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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Big Brother IV - July 2003 Live Feed Archives: July 31, 2003 - Day 27 - Food Competition - Dana/Jun Nominated: Archive through July 31, 2003

Seamonkey

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Take Justin out like they took David out.. Erika and Jack telling how clever they were with Erika crying about David and that they stuck with Ali and Nate thru that..

Jack says have to keep cool and no one's to know that Justin's the target if you go that way.

Jack and Erika say they will support whatever Ali decides.

Gypsy888

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack making perfect sense. If you take Dana out you will be helping Jee3, doing exactly what they need you to do. Get Justin out and everyone will be weaker.

Hopefully Ali will play smart and take this advice. Not sure what she will do. Says she has a headache thinking about this.

Seamonkey

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My head hurts.. will ask for posters

Outside Robert and Nate? Robert says this is a game and we'll be friends outside.

Seamonkey

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Robert tells Ali and Nate that he was busted by BB.. called in.. Robert told them he was totally unaware.. they said it was ok..

Ali says sorry she mentioned it.. BB wouldn't have noticed (ed. but BB did notice)

Seamonkey

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Erika and Nate plotting to convice Ali that Justin must go. Nate says that's why he wanted to win HOH.. Ali is pissing him off.

Erika says Ali wants to put up Dana and Jun.. Nate says OH NO!! groans.

I must go..

Seamonkey

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nate goes in with Ali.. and Nate locks door but Erika comes in (ed. kind of like Robert did when his people were hoh)

so Nate and Erika are double-teaming.. gotta get rid of Justin.. they WANT us to vote Dana off..

Nate says she's putting HIM into danger.

Can't let them persuade you..

Nate says he "has" Robert and Jee.

Ali says no way.

Ali thinks Jee3 don't care about Jun or Dana..

Nate says if you don't get rid of Justin it will be bad for you. Ali says no it won't , you are worrying about yourself..

Nate says he knew she would "do this".. go after Dana, let Justin influence her.

Erika says she hates Dana just as much as Ali does.

Erika says Justin will come after Ali.. Ali says no he won't, I'm not his primary target.

Nate says once he's on the block, he'll be gone.. Erika says you are safer than Nate.

Erika says even if you go up with Nate you are safe.. (ed. Erika's roots get longer with every lie :) )

Zelindar

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
New posting so be nice...

(all pp)
Nate and Erika talking to Ali in HOH strongly urging her to put Justin up. They feel the J3 guys WANT Ali to put Dana up and get her out. They tell her J3 trashes Dana behind her back and really hate her.

Erika is really pushing putting Justin up too.

Nate says Ali is looking out only for herself and not the rest of her alliance. She says he isn't thinking of her (Ali) and he says fine, do whatever you want to do.

Silence...

Nate says Justin is bullcrapping Ali. If Nate doesn't win HOH next week he will be gone. Both N and E says Ali is crazy not to put Justin up now.

E tells A that they really are her alliance. Dana won HOH by default and it was a fluke.

N: if you don't take Justin after out Jun, Jee and Robert will be coming after him. Even if you want Dana gone, put Justin up. Ali admits she wants Dana gone no matter what. Ali feels Nate isn't thinking of her. Nate gets pissed off and said he is finished with Ali. and walkks out of HOH.

more to follow...

Seamonkey

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nate.. Ali you got to trust me on this.


Erika.. we wouldn't steer you wrong.. wouldn't put you in harm's way.

Erika and Nate say Dana won't win next HOH.

Nate says do what you have to do.. Erika echoes this.

Nate says if you leave Jee3 together they'll pick everyone off.

Nate says if you still want to put Dana up, put Justin up with her.. Erika says may be a tie.

Ali says I want Dana.. you aren't thinking of me. Erika says I am.. Ali says I believe you Erika but not Nate.

He gets really pissed says this is like when they were in the f-ing bedroom, I'm done with you and leaves.

Ali says I should put him up.

Erika says everyone is after Nate and you are safe..

Ali says Nate is more afraid of Justin than Dana so he wants Ali to put up Justin.

Ali says I want Dana gone. If it is a tiebreaker, and it is Dana and Justin, I'd have a very bad time.

Erika says SHE, Erika would feel the same but would have to step up (ed. Erika step up??)

Erika AGAIN says the others in Jee3 want them to take Dana away. Ali says Dana is still one of them and a strong one of them.

Ali says if a tie, she will probably vote off Dana. And that would leave Ali as a target of Justin. If she puts up Jun and Dana, Dana goes, not the same.

Justin comes with his army..

(ed. Ali making some sense.)

Erika totally understands where Ali is coming from.

Ali says Dana is after her and Justin isn't.

Ali prefers to send Dana home and prefers not to be the one to take Justin out.

