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Hermione69

Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 9:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hey Webkitty, I have been working on a major project for my school for two days now and have only posted a couple of time recently because of how much of my time this project is claiming, but I wanted you to know I will repond to your posts ASAP. :)

Calamity

Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 1:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
****Spoilers & Speculation****

Webkitty: I haven't kept up my HP obsession for a couple years now so I'm kinda rusty. But I remember when 'Goblet of Fire' was first released there were some lengthy debates on whether Percy's ambition might lead to him becoming a traitor. Some people thought that was just too obvious while others insisted that the dramatic possibilities were too rich for Rowling not to do it. There were even some fans who theorized that Ron would one who might betray Harry out of jealousy. All I know is that the Weasley family is too darn big and too beloved by fans for something shocking not to happen to them. Sniff.

Neville's another one who was tagged as a possible traitor but that was before GoF was out and people learned what happened to his parents. He's a sentimental favorite of mine and I do hope he gets a chance to shine in the final books. I recall being suspicious of Seamus but I can't remember why anymore!

Oooo...I can't wait to begin re-reading these books! It's been so long.

Neko

Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 2:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I have GoF, PoA, and PS/SS waiting for me at the libary..
So Saturday, I'll be reading them all together in order because I already have CoS here at home.

Go me..

LOL
Oh, and the Chamber of Secrets movie rocks...
Just getting back to the topic at hand LOL

Webkitty

Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 3:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Not Ron!! He and Harry DID have a falling out in GoF, ummmmmmm.
Calamity, do you think Ron and Hermione will end up together in the end? He seemed to be jealous of Krum.

Yay Neko!!!
Your right, I think I have hijacked this thread and should probably be taking about speculation for the next book in THAT thread, oops!

Hermione, no problem, I saw your post in your folder and now I feel bad for badgering you

Schoolmarm

Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 8:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
For some reason, I don't think that Snape is as bad a guy as Harry and others think he is.

Percy on the dark side? Now that would be interesting.

I thought that the ending of movie 2 made it seems that Ron and Hermione have a little school crush going becuase they didn't hug, but got that uncomfortable "hand shaking" thing....

I would like to know more about Neville. And also Harry's parents, especially his mother.

There's got to be more to Dumbledore than we know, too!

Webkitty

Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 9:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Marm, I agree about Dumbledore! The time has come to spill the beans on him.
Maybe in the next book, The Order of the Phoenix, he will be revealed as the leader of it. And I would like to know just how old Dumbledore really is.
Fawkes has to play a part somewhere in there too. His tailfeathers were the ones that went into Harry and Voldemorts wands. I am also curious to know just how old Fawkes is. I mean, he's a phoenix, he keeps being reborn, so he could be as old as the school, right?

I would be disapointed if there was no dramatic revelation about Dumbledore. Like, he was just an ordinary wizard teacher who made headmaster. That would never do!

Crazydog

Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 12:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
According to TVGuide.com, Michael Gambon has indeed been cast as the new Dumbledore. But I thought I had read about previous denials on his part.

Hermione69

Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 1:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm starting a "Goblet of Fire" thread in the library. Anyone who goes into a GoF thread should already have read the first 3 books so I don't think we need to worry about spoilers. I never received another response about the Harry thread, so I am just going to do this so we can discuss the earlier books. I hope to have energy to post later. I'm a little distracted right now! :)

Calamity

Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 3:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
My favorite "way out there" theory about Dumbledore was that he was a House Elf who transfigured into human form. (I wasn't the one who dreamed this idea up, by the way!) Something about how House Elves are so magically strong which would explain Dumbledore's great power and also why he pictured himself holding a sock in the Mirror of Erised. It sounds crazy and then you start thinking about it and it starts to actually seem plausible. Just for the record, I don't think it's true but it is a funny example.

There's got to be more to Snape's story or I'll be seriously disappointed.

Webkitty: oh boy, the Ron & Hermione shipper debate. I have no idea whether Rowling's going to write a relationship between any of the main trio but in GoF it did seem that there was a new spark to Ron & Hermione's spats and comments about each other.


Thanks for the new thread, Hermione69. I'll post over there from now on but I just wanted to finish this conversation first.

