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Cathie

Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 08:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I got my Clay CD for $3.00 today!!! :)

Nanarobin

Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 08:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
After my rant early this morning about the Clive Davis production fiasco...I was almost ashamed to come back to tvch until tonight. What irked me the most was knowing that Clay told in interview last week that they had a great adult comtemporay version and that Clive made them redo it to the loud choir/music end recording. When I rested and calmed down, I play my Clay cd several times again...and I was a bit too harsh ...it is good, but not as good as the live performance due to the mixing behind Clay.

Within the new cd version of TITN, I now hear a melodic background mariachi horns accompaniment that was not in the AI2 version...sure does add to the recording. And...I did read that Clay did his own backup vocals, both on the live show and on the recording...a close listen confirms same!
That guy sure is talented.

As for the Oprah show, there are some very good pics and excellent attendee narrations ...including the Clay-bee Boomers and the crying woman...at the new changed boards for Thats the Clay and the ClaytonAiken.com...both have long threads about the show haps...true Claymates MUST go there...IMHO There are a ton of caps of the Rolling Stone cover photo shoot there, too, by someone named MrSpock.

There is supposed to be a link on the Oprah site to view the after show for those of us who don't get OXYGEN network....like me! I have not been there yet, as stil on dial up and not sure if I get any quality...this ole retiree is going to have to spring for dsl or bb soon, me thinks!!

Before I forget...while Clay's performance today on Oprah was not his best - Ruben's was one of his best...he seemed more relaxed...especially after the grueling hot day on Sunday shooting his first video outside in a Birmingham park setting. But on the other boards I did see notes that Oprah told Clay not to worry as he had a cold...his eyes were droopy and red...he clearly was not well, exhausted, or having contact lens problems??

AND seeing ET clips later tonight of Ruben singing along with Clay while watching from audience. Something was said during the show that this had been their first time apart last week since the show began!! (one post I saw made the analogy that they (Cluben) were like an old married couple now!!!LOL) Oh my heck, I might have to go back to Wal-Mart now and buy Ruben's single!!

ok...my rant is over rant off...back to lurk mode while listening (still) to Clay's demo cuts...which are rather well done for a non-professional singer.. IMO.

I am still thinking that we should have lured SchoolMarm to AI2 for her music expertise during our performance 'critique' debating...ha

Hermione69

Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 05:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi guys,

I had to go to Best Buy last night to get a battery for the school's camcorder and of course I had to peek at the newly released AI CDs. They were sold out of Clay's!!!! There were ZERO Clay singles left in the store! Wow!

I missed the Oprah show. I am not functional in the mornings and I apparently set my VCR to tape Dr. Phil instead, LOL! Any kind souls out there willing to send me a copy? I will pay you for your trouble! My email is in my profile.

Readonly

Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 06:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ahhhh....This is the night!!! (Or morning...they just played it on the radio). Be still my heart.

Iscreamer1

Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 07:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Anyone know when the Billboard chart is released?

Bracken

Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 08:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, Iscreamer, the on-line information at Billboard regarding airplay, singles, etc., that is currently available has an "issue date" listed as June 14. This must be when the actual publication is at the news stand. Haven't kept track of dates when I do my research for new music, so I am unable to tell you how delayed the information is at that site. Looks like they may update website on Friday if it corresponds to publication date, but it looks like it is for previous week activity.

Now I have to figure out how they will classify Clay and Ruben's songs besides the top 100; there are so many classifications to choose from. Hope this helps.

If you want to keep track, you can go to www.billboard.com. Some information available, other information needs subscription.

I will attempt to remember to look at this site over the weekend and report back if there is any information regarding the AI single releases, however, it may be a bit premature to get any information about the sales/airplay of these songs this week.

Iscreamer1

Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 08:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bracken, thx for the info. I'll check out Billboard but you're right it will be hard to figure out which chart to look at. Maybe you know this, why was Clay given the original song and not Ruben? I can't hear Ruben sing TITN but it's just curious that they gave it to Clay.

