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Not1worry
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07-30-2002

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 4:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Right now, I still see last week's cover when I go to the site. It's not that great of a picture. I will try and scan it if the site doesn't show it soon. See the Military Support thread for all my updates and freak-outs.

Tabbyking
Member

03-11-2002

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 5:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
right now, not1, if you used my link, it should go to the newer edition. i think!!
you must be so excited, you must be so excited...!!!

Rosie
Member

11-12-2003

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 5:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tabby, I can hear the excitement building up in you -- you cannot go with Not1.

Jed245
Member

11-01-2002

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 5:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
My problem....

I'm the local union stewart for my department. I approached two of the line formen and told them that two other employee's were being favored.

They went to those two employees and told them that they had to add to thier jobs because someone complained.

Thing is one of the line formen is a friend. Both of them are my replacements because I stepped down from the position.

One of the two people that they told about the complaint (which, they are NEVER supposed to do). Is also a friend of mine and working on a bussiness venture with me. We'll call him Bob. :o)

Well Bob came to me and told me that he would tell them that I was the one that complained and he found out. He plans on telling them that in the hopes that they will run to the supervisor and he will come to me and tell me who complained.

My question was.... Do I go directly to the line formen and have a little chat with them. Do I talk to Bob and let him know that the situation is a bit different then he thinks. I was speaking up for someone else as a stewart in this situation. :o)

Or should I go directly to the supervisor and let him know that my replacements uhhh... suck :o)

Twiggyish
Member

08-14-2000

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 5:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
In my opinion, you need to follow protocol. They are your friends, but you are entrusted with a duty as stewart.
I know it's hard, but you have to do the right thing in this instance. Look at this way, had the situation been about someone else... they would have expected you to follow procedure.

Tabbyking
Member

03-11-2002

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 6:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i would have suggested to bob that he ignore worrying about who did it and correct his work-ethics or quality so that there wouldn't be any further complaints. i might even have said, 'hey, even i noticed you were slacking off a little, and i'm your friend, so i'm sure other people noticed, too. just get out there and start doing a good job.'
i would also hope you don't have to remind the people you told to keep their mouths shut about who complained...i would remind them, if i felt it was necessary, however.

Sillycalimomma
Member

11-13-2003

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 7:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Right now I want to run this little issue past some of you and get some thoughts because I am at a loss... well, we have lived in the neighborhood for over a year but really keep to ourselves. Since the weather has been good for the past month and dd got a new scooter I have been letting her play with the other neighborhood children between 5-6 at night (we live on a court) I have never held an actual conversation with any of these families because their english is very poor, but we do wave to one another every day and such. Well, during dd birthday party a girl that lives across the street that is the same age managed to find her way over. I of course invited her to stay and luckily had extra goodie bags too. Well, she just now came over, rang the doorbell and asked if she could stay for awhile-at this same time her parents drove by with a quick wave then drove off. What??? Is this normal behavior for a suburban neighborhood? I just think this is odd...these girls are only 7...
so right now dd is playing with the neighborhood gal in our living room....I have to take her to gymnastics in 20 minutes and don't know what to do with this gal! Do I take her with me? Do I shove her off to another neighbor?

Twiggyish
Member

08-14-2000

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 7:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It's possible there is someone home. It could be a grandmother or an aunt. I'd go over to the house and check first. Then, see if another neighbor can watch the little girl. You might want to speak to the parents when you get back.

Sillycalimomma
Member

11-13-2003

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 7:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, I walked over just ot make sure. Her older sister was there with one of her friends-she is only 10 herself though. I just don't know. Her parents do not speak any english to my knowledge so I am really lost here. I thought about saying something to the older sister, but she is just a kid herself. Oh well, 10 more minutes and I am off to gymnastics. Guess I will just put her back in the care of older sis and check on them both when we get back...isn't it illegal to leave children under the age of 13 home alone?

Pamy
Member

01-02-2002

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 7:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Right now I wanted to share an amusing name I came across today...Mr. Donald Dongsuk Kim

Twiggyish
Member

08-14-2000

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 7:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't know. I'd still talk to the parents when you get back.

Pamy..poor guy..LOL

Egbok
Member

07-13-2000

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 7:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Only you Pamy, only you...LOL!!

Landi
Member

07-29-2002

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 7:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
silli - in our state IT IS AGAINST the law! i'd call the cops if i were you! but then again.. that is my opinion.

Mocha
Member

08-12-2001

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 8:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Silly I would take the child back to her house and then later when the parents are home talk to them. They could've made arrangements to have someone come and watch the kids or they were running to the store for a moment.

Rosie
Member

11-12-2003

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 8:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Silly, it sounds like they have chosen you to be the "caretaker" without your permission. I would put a stop to this right now.

Nothing wrong with including the child at the birthday party -- which was very nice of you but waving to you as they drive away and their child is with you is just too much. What would you do should a medical emergency happen with that child? Call the police I suppose but still....

It is called "taking advantage of Silly" and also "child neglect".

JMO

Sillycalimomma
Member

11-13-2003

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 9:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Right now I would like to apologize for taking over the thread and thank you all for your input. It is almost 8 here, I just got back from gymnastics and went on over there. Her parents are still not back yet. I left my phone number with the older girl and asked that one of her parents give me a call. Also told her to come over if they needed anything or if there was an emergency. Last week the boy that lives next door (whose parents also do not speak any english) came over with a huge gash in his leg from falling down and asked if I would help him-his parents were not home either and he is only 7 as well! Perhaps it is a cultural thing. I don't know, I don't get it and I don't like it. Anyway, thank you again!

