Archive through August 20, 2003
TV ClubHouse: Archive: Big Brother IV - August 2003 Live Feed Archives:
August 20, 2003 - Day 47 - Justin Evicted - Jee HoH:
Archive through August 20, 2003
Ryn | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 09:56 am     Side-by-side - looks like a putt-putt gold course - and one big hump right before the hole - Jun keeps saying "2 bumps" but I can only see one - but there are two alleys. A female BB voice talks to them but can't hear it over a plane. Something about an hour - they all head inside. |
Watcher | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 09:56 am     Erika saying she doesn't understand...it's a completely different concept. What was the use of practicing if they were going to change it. Jack says it gave us something to do anyhow. Loud plane flies over. BB Voice says something to them...but I couldn't hear. They are asking an hour? Jack says we can eat breakfast. (maybe BB letting them back inside for an hour) HG's all get up and go inside the house. |
Watcher | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:00 am     Cam 4 shows Rob sitting in chair outside still, so guess he decided not to go inside yet. June cleaning grill from last night at sink. Jee getting coffee. Jun tells Ali she is going to chop something up and put into eggs. Talking again about how BB changed the game up on them from how it was when they were practicing last night. FOTH |
Ryn | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:03 am     Robert and Jee talking outside - Rob says he has been thinking all night - and thinks if they win HoH they should take Erica out. He feels that she is stronger than Jack - and is worried there will be another endurance challenge down the road. Jee and Robert seem to be in agreement that if they get HoH to put up Jack/Erica and put out Erika. Justin says that thats nt a bad idea. |
Ryn | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:06 am     The order to eliminate as they now see it: Erika, Ali, Jack...... Robert - If we win we take Ali out, if Ali wins she takes them out (this is looking ahead an entire week and assuming they have gotten Erika out). |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:06 am     Lots of speculation.. that is it more like skeeball now.. get it IN the hole, not a contest where bumping another's ball is in play. There are two courts or alleys (Justin calls them courts, Jun says allys. Ali figures that they compete in pairs with runoffs.. Five will be competing. All saying this is totally different game, why did they practice? They wondered if they were locked out, then BB voice told Erika and Ali they needed new batteries but when Erika and Ali grumped over to the door, it was locked. Just now a female voice let them know they could go back inside for an hour, so they figure tht gives them time to make and eat breakfast. Ali presses Jun to let her help, they decide Ali will make bacon .. Jun is scraping off the barbeque grill.. Jee says they had scrubbed and scrubbed last night but it was still gunky. Robert remains outside with his hand in and around his nose. All others inside Earlier, when Jack and Jun were the only ones up, Jun asked him how he was going to "tell Ali" and he said he'd say he heard it from... (unintelligible) and then talked to Jun (ed. after that I caught up on overnight postings and believe essentially the same convo took place last night and is about Jee3 saying they wanted Ali out and Ali should ask Jun to confirm) Lots of talk from all of them that why did they have that practice yesterday when the game today is totally different (ed. and since none of them were attempting to practice today, no balls were available for practice) Robert and Jee outside. Robert is saying week to week if we take her off right away.. strong feeling that she should be the first one out. Says Jack isn't a threat, really. Jee says with Ali, she's with us this week, Jee told Ali he didn't decide if Jack went before Erika, but.. (ed. so Robert may be saying Erika goes before Jack) Justin, off screen saying they can control that. Robert says but if we win HOH how can we control the votes? Robert says Ali WILL stick with us til the end and we'll still have Jack.. he is sure Ali will stick with us next week if we win. Justin asks what about the week after that? Jee and Robert say Erika, then Jack, then Ali. If Ali wins we take them out. If they win we take Ali out. Ali walks by (hard to say she didn't hear something!) Now talk switches abruptly to the game.. two bumps, etc.. |
