Tonight's episode 4/09
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Curious1

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 08:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
where was everyone at tonight? NO spoiling at all, I'm surprised! Guess I'm the only one who watched the show? Darn I was hoping to discuss it :(

Kady

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 08:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I had to record it so my son could watch Bernie Mac and Wanda at Large. I am shocked that no one else spoiled it. Maybe alot of people here are boycotting ABC?

Dee

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 10:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Where is everyone? I finally join and no one posts!

Curious1

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 11:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok well here are some of my comments.

I like the little brown haired girl Liz. She seems really sweet to me, thought she was a little overly emotional when the Christine girl left but I'm sure she was nervous about getting a rose. Does anyone else think that the bachelor's usually make the girls they really like wait for one of the last roses?

I think that Andrew had a bit of a blow to his pride when the girl Christine (I think that was her name) left. I bet that beings he is a cute liitle rich boy he isn't used to being turned down so outright very often!

I really thought that Amber the little blond girl was going to be a sweet little thing, but my oh my what a lush! I was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt after the first time but come on girl don't drink the wine if you know you get tipsy YOU ARE ON NATIONAL TV and this is your chance to make your first impression! I do think the producers edited it to look as if she was drinking more than she was though, I caught them showing the same scene with her tipping back the glass twice in a row at the spa.

that's it for now, I'll wait to post more later when I see what you all think

Clp

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 11:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think people get really into this show until the next couple of weeks when we can actually distinguish all these blones from one another.

That said, I actually like a Bachelor for once! Alex creeped me out and I felt like Aaron was only on for publicity.

Of course, I reserve the right to change my mind the first time he acts like a tool!

Tess

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 11:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My vcr went nutso on me tonight and only taped the very beginning and very end of the show so I essentially saw re-cap and previews but nothing of tonight. Why did Christine leave?

Beachcomber88

Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 12:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I told myself that I was not going to watch this third installment of the Bachelor. Didn't like the premise that the guy was a wealthy Firestone. Didn't like the thought of having to watch all these girls with dollar signs in their eyes. Didn't like the idea that the show was being marketed as a real Joe Millionaire.

I'm getting a bit tired of the same old Bachelor/ette being shoved down our throats by ABC. I guess it's their only successful foray into the reality tv market (goodbye The Mole, Are You Hot?, The Family), so it's not all that surprising. I'm sick of watching the same thing over and over again. Perhaps others are tiring of it as well, judging by the lack of discussion for the show. Just checked the boards - about 180 posts for this show versus over 7000 for American Idol.

I will admit that I caught some of the show tonight simply because there was nothing better on. I feel sorry for these girls who act as if their whole lives depend on the whim of an egocentric stranger that they've only known for several days. Liz was so nervous and quivering uncontrollably at the end that I wouldn't be surprised if she needed to change her dress right after the ceremony.

Curious1

Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 12:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
tess, she left because she said she couldn't see herself getting emotional involved with him.

Tess

Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 12:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks, Curious.

Fabnsab

Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 12:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I taped it in order to have a girls night out and as I was watching it, the tape ran out just as the rose ceremony began. I am surprised he got rid of Amy and Elizabeth. How did they all take it??When is he going to ditch Tina? That girl doesn't have a nice thing to say- ever!

I like that he hasn't kissed anyone yet. Both of the last bachelors had by this point. I really feel he is taking this process seriously.

Is it just me or does he sound like Keanu Reeves? I can't get it out of my head.

Fruitbat

Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 04:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I was here but MrBat wanted the computer. He seems to think it is half his. Rabbit suggested I slap the crap out of him. He is pretty quick on his feet so that is not playing out at all well.

I like this show, not sure why but I do.

I favor Liz. She seems genuine.

I disagreed several times with the roses. Christina? the one who cornered him did not make sense. (won is Las Vegas)

I was glad to see Shannon go, she reminded me of Christy from the last one. Very much so. The beauty pagent women do not fair well. Oddly they are the least attractive.

I was also dissapointed that the one who claimed she knew he found her beautiful got a rose.

I think Amber got drunk twice. They mentioned she was drunk at the rose ceremony itself and I believe that. We saw her head in a lap and her response to getting the rose seemed to reflect that opinion.

I thought it odd and a harbinger of things to come when he asked the one womnan "who is not here for the right reasons". He put her in a difficult position. The scene was editied but I don't think she dished. Did not help her but it would have been a lousy thing to do.

I like this guy.

Why on earth women pull him aside to discuss their relationship at this point is beyond me. Pull him away and talk about something relaxing in hopes of connection. Favorite food, movies, vacations.............anything at all except his attraction to them!

Audree, the mormon, is a very nifty woman so far. Unfortunately that religion carries a lot of baggage. I don't think he knows yet and that is not good.

