Maris | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 07:13 am     I am up at 6:00 every day Goddess now that I am not staying up to watch the feeds. That is the upside of a boring big brother. Already have my banana bread in the oven, dogs walked, cat fed, and breakfast served. lol. I still think that Big Brother wants a pair of exes in the final two and that is one thing working for Erika. I say Jun goes. |
Fan3 | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 07:22 am     I think their has to be anew twist last week Julie said the final show will be the 24th. so what are they going to do with that last week? I wanted Erica to win but me thinks she is gone.... and the sad thing she never knew she was going to be stabed in the back by the other two. |
Earthmother | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 07:36 am     Obviously this veto is different. We don't know what the difference is and perhaps they don't either. I really don't like that there was a veto at all this week because it really gives the HOH no power and I hate to see that because it only ensures that in future seasons we will see more hgs throw the HOH comp., and personally I'm sick of watching them throw it. I'd like this veto to give Robert a vote as well and if Ali votes to evict Erika and Robett votes to evict Jun the jury breaks the tie. |
Angelsluv | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 07:44 am     Gads Maris, I'm lucky if I do all that you've done this morning in a full day *LOL* |
Whit4you | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 08:07 am     Maaaaaaybe this POV allows her immunity AND to take someone else off the block.. so in other words - only one nominee...? |
Donut | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 08:15 am     Someone here said that those without integrity don't get respect. Unfortunately it seems to be the opposite in these shows..ala Richard Hatch, Vacepia, Jenna, Ali... and Ethan, the one with the MOST integrity brought the lowest ratings.. and Ali COULD win, just like Jenna. Somehow the networks brainwash contestants into thinking that the strongest player is the sneakiest player and should be voted for.. If they got Christie to vote for Jenna, then even Dana could vote for Ali... Well i dont think i even want to watch the rest of the season....as i have said everytime the last person with integrity leaves a show... btw, i dont think the game ending on the 24th means a twist, cuz doesnt it mean 3 in the house til the 17th and then 2 in the house til the 24th, just like last year?? Will Ali pull an obnoxious confessional like Dani did? Have we given up all hope of a redo cuz of the tech error? any word on this? |
Gina8642 | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 08:23 am     There won't be a redo - if there was, it would have been done last night. Sounds like things 'lit up' and glowed. That would require a night shoot. It wouldn't make sense for them to wait an entire day if they wanted to do it over. |
Lovedana | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 08:32 am     Oh no! Alison won the POV? Well, I just had an idea for what the Diamond POV might be. It might mean that Alison can veto herself but Robert makes the final decision on who gets evicted. Gold is more valuable than diamond, isn't it? So I suspect that's probably what would happen. I also hope that's what happens because Erika is gone if that doesn't happen. |
Myjohnhenry | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 08:33 am     Since AS had said previously that they weren't going to do a "platinum" veto because it took the power away from HOH (and yes I know he isn't always truthful) I hope that there is still a twist involved here....like the HOH gets to vote or gets THE vote. Now if HOH gets to vote in addition to the POV holder then we have a tie...which is where the sequester house comes in. If HOH gets THE vote..... |
Bracken | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 08:35 am     This looks bad for Erika, I'm afraid. I agree with you Donut on the Ethan win, but I think that the location of his Survivor really hurt the ratings that season. It just wasn't visually stimulating enough and they were confined to their campsites most of the time. I think the new name for this veto as "diamond" is just another name for it. I believe that it was renamed only because of the timing of this particular veto in the game. If it is used by a nominee, they essentially have the power to name their replacement by default since there is only one houseguest left to be the replacement nominee. I'm hoping I'm wrong and that Erika still has a chance, but then you never know with the "expect the unexpected" line BB continues to throw around, lol. |
Lovedana | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 08:39 am     Another idea is, maybe Diamond Veto is just another name for 'Alison won't be able to use the POV to save herself'. Maybe she can only save the other party? I know BB has been fond of giving new names to old ideas. If that's the case, I'm afraid Alison would still survive and make it to next week. |
Kmjm | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 08:44 am     It's not so much Alison winning that gets me- it's the possibility that Robert might make it to the finals. It's just too much for me that a creep like him could win. I'm going to try to stay away from BB now, I'm way too emotionally involved, this really upsets me! |
