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September 4, 2003 - Day 62 - Ali/Jun nominated:
Archive through September 04, 2003
Jdel | Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 11:50 pm     Robert - I look at it like this - I could say f it and I could go to the finals with ali and win but I would rather go with you. If I go with ali I win 500k if I go with you I might not win the 500k but I don't care. I will be you and me and I didn't think I would ever say this in my life but I would be so happy for you. I know how hard you work. Erika says so you want ali out this week. Rob says he might tell them that he might not put erika up. Rob says that he's going to tell ali that he thinks she could smoke him physically. Erika asking if he thinks ali should be the first to go. Rob - we forgot about something - if you go against jun we have the votes because. Erika - I feel I know allison - I don't think I can vote her out. I told ali that if I go up. Robert - you know this girl has been f'n all of us. Why does she have to keep coming in asking if she can be part of the dream team. Justin told me I should stick with you. Believe me she will f you - she's just evil, she talks about everybody. You'll never see the girl again. Erika says but I have to vote. Robert says do you want to be up and have jun put her out? Robert says you have ali's vote and jun's vote. If you don't want to then f it - I'll just go up against ali and win it. Believe me you will regret it if you stay with her. Erika - I don't want to piss her off - she not's going to vote fair. Robert - I know. Erika - alright I'll do... Robert says just think about it - how nice it would be if we won some freak'n money. ali banging around outside. Robert - don't think for a second that she gives a f about you. You played the game the best and its better than somebody like that winning. Robert - if you don't want to don't lie to me just tell me. The guys told me to hook up with erika and they are smart guys believe me. I respect you because you told me when she was switching sides. I don't want to put you up because I want to keep you safe. ali called to DR. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:01 am     Robert wants to get something straight.. the Jee-3 made an alliance, anything they would do is for the team.. we always said this. We saived Justin twice, never let things get personal, that's what we had.. when it came to you and me in the hammock , er at the table and I said you're the next one, what I was trying to do, I didn't want you to go, nothing personal, Justin and Jee thought you were stronger, I did too.. we all sat there and said it isn't Jack. Robert said it had to be Erika, the second time.. Robert says he had to vote her out. Don't want you to think I'm trying to patch things up because they left. I didn't want you to go.. I kept thinking the only person I have now is Erika, as a friend, etc.. She's just nodding. This is a miracle from God, you staying here and me getting HOH. Tell you what, you should feel good about yourself that Justin and Jee thought she was so strong. Erika says he doesn't take it that way (ed. Erika is almost shouting!) she knows it wasn't personal. (ed. he also says he won't tell anyone else this, between them) Robert says this is good for you and for me.. for finals. You aren't going up this week, 50% chance that both of us are here. I want to get Alison out. I know what you're thinking. I think it is going to be harder for me, you, Alison in the end, harder to win with her, athletic or whatever.. I'm not talking about the voting. Ali gone this week, then me/you/Jun.. two oout of three. I win HOH this week.. I go against you, guarantee us both winning.. I think I'd KILL Alison in the finals, I think I'd even beat Jun. Thinks Erika would beat him (ed. he's talking really fast and breathless) Doesn't want to see anyone else win the money, won hardest HOH, dealt with me being in the house, so basically I'm saying I want to go into the final with you. If I get to choose, I will choose you. (ed.someone knocks, ALISON).. Robert says they can talk after this) Erika sounded nervous, asked Ali if she wanted to talk to the "headmaster". He wants Erika to pledge to take him. She's nodding Now Erika is whispering I just think that... Erika wants Jun out first, thinks they couldn't kill Jun, Robert says seriously next week's HOH.. if Ali gets it... that is what Robert is scared of. Me, you and Jun.. you or I can win it. Physical and mental.. Ali is crazy with physical stuff, Justin has told me about her.. you did the cage, but she can too. (ed. yikes, I really think he's right, scary) Robert thinks if they let Ali stay, she is way more dangerous. He knows what Erika is saying, to get Jun out first. Erika says tough decision. What did Jee tell you to do? Robert says Jee and Robert have personal things against Ali. Ali told me to walk out yesterday.. I messed up told her how I felt, miserable, and she said , you can go home, walk out anytime, made me feel so bad it was a scummy thing to do to somebody (ed.Erika's not looking him in the eye.. with her alliance with Ali, I guess). Robert says to me every one of them is equal. Erika is convincing him that Jun is a bigger threat that Dana would vote for Jun. Robert sighs. Stammers, asks what Erika thinks. Erika says I dunno, tough decision. Robert says you want to go to the final with Ali.. Erika won't say. He says you can be honest. Robert says we have a chance to do it together, I think the votes will be so F-ing fair and in your favor. But the only way to get both of us to the final is TAKING ALI OUT. In the finals, if it is me, Jun, you, you don't want to face Jun? or take me out? She thinks he or Jun could beat her. He says NO.. Robert says he told Jee to be very fair when he voted.. says Ali and Jun will not win, Justin will make it that way.. Erika says why don't we take her out. Robert asks what she thinks the final competition will be, I'm scared. We'll do what you want, Jun.. you gotta do this for me, want you to answer me, you can wait, wait a week. If one of us win next week, will you take me with you, but want it to be a good move for you. I really think it is split down the middle, totally equal thing. My goal here is to have two chances in the finals, not one. You could think about this all week, you have a phat chance of winning something, if you do it with me we have a sweet chance, just have to win.. If next week it is me, you, Ali, if Ali wins she takes me out (ed. she'd take him with her) Erika says they (Jun and Ali) think they have a better chance against Robert than against Erika Erika's