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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Big Brother IV - July 2003 Live Feed Archives: July 22, 2003 - Day 18 - Voting Day: Archive through July 22, 2003

Mranon

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 09:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
General Good mornings exchanged.

Jee in WC. Ali, Dana and Jun brushing teeth, makup, etc.

Erika playing with camera on the pole outside. Making the camera follow her around. Playing hide and seek.

Jee washes hands.

Cam 3 now spinning around and find Erika sticking her toungue out. She now goes inside. Dave still on Hammock.

Jun curling her hair. Still no sign of Nate, Robert or Michelle.

Mranon

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 09:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee brushing his teeth.

General morning stuff. Jee saying he made the fridge colder so the ice cream wouldn't melt. Seems as though that caused a problem with some other things in there.

Jun starting to make something.

Ali gets called the the DR.

Jee still brushing teeth.

jee

Dana says "I am gonna be pissed at the diary room boy" (ed: she has been up 10 minutes and is already pissed)

Ryn

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 09:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
1 Dave clueing Dana in on the plan top vote out Michelle

As they agreed he would.

Ryn

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 09:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dave - we are gonna keep Erika and Vote out Michelle

Jee and justin thinks that Jack and I are coming over to their side.

Dave says Justin, Robert and Jee say Dana is out next week.

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Dave - jun knows aobout it - you can talk to her so you know I am not BSing you.

Dana - see - thats shady though - it pisses me off because no one came to me.

Dave explains that no one felt they could trust Dana because she went over to Justin, Jee, Robert so fast.

Dana - I feel bad cause michelle has been crying so much

Dave - thats why she needs to go soon.

Now Dave saying we have to get HoH.

Mranon

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 09:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dave talking to Dana :

says "this may be a shock, but you gotta vote michelle off"

dave : it's because you went in with justin and robert too soon. We all pulled back.. we already have the numbers. you should vote with all of us. we are gonna keep erika and vote michelle off. Jee robert and justin think they have me and jack coming over to them.

Dave says that Dana was gone next week according to jee and robert (or justin)

dana : I have no deals with anybody.

dave : I told her I would tell you today (about the plan)

dana : pissed off. nathan asking what she has been doing.

dave : everyone thought she was a double teamer

dana : makes her made

dave : michelle not playing, does she expect to walk out with 500,000

dave : nothing can get out about this

dana : but it is gonna come out

dave (after the vote) we want it to come out

discussion about the alliance.

Dave skeptical about things, thinks he is next on the block (jee and nathan and rob)

dave talking about numbers. saying without you (dana) it's 5-3, with her it's 6-2

Dana : so mad that people are trying to play her all week. Almost as though everyone wanting to find out what she was doing before deciding.

Dana : are you willing to go back on your word? (to jee and group)

Dave : yes, they are f'd

dana : if I go up next week..

dave : talking about erika volunteering herself as a pawn next week

dana : if they got it next week she would go up regardless

(missing some stuff here, but the jist is here)

dave : some people didn't want to tell you

dana : why

dave : because people weren't sure how close you were with them

dana : this is so crazy, obviously I will vote with the group

dave : she (michelle) doesn't belong here. Compared with Erika, Erika is so much more on our side. We could have used her (michelle).

dana : if I go with this group and someone goes against me, I am gonna lose my sh*t

dave : we have to win HOH. Those boys are totally clueless. And need to stay clueless until it is announced. they are gonna hate it then, but they will see it as a brilliant move. Jee can't go for HOH. If I get it ,they are gonna go up. We have to split them up. Funny thing is, Jee and rob talking about how they want to get outta here.

*posting*

Angi7pangi

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Quad all on Dana/Dave convo in desert room.

Dana -Let me ask you something since we're being honest here. did you go in there (Jee/Justin/Robert) and say that you wanted me up if you used the veto?
Dave-Yes.so I could see where you stood with them. They said that you were up next week anyway.

Mranon

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dave : this will give me a chance to let the group know you are with them.

Dana : that's fine, but you undestand me. If this group gets HOH and I go up..

Dana : I am a threat.

Dana : I have to be stupid to vote against the group. This is crazy.

Dave thinks they are good thinkers.

Dana thinks they totally trust Dave. Dave says that is why it's gonna be great.

Dave basically telling her that he has been duping them.

Dave saying that he told them he would put Dana up. They said Dana is gone next week, we are sticking to the plan. Dave was shocked about this. Jack said use her as bait to find out where they are at.

Dana : I'll kill you next week if I go up. I am coming back at you.

Talking about Ali and last night almost giving it up. Dave covering.

Dave says they go after the three amigos after HOH.

