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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Big Brother IV - July 2003 Live Feed Archives: July 24, 2003 - Day 20 - Dana nominates Alison & Jack: Archive through July 24, 2003

Justareader

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 12:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am listening to quad cam:
Jack, Nate, Justin discussing FBI and the pay scale and now they are discussing Football and wrestling and stuff (in HOH) dana just listening.

Dave and erica and now jun are talking in kitchen.

Justin keeps wondering about his massage from dana.

more wrestling talk.

Konamouse

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 12:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 3/4 cuts outside to Jee in the HT chatting with Jack. He appears to be reminding Jee about his girlfriend on the outside.
Jack: You haven't done anything in the house that she would be ashamed of.
Jee agrees. More chit chat about Jee's girlfriend, her father (ed. hard to hear over the HT noise and Jee doesn't have a mic). Jack was touched by how Michelle spoke (a good bye message?)
BB: Jee, please put on your microphone.
Jack turns off the HT and they put on the cover.

Cut to the hallway, Jun wispering to Nate. Tells him that she is talking to Dana about the "numbers". Now the girls want HT time.

Jack & Jee have already covered it up and the saunter into the house.

Cut to the BR, Robert still in the shower and he made sure his nose was clean (ed. I swear, he did). Jun clops out of the WC but my cam didn't see it, just heard the flip flops. Robert looks over the door at her.
R: Today was a fun day, went quick.
Jun agreed. She claims she is getting ready for bed when Ali asked her what she was doing.
Erika asked if Ali wanted to do HT.
Ali declines (doesn't want to get all icky, wants to look cute for tomorrow morning).

Back to RObert in the BR area. Dana comes inand sits on the chair, waiting to use the WC.
D: F---ing tired. Who's in there.
R: Ali
D: Where's everyone else, Dave?
R: Asleep I guess.
He then says off camera "Jee, go for it" (shower?)
D: My brain hurts.
Ali is washing her hands.

Cut to kitchen. Erika is wearing Dave's army cap (backwards), wrapped in a towel, with black sweats, planning to go to the HT. Ali agrees the hat is cute, but they know that Dave will never part with it.
Jun is eating (ed. again!!)

Cut to BR, Ali talking Dana, Robert walks by and then out of the area. Dana & Ali talk in circles "you know what I mean"? Then more wispering by the mirror across from the front door so I didn't get the sound.
BB: Alison, please put on your microphone.
A: I'm sorry!

Dave appears, Jee tells him "good morning, time for food competition, better get ready". Dave says nothing, disappears off the BR camera (view from the shower door towards the side chairs).

Dana shares some makeup remover with Ali (from Oil of Olay). More whispering. Dana complains about an ingrown eyebrow hair. Ali complains about her forehead (breaking out). She is due for her period in the next couple of days. Dana is "on right now, done by sat or sun". Then Ali is due to start.

Dana decides the night isn't over, so she isn't going to brush her teeth yet. Ali is putting on some zit cream on her face.

Dana wants to sit everyone around the kitchen table and have everyone have their say out in the open. Ali supports her, tells her to "do it"!

Cut to kitchen. David, Erika, Jun at the island.
D: This guy has his TV in his bedroom, the only way to watch movies is in bed.
J: I don't believe in watching tv in bed, I don't believe it's healthy.
Dave defends his tv location, that his LR isn't comfortable for tv watching. He almost bought pet beds for sleeping, b/c he is so broke. Erika offers her extra furniture, Jun says he can come live with her. Dave's coffee table was boxes initially. "It's a guys place, or a hobo's".
Jun is into glass and black steel, very retro. But her curtains and linens are Martha Stuart.
Erika reports that Dave has car parts in his cupboards instead of food. Dave lists what he has and that there are more cupboards than he needs for food items - so what else should he have in there. Then he lists the beer he has stocked.

Jun has serving stuff for, like, 16 people. Dave has five or six chairs. Jun misses her little apartment. Dave has a chair from a Denny's. Jun has a friend who has mismatched everything (stolen from restaurants). Dave claims to have a Spongebob toothbrush holder. WHen you pull out the sponge part, there are little white undies.
J: Only a man who is ready to be husband, would want me to be in his apartment.
She would clean it all up.
Jack has joined the table. Convo switches to the "4 am booty call". Dana walks thru, "no kissing the booty call". Dave says that is like a hooker. Jun sometimes provides breakfast for her booty calls. Dave says he would provide breakfast three times a day.

