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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Is Robert the first Latino on BB?: Archive through September 15, 2003

Crazydog

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 01:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm sure Beach meant "100% white". No need to be so snippy.

Tishala

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 02:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh OK. Now I understand: "pure American" means "100% white," an idea that is also foreign to me. Thanks for clarifying.

Crazydog

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 02:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, also, according to Robert, it seems he was born in Cuba. In his chat somebody asked him what it meant to be Cuban and he said it means you were born in Cuba, the most beautiful island on the planet. So assuming he was born in Cuba, that would likely make him a naturalized American. To me then he would not be a pure American, he would be a Cuban American.

I was born in Canada and I do not consider myself a pure American, because I was Canadian born.

Bohawkins

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 02:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was born in Ireland, but I am not an Irish-American. I am a pure 100% American.

I refuse to be stuck with a ridiculous hypenated label, the creation and usage of which was intended by those who wish to fracture and demarcate.

Beachcomber88

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 02:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gosh, so much back and forth bantering over a trivial fact. This is a thread that the mods should just bomb and destroy.

Thank you, Crazydog, for the clarification. Obviously I meant 100% born-in-America-white-as-white-can-be. Alison seems to fit this description, although of course, I have no way of knowing. And I was born in Canada too, and yes, I am a naturalized citizen. Even though I consider myself American, I can never be President of the United States, because I was not born in this country.

Perhaps I should reword my statement... How about:
I was not even aware that Robert can never run for President of this fine country.

Delilah

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 02:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good on you Bo! I was also born in Ireland and I am just me, I hate labels.

Cosmo

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 02:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bohawkins, I am in total agreement with the Hyphenated-American label (I hate it). When I was growing up, we always asked each other what we were...we meant, where did your ancestors come from? So we'd go I'm German! I'm Japanese! I'm English-Irish-French. I'm Mexican. But we all considered ourselves Americans.

Crossfire

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 03:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Labels are a pain in the butt, I rarely know what to say, so I just avoid them whenever possible which is almost always possible.

I'm just me.

Whit4you

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 03:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well I'd love to become educated on this topic sometime but don't know if it's really "on topic" -

Beach - I understand the confusion - I am myself. They are asking if Allie is being Racist in calling him a Cuban - but is he really Cuban or Latino? Because he was born there? Or because his parents are of that decent or what? If my folks were vacationing in Cuba when I was born would this make me Cuban - even though I've lived in the USA all my life? I've always thought of being Hispanic as something different then just wear you were born I guess. The same way I think of being Korean, to me and I'm sorry if I've failed to educate myself on this as much as I should... but my ex boyfriends daughter is being born and raised in the USA but she still conciders herself Korean as does her family. That's because her Mother is Korean and her father is half Korean. She also considers herself an American. Yet I've never heard Robert refer to himself as an American, but he frequently refers to himself as Cuban.

So I guess I just wonder if being Cuban is different than being Korean or an Amerian Indian?? Isn't it based on your parents and not where you are born?

If anything I've said can be construed as rasits, my sincere apologies - I'm not rasits so I've never really thought about this much nor discussed it much. People are people to me... ya know - I've never really concerned myself with this but this topic now has me totally confused.

As far as a 'pure American' - don't think there's a definition for that, if I were to have to make one it'd probably at least have to change since we have North America.. and South America... so I guess a pure American would be someone who's ancestors were born and raised in the America's....

As far as this President thing - I think that should change... that law was inacted for a specific reason 200+ years ago. Those reasons don't apply now. I think that there should be a # of years living here required before becoming president (30+ years perhaps) but that law is archaic and needs to change. There was a poll done on this recently though (although I think polls are bull....) and in that poll the majority of American's favor the 'born in USA" requirement.

Beruthiel

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 03:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Folks always think I'm joking when I say that each of my grandparents is from one of the four main groups which make up the British Isles, English, Irish, Scottish, and Welsh, so I just say I'm a mostly Celtic 'Heinz57' Brit by birth, and now a proud Canadian by choice.

Wendo

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 03:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There is no such thing as "pure American", imo. This country was founded by people NOT born here. LOL! In many ways, America is a melting pot; and in other ways, different groups retain their ethnic origins. That's what makes this country so great, imo.

Whit, interesting thought about changing the amendment which defines who can and cannot be President of the US. I'll have to think about that one...

Bastable

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 03:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That goes for Canada, too. Canadians are just as mixed as Americans are. Even the natives came over from Asia.

Americans do cherish their labels, don't they?

Wendo

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 03:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Apparently so, Bastable.

Woodpecke®

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 03:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought this country was great because we have so many televison channels with reality programming. I'm such a dweeb.

Gidget

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 03:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm a mutt and we all know mutts make the best and hardiest pets. :)

Wendo

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 03:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That too Wood, that too.

We're still no where near the international reality shows though. LOL!

Abby7

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 03:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am a human being.

Beruthiel

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 03:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey, Gidget, that's another thing we have in common!

Woodpecke®

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 03:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gidget and Wendo are having a moment. Touching.

Beruthiel

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 04:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wood, did you have a typo moment?

Chiparock

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 04:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is Wood touching "it" again??

Gidget

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 04:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Huh?

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Woodpecke®

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 04:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No, Chiparock. I'm thinking about baseball.

Gidget

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 04:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
you can teach an old cat new tricks

Justboredwbb4

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 04:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This is my thought
You can only be Cuban-American if you live in both countries. The same goes with African American, Chinese American (although I have never personally heard this label used by Chinese People)etc..etc...
Who cares if Robert is the "first latino" on BB! Why should this even be being talked about?