Archive through July 14, 2003
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July 14, 2003 - Day 10 - Much plotting - HGs get Hula Hoops:
Archive through July 14, 2003
Prisonerno6 | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 10:07 am     Oops, just as a posted Jun got up. Someone asked her to see what time it was. After checking the time, she goes into the bathroom. Now Erika gets up and there is some movement from Jack. Erika has her Mike, looks into bathroom, sees it's occupied and heras to kitchen. Now she goes back to the bathroom again and sits down, apparently waiting for it to be unoccupied. |
Prisonerno6 | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 10:12 am     Jun comes out, washes hands, says good morning to Erika as she goes into WC. Jun heads to kitchen, tries to go outside(?), but door seems to be locked. Goes back to bedroom. Erika done in bathroom, comes out to kitchen. Eventually goes back to bedroom. Some whispering with Jack that I can't make out. Everybody back in bed. |
Seamonkey | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 10:34 am     All feeds showing sleepers at present. |
Dipo | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 10:57 am     lots of banging around noises, but must all be the guys in the back yard. Everyone is still sleeping. |
Dipo | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 11:07 am     Jun is up, starting her morning ritual. |
Norm3000 | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 11:09 am     Yep we have action Jun is in the bathroom. She always seems to be the last one to bed and the first one up. |
Prisonerno6 | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 11:19 am     Jack is up as well. Brushing teeth at pore cam. Jun may be in WC. All others still in bed. Jack just went back to bed; said something to Erika. Jun still in bathroom, checking her butt out in mirror. Now shaving pits sans water or lotion in pore cam. Now in WC...with razor. |
Dipo | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 11:20 am     Jack was up, but just went back and layed down again. Quick flash of the work outside. Couldn't tell what it was. Jun checking herself out and headed towards kitchen but only made it as far as the mirror by the desert room. checked her pits and went back to shave them |
Prisonerno6 | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 11:25 am     Jun doing make-up in pore cam. Must have missed her washing her face. Back and forth between hall mirror and bathroom as she works on make-up. |
Ryn | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 11:27 am     Only Jun up and about.
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Prisonerno6 | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 11:33 am     They just got their morning wake-up call from Big Brother. |
Prisonerno6 | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 11:35 am     Jack in bathroom with shirt off washing up. June just walked by. Dana(?)is up and in kitchen with Jun. No movement from others. No talking. Dana now is WC, while Jack shaves and Jun putters in kitchen. |
Seamonkey | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 11:50 am     Erika still wearing the purple sweatshirt and dark glasses in the house. Dana swearing up a storm.. Now Dana and Erika in Storage room.. puzzled over a box, or no box. Jack up from bed (for about the 15th time. Dana getting the vaccuum out. Erika says she is sore. Erika hates to go DR for meds looking like "this". Jun complaining about all the glasses that no one else washes. And people gnowing chocolate off almonds, putting the almonds back in the container (ew). Erika basically said she can't worry about that. Jun still doing dishes. Erika pouring out a wine bottle and trashing it.. Dana, Jun and Erika washing up, cleaning up.. jack comes in to make coffee. Talk about trying to vaccuum shag carpet. BB: Good morning HG, time to get up for the day. Jun saying no one cares.. Dana or Erika agreeing. Jack just working on his coffee. Now think Erika is agreeing, she's using the windex on counters. They are still on lockdown. |
Norm3000 | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 11:50 am     QUAD CAM Cam 1: Jun and Dana, Jack working in the kitchen and complaining about dirty people and people who dont clean up. Cam 2: Same thing Cam 3 & 4: HG's still sleeping after awake up call. A second call just came in now and HG's other then thos 3 are still sleeping Soon Arnie might have to get a bell and ring it to wake them up. |
