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Monalisahi

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 10:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I still don't know why Jun and Ali would be upset at being called the same names they have called themselves and every other female in the house.

Missapril

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 11:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually, Robert made his remarks virtually daily. The clips shown on the edited broadcast were only of the one or two times he went off after a competition went badly for him or well for a female. His misogynistic comments were part of all his conversations with the 'dream team' as both justin and jee noted and as robert himself admitted. Jun and Ali deserve a pass - their comments were clearly jokes, while Robert's reflect - BY HIS OWN ADMISSION - his 'problem' with women.

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Gina8642

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 12:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Before the show I really didn't care if Jun & Ali were confronted or not. After the show I was really glad CBS didn't put it in.

Last night's show was so much fun. It showed what's been going on in the house for the last several days. It gave us wonderful insight through the DR segments on what the final three thought they did that made them get to this point. The final HOH comp was hilarious as Jun tried to throw it, yet neither Ali nor Jun could guess how their exes felt about anything. It was all fun and airy.

Contrast that with the tone of this site over the last several days. Complete negativity, extreme interpretations of thoughtless statements. Extrodinary hypocrital judgements of people's character and parenting abilities. Every word from the HGs mouths being taking out of context and blown out of all proportion.

I thuroughly enjoyed the show. It was fun!

Lorry

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 12:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun and Ali continue spewing their filth... calling Robert a "fa*ot"... now why after winning the money do they insist on continuing the bashing??? hmmmmm Must be because they don't feel like winners! Even with the money... they realize all they lost. JMO

Missapril

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 01:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LMAO!

Steveh

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 01:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm typically dense so I was wondering if someone in the thread could tell me where I'm supposed to laugh, where's the punchlines (pardon the expression) in the following emotionally charged jokes?

Jun - "That b***h is never going to see it. Elena's butterfly? I'm sorry that b***h can forget about that f***ing butterfly. I'll tear that s**t apart."

Jun - "His father should have stayed in Cuba. His family is like . . .'No speaky English . . .'"

Jun and Ali - We'll send Robert "back on a boat to Cuba" . . .he's a Cuban f****t."

Jun - "I can't stand that Cuban f**k anymore."

Ali - "I want to put my fist through his face."

Ali - "I vote to evict your sorry, motherf***ing Cuban a** out."

Thanks in advance for your help.

Earthmother

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 06:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It is still hard to hear.....shame, shame, shame....Mom and Dad couldn't possibly have heard that and stood in front of that camera and been proud of their daughter...I would have declined any interview if either of them were mine. Maybe Jun's family did decline..who knows?

Sweetpea1994

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 06:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with you Steveh, I fail to see the humor in those "jokes".

Murph

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hello, I am a first time poster so please allow me some latitude when deciding to bash my remarks. I just have to respond to the idea that Jun and Ali should be given a pass on their remarks because they were joking. I do not for one-second believe that their character assignations, their homophobic, racist, vile language was anything other than an indication of their true personalities.

I base my opinion, for what it is worth, on my own life experiences as an executive of 25 years who has administered, directed, mentored, counseled, evaluated, trained, hired and fired hundreds of people. I also have faithfully watched the live feeds and not based my opinion on reading the updates or summaries.

I have heard the tone and language used by these two females for many hours over the last 6 weeks. I have seen their facial expressions and body language when making their remarks. The ease in which they spew their malicious and horrific language leads me to believe they are not in "character." None of their down right meanness was needed in the game to win.

Fair is fair; every other houseguest was called out on National TV for inappropriate behavior and name calling. What bothers me the most, even more that these two win the money, is that the jury members do not have the opportunity to learn how these two individuals humiliated them before the vote.

They will cast their votes and later find out that they voted for someone who called them a pervert, or a homosexual, or bashed their children, or said their dog was so ugly they would kick it to the curb, etc., etc. The list of insults goes on and on. It only seems fair that the jury could ask them the question I want to know...Why? Why was this humiliation necessary? After all it was only a GAME.

