Archive through April 17, 2003
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Archive through April 17, 2003
Maris | Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 08:44 pm     The AOL poll after tonights show. If you look at the numers before tonights show it looks like Kimberly Locke has picked up all of Kimberly C's votes. Ruben Clay and Josh holding steady.: Which singer on 'American Idol' is your favorite? 39% Ruben Studdard 5,844 29% Clay Aiken 4,382 13% Joshua Gracin 1,959 10% Kimberley Locke 1,518 4% Trenyce 672 4% Carmen Rasmusen 638 |
Hummingbird | Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 08:56 pm     I am very impressed with Carmen's poise and grace especially concidering she is so young. She takes criticism well and is respectful to all the judges and other contestants. She is also beautiful and doesn't appear to be conceited. She doesn't sing well enough to be the winner but she is still not all that bad. |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 09:04 pm     I noticed that Trenyce hugged no one when she was called to the floor and did not grasp Carmens hand as Kim did. Her hugs seemed strained when she was returned to the pack. She is very cool and removed from the audience and it appears her roomates as well. I would like to see her out next. She has never grabbed me in any way. |
Walker | Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 09:08 pm     i think that trenyce thinks she's gods gift to the world..but she's sadly mistaken imo. |
Monkeyboy | Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 09:09 pm     ITA, Fruit |
Wink | Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 09:13 pm     I think Trenyce was in shock because she had such positive feedback from the judges and wasn't expecting to be bottom 3. She's certainly talented but does not touch the audience the way the others do. |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 09:52 pm     With you on that one Bat!! Trenyce is working on the Diva attitude and as Cher said in an interview the other day "A diva is just a b!tch who can sing".. |
Jk300 | Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 05:38 am     Last nite just proves that they should charge for voting. I think people will pay .99 per call & some will vote more than once, but IMHO I think it will stem flood voting. On the other hand I am sure FOX loves saying 17M (or more) people voted in 2 hrs. AI is a package concept of talent, charisma, stage presence & other intangible qualities. Since talent is only one criteria it doesnt aLways win out. |
Hobbs | Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 06:11 am     Good morning, all. Well it was quite a night, wasn't it. I was sure Carmen was gone when it was down to her and Kim C. Even though I have been saying that this thing is scewed (?), I didn't think anyone could get past a performance as bad as Carmens. Even her family looked shocked. I guess the voting is based on peoples preconceptions over the last few months and they will forgive one off night (see Josh last week). Well she has now had her free pass and unless she really picks it up next week, she's a gonner. Simon was right, it is anyones competition now. I think voters have already put the contestents into one of 3 categories; Idol (Clay, Ruben), Okay but not great (Kim C, Kim L, Josh, Carmen, Trenyce), and Lousy (the rest of them). The groups are voted off as a pack. The order within the group is based on personality. That's why Kim C went before Carmen. A bad night will not lower your standing, but a great night will raise you up. I think Kim L is now in the Idol group after this week. But she'll have to retain her standing. Does anyone think that Clay lurks around here? Last week someone was complaining about his theatrics during the elimination show (mouthed thank you's and hiding his head). He didn't do any of that last night. So Clay, if you're here, HI, and what is the real deal with you and Carmen? You can tell us. Last, (I know I've gone on and on), were they lip-synching (?) "Proud to be an American"? All I could hear was the background singers. The only time it seemed like someone was singing was Josh's opening. Even the croud noise was piped in after the camera switched to the audience. I think I've said enough... |
Skypilot | Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 06:45 am     I've really enjoyed Ryan Seacrest this year but I thought it was horrible for him to ask Carmen and Kim what they thought would "happen next" when the elimination got down to just the two of them. What on earth would he expect someone to say in that situation? I'm sure neither one wanted to be the one voted off but at the same time neither would want to point to the other and say,"I think she's going home". It was a horrible question to ask. |
Wcv63 | Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 07:14 am     Hobbes, the contestents are sequestered and don't really have access to the boards, however, they do talk to their friends and family by phone and my guess is that they get "pointers" and tips from them. I still like Clay the best...and think that his protective attitude toward Carmen is endearing. I really thought Carmen was going to go last night. I did pick the bottom 3 correctly. |
Grooch | Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 07:17 am     Wcv, I read in a Rickey interview that there is a computer at their house they are sharing and they do get to check some boards out. |
Pantageas | Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 07:19 am     Agreed Skypilot. Seacrest thinks he's witty/entertaining, but that was a REALLY tacky question. I wish one of the girls had dropped her jaw and said "How can you ask us a question like that?". P.S. - Carmen is the 'Debbil'! |
Wcv63 | Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 07:54 am     Ahh Grooch..thanks, I didn't know that. Last year they were kept away because of the vitriol. |
Hobbs | Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 08:07 am     The reason I said that about Clay is that I thought I saw a picture or a video with him sitting at a computer in the mansion. Also I was being sarcastic...well, sort of. |
Jeep | Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 08:13 am     Not that I'm a Ryan fan, but last night when he asked "what do you think will happen next" my first reaction was "of course a commercial"! I don't think he was intentionally being rude, just not thinking how it sounded. |
Hobbs | Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 08:21 am     I thought that's what he was going for too, Jeep. |
Skypilot | Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 08:44 am     Jeep, That probably would explain it. Otherwise, I would have thought that Ryan was going out of his mind. On another note, what is it about Trenyce that so many people have a problem with? Is it the "diva" thing? I can understand if that is what it is because I remember way earlier in the show a couple diva wannabes were eliminated, so I can understand if people want to see the last of the wannabes go. Some people have a problem with the way she holds the microphone and "flaps" her fingers but that doesn't bother me at all. I actually don't want to see her voted off anytime soon because I think that she can really sing but I will say that the one thing about her that bothers me somewhat is that she seems to vamp it up a little too much sometimes when she performs. Does this factor into why some of you don't like her? I've noticed that some of her detractors can't quite put their finger on what it is about her that they don't like. |
Laura11103 | Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 08:53 am     I haven't read this whole thread but I was wondering when they did that AT&T poll but didn't actually have a question, was that a mistake? Randy was saying "what's the question", things seemed a little weird there. I can't for the life of me figure out how Carmen is still there, I can't believe we're gonna have to suffer through another one of her songs next week. I agree with Fruitbat that she handles criticism very well, I was very impressed with her after being scraped over the coals from Simon, I know I'd be in tears, but I guess that's what it's all about... |
Denecee | Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 08:59 am     Well my theory about the first of the bottom three out on stage is safe was shot to heck last night. I have to say I was very surprised that Kim C went before Carmen. I like Carmen as much as I liked Kim C or any of them for that matter, and only one can win. |
Hermione69 | Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 09:41 am     They do have a computer in the house, they actually have two. It was in a People magazine article. They use it to check out fan sites and message boards. So it is entirely possible that Clay and others are noting what people are saying on the 'net. So Clay, honey, if you are reading this, will you marry me? |
Wargod | Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 09:46 am     LOL, Herm. |
Hermione69 | Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 09:48 am     BTW, Skypilot, I like Trenyce. I don't even notice the flapping fingers either, LOL! She does seem to have a touch of Diva in her, but I think she has a lot of talent and she lights up the stage. |
Hermione69 | Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 09:48 am     Wargod, I am nothing but pathetic, aren't I?? LOL! |
Cassie | Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 10:03 am     <<I'm REALLY sick of Paula.>> Me too, Seamonkey. I liked her before AI but she's too gushy, insincere and over the top on this show. I think the whole show is bogus this time around. Josh can't sing--he always sounds awful to me, yet he's never been voted into the bottom 3. What's up with that picture? |
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