Djgirl5235

Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 05:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm watching, but reserving judgement until I can actually tell them all apart! lol

The only one's that have gotten any reaction from me have been Liz (she reminds me of one of my friends); Cristine - can we say desperation; and Amber - falling over yourself and being stupid drunk at the rose ceremony just isn't attractive!!!

Marymc

Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 07:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
the only reason amber is still there is because she's so cute.....reminds me of the line from the movie "the truth about cats and dogs" when jenean garafalo says to uma thurman, "you puke and guys line up to hold your hair"....but hopefully andrew with see through the cuteness or the other girls will stop "taking care of her" when she does this. put her head in my lap? stroke her hair?? i would have laughed at her.....and left QUICKLY before she hurled on my dress.

Webkitty

Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 08:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I finally got to watch my tape of the first two episodes last night.
I don't understand why the girl that got drunk a few times is still there unless Andrew wasn't aware how loaded she was at the rose ceremony. He must have been buzy upstairs trying to decide who to give a rose to and didn't know it.

I like Andrew a lot! The guy is class all the way and easy on the eyes.

I agree with Bat regarding the conversations that some of them had with him. Keep it light for now!
The girl that had the private massage with him on the first episode had it right. Ask things like, are you a planner? This gives insight into what type of mind set he has, and isn't pushy.
Why did the long haired girl corner him and complain that she didn't feel he was attracted to him ? This is beyond me, and I can't belive she is still there. I think the producers must have a hand in this to some extent.

Anyway, my head is in Survivor today, so this is all I am going to comment on for now.

Realfan

Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 08:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
My husband was surprised he kept Liz only because she looked so desperate during the rose ceremony. So did several of them. It was getting a little pathetic. One regal blonde in the back was very poised. And it wasn't the ex beauty queen! She was rather butt ugly--and fake, and a clinger. Glad she left.

But I was glad Liz stuck around as one of the few brunettes, and one of the few I recognize. I get the blondes mixed up. Also, she seems sweet.

I don't know, if Amber was drunk and wanted to lay her head in my lap, I'd probably let her--that nurturing instinct and all. But I am amazed she got drunk twice in two days. Foolish, foolish girl. And it didn't hurt her. Gah!

I think I like this bachelor guy more than any of the others in the past. He seems genuine, and is willing to discuss how he feels about things (unlike the ever-equivocating AARON!).

ITA about the girls who want to discuss whether he's attracted to them and their "relationships" at this point. STOOPID. They should talk about who they are, or what his interests are--basic first date stuff.

Forgot to add . . . I like the girl he spoke about family with during the ballgame. Was her name Shannon? She seemed level-headed, and he is clearly interested and impressed by her. She'll go far.

Mlt

Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 08:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I really liked Liz and Audree. But I also have problems seeing Audree as 'the one'. It's not so much that she's Mormon. It's that her religious beliefs, according to what she said on the show, dictate against drinking and Andrew's family makes wine and he said that he has started making beer. I would think there would be some conflict there. If they haven't talked about that potential conflict yet, I really think they need to soon - before either one start developing emotions that can't be taken back.

I wasn't at all concerned about Amber getting drunk at the spa. But I have to admit that my eyebrows did go up when she did it again at the rose ceremony. On the other hand, she's young. And this is a pretty intense situation - maybe that will be the end of it.

Tess, to add to what Curious said, I thought that it was interesting that Christina took Andrew aside before the rose ceremony to tell him that she wouldn't be accepting a rose. It was more considerate, I thought, than just leaving during the rose ceremony. It gave her a chance to tell him in private (well, at least as private as this show allows) rather than in front of everyone.

Brenda1966

Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 10:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I didn't watch the first 2 Bachelors so I can't compare, but I think I like this guy. He seems sincere and not all ego. I cannot keep all these blond girls straight though! And, geez, some of them seem so young, too young to be getting married.

Cristine has this Crystal Gayle thing going with her hair and I don't think it's attractive. She also seemed too pushy. The women who cornered him to talk "relationship" reek of desperation.

Amber is a mess. I wonder if he was encouraged to keep her by the producers so we'd have some drama.

Clp

Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 10:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
In Amber's defense (yes I admit it, I like her, sue me! ;)); I live near Brooke's (B2) hometown and she did a sort of behind the scenes for the local news. Anyway, she said those rose ceremonies, especially the first two, took as long as 8 hours. So it is not surprising that if all they had to do is sit around and drink that someone might get a little tipsy. I also think that this is the character role for Amber; party girl. Some of the other girls seemed drunk to me (Tina S. at spa and most of the Vegas girls) but that wasn't showcased as much.

Marymc

Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 11:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
do they put out food for them? am sure i weigh a good 25 pounds more than amber and i know 2 glasses of champagne would knock me on my fanny without something to nosh on.

Djgirl5235

Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 11:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Mary - I outweigh her by a good 40 pounds, and I know one glass would knock me on my buttocks!

