Archive through August 16, 2003
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August 16, 2003 - Day 43 - Jun wins POV (Early AM):
Archive through August 16, 2003
Boberg | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 01:53 pm     All 4 feeds on Jun and Erika outside..Jun is still crying..Erika tells jun she can go hang out in HOH if she wants and just listen to music. Jun-yea, I just don't like thinking about home.. E-I know, it is hard E-PB&J what a great day, am I eating the bad bread Ali from somewhere, probably pool..no they threw it out. (very little talk but all feeds are here) |
Dipo | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 01:54 pm     Erica says something missed it. Jun replys I just don't like thinking about home. Jun seems to be starring off in space, Erica is doing the same thing except eating her sandwich. She says "PB&J what a great day". No comments from the others. Now says am I eating the bad food, Ali repies I think they threw it out. ERica is wearying the red poka dot bikini!!!!! Erica says to Jun, just think of how proud your family will be tomorrow when they see you win veto. Yeah, Jun says and goes inside to blow her nose and fix her makeup. |
Watcher | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 02:00 pm     Erika sings out facetiously: PB&J...what a great day. Bird squawks overhead. Erika says oh my goodness. Erika tells Jun to just think of how proud her family is going to be when they see her winning POV. Jun says yeah, that's a plus...so crazy. Jun gets up and goes inside. At mirror she tries to refresh her eye makeup. Says to someone she just hate it when they make her think about home, but cam has switched to outside now. Ali is back on floatie in pool. I think Erika was telling Jack how long he had been sitting in the sun. Jack gets up off towel and gets in pool now. Erika hopes the viewing audience is enjoying this game as much as they are. Jack thinks they are. After all, he says, who is more exciting to watch than they are? lol Erika says television couldn't write a better show than the one they have given them this year. Ali tells Erika she gets to talk one on one with Julie this week. That's cool. Erika agrees. |
Dipo | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 02:04 pm     okay, they have gone delusional. Erica says you couldn't write better televison than this. Talking about Jun winning the veto. E says she has learned not to under estimate people, in here and in life. Missed some of the convo. Earlier Ali said wouldn't it be nice if it was just us three in here, meaning Erica, Jack and Ali!!!! Now goes quiet. Jack is sitting on the stairs in the pool, Ali on pink floater. ERica at table, Robert just joined asked her about her food. Robert says I think we are so dark and don't know it (tans??). So you know next weeks it. Next week you guys get it you should go after me, cuz if I get it I would go after you. I am not saying this to scare you, I think you are the strongest player. Between you and Jack, all of us whether I go or not, we think you are a hell of a lot stronger, you are smart, athletic and really the rest of us suck. You are to all of us, considered that way (missed some). i know that we are on opposite sides, next week it will probably be you, if we get it. All of us. So Jun, we're gonna have to leave her another week, for our side. Are you alright with that? I am trying to tell you are respected. Now you are a strong fing player, its not just me, its all of us. Erica taking it all in. BIg plane flys over. |
Dipo | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 02:11 pm     Robert talking strategy to Erica, can't catch it all. He is saying what a great guy Justin is and he understands that Jus has to go. Says I would have wanted him out iin the first two weeks!!!. Says it is you and Jack next. Just letting you know you are way, way stronger than him. Like Justin and us, he is way stronger. What you did, you got HOH, got the strongest player out. did the hardest compettion. Talking about the HOH competitions. (Don't get where this is coming from). I really respect you as a player, everyone really respects you. I think you didn't know you were more powerfull than Jack, just want you to know. Don't get all shocked next week, Nathan doesn't count, he's weakj. Erica says I think you guys took the strongest player out, Rob is oh yeah, DAve. You know we almost used the veto on him. But then we sat back and thought about it. Erica I walked back into this room last night and wondered who will win. Now talking about the Veto competition. Can't get all this. The last HOH, big plane, was real stuff. Now quiet. I have to go in half an hour. |
