Archive through August 21, 2003
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August 21, 2003 - Day 48 - The 'Twist' - JEack/Erika nominated.:
Archive through August 21, 2003
Ryn | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 06:24 pm     Jee says he feels he is the target. Jun saying that getting out Alison would be the better move. Jee says this could be the move that makes him or breaks him (taking whatever offer it was that forced the group to eat PB & J) Jun says she was shocked but is over it now. Jee says he is going to feel guilty. Jun says its hard for the others to seperate the person that he is vs the game side of it. Jee again says he thought Jack and Erika would take the "deal" Jun says she said somethign like by not taking it she was taking the chance she could be out of the house. (ed - I am sooo clueless) |
Seamonkey | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 06:35 pm     Jee was almost in tears, Jun looked really upset asked to talk to Jee.. Jee started ranting about her being too confrontational. Jun tells him to calm down she was just being straight with him, others talking about him behind his back. Jee says he took it the wrong way but it was because you confronted me in front of Ali.. (ed. sounds like Ali told Jee that Jun said something she did not say..) Jun says if the b!tch wants to make trouble, nothing I can say.. Jee starts on his, I'm going to suffer, not about hurting, thought two people in the house would take the offer.. Jun is telling him her first move was to defend him, others thought he wanted to hurt people and she wanted to find out.. Jee says now he can see why.. Jun says she actually wanted to say it in front of the others so they could understand it was game play. Jun says yes she does understand what he was doing. Jun says you had to make that decision and can't go back on it. Jun says Erika wouldn't have done it because her game is the wonderful compassionate one.. And Jack wouldn't do it to Erika.. Says they reminded him over and over that he is HOH and can have total control this way. (Ali said that to her they said she could be safe and reminded her of things she had done that would put a target on her). Jee is going back to the beginning that he came in with a target on him and he should feel sorry for them now?? Jee was taken by surprise.. was expecting something different than this. Made a spontaneous decision.. Jun says for purposes of getting who you want out, you did a good job. For protection for next week, not so good. Jee does feel he IS the target for next week, no matter what.. (ed. probably right, but this could be their excuse). Jun says y ou aren't getting out the biggest competitor.. getting Erika out.. Ali will likely win HOH next week.. Jee says no, after Justin it is Ali and Jee as threats.. Jun says she would put up Jack and Robert next week if she was HOH. Jee is talking fast, about being the target, wanting to get to final two. Jun says Ali wants Robert and Jack out. Jee says this could be the decision that.. makes me or breaks me. Jun says she is sorry for .. Jee says just the way he took it.. maybe if you spoke to me personally, felt called out.. Jee admits he is feeling guilty now. Jun says she KNOWS Jee isn't doing it to hurt anybody. Jee says everyone says it is a game, and we should suddenly have a heart?? Jun says she said no to it.. not worth it to make everyone suffer.. but you can look at it with different perspectives.. you can get who you want out of the house, out of the house. Jee says not playing the game to please people.. Jun says you were.. Justin and Robert.. Jee says they have never lied to him. Jun says honestly they made some deals without you, just like they did to me. Jun says Robert leaving the cage, I know you forgive it, you have a bond. Jee says lots of words.. just a decision I had to make. (they all plan to eat very well tonight) Jun says just be careful next week.. Be careful of Alison. Jee says if Jack gets it..blah blah Jun says.. all the others want Robert out, not Jee. Jee is most afraid of Erika.. Robert comes in asks for some junk food.. Jee says it is f-ing PB&J, just eat it and shut up your face. Jun says try to understand it was the initial shock .. And at first people thought it might be two weeks.. Jee declined a month and two weeks... he has a F-ing !! Jun says ok, leaves, but