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Whoami

Wednesday, June 05, 2002 - 12:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I guess the old "dumb question" thread archived out. I liked it cause once in a while you could go to it for a variety of things.

So, my new dumb question is about the "Seven Wonders of the World." I watched a show on the History Channel the other night. In the TV Guide, it said, "of the Seven Ancient Wonders of the World, only the Pyramids at Giza remain." That got me wondering, cause I can remember hearing about the SWOTW in school, and being familiar with some of the things listed. If all the other items no longer remained, then I wouldn't have been familiar with the things I learned. So, Mom and I were disussing as we watched the show, and figured there must be Seven Wonders of the World in various categories, such as Ancient, Modern and Natural.

I thought things like the Panama Canal, the Geysers as Yellowstone, the Grand Canyon, and Stonehenge were considered part of the Seven Wonders. Does anyone know what they are, and what categories there are (assuming there are categories).

Another thought came to mind as we watched the show. It listed the Hanging Gardens and the Colossus as other Ancient Wonders. If all these things are gone, how do they know they existed? Especially since one of the people interviewed in the show said we (humans) were not very good at recording information in history.

And yet one more thought came to us while watching the show. When they uncovered the tombs and artifacts of the various Pharohs, how did they know that Pharoh's name? Did they make it up? Or did they go by the ancient writings, and how do they know they deciphered the writings correctly?

Aren't I just full of questions?

Cinnamongirl

Wednesday, June 05, 2002 - 12:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here's a site that seems to have Ancient, Modern, Natural & Forgotten Wonders listed

http://ce.eng.usf.edu/pharos/wonders/

Whoami

Monday, June 24, 2002 - 02:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
And yet another dumb question (am I the only one who thinks up dumb questions?).

BTW, thanks Cinnamongirl for that link. It has proven quite interesting (I could have sworn I posted a thank you!).

Anyway, my newest dumb question is more a hypothetical "what would you do in this situation?" Yes, the situation is real (from a long time ago acutally).

So, you are a single mother (a father's viewpoint is welcome too here). You have four daughters. A baby, a 10 year old, a 13 year old and a 14 year old. You are struggling to make ends meet, and can only afford to rent a small house with just two bedrooms total-no Master bedroom or anything like that (not really big bedrooms either). The rest of the house consists of a small kitchen, a small living room, and a bathroom. Who do you put in what bedroom, and why? (this almost sounds like it should be in the Riddles thread! But, it's not a riddle. Just a "what would you do."

I'll explain later if anyone really needs to know.

Whit4you

Monday, June 24, 2002 - 05:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd put the 10 and 13 year old in the smaller bedroom - the 14 year old and the baby in the bigger bedroom and sleep on the couch myself.

Why? The 14 year old would be gone alot more - after school activities - sleep overs - and so on. The 13 and 14 year olds had a few years to get close before the others came to the family - so this would give the 13 and 10 year old a chance to bond more. And so on.

But personally unless you live in a small town - it'd probably b e BEST to keep shopping you can usually find a house the size you describe with one extra usable space for the same price (a dining room / extra large closet / etc etc. All you need is one extra usuable area and you'd have it made. IF the area is close enough to one of the bedrooms - you could put the baby in THAT room , you and the 10 year old share a room (10 year olds need less privacy / away from mom time then do 13/14 yr olds) and the 13/14 year old together. IF the small extra usuable space is not close to one of the bedrooms then - I'd put the 14 yr old in that space / the 10/13 yr olds together and me and baby share the master bedroom.

I would put myself on the low income housing list asap of course lol - single mom with 4 kids is definately what that program is designed for :)

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On your first 'dumb question' - hopefully that link answered your Q. I have a feeling they were talking about 'man-made wonders" - cause the natural wonders well...still have to be there at least some of them! :)

Whoami

Monday, June 24, 2002 - 10:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Whit.

The mom opted to not take the family to a low income housing area. The social worker wanted to put the family out in the "projects." Where crime, gangs and whatnot are prominent. She adamently said NO. The house, though small, was a goldmind find for her, compared to some of the places the family had lived. The area is great, and the landlord has given her quite a break in the rent.

The real situation had Mom and baby in one room. The 13/14 year olds sharing the other room, and the 10 year old slept on the couch. I was the 10 year old. I had a dresser in Mom's room, but my bed was the couch. Back then, that's just the way it was cause it had to be. But we were just talking about things the other night. And I look at it now from an adult's perspcetive.

As an adult, and watching my sister with her three kids, I realize, sis would NEVER just have one kid not have a room, or a space in a room. It got me to wondering why I was (don't know of a better way to say it) cast aside. I can't ask Mom. She's way too sensitive, and would take it as an accusation of being a terrible mother. On the contrary, she was/is a wonderful mother. The way she worked so hard to keep a roof over our heads, and food in our bellies. It's amazing. None of our dads aknowledged our existance after she divorced them. We were very poor (oh, the stories I could tell about how poor we were!). We may not have had a lot of space or things, but we had a lot of love.

