Archive through September 19, 2003
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Archive through September 19, 2003
Katlady53 | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 10:02 am     Way2prissy, can you imagine what Ali's former pageant co-competitors must think of her? LOL! I just don't know what to think about Nate...I really don't! For some reason, I have this feeling that he holds some sort of whacky sentimental feelings for Ali. |
Notorioussun | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 10:31 am     I heard Alison tell Jun that she didn't want to be in the house another week right after Robert left. She said for them to just give her , her 50,000 now and let her go home. She also told jun she is the winner and it was fine, as long as they both got to the final 2 which they did. |
Imz | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 10:36 am     Seeing an honest tear in Ali's eye would put a nice bow tie on this years BB. I'm all for the 7-0 rout. |
Way2prissy | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 10:58 am     Imz--Ali would have to have an honest bone in her body to shed an honest tear, right? That girl should be an actress! Katlady--I am SURE Ali's former pageant competitors are loving this game. I can see it now..."We always knew she was a backstabbing b****." and "I knew she didn't REALLY care about those abused women." etc. etc. It would be funny to watch them WATCH HER. Also, if Nate still has an attachment to Ali, I will be shocked. He has to know that she cost him the game. I think he's smarter (no chuckles from other members LOL) than that. |
Celticone | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 11:23 am     I think Justin, Robert and Jee will continue to vote as a block, for Jun to win. No way will Justin vote for Ali, and I think once they pal around for a week they will all re-bond. Justin - Jun (no doubt here) Robert - Jun Jee - Jun Dana - Jun (no doubt here) Erika - Jun (no doubt here) Jack - Jun (no doubt here either) Nate - could go either way, but I think he will vote for Jun, seeing the light about Ali from the others. Slam dunk...Jun. |
Elms | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 11:33 am     Celticone, why is it that you think Justin won't vote for Ali? She had his back in this game. She didn't put him up on the block when she could have (and she was pressured to do it). She wanted to save him the week he was nominated. He's aware of this stuff. The week he was nominated, he did say if it came down between Ali and Jun, he would vote for Ali. I'm not so sure he would vote for Jun. He wasn't a fan of hers. |
Needmylifeback | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 11:41 am     But, if Ali wins...wouldn't we be able to see her "Pagent" wave? (And air kisses! ) |
Katlady53 | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 11:43 am     Elms, Justin didn't seem to have too many positive things to say about Ali during the HOH comp the other night. All during the game, he talked about how phony Ali was. I could be wrong, but I think he'll vote with his bloc. |
Katlady53 | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 11:44 am     "But, if Ali wins...wouldn't we be able to see her "Pagent" wave?" LMAO!!! Not to mention her Barbie Doll smile! |
C1mag | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 01:24 pm     She wouldn't be upset at all if she lost. I'm predicting she's gonna win at either 5-2 or 6-1. |
Spunky | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 01:24 pm     Well, if the 7-0 won't make her cry... when she sees Justin and Dana's love affair in the Jury House repeatedly shown on the tv shows she will have a fit for sure! Jealousy or envy coupled with the 7-0 and 50k instead of 500k should do the trick. Oh Ali, how the mighty have fallen!! |
C1mag | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 01:33 pm     hahahaha Spunky! I think she's gonna do just fine with all that. |
Elms | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 01:42 pm     Katlady53, true but I don't think those questions will have much to do with how he would vote. They were based more on a personal level rather than game oriented. He did acknowledge in the comp that they had each other's backs in the game. That may be something he takes into account when voting happens. |
Sherri | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 02:02 pm     Elms - I thought Justin said he didn't have Ali's back but that Ali had his? Of course, my memory is for s**t these days! |
Scribe | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 02:20 pm     Curious whether the force of the pack (the Dream Team) or the antipathy for Jun will rule with Jee. I think if lwft alone he would vote for Ali, and if the statements he and Justine made about their exs means anything then I think Jee without any other force would vote for Ali. Justin I think would be 50/50 but for his new best friend bed mate Dana's influence. So I think Justin is weighted to vote against Ali. And Robert, I think he prefers Ali but then again there is that leader of the pack thing and with the followers reunited with their Leader Justin it could be 3 for Jun. Interesting to see if Jee and Robert can will stand on their own - either way they vote. Erika and Jack will vote for Jun - I think Erika liked Ali better but Jack dislikes Ali and I think Ericka might go with Jack - but then we don't know the influence of Nathan now since they are now bedmates - Well, this is all just my opinion - I know I am in the deep minority but I have liked Ali for some time and hope though doubt she wins - |
C1mag | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 02:35 pm     Jack won't vote based on who he liked. He'll look at the game. I think he will give it to Ali and so will Erika. I think that living with Dana and hearing her complain about Ali will only help Ali get a few more votes. I think Justin is gonna vote for Ali as well. Nate will definitely be voting for Ali. He looks way past hurt feelings and realizes the woman played very hard durring the competitions. |
