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Djgirl5235

Monday, January 20, 2003 - 05:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I too agree with mama-bat, and also want to know what everyone thinks of the previews for tonight with the slip about him driving a bulldozer a few weeks prior to the girls coming...?

Missy2

Monday, January 20, 2003 - 05:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hello everyone. I just tuned in for the first time last week and I was shocked to see Alex! haha. She was like a stick figure and about as important as the lamp on the table. What lamp you say? Exactly.

So anyway, what a funny show this is! I couldn't stop laughing at the absurdity of it all! Evan does look like Gaston! I can't wait to tune in tonight.

And you know he has to be rich already or coming into money - TOO FUNNY.

Fruitbat

Monday, January 20, 2003 - 05:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I didn't see that but if it is in a promo I doubt they thought it was a slip. He is being honest about previous jobs. The premis is the he *just* inherited the money.

Grooch

Monday, January 20, 2003 - 07:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The butler did it: He guessed reality TV's Evan was no moneybags

By Donna Petrozzello
New York Daily News
Posted January 20 2003


The butler may be discreet, but he's not stupid.

Joe Millionaire major-domo Paul Hogan says he suspected Evan Marriott was not a real tycoon early on in the filming of the hot Fox series. But his suspicious weren't confirmed until the last day of production. "After day 10 of shooting, I thought, `If this guy's got $50 million, I'm the Queen of England,'" Hogan said.

For the reality show, 20 women flew to a French chateau in hopes of winning the heart of a man they were told was a dashing millionaire. On the final day of taping, Marriott picked his woman, who then learned he was merely a $19,000-a-year construction worker. No $50 million inheritance. No mansion. And no butler. The third of seven episodes airs at 9 tonight on WSVN-Ch. 7, WFLX-Ch. 29.

Hogan says his training kept him quiet.

"It was evident to me that he didn't make money the old-fashioned way. But there are plenty of people today who have tremendous wealth and still shop at Kmart.

"There's a lot of people who, after they inherit money, want to inherit the lifestyle. So I was curious about him."

But Hogan is a member of the elite International Guild of Professional Butlers, a group that stresses the need to keep employers' personal lives and habits confidential, says the group's vice chairman, Werner Leutert.

"You can see from watching him on the show that one of the challenges of a butler is to handle any situation with aplomb and make everyone at the chateau feel special."

Even a faker.

Despite Hogan's credentials, the show's executive producer, Jean-Michel Michenaud, says that to safeguard the final twist, he chose not to let Hogan, and dozens of the crew members, in on it. The 52-year-old Hogan opened (and closed) the show's first episode with a fireside monologue, a la Alastair Cooke. But when the butler spoke, 18.6 million viewers didn't hear the plummy upper-class voice of an Englishman.

That's because Hogan, who's divorced, spent 26 years in the Australian diplomatic service. He retired 10 years ago as consul at the Australian Embassy in Buenos Aires, then moved to the United States.

"I came across the idea of buttling, and I thought, I'd done 90 percent of that job when I ran embassies, so I decided to reinvent myself as a butler," he says. "I've been doing it for four years now."

Professional butlers are expected to be knowledgeable about wines, the niceties of fine dining, entertaining guests and having good manners.

The butler had an easy time coaching Marriott.

"Evan is a decent sort of bloke. He enjoys beer and fast food and likes to talk about football."

The show's timing was perfect for Hogan, who had returned home to upstate New York last July after a short stint working in the Caribbean. Looking for a new position, Hogan called his butler's guild agent, who put him together with Joe Millionaire's producers. The job sounded like fun, says Hogan, although he had never before watched any reality TV.

Hogan is still drawing a Fox paycheck, shooting commercials for Joe Millionaire that will be seen shortly.

Hogan watched the first one with buddies at an Elks Lodge and was shocked to see how much of his footage was used.

"I thought I'd be on the screen for 10 seconds," he says. "The whole time we were shooting, I thought, `How in God's name will they make an entertaining program out of this?'"

