A plea to Arnold Shapiro
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Gina8642 | Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 08:17 am     Nicole (BB2) never wore bikini tops around the house. She rarely wore her suit, but when she did it was a very modest one piece. I agee with Jpgramma - it would be very nice to see a brief explanation from each jury member why they voted they way they did. There's clearly much interest in this topic, since all the enthusiasts spend weeks after the show trying to track down this information. I think regular viewers would also be interested. Showing it during the final show would be good for ratings. |
Spunky | Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 08:21 am     Could it be that their vote is "self-explanatory" and this is why they don't waste any time in giving any reasons for it. I agree with some here saying, what's the use in making a speech when all they want to say is "I didn't like your backstabbing, etc.." or "I voted for you because you played a better game". That seems useless to me, their vote, one way or the other, would explain why. Sure we could have some reasons why, like "even though I didn't like you I think you fought hard to survive and this is why I voted for you"... or "I didn't vote for you because your opponent simply played a stronger game". Still, you must admit the vote is self-explanatory, their comments seem a bit useless, however great. |
Eliz87 | Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 08:23 am     I think Jun & Ali have played a similar game, so it WOULD be interesting to me to see why a former HG would pick one over the other. I was very disappointed last year that the HG's comments on the finalists weren't aired. I thought the BB2 finale was better in this respect. |
Gina8642 | Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 08:30 am     They had quite a few twists. -Every veto was golden -For the first time, there was a veto at final four -Sometimes the veto holder was revealed prior to the nominations -One veto was given to the highest bidder -The HOH was kidnapped and removed from the house for several days -Most of the HGs had exes in the house -The jury consists on only the last 7 HGs to be booted -The jury is kept in the jury house and not allowed outside influence prior to the vote. -Any thing else? I know all these seem lame to many in retrospect, but they were twists and they did have major impacts on the game. And, there were quite a lot of them. I think everyone who posts here is just too close to the game to see the impact (can't see the forest through the trees). Because of our intense analysis here we often have the twist figured out in advace so it really doesn't seem like much to us. |
Spunky | Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 08:37 am     Yes, another one... the fact that they kept the evicted hgs in the game, not only by basing their direct input in HOH comps, but also showing us how they lived and what their thoughts were on the remaining hgs. I thought the segments on the Jury house was a most innovative twist in this year's BB. |
Puzzled | Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 08:41 am     Next year, why not set aside a sum of money, like around $5,000 for each player, but every time they say the f-word or make a racial, ethnic, or gender slur, they lose $100? Give a prize to the hamster who comes up with the best activity or story, or anything interesting, instead of AC. Give a prize to the hamster who tells the least lies. |
Misslibra | Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 08:47 am     Stop sending banners in the diary room. Didn't like it when the public interfered with the game, well some of us don't like it when the DR is basically doing the same thing. I know it's your show and all but come on. And can you please find more regular folks for the show, ones without agents and who aren't LA bartenders. |
Bohawkins | Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 09:39 am     I agree with one of the proposals here, to increase the size of the prize. I watched the premier of Fear Factor last night. It was a five day competition starting with twelve people with one winner. It was all shown on one evening in a ninety minute program (including all the commercials). The prize: one million dollars. Last week I saw the show called "Pepsi Play for a Billion." They had ten participants with a million dollar winner guaranteed, the winner based on the highest holder of a pre-selected five digit number. Of course, the set up for this to be able to qualify for the final ten took many months of behind the scenes eliminations, but the final show was a one hour event. It was a lot of fun, because it had the twist of letting people opt out one by one by settling for cash amounts or the chance to play on. It got down to the final two; then they were offered $100,000 to walk away or take a chance. One guy left with nothing and the other a million. In effect, the guy who lost bet $100,000 for a 50/50 chance to win a million. There is something to be learned from those other shows, but most significantly I would think big brother would be enhanced with a much greater prize perhaps two to five million. This week, borrowing from the Pepsi show, Big Brother could do something similar with Alison and Jun, offering a sure prize of $200,000 to walk away or take your chance at what the jury decided. |