Watcher | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:08 am     Back from FOTH after a minute or two. Ali saying something about nasty slimy fatty bacon. (switching to outside feed) Jee and Rob talking but not sure who they are talking about. Rob saying if she stays with us til the end, it might be a problem...it might bite us in the a**. It's up to Jee, but he is thinking we should go ahead and get her out now. Jee says he told Ali Jack or Erika would go next..it doesn't matter to him. Rob saying what sucks is if we get it, how can we control how they vote? He isn't sure about keeping her around and why he thinks they should get rid of her first. If they get rid of her first, Ali will stick with them. We just take her out and then we worry about Jack later. Justin says how about the week after that? Who do you go after the week after. Jee warns them to be quiet...they might hear. Rob saying Erika first, then Ali, then Jack Ali wanders out and sits down with them and they stop strategizing and start talking about the HOH game again. Rob having allergy problems this morning..sneezing, honking and blowing a lot. |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:12 am     quad. Jack, Jun and Erika inside. Ali is there now too.. Erika hands Ali an onion, says go practice, Al.. Jun says she has faith in Ali. Ali says totally different game.. Jack says he likes skeeball.. goes from Bocche ball to skeeball.. (Jack and Erika have been using strange voices today, as has Jun some of the time.. Jack seems to be channeling the godfather and Erika's is stranger sort of like from the clambake from hell Jun's used her NY valley girl high voice when they were outside) Ali mostly just using her whiney Ali voice.. about how greasy the bacon is and that they changed the competition and she is tired of them using balls and seafood and that Jee and Robert are f-ing having heart attacks and that Erika is the snobbiest HG ever, because she won't eat regular bacon.. |
Watcher | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:12 am     Ali has gone back inside and Jee, Justin and Rob have moved to chairs further away from the kitchen door...more strategizing about who they should take out first. Rob saying how good Erika can be and she won the hardest HOH competition in the house. Rob seems to want Erika to go first. Erika came out for a minute and talking stopped. Rob hoping Ali wins HOH competition tonight and they will be set. Jee asking him if Ali gave him her word to stay with them. He is saying she might turn on them. Tells Rob to put himself in Ali's place. He has a feeling it might backfire and she might put one of them up. (lost RP) |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:21 am     Ali loudly whining about her hurting muscles and morning and being woken up and where are the bagels and what about the cheese, and wanting to vomit seeing jelly.. Ali is helping by leaning on the counter and whining, watching Jun. Jun points out that Ali is grouchy. Now Ali is whining about her dreams. Ali asks if we are going to go for it or throw it? Jun says we are going for it, who says we should throw it.. Ali says Robert and Jee said Jun was throwing it. Jun says don't trust those guys, they want to use us. Jun says Jack and Erika told Jun that Jee and Robert want to target Ali.. Jun says she asked J/E why they didn't mention this sooner and they said that is why Erika was walking around saying there are NO backdoor strategies. That J/E say that R/Jee want to put up J/E then have someone veto one off and put up Ali. Ali says she's been told something similar about Jun. Jun and Ali continue trashing Jee and Robert. Jun mentioned Robert following Ali around, buttering her up.. Ali claims she didn't "notice". Jun says Robert thinks Ali is a little girl he can manipulate. Ali says not gonna happen. Jun asks if they used all the american cheese last night. One of the guys says they "happened to notice the cheese was on the dryer. Jun and Erika, Jack, Ali all mock that.. like if you noticed it why didn't you put it away, they decide the cheese is unusable. All gathering to get their breakfast now. |
Watcher | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:24 am     Jee says he thinks Alison is aware she is playing for second place...he doesn't think she has her eyes on winning first place. Jack comes outside now and they change subject. Talking about Jun's little baby whining voice. Justin says that is his biggest pet peeve with women....that little baby voice...he just wants to choke them. Says Ali does it, too. Jee agrees and also doesn't like girls who are too into themselves. Jee says just another day in the BB4 house. Jack says and it's August 20th. Erika walks back out and Rob gets up and moves over to one of the chairs on other side of patio. Talking about the odd number players...trying to figure out how BB will work the game....might just get one