Seamonkey

Monday, January 20, 2003 - 10:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This guy could have a future in front of the camera..

The Butler, I mean, not Evan.

Grooch

Monday, January 20, 2003 - 10:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Don't Cry for the Misled Misses of 'Millionaire'

"Millionaire" Evan Marriott told reporters he didn't get much construction work last year.
By Lisa de Moraes
Monday, January 20, 2003; Page C07


HOLLYWOOD

To lie, or not to lie?

On TV, does it matter?

TV critics are outraged that female contestants vying for the attention of Evan Marriott on the Fox reality series "Joe Millionaire" were told he's worth $50 million when he's actually a construction worker who made $19,000 last year.

But save the tears: The contestants on these find-a-mate reality series are coming out ahead anyway. Let's face it, they aren't actually looking for That Special Someone. Like contestants on all of these reality shows, they're desperately seeking 15 minutes of fame, on the talk show circuit, which will hopefully lead to a correspondent's job on "Access Hollywood" or, if they're very, very lucky, a four-episode guest-star gig on "Boston Public."

"What does it say about Fox and the current state of network television that the show you have at the top of your [press tour] presentation -- that's really delivering for you and that you're obviously quite proud of -- is based on a lie?" one critic bellowed at Fox suits on Saturday, the final day of Winter TV Press Tour 2003.

Another said that duping the babettes of "Joe Millionaire" was as bad as telling a contestant who'd correctly answered all the questions on ABC's "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire" "Sorry, we don't have a million dollars to give you."

Fox Entertainment President Gail Berman said she thought the women were treated fairly.

"I think that when people get involved in these unscripted shows these days, they know they're in for a ride," Berman said.

"The women who participated in this show had a good time." And all have agreed to participate in post-show publicity.

Including talk show appearances.

We rest our case.


Speculation has been mounting that it's the viewers Fox has deceived, not "Joe Millionaire's" female contestants, about their leading man's net worth. To date, this speculation is based largely on the discoveries that: Marriott did some underwear modeling, worked as a bellman and attended a private school, and that construction workers generally make more than $19,000 a year. Plus, of course, his last name is Marriott.

Critics sensed a trust-funder.

Berman fueled the speculation by becoming guarded when asked whether she anticipated backlash, should it turn out Marriott has family money.

"We have told you that we took a man who made a modest living and we dressed him up and we "Pygmalion"-ized him and said that he had $50 million. We kept saying that that's what we've done.

"We have presented our millionaire -- or the individual we dressed up as a millionaire -- accurately," she continued. "What we presented to the American public in our promos is accurate. We are not lying to them."

Asked if she was talking about his net worth in any way, shape or form, she replied, "No, I'm not." Such a shame it would be should Marriott turn out to be a genuinely wealthy guy who is posing as a poor man posing as a wealthy guy. He seemed so Gary-Cooper-in-"Mr. Deeds" during Saturday afternoon's Q&A -- all hunky and plain-talking and unassuming.

"Can you help us do this math?" One cynical critic asked. "Some of us have been struggling to figure out how you could be working in construction for so many years and be making $8 an hour."

"Well, I can set the record straight pretty easily," Marriott replied slow and easy. "I don't know if you remember last year, a little thing called September 11th, where the economy took a dive and Evan didn't work for half a year. So if there is any question as to whether Evan was in construction, all you have to do is drive over to the Pasadena Union Hall. I'd love to call over there and tell them that whoever wants those records can have them. I made, and I'll tell you -- it's nobody's business but to set the record straight -- I made $29.54 an hour.

"A lot of the reason I did the show is I had such a bad year financially. I couldn't afford a bed."

Marriott says his parents are comfortable but not extremely affluent and that his father worked two jobs, as a banker and teacher, and was a Marine Corps reservist.

"We weren't living in poverty, but my parents struggled to make sure my sister and I had nice things," he explained. Another cynical critic wanted to know: "Why did you do the now-infamous underwear ads?" "Because my mother has seen me in my birthday suit. I didn't think she'd really care," Marriott replied.

