Archive through May 08, 2003
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Tonight's episode-May 7, Wednesday:
Archive through May 08, 2003
Surealityjunkie | Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 07:05 pm     Abby, Tina said that she thinks her man is out there somewhere but being barefoot and pregnant on a vinyard is not her idea of Fabulous... sour grapes -- no pun intended... I think he made the right choice tonight. |
Abby7 | Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 07:08 pm     Thanks Surealityjunkie! Unreal she said that! Absolutely sour grapes. Once she told Andrew how much she cared, he dumps her shortly thereafter. Ouch, but she kind of deserved it, don't you think? |
Bracken | Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 07:10 pm     They just showed a small bit with Tina and Andrew in the jacuzzi. She was being fairly negative and bossy -- stay on your side, this tub is small, etc. Bet she didn't connect with him during the overnight. I find it pretty tacky that he spent the night with all three. Tina seems a bit stiff to me, but I liked her. Well, I can't wait for the reunion show to see what the gals really think of him. Now I'm definitely rooting for Jen. |
Fabnsab | Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 07:18 pm     Well, I can't see his family liking Kirsten over Jen so I think we're safe. She is marriage material. Why is it that every Bachelor show has the couples kissing in compromising positions with champagne in their hands? Put the glass down! |
Mlt | Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 07:19 pm     I'm sort of angry at Andrew at the moment. Don't get me wrong, I've been chearing for Jen for weeks. But the noises we heard coming from that room sure made it sound as if a lot more than kissing was going on. I don't blame Tina for closing down when she didn't get a rose. |
Abby7 | Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 07:21 pm     Tina IS stiff. Her sarcasm, hard-to-get routine does get old after awhile. I would think it would be hard to have a really good time with a person like that. She always has to put up that "better than you" front. She really wants to be desired. |
Surealityjunkie | Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 07:24 pm     I agree Bracken, there wasn't much there between them and they were in Hawaii!!! He had more fun bowling in Arizona than he did in that warm tropical isle... I digress I missed most of the first date but saw how well he seem to click with Jen. Then when he met Tina, it just seemed like she had to work to hard to make him see how she felt. I didn't think it looked to good when they had the talk at dinner and she was caught off guard from his deep discussion questions... |
Dogdoc | Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 07:24 pm     Yeah Mit, I was wondering when they were going to cut the audio on Tina and Andrew. I wonder if they forgot about their microphones. |
Surealityjunkie | Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 07:26 pm     Mlt, I caught those "Joe Millionaire in the woods" noises, too. I felt like a voyeur and hoped it wasn't what I thought. I was thinking the same thing, too, to some degree. I thought it was kinda sad if anything did happen that she/he felt it needed to go there to try and convince him she's the one. Someone hopefully showed some restraint... |
Abby7 | Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 07:28 pm     Mlt: I haven't seen the episode yet. However, I can see what you are saying about Andrew. He also puts on an act IMO. He knew what Tina was doing all along, but as soon as she lets him know how she feels he dumps her. That was mean. He could have done it before she told him. Sometimes I wonder how innocent some of Andrew's comments were. He, at times, acted like he made a "mistake" when making a comment. He then corrected himself when the girl got upset...putting on an innocent act. Not sure if I'm making myself clear on the above but for instance: once he said to a girl "when you dragged me out here". she got upset, then he corrected himself. another time he said to Christy "yeah, I kissed you because you wanted me to". she got upset and then he corrected himself. It just seems like he makes "mistakes" on purpose sometimes. |
Fabnsab | Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 07:40 pm     Abby, I remember both of those instances but I see them differently. Men always "make mistakes" with us women. They never seem to be able to say the right thing to us. My poor husband only has to contend with saying the right thing to one woman, how must Andrew feel with 25? Men are from Mars, women are from Venus... |
Abby7 | Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 07:43 pm     I used to feel that way too Fab. Men aren't THAT dumb though and not that innocent. |
Watching2 | Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 08:50 pm     If I were Tina, I'd be pretty embarrassed they didn't edit out all that grunting and groaning when they closed the drapes and she got booted! They didn't let us hear anything with the other girls, just the doors closing. One could hope they were only doing "heavy petting?" LOL Ummm, but it sure sounded like from what Kirsten said, she was ready to go at IT!!!! lol I like Jen the best. She's the most mature and nice as far as I'm concerned. I couldn't really stand Tina from the beginning. I disliked her more than Kirsten because I really didn't think she was ALL THAT and certainly NOT fabulous! I'm glad she's gone. Next week looks interesting in that it sounds like they're going to let the two remaining girls comment on what the other 23 are saying about them. That's new this time. I really need to get a life. LOL |
