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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Big Brother IV - July 2003 Live Feed Archives: July 22, 2003 - Day 18 - Voting Day: Archive through July 22, 2003

Grannyg

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 04:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dave and Nate were in the BR talking about people on the internet typing out their convos. Group playing cards. Group in Kitchen. Jee in HOH snoring big time loud.

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Mrose4243

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 04:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Since no one is posting (I don't do this well):

Not much going on...everyone seems to be decompressing..Erica Jack and Justin playing cards in LR.. Jun in K of course, Jee in HOH alone lying on bed on his back.

Dave in BR telling Nate about how people transcribe their dialog...that there's a place where you can go on the net and read about everything that goes on in the house word for word! (ed. wonder if he meant TVCH!)

Nate says: WHO would do this? (with shock in his voice)

LOL!

Mrose4243

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 04:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
F1 - Jee in HOH snoring loudly

F2 - Another view of Jee

F3 - Jun cooking

f4 - Another view of Jun cooking

Mrose4243

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 04:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana, Erika, Justin and Nathan in LR playing cards. Jack joins them. No game talk, obviously, just cards. Dana still seems to be acting calm and "normal" - complaining about PMS & PBJ from time to time.

Jee on F1 and F2 still snoring.

Sbeachy

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 04:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
f4 Fun times! Justin, Dana, Erika, and Jack are trying to teach Nate how to shuffle the cards!(Boring)-YEA's, he just got it!
switched to quad cam, (even more fun time's)
Jee is still in dreamland, snoring like a freight train!(Boring)

Mrose4243

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 04:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Erika, Dana, Justin & Jack wanting to know how many of us net viewers are out here. Saying they should be told!

Erika was wondering how the 'true blue' BB fans felt about the X factor.

Justin said 'they probably HATE it'

Jack pointing out how the X factor changes the whole concept of the game, how its supposed to be a bunch of STRANGERS and this twist corrupts the integrity of the game. (GO Jack!!)

Mrose4243

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 04:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dave & Allison in hammock

Dave: I keep whistling "The Nutcracker"

Allison: How does that go

Dave: Can't tell you, I keep getting in trouble

Allison: Why do people in the service get married

Dave: Med. benefits, more money. sometimes people get married only on paper..a chick can have a kid for free, and that's expensive

Allie: Have you ever been in a really bad snowstorm, ever?

Dave: No, never.

Just general chit-chat

Robert sitting by himself in yellow chair near weights.

Andiegirl

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 05:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana and David, hanging in LR. Erika walks thru.

Dana: Erika go eat girl.

Er: not hungry

Dana: It's very hard to give yourself a pedicure.

David: Ya I know, I hear ya.

Switching feeds

Cam 1 and 2 still on empty HOH room

Cam 3: more people in LR, cam on David. David flipping cards, someone spelled out "Yo" in little glass beads.

"Attention Houseguests, this is a lockdown. Shades down, remain inside until further notice."

Lots of people telling Erika to eat in background. Lots move outside, pulling shades. Singing and general chatter. Back inside. Asking each other why lockdown? Dana tells them probably setting up for tomorrow's comp.

Andiegirl

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 05:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 4: Dana, Nate and David just starting card game in LR. Dana shuffling, dealing.

Dana explaining game rules.
Dana: If I have K, Q, A, the A is 15...
Nate: 7,8,9 has to be same suit.
Disagreeing over a few rules. Not sure what they're playing. Seems they've worked it out and are continuing play.

Cam 1 and 2 still on empty HOH room. 3 and 4 on card game. Conversation about card game only.

Andiegirl

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 05:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cardgame still going on. Rummy.

More sitting around watching the game. Jee, Justin, Jun and Michelle.

Jun eating a cookie. Dana told she shoulda had ice cream with it.

Outside noises.

Dana: They're setting up for tomorrow

Guy: They're running some sort of test.

"Jee, please go to the DR."

