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TV ClubHouse: Archive: "LIttle B***h . . .Cuban F****t," question.: Archive through September 16, 2003

Steveh

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 05:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
On tomorrow night's show, should CBS air a segment where viewers can see these epithets being spewed?

Millions are watching the TV show and not watching the live feeds or patrolling the boards.

Gidget

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 05:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here, here. Give us the whole picture, please. AS insults our intelligence with his sophomoric <sp> editting

Smokey

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Count me as one who would appreciate this shown to the TV audience.

Steveh

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought I may have duplicated a thread w/ this question, but now see that I haven't. The similar thread asks if Julie should call them on this behavior. I don't know about that. But I do think CBS should run a segment and give Jun and Ali the opportunity to explain themselves in the DR.

Ezgoing

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Show it. Did it with Robert, and it has turned into a fairly significant issue with Jun and Ali now that they know. It was included in theInternet chat questions (and aired on the show) so ground has been broken. Give Jun and Ali the chance to take responsibility, apologize, become aware, or tell us whatever they want about their choices. But don't hide it. That's risking credibility, which diminishes the entire BB premise Shapiro wants to promote.
JMHO

Carrie92

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Abso - freaking - lutely! I am appalled at how skewed tonight's episode was.

I cannot believe they brought up Robert's comments - more than once - even after we already saw it all last week. Yet, they neglect to show the venom that Alison and Jun have spewed forth?

Ugh, I'm so disgusted. Thinking of writing production... the email address is aspproductions@aol.com if anyone is interested.

Kalekona

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Reading the live feeds it said the camea kept following Robert perhaps they are going to show what the girls have been saying about him while showing him going about his business unaware.

I think they will leave out any meantion of Elana.

Avrey258

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They usually start of the live show on Wednesday with a compilation of clips...things that have happened since Sunday. That is where we left off on tonight's T.V. show. Hopefully we will get the real story on Wednesday's show.
They showed Robert and Erika's negative comments so it would seem fair to show Jun and Ali's comments. I am not holding my breath though.

Ark

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I sincerely hope not. We've already seen that Robert's daughters is allowed to watch the show. She's already going to be sad because daddy is voted off. The last thing she needs is to hear any of the name calling.

Gidget

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This is not a show for a 7 year old. Period. Any view of Daddy should be editted via VCR.

Bastable

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Correct, Gidget. If I'm not mistaken, it's often rated TV-PG. That "PG" means "parental guidance." So parents are clearly warned at the start of every episode. Any parent can use their V-chip to make sure their kids don't see it.

Carrie92

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
We don't really know if Elena actually watches the show. It could be that her mom tapes it and shows her the clips of her dad. Anyone who has watched the show in the past knows what kind of stuff goes on.

Fan3

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well I for one wrote Mr. S hope everyone else does too. as they teach us in customer service you look at the complains for every one there is likely to be 10 as most people look the other way. So make your opinion of those two calling a child awful names is not acceptable,

Ark

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What good is it going to do to write Mr. S? Does anyone think that he finds calling a child a name acceptable? I don't think he does. It wasn't on TV it was only heard on the LF. It's over and done, what could he possibly do about it now, other than not air it, which I don't think he'll do?

Steveh

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The question is not does Shapiro find it acceptable to call a child a name. The question is this, "If you call a child a name on TV, does that make for 'good television'?" Based on the genre he works in, I'm thinking his answer is yes.

Crossfire

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I would write to Arnold if he were the one to make the remarks, but I'm not sure what the goal is in letting him know a couple of his guests are unpleasant. Some guests are picked for that very reason, and while I don't often like them personally, I do like that they are on the show.

It's a classic good vs evil fight. This time, good has lost. That's just how it happens sometimes.

Kristylovesbb

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think anything said about Robs child should air and I don't believe it will be aired. I would never allow my child to see this show but if there is any chance that she will be watching it should not be shown. There is NO acceptable reason to show something that will hurt a child.

Trinity63

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I missed it -- what happened?

Monalisahi

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If it's about Elena seeing the show, that could be fixed with a phone call to her mother and giving her an edited tape.

Steveh

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If there were no acceptable reason to show something that would hurt a child on TV, then you can kiss goodbye about 95% of all prime time network and premium programming.

Kristylovesbb

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 09:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Those shows don't pin point one child in particular. That is what I am against.

Wendo

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 09:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As far as I know, the comments about Rob's daughter have not aired on tv. Therefore, I don't think AS and his production company have done anything wrong nor a need to write a complaint. The events have happened on the live feed, a live feed that does, in fact, carry warnings that it's appropriate only for adults.

In fact, here's the information:

"The live and on-demand content (the "Content") may contain elements offensive to some users and inappropriate for users under 21. Certain Content may be delayed, edited and/or blacked out at various times at our sole discretion. You agree that we shall have no liability whatsoever relating to the Content and you waive any claims you may have, now or in the future, against us relating to the Content. You agree to comply with our Terms of Service."

Looks like we were sufficiently warned when we chose to sign up and watch the feeds that there may be things seen on the feeds we may find offensive. So what is there to complain about?

Pixieduster

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 09:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think they should cover Jun's and Ali's commments on the show. They very prominently included Erica's comment, and of course Robert's for the public to see. And yes, Julie even called Robert out on his comments. I think it's absolutely appropriate for them to include Ali's and Jun's comments about Robert's heritage. I am torn about the name calling they both did referring to Robert's daughter, because I am concerned that his daughter may see this.

If they don't show that Jun and Ali have been equally guilty of these types of slurs, then I'm much more likely to believe that Arnie, et al, are manipulating the outcome (call me naive if you think that's already a given) or at the very least are going to some lengths to protect the image of their future winner knowing that it will be Jun or Ali.

Juiceman

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 09:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Truly disgusting and I am still so disapointed with the comments coming from Jun and Alison. Im being told there was an incident where Alison brandished a bottle like a knife and commented that she was 'gonna kill your daughter [robs]'

Does anyone have any more info on that incident?

If that is the case then I demand to know why Alison has not been ejected for threatening violence??

She has repeatedly promised and threatened to assault and punch other guests yet somehow nothing is being said about it??

..oh ya.. I am also baffled as to how Robs statement (despite several apologies) keeps getting attention and air time and these two get presented as 'slightly miffed' and 'catty' yet no actual quotes from them.

Crazy. My opinion of the show has really dropped now.

Cliotheleo

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 09:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, I didn't see the incident, but even if she did say/do that, I'm guessing that Ali didn't get ejected because Elaina (sp?) doesn't actually live in the house.