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Wargod

Thursday, November 15, 2001 - 04:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Doing very well today. Dilli, way to go! Hasn't been too bad today with the cravings. Once in awhile I get one that makes me just grit my teeth and keep on going, but it passes quickly! Just been having a good day, enjoying NOT smoking, and the way food and drinks taste now.

Dilligaf

Friday, November 16, 2001 - 06:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Day 2 for me and it's been pretty easy. I'm chewing on my straw, but haven't really felt the urge to smoke. I just pray it continues to be this easy.....

Thanks for everyone's support. It really does help knowing there are others out there going through this with me!! I love you guys....

Fruitbat

Friday, November 16, 2001 - 07:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Good for you Dilli, and I am glad you are finding it easy. A word of warning. It could get harder down the line. You are very excited and proud of yourself now. I say this, not to discourage you, but to alert you a possible snag. I dipped into a spell where it was extremely difficult, more than the first days and started again. I was totally unprepared for that possibility.

It is different for everyone and this may not happen to you. Just wanted to share.

I will stop again on the 10th of Dec and join you all again.

Llkoolaid

Friday, November 16, 2001 - 09:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
We are all waiting for you Fruitbat.

Dilli, I am so glad that you are doing so well, you sound just like I did at the first, but I also have to warn you that there will be rough days, but you CAN get through them, a positive attitude goes a long way.

Quitting smoking is more a battle with your own mind than anything else. Keep telling yourself that you will never smoke again, that you are proud of yourself, that you are going to win the battle.

Has anyone told you to drink lots of water yet, do it, it works or drink fruit juice, cut back on the coffee. Take walks, whenever a craving hits do something totally differant than what you are doing at that moment. You have 2 days behind you and are almost halfway through the first week which is the hardest. You can do it.

I am having another great day, I have lots of friends that smoke and it doesn't bother me to be around them now.

Dahli

Friday, November 16, 2001 - 02:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow, this is excellent LL! You are now able to be a cheerleader and help support others to drop the 'evil rubber crutch'... I love this board!
Your friends must be in awe too.

Have a great weekend all!

Llkoolaid

Friday, November 16, 2001 - 08:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Dahli, I really do feel that I am ready to take that step and cross over to the cheerleader side. I think I might just sit on the fence for a little while . I can't believe how well things are going for me, the last week has been a breeze. I hope everyone else is doing great.
The cheerleaders here are mostly all working hard in the weight thread so I must run over and support them.

Dahli

Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 01:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You're very welcome, it's pretty obvious how 'ready' you were and how powerful positive thinking can be. Well done.

See you in the weight thread :-)

Juju2bigdog

Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 05:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Go Dilligaf, go Franny, go Llkoolaid, go Wargod! Get ready to go again Fruitbat.

<puts mask, fins and snorkel back on, disappears into the surf>

Llkoolaid

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 06:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yesterday was the first day that I haven't checked in since I quit smoking. It was my birthday and I was away all day. I am still having an easy time, just thought I would come in and check on Dilli, and the rest of the gang. Hope all is going great and talk to you guys later.

Fruitbat

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 06:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am inspired by the ease you have experienced Kool. thanks and happy birthday. :)

Willi

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 07:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Very nice to read about your progress everyone.
Way to Go!

Happy Birthday Llkoolaid. :)

Wink

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 08:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You gave yourself a great birthday present Ll. Congrats and continued good luck. Happy

Wargod

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 04:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Woke up yesterday with a cold, last thing I'm thinking of is a cigarette. LOL.

Llkoolaid, happy birthday, and great job!!!!!!

How is everyone else doing this weekend?

Misslibra

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 06:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It don't smell as smokey in here... in fact it smelling darn good in here now. :)

Llkoolaid HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!

Llkoolaid

Monday, November 19, 2001 - 03:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hope you are feeling better today Wargod. Fruitbat . are you going to get the zyban before your birthday to help you out. My cousin took it for a few weeks before she quit and she says she doesn't get any cravings.

Where is Franny?

How is it going Dilli?

I am having another great day, I don't think about cigerettes at all.

Juju2bigdog

Monday, November 19, 2001 - 04:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, Fruitbat, do it any way you can. If medications, even including nicotine, help, by all means use them. The main thing is to get the monkey off your back (or the evil rubber crutch, if you prefer) and then work out the other stuff. Now, since you are going on the road again, and you fell off while on the road, gotta figure out how to avoid that pitfall again.

Congratulations Wargod and Llkoolaid for seeming to be over the hump.

Franny? You out there? Go Franny!

Grooch

Monday, November 19, 2001 - 05:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ducktape over her husband's mouth?

<<Now, since you are going on the road again, and you fell off while on the road, gotta figure out how to avoid that pitfall again. >>

Moondance

Monday, November 19, 2001 - 05:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
HaPpY HaPpY HaPpY BiRtHdAy Llkool!!!!!!!!!

Gail

Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 04:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
How's it going nonsmokers?? Isn't tomorrow the one month milestone?? Congratulations!! :)

Llkoolaid

Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 06:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for all the birthday greetings everyone, I had another great day. Gail, it is hard to believe that a month has past, I am waiting until the first of December and then heading over to the lose weight room but I will stay in here if I need help or just to cheer new comers on. Cheerleaders are the best and I could not have quit without you.

Wargod

Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 06:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Doing ok, Gail. Thank you for all your support and encouragement. I'm with Llkoolaid, cheerleaders have made this much easier, and its nice knowing so many people were cheering us on in succedding!

Juju2bigdog

Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 05:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
<wanders in looking for Franny, sniffs around, moseys out>

Yay, non-smokers! Congratulations on making it to the one month milestone.

