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Hillbilly

Saturday, November 23, 2002 - 12:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay...the above is an article by a Canadian reporter in a Canadian paper. Its an archive article from 1998. Since I'm not familiar with the credibility of this author, paper, or the Canadian investigators mentioned, maybe someone from Canada can give some insight on their opinion of this article.

Hillbilly

Saturday, November 23, 2002 - 01:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Blood on the White House and firebombed evidence
By Gerard Jackson

No. 121, 31 May - 6 June 1999

When it comes to protecting Bill Clinton's backside the Australian media is without peer, even putting CBS and CNN to shame. What it cannot cover up or ignore it downplays or ridicules. So sickening is its shameless support for Clinton that Murdoch's Australian even published an item by Cameron Forbes1 containing smart-aleck and misleading comments about Juanita Broaddrick. You remember her, don't you? The woman who claimed Clinton raped her. That no one seems to doubt the charge was also ignored by The Australian.

This brings us to bloodgate, another scandal that American-based Australian journalists ignored — or is it suppressed? When Clinton was governor of Arkansas in the 1980s he allowed the selling of HIV-tainted plasma that had been taken from convicts. Since the early 1980s the sale of convict blood in the US has been illegal. Nevertheless, exports to Canada continued for years. To make sure of sales the origin of the contaminated plasma was withheld from the unsuspecting Canadians. Once they discovered the source of the contamination they demanded that the U.S. Justice Department investigate Clinton's role in a prison program that clearly violated a 1983 FDA ban on the use of blood from convicts. Last January 1000 victims of this murderous scheme sued Canadian officials for $US1.1 billion. They plan to file a similar suit will against the FDA and the state of Arkansas, another of Clinton's victims.

The main inspiration for the bloodgate inquiry came from Dr Michael Galster, a former employee of Health Management Associates, the Arkansas company contracted by Arkansas to collect and sell prison blood. By pure coincidence this company was also run by the chair of Clinton's re-election finance committee. Moreover, when the company's licence was revoked by the state's medical authorities because of its poor medical practices, Clinton abused his power as governor and ordered the licence to be renewed.

Outraged at what Clinton did to them, those Canadian haemophiliacs who have been infected with hepatitis C and HIV are demanding justice. Last February hundreds of these victims of Arkansas political corruption gathered in Washington to condemn the man they hold responsible for their tragic plight. Dr Galster addressed the protestors and publicly accused Clinton of "personally withholding 400 cases of documents" that described HMA's shipping schemes.

This is when another of Clinton's remarkable coincidences occurred. On Tuesday night the 18 May Dr Galster's Clinic in Pine Bluff, Arkansas, was firebombed leaving only a burnt out shell. Dr Galster has yet to say whether documents on Clinton's bloodgate scandal were stored in the Clinic. At the same time, again by pure coincidence, someone broke into the Quebec chapter of the Canadian Haemophilia Society. The society had recently discovered documents showing that Finance Minister Paul Martin was a board member of the corporation that owned Connaught Laboratories, the company that distributed the Arkansas contaminated plasma in Canada. Like I said, just another Clinton coincidence.

And where were our intrepid Australian journalists? Those bronzed media heroes of a "sunburnt country." Nowhere, is the answer. They allowed this appalling scandal to go completely unreported in the Australian media. While Stewart Cameron and Cameron Forbes of The Australian seem to forever scurry around America's political landscape reporting stories that confirm their left-wing bigotry, Clinton's scandals are never investigated.

http://www.newaus.com.au/us121blood.html
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This is an archived article from an australian paper. Again, I'm not familiar with the author or the paper. Just surfin the net.

Hillbilly

Saturday, November 23, 2002 - 01:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Here is a link to an archived article dated 1999 from the Arkansas Times. I'm only posting the link because the article is VERY long and VERY detailed regarding this issue. It gives more names of those involved and more detail into what occured in the prison system here and with HMA, the company that collected the tainted blood.

http://www.arktimes.com/990115coverstory.html

Twinkie

Saturday, November 23, 2002 - 01:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I wouldn't add to this thread if you put a gun to my head. LOL I won't talk to friends about politics or religion and I consider all of you friends.

