tishala

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 10:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
*nods in agreement at Marysafan*

I loved the Redd Foxx joke Starr told about the "go back to Africa" line: ""Now what an I gonna look like in Africa with a $500 suit?" LOL.

Texannie

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 10:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Loved that joke too Tishala! Hermoine, that is just sick, as someone who vividly remembers Kennedy getting shot..it ain't the same!

Sadiesmom

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 10:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I stand by what I said. That kind of e-mail should be reponded to, gett their IP and contact that person's provider. That will certainly affect their behavior.
I let a neighbor's kid use AOL at my house. Had to take his e-mail priviledges away from him when he ad me booted because he wrote an offensive e-mail to someone. He learned very quickly that you are not really anonymous and lost chat and e-mail privledges. I think it is important to have that followed up upon.

Marysafan

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 10:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I emailed Starr Jones and invited her to stop by here if she ever gets a chance.

Seamonkey

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 11:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What I don't understand is the people who tried to vote for an hour, or 25 times, stopped and then have been crying about the results? I know I voted for the entire three hours and had I quite after 25 tries Ruben would have gotten 0 votes from my phone.

Seems like some people need a "life" and I don't mean Ruben or Clay.. they definitely have lives and I'm happy for both. I just wish I'd hear some good news for Kim.

Llkoolaid

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 11:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Me too Seamonkey. On the show that Kim was voted out there was only something like 4% between 1st and 3rd. That sure seems like a lot of fans to me. I for one would love to hear more of her.

Pagal

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 02:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Can someone update me on what happened with Starr Jones? TIA!

Pagal

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 02:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Found it! Nevermind!

Nanarobin

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 02:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I as an older AI fan and do appreciate having others come out of lurkdom to post--young or old at heart (if not in body!!!!) I have found it so amusing that I am not alone if being smitten with a guy younger than my own son...and loving every minute of the 'headiness' (Herm's word !!) of my obsession of the moment.

Perhaps we need to start an Aiken Anonymous Club as time goes on. I found a dictiionary made on another site that is hilarious...a bit long to post here..but made up words or play-on-words.

And for the other side of the vote (or those with dual feelings) a Ruben Anonymour Club

Keep the opinions coming, folks...but we all (ME included) need to be polite....and more importantly be respectful as "WE AGREE TO DISAGREE".

I do love the diversity of this board..but WITH LIMITS policed by our own mods. {{{{Thanks to them all for the efforts}}}}

hands

Nanarobin

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 03:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have to add....that I also watched The View this morning BUT only until I was soooooo disappointed with their comments on not only Clay but on reality shows as a whole. I was so angry that I actually yelled at the tv and turned off the show. Not sure I will ever watch View again!

In case you did not notice, the day Ruben performed, Starr Jones totally disappeared from the set right afterward for some reason..to fawn/gush/whatever over 'her' Ruben perhaps??--which is her option as a celebrity.

I am sorry that Starr got such hate mail BUT I am also sorry that View had to call Clay's not being on View 'refusal' ... our guys have an exceptionally way too hectic media schedule, while simultaneously trying to get into the recording studio in NYC. Surely TPTB are going to give them some rest asap..that is the price of celebrity in this day and age!!!

Max

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 03:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
re·fus·al ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-fyzl)
n.
1. The act or an instance of refusing.
2. The opportunity or right to accept or reject something before it is offered elsewhere.


Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.


Refusal is a very correct word. Your connotation of the word is negative, but that's not necessarily implied in its usage.

They extended an invitation. Clay declined, refused, said no. However you want to phrase it, he turned them down. Doesn't really matter why. The context of them saying he refused was to point out that they were not showing favoritism to Ruben; they invited both Ruben and Clay and only Ruben accepted the invitation.

As for Starr gushing over Ruben, I'm sure she did. She thinks he's great as do a lot of other folks. If you were in her shoes and got a chance to gush over Clay, wouldn't you do it? Heck, I'd gush over either one of them 'cause I think both of them are darned talented. :)

Maris

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 03:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What I find bizarre is that people get so worked up over a show and not only that the two finalists will probably end up with much the same deal, and much the same success. Yet you read all these little digs against one contestant or the other. Both guys seem pretty happy with where they ended up, neither one thinks they are better than the other and none of the contestants have cried foul.

