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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Big Brother IV - July 2003 Live Feed Archives: July 16, 2003 - Day 12 - Amanda & Dave - Amanda Evicted - Jee HoH: Archive through July 16, 2003

Bookgirl137

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 09:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee wants to know something about why either no letter or so few pics. He feels so weird.

Others saying just a matter of time until everyone gets it, so enjoy.

Jee amazed, has not been on bed yet. Girls get up, Jee lays down (Michelle still on bed).

Jee-Who said you could touch my stuff Jun? Just kidding.

Talking about preserving his rose. Robert sitting in chair being quiet. Again says everyone welcome to come in and chill. Jun says something, Jee-Why do you always have to play devil's advocate? I'm a nice guy

Kuchi

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 09:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee said putting up Erika and Michelle as the pawn. He said Dana Robert and Justin and Nate safe. Jee said he wants Erika out, if she is vetoed out then Jack is up.

According to Dana the alliance NEW ONE is Robert justing jee dana and jun

Ryn

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 09:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The 1st four out are the ones not sequestered. Robert is clarifying this with Jee and Dana in the HoH room

Dana is so happy now she says. She says this week will set the tone for the rest of the game.

Dana says that people are gonna be acting different now.

Its obvious Dana does not want Jack, Erika or Dave to stay, she just said she thinks "those 3" only voted for Amanda because they knew she was gone anyways.

Brief FOTH..

Dana - there was something going on on the other side of the house (the three above) - and there are "floaters"

Jee says he is here to get out Erika

(expect Erika to be nominated and Dave/Jack)

Jee says he is going after Erika and he wants Roberts and Dana's word that when they get HoH that neither will nominate him.

Robert says "we have our plan - but there are a couple of other people going before that"

Dana now explains that she never connected with the original 7 - that she connected with the 5 that came in.

Robert says - whomever you put up with Erika - make sure its that it will guarentee a solid vote for Erika.

He thinks he might put up Michelle as a "pawn" - he wants Dana to let her know.

If Erika manages to be veto'd - Jack will be put up in her place.

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Jee says it is against the rules for him to tell michelle she is just being put up as a pawn and it is nothing personal - thats why he wants Dana to tell her.

Justin comes in - Jee tells the two he wants to put up - Justing suggests Dave instead of Michelle - but Jee says he doesn;'t want to "shatter" things - and thats why he wants to put up Michelle.

Nathan comes in - Jee tells him the same thing.

Now Jee says if Erika gets veto's off he might put up Jack OR Dave.

Aremid

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 09:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Robert and Jee are in the HOH room. They mention when Robert went to the Dominican Republic...
Jee says I smell food...I smell food. Its HERE... I smell it through the vents
Dana is in there with them
She is whispering
Dana - you know I've been stressing for two f------ days
Robert - I know you've been stressed
They talk about the 9-0 vote
Dana - they only did it cause they knew the three votes were going to go to waste anyway

FOTH

Dana - not using the veto was the stupidist...
Robert - I'm going to stick with it ( the plan) until Erica...she will be nominated...you two are safe for this week...so just be careful
Dana- beyond the 7(?) there is still a handful
Robert - I'm going to go out for Erica, but if you get HOH, just have my back too
Dana - don't make that deal with every person in the house, you get screwed
Robert - all I'm saying is that you're safe for this week
( I believe it was Robert speaking in the above exchange)
Dana...you're not stupid, there were 8 people in this house, and then you 5 walked in, I didn't hang with those people, I took to you guys
Jee - we'll be safe for a couple of weeks and then we'll go forward
Robert - you put Erica and somebody else up...get everybody else together...
Dana - she has to go
Jee... let me speak...you two are safe, Justin is safe, Nathan is safe, ( he says something about Michelle, but he says he can't tell her, he wants Dana too, I think he is going to put her up against Erica)
Then one of them says that she might get taken off by the veto and then what will they do
Jee - before it is done, tell her this is from Jee, that it is nothing personal, I cannot tell her myself

Justin has come in
Jee tells him what he plans...Justin brings up Dave...
Justin - if we put Erica and Michelle up and they get the veto
Jee - I told her to speak to Michelle privately, that it is nothing personal, and she is going to be safe, that we want to get Erica out...so that is the deal right now
Nate knocks and comes in
Nate - if Erica wins the veto who are you going to put up to replace her
Jee - Jack - either Jack or Dave
Someone tells Jee that it will be ideal if he gets the veto, then he wouldn't have to worry about anybody changing it, and he says he will definitely go for it
Jee says again, that he wants Dana to talk to Michelle
Alison comes in
Then they talk about being hungry

Ryn

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 09:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Food is there - they are going to eat.

