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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Big Brother IV - July 2003 Live Feed Archives: July 18, 2003 - Day 14 - Dave wins POV - Lots of plotting.: Archive through July 18, 2003

Dipo

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 04:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Now cams on Dave and Erica in the desert room, talking about strategy. Dave wants to use the POV.

Said that Justin approached him and said he wants to talk later. Dave not sure if they are changing things. Maybe we can talk erica off next week. Missed a lot of this convo, Dave says Robert on board because he had forgotten about the veto. Dave thinks they were stupid not to put two of them up and didn't do it for personal reasons. He leaves the room.

gotta go back to work.

Prisonerno6

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 04:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Feeds all on boys playing. Erika just called to the diary room.

FOTH

Alison, Michelle, and Dana talking outside. Saying they have to win HOH next week. I think they were saying Jack and David would have to be nominated. Dana says she doesn't care what she has to do, she'll eat sh--.

Something about being all dressed up unless they tell us not to be. Dana says something about her diary room "stuff", called someone Wicked Witch of the West.

Talking Justin's ear, and "he made me touch it!" Alison said she joked to someone "we have nothing in the house except bread, ceral and cauliflower."

Dana, again with the "a girl has to win HOH next week...They think they have us under their thumb and that pisses me off...No one knows the girls want to stick together."

Dana says she's trying to "stay out of it" but everyone keeps trying to drag her into it by telling her this or that. She has a hard time trusting people.

Michelle asks about doing laundry while they talk. Dana says she just has underwear, she doesn't wash any of her clothes. Jun comes out, Dana says they were tlaking abotu doing laundry. Everyone should just grab three towels and wash them themselves. Now talking about making tea (no one making a move to do laundry).

Michele and Dana leave to get ready for laundry. Dave comes out and talks to Alison. Dana still in the backyard.

Jack and Erika talking about turtle..oh, excuse me, tortoises. :-) Tlaking about playing ping-pong or marbels. Erika: This is a bored group of people.

Erika and Jack whispering, can't make out what they are saying. Video on ping pongers. Going to try to find J and E feed...

Prisonerno6

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 04:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
All feeds on ping-pongers (Jee and Justin or Robert). There is, no doubt, strategizing going on elsewhere in the house, but goodness knows, watching ping pong must be more interesting.

Ryn

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 04:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ping pong playing (I have no idea where they got this equiptment, guess it came with the marbles, which I also have no idea when they got)

Nathan and Justin - justin loses - throws the paddle in semi anger and it hits Jee in the head.

Every one laughs but it hit jee hard.

Justin apologizes and jee says its cool.

Justin says it slipped out of his hand cause he is sweaty. he was swinging his arm in frustration and it flew out of his hand.

Someone "that will be on TV"

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Jun tells him it left a red mark.

Now Robert and David playing

Ryn

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 04:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They are using equiptment from the punching bag for paddles and towels for the net. So its their own set-up.

A "paddle" & the "net"

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Nathan says "BB can we get some ping pong paddles please?"

Prisonerno6

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 04:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Alison and Erika were whispering, but I couldn't hear a word they said over the ping pong game.

Jun came through, talking about new toothbrushes.

Back to ping pong...

Ryn

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 04:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Short time cam was on Alison and Erika in the bathroom but I nevr heard anything.

Now its back on the ping pongers - they have constructed a new net out of plastic wrap and something else for posts to hold it up. Actually pretty smart of them.

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Jee was complaing earlier that he had no backhand so he isn't as good. (they can only hit with a forehand because they only have one "side" on their paddle)

Ryn

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 05:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
BB delivers the caseroles - they send a note saying the others were spoiled so they have given then 2 brand new ones - the more 'palitable' - 2 ham & claiflower and 2 venison & artichoke.

The HGs that lost the food comp are going to eat them. they are going to try to make it last a few days.

They are removing the fries and putting 2 back in the storage room. They apparently can use ketchup and mustard as well.

(posting and done....)

Ryn

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 05:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Erika & Dana on cam 1 - talking about Robert, etc.

Erika says if she is in the house next week and gets HoH - she is going after Robert and it is completely personal.

She also says Dana needs to go.

Alison wants david to use the veto.

(thats all the summary i can do - I am outta here)

Lostintheglades

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 06:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Michelle, Robert and Dave playing BB (Horse) Michelle is winning....hehejust made a one handed basket..now Dave and Michelle are tied. But Dave put her out with a long shot.

Now Justin shooting. Dana Jack and Erika outside watching. All sound and Vidoe in backyard now.

