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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Editing - What makes the 'Cut': Archive through August 15, 2003

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Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 09:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
How's that, Tobor7?

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Tobor7

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 09:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Super. Thanks.

Beruthiel

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 10:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Does anyone agree with the premise that this year the Diary Room clips are the most contrived, artificial, and most poorly acted than in any previous year?

It's a given I know that many, if not all, of the things we see from the DR are responses to BB questions, but this year, either BB is getting careless, and forgetting to be subtle, or we have the worst bunch of actors this year than in any previous BB.
It's so obvious that each HG is answering questions, and most don't do it with any pretense of spontaneity. Only Allie, because she has been talking about her pet peeve Dana, showed much animation.
Up to this year, there was at least a semblance of originality in each HG's DR. This year it's like watching tired and bored kids being quizzed by Mom or Dad - they answer because they have to, but they make sure you know they don't want to, and it gets worse with each show.
Can anyone forget - can anyone match! - Will's DRs, or even Dani's last year which cost her the big prize?
If the DR was previously a refuge and a confessional, that function has fallen by the wayside, and now it only serves as a source of clips for the shows, and that's a shame, because now what we see in the DR is what we see in the rest of the house.
No more dramatic revelations, no more delighted shivers of glee as we realise that excellent players are hoodwinking their foes, and only WE know!
It's just one more nail in the coffin of what has been a lacklustre season, at best, and at worst, a predictable one.

Never mind replacing this year's crop of Houseguests - let's replace all the BB staff, starting with the time-servers in control of the darn feeds, and let's make sure that the new DR staff have some psych training, or at least, experience as kindergarten teachers.

Goodnight all, off to beddy-byes for me. I've got earache, burning eyes, sore throat, a head that feels like a pumpkin, and not another shred of indignation can I raise!
Have a good weekend! See ya!

Tobor7

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 01:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The DR stuff this year feels overproduced. Feels like they kept asking the same question over and over till they got the answer they wanted. Or even put the words in their mouth.

Let's see if they have Jack talk about throwing the contest in the next show or if they stay off it. The HGs were onto it. How could they not do a seg on that and directly ask Jack to explain himself. The DR stuff is safe... so he should tell then...

Laisey

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 01:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I expect he would give the same explanation he has already given. That since the answers came from a questionaire the HGs had filled out before the show, he didn't believe Dana would have said that about herself.

Tobor7

Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 05:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Friday's show was good.

Clearly they want to make Robert a likable HG. Robert's story line was very emotional and put him in a good light. I read other threads and it seems many others remember things about Robert that the editing clearly didn't touch on. They are creating a Robert that they can live with if he happens to win. They are also setting up a story line with him & Erika if they get more.

The "godfather" scenes in the hoh room were great. Jack really played into it well and made it even funnier. Despite the gloating, I liked it. The best part of the show.

The food comp was stupid and such a waste of good food. Too bad that is the best they could come up with... BUT I was laughing out loud at times.

Justin's looking at the wall-o-pics and the fake drama of his decision was transparent (at least to the feed watchers). "Some keys seems to fit in the box better" was a great line from Justin.

And that's all I have to say about that.

Tobor7

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 04:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Takin' a bump till the next show.

Cinder

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 05:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I noticed that during Robert's montage of talking about drinking Jun appeared to be getting up and down. I did not watch it on the feeds so I do not now how long the time span of his conversation was- or if they rearranged the sequence of the conversation and Jun may only got up once- or for tha matter- laid down once.

Corriecat

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 05:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The DR segments this year remind me of a game my sister and I played as kids. One of us would be the "star" and the other one the "reporter". The reporter would take the cassette recorder out of the room and ask a question like "What boy do you like the most?" and then pause the tape. Then the reporter would go back in the room and ask something like "Who's the creepiest boy in your class?" and only record the person's answer. At the end you would have a tape of the person answering the questions silly like Mad Libs.

Tobor7

Monday, August 11, 2003 - 09:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Corrie, that sounds like it was a fun game! (I used to love Mad Libs when i was a kid.)

Spunky

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 09:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sometimes they get in just the right shots... After Nate lost the POV we see him walking away really pissed off and in the background in slow-mo Jun's smirk while looking at Jee... excellent!!!