Summary - apparently the HoH cannot tell someone ahead of time that they will be put up - only something like "I am thinking of putting you up"

SO Jee wants Dana to tell michelle right before noms that he will be putting her up as a pawn - that she will be staying for sure.

In the HoH room when this was discussed was 1st RObert & Dana - then Justin came in - then Nathan.

Lastly Michelle and Alison came in but thats when the food showed up (They didn't hear the convo).

Hgs are now getting into all the hot food that has arrived, they apparently have gone "all out"

Michelle says "thank you Big Brother"

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Bookgirl137

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 09:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry my earlier time references are Central time. I will now convert to BB time.

Feed 4: Starting about 9.32

Jee, Robert, Dana in HOH.

Jee-R and D are safe. Dana wants all to be sequestered together. Jee says will go after Erica. Wants R and D to promise not to nominate when they are HOH. D says not to make that deal with everyone. Jee specifies deal is just for this week.

Dana wants to hang out with people she likes.

Robert says have this plan, but has a few people he wants to go. Dana talking about how close she got to them. She doesn't even want to hang with the originals, thinks she has a target on her back because of it. Jee says we stick with the numbers they have now.

Robert wants to have E gone for sure. Jee starts to tell he will put up a "pawn". Dana interrupts to "explain" to him that the pawn has to be somebody he could lose, so not like Robert.

Jee tells Dana to let him speak. Probably Michelle as a pawn, but can not tell her that (he says that is against the rules for him as HOH to tell her that himself). Dana will tell her, because Jee can't. Dana says will win POV if has to cut her arm off. If veto used, put up Jack. So surely either E or Jack goes today.

Justin comes in, Dana leaves. Tell him E/Michelle plan. Jus says maybe Dave as a pawn. Nate enters. So Nate knows E/M plan now. Tell Nate that Jack probably up in case of veto. Maybe Dave. Michelle and Ali come in.

BB says [Hamsters, please put on your microphones] HGs confused by the Hamster reference.

Getting food out of storage room. Garden salad, vegetables, garlic cheese bread, baked potatoes with fixins), sauteed mushrooms, broccoli, not seeing steak (Things may be repeated, I am typing as I hear it named). Putting food on lazy susan and eating family style.

Bookgirl137

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 10:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Talking about the HOH contest.

Julie was a bit thrown by Justin's answer of about 80,000.

Saying Jee could have just put 1,000. He didn't want to "overbid".

All eating. General chit chat.

Bookgirl137

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 10:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
All feeds: About 10:20

Dave, Jack and Erica in desert room. Dave thinks they should hold off on approaching Jee. All changing for the hot tub. Jack saying at the door he could hear Dave and E's conversation at the hot tub, sound really carries. But he doesn't think they could hear inside.

Bookgirl137

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 10:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
About 10:21

Ali putting on jeans. Jun still eating. Jack sitting in bathroom. Waiting to get into WC to change? Asks Justin if going into hot tub. He doesn't know.

Outside:

Robert and Nate.

N-Do you trust Dana.
R-I trust her as far as what we need to do this week.
N-I'll tell you, between us (paraphrase)
R-Oh of course
N-She's a flake. She's paranoid
R-Yeah, she can f*** us up.
N-She can go to anybody and say anything.
R-I know.

Feeds switch to Jun and Jee at table.

Aremid

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 10:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack-(to David) the sound was carrying like crazy out there, I could hear everything you were saying ...even though you were whispering I could hear everything that you were saying
Erica agrees that the sound was carrying

(David was talking early but sound was low and I couldn't understand what he was saying)

Erica, Jack, and David are in the bedroom
Jack goes into the bathroom and sits down
Jack - Justin you going to the hot tub?
Michelle and Ali walk through the living room. Michelle has on a black dress

Camera switches to outside
Nathan - I don't know what they are thinking
Nathan - tell me Robert, do you honestly trust Dana
Robert - I trust her for this week
Nathan - she is a flake ...she can go to anybody and say anything about them without having a con..

