Archive through December 06, 2002
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Archive through December 06, 2002
Jedisan | Monday, November 18, 2002 - 07:55 pm     missed the show tonite - any qick re-caps? I would be grateful. |
Kady | Monday, November 18, 2002 - 08:10 pm     You didn't miss it...new episodes come on Tuesday nights. |
Misslibra | Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 07:48 pm     I can't believe how uneducated Steve and Trichelle is behaving. I hope she is pregnant and I hope it's with triplets, so she can follow Steve around saying Steve the babies need diapers...  Steve the babies need to go to the Doctor...  Steve the babies need milk...  Steve the babies need...  And Alton handle the situation with the guy grabbing him very adult like. Most Men in his shoes would have knock the guy out for doing what he did. When Steve was going to break it off with Trichelle I thought smart guy. Now all I can say is he is a not so smart guy. Can't wait to see next weeks show. I want to know who slammed the door in Arissa face while having sex in the confessional. Could it be Trichelle and Steve??? And I mean they slammed the door hard several times. I bet Arissa is going to want to kick some butt. |
Seamonkey | Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 11:37 pm     These people are like a train wreck.. no contraception?? no protection?? Idiots.. I know this is harsh but Trishelle is illustrative of the need to keep abortion legal. I just don't see her as capable of producing a baby that would have a good chance.. if she's already pregnant and bulimic she has already likely done great harm to the fetus (or embryo) and she seems incapable of taking care of herself, let alone handling the 9 months required to give birth. Not to mention all the heavy drinking and smoking.. I'm not sure Trishelle is a smoker? but she's around an awful lot of smoke in this environment. Very sad. I have to assume it was a false alarm or ?? since if she had given birth or was hugely pregnant, the smoking gun or the tabloids would have already run with it. Sure makes me wonder if she saw Steven as a way out. Yes.. I also wonder who was slamming the door.. seems like they must have brought in someone from the outside, since the girls in the house seem to only call outsiders "skanks". Alton seems to be learning a little bit about people unlike him and I loved the way Brynn talked to him.. instead of saying how dare you attack gay men (like my dad) and confusing a child molester with homosexuality.. she gave him a meaningful example.. that she was raped by someone (probably black, but she just says not of her race) and yet she has worked not to paint the whole group as rapists.. you could see Alton absorbing this.. |
Grooch | Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 06:26 am     Dang. I missed the show. |
Webkitty | Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 06:33 am     I missed it too, drat. I'll have to scan listings now for a repeat. |
Nicoleme | Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 08:10 am     in the post interviews trishells face is a bit puffy... could that be baby weight?? |
Max | Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 10:05 am     Alton has impressed me several times this season and this week's show was the most impressive. He seems like such a genuinely nice person who is trying to learn and grow. Brynn impressed me this episode with her discussion with Alton. She handled that VERY well in a VERY grown-up manner. Given the way we've seen her behave before, I was surprised and happy to see her do this. Steven is....well, a buffoon is the best way I can describe him. He seems to delight in being the horny, silly guy. Every once in a while, he acts like an adult, but it's just a fleeting glimpse before he reverts back to being the dumb sex-obsessed guy again. No condoms? What an idiot. I bet his soon-to-be-ex-wife is watching this and counting her blessings for getting out of that relationship. Trishelle... she makes me sad. She's gorgeous but doesn't feel it. She seems to get all her self-esteem from how men view/desire her. She doesn't really want Steven, but she doesn't want HIM not to want HER. ACK! And again, the no birth control/no condom thing is just IDIOTIC. Not using a condom is stupid enough, but no birth control is just the most insane thing ever. Wonder how she's gonna tell daddy about THAT! I taped this on my PVR and, unfortunately, MTV isn't starting and ending shows right on the hour, so the last minute or two got cut off and I didn't see the slamming door thing. The irresponsibility level all around this season, from the cast to their 'boss' to the producers for throwing these people into the 'sin city' environment and doing all they can to play up that angle, is extreme. At least we finally saw ONE of them get off the strip and out to Red Rock Canyon (Irulon and Gabe's hiking trip last week). I was beginning to think that the producers just wanted to portray Vegas as 'sin city' with no other qualities at all. No wait! That IS what they are doing, isn't it? They were probably disappointed to have to show the Red Rock scenes to us at all.  |
