Archive through October 21, 2002
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Archive through October 21, 2002
Twinkie | Monday, October 21, 2002 - 10:22 am     Well that wasn't very much of a news conference. But the fact that the bullets match up to all 12 sniper shootings seems relevant. I hope that something more substantial comes out soon. |
Awareinva | Monday, October 21, 2002 - 10:25 am     Well, it sounds sort of enouraging. I've gotta go get ready to get the kids from school. Let's all keep our prayers going that these are the ones they have been looking for. |
Hermione69 | Monday, October 21, 2002 - 10:56 am     Aware, thanks so much for your news updates. None of these live news reports today have been closed-captioned and I didn't know what was going on. My lip-reading abilities will only carry me so far. This is very close to home for me. The school where I work is off of Parham Road, about 5 minutes south from the gas station where they took the suspect(s) into custody and my brother works on Broad Street, about 5 minutes west of the gas station. Parham Road has an I-64 ramp very close to this Exxon, and I-64 and I-95 intersect not long after you get on I-64 east. I have been wondering if it was just a matter of time before the sniper made an interstate change and traveled farther east or west. I hope these are the guys because, obviously, this is absolutely terrifying. Even simple chores, like needing to get cat litter, become huge. |
Draheid | Monday, October 21, 2002 - 11:02 am     Hermione69: CNN is carrying the recaps of the information with CC. Hope that helps! |
Hermione69 | Monday, October 21, 2002 - 11:06 am     Draheid, thank you, but I don't get CNN anymore! I downgraded my cable to save money and only get the major networks. :-( |
Draheid | Monday, October 21, 2002 - 11:08 am     Hermione69: The recap on CNN.com looks pretty thorough as of 1:54PM ET. Here's a direct link. |
Fluff | Monday, October 21, 2002 - 11:24 am     Oh goodness. So much information. I just hope they have the right people this time. |
Hermione69 | Monday, October 21, 2002 - 11:49 am     Draheid, Thank you. I appreciate your help. I think because I am local and this is happening in my community, our local news stations are covering things nonstop and what they are talking about may not necessarily be currently reflected on CNN.com. I did read the story and thank you for posting the link. Right now, for example, there is a live press conference outside of MCV, where the latest victim is and apparently they are discussing his status. I think when this is over, all the local news stations are going to get a very irate letter from me about their disregard for the deaf community in the area. We have a relatively large deaf population, many of whom are probably feeling the same frustration that I am!! BLEAH. I recognize that live captioning is difficult, but I do feel like we are worth the trouble! I don't know about the suspects they have in custody. Of course I pray very hard that these are the men responsible, but they must have totally set themselves up and why would they do that? What is the point of that? Unless they wanted to be caught as Kaili theorized. The other thing bothering me is the profile. My sister and I talked about this. She is a psychologist and the profile for these shootings is totally "white male." Not "hispanic," not "middle eastern" and definitely not "terrorist." Of course, profiles can be wrong, but they usually are not which is why they are so valuable. For example, look at all the school shootings we have had in the last decade. Those are almost always committed by white adolescent males. This will definitely be one for the books if a non-white male commited these crimes. Of course, I think this is going to be one for the books anyway, and I pray it is over SOON. |
Mack | Monday, October 21, 2002 - 12:03 pm     Local news here (Northern Virginia) is now pulling back from the arrests in Richmond, VA. They're now saying it most probably is not related to the sniper attacks. The only thing they're confirming now is that the Saturday victim was shot with a bullet that matches the ones used in the earlier sniper shootings. Darn! I so wanted them to catch this guy! Played pump and duck at the gas station this morning....very unnerving! |
Hillbilly | Monday, October 21, 2002 - 12:04 pm     Hermione...I agree with you. The sniper has been pretty smart so far so why would he suddenly make such a stupid mistake. I don't think money is the motivation or he would have made a ransom demand earlier. I think these two are just some very stupid copycat people. I stick with my earlier opinion...this is one of the militia groups. They are very anti-government and respect no person. Remember, Timothy McVeigh had no respect for race, his victims were caucasion, af. american, etc., and he had no regard for age, he killed children. These militia groups are dangerous. I think this sniper has support to be able to hide from the authorities. |
