Archive through August 03, 2003
TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1:
Do people with tatoos have identity?:
Archive through August 03, 2003
Ocean_Islands | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 08:23 am     Do tattoo people have more identity, like Robert said? Are tattoos evil? Some of those tattoos are pretty skanky looking, that's for sure. |
Kennyb | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 08:26 am     I have 3 and like to think that I'm not EVIL...........maybe quazi evil. LOL |
Cinder | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 08:51 am     I was wondering if it wa Robert who said that. Interesting- he has the smallest tattoo and it is of his fraternity letters. |
Reader234 | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 08:56 am     OK, go figure, but both my mother-in-law (ultra conservative like I said, go figure, she rebelled really late in life roflol! Her father was extremely strict and she was an only child! When he passed she dyed her hair to get rid of grey and gasp got a tatoo - small mind you!!) and my father (and talk about strict conservative!! Definately voted for both Reagan and Bush!) HAVE TATTOOS!! And now that I'm a mom of 2 teenagers (and one more soon to be teenager!!) Its really silly to tell them what I think of tattoos WHEN BOTH GRANDMA AND GRANDPA have a tattoo!! ROFLOL!! Mind you at this point my boys dont like tattoos, but they do not judge those with tattoos!! I guess I would like to say it is how I raise them not to judge... lol, but of course it is a combination!! Ya just never know!! |
Smokeit | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 08:59 am     Well my tatoo is of a bumble bee. My friends call me suebee, and i love bee's. So I went to Canada and had a little to much to drink so I agreed to get the tatoo. Im not upset with myself and yes it is very small but it still identifys me. |
Ocean_Islands | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 08:59 am     It is Robert who said it because I just watched the show again. I don't have a tattoo. Don't I have an identity? |
Naja | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 09:09 am     I thought that was kinda funny when he said that. I guess I never looked at it as deeply as he did? I just thought people who had tattoos on their bodies were people who liked tattoos on their body, and people who didn't have tattoos on their body were just people who didn't want tattoos on their body..LOL silly me |
Cinder | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 09:11 am     Nope- i don't either. So Robert must ONLY have a SMALL identity of his fraternity and no other identity. (if you go by what Robert says) |
Spunky | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 09:17 am     I'm not too fond of those tatoos but I did like Lisa's tatoo, just in the right spot... eh,eh... but I hate those tatoos that cover the entire body.. or upper body... yuk! Someone said that tatoos reflect the person's identity and personality... it could also be that they want a tatoo to fight an inferiority complex.... okay, where's the psychologist? No tatoos on me... why would I need one, my identity and personality are already too strong for my own good... eh, eh...  |
What555456 | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 09:23 am     Tattoos are just a personal expression of the person at the time they get the tatoo. To me, they provide no more identity than what clothes one wears, jewelry one wears or how one does one's hair. They all express the person at the time they are chosen. The problem with tatoos, of course, is if they express an aapect of someone at, say, age 25 but at age 40 they no longer express who that person is, it costs a lot to get them removed. |
Joylaw20 | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 09:28 am     Usually a lurker so I'm not sure why I'm joining in on this one. I got a tattoo over 25 years ago (when it wasn't seen as a fashion statement). I have never, ever given thought to whether it shows an identity. It was just something I did when I was young. It's hard to remember why now. I am now glad that I opted for something cute! |
Spunky | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 09:29 am     That's right What.. If it's a fond memory it's okay, they can say "I've done this when I was 18" and the memory will bring some happy thoughts.. However, imagine being stuck with someone's name on their skin after their divorce... they'll remove it but some scars will remain to remind them of it... Angeline Jolie comes to mind... |
Lurknomore | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 09:32 am     I'm prefacing this by saying that I have friends with tatoo's and most are pretty strong minded thinkers and some are relatively normal lol. But regardless, how funny was it when Jack said "I usually arrest people with tatoo's." I'm sorry but man that was funny! |
