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TV ClubHouse: Archive: American Idol (FOX): Spoilers for this week's songs (supposedly): Archive through April 08, 2003

Clp

Monday, April 07, 2003 - 12:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I found this on another site and thought y'all might like to see it. I don't know if it is accurate AT ALL - but the poster on the other board wasn't flamed and they seemed to be someone who has given inside info before.

Ruben- Superstition
Clay - I'm not Supposed to Love You Anymore
Kim C - Heartbreaker
Kim L - I Surrender
Carmen- Wide Open Spaces
Josh - Thunder Rolls
Trenyce - Greatest Love of All
Rickey - Emotions

AGAIN - I have no confirmation that this is accurate I just found it somewhere else and didn't want TVCH to be left out! :)

Mak1

Monday, April 07, 2003 - 02:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks, Clp, you know how we hate to be left out!

Sasha

Monday, April 07, 2003 - 06:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Darn, I was hoping Kim Locke would sing "Total Eclipse of the Heart" by Bonnie Tyler. I would love Kim C to sing a Guns and Roses song (any of them made #1???).

Crazydog

Monday, April 07, 2003 - 06:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, if these are indeed true...

"Emotions" as in Mariah Carey's "Emotions"? Hide the champagne glasses, Ricky's going to break them. I still fail to see why voters think a man singing in the "upper registry" is anything but painful to listen to. If Rickey insists on singing this song, he WILL be voted out.

ANOTHER Whitney song for Trenyce? She did "Run to You" and "I'm Every Woman" (although nee Chaka Khan).

Crazydog

Monday, April 07, 2003 - 07:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
But the other thing is, I thought this week was supposed to be the Billy Joel week. At least from the discussion in last week's threads....

Beachcomber88

Monday, April 07, 2003 - 08:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Crazydog, you beat me to the punch! Good to see you back on the boards! My thoughts exactly about Mr. Upper Register and Whitney wannabe.

I think they're just running with the judges' comments. Pawla keeps telling Ricky how great his upper register is. Trenyce was told that she did well on a Whitney song which was no easy task.

Yeah, what happened to Billy?

Sasha

Monday, April 07, 2003 - 09:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
According to idolonfox.com, they are singing Billboard #1 hits. Maybe Billy is still a celebrity judge (like Gladys, Olivia, etc.).

Beachcomber88

Monday, April 07, 2003 - 10:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hmmm...I hope this is not the week that he is scheduled to be on. Billy Joel is such a prolific songwriter with so many huge well-known hits. I'd like to see a show devoted just to his songs, especially since I'm a big fan. I'm not sure that they could have filled an entire hour with the songs of Gladys, Olivia, and that Star Trek Klingon guy alone (at least not ones that we would all recognize).

Walker

Monday, April 07, 2003 - 01:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
they most certainly could have beach..by the way the "star trek klingon guy" is verdine white.

Crazydog

Monday, April 07, 2003 - 03:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Beach at "Klingon guy" - the description is very apt. (Walker, btw Beach knows who Verdeen White is, judging from his comments in last week's thread.)

I'd like to see a Billy Joel week too - after all we had to endure the saccharine Burt Bacharach last year so why not pick someone this year that is just as prolific but more widely recognized and loved?

Beachcomber88

Monday, April 07, 2003 - 03:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the teenage and 20ish audience would have trouble naming more than a handful of songs by any of the previous guest judges. On the other hand, EVERYBODY knows the Piano Man - that he grew up a poor New Yawk kid, that he made it big, that he was once married to Uptown Girl Christie Brinkley, and sadly, that he was recently in rehab. His music transcends decades and generations. The same cannot be said for Gladys, Olivia, or even someone as "recognizable" as Klingon Guy.

Clp

Monday, April 07, 2003 - 09:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
To add something else "spoilerish" the same board had had post that Lionel Ritchie will be the judge. Again, no idea if it is accurate, just passing along more rumour and innuendo!

Ladytex

Monday, April 07, 2003 - 10:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Excuse me, but just because YOU cannot name more than a handful of tunes by MR. Verdine White (his name is not Klingon Guy, BTW), doesn't mean that no one can. Earth Wind and Fire were very prolific and they recently were on a sold out tour. Since that many people bought tickets to see them, I'm sure they heard of them and their music. Can we please call the man by his name and not by disrespectful nick names. He's earned it.

Beachcomber88

Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 10:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Uhh...ok, Ladytex. Seeing as how the host of this show is the 27 year old Seacrest and that all the contestants are under 24, I would guess that one of the main target audiences for Fox would be the teenage/20ish age group. While Verdeen White may be a legend with EWF in the 70s, he certainly is not as recognizable to today's youth as Billy Joel.

I believe I was not the only one asking "Who Dat?" when Verdeen and his puffy shirt came out on stage last week.

