If any of you were in charge of the show. What would you do?
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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: If any of you were in charge of the show. What would you do?
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Draheid

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 03:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hate to point this out but it should be said. As far as a feed from sequestered house, any time they are watching a movie or listening to CDs the feed will probably be cut due to copyright infringement laws. The same as the HGs singing in the 'main' house. :(

Tobor7

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 04:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
After the veto holder used or did not use the veto, there would be a 50/50 chance coin toss that would determine if the HOH or the veto holder had the right to name the new nomination.

Let the live feed subscribers control the cameras. They did this at the US Open once. You got to control a remote cam for 10 mins.

Add audio-only feeds for each HG. So you can follow one HG and listen to WHATEVER he/she says ALL the time. Even in the DR.

Bbwannab

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 04:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
All these suggestions all are really good.
I wish Arnie would read some of them and put them to use next BB year.

Right now, on live feeds, the HG are doing nothing, and this happens all day long!!

Pinky780

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 04:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
To salvage this season: bring Dana back in. Make it impossible that she or Allison be put up for noms, nor can they be HOH for one week. Tell Nathan everything Allison has said about him. Forbid Justin to sleep with any other woman in the house unless he promises to vote to keep her during evictions. That should get things hopping!!

Twiggyish

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 04:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd change my name and go in hiding. (Whoever produces this show is a target)

It seems AS can do nothing right..YET, we all want the show to continue each year. I'd hate it if they permanently cancelled the show.

(Ok, I'll add one suggestion.. next time spread out the age range)

Ric_Munoz

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 05:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I would make it mandatory that they rotate their bedroom assignments--every 2 or 3 days, let's say--esp. if it forces "sworn enemies" to share sleeping quarters. I agree that it will make things much more interesting if the HGs are kept constantly off-balance as they try to settle into their comfort zones. As a matter of fact, BB should wipe out comfort zones altogether!

Corriecat

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 05:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I would put Big Brother back in charge as well. The houseguests would not know the producers names. They would not be able to speak to BB any time they wanted to unless there was a serious situation in the house. BB would punish them for breaking rules, not necessarily with penalty noms but by taking things away like the hot tub or basketball.

Food competition would be for money or for lists of items that they could shop from like in BB1. They would have to work together to plan meals and a shopping list. Also they could give up food to buy cigarettes, hair dye, shampoo etc.

Occasionally the veto would be a special veto that had to be used but they wouldn't know in advance if it was that type or not.

No whispering, codes, other languages or book pointing.

Week long group projects to force them to work together on something.

Premium internet feeds - pay a little more to see DR feeds. Also internet subscibers get to vote on one of the 2 nominees. One vote per real player subscription. Internet vote is revealed and the HOH has to choose the second person on the spot live.

Xarph

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 05:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The show has turned into a frat party. I watched the feeds some last night and not much at all today. I have heard all the teasing of Jee I need. I have had all the gloating of stooges that I can stand. I have had quite enough of Jun's unkind cuts behind people's back. I have seen all the whining from Nate that I can take. I have reached my limits of FOTHs hiding the producers manipulations.

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Beruthiel

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 05:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with returning to the original concept of Big Brother.
The only thing the show has in common with Orwell's novel is that they are watched 24/7. Big Brother should not only be the boss, but be scary too, the source of everything good and bad in the house.
There should be arbitrary rules, which when broken, will provoke immediate sanctions.
Beyond the harem effect of being kept from the world, all they have to worry about is the meanness of each other.
They should be working hard for their keep, not sunbathing and sleeping until noon, with the occasional five minute competition thrown in, and getting paid for it.
It gets to me when I watch Survivor and the Amazing Race, and how those contestants really suffer for their possible pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, yet these spoilt babies think they have it tough. What a joke!

Costacat

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 05:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Give up the ghost. Cut bait (cause fishing ain't working). Get off the pot. Throw the baby out with the bathwater. Heck, just throw the baby out!

Chai

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Make sure that each potential HG is screened by an expert psychologist and do very throrough background checks to make sure that no one poses a threat to the others, and that they can stand the strain and boredom of living in the habitrail for so long.

I would also allow banners, etc.

I would have a much more diverse cast, as far as ages, ethnicities and personalities.

I would hire cast based on personality, not looks/ youth.

Give the HG's week-long tasks and challenges, and more to do in general. Bored HG's = bored audience. These challenges would be for luxury items like a pool table, or a visit by a professional masseuse (sp), etc.

