Archive through July 24, 2003
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July 24, 2003 - Day 20 - Dana nominates Alison & Jack:
Archive through July 24, 2003
Jdctexas | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 05:51 pm     Quad Cams Dana and Jun in Storage room, now walking out with food. Robert, Justin and Jack and the prep table with Jun and Dana. Jack: I love pretzels. _No discussion of the noms_ Alison breifly in cams 2 and 3, Laying down, face red. Jack to Dana: I understand Dana: I'm glad you do. You're adult enought to handle it. Dana grabs some bottles, heads back to HOH saying she's putting them in the fridge. Dana to Just: Make no mistake, all 4 of you vote her *** out Posting BBT 5:50 |
Ryn | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 05:51 pm     Dana stops justin and said something like - let no mistakes be made or all four of you are out of here.... Nate heads towards Ali |
Ryn | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 05:53 pm     Nate tells Ali that Erika and Nate and Dave agree that Ali is stronger - won't use the veto and send Jack out. Ali might use the veto if she gets it...
Ali says she lied face to face with her... she is very very very mad. Nate says david is so pissed off right now. Nate says jack is out...... (posting and out.......) |
Jdctexas | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 05:57 pm     Quad cams: Nate and Alison in Desert bedroom: Alison: I need POV...if I'm here next week, I'm going to demolish her. Nate: Either way, you're here next week. We have the vote to get Jack out. We've discussed this already. If I get POV, I'm not using it. There is no way Jack is staying here over you. Ali: I just want to take her out. Nate: Keep your cool. Dave is mad. If I get POV, I'm not going to use it. I hate to say it, but Jack is gone. Lots of whispering Ali: What about Jun Nate: I'll talk to Jun. If you want POV, go for it, but I'm going for it too. Damn it, Dana. Nate and Ali leave the room. Posting 5:58 |
Starseed | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 05:58 pm     Nathan, to Alison: This is the plan... Alison: Nathan, I'm winning that veto tomorrow. Nathan: If I win the veto, I'm gonna keep it the same, because you're gonna be in [the house]. Jack's a weaker player. We've already discussed it. Alison: If that's the case, then why can't we just take me off the block, and vote [Jack's] ass out? Nathan: David's so pissed off right now. He's like, '[Dana's] dead; she's gone.' Discussing how the votes will go, Alison worried that the votes will come down to the tiebreaker. (ed - only seven votes are cast this week, so there could not be a situation in which Dana would decide a tiebreaker) Alison: You heard [Dana] tell me to my face that I was safe. |
Starseed | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 06:04 pm     FEED 2 Erika and Alison, sitting on the floor, in the hallway. Erika: [The decision] really fvcks me, bad. Alison: You? Everyone... [Dana] told me to my face; I was safe. ... Alison: I *will* make this ugly tomorrow. Erika: [Dana] made it impossible for you to use the veto, because she'll put up Nathan. Because [Dana] put up [Alison and Jack] that means I have to fvcking choose; that sucks so bad. But you [Alison] are a far stronger player. This is hurting my brain. Alison: Oh isn't it exciting! |
Starseed | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 06:16 pm     FEED 4 Dana and Justin are playing cards on the blue couch in the LR. Jun enters: [she (Erika?) asked me], 'who are you gonna vote out?' Take a fvcking chill pill! The nominations were decided two minutes ago! Jun leaves. FEED 1 Jun and Robert in the kitchen, she repeats this comment to him. Erika enters, Dana enters. Apparently ants have infested the kitchen area. Changes to BY with Alison and Nathan... Alison: [Dana] cornered us. Dana's cries about the ants in the kitchen can be heard. David: This is a good move to split up fvcking everything. Alison: With my ex! With my ex... ... Alison: Do you guys promise me you'll go after her next week, no matter what? [Evidently the answer is yes.] Okay, that's I'll I need to hear. David: If I get [HOH], [Dana's] gone, it's a done deal. Speculation about the veto competition follows... |
