Archive through September 16, 2003
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Archive through September 16, 2003
Monalisahi | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 10:36 am     I don't know why the majority are thinking Justin won't vote for Ali to win. They are from the same place, they dated, they know the same people, he knows her family, etc. I just think, especially in a Ali/Jun finale, that he would prefer to give the money to somebody he knows and bring the money home instead of giving it to Jun. I could understand if they had a really bad breakup or something like that, but I don't think that was the case. |
Gina8642 | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 10:39 am     Monalisahi - Justin specifically stated he would not vote Alison to win. While I believe he might change his mind - that was a pretty persuasive statement. Especially if you consider he didn't do much lying in this game. |
Crazydog | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 10:45 am     I don't think Justin would vote for Alison because he considers her the "most fake person" alive. I don't think he would want to reward that kind of behavior, because he obviously finds it disgusting. It doesn't matter that he knows her family or not - she certainly isn't going to be sharing any of it with him. I don't think he will be happy to vote for Jun but I see him voting for Jun over Alison. |
Meggieprice | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 10:51 am     And Justin is in a romantic/physical relationship with Dana right now too. I expect that will also influence him. Wicked me would love Ali to know about it while she is in the house! |
Spunky | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 11:16 am     Maggie, just what I was thinking as well. I'm afraid Ali needs that one vote, which is Robert's, but she's digging her own grave with 50k on it. Again, if she wins HOH she really did win most of the competitions and not Jun. I guess people would not reward for winning most comps but as who was the lesser evil. (I don't think Jun was the lesser evil, they're both on the same level) |
Onlyhuman | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 11:35 am     Meggie, that's the only thing I'm really bummed about right now. I cheerfully acknowledge that I'm a horrible wicked person who would like to see Alison suffer. I would love to see her justify to herself why Justin & Dana are engaging in a physical relationship that appears to involve actual feelings for the other person. I'm pretty sure that Ali would convince herself that it was only because Justin knew that she is with Donnie and cannot have her. In terms of votes, the Justin/Dana jury house relationship may influence the votes because it may limit the openness of the jury house in talking about the events in the BB house. While I DO think that Justin will have revealed to Dana Jun's statements about her, I'm sure he didn't mention what everyone else was saying, particularly the Dream Team. What's more, I think that the rest of them will be reluctant to bring up this topic, given their own participation AND the fact that Justin and Dana are involved. While I doubt they will care all that much about hurting Dana's feelings, I think most of them like Justin and will not want to put Justin in the middle. I doubt that they will have open conversations about the deal Ali made with the Dream Team to get Dana out (which Justin SWORE to her he did not make!) or about how they all blame Dana and Nate for Ali even being there. I see a lot of lies and misleading information being disseminated in the jury house. My guess is that this will be the one BB in which the answers at the Jury questioning will actually determine the winner. I think that Jun will probably win it because I think that she is the one most likely to own up to her behavior and not try to dodge and baby-talk her way out of it. My prediction: Jun: Dana, Jack, Erika, Jee, Justin, Robert Ali: Nathan (because he WILL believe her pathetic attmepts at sweet talking him) |
Monalisahi | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 11:58 am     Gina, But didn't he say something different to Ali? |
Surreal_Badger | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 12:09 pm     if jun can sound as poised and eloquent in the q&a session as she does in some of her DR sessions, she might be a more convincing 'winner' than ali, who i think might just come unglued under questioning from the hg's. well, maybe not unglued. . . but she always is so egocentric in her DR sessions. my guess is that an attitude like that might turn-off some of those swayable votes (like jack) |
Ezgoing | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 12:47 pm     Okay, I'll go WAAAAYYY out on a limb here I know, but I'm in a bold mood right now! Unanimous vote FOR Jun! Yep, I said 7-zip! Here's why it could happen. I think that in the jury house, without cameras present 24/7 and without having to deal with the stress of competitions to stay in the game, the evictees will be much more open and upfront with each other about what went on in the BB house. They have nothing to lose by sharing the truths of what was said, who deceived about what, etc including their own behavior. I believe a lot of bonding will have taken place, even unintentionally, and whatever grudges or ill feelings were present when they arrived in the jury house have had an opportunity to be addressed, apologies given, tensions resolved. They've had a chance to re-establish their connections in a less hostile environment. Remember, those guys are having a ball! No stress, no strategizing, no worrying about who might be lying to them or ready to stab them in the back. Just good food, good fun, good frolicking, and having the awareness that THEY will hold the power soon enough via their votes. It's all good! I wouldn't be surprised if they collectively decide that Ali may have been an awesome competitor in the official HOH, POV, and luxury comps (not that good in food though) but that she went too far with her deceptions and manipulations. Jun at least was generous enough to feed them all (sure, she had a self-serving interest but they ALL did...hers just happened to benefit every other hg, unlike Ali who offered nothing to the group's comfort.) "It's not whether you win or lose, but how you play the game." I think they will decide Ali deserves to win....second place. A vote for Jun is more a vote AGAINST Ali for some of them, but a vote counts regardless of why it is given. heh heh --sorry so long-winded. Waaaaayyy too much caffeine today! |
Gidget | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 12:51 pm     As some have said before, the Nathan snuggle bunny statement sounded contrived. I now think it may have been an editting attempt to throw us off on the voting possibilities. |
Crazydog | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 01:00 pm     I agree Gidget. It could have been as simple as the cameraman saying to Nathan, "would you like to see Alison walk through the door next so you can have a snuggle bunny?" I don't think he will vote for her. I don't think he likes her in any kind of sense. When you are in a closed environment, you take what you can get. Outside in the real world, Nathan would never get involved with Alison. |