Prisonerno6 | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 11:50 am     Dana shoves Jack out of the way to put her contacts in. Jun doing dishes in kitchen. Jack picks up small mirror to finish shaving while Dana brushes teeth. Still no talking, no sign of others. Dana moves Jack aside again to rinse mouth and face. Erika comes out of desrt room with sunglasses on, joins Jack and Dana in bathroom. Dana now using mirror to check for Klingons in nostrils... Erika brushing teeth. Dana and Jun is kitchen complaining about effing something. (Had to up the volume on my speakers, so I missed some). Dana and Erika changing batteries. Dana comes out with vacuum. One of them complaining about being sore. Jun complains about all the effing glasses she has to wash and the almonds that had the chocolate sucked off them and then put back in container? Erika playing with cards. No movement from others despite wake-up call. Three girls are tidying up. Asking where Jack the Coffee man is. He comes back to make coffee. Another wake-up call. Jun says people don't listen around here. Dana says no one cares about mess or who made it or who cleaned it up. Someone wants Clorox wipes, as Erika cleans counters with Windex and paper towels (this commerical brought to you by our sponsors...) Asks if they are in lockdown. Jack and Dana discussing relative merits of using bottled or sink water for coffee and tea. |
Seamonkey | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 11:52 am     Ali gets up, gets batteries, wanders out. Others stirring. Erika still in sunglasse. Jun finds cracked mug, they decide it has to go. Michelle sitting up in bed. Dana mentions Nathan waking her and Jun up.. and how they thought it was Justin. Michelle in storeroom, Justin and Robert are up and yawning. |
Seamonkey | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 11:58 am     Jee still snoozing under the covers. And probably Amanda on her own feed. Jee is stretching, yawning. Cam switches to Nathan asleep in the round bed. Justin is incredulous to hear of nathan's late night activities, playing basketball with david, climbing in bed with Jun and Dana. Jee, still in bed, picks up the picture and looks at it.. can't tell, even with a feed closeup on it, but the other day when he was talking to himself, he did talk to a picture and call it Dad, so I assume he's talking to his dad who died for guidance. Lights on.. Jee is up, in red tank top, goes into storeroom for batteries. Amanda also woke up, someone teasing her for breaking curfew being up later than 3am. Jun talking to her, feed showing storeroom. |
Seamonkey | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 12:04 pm     Amanda and Nate only ones still in bed.. Someone asks Amanda what time she went to bed, 5??.. Robert has climbed into that bed and Amanda is out Robert says he waited to give her a massage. She's yawning and saying the sun came up, being vague. saying wasn't tired but now.. Robert is listening to her, he's in the bed. She wonders if there will be a competition, he says yes.. says he was up til 3:30. Robert says tough for Dave to get up, darka$$ room.. asks if Nate is up, says he'll wake Nate up. Robert now in storeroom getting his batteries. Quadcam: Dana, Jack, Storeroom: Amanda and ? going there in hopes of a convo.. too late.. OMG, Erika has the sunglasses on her head while she does her makeup!! I'm out for now. |
Ryn | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 12:19 pm     Robert and Erika talking outside.... Erika had said she was going to approach Robert and has apparently done so. Erika says is has just been weird, Robert says things are the same in here as they would be on the outside. Erika said you never apologized, Robert seems to dissagree. Robert says he won't forget all the things he did to her, he says he feels the same way. ..... Erika - I just though that... it doesn't really matter.... Robert - It doesn't really matter - its just a game. Erika - why were you nice to me the 1st day? R - I thought we could talk and now I see we can't. R - I don't want to pretend. R - what do you want to do? (ed - I am missing lots - sorry - catching the important part I hope) R - outside of this house we are not gonna be friends, inside the house we are not gonna both go to the end. R - right? the day we get out of this house we are never gonna talk again. I don't care if I go out of this house next week, I really don't care. E - i just don't want it to be uncomfortable, at the beginning it seemed it was gonna be ok, I tried to talk to you.... R - no you didn't E - about your alcoholism? I did too. ..... E - I just don't want in a group situation that I can't hang out.... R - you can - of course you can, you know that. R - you know you can, I would never do that, you'll see it in the tapes, I'm not like that....
