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Charvie | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 02:05 pm     I understand Justshirley, but I do see it as a difference without a distinction. |
Justshirley | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 02:23 pm     Same here, Charvie. But remember, this sort of ceremonial hoopla is being directed at the average viewer, who is likely not going to dissect the nuances in the same way we all do. |
Charvie | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 02:44 pm     true |
Lovedana | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 09:19 am     "I think Diamond is more valuable than Gold." No, you're mistaken, Cricket. Gold is more valuable than diamond. The ultimate title would be platinum, because platinum is more valuable than gold. "The only reason it's designated as 'Diamond' is because you not only save yourself, you get the ultimate power of deciding who goes, by virtue of being the only voter. I would bet my next paycheck on it." Again, for some odd reason, people seem to think diamond is of more value than gold. It isn't! Why not call it platinum if it's more valuable? Besides, it wouldn't make sense to call that diamond if it is limited to one special circumstance. So I would bet differently. I would bet that it is a fancy name for the POV where you cannot save yourself, but you can save someone else (i.e, the POV as originally introduced in BB 3). Or it allows you to be immuned to eviction for that week, but it strips you of authority to vote out anyone that week. Hence, in this case it leaves the power to Robert. Even probable, but less likely: Perhaps it lets the sequestered houseguests decide if you choose to exercise your power of veto. |
Justshirley | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 10:02 am     Which costs more, the diamond engagement ring or the gold wedding band? Of course diamond is more valuable than gold. |
Lovedana | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 11:01 am     I stand corrected, Just Shirley. You're right. In that case, I change my opinion of BB's plan. Well, then maybe Alison does get to choose who leaves. It doesn't make sense giving it a new name though, unless it's a new rule that would apply to circumstances where there are more than one persons to put up and left to choose from (for eviction). Once again BB being so uncreative! |
Thunder | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 11:38 am     You're right, Shirley, in terms of $$$, diamond is more valuable than gold. However, when you're talking about stature or prestige, GOLD is more valuable IMO. If you're married, and you manage to last twenty-five years, you get a diamond anniversary. If you really hang in there and you make it to fifty years, you're golden. The Queen of England, having survived fifty years on the throne, just celebrated her golden jubilee. The events far outshone her measily little diamond jubilee twenty-five years ago. Since I am a child of the Commonwealth, I tend to lean toward the "gold is better than diamond" line of thinking. Does any of this matter? No. Why? Because <mod> Ali is going to make it to the finals. What will be truly GOLDEN, however, is to watch Ali suffer through the jury Q&A, and to watch her frozen smile as the former HG's announce their votes at the finale. Remember Dani's frozen smile last year? Remember how awkward and uncomfortable she looked? Yeah. Like that. (c) Go Ali!  |
Justshirley | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 11:41 am     I agree, Lovedana, about BB being uncreative. I think the main reason we're all trying to come up with other scenarios for the power conferred by the "Diamond" Veto is because it just seems so ridiculous that BB is making such a big deal of this by giving it some sort of "New and Improved! Most. Powerful. Veto. Ever." designation, when we are all well aware of the fact that the exact same result would have happened if it were still called Golden. I mean, when there is only one HG who is not either HoH or nominated, there is no choice but to substitute that HG for the one taking herself off the block. Which then, of course, leaves the taken-off-the-block PoV-winning HG as the sole voter. But it would have been the same result with the plain old Golden PoV. Although, in BB's defense, it IS the first time that there has been a PoV at this stage of the game, and it does put the PoV holder in a more powerful position that any other PoV holder before her, so I can see them wanting to point out the difference to the average viewer. If this really is all there is to the Diamond PoV, though, then BB should also have renamed this week's HoH to something along the lines of "Aluminum Foil HoH," since it amounts to no more than Immunity and a private room. HoH has ALWAYS included the power to choose who gets nominated and who gets put up in place of a vetoed nominee. So much for Arnie's quote about not wanting to usurp the powers of the HoH. That quote, and the additional two shows recently added, represent my last vestige of hope that there may, indeed, be more to this Diamond PoV than we, or the Hamsters, yet realize. Fingers and toes crossed . . . Edited to respond to Thunder -- you got my hopes all up there for a second, until I realized that the traditional 25 year anniversary is Silver. 