Archive through August 04, 2003
TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1:
Vilification?:
Archive through August 04, 2003
Earthmother | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 07:00 pm     Dana was making it quite clear she couldn't be trusted before David asked Jee to put her up. Granted Maris, not all of Jack and Erica's conversations are interesting, but at least they aren't laying on top of each other, making decisions based on which boy/girl likes them best, and acting like a bunch of high schoolers. I thought the lysol conversation was a bit witty...lol |
Grannyg | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 07:01 pm     Philamom, LOL |
Earthmother | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 07:02 pm     Back on subject..this year's vile treatment of hgs on the block can't hold a candle to the last two years. |
Spunky | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 07:04 pm     Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 08:16 pm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Of course she doesn't want the tiebreaker. I just hope Jack has merci on her and tells her "Don't worry, it was going to be 6-0 even before you told us that's what you wanted. It's not only us but your three 'friends' had already agreed to vote you out". But I guess, someone will spare her this sadistic revelation and will simply tell her: "Okay, as you wish, 6-0". See, maybe someone read my post yesterday and reported that Jack told Dana, etc... anyway, my psychic powers reached the BB house.. |
C1mag | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 07:09 pm     It depends on who it is and how they handle it all. Dana is classic Lori from last year. SHE WON'T SHUT UP ABOUT IT ! I think any vilification she recieves is a much deserved reward at this point. She played the "me" card way too early in this game and let her emotions take center stage on week 3. The best game players suck it up and use those that have screwed with them and at just the right moment they turn on them. Dani kept marcellus very close to her but was very aware of him constantly talking about her and wanting her and Jason out and at just the right moment... BAM he was gone. Dana was a LOUSY player at this game. She could have went very far had she just sucked it up. Now she is getting a big ol dose of everything she created last week. |
Cameltoes | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 07:23 pm     I agree Earthmother. This year is not as bad in terms of how the eventual evictee is treated but then again, they treat each other pretty badly on a daily basis so it's not as if there is a significant shift in their treatment of one another as there has been in other years. |
Gina8642 | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 07:24 pm     I don't think Dana deserves to be villified. I didn't think Lori deserved to be villified. Lori was great. She called out Dani about bashing Gerry's handwashing issue behind his back. Clearly the producers try to cast someone like Lori and Dana each year. There are many parallels here. I do agree, Dana worst mistake is she CAN'T SHUT UP about anything. She wears her emotions on her sleeve. But that is also why she makes such a fun person to watch. I found it absolutely amazing how much she knew about what was going on, even though many tried to keep her out of the loop. Good casting. To me, everyone bashing her, just makes them look like hypocrites. She's gone, don't kick a dead dog. But I guess it is human nature. |
Earthmother | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 07:32 pm     I don't agree with villification either, but it seems to be part of the game. If you listen to Robert, Jun and Justin they villify their exs every day. I have to give Jee credit for not saying ugly things about Jun. |
Lurknomore | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 07:43 pm     I no longer care about villification...Granny and friends....whom I adore and desperately want to stay in posting mode...will ya'll (did I say that right? lol) stop trying to BLIND ME with that teensy weensy type. Good grief, the game hurts my head enough....just tell us you are whispering. I'll believe ya lol. Now I'm running the heck away from Granny's stick lol |
Omegabubbles | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 07:44 pm     Lori was my hero and always will be. I also agree with Earthmother in that at least Jack and Erica are not laying on top of eachother while talking stradegy. I also agree with Granny g- Justin is using Dana. Of course that doesn't bother me, as long as she's gone. |
Earthmother | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 07:44 pm     Well last night we got to listen to Justin say at least 5 nasty things about Ali and now we get to listen to Robert villify Erica twice in the last 15 minutes. These guys need to go.... |
Omegabubbles | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 07:49 pm     You are right Earthmother. They remind of the kind of guys that hang around happy hour looking to pick up girls for the night. |
Grannyg | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 07:52 pm     Yes Lurk, you said "ya'll" right. And just for you I will type in big letters, Lurk, i'm whispering so you will know not to read the off topic crap. smooches Lurk!! |
Earthmother | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 07:56 pm     And if those girls are smart Omegabubbles they would accept the free drink and throw those two fish back... |
Omegabubbles | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 08:11 pm     Lol Earthother |
Lurknomore | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 08:35 pm     See you southern types are wearing off on me...soon I won't be Pahhhking my Cahhh anymore lol. And big off top back at ya Granny  |
