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TV ClubHouse: Archive: A plea to Arnold Shapiro: Archive through September 23, 2003

Thatchicktrish

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 11:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am a first time poster here, I just wanted to know if anyone knows of a way to e-mail Arnold Shapiro or the other execs???

Wendo

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 11:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here you go Thatchicktrish! Good luck! Hey, perhaps you'll get a response.

http://www.arnoldshapiroprods.com/

aspproductions@aol.com

Thatchicktrish

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 11:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
thanks Wendo!!


*crosses fingers that e-mail is even read*

Wendo

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 11:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No problem! :)

Coffee

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 12:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that in another season of BB they should have some twists. This year they promised a series of twists and we saw none. All they did were a couple different ways of getting the veto. There were no real twists after they told us they were coming. The x factor at the very beginning was the only surprise that was any good.

Cliotheleo

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 12:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Not true!

For each America's Choice competition, we never knew exactly WHAT Robert was gonna win until like, five whole days before it happened! :)

Coffee

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 12:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't really call that a twist. They have given AC awards out on the other BB shows.

Cliotheleo

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 01:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Coffee, I was being silly. Text description

Coffee

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 01:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
OK, sorry, I guess I am just a little too upset with this season.

Cliotheleo

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 01:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL! Breathe coffee breathe! Nice, deep breaths, in and out ......... in and out.......... (ha ha)

(my humor is a bit vague at times, sometimes even *I* don't get it!)

Jpgramma

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 05:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Repeating my original plea to A/S since it's now lost on page 1 of this thread. If there's any chance of him considering this before Wed. show, time is short :

PLEASE..please, please, please, DON'T make the same mistake as last year and leave your viewers with no feeling of closure by showing only the jury votes and not their reasons for their vote.

Want good TV? Ask each Jury member to explain, in a limited number of words/time, WHY they voted the way they did as they pull their keys from the box!

Last years show was sorely lacking because of this. Their vote keys will already be in the box, so their voiced reasons will not sway any of the others votes. please, please, please, PLEASE!

Seamonkey

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 06:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Interesting that people think Sue Hawk explained anything with her speech.. snake, rat, snake, rat. What she explained to me was that she wanted air time.

And what did people have to explain last year.. I think it came down to.. I feel betrayed by all and some also didn't enjoy being labelled the "spawn of satan", or being lied about.

This year in Survivor, I loved Christy, but I still really don't understand her vote.

Anyway, I'm still interested in seeing this season wind up and in what happens.

Chief1

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 06:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jpgramma, your original post was GREAT!!! If there's ever a time when BB can try to make it up to us, it's now. That was right on the money! Now THAT's what will bring people back to watch more ... spill ALL the beans!!!

Beruthiel, you couldn't have said it better. That's what we've been asking for all season, but your words were eloquent, to the point, and accurate! ... Loved the way you expressed that. (Producers, are you getting the HINT?)

Jpgramma

Monday, September 22, 2003 - 10:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank you Chief. :)

Sunshinemiss

Monday, September 22, 2003 - 12:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, I will add my heart-felt agreement, and a *bump* in the process...I have long felt the endings of BB leave you feeling dissatisfied, and somewhat betrayed. All that build-up, and when it's getting good, wham, it's over.

I could think of another parallel, but I'm a good girl

Shoegalnj

Monday, September 22, 2003 - 12:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd like to see more average people on that show. Not every chick walks around in a bikini. I mean when was the last time there was a femal HG that wore a bathing suit? Karen from BB1, I think.

We don't need a whole young cast either. The token older person is getting old - literally! LOL More of them. How about getting some people in there who have diverse backgrounds instead of the same type?

Not every third HG that walks in the door has to be model material either or have some association with a past HG or know Mike Boogey!

<venting over> TY

Smokey

Monday, September 22, 2003 - 12:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And, I'll add my agreement as well. I was just thinking how I quit turning on my feeds several days ago and how for me, the season is usually over when there are two left. This is because the last show, or the ending, ALWAYS sucks (with the exception of BB1 because the viewers voted for the winners and that was much more exciting).

Woodpecke®

Monday, September 22, 2003 - 01:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They should never leave 2 people in the house this long. 2 people for a couple of days is fine, but this is silly. It would almost make more sense to bring them all back in for a day and let them have a donnybrook.

Maris

Monday, September 22, 2003 - 01:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Looks aside, I thought that this group was a very average group which is why they were so dull and boring. There wasnt one interesting aspect to their personalities. Looks dont kmean much so I could care less if they are eye candy or not. It didnt bother me that they were reasonably attractive or that they were young, what bothered me is that they were the dullest bunch ever on a reality show.

Amy was young, Chiara was young but they sure were interesting.

Kellirippa

Monday, September 22, 2003 - 09:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You are so right Maris. The age and physical appearance of this group was not the problem here, it was just a really dull mix of people.

When they showed bits of their audition tapes, they all seemed to have pretended to be something, that in fact they did not turn out to be.

Live and learn, this season turned out to be a wash, but I still have high hopes for next year. There have been some really excellent and well thought out suggestions for making this show great right here on this board. If we can think of this stuff, surely highly paid creative production people should be able to come up with it! I think the ant can move the rubber-tree plant!

Cliotheleo

Monday, September 22, 2003 - 09:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I still blame the ex factor. Even though I warmed up to Jee near the end of the game, I still say that he, Robert, Michelle, Amanda (although maybe I didn't "know" her long enough to say) and possibly Justin would not have made it onto the show on their own merit. They were only there because they were the exs of the interesting people.

Remember how close Jee came to not even being on the show? (Brandon)

Wendo

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 01:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the people who could've been interesting weren't because of the blasted X-Factor. Erika and Jun especially. X-Factor = Failure.

Shoegalnj, I do believe Dani from BB3 wore a regular swim suit.

Llkoolaid

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 04:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Poor Dani, she hated putting on a bathing suit and she wore a very modest one.

Atjoybell

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 06:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Kellirippa, I would HOPE the executives would read the boards to get some ideas, but, as my mother would say, "it too much like right". Meaning, it makes TOO much sense for them to do.

You would think that because they make the money, they could come up with the ideas, but unfortunately in TV land, the more money you make, the less likely you will come up with something (or listen to the fans) that makes sense.

Uh oh, better stop, my dissatisfaction of this year's BB is beginning to come through.

Daydreamer

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 07:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I kept waiting for the big twist that never happened. This was one of the most boring BB ever, except for the first night when they brought in the ex's. How about bringing back one of the old HG like they did with Amy? And, this cast was just boring!!!