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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: The most disgusting BB night ever.: Archive through July 29, 2003

Xarph

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 02:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have been listening to the Dana and the stooges most of this evening. I am totally revolted. They spent hours ripping everyone on the other side behind their backs. Dana has built up a horrible ammount of hate for Nate. That hate is spilling over to the others - Especially Jun.

The final insult came when Robert told Erika that Dave was leaving. Erika went in to talk to Dana. Jun was there. Erika was crying about loosing Dave. She was expressing genuine emotions for Dave. She was concerned that his goal was to become sequestered and earn the money. Dana and Jun were oh so sympathetic saying they were really sorry that Nate forced them to banish Dave.

After Dana, Jun and the stooges were laughing about the meeting with Erika. Jun was swearing that Erika was faking the tears and saying that Dave had sent her in for one final attempt. They were laughing about what good actors they had been with Erika.

I found myself loathing Dana and Jun in ways that I had never felt about Reality Show cast member. I am actually a bit sick to my stomach after witnessing this train wreck.

I really do feel it would be in my best emotional interest to walk away from BB4 right now. I am telling myself that I will walk away if Ali or Nate does not get HOH. Any other HOH would just increase the nastiness from the group. On the other hand if Ali or Nate do get HOH the rattiness could get even worse.

I do not know what I am going to do, but I am truely disgusted. Maybe writing this will make me feel a little better.

Thanks for listening.

Bohawkins

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 03:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
So is the new twist that the banished houseguest will be executed? Must be... otherwise who could explain why anyone could get so worked up about it. Funny thing is I knew someone would be going.. and amazingly I knew it would be either Jack or Dave.

If it had been Jack then they would have been beating each other up over that. It really is a big yawn to me. It reminds me of that movie where the guy woke up every morning with no memory of the past. It's like no one (posters or houseguests) remember that one leaves every week and they go back to their boring lives. It's no big deal.

R151996

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 03:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I also listened to as much of the filth coming from Dana, Jun, and company as I could stand before switching to the united group of 5 in the desert bedroom.

All four of the remaining Elites will be going for HoH, not just Ali and Nate. And Justin will be their first target with possibly now Jun even before Dana.

Revenge could be very sweet.

Missy2

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 04:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I missed it...I hate when BB gets like this but if you remember last years crew was very mean about Gerry. Lots of cruel Gerry bashing. You would think that people would learn that this sort of behavior does NOT make them look good on the feeds. When I was in high school I used to bad mouth people like this but as an adult I can't stand hearing people who do this, its so cruel and makes them look horrible.

Tdot

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 04:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I would like to say that I agree and want to add that what Ali had to say about Dana is just as bad. I watched her whine and moan yesterday to Nate about how her day was miserable because she was having to use all her energy not to punch Dana in the face. These people need to get over themselves. I have new found respect for Erika, Robert, Jack and Justin. They seem to keep their mouths shut for the most part and leave the b!tching to the girls of the house. More and more I hope Robert teams up with Erika and Jack. Now that we've seen what's going on with these houseguests verbally berating each other, I wish they weren't sequestered so that they could see how silly they all look.

Naja

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 05:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I truly believe it is Dana that set the stage for all this hate and the others just fell into it. She is too loud to ignore and not be affected by. I can't put the blame for this hate fest on anybody but Dana. Jack and Erika are the only 2 old enough to know how not to fall into it. That is not a slam against the younger players. I just know how it is. For example, when I visit my younger cousin and she is home alone, she is as wonderful as can be. But, when I happen to catch her while her one Dana-ish pal is over, jeez she starts acting the same way and I have to tell her to listen to the crap she is spewing. She doesn't even realize it. IMO it's one of those things like "Wow I like that person, but they sure are a jerk when they are around so-and-so too long". Dana, go home :(

Maris

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 05:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think you are all very naieve if you believe that with Dana out of the house the hate will stop. If Dana left tomorrow, I am pretty confident that you will be saying the same thing about Alison.

When Nate, Alison, et all were on top in the house they were pretty free with their psychobitch, •••••••• and other comments. It is just that they are now down in numbers and know they have to regroup. Alison is telling them to not be like them because she knows she has to try and strike some alliance with the group. She can see that unless her group wins HOH this week, they are all going to be picked off.

