Archive through September 18, 2003
TV ClubHouse: Archive: Elena was there - fair or unfair?:
Archive through September 18, 2003
Ladytex | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:12 am     I thought it was sweet and I'm glad BB did it ... |
Animaldr | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:22 am     I'm glad BB allowed him to see Elena. I'm assuming Robert will be spending some time in the Jury House (he has to bring the tape of highlights) and will get to talk "Game" with the others. While we saw him reunited with his daughter, we dod not know the extent of contact the other jurors have had with their family. They aren't showing us. They at least get monitored telephone calls. They are only being sequestered so they cannot see the DR tapes or know what went on without their knowledge. The goal of the jury house is not to prohibit ALL outside contact. |
Steveh | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:24 am     Hello. The guy came THIS close to at least 50 grand (maybe a half-mill) and now he gets zilch. Why not cut him a little slack and create some great TV in the bargain? Is it "fair" to show Robert's "W***e Speech" over and over and over and not even mention the ever accelerating profane antics of the Borgia sisters? |
Jimmer | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:25 am     I was more than happy to see Big Brother do it. The reason for sequestering the houseguests is to avoid them finding out more about the game from friends and family than they would have known otherwise. It’s extremely unlikely that this would happen in this situation and I think it was a special moment. |
Flamingo | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:40 am     humane? they will see each other in a week anyway, I don't think one more week apart would have been a horrific thing. why do I get the feeling that next year we'll see half the contestants with small children at home? Got to love those crying scenes for ratings! |
Eliz87 | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:47 am     This is so sad. Why is this genuinely happy and loving scenario being twisted into something that it's not? |
Puzzled | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:48 am     I thought it was nice and agree that this isn't going to change his vote at all. Of the non-"winners" he lasted longest in the house--the one's kicked out earlier got nice long vacations in paradise. So I consider this his consolation prize. |
Cliotheleo | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:48 am     Jun asked the DR last night if Robert was going to the Jury house and they said, yes, he he was but probably not for the whole week. I agree with what others have said, yeah, it might have been unfair, but who cares? The good outweighed the bad and I have to seriously wonder about anyone who's gonna be upset over a seven year old being reunited with her father for WHATEVER the reason or circumstances. |
Bastable | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:50 am     I agree that the child factor is obnoxious. I believe it's getting to where there's a significant portion of society that -- whether they want to admit it or not-- has more respect for people with kids than people who don't have kids. |
Crossfire | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:52 am     Yeah, I believe that to be true. |
Trinity63 | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:54 am     I cried when I saw him reunited with his child. Is it fair -- I don't know. I guess honestly I wasn't factoring in the fairness rule, I was just seeing a father who loved his daughter so very much. Kids that age don't understand three months -- or the conception of time like that. They just know that "Dad" is gone. Perhaps the BB psychologist felt it would be from a mental health standpoint much healthier for the both of them if they were able to see one another, hugs, assure each other that they were okay, and then Robert probably explained to his daughter he had to go away for one more week and would be back. I don't know, wasn't there. I don't think Robert's getting soft. I don't think he's going to allow Ali to win, and I think he's going to tell the rest of the Jury members exactly what she's been saying and doing. At least I hope to God he does. Ali doesn't deserve to win. |
Flamingo | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:56 am     Weather people agree with the focus on Elena or not, Robert has unquestionably been given preferential treatment here. I am sure, though, that next year, if there are one or two players in the game with small children, any money they will be the first ones voted out. |
Crazydog | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 07:57 am     Eliz, in starting this topic I was not trying to twist anything, I was just pointing out the fact that BB has apparently made an exception to the sequestering / no loved ones rule for Robert. I just think there should be equal treatment for all. I agree with you Bastable - I have seen that on this very board, where I was told that since I don't have children I can't possibly understand what it is like because I have not experienced that kind of bond. It really made me feel like I was a less significant contributor here, as if my opinions about Robert were less valid because I don't have kids. I think this board has room for people with all kinds of viewpoints. |
