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Jmm | Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 09:42 am     Not to be weird (yeah I know I am), but what does everybody else do with all those teeth? I have 3 little ziplock baggies and don't know what you do with them. Do you give them to the kids when they grow up? Ok, now I'm really feeling dumb. |
Twiggyish | Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 10:53 am     I've put a few teeth wrapped in a baggie in a keepsake box. The rest were thrown away. I know it's hard. But, what will they do with the teeth later? (Just my thought) |
Kstme | Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 11:15 am     Twiggy... Just saw the first part of your message and HAD to look! <a few teeth wrapped in a baggie> ROFL It all makes sense now! I kept a few of thekid's teeth and she thought it was gross when she got older. I still have them though. Hey, I even kept one of Ollie's! I KNOW he'll appreciate it later in life! |
Jmm | Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 11:19 am     Thanks guys, glad to know I'm not the only weird one here. <grin> |
Abbynormal | Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 06:27 pm     I remember when I lost my first tooth. I was so excited that I couldn't sleep. I heard the tooth fairy come into my room and gently reach under my pillow. My back was to her and I can tell you I was scared to death! I wanted to look so badly but I was afraid! What if she was a monster?? I never will forget that, I guess because I made it into such a trauma. I was even afraid to see what she had left me that night. But the next morning I looked and I had 5 shiny dimes. Oh, and about keeping teeth. I will run upon one every once in a while in the strangest places. I can never figure out which kid it belonged to. My middle kid started pulling his teeth every couple weeks when he realized he got money for them. The kid was without front teeth for over a year! |
Wargod | Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 06:36 pm     $5 for a tooth???? Ack! We've got a loose one now here...our first! Caleb's teacher has a list on the board at school...kid loses a tooth they write their name on the board and get a little treat (usually a sticker or a pencil!) He's just dying to go in and show his teacher he's missing a tooth, LOL. |
Suitsmefine | Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 06:47 pm     Well, Son got a goody bag....we do that everytime, fix little bags with a small toy( matchbox car, little action figures etc... for daughter it was necklace, stick-on earrings etc...) along with a dollar and some Trident gum....As for saving the teeth, Heck yea!!! I saved everyone of them, plus little twigs of hair from their first hair cuts! |
Lancecrossfire | Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 07:48 pm     <quietly backs out--didn't get the impression it's guys night in the social club---leaves lots of jewelry catalogs to cover escape (hehe)> |
Meggieprice | Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 08:33 pm     When Zachy first started losing teeth I bought a bunch of videos (Pooh, Wizard of Oz, etc.) whenever they were on sale and would slip one of those under the pillow. He loved hoping for certain ones and many times I was lucky enough to have just the one he was hoping for. And yes, I have the teeth! |
Ruditoo | Monday, November 11, 2002 - 01:08 am     I kept my two sons teeth(in a small glass bottle)and first haircuts,then lost them all when our house burnt along with all their other special keepsakes,most of our photos,handmade baby quilts from their ggrandma and their dads and my favorite toys our moms had saved to hand down to our children. It really hurt... I know I was crushed when I ask my mom if she had kept my teeth and she said no. I was young then. I hesitate posting this because it sounds like such a downer. I just am trying to express how some of those little things can be precious to some and you might not think about it until it's too late. |
Suitsmefine | Monday, November 11, 2002 - 06:09 am     Ruditoo, I know what you mean....that it why my kids little teeth and hair clippings are in the fire-proof box with all our other important papers and things...that is also where I keep negatives ...I know some people think I am crazy, but I don't care those things mean ALOT!! Sorry you lost sooo many of your momentos, but you still have the "heart" memories of those things....that is important too! |
Twiggyish | Monday, November 11, 2002 - 03:19 pm     ((Rudi)) I know, some things can not be replaced. At least you have memories. Maybe one day, you can write them down. The kids will have something from their childhood. |
Goddessatlaw | Monday, November 11, 2002 - 04:18 pm     Oh my goodness, kids - Marriage Material has gone and done it now. 21st row center tickets to the Rolling Stones concert in Denver. I made him call my dad and ask if he could take me out to Colorado for that weekend, and Dad said he hadn't killed anyone yet but it wasn't out of the question. He also said he didn't care if Marriage Material was bigger than him, because he'd just pick up a two-by-four to even the odds and by the way had he ever been hit across the head with a plank before? Marriage Material immediately got on the phone and booked separate rooms for us at the Marriott and called my Dad back to confirm the separate rooms. He then got on the internet and ordered a set of digitally remastered Kingston Trio CD's to be sent to my Dad as a peace offering (they're my Dad's favorite group). LOL. |
