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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Alison & Jun are making me embarrassed to be female!: Archive through September 05, 2003

Friktion

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 05:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They are unbelievable! They HATE Erika for doing something they would both jump at a chance for - getting into Robert's good graces for this week. I used to hope either Jun or Erika would win. I now definitely hope Erika wins this, and will have a lot of trouble watching Alison or Jun win now.

Maris

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 05:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Frik be patient, you will see Erika get down and dirty before this is over. She can be pretty venomous when the situation calls for it.

Cablejockey

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 05:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Every other word out of their mouths is being bleeped out. Too bad this wasn't being piped into jury house.
Omg, jun with the massaging--Rob with the horny thoughts!!!

Justalittlebean

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 05:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It's called JEALOUSY Friktion. I agree, they are unbelievable. I'm embarrassed too.

Mizinvanccouver

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 05:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Uggggghhhh....that sounds utterly disgusting! I was fearing the 'kissing up to Robert' once he won HOH.

Earthmother

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 05:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This is how children behave when the worm turns and they find themselves in vulnerable situations that they didn't have a problem putting others in...blame it on everyone but themselves.

If they would stop being so petty and think about it..it's not Erika kissing up to Robert, it's the other way around. Even when Robert professed his hate for Erika she didn't openly say cruel things about him.

These 2 girls need to remember that they had secret alliences with their exs long before Rob and Erika.

Cameltoes

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 05:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Exactly Earthmother. Erika's alliance is basically the result of Robert no longer wanting her out of the house and detesting Ali and Jun. Ali and Jun had deals with their Exes for weeks so they just come across as bitter and jealous because Erika is in the position she is and their Exes are long gone. What gets me is the fact that Erika told Jun and Ali that she wanted Robert out first. I recall Ali and Jun cackling about "who cares what she wants, we will get Jee out" and finally they got Erika to agree. They have only themselves to blame.

Tobor7

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 06:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah. Only themselves to blame.

Fabnsab

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 06:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Erikas mother should be proud of her. She has conducted herself in a very classy manner. These girls are disgusting and jealous. They are blaming her for thinking of herself when they KNOW they're not thinkning of her. They wanted her out this week before they knew who won HOH. Why is their strategy more important than hers? God, I was screaming at the TV! This has to be bad for my health...lol

Busydizzle

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 06:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Who knows if Ali and Jun are sharing how they really feel? Case in point: Ali calls Jun a b*tch to Erika while calling Erika a b*tch to Jun. They're all just saying what they think the other person wants to hear, not necessarily what they truly feel deep down. To really know that we'd have to be psychic!

Friktion

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 06:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Busy - that's exactly what's bothering me. The non-stop spewing of venom. And it's not even heartfelt - geez! Imagine if they really had it in for each other ... And did somebody actually mention that Ali had her ex, Justin, beat up after they broke up? Now THAT'S scary!

Texasdeb

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 06:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Clearly, Erika is not bad mouthing Ali or Jun to the other (no b*tch words used). Jun went down on my "want to win" list. I REALLY do want a Erika/Robert final!

Seamonkey

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 06:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
But why just Ali and Jun??? Erika has badmouthed Ali to Jun and Robert and used to badmouth Jun to Ali but I think she actually is seeing just how much Ali is making up, so listens and says "why would you do that?"

Also realize that Erika has also had supposed alliance with Jun, with Ali and with Jun AND Ali, so when she goes with Robert, naturally it bugs them.. Erika was just as "upset" at the idea of Jun and Jee's alliance.

I'm basing this on unedited listening to live feeds not whatever is "produced" on TV.

At this point in the game "Everyone Snarks" is just as good a book title as "Everyone Poops".

Mkcantjump

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 06:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just remember that it was Erika that called Jee a little Korean alien or some such thing when he put her up for eviction the first time. Erika isn't exactly Carol Brady either. That's ok, I always hated the Brady Bunch.

Earthmother

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 06:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sea I think the ire of most regarding the convos with Ali and Jun is the venim not the anger. They are all doing what needs to be done to stay alive and of course that means badmouthing each other. Unfortunately Jun and Ali take badmouthing to a whole new level. It's one thing to accuse the other of being a traitor and another to call them 4 letter words every breath.

Mkcantjump

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 06:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think it's very nice to put down someones heritage either.

Earthmother

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 06:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think anyone here is saying that Erika is better, she has certainly made her mistakes, ie, the Jee comment, but overall she has conducted herself in a more mature fashion without using 4 letter explitives in every discussion.

Wendo

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 06:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"She (Erika) has conducted herself in a very classy manner."

Well, I don't know if I would agree that Erika's behaved in a classier manner than Ali and Jun. I've heard some b**ch words come out of her mouth too.

What I found interesting on tonight's show, though, was how it was Jun who started the b**ch comments when she and Ali were talking. Didn't realize that.

Reichenfan8

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 06:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
am i the only one not surprised that the girls are totally turning on each other and calling each other names behind each others' backs? because i totally saw this coming as soon as the three of them formed their little "angel" alliance. the truth of the matter is, none of them have a genuine friendship, they all just aligned together because they had to in order to survive.

and while ali and jun do most of the trash-talking in tonight's episode, i would have to argue that erika is no saint. as mkcantjump mentioned, erika totally badmouthed jee after he put her up. i believe she said "korean piece of s***" and "fresh off the boat m***** f*****" ... which, in my book, is about as bad as it gets.

Mkcantjump

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 06:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Rie. I didn't even know her comments were as bad as that. Nice one Erika.

Gina8642

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 07:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm offended by the name of the thread. What exactly does playing kiss up to the HOH have to do with being female? I've seen the males of this game to the exact same thing.

Avrey258

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 07:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Erika's comment which was said the first week in the diary room and aired on the television show, also made the T.V. guide. I guess it is going to live on. No matter how many times Ali and Jun call her a b!tch and a s!ut, that comment will trump a million profanities? Is that how it is going to be?

Nexell2

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 07:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good point Gina.

Caycaye

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 07:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Earthmother and Fabnsab are RIGHT ON!!!!! Seamonkey...I watch unedited feeds almost 24-7 also..so you MUST agree that in COMPARISON, Erika is MUCH more classy and FAR less of a name-caller than Ali or Jun. And what it ALL boils down to from DAY 1..is JEALOUSY. First week on...Jun and Ali talked soooo ugly about Erika because she had breast implants...etc. Erika never had a bad word to say about either one of them. They decided to hate Erika right off when Robert talked ugly about Erika, because they WANTED to hate her. They were already TORN up with jealousy. From that time on..I haven't really admired Jun or Ali and I haven't yet changed my mind.

Caycaye

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 07:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Reichenfan8...If you watched the feeds when the Erika explosion happened...It was half an attempt at joking and half an attempt at blowing off steam. The really WRONG thing about ALL of that was that CBS edited it that way. Right before Erika spouted off...Jun had said the EXACT statement word for word about Jee...of course, jokingly like Jun does...and Erika REPEATED it from JUN!! Why wasn't THAT showN??? There have been MANY ugly comments and racist comments made by HG's that are NEVER shown to TV audience. Someone screwed Erika over with that one.