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Weinermr

Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 06:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What sites are people using these days to legally download MP3's, movies, etc.? Anything but Kazaa, that one worries me. Thanks in advance.

Squaredsc

Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 06:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
well weinerkins i have no idea which ones are legal now. but the one i use is bearshare but it could be illegal, i have no idea.

Weinermr

Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 06:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Squaresy. I don't want to become a known crinimal or something. I'll check it out.

Squaredsc

Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 07:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
yw weinerkins and we definately don't want that.

Tess

Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 11:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Weiner, how bout an Unknown criminal? We'll protect you. When in doubt, remember the mantra, "It's all Glenns fault." Not only does he expect it, he'd feel darn hurt and left out if we forgot. :)

As to legal sites for downloading music, I got mine via email from someone who got them from someone else who downloaded from the net. All names are being withheld because none of them are Glenn. We could pretend it was Glenn though.

Weinermr

Monday, October 13, 2003 - 12:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Tess, for noting that I didn't being an unknown crinimal, just a known one.
I've bookmarked the website:
www.glenndidit.dragnet

Tess

Monday, October 13, 2003 - 12:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Good thinking on your part, Weiner. At least when the Feds come and sieze your computer, they have a bookmark to lead them right to the culprit. Very good thinking.

Not1worry

Monday, October 13, 2003 - 05:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Do you want free and legal? Because I don't think there are too many of those. But several places, such as www.mp3.com offer memberships.

Mak1

Monday, October 13, 2003 - 05:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Napster is back and is legal now.

Weinermr

Monday, October 13, 2003 - 05:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Free and legal would be my first choice. A very small fee and legal would be my second choice. Anything's better than buying a CD for which I only want one or two tracks. Thanks for the sugggestions.

Karuuna

Monday, October 13, 2003 - 09:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Weiner, Apple has the itunes site, for 99 cents a song. I've never used it, and don't know another darn thing about it either. But just thought I'd throw it out there 'cause I felt like posting. :)

Weinermr

Monday, October 13, 2003 - 10:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Kar. iTunes looks like a great option for Mac users, but won't work for us PC users. I'm checking out all the possibilities, and I appreciate it!

Tess

Monday, October 13, 2003 - 11:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You could upgrade to a Mac though Weiner. :)

Kar, I use iTunes all the time but didn't know about this download business.

Reader234

Monday, October 13, 2003 - 11:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Funny thing, I'm probably in the very small minority, but I loved downloading music to just listen, and then I actually went out and bought the albums!! Go figure!! Plus I needed some specialty music for my own purposes (home movies) and you cant buy the old stuff!! So I was excited about the free sharing idea.. but I see how it has gotten out of hand!!

Wouldnt you like to see where you could download the music, and pay the artists directly - that certainly would upset a few music mogels wouldnt it????

Karuuna

Monday, October 13, 2003 - 12:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tess, go to the iTunes store at apple.com :)

Weiner, can't you also download files to play on Quicktime? I believe that's cross-platform.

Hamsterlady

Monday, October 13, 2003 - 12:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
When it comes to Windows systems - Musicmatch has just started in the legal music downloading thing. And from what I've heard, they're (the mp3's) better than Real's Rhapsody music downloading system.

Supposedly, Musicmatch's mp3's are 192s instead of 128s which are better quality but larger files. It's $.99 a song and $9.99 for an album. Free to sign up. Available to U.S. residents only.

Check it out here: http://www.musicmatch.com/download/music_intro.htm?os=pc

And for comparison, here's is Real's Rhapsody link. You can try it 14 days for free it says. Note though: "Free trial covers unlimited on demand music and Internet radio. CD burning costs are not covered by the free trial." In other words, it sounds like you have to pay more if you want to burn the song to a CD instead of just to your hard drive on your computer. Available to U.S. residents only as well.

Anyways, here's the link to Rhapsody: http://www.real.com/realone/rhapsody/?opage=040103r1music_1

And BTW, Squared - Bearshare is illegal and the RIAA is monitoring that site as well. Just so ya know.

Hamsterlady

Monday, October 13, 2003 - 12:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, and here's Napster's information. The site will start October 29th and if you go here and pre-register you will get 5 free tracks from them.

http://www.napster.com/

Jed245

Monday, October 13, 2003 - 12:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It's illegal to digitally transfer music. But, if you pay for music by the month ya can listen to it. But, you don't really usually get the music. Odd eh?

If ya record it from the radio ya can't get into any trouble at all. For example if ya get XM radio and set it up to be connected to your home entertainment system. Ya can record anything ya want. Well ok not sure if that's really legal, but, you are paying ten bucks a month for the service.

