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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: It's official, there is a new twist coming on 08/20: Archives: Archive through August 18, 2003

Lakegal

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 09:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Do we know if they are voting live again this week? If so why not let Dana and Nathan each have a vote too. That would mix up any plans the HGs had decided on who was going out next. They could not control who the people in the sequestered house were planning to vote out. It would be a twist that would shock the HG.

Probably won't happen but it would be interesting.

Surreal_Badger

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 09:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with several of the posts above that the "twist" will involve the sequestered houseguests. This will, after all, probably seem more of a surprise to those in the viewing audience who aren't participating in online convos like this one (who don't know diddly about the sequester house and are expecting a beach vacation a la last year).

It would be very interesting to see the evicted houseguests have a say in who's out the door next. This would certainly jeopardize Justin's position this week. Dana would vote to have him back by her side -- and I can't imagine either Dana or Nate would want to have Robert move in with them!!

Philamom

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 09:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lake, it would be interesting, but probably not real exciting, considering the 2 HGs that are in the sequester house. Nate and Dana would probably just cancel out each other's votes ... Nate would probably vote to evict Justin and Dana would probably vote to evict Robert.

Bmh

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 09:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have a feeling the twist wont have anything to do with new people joining the current household or the jury having some kind of power...I was thinking the new twist had to do with how voting or nominations took place.

Spunky

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 09:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think it's fair to the remaining houseguests who have valiantly fought to remain in the game to lose their place in the house to an evicted hg by making them swap places. That must be the most cruel twist ever.
Ali would have a fit if they'll make her compete with Dana to swap places...

Momiee43

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 10:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I was just thinking and wouldn't it be something if the evicted HGs also vote in the evictions, so not only do you have to worry about the votes in the house but those of the evicted as well. Wonder whish way Dana and Nate would go. LOL I just saw thats what peeps are posting, I guess it's true great minds think a like.

Momiee43

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 10:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Philamom you might be suprised by Nate I mean didn't Justin say in his good bye message he liked the deal but the others wouldn't go for it? Nate could go either way.

Ophiliasgrandma

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 10:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe each of them will be given one of those electronic babys to tend to. They can be more work than the real thing.

Wanderer

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 10:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wouldn't it be nice if there would be no more noms and each week they would vote (indivitualy) in the DR for who they want out. Rule would be that they could not talk to anyone about who they vote out. Person with most votes leaves. They could then have competitions to see who gets to sleep in the old HOH room. Maybe that wouldn't work as everyone would be too nice to each other. Shades of Leave it to Beaver

Pamy

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 11:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If the twist involves the veto, I would like it to be that the veto holder must USE the veto.

Dutchlizzy

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 07:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I really really like the idea of the sequestered house guests voting. Since CBS has already billed them as the "jury", let them start their jury duty now! Since there are 7 people in the house, and 4 voting, HOH has tie-breaking status. With 2 jury members also voting, HOH still has the tie-breaker, avoiding usurping HOH power this week. Instead of 4 votes, requiring 3 for eviction, there would be 6 votes, requiring 4 for eviction. This week, the houseguests still have voting power over the jury, but each week this ratio will change, causing HG to rethink strategies and allowing alliances to survive eviction! Alliances with jury members would be difficult to maintain, as there is no post-eviction communication. For example, if Justin is evicted this week, the J3 survives, but with 2 on the inside and 1 on the outside. They still have a solid voting block, but Justin would have to figure out how Jee and Robert would want him to vote next week. It would certainly shake things up but without being unfair to HOH or HG, since at least this week they still have voting power over the jury.

Stingerman

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 08:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here is my twist it's called the "ULTIMATE VETO"

The person that wins the veto this week will also win a brand new car say the new Ford Mustang. BUT !!!! only if they win and "USE" the veto will the car be awarded.

Oh and if that isn't enough then the person that wins the "ULTIMATE VETO" also wins HOH for the following week as well.

Now tell me all these peckerwoods aren't going to try for and use this one.

Ryanc829

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 10:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have always hated the idea of forcing the HGs to use the veto. Why bother having the HoH nominate 2 to begin with if you're gonna do that? Have the main HoH competition. Have HoH nominate 1 person, then have another competition and have whoever wins nominate the other.

I hate that idea too but if you're gonna force veto use...

Bb234finalist

Monday, August 18, 2003 - 12:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Telling Nate he wanted him to stay was a nice strategic move...since he knows the others can't see his Diary rooms, and won't...This way IF it came to a vote between him and Robert or Jee, he'd be the one wanting to save him and Robert and Jee weren't....I'd say Nate gives Justin his vote.

