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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: ** TONIGHT'S SHOW -- AUGUST 1 ** SPOILERS **: Archive through August 01, 2003

Bastable

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 06:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Poser--yeah, that's what I mean. Nate's a Christian, and that is also what Ali is pretending to be. And Jesus preached that "an eye for an eye" was the wrong way to live. You're supposed to turn the other cheek. Anyone know the verse?

Seamonkey

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 06:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
guess it is over?

Thanks for the spoiling.. sounds like a typical Friday episode, nothing new.

Cliotheleo

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 06:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kind of Bastable. The old testament says....

Exodus 21:22-36
22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. 23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, 24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

But the New Testament says.....

Matthew 5:38-42
38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

I'm a Church of Christ girl, we only follow the New Testament, so I subscribe to the latter. I also like Dr. King's philosophy that......

"The old law of an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind. It is immoral because it seeks to humiliate the opponent rather than win his understanding; it seeks to annihilate rather than convert. Violence is immoral because it thrives on hatred rather than love. It destroys community and makes brotherhood impossible. It leaves society in monologue rather than dialogue. Violence ends by defeating itself. It creates bitterness in the survivors and brutality in the destroyers."

And there's my moral lesson for the evening. (Wishing I had an insightful Elvis comment to cap this off.) :)

Cinder

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 06:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought this episode gave us more personal information to let us get to know the houseguests, but I was shocked they aired Jun's "montage" and Ali's comment about Nate.

Cliotheleo

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 06:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah Cinder, I DO feel bad for Nate and how that comment's gonna hurt him when he sees it. Ali's supposed to be his friend. Poor little Headcheesey.

Hamsterlady

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 06:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I loved this episode too. Almost as good as the last one. :)

(BTW, got the pic size down for easier loading for the next show. Sorry Catfat and others.)

Bastable

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 06:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cliotheleo, thanks! That's exactly that I thought... Nate's Bible is the Christian one, which tells true Christians not to take "an eye for an eye." ("whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also."-- i.e., turn the other cheek).

So hearing Ali quote it when she nominated Dana just seals her hypocrisy (ignorance?) concerning Christian behavior.

Cathie

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 06:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Was anyone else flabbergsted by June's DR speech after the noms? She was upset that Ali put up two of the original 8 instead of one or two of the exes. Does she not realize that the stand she and Dana took last week removed them from the original 8, and that she was perfectly happy when Dana nominated two of the 8 last week???

Cinder

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 06:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I know Cathie. She has reminded Dana of the same thing whenever Dana says anything about it. Jun is a good player.

Cliotheleo

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 06:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well .......... the Christian Bible contains both the Old and New Testaments. The majority of Christians often use both Testaments as law. I go through this all the time since my denomination doesn't use instruments in our worship services. Other denoms (Baptist, Methodist, what have you) argue that there were harps, trumpets etc. used in the Old Testament so there's not anything wrong with them. But we (Church of Christ) ONLY follow the New Testament as law and like I said, we're in the minority with that.

I don't say all that to open a theological debate, just to say that Ali citing something from the Old Testament (which she technically WASN'T doing, that was my comment on her remark) isn't all that uncommon.

Good gracious!!!!! WHY am I defending Ali!!!! WHAT is WRONG with me!!!!! :)

Kalekona

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 06:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Many Christians like Nate use laws from the Old Testament to condon their own prejudice, often times forgetting the teachings of Christ in their Vain attempt to be "God fearing Christians, whose values are better than others"
As a true Christian this is the worst kind of Testimony and the most offensive use of Gods words.

ok stepping off soapbox,
Elvis has left the building.

Cathie

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 06:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't follow the live feeds, but I usually catch the show. It sounds like Dana was PO'd last week because Nathan vetoed Ali's nomination, saying that he owed her (Dana) because she saved him by not nominating him. Wasn't Nathan the first HOH? By her reasoning, wouldn't that mean everyone except Jee owes Nathan for not nominating them? They may as well all leave and let Nathan and Jee duke it out!

Twiggyish

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 06:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I cannot stand so called Christians who make themselves judges over others..to me that is the worst kind of evil.

Julieboo

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 06:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought tonight's TV episode was GREAT!!!

Cathie

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 06:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cliotheo, when I first scanned your post <<Other denoms (Baptist, Methodist, what have you)>> I mis-read denoms as "demons", lol. I thought, oh, no, Dani is back!!!!!!!

Just call me one of those Methodist demons... :)

Bluerose

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 06:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
When isn't Miss Dana po'ed? We won't have to see her face after next Wednesday and Twig, I agree, I cannot stand the holier than thou born again people either.

Jigglywigglyjun

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 06:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I loved the Jun munching part on BB tonight... Kudos to BB for putting that on the show tonight! The before and after pics of Jun were hilareous... Im still laughing!.. CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP Jun!

Kalekona

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 06:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
lol cathie i read it the same way at first. :)

Hang on bluerose, I'm a Born Again Christian and we are not all like Nate or Pat Robertson. lol Some of us are even rational and logical.

Twiggyish

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 06:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It was a good show! I especially enjoyed the Jack montage.

Cricket

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack once again cracked me up tonight. LOL, wish Jack would have said he usually arrests people with tatoos in front of them. That was a good part of the show; great editing. LOL at Dana that people without tattoos are insecure. I feel it's more the opposite.

Didn't Ali make a deal with Jun in the HOH? Jun wouldn't nominate Ali if she got HOH next week (yeah, like that's gonna happen) but NATHAN not included in deal. Wait until that gets back to him, because it will. Evil music on Ali, lol. She is not being fair to Nate. How stupid is Ali to let the other side see any cracks in the alliance of her, Nate, J & E. I agree with Jack on how it should have gone. Robert would have taken Justin off since he won the veto, but Dana would still be there. However, now if he takes Dana off, Ali will have to put Jee up. Jun and Jee up...that would be interesting. Jun would probably go. Dana and Justin will still be in the house and Ali is screwed.

I was surprised to see them do a whole section on Jun's weight. She is going to be embarrassed when she gets out and sees that on TV; maybe mad too. I understand gaining weight, but not that thing she was wearing for a bathing suit AFTER she gained weight. Not attractive at all.

Dogdoc

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cathie, I read it the same way you did at first and saw demons. I don't want to be a demon! I am still trying to figure out if I am a Beetles or an Elvis. Actually I am a Pat Boone.

Bluerose

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well I am Catholic and you will not see Catholic's on this board pushing their religous thoughts. That is just so not nesessary.

Catfat

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank you, Hamsterlady. I didn't mean to be a complainer, because I really enjoy looking at the pictures and being a small size will make it easier for my poor old PC to download.
Great picture of Dana and her smirky face, by the way.

Naja

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I found it funny how they made sure to include a whole long segment on Ali telling Justin that Nate is Gay...Yet completely left out that Justin ran to Dana and the stooges and that was the first thing he blabbed to them. They made it look like he went back to the room alone with Dana, sat quietly with her, and really did keep everything ALi said a secret like she asked him to. That was so twisted and misrepresented..LOL

Edited because I had Nates name where Justins was supposed to be.

Bonnyswan

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey Cricket....ever been to Maine?