Jun: They're gonna give us clothes to change into for tomorrow?

Dana: They are, but not yet.

Jun: We'll be getting dirty?

Dana conteplates it probably won't be an intellectual type game.

cardgame continues...

Andiegirl

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 05:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 2 Robert, Ali, and Michelle in kitchen. Sound is bad. No strategy talk, just food talk. Switching...

As I switched, I cut in on David's head talking to cam: Get off the Internet and GO OUTSIDE! See the sun for once damnit!

Others laughing.

Cardgame still going on. Nate's out. Counting up points.

Dave: Will you shuffle them this time?
Dana: Ya I will
Nate: Whaddaya sayin? My shufflin isn't that great?

Erika next to them playing with the blue glass beads. Laughing and chatting with them.

Dana: How was that tofu concoction?

Erika and a guy both: Good!

Talking about mouth sores. Someone mentions getting Anbesol.

Feed switches to the end of what looked like a serious Michelle/Robert conversation in kitchen.

Michelle:...just not gonna be able to funtion.
Robert: You're tellin me.
Then they walked away and feed switches back to LR.
Michelle looks pouty. Juns rubbing her hair and Ali is laying on Michelle's shoulder. Almost everyone's in LR. Lots of talkin over

Andiegirl

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 05:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana: I'm gonna be f'in pissed if I don't get a f'in steak tomorrow.

Talkin about Ali's boyfriend.

David: He's a freak...loser...why don't you cut him off?

Ali:...lives 5 hrs away.

Girl: Is he your boyfriend?

Ali: probably not anymore.

Guy: so what? once you get outta here you'll have lots of guys after you.

Andiegirl

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 05:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana temporarily leaving card game, Jack taking her place.
Sitting around couch, in order, Ali on floor at edge, then Michelle, Jun, Nate, Jack. David's in chair pulled up to table, Erika's on floor next to him.

Jun: (talkin about DR) I will not answer sex questions.
Guy: What'd they ask you about?
Jun: Winning HOH, Jee, and Robert.

Lots of talking over...

Ali: I miss my parents.
Mostly talk about the card game.
Girls teasing Jack about something...
Jack: I actually work for the staff, keepin tabs on you guys.
Can't hear the girls over the guys loud voices. Michelle walking away, jun and ali, too. They go to HOH and wanted to lay on bed but Jee turned them away. They head to the bedroom with the doubles, turn off lights giggling/chatting and get into double bed.

Ali talking about first day brother met her "indian" boyfriend.

Ali: (laughing about her brother) He does this interpretation of retards. Have you ever seen a retard bus go by?
(she then demonstrates what he does and the other girls laugh hysterically)
Jun asks how close they are. Ali basically says so-so.
Michelle has a 16 year old brother she's telling a drinking story about. Something about her friends at her house and his friends came over. Apparently the boys were drunk and puking. So Michelle had to call their older bro's to come pick them up. Then her parents came home and she was, "like, freakin out". But her dad was so drunk and he picked up a bottle and thought he had drank it. She said she's allowed to drink in front of her parents.

Ali starts a story about her brother. He was drinking on Xmas Eve, had peed on his floor. Passed out opening presents next morning. Her bro is 6'1". Jun thinks he looked smaller.
Feed switches to card game.

I'm outtie, gotta go watch show now.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 06:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The Jee-three minus Jee are smugly sitting in the bathroom chairs and planning out what happens next.. Justin wants F-ing Ali out and would also like Nate to go. Robert smirks that after that it just depends on what happens.

Robert says "man they are scared of US".. Justin agrees.. they giggle with glee. Justin thinks it is so funny.. says Jun aske what is next and he said probably they'll come after us..

Robert says it is gonna be exciting this week.. Justin says tomorrow!1 Robert says very important who gets it.

From where they sit they can watch some of the others playing cards.

Robert says, to Justin, you can keep Dana under control for another week, can't you?

Justin assures him that he can.