Crazydog

Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 10:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am 30 years old and while I am familiar with Earth Wind and Fire, it would have been impossible for me to list any of its members by name, let alone physically identify them. I wouldn't be surprised if most if not all of the contestants thought the same last week.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if many of the contestants didn't know who Gladys Knight was. If you put Gladys Knight, Aretha Franklin, Diana Ross, and Dionne Warwick in a room, would the teenagers and 20 year olds be able to tell them apart?

I agree with you Beach. The target audience for this show is teenagers and people in their 20s and the guest judges are probably unrecognizable to many of these people. Even Paula. Some of these contestants were toddlers in Paula's "Straight Up" and "Cold Hearted Snake" heyday.

Maris

Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 11:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
My favorite Earth WInd and Fire song was Reasons. They were great in concert.

Ladytex

Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 11:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
So you said "who dat" when you saw him, it is still disrespectful to keep calling him by that derogatory nickname after being told more than once what his name is. And depending on where you live you may know EWF and not Billy Joel

Webkitty

Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 12:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm old enough to remember EWF tunes from the 70's but I had no idea who Verdeen White was.

And he reminded me of a Klingon too. (a very very skinny one)
Also, Klingon warriors are proud and brave, so its not derogatory.

Serate

Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 12:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
*agrees with Webkitty*

Hotlantan

Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 01:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That must be Webkitty's not-so-subtle way of telling Ladytex and others here who do still have respect for Mr White and his musical legacy to EWF off and die.
Real classy. And not at all disrespectful or derogatory.

Webkitty

Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 01:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Not at all, I say what I mean.
I danced many a night away to EWF, and enjoyed their music, but I have never heard of Verdeen White.
And, the first thing that I thought of when I saw him was, cool! He looks like a klingon. (I guess you have to be a sci-fi geek like me to appriciate that) That's why I said looking a like klingon is not derogotory.
My impression of his looks has nothing to do with my appriciation of his music.

Serate

Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 01:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I took Webkittys post for exactly what it said.

"I'm old enough to remember EWF tunes from the 70's but I had no idea who Verdeen White was." I remember Earth, Wind, and Fire from growing up, BUT I had no idea WHO Verdeen White was or that he was a member of that group. I remember many songs from the 70's, but as far as learning WHO was in the bands I couldn't tell you unless it was Donny Osmond/Osmond Brothers and Michael Jackson/Jakson 5.

"And he reminded me of a Klingon too. (a very very skinny one)Also, Klingon warriors are proud and brave, so its not derogatory." When I saw Verdeen walk to the judges" table my first thought was that he maybe he was in a Star Trek movie. Klingons are strong, brave, and honorable characters. No disrespect in that. Well at least in my opinion.

Hermione69

Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 01:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Webkitty is a sweetheart. I know she meant no disrespect. Klingons are cool in our world.

I like Verdeen White best of all the guest judges so far.

I wonder if these spoilers will be true. I was hoping Clay would sing something up-tempo. "I'm not Supposed to Love You Anymore" doesn't sound up-tempo, but I can't remember this song to save my life. Who sang it??

Is "Superstition" that song by Stevie Wonder that RJ did last year?

I can be so very clueless.

Pagal

Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 01:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm Not Supposed to Love You Anymore
Bryan White
_____

We agreed that it was over
Now the lines have all been drawn
The vows we made began to fade
But now they're gone
Put your pictures in a shoebox
And my gold ring in a drawer
I'm not supposed to love you anymore

Now Sherri says she's jealous
Of this freedom that I've found
If she were me she would be
Out on the town
And she says she can't imagine
What on earth I'm waiting for
I'm not supposed to love you anymore

Oh I shouldn't care or wonder where and how you are
But I can't hide this hurt inside my broken heart
I'm fighting back emotions that I've never fought before
'Cause I'm not supposed to love you anymore

Now I'm writing you this letter
And it's killing me tonight
That I agreed when you believed
It wasn't right
And I couldn't sleep up on the bed
So I'm down here on the floor
Where I'm not supposed to love you anymore

Oh I shouldn't care or wonder where and how you are
And I can't hide this hurt inside my broken heart
I'm fighting back emotions that I've never fought before
'Cause I'm not supposed to love you anymore

I'm fighting back emotions that I've never fought before
'Cause I'm not supposed to love you anymore

Crazydog

Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 01:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I looked it up on Amazon. I think the song listed for Clay is by Bryan White, and he's a country singer. So expect another slow and boring performance from Clay.

"I Surrender" - the only one I know is the Celine Dion one that Kelly sang last year.

I'm not sure which "Heartbreaker" Kimberly Locke would sing - there's so many - Mariah Carey, Dionne Warwick, Dolly Parton, the one that goes "She's a - Heart-breaker"...

These songs seem really obscure, especially the choice for Clay. So either it is the actual list or someone is just making some odd predictions. I'm not particularly excited about any of the songs.