Does anyone use FrontPage?
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Jules | Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 12:48 am     I am taking a web design course right now and it uses Frontpage. Is there any free sites out there to upload my website too.If so, how do I get it to that site. I am so confused. Or should I just throw frontpage in garbage and buy something else and learn it... I need some help.......Thanks in advance....... |
Eliz87 | Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 07:20 am     Jules, I use Frontpage. For my web server, I use doteasy.com. Just go to http://www.doteasy.com and once you sign up, they'll have everything you need to upload your site. You can also go to a shareware site to download your FTP server. I've never had any problem with doteasy. They will let you register your domain for $25, or less if you choose the multi-year plan. You can choose any domain that is available and for five years it costs $90. That part isn't free but the web hosting is free, which is nice. I like to use them because they don't have pop-up ads and since you'll have your own domain name, it's not hard to remember or to convey to anyone else. If you're not interested in paying for a domain, you might try Geocities. I think they still offer user domains, but there you will have to deal with your website having www.geocities.com in front of it and also they do have annoying pop-ups. I think Angelfire might offer a totally free service too with the same conditions. Hope this helps! |
Twiggyish | Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 10:33 am     FrontPage has an easy upload device (once the site is up and running) I don't use the web bot components, nor the FP extensions. I've used the program for about 7 years and know pretty much all the little glitches. I only use the WYSIWYG part of the program which allows me to change HTML, etc.. To answer your question, Eliz has excellent advice. You should buy your own domain. This allows you the flexibility to experiment with the program. If you are going to use any of the shared borders, slide show or form handling, you'll need a server which is set up for FP extensions. An NT Server will accomodate you better with FP. My servers are Unix and there are limitations. (ASP for example..even with Chillisoft) |
Jules | Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 01:31 pm     thank you both, now I understand alittle more. For now until I get the hang of things, I am going to try Geocites. Thanks again...... |
Twiggyish | Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 05:04 pm     Geocities won't allow all the FrontPage functions. You can use it, but be careful with what you use. I've used FrontPage with Geocities, but it does cause headaches with some things. If you use the Geocities upload feature..watch that you upload the vti- folders from FrontPage..EVERYTHING has to be uploaded, including pictures. The Geocities file structure has to be identical to your file structure on your computer for the site. I haven't been through this whole site, but it does appear to have good information: http://www.outfront.net/frontpagetechniques.htm |
Jules | Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 06:31 pm     thanks again Twiggyish!!!Im headed to that site now...... |
Zachsmom | Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 07:26 pm     What exactly are you trying to accomplish Jules? Are you just creating a personal web page or are you looking more into developing an interactive website? I can tell you one thing, FrontPage is a pain in the rear and will cause you many unneccesary headaches. I 'may' be able to give you some advice but I am unsure of what you are trying to accomplish. What operating system are you running on that you develop with now? Do you have IIS installed? If you have IIS installed I would suggest using plain old HTML. If you are planning on collecting information into a database, I would highly discourage using frontpage and go with HTML, JavaScript & depending on what OS your server is running on (Linux I'd use PHP, Windows ASP) I hope I didn't confuse you..lol! I'd really like to help, but I don't know exactly what you are trying to accomplish! |
Jules | Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 07:39 pm     Zachsmom, right now Im just trying to create a personal web page. Whenever,or IF I ever get the hang of it, it might move to something else. I know a little HTML..... Um, I feel stupid here but -what is "IIS"? I am using Win Me, and the only thing on here is Frontpage..... The course I am doing started with Frontpage and about mid way through switched to Dreamweaver, so it confused me.I havent even opened the Dreamweaver stuff. I wanted to learn Frontpage first. |
