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Konamouse

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 6:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Max (and everyone else).
Computer generated Height and Weight information and calories are often just that: computer generated based on some unknown formula (i.e. 10 kcal per pound body weight set at an ideal body weight that is unrealistic for your frame or weight history).

Try this one:
For women 25 calories per inch of height. If you are more active, then set your target at 30 calories per inch.
For men 30 calories per inch, 35 if more active.

Set your target calorie goal near the needs for your desireable weight - then when you reach that goal, you are ALREADY eating in a manner that will help you KEEP the same weight.

Please remember that losing weight is easy, KEEPING THE LOST WEIGHT OFF is what is difficult - when we go ON diets, we then go OFF diets. Re-teach yourself a healthier way of eating and a healthier relationship with food, as well as activity, so you can maintain this lifestyle after the challenge is over.

Mak1 - according to height/weight charts, I'm suppose to be 115#. Considering that with muscle, bones and organs I already have 107#, that goal weight would be very difficult and unhealthy for me. I'm healthier around 145# (and still only 25% body fat). Desireable weight may be different depending on muscle mass. People who have been heavier most of their lives, and those who already exercise, may have higher bone mineral density (heavier bones) and larger muscle mass. So goal weight is very individualistic. Glad to see you made that distinction.

'squeek'

Konamouse

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 6:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Teachmichigan wrote "Kona...I'm not a huge dairy fan (can't stand milk), and while I can handle 8 oz. of yogurt a day, I'm wondering about the other cup. Can I eat low fat cheese (like yogurt cheese or skim mozzarella) and have the same benefits as drinking skim milk? The only way I can gag down milk is with chocolate (or in iced form! LOL)."

Sorry this took me so long to reply.
Supplemental calcium (pills) do not appear to affect metabolism the way that dairy foods do. While Tums and others will help with bone, you need the food source for the metabolic effects (also lowers blood pressure).

Try nonfat yogurt, or a latte (I get myself a venti latte with 1 c nonfat milk, 1 c soy milk and 1 shot chocolate most every morning). Low-fat cheese (like 1 oz part-skim mozzerella) would work - about the same kcals as 1 c 1% milk. And would make a great accompanyment to any fruit snack (so you get some fat, some protein and some carbs at the same time).

'squeek'

Cinder

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 8:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Is everyone ready for tomorrow? I hope getting there 30 minutes before the store opens is plenty of time. Like Pamy- I will be driving about 45 minutes to an hour.

I plan to use the 3 free months to Bally's to go to Aerobics. I plan to walk 1-2 times a day (if twice they will be shorter- but both with the dog) I plan to keep a diary of my food intake.

I find the DHC website frustrating- so like Mak- I will only use it as a guide. I know what to do- but sticking with it can be hard. I am glad I have my friends at TVCH to keep track of things with. I also hope a coworker of mine gets there in time to get the free packet so she will go to the gym with me.

Herckleperckle

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 10:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am going to try to be there at 8:30 (I don't really know when the mall opens, though). I don't want to spend all day in line, and am hoping to be able to get at or near the front of the line. I think I will take my 'sand' chair just in case this becomes a longer wait, though.

Yes, this is scary--committing to really doing it. I purposely made a doc appt for my annual physical for 1/19, so I can really box myself in with this commitment. I have to do it so I like what I see in the mirror again and so I do not fall prey to health problems that plague my mother.

Tabbyking

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 10:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i am going to sleep in! i weighed in at the doc's on tuesday. no weigh-in center nearby, so that's okay.

kona...is the total of 25 times your height in inches to lose weight or stay where you are? it says 1575 for me. is that to lose weight? (25 calories times 63 inches. gosh, i wish i were 5'10" and not 5'3"!!)
i do about 1200 calories and exercise for 45 minutes to an hour and still only lose about a pound a week.

Tabbyking

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 10:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
okay, let's hear what our last suppers were.
at the elks lodge, i had a green salad and chicken breast (no skin) and 2 small smoked ribs, no sauce. i skipped the scalloped potatoes and the dessert. i did have 2 glasses of merlot, however :)

Pamy

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 10:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tabby, sounds like ya started your diet!
I have had a burger, baked potatoe, and ice cream sandwich!

Kappy

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 10:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Max ~ Yes, what you said way back up there does help, lol! I got to the analysis just fine. Just couldn't get beyond it and now I know why.

