Archive through June 21, 2002
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Archive through June 21, 2002
Grooch | Thursday, June 06, 2002 - 02:03 pm     Yea! I said they would lose because the only reason they won last timeis because they were the host. It was a great game to watch this morning. Tomorrow is the one I really want to watch (England vs Argentina), but I don't think there is any way I can go in late to work tomorrow. |
Flint | Thursday, June 06, 2002 - 10:23 pm     England Argentina should be a classic match. I will be out at the White Market watching it along with a lot of others. I'll be cheering England on. Monday is going to be crazy here. Schools and businesses are closing early so people can watch the Korea - U.S.A. match. If they win, which I hope they do, it is going to be one big wild party here. If they lose, it might not be pretty. After Portugal's loss to the U.S. the media has been trying to prepare for both outcomes, and has been instgating U.S. bashing. The Korean English papers have already dredged up the Ohno (or however his name is spelled) affair again. I feel sorry for the Portugese player who scored the own goal. If it hasn't been for him it could have simply been a tie instead of a loss. At least he isn't Columbian. With France doing so sucky pundits are starting to tout Italy as the shoe-in to win the Cup. |
Flint | Thursday, June 06, 2002 - 10:33 pm     Let's see how the odds have changed since the games started Odds FIFA ranking Was ---- ------------ ----- Italy 7/2 6 5/1 Brazil 7/2 2 11/2 Argentina 4/1 2 9/2 France 6/1 1 3/1 Spain 13/2 8 13/2 Portugal 14/1 5 14/1 Germany 14/1 11 16/1 England 16/1 12 11/1 Cameroon 33/1 17 25/1 Russia 50/1 27 66/1 Korea Republic 80/1 40 United States 300/1 13 |
Pottedplant | Friday, June 07, 2002 - 09:18 am     YAY England wins over Argentina with a penalty from Beckham! |
Grooch | Friday, June 07, 2002 - 09:30 am     BOOOOOOOO!  |
Zeyna | Friday, June 07, 2002 - 04:32 pm     How can France still have good odds of winning? They have yet to score a goal |
Grooch | Friday, June 07, 2002 - 05:08 pm     Bhwahhahahahahah!!!!! High Five, Zenya!  |
Flint | Friday, June 07, 2002 - 05:40 pm     Rule Brittania! I saw the penalty kick, it was sweet. Odds makers are a strange sort Zeyna. Maybe they are French? For France to advance they HAVE to defeat Denmark, AND Uruguay HAS to lose to Senegal. The odds of France advancing don't look good. The way they have been playing they don't stand much of a chance against Denmark, which has the 2nd best scorer in the games, Jon Dahl Tomasson. Uruguay losing to Senegal could happen, but I don't think it will. Ah well, they can always have whine and cheese.  |
Pottedplant | Saturday, June 08, 2002 - 10:22 am     "whine & cheese" I like it Those odds are whacky, they need an update. |
Grooch | Saturday, June 08, 2002 - 03:17 pm     Flint, winning on a penalty shot doesn't really say much. (Or winning in overtime on free kicks, either.) Neither one should be allowed. |
Zeyna | Saturday, June 08, 2002 - 05:43 pm     LOL Flint Grooch, I agree aboout the free kicks in overtime, but you must admit they are exciting to watch. Felt a little bad for Italy last night as two of their goals got called back - I'm not sure the decision was right, but I wanted Croatia to win. BTW, these soccer players dive so much it's painful to watch. They need a little lesson from our hockey guys who have no problems getting stitches on the bench while waiting to go back on the ice. |
Micknrc | Tuesday, June 11, 2002 - 07:52 am     WTG you beautiful buggers! Ireland beats S.A. 3-0 while Germany tops Cameroon 2-0 and so Ireland advances! (Keane who?)
