The secret world of FTP (don't know how then READ this dang it!)
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Zachsmom

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 10:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Whit!!! Sorry to hijack you thread..but it has been fun!!!

AND You're instructions are VERY good and this program is VERY easy to use!!!!!

Go for it guys n gals!!!!!

Crossfire..I set up a folder for you in the members area

Crossfire

Crossfire

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 10:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am still here, I have to go in about 10 minutes though...trying to show some restraint.

Waiting to see who has more pull with the mods. :)

Whit4you

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 10:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok Cross whew.. lol... I thought fer a minute you were not seeing how much I was laughing here.. and I really cared that we got a bit 'off topic' (or would that be ON topic LOL) in this thread... :) I've had more fun tonight then I've had in a while... not regretting one bit that anyone not already into FTP might take a look at this 100+ post thread and say ... eeek... run... lol

BTW - I think da mods are gonna stay outta this one LOL... since you 'had to be here' to even have a clue whats going on LOL (refresh that link NOW LOL)


For those not 'in the know' (or reading this later.....)

Dra's lil link to my FTP - took you to my hard drive - in oh.. one simple step instead of my ohhhh.. 10 (or whatever it was) or so steps I was suggesting via FlashFXP.

my RESPONSE was to make the top dir on my FTP say

"Whit kicks Draheid's Butt news at 11:00"

(I've since modified the title to that thread....)


Car54

Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 12:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Whit, I have a dumb question. Work a lot on my laptop at home, and at the office we have a Window NT network connecting and a Unix server that runs our main software.

I want to be able to connect to the NT server and pull files over to my laptop at home to work on. Our support people are saying until we get a T1 line to our server, I can't do this.
We have had some problems getting the T1 line installed...they are just cabling the town we are in and there is a wait list for businesses.
I have tons of phone lines and modems available tho.

If we had a dial in connection would I be able to FTP my files over? I don't care how long it takes to get them...

Ruditoo

Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 02:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Whit, are you still here? I've just logged on an finished reading this thread. This sounds abit baffling to me (it's 4:20 a.m. my time by the way)and our pc downloads rather slow, windows 98,dail-up,I'd like the Major to take a look before I leap LOL the earliest that could happen is around 7:oo p.m. tonight. I've also never been able to figure out how to get into the chat room.Thought I'd mention that before you ask and to give you an idea how un I am. I'm lol but it's not that funny to me. I have some memory problems and other neuro things so M may like to take you up on your offer if it's still good when he's able to see this. I'm abit of a curious cat myself and I've messed-up the pc more than once so... By the way it's good to see you having abit of fun.{{}}'s

Zachsmom

Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 03:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
bump for Whit..try it guys n gals it's easy!! If anything you'll be helping Whit out..:)

Bryan

Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 05:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am willing to learn this but I want to receive the same incentive that Lance is going to get. Whit?

Twiggyish

Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 05:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've been ftping for years and I can say it's very easy =) I use cuteftp. It works without problems and it's user friendly.

http://www.cuteftp.com

Zachsmom

Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 05:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Come on Whit..you need to leave them an easter egg!!!

Whit4you

Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 06:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bryan!!!! LOL - :) Well let me say this the pics Lance has ALREADY gotten of me... are on my FTP a bit hidden I guess... still trying to figure out why the person who hoped on last night and went right TO that particular folder did so.. strange lol.


Bryan if you DON'T know how to FTP and you learn via my steps I'll make the find a little easier for you.. <grin>


Zacks lemme see I need an incentive for gals... wondering where my fireman's calendar pics are LOL.... fer me though if one of the other gals here was making this lil suggestion *I* would want to get on just to see what pic the guys are getting lol - just the curious type.

I'll have to think of a good plan to entice those who don't FTP to give it a try ... I know I can think of one!! :)

Twiggyish

Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 06:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whit, your Sims accessories are great. I spent a whole day downloading them last time..LOL

Whit4you

Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 06:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Twig - you definately should get some of the 'userobjects' files - at least one or two of them... each contains hundreds and hundreds of objects in one file (this makes the time to start the program alot faster. (You can use FarEdit to do the same wiht your own objects)

They are huge so if your a slow connection you might just want to grab one.. each is you know 100+ meg... lol

Bryan

Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 07:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay Whit, I am in. Want to tell me where to look?

Whit4you

Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 07:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
send me an AOL IM Bryan (Whit4YouAFK)

FYI WTG - was it hard or did my steps work ok?

Bryan

Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 07:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It was a piece of cake

Whit4you

Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 07:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok two down ... 8 to go WOOHOO :)

FYI folks if you like Themes I have a few thousand themes in the wallpapers - themes dir LOL :) I had to zip them up though otherwise the dir would have thousands of files.... so it's uh pot luck just dl one of the huge files... (80 meg or so) and see wahts in it...:)

Bryan

Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 07:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whit, I never bothered to look at your wallpaper but I did find your picture files. Let me just say that I really liked the face closeup best. Don't get me wrong, the cleavage shots were hard to overlook.

