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Hummingbird
| Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 11:11 am
Have you ever seen a movie panned so badly on TV? I have seen spots discussing how bad this movie is on every network and several cable channels. Must be because Ben and Jen are so overexposed. It will be interesting to see if the romance survives the movie reviews since both have such huge egos.
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Brenda1966
| Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 12:04 pm
I'm guessing it's over exposure (I know I'm sick of them.) Both the reviewers I like (Ebert and Berdenellini) said it is a mess, but it isn't the worst film of the decade. I'll probably rent it someday out of curiosity and because I like Affleck. I wish he's just hurry up and marry her so we can get on with the divorce proceedings. I predict a few Razzie awards here.
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Rissa
| Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 7:14 am
I was surprised that Ebert, of all people, would be one of so few to actually give this movie more than an F. LOL Our local reviewer said that "apart from anything Tom Green has starred in, let's not forget Freddie got Fingered, that this was most probably the worst movie ever made" Yesterday on the radio I heard a blurb from Sony.... apparently the movie is doing so badly that although the theatres are contracted to run it for two weeks that Sony doesn't HAVE to run ads for it and they no longer will. What strikes me about this whole deal isn't the movie being bad. It happens, something that looked good on paper or a concept that strikes the right chord doesn't work out. No what gets me in the funny bone is that KNOWING their approaching movie was so terrible, they two started prostituting their relationship to try to win viewers. {sigh}. That doesn't bode well for everlasting love, LOL, not that I was that naive to being with.
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Djgirl5235
| Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 10:07 am
The thing about this movie (which I refuse to see) is that the initial screening was received so badly that they had to rewrite the ending and reshoot... the chemistry between Ben & Jen just isn't there in the movie, so how can it be there in reality as well?!?!
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Kimmo
| Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 2:08 pm
I don't know about blaming Ben and Jen...Is the chemistry between two people of different sexual orientations in a forced working relationship (one of the people being a sexist dullard/moron), the same as the chemistry between two people of the same sexual orientation being in love and attracted to each other voluntarily (where both the people are *not* repulsive idiots)?
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Ketchuplover
| Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 2:47 pm
I like one review that said it was Rigli Rigli bad
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Kimmo
| Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 1:27 am
Conan O'Brien just had their intro comedy bit on "Coping with Gigli"-- The theme song they did was hilarious! One line was something like, "Gigli" was really, really bad I haven't been so disappointed since they cancelled "Major Dad"
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Hummingbird
| Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 8:21 am
..Is the chemistry between two people of different sexual orientations in a forced working relationship (one of the people being a sexist dullard/moron) ************************************************** Kimmo, I had to read this post twice. I thought the first part of the sentence refered to reality and not the movie! LOL
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Djgirl5235
| Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 10:23 am
Too funny Kimmo! One of the entertainment news programs here did a thing on Gigli the other night, and stated that it follows on the heels of other bad movies starring real life couples: Tom Cruise & Nicole Kidman (broke up following the movie's release - really bad onscreen chemistry) Madonna & Sean Penn - same as above I can't remember the other ones that they listed, but all couples had broken up following the release of the movie - kind of interesting don't you think?
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Kimmo
| Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 12:22 pm
But TC and NK had "Far and Away"...Though that was a period piece, which might make it different... Except M and SP were in a period piece! I didn't think "Eyes Wide Shut" was bad, it was just really studied and I didn't think that was Tom and Nicole's fault. Like "Gigli," the situation being portrayed lacked chemistry (wasn't Tom's character looking for sexual adventure outside marriage)? Since Ben and Jen did yet another movie after "Gigli," maybe "Jersey Girl" will cancel this one out and leave their relationship intact! I can imagine both "Eyes" (Kubrick, serious/experimental)and "Surprise" (Madonna wants a hit movie and to bring her and Sean together) being stressful to participate in the production of, then leading to the breakup. But Ben and Jen are established stars and have nothing riding on this movie. I can't believe I said "Ben and Jen" so many times in this post. I have absolutely no unusual affection for these people to refer to them so repeatedly and familiarly! Ugh.
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Djgirl5235
| Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 1:54 pm
Lol Kimmo! TC & NK also had their debut film together (that Car racing movie, that has slipped my mind completely). I have just found that real couples lack the chemistry on screen that they have off screen... just my opinion
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Grooch
| Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 2:02 pm
Well, if J-Lo and Ben break up soon, I think it will have more to do with the strippers he had sex with at Christian Slater's house rather than a bad movie. Assuming that the National Enquirer's story is true, of course.
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Kimmo
| Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 2:33 pm
Grooch: Ew! Why am I smiling? Confused! DJ-- I agree, there really hasn't been a movie with real stars where the chemistry interested me. I admit, I was bored by "Eyes Wide Shut," "Far and Away" (though cute story) and "Days of Thunder". I am not interested in Tracy/Hepburn, Bogey/Bacall, just because...After a while it exploits their chemistry and that feels "fake" too, but movies back then were expected more to be "movies" and not have us expect genuine chemistry (though everyone says the sparks fly when these famous couples are on screen together).
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Kellee
| Friday, August 08, 2003 - 10:00 pm
The thing to remember is when they went into this movie they were not a couple..they were just costars...she was a newlywed with Cris Judd..it was during this movie that she decided to dump her vows and run off with Ben...it has just taken this long for this movie to come out cause of the rewrites and such....
