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Monalisahi

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 11:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Anybody have a clue what would happen if one of the F2 walks out?

Wendo

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 11:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Monalisahi, I expect CBS would do everything in their power to not let such an event happen. However, if one of the F2 did walk out??? I have no idea. I can't imagin walking at that point.

Coffee

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 11:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ali was telling Jun that they would have to do interviews when they got out of here. Jun said she didn't think the other BBs had to. Ali said but we are bigger than them. I wonder why Ali called Jun a f...g maniac depression.

Sunshyne4u

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 11:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh come one you guys.....anyone who has watched the show in the past knows that the evicted HGs get a TOUR of the BB house to watch the two remaining finalists.

I would say that the behaviour that we have been seeing from both girls is for the benefit of the cameras and whomever is 'visiting' behind the walls. If Jun is anything like myself PMS crying is like turning on a tap every time I think of something emotional.

This could truly work in Jun's favour if the HGs see Jun upset and crying while Ali is happily working out in the backyard all the while complaining about Jun's behaviour.

Remember folks, JUN is the BBfan who applied....ALI was just brought in as an EX and doesnt know squat. I know I sure wouldnt tell Ali to watch what she says since the other HGs could be right behind the windowglass LOL!!

OH, I must say .....I dont feel Ali is being sincere to Jun at all, Just my opinion.

Sunshyne4u

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 11:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Coffee- Ali is making fun of Jun's PMS and crying. Manic depression is a serious MENTAL ILLNESS...Ali is ridiculing and mocking Jun's sadness.

Spear

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 11:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
But Sunshyne4u, this year is different. Because of the jury sequestration, I don't think they'll let the jury see Jun and Ali until the Q&A session.

Monalisahi

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 11:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo....ok, just wondering.....I was half expecting Ali to tell Jun the same thing she told Rob (or was it Jee). Bet that would perk Jun up real quick.

Wendo

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 11:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
*sigh* Sunshyne4u, are you watching the feeds? Reading the live feeds?

If not, read this thread because it explains a lot of what's happened tonight.

(Additionally, I've never heard that the jury sees behind the scenes while the final two are still in the house. IIRC, they get the backstage tour at the wrap party.)

Coffee

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 11:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sunshyne4u

Ali looks like she wants to help Jun (at least to Jun) but to say F...g maniac depression to the camera shows what she is really thinking. I agree that it is serious and no way Ali should have said that.

Monalisahi

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 11:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
<stepping away from Coffee, cuz she's gonna get it now>.....LOL

Sunshyne4u

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 11:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Read it all....and the live feeds. I am not sure why you are sighing LOL ALI is acting and her brutal comments made under her breath are a true gauge of her character.

I am not sure what IIRC is.

As for the tour when the final two are in the house, it had been discussed before. Been a lurker since BB1 and they did it then even. Either that or I am delusional and having false memories (caused by a truly dismal season of BB4! parts of my brain may be in coma)

Wendo

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 11:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sunshyne4u, well, I disagree. I don't think she was acting and I think she was sincere.

IIRC = If I Recall Correctly

Perhaps someone can clarify the whole backstage thing for us. My memory is that it didn't happen until after the show.

Coffee

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 11:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry, I put maniac depression, should have been maniac depressive.

Spear

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 11:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I seem to recall previous houseguests who claimed they could hear the evicted houseguest talking behind the walls. Anyway, even if it were true, they wouldn't do it this year because of sequestration.

Coffee, it's "manic-depressive".

Monalisahi

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 11:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have to say, even though I didn't think much of the guy, I think Jun would have been better off if Rob would have been there. He was always very good when somebody was upset. He has even comforted Jun before.

Coffee

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 11:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree that Robert seemed to help Jun. Tonight Ali told Jun that it was a good thing she was there instead of Robert. Somehow I don't think so.

Sunshyne4u

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 12:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ummmmmm the HGs were shown packing and leaving the Sequester house. They come as a group and see the house. Not sure what being sequestered has to do with it?

LOL Since we are getting into it. Bi-polar depression or Manic depression is the condition, if you are referring to a patient they are Manic depressive or just plain called "bipolar". It often requires treatment of strong drugs, sometimes Lithium.

If you are referring to a 'normal' state of depression (lost your job, someone dies) this is Uni-polar depression. Often is treated with counselling or just plain "time passing". If it is longer lasting, a mild antidepressant could be ordered.

