Emeraldfire | Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 08:32 am     You will love it Hermione! |
Prisonerno6 | Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 09:02 am     "how people are taking those few and painting all the Claymates with the same brush." Since I'm the one who made the comment about "something to prove" in the Ruben fan thread I just want to point out that I very specifically said I *SUSPECT* (in other words, my opinion) *SOME* (in other words, not all -- not even most)Clay fans have something to prove. I even had a little smilie face in there somewhere. Not even close to painting all Clay fans with the same brush, just an observation made about *SOME* fans. As for not recalling any incident where where anyone belittled a Ruben fan, you yourself, Hermione, made a dismissive comment about "Ruben fans needing to put down Clay just because they're Ruben fans" when I dared to say something negative about some attitude I saw in Clay. I found that to be rather belittling, as if my opinion of Clay didn't count just because I preferred Ruben. I guess from now on I'll have to keep my opinions about *SOME* things I've observed for fear of offending *ANYONE.* |
Readonly | Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 09:07 am     They're playing "This is the Night" right now on the radio. Don't you just feel the love!!!!! |
Iscreamer1 | Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 09:44 am     You know, both guys would be really upset if they knew this kind of banter was taking over the boards. Lets just love the music and love "our" boys and enjoy watching them both succeed. I have been listening to the radio much more than I normally do and I still have not heard either song. I get my CD today so I'm excited about that!!! |
Wcv63 | Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 09:56 am     Herminone, I only addressed my comment to you because your post is the one that contained the observation not because I felt like you were in any way making the comment yourself. I absolutely did not misinterpret and more than know that you are indeed a "true Clay fan"! As for friction within the different fan camps...unfortunately it has happened, but from my own observations by a minority of the fans on both sides. Certainly this is not indicative of the majority. And this board certainly ranks much higher on the "respect one another" meter than many of the others out there. I have to say that Clay truly makes me want to be a better person. In that end, I have let remarks that I may have responded to defensively in the past just go by. What is to be gained by any dissension? To promote goodwill one must generate goodwill and sometimes this means saying nothing. Much success to two talented young men!! Now Clay and Ruben fans get out there and get their singles...they are on the shelves now! |
Babyjaxmom | Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 09:56 am     I just checked Amazon.com's Bestsellers list this morning, and Clay is STILL at #1 (where he's been ever since the show ended). Ruben has dropped to #10. Something had to be wrong with that voting system!!! Either that or his fans have abandoned him already . . . |
Tishala | Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 11:25 am     Or maybe Ruben fans buy their CDs at stores like Tower, Virgin, Wal-Mart, Target, etc. instead of on the internet. Just like they don't establish thousands of fan sites on the internet.... |
Ladytex | Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 12:50 pm     Exactly!! |
Monkeyboy | Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 01:00 pm     I heard This is the Night last night when I was driving to work! I bought the single after work because the song was stuck in my head. |
Hermione69 | Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 01:17 pm     |
Twinkie | Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 01:22 pm     Clay and Ruben are on Oprah today!! |
Hermione69 | Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 01:27 pm     Prisoner, and anyone else, when I posted what I posted this morning, I was reacting to the general feeling I got. I couldn't even have told you what specific words came from which specific people's posts. It all just kind of flowed out of me. I guess I feel just as defensive reading some of the comments in the Ruben thread as y'all do reading mine or some other people's comments in this thread. We really need to just agree to disagree and remember how easily things can be taken the wrong way in this forum. As someone said above, Clay and Ruben would hate this bickering. I apologize for offending you today or at anytime in the past. Sometimes my temper flares up. This is a hot area because people are very loyal to their favorite, and it was a very close race to the finish. I truly do wish nothing but the best for Ruben. I really am sorry. I feel very bad and truly don't want to chase anyone away. |
Monkeyboy | Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 01:29 pm     Setting my VCR..Thanks Twinkie! |
