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Ezgoing

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 05:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL, Earthmother! I can always count on you for my daily dose of levity--thanks!

Wendo

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sweetpea said, "Wendo, this is a forum to discuss one another's opinions. That being said I am entitled to my opinion, and it is my opinion that anyone who justifies calling a child a ***** should reevaluate their own morals."

I completely agree that this is a forum to discuss ones opinions; and I recognize that we all have our own. However, I find it rather offensive for another person to call someone elses morals bad just because they disagree with your opinion. That's why we don't have a morality police. Everyones morals differ from one another.

I would never call a child the b-word. And I think it's sad that someone else would as well. But I'm not going to state that someones morals need "re-evaluating" because they may not agree with what I believe. However, I respect that you don't think this way; even though I wholeheartedly disagree with your opinion.

Mystery

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"These so called women have stepped wayyyyyyyyy over the line."

So-called women? Does having a foul mouth mean a complete change in gender?

I agree that they've been awful, but so has Robert. I've yet to see him called a "so called man." I just can't believe the number of times in the past few days that I've seen the opinion that Jun and Alison's behavior is worse because they're female.

Gidget

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
How many time, how many ways does the right to have an opinion have to be reiterated. The next person who says it should have to sit in the penalty box. Worse, be banished to the BB house to be abused by the final 3!!!

Wendo

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Earthmother said, "Have you ever wondered what was left when the pond was drained? I have my answer."

Ah yes, we are all so much better than those in the house. I mean, basically calling the houseguests pond scum is nowhere near the bashing the HG have done, right?


What mighty high soap boxes we all sit atop; looking down our noses at those "dreadful" HG's.

Steveh

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
In case anyone cares,

As an educator of 25 years I opine that Jun is smart, Ali is not. Based on what I've seen of the show.

As a former bully, I opine that Robert couldn't bully a p***ant and both of his intended victims are well aware of this (one of many) shortcoming. He's WHEEDLING. The perfect word. On the other hand, while in the house, Ali has often trafficked in the bully's currency--hate (repeating the word over and over and over) and threats of violence.

As a current sometime spewer of streams of invective, yes, everyone in the house has had his/her moments when it comes to vile epithets, but no one (even when there were more people in the house) has shown the ability to maintain the volume and intensity re. insults and cussing that these two have.

Mostly, JMO except where I've offered facts. LOL

Kalekona

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Mystery Robert has been called a lot worse than a so called man on this board. It's been said he ISN'T man and that's one of the milder things said.

This isn't about what Robert said..everyone already knows he said things. This is about to grown females who are so envious of a 7 year old that they call her foul names and want to distroy something made for her with love..

And let's not forget Ali decideding that Elana had everything she needed in life and so Robert shouldn't win.. "she has everything, she doesn't need anything, i have college to pay for"
I do not think Robert should win the money because of his daughter but neither should ali assume the child couldn't use the money just as much as ali does.

Wendo- morals = right from wrong.. it is wrong to call a 7 year old a b itch period... and if someone thinks it isn't then yes they need to re-evaluate their morals. that's whats wrong with this country.. I don't say someone should believe what i do religously, or politically but there is basic right and wrong that should not be a topic of discussion they are mearly that right and wrong.
ie.. it is wrong to abuse your child... are you going to say it is ok if someone believes it is ok?

Smarty

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Prisoner makes an excellent point. Jun and especially Ali have called all the women in the house names. Robert was really stupid to tell them that Julie asked him about it. But Ali and Jun are being extremely hypocritical getting mad at Robert for saying the same things they have said. At least he didn't say terrible things about someone's child!

Bondmaiden

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hang in there Wendo, I'm here for you babe.

Wendo

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kale, my opinion is above, there's no need for me to keep repeating it.

Kellirippa

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Does anyone else feel that although Ali talks a great game in the DR, ie, I'm gonna mix it up, I don't know what I'm going to do, they don't know what to expect... she hasn't actually done anything unexpected or to mix-it-up at all?

Gidget

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
One word:

Delusional

Prisonerno6

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"Most people just don't operate that way;"

Perhaps most people you choose to associate with don't operate that way. I, however, choose otherwise.

Wendo

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gee Prisoner, that sure seems like a backhanded insult. But perhaps I'm reading your comment wrong.

To clarify, many people don't have the capacity for true introspection. That doesn't mean they're bad people. They would never hurt anyone nor would they ever say a mean thing about anyone, adult or child. Yet, they may never fully evaluate themselves. That's what I meant.

Wendo

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Smarty said, "At least he (Robert) didn't say terrible things about someone's child!"

Well...actually, he did call Jack's children ugly.

Kalekona

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That's his OPINION Wendo... and those girls are not 7 yrs.

Smarty

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo, I didn't see Robert calling Jack's children ugly. I must've missed it. No, that wasn't nice, but aren't Jack's children grown? Plus he didn't say "Jack's kids are so ugly I'm gonna ruin the gift that Jack made for them."

Lancecrossfire

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Per LFP, Ali just said Jack looks like a child molester

What in the wide world of sports does a child molester look like? how can you tell by looking??

Bondmaiden

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh my stars and garders, I may kill myself, I will never watch Big Brother again, er... has any body seen my bottle of Southern Comfort?

Wendo

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kalekona said, "That's his OPINION Wendo... and those girls are not 7 yrs."

I see, so if the "children" aren't 7 years old, well, then the comment isn't hurtful. And, it has no less an impact on Jack that Rob called his children ugly. And, well, it is just Rob's opinion.

Jun and Ali were giving their opinion as well; though we find it distasteful.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander as they say.

Oh, except in Robert's case; Right?

Kristylovesbb

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lance, as I said in another thread, I think some of these people have within their character the means to destroy peoples lives. I can't stand people that care so little of others that they would hurt them so badly with gossip and innuendo. It truly sickens me that they would stoop so low!

Wendo

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Smarty said, "Wendo, I didn't see Robert calling Jack's children ugly. I must've missed it. No, that wasn't nice, but aren't Jack's children grown? Plus he didn't say "Jack's kids are so ugly I'm gonna ruin the gift that Jack made for them.""

Yes, he did say it. So what if his children are grown? (And, I believe they were in their teens.) Does that make the comments less rude? By saying that there's some sort of "age cutoff" aren't you just qualifying? It's either distasteful to rag on another HG's family or not. There are no "degrees". Or, perhaps there are from what I'm reading here.

Bastable

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The house makes them crazy. They are not inherently bad people.

Kalekona

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This has nothing to do with whose child this is wendo.. you just don't get it..
While saying Jacks girls are ugly is distastful those kids are old enough and i would imagine with a father like Jack secure enough emotionally to a)laugh it off B) concider the source C) know it's a game and move on.

A 7 year old does not have that ability and nor is ugly and b!tch anywhere near the same thing. And again Jacks kids are grown or almost grown not in elementary school.

Wendo

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kristy, I suppose Jun and Ali can join Lisa after they leave the house. Afterall, she called Gerry a sexual pervert and walked away with the half million; with quite a bit of support from this board as well. (Heck, even Marcellus did when he ragged on Gerry for peering over the shower door at him.)

It'll be a grand ole party!