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Ryn

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 01:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Auntie - normally I don't post just comments - and please lets not have a conversation here - but I didn't hear anything like that - and I can't believe that would be decided in 5 minutes when the last 30 was spent with Robert and Jee fighting every notion of doing that. If someone else heard it though please post the information.

jee just got locked out of the HoH room, nathan said it happened to him once too.

(edited - maybe its sooooo

Cameltoes
Friday, July 18, 2003 - 01:54 pm
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David, Nate & Robert agreed that Dana has to go. Robert needs to talk to Jee but he was acting arrogant about it saying they will tell Jee that they are doing it no matter what. We shall see.
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(still done posting)

Demeter

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 01:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I haven't been posting live feeds, but....

Nathan, Dave and Rob in LR. They want Dana gone as soon as possible. Rob will talk with Justin and I think Jee. Rob says Erika will have to go with the plan (not to nominate him) and grins.

Demeter

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 01:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 1:

Nate and Michelle sitting on couch next to one another.

Rob there as well.

Michelle and David playing cards.

General chit chat about foods...sounds like now the PB&J group will get two of the casseroles.

Dana has joined them. Jee comes in and stands over everyone.

Talking about wanting a "duck" for each person.

FOTH

Kuchi

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 02:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
please note I posted at 1:35 pm about RObert, Nate and Dave's conversation. I missed the beginning of the convo but what I heard definately sounded like Dave and Nate had managed with just talking about Dana possibly winning the veto next week to convince RObert to talk to Jee about putting Dana up. Robert said twice that he was 100% with Dave about using the veto, habing jee put up dana and voting her out. Robert said he would talk to Jee asap. (I was surprised too as I had seen Robert in HOH say leave as is).

Demeter

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 02:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Back from brief FOTH.

PB&J group talking and dreaming about what they are going to do with the casserole...take the meat out, use a strainer or something.

Kitchen noises in background.

Erika, Ali and June working in Kitchen.

Nate: First HOH seems like forever ago...bright sun, fun...just want to know whatever is going on in the world, just some news, a phone call.

Talking about luxury competition and Dana excited maybe they could win food. Rob..Quiznos, Dana...Dominos.

Card game rules (spades) being discussed, Dana explaining.

Getting ready for a meeting...Diners finishing up in the kitchen.

FOTH

Demeter

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 02:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee, asking Nate about the 1:1 interview with Julie (during the live show). Nate explained he didn't see her, just talked with her.

Jack and Justin still doing dishes. June fixed some PB&J for Nate.

Getting ready for the "House Meeting"

Erika has joined them in the LR.

Robert actually tastes the PB&J...she put cinammon on it. Dana says..too much jelly.

Jack joins them in living room.

Ready to go.

Jee: First BB Chore meeting.

He volunteers to do BR for whole week.

Alison...storage room

Michelle and Erika: water plants.

Common areas...Alison.

Kitchen: June

Everyone own bedrooms and beds.

HOH and last HOH do BR.

Dave: Trash and Vacuuming

Pool and Hot tub: Jack and Rob?

Jee...need our own cups.

Justin and Nate: Windows and mirrors

Going fast so some of those might not be accurate.

Everyone needs to clean up hair and such in shower.

Now they are all talking about Michelle's skin and how she is ruining it by getting so dark..."She says, I know" Dave or someone says you keep saying I know, but you keep doing it.

Meeting breaking up.

David callled to DR.

Kuchi

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 02:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
girls need to clean the drain of hair after their individual showers and the boys need to clean the shower floor if they step in there to change...they have been doing that and leaving dirty foot prints in the bathroom.
They will do the towels this round and everyone will be handed two towels and then they will be responsible for their own towel....will get three towels each if they are enough to go around.


Nate & Jee & Jack are now cleaning the bathroom area. All cameras are on them cleaning.

Sbeachy

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 02:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
jun made nate a sandwich, she calls out to him, i made you a sandwich, he responds,

really? what kind?(LOL)
He's not really hungry, so share's a bite with the other pb&jer's, they all like it,

she put cinnamon on. dana says too much jelly.

all are sitting on couches for the house meeting

bathroom, watering plants, pool, windows, clean kitchen, bedrooms.

jee is on BR, Dave does vacuuming and trash, nate is on BR duty, jun kitchen,

everyone is to make there own beds, clean their own space. sounds like jack says

he'll do towels. they're gonna wash all the towels, get them all clean then divide

them equally, then each will be responsible for their own.

nate and jee talk about cleaning the BR now, more advice from the girls on rinsing

the shower floor and removing hair from the drain.

talk of how tan mich is getting.

nate and jee go to clean.

generally just discussing schedule for cleaning.
FOTH
back
BB says ?alli? please refrain from laying on microphone.

feeds switch to BR
jack brushing teeth, nate and jee cleaning, commenting that it's probably a good the

girls are here, to keep them from being too messy. jee says, yeah, but they make

more clutter with all that makeup, and hair stuff.

posting

Ryn

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 02:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack does not seem to know about the potential agreement...... he is talking to Erika in the Desert room.

