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Kalekona

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I really don't understand what your argument is unless you dispite saying otherwise find nothing wrong with what Jun and Ali said or you just want to argue.

But your tone is a tade underhandedly insulting.. to use your own discription.

Wendo

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kalekona said, "This has nothing to do with whose child this is wendo.. you just don't get it.."

Well you don't get it either. Nanna nanna boo boo!

Our opinions differ Kale, we're not going to agree. So, I agree to disagree with you.

Smarty

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I heard the sequestered HGs can't see DR convos, so do they black those out when they show them the recently taped shows? Unfortunately, the taped shows have been pretty tame compared to the live feed conversations. Ali hasn't said one nice thing about anyone in the DR that I remember. Robert has actually complimented several of the players in the DR. It's a shame that they don't get access to this TVClubhouse site! Alison would be seen in a whole new light if they heard her saying Justin has a small wienie, Jack looks like a child molester, Dana was a bi^@h, and Erika is a f'ing s!ut. See, Ali DID say the same things Robert said. Is it OK for her to say them cos she's a woman, but not OK for Robert cos he's a man?

Bastable

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Don't forget Erika for hoping that Jun and Ali die in a blimp wreck. (Or maybe that would be a terrible thing to say only if they were both seven years old.)

Wendo

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kale, I've been MORE than clear that I did find Jun and Ali's comments regardiing Rob's daughter distasteful. Please don't suggest otherwise on my behalf.

And, I'm not arguing, I'm debating. Big difference.

Well, I'm not being insulting; only pointing out contradictions I see in this thread.

Lancecrossfire

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Please quit sniping at each other and baiting each other--now.

Wendo

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Smarty said, "Is it OK for her to say them cos she's a woman, but not OK for Robert cos he's a man?"

Nope, not okay.

Bastable, good point.


edited to add: You got it Lance! Didn't mean to go over that line! :)

Smarty

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo, there are definitely degrees of hatefulness.

Wendo

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Apparently so Smarty, apparently so.

But, who sets the degrees? Where is the cut off? How do we know when that proverbial line has been crossed? And, doesn't it get crossed at dfferent points for different people?

Hmmm.

Bondmaiden

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Justin had a small winnie? I need another drink.

Smarty

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bastable that's right! I thought it was nasty for Erika to say she wished they would crash and die. Robert looked appalled at what she said, so she quickly added, "Just kidding."

Gidget

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah and Nathan is gay. I wouldn't be too concerned Bondmaiden.

Wendo

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, Justin never looked like he was packing much...but maybe he wasn't wearing the right pants to show it off. LOL!

Bondmaiden

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LMAO Wendo!

Bondmaiden

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm so outraged by this entire show, I may slap myself.

Gidget

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I WILL not go so far as to say 'it's how you use it', size does matter!!!

This board is not for 7 year olds either LOL

Onlyhuman

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm sorry, what exactly are we debating?

That everyone in the house has, at one time or another said something hateful or mean? I think that the live feeds transcripts pretty much tell us that this is so.

That Robert said some extremely negative things about the women in the house and in general? Well, if you had forgotten, tonight's show seems to have reiterated it numerous times.

That Jun and Ali have been making extremely harsh statements about Robert, his daughter, his heritage and pretty much any insult they can think of in that given moment? Anyone can read the LFPs and see that.

That there is a notable lack of maturity in the HGs? Well, yeah, that's hard to miss.

What exactly is the debate?

Is it whether or not Ali & Jun's behavior can be justified in some way by the conditions in the house, the behavior of Robert or "the game"?

Are we trying to determine who is the biggest perpetrator of such behavior?

Are we trying to name the worst behavior in all of the Big Brother seasons?

I'm not trying to pick on anyone or target any posters, I'm just reading this thread and I'm seeing all these different arguments that are so circular that they are going nowhere.

Maybe a good idea would to have a debate thread for each of these topics, where people can post their own opinion on the topic using facts to back it up and are required to actually stay on that topic without bringing in a variety of miscellaneous information.

Just a suggestion that might be a little more fun and a little more thought provoking than this constant "He said this...", "Well she said this..." "Well when so and so was in the house 4 weeks ago, so and so said this..."

Then again, you all know that I just love to make looooonnnnnnngggggg posts, so maybe I'm just looking for another excuse.

Onlyhuman hurries out of the thread and hopefully off of the site before any moderators try to string her up by her thumbs for making matters worse...

Monalisahi

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I won't defend a word that Robert has said, he's been despicable too (in the house at least).

But I do see a difference between what Robert said of Jack's girls and what Ali and Jun said of Robert's daughter.

Robert gave an opinion based on looks....which he did see a picture of them. Was it right.....NO!!! Shouldn't have done it. I don't think any hg should talk about another hg's family members.

Ali and Jun called a 7 year old girl a name which is based on character or behavior. Neither of them have ever met the child. Their comment was far more mean spirited in my opinion, since it wasn't based on anything they had personal knowledge of. Robert or Erika had never told Ali or Jun anything that could remotely give them the impression that Elena was a b@tch.

While both were wrong, it is my opinion that what Jun and Ali said was far worse since Robert's opinion was based on something he had actually seen.

I'll say it again, I don't care for any of the F3, but at this point (and last night solidified it for me) Robert is the lesser of the 3 evils.

Bondmaiden

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh Lord, I may never recover from all of this. Should I write CBS, Arni, Sesame Street? I'm so confused.

Gidget

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You will recover and if you are like most of us you will start all over again next year.

Smarty

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Mona says: I'll say it again, I don't care for any of the F3, but at this point (and last night solidified it for me) Robert is the lesser of the 3 evils.

I AGREE!

Bondmaiden

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh do you think so Gidget? Maybe some medication would help. Whoe is me.

Gidget

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You will suffer some withdrawal after the final but it will be okay. No meds necessary. You can always tune in to Survivor to get your fix.

Friktion

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 07:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
GOD BLESS SURVIVOR !!!!

Csnog

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
For some it's called "Keeping Score".

It's pointless, in 8 days as it will be over.

Till next year of course. LOL