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Jillybean

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OMG I can't believe how this girl thinks she is such a fox! she is so full of herself and she thinks she is the eqivilant to Pamela Anderson ( in the looks) department... LOL She wants Erica ousted because she knows Erica will turn heads and she doesn't... anybody else thinks June needs a clue?

Ryanc829

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think you must be a mind reader or something. Seriously, I agree that Jun is full of herself but I think you're exaggerating just a bit.

Castalinas

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't like Jun but she is right. Erica and Nathan need to go right away before it's too late and they win everything.

Jillybean

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I never said I was a mind reader (Ryan) but June didnt't give any of thse guys a change and she wants to get rid of them already... trust me she wants to be the center of attention.

Auntiemike

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun seems like a typical New Yorker (oh, oh, now I am in trouble) by being confident, assertive and maybe "brash". She needs to be strong and full of confidence to make it in the financial world as an Asian female, in my opinion. I would be willing to give her a few more episodes to settle down and see her developing strategy.

Eliz87

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think she should have gotten her reality check when the guy sharing her room wanted to wait to see who else showed up rather than share his bed with her, per her offer.

Gunga

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun (not June) is full of herself for no good reason shes not good looking. Recall when she asked to share the bed with I think Nat and he didnt bite. Shes not great looking on camera and I have a feeling close up looking in the house shes fugly.

Willsfan

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hmmm I think she's kind of funny. Right now I'm not disliking anyone except maybe Scott. He's a little rough around the edges or something. (can't explain it)

Jillybean

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just saw June in her bikini... LOL and she needs major work.. she should get her head out of the oven and into the gym! (pronto)

Jillybean

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok Jun then.. i stand corrected, thanks (Will) Oh and Auntie im from Manhattan and we do not act like her( snobbish attention life seeker) that she is.. Plain to see she is insecure and needs a reality check like I said...

Tishala

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun is a hoot! She makes me giggle.

Kmjm

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Why so much contempt for a woman whose body is less than model perfect?

Eliz87

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe she's just trying to be this year's Amy. Or maybe she's trying to use the Will strategy -- to come off really evil at first and then, well, you know.

OR...maybe you're right Jilly! ;-)

Eliz87

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
KMJM, I don't think the contempt is because her body is less than perfect, it's because she seems to imagine herself AS perfect (when clearly, she is not), and says as much, that is the problem.

Ryanc829

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kmjm - Maybe because she seems to think that her body is "model perfect".

Kmjm

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Does she? Did she actually say that? Or is it just because she's an intelligent confident outspoken woman?

Tishala

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, I think you are right kmjm....if a woman likes her body, we pretend she says it's perfect because women are taught to be ashamed of our bodies, even those that are closer to "perfect."

Dallasbbfan

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry, but she has a right to think her body is perfect. If she looks in the mirror and likes what she sees she is perfect. Doesn't sound insecure at all. Maybe she isn't perfect to us, but what we think doesn't really matter.

Gunga

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dont care about her body. Her additude is pissy keeps complaining and make rude comments.

Tishala

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I said it last night: they criticize "internet geeks" and we blow a gasket, but we are the first to criticize her for her body. How odd.

Curlyq

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't have the feeds, so only have the hearsay to go on, but it sounds like she may be using both Will and Amy's strategies. Maybe she's trying to be unlikeable so she will seem the least threatening for the win, and at the same time create a character that'll get more TV time. The producers may have even told her that she was cast to be this character, the way they tried to tell Chiara she was supposed to play the girl next door.

If she really does have an over-inflated view of her looks, then I don't have a problem with it as long as it isn't at the expense of those around her. I just couldn't stand the "I have to be the hottest" mentality last year's girls exhibited.

Auntiemike

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dallas: I like your thinking. I look in the mirror everyday and say "my body is perfect...NOT" and I truly believe it. I am so secure with that fact! LOL, just kidding you. I actually agree that she doesn't sound insecure at all.

Jillybean

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
(kmjm) its not about her less then perfect body .. not at all! But she potrays herself like that and its not because she is confident either OK.. She acts like she is Pamela ANDERSON OR Something... if she is going to talk the talk.. She had better walk the walk...

Tishala

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"I just saw June in her bikini... LOL and she needs major work.. she should get her head out of the oven and into the gym! (pronto)"

That sounds like it IS about her body, IMHO

Kmjm

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My question is, did SHE compare herself to Pamela Lee Anderson (I think she's too intelligent not to consider that an insult LOL) or are you assuming that she thinks that way because she's sassy and confident? Can only beautiful women with perfect bodies have high self-esteem?