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Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 03:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I like Billy Joel but I don't think that having a Billy Joel song night was fair to the women. He has so many songs that would be great to sing but that are obviously from a man's viewpoint. Other things, like "For the Longest Time," you could not really sing solo. I just don't think that it is fair to limit the selection for some contestants and not others. I don't think that his music really brought out anything in these particular voices that I needed to hear.

Fruitbat

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 03:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ambloyopia/lazy eye has nothing to do with vision. A weak eye muscle causes the eye to drift to the center causing a slight cross eyed look. I had this as a child and it appeared when I was tired. It is treated by covering the strong eye with a patch for a period of time during the day so the muscles get stronger in the weak eye. I wore a patch for 1 hour a day. I assume in more severe cases a patch is worn for longer periods of time. It has nothing to do with a drooping lid.

Well, as you know Monkey, I hate the Piano man too. It reminds me of Bo Jangles which also sends me running.

I most always agree with Simon and last night was no exception but the analogy he chose for Carmen was cruel.

It does look like Kim L is losing weight but it could be she is dressing for her figure. I have always thought she would be a good candidate for the BBCA show What Not to Wear.

Trenyce is shy and her personality does not come across. That is part of the problem of feeling little connection.

I am loving Ryan these days. He does a fabulous job, very quick with the banter.

Carmen will go tonight and Trenyce and Kim C will be with her. I think Josh should be in the bottom three but he has the armed forces calling in for him regardless of his performance. I expect to see him go further than he should.

Azriel

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 04:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't believe that Carmen is going. She has too many 'she's such a sweet little girl voters' voting for her. I bet that it will be Trenyce or even Kim Locke that goes tonight. Neither of them seem to have a healthy voting fan base.

Fruitbat

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 05:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That could be Az but she may have pushed her fans over the edge last night. I have been rooting for her from the start but it is looking like she may be the weakest link now. Things change dramatically as the numbers decrease.

I would like to see Trenyce go tonight but since her performance was praised by all of the judges I doubt it. They have influence.

Jk300

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 05:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am glad the Billy Joel segment got pushed back. Although his music is easy to listen to
Billy Joel wrote some very complicated music. At this sage in the competition these people should be able to bring it in all genres. In my opinion Kim L was the only one who brought something to the table tonite. These people have been at it for weeks - are they wearing down? If so how will they be able to keep an "AI" schedule? IMHO

Djgirl5235

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 06:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay - I am ticked off!!! I had almost my entire post complete, and hit the wrong button and closed my browser... now I have to start all over again!!!

My thoughts about last night:

Kim C: Simon hit the nail on the head - she reminds me of someone you would see at a theme park - she has consistently proven that she has a very limited range, and although she does have a certain charisma, she's very limited musically and will be gone soon.

Ruben: I didn't actually "See" this performance, I heard it from the kitchen, and this put a whole new spin on things - I was not impressed with this performance and definitely would not purchase his cd if it came out tomorrow. That's my opinion, however, so please, no flaming. I just didn't get it, and was impressed that Simon would actually criticize Ruben in any way - the performance seemed rather blase to me...

Josh: I HATED this performance. I really wish he would have done Shameless, because Piano Man is one of the most recognizable Billy Joel songs, and I thought he butchered it. Granted, he could handle the upper range, however, I didn't quite understand what Smokey was talking about when he said that jumping an octave was a difficult thing to do, maybe that's because I do not have a problem doing it. I would like to see Josh off of here, but I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon.

Carmen: EEEEEEEKKKKK... She was horrid tonight, and I love this girl, but I agree with Fruitbat, that I think she is the weakest one there now. It's sad really, because I know she tries her best every week, but she just didn't do it last night.

Trenyce: I hated this performance as well - very pitchy and I found that she was at a loss as to how to perform this piece since a diva didn't do it, therefore, she didn't have anyone to emulate. She looked lost to me last night.

Kim L: LOVED IT! She definitely brought it last night, and shone! It was an incredible performance.

Clay: LOVED IT! At first, I was a little taken aback by the slow intro, but once he hit the chorus and started moving on the stage I was entranced... It was great. It was nice to see him change things up, and take a chance, and I will give kudos for that!

In my opinion, Simon was basically dead on with his comments, although rather harsh on Carmen, however, I wonder if he's never noticed the facial expressions that Josh makes, or Trenyce for that matter... I can't usually "watch" those two perform, or they throw me off...

