Archive through November 05, 2002
MoveCloseDeleteAdmin

TV ClubHouse: Archive: American Idol (FOX): American Idol 2: Archive through November 05, 2002

Azlen

Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 04:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am guessing that AI2 will probably have a greater talent depth than AI1 because there will be some incredibly talented people that will try out that didn't do it the first time around just because it was an unknown show. Not saying that the winner will be better than Kelly just that the AI2 top ten will probably be better overall than the AI1 top ten. I am also guessing that there will be even more bad auditions just so they could possibly get on TV being ripped by Simon.

Kitt

Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 05:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, I think you're right on both accounts. There must be so many singers who are talented who, seeing the show, must think they could easily be contenders. Hopefully more talented males too!

Marymc

Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 05:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
there will also be the "15 minutes of fame" seekers who KNOW they suck and will want too see simon in person ANYWAY....will want to TRY to get on the "bad" reels or just make a idiot of themselves. hope they have some kind of pre-screening in place....

Webkitty

Friday, September 06, 2002 - 11:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Azlen, you are SO right! I expect AI2 will be huge, and the talent to come pouring out of the woodwork (can't wait)

On that note, the people that live across the street from me have a teenage daughter that has an incredible voice. I have only heard it when she is singing as she's going from the car into the house, but it sounds so pure and beautiful! She is also extremely pretty, perfect AI material.

I really don't know this family well enough to aproach them about her, but I know that she is an only child and they seem to keep a tight rein on her, and I do know that they are heavily involved in church activies, so.......Makes me wonder how many kids like her are out there that will never be discovered. Each to their own I guess

Wcv63

Friday, September 06, 2002 - 11:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
One thing I heard during one of the many interviews I've been watching lately is that Kelly said she went through 3 or 4 auditions BEFORE she got to Randy/Simon/Paula. So there are definitely screeners there....this means those horrendous acts were let through strictly for entertainment purposes. Interesting eh?

Webkitty

Friday, September 06, 2002 - 01:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yep!

Marymc

Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 08:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
so maybe the worst of the worst get through purely for the camera reactions.... hmmmm..... because it did seem like everyone was either pretty good or god-awful....

Hummingbird

Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 01:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tamika (is that her name), the foul mouthed, sour grapes loser sure got more air time than she deserved. Her line, "That Paula Abdul --she's just jealous!" cracked me up.

Quietstorm4

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 12:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here is a good article from eonline. Looks like AI2 will be airing in February.


Edited: I couldn't get the link to work so here is the article.

An "Idol" Summer Draws to Close
by Kimberly Potts
Sep 5, 2002, 4:25 PM PT

Unless you had your TiVo working overtime Wednesday night, you probably still have visions of Coca-Cola products, the Ford Focus and an admittedly hilarious Bernie Mac Show season premiere promo (with special guest star Matt Damon!) dancing through your head.

But with the inaugural American Idol season officially over, perky Texas winner Kelly Clarkson firmly entrenched on the pop-culture radar and the product-placement folk ready to pounce elsewhere, the big question is: What's next?

For Fox, the network that boasted the It Series of summer 2002, it's all about taking some time to savor the phenomenal buzz and viewership the talent show brought in. Though the network finished behind ratings champ NBC for the traditional 14-week summer TV season, Variety reports that, on the strength of American Idol, Fox's ratings were the most improved from last summer, up 4 percent in the 18-49 demographic, 12 percent in the prized 18-34 category and seven percent in total viewers.

Meanwhile, Verizon Communications said it recorded 107 million calls from viewers phoning in to vote in the interactive contest since the show debuted in June, with more than 15 million calls (58 percent for Clarkson) after Tuesday night's penultimate episode. The Tuesday night sing-off drew more than 18 million viewers.

Fox also averaged 22.8 million viewers for Wednesday's two-hour, filler-packed finale, while the last half hour, during which the winner was finally announced, pulled in 28 million viewers--Fox's all-time best numbers for that time period.

And numbers like that surely have the sly Fox execs looking ahead to February's American Idol 2, with all three judges--cheeky British record exec Simon Cowell, Paula Abdul and record producer Randy, Randy, Randy Jackson--returning and a new crop of wannabes that will, undoubtedly, spark a deliciously wicked comment or 200 from breakout star Simon.

Other networks are also trying to get their piece of the Idol-try, with CBS currently developing a remake of Star Search, a show that once included contestants like Britney Spears, Rosie O'Donnell and Justin Timberlake, and USA Network putting together a talent search for the next big country crooner.

As for Clarkson, the 20-year-old former cocktail waitress who beat out 10,000 other hopefuls to win a million-dollar recording contract with RCA Records, the immediate future will include the obligatory media blitz, teen magazine covers, singing the national anthem at the Lincoln Memorial on September 11, her first single, containing both "A Moment Like This" and "Before Your Love" on September 17 (the songs have already been sent to radio stations) and her debut CD on November 26.

