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TV ClubHouse: Archive: What I learned about life this year from watching BB4: Archive through September 16, 2003

Mkcantjump

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 03:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've learned that if you are a woman and decide you actually want the 500 thousand, and you play that way- you are looked at by both other HGs and viewers as bad.

Spectacle

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 09:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Camille Paglia, in a speach at Yale... refered to the differences between men and women in the way we work together and compete. One thing she refered to was how women gather together and talk together, trying to reach a consensus before taking any action. Men have a leader, either chosen or one just steps up to the job. The study she was quoting from was a study done on very young children, but she was comparing it to how women struggle to WIN or compete for jobs in the USA compared to men. How true this has been in watching BB4 and how all the men took on leadership or followed their leader even after he was evicted (Justin and Jack). How many times have we heard Jee and Robert say...What did Justin tell us to do...even refering to things Jack might have told them...those two men were the leaders....Now personally I feel the way of consensus is a beautiful thing, but women in BB4 are critisized when they go from HG to HG, feeling them out for how they might see things, discussing different scenario's etc......some how in this manner of game strategy they are made out to look like monsters in bikini's.....using the sex game card......like the men don't do alot of complimenting and flirting....even the words we use to describe game tactics that men use verses how women use tactics.....women are always portrayed as helpless or vicious, evil and mean....watching BB4 TV shows...seeing what they edit and choose to broadcast....reading some posts and opinions, it is a sad thing for both sexes....how we judge the way they have learned in our society, corporatiions, or family structures.. to survive

Onlyhuman

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 12:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
First, I had reconfirmed that The TV Clubhouse is the best place to dissect, discuss, denigrate and defend Big Brother, the HGs, their actions, and our thoughts and feelings about all of those things. Without all of you, BB would not be worth it for me, especially this year.

This year I once again saw first hand evidence that the majority of people are far more complex than we give them credit for being. How you can live with these people (and that's what we do) and not realize that these are multi-dimensional people capable of good and bad behaviors is beyond me. Of course, occasionally we see people who live such shallow lives that they are unable to even acknowledge their depths, let alone let us observe them. For those people, I am reminded that I can pity them while I try to avoid them whenever possible in real life.

Once again I saw the power of a common enemy to unite a diverse group. Dana served this role, then the stooges, now Ali. What’s even more interesting is how bitter enemies will work together when an enemy has been sighted. It’s a common theme in history and one that has led to virtual bloodshed in the BB house and actual bloodshed in the real world.

I continue to be amazed at the lack of responsibility that people feel for their actions and emotions. It seems to be much easier to blame others than to accept that you may have made a mistake. I will remember that the next time I consume a bag of chocolate when I am stressed that it is my choice to do so, not the fault of my frustrating clients.

I saw the power that others have in our lives. Our thoughts, feelings, moods and actions can be greatly influenced by those around us, even those we are simply observing. We are communal animals and, as such, we are constantly responding to the people around us. It is important to remember that we influence others as well and we must decide how best to use that influence. Our interactions with others are part of what makes us so human.

Tobor7

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 09:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
cha-cha-bump

Spectacle

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 11:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
tobor...i am beginng to wonder if my brain is slowly draining away....so much has been lost i have no idea if it is bb4 related or just a general irreversable case of brain mush disorder ..... and yes that is a real medical term.... somewhere in the universe....for today, that is what i've learned

Tasia

Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 12:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I learned that life does exist and I plan to be outside enjoying it more often and especially when BB5 rolls around. AS lost a viewer after this years fiasco. (IMHO Of Course)I'll still read the posts but I refuse to turn on the TV to a channel that features a 21st century $64,000 Question scandal all over again. I still have hope for Survivor though.

Lancecrossfire

Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 12:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think there have been some great observations here in this thread!!

I'd like to add another to the list I made. Sometimes it doesn't matter how good or bad you are--chance plays a roll in life at times. So many things we can't control, and are completely out of our hands.

At times we will be in the right place at the right time. Sometimes the right place at the wrong time. Sometimes the wrong place at the right time, and sometimes the wrong place at the wrong time.

After that, it's what we do with it that makes life (or these games) so interesting to watch.

Spectacle

Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 12:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
lancecrossfire...another very good entry...life is interesting for sure, though there are times when it feels a bit too hectic and uncertain...in the final analysis....I LOVE LIFE...always have and looks like I always will
BB4 is a sort of make believe world but then again there is so much of what happens between houseguests and internally for each HG that rings true of life as we know it. I sometimes find it interesting in these chats that some seem so shocked at what is said and done between HGs...

