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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Big Brother IV - July 2003 Live Feed Archives: July 24, 2003 - Day 20 - Dana nominates Alison & Jack: Archive through July 24, 2003

Whit4you

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 01:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Nate - I won't be mad if you put me up.


Dana - as opposed to going to me you went to them

Nat - I wasn't telling you how to vote, but I said it'd be in your best interst to keep Erika in the house. I didn't say who's side are you on. I let you make the choice.

(ed: Dana is being very frank with these guys)

Girl - I think June can contest that we all didn't know where you were - as far as the numbers go - with or without you the numbers Erika would have stayed in the house.

Nate - we want'ed you to know you were still with us

Dana - June I want to talk to you.

Jun - I'm scared (laughing)

June = I went in there - cause they were talking racist shi* I told them she's not as comfortable - all I said is she's not as comforable as she was before talkign to ??? and allison - it's the absolute truth. You can't trust what they said...

Dana - we have to stay together, they are going to tear us apart

Jun - .... at the same time

Dana - I really want to call them out - it's just going to create an uncofmortable vibe.. I haven't spoken to this girl this week, they are talking to me like I"m an F'n idiot.

June - see they didn't know that all this time...

Dana - well who would you trust more - think about it. Justin and them they have no reason to try to
get me ....

(something big is going on outside.. Jun / dana laughign)
Dana - It's not like he started it tonight - he's been telling me stuff all week

ALlison is out there screaming at someone -

Allison No I wasn't - I probably stepped foot in that HOH room twice last week... you can't even say otehrwise. So don't make it out like I was all in that shi* when I stepped foot in there twice last week. (ed: She's SCREAMING and now Justin is screaming)

Allison - I never lied

Justin - Oh you never have???

Allison - I'm not a liar..

Justin - this is a game

Allison - well don't be pulling me out of my characther

Justin - I'm already out of here, you're fine.

Allison - this is about you trying to make me out to be something I"m not - for the rest of your time here don't speak to me.

Dave? - Do you need a rake in here? Just thought I'd ask ....

Dave - need a rake???

(ed: Allsion / Justin really going at it I could only capture a bit of it though)

Dana and Jun listening from the HOH room laughing.

(allison leaves)

Jee - I can understand she could be upset , but it's a game, it is a game... it's a game. I think you handled it well. Let it drop.

Justin - I can't make any progress, I'm on my way out of here it's obvious.

Jun walks in - What the f' is going on??



Dana - I have to leave this door open you never know what your going to miss. (she props door open)

Dana - how did it start

Justin - she came out - she said I can pull your card anytime I want to. She said she's never been after me and that's a blatant lie. Then she's like - she said ????? She goes...??? She said you never f'n hate her, you said you hate her guts.

Jun - oh god every week it gets crazier

Dana - if I iddn't win HOH this week I'd be in serious trouble

Justin - it's the truth too don't doubt it for a 2nd.

?? Jee's never going to get over not getting rid of her.

Justin - every camera is glued to me it's driving me nuts.

(doors slamming elsewhere in the house)

Cam shows ALlison in a room holding a stuffed animal.

(ed - appending this per whit's request -ryn)




Dana in HOH room talking to ?? (justin I think) June is there.
dana - I said you guys have been doing stuff behind my back all week, they have been talking to me all week - why would they do that they don't know I have an alliance with you.

Justin - Erika honestly I have nothing against you. The only person I couldn't pull apart is Erika, she's the only one who hasn't lied to me. And I"m not going to say shit, I can say anything I want cause I"m out of here - I haven't lied since I've been in this house and I"m not going to start now. I trust you (to Erika) I have no reason not to.

(FOTH for no apparent reason...grrr)

Justin - nobody's going to say another word to me watch. Cause I could blow up at any of them. That's the only reason why you said something (to Erika)

Nate - I can't believe she's acting this way (Dana)
Allison - I hate her (Dana)


Erika - Just go with the story

Allison - she's making out with my x boyfriend in front of my face, that's totally disrespectful, I'd never do that to anybody. It's such a respect factor. It's disgusting. She's 5'3 and I"m ready to lay her a** out, when I walk out that door I will deck her on the way out.

Nate - we were tlaking and we'd pay to see you guys fight, my money is on Allie. You're definately stronger than she is. I'm not going to kiss her a** though.

Erika - you can't - and if she puts any of us up she's gone the next week, she's not stupid - she's just miking this for all it's worth

Nate - ya she'll put R and J up and if one of them get the veto

Justareader

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 01:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
robert, nate, just, jack in kitchen talking about good sleep ,

now Justin and Jee in HOH
jee telling justin how nate is lying to dana
just - she is not listening, she is cool, i think we will be ok.

he is messing with something - eating some nuts or some thing.

cams move to kitchen dave, rob, jack talking about some dance street hustler...?? came in late.
Rob now talking about 3 mexicans starting to beg on the street and they invested and are millionairs now....
and talking about beggers...
cam changed to couches Jee and justin -"she is aware" she was so close to calling a house meeting and calling all of them out.
Jee - that would have been crazy...Jack wants to talk to her. card shuffling
silenc between them can hear rob in background.
Jee- rob is good hearted dude
Just - we are the only 3 good people in this house
Rob - jus wanna play marbles?
marble talk...
3/4 dana and jun in HOH

ali - just - if you are gonna call others out you better own up to your wrongs..
just - y did you say you hate her -
ali - y did you say it too
jus - its obvious that i don't hate her
ali - you are being foolish
just - y are kissing ass, every one is being called out...
ali - don't be making me out to sucking up to HOH.
you wanna call people out - you are BSing - I did not lie to you
Just - this is a game I am already out the door..
ali - don't talk to me anymore in this house
(she seems to have won the argument even though justin is gloating)
RJJ is "call them out" call them all out - Jee-why did she have to come after you? you handled it well...
jun came in and said we all are guilty of something....This is crazy! good ratings....
Jee3 talking about the balls ali has for saying stuff ...
feeds are being crazy...