Zachsmom | Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 08:41 pm     I think Windows ME automatically installs IIS (Internet Information Services) basically, when you want to view the webpage that you are creating on your localhost (your computer) it creates a virtual directory and allows you to view your webpage "off the internet" (in your webbrowser). To find out if you have it installed go to your control panel, administrative tools and see if you have Internet Service Manager in the tree-view. If you are serious about webdesign, I'd forget FrontPage and go with Dreamweaver!!! FrontPage is a pain and will not teach you good programming habits. Anytime you want to upload your webpage to a webserver you'll have to deal with frontpage extentions and sometimes all of your hard work will be null and void. Do you have Dreamweaver installed? It has a better developement environment than frontpage and you can do a lot of neat stuff with it!!! You'll also learn better programming skills. |
Jules | Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 10:24 pm     I have Dreamweaver right here. I just have to learn to do it......Thanks for your help Zachsmom!!! Now, off I go to learn Dreamweaver....Wish me luck....Thanks again...... |
Zachsmom | Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 10:52 pm     Here is a website that has some tutorials It's the macromedia website tutorials section.)If you have any questions, feel free to ask (either here or in my members forlder) |
Zachsmom | Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 10:55 pm     Here's another. I'd suggest starting with this site before the other one. This is for beginners. Just print out the pages to have them handy! |
Jules | Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 11:03 pm     Thank you so much Zachsmom, this will help me out so much!!!!! I just downloaded Dreamweaver, and it looks confusing but I am going to figure it out!!! One step at a time......thanks again!! |
Zachsmom | Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 11:32 pm     Jules, I can't tell you how excited I am that you are venturing forth into the world of programming! Really, I am exceted for you! I wanted to give you some hints, tips and advice while you are getting started. Take them or leave them, but I've been where you are at 1) Have fun! Really..it's a lot of fun and very fullfilling on a personal level when you create something..and it works! lol 2) Look for forums that will cater to newbies. I can help you out in this dept. if you like. (TVCH is great, but we don't have a whole lot of programmers on this site who wish to discuss coding..I am always available to you so if you have questions ask!) 3) You WILL get frustrated. LOL! The best thing to do when you are frustated is walk away..either for the day or for a few hours. I notice when I am extrememly tired that I get frustated, yet when I walk away and come back with a clear head and a fresh pair of eyes, I see the mistakes I have been making. 4) Programming is all logic. That's why it's best to walk away when you are frustrated and tired. Your logical mind doesn't work well when you are tired. The best of the best programmers get frustrated so don't think it's something about 'you' when you aren't able to grasp a concept. 5) Again--HAVE FUN!!!! I cannot wait to see your first project!!!!!! |
Jules | Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 06:08 pm     Zachsmom, I am so happy that you have taken time to help me out and I will take all you say and use it. I have gotten frustrated these past few days and today I just stayed away from it so like you said tonight when I get back to work on it, maybe I will understand it better. It makes me feel better that there are people like you out there to help someone like me and that makes understanding all this alot easier , knowing that I can come to you and ask you something if I don't understand. And when I finally complete that first project, you will be the first one to see it ok. Thanks again...... |
Twiggyish | Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 07:09 pm     Hand coding HTML is great if you only have one site or two to work with..but if you have many or are under a deadline a Wysiwyg may be the answer. I LOVE Dreamweaver, but it's not as user friendly as FrontPage. BUT, FP as Zach'smom pointed out is a royal pain in the *****. A web page can be viewed offline..just browse to it with an open browser on your computer. I have used Notepad to code, saved the doc as an HTML web page and then opened it in a browser. As I worked, I just hit refresh to view the new page. |
Jules | Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 07:17 pm     I have to say I know a little html, but, I probably need something like WYSIWYG to start off with, just until I can figure out how to do some things.... Right now, Im just doing a personal webpage, trying to get the hang of everything. One day hopefully I can start doing other peoples webpages lol. |
Twiggyish | Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 07:31 pm     Geocities is great for beginners. You'll learn about file management if anything there. Good luck! It can be a lot of fun. (depending on the site) |
Jules | Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 07:42 pm     Thanks Twiggyish!!! I hope it will be fun!!!! |
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