Boberg | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 02:18 pm     E-just think about how proud your family will be when they see you win the veto J-yea, that was crazy (she then gets up and goes inside and blows nose and fixes eyes) Allfeeds back outside and can see Jack sunning by pool E-jack put on your hat at least or get out of the sun Ali floating in pool Jack gets up to check on turtles A-wouldnt it be nice with the 3 of us at the end Jack gets in pool A-when are you coming in Erika? E-soon as I fininsh my sandwich J-what is it E-turkey, tomatoes, onions, cheese, J-eat one for me will you E- I hope the viewing audience is enjoying the game as much as us J-I'm sure they are E-think about it you could not write it any better than this...Who would of guessed Jun getting it last night A-yea that is true Justin called to DR( all feeds still outside) Rob comes outside and sits with Erika R-you got dark E-yea I know it , R-you know next week isit E-? R-next week will decide what will happen, you are a good player E-really R-your athletic and smart R-I'm not trying to scare you, I'm trying to tell you you are respected and you are a strong player R-you come in here thinking you could win the money R-i told justin today he might be the best BB player ever,,,he is stonger, smarter, nice R-I told him if I were on the other team I would want you out to Erika mostly going "really" MMHum R-out of you and J you two stonger together What you did..you got HOH and got the strongest player out (rob really kissing up to E) come on Justin got HOH cause who else would have got that question R-J3 thought that Jack was the strong one but now we all know it is you,,,I mean look what you've done E-I believe you guys took the strongest player out(dave) R-(explains how dave was chosen to go) R-tells erika that justin said he only walked during the comp last night R-gotta give it to Jun though..she won it R-that last HOH wasn't just physical it wasalso mental E-uhuh R-I thought I was going to go the first or second week.. so either way I'm cool E-I just want to apologise for anything I might have said you know strategy wise and apologise for calling work..i did it cause i was hurt R-I cant believe you said that..Thank you so much E-it wasnt me, i was just hurt R-it means so much thank you R-I couldnt believe you had did that..it wasnt the person i knew..you always paid attention to me, you gave to me all the time..you gave all of yourself..worried about me...I dont know that just means alot to me..I also know what a scum bag I v been and I do apologise for that and all the dringking,,i was a mess I said how lucky that guy your with is cause you are so giving and beautiful E-I truly do feel bad and guilty, I did it out of my own hurt R-no,no, please dont cry, I am very touched E-I did not want tohave to talk about this but I feel very bad about it all, I'm sorry R-Thank you so much Erika, it means so much to me, you dont know (Then sound swithches off of them!) |
Boberg | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 02:22 pm     Rob talks about how their relationship was always about him and what she did for him and tells her to never change..she isa great person..all quite for a moment the Rob says, "so what do you think, you want to get back together?" They both laugh..tension breaker, then they shake hands. rob gets up to get some water.(something really good just came out of this show.) |
Dipo | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 02:23 pm     Ropbert says he thought he would go outm in the first couple of weeks. The guys said you are such an a**hole they are going to kick you out.. ERica says Apologize for any of the stuff I might have said in here, strategy. I mean it. I apologize for calling ???, Robert says that means alot to me. ERica says I did because I was feeling hurt and vengefull. You and I have been through enough without being a mean. Robert you have always been sweet to me, when I do start to get mad at you and hate you, I think maybe its me. You took care of me, like no one has, when we went out you were respectfull, you paid attention to me all the time, you weren't looking aroung, I dont' know how to explain it, you gave all of yourself, you always have, I mean I don't know how much makes sense I know you heart was always for us, you never gave me a reason to be jealous, I try to go back to that. I know what a scum bag and what I did to to you and I do apologize for that and the drinking, seeing you and I was a mess but I am saying I know what kind of person you are I know who you are, you know what I mean. Of course you are so beatuiful, you know what I mean. Thanks Robert, says ERica. I truly do feel very bad and guilty I did it out of my own hurt. Now Erica is getting weepy. E I was so hurt. R I totally forgive you, I thought that would never come up,. Erica I have been feeling very bad about it, I never wanted to try and take a job away from you, after I did it i felt so bad, and I really am so sorry. ACK now no sound on cam 1 & 2. Rob/Erica on cam 3/4. Switching cams. So what do you think, want to get back together??? Both laughing hysterically. He says I had to say it, all the cameras are on us. ROFLMAO Cam is frozen now. |
