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Lancecrossfire | Monday, January 27, 2003 - 08:13 pm     NC--I'm with you--I hope it's around for a long time Crossfire, you are welcome to jump in on the topics you like or not at all. Just hoping to get others who wanted to particapte--makes things more lively, especially when everyone looks forward to it. You express yourself well in the war thread. Without regard to agreeing (or not) to what you say, I enjoy reading your posts. |
Crossfire | Monday, January 27, 2003 - 08:58 pm     Yes, I need to or should I say, I want to spread my wings here a bit. I have a nasty habit of typing up messages then not submitting them for one reason or another. I am going to make an effort to spread myself around a bit and put more of myself out there. I can't say I am entirely comfortable that I've probably built up something of a warmonger image here without also taking part in the more compassionate threads, especially when I think it is my unexpressed compassionate side that drives the wheels of logic that result in a lot of what I contribute in the other thread. It is certainly not lost on me that I am in the minority here. I think in the end that what I want is the same as what other people want, but my way of getting there is at odds with the majority. In my way of thinking, either way results in undesirable pain to many folks, but I like to think perhaps misguidedly that my way gets there a bit faster or at least in a more deliberate fashion, though I don't think that either position can offer any absolute guarantees of the correct or desirable outcome. I think I am a person who while driven by more or less the same things that drive other people, I tend to only outwardly express what probably appears to exclusively be a cold logic or rule driven thought process. I consider that to be a fault or at least something to work on. There was one thread here I believe it was in the fall, I don't recall the title of it, but in one post in that thread I revealed all sorts of juicy stuff about me in it. Well, maybe not juicy, but I think it goes a long way to explaining my behaviour. I'll try to do more of those in other areas despite the fact that doing so tends to go against my natural tendencies and by extension, means that I am probably not good at it. |
Lancecrossfire | Monday, January 27, 2003 - 09:11 pm     Crossfire, glad you have you join in an time you'd like. I don't see your approach as being wrong or right. It's who you are--the way you express yourself. I'm betting (guessing) that most everyone would rather have the honest you than having you try ot be a ceratin way that isn't you. As far as expressing yourself on other topics, I'm not so sure you are bad at it, as much as you might be just out of practice? |
Twiggyish | Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 02:50 pm     Exactly! |
Fruitbat | Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 04:28 pm     Crossfire. I have not visited this thread before tonight. I came here because you posted and I always seek your posts. I like your sensibilities. |
Car54 | Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 04:32 pm     Crossfire, if you are trying to broaden your horizons, check out the Trading Spaces thread on Saturday nights. How do you feel about aubergine? |
Crossfire | Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 04:51 pm     Lancecrossfire: Always the welcoming even handed likable diplomat. I think I can manage a balance that is the honest me, but still let a little more out, starting with the unposted messages for example. They are certainly me, I just tend to hold back for no real good reason. Fruitbat: You're just saying that to be nice. Hehe. No honestly, It is good to see that some people don't automatically roll their eyes on contact with a post of mine. Car54: If people are willing to put up with me, I intend to get around a bit more. I will try to make a point of checking out the trading spaces thread on Saturday. I've not been there yet. Let's see now...aubergine?!? --- Main Entry: au·ber·gine Pronunciation: 'O-b&r-"zhEn Function: noun Etymology: French, from Catalan albergínia, from Arabic al-bAdhinjAn the eggplant --- Ahh yes, an egg plant, why trouble ourselves with english when french will do eh? Hehehe. Honestly, I have no feelings about egg plants outside of the fact that I just learned a new way to say it. |
Fruitbat | Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 05:02 pm     Cross..........I never roll my eyes at you. EVER. I jump with joy and email friends about how much I like your posts. My fault for not telling you. I am dead serious. Too many times I read and do not respond. |
Crossfire | Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 05:06 pm     Oh jeez, don't tell me that or I'll stop posting all together in fear of letting someone down. I'll get stage fright. Thank you for saying that though, sometimes I do manage to feel alone here despite the crowd. |
Car54 | Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 05:18 pm     Crossfire, I am going to ask Squaredsc to have a few words with you on color theory! See ya Saturday.... (not kidding!) |
Squaredsc | Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 06:13 pm     i see someone called. since lance said its ok to be female and post here i will answer the summons. cross, i don't always agree with you but i still try to read any of your msgs in the topics that i happen to click on. now as to the aubergine mystique. i see that you are new to the world of aubergine. im glad that car brought up the subject. some would say that i am obsessed with aubergine. i am. notice that i don't call it purple or eggplant. aubergine just rolls off the tongue. i also say it with a british accent. if you join us for trading spaces, please also check out changing rooms if you happen to get bbcamerica. i personally prefer changing rooms but i also like trading spaces. and in closing, remember, Aubergine, not purple or eggplant.