If She or Nate do not win HOH watch Ali make an approach to Dana and try and blame everything on the departed Dave. She will wait for her moment and then go after Dana. Dont underestimate the the beauty pageant contestant. She has a lot of experience to fall back on.

I dont think Dana can be the only one blamed for all this and I believe that Jun is the one calling the shots. Jee, Robert and Justin know that Nate and Ali were out to get them. They didnt need any prompting to spew venom about Nate and Ali. Jun also knows that Ali had targetted her. Lets look at this for what it is, it is a group of people who were all targeted by Nate and Ali. They made the right strategic move by banding together but it invariably results in feeding off each other. It is not one persons fault.

My money is on either Nate or Ali winning HOH and see how the game turns and who is spewing venom at whom. It seems to go with the HOH room this year. I dont recall this sort of king-of-the- world behavior in other years.

Jadar

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 05:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It's not one sided, you know. I just heard Alli/Nate/Erika and Dave being just as nasty as Dana, if not more so. Example: Erika saying how she didn't like Jun from the beginning and didn't want to talk to her, how much she hated her... Yesterday Erika called her stupid Asian lady from hell and Dave squinted his eyes, saying "chinky eyes. She's damn ugly. She's disgusting".
ALL of them are cheering Alli on about punching Dana's face when they get out. Erika "oh pretty please?" Talking about what great punches Alli has, and could easily knock Dana down. On and on, even Jack joined in some.

There's so much nasty things being said on both sides, it's not even amusing. And Jack is even joining in the spiteful, hate bashing, which is a big disappointment.

Alli and her group are actually congratulating themselves for being the better people for not stooping to their level!

Erika's chanting, "man troll, man troll, man troll. I'm going to call her that to her face....don't you know I'm so much smarter and better than you?"

Before anyone starts jumping on me because I post negatively about everyone's favorite group (elites), I think they it's not enjoyable to watch their arrogance, self-righteousness and pettiness. They are just as bad as Dana's group.
I must say this has been, by far, the worst BB season ever. It's petty and boring. Alli does bring more drama by staying, but it's as enjoyable to watch as seeing pitbulls fight. Pittbull fights are vicious, mean and pitiful.

Thank goodness RealOne gave me a Free one month Trial Pass. After trial is over, this once-devoted BB fan from every season is out. This has got to be the most petty and bigoted group ever. And watching them makes me feel like a complete loser for wasting my summer. No wonder Letterman doesn't want them on.

Sorry to say this but even the boards are really boring this year. Enjoy!

Naja

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 05:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, I am not naive and wouldn't call anyone on the board that even if I thought it :) An occasional negative comment from a player is quite different than the 24/7 loud spewing of hatred that Dana does. When Nate was HOH, he did not spew hatred 24/7, nor Did Jee. None of them did until they were around Dana too long. They slowly took on a little of Dana's personality from being around it too long. JMO.

Maris

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 06:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Jadar and I have never been a supporter of BB stepping in but this group seems bent on a path of self destruction. Whether it started with Scott which set the tone for the house, I don't know. If either Alison or Dana are not put out of that house soon I think there will be a fight.

I also agree about the boards being boring but the boards are a reflection of the show. There is nobody to champion in the house. They are all lowlife, even Jack. He has been joining in with his comments ever since he was put on the block and I suspect he will regret some of the things he has said.

Erika's comments about Jun are not all that shocking and I am wondering whether those who argued "intent" as they did when she made the comments about Jee, can now admit that she is as much a bigot as the rest of them in that house.

I dont watch the feeds as much either, I rely on the live feed posts or I turn them on late at night. At this point I would give anything just to watch Monica play solitare, I swear I would.

Costacat

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 06:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
OMG, please PLEASE bring back Monica playing solitaire! Any semblance of normalcy would be ever so welcome!!!

Sasman

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 06:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sadly, the boards being boring are just a reflection of how boring this BB is.

I think the main reason for this is the ex-factor. I thought at first that this was going to be a very interesting twist but was I wrong. The nastiness started with Robert and Erika. At the very least it was a big mistake to not have all 13 HGs enter the house at the same time.

Maris

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 06:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Naja, I dont think saying someone is naive is an insult. Further, I stated that IF people think the hatred will stop, they are naive. It is a valid thought and not an insult. There are a lot worse things to be called than naive.

