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Ryn

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 07:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I set up a poll on my site yesterday (click on my name for the link) - and right now the results are:

Jun: 47
Ali: 42
Robert: 10

I voted for Jun - I think she will take it. At least she is a fan of BB - unlike Rob & Ali.

Philamom

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 08:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that Jun will definitely win over Ali. I think the best that Ali can hope for is 2 votes ... possibly Nate and Erika will vote for her, but that's it. And I'm not even sure if they'll support her.

I don't think it'll come down to whoever "played the best game" in the eyes of the jury. Whether or not you liked Dani last year, she played harder and better than Lisa. But the jury didn't see that -- it was too personal for them. People don't forget that quickly. This year's jury won't be any different. It will be personal for them, and they won't give Ali the vote.

Spunky

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 10:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It will be personal indeed.
I don't know if this is going to be a lesson to Ali or she'll become worse in the future.

In the meantime, let Jun enjoy her moment of fame and I can only hope it will be short lived.

Spyder

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 12:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've read over the posts and I don't believe anyone has mentioned "the gender factor."

In my observations of the voting on Survivor & BB
I have seen a trend toward rewarding guys who lie and manipulate, vs. females who are perceived as having played "fair."

Think about the classic vote-- Richard Hatch vs. Kelly. Richard was lauded for his tricky, backstabbing ways, but Kelly was chided.

I can't stand Alison, but I believe that if she was a guy she would have a much better chance
of winning than she does as a female.

I agree with others on the potential vote breakdown.

IMHO, Jun has 3 votes locked--- Dana, Jee and Jack. Dana loathes Ali, Jee will go with someone familiar, and Jack-- well Ali accused him of being a pervert!

That means that Jun only needs 1 more vote-- Justin, Erika, Robert or Nathan.

All 4 of these votes could go either way. Justin may want to get closer to the money and vote for Ali, Erika might consider her word her bond, Robert can't stand Ali or Jun, but I think he grudgingly sees Ali as a superior competitor, and Nate may only be able to save face (in his own mind) by crowning Ali as the supreme deceiver. However-- Jun only needs 1 of those (I'm thinking Justin, influenced by his new squeeze, or Erika, in retaliation)

BB has denied most of us a favorite player this year (they are all abominable) puhleeze, puhleeze don't deny us Ali's smackdown!!!

Monalisahi

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 12:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Spyder, I said the exact same thing last year regarding the "gender" factor. A woman has to play innocent in order to win and a man has to play tough. If that holds true this year, and I'm not exactly sure it will (especially since several of them said they liked Dani last year), then Jun has an ever so slight advantage.

Spunky

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 12:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Mmm, quite interesting... the "gender factor".

However, I disliked Roddy just as much... although I did like Richard Hatch, mainly because he showed me he was quite smart.

So, I don't care how they break their promises if it helps their strategy, what I can't stand is their nastiness, what use is to tell us in the DR that those were fake tears for Erika, just to get one more vote...
What use is to b.itch about Robert's being favored by America because of his daughter?
What use is to make fun of the evicted houseguests or what use is to accuse them of being rapists or perverts or molesters.
Why can't these people have a conscience??
That's what I can't stand.

Ooops, there are other threads about this...

Muse

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 12:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm changing my initial prediction a bit...

Dana - Jun (obvious - she hates Alison)

Nathan - Jun (in his parting words, he says things can come back to haunt players. I just have a feeling he was talking about Ali. Additionally, he says he wants Jack or Erika to win, and I somehow doubt that he's suddenly started rooting for Alison.)

Justin - Jun (has said he'll vote for whoever he considers to be more honest; I think he'll consider Jun the least *dishonest*, and plus Ali will lay it on too thick in the questioning)

Jack - Jun (said he wanted Jun and Erika to be the final two)

Jee - Jun (said he'd rather see Jun win over Ali; he's friends with Jun's brother)

Erika - Jun (said she wants Robert or Jun to win)

Robert - Jun (I suspect that Ali will win the final HOH and evict him; he'll hold a grudge)

Jun wins 7-0.

Spyder

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 02:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Unless his pals can help him "snap out of it," it looks as if Robert is an Ali vote.

Perhaps he can be deprogrammed in the jury house. Just heard him asking Ali "if they could still be friends" after the game.

(GAG)

Of course Ali reassured him and even called him "sweetie" (before reverting to her usual behind-the--back flaming)

Interesting that you noted the GF last year Mona.
I really hope that we get to see some of the "behind the scenes" brainstorming at the jury house. I don't want to just know the vote- I want to know why!!

Spunky

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 04:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Spyder,

Robert believes Jun will win Round 3 and it's Jun evicting him and not Ali..but he's also fishing for info... he was expecting Ali to say:

Or if I'm out we'll be cool.. but she didn't say that..

