Archive through July 07, 2003
TV ClubHouse: Archive: Brandon - Gone already - wow that was fast.:
Archive through July 07, 2003
Jdctexas | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 08:15 pm     Now I AM wondering if this is an Arnie "plant" to stir thing up. |
Dipo | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 08:18 pm     OMG, this is so weird |
Laisey | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 08:19 pm     Keiffer, You forgot the worse change they made. Having the HGs in the house 4 days before the feeds start. |
Lurknomore | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 08:20 pm     There might not be a great mystery there...imagine the number of hits his site suddenly has been getting. I use powweb as a host for all my sites and have never had any problems. But I know I've never had hits of this magnitude. The error showing isn't an unknown domain. They offer 45 mb tranfer/bandwidth. I bet this site alone ate it up. And we all know this has been posted all over various BB sites with tons of folks hitting it multiple times. My guess is they temporarily pulled it and sent him a mail asking if he wanted to upgrade (aka buy more bandwidth this month. He might be relieved not to worry about it and just let it go for this month. |
Lurknomore | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 08:25 pm     Sorry Keiffer but I think you think BB1 was a failure simply because you didn't like it. The ratings were solid. It just so happened that a the phenomenon of Survivor 1 came along in that time frame. But let's be fair and compare it to all the other shows on when it was on, and BB1 did quite well. Like ANY new show they needed to tweak it and make it better. Did you know that All in the Family was almost nuked the first season? BTW yes Arnie and crew make their living producing shows, but to me their resume is not especially dazzling, nor have their shows been megahits. And given their choices here I personally see why. |
Keiffer | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 08:28 pm     I forgot about that change... the letting the HG's in before the feeds come on. That is a change that for sure hurts us a great deal. The way that the initial interactions occurs canhave ripples through the whole thing. I 'm thinking of last year when on the first night Josh made his move on Marcy in like a couple of hours. I am big enough to admit though, that while I hate it as constant viewer on the feeds it makes since for the show. It gives them a few days footage to make the initial get to know the HG's a bit better for the TV audience. Also, I realize that they do better because of the internet viewers, but that the real money comes in from getting better ratings on TV not the internet. I think some time because we love this stuff so much that we elevate our importance to the show. If they turned off the internet feeds all together I wonder if they would even feel it in the ratings. I mean if they did eleminate the feeds the could edit any way they want, and maybe they could make it better TV. I mean we have no idea what really happens in the non-compitition moments on Survivor, but still like it. |
Lurknomore | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 08:34 pm     Keiffer are you sure you aren't Arnie??? lol Also, why not start the feeds when the HG's first move in, THEN the show. It would entice people to get the feeds to have access and not miss a thing. Also to see things before the TV viewing audience. It would be an excellent money making opportunity for CBS and Real. And yes they could cut the feeds altogether, but since that is the premise of the show, that wouldn't make much sense. And as for liking it, if it wasn't for the feeds I wouldn't waste my time cause I wouldn't trust one drop of the editing. |
Fabnsab | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 08:36 pm     Ok, I scare myself. Bastable, I remember the alternate they wanted to bring in on BB1 and her name was Beth. There, I officially have no life. I can't imagine AS kicking a stud off the show for breaking such a rule so early in the game when noone would even know he broke it. For goodness sake, he looked like he was going to leave Justin on after all the rules he broke. It seemed he merely gave into pressure and threw him off. It's one thing when millions SEE the rules being broken, but we saw none of this. Noone was the wiser. He could have smoothed this over. I still believe what I posted last night is true. He was faced with his ex, knew the girlfriend on the website would not go for it, and bailed. I just can't see the people who let Justin put a knife to someones throat, throw this guy off for making a call. |
Bearstuff | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 08:38 pm     Man oh Man!!!!!!! I have got to pay attention to these boards more........ I thought I had time before the show started!!!! shooooooooots!!!!!! I missed an eviction already!!!! ????????? man!!!! |
Hokeypokey04 | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 08:51 pm     I have a quick question. For those of you that have seen the commercial with Brandon in it (which is probably everyone but me lol), who else was featured in the commercial?? I've seen the one with Scott, David, and one of the girls a few times, and I've seen the one with Nathan and one of the girls once. I was wondering if that was the one that Brandon was in seeing that it only showed two people and that he was edited out already. Then again I could be wrong, I'm just thinking this because it only showed two houseguests as compared to the other with 3. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 09:03 pm     I think the one change that made the biggest difference in BB's popularity was a single rule that they eliminated after BB1. In BB1, the HGs were not allowed to talk about their nominations (who or why) to anyone.....AT ALL! Remember that? The whole show was about them getting along and about the challenges. There was NO intrigue to be had. Period. Changing that one aspect of the game made all the difference in the world. Since that rule was dropped, the best thing on the show has been the complicated web of promises, secrecy, betrayels, deals, lies, and manipulations that they practically *wallow in* as they each try to gain control of the game. And of course, all that drama invariably results in a tangle of recriminations that that are truly entertaining!. That's the main thing that turned BB into "must see tv'! Nowadays the intrigue has progressed to the point that it's happening before the durn show even starts! |
