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Beruthiel

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 04:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I knew it. Jack was, is, and always will be a gentleman and a great guy! They made one of the nicest teams I've ever seen on BB.
Thanks for the info, Pengoh!

Squaredsc

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 05:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
that was a threat? ppfftttt, i thought it was something serious. should've known better i guess.

Sia

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 09:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't get the live feeds, so someone please explain: how is this "threat" (Robert & Jee allegedly trying to intimidate Alison) any more serious than the usual pressuring of hamsters to vote
"with the house"/with the majority? That happens every week, doesn't it?

R151996

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 10:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This time was a little more blunt than usual, with Jee saying 'I'm not threatening you' several times when of course he was threatening Ali.

Erika and Ali had a conversation in the hottub discussing strategy and talking about the secret alliance they have had for who knows how long. They both talked about wanting Jun out before the finals.

Cameltoes

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 10:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, Ali tells Jun the same thing about getting Erika out before the finals. I think she is being honest with Jun and just keeping in good with Erika in case Erika wins that final HOH.

Earthmother

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 10:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ali is not being honest with Erika because she knows she can't beat her, but she might be able to beat Jun. Erika is smart to want to go to the finals with Ali, it makes her a shoe in for the win. Remember Lisa took Dani for the same reason.

Seamonkey

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 10:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If they only knew something Erika said to Jack awhile back, she'd have a bigger target on her back.. she told Jack one day that if it came down to the end, she would give her vote to the one who put her out, figuring they played the best game against her. But of course she wisely didn't share that info with anyone but Jack :)

Gina8642

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 10:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, Ali and Erika said it, but does anyone believe Ali when she tells her she want to take her to final two?

Ali has a much better chance against Jun.

Ali v Erika
For Erika - Definates Dana, Jack, Jun, Problies: Robert, Jee, Nathan (Ali may not realize this one), Weak Possibilities: Justin
For Ali - Definates: None Problies: Justin Weak Possibilities: Robert, Jee, Nathan

Ali v. Jun
For Jun - Definates: Dana, Jack. Problies: Robert
For Ali - Definates: None Problies: Justin
Completely torn - Erika, Nathan, Jee,

So, I think Ali is just blowing smoke to Erika right now. Ali doesn't want Erika in the final two.

Tishala

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 10:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL. So now it is MORE of a threat to say "i'm not threatening you" than it is to threaten someone directly? OK....I understand now. It's another case of justifying the actions of whomever we like. Again.

Cangaroo

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 10:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well yeah! Isn't that what they call "putting a spin on it"? Make something seem what it is not or make it seem more (or less) than what it is?
They're all trying to win now and seems they will do whatever to obtain that win. People tend to do that when they are rooting for a team or person too.

Wendo

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 02:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, I listened to the conversation and it did come off as rather threatening in the framework of the game. They told her they would do all they could do get her evicted the next week, though they made a point of saying they weren't threatening her. While it wasn't a threat in the dictionary sense, it was within the confines of this game. The HG's have nothing to compare their lives to right now; nothing to put such comments in perspective. I think she really felt threatened with in the game setting.

Spwisc

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 05:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
.... and if the same kind of 'threat' was said to Robert or Jee, of course you all would be saying it wasn't a threat at all, then it would be considered 'all part of the game'.

I'm going back to lurking status... and just reading the live feeds. Thank you to the people that do those!

To the rest of you, let's hope for something unexpected.. maybe Jun puts up Robert and Erika.. Ali doesn't use the veto and Erika leaves next Wednesday!!!

Ok ok, wishful thinking!

Crossfire

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 05:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What? You don't like chatting with us? Hang around for a while.

Marymary

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 05:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope she means it!!!

Crossfire

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 05:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You have to be kidding. I am kind of embarrassed you said that following my post.

Lostintheglades

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 05:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What Marymary said!!

Ladytex

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 06:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Why are we dogging out Erika for telling Jack something that Ali told her? Ali told Erika that she was threatened, and Erika told Jack. So this makes Erika a bad person how? Like was posted above, it depends on who you're hating on, I guess.

Katlady53

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 07:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Erika's the bomb. Who cares if she told Jack about Jee's threat? <<<shrug>>>

Csnog

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 08:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Erica knows that Jack will take that information back to the Jury house. She wants the jury to know it.

