July 17, 2003 - Day 13 - Food Challenge - Erika & Michelle nominated
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Ryn

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 08:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
David doesn't want to soak his in wate - just wants to wet it a little - Jun reads him the rules - but David makes a raspberry noise.

Erika rings out the shirt in the clothes ringer - Justin asks if the water is coming out - Erika makes fun of the way he says water.

Mechanical announcer voice asks them to raise the outside shades (better camera angle - all we have been seeing is their backs)

Jun spreads a shirt out on a plastic matt.

they have instructions that tell them how to shape the shirt in different ways for different patters. Bunching, spiraling...

jun

Ryn

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 08:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They sniffed the dye and said it smells terrible.

Jun is having problems - says it doesn't work - now putting rubber bands around the shirt.

Dave said he just tied it in a knot - he is sure thats not what you are supposed to do.


someone says they are doing arts & crafts.

depending on what you do (spiral vs bunching) you put on the dye at different times.

they keep reading the directions and they seem kinda clueless.

Dave puts his shirt in a soda ash solution for 20 minutes... others follow suit.

they are trying to keep track of whose shirt is whose by the kinds of rubber bands on them.

Ryn

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 08:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Choosing colors - I think purple is what they decided on.

cut to Jun and Dana - talking quietly, then louder and its about Dana cutting her cuticles or something - its all red.

Dana has asked if they have found out if they could have bagels and things like that - since its bread.

Justin and Alison say they don't see why not - but they wouldn't doubt if bb says no just to be that way.

they say to ask so she doesn't get a "penalty nom"

now Jun and Dana alone...

Jun "Nathan has had just about enough of you..."

Dana asks why - Jun says stuff - not sure what - tells her Alison was there too - that she kinda laughed.

Dana is mad - says he has balls the size of elephants...

Dana is flustered..

Dana - I haven't done enough for that F***king kid???


posting and need a break.....

Kira33

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 09:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack: If I get the veto, before I do anything, I'm not inclined to use it - (but) if jee tells me, I'll make (or did he say pick?) a substitute.
...They were offering - Rob and Justin, trying to hit everyone quick...(missed some of what he said here) before we could get our heads together,....didn't work. I'm the only one who insisted on the two who came up (they said) if you vote against Erika, we won't put you up...wasn't put to me - justin said we're gonna put Erika and we're gonna nominate you or David unless you agree not to put any of us up....I didn't make any deals, other deals.....

Erika: Hopefully you won't really have to, they're not gonna be focused on you b/c they're so focused on me....that was a fatal flaw, b/c even if I don't go, they're still gonna be coming after me...it's kind of like, I don't know, it's weird. I made fun of Jee in the diary room. I called him a puppet.

Ali comes outside.

Erika: I will understand if you do what you need to do (to further yourself in the game)...just know that I won't have any hard feelings...I mean it though from the bottom of my heart.

Jack: Dave and I will hover around you like
Erika: My brother and my Dad, the two things I wish I had more in my life.
Jack: I'd like to see you get the veto
Erika: I'd like to see me get the veto too. So if --- gets the veto, who's he gonna put up?
(missed some of the convo)
Jack: .....Jee will have fulfilled his obligation by nominating you...Dana seems to be adrift in no man's land right now.
Erika: She's scared.
(missed some of the convo)
Erika: It's so stupid to go after me - I'd go after Justin or Nathan (break him and Ali up, that would be the #1 thing)....I know how this game works, mentally - and uh....
Jack: You have a good grip on (the game?)

Ryn

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 09:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
9pm - Justin and Jee in the HoH room.

Jee says - "from the ghetto to the penthouse"

drinking dark beer

Justin says that he almost ran into 2 people today - staff members coming in to work - he got 3 feet from them and they backed up away and went back where ever they came from.

They discuss soundproofing the HoH room

they exchange stories about places they have taken girlfriends (poconos, theme hotels)

Jee - "mirror on the ceiling is niiiiccceeee"

Cam switches to Erika/Jack outside.

Erika telling Jack he is safe as long as she is in there because they are gunning for her.

Erika says she made fun of Jee in the DR - called him a puppet.

Alison comes by - 7 1/2 minutes.. (tye dye)

Erika says that she won't have any hard feelings against jack, no matter what he has to do to stay in the game - jack appreciates it - says he and Dave will hover around her.

Erika says "like my brother and my dad - two peopel I wish I had more of"

discussing what might happen if michelle gets veto.

hopefully she will save herself and Jee will put up Dana.