Demeter | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 09:24 pm     I could be wrong, but I remember it differently. I am not so sure that it was a BB rule not to talk about nominations and such. I remember the houseguests deciding amongst themselves that it would not be discussed after Jordan had a meltdown about being nominated. I recall how Jaime was always in trouble for hinting through cards and such who she was voting for, but the problem was not that she was talking about nominations, it was she was talking in code instead of outloud where the mikes could hear her conversations. Maybe it is just all a blur. |
Momiee43 | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 09:29 pm     I just saw the commercial with Brandon in it about an hour right after w/o a trace. So I'm guessing you might have missed one or they just didn't show but 2 on that commercial. I really don't think Brandon was one of the X's at least not the first, as they did say no one was safe from the X factor. I have a feeling that he will be replaced because it seems to me if CBS was planing to use him as one of the 13 new faces his pic and Bio would still be on the site. I think if he did attempted to make a call and there was a chance he found something out about the X Factor it could very well have changed the game. At this point it's all a guessing game. I think we shall all be very happy come Tuesday night. |
Shortnsweet | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 10:08 pm     HokeyPokey, if you go to the CBS Big Brother site: http://www.cbs.com/primetime/bigbrother4/ You can view the commercial with Brandon in it. Just go to the bottom of the page and click on "Special HouseGuest Video". |
Hokeypokey04 | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 10:12 pm     Alrighty. Thanks Shortnsweet. Why I didn't think of that in the first place, I'll never know. |
Hokeypokey04 | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 10:15 pm     Well I tried that, but it's not working for me. The computer I'm on is like brand new just running today and it doesn't have the player for the commercial yet. I'll have to work on that. Oh well for now. What I saw was probably just another commerical yet. I'll have to start watching CBS to find out. |
Wilsonatmd | Monday, July 07, 2003 - 12:08 am     www.tvgameshows.net, a very respected site about game and reality shows, says that a CBS spokesman will release a statement Monday morning (whether that's east or west coast time, I'm not sure)....the site reports that it was a withdraw, not a DQ. |
Hamsterville | Monday, July 07, 2003 - 12:51 am     I have to agree with Pamy and others who have posted that they believe the whole Brandon thing is a ratings ploy. It is just too convenient that now we have an even number of hgs, and of men and women. I think a lot goes on with the casting process behind the scenes. Look at Survivor and all the contestants who had ties to Mike Boogie's bar. Sean, Gabe, and Alex. Chiara's brother was a semi-well known actor. Gerry's wife was in the business. BB1 had real people, which IMHO is what reality tv is all about. Now we have people with agents and agendas. But unfortunately BB is no stepping stone to fame and fortune. Not in the US anyway. Brandon was recruited for the sole purpose of being kicked out. It makes sense to me. |
Philamom | Monday, July 07, 2003 - 02:49 am     I think Brandon was removed for some type of unacceptable behavior, despite what he's "allegedly" said about the situation. If he left voluntarily because of the "X" factor, there would be no reason to completely remove him from the CBS site. And, in my opinion, it makes CBS/Big Brother look kind of foolish to have him on their site and then remove him. (Like "OOPS" -- we screwed up again.) If this whole thing was done for a ratings ploy, I think CBS would have capitalized on it by now. |
Laisey | Monday, July 07, 2003 - 04:08 am     Wilson, back in ancient history when I was working in the personnel area I learned that "constructive discharge" was the term used when someone was offered the choice between discharge and resignation. Perhaps this was a "constructive withdraw." |
Laisey | Monday, July 07, 2003 - 04:54 am     After reading the article Wilsonatmd mentioned, I found this on the guy who is supposed to release the statement. Since it says he is based in LA, I guess it will be a while before we see anything. Chris Ender Senior Vice President, Communications, CBS Entertainment How do you create enough publicity to guarantee a hit show without giving away the VERY surprise ending? Chris Ender figured it out. As Senior Vice President, Communications, for CBS Entertainment, Ender unleashed one of biggest media frenzies in recent television history with his publicity campaigns for the runaway hit shows "Survivor" and "Big Brother". Ender is again spearheading CBS's publicity efforts on behalf of "Survivor: The Australian Outback". Based in Los Angeles, Ender oversees the Entertainment Division's media relations operation and develops publicity campaigns supporting the CBS Television Network's primetime, late night, daytime and children's programming. Ender joined CBS in March 1996 as Vice President, Media Relations, CBS Entertainment. He has spearheaded campaigns for primetime series such as "Everybody Loves Raymond," "JAG," "The King of Queens," "Judging Amy," "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation," "The District," and "Touched By An Angel" as well as the event mini-series "Joan of Arc" and "Jesus." Ender is a member and former chairman of the industry's Television Publicity Executive Committee (TPEC) and a member of the Academy of Television Arts and Sciences' PR Executive Committee. He is a graduate of the University of Maryland. Not that any of this is important, but there doesn't seem to be much going on this morning so here it is in case you needed something to read. |
Laisey | Monday, July 07, 2003 - 05:49 am     Julie was asked on The Early Show this morning about BB starting tomorrow. She was all bubbly about the twist and that was it. The light dawned and I now understand -- This is all a dream -- Brandon is not gone and will not be gone until CBS makes an official announcement. Once the announcement is made, we will realize that we are psychic because we all had the same dream which turned into reality. |
Philamom | Monday, July 07, 2003 - 07:11 am     LOL, Laisey. Does anyone remember the TV show Dallas, when the character Bobby Ewing (played by Patrick Duffy) died? And the next season, Bobby was alive ... apparently the entire preceding season had just been a "dream" we were all having. (Hmmm, come to think of it, Dallas was a CBS show, too.) I think CBS wants us to believe that Brandon was just a collective dream we were all having. |
Justareader | Monday, July 07, 2003 - 07:16 am     Hey - Maybe he was just a glitch in the Matrix? LOL - could n't resist poking a little fun at the blockbuster, sorry if inappropriate! |
Philamom | Monday, July 07, 2003 - 07:21 am     Hey, Justareader, at least your Matrix reference is a lot more current than my "dated" Dallas reference, LOL. |
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