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Archive through September 06, 2003
Crazydog | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 07:28 am     I get the point. You have a daughter. I'm tired of seeing him on the TV show crying about his daughter. My daughter this, my daughter that... enough already! Has any past houseguest ever cried this much about missing their children? I don't think I've seen any of the women even go on this much (oh, maybe except for Karen). If you don't think you can be away from your children for three months, then DON'T go on BB!! |
Blazehockey | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 07:34 am     I don't find Robert complaining about missing his daughter as annoying as Ali's " I miss Donny....I love Donny" routine. |
Earthmother | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 07:39 am     or Jee missing "his girl", or Jun missing "Bob"...ick, ick. I'd much rather hear about Robert's child. |
Crazydog | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 07:44 am     I suppose I'm only talking about the TV show and not the live feeds. We've only see Jun cry once about Bob, and I don't know if Alison has cried. It's the crying, wiping eyes and picking nose that is really annoying me. |
Whit4you | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 07:53 am     Crazy - he doesn't spend all his time talking about it, CBS just chooses to show all the times that he does. This week understandably he'd be missing her even more than normal since he's lost his buddies he could spend time with and talk to to keep his mind off of home. Plus he got all the things from home of hers etc. Yes there have been houseguests who went on about it more - remember Nicole? She went on and on endlessly about leaving her honeymoon for BB. Krista - with Laken, she talked about her so much that I actually started censoring some of my own feeds when she'd tell stuff that was not right to be telling. (She may have agreed to be sharing her all in public but the child did not) Dani talked about and missed her kids alot too. I think it's pretty normal for anyone with small kids to miss them - they are probably just focusing on it more with Robert cause he's male and it's a tear jerker I suppose for all those who don't know he thinks of all women (of which his daughter will someday be) as well you know what he thinks of women. Anyhow - I do get your point though and screamed it at my monitor several times during Nicole's whining crying over missing hubby. When I listen to these folks going on and on about this I think of the families of all our troops in WWII / Nam and even now - who have to go 6 months to 2 years without their dad/hubby etc. But then these people act like they have it the worst in the world when they are allowed to eat PB&J / mayo / mustard / ketchup / relish and on and on and on. 99% of these BB casts wouldn't make it two weeks on Survivor |
Gina8642 | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 08:26 am     Rob bugs the heck out of me. Rob acting like a baby during the pinata decorating bugged the heck out of me. Rob being so emotional bugs the heck out of me. But Rob crying, because he misses his daughter? - that's ok. If I was Elena, I would be really, really touched that my daddy loved me that much. |
Maris | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 08:31 am     Now folks lets not forget Tonya. Just because she didnt mention missing her five kids doesnt mean she wasnt suffering in silence and thinking about them constantly. |
Zgoodgirl | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 08:34 am     What threw me for a loop about Friday's show and Robert mentioning how the piñatas reminded him of his daughter, wasn't exactly what I saw on live feed. The decorating of the piñatas were done Tuesday night, the day BEFORE house eviction and HOH comp. Jee was there (decorated a Carmen dinosaur in fact). What I saw on the live feeds was just Robert throwing a temper tantrum due to the fact that one, Jee was leaving the next night and two, he was the next one to go. Not one word was mentioned about his daughter and how all this stuff reminded him of her. Now since this aired Friday night and BB obviously made it look like the craft session occured AFTER HOH (Jee was not in any of the scenes when they were outside doing the piñatas). I'm wondering if Robert was told to think of another reason to explain his attitude in the DR. But anyway, Robert is not talking about his daughter as much as Ali talks about Donny or Jun talks about Bob. In fact, the only time I do see him mentioning her is on the show in his DR sessions. I guess he thinks that having a child and loving her would not impress as many people as to who he knows and what kind of hookups he can get outside of the house..... |
Lorry | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 08:36 am     Divorce is unpleasant at best, and when a child is involved... it is horrid.. Seems Robert and his ex-wife have such a deep love and true concern for their child's welfare, they have made the best of the divorce for the child's sake... and it is admirable.. it is wonderful to know the little girl has two loving parents even if they are separated. I would rather watch Robert's love for his child, including the crying and whatever else he does, then to listen to Ali and Jun tear down the other HGs. I think each and every one of the HGs has had their flaws and their self pity parties.... so why not applaud the love Robert has for his child, then to tarnish it..... should she ever read these boards (which I hope she does not). That is her Father we are talking about.... and to a child... it would hurt to read these things. He loves his daughter... she loves him... we are privy to something special.... let's see it for what it really is.... beautiful. And let's not forget those children who do not have such a loving Father and Mother. Gooooo Robert!!!!! |
Gina8642 | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 08:37 am     Zgoodgirl How do you get the tilde over your n's in pinata? |
Stardust | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 08:40 am     These people are going for a chance at 500K, of course they are going to take the offer to go to the BB house...and I'm sure they thought about how they would miss their kids, it probably doesn't hit them of how much they will miss them until they are in the house. I know that I would jump at the chance at 500K if I had it, and I have a 5 yr. old, but I would do it because really it is only 3 months out of a lifetime, and if I could win that money it would help out a lot for my son and myself....but I know I would still miss him terribly, and would cry a lot being away from him. Robert is normal and obviously misses his daughter very much, in my opinion the tears he sheds for his daughter makes him MORE of a MAN. Crazydog-do you have children? |
Zgoodgirl | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 08:42 am     Alt 164 = ñ |
