Archive through October 28, 2003
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Zachsmom | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 10:54 am     (((HUG MOONIE))) I don't want to clutter this thread about my Aunts, but since a couple of asked, they are both doing poorly. Nadine has tightening of the chest and is having a hard time breathing. She told me, very sincerly, that she is ready to die. Breathing is very uncomfortable for her right now. Aunt Dot is still on oxygen, breathing is very hard, she sound awful. They are leaving their home in Santee as they are without power. |
Kaili | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 10:55 am     Thanks both of you! I hope your families and friends are all doing well and are all safe. |
Reader234 | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 10:56 am     Moon, the website you posted was awesome! I posted it and had the kids take a look, they couldnt believe how wide spread it is, and with the info Zmom posted, I am able to give them a stronger sense of how devastating this is. Here, when we see the pics it almost seems like, well ok, so a house burned, yeah the woods are on fire, but with your help, I'm able to give them a stronger picture of why it is so devastating! So glad you are safe {{{HUGS}}} |
Zachsmom | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 10:57 am     I also want to say, when they catch these people who have started these fires, I hope they are convicted of murder and not just arson. |
Seamonkey | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 10:57 am     Moon and others living with the horrible smokey air.. TAKE more vitamin C.. several doctors have mentioned that this is one way to help your body fight the effects of all that smoke and particulate matter. Still catching up on the thread but of course best vibes going out to all here, all not here, all the firefighters and so on. |
Egbok | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 11:03 am     Hi everyone, I'm at work with no news update access on the fires. Is there any word on the Rim of The World High School? Thanks! ~Eggie |
Tishala | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 11:12 am     Eg, they have ordered evacuations of Lake Arrowhead. I will let you know about the school when I hear. |
Moondance | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 11:24 am     So far the High School is spared. |
Moondance | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 11:25 am     I am so sorry ZMom... I can't image how much trouble they are having... the air here is too much on me and I am healthy. |
Moondance | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 11:38 am     Good point about the Vitamin C MsMonkey |
Tater | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 11:39 am     As a former Cali gal I know how scarey this can be. My heart and prayers go out to all my new friends at TVCH. Stay safe and stay in touch. ((((TCVHers and Families)))) |
Whoami | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 11:40 am     Oh Moonie, I started to cry just to see your name on the board again! I know Weiner and Glenn are already doing a great job talking to you. But please add me to your list of someone you can call at ANY time! And I mean ANY time. We stay up late anyway, and even if I were asleep, I never have a problem falling back asleep (just bear with my groggy confusion for the first minute while I wake up ). I mean it..2am, 4am or whatever. If you need an ear, I'm here. OK? Kittee, your sis-in-law and husband are added to my prayers. I can't imagine how frustrated all the firefighters must be feeling, to work so hard and have these fires still have so much power. I saw one of those picture galleries, and one of the pics was of a woman saying "where are the firemen?" I guess some people just don't get the magnatude of all this. Incidentally, they showed on our (Denver) news last night some equipment and personnel getting ready to leave Colorado Springs, and the Boulder area to head on over to CA to help fight the fires. Weiner, stay safe. I hope the fire stays away from your house. I'm so sorry to hear about your sister's partner's mom's house. So much loss, and there's little anyone can even say at this point. My prayers go out to her. Babyruth, I'm so glad to hear your mom made it to Detroit safely. I was going to ask you about her. Zmom, your concerns are just as valid as any one else's here. Your posts will NOT be cluttering this thread! Please keep us updated on your aunts. My prayers to them as well. Haven't talked to my sis yet today. Just talked to her receptionist at the clinic, and at least they're open today. Sis is supposed to call me back. |
Moondance | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 11:43 am     MsWho you are wonderful Keeping good thoughts for your Sis! I need to go again and see what I can do... will check in later |
Zachsmom | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 12:10 pm     fire in Lake Arrowhead |