Dana will be flipping out when those numbers are read.

Dave told the group dana is not with them. They are paranoid.

Dana says if nobody trusts me enough to ask me an honest question, that sucks for me.

Dave says I know you are shocked and everything, but it will be mellow after this.

Dana still concerned about them winning HOH and they will all be a target.

Dave saying they have the numbers. They cant offer us anything good.

Ryn

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dave - they have to be broken up - even if one of us has to go next week.

Right now without you its 5-3

With you its 6-2

Dana says she is gonna go with the group.

She says she is so mad that people have been playing her all week.

(ed - I don't think Dana is goign to keep her mouth shut on this - word will get out)

Dana - so you are willing to go back on your word? (To not nominate Justin & Robert)

Dave - with them yeah - everyone wants them up.

Dave - Erika says she will go up as a pawn next week if they get HoH (Justin/Robert).

Dave -You can't let them know about this, it needs to be a surprise.

Dave - some people didn't want you to know

Dana - why?

Dave - because you were so close to them.

Dave - they don't realize we already have the numbers.

Dana keeps saying - she will vote with the group, she feels bad for michelle, she is going to be so upset.

Dave - thats why she doesn't belong here. If she got HoH she could be played by them.

Dana - if I go with this group and someone ••••• me I will be so mad.

Dave - everyone is safe until all the "ex's" are gone.

Dave explains again how announcing Michelle is out will upset and confuse Robert & Justin - so the odds of them getting HoH are slim.

Dave says if anyone gets HoH that Robert and Justin are going up.

Dave says - funny thing is how much they are talking about wanting out (Jee and Robert) - I mean fine - we'll ge you out.

Dave - I mean - you knew what you were getting yourself in to.

Dana - this place nausiates (sp) me, I men you have to know how hard it is for me to trust you guys after this.

Dave - thats why I am telling you, because you voting with us shows that you are one of us.

Dana - if you think I am that stupid to vote with 2 vs 6 (sic) - then you are stupider.

Dave - I am sticking to my original pact (the eight) so I will tell them (the 3) whatever they want to hear - cause I am stickign with the original pact.

Dana - did you go in and tell them to use the veto and put me up?

Dave - yes - I did

Dave - I wanted to se what they would do with you - wanted to test them. (ed - he is bs'ing her). etc etc etc - he gives her a song and dance that explains why he would have done that.

Dana - so Alison almost blew your cover last night (ed - not sure why)

Dave - yeah.

Dana - so everyone is in on it

Dave - yeah

When those numbers are read.. holy sh**t****

Dave - laughs..

Dana - so you guys had the numbers without me

Dave - yeah - but we/I wanted you back in the group (pp)

Dana - it proves myself to you...

....

Dana - if they get HoH we are all a target.

Dave - they keep offering us stuff, trying to get us come over....

Ryn

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lots of coverage (good)

Summary - Dana is in the fold now - will vote with the other 5. Knows not to tell Justin/Robert/Jee

Dana - so these numbers are not going to go any other way? 6-2?

Dave - yeah

Dana - if it goes 5-3.....

Dave - we will know someone is against us....

Dave - its a great test for all of us.

Someone opens the desert room door. not sure who - closes it.....

It was one of the 3 I think......

Dana working on explaining her reasons for being alone with Dave...

Dana comes up with a line "its gonna be hard to get rid of Michelle" .. no - that won't work...

Dave tells her to double check with Jun

Mranon

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
(ed: notice how BB hasn't called them into the DR yet?)

Dave and Dana still chatting about dave duping Jee. Laughing about it.

Dana has no problem with this.. Dave assuring her there won't be a problem if any of the group gets HOH.

Dana saying that if everyone else can dupe michelle, she can too.

Dana checking the numbers again, making sure it will be 6-2. If it's 5-3 then someone else is ..

Robert comes in and says wassup. Leaves.

Dave says if they ask her anything, to say that they were talking about how hard it is to get rid of Erika. Dana says Rob won't buy it. Talking about how to cover this convo.

Agree to say that talking about Michelle.

They get up and are giddy. Dana says she didn't want it like this. Dave says it was forced with the whole X thing.

Convo over. Posting!

Seamonkey

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow.. Dave is now telling DANA that she needs to vote Michelle out.. that no one has trusted her lately but this is a chance for you to be back "in".. we have the numbers without you, gonna keep Erika.

The Jee-three think they have Dave and Jack..

Dave is telling her that Jee-three have said Dana is gone next week, etc..

Dana claims no deals with anybody, etc.

Dave says Jun knows, Dave told Jun he'd talk to Dana today..