Whit4you | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 06:16 pm     N? - This is a good move to split up f'n everything. A - Yup I'm sorry Jack... did she talk to you? She came in my room and I told her to get the f' out. A - Jack did she tell you you were safe at all?? she told me to my face in front of Nate and Erika that I was safe. J - no she didn't say one way or another A - she's a lying b**** you promiise me to my face that you'll go after her no matter what?? Thank you that's all I needed to hear. male - it'll all work out - trust me. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 06:23 pm     Ali is saying to Erika that Dana made it personal. ERika says she hates to say it but your ex boyfriend might be evil.. (ed. would Erika actually vote to evict JACK?) |
Starseed | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 06:25 pm     FEED 1 Erika and Alison lounging on the chairs in the BY, mostly in silence. Alison biting her nails; Erika staring off into space. Alison: [The nomination] is personal, after me. It has nothing to do with Jack, nothing to do with strategy. [Dana] made this sh!t personal. Erika: I hate to say it, but your ex-boyfriend might be evil. [laughter, then more silence] Alison: Erika, what do you think the veto competition is gonna be? Erika: It could be anything, anything... Alison: I bet it's gonna be one of those things where we eliminate each other. Erika: Could be... Erika puts her head down. Erika [I think she said]: Oh, kiddo, I hate this. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 06:44 pm     Erika and Jun agree that hands are tied with veto.. if Ali is vetoed, Nate will go up; if Jack is vetoed, David will go up.. or something similar. Also Robert sat with Justin and Dana for a minute and laughed and said that NO one will dare to come to the jee-three for support.. The guys outside are laughing, I think Jee was trying to fix furniture but it didn't work. Jun says Jee will tell you his dad was a carpenter. Says when her mother first heard she gasped, she thought Jun said Jee's dad was a car painter. Jee is still working on furniture. Robert outside with Jee.. Robert said we have to thank Justin for this nomination. Jee isn't buying that, says people saw the jeethree power.. Robert lets Jee preen but still says this is working out great for them. I'm out, need some rest. oops.. tortoise room conference.. Dave, Erika and Jack.. Nate was last in the keybox.. and Erika says Dana said to Nate that she put Nate's key last in the box. Erika thinks if Ali is off, Nate will be up. Jack says it has been brewing for awhile, time for Dana to make her move. Erika says they didn't confer with each other last night answers to HOH questions.. Dave doesn't trust her. They discuss that HOH comps will differ. Jack says the questions were easy, we knew them all.. just too late on the buzzer. They now go over today's contest. Dave says there is NO way to use the veto and force Erika to put up one of the jee 3 stooges.. nope.. she would have done it already. Erika says basically we will lose either Nate or Ali and Jack will stay there as a pawn. Jack agrees. Erika says she told Ali to calm down. Says she just hated Dana so much and keeps saying it, people hear. Jack says when we win have to put Justin and Dana up. Dave says it is all his fault for not using veto. And they blew it with Amanda. Erika thinks Nate and Ali wouldn't have voted to keep Amanda. Dave says Jun is in a prime position.. Erika says yes, she can choose her side. Then they can put up Jun against Dana (ed. grrr) Dave says going after Jun would be a mistake. Jack says Jun has no choice will have to go with Dana. Erika says the tide has turned. posting. |
