Tountz | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 10:24 am     I am thinking maybe they were playing AS and thought they would end up on the show as ex's but would really be a couple and no one would know, which would give them a big advantage. Naw! my minds working to hard here, they could'nt be smart enough to figure all that out. Nevermind! |
Bettyrubble | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 10:25 am     I couldn't agree with you more Keiffer! I'm sure the producers are loving all this hype 2 days before the premiere. |
Laisey | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 10:26 am     LOL Lurk. And children, the moral of this story is: Never post anything on your site that you might want to remove later. Someone will have already posted it on a message board. |
C1mag | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 10:26 am     Keiff I agree that they are going to benefit from this. However, I do think where Jason was slated to play the virginal christian that this guy Brandon was possibly slated to play the "sleaze" as he called it in his post and when they saw that he wasn't going to be doing that they decided to bump him for another one. It's all a guessing game right now but as I posted earlier I suspect it's minor as well. On a side note... where did you read that bb1 was a failure? I thought it was a success and therefore generated the second season but they needed to challenge themselves to come up with a new angle to keep peoples interest. |
Tountz | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 10:26 am     Guess I have been a better lurker these past 3 years than a poster. |
Tabbyking | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 10:28 am     as someone pointed out, "Showalter" broken apart into two words is show alter. and it did alter the show!! |
Naja | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 10:29 am     Dang I wish the show would start already! A week from now when we have better stuff to talk about we will probably laugh that we were so interested in talking about someone who didn't even make it on the show..LOL |
Bettyrubble | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 10:29 am     Hamsterlady -- he's a 'puter geek so I'm not surprised. He's probably been all over the web. That brings a question to mind... if he's computer literate, why wouldn't he know how someone could get all of his info from the web? Supposedly, his information is all over the web and if you know that from working with 'puters wouldn't you make sure all of your info was VERY hard to find? |
Bmh | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 10:30 am     I think this whole thing is so irresponsible of Arnie. I think it is almost quite embarrassing to have your new BB cast revealed and then 2 days later they already have to remove someone from the cast..Its ridiculous And Arnie really should find a replacement of Brandon to use on the show because the "13 HG's" has been hyped up so much on CBS..If the show ended up with only 12 HG'S..many new viewers are probably going to feel lied too and feel BB is perhaps a dishonest show...I don't know I just hope Arnie finds a good replacement and this all gets worked out by the premiere But obviously IF..the hg's moved in yesterday on schedule then he obviously already picked his replacement and added him to the first 9 HG's. CBS just needs to update the BB4 Website |
C1mag | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 10:30 am     Naja I agree. It's sorta like that damn frenchy thing from American Idol hahahaha! |
Lurknomore | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 10:30 am     Um Keiffer you are forgetting something somewhat important. YOU felt BB1 was a failure because you didn't like it. Network execs could care less if they like or dislike a show. They care about the numbers and the ratings were always respectable for BB1 even though it was on 300 times a week, and the TV production was loose and poorly done. And Keiffer they kept one token nice guy on the show last year. One who wouldn't lie, cheat or stir pots. I am certain that was one more than Arnie wanted this year. IMHO he is missing the critical soap opera element that for people to love villians there have to be some good guys to root for. Also we all know that AS casts folks in "roles." So I'm thinking that Arnie cast Musclebeach to be the playboy, especially after his saying he would flirt and play around if that's what it took to win. When he saw he was in a committed relationship and didn't have the boytoy he hired, he wanted him gone. I'm thinking he was the studboy that was supposed to lure, or at least try, the woman away from their exes. Lastly, Keiffer you said they want wild as well as straightlaced, and that interaction makes the show good. Other than Jason, who of the entire cast was straightlaced? Not much chance of "interaction" IMHO when the odds were 10-1. |
Laisey | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 10:31 am     C1mag, I, too, wonder why BB1 is referred to as a failure. If my memory is correct it had the highest ratings of any of CBS's summer shows that season. |
