Lurknomore | Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 09:18 am     Oh yeah (I'm too lazy to go in and edit lol). I think the producers would LOVE a Jun/Jee finale as it would hype their X factor, and they could make a big deal how first they worked together even though they are X's and now they must compete against each other...can't you just hear the announcers voice?! lol I can. I think it would be close, but unless Jun ticks off too many people this week in how she pulls this off, then I think she would ultimately win. Especially when she reminds the jury of the selfish choices Jee made when HoH, and how she always cooked and tried to be as much of a team player as possible (excuse me must find official BB barf bag I keep around here for times like this lolol). |
Meggieprice | Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 09:24 am     Jun has said she will nominate Jee when Ali uses to veto (or Robert, depending on which has not been nominated yet) and she knows Ali and Erika will vote him out. |
Wanderer | Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 09:26 am     Possibaly could also be an Erika, Robert and CBS could brag about Erika making up with Robert and how he was an alcoholic and her forgiveness. What a soap opera |
Surreal_Badger | Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 09:28 am     jun does seem in a pretty precarious situation after wednesday, methinks. she is pretty certain to be nominated next week, regardless of who wins HOH. (robert would DEFINITELY nom her. erika quite likely. and even her "alliance" with ali is questionable) perhaps the only safe bet for jun would be jee winning HOH?!? just a thought |
Seamonkey | Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 09:32 am     Ali WILL use the veto.. if she leaves herself on the block, it would be way to tempting for Erika and Jee or Robert to take her out.. or if there was a tie, and there would at least be a tie, Robert and Jee don't want to ever vote against a DT member.. then Jun might just put Ali out. Ali is just not going to take that chance and this way she also gets to make a dramatic speech and mention Marcellas too.. she loves it. Jun is in jeopardy next week but she really cannot change that, unless BB suddenly says she can compete for HOH. |
Lurknomore | Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 09:44 am     Oh I KNOW Ali will use the Veto...BUT I still think Jun is looking for a way to get Erika not Jee out. My only problem is a scenario she can do this without alienating both Erika and Ali and losing their votes at the end. She may have to settle for getting Robert out this week, but if I were her I'd make sure they get into some fight or I'd start having private conversations about how she WANTS Jee out but feels she would be betraying her promise to his dying father etc etc. Now that I think about it that might be the best role she could play. And if I were her I'd wait till the last minute so no one can talk her out of it. She could cry to the girls (and Jun sure can turn on the waterworks when she wants to) that she really wants Jee gone BUT given her promise she just is all torn up and can't do it...she wishes they could take him out etc etc. Ok...I figured out a plan that could work. Let's see if she takes it or not  |
Meggieprice | Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 09:47 am     I do not hink Jun wants to be up against Jee in the final 2. Her best bet is Ali or Robert. She will let the other ladies do her dirty work this week while she can blame them- and then she will work to get rid of Erika next week, unless she sniffs the Robert/Ali deal in the air. |
Tresbien | Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 09:52 am     I think the women will stick together to be the final three. If one of the guys made it to the final two, they'd have the votes of the other two alliance members and Dana, too, for certain. With only one more vote needed to win the game, it's a chance none of the women can afford to take. I don't think Jun's promise to Jee's dad or his puppydog eyes will sway her. |
Meggieprice | Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 09:53 am     Tresbien- Jun and Ali apparently told each other they want to get rid of Erika after Jee. This happened last night. |
Tresbien | Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 10:00 am     Oh, thanks for the update, Meggie. I've got a cold and turned in early. Hmmm...this puts a different spin on things. Did they explain why they want her out? She would get votes from Jack and Nathan at the end but would anyone else on the jury vote for her? |
Seamonkey | Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 10:06 am     Erika told Jack awhile back that between Jun and Ali.. well the first time she said she was leaning toward voting for Jun. Then a week later said she thought she'd probably vote for the one who got her out, that person being a worthy opponent. Yesterday, she told Ali that if F2 was Jun and Ali, she would vote for Ali.. probably not the smoothest move, IMO, on Erika's part. I heard Jun/Ali talk and indicate that they would get Erika out next week, but Ali said Erika may be thinking the same thing (keep Robert next week). Ali asked Jun to find out some info about Robert's brother (smart move; Erika would know this but Jun and Ali don't) |
