Star Wars - Episode II - Attack of the Clones **** Spoiler
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Star Wars - Episode II - Attack of the Clones **** Spoiler
Weinermr | Friday, April 26, 2002 - 04:10 pm     My gosh, I can hardly wait for this one to come out! May 16! (my sister's birthday) |
Webkitty | Friday, April 26, 2002 - 04:24 pm     I can't wait either! So many good ones coming out this summer. ~Happy B-Day to Weiners sister~ |
Gail | Friday, April 26, 2002 - 04:36 pm     I'm anxious for it too! |
Flint | Friday, April 26, 2002 - 06:34 pm     What do you think of the title? |
Weinermr | Saturday, April 27, 2002 - 03:37 am     Flint, in the first Star Wars movie (Star Wars - Episode IV - A New Hope) they referred to the "Clone Wars" - so I like the fact that GL is going back and filling in the pre-history by creating the "Clone Wars", whatever they will be, in this Episode 2. I don't want to know what the Clone Wars are or know what the "Attack" is all about until I see the movie - and then AFTER I see the movie I will seek out and soak up everything I can find about the back story and details about the movie, the making of the movie, etc., and will probably end up seeing the movie at least twice in the theater, probably more when it goes to video and/or DVD, and/or TV. On a separate note, I think Natalie Portman is enormously talented - if you haven't already seen Beautiful Girls you should watch it - she steals the movie. |
Flint | Saturday, April 27, 2002 - 04:54 am     Good points Weinermr, I was wondering how many others remembered the origins of the clone war. I read that a lot of people are pissy, mainly fanatics, because they feel the title makes it sound like a cheesy B movie. |
Twiggyish | Saturday, April 27, 2002 - 11:35 am     I can't wait to see it, too! |
Ocean_Islands | Saturday, April 27, 2002 - 01:11 pm     Is it just me, or does anyone else get irritated at those fakey-looking plastic headed monsters and aliens that seem to have escaped from a halloween costume factory in all the Star Wars movies? Why doesn't someone tell Lucas to at least try to make them realistic? |
Sia | Saturday, April 27, 2002 - 01:37 pm     Hello, OI. I haven't seen the trailers yet for the new "Star Wars" film, so my comment is a bit OT, but what irks me is that most aliens are so phallic-looking! I mean, what'supwiththat? Remember "Aliens" and how the slimy, goo-dripping, serpentine alien with enormous, sharp, gnashing teeth leapt out of nowhere to threaten heroine Ripley--and then a smaller, equally grotesque duplicate of itself came from the mouth of the original alien? Seems like just about every sci-fi movie and TV series (e.g., "X-Files") copies this in the exact same way. When will TPTB get a clue that this format is tired and has been done to death? Thanks for the platform, OI; this issue has bugged me for YEARS!! |
Gail | Saturday, April 27, 2002 - 01:37 pm     It must be just you. I love those fake plastic heads!! (just kidding) |
Mssilhouette | Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 11:40 pm     Well I think Lucas has to go with the same type of aliens he made in the first Star Wars. Phallic looking and all. I don't mind the ALiens so much, at least the female lead gets to kick butt too. Of course before that happens she has to have about 6 costume changes. It's a trade off, at least she's a Queen or a Princess, in authority. I have to give it to Lucas for that. The lead women have always kicked butt, even when being rescued. Now as for most Sci-Fi movies or shows snatching that lovely HR Gigier creature, well can you blame them, nothing like it has ever been made before, it's a complete original, and completely scary! LOL And you can't get any more phallic looking than that Alien. In fact most of the man's work has under and overtones of sexuality with creepiness. Anyhoo, it'll take a while for someone else to design something new. By the way OI how does one make an Alien realistic? LOL |
Weinermr | Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 09:31 pm     I saw this movie today. I never thought I'd see it so soon, and not on premier day. I have to admit I'm totally sucked into the Star Wars universe, and have a complete emotional commitment to this epic saga. Lord of the Rings means nothing to me. These characters are achingly real to me. I've read the reviews, heard the criticisms, the carping, the inadequacies. I don't care. The movie exceeded my expectations, and I have high expectations. I loved it. A more descriptive review is beyond me right now. It's emotional impact is far more important than anything else. I liked it, I liked it! Only 3 more years until Episode 3! |
Mssilhouette | Friday, May 17, 2002 - 11:57 am     Okay I haven't seen it yet but I was awakened at 3am PST by my boyfriend who saw it at nearly 1am EST. Now mind you I did leave a message on his cell phone to give me a call when he got in..but wow, he was SO excited about this movie!! Which I expected but I kept laughing at him saying that are you sure you went to the movies cause you sound like you just had the best..ummm err sex of your life. LMAO! I call him Geekboy in a loving way because I know he's a Sci Fi nut (well so am I, actually) specifcally when it comes to Star Wars...well Lucas actually. So for about an hour and half I listened to him tell me how good it was but I wouldn't allow him to tell me about the movie plot which was killing him. LOL So for my boyfriend, it got great reviews! In his words it is a multi layered movie that pretty much ties everything together and you understand why Episode 1 was the way it was. He also gave much praise to the actor who played Anakin. He wants me to see it as soon as possible and for fun I told him I would wait until next week. He TOLD me I HAD to see it Monday at the latest. I'll probably see it sooner than that but I like to have fun with him. So it looks like the fans are giving it high thumbs up |
