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Hotlantan

Friday, June 21, 2002 - 10:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Nope. Jimmy-Pop is definitely Jim Verraros.

Numerous classmates and people from his hometown have come onto the official AI message boards to verify many little known details about the school and town from the journal. And people on the LiveJournal community confirm that they were reading his near daily journal updates for months before anyone ever heard of the TV show.

Let that be a lesson - never publicly post your innermost daily thoughts on the WWW if you don't want to be exposed later as a manipulative queen. He trashes everybody: classmates, teachers, ex-boyfriends, his hometown - and repeatedly dogs out Paula Abdul, who has been his only supporter amongst the judges.

Thankfully, I saved the entire html code before Jim got back home from LA last night and started covering his tracks. The three files are 163k - email (this weekend only) for a copy. hotlantan@yahoo.com

Ketchuplover

Friday, June 21, 2002 - 03:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
MAX-apparently you & I were watching different shows. Rodesia (day dream believer) was awful & the judges thought so too.

ps. You don't owe me $1,000,000.00 :)

Muse

Friday, June 21, 2002 - 06:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yep, that was definitely Jim's journal. I know someone who knows him (so he's a friend of an acquaintance, I suppose?), and she provided me with the link. Unfortunately, I wasn't impressed with what he had to say there, and I don't think he's all that talented, either. So I've just avoided saying anything when she talks about how wonderful he is. :)

I don't believe Jim got *that* many anti-Simon votes. Maybe a few, but I don't believe that's the major factor in him becoming a finalist. Instead, there's a whole lot of posts online about how he's adorable (in that dorky sort of way), and about his parents and the weight issue. Mainly the adorable thing, though. lol - Jim also seems to have a lot of the teenybopper crowd on his side, too ("i luv him!!! Jim u rock!"). Although not all of his fans are like that, obviously. Many are very normal. And over the age of 13, too.

If Simon insulting a semi-finalist really made an impact, I think Brad would've been discussed more than he was. Like Jim, only Paula seemed to like him. And Simon was harsh on other people, too - Kelli, Natalie, Rodesia, etc. But they didn't have tons of people posting in their forums on the official AI boards like Jim did.

Pamy

Saturday, June 22, 2002 - 11:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I missed Wed's show can someone tell me who the 3 fianlists are? Also on this Tue's show do they have another set of 10 that gets down to 3?
I really liked the one that sounded like Whitney and the one that looks like Mariah, can't believe she is only 18 yrs old! I also liked the young guy that flirted with Paula

Buttercup

Saturday, June 22, 2002 - 01:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tamyra was number one, then Ryan, and then Jim.

I think it was Kellie who did the Whitney song. In my opinion she was a very sore loser as she was crying and pushed people away who was trying to console her.

If I was to guess who the judges might pick as a wild card from this group--I think they might pick Adriel. Personally, I would like to see Chris picked, but I think Adriel has more of the popstar look they are looking for in addition to talent.

Buttercup

Seamonkey

Saturday, June 22, 2002 - 07:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow.. I finally watched my tape.. didn't even realize there was the second night.. brain dead.

I'm SO happy that Ryan was picked.. I thought she has a great sassy/adorable quality and I liked that she didn't choose something sappy to sing. Someone can always help her with style.

I liked Chris very much (hope for wild card). Real talent there, and again, great quality.

Tamyra was good too, a little overblown but good.

Jim was disappointing and his persona's not that good .. he doesn't engage the audience. (well obviously he engaged the voters)

Adriel.. I didn't think he was great and I can't get beyond stringy/greasy hair in anyone.. not even Tom Cruise. Ad isn't Tom. But he was definitely not one of the bottom dwellers singing wise.

Rosedia was awful.

Natalie wasn't as bad as they made her out to be and so what if Crazy isn't a new song? Neither is When I Fall in Love, or I Will Always Love You or Daydream Believer

Brad.. not memorable, so no comment.

Justin.. yes singing and outfit were a mismatch

Kelli.. kind of a mean type (and I didn't see the second night) and Kelli, sweetie.. Whitney took that song and made an overblown showcase out of it.. I much prefer it as the sweet but powerful song as WRITTEN and sung by Dolly Parton, who has the voice of an angel. So.. Whitney didn't set the standard for that song. (not that Dolly complained.. she went to the bank when she made it #1 and again with Whitney's version) Not to mention that Kelli sounded like a rusty water pipe at those times when she ran out of breath.

