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Reality TVClubHouse Discussions: Big Brother ARCHIVES: BB IV: General Discussions (5): Jun yahoo!!!!!!!group: ARCHIVES: Archive through November 03, 2003 users admin

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Irish

Monday, October 27, 2003 - 3:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Irish a private message Print Post    
Jun has put a long message on her yahoo group!!!!How sorry she is for some of the thing she said in in the house.

http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/bb4_jun_song

Ark

Monday, October 27, 2003 - 3:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ark a private message Print Post    
Thanks for posting the link. I think apologizing is a big step for Jun, in order for her to enjoy her winnings. Good luck in the future Jun.

Onlyhuman

Monday, October 27, 2003 - 4:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlyhuman a private message Print Post    
It's about what I'd expect from Jun. While I think that the apology was a big step, it's also clear that there's a lot of excuse-making along with the apology. Pretty basically, she feels that most of her comments were "warranted" with the obvious exception of the Elena stuff.

Woodpecke®

Monday, October 27, 2003 - 5:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Woodpecke® a private message Print Post    
I agree, Onlyhuman. Jun also hinted at editing, game playing and psychological stress as reasons for her poor behavior. When Alison and Jun were in the house alone during the final week of BB 4, they were both very aware of how they were being perceived. Offering an apology a month after the game ended doesn't impress me in the least. The tepid remarks are probably a direct result of Jun's lack of opportunities in the entertainment business since leaving the game.

Scorpiomoon

Monday, October 27, 2003 - 6:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scorpiomoon a private message Print Post    
I'm with you Onlyhuman. I think there was sincerity in the apology, but "It's not all my fault. I was a victim of circumstance." uderlying attitude does not increase my sympathy or respect for her.

Sweetpea1994

Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 12:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sweetpea1994 a private message Print Post    
She apologized, but still gave the "it was the house and the environment that made me do it" spin on it. Why couldn't she just say I said things that were wrong and be done with it.

Floridagirl1010

Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 9:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Floridagirl1010 a private message Print Post    
Maybe she was trying to explain why she was acting so nasty? We don't know how we would react if put in the same situation so I'm not going to throw stones...I'm sure the stress and the ugliness from everyone else did make her semi nuts...it's really no excuse but we just don't know how she was feeling mentally...everyone reacts differently. Robert acted horribly as well and used the same excuse so.....:)
She seemed sincere and she did write a letter to Robert...something I doubt Ali did.

Floridagirl1010

Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 10:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Floridagirl1010 a private message Print Post    
Jun wrote me back....she and Robert have made emends and that he forgives her..he basically told her that the house did make them act and say things that they normally wouldn't say...the rest of the houseguests feel the saem way...she really sounds like a sweet girl and is very sincere in her apology...so let's step off of the Jun bashing band wagon and let her enjoy her win:)
JMHO:)

Scorpiomoon

Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 11:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scorpiomoon a private message Print Post    
Florida: Don't get me wrong; I'm not bashing Jun. It's just that, for once, it would be nice to read about how one of these people actually took full responsibility for their behavior, admitted being in that situation brought to light parts of themselves they need to work on and that they are doing so. Die-hard BB fans have heard the "The house made me do it!" excuse so many times and we are tired of it. That's all. :)

Kalihiwahine

Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 4:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kalihiwahine a private message Print Post    
Floridagirl...

How did you get in touch with Jun so she could write back to you?
Is she a personal friend of yours?
Do you have an address for her?

I'd like to write to her.

thanks....

Cinapoo

Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 4:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cinapoo a private message Print Post    
Too bad these people can't go into the house and be nice. There are ways to connive and deceive without being mean. It was just a game. Jun's apology was lame and probably meant for those she will have dealings with in the future. Sorry Jun fans.

Sia

Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 10:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sia a private message Print Post    
Cinapoo, I think at least a few former hamsters entered the BB house and behaved appropriately and treated everyone else respectfully. Three names come immediately to mind: Jason, Cassandra, and Curtis!!

I want Curtis for myself. Anyone know if he's married yet?

Onlyhuman

Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 11:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlyhuman a private message Print Post    
Sia, from what I understand, Curtis recently married.

As for Jun's post, when I re-read it, I found it even less apologetic and more rationalizing of her behavior. Any embarassment seems to be from people's reactions to her behavior, not from a feeling that her behavior was unnecessary or inappropriate.

That's just my opinion, of course.

Scorpiomoon

Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 4:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scorpiomoon a private message Print Post    
Curtis is married?

Oh man, his wife is one very blessed woman.

He was awesome.

Lorry

Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 2:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lorry a private message Print Post    
Has anyone comfirmed that it really is Jun??? It certainly sounds like her, blaming everyone but herself. Without confirmation, I find it difficult to believe Jun has the ability to even care, or be slightly concerned at how disliked she was and is. She doesn't strike me as the type to even make a half attempt to explain away her despicable actions in the house. I doubt it's her.

Junbuggy

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 7:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Junbuggy a private message Print Post    
Hi all:

Yes, this is me. And i'm sorry that so many people out there still cannot take my apology for what it is. I don't see how i can make everyone happy, so I will be have to be satisfied with those of you out there who are supporting me and hearing me out. Thank you.

I am not trying to make excuses and I thought you would all see that I AM taking credit for the things I did. I also however tried to provide some insight on what it was like in the house. Instead it must have sounded like i was xcusing myself? Well, I can't do much else except to be here to answer questions and try to provide more explanation for those who need it.

This is a great site and I am having an awesome time reading the clever and funny posts from fans. Thank you all and I hope to hear from you.

I am personally answering many of the emails I receive through my yahoo group but I will also check back here and keep in touch! Jun

Moderator

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 8:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Moderator a private message Print Post    
Welcome, Jun!

Just so you all know, we have verified that Junbuggy is indeed the 'real deal'. :)

Kristylovesbb

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 8:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kristylovesbb a private message Print Post    
Hi Junbuggy, glad you joined us here. It is so good to hear from you. I hope you are doing well and congratulations on your win.

Moondance

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 8:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Moondance a private message Print Post    
Hi Jun!!! And WELCOME:)

Woodpecke®

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 9:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Woodpecke® a private message Print Post    
Hello, Jun. I applaud your courage in venturing into a forum where many were less than thrilled with the dialogue they heard via the live feeds and on the television show. I'm stunned to see you, and though I was bluntly critical of your actions and motives, you are still a winner and that counts for something. Congrats on the cash flow.

Pcakes2

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 9:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pcakes2 a private message Print Post    
Jun has made her apologies...she did what she needed to do to win a game...that's all it was ... a game. I am a big fan of the show, but I take it for what it is...we are the people that support reality TV...it amuses us and entertains us...then (not) surprisingly, some choose to pass judgement. I can guarantee that most houseguests are not in real life, what they appear to be on TV. I have had friends who were great as friends, but the minute you live with them, they turn into different people. Without being in the exact same situation, there is no telling how any of us would act, or react to other people. I, again, congratulate Jun on her victory, and welcome her as a member of the TV Clubhouse! Best of luck to you Jun.

Pamy

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 9:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Welcome Jun, I am so glad you won and Ali didn't!

Sisalou

Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 12:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sisalou a private message Print Post    
Hi Jun! I agree with Pamy! :)

Reiki

Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 12:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reiki a private message Print Post    
Jun, I thought some of the best moments in the house were when you were alone with the mime. I'm happy that you won. You worked hard for it and you deserved it. I was pulling for you from the start.

Spygirl

Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 1:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spygirl a private message Print Post    
Hi Jun! Good to see you posting! I hope you stick around for a while. We're a good group of people...even with Wood around

Just teasin', WP!