Scorpiomoon | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 09:43 am     I have a tattoo (for 13yrs) and a nose ring (for 11yrs). At the time I got both, it seemed like I was making a statement about being different from other people--not being part of the status quo. But as one gets older, you come to realize who you are and what defines you is more of an internal thing rather being about what you choose to adorn your body with. And let's face it, tattoo and body piercing places are so mainstream you can find one between a bakery and a toy store these days. It takes a whole lot more than getting a tattoo to really stand out and have an "identity" anymore. |
Peachie | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 09:48 am     Didnt Dana say on the show that Erika,Ali,Nate and Jack dont have a tatoo and that is why they are so insecure? Hmmm I dont have one does that make me insecure? LOL My feelings on tatoos are just like they are on piercings and front gold teeth, to each his own, not for me but not against others doing it if that is what they like. |
Spunky | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 09:51 am     Scorpio.. right on... too many of them out there that now they're lost in the crowd... however, I still do a double take when I see a guy's arms and shoulders completely covered with them and I have to wince...  |
Bohawkins | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 09:53 am     In the Judaic bible there is an admonition against tattoos. Leviticus 19:28 says, "You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print or tattoo any marks upon you: I am the Lord." Evidently, tattoos (and shaving one's head, for which there were separate condemnations) had some connection with witchcraft. Of course, many people don't regard biblical teachings has having any validity at all, and especially those found in Leviticus, where there are some which are quite ludicrous by today's standards. Strangely, directors in movies use tattoos to show manifestation of evil. If a character is being depicted as evil the tattoo is often the convention used (many along with a shaved head). Click here to see a huge movie list of evil characters with tattoos and baldness |
Scorpiomoon | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 10:02 am     Spunky: re: people who go over the top with tattoos: I agree! Skin covered in tattoos looks so unsightly. I think a tattoo should be sybtle and symbolic. Getting covered with them just looks freaky and ugly. |
Seamonkey | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 10:02 am     Honestly, I think this whole scenario was engineered by the producers in the DR.. they noted that one team had tattoos and the other didn't and egged all of them on in the DR. I noticed the day they did it because the cameras were zooming in on the tattoos.. and those same shots appeared on the show. And I heard a couple of them saying that they were asked about their tattoos in the DR. Last night when Erika and Jack were talking about things said in the DR, and how bad some of them are.. Jack said that the DR people really try to push you into making a scandalous remark and said sometimes he bites and sometimes he ignores it. |
Earthmother | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 10:11 am     Didn't Dana say if you didn't have a tatoo you were insecure? Seems to me that both of these people have problems with their own identities. Doesn't having freedom of choice apply to body piercing and tatoos as well. I don't have tatoos and I'm quite secure in who I am, and my sister has 4 of them and she is secure as well..maybe we are dysfunctional??? |
Spunky | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 10:14 am     LOL, Earth!!!  |
Bohawkins | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 10:25 am     Seamonkey... that is a very good observation. These producers are movie/cinema school trained. This entire show is nothing more than a carefully contrived and staged production, which even includes magic trick devices to rig competitions the way the producers plan them. It falls right into line that these film school grads would follow movie tradition and use the tattoo convention to illustrate good versus evil. |
Seamonkey | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 10:31 am     Bo, yeah.. what I noticed is that the filming was done of the tattoos, then they talked briefly about being asked about the tats in the DR, but I haven't heard any actual "tattoo war" happening between the groups. So not a big deal. |
Jodes | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 10:55 am     Both my cats have tattoos which literally provide them with an identity, should either of them get lost. If Robert gets lost, should he be returned to his fraternity? What about Dana? From the looks of that green tattoo on her leg, I'm guessing that she should be returned to prison. |
Maris | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 10:59 am     I find it amusing that Erika is the one who raised the issue of tattoos and how the evil side of the house has tattoos. I am not sure what her point is. That they, marked up their bodies??? She has enough silicone in her to raise the Titanic/ I dont like Roberts Tattoo, I do like the tattoo on Danas back, Justins, I am not into those geographic tattoos and Juns is ok. |
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