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Katlady53

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 08:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Gunslinger, are you saying that you think Dana is BB4's Danielle? That's sorta how I think of her.

P_Gunslinger

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 08:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, ma'am. Although Danielle played the game very well, her DR sessions did her in.

Bigfan

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 08:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ladies,

I have now found out why we all love to watch this show so much.......it makes us feel like great parents!! When you see these kids act the way they do you thank God yours are so great!!!!!

I'm a wonderful parent, I have a great son!!!!

Monkhead

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 08:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
We can start another thread about turning 50, which I, for one, am never turning....

I am one of those people who lies about her age.
I usually get away with it, too..ha ha

Kaili

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 08:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Awww Katlady- Happy Birthday late- My mom and aunt turned 50 last weekend. I know both would have packed their bags and waved goodbye as soon as the snipping, argueing, and backstabbing began. I can hear my mom now...something along the lines of "I'm too old to be wasting my time with this"- she'd rather take off on a canoe trip and watch the sunset.

It makes me wonder why the older set on the show even puts themselves into it. I mean, Jack can't be really broke and need the money I don't think- he must get pretty good retirement benefits from the FBI. I don't get it- why would he want to be there? I wouldn't want to be there.

Frogichik

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 08:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Dana had to go with J3, otherwise she would have been first on the list to go when the exes left. At least now she has a fighting chance. I also like the drama she's created, it was makes watching a little more interesting. The first 2 weeks I was completely bored! Now at least I'm interested. As much as I like to support the underdogs, I can't stand Robert. Also, I don't think Jee is that bright. Justin is definitely one of my favs and I'm impressed how he is with Dana. I truly think he likes her and is not just using her for the game. I also respecthim for the conversation he had with Ali after she was nominated (the one they showed last night) I watched the whole conversation on the live feeds and I was impressed with his honesty. he could have pretended to have her back or start a secret aliance, but he didn't. He was just honest and said look Dana helped us when everyone was out to get us and yes we are going to stick by her for that.

Tdot

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 08:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Gunslinger, I have a hard time believing that Dana's actions in Week 3 will affect her when she makes it to the final two...

Hobbs

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 08:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm not a Dana fan either, but she had to save her neck. The entire house wanted her gone. She was in the middle between the two sides. I think she chose the right side. If she had gone with the Elite (and they'd still be the Elite), they would have gotten her gone the next week, because they were secure with there numbers. Since she went with the stooges (bringing Jun with her) she knows she is safe for a few weeks until those numbers change. It is week to week in that house. You just have to hold on one more week and then figure out what to do based on the new HOH.

I still would have liked to have seen Dana and Dave as the first two in the "Out House". That would have been hilarious. He'd be chasing her around being a wise-a$$ out of bordom and she be telling him to stop p-ssing her off! That my friends is my big regret in the game.

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Hobbs

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 08:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
One more thing. She did an excellent job with the key order during the nominations. I think that's the first time I've seen so much thought into sending messages with the keys. It was great!

Dana, you get on my nerves, but you done good.

Minnyace01

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 08:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana made a terrible decision and here's why. If she would have stayed with the original alliance and voted out 2 of the ex's, she would have stayed until the final 7 at worst. Chances are that one of the Jee3 would have won HOH and would have put up the biggest threats, Nate and Ali. Lets say that those 2 are gone, along with the ex's, that takes us down to 5. Of those 5, Jun, Jack, and Erica have little to no chance to win anything (HOH or veto). Therefore, her competition would have been Dave and she could have probably held her own. If she would have been in the final 2, she may have pulled votes from both groups. It was a bad move.

Katlady53

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 08:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ladies, trust me, I never thought I'd ever be 50. I wasted the last few years of my 40's stressing over the fact that I'd be 50. Lol In order to make myself feel better about it, though, I went out and bought a new yellow VW Beetle on my birthday. :) To make my birthday summer even better, my daughter and I are going to see the Human League (my favorite 80's band) in a few months. :)

Frogi, I agree that at least Dana added some drama to the house. I was bored as heck reading the feeds the first few weeks! And I also agree that Justin does appear to be one of the more honest HGs...

Woodpecke®

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 08:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
No matter what Dana did during her time as HOH, she still has the same personality which got her in the predicament she's in. Her days are numbered. She will probably be gone next week.

Monkhead

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 08:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hobbs, outstanding observations. That's what I mean about her - she totally gets on my last nerve, but what she did was SO GOOD, almost indecent...

What555456

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 09:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't see Dana as Danielle at all. Danielle stayed way under the radar for a long time and made no real enemies. She did not win HOH or POV purposely. She did not want the attention. She was cagey, indirect, quiet and surreptitious. Dana is not playing as Dani at all, I don't think.