(ed. this is ALMOST as good as the demise of Qusay and Uday)

Robert says how about those two, had to get them broken up soon, is it now? Justin says NAH (think he means Jack and Dave, but hard to say.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 06:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Robert asking Justin what other HOH games they had last year.. Justin mentions ones with people's faces on cards..

Robert asks about the one Amy won, walking with something on your head.. Justin says that was veto.

Justin now talking about the one with the laser beams.. Robert suddenly remembers that.. they thought that was cool.

Robert asks if anyone didn't win HOH? Justin says yeah.. people who were evicted n sh!t. Both think Roddy never won.. Lisa won week one and last week but Eric never did.

marcellas twice, Jason twice (??)

Seamonkey

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 06:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee tells them he is playing solitaire, they're playing rummy and the girls are on that side..

Robert asks if they finished their beers, there's a bottole of wine..


Checking to see who is playing cards: Jee just sat down.. Nate, Dana, Jack and Dave, so the girls in the room must be Erika, Jun, Michelle and Ali..

Jee admires Dave's hairdo (lol)

Konamouse

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 06:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Erika & Michelle are in bed in the red room, talking (cam 3 & 4).
Michelle wishes there was more to do in the house.
Erika thinks it was a damn shame that Michelle was put up against her as a pawn.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 06:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Justin says he wouldn't mind her out of here. Robert says Ali?

Ali walks right by them :)

Justin just said he's f-ing bored out of his mind.


Justin says he should go elsewhere (not with Robert.. Robert allows him to leave.

Cam just zoomed in on a pile of stuff.

Robert just GRABBED Ali, says Justin won't have a chance??? garbled.. now Ali is calling Jun.

Have no idea what just happened.

Jee says no more napes for Jee.. or he can't sleep tonight.

Ali is being loud in the hall and smacks Jun on the butt!

Bedroom: Michelle in double bed, saying like, kinda like..etc..Ali is there now..Michelle is talking about brothers, spikey hair, bleached tips, both like the same goodlooking (maybe not brothers)

Robert asks what Michelle is doing, just hanging out.

Erika is on the same bed, talking to Michelle about how aggravating it was that they put Michelle up.. have some balls! put up two you really want to go.

michelle thanks her ..

Switching to cam 4.. just to check.

Closeup of Michelle, saying it is just hard. I think she means the exes.. says Jee and Jun make her laugh.

Asks if Erika is like really upset about them nominating you.. Erika says not anymore, whatever happens, happens for a reason.. Erika says she told DR, either way, if I stay, I win, if I leave, I win.

Mich wishes they gave them more to do.

M says this is like being sequestered except they have each other.

gotta go for now..

More of them in the living room.. Dana, Jun, Jee, Dave, Ali, Nate, Dana, Jack, Justin

Don;'t see Robert, hear crows cawing outside.. they wonder when lockdown is over.

Jun went to bedroom to change to pants.

Mich likes Jun's shorts, Jun says they got ruined in the wash.

Mich and Erika still in the bed. Erika says she's going to pack soon, said they were told to pack before they go to sleep.

They hope it is like 9pm, but only 6:45pm..

Mich can't explain to Erika how horrible this diet is.. all she can F-ing eat is bread.. says in here she sounds like a truckdriver, not her usual speech. Erika says in a group like this we all tend to take on each other's personalities, groupthink.

Mich says when she flipped out on David and hit his head with a pillow, she'd never do that.. being here I'm like changing for the worst, you know.

Erika says take a step back and ask self how would I act in another situation. etc.

Gotta grab some dinner, out..

Konamouse

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 06:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Erika has Scott's blanket (instead of using the burlap that was found in the TR when they moved in).
Talking about Scott, Erika tells Michelle that "Scotty adored you...he really liked you."
Michelle thanks her for telling her about that.