Hermione69

Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 08:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I tried to find them on the Billboard site. Neither of them were in the top 50 for singles and when I tried to access more information and some additional charts that looked promising, the site told me I had to be a member of Nielsen Sound Scan or something like that and it does not look to be free.

They are both doing really well in sales. Both are in the top 5 at Amazon and top 10 at Barnes and Noble. I would like to know how the sales are doing in the stores. It was cool to check on them yesterday when I was in Best Buy and I realized just how many people are fans. I mean, I knew, but to see it in person was cool. I got into a conversation with a perfect stranger and she insisted on buying me Ruben's CD single from one Claymate to another in honor of both men being very talented (I told her I had already ordered Clay's from Amazon). I thought that was really sweet!! Random Acts of Kindness... I didn't even feel like I deserved it yesterday, but maybe those are the days that you need those acts the most! :)

I don't know why Clay was given an original song. Maybe they had choices and he opted to try that and Ruben opted to stick with Flying Without Wings? I actually like the lyrics to Flying Without Wings better, but This is the Night has been growing on me a lot. When I first heard the song, it just wasn't what I would have picked for Clay, but, like I said, it has been growing on me and is even in my head as I type this, LOL!

Wcv63

Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 10:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Iscreamer, neither is an original song. TITN is a "little known" song but has been recorded previously.

We won't get the soundscan and/or billboard numbers until next Tuesday or Wednesday. I went through this with Kelly Clarkson. It's an anxious week ahead for sure!

Monkeyboy

Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 11:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
They wont be on the charts until NEXT week. They usually give the record a whole week to sale. So it should be shown the Thursday after next.

Nanarobin

Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 12:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Clay has them baffled!

FROM THATSTHECLAY BOARD: I just wanted to pass on some great news I just got from various sources in Los Angeles. One is from R & R (RADIO & RECORDS) which is the trade magazine that tracks radio station adds, as well as requests, and airplay. She told me that the buzz for two days in the office has been all about Clay Aiken. She said that radio stations all across the country are reporting record breaking e-mails and call-ins for Clay and that it has everyone scratching their heads --- especially at stations that traditionally play more rap and R&B flavored music. Then I spoke to my former next door neighbor who put me on with his girlfriend who works the morning show on KIIS-FM with Rick Dees. She said that the office at KIIS-FM has been crazed for two days with e-mails, call-ins, and faxes, and that in the 7 years she's worked there she has seen nothing even close to this. She even said that Rick Dees wants Clay added in heavy rotation because of his large demographic. This is significant, but the record hasn't "officially" been added in heavy rotation at KIIS yet, so keep those e-mails and call -in requests coming to KIIS. E! Entertainment music reporter David Adelson just reported on the E! News Live show that it's still too early to tell, but that Clay is clearly winning the sales race by a wide margin on AMAZON. He also said that Kelly Clarkson's first single "A MOMENT LIKE THIS" was actually responsible for the revival in record stores of the CD single because it was the top selling single of 2002, and that record stores across the country are ordering in big numbers in anticipation for major sales of Ruben's and Clay's singles. Finally, I made calls around town this afternoon to WalMart, Target, Sam Goody's, and to Tower records in two locations in Los Angeles. By all accounts, Clay seems to be outselling Ruben by a wide margin -- in fact it wasn't even close. Most places didn't even have to look on their computers, it was just clear that Clay was selling more briskly. The Tower on Sunset actually had a line outside when they opened this morning.


[[Nana Robin again does happy dance, tail feathers flying all over!!]] Glad that all the AI cd's are selling so well..and we helped!!

