Archive through August 20, 2003
TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1:
Jack is going to sacrifice himself for Erika.....:
Archive through August 20, 2003
Jpgramma | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:26 pm     Oh pooh Wendo. I was so excited when I read that. There hadn't been any updates here for about a half an hour and it was during that time (9:58 BBTime) that a jokers livefeed posters posted: "The Two Stooges are talking Erika and Allison for noms." "The Two Stooges were talking before Ali came out, they want Erika out this week, the easyest way they see is to put up Ali, Jun's ally so that way she votes Ericka out, with Ratburt, causing Erika's departure. " "They then lie about it to Ali's face" are you really, really sure he's wrong?? (I so want to believe it) |
Wendo | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:29 pm     I'm just going to ditto C1mag. Again, it's exactly how I feel. Also, each one of them has to be thinking, now, who they can beat and not beat in the finals. Jun, I think, knows she can't beat one of the Jee2 or Jack (Jee2 because they'll control the vote with Dana. Jack because he's so well liked.) But, she could beat Ali or Erika. Jun's not dumb either. She's thinking about all these scenarios. |
Donut | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:30 pm     i thought that erika made a deal with jee in the cage, that if she saved him this week, he would have to save her next week.. did i hallucinate this? cuz if that was the case, then ali would be his most likely choice i would think... also, i missed something else crucial tonite.. when erika talked to robert on the show... did she make a plan for them to get rid of jee and jack?? i mustve misheard that too... cuz it wasnt what she told Julie..and it seems to not make sense... btw, sorry for the stupid questions... hubby and i always end up talking about the show while its on and miss stuff! |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:30 pm     But the twist. The twist has something to do with how the game proceeds. They are telling them BEFORE nominations. All of our speculation could be out the window in 10 hours. |
Wendo | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:31 pm     Well, Jpgramma, I'm not going to say he's DEFINITELY wrong. Only that I never heard that scenario and my feed followed Rob and Jee outside. Saw Jee light his smoke and they started talking. They specifically said Erika and Jack up. But, that they wanted to TALK to Ali and ensure she votes their way. Perhaps that's what the poster misheard. |
Jigglywigglyjun | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:31 pm     BTW didn't Rob just lie to Jee when he told him that Justin said to vote Erika out first? I have not in the last two days heard Justin say this at all... I know Justin was telling them to go after Ali Aand Jun... Am I wrong here guys? |
C1mag | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:32 pm     I also want to add that my personal oppinion is that Jee is getting sick of Rob riding coattails and doing nothing to advance this so called dream team. Jee is probably thinking, "Again with the Erika thing. When is this guy gonna give it a rest?" But I think Jee will put her up to please him but he will know she isn't going and that most likely Rob is toast the following week. I don't rule Erika going completely but Rob is forgetting something so important. 2 women will decide who goes if the noms stay the same and it won't be Robs call. NEVER EVER EVER tell Ali how to play the game. Just tell that too Nate. She's gonna keep the person that she can use to her benefit and that isn't jack it's Erika and Jun will do the same. they've all been talking about all 3 girls sticking together. This week is gonna be fun no matter how it turns out. |
Wendo | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:33 pm     Donut, the deal in the cage was not for Erika to be safe this week. The deal entailed him letting her win HOH and his promise he wouldn't win/use veto on her nominations. No promise of no nomination the next week. |
Jpgramma | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:34 pm     oh well Wendo. It was a nice dream while it lasted. lol |
Wendo | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:34 pm     Jiggly, yes, you're wrong. Justin said to take either Jack or Erika out. Then have whoever stays join them to get rid of Jun and Ali. C1mag, I agree, I think this week is going to be quite fun. |
Jigglywigglyjun | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:34 pm     Jee just told Jack " after nominations let's Rob , You and I talk "... Hmmmmmmm an alliance of three again????????? |
C1mag | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:35 pm     Jig you're not wrong and Jee knows this. Don't forget that Jee looked right at Justin and said, although he loved Rob that Rob has been useless in their little team. Jee knows what Rob really wants. Jee also has to realize that come next wed he won't be trying for hoh and that will factor into things as well. He doesn't think Rob could keep his back so Jee will take a deal to protect himself. The girls will come in and tell him he is not the next target and Erika is staying. |
