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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Big Brother IV - July 2003 Live Feed Archives: July 27, 2003 - Day 23 - Nathan uses POV - Alison Veto'd - Dave Nominated: Archive through July 27, 2003

Ryn

Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 01:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They are ganging up on dave - telling him what he should do. That he should put up Nate and Alison next week.

Dave says if Erika agrees he will go with it (to get out Nathan and Alison the next two weeks it seems).

(ed - thats it - I am out)

Fuzzyb

Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 01:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
feed 1 and 2 Jee, dave, Robert, Justin, and Dana
dana is telling everyone not to talk game with Nathan. Make him 'pee' his pants all week.
Justin says he know how persuasive Alison can be.
They all are saying Nate is a wimp, not a man.
They do not understand his logic- dave is in HOH too.
Jee said that they all respect the game. Nate does not.

Seamonkey

Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 01:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ahh.. Jee3 minus Jee plus Dana are offering Dave to make a two week deal and they will keep him.

Dana says she saw the box closed and she knew it.

Insecure, whimpering little man..

Dana says she has four votes so whatever they decide will go, Dave should work on Erika.

(ed. are they just trying to keep Dave happy until he goes?)

Dave says he gets to say some funny sh!t when Julie asks him on the nomination chair.

Jee comes in.

Robert asks if Dana is ok

Checking on Jun and Ali in kitchen. Too much noise, sounds like Jun is doing damage control to Ali.

Justin says you can't let them in the room to talk to you.. They all say to DAVE, not to talk to the others.

Dana mentions Erika wanting to sacrifice Jack.

Dana wants to make the next days the most miserable of Nate's life, make him regret.

Dave says he knew the second Nate got it he would use it.

Justin says he knows how persuasive Ali can be..

Dana asks Jee what he thinks.. Jee is fine with those two going (Nate and Ali)

Dave says at beginning of game, everyone would be as smart as me, or smarter, but now I see Nate isn't.

They are ribbing Jee about being fixit.

Dave says you just have to show Jee a new game of solitaire every day and he's happy.. Jee says he wants to learn something every day.

All in that room Jee3, Dana, Dave are down with the plan, Jack going. Dana says she thinks Jack should know, not find out on national tv, just before.

Ali is drying dishes for Jun.

Nate outside with Jack and Erika.

Justin says Ali thinks she can win, like she stole the answers from the teacher.

Dana says Nate is on her sh!tlist better not try to talk to Dana.

Jee says we have to tell Jun, she has to be in on this.

Jee just doesn't understand Nate. Screwed himself.

Justin says maybe Nate thought if Dave left then Nate could run the other side..

Jun comes in with Dana..

Dave leaves.

Robert says.. we do this we can never look back and regret it.. no crying,

Jun says Erika, Jack and Ali outside. Nate asked if she was mad (this is the old convo).

They say we can't tell Nate that Dave is staying, Nate needs to be in shock for HOH .. same plan as last week.

better check on Dave and Erika.. yikes BB went to Ali, Jack and Nate.. blocking that.. Erika is in kitchen now.

Jun says we are thinking angry forget Nate, get strongest player out.. so they are swinging away from saving Dave.

Justin says everyone loves Dave, whoever goes this week won't be sequestered..

Jun says we want to have Jack around.. others starting to be swayed. Dana says we have a couple of days to think..

FOTH.

Dana says Dave knows we like him, want him, respect him.. Jun and Jee say Dave could go against them again. Dave will get us out.

Jun says we have to stick to the plan, fiip flopping isn't good.

Jun says unless something drastic comes up..


Erika knocks, goes in.

Erika says she is doing sh!tty.

Says she is mad as hell at Nate.

Someone asks where Nate stands with them now.

Erika says yes it was wise for Nate to do what he did. (??)

They all tell Erika that will bite Nate in the a$$ (ed. Erika's dooming Dave)..

So is Nate on your hit list..

