Archive through July 18, 2003
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July 18, 2003 - Day 14 - Dave wins POV - Lots of plotting.:
Archive through July 18, 2003
Norm3000 | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 12:58 pm     Check out CAM# 1 for the information Alision, Jun, and Michelle are worried what is Dave gonna do with the Veto. |
Ryn | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 12:58 pm     I can't see anyone wearing the POV - and they just focused on the box, it is possible they have not done the POV yet. Haven't see Alison - perhaps she won it and is in the DR.

 Alison won the POV i think - jack just said "nice throwing Ali" |
Dan | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 12:59 pm     Nathan didn't win the veto. He just said "I came second again." |
Ryn | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 01:02 pm     Alison talking to Dana - telling her not to worry about it (it?) They are whispering soo quietly, can't understand it.... Ok - it isn't Ali - Dana just said "if they use it...." to Ali |
Norm3000 | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 01:03 pm     It is david they were talking on CAM #1 before. |
Kuchi | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 01:04 pm     After the convo in the kitchen, Ali went outside and got Dana and they went into the blue dotted room, followed by nate. NO camera on them. Then Michelle walked towards that area and camera showed Dana and Michelle talking about clothes. Whispering so hard to hear them now. Moved to hoh room where Jee Dave Michelle are talking about letting Dave use the veto and put dana up. Michelle is working hard to get Dana put up.....saying dana tougher player than erika |
Ryn | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 01:06 pm     Alison and Dana are really conspiring - talking about whats going on. Too hard to follow....
Cam 4 - HoH room.... Michelle, Dave, and Jee.... Michelle pushing - that its so hard having 'her' in the house. Jee - everyone has been wanting Erica to go and its been since the beginning. Jee - stick with the original plan to get Erica out.
Michelle saying there is too much risk waiting for another week - to evict Dana. BB might throw something at them. |
Ryn | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 01:07 pm     Dave does indeed have the Power of Veto..... |
Ryn | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 01:10 pm     Michelle tells Jee neds to really think about it - that if Erika stays Jee is not in trouble. Dave - we have time on our side - if nothing changes we stay the same - if Dana starts recruiting people...... Michelle says Dana has already been stirring things up. Jee - you have to understand my position - I put her up. Maybe David has a better relationship with her, but I said things to her when I put her up - said things on national TV against her. Jee - if you go against this people are going to start wondering whats going on. |
Kuchi | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 01:12 pm     cams 1& 2 have dana ali nate and justin sitting right outside storage room chatting about the fact that it is raining. cams 3 & 4 Michelle working really hard to change jee's mind about not leaving things as is and allowing dave to remove michelle and put dana out and get her out NOW. Jee is resisting.....but michelle pushing. Dave listening mostly |
Seamonkey | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 01:16 pm     David won it.. David and Michelle are really making a case (Michelle is doing the talking) that they should take Erika off and put Dana up. Jee is panicking.. he says EVERYONE wants Erika out, not just Robert.. Michelle keeps pointing out that if Dana is up now and OUT she isn't a risk. (ed. Michelle is making SENSE, here, but Jee is assuming that What Robert wants is what everyone wants.) Jee keeps saying stick with it, stick with it.. Michelle says Dana knows.. Jee says no one told Dana, she figured it out. (ed.. I know yesterday Dave said any deals he makes will be with Jee). Jee says he is secure.. but if "you two" go against this.. have to go with plan so all can be trusted.. Michells says, seriously, Jee take the rest of the day to think about this.. if we take Erika off she is NOT going to go after you, Jee.. Dave says Dana may really start recruiting. Michelle says Dana said she is going to start stirring things up. Jee says he isn't going to say he doesn't trust Erika, but no one does (ed, huh).. Again threatens that if David goes against this, people are going to start questioning David. David says HE put Erika up.. Michelle says will be tough having Dana here, has to pretend to be her best friend. Jee says Michelle has to do that to play the game. Mich says again, if Dana gets HOH.. lost audio. Dave said Dana said if she gets HOH, she will put up Justin and Robert and then one of them will be gone .. Jee keeps saying one out of ten chance for Dana.. (ed. Michelle and David are rocking here.. Jee not giving in so far) Jee says if Dana puts someone up it is a strong player, not you (to Michelle) (ed. Jee slips and lets Mich know he thinks she's not strong, yesterday he slipped to Mich and told her he was in the guy alliance.. and she absolutely noticed it and repeated it) Mich says we talked about being nice people (Jee and Mich) and hard to play.. Dave says don't let her fool you she's a b!tch.. Jee says don't think about the numbers any more, may have to start changing things.. Jee guarantees that Justin and Robert will take care of it, and Jee. Jee now talking about Dana says she said she'd put up Nate and Ali.. Dave says Dana is playing both sides, Dana told him she'd put up Justin and Robert.. Mich says Dana told the GIRLS "we have to stick together against the guys" Jee not getting the thread, says no Dana doesn't think that way, she's ready to put up Nate just like that.. (ed.. like Dana tells only Jee the truth?) Mich says Jee has obviously made his decision but he should think about it and see what happens with Dana.. |
Ryn | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 01:20 pm     Robert has joined the discussion (Dave, Michelle & Jee in the HoH room). Telling michelle to stick with the original plan. meanwhile dave sticks a duck in front of a camera and squeeks it.