One slightly less jaded reporter asked Marriott whether he would have done the show had he known that his life would be so closely scrutinized.

"I don't know if I enjoy the fame," Marriott reponsed. "But I tell you what I get a kick out of and it's really sappy and you'll get your puke buckets out, but the other day . . . a kid came up with a little truck, and his parents wanted me to take a picture with him. And I thought it was really cool because as a kid I loved trucks.

"It's freaky to me -- I was on a backhoe eight weeks ago, and now I'm somebody that somebody wants to get near and touch."

Marriott may not have a lot of money -- we hope -- but he has one of the most affluent young audiences on network TV.

Only NBC's "Friends" and "ER" have higher ratings among 18-to-49-year-olds who pull in $75,000 or more a year. That demographic is the Holy Grail of Madison Avenue.

The show beats NBC's No. 4-ranked "Will & Grace" and CBS's fifth-place "CSI" in that super-demo.

Grooch

Monday, January 20, 2003 - 10:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Just don't treat him like 'Joe' Schmo
By Gary Levin, USA TODAY

LOS ANGELES — Joe Millionaire isn't bothered by tabloid stories that say he's gay, or a "woman-hater," or secretly rich.

Evan Marriott, TV's Joe Millionaire, says he resents being labeled stupid.


He says he's none of those things: "If I thought there was any scandal in my life, I wouldn't have done the show to begin with," says Evan Marriott, 28, the construction worker who has duped 20 women into thinking he's hugely wealthy and handed Fox TV's newest reality hit.

What really bothers him: comments from viewers that label him stupid. In a largely sympathetic appearance before TV critics here Saturday, the high school dropout says he's "ashamed of not finishing school" and disappointing his family.

"I'm a 28-year-old who's been trying to find himself pretty much since I've been in the working world," working as a bellman, doorman and backhoe operator. He hated a brief stint modeling revealing underwear.

And he says he comes from a modest background, his father juggling three jobs to keep the family afloat. "We weren't living in poverty, but my parents struggled to make sure my sister and I had nice things. I had Ralph Lauren clothes, but they were bought from TJ Maxx."

Though not a fan of other shows like Blind Date, "I think I was portrayed rather well" on Joe Millionaire, Marriott says. "I was who I was through the whole show, aside from the secret I was holding" in pretending to be rich. And his once-in-a-lifetime shot at fame, however fleeting, is "the only thing I have over a graduate from Harvard or a doctor."

Fox executives say they don't mind the bad-mouthing shows like Joe Millionaire have generated from critics, confirming the notion — at least when it comes to reality TV — that there's no such thing as bad publicity. "There's nothing scarier than a show coming to television that no one's talking about," says Fox Television Entertainment Group chairman Sandy Grushow.

But at least one member of the Fox family isn't too happy about it. "I watched an episode of Joe Millionaire," says Wanda Sykes, who's starring in Wanda at Large, a midseason comedy. "I never thought I'd say this, but, boy, I wish I was going to UPN."

Grooch

Monday, January 20, 2003 - 10:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
OH NO, LOOK OUT, JOE

By BRAD HUNTER


January 19, 2003 --

Be warned, Joe Millionaire - it's time to give MoJo the heave-ho.

The leggy Indianapolis blonde has not only let it slip that she's interested in your "hefty" bank account, but she also has a ritzy background that includes beauty pageants, appearances on other TV shows and an ambition to be a pampered princess.

That's the inside word from those who socialize with Melissa Jo Hunter, who is among the final five contestants who will appear in the third installment of Fox's hit reality romance show tomorrow night.

The five are competing to get their hands on hunky heir Evan Marriott's make-believe $50-million fortune.

An Indy bartender, who says he has known Hunter for "about three years," reckons she is well qualified to go all the way and snare Joe Millionaire, as he says she always sticks her hand out when a suitor flashes money.