Seamonkey | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 02:27 pm     Just stopping by to say Robert is doing a major suck-up and apology to Erika.. talking about getting drunk, that she is a beautiful person, other guy is lucky, she gives everything, etc, etc. ED THAT IS HOW IT APPEARED and some probably is strategy telling her she is the best player (except Justin) and all respect her more than Jack. But.. the personal stuff.. He's been gushing on and on and on. Erika says she feels bad and very very guilty, did it out of her own hurt.. feels bad she was so hurt. Robert says he forgives her he does know that Erika loved his daughter (I think it was).. Missed tons here.. she says she didn't want to try to take his job away, after she did it she felt back. (major major stuff here just for the two of them personally). Robert says Erika did everything for him, all was about Robert, his hair, dress, she made everything for him.. she's sweet, great hearted and he knows he's been a (cheat or sleaze).. Anyway Both very emotional, she has her sunglasses on... Then Robert gets a little smile, and says "so what do you think? wanna get back together and both just CRACK UP!!! Robert says he had to say that.. all the cameras can just see them walking out holding hands. They shake hands and he says, they both say, REAL this time. Robert goes inside. Wish we could hear inside Erika's head about now. Can hear a voice, maybe Ali, and Erika just says "no it isn't" quad check.. Robert inside with Jee.. Ali comes in Robert asks what is the matter.. Robert saying to Jee3.. he didn't know Erika would bring it up, Erika messing up his job.. called his fing killer job.. Erika said he slashed her tires..?? They called him in and said she had said he was not stable.. they said it would be okay but Robert says still messed him up. Rob says the way they broke up was he cheated on her.. But now she told him she was sorry, she knew he has a daughter. He laughs and says he did tell her she is next to go from their side.. and she said he was next on her side. Erika told Robert she thought Justin would win Robert says that Erika said Justin was thebest player ever.. (actually she said that Justin is a sweetheart and they did both agree that Justin doesn't lie. Robert now schmoozing Justin about coming out, seeing Erika too.. asks Jee if he knows any Asian chicks, Carmen will hook him up with latin chicks.. etc. Jee says something about his sister. Robert back to his sister's friends. I'm gone again. |
Boberg | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 02:28 pm     Rob has gone back inside to couch where J3 gather and begins to tell them what just happened outside. He is telling story of Erika calling his work. He states how Erika apologised and then how he told her who was coming after who depending on who wins next hOH. R-She said you are the best on our team and Itold her she was the best on their team. Rob ask Jee about Asian girls where he lives and starts talking about dating. J-i wouldnt go out with your sister Jee-you would too Jus-no, shes hot but she is your sister Ali out of DR and sits with the guys. |
Watcher | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 02:39 pm     Rob is back outside. Sits at table next to Erika. Talks about how dark they all are. Rob says you know next week is it. Erika says in what sense do you mean? Rob says next week you guys get it, you should go after me. If we get it, I go after you. I'm not doing it to scare you or piss you off. I think you are as strong as hell. Tells her she is strong and she is athletic and smart and has done well. He knows they are on opposite sides, but says he is telling her and being honest with her, if it's next week, they want her out. Says they are going to have to leave Jun another week for the Jee3 side. Says he is trying to tell her she is respected...it's not just him, it's all of them that think that she is strong. Erika not saying much. Rob says did you come in here thinking you were going to win that money? She shakes head no. He says it would be nice to win it, but didn't think that either. Rob thinks Justin is one of the strongest players in the history of BB. Says he swears that Justin has played the game without one lie...that's why he is going to stay with him. He told Justin that if he had been on the other team, he would have wanted Justin out, too, because he is such a strong player. Erika is quiet. Rob says I'm not trying to scare you or anything, but you know if it's us next week, it's you or Jack and we know that you are the stronger one. Says Erika will go first...then him. Says Erika killed the game. She is getting one of the strongest players in the game out. Tells her she is doing great. He doesn't know if it matters to her coming from him, but he really respects her and how she played the game. She thanks him. Erika