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Emeraldfire
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03-05-2003

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 7:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
An anarchist to some, a Savior to millions.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 8:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Reader, I have the Message too. It's not quite as loose was "The Way". LOL I like that it's almost written in novel format rather than chapter/verse.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 8:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Here's the movie's website.
http://www.thepassionofthechrist.com/skip.html#

some other websites
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0335345/

http://www.seethepassion.com/index.php

http://www.gospelcom.net/rbc/thepassion/ this one has an interesting Q&A

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 8:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tish, Pilate is speaking to "the crowd" that had gathered in the square calling for Jesus' crucifixtion. Pilate was a Roman. Many feel that Pilate and Herrod didn't want to crucify Jesus and that is why they kept passing him back and forth between them. The Jewish leaders (Caphias and am drawing a blank on the other leaders of the Sandriham..butchering that spelling too) were very instrumental in Jesus' crucifixtion.

Sbw
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08-09-2000

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 9:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
There is a lot I don't know... but for my 2 cents.

The manuscripts that the Bible was taken from contained over 11,280 words. The English Bible contains only 6000. (Guess we are missing a few details here, huh?) The Jews were God's chosen people as told in the Old Testament. (And I am not saying that they aren't now.) Last night MG did say that he did not know who was going to heaven/hell. He said that it was not his decision and that he felt even some non-believers could possibly go to heaven. He felt that most religions would have people going to heaven. (Makes me curious about the statement about his wife.) I understand he spent about 30 million of his own money. The person who asked that the English subtitle be taken out was of Jewish faith and played Mary in the movie. (Don't remember which Mary.) The Jewish person that Dateline (or whatever news show it was on) said had done the most negative speaking about the movie, snuck in and saw the movie. He stated that he did not believe MG was anti-Semite or that the movie was anti-Semite; but that he was afraid that viewers would move in that direction. MG himself last night said that he felt that Christians were the most to blame for Jesus death.

(OK, so I stuck in at least 4 cents worth, sorry.)
All of the above can be wrong, but that is the way I remember it. The part that I had the hardest time expressing was what he said about people going to heaven, but that is the "nutshell" I got out of what he said and that is not what I expected him to say.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 8:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think you posted that very well SBW! (as usual) I would hope the movie is not anti-Semite.

As posted earlier, I am not sure if I'll see the movie.

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 9:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I really want to see this movie but I don't know if I can.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 11:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
this was emailed to me today

Paul Harvey Comments on "The Passion" by Mel Gibson

The majority of the media are complaining about this
movie. Now Paul
Harvey tells "The rest of the story" and David Limbaugh
praises Gibson.
Most people would wait and see a movie before giving
the reviews that
have been issued by the reporters trying to tell all of
us what to
believe.

Paul Harvey's words:

I really did not know what to expect. I was thrilled to
have been
invited to a private viewing of Mel Gibson's film "The
Passion," but
I had also read all the cautious articles and spin. I
grew up in a
Jewish town and owe much of my own faith journey to the
influence. I
have a life long, deeply held aversion to anything that
might even
indirectly encourage any form of anti-Semitic thought,
language or
actions.

I arrived at the private viewing for "The Passion",
held in
Washington DC and greeted some familiar faces. The
environment was
typically Washingtonian, with people greeting you with
a smile but
seeming to look beyond you, having an agenda beyond the
words. The
film was very briefly introduced, without fanfare, and
then the room

darkened. From the gripping opening scene in the Garden
of
Gethsemane, to the very human and tender portrayal of
the earthly
ministry of Jesus, through the betrayal, the arrest,
the scourging,
the way of the cross, the encounter with the thieves,
the surrender
on the Cross, until the final scene in the empty tomb,
this was not
simply a movie; it was an encounter, unlike anything I
have ever
experienced.

In addition to being a masterpiece of film-making and
an artistic
triumph, "The Passion" evoked more deep reflection,
sorrow and
emotional reaction within me than anything since my
wedding, my
ordination or the birth of my children. Frankly, I will
never be the
same. When the film concluded, this "invitation only"
gathering of
"movers and shakers" in Washington, DC were shaking
indeed, but
this time from sobbing. I am not sure there was a dry
eye in the
place. The crowd that had been glad-handing before the
film was now
eerily silent. No one could speak because words were
woefully
inadequate. We had experienced a kind of art that is a
rarity in
life, the kind that makes heaven touch earth.

One scene in the film has now been forever etched in my
mind. A
brutalized, wounded Jesus was soon to fall again under
the weight of
the cross. His mother had made her way along the Via
Della Rosa. As
she ran to him, she flashed back to a memory of Jesus
as a child,
falling in the dirt road outside of their home. Just as
she reached
to protect him from the fall, she was now reaching to
touch his
wounded adult face. Jesus looked at her with intensely
probing and
passionately loving eyes (and at all of us through the
screen) and
said "Behold I make all things new." These are words
taken from the
last Book of the New Testament, the Book of the
Revelation. Suddenly,
the purpose of the pain was so clear and the wounds,
that earlier in
the film had been so difficult to see in His face, His
back, indeed
all over His body, became intensely beautiful. They had
been borne
voluntarily for love.

