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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Who's Going???!!! Jack or Nate?: Archive through August 12, 2003

Wendo

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 03:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'll tell you this too. If Nate does stay and Jack goes, seeing Erika win HOH would be very interesting, and fun to watch. Hahahaha.

C1mag

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 03:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So true Wendo cause who would she target? She's gotta figure the following week she's toast. I still can't picture Nate playing for these guys all the way to the end. I guess you gotta sign a deal with the devil - so to speak- if you are Nate and you need to stay in the game but if he really has no structured plan after this stay of execution then once again he will prove unworthy to play my game called BB.

C1mag

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 03:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And remember... This is pretty much what Will did in BB2. All of a sudden when he realized he couldn't control the game by calling the shots he started playing along with Hardy and Nicole. It seemed to work for him so lets see if Nate can see an open door eventually.

Scandalousplaya

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 03:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Robert really hates women! My goodness and to think he has a daughter. For him to say that Dani or Lisa should have never been the last two...he really needs to get over himself. <Mod hd>
One thing for sure, I do agree with you C1 they really think they can beat Erika in an endurance challenge. Women do have a higher tollerance for pain (ie the boat competition with Jason, Lisa and Dani). If you recall Jason was the first one out.

I do like it when a nominated hg tries to stay in the game. I do give major kudos to Nate for at least trying. It's funny how hgs think that it's wrong to campaign. Everyone should try to win and stay in the game...should never just quit. It's $500,000 on the line.

I wanted Jack to win it all, but I must admit this show will get pretty interesting if Nate stays. This is getting good!

C1mag

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 03:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Worst case scenario is that Nate once again thinks he can play this game with Ali later on. I swear I think he is thinking that and on a side note Erika unfortunately thinks that her only way in the game is through Jack. I don't even think that she is thinking about the game right now. I think she just wants her "buddy" to stay so she would vote out Jesus Christ right now if he were up against Jack at this point.

Denecee

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 03:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think if Jun & Alison were smart they would vote out Nate and do an alliance with Jack/Ericka which would then be 4 strong against the jee3 but noooooo...they have to be up the guys behinds.

C1mag

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 03:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Do you realize that the choice to keep Nate all hinges on BB? They know now that if they do throw and endurance challenge for hoh that Nate will stay. Can you believe that? BB actually gets to pick who is evicted. It's all up to them. The guys said... if it's an endurance challenge he stays. Anyone noticing that Erika is getting nervous? I will say this much... If Jack wants to stay then get your azz in there buddy and stop babbling to Erika. I predict Jun is gonna really try hard to get Nate gone by tomorrow and she will find a weakness somewhere in the guys plans to keep Nate over Jack. She just needs a couple of bags of chips, some cookies, and a couple of wine coolers and she'll come up with something.

Wendo

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 03:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree C1mag, I don't see Nate playing for the Jee3 boys to the end either. I think Nate's made a deal with the devil for one week. After that week, he'll feel free and clear. (Basically, the deal for the week Justin can't get HOH.) I Nate's smart, if he stays he shouldn't go for HOH if Erika is still alive. (She'll likely put up the Jee3 boys.)

As far as Nate playing with Ali as an alliance. I don't think so. He'll play with her to use her; which is what he should've done from the beginning.

I do agree about Erika, that she thinks she needs Jack to play this game. She doesn't. She's acting a lot like Nate did the week Ali was on the block. She's worried about losing her buddy is it.

Wendo

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 03:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag, Jack said a bit ago that he wasn't going to go in and talk to all the Jee3 boys, he didn't want to "muddle things". (Another shining moment of Jack's game playing skills.) He only wants to talk to, maybe, Jee.

Did you see Jun under the covers in her bedroom? LOL! She's thinking what to do, that's for sure.

Jigglywigglyjun

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 03:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If it was up to Robert there would be no women in the house whatsoever.. he said last night all the girls should be out by now , that they didn't deserve to be in the house.. Hey maybe HE is the one that is gay, not Nat!

C1mag

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 03:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Juns key is gonna be Ali. Make Ali paranoid that Nate will go after her. If that doesn't work then keep pounding and Jee and Jee will keep going back to the guys throwing doubt. However, it appears as if our local woman hater is dead set on getting the women out and Jun can do all the stirring she wants but Rob is through with her and Jee is gonna have to stay solid with the guys. Nate has no idea that Robs hatred for women has given him a second chance. This works good for Nate in the future. Rob for some reason trusts men so keep that in your back pocket and every once in a while throw it out to Rob how evil they all are.

C1mag

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 03:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo we've seen her ( jun ) end up controling the outcome of a vote before so lets see just how much power she truly has left. I say give her some chips. It's sorta like giving popeye his spinach. LOL

Wendo

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 03:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that's what Jun's going to focus on too, keeping Ali paranoid. The problem with that, though, is the Jee3 boys KNOW Jun's doing that. It's only making Jun look worse in their eyes. (And, both Justin and Robert have told Ali, she's safe, don't believe anything you hear.)

