Archive through August 14, 2003
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Archive through August 14, 2003
Bastable | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 08:42 pm     OMG I am really starting to love Alison. I mean, I love to hate her. She's so dirty, so unafraid to lie and use her sexuality as a weapon, so ruthless in the DR! I'm starting to look forward to seeing what she does next! She shaping up to be this year's Will--I wouldn't want her for a friend, but I sure do love watching her shamelessly play the HGs! |
Pannie | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 09:22 pm     Bastable, I thought I was the last of those liking Alison. After tonight, though, her shameless and constant reproach of Nathan was uncool. She will not be getting his vote! Oh well. ;-) She does know that she is on TV and is supposed to entertain us. 'you go girl' OK, off to go find shooting stars tonight  |
Wendo | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 10:26 pm     Why do you feel her reproach of Nathan was uncool? He WAS acting like a baby this past week. She's not in there to advance Nate in the game, she's in there to advance herself in the game. If Nate is stupid enough to fall for Ali's tactics, well, shame on him for forgetting that he's in a game and shouldn't trust ANYONE. Personally, I dig watching her on BB. Of all the HG's still in the house, she's the most open in the DR. She's honest in there and that makes it more interesting for me as a viewer. Plus, I think she's playing a good (if not a bit dangerous) game as well. The only other HG that seems to really be playing is Jun. I will admit, though, there are things about her that drive me insane. But, she is fun to watch. |
Moedog1 | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 02:36 am     From the LFs: Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 02:08 am Jack says Erika's a special person. Ali jumps in and says she really likes Erika, like a sister.. _________ LOL! This gal has no shame whatsoever. Erika wins HOH and immediately Ali starts shoveling the crap. Good thing Jack & Erika (and the rest of the HGs) can see through her attempted manipulations so easily. She certainly is some piece of work. |
Cousin_Jake | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 08:42 am     Ali's playing the game her way and so be it ... I don't like her but I guess she could care less. What continues to grate on me is her continual whining about Julie calling her out on live tv and that her wonderful boyfriend (who she says cheats on her all the time)will want to committ suicide over her (oh really? can we say "drama queen") All I can say is - when you hop into bed repeatedly with two or three different guys and it's broadcast on tv, don't cry about it when people notice. As Nate said to her, actions speak louder than words. |
Skypilot | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 08:43 am     "...she's the most open in the DR. She's honest in there and that makes it more interesting..." I think Alison is shaping up to be this year's Danielle Reyes. Lately, everytime she speaks (especially in the DR) I can't help but ask myself, "Doesn't she know that the evicted houseguests will eventually see this?" She will play a good game the way Danielle did last year but she will not win the $500,000. |
Mamie316 | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 08:47 am     I was even more upset with Alison when she could not even give a sympathy vote for Nathan. Too me that was the nail in her coffin for how I felt about her. |
Skypilot | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 09:11 am     One difference between Alison and Danielle is that Allison has already jettisoned her Jason Guy (Nathan)and I don't think he will be feeling very charitable towards her if she makes it to the final two--which she won't. |
Crazydog | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 09:20 am     Skypilot, I don't think Alison cares if they will see her DR entries eventually. She knows that they will not see it until after the final vote, and after that she couldn't care less. I can't stand her. I feel that she betrayed Nathan by running to Justin's side. The thing that I hated the most was that she acted all indignant every time Nathan alluded to her betrayal. She seemed very defensive and self-righteous and I am glad that everyone knows how devious she is. She owes a lot to Nathan - he risked his butt to save her. If he hadn't saved her, David would still be there and perhaps Nathan wouldn't have left last night. I just hate how casually she just dismisses her actions. |
Denecee | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 09:21 am     Alison is definitely one of those fake girls whom I would never trust but as far as BB goes, she is playing to win $50 grand. For sure, she can't be stupid enough to think she has a chance for the $500g's. I don't hate this girl and I feel a little sorry for her that she is so hated but I understand why people can't stand her. She has alot of lessons to learn in life and something tells me those lessons won't be easy for her. |
Skypilot | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 09:41 am     "I don't think Alison cares if they will see her DR entries eventually. She knows that they will not see it until after the final vote, and after that she couldn't care less." I did not know that the evicted houseguests wouldn't see footage until after the final vote. Am I misunderstanding what happens after a houseguest (and future juror) is evicted? I thought that what sank Danielle last year was that the evicted houseguests saw footage of her mouthing off in the DR and around the house in general and so turned against her, leaving her with only Jason's "loyalty" vote. I assumed that the same sort of thing would happen to Allsion. Is something different this year or have I been mistaken all along. |
Crazydog | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 09:45 am     Skypilot, this year only the final 7 evicted houseguests get to vote. Those 7 are being put into a sequestered house, where they will see sanitized versions of the show. They specifically said that the people voting would not be able to see Diary Room entries. So yes, they did change it because of Danielle. I think they were afraid that people would be very fake and guarded in the DR, and they want people to be catty and honest. |
Bracken | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 09:48 am     Skypilot - they are sequestering the jury because of what happened to Danielle last year and the DR entries hurting her chances of winning. They also needed to make the DR a safe haven so that the houseguests could say anything without fear or retaliation from the jury. The jury is sequestered primarily for that reason. Arnold in his latest interview said that they would probably show them the HOH competitions but little else. So jury members will only have the information provided by the most recent evictee to go on during their deliberations. |