Lostintheglades

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 01:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Alison, Dana and Erika in Dessert room.

Erika says Justin is upset because he was shocked that things did not go his way.

Alison said...well, that wasn't just for me that was for everybody. Dana leaves. Alison says and now he accuses me of kissing Dana's ass now. I've been sleeping with Dana.

A - F him and his little midget ass pony he rode in on. David jokeing about ...now how does that work.

Justin comes in to get a shirt. David says - this is awsome...first it was Scott and Amanda, then me and Michelle...Jun and Jee are next...talking about the X's fighting.

Alson now in kitchen with Nate - Nate is washing dishes...

Nate says..don't worry about it.

Justin says...this is rediculous guys to David, Robert, Nate, Jack...I'm not campaigning against anyone...David says so tell me about how you're coming afer me.

They all laugh. Alison comes in for a bit then leaves..Now all card talk.

Justareader

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 01:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
(welcome lost!! hope you had a nice nap!!! and you to Whit)

feed one sound on quad cam:
Justin dana and jun in HOH -
just - i could pull anyone's card, except jun and now noone will talk to me.
rehashing argument with just and ali....

jun - every week it gets crazier!! jee is never gettin over not getting a note
Dan- I am so glad I got a note and a pic for my note.
Jun where's the food? I am always stuffing my face...MFn people..
Erika - I am waiting to hear what else comes out ...
Jun - lets to to LR - its stressing me in here.
dan - too many dooods in this house...
Eric - clothes all around
joking around and teasing Justin about leaving his laundry around.

Lostintheglades

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 01:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Justareader...ahhhh coffee

What feed are you covering?

Justareader

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 02:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
HOH room erik dan ali jun
dan - i missed the whole fight -
Why arguing with him?
discussing the fight with just and ali....
rehashing giving ali's side of the story...
Erika - can we just nominate all the guys.. he is frustrated
ali - he did not have to take it out on me
just rehashing argument...
Dan - giving threats about after seeing the tapes,etc

Jun - we have got to sleep he have a comp itn 6 hours
Dan - we are not sleeping, you (to jun) are staying in here with me
Jun - i am scard...
eating sunflower seeds (i think) and chit chatting...
Dana - I am gonna quit, can I quit HOH - i am gonna nom 9 people
Ali - you all go home I win...
discussing nom ceremony and POV
Dana said " you can not use POV unless the HOH wants you to"

dana - everyone out I am talking to every one tonight...
robert gets called in.
Dan - what do you hav for me, give me the truth, swear on your daughter
Rob- what do you mean? what do you wanna know. I don't know - I don;t care if you put me up.
Dan - so be honest
Rob - I know everyone wanted you out, that is it. I did not hear if from every one...
Dan - i take your word for it
Rob - bashing ali, being scummy about the game and everything. I havent heard it from jack, really... They were all for taking you out. I don't care what they think...Jee and Just will tell you same thing.
Jun - they are claiming they were baiting us...(see above)
dancing around the original 8 issue.
Rob - telling on ali saying that she would be getting dana out...(Raunchy language throughout)
I don't care.... on and on..
Dana - I wanna, for real, know if they wanted me out.
Rob - giving examples for his case (same thing as reported before)
where is everyone - jack justin jee in LR - try to get in good with boys.
where's dave? outside with ericka....
talkign about ali and justins relationship...
Rob doesn't want jack dave nate or ali to win..
Dana - explaining her plan (same as told to justing) game must split now....

Justareader

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 02:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
lost - feeds 1/2 HOH I only leave quad on and sound stays on 1/2....

Lostintheglades

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 02:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Feed 4 -

Jack - remember last week we were in there?
now Jee is laughing about what happened and you just never know.

Saying Dave went out with a bang and Nate and Michelle swapped spit before M left.

Nate says he didn't want it to be like that but game wise he didn't have a choice.

Talking about when the noms will be. Jee is tired of all the games they play, marbles, horse.

Justing says I've been in lots of arguements with her. He avoids it at all costs.

Jee saying the ratings have to be good...he needs some water, Jack says have another beer.

Can hear Dave talking but now have view of patio.

Ahhh...Jee and Nate are outside.

Nate says it's crazy. Says she just doesn't handle it professionaly.

Jee - what happened.

N - DAna was assuming I wanted her on the block.
we were just playing it out...she was going from us to you. There's not one person includeing Justin that didn't say something about putting her (Dana) on the block. Justing said he was going to call everyone out on that and Ali got mad.

Nate says Ali thinks that Justin is going to campaign to save his butt...with Dana - no one's safe but maybe Jun. Nate thinks it will be 2 guys on the block.

jee - what I learned this week is I just don't know.

N - no one does. someone is your best friend and then your worst enemy.

(Ed....all this while they shoot baskets.)

Ali on patio...Nate asks if she went and talked to Dana. (Could not hear her response.)

A - it is just wrong that he would call me out and not admit what he did.

N - If he says he didn't say that about Dana then he's lying. If he's saying he's innocent then he's lying..there's not one person that didn't say they would put Dana up.

Jee - I'm not taking anything to heart. Everyone of you did what you had to do...what's done is done.

