The New Sitcoms- What's good? What's not?

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Oregonfire

Monday, November 05, 2001 - 04:53 pm Click here to edit this post
No doubt, MissS. The "Friends" annoy me, and have certainly never been "must-see" TV for me. Why settle for their tired old schtick when "Gilmore Girls" is on the WB at the same time? Plus I read that the "Friends" producers won't even have female *guest stars* that are in double digit dress sizes on the show; the only one was Kathleen Turner, who was playing a *man.*

Angelnikki

Monday, November 05, 2001 - 04:55 pm Click here to edit this post
ok i just have one comment for MsS's comment on the show CSI. that is a great show. who cares that its not exactly accurate? the show is for entertainment and I know very many people who love CSI. the show is very interesting and inventive and creative.
oh and sorry i have another comment, about friends. cinnamongirl is correct, stickgirl knows who the father is, its the others who didnt know. and by the way, if friends sucks so bad, why is it #1?? its doing better than survivor 3, and why had it been on for sooooooo long??
i do however agree with your comments on buffy, angel, charmed and all the others :)

Mssilhouette

Tuesday, November 06, 2001 - 02:14 pm Click here to edit this post
Yeah I know CSI is popular but I'll favor decent writing and acting over that claptrap. That's just how I feel.
'Creative and inventive'? Ummm that's stretching things a bit. Not exactly accurate and that's an understatement. I wasn't looking for an exact duplicate of the CSI environment but damn don't ya think its kinda stretching things beyond the point of breaking if they're making shows about people who's job it is is to run samples through a machine.

Ya know on any cop show when they say "See what the lab boys say"...Guess who they're talking about. Basically they brought back Quincy and hyped it up a bit. I'm just not a fan. No biggie.


Friends doth suckth, plain and simple.

Just because its being watch doesn't mean it isn't crap. The demographic for the show is probably 18-25. After you mature a bit this show about 6 vapid, vain friends who live in a cultrally diverse city yet you never ever see anyone of color and who's major life crisis "is who should I be with today." gets a bit old.

They've outlasted their time and it needs to end. The writers are quickly running out of material.

These are my opinions of course and yours probably will vary :)

Mssilhouette

Tuesday, November 06, 2001 - 02:19 pm Click here to edit this post
Oh one more thing....

Gilmore Girls ROCKS!
Well written, good dialgoue and real people characters. (Translation...not everyone is a stickgirl) The show doesn't think its audience is stupid. Think of the quirky characters on Northen Exposure but not too odd and with a lot of heart.

If I had a young teen daughter I'd want her to watch that show instead of friends. Far more postive and a great mother daughter relationship.

Angelnikki

Tuesday, November 06, 2001 - 04:43 pm Click here to edit this post
my opinion is gilmore girls sucks big time :)
and id rather watch friends re runs :)

Oregonfire

Tuesday, November 06, 2001 - 05:56 pm Click here to edit this post
Tell us how you really feel, Ankelnikki! Don't hold back. I like strong opinions--I've been suppressing mine at work and I'm nearing a total emotional suppression induced freak out.

Mssilhouette

Tuesday, November 06, 2001 - 06:00 pm Click here to edit this post
LOL Angel there's no accounting for taste.

Cinnamongirl

Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 08:25 am Click here to edit this post
LOL @ Angel
I really like Gilmore Girls, its just more true to life than most other shows. I don't know, its kinda sappy & sweet, but I like that :)

But I think Friends is also Great. Mssilhouette has a serious Hate-On for it, but I don't think most people do, thats why its still #1 (I guess). I don't think for one minute that its all about "who will I be with today". That remark just doesn't make sense to me. The big name stars were brought in when Friends was up against Survivor 2. A fight for 1st and 2nd place. Big deal. I also don't see the wedding to wedding, baby to baby thing. Maybe I'm not paying attention...
This will be friends last season, I'm sure. They seem to want out, so let them. But its been good while its lasted

Carigsby

Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 09:27 am Click here to edit this post
"I also don't see the wedding to wedding, baby to baby thing. Maybe I'm not paying attention.."

You're paying attention. When people don't like a show they tend to over-generalize and make statements that aren't accurate (mainly because if they hate the show THAT much, they probably don't watch it and therefore don't know what it's about).

