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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Who's going: Jack or David?: Archive: Archive through July 28, 2003

Maris

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He hasnt been told he is out yet. Dave thinks he still has a shot. I dont believe that they are going to tell anyone how they are voting.

Spunky

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I got it Maris, I revised the post before I read yours. These people are turning my brain into mush...:)

Kalekona

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
jun didn't tell Jee because it would have exosed her.
Nate and Ali DID come to Jee and lobby for Erika to be put up.
Erika isn't telling Robert she begged to have him on the block...there's truth and then there is game truth.

Spunky

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That poor bugger is paying for his ONE only "bright" move...:(

Maris

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Which poor one? There are so many of them.

FYI - the definition of bugger.:

Main Entry: 1bug·ger
Pronunciation: 'b&-g&r, 'bu-g&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English bougre heretic, from Middle French, from Medieval Latin Bulgarus, literally, Bulgarian; from the association of Bulgaria with the Bogomils, who were accused of sodomy
Date: 1555

Seanflynn2003

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Since Dave will not be on the jury, concerns about how he will react are irrelevant
For the rest of the evictions, they will need to be a bit more cautious
They won't of course (except for the halfway smart Jun)

Maris

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I only pointed about the above definition but for those of you who may have grown up in the British Isles they may remember that the term Bugger was commonly used as a slang description of a homosexual. This is something that is not commonly known.

Mlt

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I had a dream last night (I know. I'm pathetic, dreaming about Big Brother). Anyway, in my dream, in the event of a tie, the two contestants would have to compete to see which one will stay.

Just thought I'd share.

Maris

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
great twist Mlt. but I dont think we have a tie. Maybe the twist is because one week they dont have an eviction listed they might have just padded a week of no eviction so America can vote in a tie situation. Instead of eviction on the wednesday, the two nominees get another week to hear what America decides. It is totally out of the HGs control.

Spunky

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ah Maris, I'll get a lesson in English any day!
Thanks a lot.

Maris

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
lol, I bet you needed that. Not meant as a lesson just an anecdote prompted by a discussion in another on other thread. But dont want to go down that street. lol.

I remember once being in an office and using a word that I had no idea had a very filthy meaning. Two women looked at me and said do you know what you called that person. I had never heard the expression meant in the terms they told me. We all had a big laugh over it. Thank goodness I was among friends at the time.

Beruthiel

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lol, Maris! Buggery also used to be a crime, and may still be for all I know, over there, since I left a long time ago!
And, although the meaning is clear, the word is also now mainly used in almost a neutral sense, as in, "Stop playing silly buggers!"

Tishala

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
In fact, if it were intended in the pre-19th century sense, it woul dhave to be "silly buggerers," and who would ever say that? BesidesJonathan Edwards, that is.....

Costacat

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ziggy, which cat are you looking for? Costacat's in the house!! Meow!

Maris

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Spunky I am still waiting for the answer to my question though. Which one????

Kalekona

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have often heard the phrase "bugger off" and assumed it was a term used for f--k.

i know in Texas the car trunk is the "turtle"

Costacat

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, two other (slang) definitions are:

1. A contemptible or disreputable person.
2. A fellow; a chap: “He's a silly little bugger, then” (John le Carré).

Note that Maris's definition shows up as "vulgar slang" while the two above show up as "slang."

I also found an alternate definition: One who installs electronic bugs.

And, interestingly, this:
...Bulgarus, a Bulgarian, and also a heretic; because the inhabitants of Bulgaria were infected with heresy. Those guilty of the crime of buggery were called heretics, because in the eyes of their adversaries there was nothing more heinous than heresy, and it was therefore thought that the origin of such a vice could only be owing to heretics.

Delilah

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kalekona, bugger off basically means "F off" and I have to admit I use that a lot LOL. Just sounds better than "F off" and I only use it in jest! In England the car trunk is the boot, go figure, huh?

Delilah

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bugger basically means sodomy (am I allowed to say that?) but a silly wee bugger is a "nice" term used for a scamp or a rascal or a cheeky monkey. I use those phrases too, I admit!

Costacat

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Note: Bugger... not to be confused with booger.

(I'm sure you don't need a definition of the latter! <grin>)

Kalekona

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Delilah - nice to know i was right. Thanks. I know what ciggarett is called in England, maybe that's what the house guest really mena when they keep saying that word. lol

Seanflynn2003

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It is funny how in different contexts the same word can mean different things

I come from a German background; the term "schmuck" was used as an endearing way of saying "fool"

Then later when I used it around Jewish friends, they were stunned that I would use such a vulgar term

(It was not quite as severe though as when they saw me eat baloney on white bread with butter)

Secretsmile

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OK... I'm going to have to confess here. I have lived to this old age, and I honestly thought any and all terms about bugging, meant to pester. I remember being a kid and being told to bug off, and to stop bugging them, perhaps it's because I know I was pestering my elders at the time. LOL!

In my own defense, my family never spoke to us children using bad language, so I still think they meant it as a pest.

Spunky

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh Maris, which is the poor bugger in the house??
None other than David!!

P.S. Let's take the term as intended in the 21st century... and in this context, someone who hasn't got a chance to win anything (not even a stipend and someone to shag...).

I know there are several other meanings but let's leave it at that for now.

Bastable

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Does David show any awareness that he blew the game?