Erika says nathan is a good player.

Jack says the stuff they discussed all night last night fell into their laps.

{posting and breaking....)

Ryn

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 09:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
apparently the staff screwed up Erikas casserole and it had liver and they said it had something else....

Erikas was Catus and liver

Jacks was oysters and brussel sprouts

they had them reversed.

but both teams were wrng so it didn't matter

Sbeachy

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 09:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Quad cam

Jack and Erika talking on patio, erika says she made fun of jee in the DR, called

him a puppet. (using a high funny voice, and moving her hand like a sock puppet.)

erika says nate is a good player, very good

jack says yeah, yup, sticking to the plan

e saying that they are so stupid for going after me, there are other's better

she knows how the game works, mentally

jack says that she has a good grip on the game

jack, if they keep running the hoh comp on the live show, most will have to be

mentally, they won't have time to any physical

erika wishes dav had been on there team for the food comp.

erika reliving the food comp.

liver has a very distinct tast ya know(lol)

erika was cactus and liver

jack was oysters and brussells

ok, back to tye dying

Ryn

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 09:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They have just bee tye dying - I haven't been listening but the scene is the same.

They seem to be finishing up.

Someone says they are going to be some seriously ugly shirts.

1

Sbeachy

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 09:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
jun says her shirt is gonna be seriously ugly, alli is saying that the shirt she made for nathan is better then the one she made for herself. alli just might have to trade out, and nathan will have the baby shirt(I'm confused, maybe dana made nate's)
there was some funny banter between jun and jee, jun was saying oh jee your such a perfectionist, (he seems very intent on doing a excellent job)
Alli and justin also kind of had some silly banter, (kind of like girlfiend's sticking up for each other-I mean jun and alli, that is)

NATHAN PUT ON YOUR MICROPHONE!!
big pauses in between, like BB was yelling at him, they all laugh, saying was that the recorded one or what.

they gonna grab some beers(?)

NATHAN PLEASE GO TO THE DIARY ROOM
they're really on his case, or something, wasn't that the same voice as the last one, sounded different(don't know who was saying which)

they didn't get any beers from the SR before nate went in DR

everyone is getting all bit up by bugs

talk about they can make sugar and jelly sandwiches

the tye dye tint got all over alli's feet and legs, just says oooh the direction's say stays on for 6-8 weeks, jun's hands are stained badly, alli jokes that oh, and your manicure girl


alli and jun in kitchen are we gonna work out or what, jun says just wants to go to sleep, stressful day, ok, whatever, i'll do crunches.

robert says of boring it when you can't eat, it's already boring but...

posting

Izzywhat

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 10:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Quadcam -- 9:45 BBT

BB -- In a VERY stern, non-recorded voice, "NATHAN put ON your microphone!

HGs -- Whoa! That wasn't recorded!

Hgs having fun in the backyard tie-dying shirts. Jee says that was a lot of fun.

BB -- Nathan, please come to the DR

Now all feeds in the LR.

David on the floor exercising. Dana sitting on the couch.

Feeds switch to K with Ali and Jun. Jun whispers something to Ali and they laugh.

Feeds switch to LR where Ali, Robert, Michelle, Justin and Dana are.

R - It's f-g boring man!

Ali gets down on the floor and starts to exercise and Robert stares intensely.

R -- What time is it?

A -- 10 o'clock?

R -- Is the tub still on?

Jun now exercising with Ali and Dana says she should be doing it too.

All feeds are on these two girls. Nothing at all being said except for the counting in time to the moves.

Sbeachy

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 10:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
dana and robert on the hammock, she's talking about nate, seems as if she is feeling that nate is being cold to her. she says she knows he's cranky today but, he, i don't know...she tells robert that, hey don't say nothing but, i tell you more than i tell any of these other people. he was like, yeah yeah.

she's catching on that nate is avoiding her, thinks he is talking to the other girls, wants to know what they are saying, question nate about it earlier, he avoided her questions.

there is boxing going on in the background, i think alli against nate, cause dana shouted out-no offense girl, but he's got a longer reach. dana and robert shouting out encougagement to alli. dana says work his body, work his abs, nate says yeah, work my body baby. musch laughing. feeds change to jun in kitchen.

jun and mich, jun at counter, saying i don't think he made the decision by himself.
mich says that jee made a slip, told her he couldn' t break the alliance with the other guys(ed. he did)
missing some, but mich goes on to say that jee doesn't trust dana so much, she is so obviously switching sides.

jun reeinforces that david wants one of them -mich or erika- to get the veto, take themselves off, put dana up, everyone agrees.

can't keep up posting

Aremid

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 10:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana and Robert are talking about Nathan, and Dana tells Robert that he said he was about sick of her. He told it to one of the girls and she told Dana

Dana said she went up to him and said "What's the deal?" and he said "What kind of question is that?'
Dana - I was just saying hi
She said he then walked off
Dana - I know he is cranky today but...
Dana asks Robert not to tell anybody, that she tells him things that she doesn't tell anyone else.

