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Seamonkey

Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 09:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Watching now..

Clay was good, Kim L was great, Rickey.. the hat.. ok, Kim C.. I think they've browbeat her into not sticking to her own style (whether that style is right or wrong for AI), Josh was pretty good, Carmen.. thought she was better than the judges did, Trenyce.. strange outfit.. the top seemed to be a venetian/balloon shade remnant (i saw a matching skirt in a Nordstrom catalog), Ruben was smoooth.

But.. that isn't a pork pie hat!!

porkpie (hats)
Hat style made popular during the 19th century, it has a round, flat-topped crown and a small brim turned up all around.


http://www.jmdl.com/glossary/porkpiehat.cfm

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/cieras/noname53.html

Danimom

Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 10:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tonight's show was good! But can we please relieve the viewers of their misery and get rid of one note Kim C. She's a pretty girl but she can't sing very well. She should wink or something, that worked for that screaming half singing Kelly last year.

Kim L has a wonderful voice, as does Reuben. Can't decide which of the two I like better.

Clay is really really good, but I'm afraid if he doesn't sort of mix up his style or something, he may not win.

Rickey has gotten better in my opinion. He has the type of voice that needs music for that sound, but I think he's really hanging in there.

Carmen, I've been 50/50 on her the whole show thus far. There are times when this really wonderful tone in her voice comes through and then other times, well I don't know. I thinks she just a bit too young and needs a bit more time to develop and mature.

Josh, I'm not into country all that much, but I think for that style of music he seems okay.

Trenyce... can't decide on her. Sometimes I really like her, other times I don't. Her look needs a little assistance, but she's picked some very tough songs and has done well with them. Not sure if she's got the package to be the AI.

And then there's Corey.. can we just say that the cows in the pasture are sleeping much better now that he's no longer crooning to us with that painful display which sounds like cats in heat.

So there you have it, my opinion, probably not what most people think, but that's what I see and hear..

Mygetaway

Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 11:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with Who, and wanted to give Kim C some points for trying something new, but I didn't send any votes her way tonight.

I agree with Danimom about Trenyce, and I can't decide how I feel about her. I think she has a pretty good voice, but there are times it's not so good. Plus the total package needs adjusting.

I voted for Rickey, because I'm not ready for him to go, Kim L, and a few for Reuben, even though he doesn't need them.

I voted 5 times for Carmen, because I was actually calling to see if her line was busy. LOL

Did anyone else see Julia in the audience?? I saw her a couple times, and I think they showed her after Reuben sang, and you could tell she was proud of him.

Pantageas

Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 11:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think most of them did well tonight! Things of note -

Clay - PLEASE show some emotion! Every performance is a drama club production ballad, waiting for him to hit that ONE note...great voice, but he looks like he's relying on a personal version of that Mariah Caray signature move...dance, sing something upbeat, with a hook, or a bassline...anything!

Kim L. - Very good. Wish she would have sung ANYTHING but Celine Dion though. CD is a one trick pony, and I don't want to see any of these finalists jumping on that horse...

Ricky - Very nice. Drop the hat and keep singing well - you'll get votes from what's left of Charles' and Corey's camps...

Kim C. - I think she sounded hesitant, almost as if she KNEW she couldn't pull the Bryan Adams song off...

Josh - flat in a couple of spots, but he sold the song well. Good voice, but I still think he is outmuscled by some of the other performers in this group.

Trenyce - see Kim L. above...

Ruben - I've said it before, and I'll say it again - he could be out selling records right NOW...

And finally(deep breath)...

Carmen - Hello?! America?! Remember Nikki from last year? Remember Tamyra? Remember how that turned out? Stop giving votes to those people!! Carmen is HOPELESSLY outmatched by every single other performer left in the competition! If ANY of the other seven go before her, it'd be a grave injustice. Who the Hell is voting for her anyway?

Seamonkey

Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 11:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I put in all of my votes for Kim L. I thought she was good last week and again this week but she's got that boatanchor of last week's low vote pulling her down..

Demeter

Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 11:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This was the first night I thought Rickey did ok, not great but at least ok.

I thought Kim C was worse than ever.

For me, not Ruben's best night even though I know most loved him. He looked great though.

