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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Big Brother IV - July 2003 Live Feed Archives: July 17, 2003 - Day 13 - Food Challenge - Erika & Michelle nominated: Archive through July 17, 2003

Seamonkey

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 01:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Erika out, eating, tells Dave it isn't that good.. offeres to help with ducks.. he says this is his last one, she says she wants to practice..

Inside Jee whispers to Ali, so she must have dashed in to "tell" (I think it is ali and not Michelle).. blond in bikini with hair pulled back on top..

Jack and Robert in LR.

Dana now inside too.. someone must have mentioned Jun being on the team and being able to cook.. Dana says SHE could have cooked if her team won..


Bathroom.. Robert whispers to Dana? Telling Robert that Ali told her that Jack said Robert made him a deal.. Robert says that is totally totally false.. Dana says I knew it!

(LOLOL)

Robert, Dana out to kitchen.. Jun says they gave them way too much food.. Dana says why?.. Jun says just so you guys will be more upset.

Jee is helping Jun with food prep.

Feeds back outside where Dave and Ali now are talking..]

Michelle comes out, flops on towel.. Ali asks if she is ok.. she is sniffling.

Dave comes over to Michelle.. says hey, I know I never talk strategy with you, but I know what is going on.. don't worry, I'm working on things.. he pats her tummy, asks if she feels better, did she throw up.. gets up.. then casually back and asks Michelle if they told her she's up on the block but that Erika will be gone.

Sniffle.. yes.. says Michelle..

Dave goes to Jee (missed part because UPS arrived..)

Dave offered Jee an individual deal.. Jee freaked..

Jee runs to Robert.. tells Robert that Dave is backing out .. David rushes into HOH and says nevermind.

Jee is telling Dave he's screwing up.

Dave says "whatever, F it"

Jee wants to know about Dave's offer..

Dave says he told Justin/robert he'd think about it, talk to Jack..

Jee wants Dave to maybe join "us"

robert is there of course..

Jee is pissed that Jack said something to Ali, who ran to Dana.

Dave says he only talked to Jack.

Dave says deal now is one week, protect Robert/ Justin/Jee

Robert says it would be good for Dave and Jack (???)

Jee is upset about all the talking, says he's going to get an ulcer.

Jee wants Jack/Dave with "us three"

The all agree that Dana is loose cannon, but Jee and Robert claim that Dana is not in cahoots with them.

Jee says he has to put two up this afternoon.. Jee is taking this very seriously.

Jack is claiming that Jack didn't TELL Ali, says others see them talking to Robert and assume.

Dave says he will talk to Jack now

Dave says he didn't think Jack talked to Ali, that Jack tries to be sneaky but doesn't give out must.

Jee says others think Jack/Dave/Erika are together.. Dave says, yea, being in same room.. Robert tells Jee that Dave isn't STUPID, he knows..

Robert says everyone wants Erika out.

Jee says get back to him really quick.

Jee is munching down..

turns to Robert and.. all cams go to outside where

then inside.. Robert says f-ing pisses him off.. says those two Aholes (Jack and Dave) if they talked they are both going on the block..

Jee says he told Justin and Robert it was risky and now with all this scheming the three of THEM are being seen.

Robert, Jack and Nate

OH man, lost the FEED

anyway those three whispering in bathroom.. talking about maybe taking Michelle off block, but what if Mich gets POV

Jee, Erika and Mich going for veto..

Dave says the three guys are scared.. wanting all of them to toe the line

Nate tells these two Erika will be with us til the end but Jee and co.. think Erika is gone

Jack says he made a deal with Justin..

Agree not to put up those three.

Nate says he didn't say if he was goin' for it..

They really want to take Mich off, put up Dana.

Yikes!!

Now Erika walks in.

nate, Erika, Dave, Jack..

feeds switch..

Jee now says what if he tells me no.. I just put up David and Erika.

Robert says Michelle is still crying.. Jee dismisses that..

Jack saying someone ratting us out..

Jee and Robert in tow feeds

the four in two..

Sound.. Jee is saying what he told to Justin and Robert.. lost sound.. ACK

Ryn

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 01:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They are filling Erika in.

Dave is talking about going to the guys and saying that everyone wants Dana out so nominate her now.

(ed - my head is starting to hurt)

Seamonkey

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 01:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Trying for feed two, Jee and Robert..

Robert saying they wouldn't be that stupid.