Camera switched inside where Jun is sitting quietly at the table

All feeds at this time appear to be on the kitchen
Jee is now in there also
(Ed. Guess they didn't want us to hear the strategy conversation at this time)

Sound is outside now, where they are now playing basketball

Bookgirl137

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 10:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Starting about 10:25

All feeds on dining area. Michelle has no work out clothes. Jun finishes eating. Jack passing through to hot tub. Invites them. Jee probably not going.

Outside: Dave, Justin, Robert, Nate playing basketball. Jack and Dana in hot tub.

They keep switching back to Jun and Jee in kitchen.

Bookgirl137

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 10:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Starting about 10:30

Jun and Ali at sink. Michelle nearby. Ali leaves.

Jun-I miss Amanda
Jee-She's a good person
Michelle is sad she left.
Jun-She didn't leave, she got kicked out.

All very full, food was very good, didn't eat much today. Jun talks about going to have a cigarette. Jee cleaning the table. Jun and Jee seem to put most stuff up. She saves a lot to use in other dishes.

Jun-Who do you trust?
Jee-No one.

Jee goes to HOH. Jun still pottering around the kitchen. Jun and Jee go outside.
(Ed. Do they think Jun and Jee will fight?)

Bookgirl137

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 10:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Starting about 10.34
Dana in DR. Went in, not called in.

Ali, Michelle and Jee in hammock.

Ali or Michelle-What are you thinking
Jun-I think this sucks. Would you feel 100% safe if Justin was HOH? No, maybe 98% or something.

Jee and Dana had a fight over something about whether he should have told what foods he requested.

Say after this week, need to get the guys out. Think the guys will consider them sweet and harmless and leave them alone. Think they might very well be among the last standing. Jee too nice to put up "nice" girls. Will only put up girls if there is a good reason.

Listening to guys play basketball.

Michelle feels weird about shaving "down there". Missed something, but think in reference to cameras and cameramen.

Bookgirl137

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 10:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Starting about 10.40

Girls trying to exercise in hammock. Kind of doing the bicycle. Ali afraidJun stands up.
Jun-They're going to call me in and say Jee won HOH, are you worried?

[Jun go to DR] Jun-Told you.

Dana thinks John in DR has a cute voice. Was going to call her in when she came in. They're probably going to call everyone in to get reactions.

FOTH

Justareader

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 10:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana back from DR talking to girls about DR and FOTH!!
back - ali - michelle what are you thinking?
Mich- we are safe for another week. They (the boys)will go for eachother because we are not a threat to them.
A- we need to be on best behaviors...
they agree they need to talk to Jee...
Dave joins - you ok? me yeah- whatever she's a great girl, appreciate your concern....


bookgirl you rock!

Bookgirl137

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 10:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Michelle thinks she and Ali are safe, guys will go after Dana and one of themselves in next round because they will think them more threatening. (Hope that made sense)

M-I feel bad for Jun.
M-What do you think?
Ali-You and I need to be on best behavior.
M-Yeah, flirty best behavior.
Ali says just wait for them to go after themselves. Again M thinks that the guys will go after Dana as first girl. Not sure if this already assumes E going out this week.

M invites Dave to lay down on hammock. He does.

M-Are you sad?
D-She was a great person. (I'm trying to see how many times I type that or its equivalent tonight)
Dave appreciates them asking about her. Appreciates her concern. Probably nothing would have happened, but he knew she was leaving.

Ali-That's nice (and not sarcastic)

Dave says Amanda said he was a marked man the past few days, he said he would call her next week. Michelle is confused by the term.

They ask why. Dana was giving him dirty looks, she has no reason to be jealous. Michelle says she is not HOH. Dave beat Nate at hearts, but he can't beat Justin. Ali is disappointed.

M-Did Amanda talk bad about any of the girls?
No, she was cool. They wonder what she was ever doing with Scott. Dave feels bad. Ali understands. M thinks he's talking about Scott's ejection. They explain to her. Dave says he is an okay guy.

Bookgirl137

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 10:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is anyone else out there?

