Archive through July 17, 2003
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July 17, 2003 - Day 13 - Food Challenge - Erika & Michelle nominated:
Archive through July 17, 2003
Seamonkey | Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 10:56 am     Dana leaves, Ali appears to be asleep, Jun covers face with sheet. Quad. Jack and Erika.. Jack says no one ate much yesterday (ed. dinner??) Jack loses weight in his legs, says his legs so weak, probably down 12 or more lb. Erika says she loses it in upper chest, already too skinny.. Dana is out with them.. Justin also on the couches.. Dana standing up. Justin says his stomach is knotted up. jack says thinks that is what's happening to Michelle.. Dana looks skeptical,says "it was venison".. the others say no.. it was nasty.. Dave tried all the dishes and said that one was really bad. (ed. is Dana blaming Michelle for the failure). Justin says some things you knew they wouldn't use.. Jack says shark is too expensive. Dana left and went back to bed. Jack was worried about liver and he did get it, he remembers Marc gagging on the chickn livers last year. Justin says Jun's was horrible, the tongue, but they all say Junn was methodical and knows foods. Erika says she's gonna wash her face and go to sleep. Justin and Jack say, yeah, good idea, all three get up. Jun/Ali/Dana all in bed now. Pretty sure Nate, Mich, Robert, Jee also off cam resting and they thing Dave is already in bed. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 11:03 am     I'm off now.. One cam is on turtles, now turtle room.. other panning around orange room Erika says "I hear people. I hear dead people" Erika says did you hear what Dana said. Dana said she can eat all she wants this week to Robert (says Dave) said about Erika.. as if Erika going home? Jack says he pulled his back again sometime yesterday, getting real tight, didn't do much.. scissors.. Erika says that will do that.. do Abs with legs down and just do upper body.. Jack loaded on advil.. says if he gets down can't get up, the hot tub should have helped.. but he'll rest it today. Dana appears asleep now.. so only the turtles are active.. one is looking at the camera.. Dave says he doesn't care about eating. Jack says nothing bothers you, Dave. Dave says not true. Jack had said that next week it could be Jack and Erika not eating. Both Jack's and Erika's stomachs chime in with growls.. OK, I'm out now.. |
Lostintheglades | Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 11:46 am     BB time 11:38 - all 4 cams on backyard. Then Feed 1 shows Jun up, stops in hall to adjust microphone and then goes to storage room. Looks in fridge. Michelle is in kitchen and says something to Jun and then heads outside. Jun has a loaf of bread, puts in in the toaster and heads into the LR...turns around and goes back to the kitchen. Gets some water and is making tea. Nothing very interesting here... Michelle just came back in and is walking through the house. Did not say anything to Jun. Jun head to the bathroom, enters WC,come out (Ed. does not wash hands.) and heads back to the kitchen. Michelle is laying in the sun outside. Jun is having PB & J on toast. (ed. I think she's allowed to eat.) Everyone else is sleeping. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 11:56 am     Mich on floatie.. says she has to do laundry today. Jun is ok on laundry, not practicing throwing the rubber ducks. (wild but better than she did the other day by far..) |
Grannyg | Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 12:22 pm     Jack, Justin, Dana in kitchen Justin fixing PB&J. Dana says it too hot outside. Jack asking Michelle how she is feeling. She said ok. They all look ragged out. Tired. Jee comes out and tells Jack they have to leave the lights on when they take a nap in the desert room. Jack says they know that but just forgot. Sorry. Jee says that's ok he just had to say that. Not much going on. Listenig will post if things start happening
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Grannyg | Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 12:23 pm     Nate, Jee, Robert in HOH Nate wants to tell Michele about the plan. Jee stills wants Ericka out. FOTH |
