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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Big Brother IV - July 2003 Live Feed Archives: July 18, 2003 - Day 14 - Dave wins POV - Lots of plotting.: Archive through July 18, 2003

Cajundee

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 08:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dave was in HOH talking to Jee and Robert. He is trying to get Jee to agree to taking erika off and putting up Dana. Jee is getting highly upset and whining that no one is thinking about him, said he thought about everyone, everyone wanted Erika gone and now they are changing their minds and are not thinking about him. He is throwing a lot of "f" words around and said that Dave can do what he wants to do, but if no one gives a "f" about him, then he doesn't give an "f" about anyone else. Robert is chiming in that "everyone" wants Erika gone. Dana just barged in so the conversation changed.

Ryn

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 08:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
short post - only because I just checked cam 3....

Jee and David in the HoH...

only caught this one part then Dana came in...

Jee saying he is happy being sequestered or not - that he will be happy to get out and see his girl..

Jee - you do what you have to do, I mean I am not threatening you......

Jee says (with Dana there) - lets just stick with the plan and evict Erika

Dana says she thinks she set the precident - that you should only use the POV if you are nominated...

lost feeds and I have to go.

Aremid

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 08:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Robert - you know what he wants to do- take Erica off the block
(Robert just said she would put anybody up)
Robert - Nathan is pushing up - we got your back Dave....I don't have Dave's back...I don't know man
Jee - Nate was totally down with putting her up, and now that he isn't getting along with Erica... he is f------- up, he is out
Robert - POV - you can't put him up
Jee - I'm not ever going to trust you again...I won't ever be able to believe you again...(whispering)....save Erica...what the f--- is wrong with him
Sombody else comes in
Male - I totally understand why you won't Erica out, she will come after you
Jee - whisper
Dave - Dana is like I have to get HOH...(he is whispering) ...but now ...she doesn't know that we are all against her... we talk...she doesn't know Jack...hypothetically if you were to take Erica off, she would be ok, Dave is going to ? me and Jack is going to pick me to save me...Erica won't get HOH, Dana will ...more athletic....Erica we can convince her...Dana is more athletic ...step on anyone's toes...we kept our end of our deal ( missing some - whispering)
...if Michelle's comes off, will Dana goes out...
Jee ?I said some cruel things to Erica thinking she was going to go out...everyone was pushing me to do this and do that...and now because other people
Male - if you watch my back I watch your back
Dave - they all agreed to get Erica out, but the rest of the house also sees the opportunity to get Dana out
Knock on the door
Michelle comes in...I think ? knows that we're
Male - who
Mi - Dana
Jee - everybody is turning their back on me ... they are asking me to put my life up on the line...stick with the...its not going to hurt Dana next week
Dave - everyone knows that if the house is changing...you have to adjust to the house more...
Jee - I know you can do whatever you want to do
Jee - its not everyone else, it is certain people
Dave - it is a majority of the people
Jee - If I give you respect I expect the same thing back...I kept my word...now people down my back ...if you want to last long...number...to a certain point...then people do what they want to do...everyone wanted Erica out, and now they are thinking about themselves and not me
Jee - if that is the case I will f------ screw the whole f------- house
Jee - what do you think will happen
Dave - she will be after you
Somebody calls for Mi to go outside - she leaves
Jee - that's not right, that is really not right, everyone wanted me to vote for Erica so I did, and now...I don't think people even give a f---, noone cares about me...securing yourself needs numbers and we all agreed to that...if they ? away from it, I have no trust in you...and I will turn this house upside down...I know about a lot of things...do whatever it takes
Dana - for you, not talking about me...if it turns out that everyone in the house wants to do...everybody..
Jee says something
Dave - that is a plan...that is a good plan...but Dana has more opportunity next week to F--- everything up, and we have no control...but Erica..have more control over that situation
Jee - considering ....other people talking to you too...do what you want to do...I'm not down with it...turn the f------ house upside down...if people are not going to care about me, I'm not going to care about them

