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Egbok

Sunday, May 25, 2003 - 07:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd say she was mooning the camera!

Mygetaway

Sunday, May 25, 2003 - 08:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The egg's still there in this shot at least..

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(Mods please let me know if I am posting too many pics..:))

Whit4you

Sunday, May 25, 2003 - 08:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Personally I just can't help thinking about how much times have changed since I was a kid. I mean here we are ... people all over the country watching a bald eagle in it's nest and every move it makes... can you imagine us thinking about doing this in say the 60's?

It's just rather amazing that we almost take things this different, for granted.

I know there are tons of people with home cams like this nest - just wondering if 30 years from now people without cams in their homes 24/7 will be considered the rare ones.

Mygetaway

Sunday, May 25, 2003 - 09:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whit.. I know what you mean.. I will be one of the ones without one in my home.. At least not on my computer... No how, no way.. yikes

Max

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 08:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
this do not look good. On the other forum, they are saying that Patriot (the daddy) has gone away and the new, younger male eagle has been hanging around instead.

This morning when I got up, the nest was just there by itself with the one egg visible and no movement distinguishable. No eagles were there for a long time. Star just now came back but didn't have any food and for several minutes just sat on the edge of the nest without trying to sit on the egg or do anything with the nest.

If something happened to Patriot, it would not be uncommon for the new male to kill the baby. I sure hope that didn't happen!

Juju2bigdog

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 08:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Max, I haven't read the other board yet, but I thought the story was that Patriot did not return this year, so she mated with the younger male, the one who has been there these past couple months, and the younger male is the father.

I am also of the opinion that people on that board express alarmist and pessimistic theories not based on a lot of fact. I occasionally look over there but only pay any attention to it if the writer is Lorraine, who I think is eaglldy or something like that.

Max

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 08:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
From what the owners posted in the journal entry from March, Patriot is the papa. I can't be sure of anything since I only started watching this last week. But I do know that both eagles are pretty much ignoring the nest right now and I can't see any movement in there at all.

Both of them came back for a bit, but neither sat on the egg, just paced around the edges of the nest and then both went to sit in the tree for a while, then they both left again.

Juju2bigdog

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 09:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Star is back on the nest.

Egbok

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 10:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I just peaked at the Eagle Cam and Star? is sitting on the nest as I type this, so hopefully that's good news. I hope so.

(Hi Juju!)

Myjohnhenry

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 10:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The eagles have added quite a bit of nesting material and keep the eaglet pretty well hidden most of the time. Last night it was very visible at the time I posted in the above photos, but that was one of the very, very few times yesterday it could be seen. In fact, shortly after I took those shots Star got up and moved Miracle out of sight and a few minutes later took off for a few minutes.
Personally, I am not optimistic about the other egg hatching.
I read the other board, but take most of the posts other than Lorraine and Gary's with a grain of salt. :)

Grannyg

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 10:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Do you think Star would keep nesting on the egg if it wasn't gonna hatch? Somehow I think it's gonna be just fine and if it's not, then I'm calling Dr. Spy and making an appointment!!

Lucy

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 10:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
keeping my fingers crossed...
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Halfunit

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 10:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Something I thought of a while back....

The statistics that indicate how long it takes for an egg to hatch probably came from a controlled setting, such as a zoo. Like Whit said, who could have imagined that we'd have webcams placed in a natural environment to view these sorts of things.

In a controlled environment, they are probably fed better, can seek shelter from the elements, and don't really have the vast airspace to fly around and leave their nests for extended periods of time. Perhaps this could be a factor as to why it seems to us that the incubation period was longer than normal.

Plus, not all women deliver on their due date, lol.

Just some random thoughts.

Reiki

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 10:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Max, to the best of my knowledge this is the story this year:

Garry and Loraine are the owners of the property where the nest is located. They have a 24/7 live feed on a tv monitor of the nests. They see it like a live tv show.

In March they reported that a young male eagle and Star where seen at the nest. This alarmed them because in previous two years Star has mated successfully with Patriot. At this time it is believed that Patriot returned to the nest and was actively involved in preparing the nest. They were unsure of the role the younger male was playing.

The first egg was laid on April 11th. The second on April 13th. At some point in April Patriot and another eagle got into a tussle that resulted in both birds landing very near to Garry. The birds both flew off, but Patriot has not been seen at the nest since that time.

