Archive through October 02, 2002
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Archive through October 02, 2002
Pamy | Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 12:00 pm     The clue is either Orange or Blood....on the Pushtimes site they have a survey in the lower corner it asks something like what was the worst truck spill in town history, the the first 2 choices are the first 2 clues(tv & 1,045,000) the last choice is blood oranges |
Pamy | Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 11:18 am     Herm?? What do ya think? Hope you are feeling better |
Hermione69 | Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 03:12 pm     That was really observant of you to pick up on the survey, Pamy. I hadn't paid much attention to it and didn't realize it had changed. GOOD JOB! There has been a debate on the Push Times message boards also as to whether it is red or orange as the final clue. People seem pretty evenly split. I still think that The Color Of... means the Color of the Blood Oranges, which is red... I mean, they have to be alluding to the color of something, don't you think? And it seems pretty apparent that what they are alluding to are the oranges, right? And this particular type of orange is red inside. Sometimes I think I am reading too much into it!!! I haven't rewatched the episode yet. Still felt pretty fuzzy until I woke up this morning and I have been watching football all day. As soon as I watch it again with a clearer head, I'll post my thoughts. On the message boards I mentioned above, the board is supposedly created by people at the show posing as residents of Push. Viewers can post also, and of course that results in a lot of junk to weed through. Still, every once in awhile I came across something that made me think. There is this one poster named Rhea whose username is slomnsdncr who seems pretty authentic. If you have a chance, you should go over there and look for her posts. See if anything strikes a chord. Go to pushtimes and click on the message board link to get to the board I am talking about. BTW, never been an Alias watcher. Sounds really good, but the couple of times I tried it, I was missing too much of the storyline to get into it. |
Hermione69 | Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 03:32 pm     Anybody else want to weigh in on this red versus orange debate re: episode 3's clue? DON'T BE SHY!! |
Babyruth | Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 04:56 pm     Geez, you guys are making my head spin! I missed the first ten minutes of the show and do not visit the website for clues and such. I wish I had the time to join in that fun. I just love the writing, acting and directing so far, and the quirky storyline is fun. Definitely reminiscent of Twin Peaks in its gentler mode. I have no idea what the blood and orange stuff is you are all talking about. I must be blind or lazy. Did that happen in the first ten minutes? Again, I'm not really playing the clue game but now you're getting me curious. It was hard not to make note of the repeated close up of the truck tire, "Goodyear"...did something happen in the first ten minutes that explains him flashing on that so many times? I loved the name of the hired assassin, "Wilkes Oswald", and have noted some biblical references as you have. I, too, wondered if the fact that nobody had any tax returns on file for 17 years meant that maybe they are "living dead" or something. Also it was interesting to note that the wacky motel owner knew Jim's Dad and still had his monogrammed hanky. |
Hermione69 | Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 05:30 pm     Hi Babyruth! My head is spinning right along with yours. TOO MUCH INFORMATION! Every episode yields one weekly clue except for the last episode which will yield two. You can solve the clues by watching the show and/or sleuthing online at sites related to the show, especially at www.pushtimes.com. Check out ABC's web site for more information. Basically, the orange/red/blood debate is this.... the title of this episode is "The Color Of" which will most likely have something to do with the clue. The title of the first two episodes tied in directly to the clue, so we assume this trend will continue to a degree. In episode three, there are repeat references to oranges, both the color and the fruit, and if you go to www.pushtimes.com, you'll see a huge article on a truck that overturned carrying a type of orange called blood oranges. 99.99% of the devout followers of the show have concluded the blood oranges have something to do with the clue, but there is a parting of ways when it comes to exactly what. Some think the clue is simply "orange" or "oranges" or even "blood oranges." Others think the title "The Color Of" means the color of the blood oranges, which is presumed to be reddish or red. In which case, the clue is "red" or maybe "blood." The Goodyear tire has something to do with Jim's dad, I think. It was shown during a flashback. But it was never clear why. Some more skeptical folks think it was just a product placement and therefore meaningless. Others speculate that "Goodyear" means something. That was a good observation on the handkerchief and Martha. Some think she may be Jim's mother or stepmother. My first thought was she had a hot fling with his dad. I was rather out of it when I watched the show on Thursday (sinus infection) and still have not rewatched it now that my head is clearer. There is a lot that other people picked up on that I want to check out for myself. My brother's theory is a government mind control experiment. While I like the hell analogy, I think the mind control makes more sense than the living dead or a space/time continuum theory. If they are the living dead, then why are some of them dying? Maybe they don't file taxes and their household income is so high because they don't want anyone to leave or it will ruin the experiment. I'm pretty open-minded, though, and can see the story going in many different directions. |