Dand is (just guess??) pi$$ed off now.. she says it is shady, she is so mad.

Dave says people thought she was double dealing.

Dana says not at all ( :) )

Dave is telling Dana the time for this to come out is when the vote is announced.. (in other words, don't run to Jee-three, Dana)

Dave is doing a good job but Dana's not totally buying it.

Dave says Jee-three has to be broken up.

Looks like Erika came in and out..

Dave says it is 5-3 without her; with her it is 6-2.

Dana is really angry and pi$$ed that she wasn't in on everything all along.

Dana says if you won HOH.. Dave says they would go up (Justin and Robert)..

Dana says if she goes up next week, she's gonna F-in

Dave tells Dana that Erika has even offered to go up as a pawn.

Dana says regardless, Erika would go up again (ed. uh, no...)

Dave says some people don't want to tell Dana.

Why??

Dave claims that he has finally concluded that Jee-three are using Dana.

Dana says this is so crazy.

Dana says obviously she'll vote with the group.
Feels bad because Michelle will cry.

Dave repeats that Michelle doesn't belong here, just because this will be so hard. Michelle is weaker than Erika on our side.

Dana's concern is that is she goes with this group, all F-ing HELL will break lose, etc etc.

Dave says no.. all the exes go first.

Jee-three must be surprised after the vote..

They'll hate it then but later they'll see it was a brilliant move.

Dana agrees that it has to be a surprise (ed. cams will be following her everywhere).

Dave says Jee and Robert keep talking about wanting to get out of here.. Dana says yeah missing girlfriend.

Dave says, well we can send them home now.

Dana is "f-ing nauseated" by this place.

Hard for her to trust you guys since they didn't trust her.

He says this is a way for Dana to prove herself.

Dana says she'd have to be a really dumb individual to go with two instead of six..

Dave has said a couple of times that all the exes must go first.

Dave says if this happened to him, he'd have to admire.

Dana says Jee-three totally trusts Dave. (??)

Dave says he keeps the pact intact until the 7 are alone.

Dana asks if Dave went in and told Jee-Three he would use the F-ing veto and put Dana up.. said he did indeed so he could find out if Dana was part of the Jee-three but they refused (ed.. Dave is doing very well)

Dana says she will kill Dave if she goes up next week.

Dave says that's find.

Dana says she called out Ali last night, Ali said guess they stay with the original 8.

Dave says talk to Jun discreetly.. has to stay secret..

Dave is glad Dana knows about it.. Dana says either way you have it.. but this gives me an opportunity to get back.

Dana says that kinda sucks, that nobody was willing to talk to her.. Dave says yeah it does but this is the chance to turn that around.

Dave.. I know you're shocked and everything.. will be pretty mellow after this.

Dana knows, but SH!T we're all a F-ing target.

Dave.. we've got the numbers.. Jee-three offers stuff but they don't have it.

Dana's surprised Jee-three didn't claim her.

Now they are trashing Jee.

Dave telling Dana that Jee-three said no problem, Dana will be gone next week.

Dana says no problem keeping the numbers strong..

Dave says all will be after the two boys (Robert and Justin)

Dana says poor Michelle, OMG. Dave says will be good for Michelle.

Dana says if it goes 5-3.. Dave says it means someone F'd up.

Dave says 6-2 is a good test for everyone.

Dana agrees.

Robert pops in and says whassup? Leaves. Dana says that was scary.

Dave says Dana can just tell Robert she was in there trying to find out if Dave was trying to save Michelle.

Dave says nothing F-ing gets out until the vote is announced. Dave again tells Dana to talk to Jun, discreetly.

Dana says this place is so crazy..

Dave is out of room and Robert now in tortoise room with Justin or Robert.. sounds awkward but Dana gets out of room.

Dana now over by back bedrooms, Justin follows her..

Michelle is now up, yawning.
Justin asks Dana what's wrong.. she says she is tired and freezing.

Justin in bed, Dana sitting there still..

Camera just waiting, waiting.

Justin again asks what's wrong.

Dana says she f-ing hates waking up in this place.

Dana says she thought she was so f-ing smart, but she knows nothing.

Michelle comes back from getting batteries, says she is freezing.

Michelle says she doesn't have to go in (to DR) until after.

Justin says that's what they did last time.

Dana says Michelle doesn't have to go in (ed.. i bet she does, at least to record a goodbye to Erika).

Jack is in DR now.

Dana says this is not a good week to be pre-menstrual.

She's getting dressed.

Mranon

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana in room with Justin. Justin asks what is wrong. She covers with "I am tired"

Camera's are covering Dana in case she blows it.

Dana says she hates waking up in this place. Dana talking to Justin.

