Archive through September 10, 2003
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Archive through September 10, 2003
Gina8642 | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 01:43 pm     Erika's Breakdown details: (or at least I think this is what folks are referring to, all from memory...) I missed the convo, but it was on Saturday night (I think?). Erika and Jun(??) (maybe all three) were outside. Erika was really, really harping on the ex factor and how it ruined the experience, etc. Robert caught the tail end of the convo. Ali and Jun headed inside to do abs. Just as they were leaving I heard Robert tell Erika he was sorry if him being here ruined anything for her. I followed Jun and Ali to the living room for abs. They proceded to dis everyone else for quite awhile (this was the convo I listened to). In the mean time apparently Erika and Robert were outside having a pretty deep convo. According to what Erika told Jun and Ali later (in various convo.s) they (R/E) discussed his alcoholism. What was going on with it during their relationship. He aplogized for hurting her etc. She told Jun or Ali about one of the 12 steps in making amends, etc and that Rob was doing that with her. When Erika came back inside after about 30 minutes she was really, really crying. Jun said Robert was pretty red eyed himself. Erika joked at one point that that is what she gets for asking to not talk about the game for a little while. Anyway - her 'meltdown' didn't really have anything to do with the game exactly. Although she may have had a more emotional response due to the pressure of being in the game. And, Robert may have been trying to get on Erika's good side. But mostly I think, it was outside of the game. In way, I'm pretty glad I missed the actual convo - it was private and not about 'game'. |
Kalekona | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 01:43 pm     i had seen something about erika having a meltdown but can find nothing about it. |
Gina8642 | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 01:51 pm     One funny thing (if you think as pessimistically as I sometime do) happened soon after this. To set it up - Erika has a totally emotional crying jag (no, she wasn't sobbing, but she was really tearing up, etc...) Ali really responded and gave her a big hug and was trying to be nice to her, asking nice questions, etc. Jun saw this. Within about an hour/hour and a half. JUN has her own crying jag. She said she missed Bob and buried herself in her bed sobbing. Usually I give people with benefit of the doubt, but with Jun - I pessimitically thought she was trying to outdo Erika's little break down. Trying to show Alison she has a sensitive side too. I dearly hope I'm wrong, but Jun's crying jag was WAY TOO conviently timed. |
Cndeariso | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 03:38 pm     jazzcat, i was wondering the same thing but no one has answered you. so, i will pose the question again. what is the deal with the veto meeting? is it going to be live wednesday night or did it happen already? |
Sunrvrose | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 03:48 pm     Cnde, hasn't happened yet. There is speculation that it might be live again on wednesday. |
Saggkl | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 04:46 pm     I just want to vent, I hope they take the time and energy to pick a better cast of house guests next year, than they did this year. |
Punky | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 06:57 pm     Thank you Gina! Much appreciated. |
Dipo | Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 12:43 am     saggkl too true, lets hope for next year. this is too helpful of a thread to drop down. So many thanks for getting the board back up.!!!!! |
Scovanbar | Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 05:23 am     Does anyone remember last years final HOH comp? I keep hearing it was in two parts and I don't remember it that way. |
Meme9 | Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 05:53 am     Scovanbar, if I remember right, it was a 3 part HOH last year. 1. Boat-Key comp. (Jason-Lisa-Dani) Lisa won this part. 2. Household tasks timed comp. (Jason-Dani the 2 loser from the first comp.) Jason won this part. 3. Questions about HQ comp. (Jason-Lisa the winners for parts 1 and 2) Lisa won this and was the new HOH |
Scovanbar | Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 06:24 am     Thank u so much meme9.....now that u said it, I remember it...lol I just could not figure out how it could be just 2 parts. thank u again, driving me crazy trying to remember! |
Meme9 | Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 06:36 am     Your welcome |
Bohawkins | Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 01:36 pm     Chuseok, the most important of all Korean holidays, takes place this week, specifically Sept. 10-12. This holiday is to Koreans what Thanksgiving is for Americans. Do you think BB will doing anything special to honor these three Korean days with Jun, having previously gone "loco" with several Hispanic celebrations? |
Mich | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 03:17 am     jazzcat, Cndeariso this is direct from cbs site for you: "Will Alison use the Power of Veto? And if so, whom will she evict? Find out LIVE on Wednesday, at 9 pm ET/PT, only on BIG BROTHER 4!" It will be interesting to say the least! |
Fan3 | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 04:38 am     Why should they I don't think she is at all proud of her hertiage, 1 when Jee was doing his ritual she had to keep asking him question ie do I peel the apples? 2. she was making fun of Erica being devoted to her mom normal Family is normally #1 in that cutural and to talk bad of her mom on national tv???????? just my 2 cents worth |
Jamisinc | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 04:39 am     When Robert was speaking to his daughter he kept referring to her as, "mama". I have never heard that before. Is it a Cuban thing? Or has anyone heard that before? |
Lostintheglades | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 05:11 am     Living in South Florida I have many Cuban friends. I have never heard them refer to their daughters as "Mama" so I don't think this is a Cuban thing. I think it's a Robert thing. |
