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Cinder
| Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 3:53 pm
I'm back. No separate area or line for that matter. Basically if I would have just showed up at 2:45- they would have handed me a paper and weighed me. AAAKKK. One of the employees said there was no difference between weighing in there or online. I asked about the free stuff and he said everyone gets it. He said I should get it in about 2 weeks. When I weighed in I asked the lady "Do you really think there will be enough packets to send to everyone?" She said "Oh yeah- there are 10,000" Do I think they know what they are talking about-NO One employee said he got there at 6AM and there were already 400 people there. The first person in line got ther at 4:30AM. WOW Its done now- and I will wait- skeptically- for my pass to Bally's. Herkle- just read your post. That is inspiring to know that you were told the same thing abou the mail. Our mall handed out the papers and said if people turned them in- without weighing in- they would still get the stuff- so maybe that is what he meant. Pamy- If you have time you should check your store now. My store said they would weigh people until 9PM. Gee- had I known THAT!!!!!!!
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Pamy
| Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 4:10 pm
Sorry you had such a bad experience Cinder. Did they say even if ya just weighed in online you would be mailed the stuff???/
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Max
| Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 4:47 pm
Here's my experience today. Met with my new workout buddy at the MAX (light rail) station at 8:00 for the ride downtown. When the train arrived and 8:45, there was a long line of people already. Here's how it was: The door to the store was on one side of the BIG mall building. The line went all the way down that side of the building and almost to the end of the next side. We got our place, left her daughter to hold it for us and went to Starbucks for coffee. On our way back, we walked past the first people in line and asked them what time they had gotten there -- 6:30! By the time we got back to where her daughter was, the line had grown and went around the second corner of the building. Everyone was friendly and upbeat. I think most of us were just so glad to finally be out of the house (snow and ice had kept most Portlanders home-bound until Thursday), that it didn't seem so bad to be waiting in line. People kept getting off the MAX trains (the stop is right next to the building) and looking at us like we were crazy. They wanted to know what was going on and didn't really seem to understand the allure when we told them. The mall opened at 9:30 and employees from the Discovery Store started moving down the line handing out cards with the estimated time you would get in for weighing and a form to fill out. They got to us just as they ran out of forms (we got the last two) and said that was an intial batch of 250 and more were coming. They said that the line was actually moving faster than they had estimated it would because they had set up a second scale (originally, they were only going to have one) and everyone was being very cooperative. They also told us that if we left the line to come back later, regardless of whether we had a card or not, we'd have to get at the end of the line and basically start over again. Otherwise, they were afraid they'd have a riot on their hands since there wasn't any space to run a separate "appointment only" line. Most people were really nice about the whole thing. One lady came up from further back in the line and started griping to the employee about the wait. Don't know what she expected the gal to do about it! The gal told her that she could come back later, that they were open until 9:00, and that EVERYONE would get the free stuff, although some would have to receive it in the mail. That didn't seem to satisfy her. We wanted to suggest she go get a Caramel Latte and a muffin to help her mood, but we resisted. By the time we got into the store, it was about 11:15 and they were just giving out the last of the packets they had on hand. We didn't get them, but we were told they would come in the mail. We got weighed in at about 11:30. I liked their scale better than mine -- it said I weighed six pounds less! They said that the BMI would be done at Bally's on our first visit, which makes perfect sense to me. Anyway, I don't know how long it will take for the stuff to arrive in the mail. The store employees said that the forms would be Fed Ex'd to the corporate offices tonight, but I imagine they are going to be FLOODED with them, so who knows how long it will take. Hope it's not too long or I will have a hard time maintaining my resolve! After I weighed in, I did a little shopping and then went to catch the MAX train back home. Guess how long the line was then??? (This was about 12:15.) Well, there was the store door, then the line went down that side of the building, around the corner, down the second side of the building, around that corner, down the THIRD side of the building, around ANOTHER corner, and half-way down the FOURTH side of the building!!! I couldn't believe it was that long!!! I bet those store employees will be COMPLETELY worn out by the end of the day. I don't think they had any idea the turnout would be that big. On the website when you went through the survey saying you were going to weigh-in at a store, when it came to locations, Portland wasn't on the list (you had to check "other" for the city), so I don't think they had any advance warning about numbers of people. There was one local news station there, but I only saw them walking by with equipment, didn't see them actually shooting any footage. Crazy! 
