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Zachsmom

Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 06:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL ..I think it's great that you guys had an alliance..and that you pulled it off!

It was a really great game!

<granny..next game..you & me to the end!>

Twiggyish

Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 06:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is anyone watching TS tonight? It's a riot!!

Mak1

Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 06:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'll be on the sidelines cheering you both on.

Mak1

Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 06:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm watching now, Twiggy. OMG, pumpkin and aubergine together? That room is going to look like a circus. YUCK!!!

edited to say: I really would cry if they did that to my house! It makes me feel kind of sick just seeing it on tv.

Twiggyish

Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 06:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Come over to the TS thread!

Squaredsc

Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 07:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
lol mak i wish. i really never even thought of alliances.

Grannyg

Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 07:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Zmom............I've got your back!! me and you to the end!!

Twiggyish

Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 07:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Most of the time we didn't know what the others were doing with their voting. It was very difficult to vote. Half the time I just as soon would have LOVED to skip voting.

Reader234

Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 07:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL, I fell asleep!!

OK, fine, here's my story. I knew squared and Granny and Lance and Adven were all great posters, so I figured they were in an alliance, so right at the beginning of the RA's I read from Adven to email people to get in an alliance. So I did (I wont name her!! ) Then Jan and I were bonding over at the Starting Over thread, and she set up this folder thing. I was trying to figure out if she was the mole (because those emails I sent to her kept getting bounced back) So I posted some stupid stuff in the folder, and sure enough, Adven posted there, et el. Then I was afraid people would take THAT the wrong way, so I tried to at least archive it so it would "go away" You know it just wouldnt archive... but that served to confuse people even more. I figured that worked to my advantage, to bad I didnt plan it, I just really stumbled over my own stupidity.

So I frantically searched for another alliance. Mak answered me and offered up Twiggy. Then Twiggy asks if squared could join. I said yes, but told Mak I'm sure Squared knows I'm an idiot and will infiltrate us and sink us fast. But it should be fun to watch the leaks. Then it turns out she wasnt in our alliance, and my emails still were getting bounced (I really would like to know how the mole sabotaged my email btw!!)

So then I start scrambling for one more person. Zmom, Granny did ya happen to notice my posts in your folders? Did ya not noticed I left my email in there - hint hint!! Oh yeah, my emails werent getting thru!! LOL I knew you(as in anybody/everybody) couldnt keep a secret,and by this time I was probably taking the game too serious!!

Oh and somehow I thought Jan set Lance and I up in an alliance. His emails got thru... but he didnt take the hint either!!

I kept thinking I was like in a celebrity mole running around trying to get anybody to be in an alliance, I thought the whole point of reality games was to get an alliance, and since we didnt know how the game was going to end, I thought I could score points by having at least ONE alliance.

We finally got our act together, voted as an alliance (and my hints in zmom and granny's folders didnt soften them up AT ALL they voted to boot me!! lol!!) but by then ADVEN was so on to me, that he booted my butt out!! (as any good control person should do, alliances are bad for ratings - imho of course!! *G)

So I apologize to all for confusing you, (and being such an idiot!!) LOL, I should also mention that first post I made, the "aubergine + the tiger" that was SO by coincedence!! I had NO idea at that time that Adven had said I was "in the game" that page had rolled over, but I was planning on playing from the sidelines, I couldnt resist, esq since squared was such a charismatic poster!! I truly just wanted to get to know y'all better. I was so flabbergasted to see that I was part of the game - imagine my jaw dropping when I went back and read those posts, good thing I "accidently" posted that tiger!! It was truly a "you're kidding me" moment!!

Thanks you all for being so accepting of me. I know I've said this many times, but the game did a wonderful job of filling a void in my life. I was doing a lot of crying back in the beginning thinking of Zack (the 6yr old who died in a bizarre soccer accident) I know I would've healed just fine, but this way was just so much more fun!! I do feel lost, and still wander around the rooms from time to time!! Lance, you sure kept up the spirits when it was needed most, you werent posting much until you were booted over at the evictee house!!

ah well, I rambled far too much!!

Lancecrossfire

Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 09:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have a funny approach to such games as this--I admit it. While on a team, I work my hardest to do my part for the success of the team/tribe.

But once a merge takes place, I see it as an individual game, and play as such. If I were in Survivor, I would never join an alliance, because it's an individual game. The best person can't win if it's 4 on 1 against them. I realize it's allowed--it's just not something I'd choose to do. Besides, eventually, if the people in the alliance go far enough, they have to go against each other.

Now, this game was a bit different for me--ok, a lot different. While I wanted to do well,a nd wouldn't complain at all about winning, I had higher priorities on my mind. I wanted this to be a game where folks could have a lot of fun, laugh, and get to know each other. I wanted the newer folks to feel like they belonged, and have both longer and shorter term members interact.