says you do have to go after alliances, you know. Erika tells him you guys took one of the strongest players out, too. Talk and laugh about different players and things that have happened in the game....very friendly. Erika says she would like to apologize for anything she said in here like for strategy or anything. Rob says you mean like in the tapes? Erika says, just for ANYthing I've said in here. Rob says it's all okay...doesn't matter...it's just the game. (PP) Erika now says she would also like to apologize for calling your work. I just did it out of hurt. Rob says oh my god, you don't even know how much that means to me. She says she does mean it. She is not a vengeful person...was just hurt. They are both adults and no need to be mean to each other. Rob says he has always thought she had a good heart. Says she always loved him and cared about him and never judged him...that she took care of him like no one ever has. Says when they went out, she was really respectful...she paid attention to him...she gave 100%..she gave all of herself to him. She never gave him a reason to be jealous. Says he also knows what a scumbag he is for the things he did to her...she of all people, didn't deserve it and he apologizes for what he did and for the drinking. He is telling her how beautiful she is and he still feels that when he sees her all dressed up and she has a beautiful soul. (they seem to be getting things out into the open with each other about things in the past) Erika says she really does feel guilty...she did it out of her own hurt. Rob says it means a lot to him...he totally forgives her and can't believe this even came up...he never thought he would hear that from her. Erika tells him she didn't want to hurt him..she is crying. Robert says Erika, that means so much to me...god you don't even know. It takes so much for you to say those things to me. I really am truly sorry for everything I ever did to you....sorry that you had to be the one to go through that bad stage of my life with me. I put you through hell, but you never gave me s*** about it. It got worse even after I left. Keeps saying she is sweet, a great hearted person who always thinks about everyone else...that this means so much to him. Rob says so what do you think? Wanna get back together? (lol) Erika breaks out laughing. Rob says I had to say it. Cameras all on us...would be funny if we walk out of here hand in hand. They are both laughing and seem very relieved to have gotten those things out into the open. (very touching to watch and listen to) (lost Real Player and missed some) Rob has gone inside now and is talking to Justin and Jee about the conversation he had with Erika. Says he was just shocked. He has felt so bad about everything. He had no idea she was going to bring about that stuff. It means so much to him. Telling them how she called his job and it f***ed him up. Tells them the reason they broke up was because he cheated on her. She told him I know you have a daughter...he says that just means SO much to him...he is feeling so good after their conversation. Rob doesn't tell them everything that was said, but lets them know how good it made him feel. Then tells them after they talked, he told her they were coming after her next week. Jee and Justin laugh. Justin says something about that is a nice compliment. Rob says he told her Justin would be coming out to live with him and she said we would have to all get together. Seems to be happy about it. All cams on living room on Jee3 talking about Jee's girl now and their relationship. Just chitchat now. (my last post for now) |
Seamonkey | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 02:54 pm     Erika and Jack.. wondering what Jun is thinking.. want to meet tonight with her (and Ali ) Jack wonders if they should tell Jun the Robert suggested the truce to Ali.. that they all stop and put Jun out next week, then resume battle. Jack thinks Jun may say why didn't you tell me before last night? Says they could just say it was so preposterous and couldn't get her alone. Jack goes to pee, Erika, in HOH robe goes out to shaded hammock in yard. FOTH |
Seamonkey | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 02:59 pm     Jack had gone to HOH and was sitting there alone. Erika went to sit on couch with Jee 3 and Ali.. Jack came out of HOH, gets water standing ner couches. One feed keeps flipping to FOTH.. Must be humming becaus eall cames go berserk and foth.. Back.. Jee talks about catchy tune from fox casino in CT. For the last 20 min, Justin has had his hand on Ali's back. Jee's girl works in Times Square. Jee saying crime rate decreased there. Erika says better than here (ed. nope) |
Nmbeach | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 03:02 pm     It is Robert with his hand on Ali's back. |
Morning_Magic | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 03:02 pm     A glipse at Erika's polka dotted bikini.