E: You don't know how many times I had to rein him in, calm down, BRING IT DOWN! (talking about Scott).
M: Hmmm
M: I feel really bad for him
K: He'll be okay, really. He's a smart kid, he'll get it together. I think this situation with Amanda here was way too much for him, threw him for a loop. FOr me the first week, I didn't want to be here.
She mentions how she was "ignoring him" (ed. I think she meant Robert).
June is in the room, changing.
Erika wants to go hot tub (but they cannot go outside).
Michelle wants to workout but Jun says "don't" (because she hasn't been eating).
Something about the wash ruining a pair of Jun's short (Old Navy).
M: They look so comfortable
J: They really are. Then Jun leaves the room and a heavy sigh is heard.

E: I'm going to start to pack.
M: I wonder what time it is.
She hopes it is 9p
E: (YELLS) Does anyone know what time it is?

It's quarter to seven, but Erika says it feels like midnight.
Michelle complains about the diet "You don't know how horrible this diet it...I swear I sound like a truck driver with all my cursing" (She is blaming it on all the bread, bread, bread).
E: It's hard, in a group like this, we take on eachother's personalities. If someone swears, we all swear. THat's the problem with such a small group, we take on a group mentality.

Michelle claims she would normally just "walk away" and "be the bigger person" instead of "blowing up". This house is changing her. Erika gives her "motherly" advice, suggesting that she take a step back and look at the situation more objectively. Reminds her that the mind plays tricks in this situation.
E: I'm sure you'll learn something from this experience...being only 19.
M: I'm the youngest person they've ever had on the show....but they picked me because of David. I try my hardest to focus on the good things in here...everything here is just so moving me. I just moved out of my house last year, lived with my parents for 18 years. I'm really helpless, my parents did everything for me...In here I'm becoming more independent. I'm sure it's all for the best. I dunno. It's difficult. It's a good opportunity. (sniffs)

M: Usually I complain about not having enough time to relax.
E: me too

Nate comes in and they tell him they are complaining about having too much time to relax now. The girls ask about the card came and Nate complains "terrible...horrible". Michelle says that his hair is getting too long, Erika agrees.
Nate says that it's in it's "nasty stage".

M: He's the only guy in this house..........(ed. doesn't seem to complete this thought).

Michelle asks Erika if she knows what she is wearing tomorrow, since they have to pack tonight.
M: I so hate packing, with a passion
E: I know, I don't like it either, I hate packing and I hate unpacking (ed. forshadowing???)
M: So, you also bartend? Do you like it?
E: It's a living. Bartends on the weekends, teaches classes during the week.

Working late on Friday nights with a Saturday morning class is the hardest. She works 5 days a week with both jobs. She makes 800-1000 a week. Michelle thinks that is good. The bartending hours are "small", 8p-12mid or 10p-2am. It's a place on Sunset - a lounge. Michelle asks if there are cute guys. Erika says there are good looking people and invites her to visit "when she is of age". Michelle will be 20 in Oct. She says she'll get Ali's ID (her own fake ID isn't that good).
M: She's blond, that's the only thing we have in common. I lost mine at Mardi Gras.

E: It's so cold in this room, my nose is frozen.
She wonders how they can sleep in this room.
Michelle says that she has gotten used to it, but in the mornings it is the worst. She blames Nate for cooling it down - that he wants it colder.
Erika thinks that maybe guys' thermostats are set differently.

E: So, did you ever watch the show, did you know about BB?
M: When they called, my parents didn't take it seriously, they thought it was a scam.
Her parents came out to the auditions with her. Kept asking how they (BB) knew about Michelle. BB claim "it was in the computer", that anyone could have submitted her as a good possible contestant. And Michelle "was so naive" that she believed it. She thought it was cool seeing David in the LR when they came into the house. It was someone she knew, so she was happy.

Erika thinks this is cute, since she was so pissed off herself when the ex's came in the house. She remembers Michelle having a smile on her face.