Rissa | Friday, May 17, 2002 - 03:22 pm     I can jump in with another endorsement too !! Just saw it this afternoon with my 6 year old. Short, short version.... awesome beginning, dragged a bit for the middle, awesome ending. Don't want to give anything away but there are two battle scenes at the end that were worth the price of admission on their own. The part of the movie that left me flat was the budding romance (which isn't a secret, not giving anything away). Acting was flat and dialogue was sophmoric.. but by the end all that is forgiven. Might not live up to Episode 4 but was certainly better than Phantom and well worth the money. P.S. Six year loved it too. |
Nancy | Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 11:39 am     i just came back from seeing this and it was amazing--special effects--rissa yeah i was like ho hum on the budding romance portion- |
Weinermr | Sunday, May 19, 2002 - 08:41 am     Glad you liked it Rissa and Nancy. Gail, when you get to see this movie, please share what you think of it! |
Kaili | Sunday, May 19, 2002 - 07:34 pm     I saw it tonight (with just barely enough time to get home for Survivor)... I also loved it. The romance, I agree it was sort of blah. To not spoil it for anyone, I will just say that my own favorite part involved Yoda and I'm sure those who saw it will know exactly what I mean. |
Muse | Monday, May 20, 2002 - 12:36 am     Okay, I have to say I didn't really like it all that much. I didn't dislike it, but I wasn't particularly impressed, either. Of course, to be fair, I must say that I thought it was *much* better than Phantom Menace, which I didn't care for at all. And it's hard for either movie to begin to compare to the original trilogy, IMHO. Reasons why I didn't like it...like Phantom Menace, I felt like the characters weren't fully developed. Or maybe they're just not likable or "real" to me. I'm not sure. I just don't get emotionally invested in them like I feel like I should. Most of the movie is battle scenes or just plot (discussion of the politics and what's going on, basically), and most of the rest is the blah love story. And I dislike Amidala. I feel like they tried to make her seem a little more tough in this movie, but I just didn't buy it. Maybe Natalie Portman is a good actress in other things (I really haven't seen her in much besides PM and AoTC), but I don't buy her in this. The other actors are okay...like I thought Hayden Christianson was fine. I agree about there being too much (fake-looking) digital stuff, although I suppose it could've been worse. And I felt that the movie dragged a bit. That being said, there was some stuff I liked about it... Ewan MacGreggor was great. I wanted more Obi Wan and less Anakin, and not just because I think Ewan's cute. I also thought some of the battle scenes were very good. There was very little Jar Jar! lol... Um, and yes. Yoda. Yay! Ooh, and I liked the line Obi Wan had towards the beginning to Anakin. Very funny. Overall - I enjoyed seeing it once. But I don't have any desire to see it again. |
Mssilhouette | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 11:07 am     I've finally seen in and in digital which was EXTREMELY NICE! I also happend to catch the trailer for The Matrix: Reloaded which looked great. Then after seeing the movie I had to call my boyfriend because he had been holding in discussing the movie with me for 4 days. Boy he talks a lot!!! Anyhoo I told him this: I like it but I did see some flaws in it. My first postive was that the movie is a feast for the eyes it's got beautufl CGI settings, the planets the battles the aliens are very nice to look at. The bad side to that is that it is extremely LIGHT on the dialogue. I told my beloved that if I was deaf I could still follow the movie but if I was blind I wouldn't know what was going on, cept for a lot of music being played and a lot of shooting. I thought the decision to show the budding love affair was not the right choices. The rolling down the hill scene wasn't necessary. Anakin and Amadalia should have been talking and bonding as young adults since they hadn't scene each other since he was a child. Amadalia's feelings toward Anakin were way too quick and sudden since I felt she still needed to see him as a young man and not a boy. That wasn't really show. I mean one dinner and a roll down a hill means love? Ya okay. I also thought that you had to take the movie home in your brain and put togther the subplots and storyline because without seeing the first film and the past 3 you couldn't get ever little connecting that was made. I thought the movie wasn't exactly as dark as had been hyped. I thought that Lucas really relied too much on his CGI actors than the real ones. He had great actors there and really didn't do anyhting with them but put them in front of a green screen for the FX. It felt like talent was being wasted because all they did was react to whatever CGI moment was happening. So it was better than Episode I but not better than Empire Strikes Back, which by all accounts it should be. The best scene by far is with Yoda! WOOHOO that's worth all the other iffy crap to see that final 30.....well it's more like 15. All I will say is there is NO DOUBT why Yoda is a Jedi MASTER! I'd like to see that scene again but I won't sit through the rest of it for that. Sorry Yoda but you still ROCK! |
