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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Flawed or Rigged Veto?: Archive through September 08, 2003

Nowwhat

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 11:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Flamingo.......I like your positive attitude! :)

Seamonkey.........I think I'll join you if you'll be so kind as to pass me a drink or 300!

Sunshyne4u

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 11:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This sounds like a memory comp..........Ali has a photographic memory, therefore RIGGED! Remember, BigBrother is fully aware of her abilities and how she "faked" the longer time on the last memory challenge. (the cameras to be put on the faces in order)

Set up setup setttttuuuuuppppppp

Makes me so happy that I cancelled live feeds after the free two weeks...I wouldnt want to be giving A.S. the impression that us internet people ACCEPT his fixing each and every comp. for certain individuals

Seamonkey

Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 12:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Flamingo.. well, I hope the opposite.. not that I want Ali or Robert around, but hope they keep Jun.. not likely tho.

Jun is being calm.

Ali is being loud.

All too tylenol pm and all but Robert are drinking..

Wendo

Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 12:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sunshyne, actually, many of the competitions are memory competitions. Several a season in fact. BB2 and BB3 had many of them. Until we see the competition there's no way for us to know anything.

Seamonkey, I don't think Jun is going anywhere.

Justshirley

Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 01:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Just FYI -- right before they went to that last FOTH of the night, Jun, Robert and Erika were sitting in the BY and Jun was saying that BB had told her that they had reviewed the tape and that there was no way that Jun would have had time to correct her answer before Ali finished, so it didn't matter that Jun stopped because her "winner" light lit up. It seemed to me that they thought BB's explanation sounded reasonable.

Missy2

Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 10:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What was the competition?


Who won?


Who's going??

Gina8642

Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 10:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ali won the Veto comp last night Missy. No way to tell who's going.

Jigglywigglyjun

Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 10:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Gina , no way to tell who is going? LOL.... Erika is going... sure thing

Gina8642

Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 10:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't believe that the competition was rigged. but I do think it is unfortunate that something malfunctioned. Just the appearance of rigging can really upset people. A redo wouldn't be fair either, since they would all know how to best do the comp by then.

I wish BB would be more careful with the run throughs and make sure everything works before hand.

Gina8642

Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 10:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm seriously not certain Jiggly. I hope Erika is going, but Ali is tricky.

Jigglywigglyjun

Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 10:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I must say.. Jun is sitting pretty right now and it is making me sick! She thinks she has it made.. I hope Ali shakes the house upside down and votes her out instead of Erika (wishful thinking) I know I know.....:(

Seamonkey

Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 10:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
We can only speculate..

It had to do with nominees, I think, because Erika said something about Dave/Jack forgot it was first Ali/Jack.. and Ali asked Jun if she got that right, Jun said yeah..

This is the first I heard that they lit up Jun's winner light prematurely and she stopped.

In tennis a technical failure like that would definnitely be a "let" and there would be a rerun.

I know that whatever they had to manipulate physically was hard on their hands, and that some lettering was in red, harder to read at night and presumably would favor the youngest/best eyes.

When Jun and Ali were in the yard, they talked about was Jun mad at Ali and Jun said NO, they explained that the timing was such that she couldn't have caught up to Ali.. she was only mad at herself, which Ali could relate to, being so competitive.

Jun said that Ali kicked a$$.. Ali thought they both did compared to Erika and that Robert was totally lame and even if he threw it he did it way too obviously..

So, who knows? I'd think something with an ultimate half mill prize would have required a rerun, but, who knows.

I certainly hope Ali boots Erika.. I'm not holding my breath. Want to keep alive, ya know.

Jigglywigglyjun

Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 10:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Gina BB wanted Ali to when it.. Im not saying it was rigged but they do give it a little shall we say push, push, to the direction they want...

Seamonkey

Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 10:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jig.. I don't think Jun thinks she is sitting pretty.. all she can do is hope that Ali isn't lying to her and continue to play a calm game. I give her props for that.. I know I thought last night if I were Jun, I'd just curl in a ball and say F you all and would not be cooking for anyone.. of course that wouldn't be good strategy.

