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Ericka1012 | Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 04:16 pm     Now let me get this straight...Fox thinks it's ok that someone got a "keep your nose clean and we'll expunge the records" deal when arrested for felony theft...but it's not alright to have your picture taken in a nightie and no control over that picture. I think they are talking out of both sides of thier mouths and furthermore I think they knew Frenchie had a great chance of winning and they didn't want THIER American Idol to belong to the FLUFFY BODY POPULATION! |
Webkitty | Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 04:17 pm     I won't vote for her. I was getting a negitive vibe from her before, and this just sealed it. That mugshot is just scary. |
Pagal | Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 04:20 pm     Who's Nikki Finke? |
Webkitty | Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 04:21 pm     Texanni, Nikki MCKIBBEN didn't write that article, lol. I also read that about Trenyce and her roomates. She doesn't get along. |
Fruitbat | Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 04:34 pm     She is a tough one. It comes across. I do think this will hurt her and possibly Josh could suffer from his news too. |
Squaredsc | Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 04:58 pm     tough cookie. |
Pagal | Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 05:01 pm     What was that Square? |
Fruitbat | Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 05:06 pm     Square, what does she look like? And it is after 8pm by the way. |
Jbean | Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 05:17 pm     scandal in the american idol house. lol. thanks for the articles grooch and wilsonatmd. |
Spygirl | Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 05:51 pm     I realize the news is bad for both Trenyce and Josh, but in both situations, Fox made the decisions that are reflecting poorly on the participants. I also realize Josh could have said "no, don't pull any strings to keep me in the competition"...but who here would be that self-sacrificing that you would throw away a chance at fame and fortune? Military people are still people - they aren't so committed to their service that nothing distracts them from that service. As has been pointing out extensively recently, many military people go in because of the benefits and college money, not because they want to go overseas and fight a battle in Iraq. In addition, even though Trenyce's situation may be the same or worse than what Frenchie did, she did tell Fox the same as Frenchie. It was Fox's decision to ignore one and punish the other. That is NOT Trencye's fault. So...I think it would be a big shame to see anger and disdain directed at the two contestants for what Fox has done. And P.S. DANG! I just re-read that article and I really can't believe the venom the author expresses towards Josh himself. The political views of the author come screaming through and it is clear that he/she (no idea who Nikki is) used this situation to further his/her own views in a very negative and hurtful way. I also can't believe they somehow accessed that email. incredible. |
Rissa | Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 06:12 pm     I am finally up to speed. LOL Dang Spygirl, you are so right., the author of that article has some major anger issues. Whatever their opinion on Josh's leaving/returning/winning, etc... why the heck is he being treated like public-enemy #1 by the author? Also, regarding the email and the phone call Josh's mom made afterwards? If it had been me, I can easily see myself lobbing some well-chosen words through the phone-line and hanging up. Their saying that Josh's mom didn't take the time to deny anything means nothing to me. re: Trenyce. I have said before that she is the most unhappy performer I have ever laid eyes on. It's like someone has threatened to shoot her puppy if she doesn't get her tush on stage. DH and I think she is just painfully shy but it comes across as irritated. I can easily see the public saying that her being a criminal explains the attitude and she is gone. The arrest was 1999, right? For me that is 4 years, long enough for her to have been caught again if she had NOT changed. I have no problem with keeping her on the show... after all, let's remember Tim Allen's beginnings. LOL |