So I did things that I hoped would promote that. I was impressed at how folks who hadn't posted much on other parts of the board were jumping in and showing a lot of themselves--and how everyone supported each other and joked with each other even though we were all competing.

I realized it was possible I was getting in the way of what Adven was trying to do--but hoped that I wasn't, and just kept going.

I didn't post as much in the game area while in the game because others were doing great--so I figured why fix something that isn't broken.

I posted a lot in the evicted house, because once out of the game, in real life that is the only place I could be. Also, the posting wasn't as heavy there typically, so wanted to keep everyone fed and make a few jokes in the process.

Ok, and sometimes, just like ZMom, real life made it so I couldn't always post. I think the folks who had alliances set up did very well with them. Heck, I think the folks who didn't have one did well too.:)

Adven

Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 04:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, Reader, I'm not as bright and crafty as you think. I was largely unaware of any alliances and I was the one receiving your votes. There was one point where 3 of you voted the same two out and I received the votes within a few hours of each other which made me suspect an alliance might have formed.
I evicted you over Lori because I thought the two of you were dead even as players and I went with the one who had won more immunities. Had I known you were clever enough to put a secret alliance together, who knows, I might have chosen differently. I don't know, though, Lori was formidable and it would have taken something truly devious to get me to evict her in a tie.

Mak1

Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 05:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Looking back, I don't think our loose alliance had much, if any, effect on the voting. Since Reader's email was messed up after the first vote, we never had a chance to discuss our next votes. (another reason I thought Reader was the mole...and just faking email problems, lol)

I knew it was a risk aligning myself with Reader, a former RA, but I was enjoying her posts on both team boards and in other threads so much that I was glad to take the chance just to get to know her better.

I thought I'd be safer in the voting process, at least for a while, if I had a majority of Kellys in the house because we had already had fun times together as teammates, whereas the RAs didn't know me as well yet and would probably be more apt to keep the people they had interacted with more. Maybe naive, but I've never been known as a devious thinker.

Of course, as I got to know the former RAs better, I didn't want to vote them out, either. It's great how everyone shared so much of themselves, in and out of the house. I kept almost wishing I would get voted out each time so I wouldn't have to vote anymore, because everybody deserved to win!

Reader234

Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 09:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL, good point Adven..

Lori earned her stay, and I didnt mean to belittle that in any way!!

Jan

Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 09:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am so glad I got involved in this game.

I felt so badly when I let the cat out of the bag and got people upset at the last game..and I felt like maybe being scapegoat for this game would make up for that a bit. When Adven gave me that opportunity I was really grateful. (That's how great Adven is. We never, ever had a conversation about that. In fact, I never had a conversation with Adven before this game; and yet he was able to come up with a way to make me feel good)

My only instruction from Adven, once I was in the game, was to divert suspicion from Granny. If anyone thought I was the mole, I was successful (but I think Reader has to win this one . Most people thought she was the mole so, therefore, she wins the prize as mole accomplice!)

Reader did recruit me for an alliance..but then kept saying she couldn't reach me by email. I felt like Reader thought I was doing something to bounce those emails(I guess that's why she thought I was the mole :))I knew the email situation was not my problem since both Lance and Adven had no problems reaching me.

Because she couldn't reach me by email and to ensure she understood I was not purposely bouncing her emails, I set up a separate message box called Sandy (reader's name) and alerted her in the Starting Over thread. I thought we could talk in there because other players would not know about it. Somehow Adven found it (was it the new message thingie?/ I didn't know about that till recently).

But then Lance found it and, suspecting an alliance, and being a moderator () he added Readers name to the Sandy mailbox name. Well, that box quickly became useless.So ended our alliance. We never got to discuss one vote!

She did mention that Mak was in as well at some point (Mak..that's why I thought we had an alliance ).

I just assumed that the oldtimers like Square and Pamy and Granny had an alliance (and we all know what ASSUME does to you :))

Anyway, I just feel compelled to say that I have read, and posted, in many of the threads that talk about insider cliques and how people are ignored. I felt that this game really proved that that is not true for the most part; that if you get into discussions, everyone will talk to everyone.(That's why I felt so bad when I read Bonnyswan's post. For me, this game proved just the opposite)

I really enjoyed getting to know the people behind the names of posters I have seen on the board for years. Thanks for letting me play :)

OK I've rambled on too long..but that's what they say about me. Ask me the time and I will tell you how to build a clock

have a happy day today guys. I will miss this game.