Whit4you | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 06:46 pm     Allison asks the others how she should handle Dana - should I talk to her or not? One of the guys says not to talk to her 'anything and everything can be used against you" E - I can't wrap my head around this right now - I've got to sleep on it. this sucks so bad. E - I hate to say it but your X boyfriend might be evil. A - go figure. E - it's so distatsteful E - your in the same position I was in last week. My x was responsible for my nomination and I think your X is responsible for yours. (J talking to Erika and David) J - I complimented her - that's the way to play the game. I couldn't talk her into riding with us.. to help her at the end. E - she's after Allie D - I Hope so J - ya she's after Allie J - we are outvoted now we have to win - we have to have all kinds of strategies and win when it counts. WE know the answers but we aren't breaking through. E - I'm just happy that she didn't put you and David up.. she wants to break up the Nate and Allie show Jack - she kept talking to me, so I knew I was going up E - if Allie uses the veto she's goint to put up nate D - is that for certain? E - no but she put Nate up last in the vote box, she said she did that on purpose. She said that to Nate. Because it's kind of a clue to say - if you use the veto on her your going up. D - she trust those f's ? They will turn on her in a second J - I told her if she's goint ot make a move this is the time to do it. It's been brewing a while. We will keep our cool and we'll get even. We've got to win though. D - win the MOCK head of household. I revoke Sasquach. That's what you should say. E - what we didn't do last night - we didn't confer with each other, we didn't have to comepete with each other just make sure you know the answer. J - another way to think about it is, we have to all go for it.. not knowing our reaction time on the buzzer, if a couple of us hold back. E - but if we have 5 seconds we have time. J - we can't be blurting out answers D - 5 seconds on what?? E - on the buzzer. J - the reaction is to pop it out - we probably won't do this again The questions were easy too J - we've been digging deep but the Q's have all been pretty basic. I felt really confident standing out there last night. D - there's no way to use the veto and put one of the three stoogest up E - no J - nope E - no she would have already done it. E - we lose either nathan or allie, because your going to stay. So we won't use the veto on you - obviously. J - right don't use it. E - I told Allie to calm down, she's so emotional, she hates her - people think I'm nots but you know (pp) J - since we don't have the numbers when we win - we just put them up - put two of them up. Justin and Dana. We've been saying since we came in here, we need to get him E - he's responsible for this, he's been responsible for both the nominations D - Justin? E - righjt J - it's all our fault E - we should have used the veto D - and amanda too J - we threw away one E - we did bigtime - we would have been outnumbered anyways cause N and A wouldn't have voted to keep her. J - we didn't lobby hard enough E - it would have been 3 to 6 and for sure Dana and Jun voted her out D - Jun is in a prime position E - and she knows it - she can choose either side who gets the power - D - right E - we could put her up against Dana - break up the two swing player at least we know which side everyohne is on J - it's a possiblity - still we'll get one - Justin or Dana D - I think going after Jun will be a mistake - we don't want her to think we are after her J - Jun doesn't ahve a choice she'll have to go with Dana E - the tide has turned J - overnight - that's the way the game goes E - ya J - last night we had them 6 - 3 now it's 4/5. If we lose allie... D - I say Justin and Robert go up - it's way to early though J - did I lave you out there? Nate (walks in) I need you to spot me ... What do you guys think?? no we don't use the veto J - no or you'll be up next E - no it was a clue why she put your key next - if you use the veto your up next... N - she's a traitor bigtime J - we just got to win... N - justin - I'd put ?? (her?) out before robett J - if they get the power next week we have to play well not just talk about it. (jack and nate leave) Dave - who goes next? E - Allie? D - ??? E - I don't know that's why I'm asking (Allison walks in) A - why are you so upset? D - I'm not upset, I'm just pi**ed that she made this move A - well now she'll have 4 people after here, it's the dumbest move she could have done D - well she believes that .. robert .. (missed some) she's going with her gut. A - guts are going to send her home E - Robert can be very persuasive, he's a con man. A - whatever I'm not going to die, I'll go home and do my own thing. She's f'n