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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Big Brother IV - July 2003 Live Feed Archives: July 23, 2003 - Day 19 - Michelle Evicted - Dana HoH: Archive through July 23, 2003

Bookgirl137

Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 07:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dave's analysis:

She has Dana, Justin, Robert, Jee, and Jun could go that way.

We have Dave, Jack, Erika, Ali, Nate and maybe Jun.

If Jun goes that way, they can vote one of us out this week and they have the numbers. Game can reverse that quickly.

Ali: Her easiest way out is Robert and Jee, vote Jee. Then she'll still have Robert and Justin, and our votes too.

Nate and Ali don't think she'll put up Justin.

Dana comes out: I think that now that the young girl's out we'll get real alcohol.

Ryn

Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 07:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dave has joined the 3 stooges in the blue room - lots of laughing and joking - Jun there too.

(just checkign in during commercial)

Bookgirl137

Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 07:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack tells Dana that they have to keep the original alliance intact. After all the exes out can decide what to do.

Dana upset because swore to Michelle that she wouldn't vote against her. Broke Nate's heart.

Lockdown inside. Dana gets nameplates first. Voice tells her to put them back.

Bookgirl137

Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 07:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Justin about something: I'm supposed to take your word after what just happened?

Talking about Michelle and nate kissing. Justin was watching and saw the covers moving. [Ed. So, I guess all the guys like to give a little goodbye something].

[Dana, please go to DR]

Deciding on beds.

Justin, after some chatting, Well, it is my last week.

Aremid

Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 07:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana and Justin are in the bedroom
Justin says something
Dana - I was trying to tell you guys something
Justin - ...like if anything happens in the game don't take it personal ( somebody said that to him?)
Jun came in
Dana - Justin is going to sit with me...I'm having a round table....bi--- in town, I don't play these secret games, I want to know
Jun - just don't nominate me, ok
Justin- I was really ready just to walk out that f----- door
Dana - if Ali got it?
Justin says yes
Dana...was my goal...mission accomplished
Jun says something
Jun - have your moment
Justin - Dana, Dana, I would never hold that against you.
Dana - I've been thinking about that for days...what I told you was true
Just- ...every single one of them, won't hesitate
Dana - no majority in the house, there can be
Just - I don't want to talk game, I'm tired of talking game
Dana - you don't want to be king and queen
Just - we can talk
Dana- we can talk later
Then they talk about massages
Just - this is your day, I should honor that
Dana says she will hook him up
Dana says she hope something isn't in her basket...that that is so ghetto...there are no more 19 year olds in the house, she wants some licquor...she don't care what happens after this point
Jee - can't believe sitting here two days ago
Dana - try yesterday morning, when my stomach was hurting
Jee - well you all did a good job, I'll give you that
Dana - you promised that girl, and I just kept going
Jee - what the f--- just kept going what the f---
Dana - did anybody look at anybody
Jee - I looked at Mi and she was going
Male - then I looked at me
Robert - then I saw Dave look at me, and I'm like Dave it wasn't me
Jee - when I hugged her, I go I really didn't know Mi
Male says he doesn't want to do something
Dana - you don't want to kiss my a--
Male - I kiss your a-- everyday
Robert says HOH isn't much anymore cause if you don't listen to the house, they kick you out, that's the way it works
Jun or Dana one said something about what Erica said and then the other says Oh my God, I would have been pissed ( something about food and pizza)
Lots of laughter in the room
Robert - I told you, when people went in there I thought they did it wrong, I thought they said I vote to keep Michelle ( like the HGs voted wrong)
Dana ...the way I feel..
Male - don't go screwing yourself
Jee - do what you have to do
Dana - I had to vote that way to insure my safety this week, in case I didn't get HOH
Male says something to the effect he thought people wouldn't play that way...look you in the eye ( people telling you one thing and doing another, thought they'd play honestly? - that's what I got from it anyway)

Dana - why is everybody stressing out there Erica...why is everybody stressing, can't we have some f------- fun