Skypilot | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 09:52 am     Thank you. I did not know this. However, I can probably still count on Alison's boyfriend dumping her when she gets home--if he hasn't done so already. |
Kaili | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 10:05 am     You can probably count on Nathan's mom and sisters going to hunt her down. They sure didn't seem all that pleased with her. |
R151996 | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 10:30 am     As was reiterated by Justin last night, the only REAL alliance that Ali has ever had (since Day 2) has been with Justin. While she did use Nate, she would have preferred seeing Jack evicted last night. Once the Stooges decided to keep Jack, Ali's vote couldn't save Nate and she had stated her desire to vote with the majority. Regardless of the format, Big Brother is still an INDIVIDUAL game. The HOH format forces alliances of convenience to be formed. Two and a half seasons of history have shown that tight alliances usually don't survive very long. If Danielle had won the last HOH last year, would she really have handed the $500K to Jason or would she have taken her chances (as non-existent as they turned out to be) with Lisa? An interesting part of this week is how loyal Ali can remain to Justin without completely sacrificing herself. The ideal situation for Ali would be for Justin to win the veto and save himself. But it might be worth the risk for her to save Justin if the right situation develops. Ali can control her own destiny every week but one until the finals since she could win three of the four remaining HOH competitions. If Ali is counting weeks, she would have known that this week's HOH was the wrong week for her to win except to avoid a certain nomination. An HOH win next week with 6 players left would make her eligible to compete for HOH in the final four assuming she makes it that far. Unless Justin also manages to survive to the final four, Ali would likely be the odd player out that week if she is ineligible to compete with no veto available. To even make the final four though, Ali might have to save herself with the last veto in the final five. |
Bbspyqueen | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 11:24 am     <sd> |
Daisy | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 11:54 am     It makes me happy to know Alison is not a friend of mine! Those who compare her to Danielle are wrong. Danielle was much smarter, prettier and didn't try to justify her actions, ala Ali when she speaks to Nate. She tries to turn the tables on him and make him think all of her manipulating ways are in his head and she is truly a good friend who loves him. <sd> |
Cliotheleo | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 12:14 pm     My goodness Ali, I don't have a problem with you using your feminine whiles to try and beat the guys (and the rest of the girls for that matter) and if your man is the right man for you, he'll understand too (if not, you're better off without him anyway.)If I looked as good as you I'd do the same thing. But don't CRY just because Julie called you on it!!!! Be proud of your strategy! It's working! Sheesh! (almost had a cap but they cut to FOTH before I could get one) |
Prisonerno6 | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 12:18 pm     "Ali still griping about Julie calling Nate her bedmate." Ayup. Ali was oh-so-proud of herself using her sexuality to get what she wants in the house, but when someone calls her on it, suddenly it's tear time and "they're so mean to me!" "You reap what you sow" and "what goes around comes around" seem so apt right now. |
Mpls | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:02 pm     Well I guess I have to like Ali. Last night when Nate commented on her thick legs, she stated that is why all the "Black boys" like her. So as I am black, I guess by her law, I've got to like her. Damn that temptress!!!! |
Skypilot | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:07 pm     Alison's "sexuality" is vastly overrated!!! She has one of the goofiest faces I've ever seen. Her sex appeal is completely lost on me. I didn't even find her attractive at the beginning of this season BEFORE I realized that I couldn't stand her. I've noticed lots of talk about her using her sexuality to manipulate the men of the house and maybe viewers with live feeds have a better take on this but the men don't seem that receptive to her as far as I can tell--except for Nathan, that is, and even he became apprehensive about her, although it was a little too late. Justin has stated that she is very "fake", I don't see Rob or Jee showing much interest in her and she's too young for Jack (and he too old for her). She is the least sexy woman in the house. What am I missing? |
Auntiemike | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:14 pm     Does she have any redeeming qualities? I sure don't see many! I didn't care for her at the beginning and have become less and less tolerant of her immaturity. Boy, she sure is a manipulator and self-centered young girl. |
R151996 | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 03:30 pm     Since when is "playing the game" not a redeeming quality. Ali is pumping life into a show that without her might be dangerously close to life-support when you analyze the surrounding cast. Is Ali immature? Sure, to a degree. Not many just-turned 23-year-olds these days don't exhibit some immaturity. But don't confuse SOME of Ali's game-playing with immaturity; that's part of her apparent strategy to throw off the other players. And those saying Ali is getting what she deserves on the "bedmate" tag, the dictionary definition of bedmate is "one who shares one's bed; especially, a sexual partner". Using that definition, describing Ali and Nathan as bedmates is totally contrary to actual events. |
Timewaster | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 03:47 pm     When the show began, Alison was one of my favorites, but that was a shallow attraction based on her smile, mannerism and speech characteristics. Since then, of course, many of the things that attracted me began to repel me. I was taken by the way that Alison was not merely content to have maneuvered Nate into the black hole he deservedly did not return from; but that it appeared that she was somewhat taken aback that he did not think to thank her for all that she had done. Alison has become someone I love to loathe, but considering that the others refuse to acknowledge just how dangerous she actually is, I reckon I will soon resign myself to cheering her on to victory. Where is SuperJack when you need him? |
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