Blazehockey | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 07:38 am     I loved it when Justin told Ali and Jun right before he revealed who he voted for, " I would rather be stabbed in the front than in the back....I vote for Jun." Pretty much sums up the way they all voted, huh? |
Earthmother | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 07:51 am     Although that may be true, I was very dissappointed in Justin for making Jee explain his secret allience with Jun. He tried to make Jee feel bad when he did the same thing with Allison. I was angry with Jee for not calling him on it and apologizing instead. |
Blazehockey | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 08:00 am     I don't think Justin "called" Jee on it....I think he was kind of joking about it. After seeing the DR tapes Justin knew Jee was loyal to the Dream Team until the end. |
Earthmother | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 08:15 am     You may be right Blazehockey, but if so then Jee would not have apologized and tried to explain himself.. |
Kalekona | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 08:28 am     Justins "allience" with Ali was no way near what Jun and Jees was or for as long. Justin was simply surprised, and i think a little impressed that he didn't know about it. |
Cousin_Jake | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 11:07 am     - Don't forget - Justin told Robert and Jee about his alliance with Ali while they were all in the house. Ali referred to it a couple of days ago when she and Jun were rehashing events. She told Jun that the day after Justin and Ali had agreed not to nominate or vote for each other, Robert came up to her and said that he knew about the alliance. Ali said she was shocked that Justin had told them. Jee did not tell Justin or Robert about Jun. |
Spear | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 01:43 pm     I think Justin sometimes looks at Jee as a little brother, not as an equal. He made fun of Jee's speech patterns (which I thought was a little offensive) and would pick on him when they were goofing off in the house. I thought he was surprised because he didn't expect Jee to be capable of making a secret alliance without his knowledge. |
Thunder | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 01:45 pm     I have to admit, I didn't see why Justin was so "smart" and such a big "threat," at least until the questioning last night. He manipulated the vote when he asked Jun his question, something like "You took over the kitchen. Was that strategy?" Of course he knew it was strategy...he was just giving Jun the opportunity to remind his fellow bootee's that she put herself in the center of the house from day one, where she would have a perfect vantage point over all the comings and goings. He knew the kitchen was the key to Jun's strategy (much like the bedroom was to Ali). He asked this question so that the other voting HG's would realize this...and vote for JUN. |
Meggieprice | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 01:47 pm     The funny thing is- Ali tried to tell Justin and Robert anbout it and they flat out refused to believe it. That made me laugh as I knew they would eventually find out. Justin did sum it up perfectly- the difference in similar strategies that ultimately won the game for Jun. |
Denecee | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 02:13 pm     I like the way Justin handled the whole game, he was imo, the nicest. I like the way he did not run Ali into the ground like she probably deserved. IMO, I think Ali still loves Justin very much but knows he will never take her back. Their whole relationship reminds me of a girl my son dated. This girl was a compulsive liar and it took my son awhile to figure it out and then a little while longer to break the relationship because he didn't want to hurt her. |
Avrey258 | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 02:18 pm     Meggie, thanks for reminding me of that. I had forgotten that Ali tried to tell Justin and Robert that Jee and Jun had an alliance. Didn't Erika and Jack think Jun and Jee were in an alliance too? I remember Erika and Jack trying to convince Ali of an alliance. |
Meggieprice | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 02:23 pm     Yes, Jack and Erika thought so as well. The Jee3 were so sure of their alliance (and with good reason- it was the strongest one of BB$) that they were not willing to think it could be. Jun and jee did a good job of masking it with their fauz fights. In any case neither one of them was going to jeopardize their own game for the allaince, so it was not one of those legendary aliances like Jason/Dani, IMO. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 02:31 pm     Justin may well have asked about the kitchen part of Jun's strategy (which I think was good for her, along with her manicure work.. from the very start she was able to have one on one quiet convos with various people as she bent over their hands.. not to mention that both kitchen and manicure gave her something to do).. as a positive thing, but in the past others had talked about Jun having an EVIL strategy of cooking.. which I think is why Erika and Robert mutually scowled about that strategy. I feel that Jun worked hard for that part of her strategy and I don't mean just keeping people fed and planning and cooking, but she made sure to get out of bed every day so that she could start breakfast (and touch base with people as they staggered by to the bathroom). That was work. Others groaned and stayed in bed, only to get up when prodded and then ask "what's for breakfast?". Jack also made sure to be up every morning to start the coffee. Note that when Jack left, Erika took over coffeemaking but wasn't willing to be at all consistent about it, so often the few coffeedrinkers were up but there was no coffee ready. So coffeemaking wasn't a strategy for Erika. |
Prism72 | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 03:32 pm     I was wondering why Robert had such a look of disgust on his face when Jun was answering the cooking question. I still don't really understand what the big deal was. |
Coffee | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 03:48 pm     I also thought that Justin's words to Jun and Ali were right on the mark. Very true! A small sentence like that said it all about both Jun and Ali. |
Crazydog | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 03:57 pm     I am not at all surprised at Justin's comment. He made it extremely clear when he was still in the house that Ali was the most fake person alive, and that he didn't respect people who backstab. That is why I speculated that there was no way Justin would bring himself to vote for Ali because she represented the one thing he most despised. I don't understand why Robert had such a disgusted look either re the cooking question. I thought she answered it very well. Maybe it never occurred to Robert that it was a good vantage point and he only just realized then what it had brought her. I don't see anything wrong with the strategy. If she was going to go out of her way to prepare a special meal for someone, then if she's nice to them maybe they will be less likely to target her. You do what you can when you are in that house. |
Monalisahi | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 03:57 pm     Prism, I can't speak for Robert, but I thought her answer was terrible. She should have said, yes, cooking was my strategy, I felt it would be harder for people to vote out the person who was feeding them. Instead she went on about getting to see what people ate, and food for picky eaters. That made no sense to me at all. |
Marzz | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 05:29 pm     I remember a few of the houseguest, after the first couple of weeks, wanted to cook and felt that Jun had claimed the kitchen for her exclusive use. They commented it was their kitchen too and resented that she'd "taken it over". They didn't feel welcome to use it. I think that's where some of the looks were coming from last night. |