Twiggyish | Monday, November 11, 2002 - 04:22 pm     So cool!! MM sounds wonderful. Soo sweet of him to ask your dad. (Good for brownie points, too) |
Goddessatlaw | Monday, November 11, 2002 - 04:25 pm     It was a riot watching him sweat it. 44 years old and he's sweating the dad. That poor guy puts up with so much cr*p from me. |
Mware | Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 06:19 am     Goddess - Since when is demonstrating even a modicum of gentlemanly behavior considered putting up with cr*p? If he wasn't willing to do all this, he wouldn't be MM, would he? All is as it should be, in this guy's opinion. Anything worth having is worth working hard for, and that includes relationships. |
Babyruth | Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 08:31 am     Goddessatlaw, here's an article I thought might interest you (and anyone else on the Atkins diet) NY Times November 13, 2002 Waiter, Are There Carbs in My Soup? By JULIA MOSKIN I'LL have the bacon appetizer, then the porterhouse for two with creamed spinach." "The pâté de campagne, then roast lamb with béarnaise and the cheese plate." "Lobster bisque, please, and the triple lamb chops." "Gimme three steaks and a Michelob Ultra." Not long ago, New York City waiters would have interpreted dinner orders like these as signs of impending excess: a let's-throw-caution-to-the-wind celebration of a birthday, a bachelor party or a big deal. Not now. This is the new diet food. New York City restaurants are being swarmed by a fat-seeking, protein-craving army. Local dieters are flocking to low-carbohydrate eating plans that prohibit all potatoes, pasta, bread and sugar, but seem to offer unlimited access to eggs, cheese, red meat and butter. It's a tantalizing prospect: weight loss without any hunger or deprivation. "These diets offer lots of small victories," said Itamar Kubovy, a film director who has dropped 16 pounds in four months on the plan. "When I can go out and have a Caesar salad full of cheese and garlic and olive oil, I'm not exactly dying for the croutons." Since Dr. Robert C. Atkins published "Diet Revolution" in 1972, his low-carbohydrate, high-protein, fat-friendly program and its cousins (among them the Zone, Stillman, Sugar Busters and Protein Power) have come in and out of fashion. But recently the low-carb principles have been embraced with new fervor. "I'd say most of my customers and half of my staff are doing some version of Atkins," said Reed Goldstein, general manager of Angelo & Maxie's steakhouse on Park Avenue South. He added that the restaurant was doing a brisk business in Michelob Ultra, a beer rolled out by Anheuser-Busch that is specifically targeted to carb watchers. Brian Bistrong, who took over the kitchen at Citarella in Midtown last July, said he had virtually eliminated starches from the elegant seafood-based menu. "My customers don't want it on the plate," he said, adding that carb-deprived diners can request side dishes of spaetzle or polenta. The diets work on the principle that when the body is deprived of sufficient carbohydrates, which it generally converts to glucose and burns as fuel, it will turn to stores of fat to burn instead, a condition known as ketosis. "Low carb is definitely the It diet of the moment," agreed Lambeth Hochwald, a health writer in Manhattan. It is also the most controversial. Among its sworn enemies are Dr. Dean Ornish, the guru of the high-fiber, low-fat crowd that Atkins has if not replaced then at least battered; Dr. Neil Barnard, president of the Physicians' Committee for Responsible Medicine; the American Heart Association; the American Kidney Fund; and the American Dietetic Association. All cite the long-term health concerns of high-fat diets but concede that the short-term weight loss benefits are real. As Dr. Ornish has succinctly put it, "Some people lose weight on fen-phen, or by smoking cigarettes, but that doesn't mean it's good for you." New Yorkers, perhaps unsurprisingly, are grabbing at the quick fix. Eating out has always been a stumbling block for dieters. For the last 20 years, following the low-fat diet that most accepted as the logical (if joyless) approach to weight loss was nearly impossible in restaurants. As a token gesture toward health, customers requested "sauce on the side" or brown rice instead of white with their high-fat Chinese food. For the would-be slim, meals at bistros or steakhouses seemed out of the question. "I eat out virtually every meal," said Jud Ebersman, a real estate broker in Manhattan who has been on and off the Atkins plan for the last year and says he has lost 15 pounds. "And no diet has ever worked so well for me." Mr. Ebersman said that as long as he refuses the breadbasket altogether and calls for the check instead of dessert it is surprisingly easy to eat out. "Classic French is the easiest, because you always know what's in the sauces," he said. "Indian is great; all that tandoori. Italian is boring because you always end up eating salad and grilled chicken. And if there's a good way to eat Chinese, I can't find it." "Sauces become very stressful," said Sabine Heller, a marketing executive. Kitchen staples like onions, tomatoes