Would you buy Timothy McVeigh's book?

The ClubHouse: General Discussions - Jan -Apr. 2001: April: Would you buy Timothy McVeigh's book?

Twiggyish

Tuesday, April 17, 2001 - 05:24 am Click here to edit this post
I am curious about him, but I don't want to contribute to anything by him.

Resortgirl

Tuesday, April 17, 2001 - 06:09 am Click here to edit this post
I guess I would want to know where the money is going to. As long as he doesn't prosper in any way from it I would read it. Just as I would read about Hitler. I think it's important to try to understand pure evil so you can protect yourself from it. If he would benefit from the sale of the book I'll read it in my local library.

Jenhavins

Tuesday, April 17, 2001 - 07:16 am Click here to edit this post
Maybe my children might read about Timothy when they become adults (when I have children), however, since I have seen so much in the media, I don't think I would have any interest.

Kady99

Tuesday, April 17, 2001 - 01:13 pm Click here to edit this post
There is no way I would buy the book. I probably wouldn't read it from the library either. I would rather read more positive things.

Max

Tuesday, April 17, 2001 - 01:32 pm Click here to edit this post
I might read a book ABOUT him at some point, but I wouldn't read one BY him. I have no interest in any ramblings he might want to share with the world.

Flint

Tuesday, April 17, 2001 - 01:49 pm Click here to edit this post
I wouldn't buy his book, but I would throw the switch.

Tess

Tuesday, April 17, 2001 - 02:08 pm Click here to edit this post
No, I would never read his book. I don't want to understand pure evil. I don't think we'd get any real insight from anything he would write. It sickens me how he is even trying to orchestrate his own execution for maximum publicity. He told the guy from 60 Minutes (oh, what is his name?) that if he'd know there was a day care center in the building he would have picked another target. I don't believe him for a nano-second.

Jenhavins

Tuesday, April 17, 2001 - 02:28 pm Click here to edit this post
They also de-bunked his not knowing there was a day care center on 60 minutes.

I don't think it is wrong to want to understand the psyche of someone, I just don't think that someone (or their family) should be able to make money off of the misfortune and horror that they caused others.

Tess

Tuesday, April 17, 2001 - 04:01 pm Click here to edit this post
Jenhavins, you're right about wanting to understand the psyche of someone but everytime I've seen him on the news or where ever, I feel no closer to understanding than before. The fact that he hates the government and blames it for Waco, etc. doesn't explain how that translates into killing innocent people. I absolutely agree that neither he, his relations, nor the other parties tried and found guilty should profit in anyway off this or any other book, movie, whatever.

Jenhavins

Tuesday, April 17, 2001 - 04:44 pm Click here to edit this post
I totally agree with you Tess...I live in Waco and was in total awe in how he decided that more people needed to die because of the incident here. He is not in his right mind and I wouldn't read his book. However, I have read the book on Son of Sam and it was so sad and horrible that I really haven't been intrigued to pick up another book as such as that. I think it may have a lot to do with the fact that I was little when it happened and didn't follow the news on it.

The media has told most of the story on Timothy McVeigh and I don't have an interest in hearing any more.

Highlander

Tuesday, April 17, 2001 - 05:11 pm Click here to edit this post
well Jen, having lived through the son of sam era, I can understand why people wouldnt want to read Mcveighs book. Living in NY at the time, it was a fearsome time. You were afraid to go out at night, police cars were at every bridge and tunnel crossing. When he decided to write a book they passed the son of sam law where a convicted felon would not be able to profit from his crimes. I can still remember the mother of stacy Moskowitz, one of his victims, on TV at night talking about the pain. Stacy Moskowitz was in the car with her boyfriend, she was killed and he was blinded for life. People like that should not see monetary gains from their crimes and shouldnt be given the attention.

Jenhavins

Tuesday, April 17, 2001 - 06:01 pm Click here to edit this post
High, It sounds like it was a nightmare. I remember my parents talking about it, but I never knew it was so awful until I read the book (it has been several years ago, and I believe the book I read was written by a detective that was on the case at the time).

I have a question though. Wasn't there a serial killer that painted while in prison and sold his paintings to the public for monetary gain (before he was excecuted)? Was this before or after the Son of Sam law? I just found that to be amazing that the laws would allow a prisoner to profit that way.

Highlander

Tuesday, April 17, 2001 - 06:03 pm Click here to edit this post
I dont know I jsut know that NY passed the son of sam law because of his trying to profit from his crimes. I dont know if other states have the same laws.

Jenhavins

Tuesday, April 17, 2001 - 06:09 pm Click here to edit this post
I think the serial killer's name was Gaines. Anyway, I've seen enough of Timothy on television and usually change the channel when something comes on about him. I feel for his family, but I wouldn't want them to profit from his hate.

