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Whit4you

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 09:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cross ya but I figure if whoever it is ..who's on my computer wanted folks to know they'd post here.. I respect peeps privacy... ya know.....:)\


Cross do me a favor and save a 'how-to' of the instructions you give Zacks on the Linux FTP setup ok? Would be handy to have.

Zachsmom

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 09:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just downloaded and installed RedHat 8.0 (was using 7.3) I've got a fresh clean machine..I am switching back and forth getting my system configured..lol..

Whit4you

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 09:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well I hope we have at leat one more 'taker' - on this FTP thing... would lke to know if Zacks 5 min from the time I posted the how to .. to her being on and downloading... was a fluke or if I did a damn good job on my instructions and need to pat self on back...LOL.

I've only taught someone who didn't know what "FTP" means this once before and it took about 30 minutes (cause of a glitch...the Flash program I sent them was demanding an 'update' which started us out on wrong foot..but once that was all figured out... it took him about 10 minutes to be on my ftp and downloading)

Crossfire

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 09:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whit: Once they enter your computer, you have all the right in the world to know who they are. I'll tell ya what, IF it is me, you have permission to look. :)

I'll try to make a point of keeping the instructions that I provide for zachsmom.

Zachsmom: Oh, excellent, so you are already to go then. I've got a Redhat 8, installed into a vmware session. (vmware is a very superb program you might be interested in if you are messing around with multiple operating systems).

Anyway back on track do you remember which type of install you did? (ie server, workstation, custom)?

Once we get started, we should take this somewhere out of Whits classroom I think. The chatroom might be a good place for interactive instruction. Is tomorrow evening good for you?

Whit4you

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 09:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lori - ok I gotta reason for ya... hehe...

why not? (that's the reason)

the flash program is tiny 2 meg I think... it might only take 5 or 10 minutes

and then ... you will konw what FTP is... and how to use it and can say you learned something that scared a total computer geek like ME ....LOL.

Lets say yer granny has never been on or seen the net... and maybe she'll never has a reason to .. but if she's got 10 minutes ... why not - at least take a peek... then she'll always be able to say... she's been on da net! LOL.

I mean like 70% at least of the people I know online don't know HOW to FTP... would be cool to know how... perhaps? Then one day when you see something on the net that requires you to FTP to get to it ... you'll remember it wasn't that hard to do.. or perhaps even remember how it was done that time that silly Whit from TVCH talked you into tryin it... LOL.

Ok and another reason.. I'm dying to find out if Zacks 5 minutes.. was a fluke ... or not.. :)

Whit4you

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 09:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cross - of course.. but this is an 'anon' access (ie anyone who sees this post can use that info as long as I keep that login/password valid (and don't change my port)

*I* would have no prob figuring out who it is .. my point.. and the only reason I mention it is cause I don't want anyone to think *I* plan to share here what they may or may not decide to download (known as "leeching" for those not 'in the know') from my system.

YOU know what I mean.. I'm only POSTING this for those who don't... LOL.

Whoever the 'lurker' is.. they didn't choose to post to this thread... "Hey I'm ON!" or "Thanks for the FTP info" or whatever.. so unless or until they do .. they don't get to count (fer Lance LOL)

Zacks - do try to find and grab one of those 'userobjects' files you will die when you see how many objects they each contain LOL

Zachsmom

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 09:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tomorrow would be great..

I did a custom install and installed EVERYTHING!!! (yes..4GB!)

I live in SoCal so I am Pacific time..anytime after 7 (when son goes to bed) would be perfect!

Draheid

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 09:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whit: I cheated! lol :)

Crossfire

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 09:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ah Hah, so it was Draheid. :)

Zachsmom: Ok, so that would be...10 I think here. That works for me. By the way, did the install go well? Does it fire up the GUI, and browse the internet properly?

Zachsmom

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 09:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
yes..it works great!!

I love linux..I am very new to it..but it reminds me of the old DOS days..but better..lol..

I can get around pretty well and I think I got a handle on the file structure..the commands are very new but I can tar,create and remove files..and I have made changes in my ./bash_profile (when I was on 7.3)

edit..I am on Linux now..lol..so I guess it does work fine..:)

Whit4you

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 09:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dra - I'll have to scroll back to my 'proposition' - but I don't think you'll count anyhow I think it was for 10 peeps to learn to FTP (Or something like that? LOL :) Or hoping anyhow!!!!!

