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Archive through December 10, 2003

The TVClubHouse: Archives: Movies & Library 2003 -2004: Movies: May 2003 - April 2004: Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King: Archive through December 10, 2003 users admin

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Midlifer

Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 12:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hey! Has anybody seen the cover of this week's Newsweek! Great coverage, especially the article about the bloopers in the first 2 movies.

Hermione69

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 11:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Midlifer wants Aragorn. She has it bad.

Midlifer

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 11:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
No, I don't have it bad, I WANT it bad.

And...looks who's talking, oh, one-with-Aragorn's-picture-over-her-desk?????

Hermione69

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 11:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Excuse me? I don't have A PICTURE of Aragorn over my desk.

(I have TWO!)

Midlifer

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 11:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I stand corrected. Are we the only ones on this thread, the only ones who CARE about this movie????

Hermione69

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 11:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
No, there is quite a LOTR fan club here. Webkitty, Moondance, among others.... They will come....

Spygirl

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 12:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am counting down the days!!! MORE ARAGORN!!!

Mocha

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 1:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Aragorn is hot but I really love the elf. He's hot.

Yankee_In_Ca

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 2:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I cannot WAIT to see this movie. In fact, we already bought tickets to the 8PM December 17 screening, and plan to line up 2 hours before to get good seats with our four buddies.

Our apartment building has a mini-theater you can rent, and we've rented it for Sunday 12/14 -- we're having a Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers showing and party for our friends, and then six of us are going to the premiere on the 17th!

I. CANNOT. WAIT. TO. SEE. THIS. MOVIE!!!!

Djgirl

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 2:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Here you go girls - just for Hermi, Milifer, & Spy:

Aragorn

Djgirl

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 3:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
BTW, did anyone see the Dateline special last night that focused on Return of the King??? It was great!

Time to go home - but hopefully I'll have the computer at home this weekend, so I'll be back to chat later!
Deej

Neko

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 7:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ahhh..Orlando...
*Pass out in happiness*

We're (The whole family) going to see it on the 19th.
It's probably going to be packed as heck but whatever.
Anything for LOTR!!


**Can't wait**

Reiki

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 7:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I have taken the day off from work the last 2 years on the opening day. I had planned to do so this year, but I changed my plans to go to NYC that Thursday night, so I will hopefully be seeing the movie Thursday night in Manhattan. I look forward to experiencing it with a New York crowd.

I will tell you all that as someone who has read and loved the books more than half of my life, I will be disappointed in what is missing or changed in the movie. I'm not a purist, it's just that expectations are so high. Just as I am thrilled by the things they got sooo right I will be disturbed by the things that strike a discord.

I have found that once I watch the extended version on DVD I am able to enjoy them so much more as a movie.

I would be interested to know if anyone has been brought to the books through the movie and if so what your impressions are of both.

Ketchuplover

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 8:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I've heard that the teaser for Spider-Man 2 will be attached :)

Hermione69

Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 7:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Reiki, I have read and loved the Hobbit, but not the trilogy itself. I bought the trilogy to read about a year ago, but decided to wait until I had seen all three movies because, like you, when I love a book so much, my expectations for the movie tends to be so high that there is no way it can measure up. So I figured since I had started the movie trilogy and loved it, I would rather just enjoy it on its own merits rather than go read the books and create expectations. As much as I love the Harry Potter movies, I still tend to pick them apart in comparison to the books, and there is no way they will ever measure up to the books!

DEEJ! Thanks for the picture! How ARE you? I emailed you awhile back. Did you ever get it? Not from the Bookcrossing address, but anther one after the fiasco where I lost that really long email from Bookcrossing, LOL!

You guys enjoy the movie when it finally comes out. I don't know what I am going to do about seeing it. Since I haven't read the books, I am not familiar enough with the story to follow it without caption the way I can a Harry Potter movie, and so much of the story is told in narration and I miss all that. When FOTR came out, the open caption version came to my city very quickly and I got to see it in mid-December 2001. But then when TT came out, the open caption version did not come to my city until THREE AND A HALF MONTHS AFTER the release of TT. I didn't get to see it until the tail end of March 2003. I don't want to wait that long for the ROTK!

Reiki

Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 10:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well that just stinks Hermi that you had to wait that long!

One of the things that I love most about DVDs is being able to use the captioning. I find that there are things I didn't hear correctly or didn't pay close attention to when just listening to it.

Thanks for your comments regarding the books/movies. I did the same thing with the Harry Potter movies. I saw the first 2 movies before I even dared to crack open the books. I have since read them all and can't wait for the next book and the next movie!

Djgirl

Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 10:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Reiki, I read the trilogy after I first watched FOTR and truly enjoyed them. I think I had put off reading them for so long since they were my brother's favourite books and we very, very rarely like the same things.

I too get disappointed with the omissions and creative license taken, however I am astounded at the lengths that Peter Jackson has taken to stay as close to the story as he can. The Dateline special really put a lot of things in perspective, especially the Aragorn/Arwen storyline since it was basically an appendix in the trilogy. One thing that PJ stated was that no matter the special effects, no matter how great the storyline is, without a romantic story it wouldn't have worked.

Hermi - I'm soooooooooooo sorry I haven't gotten back to you - I'll explain it all to you this week in an email!!! :)

Midlifer

Monday, December 08, 2003 - 8:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hey, Herm, we obviously AREN'T alone!!!! Hooray for other LOTR fans! You'll probably see it before I do, since I plan to wait until Christmas vacation. No spoilers, please!