Webkitty | Wednesday, November 27, 2002 - 07:31 am     I still haven't caught a repeat of last weeks show, but I saw the new episode last night. This group is really immauture. They complain constantly about the job that was handed to them on a silver platter. Jeesh. It seems as if Arrisa is frustrated at all the "action" the rest are getting. She's holding herself above it as a coverup but that whole scene with Frank and that girl in the confessional, and Arrisa banging on the door seemed a metaphor for her frustration. Each one thinks they are more mature than the rest, but they are not. The whole show borders on distastful, but I can't stop watching! |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, November 27, 2002 - 11:06 am     Mature they are NOT. They each (well some of them) have their mature moments. I loved how they all trashed Brynn this week for slacking, yet last week it was clear that Brynn was working with them, getting stuff ready and Trishelle was nowhere to be seen.. not to mention Trishelle totally freaking and refusing to particpate in the "ski dance" and also flaking on the devil/angel gig.. but ol Trishelle was so happy to tromp on Brynn Irulan has a pretty warped view of life.. but I guess she admits she is used to getting what she wants.. I'm glad Arissa at least admits that she was uwing her anger on everyone with no filter. Frank talks about wanting an angel, but seems like they didn't act that way.. but Arissa really was a bit out of line.. tho I think she has a point about the shared areas of the house. |
Laura11103 | Sunday, December 01, 2002 - 01:03 am     I also think Arissa acted out of hand by scraming obscenities into the confessional before knowing for sure who was in there. I was glad to see Arissa be able to take criticism, and realize that she was wrong and acted very hastily. Frank is a nice guy and I really felt for the girl that was with him..... no wonder she was terrified.... to have some chick screaming about what a horrible skank you are while you're with this guy you just met must be horrific. Thanks goodness Arissa apologized and realized that she's a tad bit hotheaded... It was a good episode... |
Max | Sunday, December 01, 2002 - 08:15 pm     Seems like Arissa might actually be learning from this experience. Alton is, too. I like that. Wonder if they are going to do a pregnancy test soon for Trishelle? |
Laura11103 | Monday, December 02, 2002 - 09:05 am     Yes it is good to see them mature throughout the season, it's supposedly what this show is all about. I'd say the season where we saw real personal growth was the NY season (not season 1), the one w/ oh god I can't remember anyone's names! Let me think, Lori was one of them, 2 black girls and a blonde chick, then 3 guys, that group really grew together and bonded. I have a feeling Trishelle is not pregnant, the girl is bullimic, she's lucky if she ever gets her period. |
Seamonkey | Monday, December 02, 2002 - 11:16 am     That's a point re: Trishelle and maybe why she claims she is afraid to go to a doctor, the bulimia. But unfortunately she's playing dangerous games, not just for herself, but for any partner and for a baby too, because sometimes pregnancy occurs even in the least likely circumstances. It seems like this season they don't get much (obvious) advice but you'd think behind the scenes that bunim/murray would at least be offering help. And when Arissa (or was it Irulan) was threatening Brynn that she could be sent home over slacking on the job.. if that was the case there would have been mass exodus from most seasons where they had a job. |
Webkitty | Tuesday, December 03, 2002 - 09:05 pm     I thought I had stumbled into the Osbournes for a minute there when Arissa and Steven were having words in the bedroom, it was one long bleeeeep! It looks like the gang had a breakthrough with that focus session they had, especially Arissa. Poor Alton, I hope he finds a nice girl, he seems like he has a lot to give to the right one. |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 04:43 am     I am impressed with Arissas' insights, sort of. Something does not ring true. She is very quick, almost too quick, to see where she steps over the line but continues with the same behavior again and again. She does not seem to have a plan to stop and correct herself or even ask the others to call her on it when she is escalating. It is looking to me as if this is part of her pattern to take the heat off herself which allows her to continue to indulge. It will all be fine if I just apologize. It is a good first step but if she does not take another it just may be part of the way she operates and has for a long time. I think she arrived with these "insights". Both she and Irulan have an edge of superiority. Irulans talk with Bryn was way too harsh. These kids all need a workshop in communication 101. They all point the finger and look to blame. I think Trishelle is looking for attention with the pregnancy scare. I am confident she knows she is not. Why not just get a drugstore kit? No need to see a doctor. I wonder if we will hear about Trishells relationship with her father and his reaction to all of her behavior when this show ends. It can't be good. |
Grooch | Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 07:02 am     Somebody shoot "Awesome" Ann. |
