Archive through July 12, 2003
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July 12, 2003 - Day 8 - Scott gets kicked out.:
Archive through July 12, 2003
Justin42 | Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 11:35 am     after a few minutes of general chit-chat in the kitchen, they come back to Jack, Erika, Dave... Jack thinks Justin and Nate are very charming, but as far as he can tell, they're going to ride with the original plan and get rid of the exes first (ed: uh oh..). Jack isn't sure he'd want to vote out Justin and evict him, he's a strong player. Jack will talk to Robert today to see what's going on. Robert always seems to have a destination when walking; he walks with a purpose. Jack just meanders around. Erika wonders where his (Robert's) head is, wonders if she shouldn't just make up with him. She doesn't know why he won't even talk to her. Jack notices how standoffish he is around her. Erika says she can't believe he gave him the chance to win "five-hundra-thousaaa-dollaaaas!" Jack is sure he'll thank her; Erika says she's already brought it up. Jack thinks Jee is a nice guy, Erika agrees. They both really like him. FOTH for a split second. Jack ponders what he should eat this morning. Erika says an egg omellete with mushrooms and cheese onions, basil, and tomatos. (oops, Dave just walked back in) They figure out the potatoes are starting to stink. (I guess Dave came in and was smelling, he leaves) Jack realises that they haven't made any baked potatos with all the potatoes they have, Erika reminds him that they have no toppings. Jack likes his baked potatos totally plain, Erika can't believe that. Jack doesn't want to tie up the stove for 1.5 hours. Erika says he could zap them (Microwave) but Jack has never had success with that. Dave walks back in. starts squeeling (not singing) "moooore than a afeeeeeeeling" and they FOTH for a second. Conversation goes back to baked potatos, Jack asks what Dave puts on his, Dave likes (..?). Erika puts sour cream, butter, chives on hers. Jack's going to go "coffee up", Erika's going to join him. Jack's had trouble getting back up, blames Dave (?). Jack and Dave walk out, Erika groggily sits up. Jack greets Justin, says he (Jack) is wandering around aimlessly like his career is. Conversation goes BACK to potatos, Jack is saying how he likes his plain and seems to be feeling out the group if he could tie up the stove. He's talking to Jun about potatos, Jun says they'd like mashed but don't have the stuff. (ok, now Justin is going over microwaving potatos.. as thrilling as this all is, I think I'll post...) |
Watcher | Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 11:49 am     Jee, Jun, Jack and Justin standing around kitchen counter discussing baking potatoes. Jee is dressed in black shorts and black tank top, making PB & J sandwich. Jun is wearing green top with the word Dairy printed in white across front. Now Scott comes in, making PB& J on a tortilla. Looks like jelly jar is almost empty. He is scraping it and shaking it. Other HG's coming in and out...just chitchatting, making themselves something to eat or drink. Alison is at sink in 2 piece bikini washing dishes, hair pulled back in ponytail. Jack is wearing tan slacks and a red shirt, wandering around kitchen. Jee says he was going to do the dishes. Alison says that's okay...she already has them. Jee says he likes doing dishes...it makes him feel special. Laughter. Alison tells him she will let him put them away when she is done....he says that is fine. Justin, shirtless and in shorts is at stove cooking something in a skillet...not sure what...maybe potatoes...can't tell. FOTH for a sec |
Ocean_Islands | Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 11:53 am     Robert just did seven pull-ups (real ones). Nathan is incapable of doing a real one, up to the chin, since he is so muscle-bound, but he did give it a good five tries. Then he went back up and did five more tries, still no real one though. Robert went back and did two more. Then Nathan went and did five or so more, but the cam showed that Robert was lifting his legs up! LOL |
Watcher | Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 11:59 am     Cams 1 & 2 Nathan and Robert outside working out, both shirtless and in white cutoffs...all discussion on their workout routine. Cam 3 Alison standing at counter sipping coffee and eating something. Erica, in sunglasses and long-sleeved purple (I think) pullover top, hair pulled back in ponytail standing across from her. Says another day in the big brother house. Jack I believe says it has been one week now. Michelle, also with hair in ponytail and dressed in brown and white animal print looking bikini sitting at kitchen table eating something from a bowl. |
