Archive through May 28, 2003
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Archive through May 28, 2003
Hermione69 | Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 01:44 pm     Oh no! It must be a conspiracy!! |
Hobbs | Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 01:49 pm     LOL Hermi. Simon is online ordering records like mad! He's saying, "I'll get you my little pretty. And your little dog too." |
Nanarobin | Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 02:05 pm     Herm....a possible conspiracy, you say.....now in this day and age...who could 'possibly' think 'conspiracy' for a tv show??? I mean, there has NOT been any biased media hype...the judges have NOT expressed their preferences..was a Daffy Duck bandaid found on Ryan Seachrest's butt???? HAVE THERE BEEN ANY SUCH HAPPENINGS???? AND JUST WHERE IS THAT OLIVER STONE PRODUCER GUY THESE DAYS.... makes one wonder, eh???!!!! |
Nanarobin | Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 02:08 pm     ok...well, I saw Ryan hyping his bandaid on Fox at noon and on Access Hollywood so far...really! |
Prisonerno6 | Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 03:43 pm     Darn. I missed the chance to post about Ruben being Number 6, since he's now up to Number 5. Who is Number 1? :-) (You have to be a fan of obscure British Sci-Fi to understand that one...)(And we all remember the story of the tortoise and the hare, don't we? :-) Ah well, all this AI stuff has just flown out the window as far as I'm concerned -- I just found out Jim Byrnes will be playing just a hop, skip and a jump away from the conference I spent the last 2.5 days juggling schedules, money and paperwork to get to. (You have to be a fan of obscure Canadian blues men to understand that one...) So Just for a Thrill, I think I'll head up to Vancouver so I can Shake (My) Money Maker while I Let the Good Times Roll. Granted, the next day I'll probably wake up to a Hangover Morning, but that's OK, 'cause I Got It Bad. So the the Next Time YOu See Me, I may have found a little Love and Happiness, 'cause I'm going with a Bad Boy! (C'mon, there's gotta be *somebody* here you recognizes those songs!) |
Prisonerno6 | Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 03:57 pm     Make that "who" recognizes these songs. Consider it a measure of my JB excitement that I didn't adequately proof my writing...as evidenced by the amzaingly convoluted first sentence in the second paragraph... |
Pantageas | Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 11:56 pm     I got the reference Prisoner, but if Ruben makes it to Number 1, does he become Number 6? |
Prisonerno6 | Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 06:45 am     Well, he's number 2 right now, so that means he's in charge. :-) (Of course, reading certain posts around here make be wonder where's a giant weather balloon when you need one!) |
Ladytex | Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 07:26 am     LOL Prisoner ... LOL |
Snee | Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 08:53 am     hey prisoner, enjoy jim byrnes! that trip should be great! |
Prisonerno6 | Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 08:16 am     First of all, thanks Snee, I will!) Second, saw this article posted on a newsgroup. Since this doesn't sound like Clay, I'm sure there's more to the story. Anyone who saw the interview want to tell what was really said? NY POST/MICHAEL STARR..... 'AMERICAN Idol 2" runner-up Clay Aiken says phone- line snafus were so bad last week that even his own mother couldn't vote for him. "My mom sat on the phone for three hours straight" without getting through, Aiken said yesterday on Fox News Channel's "Fox & Friends." Aiken lost to Ruben Studdard by the tissue-thin margin of 134,000 votes - one-half of one percent of the 24 million votes cast by viewers at home phoning into a special 1-800 AT&T number. "A lot of people said they couldn't get in, couldn't vote," Aiken told "Fox & Friends" co-hosts Steve Doocy and Brian Kilmeade. "That's one of the reasons the numbers were higher for Ruben," Aiken said. "A lot of my friends said they couldn't get through in the first half hour so they just gave up. They stopped voting and waited until 9:30." Aiken also admitted for the first time that he knew ahead of time Studdard had won the final showdown. "Idol" judge Simon Cowell said last week that Clay caught a peek of the winner's name on a card held by "Idol" host Ryan Seacrest. "Right before we went out [onto the stage] Ryan was looking at his card and I kind of glanced over and I saw there was a name on there that was this long instead of this long," Aiken said, using his hands to indicate the greater length of Ruben's name compared to his. "So I had an idea. I kind of put two and two together," he said. "I thought it was maybe, probably Ruben [who won]." Kilmeade then asked Aiken if that's why he was staring at Ruben while Seacrest announced the winner. "We both just got into it - all of the sudden I couldn't move," Aiken said. "I looked at [Ruben] for a second and decided I couldn't move." |
Nanarobin | Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 08:54 am     Prisoner ...no this was not really new news...Clay has repeated this story on almost every show about the knowing..that is why I started the thread about him knowing when Simon blabbed the story it last week on the Fox noon news show (via phone) right after the finale. Clay said he caught sight of Ryan checking his cards before the final segment and that he sorta figured it out--as the name on Ryans card was long and he was sure it was not his short name. He also said he stared at Ruben as he wanted to be the first to see his reaction to winning. He admitted that he did have a few minutes to acclimate himself to knowing it likely was not him...and that he was so thrilled for Ruben. The two of them seem to be genuine pals..who appear to compliment one another in a great way!And both have stated that they really WANT to do a movie together...which they think would be fun! I am so happy that they both admit to being the two most unlikely contestants to win out of all the 12. Both say it with all humility..which brings me to the realization in my ole heart that there is hope for our younger generation! They both seem to be so polite...Ruben uses yes, ma'am a lot, too! That's my 2 cents worth!! JMHO |
