BB House vs TVClubhouse?
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Boberg | Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 01:44 pm     We BB fanatics tend (IMHO) to act/post the same way the HG tend to play the game: In the beginning..it is calmest, getting to know the HG with polite opinions, comments, and chat threads. (Inside the BBhouse..they get to know each other and the talk for the most part is friendly as they start to feel each other out) Towards the middle of the game..we here are more focused with our favorites picked out and we chat and root for them telling others here why our favorites are the best choices and reveal our opinions of why other houseguests should be evicted, the sooner the better- strong viewpoints are beginning to come forth on the threads. (Inside the house...they have made alliances and work in groups to evict those they are alligned against, the talk and backstabbing has begun but definitely has room to fall lower at this point) By the end, last 2-3wks..we here are bickering about who of the HG left are the least evil. Some forget the rules and go for the jugular againstanother poster. The moderators are kept busy cleanin up the threads (some even have to be closed for awhile to calm things down) because the posting has become so vicious. We are focused and intent in our posting to proof our viewpoints are the right ones to have and many threads started are all about the same subject. (Inside the house..the 2-3 remaining HG are vicious and vile in their talk..it is constant bad mouthing even when there is no game reason for it. No one can see their own misdeeds, only those of others and they are vicious in repeating their hatred of those that have been evicted. With their talk they convince themselves they deserve to be the winner.) I see alot of similiarity in the two "houses," anyone else? Are we capable of introspection and self evaluation? |
Niceguy | Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 01:46 pm     That is a pretty good observation about how the season evolves around here. |
Bastable | Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 01:48 pm     Very funny, Boberg... we must be a very impressionable bunch! |
Ezgoing | Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 01:56 pm     Boberg, I wondered about a correlation myself in another thread. There does seem to be a connection and it reoccurs with each season, so would seem to be unrelated to any particular BB hg group. From the "Elena was there...fair or unfair?" thread from Friday, September 19, 2003 - 7:47am --------------------------------------- Sex. Religion. Politics. Big Brother! Some topics are just BOUND to create controversy, and it should be expected. As posters, we have all agreed to abide by the rules, but if/when we purposely OR inadvertently cross lines, our moderators are here to keep things on track. There seems to be a connection between what's going on in the BB house and the emotional fervor here on the board...when our pet hamsters are getting edgy and tense, sensitivities and passions are more evident in many posts, in my opinion (anyone ever track the number of moderated posts relevant to BB activity? Just curious.) No matter what one poster writes, it's likely there will be others who heartily agree, and just as heartily, disagree . We learn from each other, we help each other, we gripe with each other, and we share our enjoyment or aggravation of this TV show along the way. Even with the predictable and expected periods of 'heightened sensitivities', TVCH is still THE place to come and post if you are a fan of BB. Thanks to ALL the posters here. You always give me something to laugh about, fume about, think about, or care about. Not too shabby a return for sharing views on a little TV show, huh?! |
Ric_Munoz | Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 01:56 pm     If we're NOT (capable of introspection and self-evaluation) then we're in a LOT of trouble!  |
Bondmaiden | Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 03:06 pm     I wish we could all be introspective. Unfortunatly. I don't think this is true at all. Every year as the season progresses the posters assume an extreme holier than thou attitude that just sickens me. The truth is, they don't know how they would behave in that house. The game was not set up at all for the nicest house guest to win. It is edgy and sometimes cruel. It's suppose to be. |
Monalisahi | Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 03:38 pm     I haven't seen anybody "assume an extreme holier than thou attitude." Each person has different degrees of what they consider to be acceptable behavior. Just because somebody doesn't go around verbally attacking little girls or calling women names, etc. doesn't mean they are "holier than thou." Actually, I think that would be the norm, but that's just my opinion. In your post, you admittedly say that the attitude of some posters sickens you. How is that any different from what you are criticizing? Bond, I seriously mean no disrespect, I'm just curious. Doesn't introspective means examining your thoughts and feelings? I believe that's exactly what's been done here. |
Onlyhuman | Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 03:49 pm     You know, I can see Bondmaiden's point, because sometimes I feel when people are telling me that I'm taking this too seriously, that It's Just A Game, that they are taking a holier than thou attitude because I don't have the same disconnect or view of this that they do. I like to use the BB experience (and I consider it an experience, not a game) as an opportunity to learn about my own behavioral patterns as well as those of others around me. I don't need people telling me how I should interpret what I see. I don't need the sighs and the dead horse comments when I am posting my thoughts for the first time on a subject. SO, yeah, I can see where the "holier than thou" attitude gets a little tired. I also know that when I tried to defend Dana this year, I got hammered over and over again, sometimes in very personal ways. The one thing that makes BB different from all other reality shows is that it's not just the contestants that live it 24/7, we internet watchers tend to do the same. So we need to cut each other some slack and remember that we're all in this together! |
