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Tess | Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 05:10 pm     I agree about ET tonight and I had the same feeling watching Oprah yesterday. It's all about Ruben. They virtually give no credence to the notion that Kimberly has a chance tonight which is sad. They also mentioned more than once about Clay forgetting the words to his first song, but left out the part about the producers having him learn the extra parts at the last minute. When they showed Ruben's friends at his old apartment, the friends were commenting unfavorably on Clay's performance of Unchained Melody (questioning whether anyone would buy a whole CD of his music) while loving everything Ruben. I haven't seen Clay and Kimberly get equal press coverage on any of these shows or equal support from the judges. |
Maris | Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 05:18 pm     yep Tishala, last week was probably the best episode all season. Aint no way I am missing the west wing finale. So picture and picture it is. |
Meme9 | Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 05:22 pm     I agree Tess, Clay and Kim deserved more coverage...I'm hoping that is because they are the final two and will get their reward and attention then...a girl can hope. |
Dreamweaver | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 06:06 am     Thought it was interesting that Ruben had all kinds of security for his visit home, whereas Kim and Clay didn't seem to have any. Also Ruben seemed to have an "Elvis" thing going on. This is just my opinion and don't mean to upset anyone. |
Meme9 | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 08:32 am     Yes, I've noticed alot of special stuff. Just saw Ryan on Reggis and Kelly, and Wayne B. (I also have seen the judges on other shows) The bias for Ruben is just unbelieveable. I really think they picked him long ago, and can't let it go. Ryan said on AI the we should vote for the most talented....(and that would be Clay in my opinion and it could have been for the one you picked as most talented) so why are the judges and Ryan going on all these shows and basicially saying Ruben should win. After see this going on soooooo muchhhhh, yeah I think the fix is in....and it's a shame. And the sad thing is, I WOULD NOT have felt this way had it not been for the bias of others. If we take a moment, an think what if they had done for Clay or Kim, what they have been doing for Ruben, I think others would have felt that it isn't right either. I really don't like feeling this way. But could the announcer and the judges let the public decide who WE think is the best. I'm fine if Ruben's fans vote him in, but I'm not fine with the bias from the show's staff. I think this hurt Kim, Clay, and even Ruben, just in different ways. On another note, I didn't watch last season AI, but from what I have seen of last years performers...this years performers blow them out of the water that's for sure. Clay, Kim, and Ruben are so much better at singing. |
Snee | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 09:07 am     i thought kim's version of 'somewhere over the rainbow' was better than tamyra's. |
Heavenly | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 09:42 am     I have also questioned many things going on with American Idol this year, but it's not Ruben's fault that Oprah is a fan and likes his music. Also, Ruben came out with a great marketing strategy with "205" and it's taken off for him. The styles of the last two finalist are different, but both are great in what they do. (okay, that sounded like Paula, but it's true.) |
Tabbyking | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 09:53 am     heavenly, i think it's more 'the judges' seeming to favor ruben that is bothering some. i don't think anyone faults ruben at all for any 'perceptions' of favoritism. i think it's fine for oprah to favor him; she is not a judge. personally, i wanted to throttle ryan seacrest when he made that hokey comment about voting for the best talent and this not being a popularity contest or however he phrased it. i think the judges and ryan are pissed that clay (and kim) are (were) such contenders and couldn't we all 'see that ruben should be the winner'? i felt like we were kindergartners being explained the voting process! i also felt we were being reprimanded. hello? well, i have been calling in for my choice. and i do base it on what i feel is talent. okay, tabby has vented about the show's less than seemingly fair takes on the contestants! |
Marameko | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 10:00 am     Yes, I am a Ruben fan, but I don't get all this discussion on things being slanted towards Ruben.I do think that the judges were glad to have truly talented singers in the final 3. As to Oprah.......her show, she can do what she wants. If you don't like her comments exercise your option to CLICK that remote. |
Ladytex | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 10:42 am     Thank you, Marameko |