Carmen...I WANT to like her and she does seem to be getting better...but I still heard that warble in in voice and it takes away from the song. I give her a lot of credit though, considering she is a high school student competing with adults.

I still like Clay the most, but I think it would do him well to change things up a bit and carry it off.

I like Kim L...she did well.

Trenyce...just so hard to watch. She missed a couple notes but otherwise decent.

Car54

Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 11:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Who, I am really getting worried...fingers are our friends...they rank right after opposable thumbs in the list of great stuff. Startin to think you need to just listen to the show to get past the finger thing.

Trenyce is probably goin down this week anyway. She looks like a nervous wreck ever since her past hit the news and became a joke.

The only good thing will be if she goes, she saves Rickey from the hat disaster.


Cracking up on the hat definitions above. Not a newsboy...they have much more fabric in the cap.
Right on on the porkpie, Seamonkey....Leo Gorcey wore one non-stop in the '30s.

Whatever it was, it looked fantabulous.

Serate

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 12:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Car I put in about 20 votes for Ricky for you.

Whoami

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 12:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Don't worry Car. I like fingers. Just not flapping fingers!

Wings were made for flapping. Fingers were made for.....uh....fingering? Hey! Maybe she's a woodwind player, and is used to fingering the notes?

Abbynormal

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 12:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well I can't help it, I like Carmen! I think she is just a doll and I thought she did the song really really well. Their were spots where she sounded exactly like Debra Harry.

I thought Rickey did a fab job also. Actually I pretty much enjoyed them all, even if I don't personally agree with the song or style they sing.

I've been trying to analize the way I feel about Josh. I kind of feel gyped because he went into the competition knowing that country was his bag. He did not show this until a few weeks into it. I feel he would not have made the top 10 if he had sang country in the auditions. Now, on the other hand if he were to win, then I guess it would seem that America wants a country singer for their AI. So that would be more than fair. BUT if a regular Joe and not a marine was singing country how would America feel? Lots to think about, and I haven't reached a conclusion yet.

I am proud that Ruben wore regular clothes. He really looked nice, I thought.

Why does everyone hate Celine Dione? I don't have any of her cd's but I think she has a beautiful voice.

Serate

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 12:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"Fingers were made for.....uh....fingering?"


no comment *L*

Fruitbat

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 04:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I wonder if Simon will ever throw any criticism Rubens way. Looks like he could walk straight to winning this thing without a bump.

I do like Ruben but I am a little bored this year. I don't feel passionate about anyone.

I started watching last year at the final 5 and Kelly sucked me in and I became a raving fan. I don't see anyone to catch a viewer that arrives late like that.

Jbean

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 04:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
fruit, i agree with you 100%. i'm not real excited about anyone this year, either. kelly just has something about her, both in personality and voice. i think it will be hard to ever find someone else as special as she is. jmo

Car54

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 04:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, Who, I am watching you.

YAY Serate! I am thinking positive for Rickey.
I think poor Trenyce is goin down. She looked kinda droopy.
Abby, I don't mind Celine Dions voice, but when I watch her sing, she seems to be in pain...really straining. The somg Kim L sang was so over played for a couple of years it is kind of a cliche, but she really made it sound different.

I think Carmen is cute too-amazing for her age, and now that she has not yodeled, I am fine with her.

Weenerlobo

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 05:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think Clay did that well last nite, and he is one of my favs.

Kim L did well and she is not one of my favs.

Kim C. is limited in her range and that was pretty obvious, but she sure can work the stage. Maybe she can be a game show host.

I just don't like Ricky's voice, although he seems like a sweet boy with a good sense of humor.

Trenyce has got a good voice, but I'd like to see her drop the diva act. She seems to be trying to act like Diana Ross quite a bit. I wonder if she can sing a song without the word "I" in it.

Carmen, Carmen, Carmen. That poor thing looked pained. I bet she'll be pretty good in a few years with a buncha training.

Josh did well. His mouth contortions are distracting.

I was real happy to see Rueben out of the 205 gear. He looked great and gave the best performance of the night. If I had to bet, I'd say he's winning.

Crazydog

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 07:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Didn't get on the computer last night and just got finished reading the entire thread.

