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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Big Brother IV - August 2003 Live Feed Archives: August 11, 2003 - Day 38 - Nathan tries to save himself: Archive through August 11, 2003

Ryn

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 02:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun says "unless we change our minds - he goes out Wednesday" asks the others wht they think...

Justin says he is still up in the air....

Jun says he is "such a b***ch" - that he has an ego and complains...

Jee says that he kind of agrees with robert that he blew his chance.....

Jee is sort of for it but unsure because he feels that Nathan already screwed them over.

Jun is pushing to not save him.

Justin says if he is leaning one way it is to getting him evicted...

silence....

Seamonkey

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 02:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
We can go all the way.. in every Big Brother we always pick each other off.. (the guys).. says
Fing Danielle..

Again says hates to see a GIRL comin' between a DUDE..

Save me, spare me..

Jee presses would Nate turn his back on Erika and Alison.

Only think he can promise is his word.

Nate doesn't want to do the Dana thing.. this is it.. (telling them not to tell Ali about this)

Nate will do whatever they want him to do.

Nate would really not like it if they now talk to Ali.

Jee says she's likely to come in tho.

Nate says he won't assume anything if Ali is talking to the guys.

Nate wants a heads up.. don't pull a Michelle on me.

Just asking for a second chance.

Shakes hands.

Jee says it is enticing.. But you have to think.. if it is us four.. Justin's a good player.

knock..

Justin and Jun are back..

Jun asks was it good enough?

Jee says kind of enticing.. but questions it.

Robert says he's worried about Justin regretting it.

Justin says he could regret it both ways.

Jee says ..

Nate knocks and comes in to get something he left.

Jee thinks next week Nate could switch.. be convinced to break up jee3..

Jee says Nate's words are enticing.

Jun points out that Nate is totally excluding Jun..

Robert agrees.

Justin says we can think about it.

Robert says nothing to think about.. up to you (Justin).

Robert says if Nate stays, and Erika gets HOH, then Nate, Ali still in house.. and it is the worse possible scenario.

Justin says it would suck to go thru another week with Nate on the block.

Robert says so hard to get someone out.. if Nate stays he's staying to the end. have to get right HOH, right veto.

Nate will go father than us.. he'll win.


Jee says if he stays now it is great for him (Nate)
Jee says Nate has won HOH and has won veto (Justin always claims he gave Nate HOH.. as I remember it Nate made the deal for that, not Justin)

Jee doesn't want it to seem like they are blowing Justin off.

Justin ssays group decision, not selfish.

Robert says.. if Jack and Erika win HOH put Justin up vs one of them, he'd be willing to go for veto and take Justin off block..

Robert is for that. Jee is thinking.. Justin always safe.

Robert claims yes if Robert and Justin are on block, Robert gets veto, Robert would take Justin off.

Jun says if Nate was saying this and NOT on the block, it would mean something but not with him on the block.

Jee says Nate wants to know yes or no.. all say against the rules..

Justin says hard to see Nate on the block another week.. Jun says if Nate stays his ego will grow more..

Jee agrees with Robert that Nate F-d up and that should be it.

Jee says they gave Nate a chance to come with them the first week.. and now he wants to..

Justin now says he leans toward getting Nate out.

Ryn

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 02:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The agreement seems to be to still kick him out but not tell him beforehand, not to make him think he is safe, but just not let him know.

Jun seems to be the strongest opponent to him staying.

Seamonkey

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 02:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Someone outside HOH is stomping around and sounds like they are loudly clanking dishes or something.

Erika and Ali are talking about the guys wanting to go after all the girls.. Erika thinks she is missing something. unless Nate is trying to do the old switcharoo (ed. uh huh and Ali too)

Back to HOH.. Ali is crackling, munchign loudly, etc.. says she lost her mind..

HOH.. Jee saying they've had some bad decisions, like losing Michelle, but then teamed up with Dana and Jun and look where we are now.

Justin says he'll tell Nate lots in the air.. can't tell him now..