Justareader

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 12:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack moved to kitchen - I am following - Erica dave Jun in there. Jun getting ice cream I think. chatting about dave's place. and jun says she will convert his apartment... Then booty call talk and making breakfast after. Light convo - having fun with eachother.

(ed. I am communicating alot and getting "digitalization" of sound at times and its hard to catch it all)

Justareader

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 12:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Quad - nate, dana, justin and ali
all four shots in HOH - 2 on ali giving nathan foot/leg massage. 2 on justin and dana massage. They switch alot. staying on the massages. Discussing the PBJ diet and losing weight and food they have requested. Ali just left.

discussing the CD she got and the artist (she briefly started to sing a song and got FOTH)

(kona - you still here? gonna be here a while? you are doing great and I would rather just fill in )

Konamouse

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 12:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
(still following Cam 4)
Jun misses Michelle.
Jack: It gets quieter and quieter.
Dave: I don't miss her
J: She was a good sport.
Talk about "making fun of her"
D: Everyone else could have, but the second I made fun of her....(makes a noise)

Erika and Jun want to bet that Justin and Dana will spend the night together. Wait, they don't have money, Ali suggests betting beer. Erika tells the boys that Dana wants to talk to everyone tonight. Reports to Jack that the girls had a talk already. David quacks over Ali who is sitting at the DR table.

Cuts to a noisy Robert blow drying his hair, as E walks in to the BR area and then back out again.
BB: Robert, please go to the DR
Male voice; Hurry up Robert.
Another male voice: Robert, please put on your microphone (making fun of BB).
Robert dons the deoderant and opens the DR door.

FOTH

Cut to E & Jack in the TR - she is relating the HOH room conversation to Jack. How the girls explained the possible Dana nomination if veto was used. She thinks Robert & Jee will go up, but Nathan has to CHILL since Dana heard him say "this was the worst possible situation" (re: Dana getting HOH). E thinks that she has Dana convinced it was just a ploy, and that Dave & Jack were safe (i.e. she lied, she admits to Jack that she lied). She tells Jack that Dana thinks that even if Justin gets HOH, that Dana is still safe. E tells Jack that Justin has Dana "snowed".

Jack asked if Dana has talked to David yet tonight. E says that no, not yet, but she wants to talk to everyone.

Erika continues to recount the girls' conversation. Jack says that Dana needs a comfort zone within the original group. He says that Nate & Justin are in there now. He's going to see if he can get her into the TR now.

Cam 4 follows him out to the kitchen where he runs into Dave and asks if Nate is still in the HOH. So Jack heads outside. He finds Jee folding towels and starts to help. Erika is also in the patio, watching Dave wandering around the yard.
Then Dave offers to help fold as well. Erika goes back inside. Dave keeps saying "bam" with every dishtowel he finishes folding. With three hands, they are quickly done. Towels are carried into the house.
Now Jack is whistling (ed. obnoxious on those mics).
Dave asks Jee if he wants to play marbles. Looking for a better circle. Jack suggests chalk (if they had some). He then wanders closer to the HOH door. He and Erika stick their heads into the HOH doorway but don't go in. Cam 4 continues to follow Jack back out to the Dining room bar, he appears deep in thought.
David relates a story about a girl telling him that she "had to go, had to go take a $h(t". It was a "ranger girl". Someone honest and practical.

Cam 4 now cuts to HOH room where Ali is giving Nate a foot massage, and Dana is rubbing Justin well. Quick FOTH so can't tell whom they are talking about.
Justin feels good about having a full belly, recounts what he ate today. J&D agree that another day would have been really bad. Justin think they he has lost 15#, Dana thinks that she weighs only 100# now.
Ali has requested teddy grahms, raspberries, shrimp.
Dana: Skirt steaks
J: Anything is fine. I wouldnt want anybody to go on that diet, that is a horrible diet, it's not healthy.

Talk about massage, Dana wants one back from Justin tonight. He claims that she owes him a hand massage.
Nate trying to guess what song she listened to.
It's Incubus, with "Stellar", and "Drive" on it. Talk about the singer. Nate loves his voice, that this vocalist goes well with his band. Dana says he sounds exactly the same live as on the CD.

