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Woodpecke®

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 08:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Watching Alison's response to Julie reading Donnie's letter was the best part of the game for me. Her utter disregard of people's feelings was unprecedented on any game show I've ever seen. Donnie showed class even sending her a tepid statement. One can only hope that Alison will learn from this experience, but her snide facial mannerisms and surly demeanor throughout the game will not soon be forgotten. Let's hope we have a better cast next season. This was truly an all-time low for reality television.

Katlady53

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 08:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Donnie's letter was absolutely perfect! LOL!

Bbrock

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 08:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I concur.

Bohawkins

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 08:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Donnie's letter was an example of the classic "condemnation with faint praise."

It was a very diplomatic way to explain why he turned down an all expense trip to California without being overtly insulting. I think he showed some true dignity.

Kailas

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 08:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Can someone print the text of Donnie's letter....

I heard it but did not retain all of it, and didn't tape it.

Hamsterlady

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 08:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have it on tape but too tired to transcribe it...

But here are some good pictures of Ali's reaction to Julie saying Donny wasn't there and her reaction to his letter. (Note Jun's smile)

Ali Crying #1

Ali Crying #2

Ali Crying #3

Ali Crying #4

Ali Crying #5

Carol

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 08:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm stealing this post of Donny's letter from a newsgroup.

"Congratulations on a great played game. As your biggest judge and critic I caught myself constantly thinking about you every night before sleep and every morning when waking up. The good and bad nature of these thoughts definitely varied, but one thing is for sure. You never cease to amaze me.
Love, Donnie"

Bracken

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 08:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, and she made it a point so many times to discuss how financially poor his family was. And, as it goes, his "poor" family raised a kid with some real class.

"You never cease to amaze me ..." There are so many endings I could add to the end of this sentence and none of them are positive.

... with your utter disregard of other people.

... with your narcissistic tendencies.

... in your inability to admit when you have done something wrong.

... with the blatant use of your sexuality to play this game.

You all get the picture. Better left unsaid by Donnie and say it privately.

Woodpecke®

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 08:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Those who thought Alison was playing a game that was different from her real life personality must be wondering about that theory now.

Carrie92

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 08:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm so glad I watched - just for that part.

I think Julie almost felt sorry for Alison. Almost.
And is it just me, or did Julie seem to take pleasure in calling them the self-proclaimed evil •••••••?

Hamsterlady

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 08:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think she liked it Carrie! She sounded like she liked it anyway.

Indenial

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 08:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was struck by how Julie kept saying "what do you think?" and "doesn't that sound kind of neutral to you, Alison." (I am paraphrasing here...) Then Allison said "It's good enough - it's enough - I'll take it."

She has to know deep inside that all is not well...

:(

Kailas

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 09:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks, Carol....

Julie said it was "ambiguous." I thought I knew what that meant but looked it up in the dictionary anyway.

...means "could be interpreted a number of ways!"

classy letter written because he was asked to, I think.

Elms

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 09:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Donny is a hypocrite. He apparently cheated on her (possibly more than once), which is why they broke up several months ago. Both Alison and Justin said Donny treats her poorly. Justin told Dana some rather creepy stories about Donny's behavior when it came to Ali (with Ali eventually having had to get a restraining order against him). Not to mention Justin alluding that Donny beat(s) Alison.

Sounds to me like Alison needs to get away from that relationship once and for all.

Steveh

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 09:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Woodpecker - You mean you didn't BELIEVE it when Ali told America that she and Jun WERE playing the game? They're nothing like this outside the house? Uh huh . . .

Quote of the Season: Justin - "She's a monster."

Yoyo

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 09:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I loved it! Donny has gone up ten notches in my eyes. As for Bob, well, he broke up with Jun in March. Of course he'll try again since she just won a half million dollars. I somehow doubt that the money will bring her happiness. Both she and Ali will pay in the long run for being such horrible human beings.

Woodpecke®

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 09:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL @ Steve. She was amazing. That's all I can say.

Woodpecke®

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 09:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"Of course he'll try again since she just won a half million dollars." Yoyo is such a romantic. Ha!

Ezgoing

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 09:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yoyo, you're right about winning the money not bringing her happiness. Even though she and Ali KNEW they had already won a good sum of money no matter what, there was little happiness in the BB house the last week. The squeals of laughter and giddiness displayed was most often following some awful remarks about their former roommates.

Keeping on topic, Donny's letter was perfect!

Lurknomore

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 09:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What amazed me is that Ali didn't seem to "get" what he was really saying and seemed genuinely happy by it. OH BROTHER!

Scorpiomoon

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 09:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wait just a minute here...

Do you guys remember weeks and weeks ago a post or an e-mail surfaced that was supposedly written by Donnie? Remember there was a thread dedicated to talking about it? Remember how badly written it was?

Well, I don't know if that post/e-mail was fake, but I have a hard time believing this Donnie guy is as eloquent as he appears to be in this brief note to Alison.

I wouldn't be surprised if this was another one of Arnold's last-minute "twists".

Closetfan

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 09:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I doubt we'll ever know the truth on this one...Ali and her family appear extremely manipulative IMO...and very much about 'appearances'...so who knows.

Good luck in real life to all of them. I'm so glad I'm not involved in this drama. BARF!

Bohawkins

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 09:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Scorpiomoon... The critique about Donnie's email was primarily about the spelling. I think if Julie had read Donnie's email on the air, it would have sounded just fine.

Steveh

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 10:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Donnie could've written the gist of the letter and then the production team cleaned it up. There were a lot of word, sent. and grammatical mistakes in Donnie's email, but he still made his points (if it was him) and they style of tonight's letter seemed similar to the email, a bit awkward. Of course, who knows? But I don't think BB would "forge" something from him. It may have been better angst-filled drama if she got nothing at all. Although I loved the ambiguity (NOT) of Donnie's statement. If I were Julie I'd have said "tepid."

Charvie

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 10:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Julie did say she was "paraphrasing". Which meansshe left a few sentences out.