50 is indeed Gold, but if you make it all the way to 75 big ones, it's -- you guessed it -- Diamond! Edited again to add this interesting tidbit for our child of the Commonwealth: "There are currently 2 Diamond Anniversaries, one at 60 and one at 75 years. The 75th anniversary is the original traditional diamond anniversary with the 60th being added when Queen Victoria (English Empire Monarch) celebrated her Diamond Jubilee on her 60th anniversary of accession to the throne in 1897 and this has since been adopted as an appropriate Wedding Anniversary also." |
Meggieprice | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 11:44 am     Justshirley you tickle me! LOL-aluminum foil HOH...and I was planning to come over here and tell you how much I laughed at your radioactivity suits but we were down. I love a luagh- thank you! |
Spear | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 11:50 am     Thunder, are you sure? I've always heard the 25th anniversary referred to as "silver", the 50th as "golden", and the 75th as "diamond". |
Spear | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 11:57 am     Okay, a little Googling reveals that Queen Elizabeth II celebrated her Silver Jubilee in 1977. Queen Victoria celebrated her Diamond Jubilee in 1897, the *60th* year of her reign. |
Justshirley | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 12:05 pm     lol, Spear -- looks like we were experiencing simultaneous Googling. Ooh -- that almost sounds kinky. ;) And Thunder, I had been comforting myself with thoughts of Ali's humiliation at the hands of the jury until I remembered hoping for a similar fate for Jenna from Survivor Amazon. I've given up even trying to guess what these reality show denizens will do in the end. |
Kalekona | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 12:14 pm     O/T- My daughter is deaf and one of her teachers is a friend of Christys, i can honestly say Jenna is the lowest of low and only hope that some day she has to see life as Christy does everyday! ok sorry... (i think i can say I'd deal with ali over Jenna, but i'm sure ali would have just as ignorant ideas about the deaf and disabled) |
Thunder | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 01:57 pm     Well, I wasn't alive when Victoria had her diamond, and I was only 8 when Elizabeth had her silver, so that's my excuse for messing up the gem chain. Not to mention that my hopes of ever having a silver anniversary are dwindling fast. Back to topic, I agree that CBS is hyping up the veto for the average viewer, not obsessed people like us, who will pick apart every possible possibility in hopes that somehow, someway, this veto will work to Ali's disadvantage. Julie will explain that the diamond veto holder will get to veto, nominate and vote, and the whole ridiculousness of the name will go over the average viewers head. |
Turtletrackz | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 04:52 pm     I actually like that they haven't explained the diamond veto to the players. I hope BB really does have a good twist with this because Ali really seems to be going gung ho about her security by holding it. How great would it be to see Ali and June's faces if it isn't everything she thinks it is???? That would be such a amazing moment. |
Meggieprice | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 05:22 pm     My scenario- expanding on what I hope: Julie " Alison, as this week's Diamond Veto winner, do you choose to use the veto?" "Yes Julie yada yada yada can't even think of the self aggrandizing thing Alison would say-I choose to use the veto on myself" Julie- "Houseguests, the unexpected continues- ROBERT, because Alison hes chosen to use the veto on herself, at this time as Head of Household you must cast the vote to evict either Jun or Erika- please vote now" Everyone has a look of unimagineable shcok. Robert "Uh, er, oh wow- Julie I vote to evict Jun" A girl can dream... |
Maris | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 05:34 pm     Meggie I will go you an extra step - Julie - Houseguests, the unexpected continues. Jun and Erika you will each compete in an endurance competition to determine who is evicted from the house. You are each given a jump rope - start jumping. Robert and Alison, please take your seats and see who will go to the final three. |
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