I'm a little ashamed to admit that I was a big Paula Abdul fan back in the day. No, make that HUGE. So for those of you who asked, I believe her six #1s were: "Straight Up", "Forever Your Girl", "Cold Hearted", "Opposites Attract", "Rush Rush" and "The Promise of a New Day". The song "(It's Just) The Way That You Love Me" was also a pretty big hit for her.

As for the performances, I know they have lots of fans here, but Clay, Ricky and Josh did not do it for me. I think Clay is getting more and more boring with each successive performance. Pantageas said it very well up above, he just is building up to hit that one sustained note in every song.

I think Ricky purposely chose songs by Earth Wind and Fire and Lionel Richie because he knew who the guest judges were - it's too much of a coincidence two weeks in a row. He needs to go this week.

Josh. Way too country. Lone Star was a country band singing a pop song. They had another version which was more of a country version. They chose to release the pop version because they were appealing to the mainstream pop audience, and it went to #1. Josh is a country singer singing country songs and really is out of his dimension. But he's a boy band wannabe stuck in a country singer's body. I just can't stand the way he makes those fists and does those little boy band pumps in the air.

Kimberley Caldwell was horrid. She looked great but her rendition of Bryan Adams' monster hit was uninspired and boring.

I really liked Carmen. I agree that she should have sang a sweeter song to fit her personality but I thought she looked great and sounded good.

Ruben should win the competition, hands down.

Marameko

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 08:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
AMEN, AMEN Crazydog, Reuben nailed that song last night. Get prepared REUBEN WILL WIN.
Those in the bottom 3 this week include:
Carmen
Trenyce
Kim C

Webkitty

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 08:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I loved Ruben's change of wardrobe.
The 205 shirts were getting old for me, and for the first time last night, I could "see" him as a professional. I like how he is comfortable on stage but isn't too slick and showbizzy. Nice voice. Love to watch him perform.

I am fascinated with Carmen. She changes it up all the time and is willing to try out new things. She is able to change her look from week to week and I consider that an asset. Her voice sounded great last night. I want her to stay and watch her grow. She seems like a lovely and sweet young lady through and through. Love to watch her perform.

Trenyce has a great voice, but I don't enjoy watching her perform.

Kim L. has a great voice, but she's bland for me a performer.

Rickey is another one who strives to change his look from week to week, good for him. (didn't like the hat, though) His upper register doesn't bother me because he can hit the notes. I enjoy his performances but he doesn't have that easy connection with the audience that Ruben has.

Josh has a so-so voice for me and I don't enjoy watching him perform.

Clay has a theatrical syle that is best suited to broadway, and I would pay to see him there. He has an awesome voice but I don't see him as the Amercian Idol at this point in time.

Kim C. She is another one who is willing and able to change her look and delivery every week. I like her voice too. Its not as pitch perfect as Clay's, but I enjoy watching her perform. I also have to admire how she has handled herself with the beating she gets from the judges each week.
She was voted off once, in the bottom 3 and still comes out with a great attitude each week. Very gracious under fire and pressure.

Marameko

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 08:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
And another thing.......Simon is losing his mind........He dissed Lionel's version of "Endless Love", his comments really do not matter. Ole Lionel made major $$$$$ with that song. Cha-ching

Car54

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 08:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Webkitty, I really like reading your take on the show. You always have something useful to add, and even when you don't care for someone, you make it about their performance and your response to it, rather than personal. I always wait for you to post what you think, and enjoy it every week, even if we don't like the same people. Thanks.:)

Grooch

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 08:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Webkitty, I agree with most of your assessment above, esp the part about Kim C.

I was never crazy about her, and I think she is a decent singer, not a great one. But I am really starting to feel for her. I think she is working the hardest to try and win this competition and she listens to all the judges critisms and tries to grow from that. She really is grace under fire with what she is going through.

Walker

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 08:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i have a funny feeling about tonight and who may be leaving..i think that a lot of people may be suprised.

Grooch

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 08:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Walker, spill! :)

Webkitty

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 08:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
TY Grooch and CAr, and yes, Walker, SPILL!!

Fluff

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 08:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm thinking she's thinking Clay.

*running and hiding*