PS If any of you are Starting Over fans (it's a real life reality show) why not join us over there. Most of those new message boxes and names that Tess talks about in her daily updates are new people who joined for that section of the board:))

Adven

Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 10:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I know you weren't implying anything about Lori, Reader. I was just pointing out that there were a number of things happening - like your alliance, for instance - that I hadn't clued into, that I think many thought I knew about.

Speaking of which, Jan. Yes, I used the "new messages" feature, but I never saw your communication with Reader in the "Sandy" folder as an alliance. I just thought you were using it to talk about the game. I posted there just for something to do, since I knew who "Sandy" was from her votes. It was only from your reaction and Reader's that I knew you thought you weren't being seen. And I think the only reason I noticed the folder was because I was following most posts from the players, both inside and outside the game, just to feel on top of things.
I haven't talked to Lance about it, but I think he outed Sandy just to tease you. Also, the board has a rule about starting fictitious folders or identities, even when done in fun, so he may have felt he needed to stick Reader's name on that folder so other members wouldn't think there was a new member named Sandy.
It was a pretty clever move on both your parts, though.

Reader234

Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 10:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
and no hard feelings...

just enjoying the game unfold!!

Grannyg

Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 11:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jan, you did an excellent job of protecting me as the mole. I loved everytime you stepped in to be the scapegoat. Adven needs you in RL. I'm sure a scapegoat would help him tremendously.

Pamy

Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 11:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I love reading everyone's game plans!!! LOL at Reader!!

Right at the beginning I emailed Square and said she and I would be the final 2, she said Bobbie had approached her about an alliance so we decided the 3 of us would be an alliance and try and get Lance also. I never got a hold of Lance, so we were just the 3 of us.

We voted together as a block until the Rose ceremony. When Reader offered me the rose I knew if I accepted it Square would be out. I knew Reader had a hard time choosing and she said she was drawing names from a hat. I said I would flip a coin to see if I would accept since I felt bad also.

I never flipped a coin! I decided I couldn't do that to Square and also for the fun of the game it would be better with Square in it. I cant post at work and might have held up the game.

I emailed Adven and said I wanted to be the mole, but i think he all ready had the mole.

My final vote was for Lori because the in chat I told her she had to post that story about the knee if she wanted my vote. That kinda backfired cuz people thought she was kidding! I had forgotten this was Adven's game and those stories are expected! lol

I had a great time and have enjoyed everyone.

ADVEN ROCKS! I think it all the time, just don't post it on the hour!

Lancecrossfire

Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 11:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd like to clear the air about why I put Reader's name after "Sandy" in her folder. I didn't think she was trying to "cover" about being two different people. I just thought that by some type of chance situation, there were two different folders for her--one under each name. I knew that was her name because I had seen her indicate it in previous posts. I didn't even check to see who started them--just wanted to not have people confused about who they were posting to should they want to post in her folder.

So, it had nothing to do with the game--only me being a moderator and wanting things to not be confusing. Had I not been so busy, I would have moved all of the posts from one of the folders into the other, and deleted the empty one--that is normal course, and I've done it a number of times before.

Lancecrossfire

Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 12:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This game has been another reminder for me how important humor is to me. I'd be in trouble without it, and life just wouldn't be the same. It's great to be with a group of folks who like to laugh.:)

Mak1

Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 12:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I love hearing the inside stories too, Pamy. Thank you for getting Lori to post that story. Things had quieted down in the game, and that story...because it came from Lori, because it was so totally unexpected, and because it was in tiny white print...had me in stitches!

Grannyg

Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 12:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wondered why Lori told that story. It was so funny and I kept thinking.......why is Lori telling this now??????????

Lancecrossfire

Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 12:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I didn't ever flip a coin for any of my votes. They were never easy votes, but I did always have some sort of reasoning for how I voted--even if it was insane reasoning at some points. lol

Pamy

Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 12:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just thought of another reason why it was only fair for Square to stay in the game instead of me. In the race game, she found all the pics for me, posted them in my folder so I could just copy them into the game, after I posted in the game she deleted them out of my folder so no one would know. I had dial up and downloading and finding pics was a nightmare, i have cable now and don't know why I waited so long! LOL

Pamy

Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 12:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Where is Lori, btw?? I haven't seen her in here yet

Grannyg

Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 01:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is Lori AWOL????????

Reader234

Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 01:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL

my first alliance person was in another alliance!!

LOL. and on my honor, I put the names in a hat, because I couldnt chose, since I had an alliance with one of them, one asked to be voted off, but changed her mind (and that shouldnt be held against her) all were equal, and yet if I hadnt gotten immunity, I know I would've been gone!! (esp with those alliances!! :)

Jan

Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 01:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ONLY 52 POSTS REQUIRED!!!!

Mak1

Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 03:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
and now, a message from our mole --

Holey Moley