Xarph | Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 11:29 pm     Clio, the good news is that the sound problem you are seeing is not a technical problem. The bad news is that the problem is intentional. The editors are censoring the sound. They are censoring the sound to save whatever the conversation is for exclusive use on the TV show. This censorship is different than the normal FOTH with silly music. Camera 1 and camera 2 are usually on the same scene. The sound for both camera 1 and camera 2 comes from the camera 1 feed. If you watch the quad cam, you will see camera 1 video go to FOTH while camera 2 video remains on the scene. While camera 1 is showing the FOTH, the camera 1 sound is comming from the FOTH microphone. All this trickery allows the techs to keep recording the whole scene for TV will censoring us from the sound. |
Cliotheleo | Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 11:30 pm     And I wouldn't even have a problem so much with JUST two shots if something was going on in both of those shots. For a while there, we had nothing going on in some of them and I find that hard to believe, again, with 13 people in the house. |
Ministryoftruth | Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 11:32 pm     I only use it for Big Brother. I think I'm still mad from last year when I lost my service for the final 48 hours of the show. To make things worse, they kept charging me for three months after I cancelled and then wouldn't give me my money back. |
Xarph | Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 11:36 pm     You will never get more than two scenes on the four cameras. Often you will get only one scene on all four cameras. This happens when someone is in the diary room. You can always tell when someone is in the DR because all four cams will be on the same scene. |
Tobor7 | Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 11:53 pm     Well... I have to admit I bought a new computer just in time for the show. Got the fastest thing available. 3-GHz 800fsb 1-mb mem, WinXP, etc. I've got cable/roadrunner and a nice 21" monitor. This computer is now the 2nd one on my desk. The ONLY thing running on it is BB. I even bought the better "player plus" to get the audio and video controls... I'm getting 226kbps... now... with that said, I'm not impressed at all with the feed. It is no better than what I had last year on a 1-GHz unit. The audio comes in clean, but the video is jumpy at times, freezes up a lot. Real Player crashes from time to time. Sometimes when I click on another camera it tells me that I need to download another version of the program. Usually I have to reboot. The color is good enough. The steam sucks. I think the quad cam refreshes faster than the single cams. Too bad I can't switch between audio and just leave it on the quad cams. This is certainly nothing like TV. Too bad the technology here is no well applied. Other RP feeds come in a lot better. And that's all I have to say about that. |
Froggiegirl621 | Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 06:51 am     I'm not a very technical person so bear with me here... When I went to view the quad cam this morning I noticed a problem. I'm not sure if it's just my problem, or Real One's problem, but its very annoying. When you go to view quad, the positioning of the four screens is off. I only get cam 1 in full, the rest I only see parts of. Yesterday I didn't have any problems, this is the first I've seen this happen. I'm desperate to get this fixed before the hamsters sart getting up for the day...any help would be ver much appreciated!!! |
Laisey | Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 06:59 am     Froggie, I've got the same thing. It must be Real, not you. |
Jb3542 | Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 07:10 am     Just a question... Does it seem likely there will be a fix so that it actually will be “live feeds” and not still frames that update every 5 to 20 seconds? The audio is tolerable are they censoring it by purposely having it cut out? |
Froggiegirl621 | Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 07:47 am     Thanks Laisey! I was really starting to freak out!!! They better fix this soon, its really getting me mad! Anyone else getting this??? |
Happypixie | Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 07:49 am     jb, you must be on dial up....the fix is getting a broadband/hispeed internet connection Tobor, have you tried using bigbrolive to watch the feeds? you can have 4 windows open and running at the same time - one for each feed and then just switch the volume off on the ones you're not watching. Gets rid of most of the realplayer problems, feels like you're using more of the computers power.... see adamblasts posts at 646pm and 649pm on July 8 under "all things technical for BB 2003" in the folder "accessing the 10 streams directly" for instructions on setting up BigBrolive |
Happypixie | Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 07:52 am     oh - and you need to go to http://www.bigbrolive.com/big/index.htm to download it - only takes a second you don't need to be too technical to do this...I managed :p and make sure that you're using the broadband streams....they have the number 225 at the end....the 80 is for dial up |
Friendofdot | Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 08:37 am     I have a question about bigbrolive. When I checked the system requirements, WindowsXP was not listed. Is anyone using this program that has WinXP as an operating system? |
Froggiegirl621 | Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 08:45 am     Does anyone have any suggestions on where to post to have someone help me with my quad cam problem??? I know Laisey said she was having the same problem, but in the BB4 chatroom no one else is having the problem....HELP!!!!!! |
Jalynne | Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 08:48 am     Friendofdot, my OS is XP and I have no trouble with bigbrolive. |
Saggkl | Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 09:18 am     Happypixie I downloaded the file but it won't let me access anything I get rtst://210.8.93.195/broadcast/encoded/bigbrother-broadband-01.m And at top, requested file not found. The link you followed may be outdated or inaccurate. |
Friendofdot | Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 09:20 am     Jalynne, thank you for the info. As I just crashed with Real, I am very anxious to try bigbrolive. Just want something to work :-) |
Grannyg | Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 09:36 am     Saggkl, I noticed that on the very end of your link it says 01.m and mine says 01.rm. That may or may not be any help. I have downloaded everything anyone has suggested trying to get mine to work and right now BBlive is working but like I said I think you need the "r" before the "m". |
Saggkl | Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 09:39 am     But how do you get the r before the m? I downloaded like it said. put a shorcut on my desktop and clicked on feeds |
Saggkl | Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 09:41 am     sorry I actually do have rm. |
Grannyg | Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 09:53 am     This is what I have in Title when I go to the edit thingie: # &1 - Cam 1 225 and this is what I have in links: rtsp://start.real.com:554/rd?pid=bb4_live&url=cam1_225.rm Here is the Link about midway down that I copied. For some reason the ones at the top did not work for me. Now you have to delete "title1=" and "link=1" off of the first of the line but it was the only way I could get any of it to work. Leave the rest of the line just take off the beginning. I copied then pasted the line in the edit box and then just went back and deleted the first part so that I didn't have to type the whole line in. I'm not real good at explaining things but hope you can figure out what I've done. |
Suzsmarmie | Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 10:04 am     Froggie, I've got it too, and someone in one of the chat rooms did mention it earlier...so, unless someone knows more, I think it is RP or something with the cameras. Hope this helps. |
C1mag | Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 10:21 am     Ok I expected all the bugs to be fixed today and yet there is still the same problems. Now I'm officially pissed. I'm not gonna watch another day of screen caps and listen to botched sound. I'm calling Real right now and I'll post what they say. |
Suzsmarmie | Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 10:26 am     You go, C1!! Give 'em Heck. |
Demeter | Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 10:32 am     Last year I had a problem with Real One that made the feeds look like screen caps, rather than streaming video. No matter what I tried I could not get it going. The resolution came from adding a partition to the computer and installing the program in that partition and it worked fine. I imagine that meant that there was some piece of junk leftover from a previous version that was not getting deleted when uninstalled and reinstalled on the original partition. I know that is a drastic solution but I was going crazy trying to get it working and all the options given to me by others just did not work. |
C1mag | Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 10:35 am     Are you ready for this? They say that the reason it is running bad today is because "A lot of people are viewing it right now but in about a week it should run better" To which I replied.. "I had no problem last year when it started up" Then they offered me an additional month free after I said that it's all over the Internet that it's running real bad and that basically the story is that it's not worth it this year. I guess basically today they aren't really caring how bad the feeds are and hopefully they will work themselves out on there own. So I get an additional month free for screen caps. Big flippin deal! |