An article about Alison from the Meadville Tribune
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Wendo | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 03:18 pm     Seamonkey, I hope they'll be honest in private too. And, I do agree, it may likely not come from her parents. But, a good friend or other relative. On another note, I should've been clearer about the "state of our glasses". It wasn't about your post, but the overall feeling I'm reading on the board that Ali will never wise up, etc. I prefer to think that she will. That BB opened a door and she'll choose to walk through it. So, wasn't assuming a bit about you. |
Luvmyjrt | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 03:23 pm     OK -- here I go opining! First off, I am absolutely flabbergasted that Ali had 50 supporters. I watched last night not knowing who they would pick. That in and of itself was disturbing. There was no "clear winner" here, just two very egotistical and socially backwards young women. Ali looked almost pleased with the nasty remarks sent her way (when she didn't look like the crown was resting oh so delicately on her head) and Jun looked like a petulant little girl who really didn't give a rats behind what anyone thought of her because she knew she was rolling in dough. This was not a reflection of reality tv, it was a reflection of what the youth of America believe to be the best way to get ahead. I am truly convinced that How to Win Friends and Influence People must have been a banned book in their schools. It was disgusting, boring and more importantly degrading to the (thank God!) average American woman. Let's hope next year Central Casting puts integrity above jiggle when deciding on the next cast. Only good thing that came from Big Brother is that I found TVCH and a place where people truly value each others opinions. For that I will be eternally greatful! 'Nuf Said -- on to SURVIVOR! |
Tishala | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 03:50 pm     I'm love that Meadville has an "Italian" Club. LOL. |
Steveh | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 04:29 pm     Wendo - that's exactly what you wrote to me. Exactly. Others will testify in my behalf? I got the implication that you thought I was b s–ing. Yoiu've already told me that you forgot another of your posts to me--the one where you claimed that when I wrote LOL I didn't mean it; your observation, in this case, was very startling b/c it was the first post I had ever done at TVCH. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 04:59 pm     I honestly do wish Ali had a mentor. Not Erika. Not Jun but some dynamite woman who can help Ali to channel all that energy and determination. She deserves the help. I did like that Jun told her repeatedly that she really should go to grad school. Hopefully Jun will also now finish her degree as well. |
Cameramanbob | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 05:12 pm     From CBS BB4 "Parting Words": ALI'S What was your first reaction when you saw Justin walk in the House? Oh, I was like, "Damn, that hurt! I might have just become single." That was what I was thinking. Did you play the game as you hoped you would, or did the ex-factor change your strategy? No, I went in playing how I had hoped. I knew there wasn't going to be that much that could throw me off my track so I was prepared for anything. Is there anything that you would have done differently? No, I think I did well. What personality trait is important for being in the BIG BROTHER House? I would have to say you have to be manipulative. That has to be the most important for this game. Looking back, is there anyone you wish you had formed an alliance with? No. Which alliance do you think was the strongest? Jun and I had the strongest alliance. Which HouseGuest was the greatest threat to you, and why? Dana was the biggest threat to me, because she came after me. She told me she wanted to punch me in the face, but we won't go there. She was the biggest threat. What was your favorite moment in the BIG BROTHER House? Walking out that door a couple of minutes ago and seeing my parents. What did you think about when Jun went to the MTV Video Music Awards? I was like, "There had better be some red carpet that I can walk on, because this is not fair!" [laughs] What will you miss most about being in the House? I will miss being lazy, and not really having anything to do. No schedule, no one to guide me--I could do my own thing. Did you think having an ex in the House was an advantage or disadvantage? For me it was an advantage because he and I formed a non-scoping alliance, and because it was a HouseGuest I knew, I kind of knew his personality, I knew his traits, I knew his weaknesses, so I walked all over him. What advice would you give to future BIG BROTHER HouseGuests? Lie! Lie your face off. Lie, make sure your alliance lies for you, make sure everyone lies for you, otherwise you're not getting any money. What are your plans after BIG BROTHER is over? I just want to call up my boyfriend and be with him. I'm also doing an episode of YES, DEAR. JUN's What was your first reaction when you saw Jee walk in the House? My first reaction was, "I am very angry." I was angry because I felt like Jee was stealing my spotlight; this was supposed to be my thing. I had been really trying to get rid of him, and he was out of my life for a good three years, and he just