first asks if Jee is alright. Ali immediately comes in .. Jee says he'll take his basket of goodies out to share. Ali says AWWWW you are so sweet. Now she is looking at the picture of My Girl while Jee is out of HOH. Jee returns. Ali.. Um.. I'm ok, not mad at all, actually I'm pretty happy, impressed, Justin would have done it (ed. hmmmm) Jee AGAIN says thought someone would do it. Now starts badmouthing Jun and Ali eagerly joins in trashing Jun. (ed. going to post and see if others are posting, I can't do this too much longer ) Ali promises she won't put Jee up. Jee says he wants people to know.. Ali parrots know what she is doing. Ali TOTALLY agrees.. says so you going to keep everything the same (ed.. hoping he'll turn on Jun?) Ali says she is willing to sacrifice that easily for our team.. Jee startas AGAIN.. Ali says she isn't mad, Robert isn't mad. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 06:40 pm     Ali asks Jee with big eyes who she should put up next week, does he want Jack and Jun??? And just as he started to answer, ERIKA burst in! So the endless round of justification began again. Ali left.. Erika was still there.. FOTH (going to leave.. it took 20 tries to post that one post with all the filelocking and timeouts and site not responding..) |
Ryn | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 06:51 pm     Summary.... Alison came in and told Jee she was not mad at him, they talked a bit..... Robert dashed in and out and grabbed some of Jee's food - they seem to have decided to be on an eating binge until they lose the food. Erika came in the HoH room and talked to Jee too - Jee explained himself and she basically explained to him why he should have known she would not take it (because she had such a rough time with the other time she was on PB & J). They were each in their own room - when the deal was made - and Julie was the one making the offers. I am guessing they had a way to signal if they accepted the deal - and Julie started at a month and worked her way down - at the end she said someone accepted but they didn't know the amount until later - so they were all worried. Robert and Jun and Alison talking outside - Robert says that the people he thought would take it didn't and the people he thought wouldn't did take it. They still talk like Erica's eviction is not locked up..... I'm not sure - I base this on robert's comment to Jun & Ali that "someobody that leaves next week will regret not taking it" but he never said who - even though both Jun and Ali know he wants Erika out (or maybe he is just being careful). Jun goes in and Ali says she was talking to Jee about nominations when Erica walked in and that Erica wouldn't leave - so Ali left. Robert re-affirms to Ali that they are still tight - robert says yes - and confirms it will be Erika and Jack and Erika will be the one going. (posting and breaking) |
Seamonkey | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 06:53 pm     Jun said to Robert, he agrees, that it was a surprise who did take it or who didn't.. Jun thought Jee wouldn't do it. Robert says he didn't want everyone pissed at him.. Jun says same here. Jun says she would have thought Erika or Jack might take it, she'd have been pissed but would understand. Robert says at the end of the week, someone will be walking out, regretting not taking it and it won't be Jee! Ali and Jun agree. Jun says she told them it is a game, but I don't want to see people suffer for a week, if I go up and leave, ok. Ali says she said no .. asked did you see Robert on PB&J?? I guess Erika said she feels like Marcellas Jun says at least America thinks I'm a b!tch, but not enough of a b-- to put everyone on PB&J. Ali says me too. Jun leaves.. Ali says Erika and Jack still will be up but then says IN THE MIDDLE OF TALKING ERIKA CAME IN AND WOULDN'T LEAVE!! She waited until Ali left.. Ali laughing. Ali started to say what about next week, but said, guess we should wait. Robert is sure that "we" will get HOH next week. Robert is all wound up.. saying he and Ali have all the votes that anyone ever needs.. etc etc. Ali says she isn't afraid of Jack and Erika.. then says and less afraid of Jun. Robert says Jun was mad that Ali went in HOH (ed. didn't hear that) Ali says several times she HATES THAT GIRL.. now throwing around the F word liberally, etc. ed. I'm really out.. all four feeds on Robert and Ali |
