Jun's nominations... what she should do..
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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Jun's nominations... what she should do..

Spunky

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 12:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I cannot believe that she will not be told about the POV winner.. When Jee was HOH they knew he had POV before nominations.

So, if Jun knows about Ali having POV she should put Ali and Robert up knowing that Ali could save herself and then she can put Jee up. This way she'll know for sure that Ali won't screw things up for her and her nominations stay as she intended. That's the only way to make sure the stooges alliance is gone for good.

I really don't care if it's Jee or Robert first, one of them will be gone for sure.

Shoegalnj

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 12:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree. That would be the best plan for Jun right now. They'd be better off getting Jee out of there first IMO.

Kaili

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 12:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe not though, just because Jee did doesn't mean anything. When they were doing nominations before the veto, the HOH never knew who would end up with veto until they had the competition. This would be the same thing.

Crazydog

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 12:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I could envision BB telling the houseguests that they are not allowed to indicate to Jun who won the veto. At the same time though, during the pre-nominations, everyone always talks to the HoH and makes their pitch over why they should be saved, etc. I would think those conversations always have speculation about the veto in them. I think it would be hard to not tell her who has it.

Spunky

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 12:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Crazy, that's exactly what I thought as well... it would be ridiculous for Jun not know who already has POV, one way or another she'll figure it out before nominations and she should not leave it up to Ali to decide... oh wow!!

Meme9

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 01:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Jun knows...POV holder is Ali.

Then I hope Jun knows in order to take power away from Ali, she needs to nominate Ali, telling her she can use the veto to save herself. Then when the veto is used, both Stooges will be on the block and Ali can't get a deal with either one of the Stooges. There are drawbacks to this plan, but it is a chance I'd would take.

If Jun doesn't nom Ali, then Ali can use the veto for one of the Stooges...then Jun will have to put up Ericka...that leave Ali and one of the Stooges with the power to vote off Erika.

Crazydog

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 01:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am fearful for Jun. I don't trust Alison at all. I definitely could envision her going over to the Stooges. Just like Jee said to her, who would you rather be in the final three with - the two guys or the two girls? If Jun nominates Robert and Jee, Alison vetoes Jee and Erika is up. Jee and Alison vote off Erika. Next week, no matter who wins HoH, Jun will be put up. The sole vote would be one of Robert, Jee or Alison and Jun will go home.

Jun - DON'T trust Alison!!!!

Meme9

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 01:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun asked who won veto...at least she knows Ali has it...Good for her...she is still playing the game.

Spunky

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 01:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ta ta!!!!

That's exactly as I thought... will Jun be that smart??? Jun, take that power away from Ali!!!!!!!!!!!!

Enfinity

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 01:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
who was nominated for eviction?

R151996

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 01:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nobody........yet

Enfinity

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 01:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks R151

Wgm

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 01:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that she should stick with the Original 8 alliance and put up Robert and Jee. What I really want to know is how can BB have two more episodes with 5 HG'S left in the house unless they are planning to put someone else in?

Meggieprice

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 01:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As I mentioned in another thread, Erika said to Jun "By the way, nothing's changed" and Jun said "Good".

I expect Girl Power stands and Jeebert will be nominated.

Spunky

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 02:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nothing changed ...my foot!!

Why leave the power to Ali??? I hope she'll have time to calm down and use her head!!!!

Mkcantjump

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 02:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Ali were smart she would realize that she needs to take Jun to final two- not Erika and visa versa. These two need to get men out and then Erika. You know Ali can win all remaining HoHs' and I think last year they lifted the ban on competing back to back when it got down to four. I also want to know what CBS is planning for this extended season? I want Jun to win so bad.

Hamsterlady

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 02:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun just said to Ali she was going to put Ali up to make her use the veto so that it would happen to the boys that way. Ali told her real quick about Jee coming to her.

Seamonkey

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 02:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Jun just whispered to Ali about putting Ali up so she can take herself off ..

