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Hermione69

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 06:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
:) I understand.

Ladytex

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 06:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
PROUD TO BE A RUBEN FAN

I, too have been offended by some of the racially insensitive remarks made on this board

Babyjaxmom

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 04:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Although my heart belongs to Clay, I'll admit as the weeks go by I'm more and more impressed with Ruben. He is a big teddy bear and his voice is amazing. But, puhleeeeeze! Enough with the 205 shirts already! He would look so much nicer in something a little less gimicky. I'm sick to death of his 205 shirts and I'm sure I'm not the only one. I just hate to see the gimick overshadow his singing or even--heaven forbid--backfire on him. Don't ya'll think he would look gorgeous in a nice suit with a long jacket? He looks like he's on his way to the gym.

Please, forgive me Ruben lovers. I just had to vent my frustration. I really do see him in the final two (along with Clay, of course).

Denecee

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 04:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I love Ruben's singing, but I'm done with the 205 shirts. I asked my teenage daughter if she thought he should get rid of the 205 shirts and she said "no".

Hotlantan

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 06:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Last paragraph of Vanessa Olivarez's PETA photoshoot interview on Entertainment Tonight:

Despite being eliminated from the "American Idol" competition, Vanessa still stays in touch with a few of the current contenders, and she shares with ET, "I really hope RUBEN wins. His personality is amazing, he is so nice, and listen to him. You would be crazy not to vote for him. He is amazing."

http://www.etonline.com/celebrity/a15299.htm

Ladytex

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 07:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Ruben detractors for sharing your opinions in the RUBEN FAN CLUB. If you don't like him or something about him, there are plenty other threads that you can "vent your frustrations" in. I've counted at least five threads where people are complaining about his shirts. Can't we have ONE thread where we can celebrate this fine young man without someone coming in here to criticize him?

Prisonerno6

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 09:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just finished watching Simon on Leno tonight. When asked who he thought would win, he said based on this week's performance, Ruben, to much cheering and some booing from the audience. He said he could have said Clay and gotten a cheer, too, which the audience did, but not as much as for Ruben -- a point Simon noted. Then he said, "Clay, a great singer. Ruben, a great singer. One's a pop star." And that was the end of the interview.

(Great story about how he was arrested as a kid for hijacking a bus with a pea gun...)

Prisonerno6

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 09:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hear ya, LadyTex. Imagine what would happen if someone were to go to the Clay Fan Club thread and say "Enough with the untucked dress shirts already! He would look so much nicer in something a little neater. I'm sick to death of his dress shirts with the tails hanging out and the top button undone and I'm sure I'm not the only one."

Just venting my frustration...

Walker

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 09:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
prisonerno6..i would like to say that when i made the thuggish comment it was in no way meant to be racist as i am african american myself and in no way was i directing it at ruben as i certainly do not see him that way, however i do realize that the way i phrased it made it sound that way..in all honesty i had not thought about simons comment to ruben about wanting him to win the competition when i made the comment..i was thinking about a lot of the stars in the industry today who in my opinion are rather thuggish and thugs come in black an white..again it was not a dig at ruben or racist..my apologies to you and anyone the comment may have offended.

Walker

Friday, April 04, 2003 - 10:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
prisonerno6..one more thing i'd like to clear up
in your post you mentioned that you noticed many negative things that i have said about ruben..i have never said anything negative about ruben other than there was one time in another thread that i had made a really bad joke about simon being afraid to say anything about rubens weight because he was afraid that ruben and his brother may sit on him and squash him..and that is what was being discussed at the time in that thread and as i said it was a bad joke and my apologies for that also but other than that ive never said anything negative about ruben..i have no problem atall with ruben although he's not my favorite i do feel that he's a good singer and appears to be a decent person.

Prisonerno6

Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 03:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Walker, without even wasting time doing a search, I can point out another comment you made I found to be rather negative about Ruben. In this very thread, the week Ruben sang "Sweet Home Alabama" you said, "i'll bet that if ruben becomes the next american idol its BYE BYE BIRMINGHAM." Now, considering how proud Ruben has been about his hometown, wearing the 205 shirts, singing about Alabama, implying he will forget all about it if he wins this competition is hardly a compliment.

As for your "thuggish" comment not being directed towards Ruben, what has Simon ever said that made you think he'd want a "thuggish" person to win this competition? I guess I'll just have to take your word for it that your comment wasn not directed towards Ruben, because I honestly don't see any other interpretation, given the context.

As for my characterization of the comment as racist I will withdraw that with my apologies. If, as you say, the comment was not directed towards Ruben, then my reason for thinking it was racist does not exist.

Walker

Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 07:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
prisonerno6..i personally don't think that the alabama comment was negative..i would say that about any of the idols..and to answer your question it's not any one thing that simon has said that makes me think that..it's just that those are the types that are marketable in the hip hop culture today and simon knows that..and he does'nt think that clay is..and as i said in no way was i even thinking about ruben at the time i made the comment..and im sure that if one of the types that im talking about were in this competition simon would'nt be pushing so hard for ruben either and i could name a few types but i won't..ruben and carmen are the only two that simon see's as marketable..ruben because he has a good luther vandross style voice which would do well in R&B and carmen because she is the cute little blond girl who even though her voice is not that good would do well in pop or hip hop simply because of the way she looks..simon knows what sells and that is what i was trying to say.

prisonerno6..my question for you is why would you automatically assume that i was racist when i made that comment..why would you assume that i was talking about black people?..i mean do thugs not come in all colors?