thinking.. jokes and says split the money.. Robert says we can't do that, already got in trouble for that. Erika keeps hugging a stuffed dog, black that is on the bed. Robert says, well I could go to the end with Ali.. Go with you I might lose but I don't care. Erika says but you'd have to get there. Robert says he really doesn't know which way it will go, me and you, I think it will be very fair. If you beat me, you deserve it.. but I don't want Ali to win either way. If I go up against Ali, I'll kill her. Erika says so instinctively, you want Ali to go.. He is so nervous, backpedals.. Robert says he'll just tell them he's not putting Erika up.. say Jun and Ali are strongest.. I'll just make it up.. BUT, I don't know which one I want gone, I'll tell Ali and Jun the same thing. Erika says, instinctively, you think Ali should be first to go (ed. he asked her) Robert says Look if you go up against Jun, I'm out there and I WILL vote for you. Erika says she feels like she owes Alison, couldn't vote her out! Erika says Ali < > to me.. can't hear her. Erika says she told Ali she won't put Ali up. Robert says don't you know how this girl is playing the game? She's been F-ing all of us.. She kept coming in here and telling us she was part of the dream team, I'm telling you, she will F you.. she's just a piece of Sh#t, she's evil, she talks about you.. What is the OWING stuff. Erika whispers more.. Erika says Ali is a VOTE. Erika says she has to vote one of them out, if she isn't up. Robert says do you want to go up? Then says F it, you have to vote someone out. F it, I'll just go up against Ali. You have Ali's vote, but you also have Jun's vote. (ed. true) Don't give me that stuff that you OWE Ali.. Justin told me.. He also said Erika will never see Ali again (ed. the advice Erika gave to Michelle way back). Erika says I'm not saying it is me and Ali to the end, but I don't want to PISS her off. Robert says she even told me she's not voting for me (or voting) and I want her out,. Can hear Ali bellowing outside the room.. Lots of banging around outside the room. Erika sighs. Robert says don't give me that stuff about OWing.. she doesn't give a F about you. You played the best game and we are both mature and it can work, think about it. If I was thinking about myself, I'd go up against Ali. Erika asks if he's going to tell Jun (ed.. not sure if it was that he'd not put Erika up, or that he wants Ali out).. He says yes. Then he tells Erika what Justin did say to them about going with Erika because Ali will screw anyone.. and Robert says AND SHE DID SCREW US.. I'm not gonna regret for a second if we both go to the finals, and that is including losing. But I will regret other stuff if I trust the wrong person, Alison. Want you to be honest, not lie like Ali did to us. Erika says she would very much like to see Alison go, she's a threat, physical. Says if I get there, me, you, Jun, I'll take you with me to final. Robert is pleased Robert says you don't want to vote her out because you think she'll change her vote. She is not going to vote for me.. Erika says Jack said what the boys will regret the most is not using the veto to get Ali out. Why didn't you use it?? Robert (I think is confused about the time she is asking about) says because she was with us.. she was put in Justin's place.. Justin told me to get Erika now, but the girls got her first. Erika says why didn't you come to me then? Robert says because you told Jack everyone and it would blow up in our faces, and Ali and Jee would flip out, Ali always flips out. Robert, what are your concerns? You don't want to vote her out? Robert says you are going to final three because of move we made. Erika says if you had come to me last week.. Robert says I'm coming to you now. If next week, me, you and Jun or me, you and Ali, you are going to win no matter what.. you are going to finals, win some money.. Because of this week, you are going to win something, you are not going to be voted out by any of us.. I think for some reason, Alison should freaking go, man, we can beat Jun.. you have mor than I have, Jun doesn't have it. Erika says OK. For the whole week, she won't know what is happening. At the end we.. you vote her out, then leave her an awesome goodbye speech, blame me, say Robert made me.. Rob says seriously it is still three against one. Erika says OK, so Ali goes this week... Robert says I couldn't be doing this if I didn't genuinely like you.. If you me and ali go up, anyone would take her, sure freaking win, but I'll take you. Erika says I'll do it. Erika says have to work with Jun about the veto.. Both think.. Robert says Erika we have to get Ali out.. Erika says are you 100%, he wants to see Ali leave, but waffles and says he is so open.. Robert says the final competition he'd rather be with Jun. Erika says it could be cognitive and Jun is good at the cognitive ones. Depends on the competition. Robert says she is so, so right.. Erika doesn't know which one she wants out first.. Robert is glad he won, he's not coming in to kiss her a$$.. one of them too. got to win the F-ing veto too. Erika says alright, do you want to see Alison now? |
Jdel | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:01 am     checking on ali and jun - in bed no talking - don't know what they were doing before this. Ali seems to be laying there thinking. Back to rob and erika. Erika - why didn't you come to me that last week. Robert - I couldn't take a chance that you would have told jack and jack would have told jun. Robert - what are your concerns. I want to help you. Look what happened now - you're going to the final 3 because of the move you made. We have one more HOH to win next week. If next week we all go together me you and jun or me you and ali I'm the one that's out and you're gonna win no matter what. because of this week you're gonna be in. and I want you to keep me in. I think we can go man I think we can beat jun - you have what I have jun doesn't have that. and if one of us wins - so sweet Erika - so ali goes this week. Robert - yeah. Leave her an awesome goodbye speech - tell her you had to do it - that I threatened you. Erika - so ali goes this week and I take you if I go? Robert - yeah - I like you as a person. You can tell me - Erika - ok I'll do it but you have to get juns word that if ??? gets the veto. Robert - you know how jun is. Erika - let me sleep on it because I'm not sure who should go first. Rob - ok - I still think that if we get to the final and one of them wins it then I'm gone. Erika - it could be one of the cognative ones and jun is so good at that. Rob - you are so right that's why I need you here. Rob - we have to win the f'n veto. Erika asks if she should send ali in? Rob tells erika not to talk about sex because he's going to jump on her. erika leaves. |