I actually started WW as well last week so I may skip the store weight in tomorrow and just use the website for good tips. I need the accountability of WW's weekly weigh in.

I wish all of us luck! No matter what or how much we do or don't lose, hopefully we'll all make some good lifestyle changes.

Tabbyking

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 10:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
pamy, holy crap! you had a burger, like with a BUN?
and you had a baked POTATO, and an ICE CREAM sandwich?
i feel diet-guilty because i saw buns the other day!


then he walked off.

Max

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 11:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tabby, If you are truly eating around 1200 calories and day and exercising for 45 minutes and still only losing a pound a week, chances are you aren't eating ENOUGH. I know that sounds crazy, but it's true. If you eat too few calories, your body goes into starvation mode and slows everything down to compensate.

I'd suggest bumping your calories up to 1300 or 1400 for acouple of weeks and seeing what happens. :)

Just a suggestion based on what I've learned over the years and what I've experienced myself.
(I know a lot about losing weight. Just have a hard time not FINDING it again! :))

Herckleperckle

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 11:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
My mall opens at 10 am. So I guess arriving at 9 will do.

I had a microwavable meal (Wt. Watchers Chicken Fajitas), hot tea, water, 10 black olives and 1 LA Lite choc peanut butter bar.

Good luck everyone! Can't wait to hear your stories about whatever you encounter tomorrow!

Tabbyking

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 11:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
man, that would be great if i could eat more, Max!!
i figure i eat about 1200 to 1400 calories a day and work off between 150 and 200 on the treadmill. there will be 3 or 4 days where i don't lose an ounce. then maybe on day 5, i'll be down a pound and 4 or 5 days later, maybe another pound. it sure isn't going quickly and i am very good.

over a day i might eat:
1 C steamed veggies and a piece of chicken breast with no skin, broiled.
canned pumpkin and nonfat, sugar-free pudding made into a 'pumpkin pudding' (made with water).
1/2 orange or a tiny banana and a decaf latte for an afternoon snack
some homemade salsa with celery sticks
1 C steamed veggies and a piece of lean meat or chicken or some canned tuna
evening snack: 1 tablespoon of peanut butter, eaten right off the spoon--slowly and savored!

i do the treadmill either once for almost an hour or twice, 1/2 hour at a time.
i usually do stretching or crunches for several minutes before the treadmill.

Cinder

Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 6:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I had Red Lobster take-out. I am glad I didn't attempt to eat there because they were busy. I had fried shrimp and crab alfredo. I have been eating my favorite foods all week knowing that if I eat them after today I will have to account for them. I know I will still eat them, but I will be more conscience of how many calories and how much fat I am consuming and it won't be as fun.
Good luck to all who will attempt to go to the Discovery store. I hope it will not be a frustrating experience.

Herckleperckle

Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 6:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am up (it's 8:25 here) and ready to roll shortly to go to the Mall. It is 3 degrees! Aaah. Talk to you later!

Costacat

Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 8:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I so was planning on going today but... dagnabit! I have to work!!!!

On the not so much weight loss side, at least we're getting lunch brought in! LOL...

Herckleperckle

Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 11:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I did it, I did it!!! I was later than I had planned, getting there at 10:30. I went to the end of a very long line, met some nice gals and talked the entire hour it took to get inside the store. Weighed in (gawd!) but no calipers used to measure body fat.

Talked briefly with the certified nutritionist, Nancy Ferriello, who told me she ran a 6-week seminar that addressed weight and menopausal issues. I signed her sheet as interested and took her handout--a copy of a newspaper story about her private practice (dated 7/01), which she evidently has had now for 18 years. (She looked good, too.)

Received:


• My weight (ack!!) recorded on a slip reminding me to come back on April 3 for the Weigh-out

• A Welcome Letter signed by the EVP and Gen Mgr of the Discovery Health Channel

• A green flyer called, You Could Be on TV, which requires you send in a tape to CA--for possible broadcast on the DHChannel

• A postcard from the March of Dimes asking you to join WalkAmerica

• Fitness & Nutrition Journal (very nice!)

• Two coupons for $10 each --off my next purchases at the Discovery Channel Store

• A complimentary 3-month guest pass at Bally Total Fitness

• A pamphlet from Bally about equipment for the home (they must own the company)

• A Discovery Health National Body Challenge cap (cute!)

