Archive through September 11, 2003
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Archive through September 11, 2003
Spunky | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 07:53 am     I can't think of a competition that would favor one over the other.. if it's physical or 'doing chores' like we saw before, I'm afraid Robert will do poorly. I don't know why I'm rooting for him now... and I don't know why I'm rooting for him to be the sole winner. I said somewhere else that I don't think it's fair to Ali that Jun gets by with an excuse like this: "I'll help you win HOH because I know you'll take me to the finals". So, she won't work that hard for it. This could only show the jury that Alison was really the stronger player, and I almost wish Ali won and not Jun. But these two look worse and worse to me that I still want Robert to win it all. (oh, how things have changed!) |
Cajunrambler | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 08:25 am     I don't know why, but I find myself rooting for Robert as well to win. |
Beachfan | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 08:47 am     I think Jun is just going to give up. She doesn't try very hard. And why does she need to? Ali will probably take her to the finals and Robert seems to hate Ali more than he hates her. I'd like to see Robert win. I really dislike Alison and while she has played the game hard, she possesses no redeeming qualities. |
Gina8642 | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 08:53 am     it'll probably be Jun - but no guarentees |
Katlady53 | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 08:53 am     I hope Roberts busts his butt to win. |
Crazydog | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 09:01 am     I wouldn't put it past Alison to take Robert to the finals with her. Jun really needs to win this HoH to ensure herself a place. I don't think Jun is going to give up. She had said that she wasn't going to throw competitions because she needs to win. |
Gina8642 | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 09:07 am     IMO - Jun has to win this HOH to have any chance at the 500k. If she loses and Ali takes her to final two - it will just look like Ali carried Jun through this game - and Ali may win. There is also no guarentee Ali will take her. She should not trust Ali! |
Justshirley | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 09:16 am     I really think that Jun just intended to give up on the endurance portion of the HoH comp because she knew that there was no way that Ali was going to lose. I fully expect to see Jun go all out on the next two stages of the competition. I don't think she's come this far to leave her fate in someone else's hands. |
Shonda | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 09:19 am     If Jun begins trusting Ali at this point, then she deserves to get her butt kicked out. We have heard her time and again say that even though she had a shaky alliance with Ali, she didn't completely trust her. Well don't start now!! Ali should do what is best for Ali and not care about Jun or Rob. And the same goes for the other two. Rob should never have let go of that key. What the heck was he thinking?
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Kaili | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 09:24 am     Ali will keep Jun. If she didn't, she would very well have lost her vote, despite how much Jun may dislike Robert. Ali promised her up and down last night and told her Do Not Worry. She didn't do that for Robert. She'll tell Robert that she never said 100% and she's choosing to go with the 1%. |
Steveh | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 09:29 am     It doesn't matter who wins this round. Ali will CRUSH them in the next one. Jun and Robert have no sense of competition, doing what it takes to win, etc. I don't like Ali, but she knows how to compete and she's savvy enough to know that she can win ALL the money now (esp. against Robert). Both Jun and Robert were DISGUSTING yesterday; that close to at least $50 grand and they just give up so easily. I don't care how cold it was getting or slippery, they'd have to pry my hands off that key (Ali's too) if I was that close to that much money. IRL, I've endured far more hardship for far less money, so I'm not Monday a.m. quarterbacking either. "BE A MAN YOU F**K!" Heard at my house last night (I was home alone) when Robert was trying to snivel his way into Ali's good graces. I've turned out to be a social Darwinist I guess. |
Onlyhuman | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 09:52 am     Steveh, I'm not sure that Ali can win the third round, since, like I've said in other posts, it is most likely to be the contest in which the HGs have to guess what the evicted HGs think about THEM. Ali's big weakness is her inability to see outside herself, as demonstrated in the previous HOH, where she missed just about every question that involved her. So I wouldn't be surprised if she did poorly in that contest. Robert's only hope is that Jun intentionally throws the second round (which she won't) and then he beats Ali in the third round. One thing about Robert, he has a pretty good read on the evicted HGs. Honestly, Robert was NEVER going to win last night, though I really wish he had been stronger about the whole thing. HIS biggest weakness is that he still hasn't figured out that Ali says whatever she thinks you want to hear. She says it so convincingly that you walk away completely believing her. With Ali, you have to read the other cues (tone of voice, word choice, etc.) and he is too blinded by his dislike for her to see beyond the surface. |