I like Friends because the show is about, well, friends. The way the interact with one another can remind anyone of how they interact with their own friends. It's very relatable, much like Seinfeld. Especially in the first few seasons.

Mssilhouette

Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 12:08 pm Click here to edit this post
LOL "A serious Hate-On"...that's funny.

Okay as for friends. In that past few seasons when has there not been a situation involving a wedding or someone having a baby, or thinking they're going to have a baby?

You're right I don't watch Friend's relgiously, but the reruns come on before Everybody loves Raymond and I'm too lazy to change the channel.

I've seen enough promos for the darn show to know that every "Special Friends" moment is a wedding or a baby.

Ross's lesbian ex wife has baby
Phobia,had triplets
Ross got married
Ross got unmarried
Ross and Rachel got married at vegas
Monica got engaged
Monica got married
Joey thought Phobia was pregant proposed marriage
Rachel is knocked up...

I predict the cliffhanger for this season to be "Ross and Rachel get married...Finally!"

Who wants to make a bet? LOL

Cinnamongirl

Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 12:37 pm Click here to edit this post
How about a double wedding with Joey & Phobia (lol) That way, they can all stay tight-knit Friends without any outside interference. Could happen :)

Carigsby

Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 12:55 pm Click here to edit this post
My friends and I have been talking about Joey and Phoebe getting married along with Ross and Rachel. Especially since the fact that Phoebe accepted his proposal and kept the ring and it's not been mentioned since that episode.

Oregonfire

Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 01:24 pm Click here to edit this post
Friends is harmless fun, kind of like an appetizer, but not a whole meal. Plus, the humor is so stale now.

How YOU doin'? Could it BE any more predictable? (what friends am I?)

What I'm trying to figure out is why NYPD Blue is still on the air. I don't know anyone who watches it; it seems like it's been stale for a while now (I'm not a big cop show fan in general though). I guess there isn't much must-see TV for me. I like Judging Amy, Family Law, Voyager (hey it's a good show!)

Fruitbat

Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 01:30 pm Click here to edit this post
Gilmore Girls. I have never heard of it. On the WB? What is that? <when I find out, it will be so obvious that I will skulk out with my tail between my legs>

I agree that Friends has lost it's apeal, Ally too. They are done.

This new deal where Ally is talking to her lawyer/therapist is old already and there have only been 2 or 3 shows. I am glad to see her being less ditsy but it is too late. That would have been perfect last season. The format is tired. The newly hired ex couple? Horrible, absolutely grim.

Magikearth

Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 03:40 pm Click here to edit this post
Mssilhouette,
Lisa Nicole Carson,in addition to her role on Ally McBeal also played Dr.Benton's ex-girlfriend Carla on ER,but her character was killed in a car crash. She was excellent on that show,had a small but VERY GOOD role,meaning that there are no small roles if the actor/actress gives an fantabulous performance.:) I know this thread is about sitcoms,but I was wondering if you or anyone else watches ER?

Mssilhouette

Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 04:00 pm Click here to edit this post
Yes I do watch ER but I watched off and on last season because, frankly no one really interested me. ER has this habit of butchering characters until they are unrecongizable. Or they'll give them a diease or drug problem or a baby. LOL Wait it sounds like Friends.

Caught all of Sally Field's episodes, those were EXCELLENT. I swear she is a true actor, she made the other actors look like they were all standing still.

I wish they had done more with Lisa's character on Ally; (Renee)had great potential outside of being a Femme Fatal (a part which got taken over when they brought in Lucy Lu). After they added Nell and Ling to the cast it was like they couldn't figure out what to do with her outside of just using her to bring in another male character for someone else to play with.

I wonder if they killed off her character on ER because she was on Ally and couldn't do both. Sad to see her go but I hope she comes back on another show with writers who know exactly how to develop a character.

I'd actually wouldn't mind seeing her on The Practice but I don't know she'd fare up against the others on the show but I'd like to see what would happen.

Zeyna

Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 04:11 pm Click here to edit this post
I watch ER as well. It was strange how they got rid of Carla - they just killed her off, and the body that was there was not actually her. I think she left both shows after last season, but I'm not sure why.

Ally M. should be put out of its misery. Watching her puffing up her lips makes me want to throw my remote at the tv. I stopped watching last season, but unfortunatelly tuned in for the latest episode. Very, very bad.

