Will the 'real' Jun please stand up? (Jun in the DR)
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Spunky

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I cannot understand why she seems so much better in the DR than while interacting with the others. It seems to me that when she comes to the DR she is speaking to us and knows that she is speaking to 'intelligent' people and treating us accordingly, with well worded sentences and a very down to earth body language.
Why couldn't she be like this in the house?? Instead she seems to like stooping to the others' levels and even prompting them to be more childish than they are...

She's puzzling me and this is why I may be convinced that she should win.. if that's the real Jun we see in the DR.

Therlin

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The interview with Julie in the HOH room was great. When she was done, I looked at the person next to me and said "she sounded very intelligent."

Crazydog

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree, her HoH interview with Julie was outstanding. She gave us so much information, and sounded so intelligent. As opposed to all those other HoH interviews where the HoH acts like Julie is one of the players and is going to tattle to everyone.

I think Jun is very smart and I do think she is trying to dumb down a little to the others so they don't see her as a big threat.

Go Jun!!!

Sushigirl

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
IMO Jun is the most intelligent in the house. I think she does a great job stooping to the level of others in the house. If she acted superior, it would bite her in the butt. I also love hearing her diary room sessions. She's smart and entertaining at the same time. :)

Spunky

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Then, if that's the real Jun, she will win hands down when the Jurors will hammer her with their questions.
Imagine how poised and articulate she will be compared to Ali (who will feel as the underdog at that point).
She could give the Jurors the same impression she gives us when she is in the DR.
If she keeps that 'down to earth' and professionalism she shows in the DR she could win with a bigger majority than I thought at first.

Auntiemike

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 09:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree, Spunky.

I have always seen her intelligence in how she has played the game. She is one smart cookie!

Ark

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 09:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That's why I love Jun. She seems to know exactly what to do and say and how to do and say it, to each and every person in there. She is a very bright lady and I can't wait to see her face Ali in the finals.

Trinity63

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 09:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You know I really couldn't stand Jun when I first saw her interact with the house guests, but I have to say I have grown to respect her for sure.

Watching2

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 09:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I wouldn't go as far a saying I respect her, but I would say I like her much better now than I did at the beginning of the show. She really turned me off with her calling herself pretty and bad-mouthing the other houseguests.

Gina8642

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 09:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Spunky - I think you sorta answered your own question in your first post - like stooping to the others' levels and even prompting them to be more childish than they are...

Or in Erika's words - Jun's always stirring up Sh-t

She gets the other HGs to act like childish idiots. That way, those idiots come off as worse than her. Then Jun acts like the voice of reason and comes out smelling like a rose.

Another thing I've noticed about Jun - she doesn't really lie during these convos. She takes the truth and twists and twists until it makes the person she's speaking about sound awful. But it usually comes from a truthful base. So, in the end, she can say she didn't really lie in the game. Examples - implying Erika has a eating disorder because she doesn't eat. Saying the jury would respect the people who get rid of Alison (so don't get rid of me), Dana was campaigning against me when she asked Erika how I was voting, etc... - None of this is a lie, but the way she twists it is malicious

Spunky

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 11:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
So, is this the ideal way of playing BB??

we seem to perceive her that way, and as Gina also said:

She gets the other HGs to act like childish idiots. That way, those idiots come off as worse than her. Then Jun acts like the voice of reason and comes out smelling like a rose.

we can see how cleverly she displays these two opposing sites of her. I'm intrigued...

Steveh

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 11:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the key thing is that Jun has a sense of humor about herself and none of the others do (at least not enough of one). She gets my (pretend) vote for the money.

Dahli

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 11:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I like Jun, she's intersting to listen to and I enjoy watching her interactions - I even like to watch her eat, she does things so beautifully and with such precision for example cooking and manicures... weird I know but it's soothing somehow, if she goes I'll miss her.

Cliotheleo

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 11:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Not to worry Dahli, Jun won't be leaving the house until the 24th. ;)

Chy

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 11:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If Ali & Jun made F2, at least the confrontation by the Jury ought to be great fun for us.
I'm not worried for Ali though, does she not have enough experience with the Beauty Contest thing?

I'm a bit worried fpr Jun now that more people here start to like her. The result of this stuff usually do not agree with our views I think.

Wendo

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 11:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The only thing that I could see hurting Jun with the jury is if they realize that a lot of the so called "pot stirring" was caused by her.

The interesting thing is, Jun said last night that she still believes that Ali is the one to take to finals because everyone hates her. What she doesn't realize is that many on the jury have similar feelings for her as well.

Avrey258

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 12:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know how Justin feels about Jun. I think the only person at the jury house who dislikes Jun is Nate. He was the one who called her out about stirring the pot.

I think Jack likes Jun, they had that morning-risers bonding thing. Although Jun did say that Jack creeps her out. I am sure Jack doesn't know she feels that way.

That is why I am surprised that Ali and Jun, knowing that Erika is going to join the jury have still kept up the bashing of the jury members.

Jamisinc

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 12:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As soon as I had opinions of the HGs I disliked Jun. I was a Jack fan from early on. But I am admiring Jun's gameplay more and more. I have to hope that she will go on to win,,,if Erika leaves tonight, as it seems is the case. She has shown herself to be so smart. In my opinion she is the smartest HG since Dr Will. And out of the game I think I would really like and enjoy her.

Jhezzie

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 01:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun's no dummy. If she spoke with the hamsters like she does to Julie, she would have been outta there long ago. Dumbing down makes her less threatening.:)

Mich

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 03:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As a big Jun fan, (i'm torn between Jun and Eric as my favorite to win) I wonder though about her diary room conversations. If she has watched the show in the past she (and the others) must know that there is a chance that bb will show clips of dr's to the hg's. Correct me if i'm wrong but they did that in bb1 and 2 didn't they? ...but not bb3?

Spunky

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 04:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Mich, the idea was NOT TO SHOW the DR entries because it seemed last year Danielle lost because of the DR confessions.

However, the Jury House makes it even easier to influence others as they've been spending some time together and as more evicted hgs arrive they're further influenced.

Actually, the DR entries by Jun should help her win as pointed out in this thread.