Nathan's Debate Thread
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These threads are to debate your opinions pro and con of the character of the Houseguests. Keep in mind that we are discussing the one named characters being portrayed in an artificial environment, keep the real life person out of it, we don’t truly know the real people. If you choose to defend a favorite houseguest in one of these threads don’t let yourself get emotionally hammered. Every houseguest has at least one defender who can emotionally detach themselves, if you can’t do that, stay out of these threads. No bashing of fellow posters will be tolerated. Language standards will be enforced. These are not complete free-fire zones and vile posts will be moderated.
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Gabbyone | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 08:46 pm     I'm also a Nate fan and I hate to see him go. Ali really played him! *sigh* I can't wait to see her walk out that door!!! |
Costacat | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 09:08 pm     I'm not a Nate fan. I think he is really flabbergasted to realize that not everyone is enamored of him. Someone once said they thought he had everything in life handed to him. I don't know if that's exactly true, but he does have that air about him. I can see how some people may think he's a real pretty boy, but that look doesn't do make the hairs on my arms stand up, if y'know what I mean. I will be glad to see him go. He's been outplayed, by pretty much everyone! |
Whit4you | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 09:15 pm     Well I hope once he gets out he'll learn some things about accepting others and so on... he'd be a great guy if it weren't for his ignorance on those various parts of life. I wish him all the best in the future - he could have gone far - and probably won this game if it werne't for the X factor this year. |
Sillyjangles | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 05:36 pm     I don't like him, I can't believe the ingnorant things that come out of his mouth! I don't think he has any idea how to have an intelligent conversation. I have really tried to have an "open mind", he is young, has not been exposed to much..etc, BUT, I think his ignorance & arrogance are just a part of his character(or "lack" of it. |
Needavacation | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 05:59 pm     Silly, I guess I am not aware of the comments you are referring to... I just pop in and out of here, and read and watch what I can. If the comments your referring to are not politically correct, perhaps they are in line with his belief system. He seems to be seeking knowledge, from the bible reading. I heard on last nights show I think it was Justin, he said, the value system in here is differant, it is a game. I have not heard him make any rude or ignorant comments. |
Maris | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 08:59 pm     He said he would never let his daughter date a black man and if his son were gay he would kick his son out of his house. |
Spunky | Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 10:34 am     The only guy who has 'balls' in the house is NATE!!!!! Way to go Nate!!!!! Before you leave, don't forget to tell them the jee/jun alliance is old news and that jun is using jee and will chew him and spit him out... If you have to leave might as well spill your guts out to them...  |
R151996 | Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 12:45 pm     Nate did not play intelligently at all after he vetoed Ali. His most stupid move was mentioned by Justin last night--trying to work a deal with the Jee3 in the hottub last week in a way that made Nate himself appear to be more of a threat. Nate's biggest downfall is that he reacts first and thinks afterward. In this game players have to calculate every major move beforehand. IMO Nate was probably the third player most unprepared to "play the game" following Michelle and Amanda. |
Sillyjangles | Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 03:26 pm     I read a quote today..Going to church & reading the bible does not make you a Christiam, just as standing in a garage a reading a manual does not make you a car. I don't know if you all will see the truth in it as I do but, I have some bible thumping relatives who go to church & they are simply "hypocrites"! I see alot of people using religion as a shield...If Nathan is "really" reading the bible, he is not absorbing the meaning. He is a very narrow minded person with quite a few judgemental comments. If his comments reflect his belief system..then he is (in my opinion) not a very nice person. Mostly, I don't see any comparison to Jason, Jason was someone who I had quite a bit of respect for..I found he truly did portray himself in the house as a Christian. I find Nate is more in the lines of Danielle(but, she was quite a bit smarter)...maybe they go to the same church! |
Wendo | Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 04:05 pm     Nathan is really bugging me. Yes, he was "betrayed" by Ali (hello, it's the game), but he's just whining and whining about BEING betrayed. Ok Nathan, we get it. How about taking responsibility and admiting that you played this game very poorly. Ali just took advantage of that. You allowed her to sweet talk you and manipulate you. Anyway, it just bugs me. He got played, deal with it. LOL! |
Bogiesgal | Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 04:45 pm     I am a little (Lot? 55) older than most of you and probably view things through a different pair of eyes but I actually see Nate a lot differently. He seems to me to be quite naive. He honestly thought the game would be a bunch of pals having a good ol' time, with one of them ending up the winner. He seems truly dumbfounded that Ali would betray him. I think he is really hurt by that. As far as womanizing, he doesn't seem to be making overt sexual "moves" on the girls - even in the beginning when each and every girl (except Erica) was trying to hook up with him. (Dave & Justin did more of that - mostly for strategic purposes). I agree that he seems to be very narrow minded but his opinions are on based on his religion and the (sheltered?) "world" he was brought up in. Bottom line, I think Nate came into a game that was way over his head and that he wasn't conniving enough to keep up with. I haven't heard him say ONE thing to indicate he is in love with himself and I suspect most of the women in the house who hate him are the ones who feel rejected by him. Give him a few years to grow up in the "real" world and he will probably be alright. |
Cliotheleo | Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 11:26 pm     Bogies, I kind of agree with you. I get the impression that Nate was raised to believe that the world revolves around him and all of the rest of his white, male, straight counterparts. (And that's pretty much true.) The world is his oyster and he knows it. That's how he approaches things. Yep, that's my little headcheese. |
Cliotheleo | Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 11:29 pm     ........ and lest there be any confusion, I'm not saying I AGREE with how Nate was brought up, far from it, but that's the unfortunate reality of things. |
Spunky | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 12:11 pm     Nate is pathetic! Sucking up to Jun, the one and only who really wants him out. Doesn't this dude figure out by now she ruled the stooges? Why isn't Ali have merci on him and tell him, you're out unanimously because Jun wanted it. Still, he should know better, he said he reads people well... not so... |
Denecee | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 02:26 pm     Nate looked very sexy last night, too bad he's gone. I think that Nate has a crush on Ali. He's thinking "Why isn't this girl doing want I want? All the other girls in my life would fall all over themselves to make me happy. I've got to make her want me if just to say so long sucker!" |
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