Alison & Jun are making me embarrassed to be female!
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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Alison & Jun are making me embarrassed to be female!
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Spunky

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 09:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I guess you all watched the show and came up with this thread...
I just can't stand those two! Yuk.

All Ali gained in this game are lots of pounds and that's all she's going to gain.. She'll be gone on Wednesday!!
Jun should be the next to go and I do want Erika and Robert in the finals.

Ali and Jun.... go home!

Bondmaiden

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 09:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LoL, I got it the firts time R151.

Misslibra

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 09:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No you didn't Bondmaiden, cuz you would have filled me in. Your just saying that. :)

Bondmaiden

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 09:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
spelling error.- first time

Lovedana

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 09:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I still don't like Jun really. However, for some reason I don't have an intense dislike or even a dislike toward her at all. I don't like her personality, but I find her funny.

So I don't mind if she wins, though I would prefer she doesn't win. Second place is what I wouldn't mind if she won. Now, first prize would be hard for me to swallow if she won. :P Strategically, I thought she made a not-so-smart move with Jee's eviction (as opposed to Robert), but who knows.

On the other hand, I don't find Alison funny and don't like Alison really. She's so full of herself and living in illusion, so it would be nice if she didn't win any of the prizes. However, I still don't have this strong feeling toward her. I'm somewhat indifferent. But for game reasons and thinking, I would rather Alison doesn't win either of the two prizes. But again, I wouldn't mind if she came second place. So long as she isn't first place, I don't mind. I think she's a lot like Josh in BB 3, except she isn't as loud as he. And most importantly, she's tried combining Danielle and Will's personalities. The difference was, Danielle didn't betray her loyal ally until the end; and Will was pretty funny at some point. Alison isn't funny, in my opinion. I would say she's Marcellas, except she has horns (unlike Marcellas), isn't particularly funny, and makes no bones (i.e., admits to her nature)....

At the end, I would like Erika to come first place. It isn't that I like Erika really. She gets on my nerves sometimes with her phony cries and expressions, but she's the least offensive or bad. :P Then second place would be preferably Robert. Nevertheless, I don't really care who takes second place amongst Alison, Jun and Robert.

Steveh

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 09:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If you're keeping score of racial insensitivity, don't forget

Ali's "Native American" pinata complete with a scalp in it's hand. I live in Indian Country in Montana; believe me the scalp imagery would send 99% of the N.A.s I know up a wall. We won't even get to the silly one feather headband, reminiscent of the Cleveland Indians' loathsome Chief Wahoo mascot.

From LF, Japanese food is not food eaten by "normal" (Ali's exact word) people. Isn't that another way of saying that Japanese people are not normal.

Remember, I wrote "racial insensitivity", not racism, so it's also racially insensitive--IMO--to confuse Mexico with Spain. Yeah, Ali did that too.

For sixty some days now Ali has shown an abiding ignorance of and insensitivity to other cultures and other ethnicities. I know, I know; she's just "playing the game."

And, I'm sorry, she looked to me like the embodiment of the word "malicious" when the, with a mouthful of toothpaste, she spit out, "I f*****' HATE her." Foaming at the mouth like . . .

Cliotheleo

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 09:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Now see, you know what your all's problem is? Yall are missing the "love" part in the "love/hate" thing. You've gotta have a HG that you don't like, that's just the way things work, this year Nathan was it for me, but I LOVED to hate him. He kept me entertained with his over-all headcheeseness and I used to get excited when he's come on screen so I could go "ha ha! Look at what the dummy did now!" And when he left, the game just wasn't as much fun any more.

Quit letting it consume you. It's a game, you're not interviewing these people to teach your children. If we had a house full of ......... I dunno, fill in the blank ......... Erika and Jee then it would be SO BORING!!!!

You've got to have the whole gambit, people you like, people you don't like. It's what makes things fun.

Look at how much discussion Ali gets on this board by people who HATE her. If she wasn't in the house anymore, you all wouldn't have anything to talk about. See? :)

So quit letting her bug you. Just enjoy it while it lasts. In a few weeks this will be off and we'll all be sitting around the camp fire watching folks on Survivor eat a bunch of weird s**t and we'll WISH Ali was there with them!

Kalekona

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 09:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
1. I don't think erika regrets what she said about Jee because i don't think she gave it another thought after it was said. (and she didn't read TV guide)
2. Ali is the devil (complete with horns)
3. I like jun but not many of her actions.
4. I like Robert but can do without his comments about women. But I do hope since JC made a big thing about his S---, Wh--- and bi--- comments that she will also point out ali's use of the same words aimed at both Jun and Erika.

