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Cricket | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 11:11 am     I agree the women are going a little overboard with their namecalling of Robert's daughter. I think they are just trying to one-up each other in that department. They definitely have too much time on their hands. I do think Ali has a gutter mouth, but I think Jun is getting carried away with Ali just because that's all she's got there right now. However, I also agree with what Seamonkey said. Never should a little girl that age be watching this show and her mother signed a release. I think the women are angry that Robert is winning everything because of his daughter and not because he is a good person. Carrie, Robert wasn't "up front" with them until he was called out by Julie Chen on national TV. He's been calling them that all summer. Now he is 'bullying' them if they don't take him. Arghhh, I wish America could all read the live feeds. They wouldn't have voted AC for him regardless of the fact he has a daughter. |
Monalisahi | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 11:16 am     Robert a bully? Doe anybody believe he is big enough or influencial enough to bully anybody? nawwwwww, and especially not Jun or Ali |
Carrie92 | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 11:18 am     Cameramanbob - that's why I think Jun still has a heart. It seems to me like she is saying everything that Ali has already said. Maybe to make Ali feel like they are tight? I just hope she doesn't throw the HOH like they are planning. |
Carrie92 | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 11:24 am     Cricket, you are right, Julie did call him out on it. But, wasn't he in the HOH when they discussed that? Then again, maybe he only came clean because he knew those comments went on the air. |
Lauram | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 11:34 am     Bigbrotherfan read or heard about "Jun saying she was one of the first to use RU-4-86" Now I don't want to show my naivete but what is this? Is someone here at this board trying to BLEEP out a phrase? or is this some sort or Raid ant killer? or is there a new phrase out there that I haven't heard? {If this you need not go into great detail with explanations if it might get you in trouble with the moderators} |
Kalekona | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 11:43 am     Cricket - I watch the live feeds and i still voted for Robert for all 3 AC. Robert owned up to calling them names, i don't think he needs to run down the list of which names, the point is he did admit to them he's called them names i have yet to see either of them be adult enough to tell him they have done the same. One thing we can say is They are justifing to Robert everything he said about them with their behavior. Roberts bulling? I've seen them all use the same tactics before nominations or when hoh and threatening the veto holder. My greatest joy would be if BB drew the line and decided ali and jun had crossed it and expelled THEM.. brought Erika back and let her and robert be the finial two. (hey i can dream) |
Kalekona | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 11:45 am     R-U-482 is the "morning after pill" An abortion drug used instead of a surgical proceedure. |
Steveh | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 11:46 am     Yesterday, Naja wrote, "I think (Ali) rewrites history in her own head and then actually believes herself." I've been dying to share the following (a long-winded? way of saying Naja has hit the nail on the head): On the first or second day (pretty sure) in the house Ali related the "tragic" story of a Pitt football player who had died from an accident in a Catholic church. Ali implied that this beloved, extremely cute, campus figure had been there doing the lord's work or somesuch? The player fell from a catwalk 30 ft above the church's floor and landed on a pew, causing irreparable spinal chord and brain injuries. He got on to the catwalk from the roof of the church where he had been attending an underage drinking party (he was underage) being thrown by the parish priest who has a history of contributing to the delinquency of minors and molestation. The deceased player's (btw, he & his roommate had been staying w/ the priest after a "mysterious" apt. fire) blood alcohol was. almost twice the legal limit for PA. All of the preceding had been widely reported by the local press well before Ali entered the BB house. Why tell the story? Why tell it with most of its significant facts missing? Again, just my way of saying that IMO Naja got it EXACTLY right. |
Ark | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 11:51 am     I believe that RU486 is a pill that causes a spontaneous abortion. Monalisahi, I believe it was Robert that commented to his Dream Team about how ugly he thought Jack's daughters were, so Jun & Ali are not the only two to stoop to this behavior. |
