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Rissa

Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 09:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Goddess, isn't that terrible? 40% {sigh} And especially with what's happening around us... you would think we could get at LEAST every 2nd person to give a damm. It's not like 90%+ of Cdn's show up at the polls either.. for countries so hot-set on democracy we sure don't treat the process with any respect. <soap-box being put away now>

A couple things that surprised me.... keeping in mind that all I know of most of these races is from cross-border advertising. One is that the Wellstone/Mondale race was lost. To be a big cold about it, I thought that since Wellstone was said to be a certain winner that sympathy over his death would help Mondale take it in a cakewalk.

Just checking the charts. You are right about California.. it does seem very close for that state. My bias would that that CA would be much more heavily Dem.

I am also reading some of the special ballots that were thrown in with the vote:

Florida is voting Yes on indoor smoking restrictions? That's surprising.. I thought those rules were already wide-spread. Geez, where I am we even have some OUTDOOR smoking restrictions.

The vote on Medicinal Marij. in Arizona seems fuzzy to me. It's a jumble of medicinal use rules and changing the criminal charges for non-medicinal use. Seems to me, these are two seperate issues and shouldn't have been lumped together.

Rissa

Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 09:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hillbilly,

I haven't read all the special ballot's, but I am not surprised about the animal cruelty one if it read anything like the marij. one. That one seemed to be that a yes vote meant 1) allowing medicinal use 2) doubling punishment for recreation use.... WELL, maybe I agree with one but not the other. They shouldn't have put two such different issues on the same ballot. Then again, maybe that was the whole point. LOL

Hillbilly

Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 10:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Rissa...please don't just rely on the Clinton News Network for news here <and I'm not trying to throw a barb at ya>. This network distorts the news. If you want a better picture, try watching several of our news channels. Maybe this will help you and others:

Liberal Press
- all the networks (CBS/NBC/ABC)
- CNN

Moderate to Liberal
- MSNBC

Conservative
- FOXNews

I usually try to watch FOX and one of the liberals news programs to get both sides of the issue. Quite frankly, FOX has become the news leader and has left CNN in the dust as far as the ratings go. Every news channel will put their own slant on the news but some are more fair than others...or at least try to be.

CNN does not reflect the total picture of America. If you listen to them...Al Gore won the popular vote by a landslide (untrue..he had less than a 1% lead over Bush)...nobody in America supports Bush (also untrue)....nobody in America except Bush thinks we should attack Iraq (also untrue).

Just be sure you hear both sides before you make up your mind on an issue. I don't necessarily disregard anything Democrat...we have some very good people in Congress who are Democrats...you just have to know who they are (not Daschle/Gephart/Leahy).

And I happen to agree with you....if you don't vote, you don't get to complain.

Rissa

Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 10:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hillbilly, I REALLY don't want to start a Gore/Bush discussion. I have seen it before and it's wayyyy tooo ugly. :) But speaking for myself, my friends and family.... we all have the same opinion on that election.. it was 50/50!! When you are discussing millions upon millions of votes, the few that separated the two men were negligible. JMO !!! The above has no impact on which man I prefer to have the office. I find when I say the above a lot of people assume it means I must be a Bush supporter which always suprises me. because I haven't indicated a preferance either way.

I catch CNN online (along with other sites like MSNBC and Fox) because I can get faster regional news that way. But when I want *quality* news reporting, I stick to the Canadian and British sites and channels (running like heck from irate neighbors to the south LOL}

Hillbilly

Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 10:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Rissa...I don't know why they assume that either when you are only stating a hard fact and not an opinion.

Don't worry, you don't have to discuss either party...I just get annoyed at the one way slant that seems to be given out by the news channels on both sides and nobody ever challenges or looks to see what the other side has to say.

Marysafan

Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 10:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Rissa...I visit the Canadan news sites regularly for a more independent perspective. There is WAY to much bias in our news...worse...too much "hype and drama" created for the sole purpose of generating ratings. When I want a clearer perspective...I turn to our neighbors to the north.

In our country, the news isn't about informing people...it's about generating ratings to attract advertising dollars to make money. Once you realize that...you can see right through the baloney.

Secondly, it's about giving a voice to the politics of the owners of the network...and once you figure out who that is...and what works to their benefit...you can sort out tha baloney too.

So when I am knee deep in baloney...I look to Canada. I just wish I could get an ALL Canadian channel. I would definitely pay a subscription for that.

Hillbilly

Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 10:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Mary...I usually go British.

Meggieprice

Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 10:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
But don't forget one important thing, HB,Anderson is on CNN!

Marej

Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 10:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Mondale lost because of Rick Kahn. He is the person who turned the Wellstone memorial into a political pep rally. And made a lot of people upset.

Meggieprice

Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 10:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't mean to make light of the issue- I listen to all with the knowledge that the truth lies in between.

But I sure do like that Anderson.

Hillbilly

Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 10:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Meggie...you can make light of the issue...what's wrong with that? Unfortunately, I don't know who Anderson is. The other station I usually watch is MSNBC. I hardly ever watch CNN anymore. So ...is this someone I should check out and when are they on?

Goddessatlaw

Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 11:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Only if you're into cute boys, HB.

Whowhere

Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 11:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Anderson Cooper? From The Mole?

Marysafan

Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 11:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The one and only!

Meggieprice

Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 11:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I would much rather watch him on the Mole but CNN wont let him do both <<<sob>>>

He can do what he wants-he's a Vanderbilt.

Jagger

Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 11:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I've been reading some of these posts and I've been seeing that it was being reported that Wellstone would have won if he were still here to defend his position, I've also heard that on the news the past few days, I'm not sure where this information is coming from because most surveys had him leading slightly, but other polls had Coleman leading. I think this race would have been just as close and the outcome would have been the same whether it was Wellstone or Mondale in it. I have heard from numerous people that were going to vote for Coleman and than changed their mind to Mondale because of Wellstones death, and vise verse voting for Coleman because they didn't know much about Mondale.

I beleive a lot of Minnesotans were sick of the way our state and the county has been run over the past 10 years and wanted a change, look at who we elected 4 years ago for a govenor just because we wanted a change. I personally was sick of Wellstone for his wanting to give everyone hand outs without making them work for them. I have nothing wrong with giving people hand outs if they indeed need them, but when we get people moving into this state and they immideatly get aid just because they aren't from this country is wrong IMO.

Hopefully we will become a little more strict with how the money is spent

Goddessatlaw

Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 11:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What's the generalization? "Americans want the liberals out of their pockets and the conservatives out of their bedrooms." Can't say I disagree with that one.

Sbw

Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 12:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
GAL, just depends on what conservative you are talking about being in my bedroom! :)