Archive through August 15, 2003
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August 15, 2003 - Day 42 - Justin/Robert Nominated:
Archive through August 15, 2003
Watcher | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:12 am     Cam 2 has moved to Erika in HOH room, with audio still on kitchen. Can hear Jun whispering something to Ali about the boys not talking to Jack. She thought they did it last night, but they didn't. Now Jack comes into kitchen. Ali drops an egg on the floor. Laughing. Jun says, okay you are off egg duty. Erika comes in and Jack asks her how she liked that bed in HOH room. She said it was nice. BB calls Jun into DR. |
Watcher | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:21 am     Ali finishes the veggie dicing. Says she really shouldn't touch anything...laughing. Asks how was sleeping in the power room. Erika says oh, my God, that room is awesome. Asks Jack if he missed her. He said yes, he did..it's too d**n quiet in there. Erika goes to bathroom area. Jun is back and Alison called to DR now. Jun saying Ali almost gave her heart attack the way she was chopping. Ali is back out now and dicing mushrooms too small. Jun says we want our customers to know we put mushrooms in the eggs. Jack in bathroom brushing teeth. Erika in there, too, brushing hers. Leans over and asks Jack something and he says he has been in the shower, hasn't talked to anybody. (must mean the Jee3) BB calls Jack to DR. Cam has switched to Blue Room. Jee and Rob still lying in bed. Rob going on again about his dislike of the girls. Says everyday it gets worse...just hearing their f***ing voices. Erika called to DR. Jee and Robert up now. Jee tells Erika good morning as she emerges from DR. Rob asking who is cooking. Asking Justin if he is cooking dinner tonight. (didn't hear answer) Rob says what happened, Justin, did you get scared of the wakeup call. Justin is lying on the sofa with pillow over his head. Says what about you, you are up, too. Rob says he and Jee just layed there after the wakeup call. |
Nephele | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:27 am     Jee on cam 2 sitting in a chair in the BR brushing his teeth. Looks like Jack on Feed 1. Jun is coooking on Feed 3, and Ali is on Feed 4 helping Jun make breakfast. Feeds changed: Jee on Cam 1 & 2 still brushing his teeth Ali on Cam 3 and 4 (cam 4 is a long shot) and there's someone sitting at the table |
Watcher | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:27 am     Erika is sitting on her bed in HOH room as if in thought. Jee sitting in orange bathroom chair brushing teeth. Rob at sink doing morning rituals. No talking at the moment. Jun is at the stove cooking...Ali is putting something in microwave. (bacon I think) She is trying to be Jun's assistant this morning. Rob comes through...asks Jun what is for breakfast this morning. She says, eggs, potatoes, bacon. Rob says I'm happy we get to eat. That is awesome. Jack says it's a good feeling. Rob says it is. Jack sipping on coffee. Ali watching Jun cook. |
Watcher | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:34 am     Jee at sink now, still brushing his teeth. Sounds of cooking from other room. Erika in Desert Room looking through clothes. Jee comes in and whispers something to her. (couldn't hear what Jee said to her...just sounded like he said something like he was worried there might be a misundertanding and he didn't want to go up and to please talk to him...but I could have totally gotten that all wrong...was too low to hear) |
Ryn | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:37 am     Jee told Erika he did not understand that he promised not to use the veto (durig the HoH comp) - so he asks her to help make sure he does not get it. Erika passes the word on to Jack and Ali. When Erika tells Ali - Ali says it was pretty clear to hear and doesn't understand how Jee mis-understood. Either way they seem to agree to make sure Jee does not get the POV (ed - btw we still have not had noms yet - lol) |
Watcher | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:39 am     (Thanks for catching that, Ryn!) Erika talking to someone, Ali, I think as I changed feeds....(sorry my feeds keep freezing) Erika saying, I don't know if he didn't hear me, didn't understand me or what. (talking about Jee, I think) Erika saying, I told him, you know you can't use the veto, right? He's like keep it away from me, okay? I don't want to have to put them down twice. |
Teddysmom | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:39 am     Erika went into the bathroom and told Jee that part of the deal in the cage was that he can't use the veto. Jee came in to Erika and told her he didn't realize that was part of the deal and that he really can't do that to the guys again so they need to keep the veto away from him. Erika just told Ali that they need to prevent Jee from winning the veto. |
Watcher | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:46 am     (thanks for catching that, Teddysmom!) Breakfast is ready. Jee thanks Jun for breakfast and also Ali. Some fixing their plates and sitting at table. Ali is still cooking something. Rob asks if they are ready...she says almost. Jee says turkey bacon came out real good...is nice and crispy. Ali says good. Ali wishing for more paper towels. Briefly saw Erika go into room where Jack was and saying something about having to clarify the whole veto thing with Jee...then cam moved immediately back to kitchen. (sorry, this is last post...have to run now) |