Erika says she didn't sleep last night, doesn't know how she feels now (ed. fatal error, the heck you don't know)

Dana says if she was Nate she'd want to have David around more than Alison.

Jee says don't you feel like he turned on you guys as well?

Erika says all said and done, the $500K goes to only one person in the house.

Does keeping Dave around mean enough to you that you would make it a plan to put Nate out here next week?

Erika still silent..

Jun says Erika's not going to say what she's thinking.. you are smarter than you want us to think you are.

Erika says she doesn't know, hard to decide.. (between Jack and Dave).. she waffles, gamewise they both have their strengths (ed what on earth is she thinking????)


BB ragging on Dana to move her mic, reattach it..

Jun is trying to calm them, that this wasn't THAT much of a surprise.


Erika says alright, leaves.

They laugh.

Jun, I thought you were gonna fight her.

Jun says Nate and Ali already have Erika.

Robert says why are we going to help Nate out (by saving Dave)

Jun says Dave knows how to play people, he will go with Nate and Ali.. playing on emotions Fing Nate, we are F-ing ourselves.


Jee says he agrees with Jun.. have to split them out.

Jun says talking to Erika was a waste of time.. I dunno, I dunno..

Jun says no way any of them will join us.

Of course Erika wants Dave to stay. Dave wants to save himself.

Attempt to check on Dave and Erika and Jack.

Jack says here we are, both on the block.

Seamonkey

Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 01:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Justin and Dana want to foil Nate's plan and keep Dave. Jun and Jee want to boot Dave anyway.

Robert now is with Jee/Jun that Dave would use Nate against them.. but he'll be bored without Dave.

Dana says we all have to agree.

Jack says they'll call him in and ask if he gets HOH next week will I put Nate up..Jack is saying this to Nate.. Jack says Justin doesn't trust him anymore

Dave is over with the tortoises.

Nate asks how Erika feels.. pissed?

Jack says she is pissed but Jack showed her the strategic need to do what you did.. and Erika is closer to David.


Nate regaling jack with his wheel/deal with Dana

Dave fidgiting with pool ring and chess players.

Seamonkey

Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 02:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Still lobbying in the HOH.. Jee and Robert saying dump Dave, Justin and Dana wanting to keep Dave.

Dana says the only reason she wants Dave here is to go after Nathan. Robert says whoever stays will go after Nate (ed. I don't think so..

Now Dana and Robert get all all excited now convinced that Jack and Erika will come to them to get Nate and Ali out.. so Dave is toast.

Dana says we tell Jack and Erika you are safe for two weeks, get rid of Nate and Ali . Robert knows they will agree.. so we get out a strong player, Dave and then get out Nate and Ali.

Justin isn't convinced, really really wants to believe Dave. What good is Jack and Erika?

Dana says tell them the day of voting..

Jee says they'll like the odds.

Dana says she guarantees it.

(ed. just shaking head, side to side..)

Justin says somebody needs to do something for us..

Jee says David did turn on us.

Jee says David worries him.

David tried to ask what Jee would have done had veto been used. Jee sees this as the mark of a brilliant player, dangerous.

Seamonkey

Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 02:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Justin believes that Dave really really really wants to be sequestered.. if we do him this favor and save him he's going to appreciate it.. etc., put a value on what we do for him..

Dana says "you guys" are exceptions to the rule that they appreciated what Dana did for them..

If Nathan pissed Dave off enough, we'll just have to see what happens in next two days.

Jee says he can see both ends.. hard to decide.

on and on and on.. Dana says she tried to tell Jee not to use the pawn, but she couldn't tell them at that time about the alliance against the exes.

Seamonkey

Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 02:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee3 are in HOH celebrating how wonderful they are.. Justin says we are in here, in the HOH, in control.

Jee says I know now why they all think you are so strong..

Justin laughs and says he just feeds info..

Jee says be careful..

You and Dana got it back to back and I could participate in decision making.
Justin and Jee alone now.. Justin says Nate isn't prepared for the stuff Ali will do to a guy physically, tried it on him last night. Jee says she even got touchy with him.

