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Landi
Member
07-29-2002
| Friday, February 27, 2004 - 4:45 pm
it's tax season for my daddyweinerkins. he'll be back more when that's over.
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Mak1
Member
08-12-2002
| Friday, February 27, 2004 - 8:03 pm
Best BB poster: BUNNY 7. Poster you would most like to meet: I'm not including people who are planning to meet in Mystic. Reader, Texannie, Jan, Twiggyish (and so many more!) 11. Best poster in Reality other than BB: Jan, Alaginger, clp, Hermione
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Friday, February 27, 2004 - 8:08 pm
lol Mak, I was only including people I hoped would make it to Chicago, then I thought, but i cant leave out... I think i need more spaces than five, I really mess up when I start thinking too much!! I completely forgot BUNNY!! and rabbit is always one to get me lol and how could I forget... uggg!! I had to "vote" because I see we can nom 5 posters, and thought the more that particpate the more names get mentioned, and then there was this huge thing in the paper about a Senate Candidate that hasnt VOTED in like 15 years!!
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Urgrace
Member
08-19-2000
| Friday, February 27, 2004 - 10:02 pm
A Senate candidate who hasn't voted! That's an oxymoron.
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Abby7
Member
07-17-2002
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 12:25 am
I'm only posting here to thank those of you who have not posted. Pamy, Adven...what is the point of this thread? To make just some of TVCH members feel good about themselves? Not to say, I am going to feel bad about myself... Just to say TVCH is not about "most popular". TVCH is about coming here as a group, sharing your opinion....we are all popular. I don't know or understand, Adven and Pamy, why you want to make this about "most popular". Why do you? I know it is going to be hard for me to continue posting here, because of this post. However, I'm posting it anyway. I agree with all posters about how great everyone here is. I just don't like this thread. I don't see the point. I don't understand how the result of this poll is going to make any of us feel better. Even if I was voted in to this poll, I would post this. I swear I would. Honestly, I don't see your point.
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Abby7
Member
07-17-2002
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 12:34 am
Just to add this Adven and Pamy: if you really want to know who is "most" whatever...why not post it in each TVCH's member's folder. Just let each person know, "personally", by telling them. I think it is pretty obvious who each person likes...why do you need to make a list about it? TVCH is not about who is more popular than others IMO. Again, why pamy and adven do you want a list on most popular (in different categories?) This is not what TVCH is about.
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Lancecrossfire
Moderator
07-13-2000
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 12:43 am
Abby, I don't think there is an intention to make anyone feel bad or good. I see it as a way to point out what and who we like about this board. Some folks only go to a specific area of the board--games, SO, Survivor, BB, members folders, etc. Some go to all areas. I've been nominated as most helpful by a couple people--yet as a poster that looks at most of the board, and as a moderator, I have a different perspective of what "most helpful" means. I say that not to take away the validity of anyone else's thoughts--I say it to point out we all have our perspectives--and this allows us to share those perspectives. I don't always take time (ok, almost never) to say who has touched me with laughter, with tears, with a message to challenge my thoughts and perspectives. For me, this thread provides that. I'm not in competition with anyone--at least not from my perspective. I think without this thread, those who would have a "most popular" approach would do so anyway. You asked the point. For me, the point is to honor those in my mind at the moment, and add as I remember others who have touched me in some way. I value all who contribute--and thee are some I'm lucky enough to have a connection with in some manner. I hope over time that list grows. 
