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Shoegalnj

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 02:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Like Will from BB3 said, he was famous for fifteen minutes... at the Olive Garden. In Jun's case, I hope its McDonalds.

Jbfrommi

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 06:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I love this part!

"While Alison was a gracious loser, smiling and suggesting that she'd like to continue her friendship with Jun outside of the house, the winner can only offer a snort of derision."

heeheehee :)

Lori

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 07:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Jun is cute...in fact I think she is more attractive than Ali. Obviously Jun thinks she's cute as well! :)

Spunky

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 08:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You could tell she hated her last week with Ali, in a way I felt bad for Ali because Ali was really trying to make conversation with her persistent questions to Jun (almost forcing some comments out of Jun), this after the Q&A session.
So, I'm not surprized that Jun is not interested in keeping in touch with Ali, and by now Ali feels she doesn't want to see Jun either.
I made comments elsewhere that because no one prostrated at her feet she was upset.
Well, I was right.

Spunky

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 08:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I want to add that Jun should be more thankful to Ali, it was Ali who allowed her to win the big money in the end. She could have been a real evil and evict her but she kept her word.
Go tell Jun this on that CBS Chat.

Seanflynn2003

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 08:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Allison kept Jun because she believed the did not have a chance to beat Robert, not because she was doing Jun a favor. Had the situation been reversed, Jun would have done the same thing.

Allison as many of has have been saying for weeks had little or no chance of beating anyone in the house; Jun owes her no special thanks.

Chippy

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 08:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Sean. Plus, Jun could have easily won the last HOH. She gave that to Ali on a platter, I think to show that she trusted her completely and also knew that Ali knew she couldn't beat Robert. Course, I don't think Jun could've beat anyone but Ali either.

Seanflynn2003

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 08:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Also Jun and Allison had agreed to take each other to the final two. When Allison did this, she merely kept her word about what she would doing, and did what she thought was best for her chances for winning.
Getting special thanks for keeping your word doesn't make sense.

Spunky

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 08:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It doesn't matter, still Ali had the power to kick her out but did not. She should give Ali some consideration instead of "snorting in derision" when talking of Ali.

Auntiemike

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 08:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Jun had an amazing ability to detach herself from others and stay focused on playing the game. I can't help but think that she knew totally what she was doing and that it would not be perceived as very nice. Ali, on the other hand, also had a dishonrable way of behaving but that appears to be her general code of conduct to get what she wants and she sees nothing wrong with it. It might just boil down to a maturity level. Both behaved badly, just one did it more maturely. Does that make any sense at all??? I'm really trying here to see a difference between these two and to "justify" that Jun was a little more deserving of the win. Forgive me.

Spunky

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 08:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Auntie, Jun's is the winner but to that it's attached "the lesser of two evils" title, so in a way it's like being rewarded for being less evil than Ali. Certainly nothing to be proud of...

Eeyoreslament

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 10:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Does anyone think there is merit to the fact that Jun could be considered very beautiful in NYC? I think the diversity of people that is available in bigger cities accounts for the reason Jun feels so good about herself.

I honeslty think (please no one get offended at this) that the Southern states and smaller towns all like that gross American ideal of fake blonde hair, blue eyes, lots of hairspray, tennis-playing, pageant-queen, Mary-Kay salesgirl look. I'm from Canada, and I used to work at a bar that served all the American tourists, and I've had many a conversations with the drunk college frat boy about this. They like the Alison types, and I still think there is a level of subconscious racism still lurking in some of the less "enlightened" areas of the States.

Jun is beautiful in many ways. I loved her humour, when it wasn't malicious. Her personality was sexy initially. While she has a propensity to gain weight, I'd rather a chubby wife, than one with rotten teeth from her bulima problem, and fried dry frizzy hair from too much peroxide, and a thick, cakey layer of makeup that can't let her hug me too close for fear of it wiping on my shirt. Blegh.
So many guys in my city have the Asian fetish. They choose Asian women hands down over white chicks. I think that comes with the availability of various cultures in the bigger cities.

Look at where Nathan was from. Oklahoma is the land of the blonde-haired, blue-eyed ideal. Not exactly the immigration mecca for Asians. I think it's just Nate did't find her attractive because he hasn't learned to see the beauty in all cultures and races. He's still into the blonde girly-girls.

I'm not a racist. I'm not slagging Americans. I KNOW there are a few brunettes and even some Asians in Oklahoma too. Please only respond if you have something other than those responses.

Cliotheleo

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 10:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Eeyore, while I don't like to speak in generalities, I live in the South and have lived in a small town and with people from small towns so I think I can more accurately say.............


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Dke1212

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 10:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Haven't read all posts but I do have to agree with Jun about Nathan. When he said Alisons name, i thought alot more than what a "fool", which I can't say here. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, that's for sure.

Cliotheleo

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 10:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Or you could look at it from the perspective that he was loyal to her til the very end and in spite of it all.

(sorry, but I always have to look for the positive side of things :) )

Monalisahi

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 10:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Eeyore....naw, I disagree. I will agree that women from the south like big hair and make-up, but I think that's gone for the younger group since that style is gone. I don't know understand why you even mention bulimia, is that a southern thing??? Ali was far from being bulimic. I thought blonde hair and blue eyes would be more stereotypical of Californians.

I have heard of men who prefer Asian women, and I always thought it was because of their petiteness.....and possibly a link to geisha.

Dke1212

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 10:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i also think Jun is attractive, and never understood the bashing she took for her looks. She may not be the skinniest girl around but she definately is not fat. I liked her sense of humor as well. Yes she said some things that were a little to mean at times, but I wanted her to win from way back and I'm glad she did.

Dke1212

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 10:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Clio I tend to look at the positive side also but in this case I'll stick with my orignal thought.

Demsome

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 10:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, What Dke1212 said!!!

Eeyoreslament

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 07:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Monalisa, good point about the geisha connection. On a side note, if anyone wants to read a GREAT book, read Arthur Golden's 'Memoirs of a Geisha'. Amazing read.

As for the blonde californian thing, I have to disagree with you there. Californians are all about fake boobies and Botox!! Hair color no longer matters.

I never meant to imply that eating disorders are a Southern thing. One of those things you learn in hindsight. I just thought at the time it went with the vanity thing. My bad.

Monalisahi

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 07:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Eeyore...about the bulimia. I guess I was wondering why your choices were chubby vs bulimic. Instead of chubby vs slender.......or....grossly obese vs bulimic. Basically, I guess I could ask if you would prefer grossly obese (500 lbs) or slender (110-120 lbs)? Understand what I'm saying?

Zachsmom

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 07:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am from California and have real boobs and no botox!!!!

Woodpecke®

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 07:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"I am from California and have real boobs and no botox!!!!" (I love it when we get the juicy tidbits without having to dig for them).

Seanflynn2003

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 08:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
juicy tidbits or t#tbits Woodpecker?

Lurknomore

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 08:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Once upon a time I worked with the "big boys" in NY. Trust me...Jun would have been walked past without a second glance. The only thing I'll give her is she does have the 'tude. LA is casual...NY (especially the city) is about is designer clothes, makeup, always looking good. It's about a style and flair I never saw Jun actually possess, just fake. (The closest she came was the MTV awards except that wasn't Jun or her clothes...a CBS stylist put her together). There is a huge difference.