BB producers better do something about Robert!
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Gina8642 | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 10:22 am     All these arguments may be moot. Last year I seem to remember in post game interviews that Jason really didn't have any time to communicate with the rest of the jury prior to the vote. Even with the extended schedule this year, I don't think Robert will have much more. Robert will (probably) evicted Wednesday the 17th. The jury will probably be brought to L.A. sometime Fri, Sat, or Sun for the final Q & A session shoot. The final vote will probably be done on Monday, giving the BB crew a full day to edit together the final show. Robert will probably be held in sequester by himself for a few days rather than rush him to Mexico and back. (Much like Eric was held in San Diego when Amy was brought back. The BB crew didn't waste the time moving him to Mexico and back in a short timespan.) Anyways - Robert is not going to have more than an evening at most to spend with the rest of the jury prior to the vote. I don't think he's very persausive in the first place. I don't think this will be enough time for him to do much damage one way or the other. |
Prisonerno6 | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 10:27 am     "The final vote will probably be done on Monday," Wasn't the final vote live last year? |
Sanfranjoshfan | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 10:28 am     Evicted HGs discussing what happened in the house after they were evicted is no different than HGs discussing what is happening while they are still in the house. All Robert can do is express his own personal point of view to the others. All Robert knows is what he sees, hears and/or is told by Ali and Jun. I heard Robert telling Ali at one point that he could "guarantee" votes from Justin, Jee, Dana, Jack, and Erika (I think that was the five he claimed control over). He pointed out that those five are enough to win the game. Okay, how come Robert all of a sudden is the spokesperson for all the evicted HGs? I never saw any election to make him their leader. Robert can "guarantee" the ex HG's votes about as much as he can guarantee that he can introduce everyone to "Barry Drewmore"! LOL In any case, sequestered HGs are still playing the game, so they are *supposed* to affect the outcome of the game... If they are NOT playing the game, then they are being held against their will with no justification. Wouldn't that be called "kidnapping"? |
Gina8642 | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 10:46 am     The final vote was done a day or two before hand last year. Just like early in the season the actual votes were done Tuesday morning. BB then takes the DR entries and edits them together for the Wednesday show. They do the same thing with the final vote. The only thing 'live' about the final vote is that it is revealed live. |
Prisonerno6 | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 10:51 am     I thought last year they all sat in front of the F2 and gave the votes live one by one. Either Roddy or Eric was the one to give Lisa the majority vote, and Dani didn't get a vote until the very end, which was, of course, Jason. |
Crazydog | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 10:56 am     Kalekona, that's right, they are not supposed to reveal how they voted, so I suppose that theory would carry on to when there was only one person voting. But that's after the votes have been made. I still think there's nothing to prevent them from telling someone in advance (before the votes are cast) that they are going to be leaving. Other houseguests have been told that they are leaving, or at least hinted at. In just this season alone, Dave all but certainly knew he was gone, and Alison flat out told Erika that she was leaving when she told Robert and Erika to make sure they danced for her before Wednesday. It's only after the vote has been actually done that they can't say anything. But I know in past seasons as well, houseguests have been pretty much told that they were out. |
Gina8642 | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 10:56 am     They pulled keys out of the key box live - which revealed their earlier vote. The keys had the name of the person they wanted to win already on the key. Each jury member placed the one of two keys in the box earlier (one or two days earlier). In this earlier session they had two keys to pick from - one for Danielle, one for Lisa. So, they had already made their choice before the show. |
Flamingo | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 10:57 am     They did do the votes live last year. 2 years ago they pretaped them. |
Laffy | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 11:06 am     this is not a game show under fcc rules anyway, it's a reality show. it never was intended to be a game of intellectual skill, knowledge, or chance. reality shows weren't even around when the game show scandals occurred and are not subject to the same rules (as i understand it). the fact that each hg gets "paid" for their time on the show makes them employees rather than contestants. they have a contract with cbs to provide an entertaining tv show and, in return, two of them get a bonus at the end. in a game show you win or lose, in bb you get paid for your work based on the shows criteria. |
Steveh | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 11:08 am     I watched that Bravo special last night about reality TV and they had a brief segment on the rules Rainwoman has cited and they very specifically said (as Prisonerno6 has noted here independent of the the Bravo show) that those rules do not apply to Big Brother. The rules are for games based on intellectual or skill competitions, not popular votes. But even if they did, Robert has no POWER to influence anyone to do anything and he doesn't have enough skill to sell a glass of water for a nickel to someone dying of thirst. Isn't the whole object of the game to manipulate people into voting a certain way. If Robert is guilty of a felony, then so too will be Jun and Alison when they attempt to sway the jury members on Sept. 24. No? |
Gina8642 | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 11:12 am     If it was live - how did they get the key of their choice in the slot? And where did the taped segments of them placing the key in the box come from - where they were wearing different clothes and sitting in a different room? |
Crazydog | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 11:13 am     Flamingo and Prisoner, it is as Gina said. The votes were REVEALED live, but they were actually CAST beforehand. The keys that were in the box had the voter's name on the big square handle part, and either Lisa or Danielle's name was on the notched part. The votes were done in advance. They simply revealed them live. And this was the same way it was done in BB2 as well. I remember when Will got the vote that put him over, Shannon gave a little cheer and clap and Julie told them to allow everyone to reveal their vote. |
Tabbyking | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 11:14 am     is this show still on? lol |
Sunshyne4u | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 01:28 pm     Laffy.....I think you are right. These 'contestants' are employees on a Reality Show. We have seen questionable wins in HOH comps and Veto comps. As the HGs are in a reality show (not really playing a gameshow), the setting up of certain people to win is allowed. MIND YOU, Rainwoman has the right to voice her theory without being jumped on. ******* What I have a problem with is the one on one 'threatening behaviour' was exhibiting. When you are harrassing someone and "in their face" that can be taken as a threat. It left Jun very uncomfortable. ******* As for Ali, she has yet to talk about her past deal with Rob. I still think Ali is going to do a double cross and take Rob. We shall see.......in a few more days LOL |
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