Ryn | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 06:19 am     Fan3 - Jun asked Jee how his father would have wanted the apples (peeled or not) - it was related to Jee's father - not the 'ceremony' But Jee is Korean born, Jun was born in the states, not a shock that she does not have the same cultural background as Jee. Not defending her as much as wanting to clear up the bit about Jun not knowing what to do with the apples. |
Hamsterlady | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 06:27 am     Ryn, Jun was not born in the U.S. She was born in Korea. Her parents left her in Korea with her grandmother to come to the states and start a business. She did not come to the states until she was 3 years old. She had a conversation about this with (I think) Ali about a week or so ago. She also said that when she came to the states she cried all the time because she didn't know who her parents were. They were strangers to her. So her parents would spoil her and she said that's why she's so spoiled now. Also, she said that her grandmother did make the move to the states at the same time as Jun but didn't like it here and decided to go back to Korea to live. |
Meemo | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 06:28 am     jamisinc-i'm hispanic and i call my daughter "mama" it's a pet name like, sweetie. i have heard several people use that before. by the way i'm from texas |
Watching2 | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 06:33 am     I was wondering about the "ma ma" thing as well. I do know MOMMY is often used for adult females, whether they're mothers or not. About a year ago a hispanic guy called me MOMMY while we were talking and I called him on it. He said he calls everyone that. I just thought it was weird until I heard it in a song when my daughter changes the radio channel on me in the car. I don't know if this will ring a bell w/anyone (can't remember the name of song or artist) but they say something like, "E-O Mommy E-O, andolae andolae (sp?)" I just had a thought. Sometimes get stuck with a name because of things they said when they were little. For instance when our oldest daughter started talking she would say "Sa Sa" for Sarah. That turned into "Sas" or Sas-so" and sometimes she still gets called that. Maybe "ma ma" came from it being his daughter's first word or something? Just a thought. |
Watching2 | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 06:33 am     Thanks for clarifying Meemo! |
Ezgoing | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 07:09 am     Since I see several posts here addressing this topic, I thought I'd copy my post from the America's Choice thread here, too. It addresses the 'mama' term Robert used when speaking to his daughter during the AC awarded phone call--hope this helps: (mods, not that you need my permission, but please feel free to remove this post if deemed not appropriate )-- I did a google search on Hispanic culture and terms of endearment which gave the following relevant information. Apparently, the term 'mamma' or variations of it are quite commonly used as affectionate terms when speaking to one's children. Remember how Dana used the term "Papi" as a friendly term when speaking to Robert (emphasizing the Hispanic/Cuban connection they shared)? Anyway, I wanted to share this with the board because I felt it was an odd nickname to use for one's child...now I understand its significance to Robert. http://www.yforum.com/race431.html THE QUESTION: R439: I've noticed that many of the Hispanic mothers/nannies at our local playgrounds address their children as "mama," as in "Come here and drink your juice, mama." It's used as a term of endearment, the way I might say "sweetie" or "honey." But doesn't "mama" mean "mother" in Spanish, as it does in English? If so, it seems a strange thing to call a child. I'm curious if the word has a special cultural significance. Or, am I just misunderstanding what they're saying, and it's a word that sounds like "mama" but isn't? POSTED AUG. 31, 1998 Cynthia, 37, white mother of two preschoolers, Pasadena , CA ANSWER 1: You're right. You have indeed heard mothers call their little girls "mama" and, if you listen closely, their little boys "papa." It's nothing more than a term of endearment. There are a number of variations: "mami" and "papi" or "mamita" and "papito" (diminutive). They are the same words you might use when addressing your parents, but they are interchangeably used for children (or spouses!) with great affection. POSTED SEPT. 21, 1998 N., 33, Cuban-American female, Miami, FL FURTHER NOTICE: My father used to call me "mamas" when I was younger. I used to wonder why he would call me this if I were not his mother. Now I call my own daughter "mamas" as a term of endearment. I believe it is a term passed on to generations. POSTED OCT. 6, 1998 Juliet M. 25, Hispanic female |
Alexia | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:10 am     Just a quick question - If Ali wins final HOH, will she be the first HG in BB history to vote in every eviction? I know last week she mentioned having voted in every eviction thus far and I was curious if any other HG from previous BBs had ever done that. Sorry, my mind tends to forget these little details as soon as a new season of BB starts. It took me a little while to even remember who Nicole was! *hangs head in shame* |
Tresbien | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 10:43 am     Has anyone heard Jun say whose jury votes she expects to get? Thank you. |
Spear | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 10:57 am     Alexia, that sounds right (assuming she uses the veto today). In BB2, Will was nominated many times and Nicole was nominated twice(?). In BB3, Lisa was nominated twice and Dani was nominated in the last round. I don't like Ali but she can present a pretty good argument if she wins the last HOH; she will have won the most crucial competitions (last HOH, last two POVs). The veto will have been used all three times she's been nominated. |
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