Archive through September 20, 2003
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Archive through September 20, 2003
Sc00pgrl | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 09:00 am     I have read and reread many post here and still find myself baffled at times. I don't know how I would react stuck in a house for 3 months with complete strangers and no outside contact... the stress of this alone would drive me nutty and probably make me act and say things that I would never ever do out in the real world. And the added stress of competing for a half million dollars, playing games for food, playing games trying to get HOH, wondering if I'm leaving every week, trying to win vetoes, pb&j...etc all the while there is cameras in every corner watching and listening to my every move. I find myself sometimes really quick to judge the hg's as I watch them on the live feeds, but I have to stop myself and wonder if it was me how would I act? What things would I do differently? I know they signed up for this, but over the season and past years I've heard the hg's say this is what they could never imagined it would be like this. Just food for thought... |
Slothkitten | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 10:02 am     Thanks for your post,Sc00pgrl.. The HGs get on my nerves sometimes and I have judged them.. but, for me it's a game,they are people in a cage being watched constantly with all the other stessers you mentioned above..I don't think they realize what the reality of the house is like until they are in it...in a way,I'm surprised people don't show out more than do. I can't imagine what it's like in there....but I DO love to watch them in there..from out here. |
Ketchuplover | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 01:27 pm     If you're playing something for money it's not just a game. |
Cameramanbob | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 01:33 pm     Thanks, ScOOpgrl! For adding a touch of humanity to the board. In past years there was plenty more bemused humour & humanity here at TVCH. This year the Mods needed to hire an Indignation Co-Ordinator just to get through it! Still - these trends have lives of their own and we just have to weather them and wait for nicer days. Good of you to post. - CMB |
Sherri | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 02:08 pm     Sc00pgrl - all I know is that recently I went to NC to spend two weeks with my daughter and son-in-law when they had their first baby. I dearly love all of them, but by the end of about day three or four, I had to get out of that house for a few minutes and walk down the street because I thought I was going to scream or break something. I would never last in this game long unless I ate and smoked constantly (and I DO mean constantly)! The only other option would be to bring my Bible as my luxury item, read it and pray constantly, thus getting myself kicked out quickly anyway for having my nose stuck in my Bible all the time (and I mean this in the sense of isolating myself as opposed to any type of religious connotation). |
Bondmaiden | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 02:17 pm     Finally, a senseable thread putting things in perspective. Good job guys. |
Sc00pgrl | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 02:25 pm     Thanks all for all your added thoughts... was thinking I can't have these thoughts all by myself... there has to be more like me LOL |
Notorioussun | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 03:32 pm     Good thread. Nobody wants to understand these facts. Kind of like preaching to the choir or in this case, facing a mob of bashers. |
Azriel | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 05:47 pm     This is only a message board... We are watching a reality show even if it is a game. It's presented to us that these are real people. If I watched two actresses named Jun and Ali play a game that was scripted, then I wouldn't use any of the scripted behavior to assume anything about their real feelings or real life. These are supposed to be real people, so it would be unbelievable that they could possibly keep a game face on 24/7. We are seeing their real attitudes and feelings in between their 'game faces' and we are here on this message board because we all searched out a place where we could exchange our feelings about a show that we obviously feel strongly about or we wouldn't have looked to find a place to see what other people were saying about the show and bothered to post and communicate with those same people. Do some people get a little carried away on certain topics? Yes! I've been included in that category of people, too. This topic happens to be one of them. I get crazy every year when someone pops up and says - 'Calm down. It's only a game.'  |
Notorioussun | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 05:52 pm     Carried away? You can sure say that again. |
Wendo | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 06:02 pm     Sc00pgrl, excellent post and you point out many good points. Thank you for taking the time post your thoughts here. |
Slothkitten | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 06:31 pm     Azriel,great post.You and so many other posters seem to express yourselves so well....Does anyone else find themselves swayed by other peoples posts? That's alot of the enjoyment for me...people on this board constantly make me go hmmmm. |
Angelsluv | Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 03:53 am     I'll probably be slapped for this, but the constant remark of how HG's would be completely differant outside of the house and not react the same way seems to me, to be a rationalization. If someone is completely "not themselves", then they deserve Emmy's for their performances.. Stress does change people but this is like trying to plead "temporary insanity". |
Missy2 | Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 05:13 am     I completely agree with you Scoopgirl. I enjoy watching the feeds but lately it seems like I would rather watch the feeds and the show than read the posts here. I get bugged out by all of the badmouthing, complaints about cbs, unfair play etc. It's just a tv show, it's just a game. And if you were watched 24/7 for 3 months would you be so perfect? And everyone has a right to their opinion. |
Ric_Munoz | Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 05:23 am     Cameramanbob: "Indignation Coordinator" -- now THAT is funny; thanks for making me laugh. |