C1mag | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 08:45 pm     Ok I think some are missing the point. Lori was not vilified for standing up for Gerry. She was vilified for going nuts the second she got nominated. She didn't stay calm. You couldn't help but get irritated by her behavior. Standing up for Gerry just gave them a reason to get rid of her since she was already on the block. It's sorta like the Tonya outburst with Marc before voting. She was even up against Josh who was an easy target to ridicule. I honestly believe you do better in this game by sucking it up and not giving them anything to vilify you with. Dana does deserve the backlash. It's Karma in a big way, and I'm convinced that Karma is a Dana. She was horrid last week. She made vengence her main goal and played that card to early. No one is saying vilification is nice and welcome but once again here is Dana a self confessed bb addict so she knew the score for the last 4 years and knew that added vilification factor. She actually jacked it up a notch last week with the, " WE MUST HATE THEM" card. She flat out BLEW IT! |
Lovedana | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 08:53 pm     In response to Maris' statement about Jack's claim: I think that the only crime Jack committed, if any, was to pass that statement as a fact (i.e., that the Jee3 intentionally threw the last HOH competition); otherwise, his statement is not far-fetched at all. I think two things seem likely: Either BB fixed the results of the competition (as alleged by Bohawkins) or the Jee3 did have intent to throw the competition. The former would seem less likely. However, the latter does seem plausible. Throwing the competition would seem to win them an extra week, since they knew that Nathan and his team would be after Dana. They didn't want her in their team and perhaps saw her as a liability, so it was possible that they did throw it--in spite of Justin's repeated comment about the essence of winning that HOH. Notice that all of the Jee3 flunked the test and didn't get more than 2 (or even 3) balls. To the contrary, Justin did really well during practice. I know that people get nervous when it's time to perfom. Nevertheless, Justin would likely have done better than 2 balls. |
C1mag | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 08:56 pm     I have a big problem with them losing hoh on purpose. They had no idea Dana would be the target. It was common knowledge that Justin was suppose to be the target. Even Ali was chanting that as well. Those guys wanted it bad. You needed a shovel to scrape Justins bottom lip off the ground after they lost it. I don't believe they handed to Ali. When they practiced they were on the ground not that high up. |
Wendo | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 09:02 pm     Well, as much as vilification kinda stinks, it does seem par for the course in BB. I agree with those who argue that it makes it easier for those who are doing the voting out. As far as Dana...gosh darn that woman won't shut up about her nomination and all the ramifications surrounding it. If I were in there, I think I would've told her to put a sock in it already. (I think this is what Robert's been trying to do all night...but more politely.) It's not that I don't have empathy for Dana; I do. But, dang, she needs to just STOP. For all that is holy, please, Dana, STOP. Plus, I think Jun is about to rip Dana a new one. She's bugging her that bad... |
Maris | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 09:03 pm     I agree C1, Jack made that up to get to Dana, he knew she would blow up. |
Lovedana | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 09:05 pm     C1mag, well, vengeance is the opinion of you and others. However, in my opinion, it was not vengeance that Dana sought. She sought what made sense. After all, if she was out for vengeance, she wouldn't have fallen for Nathan's blue eyes. LOL! And perhaps she would have nominated David right from the start, since he was in possession of the POV that would have gotten her nominated. She had reasonable reason to nominate Alison. She said clearly that Alison knew how she Dana felt about Alison. And Dana repeatedly said how their emotions were mixed emotions. It seemed clear to me that Dana really was endeavoring to sort out people she couldn't trust, in order of distrust. It made sense to me based on her limited knowledge that she made the choices that she did. Funny I didn't like Alison, but primarily because I saw her as what she's proven to be now--untrustworthy. P.S. Didn't Alison tell Justin her plans when she was drunk? Wasn't it that she would be rescued by Nathan, and then she would go after Dana or something like that? If that was it, then Justin knew he and his group had nothing to lose. |
C1mag | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 09:06 pm     Wendo exactly. Thats why I say it's just like Lori. You want so much to tell her to shut up. It's over. Start accepting it. I actually give them credit for tolerating it because I don't think I could at this point. She alone put this target on her. It all goes back to the week that Jee had hoh. She got nervous simply because people wouldn't talk to her. They kept telling her CALM DOWN! She's made this so called vilification to easy. |
Maris | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 09:10 pm     They want her to calm down because they dont want her exploding at Jack and then it will come out that the Jees really did meet in the HOH room with Ali and did agree to put her out. Everything Robert said about her will come out. Then Dana will spill everything, she wont care at that point. So they are desperately trying to keep the cap on the volcano that is Dana. Jack blew it for all of them and they are trying to do serious damange control. Watch how nobody in her alliance will let her be alone with Erika or Jack. That is why they keep telling her to say nothing. Robert is like her babysitter. Jun is also pissed at Justin for repeating a conversation she had with him to Dana. |
Wendo | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 09:14 pm     Yep C1mag, Dana's "decompression" is very similar to Lori's "decompression." However, Lori didn't sleep much during that time and I don't think that helped matters. But, yes, she's really not endearing herself to the other HG's right now. And, I mean, ALL the HG's; including her own alliance people. Yeah, I give the HG's credit too. Hopefully, once tomorrow's voting is done, she'll stop (since there's nothing that can be done anyway.) Like you, though, I would've reached my limit with her by now. (And, I don't watch the feeds 24/7!) |
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