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Zachsmom
| Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 11:25 pm
Thanks for the update Scandalousplaya ! I am so glad to hear that Jason & Dani have such a wonderful friendship. Always brings a smile to my face to hear about them. Questions..were the HG's pleasant to one another? Are Ali & Dana going to be best friends? How is Jun doing? Does everyone call Jack "Strawberry"?
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Grannyg
| Friday, October 10, 2003 - 4:34 am
Thanks so much for the update. I love that Dani and Jason are still so close. And I knew Jack and his family would be fabulous. Waiting on more details...........
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Ryn
| Friday, October 10, 2003 - 7:03 am
Ok - just an update...... another member of the BB4 cast is on the board - but decided to stay anonymous so he/she is about and I will pass on this tidbit - he/she said they spent time on this site before they were on BB4 - which of course I found cool to know
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Pamy
| Friday, October 10, 2003 - 7:10 am
Did they try to give us clues while on the show?? Did they try to give secret shout outs to Bunny???
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Ryn
| Friday, October 10, 2003 - 7:30 am
no - I don't think so pamy... here is a portion of one of the e-mails we got from this person, "I have been to your site numerous times before I was on BB4 and it is still the best site around. Keep up the great work.."

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Tresbien
| Friday, October 10, 2003 - 8:50 am
Any guesses everyone? Dana, Jun and Erika all applied for the show. Dana applied to BB 4 times so that's my guess.
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Demeter
| Friday, October 10, 2003 - 8:59 am
Amanda and Scott were also big followers of the BB series and talked about being on the internet.
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Marameko
| Friday, October 10, 2003 - 9:16 am
Marcellus needs to go grow up, it is his fault he was evicted..........
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Ryn
| Friday, October 10, 2003 - 10:15 am
honestly - I would bet that all of the above had seen this board before bb4 (but I am not saying which, if any of those three it is). If you recall from BB3 - Jason never posted here but his brother and another friend of his both said he used to read this site before he was on BB3.
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Onlyhuman
| Friday, October 10, 2003 - 10:35 am
Well, since Amanda and Dave have both been on the internet publicly since being evicted (on Dave's site) I don't see why either of them would be hesitant to reveal that they are around. It must not be Scott, since Ryn said he was hoping for info on the wrap party, and Scott was not there. I doubt it was Robert or Jee, since they seemed to have no clue how the internet works. It must not be Jack, since he's already posted through Mademoiselle. I don't see why Justin or Michelle would feel the need to stay hidden. I don't know that Erika would say that this is the best site around, considering her boyfriend is pretty involved in another web site. (Of course, this IS the best site, so she could have just been truthful, but...) That leaves Dana, Jun, Nathan and Ali. If I remember correctly, Nathan actually applied online, so it could be him. Dana applied for all 4 seasons, but she was still pretty clueless about the internet component, so I'm not sure. I could certainly understand her hesitation to go public, considering the things that have been said about her. Ali is all about Ali, I can't see her lurking here without trying to get her side of the story out there but you never know. The effusive compliment for this site (while certainly true) definitely reflects her usual "suck up to their face" mode of operating. I can totally see it being Jun. She did her research before the show and I'm sure that would include a visit to this site. I also think she would be hesitant to post publicly for fear of being ripped apart, though we don't usually do that. Whoever it is, if you are reading this thread, I hope you decide to unlurk. If you bring the gossip, you'll probably get a pretty positive reaction, no matter how you acted on the show or what stupid things you did. We're pretty understanding once the show is over and we just want the behind the scenes info!
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Maris
| Friday, October 10, 2003 - 11:45 am
My money is on Dana being a lurker. She was totally into Big Brother and knew every detail of it. I also wouldnt blame her for wanting to lurk, she was treated pretty badly by all message boards, including this one. But Hey, she got the guy and seemed to have ended up having all the fun.
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Lucien
| Friday, October 10, 2003 - 4:01 pm
Onlyhuman, I'm new here but just wondering why is it so necessary that the ex HG reveal his/her identity on this board? Maybe the ex HG isn't really comfortable about revealing her/his identity. So instead of participating on this board and give people here something to talk about, she or he may now choose not to give any info at all. I think, people should be allowed to do anything they want as long as they are giving the real scoops about anything especially this show.
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Ryn
| Friday, October 10, 2003 - 4:08 pm
It was my fault for implying they would be posting - I jumped the gun. To be honest I am just kinda happy to know that former HGs do come by and read up - or to know they visited the board before getting on BB. Even though we don't get any recognition (tvclubhouse) the fact that CBS lifts quotes from here and that we know HGs have visited makes things worthwile 
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Lancecrossfire
| Friday, October 10, 2003 - 4:13 pm
If a HG posts here, and represents themselves as such, we go through a process to verify they are really who they say they are. This protects them as much or more than it odes TVCH. As Lucien points out, if we have someone saying they are a HG and posting about their experiences and what they know, we all would want it to be accurate, and not some made up story. There are many reasons that a HG would post, yet not say they were a HG, and juts give opinions, as the rest of us do. I think it says a lot about TVCH if we get HG's here no matter if they show themselves or just give an opinion as any other poster. It means they have some level of comfort about our approach, even if some of what is said may hurt a bit. Or if they don't want to spend their time defending themselves, or don't want to be treated any different than anyone else. (that can have a double edge though--LOL) I commend any HG or family member for being here--it can't be the easiest thing in the world to do.