(a bit of medical info...thought it might help)

Spear

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 12:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The point of the sequestration was the jury doesn't get to see everything that happens (or happened) in the house. If they suddenly have them spying on Jun and Ali, doesn't that defeat the point? Even if they've left the sequester house, I bet they're still cooped up in hotel rooms.

I thought Coffee was trying to report what Ali muttered when Jun was having her breakdown, which was "manic-depressive". Or to be precise, "f**kin' manic-depressive".

Dogdoc

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 03:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sunshyne4u. you said that Ali was the ex brought in? I think that Ali is the original, like Jun, and Justin was brought in.

Appletalk

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 04:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
All I can say is that I am glad I am not related or know either of these two people - if i were I would truly be embarassed for them. I did not like Jun from day 1 now for me it is a toss up which of them should win. Although if I were on the jury and forced to vote I would have to vote for Alison since she manipulated and schemed the best. True these people have been on display and some say they are not the same outside the house - I think that what a person really is deep down shines thru. I see nothing shiny about these two.

P.S. IMHO I think the people on this board are great. I have been on boards that have been truly cruel to other members especially new ones - and I mean all of the time.

Missy2

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 05:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This is what turns me off from the message boards. :(

Llkoolaid

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 05:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Good morning everyone, I went to bed after this thread and now I see the conversation hasn't changed.

Appletalk, we really love to beat a dead horse here but we try to be respectful of each other. On a very few occasions people get offended but it doesn't happen often. Most of us love a good "discussion" but when it gets hot we try to cool things down with a little humour.

I have been on other boards, they can be hostile, and I find it is quite easy to get caught up in the nasty talk on them. When you are nice it really throws them.

Nice to have a new member though and I hope you stick around and enjoy it here.

Chief1

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 06:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Helgapataki, to answer your question, I'm back to check responses, after my lucky break with hurricane Isabel .... WHEW! But YES, I am surprised at the hijinks! lol

I ROFLMAO at some of your responses! Great stuff, and some folks are right by saying we should take this stuff too seriously. (I still think C1mag is full of "C4", and Wendo should stop denying Ali is a relative.)

Some made comments about Danielle and Will, in comparison to Ali. I agree that they said some rude things about others' characters. Whatever set them off, we all KNEW it was about the game and, for the most part, all in fun. I don't believe they made hate comments and/or threats about others. For that reason, I DO think CBS owes its viewers an explanation. This stuff coming out of Jun and Ali's mouth isn't scripted for them, which would give us no room to complain. It's "reality," and it's their choice of words.

Regarding protecting Elena, some suggested it would not be in the best interest of the child for CBS to show ugly threats and nasty words about her and her father. Well, where was CBS' compassion when Julie called out Robert for the nasty names he called the women? (BTW, I don't support Robert's mysoginism, either, and was glad they called him out.) CBS KNEW Elena was watching her dad, and so he will have to face her about these comments when he goes home. If they were BOLD enough to do that, then they should be BOLD enough to share the wealth of other hg's colorful words! I don't want Elena to be hurt, either, but they already opened Pandora's box.

Beruthiel

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 06:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Nice to see that the chatter's thread isn't moribund at all, it just shifts location every night!
Read the whole thread, and can't summon up enough interest to care whether Ali is satan incarnate or just a misunderstood girl.

What I do find fascinating though is the fact that the word 'shit' is permissable, but the word 't*t' will miraculously turn into a row of red dots!
What if I were a bird watcher, and wished to discuss the merits of the great t*t, or the lesser t*t, or any other kind of sweet little bird which never ever did anyone any harm?
This is blatant discrimation against our feathered friends, and must be deplored by any ecologically minded human being!
I also notice that any old four-letter Anglo-Saxon word with the vowel 'u' automatically disappears within a short time.
I protest that, as a Canadian, I need the letter 'u' for spelling purposes, and if four-letter Anglo-Saxon words with the letter 'u' are removed, the spare letter 'u's should be placed at all Canadians' disposal forthwith.
Unless, that is, Ali and Jun have already used them all up.

Seamonkey

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 06:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dogdoc, Ali didn't apply for BB. Her speculation is that one of her other exes applied, but they ended up ditching him but found her interesting enough to cast along with her ex Justin. So she came in with the original bunch, but BB could have just as easily cast Justin and brought Ali in as the ex .. fun to speculate what that might have meant.. Justin would probably have allied with Jack and Nate and Dave..