Jooleechenlvr | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 04:15 pm     Do you think Nathan was TOLD to veto Ali or was he just so wrapped up in her that he was blind to what she was doing? If he hadn't vetoed her, who would be in her place right now? Makes you wonder?? I wish all at the sequester house has kicked his butt for that stupid move of saving her. |
Texasdeb | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 04:19 pm     I do NOT think BB TOLD Nathan to veto Ali, however; IMO BB influenced him to veto her! I would have liked to have seen David still around at this point. Can you imagine all the dif. scenerios that could/should have gone on in BB4. It sure would have been more fun for us internet people. |
Vros | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 04:22 pm     Arnie, for God's sake take some time off. You're losing it. |
Cliotheleo | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 04:23 pm     I don't think I need to see the entire Jury kick Nate's butt. Just let Dave do it, that would be fine with me. |
Texasdeb | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 04:28 pm     Ok, how about tonight on the live show, b/4 the veto/vote, Julie tells the HGs that an old friend is coming back in for a visit: Dave enters the house & is allowed to stay 1 wk & do whatever damage he chooses (remember he's not sequestered & has seen everything). He's not back as a contestant though - just a thought! |
Cliotheleo | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 04:31 pm     Whooohooo!!!! And he brings Amanda with him!!!! Works for me!!!!!!!! |
Texasdeb | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 04:36 pm     I just want Ali's head messed with! Arnie, are you listening? Ali DOES make good TV but, please let us see something other than BB being in favor of her for F2. |
Sunshyne4u | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 04:51 pm     "For all of you that thinks BB is fixed" ???????THINKS?????? lol "Do you think Nathan was TOLD to veto Ali".......yes, just like the Survivor people were told to vote off Jeri. And if I recall correctly during the First season of Survivor there was also a similar situation. Sean, the doctor, was one of the witnesses as he was cohersed to change his vote. |
Gina8642 | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 04:51 pm     No matter who wins tonight - a bunch of people will say it was fixed and that BB told them do X. No matter who wins the whole thing, folks will be argueing that BB planned it from the beginning because they felt a such-and-such winner would be good for publicity, etc. Happens every year. No way to stop it. |
Jbfrommi | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 04:54 pm     I don't think Ali makes for good TV. I can't stomach watching big brother any more because of her playing up to the cameras. Yesterday I was watching Whoppi's new show and flipped over to bb during a commercial, Ali was on in the dr and it actually made me sick. Guess I have a weak stomach? |
Sunshyne4u | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 04:54 pm     If BB producers want Ali as the next HOH they will give the HGs an athletic comp or a MEMORY comp. I personally dont feel anyone with a gift of photographic memory should be allowed to do a show like this. It is an unfair advantage which has been obvious in a number of comps so far. |
Wendo | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 04:59 pm     "If BB producers want Ali as the next HOH they will give the HGs an athletic comp or a MEMORY comp." What other competitions are left? As far as an unfair advantage if one has a photographic memory and shouldn't be allowed to do this show? You're kidding me right. What you propose would be unfair. Keeping off a certain section of the population just because they have a photographic memory or have worked to develop one. |
Dram | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 05:07 pm     Game of chance perhaps? |
Sunshyne4u | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 05:08 pm     ?? you cant develop something that is a gift from birth! A good trained memory is NOT photographic memory. What I propose is not unfair. They dont allow wheelchair bound contestants or deaf contestants....is that not "keeping off a certain section of the population"? If everyone else on BB was in a wheelchair and Ali wasnt.....would you not say she has an adv'antage? If Ali has a TRUE photographic memory it would be like as if the other HGs have a true disability'. No question of it, IMHO. We all are entitled to our opinions. |
Texasdeb | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 05:16 pm     I'm definately not Ali fan material. You have to give her/BB the fact that she knows how to play to the camera & this is TV! I just think because of the lack of charisma this yr, BB "picked" Ali because they had to have something to keep viewers. It's time for BB to cut the strings & stop "helping" Ali get to the end. |
Wendo | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 05:20 pm     Sunshyne4u, I'm sorry, but a physical disability is much different than someone having a photographic memory. And, you are entitled to you're own opinion, I'm just disagreeing with it. I see no problem having contestants on game shows with photographic memories. |
Ladytex | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 05:21 pm     Why not? Survivor had the swimsuit model win and BB probably will have the pageant queen win ... |
