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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Big Brother IV - July 2003 Live Feed Archives: July 14, 2003 - Day 10 - Much plotting - HGs get Hula Hoops: Archive through July 14, 2003

Sbeachy

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 12:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
all 6 girls on hammock, giggling and laughing, remincing about the pass the potato game, want a do-over of the game because michele got daddy, ooops michelle is grounded indefinetly when she get's home.
now reliving the first game, more girl talk, erica bring's up, what are the boy's talking about. want to know if Robert know's sign language, let's test him.
dana, can't believe we got all of us on the hammock.
there's got to be a weight limit.
the girls saying which body part's the guy's are probably liking the best. whose legs, elbows, knees, nails, etc,,,boobs
all talking very loud and over each other.
amanda says, just tell me what they are saying, i'm leaving 3 days anyway, all the rest tell her to SHUT UP. she goes on let's go see what they are saying.
now on hammock talking about boobs, mich, ali, amanda, dana and jun
going to ask the boys what they are talking about.

an ambush.
posting (please forgive spelling errors)

Meli456

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 12:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Last post for the night...

Dana and Nate were in the hammock cuddling after the potato game.

Nate goes to Ali and Amanda joins Dana in the hammock. They were talking about Nate as hookup material, but he is prettier than them so they couldn't be with him. Dana thinks he likes little blonde girls anyways. They start talking about the potato game and Dana said they were playing "Sex the Potato". She and Amanda laugh and call all of the girls over to the hammock to share the joke. All 6 of the girls eventually lay on the hammock. Various joking and reliving the potato game.

Girls teasing Mich about having the "Old mac daddy" (Jack) passing the potato. Someone says "Mrs. Jack was having a coronary" and someone else says Mich is going to be grounded indefiniately when she gets home. Someone talking about two pump chumps and wondering what the boys are talking about. "Two pump chumps". Ali starts singing beastie boys song "girls" and they ask the boys what they are talking about. Making body parts dirty hand signals now to the boys.

Discussion on who has the best body parts. Erica's boobs, Michelle's butt, someone's legs... goes on for a while, but someone makes some remarks about Erica's boobs when she walks away and all the girls start laughing. Dana and Amanda push to go ask the guys to judge who has the best body parts. Ali and others seem against it, do not want to objectify themselves, but Dana and Amanda talk them into it. They say its like Howard Stern.

The guys don't want to give them that sort of info. They are being polite but don't want to do that. Now mich talking about playing a new game tomorrow "suck the potato". David says that might give him a wood, said he had to go into the pool today cause he had a wood just talking about sex. Jee says they have to stop talking about sex.

Cute1073

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 01:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
ali and nate just kissed in hoh room....then ali joked around that he is a bad kisser...they are cuddleing now and nate is worried that people will be suspicious

still can't type but wanted that in there

Deedee

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 01:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
F1 Nate and Ali cuddling and pillow talk. Now kissing a long loud kiss. Nate says you think they got that one. N wants know what A's ex is going to think about this. N says it will be weird not to be in that room. N says they have to have a kid. A wants to know if Kid has to eat grits. Very low wispering missing a lot. Now N says you are too cool for me Ali-cat. She wants to know if his name is Nathaiel. Quick kisses and wispering. N had his hand on A's back during the pictures at the door. ..... Ali says the best part is the people out there have no idea what is going on. N says he and Justin laugh just alike. Says we shouldn't do this. Says he had he episodes ago. Ali says she would not do anything AGAIN to hurt anyone on purpose. How was she to know she was going to meet Nate.N- it is the accent. N- you are too cool. N says A is like his Ex but will not tell he how. (lots of cuddling and quick kisses}

F4 is Dana and Justin on the couch cuddling.

Justareader

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 01:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Been snuggling and stuff continual forehead,neck kissing.
nathan: what do you think your ex will think? whispers- and
ali - the boyfreind has dumped me about 6 episodes.
now talking about how she doesn't want to hurt anyone intentionally
he plays with her hair -
ali- how was I supposed to know I would meet you.
nate- i know all about you - girlfriends like you
whispers.
more pillow talk about how he should tell her everything.
whispers about other HG's trying to get together dave and amanda (ed. maybe whispers are hard to hear)

Deedee

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 01:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
F1 - Nate and Ali intoxicated in bed together in HoH.
N you are not going to try to get people to hate me are you.
Ali is teasing N. N says Ali is vicious. Says they both know.
Ali says he is smart but not that smart.

