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Lyra

Monday, April 14, 2003 - 11:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
trailer available here:

http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/

It comes out May 15.

Mssilhouette

Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 9:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Woohoo!!! THERE IS NO SPOON!!

Mssilhouette

Monday, May 12, 2003 - 1:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Wow no excitment generated for Matrix!? Well I shall wake up at the crack of dawn (4am) on Wednesday May 14 to see an early morning show at Mann's CHinese Theater in Hollyweird. Those who might be going at this time you'll be able to pick me out because I'll be the one standing up still asleep mumbling something about "There is no spoon"

I'll let you know how the movie afterwards. Think of it as an early opening exclusive review LOL

(geez what was I thinking 5 freaking AM...it better be really really really good!!)

Spygirl

Monday, May 12, 2003 - 2:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm going to see this Friday night during my celebration weekend and I can't wait!

Ketchuplover

Monday, May 12, 2003 - 4:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
celebration weekend?

Neko

Monday, May 12, 2003 - 4:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
We're planning on going to see it Saturday so YEAH!!!!

Spygirl

Monday, May 12, 2003 - 5:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I finally finish my doctorate this Friday - it'll be a big celebration!

Brenda1966

Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 8:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Mssilhouette, Yes, I am excited about the Matrix but I won't be able to see it for a week or so. I'll be avoiding reviews so I don't get spoiled.

However, can you explain "there is no spoon". It's been a while since I saw the first Matrix and I don't know what that means. LOL!

Wargod

Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 10:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hey, someone help me out please. I'm watching Carrie Ann Moss on Regis and Kelly and they just said that Matrix Reloaded is coming out now and that the third one is coming out in Novemeber? Why is the second and thrid ones being released so close together?

Lyra

Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 11:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Wargod, they filmed them back to back, so we get to see Revolutions sooner.

I rewatched it, Mssilhouette, now I remember "there is no spoon"! I had NO clue what you were talking about at first. And wow you're dedicated, seeing it so early.

Mssilhouette

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 8:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Okay its 8am PST and here's how my day went.
Sooooo I go down to the Famous (infamous) Chinese Theater in Hollywood. I get up at 2am to do some laundry (or I was gonna havta go naked) Then I get in a cab at 4:30 am and haul major booty to get there at 5am!

There's naturally a line of geared up and ready to go fans. Woohoo matrix. They even have the matrix motorcycle in front of the theater. (Although it's covered it's exciting to see it there)

So as I walk slowly to the back of the line a nice couple ask me (Are you waiting for tickets) I said well I'm waiting to go in. They smile polietly and say "The box office screwed up. They're is no show at 5am"

ARRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!! !@#$% !@#$%#$ Theater got me up at crack of #$%# dawn and I got nothing for it NOTHING I Tell you!

So the small and pissed off crowd waited in line to get a refund and a free tickets to any show. Soooo being the Matrix fan that I am I will be seeing the show at 5am Thursday.

Basically there was some computer glitch and it listed the thursday show as Wednesday. *sigh* so my review will wait until then.

The line "there is no spoon" is when Neo goes to see the Oracle and while he waits with the gifted children there is one who is bending a spoon with his thoughts. Neo is intrigued and the kid explains: "Do not try to bend the spoon but try and open your mind....because there is no spoon" It's an important scene because the kid basically expains to Neo how to conrol the matrix.

Wargod

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 8:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks. I can't wait to see this one....though it will probably be one of the few ones this summer we actually see this summer, LOL.

Lyra

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 10:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Some reading to get us all thinking in preparation for watching that a friend send me the link to:

http://search.csmonitor.com/search_content/0509/p16s01-almo.html

Mssilhouette

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 1:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Lyra thanks for the link but me brain go owie! I just wanna see the stunts and action. Seriously no one should read that much into a movie with CGI effects, leather & latex clad heroes, kung fu flying feats and bullets a plenty. Just don't seem right to talk about religion with all that going on, so it's pass the bible & da bullets?

Basically it has the mixture of a good action flick that's why we like it! Well at least that's why *I* like it. Oh and to see the costumes

Lyra

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 4:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL Mssilhouette, "me brain go owie!"

