Archive through August 15, 2003
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August 15, 2003 - Day 42 - Justin/Robert Nominated:
Archive through August 15, 2003
Aremid | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 01:05 pm     jee 3 talking Jee - it is true, you two are the last two to be nominated in this house Jee - pretty big feat though camera keeps swithching to FOTH Jun comes through and says something about the week she was put up with Dana Jee mentions campaigning Rob - you'll see Jus - if anything I'll be campaigning against myself Rob - no sh--, no sh-- dude |
Ryn | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 01:06 pm     back from foth can't listen right now...
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Kaili | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 01:07 pm     Back on Jee saying to Robert that those 2 are the last to be nominated in the house. Switching to Jack and Erika... Erika asking if she did okay- Jack says there isn't much more she could say. Erika says BS is BS. Jack says peers are the toughest audience. Ali comes in- (they're in desert room)- asks Erika if she was going to cry. She laughs- says she started quivering. Ali had a bet that she wouldn't cry. Erika says it's a game and it was the strongest move to make. They all leave the room and go to the kitchen. Most people sem to be heading outside. Jack and Jun are reopening the shades. Ali begins to help. She's going to lay out- says it's nice out and she is going to take advantage of it while she's there. Posting and switching back to quad. |
Aremid | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 01:07 pm     Erika - I saw it as two strong players - would appreciate ? Rob - I really do |
Seamonkey | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 01:07 pm     Jack and Erika talking.. Jack said that Ali said she wanted to talk to them, but Jack thought Ali did get to talk to Erika.. Erika says "about Jun?" Jack says "is Ali worried about Jun?" Erika says "She wants to be the only one who is playing both sides!!" LOL.. Erika says Ali gets all upset.. "I'm the only one allowed to play both sides" Erika says We have two sides and two playing both sides and they run into each other going back and forth. Jack/Erika laugh. Erika says it was a game, had to make strongest move. Not totally sure of noms yet but Erika just clapped Jun on the back. Jack and Jun go outside.. going to quad, but Ali seems to follow them. Inside Justin and Jee and Robert say they are glad she made it short, didn't beat around the bush.. So.. must be, as advertised, Justin and Robert.. They are praising Erika (kissing up, boys???) Erika enjoying it very much. Jack floats up to the soafa area. Other two feeds show Ali in little bikini in sun, oiling up. |
Kaili | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 01:14 pm     Before I switched, Ali leaned over her lawnchair to adjust it and said (to herself) "Jack, you've gotta go" Back inside- at the couch... No one is talking. Rob asks Erika if she slept well- she said she hasn't been sleeping well for a few days but the bed is comfortable. Jack asks if she listened to music- she says it was late- went to bed. Jack mentions getting booze tonight. Erika says PB&J Saturday- saying it's better than a full week. Jee says it seems like no luxury challenge. Saying the veto will probably be pushed back a day too- Monday will be an empty day. They're trying to figure out the date- saying August went faster than July- saying how fast the weeks are going now. Erika saying the first week was hell. Rob saying he was happy to eat- taht's how much eating means to him. Now they are talking about eating/food/PBJ and the food challenge- some would be impossible to eat in a minute (Justin and Ali's). Audio not matching their mouth movements at all. Talking about the eyeball and Erika asking if he had to eat it all or just the eye. Justin says all the camera people must have cringed. |
Kaili | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 01:18 pm     Jun says they are wusses- the Survivor people eat huge bugs and maggots. HGs make gagging sounds and say they couldn't do it. Switched to outside- Ali in the pool on the pool donut thing. Just sittin' there floatin' around. (Gotta go get ready for work- bye all) |
Kaili | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 01:33 pm     Got my shoes on- popping in real quick- they're all talking about Earthquakes- no one seems to have been in one except Erika so she's explaing about what you may feel- that you really can't feel anything below a 3- she was in Northridge and was bounced out of bed- dishes all broke. She doesn't have EQ insurance because it has such a high deductible ($25,000 on $400,000 property). Talking about how expensive insurance is- things you are forced to have insurance for like cars, etc- the inside people talking about other natural disasters now like hurricanes and tornados. just Jusin, Jack and Erika in living room talking about storms, Jun and Jee in kitchen, Robert is in the pool with Ali - I don't have time to switch cause I really do have to go. Diary Room is temporarily closed. |
