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Cliotheleo

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 09:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"The concept of the person taking Ali losing the respect of the jury actually came from Robert"

Ok, now it make sense, it's Robert's idea. Like I said, it's absurd. :)

Cliotheleo

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 09:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
See, from now on you all just need to learn my work schedule. BB ALWAYS AND WITHOUT FAIL wakes them for the competitions at the same time I have to leave for work. :(

Gina8642

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 09:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun is just trying to get Erika to not boot Jun.

Erika is in a terrible position. She's making deals with Robert, who she despises. As if that is not enough -

If she boots Ali, Erika has betrayed Ali, and loses Ali's vote. If Ali's gone she's in the position of (a) betraying her most recent alliance with Robert and taking Jun to final two or (b) taking her hated ex to finals and handing him at least $30,000.

Or

Not betray Ali, boot Jun. Erika knows Jun may spread her venom of keeping Ali is terrible to the Jury. If Ali wins final HOH, Ali is likely to betray Erika anyways and take Robert to final two, which also hands Robert $30,000.

And

If Jun or Ali wins POV, Erika has a very good chance of going home on Wednesday.

If I was Erika, I don't think I'd be sleeping either. LOL

Litafreak

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 09:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
has rob done noms? who's up?

Kellirippa

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 09:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Does Robert have a girlfriend?

Bonzacat

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 09:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Kelli - last night when Robert was telling Erika that he would sleep with her again anytime she wanted (I'm paraphrasing), he also mentioned he wasn't seeing anyone in particular. Or seeing no one. Or something like that.

Kellirippa

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 09:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Bonza!

Seamonkey

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 10:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Robert told Erika he has no relationship.. so he is available :)

Jun is trying to not be voted out.. uh, isn't that what anyone would do at this point in the game???? Robert and Erika have both told her the plan is to vote out Ali.

REading the live feeds from overnight, I think Robert has a better read on Jun than Erika does..Erika is still fearful of Ali.

I do think Robert is right; Ali isn't going to be a big influence on the other jury members..

The only one who has said much positive about her in the past was Jack, who liked her spirit, but Jack would vote for Erika over ANYONE and for Jun over Robert, so Ali will be mad but she has to vote for someone at the end, if she isn't there at the end.

Near as i can tell, all four are playing mindgames, at least the women are.

To me, if Erika plans to stick with Ali she shouldn't have encouraged Robert THAT much and if she isn't lying to Robert just to be safe, then she should stop pumping Ali up and listening to Ali's versions of what Jun supposedly says.

And as for Jun and Ali being suspicious that Erika and Robert have a deal.. well they DO have a deal.

There is no one here who is innocent

Kellirippa

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 10:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
gee Seamonkey...I wasn't asking for myself..it's for a friend...yeah, that's it, for a friend...

Kaili

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 10:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
But who's really being loyal here? Is Jun on board with the plan to get Ali out, or would she get rid of Erika if the veto made that possible?

Seamonkey

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 10:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Snork!! Too late!! Robert is verrrry interested, he said to a camera ;)

Kellirippa

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 10:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Damn...the curse of this body!

Buzzelda

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 10:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It seems that everyone is telling everyone else what they think the other wants to hear! I'm wondering what else could anyone do? At this point isn't it prudent to try to not get booted whatever way you can?

Not one of these people have been totally loyal to anyone or totally honest, wouldn't this be the worst time to get a conscience?

Charvie

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 10:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
In the previous BB weren't they forbidden to sleep during the day? And why did BB get them up if they are going to let them go back bed?

Prisonerno6

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 11:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"But who's really being loyal here?"

Amusingly enough, Robert.

Another thread asks if Robert scares anyone else. What scares me is the foul-mouthed, misogynistic, nose-picker is growing on me. I thought he'd be a real pr!ck as HOH, but he's actually been rather pleasant, at least compared to the power trips on which other HOHs have gone.

There, I said it. Now who wants to help me form "Robert Is Growing On Me Anonymous"?

Buzzelda

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 11:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Prisoner, yes, if Robert is being truthful, he is being loyal to Erica, at least.

It's interesting to me that Robert's personality has improved since all the men left. I wonder how much the safety of HOH has on his recent display of security/confidence and how much of it has to do with not having to "posture" in the presence of other guys?

Bohawkins

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 11:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The strange thing is it didn't matter who Robert nominated; he only had three to choose from and if he had nominated any two of the three, the power of veto would subsequently truly determine the actual nomination.

As crazy as it seems, Robert could have nominated blindfolded and the result would have been irrelevant, because the end result would be determined by circumstances beyond his control. This is because the veto holder is the sole voter in this scenario (unless someone pulls a Marcellas, which is unlikely).

So perhaps he is nice because he realizes that he actually had no power as HOH and that the power will be totally dictated by the person (which could be him as well) who holds the golden power of veto.

Brenda1966

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 11:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't see an answer to Litafreak's question, so I'll ask again: Has Robert made his nominations yet? If not, when?

Wendo

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 11:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I would say it's at least part the safety of being HOH and knowing he'll for sure be in the final 3. I'd be feeling pretty good too.

Kalekona

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 11:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
ali and jun

Sunrvrose

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 11:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for your last paragraph Bo, I totally forgot Rob could get pov. I was thinking Erica was a gonner if anyone but her got it.

I can't find a specific post about who is nom'd, have they done it yet?

Bohawkins

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 11:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, Brenda... he made the nomination. But, like I said in the earlier post it didn't matter which two he chose... it's the power of veto that will determine everything. I created a graphic which shows the (nomination) in the form of three possible scenarios.

Click here to check out that graphic and it's thread

Ezgoing

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 11:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Nominations were held yesterday. Jun and Ali were put on the block. POV comp is anticipated at 1pm BB time today, but that's based solely on previous POV comp times. Definitely today though.

Charvie

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 11:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Where in the house is the lemon tree located? They just did a close up on it(fake lemon tree) I just can't place where it is in the house.

Gidget

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 12:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What is the point of making these people get up in the morning if they go back to bed an hour later!!!