Archive through July 27, 2003
TV ClubHouse: Archive: Big Brother IV - July 2003 Live Feed Archives:
July 27, 2003 - Day 23 - Nathan uses POV - Alison Veto'd - Dave Nominated:
Archive through July 27, 2003
Whit4you | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 03:19 am     Dave = You're worried about us going against you Nate - No I just don't want you to think I am stabbing you in the back D - right now it's 5 on 5 - one of us goes this week so that's 4. WE win HOH we are tied up. One of us gets HOH - one of them is gone. Then if we win another one - then Jun's going to come back to our side. If worse case - we were all going to go against nate - we'd go in to take you out, then Allie and I would be gone. The 2nd they were to get you two out - it'd be every man for himself in that whole group. Jack and Erika together can't do shi* - so there's no way they'd think about that. I'm just pi**ed off tht Jun is doing what she is. Nate - she's playing the field and I've always known that. D - I caught them in the bathroom talking - Nate - it's crazy tonight Allie - all cause I opened my mouth Dave - as far as your decision - I'm not going to campaign against Allie Nate - I just don't want you to think I'm stuck ina position - I wish we'd have won HOH - if I use it and they do put Allie - Jun is scared for her life - I made perfect sense - I told them Jun is a target - and said if Nate takes me off the veto - and you do not vote for David to stay, you are leaving. We know next week I'll get HOH - and I will throw her a** out - I have the tiebreaker. That will keep you in here. Nate - but if I can sway Jun's vote to keep you in - and that's what I'd like to do Erika knows who the weekest link is .. I'm trying to do what I can. Allie - the only way we can do this is through Jun. Nate - so you need to talk to Erika without Jack there - that's why I want to keep all this a secret untl the veto Allie - we will threaten her life if she doesn't vote jack out . The only other person could be Robert because he's struggling right now. |
Seamonkey | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 03:19 am     Ali says Justin won't go back on his word, she knows he won't. Nate says you gave your word too, Ali says basically she won't live up to that, too bad. Then she gives her word that if she stays past Wednesday, she won't hurt him or her. (uh.. your word?) Ali says Nate made her cry, no guy makes her cry. Nate says everyone knows now that you're going to get off the block. Ali says so what. Ali says they all know I'm going to win that check. Yikes. Nate says that every week Justin makes deals with each and every person. Ali keeps saying you can't be mad at me. Now Dave comes in.. Says thinking about all this.. at first I understood how you are afraid of going next week, and just choosing Ali over me for the team, but I think you are scared we are going to put you up. Ali interrrupts Dave (grr).. trying to deflect what Dave is saying. Ali says "i'm not staying. I'm leaving on Wednesday. Dave says one of us gets HOH, one of them leaves, etc etc and Jun will come over. Dave says if we (lost feed)\ Dave is trying to tell Nate no way we are after you. Pissed off at Jun. Playing the field. Dave says he caught Jun and Jee talking in the bathroom. Ali back ragging on how no one appreciates what she did with Justin tonight. Dave says he won't campaign against Ali she knows everything about this place. Ali says: Jun is scared for her life. Ali made perfect sense talking to Justin. Now Ali wants to threaten Jun that she has to vote for David to stay.. keeps Dave in here.. Jack out. And they threaten Jun that if she doesn't she goes up next. Ali says everyone knows SHE will get HOH next week if she wants it. Nate says Erika knows that Jack is the weakest link over there. Nate says Dave must talk to Erika .. and tells him that Erika already said Ali was stronger than Jack (ed. this is true, Erika has said that) Ali says we threaten Jun, she'll go with us. Ali also thinks Robert might go with them!! (ed. of course she thought Justin would go with them too). |
Kalihiwahine | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 03:21 am     Allie in bed with Nate. Asking him what is he going to do. He says what she wants him to do. He says that now everyone will know what he's going to do. She says, so what they'll know tomorrow. She is confident that she will win the competitions and they will be alright. She tells Nate that he made her cry and he says that he didn't mean to. Dave comes into room and gets into bed with them. Telling them about Dana & gang conversation earlier. Trying to figure out the numbers and competitions. Is upset with Jun & her playing. Allie saying that it's all her fault because she talked to Justin. They are talking about strategy. Allison is sure that she will get HOH next week and will put up Dana's a$$. Dave thinks that he can sway Jun's vote.
