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Earthmother

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 05:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1 read up 4 posts...lol

Earthmother

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 05:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
nope I was right the first time 3 posts...I've got to stop drinking during the day...

C1mag

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 05:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OH lord Pecke(R) no one is saying it's right. I'm saying I get how it came to be in regard to the bash on Jack. In my walk in life if some man his age was doing this to a woman her age and her response was like danas I'd say to him, "dude you better knock it off she's gonna think you're some ol perv" I still hold that if Ali were a man many of her faults would be overlooked.

Earth LMAO!! Hahahaha

Tide

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 05:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The major difference between Will/Dani and Ali in the BB house is that:

Will/Dani had a sense of humor.

This is a big deal. It comes across quite clearly in DR entries. To me, a true sense of humor requires self-awareness, self-acceptance and empathy. Will/Dani had these. Ali doesn't.

Earthmother

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 05:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that may be part of it Tide..they were quite humorous and really hard to dislike, not impossible IMO where Dani was concerned, but much harder than it is to dislike Ali. Jun is really just as bad as Ali when it comes to saying things that are not game related but just mean, however her quick wit is obvious.

I don't find Ali interesting or funny in any way shape or form. I don't think she has entertained me at all. How funny is a woman with a can of raid and a voice that makes me wish we still had blackboards in the classroom so I could run my nails down it for relief?

C1mag

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 05:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well Tide for all of Danis humor once again as the alpha female she got ripped appart here on these boards. I still hold that women in this game are held to a different standard. I would definitely take the alpha female with me to the finals. In the end no matter how many positive moves she made in the game she would be faulted for her mouth.

C1mag

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 05:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Earth I do agree that Ali was not Entertaining at all, but her drive to the finish line intrigued me enough to watch. Jun was Entertaining at times off and on. When she left for the VMA's there was an obvious void.

Spyder

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 05:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Irwin backwards is Niwri NOT Win ir!!!

If Ali says that Irwin backwards is Win ir
one more time I am climbing over the wall.

Ali claims that this is her family motto.

LOL

C1mag

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 05:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe if we were from P.A. We'd get it. About the winner thing that is. I didn't get it when I read it in her bio and I still don't. Perhaps she's just all confused LOL.

Earthmother

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 05:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
she is seperating the syllables. Why the hell didn't Jun really order poisonberry pie?

Meggieprice

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 05:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The Raid! The post above made me think about it... Maybe that is why they have been so depicable with their bashing- they are all being slowly poisoned by the constant spraying and they have gone demented.That could also be why Jun seems to be coaching Ali in how to win today.

Honestly- I could not have handled that- it is toxic and she just sprays everywhere and anywhere without regard. I saw her spraying their water cooler. Ack~!

Tide

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 06:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Earthmother wrote:

"How funny is a woman with a can of raid and a voice that makes me wish we still had blackboards in the classroom so I could run my nails down it for relief?"

Heh, heh. (funny EM)

I'm a speech pathologist. A raspy voice (in the absence of physical cause) is quite often the result of emotional "problems". I don't think Ali's voice is totally indicative of anything, but it does add to the picture.

Steveh

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 06:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I grew up (sort of) near Pittsburgh. This is the first I've seen that Irwin backwards in Win-ir. Someone here argued w/ me that since Ali doesn't explicitly say SPELLED backwards, that she means some other kind of backwards. No, really. Okay, then--but couldn't you pronounce "Win-ir" WHINER?

Heads up to Ali & family: Start saying it's an anagram for Win-ir.

Notorioussun

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 06:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1-I agree with you in all your comments. (except for Dani, I didn't find her humorous). The thing is, these people are taking all this much too seriously. It's a show, one that you can turn off if you want. What will they do if Ali wins? Commit hari kari (sp) or something? These same kind of house guests will probably be on next year too. What WILL you do? lol.

C1mag

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 06:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank GOD! I always smile when someone gets what I'm trying to say. This is just a game.

I also agree that the same types will be on next year as well. Hopefully a tad more mature but still basically the same.

Earthmother

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 06:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't plan on watching next year..I'm just going to come on these boards and pretend I know what's going on and start a bunch of crap..lol

Smokey

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Earthmother, that sounds a whole lot more fun! haha

Monalisahi

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag said: I find it interesting that some are so "disguted" with her comments but yet more than likely in private you have all said the same garbarge. Yes you have said you hate someone. Yes, you've even called a couple of close acpuaintances foul names behind their backs. You may have even said some not so nice things about a friends brat of a kid.


No, I haven't said I hate anybody, well at least not since I was a little kid and I would get in trouble for it. This isn't what bothers me about them anyway, if they want to give somebody that much power of them, so be it.

Yes, I have called people foul names behind their backs. But I didn't do it around the clock or else people would get sick of me. Besides, this isn't a problem I have with Ali and Jun either, I'm bored with it, but not disgusted.

Yes, I have said a child was a brat, AFTER I saw them behaving as a brat....but that wasn't the "B" word Ali and Jun used, and I've never called a child anything worse than a brat. And I would never say I was going to trash a gift from a parent especially on which meant so much to both of them.

I'm not disgusted with Ali and Jun for doing the same things I have done or would do. I'm disgusted by the things that they did say and do that I wouldn't. And I would be equally disgusted if a man said those things.

Now let me pose a question....did you ask why people were disgusted with Robert's nose picking when that's obviously something everybody has done?