Spyder

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 04:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for the insight, Spunky. I hope you are right and Robert was acting strategically, and not merely pathetically.

I never considered Robert a sympathetic person, and yet I find myself feeling somehow sorry for him. It's painful to watch anyone being a chump. (Especially when Ali is the chumper!)

Maris

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 05:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I would like for the last week go go like this. Seven people on the jury, seven days left. Tonight, Robert leaves and Dana comes into the house for 24 hours, tomorrow Dana leaves and Nathan enters the house for twenty four hours, etc until Wednesday night.

After the first member of the jury has left, she goes to a hotel where she remains sequestered from other jury members for the week. Next wednesday, Jury members come in for a live vote.

I believe Jun wins in a unanimous decision.

Cricket

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 06:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it will be 5/2 in favor of Jun.

Jack, Erika, Justin, Dana and Jee will vote for Jun.

Nate and Robert will vote for Ali.

Sunshyne4u

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 06:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I really dont know you guys!

Now that it is the final week, and so much time has gone by, I feel that it is "anyone's game".

1)Justin- Probably Ali (but I wouldnt bet on it)

2)Erika- ?

3)Jack- ? ( he doesnt KNOW Ali used to call him pervert!)

4)Jee- Probably Jun cause he promised her.

5)Dana- Definitely JUN (and may convince Justin!!)

6)Nathan- Probably Ali (as he did have a little crush and feels she "played the game")

7)Rob- probably Ali (because she "played the game")

SO breakdown is 3 ALI 2 JUN and two votes uncertain....Erika/jack will probably vote the same BUT FOR WHOM?? my brain.....she may explode!!

Spunky

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 07:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So that easy... Jun.

Stingerman

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 07:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry but Ali screwed too many people over and I don't see her winning. It will definately be Jun.

R151996

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 08:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here's my take--
Dana--Jun (no brainer)
Nathan--probably Ali (the players he said he had a score to settle with were likely Robert and Jun)
Justin--swing vote (Ali if it's time to cut Dana loose, Jun if it's not)
Jack--swing vote ("1 million to 0" in the HOH tiebreaker might have Jack leaning toward Ali)
Jee--probably Jun (promises are hard to break)
Erika--swing vote (Ali did evict her and she said she'd vote for the player who did that; if Jack leans toward Ali Erika would likely follow)
Robert--probably Ali (thinks she played the best)

IMO, both players are likely to get at least two votes.

Ric_Munoz

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 10:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun's supporters:
Jee, Erica, Nathan, Justin, Dana, Jack, Robert

Alison's supporters:
Oops--the jury pool has been drained! Maybe Ali can find comfort in caressing that old tiara and scepter of hers to ease the walloping sting of being skunked on finale night AND of having the dubious distinction of "first-ever zero-vote-getter" in BB jury-vote history.

Best moment of BB4: Robert finishing 3rd.

Hamsterville

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 10:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't have the feeds and am not a Jun fan so my wishful thinking is: Ali- Erika, Robert, Nathan, Jack, Justin, and for Jun- Dana, Jee

Crazydog

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
After seeing the comments of Justin, it's clear that he does not like Alison at all. I do not think he's going to vote for her.

I think Robert will be ticked at having been called out by Alison about his threats, especially when because Alison said it during the eviction, that the jury will see it.

I think Jack is now a toss up - if Jun would have tried during HoH I think he would have certainly been for her.

Jun - Dana, Jee, Nathan, Justin, Robert
Alison - Jack, Erika

Csnog

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Last night Erika asked the jury if they wanted to see the knife in her back. (Ali voted her off and she thought Ali was her friend)

Erika will vote for Jun and Jack told Erika before he left that he would vote for Jun.

Trinity63

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun - Dana, Jee, Justin, Robert, Erika, Jack

Alison - Nathan maybe. He's a wild card.

Spunky

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
BB is sure Jun is the big winner and already editing the tv shows in her favor. Her DR entries as always perfect, but last night they made sure she had the stuff to play BB with all her description of what it takes to play BB. She mentioned the things a BB player has to do to win and compared her words with some clips of her doing just that... of course leaving out the bad parts.
Then they showed Ali in a less positive way, like being the s.lut who sleeps with the enemy to get ahead... although good at crucial competitions.

It was a clear indication that BB already must know the Jury's thoughts on their selection.

C1mag

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
We'll see. I think Ali is gonna win.

Llkoolaid

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think I will be wrong I always am but here is how I see it:

Dana- Jun for sure
Jee- Jun
Erika-Jun
Jack- Jun
Justin-maybe Ali
Nathan-maybe Ali
Robert-maybe Ali

I think Jun will win and I think it could be a blowout with Ali getting no votes.

Spunky

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
C1.. I'd like to know what makes you think the Jury will pick Ali to win.
You may make me more confident to believe it as well...