Wendo

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 01:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Erika's been playing a good game. Too good I'm afraid. Because she hasn't angered any HG's as Jun or Ali, no one would want to bring her to the final two. While there's a chance she may not be evicted tomorrow, it doesn't look good for her.

Additionally, did not like her comment about the blimp crashing and Ali and Jun dying in it. Joke or not, it was tasteless. Lost a few points with me for this one.

Wed. live show should be interesting.

Cliotheleo

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 09:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, as much as I like Erika, I think we have to give her equal time in the "didn't pay much attention in school" debate that we are always including Alison in. Anyone who knows anything about the Hindenburg crash would never make a joke like that. It's kinda like making a joke about someone going on a cruise and wishing that their boat hits an iceberg.

http://www.vidicom-tv.com/tohiburg.htm

However I will add that, aside from the Jee "fresh off the boat" comment, it's only the second "bad" thing I've heard Erika say/do all season.

Cliotheleo

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 09:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
......... well, I mean BESIDES wearing those pink boots with her short skirts. :)

Prisonerno6

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 09:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"Anyone who knows anything about the Hindenburg crash would never make a joke like that."

That's absurd. I know a fair amount about the Hindenburg crash (for example, I know it crashed because it was filled with hydrogen, which is no longer used -- and it was a dirigible, not a blimp), and I would make that joke. I'd also joke about someone's cruise ship hitting an iceberg if they were as annoyingly self-centered as Ali seems to be. It's called gallows humor, and lots of people find it amusing.

Watching2

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 09:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Clio! Maybe you could invite her over for a BBQ and tell her to PLEASE WEAR her pink boots. Then you can turn it into a scarificing ceremony and make her pitch them in. hehehehe

Cliotheleo

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 09:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hang on Prisoner, I'm the only one allowed to use the word "absurd" around here. :)

I don't like gallows humor. Not funny at all to me. I'm ok with lying and cheating, ho-ing yourself and manipulating folks in order to win, but to actually joke thta someone would die? Nah, can't get with that.

Give Erika a penalty nomination!!!! (ha ha, kidding, I've been trying to find an excuse to use that line!)

Prisonerno6

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 09:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Got no problem with someone not liking gallows humor. Just doesn't mean that someone who does is ignorant of of historical fact...

Cliotheleo

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 09:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL! Watching, I don't mind the pink boots in and of themselves, just don't like them with short skirts. It's too much. Now the pink boots with the pink Juicy suit, THAT would be cute! ......... and the long-gone pink hat! She'd be the stuff!

Prisoner, I'll bet you a whole $ that Erika doesn't know about the Hindenberg crash. (and with the possible exception of Jun, neither does anyone else in the house.)

Denecee

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 09:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I didn't take the comment serious but she made herself look immature, IMO. Everybody knows that you don't make comments like that because if it actually happened then how would you feel? Anyway, I cringed when she said it. I don't like to cringe.

Gina8642

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 10:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think you have it pegged pretty well Denecee. Definately cringe worthy - worse than that? I don't think so.

Beruthiel

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 12:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I enjoy most kinds of humour, and on the day of the blimp comp, my first thought was, remember the Hindenberg!
Naturally I didn't post it because I knew it would be found offensive by some folks, but I myself might well have said exactly what Erika did, in jest.
I think Erika's sense of humour is quite dry and often missed altogether by her housemates.
Humour is also the way that human beings deal with the trials and tribulations of life, and as such, taboo subjects are often a source of humour, so no, I don't fault Erika for her comment. I'm just sorry that she has no one there who 'gets' her. I think Jun would, if they weren't in a dual to the death.

Prisonerno6

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 12:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"Humour is also the way that human beings deal with the trials and tribulations of life, and as such, taboo subjects are often a source of humour"

Very well put.

Wendo

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 12:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cringe worthy comment, that's how it felt to me too (and tasteless). I know what gallows humor is but like Clio, I don't find it funny either.

Beruthiel

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 12:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks, Prisoner. I guess we ghouls need to keep our tasteless jokes to ourselves!

Kittystj

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 01:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope this is the right place to post. I cannot find the link to the pictures of Josh Souza and Erika. Any help?