Crazydog | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 09:17 am     No, I don't have children, but I don't think that makes me unqualified to understand the bond between a parent and a child. Of course he is going to miss his child. I am just comparing him to some actions of previous houseguests. I think Lori, Tonya, Danielle and Gerry all missed their children as well, but I never saw them on the show blubbering about it half as much as Robert has. I'm also annoyed at the whole "Saint Robert" treatment he is getting. Just because he has a daughter does not necessarily make him into a good person. The Robert I have seen has been nothing but crude and despicable. Anybody can father a child. Yes, he does love his daughter, but I don't think that makes him an angel, and I am tired of BB trying to manipulate me into making me like him just because of it. I don't understand how the person who cries and picks his nose over missing his daughter can be the same person who rants and raves about all the b*tches, sl*ts and wh*res. He seems to me to be an evil person, except when it comes to his daughter. |
Maris | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 09:20 am     Crazy, I take it you missed the interviews with Saddams daughters on t.v. a few weeks ago. They clearly adored their father and he apparently was very good to his daughters as well (if you ignore the little bit about killing their husbands, that is). Mussolini was also very close to his daughter as well. Even the worst despots can have good relationships with their children. |
Whit4you | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 09:26 am     Well Crazy - having been married to an alcholic and having many family members as alcholics etc, I'd like to share with you that I do think there's some good in Robert. Very very very few people could keep on the wagon through this show, and apparently he quit so he could be a better dad. I guess since I spent so many years in the domestic violence program and have helped so many out of domestic violence abuse etc, that it bothers me that so many here seem to make this guy out to be evil and dispicable, just because when he's amongst his peers and frustrated and angry he says disgusting things. There are hundreds of thousands of men out there physically and emotionally abusing women daily - they make Robert look like a saint. I don't like Robert, not at all - but I just don't think he's as bad as folks here are making him out to be. There are tons and tons of guys who talk like that amongst themselves. Heard rap music? There are thousands of guys who can relate to those horrible degrading things about women - that's why rap music took over the airwaves. Anyhow - Robert is no saint but he's not as evil and dispicable as folks here seem to want to make him out to be. |
Maris | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 09:27 am     Even Eminem loves his daughter. |
Lorry | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 09:28 am     I guess if you can't understand how Robert can cry over his daughter and still call the women in the house bad names.... then you cannot understand how: Jun, Ali and Erica can use the same bad language, cut each other down, talk about Robert's private life, Jee's parents, and how Justin smells and is sweaty, Dana is a man, Michelle was dumb, Nathen was Gay, Jack was a pervert.... and then expect everyone to think they are better than Robert. I doubt any of them really feel the way they talk. It is all part of the game.... and we are the audience. They are like prisoners... would any of us be different in those circumstances? I doubt it. |
Crazydog | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 09:29 am     Oh, I agree Whit. I definitely don't think "hedadevil". I'm sure there is some good in him, but I'm looking at the closed universe of the BB show, and I think he is by far the worst person on there. |
Maris | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 09:34 am     I dont think Robert is the worst person in the house. I think he is crude and has little respect for women. If I were to pick one person who is the worst in the house I would go with Jun. While robert doesnt think much of women on the whole, he singles out the women in the house frequently to compliment them in a a genuine way. He seems to generalize about women and then when dealing with them one on one, he seems to compliment them and flatter them. Obviously the guy has some sort of charm that doesnt come off on the live feeds or tv because for the life of me, I cant figure out how an attractive woman like Erika went out with him. Not only did she go out with him but he was cheating on her too. I look at Robert and that is a guy I wouldnt even give a second look to. How did he get these women? I digress, Jun is the worst in the house in my view. I dont really care who wins this one though. |
Gina8642 | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 09:36 am     Piñata!!! Wheee.... very cool! Thanks Zgoodgirl!! |
Stardust | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 09:58 am     I just think I am having a hard time with the title of this thread "Robert be a man"...seems to me you think because he cries a lot and is emotional missing his daughter that he isn't a man. That to me is sad. And another thing, you really can't know the bond between a parent and child if you are not a parent yourself. It is something you just can't understand unless you have experienced it, I'm sorry. You might think you know, and you probably have a good idea, but you don't really know the feeling of being a parent. I also want to add that on top of Robert missing his daughter, he is also in recovery from alcohol. He is an emotional man who clearly is having a hard time being separated from his little girl. I understand you don't like Robert, I can get that from your posts above...but because he cries for missing his daughter he is not a man???? |
Gina8642 | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 11:07 am     Can I be completely stereotypical for a moment? Robert is a latino man. Latinos in general are much more comfortable than people of northern european heritage with showing emotion. Perhaps this is just a clash of cultural misunderstanding? |
Rainwoman | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 11:18 am     Robert did not apply to be on Big Brother 4. He is only there because of the X-Factor for Erika. Being approached, I am sure he thought it would be a great opportunity to be on this show, and would regret it if he turned it down. Missing his daughter is REAL. I am sure that he misses her, and I applaud him for mentioning her at all. It is rare that a father figure is present AT ALL in a child's life today! I am touched that he has such a special relationship with her, and I don't mind seeing him miss her "so much". I am not a fan of Robert, but I give credit where credit is due. |
Knightpatti | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 11:23 am     Robert would be less of a man if he did not miss his daughter! |
Beruthiel | Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 11:28 am     "It is rare that a father figure is present AT ALL in a child's life today!" <> Rainwoman, you're condemning almost every Father on the planet for not being around with such a generalisation, and I'd hazard a guess that most Dad's love their kids, and want to be around them too. Many divorced Father's don't get to see their kids because of the Mothers spite! We've got associations of men in existence who haven't seen their kids for years, and grieve for it, and have to fight biased courts for just a glimpse of their children, through no fault of their own. Robert is LUCKY that his ex-wife is a sensible woman who understands that children need their fathers as much as they need their Moms. |
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