Seems to me like the fans could take a page out of the winner and runner up's book. Kudos to to both Clay and Ruben. They are both young men that their mothers could be proud of. I think some people should step back and take a breather and recognize that both young men ended up winners and are happy.

Kady

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 03:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The ladies read an e-mail from a person who said since Ruben was on that if the same invitation wasn't extended to Clay then that person would think they were predjudice. They just wanted it known that an invitation was extended to Clay and he declined. I don't think Ruben was actually a scheduled guest or it would have been promoted more for the ratings factor. Ruben was scheduled to appear on Regis and Kelly and I think just did a walk on appearance on the View cause he was in the same building. Here's my thought....someone asked them to come on the view, Starr's a big fan yada-yada. Ruben said sure why not? Clay said aww man, I'm tired you go ahead cause Starr loves you, it would make her day. In my world, thats what happened. :)

kady will admit to watching the View everyday at work

Nanarobin

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 03:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris..thanks for the calming down post.

I did need that!! I am sooooo guilty here...I have not been this involved with a show/characters in my life!

As a mother, I wholeheartedly agree that our guys mothers are proud..I think earlier I commented somewhere here that they both take time to be polite and Ruben often uses 'yes, ma'am' quite a bit. Both are humble and so appreciative for the opportunity of celebrity. Clay mentioned that he intended to start a foundation. As Jeff Gordon said they both won....and they so graciously share the spotlight when appearing together...highlighting their joint admiration for one another....AND trying to be humble.

May they both stay that way!

Texasdeb

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 04:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sure missed my AI fix last night! Even missed the non-stop 2 to 3 hrs of redial! What an addiction I developed over AI. Oh well, I think I'll watch Fame which premiers tonight for 2 hrs. As much as I like having both Clay & Ruben in the spotlight (just can't seem to get enough of those 2) I feel they need a couple days to re-coup. I know, why not give our 2 guys a rest & bring Kim L. back for a couple of days to fill in the gap. That would sure work for me.

Fabnsab

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 04:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought AI and the bosses owned Clay and Ruben for a while and they(bosses) made the decisions where the finalists would be and what shows they'd be on. It seems to me that that would make sense. If I am right, The View interview wasn't For Clay to refuse but the agent or whoever was put in charge of them.

Tishala

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 05:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well yes, Fab....in literary studies we call that metonymy....kinda like when they say on the news "The White House today said..." We realize the White House itself didn't speak. It is just a trope.

Nanarobin

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 05:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok...I am back....great gossip on tonights ET show (Entertainment Tonight which is syndicated). They review short clips of Clay on the 2 shows this morning..and Ruben last night. Caroline Kennedy was also a guest on R/K and said her family's Idol-obsessed!

Ruben and Clay to be ON THE COVER OF US MAGAZINE for next week...due out Friday. Story to examine the friendly rivalry between the two.

They noted that they both have singles due out June 10..and that Clay is ahead on Amazon.com.

AND Ruben says he is going to get a personal trainer to get in shape.

US author says Clay is first in makeup chair to get his freckles covered up!! LOL

Set the tapes for the first 10 min or so of the show if you need a p.m. Clay/Ruben fix!! LOTS of info in a few short minutes!

Prisonerno6

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 06:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tish, that's the second time I've had to look up a word you've used. Trust me, that doesn't happen very often. :-)

Shanga

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 06:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that Ruben and Clay are two very talented young men and the best that we can do is wish them well and let all of the hoopla go. The winner has been chosen and he and the runner up are very happy where they are. Let's all get along.

Llkoolaid

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 07:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey guys, if you liked AI, don't miss Fame, I just finished watching it and it is awesome. I like it every bit as much as AI.

Pagal

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 07:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the right 3 were put through for the next round - how about you Llkooaid?

Llkoolaid

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 07:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes definately, if you look, they are the ones I picked. They were all good but these 3 really sold it to me.

Llkoolaid

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 07:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
We shouldn't take over this thread with talk of Fame but I just wanted to let everyone know how good it is.

Texasdeb

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 07:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Llkoolaid, I'm with ya! That "Fame" got me. I think I got addicted! Anyone else see it?