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Archive through September 22, 2003
Spygirl | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 09:02 am     Voting for Jun to win: Dana Jack Erika Voting for ALi to win: Jee Robert Nathan How Justin votes is where I'm not positive. Will he go with his new girlfriend or will he go with his dream team? |
Crazydog | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 08:27 am     I can't possibly see Jee voting for Ali. I think he's 100% behind Jun. His comments about her during the last HoH game shows that he bears her no animosity. He seems like a good guy and I'm sure he would not vote against her just so she doesn't win. He doesn't seem the type to be jealous. I would think he would love to see Jun win the money. |
Carrie92 | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 10:02 am     Dana: Jun Nathan: Jun Justin: Jun Jack: Jun - his early morning buddy Jee: Jun (but he's hard to read - I think he still has animosity toward Jun) Erika: Jun - she will realize Alison's "performance" Robert: Jun - Justin will have explained to him all the stuff that went over his head re:ALi |
Imz | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 10:07 am     My contention is the Dream Team will vote together and will never vote for Ali, so Jun needs just 1 more vote. Any idea who that might be? Might Dana have the last word? Justice will have never been so poetic. |
Gina8642 | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 03:39 pm     Imz - very tricky indeed. I think you are right that the dream team may want to vote as a block and Dana will want 'in' on that team. However, I think their opinions diverge quite a bit. My guesses per questions. I'll make another guess after we hear on the LFs how Jun & Ali react to the final Q/A. (I wish we could see the final Q/A the night before the decision is revealed.) I'm goint to pretend the dream team will not vote together and that Jack and Erika will not influence each other (yeah right...) Dana - votes Jun Nathan - votes Jun Resents Ali for playing him and leading him on... Justin - votes Jun I'm depending on what he said just before he left that he'd never vote for Alison in the end Jack - votes Jun Said so, just before boot Jee - votes Jun Also said so - before boot Erika - votes Alison feels betrayed, but thinks Ali played the strongest game - admires that type of play more than Jun's Robert - votes Ali because he has an irrational hate of Jun - I've never figured out why - always liked Ali better except for a few short days. Final Vote - 5-2 Jun wins The problem with my predictions is that it doesn't account for all the influence that is clearly going on inside that Jury house. I think the decision will be really close for everyone except Dana - a little push in the right direction and any one of them could easily flip. If BB truly wanted an unbiased vote, they would have seperated them altogether. But - that isn't what they wanted - So my guess is just that - a blind guess. |
Babyboo | Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 07:14 pm     Even though most of the jury dislikes alison i still think that she will win over jun because i've heard some of the jury make racial remarks before they were evicted and i think that some prejudices will play a part in the voting this year, i may be wrong we shall see. |
Roamjotiba | Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 08:02 pm     5-2 Ali wins (I hope not!) Jee and Dana the only votes for Jun. I think that's why they'll watch the tapes of the show so they can all kick themselves for voting for Ali on Wed. show |
Sc00pgrl | Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 08:15 pm     Dana: Jun Nathan: Ali Justin: Ali Jack: Jun Jee: Jun Erika: Ali Robert: Ali ...but thinking Dana may even vote for Ali and maybe Jack too. |
Surreal_Badger | Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 10:13 am     Erika's comments on Friday's show about the knife in her back have been making me think about the stabbed-in-the-back-by-the-person-who-lied-to-your-face-then-voted-you-out factor. So here's my take on the final votes... Dana -- JUN (Jun was also nom'd at the time and didn't cast a vote in this eviction. And clearly, Dana hates Ali) Nate -- ALI or JUN (sorry Nate-fans, but I don't see him as a real intellectual player here. although i think he prefered ali as a 'bed-buddy,' and although both women voted for him to leave, ali most clearly and deliberately stabbed him in the back. most people have nate as an ali vote, but i think he could be easily swayed by the tenor of the house to vote for jun) Justin -- ALI or JUN (again, both women voted to evict him. i don't think justin saw his departure as a betrayal by ali or jun. but i'm thinking his dislike for ali could mean a vote for jun. and if ali-bashing