Seanflynn2003 | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 02:43 pm     I think C1 has been right on most of his analysis this year, and he may be right on Allison winning (though I disagree), but he is WAY too certain about how it is going to go. As far as Jee, part of his decision will come down to a couple of outside factors: how he thinks Carmen will react if he votes for Jee vs. how much flak he thinks he will get from his home community and common friends if he costs Jun $450,000. We also still don't know how much of the show the jury will see and when they will see it. The more they show, the worse it is for Allison. My guess is that they will show everything broadcast except the diary room entries. If so, game to Jun. |
Elms | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 02:48 pm     Sherri, If I remember correctly Justin answered yes, that Ali had his back in the game. It's that type of thing that may sway him in her direction with his vote. Scribe, I don't see Dana having influence over Justin. I see it the other way around. I think if anyone had influence, he would have it over her. |
Crazydog | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 02:48 pm     If Carmen gets pissed at Jee for voting for Jun, then she's confirmed my impression of her as a vindictive, jealous person. She never has to see Jun, why should she be so bitter? I agree with Seanflynn about C1mag's prediction. I think you are too certain about Nathan. I think there is a possibility he might vote for Ali, but I doubt it and I would never say he is a definite vote for her. I think above all the thing Nathan will remember about Ali is that she stabbed him in the back. I don't think Justin will vote for Ali. Even though the questions he was asked for the HoH were more of a personal and not gameplay nature, it's clear to me that he truly dislikes the girl. Given their history I don't think he is going to vote for her. If he respected the way she played, his attitude about her would have been softer. He will vote for Jun. |
Spyder | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 02:53 pm     No matter what the outcome, it will be fascinating. This is definitely a year that could go either way. Other than the obvious Dana bias against Ali, almost every other jury member could vacillate. And, shoot-- Dana might decide that she shows more strength by voting for her adversary. I honestly don't have a clue. On Monday, I'm convinced that Jun will prevail, and by Tuesday I've decided it's Ali. Sheesh. Hmmm. Wonder if the same thing is happening in the jury house, or if everyone has made a firm decision by now? |
R151996 | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 02:59 pm     The only reason Justin may have not to vote for Ali is if he wants to continue a relationship with Dana after the show. If he is ready to break ties with Dana, a vote for Ali would be a good start. A Justin vote for Jun is certainly possible, but IMO is in no way automatic. Jack will like what Ali has done in the competitions when she needed to save herself. Jack will not like Jun handing the final HOH to Ali in such a blatant way. The comment Nate made about scores to settle was IMO about Robert and Jun, not about Ali. Especially since Ali did not go overboard against Robert in her eviction speech, I think Robert is leaning toward voting for Ali. Dana is a sure vote for Jun, and though Jee might want to vote for Ali from a competitive standpoint I believe his loyalties dictate a vote for Jun. That leaves Erika. A tough read but she may follow Jack's lead. I said this on another thread, but I don't look for either player to get fewer than 2 votes. Ali has reached her main goal--F2--so even a 7-0 loss wouldn't upset her. IMO the key swing votes are Justin, Jack, and Erika. |
C1mag | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 03:02 pm     Actually I'm not all the way certain Sean because I do feel that Ali could blow a couple of votes if she lays it on too thick with the jury although I think they go in already deciding. I just don't think this is going to be an obvious Jun victory. |
Sisalou | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 03:02 pm     C1mag said "I think that living with Dana and hearing her complain about Ali will only help Ali get a few more votes." I haven't even taken that into consideration but that is a very good point. I still think that Jun is going to win by a pretty wide margin but what do I know? |
Seanflynn2003 | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 03:02 pm     One factor that I think will determine it is the sense of how responsible the winner will be with the money, as well as how mature the person is. Apart from my personal bias that Jun deserves the money for having played the better game, my suspicion is that if this is a factor (it would be for me if it were a close call), it is another in Jun's favor. I also think that among personal qualities, Jun's working in the house and Jee's testimony about her sticking close to him during his father's illness will make her a more attractive choice. |
Bronxie | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 03:11 pm     Ali has one last shot at the gold...her final speech to the jury, and after viewing her eviction speech to Robert I'm expecting her to mention - by name - each member of the jury in "sincere and glowing terms", with lots of "admiration and love" thrown in. and ending with a sprinkle of "humble apologies for anything said in the 'heat of the game'", and just "yearning to stay in touch" afterwards. She'll get an AWARD for sure. |
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