OK, I'm tired of Jack.
TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1:
OK, I'm tired of Jack.
Maris | Friday, August 22, 2003 - 06:51 pm     It is my opinion and based on the comments he has made. As far as laying off, this is a message board where one is permitted to write their views of houseguests actions and gameplay. I have broken no board rules and I am entitled to post my opinion that Jack is inept and needs to go. |
Philamom | Friday, August 22, 2003 - 06:56 pm     Maris, Jack wasn't a recruiter 30 years ago. From what I've read, he only did recruiting the last few years of his service with the FBI. |
Slg21 | Friday, August 22, 2003 - 06:57 pm     No one ever said you can't post your opinion. Just once again, what you have said about Jack is not true. You just made a very strong statement about Jack and his personal character which is so off the mark. I have the right to defend him just as you have the right to attack him. I just wanted the truth out there so other readers will know. Calm down. |
Spunky | Friday, August 22, 2003 - 06:59 pm     For somebody who so wanted to get rid of the stooges he sure looks weird to align with them. Well, let him think he stays, then his shock will surely make him shake this time, he won't be able to get up from the orange couch... Just hope Ali and Jun keep showing they're evicting Erika... if they screw up, they're toast. |
Bearware | Friday, August 22, 2003 - 07:02 pm     I'm not sure where I read this, so you'll have to take my word for it, but I remember reading an article about Jack and his recruitment efforts for a black female into the FBI and the FBI wasn't buying, it certainly wasn't Jack's call on who they accept. I do NOT believe he is any sort of chauvanist. I do appreciate his humor, and it's possible others don't see it AS humor - which is just a shame, cause he's hilarious! I'm not sure he's playing the best game, but I'll miss him if he goes. |
Slg21 | Friday, August 22, 2003 - 07:02 pm     I know, Spunky. That will be the interesting part...to see if Jun/Ali can pull it off. They're just such big mouths! |
Slg21 | Friday, August 22, 2003 - 07:04 pm     Thank you, Bearware! |
Philamom | Friday, August 22, 2003 - 07:07 pm     LOL, Spunky, Jack may not be the best BB player, but he's a realist. He's even said it in the diary room -- that you can never be 100% certain what's going to happen in this game. If he gets evicted Wednesday, he won't be shocked and shaking. Even though he seems to bumble under the pressure of competitions, I haven't seen him lose his cool yet, and I don't think he will if he's evicted. |
Alegria | Friday, August 22, 2003 - 07:35 pm     Jack has been a great addition to the house. His comments are interesting and perceptive and he keeps a very cool head. There is a depth of experience and maturity in his demeanor but he also has a very dry humor that I find very appealing. When the game is over Jack is the person everyone will still want to know. If he leaves next Wednesday, it will be with dignity. I look forward to an interesting conversation with Julie. |
Slg21 | Friday, August 22, 2003 - 07:47 pm     Well said, Alegria! I am in total agreement! |
Cricket | Friday, August 22, 2003 - 08:15 pm     I look forward to his DR comments this week. Oooh la la, they should be something. |
Beruthiel | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 07:45 am     I take back what I said earlier in this thread - if Jack approached Jee to veto Erika and then nominate Ali, as has been reported, then he hasn't abandoned his integrity, and I'm darn pleased to know it. The fact that it might actually hurt Erika's latest strategy wasn't his fault since he didn't know. I'm inclined to think he's just been doing what everyone else is doing, letting 'the boy's' hear what they want to hear, and maybe learn something useful. Even if he's 'playing' the boys for himself, it is nearing the end game and everyone has to start playing for themselves once the numbers are reduced, so go for it, Jack. |
Stro27 | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 07:54 am     If Erika would just let Jack in on the secret girls alliance, he probably would be a lot more successful in convincing Jee to veto Erika and put up Ali. Erika has a chance to save them both this week with this information, but it looks likes she's ready to sell out Jack. |
