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Pagal

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 04:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL!

Beachcomber88

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 04:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Fruit and Crazy - see, we've been right all along!

Can you imagine "Lose Yourself" in a country twang? 8 Mile?! I thought this guy was as country as country gets.

Crazy, you summed up the Marine's situation perfectly. The only reason why he's being treated this way is because our country is at war. He's the Marine poster boy, and Fox has hit the jackpot and is going to run with it. How noble. How brave. How difficult it must be, conflicted over singing "I Will Survive" in a country twang versus carrying out the government duties you enlisted for. We must all sit back and marvel at the inner turmoil this great man must feel. We must be constantly reminded at how difficult a "decision" it is for him to continue in the competition. Isn't it so great and patriotic that American Idol will make a military exception and allow him to come back next year? Let's all join Randy and Paula and give the producers a well-deserved standing O.

I am sick of hearing of Josh. I am growing increasingly infuriated at his situation. This is in no means meant to be unpatriotic. I am grateful and thankful that there are brave soldiers defending our country right now. Josh could be one of them. But that doesn't make him the uber AI competitor that warrants the golden gloves. Call him up, send him out, and let him come back for the first cut. That should be the end of it.

Squaredsc

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 04:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
can't nap must post till such time as i can't, aarrgggghh.

Fruitbat

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 04:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hang in there.....20 more minutes.

Fruitbat

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 04:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Beach.......absolutely. I suspected from the beginning that the Marines were loving the PR.

Pagal

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 05:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, why are all of Square's posts empty?

Fruitbat

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 05:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Highlight them with your mouse and you will see them.

Fruitbat

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 05:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She is being sneaky.

Pagal

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 05:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh! LOL!! That's Ms. Fruit.

Rissa

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 05:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought I had posted but it seems to have gone poof. LOL Azriel !!! Thank you so much, I haven't been able to get anyone (around here I mean) to agree with me about Carmen. What I heard was so off-key (or perhaps pitchy is a better word) that it was physically painfull to listen to her. I can see the 'quality' Simon says her voice has but it needs a heck of a lot more training (or I'll need more Advil). Could not believe the great things the judges had to say. Simon mentioned before that he OFTEN goes home and watches the show and completely disagrees with his own previous opinions. Perhaps Carmen just sounds great in a crowded theatre with thousands of screaming fans in your ear. LOLOL

I didn't realize Josh was being such a sh$%-disturber here. LOL I like him. Don't think he should win but better then some and a great entertainer (if not singer). But I have to agree with... too bad, so sad if he gets called to action. This is, after all, a TV show. He is either on it or he isn't. He can always come back from Iraq and work on his singing career again if he wants, being on AI is a privelege not a right. It's a choice he knew might come up when he auditioned in the first place, right?

Don't you think it's funny (ironic funny) that we are feeling guilty that he might lose this chance because he is a big, wonderfull marine... but that the chance he wants is one which he would have to throw away the marines for anyway?

Spygirl

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 05:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I realize the news is bad for both Trenyce and Josh, but in both situations, Fox made the decisions that are reflecting poorly on the participants.

I realize Josh could have said "no, don't pull any strings to keep me in the competition"...but who here would be that self-sacrificing that you would throw away a chance at fame and fortune? Military people are still people - they aren't so committed to their service that nothing distracts them from that service. As has been pointing out extensively recently, many military people go in because of the benefits and college money, not because they want to go overseas and fight a battle in Iraq.

In addition, even though Trenyce's situation may be the same or worse than what Frenchie did, she did tell Fox the same as Frenchie. It was Fox's decision to ignore one and punish the other. That is NOT Trencye's fault.

So...I think it would be a big shame to see anger and disdain directed at the two contestants for what Fox has done.

Pagal

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 05:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oops! Meant to say "Thanks Ms. Bat"! in previous message!