Yankee_In_Ca

Friday, February 21, 2003 - 12:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
New Dumbledore Chosen!!

http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Movies/02/21/potter.gambone.ap/index.html

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- "Harry Potter" has a new schoolmaster: Michael Gambon.

The Irish-born actor is replacing Richard Harris, who died last year, as Albus Dumbledore in the third installment of the "Harry Potter" series, Warner Bros. announced Friday.

"Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban" is filming in England, and Gambon's casting had been a closely guarded secret. Others mentioned as possible candidates for the role included Christopher Lee, Ian McKellen and Peter O'Toole, who had a longtime friendship with Harris.

Gambon, 62, is best known for his roles as the wealthy murder victim in 2001's "Gosford Park" and the sinister landowner in 1999's "Sleepy Hollow." He also starred as President Lyndon Johnson in the 2002 TV movie "Path to War."

Harris, who died in October at 72, was best known for playing combative, iconoclastic characters in films such as "This Sporting Life," "Unforgiven" and "A Man Called Horse." (full story)

He took the role of the gentle, professorial old wizard in the "Harry Potter" films because a young granddaughter was a fan of the books.

Although Harris, who was born in Ireland, had signed to appear in the third film, his health began to fail shortly after he completed work on the second movie in the series, "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets."

Warner Bros. also announced that Gary Oldman would play the "Prisoner" of the title, a mysterious character named Sirius Black who escapes from the magical prison of Azkaban and seems to be stalking Potter and his friends.

Worldwide sales of J.K. Rowling's first four "Harry Potter" books top 190 million copies, and the upcoming fifth installment, "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix," is set to hit bookstores June 21 with a first printing of 6.8 million.

The film version of "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone" collected $317.5 million at the domestic box office, while last fall's "Chamber of Secrets" has earned about $260.5 million.

Faerygdds

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 9:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I haven't read this whole thread yet... boy you guys really get into it (as in long posts)...

I am an avid Harry Potter reader. I have picked apart all 4 books and actually have a notebook of timelines, theories, and evidence (I have no life :)). Anyway. I read an online interview with Rowling that said (SPOILER WARNING) that someone dies in the 5th book... a beloved character... and she had a hard time finishing the book because the loss of this character coincided with the loss of her Mother. All I can say is I PRAY it's not Mrs. Weasley! I love her!!!

Will write more when I finish the thread... but that's why book 4 took so long to get out. It wasn't just the plot holes that worried her -- it was an emotional block. :(

Faerygdds

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 10:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Heading over to the Library... can't wait to discuss the books... I guess I'm just a Potterhead myself! :) :) :)

Lycanthrope

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 8:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I almost messed up and posted this in the Library section of this site, but here is an article I found on SciFiWire regarding the new Prisoner of Azkaban film:

12:00pm ET, 28-July-03

Azkaban Is Darker

Newsweek reported that the upcoming third Harry Potter film, The Prisoner of Azkaban, will be darker than its predecessors, owing to new director Alfonso Cuarón (A Little Princess). "Alfonso is much more gritty than Chris [Columbus] ever was," star Emma Watson (Hermione Granger) told the magazine. "He's really into the idea that [shooting] should be fluid and natural. People can be eating an apple during a take."

Among other things, the film will feature the soul-sucking dementors, who guard Azkaban Prison, the magazine said. Cuarón's design team promises that the movie's palette will reflect the gathering darkness. For Hogsmeade, set designer Stuart Craig labored to avoid a "pretty, chocolate-box" village, creating a main street that swerves zanily. Honeydukes, the candy store, is floor-to-ceiling psychedelia. And, the magazine reported, Cuarón has reimagined the role of Professor Dumbledore after Richard Harris' death. British actor Michael Gambon now plays the Hogwarts headmaster as an elegant old hippie, Newsweek reported. Azkaban will hit theaters June 4, 2004.

Tashakinz

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 8:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Dumbledore - a hippie?!? How dare they!! Richard Harris must be rolling over in his grave.

Kimmo

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 1:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I wonder what Newsweek means by "playing as" a hippie. Certainly not that he dresses like one! I hope...Makes me want to re-read the books (yet again) and see where that comes from!