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Morning_Magic | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 03:24 pm     Quad cam: Feeds 1 & 4 - Erika & Jack in the shade outside, Erika has sunglasses on. They zoomed out to show someone laying out on the grass. Feeds 2 & 3 - Alternate shots between Jack and Erika. Thay are just sitting there quietly. Switched to Feed 1: Erika goes over to hammock sits next to Robert and tells him that he is not a target this week or next week. |
Seamonkey | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 03:49 pm     Eeek, MM.. yes!! I meant Robert!! Erika and Robert in hammock he is telling her he and Justin will make no deals with Jun and Jun won't use veto. Erika and Robert both say a huge weight lifted off them.. He effusively says they'll be friends.. About the game thing, who you are thinking about.. you could say you won't go against us.. Asks Erika who she's thinking of putting up.. She says she doesn't know. Robert says the deal he suggested is off, he would still go against her or Jack. Cam switched to Jack and Ali.. Ali saying we have majority. Jack saying we still have to go for one of them next week. Back to Robert and Erika.. ?Robert says you and Jack won't break up.. then he says "I know you have Ali" (really?).. Robert has said he isn't worried about Jun.. he'd even beat her. ERika says the two girls are both playing for second place, but they know that. OK with that.. And will probably drift into finals together. Robert back to going on and on about how Jee-3 think Erika is so strong, stronger than Ali, Ali can be swayed in a minute, stronger than Jack. Robert is laughing and saying that Jun said to Jee that Justin and Robert were turning on him (ed. Erika does not tell him she and Jack and Ali all told Jee that too).. Erika says be honest, you don't want to bring Jee or Justin to finals. Like Erika felt about Dave.. didn't have to come to decision.. any alliance of three, have to consider who you can beat, go to final with. ERika said she was very flattered, seems pleased as punch, said same to Jack earlier. Robert says next week if you get it one of us leaves, me or Jee. Or if Jack leaves we can go after those two floaters (ed. he's saying Erika, Jee and Robert going against the floaters. Erika says why don't the two alliances go after the two floaters? Robert thinks ... and says no.. wait a week, we have to be one up.. wait a week In other words, Jun is with you, Ali would jump to your side. Robert is cool with Jack being out. but everyone thinks you are a way bigger threat than Jack (ed. setting Erika up to help get rid of Jack, methinks.. last night Ali was saying Jack is the one who must go) Robert also said he'd rather she won, even if he was second, rather ERika won than Ali or Jun.. He's saying if HE is still here and his side is down, totally alright to get them out. Erika: want to make a deal? Say if... you and Jee go up, we vote out Jee, if Jack and I go up, we vote out Jack, either week.. then it is You and me against Ali and Jun. Robert asks her to repeat it and thinks. Robert says he cannot do that to Jee, Jee's done so much for me, I cannot do that. Erika says WE would take him out. Robert, I can't do that. She says you wouldn't be campaigning. Says that is what happens. Robert says even if I wanted Jack out, the others will probably want you out. She says over JACK.. JACk in the finals, don't know (ed. right on.) Robert says let's see what happens this HOH and see what we can do. Erika says 'kay. Robert says do me a favor, if you have a plan to get me and Jee out next week, GET ME OUT, no reason to stay another week.. if 4-1, I'd rather go the first week, not a week later. Erika says you never know, you might join Jack and myself. (ed. so screw your ally) Robert hates to see Jun skate by but she's going to have to one more week. Robert says well IF jack goes.. you can come with me and Jee.. she's fine with that. She says if jee goes, you can come with me and Jack against the girls. Robert doesn't want the girls to win anything. Erika says that's what I'm saying. The two alliances vs the girls. Erika says you cannot tell Jee. I will not tell Jack. She says you may tell Jee but I'm worried he'll tell Jun. He says no way there is no alliance, that girl is SO evil, tells Erika Jun said America's choice is no fair he's implying that Jun knows Robert would beat her out for it and was complaining ..ed. NOt what I heard at all).. Now Robert is off on Jun being a (just list all of his invective ahd he said it. Erika is cool about being fine with Jack gone and with taking Robert over the others to finals (ed knowing she'd win). Robert is now saying that he knows Erika is just playing the game spending all tht time with Jack!! Respects Erika the most.. he is claiming he's said this all along!!!!! Must make Erika SICK talking to these girls, you aren't like that not FAKE.. and make her sick talking to Jack. Robert says this stays between us. Says Jun will bluff (ed. haven't see that).. Erika says she loves to do that. Come in and mess with people. Robert again says those two girls shouldn't be her at this time. then says well Ali did work hard, by suckering the one guy like me, Nate felt bad about that (ed LOTS of rewriting of history going on here by Robert and Erika appearing to suck it up, and laughing) |
Seamonkey | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 04:01 pm     Now on to knock Dana.. Erika says her favorite was Dana saying Erika and Robert had a secret alliance.. Robert says we even put each other up (ed. when was Robert HOH??) These two are giggling like little kids now. She does say obviously Justin is the target but then says but Robert is capable of pulling it off too. She says a Jack - Jee final would be very interesting. R says Jee would get Dana's vote. R thinks Jee would slam it. Erika says Jee would slam probably anybody in the finals. lost feeds Erika says the pressure is going to be on poor Jack, laughs. Robert says you still have Jun..you'll get us out. (ed. maybe jack jun and ali need to ally?? Suddenly Erika noticed tortoises eating their sh!t. All cams go to jack and jee talking. Jack asks how Justin is. Jee says fine, very accepting.. says Justin goes to the other side talks honestly, man of integrity, speaks the truth. Jee says he plays a similar game to Justin's. Jee says Justin is ok, his time to go. Jack asks if Justin is upset with Robert for leaving the cage so early.. Jee says he's ok with that. jee says as for the veto, I don't know, you can say what you want. You can have good reason to do what you did, just as I did (ed, may be claiming they all threw veto?) Jack says about next week.. Jee says oh could be Jun or you or anyone. Jee says he can be a target next week as well. Hopefully it will go well for all of us. Jee says they do speak, just as you and Erika have from the beginning. Jee says very obvious, out in the open, how the game is being played in the house, duke it out. Jack says re-group and go at it next week. Jee says you can talk to me any time.. have to speak to each other. Jee says "even Erika".. Jack says Erika felt free to talk to Jee any time. Jee says you can't think too far ahead, week to week. HOH doesn't determine everything, you can be very surprised in the end. Jack asks if Robert listenes to Jee.. Jee says Robert listens to Jee more than anyone.. Jack says with Justin leaving, will Robert try to move into leader role. Jee says it appeared that Justin was leader, but all equal. All worked together.. Jack is just yessing along.. Jee happy he met a couple of great guys like them; enjoyed my experience because of them.. great guys to work with like you have Erika. Of course Jee misses girlfriend and family. Jack compliments Jee on his strategy (ed. more rewriting of history for strategy) Jee is happy Jack recognizes this greatness.. met great people like you, respect you , Erika is TOTALLY COOL, says he told her in nomination ceremony that at that time he didn't blame her, he felt uncomfortable. I think Ali just sat down.. |
Seamonkey | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 04:03 pm     Jee says had no idea of Elite 8.. Went to one cam and they changed it.. I could see someone with legs over the couch that wasn't Jee or Jack.. Yes finally they flash on Ali's face, she is in the orange blanket listening carefully. have to stop for a bit.. |
Seamonkey | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 04:08 pm     Just bumped up live feed request.. Justin just had a long diary session.. says good session, if what you like to talk about, it was Alex, not a guy. so he liked it. Robert just went by, possibly to DR. Jee playing cards with Justin.. Erika close up and looking on, Jee being a little bit flirty with her. I have to go.. |
Cjr | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 04:28 pm     Haven't heard all of the conversation but Erika and Jack in HOH were whispering. Erika in chair, Jack on HOH bed. Erika told Jack that her and Robert were talking about mostly personal things. That Robert and her apologized to each other for things said and done. She then told Jack that she brought up to Robert that if she were voted out Robert and Jee should take Jack and vote out Ali and Jun. She said that if Jack were voted out that she would be with Jee and Robert against the girls. Erika and Jack agreed that she should go get Ali in the room and talk to her. She went to living room where Ali was laying on couch (not sure if she was alseep) and got Ali to go in HOH. Erika told Ali that she didn't want her thinking Rob and Erika were in an alliance. She said they discussed only personal stuff. |