stupid, when it comes to like playing this game, she just threw her a** out. When I'm gone next week, keep an eye on Jee and Jun I think there's an allaince there. D - ya.. A - the silent but deadly type. E - hmmm A - I'm not going for the veto tommorow D - why? A - because if I get off she'll put up nate or one of you guys, it's not worth it E - she'll put up nate A - ya she really would ... A - I handed her that HOH you know how pissed I am at myself right now, I hate to be outsmarted by someone not as smart as me. THe thing that gets me is she looked me in the face and told me I was safe, in front of june and nate. So don't ever ever ever listen to another word that oomes out of that womens mouth again D - ya I don't I told the three stooges...(missed some) (girls laugh) A - I may get home for my boyfriends 21st - if he's still my boyfirned D - screw that guy he's an a**hole
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Seamonkey | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 06:50 pm     Nate comes in and agrees with them that they cannot use veto.. Erika points out that the key position was a clue that Nate would go up if they use veto. Nate would put Dana up before Robert. Jack and Nate leave.. Jack aplparently left nate outside while he brought in the turtles. Erika and Dave alone. Erika says who goes, Ali? Dave says who's better at winning.. Erika says Ali (ed. yikes.. after all Jack has done for her.) Ali comes in.. Erika says it sucks. Alli says she'll be fine. Ali says to them why get so upset. Dave and Erika are both pissed.. Ali says now she'll have people after her, dummest thing she could have done. Dave says Dana bellieves that Robert didn't say anything about her, going with her gut.. F-ing idiot. Erika says Robert can be very persuasive; he's a con-man. Ali says Whatever.. Not gonna die. Ali says Dana is stupid playing this game, just threw here a$$ out. (ed. yeah but Dana makes the jury) Ali says she won't go for the veto tomorrow.. if she takes herself or Jack off.. someone else will go up. Ali thinks it would be Nate no matter who was taken off. |
Whit4you | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 07:05 pm     (I missed the initial meeting confrontation.. but here's the end of it... between Allison and Dana in the kitchen) Dana - I looked at everyone as an indiviual A - maybe you won't it doesn't matter - it really don't - this is an experience - Honestly I thought when I found out about the whole sequestering thing - I'd hoped if I was going to leave it'd be this week. I'm not going for the veto this week. I'm fine - I don't want you to think I'm not. I didn't want to say anything right away Dana - tha'ts fine I wasn't going to force you to talk to me right away. . (as others walk in) Allison - Jun was in here cooking - we scared her off.. JUN... JUN come back........ |
Ryn | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 07:09 pm     Alison confronts Justin, tells him that she is disapointed that he didn;'t tell her that she was going to come up. He says that he didn;t know anything, had no influence....(ed - this is a bald face lie btw - but that is par for this house)
 She is asking how Justin how he is going to vote - he says he will vote the way Dana wants because she saved his neck |
Ryn | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 07:14 pm     Nathan continues to say he knew nothing about this confrontation... he says he think she was targeted because she has the brains and HoH is about brains... Alison, she hates me because of you.... Justin - She says she hates you because of the way you were in the house..... Alison disagrees... Justin says that everyone was telling Dana she can't trust Justin... Alison says she never talked back about Justin and Justin says he never talked bad about her (ed - lie, lie) Alison said Dana will be out soon and Justin will have to fight for his life..... He says yesterday he was desperate, and today he has a new life. Ali - so if you get the veto you will not use it Justin - absolutly not. Justin says he is sorry and leaves Ali - don't be sorry Alis sits and examines her nails.. Ali - to herself, what are my chances to win that god damn veto..... She buries herself in covers... looks at a picture from under them....