Jee3 are discussing things in the house
Robert - they wanted to get her out and we said no
Male - I dont' want to play the game, I'm not going to play it at all
Male - if you get it use it on yourself...don't use it...we're f------- going out, we don't have the numbers anymore
male - I'm playing dumb because I actually feel that way right now
Robert - our faces dropped
Robert - if I was them I'd want to get us out too
Robert - if we were to be in this house f--- everybody,...like if ali got it we're f-----, at least
One of them says the alliances are obvious
One of them says something about Jack and Dave, and not take it personally
Male - said to him are we going to be cool after
Jee - like Jee I just want to apologize...watch your back...the only thing I could say at that point, is at least you did keep up our bargain, our did, and in a way they did
Male - they did, we got got ( said in a good natured way)
Male - that was f------ great
Justin - I don't feel bad at all, it worked out, it worked out great
Jee - you did keep up our deal, I respect that ( think he talked to Jack maybe)
Dave is in there now, not sure how long he has been in there
Robert is telling him how he thought David thought he, Robert had voted against Mi
and how he thought there was a mistake in the DR
Jee - I just felt like I didn't know anything more at that point
David - and the whole time we were scheming we thought, they know what is going down
Justin - I kinda had an idea after you didn't use the veto
Robert - I sure as h--- didn't think it was going to be this week
jee- I saw it coming and I didn't want to believe...I saw it coming...I thought it was a tie
Robert - that was a good move, the best thing I've ever seen on BB
David - right now, its up in the air, Dana is paranoid about everything, you couldn't say anything to Dana...
Male - Dana was the one person on your side that you guys probably didn't want to get it
David tells them about telling Dana yesterday and how she reacted...she doesn't believe that now dude
Robert - we were putting two and two ....now I understand of course
Robert - you thought it was a mistake right
They are laughing and talking - Jun has joined them
Jun says something about Nathan and last night, and one of the males says he heard them
David asks Jee what he thought
Jee says he never assumes in this game
David - putting the xs in they knew sh-- was going to go down
BB - this is a lockdown, pull down the shades until further notice
male -I'm not going to think anymore, I don't think I have the ability to think anymore
Male - I don't think I've ever seen Erica so happy
They talk about Robert's farewell speech, and he says he'll do it again
Robert - ...she is beautiful, prettier in person.. ( don't know who he is referring too)
Nathan comes in and they talk about where somebody lives and they ask Nathan if he is going to stay in contact with Mi
Jee - you really do care for her
Nathan - yeah,.....
Dana is in there now too
They talk about what was heard last night
Male - are you 100% sure you heard them hooking up
Lots of talking, laughing, can't understand it all
Male - lots of pecking
Nathan - there was no tongue, there was no tongue, ...it was like maybe 15 seconds
Female - that is what she said, that you were good, you opened your mouth, you closed your mouth
Looks like about all the HGS are in there now
They start talking about food

(Ed..it may be all an act, but Jee 3 seem to be taking the turn around good naturedly, and seem impressed that the other group pulled it off)

Ryn

Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 07:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun/Nathan/Alison on Cam 1/2/4

Jack, Erika, others on Cam 3


Jun says Dana wants everyone to talk to her..

Jun guesses that this week it will be Jack or Dave....

Ryn

Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 07:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun - its important no one gets into an argument with her cause thats who she will nominate...

Ali - has she mentioned me?

Jun - she hasn't mentioned anyone yet

Ryn

Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 08:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun/Ali on cam 1/2

Jack, Justin, others on Cam 3/4

Erika comes in...

Erika says she does trust us because she voted with us....

Jun says it wasn't trust as much as numbers...

Ryn

Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 08:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Other names coming up......

Jun says when they heard 6-2 Robert thought that Dave and jack had voted for Erika - then they heard michelle and were shocked...

Jun and Erika seem to be listeningto the other room, so not talking...

Bookgirl137

Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 08:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ali, Nate, and Jun in "Love Room".

Ali: I tried so hard.

Ali or Jun: Oh F, it's going to be ugly.

Jun: It's important that no one get into an argument with her, or she may make an emotional decision.
A: Has she mentioned me?
J: She hasn't said anything yet.

Nate leaves, Dave enters. Dave thinks Nate's sister is cute. They don't think Jack's daughter is.

