Archive through January 22, 2002

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Soeur

Sunday, January 20, 2002 - 09:39 pm Click here to edit this post
Anybody watch the awards? I was surprised that there were not more nominations for Lord of the Rings and also at the movie that won (now I have to go see that one, lol). Since it is traditionally held that the Golden Globes are a lead in to the Oscars and are pretty good at prediction the winners in March I wonder if that will be the case this year.

Dick Clark was good in the pre-show but a lot of people were shuffled off to make space for other celebs in a pretty impatient way.

The clothes were a bit of a disappointment. What was with Sela Ward's outfit?

Mike Myers was funny. His little awards banter bit was very cute.

I really liked Jennifer Garner's acceptance speech where she wondered what the producer saw in her, "I know I was really good in Dude Where's My Car and all but.."

There was a relaxed low key quality to the event; very good natured and relaxed.

My favorite dress was the one worn by the woman speaking on behalf of the Foreign Press Association. Very elegant.

Juju2bigdog

Monday, January 21, 2002 - 08:07 am Click here to edit this post
Dang, dang dang, I missed the whole thing. I didn't even know it was on.

Thanks for starting the thread, Soeur, but you failed to mention which pic won best movie. Now I will have to go look it up somewhere.

Pcakes2

Monday, January 21, 2002 - 08:11 am Click here to edit this post
And the winner's were:
Movie, Drama: ``A Beautiful Mind.''
Actress, Drama: Sissy Spacek, ``In the Bedroom.''
Actor, Drama: Russell Crowe, ``A Beautiful Mind.''

Movie, Musical or Comedy: ``Moulin Rouge.''
Actress, Musical or Comedy: Nicole Kidman, ``Moulin Rouge.''
Actor, Musical or Comedy: Gene Hackman, ``The Royal Tenenbaums.''

Supporting Actress: Jennifer Connelly, ``A Beautiful Mind.''
Supporting Actor: Jim Broadbent, ``Iris.''
Director: Robert Altman, ``Gosford Park.''

Screenplay: Akiva Goldsman, ``A Beautiful Mind.''

Original Score: Craig Armstrong, ``Moulin Rouge.''

Original Song: ``Until ... ,'' Sting, from ``Kate & Leopold.''

Foreign Language: ``No Man's Land,'' Bosnia

Television=

Drama Series: ``Six Feet Under,'' HBO.

Actress, Drama: Jennifer Garner, ``Alias.''

Actor, Drama: Kiefer Sutherland, ``24.''

Musical or Comedy Series: ``Sex and the City (news - Y! TV),'' HBO.

Actress, Musical or Comedy Series: Sarah Jessica Parker, ``Sex and the City.''

Actor, Musical or Comedy Series: Charlie Sheen, ``Spin City (news - Y! TV).''

Miniseries or Movie Made for Television: ``Band of Brothers,'' HBO.

Actress, Miniseries or Movie Made for Television: Judy Davis, ``Life with Judy Garland: Me and My Shadows.''

Actor, Miniseries or Movie Made for Television: James Franco, ``James Dean.''

Supporting Actress, Series, Miniseries or Movie Made for Television: Rachel Griffiths, ``Six Feet Under.''

Supporting Actor, Series, Miniseries or Movie Made for Television: Stanley Tucci, ``Conspiracy.''

Crazydog

Monday, January 21, 2002 - 08:12 am Click here to edit this post
I enjoy watching the Golden Globes but only because it covers both movies and TV, leaving little room for the snooze awards such as best documentary live action short you find at the Oscars. While the Globes are typically a good predicter of the Oscar winners, that is not always the case. The Golden Globes seem to be more of a popularity contest, and are hipper and edgier than the stuffy Academy voters.

Here's a few examples of notable Globe/Oscar misses: Brad Pitt winning supporting actor for 12 Monkeys and losing the Oscar to (?), Sharon Stone in a huge upset win for Casino over Oscar winner Susan Sarandon for Dead Man Walking, fluff-of-the-month (and since fallen off the face of the earth) Kate Hudson (Oscar winner Marcia Gay Harden wasn't even nominated for the Globe), Nicole Kidman winning comedic actress for To Die For but not even getting an Oscar nod, Jim Carrey - beloved by the Globes but anathema to Oscar, and last year everyone's darling Tom Hanks in Cast Away over Russell Crowe in Gladiator.

Having said that, this year's winners in the movies were fairly easy to predict. I would have loved to have seen Halle Berry win, although Sissy Spacek's win was probably deserved. Halle's chances now for the Oscar are much diminished, and it will probably come down to Nicole v. Sissy. I think and hope Nicole will win the Oscar.

I thought Jennifer Connelly did a good job in a Beautiful Mind, but she was definitely carried by the movie and the material. Personally I thought her part was a very stoic, wooden role that could have been filled by any young actress. If you saw the AFI awards, the clip they chose for her was the one in the restaurant where he asks her to marry him and was not particularly impressive. I would have loved to have seen Maggie Smith win for Gosford Park. Her performance as the superannuated aunt who seems to know she can get away with her snappy witty caustic comments because of her age was absolutely magnificent. There were so many characters in that movie that I had trouble sorting them apart (especially the dark haired younger upstairs women), but Maggie Smith was a gem. I laughed every time she was on screen.