posting - this is cam 3 |
Ryn | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 12:24 pm     R - its not like we are friends (ed they are both stumbling for words....) Robert says - its like amanda - her grieving - thats bullshiit - anyone can go - I could go based on who gets it (hoh) R - because of whats happened in the past - I know you can't like me, I wouldn't like me..... but I am not the same person... E - I know - and I am not asking for it - because we haven't been together for 3 years. R - of everybody in the house - I like it the least and so do you. E - I'd like to be not "high school" about it. they are talking calmly - just trying to discuss. R - all the ex's are different, we are the older people. the others are kids - they can't compare to what we had - I'm married, divorced He feels they were the only couple in the house that had a "real" relationship. not a high school sweetheart. |
Prisonerno6 | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 12:27 pm     Morning stuff going on. People inside tlaking about how it's only been a week. Robert and Erika are outside. Talking about relationship. Robert says they'll never be best friends. Erika says she's trying to be the better person. (Dang, feed keeps communciating...) Robert says he doesn't hate her. Understands if Robert isn't her favorite person. Says he isn't the same as he was, but he isn't going to prove it to her. E says that's not what she's looking for. Says it's been over three years. Trying to figure out why they are here together. E says she doesn't want to spend her time there not talking to him, be "not high school" about it. After pause, says something about exes being least affected about it. Both complaining about younger kids and "high school" talk. R says he's divorced, has a kid, doesn't care about 15 years old. THinks their situation is harder because they are older and relationship was real. E wipes away a tear. Says whole experience has been emotional. R asks why. E felt sorry for Scott, says she is compassionate, thought his behaviour was a cry for help. DOesn't condone behavior, says it wasn't right, didn't think it was a joke. R says he didn't care, but it affected whole house. E syas she feels like she's in a twilght zone. R agrees and understands. R syas none of it is real. E syas it is real human interaction, felt bad for Scott. It may be a game, but it's real human people in game. Came in to leanr about self and have a shot at winning some money. Not real finding anything. |
Meddowmuffin | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 12:31 pm     12:15 BB time i just joined feed 3 - Erika and Robert talking outside. E: You are obviously mad at me for something R: I'm not going to forget some of the things you did to me. E: and I'm not going to forget some of the things you did to me. R: It really doesn't matter - it's a fuc%ing game. E: Then how come you were so nice to me the first day? r: Because I thought we could get along and we can't - I don't wnat to pretend or anything, so that's it. So what do you wnat to do? Huh? What do you wnat to do? E is silent. R; Outside this house, we aren't friends anyway, inside this house, we both know we aren't going to make it to the end. Once we leave here, no one is going to talk like we do here.. I don't give a fu(k. So what do you want to do? E: I have tried to talk to you R: no you haven't E: yes I did - about your alcoholism - look, I know you don't want me here... R:I don't want you here? YOU don't want me here! E: I just don't want in a group situation, like, I can't hang out R: No, you can. Of course you can - what do you mean? I would never do that - I don't do cheesy shit like that - you'll see it in the tapes, you can do whatever you want. They are sitting silently now R: I'm not gonna fake it like we are best friends - I'm not like that E:It's just weird - I don't want you to think, if I'm hanging out that you can't... I'm trying to be the better person R: I know. I was telling Amamda yesterday - it's bulls*it that she is leaving - it could happen to anyone. If the wrong person gets up next week I'm gone. Because of what has happened in the past, I understand why you hate me - I would hate me too - but I'm not the same person anymore, and I'm not going to prove it to you. E: I'm just trying to figure out why we are both here - I'm here for a reason, you are here for a reason. I'd like to be not high school about it... we're both here for at least another week. Out of the ex's we re probably the most NOT affected. R: It makes me sick that these goddamn kids talking about their high school. I graduated in 95, you long before that - I have been married and divorced and have a child - they don't know what