A: She's going to piss a lot of people out.
J: It's worked for her until now. Doing something different and crazy.

Dave is gone, Erika is in.

E wants J to speak on her behalf.

J doesn't know if Dana's vote was trust or just numbers. J says that whenever she tries to talk to Dana, Dana says she already knows and won't listen.

E: I love that Robert said that.
J: When they heard 6-2 they thought Jack and Dave voted for you, then were shocked.

Listening to outside conversation, Ali gone. E and J laughing. Think they're talking about how shocked they are.

(I'm just doing my best, missing some)

Dave back in room.

E: She's probably just bouncing around in there (Dana in DR).
J: I know, why can't she just calm down.
Dave talking to J, have to make her believe that Jee3 were going to put her up.

D: I can just tell her once.
J: Yeah. Can't convince her by telling her again and again.
D might have said he told Dana he suggested Jee3 put her up. Jun doesn't look happy.

Bookgirl137

Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 08:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun thinks she'll put up Robert and Jee. Least people pissed off.

Dave says Jee wants to go home. Jun: Do we tell him we're going to send him home?

J: I don't know what the F she's going to do. She's a problem child. She'll listen to something I say for like two seconds then it's out the other ear.

Dave leaves room.

Ryn

Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 08:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 3 - bad audio....

Cam 4 - sounds like all on-person mics are off - sounds like you are listeing fromt he kitchen...

Cam 1 - Dave talking to Jun.......

Dave says he told Dana what went down...

Jun - Nathan and Alison told them to put her up.....

Dave - someone told dave that if he told dana (about the plan), they would tell Dana not to put him up if he got HoH...

They are not sure who she might put up..


Jun - you think she is serious that she is going to make everyone sit around the table and say.....

Dave - like fing kindergarden..

Dave - you can say things like Jee wants to go home.....

Jun - do we tell him that? That we know he said it?

Jun - you are just feeling really diplomatic about it?? laughs...

Jun - I don't get her some times, tell her something and it registers and then she forgets it...

Ali yells at dave "david, way to go" (not sure about what....

(No sign of Dana so she might be in the DR getting the HoH key or something)..

All hgs except Dana seem to be in the blue room

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Ryn

Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 08:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
group

Dipo

Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 08:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 3/4 Ali, Erica, Jack, Nate on a long view can't really hear convo, switching to cam 4

Okay, Jusin, Je and Robert in room too, they are talking about questions we all should know , if we just had the time. Nate says you get 5 seconds you don't want to take the time. Laughing.

Talking about there answers on the HOH competition. Ali is in the romm now, she is asking david where he is. Dave says lets just start droppin dimes. and now he joins the group. Not a really good camera angle. Ali is playing with her hair, and now Jun comes in.

Wish they would pull the camera out and give me individual mics. She had the hardest time drawing the line between the game. that was the best way for her to go. she was crying all week. she is a nice kid. she is a nice kid. Jack says I wouldn't let my 19 year old in here. All these people are in the blue bedroom

posting

Bookgirl137

Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 08:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
More Michelle talk, most everyone in blue bedroom. Dana in DR. Jun leaves to change.

Nate thinking about getting drunk.
Jus: You're going to get drunk off one beer and Ali's going to take advantage of you.

Jus: Us 3 going to be in the DR all night tonight.

Ali couldn't look at them. Robert knew by looking at Dana that it was all planned. Jus and Jee looked at Michelle. Felt horrible.

Jee: You guys are just crazy. Just get away. I'm going to sleep. I feel like the stupidest freaking kid.

There is something about a picture, I don't know exactly what's going on with that.

