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Imz

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 07:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I appreciate Robert’s honesty. There is no doubt in my mind he held nothing back in his rant fallowing HOH. Robert spoke for a lot of us who dislike (to put it mildly) Jun and Allison. I love women in general just not these women specifically. From the piece on Donny, I could tell he’s a good guy; that makes Ali’s behavior in the house that much more deplorable. And Jun is nothing more than a parasite living off the game-play of others. Roberts display fallowing HOH was disgusting, but no less disgusting than the people to whom it was directed.

Denecee

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 08:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Robert's honesty??? That's funny. The man is weak and thinks women should do what he wants them to do and if they don't then they are useless. Alison's behavior in the house as far as Donny is concerned is not Robert's business and has nothing to do with the game or at least it didn't when Robert thought she was on his side.
IMO, Robert's behavior is way more disgusting than Alison's, at least she has the excuse of being only 23 and spoiled.

Alinthehouse

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 08:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I missed the live feeds last night. Quick question...Was Robert’s profanity/ comments directed at one female or all the females as a group?

Gina8642

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 08:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
both

Alinthehouse

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 08:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Gina

Imz

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 08:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Few would argue Robert was being dishonest about his dislike for the girls.

Osican

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 09:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Imz, seems to me thatRobert is harboring more than just "dislike" for the girls. That man/child seems to have some serious physiological problems. I noticed he was talking about his relationship with his stepmother. Does anyone know what happened to his mother? Could his relationship with her be the basis for his bent view of women?

Justboredwbb4

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 09:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Quote from Robert from Live feed thread:

Rob - no you're right. I'll get over it tonight, I'm just f'n pissed off that these who***s are going to win it, three sl**s - evil people - and people like Justin get blown out cause they are honest. F'n pisses me off. You've won two HOH's and kicked a** and you are going to get smoked. That's what makes me pissed off - you should win this game.

He got burned by Ali. Ali said she was with them. Playing that side for her own benefit.
On the live feeds Ali was dissin' Erika saying she wanted her gone maybe called her a name or 2. The guy's played her during the convo. leading her to think she was with them. As soon as she turned her back Jee and Robert confirmed to each other that what they were telling her was complete bull and they were not pulling her along with them to the finals.

Robert got burnt by his own game and that makes him mad. Poor Robert....ralph!

On another RObert subject....Robert talked to Justin at one time about not taking Jee with them to the finals. Then calls the girls all kinds of names because they told Jee the things that Robert has said behind his back to Justin. WEAK

Marymary

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 09:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I, myself, would be ashamed to defend this guy. He's scary with his rage...I'm sure (at least I HOPE) BB is staying on top of it with their psychologist. But OMG he is more than 1/2 a bubble off.

Gina8642

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 09:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Robert, Jee, and Justin were all cast with extreme speeed just before the show. I don't think BB did such a great job with the psych checks. Robert has an extreme anger problem.

I will say, Robert doesn't seem at all prone toward physical violence to people, so maybe BB doesn't care, as long as no one pulls out a knife.

Csnog

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 09:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Robert talked about liking his stepmother because she helps with caring for his daughter when he has her. He said he does NOT like his mother.

This might be where he gets his feelings about women from.

Katlady53

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 09:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Aha, Csnog! That would make sense!

Gina8642

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 09:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
He NEVER said he didn't like his mother. He was complimenting his step mother, saying she did stuff for him his own mother never did. Said his parents divorced when he was 9 or 10. Jee then asked about his 'real' mom. Robert then started saying how great she was. Jee interupted him and asked about his step dad, and Rob complimented him - said Rob goes to Vegas to visit him and is treated just like his son. I've never heard Robert say anything bad about his family.

Spygirl

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 09:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm glad you pointed that out, Gina, because Rob never said he did not like his mother. He spoke highly of her and his stepdad.

Katlady53

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 10:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, in that case, he obviously developed his personal issues regarding women elsewhere.