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Seamonkey | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 03:23 am     Nate and Ali now say if Dave goes on the block THEY will get him off, guaranteed.. (ed. hmmmm, sounds like Jee to Michelle). going to quad.. Jack and Erika in tortoise room.. very quiet. Cam three.. back to Ali, Dave and Nate. Dave says he always expects the worst. Nate says don't talk to Erika yet. Dave hates to admit it about Jack, Nate says but Jack doesn't do anything for us and Erika will agree. Ali is glad they talked now. |
Seamonkey | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 03:29 am     Tortoise room still dead quiet.. As I left, Ali and Nate seemed pleased.. well he said so much for the element of surprise, but Ali pleased. Ali just crawled half on top of Nate and covered them up and I refuse to cover more ov her tonight. Dave comes into tortoise room.. Jack immediately sits up. Dave says basically told them we were with them, not putting Nate up. Dave not telling the main point of the convo. Says Nate is still up in the air. Erika not commenting. Dave says Dana tells him she won't put him up, but he doesn't believe her really. Jack says could be Erika. What a sh!tpot that is. Jack plans to talk to Nate away from Ali. Dave says Ali has Nate convinced that she will win HOH. Jack says she's smart but like the rest of us, she missed a silly question. Erika says she didn't miss anything, just was beaten to the buzzer. Jack says same with him. |
Kalihiwahine | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 03:30 am     Dave back in room with Erika & Jack. Saying that he talked with Nathan about the numbers. Does not really tell everything that was discussed. Jack will talk with Nathan tomorrow AWAY from Allison. Jack wants to know what assurance Dave got from Dana about getting nominated or not because he (Jack) did not hear it. Dave says she said it right there when she was in room earlier. Everything quiet. They're going to sleep. |
Seamonkey | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 04:21 am     Since the last post Ali and Nate have been talking, giggling, playing around, still are but now actually quiet. Ah, Ali went to the other double bed.. BB just confirmed that with the cam. Jun and Dana talked, got up to get TP from the SR, both peed, etc and went back to HOH, talked and now seem to ba asleep Oh but Dana did get up, rush in and wake up Robert, Jee and Justin, kissed them all, but mostly fooled around with Justin, then left. Tortoise room people all sleeping, it seems. Feed 1: Jee3: Robert, Jee, Justin in a row. Feed 2 Jun and Dana in HOH Feed 3: Nate (Ali off cam) Feed 4: Jack, Erika, Dave good night all.. |
Wolf | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 06:28 am     F1: Jun up. Goes to BR. Finishes up and brushes teeth. Walks thru kitchen. Back to HOH room as Dana wakes up. Jun climbs into bed and they go back to sleep. |
Morning_Magic | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 08:01 am     7:50 a.m. Jack got up to use bathroom and went back to bed. Nate lifted up his head and looked around, was restless for a bit. All quiet. Feeds 1 and 4 have been transposed. |
Hamsterlady | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 09:07 am     F1: Dave, Erika, & Jack asleep (Dave keeps tossing & turning) F2: HOH room - Dana & Jun sleeping F3: Nate asleep by himself F4: Blue room with 3 HG's asleep |
Auntie | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 09:54 am     nearly noon central time and the hgs are still asleep. (ed: i will go to the mall, see a movie, and start dinner, then come back around texas sunset time and see if there is anything to transcript.) |
Jbenn | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 10:29 am     Just caught a convo between E and J, very hard to hear. J says "he (Nathan?) wants to seperate an already seperated (group)? She (Ali?) is a good player but.....and then I couldn't hear any more |
Kalihiwahine | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 10:48 am     BB announcement: Hello Houseguests, It's going to be hot out there today. Don't forget your sunscreen! |
