May 14 episode, Wednesday
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May 14 episode, Wednesday
Brenda1966 | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 09:56 am     I thought Christina come off looking bad again and didn't own up to her behavior, other than an apology. Liz looked bad too! I agree Beach that her trying to explain it was weak. Tina Fabulous still seemed fabulous. Yes, she's young, but she's right that she didn't talk bad about the others or put anyone down. She was just her ornery self. I think she's just slow to warm up and that doesn't work with a dating show like this. If Andrew picks Kirsten I'll be so disgusted. I'm glad this finale is on Sunday so it doesn't interfere with the AI final. |
Crazydog | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 10:02 am     There is an interview with Tina Fabulous on TVGuide.com. Among other things, she gives us her tips on how to be fabulous: 1) always wear high heels, 2) always wear sparkly jewelry because it makes you feel good about yourself, and 3) always wear classy fitted clothes that show off your body. She also seems a little bitter but is trying hard to act like she's not. She makes fun of him for crying. Yep, I'm glad she's gone. |
Needmylifeback | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 10:18 am     I think the person who was in the limo with Tina who changed her mind about Andrew after she heard he was a "Firestone" was KIRSTEN! After reviewing the tape...it appeared that when Tina said "you have to figure that one out for yourselves" didn't look at anyone in particular...and since everyone there was kind of laid back about the comment...I figured it was someone not there. Because if that person was sitting there ...they probably would have spoken up. "That's me!" and then gotten a chuckle out of it. Christina still doesn't have a clue! She wouldn't admit that she was slamming the others because she was playing a game. I think Sunday night will show Jen being herself and Kirsten being who she thinks she should be protraying to "get" the approval of Andrews family....It looks like to me that his family is very attuned to figuring it all out! |
Realfan | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 10:21 am     Not enough time spent discussing (or dissing) Kirsten, or asking the girls who they would like to see "win". Probably because they want to paint it as a fairytale and Kirsten may very well win. There was a promo clip that had three girls talking about how if he doesn't chose Jen, he's stupid. Why wasn't that in the actual show? I did get a kick out of the promo for sunday's show that seems to imply his family ain't too taken with one of the girls--my bet is Kirsten. Which of the two would YOU want to take home to your family, warmhearted mature girl or bratty, self-involved valley girl? <<Tina (not Fabulous, the other one) made an interesting comment that we are going to have to figure out - that someone in her limo that didn't think Andrew was her type suddenly changed her tune when she found out he was a Firestone. (so who was in the limo with her?) >> My guess is it's Kirsten, and that' s why she didn't want to say. Otherwise, why not say? |
Crazydog | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 10:29 am     I agree. I also think they are talking about Kirsten. Why would Tina even bother to bring it up in that way if the girl who had said that had already been rejected? She could have teased whoever said it, and then they would just have a laugh about it. Kirsten is the golddigger. |
Mware | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 10:37 am     I think Needmylifeback makes a really good point about how Andrew's family will be attuned to whether these ladies are "playing up" to them to get their approval. This family has had a lot of money for a long time. I'm guessing they've become pretty good at sniffing out the fakers who only want to be around because of the money. |
Jedisan | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 10:45 am     I am now completely convinced that Jen will be "the chosen one". They made Kirsten look awful tonite... They did not show ANYTHING negative about Jen (or i just missed it) I also think that Kirsten is the 'gold digger' that they are talking about. PS: for what it's worht, i really hope he picks Kirsten - they are both yucky people. Jen deserves better than him (from what we have seen of her) |
Julieboo | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 10:54 am     Can someone recap the clip at the end where Andrew talks about Kirsten. My tape ended right when he was talking about Jen. (I think the show ran long.) Did he go on about K as long as he did about J? Also please give any thoughts comparing how he talks about each of them. And lastly, can someone recap the scenes for Sunday? Thank you so much!!!! |
Mlt | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 12:01 pm     Beech, just to confirm: <g> is my way of saying that I'm grinning while typing a statement. Sorry for confusing you. |
Mlt | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 12:26 pm     Fab, I think the girl that was missing for the show was Kristen (not Kirsten, but Kristen). |
Beachcomber88 | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 12:29 pm     I agree that the family will probably sniff out Kirsten as the golddigger. It kind of leads me to believe that Andrew wants to choose her. He looked really upset in the preview clip. Probably was seeking his family's approval and then they say no. It'll be interesting to see if he really needs their well-wishes to make his decision. My bet is no. I'm not sure if this has been discussed, but did anyone see the little article on Andrew in one of those weekly mags? I think it was Us or People. They showed Andrew in his bachelor pad that he rents with a roommate. The general gist was that he lives much like someone who is right out of college. IKEA sofa, some bottles of Firestone wine, dirty laundry - but really nothing like I would have expected. With all his family wealth, I would have thought that he would own some luxurious penthouse somewhere. Surprising - and definitely not very Firestoney. |
Marymc | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 01:24 pm     what killed me about the preview for next week was when they said something about the firestone lifestyle being one that jen never dreamed of and kirsting always hoped for....VERY telling. and what about BOB being the next Bachelor??? i can't wait to see that one.... |
