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Msstas1

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 03:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I find Ali and Jun's remarks this week to be repulsive at the least but don't you think Julie should call them out for it? She asked Robert about his comments towards the women. So in all fairness shouldn't she ask the girls about their Cuban, Elena and other racist/ignorant comments they made this week? I know their parents must be so proud of their disparaging remarks about, well, everything this past week.

Sheilaree

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 03:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I cant belive Jun and Ali called Robert's daughter a ***** you don't call a child that even Robert's child what about her feeling I think Robert should win and Jun and Ali be kicked out because of that remark. I hope CBS and Julie say something about that. I think Julie would be ticked off about a remark about any child because she has children herself.

Crazydog

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 03:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
How is she going to do it? I don't think she is just going to call them out when they are in the living room. Julie questioned Robert in private about his comments even though he had made them at least a week earlier - she asked Jee about it when she met him in the Outhouse.

Julie is a professional and I don't think she is going to be so tactless as to say anything to either Jun or Alison unless she can get them alone. Which she won't. The whole point about sequestering is that BB doesn't want any outside influences in the game. If Julie were to say something to Jun and Ali about calling Robert a Cuban f*gg*t or whatever it was they exactly said, while Robert is sitting on the couch, I think that would be in extremely poor taste.

Kalekona

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 03:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think they should be called on their behavior but the remarks about Elana, no she might see.

Crazydog

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 03:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sheilaree, Julie has children? Huh, I never knew that. I didn't even know she was married. It's not apparent from her CBS bio that she is, and all the other CBS Early Show bios talk about their spouses and children.

Lillyross

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 03:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with Kalekona about letting the remarks about elana drop for elana's sake...I would much rather have Julie call Ali on all the physical violence that she has threatened!

Sheilaree

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 03:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know whether I am getting Connie or Julie mixed up but which one is married to Morv Poliviki. They adopt a child.

Kalekona

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 03:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Connie Chung is married to Maury

Sheilaree

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 03:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know what happen to my first post but I think I might be getting her and Connie Chung mixed up because one of them are married to Morv Policki, and they adopt a child Sorry if it get post twice

Kalekona

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 03:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm thinking , on the live feeds they said the camera kept following Robert.. i wonder if they could be putting something together that shows the girls and things they have said about robert...

I think the "she'll never see that butterfly" upsets me more than the name calling, maybe because of what it means tothe two of them and i wish America could hear that without Elana being hurt by it... but i don't think that's possible.

Crazydog

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 03:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Right, it is Connie Chung that married daytime talk show host Maury Povich. They had problems conceiving a child so they adopted one.

Sweetpea1994

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 04:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
While she's at it, she could call them out about their "Nate is gay" and "Jack is a pervert" comments as well. I wouldn't wonder to much about what their parents think of them, they raised them after all.

Onlyhuman

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 04:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There's an easy solution to the the problem of confronting the two women about their namecalling in front of Robert.

After the HOH is done and they've evicted Robert and he's done his interview, Julie needs to come back to the ladies, congratulate them on their successful strategy and then ask them if they feel that the money they will win justifies the fact that they have engaged in a hate campaign that appears ignorant at best and racist/homophobic at worst.

My guess is that both of them will initially deny saying anything that can be interpreted in such a manner. So then Julie should read some of their more vile quotes, making sure that Elena is NOT mentioned, for obvious reasons. They will probably then blame Robert, the situation and the stress of the house. Ali will probably fake some tears and apologize in her baby talk voice. After the live show, they will most likely bash Robert again for putting them in the situation that CAUSED them to engage in such juvenile behavior.

Of course, they could actually take this call out as an opportunity to self-reflect and maybe alter their behavior in the future. That would be the best result of such direct questioning.

But, if that doesn't happen, some of us will be consoled by the pleasure of seeing them at least confronted with their actions.

Sheilaree

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 04:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree about Nat and Jack but their remark about a little girl is the most worst remark I have ever heard, I hope Robert wins because of that remark. Jun and Alison should be kicked off the show, Elana does watch the show, I hope her mother will turn off the show before it get to that remark. No child should be called that.