Gidget | Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 04:01 pm     Nice post Boberg. Very good analogy. I find I hardly have anything to say at the beginning of the season. As we get to "know" the HG better and the microscope is more intense on less subjects, my interest definitely goes up. It's hard not to take slams personally. But by and large I would say the majority of the posters make a concerted effort to keep themselves in check. It is a handful who cross the line regularly and maliciously. And sometimes I think even some of them simply do not know how they are coming off even if they are repeatedly admonished. I wouldn't care less about BB if I didn't have this group to discuss it with. And I emphasize this group. What little I have seen of other boards, there is a lack of intellectualism on most of them. |
Nexell2 | Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 04:11 pm     As long as there is little understanding of what the producers had in mind for this show and still have in mind for this show this duscussion will continue. I think some of the problem lies in the fact that many people confuse BB1 with the show as it is today. When Arni took over BB2 he wanted a much differant type of show and a much differant type of house guest. My feeling is that some people are still attached to the BB1 show. That is not, nor will it ever be Big Brother again, I'm sorry for those BB1 fans. Fact is fact. |
Boberg | Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 07:45 am     Ric_Munoz...we may be in a lot of trouble! Wendo said:"To clarify, many people don't have the capacity for true introspection." (noted on the "Such lovely women left in the house (not) thread, on Tues. Sept.16th 07:05 pm. I was so hoping that Wendo was wrong. |
Donut | Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 09:59 am     hmmm, i don't recall sleeping with all you posters to get you to do what i want...nor will I be earning lots of money for doing it... So I guess life in the tvch house wasnt the same as life in the BB house for me.... |
Donut | Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 10:07 am     on a more serious note tho, I know that when people know that they will be separated (moving away, going away for a job or school etc) there is a natural tendency to fight and bicker to push the person away so you don't have to deal with the pain of missing them so much.. so maybe we just all adore each other so much, that as the end of BB draws near, we push each other away to make the goodbye to BB season less difficult.. (gee, aren't I the little pollyanna today..) |
Boberg | Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 10:14 am     Yeh but Donut you didn't make it to the top...so maybe if you had just slept around more, huh?...LOL |
Angelsluv | Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 10:49 am     ^5 Onlyhuman |
Gidget | Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 10:56 am     Who forgot to tell Donut about the orgy we had. Sorry Donut, we will be sure to invite you next year. |
Angelsluv | Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 11:01 am     How many BB4 HG's does it take to change a lightbulb? Just one but they are too busy b*tching to change it. |
Wendo | Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 11:04 am     You know, I'm really not fond of people bringing quotes of mine from one thread into another. Because the context of the post gets lost and it was posted in another thread which means another topic. Pulling a one line quote from a post that was the third or fourth I posted in a (totally different) discussion isn't a fair representation of what I believe. It gives the impression that I don't think people are capable of introspection at all. Which is not what I mean in that quote (but one would know that if the quote was in the proper place.) I think people ARE capable of introspection. The ability to evaluate a situation or event and change something in themselves. But true introspection I think is rarer. The ability to look at ones self on a whole and change ones self entirely. Because they may have racist ideas, outdated notions, and the like. Many people drift through their lives, reacting to it. Living their lives everyday, paying bills, etc. Others, don't drift. They take their life in their hands and make things happen. They see their life in total. So that's how I feel about introspection. A one line quote from another thread topic does not represent what I think. |
Boberg | Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 11:29 am     Wendo are you saying the quote doesn't mean exactly what you said.."To clarify, many people don't have the capacity for true introspection." I gave the exact place where it can be found..so others can decide if it is out of context or not. |
Gidget | Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 11:30 am     Angelsluv, just when I thought there would never be a new lightbulb joke. LOL |
Angelsluv | Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 11:41 am     *LOL* Gidget, I couldn't resist *LOL* |
Wendo | Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 12:19 pm     Boberg, my post above states what I feel. As I said, I think there are different levels of introspection. |
Calgaryperson | Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 08:14 pm     But we're here in the "house" all the time. They rotate every summer for 3 months. |
Lurknomore | Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 09:38 pm     Where's my half mil for surviving some of the folks here?? |
Boberg | Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 10:12 pm     Lurknomore..as in the BB House..most of us are going home now only richer in that we met and "played" with great people here who enriched our lives to some extent on this board.(in this TVClubhouse) Now if we want to..we can all vote on who the winners are here...I know I'm a winner because I came here to TVClubhouse and got so much in return. Enjoyment and lively debate to mention a few. |
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