Jo_5329

Saturday, November 23, 2002 - 03:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris said on Friday, November 22, 2002 - 04:51 pm
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what does clinton have to do with a pharmaceutical company in new jersey? The world net daily is not exactly what I would considered a non partisan publication. I am amazed that years later right wing zealots still trying to pin everything except the earthquake in India on Clinton. Those people are crackpots.


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No more than Pres Bush is responsible for the weather in Africa -- and trust me, I've heard this one and others!

It matters only if Former Gov of Ark Clinton was aware that this blood was not processed correctly for safety. It matters only if he knew after the fact this may have happened and didn't warn our allies (yeah, the ones that think we suck now, yet still do business with this country's companies).

What matters is that it never happens again.

(And the crack pot statement made earlier about American Foreign policy and that people of america are not hated personally, but for our government's policies? As far as I'm concerned, anyone that would blame something done by a priviately owned company on the US government forgein policy has a screw loose and is reaching for anything to blame the US for.)

Jo

Hillbilly

Saturday, November 23, 2002 - 07:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The question for me is: did Gov. Clinton still allow blood collection from prison inmates after the FDA identified prison inmates as a high risk group and issued a regulation against it? From the research I've done so far (extensive research within the last 2 days), the answer is looking alot like 'yes'.

What is amazing to me is that there is information about this dating to 1998...yet you never heard one thing about Canadians receiving tainted blood from a US company in the mainstream press. And the fact that this would be done by my own state...galls me.

Zachsmom

Saturday, November 23, 2002 - 08:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Screening blood for AIDS/HIV & their tests were not even produced until 1985

After dozens of Americans are infected with AIDS from blood transfusions, the first blood-screening test to detect the presence or absence of HIV antibodies -- the ELISA test -- is licensed by the U.S. government on March 2. The test is universally adopted by American blood banks and plasma centers.

Here is for 1987:

A series of more sensitive tests are developed and implemented to screen donated blood for infectious diseases: two tests that screen for indirect evidence of hepatitis; the Human T-Lymphotropic-Virus-I-antibody (anti-HTLV-I) test; the hepatitis C test; the HIV-1 and HIV-2 antibodies test; the HIV p24 antigen test; and Nucleic Acid Amplification Testing (NAT) that directly detects the genetic material of viruses like HCV and HIV.

Here is the link to the above quotes

Now..I keep hearing that it was early 80's. The tests weren't even created and universal screening wasn't until mid-late 80's. What was the dates that blood in question was collected from the prison systems? What was the law of Arkansas at the time for collecting blood from prisons systems?

I tried finding facts..like Arkansas law for testing blood in the 1980's but cannot find it. Has anyone else had any luck?

Djgirl5235

Saturday, November 23, 2002 - 11:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hillbilly, et al:

You asked if someone could add credibility to the archived articled found in the Ottawa Citizen in 1998... The Ottawa Citizen is THE paper for Ottawa, much like the Toronto Star, etc., and is considered a very reputable paper. Although I live in Toronto, my family lives in Ottawa, and I read this paper when I'm there. I will not comment any further on the contents of the articles posted above, as this situation is just coming to fruition, and as we all know, we are fed only crumbs of the actuality in all news reports, and until a lot happens with this situation over the next few weeks, we won't KNOW what's going on until all can be compared and weighted. As for this whole situation, I remember when the news came to light about the tainted blood, and it was in the mid - 80's... That's all that I'd like to say on this...

Hillbilly

Saturday, November 23, 2002 - 08:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks DJ....

Zmom...those are all very good questions. I've been searching for them as well. There is a site with the report released by the Canadian commission/committee who investigated this. I guess this news caught my attention because it involved my state and Clinton's time as governor. By the way, one question I would like to know is when did they finally stop collecting blood from prison inmates here? Was Jim Guy Tucker, the governor after Clinton, involved in this as well?