Kaili | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:22 am     Jee talking to Ali- telling her she's cool with both sides. Robert is there too- they're all outside. Ali saying she knows those three won't split up, but right now it's about numbers. They seem to be talking about Jun. Ali saying Jack is either very smart or very stupid. Jee thinks they're both smart. Ali says she hasn't commited to them since the original 8 and that was a long time ago. Jee says they respect Ali- she earned her stay in the house and she has her vote in the end. Rob says they have the end vote wrapped up and they (erika and Jack) won't win in the end. Jee says the only thing she appreciates from Jun is the cooking- that's her strategy but she hasn't earned her place in the house. Jee tells Ali that he and Justin didn't put her up and actions speak louder than words- she's played the game well and earned a lot in the house. Jee says he's just been lucky. Rob says Jack and Jun have to go up next week and they'll get rid of Jun. Ali says he can't put up one of his group because there's only 3 votes next week. HOH will probably be mental next week. Jee says this is the hardest week- Jun is in the middle. He says it may seem like he has an alliance with her, but Jun was a part of it and he had to talk to her- she always interrogates him. She was a member of the 5 and I had to communicate with her- I think a lot of people misjudged what taht was about. She's herself- she didn't have to leave the cage so early- she was only thinking for herself. Rob says she screwed herself. Jee is going off about the cage and Jun leaving it so early. Can't keep up with how fast he's going. Jee says he misunderstood about Erika and the veto- he thought the deal about the veto was directed at Ali. He says it probably won't go his way anyway- but he would want them to save themselves and he knows he would go up. Jee says Erika told him she would put him up if he used it- stupid- she didn't realize she can't. Rob says Jee can do what she wants. Ali says if Jee used the veto they'll probably put up Jun. Plotting- Jee will use the veto, but he won't tell them he's going to. Ali is going to pretend to be on their side (Erika and Jack's) but she will be on the Jee3 side. Ali says both are very adament about getting Justin out. Ali says she won't make it tie up. Rob says make sure it's not a tie, even if they get him out. Jee says he's ready to go up as a pawn if they want him to. Rob and Ali tell him to tell them he won't use the veto. Jee says he'll go for the veto- he's not giving up- but chances are he won't get it. |
Nanc | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:23 am     No one is posting so I guess it's time for my first. Paraphrased from last 20 minutes. Jee, Robert, and Allie are in the backyard. Jee came right out and said, "Allie do you want to be with us?" Allie said, "sure if you want me". Allie says she wants Jack out after this week. She did want Jun out, but says it is better to get out Jack ( or Erika). Robert and Allie are telling Jee to lie about the veto. They say go ahead and go for it and LIE to them..( of course everyother word from Jee and Robert is fu**) |
Cntrygrl | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:30 am     All cams on Ali/Jee/Rob. The boys are telling Ali how they totally trust her and how they don't go around kissing a** or anything like that. No one is going to break up the three of them. Jun is not a member of the three but of the five and she has f*#@& herself with them (the jee3). Ali says she understands. Jee is also saying how he is prepared to use the Veto (for rob's beny) ali says how they know how jee is after them and it he would to get the veto, they would put up ali or jun. jee says they trust her even though she is tight with everyone in the house. rob said that if he is up and they (jak./erica) want him out, then everyone vote him out, doesn't want a tie. rob just went inside. jee is saying how he didn't understand in hoh comp the deal included not using the veto. he is saying he can keep a secert with ali/jak/e. and understands jus in the number one target. jee never thought he could make it up to this point and how is has been honest from the beginning. jun just came outside. ali is saying that no matter what jee will not be leaving this week. jee still feels bad about leaving the cage. jun tells him not to, rob was the first to leave because he knew that jus in the target this week. jee thinks after jus leaves he will be the next target, jun telling him no, ron will be next. (posting, feeds switched) |
Kaili | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:32 am     Ali says she'll kiss their butt until the veto so they don't put her up if it gets used. Jee says he really did misunderstand them about the veto. ali says she understands why he thought it was her. Jee feels bad about it. Ali says (it's a secret)...FOTH... back and Jee says he understands the logic- Justin is awesome but the biggest player. Ali saying he's smart and physical- Jee is ahead of Robert- he's with Justin. Jee says he understands they'll come after him because they were talking about that in the cage- nobody will beat him in the end. Jee says he's been honest- it bothers him. Ali says she'll do what she can to make sure Jee gets the veto- they're expecting her to get it because Jack isn't that good at the physical stuff. Tell them you won't use it. Jee says he