Sounds like Ali told Jun about Jee's plan..

Hamsterlady

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 02:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun just said nominations are Sunday.

Cameltoes

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 02:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It seems like Jun was offering to put her up if she wanted to keep the boys off her back. Well, Ali obviously didn't fall for Jee's proposal and everything is status quo with the girls alliance.

Meme9

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 02:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Hamsterlady and Sea, I was away for awhile.
That puts a smile on my face.

R151996

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 02:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Eviction on September 3--down to 4
Eviction on September 10--down to 3

If September 17 was the finale, September 12 would have had to be a live eviction show to get down to two. The 3-part final HOH would have had to be done on the 10th-11th-12th similar to last year.

With September 24 being the finale, they have the whole week to do the 3-part HOH for the September 17 eviction down to two. They had a whole week with three left two years ago, and the never-aired episode featured the "tasks around the house" portion of that competition.

With the extra week, all three remaining HGs may get to compete in all three parts as they did two years ago. That would eliminate any possible direct deal-making like Dani pulled last year in the endurance portion.

R151996

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 02:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun is discussing with Ali and Erika her plan to nominate Robert and Ali, so Ali can take herself off with the veto. Jun would then nominate Jee as the replacement.

This leaves Erika totally exposed to being backstabbed by Jun if she makes Erika the replacement nominee instead of Jee. Jun is outright lying to Erika about how Jee knew that Erika was staying instead of Jack.

Seanflynn2003

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 02:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That would rank as one of the all time great BB moments if it would happen; hard to believe that Jun would be convinced the jury would be impressed, even against Robert or Allison in the final two.

Seanflynn2003

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 02:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
On the other hand, it really doesn't make any sense for her to do this otherwise -- she knows that Allison has PoV, so why put her up? So she can gain points with Jee for not putting this up in the first place? Hmmmm..... I think Jun may be the 2nd most likely to win the game if in final two after Erika, so it also makes sense to keep her around as a bigger target next week. The key is her loyalty to Jee, if that even holds, since the vote looks like 2-0 against him, and she can say it is the girl alliance. Jee sure seems to be acting like he knows he's going up and his alliance with Jun is history.

Hamsterlady

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 02:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What she could really do to shake things up is to nominate Robert & Erika. Ali uses the veto to get Erika off. Jun puts up Jee. The girls vote Jee out. hehehehe :)

Pantageas

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 03:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun is making sure that Alison can't make a deal for Alison and Robert to turn on her. Jun is going to be at the mercy of Alison, Erika and whichever guy remains. If she doesn't establish the proper "framework", Jun could find HERSELF 'evicted' next week. While she may be able to to trust Erika, she can't count on Alison or the remaining Stooge(esp. Robert) to keep her in...

Spunky

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 04:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So, she is smart after all... way to go Jun!!!!

Well, I know those guys in the DR are reading here... and giving Jun a hint...

Seamonkey

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 10:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I believe Jun that she thought this up on her own.

She is still vulnerable next week.

I know Erika believes she can beat Ali or Robert but she doesn't want Robert to get a cent. She used to believe she could beat Jun but they all seem to think Jun is suddenly a threat. So Erika wants to bring Ali with her, I think, although she likes Jun better.

I'm confused about Ali.. what a shock. I know they showed her in the Dr saying she had a secret alliance with Jun and couldn't wait to evict Erika, but I suspect that was recorded prior to Jun coming on strong, winning HOH, getting the coveted trip AND coming up with the very clever plan to put Ali and Robert up.. and Jee has been feeding her nonstop messages that Jun is unbeatable. So, There is a threat that Ali could try to boot Jun and take Robert to finals.

Jun could be tempted to put Erika in for Ali instead of putting Jee up, but then Jee and Robert would both be there to vie for HOH with Ali and Ali and Robert for sure would want to boot Jun out of spite, even though they acknowedge that Jee may still be a big threat.
(depends what Jack has said to Dana, Nate and Justin and if they would even pay attention to Jack)