Highlander

Tuesday, April 17, 2001 - 06:11 pm Click here to edit this post
yes you can feel for someones family just like you feel for the Harris and Kliebold families in Colorado. For me, I dont want to give these people any more attention than they already have received. When you look at McVeigh, who wants his execution televisted on national tv, who wants to give an interview, I think the best thing is to let him go quietly into the night like the nothing he is.

Jenhavins

Tuesday, April 17, 2001 - 06:21 pm Click here to edit this post
I agree High. The media has given him a lot of press. Too much I think. To bad they don't do the same for Nobel prize winners or people dedicating their lives helping others. I guess good doers don't sell advertising or bring in viewers.

Tess

Tuesday, April 17, 2001 - 07:10 pm Click here to edit this post
Jen, I think it was John Wayne Gacy that did the paintings. I remember seeing something about it on one of the newsmagazine shows. I don't know if it was before or after the law was passed or if the money when into the fund used to pay restitution.

I agree with the fact that there's been too much of a forum for McVeigh. The persons I think police specialists and counselors should hear from would be the 2 lastest of the in California who turned on their classmates in such a horrible way. There needs to be a clear understanding of why this keeps happening so these tragedies don't continue. There are so many of these kids in jail now and still it happens over and over. Here in Minnesota we've had countless bomb threats and personal threats in area schools the past few weeks from kids just looking for a thrill. All have been false but no one dares ingnore them just in case. I don't understand the mindset that would allow these kids (and some of them have been junior high girls) to phone in threats. Some are going to jail and some to juvenile detention. All have made a huge bid for attention and it's too late to take back what they've done. The local news station I watch profiles outstanding area students in academics, sports and extra-curricular activities several times every week. It's a little thing but it does help to balance out all the horror we hear about day after day.

Rollerboy

Wednesday, April 18, 2001 - 07:36 am Click here to edit this post
It was Gacy and he painted and sold paintings of clowns. Rather ironic, considering.

Tksoard

Wednesday, April 18, 2001 - 07:51 am Click here to edit this post
I heard this morning that they are trying to have McVeighs execution on the net. It would cost $1.95 to view it. Would any of you do that? I have WebTV, so I wouldn't be able to watch it, but even if I could, I wouldn't. That was his idea, and I think he's gotten enough attention, so "just be gone with you!!"

Twiggyish

Wednesday, April 18, 2001 - 08:32 am Click here to edit this post
If it is McVeigh's idea, I want no part of it. I am sure he is enjoying his fame right now. grrrrrrrrrr

Max

Wednesday, April 18, 2001 - 08:39 am Click here to edit this post
I have no desire to watch ANYONE be executed. The apparent fact that McVeigh actually WANTS people to watch only adds to my conviction on this matter.

Karuuna

Wednesday, April 18, 2001 - 08:40 am Click here to edit this post
I am simply against execution, no matter how vicious the crime. So I wouldn't watch it.

Jenhavins

Wednesday, April 18, 2001 - 10:45 am Click here to edit this post
I wouldn't watch either. Thanks Tess and Roller...wasn't sure what his name was.

Willi

Wednesday, April 18, 2001 - 12:27 pm Click here to edit this post
Wouldn't buy the book. Wouldn't watch the execution.

Tess

Wednesday, April 18, 2001 - 02:09 pm Click here to edit this post
No, I would not watch his execution. He wants people to watch it and I can't fathom why. It just makes my blood boil to think that he's able to orchestra all of this in any way.

Yup, Roller is right about the clowns that Gacy painted. I sure wish I remembered who got the money, though. I can only pray it went to the victims' families.

Grooch

Wednesday, April 18, 2001 - 02:36 pm Click here to edit this post
Tess, I believe he got the money. In a sick twist about Gacy, there is a guy who wrote a book about him. I know I'm going to get some of the details wrong, but I believe he started writing to him in high school. I can't remember the reason why he wrote to him in the first place, I think it was with the purpose to write a book about him or something. But for some reason Gacy liked the letter, and started writting back. (I think because this was a young kid similiar to his victems) And in his letters he told a lot about himself and his personal feelings and thoughts.

Well this kid kept writing back to him to get information about him to write this book. Somehow Gacy convinced him to come visit him at the prison. The kid went, and because Gacy made so much money from the paintings, he was able to arrange w/ the guards to be alone in the room w/ the kid.

He then went and put his arm around the kid's neck or something like that to show him how his victems couldn't escape, and told the kid that if he (Gacy)wanted to kill the kid, he could. But he did let him go.

Tess

Wednesday, April 18, 2001 - 10:38 pm Click here to edit this post
OMG, Grooch. Makes me shudder.