told them he misunderstood- it puts him in a bad situation. Ali says they did guarantee your safety. Even if the veto is used, you won't leave this week. I know you're loyal to the team and taht's important but I don't think you would have beat Erika in the cage anyway- she wasn't getting out. Jun there- Robert left because he knew Justin is the target- I left because I knew Justin was the target- why fight for these guys. In the game, think for yourself- don't play for all of them. Ali called to DR_now just Jee and Jun. Jun says she'll agree with whatever Erika says because she;s in power- you're safe. trust me, you aren't the next target. Jee saying to Jun he's fortunate to be there- he'll take it if he has to go. He thinks he's before Rob as a target. Jun doesn't think so- she thinks they'll want Jee around because he's more pleasant. Robs telling Alison everything I say Jee says she keeps suspecting they have an alliance'' Cuts to inside- Justin and Rob on all feeds. ustin saying he doesn't want Jee to have to make a decision about who to vote for. Justin doesn't want a tie. Erika walks in and says there was a misunderstanding with Jee. Erika telling them about clarifying to Jee about the deal- she knows he feels horrible. Rob says that's cool- he doesn't care. She leaves. |
Seamonkey | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:35 am     Erika and Jack play bad cop, good cop, with Jack telling Jee he knows Jee is a man of honor and didn't understand, etc. ERika is way more angry/telling Jee that it was very clear in the cage, Ali understood it the same way, etc.. Jee said he felt they were threatening him. They think Jee will "get" it and throw POV or not use it. Jee asks to talk to Ali alone. By the time Ali is out there, Robert has talked to Jee and pumped him up that the game includes lying, just tell them you won't use it and then use it.. they can't put you up if you have POV. Robert keeps talking like he will be HOH next week . Ali puts up Jun and Jack Jee and Robert are trying to pin down Ali on her side, says if they want her, fine. Lots more talk, but SHE CLAIMS SHE HAS NO TIE with Jack and Erika. Jee and Robert give Ali the line that they trust Ali way more than Jun and Ali has "earned" a win, they would vote for her. They even say they can sway Dana to vote for Ali. She earned it by being pulled off the block and other things. Robert wants Jun out. Jee says all Jun has done is cook, etc. Ali characterizes Jun as forcing herself on Jee-3. And says Jun knows that everyone is mad at Jun. Jee doesn't want to leave before Jun does. Ali says Jack needs to go soon. Robert and Jee are totally trashing Jun, which Ali is lapping up.. Jun left the cage.. Jee says he was in the cage to protect "his boys" and Jun just left (he wasn't protecting Jun, now was he?). Robert loves this (even though Robert left the cage too). Ali agreeing with Jee on his interpretation of the pact in the cage (but inside she agreed with Jack and Erika). Lots more talk with Robert, Jee and Ali.. Jee says Erika said Jee cannot use POV, he would go up. Ali says if you get it and use it, they will probably put up Jun or Ali.. probably Jun and then we can get rid of Jun. Jee says to Ali that they never never suspected her (ed. noses are growing everywhere in the BB house) Ali says Jack and Erika have told Justin he has to go.. ROBERT says just make it NOT a tie, if it is Justin or Robert. Ali agrees. Robert and Ali tell Jee just tell them you won't use it, but go for it and use it if you want. Jee says he's not giving up of course. (he's also denied ever being in alliance with Jun, didn't want her in his alliance, she just came with Dana, etc.) Robert leaves. Ali says she will kiss their butt until the veto, if they throw me up, fine.. Ali says she understands why they could think she was working both sides (ed. can't wait to hear the DR on this!!) Ali says only thing she can say, keeping a secret AND FOTH. Ali says Jee will be after Robert as a target. Jee says Justin is the f-ing most awesome dude, so he understands why he is a target. Ali says Justin is the biggest player, but Jee is right up after him ahead of Robert.. Ali says Jee is a target too. Jee goes into his "honest Jee" mantra. Jee says the plan WAS to save Justin. Ali says Jack and Erika expect her to win POV. Jun comes out now. (earlier Jun had tole Erika and Jack that they should remember that English is Jee's second language, but Erika later snarked to Jack that it was very clear, she wasn't buying it.) Jun points out to Jee that Robert left, migraine or not, he left, knowing Justin was the target, so Jee shouldn't feel so bad. Jun says if you have real friendships, you'll have them after the game, you have to play for yourself, they would too. Jee asks what is up with Jun.. she says she feels like sh!t, Erika is in power, she has to go with that. Jee acts understanding. Jee going on about being fortunate.. Jun had pointed out that Jee is safe this week.. Jun says she tries not to be obvious that she's trying to keep Jee here, she still thinks the target is Justin, THEN Robert, that they want pleasant people around at the last. All Cameras go inside.. Justin telling Robert what he said to Jack/Erika.. told them he said he knew they had Jun's vote.. Erika walks up seems to challenge what is Justin telling from their convo.. then she tells Robert and Justin that Jee's deal was clearly to NOT use the veto. Ali comes thru. Erika leaves, Ali walks by.. Justin seems to have told Jee to just go with the flow, not take them off. (feeds timed out at crucial moment) posting and need to see what others may have posted because this is definitely scattered, no flow, but tried to include what I heard. My sense is that Justin still sees the Jee-3 as sharing winnings so he wants Jee to be able to go forward in a strong and trusted position. Robert seems more out for revenge. This is just my read. Erika in all raspberry pink, puts on makeup. |
