Archive through August 16, 2003
TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1:
Things Robert Knows...:
Archive through August 16, 2003
Ryanc829 | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 01:44 am     He just said he knew that Justin would do good in the Veto comp. Am I the only one who noticed that he makes similar statements after every competition? |
Scorpiomoon | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 01:52 am     Am I the only who notices Robert isn't smart enough to know Justin doesn't do "good"--he does "well"? I've been listening to his bad grammer/syntax for so long. I'm sick of it. BTW: Hey Ryan! It's good to see you back! |
Ryanc829 | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 01:54 am     Scorpio - Aww damn it...I didn't even notice his grammar screweup and repeated it. |
Naja | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 06:54 am     Since this is a Robert thread, I'll ask here. I couldn't even force myself to stay awake to find out who won Veto, but now I read in the LFP's that Robert went on and on that Jun cheated. Is this just a sour grapes reaction or does he have an actual reason for thinking that? Because the way the rest of the HG's were talking, it sounded like the most fair competition so far. And, it sounded like they didn't even get to watch each other compete, so why the heck is Robert saying that about Jun? What was his voice inflection? Was he being serious? |
Boberg | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 07:11 am     Naja even Justin told Robert later in the night that it was a fair comp. and no one could have cheated..so I think it is just the usual whining sour grapes on Robs part. |
Indybarb | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 07:30 am     I don't mean this to be a "hate" comment, but i think robert has some serious problems.... he is always talking about his "friends" and "connections" in high places... i doubt he even works regularly.... think his dad takes care of him.... and i would be amazed if he does not have a drug problem..psychotic would be my first choice of adjectives... all that said, you will probably not see this post |
Needmylifeback | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 07:33 am     He "KNOWS" he's going to be FAMOUS just from being in the house as long as he has..... He "KNOWS" that he can get any of his compadres a bartending job so they can try their hand at acting..... He "KNOWS" his nose.... |
Naja | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 07:36 am     Thanks Boberg |
Cricket | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 07:47 am     Ryan, that's just how Rob talks. In actuality, the guy is clueless. I read on the feeds the other night that Jack was saying before he could even finish a sentence, Robert was agreeing and saying "Oh yeah, that happened to me too." This was before he even knew what Jack was going to say. He's one of those types of people. I don't understand why he is so upset with Jun winning, unless he really wants to leave the house. |
Konamouse | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 07:48 am     When one of his buddies is in the HOH, he "knows" they are the dream team and are going to win. When one of the "dark side" is in the HOH, he "knows" that it is time to just pack up and go home. 'squeek' |
Kmjm | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 08:37 am     Yesterday before the POV competition, Erika passed by Robert sitting in the bathroom chair by himself looking like a bundle of nerves. She invited him to go into the HOH room, listen to her music, close the door and have some alone time. She's kind to him and then later he won't even stay in the hottub because she was in it? Sheesh. |
What555456 | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 08:41 am     For goodness sake. We ALL know people like Robert. So amazingly insecure that they use bravado about themselves and tears down others to puff themselves up. These people are completely about image. Generally they do not think others would like them for who they are, so they work to improve his image, rather than himself. This is VERY typical of addicts, even those in the early stages of recovery, which is where Robert is. They worry about what others think of them and they use bravado and attacks on others to make themselves look good, rather than accept who they are. It keeps them from doing the hard work to make themselves better human beings. Once they start to accept the reality of themselves and how they have screwed up their lives, they can begin to change themselves. Then the recovery is much more secure and their lives truly change. I don't know how long Robert has been an addict. One thing I have learned about addicts though, is their emotional and psychological development usually stopped when they began their addiction -- generally in their teen years. Rather than deal with the challenges of life, which is how we all mature, they self-medicate themselves with drugs/alcohol when things get rough. Once they are off the drugs/alcohol, they still need to maturel, startng with where they were when they got addicted. If one listens to Robert, one can hear the image consciousness of a high school teenager coming out of an adult's mouth. And he handles it like a teenager -- bravado and tearing down others. Robert has in him the makings of a fine man. He just does not see it yet and so doesn't believe it is possible for others to see it. Therefore, he puffs himself up, tears others down, and hopes no one sees the Robert he sees. It is a sad thing, but very real and very typical. Robert has much to offer, if he spends time strengthening what is good in him rather than worrying about how he is perceived. |
Mizinvanccouver | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 08:54 am     I agree he's insecure but I'm tired of making excuses for these people who use sarcasm and hate towards others to TRY to make themselves look better. (Especially when others are trying to be kind to them!!!) Those types of people cannot be helped until they are ready to change for themselves. Until then, I don't have to agree or condone what he says or does. Seems like in society we don't stand up to these people (or rarely) and just let them continue bringing others down. Me included. I guess I'm just scared of the confrontation because these people are so unpredictable. So now I just avoid those type of people like the plague! |