popped right in to my show. Is there anything that you would have done differently, even having won the game? I think I did a great job playing the game. I regret having had some confrontations with people. Not because I feel bad as a person, but because I think people got to see the nasty side of Jun sooner than I wanted them to. What do you think is the most difficult aspect of being in the BIG BROTHER House? No privacy, no contact with the outside world, bright lights all the time--a number of things. You never sleep comfortably because you have to sleep with one eye open. What was your first reaction when you were told you'd be going to the MTV Video Music Awards? First of all, just getting out of the House was something I never thought would happen, and so I was so happy I think tears started forming in my eyes. Then when I found out I was going to New York, that was even better, then when I found out it was the VMAs, I was dumbfounded. I just couldn't believe it was happening to me, so when they led me out and it was for real, I had to have someone pinch me. Was it hard not to tell your friends you were in New York? It was horribly hard because where I was staying for the event was literally 20 blocks from work, 20 blocks from home, 40 blocks from my parents' house. If I had picked up the phone I could have been talking to someone, and I couldn't let anyone know where I was. What personality trait do you think you have to have to win the game? You definitely have to be numb to people stabbing you in the back. You can't come in here naïve; you have to be very, very worldly. Which HouseGuest was the greatest threat to you? The biggest threat to me was Alison, and that's why I needed to align with her. What was your favorite moment in the BIG BROTHER House? I think my favorite moment was when I ate all the gefilte fish in time during the clambake. What do you think you'll miss most about the House? Security, stability, knowing that I'm on some sort of schedule. In the outside world, the craziness is what I've always loved, but now that I'm going to be thrown back into it, I might want to crawl back in the House. Was cooking part of your strategy to win? Cooking was a huge part of my strategy to win, because I was able to get people on my good side, and also to make people feel like I was always there. They didn't have to worry about food or groceries, or know where to put what. I took on a lot of the burden that would have been split up between three or four people. Who were your favorite and least favorite HouseGuests? I think Justin was my favorite HouseGuest because he really cleaned up after himself, he was funny, he was always respectful to me. My least favorite would probably be Nathan. Boys will be boys, but he was a boy, and he did not clean up after himself, and he was rude and did not help around the House at all. What advice would you give to future BIG BROTHER HouseGuests? Make sure you know that you're giving up a lot of rights, and I'm not just talking about privacy. People will say bad things about you, people will stab you in the back, they will betray you, they'll lie to your face. Just be ready for all that and make sure you can do it yourself, otherwise don't walk in that door. What are your plans now that BIG BROTHER is over, and what will you do with the money? I am going to look into buying an apartment. Nothing too extravagant, just something that I'll be happy with, with plenty of closet space. I'm going to probably go shopping, take a little vacation, a real one, and then try to open up a business. *** Mods please delete this if it is an inappropriate post - thank you **** |
Earthmother | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 05:40 pm     Do you think Ali's hometown used to be called "Stepford?" |
Bonzacat | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 06:02 pm     Earthmother, I bow to your sense of humor... thank you! |
Coffee | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 06:34 pm     If I was from Meadville and Ali's mother taught my children I would pull them from the class. |
Pghparrothead | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 06:50 pm     Being a Pittsburgher with a summer home close to Meadville, I have to defend those of us who are not anything like Ali. I think she is still young enough that she will hopefully wise up but I think her behavior was horrible, not that Jun was any better. It's a shame when when these people feel they must degrade others to make themselves feel better. I MISS WILL! He may not have been honest but he was funny and kept me laughing all season. This year, besides Dave, they were all pretty much duds. |
Appletalk | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 06:57 pm     It is no wonder that Ali is the way she is (mean, selfish and on and on and on) when she has friends and family that allow her to think that her actions were not only acceptable but admirable. And it is amazing that they support her by saying that the jury and others who dare not support her do so only because they are jealous. |
Wendo | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 07:42 pm     Steveh, I never said, "claimed to be some sort of journalist," about you. Period. From Ali's Final Words: "What are your plans after BIG BROTHER is over? I just want to call up my boyfriend and be with him. I'm also doing an episode of YES, DEAR." Is this true or a joke that she's going to be on YES, DEAR? Anyone have further information about this? |