Brenda1966

Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 11:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'll excuse 1 drunken episode, but then she turned around and did it again! And after making a big deal about apologizing to Andrew. I think this shows a large lack of maturity.

But, hey, I'm looking forward to seeing how she handles herself in the future.

Realfan

Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 11:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
They need to give the ladies sodas to drink. Do they offer soft drinks instead of champagne? They always show them drinking champagne, like it's oh-so-CLAAAAASSY to drink champagne, ya know? ;)

Djgirl5235

Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 11:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah - right Realfan!! I know that if I want to look classy, the last thing I'll touch is champagne... there's something missing from the classiness of it all when I'm hanging my head over the toilet hurling from the migraine headache induced by the champagne...

Brenda1966

Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 12:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I find it extremely classy to drink tap water out of a champagne glass.... :)

Curious1

Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 01:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That tall blond tina from wisconsin seems like a real snob to me. (she was the one wearing the pretty red and white sequined dress with black on the bottom).

When andrew was telling her that he couldn't tell if she was into him and he wanted to know because he thought she was beautiful and that he'd be lucky to date someone like her she said "I know." He laughed it off, but my hubby and I both thought "dude she wasn't really kidding." She followed it up with "I hope you look to the inside also because I'm more than my beauty" (that's not word for word but she said something along those lines).

I agree there's more to beauty but they way she said it was like I know I'm beautiful, and honestly I haven't seen anything to show she's nice on the inside either. Time will tell I guess, but the first impression wasn't good imo.

Clp

Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 01:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It is funny how we all see things differently, because I thought she was totally kidding!

The way she said "I Know" than waited a beat a busted out laughing, my friends and I were like, "Finally, one of these girls is having fun with the process and joking with him."

Last night - with Shannon crying after knowing this guy like 10 minutes and LIz, who I think I like, but will forever more be known as "Twitchy Liz" after last night's rose ceremony - I was thinking that this batch seems to be the most desperate ever or all have seen this show enough to want to come in second so they can be Trista 2.0.

Ginger1218

Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 03:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So, I must have missed it, but why do they all hate Christina (the one that won the private date with him) Didn't they call her a b*tch?

Fruitbat

Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 03:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Realfan, the girl at the basketball game was Audree (Mormon), the one the player gave the other white jersey to as his pick.

He also connected to the woman who said her backgound could get in the way do to the vast class difference.

The woman who is tending to Amber.......holding her head and tending her while vomiting is a good woman. She has mentioned, to the camera, that she is concerned about her drinking but not in a catty way. Just her close observation and bond. Nice woman. (I would have held her head too, why not)

Mlt, I agree. A Mormon may not be the girl for him no matter how dynamite she may be and so far she gets high marks from me. Unfortunately, a strong religious calling does not mesh well with one who opposes that stance.

Christina was very cool in telling him ahead that she would leave. Not her man and kudos.

Brenda,I am thinking the same thing. My observation is that the Bachelor has a strong opinion on some women he would like to persue. Production fills in the blanks for the drama. No way did Aaron want to keep Christy for another round but it was good entertainment.

Curious, yes. Her comment was from a history of being viewed for her looks. Now that she is out of highschool/college she better take a second look. She is surrounded by beauty that surpasses/is equal to her inside and out. I am surprized he chose her also. Again I blame production. They saw a possible story in the making. Eachbachelor has connected with 5 tops. The rest is engineered.

Guminherhair

Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 06:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was kind of surpised he didn't pick the Child Life Specialist (don't know names yet except for Amber, easy to remember as its a type of beer). She seemed to have a good head on her shoulders and I liked her candor, even if she was a bit full of herself.
He likely didn't think anything of Amber's drinking, on account of the family business. Maybe Amber should familiarize herself with the wine tasting method of swirl, roll and spit, which would be in stark contrast to the swill, hurl and deny routine we've witnessed so far.

I think the bachelor seems nice enough but has anyone noticed the droopy eye thing he has going on? I think it gets worse when he drinks.

Fruitbat

Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 07:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Production keeps him posted. He is very aware that Amber has a drinking problem. This is entertainment first. They informed him of Amber drinking heavily had he not noticed on his own. He is not attracted to her in the LEAST! No one can convince me otherwise.

He chose her because he ran dry on his best choices, they told him to keep her for interest and plot.

Think about it. If this man really really had 15 choices they would go with it. Of course he did not. I think he already has his attractions narrowed down to a few. We could all do that in a heartbeat.

Aaron was totally turned off to Christy from very early on. She made two cuts beyond reason. They told him to include her for interest.

Guminherhair

Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 08:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Fruit, in my heart of reality show hearts, I know that Amber remains for entertainment purposes only. Sadly, Amber's pickins' are easy, akin to shooting fish in a barrel of rum. I prefer the dynamic potential of intellect, beauty and ego.

Bandit

Friday, April 11, 2003 - 10:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
HA! He does sound like Keanu Reeves.