begins in the sequester house, i see him quickly joining in) Jack -- JUN (again, both women voted to evict him, which one could say was in the stab-in-the-back by both. in this case, i think however that his general dislike for ali will mean a vote for jun) Jee -- JUN or ALI (he says he hates jun and never intends on seeing her again. and jun did nominate him. but she did her best for a while to protect him in the game -- i think he admitted that and is somewhat less likely to see her "turn" as a betrayal. ali did vote to evict him, however, and much like nate, i think jee's vote could be easily swayed by groupthink) Erika -- JUN or ALI (well, i think ali's move was the stab-in-the-back. and despite erika's alleged closeness with ali--much of this was for show, methinks--i think erika too will lean towards jun, especially if jack can convince her of it) Robert -- JUN or ALI (despite Robert's claims to have vast influence on the jury, i don't think he'll have had time to do so; and furthermore, i don't think anyone would listen to him. the final "ali's a sweet kid" comment makes me think he's leaning towards an ali vote, but i think this could change if justin and jee vote for jun) IMHO, jun has only 2 solid votes -- Dana and Jack. the rest could go either way. but if Erika, the final person into the sequester house, was able to raise the stabbed-in-the-back issue, i think jun will win by a landslide. although jun participated in her fair share of manipulations, they weren't really "stabs-in-the-back" |
Bohawkins | Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 10:18 am     7-0 for Jun. |
Flamingo | Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 10:32 am     Dana - Jun Nate - Jun (sounds like he slammed Ali in their questioning yesterday) Justin - Jun (Dana would kill him if he voted for Alison) Jack - Jun Jee - Jun Erika - Alison (will probably respect how she played the game) Robert - Alison (he had zero respect for Jun) 5 - 2 for Jun |
Chief1 | Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 11:14 am     Dana -- JUN (She would rather see Jun win anyday over her nemesis Ali. Besides, the rest of the sequestered HGs have to be around Dana, and wouldn't want to piss her awf!) Nate -- ALI or JUN (Nate is still sore about Ali using him and bragging about it to everyone! My guess is the rest of the sequestered HGs shared this info, so he may vote for Jun. Remember though, that he still wanted Ali as a "snuggle" partner if she got evicted! He may try to "mask" his hurt ego, then, by saying she played a strong game, and cast his vote for her. Of course, then he gets to say he saved her AGAIN, and she owes him a car!) Justin -- JUN (He has the right to tell everyone, "I told you so (about Ali)!" He'll vote for Jun, and stick by his word with the stooges+Dana.) Jack -- JUN (He just simply liked Jun, for whatever reason. Jack was ready to put the original 8 on hold just to get rid of Ali, for good reason, and he can share his disrespect for her with the stooges+Dana.) Jee -- JUN (Somehow, Jee will vote for Jun because he realizes she helped carry him that far in the game, even if he doesn't want to admit it. He'll probably be angry, especially because she made him believe they had such a strong aliance, but he'll vote whichever way Justin votes. In the same breath, he'll feel a daggar in his heart, because he'll have to accept that Jun out-played him! Ali isn't in the running for Jee, since she backstabbed him directly to his face, and created his 2x HOH failure.) Erika -- ALI (Jun turned on the original 8 long before Ali, and caused much of the breakup. Erika realized this, and tried to reel Ali in. She probably hates that Ali promised not to evict her, then DID! She'll probably vote Ali to win, just for the right to say, "See Ali, I told you I had your back!" Pittiful!) Robert -- JUN (Robert will be so glad to be back with his buddies, that even his wishful demise for Jun would take a back seat. In order to not go against the grain, he'll put up his argument for Ali to win, but will cave in to "become one" with the other stooges+Dana.) |
Seanflynn2003 | Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 11:27 am     I think Jun will win, but one factor no one seems to be discussing is Jee's and Justin's feelings within the group of 3 about their respective Xs. On Justin's side, he has no lost love for Allison, but might also want to be seen as a good sport. (There is also the Dana factor here). If he wants Allison to win, does that sway the other 2? The Jee factor is much more complicated. They come from a common community; it might be tough for him to go back and see people they both know (I also think it would have been tough for Jun to vote against Jee if he were in the final 2). But there is also the Carmen factor - how will she react to his voting for her? I think Jee has done a good job in proving that he has no affection for Jun, which makes it easier for him to vote for her, but again this is part of it. I believe Jee, Jun and Robert thrashed this out before the voting -- if one or the other felt really strongly one way or the other it could have made a difference. Allison's best chance of winning of course is the 3 voting as a bloc for her, then picking off one other from Erika, Nathan or less likely Jack or not in this lifetime Dana. |