Biloxibelle | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 07:43 pm     Oh my Earthmother I was in here earlier and was going to post almost the same thing. That Meadsville must be somewhere on the map between Stepford and Harper Valley. Not to insult all the the other good people that live there just Alis little corner. Anyway I got busy with dinner and such and when I popped back here I saw your post. This creeps me out I haven't thought about Stepford in years and then to think it and see it posted all in the same night well, I think I will skip the housecleaning tommorrow LOL |
Charvie | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 07:44 pm     I saw it on the cbs site. so I don't think it was a joke. Apparently they approached Alison with the idea right after the finale last night, and she agreed to do it. |
Bonzacat | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 07:47 pm     Wendo, "Yes, Dear" is going to film an episode in the BB house with Hardy & Will. Here is a link to an article about it, but it does not mention Alison. http://www.mortystv.com/cgi-bin/frameit/directframe.cgi?4=http://ydr.com/story/main/13620/ |
Wendo | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 08:03 pm     Charvie and Bonzacat, thanks for providing additional info! Much appreciated. |
Magicjet | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 08:42 pm     New poster. Hope I can say I liked Ali. I did not care for the other HGs and I also wondered where Jun's parents were on the final night. |
Azriel | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 08:47 pm     You can say you liked her, Magic, just don't expect too many people to agree with you I think the producers thought it would be better to have Bob there than Jun's boring parents. Jun told Julie Chen that her parents were busy, whatever that means. |
Crossfire | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 08:47 pm     Hi Magicjet. Not only can you post and say you like Ali, we have a whole thread for like thinkers. That way you have the option venture out into the world of debate, and see if you can't buy her a shoulder to lean on, or if that is too much you can hang out in her fan thread, and the people there would probably love to have some friends. Find them, follow them out into the wider area, and maybe help them out. From either an article, or interview, I read that Jun indicated her parents were busy, but sent their support through another relative. |
Monalisahi | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 09:06 pm     OK, what confrontations did Jun have? I know the "joking" ones with Jee, and the thing with Nate, well, I wouldn't consider that a confrontation where people saw the nasty side. Jun, worldly???? okkkkkk And talk about cleaning up after themselves, anybody see that house this last week? And then there's this: Make sure you know that you're giving up a lot of rights..... People will say bad things about you, people will stab you in the back, they will betray you, they'll lie to your face. What does this have to do with your rights??? Where do people get that she's so intelligent? Oh maybe it was when she said Ali had a "photogenic" memory.....rofl. |
Pixieduster | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 09:26 pm     Amazing - Yes, Dear is a show with young children. And they want to have Ali on their show? Bet she'll be calling them all names before she's finished on the set. CBS and the casting folks should be checking out some of these threads and doing a temperature taking of how she's being viewed. While I know there are Ali supporters and fans out there, I believe those on the other side of the fence outnumber them. Wonder what kind of feedback they'll get. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 09:28 pm     She had a major confrontation with Scott early on that I gather was quite unpleasant and Robert also lashed out at her in front of everyone, then later apologized. Jun herself confronted a few people in a "get real" sort of way. Erika a couple of times. I think that is what she means. I think pretty much everyone agreed that Nate was a pig, would just grab anyone's towel and use it, left stuff all over the place, etc. Jun was far from alone in that assessment. |
Seanflynn2003 | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 09:36 pm     On Jun's parents not being there - Of the 13 original house guests, how many of theirs would have come? Allison's did, Michelle's likely, Nathan's maybe. But would have Robert's, Erika's, Dana's? Scott's, Amanda's, Justin's? Jee's mother? David's? My guess is a majority would not have been there. She is a 28 yo woman. |
Eliz87 | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 09:37 pm     Mike "Boogie" had a guest spot on "Yes, Dear" as well. Anyone remember that? It was just a few lines. I'm not sure why CBS makes that particular show its target for BB contestants. |
Woodpecke® | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 09:38 pm     Good point, Sean. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 09:41 pm     Seanflynn, good point.. I do think Erika's mother would have come for her. I was also thinking how people last night were ragging on Jun and Ali for running to see their families, but I know Jee would have been even faster if Carmen was out there, or Robert if he knew Elena was outside.. and I'd hope others would feel that way about seeing family. I think they have the cast party on Saturday so there will be time to mingle. |