Nate says did you get that close-up camera nods yes.

Nate is paranoid. A complains about noise from other room. A says that N is freaking out. He says he just knows how she is when she gets mad. A wants to know why he thinks she will get mad at him. He said sleeping in the same bed w/mich when Hoh is over. She said that is where I am sleeping. {missed alot}

Ali says that they should not talk for a while. N says is that what you want?
N- we can't let anyone know. wants to hang w/ Ali when this is over.
A- if one of them has 1/2mil to share.
N- we are the first to hook up on BB4.
Drunk ali wispering ... nothing is real... she did not sign up to get hurt. N- Me neither. A- has to be the pretty blonde. This will never work so lets makeout. N- is a good snuggler. She has high expectations for him.

... N cracked a joke
N we are too much alike.
A you seem pretty pissy, I don't like moody boys. Maybe we should stop now.
N 'k

Still snuggling soft breathing.

Deedee

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
F1 - Nate and Ali intoxicated in bed together in HoH.
A- would you be more comfortable if we talked strat?
A- You may be alright outside of this game.
N- you cuss too much
A- I didn't come here to be your wife.
N- we are doooooommmed!
A- your parents are going to say you kissed the Devil girl. I am going to get you disowned.
A- I may not be able to take being called a who** but I have a sense of hummor.

Long wet loud kissing.
]
N- no you didn't
N- I never made out on national TV
A- we should consider ourselves lucky.

(N is on his stomach, she is laying on his back.) He says he sayed her a$$ first week.

Timed out posting.

Deedee

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
N- I have to guard myself w/ you. I told you outside today.
A- If this is the last time your are going to hold me you better make it good.
A- Its only been aweek
N- sounds like 10 people out there
( He is laying on top of Ali now) wispering...
smaking, kissing, after a long kiss Nathan looks at the camera and say "did you get that one"

giggling

N- you are too funny. 10ys ... most eligible batchelor.
A- Make me throw up.
N - It is a national Tv show.
A- Why do I have to leave.
N- to play the game.
A- this stinks, you don't trust.
N- you are not so great yourself( kiss, kiss, kiss)
N - I am not a bad kisser.
A- You are great.
N- you are emotionaly unstable, it is not your fault you we born like that.
A- You f###er, you are supposed to be a good christian but you are mean.
The above is very playful pillowtalk

(Now under the covers heads covered. Kissing sounds and camera sounds.)

More kissing and moving covers.

<posting while they kiss>

Justareader

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
feed 4 robert, justin, jee
dana just went to bed.
Robert talking about getting girls into bed. specifically getting amanda in bed that he has 3 nights. she is leaving anyway - get on her and she is gone -
Justin - this is gonna be on TV
referring to ali - they are stuck like glue - maybe that is her plan
feed changed to Amanda and dave playing bb
a- y are you being so mean
d - who me? i am not being mean
a - keeps on they are laughing etc its light hearted- as they shoot hoops

Justareader

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
feed 4 amanda and david playing cards
a- it wouldn't work out i am leaving in 3 days
d - so you re a guy?
a - i am not saying that
d - tell me the story
a - i am not telling you the story i don't owe it to ya, but you are dirty - mentioned his actions during the potatoe contest.
more cat and mouse....
d - i have been smiling so much
a - i will bust your ba**s
very fast
the story is humerous....
card playing
d- tell me the story...
back and forth
a - i forgot how it came up, that was key - Jun said something in passing...and then they were talking and J said what's up with you and dave
d- you are a good storyteller (sarcastic)
a - (keeps losing place) and then J says you and dave make a cute couple, J - really everyone says so that ya'll are cute and Am was denying and jun says Ali denies it too,
and J told Am that she thinks it's more david - and david is like I don't get it - we just play cards
and card playing
as dave laughs "i really don't know what you are talking about"
a - this story has nothing to do with strategy and if you wanna run i understand...
and that rob has been coming on to her asking when she wants er massage

feed1/2 ali in bed with justin now (I am listening to D an A .