Crossfire

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 09:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Excellent, how about vi, are you good in that if we need to modify some config files?


BTW Zachsmom==


Crossfire

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 09:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whit...you are shall we say...musically confused.

I thought I was the only one like that. Hehehe.

Zachsmom

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 09:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes..I did the 30 minute tutorial..and I am okay with that..(I have to remember to press ESC after INSERT mode)

Vim is where I changed my ./bash_profile

Zachsmom

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 09:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hey..are you saying I am a geek?

if you are..then THANK YOU!!!

sorry Whit for taking over your thread..we'll be out soon..lol

zachsmom does a happy dance because she found a new linux buddy

Whit4you

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 10:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Zacks lol.. well that's why I keep saying .. "was Zacks a fluke' - cause while YOU may have been 'on and downloading' in 5 minutes based on those quickly written instructions... I dunno if 'yer average 'what's an FTP???" person' would be... hopnig someone else comes out of the woodwork to see ... :)

Ya'all are not talking 'over my head' but I am sitting here thinking that nobody but a fellow computer geek will come NEAR this thread now... after all we've said here LOL.

If I can just find another person or two to test my instructions then I'll figure out another way to get others to try FTP lol... so carry on with the computer techie talk here guys... we've already lost everyone who's not a diehard computer geek type I think.....

I know back when I feared this "FTP" concept that this thread woulda just made me run faster.. ack it's all to complicated... even for ME then..LOL.

I still laugh over this ... I mean I was so deep into computers that I could boggle the mind of most other 'computer' peeps at that time.. and yet I tuned out to this "FTP" thingy.. just seemed like a forgein language to me... wanna know what finally pushed me over the edge to learn it? (took all of 10 minutes to learn it when I finally decided to bite the bullet and learn this scary new relm) I'd bought a copy of Filemaker Pro while working for Disney Corp... when I left my stalker/physco control freak... I left with nothing but the cloths on my back basically... the guy figured he could control me and my life because he had all my belongings... he was wrong. I decided I had a 'housefire' - and lost everything I owned... end of story and end of his control. LOL. BUT - I also had NO money at the time and didn't REALLY want to spend 400 bucks for another copy of the program I'd already bought... soooooo I bit the bullet and dropped in on the warez community... took me 10 minutes to learn to FTP... took me 1 year to end up with a copy of Filemaker Pro (not exactly a 'must have' in the warez community" lol)

Crossfire

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 10:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hehehe, and here I thought I slipped that one by you. All I can say, is that running Unix is definitely a key indicator.

Draheid

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 10:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whit: what about a clickable link into your server! :O

Whit4you

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 10:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh Dra ain't you cute..>:)

Refresh the link..>:)

Draheid

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 10:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If you don't want it, I'll ask for it to be removed ... just say the word! :)

Crossfire

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 10:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So sorry for swiping your thread whit, it was not intentional. I should have left when I said I would.


EVERYONE ELSE: Read back through some of this, ignore everyone but Whit, and the worse that will happen is that you will get some free music, maybe a book or two, and if the sociopaths that are the Sims float your boat, you get some goodies for that too, not to mention some useful knowledge. Seriously, you have nothing to lose, and Whit desperately want to know if her instructions are any good. Not to mention poor Lance.

Whit4you

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 10:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL naa you know I can just change the port or what-have you... lol. I just thought that was dirty pool.. as in

Dra whispers:

"Pssst guys you don't need to do all this flashfxp mumbo jumbo just click here.."


LOL (too cute)

But I am sure you know that flash offers alot that that link doesn't however... I think it's all mute now... I know we've scared off anyone but the diehards.....LOL!

Cross - don't worry my cheeks hurt from smiling and laughing .. which is good been down lately.. LOL....

I'll get to the 'non geeks' - later... enjoying this stuff :)

Draheid

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 10:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Mods: Please eradicate anything between Whit & me from 10:17PM to 10:24PM. Thanks! And ignore anything else Whit says to me please! :P

Whit4you

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 10:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Mods: Don't you DARE!!! LOL

(Mods Dra is CHEATING!!!! Adding things to his previous posts!!!!!)

I have the advantage though I can add anything *I* want ot that link HE posted.. <EFG>

LOL

Whit4you

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 10:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cross - you still around? I hope you were kidding when you said you shoulda left when you said you would??? I'm having a blast in this thread... life goes on if we scared off the newbies.. I can reach em later... you know? THIS has been a blast...LOL.