Outside.. Dave and Jack sitting in chairs, Erika too.

Ali there too.. haircuts after lunch.

Dave says I want it just like Robert.. :)

Says want to look just like Robert too.

Ali can't do that..

Jee says Nate knows that none of us respect him.

Justin leaves HOH.. Jee in there alone.

Cam zooms in on Jee's feet (ed. there must be a foot fetishist camera person today.. there have been foot-zooms all day.

Jee now on couch flipping cards.

Dana trying to prop opoen HOH door.

Nephele

Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 02:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It's 2:39 BB time and everyone is eating Burger King for lunch.

Nathan got called in to the DR and he said, "I'm not done eating!" So someone said, "Take your cookies with him." Didn't see anything in his hand, but he's in the DR.

Nathan's back- fast trip into the DR.

Nathan- I need to get this alcohol out of my system man.

Fuzzyb

Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 04:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just an update on live feeds:
Jee says he has been driving a mini van since he was 16.
Alison is cutting everyone's hair.
Dave and Erika are playing cards.
Jee, Jack and Robert are in the pool, Nate is getting in.
Apparently Jack lost both big toe nails running marathons- couldn't understand the story- it happened in 1979, jee comments he was born in 1979 and Robert in 1970.
Alison jumped in the pool.

Fuzzyb

Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 04:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun and Dana in hoh- feed 3 and 4.
Jun commented she gets a 'fat' feeling whenever she looks at her
Dana started singing CD. We get FOTH and then Dana goto diary room
Out by the pool Jee is talking about how he is 5'9" and used to weigh 180 and now weighs 160.
Says he has gained weight since being in the house.

Wapland

Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 04:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee in the pool.

Robert out of the pool with a towel on his waist.
Jee is swimming small laps underwater.

Robert is going inside to deal with his microphone.

Ali is cutting Dave's hair.
Dave saying that Ali nipped his ear and that she did it on purpose. She asks if he is bleeding. He says yes he has a bleeding heart.

Jee is now out of the pool wrapping a towel around himself.

Feed switches to Dana and Robert whispering. Very difficult to understand. It sounds like they are discussing plans for next weeks hoh. Dana says that they need to put up those two or else its on and everyone is out for themselves. Microphone problems.

Wapland

Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 04:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana in hoh with Jun on the bed. Dana puts on her music.

Switch to outside. Jack, Jee, Dave and Ali. Ali is still cutting Dave's hair. Jack and Jee talking about bench pressing and working on shoulders. Nate is also there. Jack says he has lost an inch off his height over the years. In highschool he was 5'11" and now he is 5'10". Ali asks Jack how Dave's haircut looks. Dave thinks it probably still looks the same. He gets up and looks in the mirror. He says OH my God and proceeds to say how he looks like Ed Grimley. He thens turns and thanks Ali.

Jack asks Ali if she has another one to do. She says no. Camera switches to Ali and Dave and the outdoor shower.

Ali brings water over to wash off the patio. Jack asks if she wants help. He says it looks like there is alot of black hair. It can't be his. Dave gets a bucket full of water and is rinsing off the patio too.

Jack tells Ali she did a really great job. He is going to go and shampoo. Dave is whistling sitting on the chess board, now lieing down.

Wapland

Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 04:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Robert, Jee, Ali, Dave and Nate outside with Jack. Jee tells Robert to bring over a chair and take a chill pill. He tells Dave his back is red from lieing on the pavement. He notes that Dave is a very sensitive person.

What is the proper definition of 'excentric'. Jee asks Jack to help him and Dave out. Couldn't hear his definition. He says it is easier to spot excentric behavior than to define it.

Robert to the storage room.

Robert in hoh with Dana and Jun. Talking but he takes his time getting mike on so can't hear him properly.

FOTH

Robert is describing a conversation with Ali. He mocks her saying that Dana is making this games personal. He grabs some nuts. Dana wonders why Ali is telling Robert this stuff.

