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Bondmaiden

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Exactly Wendo.

Monalisahi

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gidget.....LOL...perhaps we should ask BB to take in some ice cream brownies then.

Monalisahi

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 09:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo, yes, Marcellus was the reason for a lot of my eyerolling last year....bad habit I just can't seem to break.

Wendo

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 09:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL! I understand Monalisahi. LOL!

Monalisahi

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 09:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo, I knew you would.....LOL

Wendo

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 09:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Toucheé Monalisa, toucheé. :)

C1mag

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 09:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok just finished with Survivor. Who's next? What? It's ice creamtime? LOL

P.S. Mona you got me wondering now If grown adults look at me and start pickin. I'm gonna be on the outlook for that. :)

Wendo

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 09:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dang, C1mag, how'd ya know I was eating ice cream just now!

Go read Rob's parting words. They're up at CBS's BB site. Very interesting...

C1mag

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 09:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Looks like my prediction was right and we got ourself another vote for Ali.

Monalisahi

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 09:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1...pickin Robert style? Just please don't post any pics of it if you see it. But if you do, I reserve the right to say "that's just disgusting!!!"
LOL :)

Derby

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 09:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Do you really think Rob won't be swayed by the rest of the jury?

Won't the Dream Team vote as one, hey maybe it should only count as one!

C1mag

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 09:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I swear I'm gonna laugh if she actually wins this whole thing. I still say my theory is right.... they will all have negative things to say about Ali and the show will edit those negative things in but when they vote they will say... Jun actually screwed us all over ( the dream team along with Dana) and thought it was a sure bet we'd vote for her cause she was the cook and we'd all be mad at Miss Ali. Don't forget at week 3 she PROMISED she'd play with them and yet she left a questionable message to Dana and one by one she helped get rid of the Dream Team. She didn't veto Justin and she Nominated Jee and got him evicted. Then Rob watched as she personally let Ali get the final HOH to boot him. I'm tellin ya Ali may win this whole thing just based on her competitive spirit and a group of people who would admit they all said some nasty things but the truth was Ali played it right out front and played it hard. Ali on the other hand did try to save Justin when he was nominated, never promised Jee she would save him and explained clearly to Rob why she booted him in the end. She just played it better and as Erika said, "You might not want to take Ali to the finals because it may come back and bit you. Perhaps it would be to cocky a move to think you could beat her that easy" Ala Rich Hatch!!

C1mag

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 09:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Derby in no way do I think the Dream Team will vote as one. Rob HATES Jun. Justin may be sleeping with Dana but I've already heard him face off with his friends when he didn't agree with them. He's an honest guy and if he see's that Ali played it hard to the finish line and Rob says she blew it out in the competitions Justin will vote for Ali over Jun. Don't think that Justin has forgotten that Jun was the one who actually got him evicted. Dana of coarse will NOT vote for Ali but it will be her attitude that may end up giving Ali the victory. If she goes over board with trying to nail Ali the others may get sick of it and in spite of her vote for Ali. Dana has that opposite effect on people. I fully believe Nate is an Ali vote and Jack and Erika will vote for her as well. My wish is a 5-2 Ali victory. I will laugh if that happens.

Monalisahi

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 10:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1, one thing I keep thinking about is Jun telling Jee (and I can't remember exactly who all she did tell) that the jury would not respect the person who took Ali to the finals.

Now, since Jun so blatantly threw the last HOH comp, it shows she wanted to go to the finals with Ali.

If given the choice of these 2, I would have to (reluctantly) go with Ali because of Jun's own words and the fact that Ali was able to win the comps needed to keep herself in the game, or convince others to keep her in.

C1mag

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 10:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
See Mona I think thats exactly whats gonna happen. Robert actually had it figured out and thats why he wanted Ali out so bad when he was hoh. He knew that instead of an easy victory against Ali that it might turn around and bite the person that easily took the baite to take her.

I keep saying... I can easily respect the moves she made in regard to the game. She needed to keep that trap of hers closed but she lucked out. The larger portion of the house did the same exact thing and what makes it even better is that trash talker number 2 will be sitting right next to her LMAO!

Wendo

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 10:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have to agree with C1mag. I don't think the dream team will vote as a block with this final 2. Had it been a different final 2, maybe. But since it is Jun and Ali I think they'll vote the way they want and not as a block.

C1mag said, "I swear I'm gonna laugh if she actually wins this whole thing."

I surely be chuckling along with ya if it happens. LOL!

Monalisahi said, "C1, one thing I keep thinking about is Jun telling Jee (and I can't remember exactly who all she did tell) that the jury would not respect the person who took Ali to the finals."

Oh yeah! I forgot about that. But now I remember her saying it. Wonder if her words will come back and bite her on the butt.

Good catch Monalisahi!

(Yo, C1, sent a couple of emails. I'm annoying, I know. LOL!)

Derby

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 10:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I can still see Dana in the last show saying "Now I've got the power!" I think we can gleam from that statement that she's got her campaign going against Ali.

