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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Hypothetical: Allison vs. Robert for final 2, who would you vote for?:
Archive through September 11, 2003
Justalittlebean | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 06:09 am     I can't believe that I would say this either, but my vote would go to Robert. I find Ali annoying also. Everytime I think of her and Jun, it's like someone is dragging their nails down a chalkboard. |
Gabbyone | Monday, September 08, 2003 - 07:11 am     Ali. Love her or hate her (I know, most hate her) but she has played the game the hardest! Robert has gotten by on the coat tails of others and IMHO does not deserve the money. Now with that said, I think the jury will vote for anyone who's up with Ali. She gets 2nd. |
Bomom | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 10:11 pm     After watching the girls so viciously stab each other in the back for the last couple of weeks (after pledging alliegence to each other), I have to say my vote now would go to Robert. Believe it or not, like him or not, he's the only "real" person left on this reality show. |
Wendo | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 10:36 pm     After Robert's performance, or lack thereof, in tonight's endurance challenge, I'd vote for either Jun or Ali, depending on who was F2 with him. The guy just gave up. Pathetic. One thing to give up after four or five hours, but after less than an hour and half? No way. Shows no drive to win whatsoever. |
Sunshyne4u | Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 11:56 pm     Yes Wendo ROB just gave up because he thinks his "deal" with Ali from weeks ago still stands. Robert had told Ali the only way she could win would be to take him to the end. That way the dreamtime votes would be split and either could win. Most people here have said who they would vote for if the final two were Robert or Ali....my vote would be for ALI. Robert just cruised to the end and frankly I hated all his anti female ranting. The worst for me was when he was asked in the DR what he would do with the money .....he said BUY a second rolex and a car. Wouldnt a GOOD father put some away for his daughter and name her first...Before talking about a watch! By the way.........I counted up all the VOTES by people here in this thread. Amazingly the results are ROBERT = 25 ALI = 21 It is almost split down the middle. It would be interesting to see if the numbers would be so close if ALI and JUN were the finalist??? |
Wendo | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 12:09 am     Sunshyne, I don't think he believes they still have a deal. He said as much right before he let go of his key. He only asked Ali to consider taking him to the finals if she got HOH. He even said to her that this wasn't a deal. That, should she decide to not take him, he would understand. But, he did tell her that if he won HOH, he would take her and not Jun. He absolutely doesn't want Jun to win ANY money. Also, before the above ocurred, he was about to let go anyway. He couldn't take the cold and he said his hands were freezing. Even if Jun hadn't let go, I think he still would've given up. I just don't think he has the disposition for endurance challenges. He just cannot sit still that long. Actually, he may do ok in the second part of HOH because it's usually task oriented and requires the HG's to move. The only bad thing for Robert is he tends to be slow. (ie: The last veto competition. He didn't even get half done when Ali finished and won.) We'll see. |
Mich | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 12:12 am     IMO when i see robert i see his daughter, when i see jun i see her family and ali...well i see b*. anyway, that's why i would vote for robert's daughter over ali. |
Wendo | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 12:16 am     Robert's daughter isn't competing. Robert is. |
Jhezzie | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 12:42 am     Geez...the lesser of two evils? I guess I would have to toss a coin. Yuck. |
Mich | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 04:16 am     yes but he's competing for her |
Missapril | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 04:25 am     IA, Mich. Every other HG this year has cited other important people and/or causes in his/her life and mentioned that winning would make it possible for him/her to advance the interests of someone/something other than him/herself. Everyone, that is, except dear ali. There's no doubt about Rob's loyalty to and love for his daughter, no doubt about Jun's family being a beneficiary of her largesse should she win, but nothing but doubt that anyone or anything other than ali would accrue any advantage at all should she win. It all goes to the question of character and deservedness. If I were voting it wouldn't matter who was up against her, I'd cast a vote against Ali before I'd ever cast one for such a selfish, self-centered, egomaniacal, shallow person to win as she. |
Mich | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 04:46 am     Missapril i couldn't have said it better myself. I've always rooted for the ones that consider others as well - they are the most deserving. I dont consider their loved ones as "sob stories" as i've seen posted many times in the past. ugh, i hate to say it but....(gulp)...even Will wanted to "take care of his friends". |
Sheilaree | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 04:54 am     I would pick Alison over Robert any day. It a game, and she played the game very good. |
Missapril | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 05:37 am     Very good, perhaps, but she hasn't played the game well at all. She's used others and not relied on herself or her own abilities and strengths. Kind of like a parasite. |
