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Brotherman

Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 01:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There must have been others.

Bohawkins

Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 02:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana is also of Cuban extraction

Scarlet

Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 02:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amber?

Charvie

Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 03:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
JA--Josh Souza

Bastable

Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 04:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So funny-- here on the East Coast, we always say "Hispanic." Wonder if there's really any difference. Anyone know?

Chiparock

Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 04:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No difference. If one's ancestors were from Spain or spoke the Spanish language, one is Hispanic. Also Latino, because the Spanish language stems from Latin. Josh Souza's ancestry is Portuguese, but I believe that he would still be classified as Hispanic or Latino.

[I once knew someone from Texas whose parents were Mexican and Puerto Rican, so she called herself a "TexMexaRican!"]

Woodpecke®

Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 04:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Isn't Jun Latino?

C1mag

Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 04:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No. Jun is African American.

Woodpecke®

Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 04:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks, C1.

Grannyg

Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 04:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought Jun was Korean, same as Jee.

Woodpecke®

Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 04:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Psssst. Granny. We were having a little fun.

C1mag

Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 04:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ahahahahaha!

Charvie

Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 04:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Now you guys are really funny.

Gina8642

Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 05:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought Latino referred to people from Latin America (South and Central America). Whereas hispanic referred to people of spanish extract. At least that's what they taught in spanish class.

So, someone from Brazil would be latino but not hispanic.

No idea for sure....

Whit4you

Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 06:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No, Latino means "Married to Jay Lo"

Draheid

Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 06:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I looked these up at Merriam-Webster Online

Main Entry: La·ti·no
Pronunciation: l&-'tE-(")nO
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -nos
Etymology: American Spanish, probably short for latinoamericano Latin American
Date: 1946
1 : a native or inhabitant of Latin America
2 : a person of Latin-American origin living in the U.S.
- Latino adjective


Main Entry: His·pan·ic
Pronunciation: hi-'spa-nik
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin hispanicus, from Hispania Iberian Peninsula, Spain
Date: circa 1889
: of, relating to, or being a person of Latin American descent living in the U.S.; especially : one of Cuban, Mexican, or Puerto Rican origin.

Luvtrash

Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 11:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well now, as a teacher of Spanish for Native Speakers, this is an important issue nowadays and I could give a lengthy lecture! However, I will try to restrain myself and say only that Latino does indeed refer to anyone speaking a Latin based language--French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian. (A French Minister recently referred to his countrymen as "Latins") Hispanic refers to those who speak Spanish. As you can see from the dictionary entries quoted (although you can find different ones in different books) there is a lot of confusion and misunderstanding of the terms and the people we discribe with these terms disagree--sometimes vehemently. It is a topic in textbooks, magazines and meetings. The general consensus is you identify yourself as you wish but be prepared to explain what it means to you. Under the Nixon census the governmnent made Hispanic the official government term for Spanish speakers. Got an hour or two? I could go on and on and on...Wake up back there!

Beruthiel

Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 11:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Excuse me, Teacher, May I go to the washroom?

Tishala

Sunday, September 14, 2003 - 12:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Some Latinos reject the term "hispanic" because it refers to the colonial process and the conquest of the the peoples of "latin america"--which was called Hispanolia (but that might not be the right spelling of that word). The term Hispanic, for those people, is about forced labor, rape, and plundered wealth of indigenous peoples and cultures within the colonialist/imperialist paradigm, which also included foregoing indigenous religous practices and forced conversion to Catholicism.

Others don't care.

Luvtrash

Sunday, September 14, 2003 - 11:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
One of my students got into a really big fight with her history teacher over the term hispanic. She said none of her ancestors were raped by Spaniards. So for some it is a really big deal. And no, Beruthiel, you may not go! That's what lunch and break is for. And teachers don't get to leave so why should you?

Danzdol

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 11:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
ok here are my two cents:

I consider myself Hispanic and reject the term Latino because it has always felt a bit degrading to me, as bad as the word "spick".

I did like reading all of the definitions above and LUVTRASH I would love to hear your lecture!

I read in a magazine ,HISPANIC ONLINE I think it was,that Carolina Herrera, Venezuelan designer, rejected the magazine's offer to do an interview because she says the term "HISPANIC" offended her. This was interesting to me because I felt the total opposite way.

I think what bothers me the most is the term LATINO used in an English sentence. I don't mind it in a Spanish sentence because when you use it it in Spanish it actually means Hispanic. Sounds confusing , I know.I feel that if you are speaking of someone that is of latin descent ,then say "latin" (as in the Latin Grammys) or Hispanic and save the "latino" word for when you are speaking in Spanish.

Danzdol

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 11:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Also, I wanted to be the first Hispanic (Cuban) on BB but they did not call me back when I sent in a tape for BB2 :(

Beachcomber88

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 12:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Shows how out of it I am - I was not even aware that Robert was Hispanic. Doesn't even look at it! I would have thought he was pure American.

Ericzj

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 12:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
A nose picker is nose picker no matter where his family comes from.

Tishala

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 12:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Silly me. I never knew that "hispanics" were not "pure American."