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Alib

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 05:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree that it should be in Ottawa, because that's where I am!! Offer still holds if you need a babysitter, Admin & Lisa.

Rissa

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 06:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
We have the bags in Calgary too, but they are hard to find.. think Co-op is the only place to buy them. We don't have True-filter though!!!! The one thing I miss about Ontario... even skim milk tastes too creamy compared to true-filter. RFLOL

Loppes

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 06:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So is it safe to assume we will not meet in Moose Jaw?
Admin, so who really father your son?
Lon

Calgaryperson

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've been to Ottawa like 6 or 7 times in my life. I have relatives there, a lot actually. Didn't go this year. Will for sure next year.

Llkoolaid

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 06:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Make the party in the east, no one knows how to party like easterners do, there isn't much else to do. For those in western Canada who think Eastern Canada is Ontario and Quebec, please stop forgetting about us in the real Eastern Canada. The Atlantic Provinces are where you will find the friendliest people in the world.

Llkoolaid

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 06:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I better clarify what I mean by forgetting about us. It is not anyone here but so often on the news they will refer to the East Coast and it usually turns out they are talking about Ontario ( which is a great place). They seem to forget about our 4 little provinces.

Mango

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
In Vancouver we even have milk in bottles. It actually tastes better- something about not transmitting a frequency from the florescent lighting as with bags. Yummy!

Admin

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 07:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I remember my trip to Australia when I was a child of about 11 years old. They had milk in glass bottles, I think they cost 10 cents. My brother and I drank a few a day...better than pop!

I remember Coke in bottles too, not too long ago. It tasted better. Things taste better in glass, it's inert. I saw a show on plastics once and how chemicals leak out, especially when it's heated. They allow a certain amount of chemical leakage (they meaning the FDA or whatever) before they will raise a flag. That's just not right.

I never microwave food in plastic, only in glass. I have pyrex dishes for storing leftovers...not tupperware thank you very much!

Calgaryperson

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 04:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No wonder my Diet Pepsi tasted horrible today when I was at the park today. It should be in glass bottles.

Islandgirl

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 05:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
All our pop is in glass bottles here. We actually have a law about it.

Djgirl5235

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 01:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Admin - I was out your way last weekend - my dad lives just south of Ottawa near Smith's Falls. You're right about Ottawa having great Canada Day parties, however, Toronto has some kick-butt ones as well!!!

I just LOVE this thread!!!

PS - Melgal - just east of T.O.? Where might that be??? I'm a T.O. import, but grew up just east of T.O.

Wapland

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 11:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Obviously some Canadians missed my previous post about being in the HEART of God's country in the Ottawa Valley....this is the only place to have a party! (Neil can bring the plaque with him) And who cares about the bagged milk because the Westerners will be drinking Corona and the Easterners will be drinking Keith's.

Shoofly

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 09:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Snee, I heard my name mentioned.

Bags of milk? Yup, we have 'em; but, do we have to bring milk? I have grapes that will soon be ripe on the vine; does anyone here makes wine?

Party? Anywhere, but, if it gets to Ottawa, do it now, before all those politician types get back.

Yes, the 'Maritimers' are very friendly; much like the 'Prairie' folk. My bias, cause I am a prairie gal, gone 'coastal', now.

We love to peek over the waters and mountains, now and again, but, the climate keeps pulling us back to the islands.

Here's an idea since every region is so unique and has its own beauty, we could enjoy it all by making it a 'travelling party', much like those suppers where one household serves the appetizers and the last one serves the desserts.

Shoofly

Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 10:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Or not! lol

Bookworm

Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 06:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
From an Iowan, that knows little and wants to know more about Canada...

Milk in Bags??????? How does that work??? Someone please explain and post a picture. I am not too young to not know about pop in glass bottles, but we have always had milk in cartons or jugs in Iowa in my lifetime.

Rissa

Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 07:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Bookworm. Milk bags are awesome because they keep longer than cartons. It's just what it sounds like, a rectangular bag filled with milk. You buy a specific plastic holder for it.. pop the bag in, then slit the corner to pour. My family goes through a MINIMUM of 6 2L cartons a week and with the bags, I could buy a dozen of them and lay them down in one of the fridge's drawers.

Will look for a photo, maybe someone else will beat me to it. LOL Do you use the jugs? I used to, just because I didn't have to buy so many, but I found by the fourth or fifth pour, you get *grunge* around the spout, congealed milk.. YUK!! LOL

Bookworm

Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 08:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Rissa! Sounds very handy.