Donut | Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 07:45 pm     i don't think Justin wants Ali to win, and I think he has influence over Jee and Robert, so I think it could be stooges-3 votes Jun (although Robert will REALLY want to vote against Jun) Dana-Jun Nate-thought about voting for Ali cuz thinks her playing was strong, but during the sequestering has become an honorary stooge so votes for Jun Erika and Jack-still naive think Ali was strongest player and vote for her, but after they watch the tape they will strongly regret their vote so i think 5 to 2 Jun, and it turns out that Justin is the biggest influence in the whole show and Ali blames the x factor and has no clue that she did it to herself Possibility as indicated by Erika's knife in back comment, that she and Jack finally wake up and it is Jun 7-0 HOWEVER, my gut tells me unfortunately that I am totally wrong and ala the Jenna Factor, that they will all be brainwashed by the producers, as is always the case(except for Lisa, and the producers won't want a repeat of last year). to go for the person that played the strongest (which they define as a$$holiest HG) and they will all cave to the reality show mantra and vote for Ali... |
Pixieduster | Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 08:20 pm     I'm wondering about Justin's vote because he has to go back to the same area where Ali lives. Does he not vote for Ali because she's a liar and angered a lot of people or does he give her the vote because as a competitor he'll recognize she played to win. Will he truly vote on who he wants to win or will there be some element of the area connection that will play into his vote? |
Ziroc | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 03:22 am     Jun to win: Dana Jack Erika Jee Robert Ally to win: Nathan |
Jolly_Penguin | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 06:25 am     Pixie, you raise a good point. Justin may vote against Ali for that reason alone, nevermind his personal feelings about her or how she played the game. If she wins, he will be faced with it (and the fact that he lost) everywhere he goes in his community. If she loses, he may be able to put it behind him a little easier. |
Eeyoreslament | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 10:24 am     I think Ali's gonna win it. Nathan is DEFINITELY going to vote for her. In the latest interviews with him, he showed that he understood Ali was all about the game. And if he was SOOOO hurt by her, he wouldn't be hoping every week to have her there to cuddle with. He would have said, "I keep hoping to see Ali walk through that door so I know she's been taken out of the finals." I agree with pixie, in that Justin will vote for Ali on the "area" theory. I think Justin doesn't like her in a girlfriend-y way anymore, but If you're with someone for long enough, you'd rather THEM see success over a person you don't know at all. Jun is still a stranger to him, and I don't think he was ever really close to Jun, or felt at all safe with her. While he was smart enough to admit he didn't trust Ali one bit, he still would want her to win. I think Robert will vote Ali, because she played the most conniving game, and that she won competitions, and that she played it harder than Jun. Jee will vote Jun. Even though he won't see her outside of the show, the ex-success rule applies. Jee has said he was grateful for how Jun took care of him and was there for him after his father's death. I think Jee will vote for Jun. Dana....I think that despite her hating Ali, I think she just might RESPECT the competitor in Ali, and possibly give her the vote for playing the game as hard as she did. However I DO believe also that Dana felt way closer to Jun, so she may vote Jun if she can't get over the Ali/hate factor. I am undecided on what Dana will vote. Jack...........hmmm.........he did seem somewhat flirty with Jun, and perhaps may vote for the one who acted more like an adult, however I think he may be big enough to admit Ali outplayed everyone, and thus deserves to win it. Ericka, I think she'll vote Ali too. All that "little sister" crap Ali played up with Ericka. Ericka wasn't close to Jun in the show. I think that is where Ali has won this game over Jun. Ali made bold efforts to be CLOSE with everyone. She convinced everyone she was one their side, and was constantly in their faces with her allegiance. Jun was to opposite. She got close to no-one. Nobody ever really knew what Jun was thinking. She was a very subtle player, and I think that although she was playing the same floater game, no-one will remember Jun ever being a HELP to their cause. Everyone will remember a time when Ali made a bold flop in their side's favour. So folks, I believe Ali will win it in the same way Will did. With everyone's respect for playing the game so hard. While I in NO WAY equate Ali to my idol Dr. WIll, I think she will get votes for the same reasons. As for whether the jury will be HAPPY with their votes AFTER watching the tapes.....well, that's a different story. |