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Abby7
Member
07-17-2002
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 1:03 am
Lance, thanks for responding in a kind way. I really didn't expect a kind response. I have no problem with anyone disagreeing with me...I not only expected it...but can agree in some way. I knew by saying what I did it would not go over well. However, because I am such an idiot...I just have to say what I feel at the time. Lance,I do agree with the people who have responded to this thread. I have always said, TVCH is a site I come to because I have never been to another site like it. This site respects all of us. Thank you, Lance, for giving me your point of view. You have been a person I have respected from the first time I read your post. I can't tell you how many people have made me change my life, my point of view. There are so many. You, just being one. However, I'm not going to make this a popularity contest. I think, instead, ( a lesson now learned)....I need to just post in each person's folder how they made a difference in my life. If that is the intention of this thread then great...I don't think so. However, I'm not going to pick you as the "most respected". Still, I don't understand the "list". Sorry. Pamy and Adven: I know your intention is not to hurt me or anyone else. We all know how you are both so much a part of TVCH. I am not saying you are trying to hurt or make anyone feel bad. I'm just asking you take a look at how your "poll" might make some of us feel...i don't know..not bad...but just not 'AS LIKED AS YOU? i honestly think, Adven and Pamy, you have a very good idea., about the answers to your questions. So, why do you need to ask the questions? JUST TO MAKE SURE? WHY? Why do you want to start a thread asking TVCH members who they think is the most "whatever"?
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 1:13 am
Hi abby, in a way I do agree with you, and you probably can think all those that dont post here are also making a choice... I posted, and I made a choice... and as my post reflect I dont want to offend all those posters I do so love and enjoy... and then crs sets in and I left them out... What made me post was reading Random Thoughts... and I thought of Bobbie... and I thought of fly, and then I thought I would like a chance to add some more names... I chose not to get offended when I'm not listed, and I chose to get 'shocked' when I am... I am not a high impact player, nor do I chose to be... I know my faults in real life, and have no grand delusions in my online life... However, I do respect you for posting your views, and your choices... and I like upslegs post too.... (kinda forgot to mention that earlier... uuuuups, I mean oooooops) For me, I do enjoy Adven's threads, and Pamy's humor, and both of them have a kinder, gentler side they chose to show now and again... and I thank them too...
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Abby7
Member
07-17-2002
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 1:28 am
Thanks Reader for your response. First off, I am STILL, so mad at myself for even posting. I honestly didn't want to. Even though I am typing this now...I know I shouldn't be. Not because TVCH is a site where I can't post my thoughts...it's because I know I am somewhat wrong in my post...actually, I shouldn't have posted at all. It's just that this is the second thread of this type ( as i remember it...i may be wrong...but i do remember about posting a similar post almost a year ago about almost the same thing?). I did thank those of you who didn't give a reply to this thread. Sorry, that was "stupid". I don't know why this thread makes me so upset. Honestly, I don't. I know the fact it makes me so upset is MY problem...not any of you who I have mentioned. I am looking into this problem of mine. (please don't think because it has something to do with not being voted "most popular" in high school...that is not it. that would be such an easy answer..but not the answer). I don't know. Sorry, I do have a problem with being overly sensitive with certain subjects Again, I know how posting this is going to be so bad for me in the future. I'm posting it anyway.
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Lancecrossfire
Moderator
07-13-2000
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 1:30 am
Abby, so glad to hear you took my response with the intent I had in mind--thanks for taking the time to listen to another perspective. Last year, this very thread caused great concern for some--and my post in particular, because I tried to keep to the limit on who I wanted to meet (but hadn't met yet). After giving things some time to sink in, I came to a couple of conclusions about TVCH. One is that this thread represents the issues of many threads. Even with the best of intentions, some people are bothered. I think that is the way life seems to be in general. Next, if we didn't care, we wouldn't be bothered about something. Apathy and mediocrity run rampant in the world. I give TVCH folks a bid kudos for being above the bar in that respect. It may be an issue near to their heart--the war, gay rights, the way pets are treated, a wedding, abuse, or just a bad day at the market. We seem to care. Third, we want to be accepted by others. Yet, each of us may define acceptance in different ways. And at the same time, we may seek that acceptance in different ways. Long posts, short posts, humorous posts, serious posts, posts to show concern, posts to give information. We seek to fit in some how. For me, each peron who participates fits in. I connect to some more than others. But then again, I'm pretty weird sometimes. Please don't tell anyone I said that, since I usually say I'm the most normal person you will ever meet. For the what-it's-worth department, I remember your name and some of your posts over time. What counts is that you say how you feel and how you think (in a respectful way). A person who does that may or may not make someone's list--but they will be remembered no matter what. I think that is a pretty cool thing.
