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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Who do you want to win BB4, and why? Jun or Alison: Archive through September 19, 2003

Bondmaiden

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 11:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
TRUE TRUE, wouldn't everyone go nuts? lol

Celticone

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 11:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I would like to bring Jack back into the house. I want Jack to win.

Katlady53

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 11:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh please, Notorioussun, don't wish that on us! I nearly had a stroke when Jenna won Survivor last season! AAAAHHHHH! :)

Cliotheleo

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 11:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry Celticone, even if they brought Jack back in, he wouldn't get any votes when the jury realized that Dave has been living in the desert room all this time. :)

Bomom

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 12:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Naja-
I agree with you. Since the deciding factor in the game is to get the most votes from evicted hg's, the person who both made it to the end AND made it without making enemies along the way is the smarter player.

I also think it takes skill to play this way. The object of the game is to stay cooped up for the longest period of time with a group of strangers who are basically there to beat each other by any means. Add to the mix that to win you must get these people who have been with you to vote for you in the end. I think Jun's "stir the pot and then step back" strategy was very smart. It kept the target off her back and avoided alot of direct confrontation with other hg's. She was an active participant, contributed to the house, and flew above the radar without calling too much attention to herself. I would vote in the end for the person who played smarter (Jun), not harder (Ali).

Sanfranjoshfan

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 12:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I want Jun to win. Why? It's simple....because I want Ali to LOSE.

Blurose

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 12:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cliotheleo what do you mean that dave has been living in the desert room all this time???? Are you serious

Cliotheleo

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 12:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes I'm serious Blu, didn't you know? Text description


No, I'm not serious, I'm just carrying over a joke from the other night. Read the end of this thread...........

Link to the "Any Chance at All" thread

Starting at 7:32 pm

Bmh

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 12:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I want Jun to win just so Ali wont

Jun controlled the entire house and managed to not be a threat the entire game.

Blurose

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 12:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ohhhh hahaha! That would have been hilarious though. Sneaking around the house. They should do that with all the evicted houseguests. Well the Jury anyways since there is 7 of them. Let them each go in there for a day and hide in the Desert room and let them ease drop on Jun and Ali and what they are saying about people. This would give them a better clue on who to vote as the winner. It would also be funnier to hide things or change things around that are noticeable make Ali and Jun think they are going crazy. AHAHAHAHAHA

Seanflynn2003

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 12:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Apart from having liked her from day 1, I feel Jun deserves to win because she personifies a nice balance of scheming and humnanity, smarts and instinct, as well as a welcome self-deprecating and self-aware approach to her plans. I think she is the most deserving of the original 13, and between her and Allison, I think she has been more consistent, less nasty for the sake of being nasty, and more level headed. She has not out and out lied to anyone on a y strategic move. That she has done this without throwing her body out there to get votes is another factor in her favor.

Vskatefan

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 12:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun played the best game and I want her to win, since it has to be one of them. She put things into people's minds behind the scenes and just let the others do the work while she sat back and watched what she started. That got people mad at others and not her even though she often got the wheels in motion. She was in control or partially in control of many of the evivtion votes while still staying UTR. Jun knew how to be subtle while Ali did not.

Gidget

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 12:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Ali's behavior is perceived as trampy, is Dave's behavior also perceived as trampy? Just wondering.

Self editted to make Lance proud of me.

Monalisahi

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 12:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gidget, very fair question, and I like to think he is.....LOL.

oops, I answered before the edit, OK, I'll edit mine

Gidget, David is definitely perceived as trampy in my fantasies.

Gidget

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 12:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Too funny Monalisahi.

I am constantly posting with the intention of discussing behavior, not dissing anyone but I forget the proper wording and am thus misinterpreted. My own fault.

So you have fantasies about Dave. Interesting.

Cameramanbob

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 12:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I would choose Alison because she noticably screwed people over and slept her way up the food chain. Truly a mountain of hard work and effort!

That is clearly awarding the prize to the person with the real Big Brother spirit! (Something I clearly still can't get my mind around!)

Also - I admired Jun until just recently.

I noticed how Jee offered her every thought on his mind as his way of taking the high road regarding their past. Jun PLAYED Jee for all he was worth & was brilliant at duping the gullible guy.

What ruined it for me was the cold chills I got from Jun when she confessed her utter contempt for him as a human being. She never ever told him that - after all he did for her. She was COLD, while Ali was just - well, you all know what Ali was. (No one word will do.)

Seamonkey

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 01:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun. From the beginning and still, at the end.

I won't be surprised if either one wins.

I get the feeling that Jun was used, heavily and badly, by Jee's family, it was over and suddenly there was Jee in this house and he had the nerve to call the woman who supported him, paid for his dad's medication and tombstone, shallow. I'm pretty sure I'd be pushed over the edge too.

Jee has a warped sort of perspective, like insisting he put his life on the line and not getting the exquisite irony of saying that to David, who had been in combat, even when Dave gently called Jee out on it.

But, anyway, I'd vote for Jun, and I hope she wins.

Cameramanbob

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 01:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Seamonkey - I find it a bit of a leap to guesstimate Jun's relationship to Jee's family. You post a valid & imaginative arguement, tho.'

I DO know that when one, as a stranger, approaches the remains of a dead relationship that the real truth is impossible to attain. (Check any divorce court proceedings.)

Still - food for thought. She may have really been hurt. I hope that is the case, because that was some serious 'payback.'

Bondmaiden

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 02:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Er.... I don't think Ali has had actual sex in the house. Just an observation.

Gidget

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 04:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry if my post seems off the wall. I was responding to a post that appears to have been deleted.

Surreal_Badger

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 04:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
for the 1st time in my own reality-tv-watching history, i have a contestant that i picked from day 1 in the finals (namely, jun). so for the purely selfish reason of finally being able to name a winner from the get-go, i'm hoping jun wins.

(oh wait, i liked clay aiken)

of course, statistically speaking, this would mean that rupert (my new fave on Survivor) has absolutely no chance in he// of walking away with $1 mil

Earthmother

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 04:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
UHHH!Could you give us other choices please..lol

R151996

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 05:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ali's nomination by Dana forced her to work to survive and then actively work to evict Dana the next week. At that time Jun was more in the background while Ali was perceived a threat.

Ali was then able move somewhat into the background along with Jun as the floater alliance became the ultimate dominant force in the overall game. But the player who was the most dominant over the last three evictions was Ali, especially with the crucial diamond veto win.

Both Jun and Ali have committed their share of misdeeds in trashing the other players. But Jun's combined insult and the comment about not letting Elena have the butterflies was the worst to me, and I think the jury would agree if they could see everything.

Since Ali had to play more in the open than Jun did, was a better overall competitor, and was marginally less offensive to me than Jun was, my pick is Ali over Jun.

Earthmother

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 05:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yep!!same thing happened to Nicole in BB2 and look where she ended up...2nd place.

Puzzled

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 05:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
When Robert, Jun, and Ali were the last three, I just didn't care who won anymore. I still don't care.