Ruditoo

Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 09:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whit,we've started. I must confess we used the short cut first M wanted to see what was there and I was just curious to see what you had done after you know who put that link up,(by the way your a real sport) not that I could make heads or tails out of some of it,but M was familar with Sims HomeCrafter and downloaded it the old fashion way. Then we went and took a look at the FTP site and downloaded that. If I decide to go it alone it will be thurs. if I wait for M since he works 7 til 11 fri. and has commitments(poss.) thurs.eve. and works till after 11 p.m. sat. and til 7 or 8p.m. sun. Sun.is the first best bet for help from him. Now this is probably alot more than you are interested in knowing but, I wanted you 1.to know we'd at been in your files 2.we're going for it. I have a question, are you connected to that site in anyway ? I think this maybe very good for me, I've already started injoying the experience! Youv'e got the ole endorphins going and that's a good thing! See, I don't even know how to do para's.

Whit4you

Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 09:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Rud - great - looking forward to you getting set up on thurs :) Not sure what you mean by 'are you connected to that site in any way' - the link he posted... the site you were on is MY hard drive... (the FTP addy with 9-11 / rest-in-peace) that's my hard drive.. (Well it's my D drive anyhow) I'm using it as an example but once you learn how to FTP there are of course tons of other sites you can access - perhaps we'll make a list of peoples favorite FTP sites here. :)

Ruditoo

Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 09:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whit this thread has been so good. It has hit on some subjects M and I have an interest in Linux, Red Hat,Mac and transfering work from the office to home. We want to get awaaaay from Windows and Microsoft and their %@&* patches etc.. Thanks to all who are contributing to this thread.

Zachsmom

Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 07:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am on a mission now to make sure that Whit has 10 people learn this

sooooo

bump bump bump!!!

Lobster

Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 08:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whit, that was me the other night. LOL I'm very intrigued by this FTP thingie. I clicked on Dra's link knowing that you had changed something. WHen I got there I saw the folder and said, "Naw, that's a joke, right?" I opened it expecting to see something like, "Made ya look!!" Anyway, it wasn't a joke, but I didn't check out the pictures cuz I was scared that I might be scarred for life by what I would see. LOL

I do want to try this FTP though. My darling brother sent me a virus the other day that I'm pretty sure is gone. I just want to give it another day to make sure no one else sent it to me. I'll post when I try it and let you know how long it took me.

Phatcat

Monday, January 13, 2003 - 12:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OK, Whit...I'm gonna try this. I'll get back to you.

Phatcat

Monday, January 13, 2003 - 01:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Couldn't do it on AOL, so went to Internet Explorer and couldn't connect with your computer. Timed out...I guess that means that your computer is not turned on??? Thanks for this, Whit. I'm trying to learn all I can about my computer...since my WHOLE life seems to revolve around it. LOL If AOL hadn't screwed me up, it would have taken less than 5 minutes to follow your directions. YOU ROCK!!

Whit4you

Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 09:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Phat - I'm so sorry - my puter was off for a few days. Try again ok?

I'll post a few other options to put in place of my IP login/pass etc for others so this won't happen to someone else.

Feeling bummed that you went through the trouble to try this only to fail cause I only gave one option. At the time though my puter had been on for weeks so hadn't thought ahead.

Try now though it should work :)

Phatcat

Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 10:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, Whit, I feel like the biggest dummy in the world today. I spent all day yesterday FTPing. My screen set up is a little different than you described...four sections, with your computer on top left, mine on top right, I drag files to lower left and lower right shows progress or what action is taking place. The first dumb thing I did was drag the entire file folder that said Kids Stuff. After 2 hours of FTPing coloring books, I finally figured out how to abort the transfer. Took me another 30 minutes to figure out how to clear the queue. Then, after transferring all day, when I tried to open some of the files I got a message that said the file was corrupt. ARGHHHHHHHHH. So I spent the remainder of the night deleting all the files I had transferred. What am I doing wrong? You probably don't have time to fool with a dummy...and I certainly understand. I will go back and try to find some help files on this. Thanks again for allowing us access to your files. It will be wonderful when I figure out what I'm supposed to do. LOL

Sia

Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 11:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, I've read the entire thread and I'm totally confused. Whit, I understand that it would be neat to be able to swap files with someone, but what if one of the user's computers is infected with a virus? Would the normal virus-scanning programs catch that? Would you be giving people access to your financial information? I don't know enough about my computer to feel comfortable giving someone carte blanche with my p.c.!

Anyway, I thought I had downloaded a FTP program and an HTML editor, and I even went so far as to have my ISP activate my home page space, but I have been unable to actually design a web-page. I thought I needed to design the page with the HTML editor and then upload it to the 'net with the FTP program. Is this correct?