• Chapstick on a string with the DHNBC logo

• Portable tape measure sporting the same logo

• A sample of Secret deodorant (solid)


I'm so excited!!



Tabbyking

Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 12:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
well, no cap if you register on-line, so i'll just wear my los banos FFA hat with the cows and pigs on it that i won at some dinner last year LOL

Cinder

Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 12:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well- I got there 30 minutes before they opened and OMG. People must have gotten their 1-2 hours before. An hour later- I have a weigh in time of 3:30-4:30. The free stuff was gone before 9:30- but I was told they would send it in the mail. We'll see. So- I have to drive 45 minutes back- but this time DH WILL STAY HOME!!!!!

Herkle- I'm jealous. So what total amount of time were you there- an hour?

Cinder

Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 12:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I reread your post Herkle. Looks like you got a free packet and weighed in all within an hour- WOW!! Much different experience in St Louis. They handed the free stuff out and scheduled weigh in times before the store even opened to try to get rid of some of the people in line. I saw some angry people too because the handing out of weigh-in times was not organized AT ALL.

When I get back (I have to leave in a minute) I will have to wait in line AGAIN to weigh in- all in hopes of possibly getting a get-fit kit in the mail. Is it worth it- probably not- but I can think it is until April and maybe it will mean more because I went through so much trouble today.

Tabbyking

Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 2:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
waiting for cinder to come back and tell us how it went on her return trip. hopefully, they have separate areas for the 'assigned time' and she will get in and out quick.
i have been good so far, but my hard time is after dinner. we always eat by 6:00 if possible. mainly because everyone is hungry the minute they get home from school or work and if we didn't have dinner around 5:00, everyone would just be snacking up til dinner time! but, because we eat early, if i am up til 10:00 or 11:00, my tummy starts rumbling!
i have found that a little taste of peanut butter and a decaff latte with nonfat milk help me feel fuller and like i got to spoil myself!

Konamouse

Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 3:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hey Tabby -
Yup, 1200 kcals may not be enough for you. As was stated a few spots up - if you eat less than your Resting Metabolic Rate, you slow down your metabolism. However, an average weight loss of 1 pound per week would = over 50 pounds in a year (quite an accomplishment).
We often want to lose weight faster than we gained it (except for pregnancy and certain metabolic/medical conditions) most people do not gain 50 pounds in a year.
Another thing to consider is getting your metabolism going stronger. Include resistence training along with your stretching and cardiovascular work.
Keep going, you're doing great!!!

'squeek'

Herckleperckle

Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 3:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Cinder, twice now I have lost my posts (only once here). God. I went into such detail. Don't have the energy to do it again. Here's a shorter version, though:

In Danbury, the event was super-organized. It did take me about an hour total to get in and out, that's it. People were very well behaved. They did announce that if they ran out of packets, anyone in line would receive theirs in the mail. So I think that was the truth. I wouldn't worry about going strictly for the weigh-in. You can do that. But . . . I do like the spiral-bound journal and going through the whole standing-in-line, jabbering thing somehow helped. (And the official goodies help me too, for whatever reason!)

I did see that the line was at least 3 times as long when I left! So I am glad I got there when I did!

Let me know what you decide and do, okay?

Pamy

Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 3:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
My DH saw on the news people were in line 3-4 hrs before they opened, so we decided to just weigh in online and go from there.

We are going to the market today to get all the good/right foods for us to eat

Good luck everyone!

Tabbyking

Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 3:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
uh, pamy, will you be getting krispy kremes?

Tabbyking

Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 3:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
thanks, kona, for your post. i do realize slow and steady is probably best and you are right that it didn't get put on overnight! sometimes it's hard, but when i look at my september, october and november calendars and see the 3 or 4 pound difference for each month, it makes it worth it! by april, virtually everything in my closet will fit me, if i can continue the weightloss. by june, some of it may even look good on me. LOLOLOL
what also helps me a little is to see just how many steps i have to take on the treadmill at 3.5 or higher mph to have it count one calorie! it's like 25 fast steps for EACH calorie i am burning. if i eat one bite of a snicker's, do i really want to have to do a thousand steps on the treadmill for THAT? or would i prefer that it's working off a full serving of steamed veggies to do that same number of steps?
i also like that on weekdays when it's me and the pets at home, i can turn off the heater for at least 2 hours after i exercise because i am so warm :)