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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Big Brother IV - July 2003 Live Feed Archives: July 14, 2003 - Day 10 - Much plotting - HGs get Hula Hoops: Archive through July 14, 2003

Azriel

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 06:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Camera 1

Dave and Amanda outside

Amanda says that David has caught her off guard and she is not going to continue and talk to him and that it turn out to be bullshit. David says she is the only person he can relate to even though he doesn't trust her 100% He said and I don't expect you to trust me 100% He said I notice you laugh at my jokes and I'm not being totally ungeniune. He says it just sucks that you think it's bullshit. Amanda says she wouldn't be talking to anyone else in the house like this and she just can't explain it.

David says it sucks. Amanda says what sucks? He says I don't know. David looks at camera and says, 'I'm right here Scott, Here I am!' now Amanda is telling him just say it say it. David says he just feels boyish trying to talk to her and he wants to see her after they get out of the house not in a relationship but as friends. He says he just doesn't know how to express it. He says he loves sitting here bullshitting with her about anything. He says it really pisses him off that because he was open about how he is in the house that it is f'ing him up and he doesn't want her to think that he is talking to her because he doesn't have anything better to do. He says does that make sense? She said what did you think I was going to say? He said I don't know. She said that she reacts differently and she thinks he is a cool guy and she enjoys talking to him. She said you saying all that just reminded me how I felt when I came in. David says so you are really an evil person because you saw me and you saw that I was evil. She says nooooo I'm not evil. She says that she just didn't anticipate meeting someone that she thinks is cool and then to hear you now say it's all f'ing bullshit. Talking about how she thinks that he is honest and she thought he was sweet when he talked about Michelle, then he comes up saying that he is acting a character and it just threw her. David says it like I told you that someone stole my cookies and you think I'm blaming you for stealing my cookies. He said, ' I know that was a stupid analogy but you know what I mean' David says he never wanted it to seem like he didn't trust her. Amanda says she doesn't know why she took it so personally. Amanda laughs and says what the f**k just happened? David says I don't know what just happened and laughs.

They are both sound tired and are just babbling now. They keep going back over the same things about trust. He's afraid that no matter what he says she won't believe him now. He says there is noone else he would have told this. She says yeah because of the game! You wouldn't have told me if I wasn't leaving. He says he won't sit there and pretend that everything is going to be okay and that she won't be going and that's why he wanted to be straightforward.

David says bottom line I think you are a f'ing awesome chick and I hope you aren't offended by chick and he says he hopes they get to continue these conversations. He says until they get out it's gonna be weird. He said on tv they are saying they have been talking for the last 2 hours What the f**k are they talking about?

Amanda says she won't tell him her secrets. HE said you don't have to tell me your secrets. She said that's what ruined it I told you a secret. I told you what Jun was talking about. David says he doesn't understand. Amanda says I know you don't. She says maybe you thought I was telling you too much maybe you didn't want to hear it. He says why are you over analyzing it. She says we have been talking for 3 hours. He says I'm talking about this you are talking about that She says I'm talking about everything this and this and I'm just saying that's how I took it. She says I'm just saying I read you wrong and maybe I treated you a little harshly.

Amanda says it started out with nothing and now you keep misunderstanding so I have to keep explaining it and it's only making it worse. She says so you are a f'ing dick and I've spent a night wasted in the big brother house talking to you. (all of this is being said in a laughing matter but Amanda sounds cautious)

Amanda says there is way too much bullshit going on in this house. You don't have to explain I'm just telling you this. David says I know I don't have to explain but I want to explain. I don't want you walking away from this thing and thinking it's all bullshit. I wanted to say so many times that we should get together after this is over and how do I say that in here and have it be geniune? People in here talk about it like it's going to happen and I don't want to throw it out there like that like it's bullshitting with you.

Amanda says if you had said it prior to opening up your soul of darkness to me...I know you were just being honest with me but before I would have said cool but now I don't know. David says I think I said the wrong thing and you took it to an extreme. Amanda says I didn't take anything to the extreme I think you did Amanda says for you to know come out with I want to hang out with you after she says before I would have thought you did mean it but now total bullshit but not to say it's not. I don't even know how to finish this. David says I don't either. Are we married? what is this? Is this big brother get married to someone you don't even know in a f'ing house?