J asking what is going on. There was a lot of sh*t going on last night.

Dana says I dunno (but she wants to say it) She says she though she knew what was going on but.

Dana : Man this is not a good week to be pre-menstrual (ed: I can't believe I had to type that)

Dana now getting dressed. She is looking up at cam. Cam are sticking to her like glue.

Ryn

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana - sighing - in blue room.....

someone (male) in bed....

Justin...

asks Dana whats wrong?

She says I thought I was so smart......

Justin - whats wrong???

Dana not answering...

Michelle comes in - do I have to go in now or later?

Dana - you don't have to go in (to the DR).

Dana - man this is not a good week to be pre-mensrtral

Mranon

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
**outta here** (thanks for picking it up sea and ryn)

Dana yelling outloud that this sucks.

jn

Ryn

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana confirming dave's story with Jun - also stuff about "last night"

but its impossible to hear

they are talking like this - with their mouths frozen.....

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they break up - I could hear jun say "right before the vote"

Seamonkey

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana's hanging around Jun, staring with big eyes.. finally they are whispering together so Jun telling Dana yes this is how it will go..

Hard to hear with Dave "singing" in background.

Lots of complaining about BB not replenishing butter, white bread, etc.

Dana stalks outside to hammock.. says she hates this place, hates waking up here, everything about it.

She's complaining to Robert right now. He tells her this isn't real life, this is what you're here for.. she knows, but..

She's Unhappy in a Hammock.. wow, even crying a little, dabs tears with sleeve of robe.

Ryn

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It seems Jun might be telling Dana that she didn't know about this vote until very recently...

Dana is pretty upset - lets Jun know she is not happy because no one told her anything, no trust, etc.

Goes out to hammock - as she left it looked like Dave/Jun/Alison might have been conferring - but all cams stick with Dana.

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Someone outside asks her whats up - she says "I fing hate this place thats all"

Ryn

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee, robert on cam one - on the back patio...

talking bout nothing....

Robert goes in to get on t-shirt to vote...

Jee goes in..

Erika comes out - asks if Dana is OK.

Dana says it sucks, etc etc.....

Says she has been with the "original plan" from the start....

Dana - you don't have to worry about it - I am going to vote to keep you....

Dana - I just might be a target....

Erika - Your not.... we wanted you onboard from the start - but...

Dana - you thought I had jumped already...

yeah...

Erika - ...... - just came in and he was all pissed off.......

Dana - it sucks - you just wanna trust somebody, and I don't have anyone....

Erika - talks again about how they wanted her but couldn't trust her.

Dana - still concerned it could happen again (no one trust her - vote her out)

Erika explains the reasoning for Dave and the Veto thing - checking out the pecking order.

Dana paged to Diary room...

Erika - talkign to someone - nathan and Alison...

"she's just upset because she wasn't told"

Erika - I told her she made it very difficult.

Nate - how is she voting?

Erika - she said she is voting for me to stay.. we'll see.

Erika now telling them to cover Dave - the story about the veto - to tell her they knew it would get back to Dana - they were testing the guys (the "3")

Erika goes in...

Ali - sing-song "Dana wigged out...."

Nathan - she didn't have a clue....

Ali - the worst thing is is that she asked me 2 minutes before Dave pulled her in how I was voting, and I said 'i guess I am voting for erika' - laughs....

posting - they are re-hashign this..


Alison says the Diary Room asked her when she went from being cool to crazy

Alison said she told them "as soon as we took her straight jacket off."

They just wish that they were getting Dana out this week instead of Michelle.

nate - the thing is they are not going to know who to go after, and we are still strong..

Ryn

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Alison, nate playing basketball

She says Robert is mad about something - was asking Ali what was wrong with Dana - she mad eup an excuse - homesick.


Cam cuts to Robert, Dave, Jee in the LR.....

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Robert looking at Nathan & Ali playing BB - says they are weak

Robert - doesn't mater, they are out of here next week.

Dave is shufflinf, and laughing (ed - wonder why - lol).

Erika comes over with food... conversation ends

Ryn

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee comes out from somewhere - says he has a theory as to why Dana was crying, he says he will tell him later.....

Robert says shes not very strong if she is crying already...

Justin is there as well. Dave gone...

Seamonkey

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Can hear Jee asking Robert wassup.. Cam switches to Jee and Robert talking about pancakes. Jee mentions IHOP. Robert asks Jee if they have Denny's. Jee says not in NY. Robert says Denny's is a sh!thole anyway.

They determine, with Dana, that it is the 22nd.

Robert says he's going to put on a shirt to make his vote.