Ali comes in, accusing Nate of putting her elephant's head in the drawer. David's name is suggested. Then Nate heads out for his shower. Dana asks Ali if she is going to bed, she wants her pillow and blanket (the HOH will be too heavy). She offers them to Justin.

D: Justin may be coming to sleep with you tonight, Jun.
Jun: No he's not.

Cut to kitchen view of someone going out the back door. It's Robert sitting by himself, then he walks around. We get a stunning view of the covered HT. No HG in site, just the noise of Robert breathing and chewing (ed. again, with these mics, it's pretty obnoxious, oh my goodness, was that the sound of a fart????)

Camera has found Robert again, sitting in the chairs near the dryer (which is going). He's playing with his hair, feet are up on the stool.

(yeah, still here, following cam 4...someone else cover cam 1/2??? - I said I'd be hear until 1am, or until my fingers fall off).

Justareader

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 12:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Quad - HOH just, jun, dana

Dana - Spill the beans:
Justin - I have some much to tell you. Everyone wanted you on the block except erika and jun...
saying they voted michelle out cause they would not deal...he is saying "honest to God truth"
Dana - would love to call a meeting and call people out on this s**t, in front of everyone.
Just- really wants to call Ali and Jack in right now and do it. He is saying he is gonna call them out.
Jun - everyone tells me to talk to you (dana) what the F**K?
Justin is giving a good case.
They are really slamming Ali and Nathan.
Jus wants to call them in! drives him up the wall: the dishonesty, the phoniness, the lies, etc
Jun walks out
Dana is reassuring Just that he is safe. Now she is in a round about way talking about the original 8. Trying to explain y she believes the way she does...

feed 2/4 nate giving ali massage

Justin - talking about the RJJ alliance.
Dana - every one thinks you (justin) is biggest threat.
jun back (very quietly sitting there)

he is continuing to try to convince her they were betrayingher...
she is telling him what the girls told him...
jun - it was all an act, on ali's part especially
Jus - they will lie
jun - i would love to see ali nate's face if they got nommed.
Dan - Mf's are trying to lie to me....Ali just fed me a 5 course meal of BS....and now she is telling nathan everything.
Jun - at least erika keeps her mouth shut....
D - jun is my right hand man...

Konamouse

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 12:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 3, same view, just Robert, but now we get the closeup. Hands crossed over his belly, head back as if in thought. (ed. the quietness of someone homesick????) Camera pans back, then goes in close again.

Cuts to the inside (ed. thank ghod). The marble game just concluded. Nate has finished his shower and his towel clad body walks thru towards the bedrooms. Dave is wearing Amanda's hat, Erika still has on the army hat. Jee wonders if they have to keep the couch the same configuration.
Dave starts some partial joke about "money back" and "bare back" but Erika doesn't get it (has to do with not using a condom).
Ali asked if they liked her answer about why Justin was easier to fight - he's more her size.
Dave is lying on the ground, puts his feet in the air and Ali lies her belly on his feet, like an airplane. Then she says' "my turn" and changes places, balancing Dave on her feet.
The circle on the floor looks like Australia now.
Ali thinks she gets the bed to herself tonight, asked Nate if he is jealous. Now she gets a back massage from Nate. He has straddled her and she remarks that his butt is hot. He is trying to do her back and shoulders and she offers to move her tank top for him.
Nate doesn't think Dana is going to stay with the original plan. If she doesn't, then he says she is going to go up next week. Ali reports that she is going to put up Robert & Jee, it's sticking to the original plan and it's getting rid of her boyfriend. Nate says he is going to try to make some sort of deal with her (like if he gets the veto..he didn't even try for it last time).
Then he says he isn't going to kiss her ass. Ali says that Dana is unstable. Nate "honestly" likes Justin. Ali "we can keep him for you". Nate says that Jun thinks Dana is going after himself. Ali thinks that Justin is in the HOH for good tonight, Nate will have to wait until tomorrow to talk to her.
Nate is going to push for Robert & Jee. Ali coaches him on how and why Dana's name came up as a veto replacement (what the girls told her earlier).
N: If she puts me up, I'm going balls out for the veto.
A: if she puts anyone up, it will be Dave. He's being a jerk to her.
Nate talked to her the other day, asking why she was mad at him. He wants to win the money, but he'd be happy making it to the sequestering.
Ali reports that Robert has said he doesn't want to be sequestered. "Jun is sitting pretty".
Nate claims he isn't going to campaign against any of the other originals. He reminds Ali that Dana can change her mind "like that" (snaps fingers). Ali then tells him that Dana will go after the guys. If they get the veto, then she'll put up Justin. And that Dana & Justin already talked about it, that they are playing the game. Justin is going to be moving out to LA. Nate was more worried about Dana getting HOH than Justin or Robert (he didn't think that J or R would be coming after him). Ali says that Nate should still talk to her, but that she was going after Robert & Jee this week. Nate will use the "you honored who I put up, so I will honor who you put up" speech with her. He claims that he didn't want to win the veto this week, that he didn't try. Nate says that he'll remind Dana that her key was first (when he was HOH). Now he is second guessing himself at the HOH game tonight. He was so worried about hitting the buzzer first, he wasn't thinking straight, and now claims that he was lightheaded the whole day. He earlier asked Justin to save his ass this week and then he'd owe him one. Ali assures him that he has nothing to worry about, that he isn't the number one priority.

