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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Alison's Debate Thread: Archive through September 24, 2003

Eliz87

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 01:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey Smokey, you're practically a neighbor! I'm in Barberton -- where do you live?

Smokey

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 01:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey, cool, Eliz. I am in North Canton--about 5 minutes from the Akron/Canton Airport.

Steveh

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 01:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I grew up a little south of Steubenville, about 45 min. from Forbes Field. I've been to hundreds of Pirates & Steelers games, Pitt too. Spent tons of time in Pittsburgh as it was the closest actual city. Bill Mazeroski--Hall of Fame 2nd baseman from the Pirates--is from my town and I met many of the 60s, 70s, 80s Pirates through him. Went to both Superbowls where the Steelers beat the Cowboys and tons of Steelers games.

I now live in Montana, but have satellite so I don't miss any Stillers games & I try to get to one game a year.

Barberton is a hell of a sports town, or at least was when I was in high school/college. I went to college in Athens, Oh and then grad school in Bowling Green, where I lived for 15 years befroe moving out here.

Kristylovesbb

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 02:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Alison just said if Jack asks her why she called him an old pervert she is going to say "I call it like I see it". She and Jun are really raggin on the evicted hgs and laughing about all the nasty things they have said about them. Alison also just said that Erika used her fake boobs to get her on the show and if she says anything to her she, Alison, will make Erika cry.

Naja

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 03:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ali has really been working herself up and practicing her mean comebacks for tonight. It's sort of fascinating. She seems almost in a nervous panic..LOL

Paisley

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 03:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
yes and Ali said that she called Jack a pervert and I think it was June who mentioned Jack has kids (maybe ali said that) so Ali's laughs and says then i should have called him a child molester and they both laugh

Paisley

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 03:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
earlier jun said that Robert can talk after he has taken some ESL courses....Ali and Jun thought that was very funny

Avrey258

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 03:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It's amazing that they are worried about what was on the tapes and yet they seem to have memory lapses about other things that were said outside the diary room.

I am not surprised by this "bashing" session. After all why change who they are now? They have been doing this for the last couple of weeks. It's kind of sad that they continue to call the other houseguests names at this point.

Coffee

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 03:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ali also said that if Nathan says anything about her calling him gay she will say that she said it before he had the chance to come out of the closet. (not exact wording but means the same)

Wendo

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 03:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Alison talks game, but I'm gonna bet she's not going to play game. If she makes someone cry or is insulting, I'll eat these virtual words.

(Of course, that means I won't be eating anything; but I know you all get the drift. LOL!)

Lancecrossfire

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 03:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So, that would make Ali all talk and no action? I'm not sure which is worse--saying you will say horrible things and actually fallowing through (at least your word is good for something), or saying them and not having the marbles to say them to the other person (no honor what so ever)

Kristylovesbb

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 03:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think Ali will either we all know that when confronted with live tv cameras sugar would not melt in her mouth.

Bbb333

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 04:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
if it is like the past with them knowing its live tv, I don't think the Past houseguests will be too harsh unless they have been told to cut loose. I hope they do tho' !

Chippy

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 04:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Pretty safe bet that Ali won't do or say a thing. She always talks a good game but shines that fake smile whenever Julie says, "hello, houseguests". It's like that little button that Julie holds is hooked to a spring in Ali's jaw. I imagine we might see some more crocodile tears from both Ali and June- Ali in particular. They've spent their waking day telling each other how great they are and how not great everyone else is. I kept hoping for one little inkling of regret or "if I had it to do over" or something- not even about the game but about needless and hurtful things they said. Just one redeeming quality... but, alas- none. Just more of the Jun & Ali Greatest Show on Earth.
Congratulations. I guess.

Steveh

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 04:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo - she's made me cry. More than once. Plus, if she thinks Jack's a pervert and a molester I wonder what she'd think of me (55 and not in Jack's good shape nor w/ Jack's non-surly demeanor). So you could say she's insluted me too. LOL LOL--do I mean them this time?

To answer someone else's question: I would find Ali more entertaining--in the perverse way that I do--if she said the stuff to the other hg's faces. And I would have more respect for her.

Finally, are we sure she means Jack from the house is a pervert and a molester or is she talking about Jack Black, Jack Paar, Jack Benny, Jack Wagner or Hugh Jackman? Or Robert?

Wendo

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 04:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lance, yep, that's what I'm saying. Ali is all talk and no action when it comes to her insults. (Regarding the game though, IMO, she is all talk and all action.) Worse? Subjective I guess. For me, following through would be worse. But I'm sure others feel the opposite.

Gee Steveh, I have no idea if you mean the LOL's or not. However, I'm rather surprised that you would be prompted to tears by a reality tv contestant. Especially one that has no impact on your life. *shrug* Different strokes for different folks I guess.

Jbfrommi

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 04:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wake me when it's over, but only if Ali loses.

Steveh

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 04:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Deleted by Steve H

Steveh

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 04:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh but Wendo they were tears of joy over the victory (the money's real, right?) of this bright, personable, worldly, gutty little well-mannered underdog CONTESTANT. Even though BB is only a game, thereby making her some kind of quasi-human, she represents the brave individual struggling against all the odds that all of us good Americans can pull for and weep for joy when said individual submerges triumphant no matter how utterly w/out intrinsic value the triumph actually is.

I am sad that you have no idea whether I really mean LOL when I write LOL.

Jbfrommi

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 04:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I believe you, Steveh

Wendo

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 04:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe add the exclamation point. "!"

That may help. LOL!

Eliz87

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 04:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, I'm treading into dangerous waters here, but I don't think Ali has a reason to apologize to anyone. Yes, she has made some pretty inflammatory remarks, but maybe she "speaks as she finds."

I don't think she went into BB expecting to make any friends, and it seems that she hasn't, and she'll just shrug it off I'm sure.

There have been a few instances of people talking trash about Ali, too, and I don't think they should apologize either. It happens. They can either accept it and go on, or hold a grudge.

Either way, chances are that Ali won't be seeing any of them again, so "c'est la vie" she will probably say as she's going to the bank with her $50K or more.

Jbfrommi

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 04:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Eliz87 said:
<<Yes, she made some pretty inflammatory comments, but maybe she "speaks as she finds.">>

Where did she find that Roberts daughter is a
B!tch? She has never even met her.

Eliz87

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 04:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
JB, she found it because she was jealous of Robert's daughter getting attention. Pure and simple. I've stated before that that comment was just a knee-jerk reaction by two people (Ali & Jun) who both have some growing up to do, and whose only way to handle jealousy is to lash out, even at the innocent. (I'm not defending this comment by Alison or any other, BTW.)

Jbfrommi

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 04:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I still think it's sick, Eliz87. I'm sorry, I think it's fine to say what they want about any of the other houseguests, but not about a kid.

Meggieprice

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 04:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Had to laugh- John was talking to Ali and Jun about the time remaining, and that it is a big night and Jun said "Is it still about us?" and John said "It's all about you" and Ali said "That's what my license plates says 'It's all about me'" and John said " Somehow I'm not surprised" LOL!