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Triplexxx

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 12:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Michelle probably had no business there,yes,she`s old enough to be in Iraq,but strangly,she can`t legally drink?I doubt from what people have posted(i haven`t watched this season)that she would have been mature enough to deal with the rigors of this as it went along,not to mention the alcohol-fueled tension.Someone`s probably stated this or something like it already,but i thought i`d weigh in anyways.

R151996

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 07:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If the game was being played using real Big Brother rules--which I greatly prefer to this Survivor ripoff format--Michelle would have done fine. She might have been nominated by those she trusted but would have had to be evicted by the audience.

In just the last two years the Australian BB has had four HMs under age 20, and three of the four have finished in the final seven of their respective series (out of 15 and 16 total HMs).

The ridiculously cutthroat nature that the US format forces the game into will lead to its demise sooner rather than later.

Muse

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 07:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Michelle was on some entertainment show tonight (Extra, maybe?), and commented on Dave. She said they went out nine months, and she regrets it now. She seemed quite angry. Very different from her exit interview. She needs to understand that it was a game and the best decision for him, IMO. I understand why she isn't thrilled with his actions, but she did sound like the type of reality show contestant who takes the game just a tad too personally.

Bastable

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 07:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
R15996, I admit that I prefer the foreign formats of BB to the cutthroat American format, but I notice that the UK BB's ratings are not what they were. So I think the old format can lead to demise, too.

Happycamper

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 10:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Muse, did you consider Michelle found out about Dave sleeping with Amanda? That might factor into her anger level after exiting the house.

R151996

Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 11:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bastable,

The UK has "jumped the shark" with several of the moves it has made the last two years, causing the drop in popularity. Last year the UK house was split into rich/poor sides for far too long. This year they had nominations after less than TWO HOURS in the house, and one of the more entertaining HMs (Anouska) was evicted as a result (she actually spent three days longer as a guest in the Aussie BB than she was on the UK show).

Three years of this bad format (2001's version of the "shark jump") with no major changes (weekly golden veto is a non-factor) has gotten this show stale. And the "X Factor" is definitely not what the series needed.

The only way to salvage this year in my mind is to open up use of the POV by giving the POV holder nomination power with only the HoH immune. That should have been done from the start to avoid a situation like we have now where we are 99% sure who is going six days before eviction.

...And/Or make the actual BB house also the sequester house--players get evicted from the game, go talk to Julie, and are sent straight back in to live for the rest of the series. How about the looks on some faces the first time that would happen.

Without those or some other MEANINGFUL twists, another week or so will finish this series for me. And if I leave, AS & Co. will have to be out before I come back.

Happycamper

Friday, July 25, 2003 - 12:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If I have to hear any more house guests say that they evicted Michelle, for Michelle's best interest...I think I will scream! Who are they to decide what is in Michelle's best interest? Talk about treating her like a complete 5 year old!

Bastable

Friday, July 25, 2003 - 08:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
R15996, I have to agree with you on a lot of that, but my solution is a little different: better casting! Because the X Factor idea so limited AS & Co.'s contestant choices (they had to find two attractive people, not just one), I think we have ended up with some dud personalities.

They should hire the casting director of The Mole or The Amazing Race. That would go miles toward reviving this show.

And I cannot believe that now that American Idol has proved such a mammoth hit that AS & Co. haven't re-introduced the idea of public voting!

Anyway, way off topic here. But Michelle's early eviction has something to do with these flaws.

R151996

Friday, July 25, 2003 - 10:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bastable, Public voting is a big source of revenue in all international BBs. I guess AS is paranoid of losing any of his precious control of the show to the audience.

In my mind international BBs are controlled by Big Brother first, the audience second, and then the hamsters. The US version goes hamsters first, producers (since they don't even use proper BB style of addressing the house) a distant second, and the audience nowhere on the map.

Back on topic to Michelle--she will probably end up being in my Top 5 of this year's cast. But that still doesn't change my opinion that anyone ineligible to apply on their own should also have been ineligible to participate--no exceptions. I will give Michelle credit because she handled her shock exit about as well as could have been expected. Once she decompresses, I hope she realizes that the people she trusted most evicted her for game strategy and not for anything personal. They would take Michelle in the house today over a certain HoH in a heartbeat.

You are absolutely right about casting being too limited due to having to find an original and then an ex. Or like in Ali's case another ex who she thinks must have applied that led to casting her and Justin. This year's 5000 applicants have to be discouraged when at least half of the cast was recruited instead of applying. BB should be about creating a show to fit the cast of the best APPLICANTS ONLY, not scrambling to find a cast to fit a preconceived (and usually not that great) format.

Lorry

Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 08:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Forgive me for going off topic again. I just wanted to say that I kind of wish the next BB could be made up of anyone from the previous shows. That means that Krista, Curtis, Roddy or Amy could sign on to play.

We the viewers would already be familiar with the cast... and Arnie could add twists, like having your ex in the house for just four weeks. They would be paid to do nothing more than live in the house. They would not be eligible to vote, nor can they be voted off. They can also throw the entire house on PBJ, for one week while the ex's are there.

I'm sure there are many other ideas for twists, that you can think of... but I would like to see Amy with Krista or Curtis with Dave. I bet there would be more than a couple of them that would sign on... Marcellas for sure.