Grooch | Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 07:17 pm     RYAN WON'T STAY IDOL By MICHAEL STARR March 26, 2003 -- THE TV industry has voted and here's the result: "American Idol" host Ryan Seacrest is getting his own talk show. Seacrest, who doubles as a successful Los Angeles DJ on Star 98.7, has inked a deal with Twentieth Television for a half-hour talk show, according to The Hollywood Reporter. The talk show would be syndicated, although it's not known at this point if it would be targeted for a daytime or late-night audience, or when it would debut. Talk shows hosted by Sharon Osbourne and Ellen DeGeneres are slated to debut in the fall. Sources tell The Hollywood Reporter that the show will be "designed around" Seacrest's hip style and his ability to interview celebrities. Seacrest, who reportedly is earning $1 million for hosting "American Idol 2," recently inked a contract extension with Clear Channel Radio that will take him through the end of 2005. A Twentieth Television spokeswoman had no comment on the Seacrest talk show. Seacrest also was recently named the regular substitute host for the popular "Rick Dees in the Morning" radio show. Seacrest is no stranger to television, having hosted a syndicated, Merv Griffin-produced game show, "Click," back in the late '90s. He's also hosted "Gladiators 2000," "Wild Animal Games," "Ultimate Revenge" and "Total Rush" and was a correspondent for "Extra." Twentieth Television is a division of News Corp., which also owns The Post. Link |
Grooch | Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 07:31 pm     READY FOR A FIGHT By DON KAPLAN -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Singing soldier Josh Garcin, with "American Idol" pal Trenyce, is keeping his hair short and his body buff. March 27, 2003 -- 'AMERICAN Idol" favorite, Lance Corp. Josh Gracin, is on 24-hour notice to be called up for active duty in the Iraq war. "Joshua has been very up front with us from the very beginning that he might have to leave us," Ken Warwick, a co-executive producer on "American Idol," told The Los Angeles Times. "He's in contact with his commander, and he might have to go. He's got a lot to lose." Gracin, 21, is among the nine finalists left on the popular reality-talent show. But he is also a U.S. Marine with the 1st Force Service Support Group. He is on leave from his unit is based at Camp Pendleton, near San Diego. Fox and the producers of "Idol" have already told Gracin if an order to deploy forces him to leave the show, he can return next season as one the show's top 10 finalists. "That was a weight off his shoulders," a source close to Gracin told The Post yesterday. But the loss of a contestant to military duty would add a new and melodramatic element to the hit talent show - which is already the biggest new series of the year. The Marine is married, has a young daughter and is currently living with the other finalists in a luxurious secluded location and could not be reached for comment. "Within each unit is a section that might not be called up, and Joshua belongs to one of those sections," said Staff Sgt. Chad McMeen, a member of the Marine Corps television and film liaison office in Los Angeles who has been assigned to keep Gracin in top shape in the event the Lance Corporal has to ship out. The pair usually exercise three or four times a week together. "We're making sure he maintains the Marine Corps standards," said McMeen. "As you've seen on the show he maintains his haircut, his weight and obviously physical fitness is a large part of being a Marine," he said. McMeen said Gracin also works out regularly on the Nautilus equipment, treadmill and stationary bike in the "American Idol" house and does stomach crunches and push-ups with McMeen. "We're doing standard Marine stuff," McMeen said. "The thing that's hard to find is a pull-up bar, so we're working on that." Early yesterday morning Gracin and McMeen ran about three miles, "but it was on a 20 percent grade," said McMeen to point out that the work out was rigorous. Link |
Texannie | Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 08:21 pm     Webkitty..then who is.... Nikki Finke???? |
Wcv63 | Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 08:32 pm     An angry and bitter woman who is pushing her political agenda and views by denigrating a singing Marine because he wasn't shot and killed like other Marines. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 08:37 pm     And I bet she can't sing and certainly won't be defending anyone anytime soon. |
Spygirl | Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 08:58 pm     Wcv - SPOT ON with that description of the author!! LOL |
Ladytex | Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 09:11 pm     Absolutely ... you are right on with that description of that author, Wcv |