roll each. Depends on how much time they want to put on it. Jack says meanwhile Erika will be watching all this in her little HOH chair, which has the dimensions of an electric chair. Speculating that they will probably be locked outside after an hour. BB usually does lock them out on Wednesdays. Say they have BB figured out...that they have a routine also. Jun comes out and tells them breakfast is ready. Jee, Justin and Rob straggling behind as everyone goes inside. Rob says something to Jee...asking I think about how they should play the competition tonight. (missed exactly what he said) Jee says they should both go after it. Rob goes on in and Jee saying to Justin it isn't enough that Rob just talked to Ali and he didn't get her word. HG's all having breakfast now. (and I have to go now...back later) |
Kaili | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:27 am     All HGs in the kitchen preparing food & getting ready to eat (or in some cases eating already). Erika, Jack and Jee are the only ones sitting down at the table- Ali is eating at the counter. Rob and Justin are now outside on the lounge chairs, saying it's nice out. That was it though- no other conversation. The only noise outside is an airplane and the occassional Robert sniffle. |
Kaili | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:32 am     As soon as I posted, feeds went to FOTH. Back on and more of the same- Justin & Rob outside not talking. Switching to the kitchen... On feed 3, Ali is sitting at the table and Jack/Jee talking about something being hard to cut. Jack sits back at the table. Erika is in the bathroom area washing up. Ali is doing dishes- her dish anyway. Little conversation in this part of the house either, and what conversation there is doesn't amount to much besides "It's done" and "are you going to put butter on that". Switching back to quad... |
Kaili | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:46 am     As I come back to them, I catch the end of something Rob said about "being stuck in the house with three f'ing girls" then Justin saying he wouldn't change anything he's done or how he's done anything. Rob saying if he gave advice to anyone else coming to play BB, he would say to form a strong alliance and do what Jun did- be a floater taht's honest- be used as a vote. Do it like Jun, or like them. Both are saying they got lucky being in an alliance with reliable people- anyone else would have screwed them. Also saying Jun will never win though. Jee must have come out- offering the blueberry muffin- they say no. Talking about the "dream team" name for their alliance. Rob says Ali won't put them up if she wins- he talked to her. Jee says they should solidify it more while they can. Rob's nose blow drowned out some conversation from Jee. Rob says if Jun wins it they're going up for sure. (now an airplane noise) Jee thinks Ali might throw it- Rob doesn't think she will and Justin says he doesn't think she'll care if she wins. Justin says it would be smart for her to throw it so she could compete next week instead. Jun comes outside and says it's cool how they mounted the cameras "up there". They are now on inside lockdown until further notice. Quick switch to Jun and Ali whispering in bed- can't hear Jun. Ali says someone was talking sh*t about Dana's body. Ali asks Jun if she heard him saying anything about her. No idea who they are talking about, and I can only hear Ali. Ali says there is a limit to what she'll do and who she'll flirt with. Ali says she has a good feeling "we're" going to win today. Ali's going back to sleep, as is Jun. Switching back to quad... Erika has tingling in her hands- might be from sleeping on it. Jack saying something about nerves and spinal cords. Jun comes in kitchen. Jun telling Jack how Ali said she trusts no one but her- saying Ali wants to be in good with her. Jun giggling about it. Jack says he knew exactly what Jun was doing, and that Ali is transparent. FOTH |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:47 am     Jack and Jun whispering about Ali.. Jack says Ali is all over who she is with at the moment, being giddy.. says Jun has a very nice touch on the ball. Jun has reported to Jack what she ans Ali said earlier, that she told Ali what Jack had said and that Ali had actually suggested throwing it. They say Jee and Robert aren't the brightest bulbs. Jack says Robert heaps abuse on all the women in the house (ed. good to hear HIM say that!) Jun tells Erika the above.. Erika says should she talk to Ali? Jun says just say we have your back, ask if she's ok. Erika does this.. Ali is in bed, says whiney that she's okay. Erika leaves, Jun enters bedroom (THEY are on inside lockdown ow) Jun asks if Ali has heard Robert