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Tess
| Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 5:01 pm
They showed the Mall of America location (my town in MN) on the news tonight and said that they expected about 2,000 people per location. They showed the freebies, the people waiting (hundreds and hundreds), a weigh-in, and they interviewed several people and a couple of store employees. All seemed very positive. good luck, everyone!
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Cinder
| Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 5:39 pm
Sounds like you had fun Max. I must admit- I had less fun because DH went with me and he is very impatient. (I should have INSISTED he stay home- but I think he was concerned about me driving somewhere in St Louis I hadn't been before) But- because he went with me I grabbed an appointment time for my workout buddy(she had a doctors appointment) I think one reason they started making apopintment times was because the line was SO long and I am sure they were worried about other stores complaining we were blocking the entrances. Had I KNOWN that we could all get the stuff in the mail- I would have waited till later to go in. At 2:30 there was barely a line- and those people got the same stuff I got. That is the past- and it is time to plan for April. Time to start the steps to compete.
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Tess
| Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 6:01 pm
Pamy, I completely forgot my main reason for posting earlier. On my news channel, they said that you would get the freebie packet even if you weighed in online, however, you would NOT get the free membership to Bally's. Sorry I forgot to post that earlier.
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Tabbyking
| Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 6:05 pm
max, doesn't sound like too bad of a wait for you! cool about losing your first 6 pounds already LOL when i registered online, i didn't see anything about having a packet mailed to my home. it would be nice, but i won't expect it. perhaps we will get 'everything but the bally's' because we don't have bally's near us? maybe that was part of the criteria for where the walk-in weigh-ins were? wow, that was a 'w' mouthful! i have printed the forms (exercise and food logs, etc) off their webpage and am on my way! ehehehe, cinder--i leave my husband home when i go on vacation!
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Pamy
| Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 6:07 pm
Thanks Tess!
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Cinder
| Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 6:27 pm
Thanks for the info Tess. I will figure something out to find an alternative to exercising at home. It works- but gets boring. Maybe I will even fork out the money for Bally's for a few months.
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Herckleperckle
| Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 6:38 pm
Thanks for the vivid details, both Max and Cinder! What a time you both had!! It was different in Danbury in that the big crowd must not have read the email or online message that it was going to be a wild day. And no one got slips when to come back. My Discovery Channel Store is on the upper level of a large 2-level mall. In the section where the Discovery store is located, a very large center oval (where one of the mall staircases is situated), separates the two opposite sides of the mall. Around it is a nice, thick, polished wooden hand rail. When I arrived, weighing was in progress. The line was wrapped both sides of the handrail, continuing down about 3-4 more store fronts. That shocked me, but I guess I was lucky, compared to your experiences. I got at the end and still could see everyone who was in line. I took a picture! (I'm terrible with pix, but I'll take it in for developing tomorrow and see if it helps give a better idea of the turnout.) In any case, I was so glad to have that railing for support, thinking I might be there for hours and might have to drape myself over it! I immediately started talking with 3 gals, who were so nice. As we talked, the lined moved slowly but steadily. After about 20 minutes, this cute little jock came out and handed out red tickets to the folks who were standing in the first third of the line at that point. I was back about 7 people from the last person who got one and learned it meant that you were guaranteed to receive a packet today if you stayed in line. We (my group of 'instant friends') all looked at each other and wondered if we were out of luck. About 10 minutes later, he reappeared with more red tickets. Got one! We were really exhilarated then! The line was moving well. By the time we'd turned the loop on the handrail, we knew we were home free. Then a gal came out with forms to complete. I'd say within 10 more minutes, I was actually walking into the store. The weigh-in itself was very quick, and the words with the nutritionist were as well, but she did look me straight in the eyes and I felt she was really talking to ME. You know the rest. When I got home, I had my hubby take 3 pictures of me (front, side, back), went and recorded my information in my journal. Max, why don't you print out the journal from the online version and use it temporarily? It's gotta be the same information, or the strictly online people would be cheated.
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Tabbyking
| Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 11:32 pm
you know, i have been good for 3 months now. and i was good today. until dh made homemade, fresh french bread again. dammit! i had 3 pieces of bread and now i have to count about 60 carbs and 200 additional calories onto my food intake for today! i am going to forbid him to make bread ever again! yeah, that's it.
