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Archive through September 23, 2003
Mpls | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 05:48 am     Ali's family will continue to say she is just misunderstood and was just playing the game. I believe her boyfriend will be too stupid to dump her as he will get caught up in the fact that in their small town, she is a celebrity. So he'll hang around because she'll convince him she was thinking of THEM and THEIR future all the time she was doing what she did. I think some putrid, shock jock local radio station around town will hire her for their "morning zoo" type format to sit around and spout out "shocking" things. After about 30 days after the celebrity wears off, they'll let her go. I predict most of the 50,000 2nd prize money will go to a nose job. |
Badabing | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 06:05 am     I agree with Mpls, there sadly is a market for people like her and she does have a fan base ( i'm not one of em )...We've seen it right here on TVCH, some people actually condone her behavior, but that's their choice. |
Jolly_Penguin | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 06:18 am     I don't particularly endorse her behaviour, but it got her to the final 2, so I can't really speak to harshly against her. People get a little caught up and critical over how nice the people play in this game, when it isn't about that at all. If a mean and dirty strategy works, I want to see it. For some reason, though, I enjoyed it much more when Will did it than when Alison did..... maybe I'm sexist.... maybe they have different styles, I'm not sure. That being said, I'd like to see OTHER strategies that work besides Nasty (Will/Alison) and Shadow (Lisa). I would especially like to see somebody who comes off as nice but lies and cheats without anybody catching on. Danielle was sort of headed in that direction. |
Chippy | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 06:39 am     What555... I think you nailed it. |
Missapril | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 06:53 am     How can 'it' NOT be 'all about" how nice people play in this game when the decision is finally made by the people who played the game, real humans with bias decided by their own experience with the final two and, we should hope, ultimately influenced by how the final two treated them during the game? If that weren't the point a totaly objective jury would be voting. It IS about how one plays the game with regard to the other players in whose hands their fates rest. |
Bastable | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 06:59 am     I think if Danielle had won last year we wouldn't be going round and round on this now. Because then it would be clear, after Dr. Will, that the most cutthroat player is perfectly allowed to win this game. If Dr. Will and Danielle were the predecessors, there would be no ammunition to assess Jun and Ali's manners and judge them on their behavior. |
Charvie | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 07:08 am     She may encounter a lot of negative and positive fedback from peers and family. I hope she takes Jun's advice and go to law school or a graduate school of some kind. That she sticks to her plans to not get married soon and work on her personal ambitions and take the time to find out what they are. What she will do is probably go shopping, spend some time trying to figure out what to do next and get on with the business of living. |
Mssheila | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 07:13 am     I think all of you have really good points. I too find it too much of a stretch to think that Ali will change her behavior after seeing the show. I think that she'll be amazed at any negative response, she will truly not understand why people do not adore her. She will not be able to grasp that people dont understand why she HAD to act the way she did on the show. She's a bit narcissistic, so she will probably go on in life just as she has in the show, thinking that the rules in life dont really apply to her, and she deserves nothing less than pure adoration from the people around her. I am not sure what will ever change Ali, if Ali thinks that the way she is is perfectly OK. Also, she will likely be applying her "strategy" in other areas of her life, trying to get a job, trying to get on TV, she'll be cut throat. She acknowledges that there is nothing left to compete for in her life, no more ice skating, no more dance, no more pageants, etc, so I think she'll have to find a job (or go to school for a job) that she believes will be in a competitive market, as she thrives in that kind of situation. Of course, I dont think that anyone will actually try to harm her, but an awful lot of people are sure threatening her. I said this before, if anyone actually HURTS Ali because of her behavior on a Reality TV show, that person has bigger problems than Ali will ever have. I do wonder though, if the people promising to toss a few tomatos her way at the movie screening will actually do it.. <edited to add- I better stop now, this just gets longer and longer.... LOL!> |
Mssheila | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 07:16 am     Also, I didn't watch the 2nd season enough to know about Will's actions, but I did follow last year as much as I have this year. I remember Danielle calling Roddy "The Devil" and other things of that nature- but I DO NOT remember her ever calling a 7 year old girl nasty names. Danielle was a kind PERSON, just not a nice contestant, and I think everyone saw that in her, and we cannot say the same for Alison. I think comparing Ali and Jun to Dani is ridiculous. |
Missapril | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 07:22 am     no one on this show called a child nasty names, either - which is clear to anyone who read the transcript/heard the comments. it's obvious they're talking about robert (or hadn't you heard 'b***h' isn't just for us gals anymore? lol! it's an all-purpose dis!) |
Lancecrossfire | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 07:25 am     Missapril, please immediately stop with the comments about the potential intelligence of the posters on this site. Challenge the issues of BB, not your fellow poster's intellect. |