Deedee

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
ed note
a lot of this is hard to hear. I captured what a could. That is why some of this does not make sense

F3 something is going on on f3 between Dana and Justin but I can't get to it covering F1

N- choice to make
A- it sucks. Can't you just throw me out.
A- if I smell dif you will know what I am thinking of
N- Respect, can't get it back.
N- You need to go sleep w/Justin
A- Good job, you just won. Never had anyone tell me that.
N- Settle down killer
N- it will be diffent now.
A- don't act dif
N- I won't but I will be different.
A- What do you want to do
N- You are so sexy. I can't believe we are doing this.

wisper....

A- Not punching her(????)
N - Why are you getting mad
quieter now.

A- you let ppl get to you so easily. You let me get to you.
N- I don't play games like you
A- I don't either
N-Pffsstt

A - I took my mic off

A- Has Dana got to you?
N- No she hasn't

A- We have to stop this NOW!
N- Why the hurry now?
A- We will continue this when we get out of this house.
N.... tell me

(kissing again)

N laughing. We need to cover ummm me up again.
N you are pretty hot.
N - lskdlsdjflsdkj
A- What
N- Nothing

(More Kissing) Lying side by side arms and legs entwinded. Comforter across their mid-section.

someone will be upset w/ Ali

N- use to our advantage
A- Tell me what to do

(N Lying on ali kissing)
A- kissing me and still scheming
N so
(Completly covered more kissing)
(N moaning, then a loud knock at the door)
N- SHIT

A goes to the door
it was Justin.

someone in the LR - just wanted to see her naked

A- you pu$$Y

She goes into LR. Sits down, Tells Justin and Robert. You woke me up. (she is doing a decent acting job here)

chit chat.

Ali says very sleepily - I lost my mic

BB Alison please put on your microphone

Looks around LR then goes into HoH

She goes in HoH. N is giggling

She plops on bed across N. Both giggling softly.
Lying on him " I want you"
N- What were they asking you
A- unintelligible
N- Go out there and flirt for the game
A- What
N not what I want, what needs to be done

N cracking up. Your ex walked in on Us.
Both cracking up now.

A- bye prince charming

N - do your magic

A- a$$h01e

A -this isn't my mic

turns on ligh

A - lost my ali

A - there is my sweat shirt.

where are the girls are they in bed.

one of you guys woke me up

Deedee

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ali in bed w/ Justin in blue circle room.

A- I can't beleive I fell asleep in there. That bed is so comfortable. It is so big that two people can lay there without touching. One of you has to get Hoh next week so I can sleep in there.

J- Fall asleep w/ me and I will push you in the floor

A- I remember why we broke up

R or Jee - You guys are sick, go to sleep

Ali and Justin are wispering Jee is tossing and turning, camera is zooming.


G'night all, I'm out for the night

Deedee

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
F1 Jack is sitting on side of bed planning w/ his group. David and Amanda are on patio w/ cards but don't seem to be playing.

Justareader

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 03:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee nite guys
d - just won the card game, laughing wanna play again - d everyone is eyballing out here
A - dana wants claw to my eyes out.etc

Ali and justin are talking in bed and stuff - holding hands. she is snuggling him.

D and A d- I am a marked man - Ama - I am trying to help you out... card shuffling so, hangin with you doesn't makes me more of a marked man...Girls are jealous - you are the only one not being totally available and I am giving you attention and they are trying to get on all the guys....all the dudes are jealous and that's why Ro is trying to get with you and give you a massage.
Am - what were ya'll saying while the girls were on the hammock - tell me. what were you saying? seriously - you are not gonna tell me?
You and the boys are so tight.
It was about body parts, Da- I seriously don't remmeber everyone had there own preferences.
A - you won't tell if I say your preferences?
D - correct -
A - why won't you tell?
etc ect
A is guessing - will you tell me i am righ?
d - go shoot I will tell you
A -erika's boobs or alison's - its hard - on and on along this line. I don't know man - its exhaustin...
d - are you giving up?
am - tell me... how was I the highlight
d - you are looked upon highly

hope someone can continue.... gotta rest....

Azriel

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 03:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Camera 1

Following Jack into the bathroom. Tinkle sounds.
~big whooshing flush~ no hand washing. Walks in room with Erika...oh oops he remembers and goes back and washes hands. Now back in room with Erika

Jack asks what time it is and Erika says about 2:30 and Jack says not that bad. Looks like they are going down for the night.