Seamonkey | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 12:13 pm     MsMoonie, just trying to protect your lungs.. Z-mom, your aunts aren't cluttering up this thread, in fact they are very much a part of this thread, which is, after all, about love and caring and tvchkindness. Aunt Nadine.. wow.. this is bringing back sad memories with my mom.. but you have to acknowledge her feeling of wanting to just give up, but maybe gently remind her that this is a crisis and things should get easier (breathing). I'm sure she knows that you don't regain lung function. Stress is especially hard for her. And you, my roomie friend, maybe skip some cigs and dedicate the skipped ones to Aunt Nadine. Who has said much of what I might have said here.. just scrolled up to see.. But still, Babyruth, so happy your mom made it safely to Detroit (I will refrain from commenting on Detroit; I escaped at age 13, but I know it has some redeeming features) Who, hope your sis checks in, but sounds like she's pretty busy, and that's good. Breaking news, fire in Sky Crest.. Frankly I think the media types, feeling the need to fill spaces with their words, tend to feed the criticisms of the fire management.. right now I'm hearing several of them argue about backfires that did and didn't work.. AND, EGGIE!! one did say the backfire may have saved Rim of the World School.. which sounds like the school is still there at this moment. The one guy (channel 4 NBC) is still ragging on what didn't work, saying it is a raging controversy, maybe not the time to talk about it (you got that, CHUCK). OK.. end of rant. OK, I lied.. now Chuck is criticizing people who stay to try to save their home.. and yeah he has a point, but.. I'd like to take a firehose and wash him off the screen.. Now he's on to ragging on nothing done about the bark beetle infestation. bleh.. switching channels looking for actual fire coverage.. this discussion to be shelved.. Lanzee.. I think we need a special sign for CHUCK.. similar to Jon's but just one hand, with a microphone, smug look on face. |
Whoami | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 12:16 pm     Sis called back. Looks like everything is okay. They are pretty much back to normal. Her friend's houses are okay, but still smokey in their area, so they're still staying with her. Her hubby isn't going to work today either, cause it's too smokey. I can only imagine how stressful it will be for those whose homes end up being okay, only to move back in and look across the street to see other homes burned to the ground. "Bad view" aside (and the least of worries), I know if it were me, I'd be feeling grateful, but terribly guilty. |
Moondance | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 12:23 pm     I need you all again! I just got a call from my best friend... her Pops(Grandfather) lives on BigBear Lake and they just were given a mandatory evacuation. He is pretty old and stubborn. Kim said he sounded rushed and worried. We are trying to find out where he is going...he really can't drive very well and it is LONG drive down the mountain. This never ends! I have to stay here for awhile until we decide what to do. |
Yankee_In_Ca | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 12:25 pm     I haven't posted until now because I didn't want to clutter up the thread, but I have reading this thread religiously -- several times a day -- since these horrible fires started. I've been hanging (silently and anonymously!) by a thread waiting to hear news from all TVCH members affected by this, as well as all your loved ones as well. I just wanted to say that I'm thinking about you all -- often. I even talked with my partner about several of you -- and I never talk about TVCH with him! Special thanks to all who have been helping pass along messages and for offering so much help. Wonderful hearts... All my best wishes to all of you in Southern CA, and all your loved ones. Please stay safe. Yankee |
Weinermr | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 12:26 pm     Will pray for Pops, and his safe evacuation. And again Moon ... if I can do anything to help, you know where to find me. |
Abby7 | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 12:27 pm     Seamonkey: I agree, I can't believe Chuck Henry (I think that is his last name) is talking about what should have been done years ago NOW. This is all so devastating. My prayers are with all of you, and your friends and family. The firefighters are really feeling the exhaustion. |
Abby7 | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 12:29 pm     Yes, Moonie all Lake Arrowhead/Big Bear is evacuated. I just heard most people are most likely already out as the roads are not full. |
Abby7 | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 12:32 pm     San Diego fires: cedar fire, paradise fire (near valley center).....they are starting to contain it. Today is the first time they have been able to to perimter control. Cedar Fire 60% contained. |
Whoami | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 12:34 pm     Prayers to Pops!!! And if I hear one more person saying they don't want to "clutter up this thread" I'm gonna go out there personally and slap you silly. {{{{Yankee}}}} {{{{Zmom}}}} This thread is all about caring and giving by those of us who are too far away to do anything but pray. And its about having a place to go to report in, and ask for prayers for those who are in the thick of things. Nobody but NOBODY clutters up this thread by posting. So THERE! As Mammy Yokum in Lil' Abner would say....I HAS SPOKEN!!!  |
Seamonkey | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 12:42 pm     Moonie, I gather the only ways out (but not in) are down toward the desert, or down to the Yucaipa area. Moon, where does Kim live? I hope Pops can get some help driving out.. and then hook up with Kim if she is somewhat local.. |
Abby7 | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 12:44 pm     Egbok...I think you were asking earlier about Rim of World High School. The high school is still standing, looks like it will be saved (at least right now). Tisala, is the sky smokey near you. I think I am close to you. Yesterday, the sky wasn't smokey here where I live...but today it is. I'm next to Universal Studios. (On Barham Blvd. and Forest Lawn Drive.)
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