Wendo | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 12:32 pm     Kalekona, you are in error. It was Ali who figured out that Jun was at the VMA's. She even stated it as a possibility after only the second clue. |
Crazydog | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 12:40 pm     I think it would be great if Nathan used his question to say to Alison, "Ali, after I saved you with the veto, you said you would buy me a car if you won. Do you intend to honor that promise?" I think this question would show a lot about Ali's character. If she says no, then she is exposed as someone who will say whatever she wants whenever it is convenient. If she says yes, then she may possibly get Nathan's vote, but then the 7 voters and all of America knows she has made this promise. If she follows through, then Nate's a winner. If not, then she again is exposed as someone who says whatever she wants whenever she wants just to get ahead in life. |
Kalekona | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 12:45 pm     Wendo in the bedroom after the second clue it was Erika who said the VMA's. |
Kalekona | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 12:56 pm     Wendo i stand corrected... Ali figured out VMA's but didn't know where they were held she asked Erika who did know NY so it was a joint effort really. |
Stardust | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 01:13 pm     In an earlier post...What555456 said that Ali deserves to win?????? hahahaha!!!!! YEAH RIGHT!!!!!!!!! Just thinking about Ali winning any money at all makes me ill. |
Crossfire | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 01:15 pm     If there were a decent person left in the house, you'd have a point. |
Katlady53 | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 01:22 pm     If Ali wins, I'll be physically ill. |
Angelsluv | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 01:29 pm     After all the talk and lies, I wouldn't think that Ali would say "No" to Nate if he did bring up her promise of a car to him.. Even if she said "yes" and didn't go through with it afterwards, who's going to really know as far as "America" unless she gets "Stardom" *LOL* As far as the jury, they would have already voted, and couldn't take it back if she didn't give Nate a car if they let her win.. ^5 to Missapril for her coments |
Peepinagain | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 02:07 pm     Remember Nate said he wants to cuddle which means she would have to be voted OUT of the house. Which means he not thinking along the lines that she's gonna make it to the final 2. It also doesn't necessarily mean he would vote for her but just wants to use her as a cuddle toy. |
Crazydog | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 02:45 pm     I don't take anything away from the cuddling comment, other than 1) Nathan wants to see Alison get evicted, and 2) Nathan is trying to prove to America that he is not gay. |
Iscreamer1 | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 03:05 pm     Yes Peep and Crazy I agree but there was no malice in his voice or expression to make me think that he was still (if ever) angry with her. I'm sure he wanted her evicted as payback but I feel he is prepared to vote for her in the end. I think the others might be swayed by his outlook. On the other hand if Jun wins HOH and takes Robert then this point is moot!! GO JUN!! |
C1mag | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 03:18 pm     I think Ali is going to win. Still have a whole week to explain why but I think it's gonna happen. 2 votes will be cast based on hurt feelings the other 5 will look at that game and give no thought to the bashing and trashing. People are forgetting that Jun pulled a big betrayl and I think it's gonna come back and bite her. It's like Erika and Rob both said... "Don't be so sure that taking Ali to the finals is a sure bet that you would beat her. It's not like we don't know what type of human being she is. She never faked it. She has played harder than anyone in the house and she has earned it" If she nails this final hoh I think Ali will win the whole thing. |
Crazydog | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 03:21 pm     C1mag, who did Jun betray? The original alliance? I tend to see that as Dana betraying the alliance and Jun going along with her. IIRC, Jun didn't want to break from the alliance, and it was something that Dana just did. |
C1mag | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 03:28 pm     Crazy on week 3 Juns game of laying low and floating was reveled by Danas cop like move. Jun vowed out in the backyard as Dana and the dreamteam gained control she would play with them to the end. The following week Jun left a very abrassive goodbye message to Dana and imediately went right back to floating status and one by one she helped to eliminate the team that will now be voting. They will not all be giving her an easy vote. Some of them may even be angry at her for allowing Ali to stay in the game when she had a chance to take her out. Was it really wise to take Ali to the finals because you "thought" she was easy to beat? Ask Kelly from survivor that question. |
Crazydog | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 03:39 pm     Jun was honest in that goodbye message to Dana - she said that it was obvious no one wanted her there. I don't think she said that she herself didn't want Dana there. I don't think Dana will hold it against her, especially because I can't see Dana voting for Alison. I still believe that Jun has definite votes from Dana and Jee. I would say Jack is 80% leaning towards Jun. I think Nathan would lean towards Jun as well. The thing is that I never saw Erika or Jack angry with Jun over her floater status. I don't think they will hold it against her. Jack particularly will respect her game play. |
C1mag | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 03:48 pm     Erika and Jack will give it to Ali. Like I said there is another week before we get into all the "what if's" and guessing how they will vote and why. I agree Dana is a Jun vote for sure but she is one of only two people that will vote based on anger and feelings of jealousy. The other 5 will look at who played the hardest. Ali will get some of those votes. I wouldn't be so sure that Jee will vote for Jun once Rob tells him all the things Jun has said about him. Don't forget, she nominated and booted him personally. Rob can't stand her as it is and once he gets there he may just switch Jees vote. He could say, "dude she didn't give it to you why should you give it to her? She thinks she's gonna win just cause she is sitting next to Ali and lets face it.. We all know Ali played a fierce game" ... Like I said there is another week for all this guessing of who will vote for who and why. I'm still saying that Ali will win the larger amount of money when it's all done and said and she may win by a wide margin. |