Amanda says she doesn't choose to hang out with people that just bullshit that there were 12 other people in the house she could be with if she wanted that. David says and I'm just trying to say I came out with it wrong.

Amanda says that they are going to show them fighting and end with you saying what are we married? She says that is going to be funny.

David talks about gay comments he made to Scott and says they might make it look like I want Scott and she ask him if he is a homophobic. David says nothing and she says why are you smiling? She keep pressing and he says no why would I come in here if I was?

He saw one of his other exes at the hotel and it made him think they were going to put couples in the house and thought there would be a gay couple in the house. He said he was glad it wasn't the other girl and was Michelle. Now David is wondering if someone was gay in the house. Amanda asks who would be gay? David says to tell you the truth when I first saw Scott I thought he was the gay guy. Then when he first met Scott when they went in the house he thought the gay guy was cool. He says he told the diary room. Amanda says it too bad you aren't as cool as I thought you were. He says yeah you too. She says no really Dave it's a shame. Dave says that sucks. She says she is kidding but it was too bad he decided to show his cockiness then she says no what am I saying I didn't mean that I mean... (couldn't hear dangit)

Lostintheglades

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 06:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Amanda is now opening up more and explains that she just doesn't know if she can believe him because he told her he's bs'ing everyone and so she feels like he's been bs'ing her as well. But she thinks he's only telling her this becuase she's leaving so now he can be honest.

D - I think your awsome, I to F'ing get to know you when all this isn't a factor so you know I'm sincere. I think what you think you know of me is correct and you'll find that out if we talk after all this. This is really weird.

D - this has been going on for 2 hours and people are like...what the F are they talking about? (Ed...he's right there...they both just talk in circles.)

A - my biggest mistake was telling you that uh....what Jun was talking about and she thinks it made him freak out.

D - I don't understand...why would I freak out

A - for a number of reasons.

A - No maybe you thought I was telling you too much.

D - No...I don't take any of this serious.

A - So that shouldn't bother me?

D - No...because I'm talking about the (uses arms to mean the whole game.) not this ( uses arms again to indicate just a small piece of the game.)

A - I took it to mean everything.

A - It's not a big deal...you're a F'ing D*** and I wasted 3 hours talking to you...

A - I also recall him saying he doesn't intend to see any of these people outside of the house. Thinks maybe she reacted to much to his confession of he is bs'ing everyone..

D - does not want her thinking that. How does he tell her that he wants to see her outside of here while he's in here without it sounding like it's part of the game. So...I just enjoy talking with you, your sense of humor...and you're laughing at me.

A - Why would I think that what you are saying is really you and that you're being honest...

D - I'm digging myself into a huge point

A - Yeah...a big one.

D I think I said the wrong thing and you took it to the extreme.

A - I don't take anything to an extreme...I think you took my reaction to an extreme.

David wanted to straighten it out...didn't want to leave it with her thinking his talk with her was total bs as well as everything else that goes on in the house. ( I think they're trying to figure out what is game play and what is not)

A - I don't hang out with people that are just bs. If I wanted to there are plenty of people here I could hang with.

D - I just don't want you to think that everything I said to you was bs.

A - so how much of this do you think they'll show.

Talking about what they can do with this (editing) they can make it look like whatever they want.

D - saying he knew they were going to bring in some ex's...but thought that everyone would be an ex couple but they would also have a gay x couple.
And how they really fight.

D - Now they're trying to figure out who would be gay....Dave said he thought Scott would have been the gay guy...cause when he saw him in the van...and he had a vest and button shirt...Dave thought he was the gay guy. Then the Amanda came in...so now he's not sure if there is a gay guy.
He says he told DR he thought Scott was gay.

A - It's too bad you're not as cool as I thought you were....it's a shame.

D - that sucks.

A - yeah...you killed it...nah...I'm just kidding.

A - but yeah...it is too bad you decided to show your cockiness in this game.

A - I didn't mean that...I meant uh....