So it SEEMS like they are still going to vote Nate out (but things change, as Jun just said).

Jun says it isn't a good feeling being up on the block.. she knows.

Jun says when someone is on the block have to take what they say with a grain of salt..

Jee says yes..

Jun says Nate said he wouldn't but he is now. Says no alliances but trying to make them now.

Justin looks sad.

Jun says Nate is used to getting his way.. asks Justin if he's ok.. yeah..

Seamonkey

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 02:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Robert says Monday isn't a day off.. it is pleading for your life day. Mondays the worst day.

Jun says the group decisions they've made and didn't go back on.. all worked.

Still have a solid group of four.

Jee says Jun and Rob are due.

Justin says so are Jack and Erika.

and then there is Ali.

Justin says Ali is going to go crazy, has to talk to her..

(ed she already was)..

so Jun, Robert and Jee are going to leave and send Ali in to Justin)..

aieee!

Jee says have fun with the crazy lady.

Aremid

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 02:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Erica talking to Ali in bedroom
Erica - it doesn't make sense, it doesn't make sense at all...reason to save Na, to go after you, me, Jun, all the girls
Female - think they are too cocky
They are munching away and hard to understand
Female - old switcheroo
Ali leaves and goes to the kitchen where Na and Jack are still eating/making sandwiches
Jack asks Ali if she likes that Mist and she says it is alright
Na asks her about it and she pauses a long time then says Yeah ( ROFL)
she leaves
Jack says something to Na about Ali being pissed ( like she shouldn't be)
Na goes outside - why the hell are you so mad
...what in the hell did I do....try to ? the house and you're (unhappy?)
Plane going over
Na - trust me Ali, relax
ali - trust you when I walk by and I heard you conniving against me - trust you, you must think I'm a fn retard
Na - says he didn't....I'll tell you later
Ali - now is just as good a time as any
Na - Ali! How do you think I felt when You did that shit with me
Ali - I didnt' turn on you though
Na - didn't turn on you
Jack comes out
Na - you got wheat bread bud
Ja - yeah, got wheat bread

( wasn't watching but think Ali has gone in)

Na - she called me a traitor cause I went in there and talked to them one time...I'm just supposed to roll over and die
Ja - I told her you'd have to go in there
Na - I went in there one time, ( says it wasn't like he was in there all week)
Ja says he went in there the first night
Plane
Na...What did she say
Ja - she didn't say anything
Na - why cause we're trying to save our own butt
Ja - I don't think she trusts me....last competition
Na says he may not even stay
Ja - did you talk to all three of them in there, were they all three
Na -= yeah, I talked to Justin....don't know anything..probably won't know until eviction night
Ja - I'll talk to them a little later...talk to Justin

Seamonkey

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 02:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ali in

Justin says he should talk to her before she goes f-ing apeshit..

She claims she already did.. but says she is avoiding Nate.

Justin says as far as he's concerned nothing has changed.

Ali wants to know if Nate is after her.

Justin says nate swore allegiance to them..

Ali is so loud! Yelling nothing, nothing..

Justin says Jee3 not coming after Ali, felt need to tell her that. Not conspiring after.
Ali says she tried to come in and they told her to get out.

Ali says she won't do it either until Jun's left.

(I think she said Jun).

Ali says Nate wants a sympathy vote.. Justin says ok..

Justin says as far as he's concerned Nate is leaving still.

Ali says what about the rest of them.. Justin says they'll do what he wants.. then says team decision.. and on.

I must leave this now. Too hard to listen to Justin and Ali.

Seamonkey

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 02:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ali now telling what she said to Erika that she could put Justin up but doesn't want to.. and that Erika thinks Ali will throw HOH so Jack or Erika can up Justin up.

Justin explaining, with his own slant what Nate said and what the others think, to Ali.

Ali says Nate would flip against them in a heartbeat.

Ali now pitching that Jack, Erika and Nate and Ali figure they can't win at the end if they are up against one of the others at the end for the prize..

Ali says they will keep trying to get Justin out..