Tobor7

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 02:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tuesday's Show 8-12-03

They will do anything to get J-Lo's name in there huh? Erika wants to be J-Lo?!?

They really got the point right. Nate and Jack lied to the Jee3 when Jee was HOH. Now it is coming back on them. This was organized by Dave-- who is gone. There was no need to pull that surprise vote and save Erika. They wanted to send a message to the Jee3... yeah, it showed who was going to lie early on.

A nice Q in the DR would have been... "So now do you think it was a mistake making the Jee3 look so bad then?

The game... they edited it down so much-- the only point you got was 3-against-one. They should have showed how the teams were made. Just bad luck for Nate. But if you think about it, any config of players would not have helped him. They all knew if he won he would take himself off. So it didn't really matter. They would not have helped him to win.
Would have been better to have 1 on 1 games. Less luck, more skill, more drama.

EW had it right in last week's article. The BB music choices sound like cheap porno music. This really hit home on this show. If this isn't stock music, then it is a real waste of $$.

I would have liked to hear some more DR about how the game was played and the coaching etc. The laundry comp was a bust. (No pun intended.) Nate and Erika had some of their clothes ruined, but they chose not to use those comments. They had to spend 5 mins on Justin's shorts to set it up. Sorry. WASTE of air time.

Cameltoes

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 02:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What I took from that was what a poor job they did in showing everything that happened when Erika and Michelle were on the block. Many viewers were wondering when Jack lied because they didn't accurately cover all of the machinations Dave and Jack did to keep the Original alliance in line. That was the most interesting week so far and they covered it horribly.

Tobor7

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 02:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Camel. Would have made a better story line. Kill the smelly shorts and the J-Lo and give us more real story line.

Cafe976

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 03:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tobor - not sure what feeds you're watching, but I don't think there is much story line beyond Justin's shorts.

The week when there WAS a lot of story, there wasn't enough minutes of show (with all the "where are they now" crap) to show it all.

Unfortunate.

Tobor7

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 03:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The only story line we don't get is in the DR. I wish they would ask them more about how they see the power structure of the house and what their plans are -- not ask about hats and boots.

Spunky

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 04:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tonight they should build up suspense with Nate's begging and then be told he's safe and then he's out again and then more begging and then he's safe again and then is out for goood...

But I hope they show Jack's conversation with Justin last night.. that's a must show!

Tobor7

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 04:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
We know what happened on the LFs. I hope you are right Spunky. I wonder if they will use the stuff about having Jack beg on his knees to stay? I say they will NOT use that.

Spunky

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 04:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tobor... it was not Jack who begged on his knees... quite the contrary??? Did you read last night's convo with Jack and Justin in the HOH??? Briefly, Jack told him "no deal, you're up if I win". Now, that's cool!! and Justin liked him for saying that!!
These two opponents respect each others... This is what I'd like to see...

R151996

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 05:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What Tobor7 was referring to was Robert telling the other stooges that Jack should come into HoH and beg on his knees to be saved.

I wish that clip of Robert would be shown right before showing the great one-on-one convo that Jack did have with Justin. I watched the whole convo on the LFs and it was a classic.

Spunky

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 05:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh that!! Yes, they should stop portraying Robert as the "saint"... show also he's bitching about Jun...(behind her back)

Tobor7

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 07:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes R151996, that is what I was talking about.

Tobor7

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 07:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wednesday Show 8-13-03

Good live show.
(Anyone else have the extended digital glitch at the beginning of the show?)

Didn't notice any bad music.
I give them credit for having Robert vote first. Once he voted, then I knew how it was going to go.
The profile w/Nate's family was a tell that he was leaving though.
Julie had better questions than usual.
Justin's answers in the HOH room were good as well.

Would have liked a split-screen CU of Jack and Nate's face when Julie told the votes.

Nice job editors.

Spunky

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 08:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Too bad they didn't show Jack not taking the bait when talking to Justin in the HOH...

It was a decent editing for once...Nate will be okay...he's a mamma's boy!! As long as you have a good mamma you'll be okay!!!...heck..I keep telling my kids, they don't believe me...

Costacat

Friday, August 15, 2003 - 08:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bellinis! (And... Number 400!!)