"She hangs around with a lot of credit-card millionaires," said Rob Sabbatini, the owner of the Rock Lobster Bar in Indianapolis, where he says Hunter is a regular.

Sabbatini says Hunter's favorite drink is vodka and Red Bull - although she rarely pays herself.

The guys she hangs with are quick-draw cowboys who race each other to pull out the plastic to cover her drinks, Sabbatini said.

Hunter, who calls herself MoJo on the show because there were two other Melissas in the original 20 contestants, is at ease in front of the cameras.

That's not surprising, her friends say, because she has plenty of experience in the spotlight.

The 25-year-old was a semi-finalist in the Miss Indiana pageant a few years ago, contested the Miss Hawaiian Tropic flesh fest and had a stint as a Coors Light beer promotion girl.

She also has appeared in television and print advertisements for Motorola and has made cameo appearances on the TV shows "Charmed" and "Son of a Beach."

But she got her lines tangled in last week's episode of Joe Millionaire, where Marriott is parading as heir to a $50 million fortune but really used to be a $19,000-a-year construction worker.

"He [Marriott] just seemed to stumble into money, and I hope he gives me a chance to get it," MoJo said.

She then quickly corrected herself, "get to know him."

That's not surprising, said one of Hunter's acquaintances who asked not to be identified, as Hunter aspires to be a "princess" with all things paid for.

"She dumped a friend of mine's brother for an older guy because he had more money," the Indy insider said. "Other people say she's really nice."

The source also hinted that tomorrow night's episode will not see MoJo booted from the Marriott's French chateau.

But after her slip of the tongue last week, she could easily take over from Heidi Crowe as the show's villain in the eyes of viewers. Crowe, the uber-competitive 24-year-old from San Diego, was a surprise elimination last week but won few fans when she became petulant after her elimination.

Part of tomorrow night's show includes Marriott taking one of the girls on a date to the legendary dance saloon Moulin Rouge.

A spokeswoman for the popular Paris tourist destination said she thought the date was low-key.

"They arrived, they filmed and they left," she told The Post. "They did nothing special."

Grooch

Monday, January 20, 2003 - 10:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope she wins.

Grooch

Monday, January 20, 2003 - 11:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
'Mojo' hopes to turn 'Joe' to TV jobs

By Marc D. Allan


January 18, 2003

Let's start with the obvious: Melissa Jo "Mojo" Hunter won't answer many of your questions.

Like whether she won the heart of "Joe Millionaire" on Fox's hit reality show, which airs at 9 p.m. Mondays on WXIN .






Or how she reacted to learning that the man she and the other 19 contestants thought was worth $50 million is a $19,000-a-year construction worker.

Her response is simple: You'll find out in 30 days (or less), when the series ends. She has to keep that secret, even from family and friends.

What the 25-year-old Indianapolis resident -- one of five finalists -- can say is that she loved the experience and doesn't regret it for a minute. Oh, and by the way, she's not a gold digger who was after Evan Marriott ("Joe") for the money she thought he had.

"People need to get to know the true Mojo," she said by phone; "once they find out who I really am, they know I'm the farthest thing from a gold digger."

Hunter describes herself as "a city girl with a country heart," a graduate of Broad Ripple High School (1995) and IUPUI (2000) who was a loan officer when the show was taped and now works in commercial real estate. She declined to say where.

"I've worked hard for everything I have in life, and I've come a very long way," she said. "I'm the first person in my family to graduate from high school, let alone graduate from college with a triple major.

"I'm just getting my foot in the acting door, and I'm wanting to pursue that much further. I was single at the time of the show, and I was looking for love. That's what took me on the show. I got a trip to Paris" -- contestants weren't paid but received three weeks in Paris -- "something I probably would have never been able to do."

Because access to the "Joe Millionaire" contestants has been severely limited, the vacuum of information about her has been filled with speculation. She was listening to WNOU-FM (93.1) the morning after the show's Jan. 6 debut and heard a segment called "Mojo, Friend or Foe?"