Bbspyqueen | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 06:54 pm     Robert and ALi in the BY planning Jun's demise should Robert stay. Ali "I hate that girl." Rob: So you think that was the twist? ALI: F-yeah! Ali: "Jee is the veto voter." Ali and Rob discuss they would not have made the HGs eat PB&J, like Jee did. Ali:"Give us some milk..." Big Yawns all around by them. Now Rob and Ali discussing what the jury is allowed to watch right now. |
Bbspyqueen | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 07:09 pm     Ali and Rob discussing her brother's ATTY. practice/office/building....<YAWN>. Is Robert playing up to her?? He's NEVER this interested in Ali. Discussing w/Jack the nail job JUN did to Jack. <laughing...inaudible chit chat> Someone calld to the BY by BB crew person... CAm showing NOM keys and HG pix now. BB definitely getting ready for something. |
Bbspyqueen | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 07:13 pm     HGs chilling on the porch. Someone...BB crew?...messing with the NOM wall and keys. |
Bbspyqueen | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 07:18 pm     NOMs, I suppose...FOTH. Hurry up, HGS. |
Mlans | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 07:25 pm     The BB crewperson diligently arranging the keys before we had FOTH
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Ryn | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 07:46 pm     Still FOTH |
Ryn | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:04 pm     FOTH..and the light is off so its dark. |
Ryn | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:08 pm     Back from FOTH... Erika smiling at the counter. JAck pulling up the shades... |
Ryn | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:11 pm     Robert talking to Jee - telling him he did a good job - didn't have to over explain himself. Robert says not to tell Jun how they are voting. Tells Ali as well - he doesn't trust her. She will stir things up he says. Jee says she will make things up. He says she will go from person to person. Its pretty obvious Jack and Erika are up and since only Jun, Robert and Alison can vote that if Robert and Alison vote for Erika she is gone. |
Aremid | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:22 pm     They are back, camera on Jun in bedroom - then in kitchen where most HGS are some of them leave Jun, Ja, E in kitchen Jun - awww she is out there thanking them- how sweet Ja - well Ali comes in the kitchen She asks if she and E can raid is refrigerator, he tells them to go ahead, Ali sings - FOTH General talk about Jee's beer, he says Ja can have some too, but Ja is going to work out, and then have some wine or beer Jun - says something about revenge, and then I hate inconsistent behavior E - I was very surprised I was....week Jun makes lots of noise in the kitchen Ali wants to know if they want to get in the hottub E - I don't know E or Jun one says they are PMSing Ali is reading some kind of rules for a game E says they don't have balloons Ali says they can use condoms - improvise They talk about the game then one of the girls says - that is so funny Justin took a handful switching cameras On Camera 4, the guys are exercising Rob lifting Weights - Jee spotting Jack watching Ja begins to do push ups ( I have not heard who was officially nominated- the only comment I heard was what Jun said about revenge) |
Jag2000 | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:29 pm     Jack and Erika were nominated and Jack said to Jee that he understands that he did what he had to do. Allie and Robert are not going to tell Jun that they are voting Erika out. They'll tell her to vote for who ever she wants. |
Huckyboo | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 09:05 pm     ali and erika talking in the hot tub. missed part of the convo. erika is assuming that jack is going. her goal is for the girls to be in the final 3. she keeps reminding ali that ali and jun have the votes and that it will be very hard to beat jee in the end. plane keeps flying overhead |
Ryn | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 09:05 pm     Cam 1/2 - I just turned it on - heard Erika saying to Alison "Just remember you and Jun have the votes" - Ali says she knows. Cam 3/4 everyone else inside - looks like they are snacking and talking.
