Archive through February 12, 2003
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Archive through February 12, 2003
Hermione69 | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 10:29 am     I think Mosessupposes made a good point. If anyone besides a close friend or a family member made comments to me similar to those in the breast thread, I would have gotten away from that person as fast and far as I could. Adven, I didn't get the feeling that any of us who raised the breast cancer issue were doing it in any way but to explain OUR feelings. I certainly didn't bring it up to imply that you were wrong or insensitive not to consider it. Different things trigger different emotions for different people. It's fine for you guys who don't mind the bantering! Really it is! We all find different things funny. I didn't like it so I did not participate. It is still feeling to me like those of us who didn't like it are being considered humorless or "fuddy-duddies" to use Adven's words, but I am sure that is just excessive defensiveness on my part, LOL. I am a liberal thinker with a pierced tongue and a very wild streak (in other words, so NOT a fuddy-duddy) and I just didn't find the darn thread funny. Period. The End. For me, at least, because this thread is starting to get a battleground feel and it is soooooooooo not worth that. |
Car54 | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 11:32 am     One more thing, and I am going back to the real thread. I would like to thank several posters like Hermione and Karunna for being very articulate about their feelings without any corresponding slams at anyone. I feel very clear on your opinions. There are MANY threads on this board where people post things I am not interested in once I read them or that make me uncomfortable. I try not to go into the thread and post that I find it silly or immature or insensitive. I close the window and move on. I think it is the duty of the moderators to manage that issue. I know for a fact that there were at least 6 moderators on the board yesterday who were available to respond. If I was offended, I might post my feelings - ONCE and then move on. I would not keep posting over and over about it...there is really no need...say what you think...that is all that is really necessary and you are entitled to do that. Most of the time, you are not going to change anyone elses behavior or opinion. If I felt stronger than that, I would follow board guidelines and contact a mod and ask for their attention. Again....just scroll down... makes life a lot easier. |
Car54 | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 11:34 am     Hiya Egbok....damn I have missed you...I am so glad you are back! |
Karuuna | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 11:41 am     Thank you Car, and you're welcome. Adven - I'd like to ask you, how does one decide if something is "mean-spirited"? Isn't that a very relative assessment? Any teasing is always subject to interpretation. Some teasing is meant to hurt people. Some teasing, particularly between people who are quite convinced of the other's affection, is simply an effort to say "I love you with all your idiosyncracies". Unless you know someone really well, how can you reliably tell the difference? That's the trap with a message board like this - some folks you know really well, some you don't, and some you think you know really well but you really don't. (I'm giving myself a headache now). I don't think it's okay to make something funny that causes a lot of injury in real life. For example, men fondling the breasts of women without permission does happen, and it's very injurious. Somehow I don't see the humor in it. More importantly, I think joking about it is a kind of tacit approval, as if it minimizes the damage and makes the behavior okay somehow. You wouldn't joke about rape, would you? Even if you were just kidding, and not really planning it? So why joke about what would be called molestation if it were real and not imagined? Signed, The ever so Fuddy Duddier Karuuna |
Maris | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 11:52 am     I found the thread inappropriate and it did offend me. I was surprised by the reaction of some people when I first posted and that prompted my response about what I perceived to be double standards. I posted the Friedan quote as somethig for women to think about because I thought it accurately reflected my view on the thread. That is how I saw it. If I met a man face to face who made a joke like that I would not think very well of him and I would avoid him. It is all a matter of respect and I didnt see the respect for women in the thread. I am posting this not because I want to "shut a thread down" and I find it interesting that someone would suggest that because I find something objectionable I am somehow trying to shut a thread down. I watch the Osbourne show on tv but I find the thread here with all the f'ing in it offensive. I dont post and I didnt open it after the first time I read it. I had opened the breast thread originally because I thought it was a serious subject. If the purpose of the General Discussion thread is only to agree with what is said in it then what is the point. There is no discussion. Anyway, that is all I have to say. |
Squaredsc | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 12:02 pm     this will probably get moderated but i had to speak. mosessupposes said, "I read that thread and why anyone would find it "hilarious" was beyond me. Then again, grown adults who find 3rd grade humor (farting and belching) funny is also beyond me. I wonder if the posters who responded to the topic like giggling school girls would respond in real life in the exact same manner." now that statement really ticks me off. email me if you want to know why. |