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Ryn
| Friday, October 10, 2003 - 4:21 pm
Ok.... one more tidbit...... ONE of the Hgs did try to signal "us" - or at least "Bunny" this year - but it was done in the Diary Room and did not make it onto the air.
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Onlyhuman
| Friday, October 10, 2003 - 5:51 pm
Lucien, it doesn't matter to me if former HGs want to lurk here all day and read up on the stuff that happened in the house and get a little giggle about the fact that we analyze everything to death. I don't blame anyone for wanting to lurk, since that's what I do on a number of boards, except where I feel comfortable, like this one. I was just extending an invitation to any possible former HGs who MIGHT want to post but are afraid of the reaction they will get. I wanted to let such people know that we usually don't bite. (unless you ask Cliotheleo real nice ) I'm all about the details and the information. If former HGs want to email stuff to Ryn and he posts it for us to read, then I think it is great. However the stuff comes out, I'm all for it. The little guessing game I was playing was for fun, and because I'm the type of person who would analyze a smiley face to see what it really means.
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Lucien
| Friday, October 10, 2003 - 6:32 pm
I don't think it is really that necessary to confirm if the poster is genuine or giving the real scoop. By doing that, it will most likely drive the potential info source away. Just like what happened with the other Alison's ex (I'm a lurker, so I know) he stopped posting because some people here insist that he has to prove that he is who he says he is. Besides, you can always tell if the poster is telling the truth (post consistency or in relations with known facts). What I'm saying is, the rules on this board should be a little bit more lax so that any new poster will feel welcome and free to keep on giving new info. Otherwise this board will die soon.
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Seanflynn2003
| Friday, October 10, 2003 - 7:15 pm
Lucien, Alison's supposed-ex was gently probed, not made to feel unwelcome; his response frankly made it look like he was not real. To blindly accept someone as the real thing is just as wrong, particularly if he/she is saying bad things about someone.
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Woodpecke®
| Friday, October 10, 2003 - 7:27 pm
<<<<ONE of the Hgs did try to signal "us" - or at least "Bunny" this year - but it was done in the Diary Room and did not make it onto the air.>>>> Who? I'm curious.
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Whit4you
| Friday, October 10, 2003 - 8:33 pm
Well after the way Kent got treated here, I wouldn't blame a HG for staying anonymous here. I love TVCH you know that, but the way he was treated here I personally wouldn't treat my worst enemy like that. He's a real person with real feelings, there were several who seemed to be totally clueless to that fact. (I was reading 24/7 then and 90% of the negative posts got deleted probably before he even saw them... but the ones that remained were still an embarrasment IN my opinion) Even my least favorite houseguest still deserves to be treated civil if they are a guest in my house - and that's how I feel when they 'honor' (and I do, silly or not, think while they are having their 15 min of fame it's an honor...) to spend time and share with a particular internet site. Being hypocritical is my #1 pet peeve, so I personally don't think someone has to be (and shouldn't be) sticky sweet to someone they'd been bashing all season. But I do think if they choose to post here they should be treated civil. And any negative questions should be posted as you'd post them to you're boss, or mother-in-law or someone else like that. But I'm just venting I guess - I was not a Kent fan when he was on the show... but I was soooo frustrated when he joined us and a few bad apples made us all look bad. I'm aware that nothing I can say can change things, the few bad appels will read this and just get mad ... All I can do, is ask any BB houseguest who might lurk here and read this to understand that the majority here are great people... and we can't prevent a few bad apples. And for those who dissed you "as a player" DURING the game (Perhaps myself included??) it's just a part of the game. Perhaps you would have been one of us doing the dissing if you'd have been here instead of stuck in there?? And while you might get a few rude people should you decide to share with us... the vast majority here are really great fun people. And if you'd prefer not to post now while the emotions are still heated and a few people may not be include to do the right thing and be civil... at least concider joining us next season - unless your name is Roddy (THEY can't seem to get over him being such a nice guy lol) by then I think everyone would treat you just like anyone else here.... I just wish all posters here would treat you as they WOULD treat you should you drop by their house, but I also wish for world peace and an end for hunger and those two are probably more likely to happen first! Oh and Jack if you are reading here - please we have alot of Q's ... let's play 20 questions??? 
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Zachsmom
| Friday, October 10, 2003 - 9:21 pm
WHIT!! Roddy is ALWAYS welcome here..and if anyone is rude to him, they'll have to answer to me 
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Scandalousplaya
| Friday, October 10, 2003 - 9:36 pm
We all know that Roddy won't post here because he's still Zachsmom's closet.
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Scandalousplaya
| Friday, October 10, 2003 - 9:39 pm
Ryn, you should tell Jun to not be scared to post here. LOL.
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Draheid
| Friday, October 10, 2003 - 9:46 pm

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Zachsmom
| Friday, October 10, 2003 - 9:49 pm
<sigh> only in my dreams Scandalous..only in my dreams I don't know why I have such a crush on the guy, I wrote him a fan letter last year and he never wrote back..I swear it wasn't an obsessive one either I just think he has an incredible mind, one that you could have an intelligent conversation with..doesn't hurt that he has a beautiful face & body..lol DON'T GET ME STARTED!!!!
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