Wilsonatmd | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 10:05 am     well it's actually more even than you think....if they do it like the past, the comp will involve doing household things (clean the windows, make and eat a PBJ sandwich, put laundry thru the wringer) and a test of memory (put the HOH people in order, put the veto people in order, put the evicted people in order) Robert's disavantage is in the second part....he was dragging behind in the final Veto game (where they had to remember the nominations and put them in order).....but if he can make it up in the other sections, he might have a chance. that's his only hope, since if Jun wins part two, he's gone no matter who of the two women win HOH. |
Kalekona | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 10:23 am     if Robert can make it passed round 2 and round 3 is a what do the other HG think kind of thing i believe Robert will win. He may not have much of a memory but he did know the HG better than Ali in the last hoh comp. (better than Jun too.) I'm hoping for something that al least gives him a fighting chance in round two.... maybe he can eat those eyes again! |
Crazydog | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 10:26 am     Jun was unable to compete in that last HoH competition because she was the outgoing HoH. I agree that Alison will do poorly in round 3 because she always thinks everything revolves around her. I think Jun will kick some major butt if she makes it to round 3. She is very perceptive. |
Spunky | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 10:31 am     So, from what you all say Robert is the one who should win Round 2 otherwise he's toast!!! Jun again doesn't have to work hard since Ali will take her but won't take Robert. So, it's round 2 or bust!! However, if it's between Ali and Robert the final trivia, Ali may win and take Jun. Robert is kicked out. So, Robert needs Round 3 as well to be able to decide who to kick out, Ali or Jun. Wow! I can't believe I'm still rooting for Robert... Maybe I'm really thinking of his daughter in all this.. |
Crazydog | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 10:37 am     No, Jun needs to win. Never trust Alison. There is a chance that she will take Robert to the finals. Also, Jun needs to win HoH to show the people who are undecided between Jun/Alison that she deserves it. If she is simply brought to the finals by Alison, someone like Robert might say she has done nothing and doesn't deserve to be there. |
Kalekona | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 10:50 am     your right crazy she didn't compete, i stand corrected. |
Litafreak | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 11:29 am     Any news about what time the comp is today? |
Steveh | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 11:29 am     onlyhuman - point taken, but I'll weigh Alison's complete inability to understand the opinions of others against Robert's and Jun's complete gutlessness & still say Ali will win. Robert and Jun are choking under pressure; Alison is thriving under it. |
Spunky | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 11:32 am     Lita. Part 2 is on Sunday and Part 3 live on Wednesday. |
Kalekona | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 12:04 pm     ok here's how Robert can win... part two is dancing..... (one thing i think Robert could do for hours.) and part three is TV TRIVIA Circa 1980's!!!!!! |
Sunshyne4u | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 01:25 pm     As long as the THIRD part of the HOH isnt anything to do with MEMORY, the other person will have a fair chance. Ali has a photographic memory....it is effortless for her. She has already memorized how many stripes were on the walls, how many parachutes fell during that Food comp, what order ALL HGs were in during all food comps and luxury comps and nom/eviction ceremonies. Anything to do with memory ensures ALI an automatic win. ******* Like I said in another thread, BB producers should never have put someone with this GIFT in with other regular memory people. It is the equivalent of all the other HGs being in wheelchairs and Ali being the only who can move faster and more freely throughout an obstacle course. NO ONE would say that would be a fair comp.....yet this is how ali's mental memory abilities are naturally faster and precise than the other remaining HGs. I am really leaning that BB has chosen Ali to be in the Final Two (no matter what) |
Crazydog | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 01:31 pm     Part 3 of HoH will indubitably be along the lines of "Nathan said one of you is conniving, one of you is steadfast, and one of you is loyal. Who did he say is loyal". They have done this competition for the past two seasons, I don't see why it would change now. The hold your hand on the key has rolled over too, and no doubt part 2 will be some kind of obstacle course involving household tasks. Does Ali really have a photographic memory, or does she just say that? I know a lot of people who claim that and it just simply means they have a good memory. |
Squidward | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 01:34 pm     I hope like crazy that Robert will eventually win HOH. If not, I hope Jun does. If Ali wins HOH I will not be able to stomach another week of her lording it over the others that she has the power. I could strangle Nate, lol, he has ruined this show for me. |
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