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Ryn

Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 07:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sunday Night Donut - but this is the ONLY repeat of the show, all the other episodes will run on Thursdays only (and this one was an hour, the others are all 30 minutes I think)

Curlyq

Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 07:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That girl must've felt like an idiot lying there like a piece of furniture while people talked over and around her. They seem pretty desperate to create a Hugh Heffner atmosphere in that house. I'm so proud of Hammer for sticking to his convictions, even though the women tried to make him feel like he was being judgmental of them. They didn't seem to get that it wasn't about them at all.

I don't get Jerri. I never did. She likes to complain about women not getting the same respect as men, but she herself has participated in the objectification of women by posing for Playboy. Then she talks about hypocrisy. I also noticed that she made the same comment about Feldman that she made about Keith Famie, calling him condescending right off the bat. She seems to think all men are out to get her.

This was definitely a guilty pleasure. Kind of like Big Brother with a better budget and no strategizing. It looked like they bonded pretty well the first day, and I liked the previews of them visiting each other's "worlds".

Eliz87

Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 08:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I like it, probably majorly because I was a huge Motley Crue fan back in the day. :-) I KNOW I'd be into it with Corey Feldman within the first hour. I think Jerri is actually showing some restraint!! What the heck does he mean "our world????" I mean, Jerri was invited to be on that show just as they all were. Hmmph!! ;-) Even the Playboy girl said, "We're all actors and musicians." Okay, her acting experience has involved Baywatch. LOL We can only hope that Jerri will tell them to get over their bad selves!

P.S. Vince Neil is my favorite, just as I suspected he would be. :-)

Muse

Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 08:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought it was kind of interesting how Jerri described the public as seeing her as a "maneater". That was never my perception of her. In fact, I actually felt bad for how easily she was being manipulated by Colby, who she was soooo infatuated with. Of course, that feeling went away after about half a second, too, and then I decided it was sort of funny.

I thought the show was okay. Some funny moments, but nothing I'll feel a need to tune into every week.

Azlen

Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 08:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I liked the show tonight but they were only in there for ten days, that is not near enough time to really get on someone nerves.
I remember reading news reports about the wedding so it looks like regardless of what they showed in the preveiws, that it is happening.
The thing about Brande, the centerfold, that I will never be able to get over is the fact that she dated/slept with Hef. I still just don't understand these women who do that, but I guess if they want to be the Playmate of the Year they have to make sacrifices.

Azlen

Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 08:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Couple of other thoughts...
With all the talk about Jerri not being enough of a celebrity, I would bet that this show's audience would know who Jerri is more than some of the other people in the house.
Also, why did Webster bring his "People's Choice" awards with him? That just seems kinda sad.

Willsmom

Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 09:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I loved this show. The mixture of people seemed so bizarre that I had to watch. Corey is getting on my last nerve. I'm not thinking from seeing the previews that this will be the career booster he needed. I just thought Emmanuel Lewis laugh was too cute. How funny to have MC Hammer sleeping in a bunk above you. I just thought the whole sushi naked woman table meal thing was disgusting. She did look uncomfortable, but clean.:8) I had no problem with the guys sticking up for their morals. I don't drink for personal/religious reasons and my friends know that and it always cracks me up when they apologize to me...like I am their priest/pastor or something. I think I'm going to be watching this one! Hands down the most of out of touch comment was Brandy asking if tax on food was a new thing.

Kappy

Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 10:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I enjoyed the first episode. I was laughing out loud in a few spots. My first thought about Emmanuel's laugh is that it would get on someone's nerves but we'll wait and see. He just looked so excited that first day and night. Vince's words about the loss of his daughter were a heartbreaker. Watching them go around the neighborhood with brownies was a treat - especially the German woman who looked rather irritated when the dog helped himself inside the house. Hearing Feldman talk about his ex-wife and then having Vince announce from the back seat that he knew her was hilarious.

Feldman didn't bother me but Jerry definitely hasn't changed much. Anytime she's called on being a •••••, it's her same old "I'm just assertive and people don't like assertive women" routine. I wonder who she plants lies about first - Corey or Brande?

Shortnsweet

Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 11:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just want to comment about the tax on food - in California we only pay sales taxes on food that is prepared to be eaten right away, most of the food we buy in the grocery store is non-taxable.

