Scorpiomoon | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:31 am     But what they could do is enforce some sort of punishment that the entire house would have to endure. Can you imagine if, thanks to Dana and her defiant behavior, Jun had to eat PB&J? |
Dallasbbfan | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:32 am     Jpgramma: BB probably thought (to quote Nathan) she deserved a second chance |
Kalekona | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:33 am     The ball drop very well could have been fixed, and bohawkins gave the way last night, pump some air in the tubes you don't want to win and either no air or a little suction on the one you want to win. Ali herself said she could only get like 2 balls during her practicing. And the food Comp. well Dana was explaining why she thought they lost and while doing so discribed somewhat different corse set ups, something about the conduits. She thinks they just didn't have a clue, I think the cool team had an advantage. Nate and ali said this is what they wanted (ali even said she'd eat PB&J just to see Dana suffer) Hey it makes dramatic TV who cares if it's fair. And the producers can not make sure their favorites win everything that would be a FCC violation but they sure can try and slant the comp.& influence the HG thinking to try and reach their goal. Must we forget Amy was a ratings bonanza and somehow found her way back to the house? |
Spwisc | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:34 am     I would like to see only questions being asked for HOH contests (like in Survivor where you really had to get to know each others lives/families), and physical competitions for POV and Food challenges. You shouldn't be able to 'practice' for HOH. |
Seanflynn2003 | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:38 am     Amy was voted back into the house by the other HGs, not by the choice of the producers |
Maris | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:38 am     I dont think it is an FCC violation. This is a reality show not a game show. Whatever gets the best ratings are the rules for these shows. I am sure the contracts are written very carefully. |
Llkoolaid | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:40 am     Well, I think Alison deserved the win, she practiced hard while Dana and company watched through the window and bashed her and Nate instead of practicing. Their arrogance that they are the superior players bit them in the butt again. They are the worst poor sports I have ever seen on this show next to chilltown. I think it looks good on them and the best part of the show so far for me was the look on Dana's face when Allison won next to Jack's Buzzard crotch comment. |
Crazydog | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:40 am     I disagree Spwisc, I like the variety in the HoH contests. Just last week there was a "what do you know about BB" trivia type contest, the week before when Jee won it was "how will the others answer". Only Nathan's HoH (knees on the chum button) was physical. I think there needs to be variety in the HoH contests so it varies the strengths needed to win. The ultimate competitor of course would be someone who is both physically and mentally adept. And why not let them practice? It gives them something to do all day, and those who want it more should be able to put in the hard work if they want to. Clearly this week, Alison or Nathan needed to win HoH. They put in the effort and Alison won. I think it was deserved. |
Seanflynn2003 | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:41 am     However the contracts are written, they are superceded by FCC rules on contests on TV. There are certain things that HGs don't give up even if they sign something. I believe that as far as the law stands, reality contest shows -- as opposed to reality non-contest shows like Real World or Queer Eye -- do fall under the regulations of game shows. |
Maris | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:43 am     I dont think that this is written as a contest. Each person in the house is salaried. The person who is in the house the longest gets a bonus. I remember this discussion from last year and the way the payment is structured it is done in such a way to deliberately make it not a contest or gameshow. |
Seanflynn2003 | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:53 am     I do remember the discussion from last year, and the points about the limitations of how much BB could affect the results were discussed thoroughly. To allow BB to influence directly the results, 2 things would need to happen: 1) language that would allow BB to do that; any lawyer reading this for his/her client would raise a red flag immediately; we have never heard from this or Survivor or any other show anyone not going on the show because of this and 2) there would be some determination that these are not game shows; the case history on the FCC is that they are VERY particular about how TV runs shows where contests and money are at stake Remember the brouhaha over the voting on American Idol last season? That was a reality show, and when there was a brief inkling over differing results, Fox went into overdrive to disprove them Apart from realities, the other reason that the idea of BB "causing" Allison to win by manipulating the tubes is even if the legalities are cleared, doing something like that if it became known would kill a show like this. Both from the perspective of viewers and potential contestants, knowing the results could be manipulated to this extent would be devastating. |
Meggieprice | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 12:12 pm     What Likoolaid said... thanks for saying it for me! If they can manipulate things to bring someone back...then BRING BACK DAVE! Really, though, I like BB because it is essentially the only reality show- much as I love Survivor it is a slickly packaged presentation and not a Reality show at all. You did not find people thinking Dana had been engineered into HOH. It was one of those amazing turns of events, much like last night. The people who think Ali was given HOH are mostly the people who do not like her, and like Dana.Perhaps it comes from frustration.(Note I said mostly, and only from my perception reading posts these past weeks) Next week it will probably go the other way, who knows! As for the PBJ- there is some poetic justice in Dana being brought down so fast because she was so arrogant in her own position as HOH last week. My personal feeling though is that I liked it better when they all had to compete to get their food every week and I think the house is stressful enough and no one should ever have to eat PBJ. |
Maris | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 12:21 pm     Dana was engineered into HOH. It is like she said, she won by default. That was the first time that the loser won the game. By not answering the last question she won. |
Meggieprice | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 12:22 pm     How could they know who would answer what? |