Seamonkey | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 01:39 pm     Outside Robert telling Ali that they (not sure who) let Jun know that she isn't on their side and cannot come back to their side and wouldn't vote for her, etc. Ali is pleased to hear this, says Jun is a sneak and Ali doesn't like that. Ali says the rest of us don't do that (ed. AIEEEEE! ) Ali and Robert both happy about this, Ali doesn't blame Robert for being upset with Jun. Robert says now it is F-ing ON! Ali asks what the guys do to study for competitions.. Ali giving Robert some pointers now (heck, maybe she really IS on their side.. naaah.) Ali now going over what each competition has included. She thinks this will be about remaining houseguests. Robert says me you Jee and Justin all over the house, jack and erika kept to themselves (to Robert Jun doesn't count.) Nate told all of them to watch out for Jun. Ali asks Robert if Nate ever said he would go after ME? He says no, Ali says Jun told her that Nate was wheeling and dealing and wanted Ali out. (ed. so often I hear Ali saying something that "Jun said" and I wonder if she just makes it up) |
Seamonkey | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 01:42 pm     Robert says they always changed the subject when Jun came in .. Ali says Jun always comes in, almost like Dana.. Then they conclude that Jun is more sneaky than Dana was. (ed. of course Jun was coming in on what she thought was her alliance ) Ali tells Robert they have to win HOH.. They agree they couldn't have beaten erika.. Robert said after Ali peed he was sure she would win.. Ali laughing. Robert tells her she kicked a$$.. Ali says her knees hurt so bad. Ali says doesn't know how Erika knew it was a standing endurance competition, didn't eat or drink all day, slept.. Robert says he knows there is a REASON why different people win .. there is a reason why Justin won.. FOTH!! Going to quadcam |
Cocoplum | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 01:45 pm     Earlier in Ali, Robert convo they pledged allegiance to each other to the end. Robert says all of J3 will vote for Allie at the end if she is up against anyone else. |
Seamonkey | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 01:53 pm     Robert and Ali now badmouthing Jun to Erika outside.. Robert saying Jun is going next week no matter what. This must be the deal they talked about.. Jee2/Ali J/E all pause to get Jun out. Robert again saying point of game is sticking by your alliance.. Jun went back and forth Robert says me and Jee or me and Justin will get her out. Robert says "respecting the game". Erika asks Ali.. Ali doesn't even want Jun to win $50,000. Robert says he'll even be happy if Erika wins! Robert says it is a win-win situation. Says he told Jun not to think she'll win this game, don't ever come back to me. Ali says she called Jun on a lie (or caught her in a lie).. the same thing she said earlier about Jun supposedly saying Nate wanted Ali out and that she said J/E wanted her out. Robert says that is Fing BS. More Jun trashing. Erika says never take advice from someone who is leaving the house Erika says she'll talk to Jack.. Robert seems to say not necessary (very loud jet).. Erika says are you sure Jee feels this way. Ali says that will be awesome. Robert says or put two people up, veto, then put her up and out. |
Seamonkey | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 01:54 pm     Ali is acting like the truce is her and Jack and Erika with the Jees. Ali seems to be saying the most important issue is making sure Jun doesn't get $50,000.. Ali would love to pay her college bills, etc. So basically anyone winning is cool as long as Jun leaves first. |
Needmylifeback | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 02:08 pm     Prior to FOTH Ali, Robert and Erica were talking - Robert and Ali in Pool and Erica on hammock...Ali was really campaigning against June..but the flight plan at the airport has moved directly over the backyard...we had jet noise about every minute/30 seconds.... Now on Erica and Jack in HOH they're debating talking with June and making a deal for next week....Jack is so intuitive! He's saying it might be a good idea to make it even if they don't implement it...that the Jee3 are making deals on future competitions that they haven't won! Jack and Erica now in Desert room....Jee three eating at dining table... Can't make out the whispers... THey're saying that Justin won't be here... |