Starting about 10.51

Michelle, Ali and Dave in hammock.

M wants to go to bed soon, doesn't want to go to DR.

Ali says Justin wasn't good before at basketball. M says he is now, but she beat him. She beat Nate once, too.

Ali compliments Nate on a shot.

All feeds switch to bathroom.

Jee is brushing teeth. Erica is sitting. Sound like someone in shower.

Aremid

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 10:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun walks by Jee and said something about trust someone and Jee replies NO ONE and Jun says GOOD

Jee has been helping Jun clean up the kitchen

They go outside, camera moves outside
Jun goes to the hammock where Michelle and Ali are

Female - this really sucks
They start talking about Dana and something that happened during the show, related to food, and Jun said Jee said "what's your problem'
( Hard to hear for noise of basketball game)

Jun...over there talking to each other
They mention Erica
Michelle - he's like Michelle come into my room tonight and we'll talk
( They guys are YELLING during the BBall game)

Camera shows Robert, Jack, and EricaB in the hottub

Camera moves back to the hammock
The girls talk about walking and one of them says where shall we walk, they mention being full
Ali - I'm so full I feel stuffed
Michelle - Oh God, I know

Michelle - Here's Dana
Ali - she'll be thinking we are talking about her
Ali - How did it go
Dana - He said he would ? about it
Dana - I don't know if I should say this, but that John guy is so cute
They discuss if BB is going to call everyone in tonight, Dana thinks so to get eviction story

FOTH

Female - What are you thinking Michelle
Michelle - I'm thinking we are safe for another week
Female - I think the boys will go after one of themselves... you know what I mean

Michelle - they think each other are more frightening than us
Michelle - I feel bad for jack, you know?
Ali - yeah
Mi - what else are you thinking
Ali - go after each other, go after Dana first
I don't think they will come after me first
Michelle - maybe I need to talk to Jee
Ali - yeah

David comes up and they invite him to sit with them, and then ask him if he is ok
He says yes he is ok, she is a great person
David - thanks for asking though, I appreciate it, I appreciate your concern
David said, he had not planned on a couple of things, when he found out she was leaving, he spent a lot of time with her
David - He said after a couple of days she said you are so a marked man (Amanda)
Michelle - what does that mean
David - that I got a target on me
Mi- How do you know
David - Dana ?
Mi- but she is not HOH, don't worry about it
David - she is just so secure, so layed back
Mi - I don't know what she was ever doing with Scott
Ali - I don't either
David - Scott is a good dude...I kinda feel bad about that
Ali - he just got on my nerves
David...good ole Dave...I stood up put the ball behind my back....hilarious
Michelle says she beat Justin once and she beat Nate once too
Ali - he is very competitive
Dave - who
Ali - Justin

Camera switches inside, Erica, Jee, and Jack are in there. Erica has her robe on and is sitting in a chair. jee is brushing his teeth
Jack - you're sure...You're sure ( don't know who he is talking to)
Camera switches back outside, where the 3 in the hammock are watching the game
Ali - Oh my God, Oh my God, they are just trying to slaughter each other
Mi - Robert you are so quiet over there, how come you are not playing
Robert - just relaxing
Mi - he is just smiling over there

Justareader

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 10:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bookgirl I am here for a while - click link above to aske for help.

the quad cam shows people watching bb between justin and nathan. Robert ali, jack mich watching. I think michelle just went to bed. Justin called to DR

Bookgirl137

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 10:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Starting about 12.55

Back to Ali, Michelle, Dave on hammock. (Ed. I guess they thought Jack and E might approach Jee)

Other two feeds on Robert sitting at table. I'm listening to hammock.

M-Robert, you're so quiet, why aren't you playing?
R-I'm just relaxing.

Quiet on the hammock.

Jack comes out. Robert helps him cover the hot tub.

[Justin, please come to DR]

Jack sitting, Robert wandering. Ali and Michelle get up. Maybe a sprinkler came on the hammock? Nate, Jack, Ali, Erica Michelle, Dave in kitchen.

Justareader

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 11:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana, Jack ERiKA David in kitchen getting a snak chitchatting about the competition in the morning. Dana wants a wakeup call.