Jack asks Erika if her throat is okay and if she is taking anything for sinuses. She says throat is okay and no not taking anything.

Jack says they should have started all over chest game and Erika asks how she got beat so fast. Jack said he doesn't know because he isn't a good chest player but something went wrong.

Jack said it's hard being around so many young girls because he has nothing in common with them. Erika said she feels the same way especially now that Scotty is gone. Erika says even the guys... you know? Jack says yeah they are young guys. Erika says they were mixing and matching our body parts, I can't believe I'm here. This is so stupid. Jack says it's numbing.

Erika sighs and is looking up at the ceiling thinking.

Azriel

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 03:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Camera 1

Jack and Erika in bed

Erika says she is wondering if she can talk to Robert and tell him or somehow...talk to him about the fact that... Erika breaks off and says here comes somebody...continues saying that Dana is lying to him. Jack asks if Robert will hear her out. Erika says she will stir up the pot if he doesn't. Jack says you just don't talk to Robert at all do you? Erika says uhuh He says I've seen you just walk right by him several times.


Jack says he doesn't know how much influence Robert has with Justin. He said nominating you is what he wants to do. He said Nate is breathing down his back and he will really create some mischief if he nominates David and Nate. He figures that Michelle would vote with Nathan and if they put Michelle and David up she would be more than a decoy, it would take two votes away from us. (lots of theoretical talk that I'm having trouble following my sound and picture keep messing up)

Auntie

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 04:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
short paraphrase - amanda and dave on patio playing cards and talking, heard amanda say
i'm not coming on to you, but.." then my feeds locked up.

came back, and nathan had joined them, they were talking about what a nut case dana is, how dana is burning herself out trying to find out where everyone is and who they are with every minute.

nathan says - she's in the hoh every five minutes, she's driving me crazy. amanda and dave agree dana is totally paranoid and making a lot of strategy mistakes, her behaviour has everyone nuts and she isn't fooling anyone with all of her lying.

the three of them decide to play horse on bb court. long game, nathan wins, amanda wants a sandwich, nathan wants to wake up jun at least, he wants to play tricks on people.

now they have moved into kitchen. talk about how hungry they are, nathan prefers chunky peanut butter.

i'm off and back to bed now.

Auntie

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 04:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
well, nathan has gone to wake someone up. amanda wants jun. nathan doesn't know where she is. nathan goes in and crawls in bed with girls.

nathan is rubbing on jun now, trying to get her to wake up. dana wants them to go away.

david and amanda are eating sandwiches in kitchen.

nathan tells girls david beat him in horse. jun throws leg over nathan's butt. dana is waking up now, says she thought she was dreaming.

jun says what did she call you? she called you nathan? he says that is his name, who did she think he was, justin?

she is laughing loud now, they all are. nathan is taken aback, really taken aback.

nathan says she is pretty friendly for not knowing who he was.

he says he can't sleep, he tried for an hour. dana says she thought she put him to sleep with her head rubbing.

jun remarks she was dreaming about justin.

nathan rubs inside of jun's thighs with foot, jun slaps him and says stop with the toes.

nathan says amanda and dave are hooking up.

now they wonder what amanda and dave are up to. nathan says didn't you know all this stuff would go on at night when you were asleep.

nathan's boy is standing at attention, he covers it with hat and then says he is going to sleep in there tonight and pulls covers over himself.

jun says scott has probably put a bowling ball through his teevee by now, and if he is watching dave and amanda now, oh man..

dana suggests nathan sleep between the two of them. she says she is scared to go pee because she doesn't know what's going on out there.

dana asks what possessed jun to get on top of him like that, she laughs.

jun says she doesn't know what she was dreaming, nathan says she was dreaming about him, she says no..

now they say that they can't believe nathan lost at horse, and he remarks again that it's too hot in his room.

dana says she doesn't think it's that hot, he suggests she go try it out.

dana says she can't believe jun thought he was justin. nathan says whatever, she was still humping his leg.

jun says this house is crazy, you have to be nuts to survive.

dana changes subject, says she has such a deep cut in her finger.

dana reaches over and starts rubbing on nathan, jun says it's not me, it's her, and laughs, tells dana not to do that.

dana says she has to pee, she is getting up, but don't take her spot.

nathan asks jun to rub his back, she complies.

nathan says what's going on, she says they have infrared on them right now, she's rubbing his back and it's all quiet. nathan asks if she hears the camera focusing.

jun says she needs some sleep there will be some kind of competition tomorrow.

nathan says he's getting up now, she and dana have a good time... he gets up, jun says thanks for the treat.

