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Bigbrotherfan

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Just caught up on live feeds from last night & am shocked that Robert is still viewed as the most revolting HG left after reading the following posts:

Jun saying she was one of the first to use RU-4-86, calling Elena a B----, and then referring to Robert as a "C*s*ing Cuban F*k" (pot calling the kettle black?).

Then more general Alison lies and malipulation of the truth. I don't need to go look for quotes from her, it's on 24 hours a day from her mouth.

The thing that gets me is that it doesn't seem that it would be strategy anymore since they don't seem to be hiding their disdain for him and are saying these things when the *know* how the other feels already.

I thought I would be sick at Jun's admission. I can't believe I was rooting for her to win. I don't care what Robert does with the money, the other two have not shown anything, in my eyes, to think they're better people outside this house and that this is all just well-thought-out strategy.

Naja

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What really gets to me most are the lies and name calling Ali does now that can in no way help further her in the game.

For example: The other night Jun mentioned to Ali that Erika said she had told Ali that CBS is affiliated with MTV somehow (this was when they were in the midst of trying to figure out the clues for the MTV HoH contest). Well, Ali went on a big rampage about how that was a lie and then went on to call Erika a "psycho" lying $^%$&% and many other horrible names that I won't repeat. Well, Erika DID tell Ali the 2 were affiliated. I was watching the feeds when it happened. I just don't get Ali. What the heck was the point of that name calling episode? sheesh. I think she rewrites history in her own head and then actually believes herself.

Katlady53

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with both of you.

I do NOT understand the constant Erika bashing. What kills me are the crocodile tears Ali shed when she evicted Erika. I knew they were fake at the time she shed them, and the things she's saying about Erika now prove I was correct.

Csnog

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The two girls have each other to feed off. Robert is alone. If Robert had another male in the house you would hear the same.

The only thing that the HG's have in common is the game and at this point they are bored.

I too wish that they would stop the bashing but "it aint gonna happen"

Next week we will have a full week of recrap of the past 3 months from the 2 of them. It's all they know.

Charvie

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What I find ironic about Jun's comment about Elena is that she is also the person who was most offended by Robert's comments about women and was wondering why America would like him after making such comments. Also she is the one who repeatedly stated how will he be able to deal with men calling Elena those names. And here she sits, calling Elena that name before any man gets the chance to.

Gen

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with all three of you. These girls are so hatefully. Another example is both of them have called Jack a pervert. This totally uncalled for and could ruin a man's life. From what I've seen in the programs and on live feeds, Jack has always been a gentleman and courteous to all. He was maybe a bit boring in his conversations, but he was trying to start conversations with some substance to discuss. To me, Allie's and Jun's behavior is inexcusable.
Neither of them should win - by winning, it condones such behavior.

Angelbleu

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have not turned on my feeds in a few days because I can not stand any of the 3 that are left...I am so dissappointed in this years BB....there is no one left to route for so I don't care how it ends...maybe they played the game and deserve the money...but they sure don't deserve my routing for them....

Nmbeach

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am right there with all of you. They know that they are now going to get some money, so why all the bashing of all the other houseguests. Erika was so nice to Ali when she was in the house, and it really does bother me the way she talks about her now. I am totally shocked at Jun calling a sweet innocent child such awful names. Jun claims to be so educated, and wants to excel in the business world, and that is certainly not the way to do it. I can't imagine anyone hiring her after hearing the awful things that come out of her mouth.

I only hope that both of these girls do chats after the show, and that everyone shows up and calls them out on all this ugliness. If they only knew that we would all be cheering them on if they were sitting around talking about the fun they had in the house with everybody, maybe they would straighten up!

As is, it is sickening to think one of them will be let out on the street with $500,000!

Missapril

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun didn't say a thing Robert hadn't said about someone else. I have no problem at all with a woman using the 'b' word to describe the daughter or any relative of a man who has also used that word to describe other women. There are consequences for every action, and if you choose to a derrogatory word against a woman for being a woman, then all women in your life are likewise subject to that kind of treatment. It's just Karma. The hypocrisy on this board has surpassed any I've noted from the hg's...

Charvie

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
How is it possible to justify anyone saying such a horrible thing about a 7 year old, no matter who her parent/s are? There is no excuse for Jun to say such things about a little girl.

Ladytex

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think it's hypocrisy because they have taken Robert to task already. I also don't think that just because Robert said it, it makes it okay for those other two to say it. And I definitely don't believe that the sins of the father necessarily have to be revisited on the child. Because her father acted like a putz, does not make it right for Jun and Ali to bad mouth the daughter. But then I guess there will always be those who defend those two <> whatever they do ...

