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Neko
| Tuesday, December 10, 2002 - 2:19 pm
I thought it would bve better if we had an area all it's own. If the mods what, you can close this and just keep the regular "Lord of the Rings" thread. 8 DAYS!! I have some music from it on my computer including the hard to find remixed theme to "Requiem for a dream" that's to be used it the moive. I have it here on my website... The Song The trailer(s) look good too.. Offical Lord of the Rings Website Sounds like a good soundtrack. And more Orlando Bloom!! I mean, even if I hated Lord of the Rings (Which I don't!) I'd go to the movie just for him.. *drools*
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Webkitty
| Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 1:06 pm
Ok folks, today is the day! Post all comments here for The Two Towers, please I am a huge fan, so my thinking may be skewed to some, but I have decided to wait until after the holidays to see this. I'm selfish, and don't want to be distracted by a crowded theater. <sits anxiously waiting for the first reviews to come in> PS: if they are good, I MAY change my mind
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Calamity
| Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 1:12 pm
Seeing it Thursday at 6:30pm. Faintly hoping that the "Survivor" finale will put a small dent in the crowd. We saw 'FotR' opening day last year and the theater was about 75% full but I expect 'TTT' will sell out, at least this first week.
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Spygirl
| Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 4:51 pm
We had plans to go see it today, but the weather here is....bad. The Weather Channel thinks tonight will be in the top 10 worst outbreaks of tornados. I am trying to get buckled down and ready for it. We've already had tornado damage north of here by less than 20 miles and the worst is still ahead. Maybe I'll get to see the movie Friday 
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Yankee_In_Ca
| Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 6:00 pm
We're seeing it tonight at 9PM (PT). Will try to post my thoughts tomorrow a.m.
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Halfunit
| Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 7:08 pm
Wooo hoooo !!!
 I thought there was more humor this time around. Especially dwarf humor. And that's all I'm saying 'til you guys see it!
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Muse
| Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 12:53 am
Loved it. I thought it was slightly better than the first movie. And that's impressive, because I *really* liked FotR. Eowyn and Gollum were great additions to the cast. Gollum still looked a little too computer-generated at times, but the voice and dialogue were great. I also enjoyed the drawf humor (good comic relief). Especially the counting with Legolas.
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Hermione69
| Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 5:24 am
I can't wait. It will not be released in Open Caption until mid-January and even then may not come to my area right away. I'm not sure if I will try it without OC. There are very few movies I can enjoy without captioning because I get too frustrated. I'm excited to hear how much everyone is enjoying and it will be interesting to see Gollum's greater role. There was definite foreshadowing on him in the first movie, particularly when Gandalf and Frodo were talking in the mines. It's getting fabulous reviews. This is one of the rare times that I really hate having such a severe hearing loss because I really really really want to see this movie NOW!
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Webkitty
| Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 9:11 am
I can't wait either and am toying with the idea of going tomorrow. (during the day) How crowded were the theaters? Herm, I have a very slight hearing loss in one ear, not anything like yours, but enough to miss nuances of what people say a lot of times. I am continually asking my husband: what did they say? The sound in the theaters is so LOUD, but I still miss some words. This is one reason I avoid going to movies when its crowded. Someone rustling popcorn next to me will really throw me off. Could someone tell me what the Ents were like? Did they look like what you imagined? How long did the battle of Helms Deep go on? Where did the dwaf humor come in (just give me a hint to jog my memory) I don't remember any counting with Legolas from the book! Ack! ~want to go now!~
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Yankee_In_Ca
| Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 11:31 am
Yes, yes, yes. This was a GREAT movie. I saw it at 9PM last night, and after we got through the 25 minutes of ads and previews, the movie lasted until about 12:20 AM. We lined up at 7:00 and were still about 50 people back in the line. But it was definitely worth it. I will try not to put any spoilers here, except to say the following, and to answer some of Webkitty's questions: 1) Those of you who love Viggo/Aragorn, will NOT be disappointed. Smoldering as usual. 2) Those of you who love Orlando/Legolas, will NOT be disappointed. He has a much larger role in this film than the last. 3) Webkitty, to answer your question about dwarf humour, there were quite a few "short" jokes by and at the expense of Gimli. They WERE funny; however, after the movie, I thought to myself that maybe it was a little too much -- in the book, Gimli was a very strong fighter and character. He is also strong in the movie, but while all of the jokes were possibly necessary to break up all of the fighting and darkness in the film, I'm not sure it was necessarily true to his character. 4) Webkitty, the Ents were cool, though it's hard sometimes to see a visualization of something you had visualized in your mind for so long. I thought they'd be bigger, more imposing. I also thought that sometimes, when Merry and Pippin were being carried by Treebeard, the special effects weren't as good as in the rest of the film. But, those are MINOR criticisms. Otherwise, they were very magical. 