Is Jack throwing Everything?
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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Is Jack throwing Everything?
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Lulu

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 11:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Jack is smart and observant when given plenty of time to think and act but he's not good under pressure or when quick actions or answers are called for. He falls apart and looks like a fumbling, bumbling idiot.

Bonzacat

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 11:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Along with what Seamonkey said, a few days ago I heard Jack tell Robert that earlier in the day he was talking to Erika about pets and couldn't remember his cat's name. Then said he felt like he'd been gassed, sort of in a mind-numbing BB house stupor. They agreed it's a lack of outside thought stimulation.

At any rate, just for a "gotcha" at the end, I would love to see Jack in the final two and admit to the DR that he'd thrown everything and all his stumbling was total strategy. I don't have a favorite to win at this point but do want to see some 'secret' alliances or strategies revealed to perk things up. I might be dreaming.....

Cndeariso

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 11:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
if Jack is a true indication of what we have in the FBI it must stand for Fanatic Bumbling Idiots.

Frodolives

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 11:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I've got it! Jack worked with the X-Files in the FBI and he was injected with alien DNA that makes him physically unable to win any competitions. By injecting all humans with this serum, they will easily be able to take over the earth. The FBI thwarted the attempt but was forced to retire Jack due to his ineptitude.

It's the only explanation!

Luckylucy

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 12:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think this HOH was not important enough for all players to get and have to reveal their hand to the remaining players. I think Jack, Erika, June and Ali all did what Ali said she would do..let the others get it and then see which side needs you for your vote, a smart move! I think it was important Jee or Robert get it, and I'm glad Jee did.

Fruitbat

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 12:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Seamonkey. That talk to Ericka sounds sincere. He may be experiencing some health difficulties. I do not think he threw that POV, I think he was sincerely confused. It looked as though he tried to cover his ineptitude when Julie asked him about it. He mentioned in the DR that he failed to get the directions straight. He may have been embarassed about that and did not want to dwell on it by repeating.

Spunky

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 12:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What's funny though that it wouldn't hurt him to tell us in the DR if he's truly throwing the competitions... I mean, Will kept telling us he was doing it on purpose... why can't Jack tell us, "Folks, relax... it's my strategy".
The hgs won't see the DR entries until after the game, so why couldn't he just say something about his bad performance in the competitions, he keeps saying he had no clue.. even in the DR.. I guess Jack didn't figure out yet that the hgs will not base their vote on that... unless, it's true, he's no good at anything.

Bonzacat

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 12:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Spunky, you're right about how Jack could be telling the DR his strategy now, if this was indeed a strategy and not an inability to win comps. If there is any "gotcha" and reason for him to decide to keep mum about it, he could always say his FBI training or experiences have kept him in a "trust no one" attitude.

But alas, it would be a fun reveal, I just don't think it's going to happen!

Philamom

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 12:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I heard Jack mention his memory problems, too. Apparently this started after he came into the house. He seemed a little concerned about it. I hope this isn't the start of something. Although 58 is kind of young to start suffering from memory problems, it's possible. I'd feel bad, after thinking he's bumbling, if it turned out to be a health issue.

Wink

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 01:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Why would he let out any of his strategy in the DR when it's obvious that the handlers or whoever questions them in there use things the HGs have said to get reactions from others.

I also think mentioning these "memory problems" is just a ploy to make him appear less threatening. He's had Erika's back to this point but they're into crunch time now and he needs to save himself.

I also think he may not have tried as hard on some of the earlier HOH competitions but not this one. He just choked.

Fruitbat

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 01:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
58 is not too young at all. The onset of Alzeimers can happen as early as 40. I am not saying this is the case here. Just stating some facts.

Cathie

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 02:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with Fruitbat--I've heard that too, but I don't remember where... :)

Katlady53

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 02:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, if Jack has the onset of Alzeimers, I guess it's time I was committed.

Cathie

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 02:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I haven't been into BB as much this year (pre-season choice on my part to not spend my whole summer glued to the TV/PC) so when I saw this thread title I thought Jack had flipped out and was throwing furniture around the house. Glad to hear it's another kind of throwing, lol.

Cathie

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 02:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think any of us here are trying to (or qualified to) put an Alzheimer's label on Jack, but there are many memory lapses that start hitting you as you reach your 40s and 50s--normal aging process...(God, I keep telling myself it's normal!!!)

Philamom

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 04:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wasn't trying to suggest Jack had Alzheimer's, just that he mentioned having some memory problems and he seemed concerned about it. LOL, and I understand the memory lapses when you get into your 40s and 50s, Cathie -- it's annoying as hell, but it is normal. I'm sure Jack has experienced that "normal" stuff, too. That's why I thought maybe it was something different than the normal stuff, because he seemed a little worried about it. But there's probably a hundred things -- both serious and not serious -- that can cause memory problems.

Ashtola

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 04:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Has anyone considered that Jack is throwing the comps on purpose but doing so better than Ali? Everyone is pretty much onto Ali. But no one seems to be sure about Jack. At first they thought FBI, so he must be throwing but after the last POV, maybe they are not so sure. Now they are thinking he is a weak old man and therefore no threat. But I don't think any of the HGs are really sure. They don't know what to think. Maybe the reason he hasn't admitted it in the DR is because he is not convinced that the jury won't see the DR sessions.