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Irish
| Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 1:03 am
Hi JUN!!! It's nice to see you on here, Jun.
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Lancecrossfire
| Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 1:33 am
Welcome to TVCH Jun. I look forward to hearing a side of the story we can't know--what it was like being there. While a fan of Jack's, I thought you played your strategy very well. It's a game where many roads can be used to get to the winner's circle.
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Scorpiomoon
| Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 3:25 am
Jun: While I commend you for taking the time to explain your actions rather than taking more of a defensive, aloof stance, I still stand by my opinion of you. Recently, many of us watched "The Joe Schmo Show". We saw Matt Kennedy Gould, a guy who was put into a similiar situation you were in (not the exact same but similiar), act with integrity. When he was faced with stressful situations he took the high road. At the moment when it counted, he made good choices regarding the manner in which he treated people. We saw it is possible for a reality show contestant to not have to be vile, mean and cruel to survive in that sort of situation. I'm just curious, do you think you've learned anything about yourself after your conduct on BB? <mod - Ryn> Have you, for example, donated money to a charity which helps abused children <mod - Ryn>? It's great you're taking the time to explain and apologize to total strangers. God knows you are entitled to make mistakes. But don't you think your time might be better spent going inward and dealing with yourself?
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Ddr1135
| Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 6:55 am
Morning Jun! Welcome to TVCH, I applaud your bravery in stepping forward out of lurkdom. Like Spygirl, I hope you stick around.
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Ryn
| Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 8:05 am
Personally I think the comparison between Matt and anyone on BB is unfair. Unless you only look at the 1st 10 days of BB. Joe Schmo was recorded in 10 days. Jun was in the BB house for 80 (about). Matt interacted with many many many people (cameramen, producers, fake lawyers). Jun interacted with the other cast members and the producers (voices only) for the most part (the MTV awards and baloon ride being the exception). We also did not see Matt 24x7 - the editors chose what we got to see of him. Many of the things that might be seen as "negative" about Jun or any other BB cast member were things only seen by the people with the 24 hour feed. I'm not defending Jun as much as I am saying you can't compare apples and oranges. I am sure Matt did/said some things that would have offended many people but those things never made it to the air. As a matter of fact I am sure if Joe Schmo were to have aired on a broadcast channel instead of cable, some folks would have been a bit off-put at the very least by him licking chocolate off a nude woman, or some of the other comments he made. By the way - I loved Joe Schmo ;)
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Squaredsc
| Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 8:56 am
welcome jun and enjoy our world. congrats on your win.
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Redpen
| Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 9:42 am
Welcome, Jun! Congratulations for winning! You were among my favorites since Day 1 in the house.
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Angelsluv
| Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 9:57 am
Hi Jun and Welcome, You did what you thought you had to do. I can't see why anyone feels the need to expect you to explain yourself, it's none of our business.. If you want a good laugh in here, check out the late night chatters thread, we had a blast in there.
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Sia
| Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 12:45 pm
Welcome to the TV Clubhouse, Jun. You'll find that people here are quite opinionated and not bashful about expressing their views!! Congratulations on winning the top prize, although I was horribly dismayed to hear the vulgar language that was used in the house. I didn't have the live feeds, but the show--even with every other word bleeped out--was unsuitable for my two small children to watch, and they were disappointed to be sent to bed instead of being allowed to watch. I don't want my kids (who were still four and six this summer) to pick up the habit of using strings of expletives in their speech. As adults, I wish ALL the hamsters had exercised better judgment. You might also be interested in digging into the TVCH archives to read the opinions of several members who were shocked/surprised to hear some racial epithets and insults that were uttered by you hamsters behind one another's backs. We were especially startled to hear Erika refer to Jee's Korean heritage in a derogatory way and to make fun of the fact that his family had come to America only relatively recently. I don't know how you coexisted with Alison for so many days. You were wise (strategically) to ally with her, but had I had to endure her grating, whining, obnoxious ways for more than an hour I'd have run from the BB house screaming. I hope you'll invite her to join TVCH so she can learn from her mistakes, as so many people here have generously donated their time, research and thought to analyze her character defects in great detail, too. You're a good sport for venturing here, Jun. Don't give up on the Clubhouse. Just keep reading and learning--and maybe you can teach us all something, too.
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Scorpiomoon
| Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 1:49 pm
Ryn: I see your point.