Spooky974 | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:02 am     R-I don't care if I only win second prize, I just don't want Alli to get there. I want us to have a fair chance. E-I don't think I can beat Jun. R-I think you stand a good chance. He told Jee to be fair to Erika. Justin is a smart guy. He didn't want Jun in the finals. What do think the final competition will be. We'll try to agree on getting Jun out. If one of us wins HOH next week, we agree to take the other. I think it will be totally equal. I think everyone will respect you more. Two chances in the final rather than one. You could have a fat chance of winning something. All we have to agree on next week is to go this way. We just have to win. To tell you the truth, if Alli or Jun win, I can't control it. Ok, then I don't deserve. I hope you take me, because, there's stuff I can't say now. I mean we are going to see each after this and we know each other and it's different. This is the thing, if I want to be selfish, I could take Alli. If I go with you then I don't give a sh@t, but it would be worth it. I don't know which way it will go. If you won, I would be so happy for you. You care for your mom, you work your a## off, and you would deserve it. But, I really want you and I to both get the money. I'm going to tell them that I am going to put them up. E- I feel like I owe Allison. R-Why Can't hear her response. E-I did tell Alli I would watch her back. R-She has been f@@@ing everyone. She tells people what they want. She kept saying she was with teh Dream Team. I don't care what you say, she is evil. She talks about you too. E-But she's a vote at the end. R-Do you want me to put you up and have Jun vote Alli out. E-I don't know. R-I mean we need to decide, because if we can't get her, I just think you will regret it. Justin said she was constently covering her lies. I mean I kept saying why do mean people win the game, but I got HOH ,so maybe it is. E-I just don't want to get rid of her vote. R-I mean she told me she wouldn't vote for me in the end. Alli getting frustrated, that Erika is still in there and complaining. R-Don't give me that stuff about owing her because she doesn't give a F##k about you. E-I know. R-If you think about, that's why I won't even put you up because I want to be in the finals with you. If I wanted to I could go with Alli, but Justin even told me not to trust her. They said if I was the last one standing, to try to hook up with you. Not to go with Alli I won't regret losing if it is against you, but I would regret it if Alli was there instead of you. E-I would like to see Allison go, I mean she is a threat, except today, she choked. If it is you me and jun, I'm taking you. R-Ok, I thought that was a problem. E-No, I'd take you. R-Good, E-Erika asked why they didn't use the Veto to put her on. R-She told us that she was with us. She kept saying she was. E-Why didn't you come to us last week. R-We kept thinking that everything was going to be said, because you and Jack shared everything and we thought Jack would share with Jun and Alli would find out and freak out. E-I wish you would have come to me last week. R-It's this week. I can't picture you not winning any money. That's a good position to be in. I'm giving you my word. Just please keep me in. I think we really need to keep Jun. If it's holding on to a key, Jun can't do that, Alli can. Check this out. For the whole week, she dosn't know which way its going to go. I mean leave a message saying I threatened you. Just make me sound like I made you do it. I just want to get her out. I like you as person. I couldn't do it if I didn't genuinelly like you. I'm not going to take Alli it would be smart. But I don't like her. E-I'll do it but you have to try to get Jun's word that with the veto, she won't use it. Or she votes Alli. Erika said something else, but I didn't hear it. R-I want to talk to you about stuff. E-Jun can do stuff. R-See that's why I want you here. Erika going to leave and get Alli, Rob then mentions that she said she missed sex last week. E-Shut up. Other things were said but it was on top of each other and I couldn't hear. |
Grunge | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:03 am     switched feeds. erika and rob in hoh room. r:this is what i propose to you. you won't go up if i win the veto. i want to get ali out cause it would be harder to get ali out in the final three competition. i don't want to see you go, cause i don't want to see anyone else win the money. so basically, i want you and me in the final two. e: i think jun would be more of a threat in the finals. r: so what do you think. i think if its you,me and jun, you will win it. e: why do you think jun won't win. r: cause ali's more of the threat in the physical stuff, and i think it will be a physical compitition, and ali will get in a zone and be hard to beat. e:what did jee say to you. r: well, we have personal feelings against ali. you know, she told me to walk out yesterday. she's a scum bag. e: but what about jun. r: so, you want to go to the finals with ali. e: i haven't decided yet. r: i want you to get in the finals. even with me, you have a good chance to win. those two in the finals, won't win. justin said, don't take jun to the finals. e: so why not take ali. r: my goal is to have two chances in the finals,so if you win next week i want you to take me in the finals. if ali takes me out, then its meant to be. if i go with ali, i'll win, but i want to go with you to the final. i don't want ali to win. e: instinctively, you think ali should go? r: you can beat jun or ali, you have the votes. e: i feel like i owe ali. r: you know the way she's been playing, she's been f**king everyone up. i'll tell you, she'll f**k you up. what about me, she owed me and jee. e: but she's still a vote. r: well, you go the way you have to go. i'll go against ali in final two and win. but i still want you. justin even told me, she freakin lies. i'm cool. i get jun out. but if you want to go all the way with ali to the end, i'm not going for it. e: well, dude. r: just think about it, if we both win some money. but don't think for a second that ali cares for you. e: oh, i know that. are you going to tell jun that you are putting her up. r: yea. justin told me to hook up with erika, he said don't hook up with ali, and he was right. i'm not going to regret anything if we both go to the finals. e: i agree with you. i would like to see ali go cause she's a threat, even though she choked today. if its you,me and jun in the final three, i'll take you. r: you will. e: jack told me, those boys have made a mistake by not going for the deal to take the floaters out. cause the ones who deserve to win will be gone. r:tell me, do you want to go with me and get ali out. e:you should have come to me last week. r: i'm coming to you now. you have to promise me that you will keep me in. e: i will. r: i don't know, but for some reason, i know ali has to go this week. you will get ali's vote over me. just leave her an awesome good by speech. e: ok, ali goes this week. you have to talk to jun to not use the veto if she wins it. r: of course, but you know jun, there's only so many people. e: thats why i'm weary about jun, she's good at cognitive competitions. well, ok, do you want me to send jun or ali in. r: i don't want to do this all tonite. |