Nate - I just don't think she's handleing HOH in a professional way.

A - Jee do you think I kissed you A** last week.

J - no - not really.I'm not putting down people...it's just part of the game. Eeryone is going to handle things their own way...what can you do..take it day by day and week by week.

Now talking about sleeping and the food comp in 6 hours.

Ali said she couldn't believe it when she flipped out on Jun. Erika is outside now and says she will end up putting up Robert and Jee but she wants the Drama.

Nate says if they get to her first about all this she's going to believe them. I really don't think there's anyone who can change her mind.

Erika says she doesn't think she'll put Nate and Ali up she's just mad.

N - I don't understand why she said she wanted HOH and now she's flip flopping again. I don't think Robert's going to handle this well. He's probably going to go.

Erika says just stay cool, don't blow up.

N - she has personal feeling for Justin

E - Jun will have the most influence.

N - If she puts us up she knows her butt is up the next week.

E - No...she's smarter than that.

A- if she can't put Justin up because she wants to make out with him...that's not playing the game smart. And how she said she wants everyone to be scared tonight.

N - I just thought she would handle it better than this.

E - just be cool...stick with the story.

A - Nathan...she's making out with my X in front of my face..that is so disrespectful.

A - is mad...is ready to lay her A** out.

N - they were talking about paying to see them fight...he'd take Ali.

N - I'm not gonna kiss her ass though. Erika keeps saying she's not stupid she's just playing it...she's not stupid...she's gotta put Justin up.

N says she's going to play with emotion not brains. It was hard for me to vote out M...but I did it because it needed to be done.

Talk about the Veto being stronger than HOH.

E - she has no power after tomorrow so she's playing it. Says Dana threatened to find out where she lives.
Dana asked Erika about the story. Dana said she's just using Justin.

Nate says she's going to manipulate everyone in the house.

Erika keeps saying she has to do it (put Robert and Justin Up) because she doesn't have the numbers and she's be screwed...she's gotta know that.

Nate does not want to see Dana win because of the way she's playing..

Nate - man...I had that answer too...man.

Nate - Wow...how the tide has changed.

E - I'm not worried about DAna...but I'm so glad it wasn't Justin. She'll put up 2 men...and if she's smart it won't be you.

Jack - Jun says Dana thinks she knows everything but she doesn't. Says he wants to stay out of that room...talked to her for a minute. Told her to stay long term in this house is to stay with the alliance and stay with the numbers.

N - She's not going to put up Justin..there's no way.

N- A lot of those girls are not going to talk to Jee.

Jack told Jee he needs to look at his source and be careful who his friends are. Said Erika has saved you..you're still her because of her.

N - what if she puts Jack and I up. Erika doesn't think she's going to...right now she's hurt and very dramatic but it will come down to the numbers..Jack says she's persuaded by numbers not loyalty.

N - Robert wanted Dana out and Justin said it too. Justin said he wasted too much energy trying to go after E - and he wants to talk.

Timed out.

Justareader

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 02:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana - pledging allegience to Jun - convinced they are together til the end...
Rob continues to say they all want her out...
rehashing what happened with the vote and POV discussions last week...

keep explaining to robert...
rob - would rather have you get me out than any of these others....ali is pissing me off the most, dont trust erica -


Dana - i dont - she is just always in here...

Jun - do you wanna stay or leave
Rob - I wanna stay but if i leave Im good... I will be happy either way...

Jun - they will be begging for alliances.

Rob - Nat and Ali were alwyas my choice then jack and dave -
jun - dave and jack are stronger mor logical players
dana - but ali will be pissy and vote against you just because...
jun - "they" did not want you to win - they have been trying to split us up from the beginning...

now discussing Nate and how he is nervous... and others...
rob - they play out of fear,
dana - yeah they arn't playing save...i put you guys up then I am next - why should i make their life easier.

rob getting jee for her

Jun - do you trust him?
dana - what do you think?

ericka comes in Dana steps out
erick - he's a liar
jun - she trust them more cause they have been talking to her all week.
ericka - but we already told her..
jun - its the timing
erika - rob is the worse out of all them that wanted you out - he's full of it.

erika out
dana what do you think
jun - talk to everyone - yah - rob is very persuasive look who you have advantage overin competitions...
dana but if we go with RJJ thye will help us get them out.
jun - put up 2 guys
dana - dave and nathan
Jee comes in

Lostintheglades

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 02:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
thanks justareader!!

Feed 4

Jack thinks Robert and Jee on the block is fine...it will isolate Justin.

Nate says Robert doesn't care.

Jack says if you can get your point across and say very little you don't trap yourself.

Nate said he didn't want to get into an arguement with her at all.

Jack says we have to stay with the alliance. Says he could have taken Justin out.

N - says he just blurted his answer out...felt rushed.

BB - Nathan...please reattach your microphone.

Erika goes in to do damage control. Something about going in after Robert in HOH.

Jack - Erika is very uh...now on Dana and Robert in K

Dana say she's gotta be the coolest HOH up in this place. Says Robert was scared..coming in with a toothbrush.

Dana says I need to talk to her for a few.

Now sound on Alison and Justin.

Justin says she's in the circle...I just got surprised as shit today. I'm not going to be fake about it. Dana knows pretty much everything.
Ali says she's letting his personal feelings get in the way.

J-The two most innocent people went out the first week...so don't tell me I'm playing the game wrong.

J- you said you had my back from the get go. you lied.

A - I am hated because I am your X...

