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Onlyhuman

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 11:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ahhh, but let's not forget the irony of Jun sitting at the kitchen table, complaining about Dana causing her to stress eat while she is digging through the chips that she had immediately claimed out of Robert's HOH treats.

Because, you know, she had stopped stress eating after Dana left.

Another irony...the Dream Team deciding that Dana deserved to be evicted because she was untrustworthy and would turn on them at the first opportunity. Two weeks later, Jun defected back to the other side, a move that she had begun laying the groundwork for during her nomination week.

Cablejockey

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Just an idea about the sitting around and eating--being all stressed; the producers really should give hgs projects or keep busy work for small cash amounts or minor luxeries. It would be mentally healthier than sitting aound bitching and moaning, plus, it would give the viewers something interesting to watch.

Cliotheleo

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, lemme see if I can hijack BACK my own thread here :) ...........

Dana to Ali: "when you met Justin was his ear like that? [talking about his cauliflower ear] I don't know that I could get past that."

Emdanzma

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This is fun to read. Some of it I remember after I read it. I may have to do this for next summer...BB5. I assume they'll have another season. But it's got to be neat to go back and watch from the beginning. Thanks Cliotheleo for this fun thread :)

Lancecrossfire

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
For me the irony is that a lot of folks are upset about how Ali and Jun are acting, and how they will get money as reward for doing it--and that makes it a bad Big Borther.

BB is just a show--it's the people that make things happen. BB is a reflection of how life goes--it's the reality portion of it being reality TV.

Look around in everyday life--liars, brown nosers, backstabbers, and folks who tear other down to make themselves look better get ahead in real life. The blame for that goes to those who allow it to happen--the ones who reward the behavior.

That is the irony of it all. It's us to allow this type of thing in real life to work and it's the HG's that allow it to work in BB.

Crossfire

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Good points.

Gidget

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well said Lance

Spunky

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lance,

I look around and I still see a lot of decent people who are way up there where they belong.

The scum of the earth should stay down down below... not up.

Lancecrossfire

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 09:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Spunky, yes, lots of people who "do the right thing" get ahead too--but they do so because other people reward that type of behavior as well.

Humans are incentive based--if being a liar, a cheat and a brown noser didn't work, they wouldn't be used nearly to the extent that happens in everyday life.

Yes men get ahead because they find someone who wants a yes man.

I've been at my job where there have been managers who favor yes man and suck ups---and managers who don't. It's easy to tell what type of manager we have by who gets promotions and who gets the bigger raises.

Cliotheleo

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 09:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Around day 12........

Jun: "I wanna win and I wanna stay here, there's no way I'm going home earlier than I wish."

Cliotheleo

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 09:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ali: "Robert, he's just so great to talk to, he's so down to earth. He's really sweet!"

Boberg

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 09:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Irony..on the AC threads many here(at TVCH, not necisarily this thread) said they voted for Robert to win this last AC because they wanted to get Ali and Jun upset...some of those same people are now complaining on other threads about how Ali and Jun are behaving..esp.about calling Robert's daughter vicious names..They succeeded in their goal but don't like their results..Irony!

Giving credit where credit is due..Alexia first brought this to my attention on another thread.

Cliotheleo

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
There was discussion in week 3 about using the veto to get Dana put up on the block. David had the power but chose NOT to use it "because it was in [his] own best interest."

Dana put him on the block the next week and he was evicted.

Dram

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
After first of three part HOH comp. Ali and Jun discuss Rob after he admitted to calling them B!tches etc...

Jun: "That fu**ing moron, we don't call him names. Ali: "I know, we haven't called that a$$hole bad names."

Bastable

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dram, that is surely worthy of installation in the HG best quotes thread!

Bigbrotherfan

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
First episode, back to back comments:

Dave: “Is sex allowed on camera?”
Amanda: “Ooh, there ya go! I’m Amanda, and I’m goona do it with style.”

Here's the link:
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Lancecrossfire

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 11:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
An irony of BB for this board, and I'm guessing those that watch the feeds:

Boredom vs the negative stuff going on this past week that has gotten so many so riled up.

We complain when it's boring--we complain when they are too nice--we complain when they are being mean, vile, and egotistical.

So, what will it take to make us happy?

It seems the answer is different for all of us. Some want a good game and don't care about the rest. Some want conflict and verbal bantering and tension and pretty much what we had this past week. Some aren't sure what they want--they just know it's not happening for them with this BB.

In the end, like in "Highlander", there can be only one. BB and Survivor are that way--and in most cases in the process it becomes personal.

For me there is another irony--making a game so personal. It isn't needed--the person who came the closest to a non-personal game was Bryan in Survivor--he was almost machine-like in the way he played--yet in doing so, missed out on the experience that so many say is life changing.

So, do we have another irony? To be such a powerful experience, must the game become personal?

Wendo

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 11:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow, good questions posed Lance. Will have to ponder these...

Bastable

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
True about the endless complaints, Lance (and I get riled up when five people post five threads when one would do). But you have to remember that different people are usually complaining about different aspects of the game. Yeah, a few of us will complain about anything, but for the most part, it just looks like we're wishy-washing whingers until you keep track of who's saying what.

As for the personal issue... I think that it must get a little pesonal within the house. But time and again, the HGs tell us later on (after the game) that they're fine with it, that the house is another world, and they rarely let those personal feelings stick. They know it was all within a context of desperation and competition.

Naja

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I re-watched episodes 1 and 2 yesterday, so I can't remember which one this came from, but Dana said in the DR (before she and Justin ever got together) "I'm not here to fall in love, I'm here to win a half a million bucks"...I thought that was a little ironic :)

Snee

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
julie to robert: "you've won 3 luxury competitions. why do you think america loves you so much?"

i laughed out loud! i'm pretty sure that america was voting for his daughter two of those times and the third just wanted to see what this guy would say. am i wrong? i AM canadian and you americans may well love dear ol' rob.

Cliotheleo

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Who, that was a good one Naja, I missed it!

Puzzled

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL, Snee, and his answer was funny too, thinking they loved him because he was so "real."

Lostintheglades

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 10:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
hehe Snee, I'm still trying to figure out how he got all those votes....I don't vote so I can't complain but he wouldn't have been my in any of them.

Bastable

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Justin's parting words:

Who do you think will win?
"I honestly think its going to be Robert, Jee, Jack or Erica, because I can't see anyone voting for Alison and Jun if they make it to the finals."