A: I feel bad about Michelle
N: So do I. I'm going to have the worse damn rating coming out of this house (talking about the kissing last night).
He claims he was only kidding when he called her over (to his bed).
Ali examines the wall a little closer and claims you can see the paint from last years house.
Nate stops the back massage, they are just lounging on the big bed. Nate doesn't trust Dana. "She's going to do anything to save her ass; lie, cheat, steal". Now he is worried that Michelle will think that he is the "biggest jerk in the world". Ali tells him that Michelle understands.
N: She was so nice
A: You can't be nice
N: you can
A: you can, but..
N: I don't break hearts like you, i'm not a heartbreaker
A: not me. You're like Roddy 2. That's your position in this house
N: I told them that is my game style, but that's not what I'm trying to do.
A: you are too.Don't be mad that you are coming off that way (i.e. using girls).
Nate denies using girls. Ali says he is the second worst. Then compares Nate to more notable bad guys. Now Nate complains about his sore knee. He's lost weight, skinniest ever. But now he is refreshed after eating. Ali finds something with a hotel logo on it (from the pre-show sequestering). He then asks Ali if she made a deal with Dana. Ali swears "no".
N: Robert has a bad attitude. I would never of said that about my exgirlfriend on tv.
A: He was like "I'm glad she's leaving"

Justareader

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 12:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
HOH -
still the same convo - kinda repeatin info and going in circles...Dana is convinced that they are after her.

Jus - dave nate ali jack told him they were gonna put jun v. dana

trashing Ali and how she is always around justin and how she says he's gotta go. Dana - gotta put up 2 of them and if they get POV i will put up another. We have got to stay together and vote one of them out, we will have the numbers.

D is giving good assessment of 2 sides of house and they can get rid of one and up their numbers.

Just - try to make a deal
dan - no one can be taken for thier word.

Jun and Dan - we hate the other 5 and would rather be with you

justin giving word swearing on the bible,etc that he and the Jee and Rob are straight up...

RJJ have agreed to take eachother off if they win the veto.

Trying to decide to put up.
Keep Erika - she is weak
Jun - jack is strong.. cut off by others

questioning y Jee did not put 2 of them... and one of them would be gone.

Dana - I gotta do noms tomorrow.
Jus - never do 2 things in one day

going to check with diary....

Konamouse

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 12:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 3/4 continues with Ali now giving a back massage to Nate.
Ali tells Nate that Dana heard what Nate said after the HOH. She then tells Nate to confess that he only said that because he is afraid that Dana is going after him. She coaches him about the "trying to find out if she was still in the alliance" line that she & Erika used on Dana earlier tonight.

During the back massage, Ali complains that Nate is hairy (ed. not even, she has never met my husband).
Nate can't see Ali & Justin together, their personalities are too different, even if opposites attract. Camera pans over to Nates bible on the windowsill of the room, then back to the massage session. Nate confesses that he and Justin were talking during the preshow sequestering (like in the elevator) and were getting in trouble for it.

