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Grooch

Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 07:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok. I am not even going to comment on Sunrvrose's post about only being able to fit a 4 foot tree into a "hole".

Grooch

Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 07:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sisalou, have you ever watched the show Biography on the A&E channel? They did an excellent one on Santa Claus and his origin and history through the centuries. It's out on video and if you can find it, I highly recommend buying it.

Texannie

Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 09:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
A Child's Wonder

"Daddy", he said, his eyes full of tears,
"Will you talk to me and quiet my fears?
Those bad boys at school are spreading a lie
'bout the impossibility of reindeer that fly.

There's no Santa Claus, they say with a grin
there's not one now, and there never has been.
How can one man take all of those toys
to thousands of girls and boys?

But I told them Daddy, that they were not right,
that I would come home and find out tonight.
Mamma said wait until you come home.
Please tell me now that I was not wrong."

His Daddy looked at his questioning face
and puffed his pipe while his frantic mind raced.
He had put this off as long as he could,
he had to think fast and it better be good.

Whispering a prayer, he began with a smile,
"Well climb on my lap, dear, let's talk awhile.
Remember at church how we learned to pray,
asking God to take care of us each day?

And you know how we say grace before each meal?
To this same God whom we know to be real.
Though we never see him, we know he is there
watching his children with such loving care.

God started Christmas a long time ago
when he gave us His son to love and to know.
A spirit of giving came with that birth,
and God's generosity filled the whole earth.

Man had to name this spirit of giving
just as he names all things that are living.
The name Santa Claus came to someone's mind
probably the best name of any to find.

There is, you can see, and I think quite clear
Truly a Santa who visits each year.
A spirit like God, whom we never see,
he enters the hearts of your mother and me.

Each year at Christmas for one special night
we become him and make everything right.
But the real spirit of Christmas is in you and in me
and I hope you are old enough now to see
that as we believe and continue to give,
our friend Santa Claus will continue to live."

Author Unknown

Sisalou

Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 09:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Grooch. I haven't seen that program but I am going to go check for it on Amazon. It sounds like something I would like. :)

Meridian

Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 09:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank you all for your supportive comments. There is so much more to holiday celebrations than we realize.

Sisalou, Joseph Campbell had an incredible understanding of the origins of mythology. If you ever have a chance to read his research, please do so! As a contemporary and friend of Jung, Campbell encouraged exploration and a better understanding of archetypes.

Jung was also an alchemist who studied ancient ritual and cosmology. Together, the impact of myth on Jung's pyschological studies becomes even more apparent.

http://www.kauaicc.hawaii.edu/programs/liberalarts/english/eng215/index_files/frame.htm
(excellent slideshow which connects Campbell, Jung, and mythology)

http://www.gnosis.org/jung_alchemy.htm

Hippyt

Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 09:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm glad to see this thread has taken a positive direction! I am really still wondering who DIDN'T get modded here in the last 3 days! :)

Brenda1966

Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 10:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Seamonkey -- I've never heard that song -- sounds great!

Zachsmom -- I'll never look at my "slim pine" tree the same. LOL!

Any Hippyt -- I was so embarrassed to be modded in the Santa thread....

Llkoolaid

Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 11:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey Hippy you better be careful, he's makin a list and checkin it twice lol

Julieboo

Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 12:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Texannie, that was so sweet!

What parts got modded?

Lostintheglades

Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 01:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What Llkoolaid said up there!!! To each his own, it's the "Holiday Season".....to me that means whatever you feel like celebrating, do it and do it however you want to. I send Christmas cookies to my Jewish friends and they send me matzah ball soup....who cares? It's about friendship, giving, love, kindness, religion and everything else that's good in this world. Lighten up, have some egg nog and hug someone!

Really good stories and poems up there...thanks for sharing.

Reader234

Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 04:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Texannie... to quote a Andy Griffen Show...

"that'n made me cry"

The only thought I had today was from Shakespeare,
"to each His own" I applaud each of you in your decisions on how to raise your families, because I know its not an easy task. When you care, you research, and you question yourself, and I will not argue that!!

Just dont nobody tell me *I*'m raisin my youngns wrong!! I look at my boys, and I swell with pride. Last Christmas my 18 year old stayed up till 2 am helping us wrap. Then he made us go to bed, he wanted to "finish". Well, he wrote a Santa letter to DD, and he ate the cookies, he then spread candy red sugar in the shape of the heart on the plate, and then went outside to place some reindeer poop, (dont ask!!) and more glitter...

