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TV ClubHouse: archive: Movies Feb-Aug 2002: MIB-2

Webkitty

Sunday, June 30, 2002 - 01:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm so excited I can hardly wait!
We are going to try and see it Wednesday.
But I won't go if its too crowded, that ruins it for me. (I know, I'm picky!)

Will report back

Oregonfire

Sunday, June 30, 2002 - 01:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, this is one that I'm going to regardless of having to go it alone. I'll be there--with bells on.

My only reservation is that they will cuten/sexify it too much, a la Return of the Jedi with those Ewoks all underfoot and a bikini-clad Prince Leia chained to Jabba. The first MIB was great without the talking dog having a big role or Lara Flynn Boyle as eye candy. (Though I think she's a great choice for this movie--is anybody else seriously scared of Lara Flynn Boyle? She's one tough lady.)

Webkitty

Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 05:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, I've been dragging my feet coming here to post.

Saw it today. It wasn't as good as the first one. If you didn't see the first one, then you will probably enjoy this. It wasn't bad, just no new fresh ideas.

I see a lot of movies, so I tend to be picky.

LFB was good as the evil alien, Will Smith was the star of the movie, Tommy Lee Jones seemed like he sleep walked through it, not much else happened.

The funny worm creatures returned with a bigger part, enjoyed them, Frank the dog had a bigger part too.

One thing, there was a wierd little cartoon movie spoofing Star Wars that was shown at the beginning. I have no clue what that was all about.
I don't THINK it was part of MIB, something seperate?
I'm curious to know if it was shown in other theaters.

Ketchuplover

Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 05:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wasn't in my theatre. I enjoyed the movie. Not enough to see it again though. My favorite part was the DAREDEVIL trailer. Totally awesome :)

Car54

Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 05:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just saw 2 reviews on the pre-primetime show biz shows...they both said you walk away humming the dog.

I am disappointed...I loved MIB!

Webkitty

Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 05:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ketchup, yes! The Daredevil trailer did look awesome!

Car, don't not go because of me, like I said, I'm picky.......but, the thing is that MIB (the first one) was so original, this was just, I don't know, nothing NEW, if you know what I mean.

The pug was ok, but not enough to overcome sequel blahs.

Kady

Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 09:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
We went to see it today. Webkitty, they showed that little cartoon at my theatre. We really enjoyed it, laughed alot. No great storyline, no great plot. It was just a good movie that children can enjoy with their parents. (Of course we always go to the $2 matinee, so it really doesn't matter if the movies are ever great.)

Muse

Thursday, July 04, 2002 - 10:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yep, I agree. It was okay, but the first MIB was better. I also felt that it dragged a bit up until the point where J and K are reunited. The chemistry between the two is what drives both movies, IMO.

My favorite part of the movie was the "ALL HAIL K!" bit. :)

Ophiliasgrandma

Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 03:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kady...$2 matinees for a first-run movie...I wanna live where you live.

Grooch

Monday, July 08, 2002 - 05:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
From the Kansas City Star:

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Screen Notes: Filmmaker's bit of `Blue' takes him to Cannes and beyond
By ROBERT W. BUTLER
The Kansas City Star

The best character in the new "Men in Black II" isn't played by Will Smith or Tommy Lee Jones or any other human actor.

Instead Frank the MIB agent is played by a pug dog, with a voice supplied by a human actor and just enough computer enhancement to make it appear that the pooch can talk and express human emotions.

All of which has the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals concerned. After the release of the original "MIB," in which Frank appeared briefly, pugs shot from the 28th most popular breed to 19th on the American Kennel Club list.

Anticipating a rush of buyers hoping to snap up cute pug puppies after seeing the sequel, the PETA folk last week sent a letter to Sony Pictures Entertainment CEO John Calley.

In the letter they requested that Sony add material to its Web site about animal overpopulation and links to pug rescue groups.

The problem, according to PETA, is that after seeing the film, thousands of American families will rush out to buy a pug just like Frank, not having thought through the responsibilities of pet ownership. Inevitably, they say, many of these animals will be abandoned or turned over to shelters when the thrill of having a dog in the house wears off.

Plus, PETA points out, pugs come with a whole slew of built-in handicaps:

"They must be indoor dogs. Vigorous exercise is out, and heat is dangerous for them because their squished faces make cooling down difficult. Pugs are prone to developing slipping kneecaps, hip dysplasia, progressive retinal atrophy (loss of vision in middle-aged dogs) and brain inflammation."

PETA bases its concern on past experience. After Disney released its live-action "101 Dalmatians" several years back, sales of Dalmatian puppies skyrocketed.

"Dalmatians have been pouring into shelters ever since," PETA claims.

Ideally, PETA says, Sony would put a disclaimer on its Web site encouraging prospective dog owners to adopt a dog already in a shelter, and to spay and neuter their pets.

