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Mustang7

Friday, September 12, 2003 - 03:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If I were gonna add a twist for next years BB5, I Personally think the HOH should have more responsibilities. How about if there was a list of HOH competitions & the current HOH picked from the list for the following week to keep CBS from having any influence. And, Make the HOH room off limits to everyone except the current HOH. Very Private. In there there would be live feeds like we see, but with NO Foth. They would also have the ability to listen to any one of the other housguests mics at any time they are in there, * here is the twist. They can't tell the other HGs about there abilities to see & hear them ( automatic eviction if they try to tell). This way only people that have been HOH would know & thus they would try harder to win . I would also say that they should have to nominate 3 instead of 2 in the beggining & you can't be nominated 2 weeks in a row till late in the game. Then those 3 compete in a secret Veto where the others don't know who won. When they vote, if they vote for the veto holding HG, their vote is Null. Hope this kinda makes sense, just a few thoughts I was having :)

Kailas

Friday, September 12, 2003 - 04:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Great idea, Mustang! Making HOH more meaningful and singular!!! Very well thought out!

Right now it is just a meeting room for everyone...and a den of iniquity for the darkest plots to be hatched.

I thought the original idea was for it to give privacy. It surely isn't used that way.

Busydizzle

Friday, September 12, 2003 - 05:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, Kailas, it still does give privacy in a way - both to the HoH and the people he/she chooses to talk to.

Saggkl

Friday, September 12, 2003 - 05:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I love your ideas Kailas and Kellirippa. I wish AC would hire you immediately. Oh and throw in Mustang7's ideas also. Now that would be a show to watch. And it would stop the players from being so blah, like they were this year.

Laffy

Friday, September 12, 2003 - 05:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i think america's choice should be that the viewers vote for who gets immunity from noms each week, that will help keep our favorites in the house longer and give cbs more income from the phone calls.

Mustang7

Friday, September 12, 2003 - 05:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, and How about Paying the HOH 1/2 of someones stipend for that week & make them choose who they are going to recieve it from. Taking money out of their pocket would cause some good drama and they likely wouldn't forget it :)

Kailas

Friday, September 12, 2003 - 06:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Y'all are good.............

Allowing viewer input for some immunity would keep us from having to root for one of three losers at the end.


As the present rules progress, it just makes sense for the...er...more unsavory HG to get rid of the ones who would be our favorites. Our input would help keep the more interesting players and keep us rooting for our faves to the end!!

Kailas

Sunday, September 14, 2003 - 01:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
......and what if.........

The HG and we knew in advance that 1 evicted HG would reenter the house every 4 weeks, giving early evictees more of a chance to be known and disrupting plans already set, AND allowing us to look forward to seeing someone like Dave or Jack or Erick have another chance.

Miggles

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 10:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What about this simple twist: Have the jury vote among the F3 instead of the F2?

Monalisahi

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 11:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
How about giving America a vote on evictions. NOT take hg's out of the mix, but America's vote would be an EXTRA vote. Of course, that wouldn't have made much difference this year since most of the votes were pretty one sided. Still, it might make a difference if they thought they had to deal with it, and in a future vote could be the difference of whether they were staying or leaving. (Personally, I would like to see those who have LF's have a little more input.)

Whit4you

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 03:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Mona that's always been the one I've wanted have US be a 5th wheel - additional vote. And yes it would have made a difference this year, remember several of the times the floaters went with the majority because they weren't sure they could get that one more vote they needed. Several of this years evictions would have been greatly influenced if one of the votes had been an 'unknown' - besides the fact that alot of times they couldn't vote the way they wanted because it would have came out that they were the traitor... but if we were to vote, that traitor vote wouldn't be a sure thing to be one HG or another.

Wilsonatmd

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 06:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've always said that America should have more than a single or tiebreaking vote, and that the jury should have more than an either/or proposiiton. I would use two things: a points system and a 50/50 split. Using the 7-person jury:

Each jury person gets 15 points to allocate to the 2 finalists any way they like: 15-0, 9-6, or so on (no splititng of points, the points they give must be full points): Total:105 points. Jury is sequestered, so they don't know everything.

To make people compete for the last HOH: Whoever is the last HOH gets a 5 point bonus.

The audience gets to vote, thru phone and internet for the winner. The % (rounded off to the nearest tenth of a point to decrease the likelyhood of a tie) is turned into points. Total: 100 points. Of course, the home audience knows everything, so they could change the game, and bring home the point that everybody IS watching.

Most points out of the 210 is the winner.

Example:finalist one was the last HOH (+5). The seven jury members give this person 8,10,12,9,8,10, and 9 points respectively.

finalist two gets 7,5,3,6,7,5, and 6 points respectively.

So far, that would make the score finalist one, 71, and finalist 2, 39. Looks like a slam dunk, right? But what the players on the jury don't know is that finalist one was a conniver, and is loathed by the home audience, while finalist two played the game "honorably". Thus, finalist two gets 75.8% of the home audiences vote, while finalist one only gets 24.2%.

Thus the final score would be:
finalist 1: 95.2
finalist 2: 114.8

finalist two would win the game, even though that person "lost" all seven jury votes. The home audience should have a say in sho wins, because, Big Brother is always watching, and everything is known to us. Downside is it might make the HG"s tone down their diary room entries...but we don't have to tell them everything about the final vote. Just tell them the final vote will be a combination of the last HOH winner, the HG jury, and the home audience vote...but they aren't told the exact combination until near the very end, AFTER the final two is decided. Let them think that the home audience counts for one vote and the last HOH gets one vote out of nine...and not nearly half the vote, as it truly is.