5) The Battle of Helms Deep is the centerpiece of the film -- nearly everything leads up to it, and it is the film's climax. Some of you may have read that this film is basically one big fight scene. To be sure, there is a LOT of fighting in this film, BUT each battle has its own "sub-stories" and nuances, and I didn't find it tedious or boring -- and I'm not a big lover of war and battle films. I'd say the Battle of Helms Deep went on in its entirety for at least 20-30 minutes. But within that time, it wasn't just all-out fighting -- you had strategy, side conversations, different phases of the battle, etc. 6) For those "purists," this film DOES stray a bit from the book. However, I didn't find it disturbing in the least. I really enjoyed the way Jackson put it together. However, I saw it with a friend who was a little disappointed. Personally, I didn't mind. 7) I thought the CGI done to create Gollum/Smeagol was REALLY GOOD -- I found the character to be very full of life and very believable as a "real" character. Of course, when you have CGI, you're going to notice it isn't real, but I think that this is definitely a step forward for computer imaging. All in all, I loved this movie. Some will be put off by the fact that it's not a strict adaptation of the book, some will be put off by the fact that there's no real beginning nor end to this film (must be horribly difficult to create a "middle" movie like this), and some will be put off by the battles. But I, for one, give it my highest praise. I loved it.
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Halfunit
| Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 11:47 am
Yankee - wonderful non-spoiling synopsis! Since I never read the books, I don't have the luxury of compairisons. However, I am married to someone who's mother had to buy him two sets of the trilogy as he wore out the first set! DH was pleased with the movie. So pleased, in fact, that he went with his best friend to see it and they are about an hour into the movie as I type. Two days in a row - he is so spoiled!
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Webkitty
| Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 11:55 am
Yankee, thank you! I called the theater and tickets are still being sold in advance for tomorrow and its sounds like a madhouse down there right now. I guess I'll wait until next week Anyway, about Helms Deep. It was the climax of the movie? It comes in the middle of the book! What happened to chapters V111 through X? 20-30 minutes of watching orchs is not my cup of tea, but I'll wait until after I see it to complain! lol! So I take it that Peter Jackson shows ~the taming of Smeagol~ and Frodo and Sam's journey into Mordor BEFORE Helms Deep, cool with me, it probably makes the movie flow better. I have a feeling I might be a just a "little" disapointed in the Ents. I pictured them as huge, and more like trees than human type beings. I know I won't be disapointed in Gollum. I was satisfied with him in the first movie, my prescioussssss! lol!
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Yankee_In_Ca
| Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 12:00 pm
Webkitty -- Yes, part of the issue my friend had with the film is that the order of this film is NOT the same as in the book. I read an interview with Jackson earlier this week, where he said he really struggled with that, but he thought it was necessary to have the main storylines parallel each other. Regarding Helms Deep, there is still more after the battle, but yes, it is the climax of the movie to be sure. And, don't get me wrong about the Ents. They are big -- but not as humongous as my overactive imagination had pictured them!
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Webkitty
| Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 12:10 pm
Yankee, I don't have any problem with Jackson switching around the chapters to make the movie flow better, I just want to know about it before I go so I'm not distracted when it happens. Thanks to you, I'll know what to expect and I'll be fine with it. I know what you mean about the "purists". None of them will ever be completely satisfied. (not to put down your friend or anything, lol) I'm not sure how I feel about the jokes at Gimli's expense, but again, I'll wait to see the movie to pass judgement on that. Wow, Halfunit, your hubby liked it that much! Whoo hoo!!! 
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Yankee_In_Ca
| Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 12:40 pm
Webkitty -- Gimli cracks most of the jokes at his own expense. Most were funny. I just found it mildly distracting in retrospect. I wasn't criticizing the purists; I just feel differently! And Halfunit, I can't believe your husband is seeing it two days in a row! He must have buns of steel (to sit for three hours two days in a row)!! lol
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Yankee_In_Ca
| Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 12:50 pm
OK, I have to say one more thing after all my yada-yada-yada jabbering above -- I really loved this movie.
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Halfunit
| Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 1:35 pm
Buns of steel? LMAO... It didn't seem like three hours to me. I got a little squirmy in my seat after two hours, but a quick stretch and I was good to go!
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Neko
| Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 3:06 pm
Yeah!! More Orlando Bloom!! I'm going to see in on Saturday night. It's really funny, most of my friends skipped the end of school on Wednesday and today so they could go see the movie in a Not-so crowded theatre. I would have gone with htme but I already had plans to go on Saturday before I leave.