Crazydog | Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 08:54 am     Why does Clay say that one of the reasons why Ruben's votes were higher is because Clay's mom and friends couldn't get through on the phone lines? Why does he not understand that a lot of Ruben's friends and fans couldn't get through either? I find this interesting, I know there was some article where Ruben's mother and brother said they put in 200 calls before they left the parking lot. But I thought I read somewhere where Clay said Clay's mom put in 150 calls. |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 09:10 am     Clay's mom was only able to get through about 20 times. His grandmother couldn't get through at all. That is what I have been hearing anyway. Clay has been nothing but gracious to Ruben for the win, I'm sure he didn't mean to imply that Ruben did not deserve it, but I am also sure it was frustrating to him to hear that his own family couldn't get through to vote. |
Texannie | Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 09:13 am     On E New Live last he said that he didn't think there was anything "immoral or illegal" regarding the phone in votes. He said that the voting has always been fair and above board the whole season and there was no reason to think that it was any different for the finals. He did say also that the reason he was staring at Ruben was because he froze and not the version of wanting to see his face first. |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 09:13 am     BTW, Clay has actually been handling this with more class than many of his fans!! If you think some of us here at TVCH have been pouty, you should go to some of the other places. They are way out of control!! A friend of mine emailed me that she read a post on another site where the woman was saying she had only recently been able to stop crying!! Another one compared her feelings to how she felt when Kennedy was shot. I am totally smitten with Clay, but mercifully rational enough to have my priorities straight so that his "loss" has not been detrimental to my life! |
Tishala | Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 09:19 am     I too think Clay has handled being runner up very well and I cannot possibly believe that the quotation in the Post story ["A lot of people said they couldn't get in, couldn't vote," Aiken told "Fox & Friends" co-hosts Steve Doocy and Brian Kilmeade. "That's one of the reasons the numbers were higher for Ruben," Aiken said.] is actually a continuous quotation--it has to be cobbled together. By now, we all realize that Ruben fans, like me, had many difficulties getting in, just as Clay's friends, family, and fans did. I can only imagine that the Post is keeping this dumb story going because they are part of Murdoch's News Corp chain [the Fox folks] and publicity like this is better to them than no publicity at all. |
Prisonerno6 | Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 09:35 am     LOL Hermione! Yea, I've seen some of that. I'm also appalled at some of the things I've read elsewhere about Ruben (questioning his intelligence, asking if his family is on welfare) that make anything that's been said here pale in comparison. Nana, I was talking about the comments about the voting, particularly the headline. That just seems so Not Clay that I figure it had to be a skewed report. It is, after all, from the Post, just slightly above the Drudge Report in terms of journalistic integrity. |
Wcv63 | Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 09:36 am     I watched the Fox & Friends interview and that was not a direct quote. Clay said that the lines were busy and some of his "friends" told him that they gave up after the first hour because of the busy signals. Sometimes the media totally twists things to fit their own agenda. It's amazing to me that after the the NY post and times scandals, journalists are still willing to "compromise" the integrity of the facts. |
Sadiesmom | Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 09:39 am     When asked my opinion, it can vary different hours of the days and different days of the week. how tired, how busy, how multitasking. When someone is in the media constantly, cut them some slack on consistancy. If you want to talk about inconsistancy you should talk about how everyone was trying to blame Seacrest for sying the wrong numbers, when they finally had to admit that they had given him the wrong figures. That is far more blatent an inconsistancy and might have hurt his career. As far as Starr Jones, I am sure it is hurtful to get such e-mail. But how many do you think she received like that? I figure most racists would not be watching the View anyway. The IP could be traced is they cared so much and that person could have been bounced from their service. I think if it was just a few, it was not worthy of bringing up for discussion. Bringing such things up only encourages people to be more outrageous the next time. Personally, I think they should have cut the MTV appearance this weekend, driving them out to the Hamptons so the 'cool kids' could make fun of them was not a good idea. Cutting the view was not a bad idea considering how little attention they paid to Ruben, almost MTV again without bikinis and cameras. I think that for all their lost normal lives (and that does seem to be sinking in now), after being sheltered in the mansion for months, and the utter exhaustion of this media blitz, the boys are doing good and deserve a break now and them. I go with letting them relax for a while and GET SOME SLEEP. They are starting to look and sound like zombies. |
Prisonerno6 | Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 09:47 am     "I am sure it is hurtful to get such e-mail. But how many do you think she received like that" One is too many. |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 09:54 am     Ain't that the truth, Prisoner. |
Readonly | Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 10:04 am     What the world needs now, is love, sweet love.... |
Prisonerno6 | Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 10:08 am     No not just for some, but for everyooonnnee... |
Marysafan | Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 10:14 am     Actually Starr said she received "a lot of vicious email" even more than during the Presidential campaign when she was very pro-democrat. She was quite upset by it. There are days when I am so distressed over the lack of tolerance among people today. Some days it seems to be getting worse instead of better. I am very grateful that I have this place to come to so that I know that people can get along in spite of their differences. We can agree to disagree and treat each other with respect. |
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