Archive through March 24, 2003
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Archive through March 24, 2003
Maris | Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 09:45 pm     I think it is outrageous that Hollywood gave Roman Polanski an oscar. That is like giving O.J. Simpson an Oscar. The man is a convicted rapist, who was convicted of drugging and sodomizing a 13 year old girl. I am offended by it. I dont care how great his movie was at some point one should be accountable for ones actions. We should all remember why he wasn't there, because he would have to serve the sentence that was passed down in absentia. I cannot believe Hollywood who likes to put themselves out there as moral and sensitive and they all went out there and gave this guy an oscar. My rant is over. |
Melfie1222 | Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 10:03 pm     I wouldn't disagree with that... what do you think about the news releases that say something like the woman who was that girl said she thought Polanski should be allowed to come to the USA to receive his award, if he won? |
Maris | Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 10:08 pm     I think it doesnt change the fact that he was convicted of the crime of rape regardless of what his victim says. If he shows up in this country he should be thrown in jail to complete his sentence. Should the kidnapper of Elizabeth Smart get off if he writes a pulitzer prize winning book? The fact is he drugged this child and raped her and sodomized her. He said after the fact he didnt know she was 13. What does that have to do with the fact that he drugged her with ecstacy and raped her? He should never have received the award. |
Wendo | Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 10:12 pm     Maris, I'm completely with you on this one, re: Roman Polanski. My mom and I were on the phone for the last half hour (Oscar tradition) and we're shocked and outraged as well. Depite some of the clapping he did receive, I did note several women, and some men, refusing to stand or clap. The guy has been hiding in plain sight in France for crimes he should've served time for. Not only that, he's been able to continue his career while thumbing his nose at justice. Perhaps I should just ditto your words. You've expressed exactly how I feel. |
Melfie1222 | Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 10:14 pm     And I am with both of you on this one. |
Tishala | Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 10:30 pm     That was a great show, for once! It's time for a post mortem, whether you want it or not, so here are my Oscar winners and losers. I'm sure I'm missing lots here--and these are purely subjective. Winners: Adrian Brody, who was as excellent in The Pianist as he was gracious in his speech. Pedro Almodovar, whose excellent script was as clear in English translation as it was in Spanish. Steve Martin, who hosted with elan. He made you forget what a fiasco David Letterman was those many years ago. Nicole Kidman, who combines fashion sense, beauty, humor, and nice speeches. Scorsese, for giving Polanski a standing ovation for an award he wanted so much. Streisand and Sarandon, who, unlike Michael Moore, expresed their political sentiments adroitly. The Kodak Theater, which is much better than the Dorothy Chandler Pavillion ever was. Losers: Catherine Zeta Jones, who has to return home with yucky Michael Douglas. I don't think an Oscar would provide enough solace. Tom Cruise, who has been nominated many times and never won--unlike his ex-wife. Michael Moore, who, while I might agree with him, said his say too clumsily. Those who booed Michael Moore's clumsy speech. It's more graceful to allow the graceless to prove their lack of grace. Julianne Moore, who is the finest actress in the business and probably deserved two Oscars tonight. |
Ginger1218 | Monday, March 24, 2003 - 06:35 am     I agree with you all about Roman Polanski. The man is a fugitive, not even allowed in this country. He was guilty of raping a 13 year old child. I think it is disgraceful. |
Rissa | Monday, March 24, 2003 - 06:51 am     Maris, I so agree with you!!! Just because a period of time has passed does not diminish his guilt. Shame on anyone who would work with the man, and on those who applauded and cheered his winning. I certainly won't be shelling out money to see the film to have a portion of it end up in his pocket. <rant over> Michael Moore who I usually love even when not agreeing with his opinions was just spitefull and small. I was embarassed for him and since he ended up being the only one to pull a stunt, I am sure he will feel the repercussions. I love Julian Moore as well although I haven't yet seen either of her movies that were nominated. Was hoping Rene would win best actress though, from all I have seen... her Chicago role required the most effort/stretching, etc. I didn't understand Kidman's speech at all. The parts that actually made sense sounded like it was written by a ten year old. DH and I were just laughing at how 'deep' she apparently thought she was