C1mag

Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 11:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This show was just "ok" for me. I actually liked Jerry in this. Thought Corey was trying to provoke her and I didn't see that she was in denial over being called a b@tch. In fact I'm pretty sure she admitted to being a b@tch but at times was called one when she fealt she was only being assertive. There is a difference and I thought it made sense. I hate to say this but I probably won't be watching all of this one. It sorta just sat there for me. MC Hammer as a pontificating christian was a bit too much for me. Corey needing his woman every second was pathetic as well. Gabrielle could be some fun as she seems to voice her opinion and brande also seems like she might offer some fun. I guess in the back of my mind I'm thinking that performers are just too aware of the cameras so they will hold back how they really feel so I don't trust the editing on this one. So I'm gonna rely on you die-hards and check in here and read about it I guess LOL

P.S. I don't see a sequel in this one.

Jhezzie

Friday, January 10, 2003 - 12:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This looks like fun! Jerri said in a recent interview that Corey kept doing stuff "for his charactor," like he was playing "Corey".
She was like, "Dude. It's a reality show! There are no charactors."
I cracked up with Vince realizing that he dated Corey's ex. Ha.
I guess Robin Givens was supposed to do the show? I somehow can't see it.
BTW, what was up with the nekid girl sushi platter? I thought that was weird too. What do you write on your tax return under "occupation"? Dish?

Ryn

Friday, January 10, 2003 - 05:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The tax thing....

if you didn't see it maybe an explination would help...

They had $500 to buy groceries with, the six of them (JErri had not arrived yet) were going all around a store loading up carts with stuff. As they get to the check out they realize they have WAAYYY too much stuff and start sorting it out.

In the background you hear Gabrielle (I think) comment that they need to remember the tax is not included in the prices (or something like that). Thats when Brandi said something to the effect of, "They tax food? Is that new?"

I know here in Indiana some foods (most actually) are not taxed. Like milk, bread, etc etc etc. But their cart was loaded with other things and I think most of us would expect some things to be taxed. To see the comment was what made it funny, it just sounded like a "dumb blond" thing to say (and I am not trying to bash her). Think or Bush Senior (or was it Ronnie) discovering the Scanners in the grocery store, just smacks of someone a bit out of touch with the real world.

I will be watching it, especially since I will have 2 shots a week. Don't forget for those that missed it - it will re-air Sunday.

Frogichik

Friday, January 10, 2003 - 07:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ryn, Corey didn't propose to his girlfriend. They were already engaged (they were on Howard Stern a few months ago talking about it), he just asked her if they should get married on tv. As a side note, Corey's ex-wife Vanessa Marcil plays Brenda on General Hospital.

Brenda1966

Friday, January 10, 2003 - 07:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought this was very entertaining too. Feldman is a complete mess and from what I've heard this show does nothing to improve his reputation. So his fiancee and him have some kind of open relationship? A three-some is okay if she's along, but sitting at a table with a girl covered in sushi is morally wrong? He doesn't make any sense about anything (including his morality about eating animals vs wearing them). Hammer seems a bit too holier-than-thou for me, we'll see if he gets worse.

I think it would be hard not to treat Emmanuel like a child since he is so short and laughs like a kid. I don't remember how old he is but he must be around 30? Vince's story brought me to tears. I can't imagine going through that. He seems cool.

I loved that they all thought Jerri wasn't celebrity enough. She's certainly as famous as they are in the U.S. I still don't like her.

Rissa

Friday, January 10, 2003 - 07:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Just finished watching it (but missed taping the first 10 min.). LOL It's like watching a train wreck, I am not sure whether I should be entertained or calling in the 'white-suits'. :) Brande left no impression on me, except that Robin Givens should probably be increasing her security and getting caller ID. LOL Vince seemed like a good guy, just leave me alone type but affiable. Not sure what Emmanuel is doing on the show, he is obviously shy/quiet and private (maybe he was looking for the house down the road?). Jerri had me laughing, (at her not with her). LOL First they don't hear the door, then they don't know who she is, then they make jokes about her personality. If I had an ounce of compassion, I would have felt sorry for her. LOL Gabrielle? Lots of opinions, no reserve in spouting them? Not necessarily a bad trait, but I can see them editting her into a corner. Corey {sigh} Corey, Corey, Corey :) It's ok to kill animals for decorative purposes but not for survival? Be a vegetarian or don't be but for Lordy's sake figure out your reasons and then don't be a hypocrit. LOL His fiance seems very needy, grilling him about the women in the house? But then Corey seems just as needy, calling her so often. Finally the Hammer!! I didn't see him as preachy actually. I think when you are trying to get to know someone, you explain yourself more then you would with established friends. I saw him explaining his own actions and beliefs, not lecturing or judging the others. At this point, Hammer is definately my favorite 'person' and Jerri still the least (although Corey is gaining fast. LOL)

Squaredsc

Friday, January 10, 2003 - 07:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i loved the first show. jerri didn't bother me too much yet, and neither did corey. i must be in withdrawal. i loved vince, his story brought tears to my eyes. he was so real and not rock star-ish. i was wondering what happened to the girl from 90210, i liked her. i don't know the playmate but know the others.

emmanuel's laugh is annoying. oh, loved mercedes. and i can't believe these women sleep with hef, ick. sushi girl, wtf?