Cjr | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 04:34 pm     Robert and Justin out back. Robert is telling Justin about the conversation with Erika. Said that Robert asked Justin who Jee and Robert should allign with if Justin went, Ali or Erika. Justin told him Erika, of course. He said Ali is a liar. |
Cjr | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 04:43 pm     Jun, Erika and Jun now in HOH. Erika told Jun she was only talking personal stuff with Robert and that she told Robert they were going after him, no way around it. Alison walked in. Everyone whispering. Ali told them everyone outside, don't have to whisper. Ja: We are trying to get Robert next week. Jun: We should wait and see next week. Unless it's Spanish 108 I can't see Robert winning anything. (missed some conversation) Jun told Erika Robert is pissed at her, always has been but because Erika now has something over him he isn't acting like it. Erika: We apologized to each other but we both said we were coming after each other still. Ali thinks next HOH will be mental. Jack says it should be quick. Jun says she worries about different kind of veto where the vetoer would put up next person. Doesn't really think BB would do that though, take to much power away from HOH. (Will post now, lots of mumbling by Jun, can't understand.) |
Seamonkey | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 04:45 pm     ERika and Jack .. she tells him of her idea to Robert of going after the two girls with whoever makes it next week.. Jack says he often thought of working with Jee or her and Jee and him. Jack first told Erika that Ali was paranoid about ERika talking to Robert. Erika said she should be Jun says Justin told her not to use the veto.. (ed Justin said he ahd done that).. Jee told Ali and Justin told Jack .. no tie or sympathy vote. Jun says she won't tell Jee what to do.. Jack says do they still talk. Jun says he's not as open to talking, shrugs alot, more closed minded than before.. says like the other guys he wanted Jun to stay in the cage longer. Jack did say "Ali has to go" and Erika agreed.. Ali first, Jun next. Erika calls in Ali.. tells her she wanted to tell Ali AND Jack.. about her talk with Robert but it was all just personal.. still on opposite sides, but it was all personal .. tells more detail.. Says didn't want Ali to worry. Ali comes back saying she is sure Robert will go after Jun.. (ed. not what Robert said) Ali says maybe we should go after Robert before Jee.. (ed.. watch Erika squirm). Jack says Jee slowed down on the veto) Ali also asked if Robert mentioned the truce.. (HE DID and said it is off)..Erika say no .. ali says with disappointment, oh , maybe it is off.. Jack says it IS off, Jun is with us this week. Ali wonders if Jun will put up Ali and Jack and Erika say no no she'll put up Robert and Jee!! Erika says don't even tell Jun.. Ali wonders if Jun trusts her, she tries REALLY HARD. Ali says Jun goes back and forth.. whice we never do.. Says if Jun was HOH she'd want to get rid of Jee not Robert. Erika says Ali needs to get HOH next week and put up Robert. they say maybe Jun should get it.. Whispering.. Erika says we have to still fight for it, but would be perfect if we did.. Jack says preferrably get Rober out next. Ali says but then Jun may go back with Jee. the others say that is fine we have three. Ali says sorry she didn't do better but it was a fun competition. Ali wonders if Robert will get America's choice? They both say they think it makes sense. Ali says Jun was crying in here.. they say she misses Bob and home.. Jack says it was the music last night TOO.. they played U2 and that reminded Jun of him. they tell Erika they had music last night. She said she sat in silence in HOH/??? (ed. Didn't Erika compete for PoV????) Outside Robert is now spilling to JUSTIN saying he wants to run by him what Erika said to him in hammock. Says Erika said "what would you offer me if I could tell you you're not going to be the target next week? Robert says he told her NOTHING.. as far as you and Jack going up.. I think Erika is stronger, blah.. Then she said what about you and Jee and Jack and I getting the girls out next week.. he told her NO, first have to get one of them