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TV ClubHouse: Archive: All Things Technical for BB 2003 (computer stuff): Accessing the 10 streams directly thru RealOne, BBLive, etc.: Archive through July 22, 2003

Friendofdot

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 10:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jeffo4him, GREAT suggestion. It worked for me, too. Because I have been communicating with one of the developers, I just emailed him your results and hope this helps. Sounds like WinXP is causing the error...I guess...

Thanks for letting us know :-)

Draheid

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 10:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Friendofdot: FYI, I have Win/XP Home with SP-1. I downloaded and saved BBLive.exe to my media drive (M: on my computer) and was able to run it fine from there. Then I copied it to my desktop and it runs fine from there also. Only thing that happened that I found interesting was that I had added additional links to the setup for the direct feeds while it was on my hard drive and when I ran it from the desktop, it created a new .ini with only the default feeds. I copied the newer .ini from the hard drive to the desktop and it worked fine.

Hope that helps.

Edit to add: Note, I have VB6 pro installed on this computer also, if that makes any difference. I'm not sure if it would but thought I should mention it since this uses the runtimes for VB6.

Friendofdot

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 11:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Draheid, I just downloaded BBLive to my desktop and it works perfectly. Amazing after all these days of trying to figure this out. I wrote the guy at BBLive and suggested he put your solution on his web site for others that were having the same problem that I had.

Thanks BUNCHES for posting the solution.

Daveyp

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 01:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey ya'll
I just got Big Bro Live and i am having a problem. I don't have Aol but when i open up Big Bro Live and choose a feed i get a message that says what you should do if you have Aol. Soo, i don't know what i should do. I was wondering if it had anything to do with the software or somthing. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks! Davey~

Draheid

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 01:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Daveyp: I'm not familiar with BBLive in particular, but what message is it giving you exactly? I can tell you that it appears to require you have a working copy of RealONE installed and probably need to have logged into the feeds through that first, with cookies enabled, in order for BBLive to work, if that's any help.

Hope this helps.

Daveyp

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 02:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Draheid- i have RealONE build 6.0.10.505, its the free one,i d/l it about a year ago. The message it gives me is a white screen that says To View Content Using AOL: 1. Open Internet Explorer 2.Copy and paste url into location field 3. Click on media link. I don't have AOL so i thought that it would probably work for me. It's not a message that pops up. It's on the player thing. i really don't wanna sound stupid but how do u check if your cookies r enabled? thnks for your help Draheid n maybe with this info we can solve this problem. Davey~

Draheid

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 02:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Daveyp: Are you able to view the feeds using your RealONE player? If so, do you have to log in each time you open the feeds?? If you're able to view the feeds without logging in each time, then your 'cookies' are likely enabled and you should be able to use BBLive. I'm guessing this isn't the case since BBLive is giving you a problem. I hate to do this but I must refer you to the BBlive site for more help since I no longer have the older RealONE player and am not familiar enough with BBLive to offer much help. BigBroLive.com will hopefully have a way for you to contact them directly if what I've offered doesn't work.

Hope you can get it going soon.

Daveyp

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 02:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ok,thanks for your help Draheid! Davey~

Jeffo4him

Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 12:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have found another problem with BBLive and XP Pro, I have had no less than three system lockups (had to power down) when BLive was running, all were in the graphics subsystem. Again, if anyone could pass this info on to the developers I'd appreciate it. But if you are running XP, be careful and save your work often - I had the joy of retyping a 10 page report yesterday :-(

Ddt2003

Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 10:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Does anybody have the rtsp:// links for the 35K streams? Replacing cam1_80.rm with cam1_35.rm doesn't work, for example. I need a slower stream so I can download USENET articles at the same time.

If not, I'll just use the http:// links and use the reloader.

Draheid

Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 11:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ddt2003: Look in the RealONE Player Issues thread. They are posted on the very top of the thread. Select the camera and connection speed for the 'Direct' feeds.

Hope this helps.

Ddt2003

Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 11:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for your input, but what I'm looking for are links that probably haven't been published at this site.

I normally use the so-called "Direct Dialup" links, which are 80K feeds. (Dialup modems can't go that fast in any event, since they're maxed at about 52K). I have 256K cable modem service which can't utilize the 225K streams because of too much internet congestion and high ping times because I'm in Panama.

What I'm looking for are Direct links for slower than 80K. When I use

http://start.real.com/rd?pid=bb4&url=bb4_1.smil&rpcontexturl=_keep

and have my connection speed in RealOne Player set to 64K maximum, the stream comes in at 35K, and I'm able to open one NNTP server as well. The problem with the http link is that it times out every thirty minutes. Direct links don't timeout.