Grannyg | Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 12:31 pm     Jee has been in that situation before and it's not good. Sometimes they pawn is not the one safe. Nate wants to know how Jee feels about Dana. No he doesn't trust her but he thinks they should not rock the boat right now. Dana comes in and she wants to know what is going on. Jee is gonna go talk to Michelle right now. Dana goes to get Michelle. Robert is still telling Jee what to do and how to do it. Jee says he will do it by himself. Now justin is in. Justin and Robert are going to tell somebody about the deal of not using veto. Jee wants Michelle to know that she is a sweet girl but he is considering putting her as a pawn. Jee is gonna talk to Jack and David about booting ericka. He is telling her they will not pull off ericka. Jee says this is just possible and he didn't want her shocked by it. Jee really is laying it on thick about what a sweet girl she is. Michelle ask is there anyone else to put up? Lost sound. Posting.......... |
Grannyg | Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 12:38 pm     sound back Jee just wanted her to know the plan. don't take it that he wants her to go because he doesn't. Jee wants to know if she is ok. Michelle turned her head the other way. She is crying. She doesn't want to be put up and she is scared. Jee is covering every single loop hole to make sure she is ok. Sound going in and out. Jee doesn't think she has anything to worry about. It's not for certain but it is a possiblity. Jee says it could happen to any one here to be a pawn at one time or another. Jee knows how it feels to be on the block. Michelle is still whining and crying. She can't change Jee's mind she knows that. Jee is trying to make her feel better about the nom. Michelle wants to know why he has to use her. Jee thinks it's becasue she is so sweet and no one would vote her out. The only way things could go wrong is if Ericka wins the veto. Jee already has people working on people not to use the veto if they win it. Michelle wants to know what happens if she wins the veto. Jee says he will have to put someone up from the dark side. Jee is trying to think of every situation and work things out. Jee is going over to the dark side to assure that she will not go. Michelle doens't like to think of being used as a pawn. She doens't understand why he can't take any of her suggestions. Jee understands that but he has talked to several people and they felt the same way that there would be no way michelle would be voted out that ericka would go unamiously. And if ericka wins the veto then he will pick someone else from the dark side. She thinks he is taking everyone else's suggestion but will not listen to her. feed went to outside changing feeds. |
Grannyg | Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 12:39 pm     real player crashed. have to reboot. |
Ryn | Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 12:40 pm     Michelle has obviously been crying a bit - Jee is trying re-assure her.
Jee keeps exlaining that the odds of Erika getting POV are less than 10% and if she is veto'd he will have to put up someone from the "dark side" (Jack or Dave) Cam switches to outside where nothing is going on - then the kitchen where we see jack leaning on the counter..... (ed - grrr) rp crashed - posting.... |
Ryn | Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 12:44 pm     Robert comes in the room - michelle has left. Robert says he told David the situation - told him that he would be safe if he promised not to use the veto and that he (robert) Justin and Jee are safe if you get HoH next week. Robert says someone is working on jack right now. they leave the room. Jee heads to the bathrrom and Nathan and Ali asked how it went. He gives them the details. then goes to the bathroom. |
Ryn | Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 12:47 pm     Jack and Justin playing cards - not talking. I guess Justin was the one asked to tell jack the plan. (ed - RP has been giving me fits) Justin starts to now explain to Jack that if jack uses the veto Jee will have to put up Dave. Justin says - so Jee thinks it will be in your best interest not to get the veto or to not use it. Jack says "I don't think it will be used." |
Grannyg | Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 12:48 pm     Justin and Jack playing cards. Justin is talking to Jack about the veto. Jack is understanding what Justin is saying. Not get the veto or not use it. back to just playing cards. changing cams to BR |