Sadiesmom | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 10:43 am     Marmeko, it is partially the way things are covered in the main media. Fox network people are all over the place talking about what a talent Ruben is and not mentioning the others in the competition. It is not Ruben's fault, it is just an AI heavy hand. I go backand forth on why they are doing this, and they are doing it. It could be that they want a backlash and want him to lose or it could be to help him win. I just doon't know. But you have 2 ET specials on Ruben only and he being sold by the staff on all sorts of TV shows and he gets virtually no criticism (or any rest I worry) from the judges. I have heard him off key, I heard all of them off key at one point or another, all others get called on it, but not Ruben. I have heard Ruben, and ALL others off melody on rare occaisions, and only Ruben is never called on it. I do not think it helps him. He has a great (but strained at the moment) voice and should be allowed to use it and get critiqued like the others. I would also liked it if they had cut down on his singing in the medleys so he could get some rest for his throat. I do worry that they are pushing them so hard, that the powers that be do not care about the health or even the survivorship of their respective throats. I morphed from discussing the bias to the callousness of the AI people, but it is all connected. It is all for the show and they don t care about the contestants the way we do. Bah. |
Djgirl5235 | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 10:56 am     Well said Sadie! |
Monkeyboy | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 11:15 am     OT, Unchained Melody is the most repetive song ever! |
Texannie | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 11:19 am     Tabby..I got the feeling that Ryan said that cause he thinks everyone is voting for Rueben cause they like him. This morning if you saw Regis and Kelly, when Ryan asked Regis "who do you think will win" Regis said Reuben, but then Ryan asked "who do you think is the best singer" That didn't really get answered. I think Ryan thinks that Clay should win. |
Marameko | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 11:24 am     Winkin at Ladytex..........thank ya darlin'. GOOOOOOOOOOOO Rubennnnnnnnnnnnnnn ! |
Crossfire | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 11:24 am     *cringe* |
Tabbyking | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 11:29 am     i got the feeling ryan said that because of votes for josh, but the point it, he shouldn't have to tell us how to vote! i mean, heck, this isn't florida, for God's sake LOL tabby ducks as an orange with flippin and flutterin chads flies in the window..... |
Alisons | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 11:30 am     Well, Ruben has been compared to Luther Vandross and Barry White - both of which have serious health issues right now and whose future recording status is in doubt. So I can see how they would salivate over Ruben to pick up that fan base. |
Monkeyboy | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 11:48 am     Good point, Alisons. |
Heavenly | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 12:09 pm     Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion, and mine is that Ruben has been talked about so much for being too fat, etc. and not an idol, that maybe the judges feel he doesn't need any more criticism. Personally, if they want America to vote, Simon, Randy and Paula can silence their opinions from now until the end of the show. On the shows I've watched, the judges seem to change their minds from one show to another and are not consistent on their choices. That's why I'm glad I have a mind of my own. What's the big deal about saying something to Ruben about his performances? If you watch closely and see something you don't like, then he is not for you. I wouldn't go on the judges' opinion to make my decision. In my humble opinion, Ruben doesn't show much emotion one way or the other and is just doing his thing. Clay and Kim have shown class under tremendous pressure and proven week after week that they can handle the criticism with remarkable grace and calm, regardless of the opinions of the judges. It shows they have what it takes to be in the music industry. |
Demeter | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 12:22 pm     Something has been troubling me since last night. When they showed Ruben with his home crowd, he made a comment "After I win I can come back and do this again for you all, will that be alright?" I replayed it several times and he indeed said "after I win" not "if I win". Was this just confidence, or something else? |
Meme9 | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 12:27 pm     I noticed that also Demeter, I don't know but it stood out to me. |
Hobbs | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 12:31 pm     Maybe that mob guy from the Vanilla Coke commercial works for Ruben and everyone is afraid he'll put a contract out on them! Bwahahahahaha! |
Ladytex | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 12:36 pm     <sd> they are supposed to have confidence in themselves. Y'all are determined to find fault with this kid whatever he does or doesn't do ... |
Crazydog | Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 12:53 pm     I think you're all reading too much into it. Of course he is supposed to be confident and optimistic. He was in front of his hometown crowd, who are the people that support him the most. He was just saying what they wanted to hear, that he is going to win. He was playing up to the crowd. They would welcome him back to sing regardless of whether he wins or not. |
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