Lord of the Rings was a great movie, but you knew its chances had to be hurt by the fact it had relatively few nominations, including zero acting nods. A Beautiful Mind was a great movie as well, but I thought Lord of the Rings was more entertaining. If LOTR had any chance to win major awards, it would have won the Globe. At the Oscars it will only win technical awards. Academy voters will vote for the more traditional Oscar Best Picture, and that this year is A Beautiful Mind.

Personally I am tired of Dick Clark. He needs to just go away. His award show commentary is terribly banal and reminds me of a bad sports reporter ("how do you feel?"). And how many times during commercials did he have to tell us "here's where all the wheeling and dealing is done there's a lot of people here and it's the party of the year".

Aussiedeb

Monday, January 21, 2002 - 08:12 am Click here to edit this post
juju...i have it on tape....i had to work till 10p so i told hubby he has to tape it for me...he is used to doing that for me since im always working survivor nite lol...
Best Pic- Drama...was A Beautiful Mind....
I was happy to see so many Aussies there...which is great since a lot of the movies are now being made in Sydney...eg. Moulin Rouge, all 3 matrix movies, Star Wars Episode 2..just to name a few...

Pcakes2

Monday, January 21, 2002 - 08:19 am Click here to edit this post
I agree about Sela Wards dress...didn't Joan Rivers say something about KMart? I also did not like Andie MacDowell's red and white hawaiian patterned sequin thing. Cameron Diaz...ugh! Jennifer Aniston...all I can say is that's what my hair looks like when its the middle of the night, and I'm still in chat. And don't even get me started on Sarah Jessica Parker....does she not have a mirror in her house? I absolutley loved the dress that Halle Berry was wearing! Most of the men (as usual) looked sharp.

Sorry if I offended anyone...it's only my

Jenhavins

Monday, January 21, 2002 - 10:10 am Click here to edit this post
Sela Ward's dress was a hoot. Joan Rivers was interviewing her and said here is Sela Ward and the are you representing the company Kmart here tonight? I can't believe that she would stand in front of the mirror at home and think that looked good. Also, did anyone else hear Kevin Spacey's remark to Melissa Rivers about pretentious people and then made a remark about like the person on the red carpet, and the camera's switched to P Diddy or whatever he goes by these days.

Halle was Beautiful and I also thought the girl from Will and Grace looked wonderful as well.

Moondance

Monday, January 21, 2002 - 12:47 pm Click here to edit this post
Hey Sis ... it wasn't Jennifer Garner's acceptance speech that included "I know I was really good in Dude Where's My Car and all but.." it was the star of Alias... and yes it was cute! Jennifer was in a Beautiful mind and I just don't ever seeing her doing a Dude move LOL.

Halle again looked so beautiful!

Ketchuplover

Monday, January 21, 2002 - 12:57 pm Click here to edit this post
Jennifer Connelly is in Bootyfull mind :) Moondance drop and give me 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 :)

Goatgirl

Monday, January 21, 2002 - 01:00 pm Click here to edit this post
Moon, you are thinking of Jennifer Connolly, Jennifer Garner is the girl in Alias. LOL picturing Jennifer Connolly in Dude, but I remember her doing at least one cheesy teen movie like 10 years ago called Opportunity Knocks - she is a bored rich girl shoplifter who spends the night in a Target store with the night clean up boy and some burglars. I thought it was funny at the time but I was a teenager myself.

Goatgirl

Monday, January 21, 2002 - 01:05 pm Click here to edit this post
Ooops, Ketchup I will have to drop and give you at least 50 too! I said Opportunity Knocks but that was the Dana Carvey con man movie. Now for the life of me I can't remember the name of the other movie??

Moondance

Monday, January 21, 2002 - 01:06 pm Click here to edit this post
I got them confused... not the first time!!!!

Jennifer dyslexia!!!

Moondance

Monday, January 21, 2002 - 01:11 pm Click here to edit this post
Sorry Sis!

Crazydog

Monday, January 21, 2002 - 01:22 pm Click here to edit this post
Goatgirl, you were close, I believe it was called "Career Opportunities". Speaking of career opportunities, what ever became of Jennifer Connelly until A Beautiful Mind? I remember she was in the Rocketeer and that Career movie, then she seemingly disappeared for about 10 years. This movie was a good move for her.

Oregonfire

Monday, January 21, 2002 - 01:32 pm Click here to edit this post
Jennifer Connelly was in "Inventing the Abbots," with Liv Tylor and Joaquin Phoenix about five years ago. She was also in that Labyrinth movie with David Bowie about a million years ago. There was another movie I saw her in, some weird futuristic one, can't recall the name...Dark City.

