Archive through February 12, 2003
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Archive through February 12, 2003
Car54 | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 05:07 pm     You better do it. She is turning purple. |
Cyn | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 05:12 pm     Because of the important info that this post contains - I have copied it and placed it here. This is a subject that I am very familiar with and do volunteer stuff for regularly. And - although - this is a good practice to conduct - doctor's apppointments should always be done reguraly. Breast Exams for both MEN and WOMAN! Monthly breast self-examination (BSE) includes both looking and feeling over the entire breast and chest area. The steps can be performed in any order, but each step is important. You should use the pads, not the tips, of the three middle fingers when performing BSE. The time required to perform the exam varies with the size and features of a person's breasts but usually only takes about 15-20 minutes each month. You should be sure to examine the breasts in the same manner each month, check the entire breast and armpit area, and remember how the breasts feel from month to month. Some people prefer to keep a small diary of their monthly breast self-exams. Use three different patterns when examining the breasts each month:
1) Vertical or "up and down" pattern (or "squares") covering the entire breast. 2) Spiral or ring pattern, making concentric rings that tighten in a spiral, starting on the outer edges of the breast and ending around the nipple. 3) Wedge patterns in and out (or "quadrants"). You should use light, medium, and firm pressure and small "massaging" circles when palpating the breast using the patterns described above. You should not lift the fingers while feeling the breasts to ensure that no area is missed. You should perform a BSE when you can be in a private place that is free from disturbances, so you may concentrate fully on the examination. BSE should be performed in a warm room or during a warm shower so that the breast tissue is relaxed and easier to examine. Cold air or cold water causes the breasts and nipples to contract and may make examining the breasts more difficult. You may prefer to use a small amount of baby powder or talcum powder on the skin of breasts to help reduce friction and allow the fingers to move more easily over the skin. In addition to performing BSE in front of a mirror, you can also do it while standing in a warm shower. Soapy fingers reduce friction and allow some breast changes to be more easily recognized. For me, this is the easiest and best method. Pics, permission and help courtesy of the American Cancer Society. Copyright granted only for this thread's use. Article about how Richard Roundtree, the original Shaft had breast cancer and recovered from it. |
Squaredsc | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 05:26 pm     lol car. |
Whit4you | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 06:43 pm     My Uncle Bill who has been like my father for the past 20+ years passed away this morning after a long battle with cancer - I came here tonight to be with my family for a bit of mental diversion... hard to laugh at a time like this but that thread did make me laugh yesterday. I personally think it's normal and healthy for a male to want to look at and fondle female breasts, and really don't see anything offensive about that nor what it would have to do even remotely with breast cancer. I just don't get the arguement here personally - there are things I don't agree with and I just tend to avoid those threads, I don't go into them and act offended because others are choosing to discuss the topic. But that's just me, to each their own I guess. All I can say is I haven't had much to laugh at or smile about the past month or so and that thread did make me laugh and smile... so thank you Adven - kiss* |
Jmm | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 06:51 pm     ((((((WHIT)))))) |
Twiggyish | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 06:52 pm     ((Whit))I'm sorry about your Uncle. Thanks Cyn, important to know. Moses, they would have moved it earlier. I have a feeling they're keeping it here a bit longer. |
Squaredsc | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 06:57 pm     (((Whit))) I'm sorry for your loss. |
Kristylovesbb | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 07:06 pm     Whit, so sorry for your loss. |
Suitsmefine | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 07:32 pm     Awww, Whit, I am so very sorry for your loss...{{{{{{{Whit}}}}}}}] |
Whit4you | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 07:48 pm     Kiss* thanks guys please save these hugs till next tuesday I am going to be so desperate for them then it's not funny.. right now I'm still in denial pretty much but I'll be going then to my first funeral since I decided at 10 not to ever go to one again, I'll talk about that and get your support then I know it's going to be beyong what I can handle without lots of support ... and I know dealing with someone who's down can become draining which is why I've mostly lurked the past few months but one day soon I'll be 'back' to the old fun Whit again... but for now - carry on please, seeing my family have a little 'spat' is a good deversion. I know you all care about each other and it's totally normally for families to have little spats so it's all good... Now for the real question - (anything to gear this convo back - I need you to save the moral support...) had Adven's study been on female knees would it have caused this termoil and if not why not how do knees truly differ from breasts really, especially say to a man with a knee fetish.... |
