Blink | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:28 am     Robert seemed pretty clueless as to the actual dynamics in the house, especially the last week. I think he still thought he might be in F2 even after Ali won HOH! He talked about how he could "read" people and how good he was at persuading others; meanwhile the girls were laughing about this behind his back. I wonder what he will be telling the other evictees, and what his true take on the situation were and not just PC statements for the benefit of the remaining HGS. (as in telling the girls "That's O.K. you did what you HAD to do." after voting out Jee.) Even after he was evicted he seemed to not be very upset over having been "played" (maybe it hasn't sunk in yet?) Ericka had it right when she joined the jury house and asked "Who wants to pull the knife out of my back?" Somehow I don't think Robert will have the same grasp on Ali and Jun's playing of the game. |
Cliotheleo | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:33 am     Well, his opinion of Ali seemed pretty high during his interview and his opinion of Jun wasn't the best in recent days, so we'll just have to see if he has an effect on the Jury or they have an effect on him. I'm gonna go by the official site and see if his 'parting words' are posted yet............ |
Cliotheleo | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:34 am     Nope. Not up there yet. |
Blink | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:52 am     Julie usually asks the newly evicted houseguest who they would like to see as the final winner. I don't remember if she asked Robert. Did she? |
Llkoolaid | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 08:55 am     I don't think it will be Robert changing the evictees minds, I think they will clue him in, I doubt if his vote will be going to Ali. |
Monalisahi | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 10:06 am     Does anybody find it odd that a man who knew so little about what actually went on in the house (and IMO, it was the entire game, not just the last week) was so good at knowing which evicted hg said what about whom? |
Vealprince | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 10:20 am     Roberts position at #3 was purely by accident. He never had any clue about what was going on and EVERY time he tried to effect some sort of change or event in the house it was a dismal failure that he was usually the last to know about. He will vote how Jee and Justin and possibly Dana tell him. Not the other way around. |
Emdanzma | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 10:27 am     I think Julie just asked him if he would be 'fair' in voting or if he would hold to his threats. She never asked him who he thought should win. |
Crazydog | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 10:28 am     I agree that Robert finishing #3 doesn't mean he was a good player. He was simply the smallest of the Stooges. He won an HoH when he needed it. Otherwise he would have finished #4 and we might be seeing Erika win this game. I don't think he will vote in a bloc though. I think Jee and Dana are certain to vote for Jun. Justin may vote for Jun as well. As Erika said many weeks ago, Robert is a very emotional man. And right now, he is irritated with Alison calling him out. I think he will vote for Jun, but not because the others told him to. Even though he is clueless, he still has an opinion. |
Blink | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 11:05 am     I actually do agree with you Monalisahi about Robert being clueless for the entire game and not just the last week. I was trying not to sound too harsh. It's only natural for the prior evictees to look towards Robert for an accurate update on the "goings on" in the house. Taking into account Robert's over-inflated opinion of himself; I can imagine he will be sharing his insights as though they were (gospel according to Robert) true and accurate. He would do best if he listened to the other houseguests instead of the other way around. Let's hope. |
Kalekona | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 11:13 am     Robert always had the right idea.. just never in time or handled it the right way... Roberts ability in the game was unthreatening as was Lisa, Robert actually won more comp. than lisa or Dani did. (lisa just won the most important ones) His idea about getting ali pissed at jun was the right one.. only jun was better at it than he was. |
Missapril | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 11:16 am     Well EVERYBODY listens to Robert - he said so himself. People LISTEN to him! LOL! Yeah, we sure do and it's ever so amusing, when it's not downright nauseating... |
Steveh | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 11:22 am     Robert seemed clueless that he was being called out by Ali? He really did. He was just affixing her w/ his usual empty stare and bobbing his head up and down. I can't recall very many other BB contestants where there was such a huge gap between what they thought they knew and what they actually knew and with their self-assessment of how they played the game and how they actually played the game. Whatever he tells the other sequestrees will have all the influence of water on a duck's back. I think most everyone in the jury house made it a point to not listen to about 90% of whatever bilge he was pumping. He got to F3 the same way a fallen leaf gets from your yard to the yard across the street. The whims of nature and pure chance. I agree that he will do whatever Justin and Jee tell him to do and I think, more and more, they're all going Jun's way. In fact, I think she could win 7-0. The more I think about it, the more I can see now way that Jun won't get (at least) the four votes needed. |
Bomom | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 11:32 am     Blink- 'I wonder what he will be telling the other evictees, and what his true take on the situation were and not just PC statements for the benefit of the remaining HGS.' Robert???? PC??????????????????????????????????? |
Katlady53 | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 11:36 am     Any know-it-all baloney Robert might say he knows will hopefully be counteracted by Erika who was there just a week less. |
Monalisahi | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 11:40 am     I think it's pretty obvious what Robert will say to the jury, and I think it's pretty obvious that it won't mean a thing. I'm more curious as to what the jury will say to Robert. |
Bronxie | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 11:46 am     I agree with you Steve. Robert not only was one step behind the rest, he also saw the situation through rose colored glasses. Gullible? Ali evicted him with tears and a long hug...and then just before he left she gave him one more body hug to make certain he left on "friendly terms". And, when talking with Julie you could see how sincerely he lapped up all the nice thoughtful words Ali tossed his way. I really thought the things they said and did to him the last few days were were unnecessarily cruel...thank goodness he'll probably never know. |
Katlady53 | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 11:47 am     Bronxie, if he watches the tapes, he'll know! |
Bronxie | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 12:12 pm     But Kat, to really know what they said and did you have to have read the feeds....Ali and Jun (or perhaps it was BB) did a remarkable job of keeping those outrageous conversations off the TV show. |
Katlady53 | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 12:16 pm     True, very true! |
Blink | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 12:20 pm     Bomom- By PC, what I actually was referrring to were Robert's "tell'em what they wanna hear" ego stroking remarks. I too think being PC and Robert don't exactly go together! |
Juiceman | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 12:21 pm     I for one do not agree with this big 'clueless' commentary that goes on (seems this applies to every guest at some point, Jee, Michelle etc) Well, yes.. of course they dont know what the others are plotting and of course you the viewers do. Having said that, if you go through past episodes and in particular the convo's between the Jee Amigos - You will notice that Roberts frustrated mumblings (you need to 'translate' a bit lol) almost always turn out to be dead-on accurate. Not that they were always able to stop the events from happening but overall - Robert was usually exactly right in his predictions. There are too many of these little predictions to go back and transcribe but for anyone with patience and a good VCR finger - Robert was certainly not 'clueless' through this show. Besides - How could you know what ALison and Jun were planning when honestly - I dont think they did either! lol. |
Onlyhuman | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 12:22 pm     You know, everyone is talking about how taken in by Ali RObert was, but watching the tape, it is VERY clear that Robert was actually most touched by Jun's appreciation of their supportive talks. This is what he mentions first. Then Julie asks him a question about ALi and he responds positively. I think Robert appreciated Jun as a PERSON more than he did Ali and that is what will go back to the jury house. |
Kalekona | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 12:25 pm     your right juiceman.. after the michelle eviction robert always knew and voiced the other possibilities. His sure comments around the other HG were mostly bravodo as his DR enterys almost always included the fact that he could be very wrong. |
Steveh | Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 12:28 pm     I can't imagine that Robert won't somehow know about the NASTY crap going on in that house in the last week or so after the show is over. He'll at least read about it somewhere. And in that regard, Jun's "That b***h is never going to see it. Elena's butterfly? I'm sorry that b***h can forget about that f***in' butterfly. I'll tear that s**t apart." is something that, if I'm his family member of friend, he simply MUST see. |