August 2, 2003 - Day 29 - Evening Strategy - Dana Campaigns
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Kuchi

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 10:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
justin, telling rob and jee the plan
he quotes dana to the word " i am not doing this to keep dana but to get rid of nate"
dana told his to say that
rob says ali may put jee or justin up
jee how do you know ali will do what you want

justin will tell dana he tried to talk to ali if the boys say no. justin does not want to talk to ali if the boys are against it. jee and rob say no we dont want to do it.
jee and rob say the proposal will not help them right now.
rob saying may be they can get ali on their side so that they can get nate out....jee saying put up nate and jack, rob says nate and erika.
jee saying we can use ali for another week
again rob says i will not use the veto
jee:i do not like the way dana is doing this stuff
jee: it's getting too grimy
rob saying jun talks to him.
jee said i am all for voting jun out but look at the way she is behaving...i think they are voting jun out. i missed a few sentences here!!!
rob is for keeping it the way it is.
justin there is a lot of possibility of ali going that way.
jee come on nate saved her, jee reminds her that ali does not want to lie to justin
justin saying ali would not come after them
rob---when dana leaves, ali can come to our side and jee says and we can control her
rob agrees taht they can control ali
rob says he does not want dana here
jee has grown to like dana but does not like the way she has been doing

Kuchi

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 11:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
cams switch inside to convo ending with ali nate jack and erica
they all walk into desert room.
dont know what they were saying yet
oh ali is still outside at mirror, the other three are in the desert room.
nate says it would be great if she put justin on the block but she is sneaky
so maybe they were talking about rob using it and her putting justin up
i heard "dana working" and then cams switched outside to rob jus jee and ali checking out the spider
the spider's name is BUDDY

Ryn

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 11:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nathan, Jack, Erika and Ali were talking strategy, but now all cams are back out with the spider, Ali joined them.

Nathan, Erika and Jack were talking about Dana's suggestion I think, and Ali left because they thought they were seen by the others. So now those three are alone in the Turtle room (without a camera on them).

All three guys are now going to talk to Ali - they tell her they are not using the veto

Justin doing all the talking, says they are going to go after Nathan if they get it - she says they know.

Justin - if we do get him out of here, or even if not, its a good idea if you start working with us.

Nathan, Jack, Erica...then Jun...

Ali - I think you got it backwards - I think Jun has to go 1st.

Justin says whatever.......

He rehashes it - and restates the names in the same order (no mention of Jun).

Justin - are you cool with that?

Ali - yes (but who knows if she is being honest or just tellign them what they want to hear).

Ali says Dana wants to talk to Erika and wonders why - they say she wants to campaign.

Ali says Erika said she has 2 words for Dana, "See ya."

Dana is coming close so they stop talking.....she doesn't come outside - so they continue.

Ali says - if you guys are HoH I will vote the way you want me to.

Kuchi

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 11:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
rob jee just outside talking to ali
boys say they are not coming after ali
they are going to try to get nate out
ali says nate knows and thinks he is gone
justin said after dana is out it would not be a bad idea for you to come and work with us
ali says jun has to go first after justin says dana nate erika jack jun
then they say the four can do whatever
she says that;s fine yah
rob: you dont like the way erika and jack are playing right
ali: they are just moving from person to person saying they are playing smart
rob: we are putting nate and one of them up
ali: put up jack with nate as those two have an alliance from the beginning
ali why does dana want to talk to erika
ali says they are voting dana out
justin says she is coming out
ali says she will vote however they want if they are hoh
jee talks about voting for jun but angry with dana so rob says you have the votes for dana out
ali says she is talking to every one now
(convo moving fast)
ali says dana is 28,
nate erika jack are voting dana out ali says
nate is worried about leaving next week and being sequestered with dana next week, just the two of them
dana is in the kitchen making a sandwich
rob saying he is not pissed about the michelle erika thing....that was not personal
ali saying that with dana around justin is impossible to talk to
ali saying i am not telling about our convo except that we talked about the vote.
ali saying they were mad since she did not put up justin, to which jee says who are they?

Ryn

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 11:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ali re-affirms that Nat, Erika and Jack are voting Dana out - she said Nathans biggest fear is that he will be alone with Dana for a week if he goes out next week.

Cam 1/4 on Ali outside with the 3 - cam 2/3 on Dana in the kitchen, panning to a view of the folks outside. Now all cams back on the outside group.

Ali says she does not want the 3 to let Jack, Erika, Nathan know that she is on "their" (the 3's) side. (ed - he true alliance might be shown dependin gon what she reports back to them).

She is going to tell them that they were discussing the vote, but not about them proposing Ali joining with them.

RObert talks about Erika and how she lies about stuff.....

Ali says she was scared that they were going to tell her robert was going to use the veto, Robert says they would never do that.

They say that if they put Nathan up and Ali gets the veto, that she can't use it - she says she NEVER would.

Ali says "they think I am with them so I can just tell you everything we talk about"

Justin outlines that they already have agreed that if its one of "us" vs one of "you" that we will win because we will have 4 of the 7 votes.... and if its two of "you" you will win because you are coming with us.

Ali says "dang you guys are thinking far ahead....."

all 4 cams still on the group outside.

Ali says she wants Nathan to go soon he is driving her crazy.

cam 3/4 now on Turtle room....

Kuchi

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 11:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
rob and jee are voting dana out...they told ali just now, so if it goes down it will be 5 to 1 dana out.
justin says us three and you start the minute dana walks out the door.
now justin telling ali that if she goes with the other group she will not win in the end because of the votes

they are telling ali if she goes to the finals with one of "them" she will win if she goes along with jee3, if she goes with one of this group she wont win!!!!!