Reiki | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 05:42 am     Alison did manage to win a number of important competitions. She did not sit back and let others get her to the final 3. Everyones lives would benefit from winning $500,000. This isn't a charity event, its a game. In my opinion, at this point Alison has played the best game. |
Katta | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 05:48 am     Alison .... absolutely.... no question about it!! |
Gina8642 | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 05:56 am     Ali v. Robert? I'd pick Alison - in a heart beat. Why? If I think personally, or emotionally. I'd pick Alison. Why? Because Robert has annoyed me with his misogynists rantings which are IMO much worse than anything Alison has had to say. This guy insults Alison and Jun to their faces and still doesn't say - sorry that was wrong - I get upset sometimes. Nothing - he is just a jerk. If I think think totally based on game play - I'd still pick Alison. Why? Because she's played a much better game than Robert. Robert - despite that he likes to accuse everyone else of this - has played totally on emotion. His 'alliance', if you can call it that, were a bunch of buddies he could get along with. He never chose people he thought could help him in the game, he just chose poeple he ranted at less. All of his decisions on who to vote out or go after were made emotionally. First choice - Erika - Why? because he hated her for making a phone call to try to get him in trouble at work. Later in the game - he was obsesed with getting the b$tch Jun out - Why? Because Jun was a good player and likely to win in the end? No - because she was a b$tch, he didn't like listening to her talk, didn't like the way she treated Jee, didn't like the fact that she dared to switch alliances. Then his primary target switched to Alison. Why? Because he didn't want the woman who betrayed Jee and him to get to the end and he'd made friends with Erika again. Even though he knew going against Ali would ensure him the win. He justified it with gameplay to Erika, but it was an emotional decision. Recently, he has swung back to his hate of Jun. Why? Because while trying to woo Alison he emotionally began to think of Jun as the enemy again. It's all emotion with Robert - at least way more so than with Jun or Alison. His only good game move was to be the smallest target from his alliance. This wasn't done deliberately - this was done because he is a bigger jerk than Jee or Justin. |
Cousin_Jake | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 06:16 am     I think that Ali has played on emotions as well - they all have. That's why we have all the bashing of other hg when they're not around. Ali's done gratuitous bashing of everyone in the house as have Robert and Jun. I wouldn't base a decision on that. I would base it on who irritated me the most and that's Ali hands down. I really don't think she can beat Jun or Robert even though she still thinks that she can. That's been the major flaw in her game as it was for Dani last year - not taking into account the views of the jury, thinking that they would overlook betrayal and reward it with the big money. Let's face it - most of the jury feel screwed over by Ali more than they do by Jun or Robert. Looks like BB has it set up for a Jun, Ali final 2 and I can't see her winning. I think it will be a 6 to 1 or 7 to 0 result. |
Turnerama | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 06:51 am     I would definitely vote for Alison. She has been a target ever since she hooked up with Nathan and she is still there...I think she has been focusing more on surviving week to week than playing the game for the chance of 500K..but then she has been under the gun so much, I would probably do the same thing. Do whatever I could to stay in another week. Jun has had the luxury of protection from Jee thru the time that Jee and his pack were still in control, but once that option no longer existed, she cleverly shifted her focus and began to play a bit more obviously. Jun has always had the jury votes in mind. Alison realized when she got this far that she had no real chance at the 500K but who wouldn't want the 50K after all of this time..and at least a shot at the 500K? I have never been able to get past Erika's racist remarks at the beginning of the game about Jee. As for Robert..he has a daughter and uses those words to characterize the women? How would he feel if someone described his daughter that way when they were angry? And how clueless is it to behave that way when he knows his daughter is watching? For me, it's this kind of behavior that reveals the true character of the houseguests, not the game machinations, promises and betrayals. |
Chelle | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 07:51 am     Ali. I have liked her from the beginning. I don't think that she has done anything worse in the game than a lot of other people in the game. We have learned over and over that people with known alliances don't stay in the game with other alliance members for long. Ali played smart. Robert has done nothing in the game. He is only there, because he is the weakest member of his alliance. |
Bastable | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 08:13 am     Alison. She played the best game, period. She survived on her own while Robert survived by hiding behind the Stooges. |
Pengoh | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 08:26 am     Robert. I don't think Ali played a good game.. it's not a good game if everyone hates you in the end. |
Earthmother | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 08:28 am     ROBERT |
Realbiz | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 08:37 am     ROBERT! |
Katlady53 | Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 08:45 am     ROBERT |
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