Jee says they are bullsh*tting.. have sound, no pic.

Jee says he can't risk putting up David and Erika, David will squela (tell all)

program error

Seamonkey

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 01:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
BTW in the middle of all that there was the brief outside cam and Michelle was blubbering and really whining "its not FAIRRR.. " with Ali and ?? not sure who else..

Ryn

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 01:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Plotting on 4 cams...

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Jee saying "I can't put up dave rigt now because he will squeel on us"

Jee says I need to stick with Erika and Michelle

Robert asks Jee who is out there (in the kitchen)

Erika Dave, Jack, Nathan, Jun etc........

Now Jee thinks maybe Nathan knows and is against them.......

Jee (to robert)- we revealed our secret alliance of you me and Justin......

(Ed - Jee is getting pretty paranid....)

Jee "we shoulda just stuck with the plan man...."

Robert - whose idea was it? I didn't even think of it. (ed - I think they mean promising some of the folks immunity this week)

Jee - that was justins.....

silence for a couple minutes - posting....

foth on cam 3, Erika on cam 4

Ryn

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 02:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee - if Erika survives this week she could cause chaos...

Jee thinks they are flipping on them

Jee thinks maybe they should bring Nathan in to their 'secret' alliance to kepe themselves safe (and maybe Ali too).

Jee - "where is Justin while all this is happening"

Robert "probably outside"

Jee - I know Dana knows about this cause she hasn't come in here today and she is always in here.

Robert sighs.....

(ed - I haven't a clue is anything that Jee says is correct - the guy has been holed up in the DR with Robert talking himself in circles all afternoon)

Keepitreal

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 02:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee is getting very paranoid. He says they should have never offerred the deal to Jack and Dave. Now everyone will know they had a secret alliance (him, Justin and Robert). He said they should have just stuck with the plan. Robert said it wasn't my idea to make the offer. They both blame Justin. They seem a little paranoid that Justin might work a deal for himself. Jee just said that move just affected the whole game for them. He said now next week any of those three can go. He said if Erica survives they are done. He says I shouldn't have listened to Justin. He said remember I told you last night that they could flip on us and they are. He said we are in deep caca trouble. He said that they need Ali and Nathan to help them out. Robert said to wait not today. Too much has gone on. Jee keeps asking where Justin is, maybe he has found something out. Jee said Dana is finding them to be shady because she isn't coming in here today.

Prisonerno6

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 02:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Feeds are really wonky -- audio not matching video (my head hurts, too, Ryn...)

Converstaion in kitchen rehas of bathroon convo with Jun thrown in. Nate says Jee is loyal to Justin. Stillls wants to convince him to nominate Dana instead of Michelle or Erika.

Quick switch the Jee and Robert in HOH. Says what just happened changed whole game for them. Says they have to get Nate and Ali in on it. Knows Dana knows what's going on, because she hasn't come into HOH once today.

Switching to kitchen. Damn, audio is outside, not Kitchen. Dave talking to Jun in kitchen.

Trying another feed to see if I can't get their convo...

Ryn

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 02:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee, being paranoid, peeks out from the HoH

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Jee now has Justin in the HoH room - giving him the details - saying they jumped the gun with David.

Prisonerno6

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 02:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Robert talking to Jun now, says if everyone sticks to plan...

Argh...picture keeps flipping to FOTH and sound is wonky.

Robert telling Jun she needs to calm her (Dana, I think) down. Jun says she won't listen. Robert talking about how Dana has flipped out...and sound freaking cuts out again!

(sorry, that's it for me...heading home for the day.)

Seamonkey

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 02:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee tells Robert he is worried that Justin is working his own agenda, might be outside now..

Jee says twice, we should of just stuck with the plan. Robert says that wasn't MY idea, it was Justin's.

Jun and Erika talking in kitchen.

foth on cam 3

Jee keeps chewing in his mic..smacking too.

That move right there, just infected the whole game for us.. think of the consequences.. now, next week, after this week is over, any of the three of us can go up. And if Erika survives, and she might, ..

Jee says he shouldn't have listened to Justin.. I said they would flip on us.

Jee saysshould we bring Nathan into this.

Jee says they need Nate and Ali in on this..

Robert says not now.

Jee asks where's Justin.. Robert says maybe outside. Jee says you know Dana iknows about this because SHE HASN'T been in here all DAY.. and you know that isn't right.. she thinks we are shady now.