Lauram | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 11:51 am     I learn something on this board everyday!! thanks |
Ark | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 11:55 am     I meant to add that I also think that this is also game play for the ladies. I think that both of them want to keep the other focused on how much they want Robert to be the one to leave this week. |
Kalekona | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 11:58 am     RU486 RU486 is Mifeprex (Mifepristone), The Abortion Pill Mifeprex is the brand name of mifepristone in the U.S., and is sometimes referred to as non-surgical abortion, medical abortion, or RU486. Non-surgical abortions using RU486 are performed in the first 63 days of the first trimester. Non-surgical abortion is usually in pill form (Mifeprex or RU486), and sometimes by injection or in liquid form (methotrexate). If you call a clinic seeking a non-surgical abortion, make sure you know which version you will be receiving. The side effects and the costs can vary between Mifeprex (RU486) and methotrexate. Mifeprex (RU486) is approved by the FDA for non-surgical abortion. The most common non-surgical abortion is performed with Mifeprex or RU486. For more detailed information on Mifeprex, please visit www.mifeprex.com. Mifeprex is provided through a doctor’s office or clinic. Many women choose Mifeprex to avoid surgery. Others feel that Mifeprex is more private because they can end their pregnancy at home. Some feel that it is more natural than a surgical abortion. Non-surgical abortion with Mifeprex will stop your pregnancy from growing and vaginal suppositories will help expel your pregnancy. Because there is a chance of failure with Mifeprex, you must be willing to have a surgical abortion if the procedure fails. In addition, you must be able to commit to two or more visits to the clinic. Commonly Asked Questions about Mifeprex How does Mifeprex work? Mifeprex blocks a hormone needed for your pregnancy to continue. When used together with another medicine called misoprostol, Mifeprex ends your pregnancy. How effective is Mifeprex? Mifeprex followed by the vaginal insertions is approximately 95-97% effective. How can I get Mifeprex? You can get Mifeprex from a clinic or certain doctor’s offices. Because it can be used only during early stages of pregnancy, you must come in for your appointment before you are 63 days from the day your last period began. The earlier you call the better. What are the advantages of Mifeprex? Because Mifeprex comes in pill form and is taken by mouth, you can usually avoid surgery. Also, because it works very early in your pregnancy, Mifeprex allows you to take early action to end your pregnancy. Many women feel that Mifeprex is private and more natural. What are the side effects of Mifeprex? Bleeding and cramping are a normal part of the process. The bleeding can be heavier than a normal period. Bleeding and spotting usually lasts from 9-16 days. In some cases, women may have severe bleeding and then would need to contact the clinic or their doctor immediately. Your provider will instruct you on how to handle any pain, nausea, headache, vomiting, or diarrhea that could also occur with the use of Mifeprex. How safe is Mifeprex? The FDA, which has tested it for both safety and effectiveness, has approved Mifeprex. In the past decade, over 1 million women worldwide have safely used RU486 to end their pregnancies. It is now approved for use in more than 29 countries, including the U.S. and most European countries. Mifeprex has been chosen by nearly 200,00 women in the U.S. http://www.ru486.com/topics/articles/article_73.asp |
Ezgoing | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 11:58 am     Steveh and Naja, I tend to agree with your assessment. It simply makes no sense otherwise, and a certain amount of delusional, revisionist memory can be quite helpful to a self-absorbed person. |
Bigbrotherfan | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 12:01 pm     RU486 is used for a surgery-free abortion. It's name implies exactly what it is. Read it as "Are you for 86?" "86" is a term used in the restaurant industry for all gone/get rid of. |
Steveh | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 12:04 pm     Ezgoing - thanks for reading. You know, I've been taken to task in this thread and elsewhere at bomis for my criticisms of Ali and the thesis of pretty much all the defenses has been that "Ali is just playing the game." Okay, I'll buy that. But only if Ali's defenders will buy the notion that now we are seeing how Ali (and Jun) reacts to someone else "just playing the game." I mean what would she expect that Robert would do besides try to win at least second-prize. Of course he's going to try and work her. So this makes him a "Cuban f****t" who's going to get his face punched in. I don't think I've ever elevated any of my criticisms of Ali to this level? LOL |