Nanarobin

Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 12:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
BILLBOARD Magazine-CLAY AIKEN BOTW/TITN cd REVIEW
Originally Reviewed: June 14, 2003


Dueling idols! Both AI winner Ruben Studdard and by-a-hair runner-up Clay Aiken are armed with potent debut singles. So which has the mettle to triumph at radio and at the cash register? Aiken's well-received cover of "Bridge Over Troubled Water" makes its bid with a signature rafter-raising performance capable of stirring a tidal wave out of a puddle. A gospel choir alongside accents the hand-wringing theatricality of Aiken's voice—though the overtly cheesy instrumental arrangement sounds like it came straight from a suburban karaoke bar. "This Is the Night" is clearly the superior song (and originally intended as the focus track), with its message of great things ahead and a chorus that splashes technicolor charisma across the sky. Aiken truly excels with the classic power ballad genre—a contrast to Studdard's more subtle vocal stance. Dukes are up, dollars are out, and there are no ties at No. 1. Our bets are on Mr. Aiken.

bowing

Wcv63

Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 02:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nana, what we have to keep in mind is that Todd is in CA and his research is centered around the L.A. area.

As much as I hope that Clay's numbers are exceptional, I feel the need to temper that hope with the realistic expectation that Ruben has a huge fan base as well.

Just keep calling to request Clay's song on your local stations and don't forget to "Clay it forward!"

Monkeyboy

Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 02:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe next time i should read posts before mine! :)

Wcv63

Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 04:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Monkeyboy :) I do the same thing sometimes. I get so excited that I actually know the answer to something that I post before I realize that someone else beat me to the punch!

Ace

Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 04:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I tried to buy Clay's single at our local Wal-mart today. There were none to be found. Not one. I counted about 20 Reuben CD's available. Of Course, they could have had more of his to begin with. I have no way of knowing that.

Bailey

Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 06:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hermoine, here's a link to a site where you can catch Clay's portion of Oprah and After the Show from yesterday..
http://www.clayaddict.com/clayclips.htm
This site has other clips too.. some fun ones if you missed them the first time around.

As for the finale song choices.. from what I understand, these songs were given out weeks before the winner was announced. I know Kim and Clay were both given TITN and Ruben and Josh were given FWW. (Josh singing FWW.. a little scary). :)

I ordered and received my Clay cd from Amazon. but yesterday I was in Best Buy and decided I would check out their supplies (and maybe buy an extra or two).. and believe it or not.. they LOST the box containing Clay's cd's.. Had Ruben and Justin's.. but no Clay. The salesclerk said they were getting lots of requests for it.. but were unable to locate it. Made my weary little brain start thinking of the anomaly all over again.. I need to stop taking these things so seriously!! *g*

Bailey

Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 07:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Need to make a correction.. I had it backwards.. FWW went to Rube and Kim.. TITN went to Clay and Josh. Not that it matters.. just like to have my facts straight. :)

Luvmom

Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 07:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't wait til I recieve my Clay cd.I'm keeping myself busy by watching all of the clay videoes on the website.I miss seeing him already.

Wcv63

Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 12:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Clay will be attending the AFI awards tonight with his best friend Amanda. Reports are that Clay bought her dress. Awwwwwwwwwwwww.

I don't know if the Red Carpet segment will be on television anywhere, but if you are planning to watch keep your eye out for Clay!

Wcv63

Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 08:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Go to wire image to look at pretty pictures of Clay and Amanda attending the AFI awards. Clay is wearing a tux and Amanda is in a very pretty coral one shouldered dress.

wire image You have to type in "Clay Aiken" in the search box. Happy hunting!

Hermione69

Friday, June 13, 2003 - 07:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This site is blocked from access at my school! Darn! Any kind souls want to find and past an image here for my viewing pleasure??

Chiparock

Friday, June 13, 2003 - 07:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi, Hermi - I'm amazed that they DIDN'T block my access here at work, since they've been blocking anything they could find that might be considered even remotely enjoyable. Anyway, there are many photos [thank you for the link Wcv] but I only dared download one:
clayamanda

That's a lot smaller than I expected, and I don't have my photo editing goodies here at work. Sorry.

Hermione69

Friday, June 13, 2003 - 07:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
They look darling, Chiparock! THANK YOU SO MUCH! I don't have a reliable computer at home right now so I can't even look at home just yet!

You put a on my face!

Wcv63

Friday, June 13, 2003 - 05:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The next few days are extremely important when it comes to getting Clay's single played on the radio. If any of you have the time, the means or the dedication to get involved in radio request campaigns please jump aboard.