C1mag

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Mona...So every adult you know stares at you and picks their nose? DAMN you hang with some strange folks. I openly admit I've referred to someones kid as a little b@stard before. I don't feel bad about it cause it was a private conversation. The only problem in this case with the girls saying his daughter is a "b" is because you got to hear the private conversation. They were blowing steam. You were just being nosey when they were blowing steam. Have you been around people who blow off steam and say a lot of very very stupid things? Sure ya have!

You were actually a voyer in their home. It wasn't up to you to decide what was acceptable and what wasn't when they were talking. Click if off if you didn't care for it. You were forwarned before you started lurking. If they had been in your home then they would have known that this type of talk was not acceptable. Well at least thats what you say here on this board. I doubt if it disgusted you too much or else you would have clicked it off.

As I keep saying... .I don't think that what they said was a good thing but I get the tone. I get why it happened and I see how the enivironment and the tempo has a lot to do with what comes out of their mouths. I even understood why Rob spouted half the garbage he did about women. I'm so in tune with the fact that it's a game that for as much as I could not stand Rob I kept saying if he makes it all the way I'd give him a real shot at the big money. I wouldn't dock him for his words. They all said crapola! If I were in the game I'd look at how he got there because if I had REALLY been concerned about his comments I would have told him to shut it. NO ONE in the house ever said to any of them... "hey not nice don't talk that way boys and girls" However, on this board there seems to be a lot of people who live golden lives and they would NEVER say anything bad or questionable in a private setting. Yeah Right!

Gonna say it again... it's a game! Words are said. It happens. Conversations were private. We were being nosey. They didn't have to say what we wanted to hear. They had one goal. Get to the end. The rules tell ya what you can do and how to do it. They did. Ali and Jun are now there. Bravo to the both of them. Hope Ali wins the whole thing based on her drive to the finish line. I could care less what she said about any of them and that includes someones daughter. Thats between her and Rob. She will appologize just like he appologized. life goes on. The two best players are in the finals as it should be. They all talked crap! Simply because they called someones daughter a "b" they are the spawn of hell? Well that makes no since because most of the females in the house were called "b's" and they are someones daughter as well but again if your out to villify these two then anything and everything they say will magnify times 100. As it's been pointed out. Some are just taking it too personal. Let it go. I do not advocate the things the said or support them but I realize I was being nosey when they said it privately. I realize it was blowing off steam. I realize it was none of my business. The environment is next to hell. Who knows what you may have done in there....

Gidget

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Earthmother, how is that different from any other year? :)

By the way the turtles were Cuff and Link and I was thinking they were my favorite guests too.

Wendo

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tide said, "A raspy voice (in the absence of physical cause) is quite often the result of emotional "problems". I don't think Ali's voice is totally indicative of anything, but it does add to the picture."

Oh good golly!


C1mag said, "However, on this board there seems to be a lot of people who live golden lives and they would NEVER say anything bad or questionable in a private setting. Yeah Right!"

Bingo!


What is it they say? Words are only words and they hurt only if you let them hurt.

Gidget

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Monalisahi, I liked your last post. I was at lunch with a group of coworkers today. 7 people got on a tangent ragging on another person who was not there. Everything they said about her was true. But after awhile I was feeling like I was on BB and I suggested several times that we have now torn her apart, let's move on to another subject.

I could NOT get the subject changed. Until the ice cream brownie was served.

Bondmaiden

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1 and Wendo. Might as well give it up. People on this board "demand" to be outraged. It is their "moral" right to be outraged and yadda yadda yadda. That's why they'll watch again next year and that's what Arnie knows. They "hope" nicer people will be the HGs' next year and so on and so on. Yeah people, that'll happen. Arnie will change the show just so some
viewers in middle America - Buttflack Missouri or some such place, won't get offended. The truth? You can't handle the truth. The true is no matter where you live, the show is not going to change nor the type of people Arnie wants for the show.

Monalisahi

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1, I'm not out to vilify these two, geez, I was rooting for Ali up until a couple of weeks ago, besides, they do a much better job at vilifying themselves. I've only stated my personal opinions on what they have done.

I completely disagree with the private conversation explanation. There are no private conversations in the BB house, this is something they not only know about, but agreed to and are getting paid for. I don't agree with the "environment" or "stress" rationale either because these 2 are the first and only hg's to stoop so low. What conditions are so different for them than any other hg?

And I think you are really misunderstanding what I have said. I certainly am not taking anything personal. They haven't said anything about me or my children. Geez, I don't know Robert and didn't even care for the guy, why would I take it personal. And who said anything about "spawn of hell?"

I've stated my opinion several times. I think the girls sunk to new levels. That's my opinion based on my personal standards. Your standards obviously differ from mine. But I will say this, I don't even expect as much from these hg's as I expect from myself or from my family. I can guarantee I would never have said those things about any hg's children.

I only made my post because you were saying Yes, you do this ....and that and yes, I have done some of those things, but those aren't the things that bother me about these girls. What bothers me are the things they have done that I wouldn't do.

Regardless, I don't think highly of any person who would call small children such names. There is simply no reason for it, and only shows a lack of character in the person doing it, IMO.

Wendo

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"That's why they'll watch again next year and that's what Arnie knows. They "hope" nicer people will be the HGs' next year and so on and so on."

And what's even more ironic Bondmaiden? Some will still refuse to turn it off. And they will continue to "complain" about the "offensive" houseguests they're watching. LOL!


Monalisahi, I would say Marcellus stooped as low, if not lower, than Jun and Ali, imo.