Yep, Robert's hatred for women has certainly affected this years game. You should have heard him yesterday. He didn't think any of the women still in the house (Erika, Jun, Ali) deserved to be there. Nor did he think Dani and Lisa deserved to be the final two last year. The man is pathological in his hatred for women.

C1mag

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 03:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jig my brother is gay and when I was talking to him about BB I mentioned that theory about Rob not liking women and does it mean he's gay. My brother said.. "Nah, Rob aint gay. He's too homely( and I'm cleaning that up) to be gay" ROFLMAO!

Wendo

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 03:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL C1mag. I don't think Jun has as much power as she thought she had. Even Jee is having "issues" with her.

But yeah, it will be interesting to see her machinations over the next 24 hours. She's going to be playing pretty hard.

Just chip!? LOL! Give Jun any food and she'll be off and going.

C1mag

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 03:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
DAMN! He didn't think Dani should have been in the finals? MY DANI? Oh man, she would have had him for breakfast last year. The man wouldn't have had a chance to put his finger to his nose and she would have had him packed and waiting at the front door.

Did ya just hear? Ali and Nate talking about picking those guys off one by one together. See, he is doing it again. Thinks he's gonna be able to play the game with Ali. OH PLEASE! She will NEVER be the one to put up Justin.

Gina8642

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 03:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun knows she's in doo doo. Jee just told Robert that he (Jee) had to tell them (Justing and Robert) something Jun said. To me, that means Jee is ready to sell the Jun/Jee alliance down the river in favor of the 4 guys. It'll be interesting to see if Jun can pull this one out.

Again - I'm not interested in seeing this turn into a misogynist fest. Do you suppose if the DR would say anything? Even if framed in terms of a question? Like - do you feel anyone in the house is .....(some polite term for misogynistic)?

Wendo

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 03:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Now see Jee. Robert's women hatred is rubbing off a little.

C1mag

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 03:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well Wen all the hatred works to Nates benefit to stay and you and I both noted that Jacks sitting back over analyzing and counting votes was not gonna do him one bit of good. He can talk to Erika all he wants and that won't keep him in the game. I'd be curious to know when Rob got off the Jun train. Is the DR dabbling in this eviction a little? I mean it's odd how this has turned out and on top of everything this weeks voting was postponed until tomorrow. Us die hards know that the D.R. can be VERY subliminal when they need to be. Just plant a seed with the right person and see what happens. We all know Robs weakness and thats his "no trust" rule with women and this seems to be the real reason why Nate may stay.

Nexell2

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 03:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This thread makes fasinating reading. Although I have to agree with Robert on only one thing. I did not think Dani or Lisa should have won either. I could not stand either one of them but it had nothing to do with their being women. I was rooting for Amy. I will just keep reading your keen observations and enjoy it as I haven't a clue at this point. I just don't want Justin to win because he is so sure he will. Thanks guys.

Jpgramma

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 03:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If this happens, and Jack goes, the only thing that will keep me watching is if Erika wins the HOH.

Then I hope she's smart enough to let the others all come to her wheeling, dealing and sweating their whatevers off..

hope she lets em all talk, squirm, talk, lie and grovel, all the while knowimg what she's going to do... put up Justin and Robert. With one of them gone, there really WILL be a whole new game.


if Jack goes and Erika doesn't get HOH, I'll at least get the rest of my summer back, because I refuse to watch the ugly predictability of what will be left.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 03:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag, what does your brother think about NATE?

I thought it was very telling this morning when Jun asked if he fell asleep right after sex and he hesitated and said "I don't KNOW" that he never thought about it.. does that sound like someone who has an actual sex life? Don't most of us know if we

fall asleep
get the munchies
feel the need to chatter
smoke
shower
etc..

and he clearly was taken aback by the topic. I think women scare him and that's why he's spreading this "girls breaking up DUDES" doodoo.
I think Nate is staying

I cannot BELIEVE that Erika believes that they have Ali's vote and that she, Ali and Jun will save Jack. Can't she see how Ali has been trying to keep Nate in the house? and how thrilled she is after talking to Jee3?

Rob_Robe

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 03:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i thought this "game" was not rigged, but i see it is ... if jack leaves... it will only confirm my impressions... BB4 should not be called a "Game"

Seamonkey

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 03:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The only saving grace will be if Jun or Erika get HOH and if it is Jun that she totally turns on Justin and his minions.

Starr

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 03:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nate has been saying all week that the DR kept telling him not to count himself out yet that anything could happen... I think AS doesnt want Nate to leave an therefore lending a helping hand in keeping him...Remember Nate also said more than a few times he was kicked off the show before it started an they let him back on...as bad as I hate to see it happen I think Jack is gonna leave this week.. :(