Tabbyking | Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 10:10 pm     spy, thanks for saying 'many' and not 'all' when you described military benefits that attract people to the service. my husband did not give 22 years, including 2 tours of viet nam, to the military for the benefits! my son is devastated that he has been turned down for military service or academy appointments due to substandard hearing. he even had us file a 'waiver' request, and today i got a letter from a colonel turning him down yet again. he even had a presidential nomination for the academies. they had better not ever try to draft my son. i will wave that letter in their faces! not good enough then? not good enough now! i feel bad for josh being thought of in certain ways he may not have considered. when he tried out for AI, there wasn't much indicating we were heading for war with saddam. (hell, i am still trying to figure out when we went from osama back to saddam!!) so, i am not going to judge josh by what others write or say about him. if his orders are to ship out, i see him going along with it. you don't screw with a military career on a 'maybe'. i like josh, but don't expect him to get past position 4 on american idol. his military career has to come first. if they (AI) have truly offered that he can come back at another time, i don't see the military being 'paid off' or whatever to keep him now. the military doesn't want you, if you don't want them. it used to be impossible to get out of the military. now, if you don't want to be there doing your job, the military doesn't want you there doing that job. in real terms, josh could walk. |
Scorpiomoon | Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 10:16 pm     Holy hamburger!!! Looks like Nikki Finke is more colorful--and fascinating character in her own right--than any of the AI contestants! Info on Nikki Finke: Nikki Finke, born around 1953, is a controversial and opinionated journalist. With great clips and resume, Finke writes well and has terrific sources. She's been known to butt heads with her editors in her aggressive pursuit of the story. Since June 2002, she's had a column (DeadlineHollywood.com) in the LA Weekly. Finke has a broad journalism background. She worked for the Associated Press for five years, Newsweek for four years, The Los Angeles Times for four years, the New York Observer for three years and New York Magazine for three years. Nikki served as a foreign correspondent in Moscow and London. She reported from Washington D.C.. She's covered wars and political campaigns and the shenanigans of Hollywood executives. Since the late eighties, Finke's specialized in the entertainment business. I've heard many stories and criticisms of Finke, including: * She's headstrong and difficult. * Nikki is independently wealthy and does not need to write for the money. * Nikki works from home, mainly by phone, and has times when she doesn't get out much because of health problems. * An editor told me he didn't hire her because he feared she wouldn't turn in her copy on time without a lot of hand holding. * "Finke owes her career to the Gay Mafia," says a studio executive. Whatever that means. It's a fun quote. * She's an attention-seeking hotshot (though she never uses the word "I" in her articles, keeps the focus on her work and not herself, and refused all interviews regarding her lawsuit with Disney and the New York Post). * She's litigious (though she's only once filed suit, and once, in 1993, had a lawyer write a threatening letter on her behalf). A beautiful young woman, Finke was a "Jewish American Princess" says one journalist who knew her in the 1980s and was dazzled by her. JAP is not an accurate term to describe Finke. She comes from more of a "society family" than a Jewish one. She went to snooty private schools all her young life, made her debut at the International Debutante Ball in New York City, graduated from Wellesley in a three-year accelerated program, and was married (announcement appearing in the New York Times) to an international businessman she'd known since childhood... Unlike the stereotypical JAP, Finke isn't materialistic, didn't take her husband to the cleaners in the divorce, and works hard. Cathy Seipp described Nikki Finke in a 1993 Buzz magazine piece as "semi-sane," prompting a humorous letter to the editor by Finke. Finke hosted a radio show from 1995-98 on the entertainment industry on Santa Monica public radio station KCRW. She had such guests as New York Times Hollywood reporter Bernard Weinraub, as well as screenwriters, producers, directors, musicians, authors, studio moguls, network honchos... Burned out on entertainment journalism, Finke left New York magazine in 2000. She could see the handwriting on the wall: that none of these publications wanted anyone to write truthfully about entertainment. Finke decided she wanted to become an editor somewhere and she interviewed at several large newspapers. But then the recession hit journalism - newspapers are the first to feel recessions because their classified ads are bellweathers -- and all the jobs dried up. It was across the board and it was horrible. This was early 2001. Nikki decided not to leave LA and instead took an offer to become the executive editor of the Los Angeles Downtown News and expand it. Her plans were written up in a gushing 8/27/01 LA Times article. Nikki dreamed of a kind of New York Observer filled with politics and business and culture. Everyone was excited. Finke