Justin, BTW is munching on something in the kitchen

Robert keeps staring at himself in the mirror.

Jee says why hasn't Justin come in here to see us.. maybe you guys should switch up. Tells Robert he needs to eat, he'll pass out.

Robert leaves and Jeee is peeking thru his blinds :)

Robert now out with Jun and Justin.

Jee chews and cogitates alone..

He also pointed out that he, Jee cannot get HOH next time, so not safe..


Robert and Justin now talking.. trying for that feed.

Dave is outside.

Robert LOUDLY blowing nose in bathroom.. Jun is talking to him about "her".. says he knows Dana and Jun are tight.. says no one ever gets anything off of Jun.. says Jun has to calm Dana down. Jun says DANA DOESN'T LISTEN.

Robert says that Dana just follows everyone around and has to know what every convo is about.

lost feed.

going to quad..

Jee is talking to Justin now, in HOH.. asks Jee if he talked to Dave. Jee says he told Dave he had to get back to Jee before nominations. jee says we'll know..

Justin says Jack gave his solid word..

Jee is really worried abot alliance within alliance and it is becoming known.. have to say that is a lie. if we don't then we're in sh!t

Jee asks what Justin has found out.. J says he only talked to Jack.

Says Michelle is flipping out, Ali and Dana are trying to calm Mich, Jun is cooking, Dave playing basketball, don't know where Erika's at (outside talking to Dave :) )

He doesn't mention Robert and Jun talking and they are right inthe kitchen..

Jee sends his minion Justin out into the world and gives a weary sigh.

Robert claims he's never talked to Jack.

now Dana is there .. going to that feed, for sound.. Dana? said Jack is asking if they made deals with peoples..

They wonder why Jack is talking to everyone. Robert says Dave isn't in any position, they know Erika's leaving.. now they'll try to turn everyone against..

Justin says Dave told him thos three are aligned tight (he didn't say that at all)

Says they all know Erika is definitely out..

Justin says Ali freaks him out, too emotional..

keeps losing sound.

Dana is staring outside and by door, maybe listening..

Jee comes out.. says it is hours away, you guys are just fine.. to Jun, Robert and Justin.. Jun says two hours.

Dave comes in and he and Jee go off.

robert is gleeful says getting CRAZY, second week

Jee and Dave..

Dave says Jack didn't say anything to Ali, Ali saw Robert approach them, tried talking to Jack and Ali approached Dana.. Dana's face gave away to Ali.

Dave says he is in.. will NOt put the three up next week, won't veto ERIKA.. but if Erika takes self off, then they all want Dana up.

Jee is still freaked.. says he will put up Dana but EVERYONE has to vote Dana OUT because Jee promised her he wouldn't put her up.

Dave is dealing with Jee.

Jee doesn't want Erika to get that veto.. says Dave and Jack have to try.. Dave says odds are, since he's won nothing yet.

Jee says he will stick with Mich and Erika.. Erika goes.

Dave says if Erika goes off the block, Dana goes off. she is GONE..

Jee is nervous and the sound.

Jee says doesn't want Mich to go
lost sound.

grr..

or they are just nodding..

Ryn

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 02:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
back after re-boot

Dave and Jee in HoH

Dave - I will guarentee that I won't put you three up next week - and I want a guarentee that if someone vetos Erika you will put Dana up. We want Dana out.

Once again jee - I don't want michelle to go - she is just up there as a pawn

feed one switches to foth - no music...

audio on 2 is in and out.

Dave leaves.....

I haven't a clue what these two agreed to - except dave seemed to explain how Dana got a bit of a clue to some stuff going on.....

Grannyg

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 02:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks, Ryn, hopfully got it going!

Justin, dana, robert, jun in kitchen

Robert is quesioning who talked about the game plan. Sound went to outside. changing cams.

robert doens't know why jack is freeking out. dave is not in any position to be making deals. they are trying to turn everyone against us. more people that believe what they are saying the more people are against them. sound still going on and off.

they don't understand ali, they are just trying to get the dark side out first. justin says ali is too emotional.

dana is going outside. jee comes into kitchen. sound is i can't tell where. dave is now in the kitchen they have 2 hours till noms. robert said this is getting crazy.

dave and jee in HOH.

dave first of all. jack didn't say anything to ali. she saw robert approach dave and jack. she tried to talk to jack and he said he didn't know what was going on. ali find out by detective way. michelle is nothing.

dave and jee shake hands. whispering i can't here. he will put up dana. will vote dana out. no problem. dana cannot get veto. jee says they HAVE to get the veto.

dana cannot get the veto. jee is putting up ericka and michelle and if someone gets the veto they are taking ericka off and putting dana up and dana will go. I can't understand on this going on. lost sound AGAIN.