Steveh

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 09:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Clio - I am on record, repeatedly, I find Ali fascinating. Yes, I LOVE to be revolted by her (I've been tapped on the shoulder by The Imp of the Perverse). Jun's been my favorite since the beginning (Yep, I know--she has a HUGE downside and more than a few Ali-like traits), but I have so much more invested in Ali being my NOT favorite. I'll say it here once and for all: I wouldn't like the show nearly as much if it weren't for Ali. She's, by far, the most despicable contestant of all the BB and any time someone's the "most" or the "best" or whatever of anything, they have my complete attention. My final confession: Ali doesn't bug me; she THRILLS me. LOL

Jimmer

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 09:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm just happy to see the three woman fully portrayed as they really are in the house on the TV show. I was getting pretty tired of all the negative posts about Robert's language and "women hating", without much discussion of the way Ali and Jun talk. So … because Ali and Jun referred to other women as b*s and Sl*ts does that now make them women haters too? I'm not saying this excuses Robert's remarks, but it at least puts them into perspective compared to others in the house.

Cliotheleo

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 09:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Steve, now that's what I like to hear! So you want her to go to the finals so she can NOT win, right? That's the true test.

Steveh

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 10:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry Clio, but no.

Poe's Imp of the Perverse (the idea that my effort to supress my appreciation of Ali has only produced an appreciation of her from me) carries me only to the final three.

I don't mind if Ali dodges a bullet this week. In fact, as I ponder, it might even be preferable. Although at the most elemental level it would be like having a thorn removed from my liver if she were booted on Tuesday. But if she does dodge the bullet next week, next time, when she's tantalizingly close to the big dough, she has to go.

If and when the competition gets to three, my Imp of the Perverse transmutates to "schadenfreude" (a robust enjoyment of the misery of others; it's German, what else? See I can be racially insensitive too.) and what a moment it would be to see Ali's sagging, sniveling mug when she learns that she won't be going to the jury vote.

The way she's been flipping out (oops, I'm sorry "playing the game") the last two days in the house I believe--figure skating & beauty pageant competitions aside--we could really see a memorable tv moment.

Cliotheleo

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 10:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well all I know is that if she doesn't do a triple sow cow before it's over with I'll be REALLY dissapointed!!!

Steveh

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 10:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"The Salchow got its unusual name from its inventor, Irwin Salchow and it is often pronounced 'sow' (like a pig) and 'cow' (like a cow). It is an edge jump which takes off from a left back inside (LBI) edge and turns a full revolution, and lands on the right back outside (RBO) edge. It is most commonly entered from a backward crossover with a step-forward into a left forward outside (LFO) edge.

The skater then does a LFO 3-turn so that she is skating on a LBI edge. At this point, the skater usually executes a strong check for stability, witht the right arm extended behind and the left arm exteneded forward.

The free (right) leg is held in the air, behind and to the right of the skater. The skater swings the free leg and arm forward, imitating a spinning something or other (dervish, perhaps?) and leaps into the air."

Now my minimal figure skating knowledge leads me to believe that a triple Salchow would be THREE of these in rapid succession? So, yes I could see Ali exiting the game in such a fashion, but going through a wall of the BB House rather than the front door.

Actually, I was referring to that poise and grace figure skaters and pageant competitors are supposed to exhibit in defeat. I'm sure that outside the house, when she's not "playing the game" Ali is all about poise and grace and generosity in defeat. LOL

Please note I used the word "stability" in a post about Ali?

Cliotheleo

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 10:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok now THAT makes sense. I knew that figure skating moves are often named after their inventors and all these years I've been wondering WHO would name their kid Sow Cow! :)

Would you like Robert to grab Ali around the waste and FLING her out the door like pair skaters do (a throw triple loop maybe?) I love that move!

Steveh

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 11:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think Robert could lift Ali, even w/ his new guns and all. And I'm not writing this b/c I think Ali is heavy. Did you see the "manly" Robert flailing at his pinata? And I don't mean when he was alone in the HOH room. With that remark, I'd better call it a night. LOL

I'm so wrapped up in this HOH competition that I wish I knew someone here better so I could get them to call me and wake me up and tell me what happened. Hell, it's not even midnight in my world, but I'm OLD & can hang on no longer. LOL

'night . . .