Dana...I think I pissed him off because I opened my mouth ( missed some)

They then laugh at something Justin and Ali are doing
Robert - come on Ali - Come on Ali...Come on Ali
Dana - do exactly what you were doing on the bed
Ali in the back ground was saying something like..first time...you're scaring me?
Dana - work his body
Justin - work my body
Justin - why would I turn my back against you
Ali - Dana said you were supposed to turn the other way
Dana - I didn't say that
Ali - yes you did
Dana - ok, I said that
Ali - not talk while I work on my strategy

Inside
Jun - I don't think he made the decision on his own
Michelle - no he didn't, the boys have an alliance...he said they did....I can't go against the boys
Jun ... they are exchanging dirty looks at each other
Mi - it also has to do with Justin
Female - but Ali doesn't have any feelings for him
Mi - but she doesn't like to see it in front of her...there is no point to even say anything...we can't talk to her...it is not like anything...its over...if we could, we would try to straighten things out...but there is no point... if I use the veto or Alison gets it...using it to put her own
Jun - that is what everyone wants to do, that is what David told everyone to do
Mi says she wouldn't mind because that wouldn't hurt them ( words to that affect)
Jun - but she is sneaky though
Jun - has N said anything about it to you
Mi - not to worry - that I'm safe, ....you never know
Jun - in this house, you never know..
Jun - what if Dana wins the competition
JUn- Dana would still take you off over Erica - that's true, but then we can't put her up
Mi - maybe they would
Jun says she thinks they can't put the veto winner up
Mi - she stresses everybody out - I don't get stressed out about stuff like this, and she is stressing me out - I think she is a nice girl and outside the house I really like her
Jun talks about how Dana is if she sees people talking, she thinks they are talking about her
Mi says the other day Dana asked her if somebody was talking about her
Mi - it was just like it made me crazy
Jack comes in and gets something from the refrigerator
Jun says she is going to the bathroom and will be right back

Michelle continues to sit at the table
In the background you can hear HGs very loud outside

Izzywhat

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 10:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Quadcam -- 10:05 pm BBT

Ali and Jun have moved to just outside the BR. LR is now empty.

Jun - I never work out in front of anyone.

Ali suggests a different exercise and Jun says Ali must be on crack.

Some of the guys come by and ask if they can get in there before the girls do anything. Robert steps over Ali.

Jee getting ready to use HT. Jee thinks he'll let it warm up a little. One of the guys says he's going to do Nate's shirt.

Robert and Dana in hammock.

Dana telling Dave she thinks they're mad at her because she's not kissing their a__ anymore. She tells him about going in the back room this afternoon and asking the girls "what's the deal?" They say "what deal?" She says, "just hi, hey, hello." "That's when they told me that Nate's about sick of me now." Robert says he thinks they told her the truth.

Dana repeating all her worries to Robert. Other HGs yell something to Robert about the shirts and he yells right back. Joking, in a good mood. Even Dana doesn't seem too stressed. D & R getting a big kick out of whatever they're seeing, but we are not seeing it.

R -- Come on Ali!

Both of them laughing hard.

R -- Come on Ali!

Ali - F you! It's my first time!

D - Do the same thing you were doing on the bed. Working fine Ali, working fine.

Nate - Work my body, work it over, baby.

D - Kick 'im. So, apparently Ali is kick boxing or boxing for the first time.

Feeds switch to kitchen.

Michelle - The boys definitely have an alliance.

Michelle doesn't mind if the veto is used to get Erika off, because she doesn't threaten her, and used to put up Dana if everyone else would vote off Dana.

June assures her she isn't going anywhere.

BB - Justin, please move your microphone higher.

Jun trying to find the Rules of Veto in the BB Rule book, but it's not in there.

Michelle can't believe this has happened and Jun says she turned psycho (Dana).

