Archive through September 26, 2003
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Archive through September 26, 2003
Pascalle | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 05:07 pm     Sweetpea, you sound like your name sweet. But in tv board rooms everything is upside down and slightly twisted. The idea is to be as shocking as possible and still get on the air in prime time. Why you ask? Cable. The 3 major networks are now competing with cable who have the Sopranos, Oz, ect. These shows can use any words they like at any time. This is why CBS was probably delighted with Jun and Ali. Look for more outrageous house guests next year. |
Sweetpea1994 | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 05:10 pm     If they were so delighted as you say, why not air the comments? |
Monalisahi | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 05:12 pm     Immunity_Man, please tell me you aren't serious. It was obvious that Erika was angry and spouting off due to Jee's ACTIONS. It's not like she started trashing him without even having met him......oh wait, that was Jun and Ali in their attacks against Elena. Well, it's not like she said Asians shouldn't even be educated.......oh wait, that was Jee talking about women. OK, it's not like she made fun of the entire race for their dancing......oh wait, that was Jun. Was she even making fun of the way he spoke? OH WAIT, that was Justin and Jun. Oh and Jun also made fun of Robert's speech. Why are you singling out Erika? |
Pascalle | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 05:17 pm     Sweetpea. They could not air most JUN and Ali's comments probably because of the CBS censors. On cable there are no censors. Also I refer back to Erika not giving them what she promised in her audtion tape. It was payback. CBS was not unhappy with Jun and Ali, they probably were with Erika. My guess is they thought she was boring and expected alot more from her and didn't get it so they got her on the final show. |
Hummingbird | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 05:22 pm     Erika was mad and forgot for a moment that she was being taped. It wasn't that big of deal. Jee can just get over it. I heard worse from him. (Yes, there are worse things than mentioning someone's race in anger.) I'm not excusing it but I can't get all that worked up about it either. |
Earthmother | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 05:23 pm     Why is it that when someone makes one mistake and gets called on it and then apologizes (publicly, on National TV, to the person she said it about)gets a whole thread dedicated to her misdeed weeks after the sin? The only Koreans who heard the comment would be the same Koreans who heard the apology, so what is the issue? Hasn't she already done what is now being asked of her? |
Woodpecke® | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 05:24 pm     CBS wanted fun bags. They didn't get fun bags. They also got the twitching guy with the dirty finger. Not a bargain. |
Earthmother | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 05:28 pm     Then they need to quit shopping at the Dollar Store!!! |
Woodpecke® | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 05:30 pm     Most of these houseguests were found in Goodwill dumpsters. |
Sweetpea1994 | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 06:14 pm     ROFL @ Earthmother!!! |
Immunity_Man | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 06:16 pm     Well as a minority, I was hugely offended by that comment. I didn't post anything about it when she first said it because I wanted to see how she would handle it when he confronted her. IMO she failed to show true remorse. To me it would have been better to just call him a piece os s**t and leave it at that. But I felt Jee's pain when he heard that comment. He took alot in that house, but obviously that was the one that really hurt. I truly think Erika has some deep-seeded issues. I know she was mad, but when you put a tea bag in hot water you see what really comes out of it. I found her apology to be disingenuous. |
Earthmother | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 06:31 pm     Well, Immunity Man I didn't see Jee own up to his comment about all women and be forced to publicly apologize. As a woman did it occur to you that his comment might have offended me? At least she was big enough to admit she was wrong, whether you think it was sincere or not. Obviously you don't think all Latins deserve an apology after the Cuban remarks from Ali and Jun. You also don't seem to have a problem with Robert and Justin for teasing Jee about the way he talks (which could be construed as teasing the Asian boy). So what is your real problem with Erika? Maybe if you get to the root of that question a little objectivity will surface. You are not going to get people on this board to pick one hg to persecute unless everyone of them goes on the chopping block. |
Monalisahi | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 06:39 pm     Immunity...exactly why were you offended? What part of it was directed toward you? |