I'm still really looking forward to seeing how #3 turns out. I am just glad Chris Columbus is hands-off on this one!

Djgirl5235

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 10:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I thought that Richard Harris played Dumbledore a little to straight-laced - and Dumbledore's a nutter in the books - that could be what they meant...

Jeep

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 10:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm really looking forward to this movie, but I'm really not sure if I want to see or hear people crunching on apples while listening to another person talk.

And making Dumbledore a hippie! I agree that Richard Harris is rolling over about now. I hope they make him better than it sounds.

Kimmo

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 1:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
DJ, I also thought Dumbledore was boring (kind of "square" and more "typical wizard" than the books intended) in the first two movies. No disrespect to Richard Harris, I think it's a matter of the direction. So I'm glad for the change (in direction, not the absence of Mr. Harris. Obviously he in life and film has played great non-square, interesting characters)!

But elegant old hippie...That sounds a little fey to me, and I don't think Dumbledore was that. That's what makes me want to go back and re-read!

Yankee_In_Ca

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 4:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm going to irk some people here probably, but I'm really looking forward to seeing the next film -- and hoping that it does have a different feel than the last 2.

And most of all, I hope that they've gotten Daniel Radcliffe (sp?) acting lessons. I'm sorry, he seems likeable enough, but the kid's only got one expression -- wide eyed with his mouth open. I'm scared -- same expression! I'm surprised -- same expression! I'm concerned -- same expression! I'm happy -- same expression but with the teensiest uplift of the corners of the mouth!

There, now I've gone and done it. And only a day after I said I wasn't going to post anymore! :)

Kimmo

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 1:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yankee, I share your feelings about hoping #3 is a departure-- I am not a Chris Columbus fan, and in the first movie, I felt like things that made me really "connect" with the books (the way the awkwardness and anxieties of plain growing up, then of growing up as unique/special/a loner), were absent in favor of the "it's cool to be a wizard" one-dimensional focus.

I didn't even watch the second movie for fear/ anticipated boredom of more of the same. #3 is my favorite book in the series and to me is the heart of Harry-- Even if the Dumbledore characterization Cuaron is doing sounds a little off, in general it seems like he is going to do more justice to the otherness and other elements that make the series special.

However, both "A Little Princess" and "Great Expectations" were kind of "stylish remakes/ updates" of classic books. They're very different on the surface from the originals, so it makes me nervous that Cuaron will make these stylized surface changes to "put his stamp" on #3 (like the Dumbledore and "psychedelic" references seem to suggest).

Calamity

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 1:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I’m intrigued by Cuarón’s vision for the PoA movie. Sounds like it might be a real trip!

The movie version of CoS was a great improvement over the first film, imho, but that was mainly due to Kenneth Branagh and Jason Isaacs’s impressive turns as Lockhart and Lucius Malfoy, respectively. I’m sorry to say that I never cared for Richard Harris’ portrayal of Dumbledore. No disrespect intended, but he seemed too frail for the part.

Here’s a few pics from the PoA movie:

PoA pics I
PoA pics II

Faerygdds

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 3:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
FYI,... Columbus is still producing PoA... he's just not directing AND producing it.
FWIW

Kimmo

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 5:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, I knew he was still behind the scenes as a producer. I think Chris Columbus knows he does not have the "skills" (can't think of a better word) or sensibility to pull off #3....

So he steps back with the excuse of "I've got to take care of my kids" and then says he might come back and do #4. I wish he would just admit he doesn't have the chops for something as potentially "great" as #3.

(Hope it doesn't offend anyone that I keep referring to PoA as #3, it's just faster to type. :))

Not1worry

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 7:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Okay, I had to return the Chamber of Secrets DVD before I finished it. Who was the heir? Basically what happened after Harry heard all those weird voices and his pals told him maybe he was the heir? Feel free to post in my folder (although you'd probably have to make me one again) if you don't want to spoil the end for someone.

Jedisan

Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 10:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Kimmo, have you ever read the books by Laurell K. Hamilton?
I had never heard the word "fey" before until I read her books (i am on #2 now). I thought she made that word up. LOL!
But I did look the word up in Websters, and by golly, there it is.
(feeling stupid now...)