Now if only the USA can pull it out! |
Flint | Tuesday, June 11, 2002 - 01:37 pm     France is gone. Most of the westerners here are shocked. Some, moi, are kind of happy. All Korea has to do in order to advance is tie or beat Portugal. Seeing how they dominated the game against the U.S. they should have no problem beating the Portugese. The U.S. Korea game was frustrating to watch. Korea outshot and outplayed the U.S. and if it weren't for that lucky break away they would have won the game. Hopefully they play as well against Portugal and win. Or at least tie. On a sidenote, the Ohno pantomine the Korean players did after the goal was funny to watch. I guess they should just be happy that the Football ref isn't an Aussie. Friday is going to be interesting. Korea vs Portugal and US vs Poland at the same time. People here are already getting psyched up for it. Daehan Minguk! |
Pottedplant | Wednesday, June 12, 2002 - 10:12 am     so England & Sweden advance from the "group of death" .....makes me happy. |
Grooch | Friday, June 14, 2002 - 08:43 am     The USA Advances! Yea!!! Despite loss to Poland, U.S. advances to second round By RONALD BLUM Associated Press Posted June 14 2002, 11:25 AM EDT DAEJEON, South Korea -- In this most crazy World Cup, the United States found a goofy way to advance: with a loss. The Americans gave up two goals in the first five minutes, were trailing Poland by three goals with just 22 minutes left, and were about to get knocked out of the World Cup in the first round for the second straight time. Then came the shocking news from Incheon: South Korea had scored against Portugal. Suddenly, the United States was back in. And back in they did. Needing just a tie to advance, the United States flopped to Poland 3-1 Friday night. But the Americans still finished second in their group because South Korea held on for a 1-0 victory over the fifth-ranked Portuguese. Thank you, South Korea. ``We owe a lot to Korea today,'' said U.S. goalkeeper Brad Friedel, who saved a penalty kick for the second straight game. Poland, already eliminated with losses in its first two games, had taken a 3-0 lead in the 66th minute. Two minutes later, the crowd of 26,482 in Daejeon World Cup Stadium roared when Park Ji-sung scored at Incheon. Out on the field, most of the Americans figured out what happened. ``I heard the crowd go nuts. I assumed a goal for South Korea,'' Landon Donovan said. ``I didn't want to hope for it and have it not happen.'' But it did, and the Americans will play their first second-round match since 1994, on Monday against regional rival Mexico. ``It's crazy, huh?'' Brian McBride said. ``It's going to be a battle.'' France and Argentina, two of the top world powers, may be gone from this upset-filled tournament, but the United States is among the final 16. ``A lot of teams got through with a bit of luck. Italy, one of the best teams in the world, got through with luck, so we'll take it. We're happy,'' U.S. captain Claudio Reyna said. At first the American bench didn't know what to make of the crowd roar. McBride, who already had come out of the game, turned around with a wild-eyed look as if to say, ``Could this be true?'' When the South Korea game ended, the crowd roared again. Players weren't sure whether the Red Devils had scored again or whether South Korea had won. ``There was a guy two rows deep who jumped up,'' McBride said. ``I said, `Oh my God, it must be true!' '' Some of the U.S. players held their hands to their heads in disbelief. Their game went on for another 3 minutes, 35 seconds, as both sides kicked the ball back and forth, knowing it was meaningless. ``Days like this, it's better to be lucky than good,'' Friedel said. |
Flint | Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 01:53 pm     Korea beat Italy 2-1 in extra time!!!!! Next, Korea-Spain on Saturday. What a long night. It hasn't ended yet. |