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Herckleperckle
| Sunday, January 11, 2004 - 10:14 pm
I am now nearing the end of Day 2 of my new 'diet' and exercise routine-inspired by the Discovery Channel National Body Challenge. I am feeling better and have lost weight already, believe it or not. Think this is going to work for me. Tabby, I wish I had started 3 months ago. Good for you! Bread has been the downfall for me many times. But I know from LA Weight Loss what I can eat alternatively. So that helps me get through a craving period. Doesn't help to have the aroma of fresh-baked bread wafting thru your home, though!
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Max
| Sunday, January 11, 2004 - 11:22 pm
Well, today I found how to get logged on completely to the Discovery Channel's website with all the personalize menu plans. While they initially compute the number of calories you should have, there is a way to customize it yourself. I did that, upping the daily intake to 1400 but keeping the carb/fat/protein ratios the same as they had set them. Then I looked at the menus they had. There is nothing "normal" on them! They might list something that seems normal, like tuna and crackers, but when you look at the recipe for it, it's really a strange mixture of ingredients. They do have an option for switching out any one item and there is a list of things to choose from fast-food restaurants (and they even cover Burgerville -- something that's only in Oregon -- which impressed me), but the overall menu plan is so out of the ordinary from "regular" foods that I don't think it's usable for me. So, I think what I'll be doing is the e-Diets menus that I used before. My membership is paid until April and I know it works and it's comprised of foods that anyone would normally use (that is, I don't have to buy special kinds of oil or protein powders or a number of other ingredients that I never heard of). eDiets currently sets my caloric intake at 1600-1800 a day with an eye towards losing 1-2 pounds per week. I might try dropping the calorie levels a little, but I'm more interested in long-term results than a quick weight loss. I'm sure the Discovery plan would work, however, I know that dieting like that doesn't work for me for very long simply because I won't do it. It's too specialized and out of the norm. I need something that I can adapt and stick with for the rest of my life, not something that makes me feel like a food prisoner. Now, if that free Bally's membership shows up...
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Tabbyking
| Sunday, January 11, 2004 - 11:27 pm
i am not even looking at the menus that discovery has up, for the same reasons max noted i had 1,200 calories at the most today. i worked off 151 calories on the treadmill (and i'm sure i worked off a few more just doing everyday things, LOL), and i had under 60 carbs. i probably only put on a pound today.... ehehehe.......
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Texannie
| Monday, January 12, 2004 - 7:07 am
Now, I am curious, what are the weird things?
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Herckleperckle
| Monday, January 12, 2004 - 7:40 am
I am smiling. My scales show me I have lost again this morning! I am not following the Discovery diet, either, but that's because I haven't really looked at it. I know the LA Weight Loss Diet by heart and am following it, but not being as particular about weighing and measuring. I am trying to do a lifestyle change, as Konamouse mentioned, rather than a diet. And so far, so good! All I really need some solid, positive feedback on the scales and I will keep going. And I've got it. 
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Jagger
| Monday, January 12, 2004 - 7:42 am
I agree with Max and Tabbyking, some of their menu items are way to complex they all have things in them I don't keep in my house. I think I'd go broke buying groceries if I stuck to their menu plan. They also have me listed for eating a lot more food than I normally would. I may take a few recipies from it, or may even try it after I get myself settled in a bit. For my first breakfast they had me eating 6 egg whites, well that's a half a dozen eggs, there's no way I'm eating a half a dozen eggs in one sitting, they also wanted me to put in onions and tomatoes in with those eggs. Also eat a piece of toast and a cup of grapes. Well I had eggs and onions in the house but that was it. I didn't even look at what I was suppose to eat for any of the other meals.
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Texannie
| Monday, January 12, 2004 - 7:46 am
Check your options to see what type of food is selected. Basic is pretty cut and dry. I clicked the last option because I really enjoy cooking. 6 egg whites would be really the equivalent of 3 eggs. Look at the calorie count, I think you would be surprise how few calories are in 'all that food'. One thing you need to be careful about is depriving yourself of food forcing your body into starvation mode and slowing your metabolism down. Feeling hungry isn't a good thing. You can also check the list of foods and make your own choices.
