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Webkitty

Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 06:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks! Ok, now I remember that she thought Greg had pretty eyes when they were by the bonfire.

I missed the first half hour, I forgot to start the other VCR, then, the tape ran out! So I only got to see a small segment of it.

I don't find Greg that attractive. I would be shocked if Charlie isn't the one standing at the end. His suits don't fit him well, or maybe its just the way he's built, (or his posture) he always looks bunched in the shoulder/chest area when he wearing one.

Hermione69

Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 07:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Whose suits? Charlie or Greg?

Charlie has grown on me too. What a cutie.

I wish I had seen last night, but I don't have my VCR set up to tape one while I watch the other and I watched AI except for some flipping.

Conejo

Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 07:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Herm, I don't know how he could stand that hair hanging in his face - I know when my hair gets too long and even starts to hang on my forehead it drives me crazy. That's what I'm saying.

Webkitty, I was thinking the same thing about Charlie last night during the show, he is kinda hunched over in the shoulders - maybe because he is so tall and is used to bending over? Kinda has posture like "Joe Millionaire"!

Webkitty

Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 07:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Charlie's suits. Sorry, I was over in the Potter thread...........

Karuuna

Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 08:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ryan was on our local news last night (he's from Vail), and answered a couple of questions. I kind of think he didn't get picked from the way he answered, tho I can't be sure.

They asked him if he would ever do this type of show again - he said very strongly "definitely not". He also said how difficult it was for him to watch the affection between Trista and some of the others. He said at the time they were going thru it, he had no idea she was "connecting" with anyone else.

Max

Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 09:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, I just remembered something that irritated me last night.

When Trista and Charlie were on their date, Charlie made a point of telling her that if she decided to go beyond kissing with any of the other guys, into an intimate experience, he wasn't interested in participating. He basically said he felt that level of "sharing" her would not be acceptable.

I was surprised and irritated at her reaction to that. When she was 1:1 with the camera, she said that would be her decision and she would do what she felt was appropriate.

That's all well and good, but I seem to remember that when she was on the other side of the fence, she pretty much felt the way Charlie did. She just never said it to Alex as directly. My double-standard alert went into high gear.

Anyone else get that?

Conejo

Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 09:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Max, I caught that too! Do as I say, not as I do type mentality. I thought they both agreed that they would not cheat on each other, because they both knew how much it hurts to be cheated on (maybe this agreement doesn't start until after she chooses)

Why does the host always come up to Trista when there is only one rose left and say "well, Trista this is the last rose"?? Does he think everyone is stupid and can't do the math. I mean if she had 4 roses and has passed out 3 it would stand to reason that everyone would know that there is only ONE rose left!

Realbiz

Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 09:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
conejo - probably for "dramatic(climax) impact" of the rose celemony!

Conejo

Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 09:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Realbiz, I know your right it just irratates me to see him do the same stupid routine every week and then slink off into the background!

Maybe I'm just having a bad day!

Realfan

Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 09:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Russ didn't bug me QUITE as bad last night--I think he's more sincere than I first seemed--but I still don't like him much. I think it's funny the other women didn't like him either. Trista has a blind spot for him.

Notice that among Trista's final four are the guy who gave her the bracelet (Russ), the guy who wrote her a poem (Ryan), and the guy who wrote her a song and sings (Greg). Must be part of her value system?

Ryan is TOO sensitive. He reminds me of the sensitive guy in the Brendan Fraser movie "Bedazzled". He asked the devil to make him sensitive, so he's sitting on a beach with the girl he loves, and sees the sunset. "It's so beautiful!" he emotes, then starts crying--after reading her a love poem and singing her a song. Then a hunky rough guy comes by, offers the girl a beer, and she runs off with him, leaving sensitive man in the sand--sobbing.

Max, I caught that, too. I didn't think it was an unreasonable request of Charlie's. In fact, I thought it was classy. I guess Trista wouldn't feel it was cheating because she hadn't committed to Charlie yet. Also, I think she felt he was snatching her choice from her. But I still think she'll end up with him.

This show is SUCH a far cry from Elimidate. When Jamie wanted to kiss Trista to "test" their connection, for instance--on Elimidate, they seem to think it's required. And it's very gross. I thought it was cute that Trista wriggled out of that one.

Hippyt

Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 10:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'll be interested to see more of Greg,since he didn't get an individual date. He does have beautiful eyes and a great smile.
I think Charlie will end up being her pick. When they showed them joking around at the end of the show I thought they looked really comfortable together,and were having a great time.
Russ needs to go home. He did manage to tone it down a little. When Trista picked Charlie first though,you could just READ the killer look,and the jealousy there.
I think poor Ryan is going to get his heartbroken.

Denecee

Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 10:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Missed the show because of AI but love reading all of your posts.
It irratates me to no end when the host comes out when there is only one rose left!! It's like on Fear Factor, the host guy explains to the contestants what they have to do, then again to each contestant right before they do the challenge!!!
Charlie telling Trista how he wouldn't be into her kissing the other guys, duh! BUT, if he was the star of the show, you cannot convince me that he wouldn't be kissing more than one girl. I'm not saying that because he told her that, that he's a bad guy. Why should he get to kiss her and not the other guys? To me, a kiss can tell alot between two people and unless there is a commitment between two people, a kiss is ok.