I maybe not have this correct. but this was the best i could understand. strong players work better together not players like dana and ali. jee seems relieved. dave and jee shake hands. lost video and sound.

Seamonkey

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 02:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dave tells Jee the two of them are both strong players and strong players do well together. Jee agrees, not paranoid players like Dana and not yackity yack players like Ali (he throws the F word into these phrases like "Jee Osbourne")

Feeds outside.. Dave talks to Mich, tells her to turn over, doesn't want cancer.. Mich is being dramatic says probably I'll get it.. Dave says too young.
Now Robert comes out but sound goes inside with foodtalk.. trying for an outside feed now..

Talking about drinking coffee.. coffee but no honey..

Nate says he couldn't be on Survivor because of the food.. no picture but hear Ali and Nate.. trying feed three..

Seamonkey

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 02:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ryn .. Dave explained, but claimed that Jack didn't ask Ali if she'd been approached by Robert.. but he definitely did, tho he didn't give details.. my feeds are frozen solid..

Ryn

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 02:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Erika in HoH room with Jee - but I have no audio......

now she seems to be back out.....

(ed - once again I have MAJOR RP problems.....)

Grannyg

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 02:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
quad cam

cam1: jack in kitchen

cam2: far off view of kitchen

cam3: nate outside

cam4: ali out back with nate

ericka went and told jee she understood that jee felt like he had to put her up and that is was ok. jee says things about being hard, don't know what to do. ericka says it really is ok. just being really nice to jee. maybe trying to make him feel bad. but she did it so nicely. when she left, jee said "oh sh!t".

Cajundee

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 02:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My RP is going in and out too, but the part I caught with Erika is that she went into HOH and said that if Jee put her up she understood and wouldn't go gunning for him and that she thought he was a great person. It was short and sweet

Ryn

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 02:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 3 - outside.....

Nathan whispering to Alison - while Dave and Robert play duckball....

Cam 1 - Alison pulls Jee into the HoH room.

Jun comments on all the people in and out of his room as they walk by.

Alison - Jack told me - that he is gonna vote for Erika - and David said that tooo - so its gonnabe 8-0

But Dana told me that Robert and Justin are outmaking deals and I didn't get a deal so that that mean I am on the 'outside?' (pp)

Foth audio.....

back - Jee is re-assuring Alison

Jee says that Erika was in there badmouthing her....

(ed - I think Alison is weaving a story for Jee in part)

Once again - foth image and backyard audio on cam 1....

Jee says they want Erika out

alison asks about Dana - wonders why she is in the room all the time.

meanwhile on cam 3/4 I can see Nathan, Dave, and Jack talkking (I am on quad cam)

Robert comes in as Jee whispers to her.

Jee says to robert that Alison was worried that they all have Dana's back - they say no.

cam on Foth again - outside audio of a jet (ed - grrrrrrr)

(ed - note - I heard Alison badmouthing Erika to Jee a bit ago)

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Ryn

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 02:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Switching to cam 3....

Nathan gets up - whispers to Erika and Dave - don't take it personally but I am walking away... he heads inside.

Jack - if you get veto, if michelle gets veto - take yourself off the block.

now they are quiet...... other folks outside so they are whispering....

Cam 1.....

Foth and outside audio - and RP crashes....

Cajundee

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 02:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL. Alison made a comment that since Dana was in there all the time, she thought they were friends (or something to that effect..rp audio keeps fading in and out) and Jee asked her if she thought Dana was invited, that she just barged in all the time.

Cajundee

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 02:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They are ripping apart Dana in the HOH. Alison just commented that she is the nicest person and wouldn't hurt a fly but if Dana turns on her ex boyfriend who is the nicest person she knows, she will rip her f'n heart out. Grr audio keeps going in and out. Alison saying she talked to Michelle and that she's ok but has been crying.

Seamonkey

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 02:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Had to KILL rp on TWO computers.. up again on one..

