CBS owes us an EXPLANATION!!
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Rubberduckey | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 08:29 am     Thank god wendo, i have been waiting for someome to finally post that ! |
Wendo | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 08:33 am     LOL Rubberduckey! Everytime I read the Discussion Board and see this thread it's all I could think. I was also wondering if I was the only one who felt this way. Apparently, I wasn't. Btw, GREAT NAME! "Rubber ducky you're the one, you make bathing so much fun!" - Sesame Street |
Chief1 | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 01:13 pm     Wendo, while I know you support BB this year, others DO have a difference of opinion. We could all decide to do just what you have suggested, by expressing our "choice" to not watch. It was never suggested anyone was forced, but for those of us who REALLY enjoy the concept of this show, we want to continue to watch, hoping that CBS will improve its content. As we watch, this season has gone by, and has been the biggest letdown in the history of BB seasons. I'm not going to BAN the show, because I'm hooked. I'll be back next year, too. But when they advertise one thing, and we get nearly the opposite, I do think they owe us an explanation, *personally*. |
Woodpecke® | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 01:18 pm     I agree, Chief. When the Live Feeds tell a different story than the show, CBS needs to present the entire package. |
Wendo | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 02:59 pm     Chief1 said, "Wendo, while I know you support BB this year, others DO have a difference of opinion." Actually Chief1, I neither support nor don't support this season. I'm just watching it. However, I agree with many here that this season has not been near as good as the past two seasons; that the X-Factor twist was a bust, the casting was terrible, and that, overall, this season could've been a lot better. However, I also feel that, while there were these failures, at least ASP and CBS tried to make a better product. Unfortunately, it just didn't pan out. The fact that they tried shows me that they're at least committed to the show for the foreseable future. (They can't hit them all out of the park, as they say.) For me, though, I don't feel I'm owed an explanation. Just as I wouldn't expect one for a week season of The X-Files. However, I do appreciate your comments on why you feel you do. Thanks. Woodpecker, other than BB1, ASP and CBS have frequently omitted things during the tv show when one compares the live feeds to the tv show. They're crafting a storyline, using the footage they feel relates the best drama, and, likely, not showing things they feel aren't necessary to show to the audience at large. The live feed component of BB, since BB2, has always been secondary to the show and the story it's trying to "tell". I expect, because the ratings have improved, that this practice will continue. Is it unfair or not right? I don't know. I guess I don't care because I am able to get the full story if I want. (But I do see your argument.) My concern in the future is that ASP and CBS will pull the online component all together so they don't have to deal with the issue at all. And if that happened, I would be disappointed. What I plan to do at the end of the season is this. Write an email to ASP commenting on what I felt were failures of this years show. But, also thank them for trying to do something new, though it wasn't as interesting as it was intended. That I continue to enjoy BB as well as the live feeds and look forward to BB 5. Anyway, all we can hope for is a better group of people and a better show next year. |
Smokey | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 03:04 pm     Chief1 Monday, September 22, 2003 - 01:35 pm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Wendo, while I know you support BB this year, others DO have a difference of opinion. We could all decide to do just what you have suggested, by expressing our "choice" to not watch. It was never suggested anyone was forced, but for those of us who REALLY enjoy the concept of this show, we want to continue to watch, hoping that CBS will improve its content. As we watch, this season has gone by, and has been the biggest letdown in the history of BB seasons. I'm not going to BAN the show, because I'm hooked. I'll be back next year, too. But when they advertise one thing, and we get nearly the opposite, I do think they owe us an explanation, *personally*." Thanks, Chief--I don't think I am owed an explanation so much as I don't know how they can call it a reality show, and show most of it online where we can see what is going on, then edit the TV show to make certain "characters" be entirely different than the internet audience has viewed and knows them to be. That's my beef with Shapiro and associates. If it's going to be edited to that degree, than they need to make some sort of statement saying, "We are adjusting the personalities of certain houseguests to fit what we feel you want to see". |
Woodpecke® | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 03:14 pm     I beg to differ, Wendo. The constant diatribes by Alison and Jun while together in the house have been completely ignored in the television show. While it is impossible to include all Live Feed musings in a thrice-weekly TV show, the omission of these thoughts and conversations is pivotal to the audience if they are to get a fair picture of this game. Comparing BB4 to The X Files is completely off the chart. The vicious comments made by members of the BB 4 cast need to be shown by CBS. Leaving them out is an unprecedented editing failure. |