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Texannie
| Monday, January 12, 2004 - 8:15 am
This is from their brochure, FAQ http://www.in2nutrition.com/discovery/index.cfm?Loc=support&tab=support&CatID=-1 How soon will I see results? You should start to feel better within 3-4 days and you should see physical improvements within 7-14 days. The more closely you follow your program the faster your results. Keep in mind that up to 80% of your results will come from good eating habits. If you are not currently exercising you should start to walk about 1/2 hour per day at an easy pace. Check with your doctor before you start any new exercise programs. Why did I need to enter my Body Fat % ? We use your Body Fat % to calculate your Lean Body Mass [total weight - fat weight]. Lean Body Mass consists of your muscle tissue, organs and bones and is metabolically active [it burns calories]. We use your Lean Body Mass to calculate your macronutrient [ carbs, protein and fat]. Your meal plan is designed to help you maintain or increase your lean body mass while shedding unnecessary body fat. Be cautious of any weight loss program or diet that does not take into consideration your body fat percentage. Will I be hungry ? You should not be hungry. If you are trying to lose fat, you should begin to feel hungry every three hours and this is an indicator to eat a meal. You may begin to notice that you are hungry every 2 or 2.5 hours, this is a sign that you are not eating enough and you need to increase your Activity Level to the next highest level. This will increase your calories. Often this means your metabolism is speeding up. Do not try to gauge hunger in the first couple of days, because your body may be adjusting to the food, potion sizes and timing of meals. What should I drink ? Water. Water. Water. Not drinking enough water can actually cause you to feel tired and slow your metabolism. Coffee: too much caffeine can actually slow down your metabolism. If you drink more than a couple of cups each day, cut back. If you follow your meal plan your body will naturally have more energy and will not need all that caffeine. Tea: watch the caffeine and added sugars in cold tea. Juices: caution: although juices contain some necessary vitamins, most juices are loaded with sugar. We highly recommend eating whole fruit rather than juice, because of the additional nutrients and natural fiber that slows digestion. Energy Drinks: most energy drinks are just sugar water and will not help you lose weight or increase long-term energy. If you are trying to lose fat these drinks will dramatically slow your progress. Drinking these before a workout can completely negate the calorie burn. This information may not apply if you are a competitive athlete. Pop / soda: caution: no nutritional contribution and they contain caffeine and are often are loaded with sugar. Alcohol: caution: no nutritional contribution and slows down metabolism. Try to eliminate or cut back. Do I need to exercise ? We highly encourage everyone to perform both cardiovascular and resistance training exercises. The proper combination of these exercises will maximize your progress and improve your health. If you are short on time and you need to make a choice between grocery shopping and exercise, we recommend that you go grocery shopping and prepare some healthy meals. Developing good eating habits takes time and is critical to optimal health and fitness. Will carbohydrates make me fat ? Carbohydrates do not make you fat. Protein does not make you fat. Fat does not make you fat. Your body needs these macronutrients to be healthy and fit. Be cautious of any diet or eating program that is dramatically reducing any of these macronutrients. Eating more calories that you body burns can cause you to gain weight and for most of you this weight is fat. One pound of fat is the result of 3500 extra calories. General nutrition and eating out tips Focus on improving your eating habits rather than participating in restrictive diets. Go to the grocery store at least once a week to buy some fruits, vegetables and nourishing food. Leave the junk food on the shelves, because what you buy, you will eat. Also, don't buy the junk food for your kids, spouse or relatives. They don't need it either. Try to focus on fueling your body with nourishing food rather than filling your belly with empty, sugar-loaded calories. Your body is a wonderful machine that needs nourishing food to function at optimal levels. Try to eliminate casual calories that often contain no nutritional value. They include: soda, juices, candy, energy drinks and triple mocha caramel double fudge latte coffees. Remember, consuming too many calories will cause you to gain weight. It doesn't matter if these calories come from foods or drinks. Eat smaller portions more frequently throughout the day to help keep your blood sugar levels stable. Stabilized blood sugar levels not only help increase energy, they also will help you burn unnecessary body fat. Try to include some carbohydrates, protein and fat in each meal. When eating fast food or dining out, order the meal as "clean" as possible. That means asking for sauces, dips and dressings on the side. Try to order a meal that contains some carbohydrates, protein and fat. Always keep in mind that the chef does not care if you are overweight or unhealthy. Order food with your health and fitness in mind. Try to eliminate all deep-fried foods. They are loaded with trans-fatty acids. And yes, this includes french fries. I know they taste good, but they have a negative impact on how you look and feel. Try to limit your intake of breads, bagels, potatoes and pastas (these are not the best source of carbohydrates) and replace with fruits and vegetables that will nourish your body with valuable nutrients. Fruits and vegetables also help to slow the aging process and boost your body's immune system. Read food labels. Not all brands are equal and the manufactures do not care if you are overweight or unhealthy. For example, some items are labeled "fat free," yet if you read the food label you will see that the product contains "mono and di-glycerides". This is fat! Also, try to limit foods that contain "hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated oils" as these oils can contribute to heart disease.