Yeah I know, but it's an interesting read if you want some deeper insights...

(OT note: one instance where university reading leads to some recognition. I actually remember the simulacra concept of Baudrillard's from an arts theory class I took semesters ago, wow.)

Abby7

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 5:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Lyra: Thanks for that link. I find that article explains it so well.

Kimmo

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 2:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Lyra, that was a great link! The "logo" part of the glossary was little far-fetched, but other than that, what a good read. It reminded me of how heavy-handed the religious parallels/ references were, and makes me really want to see the next two to see the payoff.

It also made me want to read Baudrillard to see if that gives some more clues to what the Wachowskis intended!

I liked the part in the article referencing gnostics, too. So interesting! Okay, I'll stop babbling now....

Essence

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 2:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
...Anxiously waiting to see how others liked it.

I saw it last night. Went to a 10:00pm showing. Didn't get out till almost 12:30. What was I thinking, knowing I had to get up at 5:00.

Mssilhouette

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 2:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Okay I have seen the matrix.....and it is GOOD!! 5 am pays off when you have news coverage of your unending devotion to images on a screen.

Here’s the basic overview (without giving away the plot or any spoliers):

Fans won't be disappointed! The storyline is well crafted even better than the first installment. Action is naturally unparalleled as well as the special effects. Everyone is dressed exceptionally while in the matrix and not too shabby outside when they are in Zion. There’s plenty of martial arts gravity defying acts, stuff blowing up and plain ole matrix style bullet firing action. In fact you get that all in the first scene!

The storyline is for those who have seen the first one. If you haven’t a clue about the there being no spoon, don’t even bother until you watch the first one. They don’t take the time to explain what happened in the first movie. Either you know or you’ll be lost.

NEO is well Neo and sorry but Mr. Reeve’s acting hasn’t gotten that much better but this time he doesn’t have that much “acting” to do. He left that up to Agent Smith and Morpheus, both of which do an EXCELLENT job!

At the end everyone in the theater gave the anguished cry of “Noooooo!” It was a nice cliff hanger.

So ends the praise. There’s only a few things that bothered me but it was to be expected with them filming 2 back to back. First off the Scene in Zion with the dancing was way a tad bit too long because it was either used as filler or someone was really feeling the music and the dancing bodies. By the way this is also where the love scene happens, it’s tastefully done but it was still too long. Secondly, CGI/Computer stuff basically looks as such. It’s distracts from the scene when Neo is completely computer drawn and it starts to look like a video game. While I don’t mind CGI I mind it when the use it for the entire actor. I like the look of live people doing stunts than computerized figures moving. It doesn’t look natural because…well it’s not and it’s extremely obvious. That being said, this is what takes away from some fight scenes.
Please note I’m not talking about the computer effects for bullets or the ships. Only when a complete computerized figure is used for a stunt. The audience knows and is pulled out of their suspended reality for that second. And that’s all I have to say about that.

A side note, if you go to a theater that has an excellent sound system and likes to crank things up a notch I suggest you bring some ear plugs and try not to have a weak heart. I enjoyed the movie in digital projection and THX heart pumping sound with JBL speakers. Basically I could FEEL bass in each explosion and in my heart. (well at least it felt that way)


Overall it is a Great movie and the 2 hours go by way too fast! There are some lighthearted moments which round out the feel. Basically it gets you antsy for the final installment.

Faerygdds

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 7:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Just an FYI...

First of all I saw this movie the night before it opened at an early 10pm showing. I LOVED IT!!! Can't wait until November. We also had the anguished cries at the end of the film, but *I* was expecting it.

I read several articles before going to see the film and the story goes something like this...

They intended this to be a sequel. One movie!!! However, when they finished editing it it was almost 5 hours long. SO.................

The Warshowski brothers decided to split the movie in half and make 2 rather than cut out 2.5 hours of film.

All that being said... while this movie answered a lot of questions for me about the Matrix, the Oracle, etc... it brought up many more.

We really need a special thread devoted to spoiling/theories of the Matrix. My dh and I discussed the possibilities for about 2 hours after the movie and I would love to share some of the idea that we kicked around.