Watcher | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:03 am     Just came in on middle of conversation between Rob and Erika in HOH Room. Telling Erika about the time in the hammock when he told her that she would be the "next" one...was because Justin, Jee and him thought Erika was the strongest player. It wasn't personal and he didn't want her gone. He was thinking when Jee walked out of the house, that she is the only one he has here...as a friend, doesn't know what he would do if she wasn't here. He believes all this is like a miracle from God...everything that has happened. He wants to propose to Erika that what he wants to do...what will be good for him and her to get to the finals....says if he gets the Veto she won't go up or if she gets it. Says next week what he wants to do is get Ali out. He says it is going to be harder for them to win with Ali competing so his idea is Alison will be gone and it will be him, Erika and Jun for the final three. (darn...lost RP) Two reasons why he wants Erika to go to the end...he doesn't want anyone else to win the money and she has played her a** off and he wants to go to the finals with her. He says he promises that if he gets HOH next week, he is picking Erika to go with him in the final two. He is asking her what she thinks and he will respect her. Just wants to know and they will do it...if not, it will be every man for himself. Now Erika is whispering...can't hear her. Rob says he trusts her...just tell him what she thinks. Erika thinks they need to get Jun out first. Rob is getting all excited saying that next competition will be physical and mental and he knows that they can win it over Jun...not Ali...he can just see it happening. Erika says it is a tough decision...she is thinking. Asks what Jee said. Rob says that he and Jee have personal things against Ali. Says yesterday Ali told Rob to walk out. He made the mistake of telling her how miserable he felt and she told him to just walk out of the house. It made him feel bad...was a scummy thing to say. He doesn't want to regret taking her to the finals and then she smokes his a**. Erika says what do you think Jun will do? Erika is whispering again. He asks her again what she wants to do. She says again it is a really tough decision. Rob says he doesn't care if Erika wins the $500,000, he really doesn't...but he wants them to go to the end together. Says they will both have a fair vote in the finals. Erika saying she doesn't know if she could beat either Rob or Jun. Rob says he thinks that she does. He told Jee to be fair with Erika. Says that those other two girls are not going to win. Even Justin...he had a thing against Jun. Rob tells Erika he will put out whoever she wants out, but he wants her to think about, if she will take him to the end...she doesn't have to tell him now...just think about it. Rob tells Erika she has a fat chance of winning something and all they have to do is agree on something...and if she agrees, they both have a good chance of winning. Erika tells Rob the girls both think they have a better chance of beating Erika than Rob. Rob says he looks at it like, he would rather win half and have Erika win $500,000...he is not lying to her and not just trying to get her on his side. He never thought he would ever say this in his life, he knows the way she is with her mom, and how she lives her life and the way she has played this game...she deserves this. He just would not want Ali or Jun to win this. Rob says if Erika goes against Jun, she is going to beat. Erika saying she doesn't think she can vote out Alison. (says something else that I missed) I think she is saying that she told Alison if she ever went up, that she wouldn't vote against her. Rob reminds her of the way Ali is playing the game..the lying she does...and she will f*** her. She does not deserve it, she is evil...she talks about Erika and she talks about everyone else. Rob says you know you are not going to ever see that girl again. Erika says she is a vote. Rob tells her to think about what she wants to do. He knows that Erika has both Jun's and Ali's vote. But tells her not to give him that freanking thing about Ali...she will regret it and she knows it. He doesn't want evil people to win this game. Erika listening. Rob says if she thinks it's her and Ali to the end, well there is nothing he can do about it. Erika says she isn't saying that...it's just that she doesn't want to p*ss Ali off. Rob says just think about how it would be if we both win some freaking money. Erika says it *would be nice. Can hear Ali going into storage room and they get quiet a minute. Rob says don't think for a second that Ali gives a f*** about you. Says Erika played the game the best and they are both mature enough to talk to each other and it's just better than someone like that winning it. Erika asks if he is going to tell Jun that he wants to put Ali up? He says yeah. He is saying how Justin told him not to do ANYTHING with Ali...she will f**k them up...DO NOT trust her. Justin told him when they leave to hook up with Erika. Rob says he doesn't want to put Erika up because he wants them to go to the finals. Says he is not going to regret anything for a second if they both go to the finals...even if he loses. But he would regret other things...such as if Ali wins. Erika says she does agree with him in a lot of ways. She is a threat in many ways...both physically and mentally, although today she choked. (lost RP) Rob says so you don't want Ali out because you think she will change her vote. Erika whispering again...something that Jack said the boys would regret the most. Rob saying that Ali had told them she was with them to the end, but then she f***ed them, of course. He says again that Justin told them to get Erika with them and he was right. Erika saying she doesn't