trashing Jun.. Ali down plays it totally (ed and we know she's heard plenty of that and said it too) Ali asks if Jun has heard Robert degrade her, couldn't hear the answer but Ali said there is a limit to what she will do Jun and Ali agree they feel good about the coming competition. Ali asks if Jun wants HOH, Jun says hellyeah, want that stuff from home! Jun says back to bed and gets dressed over bikini, extracting bikini.. back in sleep clothing. (ed looks like they learned from Erika's resting up before last weeks competition. Justin is also back in bed. Jun went out to the house area, following to see. She's checking with Jack.. Ali told Jun she dosn't trust anyone but Jun.. Jack says ali is jumping around like a pinball, they laugh. Jack says Ali never considered sticking with any alliance. Jun says she has bounced, Jack says but he knew where her heart was. Says Ali is childish and transparent. FOTH |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:52 am     Jun now back in bedroom where Ali sleeps. Erika in Tortoise room; she's been unpacking the HOH stuff and moving her stuff back. Jack reporting what Jun reported.. Erika says Ali said that to her too, she's going crazy, says Ali is young, impressionable, likes all the attention.. Jack says Ali craves it. Suddenly Erika raises her voice and shows Jack a picture of her 70 lb lapdog.. Jack says she saved her.. Erika says more than once.. adopted the dog and it had parvo and distemper, spenk $3000 in a month.. (ed. sigh.. I know how that is.. it took over $2000 to keep my cat alive when I got her ) Jack says his wife is similar to Erika in her love for animals.. they got one cat and it cost $500 to get it on its feet. He's never spent thousands at once, though. More dogtalk from Erika.. she's very animated and clearly loves her critters .. very cool.. Going to quad just to check.. FOTH |
Kaili | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:58 am     Jack & Erika whispering on 3... Erika saying "she's very young, impressionable, loves the attention of the guys" Now Erika goes to talking about her dog, when she adopted her she had parvo and distemper, cost her $3000- most expensive dog she ever got- loves her. Jack says Erika is like his wife with love of animals- Jack talking about adopting a cat and it costing the $400 immediatly- always spending money on strays- he gave up years ago. He never spend $3000 at once. Erika says when you look at them, they're little lives- not just animals. Jack says he realized she was a true humanitarian when he saw her picking up ants and moving them- she laughs and says he was thinking "what a weird-o" Erika goes back to the dog- how she seemed sick the day after she adopted her- took her to the vet- she was 4 months old- they tested her and said she has parvo which is basically a death sentance. All you can do is keep them on IV and hope they'll fight it... FOTH Comes back and Erika is talking about her dogs eye now- there was no test for distemper- had to forcefeed her to eat with a turkey baster. Erika looks at the picture again- now saying she was worried that her other two dogs would get sick from her. But they were fine and they all lived. Jack asking how she knows their ages- she says vet guesses by their teeth. Erika had to pick her mom up from a shelter- waited outside- didn't want to go in because she knew she would come home witha dog- her mom didn't come out for a long time so she finally went in and taht was the day she got Joey. They look at you with such sad eyes- says they keep strays longer than owner turn-ins... (sorry, I want to find a game convo, but I love animal talk and can't turn this off....) Erika says "don't even get me started on children..." Jack says a boy Stacy is adopting- needed medical attention. Erika says that kills her, Jack says you can't even recognize him fro pictures from back then and now. Erika says she's homesick- Jack says the perks, a piece of home, stress- wears on you. Erika is laying on the bed hugging a stuffed bear and crying. |
Kaili | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:08 am     Missed a bit, still on Jack and erika... Jack says he's experiencing short term memory loss- it's scary. Saying he nursed his dad the last few years of his life. His dad could recall games he coached and played in in the 30s and 40s but couldn't remember what he did the day before. He was 66 when he died- in good shape, but had cancer. His dad died in 91- had cancer. All heavy smokers- but his dad had quiit for 15 years. Talking about the types of cancer they had- his brother died of it too. He gets checked out but he's fine. Prostate cancer runs in his family but he's fine. Erika talking about genetic predisposition and living right to avoid it. Her mom had a boyfriend who lost both his parents and his 47 year old sister die of cancer. Talking about families that are predisposed to diseases and they don't do anything to stay healthy and avoid it. Now talking about diabetes. |