J - People heard you talk about Dana...she knows you hate her...so don't be fake...that's not going to gain anyone's trust.

A - so now you're saying I can pull you away from her.

J - the only time I'm with her is inside at night.. You can easily come in a grab me and talk to me.

A - It hurts me to see you with her...it's disrespectful.

J- I tried to tell you she's a cool chick...you say I just don't know and I'm f'g stupid. You're mad because I caught you in these lies. The only reason we had that escapade out there is because you got mad.

A - Can I tell you what I think. You do your thing I do mine. You don't do that. Never once have you come up to talk to me.

J - you lied to me in the hottub - he's not an idiot...he knows she has something going on with Nate but you say oh no...I'm just using him.

A- lot of times you've let your personal life get into the game. You've cried and shit.

J - said she's done 2 or 3 things that make him not trust him.

A tells him he's yelling. J says you don't have to talk to me anymore...I don't trust anyone in this house.

Robert.comes in...Ali says he can come in...she can deal with Justin while he's there.

Robert and Justin leave...go in LR...View still on Ali doing her nails in the "Love Room"

Justareader

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 02:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
getting the same info from jee that she got from Justin and Robert....she was explaining what happened to here just prior to vote.

Jee telling that everyone thinks she is paranoid. and strong as a player.. now giving disseration of his HOH stay...(see last weeks feeds)

Dana - were you gonna get rid of me next?
Jee - no we were gonna use you (hurries and changes tact) we felt you would go a long with you.
dana - did you hear the words "i hate dana"
jee - yah and then some...i sent out rob and just to deal with jack and david to ensure michelles saftey

jun - you know about the deal with dave and jacK?
jee - yah...
jun - don't tell them (justin and rob) everything for your safety

Dana now explaining her plan (see above posts)

no side deals with anyone - gotta vote together etc until they are the final 5 and then everyone for themself...

Dan- it sucks that ericka is still here.

jun - bringing up the baiting question again....

jee defending his HOH time with same stuff he said last week: i worked like a dog - they did not respect me blah blah blah - look at previous posts (last thurs)

in come rob and justin -
justin - talking about nate trying to make a deal with him Jee3 leave

now jun and dana are whispering about the deals with jack and dave (she is protecting jee) and jee did not know. Justin and Rob are on a different path? but now she is saying she feels that jee may be lying about them wanting to put up dana next week... Jun continues _ we must continue what is going to better us in the future for comps, etc.

Jun is inclined to day with RJJ but she doesn't completely trust them.
Dana - I win competitions, I don't lose - we can get HOH just as much as them.

both are taking a potty break.

Lostintheglades

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 03:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Feeds 3 & 4 now both on Ali...Doing Nails.

Now on Nate in BR washing his face. Jack comes in.

Now feed 4 is on Erika...unpacking.

Back t BR...Jack in WC...Alison sitting in chair in the BR.

Nate - what have you been doing
A - fighting
N - with Justin?
A - yeah.

Jack says they're starting now to set up Competition tomorrow.

N - where is everyone.

A - Dave, Jee and Jun are in her rom.

Now at Patio with Justin and Robert.

R - They know we're all f'd up...

talking about the lies and who said they wanted her out.

R - told her they did want to keep her on because she's a smart player.

R - They love us...(Dana and Jun?) So it could be 5 against 5.

R - when you spend time with her you gotta let her know.

J - if you keep me off the block and I get HOH next week you're fine. Dana said you wish I didn't have this much power right now.

R - says Nate is assuming we're out this week.

J - Everyone f'd us but I'm not taking it personal but I am in the game.

Whispering now...can't hear too well.

R - says he told Dana everything about Ali saying that J was stupid for liking Dana.

hear noises inside...they're going in to check it out...camera follows.

Nate Ali Erika and Jack in BR still. David is in bed. Talking about something falling on her head when she opened the door.

They are very quiet in the BR. Ali is so mad she missed the question. Jack says she did really well. Now talking about competition. They knew all the answers it was just the pressure.

(Ed...can't wait to read what I missed tonight in order to get up this early.)

Jack...it's funny how losing 3 people opens up beds.

Ali - Jee Robert and you...Jun's sleeping with Dana...I will not sleep in the same room with Justin...I'll sleep on the floor or in the bathtub. (trying to figure out where everyone is sleeping).


Ali - I hate him so much right now. He said she could approach him anytime. That's stupid...she is always there. yeah...we're not friends at home...but I should be able to say hey, what's up...but I feel like I can't.

Now looking for her purple brush...ahh...found it. and now says she has to pee.

Ali in WC....

Now see Jack getting ready for bed.

shot of Blue bedroom...empty.

Jee, Robert, Nate and Justin in "Love Room" talking about the vote.

Jee - I just felt bad about M...Nate said it bothered the hell out of him to.

N - he tried not to make out with her because he didn't want to see her hurt. No matter what I'm still going to be cool. I just want to be sequestered. 500k would be cool.

They seem to think they're going to Europe...so that no one will know them and they can go to clubs and.....(Ed...I don't think so....)

Saying Dana is emotionally unstable...Nate just wants her to handle it professionally. It's just everything that's gone down. After this week it won't be so tense...they just all want to be on the beach.

Dana goes into the room with the guys. Jun walks through. Jun says she's going to take them into HOH one at a time.

They want to sleep. Jun's worried about getting food tomorrow.

Ali goes into the "Love Room" to get something. they are all quiet as Ali sits downto finish work on her nails.

Now talking about the camera's...being able to see them. Ali's says her tooth is hurting.

Nate says it could be a cavity or just sensitive.