Now, I agree with Jk300 to a point - at this point, everyone should be able to bring it each and every night, and tackle each genre as it's presented to them; however, I perform Billy Joel's pieces, and have a rather high voice, but there is a very large repetoire to choose from, there are quite a few songs that the women can choose from, and only Kim L chose a good song to perform for her voice. The rest left a lot to be desired, in my opinion.

Hermione69

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 06:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Good morning, Deej! I was waiting for your post!

Did anyone else wonder if Clay started the song slow just to mess with people? Just to get them thinking, "WHAT?" and then BOOM! Someone up there says they think he has a good sense of humor. I just kind of wondered. I thought he rocked! That song was going through my head all night. A few weeks ago when Ruben did "Sweet Home, Alabama" I thought he did so well with it that it was in my head all night. Last night was Clay's night! Of course it is always Clay night to me, but you know what I mean!

Let me say straight off that I like Kimberly Locke a whole lot so no one gets mad at me. She is by far my favorite girl. But I was a little bored again with her performance. She just doesn't seem to sparkle to me. I could walk away and not feel like I was missing much. With everybody here loving her performance so much, I feel like I am missing something. What am I missing?? Maybe this is one of those times that my hearing loss really hurts my appreciation.

Ladytex

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 06:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm wondering if Simon is using a little reverse psychology on us. Does he think that if he is awfully rough on Carmen that she will get the "pity" votes? That happened last year, he was so rough that people felt sorry for them and voted that way...

Weenerlobo

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 06:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I, too, think that Kim L. is losing weight and dressing more appropriately for her figure. That outfit last nite did wonders. She also did a fine job with New York State of Mind, one of my favorite songs. I don't care for this girl, and I really can't put my finger on exactly why, but she has been doing pretty well and should not be eliminated yet. That would be a shame.

Carmen is, indeed, adorable and should be eliminated, if it came right down to talent.

And then Kim C., even though she really knows how to work a crowd and perform. Her voice is heavy, as if she's got a brick weighing it down and preventing her from really hitting notes acurately. She is very attractive, though.

Reuben is great. I love it when he smiles as he sings because he is adorable. I agree with Simon, that it'd be nice to hear him change it up a little.

Clay did well and I was fooled by the beginning ballad arrangement he did too. It'd be nice if Kim C. would give him some tips on performance, just to spice it up a little, but I doubt that'll happen.

I like how Trenyce made that song her own, but she worked it too hard. I just can't see anything but DIVA when I look at that girl.

Josh gave Piano Man a blue collar appeal that I had never heard in that song before. He did allright, but talk about not wanting to watch as he sings, and that's the guy for me.

I wish that Billy Joel could have been the guest judge too, but I really enjoyed the snippets of interviews they had with him. He seems like he's got a great sense of humor.

Tonite should be interesting!

Dreamweaver

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 06:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
My picks from the show:

Kim L. - did a great job, looked wonderful
Clay - change of pace, it was good
Josh - change of pace also, not bad
Ruben - ok, sounded horsey - needs to try something different
Trenyce - "shrug" Can we tape the fingers to the mike?
Kim C - smoke another pack of cigs honey
Carmen - you're cute, but you need to go.

Think that other then Simon's comments to Carmen (which weren't that far off) he was pretty right on with his views on the performances. Paula and Randy have their fav's and won't bash them. They need to let Simon have his say. Some times the world can be a cruel place, time to stop pampering the contestants.

(all comments are my own opinion and subject to change at anytime, anywhere, and for the right amount of money)

Hobbs

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 06:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hermione, I was already to say, "I respect your opinion but, are you nuts..." about Kim L. Then I started to re-think about her performance. And everyones performance, and then the whole show since the top 12. Nobody has done a stand out song. Like Simon says, he's bored. I'm bored. They all just stand there and sing. Nothing seems to come from the gut. If one of them does a "Respect" or "Natural Woman" ala Kelly Clarkson they will win. I think the show needs to do a live band show like they did with the big band show last year. That might help bring them out of there shells.

Djgirl summed up my feelings exactly on last night. No reason for me to repeat it. Just read her last post. She is a brilliant person!

Texannie

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 06:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I could have sworn that when Ryan introduced Rueben he said that he was singing "New York State of Mind"...anyone else hear that? Am I just crazy?? (ok, that is just a rhetorical questions!! )

Hermione69

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 06:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Deej is TOTALLY brilliant. Welcome to her fan club, Hobbs! And I am nuts, I believe, but for different reason!