M: He knows how to make me mad
E: he knows how to press your buttons.
M: We fought all the time, it was a wrong match from the start. I get so mad when he tries to make me mad, because he does it just to get a reaction. I get so frustrated and just blow up on him. It's weird, I can be so mad at him one minute and the next minute be his friend, you know. Like I said in the DR, it's like he's my brother....

Konamouse

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 07:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Michelle is so tired of bread.
They both desprately want to go to bed early tonight. Erika didn't nap (neither did Jack) so maybe she can go to bed early.
Michelle says she has more fun at night. Then tells Erika about last night. Michelle was in the bed w/ Nate and Jun got mad. Nate's shirt was thrown and hit Jun. Then he threw his pants at her. Jun thought that Nate was naked and Jun tried to pull off his covers. She kept checking on us to make sure there was nothing going on between Nate & Michelle.
M: Every day we say we are going to bed early, but w/ Jun here, we can't. She makes me laugh.
E: we can't hear you at all...must be sound proof walls.
The camera moves and Erika says "I just flipped over, not that important to catch".
Time to get up and go pack, they leave the Red Room.

(time for me to get dinner)

Philamom

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 07:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ali and Nate playing table ping pong game.

Switch to Michelle talking to someone in the bedroom. (Erika, I think)
Michelle: She cracks me up. Every night we say we're going to bed early, but with Jun we can't.
Erika: We don't hear you at all. Must be sound-proof walls.

Erika looks like she's going to take a nap, getting in bed and covering up.

Nate and Ali still playing ping pong. It looks like Jack and Justin are playing marbles. Jun is doing Dana's nails, while Dana is talking about food. Jee is sitting shuffling cards.

Jee: Can you shuffle one handed?
Michelle: no
Jee demostrates one-handed shuffle.
Talk about when the next competition is. More talk about food.

Jack won the marbles game. Some discussion among the guys about who should play Jack in marbles next.

Jun: why don't you just measure your d**ks to see who plays who?

Female (Michelle?): Don't guys do that?

Jee: Measure each others' d**ks? No ... do you measure each others t*ts? (or maybe it was cl**ts ... I couldn't tell, and they do rhyme :)

Aremid

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 07:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun - I think he has a cute face but his personality sucks
Jun - I think she has a good body ( thought I heard Erica's name, not sure)
Ali - HOH sticking with the 8
Something is whispered about Nathan and that that would be interesting
Ali - not getting involved in that...
Jun is sitting on the edge of the tub and Ali is to her right
Jun working on a pedicure ( We get a closeup of her toes)
More whispering
Ali - that's bullsh--, that's childish
Jun - if he did that to her!
Ali - oh my God!
Ali - I would never, ever
( have no idea what they are discussing, cause of the whispering part)
Ali - I would be afraid
Jun - gonna hate everybody
Ali...diaryroom
Jun....she tells us she doesn't
Ali sings Twinkle Twinkle Little Star
In the background a male says - David what are you doing in here- David replies, but couldn't hear, then the male says UH uh
Ali - I don't have sex, I make love
Ali - Nathan, Nathan, come sit, come hang out with me
Nathan - what do you want
Ali - come here, I want to rub my fingers through your ?
Ali - those are vericose veins
Nathan - you need to get surgery for that, that's nasty
Nathan - you are such a receiver...right there, there's a q- tip
Ali - says something about the way he speaks, then she is glad she met him...God Nathan, you're so ------- tall...give me a backrub
Nathan - what is going ONNN
Ali - come on Cletus
Nathan - what are you doing
Jun - pedicure
Nathan - what are you doing ali
(Didn't catch what she said)
Ali - are they lubricated - they are my favorite kind
Nathan holds a condom over Jun's head
Ali - those are little
Now the condom is filled with water
David is in the bathroom now
Jun - I had a condom on my head
Ali - why does it ripple
Jun - these aren't ribbed
Ali - I'm now in contact with a condom
Nathan - I hate condoms
Male - Do you know what a keeping it down inside voice is?
Ali - that is so cute
Erica is in there now too
Nathan is looking for lipstick - Jun do you have any lipstick
Jun - you're not using my lipstick, use Mi ( could have been David that asked - not sure)