Ali doesn't know what a cavity feels like...They're telling her how bad it hurts. Now talking about root canals and how if the cavity get's real bad it hurts the roots.

Jee had his wisdom teeth pulled just recently. More dental talk.

Jack and Erika in bed...talking....

Rehashing the questions from today. How they knew the answers and they are doing a good job of thinking of what people are asking. Erika goes to camera...says "Hi"...."Hi mom"....(Ed...looked like a little girl...very close up.)

Erika washing her face in pore cam now.

posting

Justareader

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 03:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
ali and Dana in BR
dana - i don't trust anybody
david will you talk to me? if you wanna sleep i will get you in a.m.
jun dave and dana goin to HOH
Dana - tell me everything
dave - i have 2 times, everyon thinks you are schizo ok no one knew what you were gonna do, they did not trust you. telling about the offer made to him by rob. and that justin is talking to jack... but Dave says he needs to talk to jack. explains that they never secured the vote against erika. then i won POV.. RP communicating lost some... dave says I threw up the idea about you going up and they said nah she is gonna go next week and gives jees speil about securing michell...lost sound... and thats why we waited to the last minute to tell you...(he made a good case for him and the others)
jun - i have been talking to dan all week and no one else beside RJJ telling her everything that is why she was talking to them... RP communicating
Then it got me thinking about them not knowing about the originall out the exes alliance and we were working that..Jun and dana tell him they still don't know that they think they are after them cause they did not allow use of POV. ...Dave then we thought more andmore that she is not with them - we will give her a chance (see above)
nate comes in and ask about sleeping arrangements - night guys
dave and we knew the surprise would get them and knew you would really freak out so we gave you a chance.

Justareader

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 03:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
anyone else to cover 1/2? I gotta run shortly!!

they are starting to talk in circles....same old info just dave is new person....

Justareader

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 03:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
talking bout wisdom of sticking with original 7 - Dave - if i got HOH justin and robert would be going up that is it. everyone is nervous because they are unsure up what you would do.
dana - they seriously think they are targets because they did not allow use of POV?
Dave yah - bottom line - I don't know much about you but if you want to be sequestered with justin or what but The group needs to split up the exes. Go with the group to go forward and then worry about the others....
they are continually talking about what has happened.
jack comes in and says is 320 and dana says go on to bed...
and they keep talking to dave..

gotta run!!

Lostintheglades

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 03:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Feed 4

Jack and Erika remembering the comp from today for future questions in comps. Who played against who...who answered what question, who the groups consisted of, etc.

(Ed...they have been very good at this.)

E - it's okay that she's HOH...I really think she'll do the right thing.

J - I don't want Nate overconfident...because of their relationship. If one of them wins the veto then the pressure is on her again...we have the numbers...he keeps telling her her comfort level is with us...and she doesn't have to compete so hard.

E - she's acting like everyone is overconfident. she wants to put herself in that position...she's very passionate and very emotional but she's not stupid.
They think m went because we couldn't use the Veto.

J - He told them that he and D had an alliance to cover in here...they couldn't make a deal like that with them.

E - I wanted to grab Dana before R went in there.

Jack thinks Justin is resourcful enough to win the competitions...but not enough to keep him in the house...he thinks Robert would just give up.

E wishes it was faster to the HOH comp...it was too much time for them to recover.

J is glad noms are tomorrow because of the drama.

E says she's really making this way too hard.

J - she might be irritating - I don't care...

E - she's letting her personal feelings get to her. She likes Justin.

J - this is about the most drama you'll ever have in a vote.

E - I think it's funny that they think it's because they wouldn't use the veto. Nate said the first night You take that room and I'll take this one...you take my back and I'll take your's.
We'll let each other know what's going on in each room.

J thinks E, Dave and Nate might be a good last 4
I don't want to say anything cause I might change my mind. I will be commited to you and Dave.
Everyone knows how tight we are.

J - spend some time with Jee...he's probably anxious to talk to you. He needs to understand that with Robert it is personal

Jack said he talked to Robert about Erika and said the short time I've been with her I've found her to be very intelligent and chooses her words very carefully. And when she mentions you, she would just like to be able to talk and have it not be so tense. He said he was suspicious and Ali broke it up when they talked before. I spent way to much energy directed at getting Erica...even if I get the power I'm not going after Erika...he asked Jack to set it up so he could talk to Erica.
(Ed. I was wrong in an earlier post...I thought it was Justin that said that to Jack...sorry, it was early for me and no coffee yet.)

E - If he stays then she'll talk to him. Wait to see if he nom'd.

J - without makeing overtures...just re-establish some communication without the bitterness.

J I really felt it was Robert talking to me and not a front. I found when he talks about his daughter he calms down...if we can find that Robert and make it work for us it would be good.
The Robert I heard talking to Dana was just everywhere....

E - feels like she should go reign him in.(?) That's his problem...he's not focused. He needs a lot of stimulation.

J - this house is full of sharp people.
E - yeah it is...it's and interesting mix.
J - You're judgement is very detached...you're very observant.

Lostintheglades

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 03:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
J - if you'd won HOH I wouldn't have drank all those beers.

E- I thought Ali had it in the bag.

J - she already had one right...he knows why she missed the bedroom question...it was a logical answer.

E - it was a trick question...saying it was plural, "{most beds"...and you don't think of HOH as being a bedroom really.

They are quiet now...switching to see what's on feed 3

Ocean_Islands

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 03:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
David, Erika, Jack in their room.