Earthmother | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 06:15 pm     that's why this show needs to be picked up by HBO..lol |
Murph | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 08:26 pm     I was looking for a particular situation today and while looking in Jokers Update I found this Live Feed from 8/25/03. At that time Jack and Erika were on the Block, Jee was HOH. 08/25/03 11:41 PM Edit Reply Quote Jun and Ali were talking before Ali went into the bathroom...Ali thinks.."John" will like Ali and Jun going to the finals, and he makes them feel loved. Then Ali asks Does Arnold make you feel loved too? Jun says "yes"..me too says Ali..then FOTH... I am thinking John is John De Mol and Arnold is Arnold Shaprio. Interesting.... |
Llkoolaid | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 08:53 pm     Where are my posts? |
Woodpecke® | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 09:14 pm     They took 'em. |
Earthmother | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 09:22 pm     Damn CBS.. |
Woodpecke® | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 09:23 pm     I think they misplaced them. I went to the 10,001 posts thread and we lost some messages there too. |
Woodpecke® | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 09:24 pm     Yes. Blame it on CBS. They even edit this thread. |
Nexell2 | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 10:32 pm     CBS owes nobody an explanation. If you're looking for one, you're going to have long,long wait. |
Moderator | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 11:07 pm     We experienced a redirection problem with the server switch today, so many posts were lost. Nothing personal against anyone (so no need for any conspiracy theories - lol). Some stayed on the old server and some ended up on the new server. We will all be back shortly! |
Woodpecke® | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 11:19 pm     Thanks, Nexell. You explained that very well. CBS has left out a lot of the happenings and conversations in the BB house. If they choose not to air them, many of us feel that what is being portrayed in the game isn't accurate. |
Beruthiel | Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 12:41 am     Spooky! All those poor little lost posts floating in Cyber fog! Er, what was the subject again? Oh yeah. I think I've already posted here, way back somewhere, so I'll just shut the heck up,LOL! |
Wendo | Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 01:17 am     Wood, I do agree, it would paint a more accurate picture if ASP would show all sides to a HG, not one that "looks good" on tv. In a sense that would be perfect. Unfortunately, it's just not a perfect world out there. And, at this point, those of us who watch have neither the power or clout to get them to change. As I said, we can write ASP to let them know our feelings and hope that some are heeded. But I will say, I'm not holding my breath. (One needs air as they say. LOL!) As to the comparison to the X-Files. It was meant not comparing two shows that really are not comparable. I was trying to illustrate that sometimes, favorite shows have strong seasons and weak seasons. BB2 and BB3 were strong. BB4, weak. Hope that clarifies. |
Llkoolaid | Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 03:45 am     Thanks for the explanation, I lost posts on a few and didn't think I did anything wrong. I went to bed going mmmmph. |
Chief1 | Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 03:47 pm     Above, I just read Murph's post re: 08/25/03 11:41 PM Edit Reply Quote Jun and Ali were talking before Ali went into the bathroom...Ali thinks.."John" will like Ali and Jun going to the finals, and he makes them feel loved. Then Ali asks Does Arnold make you feel loved too? Jun says "yes"..me too says Ali..then FOTH... It happened a LOT this year, too, except the HGs kept reminding each other that, "we're not supposed to talk about it." (Meaning they can't discuss what they said in the DR, or who they discussed it with.) Oh, the SPIN was definitely put on the HGs actions, just as the folks behind the scenes wanted it. So in essence, the producers gear the public's opinions in various directions. (BUT, I don't think ALI needed any help! lol) Remember last year, when everyone trashed Dani so much? She played a GREAT game, with the exception of what she revealed in the DR. And what she said wasn't anywhere close to the despicable things we heard this year! There were several occasions when Jason asked her about her DR session, and she would tell him, "Oh, they wanted me to do my weekly countdown".... or "They think I should [do this or say that] ...." (Not too much of a FOTH problem last year like this year, so we didn't get the goodies for BB4.) So her downfall may be that she was the producer's dream! You brought back memories, Murph! 'Preciate you!  |
Murph | Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 04:25 pm     Thanks Chief 1, IMO, I think the stage was set by the producers. I think they picked Ali has their front runner. Me thinks that is why the really down and dirty on Miss Allison has not been shown to the TV audience. After all, they have humliated Jun with those things on her weight. Everyone else's warts have been shown. And Ali remains the beauty queen "everyone loves to hate" If Ali only wins the $50,000 this year then woe be to the person that the producers "love" next year. |
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