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Wargod

Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 11:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fanny get your bottom over to the chat reminder thread...left something there for you.

Mygetaway

Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 12:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks everybody.. This has been really interesting :)

Fanny

Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 12:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh War how fun. Thanks! Whatever date is fine with me. Let's party on, dudes!

Whoami

Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 12:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I also was going to say something along the line of how arrogant it would be of us to think we are the only sentient beings!

I have one theory (just a theory. It is radical, and some may think I'm really full of ****. I don't hold firmly to it, but it does give one reason to think)....that we (humans) were left here from another planet. Think about it. What does a parasite do...invade the host, and take over. What has Man done to this Earth? Everywhere you look, Nature was in perfect balance, every part of it existing for a purpose that benefited everything around it. As soon as Man gets involved, Nature is thrown off balance. Plants and animals become extinct, and even the air, water, and soil is adversly affected. I've often thought of Man as a virus, or parasite to the earth. Which means, Man was not an original part of the Plan Nature had.

Take it a bit further, and perhaps White Man is the parasite. Again, look at the Native cultures of any land, and what was done to them once White Man decided that land would suit them just fine. I'm white BTW, so I'm not trying to start anything here. The Native cultures (Indians, Mayans, Maori, etc), all lived in balance with the earth around them. It was the White Man who threw that all off.

You know the song "Get Together" (or something like that). There's a line in it that says..."when the one who left us here, returns for us at last...." Just what does that mean?

And, why do we look up to the sky, to look for our God? Are we really looking for that ship that left us here, millions of years ago?

..cringing now. Wondering who might read this and think, "dang, Who's really wacked. And here I thought she was pretty cool. I guess I better steer clear of her...."

Mygetaway

Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 02:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
WhoAmI.. I don't think your wacked at all. That's what I love about this place. I love hearing everyones different thoughts. Who can really say what the truth is. I don't think we'll ever really know. I think I believe differrent things at different times. And I understand what you are saying about us wrecking the perfect balance of the world we inhabit. I believe that is very true, and it took us way too long to figure it out.

Goddessatlaw

Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 02:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe we should all make Whoami feel a little less whacked and confess to our own weird theories (by the way, yours isn't weird, Who - if you've ever read "Chariots of the Gods" it's premised on much the same notion.)

My weird theory is this: I don't believe there's any such thing as "time." I think "time" is a notion created by our limited experience as humans here on earth, where anything that lives also dies. I don't think there was a beginning to the universe, or that there will be an end. It has always been here, and always will be. Which neither speaks for or against Genesis, because I think God has always been here, too.

Edited to add: maybe we should take a vote on who has the most whacked theory after the stories are in.

Babyruth

Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 03:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Goddess, grab your drink and hang on.....I agree with you on something! I don't think time is real, either. I consider time to be a concept born of a need to make sense of life.

Only place we differ here is the God part. I put that in there with time and numbers...things we created/perceived to give meaning and understanding to our lives.

Zeno39

Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 03:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whoami, I don't think you are crazy at all. You bring up some interesting points to think about. You sure are right about the our people making a mess of our planet. It is in terrible shape, and things are only going to get worse. A lot of it has to do with GREED! Where I live, it used to be so beautiful along the beaches in its natural state. Along come developers who slap up tall condos in every space, blocking the view of the water and beach, laying asphalt, bulldozing trees and everything in its path to build more and more. That is just only part of the problems. The American Indian had a great thing going until our ancestors came along and screwed it up- taking their land, etc. If anyone should be compensated, it should be them. I could go on and on, but you get the gist.

Moondance

Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 04:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whoami
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Webkitty

Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 04:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jumping back in! Fanny, thanks for kudos.

Goddess, I think your right about time.

Whoami, my theory is similar to yours. I sometimes wonder if we (humans) were left on earth by either other humans from another planet, or aliens. I think earth might have been used as a penal colony, like the British used for Australia. This would have to be after the dinosaur age, of course.

Think about it. If a modern day group of people were taken to another planet that would support natural life, and left there, with no electronics, or modern advances, and they survived, and had children, they would have no way to pass down knowlege other than story telling and cave drawings.

Survival would be first, no time to re-invent electricity, which would be key to everything else to follow. Once the original group had passed on, the knowlege and memory of what they knew would fade, but some of it would survive, through legend and myths. It might take hundreds of thousands of years to come full circle. Just a thought.