Naja

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 06:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, for sure I have been called worse :) LOL!

Cricket

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 06:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris stated:
"When Nate, Alison, et all were on top in the house they were pretty free with their psychobitch, •••••••• and other comments."

Yeah, but Maris, that is true. :) Just kidding in a way, but I do think Dana has some problems. She seems to be insanely jealous of the 'cute' girls/women. She just goes way over the top. I think the other side is feeling like they can't talk to her.

Xarph, your post was excellent and I feel the same way. I'm cancelling my live feeds tonight. It gets to me too much to see Dana and Jun and crew go on and on and on. Enough already. I had a priest once who in his sermon said "Garbage in; garbage out." If you listen to enough of their swearing, you start doing it yourself. Now, everyone on the Stooge side is starting to sound just like Dana. I don't like Jun either, because she is very, very sneaky. Just wait until she dumps Dana when it isn't beneficial to her.

As far as what Jack was saying yesterday, I may have felt bad had he not gone back to the group and told them everything they talked about. Remember, he and Dave are trying to make the other side think they are really mad at Nate and Ali, but they have already told Nate and Ali what the gig is, so I'm not paying that much attention to what Dave and Jack say in front of the Stooge group as being turncoat.

I sure hope Erika votes for Dave to stay if he is going and Jack if he is going. Whoever is going should at least get her vote. Actually, Erika, Nate and Ali should vote for the opposite person, just to shake Dana up. Can you imagine her eyes when Julie announces a vote for the wrong person? That will be something to see.

If Dana's group gets HOH next week, I won't be watching any more.

Goddessatlaw

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 06:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hell, I've been called worse just in the past half hour. Maris, you can call me naive all day every day, just don't call me late for dinner.

Marej

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 06:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Have they forgotten that everything they say is being taped, etc. and that when they get out and are shown what they have said--they say they are
"shocked". I hope that Dana's friends are looking for a hole for Dana to hide in when she get's out.
They need lots and lots of activities; to much time to sit around and *itch to each other. This is going down the rabbit hole real fast and it's freakin' boring.

Dke1212

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 07:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
They've all said some nasty stuff, I think some are worse than others, and I don't like any remarks that sound even remotely predjudice. Danas been on the receiving end more than the others, which in my opinion is unfair. I never liked the alliance of 8, and I agreed with Dana about the X's being more likable. I thought David was funny for a time, but that wore off. Jun is the smartest one there game wise, and I hope she is in the final two with Jee or Dana. I know most of you prefer the original alliance, but I hope they go down one by one!

Vskatefan

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 07:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have the feeds, but don't watch as much as I thought I would(yet). How much of the stuff said this year rivals the cruel, personal stuff people like Marcellas and Dani spewed last year?

Laura11103

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 07:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Funny, last season I thought Marc and Dani were the most disgusting HG's ever...

Maris

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 07:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
There wasnt the bigotry and homophobic comments like there were last year. Marcellas had his entertaining moments and Danis comments while nasty seemed calculated and not based on real emotions. Dani was putting on an act, an unsuccessful one as it turns out. These people are what they seem, pretty vicious.

The worst to me is Nathan. He reads the passages looking for really nasty things to say about people and for passages that support his views of the other side. I find it disgusting the way he and Alison read the bible together, not for any enlightenment or faith purposes, but for ammunition and justification for their behavior.

Sisalou

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 07:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think CBS will need to send in Marcellus with lots of burning sage after this year.

(He was the one talking about sage wasn't he?)

Deb833

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 08:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I totally agree with the title of this thread. It's been very hard finding someone to like, they are all so awful. They are also the most boring group.....I wish I had gotten a free month from Real as I would like to cancel mine too, but I'm not going to throw away $25.

I guess this is what happens when BB finds the hamsters at the mall instead of the applications submitted.

Eeyoreslament

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 08:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Let's not forget the pure high-school nastiness that came out of Shannon in BB2. How she tormented Autumn, and then the toothbrush incident. She was no pillar of sensitivity.

Sherbabe

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 08:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have noticed that if bad mixes with good, the bad (usually) always takes over.

I have a dinner scheduled tonight, and won't mind missing this show.