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Archive through August 15, 2003
Seamonkey | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 09:17 pm     I don't see Erika as nice at all.. she's the oldest of the women, touts herself as so much more mature, along with Jack, but she's pretty quick to throw around the racist remarks and I've heard her repeat "man troll" more than ANYONE in the house, along with the word "evil" about people who are simply doing the same thing she is, competing for a prize. Jun is a "snake"and other low words for doing, perhaps more successfully, what Erika and Jack think they are doing. The big=sister act with Ali may or may not be true but she and Jack discussed their closeness as strategic, just as Jack claims for his talks with Nate, Jee and Robert. And the little talk they had the other day about the high value to BB of having Erika wear her polka-dot bikini was totally nauseating. Sounds like an ego-enhancement came along with the implants maybe. Comparisons to the others not really relevant. I don't find her to be particularly attractive, but that's such a subjective, personal thing anyway. |
Pengoh | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 09:20 pm     I am not racist, nor do I condone racism, but I have a question; does being racist make someone a bad person? |
Maris | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 09:22 pm     Yes |
Seamonkey | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 09:25 pm     I can't think of anything good about racism. |
Misslibra | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 09:34 pm     Well this is coming from Jun and I know from watching Jun how she can twist the truth when she wants to stir things up. I didn't see it or hear it so we can only go by what Jun said. Erika was asked by one of the HG's they could not picture her with Robert, I think it was Ali talking to her one day and asked Erika how did her and Robert hook up. Erika said she likes to go out dancing and Robert was a great dancer. I think she said they met at a club. Any way you know when you first meet a guy how charming they can be until you get to know them. Erika got to know him and then she dumped him. She told Ali their relationship mostly consisted of having someone to go out with. He was fun and could dance and she like that, as she got to know him things went down hill from there and she got out of the relationship. This is what I remember her telling Ali on live feeds one day. I have dated Men who at first seem like perfect gentlemen until I got to know them. And I have dated a few Men who I look back on today and ask myself what was I thinking. Robert was a "what was I thinking" I'm sure to Erika now, even the DR room asked her how did she ever go out with Robert, she jokingly told them I must of been on crack at the time. LOL Does that make her nasty cause she dated a nasty little man ? Of course not, come on now let's get real here. |
Jpgramma | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 09:37 pm     Maris, I've heard Erika answer that question (why she went out with Robert) several times with "I was on crack". I don't have the livefeeds, so I haven't actually heard her say this, but have read it , as I said, several times in livefeeds. I always assumed it was said very tongue in cheek ( like cus I was nuts, or I was out of my mind etc) , but the conversation she had with Ally last night (?) when they were doing their hour long walk in the BY, she said it again, but this time I got the impression she was telling the truth, not offering a glib response. Perhaps someone who actually saw and heard this exchange on the livefeeds could clarify. I can believe it. Being out there, in that culture, coke is not scorned by the 'hip' masses (those 'in the business'), but almost seen as a sign of success my some. Certainly a sign of one's hipness. Crack of course, is a much nastier addiction. It would explain a lot of things about Erika's personality to me. It would also explain a lot of those comments Robt loves to make about how he could tell them so many things about Erika, they'd be so surprised. yada yada yada If indeed Erika had , at one time, a crack addiction, not only would that explain her being with Robt (or perhaps anyone who could help her feed her habit), but it helps explain the quiet wisdom, compassion and yes, tolerance that i see in her, almost a sense of humility. Certainly I sense someone who has had much more experience with life than most of the others in the house. huh? you say? Well, I'm talking about someone who USED TO BE on crack , past tense, and who managed to get off the stuff and start a new life for herself. If this is true, she is to be every bit as much commended for overcoming something like that as Robt. is on overcoming his problem with alcohol. |
Misslibra | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 09:41 pm     The darker side is evil, Jun is a snake in the grass, and Erika is more mature is all ways then the other women in the house. Dana was a ... well saying MT was being nice. Scott gave Dana the man troll nick and it stuck, so sue him. I mean what are you going to do. Dana was pissing off a lot of people in the house, and got call worst things then MT. |
Gina8642 | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 09:45 pm     WOULD YOU GUYS STOP ALL THIS!!!! Erika's 'crack' response was flip. Every little flip response by these HGs is taken WAY TOO SERIOUSLY!!!! |
Wendo | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 09:49 pm     Jpgramma, I was watching while Erika and Ali walked and talked. I did not get the feeling that she was stating she had a past crack addiction. To me, she was joking, tounge in cheek as you wrote. |
Misslibra | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 09:50 pm     I agree it was a tongue in cheek remark, not to be taken seriously. |
Jpgramma | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 09:55 pm     Thank you Wendo and MissLibra. As I said, that needed to be clarified by someone who actually headr it. I appreciate that you did and must say, I'm somewhat releived. |
Jadar | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 09:59 pm     Why did Erika go out with Robert? Obviously because she has bad taste. |
Misslibra | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 10:05 pm     Yes sometimes we make bad choices. If you have never made a bad choice in your life keep on living I promise you it could happen to you. |