Erika would love for Dana to leave the house, she's evil... Ali says Ali and Erika more of a target of Dana than of Justin.

Ali will never never never never go against Jack and Nate..

Ali says with Nate with a targe on him, it affects Ali too.. She says Nate went and insulted Robert and Jee the other night.

Erika did admit as much as she loved David, it is better for Erika that he is gone..

posting.. out (Zelindar you are doing GREAT!!)

Heyltslori

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nate: What was our primary goal before HOH? I knew you'd do this Allison. Justin is using you.

Erika: Don't think that he didn't have anything to do with your nomination.

Nate: She'll come after me before you so you have nothing to worry about.

They are listening to people outside HOH but I can't tell what is happening out there.

BB: Erika please lower your microphone.

Erika: BTW Dana will go after him. (Nate) I'm sure Justin will go after him, but Dana is pissed at him.

Nate: I know that if I don't win next time I am gone. Ali you're gonna be safe no matter what next week. I'd love to see Dana go as well, but I think it would be crazy not to put Justin on the block with her.

Erika: I agree.

Nate: Ali you gotta trust me on this.

Ali: Alright.

Erika: We wouldn't steer you wrong.

Nate: I really feel like Justin would win the next HOH. You gotta do what you gotta do, but if you leave those three together they are gonna be inseperable. They will pick the rest of us apart.

Ali: What about Jun?

Nate: She's coming after me too.

Ali: Jun can't win Sh**

Nate: It's your decision.

Ali: I don't think you're looking at this from my point of view. When you were HOH I put myself in your shoes. You're not doing that.

Nate: He walks in here and charms you. You're so easily manipulated.

Ali: OMG he didn't do that.

Nate: Ali I am so done with you. Make up your own mind.

Nate leaves the room.

Ali to Erika: I should put his a$$ up!! (laughter)

Ali: wouldn't that be a shocker.

Erika: You have to step back. I know where you're coming from. But we really have to step back. They WANT us to kick out Dana. I want her gone too. Heck I like Justin!

Ali: If it comes down to a tie I WILL vote out Dana. I'll tell you that right now. I've never lied to you and I won't. I want her gone more. She is after me, he isn't. The only thing we can do is just NOT let win next time. I would like NOTHING more then to send Dana home.

Erika: I know, I know you would.

Ali: Why is Nathan wigging out on me?

Erika: He's just frustrated.

Ali: She will definitely come after me. I don't think Justin will.

Erika: I can see where you're coming from.

Ali: I would never go against Jack or Nathan, even tho he's been throwing temper tantrums the last couple of days.

Ali: Do you see how I'm looking at things? Does it make sense?

Erika: both ways make sense.

Ali: All I know is that I want Dana going home.

Erika: Well either way you'll have that choice because it will be a tie. So you'll decide. And Jun won't last with out her.

Ali: I need Nathan to chill out and then come back in here and talk.

Lostintheglades

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Erika and Nate on Hammock...talking about Robert has already turned on Dana. Telling Nate about Dana maybe coming back to the alliance. Nate says Dana is "broke"?

Erika says that it's a much more powerful look if Ali puts up Justin and Dana explaining about making Justin being a decoy. Erika just told Nate that she was thinking of putting up Dana and Jun but she and Jack talked to her.

Nate goes inside..upset by this possibility and asks Ali to talk.

N - what's going on with you?

N - you want to put Jun and Dana up...I think it's a bad move.

Tells Ali that Robert and Jee are through with Dana...telling her she has to put Justin up.

Tells Nate she told Robert and Jee she doesn't have an aliance with him

Erika is there now....telling ali again that Dana means nothing to them.

Nate says if Justin is gone - Robert and Jee won't stay with Dana.
Trying really hard to convince her that taking Dana out is what J3 want...don't let them talk her into putting up Jun and Dana.

Ali says again that Jee and Jun have an alliance. She's putting Jun up because.....

Nate - Tells Ali again..all they care about is Justin...they don't care about Dana. If you don't put up Justin...he'll come after me.

Ali presenting her side. Nate reminding her of what they agreed to before she got HOH.

Erika says don't think that Justin didn't have something to do with her being put up on the block that Justins fingerprints were all over that.

They're listening outside to someone....can't hear what they're listening to but they're very quiet right now.

E - by the way...Dana is after him....(points at Nate) Tells Ali Dana is really P'sd at him for using the Veto. So either way..you are safer than Nate.

N - Ali - he's bs'g you...either way you'll be safe next week.

N - yeah...if we don't win HOH next week I'm gone.
I think it would be a dumb move not to put Justin on the block with her.

N - Ali ...you gotta trust me on this..you got to.
E - We don't want to put you in harms way...
N - I think Justin is going to win HOH before Dana. She skated through that HOH.
I can't sit here and decide for you...but you gotta do or they're gonna pick everyone apart.