Flint | Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 10:44 pm     Before the game started my friends and I were talking about possible outcomes. They paid a lot of attention to what the press and pundits had to say. Of course, those folks lauded the Italian team, and made it sound like it would be a walk in the park to defeat Korea. One comment that stuck in my mind was how the media would go on and on about Italy being a 3 time World Cup Champion. As I told my friends, they won the Cup in the PAST. This team is not one of those teams. For gods sake, the last tiume they won the Cup was in 1982. 20 years ago! Considering Italy's less than stellar performance in the Group round I found it incredulous that the pundits would ASSUME Italy would win, and put so much emphasis on their past cup wins. They ignored the way the team performed during this cup, well, but not super. As well as the injuries and suspensions they faced; their best midfielder was lost to a suspension due to a red card, and their best defender was out with an injury. When Italy did have the lead they tried to just hold it. The "experts" refer to it as the catatonic defence (the Italian spelling eludes me). Basically, you bore the opponent to death. Think of hockeys neutral zone trap. Italy used this well, but it can't hold forever. Whenever a team sits back and tries to hold a bare lead it is usually a recipe for disaster. Korea played well, but they could have been better too. They REALLY need to work on those penalty kicks. So many opportunities have been lost because they are unable to sink them. I told my friends that the difference would come down to 2 things. Italy's mindset is that the win is a given. They deserve it, it will happen. Korea's mindset was that they wanted it. As Don Cherry says in hockey, the team that wants it more usually gets it. This is what happened IMNSHO. Korea never gave up. Not even in the dieing minutes of the game. They kept plugging away, and it paid off. I have seen a lot of teams just give up in the final minutes even when there was only a 1 goal lead. Korea has the right mindset to win. They tied the game and then won it because they stuck to their game. I will have to think about Korea vs Spain. I will be cheering for Korea, but Spain is a tough team. Then again, so were France, Argentina, Portugal, and Italy. They are all GONE. Eliminated. Out of the top 10 in FIFA's ranking 7 qualified for the World Cup, and only two are left. Spain had a pretty easy time of it in their group too. It wasn't as tough as many of the others. Korea will win by 1 goal on Saturday. I hope I am right.  |
Flint | Thursday, June 20, 2002 - 07:06 pm     Everyone is preparing for tomorrows game. Most businesses will be closing for the day, Koreans have a 6 day work and school week normally. Our school is actually closing, which was a huge surprise. (Odds are we will pay for it in some way.) That means we will be able to see the entire game. |
Gail | Friday, June 21, 2002 - 04:26 am     For anyone awake right now - the game between the US and Germany is just getting ready to start. They just played the national anthems of both countrys. It is on ESPN. |
Gail | Friday, June 21, 2002 - 04:29 am     I bet the bars in Korea are filling up right now. Have a soju for me Flint! A friend of mine is going to Korea today (work related) and I gave him a big shopping list including a couple bottles of soju. |
Gail | Friday, June 21, 2002 - 06:21 am     The US lost to Germany but played a good game. Germany 1 USA 0 |
Llkoolaid | Friday, June 21, 2002 - 06:51 am     I have to say as an unbiased viewer that the US were robbed of a goal and had a few bad calls against them. |
Micknrc | Friday, June 21, 2002 - 10:52 am     WE WERE ROBBED!, LLkool, there's no nice way to say it. HELLO? Handball to block a goal? but you know what? WE SHOULD BE PROUD. WE OUTPLAYED AND OUTRAN THEM. THEY TOOK A PAGE OUT OF THE BRAZILIAN HANDBOOK (and I like the brazilians) AND TOOK SO MANY DIVES THEY SHOULD BE IN THE SUMMER OLYMPICS, NOT THE WORLD CUP. oops, my caplock was on.... I'm not unbiased, but pride myself on seeing the truth of a game regardless, and the USA were robbed. No doubt in my mind. They played their hearts out and should be received home as heroes. They've surpassed past USA World Cup accomplishments by 72 YEARS!!!!!! |
Llkoolaid | Friday, June 21, 2002 - 05:30 pm     Not only was it a handball but it was clearly over the line, if you see a replay look where the player was positioned, he was over the line and his hand was behind him when he touched the ball. The free kicks that Germany got just outside the box were insane. I love soccer but this was not a good game to watch. |
Llkoolaid | Friday, June 21, 2002 - 05:32 pm     I thought I was watching figure skating the ref was so foul. |
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