Cablejockey | Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 06:39 am     I agree that there is a massive amount of stress involved in playing games like this. Sometimes it crossess my mind that a lot of contestants get on these shows and havent watched them, and don't know all the ins and outs as the fans do. The stres will hit them harder. Every year you hear a few saying crazy stuff about the cameras--only small ones are going out to the internet--the rules--they never show hoh comps on web as in cage contest. It would help if real people who watch the show got on it. Regarding the game aspect of this show, games have rules and boundaries, they have penalties and scores. Big Brother feels like a chaotic non-game where anything goes sometimes. |
Nadi | Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 07:01 am     Well said Sc00pgrl! I've been coming here since BB1 and while I posted a fair bit that first year, I've mainly lurked in the subsequent seasons. I've found the posts in general to be getting nastier and nastier with each season. I understand the need some people have to defend certain houseguests. I think it's a fairly natural reaction to want to protect someone you think is under attack. I don't understand the need to promote hatred of the houseguests. I'm not talking about debating your opinion. I'm talking about throwing around words like "evil", incorrectly attributing words and/or actions to the houseguests and then excusing it by saying "well it doesn't matter because it's something they could easily have said/done", stating the same thing over and over again in multiple threads (we get it, you hate so and so!), wishing harm on the houseguests, wanting the houseguests to read everything posted on the Internet so they will know how much they are hated and can mend their evil, wicked ways etc... Everyone does have a right to their opinion and the right to express their opinion but personally I could do without the "hate", which I find to be more prevalent on this board than I actually see from the houseguests for all they throw around the word. |
Earthmother | Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 07:12 am     I've been coming here since BB1 and while I posted a fair bit that first year, I've mainly lurked in the subsequent seasons. I've found the posts in general to be getting nastier and nastier with each season. Nadi, I think that happens because the hgs get nastier each season, and I don't think it's by accident. The first season was not accepted well because it was (though less tense) very boring to watch a love fest where the hgs played to the public every week and were very guarded. Our reactions is what keeps the beast alive, and if we are incensed with their behavior we tell others and they watch the show and so on and so forth. |
Eliz87 | Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 07:35 am     Aah, Sc00pgrl, thank you for this thread... I was up until 2:30 last night chatting and this is very refreshing to wake up to. It IS just a game, just a television show. We may not all want these HG's for our personal friends, but they are contestants of the show and if they make it to the final two, then chances are they've done something right. Also, all of us here obviously love this board or we wouldn't be here. So, I vote to make posting on this board a POSITIVE experience. You can expect that not everyone will agree with your posts, but no need to rip someone's head off over it. :-) |
Nadi | Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 07:36 am     Earthmother, I'll respectfully disagree. With the exception of the first season I don't think the final 3 houseguests were any nastier than Danielle, Marcellas & Amy, Josh, Shannon Drago, Mike Boogie etc. from previous sesons. I think time helps you forget. It's sort of like getting hung over. While it's happening you think it's the worse thing ever and swear you'll never drink again but a year, month, week or whatever later it doesn't seem so bad and you do it all over again. I think people tend to push the envelope on what are acceptable comments to make. Gradually posts get worse and worse. |
Nadi | Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 07:46 am     Earthmother, I'll respectfully disagree. With the exception of the first season I don't think the final 3 houseguests were any nastier than Danielle, Marcellas & Amy, Josh, Shannon Drago, Mike Boogie etc. from previous sesons. I think time helps you forget. It's sort of like getting hung over. While it's happening you think it's the worse thing ever and swear you'll never drink again but a year, month, week or whatever later it doesn't seem so bad and you do it all over again. I think people tend to push the envelope on what are acceptable comments to make. Gradually posts get worse and worse. |
Earthmother | Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 08:04 am     Nadi, thanks for the respect..lol I think all the past hgs you mentioned were nasty, no doubt. What I meant is the degree of nasty. Shannon and Boogie were mean when talking to and about the other hgs, but never stepped into areas such as parenting. Last year's group were mean when talking about the other hgs and threw in comments about them on a personal level we had never seen before, such as Tonya's. This year they have used racist statements and verbally attacked families...I do believe it has gotten much worse over the years. |
Eliz87 | Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 08:09 am     Earthmother, I remember Mike "Boogie" making some comment to Kent about his children and how "wouldn't they be so proud of daddy" or something to that affect. And something else he said to Krista about Kent's kids...something to the effect that maybe he should make a visit to the south and tell Kent's kids about their father. Oh, I can't recall the exact words, but they were bad enough for Kent to point his finger at Mike, tell him to grow up, and to "leave my kids out of it." And you're right...last years comments about Tonya were deplorable as well. I think Danielle was responsible for a large number of those comments, and I think I remember Tonya calling her on it at the end. *sigh* Maybe instead of worrying about racial and ethnic diversification of the cast, we should simply wish for cast members who can act like grown-ups. |
Earthmother | Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 08:22 am     Yes, Boogie did make those remarks, but they were directed at Kent,and how his children would perceive him. If he had said "I bet your kids are as gross as you are" that would have opened a whole different can of worms for me. Dani and Marc's comments were directed at Tonya not at her kids. This year they were actually made to the child herself. Not to mention more than one hg making remarks about people's race or nationality, which I don't think we have ever had to experience before. |
Eliz87 | Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 09:53 am     aah Now I see what you're saying about the remarks concerning children. And it's true, I really can't recall any of the other HG's on the other shows mentioning race or ethnicity. |
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