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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Special K, acid, ecstacy and cocaine - who used what??: Archive through August 04, 2003

Jackensack

Monday, August 04, 2003 - 09:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The other night some of the houseguests (Dana, Justin and???) discussed the types of illegal drugs they have used (Special K, cocaine, ecstacy and acid). Can someone either give me more specific information or point me to the live feeds where it was transcribed. Thank you.

Crossfire

Monday, August 04, 2003 - 09:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I've had my share of Special K, though at the time, I was under the impression it was just a breakfast cereal.

Laisey

Monday, August 04, 2003 - 09:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cross, LOL. You just can't trust anything these days, can you?

Squaredsc

Monday, August 04, 2003 - 09:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
rofl cross, i just spit my ice tea all over the place.

Seanflynn2003

Monday, August 04, 2003 - 10:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
So now we know why Jack is there -- he is working undercover still for the FBI!

Gidget

Monday, August 04, 2003 - 10:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
On Sex in the City last night, people were smoking pot right out on the street as if everyone were doing that. Back in my day we didn't do that and the drugs for the most part were not even as potent but the penalties were darn scary.

I'm currently serving Grand Jury duty and had a drug education presentation a few weeks ago. Having dabbled back in my youth and survived, I have always been a bit put off by the whole dangers of drugs thing. We used to watch Reefer Madness at a special theatre while getting high.

Boy was I in for a surprise. I mean any fool can whip up some engine degreaser and sink declogger and be in business. Don't get me started on date rape drugs.

Marijiuana, my main drug of choice back in the day, is significantly more potent due to better growing techniques.

And while the subject of Oklahoma is so fresh in everyone's mind on the board this week, think of what made the bomb.

Your neighbor could be growing pot hydroponically. One wrong spark and everyone is annihilated.

Maris

Monday, August 04, 2003 - 10:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The Oklahoma bomb was made of pot????? That I did not know. Your neighbor could also have a faulty gas heater and you could be annihilated.

It isnt unusual to walk down the street in manhattan and smell a joint, especially at lunch time and especially downtown around wall street.

Kellirippa

Monday, August 04, 2003 - 10:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
In the words of Bill Clinton, "I tried it, but I didn't annihilate"..

Mizinvanccouver

Monday, August 04, 2003 - 10:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"K" is a horse tranquillizer and is being used rampidly at after hours bars where I live. Quite often people like to combine Ecstasy with "K". It can be a deadly combination.

We have been also having a rash of the date rape drug dropped in peoples drinks at our night clubs. The police have had 14 cases in the past month. Not just women either, men are getting hit too.

Some of our clubs have video cameras, so they do have some leads, but warning the public about it.

It's really a shame people do that for entertainment! So if you're at a club, don't leave your drink alone for a MINUTE!

Gidget

Monday, August 04, 2003 - 10:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It was made of nitrogen fertilizer. If you live in an apartment and the gas heater is faulty, well you do need heat. That would be the bad luck of modern living. You do not need to be growing pot on every conceivable surface in a medium that is potentially highly explosive.

As far as the smell of pot on NY streets. It's been years since I hung on NY streets and I was kind of surprised by what I saw on the show. Sure there were areas in the past where people did hang out and smoke, but Wall Street was not one of them.

I'm not saying people on Wall Street never smoked pot. I am saying they were less blatant about it.

Furthermore, the drug scene has changed significantly. There are a lot more recipes for drugs any fool can whip up in their kitchen. And there are a lot more potent street drugs more widely available.

If I had wanted cocaine or heroin when I was young I could have had it but with great effort, danger and cost.

Based on the drug cases I have heard thus far, frankly the dealers are in every neighborhood. It is really no effort to get drugs.

As such, it is not surprising if some of the HGs have a no big deal attitude about drugs.

The only point I was trying to make is if you are over 40 and left drugs behind with your impetuous youth, the drugs of your day are not what is happening out there now.

Charvie

Monday, August 04, 2003 - 11:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Robert has been talking about blue pills that aren't Viagra but suppose to do the same thing. Does anyone know what he's talking about? I have never heard of it.

Justareader

Monday, August 04, 2003 - 11:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Charvie - I have only heard him refer to viagra (he can get it from his brother) but he also has referred to it as "the cape"

Charvie

Monday, August 04, 2003 - 11:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
These are relatively young men. Why on earth do they need sexual enhancement drugs? Are they that bad in bed?! lol

Katlady53

Monday, August 04, 2003 - 12:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Charvie, I'm wondering the same thing! Sheesh, I guess I'll just stick to the old men. Lol

Squaredsc

Monday, August 04, 2003 - 12:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
well ive heard bout drugs and creams that will make you stay harder longer and i think thats what robert and others are using it for. not necessarily to 'get it up'.

Wendo

Monday, August 04, 2003 - 12:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The Jee5 group had a "drug" discussion a day or so ago. Dana said she had done "everything". Justin said he's tried a lot, but hadn't done "everything". Robert and Jee didn't say anything, that I recall. And Jun said she's done virtually, nothing; of which, Justin and Dana were shocked.

Johnnydollar

Monday, August 04, 2003 - 12:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm not shocked. Jun and Jee are the class acts of the stooge alliance. They really don't belong with them. Jun seems to be a canny player and Jee just a nice guy. I see the two main strategizers as Jack vs Jun. Sort of like Sherlock Holmes vs Prof Moriarty.

Costacat

Monday, August 04, 2003 - 12:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think lack of drug usage has anything to do with being "class acts." I think the reason Jee and Jun didn't dabble in drugs is because of their lifestyle. It sounds like they had very closeknit families growing up, and that can have a lot of impact on recreational drug usage.

Jack, why do you want to know what drugs the HGs used?

Maris

Monday, August 04, 2003 - 12:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun and Jee both admitted to smoking pot a week before they came into the house.

Seanflynn2003

Monday, August 04, 2003 - 01:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Charvie et al

Viagra has gained widespread popularity among under 30 men who don't need it. The perception is that it improves even optimum performance.

Those of us who watched Queer as Folk this season recall a funny episode that shows what can happen with this

Crossfire

Monday, August 04, 2003 - 01:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Never had stuff like that when I was a kid. If you wanted to put on a good performance, you had to work for it, and it was hard. Kids... :)

Animaldr

Monday, August 04, 2003 - 01:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Special K is ketamine. It is an anesthetic agent commonly used by veterinarians, but also used in human patients (pediatrics, OB).

The liquid can be injected or the powder is inhaled or sprinkled on tobacco or marijuana.

I've seen animals recovering from ketamine anesthesia - it's not very pretty. I don't know why anyone would abuse this drug.

Theo

Monday, August 04, 2003 - 01:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Perhaps jack is one of the new meny FBI or CIA folk monitoring chatrooms and message boards for tidbit of info anykind of info...Maybe jack is the REAL bigbrother

Wendo

Monday, August 04, 2003 - 01:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris is right, both Jee and Jun admitted to pot smoking. Dana and Justin were "shocked" that that is all Jun had done. (They assumed she had tried/used other drugs besides pot.)

Thanks Maris!

Chai

Monday, August 04, 2003 - 01:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope so, Theo!! I was hoping that the new twist would be Jack making some arrests. LOL!