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Rig

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 04:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think a thread has been started on this yet, but I feel so strongly about it that I'll start one. I just read the article on Yahoo's news site, and I'm shaking with anger! And to top it off, some of those commenting on the Yahoo message board think that what happened to that poor little girl was just ordinary "discipline" that was good for her. Well, as far as I'm concerned, that "mother" is a CRIMINAL and a MONSTER. And when I consider that the same kind of thing happens who knows how many times in this country every day, I just shake my head and wonder what can possibly be done.

Faerygdds

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 04:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OMG.. i saw the tape... that woman was beating the holy HELL (can I say that on here?) out of her 4 year old!!! Now. I know I don't have kids, but it doesn't take a genius to know that PUNCHING your 4 yr old is absolutly WRONG!!! I have seent he tape 3 times... the first time I couldn't watch it and I just started crying! Embarassing because I was with my parents... the second time I could watch and I didn't cry, but I did get really mad... same with the 3rd. It's not normal discpline!!!

This woman looked to see if anyone was watching her... turned back around and starts wailing (open palm) on her child... gets her in the car seat and then starts PUNCHING HER IN THE FACE (closed fisted)!!! Sorry... when it comes to children... any pacsifism genes I have go right out the window... I want this woman caught and then I want her thrown in jail... and then I hope the inmates show her how it feels to be helpless and beaten!

SO DISGUSTING!

Hillbilly

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 04:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought this happened in Texas.

Wargod

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 04:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I only saw this briefly as I was walking away from the TV, but what I saw wasn't ordinary discipline! I'm not a big believer in spankings....but this wasn't a spanking, swatting or normal punishment. She was beating the snot out of that kid plain and simple. I just don't understand how people could do this to their kids.

Faery, was she not caught?

Rissa

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 04:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No Wargod, last I read they are still looking for her. I haven't seen the tape, just read a few articles but I know I have a 6 year old and if I punched her just once in the face... it would break bones. Her family seems to be obstructing the police search and I sure hope they aren't doing it knowing that the little girl needs medical attention. As far as I am concerned, if the family has seen the tapes and doesn't aid police.. then they need to do jail time too. I agree with all of you that child-abusers get ZERO slack or 2nd chances.

Oops, just hit refresh at CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/Midwest/09/20/video.child.beating/index.html

She's apparently going to turn herself in. Probably wants to wait until the marks on the kids face have healed a bit more. {sigh}

Whoami

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 05:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She needs to be put away and kept there. She is arrested once, misses the court date, is a described as a "nomad." Find her, arrest her, put her in jail and KEEP her there until you can try her. She has proven to be a flight risk.

The vengeful person in me says, put her with the other inmates. They don't take lightly to child abusers in prison. She'll find out all too quickly just what it's like to be defensless and having a fist pounding out new shapes in your face.


The compassionate person in me says, I fear for her in prison. Nobody deserves to be treated that way. I have to try and make myself be this kind of person, cause the other one is sounding off a lot more right now.

Faerygdds

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 05:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
When it comes to people who victimize children... my comapssionate side just cowers in the corner... Frnkly... I can't wait until she goes to prison. The sad thing is.. what appens to the little girl? Will she go into foster care and get the counseling she WILL need after something like this?

She was IN Indiana, but has ties to Texas... her DL is a mailbox place in Fort Worth.

Zachsmom

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 05:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
O M G


I am shaking so very hard right now..

I may come back and comment later..I am speechless..utterly speechless..

Twiggyish

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 05:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It's horrible!! I am outraged!

Cjr

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 05:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The Mother was punching the little girl with her fist in the face and head. I hope they catch her quickly. I am so upset about this. And I can't figure out why Security couldn't have run out there if they were watching this.

Was her sister getting in the other side of the car or did she have her own car? I am so angry after seeing this tape several times. I saw the woman's sister walking with her and it looked like she walked to the other side of the car and didn't do a thing to stop it.

Grooch

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 06:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am so glad I didn't see the tape.

Whit4you

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 06:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
NO I can't imagine someone even slugging their child in the face - but if you watch the tapes the gal is using the leverage of the truck to strenghten her blows! She's definately a monster - needs to be locked up for attempted murder in my opinion.

