Archive through September 27, 2003
TV ClubHouse: Archive: Alison's words-From the Post Gazette online:
Archive through September 27, 2003
Charvie | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 08:02 am     Alison has no 'Big Brother' regrets Friday, September 26, 2003 By Rob Owen, Post-Gazette TV Editor Meadville native Alison Irwin spent 82 days in the "Big Brother 4" house, but in Wednesday's finale, her back-stabbing and manipulation cost her the $500,000 grand prize, which jury members awarded to 27-year-old Jun Song in a 6-1 vote. Several jury members said they chose between the lesser of two evils. Irwin, 22, will received $50,000 as the runner-up. In an interview yesterday, Irwin said she had no regrets about her behavior on the CBS show. She'd even do it all again. "I think most of the other house guests besides Jun and myself can't really separate the difference between the outside world and a game," Irwin said. "Because they lost a game, they are not necessarily going to trust a lot of other people and think Jun and myself are that devious outside the house. It was really just a game." In her bio for the show, Irwin said she planned to win by not lying, cheating or talking behind the backs of others. She said she meant that until she saw others behaving that way and had to change her strategy. Although he gave an ambiguous statement about the status of their relationship on Wednesday's show, Irwin said she and her boyfriend, Bloomsburg University football player Donny Patrick, are still together and she plans to spend the next couple of weeks with him. A December 2002 graduate of the University of Pittsburgh, Irwin said she worked as manager of Hollister at the Waterfront development in Homestead before appearing in "Big Brother 4." Her new career plans include applying to law school, which she said "Big Brother" helped prepare her for. "Basically, it gave me a lot of manipulation tactics, a little bit of lying involved, persuasiveness, all the things a good lawyer needs." Irwin outlasted her ex-boyfriend, Justin Giovinco of Pittsburgh, who was voted out last month. Wednesday's season finale showed Giovinco calling Irwin "a monster" while watching tapes of what she said about him during the run of the series. "That might have been a little harsh, but to some degree it was true," he said yesterday. Irwin said Giovinco contacted her Wednesday night and invited her to hang out with him and other contestants. Giovinco denied that. "The lies just keep coming out!" he said. "I called up there for her brother. I never invited her down to hang out with me." Giovinco, a 22-year-old native of suburban Philadelphia, graduated from the University of Pittsburgh in May. He was working as a corporate headhunter in Pittsburgh before appearing on "Big Brother" and he may return to that job. |
Ketchuplover | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 08:11 am     Alison a lawyer? That won't exactly enhance that professions' reputation. |
Chippy | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 08:14 am     Wow, that girl just never stops... |
Zachsmom | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 08:14 am     "Basically, it gave me a lot of manipulation tactics, a little bit of lying involved, persuasiveness, all the things a good lawyer needs." Every good lawyer I know DOESN'T resort to these tactics. I call lawyers who use these tactics "shysters". |
Spunky | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 08:15 am     So, this is why Justin looked of Italian heritage to me... Giovinco, that explains it. Ali will always feel she played a good game and in a way she did, only the others played worse. Jun got lucky Ali wasn't a real backstabber and kept her instead of Robert. Ali had all the power but in the end she did not abuse it. |
Crazydog | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 08:18 am     Well it also said that Justin has graduated from college. Hmmm... I remember the talk here that he was a student and had to finish his fifth year, or something like that. And then there was that talk of how Erika was parroting Jee's words re THOSE comments. Not sure what is true anymore. |
Cliotheleo | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 08:19 am     Well, there may have been discussion here about Justin STILL being in school, but everything official I've ever heard was that he had graduated and had a job. |
Monalisahi | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 08:27 am     In her bio for the show, Irwin said she planned to win by not lying, cheating or talking behind the backs of others. She said she meant that until she saw others behaving that way and had to change her strategy. LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...lol |
Cliotheleo | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 08:29 am     That's like the old paradox of someone telling you that they're lying to you. If they're lying to you, then isn't the fact that they are telling you they're lying to you a lie in and of itself? |
Marameko | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 09:18 am     Ahhhhhhh ............still glad she did win anymore than she did. |
