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Digilady | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 01:14 pm  me too! me too! (Kearie... are we sure? LOL) |
Lafatme | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 02:19 pm  lance, i work with small businesses if you need info. digi, she's sure! |
Elitist | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 03:15 pm  OK Lance. To set the stage, in case you haven't heard this story a hundred times before, I was working as a management consultant, then as the manager for applications development for the same firm. The firm was bought out by Ernst & Young (one of the Big Six accounting firms - we were in their management consulting practice). I was then a manager at E&Y for one month before I quit to become an independent software consultant/contractor - a hired gun. Working for a company since I graduated, this was a big step. My biggest fear, however, wasn't so much the career change or the cash flow, but was the fear that I wouldn't measure up on the open market. Here I was a chemist that programmed. I had almost no formal training in programming except what I had learned in college in the 70s and one or two seminars to pick up new languages. Everything else was learned on the job in a vaccuum - i.e. there were no "Computer Science" experts that could guide me in the right direction or correct me when I did something the hard way. The only thing I knew was that a young guy that worked for me had moved to D.C. and gone independent and was doing well. And we were somewhat comparable in talent - both of us had learned the latest and greatest language (PowerBuilder) at the same time and did a lot of work together using it. And PowerBuilder programmers were a premium. My fear was that I was going to go out into the "real" programming world with a bunch of hard-core hackers and be laughed at because of my knowledge and technique. In other words I wasn't as good as I thought, and might not make it in the contract world. To overcome this? Well I worked my butt off to prove I could program better and faster than anyone I was working with. And I found out I was actually pretty good on the open market. And that built my self-confidence. I hope that answers the question. |
Lancecrossfire | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 03:36 pm  Thanks E. I asked because I thought what you had experienced may be a lesson for others. There is nothing quite like learning from someone who's been there and gotten through it. Sure, we are all different, and have different affects on our lives. It seems, though, that things like hard work, taking a good calculated risk, stretching ourselves, and a drive to succeed can increase the chance for success. I remember from the game you saying how you got from point A to point B, just not what you went through inside. That was the part of the story that interested me the most. Looks like you have a number of people interested in being your next victim..errrr, I mean pick. btw, glad you proved your concern wrong. |
Elitist | Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 05:08 am  Thanks Lance! OK Digi - Truth or Dare? |
Digilady | Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 10:04 am  OH lawsie!!! Truth |
Elitist | Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 01:45 pm  OK Digi. As we all know, there are is a large discrepancy between the number of men and women in the clubhouse. Since Neil has now declared that we must all become intimately involved with each other, partnering has begun. But to ensure that there are enough male partners to go around, females must bond with one male and at least one other female. So who is going to be in your perfect group? You must pick one male and one or more females from the TVCH membership - and hey, while you're at it - give your group a name. And remember, this is better than listing the names of all the people that sent you nasty e-mails |
Maire | Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 03:46 pm  Elitist states: "Since Neil has now declared that we must all become intimately involved with each other, partnering has begun. " Did I miss something somewhere? When/where did Neil make this declaration? <Scratching furrowed brow> |
Noslonna | Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 03:58 pm  You mean Kearie and Laf are only following orders? And I thought they started the trend!  |
Lafatme | Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 04:37 pm  we did start the trend! but we owe a lot of thanks to big brother and the tv clubhouse, without which we wouldn't have met. |
Guruchaz | Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 05:56 pm  It could be a hypothetical situation, Maire. |
Digilady | Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 08:45 pm  I had a feeling I was going to have to list names. ha! Elit, you, you, you !! LOL OK. Hmph. The ole desert island scenario, ooops TVCH scenario. Any group that would have me in it would be free thinkers, easy going. Bright suckers. Oh man, there are so many to choose from, in these waters! The obvious: Nossie, Sis and Gail. The male: Flint. Our name: ThongBusters! OH boy tis my turn now. Max!! Come out and play. |
Max | Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 09:50 pm  um, I've never checked this stuff out--I've been lured here from the TTMM thread! I'll take truth, I guess.  |
Digilady | Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 10:47 pm  Elit's question was a killer! So, Max, you get the same one. List your perfect group and give it a name! <snark> |
Norwican | Thursday, March 08, 2001 - 06:58 am  Elitist what's up with you grouping people together? Were you a Shepherd in a previous life or something? It is becoming apparent that this is a bonafide trend with you. First, TVCH Couples... then Who Do You Run With... then the groups you mentioned in the Game II... now this. BTW, since TTMM ended... I'll play this if anyone wants to pick me. |
Juju2bigdog | Thursday, March 08, 2001 - 07:19 am  Okay, what have I missed about Laf and Kearie? DON'T let me go to Australia without getting this valuable information. I will be worried sick. Haven't been able to read much of the boards since getting on the road again.
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Rollerboy | Thursday, March 08, 2001 - 07:51 am  I understand the truth part of this game but how would the dare part be accomplished? Interesting thread. |
Guruchaz | Thursday, March 08, 2001 - 08:49 am  Stick around and find out. lol! |
Guruchaz | Thursday, March 08, 2001 - 08:51 am  Hey Rollerboy, have you met Merlin yet? I just noticed you two are about the same age. He's a good man to know. |
Elitist | Thursday, March 08, 2001 - 08:52 am  Nor - People. People who need people, Are the luckiest people in the world. |
Noslonna | Thursday, March 08, 2001 - 08:53 am  Rollerboy run away from those wicked Dares!!  |
Guruchaz | Thursday, March 08, 2001 - 08:55 am  This thread tests how open people can be. |
Norwican | Thursday, March 08, 2001 - 09:31 am  LOL Elit... good answer |
Lafatme | Thursday, March 08, 2001 - 10:13 am  JuJu, read the last few posts in the ease stress and stars threads, it should be enough of a hint. btw, when are you going to australia? i was in sydney for a week but it was years ago. i loved it! |
Rollerboy | Thursday, March 08, 2001 - 10:19 am  No Guru, haven't had the pleasure of meeting Merlin as yet. Being too honest is one of my many character flaws. Thanks for the warning Nos. |
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