I guess I just kinda get in a blue mood sometimes. There are so many incidents that I can recall that make me feel like I am the least important and most expendable person in the family. I know, stop feeling sorry for yourself and get over it. But, sometimes I just think too hard.

My two older sisters are very close. They talk about everything. Once in a while, if I'm around the conversation, they'll actually be surprised with the "insightful" things I can come up with. But, they still always would rather it just be the two of them on outings. That's just been the way it's always been, all the way back to the days when I'd stay home alone, cause I was "too young" to walk down to the corner 7-11 store with them (you know how it is, someone is too old and cool, and can't have that dumb little siblng tagging along!).

Thankfully, my little sister and I are also real close. She is such a special sis, really! What's very odd is, our next older sis is often jealous of our relationship. Several times she's made catty remarks about how close we are. Yet, she sees nothing wrong with telling me she callled older sis (long distance) the other day, cause she was feeling blue and needed a "sister fix." Hello, what am I?

Well, I guess I should have put this in the I Feel Blue thread. If I keep remembering things, I'm just gonna get all depressed. Instead, I can remember how wonderful a Mom I have, how oldest sis has transformed into a very generous person (in August, we will take our second annual family get together trip to Las Vegas, courtesy of older sis). And how special my youngest sis is. I know it's terrible, but I may have to think a bit on my other sis, to remember the special things about her! .

Thanks for listening.

Sia

Monday, June 24, 2002 - 11:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
((((((((Who)))))))) Please feel better. Hey, I'm impressed that four sisters in a family get along together at all! I do empathize with you over feeling that someone in the family might have a favorite--and knowing it wasn't/isn't ME. I don't think those feelings ever go away entirely, but you can try to channel your energy elsewhere and not let it bother you. The sister who seems to like to "dig" you with catty remarks may just be that type of person. My husband describes such a person as "someone who thrives on conflict." There's at least one in every family.

My husband slept on the couch all his growing-up years, and there were only three children in a three-bedroom house. Two parents shared the largest bedroom, younger and older sisters each had the other bedrooms, one room was small and the other pretty big. I have no idea why the girls didn't share a room to let him have the tiny bedroom. (Their Mom is "different.")

Bob2112

Monday, June 24, 2002 - 11:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
cry Lots of hugs! {{{{{{{Whoami}}}}}}}

Whoami you are such a very special lady! Oh, the grief I put you through in the Riddles thread! You are obviously a wonderful daughter to your mother (she even gets her own computer time :)). I feel so bad that you are feeling down, :( but you are right to focus on the positives that came out of it.

I'm not very good at these type of posts, but you story made me all misty eyed here at work. (...am I crying? No! I just got something in my eye...)

Rememeber, when you're feeling down, we'll always have the "Riddle me this..." thread where you were scored a perfect 10.0 (after review). You're the best!

SpongeBob2112 SadPants

Maris

Monday, June 24, 2002 - 12:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I dont often post at the boards but I read your story Whoami and I was touched. Your mother may have had her own logic for that set up and could not provide that special place for her 10 year old. Maybe because the 13/14 year olds were at that stage of puberty and needed to have the privacy that young girls need at that age. A baby wakes up and needs attention in the night. I think if you have a wonderful mother today it means she did something right back then and did the best she could.

Just a thought.

Julieboo

Monday, June 24, 2002 - 12:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yep, Who, you are the best! You get a hug from me too (and I am stingy with my hugs!)

There are so many families out there who are so torn apart (mom not talking to daughter, dad not speaking to brother, etc) and you are very lucky to have sisters and a mom like yours. And seriously-4 sisters who all get along is somewhat rare.

Urgrace

Monday, June 24, 2002 - 03:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whoami, we must be kindred spirits. You described all of my sisters! We are all nearly the same age differences, too.

Whit4you

Monday, June 24, 2002 - 04:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ya thats why I was suggesting putting the 10 and 13 year old in one room cause most likely the 13/14 year old were already pretty bonded from being the only two for a few years. If I were you though I wouldnt concider you being on the couch being cast aside - Mom may have had reasons for the arrangement she had maybe the 13 year old bullied you - or would tell you things you were too young to know about yet - I could think of many rasons why Mom might have chosen the arrangement she did. Based on NOT knowing the circumstances though - I do think my arrangement is probably one of the best. The 3rd sister in my family was 'cast aside' - shipped off in he night at age 4 - didnt see her again till she was 18 She's in her 30s now and still resents that me and my other sister got to spend more time together (I wasn't shipped off till 8 1/2) even though most of us are outsiders she will always feel like more of an outsider - I sorta dont enjoy being around her because I feel guilty when I am. At least your mom didnt do what mine did and put all 4 of you in one small room while she had the BIG room to herself LOL. Anyhow - it's tough sometimes isnt it to not feel resentment - but it if this is any encouragement - I reached a turning point in my mid 30's on all of that 'childhood' stuff.

Take care :)