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Mrose4243

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 07:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm shocked about the DR being shown as well. Although it was my understanding that the DR segments were shown AFTER the vote. This does take away the lifeblood of the show, as you state, Bastable. Obviously the only purpose of that was to have hurt feelings shown on live TV
a la Jerry Springer. I think the producers were expecting a brawl...what they got was worse, silence, awkwardness, no sense of joy and excitement from the 'winners', the other participants, or ME!

I still hold out hope for next year, though!

Bastable

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 07:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
...and don't forget there was a commercial break before they voted. That was, like, three minutes during which the jury could have been saying congrats to both of them.

Wendo

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 07:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bastable, they said they were disappointed while revealing the votes. For instance. I'm sure Dana wasn't disappointed in Jun before she voted. But, when pulling the key for her to win, said she was after the viewing of the tapes.

Ark

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 07:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This is the first year that picked the winner from the very beginning. Congratulations Jun! This years game seemed particularly nasty on the part of most of the players. The longer they stayed, the nastier they seemed to get. But I liked Jun from the beginning and I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt by believing that she is not the same outside the house as she was inside.

Oh, and I love the Mime.

Cliotheleo

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 07:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, sorry if I've missed this but did anyone else notice Dave congratulating Jun (that was the word he used "congratulations") when he walked into the house BEFORE the votes were revealed?

Now obviously he was probably just congratulating her for being in the finals, but who knows .......... do you think he knew the results of the vote before it was revealed? Hmmmmmm........

Now, as to DOnny not being there. I've never worried for his and Ali's' relationship, I think they'll be fine. The fact that he wasn't there isn't a big surprise. He plays college football and if his school is as strict as they were when I was in under-grad, they don't let those guys take a pee without persmission, much less fly across the country during the season. I would also imagine that the coach wasn't too keen on the publicity Donny was getting (negative) so the fact that he wasn't there doesn't concern me at all.

Donut

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 07:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
good point.. but unless they blatantly lied, they did say they would see the tapes after...
I think they just felt they had to add comments abut the tapes when they voted. It was a blur to them.. THEY cant even keep straight if they saw the tapes before or after!

Sbw

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 07:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought Nate's statement when he voted for Ali was that he regretted his vote now.... after watching the tapes.

Meggieprice

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 07:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bastable- they voted right after the question session and then were shown the tapes. I think it was wrong to have them watch them and then confront each other- cheap ploy for ratings.

Yay Jun!

I would say the reported negative feelings in the air represented the same things that had many of the posters here upset with these women. It was just a game, they played their way to the final two, but...uck, they had to face everyone they roasted and betrayed to get there.

Gidget

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 07:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"Young love", for me the glass is always half full.

Cliotheleo

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 07:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wonder if the evictees saw the feeds before the show started? Remember Ali saying how she (and Jun agreed) didn't even want to see anyone because shew as going to put on her fake smile again? Maybe the evictees saw that and that dampened an already bad mood?

Csnog

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 07:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The jury wore different clothes several times they were on the show.

There was the meeting of Robert and the roundtable discussion. The questions and the vote.

Then they showed each HG watching the tapes alone.

Then there was another round table discussion after seeing the tapes.

The last showing of the HG's was for the live show.

Neko

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 07:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
*Neko runs into Clio's house to jump out of Clio's window as well, seeing Neko wanted Dave to win just as much, but cat's always land on their feet.*

Damnit. I missed the mime.

Delrok

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 07:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I would have pulled a Jack, guaranteed. In fact, since I have learned the lesson of bad mouthing people in my youth, I know I wouldn't have done anything that many of these folks did. It might be a bit of a sore loser, but I don't remember hearing anyone say these two girls didn't deserve the money. Just that they didn't want them to win.

All I am saying is I am glad others didn't reserve themselves.

Yes, good way to think about it... 8 months!! This season renewed my enjoyment of the show.

It was great reading your posts folks.

Donut

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 07:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
bastable, sorry i forgot to direct my answer to you, and it came out many posts after your question...

Did anyone else have a surrealistic experience trying to get into this site tonite? Is everyone here or are some still not able to get on?

How many still have the FOTH music on now??

Seamonkey

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 07:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks, Wendo.. I just think that people who want to be actors/performers HAVE to be able to handle disappointments well.. and just from the pictures, haven't seen the show, but it looked like Ali managed to smile in true pageant form, even for second place and no Donny and seems like especially Robert (dealing with restaurant crowds and supposedly had bit parts) and Erika (actress wannabe and bartender who also has to deal with people) would have been able to smile more..

Mlt.. I think you hit it spot on.. just too raw for most of them this time .. Now Michelle had ample time to get over it and see the shows but she's not exactly mature, even for her age, and really didn't belong on this show. Dave and Amanda had more time as well.

Too bad.. I liked the first season BECAUSE most were happy for the winners.

But, I am mature, lol, and I'm happy for the winners.

And I lovelovelove our wonderful spoilers and love the pictures too!! Great thread hamsterlady.

Sbw

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 07:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I actually liked the final show. I thought it was the best show all season. We actually saw some true reactions. I also think from what Jun said to Julie, the voters got to her with their speeches and she really wondered if it was worth it, I guess Jee was really the one that was blunt about it. But then I loved the mime at the end too.

Cliotheleo

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 07:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL! I'm gonna leave my window open for anyone who wants to jump out of it over Dave's surprising defeat tonight. :)

I demand a recount!!!!

Can we have Jun recalled like Grey Davis? Somebody call the Supreme Court!!!

Seamonkey

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 07:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hmm a quick further insight.. perhaps part of the vitriol was some of them projecting their own embarrassment after having the others see some of what THEY said.. onto Ali and Jun?? hmm

Csnog

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 07:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lets have Dave be the next Bachelor.

Katlady53

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 07:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm glad Jun beat Ali. Of the two girls, the HGs bitterness seemed to bother and sink in with Jun the most. Ali still didn't get it in the end, but that's no surprise.

Loved the mime!

Smokey

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 07:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What was the "monster" comment that Justin made? I must have blocked that out.

Seamonkey

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 07:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Heee.. I can see Dave's rose ceremony.. he'd sneak up on the girl, scare the shit out of her and then offer her the rose :)

Cliotheleo

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 07:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cs ...... Dave as the next Bachelor .......... that's a thought!!!

You know, I really was hoping that if Dave didn't win, at least someone who he's made out with would. I had a 3 in 11 chance of that happening, but no such luck. :(

Neko

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 07:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What was with Michelle's "I can't consider you my friend." thigie??
It's not like Dave had sex with HER on National tv.
He's a big boy, he made his own choice..

I just found that hilarious.

Donut

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 07:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
$h&t! i jinxed it! just as I mentioned FOTH, it ended! boo hoo!