Grooch | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 06:47 pm     Immunity_Man, I do agree with you about Ericka's apology. I didn't feel it was sincere either. But in all honesty, how can it be, when you are caught off guard at what is supposed to a happy occassion and you are accused on live, national tv that you are a racist? I can forgive her because it seemed like it was a high tension situation (the live show and the winner was about to be announced) she had just seen the tapes that day (that is what I understood of the HGs getting to view them) She was probably shocked at things she heard about herself and focused more on that then on what she did say. (only natural) No time to decompress and spend time after 3 months without friends or family, and she is told to act happy for the show, and then she gets blindsided with being called a racist and put on the spot to apologize right then and there. That really wasn't fair. Ericka should have been allowed a one on one conversation with Jee and discuss it between them before hand. CBS pulled a fast one on her. To be honest, I really have no idea what Ericka thinks or if she is truly remorseful. It truly was a crappy way CBS handled it and I do believe they were singling her out. |
Kitty | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 06:48 pm     Sorry I found Ali & Jun's comments regarding cubans & homosexuals just horrible, and they said them many, many times. Erika said her comment once, and out of anger. Which she has appologized for. I have yet to see Ali or Jun say the are sorry for what they have said in the house. In fact they have said many times, they are not sorry for what they did in the house. So her one comment is worse then the Ali and Juns several? I dont think so. I think CBS was being biased and not showing all the comments. Btw, I am a immigrant living in Canada, and I am more disgusted with Ali & Jun then I am with Erika's one-time comment. Kitty |
Earthmother | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 06:57 pm     Kitty, they are all wrong. The degree of evil of an inappropriate comment depends on who is grading it. I am sure that Asians find Erika's comment worse than Robert's, Ali's and Jun's comments. I am sure that Latins found Ali and Jun's comments worse than Erika's, Robert's or Jee's. I am sure women found Robert's and Jee's comments worse than any of the others, and I am sure mothers found Jun and Ali's comments to be the absolute worst of all. If we were really being fair we would see them all as being unacceptable and not singling out one as the worst. |
Kitty | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 07:11 pm     Maybe we should go by a number system... How many times did Erika say... How many times did Jun & Ali say.... How many times did Robert & Jee say... The one with the most despicable remarks wins! Oh wait that happened Wednesday night! Oh well, lets hope that BB5 is better! Kitty |
Grooch | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 07:32 pm     Earthmother, I agree. |
Csnog | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 07:37 pm     BB is a class in Sociology. We observe, and hopefully learn from watching chosen HG's compromise themselves and others for the love of money and a little fame. All is not happy in the little house on the lot or we would not watch it. We get to see the good, the bad and the ugly. We come here to criticize, blast, moan, condemn, express disdain and love for our extended TV family. Sometimes we even have fun. Are we outraged towards them at times? Yes. The hardest part is to not take it personal. Not to hate the HG's as people. Is it possible? For some it is and for some it's not. |
Meggieprice | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 07:41 pm     I keep popping up to say- Erika heard an Asian say the very same words-both Jun and Jee said similar things. It was a nasty and ignorant remark but not necessarily representative of Erika's feelings towards Asians because, and I am serious about this: If Erika was truly racist towards Asians then Erika would NOT have voted for Jun! |
Puzzled | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 07:44 pm     It is somewhat strange to expect an apology to all Asians. She specifically referred to Koreans--guess what--all Asians are not the same! Lumping all Asians together is somewhat offensive. Anyway, she apologised, so I wish everyone would just get over it. |
Woodpecke® | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 07:55 pm     Nice shot, Puzzled. That was a gold star reply. |
Grooch | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 08:05 pm     I am in a conspiratist mood right now, so forgive me. For all we know, she might have truly apologized to Jee, privately, about it after watching the tapes. And then CBS played it up on the live show anyway to get some "shocking" video tape for the show. This better explains her reaction I saw on the tv, then anything else. |
Puzzled | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 08:18 pm     Thanks, Woodpecker, that means a lot, because I think your posts are super-terrific! |
Woodpecke® | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 08:23 pm     I love your too. Lumping all Asians. Geez. |
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