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Texasdeb

Sunday, May 25, 2003 - 10:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Um, Um good - I wouldn't back away from the table anytime! This "Claymate" would love being around the table with our "velvet teddy bear"!

Tishala

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 01:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It's really none of my business, but I, like Kevin, have congestive heart failure and if I were his size and ate those recipes above, my CHF specialist would have a heart attack! Wow. Yeah Kevin might be able to manage his CHF with meds and walking, but he also needs to lose some weight--and it's not just a case of doing it for aesthetic reasons, either. To top it off, those dishes are incredibly high in sodium, and most of us with CHF are limited to 2000 mg of sodium a day....it looks pretty dangerous to me.

But then again, his health is really none of my business.

Nanarobin

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 07:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
FYI WARNING....Ruben will appear on 'Live with Regis and Kelly" Tuesday, 5/27...per a preview on today's show...think Clay was already scheduled to appear on Wednesday, 5/28...show is syndicated...so not sure what time it airs in your area.

Seamonkey

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 09:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Tishala.. well his health is none of my business, either, but maybe they can take the Ozzy Osbourne route and get a physical trainer. I know that Sean "Puffy" "PDiddy" Combs, when he did the hiphop making the band season for MTV, included some "boot camp" in his process with the contestants, not strictly for health but for stamina and discipline. And pretty soon, they can be doing workouts to Ruben's own cd!!

Sadiesmom

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 10:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Seamonkey, I don't think Ozzie's trainer is helping that much.
When I think of good trainers, I think of the one that they got for John Belushi when he made his romantic comedy. It drove him crazy, but they had a guard/trainer that kept him off drugs, and booze and on his diet. His friends said they never saw him look so good or be so happy as then. When the movie was over the studio let his guard go and Belushi fell back into bad habits. I think he had to sign a contract giving up all personal rights to the studio, otherwise he could have and would have fired the trainer.

The doctor discovered I have a heart problem in the last year, in a family where everyone else has a strong heart. So I have been given a directive to lose weight to a little under normal or die young. I am slowly losing weight, doctor said it is good so I do tend to obssess on others weight right now and I really try to fight it. People have to decide on thier own. That is it, although family members can help encourage, outsiders must not.

Ladytex

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 12:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey guys, can we limit the conversations in this thread to ooohhhing and aaaahhhhhing over our man Ruben? We've already been run out of almost every other thread on this board.

Prisonerno6

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 01:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
{A round of applause for LadyTex!)

Pagal

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 03:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just wanted to pop in and say 'thanks' to Ruben's mom for the Chicken Tetrazzini recipe. Tried it tonight and both my husband & I loved it!

Seamonkey

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 05:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ladytex.. I consider Ruben "my man". Oh, this morning when Rubin sang in the plaza for GMA, I noticed at least one fan in the crowd with.. guess.. a big teddybear.. and the teddybear was wearing, of course, a 205 tshirt :)

Ruben looked so comfortable up there on the stage.

(I suggested a trainer like Ozzy's because from what I read, he's NONjudgemental and works with what might help his client but doesn't put a heavy trip on them)

Nanarobin

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 05:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
SEAMONKEY...you are too Rubenized...he was on Today show today... GMA is on Wednesday, I think!!

LOL

I did see the 205 teddy in the crowd...too funny!Now those are diehard fans to stand out in the cold windy rain to see the guys!!

Seamonkey

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 05:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I never keep track of the names of those shows and I really don't like any of those shows.. ok whatever show was on this morning, the one with Katie Couric. Not sure how that translates to being Rubenized, but I do enjoy him very much.

Pagal.. that is cool about the recipe!! It sure sounded good to me.

Ladytex

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 09:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Seamonkey, I don't remember saying that Ruben was not your guy. I simply asked that we keep this thread for positive Ruben posts and for it not to change or get off topic, as so often happens around here.

Seamonkey

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 10:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ladytex, hope I wasn't sounding negative; wasn't my intention.