Seamonkey | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 11:16 am     A little smack talk from Ali and Nate while Jun was in the ssame room getting dressed. People all over milling about. Jee is very pleased with something he got out of the fridge. Jack making coffee. Erika outside.. looks like Dave outside too (seen through the windwow over Jack's shoulder). Ah.. they heard me.. feeds alive outside. Jee, Daveand it sounds like Justin and/or Robert.. guy talk about driving.. OK.. Jee, Robert and Dave.. Justin must be inside.. talking about driving. Erika also out still.. asks Dave to open door, he goes in for sunglasses. As Erika goes in she shouts out to Alison. Jee recommending the orange juice highly to Robert.. Jee asking about the pool pumps.. Quad. Justin brushing teeth, Ali going thru the room.. Erika shows up in there. someone in shower. Now Ali and Justin both brushing teeth, NO convo. Person in shower has dark hair.. but sounds like Nate.. Nate talking to Justin about the alcohol, needing to sweat it out. Justin says he'll sweat it out. etc.. |
Seamonkey | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 11:30 am     All cams on Ali, then all cams are on outside.. Jee, Robert, Dana.. Think they are trashing Justin for some of the confrontations last night.. evidently Justin apologized to Dana this morning and Jee wondered why.. Jee says no more alcohol for that boy. (ed. Robert makes no comment but probably thinks that watching the "tapes" from BB4 will ensure his sobriety for years to come) Looks like Jun's torso/butt next to Dana.. All cams inside, where Ali is putting on makeup to go with her pink bikini.. Erika pats Ali on the butt as she goes by.. Ali asks what is wrong . Ali whispering about Jun voting for Jack? Can only hear a few words. Nate is in shower, now out.. Erika says that could work, has a potential. Ali says if SHE was in that situation that's what she'd do. Ali now fluffing hair, spraying it. Nate asks what's on your mind, to Erika.. brushes. Erika thinks Jun's vote is a longshot. Nate basically shrugs.. not really caring if it is Jack or Dav who goes. Can hear a HAH that has to be Dave. Nate brushes, Erika plucks. Nate says Dana hasn't cleaned the bathroom.. Erika says no, Erika has washed the sink a few times, very hard to clean that sink (ed. negative product placement for that type of sink) Jack comes in, asks Nate if he's thought any more about what they talked about. Jack says if you choose to exercise the veto, make sure that is in our interest. Nate (or his gonads) says it is our interest, Ali is the smartest girl in the house. Jack says they'll probably put up Dave. Nate. yeah. Then talks about negotiating. Nate says if they don't get HOH he'll be out, probably. Jack tells Erika that Justin and Dana are in a frenzy that they really agree with Nate, that they fear Ali staying in the house. Fear Ali in HOH more than they fear David. Erika says she knows. Jack asks if Erika talked to Nate.. Erika says just what he already said to you .. she looks troubled (ed. probably because she omitted the part about them trying to enlist Jun to vote out JACK). Now the feeds are all Jack in the kitchen. |
Seamonkey | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 11:43 am     Nate called again to DR (last heard he couldn't find his mic) David yells NO, Boycott the DR!! Jack says "Gas the Houseguests" (ed.I do believe more than one viewer considered this last night) Jack asks about Dave's BK order. Feeds now outside, but still hear Jack.. now over to outside. Dana says if Ali isn't evicted NO MORE NICE DANA ANYMORE, I will be so.. (and she threw in a MFer, directed at Nate). Dana says she will say, "since I have to be more of a MAN than you will ever be.." Jee cannot wait to see that.. Dana has a new hairdo and in all honesty it looks like a troll do.. or perhaps Pebbles without the bone. Dana is talking to Jun or anyone in earshot. Jun talking about DR but didnt' catch what she said. Robert is talking too, out there. Jun goes in. VERY loud crow is weighing in, competing with Dana. Robert says if we DO get Dave out this weekj.. Jun returns. Robert sniffs. BB: DANA, JUN, please put on your mics. Jun asks Robert what he thinks.. Robert is level-headed like me.. Robert says we have too, as much as I like Dave. Dana's guts tell her Nate is not gonna use it.. Dana thinks if he uses it he's pissing Erika and Jack off.. Jun says Nate thinks he has them anyway. Jun thinks she should have a convo with Nate. Dana say that she won't talk to Nate (even if, as Jun says, it might get him to not take Ali off the block) because if she asks to talk to him and he won't, then Dana will be even more pissed than she is now. BB calls DANA to DR. Jun sighs and just llies there. |