Aremid

Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 08:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ali - we'll go after her probably if she doesn't go along...she needs to think about that
Jun, Ali, and Erica are talking in the bedroom
Jun is whispering that they thought jack and david something ( means Jee 3)
In the background can hear the guys still talking it over , laughing
Jun and Erica are laughing
male - got the message...play the game
Male - just don't know anything
Jun laughs at this
Female - where is Dana
Female - In the diary room right now
Female - says they are asking Dana who do you want out now, I don't know I don't know...and they laugh
David - in order for her to believe us or you, you have to get the info right from the boys
Jun is whispering and background noise is loud
David - tell her how it went down...probably need to run around
Very low whispering
David - cause I told her, you know why, because they told me if Dana gets HOH, we'll make sure she doesn't put you up Dave
Dave - they were like we had no idea
More laughing
Jun says something about her putting up Robert and Jee (don't know if she said she would or wouldn't)
Jun - do you think she'll really put everyone around the table
They talk about something Jee had said about sequestering and home, and David says - we all know he has been saying that...she'll probably go and ask him
Jun - she'll listen to something I say and then in two seconds its out the other year
Female -David
David - What
Female - where'd it/you? fu---- go
David - I dont' know....let's just cry over spilled milk, lets just drop f------ dimes...just drop dimes
(RP communicating)
Back in the blue bedroom
Talk of ali wearing Mi's dress, and Ali said she told her she'd give it back to her, and Ali says Mi has her shirt
Nathan said Mi took things so personally couldn't separate from the game
Erica says she had to go, that it was too much for her, she was 19
Jack says he wouldn't let his daughter come in
They talk about drinking beer and playing bball
Something is said about the nomination ceremony
Jack - 3 hours long
Male - nobody's safe
One of them talks about being in the DR all night long
Robert says Dana face let him know it was all planned
A couple of them say they couldn't help but look at Mi
Jun - you dirty, made out with her
Nathan - we didn't make out, I kissed her
Ali - male wh---
Ali and jun want to know how long
He says not long

Nathan - I hate ??
Ali - BBs a Bas----
BB - Justin come to the DR
They all laugh
Ali - they are cracking me up
Jun asks Dana (who has come in) if Justin is sleeping with her tonight
Dana - nathan is sleeping with me tonight
nathan - I have to...I'll dye my hair dark
They say like in jail he can be the b----

Prism72

Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 08:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Robert told Dana he didn't understand why everyone would vote to evict Michelle over Erica. So, Dana told Robert about the original alliance. They were doing some whispering but then others came walking into the kitchen.

Bookgirl137

Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 08:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nate: I didn't make out with her. I kissed her, that's all.

Jun: How long

N: Like two seconds. He claims it wasn't even a french kiss.

[Justin, please go to the DR]

Jus: Everybody going to watch me go in, F'ing excellent.

Dana comes in.
Jun: Is Justin going to sleep with you tonight?

Dana: Nate is going to sleep with me tonight.
Nate: I got to, I'm not safe. I'll dye my hair dark for you.
Jun: It's like prison. You're her bitc*.

Dana: No pecking tonight.
Nate: So the real deal.
Jun: She told me like 10 seconds.
Nate: There was no tongue.
Dave comes in to talk about M's tongue, and FOTH.

Nate: My mouth might have been open for like a second.

Dave: There was never any tongue with us.
Jun: So you never made out?
Dave: I was reaching into her mouth trying to draw it out.
Everyone hates it when others don't kiss back.

Nate keeps insisting on just pecking M. A & J say how do that for 10 to 15 seconds? N says pecking, talking, pecking, etc. Ali and Jun- EW Nate is a talker while kissing.
Nate: Not while I'm kissing, as I back away.

Camera switches to kitchen:
Dana telling Robert that they grabbed her two hours before vote and she had not choice. Rob wants to know why evicting M was better. Dana says because they are in an alliance. Dana says Rob can not repeat anything she tells them.

Aremid

Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 08:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana talking to Jee and Robert
Dana - they got me an hour before I had to vote
Robert - I think it is a great move...
Somebody walks by, Dana looks around, and whispers something about not being seen talking to people
Robert - Justin and I are totally ? - In or out
Dana - I told you 3 days ago, David is up to something...now you know
More people come into the kitchen
Dana is eating some fruit or something and is just happy to be eating something
They are saying there is no food

Kuchi

Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 08:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana told robert that whatever she tells him from this point on he cannot repeat and he told her well you know me and justin are tight and she said well you know i am not putting him up. end of convo as others joined. now talking about food

cams moved to jack dave and jee and general talk about the game...jee saying good move