Robert says something but I can't understand it - something about Erica

Jee - follow the plan...now that people are getting worried for themselves, they don't give a f--- about me at this point...I could be the one to ? ....chaos...I don't care at that point...I don't care ...sequestered, you do what you want to do...but
Knock on the door
Dana - smells like peanut butter
Dana comes in
Dave - How many are you up to
Dana - 3...when you guys were eating the casserole I ate my third
Male - so Dave let's just get Erica out
Dave - uhuh
Dave - I don't want sh-- to come back on me and I don't want sh-- to come back on you

Jee - Michelle...I done so much for her to get her to stay in this house...close up all the loop holes...it is going to be that way, stick to the plan
Dana - every week, it is going to be everyman for himself, HOH, do what he wants to do

Dave gets up to leave
Jee tells Dana not to freak out
Dana - when people work this hard, ...act so scared of that one person...I have so many ?, I don't I don't
Jee - let me give you a proposal
Dana - I have no idea what I'm going to do, if he follows with the pact I won't
Jee - maybe you should tell him that...
Robert ? - I think he may have something with Erica
Jee - he might use it...the guy is crazy enough
Robert - I was getting a little
Dana - why would Dave want to take Erica off the block
Jee - I don't know
Robert - I don't know, but if I get HOH...( whispering again)
Dana - he is freaking out on me, I don't care, he can't stay...just leave me the f--- alone.

Timed out

Kuchi

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 08:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
quick convo between Dave and Erika. He is taking Erika off. If Jee does not put up Dana, Michelee will go, Dave said just hiding it from her now.

Aremid

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 08:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee tells Dana all about telling Dave that he had done things for people in the house and now they were doing this to him
Jee - now they are f------- turning on me too...they don't care
Robert - the whole house
Dana - you see what I'm saying
Jee - now they want to think about themselves and not me and that is messing me up...I can f--- you over...game at that point
Robert - you guys have my back...f--- no, if he can't get away with it, he can't do this
Jee...it would be in the best interest for you to do that...he was alright...that is why I'm telling you Dana...they are scared of you...I don't know
Jee - maybe you can tell him, I am giving you my oath that I will not put you David up
Robert - all the stuff we worked for is out the window
Dana whispering very low
Jee - I told him all of that ...consequences
Dana - I told you, that is what I was getting
Jee - I told him if he was going to do that...I'm on my own...f--- all of ya'll...i'm not having that anymore... I'm not having that s--- anymore...you might want to talk to him, I don't know
Dana - I don't know
Dana - I know what I heard...deal...that is all I know
Dana - I said to you...
Jee - I told him, not in that matter
Dana...you guys put me up instead of one of them
Dana...you guys no idea...no idea
Jee - I will flip this house upside down...I'm going to f------- ruin this house before I ...I've done enough...f--- this house up before I leave
Dana - if he uses the veto
Jee - if he does that sh--, its over
Dana - two days, you think I'm paranoid coming in here asking every ? minutes, but I know, I know

Kuchi

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 08:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dave, Nate, Justin, Robert and Jee going over and over the same stuff...broken record really. Jee saying leave as is. Dave saying Erika no threat. and so forth. Dave did say that they shouldnt worry if they see him talking to erika. And they all said sure man sure.

Ali, Jun and Michelle are exercising outside and Erika is in and out of the house making coffee and doing her toes.

Dana is inside talking to Robert.

I think Jack is outside

Aremid

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 08:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It looks like David and Justin are in the room now
David - if the whole house is turning on Dana
Justin - here is the plan...we get Erica out...you and Jack come with us...if Erica stays here, there is so much turmoil in the house it is unbelieveable...so if Erica is out...and we take you and Jack...and Dana already assured me that she doesn't want you and Jack out...
Jee - what if I can work with her and get her to guarantee you safety, if you don't use it at all
David...I don't, I can't...
Jee - just you
Jee - what if I can talk to her
David - I'm not worried about her...Nathan is scared of Dana
Jee - plan to take Erica out, but because ( he repeats his same thing again)
David - Jack isn't going to vote against Mi
David - word from Dana doesn't mean you can believe her
Jee - better than nothing
David - lot of people in this house and its not
( whispering low)
Justin - Nathan came in this house and ???
Jee - what the H--- is wrong with him
Justin - to tell you the truth, I kinda want Dana to get HOH, because if you two come with us...she is going to take them down, you know what I mean...that's if she gets it
Jee...all of us our...if I can get the veto...people are f------- with me now, they want me to put up Dana...I'm not going to put her up, I'm not...at that point I don't care

Camera moves outside
Jack is talking to another male ( back to camera)
(plane)
Jack - Robert is behind this Erica sh-- anyway
Male - is David? or Dana? in there right now
Jack - yeah, you go in there and talk
He is talking to Nathan
Nathan - I don't think that I would
(Plane, can't hear)

Nathan - is that David right there
Jack - Robert
Jack - without Dana ? votes, with Dana, they got 3 votes?

