Jack: 'mature' or 'foolish' ?
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Steveh

Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 04:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As a member of his peer group (he's a little older), I'd say he was some of both and the most HUMAN player in the house. He was out of his element, but took a good shot at it. He was fine last night, as real as anyone else on the show.

His talk about Erica and Michelle is pretty typical for a fifty-something guy. I could see where many could find it mildly objectionable but it's quite a quantum leap from there to pervert, molester, etc.

Also, who said he was a "representative" of the F.B.I.? I don't think so.

Woodpecke®

Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 04:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm 44 and obviously don't act my age, but I find nothing appealing about 19 year old girls. Whenever I'm at the beach and find one staring at my package, I always walk away from them as fast as I can. Girls can be such perverts. Ha!

Csnog

Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 05:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ohhhhhh Wood, I would look! I still do at my age so I guess I'm a perverted old lady. LOL

Kappy

Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 05:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I would not only call him mature and classy but I would also add that he is happy with himself and his life. Could be why making those comments came easy for him and not some of the others.

Woodpecke®

Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 05:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Great point, Kappy. Well said. He does appear content.

Sherri

Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 06:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Efilon - If I remember correctly, what Jack said was "I vote for Jun because she played a flawless game." To me, it came across as what he has done the whole game, which was analyze in totality what has happened (including his own blunders and mistakes) and state his opinion, from an analytical point of view. Not everyone has different meaning behind their spoken words. Just my observations of Jack throughout the game and last night.

Tempemike

Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 06:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought Jack added a unique element to the game. I congratulate CBS for their inventiveness at adding a 58 year old to that mix. I also think that not only is Jack quirky-cool, but he is the only one there that actually seemed to be enjoying the experience. Most of the others couldn't appreciate it and were whining most of the time. With the mixed demographic that seems to watch the show you'd think they would experiment more with a more varied mix of people on the show.

Bohawkins

Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 07:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
When any female 18 or older is prancing around in purposefully suggestive and revealing clothing presenting themselves as sexual objects (as Michelle and Alison did with the vegetable bikinis) then they are fair game for lustful perusal by anyone. What does a man's age have to do with it?

It is just as acceptable (or unacceptable) for an 60 year old guy to be leering at a female pruriently as it is a 19 year old or a man of any other age. If a woman purposefully makes her body available to be appreciated by men then having some kind of special restrictive standard that kicks in for men of a particular age is unreasonable and illogical.

The concept that women aged 18-30 who display themselves sexually can't be viewed as sexual objects by men older than 40 without the act being a perversion is totally unreasonable and a dangerous precedent to establish as a social convention.

If a woman of any age wishes to be regarded with dignity then she needs to maintain standards of propriety. It should be, of course, understood that leering at any child or at a female who is not dressing or conducting themselves in a provocative way is totally inappropriate.

I have seen this same problem in the work place. Young women were dressing like hookers. They wanted to show their "wares" for all to see, but thought that only guys their age should be able respond to their displays. I solved the problem. I created a new dress code standard for the office which eliminated that duplicity. My office now looks like a nunnery. Males of all ages are no longer tempted. I find that everyone is happier. The women can dress however they wish when they go out for the evening, where some of them foolishly become just another piece of meat on the market with strange men of all ages gawking and making comments. Hopefully experience will be their teacher.

Wendo

Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 07:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack, I think he was mature. The only one on last nights show in fact.

I don't want a houseful of Jacks or a houseful of low class 20 somethings. What I'd like to see is a houseful of people with a wide variety of race, age, and the like with the maturity of Jack. I think we'd see more strategy and less immature behavior.

However, I'm not naive. Casting directors want a cast with immature people because they provide the drama.

But, it would be nice to see a show once with all mature people. Perhaps there would be drama, eh?

Eliz87

Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 08:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, obviously I'm the odd man out here (or the odd woman out, to be more precise) -- but it's certainly not the first time, so that's all right.

I just find it unseemly for a man to be gawking at a woman young enough to be his daughter, whether she's flaunting it or not. At 33, I find no interest in a boy who is 18, so I can't figure out why a man in his 50's would see something in someone who should be a little girl in his eyes. That is all I'm saying about the age thing.

Other than that, though, I thought Jack was cool. I would have enjoyed hearing more conversations about his experiences in the FBI. I'm sure he has many very interesting stories to tell, and I do agree that Jack was very gentlemanly with his apology to Dana.

Monalisahi

Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 08:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wood said: I'm 44 and obviously don't act my age, but I find nothing appealing about 19 year old girls. Whenever I'm at the beach and find one staring at my package, I always walk away from them as fast as I can. Girls can be such perverts. Ha!


Wood!!!!!! If you'd wear some swimming trunks that might not happen!!!!!

But I also have to ask, are they pointing and laughing too? :)

Yoyo

Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 08:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Mona! That would depend on how Wood is packaged! Seriously, Jack's 58 but he's not dead yet! He spent several months living with young girls strutting around in bikinis. How could he NOT look? he never came on to any of them and did not deserve to be called a perv by the two queen b#$chs. Who do they think will be drooling over them when they sell their bodies to Playboy for the inevitable layout? Just Brad Pitt types? :)

Woodpecke®

Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 09:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No, Mona. Gaping and gasping. Ha!