Pamy | Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 08:28 am     LOL Grooch! I was thinking the same thing, NO one is that fricking positive !! |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 10:45 am     I also wonder about Arissa's insights. After all, she got most of the attention in the workshop, she got to "live". Steven also keeps talking about how HE has worked on all these issues (like when he graciously decided that Brynn could stay and now with his offering to help Arissa) but what about HIS issues.. I noticed last night he called his wife "ex" but they are still married. And his behavior with Trishelle isn't geared toward helping her. Arissa may have been working all her life but I don't remember anyone appointing her to be responsible for the others actions.. leave that to the (totally dysfunctional) boss. Steven was right on point when he pointed out that the way Arissa scolds others isn't helping her to communicate and of course she burst into shouting at him!! I certainly hope these people watch the show over and over. I hope Alton finds the right person, but I hope it isn't a maneater like Irulan who is willing to climb all over him because she's missing regular sex.. Trishelle.. well of course she should get a pregnancy kit, but she actually said she didn't want to find out, didn't want to tell Steven she was worried. Seems to me maybe she wants it to be "too late".. as Steven said, Trishelle wants to find a guy in Vegas but it isn't going to be him. Of course the previews again show him saying maybe he's ready for a kid (arrgh). Awesome Ann.. I'd have hated to work with her, but the stuff she did with them this time at least seemed to touch them, whereas her canned standard work with new employees totally sucked. But, I'm okay with shooting her |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 11:03 am     I don't buy that Arissa has worked all her life either. At 8 years old? 10? nope. This is the story she tells herself. She wears her tough life as a badge of entitlement. |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 12:09 pm     I think she said since she was 15. I agree Bat!! |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 12:20 pm     How much longer does this show run? |
Bastable | Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 08:15 pm     Too long, Fruitbat, too long. |
Fruitbat | Friday, December 06, 2002 - 06:21 am     |
Grooch | Friday, December 06, 2002 - 01:15 pm     'Real World' star says depression is not shameful By Susan Aschoff St. Petersburg Times The willowy blonde who spent four months with six other twentysomethings in a Chicago apartment for MTV's soap-operatic "The Real World" says that having her life watched by 7 million viewers may not have been the smartest move for someone dealing with depression. Cara Kahn spoke about depression at a seminar in Florida. Fraser Hale / St. Petersburg Times Yet many of the college students gathered in a University of South Florida lecture hall came first to see Cara Kahn, then learn about mental health. "I've been on stages before, usually acting or singing. I didn't imagine being onstage talking about something so serious," Kahn, 23, said. Kahn is on a 10-city college tour called "Depression in College: Real World, Real Life, Real Issues." Three mental health experts joined Kahn onstage to tell students to get help if sadness stops their engagement in college's classes and social life. Diagnosed with clinical depression when she was a sophomore in high school and after her mother saw her becoming increasingly reclusive, Kahn said, "it's not as though anything horrible happened to me. "I remember feeling something bad was going to happen. I felt dark and low inside." Her condition is treated with talk therapy and medication, which was revealed to viewers in the edited versions of conversations taped during the 24-hour-a day, four-month surveillance of "Real World" housemates. "I watched my edited self, and I felt totally exposed," she said. Then the fan letters began to arrive, she said. She did not answer the ones that asked whether her hair is permed or whether she ever hooked up with Kyle. She replied to those who wrote to her about their depression. Their honesty "helped me come to terms that there is no shame in having depression," Kahn said. "With treatment, you can lead an enjoyable life." Kahn, a Boston-area native, is a 2002 graduate of Washington University in St. Louis and has a degree in theater. Cara Kahn, right, star of MTV's "The Real World," signs autographs. Kahn said letters from fans after the show helped her deal with the illness she's had since high school and realize it's nothing to be ashamed of. About 10 percent of America's college students have been diagnosed with depression, the National Mental Health Association says. Antidepressants are the No. 1 prescribed medications on college campuses, followed closely by anti-anxiety drugs. The tour is the latest educational effort by GOAL! Go On And Live, a program sponsored by Wyeth Pharmaceuticals and launched in April with actress Delta Burke, who says she has struggled with depression for almost 30 years. Kahn is paid by Wyeth, which makes the drug Effexor, prescribed for depression and anxiety disorders. Critics say the campus stops are a corporate promotion. Harvard University declined to host a visit because of Wyeth's commercial interest in promoting medication for mental health. There was no Wyeth signage at the event on the university's campus in Tampa, and Kahn did not specify which drugs she takes. Co-sponsors include the nonprofit National Mental Health Association and Screening for Mental Health Inc. Clinical depression is more than a freshman's homesickness or the stress of cramming for finals. The illness disrupts sleeping, eating, studying and work. Symptoms may include a persistent sadness or anxiousness, feelings of hopelessness or guilt, irritability, low energy, lack of focus and inability to make decisions, difficulty connecting with family and friends and, in severe cases, thoughts of suicide and death. "It is a medical illness, an imbalance of chemicals in the brain," said speaker Mark Agresti, a psychiatrist in West Palm Beach whose patients are teenagers and young adults. |
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