Nathan - HOH, we wouldn't be in this predicament
Nathan - How can he not see the light
Nathan - Robert hates her
Jack - he can always get Erica if he wants her...she know who our alliances are
Nathan - I'm going to talk to Robert, I'll be back
Jack - ok

Back inside HOH
Nathan comes in
Jee- this is the deal...I've worked really hard to get Erica out, and keep Michelle safe...I don't understand what is happening...I've done things for people, I'm not trying to be selfish..but if that happens...
Nathan says something ( whispers)
Jee - I've done enough for this house...if people want to f--- with me...I like to help everybody out...I don't want it to be that way...I want to stick with the plan...
Nate -I'm going to stick with whatever you say,
everybody thinks it is a good opportunity to get Dana out
Jee - I guaranteed her safety...I have done enough... they are thinking only for themselves right now, that is foul man, that is really foul
Nathan - the reason Erica doesn't intimidate me,
Jee says something
nathan - I told you I understand
Jee....I'm not threatening anyone, but if that is the case I'm not going to care about anyone
Jee - there is a chance that she can't get it, there are a lot of us...that is how the game is played
Nathan - when all is said and done you are the man this week, I will respect
Jee - people are watching out for themselves and not for me
Nathan - I'm hearing you are going to (put me Up?) I'm hearing it, I thought we were tight
There is some laughter
Knock on the door
Robert comes back in
Jee - I'm just laying it on the table right now, He just told me that he heard
Nathan - I'm serious
Jee - who told you this
Nathan says he doesn't remember, he is trying to remember
Jee repeats AGAIN about all he has done, and what people are doing now, and he isn't going to care
David- I understand about your personal grudge against her...next week, if you were to pick...Erica, totally thinks Jack and I are still with her, that's why - there won't be any chance for any of that, by taking Erica off and putting Dana on, Erica will still think we are on her side
Jee - dude, you got veto, you do what you want to do
Jee - Dana, I have nothing with her...she comes in here because she is f------- paranoid, another thing, we have no alliance,

.....
Nathan - turn people against each other...
Male - Ali thinks I want her to put her up
Nathan - and where did that come from
Male - DANA
Nathan...people's heads and makes them paranoid
(missing some of the conversation)
Male - the veto is almost more powerful than the HOH

Aremid

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 08:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nathan - if Dave decides to use the veto are you going to put Dana up?
Jee - its like this
Knock on door - its Jack
Jee - I've proven my loyalty to people, I've lived up to my word...this is the message I'm getting, people don't care about me...I'm not putting DANA up...I think I have done enough, I think I've truly done enough, Jack, quiet honestly...Erica is going home...conversation...Erica is going hom
Jack - my feeling is...Erica is not going anywhere..if you want to go after Erica you can go after her...the veto ? Dana

Jee - done enough...you guys no how I feel...no personal grudge against anyone...
Male - If Erica goes out this week, Dana goes out next week, is that clear with everybody
Male - unless she gets the veto

Jee - I've done enough for this house, I've been on the block, I'm not going to do it again, I'm not going to put my life on the line...
Male - what if she comes after you
Jee - I'm risking myself just like everybody else

Kuchi

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 08:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack has joined the men in the hoh.

cams switched in doors when the three exercising girls went in. they are doing ab work

dana and erika in kitchen
dana says to erika "you are my inspiration when you got put up, it's almost better to go home." did not catch the beginning of the convo

now they are talking about things getting worse

Erika said being nominated is kind of a relief. everyone else is going crazy.
dana saying one day of calm

Auntie

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 09:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
dave, erika and jack. decision was if that they veto michelle, jee will put up jack or dave. if they veto erika, ditto, the end result is that they lose one of their key players (erika or jack), or they lose michelle, a weak player.

earlier, in lr, michelle tells girls she got to third base with someone.