Warrenn

Friday, January 10, 2003 - 08:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Did anyone else notice Corey's hair changing during the confessional sessions? Sometimes his hair was blond and sometimes it was black. Sometimes he had a beard and sometimes he didn't. I guess they take clips from any point in the season and edit them in.

Ryn

Friday, January 10, 2003 - 08:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
lol - I almost pointed that out last night.

This was done over 10 days - Corey was a busy guy.

Weenerlobo

Friday, January 10, 2003 - 09:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I could only watch this during commercials breaks for CSI so I'm glad it'll be back on Sunday. I did see quite a bit though.

I think I'm gonna end up liking/respecting Vince the most which is funny, because I never liked Motley Crue very much and him especially. But it seems like he's a different person now and like he's sitting back a bit to watch how silly the rest of the housemates are gonna be.

The grocery shopping was hilarious. I see that Vince went directly to the wine department.

Corey struck me as quite needy himself, not to mention confused and conflicted. I know he's older than 18, but seems like he's having a hard time passin through teendom. I mean, isn't he in his 30's? He'd get on my last nerve real quick. The whole vegetarian argument was so sorry.

I didn't get to see Hammer eulogizing - he was pretty quiet every time I tuned in.

Brande doesn't seem like a bimbo, aside from the taxing food comment, which was editing, I'm sure, and explained by our West Coast friends. She seems pretty centered and comfy with herself, as does Gabrielle. Emmanuelle's laughter was cute to me, but then I was only there for 2 or 3 minutes at a time too!

Was there ever an explanation for the sushi woman? That was just bizarre. I wouldn't have been able to sit there and eat off of her.

I'll keep watching - it's definite roadkill

Avrey258

Friday, January 10, 2003 - 10:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I was watching the show with my 16 yr. old daughter. The only people she knew were Jerri from Survivor and Corey because of Goonies.

I thought it was funny when the Playboy girl kept talking about how Jerri wasn't in their social sphere so to speak. I never knew there was a hiearchy with has beens.

As for the tax on food thing, I didn't find that funny because in my state we only pay taxes on "some" food. Things like milk, eggs, meat, cheese are exempt. Only "junk" food, cookies, chips, candy, ice cream and the like are taxed.

I guess I must have missed the part about E. Lewis and his People's choice awards. I thought they were already in the house.

Did anyone else think this show was going to be more like "Big Brother"? I actually thought they were going to have to work for their food and I didn't think they were going to leave the house and be able to talk on the phone.

I didn't really care for the show. That doesn't mean I won't be watching though. My daughter gave up after the first half-hour.

Vixeninvegas

Friday, January 10, 2003 - 10:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'll chime in here with I enjoyed this show as well - sat & taped it so I could edit out the commercials. I actually watched it again this morning before work.

Hey random question - didn't the Osbornes say that Pat Boone used to live next door to them? I kept expecting to see them walking up the Osbonre driveway to deliver brownies. Hehe now that would have been funny. It didn't appear that their neighborhood was a fancy & as expansive as the Osbornes tho? Hmmm Just wondering.

I LOVE Vince - not long ago I read the Motely Crue (sp??) biography - he really went thru hell with his daughters sickness & untimely death. My heart goes out to him as you can obvioulsy see the man is still in pain 7 years later.

Eman's laugh also grated on my nerves. Corey - well yeah you all have said everything there is to say - that is one confussed self centered boy/man.

Gabrielle - well 90210 was one of my guilty pleasures for the entire time it was on so I knew I would come out enjoying her airtime.

The playboy bunny chick seems okay & didn't bug me at all - had to crack up over how much stuff she brought for 10 days tho - can we all say "high maintenance"?

I'm already looking forward to the next week show. I wish this was going to be on longer tho.

Seamonkey

Friday, January 10, 2003 - 10:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I read an interview with Jerri in our paper.. they are living in the former Glen Campbell estate (with many rooms blocked off so they have to share bedrooms), not Pat Boone.. who used to live next door to Ozzy..