Michelle -- She's like crazy. I mean she's like a nice girl. She's like so paranoid.

Jun -- I don't think she realizes how hard she is to live with.

Mi -- I was like sitting on the like couch the other day and like Dana came in and she's like, and moved her head to like motion to me and I'm like...

Jack comes into the room. Says something about a volleyball game.

Jun is making sandwiches in the K. Tells Mi she's going to use the BR and will be right back.

Mi sitting in a yellow k chair, eyes darting from left to right, arms folded. Then she gets up and goes to the BR to powder her nose. Walks back into the k and walks around. Sits back down in a yellow chair and assumes previous position.

HGs shouting fun from the patio.

Mi looks very sad and pouty sitting there by herself.

Pictures of Ali outside through k window punching.

2 feeds change to outside.

Nathan and Ali actually boxing. Having a great time. She tells Justin to shut up, she has gloves on, he doesn't. Justin was off camera.

Jun out of WC and washed her hands.

Jun back to K. No audio in K. Audio on boxing. Applause. "Great job, Ali."


Posting 10:30 pm BBT

Deedee

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 11:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun and Nate used Ali's bra to hang her stuffed animal in the bathroom.
see picture here

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Ali finds it says that SUX

David and Justin laughing saying that was a good one.

Sbeachy

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 11:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
all 4 feeds

nate and jun just did something funny with someone's bra and stuffed elephant, put by the shower cam i believe.

nate and jun back in kitchen, jun eating, they are talking about, I believe sticking to the original 8, not sure.

nate asks jun, is mich in bed, jun was like yeah, nate says to jun, well i'll go snuggle with her, cause your ignoring me. jun was like whatever, i'm not,anyway.

nate crwls into bed with mich, they both complain about no food, camera is flashing to stuffed elephant in the BR, then to jun on the LR couch(is she listening in??)

oh, mich and nate decide to move to the other end of the room, cause it's too light in the BR. nate says that, oh, they'll be up all night drinking, mich was like yeah, and they should have done the whole house, this sucks, only the second week. mich asks where's jun, nate says no idea. they both agree they are tired going to go to sleep. i think mich asked him if he was gonna sleep in his flip-flops, he didn't answer.

jun walked across the room on f1&f4 and appeared to pick up the bb instructions, and is reading them with a bowl of m&m's next to her. one of the guys flip-flops into the lr, and asks jun, where's everyone, sleeping, she says yeah.

switches to br, alli pulling the elephant down, justin was there, yes it was alli's bra, she yells out NATHAN!!! just was laughing, alli goes to br where nate is with mich and gives him s''t

posting

Sbeachy

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 11:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
alli just threw a picher of ice water on justin? in the shower.

dave was in the kitchen and said, what was that for?

alli said, just cause he's living!

dave is singing(off key) peanut butter and jelly!!

just says from the shower, that stuff was cold, alli was like what else was it supposed to be? he was like i never would have guessed...WARM?!

Izzywhat

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 11:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
10:45 pm F1

Jun and Dana in K looking at pictures and book. Whisper something to each other.

D - I'm going to bed in about 10 minutes. Jun, come to bed and cuddle with me!

Jun - (whiny voice) I don't want to go to bed now!

Dana complains about not being able to eat.

Erika comes out of BR in her bikini and put on her purple robe and heads outside.

Jun complains that the ice bowl is almost empty and she just filled it.

Michelle joins them and talks about going to bed. Says she feels like she's been crying but it's from the sun.

Dana asks Jun if she's going to the SR and she says "yes, I'm the ice lady."

Dana - I'm going to bed now. What are you doing?

Jun - I'm gonna have a soda and a snack and then I'm going to bed.

Feed changes to BR where MI is doing something with her eyes over the sink. Blotting eyes with tissues -- a lot. Still blotting.

Feed changes to patio.

Robert is standing up, the rest out there are in chairs. Jack, Nathan,David,Dana...

Jack is talking about the casseroles being wrong and he says they'll say "Erika and Jack got it right, so screw you guys" and then he laughs.

Dana talking about the food comp and she's sure she didn't have oysters either. Not slimy. She wants to go "in" and bring it up. She says those guys don't have to because they won, but she'd like them to take it into consideration.

Jack says Erika brought it up because she knew she was tasting liver and not oysters. Robert says they shouldn't have to go through that s*** if BB was wrong. Dana thinks they should review the tape and checkout the stuff coming out of her mouth.