Dave leaves the room..... |
Ryn | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 01:22 pm     Dave reports back to jack in the bathroom.... Dave is telling Jack they need to find a way to convince "them" to get rid of Dana (save erika). |
Ryn | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 01:24 pm     Dave says "I am supposed to go with the plan but to watch Dana in case she starts pulling stuff." They agree they need to keep working on Jee so hopefully they can change his mind..... Dana comes in and starts asking them whats up - Dave makes up a story....
 Dana says she doesn't know who to believe cause everyone is running around saying sh***t Dave leaves with Dana - jack stays shaving... |
Kira33 | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 01:29 pm     (sorry this is a little late) Jee, Dave and Michelle are talking in the HoH room about the Veto Jee: Just stick with the plan...everybody is going to vote Erika off...if you want to ptake mich off and put dana up Dave: Dana will go quick Jee: But if you go against this plan, you're going agagint everyone Mich: But everyone is down with BOTH plans.....she knows if she goes up - you're screwed, I"m screwed...b/c she knows that you would put her up about the veto...I think it's WORSE if Dana stays. Michelle knows she's safe, she's saying Jee is in trouble...if Dana gets HoH, then she may put Jee up Mich says Ali says that Dana needs to leave Mich: It's soo hard having her in this house and having all this tension Dave: I want to make sure it's not b/c Robert wants her (Erika) to go Jee: No, everyone wants her to go...stick with the original plan to get Erika out Mich: Its gonna be a risk b/c.... Dave: It's a risk for you - and your numbers.... Jee: Everybody needs to stick with the plan Mich: Say on Sun we put her up, she's gone - if we put her up next week, there's that ful weeek - too much risk (veto, etc.) you know know....and what if the veto - no jee, this is fine, I'm fine with still being on the block Jee: Just stick with it okay....it's not like I have a secret alliance with her Mich: There's obviously people we've been talking to that we can't trust Jee: It's her paranoia, she saw maybe Jack - we were trying to secure your status...that's why she thinks... b/c of that she got the feeling she might be put on the veto block, it's her own way of thinking - she knows everyone is against her. She doesn't think we're against her but... Mich: Her and two other peopel have an alliance but I'm not gonna name names....Jun's on our side isnt she? Jee: I've secured every single angle...let's go with the plan (so we can all be trusted) Mich: If Dana goes this week and Erika stays, you're NOT in trouble - she's gonna go after other poeple Dave: We have time on our side. If nothing changes we stick with the plan, if Dana changes and starts recruiting people, then we..... Mich: She was gonna start stirring things up, that's what she said....Erika doesn't affect us! Jee: She might say she's not after me, but I"m not gonna say I trust her b/c no one ever did...I put my life on the line to put her up....to say things to her face thinking she's going on...I secured your safety, if you leave it as is she's still gonna go...if you go against this people are gonna question what's happening with David....I'm a little nervous about it - but I'm the one that put her up....I was too honest about it, coz I put her up thinking she's gonna be gone Mich: It's gonna be tough having her here coz I have to pretend she's my best friend....if she gets HoH, we're in trouble. You have no idea. Dave: She was saying if she gets HoH, Justin and Robert are going up. That's what she said BEFORE. Jee: She's lovey dovey with everyone.....freak chance she does get HoH, we can manipulate her too b/c she has no one to trust Mich: I can't believe that anymore - if I (backstab) it's not my character, nothing will ever bring that out, I just can't be that kind of person but SHE can!.....It's just so hard for me to win in this house with that (inability to backstab) Jee: If she does put someone up it won't be you, itll be a strong player...you think there really IS a group now? Mich: Jee seriously, I will never talk bad about her again..me and dave have history I can trust him...anything I say to you do NOT let it out...b/c I'm not saying anything else out there, I just won't do it. I just don't know who to trust anymore. I'm just gonna like keep to