David: I told her (Dana) everything... about the sex, about he couldn't trust her, told her she was paranoid, what the deal was, and she basically wasn't "in". That Robert and Jee were going to nominate her. I basically told her the full story. What she said gets her upset is that Nate and Alison came in there when she was head of household, basically trying to get Dana out, and shefeels it was to protect themselves, which in part I am sure it is.

By them doing that to themselves, to try to secure their own place off the block, they were giving every
one else a bigger chance to be up on the block. So I told her that I could see where she was coming from; everyone is in the game for themselves. Just like everyone. Everyone is going to do that. That is something that canbedealt with, once we have that '7' left. And she says she is afraid that it isgoing to be her when the seven are left. You are not going to have a majority over anyone ... and yet you could break that now by putting us up and saving the Xs, but you are going to screw that up, be against what we were for in the beginning.

It's three more weeks of getting the Xs out.

Jack: I told her, increase your longevity a few weeks ...

David: I told her I didn't know if she was the kind of person who could stand up and be ...... you've got to put up the Xs, Robert and Jee.... you know, Nate and Allie are going to do that, but not as much as if you break up the group. Did she tell you guys that Robert and Justin think we went against them because they didn't agree with the veto.

Jack: Nate knew that the three of us were solid over here, so he took care of Jun and Allie, I thought they'd figure it out, but they still do not get it.

Erika: Actually the 3 of us are sitting kind of pretty right now .... until after the Xs. And Nate and Allie and Dana will go after themselves rather than us.

David: Yea, but say that happens . . . . no matter what anyone says, Dana is the first to go

Jack: yea

Erika: after this point, Dana wants Nate and Allie out, and they want her out.

Jack: This will get us further along, I can foresee, too, as we count down, two or three more bodies, they are going to close one of the bedrooms, and we will all have to be together, and we might not be able to work together.

David: The closer it gets to that seven, the more we need to split up. We need to not be seen so together.

Erika: I'm forming more of a relationship with Allie, but I like you guys the best! I keep gravitating back to the people I like!

Jack: Erika and I have the natural cover of the turtles, because we both take care of them. We can always play the chess game, you and me, that's the advantage of the large board over the small one.

David: Yea I still say ...

Jack: And you instincts are right that it will be Robert and Jee. If one of those two gets the veto, and exercises, then Dave she is in the same place as before, and she'll have to put Justni up, and be for or gainst us. I don't want that to happen, I just want to get rid of Robert. We took a chance yesterday, and it paid off handsomely. But we can't be too exuberant ... we don't knw what will happen tomorrow.

Quieting down now.

Ocean_Islands

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 03:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana and Allison

Allison: And then they were like doing scenes from the Green Mile... Oh gosh, we have got to be awake in four hours.

Dana puts perfume on before going to bed.

Dana: You know, I was not planning on winning. There was no final round, was there? Oh yea, that's right ... It happened so fast, I didn't have time to throw the game. I really just didn't even have time to throw the game. This week, I was just not sure what I was going to do. You know, I just don't know what the hell is going on.

Allison: Nobody does.

Dana: I mean, you know?

Allison: Did June help you?

Dana: I need her here because I can't be everywhere at once. I need her. Its not a secret that we (Allie and her) don't get along.

Allison: I'm not kidding, I'm not lying, I see you, me, and Jun at the end. Coming after you would make no sense. It would be the 3 of us aganist Erika David and Jack.

Dana: I don't want it to be me and Jun against everyone else. I mean, it was like just the four of us .... We need to have something like Erika Jack and David. Erika said she would trust Jack with her life.

Allison: I would never go against Jun or you, ever. My gut feeling is that Nathan needs to be checked, though.

Dana: We could have 2 more weeks before one of the 8 go up. The Xs provide a bit of time, you know what I'm saying? We are going to have to think of what to do.

Allison: How did we go wrong? You don't have to worry about me, now.

Dana: It's Justin, I feel bad.

Allison: I like him, it's just ... I swear.

Dana: If I were in here with an X, I'd understand. That's what came between us, that's fine. That's fine. At the same time you remember that there will be 7 people at the end voting. That's the way I'm doing it. I'd like to see myself against Jun or you, in the end. Or Nate. That is the way I am playing. I want to be with two awesome people, you know? That would be cool. I want a cool person to win, someone I like. It would rather be you and me, and one of us can take the ••••••• prize at the end.

Allison:

Dana: If anybody in the 8 come against me, I am ripping this place a part. Because I could put one of them up.

Allison: No one is planning to do that, I swear to God. I never though the 8 would last.

Dana: I didn't either. I thought someone would bail.

Allison: David came up to me upside and said what is going on, and I didn't know what the hell was going on. And I was like ....

Dana: The exes that left, I still think they were persuadable Xs.

Allison: Like, what do you mean?

Dana: ... wouldn't you be scared if Erika was HOH? We all sat in here with Nathan, and said, "Erika is going up" that's the only reason Erika was up. Robert wanted her to go, but we were all for her going. They know tonight was a great move, they can't deny it.

Allison: I know.

Dana: But I will be so livid, furious, pissed off, if it backfires ...

Allison: It won't on my part. Do you want to stick with the plan?

Dana: Yea. Gosh, I need to go to sleep, but I still need to talk to Justin....

Lostintheglades

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 04:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Feed 3 also on Jack and Erika...

J - I was thinking about the food comp...and wondering how far away it was. It's pretty late.
We can just be like David and just ball up in the covers.

now shot of David in BR.. Justin came out of WC...David goes in.

E - HOH would be nice becuase of the perks.

J - I agree.