At 18, he took on the tradition, and added to it, for that I decided, I must've done something right.

Btw, he's NEVER ever mentioned that he doesnt believe in Santa Claus!! I always dreaded that conversations, because I'm sure I would've done what Pamy did. Yet, my fav movie is Wizard of Oz, there's no place like home, so my kids accept I'm just plain weird!! :) and love me just the same!!

and I really dont understand why people get so hung up on the date. OF course the Christians picked a pagan day, they had a purpose in mind... it can, and will, and is being debated all over... its just a day. I applaud those that are born near any holiday, or tragic event (Pearl Harbor Day, Sept 11 now comes to mind) and find a way to celebrate thier birth (my cousin does 6 month birthdays - who am I to argue or question? its just a date...)

Pamy

Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 06:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Texannie..your poem gave me chills and brought tears to my eyes...I wish I had that memorized when my son asked me!!!

LOL LL!!

Twiggyish

Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 06:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Meridian, I'm also aware of the origins of many Christmas traditions. I find it interesting.

I just find Christmas to be fun for the whole family. It's about being together and sharing. I love the whole corny thing... from music to twinkling lights and YES..Santa, too.

Allietex

Thursday, December 11, 2003 - 02:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ran across this and thought we might use it to decide if Santa was real, but after reading the whole thing, I guess not. Fun though.

http://www.lilesnet.com/Christmas/humor/default.html

Allietex

Thursday, December 11, 2003 - 02:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oops! the link did not work. don't know what I did wrong.

Crossfire

Thursday, December 11, 2003 - 03:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Linkage for above

Allietex

Thursday, December 11, 2003 - 03:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks, Crossfire. I have not done a link in awhile and I guess I am leaving out a step.

Curious1

Thursday, December 18, 2003 - 11:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I found some interesting articles on different theories behind several Christmas traditions at the Domestic-Church.com site. I especially like the theory behind "the twelve days of christmas" song. if you go to www.domestic-church.com and click on articles about half way down the page there is a link to an article called Advent Traditions part three. The article explains the meaning behind a partridge in a pear tree and all the other words. It is very interesting.

Grooch

Thursday, December 18, 2003 - 11:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Tonight on the A&E channel they are showing the biography of Santa Claus. I think it will be on at 8 pm.

Serate

Thursday, December 18, 2003 - 11:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"On a side note..I never write Xmas for Christmas, when I was a little girl my Grandma told me not to write Xmas because you take the Christ out of Christmas...to this day, I can still seee her saying this to me"

Actually the first use of XMAS wasn't originally intended to leave out Christ. It's an abbreviation of the Greek spelling of the word "Christ" with the "X" representing the Greek letter chi.

That being said, I still hardly ever write XMAS for the same reason, and I do cringe when somebody pronounces Christmas/Xmas "ex muss" which alot of people where I just moved to say.

Julieboo

Thursday, December 18, 2003 - 11:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I even hate it when ads or cards say Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas. If you pay attention, you'll see Happy Holidays a lot and Merry Christmas not so often.

Ocean_Islands

Thursday, December 18, 2003 - 12:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Those are cards for people who are not Christians and don't celebrate Christmas but do celebrate New Year's.

Maris

Thursday, December 18, 2003 - 12:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I never buy cards that say Merry Christmas, my friends dont all celebrate Christmas but they do celebrate the season.

Landi

Thursday, December 18, 2003 - 12:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
with all of the different cultures in america (we are a melting pot), a lot of people do not celebrate christmas as a christian holiday, but celebrate a season of love and family and giving. happy holidays is appropriate when you are not aware of people's religious beliefs. it's a strange place to be so politically correct for everyone. <sigh>

Ginger1218

Friday, December 19, 2003 - 10:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Menorah

Abby7

Friday, December 19, 2003 - 10:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
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edited to add: oops, I tried, but it didn't work. anyway, HAPPY HANUKKAH :>)

Abby7

Friday, December 19, 2003 - 10:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
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okay, i dared to try again...let's just call it very, very abstract...okay? lol

Mocha

Saturday, December 20, 2003 - 06:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Abby, I so love your original artwork. I've been meaning to say that for awhile.