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Texannie
| Monday, January 12, 2004 - 8:19 am
Frequently Asked Questions Topic: Ingredients [Print] Salt Regular salt contains a large amount of sodium and can cause you to retain water, be harmful to those with high blood pressure and to those who are sodium sensative. It is recommended to use Morton's Lite Salt in recipes that require salt or if you would like to add extra flavor to your meals. Lite salt contains the correct ratio of sodium and potassium so that it does not have any affect on your body. How do I decide which ingredients to buy? You can generate an itemized shopping after you adjust your meal plan or create your personalized cookbook. We will tell you exactly what to buy. Some of the ingredients have recommended brands that been review by our experts. Just be aware that not all ingredients are manufactured equally and some contain items that negatively impact your progress. We are also trying to make the products that we recommend as convenient as possible therefore some of the items can be ordered directly from your website and delivered to your home. In some parts of the country we have input data from local grocery stores in an effort to help you quickly find the products. Where do I store my bread? Ezekiel Bread has low shelf life so be sure to keep it in the freezer or refrigerator. How are the ingredients selected? Our research team has carefully selected the ingredients that are used to create your personalized recipes. These nutritionally loaded ingredients help prevent sugar cravings, slow the aging process, keep your immune system elevated and provide your body with maximum energy. Some of the factors include: nutritional contribution, taste, availability, and glycemic index. Glycemic Index is a numerical system of measuring how fast a carbohydrate triggers a rise in circulating blood sugar. This is an important number to consider because we are trying to stabilize your blood sugar levels. Apricots Fresh apricots are healthy because they contain lots of betacarotene, the plant form of vitamin A, and which is a good anti-oxidant. They are also high in fiber and low in calories. High Oleic Safflower Oil We use high oleic safflower oil in those recipes that require the stove top to prepare. High Oleic oil is more stable than other oils and will not break down when heated. This is very beneficial to your health, particularly those with heart disease. Oils The oils we use are good sources of unsaturated fats. Your body needs unsaturated fat for health reason but the fat also helps keep you satisfied between meals. Do not eliminate the fat from your recipes because you are concerned it will make you fat. Fat does not make you fat. You should rotate your oils between safflower, olive, walnut and canola as each contributes different amounts of omega 3, 6 and 9. Almonds One of the most nutritious of all nuts. It is naturally high in fat and rich in monounsaturated fatty acids, which can help in the lowering of blood cholesterol level. It is an excellent source of vitamin E and magnesium, and rich in other nutrients such as phosphorus, calcium and iron. . Aspartame / NutraSweet Aspartame is the technical name for an artificial sweetener which is widely used in the food and drinks indusrty. This is an intense sweetener made of naturally occurring amino acids, aspartic acid and phenylalanine. It is 180 times sweeter than sugar (sucrose). Although it has its use as an almost calorie-free form of sweetening, which is beneficial to those on a weight loss diet, the safety is still in question. Avocados This has one of the highest protein contents of any fruit and is easily digestible. It is a good source of vitamin E and also contains potassium, vitamin B6, vitamin C, riboflavin and manganese. It is high in anti-oxidants. Avocados contain high levels of unsaturated fatty acids, which are thought to help lower blood cholesterol levels. The fat content can vary significantly, according to the season. Ezekiel Bread - Flourless Bread This is a great product that we highly recommend. It contains no flour and is loaded with nutrients. Some national grocery chains and most health food stores carry Ezekiel Bread. Ask the manager if they have it or if it can be ordered from the distributor. You can also visit the manufacturers website at www.food-for-life.com and select the Retail Locator to find a store near you. Apples These are highly nutritious fruits that are easily available all year round. They are low in calories. The sweetness of apples (fructose) is released slowly into the bloodstream, which is more beneficial for blood sugar levels than a large rush of sugar. Apples contain high levels of pectin and can therefore help settle an upset stomach. They are also high in fiber. It has also recently been found in scientific studies that eating two apples a day can help prevent cancers from forming, so the old adage ‘an apple a day keeps the doctor away’ was half right! Beans Beans are amazingly nutritious and we should all be eating more of them. Not only are they cheap, but they’re also rich in protein, dietary fiber and complex carbohydrates. They are low in fat too. They are ideal food for people who don’t eat meat. Chickpeas are a good source of manganese, iron, folate, and vitamin E. Soy beans are a good source of