Tishala

Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 02:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUB was so great on TRL today, I thought. They were stuck inside in the Hamptons (which is better than actually walking the streets of East Hampton or Bridgehampton anyhow) and everybody got to hug Ruben--starting with Carson! Carson asked him a few questions, and the kids on the show seemed to really like him.

It's great to really watch him spread his wings now that he is out of the competition.

Prisonerno6

Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 05:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It's a slippery slope, Sea. You suggest a trainer, and the next thing you know, we have someone in here saying they don't intend to be offensive or vicious but asserting that Ruben will have a heart attack before the tour is over. :-)

I thought they both were great on the Today show yestersay. I love Ruben's laid back attitude; I like that he doesn't try to commandeer an interview like many celebs do. And I really enjoyed Clay's performance for the first time in a long time -- I didn't see the usual dramatization that I don't care for in his performances. Maybe he's taken laid back lessons from Ruben. :-)

Tishala

Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 10:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Just saw Ruben on the View, where he sang a bit of "Breaking Up is Hard to Do" and sounded really wonderful--maybe the best I've heard him yet. Ms. Starr fawned over him and teased him about not singing "Me and Mrs. Jones."

It was short but engaging.

Nanarobin

Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 10:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ruben did sound much better today but he looked even more tired to me....then he was on to CNN..he sure is busy today--but at least inside and out of the rain. He sang the best I've seen since finals on Regis/Kelly this morning.

And on THE VIEW he was soooooo polite with a lot of yes, ma'ams to the ladies...

Sadiesmom

Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 12:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
never mind

Seamonkey

Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 12:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Prisoner.. my suggestion for a trainer was as a good thing, considering Kevin now has congestive heart failure, so it was more something that the brothers could do together, since Ruben will be touring. (and the good poster folks over at realiiity.com already have a poll where people are opining about when Ruben will have his first heart attack.. I find that totally repugnant)

But, one person's slippery slope is simply another person's genuine love and concern.. my
post was pretty much in response to the article about Ruben's family. I'm a huge fan of Ruben and this is the Ruben fan thread.

Breaking Up is Hard to Do is a good one for him; I'm sorry I missed him in today's appearance :( I tuned in way too late, just saw a bit of Yoko Ono, who looks AMAZING for age 70! Wonder if Ruben got to meet Yoko in the green room? He must be meeting so many people as he travels.

Heavenly

Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 05:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I didn't see this posted on any of the threads
and I have never understood Simon Cowell's role
on American Idol. I noticed many people had
the same question, so I wanted to share. It
may be on the wrong thread.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,87857,00.html

Tuesday, May 27, 2003
By Roger Friedman


Simon Cowell


Simon Not Leaving American Idol: Stake Too High

Simon Cowell is not leaving American Idol.

I'm sorry I'm so late to the AI craze, but I did catch Cowell giving interviews last week to the effect that he "didn't know what he'd be doing" about a third season of this freeze dried, shrink wrapped phenomenon.

Let me tell you right now, lest anyone worry: Simon will be back. How do I know this? He's a part owner of the show!

Just three weeks ago a little-seen press release was issued by the very tony, white-shoe Boston law firm of Hale and Dorr. To whit: they advised Bertelsmann Music Group UK on its "acquisition of Simon Cowell's 50 percent stake in Ronagold Limited, their joint venture record company." Ronagold had been set up in 2000 so Cowell and BMG could put out records by their original UK Pop Idol stars Will Young and Gareth Gates.

Cowell, thanks to the firm, also set up a new company through BMG called SimCow, for new music, TV and film ventures. Of course, Cowell is still partnered in Simon Fuller's firm, 19 Entertainment and 19 Management, which controls all things American Idol. And I mean, all things.

All this stuff about people winning million-dollar recording contracts, competing for record contracts, etc? It's utter nonsense. All the contestants on American Idol are contracted to BMG Music Worldwide and 19 Entertainment when they sign on to the show. BMG has the right to exercise that option whenever they want.

