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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Big Brother IV - July 2003 Live Feed Archives: July 12, 2003 - Day 8 - Scott gets kicked out.: Archive through July 12, 2003

Jdctexas

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 09:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cams 1 & 2: Amanda, Jee and Michelle

(Convo in a nutshell...)

Jee: I know he's not a bad guy, but he needs to chill out. You can't let him control you.

Amanda: I know.

Jee: I just hope BB can help him out after this and give him a peace a mind. I know he's stong willed.

Michelle: Yeah.

Amanda: He's a good man, grew up in a rocky family, but he handles stress wrong. If you're not happy, you change things

Jee. People need a wake up call. I hope he get a wake up and uses it in a positive way. I just don't want you (Amanda) to take this wrong, it's not your fault.

All three get up and move around the house.

-Posting 9:33 BBT-

Aremid

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 09:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee - I guess he feels really uncomfortable in this house, after what happened with Jun and everything...I don't feel threatened....but his actions speak louder than words
He is talking to Amanda
Jee - I'm actually worried for him now...if he stays I hope they get a psychiatrist or psychologist speak to him...let him know everything will be alright...he doesn't seem very stable right now
Amanda - I wish him all the best, but he is very mature...grew up wealthy family, father paying cable bill...job, he stayed home complaining about it...you go out and get you one or you don't...if you're not happy change it...things like that....everything handed to him, and when they are not, he freaks
Jee...this is really weird, what just happened, but you know you shouldn't take things to hard...I know you're letting it affect you...you've done nothing wrong...at all....so much good heartedness inside you...don't blame yourself for anything ....I'm confused
Amanda - I'm gonna go and smoke thank you for talking to me
Michelle who was with Jee and Amanda goes into the bathroom and says hi to Nathan and Ali
Justin is also in there and Robert?

Camera moves to the Hammock where Dana, Jun, and David?
Erica - he is going are you going to turn on Me too
Dana - that was really weird, we're sitting around and all of a sudden there is drama
Dana - when they called him in the room and he didn't go...like come and get me sh--
Jun - he f------- signed up for this sh--
he thinks they need him more than he needs them
Jun -....this whole game....he thinks he is so strategic
Dana - it is not a strategy
Jun - I'm just afraid on tv when he sees everything I've said about him he is going to come after me...need a f------ bodyguard

Jun - are you a trustfund baby? ( to David)
Jun - all my white friends are trust fund babies waiting for their grandmother's to croak or something
Dana - do you know how much it costs to live in Manhattan

Jee - ...game don't let it all get to you...thin line of reality...game...it kinda bothered me like Erica...she is coming out here like she is ?? right now
Amanda - she is different like Rob said...a little crazy
Amanda - I think she can cry at the drop of a dime ( not sure who she is referring to)
( I can't understand everything Jee says, lying on microphone, head on table )
Amanda - thank you Jee
Jee - we're in the same shoes
Jee - don't let it get to you anymore
Amanda - thank you Jee
Jee - you're welcome Amanda, I got to check on my laun der ry

Jdctexas

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 09:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cams 1 & 2: David Jun and Dana Outside.

Discussing David's joking after the incident. David tried to break the tension in the house earlier with a joke and someone didn't like it. David discusses how he handles stress and they all agree that people handle it differently.

Now discussing that Scott should have gone to the DR when he was told.

Jun: This is just a game

Dana: What he doesn't realize is that he needs the game more than the game needs him.

Jun: He could be bussing tables again before he knows it.

<Note: No signs of Scott on any of the cams>.

Jun asks David if he is a "trust fund baby". He says no. Jun admits that some of her exs where trust fund babies waiting for their grandmother to die. Dana says she knew a few and they wore Rolexes.

Feeds 1 & 2 go to Jee and Amanda.

Jee: Just don't be hard on yourself <puts out cigarettes>.

Jee asks her not to smoke another cigarettes tonight, even though he smoked on of hers.

Now discussing Erika and her reaction. Both agree she's a drama queen.

Jee: If you need to talk to anyone, let me know.

Amanda: You've been amazing.

Jee going to put laundry on to dry.

Amanda sets at the outside table with her hands clasped.

-Posting 9:45 BBT-

Jdctexas

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 09:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 1: Chessboard: Scott opens his wallet while walking up to Erika and Jack. 5 seconds of FOTH. All feeds in the Bathroom now.

Cam 3: Jun, Dana, Nate, Michelle, Justin and Richard.

Discussing POV...and Fothed.

Quad cams

FOTH.

-Posting 9:51 BBT-

Justin42

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 09:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just heard Nate saying something about "no, no, they want us all together, we'll all sit there together."

Feeds are quite conspicuously showing NO ONE and audio is just some house mike somewhere that isn't picking up much..