Rissa

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 05:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh for cripes sake Spygirl. That'll teach me to only catch up on the last dozen or so postings. I have obviously missed something. RFLOL

Spygirl

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 05:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Rissa - I am copying my post into the other thread, too, where it is being discussed. It might have been better there anyway. (Gossip thread).

Rissa

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 05:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okie Dokie... found the fuss about Josh (being planted in next years top ten if he is deployed). What I posted about him still holds. Whatever happens, I certainly wish him the best.

But, what's up with Trenyce??? Took a quick scan but couldn't find the original discussion.

AHHH, before my editting limit runs out. Thanks Spygirl.

Pagal

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 05:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Rissa:
Go to "Misc. Gossip" for the details.

Beachcomber88

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 06:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Remember at the WAY beginning...

Ryan (wearing too tight, very ugly shirt):
Josh, what would happen if you were asked to deploy during the course of this competion?

Marine (with stoic and brave look):
"My first mission is to my country. I am a Marine." (oohs and aahs from the adoring crowd)

WHAT HAPPENED to that? Little did we know at the time that the strings had already been pulled. Well, he certainly played it off well. I can sum it all up in one word... conspiracy. (Go Crazydog Go!) Or how about another... JOSHGATE! His mom is probably wishing that e-mail never surfaced. It will become as talked about as the Nixon tapes for years to come in American Idol history. Josh, remember to flash the double V sign as you exit so noblely from the show!

Crazydog

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 06:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Beach, I remember that as well! "I'm a marine." I wonder if he knew that AI was going to make some calls to keep him on the show. How embarrassing for the show, for him, for his mother, and the U.S. Marines. As far as how the e-mail surfaced, it was probably one of those cases of an overexultant mother passing on the news to other concerned family members, and one of them lacked discretion and passed it on to someone in the media.

Wcv63

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 08:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, now Josh is not one of my favorites in this competition but I think it's wrong to have so much criticism heaped on him for decisions made by others. He got the appropriate permissions before he auditioned and knows that he could be called away at any time. What mother wouldn't be proud, fearful, happy he's safe for the time being and overjoyed that her child is following a dream?

Additionally, I think it's sweet and admirable that he at least acknowledges that his decision to compete and be away from his family impacts them. Granted there is not the fear that would be present if he were deployed to Kuwait but the brunt of family responsibility has fallen to his wife. He acknowledges this, recognizes her contributions and gives her the respect she is due.

As for the Trenyce situation...same thing. I won't judge her by her past but only by what she has put out in this competition. She divulged her past to the show and left the decision in their hands.

Ladytex

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 09:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You know what ... I am hearing such hate directed towards this 21 year old kid. The article states that the Marine Corp may have pulled some strings, but it says nothing about Joshua pulling strings. For pete's sake, what kind of influence do y'all think a young enlisted Marine is gonna pull??? Hearing that the Marine Corp is using him as a public relation tool in no way takes away from my wishing this kid all the best. The whole tone of that article was totally unprofessional, very negative. I'd be more inclined to believe it if the author had somehow managed to keep her personal feelings for Josh out of it. Nasty ... that is all some people are.

Seamonkey

Thursday, March 27, 2003 - 10:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ladytex, I'll cosign that..

Prisonerno6

Friday, March 28, 2003 - 02:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Kudos to both WCV and LadyTex. Besides, considering the source of the article about Josh and the Marines, I wouldn't expect anything to reflect well on the military in it.

Fruitbat

Friday, March 28, 2003 - 04:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think Josh remaining in the US and AI has anything at all to do with him or his desires. The Marines make the decisions for their Marines. This information, if it is true, came from much higher up in the ranks.

Texannie

Friday, March 28, 2003 - 06:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I find it ironic that the same people who are saying we shouldn't be in this war are the same ones critisizing Josh for not being IN the war!!

LadyTex, I am with you.

Fruitbat

Friday, March 28, 2003 - 06:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't see anyone critisizing Josh for anything. He is a pawn in a Marine decision. The criticism is about a questionable move on the part of our Government.

And you do not know how I stand on this war, btw.