Seamonkey | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 11:50 am     Feed goes inside, Nate and Jack in kitchen, Ali goes thru, Jack says "hey, Ali" Ali has towel on over bikini, goes outside.. Robert follows her out.. Nate follows him out.. Jack follows Nate out. Cam follows all of them.. Now Ali is flopped down next to Jun (ed. Dana still gone) Ali says today's the 26th, Jun says 27th. Cam flips to closeup of Dave talking to Erika.. Dave saying already after so many of them.. like he's trying to figure if he's a goner or not. Erika says "this is all the man troll's fault" "Can we kill the man troll now?" Erika HATES her.. Jack comes in.. this is in desert room. Dave says Dude's usin' it man. Cuz he's insecure. Doing it for all the wrong reasons. Jack says the other side's in a panic too. Erika says he's panicking. Jack says Nathan has been very insecure ever since Justin was trying to recruit Dave and Jack. Erika says it goes way way way back (ed. WAY back, three weeks?) Erika says she doesn't blame him.. If it were we, I'd do the same thing, take one of you guys off. Jack says Nate started with a power base of all those women over there and he has no one but Ali. Erika says he'd be all alone without Ali. Jack says it was kinda murky last night but did Dana say something about you not going up last night? Dave says he said he's gonna use it, I'm gonna go and Dana said if she had wanted him out she would have put him up. Jack says you felt Nate was avoiding you yesterday.. Dave says as far as strategy. |
Seamonkey | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 11:54 am     Dave says nate is going about it for all the wrong reasons.. Erika and Jack very thoughtful.. Dave says he's going to F around with Dana see what he can find out.; Jack says Dana in DR. Erika says she already talked to Dana today, Dana not happy, doesn't want Dave to go. Dave says but she'll put me up. Erika says if she knew this was going to happen she'd have tried harder for that fricken veto. Dave too. checking quad. ALL on bathroom area with JED3. |
Seamonkey | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 11:59 am     Jee comes in to try to fix the TP holder? Ali called in to DR, immediately starts the "voicegiggle" why are they calling me in-what am I wearing? Clearly stoked. Two FOTHS, Two Jack washing face. Erika come sin to watch Jee be the fixit man in WC. Erika asks if they got TP.. Jack says yeah. Erika looms over Jee but says doesn't need to go in there but she's holding her bikini so Jee says.. go ahead. Jack is shaving. Feeds outside now. Jun jumping up to avoid spray of water. Looks like Jun and Dana with hose and bucket doing laundry. (ed will be gone awhile, posting for help) |
Seamonkey | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 12:01 pm     Actually they are doing a strategy shuffle since Dave and Erika know that there is a move to recruit Jun to put Jack out and keep Dave.. Anyway, I also have to go and posters might pick up some convos of interest.. Dana's pissed, Ali is in your face so.. could be fruitful |
Prism72 | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 12:09 pm     Erica just called to DR. Robert and Nate are just sitting in chairs outside, not really saying anything. Ali and Dave in Desert Room. Ali says she told Nate this morning not to use the veto. Says that he doesn't think he has a chance without her. Dave agrees and says that Nate is really insecure ... thinks we're going to turn on him. Ali -- I don't think he thinks that. I really don't. Ali -- Why is Erica mad? Dave -- B/c she thinks we're going to evict Jack. Dave says there's always a chance that Dana won't put him up if Nate uses the veto. Ali says that everybody went nuts last night ... it was crazy. |