Dana to HOH room, checking out his fridge, wants cookie dough - having candy not ice cream to ali,

Jee, Dana and Nathan talking about going to bed, roberts in the room too.
Incomes ali and Jun? a lot of people coming in and talking...chit chat mostly I hear Jacks voice now. Good nights to some. Discussing what the comp may consist of. Jee is being very hospitable inviting all in, sharing his treats..offering seats. He's a good party host to those visiting the HOH room.
Now jun checking things out an having chocolate. Back to early to bed talk...
Jee is arranging furniture.
J to Rob - how the tabls turn, huh? R - yah its crazy. Now I have to be the host - I don't like that and reading off cards...
its hot in there
R i am happy for you...its a good position to be in.
folding clothes
I don't know how I am gonna eat all that junk food.
My feeds are breaking up - posting

Justareader

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 11:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
quad cam-
HOH room only Jee and Robert

discussing Jees girl watching and his message was from the heart. I have got to create some enemies. R- its ok when they are gone they are gone...after week 5 the game is on...

Rob stepped out of HOH
quad changes to bathroom and ali and michelle - Rob massaging mich while at sink. Ali trying to get make up off eyes

change to LR Dana, Jun, Dave at couch...
discussing breast, and small perky breast being sexy,,,dana gets up and kisses dave - uh,huh I have a kissable face
Dave doesn't wear underwear and Jun wonders if it may desensitize that area.
here comes Rob teasing Dave "are you ok?"

very brief FOTH then bathroom cam on mich finishing up she is off to DR. and upset because she just took off makeup.
LR - discussing vacation the movie - FOTH
its dave, robert, just, dana, jun in LR dave fell off stool very funny!! they are discussing sleeping, again and going to bed early - early competition....
posting

Justareader

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 11:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dave robert and Just in LR talking about sleeping arrangements - nate and ali in bed...

switch to BR Jun and Dan wispering about trust and suspicions and trust me...So hard to hear through the white noise.

Jun doing her bedtime bathroom routine. Flush from WC. - brush teeth....
back to LR whispers back to BR (very fast) they don't want us to know what the boys are discussing!

BR whispers - erica out, I think they will. Dana brushing and talking can't hear what
J - ali is working Michelle against us...
discussing an incident this am with exercising and a mic...
whispers - they are champs!! BB - dana put on your mic!!
e is like I don't care - J - good - I don't care.

then baby oil talk.

as lone as he nominates one of them .... whispers something about nathan told him... I would love to put him up. I think he should put him up, nathan would s>>t in his pants. that would be funny.
now they are trying to spend time ...
Funny that the 4 exes for HOH -
missing a lot the whispers are so quiet!
into the kitchen for a snack
posting

Justareader

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 11:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
quad to desert room

Jack - good ideas for strategy and we got to work them carefully get nathan to talk robert into thinking about nom dana - Justin and Robert pulling jees strings

erica - robert may think that I am not super girl and my work in my favor - I may not go out if put up against someone else.

J - a lot of convos are childish and don't have anything to add...

E - if put me up againste dave or nate the guy may go. cause they are more of a threat.

J - we have good relationships with everyone in house, leary of dana - she acts like she is not worried - she is not discussing strategy with us. She is bouyant

we should ambush her when we get a chance. need to not lose focus on getting justin out. we need to get down to 7 of us if we can...

talking about daves perception of his strengths and weaknesses.

cam switched to BR with Justin and robert brushing teeth....

posting

Kira33

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 11:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Justin is in the HoH room with Jee discussing strategy. They want to talk to Dave and Jack about keeping them off the block if they will promise not to use POV or to nominate them if either of them gets HoH next week.

Justin: We should talk to jack and dave and be like, "Look, we're kinda having a hard time figuring out who we're gonna nominate...you know, we won't nominate you two - if you get HoH, don't nominate us...if you get (POV) it, don't use it" That way, next HoH, we don't have to worry about anything....if Jack gets it, who gives a fuc*..if Dave gets it, who gives a fuc*...there's plenty of other people to nominate - it's not like we're putting 'em in a pinch. Taking Erika out this week is gonna be HUGE - once we do that, their whole side is gonna fall. They're very aware they dont have any numbers....

Ali came into the HoH and when they told her about their plan, she told them that's putting a huge target on their back.