divorce and kids and all that is! It's so stupid. E is crying now E: This has affected me - it started with Scotty - maybe I am more compassionate than the others. I saw all of Scotty's behaviors as a cry for help. I don't condone his behavior, but (I'm missing alot here) - I feel like I am in the Twilight Zone. R; What do you feel emotional about? Everything is good. This game isn't even real. You saw those kids crying in there. It's bullsh*t. E: But it is real human emotion - Scotty is a person that I feel really bad for. R: If this had been a game of people between 25-35, none ex's - I might have got something out of it. But what does a 22 year old kid out of college have to tell me? Maybe it's not what we expected it to be, but it is only 3 months out of our lives and it's done. You go home and your real life starts. Silence again R: Look, you were excited to come in here? E: Ya - I was R: I wasn't - I didn't expect it to be great fun. I knew I would be bored. It's not the experience of a lifetime like it is for those kids - not the best thing that ever happened to me. I want to be out of here in 12 weeks - the money doesn't come into my head every day. We'll be cool - we should be, I mean, we're not friends but - like that game show you were on where you won that money? That was a one time thing that didn't affect your life. R now telling E he would be okay being evicted - he'd be excited. That's he'd never say that he wished he was back in the house. Amanda now comes out and Robert leaves. |
Ryn | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 12:31 pm     Erika - is crying - says the whole thing has been very emotional for her R - why? E - the whole scotty thing - I saw it as a cry for help, I think he needs help, but I am not 23, I don't find it a joke. R - he was in my room, it didn't effect me but I didn't like the way it affected the house. R says he feels the same way - that she shouldn't feel too bad, this is a game - its not real switched to 4 Erika - i am not finding anything..... R - if it had been a game of people 25-35 - no ex's - it would be different, btu I am not learning anything - not getting anything out of this either. R - what I am sayign is - maybe its not what we expected, but its only 3 months of our lives, the day you get out you move on, your real life starts again E - right silence... r - were you excited to come in here? E - yreah - and nervous.... R - I wasn't, I knew I would be bored, wasn't nervous or worried. its not an experience of a lifetime, sure it is for these kids that are 23. R - I wanted it to be 11-12 weeks, but I want it to be over and done with. I thought if I win the money - great - if not - thats ok too. Robert refers to a game show Erika was on where she won money - no name given. a re-hashing by robert of how he will move on - no regrets, etc. someone comes out (alison) - the conversation ends. Erika 9to alison), I think I'm gonna go home.... its not about the game... its uncomfortable.... (posting) |
Ryn | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 12:35 pm     Alison - "at least yours isn't flirting with other people - right in front of your face" silence...... Alison - Its hard, I mean nate and I are such good friends now but we can't hang out because people are putting us together - it sucks. Jack is outside now. Alison - you alright?? Erika - yeah. Jack asks is he they know about Dana Aliso says yeah - thats why I came out. (appears Dana might have been upset that Erika was talking to robert - not sure) the three talk about Dana a bit. |
Seamonkey | Monday, July 14, 2003 - 12:37 pm     Outside, Erika is finally talking to Robert.. she says she heard he is after her.. he says no plan, just week to week, after no-one. Robert says "what do you want?" Don't bullsh*t me, we're not friends, we didn't get along on the outside, it didn't work.. when I call you, you want to know why I called.. and still upset about his job. She thinks he should have called her and said he was going to work at the same place would that bother her? He says he was thinking about his daughter, being close to her, and work, not Erika. (ed. there is a deep animosity that both acknowledge) He says he is acting just as he would outside, just ignoring her. She asks why he was nice to her the first day. he says he thought they could talk, but they can't. Robert doesn't want to pretend. (I'm not getting all of this) R: what do you want to do? HUH? what do YOU want to do? Outside this house we aren't gonna be friends. Inside we arent friends, we aren't both gonna win. the day we walk out we'll never talk again. I really, 100% don't care. What do you think? Erika just doesn't want to be uncomfortable, seemed at the beginning it was going