Watcher | Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 12:13 pm     Talk in kitchen about foods they miss. Someone wishing they had pizza. Joking about putting out a call to Domino's...wonders if they would deliver to the BB House. (Laughter) Scott is dressed in tan shorts, a white sleeveless tee shirt and a dark knit hat with light stripe around it, pulled down over head. Justin asks Scott if he would like to have some hash browns (guess that is what he was cooking). Scott passes this time, but says they were great the last time he made them. Justin says he did some cooking at home when he was growing up....his mom worked and sometimes he would just get things started before she got home to help out the family. Dana comes into kitchen now in ponytail and bikini, says the potatoes smell pretty d**n good, stands at kitchen counter tasting them. Erica says they are pretty d**n good, aren't they? Dana says h**l yeah. Eats a few, drinks something from a glass and heads outside. Erica moves to door, looks outside and says, here we are...seemingly to herself. She is standing at window now, coffee cup in front of her, just leaning and looking out, as if in thought for a few minutes. |
Watcher | Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 12:29 pm     Jack tells Justin he thinks he is going to go work out now after eating his potatoes. (laughs) All those carbs, he says. Several HG's standing around kitchen talking about the competitions. Thinks they will separate them individually soon instead of doing group competitions all together. Cam 2 - Backyard A couple of guys are standing in the pool...Scott is one of them....I think David is the other one. Amanda is laying beside the pool on a towel, sunning herself in what looks like black shorts and a bikini top. Scott says I can see up your panties. Amanda raises a leg up and Scott says brings back memories. Amanda gets up and leaves. As she is walking away, Scott says nicely shaved...nicely groomed. (don't think she was wearing anything *that revealing) Cam now moves back to kitchen....Jun, Dana, Justin and Erica, standing around eating and chitchatting. |
Watcher | Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 12:33 pm     All 4 cams are on kitchen area now, but nothing important going on or being said....just general chat. (taking a short break) |
Ryn | Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 01:04 pm     Nathan, Alison, Justin, and Jee plotting. Talking as if Alison should go out Nathan is making suggestions Scott/David nominations for next week. Nathan says maybe he should go to scott and tell him to chill out - and then put him up next week. Justins says if he gets it he might put up Erika and Michelle because he knows Erika would put him up. <posting and will try to continue...> |
Ryn | Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 01:13 pm     Nathan goes to desert room and talks to Erika and Jack He tells them that others want Scott gone - and that Dana wants to use the veto to get him nominated and he is the only one stopping him. He says Jun and Scott got into it last night. Jack asks if he thinks Scott can be "rehabilitated" - if not then they might need to consider it. Jack says that in the house it is disruptive to go after people to try to get a reaction... FOTH Alison has joined them... Nathan says the Veto is Sunday. So now its Nathan, Jack, Erika and Alison. Nathan says he is sick of people coming up and complaining to him about him. Jack suggests that Nathan should go talk to him because people look to him as a leader. THen Erika says if Justin or Robert get HoH next week they might not have to break their word - that they would put up Scott (Ed - Nathan meanwhile knows Justin and Robert will put up Erika) Nathan says that maybe they should just let it play out. Nathan says he has control of Michelle - not to worry about her. Jack says maybe they should wait a bit since they have a day yet. |
Ryn | Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 01:18 pm     Jack asks ALison - she says that she doesn't like breaking her word - that they should wait and see what happens next week - now Nathan agrees and says that people are breathing down his back. Nathan says its Dana breathing down his back - that she and Scott are butting heads. Nathan says he thinks Scott really tries but his chemical imbalance causes problems. They feel they trust Scott. Nathan - "I don't want to do anything behind your guy's back" THe decision reached is to wait a week and not evict Scott this week. Of course Dana is not in on this conversation but Nathan feels he can convince her. Jack "its already been a week and we are eating our young, we got to hold together" Erika and Jack alone - "dana is a problem. posting |
Cameltoes | Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 01:20 pm     Nate, Allison, Jack, Erika discussing Scott and the fact that Dana want him out. Nate - The veto is on Sunday. Dana wants him out. I'm the only one stopping her. Jun would put him up I can put up with the guy but I'm tired of everyone bitching about him Jack - I've talked to him but he really doesn't realize... Nate - I used to have his temper but I've learned to control it... Nate - I just wanted to talk to everyone about it because I made a promise to you guys and I want to stick to that Erika - The Exes are going to come after us We might not even have to break our word. Whoever gets HOH is going to decide it... If Justin gets HOH.. he'd probably put him up Nate - Justin... I think if he was HOH he wants to put up Michelle.. someone whose not a liability Nate - why don't we all agree that if he's on the block, we all vote him out. At the most he would have one vote (Dave) if he was put on the block. We should just let him be put on the block by an Ex and we still have the numbers so we are still solid. One of them will be gone.. We don't have to worry abot Michelle... I can take care of Michelle. Erika - if he gets put up and doesnt leave, all hell will break loose Nate - I guarantee that if he's on the block he'd go Jack - if not for Dana and Jun's feelings would you want him put up Nate - I can handle him... but I really think he's going to be put up in the next couple of weeks Allison - I don't like him... but I don't really feel right about breaking our pact. I really think that Justin or one of those guys is going to put him up. Nate - I was telling Dana.. if she does anything now, she's just making things bad for herself Outside of this house, I probably would be banging heads with Scott but in here... it's different... Jack - that's the thing.. this house.. Nate - he has a chemical imbalance... Jack - he could very well contribute to our HOH win.. Nate - do you guys honestly trust him Erika - yes Jack - Yes, he makes a point to come around to us and make sure we're all still together Nate - Like I said.. I just wanted to talk to you all.. not do anything behind your backs Erika - Just tell Dana that she's only putting herself in a bad position.. Nate - that's what I tell her.. everything will work out.. just take it week by week Jack - its only been a week and we are already eating our young.. Just got to hold it together |
Ryn | Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 01:28 pm     Missed some... Jack and Erika have been talking to Alison - about why scott needs to stay. That he is important to the teeam - that he is strong. Now Dana - who was in the HoH talking to Jun (but I had no audio) - she sits down and talks to the other 3 now in the desert room. Jack explains to Dana.... "who gives a rats ass whose nerves he gets on (not in a bad way)" He reminds Dana how he played the 1st HoH game on the couch and decided not to be in the pairings. He says he is very smart - thinking way ahead of the game. Dana says she won't use the veto unless someone (nathan) tells her to use it. Still Jack, Erika, Alison, and Dana in the desert room. They are breaking up and conversation turns to the turtles. |
Cameltoes | Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 01:29 pm     Erika, Jack, Allison.. Erika - Dana is not to be trusted... Her downfall is that she is too emotional.. she's too aggressive [feed timed out] Jack - the thing is that Nate is a strong guy.. he's got these beliefs.. the key competition is next week. Someone's got to beat Justin.. Scott is very intutitive... He knew he'd be the one picking the winner of that last HOH Dana comes in Dana - there's a part of me that we have to honor the original plan but he creates such an uncomfortable vibe. Erika - if you use the veto, you're putting yourself out there as a target Jack - who gives a rats ass whose nerves he gets on. We need him. In the last HOH, he knew right away that he'd be the one picking the HOH. He's intuitive. He has this well he can tap. I like being around New Yorkers... I like you.. I think you are funny as hell.. Dana - I hate to consider him a NY'er.. he's just vile... I can have attitude too.. but.. [whispering] Don't worry about me.. I won't use the veto.. he just has to think he's part of... |
Aitch | Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 01:30 pm     Jack - Nate is a guy of his word. He's got strong beliefs Ali - We need Scott to compete Jack - Scott has great instincts. He knew that he was going to pick the winner in the HoH competition. Dana comes in. Dana - I just gotta know what is going on. I feel like we have to honor the original plan. But, Scott just makes me so uncomfortable sometimes. Erika - You would be putting yourself up as a target. Jack - Scott is wearing everybodies nerves. But, who gives a rats a**. We need him. Recounting the HoH competition again. I know he is disruptive in here. He makes me laugh-he doesn't bother me. Dana - He got this vile thing going on sometimes. Sometimes he could be great. Everybody could have their bad moments. First of all I wont use the veto. So, don't worry about me. jack - Nate is strong. And, we gave Scott our word. To me the 8 of us have got to be strong enough to beat Justin. |
Ryn | Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 01:34 pm     Dana goes to talk to Jun - missed it - they were whispering - but she now seems on a mission to talk to someone. (trying to find her) Cam 3 - she is talkign to Nathan - I heard Nathan say "trust me" Nathan is giving her a play-by-play of what he and Alison discussed with Jack and Erika. He keeps referring to Erika and Jack as "they" (ed - as in they are part of another group). Dana tells Nathan that she would never act on it unless he told her too. (ed - background voices making it hard to hear) (posting - gotta go) |