So I don't think there is any nexus between this house and Ozzy at all :)

I also saw bits of this during CSI commercials..

Odd things like bringing a dog and enough luggage for a move, trophies?

Seems like Jerri was set up to be the outsider since they had her arrive late.

Yes, I think there is a hierarchy of has-beens and they probably consider Jerri to be a never- was since she is known for reality tv first rather than some other career.. but of course they are all down to the level of reality tv now, so shouldn't be so snooty.

I saw Vince telling his story.. very sad and seeing Jerri just stare at him.. not even touch his hand.. yes, maybe she was "shy" but.. be human.

Corey seemed totally annoying and the little guy too.

The best thing was reading Ryn's posts, and his enjoyment.. that makes it all worthwhile..

Weenerlobo

Friday, January 10, 2003 - 10:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh yeah - I wanted to ask - when Jerri was waiting at the front door, was it locked? Everyone else just walked in, so I was wondering why she was knocking, instead of just walking in and saying "hi."

Grooch

Friday, January 10, 2003 - 10:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
From TV Guide Insider


The Surreal Life Secrets Revealed!
Friday, January 10, 2003

The Surreal Life Secrets Revealed!



Last night's debut of The Surreal Life left us feeling amused, a little dirty and very curious. Hey kids, isn't that what reality TV is for? To review, here's the sitch: Seven B-list celebs were moved into a mansion Real World style, courtesy of the WB. The almost famous flock — Gabrielle Carteris, Corey Feldman, MC Hammer, Emmanuel Lewis, Jerri Manthey, Vince Neil and Brande Roderick — were then forced to interact. Their bickering and badmouthing led to some fun revelations... and a few nagging questions, which sent TV Guide Online a-prowlin' for the scoop.

In the van, Vince and Corey realized they'd both romanced Gabrielle's ex-90210 co-star "Vanessa." Corey called her his ex-wife and said, "She's not a nice person." Yikes! What's the story there?
They were dishing about Vanessa Marcil — who currently stars on General Hospital and is married to fellow 90210 grad Brian Austin Green. A rep for Marcil confirmed she was Mrs. Corey Feldman for a brief time, but declined to say more. Marcil's camp also had no comment about her dating Mötley Crüe dude Vince. (Yeah, if we were her, we'd gloss over that tidbit, too.)


Brande whined that Survivor Jerri was her roomie instead of a "real star" like Robin Givens. Was Givens ever invited to do Surreal? By the way, who the hell is this Brande, anyway?
Brande has posed for Playboy — just like Jerri! — and did the final season of Baywatch: Hawaii. Big whoop. And as for Givens? "We might have made her an offer," says executive producer David Garfinkle. "I just don't remember that." Oh, really? "Robin was approached, but she never agreed to do it," confirms Givens's rep. "There was no discussion other than that she said, 'You know, that's just not for me.'" Smart girl.

Speaking of Jerri, why did she show up so late on the first day?
"It was totally set up so I would show up late," Jerri laughs. "They originally told me I was supposed to be there at 8 am with everyone else. Then, they called me that morning and said, 'We're going to hold off and keep you out for awhile.' So I sat in a coffee shop for four hours, I went CD shopping and then they drove me around in a limo for two hours! I accused the producers of trying to create tension before I got in the house, and they're like, 'Oh no, we would never do that.' Yeah, you're talking to the reality pro here. I know what's going on!"


You know these out-of-work celebs didn't shack up together just for fun. How much bling-bling were they paid?
"I don't think it's fair to tell what people made," Garfinkle says. "I don't feel comfortable with that. Everyone did well, and I hope it was worth their while." Jerri's also keeping mum. "I never discuss money," she says. "Nobody still knows how much I made for Playboy! Many people have guessed, but I've been secretive. [The Surreal cast] never discussed it. 'Cause if you made more than someone else, you don't want to p--- anybody off. Talk about tension!"

So how much do we think the Surrealists earned?
"Okay, since these are not-so-new stars, they are most likely getting AFTRA scale — about $650 a day — plus 10 percent," says Carlo Capomazza, a Hollywood talent manager. "This is a job that a publicist most likely set up. Agents wouldn't find these gigs worth dealing with in most cases, and managers wouldn't really want their clients doing this reality stuff. I'm not sure why the girl who did 90210 is doing this, but she should call me!" — Daniel R. Coleridge

Squaredsc

Friday, January 10, 2003 - 10:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
he** for that much money i would stay in a house with strangers for 10 day, and they are being fed.