Rewind: Big Brother Irony
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Wendo | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:47 pm     LOL Bastable! Now they HAVE to choose. Ah the irony. |
Cliotheleo | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 11:18 pm     Wasn't there a "turning point in the game" thread? Now I can't find it. Anyway, this isn't ironic as much as it is telling .......... after watching it again, it's clear to me that the most important moment in the game, the moment where there was the most significant turning point was the Niagra Balls veto competion. By one ball and about one second, Nate beat Justin in that comp. and changed the course of the game. If it weren't for that, Ali might have gone out that week (that was of course when Nate saved her and Dave was evicted instead) and the whole game would have been different. |
Wendo | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 11:28 pm     Yes, there was a Turning Point thread. I believe Tobor started it...I think? Interesting about the Niagra Balls observation Clio. (Sure wish I had them all on tape. But I use TiVo for BB and it's a pain to transfer to tape.) What's funny is, that's the competition everyone hated the most I believe. LOL! |
Cliotheleo | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 11:39 pm     Yep and after the comp Ali is swearing that she's gonna win the next HOH and sink her fangs into Dana's face or something like. ............. hang on, lemme check my feeds ............ yep, Ali's alseep in the love room, in the same bed where she made that annoucement. And for all the talk we make of BB fixing the comps, no WAY could they have fixed that one. Unless Nate was the only male HG who wasn't colorblind. |
Cliotheleo | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 11:51 pm     Ali's plea during the veto cermony as to why she should be saved (by Nate) "Each day in the house people say things and do things that hurt one another. I've said those things and I've done those things and I've felt it more this week than any other. I think I deserve to stay and be given another chance." |
Cliotheleo | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 12:22 am     And on the next eviction night when Julie asked her to expound upon her comment, she said....... "I just felt I deserved a second chance, a chance where people don't lie to me and where we can be honest with one another." |
Cliotheleo | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 01:11 am     whoops ......... I forgot to add in the above post the "eye batting" that Ali did, Suzanne Sugarbaker would have been proud And now I have managed to survive watching Dave being evicted from the show twice......... things got a little tense there for a minute, I even considered jumping out the window and offing myself but I live on the first floor, so that wouldn't really do much harm |
Cliotheleo | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 01:50 am     And now, right after Dave's eviction we get to "Sunday School at the Big Brother House with Nate and Ali" this is when they discover Psalms 64 and begin to draw parallels to their (then) current situation. The great thing about the Bible is that you can use it to apply to any given situation. Think of the things we have been talking about in the past week here on the board and read the same chapter.......... (from the New Living Translation) 2 Protect me from the plots of the wicked, from the scheming of those who do evil. 3 Sharp tongues are the swords they wield; bitter words are the arrows they aim. 4 They shoot from ambush at the innocent, attacking suddenly and fearlessly. 5 They encourage each other to do evil and plan how to set their traps. "Who will ever notice?" they ask. 6 As they plot their crimes, they say, "We have devised the perfect plan!" Yes, the human heart and mind are cunning. 7 But God himself will shoot them down. Suddenly, his arrows will pierce them. 8 Their own words will be turned against them, destroying them. All who see it happening will shake their heads in scorn. 9 Then everyone will stand in awe, proclaiming the mighty acts of God, realizing all the amazing things he does. 10 The godly will rejoice in the LORD and find shelter in him. And those who do what is right will praise him. Again, read into it what you will, I'm not trying to start a religious debate. |
Beruthiel | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 03:20 am     Oh, that's too heavy for me at this time of the morning, Clio, but it did make me think of a quote from the same source: "The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away." And I wish he'd have given us Erika and Dave, and taken away Alison and Robert, but, as we know, "God moves in a mysterious way, his wonders to perform." (the poet Cowper) Furthermore, the Book of Common Prayer version says, from the Psalms, "Up, Lord and let not man have the upper hand," which He didn't, and also, "They do but flatter with their lips, and dissemble in their double heart," which they did, plus, "Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me." which applies to all of the evicted HGs. I could keep going all night....  |
Spunky | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 10:45 am     Is tonight's show a 'rewind' type of show? I could do these with my tapes.. geesh.. |
Cliotheleo | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 10:50 am     Hey, I say let's do it! Skip the show and we'll have a rewind part, do our own editing. |
Spunky | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 10:53 am     They'll start again when the house was full...we'll see Scott again.. and then, remember when Amanda, Michelle and Dave were interviewed (or I don't know what they were doing) in Front of the House the day after their eviction?? What was that all about? Maybe we'll see that tonight.. |
Cliotheleo | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 10:54 am     I think that ended up on Entertainment Tonight. I know the Dave one did. |
Cliotheleo | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 01:01 pm     How's this for irony: the Dream Team's tragic error may have been getting rid of Nate. Before he was put on the block by Justin, Nate tried to make a deal with the "stooges" offering to NOT put them up if he won the next HOH. He told them that Jack and Erika were going after them and they'd be smarter to get rid of the two of them. Of course they declined his offer, put him on the block, he was evicted, Erika won the next HOH and Justin soon followed Nate to the Jury house. Admitedly, there's no way of knowing if Nate would have kept his word, but it's something to think about. |
Spunky | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 01:10 pm     Yes, definitely there was a pattern this year as to the HOH and following evictions, Dana was up and gone next, Justin was up and gone next, Jee was up and was gone next.. |
Cliotheleo | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 01:30 pm     Ali in the DR re: Nate's pouting because Justin put him on the block....... "Maybe the dumbest move he could have made was to save me, that's fine, I don't care. I'm still here." |
Cliotheleo | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 01:57 pm     Another example of how Ali's one of the smartest players in the game .......... in the DR discussing Nate's offer to the dreamteam....... "I wasn't trying to influence Jee and Robert to keep Nathan for my benefit. I believe if Justin didn't nominate him, Nate would keep his word and not nominate Justin." I think that's amazing because the first time she said it I thought it was total BS. In retrospect she was right. |
Cliotheleo | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 02:13 pm     While he was on the block, Nate came up with one of his most intelligent lines of reasoning and told Jun (so that she would go tell the stooges) that the best move they could make (Robert had the veto, Justin was HOH) would be to take Jack off the block and put up Ali in his place. When told of this idea, Robert said, "[Ali] doesn't know what this game is about, she has no f_ing idea about this game. She should not be in this game, she should have no part in voting she should have NO part of this game." (checking the LFs ..........) Yep, Robert's still evicted and Ali's still in the house. |
Cliotheleo | Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 12:01 pm     I think Jack may be the most under-appreciated player in this game. From the very beginning he was able to peg who the strongest players were and who it would be in his side's best interest to eliminate. Unfortunately for them, his allies didn't always listen to him and it led, often directly, to their demise. He lobbied Justin out, Dana and Alison and was often ignored and it came back to bite the butts those who ignored him. Right now I'm on the week of his eviction and at the end, he pressed and pressed Jee to veto him or Erika off and to put Ali up in their place. Jee didn't listen and went home the next week. As I've watched the tapes, it's obvious that Jack was often the ONLY person who REALLY knew what was going on in the house. |
Cliotheleo | Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 12:28 pm     Ali showin in the DR on the eve of Jack's eviction....... "I am like the plague and I am spreading through the house and I'm gonna eliminate both sides." |
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