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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: It's official, there is a new twist coming on 08/20: Archives: Archive through August 14, 2003

Kaili

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 09:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The thing is- the twists seem minor to us as viewers. In the house they are a bigger deal I'm sure. When the veto became golden all the time, we didn't think much of it. if you're in there playing the game, the golden veto means that if either of those two people get it, it will very likely be used.

The regular veto didn't matter much because chances were good that it wouldn't be used. The only time it would be beneficial to be used would have been if the replacement nominee would have to be from the HOH's alliance. The golden veto makes them have to work for it to at least prevent the nominees from getting it.

Demeter

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 10:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Crazydog, you are correct. No one came in and replaced Justin in BB2 and you are right about BB1.

Our "intruders" have consisted of

BB1: Will Mega for Eddie's massage, Cassandra coming back in for a short time (less than an hour?), Julie Chen during the finals.

BB2: Survivor Cast
BB3: Sheryl Crowe, and ex HG Amy

Bracken

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 10:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with you Kaili that these changes are big in the sense of how they effect the houseguests, I was just looking at it from a viewers standpoint. I guess I have a hard time empathizing with the HGs, lol.

The Golden Veto is a great part of the game and really does make it more intriguing and complex. I'm just hoping that next week's twist is something that turns the game on its ear, but am pessimistic.

Kaili

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 10:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, I'm pessimistic too! They would have to have a major twist for viewers to think it was cool though. Bringing Amy back in was a big one, I thought because it had a lot more potential to stir things up. The changes mean a lot more to them than they do to us though.

I like the veto, but I wouldn't mind seeing the veto holder pick the replacement if they use it. I know it's been said taht it takes too much power from the HOH- I don't care. I hated the HOH idea when they started it in BB2. I liked the old way better but we'll never see that again. It would make the veto holder a lot more powerful and would make people try a lot harder for it- it would make them a sort of secondary HOH without all the perks.

Crazydog

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 10:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I had always thought that the veto holder picking the replacement would be interesting, but I realize now that it's not fair to the HoH. In order for the HoH to keep the nominations intact, they (or someone from their alliance) essentially need to win two competitions.

I would be more in favor of the veto holder getting to add a third nominee.

Kaili

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 10:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sure, but why does it have to be fair? If it started out that way from the start of the existence of the BB Veto- it probably would be considered a risk and not an issue of fairness. Plus maybe it would take the HOH down a notch from thinking they are the masters of the house.

It would be kind of fair- everyone has a chance to win it.

Earthmother

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 10:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd like to see the sequestered HGs be involved in the voting of those who are put up. Don't think the 3 stooges, Jun or Ali will fare well...hehehehehhe!!!

Nmbeach

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 10:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It could be that the HOH doesn't have to sit out a week before they can compete again. I would like that one.

Spunky

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 10:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Nmbeach I said that above...we think alike..

Aria

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 11:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the new twist will likely be the closing of the desert room. It is about time to cramp up the living quarters for the remaining hamsters.

Tashakinz

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 11:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
lol - let the hamsters see but not hear a feed in the sequester house...they can speculate on what Dana, Nathan and (Justin/Robert) are finding to talk about...

Cliotheleo

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 11:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Aria, that sounds like the most likely thing so far.

I wonder if BB will decide to close the desert room earlier than scheduled to try and force Erika to sleep in the HOH so that more strategy talk can take place.

Daisy

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 11:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm not sure this is a new twist because it's
happened again and again. Guess BB doesn't care
if they lose viewers...but I live in the tri-state
area (N.Y, N.J. and Conn) and on Tuesday night's
show it came across the screen that Friday night's
show would not be seen and, said Julie Chen, it
would be shown on "Saturday night at 8:00 p.m."
Well, I've got news for you. I just checked the
schedule for Saturday night and there is a 3 hour
football game starting at...you guessed it, 8:00
p.m.

Spunky

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 12:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is this true??

London Papers reported this morning that Gos, an evictee from the UK Big Brother House, who has been touring American with winner Cameron will enter the United States Big Brother House on August 20th 2003 as part of the Live Show, One housemate will be evicted and after the interview with Julie, Gos will enter the house and direct the housemates in an extra extended Head Of Household using Brain and Brawn.

You'll be able to see Gos enter the house Wed. The 20th in the last 15 minutes of the show, which will showcase some bits of Head Of Household.

On Friday the 22nd, You can see more of the Big Brother eviction from the past week, The full endurance Head Of Household, Who won and Gos' arrival and reaction of the other housemates

-- Channel 4.

Demeter

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 12:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I would not view closing the Desert Room as a twist. They always close a room and I don't think it has ever been viewed as a twist. It is just like making the table smaller and taking away chairs.

They usually integrate the closing into some kind of activity though. Last year was the pie contest. The year before was the painting the walls...who drewOphelia? Bunky had the big neon letters right? Monica had the window with a border. Maybe the pig was Will's?

Ark

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 12:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know Spunky, I guess anyone from the outside would be a surprise to the HG but this guy seems pretty obscure. I found a post in "Outside The House" that Honeybeebaby made on June 26. Honeybeebaby posted this quote from Marcellas, made during a June 21 Jokers interview

'When he was asked "Is it true that BB3 HG's will be chilling with the BB4 HG's? Marcellas said "BB3 will be returning to the house to host challenges. Himself,Lisa,Jason,Roddy and Amy are the one's that have agreed to do this." '

Someone from BB3 seems more likely to me.

Jagger

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ark that could be the new twist, they start out next week with the guy from UK and than each week have a former hg run the HoH competition. That wouldn't be a very good twist, but a typical CBS twist.

Cropcircles

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 02:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It would be a good twist if- they are having a previous BB house guest host because HOH's can be won every week by the same person- no having to skip a week....?

Darkhorse19

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 02:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Two ideas. First, the HOH may be able to compete back to back.
My second idea is the platnum veto. This does not give the Veto holder power to nominate another person but it gives them the power to choose a person who will be 'immune' to the nomination.
Another idea for platnum veto... Instead of Veto holder or HOH to nominate the person what if the house would vote on who would be up on the chopping block like BB1?

Just some thoughts:)

R151996

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 03:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Spunky,

No one has ever provided a link to substantiate what "London Papers" reported the item involving Gos, and I have seen no supporting evidence of such a story on any reputable news or Big Brother-related website.

Grits

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 03:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just a note about what Dan said above; that Nate knew because he was wearing flipflops. At least one of the HGs changed shoes on the way out to the HOH comp. So apparantly they were told about proper footware at some point.

Penpoint

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 03:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think there will be any visitor from the UK BB because--from my understanding--Arnie and Allison are independent from any other country's BB producers. The other countries still have ties to the producers of the original US BB.

Ark

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 06:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah Grits, I saw Jun putting her tenners on before going outside.

Katana

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 06:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Figures the twist would be when I won't be watching. Nascar will be in town (the only thing that ever happens in my small town)so I'll be at the racetrack all week. I could have my mom tape it but it would do no good since I have no VCR to watch it on. LOL I hope you guys can get some could pics. I'll definatly(sp?)be playing catch up on Sunday

Texasdeb

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 07:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think: because they haven't turned Nate's picture to bl/wh, maybe he's coming back?????? One can hope - right.