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Flamingo

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 09:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I voted for Erika

Crazydog

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 10:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I voted for Erika. And I found that little girl annoying. I think they were trying to exploit her to gain sympathy for Robert.

Onlyhuman

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 10:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I voted for Robert. I'm just a sucker for kids...

Spooky974

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 10:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I voted for Robert, not for him, but for his daughter. I would have been happy if Erika got it, but I was seperated from my dad for weeks at a time because he was on the job site and I always loved hearing from him. That's why I did it. For her, not for him. While having a child shouldn't be a consideration, it was for me. I don't have children, but I just had to give her the chance to talk to her dad. Especially because she's back at school now and everything is so important to a child. Would I vote for him to win the money... NO WAY. The money is different than talking to your 7 year old daughter. His daughter should always be more important for money. I guess it's my way of saying you can have the convo with your daughter, but (hopefully), you won't get the money. (Unless he ends up being with Alli, then I don't care)

Sheilaree

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 10:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I voted for Erika, it was rigged. I complained to CBS saying I thought the polls were rigged. They should have a mix of people for next year Bigbrother, young,old,middleage, heavyset people, any people I don't think I will get a response.

Gina8642

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 11:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think it was rigged. Heck - I really, really don't like Robert, but if had to choose from the four, I might choose Robert too - for the very reason that he has a young daughter.

Erika, while clearly having a close bond with her mom is 33 years old. She can handle the separation a lot better than a 7 or 8 year old child.

I think the only thing 'rigged' about America's choice this year is that they both involved contact with family. Of course folks will choose who they feel needs it the most. I'm not surprised at all that Robert won again.

BB, I'm sure, loved it - another teary montage of cute little Elena. Elena's mom and Robert will love it, because it gives Elena more professional opportunities. Top it all off with the fact that a little girl got to talk to her daddy for the first time in 2 1/2 months. Not a bad thing as far as I'm concerned.

Crossfire

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 11:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If people are doing these votes on account of things outside the game, I am thinking that BB should go the way of survivor and have them compete directly for these things.

It's pretty hard to beat a cute little monster missing her pops. That's not fair for the rest.

But then I am just a cruel monster, and I would prefer no contact to mean no contact.

Flamingo

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 12:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree. I don't think it's fair for one HG to win luxuries only because they happen to have children. Should they just go ahaead and hand Robert the $500,000 too?

And frankly I'm sick of watching Robert blubber.

Kalekona

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 12:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
no Robert should win the $500,000 just because he has a daughter, that's an entirely different matter.

instead of being angry at Robert for Winning be angry at the show, they could have done AC like in the past... trampoline, microwave or even made it what movie the HG would get to watch..

A. Lord Of the Rings- the Two Towers
b. Chicago
C. From Justin to Kelly

something that wasn't contact home.

Mystery

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 02:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Winning AC (twice) doesn't give Robert the big prize money but I think it does make it a lot easier for him to be in the house. And if he's less stressed he's less likely to blow up at someone and make himself a bigger target than he'd otherwise be, he's less likely to make mistakes, maybe he's even relaxed enough to do better at competitions. Seeing him get AC (twice) might also make the other HGs miss their families even more. I think it's grossly unfair and I hope they do away with AC next time.

If I were on this show I would immediately vote to evict anyone with children, just because in the current BB viewership climate that person is likely to take away my chance of ever winning AC.

Eeyoreslament

Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 11:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd just like to say that watching the America's choice thing made me CRY tonight. I was touched because the daughter was crying. As much as Robert has that "women are wh0res" defense mechanism thing going for him, I honestly liked him when he was talking to her, and also after, when he was saying how he heard her crying and how he felt he had to be strong.

Awww....I felt so bad seeing his daughter cry. :-(


(This is just my two cents. PLEASE don't use this as an excuse to start a debate on Robert's worthiness or lack of worth, or whether he should win, or if he's a good or bad father.)

PS - I like the cute little red dots that come up when you say a bad word. I've never seen them before. Tee hee!!

Gina8642

Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 11:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wasn't it funny that Robert started talking a mile a minute to his daughter telling her about spending time with her etc. It was exactly like all the other times he gets excited. Still Robert.

I said it earlier, and still believe it after seeing the show. Robert was the best choice of the four for the phone call. That 7 (8?)year old needed to talk to her dad. I had no problem with it. I don't think he deserves to win because of his daughter - but a phone call? Yeah, he was the best choice.

Galelia

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 04:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Eeyoreslament - I cried, too. And I don't cry that often. I look at it that Robert didn't win the AC, but his daughter did.

Drypelia

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 04:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Am I the only one who found it a little disturbing that Robert kept calling his daughter "Mama"? What's with that?

Sheilaree

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 05:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
No you are not the only one find it little disturbing, Mama I thought that was weird. I was glad to see the little girl talked to her daddy. His daughter need to talk with him

Rainwoman

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 05:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Watching Robert's daughter had me streaming with tears. I could not beleive how endearing that phone call was to watch, especially when she said "bye" the way she did. Omg, what a heartwrencher that was. Very touching.

Galelia

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 05:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Drypelia: I was wondering about that, too. He kept switching between Mama and Baby for her. Weird.

Mpls

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 05:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Call me cynical, especially after watching the Bravo series on the complete bullsh1t when it comes to scripting "reality tv". But my original thought was the daughter is acting, or they are pinching her or off camera, or they have a gun to to the head of her favorite stuffed animal.

Gina8642

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 05:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
OMG - can't a father have an endearment for his daughter without people casting stones at the guy?

I keep saying it - I don't like Robert - but come on - it's obvious he loves his daughter. Give him a break!!!

Torch

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 05:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
For whatever reason people give each other terms of endearment that sound strange to others.

Mama is probably a pet name he gave his daughter because she's always being a Mama to her dolls. Or it could be his daughter is always mothering him, etc.

I see nothing wrong with it even though I thought it a bit strange too. Maybe different is a better word, because I've heard people call each other God-awful terms of endearment.

Badabing

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 05:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ditto Torch

Vskatefan

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 05:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Apparently calling a kid "mama" is common in the Latino culture and Robert is Cuban.

Needmylifeback

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 06:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I was just going to log on this morning and ask if it was a Latino custom to call your kid something like mama....I have pet names for my kid ...but, it seemed something like a roll reversal for Robert to call his daughter "mama"....I'm glad that I am not the only one who felt this was strange..but, I am also releaved to find that this can be a common endearment....whatever it was...that phone call was purely natural talk...you see the real Robert...switching from "Baby" to "Mama" was not forced...I think it took all that he had to not cry to keep his daughter strong...



(I call my son 'sweet-cheeks' in the morning...but, I wouldn't call him that in front of his friends! LOL!....I never see myself calling him 'papa'...but, I'm not Latino...)

I voted for Erica by the way...

Maryk

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 06:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Especially after watching the Bravo series, I have to agree that A.C. was rigged so we can see this 'endearing moment' between Robert and her daughter. Everybody I know voted multiple times for Erika. Unless these polls publish raw numbers and percentages, people will continue to doubt the credibility of these polls.

Redhdpixie

Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 06:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"Mama" is indeed a term used in hispanic cultures for "daughter" It is not role reversal, it does not mean "mother", nor is it in any way strange or perverted.