Seamonkey | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 12:09 pm     Erika, next to Dana carefully approaches Dana about would Dana's group maybe want Jack to go.. DAVID interrupts (ed. grrr) with a bug, Dana freaks.. Dave leaves and BB calls ERika into the DR (ed. methinks BB really wants Ali to stay). But Dana does pursue it with Erika.. and ERika says that way Jack wouldn't be sequestered, etc.. Dana asks Erika if Jack wants this.. Erika shrugs and says well, no.. but lets Dana know it is ok with her.. Desert room.. Dave tells Ali he's gone. Ali says maybe not. Dave says you are no way getting Jun to vote with them.. Ali thinks Dave is wrong. Dave says Nate's mind is made up, really insecure. Ali says she told Nate this morning not to save her but Nate needs Ali. Dave says Nate's insecurity works for Ali. Ali is sure Jun will come over. Ali asks why Erika is so mad. Dave says because she's losing Dave or Jack. Erika agrees that they won't get Jun over to their side. Ali says there's always a chance that I won't get vetoed off. Dave says Erika is working on Dana now (ed. was until BB called her in). Dave says Dana made it clear she doesn't want him to go up. Ali says "WHY DON'T YOU F HER?" (DANA) Ali says why did everyone go buck wild last night just because I was in the hottub with Justin. Ali pouting that SHE wasn't even wasted. Ali doesn't even, like, want to deal with this anymore. This is gay. (Dave and Ali are in desert room) Ali whispers about people wigging out. She's on Erika's bed. |
Prism72 | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 12:14 pm     Ali says she had three wine coolers last night. Dave had three beers ... and reminds her of the champagne. Ali -- I don't want to deal with this anymore, this is gay. Camera switches to Dana and Nate in kitchen talking. Nate says he has mixed emotions. Dana reminds him of when he was HOH and she won veto, he didn't want her to use it and she didn't. He says he understand where she's coming from. Dana -- is there someone you'd rather see go? Nate -- i know you already have someone in mind.. it's up to you. Dana -- i don't want to see Dave go, i like Dave. That will be hard to do ... I think he's good for the game. I don't know what I'm going to do yet, i'm just as confused as you are at this point. This is crazy. What time is it? Nate -- 12:12 ... we start at 1:00. |
Seamonkey | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 12:13 pm     Dana has approached Nate in the kitchen. Asks what he's thinking. She says he's feeling like she was last week. He claims he hasn't decided, last minute decision. She brings up that when SHE had veto and He had HOH she respected his wishes. But she understands things change. Nate decides to do some dishes. Dana asks if there is someone Nate would rather see go? Dana says just from an input perspective.. either one of the two she has to choose from. Nate claims total innocence on the matter. Dana says after yesterday she doesn't want Dave to go.. Dave is good for the game. Says she is probably just as confused as Nate is.. Says it is crazy. It is 12:12 .. ceremony at 1pm!! Back to Ali and Dave.. now she is flirting with HIM. Separate beds but playing footsie.. posting. will return since veto meeting is so soon. |
Sannper | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 12:19 pm     dave and allie talking in bedroom, dave says he is gone allie-told nate not to use veto, but nate feels he won't make it without her dave-nate is insecure allie-why is erica so mad dave-she is losing jack allie-there is always a chance I won't get veto off dave-there is always a chance I won't be put up dana sounds like she does not want to put me up allie- why did every one go nuts last night because I was talking to Justin in the HT dave-everyone was smashed allie- saying that she was NOT DRUNK last night change to kitchen with dana and nate dana-tell me what your thinking nate-I really don't know, mixed emotions dana-when you were HOH you did not want me to use veto and I didn't nate-I understand but it will be a last minute decision nate-look at all these dishes, guess I will help out dana-is there anyone you rather see go, just from your perspective lost reply with water running dana-I don't want dave to go dana -what time is it 12:12, cermony starts at 1 back to outside dana- I don't want to see dave go, refering to nate, he wants people to sweat, relates she asked nate if he rather see Jack or Dave go and he said he didn't care Erica- Jack would be so hurt dana talking to Robert, you better go after him when I am gone, if he wins this I am going to kill someone back to kitchen, allie working on nate allie-we can win every competition from here (ok finger break) |
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