I would like to see an investigation into this on the American side as well. What happened to HMA's liability in all of this? There must be records of blood collection here, how much, how long, destruction records if the blood was destroyed, etc.? Alot of questions that should be answered. Unfortunately, I do not see any interest to do an investigation here.

Sia

Sunday, November 24, 2002 - 05:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Since the subject of the former president has come up, I wonder if any super-sleuths out there have the interest/time/energy/resources to see if any of the claims in the list below can be substantiated. This is taken from something I saw on the web in February of last year. I myself have NOT tried to verify anything in this list; please don't accuse me of anything. This is just something I've wondered about since first seeing this, and if anyone can prove or disprove any of the claims in the list, I would be most interested. Thanks:

The fate of some of Clinton's associates:

James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an
apparent heart attack while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.

Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she
was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

Vince Foster - Former white House counselor and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the
head, ruled a suicide.

Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot
wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.

C. Victor Raiser II - & - Montgomery Raiser, Major players in the Clinton
fundraising organization, died in a private plane crash in July1992.

Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director, found dead
in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "dear friend and trusted advisor."

Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in Virginia of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her
in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fundraising events.

Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened
to reveal this information. After he died, the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "black book" of people containing names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

Kathy Ferguson, ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

Bill Shelton - Arkansas state Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound (also ruled a suicide) at the grave site of his fiancee.

Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one-car accident.

Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas
Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparent suicide in the middle of his investigation.

Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise." Was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. He had delivered a report to Janet Reno three weeks before his death.

Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guarantee scandal.

Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee. Died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.

Barry Seal - Drug-running pilot out of Mena Arkansas. Death was no accident.

Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guarantee. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund-raiser. Died March 1, 1994 when his plane
exploded.

Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "the boys on the track" case. Reports that the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the two boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING SEVEN PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES / HENRY CASE:
Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, July, 1988
Keith McMaskle - Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes.
Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pick-up truck in June 1990.
Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
Major William S. Barkley Jr.
Captain Scott J. Reynolds
Sgt. Brian Hanley
Sgt. Tim Sabel
Major General William Robertson
Col. William Densberger
Col. Robert Kelly
Spec. Gary Rhodes
Steve Willis
Robert Williams
Conway LeBleu
Todd McKeehan

Neko

Sunday, November 24, 2002 - 06:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That quite a bit of people in the span of 1988 to 1997...

Sia

Sunday, November 24, 2002 - 07:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It does seem like quite a string of people, Neko, if you're referring to the thing that I posted. It struck me odd when I first saw it, and, as I say, I always wanted to research the stories to see if any of them were true, but have never taken the time. Always seems like a bunch of other things take precedence, like my kids!

Whowhere

Monday, November 25, 2002 - 05:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't understand this. I mean, if there's any shred of evidence that there's been foul play, then why haven't the victims' families brought anyone to justice over this? Fear of being murdered next?

I'm totally beside myself that these subjects have not been investigated further and are not in the current headline news.

Unbelieveable.

Hillbilly

Monday, November 25, 2002 - 02:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whowhere...probably for the same reason that it took years to bring the head of a NYC crime family to justice. Disclaimer: I am NOT in any way, shape, or form associating ANYONE to a crime family. I'm just trying to say that sometimes it is almost impossible to bring people to justice when facts and evidence may have been destroyed and witnesses may have been intimidated.

The police departments across the country are full of unsolved cases. Murders still go unsolved for years.

Justice is not always possible and people do get away with their crimes. It's just a fact of life. Thanks to shows like America's Most Wanted and Unsolved Mysteries some have been solved but most will not be.

The case of Kevin Ives and Don Henry is a particularly sad case and one that I believe will never be solved. I do not nor have I ever believed that these two boys fell asleep on railroad tracks smoking pot. I believe they were already dead when placed on the track.