Hermione69

Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 11:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I didn't see the show either Denecee, but from the post that mentioned what Charlie said, I got the impression that he said MORE than kissing is what he would not be comfortable sharing with the other guys. I don't think he said not to kiss anyone, I think he drew the line at "if you choose to do more than kiss, I don't want to participate." Can anyone who saw this clarify?

When I read that, it made me think about the Bachelor when it was pretty apparent that she slept with Alex on that last date. I wondered if maybe that is not in the back of his mind and he's wondering if she is going to do it again.

Hippyt

Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 11:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes,Hermione that's what he was saying.

Denecee

Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 11:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
oh! I'll step down. Thanks for setting me straight Hermione

Bakerygirl

Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 11:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
She wouldn't kiss Jamie because she said it was their first date.. Well that didn't stop her from kissing Russ after being with him for 5 minutes. She kissed Ryan and Charlie. So I guess she just didn't want to kiss Jamie and used that as her excuse.
I read an article this morning about Russ and Trista. It said they knew eachother before the show, that they had met twice before. That breaks the rules of the show. But I'm not sure if it's true, but it kind of made since. It said the charm braclette he gave her had a meaning to it that only she would get.. It was saying 3rd time's a charm.. Plus they did act like they knew eachother on the first show, they got so close to fast and they were talking like they knew eachother. Just thought that was interesting.

Cricket

Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 06:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Max, I too thought the conversation with Charlie was interesting regarding intimacy. I saw Trista in an interview a week or so ago and she so much as said she needed to be intimate with some of the men in order to choose the right one. It didn't seem that Charlie wanted that to happen, so I wonder if she told him if she was ever intimate with any of the others.

Something I picked up on last night was that she seems to act a little more helpless around Charlie. She said that she liked that he holds her hand and puts his arms around her (unlike her dislike of 'touchy/feely' Russ) and when she went outside at his request towards the end of the show, all of a sudden she was cold and wanted him to make her warm. There is a definite intimacy between those two that I don't see with the other men.

If she does pick Charlie...good choice. He is an absolute doll and those dimples...ummmmm.

Urgrace

Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 07:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Greg is not going to be there after next week. She had a huge smile and her body language was more intimate with the other guys, but when she gave Greg the final rose she had a look of resignation on her face.

It looked like the order in which she gave out the roses is the order she has them ranked in her mind.

Tabbyking

Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 09:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
well, if this doesn't beat all....with so many good shows on last night, we taped 'bachelorette'. today we went to watch it. for some reason, the picture 'taped' but the audio was still from what we taped before on this same vhs tape. we had video of trista with audio of governor davis's state of the union address!!! it was so strange to see trista give russ a rose because 'education needs it.' LOL

at least we know now why she picked him!!

Djgirl5235

Friday, January 24, 2003 - 04:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Tabby, that's absolutely priceless!!! I've decided to watch the Bachelorette & tape AI each Wednesday until the Bach is done... I agree with Urgrace, and the pecking order with the roses. She's definitely got an order in her mind, and I'm almost positive that she has her final two in her head and is just going through the motions now...

Hermione69

Friday, January 24, 2003 - 05:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What was the order again?

What would surprise me if that gives it away is that ABC not edit it to rearrange the order. We wouldn't know if they did that. Kind of like Survivor rearranges the votes for maximum suspense.

Needmylifeback

Friday, January 24, 2003 - 06:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The order of the four that she picked...

Charlie
Russ
Ryan
Greg

Hermione69

Friday, January 24, 2003 - 07:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
THANKS!

Dahli

Friday, January 24, 2003 - 08:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Who were the four that she had one on one dates with...? I think they were almost the same as her final pick, but Greg wasn't one of them, so I am trying to remember who the 4th single date was? Jaime maybe??

Ryn

Friday, January 24, 2003 - 09:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Went on dates with 3 - and she picked those three (everyone but greg)

Dahli

Friday, January 24, 2003 - 11:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
ah that pesky math again - 3 - not 4 doh!!
thanks

Muse

Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 09:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm glad that someone else noticed Trista's double standard. In an interview she said she would have dumped Alex if he had chosen her since he connected with Amanda as well (wasn't clear if she meant emotionally or sexually, but I got the impression that she meant emotionally). But she's doing the same thing. She's said she's surprised that she's developing feelings for more than one man, and she seemed to think it was okay to be intimate with more than one guy. Um, yeah. Make up your mind, Trista.

I actually like Ryan more than Charlie. Charlie seems like a decent guy (pretty clear that he and Trista seem to have the most natural chemistry, IMO), but at times he seems a little arrogant. Ryan's sensitivity and poetry is played up on the show, meanwhile, but I get the impression that there's more to him than that. I also liked how he wanted to make sure that Trista liked him for reasons besides the poetry. :)