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Twiggyish

Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 1:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Setting it up..

Marysafan

Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 2:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Chapter five...Boxing Day...is a prime example of why visits to family need to be infrequent...and short....and that's all I'm saying!

Twiggyish

Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 2:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
ME, TOO!!!

Seamonkey

Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 3:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Grrr at Barbara and her "helpful" makeup hints. and the equally catty sister-in-law..

Twiggyish

Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 3:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
They both remind me of people I know in real life.

Marysafan

Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 7:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Me too....my mother and my sister! They are awful to my brothers' wives.

Mak1

Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 11:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh yes, they are real people, and we all know them.

Wargod

Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 11:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sigh....I've run chapter 3-5 togehter. Got so excited about actually geting to read undisturbed I kept going and got them all mixed up!

Just going to say again I have great sympathy for Kate.

Hermione69

Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 6:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Chapter 5, although short, was a powerful chapter to me. First the email that she wrote to her friend and then deleted because "there is only so much you can confess, even to your dearest friend. Even to yourself." That one, wow, it resonated. About two and a half years ago, when I had just moved to where I live now, I was in the depths of a major depression. One night I sat down and emailed a friend back home and I poured my heart out, and even confessed that I really wanted to hurt myself. I sent it and then I thought, "Oh my God, what have I done?" It was just too much information. Too much for me and too much for her. We were both AOL users at the time and AOL had an option of unsending messages to other AOL users, provided you unsent it before it was read (I don't know if they still have that?) Well, I decided to unsend the message. Mercifully my friend had not read it yet, but she had seen it in her inbox and asked me about it and I played dumb. I just didn't want anyone to know that much about what I was going through.

The other thing that was very powerful for me was Rich's admission that it bothers him that Kate makes more money. I have never been able to have a successful relationship with a man over whom I had an advantage in brains, education or money. Ever. Period. I know it happens. I've seen other people have successful relationships despite these factors, but it never worked for me. And in my cases, it was the man's resentments of these things that usually ended up causing insurmountable problems.

I was also very moved reading Kate's New Year's Resolutions. That list shows us that she knows everything that is going on. All the things we have picked up on about her, she knows. She seems to have a pretty good level of self awareness. She's aware of the problems, but not the solutions.

There is a line from Lord of the Rings when Bilbo is talking to Gandalf in his Hobbit hole. He says he is tired and he feels like "butter scraped over too much bread." I think that is very much how Kate is feeling, like butter scraped over too much bread. The bread is her husband, her children, her in-laws, her job, her coworkers, her nanny, everything facet of her life. Kate is the butter and she just can't cover it all.

Schoolmarm

Sunday, February 02, 2003 - 6:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Loved the line at the end of the chapter after she had scratched her husband's name "Rich" on the frosted window and her seatmate asked if she was hoping for a lottery win.

"What? Oh, Rich isn't money." I say. "He's a man. Rich is my husband."

GREAT line. And the double meanings are very...shall we say...RICH!