Grooch

Monday, July 08, 2002 - 05:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I saw MIB II and I loved it, since I do have a pug. Once the pug part was over, I was waiting for the movie to end.

I do worry that people may want to get a pug because Frank was so cute in the movie.

Pugs are so unbelievably cute, but at the same exact time, they have a lot of quirks that might not fit into your lifestyle. So I am posting this just in case anyone might be thinking of getting one. And if you have any questions about pugs, feel free to email me about it. I can assure you that all these points listed below are very true.

THINK FRANK THE PUG IS SO UGLY HE'S CUTE?
THINK YOU'D LIKE TO GET A DOG "JUST LIKE FRANK"?


Thousands of pug dogs just like Frank end up as strays, in pounds or shelters, or are given up to rescue groups each and every year. Here are some facts that you should know about pugs before you make the decision to add one (or more) to your family.

1. Pugs require a lot of time an attention. Pugs were bred to be lap dogs and to keep people company. They want to be right next to you most of the time. If you do not want a dog that wants to be with you all of the time, don't get a pug.

2. Pugs cannot be kept as outside dogs. Because of their short noses, they are very sensitive to heat, humidity and cold. Pugs can die very quickly when exposed to extreme heat or cold so they cannot live outside or be left outside for any period of time unattended.

3. Pugs shed. A lot. Even though they have short hair, they have two coats, which means there is twice as much fur to come off. They also snort, sneeze, and snore. A lot. And they pass gas. And they never, ever say excuse me.

4. Small children and pugs are not a good combination. While pugs are not generally aggressive dogs, small children tend to be fascinated with their curly tails and bulging eyes. Pugs eyes very sensitive and easily injured, and having their tails pulled can make even the most easy-going pug snap at the person who is doing the pulling.

5. Pugs require some special care. See that cute little wrinkle over the pugs nose? Well dirt and moisture get in there and it can get infected. You need to clean the nose wrinkle daily. Ears need to be cleaned, nails clipped and often anal glands need to be "expressed" frequently or you may get "slimed" with foul smelling excretions when you least expect it.

6. Pugs can't go running, hiking or bicycling with you. Unless you put them in a little carrier not unlike a baby carrier and carry them on your chest. Again, because of the short nose, a pug cannot tolerate a lot of hard exercise like running and long hikes. You can usually take your pug on shorter walks when it is not too hot or humid outside.

7. Pugs have tendencies to develop certain physical problems. Every breed has problems that they are more prone to develop. With pugs it is eye problems (almost 1/2 or more of all pugs will need eye medicine at some point in their life), hip dysplasia, elongated soft palatte's, pinched or undersized nostrils, encephalitis, and problems with their legs.

8. Pugs are difficult to housebreak. Even older pugs who are technically housebroken and know where they are supposed to go, often still have accidents. That is just part of the "charm" of owning a pug.

9. Since pugs are getting so popular, I think I'll get a female and breed her. I can probably make some good money. First of all, you will most likely loose money breeding your pug. Before breeding your pug, you should have her tested for eye problems, hip problems, and thyroid. Then you have to pay a stud fee. Many pugs cannot give birth on their own, so a vet must do a caesarian section of the mother and you risk losing the mother and the puppies. You should be there around the clock at least for the first few weeks to make sure the puppies are staying warm (but not too warm), and that all the pups are getting to nurse. Some pugs are not very good moms, so you have to be there to feed the puppies by hand every two hours, so you might need to take off of work for a few weeks. Then there are vet check ups and certificates and shots for all the puppies. A reputable breeder does it to better the breed and for the love of the dog, not to make money.


Still interested in a pug? Great! Make sure you are willing to make a lifetime commitment to the dog you bring into your household. Pugs live on average, 12-14 years, but some live as long as 17 or 18. Will you still be willing and able to love and care for a pug 18 years from now?

Do your homework! Be sure to either adopt from a rescue organization or from a reputable breeder. Reputable breeders have almost always shown their pug to championship and tested for genetic disorders before breeding them. They will also have a life time warranty for any genetic health problems. They also do not advertise in their local papers. Puppies in pet shops come from puppy mills and backyard breeders and you may be buying a whole array of medical problems, in addition to contributing to the exploitation of often unhealthy dogs. A good breeder will interview you, the buyer, not just want your cash. If a breeder just wants the money for a pup and doesn’t care about you, walk away.

Some web sites to check out: www.pugs.org (the web site of the Pug Dog Club of America) www.akc.org, (the American Kennel Club)
Suggested reading: "Pugs" by Phil Maggitti, Pug Talk Magazine (www.pugtalk.com)

Squaredsc

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 05:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i loved mib2, and now i have to have that mercedes.