Archive through June 25, 2001
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Archive through June 25, 2001
Twiggyish | Thursday, June 21, 2001 - 05:31 pm   Wow, all these hugs!! I hug all of you back =) |
Jetticat | Thursday, June 21, 2001 - 06:22 pm   Grod! I love it! It's just what I needed! Thanks! What else did you buy? |
Bigbrotherbelle | Thursday, June 21, 2001 - 10:13 pm   < Belle rewinds and mentally highlights "not here, I don't think- other places" from her raving.> I was visiting other boards and felt upset about how mean people were over there. So, I came here as a safe place to vent about it. I don't really have that many places to go to just talk about any old thing, that's why I came here . As for that woman, I was saying that's the only thing I'd heard of that might have been uncomfortable here. I wasn't here during that time, don't know anything about it, or trying to remind people of it. I promise it wasn't meant as a reflection upon this place either. I was just grouching in the grouching place that's why I didn't mention the friendly posts. I'm sorry to have upset anyone Belle, who feels really small now |
Tess | Friday, June 22, 2001 - 12:43 am   Belle, I understood from your original post that you were talking about other sites. You haven't been here long enough yet to know how wonderful everyone is but I can see that you've read a bit and I agree that the conversation about Timothy McVeigh was very thoughtful and respectful. I haven't been here that long, either, but I know first hand how incredibly supportive and wonderful the people are here. I hope that you will feel that way as well. Twiggy's point is well-taken that in a wealth of positives, people sometimes focus on the one or two negatives instead of acknowledging all the good. That happens all over, I do it in real life sometimes. What I got from you is that you are happy to have found this site where people are by and large very respectful and also know how to have fun...not just with BB but on a variety of topics. That is a fair assessment and I hope it continues throughout BB2! Now change that to ! |
Jetticat | Friday, June 22, 2001 - 11:41 am   Napster. I'm sooo tired of not being able to find what I'm looking for because some cheap skate had to go and screw everything up. I wrote to congress and am willing to do what it takes to get it running normal again. I told them that I was upset that I seem to be the only one who appreciates Napster for the education in music it offers. My children are probably the only 7 & 4 year olds that I know who can recognize the wonderful music of Billie Holiday, Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, and many others. Napster was such a wonderful gift to music and now, it's like killing music! Grrrr! (I get a little passionate every now and then!)
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Grooch | Friday, June 22, 2001 - 01:59 pm   I read this article, and the camera ad they mention really makes me grouchy!! It's constantly popping up on my computer all day. New Online Ads Can't Be Missed By Rachel Beck AP Business Writer Friday, June 22, 2001; 2:10 p.m. EDT NEW YORK –– Out of nowhere they appear and quickly sweep across your computer screen. Sometimes they're unstoppable. There's nothing subtle about this new wave in Internet advertising. Marketers anxious to get their names noticed are coming up with promotions that are far more obvious – many say obnoxious – to anyone surfing the Web. They're getting attention, but maybe not the attention desired. Some consumers are so annoyed by the aggressive tactics that they say they will never buy from companies using them. "The first time, an ad may be cute to look at, but after the 10th time, it sure isn't," said Mike Pollock, a 36-year-old New Yorker who spends as many as eight hours a day online. The last year has been a bumpy one for online advertising. The slowing economy and failure of many dot-com businesses have significantly dampened revenue growth, and many established companies cut back their online ad budgets. "The industry is going through a tough time, and many sites are lucky to sell a fraction of their ad space," said Patrick Keane, senior analyst at Jupiter Media Matrix, a New York-based online consulting and tracking firm. "As a result, people are willing to push the creative envelope a bit." X10 Wireless Technology Inc. did just that with a relentless ad campaign for its tiny $80 wireless video camera. When a user goes to one of the many sites where X10 advertises, its ad immediately opens underneath the browser. When the browser is later closed, the ad appears and the user is forced to close it separately. Virtually overnight, the "pop-under" campaign made X10 a recognized name. According to the online research firm NielsenNetRatings, the company had 388,000 unique visitors to its Web site in January. Nielsen, which estimates that X10's pop-under campaign began in late winter, said the number of unique visitors in May was 3.5 million. Yet not everyone is thrilled with