[right as I said that, they all convene in the living room; Scott starts apologizing]

Jdctexas

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 10:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Quad cam: Bathroom group again (Richard, Dana, Justin, Nate and Michelle).
Jack walks in. Scott is asking to meet with everyone to discuss the incident.

Jack: I'm not here to defend him, but he wants to talk to everyone. Just wants to be heard out. I'm disappointed in him.

Dana: We should hear him...not cuss him.

- All 4 cams now showing empty LT, Blue Bedroom and Bathroom -

9:57 BBT

All meet in the Living Room.

Scott: I want to applogize to everyone here. I was not throwing it at anyone. I've been carrying this for over a year and a half.

Scott admits to having HPV. Admits that he is struggling with the break up with Amanda. Says it is hard to see Amanda here. He's isolated himself and admits he doesn't know how to handle his feelings. Appologizes to everyone. Would like to stay on and play the game. "I'm just really sorry".

Nate: I thank you for coming and appolgizing. Some people feel that this is the worst environment for you. Some feel threatened.

Now discussing the incident. Jun challenges him about what if the chair hit someone. A group argument nearly breaks out. Nate takes control.

Justin: It's just a little hard for some to take the appolgize because your've had outbusts and appologized for it.

Jun: I'd like to leave tonight here tonight.

David: I agree. I'm here to have fun.

Meeting busts up.

All cams FOTH.

-Posting 10:04 BBT-

Aim499

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 10:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Scott gathered everyone together to talk about the incident. Explained his feelings for Amanda have been upsetting him because he did not move on with his life after the breakup. He's isolated himself. Nate tells him he feels this is a bad environment for Scott. Scott says that everyone has outbursts, and most people in the house have had some too. Jun doesn't like that, and says "we aren't talking about those incidents, we are talking about tonight." Jun does not look happy with Scott. Scott said Jun was mocking him...there is a lot of tension. Meeting is over. Michelle, Erika, and a few others still sitting on the couch thinking. FOTH

Starseed

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 10:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
FEED 4

Jack, Nathan, Michelle, David, Erika, and Justin are on the couch.

David is talking about how Scott is a "decent-sized" guy and someone like him "going off" would be dangerous around others. David mentions that he has seen the "extreme" of aggressive behavior, and he understands why people are reacting negatively to Scott. He remarks that this will "make great TV."

Michelle feels bad for Scott.

Nathan: You've got to have self-control; in here and in life in general.

Amanda comes in and David leaves.

Jack: Scott has some deep issues he has to deal with, and this environment makes it worse.

Alison approaches (off-camera, but it is acknowledged as being her) crying like crazy; Michelle/Jack get up to comfort her. Justin says she is just "very emotional." Robert comes in, talks about how Alison just started thinking out loud and then "just freaked out."

Aim499

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 10:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana says she wants to use the veto to put up Scott, but she's worried about how he will take it. Sounds like she is in fear for her safety. She is talking to Robert. Talk about an alliance of 4 (don't know who is in that) Dana says she can't believe that BB hasn't done anything about Scott's behavior yet. She says she has a 15 year old cousin who acts more mature than him.

General chit chat about alcohol, and all of this drama making great tv.

Starseed

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 10:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Erika doesn't think they will air what is going on with Scott, but says the "Internet people" are going crazy. Then she thinks they will cut the feed.

Now Michelle is crying.

Jack says that Amanda has "such class, generosity, and grace" and he thinks she is terrific. Nathan agrees.

Robert: "Whoa, Michelle's freaking out."

Tensai

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 10:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Alison is extremely upset, it seems that she's very concerned about Scott's revelation. She went into the bathroom with one of the other girls and I believe got sick.

It's hard to tell for sure, but it seems she's worried that she's going to catch the disease from Scott and signed away her rights. Dana keeps on telling her that she can't sign away her rights.

The others are talking in the living room, and Alison is cleaning up the bathroom. Amanda comes in and tries to explain that she can't catch it from a toilet seat, and that she was tested and is okay. (Note: I think the bathroom cleaning was from her being sick, not trying to sterilize the toilet).

After her and Amanda leave. Obviously the others aren't as concerned, as everyone lines up for the bathroom (note: they left the mic in the bathroom on. So I'm going to find another feed)

Starseed

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 10:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana enters: "Your girl [Michelle] is freaking out all over the place right now. This is not some shit I signed up for." (to Nathan)

Erika lays her head in Dana's lap. Michelle comes in crying, Erika sits up and Michelle lays her head in Dana's lap.

Nathan enters: "You okay?" (to Michelle) [inaudible answer]

Everyone gets up and leaves except for Erika.

Scott enters and feed abruptly cuts to the desert room, which is empty. All four feeds now showing empty rooms, no houseguests.

Scott is called to the DR.

Tensai

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 10:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
All the feeds are off the HG's (three on the bathroom).

