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Fluff

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 09:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Uggghhh!

I can't believe that he is still there! Bush asked O'Neill to resign! This is worse in my opinion!

Cyn

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 10:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Watching CNN and they are showing African Americans watching Trent Lott interview on Bet and they are laughing. They report that every person they have talked to has an opinion and want us to drop them an email wanting to know if you think that most Americans are racist.

This is actually great, because now a dialogue has been opened to discuss issues that should have been continued ongoing conversations from the start being that the US is a conglomerate of the world's people.

Bastable

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 11:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree, Cyn. This raises a major, MAJOR question:

How'd this guy, with this awful record, thrive as a politician for so long?

If we all agree that it's unacceptable (and it seems like we do), how did Lott get everything he got in our government with no one challenging him? And how many more are still serving?

Crossfire

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 11:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
People need to stop picking on people. Period.

Here is an example that burst into the Canadian news this week. Some outrageous statements by a highly respected native indian chief who was also awarded one of Canada's highest civilian honors. You would think he would know better. But this stuff comes from all sides.

http://www.canada.com/national/story.asp?id={9CC24026-38BA-4A83-AC96-C51160B763B7}

(I would have made that clickable with a nice description embedded in the text of my message, but whoever made this software got too clever for themselves and had to invent a new way to make a link which breaks this one since it includes a brace in the link copy and paste should do the trick.)

Fluff

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 11:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I find this situation very trifling. What kind of mistake is that??? Why hasn't he been told to resign yet?

Goddessatlaw

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 11:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Here's a little something from March 5, 2001 on our friend, Mr. Byrd (currently 4th in line to the presidency):


"Where's the Outrage Over Robert Byrd?"

Fluff

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 11:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, maybe it is because nobody has heard of him.

Fluff

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 11:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
And from reading that, I don't think he even knew what he was talking about. Heheheee! His comment made no sense. And it probably wasn't broadcasted on the news a hundred times either. Nut.

Goddessatlaw

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 11:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
PR 21 is a distinguished conservative African American group, and here is their press release regarding the Lott controversy. Interesting last paragraph:

"PR 21 Addresses the Lott-Thurmond Controversy"

Bastable

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 11:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Goddessatlaw, just because other people are also racist is NOT a reason to let Lott off the hook.

It's a reason to make more hooks. This is a democracy, and the government should represent the people and the Constitution. I have no problem picking on politicians, regardless of their party, and holding them to high standards. It's not mean or mudslinging. Free speech is our job as citizens of a democracy.

These politicians work for US, and criticizing them is the best way to make sure they do their job for all of us.

Conejo

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 11:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for the links Goddess, I was unaware that PR 21 existed. Looks to me like some of these Dems have some explaining to do - but, you know, the Liberal Media never reports this kind of hypocracy and god forbid hold anyone accountable.

Karuuna

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 11:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hmmmm... I thought the so-called "liberal" media reported extensively on Jesse Jackson's hypocrisy, and pretty much ended his career, eh?

Goddessatlaw

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 12:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bastable: I reiterate, I want Lott out. I'm not stating that racism's ok anywhere it's found - but let's call a racist a racist, and deal with ALL of them in a like manner.

Goddessatlaw

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 12:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What career? I'm still trying to figure out what Jesse Jackson does for a living, now or ever.

Karuuna

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 12:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL, Goddess, touche.

Conejo

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 12:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Didn't Jackson headup some Rainbow Coalition or something to that effect and used non-profit donations to pay for his "love child's" mothers' new house and moving expenses?

Marysafan

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 12:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There are bad apples on both sides of the fence. I honestly feel that there is ample corruption on both sides two warrant the emergence of a viable third party.

Jesse Ventura recently said that the only difference between the US and Iraq is that in the US we have one more choice.

I cannot tell you how many times I have gone to the voting booth to vote for the lesser of two evils. I cannot even remember the last time I voted for a candidate that I actually trusted or believed in.

Everytime I have gone to vote for a third party candidate..I was advised against doing so because it would be throwing away my vote. I think that I would rather throw away my vote than use it to elect some of the slimeballs in office today. At least I wouldn't feel personally responsible for helping to put them there.

The time for change is coming. The people are getting fed up with all the lies and hypocrisy. There is a new generation coming that is better educated, more integrated, and more globally aware than any previous generation.

If they ever get active and start working on cleaning up the financial and moral mess created by Mr Brokaw's "greatest generation", they will be a force to be reckoned with. Instead they sit on the sidelines fearful of losing their material comforts and disenfranchised from what they perceive to be a corrupt system beyond repair.

I don't know what it is going to take to get them moving...but another attack on our soil is sure to stir the pot some more. BOTH major parties have failed to provide adequate representation to the people...and solve the social and economic problems that plague us.

Fluff

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 12:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You know, Bastable, you are right. There are racists everywhere. People know that! But now that Lott has attention on him, some people are trying to take away the attention from that. And I find it nasty. No one said that he was the only person in Congress to say something gross. It's just he's in the news lately. And to make it a Republican/Democrat issue is even more pathetic. Grief!

Karuuna

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 12:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, Conejo - now the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition. He also made an anti-semitic remark that was widely reported for which he apologized profusely.

He also ran for the Democratic nomination for President in 1984 and in '88 (he finished second in '88, I think).

Bastable

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 12:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Marysafan, Fluff-- RIGHT ON! I can't wait for a viable third party. Americans will finally want to vote again.

Partisan arguments only deflect attention. The pot may call the kettle black, but that pot's still gonna be black.

Now that I think of it, that's an unfortunate metaphor given this situation.

Zachsmom

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 12:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP

Quote:

Now that I think of it, that's an unfortunate metaphor given this situation.




ROTFLMBO!!! Cute Bastable..very very cute :)

Maris

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 01:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think everyone is being way to hard on Mr. Lott. He had the courage to go on that TV network and confess that he would give that nice man Martin Luther King a holiday. How many other politicians do you know that would stick their necks out like that and say they would give a man a holiday. It is lucky for him he wont be put in that position since it already is a holiday. I admire his sentiment anyway. I bet he would even have stood up for Rosa Parks too.

Fluff

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 01:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What!

He didn't VOTE for Martin Luther King's holiday!

It's too late now!

He's' lying so much now, it ain't even funny.

Maris

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 01:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOTT'S RECORD
• Twice voted against extending the Voting Rights Act
• Voted against holiday memorializing Martin Luther King Jr.
• Voted against strengthening Fair Housing Act
• Supported historically black colleges
• Helped pass Africa Free Trade bill
• Worked to ensure minorities received jobs at a new Nissan plant in Mississippi
• Introduced resolution condemning the targeting of black churches by arsonists

Source: Congressional Quarterly, Sen. Trent Lott's office

Goddessatlaw

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 01:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, he did stand up for Rosa Parks - he helped get her the Congressional Medal of Honor.