Quad.. Nate outside, Ali outside Kitchen inside.. Jee came out of his hidey hole on way to bathroom several said

Hey, Jee. (to the tune of Hey, Jude)

Justin and Erika in storeroom.

Soda talk.

Erika says she got a duck in the basket.. she's practicing..

Jack goes out.. Dave practicing ducks, Nate lounging.

Kit. Erika, Jun, Ali just went to bathroom and asked Jee if he has a minute so they are going to HOH.

Jee says everyone wants to speak to me..

What's up.. tells her to whisper..

Jack and David told her they will vote for Erika.. 8-0.

but Dana told her that Robert and Justin wree out making deals with everyone and Ali didn't get an offer so are they out to get her?

Jee says no.

FOTHed out sound now..

Jee says Dana doesn't have any credibility.

Ali says Dana made her look bad.

Jee says Dana isn't a friend to Ali, he'll be straight with Ali.


Ali says then Why don't you.. and bb cuts sound (i'm thinking she asked why don't you put up Dana)

Ali pinky swears

Jee tells Ali that Dana will go up if Mich or Erika are off block.

Jee says good to just let Erika go NO ONE will take her off..

Ali thinks the guys like Dana cuz she's in there alot.. Jee says she barges in..

Ali says be careful, everyone hates f-ing Erika but not sure about Dana.. Ali wonders if she is after her.

Robert is in there now..

Robert is upset says you don't believe me when I tell you.. making Ali squirm..

she says she'll just come to you guys..

Robert is loving all the intrigue.

Ali tells Robert that Dana told Ali about plans.. Robert is pissed..

Dana asked Robert if he made a deal with Jack and said Ali told Dana..

BB keeps switching feed/sound on HOH

All are pissed at Dana now.

Ali now says Nate is out there "flipping out" (ed. what a MOUTH)

Robert says he warned Jun that Dana will hurt Jun..

Now Robert wants Dana gone next week.. he totally believed her.. sound switch.

They keep peeking out the window..
Going crazy.. bb keeps switching feed 1 -2 sound.. to foth..

Feed two now is getting outside audio but Jee and Robert and Ali still talk..

Bringing up feed one on other puter..

Robert telling how Erika would lie and steal..

Ryn.. Erika is outside, Ali is in HOH..

Feed two foth with audio from hoh..

and feed one .. totally out of sync too..

Nate and Dana in BR.. going for a feed there.

BB is playing bigtime games with eht audio and video here.

Now Jun and Dana walking into kitchen.. food talk.

Dana walks off camera..

Robert is talking fast to Ali, who says she's a nice person, if that b!tch tries to F over my ex boyfriend, who's the sweetest perosn..

(Justin)..

sound lost.

Continued trashing of Dana in HOH.

Jee again for the zillionth time says Erika cannot get POV.. says Michelle has to understand. Ali says Michelle is still crying..

Ali is acting flabbergasted that Dana is like this. They all think Justin doesn't know.. Ali will he go back and tell her. They say he's not stupid.. Ali knows but.. lost sound

Jee says sorry, she has no chance. none.

Jee wants Michelle to know how much work he's doing FOR her.. (he has mentioned this over and over and over).. Jee says he tried to tell her it is better to be up vs Erika.. Jee was up vs Amanda. Jee seems to think it was really hard to be up vs amanda?

Ali leaves and now Robert and Jee start talking about Jack, sound off..

more foth..

Robert can't believe that ••••• (Dana?)

Jee says he's a nice guy (Jee) but don't F with me..

Seamonkey

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 02:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Robert is VERY intense (and on the wrong side of the food this week).. He and Jee are antsy.. Jee peeking out again..

Jee says Damn I've been approached by almost everybody in this house except Jack.. says Michelle is just too young to be here, too naive in this game.. lost sound.

Jee says he'll go out to brush his teeth before he does nominations..

Robert leaves Jee, calls him "the godfather"..

The godfather, peeks out thru the blinds and fidgits in his swivel chair.

feed switches to Jack talking to?? someone that Dana is the backup plan. Oh. Nate.. who is reading his bible and speaking without sound thanks to BB.

I'm giving up for a bit.. I'm ready to smash something and I don't want it to be my precisous flat panel monitor..

Seamonkey

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 02:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My bad, Ryn.. I must have missed the whole Jee/Erika moment.. and then picked up on Ali/Jee.