Wendo | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:11 pm     You know, if I were on that jury and I saw that Rob barely gave it a fight (less than two hours folks), I'd be hard pressed to give him the money. I can't believe he gave it up so fast. I think this has literally been one of the shortest endurance contests for last HOH. I mean, give it a few hours for crimeny sakes. Ali seems to be the only HG giving it a go here; going all out to win competitions. Starr, I saw Jun lift her hands. It was when she was putting her shawl up over her head. |
Hamsterlady | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:15 pm     Trying again.... Jun let go
Then Rob let go
Ali was the last one standing
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Efilon | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:16 pm     I can't believe Rob didn't hold out for a 100% guarantee, not that that would make any difference to Ali. She lies like a rug. She's already told Jun that she's not going to take him. |
Bastable | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:17 pm     Robert has to win the next HoH segment or he's officially in third place and it's Clash of the Floaters in the finals. |
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Hamsterlady | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:19 pm     I give up... |
Meggieprice | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:21 pm     Bastable- that is not how it works. Jun and Robert compete in the second part- the winner of that competes with Ali in the third and the winner of that decides who to take. Robert could still be in F2 if one of the women wins HOH and decides to take him (not likely...) |
Potterlily | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:28 pm     THIS BITES!!!!!!! SHE IS JUST ANOTHER WILL......... |
Wendo | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:31 pm     I just can't believe he tanked so quickly. But, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised; he didn't last long in the cage endurance competition either. I just don't think Robert is capable of these types of competitions. Ones where he needs to stay in one place, not move, and keep his hands still. He's just too fidgety. Btw, the first part of the last HOH has always been endurance. I really don't see this as any different than past ones. I honestly don't believe Rob would've won it no matter what type of endurance challenge it was. |
Bastable | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:35 pm     Meggie--but that's exactly what I mean. If Robert doesn't win the next HoH segment, he's can't be HoH, and Ali and Jun are going to compete to be the HoH. The important fact here is that neither Jun nor Ali plans to take him, especially with the Dream Team in the jury. Robert HAS to win the second part to stay in the running or he's almost sure to be dumped. |
Stingerman | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:43 pm     From what I remember from last year Ali will get the HOH title for winning this first part. I just watched last years set yesterday and Lisa got the room with all the goodies after winning the boat competition. They didn't compete for the rest of the competitions until days later. I may be wrong but that's how it showed from my tapes. Granted she may not be the "WINNER" just yet but for now she gets the room and the goodies I think. |
Gina8642 | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:43 pm     I didn't like this endurance comp as much as I liked the boat comp last year - or even the cage comp earlier this year. The ice was stupid and applied unevenly. You could see it coming down more on Jun's side. The chunks were clearly huge and could have hurt someone. They were hitting Alison in the face. It all seemed poorly thought out and planned. The snow visual just wasn't as interesting as the storm and boat visual. I didn't like the roofs because the fall was kind of far, and someone could have hurt themselves. I also really like the endurance comps to have a long term possibility. That ice kind of made it impossible to last very long. Also, Robert doesn't have much body fat. I'm not surprised that an L.A. guy had a bad reaction. |
K9lover1 | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:46 pm     I'm certainly not surprised that Ali won it tonight. Please Please do NOT let her win BB4. I guess it's too much to hope for that a "nice" person would win again. My hope now is that she totally poisons that jury against Ali. If Jun wins the next segment I can cancel my feeds - there is a bright side. |
Meggieprice | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:52 pm     Oh- I musunderstood you Bastable- I thought you meant that the rules dictate that he will be in third if he loses against Jun rhather than that it looks as if that is what it would mean from what we know about Jun and Ali. Got it! I wonder if either one of them is thinking about really taking Robert? |
Kalekona | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:53 pm     lets see.. Robert is from So. Cal. and is cuban. jun is from new york and ali was an ice skater just who had the advantage in this one? I'm headed to the airport now to fly down to the house and B! tch slap Robert for quitting and trusting Ali.... |
Bastable | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:58 pm     Don't forget that Robert is also a dancer. And remember that he did outlast Jun, for all her alleged advantages for being a Yankee. |
Kalekona | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 09:20 pm     being a dancer has nothing to do with the cold. Even jun and ali said he had welts and was shivering.. I was talking about his disadvantage of not being use to snow and ice. And i think jun knew she was safe and not going to beat ali so she let go. |