Spunky | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 02:02 pm     Yeah, I can see how some of the jurors may think: Well, Jun was stirring up sh.it and divided the house but at least she cooked for us all. I'm pretty sure her cooking duties will help her clench 1st place. I still think Jun had it easier than Ali who had to fight harder to stay in the game. I would reward Ali just because she fought harder to stay in the game. Jun had no close calls, even when up against Dana, she knew she was staying and from then on it was an easy ride. Ali managed to get saved and save herself at the most crucial times. I agree, however, that her attitude will be her undoing. |
Texasdeb | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 04:37 pm     Dana - vote for JUN Nate - vote for JUN (she fed him while Ali got him evicted) Justin - JUN (she fed him - he KNOWS Ali for what she really is) Jack - JUN (she fed him) Jee - JUN (she aliened w/his team early on & she fed him) Erika - JUN (she tried to feed her - Ali backstabbed her worse than JUN) Rob - JUN (he's still part of Jee3 by golly & will vote the way they do) 7/0 JUN takes $500g / Ali takes $50g |
Monalisahi | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 07:50 pm     EZ, you may be right. This year's hg's seemed to like to vote unanimous. But, if this is the case, then I would have to say that Erika will give Ali the "sympathy vote." |
Spunky | Monday, September 15, 2003 - 10:04 pm     Now that I watched the last 5 tv shows I can see how Jun had such an easy ride compared to Ali. However, she has less enemies than Ali and kept saying how much she wanted to go to the finals with Ali because she believes Ali has many enemies (I think Jun believes she has none). You can tell her how confident she looks and must feel at this point in the game, so confident that she wants to throw the comp (or not try as hard) so that Ali can win and kick Robert out. She just had it too easy and I wouldn't reward someone who didn't fight as hard to stay in the game as Ali did. Unfortunately, I've got a feeling Jun is going to win. |
Marej | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 05:53 am     Ali "Played" the game the best and thats what the jury will be told to ponder. Who played the game the best; not who deserves to win--Jun. IMO. |
Crazydog | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 06:57 am     Marej, I disagree that Ali played the game the best. If she had played the game the best, then she wouldn't have gotten so many enemies along the way. This is the exact same argument people said last year about Danielle - that she played the best game and she was going to be robbed. I disagreed then and I disagree now. Robert did not play well at all, he was simply the smallest target amongst the stooges and the only thing he has done well in the game is to win that HoH to keep him in. The person who has played the best game is Jun. She has balanced her alliances to get herself ahead in the game, and she has managed to do so without ticking off the entire house. Great job, Jun! She deserves the win. |
Spunky | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:26 am     If it's indeed a skill needed to play this game, that is... letting others do the dirty work for you, then Jun must get first prize. She did that brilliantly. Still, I tend to reward those who managed to stay afloat against all odds. |
Missapril | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:34 am     Against all odds? Guess honestly and character are odds, not, huh? LOL! |
Spunky | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:46 am     I don't think you get my drift... |
Crazydog | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 08:48 am     I don't feel that Alison should be rewarded for staying afloat. She did manage to win the HoH the week after she was taken off the block by Dana, and eliminated her biggest threat, Dana. However, any one of her alliance could have won HoH that week and prevented Alison from being a target of Dana. The one thing Alison did do well is that she won that last veto competition, ensuring that she stayed in the game. However, even if she had lost, I believe that Jun or Erika would have kept her, because they know that she has a lot of enemies and is easier to beat in the finals. I don't think Alison needs to be rewarded for making so many enemies that everyone realizes you are the best person to take to the end. There's no skill involved in displaying the behavior of a bizatch. |
Jpgramma | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 09:04 am     I agree with others that see a Jun landslide. Dana - Jun : no explanation needed Jack - Jun: In a conversation with Erika where they actually discussed who they would vote for between Ali and Jun, he said Jun. He saw Jun as an ally at the end. He did NOT trust or like Ali. The man does have prinipals after all. Gee - Jun : If for no other reason, Gee is still good friends with Jun's brother. But there are plenty of other reasons as well. He's one who felt the sting of Alison's unnecessary lies personally. He's all about honor, remember? ;) Erika - Jun : See Jack's explaination above. E has also stated she'd vote for Jun over Alison. Robert - Jun : Hates Alison above all others. Remember it was his idea that Erika and he (with Jun's help) get rid of Alison next. Nate - Jun : by now others have had a chance to tell Nat how Ali tried to convince others he was gay as well as how she boasted and gloated at how she used him. I believe she's also told others now on the jury, how she threw that crucial POV comp that could have saved Nate. Add to this that Jack will have Nate's ear. Justin - Jun : This may have been Alison's sole vote, but because Justin will most likely realize that his vote couldn't help her win anyway, he'll opt to keep his current squeeze happy. The only reason to continue watching this dreadful BB season is to see Alison's face when the shut-out vote is read. Mind you, this final 3 has GOT to be the most dismal of all BB final 3's. There's NO ONE to root for here. |
Spunky | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 09:07 am     You're bound to make enemies if you score over them time and time again by using brain and brawn and yes... charm. Ali at least realizes she has enemies.. Jun still thinks she's a goddess. |
Crazydog | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 09:10 am     I'm rooting for Jun. I hope she kicks Alison's tail all the way to Timbuktu. But I think BB1 was the most dismal final three - I didn't like any of them. BB2 I liked Will and Monica, and I wouldn't have been that upset if Nicole won. BB3 I only liked Lisa. |
Spunky | Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 09:39 am     Same here... it was more exciting when we had a real favorite.. it was Lisa for me last year and so the win was fun for me to watch. This year Jun will win and it will leave a bitter taste in my mouth, same with Ali winning... I feel like they should all lose the money... BB saying, sorry... none of you gets any money... eh, eh.. that would be a great finale for me!! |
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