C1mag | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 01:01 pm     Hey guys! So is it true? Are Rob and Dana gonna say to hell with pb&j and just eat? I wish they would so we could finally see if there really is this thing called a penalty nomination. If Dana were smart and if she gets nominated she might as well eat. If Dana and Justin are nominated and Rob starts eating and he is put up as well and I would think no allowed to try for veto then we would have three nominees this week. I would like that. I actually think the pb&j thing is very played out and they need to think of something knew. |
Wadsters | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 01:09 pm     From HOH to PBJ and I am pretty sure NOM in a couple of day's! I think we are in for a hellofa week. Everyone should find something solid to brace themselves, in case of emergency. I'm going with a good rum |
C1mag | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 01:23 pm     By the way there is a direct quote from Dana saying that if she is nominated and also had to eat pb&j she would walk. Wish they would test that theory on her. Gee this just isn't her week. LOL Now about getting a penalty nomination. You know the scenario would be odd because it could work this way... Say Dana is already nominated and she eats. She thinks it's no big deal but wouldn't that allow ali the right to nominate a third person? After all, Dana basically would have put herself up and isn't hoh allowed to put two people up? I would also think if you get put up based on a penalty that you have to remain on the block therefore you can't be spared with the veto and you can't try for it either. Now if Robert eats and puts himself up along with Justin and Dana and Ali gets to still nominate two people as the hoh that whole cranky side of the house with the exception of jee could be up on the ballot. Justin would be eligible for veto because he was one of Alis original nominees who didn't get a penalty nomination. Dana penalized herself even though she was already nominated and has to stay up on the block. Ali gets to replace the Dana nomination with Jun because hoh gets to put up two nominees. Robert eats and gets penalized and is also put up. Thus we would have four nominees. Two of them aren't eligible for the pov because they are penalized. Damn this could get harry. |
Goddessatlaw | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 01:27 pm     Anyone who wants to eat hamburger enough to potentially blow a good chance at $500,000.00 should go ahead and eat and get themselves thrown out of the game, I don't want to watch the non-players anyway. And then take a viewers vote on who gets to come back INTO the house to replace them who DOES want to play the game. |
Seanflynn2003 | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 01:31 pm     C1mag Don't think so; there is no Harry in the house <sorry, couldn't resist> You are right about the complications My guess (only a guess) is that a penalty nomination if one were to be made would be one of the 2 for any given week; that it would be imposed before the HoH made his/her picks, or carry over to the following week, so that there would not be more than 2 nominees in any given week |
Crazydog | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 01:35 pm     <<By the way there is a direct quote from Dana saying that if she is nominated and also had to eat pb&j she would walk.>> Dana, start packing your bags! Can someone remind me, didn't someone threaten to walk out last year? They opened that big backyard door, but didn't go through with it? |
Hobbs | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 01:39 pm     Nominee's can't vote. So now you cut the number of voters down. With C1mag's theory, you could have 4 people up with only 3 people voting! |
Ziroc | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 01:42 pm     Didn't Dana say if she had to eat PB&J and was nominated that she would walk out?? I think if you're on the block, and you eat, a penalty nomination is pointless, so... you either: 1. Don't get your stipend for that week 2. Get kicked out of the house 3. Replaced with DAVE! |
Cricket | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 04:35 pm     Why is it people think this week's game was fixed because Ali won? I didn't hear the same thing about last week's game when Dana won. |
Woodpecke® | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 04:44 pm     <<Anyone who wants to eat hamburger enough to potentially blow a good chance at $500,000.00 should go ahead and eat and get themselves thrown out of the game, I don't want to watch the non-players anyway.>> I agree 100%. If somebody eats hamburger, they should be tossed. No penalty. Get out of the game and find somebody who is serious. |
Earthmother | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 05:52 pm     "Let em eat cake" then chop their heads off..lol I can't stand Ali, but she doesn't hold as much contempt in my eyes as Dana does. I am praying to the BB Gods that Ali puts up Dana and Justin. Who is going to remove either one of them? No one is my guess and the 2 stooges will want to keep Justin. BYE BYE DANA!!!! Then she can eat whatever the hell she wants.. |
Spunky | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 06:12 pm     Hello Earthmother...I remember you now! I don't understand why Dana doesn't just go ahead and eat regular food.. what could they do to her, she's alread on the block and she's leaving on Wednesday... give the woman a break.. How easy is to patronize those who are down and for whom we don't give a fig... I AM BAD !! |
Costacat | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 06:34 pm     It's entirely possible that BB could evict someone for blatantly disregarding the "rules" (and flaunting said disregard). If the "rules" are you cannot eat anything but peanut butter and condiments (which, in this house, seems to encompass a pretty freakin' broad definition), then a repeated or blatant violation could be cause for dismissal. Of course, in Dana's little teensy mind, she's probably thinking "I dare them to do [something] to me!" In *my* little teensy mind, I'm hoping BB calls her bluff! |
Earthmother | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 06:35 pm     I personally don't care how she leaves as long as she leaves. "Hi, Spunky" |
Costacat | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 06:37 pm     Yeah, agreed, Earth. I think a Dana-less house is a house with one less irritating (to me) houseguest. |
Earthmother | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 06:40 pm     I can't stomach another HOH interview with her..even Julie was saying under her breath "shut the hell up already!!" |
Spunky | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 06:46 pm     LOL!!! But Jun said she was going to quit cooking.. who's going to be the new cook? maybe Nate... he'll have steak every day! |
Maris | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 06:48 pm     Protein Shakes for all. Get the Lysol. |
Earthmother | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 06:55 pm     Spunky, Nate could kill two birds with one stone if he becomes the cook.. He could eat whatever he wants, and he could dispell the rumor that he's gay, because we all know "real men burn meat"..since what makes you a man is the ability to BBQ. |
Spunky | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 06:59 pm     Aaaaaahhhhh, that cracks me up!!! Way to go Earth... |