Fabnsab | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 05:23 pm     I do think that BB plays with the HGs head in the DR alot. When you're in that house 24/7 with nothing but paranoia to keep you company, any little thing the DR says will be overanalyzed. They could have put out some " hypothetical" situations for Nate to think about the week he had veto and he thought about them all night to come up with his decision. Is it rigging? No, but it sure is meddling and I don't even like outside meddling. I want the nature of 13 people to take its course with no outside interruptions- well, maybe the occasional bullhorn lady or our Angels! |
Ladydewtel | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 06:38 pm     I dont know if thie belongs here or in another thread, but this is what I noticed tonight. When they show the pictures of those in the sequesteed house it had 2 images greyed out. You could tell it was Erika and Rob on there. So if you dont think its fixed just wait and see. Rob will be the next to go. I say it is definatly fixed. |
Cliotheleo | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 06:39 pm     Hah? |
Nexell2 | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:11 pm     Very interesting. |
Fan3 | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:26 pm     and this com was made just for Ali either huh? Doesn't take a rocket scientist to read the writting on the wall at CBS |
Kalekona | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:49 pm     Poor robert... let's have a comp. that envolves ice and cold something the ice skater is used to as well as the new yorker but poor cuban So Cal. guy robert is not use to that cold... he did pretty good but is an idiot to actually trust Ali. |
Nexell2 | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:49 pm     LoL |
Bastable | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:54 pm     Ladydewtel, those silhouettes are the same ones the show uses for everything. They alternate man-woman-man-woman. There was a 100% chance that the person evicted tonight had to be a woman. I think some people would accuse BB of fixing the show if both the silhouettes were female, too. Cold, hard fact: If they were fixing the show, they wouldn't air the correct silhouettes on national TV. They would hide the outcome. So it's fun to imagine we can predict the future AND assess the morality of the show producers from those little dummy images, but when you bring in logic, it just doesn't wash. |
Kaili | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 06:25 am     How about this "fix" scenario from the comp...I just posted this in another thread but this bothered me last night at the very, very start of the competition... Technically I think Jun and Alison both lost... At the very start they all put their hands on their keys, then both girls took their hands off to adjust their clothes/sweatshirts. Robert kept his hands there on the key until Julie said (after the women removed their hands) they would wait until they were ready (or whatever it was she said). I think it was then that Robert took his hands off and rubbed his hands to get ready. |
Gina8642 | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 06:36 am     so they fixed it by waiting to start judging the contest after they said it was started? and, it would not have been fixed if they started before they said it started? I'm confused!!! |
Kaili | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 06:56 am     It could have been started. I took it as it had started because they all put their hands on a key. When Jun and Alison took their hands off, Robert kept holding on for a bit like he wasn't sure if taht was okay or not. No, I don't really think it was fixed, but I myself had assumed it had started already at that point (for a second until Julie said they would wait). |
Shakes | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 07:08 am     Ladydewtel - I'm with you on the silhouettes of yet to be sequestered houseguests. To those of you who have a tape, take a look. The first image is obviously a woman with her hair down - long flowing hair - just like Erica. The second image looks like a woman with her hair pulled back into a ponytail or bun - it does not look like Robert's odd-spiky-cowlick hairdo. It is hard to tell if it could be Alison or Jun, as both of them tie their hair back often, but I do believe one of the remaining women will not make the final two. |
Cricket | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 08:17 am     I agree with Texadeb's first post. Nathan may have been 'influenced' to save her. I too would like to have seen Dave in the house longer, if not the winner. He would have played with the Stooges head so much. He would have been a good competitor (rather than Ali) in the HOH and Veto comps. The game may have seemed less one-sided then. |
Boberg | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 06:29 am     Silhouettes....did review my tapes..the same silhouettes have been used since the beginning like Bastable said and yes they alternate male/female...no conspiracy or fix in the silhouettes! |
Sunshyne4u | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 09:54 pm     I actually think the BB producers would LOVE Rob in the final two.........WHY? you ask. Well they could milk more emotions by shoving the Camera at his young daughter again. Maybe, if the producers are really lucky, she will cry 'on cue' again. Mama is cute enough to have her OWN show! I still cant believe her mom would allow her to be manipulated like this. Rob isnt even the custodial parent and HASNT SAID A WORD about using ANY of the money for anything to do with his daughter. Rolex, porsche and a Big Trip to Vegas. |
Carrieb | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 10:03 pm     Sunshyne, Rob's daughter was definitely not crying on cue. I have two small children and if I had been gone for 3 months and they only had 2 minutes to talk to me on the phone, they'd be crying too. Especially when I had to tell them I wasn't coming home immediately. |