Monalisahi | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 10:31 pm     Sean....good point, but I guess it's because I'm so close with my family. If my daughter was gone for 3 months, I definitely wouldn't be "busy" when she got out. |
Shoegalnj | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 02:27 am     50 people showed up? Must have been FREE wings that night. |
R151996 | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 03:04 am     Steveh, the article did refute your assertion that Ali relinquished her crown and had to have it restored. She served her full year, just not making public appearances for the two month period mentioned. That confirms my point since she crowned her own successor--that would not have been permitted otherwise. Had she been convicted she certainly would have had her title removed. And shoegalnj, it's called true friendship--not a difficult concept to comprehend. |
Queenfish | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 06:18 am     Shoegalnj, good one. roflmbo Thanks for the laugh. Steveh-I looked to see if you had a folder in the members room, but couldn't find one. So, I will talk to you here. I find your post very interesting and I am sorry some folks seem to rag on you so much. I like that we have so many colorful people here at tvch with an abundance of opinions. We all come from different walks of life and if we were all cut from the same mold, It would be a much less interesting world to live in wouldn't it? I would so love to read some of you articles , if you could dirrect me to them. Thanks for voicing your opinions, I love to read everyones post, even though I don't allways agree with them. |
Chippy | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 07:43 am     Steve, I was planning on going back to the links you posted to read your articles and then couldn't find them again. I thought I must be looking in the wrong place and there were so many active threads. No wonder I couldn't locate them. I started posting just after reading exactly the thread you address here and I remember it as you do. Thanks, Cameraman, for posting those interviews. Very telling of what we already knew IMO. And, I think it answers the question, "did they learn anything". YIKES. |
Steveh | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 12:55 pm     R151966 - okay, she didn't relinquish her crown, she just couldn't do anything for two months that would indicate that she held the crown, b/c she had been arrested by the Pitt campus police over far more than an "argument." As to her being subsequently convicted of the charges, did you investigate what happened afterwards? I did. She wasn't found "not guilty." Also, she LIED when she gave up the second crown--the one she won right before the show--claiming a death in the family. IMO, you are splitting hairs regarding the first crown she had step away if not down from. She was, in fact, ARRESTED while she was serving as Miss whatever. I'm sure the pageant directors and the judges who voted for her were thrilled by that? Chippy and Queenfish, my email address is hesske@msun.edu & I will be glad to direct you to some pieces of mine that are still on the web. I did not pursue a story about Alison--too depressing and, ultimately, boring b/c there are SO many clueless young people like her. What's "new" or even of feature interest about that? Plus, the more I learned about Ali--not much of it rendered here b/c enough is enough & much of it I couldn't triple-source or, when I had it multi-sourced, people wouldn't speak on the record, fearing the litigous Mr. Irwin--the sadder everything became for me. I took no pleasure in realizing what a pathetic person she seems to be. Wendo -- Well, who said it then? If I was going to make up something that you allegedly said about me I would have said that you called me a pervert or a molester or a f*g, used one of your heroine's tactics. But if you insist--I will withdraw my claim. Someone did write that though and the implication was strong that I was not telling the truth in my answer to your question about why I was so "odd" and "obsessive" (that was you, right?), even though I had provided, I believe, six links to substantiate my "claim" that I was "some sort of journalist." Those words are someone else's, not yours apparently and certainly not mine. |
Wendo | Friday, September 26, 2003 - 05:34 pm     Steveh, I have no idea who said it. I do recall reading it, but as I've repeatedly said, I did not write that specific post. I do admit (and have subsequently apologized for, twice) to the "odd and obsessive" remarks. I don't know why you insist on continuing to refer to them, however, since I have apologized for said comments. Perhaps they still bother you, I don't know. I've apologized, there's nothing more I can do. And yes, you did provide links to your articles. But you provided them after I made the since apologized for comment. In fact, I believe it was my initial since apologized for comment that prompted you to inform the thread you were a journalist in which you then provided samples of. Lastly, Ali is not my "heroine" nor have I ever referred to her that way. |
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