Pamy | Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 06:11 pm     Herm..when you re watch the episode see what color the title appears on your screen, mine looks orange, but ya know how different tv's show color slightly different, see if the color looks true orange or a redish orange..if it is true orange then I am going with orange as the clue, if it appears differently to you, well then my head will explode and this is only the 3rd week!!! |
Konamouse | Monday, September 30, 2002 - 06:45 am     IMHO: It has been said, in the official rules from ABC, that all of the necessary info to solve for the clues are available via the TV show - the internet info is "extra". In other words, you DON'T have to have internet access to win the prize. Therefore, the final answer must be "orange", not "blood orange" since the only place the blood orange was mentioned would be the pushtimes article. Another support for "living dead" idea would be Jim's new tattoo "Death & Taxes". |
Babyruth | Monday, September 30, 2002 - 07:43 am     OOH! That just made me think of when they were trying to "cremate" the ice-cold man (forgot his name already!), but he wouldn't burn. A Spanish-speaking man looked at him and told a tale of those whose spirits can't let go... |
Pamy | Monday, September 30, 2002 - 09:01 am     Good thinking Kona!!! Babyruth just reminded me that the spanish man said a word that was not translated at bottom of screen and that word was narajas(sp?) which is orange in spanish! ORANGE it is!! |
Whowhere | Monday, September 30, 2002 - 09:05 am     according to dmvf.com which was has been posted during the shows it says, "Watch the TV Episodes AND explore the Push-related websites to collect each episode's CLUE to find out how to locate the money." hmmmmmmm.....sounds like a combination of the two |
Pamy | Monday, September 30, 2002 - 12:42 pm     Who..they could mean people could check websites if they couldn't figure it out on their own. I am going to abc.com and read the official rules again but I think Kona is right. Only a few of us are posting here, I know there are more lurking..come out and play!!!!! |
Pamy | Monday, September 30, 2002 - 12:58 pm     I read the rules at abc.com, it appears that hints to the clue can/will be on the internet or can be in other media(commercials, ads for the show, etc) but it says you can guess the clue by just watching the tv show. Also the final episode will have 2 clues |
Pamy | Monday, September 30, 2002 - 08:06 pm     push...figured I would push instead of bump in this thread!
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Yankee_In_Ca | Monday, September 30, 2002 - 08:46 pm     Potentially bad news -- ABC is already considering cancelling Push, Nevada. It's on a story on nytimes.com (you have to register to read it). I'll provide the link and an excerpt from the article: Click Here ABC's Early Hopes Don't Last a Week By BILL CARTER The ratings for television's premiere week provoked grins and worry lines in about equal numbers for network programmers. But the number of facial contortions were greatest at ABC, where early promise ran headlong into late-week disaster. Two comedies — "8 Simple Rules for Dating My Teenage Daughter" on Tuesday and "My Wife and Kids" on Wednesday — gave strong initial indications that ABC might be reversing its bad ratings karma. Yet on Thursday night the network's most talked-about new drama, "Push, Nevada," came as close as a network show can come to ratings invisibility. "Push" was seen by just 4.4 million people, and it scored a minuscule 1.3 rating in the 18-to-49-year-old audience ABC most desires. Already ABC executives are talking about pulling the show. "We're taking a hard look at it," said Lloyd Braun, the chairman of ABC Entertainment. "We were ready to live with a small but growing audience. But one thing we can't have is one night pulling down our whole week." In most circumstances, cancellation would be all but automatic for a show with the numbers "Push" drew. But "Push" incorporates an audience game promising to give away more than $1 million. The show's producers said last summer that even if it were canceled they would still give away the money. (article continues...) |
Pamy | Monday, September 30, 2002 - 09:30 pm     ABC is full of idiots! What did they think would happen in that time slot? They could put a show with hot naked woman fighting in mud while a football game was going on and still would not have had good ratings!I hope they move the show to another night instead of cancelling it. Thanks for the article Yankee! |
Pottedplant | Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 12:14 pm     I am so mad at ABC.......I do not see how they can cancel the show when they are going to have a prize?? Just move it to some other night, MORONS! |
Hermione69 | Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 12:42 pm     It actually occurred to me that Affleck and company may have wanted an obscure time slot. I can see them being a little intellectually snobby and wanting to prevent the masses from calling in with stupid answers, but if that was the case, the network should have been prepared for the low numbers. I will be very disappointed if ABC does not let this play out to its finale. I wonder if there is an online petition or something we could sign? |