Just to clarify above, I'm pretty sure that the bathroom incident was with Alison and not Michelle (going from the accent).

BB: "Scott, Can You Come To Diary Room".

No audible houseguests

Seamonkey

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 10:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
To summarize, what some of them are freaking out about is the idea of the genital warts .. thinking of the hottub, pool, toilet use.. Ali and then Michelle very emotional. Michelle keeps talking about the fact that they signed away all their rights.

Some of the guys are trying to act like it is "amusing" and because they are guys these things don't bother them (threats of future blowups) Nate stated that "the girls" are more likely to feel threatened by Scott's outbursts.

At some point they did tell Scott that they didn't think this was a good environment for him.

Interestingly the people Scott went to first so they could intervene with the rest and set up the group meeting were the other members of their secret 4 suballiance within the 8 non-exes.. Jack, Erika, Scott and.. Dave, I think. (ED. so it could appear that the others in the secret alliance were worried more about losing Scott's vote than about Scott?)

After more talk, Jack seemed to be saying maybe this isn't a good place for him.

I lost feeds at several crucial points. and now all four feeds are on empty rooms, three in the bathroom area, one in the desert/turtle room..

I know they got John to talk to Scott.

Also lots of remarks about Michelle being "only 19" and not understanding STDs although the older ones aren't showing a massive amount of knowledge either.

The four feeds unchanged, yet can hear faint voices from elsewhere.

Posting and probably out.

Sbeachy

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 10:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
(ok, can't believe I'm gonna post this, but, on quad, and no hg's to report about!)

Jack went potty, on mic, washed hands.
Nathan went potty, on mic, washed hands.
And, I beleive it was Robert, went potty, on mic, DIDN'T wash hands!

Jdctexas

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 10:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
All 4 feeds on empty rooms since 10:36 BBT. Will come back once I hear something.

Justin42

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 10:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ali and Dana walk into the bathroom, Dana stands guard outside the door. Ali says she's sitting on the edge of the toilet, even if she did just scrub it...

we hear too much.. then FINALLY someone in the control room notices and turns off the mic in the bathroom.

Still not much happening on-camera.

Starseed

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 10:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Alison and Dana enter bathroom area, Alison goes potty, Dana "guards" the door. Alison leaves, washes hands while Dana goes potty.

Dana: I'm so skeeved! They [CBS] do not want to be associated with this [genital warts].

Alison and Dana leave bathroom area.

Again, all four feeds on empty rooms, no HGs, no audio.

Justin42

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 10:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ali comes out and does an emergency lipstick application with pretty intense ferocity. Dana telling Ali there is NO WAY they want to be associated with this (they=CBS) and there is NO WAY they will show this on TV. Ali says "nice f---cking reality show, we could've just double dated or something..."

[ed: from reading another thread, she probably actually said "I could've just gone on a dating show"... which changed the meaning a lot! ;)]

They walk out of the bathroom, never to be seen again (on another camera).

Jdctexas

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 10:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana and Alison in Bathroom. Alison goes in to the toliet room. Looks like Dana is gaurding the door. She come out, washes hads and Dana goes in.

Alison washes her hands, looks upset. Dana comes out.

A: What a nice ****ing reality show were on.

D: I know.

They bash the show a bit, leave bathroom

10:49 BBT

Now back to the empty rooms on all 4 cams.

Watching2

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 10:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
While switching cams saw Allie & another female houseguest (black shorts) in the Bathroom. One said they doubted the show wanted to be associated with "this" (Scott's disease) and it won't make it on TV. They left the BR and now no sign of anyone. No sound.

Quad cam: Showing empty rooms. No sign of houseguests. Still no sound.

Tensai

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 10:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana and Alison come into the bathroom.

Alison uses it first - "I won't sit even though I scrubbed it". Then Dana uses it and makes a comment about what will people think, Ali responds "what about my boyfriend".

Dana says that CBS does not want to be known as a network with diseased people on it. Ali comments that she could have be on 'double date' or some other reality show. Dana insinuates that they will not want to show this (I believe she thinks this will be edited).

They walk off, the camera stays with the bathroom.

(note: I am nearly 100% positive that I heard Ali get sick earlier, she was definitely gagging. Also, there was about a five minute gap between that incident - crying in the bathroom - and scrubbing the toilet)

Seamonkey

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 10:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As Dana and Ali walked out, Dana is trying to convince Ali that "they" will never show this (tv? feeds?). Ali seems concerned that people will see her freaking out.

Back to same four unpopulated feeds.

(ed. (googled) HPV seems to require sexual contact when the person is actually broken out in genital warts.. however one can then get the virus and may develop warts orally or on hands/skin (from contact with the affected person's fluids )and of course HPV is highly correlated with cervical cancer, so is no light matter.. it seems highly unlikely that anyone has been put at risk, but...)