Alison's Debate Thread
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These threads are to debate your opinions pro and con of the character of the Houseguests. Keep in mind that we are discussing the one named characters being portrayed in an artificial environment, keep the real life person out of it, we don’t truly know the real people. If you choose to defend a favorite houseguest in one of these threads don’t let yourself get emotionally hammered. Every houseguest has at least one defender who can emotionally detach themselves, if you can’t do that, stay out of these threads. No bashing of fellow posters will be tolerated. Language standards will be enforced. These are not complete free-fire zones and vile posts will be moderated.
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Coffee | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 01:14 am     Thanks Sunrise, I was thinking of not watching BB5 but I probably will considering the ending of this one. Enjoyed this site but I found it a little late. |
Steveh | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 06:15 am     The WINNER of the Big Brother will be on the CBS Morning Show. That would be Jun. Ali will not be appearing. Therefore, TPTB do not consider her a winner (nor do I) and if you are in a competition and do not win, then there is only one other designation--loser. A "runner-up" is still a loser, maybe the biggest loser b/c she was this close to 450 K. Other than that, I totally agree w/ Tobor. Ali Rocks! I wonder what WB sitcom she'll have a cameo on first? I'm sure the offers from those "Elimidate" type shows are pouring in. Why isn't anyone talking about her law career any more? |
Chippy | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 07:37 am     ROTFLMAO at Tobor. Seeing "genuine" and "honest" in the same sentence with "Ali" is funny as h*ll. My gawd, she couldn't even bond with the person left in the house with her the whole last week- despite what they did for each other. Jun could care less if she ever sees Ali again (wait till she sees the tapes- that'll only get worse). Ali could only name Jun as the person she's keep in contact with. LMAO. |
Misslibra | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 07:38 am     Ali need to learn how to smile again instead of being so fake. It's so transparent, people can see right through it, it's rather embarrassing. Poor thing have forgotten how to smile and be real about it. And Ali did say on the live feeds when talking to Jun she felt like she was being ripped off if she got second place. So I'm not so sure Ali was as happy as some might think with second place. She seem to be the kind who feels she needs to win at everything otherwise she is a failure. I guess that is the Beauty Pageant mentality in her. |
Steveh | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 08:59 am     Others are saying Ali "took it well," but I just watched my tape of last night's show and for the last 20 min. Ali reminded me of Sissy Spacek at the end of "Carrie." Thankfully, w/out the telekinetic powers or you can bet BB5 would have a new set. |
Max | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 09:27 am     I'm just glad that Ali's 15 minutes are OVER. I bet she was not too happy watching Jun on The Early Show and knowing that she will probably never occuply that interview chair.  |
Chippy | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 09:28 am     Yeah. "She took it well" is a bit of a stretch IMO. Guess she could've followed through and did what she said she was going to do if any of the jury gave her any crap. Otherwise, what indication was there that she took it well? Her fake Jun hug, her fake smiles, or her fake congratulations? I think she leaves as she comes in... with a little more cash. And, in the big scheme of things, I do mean a "little". She doesn't get the stipend plus the winnings (according to what I read). So, really, she doesn't get a whole lot more than Dana who was jury member number one. Course, Dana got weeks on the beach and a bunch of aerobic love. LOL! |
Meggieprice | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 09:31 am     I thought so too Steve- smiling the glassy smile of a beauty queen and clutching those roses. My opinion is that she will have a hrd fall after all those tactics, which were so alienating to the others, did not achieve her goal. This is a girl who is used to achieving the goal. |
Skypilot | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 09:40 am     Ali reminded me of Sissy Spacek at the end of "Carrie." I just rented the movie "Swimfan". That psycho chick reminded me so much of Alison. Check it out you'll see what I mean. |
Demeter | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 09:46 am     One of the sad things for Alison was her belief that because she won competitions, she should win the game. This game is not about winning competitions, it is about winning votes, which typically means winning people's respect and how you are as a person in the house. I know there are those who believe "anything goes" as long as you get there. However, this type of format is truly about how people interact with one another and rather we like it or not, in the end, it is a personality contest. In this case, we had two people who didn't win over the jurors and the jurors chose the person they saw as the least of the worst. |
Meggieprice | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 12:52 pm     Yes Demeter and that is why I say Jun played the better game- she was careful even as she floated not to tell lies or promise a vote she could not give. She certainly did not endear herself to anyone, lol, but she did not use some of the taftics Ali used that created so much hurt and feelings of betrayal. |
Prism72 | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 12:59 pm     My sentiments exactly, Demeter. This is a psychological game and it is about finding a way to the end of the game by winning people over and maybe winning a few competitions here and there. It is not even necessary to win any comp's in this game and that's exactly why they are often thrown. |
Coffee | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 01:00 pm     Ali mentioned she should go on all the reality shows and win them all. Considering she didn't win this one I don't think that plan is good for her! Her smile, her congrats were all fake last night. Ali herself, said that she didn't want to see the jury again because she would have to put a fake smile on. I can't believe she doesn't realize that everyone knows she is being fake with all of this. She is definately upset about 2nd and she won't really gain much money. |
Steveh | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 01:38 pm     Ali's 0-1 on reality shows so far. IMO, she probably wouldn't win any of them b/c she has no idea nor conern how others perceive her and she doesn't read people very well generally (although at times she can be keenly perceptive i.e. Who wants a lap dance?). If winning the competitions was what mattered at all then they'd figure out a way to factor in a contestant's performance in them w/ the final jury vote, then produce the winner. I think how you BEHAVED in the competitions has as much to do with them as you performed (i.e. Ali not carrying her weight in the gross seafood luxury comp.). |
Woodpecke® | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 10:52 am     "In her bio for the show, Irwin said she planned to win by not lying, cheating or talking behind the backs of others." They need to screen these guests more closely. It's obvious that this one has delusional episodes combined with a "photogenic" memory. A lethal combination. |
R151996 | Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 02:06 am     It has been repeated over and over (and ignored by certain posters) that all HG comments were made BEFORE learning of the X Factor. On the very first episode, Ali was shown in the DR saying that her strategy just went out the window...that would include the comments referred to here. And that same non-delusional HG won $50K more in BB4 than anyone posting at this board did. How can one be delusional if they realize as Ali does that Big Brother is just a game. Almost none of the seven jury members and several here at this board have failed to grasp that concept. |
Dram | Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 01:31 pm     Uh, O.K. It's a game but I don't think anyone here has failed to recognize that fact. I think some people here are more upset with the language Alison used to demean and degrade people, ie. "pervert", "child molestor", "b!tch" and so forth. I definitely "grasp" that. |
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