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Archive through September 12, 2003
Laluna | Friday, September 12, 2003 - 02:55 pm     John Ritter will be greatly missed. He has been one of my favorite actors since I was a teenager and he was on Three's Company. I have to agree that suggesting Viagra is the cause of his death is disrespectful. Why would that be suggested if there has been no public mention of him using it? It is the same thing as suggesting that the cause could be from the use of narcotics, etc. The message of the dangers associated with Viagra is certainly a good message to get out to the public. However, IMO, using somebody's death and making assumptions because of his age and his celebrity status is very disrespectful. I think we should honor the memory of John and all the entertainment that he has provided us through the years. People should not start rumours about him. Think of his family. Would you want unfounded rumours circulating about a family member of yours that you have just lost? |
Kalekona | Friday, September 12, 2003 - 02:56 pm     thanks Lexie.. and Mystery "take it to Yahoo" is simply my opinion something i'm allowed to voice. |
Twiggyish | Friday, September 12, 2003 - 02:57 pm     Why do people have to look for the negative? |
Woodpecke® | Friday, September 12, 2003 - 02:58 pm     This forum most certainly isn't the place to discuss why a celebrity's aorta tore apart or if the drug Viagra happened to contribute to it. Totally speculative and highly improper. That's my opinion. |
Twiggyish | Friday, September 12, 2003 - 03:10 pm     Good point Woody. I was just answering the post above to the speculation..regarding why he died. Aortic problems are not due to viagra. That's why I posted it. |
Cherokeerosa | Friday, September 12, 2003 - 03:12 pm     I was truly saddened by the passing of two wonderful celebrities today. I grew up with the contributions of both and was very sad to hear of their passing. I remember John Ritter's contributions on Ally McBeal as well as 3's Company. On AM, he showed again the wonderful humor, but also a tenderness and soft acting ability that endeared him to many viewers. My heart goes out to his wife and children. I have to agree that any speculation about Viagra is distasteful. We have no information that he was using Viagra and to suggest such without more than early death under unfortunate circumstances is a blight to his memory and an insult to his grieving family. Aortic dissection has happened for decades before Viagra and will continue to happen. It occurs in men AND women of all ages and to suggest that his death was anything other than a tragedy without evidence to support it is sensationalism. I support Kaleoka completely in her stance. I also grieve the loss of Johnny Cash. He was a true pioneer in country music. His words and attitude touched many generations. His relationship with June Carter Cash and his children was deep and loving and he will be fondly remembered by many of us who grew up listening to his voice. The world is a little darker today for the loss of these two great men.
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Kalekona | Friday, September 12, 2003 - 03:20 pm     <The world is a little darker today for the loss of these two great men. > You can say that again... |
Babyruth | Friday, September 12, 2003 - 03:21 pm     "Background information on aortic dissection: Those who have lived through it describe an aortic dissection as the most painful thing that ever happened to them. Blood, surging from the heart into the main artery, forces open a tiny rip in the aorta's lining that grows and threatens to burst like a dam in a flood. While tears in the lining of the body's largest blood vessel are rare, occurring in 5,000 to 10,000 patients a year, they have long been known to be deadly. Without emergency attention and treatment — and even, often with it — the torn lining can continue to rip, block blood flow to the body, cause the heart to fail, or make the aorta swell into an aneurysm or even rip open. At risk are people with other heart valve and aorta problems, high blood pressure, or a family history of aortic dissections. Some people with aortic dissection can achieve a stable state with their condition, at least for a while, but most cases are acute and must be treated quickly. Aortic dissection's symptoms often mimic those of other cardiovascular conditions — resulting in delayed diagnosis. Symptoms include rapid onset of chest pain, sharp drops in blood pressure, altered consciousness, and limb paralysis." |
Cherokeerosa | Friday, September 12, 2003 - 03:25 pm     Kalekona -- sorry for typing your name wrong... ;) |
Friktion | Friday, September 12, 2003 - 03:26 pm     OK, I think this thread has become ridiculous! Babyruth, you've just sent all kinds of hypochondriacs into hysterics and running to the phone for their doctors ... |
Cassie | Friday, September 12, 2003 - 03:28 pm     Why are we even discussing John Ritter's death on the BB board? Shouldn't it be in General Discussion? |
Babyruth | Friday, September 12, 2003 - 03:29 pm     Viagra is usually taken prior to intercourse, not prior to working on the set of a TV show. It has nothing to do with any of this. Nobody deserves to be publicly trash talked, particularly right after they die. It's misinformation that's harmful, Frikton, not facts. |
Friktion | Friday, September 12, 2003 - 03:34 pm     This whole thread is WAY off-topic. Actually, Babyruth, I was speaking about the facts. Personally, I don't need to know such personal details about John Ritter's death (whether he was in pain, or not, etc.). And especially if I was a loved one, I would definitely NOT want to speculate. |
Woodpecke® | Friday, September 12, 2003 - 03:35 pm     Cassie makes a great point, but I was leery about saying it. Now that even this respectful tribute has gone horribly haywire, I question this thread's appearance even more. |
Justshirley | Friday, September 12, 2003 - 03:36 pm     Okay, maybe I've just been watching the feeds too much, but I must admit, the first thing I thought when I heard he had died was "Oh, Robert is going to be bummed!" Robert LOVES "Three's Company." Kalekona, I agree with you 100%. |