Jun is eating what looks like a bagel with cream cheese. No Strategy here...just male bonding on the BBall court...the girls appear to be getting ready to workout a bit.

Jan

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 06:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Iam not watching live feeds but someone just posted this in the gen'l discussion area. I thought it should be included here as it is pretty important:

"Well I just heard David in the hammock with Michelle tell her that "everyone" is going to go to Jee and tell him that they all want to have Erika vetoed and Dana put up. He walked away and came back and Michelle asked him if he thinks Jee will go for it and he said yes."

Clubcarl

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 06:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
June cooking in kitchen. On all four feeds.

Switched to outside and Dana is staring at something. Waiting for towels to get dry.

She's laughing at Robert who cannon balled in the pool.

Dipo

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 06:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
quad cam. All on Jun in kitchen. Most everyone is in the backyard. Jun is cooking, Ali comes into the room to see when dinner will be done. BB calls Jee to DR. can't tell what Jun is cooking, bad camera angles. Now 4 cams on outside show Dana standing at the dryer. Girls have been doing laundry.

Nate and ali keep walking through the cam, but can't tell what they are doing.

Someone just jumped into pool, it was Robert. He is jumping in splashing everyone. Trying to get Dave who is on the hammock. everyone laughing. Ali, I think, said he always says he doesn't start anything, but he does (not sure who she is talking about, Dave or Robert).

Jack and erica playing some type of cards. boys in the pool. Someone bouncing the BBBall, dana and Ali doing laundry.

Grannyg

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 06:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
they are still working on our cable and it keeps going and coming. right now I have cable but it could go at any time

jack and erica are playing cards outside. someone playing bb. ericka ask michelle if she has put her clothes in the dryer and she said she is fixing too. ericka and jack back to playing cards.

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Dallasbbfan

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 07:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
All four cams moved from J&E card game to inside. Two on Jun cooking, two on Justin standing at island. He left and now we have 4 shots of Jun cooking stir fry.

Back outside on all 4 (not much happening tonight)

Michelle & Dana doing laundry. Someone bouncing BBall.

OOOH, just got flashed by Justin (full side partial front) as he was adjusting towel with nothing underneath.

David and M now playing HORSE

Dipo

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 07:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
boys on bb court, dave and justin. Justin is wrapped in a towel, looked like he was taking off his shorts under the towell, at one point rewrapped the towell, got a nice side flash of "nekid" body. Then BB said Justin please put on your microphone. He has done so but has not returned to BB court, is now in kitchen walking around in towell and mic. Dave is playing BB with Michele. Justin is putitng food on the table.

Grannyg

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 07:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun has finished cooking and now it's time for dinner. dave and michelle are still playing bb. they are playing the best 2 out of 3.

Ryn

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 07:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This note applies to posts I removed - the remaining ones are fine.

Reminder - we don't comment on the TV show here - we do not post general comments - this thread is ONLY to post what is happening on the live feeds. The one exception is if someone chooses to post the TV summaries on the night of the LIVE show, and only then when it is on LIVE on the east coast and all we have on the feeds is FOTH - thanks

Grannyg

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 07:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nate talking to robert and telling him that jee doens't want to do it. rob saying the reason behind it was that jee said they should have put dana up first. rob says he will back up jee any day before dave. rob understands where jee is coming from. they both leave.

Ryn

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 07:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
7:20 pm BB time....

Cam 1 - Dave, Nathan, Michelle, Robert.....

They are trying to convince Robert to talk Jee into letting Dave veto someone so Jee can put up Dana.

Nathan says EVERYONE wants Dana out - they can all go to Jee and say they will back him.

Dave asks if he uses the veto - will Jee put him up? Robert doesn't think so.

Michelle asks who dave would veto - male voices say it doesn't matter.

Robert says either way he wants Erica out next....they say we know but no one guarentees it or anything.

Now Robert and Dave are talking to Justin - saying that they (jack and dave) plan on coming over to the aliance with Jee/etc next week and Erica doesn't know it (ed - I think this is just a cover story by Dave but I am not sure).

Justin or someone says - that its in Daves hand either way.....

feed cut out...

Ryn

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 07:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Back on cam 1...

Dana with Dave, Justin, Robert....

they are watching someone shoot the ball - they said he never misses....(nathan is my guess)

(ed - with dana there the real talk has stopped)

just joking about Ali - how she is a scrapper, and when they have boxed with her she fights dirty.

Michelle is also playing basketball.

Cam 3/4 was inside the house - eating.

going to cam 3 since no one will talk game play with Dana there.