Tissy | Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 11:10 am     Do you think they really deserve bigger prize money ? BBUK only give the winner aprrox $105,000 no money for 2nd place either. However some of the previous hgs have gone on to earn much more - thanks to their exposure on BB. |
Bohawkins | Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 11:32 am     Tissy... it isn't about "deserving" the money. It is about entertainment. Certainly, not a single one of the participants on the Pepsi show or any of the people on Fear Factor deserved a million dollars for doing nothing (the people who got no money did the same thing as the winners did). It is mainly about chance and luck of the draw, even on Fear Factor where the person who goes first is nearly always at a disadvantage because the others see how a task was done, and then luck makes up the rest of the determination. Instead, all of this is about creating a thrill and it is simply more fun when the stakes are higher. |
Gina8642 | Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 12:13 pm     I think bigger monetary prizes are a good idea. I'd rather see the money go into the pocket of the people who are exploited for our entertainment than the producers behind the scenes doing the exploiting. I think there is a lot more money being made in the American market than the British (I could be wrong), so the prizes should be bigger here than there. |
R151996 | Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 04:21 pm     Third place should also get a money prize. The amounts could be $500K-$100K-$50K as in BB1 or $500K-$50K-$20K or $25K. Also if a jury is sequestered, HGs that remain in the game past the sequester point should earn a larger stipend per week than the sequestered evictees. The current pay structure of third place being equal to ninth place needs to be changed. |
Bastable | Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 04:23 pm     BTW, I think the reason the UK winners get so little is because there are laws there capping the amount you can win on most game shows. Any Brits here who can verify that? |
Coffee | Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 06:28 pm     After the X factor came in there really wasn't any more twists. The golden veto was carried in from the last veto last year. This year the last veto was called diamond veto but it was played the same. The other so called twists were just different ways of playing for veto. This has been the poorest year and yet they bragged a big series of twists coming. |
Bastable | Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 08:21 pm     I have my own plea for Arnold Shaprio: Please release BB2 on DVD next, not BB4! I want to relive Will, Shannon, Bunky, and Hardy! |
Caycaye | Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 09:42 pm     OHHH!! I totally agree with Bohawkins!!! The idea of more prize money....and the final 2 or three offered a bribe to quit...that would be GREAT!!!I also think that the final 4 should ALL receive more money than the rest. NO MORE x's....and NO MORE veto in final four.... |
Wendo | Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 12:32 am     I'm with Bastable...BB2 on DVD is a MUST! |
Tissy | Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 03:24 am     BTW, I think the reason the UK winners get so little is because there are laws there capping the amount you can win on most game shows. Any Brits here who can verify that? >> We have a few game shows here that pay out fairly high. 2 for example who wants to be a millionaire and the Vault. BTW C4/endemol make so much money from public voting/texting etc, people think there should be a higher prize money than £70,000 for the winner of BBUK. Personally I think they should raise the prize money, to attract `different` types of contestants and not the`wannabes` we tend to have. |
Tissy | Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 03:30 am     How could I forget Survivor is over here also. A cool million £ prize money - higher than US survivor. |
Gina8642 | Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 06:12 am     OMG - a million pounds??!!?? Where do I apply!?! |
Maris | Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 06:44 am     I agree I would buy BB2 in a second. |
Jpgramma | Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 10:14 pm     I started this thread off with one simple request. I asked AS : Want good TV? Ask each Jury member to explain, in a limited number of words/time, WHY they voted the way they did as they pull their keys from the box! SO.. may I take a moment to say : THANK YOU MR. SHAPIRO! I SO appreciate that you did just that!! |
Boberg | Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 10:21 pm     It's a first..I totally agree with everything Wendo said above...LOL! CBS could make some money with BB2 on DVD! |
Ric_Munoz | Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 10:24 pm     Death to the X-Factor! May it never show its ugly self again--EVER!! |
Beruthiel | Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 04:31 am     The last show looked as though the fans were heard and we saw what we asked for - Thanks Arnie! (Right on Jpgramma!) |
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