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Snoopsmom

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 06:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, I can't stay away from AI too long, but I just clicked over to the After the Rose show. Andrew and Jen REALLY look happy together, laughing and joking, and very comfortable. Someone asked Andrew if there would be a pre nup and he said no, that was a chicken's way out of a relationship.

Grannyg

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 06:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This has been the best.........next to Trista and Ryan. Jen and Andrew look WONDERFUL together. They really seem so happy!!

Grannyg

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 06:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They are fixing to have Kirsten with Jen and Andrew!!

Guminherhair

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 07:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've been giggling periodically about the jeweler's spoof. That was hilarious! I think the bloopers were my favorite part of tonight's show. It really showed the spontaneous kind of intimacy between Aaron..Andrew and Jen.

I think Kirsten wished she knew exactly what Andrew's brother said so she could've had a better spin.

Twinkie

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 07:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Can someone give those of us unable to tear ourselves away from AI a little of what went on during the show? I want some details. Maybe it will help my breaking heart.

Mlt

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 07:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I actually enjoyed when Andrew kept burping when they showed the bluppers (I know, I'm weard). I just thought it really showed how comfortable he was with Jen. It really made it look like a real relationship.

And I enjoyed when Chris asked Andrew if it was hard watching the show and Andrew responded by saying (I'm going to quote so that I get the words right): "It is hard to imagine what I was thinking going through all that [the show] - knowing what I know now." I thought that said it all. The look on Jen's face at the time said quite a bit, too.

And apparently it even rained in Palm Springs.

Mlt

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 07:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just saw your message, Twinkie. I thought Jen and Andrew looked really happy. Apparently, Jen's apartment is already packed and she is moving out to where he lives immediately. She will be staying with him briefly (and they both went on to inform their parents that it would just be briefly - that they wouldn't be living in sin). They haven't set a wedding date (one step at a time).

Mlt

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 07:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, one more thing I found really interesting was that they had a clip of one of Andrew's friends (the woman) expressing concern that Kirsten could be a gold digger.

Twinkie

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 08:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh Mlt! Thank you so much! I'm so happy to hear that they are really going to be together. I always did get a much more sincere feeling from Andrew than I did from either of the other Bachelors. I hope they have a wonderful, long life together.

Fabnsab

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 08:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought the show was great. They all seemed to have so much fun with eachother, chris included. The bloopers were fantastic! They showed us a side to Andrew we didn't really get to see. He is hysterical. Also, it let us in on how close he and Jen really got. After seeing that, I have no doubts he chose her for the right reasons. God, I hope they can make it. I think the show setup makes it harder on these couples by making them wait so long to see eachother, then to deal with the media blitz...It takes a strong love and commitment to get through that.

Ok, on to Kirsten...when he said the ex wasn't his reason for dumping her, what was exactly said and what did Jen say? I missed the only part I wanted to hear


I am ready for Bob. I hope they make sure all 25 girls are there for Bob and not for exposure. To watch as he finds the right match to his crazy personality will make for good tv.

Mlt

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 10:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Fab, I think Andrew said something about the family visit only having a small influence on him.

Andrew didn't seem to have a problem with the boyfriend. He commented that he had x-girlfriends. He went on to say that the boyfriend issue made him feel stupid but it didn't really have much of an influence on his final decision.

And then Kirsten interupted with a whole thing about how, because his questions weren't specific enough about the boyfriend issue, that she didn't have a chance to defend herself. She seemed to feel that Andrew never gave her a chance to explain the situation.

Then Chris asked Jen how she felt about this - about the idea that the final decision might have come down to the boyfriend issue.

Andrew interupted before Jen could answer saying that that's not what it came down to. He said that he and Kirsten had a great time together but that he and Jen were perfect together. Then he reitterated that the whole thing did not come down to the x-boyfriend.

Then the conversation changed to Chris asking Jen how uncomfortable she was sitting there with them.

Hope that answers your question.

Fabnsab

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 10:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
yes, it does. Thanks so much. I had two screaming toddlers while I'm trying to listen. Did Jen look like this topic has come up between them?

Mlt

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 11:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, Fab. It didn't look to me as if he was saying anything she wasn't fully aware of already. And I got the distinct impression that the question didn't bother her (but that was just my impression).

I came to the conclusion that even if it was a major factor, she's confident enough in their relationship now that she's not overly bothered by it.