My picks would have been Ryan, then Chris, then
Tamyra.

Next week I WILL remember about the second show and maybe even watch the first one in time to vote.

Avrey258

Sunday, June 23, 2002 - 03:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dying to know if anyone knows the answer to this question???

I taped the first episode of American Idol, the one where they went from town to town. I was rewatching it today and I was wondering why Ryan Star was named Tiffany on the first show? She also had a different last name on the first show.

At first I thought it was another girl who just looked like Ryan, so I showed my daughter the tape (we have both watched and recorded all three) and she said yes, that it was definitely Ryan, the one who was chosen as part of the final ten in the third episode. And even all the judges referred to her as Tiffany at the first audition.

Could she have come up with a stage name from the first to second show?

Hotlantan

Sunday, June 23, 2002 - 03:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ryan Starr's real name is Tiffany Montgomery. Perhaps the editors and producers just decided to go along with her stage name once it became known that she would make the top 30 and continue onto the main show.

Similarly, one of the contestants for next week is named Jamar Simmons. On the first two episodes and even on the website they were showing his full name. The suddenly as of last Wednesday, he began only going by the single name Jamar. What's THAT about?

Discoinferno

Sunday, June 23, 2002 - 05:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
THANK YOU Avrey..... I was coming here to post the question you asked!!! I was really puzzled!

Pamy

Sunday, June 23, 2002 - 05:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Buttercup! I can't believe Jim made it, he sucked!! That quivering lip thing has got to go!!!
The one I really liked(the one that looks like Mariah and sang old country song) didn't make it and he did???!! All I can say is he must have LOTS of friends with phones!!!!

Flowergirl

Sunday, June 23, 2002 - 07:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Avrey258, would you be willing to sell me a copy of the tape you made of the first show?

Avrey258

Sunday, June 23, 2002 - 08:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Flowergirl,

Yes, I will make a copy for you. I'll have my son do it on Tuesday, his day off. You don't want me doing it. Don't worry about the cost, I have plenty of spare tapes. Just cover the shipping and that will be fine. I swear, that is one tape I can watch again and again. You can email me at smallone65@webtv.net
Avrey258

Emjaycue

Monday, June 24, 2002 - 05:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Media W**** : American Idol

For those of you that have played surviiival, the amaziiing game, and Media W****: Mole at realiiity.com (I've noticed TVCH has one of the bigger leagues for those games)... there is a similar game for American Idol now at realiiity.com in addition to the mole games.

:c)

(Mods: I looked and looked for a "links" topic for these less popular shows like you have in your Survivor, Big Brother, & Mole forums but I couldn't find one. My apologies if this is in the wrong place. :c) Feel free to nuke it)

--M

Buttercup

Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 05:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
From CNN online this morning:

'American Idol': Starr search

By Jessica Shaw
Entertainment Weekly

(Entertainment Weekly) --No matter what happens for the rest of Fox's ''American Idol'' run, there was one moment from Wednesday night's episode that made the entire series unforgettable: the shot of Kelli Grover's hair covering her weepy, sorrowful face when she didn't get chosen to be one of the three finalists.

After her ''I-eeee-I-eeee-I'' performance yesterday, I had nightmares that she was going to advance to the next round. The judges seemed to like Ms. Flat Abs even though she sang 90 percent of the song like she'd just gotten over a two-week cold. Small note to Kelli should she ever audition using that song again: Dolly Parton sang the original, not Whitney Houston, so if you're gonna give props, don't forget the woman who started it all.

But back to Kelli's heartbreak. How is it that six other semifinalists could wipe away their tears and smile long enough for the live cameras to go off but Kelli could not manage to get out of her seat? The final shot of someone practically getting slapped after trying to console her was priceless.

The winners
Okay, before the Kelli fan club comes after me, let's move on to the winners. Tamyra: LOVE her. She somehow made the Solid Gold floor and ''...in a galaxy far, far away...'' background from Tuesday night look like Fox spent more than $3.49 on the show's budget. Too bad her boyfriend Chris didn't make it. I never thought his voice was all that great, and the whole ''I'm a cool guy'' thing was tired after about three seconds, but I loved the whole ''Real World''-esque romantic tension between him and Tamyra.