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Guinevere
| Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 3:04 pm
Hi Jun! Nice to see you here. You were my favorite from Day 1. I haven't visited the Yahoo group, but I've been perplexed by people here who feel that any apologies or explanations given there are insufficient, insincere, etc. Wouldn't that be for the people being apologized TO to judge? I certainly don't think you owe any viewers of BB an apology for anything you said or did.
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Junbuggy
| Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 1:33 am
Lady Guinevere Thank you so much...I don't know, maybe I started up something that was bigger than I thought by posting my feelings...but I think that those like you who acknowledge and support me has made it worth it . It's so true when they say you can't make everyone happy. Sia, this was definitely the year of "no holds barred!" and sigh...I think we all forgot that there were PEOPLE watching and we were offending people other than ourselves! We were all so isolated and only had each other 24-7 and so we just let it all out, not being careful that we were some sort of representation (as far as demographics, not mental stability of this country...yikes, we all made mistakes. You guys, I took the time out to read most of the messages posted in support of me throughout the summer and I am so happy and so grateful for you guys. it's just nice knowing that I had you guys out there Hope to chat soon!
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Ohbrother
| Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 3:35 am
Hi Jun, Congratulations on your big win and for coming here to talk with us. What are you doing these days and how did winning change your life?
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Floridagirl1010
| Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 8:06 am
As I said above I think your awesome for taking the time to explain yourself...even if you didn't have to You answered both of my emails so quickly which shows that you are sincere and you do care about your fans I'm jandc3927 (Casey and family in the yahoo group I do have one more question...if you could change or add anything to the show what would it be?
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Lorry
| Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 11:22 am
I understand that because Jun is here answering questions that some of us might want to forget what she said and did in the house. Afterall, it's much more difficult to say to their face what we've said behind their backs. However, that is why people like Jun and Allison continue to never learn from their mistakes. I thought Jun, and Allison, went way too far in their derogatory (actually just plain disgusting) remarks about the other HGs. No amount of explaining will erase what has already been done. We all saw and heard Jun. It wasn't an act, and it wasn't because they were stuck in the same house. Those words and actions were real. They were not a joke, they were slander at it's worst. Calling someone a pervert and inferring that he might be, or that he looked, like a child molester is never going to be smoothed over by half hearted explanations, blaming the house, or the other people. I didn't want to dislike Jun. I wanted to like them all. Jun is responsible for the feelings I have about her. I'm not alone.... in fact, it appears that I am in the majority. I would rather Jun have admitted she was just plain awful in the house. Admitted that she is quick to destroy people's reputations, doesn't have the least little qualm about attacking a small child, and admit that what we saw was the real Jun. At least that way I could say she might not be my cup of tea, but at least she is honest. I have no lingering dislike of Jun or any of the others.... their actions did not cause me to become enraged, nor do I wish to continue to declare my feelings of disgust. However, when we, as a society, see or hear things that we know are uncalled for or over the edge... I feel it's our duty to say so... so that by example, we teach the next generations that the behavior displayed is not acceptable in a society that wishes to continue to evolve. Jun and Allison made this past season of BB4 a total disaster. It was the worst BB yet to air. They have shown that as a society, we are a long way from enlightened. JMO I just feel that playing kiss kiss and hug hug with Jun, after how we so vocally voiced our distaste just a short few weeks ago, is rather like accepting and encouraging more of the same behavior.... I choose to do neither and instead, hope for a better group of houseguests next season.0
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Maris
| Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 1:20 pm
I thought Jun played a brilliant game and it was clear from the beginning she was unemotional and almost clinical in her approach to the win and there was nothing going to stop her from winning. Did she do things that werent the nicest thing in the world? You bet but name one person in that house who didnt behave badly besides Michele. She was pretty far down on my list as the most abhorrent person in the house. I wouldnt say Jun and Allison made this season a disaster, I would say it was Shapiro and his stupid idea of the exes. The only person I really liked in that house was Dana but Jun deserved the win. She controlled the game from the time she walked in the door.
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Crossfire
| Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 5:48 pm
Hey Jun, thanks for the summer entertainment. Congrats.
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Seanflynn2003
| Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 6:11 pm
Hey Jun - (sounds like a song, no?) Was with you from show 1 - so happy you won it all - sure you made me cringe a very few times, but you had been the best combination of personality, brains and humor of any of the contestants on any BB so far. I am not a nasty person, but being in that setting and around some of those HGs I know I would have been far far worse, and guess what, I bet most of those getting on you would have been too. Good luck in the future -- hope this ends up being the first step in a series of good things in your life.