with all those weird facial expressions. I loved Brody's speech, although he shouldn't have wasted the first half pretending he had nothing to say and then yelling at the music. LOLOL I must have missed Streisand, didn't even see her much less hear her speak. I did make a beeline for a fast shower about 3/4's in though. LOL This is the first time I have ever watched the Oscars, I usually just flip occasionally or just check news updates. I LOVED when that first guy went over his time and the music started, he kept talking and then the microphone receded into the stage. RFLOL!!! Did NOT appreciate how obvious the industry made it known who they do not consider valuable. The celebs got twice the microphone time as the other winners. Do ya think when 3 guys win that they could each have a few seconds to thank their G.D. wives??? LOL I was also yelling at the TV during the film of all the folks who had passed this year. The actors got so much more applause. Clap the same for everyone or wait quietly until the end and then do a standing ovation for the whole group!!! IMHO |
Lizadee | Monday, March 24, 2003 - 06:58 am     Can someone tell me where in this thread I can start to see you all talking about Michael Moores speech he was giving I myself chg'd the t.v. to watch the MN Wild win there way into the Playoffs for the 1st time I am from MN and now I need to find out how I can get my tickets for the playoffs |
Rissa | Monday, March 24, 2003 - 07:03 am     Liz, I was just reading it on CNN.com: "I've invited my fellow documentary nominees on stage with us here in solidarity with me," he said, "because we like non-fiction and we live in fictitious times. We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elect a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man who's sending us to war for fictitious reasons, whether it's the fiction of duct tape or the fiction of orange alerts. ... We have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons. We are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush, shame on you." |
Lizadee | Monday, March 24, 2003 - 07:09 am     Thanks Rissa, I also would like to read what my fellow TVCH friends here where saying about his speech |
Spygirl | Monday, March 24, 2003 - 07:31 am     That isn't all of his speech. He made reference to the Dixie Chicks and the Pope at the end. |
Fluffybbw | Monday, March 24, 2003 - 07:36 am     Lizadee start with the end of archive for March 23rd, 7:29 p.m. |
Cassie | Monday, March 24, 2003 - 07:36 am     Hey Spy, thanks for the folder. I'll go and check it now |
Texannie | Monday, March 24, 2003 - 07:38 am     Spygirl, he did? I didn't hear that part. |
Faerygdds | Monday, March 24, 2003 - 07:40 am     Yeah... thankfully they were dragging him off the stge and drowning him with music.. it was hard to hear. His display didn't shock me at all... it's just who he is. Not to say I didn't get a lot uncomfortable at the display though. |
Rissa | Monday, March 24, 2003 - 07:45 am     Really Spy? I didn't hear that part... maybe the booing buried it. LOLOL Will have to check for a more complete transcript somewhere. |
Lizadee | Monday, March 24, 2003 - 07:47 am     Thanks Fluffybbw (by the way what does that stand for) Not much said in the threads about his speech But thanks anyways Rissa I am with you on Kidmans speech (act like she was crying) OH BOO HOO !! |
Rissa | Monday, March 24, 2003 - 08:12 am     Ahhhh, I have The View on and they just showed Moore. What I missed was: "Anytime you have the Pope and the Dixie Chicks against you... your time is up." LOL |
Fluffybbw | Monday, March 24, 2003 - 08:37 am     Lizadee, Fluffy is because I'm fluffy not fat, and BBW is Big Beautiful Woman! |
Bastable | Monday, March 24, 2003 - 09:25 am     Julianne Moore was ROBBED! |
Ophiliasgrandma | Monday, March 24, 2003 - 09:41 am     My daughter just gifted me with the soundtrack CD of Chicago. Now I can relive the fun of the whole thing whenever I want. I've seen C twice and will see it once more before it departs the big screen. I just love being entertained! |
Hummingbird | Monday, March 24, 2003 - 10:14 am     Boooooo, Michael Mann! They should have cut his mike when he veered into criticism of our president. Good for those in the audience who were booing <him>. |
Weenerlobo | Monday, March 24, 2003 - 10:39 am     I kind figured that Nicole Kidman would win. I mean, she made the ultimate sacrifice by transforming herself into a less attractive woman and one with brains, for that matter! How else was she ever gonna prove that she is a "serious" actress? (Meaning this in a light and joking tone) Actually, I don't like Nicole Kidman, but she did a great job (eerily good) in that movie where her character had her teenage buddies kill her husband (Matt Dillon). For the life of me I can't remember the name of that movie. Aha - To Die For - just found it on IMDB!. Tishala - I totally agree re: Michael Douglas. Bleck |
Bandit | Monday, March 24, 2003 - 12:48 pm     I'm with you, Hummingbird! I'm glad that they booed. |
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