Azriel

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 04:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 4

Amanda, Nate and David in Kitchen Just came in from outside. They talk about waking up people and Nate says he is going to go wake up people Camera follows him in to girls bedroom, he wakes up Alison by climbing on top of her. She raises up and says what the hell are you doing? He tells her that Amanda told him to come wake her up. Now he rolls up on top of Jun and tells her that he needs some lovin. Camera goes back to David and Amanda in kitchen eating midnight snacks. They are wondering which cameras are looking at them. Pointing at all of them. Amanda says that one is on me it's just pretending not to be. Now they are playing with the camera man. Amanda is moving around trying to hide and the camera is following her. Amanda asks if it's a different camera man controlling all the cameras. David said no that one can control more cameras. They go on shifts. Amanda keeps asking about cameras. Amanda thinks it has to be more than one guy and is just fascinated that the camera follows her. David said he is sitting in front of a console and he can move them all. David talking to camera man, We got you, buddy.

Amanda tossed paper towel roll at David. He says he didn't see that coming and he looks through the toilet paper roll likes it's a telescope. Amanda says David is going to laugh but she is going to be honest with him. She says here's what we should do. She said when you are done goofing off with what ever you are doing do you want to stage a fight? He says,' shut up you ••••' (joking with her) She laughs and says we would really be good at this. She says she can act like she is crying. She said if she laughs hard enough she looks like she is crying.

Amanda drinking coffee right now while David gets water from cooler. She asks are you alright Dave? Are you sure? David talking about Orbit commercials. Amanda likes the commercials, too.

They go back outside to play cards again and Amanda says do you really think you are going to beat me? He said he thinks so. He asks if she thinks he was bad talking to Nate and Amanda says well of course he agrees with us but that doesn't mean he isn't in there telling her now.
David says well he doesn't suspect He said he asked Nate what do you think about her doing what she is doing? Amanda says that Dana wants everyone to follow in her footsteps and not use the veto. She says that's stupid they might as well eliminate the veto then.
(crud, my feed messing up again)
David says he thinks sometimes here is better to put something out in the open to get someones reaction. David says he can read people by their mannerisms. He says everyone is already targeted so it can't get any worse. Amanda asks who do you think is targeted. Dana walks through the kitchen and David says look who is up? He said she is walking through covering her nipples. He said why do women do that? We know you have nipples. Amanda talking about Dana's tone. David tells her that she is walking by the window again. Amanda says, what? you think she can hear me? David says no I don't think so. David says to Amanda, You are one of those girls that don't have a lot of chick friends? Amanda says yeah I only have a few. She says her friends are cool and they don't do the petty bullshit that they are having to put up with in the house.

Amanda says that she thinks Dana pretends to be the cool girl but she is not. She says I think she is sweet but she is pretending. David asks she is trying to pretend to be what? She says she is trying to be everything to everybody . Amanda says you can't be the sorority girl the cheerleader the mom you can't be everything. You can't tell people not to do something and then do it yourself.

David making silly noises and Amanda tells him he is just full of it. David says he thinks the girls are jealous of Amanda. He says she always get compliments from the guys for not looking in the mirror and primping and that she doesn't try to outdo the other girls but ends up looking hotter than them. He says it sucks that they are like that. Amanda says she hates that Michele says she is fat and the other girls are giving her a complex saying all she ever does is eat. Amanda says what is that doing for them to give her a complex is it making them feel better? She says she has tried to tell Michelle its okay no need to worry about her weight.

(damn feed frozen)

Eeksy

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 04:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
David, Amanda, and Nate playing HORSE at about 4 AM. Nate grabs the early lead, then David comes on strong and wins. Amanda holds her own, though she came in last. [The guys are obviously in to her, playing mostly to show off their stuff to impress the woman]. Nate goes inside to wake up Jun. Dave and Amanda fix themselves PB&J sandwiches and eat them in the kitchen. A lot of giggling, then they head oustide.

David and Amanda playing cards alone outside.