Kalekona

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Missapril you don't have a problem with a grown woman calling a child that name because her father uses it?
You deserve to be in that house with Ali and jun since it sounds like your morals are on the same level. Maybe your worse your in the real world with those thoughts but they are in an inclosed enviornment.
your statement is one of the worse i've heard all summer.

Crossfire

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, that's just not fair either. You can't justify kicking dirt at relatives because one of them is not a saint.

You wanna talk Karma and hypocrisy? Rise above it all, and don't call anyone anything. Just because the pig is rolling in mud doesn't mean the chicken has to jump in as well.

Kellannie1

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The problem I have with Jun calling Elena this is that Elena is still a CHILD.

Are you saying it is ok for an adult to call a child a B---- if their father calls a woman one???? I am not thrilled with Robert's use of names but at least Ali and Jun can stand up to him about it if they so choose to. Elena is only 7 years old and is not in the postition to do anything about being called this.

What floors me is that Jun would call a child this and then say she wants so bad to be a Mother.

Lorry

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I wish BB would force Ali and Jun to apologize on live tv for calling that 7 year old a bi*ch ! I would rather they shut the show down now, nobody winning, then to see either of those women win money. I bet if they polled the other HGs... they also would rather no winner be declared than to see those two get it... JMO

I have always liked all the HGs... some more than others, some way less... but I've always considered it just a game... and that out of frustration, words would be heated.

However, there is a limit to what is game and what is just horrendous behavior. Jack is labeled a pervert, Elena persecuted and she is not even one of the HGs, nor can her Father defend her when he has no idea what is being said. How do you think Nathan's family will feel about his being labeled gay?

The limit has been breeched and neither woman deserves to win. JMO

I find it difficult to even imagine why I was so silly to think these young woman were just playing a game. It is just sad.

They are the Morton Downey Jr of the reality show world. I almost feel sorry for them... but not really.

Earthmother

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun didn't say a thing Robert hadn't said about someone else. I have no problem at all with a woman using the 'b' word to describe the daughter or any relative of a man who has also used that word to describe other women.

Am I reading that comment right? That child has no control over her father's actions...shame shame for condoning such viciousness. Jun claims she wants to be a mother (God forbid).

Missapril

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, sorry! I was under the terribly mistaken impression that Jun and Ali might be someone's daughters, too...

hypocritical much people? LOL! too easy!

Lancecrossfire

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
One difference in the above example is that Robert did his name calling because of what he saw about them (Ali, Jun, etc). He didn't call them names because of something their fathers had said.

Avrey258

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The only thing I've learned about Jun and Ali in the last week is that they are more alike than I first thought. I believe they spend 90% of their time bashing, cursing and maligning the other houseguests. It doesn't make any sense either.

I guess they are not mature enough to talk about anything else. I wonder if Jun's Bob or Ali's family are cringing in horror at their behavior?
BTW, as horrid as calling Rob's daughter a b!tch was, I really felt bad when they talked about the white butterfly. That was low.

Missapril

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Uh, so you must be saying the women actually ARE w's, b's and sl's, since Robert saw them being the same? Duh? Do you people even think about what you write or bother to read it when you do? LOL!

Spunky

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The producers must be scratching their heads... for the first time we have finalists that are so despised by the majority and this will only increase the criticism towards the whole idea of a BB game.

They must realize the internet viewers are upset with the things these two are saying and I can't understand why they don't try to "direct" them a bit better. They have a DR, they should use it to alert the hgs that they are being hateful and many are complaining. This won't improve Ali or Jun's nature but it would make it better for us so that we don't get so irate at what we hear.

One hopes that if they do come to this board or other websites, they realize how bad they really were and maybe be humbled a bit. But I think they just couldn't care less.

Crossfire

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, but we are holding them accountable for THEIR actions, not their parents. Ooops.

Mystery

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Since Robert has said equally foul things, I wish the title of this thread were "such lovely people left in the house." I guess there are still people who believe that women should be more gracious than men and who are surprised to find that that's not so.

Nmbeach

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun & Ali are adults. Robert's daughter is a 7-yr. old child. How can you compare? Just admit Missapril, you put your foot in your mouth.

Lancecrossfire

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
No, I am not saying that women are really that way--I said Robert saw them (Ali, Jun, or whomever he makes the comments about) because of what they have done, not their fathers, brothers, sisters, or teachers.

I didn't in any way say his comments were valid--only that it was his perception.

Yes I do think about what I write.