Robert can't believe that she is going to be sequestered. Dana wonders why she didn't put both Nathan and Ali up. Robert says that this way they are getting rid of a 'MAJOR' strong player. Dana agrees. She says that is why he couldn't let Ali go. Nathan needs her. Dana says there is no taking chances again. Both Nathan and Ali have to go up the next time. Robert wants to know who they will vote off. He pauses and then says we have lots of time to think of which one to vote off. Robert leaves hoh

Wapland

Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 04:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Backyard with Robert, Jee and Ali talking.
Ali wants to know how far away CEO beach is from here. Dave says it is about 1/2 hour away. right beside Sunset Beach. Robert talks about a nude beach called Black Beach. Dave says he has no problem going topless.

Ali says she needs to get some new Oakleys.

Dave goes inside singing "thank you ..." He is getting some food from the kitchen. Walks through the living room to the HOH. He puts on a cowboy hat.

Switch to Robert Jee and Ali. They are talking about Ali's appearance. Jee says she has an ass that is just perfect to grab. Robert says that Ali looks better in a dress. Dave arrives back and slaps Ali's ass. Dave is now rubbing her butt cheeks. See look at the camera, they loved it!

Ali is now saying that there is no way that she is not single. Her boyfriend is very protective. The whole scene where Dave just rubbed her ass like that will get her in trouble.

Wapland

Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 04:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dave goes into the bathroom where Jack is blowing dry his hair. He puts on an orange towel and goes back outside.

Jee is asking Ali what her Mom drives. She drives an Oldsmobile. Jee's mom drives an SUV. Ali's mom is ordering a thunderbird like the 007. Ali and her brother got matching cars. He lost his liscense. She has his car now because he got a new Explorer. Her father is a lawyer and her mom is a phys.ed and health teacher.

Ali goes to classes with her. She teaches all elementary grades. She travels from school to school. Dave thought about being a teacher then he remembered himself as a kid and changed his mind. He was a pain in the ass kid.

Ali got A and A+ is everything. she only got 9/10 on spelling because her mom told her that you spell steam without an A

Robert's daughter got student of the month. She is named Coren. Dave has a friend named Dali. He doesn't really he is just saying that.

Wapland

Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 05:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Now talking about teeth problems. Dave had a tooth pulled to get out of a 20 mile run in the military.

Jee's father got a circumsition in the army with no anesthetic. Jee says his dad really put fear in him. He was one of those ol grumpy men. Dave had a buddy who got that procedure done. He had anesthetic.

Wapland

Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 05:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Guys recalling seeing Ali at the hotel pool. They , specially Robert said hello to her but she ignored them. Jee saw Dave at the gym. He did not seem too motivated, looked and walked out. Dave laughes at this story.

Jack is eating pretzels. The boys are recalling some Lisa as a horny chick. She loved reality tv but didn't make it.

There was another guy who looked like Dave, taller but he didn't make it. Dave wonders how he could have looked like him. Do all white guys look the same to Jee he asks. Jee says no they did look alike.

Tallest man who ever lived , lived to be how old Robert asks. He was 8'1". Robert saw it in Ripley's Believe it or Not. The smallest human to ever live was 4". They gave him a Barbie car to drive. Dave finds that so funny.

Wapland

Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 05:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ali and Nate in the kitchen. Nate asks is they are sulking together referring to someone else. He whispers to Ali...."I don't care at least we are sequestered".

They join the others outside. Everyone is talking about rollercoasters. Dave is doing visual demonstrations.

Ali is called to the diary room.

Wapland

Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 05:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
All four feeds on Jack, Robert, Jee and Dave outside talking. Nate is lifting weights. The others are talking about skydiving.

Dave says in his apartment he has his tools and his bed is 2 automans pushed together. Dave says that it is more comfortable than the floor. Jee says in Korea they slept on the floor. When he lived in the subburbs they used outhouses. But now in Korea things are different. Things are very established. Dave says yeah they are massing some nukes too. Jee says that is North Korea. Jee says that he is not an American Citizen. He also says he shouldn't be saying that.Jack asks if immigration would be looking for him. He is a permanent resident. He is a fulltime student. His sister has done it, but he hasn't. (ed. what does the rule book say about this?)