And it's impossible to get caught. Not that I have XM radio set up to be recorded. But, it's possible not as easy as typing in Johnny Cash and getting a list of all his songs.

But, you can tune to a xm channel of country/classic country. I think someone even said that there are is an artist collections channel on there. Hmm?


OH Umm Real One player lets you legally pay for and download music, but, they are in a format called musicnetdownloads or something like that. And you can't burn them to a cd. And after you cancel your real one player account you lose the songs you downloaded.

(Like I said you don't really own the song). :o)

Jed.

Weinermr

Monday, October 13, 2003 - 12:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kar,

As far as I can determine, to download songs at iTunes, you need an Apple, and the Mac operating system. I do have Quicktime, but that's not sufficient for using iTunes. Some of the other services sound pretty good too though.

Vixeninvegas

Monday, October 13, 2003 - 03:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have always used limewire.com - they are terrific - I have been able to find lots of out of print old old songs & even some 1 hit wonders :)

Opps after reading Jed's post about... I know lots of people that use limewire.com - I of course don't cuz ahhhh its a bad bad thing! LOLOL

Crossfire

Monday, October 13, 2003 - 04:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but iTunes for Windows is scheduled to be rolled out on October 16th.

Crazydog

Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 09:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't anything is free and legal anymore. Kazaa, Kazaalite, Bearshare, Limewire - all illegal and will potentially get you subject to those lawsuits.

I hope iTunes for Windows will be like it is for the Mac - 99 cents a song and that's it. Some of these other new services, like Musicmatch and Rhapsody and the new, re-born Napster, are also 99 cents a song. But you also have to pay $9.99 a month. I don't purchase many CDs, and for me that'd probably be just as much as buying a new CD in the store.

They claim there is all this extra members benefit stuff like videos and magazines, but I really don't care about that. I don't have the time to play with it. If I could pay 99 cents per song without a monthly fee and burn them to a CD I would use iTunes.

Hamsterlady

Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 07:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Crazy, I don't find where Musicmatch, Rhapsody, and Napster are an automatic $9.99 a month. I've searched & searched. MM & Nap are offering albums at $9.99 per album. Rhapsody does charge more if you want to burn the mp3 instead of just listening via streaming. I'm not as familiar with Rhapsody as I am with MM & Napster.

I know some sites a few months ago WERE offering UNLIMITED downloads at $9.99/month but that's not being offered at ANY of these sites.

Besides, iTunes, is only for Macs right now. Won't do much good for those with PCs right now wanting to be legal.

Just checked iTunes' site and no mention of it for PC tomorrow BTW.

I understand we all have our favorites, but it might be best to just post the facts for those that aren't really familiar with every site instead of campaigning for one site in particular & putting down other sites.

I would, however, like a current link though showing that the sites mentioned here are $9.99 a month PLUS 99 cents per song.

Would be an interesting read. Thanks.

Crazydog

Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 08:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm not campaigning for any sites or putting down others at all. I have no interest at all in promoting any of them. I just want a site where I can pay 99 cents for a song without having to also pay a $9.99 monthly subscription fee. Someone asked for opinions about music downloading sites, and I gave an opinion. Even if I was biased, I am still only offering my opinion. Isn't that why we are all here - to share opinions?

Here is a link to an article in the current issue of BusinessWeek, where I got my information: Napster Lives Again - Sort Of

I am not sure if this link will work - you may need to be a subscriber to access. But here are the relevant quotes from the article:

"[T]he new Napster offers 99 cents-per-song downloads and a $9.95 monthly subscription service that gives customers extra features such as streaming songs to their PCs."

"The challenge will be getting the site to stand out in a crowd. Offering downloadable songs for 99 cents apiece and a monthly subscription of unlimited streaming music for about $10 is exactly what Musicmatch Inc. and RealNetworks Inc.'s Rhapsody do. And a whole host of new online music services are on the way. Apple is expected to announce a Windows version of its service later this month. By early next year, services should be available from Amazon.com, Sony, and Wal-Mart."

These are the facts upon which I based my post.

Crossfire

Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 09:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hang tight, Steve Jobs gives a presentation today 10AM Pacific Time, and iTunes for Windows is what he is expected to announce, and if he does it will fit the bill perfectly if it is a mirror of the Apple service.

That it was not mentioned on the website in advance does not surprise me at all, Apple is one of the most secretive companies on the planet when it comes to planned product rollouts.

I'll be watching closely, and will bring back the details.