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Immikeswfe
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04-24-2003

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 12:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Just looking for some other thoughts, it was an interesting interview. Saw a different side of Mel Gibson.

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 12:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I didn't realize just how religious he was and I think I found a new appreciation in him not just his dashing good looks. He is very devoted.

Sherrie
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11-23-2003

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 12:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I thought he tackled a very difficult subject with intelligence and class. He really is a very handsome man.

I was not impressed with Diane Sawyer. I thought she kept pushing him and he answered every question without dodging.

Wendo
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08-07-2000

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 4:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Mamie, I too didn't realize how religious he has become.

I thought Diane Sawyer did a good job. She's not a puff interviewer. The film is controversial both in how The Passion is being presented and how Gibson has chosen to show it. I think the hardball questions were fine.

I was surprised to hear that he believes that the Bible is historical fact. (Though, a traditional Roman Catholic, as he is, would believe this.)

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 7:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I was really impressed with him also. I was also impressed with how much scripture he knew. ***warning broad sweeping generality alert*** but when I was in Catholic school (as a non catholic) they very rarely taught scripture. And most of my Catholic friends talk about how little they know of the actual bible.

Midlifer
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04-16-2003

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 9:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am sorry to say that I wasn't too impressed. He seemed jumpy, jittery, and very defensive. Having come from a Catholic background (but am no longer), I fear his adherence to the old ways of the church. IMHO

Ginger1218
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08-31-2001

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 9:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Can somebody explain to me what would make Diane Sawyer ask him if he was anti-semitic
Does she think he is going to say
"Yes I am anti-semitic Diane."
I don't think so - he is not that dumb
he does want to make money after all

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 10:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
There is a snippet of an interview on MSN where he says he thinks his wife might/will probably/will go to hell because she isn't Catholic--she's Episcopalian. I thought that was sorta interesting. Just found the link: here.

From what I know, Ginger, Gibson was asked about the anti semetism thing because his father is a well-known Holocaust denier, but apparently he's [Gibson's father] also a little addled.

I was and am inclined to skip the film.

Ginger1218
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08-31-2001

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 10:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
me too.

Zules
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08-21-2000

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 11:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Me three.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 11:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It wouldn't do me much good to see Christ's sacrifice as I'd probably keep my eyes closed the whole time. I can't stand violence in films even though I know its just makeup and acting.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 11:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I thought the question on anti-semitism came from the pre movie hype/rumor mills. The one man (was he a rabbi?) that said he 'snuck' into a prescreening at a church auditorium said he changed his original protests, he still believes that the film could give people already anti-semitic a reason to backlash against the Jews today...

I like how the media is clipping his statements that this film is Mel Gibson's vision... he believes that showing the violence helps us to understand the power of the grace and forgiveness.

I couldnt watch Schindler's list, I wont be able to watch this... the reality is what is hard for me to get past... most films portray fiction, fantasy, that I can sometimes sit thru... but the reality films, I have my own reality, thank you very much!!

*G

Faerygdds
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08-29-2000

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 3:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This seems really odd to me! I don't get that this film or any other would cause sweeping anti-semetic feelings.

It just doesn't make sense! Millions of people saw Amistad and there wasn't a sweeping hatred of whites. Millions have seen movies about the holocaust, yet there isn't this sweeping hatred of Germans... so what's the big deal???

Oh.. here we go... The Alamo is going to show soon! I'll bet there be an entire anti-Mexican movement over THAT one! My whole race will get raked over the coals for what happened hundreds of years ago in my home state!

It's silly to think that any movie would cause an anti-race movement.... just silly... and even sillier to think the maker of the movie was against any race because he made the movie. It would make more sense to make a movie because you thought the message or the story were captivating and worth telling rather than because of personal biases... silly I tell you.. just silly...

of course that's my anyways...

Emeraldfire
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03-05-2003

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 3:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I have a newfound respect for Mel Gibson. He has taken a major career risk for his religious beliefs. As a christian I plan on going to see this movie and taking both of my daughters. I think it will be painful to watch, but it will help us to understand the depth of the sacrifice that was made for us.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 3:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It is interesting that he filmed the movie entirely in aramaic and Latin when the prevailing language at the time was Greek. It is obviously some sort of personal journey for Mel Gibson and he has sunk 15 million of his own money into the film. My understanding is that he follows some sort of catholocism which is conservative right down to the latin masses. To me the movie appears to be extremely violent and I find it a complete turn off that religious groups are buying out theatres left and right to show this movie. Something about it seems too cultish to me.

As far as the anti-semetic concerns about the film, I understand that he did do some editing to take out certain portions after it was viewed by some jewish groups.

I am sure that the movie will do reasonably well given the hype and marketing he is doing for the movie. Churches are being given bumper stickers, doorknob hangers, etc. It is a little bizarre.



Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 4:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I too find it bizarre, and more than a little uncomfortable.

At the Daytona 500, the owner of Interstate Batteries, had the movie on the hood of the #18 car driven by Bobby Labonte. They also had the actor who played Jesus in the pits during the race. A comment made was that "We need this movie to have the biggest opening day of all time."

Why? Why do they "need" that?

Emeraldfire
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03-05-2003

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 4:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think that it's such a big deal because it is the first time that anyone in Hollywood has taken on this subject matter, and on such a grand scale.

It probably does seem bizarre because of the fact that so many religions stem from the christian faith that this movie will capture the interest of a large number of people.

Eliz87
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07-30-2001

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 4:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Although the prevailing language at the time was Greek, I have heard before that Jesus spoke in Aramaic. This was probably the reason that language was chosen.

I didn't watch the interview, so I really don't understand what all the anti-Semetic hype is about. Frankly, the Jews DID play some part in Jesus' crucifixion. If Gibson is making this movie based on historical fact (as he believes the Bible is factual), then this factor cannot be left out. I understand that it would be politically correct to smooth it over, but what happened happened. I don't think portraying history in a movie is being anti-Semetic.

Anyway, as for the film, I don't know...I'll definitely wait for the video if I see it at all. I consider myself spiritual, and I don't want to "join the masses" so to speak when it comes to this movie. "Religious" groups become like cattle with something like this, and I certainly don't want to be one of the herd.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 4:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I remember the movie the Robe when I was a child. I remember Charlton Heston playing Moses in some movie. It isnt as if nobody has ever done a movie on biblical stories.

Emeraldfire
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03-05-2003

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 4:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
They have done biblical movies but I'm not sure if they ever did one on the crucifixion of Jesus.

Maybe the big deal is it is Mel Gibson doing it or the press hyping it. I do know the big deal for christians is the subject matter.

Reiki
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08-12-2000

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 4:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I remember the brouh-ha-ha over the movie "The Last Temptation of Christ". I had to cross a protest line to get into that movie because there were some "Christian" groups that did not like that movie.

The Bible is not an objective history of events. There have been many many biblical movies made through the years. They usually crop up on cable channels during Christmas and Easter. For myself, I will stick with my biblical movie of choice, "Jesus Christ Superstar".

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 4:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I remember "The Greatest Story Ever Told"...you couldn't get much grander than that...John Wayne was a Centurion for crying out loud.

One of the best biblical movies that I ever saw was in the 1960's. It was a black and white film called "The Gospel According to Matthew" and it was probably the most realistic version I have ever seen on film.

The film was made by a communist who had no prior knowledge of the events. He happened on a bible a hotel room and started reading. He thought it would make a good movie. What I liked about it was, that the people were real people, not some beautified hollywood version of people, but real people. Mary was not portrayed with a saintly aura, but was rather just an ordinary Jewish mother.

It stayed with me for a long time. It came at a time when I really started to question what I believed versus what I was told to believe.

It's just a movie.

I only saw bits of the interview on Good Morning America, and I have to say that I was actually concerned for Mel Gibson. I thought his behavior was very erratic. He seemed to be very "fidgetty" and not at all calm or poised as he usually is in an interview.

Scorpiomoon
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06-06-2002

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 4:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
All of this Mel Gibson and his movie hype makes me sick.

I thought the whole deal with Christianity was to aspire to be as Christ was and to live by his teachings.

Good for Mel Gibson for having strong beliefs, but this is all about his freakin' ego. He has some strong thoughts on historical events and he happens to have the money and fame to be able to, basically, say to the world: "I'm right. You're wrong. And because I'm a star my views are more valid than yours." How Christ-like is that?

Just the fact that there's a high-powered marketing campaign behind this movie-and it's been churning for months now--just goes to show that this is a money-making, ego-driven project and not some "labor of love".

Why couldn't he take the $15 million and donate it to Catholic charities doing work all over the world? That would have been more admirable.

I am very suspect of the Church of Scientology, but I respect Tom Cruise and John Travolta for keeping their religious beliefs behind closed doors and for not making movies about them. Mel should have done the same.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 5:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Faery, there has been negative press about the new Alamo movie as being anti Hispanic.
I believe why people are stating that Mel's movie is anti semetic is that it shows how brutal the crucifixtion was (it ain't an easy way to die!) and the beatings up to it. Critics feel that while historical the Jews may have been responsible for Jesus' death, by seeing the brutality of the crucifixtion, it will incite Christians to take out their frustrations on the Jews.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 5:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Crucifixion was a method of putting people to death that lasted over 800 years. Alexander the great reportedly crucified 2,000 people. Caligula crucified Jews as a means to entertain the people of Alexandria. It was a common method of the times and the movie should reflect it. Was it barbaric? yes but unusal for the times? No