Jack's Shirt. Why is he helping the enemy?
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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Jack's Shirt. Why is he helping the enemy?

Jolly_Penguin

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 11:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As you all know, Jack removed his shirt to cover both Jun and Alison as they went pee. WHY? Why would Jack help the very people who he does not want to get HOH? He is killing his chances. If he didn't remove his shirt, perhaps nobody else would have and they would have left for the bathroom and improved Jack's chances. Moreover, they just may pee on his shirt, and then he'll be topless in the night (which may be cold).

Why is Jack sacrificing himself?

Cantremember

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 11:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Because he is a gentleman

Capnjacksparrow

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 11:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He deserves to lose after that one. Jee even told him that he wouldn't give up his shirt, because if the girls have to go bad enough, they'll leave the cage.

Jolly_Penguin

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 11:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Indeed. <el>. His kindness will destroy him.

Cantremember

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 11:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that in Jack's mind, Robert and Jee are bigger enemies than Jun and Ali. I've got to believe that if Robert or Jee win, Jack and Erika are nominated and out of the house.

Jun and Ali have changed sides once, the might do it again to stay in the game, which would give Jack an opportunity (if he or Erika do not win) to discuss with Ali and Jun some different scenarios. At some point, the girls have got to wake up and see they are out numbered.

And, worse case scenario, maybe Ali/Jun will keep Jack in the game (over Erika) for his sacrifice tonight.

Prisonerno6

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 06:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm just amazed people are bashing Jack for being a gentleman. His was one of the few acts of kindness we've seen in that house, so good for him!

Smokey

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 06:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree, Prisoner. I thought it was admirable and to me, he was just being who he is--a guy who shows respect to other human beings. I know it's a game, but he seems the type that would rather be who he is and let whatever outcome happens, happen.

Kathyb

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 06:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I also think that Jack is always aware that the other hgs will be voting for the winner in the end. He hasn't offended anyone and would probably win against any of the others.

Castleexplorer

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 07:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with you Kathyb. Jack has always shown nothing but courtesy to the other house guests. He's an easy guy to like. If I were there, I'd take off my shirt (and I'M female) for them just to not hear Jun whine any more! Heck, I might even offer her my arm to gnaw on!

Seamonkey

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 03:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it was a combination of things.. he is generally kind, he and Erika absolutely feel that the only person they can beat in the finals would be Ali, so they want her to stay, and with Robert and Jee still in at the peeing point, they feared them more..

He was complaining a bit this morning.

And Jun didn't but Ali DID pee on the shirt..

I think Ali and Erika had their turns at being flakey and obnoxious as well.. I'd have wanted to deck all three of them at different times.

Seamonkey

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 03:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
oh, yes.. and the JURY too.. if Jack is F2, then one or both of the pee-ers will be on that jury :)

Twiggyish

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 07:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Old fashioned gentleman. There aren't many left.

Grooch

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 07:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack knew he could outlast the other hgs no matter what, so it was no big deal to offer his shirt (and at the same time be a gentleman) to the people who needed to pee.

Slg21

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 10:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
exactly, Jack is a gentleman.

Pannie

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 10:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack is a gentleman and he likes the ladies. He wants to get their vote over the other non-gentlemen. Plus, it may help him stay longer by not being a threat to the women. probably an ol' FBI tactic

Niceguy

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 10:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack does have that chivalry thing happening. Of course he's thinking votes. He'll easily beat any of the remaining guys. Quite possibly Jun and Ali as well.

The thing about Jack...sometimes you hear the clicks and beeps between his canned responses. I don't mean to say he's an old robot but...if that's his worst crime.

GO JACK, GO!

Sanfranjoshfan

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 10:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe Jack's shirt will wind up on eBay! (Does eBay have a fetish section?) LOL:)

Niceguy

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 11:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Its nearly eleven thirty, I guess we can use veiled risque' humor here.

Cliotheleo

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 11:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Why of course! Come on join us at the Late Night thread, it's a virtual risque' humor party! :)

Niceguy

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 11:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I bet it is.

Timewaster

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 11:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Didn't you all know? Jack has his shirts made by a carny worker from Winnamuca using an old world fabric blend of fiberglass and asbestos.

Rub your bottoms on THAT, ladies. (Jun & Ali)

Lisad

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 11:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I must say it really bothered me (I'm a fan of the J/E alliance). Worried he'd lose balance putting it on/taking it off TWICE! And the 2nd time I was flat PO'd at him for 'helping the enemy'. It's highly possible they wouldn't have peed without that shirt & left.

You bet he's going to get a boatload of votes when the time comes. But I think he has already gained respect from the houseguests and this wasn't necessary. Wonder what would have happened if he didn't do it. Grrr!

Cliotheleo

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 11:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It's simple. Jack's a gentelman.

John32070

Friday, August 15, 2003 - 04:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I admit if I was in Jack's place that I'd feel guilty not doing what he did in this case but I'd have felt worse after realizing someone had just taken a leak on my shirt LOL. I wouldn't have done it. I don't think it will get him any farther as I don't think it mattered to Jun or Alison in terms of whether they'd nominate or vote him out just over lending them his shirt.