C1mag | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 05:26 pm     No matter what it is I still think it's a great way to start the show..... Look at how many posts this thread has!! This season is gonna be great! |
Laisey | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 05:31 pm     This is just a guess, but I expect the commercial scheduling was done by CBS a while ago. And as Wilson said, it's a holiday weekend so whoever would make the decision to pull or change the commercial probably isn't around. I don't know if it could be edited or not; it will still have to fit the same number of minutes and seconds. Too, it may not really matter. They're adcvertising to the TV audience, most of whom are probably not spending every waking moment searching for any little BB tidbit they can find and would have no idea Brandon is no longer around. |
Laisey | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 05:38 pm     I thought there was something in the works when the original ads said 13 new faces, not 13 new HGs. I was more convinced after AS statements about possibly one not being there after the first show. But if there is/was something planned, I really don't think this is it. Pulling a stunt like that just doesn't make sense to me on a holiday weekend. |
Texannie | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 05:42 pm     I have to agree with Laisey, it just doesn't seem like Arnie's usual self to do a stunt and run the risk that it won't get alot of press. |
Tabbyking | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 05:48 pm     actually, i think it might get more viewers for the first show, who might then become hooked. i know many people who weren't going to watch this year and now some of them are going, 'what's with this? now i have to watch to see what's happening!' most anything BB does get big press, especially as the houseguests are supposedly entering the house. if this had happened two weeks prior, it wouldn't have been news, because they would have brought in an alternate. or alter nut......get rid of the show alter nut, and put in his alter nut. you can bet A.S. will go with whatever works best for him. "uh, yeah, like that's my story and, until like something better comes along, i'm like sticking with it!! |
Laisey | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 05:56 pm     I don't want it to be a publicity stunt because I want AS's plans for today to have been as messed up as much as mine were. I must learn to stay away from here if I have anything I want to do. |
C1mag | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 05:57 pm     How could it not get press? It's actually perfect timing. The day before the show airs ET and every gossip show in town is gonna jump on this. 24 hours of speculative press where Arnie plays dumb and the anticipation builds. I actually think pulling it off on the weekend is brilliant. It's like doing it right under someones nose and then playing dumb 24 hours before air time while the gossip shows eat it up. Interesting that someone was around to get rid of the mans pic practically the second he was booted. On a Saturday night/early Sunday morning? Don't forget that the most powerful weapon today is the Internet. It's not like he's ever going to say... "uh yeah, I had this planned all along so that within 24 hours of the first live show I can have the tv fans waiting in anticipation to see what "went wrong" |
Sanfranjoshfan | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 06:01 pm     I agree Laisey...I don't think this has anything to do with the AS remark that someone might leave on the first show. Sometimes a coincidence is just a coincidence. Besides, why would the tv viewers even care that some stranger that they don't know is not going to be on a show that hasn't even started, so that he is going to remain a stranger that they don't know?
(Of course, that doesn't hold true for us BB obsessed "300 lb internet nerds"!) |
C1mag | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 06:01 pm     I guess I'm saying... Someone was destined to be "pulled" before they even entered the house and somehow the whole "ex's" thing is going to play a part in it to get the ball rolling. |
Therlin | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 06:02 pm     I work in a multimedia production department (dvd, streaming video, cd-roms, web databases, etc). Editing Brandon out of the commercial and extending the promo to the same length wouldn't take more than 30 minutes to any skilled editor. You also need to take the old commercial off the rotation and get the new one added. Also, does the add need to be sent to all the CBS affiliates over the weekend and inform them that this one should be run instead of the old one? Ugh. And doing all of this on a 3-day weekend is not easy. This is weekend when lots of people take extra vacation and places are run by interns and other skeleton crew. And this happened last night I believe. It's tough. The show starts on Tuesday, I doubt that the spot will be edited. Maybe pull, but I doubt that they'll go through the trouble just for 24 hrs. I'm sure that re-editing the opening sequence with the new HG (if Brandon is substituted) as well as the bio shown on the first show, will be their #1 priority. |
C1mag | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 06:10 pm     Why would some tv viewers even care that some stranger that they didn't know is not going to be on a show that hasn't even started? Ahem.. Now thats funny! Proven fact that scandal on a reality show produces ratings. It doesn't matter if you know the person or not. Just mention that a contestant has been evicted from the house before the show has begun it's fourth season and you've generated interest. Like I said it works well for the show just before it begins. I'm looking forward to it. |