D - you're digging a hole now....I'm still in a huge hole now I think...don't think I can dig my way out of this.

D - Now talking about a movie or show about digging for a treasure - and they just kept digging and digging....that's where he sees himself now...and that's the joke...you can't dig up.

A - David you're fine...You take me way to seriously sometimes.

Wearywatcher

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 06:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
A: Giving that this is all BS...
D: The joking around I did with Scott with gay stuff, the TV producers could turn it around and say Scott and I are gay.
A: Are you homophobic?
D: no
A: then why are you laughing.
D: If I were, I wouldnt come in here because I thought there would be a gay couple. I thought everyone was coming in as couples, including gay ones and ex-ones.
D: You know how gay couples argue.
A; I think that would have been really, really funny.
D: I wonder if someone IS gay, though.
A: Who would be gay?
D: I thought Scott was. I saw him in the Van and he had this over shirt, sunglasses on a string and reg shirt half-buttoned.
D: Then I found out he wasn't, that he had an ex girl here.
A: Thats funny.
D: I joke around a lot.
A: Youre about as cool as I thought you were.
R; You are too.
A: Its too bad you decided to show your cockiness. .. I meant...
D: Youre diggin a hole now, B****.
D: (talking about TV show story)...
A: Is that where you see yourself?
D: Yeah, "dig up, stupid" ... you cant dig up, thats the joke, it won't work.
A: Youre fine, so youre in debt, thats cool.
I dont even think youre not cool
D: Thanks
A: Im kidding.
D: This is all really wierd and its all my fault. I can't stop talking about it. Im still trying to dig up.
A: Did I react?
D: This isnt a big deal. I came in the same idea, Im not going to make friends, Im going to be the cool guy on TV... I was going to trash everyone in the DR.. I have been doing that.. but I havent said anyting aobut you. I didnt think I'd meet anyone in the house like you.
A: I thought I was going to do the same think, trash everyone.
D: I felt like I could be open and honest with you since youre probably leaving.
A: I'll wait and see what you said about me in the DR.


<fixed it - ryn>

Mygetaway

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 06:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
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Wearywatcher

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 06:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry, Amanda and DAVE ( not Robert) were talking all night above. <I fixed it - ryn>

Meddowmuffin

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 06:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fed 4 BB time 6:02:

Dave an dAmanda still talking outside. Dave thought there was going to be a gay couple. Amanda asks if he is homophobic. He says no.
Dave tells Amanda that he thought Scott was the gay guy. They both laugh about this.

Amanda: I'ts too bad you aren't as cool as I thought you were.

Dave: Oh, yeah. It's a shame.

Ama: No - it's a shame (kinda of sing-songey taunting him) It's a shame... that you, uh, had to start showing your cockyness and, uh...

Dave: You're diggin' yourself a hole now, •••••!
(they are not hostile or mean during this conversation - they are flirting, really)

Dave tells a story from the Simpsons about digging up? Says he is trying to dig up now but it's not working

Ama: You are such a dick - I'm not serious - but you are. You take me way too seriously.

Neither of them seem to know how to end their conversation.

Dave apologizing for starting this conversation. But says he can't stop talking about it - he's still trying to "dig up" (I think he told her that he likes her, but she pretty much said she doesn't feel the same? But want's to be friends? I'm not really sure - it's really confusing, because she is smiling alot and flirting with him)

Dave: I'm thought I'd come in here and be the cool funny guy, and I joke around in the diary room. I just want to say that I am sneaking and conniving in this game, but I want you to know that right now, with you, since you are going to be gone in 3 days, that I am not being that way with you now.

Ama: do you say what you think of me in the diary room?

Dave: No - if I did I don't remember.

Ama: You have to understand that my sense of humor is different from most - I tend to take things too far for my own amusement.

Dave: Sure - I like that about you.
(They are talking really fast and it's hard to catch everything)

Ama. saying that she is glad to find that Dave isn't what she thought he was, but if she finds out later that he really is an ••••••• (from DR footage) she won't be surprised. But she still thinks he is hilarious and great and she is getting kind of sick because they are still thaking about it.

