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Bastable

Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 02:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
correction: it reads "click here to continue," which takes my browser to the RealOne download page.

Wendo/Spear, can you walk me through exactly what you're clicking and the page you go to for logging in?

Karuuna

Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 03:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I get the same thing Bastable... but I'm on Plus. So I don't get where they are clicking "log in" either. :(

Bonzacat

Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 05:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bastable - here is the sucure Real login page:

https://account.real.com/login/

If you click "remember my Password" that will also leave a cookie, which is a good thing in this case. I believe that took me through all of last season and out of the bad loop process. I believe also that this is the last thing I tried Tuesday and then realized I had success in OS9.

Good luck!

Thuzala

Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 05:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, I read somewhere on the first night that a mac user was on an old RP 6 and got BB4. So after talking to Techs at RP and them saying NO cant get BB4 unless using OSX (I am using 9.1 and my husband won't use X because he says it's a pain ...for all his graphic stuff and he hates using it at work) Anyways, I dumped my old RP 8, which worked fine last year and tried to download RP 6. My system wouldn't take it after multiple tries.
Now my question is.....
1. How many of you are able to use RP plus?
is it working? really? I don't want to pay for it and hassle with all that and get my hopes up if it just crashes and then won't let me back on on BB4.

2. I just asked my husband if we could download OSX and put it on an alternate startup or run it separately from his 9.1 setup and he said it was doable but he hates OSX and that it will override the system and 9.1 will have to be in a folder for separate use.

Ok all you techies, I just know you can figure out a way around this.....pleeeeeese.
I spent the last couple of hours catching up on the live feeds and am just dying here without my feeds off to the side....sigh, I was so looking forward to my fourth year. All day I told myself it was ok, this was a good thing, I wouldn't be glued to the screen for three months. I could read the feeds, I could watch the show.... I could cry myself to sleep.....sh#$&?/#
Someone tell me we can DO THIS!!!!

Bonzacat

Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 05:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm using Real Player 6.0.9, Mac OS 9.2.2, had luck pasting these links into the Real address window. You can also paste them into a browser address window.

rtsp://start.real.com/rd?pid=bb4&url=bb4_1.smil
rtsp://start.real.com/rd?pid=bb4&url=bb4_2.smil
rtsp://start.real.com/rd?pid=bb4&url=bb4_3.smil
rtsp://start.real.com/rd?pid=bb4&url=bb4_4.smil
rtsp://start.real.com/rd?pid=bb4&url=bb4_quad.smil

And I believe the last place I tried to login, which finally *worked* was:

https://account.real.com/login/

I have not had to login since, and I did check "remember my Password" on that login page. Now, all I do is launch Real Player and use one of the above stream links, which I bookmarked in Real Player.

Thuzala

Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 06:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bonzacat-which player is the 6.0.9? I thought it was version 6 and that is what prompted me to trash my RP 8 and try downloading the G2 (version 6) which wouldn't work.
I am on the 14 day free trial and signed up for the quarterly already....that was before I found out the night the feeds started that I couldn't use RP 8. DRATS!
I am in dire straights here....I want my feeds, sigh. Unfortunately I think my husband is secretly delighted that I can't get them (altho he is being very sweet, and saying "Sorry you are having trouble..." Ha! if he was really supportive he would be installing OSX.

Bonzacat

Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 07:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thuzala -- I have had this version of RealPlayer on my system for a while now. It is version 6, precisely (from the Get Info window) it is v. 6.0.9.584 Copyright 1999.

This just means that it is somewhere in the progression of RP6.

Also - I am on Mac OS 9.2.2.

Wendo

Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 08:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bastable, sorry I didn't respond sooner, but I was out running errands.

Regarding my Mac accessing the feeds under 9.2, I'm using RealPlayer 8 Plus, build 6.0.9.584. I believe I downloaded it during BB2, but I honestly don't recall. Ok, just looked at Get Info and it says, Created Feb 22, 2001, Modified Jul 10, 2003. IIRC, the Plus version had more audio options, like an equalizer, etc.

As far as accessing the feeds, I copied and pasted Adamblasts links into the Location bar, hit enter, and up came the RealOne logo telling me to Click Here To Log In. I clicked, it opened a page in my web browser (IE 5.1.6), and a webpage of Real's opened that had space for my email address and my password. Did that, a small Real file downloaded, and the feeds started.

One thing I did notice, but I haven't tried to repeat was I quit my IE web browser and just listened to the feeds. Then, I had to restart my computer. I did, then fired up RealPlayer Plus. The same routine but when I clicked log in, I got the loop. Then I thought, Hm, I don't have my web browser open. So, I opened IE and tried it again. It worked.

So, two theories. One, you have to go through the click a couple of times; maybe it loops and then gets it right. Or, two, have your web browser open while watching the feeds.

Just to let you know, I'm typing this on my PowerBook with the quad feed running. I wanted to make sure that today wasn't a fluke. So far, it doesn't appear to be.

I will say one thing, the feeds are MUCH better, smoother and clearer on my PC using RealOne. Maybe since RealPlayer Plus is older, it doesn't perform as well. Also, the feeds seem a bit more unreliable on the Mac, more buffering and timing out.

I think it's possible and doable to see BB4 on a Mac running OS 9, but you'll likely be happier running it under OS X.

Here's a pic from right now on the feeds:

my picture

Bonzacat

Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 09:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thuzala and ALL...

My apologies -- I am using Real Player 8 basic, build 6.0.9.584.

Spear

Friday, July 11, 2003 - 01:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bastable, sorry for the delay but I just went through it again, this time running MacOS 9.2.2 instead of Classic under OS X. It worked. Hopefully, I took better notes:

1. Start Netscape (IE will probably work). I had cookies enabled (originating server only). I had Java and JavaScript enabled but that's probably unnecessary.

2. Start RealPlayer 8 Plus. I'm using Build 6.0.9.584. I also had to update some codecs last year. I think I was prompted to do this when starting the BB3 feeds. I also have cookies enabled here.

3. In RP8, select "File->Open Location..." and type this:

rtsp://start.real.com:554/rd?pid=bb4_live&url=quad_225.rm

4. This brings up this screen:

BB login

5. Click "log in". This brings up the RealOne login page in Netscape.

6. In Netscape, type in e-mail address and password and click "Sign-In".

7. A small file "ram.rxml" is downloaded, which is automatically loaded by RP8. In a few seconds, the BB4 stream starts running:

BB feed

Hope this helps!

Bastable

Friday, July 11, 2003 - 07:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank you so much to those people who posted careful descriptions of what you were doing. I think I see the difference now.

Agh, see, you all are having a different experience than most of us.

Spear's screenshot shows a white login screen that reads "to access this you need a subscription." But those of us who can't access the feeds are getting a different screen, an animated one, that says we need to download RealOne in order to access the feeds.

I notice that each one of you who has had success had it because you saw that login screen and not the "you need RealOne" screen.

So my next challenge is how to get to that login screen!

Karuuna

Friday, July 11, 2003 - 10:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bastable, I'm guessing you should be able to get there by deleting your cookies, forcing you to log in. It may take using a different browser, or deleting cookies from whatever browser you use (rather than just deleting the RealPlayer cookies).

Bastable

Friday, July 25, 2003 - 06:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just to follow up--my OS9 feeds have never worked. I now bring my OSX laptop to work and hook it up, via an ethernet hub, to the Web. I watch them out of the corner of my eye.