Bastable | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 09:23 pm     You may be right about Jun, but I am not really convinced that living in a place that has snow makes a person less prone to welts. We're all built the same. If we're using that reasoning as an argument that BB slanted the competition toward Ali, I'm not on board. I think the reasoning is weak. |
Wendo | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 09:23 pm     Oh good golly. Would anyone be crying foul if Rob had won? Probably not. And, he barely gave it a shot so who's to know what could've happen. Kale, the guy tanked on the cage competition too. He stinks at endurance challenges, plain and simple. |
Watching2 | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 10:00 pm     I live in the east and every year I have to adjust to the cold AGAIN. It's not like you get a life-long immunity to the cold just because you go through bad winters. LOL I hate the snow and cold more and more every year. It's funny how when fall comes we're all freezing when the temp goes down to the 50s at night and then 3 mo. later after having days in the single digits or teens, we get a day in the 30s and everyone thinks it's like summer. It's all relative! So, this NYr is telling you I actually would suck at that kind of competition since my fingers and toes get a nasty reaction to the cold and I take meds so it isn't as bad. Even in the summer, it hurts to have to get things out of the freezer dept at the grocery store. I just don't think Robert is built for ANY kind of endurance comp. He seems pretty frail in some ways. |
Cangaroo | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 10:04 pm     Not to defend him, but when watching it did appear that he was using his back as a shield and the ice was sticking to his sweater...meaning the cold was stuck to his back the whole time and it didn't appear it was sticking like that to whatever sort of cloth the girl's shawl and jacket was made of. Maybe that's just my twisted interpretation though. |
Spunky | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 10:23 pm     Julie said this HOH is in three parts. Now when Jun left, according to Julie, she will be going to part 3... how's that?? Then she said the last one leaving will automatically go to part 2... I'm lost, what about Robert...and why does Jun still compete?? I thought it would have been between Robert and Ali. Does anyone know exactly how it will be played out? |
Kalekona | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 10:30 pm     Ali goes does not have to compete in part two.. actually once jun left if Robert knew he couldn't hold on longer than ali it didn't matter when he let go he and jun face off in part two. (again i want rob to win but i still think he was an idiot for believing anything ali said...) |
Spunky | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 10:34 pm     Oh I get it... thanks Kale.. So, when is this going to be.. part 2? and part 3? Is it going to be triva?? Now I understand why Julie (on that Radio show) said to be interested in seing a finale with Ali and Jun, meaning part 3 of the HOH comp. |
Wendo | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 10:48 pm     Spunky, according to what Rob said at dinner, the second part of final HOH is Monday. The third part will likely be on Wed., during the last show. I imagine it'll be something similar to the past two years second parts. A task challenge of some kind. Part three will likely be trivia since it will occur during the show. |
Meggieprice | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 11:10 pm     I'm confused- the last show? Why would the third part be n the last show? Spunky did you hear the radio show? Julie thinks they would be an interesting final two, not finale two! and looks she will get her wish... |
R151996 | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 11:30 pm     Jun just said HOH part 2 is Sunday--in time to be shown on Tuesday's show. That would fit the regular Tuesday show production schedule that has included up through the Sunday afternoon veto meetings. Part 3 should definitely be live Wednesday. Last year's part 3 was live before the eviction to two, and BB2's part 3 was scheduled that way before the show schedule was disrupted. |
Wendo | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 12:15 am     Oops, sorry, not last show but next live show. My bad! And, oops sorry about when the second part is. I thought he said Monday. |
Meggieprice | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 12:31 am     Now that I heard Robert had welts across his back I can understand why he left. Poor delicate thing! |
Prisonerno6 | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 06:44 am     "actually once jun left if Robert knew he couldn't hold on longer than ali it didn't matter when he let go he" Exactly. Let's face it. Ali is an ice skater from Pittsburgh. Robert is a Cuban from Los Angeles. Who is going to be able to handle getting "snow" (i.e. shaved ice) thrown at them all night long? If Ali made a mistake and took her hands off in the first hour, then I can see him trying to hold out against Jun, but once Jun was gone (and by a mistake) I think we can all agree Ali was going to hold on come hell or high water. Better for Robert to cave and be comfortable than risk getting sick or hurt. (Personally, I think the "snow" thing was ill-considered. That stuff was coming over the wall at a hefty clip, and at that speed, it wouldn't take that big a chunk to do some damage.) |
Spunky | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 07:48 am     I don't think it's fair to Ali that Jun gets by with an excuse like this: "I will help you win HOH because I'm sure you'll take me to the finals". What a crock. I hope she loses to Robert on the second round. There is a possibility that the Jury sees her poor performance on the HOH 3 parts because she didn't need to work that hard and will give the win to Ali. |