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Myjohnhenry

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 02:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with you SanFran...we have heard other things that would lead us to believe that alliances were made and discussions held those first few days...such as Jee and Jun, and Ali mentioned in one of her diary rooms that she and Justin had made an "alliance" the second day. Maybe Robert and Erika do have a secret alliance of sorts made in those first non seen days. :)

I think most of the pics were taken off of Josh's site before the game began, just not the references to a girlfriend named Erika (which isn't necessarily the most common spelling of the name either)

I still believe that Erika stated that she told a producer that she wanted to apply to BB after she didn't make it on TAR after making it to the semi's twice, but I know others have mentioned her saying something about her agent. I also believe that it is pretty obvious that she and Josh know each other personally and professionally...whichever came first doesn't really matter.

I don't think CBS or AS and AG made any major effort to keep it secret...more like Erika and Josh choose to keep it secret. And while it is interesting info I don't think it is a factor in the game...other than providing fodder for the masses OR if it is part of the game in some way shape or form like some would like to believe.

Xarph

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 03:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Does anyone have any further information about Erika's gig on Elimidate? The HGs keep referring to the 20Gs she won on that show.

Ladybug007

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 03:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Alright...my take...

First of all ...ya'll make threads about every little snip possible...remember the good old Conspiracy thread from the past...

Anyhoo....

1. Robert would NOT be NOT NOT NOT ...in this house had it not been for Erikas obvious connection to Josh.

2. We ALL know (as much as you may love the guy)that Josh is not the sharpest nail in the shed..that said, taking the picture off his site and stuff like that and thinking that this "topic" would never be discussed is moronic. But we ALL know that when it comes to Reality TV..theres always 1 or more than one idiot in the spectrum.

3. you can not say names and talk about certain things..or what happens FOTH...of course, Josh prob didnt sign didnt sign a waiver. Erika and Robert are going to discuss the topic because it will jeopradize both of their chances....and like i said b4...Robert wouldnt be there had it not been for Erika.

4. The FINALISTS are narrowed down before chosen. Therefore, they did not all know that theyt would be part of the show...HENCE JUN AND JEE REPLACEMENT peeps....for the guyy that was pulled right b4 show start.

5. CONSPIRACY..like I said at the beginning...BIG BROTHER = CONSPIRACY....every year we have something. This is obviously the BB03 spy thread.


Later...

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Ladybug007

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 03:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is being on Elimidate a pre-requsite to getting on BB??

LOL!!!

Justshirley

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 03:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I still want to know why BB is not allowing Robert to talk about this, if indeed BB is behind Robert's silence (which is the only explanation that makes sense to me -- I have a difficult time imagining Robert keeping this quiet for this long merely because Erika asked him to, whether she's responsible for him being on the show or not).

How often did Justin talk about Ali's new boyfriend, or Jun give her opinion of Carmen? All without FOTH. All without reprimand from BB. But Robert is not allowed to discuss his ex's new man.

People bring up the possibility that Josh didn't sign a release. Well, reading the LF updates of Jun's description of her dream last night that she was going to have sex with Will from BB2 made me think about just how often these HGs have talked about HGs from previous seasons. I would be willing to bet that none of them signed releases.

But discussion of Josh is off limits? At least off limits as it applies to his relationship with Erika. And the only one so restricted is Robert.

I must reiterate, I have never been a fan of Robert. I am, however, a fan of fair play. And the more I think about this "hold" that BB has over Robert, the more it just seems wrong.

Sanfranjoshfan

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 03:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Justshirley - You're right....the fact that Robert has kept silent is the key. It's logical that Erika and Josh might want to keep it silent for whatever personal reasons. The fact Robert hasn't said anything is the most suspicious part of this whole story. (for me, anyhow)

Robert keeping this secret does not benefit him in any way that I can see, which is why I think he has been silenced by BB, and not simply as a favor to Erika.

Also, the fact that Josh had those pix posted in the recent past suggests that the decision to make their relationship a sudden "secret" was not made very long ago.