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Seamonkey | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 09:08 pm     (ed. Jee told Jun the night he got HOH that he wanted Erika out) And I think it was Erika who said she hated people who were inconsistent. Last I looked Ali and Erika were in the hottub drinking and just ripping Dana to shreds, mocking her eyes and how slowly she played corydor and how the guys dreaded being in sequestration with Dana. Guys were working out. Now guys are inside. Jun is cooking. Erika is now telling Ali not to trust the Jee-Jack. Ali is telling Erika that "anyone with common sense" would know how close Ali is to Erika. But then says Jee has the veto so he can still put Ali up. Erika says she is sure it is to "get back" for Justin being booted. Ali says she's thinking Jee should leave before Robert. Ali says Jee was so meek n mild at the beginning and now look at the F-er.. just tearing thru the house. Erika really wants Robert to go before her (is Ali telling Erika she is staying?) Ali says "it will be me and two couples".. (ed hard to understand, logically what Ali means and the jets are so LOUD tonight) Erika says Jack was going to talk to Jee after nominations.. said sarcastically, but says maybe jack will tell her. Erika says she doesn't want another week like Nate and DAve? Just want to know. (ed BB clearly has a mic up at 12000ft to get the jet noise) Jee is inside looking proud as a peacock, talking to Robert Ali asks if you feel tired on PB&J.. Erika says oh yes, tired, like sh!t, cranky. Ali wants some fricken questions for HOH and starts showing off her photographic memory and I click on another feed Checking on Jack n Jun in the kitchen, while the Jeester and the Robster sit at the table . The feed gives me a closeup of Jee instead. |
Wisgal | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 09:46 pm     Jack talking to Erica in HT..(she in-him outside). She says she'd prefer to know who's going,rather than it be like Dave's week. Jack says he asked,but,got no answer. Erica says they are just sick of our alliance. If we were on oppisite sides of the house,we could have gotten away with it. Jack: we wouldn't be as close,tho. Jack:that damn ball just alittle more power. Talk about how Jee is unbeatable. Took us 6 weeks to get rid of Justin. Now this veto..veto proof. Talking about how Jee didn't think through the Veto Challenge today. Yes...for those who don't know it was today before,nominations.Jee took and offer from BB to get Veto...the whole house is on PB&J for a week.They were all offered the same deal.Everyone else refused,NOT happy with Jee. Robert just came out to call them in to dinner. He's telling Erica this game is hard,people out here don't understand.It's not easy. posting... |
Seamonkey | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 09:56 pm     Another little hot tub tidbit from earlier.. Erika and Ali were discussing Julie Chen, how she asked the questions during the challenge today and supposedly what they answered and they kind of mock Julie but then both say Julie is "slammin'" and that she's really really thin, a lollypop, then Ali asks Erika if Julie has to work out to be thin and Erika says Nah.. she's ASIAN and they.... (ed.. so living with an Asian who illustrates that not all Asians are just thin with no workout has passed right over some heads in the BB house) |
Morning_Magic | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 10:11 pm     The houseguests eat.
From 1:00 clockwise: Jack, Robert, Jee, Jun, Alison, Erika. |
Morning_Magic | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 10:16 pm     Erika and Jack talking at the kitchen table, Jun clearing the table, some of the others working in the kitchen. |
Morning_Magic | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 10:22 pm     Jee is washing the dishes. All mics are on, so can't make out conversations. Ali is sitting on the floor leaning against a wall. Jack thanks Jee for doing the dishes. Jun is now sitting next to Ali talking with her. Jee asks Jun where things go and Jun explains. Feeds doubled on Jun and Ali. Ali says she's just missing her boyfriend. Jun says he's a nice looking dude, he has nice calves. BB calls Jee to the diary room. Ali surmises its about the veto. After he leaves, Ali and Jun whispering to each other. |
Morning_Magic | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 10:29 pm     Ali says she's already known as America's b*tch. Robert clarifies and says she's America's favorite b*tch. Ali tells Jun she might go into the hottub after she works out. They head out to the hammock and continue talking strategy. They're deciding if they should vote Jack out. Ali wonders if Jack's throwing competitions. Ali explains pros and cons of voting Erika or Jack out, says it's going to be a hard decision. Ali trusts Erika more. Jun says she's closer to Jack than Erika. |
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