"She was head and shoulders above the other guy," judge Cowell told reporters after the show. "No competition."

Clarkson will also reap the rewards of the American Idol group projects, including the official show book, currently available from Bantam Books, an American Idol DVD on October 1, a six-week, 28-city tour, featuring the 10 finalists, that kicks off October 8 in San Diego, an American Idol CD-ROM game (you too can be an American Idol!) in November, and a two-hour Fox special that will reunite the original 30 semifinalists for a Las Vegas performance on September 23.

Meanwhile, 23-year-old runner-up Justin Guarini, who had been Vegas' 5-to-6 favorite to win going into Wednesday's broadcast, is also fielding record deal offers, and will appear with Clarkson on Thursday night's Fox news magazine The Pulse and Friday afternoon's TRL on MTV.

Though the Pennsylvania native and former door-to-door salesman handled the second-place finish like a pro (declaring, "I'm so happy with tonight's decision. No one deserves it more than [Clarkson]"), the night capped off a tough week for him, with Access Hollywood reporting that his mom, Kathy, was rushed to a Los Angeles hospital last Friday for emergency surgery to remove a "large mass" in her stomach area, as well as a kidney.

Mrs. Guarini, who had been an audience fixture throughout the show, is doing well, according to the New York Post, and is scheduled to be released from the hospital Friday.

And us, we're hopping into our Ford Focus and heading off to snag a Coke.

Puttergirl

Friday, October 18, 2002 - 04:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They're all coming back (judges) plus one new one! The early auditions are happening now.

HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - Paula Abdul (news) and Randy Jackson will return for the second edition of Fox's "American Idol," joining fellow judge Simon Cowell, who had already reupped with the hit talent show. Fox also confirmed Thursday that the next version of "American Idol" will welcome a fourth judge, who will "add a different and unique perspective" to the group. Ryan Seacrest will return to host the next "American Idol," while insiders say it's likely he'll be paired with a female host. Original partner Brian Dunkleman earlier announced that he wouldn't return. "American Idol" launches its next talent search Monday in Detroit. Cattle calls in New York, Atlanta, Nashville, Miami and Austin follow, leading up to Los Angeles on Nov. 17.

Hotlantan

Friday, October 18, 2002 - 04:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
http://www.mjmorningshow.com/morning_home.html

Dunkleman Out, Kristen Holt In
It finally happened, the producers of American Idol have fired Brian Dunkleman and have replaced him with Kristen Holt. Kristen appeared on the first season of American Idol and made it to Hollywood but not much further.
---


Discuss...

Puttergirl

Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 02:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Here's a picture of her performing on American Idol. I don't remember her at all!! I wonder how she went from an early ejectee to hosting the show!!!!

Kirsten

Hermione69

Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 07:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i<| 6O¼er her, but I'm curious to how she managed that. Isn't she the one that slipped and fell under the table?

What I find appalling is why fire Dunkleman and not Seacreast?? I though Seacrest was the bigger moron. Oh well, maybe that is just me.

Max

Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 05:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kelly Clarkson is the one who slipped and fell under the table. :)

I can't remember this one at all.

Kady

Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 08:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Kristin is the one who slid under the table. She made it to the final 30. She gave up a chance to be in the Miss Texas pageant because she thought AI was a bigger opportunity.

Hermione69

Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 02:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have no idea what happened to the text of my message above to make those nonsense characters!! All I said was that I was curious how she managed to land such a gig also. That is a pretty big feather in her cap for someone who was such a nonentity on the show! She is not who I would have picked. I actually think Paula Abdul might be better as a host than a judge.

Muse

Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 05:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kristin Holt is indeed the one who slipped under the table. She's the one who sang "Fallin'" during the semi-finals, and cried when the judges (especially Simon) weren't terribly impressed. She annoyed me with the beauty pagent-like tears (complete with the dabbing at the eyes to avoid smearing makeup) and overdramatics. She also said that Simon "must have missed the bucket by the door, because that's where we leave our attitudes", or something along those lines. And Simon and the hosts (Brian in particular) made a few comments about each other because of her, too, since the hosts were comforting her and saying she did a great job. Simon didn't like them judging talent, and Brian didn't like him making "good kids" cry. Blah, blah, blah. I was sort of amused by Simon snapping at the hosts, though, since he usually didn't sound that annoyed with them. :)

Anyway, I'm *really* not a fan of Kristin's. I could have done without her being in the Vegas concert, too. But it's starting to look like this rumor about her might be true. Ick.

Webkitty

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 09:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Muse, I agree, Ick. Why her?

Seamonkey

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 10:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Double Ick. but I suppose she can't be worse than Dunkleman..

I'm just grateful that Simon will be staying.. to me the show would be a total bore without him.. not just his acid wit but also his ability to judge people .. and of course he's cute, too.