And oh yeah (minor spoiler)... I LOVED the scene where Neo is presented with a gift from an orphan whose only message is, "He will understand"... it's a spoon! TOO GREAT!

Kady

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 9:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I never saw the first Matrix. My son is forcing me against my will to take him to this tomorrow. I just really wonder if I will enjoy it at all. He seems to think I will like it. Does one have to see the first part to understand the sequel?

Faerygdds

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 9:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Kady... do yourself a favor and rent the first one before you see the sequel... You might still enjoy the movie, but you will have NO idea what the back story is and what is really going on. If time is of the essence and you just want a sysnopsis, then I'm sure you can find one online as there are THOUSANDS of Matrix websites online. You may also find one someplace like epinions.com.

Either way... you'll want to see the first one (before or after the sequel) it's a great movie. Just to give you and idea of the diversity of the audience... I went to one theatre (I'm 31). My brother (34), some friends from work (18-45), and my Mother (57) went to a showing farther North by where they live. They all enjoyed the movie thoroughly! If you like action -- there is plenty. If you like Drama -- there is plenty. If you like intelletual stimulators -- you'll be thinking for a while afterwards. It really does have something for everyone. And even though there is planty of action... it is very short on blood and gore -- in fact, I can't think of any!

Keep an open mind and have a good time!

Kady

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 9:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks Faery!! :)

Squaredsc

Saturday, May 17, 2003 - 7:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
saw the movie tonite, i absolutely loved it. gosh those fight scenes were awesome. i just love keanu reeves, i may have to add him to my list too.

Faerygdds

Sunday, May 18, 2003 - 10:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I swear, while the fight scenes did tend to get a bit long.. the martial arts choreographer is a GOD!!!!

Lyra

Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 6:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I finally saw this today (seems like I waited forever but it's only been a week since it opened).

It was so apparent to me this time around it's the same fight choreographer as Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon -- there's this balleticism and elegance (if fight scenes can be that) that is hard to explain.

I found the plot a bit harder to follow than the first one, all the new elements don't quite make sense yet, but I think it will all come together.

I also liked the new characters, those twins were tres cool. Now I can finally read the spoiler thread!

Ericka1012

Saturday, May 24, 2003 - 8:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
FYI...in case you didn't know...

My dh wanted me to tell you all after all the credits are shown there is a new trailor for the next movie...

Spygirl

Saturday, May 24, 2003 - 9:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well FART! I sat and watched almost 10 minutes of credits only to learn that they lasted over 15 minutes (some guy walking by told me)...and I had to pee so bad I was in severe pain. I gave up and raced to the bathroom.

Ryn

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 11:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
DOH!!! I saw it last weekend and didn't wait through the credits - rats!

Something I have not seen mentioned here - The Animatrix - several animated features that will be out on DVD in June. 4 of them can be downloaded now via the matrix site.

They are mostly fill-in stories, explaining some of the history of how machines came to take over, and things like that. One also is about the ship that is mentioned in the current movie (Osirus? - can't recall) about the warning they made.

I plan on buying the DVD - at my theater there were $5 discount coupons as I went in so I am guessing it will cost me maybe $10 if I get it the 1st weekend its out.

:)

I liked the movie and agree that some of the animated fight stuff was not as "flawless" as they seemed to hype, I could tell it was computer generated but thats ok - the car chase scene was excellent!!!

Hermione69

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 7:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I saw it in open caption yesterday... the projector ate the film 5 minutes before the end of the movie and they were unable to get it fixed. Grrr! Thankfully, I saw it with my brother who had seen it already and was able to tell me the ending. We got free tickets for the fiasco, so it ended up being not too shabby of a deal.

I enjoyed it thoroughly, but agree if you haven't seen the first one, you would be lost. I watched the first one again the morning before we went. I hadn't watched it in several years and if I had not watched it again, I would have been terribly lost.

I loved the special effects. Those scary twins were awesome. Good story!

Ophiliasgrandma

Monday, November 10, 2003 - 11:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Just saw it on DVD and skipped the chapters of the long speech and orgy as per my daughter's suggestion. Made for a pretty good movie after that. Although I couldn't make heads or tails out of what was going on, I don't think it mattered.