Ali saying those three will put up just and jun next week. Just says he is safe in that case as with ali in their group now jun will be out

Ryn

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 11:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ali says that the others have decided that if they get HoH that they will put up Justin/Jun (ed - I don't know if this is true).

She seems quite happy to be talking to them, they are flattering her for her comeback.....

switching to feed 3

Kuchi

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 11:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
jack erika and nate:
working on getting jee. jee under justin thumb. they all know that they are making deals. They are talking about getting jee by telling him that the others are making deals against him

cams changes to jun and dana
jun saying that erika nate and jack are keeping her she thinks they have not told her directly
dana calling erika a •••••
the turtle room people called jun into the turtle room to talk and jun said that she would have heard more if dana had not come in
dana telling jun that rob was gung ho about using veto if ali guarantees nate will be put up (ha ha)

Ryn

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 11:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nathan, Erika, Jack talking about pulling people to their alliance.... Jee...

Nathan says its good "they" are making Deals....

Cam cuts to Jun/Dana in Red Room....

Jun is telling Dana about Jack & company talking to her.... she thinks they were trying to tell her that she was safe from their vote....

Dana says she can't believe they had the nerve to pull Jun in to talk to Erika & Jack..... Jun does not seem happy they called her in there....

Dana was looking all over for Jun (this must have gone on while all cams were on the group outside....

Dana telling Jun about her plan to get Ali to use the veto and put up Nathan.... she still thinks it might happen, says that Robert was all for it (she doesn't know that he is against it now).

Ryn

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 11:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 1/2 are the outside group...

Cam 3/4 are on the red room.

Justin says that the sequestered HGs only get to watch the competitions - not the show, just the competitions.

Kuchi

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 11:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
cam 3: ali in desert room
she told them that rob and jee hate dana and are voting her out. she told erika rob told her not to trust erika, right after erika said i am telling you all do not trust rob
erika said that because ali said rob hates dana but ali did not know that. erika said rob lies.
ali saying jun will wait to see which side gets hoh next week
ali keeping quiet about her deal with jee3 ( she is playing well)

Ryn

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 11:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ali left and went right to the "turtle room" and reported some, but not all of what she discussed. She did not mention the talk of her working with the 3 guys to get Nathan out, etc. (Ed - seems like she is keeping her options open).

But now Ali tells them that they asked her not to use the veto if Nathan is nominated and she said she told them she wouldn't..... (ed - and my head begins to hurt....)

They continue to talk about pulling Jun over to their side...

Kuchi

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 11:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ali telling that they will put up nate and jack and have asked ali not to use the veto
ali says that justin knows that everybody will put him up just as the other side will put up nate
ali thinks jun will stay with that alliance as she thinks these guys are pissed off at her
nate says that the plan is to put up rob and justin and justin has to leave......ali told the ones outside that it will be jun and justin
they are laughing that jee3 think erika and jack are against nate for taking ali off the block
now laughing about dana walking in on them talking to jun

Ryn

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 11:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 1/2 Dana and Jun have joined the guys outside, I have no idea if they told Dana aobut the veto - I would guess no since Jun is there as well.

They are just having a general conversation.....

Kuchi

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 11:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nate is wearing erikas white slip on heels and they were laughing about that. they were telling him to walk outside and show dana
he says no but keeps the shoes on..its funny

erika tells ali that she trusts her and ali says she trusts these three and will not turn her back on them.

(time for bed for me)

Whit4you

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 11:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack - we had 8 votes and we were cocky - now there are 4 of us

(they all totally crack up)

Nate - we really were cocky the first week.

back to strategy talk

A - I trust the three of you I would not turn my back on you

E - we are trying to get Jun against Justin

N - they are going to be breathing down her neck, we have to tell her she hssn't burned a bridge withus.

A - well Jun was upset in kitch, saying she promised she wouldn't campaign against us.

N - everything is falling in place

E - we were like we don't know...

J - we just said me and Ericka are just floating - she still thinks we are not attached to you guys, cause of David.

E - she says - you guys are just taking this week to week since David is gone, and we were like Ya.....

J - ya just Erika and I. - She came in and was humble with head down..

N - this is perfect, playing in our hands


J - never let your enemies see you sweat.

N - we gotta tell them it's the 3 amigo's to the bitter end and they are just using her (jun) for a pawn. I think she felt better towards us since we pulled her in here. She's scared to death of Dana.
She was like, I'm scared she'll come in and catch me, and she did like a hawk.

J - on the pingpong drop - we had 27 balls, Allie won with 7 - (????)

A - no we didn't draw they put us there... there was an order

J - I don't think it's important but they change so much...

A - colors of the teeshirts?

(they are practicing questions now)


(real tired so this wasn't verbatum, but the Allison/Nate group has been laughing constantly - off to bed)

Angelicfairies

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 11:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Mid-conversation:

Dana: I just want people to be honest with me.
Jee-They haven't spoken to me about shit
Dana: they won't cause they don't need your votes because if it goes to a tie allison has the final vote.
Robert: Right
Dana: they are coming after you guys (Jee3)
Jee: We knew
Dana: Nathan is pissed off at allison for not putting up Justin.
Dana: That pisses off Erica and Jack to see Nathan with Justin. When Nathan thinks he's loosing control he freaks out
Rob: like he did tonight
Jee: no one in this house is in control


(Posting)
I'm a new poster soooooooooo please bare w/me this is harder then I thought.

Angelicfairies

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 11:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee: I don't know why she opens her mouth she is just making it worse for herself.
Rob: I know
Dana went to put on perfume

Midconvo:
Jun & Justin in bathroom chairs chatting will go listen.