Archive through October 18, 2002
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Archive through October 18, 2002
Grooch | Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 08:50 am     Irulan may be a nutcase, but Marc is the BOSS and he is just plain STUPID to be doing even a quarter of what he was doing that night. He is soooooooo lucky he didn't get sued. And since he is the BOSS, even if Irulan or any of them are groping him, he is the one responsible to act like a boss and put a stop to it. If he wants to date one of them, then he should quit his job so he isn't their boss. Stephen surprised me by doing the right thing and going to Marc and telling him to leave the girls alone if he knows what is best for him. Maybe the guy actually does have some brain cells afterall. Anyway, these people are truly something else and they keep shocking me. And it's what, only the 4th show? (P.S. I wouldn't be surprised with this group if we find out next week that Marc is married. ) |
Weenerlobo | Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 09:29 am     Soooooo happy that somebody else thinks that Irulan is nutso. Oh please! "He assumes that because I'm up in his room and in his bed that he's gonna get some." Gee, I wonder what gave him that idea? I'm sure it doesn't have ANYTHING to do with climbing all over him for hours. Before Marc did anything with Irulan, he asked her if she wanted to. He asked "Do you want to come up to my room?" She assented. He didn't hog-tie her and drag her up there by her hair! When they arrived at the Real World apartment, Irulan is the one who ordered Marc into Arissa's bed! Shees! AND, if this Marc guy has hit on every single RW girl, then how come Irulan is the only one who had a real problem with him? Apparently the other girls were able to tell him to step off. Can you imagine? TRISHELLE telling a guy to step off? (Calming down and realizing it's not worth getting all that ticked about) Frank was pretty stupid for calling Arissa a Black B. I know he was joking and he didn't mean anything demeaning with it; it was just a stupid thing to do. Irulan is really bugging me the most; you never know when she'll do a 180. Oh wait, yes you will; when it benefits her. |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 10:09 am     Remember, Frank is the <> who left his feces at the scene of the place he trashed.. I still must view the episode.. the VCR in my bedroom suddenly decided to eat tapes so I taped it on another VCR (I was watching Judging Amy). 007 |
Essence | Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 10:19 am     I don't think Arissa has a chip on her shoulder. She had a legitimate beef with Frank. Why on earth would he think it's ok for him to call her (or anyone else) a Black B...a B at all if you don't know the person well enough to know how and if they would take it as a joke. That was just plain stupidity on his part. Personally the use of that word as a joke falls on deaf ears here. I don't think it's a joking word. 'Dem's fightin' words to me.  |
Laura11103 | Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 12:23 pm     Grooch, no doubt Marc is a <> but is it illegal for a boss to date an employee? I also think he's stupid because they COULD accuse him of sexual harrassment (even though I don't think that was the case since Irulan willingly went to his room and invited him into her bed). I just think Irulan made a big mistake and is crazy to put all the blame on Marc. I see her causing more problems in the future that's for sure, she's a troublemaker IMO. After reading about that frat prank that Frank got charges brought up against him on, it gives me a bad impression of Frank, but I do think he didn't realize how badly he screwed up by joking like that w/ Arissa, I think they have that kind of repertoire and so he thought he could say anything which of course he can't. I also think Alton should've just had Arissa's back rather than being the confronter in the situation like she asked him but I guess that's Alton for you, Mr. take the bull by the horns (remember when he confronted Frank in episode 1 about the T and S situation), I thought the talk b/w Arissa and Frank was constructive and don't see it happening again. So they haven't focussed on Trishelle in the last 2 episodes, I wonder what's brewing over there, she's not one to take a back burner... but then again they ALL seem to require lots of airtime. 007 |
Kitt | Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 01:38 pm     Wow, what a show last night's was! Nobody attack me but I did feel a little sorry for Frank, after what he said. The boy's just so naive you can tell he had no clue that wasn't a good thing to say. Education education education, there's no point being angry at him, you just have to explain the facts of life to him. As for Marc... what a <>! I agree Irulan should take a lot of responsibility for what happened, and was very wrong afterwards to tell such biased stories about it, but what was Marc thinking?!?! If the things he did weren't stupid enough, he did them in front of a camera too!! I'd sack him instantly if I were his boss, or at least move him to a different position. The worst thing he did was to turn it around and act like it was something to do with their jobs, he should have said something like he got carried away but he seemed to want to link their behaviour last night to their behaviour on the job, and I really do see that as the beginnings of harrasment. Interesting to see what develops... if I were in charge of the Real World I'd be looking for someone else to be the group's boss to avoid litigation! 007 |
Moderator | Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 04:30 pm     Just a reminder to discuss the show, and please leave the name calling out. Thank You 007 |