Gina8642 | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 09:59 am     I think the fact the Ali won veto reduces the possibility of Robert going to the finals. The way I saw it before, was if Ali left on Wednedsay, then -If Robert won HOH - he'd take Erika -If Erika won HOH - she'd take Robert wutg small possibility of taking Jun -If Jun won HOH - she'd take Robert Making nearly a 100% chance of Robert getting $$$ Now that Ali has won POV there is a better chance. Now: -If Ali wins HOH - she may take Jun or Robert - hard to be sure, but Robert just betrayed her by trying so hard to get her out -If Jun wins HOH - she may take Ali Just because she's badmouthing Ali doesn't mean anything. She promised Ali that she'd be doing that. Doesn't tell us anything -If Robert wins HOH - he'll take Jun I really, really, really don't want Robert to end 'in the money'. Personally I'd rather see Ali take 50k than Robert. Her most disliked actions have been part of the game. His misogynist views weren't for the game. I'd rather see Ali pay for her college bills than see Robert buy another Rolex. |
Justshirley | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 10:13 am     Donut -- regarding a "do over" of the Veto competition, I don't think that's going to happen. Right before they went to the LONG final FOTH last night, Jun, Erika and Robert were in the BY and Jun said that BB told her that they had reviewed the tape and that there was no way she would have had time to remove her incorrect answer and replace it with the correct one before Ali finished, so the fact that she stopped trying when her "winner" light lit up really had no bearing on the outcome. It seemed like they all found BB's explanation reasonable. |
Charvie | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 10:18 am     Jun said in the DR last night that her goal is to be in the F2 with Robert. |
Gina8642 | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 10:25 am     She did? I missed that. Bummer... |
Meggieprice | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 10:37 am     As I mentioned last night before I went somewhat sadly to bed- since Ali made it pretty clear last night that she will evict Erika in the way she spoke to Jun in the back yard, I don't know why she has to keep lying to Erika. Tell her now so she can relax, experience her last few days, and perhaps even come around to giving Ali her vote. (Not that I want that.) Continue to promise and vow and keep hope alive and then shock her on live TV and I would say Erika is a definite lost vote, and the jury house will hear all about it. It is also the compassionate thing to do but I haven't seen much of that in Ali,lol! |
Gina8642 | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 10:51 am     Ali has never been very good at facing up to the truth. I think that is why she is so much trouble with the others. Early on, it helped her 'floater' status. No one could tell which side she was on, so no one felt betrayed, except, possibly the one evicted, and that person no longer mattered to Ali. Now, she is only hurting herself more by playing both Jun and Erika. But maybe the both expect it sooo much neither will be surprised anyway? Not sure. Ya know - she could even just say 'I'm not sure yet, maybe you should both pack. I'm trying to win this game, and I don't know which decision is better yet.' Better then telling them they are both staying. |
Charvie | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 10:54 am     "Diamond veto will only be for the final vote each season." Does anyone know what this means? I interpret it as if you make it to the F3 with the Veto you can't be voted out and gaurenteed a spot in the F2. The housguests discussed it last night and are assuming it is for the final four. But the F3 is the last vote of the season in the house. |
Kalekona | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 11:04 am     i'm hoping they meant the final nomination vote.. but with robert repeating ali is in the f2 i think that is a very real possibility. |
Meggieprice | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 11:04 am     Right Gina- at least quit what she has been doing-the constant passionate vows. She can stop now. Gain some respect from both of them. |
Meggieprice | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 11:11 am     Kale- I think Robert thinks Ali is so strong she will win final HOH. That was one of the main reasons he wanted her out aside from his feelings about her. (Wow- they will only amplify after she shafts Erika, lol!) Kale- at this point I am thinking I am hoping for a Robert/Jun F2- shocker, eh? Subject to change... Say what we will about Robert he has been the most loyal to his alliances. I have no doubt he would have taken Erika to F2 once he said he would. |
Charvie | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 11:18 am     I interpret the statement as this. ONLY to be used in the final vote of the season which is in the F3. Doesn't gaurentee Alison will make it to the F3 only that if Erika doesn't vote her out when she gets to the F3 she can't be voted out. Which means, everything remains the same in the F4, Erika still has the deciding vote. For Alison to stay she needs to make a deal with Erika to keep Erika's vote and not the other way around. |
Grannyg | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 11:24 am     But if that is the case, then whoever holds the POV would always be voted out at the F4 just so that they would never make it to the F2. And that would mean Ali DOESN'T have immunity at all and could be booted. Of course next year if whoever won POV had a deal with HOH then it would be the 2 of them as F2. This still doesn't make sense I don't care how you try to figure it. |
Bmh | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 11:27 am     Alison has already confirmed that everybody has to pack except for herself basically cuz I think its obvious to everyone that she is gonna use the Diamond POV on herself. I think she said she told the DR she isn't gonna pack...Which means she CAN and WILL use the POV on herself. |