Indeed, American Idol contestants sign an agreement with 19 Entertainment at the outset that limits them from taking outside offers. To date, Cowell has Kelly Clarkson, Justin Guarini, Tamyra Gray, Ruben Studdard, Clay Aiken, and even bounced participant Frenchie Davis all signed up for management and recording deals.

Simon himself conceded as much in one interview earlier this year. "I own the recording rights -- the winners and other contestants sign with my label," he told the Copley News Service back in February.

It was only last January when I reported in this space that Cowell was dining with BMG's Clive Davis and songwriter Diane Warren at Spago in Beverly Hills to discuss songs for American Idol season one singer Tamyra Gray's album. Warren has a song on Clarkson's album and will more than likely be included on the others'.

Cowell has been a longtime executive at BMG in England, in charge of finding teen pop stuff and merchandising it. He is personally responsible for an artificially mandated teen group and TV show called S Club 7. (The S stands for Simon.) His partner outside of BMG, Simon Fuller, signs the American Idol stars to management contracts at the same time that Cowell is signing them to his own boutique label at BMG in the United Kingdom or, now, to BMG's American labels RCA and J in the United States.

Cowell and Fuller produce the American Idol TV show, manage the singers they like from the crop that makes it to the winner's circle, and sign them to label deals at Cowell's company. It's unlikely with all that convergence that Cowell would miss being on the air during a season of AI.

Cowell and Fuller, meantime, make sure that the songs recorded by their American Idol stars are foolproof fluff.

Take the writers of Kelly's album tracks. They are all from the factory school of junk pop -- sort of the Hallmark card version of songwriting: Diane Warren, Desmond Child, etc. The idea is to be bland, bland, bland. Since there is no jingle writing anymore for commercials, this is what's replaced it.

The authors of two Kelly songs, Evan Rogers and Carl Sturken, according to one database, have authored an astounding 388 titles. Only three of those, however, are partially known as hits -- two for Donny Osmond and one for 'N Sync. Not exactly cutting edge, but that's not what's needed for the likes of the American Idol singers.

They need wholesome hits that can win them teen fans and the approval of parents who control their disposable income. Think The Archies ("Sugar Sugar"), The Partridge Family. Debbie Gibson. Tiffany.

Guarini, on the other hand, will lean more toward cover versions of old hits on his album. One of them will be the Righteous Brothers' "Unchained Melody," written by Hy Zaret and Alex North in 1955. (And not by Guarini, as some fan Web sites claim.) In England, Cowell and Fuller had a hit on that song with their British Pop Idol star Gareth Gates.

Justin Guarini's mom, Cathy, a former TV news anchor, told me yesterday: "Justin just got home on Friday night. And on Saturday morning Federal Express delivered his album. It's got a little of everything on it, even some Latin type songs."

As for the movie, From Justin to Kelly, which 20th Century Fox will release three days after Justin's album hits stores: "It's a summer movie for the kids, that's all it is. It's a lot of fun."

The movie is executive produced by Simon Fuller and written (such as it is) by his brother, Kim Fuller. Kim, who also wrote the script for the Spice Girls' movie Spice World, is listed as the co-author of the movie's title track, a song called "From Me to You," which has no relation whatsoever to the famous Beatles song.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 05:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope they allow Ruben to include some of his own songs.

Knightpatti

Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 08:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Saw Ruben on Regis and Kelly and he was adorable. (This is from a Claymate, too.) I think that he will do great. I hate to hear anything negative about him, because he really is a great person.

Ladytex

Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 09:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I saw Ruben on the halftime show of the NBA Playoff. He was talking to Charles Barkley, Magic Johnson, & Kenny Smith and he was wonderful. I loved seeing him!

Egbok

Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 09:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I caught part of that halftime show too and there was another man there with Charles Barkley, Magic Johnson and Kenny Smith but I don't know who he was and if he spoke with Ruben like the other three did. Ruben is really making the rounds on TV and I bet he's looking forward to some well deserved R/R. What a nice kid he is though for doing all these appearances.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 11:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good for him!! I've been on BBC and HBO and MTV all night so didn't see him. I'm sure this was way more fun than some of the interviews.