Beruthiel | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 08:13 am     Well, Jack made a deal with Jee for himself before he tried to persuade Jee to veto Erika, and Erika heard about it and was very upset, and, she doesn't even know Jack talked to Jee about the veto, because Ali didn't tell her, so they're both in the dark, and Jack has hung with the boys since Jee won HOH, so what else can Erika do at this point? As far as she knew, Jack was the one staying, he told her so, so what else can they do but work for themselves, now? Jack knows that he wasn't the target, so it's easy for him. We always have the same discussion about selling out partners, each season, but as I said in another thread, there is no 'winning team' category, there's only the 'single winner' option, so, at some point in the game, every team has to break up. They both did well, helping each other up to now, being real partners, but one of them is definitely going, their team has been broken, the game has changed and so new strategies are required for the new situation. I'd always hoped for a Jack/Erika final, but it isn't going to happen, and Jack hasn't won one competition, while Erika has, and saved them both for a week, while breaking up the three stooges, so I feel she deserves to stay more than Jack does, much as I like him. That's my logic, but of course you might see it quite differently, and that's okay! |
Puttergirl | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 03:01 pm     JACK?:
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Philamom | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 03:36 pm     Beruthiel, I'm still looking for where Jack made a deal with Jee. I've been reading about this supposed Jack-and-Jee deal, and I assumed it was true. But I personally haven't heard it on the live feeds, and I just went looking through the live feed posts. I can't find anything. In fact, I see what suggests that there is no deal -- I read where Jee said yesterday (privately, to Robert) that if Jack wins HOH next week, then Robert and himself (Jee) would probably go up. The only thing I see is ALISON saying that Jack made a deal with Jee ... and I don't believe one word that girl says. And Jee's words contradict Ali's claim that Jack and Jee have a deal. But maybe I've missed something. Has any one actually heard a deal between the two? Like -- Jack, if you stay, you won't nominate us, or something like that? |
R151996 | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 04:02 pm     Jack proposed the deal last night for Jee to use the veto to take off one of the nominees--not sure but I think Erika--and replace her with Ali so Ali would be evicted. Jee and Robert have privately talked and rejected Jack's deal outright. They also told Ali of the offer last night (saying it was from Jack AND Erika) and also told her it was being rejected. Thursday night Ali heard Jee explaining his plan to dump Ali ASAP and that guided Ali into the loose--appears to be very loose at the moment--alliance between Ali, Jun, and Erika. |
Demsome | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 04:10 pm     So very disapointed with Jack. I thought in the beginning he was just hiding all his talents and brains. That he was throwing all the comps and toward the end blow everyones minds by winning them all. But sadly no... Last week was the one to start blowing our minds with and he BLEW it. He apparently really is as inept as he appears. I am soooo let down. He loses all the comps food,HOH, all of them. What a bumbler.I guess when he kept falling down in those earlier comps.he really was clumsy. And I thought it was all a act. |
Vealprince | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 09:20 am     I agree Demsome. What a letdown! In fact, I can't think of one instance where he has successfully directed an element of this game. Other than his discussions with Erika, is there one instance where he has influenced anyone or their strategy? People just seem to humor him. I don't know why anyone is afraid of him getting into the finals. He may be likable, etc. but jurys tend to appreciate someone who has 'played a good game' and I just don't see a jury voting for someone who is just such an accident in this game and whose only strategy is to be up for nomination with someone who is more wanted out of the house at all times. |
Charjo | Monday, August 25, 2003 - 04:29 pm     This week all Jack needed to do was plant a seed in Jee's mind to get him to put up Ali. Anything, but hinting at a racial slur by Ali against Jun would have done it. Might not get him to the finals, but would have bought one more week. Ali has to be the easiest person of all to target. |
Gina8642 | Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 10:52 am     Jack - whose Jack? The last couple of days has been like he isn't there. Without the Jack/Eirka marathon strategy talks, this guy is nearly invisable. |
Sherri | Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 01:50 pm     For someone who is invisible and who so many say is boring and irritating, ad nauseum, he sure has alot of people talking |
Katlady53 | Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 01:52 pm     I love Jack, and I wish he'd make some kinda move. |
Crazydog | Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 02:00 pm     I agree Demsome and Vealprince. What a disappointment. I thought it was all an act as well, and apparently it is not. So incompetent. Nice guy, but he is horrible at competitions. |
Csnog | Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 02:05 pm     I'm beginning to think that Jack has some memory loss. A Doc. should check him out when he gets home. |
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