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Grooch

Friday, March 28, 2003 - 07:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Texannie, I hope you weren't referring to me in your post. I only posted the article. I have not critisized Josh in any way on the boards. (Well, I can't remember if I critisized his singing or not at any point.)

Crazydog

Friday, March 28, 2003 - 07:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have said absolutely nothing about this war either, Texannie.

And I agree with Fruitbat, the criticism about the whole decision to pull strings and keep him on the show is on the AI producers and the Marines. The only criticism I have about Josh is that I don't like how he sings and I don't like how he's making the wife he temporarily left behind to be a martyr for having to deal with his voluntary decision to compete on the show.

Spygirl

Friday, March 28, 2003 - 07:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, here is the part of the article that refers to Josh's wife:


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Asked "Who is your American idol?" Gracin replied his wife, high school sweetheart Ann Marie, who takes care of their 11-month- old daughter, Briana. "She's dealt with a lot, with me being gone."




Ummm...what else would you expect Josh to reply to this question about who he believes is his American Idol???? It wasn't as though he randomly said something about how tough this entire experience has been on his wife in order to paint her as some miracle wife to gain some sympathy. He simply recognized that it has been hard for him to be gone and he answered a question in an appreciative way.


Crazy, I think this is what bothers me about what you said after reading the article:


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The more I read this article, the more Joshua's situation disgusts me. I dislike him even more now. To me, it confirms exactly what is going on with his situation. Conspiracy.




It is your perrogative to feel that way, it just seems a little unfair to Josh, IMO.

Webkitty

Friday, March 28, 2003 - 07:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't have an opinion about Josh and his military career vrs his AI competition, but I do have an opinion about how I feel about him as a performer.
He just never did anything for me, right from the start. It had nothing to do with his military status at all. he does that thing with his lower lip/chin/jaw that just bugs me, lol
I hope that I can come to these threads and say that without anyone thinking I have a hidden agenda. I mean this in the most sincere way, and am not saying this with any hint of sarcasm at all (just to make myself clear, lol)
That's all I wanted to say

PS: same for Trenyce, I didn't care for her before the info on her was revealed, so, the info itself did not make me change my mind about her.

Fruitbat

Friday, March 28, 2003 - 07:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Webkitty. I am not a Josh fan. Don't like his music or image. And I have not liked Trenyce from the beginning either. I look at the entire package not just the voice. They both do well in the singing dept.

The issues surrounding Josh are a different story.

Different posters, different opinions. No one is wrong.

Bandit

Friday, March 28, 2003 - 08:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
(By Beachcomber) "Fruit and Crazy - see, we've been right all along!"

What kind of a comment is that? I thought we were all having an adult discussion here, not trying to "win", and decide who's right or wrong.

Sorry, but I think that that comment was uncalled for.

Heyltslori

Friday, March 28, 2003 - 08:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Spygirl, did I hear somewhere that you think Carmen is going to win??

Spygirl

Friday, March 28, 2003 - 08:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LORI!!!!! mumbles..."where is that trout bucket when you need to whack someone?

Llkoolaid

Friday, March 28, 2003 - 08:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
ROTFLMAO, Thanks girls I needed that laugh.

Walker

Friday, March 28, 2003 - 08:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
you are so right ladytex.

Fruitbat

Friday, March 28, 2003 - 08:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bandit.........???? Beach was refering to our hunch that strings were pulled to keep Josh here. Nothing more than that. The article, if it is accurate, just confirmed that guess.

Spy, give me some of that trout when you find the bucket. I smack Carmen detractors. She is my baby!

Bandit

Friday, March 28, 2003 - 08:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fruit and Beach - My apologies then, I misunderstood. No hard feelings?

Spygirl

Friday, March 28, 2003 - 08:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL - Fruit. You want me to give you the trout bucket so you can turn around and whack me with it??? NO WAY!!!

<sprints off with the bucket in tow>

Texannie

Friday, March 28, 2003 - 08:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
No, Grooch and Crazy, wasn't even referring to anyone here at all! I was talking about the "public" criticism he has received.

Rissa

Friday, March 28, 2003 - 09:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Uhoh, will have to keep vigilant for flying fish and redfaced Fruitbats. :)

Fruitbat

Friday, March 28, 2003 - 09:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
......off in search of crazy woman running her a$$ off carrying a bucket......................

Bandit, all is well. :)

Bandit

Friday, March 28, 2003 - 09:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP

Beachcomber88

Friday, March 28, 2003 - 10:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Fruit for the support. I think what's great about these boards is that everybody is free to voice their own opinion and see who else agrees. I'm not trying to "win" anyone over.

I think I've been clear from the beginning about my feelings for the Marine. I don't like him. I don't like his image. I don't like his twang. I don't like the potential of him coming back next year in the final ten.

That being said, I have _never_ said anything about being anti-war, anti-Marines, or unpatriotic. Yes, I realize some things are out of his control. I realize that there are many people who find his being in the competition as the greatest thing since sliced bread. I choose to disagree. I simply don't feel that it's fair for the competition and will find it a travesty if he indeed is back to croon again next year.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. I am done discussing Josh...please no more!

Azriel

Friday, March 28, 2003 - 10:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've been haunted for the last few days with the sound of Olivia Newton John singing in my head 'Let's get physical, physical, let's get physical....' ~mutter~ I still don't understand how the hell she was picked as a country rock judge.

Wargod

Friday, March 28, 2003 - 10:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks, Az, thanks alot.

<wargod wanders off singing, "Let's get physical, physical, let' get physical....">

Kady

Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 12:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
~whacks Az upside the head~

I hate that song!! I had it running through my head too! LOL :) Now you have put it back in.

<kady runs screaming from this thread>

Azriel

Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 01:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
crookedangel Wow, Kady, you nearly knocked my halo off.

Webkitty

Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 07:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I've had the song that Carmen sang ~Wild Angels~ running through my head. My cat gave me an odd look when I was humming it off key to him this morning

Kady

Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 09:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I love your Angel Az!! And yes, I've always known there was a devil beneath it.

<kady now wonders what Carmen will be singing this week..hope Az likes it.>

Alisons

Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 07:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There must be something about Carmen and her songs going through people's heads, because I keep singing "Hopelessly Devoted".

Tabbyking

Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 08:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
yeah, but with olivia's voice!

Serate

Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 12:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My opinion only, but as far as Josh goes, HE knew there was a chance he'd have to leave, being in the military. So did FOX and IDOL execs. So personally I don't think he should be given a space at the same level next year. IF they think he deseves something, mabye say you'll make it to Hollywood, but it's up to you to make it to the final 32.

BTW, I think he's an awesome singer. I'm a TOTAL country fan but did not like his singing "Aint Goin Down Til The Sun Comes Up". He just didn't have the lungs for it [breathed at the wrong times]. Don't think he'll be in the final 4, especially if the girl boy girl boy trend continues. Clay and ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoben will be in the final 4.
Cory and the Hercules guy [I can NEVER remember his name] will go before Josh.

As for Trenyce, *shudders* not a fan of hers before OR after the news on shoplifting. And since I'm ranting, I just can NOT stand her keeping time with her bottom 3 fingers on the hand she holds the mic with. Petty, but I don't like it!