Monkeyboy

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 11:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
they also said that hiphop dj/recording artist Angie Martinez will be the fourth judge

http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,380599~10~0~nychip-hopradiodj,00.html

Muse

Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 10:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, Kristin is apparently just going to be a "special correspondent" for the audition process. I guess that's better than her being a co-host, but still. Would rather not see her again at all. :)

I've barely heard of Angie Martinez, so I have no idea how I feel about her being the forth judge. I'm guessing she'll be relatively opinionated. I hope she clashes with Simon. That'd be fun.

Eliz87

Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 08:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Max, Kelly was the one who switched places with Randy Jackson -- she took his seat at the auditions while he stood up and sang. It was indeed Kristen who slid underneath the table.

For those of you who don't remember Kristen from the semi-finals, she was the person who sang "Fallin'" by Alicia Keys. Paula and Randy thought it was "okay" (PP) and Simon said that the song was too much for her at this level and she was way over her head and out of her league with that song selection, but if this had been a beauty pageant, she would have won.

Also, on a side note, she also caused some other type of controversy early on. She and other A.I. contestants were on the same airplane flying to Pasadena and many of the contestants were cutting up and getting kind of loud. Kristen commented to another passenger that she did not want to be associated with them, and she and Nikki McGibbin apparently had a falling out over this.

Hotlantan

Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 05:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Apparently a three-day dose of Simon was more than enough for Angie Martinez.

The R&B hip-hopster and New York radio personality announced Wednesday she was ejecting from American Idol 2 after an un-whopping three days on the judging panel.

The reason: She says can't bring herself to be like Simon.

"Being asked to join American Idol as their newest panelist was an honor," she says in a Fox-issued statement. "However, after judging the first few auditions, I've decided to leave the show because it became too uncomfortable for me to tell someone else to give up on their dream, especially when I realized that many of them have supported my musical career.

"I thank everyone at Fox for the opportunity and wish every contestant the best of luck."

For the past eight years, Martinez has toiled at New York's Hot 97 WQHT, becoming the most-listened-to female radio personality in the city, according to the station. She released her debut album, Up Close and Personal, in 2001, and the follow up, Animal House, hit record stores in August. She scored a Grammy nomination for the all-star collaboration "Ladies Night," featuring Missy Elliot, Lil' Kim, Lisa "Left Eye" Lopes and Da Brat.

She was officially announced as the show's fourth judge last Friday, although by then she had already sat in on auditions in Detroit (October 21) and New York (October 24). Martinez also attended tryouts in Atlanta last Sunday before ditching the show.

Fox says it won't replace her, leaving intact the show's original trifecta of talent assessors--Paula Abdul, Simon Cowell and Randy Jackson.

The threesome, joined by returning host Ryan Seacrest, are currently wading through scores of 16- to 24-year-olds, ranking them on looks, attitude and vocal chops. They'll pare the field down to 30 semifinalists who will faceoff in Hollywood, in the hopes of landing a million-dollar recording contract and the title of American Idol now held by ex-Texas cocktail waitress Kelly Clarkson.

After a stop in Nashville tonight, the search moves to Miami on Saturday, hits Austin, Texas, on November 6 and winds up in Los Angeles on November 17.

While Martinez didn't finger Cowell as a reason for her departure, she did get the full-on Simonizing during her brief Idol tenure. At the New York tryouts, Cowell let loose on the newbie judge.

"What's good about Angie is that she's subservient," Cowell said, as recounted by the New York Post. He then turned to Martinez and added, "Didn't you clean our shoes when we were in Detroit?"

Fox programmers are still debating exactly when to premiere the next season of Idol, debating dates in either January or February.

Meanwhile, the other networks continue to scramble to repeat Idol's monster success. CBS is already at work on an updated Star Search, the USA Network has a countrified version called Nashville Star, and UPN announced this week that it would launch a show tentatively titled Supermodel, in which a panel anchored by Tyra Banks would hunt for wannabe catwalkers.

Catbowl

Monday, November 04, 2002 - 07:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Our city had a West Michigan Idol contest and the finalist had a gaurnteed spot in the Detroit auditions. Lemme tell you...I saw plenty of gawd awful singing. The winner was ok...but it seemed like she was shouting more than singing. Her voice did fill the theater!! She very definetly looked the part and when I saw her before the auditions there was this aura about her...I guess that is a prerequisite of stardom hey? Anyways...she caught my eye even before she opened her mouth and none of the other hundreds did that. I wish her luck...and don't ask me her name...lol...I forgot it. Any other citys out there have auditions to give the lucky winner a spot in the main ones?

Azlen

Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 03:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Phoenix had an "Arizona Idol" contest as well that was guaranteed a spot in the LA auditions. I didn't go so I have no idea how it went but I wonder how many other cities did the same thing.