Max | Monday, October 21, 2002 - 12:44 pm     CNN's breaking news: "Authorities have found no evidence connecting two men who were taken into custody today near Richmond, Virginia, to the sniper attacks, sources told CNN. Details soon" |
Hillbilly | Monday, October 21, 2002 - 12:49 pm     Wow...FOX just read a letter that the 'Son of Sam' killer sent them a few hours ago regarding the sniper attacks. He seems to think its a 'Timothy McVeigh' anti government person/persons too. |
Sisalou | Monday, October 21, 2002 - 01:14 pm     I was so hoping they caught the bas@#@# today. Hillbilly - that scenario seems to be the most likely. I can't believe that Fox got that letter from "Son of Sam' killer. I think his name is David Berkowitz. The thing that always bugged me with Timothy McVeigh is that you know there were more people involved in the OKC bombing. I just wish they had been caught also. |
Silksmoke | Monday, October 21, 2002 - 01:39 pm     This is absolutely chilling. It's like this homicidal maniac is holding us all hostage, and is reveling in all of the publicity attention and fear. |
Twiggyish | Monday, October 21, 2002 - 01:39 pm     I thought so, too, Hillbilly. |
Hillbilly | Monday, October 21, 2002 - 01:45 pm     Sisalou...I read the book written by McVeighs attorney. It's called "Others Unknown" by Stephen Jones. He also thought there was an Al Queda/Bin Laden (page 140-142) link even back in 1996. I have to say...I am less than impressed with this Chief Moose. |
Fluff | Monday, October 21, 2002 - 02:10 pm     I don't think that Chief Moose is doing a bad job. The reason being that he is probably tired out of his mind, and he shouldn't even have to keep doing briefings every five minutes. In fact, I think that the briefs are mostly unecessary, but they help keep people updated who haven't been able to tune in. Besides, these shootings ocurred in other places, and the chief of their counties should be responsible for the briefings concerning those shootings, in my opinion. I don't like how he snapped up at the media that time, though. This is frustrating for EVERYBODY in this area, especially since these people seem to know exactly what they're doing. |
Max | Monday, October 21, 2002 - 02:11 pm     "I have to say...I am less than impressed with this Chief Moose." Why, Hillbilly? I'm just curious. |
Car54 | Monday, October 21, 2002 - 02:30 pm     Isn't David Berkowitz judged legally insane? And now he is a Fox news source? I think Chief Moose is doing an amazing job under what must be incredibly stressful circumstances. He is trying to work with numerous other police forces, the FBI, the military, and a jillion media people in his place. He is trying his best to keep things under control and I think he is doing as well as anyone else would under those circumstances. |
Jo_5329 | Monday, October 21, 2002 - 02:41 pm     Quote:I think Chief Moose is doing an amazing job under what must be incredibly stressful circumstances. He is trying to work with numerous other police forces, the FBI, the military, and a jillion media people in his place. He is trying his best to keep things under control and I think he is doing as well as anyone else would under those circumstances.
I agree with you Car54 .. the man has a tough job and is holding up well I think. Jo |
Sbw | Monday, October 21, 2002 - 03:04 pm     Car, he was not judged to be insane. He communicated his thoughts in writing to one of the Fox reporters. |
Car54 | Monday, October 21, 2002 - 03:12 pm     Sorry, I will give him more credence next time. Wonder what breed of dog gave him this information. Sounds like they don't have any real information to convey. |
Hillbilly | Monday, October 21, 2002 - 03:13 pm     Max...his ability to deal with the press. First, he becomes adversarial with them early on. Granted, I can understand his frustration with them releasing the 'tarot card' item but someone INSIDE his department leaked the item in the first place. (1) It might be wise to use a PR spokesperson instead of personally taking news briefings, (2) he blamed the press for something that in my opinion was his problem...he wasn't controlling his officers and the release of info from inside. Then, today, he calls a press conference to get a message out to the sniper. Fine. Then says that he will take a few questions ...but won't answer anything asked. Why offer to take questions you have no intention of answering in the first place. Again, this puts him in an adversarial role with the press who were clearly annoyed. |
Maris | Monday, October 21, 2002 - 03:20 pm     Lol Car, well the last dog was Sam, wonder if they have any dogs at the prison giving him information. Maybe he is getting his information from Al Capone. |
Car54 | Monday, October 21, 2002 - 03:21 pm     Maybe now he thinks he is Son of Osama? |
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