FOTH

Justareader

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 01:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun - and Justin in HOH

Jun - you never approached dave and jack?
just - yeah but it was about them being safe,etc

dana back - noms tommorrow
foth....

back mid convo - if we have this meeting then I lose them all.
Jus- they can't defend themselves, I will ask them y did they all come 1 by 1 to ask for dana to be put up...
jun - they will come to patch things up. you need to see their side of the story (she is really playing the fence here) don't say "justin said this"
just - just ask me how to ask them. you are here because jee did not put u up for the POV.

Jun - put up ali and nate then one should be floundering - they will win comps. JED don't win comps.
Dan You think ali will come to our side?or nate? Nate more likely to .
discussion of strengths.
Jun - nate will come running to us and join us...
Dan - he will go where #'s are stronger
discussing who should go up against ali - she is the main target in Jun and Justin's mind....
this is crazy
Dan - didn't you see my anguished? quality move telling me to vote...they think I am with them...

Jun and Justin everyone will be coming to us to see what you are doing.
Jun- leave door open and see what happens.
Dana to wash hands

Konamouse

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 01:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Robert comes into the Red Room while Ali is still giving Nate the massage. Topic of conversation turns to Playboy. Ali would pose topless for $300,000. But she won't take off her bottoms.
Nate would not do nude, not even for $10 million. Ali said that she may not be able to do it. She claims that others have told her she'll be in Playboy someday (parents want her to buy them a car with that money). She says that her parents are cool; then she says that she was raised conservative republican (so was Robert, he claims) but now rebellious. Ali's family "hates" democrats. Nate asks Robert why he is Republican. Roberts says that his family is pro-business. Ali signed up as Republican because her family is Rep.
Nate asked why she wouldn't be a democrat.
Ali doesn't believe in the dem tax plan, that money the rich make should not go to the poor. That is Nate's pet peeve, why penalize someone for making money. He's tired of people asking for handouts. He point is that everyone can get grants to go to college.
Ali not happy with minorities getting free college - she & Nate are against reverse discrimination. WHy should she have to pay for college b/c she was born with blue eyes and blond hair. Her parents had to pay for everything, so did Roberts. Ali was not granted any loans b/c of how much her father makes. But her ex boyfriend goes for free b/c he is Asian (ed. hello - your parents paid, you didn't pay yourself...like some of us had to do).

(that's it, sorry, i can't type anymore, fingers bleeding)

Justareader

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 01:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana washing hands: jack telling her that the original 8 is the way to go and they have her back and it may be tough and everyone wants a piece of you. I just wanted to tell you what I was thinking... (missed some)
she is primping a little and back to hoh?

Justareader

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 01:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
kona - request help im still one 1/2 feeds

Konamouse

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 01:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 4 synopsis.
Jun comes into the room to report on the conversation from HOH room with Justin & Dana.
Then Erika & Dana come in and Nate gives her his version (as discussed with Ali earlier).
Dana appears to be giving them information about the "three".

Dana confronts Nate about the veto story; he relates the same story that everyone has been giving her all night. Erika also repeats it, and Jun reminds Dana that even without her, Erika would have stayed in the house.

She leaves and Jun comments "she's scared".
Then the two of them go into the HOH and close the door. Dana confronts Jun, "don't make me not trust you".

Jun tells her that she can't trust Justin or anyone 100%, but if there is a decision, "we have to stay in this together". Dana really wants to call everyone out in front of eachother. Now she wonders why Erika is part of every conversation after not talking to her all week. She asks Jun, who would you trust more? Justin and those guys didn't know about the original alliance and have not reason to....then stops what she is saying to go listen at the door at the other HG voices (Ali's is really loud).

Dana opens the door because Ali is arguing with Justin. Seems like one is accusing the other of "kissing the HOH's ass". Oh, Justin must have called her out for saying that Ali "hated" Dana last week.

Dana has opened the door, then gone back in to the room and is just sitting on the bed, listening to Ali & Justin's argument.

Dave pops out of the SR asking if anyone needs a rake (his attempt at levity?).

(okay, sorry folks, I am really out of here now, I just hope someone else can help out).

Lostintheglades

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 01:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Feed 3 - Dana and Jun in DR.

Dana opens the door to HOH....She and Justin are arguing.

Justin talking about Alison lying to him and how she wouldn't hesitate to lie to him.

She argues and says this is a game. Justin says he's not coming after her..She says she doesnt care if he is.

Says she was in HOH one time so son't blame it all on her.