Karuuna | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 07:58 pm     Whit, I don't know of a single guy who ever got arrested for feeling women's knees without their permission. I think there are plenty of examples of guys who got arrested for doing the same to women's breasts. How's that for a difference? |
Whit4you | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 08:02 pm     Well touching (even spitting) on someone anywhere without their permission is illegal in most states, but I do get your point and thanks for getting the convo back on track with me (((hug))) I think it's a societal thing, in at least one country a women's ankles are like 'breasts' are here. |
Kaili | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 08:11 pm     If I was sitting on a bus or something and some guy grabbed my knee...and especially if he started stroking it...there would be problems. Hands off for strangers, thank you. Sorry to hear about your Uncle, Whit.... (((hugs))) |
Karuuna | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 08:19 pm     okay, but seriously, which would be more offensive to you? Someone grabbing your breast, or someone grabbing your knee? Think of it that way. |
Whit4you | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 08:24 pm     No I did get your point Karu... it's impossible for me to discuss this in an unbiased way since I could not possibly count the # of times I've ever said I'd like to "grab his buns".... or what have you, if Adven is guilty of something in his thread then it's something I'm guilty of 100X over. |
Kaili | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 08:25 pm     I do think of it that way- there would be much more than problems...there would be fists flying. Same for my hiney |
Karuuna | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 08:29 pm     well, whit, 50 lashes for you then. (me too, Kaili) |
Whit4you | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 08:33 pm     So - I think Adven was joking - apparently jokes about this are offensive to some... so should we not be allowed to joke about anything that anyone might possibly find offensive here? If that were the case perhaps 60% of the convo's here would need deleted. There is almost nothing you could say in humor that *someone* wouldn't find offensive...or for that matter anything you can say period that someone wouldn't find offensive... Or we could preface everything we say here with "Sorry in Advance if I offend anyone" Lets abbrivate it though for simplicity to SAOA (see where I'm going with this....?) |
Karuuna | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 08:43 pm     whit, that's not the point. It will sometimes be difficult to draw the line. But as I said earlier, it's clear that some subjects are not laughing matters. I don't joke about rape, or incest. Since I've worked with many young girls who have been fondled, I don't find that a laughing matter either. That's just how I see it. |
Whit4you | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 08:55 pm     Don't think he was joking about rape incest or young girls - if that had been the case I would have been highly offended myself... His thing was more like many of the gals here when it comes to men.... How many gals here oogle various men on BB / Surivor or say Jeff Probst or that Mole guy... haven't heard any of the guys get offended by that (or maybe I missed it) |
Karuuna | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 08:59 pm     well, I guess we'll just have to disagree, Whit. I just don't see the humor in groping women uninvited and getting slapped for it. There's a difference between appreciating an attractive body, and wanting to "use" that body for your own pleasure/whatever. One is a compliment, the other is treating a person like an object, which I think is wrong no matter what sex you are. |
Whit4you | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 09:02 pm     Ok we will have to disagree - still luv ya of course I am curious though if you are offended all the times people talked about groping Hardy or Will or Jeff Probst (or the Mole guy who had whole threads devoted to the lust over him...) and especially Colby..and so on ... I never really noticed any uproar the many times people did that here... so wondering if it's a double standard at work here for some or if it's just the lull between BB's that make certain things more significant now |
Karuuna | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 09:11 pm     Yes, Whit, I was. And I didn't comment on those items, just like I didn't comment on this one, until I was asked. You'll also note that I never participated in those conversations either. |
Whit4you | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 09:15 pm     Bet your glad you can say that at this moment "I never participated in those convo's" - works well in your favor. I guess anyone who can say the same - would just have to try to accept that this is an adult forum and we will talk about things here and there that others find offensive - best we can do in those cases is close the thread and move on to one of the many other alternatives here. I think we'd be hard pressed to find any adult conversation anywhere where nobody would ever be offended - (accept perhaps in the church of our faith) (just my two cents) |
Karuuna | Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 09:21 pm     well, Whit, as I said, I do close the conversation and move on. The only reason I got involved in this one, is because that's what the thread was for - Adven wanted to know why some were offended. Now I'm pretty much wishing I hadn't answered. |
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