Lurkin | Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 09:05 am     ESSENCE- I didn't mean that about Arissa for what Frank said that was wrong. I mean about her in general. Just wanted to make that clear. |
Misslibra | Friday, October 11, 2002 - 08:02 pm     I'm not sure it was a good ideal to have this seasons RW setup in a Las Vegas Guess Suite. I mean, couldn't they have found a nice home for them to live in. I mean with all the gambling, and the booze flowing. And it seems almost every-time I see Trishelle she looks like she been drinking. I'm sure her Father is not at all happy with what he has seen his daughter doing on the show so far. I can only wonder how I would feel if I was in his shoes watching my daughter do some of the things she is doing on TV. And I guess Irulan was trying to see how far Marc would go with her. To be truthful I really don't know what she was thinking, except if she get in good with the boss she wouldn't have to do much work maybe?? And with Marc I have nothing good to say about him so I wont even say anything. |
Weenerlobo | Monday, October 14, 2002 - 10:29 am     Hmmmm - Just heard on the radio news that Marc has been fired from his job. Interesting. |
Max | Monday, October 14, 2002 - 11:52 am     Well, Marc SHOULD have been fired as soon as his manager saw the tape of last week's episode. I've never seen such UNPROFESSIONAL behaviour in a manager in my life (and I've seen some doozies)! What in the heck was he THINKING!? It's one thing to act like that with EMPLOYEES when no one is watching, but to do it ON CAMERA?! The guy must be truly DENSE! He opened himself and the company up to all kinds of potential lawsuits for sexual harrassment. I don't care if they ARE in Vegas, there are still rules of common sense at play. Good grief! |
Weenerlobo | Monday, October 14, 2002 - 12:17 pm     LOL, Max. You said it! |
Konamouse | Monday, October 14, 2002 - 12:48 pm     According to the local newscast (Las Vegas) on Sunday night (11pm), Marc *was* fired from his job shortly after the airing of that episode; allegedly for getting into the bed with Arissa when she said "no". (ed. I think he should have been fired for ALL of that evening's activities). |
Kitt | Monday, October 14, 2002 - 01:40 pm     Yey! At last someone saw sense. I thought they'd have to do something, his behaviour was inexcusable. I wonder if they'll cut him out of the rest of the episodes, or play down his role or something. |
Lombadier | Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 10:25 pm     I finally caught a glimpse of the Real World Las Vegas tonight. I saw three episodes and was totally turned off and disgusted. This is the worst cast ever. My how things have changed since my favorite RW, the San Francisco season: the show has gone downhill and I won't be watching anymore. As for the manager that came on to the cast member, he should have been fired looooong ago. |
Seamonkey | Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 10:53 pm     I just caught up with the last two episodes tonight.. that marc guy.. wow.. I mean Steven tried to reason with him and he wasn't getting it AT ALL.. he seemed to think the issue would be one girl being jealous if he paid more attention to another (hmm, which was actually Steven's problem this week) and then the other un-bossly stuff about coming on strong about rules but saying he might break them.. Bad move for Bunim, et al.. usually they at least get a boss who knows where to draw the lines. I'm glad Steven finally reconsidered his decision.. from what I could see the others were not really comfortable but they all wimped out in my opinion by not trying to come up with a plan as a group. Trishelle, to me, was acting all innocent but really loving the drama and was a bit disappointed that Brynn wasn't banished (of course if the replacement was someone Steven had the hots for, Trishelle might be the next to wield a fork).. Steven seems awfully judgemental to me and he and Trishelle are acting like pigs.. sharing rooms like that requires some sort of discretion.. Looks like some are about to turn on Trishelle next week anyway. |
Babsbunny3 | Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 05:52 am     Can anyone give me a good recap? Details plz. I missed the show last night. |
Cliotheleo | Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 10:03 am     Sure Babs, The show started with shots of Frank being awakened by Steven and Trishelle going at it in bed. "The noise didn't bother me it was the slapping that woke my up" Frank said. Steven and Trishelle decide to move the love fest into the confessional (and turned the camera off) so Frank could sleep. The next morning, Frank suggests that Steven and Brynn switch rooms so that Steven and Trishelle can boink to their hearts content without disturbing anyone. Brynn doesn't want to move because, primarily, she's jealous that Steven is hooking up with Trishelle and not her. So she informs Steven, in a very snappy manner, that if he wants to share a room with Trishelle HE will have to move (I didn't quite get that part.) This provokes a "why are you acting so snappy around me" response from Steven. Cut to clips of the roomies saying how Brynn is jealous of Trishelle and how she's not coming out and saying it even though it's really obvious. Cut to Frank on the phone with his ex-g'friend. He's telling her about the whole situation when we suddlenly hear screaming and cursing and Steven and Brynn are going at it. She's yelling at him, shoving him while the Arissa and Iralan (sp?) pull her back and he's calling her every fowl name in the book. Apparently she's thrown a fork at