Ryn

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 07:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun and Jack doing dishes... (Seems like Jun has been in the kitchen ALL day)

Jee is somewhere nearby because he just asked what the date was.

Erika asks if they are getting cake (tommorow is Jun's birthday). She goes to the Diary Room to ask for one.

Jee says thats so sweet - says he will give Jun his room tommorow (HoH)

No talking now - just camera panning and Jack washign dishes, Jee at table eating.

Jee brings dishes - thanks Jack for doing them.

Kira33

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 07:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Robert said it's up to Dave, but Jee won't be happy about it....Robert seems to think putting Dana up is a good idea, but wants to support Jee.
Dave: Erika thinks now that I have the veto, (I'm gonna take her off the block)....Erika will be blindsided - you can't set that up again, this is like perfect for it.
Mich: When me and Dana go up against each other, it's gonna be HELL for the next few days.....she's gonna be flipping out for the next few days coz she thinks that I'm with her.
Dave: She doesn't know that Jack and I are going over, she thinks...she wouldn't even suspect it. That way we can convince her to go for HoH
Erika just FIGURED that (he'd save her)....Dana told Mich that she has to get HoH next week
Robert: Are you gonna talk to jee first?
Dave: If I do what I got to do, will it be dana, and Jee will be pis*ed at me?
Robert: What are you gonna do (worst case scenario) Fuc* Erika, take her off...take Michelle off.....
Dave: Gotta get Dana off NOW.
Robert: He thinks Erika is gonna come after him....I don't know
Dave: If we keep Erika *thinking* we're on her side, she won't go after (you guys)......Erika can be manipulated more right now than Dana....if Dana's out and Erika still thinks we're in with her, then she won't suspect anything.
Justin: Jee says if you take Erika off.....he's worried about both of them coming after him. So he wants to keep things the way they are. It all comes down to you, Dave. You know he's against it right now.....if Dana got HoH next week, I'd be scared for my life (everybody would). Jee feels a lot more comfortable with Dana being HoH than Erika.
Robert: She'll (Erika) put you (dave) on the block...she will kill your family, that girl is crazy...she will, the bitc* will do that.

Meggieprice

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 07:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dave was angling hard during all these conversations to make it understood that Erika would be the best one to veto- that she will be easier to manipulate, that she is not likely to win HOH and that it will be easier to get her out next if she felt the original alliance held and her being vetoed evidenced that because she would trust them and not try for HOH. Robert angling just as hard to keep it as it is so that Erika goes and saying Erika lies, manipulates , and is a b****, just as bad as Dana but not as smart. (ed. I too wonderif Dave is lying but do not know)

Ryn

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 07:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Quad cam - (audio from cam 1)

Lots of HGs outside - Jun, Dana, Dave, Justin, Ali, Michelle, Nate...

Dave goes inside - Robert, Justin and Dana by the wall - but not talking.....

Justin asks if Dana is gonna get in the hot tub - she says she will wait until the crown dies....

Justin says somethign like "should I go before ... get(s?) nervous?" she says shut up - laughs.

Now talking about hair, Justins hair, sideburns. Justin has to keep cutting it every few days to keep it "fresh"

Justin wish's he had brought in a razor to keep hi "shape" - like to touch up his haircut I assume.

Now discussing the movie "Barber Shop" (which I never saw - so I am lost).

Jun comes out and says something - perhaps about the tye dye shirts.....

Justin comments on someone...

Dana " I wanna spill the beans on him so bad..."

Justin "I hope she chokes in her sleep" (Ali)

Dana - comments on his hostility...

Justin - she put me through hell - March, April, half of May - and she will deny it to her grave.

Dana - so you weren't really b/f - g/f?

Justin - no - but she was the only one I was hookin up with from September until.....

Ali calls him over to help him with some equiptment..

Jun on a chair talking to Dana - "I can't believe I signed up for this (BB)

Jun - I had a good job - and I probably can't get it back.

Justin is back - proceeds to tlk about how Ali followed him around the 1st month - would find out where he was going and show up with her friends, it was ok if it was a big club but once she started drinking she would come up to him and start asking him to dance.. drive him crazy, make a scene...


He says that this guy Donnie (the new guy?) would prank him when Ali was away at padgents - that he would call him up and say she wasn't at a padgent, he was in bed with her.... but he wouldn't put her on (Justin said she wasn't there, this guy was just doing ti to tick him off).

he went in to more detail, something about restraining orders (as in Ali on Donnie maybe - not sure - i couldn't hear clearly) - but he said he could not believe she would go back to him after stuff like that.

thats it for now....... 7:50 pm

(my ISP is dropping me randomly - can't stay on)