Abby7 | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 05:14 pm     When Andrew's family member (his brother? I'll refer to him as his brother just to make it easy) and Andrew were talking outside it was evening. I checked to see what they both were wearing. I'm stretching it here, but I was thinking MAYBE they had the talk after dinner. We also see Andrew with Jen at dinner. He's wearing a blue/grey sweater with a black shirt underneath. You get a glimpse of his "brother" at the table,not smiling,not looking too enthused. Anyway, outside with his brother, Andrew is wearing what looks like a blue sweater (may or may not be the same sweater that he wore with Jen). The black shirt is not underneath it though. So, my above rant proved nothing...but just shows how much I was looking in to trying to find out who his "brother" was talking about! (wondering if that talk took place after dinner). lol My only thought is this: I can't imagine how Jen could give off such a bad impression off the bat, but I can imagine Kirsten giving off a bad impression. He could only be talking about Kirsten. At the end, they show clips of Andrew holding each girls hands at the final rose/proposal ceremony. There's really no way to tell who he picked....but I did notice Andrew had that huge grin on his face at one point, while with Kirsten. How does he go from that big grin to "it breaks my heart to not give you a rose" (or whatever he's going to say? Just some thoughts. Sorry for the rambling. |
Abby7 | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 05:15 pm     Did Jen say "I hope Andrew knows how much I love him" just to throw us off? If he picked her, I'm sure he would know. |
Abby7 | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 05:21 pm     Julieboo: Andrew did seem to go on about the same for each girl. He seemed to emphasize his comfort level and being able to be himself with Jen. With Kirsten pretty much the same, just said differently. They showed each girl going to the Firestone home. They each said they felt the visit went/would go well. Then the talk between Andrew/his "brother" that I just mentioned above. |
Mlt | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 06:43 pm     Okay, two thoughts. First, I noticed in the history type clips they did on each girl for the Women tell All Special, Kirsten said that it was 'like love at first sight.' Yet it seems to me that I read an interview with Andrew that said that he asked his 'sweety' when she fell in love with him and she said that she fell in love with him when they met his parents. (Don't know if that means anything, but thought I'd share. Unfortunately, I don't remember what article it was.) Second, there is one clip of Jen in the previews for next week where she has an incredible smile on her face and a light in her eyes that I don't think I've seen before. It's just shown for a second, but... (Well, I'm not exactly sure what I'm trying to say <g>). |
Meme9 | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 06:54 pm     Was it a twinkle? |
Mlt | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 07:08 pm     Meme, it was definitely a twinkle. |
Babyjaxmom | Friday, May 16, 2003 - 03:02 pm     Bob's going to be the next Bachelor! Yeah! What a sweetie he is! Can't wait!  |
Kimmo | Friday, May 16, 2003 - 11:47 pm     Does anyone here read the Television Without Pity recaps of this show? I just read the one for last actual (fantasy suite) episode (since I didn't get to watch), and the way it was written, they make it seem very obvious that Andrew is going to pick Kirsten. They totally pick apart the episodes on TWoP, so I wondered if people thought theirs were pretty close readings of what happened, or just very biased because they are always so snide/snarky in the TWoP recaps. |
Mlt | Saturday, May 17, 2003 - 05:31 am     Kimmo, I saw the article. I didn't read much into it, though. I guess it comes down to my naturally sceptical nature - expecting that ABC is going to do anything and everything to try to throw us off at this point. But maybe that's just me <g>. And I think you need to balance that article out with this article: http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/entertainment/television/5874397.htm Now why would Jen feel scared when thinking about the other failed reality show relationships if she wasn't chosen? Not only that, but this article supports Andrews contention that when he asked his sweety when she fell in love with him, she told him after they met his parents. And then there was the interview with Tina Fab just after the show started airing. She was all giggles when she spoke about Andrew. I thought at the time that either she was kicked off early or she had been picked because it hadn't been that long since the show had been taped and if she had gotten further along, she wouldn't be able to look so happy if she hadn't been chosen. So when she got down to the final four, that interview weighed in my mind to make me wonder if she was the final girl. In other words, I don't read too much into these interviews. I guess we'll know, either way, who it is in less than 48 hours. |
Mlt | Saturday, May 17, 2003 - 06:30 am     Kimmo, I'm sorry. I assumed you were talking about an interview with Kirsten that seems to have created quite a stir. Which article are you refering to on Television Without Pity? |
Babyjaxmom | Saturday, May 17, 2003 - 08:28 am     Mlt, TWOP does "snarky" recaps of each episode of various TV shows. The fun of reading it is exactly the same as the fun of rehashing on this web site: it's just fun to pick it apart. TWOP tends to be a little more cynical; they try to write from a humorous viewpoint. Rabid fans of shows may take offense to some of their recaps, but I usually find them amusing (though I don't always agree). It's kind of fun, cause you get to grade the episodes and they show you the average reader grade for that episode along with the recapper's grade. They also have silly polls mixed in with the recap, which are kind of fun, too. You have to take it all with a grain of salt. ETA: Hey, thanks for the great article on Jen, Mlt! I hope they're right. I really want her to win. I'm going to be throwing things at my TV tomorrow night if he (gag) picks Kirsten, like you know??? |
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