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Serate
| Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 12:48 pm
"I think the other houseguests (and a child of one of them who did nothing) have feelings also. " This is just MY opinion. As far as ANY houseguest goes critizism and so called "hate comments" from those who watch are part of the game. You put yourself in the public eye you asked for it in this day and age. [I'm NOT saying that's right, but this world isn't right, it's just how it is"] And as far as the child of one of them who did nothing - why the hell is ANY child age 7 watching this show whether a family member is on the show or not???????? If she was lonesome for her dad, have the grandma or mom tape the show and only let her watch positive images of her father. It's too bad she heard bad things about her father, but then again if she watched the show she heard her father acting in a way a father should NEVER act and talk in front of their child. And as far as Alison goes, yeah the negative stuff probably hurts her deep inside but she's feeding off of it. The longer she can keep it going the longer she is in the spotlight. I personally don't think the Alison posts on AlisonIrwin.net site are from her. If they are then BB screwed up by letting her do it. I want BB1 back where it was TRULY a Big Brother setting, not just a holiday with a few inconviences. Like I said, this is just MY opinion which doesn't mean a thing except in my own little delusional world inside my pea sized brain. Jun - from day one I kept saying I DO NOT WANT JUN TO WIN. My fiance said you know you said that about Will and ended up loving him. I'll never admit it to him but he's right. Love you, glad you won!
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Wendo
| Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 8:51 pm
Ladytex, good points. Cinapoo said, "Wendo, You say you agree with Elms and say that Ali has feelings, right?" Yep. "I think the other houseguests (and a child of one of them who did nothing) have feelings also." Yep. "She didn't seem to care when she was in the house about "their feelings" so why should people care about hers?" The houseguests were in a game with no rules. They knew that everything was game with the other people they were playing with. And, as I already said, we have no idea whether or not Allison has talked and apologized to her fellow houseguests regarding her comments about them and about Robert's daughter privately. Frankly, I don't see how it's our business. "She is supposedly an adult not a 6 or 7 year old that was innocent. JMO" Innocent vs guilty? Good god, no one was murdered here. Some insults were slung that's it. IMO, the game is over, what's the point of continuing to judge these people. It's over. If they want us to know their status with the other houseguests they'll tell us. "I agree with Floridagirl....I can be proud of the way I raised my children." And this has to do with Allison because????
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Seamonkey
| Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 11:12 pm
Amen, Ladytex and Wendo... Has Ali apologized to Robert? Between Ali and Robert. Has Robert apologized to Ali.. again, between the two of them. Jun, hope today is going VERY well with your big dinner and all the guests..
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Coffee
| Friday, November 28, 2003 - 12:44 am
I agree that Ali did not care who she hurt. When she knew that she would be first or 2nd she was still saying horrible nasty things about other hgs. She is of age to know better but Elena is only a child and was not on the show. Ali was all about me, me when she was in the house and she still is all about me. As long as someone will feel sorry for her she will feed on that. She is only reaping what she sowed. She should just get on with her life but she wants people to feel sorry for her.
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Wendo
| Sunday, November 30, 2003 - 6:53 am
"She is of age to know better but Elena is only a child and was not on the show." Well, technically, Elena was on the show...several times in fact. As a result, she became fodder for public consumption and at risk for commentary by show watchers and HG's alike. JMO.
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Bastable
| Sunday, November 30, 2003 - 10:18 am
I will never understand why total strangers are mean to Alison. They don't know her--they only saw her on TV and she never did anything to hurt them. Yet I have seen some fans of the show whip up diatribes of such venom and spitefulness, as if their lives were shattered by Ali or something. Those fans totally forget that while Ali never did anything personally to them, they are in fact doing something personally hurtful to Ali. Something that could be of lasting damage. It's surprising and saddening to see how some fans' perspective is so shaky. Something about watching TV stokes peoples' darkest emotions in a frightening way. If fans really want Ali to grow up and be a kind person, why dump hate on her? You wouldn't do it to your friends if they behaved childishly, so what makes someone do it to a total stranger? I'm kind of disgusted by it. The powers of television are really quite scary. It twists our minds and makes us act in very unpleasant ways sometimes.