Car54

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 06:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The authorities found her car, but not her. They were on the Today show this morning, and they have the woman's sister, but they said "the family is not cooperating" with the hunt.

Grooch

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 06:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I heard somewhere that she was turning herself in.

And the sister was arrested for watching it and not reporting it.

Faerygdds

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 06:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here's the video...
Click for video story

note - must have real player

Weinermr

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 07:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I saw the tape on the news. It was horrifying to watch.

Cjr

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 07:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm glad to see the sister was arrested for watching it. Since she watched and didn't try to stop it she probably is the same way with her own child. I couldn't watch a stranger do that let alone my own sister to my precious nephews and niece. OOOHHH this just keeps making me angrier.

Hippyt

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 07:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was going to start a thread on this earlier,but have been running all day. My husband called me in to watch that tape this morning,I was Freaking Out with anger!!!!Then my husband says her family was hiding her!!! What the hell is that?? I hate to be harsh,but I'd like to beat the living hell out of that woman myself,see if she enjoys it.(Okay,I can't even kill spiders,but really!) She needs some good old fashioned prison time. I just can't understand doing that to a child. I get mad at my kids,but I have never even considered slapping in the face,or anything like that. Totally disgusting.
That poor baby.

Suitsmefine

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 08:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Let's all just pray that this baby is found soon and gotten the hell away from this woman....I couldn't watch after seeing it the first time , I was so totally pissed that there was another adult there and she didn't stop it, and beat the devil out of the mom.....I cannot even begin to think of an appropriate punishment for either of them that does not include death penalty....I think as a nation we have ignored the crimes inflicted upon our children for far too long. I say beat the hell out of the abusers and give them a cruel and inhumane sentence!!!

Hippyt

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 08:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here's an update.. The woman has hired a lawyer from Houston,where I live. Rocket Rosen,he's the scum of the high paid lawyers around here. Ugh,he makes me sick. I think the family are a bunch of grifters. The brilliant Rocket Rosen says,"She was angry,she made a bad decision,and it was caught on 'Candid Camera.'

Suitsmefine

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 09:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well he can stick that candid camera up his patootie and join the real world, I do not think any one who sees that tape will think she just made a bad decision, she looked pretty well practiced at her beating technique to me, I hope her and her lawyer get the same prison cell and beat the crap out of each other!!!!

Whoami

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 09:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If I was Peter Funt, I'd be sueing the hell out of that Lawyer for defemation, for using the Candid Camera name.

Grrrr............<deep breath>

Whoami

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OK, I've since had the opportunity to see an extended version of that video. That compassionate side of me that was struggling so hard to be a good person earlier? It's lost resoundingly. A good healthy dose of prison life is too good for this <>

And that lawyer. "Candid Camera?" Ooohhh! My heart rate is in the unhealthy range right now....
The lawyer, the family, and anyone else just sitting on their frigging hands needs to have the holy snot beat out of them, and then have it done a few times more.

And what about the people monitoring the video? And certainly there were other people in that parking lot.

Bohawkins

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 12:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If there are no marks, abrasions or bruises, then it is possible that she was not really hitting the child at all, but hitting the seat headrest.

Is spanking a child illegal in Indiana? What are the limitations?

Whoami

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 12:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bo, did you see the video?

I saw a different angle of it today. The woman was not only clearly beating the child in the face, she grabbed her by the ponytails and severly yanked her head back and forth (hard enough, that I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the girl lost chunks of hair from it).

The child was climbing into the carseat, and the woman proceeded to pound on her, and pound her right out of the carseat. Then she pounded on her while she was on the floor, along with yanking her ponytails. Then, she got her into the carseat and locked her in, and pounded on her some more, and yanked on her ponytails some more.

Maybe, since this happened a week ago, they won't find any marks on the child. As far as "spanking" goes, it may or may not be legal in Indiana. But this was no spanking. It was an outright assault. You don't spank a child by yanking their head back and forth by the ponytails (I hope the child doesn't end up with a spinal injury), or punching them in the face and body.