Jack - we can tell Jee that we made an agreement not to vote any roomate off the 1st time they are on the block... we will show Jee he doesn't have enough votes to evict Erika and get him to allow Dave to use the Veto.

Erika - I don't want to make the same mistake and not use the veto last time - we should ahve last time... we are playing passive.

Erika - if they put you up they don't have the votes, they put Alison up, they don't have the votes.

Jack says "if i were them I would have put up you and me, or you and nathan, etc"

Erika - they left us with power

jack says its Robert...

Jack says he is leaving - says he needs to get with nate today.

Jack, Nate and Jee in the bathroom (jack is probably trying to get alone with Nate).

He sits and watches nate and Jee clean - says they are doing a great job.

Nancypj

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 02:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
(First time posting here for me, but I didn't see this up here and thought it is kinda important...)

Jack and Erika in Desert Room. Gist of conversation is that Jack will tell Jee that he does not have the votes needed to get Erika out, because they (all those staying in the Desert Room) agreed on the first night in the room that the first time any of them is up, none of the others would vote against him or her. He says that if he tells him it was a one-time deal -- only the first time -- it would sound believable and Jee might buy it.

He plans to talk to Nate and Dave ASAP to confirm the plan.

Ryn

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 02:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee & Jun in the bathroom - Jee speaks a little Korean (ed - NO FAIR!!!)

Jee is still cleaning - Jun preparing to shower - uses the WC first.

all 4 cams on the bathroom.

Jun comments on the shower being clean...

Jun alone in the bathroom - still all 4 feeds on her.

Dave comes in - says "hey you"

Jun "hey"

Dave leaves - Jee still sweeping in the bathroom it seems...

posting...

Nancypj

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 02:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As Jun was showering, Dana was hanging over the shower stall talking to her. I didn't hear all of the convo, but Dana informed the naked, wet Jun that she is going to win HOH next week and shake the sides up.

Dana finally left Jun alone to shower in peace.

All the while, Jee is mere feet away, sweeping the bathroon area floor.

Ryn

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 03:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee talking to Jun in the Storage room - telling her everyone is trying to persuade Dave to use the Veto - they keep switching between English and Korean.

Now both called to Diary Room.

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Ryn

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 03:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee and Jun come out - Jee says they got in trouble for singing some Korean song.

(ed - I think they were told not to talk in Korean and they are covering their butts because they were talking strategy in Korean)

Auntie

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 03:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
jee and jun in br, jun asks jee about school, he says he has one semester to go. she asks him how much is he making now.

jee says "can i say that?" then immediately says in korean "haji" something like that.

jee asks her about school, why she isn't finished, she says she can only take a few classes, he asks what is she taking, she says english and psychology.

i missed some, now she is speaking under her breath to him and i did not hear it!

going to quad cam now.

all feeds still on lr now, now in storage room

jee and jun are talking about dave using pov, he says yeah, take michelle off, put dana up, then some korean phrase, then...

jee and jun to the diary room. jun is clad in only a towel, she says wait, i'm naked!

now in lr again, dana says they are gonna tell us the food competition is null and void due to technical difficulties.

jee comes out of dr, he says that they got in trouble for korean rabbit song, (but they were NOT singing in the storage room)

and then he qualifies it by saying you can't speak another language in the house.

nathan is called to the diary room. dana appears to be following dave, then changes her mind.

dave and michelle are talking about playing cards, david tells her if he wins, she can't wear a bra anymore in the house. she says no. he says it would be so much better if you didn't wear it, so much sexier, you wear it 24/7.

feed switches to blue room with three single beds, it was robert dana was following, she is on his back, now gets off.

he says he loves this room, because you don't have to sleep with anyone. dana is looking at picture of his daughter, says how cute she is, laying it on thick, he expounds on just how cute his daughter is and how she has changed since the photo.

dana asks if the daughter speaks perfect spanish, he says no. she asks was your ex cuban? he says yes, then missed something, then he says his exwife was really, really beautiful.

they are on different beds. someone, i think it is justin, climbs into bed with dana, they are under covers, he has both arms tight around her from the back, over her breasts.

dana says when she first got here, she said something about his ear. he says do you want to feel it? she says no, he says come on, she says no, she squeals, says no, tells robert to squeeze it, he does. dana asks if it hurts, he says no, it's hard as a rock, robert surprised about that, justin says yeah, it's just hard.

robert leaves room. dana follows him, then comes back, asks if he wants to play spades with her and michelle, he says no, he tells her to sit down, he wants to talk.

she gets on other bed. he is saying something, but messing with his mike so i can't hear it.

switching cams now and posting.