Yes we buy gallon jugs. (and go through them fast with a one-year-old) I have grown up on jugs and never really thought about the 'grunge', but yes you are right. Grandma always insisted on buying cartons at her house because she insisted she could taste the plastic in the jugs. I thought she was crazy, but before we had the baby we would buy cartons since we didn't go through as much milk, and grandma is right, you can taste the plastic if you think about it.

I would like to see a photo of the milk bags if anyone can post one.

Rissa

Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 08:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
http://www.adl.ca/milk.html, under the photo.. click on a larger picture for ADL products and you will see a bag of milk in the plastic jug/container. They sell them 3 bags to a package = 4L in total. They even sell a little snipper tool so you don't have to hunt for scissors.

heehee, I really need to find something better to do with my evenings, while hunting for the above photo, I found this: http://www.standonguard.com/toocanadian.html I am proud (?) to say that I understood virtually every one. RFLOL YES!!!! I did recognize those guys. And, knowing who Casey and Finnegan are make me feel old, not just Canadian. #78 has me singing now, and I CAN'T STOP! And they even mention the 'snipper thing'. {G} I am giggling now, how humiliating. LOL

Nutsy

Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 12:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ohhh! Pop tastes so wonderful in glass bottles! They are scarce around my city, but when I find them, I buy them!

We have a local hamburger joint that used to serve the single size glass bottle with your order. *sigh*

Goddessatlaw

Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 12:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
SQUIRT in a bottle. Second to none. They don't bottle it around here anymore. Breaks my heart.

Nutsy

Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 12:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Squirt?

Whit4you

Friday, September 06, 2002 - 05:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What's always amazed me is the way I see it (this could somehow be incorrect) but the way I see it is there is like almost NO news about Canada ever. I mean I think I've heard of one or two serial killers up there and that's honestly just about it for Canadain news that I hear from a country I lived 12 miles from growing up and less then 200 miles from my entire life.

It's sorta like Canada is just THERE.

Watching the OZ BB fascinated me because they talked about the US all the time like daily!! Talked about our news, our songs, our politics and on and on and on. Did they mention Canada once? No. It's just like here just miles from Canada yet Canada hardly ever ever gets mentioned. Yet it's a big country with alot of people!

So I really don't get it - honestly. It's about the same age as the US too. I can think of a few Canadain singers..few canadain actors and such but - why are there not more? Or why don't they call themselves Canadian all the time like the Latino's do or the British do etc??

Also - don't they have the same sorta crime type stoff that we do? I mean for example the OJ thing was headline news all over the world for ages...the Jon Bennett thing and so on.. Don't they have that sort of thing going on up there as well? The school shootings? I dunno it's just always - since I was a kid..seemed weird to me that all the stuff we learned in school and stuff we read on the news etc was always about countries on the other side of world yet very little was ever said about Canada.

Wonder sometimes how Canadains feel about that? Wonder if there is alot more news here about Canada and I just don't notice it??? WOnder why there are dozens of US based magazines - yet only one that I know of that is Canada based?

Any answers?

Neko

Friday, September 06, 2002 - 06:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
We just are....
We get over-shadowed by America.

Somedays, I wonder if you could ask an American what they think about Canada, and they'd be like "What the heck is Canada?"

We have good actors (Jim Carrey,Michael J. Fox) and good musicians (Our Lady Peace, Celine Dion) but it seems, for them to get anywhere in there business, they have to start in America and drop their nationality, so to speak.

No offense to Americans, but I feel that we Canadians know more about your country than you know about ours.

Maybe it's because most of our culture is American. What I mean is, most TV stations on our TV's, are American, so we hear and see alot more about what's going on down there...

I'm done now.
*Steps off her little box*

Shoofly

Friday, September 06, 2002 - 08:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi Whit4you,

I have always enjoyed your thoughtful posts.

When I read this one, I thought it would be easy to respond. Come to find that it is not so easy to put a finger on it.

Neko is right, we just are. Without wanting you to take it the unintended way, it says more about the lack of any pressing need to show interest in Canada, from your side of the border.

We are here, tied in deeply with your country in cross border trading. HUGE!

We have our squabbles on some products and, as your country does, we try to get the best for our citizens.

What is different though is the population. Yes we have a great land mass, but only about 30 some million spread out across it, concentrating in a very few areas. Many live closer to your northern border.

We have access to your media, your tv networks and radio stations; internet is global. We recognize the wealth of good and not so good, just like any American family.

We are younger as a country and most of our 'familial' ties were with Britain and the Commonwealth countries.

It is our cross border trade though, that brings our two nations together in the most significant way. But probably known mostly by Canadians.

