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Bastable

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 08:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yep-- that's the big secret of TVCH posting: Never make it personal. That's the Golden Rule. Opinons and actions can be dissected like cadavers, but people are untouchable. As GAL said once, if you find yourself typing the word "you" in your post, you're probably on the wrong track.

Llkoolaid

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 08:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually she did an amazing job of playing for 50 thousand, I am not so sure about the 500, but we shall see tomorrow night.

Crossfire

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 08:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Glad to be able to help out. It's the least I can do for my fellow TVCH citizens having explored most of the landmines around here. :)

Ali gets credit for exploring more of the game than probably any guest to date. Being a regular joe, being HOH, winning the veto, using the veto, being veto'd, sampled all the teams, and most of the guys (hehehe), laughed cried, spread sugar and spice.

The jury...that's going to be a very, very big hurdle.

Coffee

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 08:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Some of her actions were good game playing until she went too far with them. She resorted to vindictive and cruel sayings and actions and lost her good game playing from then on.

Coffee

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 08:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree the jury is a big hurdle but they do not know many of things that Ali did since it was not on the tapes.

Calgaryperson

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 08:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You guys have lots to say...
PLEASE POST IN THE 10,001 THREAD!!!!!
WE NEED TO GET THERE!
THIS IS URGENT!!!

Crossfire

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 08:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That's true, she may have overdone it with the spice, time will tell. They will probably all be cheesed off for a while once they get the full story. They usually get over it though.

Bastable

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 08:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yup... question is, will Puerto Vallarta have been enough to salve their wounds? Will she get the Dr. Will treatment...or the Danielle treatment?

Chippy

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 08:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Steve... former Pittsburgher here. I lived there for five years (from Phila originally). We spend a lot of time talking about missing all the different foods in Pittsburgh. They have ethnic neighborhoods all over and the best Asian food you've ever tasted. Primanti Brothers... oh, the memories! Fries right on your sammich!

I've been really surprised (and have paid great attention to) at Ali's accent or really lack thereof. Pittsburghese is quite the language. I'm a Yankee and still didn't understand half of what they said. While working as a nurse just after moving there, a coworker asked me to get her a face rag. HUH??? So, she says, you know- a worsh cloth. WORSH? I'll jes run dawntawn and pick some up for yinz. YIKES...

Of course, my husbands born and raised in Texas and you'd never know it by his accent. So...

I forget my point. Oh, well... it's late and I'm OLD.

Coffee

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 09:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wonder why Ali would say that about the food in Pittsburgh. Knowing the size of it I figured what she said could not be right but glad to hear from someone who has been there and knows.

Eliz87

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 07:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
And Chippy, I haven't heard Ali say "yuins" even once! Wonder if she's originally from PA?

Chippy

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 08:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, Eliz87, I wondered that as well. When I moved to Pittsburgh (after being in Texas for about 5 years), it was quite a cultural shock. There's actually websites about "Pittsburghese" that'll make you ROTF. They really, really do talk like that. I still keep in touch with some friends there and when I hear their voice on the phone, I bust out in a big ole grin. I love it. Pittsburgh is a great place to live.

BTW, I prefer yuins and youse guys to y'all. :)

Joesmom

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 11:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
AWWW, Chippy, "y'all" is such a friendly word...
signed,
A Girl from the South...

Steveh

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 11:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Chippy/Eliz 87, etc. - Meadville is about 90 miles from Pittsburgh, so maybe Ali grew up just outside the ARN triangle? Yep, she never said yunce once, and pronounced flower instead of flahr, tower instead of tahr, etc. Then there's the whole pop/soda controversy I don't even want to get into.

Chippy - I tell people about Primanti--all the side orders go ON the sandwich & one of the most popular sandwichs (esp. at 2 a.m.) is pastrami, fried egg, french fries and cole slaw, yep all between two giant slices of Italian bread--and they find it unappealing, generally. Oh well, I guess you had to be there.

I think Ali not knowing about much of Pittsburgh is fairly typical for the avg. college student who goes to school in a big city, but I thought ALL the college kids in P knew about some of the exellent and CHEAP Chinese noodle joints.

Steveh

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 11:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Also, Alison seems to be a jock, knows her football, etc. and I haven't heard her once mention the Ohio Valley's beloved STILLERS.

Chippy

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 11:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The Tree River Stadium Stillers? Right daun the street from S'Liberdy? And, how bout da Pens at the Igloo?

Man, I miss that...

Didn't Allison go to Pit?

Steveh

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 11:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yep, she went to Pitt, but I think the yunz, Stillers, etc. enunciations are instilled in one as a small child? LOL Also, some of her beauty pageant prep could've straightened out some of those pronunications? I don't think she'd score many points if she started one of her platfrom speeches (which were about domestic violence) "YUNZ don't know da tragedy caused by domestic violence. Why just recenlty one of the Pittsburgh Stillers was arrested right on Liberdy Avenue for swinging a tahr arn at his . . ."

Steveh

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 11:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
P.S. Stillers (and Pitt) now play in a beautiful retro-designed new stadium (Tree Rivers was torn dahn a while back) Heinz Field. There's a great triangle formed by HF, the new Pirates' stadium and The Andy Warhol Museum. LOL Visited all three last time I was in town.

Monalisahi

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 11:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Steveh,
I used to have a really bad drawl, so bad everybody around made fun of me for it. I sat and worked on it and got it to about 1/2 of what it originally was.

Now, when I'm conscious of it, I can still maintain it....along with using proper language.

If I ain't payin much attention to it, I slip right back into my ole ways.

BTW, it was about 22 yrs ago I worked on it.

Monalisahi

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 11:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Steveh,
I used to have a really bad drawl, so bad everybody around made fun of me for it. I sat and worked on it and got it to about 1/2 of what it originally was.

Now, when I'm conscious of it, I can still maintain it....along with using proper language.

If I ain't payin much attention to it, I slip right back into my ole ways.

BTW, it was about 22 yrs ago I began working on it.

Monalisahi

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 11:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hmmm, sorry about the double post.

It won't let me edit. Says I'm not allowed to that either I'm prevented by mod or I'm not the original poster.


HMMMM....maybe there is something to that "fav" conspiracy after all....lol

Steveh

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 11:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Mona - as at least a few others here can tell you, Pittsburghese is far more than a drawl or ungrammatical English. What am I saying? Ak shooly we went dahna strip.

There's a great website http://www.pittsburghese.com where one can learn how to speak it.

Monalisahi

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 12:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Steveh, noooooo, I don't want to learn it....lol. I was simply commenting on Ali being able to overcome it for pageants. At some point she should revert to it....or at least I do.

Steveh

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 12:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The thing is, Meadville may be far enough away where she never picked it up. I know people who lived closer than I to Pittsburgh that never spoke it; on the other hand, people in my hometown (which is actually in Ohio, 45 min. from Pitt.) did. I did spend many, many days in Pittsburgh growing up, usually when being in school was the option. Liberdy (Liberty) Ave. had lots of arcades, "art" cinemas, strip joints, etc. back in the day . . .LOL

The site is funny even if you don't actually want to "learn."

Smokey

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 01:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Steveh--where in Ohio? I'm in NE Ohio--20 minutes south of Akron.