understand why he didn't come to her last week. He says he was afraid she would say something to Jack and it would get to Jun or Ali and everything would blow up. Erika says he should have come to her last week. Rob says I am coming to you this week and we are in a good position. Rob tells her what it comes down to is she is going to win something...she will go to the finals. He is asking her to keep him in then in return. Erika gives him her word that she will keep him in. Tells her to tell the other girls she doesn't know which way she is going. Tell Ali that Rob threatened her...whatever she wants to say to get her vote. Rob says he likes Erika as a person...could not be doing this if he did not genuinely like her. They have given their words to each other to pick each other to take to the final two if this works out. Erika says she is going to sleep on it as to which one of the girls should go first. Rob says he is open to it. But he would rather see Ali leave first as they have a better chance against Jun. Erika says it really depends on the competition and who knows what it will be. She doesn't know which one should be put out first. Rob says they have to win the f***ing Veto. Erika gets up and says she will send in Alison now. Rob says wait, he wants to tell her something. Says remember yesterday when you said you missed sex? Erika laughs and opens the door to go out. They say something else which I missed, but seems to be just kidding around. Erika leaves room now to get Ali. (ed - sorry if I messed this up...no time to edit) |
Kalihiwahine | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:03 am     Erika in HOH room w/ Rob... he is explaining to her about his alliance w/ Jee & Justin... telling her why he had to vote her out twice but it wasn't personal... says he has already told the guys (bb)in there what he's going to do... he wants to get alison out because it's going to be harder for him & erika IF alison stays because she is very competitive... telling erika he wants to be final 3 with her & jun ... ali, nate, jun & jack will vote for erika he says... says that dana is pissed at him... r: talking his strategy with her... basically what i'm saying is i want to go to final 2 with you, that's why I want alison out this week... he wants to talk w/ jun... asks erika if she is with him and this is how he feels... he feels that he can "kill" ali... wants to know what erika wants to do... what does she (erika) think ... he is scared about if ali gets hoh next week... he really feels that he & erika can get hoh next week... ali is physically & mentally... he feels that ali is here only for the money ... robt saying that he understands how erika feels that she wants jun out first... he keeps telling her to just tell him how he feels.. she asks what did jee tell him to do... he is telling erika that ali told him to walk out yesterday... he was already feeling bad and feels that it was a scummy thing for her to do (to tell him he could lv)... he doesn't want to take ali to finals and she would beat him... erika is asking him isn't jun your biggest threat?... he says yes... but what do you think? so you want to go to finals with ali? I don't want to tell them (girls) anything. We can win together. I don't want to go out of here with nothing. I'm thinking we get ali out... in the finals if it's you, jun & me, you're going to want to take me out... erika says she doesn't know... robt says that he told jee that he can be fair with erika... them (jun&ali) cannot win... justin told me... please just don't let them (ali&Jun) go to finals rob keeps talking if one of us wins, will you take me with you... you don't have to answer me right now... what i'm saying is my goal here is that 2 chances for the final... if we agree on this ... you have a fat chance of winning this... r: if you want to agree but whatever we just have to win... if ali wins next week and she takes me out next week... (he keeps saying) "what I'm saying is if we win, I want you to take me... we'll be fine after all this... we know each other, i look at it both ways... if i was selfish, i would say ok i'll go with ali... with ali it's all or nothing, she wants the 500 thousand... i'm not saying all this because i want you to go with me... if you win first and i win second, i would be so frea(n happy... erika: so you want ali out this week robt: when they come in, i'll tell them(A&J) look you guys are the strongest players in the house and I'll get smoked by you and be killed by you but i don't know who I want up robt saying that he has nathan, justin & jee. (votes).. that erika has a good chance too erika has just told robt that she & ali have an agreement to not put each other up... robt is telling her all the reasons he is against ali... that ali will f(k erika and ali is evil ..and that justin told him to keep erika... robt saying that even if he boots ali up, ali will vote for erika in the finals ... he is telling erika that he is not threatening her but if she (erika) does not go along with his proposal about getting ali out, he'll just go with ali if that's what erika wants... r: you will fr(n regret it if you go with ali... justin told us not to... it's meant for ali to leave this week... i'm cool if you want jun to leave, i'll help you with it... think about how nice it will be if we win the fr(n money... you played the game best and we're mature... erika asks robt if he is going to tell jun that he wants to put ali up and he says yes... but wants erika to let him know if she is ok with his plan... keeps going over how everybody and justin told him that ali would f(k them over... dana wouldn't even do this... robt: i don't want to put you up ... i feel that's the right thing... i am NOT going to regret if we go to the finals and i don't win... i want you think about it and be honest erika: i agree with you... i want alison to go too... she choked today... take alison this week. robt: it's a girl thing... she won't vote for me... erika telling robt that jack said that the boys are going to regret not taking alison out... he keeps repeating what justin told him about getting erika on the guys side... erika keeps saying i don't know why you didn't come talk to me.. robt says that he didn't know what side she was on... r: tell me how you feel.. e: i wish you had come to me last week r: it's you and me... you're going to win anyway... you will go to finals... it's going to be you, me and ali OR you, me and jun... he wants her word... erika: ok you have it... convo continues but erika still thinking about getting jun out... (ed. i don't think any final decision has been made... gotta post) (ed. posting) |