X10's practices. Internet chat rooms buzz with angry Web users who want to know how to disengage the ad. Numerous articles have been written on ways to make the ads go away. Even the company's Web site informs consumers how to turn off the ad for 30 days at a time. X10 did not return e-mail and phone requests from The Associated Press for comment. "It is a tightrope they are walking on," said Peggy O'Neill, an analyst at NielsenNetRatings in Milpitas, Calif. "They have made a name for themselves in a short hurry, and that's impressive. But there is also a backlash out there of people who despise these ads and think less of the brand." Pollack is fed up with X10 ads, which he quickly tries to close without giving them even a glance. "I think I am fairly certain that I would never buy anything from X10." Web surfers can use software tools to block these ads from popping up on their screens. Consumer advocates, however, say that the onus should not be on computer users to take such action. Pop-under ads aren't the only new formats being spotted online. Last month, Ford Motor Co. launched an ad that basically took over Yahoo!'s home page. When the first page loaded, animated birds perched on Ford's banner ad began to fly around the screen before eating away at birdseed to reveal an ad for the automaker's new Explorer. The ad was only available on May 4, but Yahoo said that more creative ads are likely to appear in the months ahead. Growing in popularity are ads, sometimes known as "shoshkeles," which look like cartoons floating over text and pictures. Such ads have been used by a wide range of companies, including Monster.com and Domino's pizza. One ad for airline JetBlue Airways featured a picture of one of its planes "flying" over the Web site Travelguys.net. Also being seen more often are "superstitial" ads, which load into a computer's temporary memory while a user is viewing a Web page and appears instantly when the person clicks to another page on the same site. New York-based Unicast, which developed the technology, has seen a rapid increase in interest, especially by traditional marketers looking to improve their promotions online. The company's business has grown fivefold every quarter since September, said Allie Shaw, vice president of global marketing. Interactive Advertising Bureau, the trade group that represents Web publishers and marketers, is monitoring consumer response to the new ad formats. Robin Webster, IAB's president, said online advertising "is hardly tried and true. It is not TV. We haven't had 40 years to figure it out ... We have to be willing to try new things." |
Max | Friday, June 22, 2001 - 02:45 pm   All the more reason to get Norton Internet Security with ad blocking as well as firewall and virus protection. Turn on the ad blocking and you might still get the additional browser window, but it will look like an empty window. Still a bit of a pain, but at least you aren't forced to see the stupid advertisement! The thing that bugs me now, though, is that some sites aren't visible if you have the ad blocking on. For example, ON24 is a site with audio and video clips about stock market stuff. You an view the site with ad blocking on, but if you try to open one of the clips, it doesn't run until you turn the ad blocking off. Sneaky buggers! |
Misslibra | Friday, June 22, 2001 - 06:06 pm   Another good program I have and it's a tiny little thing, it's free, and it dosen't use up your resourses is a program call SIP. You add the annoying pop up windows with a click of the button to the Ad's list in SIP, but once you have done that your good to go you wont have to add them again. Just turn the program on when ever you enter these sites with the pop up's and it kills them instantly, I have had it for a while and like it alot. |
Gail | Friday, June 22, 2001 - 06:21 pm   Missy - You don't think having a program like Sip would do something like go in and wipe out half the programs on your computers, do you? |
Misslibra | Friday, June 22, 2001 - 06:35 pm   Gail, LOL nope, and I figured out what happen, and why eWalla did what it did. I should of used the uninstall, and I should not of had it in the same folder with the other programs it wiped. See it wasn't in it's own folder. For now on if a program I install don't make up it's own folder I know now I need to do it. It was a very expensive lesson that I learned. And one I don't care to repeat. |
Juju2bigdog | Friday, June 22, 2001 - 09:38 pm   MsL, I got that pop-up ad killer thingie too. Mine is a free one from AnalogX called Pow! Works real well. |
Grooch | Saturday, June 23, 2001 - 10:03 am   I am sitting here at work, on a Saturday on my own free time, trying to clean and organize my office and catch up on my work. I think my office is a lost cause. I think the best thing to do is get some dynamite, blow it up and start over again. |
Misslibra | Saturday, June 23, 2001 - 10:19 am   Grooch, LOL I don't think that is such a good idea. JuJu I never heard of POW, I may have to check that one out it might be better then SIP. Do you have to add the urls of the windows you want killed in that program to? |
