Archive through December 10, 2003
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Archive through December 10, 2003
Pamy | Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 05:40 pm     I you read the gift exchange thread you will see many of us here make it our focus too. We also make it fun for our kids, while teaching them the real meaning of Christmas. On a side note..I never write Xmas for Christmas, when I was a little girl my Grandma told me not to write Xmas because you take the Christ out of Christmas...to this day, I can still seee her saying this to me |
Reader234 | Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 05:41 pm     It's not the season of suicide The holiday season is stressful, no doubt. And many people develop a mean case of the holiday blues. But the idea that suicides peak during this time is a myth, and one spread by the media. That's a recent finding from the Annenberg Public Policy Center... www.chicagotribune.com 12/07/03 article |
Spygirl | Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 05:59 pm     This is waaaaaaaay off topic now, but regardless of whether or not the suicide rate peaks (that is debatable), it isn't a myth that symptoms of depression increase as well as feelings of anxiety, loneliness, and disconnect. |
Llkoolaid | Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 06:02 pm     Jeepers, my nice way of cursing, do we have to frickin argue about Santa Claus. I say teach your children what ever you believe is right, celebrate the commercial christmas, the religous christmas, the pagan christmas, or no Christmas, whatever Christmas turns your crank. I love it with all the bells and whistles, lights and noise, all the excitement it brings to the kids, the way it makes me feel happy. I will bitc# and moan about all the work but my house will be full of people with good food, good drinks and lots of fun. And when it is over I will vow never to go through that much again until about November 1st of the next year and then I will start all over again. That is what works for me. Now if you want to go volunteer for the needy or give to the needy go enjoy yourself, I do that too sometimes but I also do it all year long. If you want to go to church and focus on religion, then do it, that is what makes you feel good. If you don't like Christmas then just carry on with your normal life, whatever makes you feel good. I am not about to tell anyone that what they believe is right or wrong, nor am I going to critize and pick apart their beliefs. I don't care where Christmas comes from or how people celebrate it, just as long as it makes me happy I will just continue to do it my way and let everyone else do it theirs. |
Hippyt | Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 06:08 pm     YEAH! What she said! |
Twiggyish | Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 06:10 pm     For every positive there is a negative. It all depends on your perspective. |
Llkoolaid | Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 06:10 pm     I should appoligize for my above rant, just a bit of the bah humbug getting to me. I love Christmas and thought I had stumbled into news and views. |
Maris | Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 06:31 pm     Ocean and I do occasionally stumble across other threads. |
Twiggyish | Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 06:38 pm     Hiya Maris! waving =) LL, your post was great. No need to apologize. |
Zachsmom | Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 06:56 pm     Well, I know this Sunday while I am decorating my 7 foot penis, I'll be thinking about menstrual blood & my fertility!! Gives me a whole new meaning of Jingle Bells Jingle Bells If you don't like Christmas or the Holiday Season, that's fine and dandy. But don't be a scrooge and ruin it for others who enjoy the festivities!  |
Reader234 | Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 07:28 pm     ROFLOLPIMP Thank you zmom!! *G and yes I lied!! My above "cryptic" post was a direct link to an article I read in the Chicago Post Tribune on December 7, not meant to incite riots, just struck a nerve with me, and thought of a post here. I apologize if I was insensitive. |
Llkoolaid | Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 07:40 pm     Oh my god Zachsmom, not much makes me laugh lately but you did it. That is the best post of the season. Love ya for it. |
Maris | Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 07:43 pm     Zachs, did you mean JingleBells or JingleBalls? |
Sisalou | Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 07:49 pm     ROFLMAO Zmom!!! edited to add: Maris, your earlier post was hilarious also! |
Zachsmom | Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 08:01 pm     Bells Balls, they boths jingle when you shake em! (except when one "sounds" an Angel gets their wings..maybe a devil gets their horns with the other} hmmmm Actually, I think you are onto something Maris, I just figured out the reason why we hang Christmas "BALLS" on our "TREE"! Reader, about the lying..you know Santa is watching Meridian , I hope you don't think I am making light of your post..it was quite informative and thought provoking |