At the end of the film, after we had all had a chance
to recover, a
question and answer period ensued. The unanimous praise
for the film,
from a rather diverse crowd, was as astounding as the
compliments
were effusive. The questions included the one question
that seems to
follow this film, even though it has not yet even been
released. "Why
is this film considered by some to be "anti-Semitic?"
Frankly, having
now experienced (you do not "view" this film) "the
Passion" it is a
question that is impossible to answer. A law professor
whom I admire
sat in front of me. He raised his hand and responded
"After watching
this film, I do not understand how anyone can insinuate
that it even
remotely presents that the Jews killed Jesus. It
doesn't." He
continued "It made me realize that my sins killed
Jesus". I agree.
There is not a scintilla of anti-Semitism to be found
anywhere in
this powerful film. If there were, I would be among the
first to
decry it. It faithfully tells the Gospel story in a
dramatically
beautiful, sensitive and profoundly engaging way.

Those who are alleging otherwise have either not seen
the film or
have another agenda behind their protestations. This is
not a
"Christian" film, in the sense that it will appeal only
to those who
identify themselves as followers of Jesus Christ. It is
a deeply
human, beautiful story that will deeply touch all men
and women. It
is a profound work of art. Yes, its producer is a
Catholic Christian
and thankfully has remained faithful to the Gospel
text; if that is
no longer acceptable behavior than we are all in
trouble. History
demands that we remain faithful to the story and
Christians have a
right to tell it. After all, we believe that it is the
greatest story
ever told and that its message is for all men and
women. The greatest
right is the right to hear the truth.

We would all be well advised to remember that the
Gospel narratives
to which "The Passion" is so faithful were written by
Jewish men who
followed a Jewish Rabbi whose life and teaching have
forever changed
the history of the world. The problem is not the
message but those
who have distorted it and used it for hate rather than
love. The
solution is not to censor the message, but rather to
promote the kind
of gift of love that is Mel Gibson's filmmaking
masterpiece, "The
Passion."

It should be seen by as many people as possible. I
intend to do
everything I can to make sure that is the case. I am
passionate about
"The Passion." You will be as well. Don't miss it!

-- Paul Harvey




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Maris
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03-28-2002

Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 5:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This review was actually not written by Paul Harvey. It was really written by Keith Fournier, the founder of a group called "Catholic Way".

link

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Ddr
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08-19-2001

Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 5:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Maris, the link you posted has the following message. We're sorry, but the page you requested could not be found. I didn't really search through their link, so if it is handy for you, could you please post it again, I'd like to read the article. Thanks.}


Maris
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03-28-2002

Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 5:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This isnt the link I posted, but it will give you the information and the corresponding link. Hope it works.

link

Ddr
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08-19-2001

Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 6:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks Maris.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 7:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks for the clarification, Maris.

Tishala
Member

08-01-2000

Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 9:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Mel Gibson's father says Holocaust exaggerated link

A week before the United States release of Mel Gibson's controversial movie, The Passion of the Christ, the filmmaker's father has repeated claims the Holocaust was exaggerated.

Hutton Gibson's comments, made in a telephone interview with New York radio talk show host Steve Feuerstein, come at an awkward time for the actor-director who has been trying to deflect criticism from Jewish groups that his film might inflame anti-Semitic sentiment.

In his interview on WSNR radio's Speak Your Piece, to be broadcast on Monday, Hutton Gibson, argued that many European Jews counted as death camp victims of the Nazi regime had in fact fled to countries like Australia and the United States.

"It's all -- maybe not all fiction -- but most of it is," he said, adding that the gas chambers and crematoria at camps like Auschwitz would not have been capable of exterminating so many people.

"Do you know what it takes to get rid of a dead body? To cremate it?" he said. "It takes a litre of petrol and 20 minutes. Now, six million of them? They (the Germans) did not have the gas to do it. That's why they lost the war."

Gibson's father caused a furore last year when he made similar remarks in a New York Times article.

<snip>

During his lengthy radio interview, Hutton Gibson, 85, said Jews were out to create "one world religion and one world government" and outlined a conspiracy theory involving Jewish bankers, the US Federal Reserve and the Vatican, among others.

The Passion, which gets its US release on February 25, purports to be a faithful and graphic account of Christ's last 12 hours on earth.

Jewish leaders who have attended advance screenings have voiced concerns that its portrayal of the Jews' role in Christ's execution could stir up anti-Semitic feeling.

Texannie
Member

07-16-2001

Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 9:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I feel very sorry for that man. To be so deluded is just down right pathetic.

Faerygdds
Member

08-29-2000

Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 10:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
He needs to visit Dachau... I have and let me tell you.. the holocaust was not at all fiction! To think that is scary enough... so say it...

Well.. all I can do is hang my head, shake it from side to side and wonder how people can be so blind.

Deesandy
Member

08-12-2003

Friday, March 05, 2004 - 8:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
666 appears on some 'Passion' tickets
ROME, Ga. (AP) — Tickets at one movie theater screening Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ" are being deemed decidedly unholy.
The number 666, which many Christians recognize as the "mark of the beast," is appearing on movie tickets for Gibson's film at a Georgia theater, drawing complaints from some moviegoers.

The machine that prints tickets assigned the number 666 as a prefix on all the tickets for the film, said Gary Smith, owner of the Movies at Berry Square in northwest Georgia. The 666 begins a series of numbers that are listed below the name of the movie, the date, time and price.

"It's from our computer and it's absolutely a coincidence," Smith said. "It has nothing to do with the film company or any vendor. It's completely in our computer."

In the Bible, the book of Revelation says 666 is the "number of the beast," usually interpreted as Satan or the Antichrist.

Several patrons have made comments about the numbers, and one person who was uncomfortable having 666 on her ticket asked for a pass to be substituted for a ticket.

"A lot of people have asked what the numbers mean, some said it seemed odd, some said it was inappropriate," said theater employee Erica Diaz.

The movie, which opened Wednesday, is a bloody depiction of Christ's final hours and crucifixion.