"Some of my ex-friends were calling in and talking all this b.s.," she said. "One girl called in and said, 'She's just money-hungry. Anything free, that's Melissa Jo.' Well, you know what? That girl was not complaining when she was going out to bars with me and getting free drinks. I don't beg guys for free drinks. They just offer them to me. Why not accept? It's so funny. Those people just want their little two minutes on the radio, but they won't finish the whole story.

"It hurts that I can't call up the radio station and defend myself and say, 'That girl's lying. She's only talking (trash) because her boyfriend used to want to date me.' But . . . my skin's getting thicker, and I just think it's funny as hell now."

As for the caller who derided her for working at Hooters, Hunter said she worked there for two or three months to pay for college.

"I did what I had to do. I didn't have a rich mom and dad to pay my way through school or anything like that. I had to survive on my own. I was a waitress there, and a lot of the girls were p- - - - - off because I would get lots of the modeling and promotions, and I was only there two months."

Wank and O'Brien, WNOU's morning team, said they heard from the pro- and anti-Mojo camps. Their feeling? "I don't look down on those women at all," Dave O'Brien said. "I think they're having a good time, doing something they thought would be fun, and if anybody seriously thinks they're going to find their mate on a TV show, then they need some help."

Hunter said she applied for the show after a friend sent her an e-mail about the casting call. She had no idea "Joe Millionaire" would be as popular as it is (more than 18 million viewers last week; about 164,000 in central Indiana) or that she would have such a pivotal role.

She'd like to parlay "Joe" into an acting career. "I want to ride this wave as long and high as I can. I've done 'Charmed' and 'Son of the Beach' as extras, but this is . . . a seven-episode show."

Then, reverting to secrecy, she added: "I could be on every episode, or I could be booted next week. Who knows? You've gotta watch to find out."

Grooch

Monday, January 20, 2003 - 11:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
THE FOX-TV reality series "Joe Millionaire" has become one of the season's hottest shows, and it's being watched closely by scores of local residents because one of the remaining five contestants, 28-year-old Alison Ball, is a 1992 graduate of Saugerties High School.

"We're all glued to the television," said Ball's mother, Kathleen. "We're all thrilled."

If you're not one of the 18.6 million people who watched the show's debut on Jan. 6, here's the premise, simple yet deceptive one: 20 women are whisked to a chateau in France to compete for the affection of 28-year-old Evan Marriott, a.k.a. "Joe Millionaire," who supposedly has just come into a $50 million fortune. The deception is that Marriott actually is a construction worker who makes $19,000 per year.

The seven-episode, unscripted series was developed by the creators of the reality series "Temptation Island."

Ball survived the first two elimination rounds on "Joe Millionaire." During the show's premiere, a score of anxious women were winnowed down to a dozen, each advancer receiving a pearl necklace in the show's weekly closing ritual. In the second episode, which aired Jan. 13, Marriott eliminated seven more contestants.

Ball and four other women - Zora, Melissa M., Sarah and Melissa Jo - will remain on the show and take a four-day trip to Paris with the supposedly rich bachelor in the show's next episode.

Under the terms of her contract with Fox-TV, Ball is not permitted to give interviews about the show - which was taped ahead of time - until the seven-episode run comes to an end, according to Josh Governale of Fox's publicity department.

But Ball's relatives are more than willing to talk - and brag about Alison, one of eight children raised in the family's home on Old Stage Road.

"I've heard from a lot of people that the word has gotten around," her mother said. "I have seven sisters, and there's a few of them that are quite excited about the whole thing. I think everybody in the family probably had their eyes on the show."

Bill Ball, Alison's older brother and an administrator with the Cairo-Durham Central school district, said his sister wants to break into acting and thought the show would help her.

"She was looking for an opportunity to get in front of the camera and get some exposure," he said. "It's a goof that this is the forum she found."