We study more about your country than you do about ours; I think I am safe in that statement. But, like anywhere, some folks know more and some know so little as to be irritating/ comical/ annoying. You pick the word.

Commerce is your soul; that is why our best artists, musicians, hockey players, and so on, find themselves under contract with Americans.

We do not like them, or you, any less. We still enjoy their music and games, recognizing the commerce and business savvy and spirit of your people.

We cheer harder when they come from Canada, for them individually, and by extension, for the team....but only when there is not a Canadian team left to cheer for.

When 9/11 happened, I can tell you, I was one of you. I felt it all and shared your grief and was so proud of your President when he gave that speech with Lisa Beamer in the audience.

That is the ever present plus of being neighborly neighbors.

Do we want you to know more about us? Sure, but we recognize that those who need to, will find a way to know more about us.

Until then, we are here, chugging along much like all of you are.

I do know that thru American shows like BB and this fan club, I have learned much more about 'individual' Americans and have developed special bonds because of that tie. That can only be good for us, as two nations sharing such a long border in these times.

Whit4you

Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 03:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well ok - I did this with the OZ's and it was amazing to learn how similiar they were with us (I still can not believe it lol)

So maybe you can answer some questions for me?

(by you I mean Canada/Canadians in the q's)

Do you have a national inquirer type thing? Is it like ours? Do you have alot of national figures / actors and so on and they are talked about like ours are?

Is your crime rate comparable? I mean like do you have school shootings like we do here and so on - if so why don't we hear about them? If not why do you think that is?

I remember hearing about a serial killer up there - so I know you've had at least one.. but what seems strange to me is like.. I assume you know alot about say McVey but do you know about some of our other serial killers? (We have alot of them here) like the Green River Killer... etc.

Writing the post here a few days ago has made me want to gather up 6th or 7th grade history books from Canada (and a few other places) to learn what you all learn about history. LIke I wonder - when you were growing up did you study the American Indian situation? It was big thing of study here.. but don't recall really much of ANYTHING we learned about Canada in school except as it related to the US history. Did you learn much about American history in school? We learned quite a bit about Mexican history - that I do remember - because we had alot of wars with Mexico. But um I don't remember reading about any wars with Canada.

I have alot of other questions about Canada as well - but I'll just start with those. :)

Why do you think it is that we hear so little about Canadian news .. really? I personally think (I know this may be silly!!!) but I guess I'm just being honest.. that maybe you don't have as much news??? Like did you have an OJ thing? A Jon Benette thing? A OKC type thing? I mean those are all bad things but that is what news mostly focus's on so I'm just sorta under the impression that maybe Canada doesnt have as much bad news going on? Or am I totally off base here???

And if you don't have as much bad news going on - why!! That's what I'd like to know!

I think it's so strange sometimes how we know more about say OZ or British then we do about our next door neighbors!

I also still don't understand why OZ watches all our tv shows and reruns and so on. From the sounds of it Canada is the same way? Is there a problem with being able to create your own series like Friends...60 minutes.. and on and on? I mean watching the OZ's talk almost all the shows they discussed were created in Hollywood or NYC in America. Yet OZ Is a huge place wondering why.

Hope you understand these questions. I mean honestly and I know this might not be the best thign to say but I have never felt Canada or Canadians were any different then us - so I don't feel like I'm talking to a forgiener..but um I think that might bother me if I did live elsewhere. I guess we are raised with a real sense of identity here in the US. That we ARE Americans, you know? Like when I was in Jamaica - we people were all treated like Americans - strange!! We were in Jamaica! But it was like there were only two types of people there Americans or Jamaicans - that is how THEY treated us not how we felt... but I have to wonder if I were a canadian..how that might feel?

The OZ's said (and I don't judge them for this that's just how they feel) that they think of Americans as arrogant - self-centered and so on. Thats how we come across, but I wish that were not the case - I was born and raised here didn't ask for that or to be a part of somethign that has somehow seemingly taken over various parts of the global culture (like the tv...movies...well basically the entertainment segment) as well as the computer/electronics and so forth. For example any mention on the OZ BB about computers and so on - was Microsoft (Redmond WA USA) and Oracle and so forth.

Well I'm rambling but I have always wondered about these things. I've visited B.C. alot - and they treat me like I'm different when I'm there. LOL. I say eh? I don't know if you Canadians notice it but Americans seem to notice it. THey ask me if I'm Canadian... I'm like nope... it's just something I say... perhaps because of my frequent visits to B.C. as a kid, it's always been the way I say uh..eh? LOL (can't even thing of a different way to SAY eh?)

Anyone have a suggestion as to where I might find a 6th 7th grade old history book?

Whitney