Kuchi

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 03:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just came on to Robert talking to Jee as promised to Dave. AT the moment Jee is sticking to voting Erika out.....he is not going for the putting Dana up and using the veto. He said the three jee rob and justin are screwed either way with erika or dana....rob says that "B" meaning dana is definately putting us up....

Seamonkey

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 03:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Justin and Dana are (plotting?) or (??)

Justin says if you need three people to say yes or no it is one of the three.. not sure what his meaning is.

Dana says she is still holding trump cards in her hand.. I still have Jun..

They tell each other that they tell each other anything..


Flips to Robert and Jee.. Robert is agitating.. David has the power of veto, you have the power to put her up, you have the votes.. she is the most dangerous F-ing person in this house.

Whoa.. Robert is now lobbying to get Dana out NOW..

Saying if Dana stays.. think about it one of the three of us will be out..

Dana.. out DONE!..

Says he won't tell Jee to do it.. but..

Jee says if you guys do decide, I'm sticking to the play, but if David decides to use it, Dana is the only one to go up.

Robert says what does Jee think.. worried about Jee being the HOH to put Erika up..

Jee says if you guys wanted it to happen I could have put Dana up.. unfair to me, Jee..

Everyone has to understand that in my shoes, Erika can F it up..

Robert says both of us, but..

R is trying to protect the three.

Jee says everyone wants Dana gone, it will happen, later..

Jee is really wanting to stick to the plan the plan the plan.. BUT if David wants to do it.

Robert is BACKPEDALING..

Robert says what we are saying is go either way, this B...h is going to put us up.

Jee keeps talking numbers, like they have to make sense..

Robert says you're right, that's cool.. Jee asks if R talked to Justin.. not yet (ed Justin is currently snuggling with um..Dana)

Jee seems terrified of Erika.

Justin enters, locks door, what's up dude

Justin talked to Dana..

Dana claims she did say she'd put up Justin and Rob but it was a lie..

Justin says Dana will NOT nominate us..

Robert is making the case with Justin to get Dana out NOW.

Justin says we can get Erika out now, and next week.. Dana gonna flip the house upside down..

Nathan is scared to death of Jee/Robert/Justin

Only other solid alliance is Jack/Dave/erika and the girls are Fing halfwits.

Justin seems to have convinced Robert now..

Jee says if they want Dana out, I understand that, unfair to me..

Robert says ok ok.

(ed. Jee is obsessed with "fair to Jee")

Justin says we cannot join with Dave and Jack if Erika is still in the house.

Kuchi

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 03:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Justin has joined the convo in the hoh. Robert is outnumbered here and is already falling into line. Justin insists they get rid of Erika as Dana has told him, Justin, that she will go for hoh next week and turn the house upside down...she told justin the three are safe and that nate is scared of these three. Jee keeps saying the same thing over and over...leave as is and get rid of Erika.....they think the only alliances, solid ones, are them three and dave erica and jack.

Auntie

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 03:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ok, i missed some, and now on cam 2. robert telling jee about deal to have dave save michelle, jee put up dana.

robert says she is the most dangerous person in the house right now.

he says that they have to get her out of here, that this is the safest way to get her, because she can't get the veto and take herself off.

robert says if she isn't gone soon, eventually someone is going to fall for dana's crap, him or justin or jee.

jee says the only thing is, he is afraid erika will get hoh and put HIM up.

jee says if he had known what everyone wanted, he could have put up dana from the get go.

rp freaking out..

robert says that dana has already told him that she will put them - jee and robert - up.

jee makes a case to send erika out, says erika can cause a lot of damage. says that most likely that dana won't get hoh next week, and if she doesn't she will be gone.

jee says that he wants erika out. he says if erika stays in and wins hoh, it could be bad for everyone.

justin comes in.

he says he talked to dana. he told dana i am not going to tell you who, but i heard that you said you would put up justin and rob, and she says yes, i said that, but i am gonna lie cheat and steal to win this.

robert again makes his case that this might be the only chance to get dana out, whoever they put up if dave uses veto is gone, no chance to save themselves.

justin claims dana told him nathan was scared of them. the only people who have a solid alliance is jack, dave, and erika.

the rest are a bunch of half-wit girls, and they aren't dangerous.

jee says everyone is getting selfish, thinking about themselves, and it isn't fair to jee, erika is going to come back on them.

he says that if had put up dana and michelle first, that would be one thing, but now they have to stick to the plan.

tells his minions, robert and justin, go out to spread the word.

they are talking too fast. the bottom line is that jee wants them to stick to the original plan, and they should threaten david and nathan about the original plan.

justin said that dana already said she was going to turn the house upside down if she gets hoh.

rp failed, posting and reboot.

a

Ryn

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 03:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Summary of HoH room....