And Erika saying pull the knife out of my back. What affect will it have on the jury when they see the final HOH (which I assume they get to) and see Jun blatantly throw the comp.

I just don't know, I can't even pretend to know how they're going to vote. Of course, this could be more of CBS editing to think the final vote is sewed up for Jun.

This is what will keep me interested in tuning in next Wed.

Expect the Unexpected!

Wendo

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 10:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Derby, I agree with you. I'm sure Dana is crackin' her whip and campaigning hard against Ali. And, as even Arnie said, those in the sequester house are still playing the game too so she has every right to do it. The question, though, is how much influence does she carry with the other jury members? She didn't seem to have much in the house. (Voted out unanimously.) Would they now allow themsleves to be influenced by her?

I also agree, while I think Jun has an edge (as I've said before), I think the vote isn't certain yet either.

Cousin_Jake

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 05:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it was obvious from the final HOH comp that both Jun and Ali were trying to throw it. I don't know if this will have an impact on the jurors or not. I guess I don't care which one wins at this point but, all I'm looking forward to is the reunion show.

Spyder

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 07:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I must admit that the C1mag, Monalisahi , Wendo camp are swaying me to their side.

The more I think about it, the more I get the feeling that the jury will NOT reward Jun's wimpy style of play. Had she come through strong in the finals-- beaten Ali (especially in the endurance-ala Lisa), then she could have earned some respect.

I don't think that Ali could have won against anyone but Jun (another smooth move on her part)
but nobody likes Jun and she's done nothing to earn respect.

Dana's hatred of Ali is the (real) x factor. But we haven't seen her influence people in the past.

Badabing

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 07:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I still think the sequestration of the jury is not a good thing. Having them all see what goes on in the house is a lot better for the game. It changes the strategy. Everybody has to be carefull what they say in the DR as well as playing off of the others at the same time.

Also, when an HoH comp is tie, they should just each roll a dice or cut a deck of cards and let fate decide who wins, that way there would be less throwing of comps and make it more interesting.JMHO

Ezgoing

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 07:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Until Jun so obviously threw the final HOH, I thought she was a clear winner over Ali. But we don't know how the jury will perceive that choice, and it could backfire on her. The fact that Jun is unwisely (IMO) offering some vital help to Ali about how to answer potential questions from the jury about some moves she made is another example of Jun not thinking it through, unlike her play till now (IMO). Soooo,
guess we'll have to wait and see Wed how it all looked to the only ones whose opinions count--the jury. Fun, fun, fun!!

Edited to add:
LOL! To be on topic---I was dismayed to hear Ali's parents take on their daughter's performance so far. Sure, they should give her support and can be rightfully proud of her "bulldog" competitiveness. I think it would also have been possible to express their disapproval of some of her choices though without being disloyal to her. Eddie's mom (BB1) handled his potty mouth issue quite well I thought--didn't she have a bar of soap or something? And Robert's dad got my thumb's up when he distanced himself from his son's offensive comments about women ("he didn't learn that from me") but still maintained a clear support of his son. THAT's what I would have wanted to see from the Irwins. I have to wonder, too, what kind of parents CHOOSE to place their child in an environment so rife with the underbelly of our natures---backstabbing, lying, cutthroat---and they call it a BEAUTY pageant??!!! I don't get it.

I hope that with the benefit of some time passing, not only Ali but her mom and dad will develop a different perspective on her BB participation and hopefully see that there were times she could (and should) have made other choices. Even if she wins the grand prize, it does NOT justify ALL of her actions; she could have won without going as far as she chose to go, IMHO.

Monalisahi

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 07:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Spyder, don't let me sway you, because I'm still swaying in the wind myself. I don't have a clue. I also think it could just as easily go to Jun.

See, I'm looking at it objectively (above) not as a hg who has been a "victim" (and I use that term loosely here) of Ali.

I can also give an objective argument for voting for Jun in regards to the final HOH.

Jun had to work the hardest during the last HOH. It was obvious that she was trying to throw the entire comp and Ali just couldn't get any questions right. It had to come down to a tie-breaker which Jun made sure Ali would win.

Honestly, I have no clue how this vote would go, but I can see objective reasons to vote for either one, so different from last year, IMO.

Missapril

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 08:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
jun not only has earned the respect of every single jury member, she will be rewarded for it by winning the game. anyone care to 'enlighten' me on just how one has managed to convince him/herself that ali has earned any respect from anyone (on the jury or in america in general?) lol! some people's idea of 'respect' sounds a lot more like the basis on which most people shun and avoid people for fear of guilt by association. what are you people, like 12? LOL!

Earthmother

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 08:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Franny pressing the "ignore" button and moving on

Missapril

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 08:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i accept that surrender.

Earthmother

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 08:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
There's no white flag, I just refuse to respond to your constant baiting... Talk to the hand...

Badabing

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 08:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Your edit is "right on" EZ

Missapril

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 08:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
uh huh... LMAO!! but you had to actually post a message saying so? WAY too easy!

Lancecrossfire

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 08:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Missapril, stop slamming /baiting posters.