Earthmother

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 04:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Was Josh last year on Elimidate or Blind Date? Maybe this is the real Josh in Erika's life and Josh from BB1 is covering her pink polka dot ass so Mawisssss doesn't find out....

Xarph

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 04:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Josh was on Blind date. The Internet Archive has Josh's web page about this adventure. You can see it here

Chy

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 04:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Remember how Robert promised to tell other Erika stories when they get to the Juries' house? That was in the first few weeks.

Maybe Robert mentioned Erika's relationships with Josh as soon as he was appraoched to some assistant to assistant producers. A low level decision could have been made right there and then. They could've warned all invovled to keep it a secret if any would like the chance of $500,000.00.

Later on, could be Rob's move(he wanted out when he was first on the block, and when Erika won the HOH), or it could be BBDR's probing that the cat got out of the beg. And at this time, since they are already way into the game, perhaps the real PTB(AG or AS?)made the decision once again to not to talk about it for the duration.

In the begining, Erika might have taken some sort of a short cut and did not want it to be seen even worse in the HGs' eyes. By now, they were probably both told that, since they each have a wonderful chance of getting to the F2, why rock the baot?

I don't think it matters if Erika is Josh's special friend. I don't think it needed to be a secret. But this is show biz, who knows how their brains are wired?

I do not feel bad for Robert either. The possibility of being in the F2 is benefit enough for him. How do we know he didn't already try to blow this apart once? He may have done all kinds of rant & rave in DR and was shut down.

Let's hope we will eventually find out all, well, most of the truth.

BTW, has any on-line news/scoops picked this up yet? Hope TVCH-BBFC gets the credit it deserves!

Seamonkey

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 05:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee was a replacement. Jun was going to be on the show from the beginning, as a single, non-ex.. like Dana, Nathan and Jack.

Jee was the replacement, that was determined by the timing of his silhouette appearing on the site..

Seamonkey

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 05:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
TVCH did get credit for digging this out, on Realiiity.com .. LOL, Chrispco even apologized for loss of bandwidth here, fully expecting that people would be hot to follow the link over here..

Reader234

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 05:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As always, luv your analysis Sanfran!! (and I was kinda poking fun when I typed 'alleged' - I do like to have fun!! trouble w/ this medium you cant hear me!!! lol)

Anyway, my point (never well stated!) was that I'm not sure this group of kids/houseguests have enough...hmmm shall I say "life experiences" to add this dimension we are discussing!! I'm thinking along the lines of a post way long ago reminding me that this group of hg, live life with different view points, and sometimes someone has to smack them over the head before they "get" it... However, upon further reflection (ok, reading...) it very well could give them a "reason" not to vote for Erika, or even someone could get a bee under her bonnet, and threaten 'colusion'??? I'm just trying to think along the lines of the majority of the hg, "who cares who's sleeping with who" type of attitude many of these hg seem to portray...

and I would love another twist!! I keep trying to figure out what are the chances the girls will keep this "alliance" since BB is now promoting it, it seems reasonable to me, that they have DR knowledge we wont have, and that the discussion of the three days in house prior to LF, may suggest quite a bit... I'm sure AS would love to pull a twist on us "internet nerds"

Crossfire

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 06:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, it's a good thing they apologized.

What they are apologizing for, is not sending people over here, but for direct linking an image on the TVCH server into the post over there. It is considered bad netiquette to do that.

Cinder

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 06:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
http://www.flash.net/~factoids/bb.htm

Check out this website. It is a summary of TVCH, Jokers, Etc live feeds. It has the same picture- but did not credit who posted it. I know it was once public domain.

Gina8642

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 07:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wouldn't Josh arguably be a 'public figure', therefor there wouldn't need to be a release signed by him? The HGs should be able to talk about him just like any other public person who appeared on a TV show. In other words - He was cast on a national televised TV show - doesn't that make him public?

I say CBS made a conscience decision to keep this quiet - I'd like to know why. For what purpose?

It's always the cover-up that is worse than the truth. Big deal - Josh and Erika have a relationship - keep it quiet and the conspriracy theories abound. Stupid move on CBS's part.

Azriel

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 10:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cinder, that's really crappy. They steal our updates, but I notice there is no link to TVCH in their BB4 links section.