Seamonkey | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 10:23 pm     Good grief! I'm certainly not an Erika fan but when I heard her say "I must have been on crack" it was clear to me that she was just kidding. I'd be very surprised if she'd ever been an addict. I don't see any clear division of good and evil and hardly think a surgically enhanced 33 year old bartender who repeatedly tries out for "reality shows" is exactly all that mature. Older, yes. |
Misslibra | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 10:28 pm     Hmmmm... so if I was a bartender and got my boobs done and tried out for reality TV shows that would make me immature ? Huh ? LOL |
Costacat | Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 06:48 am     There is NOTHING WRONG with a grown woman wearing pink, for pete's sake. Sheesh, I'm freakin' 46 years young and right now I'm wearing a pink t-shirt. Last night I went to a Padres ball game and I wore jeans with a pink tank and pink sweater. By no stretch of the imagination am I a "Barbie doll." I've heard Erika say why she was with Robert. Both seriously (he was a good dancer) and jokingly (I was on crack). It was very obvious that the latter was JOKE! It's like when I call myself an idiot. I'm not an idiot (I'm very savvy and very intelligen). IT'S A FREAKIN' JOKE! And I still want to know why her decision to have cosmetic surgery is anyone's business. It's a personal decision. I'm sorry, but I get so darned tired of people automatically putting other people down for having elective surgery. If you don't like it, YOU don't have to have it done. Period. But don't rag on people all the time because YOU don't like it. <MK> Maybe it's because I grew up in California, but most of us out here really don't care -- one way or another -- what someone has done to their body. IF THAT PERSON IS HAPPY, that's all that matters. 'Nuff said. |
Lakegal | Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 11:11 am     If Erika wants to wear pink I don't care. Everyone has the colours they prefer. But I wish she had another bikini to wear too. I am so sick of that polka dot one. I'd say the same if one of the other females was wearing the same one all the time. I am really sick of the little pink hat and bikini. Hopefully outside the house she does wear other colours and bikinis. I just don't find her that attractive. I know my hubby keeps saying she looks too hard. She seems to have hard and cold features. Like she's had a rough life. And as for the fact she dated Robert. Well we've all got a few of those "what were we thinking" people in our past. So I don't hold that against her. Mostly I just find her kind of boring as a HG. So I wouldn't care if she left. I probably wouldn't notice she was gone. |
Jpgramma | Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 11:23 am     Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Such a truism, that. IMO, of all the female HGs that were cast this season, Erika is the only one who is cover girl or Hollywood leading-lady material. Her bone structure, her smile, her hair, her long legs... I have her in the same category, looks-wise, as Cindy Crawford and Sophia Loren. She exudes sophistication and composure. What she wears is of little import to me. I hope she dresses to make herslf happy. I find her sense of self-respect and the modesty she displays in that place refreshing. The lady has class. She's a class act. I can't say that about any of the other HGs, male OR female, except for Jack. Jack is also a class act. Thank goodness they have each other for reality checks. A sane, mature person could easily go nuts locked in that frat house! |
Whit4you | Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 11:26 am     Lake - well I think she's pretty but she does have a unique look about her, I could certainly picture her as a biker 'chick' - with tats and the harley gear etc. But it is odd, sometimes I look at her and think she's a really attractive gal, and then other times I think she looks like she doesn't have much personality (strange I know but that's how it appears to me) I think she needs to get off her sinking ship and work out a new strategy, but then after the action last night her and Jack may be able to just sit back and let the others continue to eliminate each other since the J3+2 alliance was shattered last night lol. |
Gina8642 | Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 11:52 am     I don't care if pink is her favorite color. She wears toooooo much pink, and I'm sick of it. She has at least three bikinis. But she always wears the poka dot thing during the day. I'm also sick of it. Really, she can wear anything she wants, but I'm also allowed to get sick of it. Personally I think she is very photogenic. She has great bone structure in her face. Maybe it can come off as harsh or whatever in every day life, but it has also enabled her to make money off of modeling, which is something ordinary people (including myself) could never do. I find it funny when anyone says any of these folks are ugly, I think that sorta standard is WAY too high. |
Cliotheleo | Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 11:36 pm     No such thing as "too much pink" nope, sorry, not possible. |
Tobor7 | Monday, August 11, 2003 - 03:44 am     ...And those pink MB booties and that pooph pink hat!? Sick of it. Do not like her outfits. |
Gina8642 | Monday, August 11, 2003 - 09:07 pm     Erika is wearing a new pair of shorts I've not seen before. GUESS WHAT? They are PINK!!!!! URGH.......... |
Spwisc | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 06:51 am     Did you see her suitcase Tuesday night?! P I N K overkill. It is so 80's, along with her whole look. They show whomever wins HOH more than normal during their week in the HOH room and I'm just not looking forward to her week. She cut everyone else down while they were HOH... wonder how she'll play so much better than the rest The only way she could win the 500K is if she's up against Ali in the end. |
Spunky | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 03:50 pm     Will she resist the temptation to put Jun up if Veto used? I hope she sees through all the attempts by Robert and Ali to save the stooges with the excuse that they want Jun gone. Well, if it has to come to a tiebreaker between Jun and Justin, it will be a tough one even for me... since I like Justin's playing better than Jun's. |
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