Jee is stretching, Dana sitting on hammock, wiping away tears, very hurt.

Jee goes inside.

Voice asks if Dana's ok.

Dana says, I'm livid, Erika. How can she trust all these people who wouldn't F-ing tell her what is going on.

How will they protect her?

Erika says they will, they just had to know for sure if Dana would be with them.

Dana says she's always been with the group, only swayed when she heard someone wanted to put her up.

Tells Erika not to worry about it, she'll vote with the group. Worried that she'll be put up next.

Erika says they wanted her to know about it from the beginning, but weren't sure..

Dana says that I was gone?

Yeah.

Dana says you want to just trust somebody, doesn't have that person and it sucks.

Pre-menstrual and it sucks.

Erika says we wanted you.

Dana says it sucks that people looked in her face all week, etc.

But Dana's using some of the words Dave used, so she absorbed them.

Basketball sound.

BB: DANA, please go to the DR.

Ali and Nate are out with Erika...

Nate asks Erika what she told Dana..

Nate asks.. how is she voting? Erika says she said she was voting for me to stay.

They all agree Dana is a loose cannon. Ali and Nate say it would have been perfect this week if Dana was up and out.

Erika explains how Dave explained it to Dana.

Ali thinks that is way cool.

Ali and Nate say Dana doesn't have a clue.. Ali says three minutes before Dave pulled Dana in to the room, Dana asked Ali and Ali said "I guess I'm just voting Erika out".. giggles.

Nate says he told her she'd be in big trouble if she put any of the alliance up if she got HOH.

They both say things are going as planned, but still better if Dana was going and Michelle was staying.

Ali says DR asked here when Dana went from "cool to crazy".. and Ali told them as soon as they removed the straight-jacket.

Ali is quite gleeful, as is Nate, that Dana is so upset. Ali says Dana started F-ing bawling and ran outside. Ali says Robert is going crazy that he asked what happened when Dana ran outside.

They both agree that they couldn't stand being sequestered with Robert. Justin would be ok.

Dave and Justin and Robert are talking.. trashing Nate. Robert says he thinks he's the kingpin, has all the girls, F-ing joke.

Robert has expanded on his routine, ream nose, pinch nose and now he's added ear reaming ..

He does look nervous.

Justin looks real quiet and thoughtful.

Dave was making fun of Erika's coughing and then had to get up to wash his hands when it got too "real".

Dana still in DR.

Robert and Justin sit on couches and both look worried.

Jee has a theory why Dana is crying, he'll let Robert know later.

Robert says Dana is weak.

Jee-three now all on couches/chairs in LR. Jee shuffles cards.

The camera is loving it.

Ryn

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Robert... All we need is one more voluntary exit... for dana to walk out...

all four cams still on the 3 stooges, amigos, etc as they sit and Jee plays solitaire.

Dana still in the Diary Room.

Ryn

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Comments that Jun was very vocal in her dreams last night.

Dana out of the Diary Room, Justin in....

Justin said "monrning dana how are you?"

Dana - inaudible

Justin - seen better days huh?

4 cams rotating between kitchen and living room - no talking...

Dana in the kitchen......

talking quietly to Jun...

Jun - you upset because you were the last to find out?

Jun - I was the second to last.....

Seamonkey

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dave is doing a rendition of "I'm a Little Teapot.." while trying to get lint off his black shirt.

Jee says Dave is crazy. Robert sniffs.

Robert says all we need is one more voluntary ex Dana to flip out.. very tight grin.

Justin says he slept well but Jun woke him up with her orgasm.. Jun shouts to shut up.. Jun says she can't even dream?

BB: Justin, please go to the DR.

Justin asks Dana how she is.. seen better days.

Robert follows Dana? like a heat-seeking missile.. Jee left alone with his cards.

Jun and Michelle in kitchen.. Jun cooking and eating. Michelle not cooking.

Dana now in kitchen too, and Jack.

Dana says did Jun really have an orgasm? Jun says she might have, it was a really good dream, several people heard it.

Dana now complaining to Jun that she was the last one to find out.

Jun answers in calm voice, as usual.

Dana says she's not eating today, hope she doesn't wake up tomorrow.

Dana's going back to bed.

Dana pretending to spit in the food she cannot eat.

Dana said she asked them for white bread, they said they gave them some yesterday. She told them you've got five people, three of them guys, eating bread.

Dana goes back to the bedroom, sitting on bed.

All four cams on her, waiting to see who homes in on her.. She sighs, gets under covers. Lots of muttering and sighing and cover rustling.

Ryn

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana off to bed - says she doesn't care if she wakes up tommorow.....

All 4 cams on her in bed - sighing

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