Ryn

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 10:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Try these:

rtsp://start.real.com:554/rd?pid=bb4_live&url=cam1_80.rm

rtsp://start.real.com:554/rd?pid=bb4_live&url=cam2_80.rm

rtsp://start.real.com:554/rd?pid=bb4_live&url=cam3_80.rm

rtsp://start.real.com:554/rd?pid=bb4_live&url=cam4_80.rm

rtsp://start.real.com:554/rd?pid=bb4_live&url=quad_80.rm

Ryn

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 10:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am on a T-1 and these only connect at 34kbps

Ryn

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 10:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
1

here is a screen cap - showing the rate from the cam1 link above.

Ddt2003

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 12:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ryn:

I'm experiencing this downshift in bandwidth also. I just typed an email to Real Networks about this, as I observed in the "RealOne Player Issues" thread last night. When using the RTSP links from above, I too am downshifted to 35 kbps, except QuadCam, which comes in at 80 kbps. Real Player also uses 35 when I use the Framed Links from the above mentioned thread. I have a 256 kbps cable modem connection, and at times I'm able to receive their 225 streams without downshifting.

As for the links you provided, I already utilize them. I found a solution for simultanious downloading the other day, after I posted my other post, above.

Ddt2003

Friday, July 18, 2003 - 02:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ryn:

I see what you're talking about now. Those RTSP direct links were doing as they should be the other day, i.e., connecting to 80K streams, as each URL implies. Yesterday and today, all but the Quadcam link downshifts to 35K. They're NOT supposed to do that. It is a problem with Real Networks itself,and unrelated to the CBS feed to Real Networks problem that occured yesterday.

If you set the RealOne Player bandwidth to 128K, and use a "Framed Link", you'll see that also downshifts to 35K. As I said, it's supposed to be 80K.

Janekat

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 12:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm ready to give up. I have windows xp home and have some major security issues. It looks as if I will need to uninstall my ie6 program and then reinstall it (or I'm thinking 5.5 since ie6 has a lot of problems).

I may also just upgrade to xp professional. I'm hoping that may just fix everything.

I am now using a netscape browser for many things because I can't get into many sites, can't send attachments, etc. I could maybe get in through netscape but I'm not sure how to re-set my proxy or preferences.

Any suggestions?

Draheid

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 01:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Janekat: It is unclear from your post what kind of problems you're experiencing. I also have Win/XP Home, IE6, Netscape 7 (Prefered), and Netscape 4.79 along with RealONE. All working very nicely. I have had very little trouble with any of these and the rare problem with Real has most likely been attributable to network congestion or problems at Real.

What you seem to be describing is problems with a proxy server. I'm not sure why you are using that but I'm fairly sure it can be configured to allow you the access to anything on the net.

Could you explain exactly what you are experiencing? What security issues are you referring to?? Is it your provider that is setup with the proxy server and, if so, have they not been able to assist you in resolving your situation???

I hope I can help.

Janekat

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 03:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It won't even let me sign in. I've had a ton of problems with anything that requires a password. I beleive that it is something to do with active x because I usually get this message: "Your current security settings prohibit running ActiveX controls on this page. as a result the page may not display correctly"

I've reset the security settings and have tried just about everything.

Everytime I try to log in it takes me to a page that says "the page cannot be displayed. The site you requested is unavailable."

No matter what address I put in the address bar - it goes to this link/page: file://C:\Program%20Files\Real\RealOne%20Player\DataCache\GetMedia\404.html

Janekat

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 03:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whoops - it also takes me to this link:
res://C:\WINDOWS\System32\shdoclc.dll/dnserror.htm

Janekat

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 03:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
NOW it's sayign something about no cookies:

res://C:\WINDOWS\System32\shdoclc.dll/navcancl.htm# https://account.real.com/login/?pid=bb4&url=bb4_2.smil&case=no_cookie&pcode=rn&rsrc=default&cpath=CNT

I of course, have my cookies enabled, etc., etc.

Draheid

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 04:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Janekat, see if this link will work for you: Click here to Login to Real

Janekat

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 04:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It didn't work. I went to the page cannot be displayed. It again says something about no cookies: https://account.real.com/login/?pid=bb4_live&url=cam1_225.rm&case=no_cookie&pcode=rn&rsrc=default&cpath=CNT

I'ts taking me through internet explorer instead of netscape even though I have changed my default browser to netscape. If I could just get it to go through netscaoe I think I'd be ok.

Draheid

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 04:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Janekat, have you tried checking to see if Real is able to use any other content? Is it even working for 'free' video clips online?? You might also try copying this link into the browser built into RealONE and logging in through there as well.
Or you could copy this text link and paste it into Netscape and see if that helps.

https://account.real.com/login/?pid=bb4_live&url=cam1_225.rm&case=no_cookie&pcode=rn&rsrc=default&cpath=CNT

Hmmm, edit to add: interesting, this is the same link as you posted. lol Sorry.