Archive through October 15, 2003
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Archive through October 15, 2003
Goddessatlaw | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 05:26 am     I feel sorry for the fan, even if he made a move. He doesn't deserve to be spat upon, physically abused and threatened. The Cubs choked, period. It's their own fault. Hopefully Kerry Woods will pitch the game of his life tonight and we can move into the World Series. Go CUBBIES!!!!!! |
Ladytex | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 06:35 am     Ackkk!!! Go Cubbies!! |
Crazydog | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 07:02 am     I don't feel sorry for that fan at all. The Cubs have been waiting for 58 years to get back to the World Series. If Alou had caught that ball, it would have been two outs, and they are that much closer to ending the inning. Now the Cubs are feeling the pressure, and I am worried. When they were up 3-1 I was certain there would be celebrating here in Chicago. Now, perhaps not. That fan should move out of the city. He is a disgrace. The local news (WGN) showed him leaving the park, he was being yelled at and things were being thrown at him. He deserves every single bit of abuse he is getting. If the Cubs lose tonight, he will go down in infamy along with that goat, and Leon Durham. They identified him as a 26 year old man, so they know his name. Eventually, his name will get out, and he will be hearing about it for the rest of his life. Just like that 11 year old fan that caught Derek Jeter's non-homerun back in 1996 or so. If I were that "fan", I would have left Wrigley immediately. |
Sasman | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 08:13 am     This is what the Cubs did to their fans last night - CHOKE |
Tabbyking | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 08:34 am     i have no idea what you mean about a goat or who leon durham is, so maybe people will forget in a zillion years or so. i don't think that one fan can be blamed for the marlins getting 8 runs that inning!! stupid move? yep. but he didn't lose the game. c'mon cubbies, quit blaming and start playing that great ball you played earlier!! |
Ryn | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 08:48 am     AAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Goddessatlaw | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 11:03 am     If everyone would please take a knee one more time Dear Saint Harry Carey: Sir, in case you weren't looking last night the buzzards came home to roost on Wrigley Field once again. And we accept responsibility for this, because clearly we failed to absorb sufficient amounts of white lightening: the offending fanatic with the Achy Breaky shag haircut was allowed to leave the premises with his snags still attached to his mug. Hell, he probably even still had that damned ball in his hand. We are deeply mortified by our lack of obeisance to your outstanding leadership and example. It will not happen again. Sir, if you could see your way clear to crap all over those Marlins and send the Cubs to the World Series, we swear the stands will look like Caligula's barnraising by the end of the game. We will drink like little beastmasters, Saint Harry, and we will make you look like a non-starter in the alcohol poisoning olympics. Please, Harry - we're begging you. We can't take it anymore. Send us to the Series, just DO IT, Harry. Praise Saint Harry and pass the chappel wine. Amen. |
Crazydog | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 11:27 am     And now we have a name. Steve Bartman, a 26 year old from Northbrook who works for Hewitt Associates in Lincolnshire. Chicago's #1 persona non grata |
Ladytex | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 12:14 pm     Amen, GAL ... LOL |
Jed245 | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 12:26 pm     Ok at great risk to myself I came in here to post something. :o) I'm not a baseball fan... not a cubs fan. But, I don't hate the sport or the team. I have seen alot on the news lately about a fan touching a ball that "might" have been caught. I also hear that had the ball been caught it wouldn't have automatically meant "cubs win". I don't know the score of the game. I don't know for sure what the possibilities were of that ball being caught. Just a personal look at the tape of the fan that touched the ball, which, bounced outta his hands. There was more then just one guy reaching for that ball. There were what looked like four. Of the four that I saw reaching out one of them almost touched the ball, but, didn't quite get to it. Had the ball been four inches to the left it might have been him that had touched the ball. I Heard no talk of him or the others being pelted with insults or beer. Being in his place I wonder how many of those same beer pouring fans would have done the same? Being in his place I wonder how many of the people that want his head right now would have had thier hand up for the ball? Though baseball isn't my sport, I am a sports fan. I know what it's like to have your hopes and dreams of your team being #1 seem to crumble. But, I don't see why all the anger? Jed. :o) |