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Lancecrossfire
Moderator
07-13-2000
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 1:36 am
Abby, I'm not bothered you posted. "The philosopher's ideal is that of a rational being coexisting with other rational beings. He wants to doubt, he thirsts for objections and attacks, he strives to become capable of playing his part in the dialog of ever-deepening communication, which is a prerequisite of all truth and without which there is no truth." Karl Jaspers "Way to Wisdom"
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Abby7
Member
07-17-2002
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 1:42 am
Thanks Lance. I've been a part of TVCH for years (more than the date under my name). When I first found this site, I had no idea about the people here. The first site I ever went to or discovered was "Real World Blows"...now called a different name. Anyway, I came here. I know I said many mean things to people. Unfortunately, I still manage to "rub" people the wrong way. As an adult, I have learned, from this site...so many things...even more so in real life. I didn't respond to this thread to make anyone feel bad...even though it may look that way. Again, thank you for responding in a kind way. TVCH has made me learn so much about myself. Thank you.
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Lancecrossfire
Moderator
07-13-2000
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 1:46 am
Abby, we have something in common then--I too have learned about myself in many ways with the help of TVCH and the people here. And I too have rubbed people the wrong way! (lots of people!!) I know you've been around for quite awhile. I hope you stick around for awhile too. 
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Sage
Member
07-20-2000
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 1:57 am
Well, I'm very hesitant in saying anything about this, and I'm not sure I could make it sound intelligent, besides. But, I'll go ahead and give it a whirl. I do agree with Abby in what she has said. I've never been popular, and am the sort of person who just fits into the background. I think the people who are popular, (and I'm also relating this to school times) are those who have that "A" personality, the ones who are extroverted and "out there". They are the ones who get noticed. We introverted people don't usually get noticed, and since we don't, I think it has the tendency to make us feel unimportant, because we aren't "out there", or we aren't very verbal and expressive in our thoughts and ideas. We keep it in, hence, we are introverted. Am I making any sense? This is just my own theory, the way I think about this, and when I use the term "we", I really mean "me". I'm not very clever or witty. I don't have quick comebacks. I don't always have the right words to say to people, and so I don't say anything at all. I think I'm most effective in my thoughts, in my actions, in my spirit, in the way I give off energy. To me, that doesn't get the same kind of notice that someone who expresses themselve outwardly does. Where am I going with this? Well, I guess it's the mostly extroverted, "A type" personalities that get noticed and voted for as they are "out there" in their expression. It doesn't make them more important, it just makes them more noticed. Anyway, that's just my 2 cents, and I have no idea if any of it makes sense at all.
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Abby7
Member
07-17-2002
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 2:17 am
Sage, you make sense to me ( and not because you said you agree with me). Again, my reason for even posting about this is this: TVCH is all about everyone being accepted, IMO. This poll has nothing to do with what TVCH is all about IMO. For example, there is a topic about TVCH members gathering together (for example, Las Vegas). Why would a TVCH member even bother meeting others if you are going to start a poll about "who would you like to meet". Can you understand if that person would like to go to a TVCH gathering, but there name is not ever mentioned on "who you would like to meet" It makes it awkward for that person to put "their name" on the list as ....oh yeah, i want to go! so, does that one example make any sense to you? meaning, how being off that list might make one feel like they don't want to go?
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Sage
Member
07-20-2000
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 2:36 am
Yeah, it makes sense what you are saying, but I'm not sure everyone has the same perspective about it as you do. No one has ever put my name on a list of who they'd like to meet, but it doesn't stop me from wanting to go and meet people. The only thing that stops me is the fact that I'm poverty stricken right now. And speaking of being poverty stricken, it made me realize how a lack of funds and possesions can make a person feel they have little status in any kind of society. But I suppose those feelings can only be generated by believing you are nothing if you have nothing. It's all a mindset. "What a man thinketh, so is he". Oh well, I think I'm getting way off topic here for this thread.