David comes in....singing..."first call"

D - what a great first impression huh?

E - stop talking about it.

D - I can't..it's right here in front of my head.

I told her how she's paranoid, they couldn't trust her and that they were going to nominate her. And she wasn't in the agreement of who to save if we got HOH.

She feels like it was to protect themselves but by them doing that to secure their own slot...they take away from the rest of the group. So why promote that when they're the one's causing the problems. He told her he's sticking with the group because that's what was agreed on.
She's afraid after the X's are gone...she thinks she'll be the first one gone.
Told her she could put one of us up and save the X's but it's not going to guarantee the original group as we planned.
Told her she has to put up Jee and Robert and Robert's going to go. Told her they're always going to try to use her. Robert and Justin told her we went against them because they didn't use the Veto.

J - It's amazing they still don't get it...and no one told them.

E - saying that Ali and Nate and Dana and Justin will start to go after each other...which keeps us in a pretty good position.

J - as we get down...they're going to close a room and force us all together.

D - but the closer it gets to that then we're going to have to spit up more or we become targets.

E - is trying to form a relationship with Ali...but she likes you guys.

J - the turtles are good cover...we can talk while we feed the turtles...feed them forever.

D - I still say it's up in the air for tomorrow.

J - I think Erika's instincts are right..that it will be Jee and Robert. If one of us gets the Veto...she has to make a choice...and put Justin up and show her cards. Says Food comp will be tomorrow afternoon.

They start to settle in a bit. (Ed....you can tell as they lie there their minds are still working.) Erika and Jack stare up at the ceiling.

Video still on Desert room....hear sounds from BR though.

Feed 3 and 4 still on Desert Room with Jack,Erica and Dave. Erika has now rolled over a bit.....

E - gotta go Pee.

J - I'm right behind you.

David swamps blankets with Erika and laughs..."see if she notices." Jack laughs.

Jack laughing about not knowing he was over there. He's asked where Dana was and heard Dave's voice say "I don't know"

Dana says goodnight to turtle people.

Erika comes in..."David...you did not steal my blanket" Takes her blanket back...Dave says.."it was just a joke...you don't have to cry/ Crybaby."

Erika like the light on...she can see them.

D - "Erika came in for some Chinese food..."

Now in the "love room"

Robert - everyone that sleeps in here ends up leaving.

Jee - it's not looking too good for you Jake (?)
Video on Nate and Jun Sound coming from somewhere else.

male = Jee, quit jerking off...you're the one with your hands in your pocket.

Jee says when I was in HOH...I always thought about keeping my hands out. Jee starts to say something and then says..."I can't think about that cause I'm on death row"

Nate and Jun in Double bed but sound keeps switching. from blue room to the "Love Room"

Now they're singing "Dead Man Walking", referring to Justin. Jun is not sleeping with Dana I guess as I hear her voice as well.

They are now making fun of Nate's accent. Keep hearing Jun whispering so I now have sound from both rooms...but video is on Nate and Jun who are whispering...can't hear a thing.

Justin = Jun how often did you masturbate while you were sequestered, before you came to the house.

Justin says Nate had his bible in one hand and throwing it around with the other.

Nate - I didn't

Robert - then you're a stronger man than I am.

Nate - I'm not perfect...I make mistakes and I'm not happy about them.

Justin is still singing "dead man walking" They're calling the Blue room death row now.

Someone says "is Dana still talking to people? Who's in there now?"

Male - Ali

Now talking about noms and food comp tomorrow.
How they will have a busy week.

Nate says last week was the longest week ever, someone says that's because you couldn't eat.

Justin keeps saying it's f'g cold over here.

Ali comes in and tells Justin it's his turn in HOH. (Ed...Dana saved Justin for last)

Ali crawling in to the bed with Jun and Nate...

I will try to listen but the whispering is hard to hear.

Nate - what'd she say? ( can't hear ali at all...sorry)

If any us get the veto not to use it.(?) something about putting up Justin...ali says she's being smart. (Camera moves and makes it harder to hear.)

Ali said she was very impressed when she said that. ( Ed...darn camera.)

If the veto is used Dana is thinking of putting up Jack or Erika. (?)

Jun...we're taking a nap right now.

Ali goes to the other bed...says it's cold and she has no one to snuggle with because M's gone.

All seem to be quiet.

oops...Cam switches to Desert room...Dave,Erika and Jack are still up and talking...just general talk. Dave says he has pictures out there without clothes on...He says they're not sex photos...E asks so they're just sexy pictures not pictures having sex.

Talking about not taking clothes off in front of the camera. Jack says he looks forward to seeing that issue of Playboy...E jokes that they can't buy that issue...but J says he'd like an autograph.

David is still awake and laughing...E asks what he's laughing about...he says stuff, stuff, stuff.

Yeah...that would be the worst mistake of that girls life.(Dana?)

D - there's a picture of me humping a blow up doll. it's a joke and she's got it to. I was in the army..he walked to his room and there was somebody on his bed. He had a down comforter and everyone would steal it from him. He walked up to the bed and swung the head back...it was a blow up doll...everyone was hiding and started laughing...so he pulled his towel off and starts humping it.

E - who took that picture
d- a buddy
E and you gave it to her
D - yeah..it was a good shot of my A**

Ocean_Islands

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 04:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Justin and Dana

Dana: Pull the blinds closed.

Justin: Should I lock the door?

Dana: You're not sleeping in here

Justin: Are you pooped?

Justin lays on top of her.

Dana: Kinda.

Justin: Are you liking the power?

Dana:: It's kinda crazy.