They see Dana got up to run to the kitchen and they figure she's checking up on them, since they're up at 4:30. They're pointing out that she's majorly insecure and jealous of other girls in the house, for example Michelle, always trying to be her Mom, etc. Amanda is like, what's with that. Dave - Girls have nipples, deal with it. She doesn't need to be walking around making sure that Michelle dresses appropriate at all times.

Amanda - I think Dana just tries to be this cool girl, and she's not. You can't be cool girl, and you can't be karate girl, and you can't be mom, like at the same time.

David - I think the girls are like jealous of you. Cos you're not looking at the mirror every 5 minutes, and not primpin' all day. [and basically tells her the guys think she's the hottest in the house, because she looks good without all that]

Now talking about Michelle/anorexia

Amanda - You don't give a 19 year old a complex about her weight when she's like adorable. I'm like Michelle, who cares you had 2 pieces of chocolate. There's no need for her to be watching her weight. And Jun's like, oh yeah, 2 pieces of chocolate can be it, can do that to you.

Jdctexas

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 05:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 1 & 2: Sleeping HG

Cam 3 & 4: Dave and Amanda having an open discussion.

Dave and Amanda still up @ 5:00 BBT

Amanda thinks she'll be gone because of the girls.

Amanda: "There needs to be something to break up the girls: Dana, Jun, Alison and Michelle. They act like angels, but have turned into little demons." (Ed note: Those are Amanda's words, not mine.)

Dave: "Yeah."

Now talking Erika and Robert. Niether one wants to talk to each other. Robert has a daughter and according to Amanda, didn't really want to have it known. When a HG (Dana) asked about his daughter, Robert knew who it said something.

Dave: If I go out next week, it will be because Erika and she won't last long.

Both agree that Nate is smart and using the girls in some way. Both also rag on Erika for the way she's playing the game. David thinks everyone has to be smart enough to be here. He also has a hard time trusting people in the house.

A: Do you trust me?

Dave laughs, stumbles on his words: Who do you trust 100%? I just know that everyone saying "I'll hook up with anyone and backstab to get on the show. Now that we're here, no one wants to do it." Points out that most people in previous years who had "teams" fell apart and were gone.

Dave: I've made a lot of friends in my life. There are few that I trust. I'm not going to trust people I know barely know.

Dave and Amanda talking about Scott and humor. Dave admits that Scott made him laugh. Amanda and Dave thought the chair tossing was a joke.

A: I saw a smirk on his face
D: Me to. I thought he was joking.

Now talking about the other women's over reaction. Erika and Dana in particular. Dave wants to get a hold of Scott after the show. Thinks deep down inside he's a good, funny guy.

Dave admits he's a coniver. He says he doesn't hook up with one person here and try to ride it to the end.

A: Sometime you catch me of guard?
D: How
A: Sometimes I can't tell is you're BSing to BS. (Stumbles on words) I don't know...what every.
D: (Jokingly) Alright...change of subject.
Both laugh.

(Ed: Got to go to work. Hope someone is catching this convo!)

5:21am BBT - Posting.

Lostintheglades

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 05:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Feed 4 5:21 am BB Time

Just got here....David and Amanda havin a early morning pow wow.

David asking amanda if she trusts anyone. Amanda says no...she doesn't trust anyone.

He has been working her pretty hard it seems.

D - Do I make you uncomfortable talking about this.

A - No...I really don't know what you're talking about.

D - I didn't mean to catch you off guard.

D - I just had Deja Vu again...that's twice now.

D - Says when he busted his head on the bag the other day it was the first Deja Vu.

Amanda asked him if he thinks he had a concusion

Amanda is talking in circles. Says she can't talk to him anymore...No I think you.....no...I just.....dropping her sentences.

D has the impression I got is that you have the mind set that you're going to go. If he honestly thought she was a threat that he wouldn't be talking about. (Ed...I have not idea what's going on here as I missed a lot of it evidently. Hope someone got the first part of this.)

Amanda is afraid to say anything about anything. Says she's afraid of how he's going to react.

Amanda keeps saying it's not a big deal (?)..David says it is.

D - you can be honest with me, but before you start blowing smoke up my a**...

Amanda says she wouldn't stay up this late with Dana or Jun because she knows it would all be bull.

David said he feels foolish saying he'd like to see her outside the house without her thinking it was just about the game. It upsets him that because he was more open about how he is in here it messed things up. He doesn't want her to think he just full of bull and that upsets him because he thinks she does think he's just full of bs.