Ryn | Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 01:09 pm     HGs are being called to the DR one after one. Jee tells Robert "you have to console Michelle for me" Jee - smoking out back - tells Nathan to come to the DR in a bit and then have every alliance member come by one by one. Nathan, Robert, Alison and Jee were out back. Nathan heard to DR. Jee & Nathan in DR. Jee - planning more - worried about Erika getting the veto. I THINK he says worst case - he might have to put up Dana if the veto does not go right. I think Jee is worried that someone might Veto Michelle. Jee, Justin, Robert, Nathan and Alison are in the "alliance" as far as Jee is concerned. Nahtan agrees that if Michelle gets veto'd they will put up Dana - because she is 'flaking out' Feed just died..... re-started.... Nathan says he not gonna say anything to anyone - he wants Jee to talk to everyone. Jee and Nathan both agree that Dana is getting on their nerves. Nathan leaves - Robert enters. Jee - 'if erika pulls herself out - we will have to put up Dana' Robert agrees. Jee says he is gonna feel bad because he promised her she is safe. Robert says if she goes up - she is gone - and she won't be in the end vote (ed - robert is always very concerned about the final vote). (rp has crashed AGAIN - I still have audio though - waiting for a break). Robert says he thinks its a great plan. Both agree not to let Jun know. After more discussions they don't want to let Alison know (guess she is the odd-person out of the aliance). Jee runs the numbers on who can vote how. |
Ryn | Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 01:14 pm     Jee is VERY VERY concerned - Robert has left but Jee is talking to himself - hoping he does not have to put up Dana. All I have is audio - sounds like Jee is still in the HoH room. Feed changes to the bathroom - sounds like Alison and Jack....maybe kitchen (posting and trying to fix my prob - again.) |
Seamonkey | Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 01:16 pm     I saw Jee on 4 feeds (two had his girlfriend's picture) but now I've lost the feeds. |
Ryn | Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 01:18 pm     Jee and Justin (going by voices). Justin agrees with the plan...... Robert comes in - says Erika is telling Alison that she is next - that justin will put her up. Alsion went to robert and robert told her Justin has never wanted her out. Robert sys Jee & Justin needs to re-assure Alison. Jee is re-hasing everything with Justin - nothing really new. (ed - I am calling REAL - can't do feeds while I am) |
Seamonkey | Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 01:29 pm     Jee says Nathan is cool, Jee says it was a mistake to give Dana that word that she is safe this week. Justin chews gum in his mic, maye it was Jee.. Jee says Michelle is whining and upset.. Justin says she is young.. Jee says yes but come ON.. Jun is going to do tacos. Jee is out in kitchen too.. they seem to talk now.. Jee is telling them what cold cuts they have. Oooh bananas and grapes and eggs, oh my!! Apple too. Robert is saying if he could eat tuna or sandwiches, he'd be fine. Dave is outside practicing tossing duckies. Someone else is out there.. Jack.. Dave says they are molding all of us to do what they want. Jack says he's already agreed that if they put up Michelle and Erika, Jack won't use veto. Jack says he made sure Michelle would be up, if not he has no deal. He also thinks Dave can just not deal with them, then Dave is free to use POV. Dave says oddly they didn't ask him to vote for Erika to go.. did they mention that to Jack?? Dave thinks that maybe they forgot, just assumed all would vote out Erika. Jack.. this gets cover for Justin another week.. Dave says, for Nate as well. Jack has already agreed.. Dave says he won't agree.. What is better -- definitely having Michelle go out, or.. who else are they approaching.. Jack says it is divide and conquor.. Dave is worried that they are slapping deals on everyone. Ask someone in hammock.. Ali? Ali says yes they approached her too.. she claims she just said she'd talk to Jee, and that she won't vote Erika out (this is what she told Jack). Now Dana is out there too.. so they stop. (Jack seems to think it is Michelle who is targetted?? ) Now Ali is spilling to Dana that Robert approached Jack ("them") with a deal.. Dana acts sort of surprised.. Ali says she doesn't know what the deal is Says that is all Jack said. Some thing (compeition) is at 4 or 5pm they say.. Dave still practicing his duck throwing. All feeds outside. Ali went inside for food. |
Grannyg | Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 01:30 pm     jack, dave and ali were talking about the deals being thrown out. jack said they are trying to divide and conquer. dave doesn't understand why they think they have a lock on this. dana comes out and talking stops. ali tells dana that robert came to dave and jack with a deal and dana said no he didn't and ali said yes he did. posting and trying to fix real player. |