phytoestrogens (compounds which can sometimes help symptoms of the menopause), and also provide the best quality protein of any bean. Beef Beef is not necessarily something to be avoided on a healthy, balanced diet. If it is lean, it can contain as little as 5% fatIt t is also a good source of valuable minerals such as iron, zinc, iodine, manganese, selenium, chromium, fluoride, and silicon. Beta Carotene This is a good antioxidant found in plants. It is converted to vitamin A in the body. Examples of foods rich in beta carotene are mango, pumpkin, broccoli, apricots, kale, spinach, and other dark green vegetables Bran This is the outer husk of cereals. Bran is a rich source of dietary fiber, which is known to regulate the action of the bowels. Too much fiber is not a good dietary measure, however, as it can exacerbate irritable bowel syndrome, and reduce absorption of minerals like calcium, iron, zinc and magnesium. Therefore, some bran in the diet is fine, but it is better to eat lots of fresh fruit and vegetables in order to keep the bowels healthy Broccoli It contains very large amounts of vitamin C, good amounts of beta carotene and also some folate, iron and potassium. It is rich in antioxidants and should be eaten as often as possible as it is so nutritious. It can also increase liver detoxification Any substitutes for Ezekiel Bread? Although Ezekial Bread is ideal, an alternate bread would be either Rye or Pumpernickle. Calcium It is needed in large quantities every day to maintain healthy bones. The recommended daily allowance (RDA) for adults is 800mg.Calcium is found in many vegetables, pulses, nuts, dried fruits, whole grains and in water. It is also added to items such as some soy milk, some fruit juices and breads. Carbohydrates These are a major source of energy. At least 50 percent of an adult's daily total energy intake should come from carbohydrates. For example if you are on 1600 calories (Kcal) per day, then 800 calories (Kcal) should come from these carbohydrates, which is roughly 200 grams in weight. Unavailable carbohydrates which are not easily digestible, are also essential for the body to function properly. Chick peas They are low in fat and provide a good source of protein. They are high in fiber, and contain a good supply of manganese, together with useful amounts of iron, folate and vitamin E Curry Powder This is a mixture of different spices, usually including chilli powder, coriander seed, cardamom, cayenne pepper, cumin seed, ginger, turmeric, black pepper, fenugreek, paprika, salt and mustard. Many of these spices were and are still used in traditional Indian medicine for their healing properties. They can help the digestive processes and speed up the metabolic rate of the body. Most spices are potent antioxidants and in fact, chillies have three times as much vitamin C as do oranges, on a weight for weight basis. Curry powder is a rich source of magnesium. Eggs They are a good source of protein, vitamin B12 and unsaturated fat. People with existing high levels of cholesterol should not eat too many eggs, as they do contain cholesterol. Egg whites are even better. Avoid eating raw or lightly cooked eggs in any form, particularly if you are very young, elderly, ill or convalescent, or pregnant. Fats They are an essential part of our body cells. Our reserve supplies of energy is stored in the form of fats, therefore fats are a source of energy for us all. Fats are made of fatty acids - which can either be saturated, polyunsaturated and monounsaturated. Polyunsaturates are found in foods such as vegetable oils and oily fish, and monounsaturates are found in foods such as olive oil and nuts. Polyunsaturates and monounsaturates are more beneficial for health. Some fats are necessary in our foods as they provide essentilal fatty acids, vitamins A, D, E, K and they give mouthfeel to foods. Daily fat intake should average no more than 35 per cent of total dietary energy Folic acid This vitamin is found in green leafy vegetables, particularly the crucifer family which includes broccoli and nuts. Overcooking green leafy vegetables can cause them to lose much of their folic acid content. It is an essential vitamin needed both before pregnancy and during the first trimester to ensure the proper development of a healthy fetus. It is also essential for the formation of red blood cells Fructose This is the simple sugar which is found in fruit. It is digested almost immediately and enters the bloodstream very quickly. Different fruits contain different amounts of fructose. Fruits We are all encouraged to eat at least five portions of fruits and vegetables every day, as they play such an important role in maintaining or improving good health. They are a valuable source of vitamin C, particularly citrus fruit in the winter, and soft fruits such as strawberries, raspberries and red or blackcurrants in the summer and early autumn. Fruit also contains high levels of anti oxidants.Fruits with orange or yellow flesh, such as cantaloupe melons, apricots and mangoes, contain lots of beta carotene, which protects against free radicals and again, possibly, cancer. Apart from all these healthy vitamins and minerals, fruit also contains large amounts of carbohydrates, and some soluble and insoluble fiber. There is always an amazing range of fruits from all over the world in every