Squaredsc

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 04:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
jbean-- what is puppy chow? i am assuming you don't mean the dog food.

Halfunit

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 04:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Square - I'm gonna take a shot at this one, not having read Jbean's post...

A girl at work talked about eating this stuff and I almost got sick - thought the dog food route. Apparently, there is some snack with rice chex, pretzels and chocolate and powdered sugar or something like that.

I'd like to hear Jbeans ingredients, if this is what it is!

Squaredsc

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 05:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
thanks 1/2, i was hoping its some kind of people food, lol.

Bookworm

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 06:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I make puppy chow. It is Chex (or Crispix, etc.) with a coating of melted chocolate chips and peanut butter and then powdered sugar on the outside. Very yummy. Crispix used to have a recipe for this on their cereal boxes. Not sure how it got the name puppy chow, it looks and (I assume) tastes nothing like dog food.

Squaredsc

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 06:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
thanks bookworm.

Sia

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 06:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You guys, the Muddy Buddies recipe on the Rice Chex box is what that "dog chow" sounds like, and I've made it and it's delicious!! If I can find the recipe, I'll be glad to put it up. You don't add pretzels, though; it's all SWEET. No salty stuff in the mixture. You coat the Rice Chex with melted chocolate and then with powdered sugar. Delicious! And loaded with major carbs!!

Sia

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 07:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Muddy Buddies

mudbuddies

1 teaspoon vanilla
1 1/2 cups powdered sugar
1/2 cup Skippy® peanut butter
1 package (6 ounces) semisweet chocolate chips (1 cup)
1/4 cup margarine or butter*
9 cups Chex® cereal (any variety)


Measure cereal into large bowl; set aside. Microwave chocolate chips, peanut butter and margarine in 1-quart microwavable bowl, uncovered on High 1 minute; stir. Microwave 30 seconds longer or until mixture can be stirred smooth. Stir in vanilla. Pour chocolate mixture over cereal in bowl, stirring until evenly coated. Pour into large plastic food-storage bag; add powdered sugar. Seal bag; shake until well coated. Spread on waxed paper to cool. Store in airtight container in refrigerator. 9 cups snack.
*Do not use spread or tub products.


Important: Because microwaves cook differently, time is approximate.


Range Top Directions: Measure cereal into large bowl; set aside. Heat chocolate chips, peanut butter and margarine in 1-quart saucepan over low heat, stirring frequently, until melted. Remove from heat; stir in vanilla. Continue as directed above.

Halfunit

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 07:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, that sounds like the puppy chow the girl at work puts together. She uses pretzels too. But she's weird, and puts peanuts in with her candy corn....

<ducking from those who mix sweet and salt and are going to throw peanuts at me>

Zachsmom

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 07:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Half..try popcorn and M&Ms..my (now ex) sister in law used to do this..thought she was weird too..until I tried it..:)

Jbean

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 07:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
bookworm is right about the puppy chow....it is SO GOOD! i'm excited that someone finally was curious about one of my facts...lol :)

Jbean

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 07:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
sia's recipe is the exact one i use....except i don't use skippy pb...oh well

Jmm

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 07:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jbean, That's because choosy mothers choose Jif. LOL

Zachsmom

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 07:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Why do I have visions of Tonya going through my head?

Squaredsc

Monday, December 16, 2002 - 08:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
lol you guys. jbean, you're welcome.

Sia

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 01:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I buy Reese's peanut butter most often, myself, but the Chex web-site lists Skippy as the "peanut butter of choice." Choose your own poison, I say, LOL! I LOVE peanut butter, but it's pretty high in fat. Any brand at all will work just fine.

I have a really good peanut butter cookie recipe if anyone's interested; I USED TO bake REAL cookies, but this year have bought the dough ready-made at the grocery store. I'm getting worse and worse in my old age!

Denecee

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 02:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whoami, I just read your theory about white man being the parasite. What about Japan and China? Their country is just as messed up as ours, isn't it? The earth is a pretty big place and I think we will inhabit it until an asteroid hits us. Isn't that sad? That's nature, we little humans can't do much about it. I think we have the know how to change the way things are but a few very greedy people are blocking the way.