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Ocean_Islands | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 07:15 pm     Justin and Allie are in the double room. Justin: You were fake. Allison: I was not. Justin: Ok, if you think you're not, ok. Allison: I ... Justin: You said I hate that and I want to kick her ass. And then the next day you are doing each other nails, and it's just fake shit. I understand its strategy. At the same time, it's 'you can't trust Justin', and all that. I've known everything. I've known about that. And so, you know, that's it. It's just what the . Campaign against me. Allison: I never once campaigned about you, or talked bad about you. Justin: And me neither for you. Allison: I don't know why you are trusting her now, when last week you said ... Justin: Because I have to, the only reason I am here is because of her. I'm doingright now what I have to do, I mean me not getting put up there changed everything. But that is exactly what I needed, because yesterday was not the situation I needed. Now everyone is scrambling. And that's what I want. Allison: N' if you get the veto, you're not going to use it Justin: Absolutely not. Allison: that makes sense. Justin: I'm sorry. Allison: Don't be sorry. |
Ryn | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 07:26 pm     Card playing is going on.... Dave, Erika, Robert not really talking in the room as Justin and Dana laugh and play cards.... I think Dana whispered "its weird" (I am guessing because of the tension in the house...) Jack was exercising on the floor, Jun in the kitchen.... Cam 3 - Alison/Nate in the Red Bedroom talking... Alison - says she feels like she put everyone in this position..... Ali - Jacks a good player, I think I am ..... I don't wanna put anyone in that position... Nate - Ali - don't ever count me out - I will do whatever it takes to keep you in.. try to get Jun.. (Jun seems to be the swing vote) Ali - I mean if you guys wanna save jack - I mean please just don't like to me, I don't hold grudges.... Nate - Ali......just don't quit on me now...anything can happen. Ali - Justin says if it wasn't me it was Nate - I am the brains you are the brawn... Nate - I know they are comin after me next.. its not gonna happen though.... Nate says if he gets HoH next week he os putting both of them (? Dana & ?) up . Nate says I knwo if you get Veto - you put yourself up and they will put me up - and thats ok... Ali says she cannot pull herself off the block with Jack next to her. Nate says the momentum will switch if we get HoH next week. Ali - don't believe her (Dana) she did this to Michelle she did this to me..... Nathan - Justin first... Ali - don't wait - he will go after Dave 1st.. skipping a bit... Alison says - Nate - listen to me - I have told you - Jun has a secret alliance with Jee... Nate - I have lost all trust in Jun... she is the best player, smart, funny, can cook.... Nate says he will never vote for Dana to win (in the end). |
Ryn | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 07:29 pm     Nate says he will not kiss her ass (dana's) because he knows he is on the block next no matter what he does.... nate - I'm sorry.. Ali - nate - I am not supposed to be here anyhow - I didn't apply - I don't watch this shittt Nate - she thinks she knows it all... Nate is very set on winning HoH next week, says if it is physical he will. Nate says that if he gets veto she is off - he will save her. Says he is going to not tell anyone and use it (shock Dana). |
Ocean_Islands | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 07:33 pm     Nathan and Allie in the double room. Nathan: Dont' think for a minute I am switching sides. Allie: he is going to skate through this game. Nathan: No he isn't, he's next. Allie: I mean, if you guys are in the same scheme, just please don't lie to me. I hate being lied to. I don't hold grudges. I just hate being lied to. Nathan: Just don't quit on me now. Allie: I'm not Nathan: Anything can happen. Allie: Justin is like, if it wasn't you, it was me. And I say why, and he says 'because you're the brains and he's the brawns. Nathan: And they're comin after me next, I know that Allie: Yep. Nathan: Its not gonna happen. I swear if it is a physical comp, I'm gettin it. If they decide it is a physical comp, it is mine. If something happens tonight, if I can't save you this week, I'm putting them both up, I'm promising you Allie: And if you break that promise, I'm finding you. .... Nathan: Allie you do what you need to do. Allie: That's not what I mean. If i stay, you have to stay too. I am not going for that veto, Nate. Nathan: Allie ... Allie: Honestly, you know how I am. I cannot admit that I ... I will not do it. I will go down like that. Nathan: I swear to God Allie, I screwed up totally last week. I'm not going to mess up again. Allie: Please promise me not to listen to her Nathan: In Justin's version, she's next Allie: She will come after you before Justin will Nathan: I'll talk to Robert about it, he'll vote Dana out in a heartbeat. Remember what I told them, what I told Robert, that if Dana gets HOH shes going to turn this house upside down Allie: Listen