After graduating from Saugerties High School - in the same class that produced "Saturday Night Live" cast member Jimmy Fallon - Ball attended Ulster County Community College and went on to study at SUNY Buffalo. About a year after college, she moved to Manhattan, where she works as a graphics specialist for the high-end clothing company Armani.

She was invited to the "Joe Millionaire" casting party in New York by a girlfriend, according to her mother, who said Ball did not tell her parents she had auditioned for the show until three days before she headed off to France for filming.

"That was kind of a shock, but we talked to her about it and thought it would probably be a great experience," Katherine Ball said. "And we trust her. She's an independent person. She's quite able to make her own choices."

So does Mrs. Ball think her oldest daughter can find true love on "Joe Millionaire"?

"I think she went over there with an open mind. Whatever happens, happens," she said. "I think every woman, somewhere deep in her heart, has a little dream that a fantasy like that could happen. We used to talk to her about meeting her Prince Charming when she grew up."

Fruitbat

Monday, January 20, 2003 - 05:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So are we ready to watch Mojo do her stuff to stay in the game? I expect she will really push it. The new enemy of the women.

Ryn

Monday, January 20, 2003 - 06:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
lol very quiet here.....

Mojo had a hat problem ;)

The portrait was BADDD imho.

Those of you not watching this yet, Celebrity Mole is repeating on ABC Family right now and Kathy Griffin is hosting.

Seamonkey

Monday, January 20, 2003 - 06:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
A hat? A portrait?? I'll be watching or taping.. as usual there are conflicts (Everwood, Joe, tennis for me, so the Celebrity Mole repeat isn't in the mix here.

Looking forward to the hat!

Webkitty

Monday, January 20, 2003 - 07:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Mojo and her hat. She didn't bother me as much as Sarah did tonight. I think Mojo is after the money, (and the good times it can bring, she's a party girl for sure) but I think Sarah is REALLY after the money. There is just something about her that rings false to me.

I think Melissa is actually falling for the big lug! (I didn't like the portrait)
I also liked how she was thrilled at getting to go to the Eiffel Tower, even in the rain.

I felt bad for Zora, she was so uptight that she couldn't even eat that lovely french meal.
I think she might have genuine feelings for him too, but feels unworthy.
Does anyone else think the real reason he sent the redhead home was because he slipped up and told her he had been pushing a bulldozer just three weeks before? I mean, it seemed as if after he pushed her for her feelings, the air was cleared and they were getting along ok, then the slip. Time for her to disappear.......

Oh, which one of the girls was the one who said she would not like being lied to?

Demeter

Monday, January 20, 2003 - 07:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Zora is the one he made the slip about it being three weeks since he drove a bulldozer.

She is intimidated by the wealth and I think it would have cleared the air a bit if she had been able to tell him that, but she is a bit reserved.

Sarah came through as someone definitely in it for the money.

Alison is the one he sent home. She apparently was putting on airs, and he picked up on that. She told him she didn't think they had anything going for the future, then relaxed a bit and had fun. I think it was best she went, because even if she could "adjust" in the momnet, how could he ever really know why she changed her mind?

I don't care for Melissa much. Mojo I'm not sure about but I think she is not really into him either.

I'm still rooting for Zora, but since we all know he's been flirting all over the place since the show began to air, I hope it's not her because that means she's in for some pain.

Ketchuplover

Monday, January 20, 2003 - 08:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
In reality this game will have one loser and 19 winners.

Seamonkey

Monday, January 20, 2003 - 08:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just saw THE HAT.. arrgh..

Max

Monday, January 20, 2003 - 10:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, MoJo MUST lose the hat! God, she looked like a hick! First clue that your fashion choices are less than wonderful: the man brings you several designer dresses to choose from instead of that asymmetrical-hemmed thing you brought for yourself. Now, why on earth do you want to wear that cheap, shapeless, UGLY hat with a designer gown?! Good grief.

