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Ketchuplover

Friday, April 25, 2003 - 4:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Anybody who claims they knew the killer's identity before it's revealed is talking out of their butt.

ps. This is definitely worth seeing :)

Pamy

Friday, April 25, 2003 - 5:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Now I will have to go see this movie, I have always wanted to be able to talk outta my butt.

Ketchuplover

Friday, April 25, 2003 - 9:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Just make sure you use mouthwash or buttwash :)

Pamy

Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 11:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL! I have missed ya KL!

Ketchuplover

Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 2:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
We had some crazy times together :)

Pamy

Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 3:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yes we did, I miss those carefree days... <sigh>

Ketchuplover

Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 10:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
(((PAMY))) :)

Pamy

Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 12:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL!

Ketchuplover

Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 2:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
:)

Monkeyboy

Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 8:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
*stalk stalk*

Guess who?

Crazydog

Monday, April 28, 2003 - 7:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I saw it on Friday, and I thought it was great. The plot twists at the end were creative and unexpected. Even the very last in the car was unexpected. Great flick, very entertaining.

I've seen this billed as "Psycho meets Clue" or "scarier than The Sixth Sense and The Ring". I thought it was nowhere near as scary as The Ring or The Sixth Sense. It was very suspenseful, but you can pretty much tell exactly when someone is going to die. Many of the deaths don't even happen onscreen. So for those of the faint of heart, don't worry, it's not a gory slasher film.

There's only one scene that truly made me jump, and it happens pretty much right in the beginning.

Juju2bigdog

Sunday, May 18, 2003 - 2:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Saw it yesterday at the theater before it leaves town. All the way through I just kept saying, "this is a really weird movie." Bigdog still didn't get it even when it was over, although he did when I explained it to him. Interesting concept. Ray Liotta sure does creepy and threatening well.

Meemo

Friday, September 12, 2003 - 6:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
help!!! because i don't get it. so did he kill those people when he was a child? or as an adult but with his "child" personality? did he become those personalities after he killed them. i don't get it?

Lycanthrope

Friday, September 12, 2003 - 8:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I've only seen it once, but I'll try to help. He killed those people as an adult. His mother was a prostitute who abandoned him. It was so traumatic that his mind fractured into several personalities, only one of which was a true serial killer which was the one that took control of him when he went on the murder spree for which he was to be executed for. Hope that helps without being too spoilerish.

Meemo

Friday, September 12, 2003 - 9:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
please do not read if you don't want to know:


okay maybe i'm making this more confusing that it should be but. . . . didn't the doctor say that all the personalities would meet and one would begin to kill the others off so. . . . . the people at the motel weren't really the names that he gave them (personality wise)? they just were people he didn't know and he was calling them names of his personalities? BTW thanks for answering helping out!!

Max

Friday, September 12, 2003 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
spoiler alert! Don't read this unless you've SEEN the movie or it will ruin it completely!
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Okay, here's my take on it, FWIW. (Highlight the text to see it better.)

There was no motel. There were no "people." All of that was inside the convict's mind. The folks at the motel were each a different personality manifested in the guy's mind by his mental disorder. The psychiatrist had been working with him using hypnosis to bring all these personalities together in an attempt to integrate them and "cure" the convict. In his mind, the way this occurred was for a series of coincidences to bring all the different personalities together at the motel.

The John Cusak character represented the personality that the psychiatrist felt was the most balanced, strong, and able to understand what was happening. That personality was trying to help the integration along, once he fully understood what was happening. When he "died," he knew that it was part of the integration process and thought that the girl would be the final personality in place and could have her orange grove life.

However, everyone was fooled by the little boy personality who was really the evil one. That little boy is the one who harbored all the anger and hatred from when the convict's mother abandoned him. He never grew up, he just got angrier and meaner and more deceptive. He knew what the psychiatrist was trying to do, so he just laid back and let the others fight it out. Then, he waited for his opportunity and took it.


I thought it was a very interesting storyline. :)

Lycanthrope

Friday, September 12, 2003 - 10:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
That was my take, too, Max. Exactly the way I saw things play out.

Meemo

Friday, September 12, 2003 - 11:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
spoiler alert
okay i see exactly what you are saying but why was he going to be executed (remember the newspaper clippings of a murder at a hotel) if this never happened and it was only in his head? sorry i'm being a pain. i always get movies this one is just nagging me.

Meemo

Friday, September 12, 2003 - 11:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
okay i think i got it:

he committed a crime (as the little boy personality) which we never saw. and the whole thing at the motel was the psychiatrist trying to bring all the personalities together and find out which one did it?
is that right?

Bananaclip

Friday, September 12, 2003 - 3:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think that's right, Meemo.

Pretty good movie. My df and I couldn't have had worse timing watching this though. I'm in the middle of explaining to him my mother's mental illness, dissociative identity disorder, formally known as multiple personality disorder. I had to reassure him none of her "personalities" are evil. Sometimes I have to wonder though, haha.

Max

Friday, September 12, 2003 - 4:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Don't ya love white text to hide spoilers? :)

yes, except I think the psychiatrist's motive was not to find out "who" did it, but to prove that, due to his mental illness, the convict should not be put to death for having done it as he wasn't "in his right mind" at the time. He wanted the death sentence overturned, which is what happened, and the convict sent to a mental facility for life instead (which is what was going to happen at the end until the little boy made his final appearance and altered those plans for everyone). :)

Lycanthrope

Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 8:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think we all get it now, and since I don't know how to white out my posts, I'll leave it at that. Peace to all you humans---Lycanthrope

Tashakinz

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 9:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Rented this on Saturday - loved it. I did, however, suspect the ending as the "identity" in question was missing for the last 10 or so mins of the scenario. (and no - I hadn't read this thread yet lol)

Tess

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 12:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I just watched this last night and had purposely avoided this thread so I wouldn't be tempted to peek. Max, I have it figured the way you do and I sure didn't expect the very end. Good movie.

I think I will rent it again in a month or two and watch it with an eye towards seeing how many clues there are before the ending. Sixth Sense was much different on second-viewing, for me anyway.

Daydreamer

Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 3:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I loved this movie! It was a very good story line. I definitely thought something was up with Cusak but I had no idea what it was. I also knew
Ray Liotta was not who he claimed to be. I think I'll have to watch it again too, now that I know the ending. I like doing that with these types of movies. Oh, did the beginning remind anyone else of Memento with the backwards thing?

Azriel

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 8:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This movie just had it's first run in Singapore. My boyfriend and I went and saw it last night. I'm glad I hadn't read this thread, yet.

It was a truly weird, but interesting movie.

Melfie1222

Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 12:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Dang me, I glanced here before I rented this movie last weekend and so I watched it sort of knowing what the deal was. Still I tried to let it surprise me, lol... did anyone else think that in the intro, when the doc is listening to his tapes etc... the guy he is listening to sounds exactly like James Spader?