Whit4you

Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 06:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sia - no you definately want a Virus program (Nortons is the best I think) before downloading ANYTHING onto your PC and that would include emails from friends if they include a .exe .doc .com .sys file.

I don't think it's wise to be on the net period without an anti-virus program.

Even WITH an anti-virus program it's wise to use some caution. (with .exe .com .sys files)

The link in my example is directly to my own personal computer.

ALL the files on my HD (the example FTP) have been virus checked with the latest virus software. Does this mean they are 101% safe, most the files on my HD are older then the updated virus software so I'd give em a 99.9% safty factor.

Most the files people here would be interested in tho are 100% safe (the .jpg's which seem to be the biggest hit LOL) and .txt files and so on.

I've had 1 virus in 8 years online... so I do follow the safe computing guidelines - only because I don't back up my OWN stuff as often as I should. LOL.

If you use my FTP advice to explore other areas (as was the whole point to this) do practice safe computing... keep an up-to-date virus program... and back up your stuff as often as your willing to lose it. (Keep the previous update, and the one prior in case the last UPDATE contained the virus as well. Often times virus's are set to go off on a certain day so your LAST backup might contain that virus as well)

By the way to abort a transfer just close the Flash window. :)

Whit4you

Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 06:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Phat!!! Thwap! Actually you are not a dummy you are now an expert ... relatively speaking! (Don't you think I've done all those same things?)

And yes you are correct there ARE 4 sections... The top two that I referred to and the bottom two.

I hope you didn't delete all the kids coloring pages? They are worth keeping even if you don't have kids someone you know must... would make for a sweet present to print some of those out for them?

The saying 'there's no such thing as a free lunch" becomes very apparent in the FTP world. Often times you can spend hours and hours downloading something from an FTP only to find it didn't work. THIS does NOT mean all the files you downloaded don't work ... just that particular file / program etc.

I have .. oh I dunno ... 60? 80,000 files on my computer so no probably not everything on there "works" - you have my email addy? (new one is WhitInWa@netscape.com) you can email me if something you DL from my HD doesn't work and you'd like to find out why - or see if you can get a working copy.

Trust me hun your NOT a dummy... this FTP thing isn't rocket science but it's not 2+2 either. Every time we goof up or make a mistake we learn from it you know what I mean?>

Sometime this week I intend to give other IP login/pass info for people to try other examples besides MY on HD.

Sia

Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 06:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whit, I do use Norton Antivirus and firewall programs, Norton Internet Security, etc.

Whit4you

Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 06:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Then it's all good! :)

I read something in your post I thought I'd clarify... YOU getting on MY computer (or any computer using my FTP example) is not swapping files. I mean YOU can send THEM stuff, and you can GET stuff from that system (HD) but they can't get anything from YOU using my FTP example, unless YOU send it to them.

Make sense?

It's a one way street. From you TO them - if YOU send it, or from them TO YOU.

That's the reason, and I think I've pointed this out before? That one should use extreme caution in using a program like Direct Connect, unless you know what your doing - using THAT program can give others access to things you might not want to give them access to on your HD.

Zachsmom

Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 06:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
For those of you concerned about FTPing files from Whits computer..Whit cannot see anything on your computer (except for your IP address..I think..IOW she knows someone has accessed her computer)..the only way Whit can access a file on YOUR computer would be if you FTP it onto her hard drive.

Whit4you

Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 10:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Right.. I do know WHAT your getting from my computer.. but I honestly don't know WHO you are (cause I'm using this generic login (9-11) rather then requesting a say TVCH username as the login.

The only way I'd know who YOU are is if you happen to hang in the chat room and I care enough to konw who's been on my computer to compare the IP's (which I don't...)

It's still driving me crazy though.. trying to figure out how someone knew exactly where to find my pics.. they were in some obscure directory... and someone signed right on for the first time (the first time I'd seen that IP) and went right to this obscure directory. That's such a puzzle... one I'll never figure out unless the person wants to email me and tell me LOL.

When you set up a program that lets others FTP onto your computer... you can and should of course, control where they are allowed to go on your computer. And if they are allowed to send you files. I've given full access to my D drive via this 9-11 login. There are a few people that I'd trust with the keys to my house that have access to my entire computer... but unless you'd trust them to spend a week ON your computer without you around .. you'd never want to give someone access to everything on your computer.

FTPing to someones computer does not give them access to your computer though. You have to install and run a program such as 'serv-u' to do that.

FTPing just allows you to access someone else's computer.

Ok it's like this. If I give you the keys to MY garage, this doesn't mean you can access my house. And certainly doesn't mean I can access yours. The FTP info I gave to my computer earlier in this thread was like giving you the keys to my garage.

Abby7

Monday, January 20, 2003 - 01:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Zachsmom: I didn't even know what FTP stood for...that's how little I know...and finally you let us know. (I know Lori asked too). Okay, now Step 2...lol.