Spear | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 12:06 pm     Kalekona, RU486 ("Abortion Pill") is not the same as the "Morning After Pill". See Gina8642's explanation in the Q&A thread. |
Wendo | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 12:19 pm     Cricket said, "I do think Ali has a gutter mouth, but I think Jun is getting carried away with Ali just because that's all she's got there right now." Cricket, it seems that you're saying that Jun isn't responsible for her dueroagatory comments; that Ali is responsible for them. I disagree and, IMO, they're both feeding off each other equally. Jun is responsible for her comments and has shown that she has just as much a gutter mouth as Ali. Kalekona said, "Robert owned up to calling them names, i don't think he needs to run down the list of which names, the point is he did admit to them he's called them names i have yet to see either of them be adult enough to tell him they have done the same." He only owned up to the name calling AFTER he was called out about it by Julie. Had Julie not brought this topic up with Robert I highly doubt he would've said anything at all; he hadn't said anything up until that point as it was. "One thing we can say is They are justifing to Robert everything he said about them with their behavior." Interesting. So, now the things that Robert said about women and Jun and Ali in particular are ok because, well, hey they're name calling too. This is so hypocritical. |
Justalittlebean | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 12:22 pm     Jun's had a gutter mouth since day one. I don't think they need to feed off each other, they seem to have no problems with the nasty language. |
Ezgoing | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 12:33 pm     Jun: "Robert Roman can lick my @ss then kiss his mother with that mouth." Ali: "Yeah?" Jun: "Yeah." And the hits just keep on coming... |
Wendo | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 12:35 pm     Ezgoing, heard that too. Jun's about to surpass Ali in the Rob bashing department. |
Cameramanbob | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 12:40 pm     Hey, Wendo; >>>> it seems that you're saying that Jun isn't responsible for her dueroagatory comments; that Ali is responsible for them. I disagree and, IMO, they're both feeding off each other equally. Jun is responsible for her comments and has shown that she has just as much a gutter mouth as Ali.<<<< Jun can't be "playing" Ali? (And take R to the end?) I ain't defending anyone - just pointing out one further possibility. (Edit: Obviously I'm implying a visa versa, here - Ali can be playing Jun also - my bad.) >>>>>He only owned up to the name calling AFTER he was called out about it by Julie. Had Julie not brought this topic up with Robert I highly doubt he would've said anything at all; he hadn't said anything up until that point as it was.<<<<<< Why? Were J & A watching the show? It would have been to R's advantage to say nothing about Julie to the end. This was a courtesy to A & J, IMO. |
Avrey258 | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 12:41 pm     Why did Ali tell Robert she has only said one bad thing in the house? Maybe that's the reason she doesn't want to watch the show? If she really believes that then she will surely be in for a shock when she gets out. |
Kalekona | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 12:41 pm     Wendo - my point was he DID say something to them about the name calling. and as for them justifing what he has said i was talking about in roberts mind when he sees/reads what all was said that yes he'll think he was right all along....and i'm starting to agree with him on some of it.. lol the key word in that sentence was "to" they are justifing TO Robert, hope you see the difference. |
Ladytex | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 12:42 pm     I have mentioned before how Ali has been taking Jun's beatings online. Jun has lots of fans that have been forever trying to justify her bad behavior. Don't get me wrong, Ali deserves to be taken to task, but for what she's done, not for what Jun has done, too. If Ali gets dogged out, then Jun surely deserves the same. I don't think either one of them is better than the other ... |
Gidget | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 12:42 pm     Ark... what ladies??? Steve... do you bring up the story at Pitt because Ali is from PA. Surely she is one of the "in" crowd. Perhaps she got that story out early to head Justin off at the pass? |
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