Kailas

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 07:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey Arnold.................


...and Alison, Are you listening?? We want to help!

Monalisahi

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 08:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wilson......AAAARRRRGGHHHH. Did you hear the Jee 3 trying to figure odds???? I don't think they could vote by this method....LOL, just kidding.

Caycaye

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 09:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Wilsononmd...or at least SOME kind of way to have viewer participation. I thought from day 1 of BB2 that CBS should have allowed the viewers to count for "a vote", along with the other houseguests. I also agree with the person who suggested that the jury should select a winner from F3 not F2...

PLEASE read these and LISTEN Mr. Shapiro.

This year really wore me out, rather than enjoying the show, I spent most of the last few weeks feeling ripped off, and not so interested in next year. I will give it a chance though.

Oscrapit

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There are a lot of great ideas on this thread. Here's a couple of mine, but I came up with them while tossing and turning in bed because I can't sleep (argh!).

Get rid of the veto. I can't imagine anyone using it to save anyone but themselves after Gerry's and Nathan's use. So....

HOH makes the nominations. Everyone competes in an immunity contest. If HOH wins, the nominations stand. If one of the nominated gets immunity, s/he is removed from the block and HOH nominates someone else. If anybody else gets immunity, the nominations stand and that person doesn't have to be worried about being put up. I think (in my sleep deprived state) that no one would throw the competition for fear of being put up or having someone in their alliance put up.

Secondary idea, if one of the nominated gets immunity, the loser of the contest becomes the replacement nominee. That would force everyone to play hard!

Carrie92

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 11:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Since they are so obsessed with throwing PB&J into the mix... Why not make the HG's bid how many PB&J's they will eat to win the veto? Veto goes to highest bidder, but they MUST have eaten x amount of PBJ's by eviction time, or else they don't win it, and no one else does either.

Next year's show will be called Big Brother 5: The PBJ Factor! (cue dramatic music)

Slothkitten

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 05:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Carrie...lol..instead of the mime, Mr.Peanut can pay the hgs a visit,heh

Kailas

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 10:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wasn't there a bid on how many weeks the house would eat PBJ last year??

Carrie, your idea is much more fair!

Sia

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 11:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
A real twist? Call the whole thing a "do-over" and let the non-jury members vote for a winner among the jury members!!! :)

Monalisahi

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 11:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I posted this in another thread, but I think it also belongs here.

How about if they had America vote each week for the strongest or best player. Then that person could not be evicted. That way we could keep some strong players in the game, and those trying to "keep under the radar" are not safe. Also would make the hg's compete in each challenge to go for America's vote.

Each year we hear talk about so-and-so being the best player because they made it to the final 2, when actually that player has at some point voted for, nominated, or campaigned against the person they viewed as the strongest player in the game. We are left with people who "got by."

Tunape

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 01:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I like Carrie92's PB&J idea, with the following changes/additions:

Bid for PB&J or other undesirable food item.

Winning bidder must eat in front of 1-2 persons selected by BB, by midnight the night before voting is done ( by Mon. or Tues. midnight ).

If the person does not eat the amount bid, he/she loses the veto AND has to eat the food for the entire following week (in house or sequestered house if being evicted).

This would remove HG from trying to block others from getting the veto by bidding and not planning to follow through -- attempting to block all others from getting the veto with very little consequences.

Also, I don't think that there should have been a "Diamond Veto" when there were 4 or less HG left. HOH was supposed to be the most powerful position and this year it made the HOH position worthless and gave all of the game power to that one person. There was no "BB game" after that! (Especially since two of the three remaining persons lived in "snow" areas and one lived where there usually was never snow. Big Brother's influence on how the game would end?)

Kailas

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 06:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I love the "America Vote" on the best or strongest player each week, Mona Lisa!

It would definitely make a difference.

The present way of doing business on BB only gets the better strategists an early target on their backs.

We are left with only the worst liars and hangers-on.

Miggles

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 12:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
In the vein of America having veto power in some weeks, what about the idea of America getting to nominate 1 eviction candidate (other still nom'd by HoH) during some weeks. This could really turn the house upside down!

Cjeanne

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 09:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bring back all the other people and let America pick the winner because it would not be these two sneakly dirty nasty girls...that would be a great twist..

Seanflynn2003

Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 09:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Please, please never let outsiders vote. It would ruin the fun.
My suggestion: when it is down to the final three, the one of the remaining HGs who won the most HoH & POV (POV would only count if they used it) automatically makes it to the final two as an incentive for having tried to gain power rather than avoiding it.
The other two would then battle it out for the other position in some kind of multiple stage contest.

Kailas

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 06:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Seanflynn, wouldn't we still have ended up with Alison if the one who won the most competitions automatically was in final 3????

Bec21969

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 08:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the mime should have a greater role. I loved how he tormented Alison. Reading the live feeds was so hilarious. I am not sure how to make it a twist - it certainly was entertaining.

Duncan

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 09:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
How about putting runaway teens in the house with their parents? :)

Kailas

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 01:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Duncan, you may have hit on a whole new reality show!