They are blowing the condoms up like balloons
Dana yells something about does somebody have something
Justin is in there now too
Nathan asked if any of these things had ever broken with anybody
Nathan ( I think) says he doesn't use them
BB - Please raise the outside shades
Erica - we aren't doing water balloons are we
Female - what are you doing
David - putting it over my head
David - what is this guy doing?
Male - is there anything out there?
Camera still on Jun in the bathroom
Dana - what's wrong? What's wrong? I need food, that's what's wrong
Male - shaving your feet, that's gross
Male yells - Jun is shaving her feet
Robert comes through the bathroom
Dana comes in and asks - is it just me, Jun says no, then....Dana says...just mind my business, stay away from everybody

Timed out

Aremid

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 08:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The girls (Erica, Mi, and Ali) are in the hottub but it is hard to understand everything they are saying because of the noise, the guys are playing bball and the noise of the tub, covers much of what they say
Nathan has joined them in the tub now

Aremid

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 08:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nothing much going on right now. June is polishing her toe nails, Robert is sitting beside her - they are outside, BBall going on in the background (bounce, bounce, bounce) Some of the girls, and Nathan are still in the hottub.

Aremid

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 08:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Robert and Jun start talking...
Jun ...that is ? highschool
Robert - hey I totally agree - FOTH
robert - if you think about it...I don't know what the ? is
Robert - I think the x factor thing ( very loud plane) not going to happen or or, vote each other off, right
Jun - right, that's true
Jun - picking on each other once in a while
Robert - keeping some people ? (separated)
Robert - I know I'm tight with jee...but what you feel ? ... I understand that totally
Robert says something about Mi...you know what I mean, get a ? going...get Mi
Jun - does nothing for me...she is not attractive, and her personality is even less attractive
Robert - Who?
Jun - Ali...Pennsylvania, she is just not (grateful or graceful)
Robert - dizzy, blonde
Robert - Mi is incredible
Jun - she doesn't know the game, why put her in the game
Robert - strategy
Jun - her strategy - just go alone with everybody
...boys ? ? touch her right now
(basketball interfering with hearing this conversation)
Jun - ? years older woman - older man , now olderman and 33 years old, there were two moms, the males complained they wanted a single older woman...I didn't know ? was a mom...threw in a bunch of single women with ?
Robert - you are cute, you are smart...more people like you - it'd be more fun
Jun - Jack is old but I think he is cool
Robert - uh
Jun - Jack's old but I think he is cool
Robert - right
Robert - ? think it is all calculated, oh come on, how could it have slipped through so many people
Jun - right
Robert - is it what you expected it to be
Jun - I had an idea, the reason I applied, I knew there was going to be a lot, I consider myself a people person...I'll have this down...I'm a people person, but I can't relate to high school ?
Robert - I thought it was me, I thought I'm in trouble here, cause i don't want to go back there and talk...
Jun - I thought there were going to be a lot of people in their 20s and 30s, with personalities...who for a few weeks, it wouldn't be cut throat...but...good looking, but float from room to room
Robert - I didn't take into consideration...game, not that it would have made a difference...I told myself...I'm not gonna do that sh-- ( referred to last season)
Jun - I didn't know I would have to deal with 10 year olds and making them wash the dishes, or to pick up their room - Mi is ridiculous, clothes all over the place
Robert - right, right
Robert - that is why I think I seriously believe...f------ luck, some kind of sh-- happened...I don't know how to say that...being the smartest...doesn't necessarily mean you are going to win...Nathan win...not saying that is going to happen
Jun - ...makes them so naive....each other
(Lots of background noise)
Dana came over and sat down and starts talking about Jun's polish and that she likes it