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Lancecrossfire

Friday, January 23, 2004 - 12:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Congrats Herckle!!!! I hope they make an offer to you!!:)

Kaili

Friday, January 23, 2004 - 8:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Legalboxer, good luck today!!! I hope your interview goes well. If all else fails, pull put your sword and tell them that you're a member of the 'swashbuckling elite"

Faerygdds

Friday, January 23, 2004 - 8:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    

Quote:

(Faerygdds, I think your multi-tasking talents are made for this!)




Naw.. the skills come in when I'm looking for the pic in one window on google, typing the e-mail in another, answering the phone at work (receptionist), sorting the mail that just came in and accepting packages/couriers that are coming in. And believe it or not... I was doing almost all those yesterday when I posted that pic. Today is quieter... zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Herckleperckle

Friday, January 23, 2004 - 4:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thank you, my life preservers!





Herckleperckle

Friday, January 23, 2004 - 4:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Now, Legal, it's my turn to spy on you. Where'd you hide?



Legalboxer

Friday, January 23, 2004 - 7:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
lol very cute HP

well i am back and i can officially say I HAVE NO IDEA!!!! For those who dont know my interview was with the Public Defenders Office, they have 4 openings for positions in their Children in Need of Assistance Unit and I have extensive background with children and families - just not post law school experience -

so i go meet with the hiring committee and they explain they are the first of 3 steps- they interview me and then "grade" me on my responses and then recommend me to the next level (or not) based on my grades... the next level is the director of the Unit i am applying for- if SHE wants to offer me a job after that 2nd interview, i then interview with the state public defender.. he has the final say in all hiring and likes to interview EVERY candidate himself and if he liked them, he offers the job on the spot..


so... realistically i have no worries if i get to the second or third levels.. i am good at interviews, especially one on one - i just dont know what they will do at this first level.. they were nice and friendly but also poker faces - and while i gave good answers it wasnt perfect - some answers were great but one question was a hypothetical on ethics in court and i havent studied ethics in 3 years and just blocked out legal answer- it was a decent response but probably the only one i didnt feel confident in answering -

in any event, they said the woman who is the head of the Unit wanted to interview right away and so i should hear either way in the next 2 weeks- i will feel alot better if i do get that second interview...

but that is about it... i hate when interviews are so questionable - much better if you know that feeling of great or terrible, versus no idea... :)

Rosie

Friday, January 23, 2004 - 7:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks for the update Legal and I wish you good luck for this job.

Egbok

Friday, January 23, 2004 - 7:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hey Legal, it's so interesting to hear about your job interviewing process and you sound so confident...but of course! Didn't you have a course in Confidence Building 101? LOL!!

I certainly wish you well and I'll be checking in here to see if you have any news to share. Good luck!!


Herckleperckle

Friday, January 23, 2004 - 7:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, I know you did well! I have no question in my mind, Legal, that they adored you.




What I dislike is the long, drawn-out layered interview process. It's understandable, but very difficult emotionally. The wait can be painful in the pocketbook area, too!

Just please keep us all informed HERE when you get the next call, okay? And, Legal, you will get that call!



Legalboxer

Friday, January 23, 2004 - 7:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks Rosie, Egbok and Herckle!

Sweetbabygirl

Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 9:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Herklekins, thanks for the beautiful picture and thoughts you put in my folder, I really appreciate it! As far as I'm concerned, you WILL get that Oxford job....IMO, they would never talk about benefits unless they had you foremost in their mind!!

I have been in a funk lately, which is why I haven't posted much....these friggin' temp agencies, despite claims that they should be hopping with assignments in January, have not been calling, despite my calling everyday to put myself on the availability list. If I didn't have bills and rent to pay, I wouldn't be so hyped but next month will be here before I know it. Also, I sent an e-mail yesterday to the lady I interviewed with 2 weeks ago....she sent me a response saying that they are still interviewing/testing and that she didn't forget me; as soon as a decision is made, she will contact me.

Frank has been trying to cheer me up, but it ain't working....just wanted to pop in and say I have my fingers crossed for all of you.

<runs crying from folder>

Rosie

Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 11:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Awwww SBG don't cry. This is the week-end and all job seekers should try to relax for at least a day or two. I know those darn interviews take a lot out of you.

On Monday, we can all rev up again..........



Herckleperckle

Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 11:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
SBG, I've been going at this for a long time and know exactly how you're feeling. It will eventually come out fine for you--I just know it.

You know, that was a very smart thing to call the company back; shows you have not only have interest but drive! And it helps make your name pop back up into the upper recesses of her memory banks!!

Did you ever send them a thank you note? It's never too late, IMO.

I'm pulling for you and know everyone else here is, too!!



Sweetbabygirl

Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 1:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks guys, you are very sweet.