Ryn | Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 01:45 pm     Granny - check the tech discussion area - I think I have a band-aid Dave is in with Robert and Jee in the HoH - Dave is saying he is not sure he agrees with the plan - jee is not happy - Jee is saying its the best move for him and Jack to follow the plan he suggested. |
Prisonerno6 | Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 01:47 pm     Michelle crying in back yard. Dave tells her not to worry, he's working on something. Asks her if they told her she would be put up against Erika, she says yes. Dave double nostril picking in pore cam "Erika, please go to the diary room." Dave tells Jee he's not going in on this thing. Needs to talk to Jee. D has good offer for you to stay in the house. Jee syas you shouldn't have done that because you gave your word. Dave says no he didn't. Jee walks away from him. Jee in Robert in HOH. Jee saying he can't trust Dave. Jee said Dana asked if Jee made deal with Jack. Dave says Dana in paranoid. Dave tries to explain his position on deal with getting Erika out. Says he's thinking about it. Explained when he was told about it, he said didn't agree, said sounds good, he'd think about. Thought about it, talked to Jack, doesn't want to do it. Going with deal, Dave protects, Jee, Robert, Justin. Thought Dana was in complete cahoots with them. Jee says no. Alison told Jee Ronert made deal with Jack -- Dave says she could be effing with them. Saw people talking, trying to see what's going on. Jee keeps tellking Dave deal is best with him. Eriks is going regardless, why shouldn't he protect himself. Jee whining about strategizing as HOH. Jee wants Dave's decision before nominations. Dave says he will talk to Jack again, Jack's a funny, guy, tries to be sneaky, doesn't give anything out. Robert syaing something, can't make it out. Dave talks about someone playing the game to hard. Syas he will talk to Jack again. |
Kuchi | Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 01:50 pm     because real player is messing up I cant catch all the convo but jee and robert and pressing their deal on dave. he said he will let them know before the nominations but not making a deal at this time. he wants to talk to jack. they tell him that jack agreed. dave leaves and jee tells robert they are screwed as ali and dana are messing things up. jee said that rob and justin and he should not have said anything.....now they are screwed with everyone in the house. now cams switched to nate jack and dave in bathroom but hard to hear.....sorry nate said they think i am going to vote erika out. dave said we should not agree to vote erika off..... |
Ryn | Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 01:50 pm     Dave is going to talk to Jack - jee wants it all figgured out before Noms. Dave leaves HoH room - Feed goes to pool. now Bathroom - Jack, Nathan and Dave talking. Dave and Nathan and Jack seem to have their own little thing going. They say they want Veto...... Jack seems to be saying they messed up because they made a deal with jack. (ed - I can't keep track of this) - Nathan is saying something about voting michelle off. Nahtan Jee, Erika, Michelle going for the veto..... Nathan says "they think I am gonna vote Erika off.... (ed - so did I.. oops) |
Ryn | Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 01:52 pm     Bathroom The three are talkign about what they said - jack says he didn't say not to use the veto - he only agreed not to put the three up if he got HoH Erika joins them..... |
Prisonerno6 | Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 01:52 pm     Now Dave, Nate, Jack are talking. Cna't make out what they are saying. Dave says they think he told Allie everything because hse knows. Jack should say he didn't say anything to Allie. Jack's deal is if they put Erika up with Michelle he won't go after them if he wins HOH. Nate asks if we vote Michelle out, is everyong OK with that. Talk about going for POV. Dave says others are a small groups, trying to get more people on their side. Erika will be with us to the end. Can trust Erika. Nate; best case scenairo, Erika or Michelle gets veto. Nate thinks he can still convince them to put Dana up against Erika. Erika joins convo in bathroom. Jee and Robert in HOH. |
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