Dave: You think everything I do is to make other people laugh, but alot of it is for my own personal amusement, and like -

Ama: you just don't like to finish sentences. I don't understand, I don't get you.

Ama. says she has perfected the art of guilt-tripping people.

Dave: You must be pretty good to - whatever - to keep us out here til whatever o'clock in the morning.

Ama: It's because it is on TV, Dave. The whole world is watching and you want to let them know that your aren't a ••••••••.

)It is really like Dave is trying to tell her he is being real, but she keeps making a show out of it and confusing him - she's a walking mindf@ck.)

Dave just laughing because he doesn't know what else to say.

Dave: It's funny because any way I say that I'm not trying to come off a certain way, no matter what I say about being on TV or anything -

Ama: No - that was more like a joke. I wasn't trying to say that you are putting on a show, Dave. I know you don't see the cameras, man. I know you are being real. It's like when you hear the music but you don't really hear it, Dave. So, are you mad now that I put you through that torture.

Dave: I feel weird. I feel ugly weird. The one thing I'm wondering... is what the hell were we talking aobut? Because it's been dragging on pretty good. You know what's funny? I'm always going to remember that this is the weirdest conversation I have ever had. As far as the mood - this definitely takes the cake.

TIMED OUT

Azriel

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 06:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Camera 1

Amanda and David outside (God, why won't these hamsters go to bed?)

David talking about Simpsons. Amanda says Dude you are fine so you are a dick aww I'm kidding
David says that's cool and Amanda says I'm kidding. Now Amanda is worried that David thinks she is being a •••••. David says this is all really weird but it's all my fault and which makes me feel like a •••••••. Amanda asks him if he needs some sleep. David says he is still trying to dig out. Amanda says it's not that big a deal. David agrees. He says it just feels really weird because he came in with the idea not to make friends and trash everyone and he would be the cool guy on tv because he would talk about everybody and amanda says that's what I was going to do. David says he has and Amanda asks if he said anything bad about her and he says no and she says remember I'll see it, be honest and he says I am. David says he just felt like he could be open cuz she would probably be leaving. Amanda says she will just wait and see what he says about her in the diary room. He says if he did then he truly doesn't remember and he says he did make fun of people. Amanda says she called him an ••••••• in the diary room. Amanda says she tends to take things further than she should for her own amusement. She says what David said hasn't changed her view of him she still thinks he is cool.

Amanda says she wanted to hear his explanation but she didn't mean to blow it up. She still thinks he is a great guy and won't act any different around him. She got amusement out of blowing it up more. She said I tend to do that on occasion and it's not nice David says I think it is ••••••• awesome. She says it is not. He tells her that he does the same thing.

Amanda says she doesn't get him and David says I don't get me either. Amanda says she has perfected the art of guilt-tripping. Amanda says the world is watching Dave and you really need to let them know that you are not a dick head. He says I'm not a dick head. Amanda says you are not to be trusted Davie. She asks him what is that face? He makes a little boy voice and says, I'm pouting.

David is totally babbling. Amanda says David David David it was only a joke. Amanda says she knows he is a real person and she isn't acting for the cameras.

Amanda says are you mad that I put you through that torture? David says the one thing he is wondering is what the hell were we talking about?
Amanda says she doesn't know what led him into saying it. David says I'm always going to remember that this is the weirdest conversation I've ever had (This is the weirdest conversation I've ever had to listen to, dave, go to bed!)

David is babbling about being real, now he is making silly noises. amanda tells him it is okay don't strain your head. It's so not a big deal. She hopes he isn't weirded out and he says he isn't but it's the weirdest conversation he ever had. Now Amanda asks him is she thinks the way she is acting is weird and he says no no and she says you can say it and he says no no if I said yes that would be how I feel but I'm not.

Amanda says do you feel I'm acting different to you and dave says yes and I don't want you to act different and he doesn't want her to think he is just full of bullshit from now on. Amanda tells him it is just weird and David says well let's just stop talking about this because it is just weird.

(I'm sorry my mind is starting to babble, I can't type this anymore)

Lostintheglades

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 06:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
D - Anyways...ya know this is all really weird and it's all my fault and makes me feel like a real dumba***.