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Jbean
| Friday, August 08, 2003 - 10:25 pm
have any of you seen the movie? i ACTUALLY saw it last weekend...hadn't heard any of the bad reviews at that point, and i really didn't think it was THAT BAD. i mean parts of it were slow, but some parts of it were SO FUNNY. i don't know, maybe we have warped senses of humor (the friend i saw it with, is who i am referring to), as we were the only ones laughing during some parts. oh well...bygones.
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Kimmo
| Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 12:03 am
J, I wouldn't go to a movie featuring either Ben or Jen normally, so I haven't seen it. I'm sure it has good parts, like any movie, and everyone has different tastes. Are you talking about the finger-related scenes being funny? When I read that part of the AP review, I could picture myself finding it funny (shamedly) Kellee, not being together before "Gigli" was another reason I thought B and J didn't have a lot riding on it. I finally saw the tabloids today, in line at the checkout stand-- Did he fall off the wagon? He seems like an intelligent person, would he really do something like that in a happy relationship? Not that I am that interested...Oh-- Damn you, "Gigli"!
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Jbean
| Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 8:13 am
Yeah, the finger stuff was kind of funny. I don't know, it reminded me a little bit of Rain Man because the kid that they are supposed to be holding hostage has mental problems. And that kid is SO cute! He is the best part of the movie. Like the whole movie, he is wanting to go to "the Baywatch" and Ben tells him that's where they are going, that's how he gets him to go along with him. And the part where they meet Ben's mom (played by the great Lainie Kazan) is cute, too. Also one of the highlights of the whole movie is when the kid sings "Baby got Back". That was hilarious. Again, like I said, we laughed at a lot of stuff that no one else in the theater did. Now, in real life I think they B & J are nuts. Please, that girl changes boyfriend, it seems like with fashion changes. I have a hard time believing thatthis is "it". Especially since in the Barbra Walters interview, she told her that Ben told her, that she could be proud of this latest album, because she could tell "her" kids (not THEIR kids), that that was her, then. Give me a break. Oh well, hopefully they will prove us all wrong, and it will work out.
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Grooch
| Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 8:34 am
Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention that the night he was with the strippers was the night the Barbara Walters interview was airing.
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Squaredsc
| Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 9:41 am
well i hope they were good strippers. now how the hell do you pronounce gigli?
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Rissa
| Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 9:57 am
LOL Square. Try *geally* as in rhymes with really. I must be out of the gossip loop, hadn't even heard about the strippers {sigh} AND I missed the Walters interview. My whole Ben/Jen aversion goes back to that stupid rascism comment Ben made, although I have to admit having Chris Judd turn out to be soooo adorable is probably a factor too. LOL
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Squaredsc
| Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 10:03 am
maldita sea rissa, i missed that one. what did ben say? will it piss me off? and thx for the pronunciation, i keep saying jiggly.
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Rissa
| Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 11:41 am
Might... depends on your tolerance for listening to people talk with their foot rammed down to their tonsils. LOL Apparently Ben feels that the press is NOT interested in Jen because she is a incredibly rich, incredibly beautiful, talented young lady who has both a successful recording and acting career. The press is NOT interested in Jen because added to the above is a 30 year old woman who is already going on to her third marriage, not to mention a long term serious relationship with a man who was involved in some sort of gun escapade who is himself incredibly famous, rich and talented. The press is NOT interested in Ben because he pretty much appeared on screen and on the Oscar stage in the same week (small exageration lol), NOT interested because he is a major movie star with high profile relationships behind him as well. Nope, Ben feels the media and the public (the portion of the public who finds this interesting) is only interested because we are racist and don't want Hispanics dating White people. Apparently when they (Jen/Ben) walk down the street and people look at them, it's because they are racist and disaproving. Not because they are both... duhhh... famous. It was just the most asinine, idiotic little speech. I kept thinking that it must just have come out wrong or that he was going to pop up at a later date to apologize and say he was talking about one specific reporter they had had issues with. But nope, he's been absolutely mute on the issue since then, as far as I've seen. So to any of you posting in this thread.. you know what Ben would say !!
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Squaredsc
| Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 6:55 pm
hmm, i would like to see/hear the original quote to figure out why he said it and what exactly he said. i haven't seen or heard about this anywhere. thx rissa.
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Yankee_In_Ca
| Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 9:42 pm
I don't really care about these two, but I had to comment on one thing: I live in Vancouver, and the places he went on the "infamous" stripper night -- from the 2 singles bars he went to earlier in the night, to the strip club itself -- are pretty skanky -- the bars are sort of young pickup places. I find that weird. Just goes to prove that no matter how hard celebs try to make us think they're incredibly cultured, they're just real people after all.
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Kimmo
| Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 12:11 am
I just read the "People" article on it, and the strippers reported that while Ben partook of lap dances, there was no inappropriate touching or whatever else was reported in the tabloids. Then that as he was getting a lap dance, he was talking to a stripper about how excited he was to be getting married. Aw, how sweet! ;) Yankee, that is so funny about the skankiness, when there is a sidebar in the "People" article saying how strip clubs are so classy and respectable nowadays, hence celebrities frequenting them! Ugh.
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