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Crossfire | Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 07:54 pm     Oh, whoops, I think I stumbled into a minefield. It was an honest mistake, I did not even know that aubergine was a colour, at 5:08, I thought it was a plant, the dictionary made no mention otherwise. My apologies. I think I need to expand my horizons of colour beyond what can be found on a smartie box. |
Lancecrossfire | Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 08:31 pm     Crossfire, I sure hope I'm even handed, and you may not get total agreement on me being likable. But a diplomat?? Oh no! I hope I'm not that. I'm willing to take a stand, and usually a strong stand on most anything. I just try to stay isue oriented. Glad to have you here tothough. I see you brought some company with you. Hi folks. |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 03:21 am     Aubergine *is* the British word for eggplant. We substitute the word eggplant for the color of it's skin. The Brits use it for any damn purple on the planet! |
Squaredsc | Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 06:41 am     its ok cross, and ignore ms. bat, she hasn't been taken in by the aubergine mystique, lol. but she is right, i do substitute it for any shade of purple.  |
Lancecrossfire | Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 06:23 pm     Ok guys, a question for you. The scenario is you've died or fallen off the earth or gtten locked away such that all the people you know will never see you again. What would you like to be remembered for most of all by your kids, your wife, your friends and the people from your work? (the answer may be the same for all, or differrent for some) Don't put "a good father"--explain specifically what that would mean to you (or to them). It doesn't have to be a single trait, but it can be. The types of things most important to what you contributed or hoped you contributed. If you don't have kids, or a spouse for instance, please indicate waht you would want them to remember if you did have them in your life. |
Merlin | Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 04:14 am     Good question Lance, I will be back later with a response. |
Crossfire | Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 08:29 am     Geeez Lancecrossfire, jump right in, both feet, ass first right into the middle of the deep end. I am considering my answer to this still. This is just not the kind of thing I normally spend any time thinking about so I need to figure this one out with no prior consideration. |
Nightcrawler | Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 06:42 pm     I have come close to dieing once in a car crash. when a drunk driver hit me. I was at the stop light and he was doing 90mph. and hit me in the passenger door putting it were the passenger seat was.(winsheld does not tast good) luckly I was the only one in the car.(thank God) this was about 10 year ago. anyway I have thought about this befor. this was befor I met Bookie. if I was to go away soon.(but I'm not) I would hope that evry one would remember me as a nice and loving person. willing to help any one with any thing. I would hope Bookie would remember all the good times we had and how much I love her. are 2-3? boys would remember there dad as loving and fun. and want to grow up like me. my famly would remember the little boy that was always helping people out and and taking time to lisson to evry ones problem. as for co workers and friends the would remember the same. and that I was always 5-10 minits late evry were. well I hope they know all of this now because I have no plans on going anywere any time soon. |
Twiggyish | Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 06:43 pm     That's so sweet Nightcrawler. =) When my dad died, I wrote something about his dash. I'd heard about the dash from someone else, and it made me think about his. The dash is always written on the tombstone after the date of birth and then before the date of death. His dash was between 1938 - 1998...what he did in between those two dates made all the difference. It was how we remembered him. Just think, your whole life is represented by a dash. Your dash sounds very nice. |
Teatime | Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 06:48 pm     Yes it is NC, and I'll bet your family and friends will agree with what you've said. |