Justin: What do you think I'm lying, dammit? We're ••••••. Are you putting me on the block?

Dana: No. I'm not sure what to do, but I'm not putting you up. A) don't want to B) dont' want to make it easy for them

Justin: Gosh you got bifocals

Dana: No, they're not. I want you to at least to the end.

Justin: You're a sweetheart

Dana: Selfish reasons, I guess.

Justin: Thank God

Dana: I want it for Robert and Jee, too. Honestly, I don't think I had a choice. I 'm not sure if I wanted to win it, but ... everyone else ••••••• lost.

Justin: I didn't want to win it. I didn't want everyone against me.

Dana: Prior to the eviction?

Justin: Yea. No one was after me.

Dana: Are you kidding, I'm been telling you that all week.

Justin: I know but ...

Dana: Part of me thinks that I had to win it ... I don't know what to think. ... I had to ask Alli to leave, so I could talk to you. Otherwise ...

Justin: She should have been gone week 1. I don't know how much trust you have for me.

Dana: I don't have trust in anyone in this house.

Justin: Not me either?

Dana: Maybe you

Justin: You should trust me 100%. I mean, last week, after the veto, Robert and Jee were going to put you up. And everyone was saying, put her up, and all

Dana: The way they make it sound it is that you and Jee were totally after me

Justin: No, we never went against the grain, but we were never going after you, ever. We wanted Erika out. That is... we weren't caring about you being out.

Dana: I was trying to tell Jee all week, don't put up a Pawn. Why don't people listen to me?

Justin: climbs on top of her, puts his arm around her neck.

Justin: You're supposed to be my ally. •••• 'em. I don't care. I can't believe how . . .

Dana backs off from under him. They are lying now facing each other, holding hands.

Dana: What do you think I should do?

Justin: If there is anyone you should trust, it is me, Robert, and Jee. I might sound biased, but ...

Dana: I know, we've been friends for ever.

Justin: If you are going to build an alliance, I mean, they might get one of us out. But I honestly believe they are coming after you next. I just heard so much shit from people the last couple days, how much they wanted you out. Jee was HOH, Dave had the veto, and Jee wasn't going for voting you out in an instant nomination. They're ••••••• lying to you so much that ... I'm in a whirlwind. I mean you can guarantee that for sure that me, Robert or Jee would never, ever, ever vote you out or be against you. I mean, what I am saying is do what you need to do.

Dana: If I don't go with these guys, I am drawing the line against them.

Justin: Obviously. Let it •••••• start.

Dana: I mean, they want me gone, they want me gone ...

Justin: It sucks, but a choice must be made. I am so stupid, I gave them my word that no matter what I would not put them up or vote them off.

Dana: I know, I ...

Justin: So what happens if we do do it.

Dana: People are going to be straight up hating each other. My gut is telling me to go with you guys. I know what you are going to do. And everyone in this house underestimates me COMPLETELY. And I love that. I don't look at you as a threat, but I'd rather be here with you that someone who sucks. I want it to be the most comfortable, enjoyable environment possible. They are all like 'Justin is cool and fun and you can have a ••••••• good time'. Erika hasn't come out of that room in a week, and suddenly she is a social butterfly.

Justin: I know ...first hand experience.

Dana: I knew from the jump that you guys were a target (the Xs)

Justin: I knew that. Especially after that ••••••• competition. I knew it, absolutely.

Dana: Because you are Xs.

Justin: I know.

Lostintheglades

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 04:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Feed 3 & 4 still on desert room.

Still chatting...Feed froze.

Jack talking about something that's worrying him. He'd like to shed it.

David keeps saying...naw...she wouldn't do it.

Jack - she probably wouldn't right now.

David puts Amanda's hat down over his eyes now and Erika has finally closed her eyes. It is quiet again in the Desert Room.

Lostintheglades

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 04:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank you OI...go0d to see you.....Everyone is sleeping except for Justin and Dana...can you handle it from here?

Ocean_Islands

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 04:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Justin and Dana:

Justin: I never in my life saw Big Brother. I never even heard of it. I'm not going to go crazy about not winning this money. Never in my life did I think someone my give me $500,000. I'm not going to go nuts about a ••••••• show I've never even heard of.

I said to myself in this game I wasn't going to lie, and after all this I went in the DR and I asked if they thought I told a lie, and they said, "I don't think so".

You know, I can draw a line, this is game, or this is personal. And people just kind of shrugged it off. And some people have had the ••••••• nerve, Allie, for instance, thinks she's so cool. And -- you have no idea how much she lies. She lied again, back there, and she tried to smooth it over. I told her what the lies were, and one of them was in the very beginning, "I'm not coming after you and all" and then I never heard a peep from her.

...

Then Allison told me that 'we are not after you' and 'you are begin stupid' and I didn't want to listen to it. And I told her it was like a personal attack on me. How can she say 'they are not going after you'? I mean, tell me you are not coming afte me! And she couldn't say anything. She was speechless.

Dana: Oh my god, this is insane. I mean, I can't play this game .... based on alliances with people I like. And right now, the numbers could go ... I don't know. If I stick with them, it's 7 of us. If I stick with you guys, we'd have 5 weeks, and we could get rid of a lot of people, and there's no guarantees. I will win every competition I can.

Justin: I am a threat, physically, in competitions.

Dana: I can't wait to go home and see the ••••••• tapes. I said to Allison, "I'll go and ••••••• find you." I JUST WISH YOU had listened to me!

Justin: I did. I just can't speak up in front of all these people.

Now they are spooning, quieting down a bit.

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