Earthmother | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:03 am     I thought it was very sweet. None of us know if the jury house was asked "if Robert is evicted would you think it was unfair if he gets to see his daughter before he is sequestered?" I think the only ones that would deem it unfair would be the two left in the house, because that would be their style. |
Stardust | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:04 am     I can't believe this thread even exists...this is so sad, come on people, he was the only HG with a young child who he obviously missed very much and she him...it was what should have happened, they needed to see each other...fair and unfair have nothing to do with it, and tv ratings, please! You people are making me sick...I am done with TVCH. Sorry, but I can't read this stuff anymore. "it's not fair, it's not fair!" OMG! robert got to see his 7 yr. old daughter (who we all KNOW he loves dearly)after almost 100 days being separated from her (don't forget the sequester before going into the house) It was beautiful to see and it made a little girl very happy I'm sure, that is ALL that matters. |
Llkoolaid | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:04 am     Getting to be, hasn't it always been that way. I know it is wrong and I don't believe anyone should have a child that doesn't want one but when I see people that do not have children my first thought is "what a sin, I wonder what is wrong" if I know that they choose not to have children then my first instinct is to think" gee they must be very self centered cold peopel". Now I know that it is wrong to think this way and I know that it is not true but if I am being truthful that is what pops in my head. Maybe it is because I can't remember not ever wanting children or maybe it is because most people my age grew up looking for the happy little family and the picket fence, I don't know. |
Llkoolaid | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:07 am     Don't leave Stardust, give TVCH a chance, we do seem to go overboard a lot on silly things especially when the show is boring and some of us just like to argue but all in all you will be hard pressed to find a nicer group of people. I agree with you that argueing over a 7 year old child is silly. |
Aunt_Bob | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:07 am     Fair vs Unfair - it is in the eye of the beholder. My eyes witnessed a moment of genuine unconditional love between a child and her parent - that left me with a 'good feeling'! In reference to this particular incident during the BB4 game, I do not feel the question: Fair or Unfair...should even be a consideration. I can, though, think of many other incidents brought into play by the 'producers/writers' of the show that were, without a doubt, questionable in the Fair vs Unfair arena! |
Cliotheleo | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:08 am     ......... yeah, like when they only gave the HGs half a cake on Jun's birthday. Now THAT was unfair!!!!!
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Brenda1966 | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:11 am     What llkoolaid said. I can't believe people are crying "unfair" about Robert seeing his daughter. I'm sure the houseguests won't be crying "unfair" when he tells them he got to see her. I'd assume they each have been able to speak to loved ones. For goodness sakes, there are other things to get upset over, like the fact that Ali may actually win this! *shudder* |
Jagger | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:14 am     I knew as soon as I saw her on the show last night that there would be a thread on this. Was it fair, who knows, will it hurt the intergrity of the show, dought it, this show doesn't have much integrity to hurt. Was it good for the ratings, you bet. Will it hurt the outcome of the voting, not one bit. |
Crazydog | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:14 am     Stardust, I don't appreciate being told that my opinions are "sad" and that they are "making [you] sick". There is room for all types of opinions here on these boards, and I feel you should simply state your opinion without attacking other people's opinion. Everybody has the right to post their views, as long as it is done respectfully. If you can't understand that then I think you are welcome to leave. |
Llkoolaid | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:15 am     Hey, it is almost over, I really don't care who wins this one, hope lots of you BB fans stick around for Survivor. |
Volgirl | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:15 am     I thought it was great and I agree with a previous post~ BB would have crazy not to take advantage of a great TV moment. |
Monalisahi | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:16 am     I agree with Star on this one, I don't think fairness has anything to do with it since I don't think it can alter the game in any way. We have no idea what happened after the show but we can assume from now till doomsday. I doubt (and this is my assumption) he got to spend much time with her. I don't think it was for ratings since it wasn't advertised nor even expected (the first time we've seen the "unexpected" in this show). Robert seemed to have the most trouble in the house with being seperated from a loved one, I see nothing wrong with it at all and I'm glad they let them have their hug. |
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