Dave is wondering what time of day it is. Nate says his forearm is still sore. Jack says have a pretzel...nature's perfect food. Jee admits that is true as long as you take the salt off. Jee says his blood pressure is high. Jack says that he should stop cigarettes. Jee says that is true.

Robert reports that jun, dana erica and justin are sleeping. Nate says he can't sleep during the day.

Wapland

Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 05:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack talks about rowing and how it helps builds certain muscles. He remembers a teacher once saying that he wasn't for any sport that had you sitting down and going backwards. They guys all laugh in agreement.

Complete quiet.

Nate says it was kinda cool to see a different face when he went in to see the dentist. Jee asked what happened with that. Nate says he had no cavities. He actually got to see 3 people.

Jee shuffling cards. Nate leaning on chairs. Jack and Robert sitting down. Nate moved a chair over to sun. Robert asks "isn't it too hot Nate" He says no. He must be working out in the sun. Out of camera view. Jee says Nate is in good shape.

Jee and Robert going in to see what time it is. Nate asks Jack what he thinks about everything. Jack says he thinks it looks bleak. Jack says this week it does but next week will be differnet. Jack says yes. Nathan says we will shift the momentum, next week things will change.

Jack says that if Nate is going to do some curls he will do them with him. He says it is not too hot. He just wants to get it done, have a shower and then talk. Nate just cannot sleep during the day.

Wapland

Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 05:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Laundrytime Robert says. It is a good time to do it Jack replies. Jee returns. Jee the card trick man. Jee says that he can't seem to stay away from the cards and that they seem to help pass the time.

Jack gets up and goes over to do some pushups. Jee watches Nate.

Nate asks Jack how much weight he wants....10? and Jack says ok. He will follow Nate. Nate is sore and says the pullups kill him so Jack will go first. Jack does arm curls. Nate does arm curls. Nate goes inside.

Wapland

Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 05:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Robert doing laudry with help from Jee. Jee reminds him to wash his tye dye seperately. Jee goes over and lies down in the hammock.

Jack comments on his swollen knee. He had to give up running a few years ago. He hates it because it about killed his morale. Now he bikes and rows. He misses it.

Jee humming FOTH

Wapland

Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 05:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack whispering to Nate that he is pissed at Robert and Jee for talking about LISA the way they did. Calling her horny and all that. He says they have no class.

Jee asks Jack if the turtles need to go back inside. Jack goes over to check. He thanks Jee for reminding him because he has been easily distracted today.

Jee asking Robert why he isn't using the washboard. He laughs and says that he doesn't need to be impressing Jee with how his clothes look. Robert tells him to use the damn ironing board. (ed. it is a washboard). Robert is going to try it.

Justin42

Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 05:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Very lazy Sunday afternoon. Ali drying clothes with the wringer, Jee playing solitaire in the hammock, Jun & Dana asleep in HoH (haven't heard a peep from them when I check F3), Jack using the weights, Justin just came out to watch Ali wash/dry.

Jee teases Robert "Good job with the half-a$$ laundry, wash dry, use the washboard next time you dirty fool."

Robert (?) asks whos clothes are in the dryer, Jee tells him Ali put some stuff in.

My cable modem keeps dying on me today, so I can't promise coverage... I'll try to keep an ear open for anything important. (they are literally going minutes at a time without anyone saying a word)

lazydays

Justin42

Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 05:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I missed the act itself, but I think Justin just cannonballed into the pool and soaked Jee in the hammock. Then Jee went to get his sandals back and Justin did it again.

Jee's up now, wandering around the backyard.

Jack doing situps on a lounge chair in the sun.

Looks like Dana got up in F3 and walked out of HoH.

(ed: we need something like in the Harry Potter books with a map where everyone is in the house at all times ;)