to be ok, try to talk to Robert.. he says no way. she says at school, trying to talk about his alcoholism, he says yeah we talked about that. he says I know you don't want me here, I understand, its life, don't take it personally. Erika, just don't want in a group situation for it to be.. i can't hang out.. Robert says it isn't that way, of course she can hang out.. you know you can.. sigh.. I would never do that, I don't do cheesy sh*t like that, you can do whatever you want. Erika sighs. Silence (Jun called to DR) R: we'll be cool, but i don't want to fake it we won't be best friends, we never were. Erika saya that it is weird, she doesn't want him to feel like if she's there he can't hang out, trying to be the better person. R. I know. R. I was telling Amanda, her leaving, is bullsh*t, she's awesome. Erika agrees. Robert says if I leave, I leave, it is the game. Don't want.. deep in my heart I don't hate you, but from the past I understand if you don't like me, don't blame you. I'm a different person, etc. Erika says they haven't been together in three years, trying to figure out why they are here together. R laughs agrees says it is clear that of everyone in the house the two of them are the most unhappy about both being there. Erika thinks they must be there for a reason, doesn't want to be highschool about it. Robert says he knows. E: says the exes were probably not affected by it robert says we are different, we are normal adult people.. so this is different (he and Erika).. the others are talking about relationships at 15. robert says he is 33, doesn't think the others have any of the issues that he and Erika had.. alcohol, kid, adult stuff, the others don't know. Erika says whole experience has been really emotional for her. why? Scottie.. E felt very sorry for him (she's crying, but she isn't on this feed).. she felt that Scot was a cry for help, what he did to others isn't right but he needs help She isn't tony tree, doesn't find it a joke.. Robert says he didn't mind either, Scott in his room but the others are so young and you see how it affected them. He smiles.. he's totally agreeing with her. Robert says the emotions.. all good, the game isn't real.. She says but real emotions, Scottie is a person, I felt really bad for. A game, but real people in the game. E wanted to come into this to learn about self, have a shot at some money, but finding that... not really finding anything. Robert says would have been a game with people between 25-35, not exes, not as craxy as.. you know what i mean.. says he's not getting anything out of it.. what is a 23 year old just out of college going to tell me.. Nothing out of this outside, just like you. It isn't what we expected it to be but it is only three mo or however long we last but the day you get home, your real life is then.. silence. R Were you excited to come in here? E says yeah.. R says he wasn't.. Knew he'd be bored, has his own friends, etc. not the experience of a lifetime like the kids for them, not the best thing that ever happened to me.. wants it to be 12 weeks or less, not for the money, wants to be out of here.. of course thinks about the money, cool, but if I don't, I don't. We'll be cool, we could be, but as a friend, but please don't take this game for anything else.. (think he means they are in here together but not meaningful for their lives outside). Amanda and Jee told them if you leave.. fine, be excited, life is out there. Robert up on feet.. that day will be a good day, never say I wish I was back. can hear things being dragged so.. oh Michelle came out and interrupted (ed. clueless). Erika says "I think I'm gonna go home. I think I want to". Not about the game.. says it is uncomfortable for me She's talking to Michelle, Robert went inside. E. Not what I expected it to be. Wouldn't mind if she was out. Interestingly, outside, she's not wearing sunglasses, being more real. Michelle says it is hard, being friends, hard to talk to Dave one of only people you can get along with. Other people are out now.. sounds like they think she was crying because of Robert.. jack is there.. Now back to plotting vs Dana I think. Erika and Jack, can't tell who else is there. Erika says it isn't about the game (she's talking about her talk with Robert, just back to her first thing of not wanting to be uncomforatable like she heard nothing Robert said. Oh it is Ali now talking to Jack, griping about her being nosy (Dana, I think). Says Dana will NOT put Justin up. Jack agrees. Ali can't stand people who lie like that. Jack says she is trying to have it both ways. Ali do we need her. Jack says we need her inside the tent pissin' out, not pissin' in (LOL) |
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