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Strawberry
| Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 4:13 pm
I went and saw it last night at 8 pm. The 7 pm one was sold out! And I went to buy my tickets 2 days in advance...go figure. Anyway, I knew nothing about the LOTR until last year when the 1st movie came out. I decided to go and see what all the hubub was about. I LOVED it! It was amazing. I didn't know any of the story line so that was a little confusing. We went to Borders after the movie last year and found some books about the movie and started reading some background info on it. I was amazed at all the stuff that is out there about this movie. I still haven't read any of the books. I just want to see the movies and after I watch them all I think I'm going to read the books. Last night, I went and saw Two Towers. I wasn't all that impressed with the story line. It really didn't seem to have one. It was alot of subplots going on at once and it was a little hard to follow (this is where I think reading the books would have come in handy). I missed some of the dialog in the movie because they had it so loud in there and the theater was packed out. The Ents were extremely cool. I didn't even know what they were until I saw them in the movie. Treebeard was really cool. I liked it when he was carrying around Merry and Pippin. Gollum was amazing too. His conversations with himself were the best. Peter Jackson did a good job on that IMO. Aragorn/Viggo was great again! It seemed like he was featured more in this film than the last one. I loved when he walked in and slammed the doors back! Awesome I don't really care for the Orcs. They are weird and ugly! I don't want to say too much because I don't want to spoil it for anyone else. It is a good film, but like was mentioned earlier...it was more of a story arch than a stand alone movie. All the fighting gets a little dull after awhile, but you know that it has to happen to get you through to the storylines for the 3rd movie! I can't wait until the next one comes out, but I did get a little sad at the end of the movie because I realized that the next one is it. And there is no more story left, except for the hobbit but that will go back in time! And yes Orlando is in this one alot more! Do ya think they did that for you Neko? hehe
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Ocean_Islands
| Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 8:10 pm
Ok, I saw the movie. I loved it but there's a lot to discuss. I liked the Ents and Gollum, but with such fantastic characters, everyone is going to be disappointed in some way, because your imagination is your own and it's not going to be appearing on the screen exactly like you imagined. The special effects are much more startling than I had expected. I can't imagine how they did some of those things. I'll have to see it a few more times to know what I really think about the movie. Since there are some things that are different, the first time is just getting acquainted with those differences so it's hard to judge them. Let me add that the flying Nazgul are awesome.
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Calamity
| Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 9:36 pm
Skipped 'Survivor' to see TTT tonight (I did see the vote & reunion!). Our theater was about 75-80% full. Occasional inappropriate giggling from some teen girls behind us but all in all, everyone was quiet and into the film. Few quick thoughts: I do agree that, unlike FotR, this one could be a bit confusing for people who haven't read the book(s). Not hopelessly confusing, it's just that a lot of background info was left out. The short jokes kinda wore thin for me after a while. But Legolas & Gimli's other banter was pretty funny. I was disappointed that they didn't show more of the Ents - what we saw was impressive though. I love Pippin (he's my favorite Hobbit in the books) and Merry and was hoping they'd get more screen time in this movie but it didn't work out that way. Legolas makes an extremely impressive move to mount a galloping horse. Made me sigh, for sure. I thought I saw Peter Jackson as an extra at Helm's Deep but it was so quick I'm not sure. Have to say, I'm relieved Shelob isn't in this film. I still haven't completely recovered from Aragog in 'Chamber of Secrets' . Elijah Wood does a good job at conveying Frodo's growing weakness due to the Ring's influence. I plan to see this again! Again, the changes from the book really don't bother me at all.
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Calamity
| Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 10:25 pm
I forgot - In the first movie, they never really established Stryder before he was revealed to be Aragorn. I thought this made the character not as mysterious and intriguing as he is in the books. But he did seem to be a bit more complex this time around, yea! Oh, they're repeating the 'Charlie Rose' interview with Elijah, Peter, and Viggo (in his "No more blood for oil" shirt) on PBS right now.
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Neko
| Friday, December 20, 2002 - 10:07 am
Of course they did it for me Strawberry!! Everyone *luuuuuuuuuuuuvs* me!
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Yankee_In_Ca
| Friday, December 20, 2002 - 12:00 pm
Oh, yeah, Calamity -- that horse mounting scene with Legolas!! That was great -- I think I even said "wow" out loud!
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Hermione69
| Friday, December 20, 2002 - 2:34 pm
I might have to go see this this weekend, hearing loss and all. I can't stand having to wait another month or so for captioning!!
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