Ali is still argueing her case. Telling Nate he needs to step into her shoes...(Ed...oh my, another think about me speech.)

Nate leaves angry...says do what you want...I'm through.

E keeps telling her...they are after Nate...not you.

A - is that why he's wigging out on me?
E - y - if we don't get HOH next week..he's gone.
either way.
A - saying if it's a tie, I don't know if I can not vote Dana out....I honestly don't know if I can do it.

E - they want us to fall into their trap and get rid of Dana for them.

A says again...so if it's a tie..Dana goes so why not just go ahead and put Jun up....who is she gonna go after. And Justin comes with her Army.
she's worried about Justin but she'sworried about her more(Dana).

Erika keeps saying she understands. Ali asks Erika what she thinks..Erika would love for Dana to leave. Dana will come after us before she will the guys.

Ali says he won't go behind Nate's back..but he's already a target either way. Ali talking about when Nate said in front of Jee and Robert that Justin was the biggest threat in competitions and how stupid that was.

E - says it's really tough...either way she has that choice becuase it's going to be a tie vote. And Jun won't be able to handle it without Dana. How Jun tried to pit Jack and Erika against Ali.

A - I need Nathan to chill out and come back in here and talk.

Talk about Dana being a traitor and screwing everything up.

E - either way you're safe they are all after Nate but she thinks strategicly it's a stronger move. If she were Ali...she would feel the same way (wanting Dana out) because she's not a rational person.

Zelindar

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ali tells Erika thet she will not take Justin out. She doesn't need Nate wigging out on her. Erika would like nothing more than to see Dana out. Erika can see Ali's point. Ali will never go against Jack or Nate no matter what.

Ali discussing of what happens next week if Nate goes up - how they can save him somehow.

Talk about how Jun tried to pit Erika and Ali against each other.

A: Why did Dana have to be a traitor?!
E: She screwed everything up.
A: I know she did.

Erika saying she understands Ali's points and feels Ali is a highly intelligent person and respects whatever she does. Both agree nate and Jack are good people too.

Erika feels in her heart that Nate VS Ali - Nate will go. Thinks Justin is the one to get out and that Dana isn't going after Ali anymore but wants to get Nate (Oh she is so wrong).Erika - really tough decision and it's all Ali "It's all you, kid!" Erika leave and Ali asks her to ask Nate to come back in.
...
Nate enters ...
Lockdown...(nomination time) "houseguests please go to the backyard"
Nate says it is a mistake if she doesn't put Justin up but it's up to her. He leaves.

Heyltslori

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Erika: I'd hate for them to be laughing behind our backs. Saying that we did exactly what they wanted us to do...is vote out Dana.

Ali: I agree.

Erika: Either way they will all be going after Nathan. I think that strategically it makes more sense to get rid of Justin. It's a tough decision.

Ali: yes

Erika: and it's all you, it's all you.

Ali: Will you tell Nathan to come in when he's done pouting?

Erika: yes, (leaves)

Nate comes in

Ali: Are you done pouting?

Dang..feed switched to backyard.

BB: Hg's this is a lockdown. Please go to the backyard and pull the shades.

Wearywatcher

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
3:20pm Erika, Ali and Nate talking about Nominatoin suggestions.

Nate: I really feel Justing will win next HOH.

Erika: She (Dana) is a nervous wreck.

Nate: You gotta do what you gotta do. If you dont take Justin out, you leave a strong alliance

Erika: It's going to be a tie if you put Justin and Dana out, you can decide.

Ali: I want her out more than anything.

Nate: Youre so easilly manipulated. He comes in (Justin) and charms you over.

(nate leaves mad)

Ali: I should put HIS ass up on the block! (laughs)

Erika and Ali still planning....

Ali: Is that whay he's (Nate) wigging out on me?

Erika: He's more afraid of Justin than anyone

Ali: I'd have a difficult time NOT voting Dana out if its a tie.

Erika: She is such an evil person. They are actually GIVING dana to us. I so want Jun out too.

Ali: I dont knwo all that.

Erika: You have a chice.

Ali: I totally will vote off Dana if it's a tie. That doesnt leave me as a huge target. What the hell is Jun going to do, come after me?
If I get rid of Dana, Jun will be left out by herself. DO you understand?

Erika: totally

Ali: I want her out more. SHe is after me, Justin isnt.

I dont need Nathan wiggin' out like that.

Erika: Hes just frustrated.
Id like nothing more than Dana out of the house because she is a mean-spirited person.

Ali: The guys wont come after us. I will never ever ever go out after Jack. Im not going to go
behind Nathans back either. Nathan is f... stupid. He told 3 guys in the hottub the other night, he slapped them
right in the face, you cannot do thting like that. They are pissed at him now, they wasnt him out.
If they get HOH next week, they'll put Nate up. DO you thinkthis makes sense or that Im crazy?