A - I thought you were a cool guy and she enjoyed talking to him..but him saying something reminded her of all the stuff she thought of when she first came into the house. She came in thinking a certain way and that's not always the way it works out. She didn't come in thinking she'd find someone she cared about. She see's people crying and she doesn't want to have to cry because
the other girls are crying just so she fits in.
David said he's all bullshit and Amanda had thought he was genuine so now she's not sure what to think about him.

Amanda saw him acting funny, but she saw a sincere side to him...and something he said to her made her feel like the sincere side was just bs and made her question herself and her opionion of him.

Lost feed....

Kira33

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 05:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
A: I'm not gonna sit here and continue to feed it to you...continue to bullshit like it's something I enjoy...
D: I enjoy f--g talking to you...you're the only person in here I can actually relate to...I don't expect you to trust me 100% either..I dunno...I notice that you laugh at my jokes....
(my feeds timed out)
A: Anyway that I'm wording it - it's like why am I bothering....I'm not gonna sit out here and talk to f--g Dana or Justin about...bulls***...you know what? Forget it. I can't explain it...
D: You're not crazy I didn't mean to...
A: No, I don't, whatever, I don't care...
D: I f--g, alright, whatever....before you start blowing smoke up my as*...I don't know what I was gonna say, I forgot
A: Alright, whatever. What? What were you gonna say? Before I blow smoke up your as* - say it.
D: I feel really like boyish and stupid sitting here going "OH, I really dig you, I want to hang out sometime after this - not to get a relationship going after this but you know, ....I just, there's just no way of me like, I don't know how to say that, I don't know how to express that except by totally showing interest in everything you say....it just..I dunno, it just really pisses me off because I was just a little more open about how I am in here - it just totally f--g everything up.....I don't want you to think that's why I'm out here talking to you (that's the vibe I get from you)...does that make sense at all? Kind of?
A: Like I said before (before you blow smoke up my as*) - what did you think
D: I thought you were just gonna sum everything up...I don't know what you do
A: Did I react differently? Yeah, I apologize ...I'll be honest, I thought you were a cool guy..you saying that you know, I dunno...I guess you saying all that just kinda reminded me of how I thought/felt when I came in
D: So you're a really evil person and you're telling me that....it makes me evil because you're evil
(missed convo)
A: I didn't come in attempting to NOT meet anyone I enjoy, but I also didn't anticipate it - b/c it's a f--g show....I told the producers I'm gonna have to go to the bathroom and pretend to cry...b/c everyone else in the house is fake....makes me want to throw up....so like finding someone I think is cool in this house
But then to see you go "No this whole thing is f--g bs
I'm not saying word for word, I'm saying I think it was a combination of like I think the same way you think....It kind of made me think of what I was doing, maybe it was more about me...I dunno, no I mean maybe you know when you said it it was like...f***, what am I doing? You know...I just thought - you know, whatever...I dunno...I can't explain it
D: Normally..I dunno...I mean normally
A: I felt there was a whole other side of you that was serious...you've displayed some sort of character...but you saying that to me made me feel like you don't give a sh** about anything - that kind of rubbed me the wrong way.
D: I'm glad you said that....I don't think I got weird like you got...I dunno, you got f--g weird...(the look) on your face...(gives analogy about cookies)..that whole look, that's the vibe
A: I didn't look like that
D: No but your mannerisms - the way you're acting -
A: I became a little standoffish..you're gonna tell me A, you don't trust me and B,.....if I sat here and was like, "You know Dave, I don't trust anyone in this house and like..."
D: I can see why you reacted to it in that way...I can but.. I'm just f--g uneducated when I'm putting my words together...
A: It was just a matter of like..I dunno, I don't know why I took it too personally..I just...I think you're just a dic* (laughs)
D: It's cool
A: You're just like - "What the fu** just happened?"...I honestly don't know....I'd be in my bed right now (if I thought it was bs)...(missed some of the convo)
D: That's my focus, I didn't want it to come out that way, that's not what I was projecting
A: No, totally...I mean, I shouldn't really care at all...it makes me laugh that you say that my face reacted, that you say I reacted to it...it's just like, I dunno...I think it's me thinking that you're one way and maybe you're not - I'm second guessing what I think about you, and do I really want to continue this conversation..no offense.