Mssilhouette

Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 04:41 pm Click here to edit this post
I concure Zeyna, just when you thought it couldn't get any worse...it did.

An award should be given to the hair stylist on the show. He/She has a damn hard time trying to give Calista's limp stringy hair any body.

I know that half the time that work winds up looking like she forgot to comb her hair in the morning, but I, a lone viewer know you tried.
Everyone else's hair on the show looks fine. (Cept for that younger Ally Clone....that's to make us believe that the fresh outta bed look is popular...LOL)

Magikearth

Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 04:45 pm Click here to edit this post
What do you think of Peter not letting Frank spend any time with Reese? Its obvious that there was a real Father-Son bonding that went on while Frank was married to Carla. Now that Peter is forbidding him to see Reese,do you think that Frank will take him to court so he could get visiting rights?

Mssilhouette

Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 04:55 pm Click here to edit this post
Crap I missed something...I keep falling asleep. I'll havta watch it tomorrow night. (Or have they changed the times) I saw the second episode of the season when they brought whatshername back.

When are actors going to learn not to bail on a good show after the first season to "persue other avenues".

To answer your question Mag, I think that will probably happen or they'll come to an agreement. Considering the fact that Peter doesn't have the time really. And since his sister is still mouring the death of her son she won't be able to watch Reese. We'll see.

Magikearth

Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 05:05 pm Click here to edit this post
What a great drama! There are so many layers within the characters.So many textures in the plots. The way the show is shot is much like a film.So many talented,albeit overpaid actors.
...........So many run-on sentences in Magikearth's longwinded post! Sorry!

Mssilhouette

Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 05:11 pm Click here to edit this post
LOL Magikearth,

They started shooting it like a movie after Tarrentno was guest director. He started that letterbox (widescreen) format for ER. (I think that's right) Frankly all dramas might do to be shot like a movie. I love that West Wing has also adopted this shooting style.

NYPD blue even in its shakey camera style could do with some long establishing shots and 360 pans. But then maybe for that show it might take away from the gritty look.

Fruitbat

Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 04:17 am Click here to edit this post
OK, I'm gonna ask again. Where can I find the Gilmore Girls?

I stop watching ER after George Clooney left. It went downhill very fast for me after that. Just not at all believable that he would leave the women he loved and that she would hide her pregnancy from him.

Nancy

Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 05:16 am Click here to edit this post
Fruitbat--in Massachusetts its on Tuesday nights on the WB(wwhereever that is on your dial...)

Mahrajah

Friday, November 09, 2001 - 01:53 am Click here to edit this post
there canning everything these days... the sienfield curse is still goin.. they yanked that big bald guys show too..

all everyone needs in their lives is BET's comic view..lol.. guarnteed to make u laugh so hard u will have a life altering experience.. take me for example..

i watched bet's comic view and the next day i got a phat summer job.. it happens folks.. god watches bet too

all my african american peoples know this.. hehe

Grooch

Friday, November 16, 2001 - 08:12 am Click here to edit this post
I starting watching the Bernie Mac show this week. But I turned it off 1/2 way through. Did anyone else see it?

But I did get a kick out of the "Big *ss Donuts" :)

Donut

Friday, November 23, 2001 - 10:18 pm Click here to edit this post
i beg your pardon , Grooch!

Grooch

Friday, December 21, 2001 - 01:42 pm Click here to edit this post
Sorry, Donut. But big *ss donuts were a good thing on the show.

Last night I saw a commercial for That 80's Show. It's the same concept as That 70's Show. The commercial alone broght back a lot of memories.

It starts in January. I can't wait.

Solidsnake

Friday, December 21, 2001 - 01:49 pm Click here to edit this post
I tune into the Bernie Mac show every week. He is hillarious and its about time people here start spanking their kids. lol. Bernie goes about that in a proper way though.

Ketchuplover

Saturday, December 22, 2001 - 02:55 pm Click here to edit this post
That Ketchup Show. Now there's a ratings grabber :)

Weinermr

Saturday, December 22, 2001 - 03:00 pm Click here to edit this post
The Ketchup Show - I mustard missed it. I would have relished it.

Bookworm

Saturday, December 22, 2001 - 03:32 pm Click here to edit this post
*groan*