D - I need to stop talking about it...I still need to dig up.....

D - I came in here thinking I wouldn't have to make real friends...and he thinks it would be cool to hang with her.

D - he thinks what he was trying to say was that he is coniving in this game..but he can just be honest and open with her..because she may be leaving.

A - you have to understand my sense of humor is..I take things further than where they need to go.

A - It was a little annoying...Did I want you to explain it..absolutely...did it change my point of view of ...no...

David doesn't want to set himself up either...thinking someone is a friend or honest and then finding out later they were bashing him in the DR and behind his back.

Amanda says she trusts her instincts. She still enjoys talking to him...the fact that we're still talking about it is making her totally nausious.

D - says he enjoys making certain people laugh but he does a lot of stuff just for his own amusement.

A says she's pretty good at "guilt tripping" people.

D - yeah you are....because here he is trying to explain everything he said...

A - the world is watching Dave and you really need to let them know you're not a D***head.

A - You're not to be trusted Davey

A - Did that make you mad? Why are you pouting?

A - what are you trying to do?

D - No mater what I say....it's all like,...

Amanda cuts him off. She said she knows he's not playing the cameras and she knows he's a real guy.
She was kidding.

A - so are you mad now? That I put you through that torture?

D - I feel weird...I feel strange...and out of everything you talked about...what he's wondering is...what the hell were we talking about?

D - I am always going to remember this but this is the weirdest conversation I've ever had as far as the mood. Because we're in this environment it's almost like we can't have a real conversation without the thought of one being two faced.

David lost his train of thought again and seems to be so intent on convincing Amanda that he's being sincere.

A - you think I'm acting different because of what you said?

D - Yes and I don't want you too. He doesn't want her to think that everything he says to her is bs.

A - it's not bothering me anymore.
D - are you sure? Good.

Now Amanda says there was a part of her that wanted to see his reaction when he thought she was mad. She wanted to see him dig.

A - People do things or say things that I find amusing in certain ways that she feels as though ,, I take them for a ride. Not that it didn't bother me...but it didn't bother me as far as I took it.

D - I feel like you're Bs'ing me.

A - Of course you do...that's why you're here.

Now talking about some of the other girls...asking her questions like "who has the best body"...

Dave talking about bashing the HG's but he also talks about the good things...of how people are playing the game...like when Scott left...he said that well, that's one less person on his side. He's not going to say..yeah...he was a great guy and I'm gonna really miss him. He's not going to bash Michelle, even though it really ruffled his feathers .....

Why do they act like they don't know what happened..

Kaili

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 06:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Amanda and David still talking- David talking about Scott being gone and it being one less person on their side. He's not saying he would bash him (Scott)- thought he was gay at first. Not going to bash Mishelle even though he "ruffled her feathers". The BB people ask them how arguments fight- Amanda doesn't get why they would ask because they must know.

David asked BB for a CD of stuff he does in the house when he leaves. The BB woman said she'll see what she can do. He wants to see what it looked like. (Don't really know what he's talking about- I just woke up and came in mid conversation).

Now he's telling a story about a football hitting someone in the nuts and he should be the one who wins America's Funniest Home Videos. That kind of stuff is funny- not babies crawling across a stage. He's rather laugh at seeing someone get hit in nuts- falling on a large chess piece. He got kicked by a girl for calling her a ••••• in 6th grade- he cried. Talking about kicking a girl bully and running home so she couldn't get him.

Amanda fell down a slide or something and peed her pants from laughing. She couldn't control her bladder when she was 10- peed whenever she laughed hard. Doesn't do it anymore. Started some excersise that helps tighten bladder.

Kaili

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 06:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Amanda doesn't get Robert- he's super forward and that bothers her about him. He gave her a massage last night then came and laid in her bed. He told Justin he was going to hook up with her then just laid there and talked to her. Later they played cards and he put his arms around her- she thought it was weird. He has a dry sense of humor- she says maybe he was just kidding. David liked his sense of humor.

They are both dreading going into the house. she says he's going to be a marked man for no reason and it'll be her fault. Jun will smirk asking whjen she went to bed and it'll be a big deal based on nothing.

