POV cannot be NOMINATED
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POV cannot be NOMINATED
Rob_Robe | Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 04:48 pm     correct or wrong? when in the history of BB have the POV holder been nominated??? my impression is that POV holder has immunity |
Zachsmom | Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 04:50 pm     The POV will not be announced until AFTER Jun's nominations. Whoever wins POV still can be nominated. |
Rob_Robe | Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 04:54 pm     my impression is that this week is going to be the same as last week... which is POV BEFORE nominations ... because THINK why HAVE the POV competition BEFORE NOMINATION??? i am hoping that it is before, hence Robert or Jee gets immunity and Ali and Erika would be nominated |
Zachsmom | Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 04:59 pm     Technically, last week they weren't supposed to find out who won POV until after nomination, but Jee told them he accepted,since he was the only one who actually took the deal. |
Texasdeb | Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 05:01 pm     Will Jun not get a chance to try for POV? If this is the case & she is actually planning to put up Jeebert than if Jee or Robert get pov she can put one of the girls up against the other guy & break the tie & still get a guy out. |
Crossfire | Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 05:02 pm     I would say POV holder has effective immunity, but it will cost the POV. Meaning you cannot protect yourself and someone else. Only one person gets coverage. |
Meme9 | Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 05:06 pm     My understanding is Veto has nothing to do with nominations. If the Veto is used, that person using the Veto cannot be put on the block to replace saved player. |
Jpgramma | Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 05:06 pm     This has been discussed in the POV thread, but I'll repeat myself here. Nom Ceremony is held before the POV ceremony. Unless there are new rules this year, the POV holder can be put up for nom. After all, having the POV doesn't mean you have to use it, even on yourself. POV holder has the option. If on the block, they can use it to save themselves, the other nominee or not at all. It's not an immunity necklace after all. LOL (Recall Marcie? He opted not to use it. LOL. Recall Amy having it when she and Roddy were up together and Roddys' attempt to bully her into using it to remove HIM. ?? ) so..June can just go ahead and nom the two males, even if one is the POV holder. If she doesn't, she doesn't really want one of them to go. (which I believe she does). ONE of them will go. Maybe not the one she wants, but at least one of them. |
C1mag | Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 05:07 pm     But cross then what would be the purpose of calling it a "veto" if you can't "veto" anyone? I think that she will make her noms via the plasma screen or not be told then the pov winner will be revealed to her. |
Karuuna | Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 05:08 pm     I thought this year all the POV's were Golden, which means the person who held them could not be nominated *after* and *if* they used the POV. So, they could be nominated and then used the veto, at which point they could not be renominated. It would be sorta pointless to nominate the POV holder, IF the HoH knows who has it before nominations. Then again, nominating the POV holder means they can only save themselves, so maybe it would be a good idea. Now my head hurts. Jun's only chance at winning the POV is if none of the householders guess correctly where she is. |
Maryk | Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 05:09 pm     POV holder can be nominated. If they can't, they hold too much power as they can save themselves and someone else and with only 5 people remaining, that gives the HOH no choice for their nominations. Thats another reason why there is no POV competition when its the final 4 left. |
Meme9 | Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 05:10 pm     Remember when Nate used the veto to save Ali...Dana couldn't put Nate on the block, so she put Dave. |
C1mag | Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 05:13 pm     meme she had already made her nomination and had not nominated nate before he got the pov. If you are not on the block and you get the pov then you can use it to veto someone off and you can't be nominated only after the first round of nominations. |
Smokey | Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 05:16 pm     I know this has probably been said somewhere, but are they announcing tonight who won veto, if anyone? And, if so, do they get to hear Jun's nominations tonight, too? Or does that wait till she gets back tomorrow? |
Meme9 | Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 05:16 pm     Exactly Clmag! That is what I was trying to say. |
Crossfire | Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 05:17 pm     C1: I'm not saying you can't, what I'm saying is that you effectively have immunity if you want, but if you use it on yourself, then you can't use it on anyone else. |
Jpgramma | Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 05:17 pm     that was once it had been used Meme. As C1mag said, in order to use it, you have to have something(one) to veto. hence the noms first. I like the idea of June making the noms from NY on the plasma screen, without knowing first who has the POV. |
C1mag | Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 05:19 pm     Ahh ok Cross. I get what you are saying. Yeah Jpgramma said it better than I could but thats what I meant. |
Meme9 | Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 05:21 pm     Yep, that is why I said veto had nothing to do with the nominations(I quess, I should have said first nomination). LOL |
Midji | Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 05:24 pm     It seems Ali got the veto. |
Meggieprice | Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 05:26 pm     No one knows Midji- Robert guessed first, then Jee, and then Ali and Erika. We know that Ali had the right answer and that Jee guessed a place so is probably wrong, but we do not know about Robert... |
Dan | Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 05:39 pm     They will lear who won the PoV after the nominations. Jun is mous probably going to make her nominations from NY without knowing who won the PoV so nobody is safe from nomination. She will probably nominate Jee and Robert as expected. Then, they will announce that possibly Robert if not probably Alison has won the PoV. Later, probably Sunday, they will have the Veto meeting with Jun back from NY. |
Spunky | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 11:55 am     Will she know who won the POV before making the nominations?? She can still put Robert and Ali up knowing she will save herself and then put Jee up. This way for sure no one can touch her nominations... |
Jc2003 | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 03:35 pm     I think that this is BB's way of "twist"-ing around who will be nominated and finding a way to notch up the perceived tension. Creating drama in the void, if you will. If he hadn't taken the deal, Jee might have known if someone else took the veto before noms. BB would have played up the angle "How will POV effect Jee's nominations? Will the POV holder use it on the noms or themselves? Don't miss the next episodes exciting nomination ceremony!" (OK- I had the narrator's voice from The Rocky & Bullwinkle Show Running through my head when I typed that.) I just believe that this is drama for drama's sake. The hamsters have been pretty boring since viewers really know what the past & present alliances are - and most likely who will go each week. None of the "devil" comments, secret alliances, and last minute revelations this year. BB apparently felt the need to ratchet up the high school drama factor. How appropriate that the drama queen won. |
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