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Bohawkins

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 11:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah.. Smokey. To me, as well, a pinata is nothing more than a party toy. I attended an adult (meaning no kids) party one time where they put silver dollars in several and everyone scrambled after them as they spilled. It was lots of fun. There were Hispanics in attendence and no one was offended.

I was merely reporting Robert's apparent reaction to it and his blatant refusal to decorate it. He was angry about it. His action of simply putting the smiley face on it after having been called to the diary room like a bad child, indicated further that he may have had some concerns about it. I think my guess was correct.

But, it's not a concern of mine. I think there is too much emphasis on political correctness. Like I said, I'm not even offended by ubiquitous leprechauns and green beer.

Gina8642

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 12:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Since when are pinyatas offensive? I've never heard that one - not even once in my life. I've been to several parties where one was used - fun was had by all. I've also made them numerous times in art class, girl scouts, etc.

Pinyatas are fun. Nothing more nothing less.

I think Robert is just at the end of his rope. I don't think he can stand spending time in girls company. I think he get absolutly annoyed and ticked by every word and gesture Ali and Jun make. Arts & Crafts time was just one more case of being forced to share their company.

Personally, I just wish he'd walk.

Gina8642

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 12:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun just went to DR - I was only listening, not watching. But - I could totally hear the DR person for several sentances. LOL. They were talking about locking the HOH room up.

I've seen them in the DR before, but I've never been able to pick up what the DR person was saying so clearly (if at all) before.

Jpgramma

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 12:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Looks like tonight's HOH comp will consist of the 3 competing HOH's sitting in front of the plasma screen, with a TV beneath it. There will be barrier walls between the HGs. There was a report of seeing the stand ins holding up answer paddles. I've posted about this in the HOH comp thread (even though it doesn't look like it will have anything to do with a roulette wheeel). In that post I provided a link to a jokers screencap that shows the stand ins.

Seamonkey

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 12:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Not sure why Rob, as a Cuban, would have strong feelings about the project...

The Origin of the Pinata..

History

The origin of the Pinata is Chinese not Hispanic. It was used to celebrate the coming of spring. As a result of Marco Polo's adventures into China, he introduced this Chinese custom which was adopted by the Spanish as well as by the French and Italians. The Spanish brought this custom to the new world when they conquered Mexico. The pinata became part of the Posada in the Catholic culture.

Symbols

The original & traditional pinata has seven points symbolizing the seven deadly sins: envy, sloth, gluttony, greed, lust, anger/wrath, and pride. The ten pointed pinata symbolizes the sins that come from breaking the ten commandments.

The stick which is used to break the pinata represents and symbolizes love. It is suppose to destroy the sins by hitting and breaking the pinata into pieces. The candies and treats that come pouring out from the broken pinata symbolize the forgiveness of sins and a new beginning. Originally, the pinatas were filled with candies, apples, pears, fruits, wrapped in paper. The candies were called colacions which were a flour based, cooked candy with a seed in the middle such as from cilantro, anise, or mustard. Nowadays pinatas are filled with various types of candies not just from Mexico, but from the U.S.

Pinatas are made from various types of materials. Some are made of clay jar, paper, ribbons, paper mache, balloons, reeds, and carisso.

Before attempting to hit the pinata, the person must cover his eyes, symbolically to protect himself from being enticed by the pinata. After hitting the pinata, the person must make a resolution or resolutions. Resolutions can include:

doing good deeds
become a better person
be kinder
be more patient
get along with others


Some of the colors that are used to decorate pinatas are bright--red, white, and green. This color symbolizes the Mexican flag colors.

Ethnic representation---pink, green,white with pink being unusual and different.

Prisonerno6

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 12:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Regarding the pinata:

"He was angry about it."

No, he was angry before the pinata incident. He didn't eat with the others. He's still out back pouting and not talking to anyone. There is no evidence that his anger is due to the pinata.

Seamonkey

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 12:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks, Prisoner

Cricket

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 12:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hmm, Jpgramma, thanks for the info. If tonight's HOH is a question type, we can safely assume Robert will not get HOH, unless like Jun said, the answers are all "si" and "no." ROFL! I'd like to see Erika win it, but it will probably be Ali.

Jun said she will be the first to get her ex out and if Erika wins tonight, she would be the second. You go Girls!

Cliotheleo

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 01:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And Robert's promising right now if he DOES win HOH he'll be "the biggest pr*ck in the world."

Oooooh boy! Can't wait for that (ha!)

Prisonerno6

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 01:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My pleasure, Sea. :)

(He's having a great convo with Jee right now...he is clearly angry at Ali.)

Smokey

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 01:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Prisoner said: "Regarding the pinata:

"No, he was angry before the pinata incident. He didn't eat with the others. He's still out back pouting and not talking to anyone. There is no evidence that his anger is due to the pinata."

Thanks, Prisoner. That's what point I was trying to make, but didn't do a very good job of it.

Rob was pissed before he knew anything at all about the pinatas. He was just fed up with the girls in the house and he said he wants out and hates it in there, hence was eating by himself outside.

Prisonerno6

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 01:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You're welcome, Smokey.

Robert's been irritable since Jack was evicted instead of Erika. He's had few moments of pleasurable behavior interspersed with hours of anger and disappointment.

And a stupid pinata ain't the reason.

Cameltoes

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 02:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Do you hear BB talking to them right now? He announced that the winner of this HOH can compete next week as we know but also that there will be a Golden POV this week, unlike last year. I guess it is basically immunity.

Smokey

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 02:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
yes, I hear it! I had the feeds on and was in the other room and couldn't figure out who's voice I was hearing. Weird, they must not realize that the feeds are picking them up.

Cameltoes

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 02:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He also just said that the POV this week will be AFTER nominations.

Smokey

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 02:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He just said "this week's veto will be after nominations" "Hey Alison, did you hear that?"

I am only hearing one side of this convo--the BB side of it and not hearing the responses from the houseguests.

Dutchlizzy

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 03:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Live feeds has a capture of someone walking OUT of the front door about 10 minutes ago.

Cliotheleo

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 03:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, I saw that. I think that was either just a crew member or someone playing the part of the evicted HG during the rehearsal. Does this not happen every week? It didn't look like any of the HGs to me.

Bastable

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 03:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, it happens before every eviction. They have to get the front door ready for a HG to pass through it. Normally, the cameras are zooming through that passageway.

Dan

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 03:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Robert was simply pissed because he had to decorate his pinata. He probably think that this was a childish activity not fit for an adult man like him. Hum. Hum.

Seamonkey

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 03:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Robert was prone to feeling pissed long before he arrived at the BB house.

Toolhound

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 03:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Anyone know how the Veto would work this week with only 4 people. With an HOH and 2 nominees if the other person wins the veto and uses it there will not be anyone left to put up.

Gouraphik

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 03:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That's what I'm wondering too, Toolhound. Maybe BB's just assuming that if the non-nominated HG wins it, they'll just elect to not use it. I dunno.

Naja

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 03:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, they just wouldn't need to use it since they have the choice of who leaves anyway. It's not like they have to save someone. They already have the power with their sole vote who will be leaving and staying.

Texasdeb

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 03:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Veto is kind of strange for this wk unless there is some kind of twist attached to it. I've been racking my brain trying to figure out all the dif. scenerios that could happen. I kind of like that the "other" house has had an ongoing comp. (kind of HOH like) & the Veto holder can bring this unknown winner back in - I just don't know how it would/could play into what's going on now. Any of the remaining HGs would be stupid to want someone back that they've already gotten out.