Spunky | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 09:09 am     Mizinvancouver.. you don't have to be scared of them when you know them so well, even though you're saying they're unpredictable, you know what they are and you will be prepared. Never underestimate your own powers, you may actually help these people see their wrongdoings and help them improve, this won't happen if you avoid them like the plague. What555, what a brilliant assessment of Robert's handicap. I wonder what he'd say if he read it, I could tell from his reaction if he's indeed a hopeless case or not. |
Kmjm | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 09:14 am     I'm with Miz- people like Robert are toxic and extremely adept at sucking you into their game. I avoid them like the plague. I don't think that it's possible for someone else to change another person, many women have married men like Robert and found that out. Robert and his kind have to want to change themselves. The fact that he has quit drinking means there is some hope for him perhaps. |
Mizinvanccouver | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 09:18 am     Spunky--Those who want to be helped I am willing to be there for but those who don't I just don't have time for anymore. I am a nuturer and have/do help others when I can. However there are some that don't deserve my efforts and/or when I am trying to help them bite the hand that feeds them. If it was a close friend or relative I would continue to put forth the effort to help them even if getting bitten but if it's an acquaintance or someone I don't know well yet, they're not worth my time/energy. Just where I'm at these days with helping those types of people. Guess I am burnt out with trying. |
Ryanc829 | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 09:41 am     Spunky - Being in the situation I'm in I'm not sure I agree with your use of the word "handicap." |
Spunky | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 09:51 am     I call it "handicap" because I consider 'addiction to drugs and alcohol' an handicap, it prevents someone from being 'normal'. Robert recognized this serious problem and tried to solve it, he should be commended for trying and succeeding, a year already. However, his behavior in the house makes me doubt of his determination, he may fall back without the necessary counsel and willpower. This is why I would not avoid him like the plague if I could help him in any way. |
Mizinvanccouver | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 10:12 am     Yes...I commend him for his success thus far not drinking alcohol. I'm sure alot of his behaviour in the house is what he's finding out about himself without that substance however I hope he takes the time once he leaves to examine his own actions and take responsibility for himself instead of focusing so much on other peoples flaws. (Look at me, I'm picking on Robert when I should not point fingers and work on my own issues too!lol I have a few vices I enjoy but know it's my way of escaping reality. For example, this website, watching tv, eating excessivley (sometimes)...and I could go on. Thankfully it's not alcohol or drugs but I do have my own vices to run away from my own issues too.) |
Spunky | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 10:51 am     Bless you, Mizinvan.. you're quite 'normal' and I like your candor. We all have those types of addictions.. yes, they're addictions and I'm sure we will get over them if we keep telling ourselves..."all in moderation" over and over... But the fact that we hang out here is because we want to reach out, to share our thoughts to understand further what this is all about. I think it's not a bad thing. |
Mizinvanccouver | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 11:04 am     Spunky--You're absolutely right it's not a bad thing so long as it's not 'excessive'. Like you said,"Everything in moderation." Sometimes when I'm multitasking I think to myself, is it really necessary for me to be doing so many things at the same time? Can I not get enough fulfillment/enjoyment from just doing one thing at a time? Or is it because one thing at a time isn't enough stimulation to escape from reality? I mean quite often when I'm on here I'm doing 3 other things at the same time ie watching tv, messaging friends on msn messenger, eating, cleaning, talking on the phone...you name it. I wonder what I would find out about myself if I forced myself not to watch tv or play on the computer??? Well I don't feel like finding out anytime soon! LOL |
Spunky | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 11:12 am     Multitasking is my specialty!!! Sometimes I wonder if I overestimate myself... and say "What makes me think that if I turn the stove and put the pan on that I can prepare my meat on time to fry and gather the laundry while the meat is marinating.. (yes, the pan is still on the hot stove) and come in here an check on other posts, and answer the phone just because it's cordless and keep going and peel the potatoes at the same time..." Now you got the gist of my multitasking... sometimes ends up really bad!!! Yet, I keep doing it... (oops... people think we're talking about Robert) |
Mizinvanccouver | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 11:18 am     LOL...I'm glad I'm not the only one Spunky! Yes, you are right...back to talking about Robert...what a <LC>! LOL (Just kidding) |
Marymary | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 12:30 pm     It seems to me that those of us who have been a slave to one addiction or another since adolescence, don't get the concept of moderation. I think I have it and then...darn...it's gone. I can identify with Robert on a lot of levels...it IS tough to try to mature at 45. (Speaking for myself.) I was thinking about how he might have been raised...we don't know much about his family, do we? Anyway...I have compassion for his addictive self, but his ugly personality makes me hope that he leaves soon or at least does NOT win any $. |
Xarph | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 01:17 pm     Robert dont know Jack ***t. |
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