David says it's like being in school- he's not into the things they're all into. "Is this part of your strategy cause it sucks, are you having fun causeyou're lame" (he's saying what he is thinking about the rest of the people). Amanda says that is what happens when you put a bunch of girls together.

Amanda wants to cry but can't. Davis says she's sick and twisted. He does stuff because he is amused by people's reactions to him. Sometimes he does it to make other people laugh- sometimes to make himself laugh. Talking about sandwich conversation earlier- him saying gimme to everyone. He was having fun watching them- no one else sees why he's doing it.

Kaili

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 07:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
(I missed a little bit when feeds froze up on me- had to reload).


Davis playing with a lighter- Amanda telling him not to keep the fame on high setting so no one burns their face. She asks what he's going to do. (Figures- load plane)- he's going to take a really long nap. Amanda wonders what time he thinks it is- he guesses 8. Brilliant observation by David- "The sun's up". Amanda wonders why it's still so cold.

David talking about being cold and dehydrated- cold water in canteens- didn't want to drink it cause it was too cold. (Not sure where he was). Right before dawn the coldest- not warm until the sun actually hits you. You might walk all day until the next evening- go through it all again. Amanda says it sounds horrible- he says it sucks but no one's dying.

Quick conversation change-
David says he's comfortable with his sexuality- she asked because she was joking. Talking about being deployed and row of shower stalls. Guy next to him laughing- peeing on David's shampoo bottle. He pushed the guy laughing- the guy was doing it as a joke- other guys saying "that's so gay"- now a story about swimming naked, male friend all uncomfortable and wore shorts (there was a girl there too). Amanda wants to know if he just wanted to tell her that story. He says the story is coolest if it's brought into a convo. about homophobia.

David tells her she can go to sleep now- she doesn't want to have to tell Jun to move over on bed. Maybe she'll sleep on the couch.

David doesn't think there will be a competition today. Amanda wants to know what they'llget for a luxury. David thinks it's funny how everyone wonders about next comp. Now talking about officer engineers and a special day where they got hot dogs- they missed their time slot and all the people were asking about pizza because they missed it- Ranger school and people acting like they were owed pizza for missing hotdogs- saying the people in the house are the same way- think they're the center of attention.

He doesn't get how the show gets good ratings- just people talking. He was shown 4 episodes and they asked if he was still interested in the show. He was called up and recruited. Thought BB was about taking kids to the park to softball games. They explained it to him- h wanted to know the point of the show- he didn't get that it was nothing. Did the interview- stayed and hung with cousin that night in LA- backstage at Tenacious D concert.

Was called back the next day on his way home- told he had to stay for a week and they were interested. Kept being asked his strategy- he watched for awhile and still didn't get it. "What's wrong with people paying 99 cents to call and give Joe Schmoe a phone call".

Amanda was called- they left message on cell phone. She was like what is it- she wouildn't get married on TV. They told her it was BB- she knew about it because it was Scott's favorite show. Someone came out0- constantly taking pictures. Amanda says half the house resents that they sent in tapes and the others didn't- it's their big break/big shot and the others are just their.

David talking about the car sitting inside competition- he wants the money- pay his rent. He'll stretch it as long as he can to keep making money from interviews and whatever.

Kaili

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 07:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Amanda says she's weirder than David is- he says they're both weird but different.

Amanda says she isn't a good napper. She says if they wake her at 10:30 and it's as late as they think it is, she'll be upset- if she naps later it's okay but not going to sleep for only a few hours.

David talking about guy sleeping in bushes- another Ranger story- just about being exhausted and walking all night until you get to a place and getting there at the time you're supposed to be up (if they get lost)/ Four hours sleep, 2 meals a day- always hungry. 2000 calories not enough- he was like a skeleton weighed 155 with hollow eyes and cheeks sunk in. His uniform hung off him- it was a good experience and it's why he ca laugh at all the stuff in the house.

Saying he's mad about knee slipping off buzzer- he knows people think he threw the comp. He would have put Justin and Robert up. Wasn't expecting to want Dana gone.

Both heading inside now.