Dana is more like Nicolle to me. (It was Nicolle with Hardy, wasn't it?) Both emotional, but tough. Both willing to say what she thinks and take direct action.

Dana's problem is she does not have a Hardy to calm her down and help her gain finesse and strategy. If Nicolle had not had Hardy, she would have been out front and simply attacked. Never would have lasted as long as she did. Hardy reined her in -- of course then he got arrogant and caused his own doom.

Dana needs a Hardy. She does not have one. She is her own worst enemy because she plays on emotions and confronts angrily, openly and without consideration to the effect it is going to have on the others in the House who are seeing all of this.

Spunky

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 09:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Nate's move showed much more guts than Dana's. The guy knew he was losing all hopes of survival and yet he did it.
If there is anything nice to say about this BB4 it's Nate's using the POV. Finally someone who did it!

Maris

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 09:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana's Hardy is Jun. Dana takes direction from Jun. Jun calms her down and Jun also gets her going.

Bohawkins

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 09:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Spunky... don't forget Gerry used it to save the ungrateful Marcellus.

Cliotheleo

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 09:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yep, and their speeches were very simmilar.

Gerry said, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

Dana said, "Let she who is without brains cast the first hunk out the house." :)

Smokeit

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 09:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Im not a Dana fan by far, But this girl has guts, she will stop at nothing to win this. I give her much credit for doing what the rest wanted to but didn't have the balls to. Dana is a strong player I think. But I still dont want her to win.

Spunky

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 09:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
And I loved Gerry for doing it!! :) That was another fine moment in BB history!

Monkhead

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 09:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yup, Yup, Yup....guts/balls I say...Let's give credit where crdit is do- the others could not do it...I do not want her to win either, and I do not think she looks like a Man-troll either, I actually think she has nice looks!! But my heart belongs to Erika or Jack - wish Jack would come alive a litle bit!!!

Kalekona

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 09:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Nates move was stupid problem is he thinks it gives him power.

Dana made the only move she could for herself.
Look at it this way-her original allience shunned her for a week, tried to get her put on the block and then waited until minutes before the vote to tell her how to vote..She could in no way trust them- it was clear what they thought about her.
Jee three needed her and have been more loyal-she may have the mouth but unlike Nate she let the entire allience have their input before doing anything. The move to put up Jack (one of the JED)against Ali (the lost blondes) was a good one it effectivly split those inner alliences. and worked either way, sad Dave is going but i think contrary to what Jack is saying to Nate-he'll trust him much.

And why was what dana did a betrayal (and stupid)while Nates was couragous and the only thing he could do, listening to Jack last night was something...the reasons he gave for Nate using the POV were the same as theonesDana had in making the nominations...

Scandalousplaya

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 09:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Danielle did win the POV the second time around. She wanted Gerry gone because he brought racism in the house.

I do agree that Dana had to get dirty, because it was apparent that her original alliance turned on her and she was the last man on the totem pole. When you're back into a corner, you might as well come out swinging. The girl not only has balls, but big hairy ones.

You have to give it to Nathan, because he has not waivered in this game not one time. I don't think Nathan has lied (please confirm), unfortunately he has aligned himself with the wrong person (Ali).
Imagine if Roddy had aligned himself with the right people? A lot of people state that Chiara & Josh was his downfall.

I thinks it's funny that Nathan believes Ali is the smart one when in fact he is the smart one.

Dana did pull a "Gerry" because I do believe Gerry realized he was the last man on the totem pole and he used POV to gain power with the normal people vs the beautiful people.

Although, everyone assumes that she's gone in a couple of weeks...it would be smart to take her to the end, no one will vote for her.

Unlike last season, Danielle was well liked in the house until her dr sessions. In this season it is imperative not to angry any of the houseguest in fear that you will need their vote in the end.

I say Robert is the sleeper of the group. Quiet but deadly. Keep your eyes on him (I know you don't want to but...)

Maris

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 09:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Nate has lied in this game.

Telling the exes that Erika was going
Telling Dana Erika was going
Denying that he ever said Dana was going up next week


The only people that I think havent lied are Jee and Justin.

Cliotheleo

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 09:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
<<<<I thinks it's funny that Nathan believes Ali is the smart one when in fact he is the smart one.>>>>

Well yeah, Nate IS the smart one ............. if you compare him to the TURTLES!

His activities last night (see the "Nate attempts to ally with Jee3" thread) showed me he really doesn't have the brains to make it much further in this game. All he can rely on now is his "brawns" as he says and luck.