More recently she was in Requiem for a Dream, an indie favorite from last year in which she plays a heroin addict. (I hear it is a very good, albeit disturbing, film). Anyway, I think she's just about the most beautiful actress on the planet, and am very envious of her coloring.

Goatgirl

Monday, January 21, 2002 - 02:15 pm Click here to edit this post
I missed Sela Ward's dress the first time around but just saw a clip of her on the news - yikes! She resurrected someone's bad prom gown from 1986.

Jenhavins

Monday, January 21, 2002 - 02:38 pm Click here to edit this post
Thanks Oregon for reminding me who Jennifer was. We watch Labyrinth at least once a year. It was a very creative movie for the time that it was made. The boys love it. I knew I had seen it before, but wasn't sure where. She is quite pretty.

Babyruth

Monday, January 21, 2002 - 02:41 pm Click here to edit this post
Requiem For A Dream was a very good movie, and Ellen Burstyn's performance was among the best I have ever seen in a movie, from anyone.

I don't remember which part was Jennifer's but all the acting in the movie was good.

Jbean

Monday, January 21, 2002 - 04:52 pm Click here to edit this post
was anyone else disappointed in the golden globe winners? i don't have cable tv, so a lot of the tv show winners i didn't even know the shows! i was hoping to see ally mcbeal win some stuff, also will and grace, but they didn't win anything. also i thought sarah jessica parker looked bad. it looked like she couldn't keep her dress up, and what was in her hair? jmho

Angelnikki

Monday, January 21, 2002 - 06:25 pm Click here to edit this post
Ok, first of all let me talk about Jessica P LOL
ok, if you are over 35 and gravity is not kind to you anymore, I think they call them BRAS!!!!!!!!!
yeah, she needed one big time.:)
she should not have been wearing that. JMHO

and I was a little upset that noone from Will and Grace didnt win and hardly ever do. I love that show. I love Sex and the City also but Im getting a little sick of them winning everything. Did anyone see Brad Pitt?? Or was that a bum off the street who hadnt showered in about a week??

ok, thats all i have to say!!!

Jbean

Monday, January 21, 2002 - 07:08 pm Click here to edit this post
lol angel, brad was a little wild and wooly looking, but he is still a little hottie! lucky jen, huh? maybe i am being catty, but a lot of these women just looked like they didn't even bother to fix their hair! i did think ewan mcgregor looked good, though. sorry, hope my cattiness didn't offend anyone!

Twiggyish

Tuesday, January 22, 2002 - 07:13 am Click here to edit this post
My favorite winner was Sissy Spacek. I have always liked her. She doesn't need glitz and glitter.

Jenhavins

Tuesday, January 22, 2002 - 08:43 am Click here to edit this post
Me too Twiggy. She seems real...always has. People accept her for who she is. A great actress. She has paid her dues. She isn't put up on a pedestal, however, she is regarded as a fine actress and she still keeps getting roles.

I say this because it seems to me that foreign actresses who age are held in high esteem (Judy Dench, Maggie Smith), however, few get the same respect here. Very few that are in their late 40s or 50s or 60s for that fact, get consistent roles and actually have a full plate in Hollywood (or wherever they film). JMHO

Crazydog

Tuesday, January 22, 2002 - 11:27 am Click here to edit this post
Well, it depends on what you mean by esteem and respect. I think there are a lot of older American actresses who are respected, e.g. Meryl Streep, Susan Sarandon, Cher, Angelica Huston. (Personally I haven't heard about Sissy Spacek in years and everyone is talking about this year as her "comeback role".) But there's a difference between respect and success if you measure an actor or actress's career in terms of dollars. Unfortunately, there's not a lot of big blockbuster roles for older women, of any nationality. Movies where older women are the central characters tend to be artsy and don't seem to be (or care to be) huge money makers. And I love Judi Dench, but maybe I'm just ignorant (or young), but before Mrs. Brown, James Bond and Shakespeare in Love, I had never heard of her. Now it seems she's a perennial Oscar favorite.

But I also think that there's not a whole lot of big blockbuster roles for older men. There are very few older male actors who are consistent box office hits... the only ones I can think of off the top of my head are Robert DeNiro, Al Pacino, maybe Gene Hackman. When was the last time Harrison Ford carried a huge hit? His career has been defined by Han Solo and Indiana Jones, all made earlier in his career. As he has aged, for every Air Force One or Patriot Games we see him consistently miscast in romantic comedies like Sabrina and Random Hearts. No wonder articles about the Golden Globes described him as uncomfortable while his clips showed.

Unfortunately, Hollywood is fascinated by youth and beauty, because it is youth and beauty that brings in audiences. Money is a motivating factor, and for every older actor or actress success vehicle, there's a V.I. Warshawski to match it.

Moondance

Tuesday, January 22, 2002 - 11:37 am Click here to edit this post
<No wonder articles about the Golden Globes described him as uncomfortable while his clips showed<

I know quite a few successful Actors who are uncomfortable when watching themselves in clips/film... lots of actors in general are like this.