D: You know, you're - I dunno, man...like I know my intentions..I know I didn't - it wasn't, I didn't want to come off being like I don't trust you, the only reason I'm talking to you is just to bs you - that's not the way I want it to come off - you can't know and you won't know....unless I talk to you outside of this because no matter what I say you're gonna be like Dave....
A: That I respect...I just think that
D: There's no one else I'd tell that to
A: Because of the game...you don't care about - you're bullshi**ing if you say you are - you wuoldn't have told me if I wasn't leaving and that to me only - it seems a little fake now..
D: I'm not gonna pretend - you're not going anywhere...all of our talk has been straightforward...except the past 20 min of me backpeddling
A: It's nothing to do with me - it has nothing to do with the game...it just annoyed me
D: You're an awesome chick, if I said chick I don't mean to offend you...and I'd like to f--g, continue, get to know you or whatever kinda I dunno man, continue this conversation or something so that you will - Dave's sincere or whatever...I think you - I think what you think you know about me is correct...until I said that shi* or whatever...until then it's gonna be a little weird like this - this is really weird, and this is all on tv, that's the worst part - for 2 hours, they've been talking for 2 hours..
A: What's gonna continue to be weird?
D: THIS
A: You're gonna not trust me for....I won't tell you any secrets
D: You don't have to tell me any secrets
A: That was my biggest mistake was telling you, that's what ruined it...I told you that uh, what jun was talking about and I think it made you freak out, that's what I think
D: I don't understand
A: I know you don't
D: Why would that make me freak out?
A: For a number of reasons - I'm just messing with you....I dunno, maybe you thought I was telling you too much...I'm analyzing it b/c I just talked to you for 3 hrs and you just looked me in the eye and were like...
D: I don't take anything serious
A: You're telling me that shouldn't bother me?
D: I thought you'd decipher from our conversation that....I'm talking about this (wider picture), and you're talking about this
A: I took it as I read you wrong and it made me look like a f--g as*hole....dave's cool but he's possibly more conniving than...I should've thought about that before...play cards with you for 4 hours
D: Wow....
(laughing)
A: You not understanding it - now I feel like I have to explain it....it' just bs, it's not a big deal...you're a big dic* and I wasted a night talking to you
D: Honestly, I felt....that
A: I also recall you saying that you don't intend on seeing anyone outside of this house, I'm like don't bs me....there's way too much bs going on in this house....maybe it's just...I dunno maybe I reacted too much I'm just saying...you don't have to explain, I'm just telling you so you can understand...
D: I want to explain coz I don't want you thinking that - walking away thinking this is all bs, I dunno....
A: No,
D: I wanted to say so many times that we should get together afterwards - how do I say that in here, when we know no one is gonna see each other....we talk about it like it's gonna happen...(missed some)
I just enjoy talking with you, and I enjoy you're f--g sense of humor and....
A: From my point of view though, why would I think that - it's just such bs, like, my whole point is like...
D: Why would you think it would be fake if we were talking like that?
A: If you said it prior to opening your soul of darkness to me....
D: Basically just digging myself into a huge f--g pit
A: Now that you're like it's all bs, I'm like - I dunno...I'm just - maybe I...
D: I think I said the wrong f--g thing and you took it to the extreme that you could've taken it to
A: I didn't take anything to any extreme. I think you reacted to my reaction and YOU took it to the extreme.
D: The rest of the conversation would have been like alright Dave....I didn't want it to be like that, I wanted
A: I'm thinking...you know, "I want to hang out with you afterwards but how do I say it" - maybe you DID mean it to me, but dude, you already....I don't even know how to finish this
D: I don't know either - what are we talking about? Are we married? What is this? What just happened?

(this was a really bizarre and confusing conversation!)

Wearywatcher

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 05:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Amanda and Robert have continued outside playing cards and talking about the HGs.
Robert says Dana is an instigator and Amanda thinks Erika was responsble for her nomination.
Amanda thinks Erika is seriously playing the game but suspects her 3 crying spells have been wierd. She was critical of the "girls" (Dede and Ali and Jun) who have been coaching Michelle about her weight and behavior and then they dress just like her. Amanda said they are jealous and are trying to control a vulernable younger girl. Robert trashing the girls as well.