Amanda in bathroom- david wandering in kitchen and making faces for camera- auduio cut out for a second bet when it came back he was asking the camera if it knows because he sure doesn't (I have no idea what)

Both brushing their teeth. Amanda says her hair is turning orange fgrom the shower there- used to be brown highlights.

Kaili

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 07:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Had to reload- both in their seperate rooms now changing and getting into bed.

Amanda in her room- female voice saying she had a funky dream and yawning. Now all is quiet.

Kaili

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 07:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh! Feed 3 David whispering to Erica-

David telling her about the conversation with Amanda- about talking about Dana and telling Nathan to keep an eye on Dana- he said "Yeah" David and Amanda talking about her being sneaky, Nate saying she's flaky and it'll be her downfall. After Nate left Amanda wondered if it wasd a good idea for hoim to talk to Nate about Dana. He thinks it's because Amanda doesn't know about Nate and them- with Scott being in with them she always saw them all together. He wanted to find out if Dana gave away the pact and Amanda never mentioned it. She knows she;s gone, has nothing to lose- told him her opinions on everything and that never came out so he doesn't think she knows.

Erika says they need Justin and Rob to go after Dana. David says Amanda thinks it'll be Erica and David up together soon. He wants to talk to Nate about what's going on with Michelle. Wants to put pressure on Dana- make her scared that everyone's onto her because she thinks no one sees it. If Justin gets HOH they need to push hard to get rid of Dana.

He says they aren't going up to Justin or Robert to scheme with them- he thinks they'll see she is acting as a double agent and all they have to do is present taht info to them- everyone would agree to put her up and vote her out. Not sure who would be put up with her.

Erica asks if he wants to work on Justin or Robert tomorrow- he doesn't want to do it too soon in case it gets back to her. Wants to wait to see who gets HOH first. Wants to make Dana feel like she's comfortable, but not give her an inch and watch her every move. If Justin or Robert gets HOH everyone in the house needs to approach them to get Dana out. David wants to pass the scenario by Nathan, Michelle, and Jack.

Erica thinks Justin and Robert might have made a deal to not put Dana up.

Erica says she's going to call her bluff and tell Robert that Dana is telling everyone that they (Robert and Justin) have a deal with her.

Jack up now- saying they should talk to Nathan about confronting Dana about leaving the alliance and getting her reaction. Says they should talk to Nate and see what he thinks of them talking to Robert or Justin. Says he feels like they wasted yesterday and got nothing done. Nathan should know from Ali that Dana said she wouldn't put up Justin if she got HOH. Jack doesn't know why Nathan doesn't know taht and if he does know he should have talked to them about it. Jack thinks Erica should talk to Robert- may be a strain.

She wonders what she should say- Jack says she should maybe bring up the fact that things didn't work on the outside but they don't have to be the same in here. Say she's suspicous of Dana and thinks she'll put Robert up- show him she's playing both sides and maybe then he'll go to Justin. The problem with that approach is if Dana has already told them about the 8 and told them that she is pretending to be in it.

Jack says he will talk to Nathan and run it by him- if he agrees he'll talk to Justin about nominating Dana if he gets HOH. Says they need to set a trap for Dana.

(I think Jack just left the room- bathroom maybe)

David says to Erica he can't believe this much thinking has to be put into it- could go in a couple directions- decisive point early in the game.

Zachyd

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 08:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Feed 1-Nathan sleeping on HoH bed.

Feed 2-Messed up covers.

Feed 3-Erika Awake Lying on bed with legs position like a mountain.

Feed 4-Outside view with snoring of it for audio.
Someone is setting up something on the chess board.

Zachyd

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 08:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
David-Pull Justin over to us.Put up Dana.And Jee.
Amanda told me i am a marked man. I told her i know i am.

Jack-Amanda may easily be an alliance between Nate and us.She said that to Erika.

Jack-Cause of the flirting between you and Dana you could distract her. A date to thew Pool. You could say as close as you feel from her you feel she is not close to the alliance.

Jack-

Kaili

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 08:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack is back.

David says Nathan said he's pretty sure he has Jun. She is suspicious of Dana. Jack agrees.

No conversation- will wait a few minutes to see if they are thinking or going to sleep....


