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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Quick! *GASP* We NEEEEEED to know about diamond Veto!!!: Archive through September 08, 2003

Chief1

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 04:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Post your "diamond" veto wishes here! There's one which has been popping up, which I personally hope comes true: If "diamond" veto is used, "diamond" veto-holder may go BACK on the block. (Please let it be so!)

Fabnsab

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 05:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
As far as I thought, the diamond veto just basically meant that the holder holds all the cards. Not only does Ali get to change the nomination but she also is the sole vote for who is evicted. I may be wrong but thats what Ali said the night she won. Heck, I hope I am wrong. I would love a twist.

Chief1

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 05:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
They HAVE to do better than that .... I'd love it if Ali actually thought she had the power, but the twist changes everything for her!

Casey

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 05:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Where did you hear about the "Diamond" Veto? I just got back on this site, so I haven't had time to read everything yet. Was this mentioned to the HG's recently?

Seamonkey

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 05:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ali won the Diamond Veto. I think what makes it Diamond is that whoever won it basically had the choice of who goes (but not sure if that held true had HOH won it..

Stingerman

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 05:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok so it's a "DIAMOND" veto right. Well a good twist might be to offer Ali a 20 thousand dollar Diamond not to use the veto.

Would she fell safe enough having Erica vote for her to stay to keep the diamond? Considering how parinoid this girl is, I highly doubt it but who knows.

Just a crazy thought.

Ryn

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 06:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Silly name - and having it made the HoH pretty much worthless.

Erika will be gone Wednesday - count on it.

Meme9

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 06:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If I could wish...the Diamond veto holder would only be allowed to take herself off the block.

But HOH gets to make the one and only "Vote" since Arnie doesn't want the veto holder to have more power than the HOH(hope he sticks with what he said in that interview).

This would be funny since Ali thinks she has all the power, but she wouldn't.

Justshirley

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 06:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I really do hope there's some additional twist to this "Diamond" designation, and love Meme's idea, but I really do think that it's just what we think it is. It's "Diamond" because, for the first time, PoV holder gets to save themselves AND have the ultimate power of being the only voter. Granted, to us, it's a big "duh," because it's additional power merely by default. But this isn't geared to the viewers like us, who examine every minute nuance of this game. It's geared to the average viewer, who probably won't give it a second thought. But, I'm desperate to find a way to save Erika, so I'll still hold out hope that it's not just another lame-o AS "twist" that isn't really a twist at all. I'm just not holding my breath, is all I'm sayin'.

Crazydog

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 06:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Meme, I think allowing Alison to cast the vote would be giving her more power than the HoH. The one person the HoH wanted to save, Erika, will be evicted if Alison gets to vote. I don't think it makes sense. I think Robert should be the one to cast the vote, and thus he ensures that at least one of his choices is evicted. This is the way it has always worked.

Reader234

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 06:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I like the cash offer to the "diamond veto" holder!! And thanks Meme for thet reminder, but I dont hold out much hope either!! It is a shame that hoh really had no power this last time!! Next hoh is the real power seat...

Llkoolaid

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 07:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am betting that Meme is right on with the prediction. POV should not have more power than hoh. I think this is just the twist that they are going to use. Ali got to save herself but at least the Hoh has some say in who goes. I think this is just the kind of twist that would make the show more interesting and I hope it happens during the live show. No chance for campaigning.
I have my fingers crossed, the show has been too predictable, this is just the thing we need.

Csnog

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 07:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Another wish would be if there could be 3 votes to evict

1 vote. Ali

1 vote. Robert

1 vote. The jury

Jazzzy

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 07:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I was hopeint that th4e diamond veto-meant that she could even nom, Robert. I don't want to see that nose picker anymore.

Justshirley

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 07:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
But, if indeed, it is HoH that casts the vote like Meme suggests, what exactly about this particular PoV earns it the "Diamond" designation? If all Ali gets to do is take herself off the block, it's the same as Golden PoV. By upgrading it to "Diamond" status, the implication is that it's more powerful than the PoV has ever been before. Is it merely because this is the first time that there has even BEEN a veto at this point in the game and that it insures Ali a spot in the Final 3?

I fear that my slim sliver of hope will amount to a big, fat nothing. But that won't keep me from hoping.

Theowl

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 08:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Do the HG know what the "Diamond Veto" is? If they didn't tell them what it is, then maybe AS is reading this board to get ideas!! I hope Ali doesn't get the only vote. IT'S NOT FAIR!!

God I missed this the last 2 days!! Welcome back!!

Justshirley

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 08:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
From every conversation I've heard between the HGs, they are under the same impression we are -- that Ali is the sole voter. Erika and Rob were discussing yesterday what a ripoff being HoH was this week, since he basically had no power to even decide who his nominees were.

Marameko

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 09:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
So glad the board is back. this show may have a faint glimmer of hope. The very idea of Ali having the POV has been discouraging and makes me lose interest in this show. What is it with these people I don't want to to win just happenning to come from Pittsburgh < Jenna/Survivor> ??
I hope Arnie baby does read this board and that we will all holler with joy and great delight as "AWFUL ALI" goes down in defeat, banished to the Jury huse to hang out with her nemesis Dana, who is the long lost love child of Aunt Donna from "The Family".

Chief1

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 09:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Marameko, AS had better do something, because bb is losing viewers left and right over this ALI crap! And by the way, meme, I hope AS sticks to his word, too. No way does HOH have more power than POV this time (even if it was STILL only the golden veto).

Diamond may, however, just mean what justshirley said, "It's 'Diamond' because, for the first time, PoV holder gets to save themselves AND have the ultimate power of being the only voter." If that's all there is to diamond, we all will be upset, but not necessarily surprised, considering how boring this year has been.

Maybe, just MAYBE, AS will give the JURY this vote! *praying*

Cliotheleo

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 09:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm confused, you all want Arnold to just make up the rules as the game goes along based on who you all want to win (or not win, rather>) Yep, that's fair. :)

Pengoh

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 09:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well he seems to make up the rules as he goes along based on who he wants to win so why not? ;)

Meme9

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 09:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I just hope Arnie sticks to his word of not wanting the veto holder to hold more power than the HOH. In my opinion to do other wise is making up the rules as he goes.

Jigglywigglyjun

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 09:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Guys, Hate to be the bad guy here but nothing is going to happen with the Diamond Veto other then Ali taking herself off.... It's safe to say Ali will vote Erika off and that's that...

No special twist, NADA! :)

Kalekona

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 09:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The jury is there to vote for the winner, i don't see them being able to vote of one of the HG too.

I'd like Robert to have the vote and not ali but don't see that happening either.

Battlestarz

Monday, September 08, 2003 - 09:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Clio----he made up the diamond veto on the spur of the moment--until the day of the last HOH contest they were told it was the last POV and then suddenly another POV was added. and I think the reason it was added was so Arnie could manipulate who the final three would be