R151996

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 05:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No remarks about Elena were aired on Tuesday's show or will be aired at any time. That would be suicidal for the show's future. Both Ali and Jun should have already been privately reprimanded by the producers--but only regarding the comments about Elena. Robert is a grown man and has also made repulsive comments--some of which he stupidly admitted saying to Ali and Jun. That likely pushed the nasty scale up since Wednesday, but still does not excuse Ali or Jun.

Jun's combination comment about Elena and the butterfly would be the worst for Robert to take IMO. If he votes for Jun to win, he will regret it greatly once he learns of that comment.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Robert has said the butterfly stepping stone that he made is too heavy to pack, also said he would leave his gnome. I think he was implying that the producers would "take care of him" or that he wasn't really leaving tomorrow.. but in either case, the girls have talked about trashing anything he leaves behind. Per the rulebook.

The butterflies made BY Elena, I'm sure are not being threatened in any way.

I would think Robert would want to bring out his gnome and the stone FOR Elena.

Steveh

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm curious why someone would think that it would be "suicide" for BB to air some of Jun's and Ali's recent diatribes.

I think people watch the show to SEE that kind of stuff. IMO, the viewing audience wants more blatant nastiness, not less.

So-called reality TV is all about the trainwreck, not the train pulling safely into the station.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh and I'd bet they didn't show the nice things Jun said about Elena to the Mime, did they??

Kalekona

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I know he said the directions for the stone said not to move it for x amount of hours, which is after the eviction so he didn't know what to do about it..

I hope they show the HG Juns comments in full after the voting/before the cast party. She should not get away scot free on that.. same with Ali.

Maybe Dave or Michelle will make sure the subject is brought up..lol

Csnog

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Will she ask about it? NO!

If she did then they would change their behavior and actions in the house the last week.

Do you think Arnie wants that? No!

We will see the worst of whoever is the last 2.

Just what Arnie wants.

Elms

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Julie will not call them out on their remarks. CBS, more than likely, will never show them being said. It would draw too much negative attention to the network, the show, and the producers. They don't want that. All you will see is the more "mild" insults these HG's spew.

Steveh

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Again, I think that reality tv producers realized early in the game that negative attention is better than no attention at all. Most all the shows are generally viewed by critics as trailer park entertainment (we know they're wrong, but we are relatively few) and thus the creators/main manipulators don't seem to be predisposed re. supressing bad behaviors by contestants/guests. cf--Scott this year and what's-his-name with the knife two years ago. As regards how "mild" the insults are that people want to see, I think Richard Hatch--first survivor winners--set the bar pretty un-mildly for that one and BB has had its share of caustic mouths--Will, Danielle--though none--to my recollection--as blunt and crude as calling a little kid a b****h or another contestant a f****t. IMO, they cast the shows for moments just like the ones created by Robert first and now Ali and Jun.

Sunshyne4u

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It strikes me what we are missing from the Eviction Show. Anyone here who are BB1 fans can remember the Montage of the evicted houseguest's ACTIONS in the house which they HAD to watch for the first time before having their "eviction interview".

I wish they still did this. Often the montage showed the person at their best and at their worst. Things that people would deny they said in the Diary Room would be played for them causing surprise and sometimes Shock. Think of Jordan's FACE when she saw herself "caught on video"! It was hilarious (but at the same time sad)

I would LOVE to see a montage of ALI played for her PRIOR to the end of this show. I think she'd be HORRIFIED at how she looked badmouthing a child.

Carrie92

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't see how Julie could confront them without repeating what they said, which is highly unlikely.
But I DO think it should air, subtitled, and with the words partially blocked like we have been doing here. (i.e., b****, f*gg*t, etc.)

I said on a similar thread that I was thinking of writing to production... aspproductions@aol.com in case anyone is thinking the same thing.

R151996

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Viewers might tune in to watch a train wreck. Airing the comments in question would be like asking the audience to stick around to watch body parts being extracted from the train wreck.