Melissa was excited about the Eiffel Tower in the rain. Wish I believed it, but she's pulled the "Ooh! It's so great!" thing twice now (once when picking grapes and tonight with the 'portrait') and then turned around as soon as Evan was out of earshot and said she REALLY felt exactly the opposite. She's playing the "I want whatever you want" game and he seems to be buying it hook, line, and sinker.

Sarah was the only one he kissed! I'm sort of surprised by that, actually. I didn't get the vibe of her being in it for the money, at least not as much as I get it from the two Melissas, but it's hard to tell. I have to say they both picked up on the tango pretty quickly. As much of a clod as Evan usually is, I'm surprised at how quickly he can learn to dance elegantly.

Now if someone would just dress him to look less like a schlub.

Zora is definitely suffering from a self-esteem problem. She feels intimidated by his money. Wonder what she'll say when she finds out he doesn't have any....or does he? :)

Alison...what can I say? She's clearly the smartest one of the bunch. I like her. I liked that she looked at him with disdain when he didn't know how to open a bottle of champagne correctly, took his gum (!) out of his mouth and stuck it on something in front of her, turned his nose up at even TRYING the French food, and generally looked like he just walked off a construction site. Why is it that they could get the girls all dressed up and then let him walk around Paris in faded jeans?! (Okay, on one date, he dressed up.) Anyway, I was with Alison all the way in her disgust with him. Right up until the necklace ceremony where she seemed to be upset about being rejected. Heck, I woulda been saying, "Thank you!" She didn't want to be there, but she acted all hurt. I got the impression it was more about losing face than any real feelings she might be able to drum up for Evan.

I'm with Ketchup - there's only one loser in this game, and it's Evan.

Tabbyking

Monday, January 20, 2003 - 10:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i was surprised at alison's reaction, too! they had already talked and she said she didn't feel any chemistry. perhaps it was being the ONLY one not chosen. if it had been 2 gals of the 5 who weren't chosen, it might have been different.

or maybe she just loves emeralds!

Zachsmom

Monday, January 20, 2003 - 10:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This guy is a complete unrefined dufus!!!

"She's got a hot rocket body"

OMG! Last time I heard a man speak like that was an immature drunk 21 yr old college student! (and yes I did slap him!)

<sighs and shakes head>

I think Zora knows something is up..I like her..she seems genuine..and she doesn't get into the catty stuff the others are getting into..no "kiss and tell" sharing the date stuff with the others..


why oh why do I watch this show??

how many months until BB?????

Seamonkey

Monday, January 20, 2003 - 10:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes.. every time he opens his mouth in his analytical monologues, it gets worse and worse..

All I can see is that hat.. but why didn't he just TELL her it was hitting him in the face?

Basically this all seemed like a waste of a wonderful city.

Oh.. and I know now why I like the Butler so much.. I mean he's good, and ironic and all but how refreshing to have someone "in the know" on a reality show who is allowed to give negative opinions or to say a mistake was made..

Alex.. was that another unfortunate outfit or the same one from last week? I hope she's at least working off camera as a production assistant or something..

Max

Monday, January 20, 2003 - 10:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yup, Seamonkey, a guy with a shred of style would have just taken it off her head and said something smooth like, "It's a great hat, but I'd rather look at your beautiful face." :)

Alex? Did they even SHOW her outfit? All I caught was a glimpse of some furry thing near the neckline. Of course, she was only ON the show for about 10 seconds and two short lines. Hope she got paid a lot for such a throwaway part!

Seamonkey

Monday, January 20, 2003 - 11:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Furry around the neckline and dumpy/lumpy longish skirt..

Misslibra

Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 01:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Mojo's hat was horrid and somebody should have told her so. She look nice all except for the hat.
Out of all the girls I like Zora to ZM, she seem to be very genuine to bad he isn't. I don't see any real chemistry or any of them hooking up in reality. Everyone is in it for the wrong reason.

One question ... why is
Alex there again? I have not read this whole thread and maybe someone already answered this question. They have the Butler and for the little time she is on camera why is she even there?