Seamonkey | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 02:16 pm     Inside was just chit chat and cooking talk. Back outside, can't see Erika, so just Ali and robert talking .. again that the two sides go back and forth and take each other out and Jun will slip thru and ALI would rather hand ANYONE else the $50K. FOTH Jack/Erika Erika pulled Jun's key out last, I think. Jack says they could agree to it, see how competition falls next week. Erika says Jack wouldn't have the pressure of having to get HOH.. And if Jack gets it could just put Jun up with Robert and "let the house decide". Jack says interesting idea BUT it deflects us from Jee and Robert.. Erika says tht Justin even said it was a good move for Jun to come with them. Erika says but it takes the pressure off. Jack thinks they should agree whether they implement it or not.. gives cover for the competition.. force Jun to compete. Initial reaction is Jack is leery (ed. oh good instincts.. Jun goes and Ali is with Jee and Robert and you guys are outta here). Jack says Ali and I should defeat these two guys.. (Jack and ERika are in HOH) They are worried about voices carrying, decide to go in desert room.. so they now walk thru the house to the desert room. Ali yells something. Jack says Justin let it slip that Ali was going to vote for him.. reminded Jack of the problems we had with her. Erika says We need Jun. Jack agrees. Erika says Jun will feel so isolated at this point.. should we tell her we agreed to it, would she tell Jee (ed. she might). Erika says Jee feels so responsible, that Jun is his sacrificial lamb. Jack says are we waiting for Justin. Robert told Erika even if we don't accept the deal, the Jees will put Jun out. Jack says if Justin is gone, its a deal we don't need. Jack doesn't believe Robert. Justin is here, wouldn't be his style to go after Jun, he'd come after you and I. KNOCK.. ALI Ali taking shirts to wash. DAng, Jack pulls her into the competition. Says the amigos are negotiating from weakness what they are saying is "have a truce with us and let us vote out one of your people". Jack says they ran Jun out on the couch today. Ali says Robert might as well be gone if Justin leaves. Jack says no matter what Robert says he wants Jack and Erika out. Ali says we can nominate her with one of them and we can just take out Jee (ed. ohhh who will Ali betray in that scenario.. will she boot Jun over second place, or Jee, who would beat her) Jack says this isn't Justin's style.. Ali says Justin hasn't said anything to us. Ali thinks Justin would come after the veto. Jack agrees. Erika thought it would be sooner. (ed WHY does everyone trust Ali???? She's playing it so well) Erika says she has made the first solid punch with this nomination. Jack asks ALI what we tell Jun.. can we bring her further into us by telling her. Jee has offered her up. So will Jun tell Jee anything. Ali thinks maybe we could tell her if they win HOH, but not before WE win HOH. Don't scare her away. Jack wants to tell Jun they agreed but they really don't want to exercise it. Jack says have to wait until veto. Jack thinks Jun can't go to them anymore. Ali worries Jun would tell Jee. Says Jun will be upset if she's the pawn. Jack says if Justin gets veto she doesn't think he'd make this offer. Ali says they don't like Jun as a person and honestly I don't either. Jack says let's wait until Justin says he wants to meet with Erika.. see how Justin puts it, compared to Robert. FOTH |
Seamonkey | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 02:34 pm     Back.. Jack/Erika and Ali now talking about Nate. Jack says Justin and I says let's make a game of it.. why would he come after JUN.. that's emotional.. if he doesn't get the veto tomorrow he'll come to us with this deal. Jack says we want to suck Jun in.. so bring her in to these three man meetings.. want to not have it be a nuisance. Ali says she wants to be the liason to JUN (NO!! Jack, you are missing something) Ali says please let me, she doesn't trust me. Jack says do it soon.. Jun knows Erika and I met in HOH, and knows you are in here. Ali says I can handle that!! Do her job. She likes these jobes, tasks are fun. (triple agent?) Jack says doesn't want to speak for Erika, she is fine. Jack says nice to have pressure off, so an offer like this is beguiling, but problems in it. Let's just see if Justin gets the veto. Justin's parting gift to the amigos is to take one of our people out (ed. Yess!! Jack gets it). Erika says after the eviction tell Jun you HAVE to get this, no time to ask questions. Jack says we don't know how she'll do if she tries. Apparently Robert lashed out at Jun on the couch, pushed her away when all heard. Erika says maybe it is a booby trap.. Jack says Robert is so emotional, way he does business.. do that in public and burn a lot of bridges. Erika says Jun came to the bathroom and said OMG, Robert hates me. Jack says she isn't included in any of the meetings probably feels like a beached whale. Jack says no hint from Justin that he is going in this direction. Jack and Erika congratulate Erika for going out and talking to