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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: OK, I'm tired of Jack.: Archive through August 22, 2003

Fruitbat

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 12:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The young women on this show are young, cute and can wear peanut butter well. It is all in fun.

Everyone on TV and on this board have behaved poorly at times in our lives. It is human nature. Jack said Dana had the sex appeal of a buzzards crotch.

I tend to root for who is playing the game in a way that appeals to me. Judging them is as distasteful as the behaviors I see posters complain about. Let them spin, I say, it is their life.

Fruitbat

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 12:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Seamonkey. Jack is as flawed as the rest of us and them. Why set him apart?

Cricket

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 12:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ditto what Meggie said!!

Saggkl

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 12:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with what Maris said. His remarks about Dana changed my view of him from then on. I thought it was gross and uncalled for.

Ladytex

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 12:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just because I don't support Jack, does not mean I like PB Bikinis or frat kids. Nor does it mean that I have something against older contestants. What it DOES mean is that I don't support Jack or how he is playing this game. Period. <sd>

Brenda1966

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 01:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with what Maris said.

I think since Jack is FBI we incorreclty assume he is bright and playing some strategy, but the evidence is mounting that he's inept at the challenges. Jack is no Mulder. Even the FBI employs clerks. JAck is just a country bumpkin to me, not that that's a bad thing, I just don't think he's a great player and it's looking like he may not be as loyal of a player as we thought. He's certainly no Will, not even a shadow of Will.

Spunky

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 01:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wonder if either Robert or Jee told Jack that Erika had made a deal with Robert last week which would see Robert outlasting Jack... and this is why Jack is making a deal with Jee...

I guess Erika betrayed Jack before Jack betrayed Erika... sooner or later it had to happen...

Avrey258

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 01:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So based on one remark by Jack in the diary room, he is as bad as the rest of them? You guys are tough.

Cricket

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 01:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Excellent post, Seamonkey. I think that is how many of us feel. We like Jack, but he is way too nice to the wrong people and if his plan to win is to now hook up with Jee and Robert, I'm going to root for the girls.

Kale, I think Jack's DR conversations have been some of the best moments of BB on TV. They made me laugh out loud.

Maris

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 01:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Avrey, I know many men who are just incapable of derogatory remarks like that about women. Jack has made other comments regarding some of the women in the game. I recall some comments he made about Juns aggressiveness when he was in the desert room one night. I cant remember what he said exactly but I remember thinking at the time that he doesnt have much respect for women. I would also point out the conversation with Nate and Robert early on about gays and why people are gay. I am just saying he isnt so much better than the rest of them.

That doesnt really have much to do with my opinion of him as a gameplayer. My opinion of him has been the same since the first diary room. I dont think he is the sharpest knife in the drawer. I clearly remember him going through the people in the house and analysing them. He was so way off base. When I heard him doing his Jee is my double agent, I said this guy doesnt have a clue. He said that the first week Jee was HOH. I have seen a lot of statements lately that he really knows these people and has them figured out. Well if he hasnt got people figured out by now he should just hit the panic button.

Lancecrossfire

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 02:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
When he fist analyzed them he was right on--not way off about them.

Maris

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 02:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
We differ on that view lance.

Spygirl

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 02:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm with Lance on that view - he was so right on with his assessment - and he made me laugh in the process. I loved it :)

Lancecrossfire

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 02:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Maris--it isn't the first time.:)

I wish I had that tape ot go back and look at it. Not so much for the right/wrong thing (although some)---more for how he came across at that point in the game when referring about other people.

At this stage of the game, he is for sure trying not to insult or piss anyone off.

Twiggyish

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 02:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hiya Lance and Spy! I'm agreeing with you both. =)

Avrey258

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 03:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Based on everything I have seen on the Lf's and the T.V. show there is no way Jack is even in the same sphere of meaness as Robert and any of the other guys there.

If calling Jun aggressive and Dana a buzzard's crotch is his worst then there is no comparison to the remarks made by the others. I would much rather be called a buzzard's crotch or aggressive than be called a wh@*e, b!tch and c*nt on a daily basis.

Meggieprice

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 03:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have loved Jack's insights and how on top of it he is in terms of strategy and reading the others. Some of my favorite convos have been his and Erika's because they are so right on about what is going on. I so wanted Jack to follow through in the other all important area- competitions- but he does not have it. I like Jack and think he has for the most part taken the high road.I wanted a Jack/Erika finale but it is not to be- the time has come to choose and I go with the three women- how I want Robert to see that! This has been a year for women haters in the house (note-I do not count Jack among them) and a female final three will be just desserts!

Lisad

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 03:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack/Erika were my fave. Gotta admit, Jack's irritating me now this week with his comments to Jee, etc.

If I hear him tell Jee "Good move!" or "You did the right thing" or "you're a great player - it's perfectly OK to be an a** to the other HGs".... I'm going to pull an Elvis and shoot the TV (don't have a gun though - will use sandal).

Beruthiel

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 04:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm really sorry to see Jack fall off his pedestal, but his actions since Jee won HOH haven't endeared him to me. I find it creepy to hear someone of his age and supposed character and intellect sucking up to Jee, whose two performances as HOH have exposed the worst in HIS character. We're seeing the flip side of the nice guys, and they aren't so nice, which is very disappointing, when they've both been given the benefit of the doubt for so long.
If the three women manage to foil Jee's plan and evict Jack instead of Erika I will be very pleased, and never thought I'd say that!
Go girls, go!

Scorpiomoon

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 05:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Lisad! :)

Gnarl24

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 05:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack needs to step up and paly the game, hes basically managed to get by each week, I hope his luck runs out, because Erika deserves to stay in the game over him!

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Slg21

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 06:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Maris!
I think it is hilarious that people think Jack doesn't respect women. He has three daughters and two granddaughters who are the center of his life. Also, he aggressively recruited female law graduates into the FBI for 30 years not to mention writing the article in the Atlantic monthly on his disagreement with the FBI for not hiring black females. I don't think he should be accused of "not respecting women" because of his comment about Dana and her sex appeal. That was said tongue in cheek and was meant to be funny, which it was IMO. Lay off.

Maris

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 06:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well Slg, I would merely reply that Robert adores his daughter too and his daughter is the center of his life. Recruiters follow the mandates they are given. I am curious, how many women did he recruit 30 years ago?

Slg21

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 06:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The point is, you used his comment about Dana to show he doesn't respect women when you are so far off base it is comical. Also, as far as recruiting, Jack brought more women law graduates and bilinguists into the FBI than any other recruiter in the nation.
He's practically a feminist. You just don't know him and your comment about his view toward women is untrue.

Crossfire

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 06:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Have to admit his credentials do look pretty impressive. There are much bigger fish to fry in the BB house.