Bigsister

Monday, August 18, 2003 - 06:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I would not want to have the person with POV be forced to use it. I think POV has been an important, if subtle, factor, even when it is not used. When the HOH is contemplating his/her strategy, he/she must deal with the POTENTIAL of the POV. Not knowing whether it will be used or not adds a touch of uncertainty and makes the HOH's decisions more difficult.

At some point, there will be a twist involving the evicted houseguests and their new digs. That is the only possible explanation for the fact that Arnie & Co. have been so secretive about where they are and what they are doing. Remember last year during BB3, early in the season when the first four houseguests were evicted? There was nobody there to greet them, nothing said about where they would be going, etc. We all just assumed they went home. We learned later they had been held incognito to be used for a new twist. The evictees leaving now are handled in exactly the same way except that they are being held and will be brought back for the jury. We are told nothing about where they are going. That's because we are going to learn about them via a big surprise. In fact, I wonder if the other house on the lot really even exists.

Dan

Monday, August 18, 2003 - 07:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think the new twist will have anything to do with the evicted HG. They were told by July that we would see them at the last show for the final vote. I think this means we won't see them until then.

Arnie said there would be no RETURNING of evicted guests this season. This doesn't mean no STRANGER guests won't come in.

I think that, starting next Wednesday, we will see a new guest coming into the house each week. That mystery guest will be in charge of "hosting" some of the competitions. These competitions will be longuer that the usal boring quiz competion we had in the past but the new guest will have had the time to prepare them with the producers.

I believe these guests will be ex BB1-2-3 HG, like Marcellas, Danielle, Will, etc. and possibly at least one (probably this week) ex BBUK HG.

I don't think these mistery guests will be allowed to vote but they will stay in the house for one week (only) and will probably be under certain limitations regarding what they can talk about. They should however be allowed to talk strategy with the HG and might serve as testing ground for our own HG theory.

Cliotheleo

Monday, August 18, 2003 - 08:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
<<<In fact, I wonder if the other house on the lot really even exists.>>>

So where do you think they're all staying? Do you think there's NO sequestration house or that it's just on the lot? Interesting.

Jolly_Penguin

Monday, August 18, 2003 - 08:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dan, that idea has been batted around for a while now. I read on this board that Marcellas actually eluded to this on last season's show. I also read that a UK news service claimed the Ex-BBUK person would be appearing to host challenges.

If this is the twist, it won't be a suprise.
Actually, it won't be a twist to the actual game at all. It'll just be window dressing.

Dan

Monday, August 18, 2003 - 08:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I believe the ousted HG are sequestered in the same sequestration house but with handlers. They are probably allowed contact with the outside world but under close supervision. They are possibly allowed to go outside (restaurants, cinema, bars, etc.) but with handlers. They are allowed to talk to other ousted HG but not about the game and allways in company of handlers. They are allowed to look at TV, CBS only :-), except for BB shows. They are provided edited version of the BB show (no dairy convo, etc.). They don't have access to computer and the internet. Too bad because it would have been great to see them participate in our discussions. Maybee we can contact Amanda, Michelle and David though.

Cliotheleo

Monday, August 18, 2003 - 08:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, you know how we often complain that the show has gotten too far away from the original idea in a lot of aspects? HGs have it too easy, no viewer influence etc. Well to have someone new come into the house on such a grand scale would do that for me. Separation from the outside world is a biggie for me as far as the game goes. I realize this new person can't tell them too much, but if it's anything like when the Survivor folks came on, well, that would be TOO much contact with the outside world.

......... as much as I would like to see some of those folks again.

Joni

Monday, August 18, 2003 - 09:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I would love to see marcellus come back in the house for a little bit, even if it was just to give Erica some fashion talk telling her that the pink boots just arent good.

Catfat

Monday, August 18, 2003 - 11:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
On the other hand, maybe Marcellus would like the pink boots so much he would trade something in his own wardrobe for them. hahaha

Mpls

Monday, August 18, 2003 - 11:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Be it a returning houseguest or a previous season houseguest, to me, it adds nothing to the boring institution which is BB. I'm sorry, it seems on previous seasons at least there seemed to be something everyday to read about on the boards.

This version is dead, dead, dead......

Philamom

Monday, August 18, 2003 - 11:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I want a real twist ... something earth-shattering that grabs me by the seat of my pants and shakes me til I'm begging for mercy. Since that's not going to happen, I'll settle for something that makes me say "oh."

Demeter

Monday, August 18, 2003 - 11:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't see someone coming in to run a HOH contest a twist, that is just an event. Like the past survivors coming in.

A twist for me would be something that specifically impacts houseguests strategy for staying in the house.