Ali is surprised that Jack hasn't plead his case yet.

Jack saw that Nate was in there. Ali admits to being upset about it too.

Boberg

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 02:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Erika and Ali in Turtle room
e-they are too cocky, are they gonna use him to get the girls out, pull the old switheroo
a-i dont know
ali leaves room goes into kitchen where jack and nate are fixing sandwiches
Sandwich and drink talk going on
J-why is ali pissend at you
n- i know if anybody should be pissed its me, look what she did behind my back..nate goes outside where ali is
n-why are you so mad at me..what the he@@ did i do
but try to save myself
a-trust you when i hear you going against me you @@@@ing retard
n-trust me i'll tell you later
a-now as good time as any
n-how you think i felt when you turned on me
Jack comes outside
N- she thinks the world is against her, what does she expect me to do turn over and die (ali has gone inside)
J- I know i would have done it the first night (Jack being very supportive of nate trying to save himself)
J-if she was on the block it would be different
I think she is pissed at me to
N-why for trying to save your own butt..thats so selfish..why cant she settle down..i'm probably leaving anyway
j-you talked to all 3 in there
n-yea all but dont have a clue what they will decided, probably not till eviction night
J-Ill talk to them later.prefer to talk to Justin alone
Now talking about the grass.
Now talking about game with pictures under the sod.
Jun comes out. Weather discussed. Cloud cover.
Talking about sky writing..J-I dont think it meant sh@@..N-I dont know man..since Dana left maybe someone knows she is there and just did that
J-I'd love to go to Hawaii
Jun and Jee and Rob out talking about smoking now down in chairs on patio.
Jee-this game is literally crazy
Jun-level heads are better
Jun-Is this anyone's banana boat?
E and J-think it is Davids.
R-it is soooo hot
J-we did good Rob
R-i'll feel so bad if he gets put up cause then he'll be right
Now cigarette and quitting talk going on.
R-seriously man quit in the house and dont ever restart
Ju-does your mom try to make you stop
Jee-everyday she tries to make me stop(smoking the gary?)
Jee-she knows I'll utimately do what i want to do but she doesnt want me to hurt myself..she tries to make deals with me..like I'll help you buy a car..ahh shut up mom.
(posting and switching feeds)

Ryn

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 02:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam one was briefly on Jun and Erika in the bathroom. it looks like Jun told Erica about Nathan and what he told the guys in the HoH (or at least part of it).

She seemed to be cautioning Erika so she could let Jack know how to act and keep him from ticking off the guys.

Seamonkey

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 02:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ali asks if Jun knows something, doesn't want Jun to know..

Ali says Erika and Jack tell her every day that these guys will come after Ali.

Jee and Robert are now in there.

Ali is getting loud again.

Aremid

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 02:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun - who would have thought 5 days ago...
Missed some
Jee -.... Now people are confronting me more
Jun said something back to him
Jee - maybe I'm kidding, maybe I'm not
Jee says something about what do you think Rob
Jun - who can say Na wouldn't have
They talk about how many cigs Jee has left, one pack, then he is quitting according to Robert
(Rob is telling someone across the yard)

Timed out
Camera 4
Ali is talking to Justin
jus - and it was appealing because I knew he wouldn't come after me, and if Ja left...Erica would be the only one to have to worry about getting HOH, and that is why I think eventually Na would have
Ali - eventually?
Jus - says it has been a ? week...he was really really grateful I considered it....I was like I really tried....but
Ali - what did they say
Jus ...I swear to God I don't run those guys..Robert's like you know, you don't want to play the game with regrets
Ali ? you
Jus -everybody...he just felt like he didn't have a fair shot at it
Ali - ....think they could win...
Jus - who
Ali...Jack, Erica...here at the end
Ali = I'd like to be in the final four
Jus...who ever we want to win that 1/2 million dollars is going to win it...piss us off....
Ali -....have a choice between one of them
Jus - yeah, I know
Ali - I'm sure he is going to worry now that Na has been in here for a few hours
Jus - did you tell
Ali - he saw
Jus - good, I was going to tell you to...
Jus - he (Na?) is going to ask, I'm sure
Jus...whoever we want out is going out
Ali says something about Jun
Jus - yeah, but she doesn't know that
Ali...I tell them that all the time...Ja and Erika tell me everyday that you guys are coming after me next...like it is ok Ali
Jus - do they think you are stupid Ali
Rob came in says something that makes ali laugh - Jee is in there too
ali - and you call me conniving
Ali - I want to vote with the majority...you guys tell me ....
Jus ...do whatever you want that is not us
Ali - you guys don't care
Male - do what you want for you
They discuss the upcoming competition
Ali thinks it will be physical