out first. Then says Erika told him not to tell anyone.. Robert says Erika thinks Ali is on her side.. Justin says she thinks that? Yes. Robert says Erika said the whole house doesn't want Jee in finals. Robert told her if I'm not going to win, I want to go out next. She said what if you get JACK out.. Erika comes with Jee and Robert .. Justin says we would never do that. in other words if Erika doesn't go next, she'll come with them.. then she said it was all up to Jack .. He wants guidance from Justin.. WHO SHOULD WE ally with if Jack goes out.. Ali or Erika??? AND Justin said ERIKA.. she's playing like I do.. definitely go with ERika not with Ali,ERika will be a lot more straight up with you.. Ali will lie to your F-ing face and when I leave, no one else can read her. Robert mentions ERika saying the two girls are going for second, not first. Justin says yeah.. And also that Erika thinks Jee would beat Jack if F2. Rober is all excited now.. (ed. dang.. now he'll get AI and be flying). Now he's rehashing how cool Jee-3 are.. lifelong friendship.. (ed. same thing Jee told Jack..) and Justin says of course, he just told the DR that.. Erika thinks she can beat Robert, but not Jee. Erika sais we all would win vs Ali and Jun. So Robert feels that they want Jee to go before Robert. Justin says look how Erika is thinking, Ali only thinks week to week.. Justin says they want to do the truce, the only chance they have is Jack winning it. Obvious. Erika questioned are you sure about Jun and Jee, and Robert told her he is sure.. Jun is a scumb*g and Jee is all heart.. he claims that Erika agreed that Jun is a scumb*g. all four feeds lurch into HOH.. Jun comes in.. Erika says "our new child". jack starts his whispering.. about targetting Robert first. Jun says is it collective thing, thought Ali wanted Jee out first. Jack says I think we are leaning toward Robert. ALI BURSTS into the room, what is up?? Jun says Jee is in DR. Ali looks frazzled. Jack says running by Jun.. we are thinking we should jump on Robert this week. Erika says we should see this week thru.. Jun thinks BB will target this HOH for one of them.. Jun can't see Robert winning anything. Jun says Jee's a little paranoid. Erika says only two left. Jack tells how Jee said he thought jee didn't see Robert as leader.. Jun says Justin never had as much pull on those two.. often Justin wanted to change something, but Robert would put his foot down.. and if necessary Jee would come in. (this seems true, but wish Ali wasn't hearing it, she'll go right back to them) Jun says Robert doesn't have a way with words but is very firm, Jee is the same. Jack asks if she thinks Robert would come at ERika and Jack next week. Jun says, Robert is awfully mad at me now. Jun says Robert is pissed at Erika. Erika to Jun is saying it was just a truce, apology, etc.. still coming after each other (not mentioning the other deal she made with him) Erika says he's loyal to Jee, I'm loyal to you guys. Jun thinks they'll be fine. Ali thinks it will be mental. Jun thinks it will be quick. Ali says we'll be happy little foursome. Jun says they could throw in a twist. Jun thought of veto where that person puts up the other nominee.. they think probably not,but could be. Jack says we are a week off with Scott.. Jun says maybe two weeks..off but Ali thinks they will do something.. thinking of an intruder. |
Seamonkey | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 04:53 pm     Outside Robert is now blabbing all to Jee and Justin.. Justin says better to wait on the "Alison thing".. take Erika instead of Jack. take Erika instead of Ali. Justin tells Jee they'll suck his d#ck if they win HOH. They say they should keep Jack beyond the girls Keep ERika over Ali. Keep jack over Jun and Ali. going back to HOH at present.. Jee-3 is off on power trip, dream team, etc. Feeds freezing now.. no sound from hoh go . I think Jun and Ali are Dana bashing.. Ali talking about when Dana had to give her the HOH key.. Ali says Dana was so mean to me. Jun says angry person. Jack says she was full of spit n vinegar. Ali and Jun are leaving but Ali hangs back and says they should practice trivia. Erika has head in hands. Jack says can't think of anything else we need to do right now.. Mentions if Erika gets message from home.. Says Hardy heard from his grandmother.. blah.. Quad cam again. Can hear Ali and Jun talking about laundrey. Jee and Justin are playing cards now. Erika leaves HOH wearing sunglasses and HOH robe. Can hear basketball.. then BB tells them to put covers on windows. Must be Robert. Gotta leave again  |
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