Jee, Rob

Rob had a good argument going to get Erika off - but now it has lost steam and Jee is saying to keep it the way it is.

Just in joins them and tells about testing Dana about her talking about nominating him and robert. he seems to feel she passed his test.

Justin keeps refering to Nathan being in an aliance with a bunk of f'ing girls.

missed a lot...

Jee says to scare them, that tell them they are losing trust going against the plan.

Justin now saying that whomever gets HoH - there is a very good chance that nathan is going up.

Robert - nate is not playing the game right at all, he's a floater.

1

door knock.

Dana at the door, brings in cards or something.

Dana asks if robert really thinks she would put him up, robert says you have to wonder when you hear it - but now he believes her (that she won't)

(posting and out)

Seamonkey

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 03:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Justin says no matter who Dana put up with David, they'd all keep David, they need David and Jack.

(ed. my head hurts)..

Jee is reliving his talk to Michelle about what he did for her by putting her up, etc.

Jee is upset with Mich.

Justin warns Robert not to talk to Dana about Justin talking to them..

Robert says David is shi!!ing in his pants.

Justin thinks everyone would put Nate up. Jee says Nate did it to himself, went everywhere.

Robert says Nate's not playing the game, a floater, we don't have to worry about him.

Justin says if we take Dana out now, Nate would have no reason to put Erika up next.

KNOCk.

Dana comes in says you thought I would put you up.. if i got rid o you guys who would I have to sit with.

She brought in some pictures.

Says you are not stupid, do the math.

Why didn't nate take Erika out? They say waste of a HOH. Weakest move..

???

Seamonkey

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 03:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana says F that if she's out it will make the teams even.. Dana really wants HOH next week.

Jee asks if Dana has finalized who she'd put up.

Dana says he's Fing with me (Nate?)

Dana wants HOH BAD. So bad she could taste it.

If Nate gets it again, we're all F'd says Dana.

Seamonkey

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 03:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana says it is crucial that Erika goes.

If one of us wins HOH, the HOH cannot vote.
Dana is sure she "has" Michelle, cuz Michelle doesn't want more girls going.

They think they have the votes to get Nate out.

Dana calls Nate the pretty boy that everyone is crazy about.

timeout..

friedmind..

gone

Auntie

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 03:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
dana is in hoh now. for some reason they are saying the hoh comp was a waste.

dana says that it is so obvious to her that nathan has a deal with everyone. she appears to be pushing for jee to put up nathan if dave uses the veto.

she says that nathan is the one pushing the attention on dana to get put up.

dana says that she wants hoh really bad. dana says she wants to put nathan up next week. jee says have you decided who you will put up?

dana says she hasn't finalized it.

discussion about whether they could get nathan out. dana says that if nathan got hoh, he would put up dana and jee.

dana tells jee is a big threat, that she knows nathan will put her up if he gets hoh, he's already said it.

dana repeats many times "••••, i want to win hoh so bad."

jee says it's very important that the right person goes this week.

dana says only jack and dave will vote to keep erika.

dana says that if michelle stays, she doesn't want any more girls leaving, dana says she will have to put up two guys.

jee and robert say not jack.

now justin says there is a chance we can get jack and dave.

dana said they would be crazy not to get rid of nathan now, he is the pretty boy everyone loves.

they both say that if nathan goes up, they will have to campaign for him to go.

they are counting votes to get nathan out. dana says that nathan knows she is after him, snd she knows that nathan is campaigning for dave to use the veto and get her out, she knows without a doubt, she is not stupid.

dana says after next week, it doesn't matter, because then anyone who goes gets to go live on the beach.

dana says what pisses her off is that she could be running around telling everyone not to trust nate, and she's not! (ed: uh, isn't that what she's doing now?)

this is confusing, dana's arguments are all over the board and the comments from the guys are not easy to follow.

dana appears satisfied, asks if they want to play cards.

jee tells dana, whatever happens, they have to be sure dave does not use that veto. dana agrees vehemently.

dana says she can't talk to dave, the others will have to.

dana says that she thinks everyone should follow whoever the hoh wants to put up, it's the smarter game. she is leaving, jee says he will be out in a minute.

okay, the trio heads out to campaign. jee says cleaning the bathroom gave him a cough.

jee is whispering to someone, can't see who, rp died.. there could still be some problems...

gotta reboot, posting and letting someone else take over. I will come back late tonight and get the wee hours.

Dipo

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 04:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am working, but will give quick update. No one is talking about anything. All four cams on the boys playing marbles. Looks like Jee, robert, jack is watching.