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TV ClubHouse: Archive: All Things Technical for BB 2003 (computer stuff): Accessing the 10 streams directly thru RealOne, BBLive, etc.: Archive through July 09, 2003

Adamblast

Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 06:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
225K Stream
rtsp://start.real.com:554/rd?pid=bb4_live&url=cam1_225.rm
rtsp://start.real.com:554/rd?pid=bb4_live&url=cam2_225.rm
rtsp://start.real.com:554/rd?pid=bb4_live&url=cam3_225.rm
rtsp://start.real.com:554/rd?pid=bb4_live&url=cam4_225.rm
rtsp://start.real.com:554/rd?pid=bb4_live&url=quad_225.rm

80K Stream
rtsp://start.real.com:554/rd?pid=bb4_live&url=cam1_80.rm
rtsp://start.real.com:554/rd?pid=bb4_live&url=cam2_80.rm
rtsp://start.real.com:554/rd?pid=bb4_live&url=cam3_80.rm
rtsp://start.real.com:554/rd?pid=bb4_live&url=cam4_80.rm
rtsp://start.real.com:554/rd?pid=bb4_live&url=quad_80.rm

A special thanks to whoever listed those links first; I just got them thru the thread entitled "24/7" in the General Discussion area.

Next up: walking you thru adding them into your player for direct access.

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Dipo

Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 06:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank you, thank you. I was going to ask how do I put the cameras on my desktop. I did that last year and it was great but I don't remember how I did it. Someone here posted how.

Adamblast

Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 06:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This is for those who have already subscribed to Superpass, and have already successfully logged into Real.com as a Superpass user at least once. At that point, you should be "preapproved" to access the streams directly. Any membership problems will have to be debugged seperately, and I want to get this out there first...

Step 1: Open RealPlayerOne or whatever Real Player you're using.

Step 2: Find the place where you can type in web addresses... In RealPlayerOne, it's under FILE >> OPEN.

Step 3: Copy into the address window the first stream above you want the player to memorize. Highlight one of the lines above, and hit Control-C or do a right-click-copy. In Real's little OPEN: window hit Control-V or do a right-click paste.

The first stream should start, and you're IN!

Next: How to save the first stream as a Favorite, then how to store & save the rest.

Adamblast

Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 06:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Step 4: Once you've accessed your first camera, you'll want to SAVE this link for easy access. It may be in different places for different players, but in RealOne, it's under FAVORITES>> ADD CLIP TO FAVORITES...

You can either save it in the default Favorites area, or you can create a special folder for BB4 links only. I did the latter: under FAVORITES >> MANAGE FAVORITES I added a BB4 folder first.

Then under FAVORITES >> ADD CLIP TO FAVORITES I chose my new folder in the FOLDER drop-down list. Once you've successfully saved the current camera link, make sure it works by choosing it from the FAVORITES menu, and making sure it reloads.

Adamblast

Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 06:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Steps 5 thru whatever...

Basically now, you repeat this process for all the other cameras and the quad. I'm on broadband, but I also want access to the dial-up cameras, so I added all 10 of the streams above. If it all goes correctly, you should now be able to choose between all 5 (or 10) streams easily and directly through the FAVORITES drop-down menus.

Adamblast

Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 06:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Next: Accessing the streams directly thru BBLIVE.

You can do this 1 of 2 ways.

Method #1: If you're unfamiliar with plain text files (as opposed to WORD files, or other fancy documents) then you'll want to store them interactively into BBLive, much like we did for RealOne.

This assumes you've already got the BBLive program, and know how to start it.

From within BBLive, go to FEEDS >> ADD/EDIT. You'll see a table which needs to be filled out. Under "Title:", put the name of the Camera, like "CAMERA 1 Broadband", or "QUAD Dial-up", or whatever you like. Copy the appropriate link (listed in the first message up above) into the "Link:" area beside the title.

After you've done this for all 5 (or 10) streams, make sure you hit SAVE, and you're good to go.

This basically saves a small file called "BBLive.ini" in the same folder as the BBLive program, which tells it what to put on the FEEDS menu, and how to find all the cameras.

Adamblast

Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 06:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
BBLIVE Method #2:

If you're already familiar with Notepad or Wordpad, or plain text files in general, just cut and paste THE FOLLOWING into a little file called "BBLive.ini" in the same folder as the program. That'll set it all up automatically.