Kellirippa | Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 10:09 am     Next week only one person does the voting? |
Cangaroo | Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 10:13 am     I'm lmao. Robert the despicable is going to win 2nd because everyone has FINALLY figured out if they drag his a$$ along with them they would more than likely win because he would lose in the jury vote. I don't wanna see that happen, but if they want a not so sure slam dunk that is what they will do (the other HGs not being slam dunks at all). |
Kmjm | Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 10:15 am     Did Jun actually promise Ali that she would vote out Erika after Jee? If she didn't, then she may be stringing Ali along. |
Kellirippa | Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 10:15 am     I can't see Robert losing in a jury vote, I think Ali is most likely to lose in F2. |
Vealprince | Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 10:16 am     Personally, I think that if Erika wins this game its not anything like 'another Lisa situation'. Erika was singled out the first night and has worked to stay in the house, regroup, and turn things back into her favor TWICE. She isn't my favorite person (nobody is in BB!) but she won't be a winner by accident like Lisa was. She's playing a good game and I'm enjoying how much that is frustrating Robert. |
Meggieprice | Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 10:54 am     Tres- they figured out they can probably beat Robert in F2- plus I can't help but think they know he is so bad at competitions he is less likely to win final HOH. In any case Erika has to win HOH to be safe, that is now clear. Sea- I too thought at the time Erika was wrong to tell Ali she would vote for her in F2- all the more reason to put her on the jury. She would be better off staying vague about those things... Off to a wedding- hope everything doesn't go upside down and backwords while I am gone! You never know with this bunch... |
Kmjm | Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 10:55 am     Bumping this up to see if anyone has an answer to my question. Those of you who heard the conversation- did Jun actually promise Ali that she would vote out Erika? |
Jpgramma | Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 11:12 am     Well, they're up and from what June said in Seamonkey's 10:28 post, June is wondering if they'll have noms early with veto later today. That answers the question about whether or not the noms were held during last nights long FOTH that returned to the HGs being in bed already. |
Jpgramma | Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 11:15 am     and from the latest LFP, noms will be in one hour. Odd wording from BB.. referring to them as the eviction notices. ??? anyway, we should know for sure in one hour. editing to add that the notices part of BB's announcement may have just been a typo. Joker's has the same report, but has BB calling them 'eviction nominations'. |
Lurknomore | Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 11:30 am     yeah but we KNOW who will be nominated LOL..what we need to know is who the POV replacement will be (and WHEN that will be). |
Dan | Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 11:51 am     What IS the latest we know about nominations? When was it that Jun talked about it and what did she said? |
Gvandeli | Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 12:11 pm     Jun is delusional if she thinks she can beat Robert in the final 2...Ali can't beat anybody in the F2, so that's not surprising she's willing to go along with that. They are stupid if they kick Erika out in favor of Robert...and that would make me ill, too. |
Seanflynn2003 | Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 12:22 pm     I am baffled by flat out statements that Robert is so strong in the finals. It is not delusional to say that Jun can beat Robert. I don't know how the vote would go; there are so many permutations as to what still could happen. The only person among the potential jurors who have any ties to Robert beyond the show is Erika; if she is on the jury, her vote could go either way. Jack would likely vote for Jun. Allison would likely vote for Jun unless she feels betrayed down the line. Dana my guess is marginably more likely for Jun. That's 3 of seven right there as real possibilities, and I do not rule out any of the remaining 4 voting for her, including Jee. Justin is not a life-long friend. Nathan has no close ties to him. Erika would remain to be seen. Except for Allison being 2nd to anyone except for possibly Robert, none of us can say how the vote will go. Jun needs to be consistent in her game to win, and I think she has her eyes on the $500,000, not the $50,000. To screw Erika at this point would cost her big time with the jury. |
R151996 | Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 12:23 pm     Ali desperately wants to win HOH and by agreement with Erika and Jun would nominate Robert and Erika. Jun would then be forced to evict Erika--not Ali--for Robert to make the F3. That could secure votes from Erika, Jack, Nathan, and possibly even Justin for Ali in an Ali-Jun final. There is too much game left to say Ali can't beat Jun or Robert in the finals. |