Wisgal | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:05 am     Rob & Erica: Rob:Nothing personal...Justin & Jee felt you were stronger,and I agreed it was you and not Jack that's why you were the target. So,this is what I want to propose to you,so we make it to the finals. We have a 50 percent chance of making this week. To be you ,me & Jun as the final 3. You and I have a good chance to beat Jun for the HOH. I don't want to see anybody else win the money,cause you have played your ass off.I want you in the end with me. Tell me your thoughts and what you want.If you don't want me in the end or don't it's ok. Erica:I don't think we can beat Jun.Why do you think we can't beat Ali? Rob:Because Ali is so good at the physical competitions,not just mental.She's such an evil .She told me to walk out anytime.So I have a personal thing against her.Have her smole me in the end. Erica:Wouldn't Jun be a bigger threat? Rob: What do you think? You want to go to the end with Ali?I don't care if you win the final,but,I really want to go to the end with you.In the finals it could be either of us. I told Jee if you think she played a better vote for her.(Erica) What do you think the final competition is gonna be? Okay,I'll go your way,we'll put Jun out.(now at this point Erica has not said hardly a word) Our chances are really good,if Ali wins and you guys take me out ok.If you win take me with you. If I want to be selfish,I'd rather win half and have you win 500,000,just so ali is out of the money.Of you did win 1st,I'd be so happy for you.You've worked so hard for your mom,you deserve it. (Erica can not get in a word)Rob is like reading her mind. If I do go out...you got my vote,Justin,Jee,Jack,& Nate. Erica: I promised Ali,and she voted for me to stay,I owe her. Rob:Trying to convince her to vote out Ali...if you want Jun out ok.. Think about how nice it would be if we won this money.Don't think for a second that she cares a Fu$k about you.If you want me out just be honest with me. Justin said don't do anything with Ali,she can't be trusted. I don't want to put you up,I want to keep you safe.I'm not going to regret for a second taking you to the finals even if you win. Erica:If Jun or I get to the finals we'll take you along.Jack and I didn't understand why You & Jee didn't use the Veto to put up Ali .It would have left 4 strong people in the house.I wish you would have come to me last week. Rob:you,me Jun...Finals....you win me,Ali you...you win. You can say whatever you want to them to save their vote in the end,tell them I threatened you.I like you as a person.I want you in the finals. Erica: I'll do it!!....what about the veto?....well let me sleep on it.... I don't know what one I want out first.What if the next HOH is cognitive,Jun is good at that. Rob: I nevr thought of that.That's why I need you.You know those things....Okay....we'll talk more. Erica leaves HOH room....I'll send in the next one. |
Jdel | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:08 am     Erika lays down with jun and tells jun to go talk to him. jun says what does it matter? who does he want out. erika tells her he wants ali out. jun perks up a little. erika - you can't tell ali about this. jun - I think the HOH does have the power this week it's all in the veto. Erika - come down here a second - I know ideally everybody wants to take ali to the finals. ...he wants her out. jun- nobody really wants her to go to the finals and think she can live that way. erika - then lets take her out this week. jun- says that neither of them can be afraid to do it. Would you rather be up against her or be the voter? Erika - says it doesn't matter. Jun - you know how she is she'll fight for that veto. Erika - I know. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:08 am     Alison in bed, Jun in bed, Erika yelling something.. Robert waits nervously in HOH.. Not sure if she is supposed to send one of them in.. Erika says he wants to talk to all of us, don't know if you want to wait until tomorrow. Jun sounds tired says not sure if there is a reason.. Ali leaps out of bed and goes to HOH. Erika is saying over and over, to Jun, go talk to him, go talk to him. In HOH, Robert tells Ali that he's just happy someone is going.. Erika isn't going to go up.. I don't have a specific person. I think the strongest F-ing player is YOU. Ali says ME?? Sounds pleased, oh really?? Oooh.. Jun is but think you are a bigger threat. I think whoever leaves this week is meant to be but you are strong, so don't wonder why you are going up. Ali says, Robert there are three people left, it doesn't matter who goes up, because there is the veto. Robert says wants to be honest with you.. not telling Erika to do sh!t.. Ali is honored, flattered, makes me happy, yeah I am a big threat, I can make it to finals and I won't have the votes, have pissed off a lot of people.. she lists off the names. Ali says.. if I go against Erika.. Jee will vote for Erika, Dana, Jack, only needs to be one more vote.. you (he says he is going by game_), Jun, very likely, and Nathan, who is so mad at me.. he blames me for him leaving... (ed making her play) Says Dana and Jee will vote for Jun. Robert says no he wouldn't Erika would, Justin.. says Justin hates Jun.. Ali says Justin is fair.. Ali thinks the best chance she has is against Jun. Robert says you are still here, there is a reason you are here. Whoever wins HOH next week is DONE, they win something. (ed. fingers getting tired, carpal tunnel) Ali says she is going out for the veto.. |
Jdel | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:16 am     Erika - I've given ali my word that I'll take her but I'll break it - I hate to do that but I'll break it - I'd rather see people that played. jun - if she wins the veto and we're both up there than we're f'd. jun and erika talking about the earlier talk with Rob - jun saying that ali was saying that erika and rob must have an alliance. Eriaka saying that she never talked to him. erika telling jun that jee and justin told robert to go to erika if he stays and they go. Erika - it's really unfair because you couldn't win HOH this week. What do you think about the ali situation. Jun - I think that she's more pissed at you than rob right now because he won HOH. Erika - what do you think honestly. We have to pray for that veto. (yawning) I'm guilty by association? I'm not going to burn the bridge. jun - says ali came to the BR and says she's in there now. what do you expect he'll want to talk to everyone. erika - I was really surprised that he wanted ali out. ... so that's the update. Erika back up. |