Aremid

Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 08:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack - we appreciate that
jee says you can't strategize weeks ahead...can't predict...guess that is why it is good tv
David - my question to you, if I had used the veto who would you have put up
Jee - we'll never know, and that is how it is going to be
Jack - good answer..its in your head isn't it
jee - I also think that people, not trying to be paranoid, people might see me after Mi as the young minded person in this house, and that could be in the house, could be, how much committment at home, ...you never know in this house, and that is the way it is going to be
Jee - full of surprises...you guys did it good
Jack -doesn't last very long
Jee - now I just want to eat something...so to sleep. tomorrow is another day
Jee - I commend you guys on that, you did your plotting very well, it wasn't expected
Female comes in - is he crying
Jee - NO! I've never cried once in this house and I won't

Aremid

Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 08:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack and Jee having a discussion
Jee thinks people may see his commitment to home as a weakness
Jack says he really misses his family - he just doesn't talk about it
Jee says he does, that is just the way he is
They talk about finding allies sometimes in places you don't really look
Jack - sometimes Jee friends aren't where you are looking
Jee - especially in this house
Jack - I mentioned to jee that erica led the effort to keep him here (another male came in)
Jee - I appreciate that
They talk about the time, and last week it was almost 3 hours before they ate after the show
Jee...I'm still stunned, I sorta suspected it, but I didn't want to beleive it, ...I did try to protect her, she will see that on the tapes, she really will, I did my best to protect her, it was out of my hands at that point, it is good for her, I agree with everyone, It was good for her
...she was a little emotional for this game
Jee says they knew she wasn't going to out with the 500,000...when I gave the goodbye speech I said a lot of good things about her...even thinking she might not go home...
Nathan - she is beautiful
Jee - she is a beautiful person...definitely she probably heard a lot of good speeches , a lot of us were very fond of her
Jack - she performed well in the HOH last week, good sport, good card player....I became very fond of her while she was here...she went out with a lot of class...good speech...didn't say like...I was impressed with her
jee - so was I, very much so, she was very nervous about that speech, I just told her to speak from the heart, she has got to be happy, right now she might not be
Nathan ..school next semester
Jack - she tickled me playing cards with Nate
Nate - she was my spades partner
Jack - Nate lost his partner
Jee - she left for a reason , that's it (earlier he said Dana got HOH for a reason)
Jack - we are not gloating here, it is good to laugh about it
Jee - this week is going to be truly unpredictable
Jack - tomorrow
Jee - tomorrow is the food competition
nathan - oh man, we have got to win, I don't care if we are a team, we've got to win
Jee - shrimp scampi, I love shrimp...I'll take anything
Jack - I'm looking forward to it
BB - the lockdown is over you are free to move about the house
Jee - ...rare moments to really speak to people
nate - I can relate to you - same morals
Jee - feel the same....they have their life and their own morals, I respect their own way, but they are not the way
Nathan...I can sit here and ..FOTH

Prism72

Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 08:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee - I really did my best to protect Michelle. She'll see that on the tapes ... I tried to protect her. It is good for her though ... she's a little too emotional for this game. It's probably best that she just go.

Talks about what he said to Michelle on his goodbye speech to her. Said that she's beautiful and innocent.

Jack -- She's a good athlete ... she's a good sport. She went out with a lot of class.

Jee -- She was really nervous about her speech ... I just told her to speak from her heart. She did a really good job.

Jee - - This week's going to be truly unpredictable.

Talking about tomorrow's food competition.

Jack wants shrimp scampi. nate says he loves shrimp.

BB -- Lockdown is over. You are now free to move about the house.

Konamouse

Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 08:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
HOH room on cam 2
Fuzzy green froggy slippers?
Two photos in a nice frame. Looks like a couple in the top foto, and a group from the karate school in the bottom foto.

Aremid

Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 08:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Camera showing the HOH room, see picture on table- camera zooms in on a picture of Dana and a girl
there is another picture of Dana and a guy, Dana is in there looking around
Camera back in the blue room
Camera back in HOH, zooming in on some Frog - flip flops - camera shows Dana's basket
In the background talk of food
Nathan - I would tell them everynight, can you please turn the air down to 71 - so hot in there
you know how it was
Camera shows a shirt that says Bayside, and there is a note to Dana tucked inside