Oh, well. At least Chris won't have any competition in the Cupid department with Jim Verraros. I can't decide whether I love him or loathe him. After that first audition, I was walking around doing sign language for kisses to anyone who would stand still long enough. But all of a sudden, Mr. My-Parents-Are-Deaf became as annoying and dispensable as one of those virginal boy-band boys who came and went two seasons ago.

Plus, he had a sort of Elvis snarl going on and he didn't have enough (read: any) sex appeal to pull that off. The guy's going nowhere, but you can't begrudge him a spot in the finals. Then again, he did say ''1-800-ABCDEFG. Go back to school'' in response to some criticism on national television. I demand a vote recount!

What kind of name is Ryan Starr?
And finally, what is there to stay about the tragically dressed Ryan Starr? Does she think she's fooling anyone with that name? And what was up with the Ace bandage on her wrist? Her Halle Berry-esque acceptance got on my nerves, but you have to admit her voice was clearly better than much of the competition (even though I still have no idea what the heck she wants on the side).

How are we ever supposed to wait six more days until a whole new episode? Can we go almost a week without a pearl of wisdom from Simon or a heinous fashion ensemble from Paula Abdul? One word: Justin. Tamyra's got talent, Jim is compellingly annoying, and Ryan is always a fascinating-to-watch fashion faux pas, but when it comes to pop stardom, it's all about that curly-haired blond guy with a voice from the heavens. When that number comes up, my phone is going on redial. Carpal tunnel is a small price to pay to watch him for a few more weeks.

Find this article at:
http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/20/ew.tv.idol/index.html

Buttercup

Seamonkey

Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 09:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well good for someone beside me knowing that Dolly Parton wrote the song AND made it a hit, twice, before Whitney..

Max

Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 09:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I knew, Sea! :)

Theowl

Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 11:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I knew, too, but didn't think any one cared. I like DP singing it better. Just MY opinion!!

Jenhavins

Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 06:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
okay...i liked the I will survive girl and Justin...i missed most of the rest. Does anyone have a recap?

Jenhavins

Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 07:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
oops...I meant the A Little Respect girl...not the I will survive.

Ketchuplover

Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 07:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I liked the R E S P E C T girl too. Also Tenia.

Nobody else really stood out. Overall i liked last weeks group better.

Luvmom

Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 07:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
For once,I have to disagree with you Ketchup.
I wasn't impressed with Tenia at all.I adored A.J.
I don't care what Simon or the others thought of him.He took a song from O-Town and made it his own.I liked Justin and I liked Angela.The rest just didn't appeal to me.To bad I live in Canada.That means I don't get to call in.

Kady

Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 07:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
A.J. has the look of boy band written all over him. I was not very impressed with him tonight although I think he will move on. I know Justin will move on. My guess for third is Kelly (Respect Girl). The others performances just didn't stand out at all.

Muse

Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 08:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am almost positive Kelly is going on. And I'd guess Alexis and Justin for the other places. For an alternate, I'd say Angela. I liked all four (although I'm not a fan of Angela's look...I could do without the nosering, lipgloss, and various accessories), so I'm happy with whatever three that get selected. :)

I don't think Tenia succeeded in changing her look. Or she didn't really look "classy", IMHO. She just tried on another Barbie outfit. Complete with the big earrings. But at least she was better than Alex, who was just *bad*.

A.J. was good, but more boy band type. Gil was fine as well, but went a bit flat at times. AND he had the misfortune to do the same song as Justin. I also liked Jazmin quite a bit, but her nerves affected the beginning of her performance. Jamar had a great personality, but his singing was weak.

Overall a stronger group than last week, I thought.

Webkitty

Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 08:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought last weeks group was better.

I guess I would have to give Angela first, then A.J., then Alexis.

I couldn't stand Justin! What a goop. He will probably move on though. I also thought the "respect" girl, Kelly Clarkson was pitiful. JMO

Wcv63

Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 09:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I liked Justin, Kelly Clarkson (respect girl) and AJ. I actually took every performance they have done thus far into account in making this choice.

I have a bit of a prejudice against Angela Peel, Tenia and Alexandra I must admit. All three were on both Popstars and didn't make the cut for one reason or another. Mostly because they didn't want to do the WORK necessary to succeed. Therefore, I have decided that they need to give somebody else a chance.