Hercks, at the end of the interview, the lady gave me her e-mail address and phone number....although I don't believe in doing it, she said that it would be okay if I sent her an e-mail thank you note. Not only did I do that, but I left a recorded message.

Yesterday's e-mail was to let her know that I was still interested; I guess I'll know in the upcoming week or two.

Herckleperckle

Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 1:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well then you've done everything you can do. The rest is up to them and there's no sense fretting til things shake themselves out.

My dh keeps telling me to continue applying elsewhere; don't look back and don't even let yourself think that anything is going to work out. And he's sooo right. That way you won't waste precious time AND you won't lose it so badly if things don't turn out the way you hope.

But I'm keeping my fingers crossed that your next post here will be good news!



Lyra

Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 7:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
~~~ Sending good vibes to all job hunting folks ~~~

A question: If a job ad/description specifically says Please forward a resume and writing sample, do they not want a cover letter?

I typically write a cover letter for every application unless specifically asked not to, i.e. Please submit a resume only; would you interpret the above as one of these cases?

Teachmichigan

Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 8:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Lyra,

Since they didn't say NOT to, I'd send one...just in case. It might be a bit shorter than normal since you can include other details in your writing sample. JMO

Oregonfire

Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 8:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm looking for work too--and have even moved to Brooklyn (NYC adjacent) to do so. I rent a room from a Turkish couple and have my computer, a TV, and my freshly-bought shiny happy work clothes hanging in the closet to keep me company. Surprisingly I'm more content I've been in years, probably because the goal is so clear: Get a Job in Publishing. Thrive.

So far I've applied to all of these tantalizing editorial assistant jobs online, but no call backs. I'm doubling my efforts next week and will go to some temp agencies as well. I have about five months to make this work for me. I can always fall back on teaching if I am super desperate, and do currently teach online for a paltry sum. But I really want to get into publishing and am quietly confident that it will come my way.

Fellow searchers: I feel your pain and salute you!

An aside: I recently saw the movie "Working Girl" again on TV. I could really relate to the scene where Melanie Griffith is leaning on the railing of the Staten Island Ferry with the Statue of Liberty passing by in the background, all her hopes dashed after going for that Corner Office in the Sky. She got her mojo back. Why can't I?

Herckleperckle

Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 12:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Lyra, I agree with Teach on the cover letter. If no one else does, and you do, it will surely make you stand out from the crowd, as well.

Let us know what you decide to do and what happens with this particular application, okay?

Feel free to tell us a little more about yourself and what you're looking for. You'll find that there are people here who may have experience in the field you're pursuing--and can offer concrete tips about where to look or some do's and don'ts.

Oregonfire, my dd lives in the Clinton Hill area of Brooklyn! She loves it there.

About finding a job in publishing: I don't mean to put you off, but . . . do you know that in the 2 notebooks I keep of every job I ever applied to, I never got one real reply or interview, for that matter, with a publishing house?

I have a feeling that your pedigree (type of degree, name of school) is all-important to them. Of course, if you have contacts with anyone, that helps. At the time I came to CT, Reader's Digest was going through a major overhaul--and tons of jobs were available. I never got so much as a squeak from those guys. Of course, in this economy, they have an unbelievable array of applicants.

Alternatively, you could look into marketing communications. That's what I did years ago, and I think, depending upon your age (younger is better) and background (experience in the field), that you could find another career avenue.

Good luck and let us know how you are faring!



Oregonfire

Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 12:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks Herckle! I got a job as an editorial assistant very quickly the last time I was in NYC, so I guess I'm spoiled! I had hoped it would happen quickly this time too. I'm thinking about going to a temp agency that caters to the publishing field. I'm a relatively young-looking 33 yr-old, so I'm hoping that works for me.

I'll keep you posted! Good luck on your own search!

Herckleperckle

Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 1:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oregon, yw. Your young age, youthful looks and experience will help you for sure. I do hope you do find something in the field and think with those things going for you, you do have an edge. I am glad you've promised to keep us posted here, and I will look for your updates!

And thanks for your good wishes, too!!



Oregonfire

Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 3:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hi Herckle--it's too bad that age even factors into the equation. I have two friends who were editors at the publisher where I worked before, and they are both out of work! The carnage in publishing has been brutal, and we are all waiting for the upswing.

Well, I should be faxing my resume now. I hear you can fax online via the New York Times, so I'm going to give it a try. BTW, I saw a great editorial assistant job on NYtimes.com up your way--too far for me to commute, maybe I'll apply, not sure. But here is the link to the ad:

http://jobs.nytimes.com/texis/jobsearch/details.html?id=4011e1ad57c1290

Herckleperckle

Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 10:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks, Oregonfire!

You know, I drove right by The Taunton Press on my way to the Oxford interview the other day. That's funny. I just checked my notebook, and see I have never applied to that company.

I do not have any book editorial experience, as they prefer, but hey, I'll send them my resume anyway. See what happens! Better to keep steaming ahead without looking back, as I advised SBG.

If you haven't checked with Time Warner, Inc., yet, you can get on their email list for jobs that fit with your qualifications. I get emails from them constantly, with the name agentserver@brassring.com as the sender. If interested, you can also try the site called Journalism.org. I saw a job for Court TV.com as Senior Editor back in June, 2003, but never heard back from them.

Tabbyking

Monday, January 26, 2004 - 1:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
well, mine is just a little quandary compared to everyone else's!!
i need a job, at least parttime. we are just getting farther and farther behind having to find 14k a year for son's school and now adding my daughter to our insurance as a new driver (1,340/year). she will be looking for a job soon (just turned 16), but i really don't know where she'll find the time! she already has a very difficult class schedule, works saturdays at habitat for humanity, is on the board of habibat for humanity, is on the "S" club where they do any volunteer assignments that come up in town, is co-captain of a Relay for Life team and will be having to find sponsors and donations, etc. so even though most people feel their children should contribute to their driving costs, i would prefer that i contribute more, since dd does so much already--she just doesn't do it for pay!
so i put out a feeler at the golf course a couple of weeks back, since i heard the few people who are working there are swamped with hours and soon it will be staying light later and they will be open past 5:00 p.m.
then i saw my dream job ads in the paper. teaching at head start. however, the deadline for one job isn't til wednesday (the parttime one closes today), and i'm sure they won't even call anyone for ages.
well, the golf course manager called today and wants me to go to their management office tomorrow and fill out an application.
here are the pros and cons of both jobs:

golf course: pros (no pun intended! although the pro is cute...and young...)

* 15 miles from home, headed west (less fog)
* free golf for me and i can take someone free 1x a month. i get the cart, the whole shebang anytime i want and when i am not working.
* dd is on the hs golf team and this is their home course, so i can be around her a lot
* i love golf!
*when we aren't busy, i can read to my heart's content
* i can probably get this job pretty easily as it was not posted. i asked about it and now they called me.

cons:
*minimum wage
*hours will include late afternoons, weekends, holidays (all the times people can play golf, in other words!)


head start pros:
* i love teaching preschool!
* starting lowest pay is at least 8.33/hour
* i have my foot in the door for when our town completes our early childhood education center, which they are currently getting a grant for. they will be building 8 classrooms

cons:
*closest job (parttime one) is 15 miles east(fog!)
*other job (fulltime one) is 50+ miles east (fog!)
*i have no idea how many applications they received as this was in the fresno bee in addition to all the small town papers in 3 counties. fresno has 400,000 people or something, so they are bound to get a good number of applications. the town with the fulltime job is only 10 miles from fresno. however, the parttime job is an hour for them, and only 15 minutes for me.
*busy all the time, even when not in class, doing preparation, curriculum, etc.
*mandatory parent/teacher meetings (which i like, but again it's far from home!)

although i would prefer the golf course job over the fulltime head start job, just because of the difficult commute, i would love the parttime job in the next town over from us. i do not like to let people down, however, and this golf course is where i play when i play. so i can't accept the golf course job and then quit if the head start job i want opens up! but i hate to work the evenings and weekends, which are the only times i can see my family! (dh leaves at 3:15 a.m. for work and we always have dinner together, early. he has to go to bed before 7:30, and i wouldn't get off work til 7:00 at the golf course!) i am sure i would have the afternoon shift as the manager told me "afternoons and weekends' are the hours no one wants". obviously, low woman on the totem pole gets the less-ideal hours!
ideally, the parttime head start people will call this afternoon or tomorrow morning before i go to the golf course office! then i would be able to tell the golf course that i would know for sure in a couple of days if i am available for work.

i hate things like this!!

oh, another thing with county jobs...like most any big company...they could already have people in-house lined up for these jobs but have to legally post them. they may have no intention of really hiring 'outside'........
help!!

pray that head start calls today or tomorrow morning!!

Tabbyking

Monday, January 26, 2004 - 1:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
oh, and the reason i can't take one job and then quit is because many years ago i did that. and my best friend never spoke to me again. her husband was the man who hired me and on my last day at my current job, my boss begged me to stay and offered me a huge raise. he even fired the gal i didn't get along with and was the main reason i had looked elsewhere! so before i even started for my friend's husband, i quit. and he never spoke to me again and my best friend wasn't my friend anymore. she was civil if we ran into each other and that's all. i was her maid-of-honor and she was mine for my first marriage. i mean we were close! and then nothing. not even a card when i sent birth announcements, etc...it still makes me sad. i tried to call her several years ago and she was very cool on the phone.
so i can't let someone down, because i have paid dearly for it for 23 years for doing it once before!