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Jimmer

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 09:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't feel sorry for him at all. It was his choice to have Ali as a girlfriend and if he didn't know her well enough to realize what she is like, then he is simply pathetic.

Steveh

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 09:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
To Whom It May Concern: Donnie doesn't play for Pitt, he plays for Bloomsburg, a school that doesn't give athletic scholarships and probably has never sent a player to the NFL. I could be wrong about the last assertion, but I doubt it.

Weinermr

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 10:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't believe it's him.

Spear

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 10:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If you want to bash "Donny" about his grammar and spelling, please note that "embarrass" is spelled with a double 'R'.

Beruthiel

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 11:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And Vouge is spelled vouch, Pitty is spelled pity, and creditability is spelled credibility, and yet, this person spelled embarrass correctly.
Do we know how to spell 'dictionary'?

I don't believe it's him either.

Spear

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What about "truely"?

And while we're feeling well-educated, let's pretend that these ones don't keep showing up on this board:

could/should/would of -- could/should/would have
ought/had to of -- ought/had to have (This one just kills me.)

could care less -- couldn't care less

Beruthiel

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 01:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
There are many errors which appear on the board, often simply because of haste and carelessness, and/or typos, but we are discussing the post which is supposedly from Alison's boyfriend Donny, and thus the spelling errors are fair game, as evidence from which to deduce whether or not this person is genuine.
Please don't criticise others for exercising judgement in a thread initiated for just that purpose.
By the way, I do happen to have two degrees in English, one of which is a teaching qualification, so if my schoolmarm manner offends you, I regret it, but my point still stands.

Wendo

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 01:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Eh, mine was a typo, typing to fast. Whoops.

Beruthiel

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 03:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP

Spear

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 03:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry Beruthiel, I honestly wasn't criticizing you -- I was even too dull to realize that you were criticizing my post the first time. Yes, everyone makes mistakes so I really wasn't trying to be sarcastic and say that no one should ever post unless they make no errors. I simply thought it was funny for people to make spelling errors while commenting about "Donny's" errors as evidence of his lack of education. (To be fair, I didn't see anyone use the mistakes as evidence that the post was fake.) Then I took the opportunity to sneak in my pet peeves.

And Wendo, that should be "too".

Beruthiel

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 04:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Don't worry about it, Spear, I took you the wrong way. I'm sorry too, but it's funny, because I'm often misunderstood in the same way myself - Hoist with my own petard! LOL!
Just take no notice of me, I'm sick and crabby tonight, and not at my best. My sense of humour usually saves me from being a complete curmudgeon, but not tonight!
Frantically speedreading for possible typos and spelling errors!

Sasman

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 05:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
there is a spelling checker that you can turn on by going to your profile.....

Sheilaree

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 05:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Do you people have anything better to talk about someone 's grammer. People can make mistake, give the guy a break. Please
What about your own grammer, I know I make mistakes with my own grammer

What555456

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Donnie's story is the perfect reason for not signing a release just because your friend (or even lover) is going on TV. Ali's actions have humiliated him in front of all of his friends and family. Why would anyone sign up for that?

If someone I was close to wanted to go on TV, the LAST thing I would do is sign a release allowing myself to be used in whatever way the TV producers want to use me for the entertainment of the masses.

Fuzzyb

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I do make mistakes with my grammar. But I've never really had problems with my grammer.

Kaili

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 07:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow- you guys would tear apart my emails!!! And my mom's! When I write like that, I tend to write quickly, not bother with spell check as long as my point gets across, and forget captialization. It's not that I can't write, I actually write really well when it's necessary. However, for a post like that I think I would make an effort to be extremely articulate and precise- and to make it look good. Doesn't matter though- the content is the point of it, not the spelling of the words.

Lancecrossfire

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 08:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The topic is if the message was really written by Donnie. We've drastically moved away from that topic, discussing the worth of a person based on how well they spell and the grammar they use.

Time to move away from that, and back to if Donnie wrote the message or not.

Landi

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 09:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i never capitalize, can get my grammar mixed up, yet i am consistently a good speller, does that make me worth criticizing? no.

as for the message from donny (donnie?) only the moderator/admin can tell for sure.

so please let us be informed of whether or not this is the true donny and quit the speculation.

Lostintheglades

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 10:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ditto what Kaili said. (Seems like she always speaks for me.)

I read the site...but what I noticed first was how the poster was received. I can't imagine someone posting to this site and being responded to in such a terrible way.

I'm would like to think that until we were certain who the poster was, we would not be nearly as mean as those people were.

Outlawout

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 10:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
As a college English teacher, I can say that the grammar and spelling errors in the message aren't at all uncommon for a current college student, unfortunate as that may be, mostly because poor spelling is often an indication of not having read much. I find that very sad.

I can also say, in my humble but professional opinion, that "correctness" of grammar is an artificial construct. It's nice if we all basically use the same grammar, but there are literally hundreds of grammars in the English language, so if one person says something and the person its being said to understands,it is always/already grammatical. We privilege one specific grammar above others (called standard edited English), and it's definitely the one I teach and encourage my students to use in profesional situations. But being TOO hung up on "proper" grammar is missing the whole point of grammar.

I don't know whether the poster is Donny, but I don't really care. I do care how people beat each other up with language "shibboleths"

Although my training probably makes me notice such "errors" more than most people on the average board, I wouldn't even consider drawing attention to these things. I find it hostile and unnecessarily mean.

Gemma120in2002

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 10:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I do sympathize with Donny. Having once gone through a vicious divorce, I can definately sympathize. Youth and naivety can completely obscure what would be obvious to an impartial observer.

Nobody deserves to be subjected to humiliation on an international level. Donny didn't enter this game, he supported his girlfriend when she entered the game. Then he got to see her in action as an outside observer, and has probably seen her manipulate Nathan and Justin the same way she has manipulated him. Fortunately they haven't had children or purchased property together (I assume), so he can walk away pretty cleanly.

What will Ali find waiting for her upon returning to her normal life? She will probably find herself without a date for a very long time. She could get an acting role as a villain on a Soap. She wouldn't even have to act! she can just be herself.

Wendo

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 11:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Darn Spear. Again typing TOO fast. LOL!

Cagri

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 11:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Steveh, Bloomsburg certainly gives athletic scholarships. It is a division 3 school. While it is certainly smaller and less 'prestigious" than Pitt, that in no way means that the school fails to provide quality education.

Missy2

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 11:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You know what? It's a game! I like Alison and I like how she has played!! If this is really her guy then he is not worth it! Alison is really young, but she's played a good game. She's still immature, and she is under the magnify glass of bb - everything gets torn apart and blown out of proportion.

I hope Ali goes to the final two and I wish her the best outside of BB-Land.

Bohawkins

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, Outlawout... I noticed that Donny had used the improper syntax when he attempted the pluperfect subjunctive mood. I was appalled. (I'm using appalled in the transitive sense, of course.)