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Kalekona

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 12:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cliotheleo - I saw Josh in Playgirl and still have nightmares.. No really i thought about burning my eyes out... it was so disturbing. lol
And i'm far from a prude, i love naked men in the right setting (one of my fav. shows is Queer as folk) but some guys should just leave it covered.

Gidget

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 02:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Eliz87, Pamy said it well. Did that make sense? Umm there are young ladies whose job it is to keep the men in a state of arousal. Where were those push up pop pictures posted? It's like that.

I hope I sufficiently danced around the edges of propriety while conveying my meaning.

Eliz87

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 02:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, Gidg...I'm so embarrassed -- I really didn't know what that was. I don't consider myself naive but, gee, maybe I should get out more! LOL

Bonzacat

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 02:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just love wandering into a thread for the first time and seeing how how the train can sometimes leave the tracks..... to fluffers and other educational subjects!

And Ric, we have to stop meeting like this and I TOTALLY agree with you about Ryan & Shia -- I couldn't put my finger on it Thursday night (no pun intended, really), but he reminded me of *someone*! (I'm going to just not comment about the "elongated" part...)

Gidget

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 02:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nah Eliz87, I just have eclectic interests and was a card carrying member of the free love generation. Plus I have cable.

Ric_Munoz

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 03:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi Bonza! I wasn't trying to be prurient when I used the term elongated; I only meant that he's much taller than precious little Shia. The resemblance is really strong from certain camera angles -- I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks so!

Eeyoreslament

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 05:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OK gidget....this is the only explanation I can think of to your question, although I sort of see your point about our double standard regarding Ali in the game.

OK, the women just "flashing" and batting some eyelashes at the locals in that village on Survivor is *sexuality flaunting* to a lesser degree.

Ali had a boyfriend, and she actually became intimate (kissing is my definition of intimate) with 3 of the men in the house. If she was just showing some cleavage, or walking around scantily clad in hopes that men would keep her around, I could see it being on similar grounds to girls flashing villagers in Survivor.

I would FREAK if my significant other kissed another person in a game that can be won without intimacy. However if they flirted, or acted like a c--k-tease to get ahead, I would have no problem with it.

I guess the line is drawn for me between looking and touching.

(on a side note - I had no issue with Ali using her sexuality in the game. I thought it was only in bad taste as she kept whining about her boyfriend and HIS reaction. She made her bed, and she chose what she was going to do in it too.)

Sisalou

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 06:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Don't feel bad Eliz87. I thought "fluffer" had something to do with the hair down there. LOL

Gidget

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 06:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ROFL. Thanks that was a great laugh.

Eeyoreslament - So it is degrees? I would be ashamed to use my body in either manner. Now. A few years ago, no problem. That is where I am at personally. I like to think a am much more than my body and it is only one aspect of me.

I do not necessarily have a problem with other women doing it. Frankly, it rarely gets them anything but a sullied reputation. Sometimes it can get them more. But tell me what happens when there is nothing to flaunt? In today's society, you are old news very fast. You'd better have either developed other aspects of yourself or married very well young.

I totally agree about the difference between looking and touching. I think we are mostly on the same page.

Bonzacat

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 06:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ric, this has been a chuckle! I knew you were talking about his height but with the way the thread was going, there was humor to be had in hilighting the wording. You don't think this means we're bored, does it? '-)

Now I will study Ryan more closely, but I think his face and even the way he talked was similar to Shia. Ryan may not last long in the Pirate environment.

Ric_Munoz

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 06:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree, Bonza. He'll never make it to the jury. If he does, I'll curl my hair to match Shia's.

Sunshyne4u

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 09:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Absolutely killing myself laughing here! Can't resist joining in!

Gidget....My THEORY on why we will see Full Frontal Nudity of the women and NOT the men during these 'love/sex' scenes.

I call it the "chill factor". You will notice that the air is often very cold when they film these scenes! Now, we all know men love what happens to women during these gusts of cold air, HOWEVER, we all know what happens to MEN when they get a little chilly!!

THAT my dear Gidget is the reason we will not see full frontal men. Shrinkage!!!! I was going to use another term but no doubt would be moderated LOL

Gidget

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 09:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So how come they don't have that problem in porn movies? Huh, Huh? Could it be the fluffer factor. And the women use ice cubes in those films to get the right effect.

Are you telling me there are no **** ******* in Hollywood?

Bohawkins

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 09:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well... not any of the nude scenes in Survivor made the screen. Only fuzzied out patches could be seen which were not discernable as anything.

Lots of guys doing frontal nudity now do simple injections of caverject (look it up in google) to enable them to maintain a non-shrinkage effect.

Some of the girls also had on very little in Survivor (no underthings and short skirts), but the camera work and editing showed nary a peek.

Caycaye

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 09:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
SISALOU!!!! omg!!! I JUST SPIT MY JUICE ALL OVER MY MONITOR..... Cracked me up!!!

SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE HAIR DOWN THERE....


LMAO!!!!!!!

Gidget

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 09:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Can we say outtakes. Someone in editting has already guaranteed his retirement fund. I shudder to think where they might be injecting and unfortunately I think I'm right. Ewwww.

Bohawkins

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 09:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, Gidget, but it is a very tiny needle, placed exactly where you guessed (do that google look up for more info) and the effect is four hours and longer. Some use it in conjunction with Viagra.

Eeyoreslament

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 10:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OMG Bohawkins. OMG.

I can't decide whether to shudder, snicker, or just sit here speechless. What's worse is I am contemplating going over to Google. Do I WANT to even look it up!?!?!!! hahaha.

On a different note, I like to think that when they blur out men's frontal nudity, it's either because they show is sparing the men the embarassment, or that they actually HAVE blurry patches between their legs, as opposed to what most men have. heh heh heh....

Gidget

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 10:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Bo. I am skeeving. Needles freak me out no matter how small and of course I had to find out exactly where one would inject such a thing. Bet that will never help me get on Jeopardy.

It is nice to know it exists for people who really need the help though

Gidget

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 10:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Inquiring minds want to know Eeyore

Monalisahi

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 10:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OK, is anybody besides me wondering how Bo knows so much about this?????.....lol

Gidget

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 10:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think he lives in NY. That's what I am choosing to believe. And where is Wood? This conversation cries out for his input.

Sunshyne4u

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 10:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
AH yes, we are back at it eh? LOL

Gidget, I thought you were talking about sex/love scenes in Movies or those artsy fake kind of movies(simulated scenes)

Porn movies are completely different. Sometimes the people(women) really ARE excited and things dont need any artificial cold air blowing on them LOL (either that or those huge implants have a perma-perky effect on the lady's parts)

You know BO- I saw a show on the prevalent use of those injectables and the DAMAGE that it causes to the guys important parts. Evidently because some guys are embarrassed about their NORMAL down time between scenes they have started to use drugs. Yes even the early twentys year olds!! Crazy kids!!

Bonzacat

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 10:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ric -- we'll need before & after photos! :-)

Charvie

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 11:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have a friend who does prop work and the behind the scenes for porn. And he has informed me that it is not rare for him to have to fill in for the male "actor" because he is having problems "rising" for the occasion.