Audience would vote for eviction.

Free LF's

I would let the HG's keep up on current events by videotapes of news carefully monitered so that no BB news filters in. (Like BB is news anyway! LOL!) It should make for more stimulating conversations. I know the point of BB is that the HG's are isolated, but they would still be isolated from family and loved ones, and from every other form of personal contact with the outside world.

Allow reading material. After all, what would it hurt? Just make sure that no magazines or newspapers contain BB articles, and that the HG's are told clearly that they may not use reading material to communicate in anyway, by pointing at words, etc. This also might make for some more stimulating conversations.

HG's would face penalties or be banned from the house for certain infractions. I would absolutely follow through. Perhaps one penalty might be for a HG to go to BB bootcamp for a day or a week...for infractions like eating something other than pb&j on a pb&j week. Hehe!

The penalty for two HG's trying to use foreign languages, sign language, secret codes, or any secret form of communication would be for an announcement to be made in the house that two or more HG's were communicating secretly, and for the communcation to be translated or decoded for the other HG's. Whispering would be allowed, of course, as long as the microphones could pick it up for the LFers!

I would make absolutely certain that the challenges were not weighted towards any particular HG. Ugh! That has been so blatant the last couple of years.

I don't think I'd break up the food comps into teams. Either the whole house would eat well, or eat only pb&j.

No promotional fast food meals in the house!!!!! Ugh!!! No promtional items in the house, period! BB needs to earn its keep by commercial airtime just like any other show, not by sneaking in promotions.

Pirate

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd bring back the weekly challenges.

Punishment for breaking the rules would be that they couldn't participate in either the luxury competition or the veto competition.

Marej

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 08:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
On the live show; surprise them by offering visits on the phone, offering them money, etc.--with conditions; but they have to choose quickly and not in the diary room.

Planelady14

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 08:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree about reading material. Maybe just books. That way noone can get any BB info. Books would be a good thing! And I agree, it might stimulate some wonderful converstaions and keep them focused. Right now they eat and pick on each other out of boredom. BB could even make a library of approved reading materials and the guests can chose from what is offered in the BB library.

Laisey

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 10:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
One of the very few improvements over BB1 (INMHO) was the banning of books. In BB1 there would be long, long periods of silence because the HGs were reading.

Mzcruella

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 10:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know where to post this but here's a link with the email addy for BB5 you can write with suggestions for next year's shows. http://www.bb4bbq.com/

Thought this would be as good a place as any, but, Mods, if you think it fits better somewhere else, feel free to move it. I hated to start a new thread.

Maris

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 10:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
And why would that message board be better than this one? I am sure that CBS checks all the popular message boards and then ignores all the suggestions. lol

Bohawkins

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 10:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I would have several endurance type contests, leading up to one amazing, killer, end all "Hands on a Hard Body" type of contest.

What started off this endurance competition concept, or at least defined it best, was a prize winning documentary film called "Hands on a Hard Body" about a contest where people in the Texas town of Longview competed by having to keep at least one hand on a Nissan pickup truck. In spite of the sexually suggestive name, the only hard body belonged to the truck you would win. The last person who didn't move their hand won the truck. You can search for that name on Google if you would like to learn more about it.

Big Brother in previous seasons has done it three times starting with Kent winning the vehicle for staying in longest, then the one where Nicole moved her hand from the key on the waterbed, and then one with the boat in the simulated rain. Survivor has had a few, like people standing on posts and similar events.

My thought is that this concept can be done a lot better and in far a more exciting way than anything previously constructed. My suggestion is that the producers research all of the previous contests done like this and come up with one that beats anything ever done before, one that would last over a several day period.

With Arnold's documentary expertise, he could do the best one ever conducted. If it blows away previous endurance events it could get publicity in all the media. There could be updates on the evening news. Radio stations around the country would tell what is happening (they would slip it in between the Kobe updates). LA news helicopters would fly over to try to get the up to the minute status (unless, of course, there was another one of those important two hour car chases on the freeway).

I would, starting right now, have the BB staff (they have 200 people in the production of this show) thinking and contributing to try to create the world greatest endurance contest.

Wadsters

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 11:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank you Mzcruella,

I took the time to find the part you were refering to, interesting.