Kaili | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:40 am     Erika putting on makeup on all feeds- cuts to Jun, Justin, and Rob on the couch. Jun asks if they're okay and they say yeah. Rob says he's sick of this game and he gets smoked everytime he plays it- he can't win. Erika and Ali whispering- Ali saying "they hate her"- impossible to hear!!! Erika says something to her about talking to Justin- says she's their liason to the other side. Ali is a very, very good whisperer- all I caught was that they hate Jun. Telling Erika about the 6 votes at the end- she thinks they know they'll be picked off without Justin- if they get HOH before they all go, they can take out Jun. Ali telling her she doesn't think Jee will use veto- they only one who will use it would be Justin so they have to be sure he doesn't get it. |
Cntrygrl | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:41 am     ali and erica at mirror whispering. ali says something about hating her (jun??) e says she is go between for their side. alis says great i will be the first one shot at ali is saying that w/out justin they will get picked off one by one (hard to hear) |
Seamonkey | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:43 am     Ali and Erika whisper at mirror, can't tell if Ali is being at all accurate.. oh.. well she is hissing "they hate her, they hate her" (Jun) but not passing along her "alliance" with them. Ali says Jee is a bad liar. Ali says they need Jun.. we should... Erika says we need to talk about that. Erika says Ali is our liason to the other side. Ali giggles and says that's the one who gets shot at in the movies.. Erika hugs her, they giggle girlishly. Ali whispering about Jun too. Erika says Ali can "speak for me, baby, I don't mind, you're my secretary of state". Ali telling that Robert said they had the six votes for the end. Says without Justin they ain't sh!t.. and if one gets HOH before they all DIE, they can take out Jun. Ali says the only one we have to make sure doesn't get it is Justin. Ali and ERika are really brushing on the makeup. Ali hisses that Jun will slide thru the whole game if we don't get her out. Erika whispers lower, can't hear. Jack wanders near. Erika says "phlegmy phlegmy" going to be very phlegmy during the.. wanls off.. back.. Ali says "they" told her if she doesn't break a mic all week then they won't get wakeup calls for a week. (she told this to Justin, who said, so don't break it") |
Kaili | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:45 am     Erika says she's going to be phlegmy for nominations. Erika says to Jack she shouldn't wear her slippers to the nomination ceremony- she thanks her mom for sending them. FOTH |
Seamonkey | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:46 am     Heard great cough/throat clearing from Erika, and she's saying "the irony" to Jack probably.. cam isn't close on them. Ah Jee is talking to J/E.. missed it. (ed. glad there are several posters; this is very hard for anyone to follow) Erika says probably she shouldn't go to the ceremony in her slippers, then yells thank you mommy for the slippers. FOTH |
Kaili | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:57 am     I also missed the Jee and Jack/Erika convo- sound wasn't on them for most of it- I only caught Erika thanking Jee for "that". Girls are all getting ready- Jee is mouthwashing so my audio is a swishing noise. Jee asks if he can put glitter on her- she says no and he thinks it probably looked cool during the food competition. Ali needs a bobby pin. Houseguests on lockdown- have to go to the back yard and pull the shades. |
Seamonkey | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:57 am     Lots of pre-nomination jitters, primping, gargling, chatting, whispering, going on all over the house. Jee seems to be mildly kissing up to Ali today, told her the glitter looked great last night aske if he could put some on her.. no.. HG.. lockdown in backyard, pull shades.. So now Erika gets to do the key thing. |
Kaili | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 12:00 pm     All outside now- saying how hot it is outside. They all sit on chairs in the shade next to the house. Going on about the heat. Brief comment about if Erika could hear the people in HOH walls- she was asleep, heard nothing. One feed focused on HG pictures in the house- zoomed on Alison. Zooming in and out on Alison's picture, I should say. Now on Amanda'a picture. No talking outside. |
Kaili | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 12:01 pm     Blond woman walking around inside the house- past the pictures (still focused on Amanda). Now a bearded guy holding up a key while the blond woman walks over to him. FOTH |
Ryn | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 12:20 pm     Still FOTH |
Heyltslori | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 12:41 pm     Here's an update for my brother reading the boards while at work. STILL FOTH!! |
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