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Texannie
| Sunday, November 30, 2003 - 10:37 am
Bastable, it really is amazing. You can see it in alot of other areas too. The Survivor watchers are in an uproar, and the Bachelor fans are acting like jilted lovers. It is a powerful medium.
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Maris
| Sunday, November 30, 2003 - 1:10 pm
I agree Bastable. All Alison really has to do is join the boards post a few times and she will get herself a nice big fan club who will forgive all.
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Bastable
| Sunday, November 30, 2003 - 2:38 pm
I agree, Maris, that if Ali came on the boards, people would make friends with her and see her as the person she really is, not as the person she appeared to be in a highly stressful and unnatural situation. Which leads me to an interesting point. If all it takes to bring the warmth and humanity out of us is a little connection, it could be argued that TV, despite its illusion of intimacy with the things and people on it, gives no connection whatsoever. I personally feel the lack of connection and sympathy with each other has created many of our society's biggest problems (greed, homophobia, even Columbine) because TV teaches us to judge people for what they can do for us, not for what they are actually worth. OT, I know. But it's interesting to me. I'm still talking to Roddy. He said he'd be right over.
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Gidget
| Sunday, November 30, 2003 - 2:47 pm
I agree with you all. I have a lot of hope for Ali in the future... people can grow and change... I know that first hand. But I don't know about Ali coming here. I don't think everyone can separate TV Ali from flesh and blood person with feelings Ali. Jun is different. She is able to handle the negative. I don't know if Ali is ready for more negative.
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Maris
| Sunday, November 30, 2003 - 4:07 pm
I can handle Roddy, now if you said Kent is coming right over I would have to put a hex on you. I think TV gives a false connection and it seems that some people take the actions of these contestants very personally (witness the Jon lie about the dead grandmother which I think was pretty funny). Look at the Ruben versus Clay debates. It got really intense and was laughable. It is still going on. Look at the Rupert fans. What about the my cup runneth over attitude towards Rupert? Rupert was a great competitor but the 2003 GQ man of the year he aint. What did Ali do that was so evil? She was a spoilt girl used to her own way and used to using her charms on people and she was great to watch. I loved watching Nathan suck up her loyalty as she voted his butt out. She was great for the show. Every person in that house used their assets and strengths to get ahead, that was the name of the game. They entertained me. I mean come on, who wasnt laughing hysterically when Ali ran through the house crying because she used the same toilet as Scot? She entertained the heck out of me. So I dont understand the intense hatred or the intense love people feel for these contestants.
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Crossfire
| Sunday, November 30, 2003 - 4:14 pm
I still don't think Roddy did anything wrong. 
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Maris
| Sunday, November 30, 2003 - 4:20 pm
OMG Crossfire, you and I agree on something. The world is coming to an end.
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Bastable
| Sunday, November 30, 2003 - 9:24 pm
I disagree with that statement. 
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Crossfire
| Sunday, November 30, 2003 - 11:22 pm

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Ocean_Islands
| Monday, December 01, 2003 - 8:04 am
As one who has criticized Allison in the past, I must speak up. The power of television -- in fact, all media -- is that it can take someone before the public and turn them into an icon or a symbol of something. When this public figure is a real and regular person, it is a recipe for trouble, this is why people who want to be on Big Brother are in for trouble to begin with. So Allison has become a symbol -- a symbol for all those young women who act in real life as Allison did on a fake game show. And let's face it, these young women do exist and I think we have all encountered them. Regardless of whether Allison is like that in real life or not, the symbolic aspect of her turn on Big Brother is actually larger than she is as a person, which is why people would dump hatred on someone they don't even know. They are actually dumping their hatred on a symbol. Symbols are more powerful than regular reality. I would never want to be one. For Allison, yes it is sad and unfortunate. That is the danger of yearning for fame and attention through the media.
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Wendo
| Monday, December 01, 2003 - 10:45 am
Bastable and Maris, interesting comments and I agree. I think with BB, you also have the added layer of the live feeds, where you watch these people live, sometimes even looking in the camera. A "connection" is perceived by some that, in reality, just doesn't exist. Well anyway...Bastable, I think your comments yesterday at 8:08am are excellent too.
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