Vealprince | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 10:40 am     Lawyers who lie go to jail. I can hardly wait. |
Spunky | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 12:09 pm     http://mortystv.com/big_brother.shtml that's where you find the Reality TV Forum interview with Ali. She talks very candidly about everything that went on in the house and her feelings about Jun post-show. Also a sugary radio clip with Jun. Check it out. |
Queenfish | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 07:26 pm     Thanks Spunky for that link. Wow, she just never ceases to amaze me either. She actually has no remorse for any actions she took in the house. A wise man once told me that the opposite of Responsibility is blame. Well, she sure isn't taking any responsibility for her own actions is she? She said she wouldn't read the internet sites and actually mentioned that she was very popular on the polls. Geez, I hope she grows up one day. |
Bomom | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 07:40 pm     Alison's going to be a lawyer? Can't wait for the disbarment hearing... |
Steveh | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 08:53 pm     My best pal all-time is a federal attorney in NJ. She's in her mid-30s, graduated Rutgers Law--summa cum laude--a few years ago. Rutgers is a solid second tier law school. My pal sez that during her stint there, Rutgers L was FILLED with "Alis", male and female and the statement Ali made about learning to lie, manipulate, etc. is a common concept re. lawyers and the practice of law shared by younger people attending law school these days (my friend has since worked w/ other attendees and recent grads from other eastern law schools). Not saying that all young law students, or even a majority are Ali-like, but a significant number are. Yes, my friend watched BB4. |
Murph | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 09:58 pm     Steveh, I just remembered that when Ali and Jun were discussing law schools in NYC Ali mentioned she would like to go to Rutgers. Maybe your pal can write a recommendation LOL |
Bohawkins | Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 09:05 am     In the practice of law there are those who have had the mistaken notion that being a good liar is a key to success. However, courtroom law is literally about "discovering" the truth. The most powerful pratictioners of the law are those who have learned not how to deceive, but how to find the truth. Your case stands the best chance when you have a champion of the truth on your side who will find and emphasize whatever elements of fact which can be brought into the light. An attorney is not a trier of law (that's the judge), but is known and defined as the "trier of fact." Facts are what is true. |
Charvie | Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 10:09 am     Isn't Rutgers in New Jeresy? I could have sworn that school was in New Jeresy. My Stepfather went to the undergrad and I could have sworn it was in New Jeresy. Or is there another Rutgers law school in NYC? |
Murph | Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 10:19 am     Charvie, it is Rutgers in NJ. Jun and Ali were discussing lots of law schools; I should have been clear that when they were discussing the schools in NYC that Ali then began talking about the schools she would like to attend. Sorry for the confusion. |
Charvie | Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 10:23 am     Thank you Murph for clarifying. |
Bohawkins | Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 10:31 am     Charvie... just so you don't have to be "swearing" about the location of a school that you are unsure of in the future... just go to Google and type in Rutgers University (or whatever you are needing to clarify). Instantly, you will have your answer. |
Buggles | Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 04:04 pm     "Basically, it gave me a lot of manipulation tactics, a little bit of lying involved, persuasiveness, all the things a good lawyer needs." Who here has said that 'gameplayer Ali' is completely disparate from Ali outside the house? I rest my case  |
Angelsluv | Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 04:35 pm     You'd think that those characteristics would make her a better used car salesman than a lawyer *LOL* On the mortystv.com url there's an article on Jun, now this is funny! "The mesh top was supposed to be part of my strategy," Jun says of the much-maligned ubiquitous article of clothing which covered many a skimpy bikini. "The mesh top was supposed to sexy, damnit. Apparently it did not win favor from most of the males, so it was burnt." |
Twiggyish | Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 04:55 pm     The whole interview shows her ignorance. First she claims the lying and deception were part of the game. Then says she will use those tactics as a lawyer. When does the game end for her? She's obviously not that smart! |
Seamonkey | Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 05:28 pm     I think Ali's been playing that game for years.. figure skating competitions, pageants, dance team... |
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