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Reiki
| Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 6:19 pm
I would hate to think of the things I might do or say if my life was being taped 24/7 for the next 80 days, even without the added stress of being locked in the Big Brother house. Do I think that absolves Jun from having to deal with ramifications of some of the things she said and did? No. But she doesn't owe me an apology. That's for her to work out with those people. Or not work out. It really doesn't affect me one way or the other. I have a Korean sister-in-law and Jun reminded me of her in many ways. Strong minded, opinionated, outspoken. Not always in a good way. Maybe that's why I took to her. I live in New York State. Maybe it was as simple as wanting to root for the home state girl. For whatever reason, I liked Jun and felt she played the game better than anyone else in that house. She did make liking her hard sometimes. I think it is great that Jun has come here openly to post on this board. She didn't have to. I hope she continues to visit us.
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Woodpecke®
| Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 6:56 pm
I always knew that Spygirl was one of the finest women in this forum. Now that Jun has graced us with her presence, this thread will soon become my new guilty pleasure. I'm now staring at a bikini pic of Jun and intense thoughts are going through my brain. Dreams of the summer of 2003 and wishing that Jun would seep through my monitor and reward me with a night I'd never forget. (I just want Jun to call me a perv.) Ha! 
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Scorpiomoon
| Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 7:48 pm
Lorry: Your post was exceptional. I agree with everything you stated.
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Whit4you
| Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 7:51 pm
Jun, welcome to TVCH! You can't please everyone - just trust me if they were to meet you live they'd probably be alot more respectful. Online some people tend to forget manners and such lol. I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts here. If you have time you should read some of the live feed posts (especailly from the first few weeks) you'd get a real kick out of them and probably be amazed at how detailed our coverage was (every moment that the cameras captured were written about in detail here in the live feed posts) Also check these threads: Houseguest quotes and while much of it is probably 'inside' humor, this thread is fun too Board memeber quotes Please don't take it personally the few who seem blunt or rude - guarantee you they haven't spent 3 months in a fish bowl 24/7 just keep that in mind. I would really really like it if you drop in here next BB season and offer your thoughts and feedback... it's alot of fun to be here while the show is going on. Stick around and download the archives BB4 archives It'd make for some fun reading when you ever have alot of time on your hands. Hope to see you here next season!! Whitney p.s. if you've found a few posters online harsh or rude, you should read about how they talked about Roddy - in some folks eyes he made Satan look like a saint. So you are in good company lol.
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Cricket
| Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 7:59 pm
Wow, I haven't been in here in awhile and am amazed to see Jun posting. Congratulations to you Jun. I didn't get your sense of humor at first, but once I did, I really began to like you. You and Jack cracked me up with some of the things you said...very entertaining. I too thought you were adorable with the Mime, while your two roommates were horribly rude. You did play a good game and deserved to win. I couldn't believe it when the ex-houseguests were questioning you and Ali and it came up about you saying things about the other guests, whereupon, you said.."Everybody did it...right?" Ali gave you a smug look and said "Not everyone, Jun." Oh brother, I couldn't BELIEVE it! That girl said she HATED one houseguest or another every single day. I knew in that moment that you were going to be the winner. It's too bad the producers/directors encourage the houseguests to say anything other than what they would naturally say. It's supposed to be a reality show afterall. Once again, congratulations.
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Meme9
| Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 8:04 pm
Welcome Jun! Congrats on your win! There is no way I'd be tape 24/7, chances are most of us wouldn't fair so well either. I do want to thank you for being part of my summer entertainment. You made me laugh and I love to laugh...so thanks. I couldn't watch very much of the last couple of days because someone was screaming or whining, lol and I just couldn't listen anymore. Glad you won if for no other reason than you having to listen to that. (I don't think Woodpecker is a perv...I think he just likes to play one sometimes. hehe)
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Gidget
| Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 8:26 pm
Welcome and congratulations Jun. Did you go back to your job? If not would you consider commuting to NJ. Just a thought all. Just as the people in the house may not always behave as they would in real life, some of our critiques are much harsher than we would be with real flesh and blood people to their faces. Just a thought. Just as the house has a game face, so do we. Now if someone would just give me $500K. I hear Adven is loaded. LOL
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