Cameltoes | Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 01:37 pm     Dana & Nate whispering... Dana - why did you tell them I was thinking of using the veto Nate - Because they trust me... and I just wanted to.. Dana - Don't F$%# with me [laughs] Nate - I just told them that you were thinking of using it because he's just getting on everyone's nerves [paraphrased]... I think they feel the same way... they were saying you are making yourself a target if you use the Veto They are saying that if we just talk to him.. If he gets on the block and... [whispering] Dana - Jack was talking about the HOH and how he volunteered because he knew he'd be picking the HOH... I said I'm sticking to the original plan even though he bugs me... I'm not stupid.. I'm going with the majority at this point.. Nate - as long as we are on the same page. He'll be the first to go of all of us... [whispering] It will all work out in the end... You looked mad... Dana - I thought you were dogging me... Nate - I just said you were thinking about using it.. not that you were.. |
Cameltoes | Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 01:44 pm     Erika, Dana Dana - I jsut went to Nate and said that you don't have to worry about me acting on some impulse.. I'm hot tempered but I would never.. Erika - Just think about.. power in numbers.. Dana - I know.. it's way way way too early... I'm just very emotional.. I let things get to me... I'm not stupid.. I certainly won't be the one to break the original pact. There are people who will do it.. it'll happen when it needs to happen.. As long as we are the final 7 Trust me.. I won't start acting impulsively.. Erika - I have a thick skin.. I've been through so much.. stuff like that doesn't get to me... cursing... Dana - it's not even that stuff... it's just the vibe... Erika - Jun just can't stand him.. Dave comes over.. Dave - Girl talk? Dana - we're just alking about how we'll be the final 8 Erika - I just want give a big F#@! you to CBS [Someone] - They'll be gone as quick as they came in Dave - I know there is alot of tension with Scott but it's important that we stick to the final 8... That's all that matters... that's my mission.. |
Cameltoes | Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 01:56 pm     Nate, Jun Nate - I was just saying how everyone in this house can't stand him and they want to put him up Jun - he called me an F'n [rhymes with witch]? Nate - I know he called Dana that Jun - They're [Exes] going after Erika? Nate - Scott first... I'm not getting in the middle of it... I just wanted to ask you because I know you wanted to put him up if you get it.. I'm not going to be the one.. Jun - I'm not going to put him up with the HOH... if someone vetoes... that's when I'd put him up Dana comes in Nate - Dana was gonna beat me up.. Dana - I was gonna whup his blonde ass Nate - As much as we hate to have him here, he's going to help us... Nate - I think it would be better if one of those Exes goes first just so Jack feels... I'd rather Justin go first and then Robert because Robert is going after Erika and no one is going to persuade him otherwise... [whispering] Nate - Just right now it's too risky... [whispering] [Someone] - If he [Scott] goes up, he's definitely out [whispering] Jun - at least we still have something going in.. even if it's fake.. we have the eight.. Dana - it's just the first week Nate - keep them close... I've been talking to Erika.. Dana (?) - what's there to talk about with Erika Nate - Robert.. not a strong competitor... He's going after Erika... We need to stay out of this.. None of the 4 of us should win next week.. we need to be less opinionated... just listen.. and agree with everything.. |
Justin42 | Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 02:35 pm     [really paraphrased feed 1; not sure if anyone's watching this; they're really good whisperers and I have only caught bits and pieces] Nati and Ali in HOH; Nate reading the Bible (Acts 7, from when the camera zoomed in), Ali still in bikini but curled up under a blanket, Nate shirtless on top of bed. (Ali's been complaining how cold it is in the house) Talking about how much Dana really wanted to use the veto but that they've told her not to, that Dana wants to kill him (N) for not using it. They say Dana is "too New York" at times, just like Scott. They want to get Scott out next week. Nate doesn't trust Jack at all. Ali asks how many alliances he [Nate] has; he says too many, then says really only has 1. She said she only has 1 as well. Nate says it's too early in the game to worry too much, to just be careful and let things play out. They both agree Ali CANNOT win HOH this week; let one of the exes win it and put Scott up. Suddenly, Nate starts reading the Bible out loud to Ali; I think it's definite code words. He's telling her she HAS to read verse 18 (about aligning with evil??) [ed: even with the volume all the way up, equalizer at voice, they are nearly impossible to understand] Now Ali starts talking much louder about tongue piercing, as a cover for the whispering she breaks into immediately after. She asks him to read more. He goes looking for a verse. [I'm going to post and see if anyone's around] |