Even if Ali boots Erika.. Ali's intention is to take Robert to final 2, not Jun. (if we believe her DR)

Jigglywigglyjun

Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 10:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sea, Jun doesn't think she is sitting pretty right now?
She told Ali last night and I quote "Erika will be gone this week, then robert. You and I will be the final two f*** them both"

Too me that sounds like she feels secure.... uh huh....

Lillyross

Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 10:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
maybe june purposely didn't hit the buzzer or whatever, knowing alison would take herself off, then erika has to be put up (no other choice) and alison with the only vote would then vote erika off. jun comes off as the good guy if she and alison get to final two. not a bad plan

Steveh

Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 10:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The only "evidence" I've seen that Ali has a "photographic memory" is Ali saying that she does. Over and over and over. I have seen no sign of this trait in the competitions. In fact, Ali seems to have the attention span of a gnat most of the time, while every once in a while she is able to obsessively fixate on a seemingly minor detail and the fixation turns out to her advantage.

Seamonkey

Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 10:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jig.. I know Jun said that to Ali, that is what their alliance would mean, but I'm sure she's well aware that Ali has Erika just as convinced of the same thing. The important thing is not to slip out of your role with a specific person.

Erika, last night, when Jun was in DR, said to Ali that OF COURSE she wouldn't have voted her out, later had to try some repair with Robert.. but even later she said, in front of Robert that she knows that Ali knows who her allies are.. then said I hope..

I know Robert says he doesn't care, just tell me if you change your mind, but bottom line, Erika said several times, to Robert that she would vote Ali out. And I think he sees that this isn't true.

Anyway I seriously doubt that off camera, Jun would be the first to admit she's totally at Ali's mercy.

One point she made to Ali had much merit.. that Robert and Erika expect Ali to ally with them, a couple, ex-couple, who are being none too discreet about the change in their attitude vis a vis one another. Ali doesn't like it when someone else uses her own techniques :)

Helgapataki

Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 12:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
From the info I've gleaned from feeds and posts, I believe that the competition involved ordering original nominees on a set of stairs (or something). It sounded like when you had one "stair" correct, a light lit up, and you moved on to the next stair. It seems that the flaw was that one of Jun's stairs lit up, even though she was incorrect, and thus she moved on thinking she was OK when she wasn't. However, BB told Jun that even if she had known, Ali's time was such that Ali would have won anyway.

If someone else has already suggested this, please disregard. If not, what do you think? Was that the problem? And, if so, was that a fatal flaw that would warrant a redo in your opinion?

Sunshyne4u

Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 01:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
WENDO- many of the HOH comps were memory comps?? Name them so I can remember.
The only one I remember clearly being MEMORY is the cameras on the Faces in Order comp.....and Ali thru that as shown clearly on the TV show.
Jee's last HOH- bocci ball game in yard
Erika's HOH- sitting in cage
Dana's Veto- undoing knots
Dana's HOH- by default as the other had incorrect answer
Rob's veto-that 'game' made bigger in yard
Rob's HOH- trying to figure out what the sequestered HGs would say
Ali's HOH- balls in tube(carnival trick comp)
I cant remember the other comps off the top of my head.

Kalekona

Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 02:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jees First HOH comp was memory
Justins HOH was memory
Dana's HOH was memory

Demsome

Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 02:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OMG I am so impressed Kalekona and Sunshyne!! You guys have very good memories. I can't even hardly remember what last weeks show was about. (maybe its my age) :(

Jazzzy

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 08:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Also, Last years show had alot of memory competitions. By Ali practicing for memeory comps, BB has had to work overtime to come up with more challenging comps. So, thank you Ali !

Boberg

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 08:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Justin's HOH was not memory..It was how well do you know your fellow HG..Justin won because he knew Ali adored elephants..this was on her questionair she filled out for BB..not on something the other HG seen..so not memory
The questions were.."which HG do you think said this?"
Everyone in the house has since agreed that only Justin would have known that about ali..

Kalekona

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 08:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Boberg in a sense that is memory, you have to get to know the hg and REMEMBER what they say..

(ali had that dumb elephant carring it around so much it was a sport to find ways to kill it, had the really though they should have known that one i did and i never dated the girl lol)