Lancecrossfire | Saturday, June 23, 2001 - 01:16 pm   Grooch, I am qualified to do such work! There is just something about blowing things up that doesn't compare to anything else. Do you want just your office dealt with, or is there anything adjoining that needs a little help? |
Tess | Saturday, June 23, 2001 - 04:35 pm   How about my basement, Lance, and then Charlie would have to hire a contractor instead of taking the next 5 years to remodel!! |
Grooch | Saturday, June 23, 2001 - 04:38 pm   Lance, I'll let you blow up the building. But it is quite a fortess. We call it the bunker. You might need a lot of dynamite. |
Lancecrossfire | Saturday, June 23, 2001 - 04:42 pm   Dynamite??? I won't be using dynamite. I'll use something with a "bit" more energy. There is always going for points of support. Did you know that there is a caulking substance that can be purchased with explosives?? It looks just like a regular tube of caulking and works the same exact way. Juju may be aware of it. Run a bead around most any armored door, and poof, door is removed. hehehe |
Lancecrossfire | Saturday, June 23, 2001 - 04:45 pm   Tess, what would you like to have happen to...err, have done with your basement? Setting off a charge would make a big mess, and increase the cracks that already exist. |
Juju2bigdog | Saturday, June 23, 2001 - 05:14 pm   MissLibra, here is that download site for the popup window killer: http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/network/pow.htm After I installed it, I dragged its icon to my startup folder so it starts but just sits in the icon tray whenever I am on the internet. All I can say is that ever since I installed it, I am way less troubled by pop-ups. But perhaps it is just the placebo effect? LOL If it doesn't automatically kill a pop-up, you click on the POW! icon and add it as one to be killed.
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Tess | Saturday, June 23, 2001 - 06:00 pm   You men with your picky little details. It's just such attention to the tiniest of minute details that is causing NOTHING TO GET DONE DOWN THERE!! Whew! Maybe I don't need any of your explosive caulk after all. I could just yell at the basement and it will collapse all on it's own. Then the contractors can move right in for 6 months and make things pretty. |
Twiggyish | Saturday, June 23, 2001 - 06:15 pm   Looks like something I am going to try Juju. I hate popups and lately they have gotten way out of hand! |
Twiggyish | Saturday, June 23, 2001 - 08:26 pm   Ok, update. I did download the POW program. It works great. |
Juju2bigdog | Saturday, June 23, 2001 - 10:55 pm   Okay, good! I never even really thought about it much after I downloaded it, except it dawned on me at one point that I was not getting popups any more. Of course, if something is gone, you don't know if it is really gone, or if it is just coincidentally gone, or if you killed it if you don't see a dead cyberbody.
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Tess | Monday, June 25, 2001 - 05:50 pm   Well here's my grouch for this week....parents who force their very small children to participate in activities when they are clearly not ready. In swim class these 2 weeks there is a little girl who is over a year younger than Sarah and she cries through the entire class every day. That means that one of the aides has to hold her during the entire class which means there are fewer instructors assisting the other children all of whom are 4 to 4-1/2 (except the crier). Her mother doesn't think there is anything wrong with having her child have one-on-one attention (not intruction because she hasn't performed any of the things they are supposed to be learning yet) while the other children have to wait longer and learn less. The crier held up the class today as they were going around the pool only Sarah and her friend, Dani, didn't realize that everyone had stopped behind Hannah (the crier). Sarah and Dani ended up down in the deep end all alone and the mom's could only sit and watch and hope that someone got over to them before they realized where they were, got scared and let go!!! Later on we had dance class for 3-5 year olds. Three of little girls spent the entire half hour sobbing. Why do parent force their children to do things they are not ready to do? To fulfill some unfulfilled dream of their's from childhood?? That is not right and not fair to the child. It's not fair to the teacher and it's not fair to the other children in the class. |
Twiggyish | Monday, June 25, 2001 - 06:02 pm   In the case of the swim class, the teacher should take the parent aside, then explain the child is not ready for the class. I blame the teacher, as the parent clearly is not noticing there is a problem. (Although the parent should take notice!) A swim class is important but it shouldn't be forced on a child. In the dance class, I totally agree with you. |
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