Erica sits up and says they need to convince rob and Just that if they put either of them up they won't have the votes to get them out but Dana would be an easy out. They should go after someone taht everyone already has suspicion about.

Jack- talk to Robert about Dana being a loose cannon- that she is talking to everyone about nomination and tells them she will nominate Justin and Robert and tells J and R that she'll nominate Erica and David.

David says it will get to the point that one of them will go- all strong players. New alliances will form. Says the 8 was important because of the majority, but if they have to work with Justin and Robert it'll mix things up.

Jack says they need to decide who will approach Robert (him or Erica) before HOH. Says David could do it too, but David says he hasn't spent much time with him. Jack says they have an easy relationship- he could do it.

Jack wants to find a way to distract Dana and spend a half hour with Nate to talk to him. Jack doesn't think it's an accident taht Justin has walked in on their meetings twice. Jack thinks Justin smelled their alliance from the beginning.

David says they should pull Justin over to them- Jack says he doesn't want Erica and David nominated and hasn't heard his own name much. Said they want to pick off that room- Scott was first.

David saying how Amanda thinks he's makrked because of her- because the girls are so jealous and feel threatened bvecause they were out there talking. Amanda said they will think he was strategizing with her. Jack says Amanda easily made the alliance between Scott and them. Amanda felt free to talk cause she knows she is going.

Jack tells David he thinks that because of the flirting between him and Dana he would be the best one to distract her while Jack talks to Nate. Tells him he should tell her he has a feeling she isn't being up front with the alliance. David says he thinks she'll be less suspecting if he does that.

Jack wants to do it after lock down- after the competition. David says Erica could get Justin to play chess to distract him during all that.

Zachyd

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 08:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Alot of scheming and plotting on feed 3

Ryn

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 08:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Feed 4 - Jack and Dave talking.. (I came in on it)

Discussing getting someone alone in Nathans room after the competition (a food comp maybe?).

Its in relation to doing something behind Dana's back - that Dana would be less suspicious of Jack and Nathan in the HoH room than in the Desert room.

Dave said to get her by the pool and he will massage her feet and she will stay there forever and "talk all that stupid crap......"

jack - yeah

Dave - not that I really wanna massage her feet.

Jack - this is academic if we can win next week.

(erika is in the room as well but sleeping or not talking.

erikajack
Dave is off-cam - came shows Erika and Jack.

they haven't said any more - posting.

Ryn

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 08:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The 1st "intruders" I have seen - Cam 2

something is set up on the Chess Board.

12

One seems to be working on the backboard now.

I have seen 4 or 5 people walking across the bottom of the screen.

Audio is of one of the bedrooms - so no sound except russling sheets from time to time.

Cam switched to sleeping HG.

Now on Cam 3 Erika is up and in the kitchen.

Erica got a drink and looks to be heading back to bed

Ryn

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 08:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Erika tells Jack she noticed something was going on outside and thought it was one of "us" - then realized it must be something else.

She asks dave if they have a competition today and he said he thinks they have a lux comp.

both seem to be going back to sleep now.

Norm3000

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 08:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the HG's are on lockdown they must be setting up for the Luxury competition outside, hence moving of the chess pieces.

Ryn

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 08:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Erika can't sleep - says she is going to try to talk to Robert while everyone else is asleep - not about the game - just try to break the ice since they have not talked.

She told this all to Jack.

She walks to the entrance to the other bedroom area - pauses - and walks back to the desert room.

She said she can't talk to him 'cause Justin's bed is right there and he is in it.

Jack says he thought Justin was in bed with michelle - Erika said she thought so to.

jack or erika - "they must switch around"

Erika says she will do it "tommorow, or today"

Erika back in bed

Zachyd

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 08:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Feed 3-Erika got up to talk to Robert but it is to dark to find him so she goes back to bed.

Jack-I thought justin was in bed with Michelle,He must go back and forth.

Prisonerno6

Monday, July 14, 2003 - 10:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It's about 10:00 hamster time and all are still in bed. Once ina while someone gets up to pee, but that's about all the movement we've seen since the Dave/Erika/Jack convo a couple of hours ago.