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Abby7
Member
07-17-2002
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 2:36 am
oops, sorry for the errors in spelling above (there for their). again, Adven and Pamy...just asking this question because i needed to...sorry,
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Abby7
Member
07-17-2002
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 2:41 am
Hi Sage, just read your post (after I posted). I understand what you are saying about lack of funds. I'll send you a post on Tuesday, (I won't be back until then, maybe Monday, though). Actually, thanks for changing the subject....I needed that. Need sleep now...have a busy day tomorrow. Night, talk to you later, abby.
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Adven
Member
02-06-2001
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 6:11 am
Thanks, Abby, for posting what I'm sure a number of people think. That was very courageous of you. I should mention that Pamy just mentioned my starting this thread in passing because I had done it last year and some enjoyed it. It was my decision to actually start it. Lance has summed up my reasons for starting this thread quite nicely, but I'll add a few points too in an attempt to explain and clarify. First, my threads tend to be vaguely controversial at times and that's why I put my name on them. If a poster has been around TVCH for a little while, they quickly learn whether my stuff is for them or not and can choose to avoid it. The bottom line, though, is any thread I start with my name on it is intended to be silly, fun and even frivolous. Although I appreciate the nominations I received, my enjoyment of a thread like this comes from seeing others recognized, particularly those who may not have realized they were appreciated to the extent they are by others. I have no doubt Pamy feels the same way. This kind of thing has been done a few times over the years and I have not been nominated at all at times in the past. I didn't take it personally or even give it much thought, to be honest. I'm aware that the board has a lot of members and we all frequent different areas. Because I started this one, it tends to attract like-minded people and the nominations will reflect that. Had Jan started it in the "Starting Over" area or OI in "News and Views" the people who posted and the results would have been decidedly different. In other words, it's not intended to be a popularity contest so much as it is an opportunity for members to acknowledge others directly and openly. I would hope those who didn't get nominated realize that is largely because those who might have done so, didn't post and that those that did, represent a very small percentage of the total membership. Finally, I tried to make it as inclusive as possible by making a ridiculous number of categories. I'll acknowledge that sensitivity and lack of impulsiveness are not always my strong suits. On the other hand, I hope those not interested in this sort of thread, can see it for what it is - frivolous and typical of the kind of stuff I start - and not take it personally. I do want you and Sage to understand that I appreciate your views and even agree with them to a certain extent. If you and others see this as an exercise in exclusion, I apologize. Although I enjoy testing the edge of the envelope, it is not my intention to hurt people's feelings. Annoy them, get on their nerves, maybe, but not hurt.
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Bigd
Member
09-13-2001
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 9:29 am
Since Abby7 and Sage have been so brave to post, I will too. I understand and agreed with most if not all of you ideas and discomfort with your posts, and yes, I support you. Although I think Sage's post about type "A" personalities is very insightful, but in real life, I happen to be just the opposite of your theory about the “popular” posters on this board. I am a "A" type personality. I am completely an extrovert. I am always in the middle of whatever is going on, and many times started it myself. I have been very fortunate my whole life in my interactions with people. I laugh often and loud and am known for it. I am a prankster and joker and everyone that knows me describes me that way. I would not call myself popular, but I will tell you I have made very few enemies and have always enjoyed large groups of friends. I am regularly invited to parties and regularly host get-togethers. I have not necessarily exhibited this behavior on this board though. I sometimes feel as though I am probably barely noticed on this board and usually try to "fly under the radar". I cannot really even explain why I do not behave here as I do in real life, except that it takes longer to type it in and then sometimes I read it and just delete and not even post. I figure people need to know me a little better to get my silliness. I come here and witness the interactions between posters with great interest and amusement. Some of the ones I think are the funniest probably never even notice me, cause I don't tell them I usually read EVERY post they make. Now there are the obvious ones like Adven, who I think is a real hoot, that is so out there and so obvious in his silliness that I can comfortably tell him straight up that I get him and his clowning around. This thread probably makes me uncomfortable too, but I just try to remember it is intended to be funny and no matter what gets posted I try to take it in the nature it was intended. I have had some bad experiences with posting and so I limit myself since I know that I am mostly to blame for my bad experiences. This is what makes me feel such compassion for your bravery to post, Sage and Abby7, and so I would want you to know I respect your bravery and honor it. And I would also tell you that I notice you, I know you are here. Here’s another reason why I don’t post much – I typed all this in MSWord, spell checked, re-read it, went back to post and the board was in maintenance mode. Now normally I just simply wouldn’t even bother to come back later and post. But since this post is largely about why I don’t post much, and my effort to support two that struggled with their posts, I thought I better come back and try. LOL!