Watcher | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:16 am     Alison has entered the HOH room now. He is telling her that he doesn't really have a person to go...he doesn't care which one goes first. Says of course Erika isn't going up. Ali says she knows. Rob tells Ali she is the strongest player in the house so don't wonder why you go up. Ali says Robert, there are only 3 people left...I know. Rob says he is not telling Erika to do s**t...she can do whatever she wants. Alison says she is very flattered that he thinks she is a strong player and a big threat. Says she knows that if she makes it to the finals, she won't have the votes anyhow. If she goes against Erika, Jee has told her flat out that he will vote for Erika. Dana will vote for Erika...Jack will. More than likely, Jun will vote for Erika. Says Nathan is so mad at her for not getting Justin out, that he will vote for Erika. Says the only chance she would have would be to go up against Jun. But it's too late...says she has d***ed herself...she has p*ssed off a lot of people. Ali tells him that he should know that she is going all out for that Veto. Rob knows that. Says if she goes to the end...then it was meant to be. Ali says it is going to take a h*ll of a lot to get her out. She doesn't just want to be the final four. Rob says next week it's like if you don't win HOH, you are out or you are second. Ali says she is not mad at Rob...she is fine with going up on the block. It's cool. It's a fun game. And she is going for that Veto. Ali saying that she told Jun that she wanted her out and Jun told her that's fine...I want you out, too. Rob laughs. Ali says she is a smart girl. Made everyone of us happy....knew what was going on in every part of the house....the kitchen is the center of everything. She was smart. Ali is asking if Rob is going for the Veto. Rob says he doesn't even care. Ali says next week if you leave two strong girls in the house, it's going to get catty. You know that's how we are. Says Rob is in one h*ll of a position this week. Rob says he isn't going for the Veto...it doesn't matter who goes to him. Ali says there are no weak players left...none. Rob agrees. Ali says don't worry, it will be fun. It will be cool. Rob and she both think it's fair to have another POV. They say it is even more important than HOH. Ali says the person that wins the VETO this week will be staying. The girl that leaves will hate them. Now is the time that you have no choice but to think of the final votes. (lost RP) |
Seamonkey | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:16 am     Ali blustering that she is going all out to get the veto.. wants not to just get to final four. Robert says this week you don't have the chance, but next week.. win hoh, or be second or whatever.. Ali does not want to be sequestered with these people. Robert says only a week. Ali says giving Robert fair warning, but not mad at him. Fine with it. Robert says could have been me, but I'm here. Ali says cool, fun game.. and and I'm getting the F-ing veto. Robert says Jun wants you out Ali flat out lies and says she and Jun each told the other they want each other out.. (ed. Ali and Jun just assured each other of their alliance earlier) Robert thought they had a thing. Ali says last week she told Erika they should target Jun instead of Robert (ed .. this is true) Ali now says Jun played a brilliant game AND cooked.. the smartest person (ed. laying it on THICK!!) Robert says he's not going for veto, doesn't need it. Ali says if you leave two F-ing strong girls in the house they get catty will go for each other, that's how we are.. You are in an awesome position... He says if he didn't win HOH he'd be on the block next.. Ali says probably. Now Ali riffs into only 4 people left, no weak players, none. Cool, can't wait, fun, don't worry, it'll be good. Robert says it really is fair to have veto. Ali says yeah, at first she was really upset. It is more power than HOH, you are immune and can vote out the person. The person who gets veto this week, they vote out a girl, break the alliance.. that voted out girl will HATE the one who voted them out. The only good position is be on the block, but stay, so you didn't vote out the other.. Robert says you're right. Ali says game within a game, cool but really hard, that's fine, whatever. That girl who gets the veto.. saying go for it.. Robert says I don't care, don't care.. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:19 am     Robert joking about jinx of wanting Erika out, decided not to try.. Ali giggles that maybe that is the way to get people out. Ali is tired as sh!t.. do you want Jun in here, she's in bed. Robert says he'll talk to her tomorrow.. Robert goes to the DR. |
Spooky974 | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:19 am     Alli comes in. R-Trying to say that I don't know what I want to do. I'm not going to lie, I'm not putting Erika up. A-We know. R- You are the biggest threat in the house A-Really. R- Physically, mentally, you have been one of the strongest power. Justin, Jee and I all said you were one of the strongest player. A- Awww. R- It's the final three and I think you are a good player. They are going over who would vote for Erika against Alli because Alli says she doesn't have the votes. She thinks the only person she may have a chance with is Jun. R-You are still here. You have a chance. I don't care how much I get money wise. A-I just want you to know i'm going for the Veto, it will take an army to get me to not get that veto. R-That's fine, I knew you would and good luck. If you get it, then hopefully Jun's gone. Talking about chances of winning depends on who wins HOH next week. A-I don't want to be sequestered with these people. I'm not mad, I'm trying to get to the end. R-Jun wants you out, right. A-Yeah, we talk about we told each other we want each other out. R-That's so funny. I thought you guys had an alliance. A-NO no I told Erika that I wanted Jun out. She's a huge threat. She's a brilliant girl. She's smart as sh$t. She didn't just stay in the kitchen cooking, she was watching and listening to everything. R-That's why I'm saying I don't care. A-Are you going to try for the veto, because you should just let us duke it out then. R- Yeah, yeah. I don't care who goes next week, it just gets me closer. They are talking about veto having more power than the HOH since they get to decide who goes out. A-The girl that votes out the one, is f@@ked because they are going to piss off the one they voted off. They only one that is safe is the one who is up that isn't voted off. You really dont' want to go for R-No i'm not. I don't care. A-You don't have an alliance with Erika R-No I don't. R-I just decided that I'm not going to put up Erika if she made it through again. I jsut figured it wasn't mean to be if she didn't go. Alli leaves. |
