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Llkoolaid

Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 10:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dahli, if you want to and the people here want it I will help type it out one chapter at a time. Just let me know and if Dahli agrees we can do it. I haven't finished reading it but what an eye opener. Anyway if you guys want I can start typing and you can print it off. The book isn't that big and the chapters are short so it shouldn't take too long. Maybe anyone else out there with the book will help.

Sia

Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 10:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Llkoolaid, I'm interested in having the book too, but would it be a copyright violation to reproduce it here? Should you ask Admin? Or would it be okay to reproduce it if you don't NAME it what it actually is and then change little things so that it isn't an EXACT verbatim copy? I don't know, but maybe GaL could answer the legal questions. I think it would deserve its own separate thread, and you might just head it "Advice on How to Stop Smoking"

Fruitbat

Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 01:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I would love that!!! What a lot of work! I have become obsessed. Now that I cannot find it I am convinced that this is what I need to help me.

Carrying around a reference is very helpful. It keeps you focused. I quit once years ago for 5 years and carried a book around and read it constantly. It helped tremendously.

If someone is willing to send me their book I will xerox it and send it back. That is much less work. I promise to do it immediately and get the book back very promptly.

I think Allan would be thrilled to hear that his book was this helpful. We are not doing this for resale. We just want the info. It is out of print so this is not going to be a problem.

Juju2bigdog

Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 01:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I found one copy on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2907387590&category=27323

It is in England. LOL.

Well, upon further research, it appears to be a British author and book, so makes sense the sellers are in UK. Okay! So now we need somebody to look for used books in England. Hang in there, Fruitbat, (upside down of course) and somebody is sure to find it for you.

Fruitbat

Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 01:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
...........hanging...............

Juju2bigdog

Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 01:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm back!!!!!

Found several people selling it here:

http://www.alibris.com/search/search.cfm

Enter the name of the book in the search box.

Yay!!

Fruitbat

Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 01:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am on it.

Fruitbat

Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 01:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I went there and did the search. I didn't see anyone selling it. I will go check again. I entered the search and that was that. Said they were searching. I am lame.

If I could find a person with one to sell that would be great but I have not a clue how you found that.

Draheid

Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 01:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Fruitbat: I looked around too and found that the amazon.co.uk site has the book listed for £5.59 (at current exchange rate that's about $9.00) They also have similar books listed to go with this title. Considering the last one B&N had looked to be listed for $45.xx, this would still be cheaper even with shipping. However, I have no idea how ordering for the UK would work. It might be worth checking out though.
Click here for the info at www.amazon.co.uk

Hope this helps!
(Copied from your folder! :) ) Edit to add: I hope this is the right book!

Fruitbat

Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 01:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
.............hanging...........

waiting for puppy. Bat needs a puppy now. Bat is twitching.

Fruitbat

Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 01:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Dra. It is too much of a pain in the a** to buy something from overseas. It would be easier to xerox someones book. Thanks though.

Fruitbat

Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 01:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
...........still twitching and now picking nits from the air..............

Grooch

Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 02:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Have you looked on ebay?

Fruitbat

Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 02:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, 8 days left to bid on it. They are going to send me a reminder.

The site you gave me Juju, just emailed me and said there were no books by that name.

Fruitbat

Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 02:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just went back and looked at ebay. The seller is in England. Forget it.

It looks as though the easiest solution is to xerox the thing. I searched several book search sites and no go.

Kitty54

Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 04:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just to add my 2 cents - I can't find the book, either. I really think it's the key. I'm beginning to see that I've been looking at this all wrong. I don't think I'll be sucessful, or feel like I'm not depriving myself until I read it.

Dahli

Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 04:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am so disappointed it's so hard to find, until recently my ex was buying them by the dozen in Vegas... anyway we'll figure something out, cuz if you truly want to quit - truly truly - this is the tool to have.
LL I have already got up to chapter 14 typed out and saved in my drafts so it's no problem to get that posted, if it's not a violation and I'm sure there are enough typos to constitute big changes to the original LOL!!
But Ms Bat makes a good point, having the actual book is great as reference and I'll be happy to mail mine out to you and Ms Kitty to keep as long as needed and then send it on.... a plan is in the works I'd say

Dahli

Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 04:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ps ... Sia I'm not really sure, but I did't think you smoked??

Juju2bigdog

Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 05:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Fruitbat, that is really weird. When I go back to that site, I still see four copies of the book for sale.

<spins head backwards>

Kitty, I agree you probably have to get your head somewhere other than where it has been. Ooh! That sounds a little strange, doesn't it? Oh well, y'all know what I mean.

Northstar

Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 05:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd love to be on the mailing list as well. Or, I'll just print it out if you decide to put it on here. I'm keeping my eye on this thread, and in the mean time, scouring every bookstore from here to ...... thanks for the help all you "nons".

Fruitbat

Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 06:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just ordered it. I was entering the word Quit instead of Stop. For all I know they had it at the local Barnes and Nobel. I probably gave them the wrong name too! I even looked directly at the book cover and so did my husband.

There are more there. Go get one!

Dahli

Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 06:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Really!? The original real deal?? I'm so glad for you Fruitbat - you certainly don't waste time when you decide to do something do ya?! wow...

Juju2bigdog

Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 07:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
<puts head back on and weaves out of the room>

Yay, Fruitbat!!! I am so glad you got one.

Kitty, there were four of the books on that site, all used, ranging from around $20 to around $30.

Teatime

Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 07:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Fruitbat, you are DRIVEN! Congratulations on your decision to slay the beast.

All of you here have my admiration and respect.

Dahli

Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 08:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hmmm for a $9 book that's amazing. But it's certainly worth it in my opinion, I love to calculate how many $ DH and I have kept away from the slimey tobacco companies. This book probably scares them a lot, since it delivers the secret they don't want out there... why people really smoke and and an easy way to stop. My offer still stands to loan out my copy and/or post the chapters here.

Tonight on Global (Cdn network) was a program about smoking cessation... Dr Jerry Wygan(sp) the whistle blower who worked at Philip Morris and told the obscene secrets of the tobacco industry.
Since 1954 they've known it was addictive and designed the product to be a very deliberate and effective nicotine delivery system by adding poisons such as nail polish remover and rat poisen which alter the nicotine to increase its addictive power and make it go even faster into the blood stream, heart and brain.
He explained how in addition to all the diseases we know it causes, and the damage we can see and feel, the additional (4000 plus!) poisens break down our bodies on a cellular level!! my skin crawls knowing that respected, 'legitimate business people among us do this and knowingly kill fellow citizens for money.

In addition to knowing this and understanding how quickly addictive it is, their target market is youngsters... get 'em young is their motto! knowing that once they get ya they've got ya... until you 'get' it. They've been able to, by product placement in movies and TV shows, advertising and promotion create the 'image'(thin, cool etc) which speaks to the brainwashing explained in the book.

When they showed the tape from the 1994 Congressional hearing where each of these tobacco company executives said under oath that tobacco wasn't addictive I was stunned. Can't believe I didn't see that or maybe I did and since I was a smoker then, blocked it out, didn't care etc which addicts are so good at doing.

Anyway pardon this rambling but when I think about how I was manipulated for as long as I was, it really burns my butt! LOL