[BigBroLive]
Title0=# &1 - Cam 1 225
Link0=rtsp://start.real.com:554/rd?pid=bb4_live&url=cam1_225.rm
Title1=# &2 - Cam 1 80
Link1=rtsp://start.real.com:554/rd?pid=bb4_live&url=cam1_80.rm
Title2=# &3 - Cam 2 225
Link2=rtsp://start.real.com:554/rd?pid=bb4_live&url=cam2_225.rm
Title3=# &4 - Cam 2 80
Link3=rtsp://start.real.com:554/rd?pid=bb4_live&url=cam2_80.rm
Title4=# &5 - Cam 3 225
Link4=rtsp://start.real.com:554/rd?pid=bb4_live&url=cam3_225.rm
Title5=# &6 - Cam 3 80
Link5=rtsp://start.real.com:554/rd?pid=bb4_live&url=cam3_80.rm
Title6=# &7 - Cam 4 225
Link6=rtsp://start.real.com:554/rd?pid=bb4_live&url=cam4_225.rm
Title7=# &8 - Cam 4 80
Link7=rtsp://start.real.com:554/rd?pid=bb4_live&url=cam4_80.rm
Title8=# &9 - Quad 225
Link8=rtsp://start.real.com:554/rd?pid=bb4_live&url=quad_225.rm
Title9=# &0- Quad 80
Link9=rtsp://start.real.com:554/rd?pid=bb4_live&url=quad_80.rm
Title10=
Link10=
Title11=
Link11=
Title12=
Link12=
Top= 2400
Left= 6975
Width= 6180
Height= 6450

Adamblast

Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 06:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That's all there is to it! We'll deal with BBReloader or any other viewer utilities as needed.

Hope this helps!

Andiegirl

Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 07:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So which streams should I use? The 80K or the 225K? I can't really tell a difference and I have dial-up. Maybe the audio's a little better on 225K, but my video absolutely STINKS on both. And I have Real Plus and the Superpass.

Bonzacat

Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 09:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Adamblast -- THANK YOU for taking the time to post all that *supremely important* info! I'm in CA, just using the BB4 24/7 $24.95 access, and was able to get the feeds at 5:55pm with your information. You rock! (BTW - it was fun to get the feeds hours before the premier show, but I had no idea who anyone was!)

Adamblast

Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 09:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Andie, I would expect that the 80k streams have more chance of showing you decent video... But if it really looks equally crummy for both, then it's up to you, of course... The 225k streams are apt to lapse into "still picture" mode on a dialup...

I should point out that the links above WILL work if you just copy one to your desktop.

Also, if you prefer to use the stream version *with* the added frames around it, so you can just click between streams that way, make sure to add one or more of THESE to your desktop and/or put it into your RealOne "Favorites" section:

BB Cams WITH FRAMES:
rtsp://start.real.com/rd?pid=bb4&url=bb4_1.smil
rtsp://start.real.com/rd?pid=bb4&url=bb4_2.smil
rtsp://start.real.com/rd?pid=bb4&url=bb4_3.smil
rtsp://start.real.com/rd?pid=bb4&url=bb4_4.smil
rtsp://start.real.com/rd?pid=bb4&url=bb4_quad.smil

Those versions will choose FOR you whether it's the 80k or 225k stream, and the picture is a little smaller, but you can switch between the cameras with extra ease.

You can add them to your favorites (or your desktop) just like the direct links I posted initially.

Adamblast

Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 09:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
These versions with frames are a little pickier and more prone to crash on some systems, I should add...

They had a tendency to freeze my system until I completely uninstalled and reinstalled RealOne again... But now they work just as well as the direct/non-frame links...

Carol

Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 10:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
How do I keep my realplayer on top of other windows I have open?

Draheid

Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 10:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Carol: In Realplayer, click the >> then view then On Top While Playing to keep the player on top of other windows.

Jan

Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 11:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Adam..how do we get BBLive?

Wendo

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 01:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jan, here you go:

http://www.bigbrolive.com/big/index.htm

Jan

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 07:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
thanks Wendo! :)

Indybarb

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 09:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
hi.. i did the bblive download and typed in the rtsp lines (5) in the pull down menu.... it then had me download RealPlayer and i had the bblive shortcut on my desktop... HOWEVER, when i very excitedly clicked on it, i got system error
&H8004005 (-2147467259)... is this something that can be corrected easily? i think i am in way over my head "technically" anyhow.... also, when using the regular feeds from real/cbs, i remember last year we could make the picture bigger and remove the chatinfo/advertising on right side.. is that still possible? thanks

Indybarb

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 09:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
p.s.... thanks anyhow, now i can't even get the live BB either by real, the shortcut or cbs, so am going to delete all the shortcut stuff and go back to regular where i belong :)

Scorpiomoon

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 10:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Adam: Thank you a million times over! I had read about BBLive at another thread, but your .ini instruction post helped me get everything set up perfectly. Thank you!

Andiegirl

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 10:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Adam: Thx so much! I've done your RealPlayer directions w/o problems and have pulled all 10 streams to my desktop. Plus I did the quadcam with frames, so I have a full desktop. Awesome!

Draheid: I never knew about the "on top while playing" feature. All the times LFPing and the video minimizes when moving thru TVCH--ugh. But no more! I LOVE it. You rock.

Xx2000xx

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 11:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Any way to seperate the audio streams? Or do u guys just keep all the cams going at once, then pause/stop when you want to hear one feed?

Ryn

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Do me a favor - someone - please try this link and let me know if it works for you. You can re-size it once its loaded - its a flash thing I just wrote.

Flash Feed Selector

Thanks :)

Xx2000xx

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Works fine here.

Jmm

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Worked great for me Ryn