him and she's telling the girls that she's never been so disrespected in her life. Steven gets on the phone with one of the producers and says, "I'm a big whiney baby and I want her gone, wah! wah! wah!" (paraphrased) Brynn calls home and tells her mamma that she's coming home tomorrow. Someone suggests that they have a forum and debate the matter. Everyone speaks their mind. Steven says "I was SO wronged and my whole life would have been ruined if I had thrown a fork at you, so I want to see justice and the only way this can be done is that Brynn leaves." (paraphrased) The other roomies don't want Brynn to leave but they won't come out and say it, they all just whimp out and say that it's Steven's decision all the while, Steven takes on airs. Brynn finally confesses that the reason she was mad at him is that she likes him and was jealous of his and Trishelle's relationship. Arissa or Irulan sugges that the two of them talk it over. Steven decides to "take pity before I send her a** packing" (paraphrased) and give Brynn a chance to talk, so they go out into the hall. The roomies gather around the security camera and watch them while we watch them (how surreal.) Steven has an epiphany that Brynn was simply acting like he did when he was "so young at 20" and now that he's reached the ripe old age of 24 his wisdom allows him to recognize this and take her under his wing and try to help her grow as a person and get to know herself better. Brynn signs off saying that from now on she'll say what's on her mind. Everyone hugs and some song I've never heard before about love and friendship plays. ~the end~ |
Bastable | Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 10:05 am     MTV has totally betrayed the original idea for this show. It was about seven unique and NORMAL, AVERAGE people coming together and learning how the worlds they grew up in are so much smaller than the world outside. Julie in NYC, Julie in New Orleans, Jon in L.A. Rachel in SF, Kat in London, etc. Now it's about sex, beauty, diva fits. It should no longer be called "The Real World." It's just as debased and sensationalistic as something on FOX. It used to be intelligent. Now it's just cheap. Disgusting. A shame. |
Car54 | Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 05:04 pm     From Zap2It: 'Real World' Cast's Boss Canned Wed, Oct 16, 2002 06:31 PM PDT LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) - Hitting on an employee is not the brightest move a supervisor can make. Especially when the acts are caught on camera. Such was the lesson learned by one Marc Portugal last week, when he was dismissed from his job at the company that owns the Las Vegas nightclub featured in the current season of "The Real World" on MTV. Portugal was fired after executives at N9NE Group, which owns the Rain nightclub at the Palms hotel, saw the Oct. 8 episode of "The Real World," the Las Vegas Review-Journal reports. The episode shows the party planner making repeated passes at two of the show's cast members, Arissa and Irulan. When Arissa resisted his advances, Portugal at one point said "Is that any way to talk to your boss?" He also got into bed with Irulan despite her protestations. "We have zero tolerance for such behavior," N9NE co-owner Michael Morton tells the paper. "Obviously, we were unaware of the things that were going on" when the series was taped earlier in the year. |
Misslibra | Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 10:13 pm     I don't have as much of a problem with the cast as I do with where they are living. I wonder if Trishelle and Steven forgot they are on TV, and that Mommy and Daddy would watching all of this. They are in the bed next to Brynn knocking boots. I could understand how that would bother Brynn, it would bother me. IMO Trishelle is showing she has very little respect for herself. It's clear to see that all Steven wants from her is sex, and she's given it up, with a smile. I hope they are using condoms at least. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 11:16 pm     Wellll.. there was one preview a couple weeks back showing Trishelle and Steven with a pregnancy test... so... I dunno.. |
Bastable | Friday, October 18, 2002 - 10:02 am     So many men who are obsessed with their "love" of women so often actually have little respect for them as individuals. Steven strikes me as one of those guys. Puppy-dog eyes or not, he's still a dog. Come to think of it, by the way he derives so much of his personal power from his ability to bed women, I don't think Steven has much respect for himself, either. The casting this year seems to focus on people who derive a large part of their identities from sex (Steven, Brynn, Trishelle). That's why the casting director should be sacked. Too much of the same thing--and how convenient that the common denominator will result in naked young people. |
Max | Friday, October 18, 2002 - 10:26 am     THe casting director did exactly what s/he was supposed to do: find a cast to perpetuate the theme "Sin City" for the season. The producers took the low road and managed to maintain consistency on it. Not my preference, but it is what they chose to do this season. Too bad Vegas couldn't have been seen in a more balanced light. There IS more there than just the casinos. Wonder if they'll ever go outside the city to Red Rock Canyon or the Valley of Fire or try to do ANYTHING that isn't related to sex, drinking, gambling, and partying. I doubt it. |
Kitt | Friday, October 18, 2002 - 02:51 pm     Seamonkey, the pregnancy test of a few weeks ago was for Alton's girlfriend (possibly ex-girlfriend) who he slept with before he came on the show. The test came out negative. |
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