Pictures of Jun and Jee WAY BACK IN THE DAYS!!!
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Cinapoo | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 06:09 am     Guess we can't say "fat" on this board but we can say "heavy" and "overweight".....obese is the proper term. Can we use it? I will refrain from the word "fat". |
Jolly_Penguin | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 07:30 am     That is PC insanity. People with a lot of fat are fat people. Why must this be taken as so offensive? Short people are short people, bald people are bald people, ugly people are ugly people, why can't fat people be fat people? |
Meli456 | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 09:05 am     I'm the same height and build as Jun and that is what I looked like at 192 pounds, so I don't think the pictures look altered. I think its funny that she is so obviously stoned in a few of these pics! I can't believe nobody has mentioned that yet! In most of my pics from college, I looked like this too :P The last couple of BB's always inspired me to diet and exercise, but this one unfortunately hasn't. Jun's transformation to a glamorous sex-in-the-city wannabe is both fascinating and inspriring. |
Lancecrossfire | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 09:20 am     It has nothing to do with PC--it has to do posting in a respectful way to the HG's and anyone else. Figure if you use a word or a phrase to bash Jun, it will get removed. Feel free to read the rules. |
Llkoolaid | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 09:29 am     I am short and fat, you can call it what ever pretty name you like but it still makes me short and fat. My husband is in great physical shape. Does that make him a hero for staying committed to me? NOooooooooooo. What makes him a hero is that I can be a short fat bi#ch at times. Comments like that make me laugh, if size and shape is what a relationship is based on then it is not much of a relationship. "So Jee was responsible for Jun being overweight? I would suggest that Jun was manipulative and that is exactly why she, a 19 year old picked out some dumb 15 year old from her church group to seduce. I think it is called statutory rape." Isn't that being just a little bit harsh and a whole lot over the top. I think Jun is very pretty and Jee isn't too bad either, who knows what attracted each of them to the other. They looked very happy but like most teenage romances go, it was over, they moved on. They will probably rekindle their friendship after this is over. |
Lovedana | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 09:40 am     Yeah, I have to agree that this forum is way more politically correct this year. I can't understand, but I guess it's a private forum so anything they decide goes. I saw what was there before it was edited. I didn't think it was disrespectful. What I find funniest is the fact that Jun analyzes the appearances and fashion statements of the houseguests, yet we have to be careful about doing something similar when it concerns her. She seems to find it funny, and I actually enjoy her assessment of the other houseguests. I think she's right most of the time, but it's funnier because she herself falls short of the perfect look. She made me laugh a lot whenever I heard her assess them. She kind of reminds me of Marcellas with her taste in fashion, yet ironically she isn't exactly the perfect figured lady. It's in good taste and fun. I think we should be able to do the same as Jun. :D All right ... now I'll be campaigning for the cause of lanky people like myself who get teased often. I got teased with all sorts of names, and no one to help me with PC. :P Hehehe! :D I'm kidding really, since I frankly don't care. Seamonkey, I see what you're saying. It could work that way too. I never thought about it, though ... I guess because that's not how I personally operate. I do think that Jee doesn't possess that kind of character, however. He doesn't seem like that type that's bossy (in spite of his occasional cockiness), would settle for less so he didn't feel threatened, or the type that would exploit someone's weight because he knew she would be insecure. |
Llkoolaid | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 09:52 am     Before anybody gets my post wrong, I wasn't commenting on the censoring at all. I like it. It has helped me keep myself in line when I knew better but posted nasty anyway. I remember when I first came here, I was used to other boards and thought shock was the way to go. I couldn't understand all the censoring. Well, after having a couple of years of nice friendly conversations with people who respect my right to express myself without fear of attack, I wouldn't have it any other way. I would never call anyone else fat, just myself. I tend to be the type of person who doesn't comment on a persons size period. It is really not my business and it doesn't reflect what I look for in a person. I am not perfect and I never will be, if I do become perfect I will let you all know. It could happen, right. |
Eliz87 | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 10:27 am     I prefer to use the term "kind of heavyset." I don't know why, it just seems more polite, but I know what you're saying JollyPenguin. Short IS short, tall IS tall, ugly is, well, relative, but I just think calling someone "fat" is a little rude, so that is why I prefer "heavyset." |
Landi | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 11:16 am     ^5's to llkoolaid! i'm a sfb too! and my husband (married for 15 years) loves me skinny, loves me fat, just plain loves me... he thinks i'm beautiful just because of who i am! i wasn't a jun fan, but thanks to this thread i am sticking to her! |
Jolly_Penguin | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 11:47 am     That's great Landi, and as it should be. As a society we base way too much emphasis on appearances. How somebody looks should not be what makes you like or dislike them. But fat is fat. If we are talking about physical descriptions and a person is fat, I see nothing wrong with saying so. It is descriptive, and not meant to offend. If they take offense to it, that is their problem and not the speaker's. Do short people get all upset when you call them short? Or bald people when you call them bald? Not that I've noticed. And for the record, I don't dislike Jun because she is fat. I dislike her for other reasons... |
Eliz87 | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 12:24 pm     I don't think Jun is fat. She's just not rail-thin. I would classify her as slender, when she's dressed. |
Eliz87 | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 12:42 pm     Oh, and when she has a bikini on, I STILL wouldn't call her fat. Not skinny either, but what does it matter? I highly commend Jun for losing the weight. Losing weight and keeping it off is one life's greatest challenges if you are not blessed with good genes. I personally thought she looked fine in the old pictures, but she made a choice to lose the weight and she did it. Go Jun! |
Bogiesgal | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 07:10 am     Back to the topic at hand - I don't care if Jun is heavy or thin - she is still one of the most self-absorbed, condescending, arrogant hateful people I have seen on BB - ever. The difference between Ali and Jun is that Ali was obviously raised by parents who spoiled her rotten and forgot to teach her about moral compassion. Therefore her egomanical behavior is somewhat forgivable. Jun is just plain bitchy. |
Justshirley | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 07:22 am     Okay -- I hate (really, really hate) to sound like I'm defending Jun here, and I really don't agree with you that Ali's behavior is "somewhat forgivable" because her parents spoiled her rotten. But, if you're going to give Ali a free pass because she was spoiled by her parents, you'll have to issue one to Jun, as well. Jun has said that she was raised by her grandmother in Korea for the first 3 years of her life, and then came to the US to rejoin her parents. She said that she didn't even really know who her parents were and she reacted very badly to them because she missed her grandmother. Jun said that her parents spoiled her rotten as a result, in an attempt to get her to like them. Again -- I don't believe that this is an excuse for EITHER of these girls' behavior -- just pointing it out since you used it as criteria. Oh, and topic? I think Jun should be very proud of her weight loss, and seeing these "before" pictures gives me new insight into why she feels so comfortable with her body now, imperfect though it may be. That being said, I absolutely agree with you that "she is still one of the most self-absorbed, condescending, arrogant hateful people I have seen on BB - ever." |
Ddr1135 | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 10:37 am     I just wonder if her attitude about others was less judgemental before her weight loss? This morning Ali and Jun were blasting Erika yet again, even to the point of saying her DOGS were ugly! My gosh....where does it end? |
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