Justshirley | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 07:27 am     Anybody who compares Ali in ANY way to Will from BB2 needs to rewatch BB2. There is no comparison. |
Wendo | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 07:58 am     Badabing said, "I agree with Mpls, there sadly is a market for people like her and she does have a fan base ( i'm not one of em )...We've seen it right here on TVCH, some people actually condone her behavior, but that's their choice." Really? People on TVCH have condoned her behavior? Could you point out some posts for me so I can read them too because I haven't seen them. Thanks! |
Happymom | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 08:09 am     I agree all the way with Msshelia. |
Curtisahahahaha | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 08:32 am     I think she will encounter a loving circle of friends and family who are very proud of her for going the distance in this game. |
Bastable | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 12:12 pm     Justshirley, can you please explain how there "is no comparison" between Will and Alison? I think there are quite a few qualities they have in common,including sexual manipulation and trash talking. But you think there is nothing in common. Can you please go into that a little more so that I can understand what you mean? |
Earthmother | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 01:37 pm     I think there is definately a comparison between Will and Ali..they both were able to switch sides and manipulate the others to keep them. However there are other ways I don't see the comparison. Will had a marvelous sense of humor. When he made comments he directed them at the hgs and not at their children, and most of his comments were in the dr and not discussed with other hgs... When others would go off about this or that he would just say "uh, huh". Lisa won last year because the jury found Dani distasteful...Will won the year before because the jury found Nicole distasteful. This year the jury might find them both distasteful..then it will come down to degree. |
Demsome | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 01:46 pm     I agree with Bastable. They are very similar (Ali and Will) but Will being a man it is much more acceptable to alot of people, than that behavior from a woman. Personally I didn't like Will and hated he won but am not AS upset with Ali. Go figure. |
Juiceman | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 03:21 pm     No comparison. Will made it to the final almost exlusively for his ability to lie to others and appear as non-threatening. Alison is in the final for almost no other reason than her PoV wins. (though she did dupe Nathan in way) Alison never had anyone fooled. Not like Will. I almost see them as opposite sides of the same BB champion. (well Alison hasnt won first place yet) |
Italiana | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 05:53 pm     Her family won't think anything is out of the ordinary with her behavior because they are probably used to it. If I were her friend or acquaintance though, it would be difficult. I saw with my my own eyes how good she is at being deceitful and totally turning things around. I would certainly have some reservations in the trust department. |
Wendo | Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 02:18 am     Juiceman said, "Alison never had anyone fooled." I disagree. She did fool Robert and Jee when Erika and Jack were on the block. She gave them the impression she would vote out Erika. As a result, she was not nominated because they felt they could "trust" her. Then, she votes out Jack. Sounds like being fooled to me, imo. |
Mzcruella | Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 02:38 am     The thing for me about Will was he was up front with his "evilness". He told his other HGs not to trust him, he'd lie and backstab them, but they kept him around anyway. I hated him from the first eipsode but then the more I saw of him and his DR interviews, he grew on me and I ended up rooting for him...LOL! He played the people but also told them he was playing them. To me he was and always be the Master, and anyone who compares themselves to him are fooling themselves...I know others will disagre with this. Dani & Ali have just been sneaky back stabbers, IMO. Will told people not to trust him. Back to the subject line....I doubt Ali will encounter anything majorly different in the real world. She's been on TV now, and for a sad ammount of people, that will impress them. She seems to be a legend in her own mind and I don't see that changing. |
Cousin_Jake | Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 03:56 am     Will's survived his many nominations by planting the seed often that anyone could beat him in the final as he was such an evil player. The others obviously believed him (hence Monica's eviction in favour of him) Nicole probably would have come second anyway but I think she might have gained a little respect and perhaps an extra vote or 2 if she had booted Will and Kept Monica. |
Llkoolaid | Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 04:10 am     I think Will stayed because they all began to think they could beat him in the end, just as I think Ali would have been kept if she hadn't of won all the last challenges. Will was open about it, remember his closing speech, I was floored, I thought he lost it all with that. Will played it with humour, Ali didn't, that is the differance to me. Oh and I loved Dani's game. Darn DRs. |
Countrymeadow | Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 06:30 am     I work with someone very much like Ali. Not personal appearance, but personality. She believes we are all here just to revolve around her world. She makes some decisions and says things on a daily basis that completely shock and amaze me. Sometimes I wonder if we're even living on the same planet. She'll never ever change. Ali is the same. She sees nothing wrong in the way she acts and even watching tapes of the shows or reading transcripts will never ever change that girl. It takes all kinds to make this world turn and unfortunately, there are more Ali's out there than I even care to think about. What will she do when she gets out? My guess is....practice these words " Do ya want fries with that? " |
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