Hamsterlady | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 10:33 am     Betty - You would think he knows how the internet works...LOL But then again, it's VERY obvious to me that he's got an ego the size of TX. <sarcasm on>And of course, he would never apply for a show where he couldn't show off his narcissism. <sarcasm off> He's gonna milk this for all he's worth. It's all he's got going for him at this point.... |
Zachsmom | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 10:37 am     C1mag...we're neighbors! |
Bmh | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 10:37 am     I think Brandon obviously did something to get kicked off BB4 Arnie wouldn't just decide Oh I'm missing a key character in my group for my soap opera this summer so I am gonna throw out Brandon and add someone in with more personality..It doesn't friggin work that way espeically when the first 9 ppl have already been revealed all over the internet and even in Magazines!! I got my new Entertainment Weekly Magazine and sure enough the first 9 including Brandon are all there with their pictures and short bios. Either Brandon decided to not participate in BB4 on his on regards or he did something to get kicked off |
Crossfire | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 10:37 am     Some feel BB1 was a bit of a snoozer. It was on TV five nights a week, and they did not seem to have much to work with or as much time to get in quality story edits. Some people liked 1, some people slept through it. |
Lurknomore | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 10:44 am     OMG Hamster, scarcasm comes with an OFF button??? NOW YOU TELL ME!!!!!!!!!!!  |
Jdctexas | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 10:45 am     C1mag and Laisey: In the ratings, BB1 did okay and it really wasn't a failure. I think why some people viewed it as a "failure" was because the critics blasted the show every chance they got (IMHO). Also keep in mind that TV shows do get a second chance in many cases (unless they totally bomb the first year). It's a chance to show improvement and bring in more viewers. That was secured in BB2 with the "knife" incident sucking in so many new people to the show. It's also been mentioned that it seemed like it was on all the time that first year. Can you spell "overkill"? The current airing format works out well, IMHO. The two main things I miss from the BB1 days is the free feeds and Brittany. ;-) |
Faerygdds | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 10:51 am     Arnie said there was a possibility that all 13 may not stay past the first night. Perhaps we are not giving enough credit... Perhaps during his background check he found out that his gf was intersted in making thier relationship work... perhaps brandon had an ex coming in and when she did... Brandon bailed! MAYBE... she wanted to rekinle the old flame and he wanted to be failthful and did not know if he could... maybe this was the HG that was thought to be the one to "possibly" leave on the first night. And maybe he did... just a thought. |
Avenger | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 10:53 am     Well, we can all debate which was the better season, be it BB1, 2 or 3 - but the fact of the matter - not that I'm defending him - is that Arnie must be doing something right or the network wouldn't be renewing it every year. |
Crossfire | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 10:54 am     Roger that. |
Jdctexas | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 10:56 am     Exactly, Avenger...Arnie has done very well over the previous seasons. It also helps when you have conflicting personalities clashing as well. :-) Got to get people coming back to watch somehow. |
Pamy | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 10:58 am     For the following reasons I bet this is all a planned publicity stunt by AS There has always been 12 HG The guy was hot and featured in the ads AS made the comment about not being surprised if someone walks out right away What better way to get buzz for the show going before it even starts, might even get some nonBB viewers to tune in the first nite, remember how boring the first show was last year?? sitting in a tree!! Brandon has a website before the show starts I bet they don't replace him. We will probably never know if this was really a publicity stunt. I bet Brandon was paid by AS to stir things up and probably signed an agreement to never tell. |
Laisey | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 11:03 am     I think that if whatever happened was something that could be used on the show, (such as his leaving because of an ex coming in) CBS would not have banished him from their site. I believe he was removed before they entered the house. If he had actually entered the house, I don't see how they could have edited him out of group shots for the TV show. And if he was to appear on the show, they would have left his picture up and X'd it out after the show aired. |
Lurknomore | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 11:03 am     Avenger my problem with Arnie is that I wouldn't care if he took his "vision" and created 20 new and successful sleezy shows for CBS or anywhere. What I think he is doing something wrong is what he is turning BB into...a FOX quality trash TVfest. IMHO of course. |