Kaili | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:12 am     Jack talking about his dad's death- talking care of him the last four months. He and his brother always had a favorite parent- he and his mom weere close and his brother was closer to their dad but he's the one who took care of him- says all four were very tight. Jack became the dad- his dad became childlike- His dad and stepmom had had a bad falling out before his dad came to live with him- it was the doctors in AL that sais he only had a few months to live. Erika saying how everyone lives long in her moms family- late 80s- her mom's mom is still alive and smoking in her 80s. Her mom's in good health. They are getting up- Erika leaves room to get some coffee drink. |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:13 am     More talk of animals and the pound and how long they are kept alive. Jack asks if owner turn ins have to give a reason.. no.. sometimes they just don't "want" them anymore.. Erika cannot stand that.. (ed. me too) Jack says they probably say take my kids too. E and J upset. Jack says the boy who Stacey is adopting was in a home and sleeping on the floor, you can't even imagine the difference in him now. Erika says she's homesick.. can hear her sniffling off cam, cam on Jack. Sad sniffles from Erika (a few minutes ago, I could actually hear a loud sniffle from ROBERT, and Jack and Erika are off in the tortoise room.) In the LR, Jee was shuffling cards.. Back to quad. Yes. Jee alone in LR with cards, shuffling on two feeds. Jack and Erika on two feeds being sad about things. Unfortunately quad sound is on Jee. Jack says without Erika to talk to, he'd have been carted off, mumbling. Jack says he mentioned yesterday, he felt like a principal at recess, monitoring the kids, something about a bee .. then come in and talk to Erika while the kids are in class. Jack says the woman bashing that Robert has never stopped now esp on Jun and Ali. Jun told Jack that Jee is really sick of Robert's attitude towards women, that Jee does go along with it and get on Jun. Erika says they are sick of Jun. Jack says Jee is sick of them too. Jack says they play skeetball (he's been saying skeetball all day, I was typing skeeball).. Erika asks skeet or skee.. Jack says yeah, feels all muddled. He is sure he's had short term memory loss since being in the house.. to prove it to himself the other night, he went thru all the people on a board he's on and he couldn't remember two of their names.. scary feels like his brain cells are dying. Last four mo of his dad's life, dad was with Pat and Jack, Pat was really great with him.. and he could remember games he coached 40 years ago, but not yesterday.. he had cancer.. he was 76. Jack says his dad was in good shape, played golf, kept him going. Mom died in 91, dad in 96.. both died of cancer, Jack says all three of his family, all smoked. His dad quit but.. dad had prostate cancer, spread, mom had liver cancer. Jack gets checked regularly. Brother takes bad care, has heart problems too. Erika has been asking questions in here too. Erika thinks if you know your parents are predisposed you'd think you'd take steps to not fall into that (ed. she's said that about Jee, but life is just more complex than that.. imo) Jack says family tends to diabetes so he really watches his diet. Jack says his dad, great generation, meat/potatoes, worked in coal mines.. Jack says his dad remarried a year after his mom died, woman very much like his mom.. and Jack says the medical care wasn't good.. then had complete falling out with Jack's stepmom.. came to live with Jack, Jack took dad to cancer specialist and said this is very very bad.. (the Florida docs had said no big deal, had 5 years or so).. Jack says if dad hadn't fallen out with stepmom, Jack wouldn't have been with dad at end.. Jack ended up being the father, dad went to hospital at end.. some of dad's football players came to see him. Jack was supposed to speak at a tribute in August, but came in BB house.. Jack always palled around with Mom and brother with dad.. but Jack ended up nursing his dad, wondered "where is Bob?".. Dad became childlike.. stepmom did come back for last monthes, but it never healed, Jack tried. Erika said but his dad had Jack.. (can hear a hairdryer outside their room. Jack says wonderful Erika's mom is in such good health.. Erika says they live long in her mom's family.. Erika's grandmom still living/smoking at 92.. Checking quad, Jee and Robert.. Jee is thinking and preparing himself for the competition.. Robert slurping some liquid. Says maybe we should take a nap too. Jee says it is hard for him to nap. Jee is afraid they'd wake him up to practice. Robert is sniffing and Jee is shuffling cards.. playing solitaire. |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:16 am     Jee was told by John that they will get a short practice. Says to Robert they have to make the most of it, get the feel of it, then that's it. Jee says doesn't know yet, give it a try, feel out the competition.. seems to him best to be conservative.. even if you get stuck between the bump.. IF you go later in the game.. just a feeling Jee has. |