Friktion | Friday, September 12, 2003 - 03:37 pm     BTW, Babyruth, I apologize to you if I'm sounding short. Truth is, the whole mentioning of Viagara truly p*ssed me off. Terribly disrespectful! |
Gidget | Friday, September 12, 2003 - 03:38 pm     Wouldn't this be a good point to all agree to disagree. There is nothing more to be said pro or con about viagra and/or it's appropriateness in this thread. Dropping it/ignoring it would be the truly most respectful course of action, for this particular thread. For those who want to discuss the pros and cons of viagra and or drug companies (and I personally am interested in anything that has the potential to snuff out the life of people who should have many numbers of years ahead of them) a new thread could be started over at general discussion. I'm not a mod, in fact I am currently on their doo doo list, I think. I also take the lives of everyone in perspective. The loss of many families today is no less tragic than the loss of a celebrity. But those who need to discuss the passing of someone who has touched their lives with their art should be allowed to do so in a peaceful manner. |
Steveh | Friday, September 12, 2003 - 04:13 pm     Hey, maybe I can annoy you all more than the v****a speculation has? I was just in the Johnny Cash thread whining that John Ritter's death has received much more attention here, but then I see that many of you have commented on JC as well. I'd just like to clear up a few things. Johnny Cash was NOT Tex Ritter's contemporary. Ritter's career was in full swing before Cash was even born and had peaked in the '40s before JC's got started. Ritter was born in 04, Cash in 1930. JC didn't write "Ring of Fire" or "Will the Circle . . ." The former was written by June Carter Cash and Merle Kilgore (probably ABOUT Johnny) and the latter's authorship is in dispute, credited at various times to "Trad.", Mother Maybelle Carter or Roy Acuff. Don't get me wrong, I thought John Ritter was a solid actor and he seemed like a regular guy on his talk show appearances etc. (just saw him on Craig Kilborn and he was very funny). I found him really hilarious in a guest appearance as a totally twisted psychiatrist on "News Radio." And he was younger than I. eek |
Gidget | Friday, September 12, 2003 - 04:18 pm     So? Why would this be annoying? By the way, Steve, when do you get any work done if you spend all your time researching whatever current fancy strikes you? I ask this with full respect. Do you find your subjects, about which to write, by indulging your eclectic interest? |
Friktion | Friday, September 12, 2003 - 04:22 pm     Uh-oh, Steveh - maybe Gidget is your boss? LOL |
Steveh | Friday, September 12, 2003 - 04:30 pm     Very little of what I write on bulletin boards like this one requires any research Gidget, but thanks for asking. I know a lot of useless stuff about pop music and television, more the former than the latter. For example, I didn't have to "research" the facts that I'd seen Ritter on Craig Kilborn or "News Radio," nor the authorship of those songs, although I DID research the latter for a review of one of Cash's albums that I wrote 10 or so years ago. I was JOKING re. the annoying. In fact, you seem to be the one who's annoyed? LOL |
Gidget | Friday, September 12, 2003 - 04:38 pm     Annoyed, not at all. I was just having some fun with ya. Your taking a heck of a beating in the Alison debate thread. I was referring to the research you did there more than here. |
Twiggyish | Friday, September 12, 2003 - 04:42 pm     Steven, I am always researching things, too. I love trivia. |
Gidget | Friday, September 12, 2003 - 04:52 pm     Gidget turns the tables on Steve, hee, hee, hee: MSU Northern - Extended University ENGLISH ENGL 309 - 101 & 401 POPULAR GENRES (POPULAR CULTURE) Steve <mod> July 14-August 7, NorthNet 3 credits, MTW The study of popular culture and its attendant myths, rituals, stereotypes and heros as created/presented via modern folklore, movies, television, CD’s, CD-ROM, books, magazines, etc. has become an academic fact. In this course, students will be introduced to the study of pop culture and learn that their leisure pursuits and those of their families, friends, peers, etc., are much, much more than trivial chewing gum for passive minds. In the past, secondary educators have found this course useful. A textbook will be required. ENGL 390 - 101 NEWSPAPER PRACTICUM Steve <mod> July 14-August 7, Havre 3 credits, MTW This course will provide experience in any of the range of activities - from photography to writing to layout and copy editing - required to produce a student newspaper. By arrangement with the instructor, each student will undertake an individualized student newspaper project that will involve two or more of the aspects of newspaper production. The final project for the class will be to produce a Welcome/Welcome Back to Northern issue of the school paper in time for the Fall 2003 session. This class may be repeated for credit and may be applied toward A&S/Humanities elective or selective requirements. |
Steveh | Friday, September 12, 2003 - 04:59 pm     HEY! Those classes are over. The first one was a rousing success, taught on NorthNet (TV to off campus learners, went to three remote sites), but the second one was an unmitigated disaster. We did it last year & the students put out a great paper, but this year was an EMBARRASSMENT which I had to take full responsiblity for. (psst even though none of it was my fault LOL). Should you have posted my full name, though? I am teaching two freshman comps, regular journalism and intro to lit this semester. Seats available. LOL I don't think I'm taking a beating in the Alison thread. Namecalling or whining to the moderators instead of proving a point, doesn't constitute a beating. The research I've done on Alison & a few contestants from prior years might (but probably won't, since I end up not writing about 75% of the stuff I research) end up in a scholarly journal or a gen. interest mag. I'm lazy so I don't publish much but there's been a flurry this year since I'm up for promotion. I'll bet yr "research" took less than 5 min.? LOL |
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