Ryn

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 02:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Erika then called Jack over outside under the pretense of cleaning the turtles.... she passed on the info from Jun but it was VERY quiet so I can't tell exactly what she said. But Jack said "ok"

the only bt I caught was "jun said" and "go in the HoH"

switching to cam 3 which has Ali, Robert, jee and justin (I think)...

Alison seems to be coaching them on the HoH competition - memorizing, etc....

yup - she is coaching them on things that have happened.

"How many burger kings in the parachute contes" 8

least - Alison and Jack, - she knows the # for each - and the total....

Jee - "seems like you are on target"

Justin - how many remaiing HGs have won the veto?

Alison - just one (excluding nathan) - Robert.

They can't believe they are only halfway....

Boberg

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 02:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ali in HOH room..Just tell me I want to vote with the majority..J3 all there
now discussing what next HOH competion might be about. Ali thinks it will be physical.Discussing what letters each had in Laundry competition.
Talking who had how many points in suchand such game. Quizzing Ali on different possible quiestions that might be asked. Rob stating they only have 4wks left after Wed cause of Scotts departure. Could be easy if it goes how we want.
Ali-describing an immunity contest and maybe BB will throw one in..also how the X factor has played an important part in this game.
Ju-think the next Luxury comp will be for the whole house
Ali-talk about how they cried last year when someone got the letter from home..we dont even have Am. Choice this year..feels like we're getting boring
R-can you cut my hair later?
A-yea later cause it is so hot out there
A-if did have Am Choice bet you would get Rob like letter from your daughter
R-that be so @@@@@@ coool
Jee-can she write shes 7
R-yea she can write.she really good
Sound suddenly changes to outside. (posting)

Boberg

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 03:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just paraphrasing:earlier: Nate, Jun, and erika in living room while Ali was in HOH. Nate telling them how ali attacked him for going in the HOH and trying to save himself.
Everyone then left HOH and Erika called in with Justin-Jus explains to her what had been going on with Nate making his appeal..E says she would respect him if he didnt at least try. then Justin says he call Ali in cause she was out there going ape @@@@. Calmed her down...Jus says he thought E might be upset too so wanted to talk to her..E says she is fine..respects what Nate trying to do..They agree Ali playing both sides.
General chit chat about various things that have happened in game..Friendly talk.

Boberg

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 03:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Outside: N-hope your happy ali
A-yea cause your an a@@hole
N-yea well your true colors are out
A-I told you not to talk to me so what gives you the right to talk to me now
A-I must say you ar a lot smarrter than i thought you were
N-no I am not cause I used the veto on you
A-yu have a lot of nerve
N-I told you ali I did tryto get you out
A-I know what you said
N-How
A-they told me
N-What did I say then, what did they tell you
A-what you said..she just blubbers nothing specific and the tells him not to talk to her.
A-Jack the pool is great
R- where is a towel
A-dont think we have any cause we sent them all out (Ali in pool, Nate playing BB, Rob and Jack outiside somewhere)
A- and Rob teasing about Jus wearing same clothes everyday..Rob in pool also..said justins socks can walk on their own.
A-DR says you dated him..was he like that then
Lots of laughing
Nate gets in pool also now.
Discussing temperature. guess 90
Discussing sunblock
Jun comes outside..Ali offers her "thing" for Jun to use
Jee-gotta put on sunblock before I come out
Nate is whiter than I am
Ali=u are a white boy, you are the whitest boyI ever met
A-you take everything I ever say and turn it around..she then dumps him off of float..he gets back on
A-Rob youstill gonna go to Vegas
R-yea
Ali names places she wants to go and see in Vegas
Justin called to DR
Nate floating at one end of pool, Ali sitting at other. No talking now
Nate floats to Alis side and they play. Seems ALi has nates ring and threatens to throw it outside of the house
N-wouldnt surprise me Ali
Ali out of pool rubbing lotion on Jee..Jumps back in and tumps over nate
N and ALi whispering..loud plane overhead..cant hear.
Lots of whispering but I cannot hear a word..Long loud plane.