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Resortgirl
Member
09-23-2000
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 9:43 am
I've read and reread the posts of Abby, Sage and now BigD and I really do give you guys lots of credit for having the guts to post. I wanted to, but was too chicken. I agree with all three of you. When I first saw this thread I read it, and felt bad. I know I'm a sensitive (overly as you all know) person, and it did seem like a popularity contest to me. I'm like BigD... very outgoing in real life, and although I think I'm fairly outgoing here to, I often post something, think better of it and delete it... Sometimes I wish I had that option in real life, that's for SURE! Anyway, I guess being "excluded" is the thing that worries me about threads like this. I know that wasn't Advens intention at all.... but it was very brave of you Abby to put your feelings on the line like that!! I applaud you!!
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Rosie
Member
11-12-2003
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 9:59 am
Like RG, I have read and re-read the posts of Abby, Sage, Big D, RG and Adven. Abby, I noticed you with your "original artwork". Sage, you and I have have shared a couple of posts. RG, I have enjoyed reading your posts and viewing your photos. Big D, I have enjoyed reading your posts as well, even though I don't recall ever posting in your folder. Adven, I too "get you" and enjoy your pranks on the board. When I first saw this thread, my first thought was great more fun but then a thought crept into my mind. That was, what if I hurt someone's feelings by not listing them? That is why I have not posted in here. To me, it was not gee wonder if my name will be posted at all (it has been and I was absolutely shocked)but whose feelings will I hurt if I don't post their name here. Thank you Abby and the rest of you for giving me the impetus to post my feelings here.

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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 10:00 am
Ok I'm going to jump in with my 2cents and I'm going to keep it short and sweet. Yeah I know I'm never sweet, lol. I applaud you Abby7, BigD, and Rg for posting your feelings. That's what this place is about, expressing yourselves. I'm also sorry you all were hurt by this thread and this was something I was concerned about when I saw Pamy ask Adven about doing this again. But I know both of them didn't and would never start a topic with the intent to hurt people feelings. Fortunately or unfortunately Tvch has alot of members and sometimes someone will say something that will hurt someone's feelings but we also have to remember that it's not intentional and this place isn't about popularity. I don't have an 'A' type personality in real life. I usually like to sit back and observe and never be in the spotlight. But I'm sure no one here would believe that cause I can be very talkative here and that's the reason I do come here, because I feel comfortable expressing myself. Now there are some topics that I don't feel comfortable talking about stuff in so I don't. But that's just me. I also don't consider myself popular here even though many people here tell me I am I really don't believe it inside but that's my hang up. Ok I think I've gone off on a tangent here. Let me bring myself back. I've gone back and forth with myself about posting my answers to the questions and now I've decided not to because I would never want to intentionally hurt someones feelings by leaving them off my list or not voting for them. Now in the games that Adven's started I have no problem with it because it is a game and I take it as such and in the game you have to vote and I don't do it based on personal feelings, I do it because I'm playing the game just like on the reality shows that we all love. Ok I hope I made some kinda sense here but I'm not so sure I did and I've been voted for being prolific, hah! Lol. Ok I'm done, everyone have a great weekend. 
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 10:58 am
Well I thought I was done but I wanted to add one more thing. You aren't going to please all of the people all of the time, everyone isn't going to think like you, and there are people who are here just to have fun and keep things light.
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