Jigglywigglyjun | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:35 pm     Jee just told Jack " after nominations let's Rob You and I talk "... Hmmmmmmm an alliance of three again????????? |
Jmm | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:35 pm     Donut, Don't know if you were hallucinating or not on the first part, but Erika talking to Robert was that "if she and Jack were put up she wanted Robert to make sure Jack was gone instead of her and if Robert and Jee were put up she'd help get rid of Jee". Anyway that's what I got out of it. |
Jigglywigglyjun | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:36 pm     Rob keeps telling Jee " im so happy for you, your so strong Jee"... Is this guy far enough up his ass or what...LOL |
C1mag | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:36 pm     Wen Justin told Jee more than once to target Ali and Jun next. He said to align with Jack and Erika because you could trust everything they say. He also said they would be easier to peck off at final four. |
Cameltoes | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:37 pm     I agree with you C1. I had to laugh at Ali's promise to vote Erika out. We know what her promises mean. Yesterday Rob told her Jack, Jun then Erika was the pecking order and when he mistakenly said Erika first (freudian slip?), she balked and said she wouldn't have been down with that. It will all come down to what Jun and Ali decide. Ali's paranoia is in high gear right now. We'll see how much a Jee/Jack alliance scares her. |
R151996 | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:38 pm     IMO Erika would have 3 votes locked up in a Jun-Erika final--Jack, Justin, Nathan--with Robert and Ali also probable. Jun would likely get only Dana for sure and maybe also Jee. Justin's strategy is not suited for the game at this point because players have to look at the endgame, not who they believe is playing the "right" way. Jee should discard Justin's strategy because it limits the possibility of either Jee or Robert from reaching the end. |
Jigglywigglyjun | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:39 pm     OMG did Ali just tell Erika the plan? I heard ali just tell her but Dont worry, im gonna get the veto... ROFLMAO |
Wendo | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:39 pm     C1mag, I have to beg to differ. Justin clearly said, break up Jack and Erika first, then, whoever remains, have them join to get rid of Ali and Jun. Just heard Jee say to Jack that they should talk after nominations (with Rob.) My guess, they're going to propse to Jack joining their team. However, I will agree, C1mag, that Jee may be getting peeved with Rob making certain decisions though he's not HOH. But, since Justin is now no longer in the game, Jee HAS to go with Robert right now. I do like the scenario of Jee striking a deal with the women. (And here I'm thinking...a Jun/Ali final two could really happen! LOL!) |
C1mag | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:40 pm     Rob is being very foolish in this early celebration of supposed control over Jee. Theres a whole week to go and things will happen and this veto could blow this whole thing out and if that doesn't happen 2 women will decide who goes not Robert. Then there is still this coming twist that obviously has something to do with nominations. This is good though because Robs attitude will make him THE target to go next week. |
Wendo | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:42 pm     C1mag, when I last heard Justin talking to Rob and Jee about who to take out, I heard Justin say, go for Jack and Erika first. Then, have whoever stays join you because they're trustworthy, and use them to get out Ali and Jun. Perhaps they talked more, but that was the last game talk I heard from them. |
Cameltoes | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:44 pm     That's what I heard too Wendo. Split up Jack and Erika first and then work with whichever one remains as they would be more trustworthy than Alison. |
Jigglywigglyjun | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:45 pm     I was just reading the Jokers Updates and it says there that Rob and Jee just agreed to put up Ali and erika, not Jack and Erika? Did any of you hear this? Sorry I was too busy munching on my celery stick, and didnt hear them... |
C1mag | Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:45 pm     Hmm.. Wen I heard it very differently when it was just Justin and Jee. Maybe you caught something later on. They could have flip flopped but it is interesting that Jee was headed towards putting Ali up as THE target but after Rob chewed his ear off he went back to the easy Erika and Jack nomination. That suggested to me that Jee had taken to heart what Justin said about nailing Ali first. Either way I am really looking forward to this week. It's got a lot of potential for some real game playing and backstabbing. The great thing is that I can smell a Rob boot coming the following week. I see my target for eviction insight and his name is Rob. I will sit back for one week patiently and then lets POUNCE on the nose picker! |
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