Weinermr | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 03:01 pm     MsSil, in order to make the love story more credible it helps me to believe in the power of destiny - the inevitablility of it all. That way, it doesn't all have to be explicit, and it doesn't have to make intellectual sense. For me, this belief in the power of destiny (which I do have in any case) makes the story that much more powerful. But that's just me. |
Weinermr | Monday, June 03, 2002 - 05:43 pm     Gail - Have you, will you, did you? |
Webkitty | Monday, June 03, 2002 - 06:01 pm     I saw this and I thought the love story was the best part. Hayden Christinsen was an excellent choice for young Anakin Skywalker. I could "feel" his passion for Amidala. (he put "the force" on her, lol) The special effects weren't too bad either I liked the tall skinny aliens the best. Overall, it was what I expected. I will venture into a little friendly ~differing of views~ with Mr Wiener and say that LOTR is MY universe!  |
Gail | Monday, June 03, 2002 - 06:03 pm     Not yet but I am dying to go. |
Grooch | Thursday, June 06, 2002 - 10:41 am     I pretty much agree with what Muse and MsS had to say. There were only two good actors in there. That was the guy playing Obi Wan (the older Jedi) and Yoda. They made me forget that they were actors reading a script. As to the others, I felt like they were just repeating their lines. And I think Samuel Jackson is a great actor. I don't know whether the dialoug was so bad that there was nothing they could do about it or maybe they aren't as good as I thought they were. Also, how come Anikan aged so much, but Natalie Portman looks the same exact age as the last movie. Shouldn't she have "aged" a few years also? I guess it is hard for me to get into the movie because I had a very hard time figuring out who was who in the first one and what was going on. And I still had a bit of that problem in this one, but not as bad. Who was the guy that wanted the clones and why? |
Weinermr | Thursday, June 06, 2002 - 12:37 pm     THE FOLLOWING IS A SPOILER Grooch, The creation of the clones was ordered by a Jedi who mysteriously died several years ago. But the mastermind behind the plot is Supreme Chancellor Palpatine – the man who was Senator Palpatine in Episode One. The supposed plan is that the Jedi need the Clone Army to protect and defend the alliance, but what everyone doesn’t know (yet) is that Palpatine is really a Dark Lord of the Sith, and is maneuvering events so that the Clone Army becomes (in Episodes IV, V, and VI) the Imperial Army. Palpatine becomes (later) the Emperor – the same Emperor that turns Anakin to the dark side to become Darth Vader – the same Emperor that eventually is destroyed by Darth Vader when Luke Skywalker in Episode VI turns his father back from the dark side. |
Kaili | Thursday, June 06, 2002 - 01:00 pm     Wasn't Yoda a computer animation throughout this whole movie? |
Grooch | Thursday, June 06, 2002 - 01:35 pm     Thanks, Weiner. I will have to study this. The first SW movies they made were so simple to follow. In this group of movies, they say a name once, and you are suppose to know who they are. Or that you have to read the book first. I never would have been able to understand Dune, if I hadn't read the book first. Now answer this, we didn't the princess get any older, but Anakin did? |
Weinermr | Thursday, June 06, 2002 - 02:16 pm     Grooch - They both aged 10 years from movie to movie. Anakin from 9 to 19, and Amidala from 14 to 24. In the next movie, they both will be even older. Natalie Portman, was 16/17 when they filmed Episode 1, and could "play" a 14 year old then, and an adult now in Episodes 2 and 3 (she is 21 in real life now). They could not use the same 9 year old boy to play the adult Anakin when in real life it was only 6 years later, so they hired a new actor, who could play Anakin at age 19, and will play him even older in the next movie. As you know, in real life, the difference between a 14 year old and a 9 year old seems alot greater than a 5 year old difference in grown adults. Therefore, the Anakin character seems to have aged alot more than the Amidala character. |
Webkitty | Thursday, June 06, 2002 - 02:19 pm     I bought it  |
Grooch | Thursday, June 06, 2002 - 02:24 pm     Thanks, again, Weiner! Where can I buy the book? I had no idea that Amidila was suppose to be 14 in the movie. |
Grooch | Thursday, June 06, 2002 - 02:25 pm     Weiner, didn't they film all 3 movies at the same time? |
Weinermr | Thursday, June 06, 2002 - 03:32 pm     Grooch, no, they film them one at a time. In fact, I think I read somewhere, that although George Lucas has the story for Episode III in his head, a screenplay hasn't been written yet. Star Wars: Episode II, Attack of the Clones is $15.60 at both Barnes and Noble and at Amazon |
Grooch | Thursday, June 06, 2002 - 05:14 pm     Thanks, Weiner. |
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