Reiki

Monday, December 08, 2003 - 10:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I got a nice surprise this weekend when I watched my Pirates of the Caribbean DVD (co-starring the luscious Orlando Bloom). They had a preview for the movie Hildago starring our very own Viggo! So I got another dose of Aragorn and Legolas. That was one preview that I didn't mind sitting through. I even rewound and watched it over again.

Calamity

Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 12:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
We saw the special extended version of FotR yesterday (Monday, that is). Not a big crowd at all. Probably don’t need to say this but the added footage was wonderful. It was very long though and the SE of TTT will be longer still. Even though the movies are so beautiful and exciting, I can’t help thinking that it will be tough for some folks to make it through those two and still be alert for RotK on Trilogy Tuesday. I can just imagine someone passing out and missing the third film after 7+ hours of movie-watching.

Reiki: I remember seeing a trailer for Hidalgo before PotC this summer and thought it looked great too. About the books – my dad read Tolkien’s “Smith of Wooten Major” and The Hobbit to me when I was a little kid and I simply fell in love with those stories. He also had a Lord of the Rings jigsaw puzzle and I remember him telling me about parts of that epic while we worked on the puzzle together. A few impressions I recall from back then: I was highly indignant that Bilbo wasn’t the main character in LotR; I thought Middle-Earth was a real place and existed, well, in the middle of the Earth, underneath our world on the surface; and I felt very sorry for Gollum (dad told me what happens to him at the end).

Now my dad didn’t tell me the whole story…just parts that he liked and thought were appropriate for someone my age, I guess. Except he did tease me about Shelob because I was terrified of spiders as a kid! Anyway, he talked about the Ents, Tom Bombadill, a little about Gandalf. He always said he liked Sam better than Frodo which simply reinforced my opinion that Bilbo should have been the hero again. He also told me about Stryder and the Rangers but never bothered to mention Aragorn which explains why I didn't know who the heck the “King’ in the title “The Return of the King” referred to until I finally started reading FotR on my own and figured it out. (I actually thought it had something to do with religion.)

Despite all that prep work by my dad, I didn't pick up LotR until just a few months before the first movie came out. I was reading FotR when Sept. 11 happened and the book was one of my refuges. Anyway, I was stunned to discover how much more there was to the story. It was distressing to learn how Gollum got the Ring though. I actually felt a bit betrayed - all those years feeling sorry for him and it turns out he was a murderer?!

It's funny because while I can be a bitterly unforgiving purist when it comes to some book-to-movie translations, in other cases I don't mind changes. Fortunately for me, Peter Jackson's vision of LotR falls in the latter category. While there are some parts that I wish had been included and some of the characterizations seem "off" to me, for the most part I have been deeply impressed. Heck, possibly the most controversial change led to one of my very favorite scenes in the movie series - Arwen's rescue of Frodo.

It sort of reminds me of Angels in America - while I never saw it on Broadway, I have read the first part ("Millenium Approaches"). Watching the HBO movie Sunday night, I was struck at how well it "fit" my mental impression of the play. And there were some parts that were even more amazing than I had imagined.

P.S. Can you request your local movie house to order an open caption copy of the film in advance so you don't have to wait too long to see it? I guess that's probaly not too practical seeing as it comes out next week though. I'll cross my fingers that luck will be with you though!

Reiki

Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 12:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hey Calamity! Wow - another person who has read some of the Professor's lesser known works. LOL. I read the Hobbit first and then the LOTR when I was a young teenager and I loved them so much I pretty much hunted down everything else I could get my hands on by Tolkien. I did my senior English term paper on him.

In addition to LOTRs, the Hobbit and the afore mentioned "Smith of Wooten Major" there is "Farmer Giles of Ham", "The Adventures of Tom Bombadil and Other Verses" (where Tom and Old Man Willow make their first appearances), "Tree and Leaf" - a short story and a lecture on Faery stories by JRRT, his translation of the Old English epic, "Sir Gawain and the Green Knight", and "The Father Christmas Letters" which are letters and pictures that Tolkien left for his children every Christmas. There is also "The Silmarillion" which in its unfinished form predates the Hobbit and LOTRs and contains the history of Middle Earth primarily from the perspective of the Elves. The published book was edited by JRRTs son Christopher and published after the Professor's death. It is not an easy read. It's very much like reading a history book. There is no one linear story. I like it because it contains so much of the backstory to the LOTRs.

I wonder if the puzzle you did was the same one I had. It was a picture of the Professor smoking a pipe - looking very Hobbitish in a tweed waistcoat.

I didn't mind the changes that brought Arwen to Frodo at the Fiord. I understand why Jackson didn't want to introduce the never seen again Glorfindal. I do wish that Frodo could have a larger part in the confrontation with the Nazgul. And I don't mind that the film leaves the impression that it was Arwen who summoned the white horses in the water. I know that it was Ulmo lending aid to Gandalf and Frodo.

If you want to know who Ulmo is or why Glorfindal is a very special elf, read the Silmarillion. :)

Hippyt

Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 1:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ulmo,is he red and furry?

Reiki

Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 1:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL Hippy!

Yankee_In_Ca

Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 2:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Viggo alert -- on the cover of Vanity Fair's January issue!

Denecee

Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 2:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
We have started a tradition of going to the movies on Christmas after dinner and last year we seen The Two Towers and this year The Return of the King. I also loved the Hobbit in book form but not the cartoon movie. I read the trilogy years ago and think they have done a great job especially in the extended versions.
Love that Aragorn!