Archive through September 16, 2003
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Cameramanbob | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:05 am     Question: Is is in any way possible that Ali and Jun are "acting" with this behaviour? Is it possible that they are actually psyching each other out? I ask sincerely because I don't read a lot of updates at this stage and I don't have the feeds. Tone and inflection mean a lot in conversations. If they are really spiking up their behaviour as high as you guys say (it's almost sounding like self-parody!) then either they are The For Real Stooges - or it is a strategy. Or it is peer (gender?) pressure at such incredible levels that sociologists should come running to see this... I suppose when they have the money they can just use the tried and true, "Oh Man, it was just that HOUSE. Being in that house just does that to ya!" |
Jubale | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:05 am     No, no, no....I didn't mean the comment about Elena. She doesn't need to be exposed to that in anyway what-so-ever. The less said on that the better. I meant the HG bashing that has been going on about Erica, Nate, Jack. Apparently it was enough for Julie to bring up the names Robert used for HG's and that Jun and Ali found out about it. Why not call Ali and Jun out for their name calling. I understand the circumstances are unusual, being cooped up in the house this long, but surely these people have something else to talk about. (Will now go back to lurkdom and not stick my nose in anymore) |
Katlady53 | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:08 am     No need to revert back to lurking, Jubale! Lol! I, for one, agree with you. I would not think it a bit unfair for Julie to call Jun and Ali out regarding the slanderous comments they've made about Jack and Nate. |
Sweetpea1994 | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:18 am     When adults resort to calling a little girl a @#$%*, I draw the line. What Robert said about Ali and Jun was out of line, but they are adults and could have stood up to him. Elena is a little girl and should not have been brought into this. I personally hope BB decides to call them out on it. Their parents should be so proud. |
Llkoolaid | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:21 am     What Katlady53 said Jubale, they should be held accountable for their action, just protect the little girl. I would suggest that the mother not allow her to see the show but how would you stop it. It is the only chance to see her Dad, all summer. |
Earthmother | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:25 am     Oh, sorry! I was under the terribly mistaken impression that Jun and Ali might be someone's daughters, too... I was under the impression the Jun and Ali were adults...my mistake!! |
Crossfire | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:26 am     We all made that mistake at the beginning of the show. |
Sweetpea1994 | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:28 am     Well said Earthmother. |
Jubale | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:33 am     LOL Earthmother. Thanks Katlady, Koolaid. Elena's mom won't have to worry about waiting for Jun when she leaves the house...looks like there will be plenty of others to express that opinion for her. Heck...I might even go. (dialing 1-800-delta for ticket to LA) |
Lostintheglades | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:35 am     There is nothing more dangerous than a mother protecting her young....Ali and Jun better watch out. |
Monalisahi | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:35 am     Spunky said: The producers must be scratching their heads... for the first time we have finalists that are so despised by the majority and this will only increase the criticism towards the whole idea of a BB game. Solution: Bring Dave Back!!! Oh well, a girl can hope, can't she? |
Ark | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:35 am     I agree with Penpoint. The first year that I saw this happen, I was outraged. When I saw it happening again the next year, I stopped and thought about what was causing these people that I'd previously liked into not so likable people. Apart from justifing their continued existance in the house, their isolation significantly limits their thoughts. I know that 2 or 3 months doesn't seem like very long to us but we all have outside stimulus. These people have nothing to stimulate them except each other. They haven't been touched or talked to by anyone that loves them in a very long time. These conditions would likly fracture the psyche of most of us. This isn't to say that I approve of their behavior, I'm only saying that I understand it. |
Dram | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:37 am     I don't know if this is the right place to post this but there is an article written about what happened last night. You can find it at: Jam.canoe.ca/JamBigBrother4/sep16_bb4-can.html I'm horrible at links, hope this works. (fixed the link for you - c) |
Dram | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:40 am     Oh, forgot to add that the title of the above mentioned article is: Big Brother Net Feeds Turn Vile. |
Earthmother | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:40 am     I agree that meltdown occurs, but basic human nature does not allow you to attack a child..EVER!! unless you have serious issues. |
Monalisahi | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:43 am     Missapril I can't and won't "admire" anybody who calls a child a name such as that. I would never do it, nor would I excuse any other person for doing it, thus, I'm not a hypocrite when I loathe Jun and Ali's attack on Elena. Jun and Ali are the only 2 BB4 hg's to stoop to this behavior. BTW, could you please explain what on earth the 2000 Presidential election has to do with any of this. |
Ezgoing | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:44 am     "Adversity reveals character." Nuff said. |
Denecee | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:48 am     IMO, Ali is anything but an adult. She acts like a spoiled rotten teenager who doesn't think before she speaks, so I do not take any name calling she does serious. I doubt very seriously if she even remembers saying it and know she didn't mean it. I do think that Julie should point out to the girls that they did say it, so that they can say they didn't mean it just like Robert did. |
Dram | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:48 am     Thanks for fixing it...I'll learn one day. |
Seamonkey | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:49 am     If Mama is protective, she wouldn't be letting that little girl watch big brother without some editing and probably wouldn't let her become a pawn for the producers. A protective mom wouldn't have signed a release so that Robert could talk about them. IMO. (and no, it doesn't excuse any child bashing, never said that) |
Carrie92 | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:49 am     Robert was upfront with the girls about the names he called them. He said those things in anger and came clean to them later. They should have respected him for that. What they (Jun/Ali) are saying about Robert is much worse than the names he called them. I would be very suprised if Alison told Robert, look, I called you a f'n Cuban fa*, I called your little girl a b****, I said I wanted to crack your skull, etc. Jun might come clean. I'm still trying to hang on to the hope that she's got a heart in there somewhere, lol Remember, BB hasn't actually aired any of the comments made about Elena. In some ways I hope they do, so the jury can see it. But, if they do, I would hope that BB would give Elena's mom a heads-up about it, so she can make sure Elena's doesn't see. OT, don't you think Elena is the cutest name? |
Crossfire | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:49 am     Ouch, that is a hard hitting article for the masses who choose not to watch the feeds. It is ugly stuff, but I am glad it is not being swept under the rug. |
Kylah33 | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:53 am     I agree with Seamonkey!! and Robert never actually came clean about all the names he called them, he hemmed and hawed and admitted calling them b*tches and tramps I think... |
Cameramanbob | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 11:01 am     Ok, so ignore me! LOL! Does anyone here remember WHO of the 3 women cried her eyes out during the Rob / Elana cell-phone call, and RAN up to Rob to be first in line to hug him when it was over, and THEN went straight to the DR to say how human and touching it made R to see him that way? So do you really think that that person has no feelings? That she was being 'fake' then & 'real' now? I think this is their 'game on' faces. What brings horror to this moment in the game is that Rob has reminded them w/ the AC chat that they are being watched Big Time by Everyone - how can they not care how callous they sound? (As you can see I'm conflicted!) |
Carrie92 | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 11:06 am     1 more thing, Denecee wrote: " I doubt very seriously if she even remembers saying it and know she didn't mean it." How can she not remember saying it? When has she stopped saying it? It's a constant verbal filth-spewing. The only time she stops is when she sleeps. |
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