Nate gets up and says he's going to bed. Dana had a little nap while the rest were eating dinner.

Dave is turning the giant hour glass over and over. Jack asks him what the normal time in a regular game of chess it holds (the hour glass) and Dave doesn't know.

Feed changes to BR with Nate and Jun. They're laughing and leave to go into k.

Feed jammed so switched to Quadcam. Audio is on HT. Justin, Erika, Robert and Jee. Justin gets out of HT and jumps in pool to cool down.

F1 & F2 on HT (very loud background noise)
F3 & F4 in BR where Nate is brushing teeth.

Nate leave BR and runs into Jun in the K and he says "Why are you always making food?" Jun says she's not. Drops it.

Jun tells Nate Mi wants Dana put up.

Nate is smelling the food Jun is making and tells BB it's not very nice they don't have food. Nate says he's gotta get away from that food and he's going to bed.

Nate crawls in next to Michelle. He says Mi didn't take a shower and she says he didn't take one either. Nate says it sucks going to bed on an empty stomach.

Mi -- and there's like nothing to do! We went in the HT...

Nate -- you're pretty feisty.

Mi -- Yep! My SKIN is DISGUSTING! I've NEVER been this DARK!

Nate -- We've ate good for 2 1/2 days from however long we've been here. Going from eating meat 3x's a day to eating nothing, I'm about to freakin die!

Mi -- uh huh and I was like eating Atkins for like 3 months. Eating really healthy.

Silence.

Nate -- I'd love to have Doritos right now. Even eating potatoes was better than this. Potatoes and chips.

Mi -- It sucks. It really does.

Nate -- I don't know why they have to do it so long. Three days would be enough.

Mi -- ONE day would be enough. I've already had toast and jelly and peanut butter and jelly and...

Nate -- You gotta have food to have energy.

F1 and F3 zoom in to see Jun eating. (ed. Very much reminiscent of Amy eating the cheese)

Nate -- Takes me forever to get to sleep when I'm hungry.

Mi -- It really sucks!

Posting 11:08 BBT

Sbeachy

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 11:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
shot of jun reading the rules with alli, robert, and maybe a few other's, on the couches. she reads out loud. ok, someone help me here, what does this mean? under no circumstances can the HOH reveal his/her choices for nomination's/evictions? (not sure which she said, but right after she said it feeds switched to ht)

Izzywhat

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 11:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
(Quick post I heard but was not transcribing.)

Jun was reading out loud from the rule book "No HOH shall tell another house guest if they are putting them up for nomination..."

Feed immediately changed to other Hgs.

Sbeachy

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 11:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
(just lost my first post due to file locking-YIPEE)

RECAP, justin retaliated with a bucket of water.

pb&jer's discussing a competition, who can eat the most in 1 day(edited to add-pb&j's)

making a craps board, and playing cause they are so bored!

found the puzzles to do.
(trying to post again, and using dreheid's notepad instuction's from now on!)

Izzywhat

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 11:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Feed 1 -- 11:30 pm BBT

Dave and Dana in K. Dave is on his 7th pb&j sandwich.

Jun has been called into the DR.

Robert comes in and they're talking about craps. Dana doesn't know how it works but she knows you need a 7 or 11 or a point or something. Craps discussion now with Dave and Dana. Justin in k with them.

Kitchen snack talk going on.


Posting and taking a break. 11:36 BBT

Sbeachy

Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 11:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
feeds switch from kithcen to couches, alli is saying to robert that she remembers

exactly when it happened, then she stopped talking and changed the subject.

alli walks back to kitchen, talks about juns b-day.
they tell jack to put on mic, the call him to the DR.

(i missed a convo a few mins ago between jee and rob? in the hoh. i think it was

about dana, who told her? did alli? can we trust jun?)

dana had 6 pbj's today, then changes and says, maybe 5

it appears that they can only have white or wheat bread for the pb'sno muffins

alli crunching a green apple at table, jun sitting close by, i think jun said

quietly, he hate's that i told them...

erika and ? doing dishes, water too loud, erika goes and sit at table with alli,

juns back. alli appears to have a big bruise on her leg from ? they are telling

her to ice it, or throw a steak on it...don't know if it is boxing with nate, or

wrestling with justin...ok, sounds like it's the ice water/justin episode bucket

episode.

evidently alli got a bad bruise wrestling justin in the bathroom with the bucket of

water.(hope i'm making sense here, i think the girls are working something here,

don't know WHAT though!)

feeds timed out posting