Thanks for the post...Yes, this is as good a thread as any :)

R151996

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 11:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
A few suggestions if there is a BB5:

1) Have the winner of the HoH competition done immediately after each eviction (same as now) win IMMUNITY from nomination before AUDIENCE VOTING begins. No one would throw this competition because of immunity. As now, the HoH would only vote for evictions to break a tie. Since the public nominates, the HoH would be eligible for to compete for HoH again the next week.

2) Use POSITIVE public voting. The three HGs with the fewest audience votes to stay in the house would be the nominees.

3) Hold the veto competition BEFORE the players know who is nominated. The veto holder would be REQUIRED to save one of the three HGs nominated by the audience. Everyone would go for the veto in case they--or someone they are aligned with--are nominated. HoH would be ineligible to compete in all but the last the veto competition since they are immune from nomination.

4) Public voting is not conducted the weeks there are only four and three players left. With four left, the HoH is the only HG not nominated but HoH can win the veto.

5) If there is a desire to keep Diary Room convos confidential, sequester ALL of the evictees. That way there is no "I made it to sequestering" goal. Play to win or don't play. This would also allow the players to know before signing on that they would be committed for the duration of the series (unbelievable that Jee wasn't fully aware of sequestering). Otherwise, release the hamsters after eviction and call them back for the vote with full knowledge.

6) Start the game with 12 players--6 men and 6 women--instead of the odd-number disaster of 13 this year.

7) All 10 evictees vote for the winner to count half of the 20 total votes. The other 10 votes are given to the audience and count 0.1 vote for each 1 percent (60% would be 6.0 votes) of the total cast by the public. A 6-4 HG vote for one finalist could be overturned by a 61%-39% audience vote for the other finalist, but not by a 59%-41% vote.

Several other ideas already mentioned, including bringing back weekly tasks and a shopping budget, should also be used.

Sasman

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 11:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
R15.... You have a lot of great ideas here, especially about the veto comp!

Mzcruella

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 12:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
<<And why would that message board be better than this one? I am sure that CBS checks all the popular message boards and then ignores all the suggestions. lol >>

I didn't mean, Maris, another web site. It's all ready *at* another message baord. I meant another thread here in TVCH.

And I couldn't agree more with you about ignoring all suggestions! LOL! I can see them printing them out to use for toilet paper....

To get back to the topic here....I'd let banners fly over the house and actually penalize them for breaking rules (foreign languages, deals to split the money, etc). And I'd let the sequestered HGs see tapes from all shows. Let them see how right or wrong they were in trusting each other.

Maris

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 12:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I dont like banners and never did. Banner's warning the other HGs about one HG interfere with the game. Think about how many things were going on so far that a banner could have blown. Dana could have been warned about Robert and Jun. Nate could have been warned about Ali. Every "secret" alliance would be blown.

Marej

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 02:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
When Nate goes into the diary room; they should ask him if he wants to leave. He's not a happy camper. And if he says yes; have him leave right then and see how the others react.

Wilsonatmd

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 07:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
R151996, I had an idea on the final vote similar to that...
All HGs are sequestered. Each evicted HG is given 10 coins to work with. (since Scott was DQ'd this would mean there would be 10 people and 100 coins)When it it is their turn to vote, they go into the a private room with a large scale with 2 boxes, one for each of the finalists, They can then split their 10 coins any way they want (they must use all 10), whether it's 10 for one and 0 for the other, 8 for one and 2 for the other, or 5 for each of them. Before the jury votes, the audience gets to vote for who they want to win, and they get 100 coins, 1 per vote percentage (so if a finalist got 55% of the vote from the audience, they would get 55 coins). On the final night, Julie would go to each jury person and ask how they split, and there would be a running total. After all 10 had given their splits, you would know half of the 200 coins that would be available (100 for the jury, 100 for the home audience) and how it was split, so the HG's would know what % of the audience vote someone owuld need to win.....the scales would then be brought out, but a pin would be placed so it would appear balanced, and on a signal, the pin would be removed, and the person on the heavier end of the scale would win. The audience % could be revealed later. (thus a person needs 101 out of the 200 possible couns to win...a 100-100 tie is unlikely, but you could decide which group breaks it-I'd say audience breaks it because they can do the phone vote in tenths of a % point in needed)

The HG's being able to split their vote would work because a person might not have a big preference on who would win, and might just split their coins down the middle...or might split them 9-1 or even 10-0 to one person.....and the audience would have an equal say in who won. (BTW audience vote would be a tollfree # and on the Internet -limit of 3 votes per phone line and email address)