Marcie_B

Sunday, September 14, 2003 - 10:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I learned today (the hard way) not to be ingesting a day-old KFC biscuit while reading the "Memorable TVCH Quotes from BB4" thread. Ouch. I choked -- more from laughter than the biscuit -- for 10 minutes. I'm still chuckling at some of these bon mots. Whoa...what a bunch of comedians!

I've also learned that "America's Choice" is never MY choice.

Tobor7

Sunday, September 14, 2003 - 02:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tobor looks in to see how his thread (which he started so long ago it seems) was going.

(sigh)

Marcie_B

Sunday, September 14, 2003 - 02:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tabor....I sigh along with you. Guess my bringing it to the top after a week of inactivity brought it off topic.

Another thing I learned: Not to post. It kills a thread.

Hamsterville

Sunday, September 14, 2003 - 03:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've learned that when it comes down to poor casting and a show shooting for younger demographics, the outcome is that I choose to do other things with my time than watch BB on a Friday night. I've also learned that this Reality Show addict can do without live feeds and not miss them at all. Surely next year will be better!

Mizinvanccouver

Sunday, September 14, 2003 - 04:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Marcie_B--Look..... it's not killed it's still going strong!! This thread has so many posts, way more than a lot of other threads out there!

I can't say I've learned anything from the HGs but I learned I enjoy posting in threads this year!!

Zgoodgirl

Sunday, September 14, 2003 - 04:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've learned that Barry Drewmore has been lying about her name to us all this time.

Mizinvanccouver

Sunday, September 14, 2003 - 04:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ROFLMAO @ Zgoodgirl's comment!

Andysmojo

Sunday, September 14, 2003 - 09:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I learned that I'm not the only one who hates Mimes!

Beruthiel

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 06:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I've learned that there are good people and not so good people in the world, and that unfortunately the not so good people seem to reap the material rewards in life, but conversely, the good people live lives of quiet and deep satisfaction which can't be matched by those with a bank vault full of gold, because gold coin is hard and cold, but the gold in hearts is warm and glowing, and worthier by far, and learning that, is a blessing.

Beruthiel

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 02:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hehehe... I also learned that I still have that old thread-killer skill!

Boberg

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 02:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Beruthiel re: your 6:26am post...most of us who fully understand and appreciate your post are OLD...LOL..but I wouldn't give up that knowledge of what is really important in life(as opposed to what is fleeting) in order to be 20 again because you are right..it is truly a blessing to love and be loved and no amount of money or worldly possessions could replace that deep satisfaction and sense of peace I feel daily.
Seeeeee, your no thread killer...LOL

Beruthiel

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 02:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
((((Boberg))))

Mystery

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 04:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This year I learned about bellinis and I had one at a restaurant the other night (well okay, I had two).... yum!

Bearware

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 02:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I learned something about myself this year. I really DO care about the character of the players. I know it's only a game, and I know I've still watched the show, but in thinking back on last year, I was incredibly tied up emotionally about Jason and Danielle going to the end together. I really did want to see them take it all. I just don't care about these people this year. I feel they are more than selfish, more like totally self-involved. Their worlds stop at the end of their noses, and all they see is what affects them. What a sad life they have in front of them, but I still don't really CARE about any of them.

Guess age really IS about learning to discern the more important things in life. Character, kindness, friendship.

Tobor7

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 02:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nice Bear.

I really DO care about the character of the players as well. That is what makes it engaging. That is what gets us involved. Otherwise it is like watching 2 computers play chess. And why so many people are in a "who cares" mode right now.

Well stated dood. If I had Jee's 500 Gs, I would give them to you! LOL

Bearware

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 02:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL, Tobor, THANKS!

I guess that's why I like it here so much, I do feel the 'players' here are worth knowing! Thanks for a great season!

Onlyhuman

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 04:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bear and Tobor, you summed it up for me exactly...

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I really DO care about the character of the players as well. That is what makes it engaging. That is what gets us involved. Otherwise it is like watching 2 computers play chess.



I watch baseball and football when I want a good game. I watch BB because I am fascinated by human interaction. The fact that so much of that interaction has been unpleasant has really let me down this year. I want to see SOMETHING worth cheering.

One thing I've learned is that at some point, things just have to get better. As a long term SF Giants fan, I'll just say that familiar mantra..."Wait 'til next year!"