Boberg

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 03:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Justin in HOH, gathers snacks and hums to self.
Listening to music in HoH bed. (posting and out of here for a while< will post for help)

Smyledm

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 03:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
BB made them move chess pieces away from door said they will have a lock down.
Justin, Jee, Rob, Nat playing bb. Allie laying out. Erica, Jun, & Jack sitting & watching talking about to hot to play bb.

BB just said pull shades go in and now in lock down.

Stinkyhalf

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 04:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
not much going on guys playing cards all 4 cams

Starr

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 05:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Not much going on right now all 4 feeds are on..Nate..Justin...Robert and Jee playing Basketball..

Watcher

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 05:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
(can't stay....just one quick post)

Apparently still not too much happening.

All 4 cams outside on Nate, Jee, Robert and Justin playing basketball.

Grooch

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 05:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Feed 1 - J3 and Nate out on court playing BB ball
Can't hear anything so going to switch feeds (Nate makes a 3 pointer)

Feed 2 - More BB ball and still no sound

Feed 3 - More of the same

Feed 4 - Surprise, surprise! More bb ball

Stinkyhalf

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 05:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Looks like rob, Nate, Jee, Ali in pool... no talking or not much

June, cooking

Erica, putting on makeup

Jack out by pool

Sbeachy

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 06:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun still cooking.

Alli, Erika, and Nate in HT. Alli is complaing about being in a rotten mood. Nate asked Erika how her hangover was, she said she didn't really have one. Erika suggest's that Alli might be having the beginning of a migraine. Says maybe your just hungry. Jun is cooking chicken lo mein. They missed having the Subway. Nate crawled out of HT.(switching feeds)
F1&2
Jun talking to Jack while cooking. Came in the middle, didn't catch what they were talking about. Nate comes in, he and Jack make plans to lift later tonight. Jun spoke too softly, but Jack responded, yeah, but I know he's pushing hard(Nate). Jun tells Jack that Nate was basically securing Justin, but Justin wants to do what's best for the group. He almost swayed the group, but, Justin is also looking out for the whole group. Jack left the room, looks loke dinner is just about ready.

Sbeachy

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 06:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack left the kitchen, Jun is still cooking. Robert comes in, Jun says Ja and Erika keep coming in too find out who they were keeping. She says Jack is scared. Jun told him it was a group decision, but she also kept saying Justin was swaying, Rob says but Nathan is still out right-Jun says yeah as for I am concerned, once I make up my mind, it'll take something drastic to change it. Jee is in the kitchen, dinner will be ready in about 20 mins. Jun was complaining that Jack was driving her nut's, she just wanted to fricking cook. Rob walks by the picture wall, and says check it out. The last 2 rows will be all ours-the rest will be b/w. Jun tells Jee that this week she's not going to go for it, just wanted to let him know.(HOH I assume). She tells him he can go for it if he wants too, but as they are not target's this week, she's not going for it. Robert and Justin are the target's. Banter about the snake-eye's they had for breakfast, Jun tells him to shut-up, Jee used to love them when they were happily in love. Rob says where you guys ever happily in love, Jee says under his breath, well I thought so...but. The J3 are now hanging out by the BR(gotta go phone call)

Neta39

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 06:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
new at this 1&2 on kit rob and j doing hottub maint