Kaili | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:18 am     I take taht back- she's still in there talking with Jack. She says her dad's family are all smokers- they're talking about smoking now- Jack hates the smell and always has- his brother smokes. Jack has never tried one- Erika says she smoked for a few years. Talking about tobacco companies. Jack says we should ship all the tobacco to China and Cuba...commie b@stards. Erika laughs- talks about how expensive they are now. Jack says they should be $10- anything to put them out of business- Erika says there will always be smokers. Talking about Calif. and other places that don't allow smoking- talking about people standing outside smoking- both just chatting about how gross smoking is. Jack says that's what Jee should be doing- more than learning card tricks he should be quitting. Talking about how addictive it is. Erika saying it's so much more psychological addiction- Jack has heard that- your body clears up pretty quick. Erika sounds really, really nauseated about smoking- both are going on and on about how foul, disgusting, etc it is. |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:20 am     Jee thinks the order of the players is very important. Jee thinks Jun and Ali are probably going to throw it but if they realize that Jack doesn't have it.. they might. Robert says he heard Jun says she wants HOH.. then says of course she wants the attention and so on. Jee thinks she might throw it anyway. Jee thinks they have to be very careful.. not talk too soon. Two lanes, five competing.. Jee says from here on, we cannot tell ANYONE what we are going to do.. based on what we say.. Ali thinks we are going to put up Jack/Erika so Ali thinks she can throw it.. not many people left so have to keep things between us two and decide if it is let out or not. |
Kaili | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:22 am     Jun comes in- she has a tummy ache- ate too much yesterday. Jun is looking at the turtles... and talking about turtles. Jack is anxious to practice- jun says they don't have much time to. Jun's going to go take a nap. Saying how thermostat is at 77 right now. (Taking a break- I need to clean the kitchen and o my dishes) |
Watcher | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:24 am     Rob asked Erika if he could have one of her mochas...she says sure. He takes it over to the sofa where Jee is lying on stomach. Rob asks Jee what's up? Jee says nothing...just thinking and trying to prepare myself for the competition. Says maybe they should take a nap, but BB would probably wake them up to practice and once he is awake, can't go back to sleep. Jee says he is going to give it a try and he thinks conservative is better. If people throw to hard they are going to go over. Thinks best way to do it is just throw conservative and get over the hump. We'll see how it goes. Rob just listening...interjects an occasional yeah. Jee says if he finds out he is just going to top three, just send him out now...doesn't want to be the one of the three that goes out. Depending on how games goes and order of the players, Jee has gut feeling that Jun and Ali are going to throw it, but if they realize Jack isn't going to get it, he thinks they will go for it. Rob whispers something...can't hear. Jee says if she doesn't want it, even better for us. Whispers that they have to be careful and not say certain things to early. Rob says he knows. Rob asks how many competing...Five of us, replies Jee. Says from here on we can't tell people what we are going to do. All the players decisions in this house are going to be based on what they say. They have to be cautious now...it's very limited..numbers going down more and more. Says anything they want to say to them, they will discuss it with each other first. Yeah, yeah, agrees Rob. Says best to keep them on their toes. Right, says Rob. Jun comes through. Talking about they should eat later as the won't be able to eat until after competition. |
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