Seanflynn2003 | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 10:40 am     Will won not so much because of the respect for his game as for the loathing of Nicole. The respect for his game was a rationalization, not the reason. Jun has not come close to Nicole's level of dislike by the other HGs. Allison might still win, but the circumstances are far different than BB2. |
Cantremember | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 11:24 am     Jun 4, Ali 3 Dana--JUN Ali beat Dana when she got Nate to use the veto; Dana won't want to be beat by her again. Nathan--JUN once he sees her "handling" of Justin and Dave he is not gonna give Ali ANYTHING! Justin--ALI Ali was pretty mean about him, but only in the Secret room so this will be a regrettable vote on his part. Dream team means nothing when the jun/jee secret alliance is revealed. Jack--Jun Ali not only broke the alliance, but she got DAVE kicked out in the process which destroyed the alliance. Jee--Jun He will want Jun to win more than Ail--they have a history. Erik--Jun See Jack AND Ali was the one to kick out Erika by winning the POV. Robert--Ali He doesn't like Jun. Once he sees the secret jee/jun alliance, he isn't going to vote with the dream team. |
Smowen99 | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 11:28 am     Vote for Jun to win: Dana, Jee, Erika Vote for Ali to win: Nathan, Justin, Jack, Robert |
Rubberduckey | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 11:32 am     we must remember that the jury does not see the show until after they vote, so the only way they will know about jee and juns secert aliance is if jee tells them |
Jpgramma | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 11:56 am     7-0. Jun wins From Danas parting words : "Who do you think will win? I think Justin has a great chance of winning, but he's the first one the original alliance wants out. They'll be coming after him right away. I'm hoping that Jun can sneak her way through to the end." From Nathan's parting words : "Who do you want to win? I would love to see Jack or Erica win. " (no mention of Alison and i think he'll listen to Jack & Erika) From Justin's parting words : "Who do you think will win? I honestly think its going to be Robert, Jee, Jack or Erica, because I can't see anyone voting for Alison and Jun if they make it to the finals. (ed. if it's a toss up I think he'll listen to Dana, Gee, Erika and Jack) From Jack's Parting Words : "Who do you think will win? I think Erika has a good shot at it. I think Jee, if Jee can survive this week after the food mess. We all felt Jee would be unbeatable in the finals because he's such a sympathetic, honorable guy. But I would like to see Erika and Jun in the finals." From Jee's parting words: "Who would you like to see win? Right now, it's tough. I would like to see Robert win because he is the remaining member of the Dream Team. I know he has a daughter, is a single father and is divorced. It would be great for him to win that money, but I don't think that is going to happen. If that does not happen, I would rather it be Erica or Jun at this point." From Eriks's parting words : "And out of the three remaining, who would you like to see win? Gosh, I would love to see Robert win, or Jun. I think all three of them played a great game." From Robert's Parting Words : "Which HouseGuest do you think will win? I hope Alison wins. I think Alison will win. " Robert is the only juror who stated he wanted Alison to win. A few minutes with the other jurors, and I'm betting he'll quickly change his mind. |
Peepinagain | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 12:19 pm     A little off topic here but how long will the finale be 2 hrs? Or will it air Tuesday & Wednesday? I'm getting confused on my dates. |
Spunky | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 12:45 pm     Peep, It will only be 1 hour Live show on Wednesday. Most of the questions are edited and the vote already decided but it will be played out during the show. By now BB (and the Jury) already know who the winner is. |
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