Spwisc

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 01:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Justboredwithbb4, THAT is what everyone is in such a tizzy about???? Robert calling a few girls wh*res & sl*ts??? While talking to a friend??? SO what!

He's never actually walked up to Erika and said you are a sl*t. Or stood talking to Ali and say you are such a wh*re. After the show is done with I would bet that Erika would laugh about his name calling because she'll probably win anyways!

Mystery

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 01:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd respect Robert more if he said some of these things to the women's faces, and risked having to deal with their reactions, than I do now with him whining behind their backs. I am so sick of him.

Justboredwbb4

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 01:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Spwisc- you made a great point there with what you said.

POINT BEING Robert, in this game, is a coward and his reference to woman in this game behind their backs is cowardly and quite psychotic. He is not only talking to a friend, my friend, he is talking to millions of people. His name calling I am sure is heard by the loved ones of those he is calling names to. How insulting and rude.

It would of been easier for you to just say Roberts a coward in this game rather than to act like you are defending Robert by making our arguement for us.

But, thanks anyway.

Marymary

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 06:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It looks like there isn't much debate about Robert any more. I'm at this conclusion...he's very immature for a man 33 years old and he has REALLY BIG anger issues. I even have a degree of compassion for him. In this world where all we really have is ourselves and our relationships with other human beings...he seems pitiful.

Sweetpea1994

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 06:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
<sd> Only a man would say what is wrong with calling a woman a wh*** or a sl**. It is disrespectful and just plain nasty to talk about women that way. Especially from a man who claims to sleep with different women on a regular basis. Can anyone say <sd>

Crossfire

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 06:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hang on a second here. I don't think men have a monopoly on name calling. In defence of men in general, I would like to point out that men can also see that such talk is disrespectful.

Spwisc

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 07:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
<sd>

Besides, Robert would be proud to be called a <sd> I think it's a cute name.

Ok, I will resist posting now!

Alinthehouse

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 07:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree, name calling is not done by only one gender. Look at how Ali has called Dana names. I feel people like Robert and Ali do it to try to justify their feelings; make themselves feel better.

In my opinion, using nasty names only makes the speaker look cheap. Say what really bugs you about the person. Do not hide behind name calling. But, them again, this type of person usually cannot face the truth about their own faults.

They have a very small vocabulary, or are unable to articulate their thoughts well. Either way, they are the ones who look bad in the end.

I feel bad that Robert at his age is doing this. In all likelihood he will not change. Could you imagine going through life with so much bitterness and anger. Life's too long. I really pity him, it's sad.

Aunt_Bob

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 09:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP

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Robert calling a few girls wh*res & sl*ts??? SO what!



*shuddering*



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After the show is done with I would bet that Erika would laugh about his name calling because she'll probably win anyways!




Is this a philosophy we should be teaching the young/teen girls growing up today: let the MAN treat you like SH•T - as long as you walk away with the MONEY??? This mother-(me) is instilling in her 15/y/o daughter to have honor, integrity, and respect & love herself first, and then, her fellow 'human beings'. From the small amount that I feel I have gotten to 'know' Erika; my take on that subject is that she will NOT find his derogatory\demeaning\disrespectful\ignorant\rude\crude *remarks* towards her and the other females funny in any way.



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Besides, Robert would be proud to be called a <sd> I think it's a cute name.



I caught the word before <sd> got a hold of it, and...

...that might NOT be a cute name, but *••••muffin* sure is-

Marymary

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 09:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I keep thinking maybe some of that talk among the younger folks on the show, like Jee, Robert, Scott, Dana, Alison and Robert (even tho' he's not that young!)is a sign of the times. I got nothing against the F word. Sometimes it's exactly the right word. Just not every other word. I wonder if I'm just getting to be a geezer. Could be. I only know it's more pleasant to listen to Erica talk than to listen to Robert rant. When he does that I have a heavy feeling in my solar plexus.