Pamy | Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 01:03 pm     Well they said they would still give away the money if the show got cancelled, so hopefully they will move it. Seems like a waste to just cancel since they all ready have all 13 episodes in the can. Can't we email ABC from their site? |
Hermione69 | Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 01:13 pm     It does seem like a waste and I agree that they should try it on another night at this point, before it is too late into the show to snag new viewers. I'll check ABC's website at home tonight. (I'm at work, getting ready to leave for the day. SLACKER!!) |
Pottedplant | Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 05:41 pm     I emailed them (ABC) last week, complaining about the time slot. So far, no response & yes, I was polite I would be interested if anybody else gets a response. I know they have said that they will give the prize away anyhow, but frankly, I still don't understand how you can do that without compromising the "game". |
Pamy | Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 06:02 pm     I emailed ABC here is their email link{netaudr@abc.com} |
Yankee_In_Ca | Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 10:34 am     Here's another news clip, from Newsday: FLASH! Will 'Push' Come to Shove? Verne Gay October 1, 2002 The best new show no one's watching - ABC's "Push, Nevada" - earned a one-week reprieve yesterday before the network decides what to do with the heavily promoted, lightly viewed series produced by Ben Affleck. The network confirmed that a few options besides outright cancellation are under consideration. One of those includes "repurposing" - or re-airing - the show on sister cable channel ABC Family, or perhaps moving the show to cable. "Push," about an IRS agent who's trying to solve a series of odd occurrences (and murders) in a small town, has been considered a vital show for ABC, in a near-desperate fight to bring back viewers to prime time. Besides the production tie with Affleck, "Push" has been ABC's poster show to prove that the network can still develop quality programs that aren't assembly-line sitcoms or standard-issue cop dramas. But "Push" (just 4.4 million viewers on Thursday) was crushed by a record-breaking "CSI" (31 million). Kevin Brockman, ABC's senior vice president of communications, said yesterday the network is looking at "a lot" of options. "No one is running around panicking, but obviously it's not what we wanted to see last week." Copyright © 2002, Newsday, Inc. |
Wargod | Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 10:38 am     Nooo....I love this show! Change it to cable, put it on a different night...something! I do have to say though that airing it opposite the #1 TV show right now (CSI) was not the smartest thing to do....but still, its a great show, don't take it away! |
Yankee_In_Ca | Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 10:43 am     OK, hate to continually be the bearer of (potentially) bad news, but I keep running across these as I'm working this morning. Here's another: http://www.nypost.com/entertainment/58626.htm ‘PUSH, NEV.' HAS $1-MIL DILEMMA By DON KAPLAN October 2, 2002 -- THE idea was to offer viewers the chance to win $1 million for watching all 13 episodes of the quirky new ABC whodunit "Push, Nevada." Now the network and the series' producers - who include movie-star Ben Affleck - have a problem. What happens if "Push, Nevada" is cancelled before they have a chance to give away the $1 million? From the start, "Push" was at a disadvantage. It was scheduled opposite "Friends" and "Survivor: Thailand," two of the biggest shows on television. Last week's episode was seen by only 4.4 million viewers - good for a cable TV show but far below what a big network series is expected to reach. Worse, the audience seems to be diminishing more each week - and cancellation is more than a theoretical possibility. ABC execs huddled in meetings this week to decide the show's fate, an industry source told The Post. Several ideas were kicked around, said the source: "Do you continue the game, maybe put it on hiatus and bring it back at a later date? "Do you re-purpose it on ABC Family and let it play out there? "Do you work out somehow where you put in a master clue in the last episode that airs that will let people figure it out." Last summer Affleck told TV critics he already had an exit plan in mind if the show started getting creamed by the competition. "If we get buried under an avalanche of ‘CSI' and ‘Will & Grace,' we will stuff a bunch of clues in the last episode. We have confidence we'll be able to maintain the integrity and secrecy of the puzzle," he said. "If we don't, we'll have egg on our faces." A studio source noted that producers would probably need only a week's notice to whip into shape what would become the show's final episode. An ABC spokesman said no decisions have been made yet. "Last week was obviously not going to be ABC's night, we understood that going into it," ABC's Kevin Brockman said. "We were up against the premieres of some of the most popular shows on network television [including ‘Friends']. Therefore we'll wait and see how the landscape plays out this week." The show follows an IRS investigator (played by Derek Cecil) trying to find out what's going on in a corrupt desert town called Push, Nevada. Someone has been embezzling millions from the local casino and just about everyone on the show is trying to find out where the cash is being stashed. That's the basis of the unusual viewer contest that was meant to boost ratings - but so far as come up a bust. |
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