Kuchi

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 09:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The men break up their pow wow, with jee saying if dave uses the veto he will put anyone up other than dana/

Dave jack nate go into desert room and decide that they cannot use the veto but have to make sure ali and jun vote with them to vote michelle off. erika comes in and they fill her in.

so the plan is to not use the veto and nate assured them he has ali and jun. they know that dana will vote erika off. so the way they see it it will be 5 to 3 with michelle going.

They say jee is too afraid to put dana up

Ryn

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 09:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
After eons in the HoH room with all 6 guys -the end rsult is that things haven't changed.

Jee basically says - if you use the veto I won't put up Dana.

then everyone leaves - all agreed not to use it....

Jack, Nathan, Erika and Dave in the Desert room...

I only caught the end of this..

They have a SHORT meeting compared to the HoH room where its been the Marathon Room today.

The decision - as of now...

They feel they have 5 votes (Jack, David, Nathan, Alison, and Jun) to eliminate MICHELLE

SO as of now - they will NOT use the veto and vote off Michelle.

meeting is over and they go play ping pong (nathan and dave)

Jee is in the kitchen - so that meeting must be over too.

Thats just a summary - I could write for 2 hours about the HoH room and it all would be about the same.

Auntie

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 09:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
jee in hoh with trio, he tells them that dave better not use the veto, because if he does, he will put jack up - that the other alliance trio cannot stay intact - they will lose either erika or jack if dave uses the veto.

group ali, robert, went out to do tee shirts.

now cam changes, many in back yard, can't identify all, but dana, jee, dave, ali, three guys huddled near a chair, looks like erika on lounge.

jun and nathan counting votes to keep erika - ali, jun, nathan, jack, dave, and also DANA.

they say it's going to be close.

Aremid

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 09:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee is talking to Michelle, saying the same things to her he said in the HOH room over and over again.
Jee - I've done the nomination block
Jee - I'm putting myself in danger again, why can't people look out for me for once
Mi - that is fine fine fine

Kuchi

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 09:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cams switched to bathroom where nate and jun ending convo, she said so it will be you me jack ali and dave against the other three and he said and next week game on and she smiled and they continued talking quietly when erika walked in with her tye dye shirt.

a lot of them are tye dying right now

nate is playing table tennis with dave

ali and justin rinsing off tshirts in sink
on other cams jee talking to michelle

Aremid

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 09:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee goes into the bedroom with Mi
She thanks him for doign something
Jee - you alright
Mi - yeah
jee - and you're going to be alright

Ryn

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 09:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nathan gets Jun to agree to vote for michelle - she says this will be where her and Dana split because Dana will vote for Erika.

THe vote will be this way - if things go the way they are now talking... (Jee, Robert, Dana and Justin think it will be 8-0 for Erika)

Michelle: David, Jack, Nathan, Jun, Alison (5)

Erika: Robert, Justin, Dana

Robert on the basketball court with Dana - callign Jack a dumbas*** for things he said in the HoH room. (ed - if things go the way they are now - Robert will be the one feeling foolish).

Robert and Dana still talking - Robert giving her some HoH meeting of the 6 guys.

FOTH

Posting - be beack soon

Auntie

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 09:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
jee on patio with michelle. she appears to be folding laundry.

jee appears to be giving her the "fair to jee" speech he's been giving everyone all day.

michelle suddenly asks jee to help her carry two piles of laundry into her room. he says sure, and does so.

jee drops laundry, asks her if she is okay, she says yes. he says if she wants to speak to him, come to his room.

cam 1, dana and robert on basketball court. she is very, very happy in manner and tells him she wants to "hear all about it later."

cam 4 jun in bathroom, seemingly alone, washing shirt.

jack and dave are playing ping pong in kitchen.

jack sits down with jee at table, nathan takes over ping pong.

dana tells jun the shirt she is holding is jack's, that jun's shirt turned out nice. she can't believe it, jun put so much dye on it. ali remarks on how nice the shirt she made for nathan turned out.

dana says she is tired from bball already, robert says huh? she says she's been doing it for like ten minutes, but she has a nasty hook shot, huh?

justin is also on bball court, sniffing around dana.

discussion about washing shirts, everyone talking over each other and basketball making so much noise, you can't hear.

posting and taking a break for a few minutes.