to me. Jee and Jun have an alliance. Please listen to me. I know you are not listening. If I see you outside the house, you will beleive me. Jun and Jee have an alliance. Nathan: I don't trust Jun. From day one I said Jun was the best player in this house. She can cook, she can joke ... and I was right. Damn. How did I miss that question! Man. I swear, if I have anything to do with this game, never will I vote Dana to win. And I'm not kissin her ass because I know she's puttin me on the block, that she'll stab me in the back. I'm not going to kiss her. I'm sorry. Allie: Don't be sorry. Nate, I wasn't supposed to be here, you know. I've never even WATCHED this shit. I've never SEEN the show. Nathan: She's just got to go out. Allie: I know, she just needs to go. Nathan: If you don't go for the veto, and I win, I am saving you. Allie: I will let you get it. Nathan: But I am not telling anyone. Don't stab me in the back. . . . I'm telling Dana I'm not going for it. Allie: I never would stab you in the back Nathan: I am playing every side right now. Allie: A I don't think I can use the veto if I get it, I know myself. And if I'm saved I can get HOH next week. Nathan: I'm a clutch player, you know. I didn't want it last week. But I'll get it this week. Allie: I just want to vote against that . |
Ryn | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 07:35 pm     Ali says that she doesn;t think anyone in the house is smarter than her.... she could win HoH next week. Nate says he didn't try to win Veto last time, he will this time... Ali keeps agreeing... Nate - don't think I am straying cause I am not... I am gonna play everyone.... Ali - I trust you and if you do I am gonna kill ya at the wrap party.... Ali says she isn't gonna make a big deal out of it - its a game..... Nate says he is going to play Jack and that side too. Tell them he isn't gonna use it... tell everyone he won't Dave comes in..... takes Alisons elephant - walks out.... both nate and alison leave the room.... Alison and dave fight for the elephant.... Dave holds an electric razor to the elephant... Ali screams..... then run through tht house screaming and yelling...... he tosses it back to her |
Ocean_Islands | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 07:41 pm     Allie, Erika and Jack at the card table outside. Nathan joins them. Allie: I have to do what she wants, because if it weren't for her, I'd be out, and I was like 'ok'. (laughs) She's good. One is like we'll get him out. Jack: We should have used the veto the first week. Allie: I know, but we didn't. You know, I didnt apply for this, I didn't even know what it is, so it's easy for me to leave. I'm happy. It's not like for you guys. I'm not going for the veto tomorrow, I don't want it. I'd rather have a stress free week. It's not fair to have a week like we had last week. Jack: Well I appreciate you saying that Nathan: That's great Erika: You are a class act. I'm kind of glad in a way that you are leaving, because you can see all the great things that I said about you. Allie: Oh, I'll cry for the good byes Erika: Oh it really sucks, but it sucks Nathan: Easiest damn question in the world, and I missed it! |
Ryn | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 07:42 pm     Cam 1 - Ali talking to Jack and Erika - filling them in on the stuff Justin said to her.. Jack - we shoulda used the veto the 1st week.... Ali - I am not gonna go for the veto.... I want a stress free week.. Jack and Erika compliment her. Erika says she is kinda glad Ali is leaving because she will get to see all the good things Erika said about her. Nate is still feeling bad about missing a HoH Q. Ali wants her brother to come out to get here Ali says to the cameras - you hear that people? I want my lil brother to come out to get me so we can party... Ali is sounding very resigned....part real - part act (based on her convo with Nate) |
Ryn | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 07:45 pm     Ali tells Erika and Jack not to trust Jun - nate agrees they say they think she is on the other sides alliance already.. more talk..... Nate - oh how the momentum can shift... Ali talks about the veto, it should between Nate and David - nate says - but we are not going to use it...... |
Ocean_Islands | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 07:46 pm     Nathan: Our odds were so in our favor. Even up to this date, everything went according to plan, and then Dana throws it all in the air. Allie: I have to compete tomorrow, but my heart won't be in it. Jack: Tomorrow's Friday already. Allie: I hope you guys win it. Nathan: How do you all feel about it? What about Jun? Can you believe her? Allie: Dont' EVER trust Jun. She is SO on their side! Nathan: She is playing the game. Allie: Don't let her slide through. I'd be so mad, to see her slide through. Nathan: I told the DR that Jun was the best player in this game. Erika: I was already talking about putting up Dana and Jun. Jack: Yea, we knew everything ... all the answers. Allie: We all could win every competition. Don't throw everything, because you never know. <-- out |
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