Snoopsmom | Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 01:48 pm     Nanarobin, read your post about the over recording of the choir on BOTW and agree totally. I stopped at Walmart on my way to work to pick it up. Got to work late because they hadn't loaded the shelves yet. Popped it in the CD player for the rest of the drive and was so disappointed. I like TITN much better, just because I could hear Clay. I ended up picking up Ruben's CD as well, and the new Luther. Since I made the poor clerk open the boxes and dig them out, it was the least I could do. Just watched Clay on Oprah. He made me smile and tear up at the same time. So good to see him again. Can't wait for the tour to get here. |
Snoopsmom | Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 01:54 pm     Yikes, Justin is performing on Oprah. Lots of loud background vocals and music. He is AWFUL! I'm actually embarrassed for him after the sheer, natural great voices Clay and Ruben have. Not in the same league at all. |
Twinkie | Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 02:19 pm     I agree Snoops. It was pretty embarrassing. I was very happy to hear that Clay will be on the cover of Rolling Stone which comes out on June 20th. |
Iscreamer1 | Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 02:57 pm     I just got my CD and I also agree with Nana and Snoop. BOTW is way over produced. I think they rushed to get it out. TITN is beautiful, it gave me chills and reminded me how truly special his voice is. |
Watching2 | Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 03:14 pm     Just wanted to let ya'll know there is a poll on AOL asking people who will be number 1 in the market. I was surprised at the results since Ruben was always #1 on their polls during the show. So far, it has Clay at 60% and Ruben at 40%! I missed the beginning of Oprah and tuned in to find Ruben singing. Then they brought out Clay. Did anyone pick up the shot of the woman wiping tears from her eyes when Clay was singing? Almost like the old Beatle days! I was thinking after, "hmmmmmm....Clay on the Cover or ROLLING STONE and Simon worried about marketing him?" He has to be eating crow now. It's good to hear the guys say they really like him and he's a nice person and it's really great to see how supportive they all are of one another. I agree, Justin sounded terrible. I'm worried if they've over-produced BOTW on the single, what they might do to his CD. I didn't like Kelly's single either at first, esp. done live, but I now like it when I hear it on the radio. I'm so glad I could at least see part of the show and of course, the most important part for me - CLAY! |
Iscreamer1 | Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 03:33 pm     Commercial, they just showed the photo shoot. I am sitting here with a grin from ear to ear. He is just so cute and so special. |
Tabbyking | Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 03:39 pm     we won't have our clay cd here for another week or so...but even if BOTW is over-produced, we can all say years from now, 'i had clay's very first solo CD!' and the grandkids' eyes will open wide in wonder that we were so cool LOL ;>) |
Daisymae | Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 04:38 pm     I watched Oprah too. I saw the shot of the woman with tears, I didn't miss a thing. lol. Clay is so darn cute & has the most beautiful teeth. I love when he winks (even tho Simon didn't like it). His Mom is soooooooo pretty too. I can't wait for RollingStone Mag. to come out. Don't know when I'll get my CD from Amazon. I got so excited watching the show, it was great. |
Tagurit | Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 04:45 pm     I too watched Oprah today. I thought both Ruben and Clay sounded great. I have to agree with others and say that Justin just didn't do as well. It seems that both Clay and Ruben still can't get over that they are so famous. It was great to see. Has anyone visited - www.clayton-aiken.com/? (Sorry I am a moron who can't do links ) For those that haven't I believe that you will enjoy it. There are lots of photos and LOTS of music to listen too. There are several demos that Clay has done too. It seemed to me that they might have been done before AI. |
Texannie | Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 04:56 pm     Posted this at the Ruben/Clay site, but thought it was just too good not to post again. ;) Was watching ET tonite and they were doing a story on Clay and Ruben on Oprah...it was too cute, showed Clay singing and in the audience Ruben was mouthing the words along with him! LOL |
Bettyrubble | Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 07:19 pm     I ended up getting 2 of Clay's CDs. One for my daughter and one of my own. I have to agree that I think BOTW is overproduced with the choir. The end just didn't give me the chills that the live version did. Now I love TITN! I missed the first 15 minutes of Oprah so I didn't see hardly any of Ruben but I caught all of our boy Clay! Isn't he just a doll! I haven't bought a Rolling Stone mag in years but I'll be getting one on the 20th! |
Wcv63 | Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 07:46 pm     The "After the Show" link is up on Oprah's site if you want to go watch. Lotsa cute stuff including learning that Ruben plays the tuba!! I don't get Oxygen so I am unable to watch the "After the Show" except on the web. I know that it is a chopped down version but still worth the effort. |