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TV ClubHouse: Archive: What is point of last week sensory deprivation?: Archive through September 19, 2003

Charvie

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 09:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, they gave them games, craft projects and each other for company. They get free reign in a house with a pool a hot tub and no fight over the bathroom or shower. They have excercise epuipment and can eat what they want. They don't have to worry about bills, if they will make it to the F2 or what to wear. I say they are doing pretty good. And besides they found Robert's tennis shoes and are contemplting burning them. They are resourceful. LOL

Seanflynn2003

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 09:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Something normally not considered torture (e.g. lying around a swimming pool)can in an extended context with no other options could be considered a form of such.
Eating ice cream is not torture.
Having nothing but ice cream to eat for a month would be.
Sensory deprivation and lack of human contact is definately considered a form of torture and frequently used as such.
Again, if this were for a reason related to the game, fine.
If not, then CBS is wrong to do it.

K9lover1

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 09:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The bottom line is this is temporary. I don't feel the least bit sorry for them. What if they were in jail for a couple years - now that would be boredom. They are walking away with a fistful of money and all they can do is whine. Geez.

Wendo

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 09:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gina, the show did go a bit longer during 9/11 because of the extensive coverage.

Ok, Jun has officially lost it. Crying hard in her bed.

K9lover1

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 09:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I know - make Jun an offer - you can exchange places with someone on the jury - would that make her happy.

Charvie

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 09:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Poor Jun. I am thinking in BB5 people should contemplate going to the F2 with a person they like and enjoy being around. No more of this strategy stuff. LOL

K9lover1

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 09:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I Ali P.O'd because Jun isn't keeping her company?

Monalisahi

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 09:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree.....watching them read a book would be so exciting.

BTW, they were given a movie last night along with at least 1 game, have been given beads and tie-dying. I know, it's not the same as watching them read a book.

Wendo

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 09:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gotta give Ali credit here. She's handling this a lot better than Jun. She's made some bracelets with the craft stuff. Is continuing to exercise etc. Jun however, not doing so well.

Good god, this is awful. I fee so bad for her. She sounds so unhappy. Yikes.

K9lover1

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 09:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They are both spoiled brats with big mouths.

Wendo

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 09:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
K9lover, your compassion is so refreshing! :)

K9lover1

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 09:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Would you trade places with her wendo? I would in a minute. For entertainment I'd annoy Ali.

K9lover1

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 09:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I admit I have no compassion for either one. Considering what happens in the real world how can I. I work with a guy with 2 artificial legs who insists on walking instead of using a wheelchair. I know people who have lost their job, people going through divorces, on and on and on. NO I don't feel any compassion for these two.

Torch

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 09:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
CBS is doing it for the ratings. They don't care about the final house guests and they don't care about how dull the live feeds are.

They could have brought the jury back to the house for the final week and thus had Jun and Ali smooching up to the Jury. They showed the Jury leaving Mexico so they had to be bringing them back to the states, why not put them back in the house? BB producers are burnt out if you ask me!

Charvie

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 09:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the extra time was asked for before Scott was expelled. They got the extra time and couldn't very well give it back, there was nothing else to fill those slots. So they extended the F2 stay by 4 days. Also they had a lot of logistic problems I am sure getting all these people together and in the same spot. Jun and Alison are just getting the worse of it. But, always read contracts thoroughly before signing and always ask questions and be prepared for anything. This is BB. If they didn't cancel the show after 9/11, than I don't think, Jun being bored to tears or Alison hating being there is going to make them change. But than again...In showbiz...the show must go on!!!

Efilon

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 09:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm with you K-9. In the famous words of Curtis from BB1 "Suck it up and deal!" They had fun getting this far. Or at least they sure seemed to think it was fun at the time.
There are people who live with just as much or more deprivation and they don't have $50,000 or $500,000. to look forward to. Also, there are many of us who go to work every day to a job or maybe even two jobs, not for the fun, but because we have to. Life isn't always fun, sometimes you have to do things you don't like or want to do.
This is what they signed up for and if they don't want to do it they can always hit the panic button and walk out the door.

Seanflynn2003

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 09:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, many people have it worse.
But if there is no good reason for it -- and no one has suggested any during this whole thread apart from a few who seem to enjoy the suffering -- why do it?
With no point, it is sadistic and cruel.

Wendo

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 09:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Seanflynn, I agree.

Just because some people have it worse, and some have it better, doesn't mean one can't have compassion. JMO.

Charvie

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 09:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
At this point I think it's dependent on the people. I think I am sick of listening to them complain, first it was Jee and Robert every chance they got. Than various other HGS joined in on the chorus, and it seems to have come to a climaxx with these two. But,yet in the same if they had different personalities and were ok about the down time, we might all think differently about it and how CBS is treating them.

Efilon

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 10:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I deal with depression constantly and I do have compassion for it. The thing is that this is what Jun and Ali signed up for and they have to deal with it. It's amazing to me that the few posts I have made here seem to always have brought a response about how I'm wrong, I don't have compassion, I should have respect for people even when they are doing something totally disrespectful of others.
I'm glad there are posters on this board who can put me in my place so that I can know how wrong I am about all these things. Funny, didn't see to much worry about compassion or respect for Robert through most of these posts. Guess I'll just go back to lurking.
Have fun.

Cliotheleo

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 10:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
(Clio hands Efilon some of Jun's toilet paper .....)

Seanflynn2003

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 10:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Efilon -
Not suggesting that you don't have compassion. But to the original point - why keep doing this?
The answers have been 1) they signed up for it; 2) others have it worse; 3) they deserve it.
Sorry, those aren't good enough reasons for me when none of this affects the final outcome.

Wendo

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 10:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Efilon, I deal with depression daily as well. Just because they signed up for it doesn't mean one cant' have compassion and empathy for the way Jun is feeling right now. Despite all the stuff they've said the past week.

And guess what, when Rob was crying in HOH once, I felt compassion for him as well.

If you don't have compassion for Jun, or Ali, that's your choice. I'm not going to knock you for it.

Efilon

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 10:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Excuse me? I give up. You all are amazing. You have such a good way of knocking people for things they haven't even really said by saying you aren't knocking them.

As Wendo said in another thread: "It's up to Jun to get herself feeling better at this point."

Monalisahi

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 10:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here's a list of 20 things for them to do.
1. Beads
2. Tie Dying
3. Game
4. Basketball
5. Chess
6. Hot tubbing
7. Swimming
8. Tanning (they did it all summer)
9. Exercise
10. Clean the house
11. Cook
12. Memory wall (like Dani and Lisa did)
13. Laundry
14. Do their nails
15. Ping Pong
16. rearrange the furniture
17. play hide and seek
18. Stupid HG Tricks (like Stupid Pet Tricks)
19. have a conversation
20. play quarters (they could use something besides a quarter)

add to the list.