Sunrvrose | Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 08:14 pm     I came, late to the discussion as usual, to see what the Santa talk was all about. After reading the first few posts...many of which declared, "Jesus is the reason for the season!", and Santa is a somehow evil myth, I was about to jump in explain the myth of a bunch of things. Then I continued reading the thread and discovered that Meridian had beat me to the punch. I think the coolest response to Meridian was from Zachsmom. Too many others ignored the accurate information that Meridian provided. Many others seem to just sink into personal quicksand, once again illustrating my most pettest peve about our culture. <il> Can't we all just get along? Jesus was not born on December 25th and Santa is not a real person. If you love the celebration Jesus' birth in December, tho he was most likely born in August, celebrate it then. And if you love to have your house full of jolly fat purveyors of good will who are all dressed up in a fuzzy red suit, celebrate that. What's the difference? |
Sunrvrose | Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 08:23 pm     Oh, and Zachsmom, I definately have tree envy, mine can only be 4' tall 'cause that is the size of the hole it has to fit into. |
Eliz87 | Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 08:54 pm     hmm I thought it was actually April when he was most likely born. But it doesn't even matter. At least there's one day a year that we've all decided to join together and celebrate on. And Santa is a part of that celebration for most of us. Merry Christmas everyone!!! |
Ladytex | Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 09:02 pm     LL, don't you dare apologize for your above post! You said what many of us were thinking while reading this thread. |
Moondance | Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 09:04 pm     Meridian - GREAT post!!! |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 12:47 am     I think it is about respecting our differences and celebrating what is common.. One of my favorite songs.. by Dar Williams.. The Christians and the Pagans Amber called her uncle, said "We're up here for the holiday, Jane and I were having Solstice, now we need a place to stay." And her Christ-loving uncle watched his wife hang Mary on a tree, He watched his son hang candy canes all made with red dye number three. He told his niece, "Its Christmas Eve, I know our life is not your style," She said, "Christmas is like Solstice, and we miss you and its been awhile," So the Christians and the Pagans sat together at the table, Finding faith and common ground the best that they were able, And just before the meal was served, hands were held and prayers were said, Sending hope for peace on earth to all their gods and goddesses. The food was great, the tree plugged in, the meal had gone without a hitch, Till Timmy turned to Amber and said, "Is it true that you're a witch?" His mom jumped up and said, "The pies are burning," and she hit the kitchen, And it was Jane who spoke, she said, "Its true, your cousins not a Christian," "But we love trees, we love the snow, the friends we have, the world we share, And you find magic from your God, and we find magic everywhere," So the Christians and the Pagans sat together at the table, Finding faith and common ground the best that they were able, And where does magic come from? I think magic's in the learning, Cause now when Christians sit with Pagans only pumpkin pies are burning. When Amber tried to do the dishes, her aunt said, "Really, no, dont bother." Ambers uncle saw how Amber looked like Tim and like her father. He thought about his brother, how they hadn't spoken in a year, He thought he'd call him up and say, "Its Christmas and your daughter's here." He thought of fathers, sons and brothers, so his own son tug his sleeve, saying, "Can I be a Pagan?" Dad said, "Well discuss it when they leave." So the Christians and the Pagans sat together at the table, Finding faith and common ground the best that they were able, Lighting trees in darkness, learning new ways from the old, and Making sense of history and drawing warmth out of the cold. Sigh.. Santa brought our big gifts and I guess the stocking stuffers but I think I always figured Mom did that because she had a cool way of knowing what to put in stockings.. and our parents gave us serious stuff like clothes and books while the other relatives got us toys and stuff like 3000 piece fort apache with jillions of parts and plastic figures that drove Mom crazy  |
Sisalou | Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 05:30 am     grandma got run over by a reindeer.... |
Maris | Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 05:35 am     Now the goose is on the table and the pudding made of fig and the blue and silver candles that would just have matched the hair on grandma's wig. I've warned all my friends and neighbors better watch out for yourselves, they should never give a license to a man who drives a sleigh and plays with elves. |
Sisalou | Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 05:40 am     Sea, that is a nice song. I had forgotten all about those fort apache toys, it seems like we got them every year. Meridian, that was a very informative post. I happen to be a "conspiracy nut" so I have always been interested in the origins of rituals, myths, etc. I recently saw the Bill Moyers interview with Joseph Campbell on PBS and it was excellent. Llkoolaid, I wholeheartedly agree with your post. To each his own. I come to this board to "feel good" , have fun, not argue with people. {AND, I sure don't come here to worry about my grammar or spelling) Happy Holidays! |
Sisalou | Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 05:41 am     LOL Maris, Thanks for the morning smile! |
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