Andiegirl | Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 02:38 pm     Cam 1 & 2 Nate and Ali in laying in HOH, Nate reading Corinthians, says he doesn't know that chapter very well. Nate (reading bible): "Did you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body..." (whispering now can't quite get it) Sounded like "Do you want to prostitute yourself?" whispered by Nate. Then back to quoting the bible "Two will become one flesh. But he who unites himself with the lord is..."(missed it). Nate continues: so you need to read vs. 18. Ali: you need to shut up. Ali: Have you been confirmed? Nate: Mmmm Hmmm |
Justin42 | Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 02:45 pm     Ali looks like she's about to fall asleep, there is occasional chatter but nothing important. Random comments, Ali whining about whatever. Camera angles seem carefully chosen to make them look as close to each other as possible. Ali currently whining about why Nate is always wherever she goes. Feed 2: better sound, different angle. Nate wants out of the HoH room, it's too stressful. I think Nate just said that Justin thinks he runs the show (could be wrong on who he named); Ali said he's always the dictator. Now Ali's complaining it's too hot. (she just complained it was too cold in the house) She's complaining about her microphone, how uncomfortable it is, "I hope you're all enjoying this thing so you can hear this.." [ed: very, very random convo. 5 minutes of random chatter for 30 seconds of plotting.] |
Andiegirl | Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 02:48 pm     Cam 1 and 2 Nate still reading bible laying on belly, shirt off, under covers. Ali RIGHT smacked up against him on her back, also under covers, head turned towards him, eyes most of the time closed. Nate:How awesome would it be to be related to Jesus Ali:I'm sure were all related to him somehow Nate:I'm mean like Ali:Like close relative? Nate:Ya Ali:Immediate family Nate:Ya, hey come on over Ali: Ha ha Whispering Nate: (sarcastically) Please quit obstructing your mic Ali: I hate these mics, so uncomfortable Nate: I'm so ready to get out of this place, being HOH Ali: Why? Nate: Stressful. I don't wanna be in the middle of everything. Nate: Justin thinks he's running the show? A: He does. A: He's always the dictator. (Nathan not attempting to read anymore. Laying facing Ali) A:Stupid ass mic, I gotta make sure yall are hearing this N:Y'all? A: Why are you making fun of me? I even say youse Cam froze Posting |
Bonzacat | Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 02:49 pm     Feed 3 for the past 10 minutes: Dana and David asleep (?) in the hammock. He was rubbing her bare midriff until they drifted. His arm is across her, her head is on his leg.... (ed. I hope they are wearing sunscreen...) |
Justin42 | Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 02:49 pm     Ali: "I'm taking a nap. Don't talk to me, don't touch me, don't look at me." Nate: "Your wish is my command" I think Ali said she wants to win HoH in the next few weeks.. [unintelligible] Nate: "You look at me as a role model, don't you? Do you want an autograph?" Ali: "I'll take your money..." Nate: "You can have my debt, that's what you can have" Nate complains his throat hurts, then finds a verse about the love of money, which he reads to Ali. "People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap..."; "Love of money is the root of all kinds of evil" [I'll try to listen for a little while longer, and post any MAJOR game-related updates, but I can't try to understand this convo and type at the same time, sorry!!] |
Eeksy | Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 02:50 pm     Nate/Ali in HOH bed whispering for the most part while Nate reads bible: Ali raises issue of Dana using veto on Scott. Nate says no way. She agrees. Nate says something to the effect that they should just cool it for now and follow the plan. However, after about 4 weeks, he is going straight after Scott and Erika. Nate - Dana is so paranoid. I mean, I love her to death, but jeez. We should just relax and let things play out. I mean, we can avoid Scott... there's so many rooms in this house. Nate - Jack is such a cool customer. Ali not really saying much, just agreeing with almost everything Nate says. Ali - Why is it so cold in this house!? You're supposed to be reading to me. Now she's resting her head on his arm. He's not ignoring her per se, but he's not giving her the attention she's clearly seeking, just flipping pages in the bible. Ali under the covers now and appears to be nodding off. They giggle a bit and now Nate wants to nod off as well. [Other feeds show Dana and David in hammock together lying in opposite orientations, side by side, David's hand at first caressing Dana's tummy, then gently resting on her tummy/waist as he nods off. His elbow is resting in the vicinity of Dana's even more private area. Both are apparently asleep or close to it] Ali - I hate these microphones, they're so uncomfortable. More giggling, etc., then Nate mentions Dana again. She's (Dana) paranoid like you said. I wasn't raggin on her... Ali - Is she mad at me? (Nate - No) You are the one that should be really paranoid. Now Nate is reading the bible the her. |
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