supermarket. Garlic This bulb has long been renowned for its health-giving qualities. Garlic contains allicin, which has anti-viral, anti-fungal and anti-bacterial qualities. It also contains compounds which are good for the heart in that they lower blood pressure, and help reduce blood cholesterol. Ginger This enhances the flavor of different dishes, coming in its natural bulb form, paste or powder. Ginger is one of the best things around for settling upset stomachs, nausea, travel sickness and sore throats Kidney Beans These pulses are high in protein and low in fat. They are also high in potassium, iron, phosphorus, folate and zinc. Kidney beans are therefore very useful for vegetarians and vegans who need an alternative to meat or fish protein Lemons They are an excellent source of vitamin C and B. Lemon juice is also a good detoxer as it stimulates the liver to expel toxins. Try using lemon juice on foods instead of salt Nuts They are a very valuable source of nutrients. They contain lots of minerals and vitamins – particularly vitamin E, the B vitamins, phosphorus, iron, copper and potassium. They are high in calories and fat but it is largely unsaturated and therefore better for the heart. Oats They contain both soluble and insoluble fiber. Soluble fibre can help lower cholesterol levels in the blood. Insoluble fiber helps maintain bowel function. Oat is a source of protein and excellent source of carbohydrate Olive Oil Extra-virgin olive oil is high in monounsaturates, which can help to lower cholesterol. Onions When eaten raw, onions have been found to reduce levels of cholesterol in the blood. Oranges They are widely available all year round. They are an excellent source of vitamin C. They contain pectin, which is a type of soluble dietary fiber found in most fruits, but especially apples and lemons. It is better to eat a whole orange than to drink the juice. Parsley It is a rich source of vitamin C, calcium, potassium, iron, magnesium and betacarotene. Parsley is a useful and nutritious vegetable, sprinkle it in its fresh form on top of food or in salads Raisins Good for an instant energy boost. They also have the added benefit of being high in iron and potassium. Spinach It is an excellent source of iron, vitamins A and C, calcium and potassium. It is a very powerful anti-carcinogenic vegetable. Do not overcook it. Eating it fresh in salads, stir-frying or steaming are the best methods for retaining nearly all its nutrients, whilst boiling causes most of its nutrients to be lost Tofu This oriental food is made by solidifying soya milk with calcium sulphate. It is high in protein, low in saturated fats and calories, and is cholesterol free. Tofu is perfict for vegitarians.. It contains manganese, vitamin E, phosphorus and iron. Tomatoes They contain antioxidants, but they are rich in lycopene, the carotenoid pigment, which is what makes them red. This may help prevent some cancers by lessening the damage done by free radicals. Tomatoes are also a good source of potassium and vitamins C and E. Yogurt Some people who cannot drink fresh milk can often tolerate yogurt. It is an invaluable source of calcium and phosphorus, for strong bones and teeth, and it also contains vitamin B2 and B12. It has friendly live bacteria which can discourage the growth of harmful bacteria and yeast in the gut. http://www.in2nutrition.com/discovery/index.cfm?Loc=support&tab=support&CatID=10
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Rissa
| Monday, January 12, 2004 - 9:09 am
Jagger, I haven't tried the other menu options...just went straight to the top. For breakfast I just had a serving of oatmeal with 1 diced apple, some cinnamon and a tablespoon of vanilla protein powder all mixed together. I would guess that if you click on basic you will have to do more initial shopping because they will give you prepackaged food that meets the criteria? Probably the more cooking you are willing to do, the more *everyday* ingredients you can use? Just guessing based on the posts here and the menu I was given. Just tried to grab my snack and lunch items but seems they are down for maintenance. Ahh, here we go... for a morning snack I can have: strawberry-nut yogurt, apple cinnamon bar or a banana shake. (Since I am not running out each time I am missing an ingredient, I am using their three day menus to pick and chose, that way I will hopefully have ONE meal/snack on hand.) Since I am leaving to run errands, I will grab one of my diabetes meal-replacement bars instead. For lunch I can have a turkey pita, fruit salad or salmon pattie. I am diabetic (there should be someplace to note that, has anyone seen?) so I cannot eat fruit on it's own and we had salmon for dinner last night, so I guess it's the turkey pita for me.... except I DON'T eat bread AT ALL, so I will wrap the fixin's in romaine leaves instead and add extra veggies for the fibre and carbs. I've posted before that I have already been losing weight... 32 pounds so far (YEH for me. LOL) and am down to my last c20, so I already had a doctor prescribed diet that was working well. But as I get closer to my goal, it gets harder to stay on target and motivated, that's what I am going to use this challenge for. As much as possible I am going to stick with their exact menus which are pretty much what my doctor assigned (except for the diabetic issues).
