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Earthmother

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 04:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd love to know what Dana said to Ali...She said "It's nice to know Dana still hates me."

Bomom

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 01:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Quote from late Saturday night:

A: if i win this money do you think its wrong if i ask my dad for money

J: for what

A: he gives me 20 dollars sometimes

Unbelievable...especially after the crocodile tears about how her father doesn't make much money...

Notorioussun

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 02:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Quote from Saturday night/Sunday morn
Jun: "I think after we grill our steaks tomorrow, we should burn Erika's Joey(pinata) and smash Robert's gnome to the ground".

Caycaye

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 03:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Monalisahi and BoMom...I AGREE with you BOTH 100%. Ali herself professes her UNDYING hatred of everyone...for no reason usually....and the fact that she is so unGodly greedy as to even be THINKING to ask her daddy for money is ATROCIOUS to me....and as for someone's statement that Ali "just doesn't care about speaking to any of the HG again because she has her own life"...I disagree...it is totally obvious she has no real life outside...she has said so much herself...

Volgirl

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 05:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
While watching some of the Miss America pageant last nite, I kept thinking if any of those ladies acted like Alison in real life. Ali has made a mockery of the pageant arena. I see why Justin ran from her~I find her repulsive.
I can't even imagine what her pageant supporters think. I would love to know.

Cassie

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 08:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I just can't get my head around Ali being in a "beauty" pageant. She's far from "beautiful"! Her facial features are not even pretty, and her body type is "thick" and given to overweight if she ever quits her athletics. As for her personality being beautiful...enough said!! She must have been in very small-town, local pageants. Anyone know?

Eliz87

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 08:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cassie, check out her pics on http://www.alisonirwin.net. She cleans up well.

Cassie

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 08:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Eliz, thanks, but there's nothing but "fan" letters on that site, LOL. (Lordy, people seem to despise this girl, don't they?) Is there a site where I can see her BP pics?

Eliz87

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 08:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry, Cassie...wrong site. Look here instead:

http://www.alisonirwinonline.com/Images/Gallery_6/index.html

Cassie

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 09:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks, Eliz. I checked it out.

Chippy

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 01:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've really tried to find a reason not to dislike this houseguest. She hasn't given me any. In fact, quite the opposite. And, about her beauty pageant wins... well, I guess I'll never figure that one out. Were there other contestants? LOL.

Juiceman

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 01:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Look! Its NOT bashing to ask a legitimate question about Alison.
YEs.. it is ABOUT something negative Alison did - but its not gratuitous bashing is it?

My understanding is that the courts (and common sense i hope) make all the difference between 'insults and name-calling' Vs actually accusing someone of a crime.

Calling Jack a 'jerk' or 'creepy' is one thing.
Suggesting that Jack had criminal intent to violate laws - THAT is DIFFERENT.

I havent read every comments Jun and ALison made about Jack being a pervert but if any 'go over that line' and falsely accuse him of a sex crime - THEN we have a whole different ballgame.

If I was Jack Id threaten a lawsuit unless they publically correct and admitted that Jack did not violate them in any way.

Jbfrommi

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 03:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree, Juiceman, he should threaten to sue!

Avrey258

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 03:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
BTW, what happened to the previous 900+ posts in this thread? I didn't see them in the archives.

Isn't it funny that even though Jun and Ali are down to the last and final days they continue to make fun of all the other houseguests? Ali even said she would hate to be Cuban. Small, sad mind.

Justice = Ali and Jun finding out how most people really feel about their behavior.

Jbfrommi

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 04:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here they are, Avery258
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Muttley

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 04:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What is the deal with all the talk of lawsuits being bandied about here? Earlier, someone was encouraging a lawsuit on the behalf of Elena to compensate for the "injuries" she suffered (I have not seen any injuries, and one would hope her parents are smart enough to monitor her TV and internet use to minimize anything unpleasant she might see-- either from her father's behavior, or others in relation to him.)

Now, Jack should sue because the girls called him a pervert? So what? Should Dana sue because Jack said she was ugly? Should Michelle sue because they all said she was stupid? Should Robert sue Erika for calling his work? Should Nate sue Jee for attacking his manhood over and over again? C'mon. This gets ridiculous.

It's a gameshow. Played by famewhores. Under pressure. People say things. Folks right here seem to have plenty of nasty things to say-- no threats to sue.

Gina8642

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 05:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There will be no lawsuits. They've all signed waivers and all the family and friends referred to by name have also signed waivers.

Coffee

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 07:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am not sure what should happen. While Robert was still in the house Ali mentioned killing him. Things about Elena - I'm sure no one here would know if she is having problems with being called this by adults or if she will once she hears. Whether her parents keep the internet away or not does not safeguard her from finding out. This year has totally gone too far. There is a different between trash talking and accusing. Ali and Jun are have been accusing over and above the worst trash talks.

Gina8642

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 07:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Coffee - I could find posts from last year that are identical to your sentiments. This happens every year - total outrage and indignation. It's nothing new under the sun. I know it can feel that way, but honestly - this is no different. Save the anger and upset for real problems in the world. Need for world peace, solveing world hunger, etc... Breath deep..., count to ten...

Coffee

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 07:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't remember any other hg calling a little child a b---h or saying those type of things about a child. This is the first year that I have been really upset with BB. The other years were just the game plays and that type of trash talk, not like this. I think people should be more concerned about children. Let's think what we would do if that were our child.

Wendo

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 07:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
IT'S ALL ABOUT THE CHILDREN! WE MUST PROTECT THE CHILDREN!!!!!!!!!

THEY MUST NOT SUCCUMB TO THE THIS SUMMER REALITY TV SERIES!!!

SOUND THE ALARMS!

Gina8642

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 07:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I give up Coffee - I was trying to reassure you. I guess that isn't really possible. Sorry about that.

And - much of the concern last year was around children - Gerry's children and Gerry's students to be precise. Same outrage - exact same - I swear I could find posts that nearly match yours word for word. Gerry's children and students weren't harmed in any way by BB and niether will Elena.

Cliotheleo

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 07:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It's $20 not $200. My granny used to give me $5 for Christmas until she died in my mid-20's. It made her happy. My mother still takes me grocery shopping (even though she doesn't need to) because I live in another city and she worries about me. It makes HER feel better.

Without knowing the dynamics of their situation and what Ali's financial situation is, I don't think we have any room to judge.

But since I'm sure some will anyway, please use the space provided below.......

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Wendo

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 07:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Clio! I love ya!

Coffee

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 07:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This is a difference of someone giving money and someone asking for it. Ali said do you think it is wrong if I ask my dad for money.

Listening to this it sounded like Ali changed her mind about the amount of money. She paused just before she mentioned 20.