Neil, you ought to send them a note and complain.

Kaili

Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 06:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You know, I honestly don't get the problem. I get the problem in terms of the lack of energy they put into casting and the fact that they seem to blow off most applications... but I don't get the big deal at the same time. We've long known that this is how Big Brother is casted- look at all the Bellys connections! Why was that just an annoying thing? Why none of the outrage about it giving someone an advantage? Knowing someone from BB2 would indeed be a huge advantage to knowing someone from BB1...and neither would be a huge benefit if only because the people...the dynamics...each year are different. Keep in mind- the HGs with Bellys connections didn't sit and talk on and on about those connections, and if they did have a connection- that doesn't mean everyone knows.

I guess I'm just looking at this as our glance behind the scenes into the making of BB. The TV watchers don't know all this. i'd rather have Erika dating Josh than find out she got on the show because of hooking up with AS himself or something!

As for Josh and his column- it's always been opinionated. So what if he doesn't want to make a huge public issue out of dating her? He likes Erika- whether he was dating her or not he would probably like her and be writing the same positive things.

Anyway, just my opinion on alll this :) I've been waiting eagerly to get the chance to write one all weekend.

Ladytex

Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 07:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Great post, Kaili. You said what I wanted to say, only you said it better than I could have.

Boberg

Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 07:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cinder thanks for the link! I don't know if there are others like me..but I learned from going over there that many of our LFposts here are put into that websites updates/feed postings...kinda flattering to find my posts there also..thought others might not know this also...lots of Seamonkey and Watcher and Bbluver over there also.
P.S. So I will be on subject,,I have no problem with Erika dating Josh from BB1, no advantage I can see since the game was so different then but I love that our detectives here got the scoop..Thanks for the interesting tidbit.

Chy

Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 10:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL!

I followed the link, found these words as sub-title(is that what it's called)

"Semi-verified info stolen from Big Brother 4 message boards/update sites"

Not fair it doesn't offer a link to this baord though.

Bbspyqueen

Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 11:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Erika shouldn't have been allowed to go on BB4 of she dates Josh from BB1. If BB didn't know, she should be forced to leave. And now hearing specs that she was dating a BB crew member?? THAT is so wrong!

Bbspyqueen

Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 11:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
So, if Erika is really dating Josh Souza, is this just another EX FACTOR twist in BB4??

Kellirippa

Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 01:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that the BB production team does not want any mention of BB1 in any form. It was a different show, by a different team. I think they just want to be disassociated from it.

Sanfranjoshfan

Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 01:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bpspyqueen - I don't think that Josh is Erika's "ex"....it appears that Josh is Erika's *current* boyfriend.

Landi

Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 01:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
bbspyqueen - josh's contract with big brother productions is long over. when arnold shapiro took over production, lots of things about the game have changed. the game played in bb1 is much different than the game being played in bb4.

what advantage does erika have to win? NONE she has to play this game like any other person. noone but her housemates decide who wins and who doesn't. all that existed for erika was a chance to play the game. we all here at tvch have learned that the game is "cast". but since we haven't had any say in the game since bb1, we can only speculate on how she got to the attention of the "casting director".

erika is a very private person about a lot of her life. that she chooses not to divulge information was her perogative. robert being an ex-boyfriend from a long time ago, (and not too quick on the uptake) may not know josh's entire life history either. it was up to her to "tell" her other houseguests her life history.

Landi

Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 01:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i just wanted to add a postscript to my last message. i will soon be applying for a job at belly's and wonder if i can get recommendation letters from my tvch compatriots.... hehehehehehe

Ladybug007

Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 05:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Its so funny that Erika with the Dana wig on makes her look just like she did on Joshies back in Hawaii!! Anyone else catch that?

Starr

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 01:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
BUMP

Seamonkey

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 02:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, well.. on the live feeds right now, yet another "connection"..

Suvivor Jerri worked with both Robert and Erika..

Both say she had an

Average body, Lisa says square..

Both say b!tchy, that in life she was like on Survivor..

Erika says Jerri's Playboy spread wasn't great.

Robert said Jerri's body was not slammin;