myself. Jee: All alliances turning away from each other now....Dana at this point she HAS no alliance....Dana said she'll put up Nate or Alison coz she hates them (so we're safe) Dave: She told me she'll put Justin and Robert Mich: She's going to everyone and saying different things.....she said girls against guys to me... Jee: She's trying to manipulate you but she doesn't think that at all, she's ready to put up Ali and Nate.... Mich: I'm just saying like i'ts gonna be hard for me but that's all I'm gonna say. I want you to know you should think about it, veto ceremony not until sunday, you need to think about it..... Jee: All of us are now - this is why everyone wants Erika to go b/c (feed pooped out! arrggh)....after first 4 that leave they just go home (feed pooped out again) ROBERT comes in Rob: Let her think that (you're naive) Jee: Let it be that way b/c she will go.....if Erika did win it, I'd put up Dana and she'd go - but....let's go for Dana next week....she's screwed everybody that's why she has no chance Mich: I can't hate you for putting me up b/c it had to happen....Dana knows if the veto is used she'd go out Rob: Remember she came in yesterday Jee: She came in and said wha'ts going on... Mich: This is f'ing unbelievable....she talks to me and is like this and that and tries to be my best friend. I'm not used to peoiple doing that. Rob: She told you to put me or Justin up - Jee: Then she comes back to us and says I trust you guys (they know she's playing everyone) Mich: We thought it would be the safest thing if Dana left.... Rob: The best thing is to - Mich: I know, we'll just stick with the plan, that's fine....okay, but then - we need to get her out next week. It's killing me inside it really is....I will get HoH and put her up.....I'm gonna go out there and be her best friend (and then put her up next week) Rob: It's been happening to me to so don't feel bad Jee: Erika leaves and there's 9 of us...we're all gonna put her up Rob: And there's no question about that...this week, just cool - you'll be alright....we have a good chance, there's a lot of us Jee: Alison really wants.... (Ali walks in) |
Ryn | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 01:29 pm     Cam 4 - Jee, Alison, Robert, Michelle in HoH Nate enters.... jee - "everyone is on this plan.... Jee - lets stick on getting Erica and then everyone goes after Dana next week. Dana enters..... Alison says "he was gonna take her off - but he's not" 2 conversations going on now. (Nathans voice in HoH room - telling the staff that they are keeping them in with all this food) (ed - earlier jee told them they will get a couple of the casseroles from the food contest). Jee says if dave uses the veto 9even to save michelle) he will get a mark on his back. He says he told Dave this. Michelle says she is ok - she is learning, its all part of the game. |
Seamonkey | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 01:31 pm     Robert couldn't stand it, he forced his way in to HOH.. Jee says "everyone" wants Erika out now because they don't want to be sequestered with her. (ed. and Dana??) Jee and Robert now trashing Erika. BB.. this is a lockdown. Telling Michelle to play naive with Dana. Jee says if Erika won POV it would be a sign for Dana to go, but she didn't. Mich brings up Dana again. Jee says he doesn't want to sound selfish.. Mich says he has to be.. Jee starts in on the "I assured" yaddayadda again. Dave says he'll go keep his eyes on Dana.. and leaves. Mich still in talking to Jee and Robert trashing Dana. Michelle seems more nervous with Robert there, just gave a "like"-laden speech about not being used to people like Dana. Mich again says to Robert that she tells Jee to think about getting rid of Dana, so she cannot get HOH, cannot get veto.. Robert says HE thought about it last night, but.. (ed. as if he's HOH).. he gets loud, they shush him.. Robert tells Mich to calm down. They tell Mich to play along with Dana. Jee says Erika leaves, nine of us vs Dana. Robert says no question about that. Mich sighs (ed. I sigh too) Knock.. Ali comes in, says she didn't know.., comes in. Mich now whispering to Ali about Dana about Dana saying girls have to stick together. Robert says we already know it. Plan still to get Erika out. Ali says guys can trust us.. Ali says Dana will ask who is up next, should we lie and say Jack? yeah.. Jee now again saying Dana said she didn't like Nate and would put him up (ed. he omits the Nate and Ali part he told Dave and Michelle) Mich says Dana is taking it all out on David just because David comforted Michelle.. says David can't handle it. Dana says she told Jee Michelle can't handle this.. More Dana-trashing. KNOCK.. Nate!! Jee says everyone is on this plan, stick with gettiing Erika out, and you know everyone is going to go for Dana KNOCK!! Dana.. Nate and Robert leave. Now talking about.. Jee promised tht Erika was going.. And for the umpteenth time.. Jee says he assured.. that.. And it worked out the way it is supposed to. Dana points out that it never goes exactly.. Jee says he made Dave commit to not taking Erika off in front of Michelle. lost feed.. quad, finally back to HOH. Jee says David is outnumbered (this is to Dana).. Mich says she feel a little sick.. Jee repeats that he was in the same or worse situation last week. Mich now supporting Jee that HOH rules, etc (Ali and Dana also there. Dana says unless you are in that position you always feel like everybody's talking.. Dana says it will be more "fun" if we all stick to a rhythm. Jee says he promised to stick with the plan and he stuck with it. |
Kuchi | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 01:31 pm     An addition: earlier in the kitchen, Ali told Michelle "you guys get caserole today" I think the losing team will get the caserole that they got right. (ed - Jee said earlier that the losers will get a couple of the caseroles from the food competition - some spoiled but some are ok - Dana said she would not touch them. Nathan and others plan on taking them apart and eating the pars they like. -ryn) |
Kuchi | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 01:33 pm     Nate Dave talking to Robert about Dana. Dave mentioned Dana winning veto if she gets put up next week and rob said " oh yeah I did not think about that" ROb said he is 100% with dave on putting dana up......dave said justin and robert need to talk to jee as he listens to them. Robert again says he is 100% with dave. |
Seamonkey | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 01:34 pm     Dana talks about how they all want to make it to sequestration, sit on the beach, drink beer, etc.. Dana says she REALLY wants HOH next week. Need a woman in this room. Dana says if Mich gets HOH, she wants to sleep in here.. wants to switch sides, etc. Dana says just the two of them is like having a king size bed, they are small. Dana says she's let all four girls sleep in here or alternate nights. Now trashing Justin.. boring.. I'm leaving HOH and have some stuff to do here. |
Ryn | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 01:35 pm     Dana saying 'next week is sooo crucial, I wanna win it so bad' Jee agrees. (ed - umm - no comment) Dana says next week we need a woman in HoH. Michele said it was awsome that jee got HoH after being nominated. Dana asks michelle if she can sleep in the HoH room with Michelle if she gets it. Michelle turns at her and smiles and says "of course" (5 minutes ago Michelle said she was sick of pretending to be Dana's best friend - lol) Dana says if she gets HoH all the girls can sleep in her room. Jee wonders where he will sleep next week. Dana says they will make room for him because he would not want to sleep over there (desert room). |
Auntie | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 01:37 pm     robert, nathan, and dave have just made a deal in the living room to let dave save michelle, jee will put dana up, erika will have to agree to a deal on it. they have evidentally realized that dana might win hoh or pov next week, and if she does, they are screwed, this way, she is gone, it's a sure thing to get rid of her. robert is going to put it to jee as soon as he can get him away from dana. |
Auntie | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 01:39 pm     it occurs to me i may not have totally understood the convo, did anyone else hear it? |
Ryn | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 01:40 pm     Cam 1/2 - kitchen, food prep Cam 3/4 - HoH room - jee, dana, Michelle hoh room empties - looks like a social time now. Card playing in the LR and Food prep in the Kitchen. (done for now) |
Auntie | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 01:43 pm     justin just leaned into dana at sink, but i couldn't hear if he said anything to her. jee locked himself out of hoh. |
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