Robert. ERika says we finally did what we wanted to do, now have to get him out. ERika says she's the Jason and he's the Danielle.. Emoting to the camera ,says he got HOH same week as me. Jack says Jason wouldn't deal with Roddy, Dani got pissed. Wondering who Jason put up.. Amy and Marcellas??.. Before that they joked.. get rid of Jee3 and Jack ends up with all the women. Erika says that's been Jack's plan all along. Jack says been denied twice, tomorrow when we get him.. Jack says the screwball factor now is what Ali is going to do. Erika says she's not really on our side anyway. Jack says Ali is worried about you and Jun and i ganging up on her after the amigos go. Erika says Ali knows she has to go into F3 with them to win. Then Erika says they have to bring in Jun or Robert to F4. ERika if Robert and Jun do go up, I think Ali will vote with us, if we have Jun at that point (ed. scary) Jack likes the idea of using Jun to put people out and then get her out. Erika says Justin said if you took Jun it would be a very good move. Erika says she wants to take his advice. Jack says Robert wants to have a truce and taker her out, for him.. Jack now remembers that Justin said that. Gave two things away.. that, and only person who will put me up.. The only person who would put Justin up, if Nate goes is you (Erika/Jack) Jack and Erika crack up because Justin was telling them that ALI would NOT put Justin up. |
Seamonkey | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 02:43 pm     This is a good game, they say.. and some of it rests on whether you can eat good stuff or remember about an elephant.. or what color is Jee's duck. Simple but this stuff is the hard part. jack says half a mil riding on a rubber duck jack says can get power and not use it correctly. missed some when RP Ali knocks with some stupid movie question. As usual when it isn't something good and juicy about alliances, Ali is YELLING.. (they guessed Double Jeopardy but I think it is High Crimes). Jack's goal in life is to never see a Tommy Lee Jones movie.. always the same character. Has mocked him, saying at the beginning of his career he made a fourty hour movie and every now and then he releases an hour or two. Jun knocks and asks to come in.. Jun says she has a death threat on her.. Robert apologized, but she says Robert was sincere, he hates me. Jun says they were making deals without her, but whatever. Jun says it is awkward. They tell her nothing at all. She leaves. They say "those two" (think they mean Jun and Ali) Jun must have said something about Ali but couldn't hear that. Jack says and we get Ali to bring Jun in They again say this is a good game. Jack says Robert will come at us, he may be pissed at Jun.. but us or Ali.. Erika says not Ali. ERika wants to keep the <??> between Jun and Ali.. I think baiting both of them? Now talking about Robert always saying "I swear on my daughter". Jack hates that, anyone who would use his daughter like that in a game of lies is totally screwed up. You keep your daughter out of this. Jee three outside, hope someone is getting that convo. < ed > |
Seamonkey | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 02:57 pm     Jack says Justin playing a great game, that's why he has to go. Erika says EVERYONE here is playing a good game.. just because Jun goes back and forth doesn't make her any less of a player than us who are loyal. He agrees. Erika says, that's it Jack we are thru, Jun has a better strategy. They are cracking up!! Jack says wouldn't it have been fun if you had nominated me today. ERika says well she put Jack's key first, didn't want to jumble stuff. Jack says he meant to but didn't tell Jun, not to let her key being pulled last worry her. But he didn't. Erika says she put jack and then went alphabetical.. she actually put jun last in case they want to make a deal with the guys. Jack says we've taken the correct steps so far. Only have a week to make a big impact on the game and then you're at the mercy of the next guy. Yup says Erika. Jack says this competition.. mind for trivia, good, eat shit, NO, stand for 6 hours, no.. Jack says that little dance you did out there had an impact on Justin.. Erika says that's why she did it. Erika says "so now he's apologized to Jun" (Robert) Jack says you just can't fly off like that, keep your MOUTH shut. Erika says Justin must be just dying.. first one can't understand a deal, then one.. Jack says Justin didn't even want that alliance. Suddenly they remember they had sandwiches to finishe. They come out to find Robert talking to Jun L( Ali is giving the camera guy a good bikini-butt-view while she washes a shirt. Erika comes out.. Ali asks if they talked to Jun .. Erika said no, but told them Jee would vote Justin out (Ali acts bored and says why wouldn't he, who the F cares, why is she trippen'.. why so much shit going on? Ali says you and Jack have been in there all day, can see Jun running back and forth (funny, I thought Ali was running back and forth way more) Ali is in SHOCK at Jun's actions!! Ali tells Erika she looks nervous. Ali is excited to wear this; he'll be proud. It is a shirt Nate left and he told Erika she could have.. (now Ali had taken that shirt and plans to wear it, bet Erika won't be getting it back) Erika is in the hammock and the doofus boys are threatening to get her wet.. she says she just got a new mic and John will be mad.. they all still threaten.. Jack is inside in the kitchen. Ali is being dramatic over laundry. Erika telling Jee not to do it (jump in pool) ed. have to go very soon. <+++ going inside to see if Justin and Jack are saying anything of substance. |