Tabbyking
Member

03-11-2002

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 9:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
right now, landi it IS NOT against the law to leave a kid under the age of 13 alone. i always thought it was, too. well, about 5 years ago, i called child welfare on kids who stayed alone all summer days while parents worked. the oldest was 11 and there were 4 kids. they told me if the kid was mature, age did not matter!!

Tabbyking
Member

03-11-2002

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 9:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Associated Press

Santa Ana-

How old is old enough to be left home alone?

A three-judge California Court of Appeal panel grappled with that question while reviewing a woman's misdemeanor child abuse conviction for leaving her 8-year-old daughter home alone so she could go to work when she could not find a baby sitter.

These situations are typically handled by social service agencies. But in this case, Michiko Kamiyama was prosecuted as criminal and spent three months in jail.

Because there is no state law that specifies what age a child must be to be left alone at home, the justices were without a basis for their opinions, causing a split among and along emotional and gender lines.

this is just one example i found when i googled california law. i found a kentucky case where social services was called on an 8 year old left alone and determined the kid was capable of calling for help in an emergency so closed the case. i had always thought it was 13, but i guess not.
i am furious at the parents who buy their kids great america passes and drop their little kids off at the amusement park for entire days all summer...getting a babysitter for a 60-dollar pass and some lunch money.

Mocha
Member

08-12-2001

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 9:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Right now...

I was 7 when I became a latchkey kid. I agree that it does depend on the child's maturity level.

Tabbyking
Member

03-11-2002

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 10:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
right now, the kids who were all left alone with the 11-year-old were always out in their undies playing in the street, but i had to admit it was exactly the same even when the folks were home :-)
i feel sad for kids who have to be left alone, because i always worked around my kids' schedule and was the 'home when they got there' type of parent. that is not always possible these days, and i was very fortunate to have had the option of staying home. it's now that i have to get out there and work!! and my dd, who is 16, says, 'who is going to kiss me hello when i get home!?'
when she was about 7 and got herself and her brother ready for school and cooked and fed them both fried eggs over easy and toast and i slept through it all until they got me up to drive them to school, i was amazed and felt a little 'unneeded'. i told my dd, 'i guess you don't need me anymore!' and she said, 'yes, i do. you have to tell me you love me and kiss me goodbye!'

Landi
Member

07-29-2002

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 10:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
wow! i was told it was! well...because i believed that i never let holly stay home by herself until she turned 13!! and as for it being a cultural thing... i see it here all the time in napa. and the kids all scream at the top of their lungs, babies cry for hours with noone ever doing anything

Tabbyking
Member

03-11-2002

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 10:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
landi, i would leave my son and daughter alone for 'trial runs' when son was 11 and dd was 9, AND after i found out 13 was not the legal age. i would go to the store for 2 items or run to the post office--1.5 miles from our house. i always told them they could not eat anything while i was gone LOL, because i was afraid they would choke. poor kids! i also had the phone on speed dial to my cell phone.
people always got mad if husband and i didn't go away overnight when son was 16 and dd 14. no way. i did not leave my son alone until this christmas when he was already 18 and he had so many rules, i think he just slept in every day and watched tv!
knock on wood, but my kids have so far made the right choices about friends, drugs, alcohol and parties.

Landi
Member

07-29-2002

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 10:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
right now i'm laughing, my holly is on spring break, and she had to be alone today, husband was working down at our storage on our boat, i was at work. she slept until 11, didn't get dressed until 3, ate cookies, ice cream, and chips for food today.... laughing... she won't let anyone in, or go out... but she made a mess with the food on the counters, and cookie packages all over the living room! and she didn't do any og the chores i asked her to do

Tabbyking
Member

03-11-2002

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 11:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
right now, wow, early spring break. son is home from college, but dd doesn't get off high school til good friday.
yep, leave a kid alone and they act like a man in front of a football game--comfy clothes, lotsa snacks and no clean up the dog can't take care of.
what i want to know right now is why she even got dressed at 3:00? LOL

Tabbyking
Member

03-11-2002

Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 12:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
right now, i cannot sleep knowing not1's dh is almost home. she's probably sawing logs and i can't sleep!
tabby fires up the chainsaw and goes out to saw her own logs. cause if she can't sleep, ain't no one gonna sleep!

seriously, the old couple next door (purple people eaters) are up and in their yard before 5:30 every day. last year, i had a dream about the texas chainsaw massacre, although i never saw the movie and dreams have a way of going their own way, so whether it followed the movie i have no idea, but it was a chainsaw and something bad always happens when you have a chainsaw in the wheatfields, and no trees in sight, and when i woke up in the dark, i realized the purple people had turned on their back yard lights and were using the lawn mower and gas leaf blower at 5:11 in the morning! it's a good thing my chainsaw was in the shop!
and knowing them, they had had a pot of coffee and a big breakfast already. i think they must go to bed about 7:00 at night.

after i had a nice talk with them, with the "samfromapprenticehearing'youarefired'" look about my eyes, they wait til 7:00 now, which is still too early, but better than 5:11.