Moderator

Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 07:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, okay. This thread needs to get back on track. If you guys would like to discuss thugness or other things, please start a thread and take the conversation there.

Please remember - this goes for EVERYONE - to keep discussions TOPIC related, not poster related.

*Thank you*

Webkitty

Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 09:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I saw Simon on Leno last night, and I got the impression that when the audience was cheering for Ruben, the "booing" was not booing, but cheering the same way they do on the show. Like, ROOOBEN, know what I mean?

Ruben did seem to gets more cheers than Clay, which was noted by Simon.
Jay asked him who he thought would win, and Simon said based on the last performance, Ruben, because although Clay has a great voice, he thinks Ruben is a "pop" star.
Jay also asked Simon about his "grumpyness" and Simon said, look, whoever wins this competition will end up being a multi-millionair and won't have to work for the rest of their lives, if they can't take a little critisizm, get out. lol.
He also said he will have nothing to do with the childrens version of AI.
What else, he said he could care less about all the brushes with the law some contestans have had, and that he got arrested when he was 12 with a friend, because they used toy guns to hijack a bus. They did this as a prank and never thought the bus driver would take two kids with toy guns that shoot peas, seriously. The bus driver drove 20 miles and then stopped, and Scottland Yard was there and arrested Simon and his friend. Simons parents made him pick up stones on their farm for a week as punishment. (whatever that means)

Tabbyking

Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 09:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
it's kind of funny, but 12 seems pretty old to 'joke' around like that... maybe at age 6 or something. how strange that simon had to work on his family's own farm 'as punishment'. maybe he never had to work before that!? lucky guy!!

i took the 'bye bye birmingham' as ruben moving out to hollywood or wherever the person who wins goes to for their recording and publicity, etc. that he would be physically gone from alabama, not emotionally. the hard part about posting is that things in print can be read with any inflection the reader gives it! it might not be what the poster meant...

remember "my cousin vinny"? it's my favorite movie....and the kid is amazed to find out the sheriff thinks he killed the clerk in the sack o' suds? the kids says, in total disbelief and with his voice shooting off the charts, "I SHOT THE CLERK?!" twice.
when they read it in court, however, there is no surprised question in the reading. it comes out, "...and the defendant said, 'i shot the clerk. i shot the clerk.'"

Webkitty

Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 10:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Tabby, you may be on to something. I have (for some reason) always had the impression that Simon came from money.
I also get the impression that Simon was a wild child He has a little devil twinkle in his eye.

I was waiting to see if he would say something about Ruben's 205 shirts, but he made no mention of them.

Serate

Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 10:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
" it's kind of funny, but 12 seems pretty old to 'joke' around like that.."

Remember tho that Simon was age 12 in a different era. Kids were kids longer back then, and not as much violence then as now. Not condoning Simon's actions just merely stating that 25 years ago it was a much MUCH different world.

Back to Ruben, as I have stated before I like both Ruben and Clay, so IF one gets booted before the other I'll vote for the one that stays.

Good luck Alabama boy!

Tabbyking

Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 11:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
hmmmm, i'm 48...some things weren't different at all back then. if i had taken a pea shooter gun onto a bus, my parents would have beaten the 'pea' out of me!!

i, too, will be for whichever of our boys makes it to the finals, if it isn't both of them.

Prisonerno6

Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 07:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ruben was cookin' with gas tonight. He looked good, sounded good, and made it all seem easy. Every week he brings just a little more to the show -- and even pulled off wearing a hat!

Based on Simon's comments ("If you released that song tomorrow, you'd have a number one hit") I think no matter what, Ruben will end up with a recording contract out of this.

Abbynormal

Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 08:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
On our local news they always have a big deal going after AI each week. Tonight's was just hilarious. The question was who do you think should go next. Some of the answers were Cameron, Jacob and that army guy. The reasons were even funnier. Everybody knows Ruben though and everybody loves him.

Realbiz

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 09:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ruben WILL get a record deal regardless of the outcome of the competition - Simon has expressed his view many times. If he does have a greatest fan base out there, he will succeed. He did not grasp me right at the beginning (like Kelly last time) but has grown more to me with each week. Good job Ruben :)

Abbynormal

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 01:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I had to go downtown this morning which is rare for me. There were "GO RUBEN" billboards everywhere. Nothing else, just those 2 words. It was kinda cool and I wish I had a camera with me for some reason. I liked the simplicity of them.

Ladytex

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 02:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That is so cool, Abby. I wish you'd have had a camera, too. I'd love to see those billboards.

Fluff

Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 06:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I loved the Ford commercial thing he did with Carmen last night!

Marameko

Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 07:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sure the 205 shirts are tired, but not enough that I need to make any more comments on them. Instead I will close my eyes and listen to the brother sing as he IS GOING TO WIN........no doubt in my little mind.