took the job. There wasn't much money. It was hard work but she loved it. And then 9/11 hit and Nikki realized LADN could not fulfill her dreams for it. According to Finke's lawsuit, she approached the New York Post with a scoop about Vivendi about to buy back Barry Diller's entertainment assets. (Stupid Edgar Bronfman Jr had sold them to Diller.) Her articles made a big splash, and the Post business section offered her the staff job of chief entertainment and media business reporter in New York. Finke and the newspaper arranged for her to stay in LA and have a contract covering showbiz. After she got more scoops, the Post again offered her a staff position. Then suddenly she was fired by the Post in February 2002 after, according to Finke's lawsuit, Disney executives wanted Finke's head on a platter for her articles on Disney and its Winnie the Pooh royalties lawsuit. Ron writes www.laexaminer.com 11/21/02: "Within the inner circles of magazine and print journalism, many a disparaging story about Finke has been circulated/continues to circulate. But that probably has more to do with the way her fearlessness and dedication expose the lazy work ethic of other scribes, rather than with her admittedly larger-than-life...personality. Her kindred spirit is the filmmaker Michael Moore, but whereas he is all about "Roger & Me," she in many ways is all about "Michael & Me" (as in either Michael Ovitz or Michael Eisner.) She is to entertainment journalism what Moore is to political commentary, calling a David Spade a David Spade. Opinionated, entertaining, sometimes questionable. Keep it up, Ms. Finke." |
Seamonkey | Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 10:28 pm     Yep, bitter. |
Stcmom | Friday, March 28, 2003 - 04:58 am     Scorpiomoon thanks for the backgund info..it really explains a lot. It seems as if this article reflects the authors political bias and cynicism towards the military and the entertainment industry rather than her feelings about Josh. Its just too bad that he has to feel the sting of her pen. Regarding Josh's singing instead of fighting in the war, I think this is also a way of serving his country. If he can be an instrument in boosting the morale of the men and women fighting in the front lines then more power to him. We must remember these soldiers aren't machines. They are people with feelings, emotions fears and doubts. If seeing a fellow marine who is pursuing his "american dream" can inspire the troops then Josh is doing his part in the war effort. I also believe that the military will be in a dilemma if they deploy Joshua before he gets eliminated from AI...just imagine the effect on the morale of the nation if he does get hurt . It is bad enough to hear about men and women we don't know losing their lives for this war, how devastating would be to the nations psyche if this young man that everyone has gotten to know would get hurt ...I think the military would like to avoid that. |
Pagal | Friday, March 28, 2003 - 06:33 am     I'm confused. Can someone remind me about how the competition for the wild card spots played out? I know Clay came in third in his group but how did he (and the others) come back to compete? Was it all of the 32 who didn't make it in first round picks? I'm asking because I just watched Clay's comments on the video "Don't give up" at the AI website and he says he was called late at night to say he had been chosen as the wild card and had to get on a plane to fly out the next morning. He also talked about his feelings about being America's Choice for the wild card. Anyhoo, I guess I'm saying it sounded like he knew he was America's Choice before the results show even aired. This would mean the hour wait wouldn't have played so heavy on his mind since he already knew he was the chosen one. Can someone help me out here and go listen to the video? |
Stcmom | Friday, March 28, 2003 - 06:47 am     I think this interview happened after he won the wildcard spot so of course he knew he was America's choice. The timeline i guess would be...he lost the spot to Kim L on group 2...then he went home to await the the decision of who will be on the wild card...Judges chose wild card semi-finalist from the top 32 and also from some that didn't make it through the hollywood audition. They only announced the wild card contestants after results show for group four so Clay was informed of the decision late that same night (I think)....the next week was the wildcard show and I do believe they had no idea who was chosen during the results show because there was such anxiety in Clay's face that night that couldn't have been faked. The interview you were talking about came out after the final 12 positions were filled. Hope this helps... |
Pagal | Friday, March 28, 2003 - 06:55 am     It does! Thanks! I couldn't remember how the events unfolded to save my life! |
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