Pamy | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 12:03 pm     I found it funny and I think Adven was thoughtful for creating this thread for serious discussion on the issue. I thought this thread was for people to discuss those issues not debate about the other thread. That thread made me laugh and also reminded me that I am supposed to schedule a mamagram(the 1st one), so for me it was funny and helpful. The stories I have heard about mamagrams make me think I better go in there with a little humor or I will be scared to death. I |
Car54 | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 12:26 pm     Karuuna, I already have a headache so I didn't have any problem following your post. I have had a recent experience with the teasing issue and it was totally unintentional...and taught me a lesson on that. I try not to make the same mistakes over again if I can. Maris, I for one did not think you were trying to shut anything down. I thought you expressed your opinion and I felt like I understood what you were saying. I do not think anyone has to only post agreement...that is what discussion is. Square...I know why you are ticked off...don't need to mail ME! |
Squaredsc | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 12:31 pm     lol car, i needed that. im trying to figure out how to work aubergine into this discussion but can't think of one. |
Ginger1218 | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 12:33 pm     you already did Square lol |
Car54 | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 12:34 pm     Square... I could post about my boob rash...it is kind of aubergine in color. Would that help? |
Kaili | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 12:42 pm     Hey...back to the research thread with you two!!!  |
Squaredsc | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 01:00 pm     gigner, you're right i did, lol. kaili's right car, we're in the wrong thread. sorry guys. come on car. <dragging car back to the other breast thread.> |
Car54 | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 01:16 pm     Ok Kaili, but I DO have a legitimate aubergine boob rash...3 doctors say it is stress... no kidding. Going back over to the boob thread to scratch my itch. ...See...you thought I was teasing...but I wasn't. |
Kaili | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 01:22 pm     Oh boy...see there is something I just didn't need to know. But good luck with that...I hope you can relieve some stress.. This board may be, at times, a source of that stress.  |
Kaili | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 01:28 pm     Sheesh..that came out wrong. I don't want you to go away or anything. I just meant, you know, all the bickering that can happen here. |
Squaredsc | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 01:28 pm     sorry, i meant ginger, too late to edit it. |
Car54 | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 01:36 pm     Oh Kaili.... it is ok... and this board is NEVER a source of stress for me...Just Scroll down... remember? This is a message board about TV shows. There are a lot of fun, smart people here. I don't come here to argue, or debate..or any of those things...got enough of that in my life! The people here are people I can choose to interact with ....or not...I have total control over that and over whether or not they bother me. We don't always have that kind of control in real life. I think sometimes some people here get the two mixed up. I really really don't. I might get really engaged in a discussion...but if I find it is bothering me...I stop...I turn off the computer and do something else... my choice. I am done now...really...I promise... |
Twiggyish | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 01:47 pm     Well this "giggling school girl" is not ashamed about finding the thread humorous. I think there are far more serious issues in this world to be righteously concerned about. |
Fluff | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 02:12 pm     Uh-huh! To be honest, I haven't seen this much bitterness in the political thread!  |
Karuuna | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 02:21 pm     I'd like to go on notice that I am not bitter. In fact, I'm normally semi-sweet. Seriously, I only posted here because Adven asked why some of us were offended. Yes, I found that thread offensive, and because of that I chose to stay away. It wasn't such a big deal to me that I felt I had to make a stand (tho I also applaud those who chose to state their discomfort). I think people ought to feel free to post their disagreement here without being lectured for doing so. We are only responding to the question that was asked when this thread was started.  |
Fluff | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 02:26 pm     Uh-huh! To be honest, I haven't seen this much bitterness in the political thread! I agree with everybody |
Ginger1218 | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 02:47 pm     Boy Fluff, you are easy LOL |
Mosessupposes | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 03:20 pm     Squaredsc, I have to e-mail you to find out why the term "giggling school girls" ticked you off??? Yet, these two offensive threads didn't in the least phase your sensibilities. I almost e-mailed you...really...I almost did. Maybe these 2 threads should be moved to "Hot Topics". I can hear the footsteps of the Moderators as they close in for the kill on this post. |
Squaredsc | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 04:15 pm     email me please. i don't bite. yet, lol. |
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