Lancecrossfire

Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 09:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
One month!!! How excellent is this!! Franny, Kool, and War, this is a great milestone. Dilli, keep up the great efforts; and Bat, we will see you back soon.

Wonderful job! You should be very

Grooch

Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 12:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Smokers Told to Fetter Their Fumes
Montgomery Plans $750 Fine if Tobacco Odors Bother Neighbors

By Jo Becker
Washington Post Staff Writer

The Montgomery County Council yesterday approved one of the most restrictive anti-smoking measures in the nation, setting stiff fines for people who smoke in their homes if it offends their neighbors.

Under the county's new indoor air quality standards, tobacco smoke would be treated in the same manner as other potentially harmful pollutants, such as asbestos, radon, molds or pesticides. If the smoke wafts into a neighbor's home -- whether through a door, a vent or an open window -- that neighbor could complain to the county's Department of Environmental Protection.

Smokers, and in some cases landlords or condominium associations that fail to properly ventilate buildings, would face fines of up to $750 per violation if they failed to take steps to mitigate the problem.

County Executive Douglas M. Duncan (D) promised yesterday to sign the measure into law, which supporters said will protect people from health dangers.

"This does not say that you cannot smoke in your house," said council member Isiah Leggett (D-At Large). "What it does say is that your smoke cannot cross property lines."

But tobacco companies are threatening a legal challenge, the American Civil Liberties Union has expressed concern about the law's impact on property rights and opponents on the council are charging that it unfairly targets the poor.

In cities and counties across the country, lawmakers over the past decade have banned smoking in bars, restaurants, workplaces and even outdoor public areas such as parks and sports arenas.

More recently, the anti-smoking movement has taken on the cause of apartment dwellers. Smoke-free apartment registries have popped up in cities across the country, and some tenants have successfully sued under general nuisance laws that prohibit loud noise and other activities that constitute an unreasonable threat to the quiet enjoyment of property.

But there are few, if any, ordinances that directly address the issue of smoke spreading from one residence to another.

"This codifies what we believe has generally been the law, but we're only just now getting around to enforcing," said John Banzhaf, executive director of Action on Smoking and Health and a public law professor at George Washington University. "This is a major step forward because it will allow people to make a simple complaint to a designated agency rather than having to hire a lawyer and go to court."

That's if the tobacco companies don't go to court to have the law overturned, an option two of the companies said they will study.

"I've never heard of legislation like this anywhere in the country," said Steve Watson, vice president of external affairs for Lorillard Tobacco Co.

"We think it looks like an extreme and unnecessary measure that would be burdensome for property owners," said Lisa Eddington, spokeswoman for R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Co. "We will be evaluating it."

The legislation, which represents the county's first attempt to regulate indoor air quality, was initially designed to give environmental regulators an enforcement tool to deal with complaints involving things like mold, excessive dust, paint and carpet glue odors or gases such as carbon monoxide. Children in day care, the thinking went, should not be forcibly exposed to fumes from an auto body shop next door.

Duncan excepted tobacco smoke from the new regulations, which define indoor pollutants as agents that are "likely to pose a health hazard to humans, plants or animals or unreasonably interfere with the use or enjoyment of residential or non-residential property."

But a council committee chose to include tobacco smoke, a decision that six of the nine council members supported yesterday after a heated debate. The measure was backed by Steven A. Silverman (D-At Large), Blair G. Ewing (D-At Large), Howard A. Denis (R-Potomac-Bethesda), Derick Berlage (D-Silver Spring) and Philip Andrews (D-Rockville) and Leggett. Nancy Dacek (R-Upcounty) and Michael L. Subin (D-At Large) voted no, and Marilyn Praisner (D-Eastern County) voted "present."

Secondhand tobacco smoke is a carcinogen that should be treated like any other air pollutant, a majority of the council decided. But the legislation doesn't specify the level at which secondhand smoke would pose a health hazard and leaves open the possibility that odors alone could trigger a legitimate complaint.

"My sympathies are with the kid next door who has asthma who has to put up with a pollutant crossing the border," said Andrews.

But Subin argued that the legislation was class-biased.

"If you live in a house on a two-acre lot, you are exempt from the moral police, but not if you are unfortunate enough to live in a small town home or an apartment," Subin said. "If this isn't Big Brother putting their nose under your tent, I don't know what is. What else are y'all going to start regulating in my home?"

The bill will take effect 90 days after Duncan signs it. Duncan said he does not believe that adding tobacco to a list of indoor air pollutants will have much impact. "We get little or no complaints about smoking, so I don't think what the council changed is going to have much effect," he said.

The county will focus first on educating violators. Only after a series of warnings will fines be levied, said Duncan's chief regulator, Jim Caldwell. Caldwell said a problem often can be solved by tinkering with a vent, opening a window or plugging a crack in the wall.

Still, Arthur Spitzer, legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union's national capital area branch, said his organization was concerned enough about the legislation to write council members and warn them to tread carefully.

"They shouldn't be able to prevent a person from smoking in their home unless they can show that the amount of smoke is harmful to the health of others," he said. "If someone can just say, 'Yuck, I don't like the smell of cigarettes,' that's no different than someone saying, 'Yuck, I don't like the smell of your cooking because you use too much garlic.' "


© 2001 The Washington Post Company

Llkoolaid

Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 06:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow, that is some article Grooch, glad I don't smoke.

I had a really strong urge for a cigarette today and it was funny because at first I didn't know what to do , it passed and it felt weird. Otherwise the day was great and the urge wasn't even that bad because it just proved that I could handle it.