The one thing I have learned this year from BB4 is that when women use the F-word every five seconds it sounds so trashy. I will certainly be watching my language.

Jaynheather

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I also agree with Stevah...IMO, what those girls have done and said in that house is horrendous and is not funny in the least. I'm all for playing the game but there is a line that you just should not cross. Robert said those things out of anger and frustration but what those girls have done is far worse.
I was tired of seeing Robert "called out" on the show about his remarks when Ali and Jun have so much more to be called out on. I would love for Julie to ask them about some of thier statements...not the ones about Elena, tho.
Just my 2 cents

Bondmaiden

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here's an idea. DON"T WATCH!

Earthmother

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
A little harsh Bondmaiden...

I agree that somehow these two need to get there just dues, but on the other hand do I want the child to hear it? I am very torn.

Ruskybiz

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Murph==you have forced this 4th year fan and 3rd year lurker to respond. You are right on! Their comments have been disgusting.

Volgirl

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
YES, JULIE SHOULD CALL THEM OUT ON IT. WE HAVE HAD TO LISTEN THEM!!! I WANT JULIE TO ASK THEM HOW THEY THINK THEIR NAME CALLING, ETC IS LESS VIAL THAN WHAT ROBERT DID. Please, please~Julie do you hear me?

Gina8642

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 09:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe BB should just get rid of all their funny segments. Instead, we will just have 'gotcha' segments, where every person is put to trial for each and everything they ever said that was negative or can be twisted in such a way to be perceived as negative. They can just wallow in negativity and accusations for a full hour, three times a week. Boy - that would surely be a highly rated blockbuster. LOL

For anyone who can't figure this out - it is called dead pan humor. I know many here fail to see any humor in BB at all - but just try for a minute or two, every once in a while. This is supposed to be entertainment.

Wendo

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 09:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
HAhahahahahahahahaha Gina! You had me rolling with this one.


Or, maybe they should just fill the house with Priests and Nuns. That way, no bad things will EVER be said again. And we can feel all warm and fuzzy inside; never having to be offended again. Ahhhhhh. *birds chirping as a sunset ocurrs in the west*

Woodpecke®

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 10:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I love birds chirping.

C1mag

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 10:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And if they don't behave have a day where they all get the cane!! :)

Derby

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 10:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wonder if Jun and Ali would even remember the remarks they said. There was so much bashing going on, they couldn't possibly keep track of everything they've said.

Wendo, I think you've finally got the answer for BB5, Priests and Nuns, LOL...........but I'm sure it would be polite backstabbing!!

Wendo

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 10:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hahaha! Derby! Polite backstabbing. Is there such a thing?

The cane! No! Not the cane C1mag.

They could go with monks who've taken a vow of silence. That'd solve the problem of offensive comments right there. Or hey, people liked the mime. How about a houseful of mimes? LOL!

Derby

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 10:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Give me a house full of Ali's........that girl has been game on since she entered the house!

I say all girls next year. Females always get along so well together! If you don't believe me just watch the Survivor rerun this Sunday!

Wendo

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 10:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Survivor is being rerun this weekend!? Cool. Thanks for the heads up.

Oh good golly. If we have a full house of Ali's, everyone would vacate the board in droves. Who would we talk to? LOL!

C1mag

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 10:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nuns work for me but lets crank it up a notch. How about hot looking Lesbian Nuns? hahahaha! ( ok I'm having fun here tonight)

"Sister I have sinned against your pearly white soul. May God forgive me .. ba hoo.. ba hoo. but I had a vision and the virgin Mary told me to evict your bead praying booty" :)

Derby

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 10:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Don't give up C1, the girls are horny and did watch a sexy movie tonight.........let the ratings soar!!!

Wendo

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 10:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
HAHAHAHAA! Lesbian Nuns, most excellent. Then you have to throw in one Eunich. Just for the irony.