Erika: No, it makes sense. What ever you want. Jun will not be able to handle it without Dana.
I know.

Ali: I need Nathan to chill out and come back in here and talk.

Erika: Why did Dana have to be such a trader and screw everything up?

Ali: My head hurts. A lot to think about.

Erika: I respect everything you said. I think you're highly intelligent person.

Ali: thank you.

Erika: Id hate them to be lughing behind our backs saying "They did everything we wanted them to do".
Either way the strategic move is to go after Justin, not Dana. I completely know what youre coming from. It a tough decision.

Erika leaves and Ali asks her to send in Nathan.

Lostintheglades

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Timed out....but Nate is now in HOH with Ali.

Ali is trying to explain to him her views. Regardless of who I put up..if they win..one of us is going out. Ali says he doesn't listen to her, he doesn't care.

N - If you don't put Justin up it's a mistake.
Tells her if Dana gets off by the veto then they are both still here...you gotta put them both up.
you got to.

Nate leaves...Allie gets dressed and leaves HOH.
Going to the BR.(Noms must be getting close.)

Jun in kitchen..doing her thing.

BB just announced a lockdown...and to go outside.

Mandee

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Watching feed 4...

Allie and Erika in HOH room discussing who to put up, strategies, etc...

Erika leaves Allie alone to do some thinking, Allie asks her to have Nathan come in when he's done pouting...

Nathan comes in...

A - I need you to understand me, 'cause you don't.

BB wants HGs outside.

A - Dana is coming after you (N) and me. Something about him being a threat.

N - Mumbles...

A - If one of them goes up, one of is us gone, regardless.

N - I think it's a mistake if you don't put Justin up. You can tell him that we won't vote him off, we just need to split he and Dana up.


**Switching to Quad Cam.**

Most HGs outside, Allie heading outside. Jun still in the house.


F1

Jack discussing how having a daughter is one of the best things to happen to a father.

Allie putting on make up.

Erika and Robert sitting on opposite ends of a couch.

Mandee

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 04:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
N and A on hammock. N wants them to work with one another, instead of allowing them to kick "us" out...

Allie says that the Jee3 view Nathan as the biggest threat.

N- You need to f'n choose.

A - Don't be mad at me.


....


Allie is talking with Nathan about how Dana has been trying to get onto the show for four years. She's been plotting for four years of how to win. Allie feels she's the driving force for the dark side.

Grooch

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 04:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun and Dana outside on lawnchairs. Justin and Jee nearby.

Jun says that it might be her last meal she cooks tonight. Asks Dana if she is nominated if she should take it graciously and still cook for everyone. Dana says no way. Don't you dare.

Jee tells story about he ran away from school, they were looking for him. He had his friends with him. When he got back to school, the Korean school made them all stand for 4 hours with their arms out in front of them, until they broke down and cried.

Said that in a Korean school if you get a 90 on a test, you would get 10 whacks on the hand. 1 whack for each wrong answer.

Grooch

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 04:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana & Jun discussing outfits to wear on Weds show. Start talking about whether Jun should cook this week. Dana says no, just cook for yourself.

Talking again about outfits to wear, complaining about how hot it is outside.

Jun- Last year there wasn't a lot of cattiness here

Dana- Because there is nothing but kids in here

Dana- Their just setting up cameras and shit

Female voice - guys can I have everyone in now

They all enter the house

Grooch

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 04:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee is mad that there is no bottled water. "We're on PB&J and we can't have any water either?!"

FOTH

R151996

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 04:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The female voice was Ali to start the nomination ceremony--she was wearing her key.

Showed HMs going inside and finally we get FOTH on all feeds.

Ryn

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 05:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Back from FOTH - no word yet....

Ryn

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 05:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Erika hugs Dana - she said she feels sick.

JAck and Erika said she did great - Jun was in the storage room

Cams switch briefly to people in living room......

Ali talks to Nathan - Dana is nominated - not sure who else.

Grooch

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 05:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They're back.

Outside-

Ericka hugs Allison says she did what she had to do

Jack said everything will be ok.

Jack and Ericka go inside

Ally and Nate sitting down outside. Aklly says she feels sick. Hopes Jack isn't mad at her.

Nate says everything will be ok but thinks she might be playing with their emotions to much.

Ally asks Nate if he is mad at her, will he snuggle with her tonight.

He says no, not after last night.

She says she was tired.

Justin42

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 05:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Strategy is if Justin vetos Dana, Robert goes up and will be kicked out...

Not entirely sure who else is nommed, though...

Starseed

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 05:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
FEED 2

Alison has nominated Dana and Jun (edited - ryn) for eviction.