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Jagger
| Monday, January 12, 2004 - 9:53 am
Until I do some major grocery shopping I won't be able to even try to follow the menu selected for me. When I have some time I'll need to map out some meals and shop from there. I have taken a couple of hints already from the sight, first I am trying to drink more water, I went from absolutely no water up to 4or 6 10 oz glasses a day, with hopes to build that to 8 to 10 glasses a day. I have started eating more often during the day with less food, instead of basically starving myself during the day and goudging myself for about 3 hours in the evening. I've also started to add more salads to my diet, now when I want something quick I'll pull the bag of salad and throw in some cottage cheeze or carrot sticks instead of grabbing that bag of chips. I just started watching what I eat last week and I've already lost 2 pounds, but that may be because of the water and going to the bathroom every 15 minutes.
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Rissa
| Monday, January 12, 2004 - 10:47 am
Hey, two pounds is two pounds... LOL. I remember those first few pounds being the most noticeable (for me) because they WERE water pounds. My gut didn't have that 6 month pregnant/bloated look anymore. LOL I also remember not sleeping well because of middle of the night bathroom runs the first couple weeks. Eating more during the day was/is my biggest challenge too. I would get the kids off to school, then run out for my errands/work, get home around 2.. clean house, get dinner started... kids home at 4, help with homework, clean the house again (LOL) and before you know it, it's dinner and I haven't even had water much less food all day. At that point, no matter how healthy the dinner was, the calorie load would put me to sleep. I was down to about 600-800 calories a day and still gaining weight even though I was putting in about 15 miles a week of running plus a couple hours of weights. Spent a lot of time sobbing as you can probably imagine. LOLOL
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Max
| Monday, January 12, 2004 - 10:58 am
Interesting. When I look at recipes this morning on the Discovery site, it's not including all the incredients. For example, Peach Oatmeal lists 2 tsp raisins and 1 cup peach slices, canned in light syrup then says to cook the oatmeal first, but doesn't tell you how much oatmeal. That's a sample breakfast from Discovery. That's it. No milk nothing else. This one doesn't have strange ingredients, but it doesn't have much food, either. Here's the breakfast eDiets gave me today: 1 serving Morningstar Breakfast Patty (80 calories) THESE ARE SOOOOOO GOOOD!!!!! 1/2 oz. almonds, whole 2 servings bread of choice 1 serving fruit of choice 1 1/4 cups low fat or nonfat milk 1/2 tbsp. low fat or nonfat margarine or spread Now, I grant you that eDiets is working on a 1600 calorie a day plan while Discovery is only using 1400. Also, eDiets plans for three meals and a snack while Discovery calls for six meals (one every three hours), so we aren't comparing on quite an even playing field. However, the eDiets plan is much more appetizing to me and something I'm more likely to stick with long-term than what the Discovery plan is suggesting. That's just me. The important thing is to find what works best for YOU. If it's not something you can do for the long haul, then it might help you lose the weight, but not necessarily help you keep it off. I'm not sure if my nearby Albertson's carries Oleic Safflower Oil or Ezekiel Bread. I don't really want to go look for such specialized foods. Again, that's just me.
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Sherrie
| Monday, January 12, 2004 - 8:45 pm
I wanted to share my experience signing up this weekend. My sister and I got up and at it at 6:00AM. We were in line by 8:00. We could not believe how long the line was already. Through the mall, out through the truck bay and around the building. At 9:30 they started passing out cards that ensured the first 250 people that they would receive a package that day. The next 2000 people would get theirs mailed to them (1 week or within 2-4 weeks,depending on who you asked). I was number 250 and my poor sister was number 251. You can imagine how much fun we are having with that! I weighed in at 12:30 (we were in line forever!!!). The first scale was wearing out and we could not tell if I weighed 155 or 153 so I climbed up on the second scale which said 151. I know that neither of the scales were right since I went to the doctors on Fri. 1/8 and weighed 160. I am off to review the discovery diet.....
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