Music behind Bars....New Reality Show
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Retired | Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 06:32 am     Didn't know where to post this so hope this is the right place. Arnie is the producer of this show. http://www.abcnews.go.com/wire/Entertainment/ap20021019_140.html |
Seamonkey | Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 11:21 am     Didn't know that Arnie was involved with this mockery but somehow I'm not surprised. I think any money made from this by VH1 should go to the victims of these "musicians". |
Twinkie | Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 04:53 pm     I'm appalled. Prison is supposed to be punishment. Not recreation. If i saw the killer of my child having fun and getting some limelight i'd want to go after him with my bare hands. |
Scorpiomoon | Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 06:13 pm     This just makes me sick. This show is "...intended to be a serious effort to highlight music's role in rehabilitation." WTF? Then why is it on VH1--clearly an entertainment, not educational, channel such as PBS? Sure, I can see, maybe, giving a few inmates aucustic guitars or something just as simplicitc. But enough gear to furnish a band? PLEASE! I think it's a slap in the face to the victims' families. It's disgusting. Is this Arnie's attempt at doing something cutting edge, or does just have some sort of sick, ongoing fascination with prison life? |
Kristylovesbb | Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 07:45 pm     Bill O'Rielly, of Fox News No Spin Zone, has spoken out on this several nights this week. He asked everyone that is outraged over this to make their voices heard by e-mailing Arnold, VH1, and the sponser via-com. He contacted all of the above with his complaint and was told they did not care! Mr. Shapiro and all others involved should be ashamed! There are more than enough good people in this world to shine the light on instead of the monsters in prison that commit murder! |
Bastable | Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 09:19 pm     Arnold Shapiro is a h-o-o-o-o-r! |
Lurknomore | Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 09:54 pm     Arnie Arnie Arnie...such a class act. No wonder he does such a great job of casting his BB's. It literally is a miracle that Jason got on this show. |
Billhere | Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 10:45 pm     Calm down folks. Arnie is just recruiting HGs for BB4. Seriously, Arnie needs to go to the DR and get counseling from the shrink. This is sick. |
Crossfire | Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 10:51 pm     Somehow, given the number of people Arnie manages to recruit with a prior history of legal troubles, this does not completely surprise me. |
Kristylovesbb | Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 03:07 pm     Arnold Shapiro, the show's executive producer, disagrees. He thinks the it illustrates "the horrors" of prison life. "I hope we haven't all become so jaded that seeing someone living in a 6-by-9 foot cement cell, even if they do have a television and a radio, is a positive thing," he said in a telephone interview. This is what Arnold had to say in a telephone interview concerning the prison video. I found this on the VH1 website. One of the guys, due to be featured on the show, beat his girlfriend with a two by four, buried her alive, returned hours later and beat her some more, placed a 222lb cement slab on her face and left her for dead. Report said it took hours for her to die! You want us to watch this monster perform on television!!!! Everyone involved in this needs their head examined and that mean you to Arnold! |
Cricket | Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 05:56 pm     You got it Bastable. This horrible person will do anything to make a buck. The interview with the mother of the dead girl on these inmates killed was heartwrenching. How could Arnie stoop so low to make money? This is what reality TV has wrought. They'll go lower and lower to make money. Karma will bite him in the butt. |
Bastable | Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 06:25 pm     If Arnie really wanted to highlight the horrors of prison, how about a series about people who have been wrongly convicted and can't get out of jail now? Or a series about people who can't vote again even though they've served their time and paid their penalties? Or what about--ooh yeah, this is right up Arnie's dark little alley--live broadcasts of executions, so that America is really "plugged into" what's going on with the electric chair! But a show about a prison band? AS thinks this is an education? H-o-o-o-o-o-o-r! |
Sherbabe | Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 06:53 pm     Just saw an article at ABC.com about a new reality show on vh1 about a band that is in jail. It said that Arnold Shapiro, was producing it. Anybody watch it? How disgusting. |
Misslibra | Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 07:30 pm     Hey, Hey now let us not be to hard on AS. After all he is the one who brings us BB. But to be truthful I could careless about prison bands. But if this is a way for the prisoner's to make money from their music, I'm all for it as long as every penny goes to the victims families, otherwise I don't see any use for it. Bastable said> If Arnie really wanted to highlight the horrors of prison, how about a series about people who have been wrongly convicted and can't get out of jail now? Or a series about people who can't vote again even though they've served their time and paid their penalties? Very well said Bastable, I'll say amen to that! AMEN!!!  |
Moderator | Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 07:53 pm     Bump |
Mark13 | Monday, October 21, 2002 - 04:31 pm     Quote:If Arnie really wanted to highlight the horrors of prison, how about a series about people who have been wrongly convicted and can't get out of jail now? Or a series about people who can't vote again even though they've served their time and paid their penalties? Or what about--ooh yeah, this is right up Arnie's dark little alley--live broadcasts of executions, so that America is really "plugged into" what's going on with the electric chair! But a show about a prison band? AS thinks this is an education? H-o-o-o-o-o-o-r!
Well I can agree with the broadcast executions part, and I too am disgusted about this VH1 show, but I'm sorta scratching my head about the other "horrors" you pointed out. For instance, the "wrongly convicted" part. The term "wrongly" is a bit subjective. Some feel anyone convicted of a drug-related offense is wrongly convicted, some don't, and some think some drug convictions are OK and others aren't. If we're talking about people who were convicted, but who are actually innocent, then I'm OK with a show about that. As far as the "can't vote again, even though they've served their time and paid their penalties" part: I've always felt that not being able to vote again is part of the penalty. You commit a felony, then you can't vote again, period. If you plan to commit one you'd better know that going in. Unfortunately, we use voter roles in many localities to determine who is eligible for jury duty, and I think that might be one of the original reasons for this. I don't want felons serving on juries (and possibly letting all their felon buddies go free!) Changing the law about who serves on juries might be a good start. Many states now use driver's license records, car registrations, etc. to form their jury pools and leave it up to the judge to weed out the felons. Another "right" felons give up is gun ownership. I can't argue with that one, but if they've "paid their penalties", then some might! |
Car54 | Monday, October 21, 2002 - 04:51 pm     Is this still on? I thought I read somewhere that so many governors were protesting it was on hold or something. |
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