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Jasper

Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 10:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Re Trenyce, I like her as well and have enjoyed most of her performances.

Perhaps her reservation with the others is just that, perhaps she is shy in one on ones with other people. And maybe that has kinda of made her feel an outsider amongst the others. Who knows.

As well I'd rather see her reserved than gushing all over like Kim C. The I love yous and huggy kisses always seems phony to me.

Djgirl5235

Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 11:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Did anyone else notice that the camera was on Paula when they announced that Kim C was in the bottom three and she remarked (with a very shocked look on her face) What? That's not right!

Does that woman even have a clue????

Hobbs

Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 11:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I saw it too Deej. But are you surprised? In Paula's eyes everyone should win. They're all great.
barf

Realfan

Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 12:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
YAY!! Sorry, I'm being catty, but I was glad to see Kim C. go last night. I was so tired of her. While I agree Carmen sang worse, I think we've seen now that Kim C. has sung as well as she can--and it's not good enough. She has had years of training. This is her peak. When Simon said he was surprised that she hadn't improved, I was a little surprised he didn't take Kim's performance and pageant background into account. Maybe he doesn't think it's relevant, but I did as a viewer.

Hobbs has it right about the categories, and the order within the categories being based on personality. After all of Kim's showy crying for past contestants, I didn't see any tears last night. Don't know what to make of that.

I'm sick of Paula fretting about who is in the final 3. There are only seven contestants, so it's almost a 50-50 chance any of them could be standing there! As Denecee says, only one can win. I don't think it's a big deal whether these folks leave at 7th, 6th or 5th or 4th, for that matter. The top 3 did get a little more attention last year, so that's something of a goal. And final 2 of course is best!

Fruitbat

Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 12:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Pantageas, you are hysterical. "Carmen is the Debbil" Just love it.

Wiseolowl

Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 01:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Last night's show along with the other voting result shows is a tribute to one of the 20th centuries greatest inventions - the remote channel flicker

These "result shows " have to rank among the worst and most insulting to viewer audiences.

Last night , the choice was - do you watch American Idol or the 70's Show - usually when you channel flick the commercials are timed to coincide - not American Idol - we were able to watch virtually all of the 70's show and not miss much of Idol . The planned and pregnant pauses of Seacrest to stretch this show to an half hour was pathetic and insulting. I just hope that polling firms are sophisticated enough to discover that most viewers just turned off the 75% of this show which was just fluff and commercials .

Hobbs

Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 01:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm confused Wise. On the east coast "That 70's Show" was on Fox from 8-8:30pm followed by "American Idol" from 8:30 to 9:00. I couldn't switch between them if I wanted to.

Wiseolowl

Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 01:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hobbs - live here in Canada - was visiting my son and fiance last night when watching -they controlled the remote - it must have been on Canadian channels . In fact it was sort of a 70's show marathon - probably leading up to a new season or something

Brenda1966

Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 02:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd pick that 70's Show over the Idol reveal anyday! LOL! But luckily they're on one after the other here.

I'm glad Kim C was gone. I completely agree with Realfan that Kim C has had all this experience and really can't seem to improve. Whereas Carmen is fresh and new and has loads of room to improve. This experience will benefit someone like Carmen much more than Kim C. The exposure will benefit Kim C and she's had enough exposure so "bye-bye".

I did see Kim C crying. She was turning her back to the audience and trying to hide the tears but they were there. I think the week she bawled her head off was a surprise and she had time to prepare for this.

Denecee

Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 03:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I missed that 70's show last night!

Sadiesmom

Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 03:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
To chime in on Trenyce, I had a black friend who tended to be stand offish (we probably got along because many people think I am cold as well because I am not a kisser/hugger person). Anyway, she said that she got this way because she did not fit in with other races allthat well because they came from different backgrounds and experiences. Add to that her brush with the law and who knows what she sees in her competitors.

I don't always see some behavior as diva, but s reserved, outsider, concentrated, etc. Could be anything. Since I am not there, I can't really say. I never feelI know what someone is really like, except on big brother where they are 24/7. lol

Demeter

Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 03:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, it's always nice to give a person any credit due them. I think I remember thought that Trenyce could not keep a room mate in the house, she'd already been through them. Does anyone else remember reading or hearing that anywhere?

IF that is the case, maybe she IS going for the Diva attitude and it has nothing to due with race as postulated by Sadiesmom, because there certainly is a mix of races on this show.

Whoami

Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 03:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Finally watched last night's tape. FWIW, taping the results show and watching later is much more enjoyable when you can FF through Ryan's BS.

I don't think Ryan was refering to the upcoming commercial, when he said, "what do you think is going to happen next?" From reading comments here, that was my first thought as well. However, in watching the tape, I heard him follow up that question with, "who do you think it's going to be?"

I think Ryan may have been in a snarky mood last night. After the first group number, he say's "one of those microphones up there will be gathering dust next week..." Pretty rude, and rubbing it in. Not neccessary.

Ryan also said something like "I don't care what you think." I think he was refering to Simon? I know they take jabs at each other in fun. But the tone in his voice (to me anyway) was clearly a "F you type of thing."

Trenyce did in fact hug the other two when she was called down to the bottom three. In fact, I failed to notice any of the stand-offishness mentioned here.

Rueben's 205 shirt was the best of his 205 collection last night. It carried his desired 205 theme, but didn't look like a tired old jeresy. Though I wish he'd have sewn the flag on a bit better. It looked like it was coming loose.

Alisons

Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 04:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I checked out the AOL poll, and noticed that Trenyce is now in "last place." It is deceptive though, because you can only vote for your favorite once - you can't go through and vote for everyone you would phone in a vote to. So if you have two that you really like, you can't really reflect that.

Beachcomber88

Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 05:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've wondered about the contestants lurking around here also. I didn't think they were totally sequestered either, so I think they must be reading these or hearing about it through their family.

And apparently it's working - Ruben's not wearing 205 all the time. Clay didn't mouth thank you's (although I think Simon was right on with his comment about the theatrics). But then perhaps it's not - Trenyce still finger flaps. Carmen still hip slaps. And Josh still dresses like the bore that he is.

As far as Ryan goes, I'm used to hearing him on his radio show here in Southern Cal, so his behavior is pretty typical and not that unexpected. However, I'm getting tired of the "I'm gay" act and the sexual innuendos between him and Simon. He either (1) is gay - which I don't think so or (2) has been told that pretending to be gay brings laughs. Either way, it's getting old and needs to stop.

Seamonkey

Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 05:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I did hear something this morning about GLAAD complaining about the comments; haven't found an online citation as yet.. heard just part of it on Fox channel this morning (not Fox news)