Watching2 | Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 08:51 pm     PS. I forgot to mention, the one thing I'll give the last bachelor is, he didn't sleep with any of the girls before he chose, even if it didn't work out. |
Donut | Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 09:12 pm     this was a good nite for the nice down to earth girls...first Kim L, and now Jen.. TV redeemed itself a bit tonite.. |
Uhoh | Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 11:19 pm     i'm clearly in the minority, but i liked tina. i thought andrew was the more unsympathetic character at the end. tina had told him she cared for him, she was falling for him and was scared. so, when he cut her loose, his concern seemed less for her than for himself when he criticized her for 'not meeting him halfway by giving a more heartfelt goodbye' - what? the woman was just dumped, holding herself together, and he wants her to open herself to him by feeding his ego and making HIM feel good? i'll admit to not being taken with andrew, but that cinched it for me. i don't care for the guy. he deserves kirsten :P |
Kizz | Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 04:21 am     Uhoh, that was what I thought too! He sounded REALLY put out that she didn't fawn and beg act like she was so grateful he had brought her that far! Such EGO! I was thinking "Run Jen, run! You are too nice for him"! |
Eliz87 | Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 05:54 am     Uhoh, you are not alone. Tina was my favorite. Heaven forbid a gal should have a little confidence and not throw herself at a man. Tsk tsk. Also, I'm rooting for Kirsten now. I just find Jen a little "blah." |
Foliage | Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 05:59 am     uhoh and Kizz,I couldn't agree with you more. Andrew is all about affirming Andrew, he isn't understanding how frustrating the girls' position is. They have to lay it on the line for him but he can't/won't be honest about his feelings. Let him have Kirsten, Jen's too good for him. |
Julieboo | Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 06:08 am     To me, Jen looks like Karen from Once & Again, and kinda acts like her too. She is a little "blah." (and she doesn't like dogs!) I like Kirsten best. |
Theowl | Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 06:19 am     Julieboo!! That's it!! All this time, I was trying to figure out who she looked like!! Thank you for being so good with faces!! I didn't like Karen at the beginning, she was a , but I liked her at the end. I miss that show!! Edited to add that I didn't think the red dots would catch the 1 instead of an i. Damn they're good!! |
Curious1 | Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 06:44 am     uhoh, I totally agree with you about Andrew's comment "Once again I put myself out there and hoped she'd met me half way and she didn't" (or something along those lines) I yelled at the TV "Well you just dumped her what do you expect!". He just wants women to feed his ego by being crushed when he lets them go. Tina was never my favorite but I think it was very wrong of Andrew to engage in what was obviously at least "heavy petting" if not more with her just a day or two before he dumped her. I do agree with what Tina said "those two roses were already Jen's and Kirsten's". I believe that's true and Andrew should have shown some restraint since I think he knew Tina was a long shot in his picks anyway. Aaron from the last bachelor was no angel but at least he didn't sleep with the girls and dump them the next day. This bachelor andrew just doesn't seem as concerned with the girls feelings as he should be. If tina has developed this "I can't give you my heart" attitude because of guys treating her badly before, then this will just reinforce that feeling in her. |
Fabnsab | Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 06:46 am     If you have AOL, you should look at their "morning after" footage and if you don't go to abcs site and listen to Tinas goodbye. She states she just left a wonderful 7 year relationship and she wasn't meeting Andrew half way because she wasn't ready to give her heart. She also said her feelings were more juvenile and crush-like and she knows they weren't real. If Andrew felt a bit of what she was saying, he was right about her. The producers need to realize one thing for next time. If you fill a room with girls under 24, chances are you're going to get a room full of girls on the show to get over or show up an ex. This is the age when most people end their first serious relationship, it may have started in high school, or college. They need to get a wider scope of young women. |
Jedisan | Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 07:48 am     I posted a note under the Meet the Bachelor thread that should have been here. can it be moved? |
Lori | Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 08:02 am     Andrew talks "the talk" to all the girls. When I'm with you blah blah blah...leading them to believe they will get a rose. His comment about Tina not opening up with a heartfelt goodbye...give me a break. How egotistical can you get - I dump you and you still have to kiss my feet? Geez! Saw Tina on the morning show this a.m.and let me tell you, she looked FABULOUS! Regis and Kelly had a telephone interview with Andrew this morning. Just caught the tale end. Regis made the comment that Kirsten sounded like a "valley girl" (he's 100 percent right there, very irritating) and Andrew just laughed and said "what can I say?" I hope he picks Kirsten...they deserve one another! |
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