Grannyg

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 03:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jen said that all of them being together was kinda tense but the entire time, Andrew was holding her hand, had his arm around her, so I think Andrew did all he could to help her NOT feel tense about the whole deal. At the very end of the show when they were rolling the credits Chris, Jen and Andrew walked out into the audience to talk to them and after just a second or two, Andrew came back to Jen and hugged her and planted a kiss on her. He really seemed happy to be back with her. The outtakes really showed how close Jen and Andrew had gotten. Stuff they never showed us. So after seeing that you could tell that the decision WAS made long before the x boyfriend deal. Remember when Andrew kept saying about Kirsten and the ex "I got all the answers I needed." or "She gave me the answers I needed." I think that meant that he too knew things were not settled and she WAS still holding onto both worlds. He never said "She gave me the answers and I believe the ex is gone." Remember the other girls told him about the ex but I do believe that he was upset that Adam knew MORE than he did. Kirsten kept saying Andrew never gave her the opportunity to EXPLAIN everything. He never asked the RIGHT questions. Once again they showed the clip with the horrid look in the kitchen that last night. Kirsten as usual was blaming everyone else but herself in the deal. The other girls sabotaged her, yada, yada, yada. I loved the show and thought they did a great job of showing that Jen and Andrew were much closer than we thought and even Bob said that he hoped he was as lucky as Trista and Ryan, Jen and Andrew. Jen and Andrew both had HUGH smiles on their faces the whole time (except for the time Kirsten was on there).

Texannie

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 06:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I just loved this show last night!! Loved that he came out, gave Jen a big old hug and immediately gave her the ring..let her put it on this time! ;)
Loved the outtakes, but the all time best ever tv moment was with the jeweler!!!!!! My huband and I just howled!!! I still giggle thinking about it, especially the jeweler's reaction to his own joke.
Loved the burbing outtakes!!!

Froggiegirl621

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 07:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought the show last night was perfect - except for having to listen to Kirsten's "excuses" over and over, it's really getting old! LOVED the out-takes!!! I was laughing so loud, my boyfriend came into the bedroom (where I was watching) to ask what the heck was going on! I think the bloopers gave us a chance to see their relationship as a real and normal and very comfortable one. They ARE perfect for each other...I wish them a long and happy life together, because they deserve it!

Mlt

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 07:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I still giggle about the moment she broke her rose in half after the final rose ceremony and Andrew told her she was such a psycho.

Did anyone understand what Jen said in the scene that followed that?

Cupcake

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 08:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't recall what Jen said, but Chris (or maybe it was someone from the audience) asked her if she had kept all the roses she received from Andrew and she said no, they had gotten trampled on or lost in the shuffle. It was sweet that Andrew said he would give her all the roses she wanted (or something to that effect). God, my brain is turning to mooooosh. :)

I found it very funny in the outtakes how many times the girls called him "Aaron" instead of "Andrew." Jen, too.

Fabnsab

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 08:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The jeweler was the best. You think he is a staunchy person and then, bam, he is absolutely hysterical. And he was so proud of the joke. It was a great moment. I would have loved to see Andrew's reaction to that one.

Cupcake

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 08:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, I forgot to say that it was also very sweet that Andrew bought her a new watch and when he gave it to her he called her "honey." I think these two are genuinely in love and I am very happy to see it.

Mlt

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 08:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You guys need to take a look at this:

http://extratv.warnerbros.com/dailynews/extra/05_03/05_21a.html

Now, that's the only place I've seen this - they didn't say anything about a date on the show, so who knows if Extra got it right. But... Wow!

Max

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 09:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Interesting since they said on the show last night that they hadn't set a date yet, they wanted to take some time to let things sink in and settle down some. They did confirm the move to San Francisco, but didn't mention her family moving. Andrew said the apartment was lined up, her stuff was packed and they were basically moving her in the next few days.

Given how smitten they seem to be, I wouldn't be surprised if they set a date for next spring, though. Andrew might be the first bachelor to actually follow through!

Sherbabe

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 09:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, I too, thought it sweet when he gave her a watch. Considering he never told Tina F she could keep the other one.
Seems like they both have good heads on their shoulders. Really rooting for them to make it.

Fabnsab

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 09:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
My sister noticed that when Andrew said to Chris, "thats such a dope watch!", he was probably mocking Tina fabulous because of what she said about his watch. I think she may be right. Too funny!

Faerygdds

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 10:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually the article confirms what they says more than going against it. It says they are shooting for spring. That means they have decided they want a spring wedding, but have not yet set a date. My guess is that they want to marry in spring, but spring is so close, so they aren't sure they are going to make it- time wise. So they aren't making anything official as of yet as they may have to change THIER expectations.

We'll see... I'm just so happy that they are happy!