Djgirl5235

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 07:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Herm - you're not missing anything - Like my comments regarding Ruben, I think it's just your own opinion of her performances. I didn't actually get to SEE her performance, but I heard it, and it was sparkling that way. I have a feeling that we would all have different views if you didn't actually watch, and just listened... But then again, maybe not. I thought Ruben was off last night, and that could be because I was concentrating on just his voice...

Ladytex - I think you may be on to something - I guess we'll find out tonight!

Conejo

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 07:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Kim C.- I agree with Simon - six flags theme park.
I think he also said that once before and I agreed with him then. I think that she is a very good performer and sings OK but not an AI. She could probably have a good career at a theme park or on a cruise ship.

Ruben was OK. I' sooooo glad he finally got rid of those 205 shirts.

Kim L. - I really started to like this girl a couple of weeks ago and I think that she keeps getting better and better. She seems to be a lot more confident than in the beginning.

Josh - I have a problem watching him sing, so I don't think that he could be an AI. I also thought that he was out of tune. IMO

Carmen - Her voice kinda reminded me of sort of a Crystal Gayle type sound. She does seem to be handling the critisim very well (at least in front of the camera).

Trenyce - OMG get those flappin fingers OFF the microphone! I thought that she over sang that song.

Clay - He was just OK. I was confused when he first started singing - I thought he was going to sing it like a ballad.

Overall, I agree with Simons comments (just wish that he would go a little easier on Carmen).

Pantageas

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 07:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with most of Simon's comments from last night(I still think Clay has a "showtune" tendacy). But I was MOST impressed with Simon's comments on Carmen, and not just because he was "mean". While she sang, I had just told my wife that she sounds like a young girl being forced to sing in front of an audience by her parents - shaky & unsure. My wife said "well, she is a young girl". Then when Simon started commenting, I sat up straight, pointed at the tv, and went "See?! See?!". :)

That being said, I bet Carmen will still stay around this week. Cause she is "the Debbil"!

Djgirl5235

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 07:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I posted before I read the GLOWING praise above - thank you Hobbs, and Hermione!!! You're the best!!!

Pantageas

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 07:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
P.S. Hobbs - you were right on with the "Kelly Clarkson" analogy. Noone has yet to make me go "Wow!" and pay attention...

Fruitbat

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 07:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Babybat DJ is just like her mom only her mom cannot carry a tune to save her life. Brilliant though.

Djgirl5235

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 07:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, Pantageas, Hobbs was dead on with his analogy!!

Brenda1966

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 07:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You guys stole all my comments. :)

Sorry Fruit, but I was glad that someone sang Piano Man and I thought Josh did a fine job (and yes he turned it country).

I don't think Carmen will go yet even though she's the least talented right now. Since Simon was so hard on her and since her poor face was all broken out, I think she'll get a lot of pity votes.

I'm also still waiting for someone to "Wow" me like Kelly did last year when she sang Natural Woman.

I don't mind that Clay looks goofy when he sings. I love that he's a dork. I'd buy his CD simply for his voice. I'm old so I never see music videos anyway (does MTV even play them anymore?!).

Hermione69

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 07:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This is probably going to sound really awful, but I couldn't get the image out of my head of Billy Joel singing "New York State of Mind" for the fundraiser after the 9/11 tragedy. That performance of his, with all the emotion surrounding the event, gave me chills and made me cry. I doubt if anyone could have measured up to that in my mind because from now on I will forever associate that song with that one performance by Billy Joel.

Does that make any kind of sense at all?

I really do like Kim L. a lot and I voted for her a few times and I hope she is safe this week. She deserves top three, at least.

As far as this year versus last year, Clay has captured my heart in the same way that many of you talk about Kelly. I guess it really is all an individual thing. This year's group blows last year's out of the water, IMHO. The group as a whole, by the way. Still love Tamyra, Kelly and Justin from last year! Wouldn't it be interesting if they were in this year's batch?

Okay, I have to go run errands. I have been procrastinating...

Weenerlobo

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 08:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Pantageas - ROFLMAO about "the Debbil!"

Hobbs

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 08:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have a bunch of Kelly's performances from last years shows on my computer. I just went and listened to them. (I haven't in a long time). In my opinion, nobody on this years show holds a candle to her. I had forgotten how she could belt out a tune. I think it would do this years contestants a world of good to listen/watch what made Kelly last years AI and learn from it. Stop holding back guys. It's time to shine! You're in the final 6 of American Idol!

I think this is what Simon is trying to say.

Wcv63

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 09:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with Djgirl and Fruitbat's assessments of last night's performances. I can't add a thing that wouldn't be just a rehash of the same comments.

Oh and Hobbs...WORD!!!!