and flour are among the ingredients that carb watchers must monitor vigilantly. Ms. Heller points out that drinking in restaurants becomes a challenge. Beer and wine are high in carbohydrates, but hard liquor is permitted. "You feel a little self-conscious doing a shot of vodka in a nice restaurant when everyone else is having a glass of wine before dinner," she said. Most New York followers of Atkinslike plans quickly abandon the strict rules about counting carbohydrates and come up with their own ideas about what they can and can't eat. Although no plan actually recommends unlimited meat, cheese and eggs, or absolutely prohibits fruits or vegetables, dieters say that the easiest way to stick to the low-carb diet is to cut out certain foods completely and indulge freely in others. And this is what makes eating out such a simple proposition. "When I was on Atkins, it was easy," said Jody Storch, a vice president of Peter Luger Steak House. "I had a steak and creamed spinach for lunch every single day." And a year ago, she said, the restaurant bowed to demand and made a rare change to its menu, adding an appetizer of broiled bacon strips that had previously been known only to long-time regulars. "Now we serve over 400 pounds a week," Ms. Storch said. "Low carbers love it here. They can even have dessert: a bowl of plain whipped cream." Low-carb dieters are eating enormous quantities of food, local restaurateurs, diners and dietitians agree. "Guys come in here and order one steak after another, boom, boom, boom," said Mr. Goldstein of Angelo & Maxie's. Jack Lamb, an owner of Jewel Bako, a popular sushi restaurant in the East Village, said, "You can always tell who the low-carb people are: they order miso soup and an awful lot of sashimi, more than you'd think a person would want." Dieters say that if you're used to eating a lot of bagels, pasta, pizza and sandwiches, all staples of busy New York lives, you have to eat large amounts of protein- and fat-rich food to get the same feeling of fullness. A three-egg omelet for breakfast, bacon and a big lump of cheese for lunch, salad and pork chops for dinner, then a late-night snack of peanut butter is not an unusual day's menu. Feeling queasy? You're not alone. "I was in a constant state of nausea the whole time I did Atkins," said Elizabeth Bogner, a freelance editor who tried out the plan last month with her husband, Jesse. "I don't think Dr. Atkins reckoned with appetites like ours," she added. "We were having Flintstone-size pieces of meat with cream sauce every night." By and large, many New York women seem to find it difficult to stay on the diet. "Women are so used to the low-fat diet — I think it's harder for us to eat all those eggs and steaks," Ms. Storch of Peter Luger said. "And the bad breath doesn't help either," said Ms. Hochwald, the health writer, referring to the "ketosis breath" many dieters experience. (Dr. Atkins recommends chewing parsley sprigs.) How far will New Yorkers go to get thin while eating fat? Are low-carb diets magic, or madness? "Yes, of course you can eat steak and foie gras and be thin," said Raba Belkadi, an owner of Soho Steak on Thompson Street. "We have always known this in France. But not too much, yes? About eight ounces. This is what the models eat. They have a green salad and they are thin and beautiful."
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Suitsmefine | Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 03:52 pm     Who was it that used to sneak up and bite us on the butt?????? I want him to sneak up on Goddess and bite her hiney, SHE IS GOING TO SEE THE STONES!!!!! |
Goddessatlaw | Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 06:19 pm     Holy caayyyrrrappp, you guys. I know the Stones tickets are a big deal, but I just got an email from George Grove - the master banjo player from the Kingston Trio. I'm having a heart attack. Screw the Stones, man, I just got a letter from the Kingston Trio. OMG!!!!! PS thanks for the post on the Atkins diet, Babyruth, but I don't think you'll need to worry about me being on it anymore. I'm going to be busy running around the block for the next couple of weeks out of excitement. |
Suitsmefine | Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 07:07 pm     Goddess, !!!!!! |
Goddessatlaw | Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 07:08 pm     Right back atcha  |
Suitsmefine | Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 07:26 pm     Goddess.....How did you rate an email from George Grove???? Have you been stalking again? heheh |
Suitsmefine | Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 07:31 pm     Now somebody tell me something funny....I need a good laugh. |
Goddessatlaw | Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 07:43 pm     Nope, no stalking - I'd requested some general information from a KT website, and a friend of his responded to me by email. Next thing you know I get an email from George Grove himself, explaining his symphonic arrangments for the group and telling me how much they love doing pops performances. I'm tripping, I'm just tripping. PS got nothin' funny going right now or I'd give it to you. |
Suitsmefine | Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 07:47 pm     Well, I'd be tripping too!!! You go gal, jump up and down and do the ketchup dance!!LOL |
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