Kuchi

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 09:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
a few minutes ago: under the pretense of helping dave with his tye dye shirt, jun says to him so what do i say to dana, that i am voting erika out and dave says yes and dont let michelle hear a word about this. she asks what dave told the boys and he says that erika will be out. she says ok and goes inside.

Kuchi

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 09:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
jun upset on camera one and two. she said she is homesick and would be out with her friends. she is thinking of her bday tomorrow.

ali michelle hug her and tell her they have her now and that it will all be worth it

Ryn

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 09:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Erika and Jack outside - only caught the end - Erika saying we underestimated them (Jee & co)

Jack says we had to do it that way - they were decided not to put Dana up.
Cam cuts to the tye dye stuff - nothing important.

Then to Jack and Robert - but they are only talking about getting up at 10pm

Cam 1 - Michelle and Nathan in kitchen....

Mich - "too much drama today"

Nate - whats going on in the red room?

Michelle talks about Jun & her bday.

cut to bathroom, Erika and Jun

Jun is asking Erika what to tell Dana (I think)

Jun says what if she (?) goes to david?

Erika says - I will go ask.

Erika heads outside - cam is nice enough not to follow.... (grrr)

Cam back to Jun & now Dana in the bathroom

trying to find Erika...

outside - Erika at table - lots of people outside

Erika and Jack at table - but Justin nearby - Erika playing cards......

Looks like she is waiting for people to leave - she keeps looking up and around...

waiting for a chance to talk to jack...

She calls David over - on the pretense of asking about the cards..

Erika - "so when you have this card, what do you tell Dana?" (yes thats what she said)

David - tell her she is voting for Erika.

a little more talk - then he leaves....

Aremid

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 09:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Erica - We give them too much credit for thinking about this
Jack - in there he says he isn't going to put Dana up...so we back off
People come out and interupt
Later Erica and Jack have the cards out
Erica pretends to ask David a question about the game, she wants to know what he told Dana
He says that he told her Erica was gone, so she would shut up
Later heard someone, think it was David says Michelle's gone

Ryn

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 09:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dave is now talking to Alison

Alison - I have no clue whats going on

Dave tells her the deal - michelle is gone - tell dana that Erika is gone if she asks - I will fill you in later.

Alison doesn't really say anythign just listens and continues to work on the shirts.

Back to Erika and Jack playing cards

just playing cards...

back to cam 1 to see whats up.....

Ryn

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 09:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee & Jun in the bathroom...

Jee - you are like the only one that hasn't come talk to me....

Jun (inaudible)

Jee - you can if you come and talk to me....

Jee leaves - stops and talks to Dave and Robert about her birthday.

she forgot her microphone - goes to bathroom to get it - camera does not follow......

RObert and Dave.... "dude - jee's flippin out..."

one of them... "he'll be ok once this is over"

Dana and Justin in the blue room, Jee comes by.

Dana says her t*ts (her word) are blue - will it ever come off? (I guess from the tee shirt).

They joke abotu Jun getting sex on her birthday - I think they teased Jun about Nathan - she comes out and says she would rather Dave, thinks he would be more 'giving' (said all in a joking way)

Discussion about who covers up the most (women) - Dana is the most, Jun the next amount.

Dave comes by - they tell him the plan (take Jun to bed) - dave doesn't really say anything - then strikes a sexy pose (once again all jokes) - Justin says they will give him the HoH again.

Dana has been flirting a lot with Justin (nothing new)

Dana asks why she is attracted to younger men

Justin - older men are boring (ed - no comment)

Dana says she has made too many men out of boys.

blah blah

thankfully cam changes to Erika/Jack...

then again they are still just playing cards....

quad cam time....

Ryn

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 09:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 3 - Nathan and Michelle on the hammock - snuggling...

Michelle - its only been a week - wait until Dana is put on the block..

Nathan not talkative... "yup"

Michelle - you think the veto is gonna be used?

Nat - I dunno

Nat - I so wish it would be used to save you and put dana on the block....

1

Michelle says Dana wanted to go in the room so bad when all the guys were in there...