Bettyrubble | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 06:13 pm     Over at http://www.bb4bbq.com/ there's an article that they've talked with Brandon today. To summarize, he can't say anything yet but is putting together an article to post on Wednesday. As spamgirl said "By Wednesday, will anyone give a shiP (modded by me) about Brandon anymore?" Check out the link. |
Pamy | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 06:14 pm     I know I will be telling everyone at work tomarrow what happened on the net over the weekend, think of how many others will do the same thing. So even if ET/others don't report on it , all of us sure will. |
C1mag | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 06:16 pm     Hey Therlin if you were sitting at a table Monday wouldn't you suggest running the ad's with Brandon still in them? I mean lets face it the man is gonna make both women and men drool so why not now capitalize on him for 24 hours. It's just a thought. Thats what I was saying earlier. Even if it wasn't planned ( however I still think someone was gonna get pulled before the show started) wouldn't it be wise to turn it into a product of publicity for the show? |
Therlin | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 06:19 pm     C1, I wouldn't do anything. I wouldn't tell them to run it more often, nor take it off rotation. Leave it as is, the show will begin in 24 hrs so who cares. My guess is that this wasn't planned and that they kept it around for a few days in case they couldn't find someone. They did so he is out. I'll say that we'll see 13 people on Tuesday. |
C1mag | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 06:20 pm     You mean the man is free but has to wait until after the first show airs in order to give his side of the story? |
Sanfranjoshfan | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 06:20 pm     It just seems to me that if they wanted a scandalous type stunt to generate interest, they would not simply remove all traces of it from their web site with no mention of why he left, or even that he had left. Has anybody seen any mention of Brandon's removal from the show anywhere at all ...other than on a BB fan site? |
C1mag | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 06:22 pm     I say wait til tomorrow to see if there is any gossip generated for it. They've given themselves 24 hours to get the ball rolling. Lets sit back and have fun and see how they deal with it on Monday when the gossip shows are on the air. |
C1mag | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 06:27 pm     Therlin: You think that they sequestered more than 13 people? Because how could the go back to an alternate at the last minute and replace him since it was revealed I think on the 3rd that "the twist" was the "ex" factor and they wanted to keep all hg's oblivious to it. Do they sequester alternates for the show as well? I would think since this twist was to be a secret it would have been impossible to call someone after the third and say, "Hey you made it to BB" and if they did have alternates sequestered that is a bit strange as well. Especially since they also published 9 of the names on the third and said 4 of those have "ex's" coming in. Man this is gonna be interesting. |
Laisey | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 06:30 pm     Whether or not there is anything on CBS's Morning Show tomorrow might give some indication. Not that I'll see it since our local CBS station interrupts every 10 minutes for 10 minutes of local news and commercials for the first hour. |
Dee | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 06:33 pm     I was at Sir Links-a-lot's site and clicked on the link that spoke of Brandon being kicked out. Here's an update: "Since this story was posted there have been several changes to Brandon's website. To read the thread of all of the changes go to our partner site www.bb4bbq.com . But it appears as I have read the different posts he has put up that he is actually the chatter from last night and faced with possible legal repercussions for speaking out so quickly he backpedaled as many of us would. It seems as though he has been using his home page as a sounding board and is constantly modifying it." When I first heard about Brandon leaving, I wondered if the reason why was because Arnold wasn't sure if Brandon got through to the girlfriend and found out about the "X" twist... so AS assumed the worst and kicked him out. Perhaps he wanted to make sure Brandon wouldn't tell the other houseguests before they were supposed to find out. But I read in this thread that Julie is going to tell the guests about the twist the first night so what would be the big deal about Brandon finding out sooner? |
C1mag | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 06:40 pm     Laisey very good point. Thats Julies turf isn't it? I'd suppose if they wanted to get the ball rolling they'd have Julie pilot it on the morning show. |
Laisey | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 06:40 pm     C1mag, It might not be that difficult. All they would have to do is instruct the alternate to keep his/her mouth shut. My understanding is that the HGs don't meet until they go into the house. The first nine go in, the ex's arrive about 2 hours later and sometime in that 2 hours the first nine are to have been told that some of their ex's are coming. All the alternate would have to do is keep quiet for those two hours. I am pretty sure of one thing; and that is whatever happens someone on this board will have thought of it. |
Therlin | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 06:42 pm     C1, I do not know if alternates are also sequestered (I doubt it). What I do know is that BB always has alternates (even though BBUS has never used them). |
Tishala | Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 06:47 pm     I'm sorry, but I can't go over to that bb4bq site...it makes me feel like an adultress! |