Rogue | Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 09:05 pm     Quite a serious question, and one that I had to sit here and really think about before typing. I've never really been close to dieing, but the only time I can remember even coming remotely close or being scared that my time was coming was in the winter of 1992-93 when I was forward deployed from one deployment location to another just within the boundaries of a certain country we may be going to war with. An F-16 had gone down, some type of mechanical failure (so my team was briefed) and the force asked for 13 volunteers from my squadron to forward deploy to recover. We didn't know how long we would be gone, but I was one of the first to volunteer (I always volunteered for everything, just how motivated I am I guess). Anyway, w/in 12 hours my team humped in and set up perimeter after clearing the area (I'm sure special tactics and rangers had been ahead of us) and we hunkered down for 3 days...digging foxholes, setting trips, etc. We were small and I was unaware of any backup until another team came for retrieval. Anyway, those 3 days were probably the worst of my life (next to what I'm going through now); the threat was all to real and occassionally we would get info about "their" patrols in the area moving our way. We didn't know what to expect, but we were prepared to hold our positions until we were given the all clear for extraction. Those 3 days were long, I've never know anything like them; maybe an hour of sleep a day, no shower, only the food we carried and our equipment. During that time just sitting and watching while protecting the recovery team, I had plenty of time to think: Could I do this, could I hang w/the older guys, what will my mom say if I don't come home, no one from the states knows where I am right now, what questions will they ask, did I live my life right, and most importantly (to me at that time), would I ever see my fiance again? I look back at it now as an experience and a test of my training, not to mention my life experiences priorly leading up to this point. If I were to go today, I would want to be remembered as a loyal husband, father, son, friend, coworker, and defender of this great nation. I would hope that somebody would remember the sacrifices I made, like many before me, to insure freedom while defending this nation, whether it be in peace or at war, and that the torch has to be passed on to someone else who will remember all those before him/her. I'd also hope that my family would know that I gave everything I could give unselfishly, no strings attached: My love, dreams, ambitions, faith, optimism, patience and hope by putting them first before my own needs. Additionally, if I were to go today, I would pray that my wife would truly know how much I really love her though we are separated, not by choice, at this time. The family I wish to protect is distant right now, but another family, even bigger than my immediate, is calling for peace, and that's my American family (which is all inclusive). I would go over there again if called (or if I volunteer again, lol). I would give my life freely for it because of my beliefs if I knew that things would remain a constant peace here for my family. I know it sounds like I'm on a soapbox and preaching away, but not too many people realize just how much of an honor it is to be able to serve our country. Our military was belittled right at the time of my birth, and only recently since I've been in has it reached some kind of "acceptance", JMHO. It took ME to make the decision to become part of something bigger than myself and opened a door for my mind to grow and for me to experience new and greater things than most people will ever know. And I take it quite seriously. Anyway, I'm getting off track and putting people to sleep. These are just my thoughts. Proudly serving! Me |
Nightcrawler | Saturday, February 01, 2003 - 04:35 pm     Rogue that was really good. I think it was better then mine I want to also thank you for defending this nation and keeping us free. |
Lancecrossfire | Saturday, February 01, 2003 - 05:04 pm     NC and Rogue--thanks for being willing to share your perspectives and giving it some thought. I look forward to responses from Merlin and Crossfire. NC, I didn't see Rogue's response as better thatn yours--I don't think there is a better or worse for responses about such things. They are about who you are and what's important to you--we are all different, so one person's answers works great for them--and that is what counts |
Rogue | Saturday, February 01, 2003 - 08:56 pm     NC, I agree w/Lance. We all have differences that make up who we are; however, we all share alot of things in common: Love, hope, etc. I think the main difference we will see in how others respond to Lance's question is the walks of life we all have. We each come from a different place, raised by different people, and grew to our own individuality and traits/values. AND we express them differently. Some might call these the Languages of Love. There is a book out there written by Gary Chapman, a Christian counselor, who does seminars around the country. His book, The 5 Love Languages (I think that's the right title), is very insightful and full of great info. I've read it twice myself and have learned a great deal about ME in the last 6 months. Anyway, just wanted to back up Lance and let you know I'm glad you shared first because, to be quite honest w/you NC, I don't think I would have shared my thoughts first. I guess I'm a better follower than a leader, lol. |
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