Azlen | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 12:43 pm     Ask Bill Buckner. That's why they call them scapegoats. |
Ocean_Islands | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 12:51 pm     The fan did nothing wrong and nothing that at least 75% of the fans in the park would have done: try to catch a fly ball. The catch/out would not even have shut down the inning in any case. |
Tishala | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 12:57 pm     I just heard hosts from two talk radio stations in Chicago say that they are not publicizing the name of hte gentleman who touched the ball, unlike some irresponsible media outlets in Chicago. It amazes me that there are newspapers and TV stations who think a baseball game is more important than a person's livlihood--telling people where he works! Indeed! I guess we should be surprised, but when people offer to kill the alledged rape victim so Kobe can go free, I no longer am. This kinda crap just degrades sports, IMHO. |
Crazydog | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 12:59 pm     It would have made two outs. There was only one runner on first. The team would not have been so rattled. There's a pretty good chance they would have gotten out of the inning. The reason why everyone is picking on Steve Bartman is because it was his hands that were inches above Moises Alou's glove. He couldn't even catch the ball, it hit his hands and got knocked away. Had he not caught it, the ball would have fallen right into Alou's glove. A responsible baseball fan, especially a fan for the home team, would have gotten out of the way if he saw his own team's player reaching for the ball. But he was too concerned with getting a souvenir. He was probably already trying to figure out how much he could sell on Ebay a ball from the game that put the Cubs into the World Series. Now, he goes down in infamy. He better pray that the Cubs win the game tonight. I have no problem with the paper printing his name. They print the names of drivers who cause fatal auto accidents all the time. |
Jefe | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 01:22 pm     Crazydog you can't assume that Alou would have caught the ball it might have popped out or hit the heal of his glove and we will never know. Besides it's the team that lost the game not one fan. |
Jed245 | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 01:23 pm     A fatal auto accident is different then someone who tried to get a souvenir. I'm sure that everyone that played in the game will survive. They make millions to play a game that kids beg to get permission to play. This man will likely suffer more insults and possible bodily injury/property damage. From fans that lack the intelligence to reason that this is a GAME. Like Aslen said he's a scapegoat. And like crazydog said...it would have made two outs. That doesn't sound like the turning of a 8-3 victory. Sides people they get another chance. :o) |
Tishala | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 01:29 pm     I kinda hope it is only sarcasm that pairs the fan with "drivers who cause fatal auto accidents," but it's probably not. I guess it really pays to be a Cubs fan: when the team loses, it is because of another fan and not, for example, because of Gonzalez's botched fielding or because Dusty doesn't have a pitcher warmed up, so he brings a reliever in to throw an intentional walk and THEN to start *really* pitching (to one batter) before he intentionally walks another batter...Hell, it was a foul ball, not a home run ball. They still could have gotten the batter out. They panicked instead. Fact is, the fan didn't reach into the playing area; Alou was reaching into the fan area. When they start paying the fans millions of dollars a year like they do Alou and Gonzalez, I think it will be fair to criticize them in the newspapers. |
Jefe | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 01:30 pm     Yankees 1-0 Top of 2. Jason Giambi solo home run. |
Jefe | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 01:48 pm     Same score end of 2 |
Ladytex | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 01:52 pm     Thanks Jefe ... |
Egbok | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 01:56 pm     Yes, thanks for the update Jefe. I'll check back later from my cubicle... |
Jefe | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 01:56 pm     Top of 3 no out 1-1 Varitek solo home run. |
Ocean_Islands | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 01:58 pm     Prior was already faltering and I don't believe that it is the fan's fault that they lost the game. If anyone it's the guy who didn't pull Prior when he was weakening. |
Jefe | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 01:59 pm     I'll be here till I have to go to school at 6pm PST. |
Ocean_Islands | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 02:00 pm     I really hope they win tonight, if not to just get the pressure off this guy. |
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