Garry, Loraine and the observers at the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) grew concerned when they noticed that Star and her new mate were leaving the eggs exposed for long periods of time during a cold Washington spring. Eagle eggs typically hatch after 35 days of incubation. When day 35 came with no hatching concern grew, but in the last 2 years Star has incubated for about 38 days, so they had not given up hope yet. Day 38 and still no hatching. Things were not looking good for a successful nest this year. Then slowly but surely one of the eggs began to show signs of cracking and we got our Miracle.

Garry and Loraine have stated that they think Patriot is the father of the eaglet. They have no way of knowing this for sure. Its just an educated guess on their part. The rest of the people who are posting on the other board are just like us - speculating spectators.

Remember that the purpose of the eagle cam is so that observers at the WDFW can learn more about bald eagles and their mating habits. Star has not been following the rules this season and is rewriting the book.

Sawheel17

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 11:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Reiki! So Star is a little "Hoochie Mama"?
I always believed Eagles mated for life!
Thanks everyone for this wonderful thread!

Grannyg

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 11:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Reiki, Thanks for the info. I really appreciate the news.

Grannyg

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 11:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I also remember the day Miracle starting breaking out of its shell, I noticed that Star did not cover the egg with the belly but with her chest and she seems to be doing that today. So hopefully things really are ok.

Whit4you

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 11:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I luv ya all but the slightly negative comments towards posters of that other board - here make me feel a bit uncomfortable... I know no harm is meant and they aren't really rude comments especially compared to how we talk about BB houseguests and stuff... but still we are a loving group here and I worry if those slightly negative comments are read by anyone from that board, they could be misconstrued as worse then intended. Just my thoughts - mods please delete this message, just wanted to put this out there.

hugs to all...

Off to meet Sage for lunch in an hour :)

Whitney

Mygetaway

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 11:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Reiki.. We have such a great group here.

Here is a clear shot of underneath Star.. Anyone see anything besides the egg?

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**edit** shoot the magnified version didn't save.. sorry..

Lucy

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 11:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What a beautiful sight!!
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Ophiliasgrandma

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 11:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I find it interesting how she is trying to stay out of the sun. I hope she's shading the egg with her tail feathers.

Mygetaway

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 12:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here's some info about "eaglets" that I found on a linked site from the forum. (Northeast Utilities System)

The chicks measure 4 to 5 inches at hatching and weigh only a few ounces. The parents feed the chicks a diet that consists mostly of fish. They capture the fish and tear it into small strips. The chicks snatch the food from the adult's beak and swallow it whole.
Eagle chicks eat as much as they can at a single feeding, storing food in their crop, an organ located near the base of their neck.

Mygetaway

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 02:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wish we had an update from someone at ECHQ.. This is so hard. It seems like the male has been gone all day, and Star is just sitting there. She just left the nest, but didn't seem to bring anything back.

Juju2bigdog

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 02:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for the recap, Reiki.

Lucy

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 02:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Got this from the other chat site..

Loraine and Star were really TV stars and the baby wiggled beautifully. The text on the King5 (Seattle NBC) web site is: 'Miracle' emerges in the treetops
05/25/2003
By ARTURO SANTIAGO / KING 5 news
KENT, Wash. - High above Loraine and Garry Robbins' back yard, "Star," the mother eagle, flies back home to the nest. At her feet are two of her eggs.
And if you look closely, one of them is twitching, actually, hatching. A day or two later, a tiny, fluffy gray eaglet joins the family. It's called "Miracle" because the eggs in this nest are usually incubated for 37-38 days. The first egg was laid on April 11 and 42 days had passed with no hatching.
Experts were telling the Robbins' the eggs had no chance of survival after so many days and sometimes the eggs were left unattended for hours in the cold and rain.
But the eaglet defied the odds and the skeptics to breathe new life in to the nest, and bring a sigh of relief to their hosts that were faithfully monitoring the Web cameras.
There are now new life and death struggles the little eaglet is facing. For now, it gets stronger every day and is off to a pretty good start. The Robbins' will observe the eaglet for awhile to see what kind of characteristics and personality traits emerge, and then rename it appropriately.
As for the second egg, it still has not yet begun to hatch.