Trinity63 | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 02:58 pm     Erika and Jack were talking, I tuned in to the very last. Robert and Jack talking. Robert kissing Jack's butt and trying to make stilted conversation. A shot of Jun's rear end, and it's getting wider and wider. Jack and Jun talking now. Jun not saying much. Jack telling Jun -- that Erika and he have her back, she is being aloof. I think the girls are washing clothes? Doing choirs. I apologize for this being so disjointed but my 2.5 year old son is yelling "PWEASE MOMMY NO MO BIG BWAVAH!!!" so it's hard to hear.. |
Seamonkey | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 03:00 pm     Nothing.. Jack seems to be outside watching Ali in bikini. Inside thought I saw Justin and Erika.. Justin is just sitting and shuffling cards, over and over and over. Jee/Robert in pool, think one did splash finally Erika is missing Subway. Justin agrees. |
Bonzacat | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 03:57 pm     Let me just summarize what's going on in HOH right now: Justin talking to Erika, mostly about Jun, ragging on how she has had no strategy. He said he could accept anyone winning the game *but* Jun. She has no game. Erika is just listening, not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing. But she did say that Jun is just playing differently, not that she isn't playing, but just different than Justin or she might play. Justin complimented Ali -- she has alliances, she wins s-hit, she talks a lot. |
Bonzacat | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 03:59 pm     Erika tells Justin he's the strongest player in the house, she had to put him up. Justin says Jee said not using the Veto just pertained to Ali, they are talking about Jee saying earlier that he may have misunderstood the "deal" made in the cage. Erika - Jee asked Erika to make sure he does not win POV. |
Bonzacat | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 04:04 pm     FOTH - during Erika & Justin's card game/game talk in HOH. |
Bonzacat | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 04:08 pm     Back - I think they were talking about X factor stuff, Robert just called to the DR. Erika just told Justin that she thinks Robert doesn't hate her. Justin agreed, saying Robert said they had patched some things up, but that she is a little too crazy about her dogs. Erika is saying she doesn't know why she has been crying so much. Just stress, house nerves, and how she used to always laugh at people on shows crying like she is now. Some laughing and bonding and chit-chat. |
Kuchi | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 04:09 pm     TO summarize this convo between erika and justin: talked about the veto deal with jee which jee thought was for ali only...to not use veto. Now jee knows it was for both of them. he has requested erika keep him from winning it!! Rob and justin are angry with jun since she openly told them earlier that she switched sides to erika and jack. erika and justin talking about this and wondering why jun did that as erika tells justin that all they said to jun in the cage was that she was safe...it was never "now you are on our side" or anything like that. They are really confused, especially justin as to why jun would openly say she was now with erika and jack. rob is really angry with jun and told her no way will she be with the jee 3 again. Erika told justin we will definately take her for a vote and justin said you guys would be crazy not too. Justin said he would like to see anyone win this now except for jun....he does not feel that she has earned it by winning stuff or working hard to stay in or anything. ERika listened mostly to the jun stuff and made a comment that she is playing her way and well but differently than justin and erika. ERika did say to justin: i will be honest i put you up because you are a strong player but a small part of me wants you to win veto so the other goes....rob for her emotional reasons. He laughed at that. Justin said if he leaves the house he will have no regrets.....he would have if he had kept Nate though. He is glad that he did not keep Nate. |
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