Jdel | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:19 am     ...robert says he's not going after Erika this week - he's gone after twice and it didn't happen so I decided last week that if she doesn't go I'm not even going to do it. ali laughs. and leaves - asks if he should send jun in and thinks she's sleeping. |
Spooky974 | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:28 am     (ed. Sorry if I misspelled some words on my post. I was trying to keep up with the talking and it was very difficult.) |
Jdel | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:28 am     ali telling girls - says ali is really strong and jun is really smart and erika he's done trying to get her out. and he was really sweet and that's about it. ...ali - he says he doesn't care about the veto as long as it's not him. I knew he was going to put me up but I didn't think anything about it. It sucks. I feel really bad. Did he tell you who he wants gone (to erika). Erika says no - that it didn't really matter because of the veto. ali - guess all we can do is wait for the veto. erika asks jun if she's going to talk to him - ali jumps in with he said I could send you in if I wanted but he could talk to you tomorrow. jun says then she'll talk to him in the morning. I think it was erika - this veto thing really sucks. ali - I had prayed please let the angels each have their own bed. jun - the f'n DR - what happened to the angels? you know what sucks for him - he doesn't have any of the boys to celebrate HOH with. (they giggle). ali - goodnight my beautiful angels. Erika - I'm sorry I didn't win tonight guys. Ali - me too but we'll survive it's ok. ...erika - I need a sedative - like some strong medication to sedate me right now. ali - are your ear plugs in? erika - no. I was supposed to have the HOH room. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:29 am     Ali telling Jun and Erika that he said he doesn't care who leaves as long as it is one of us, said all three of us are really strong, I'm a big threat, Jun super smart (ed. no ALI said that), and erika he's done trying to get rid of you.. Robert is in WC now. Erika's whispering so low, cannot hear anything. Maybe audio went to Robert, switching.. Erika says doesn't really matter because of the veto. Ali says he doesn't even care, as long as it isn't him, he's cool.. Ali sounding casual.. she knew she'd be going up.. Erika's body language looks more tense. Can't see Jun on this feed. Jun says Mexican is hard for her to digest.. she sounds really tired. Ali asks Erika if he told her who he wants gone, she says no, doesn't really care, doesn't matter.. And the veto. Ali says that's cool, all we can do is wait for the veto. Erika tells Jun she should go talk to Robert (ed. bet she wanted to talk to Ali alone) but Ali says Robert said it was fine if they waited til morning. Jun says she'll wait til morning Ali wants something that Jun has, no idea.. Ali crawls into bed after drinking some liquid. Jun said I thought we wouldn't be sleeping next to either of you.. Ali says yeah we thought each girl would have her own bed. Jun says the DR was sarcastic, so what happened to the ANGELS, turn into DEVILS? Jun says what sucks is that Robert doesn't have any of his boys to enjoy HOH with, they all laugh.. <go to sleeeeeep... I must also go to sleeeep... go to sleep you F-ing Angels> Erika says sorry I didn't win tonight, guys. Ali says it is ok, we'll survive (ed. only two of you) Erika feels nauseous. Jun sighs. Erika: I need a sedative. Ali asks if her earplugs are in? No. Erika says I was supposed to have that HOH room. Whispers F-ing 7 hours. ed. I'm going to sleep, no matter what they do.
out! (hope Robert is dancing to his CD in HOH) |
Seamonkey | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:31 am     Suddenly Jun says she doesn't think the evicted people see the competitions, just meetings.. asked in DR.. did they know that I went to the VMA's Why you asking? Jun said just in case some spiteful people.. they said they'd get back to her.. they said whoever was leaving this week, Jee would probably tell them about it, which made her think that maybe they don't see the competitions. Erika hasn't asked about that. |
Watcher | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:35 am     Ali says she wants that Veto more than ANYthing. She needs this Veto. Says you really don't think you are going for it? Rob says no, I don't think I am. I don't have an alliance with anyone. Ali says not even with Erika? Rob says no, I never did. Ali says Dana thought that he and Erika had an alliance. Rob says no and he told himself that if she is still here, he isn't going to worry about it. (not sure I caught it right) (missing some) Ali gets up now and conversation has ended...both leave room. Alison goes to bedroom where Erika and Jun are...talking about her talk with Rob...says he doesn't really care which one goes. Says Rob is putting her and Jun up tomorrow. He told her they are all really strong. He thinks she (Ali) is a big threat. Basically just bulls**t about if he didn't win HOH, he knows he would have been gone. Ali says Rob says he could send Jun in now if she wanted to talk or they could just talk in the morning. Jun says she will just talk in the morning. Jun says you know what sucks? That Rob doesn't have any of the boys to enjoy HOH with. Laughing. Ali says that is awesome. Girls are all tucked in bed in the Love Room. Erika is sleeping with Jun...Ali is in other bed. Rob is lying on his HOH bed now, re-reading the note he received from home in his HOH goodie basket. Girls are quiet now, but still restless. Now Rob turned out the lights in HOH room. Climbs into bed and puts on a CD to listen to with the headphones. (and...last post for me...goodnite) |
Kalihiwahine | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:41 am     f1: alison in bed f2: robt in hoh room, not asleep yet, as he keeps moving his arm upright f3: erika & jun in same bed, erika says: I can't sleep, too anxious, she gets out of bed, says she's nauseous... ali tells her take some pepto... f4: same as f1 as soon as erika leaves room, ali sits up and asks jun if she believes erika... thinks something is up... then ali goes to kitchen area to make sure that erika didn't go to hoh room... they talk in dining area and we get foth (ed. glad so many were posting the convo w/ erika & robt in hoh...talking so fast that i'm sure i missed a lot...goodnite folks..) |
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