Do You Really Care Who Goes This Week -- Or Even Who Wins?
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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Do You Really Care Who Goes This Week -- Or Even Who Wins?
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Lancecrossfire

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 10:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Good point Bo--it is KIND OF LIKE wrestling. Notice the producers coach all the HGs. Not just some of them. In wrestling, the winner is declared, then the wrestlers go out and put on a show that leads to outcome already set up.

In this, the results are not known, but the show put on is somewhat limited by the constraints of the producers.

People made the same comments about Survivor--how it has to be set up for one group to win one week, and another the next week so it wouldn't be lop sided--yet we had waht is now known as Pagonging, and we had Colby win every reward and immunity challenge once it was individual. And the challenges were of physical, mental, and combination of both.

In BB, notice that last year we had the same group win a number of times.

Heck, I don't think the producers this year could get the same or different groups to win twice in a row--the groups keep changing! The only group to keep together is J3, and they didn't start out together.

As far as caring--if people didn't care, they wouldn't have such strong feelings about things. They would just walk away and not care. So as long as someone is here posting, to some degree they care.

Maris

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 10:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lance, I care to post but I do not care which HG wins the HOH as long as it is an interesting week. I also do not have strong feelings about any HG, some I like better than others but doesnt make a difference to me which HG actually wins it as long as they fought a good fight. I dont want another "lisa"

Lancecrossfire

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 11:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, it sounds like what you care about is for them to fight a good fight--which is what good competition is all about.

I'm thinking if they all walked to a different corner in the house and fell asleep for the rest of the show, you and the rest of us wold all go over to the other areas of the board and stay for the duration--lol.

Since it's off topic from this thread, I'll post in a different one about the issues of "boring" and "them not knowing anything" and all of that being the worst of all BBs. Seems that people forget too easily--all of the stuff last year from the HGs that we all went crazy about. But that will be for another post in another thread.

I'd say based on the intensity of a lot of posts, there are HG's many want to cheer, and many want to cheer against. That's what makes it enjoyable.:)

Lurknomore

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 11:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lance...I agree with most of your post except for the ending. Who do most of us want to cheer? (Once Dave is :( gone tomorrow).

We have ample options to choose to cheer against, but I've spent 2 BB seasons now desperate for someone to cheer FOR. That's my biggest problem. What good are all these villians if there are no good guys to root for and passionately want to win.

If Jack showed some personality he might have a shot at moving into the slot so far Dave has only held. But truthfully, as hard as I've tried, I haven't been able to find anyone to root for (beyond Dave, based mostly on his having both a personality and a sense of humor), and the same seems to hold true for many others here.

And to me the vast majority of intensity in the posts have come from only 2 groups...one being the largest. Folks just disgusted with this years cast and therefore in total agreement (hence the amount of complaining on the boards). And lately a small but vocal group complaining about the complaining on the boards LOL. But I haven't seen much Rah Rah, boy I love, etc for anyone.

Laisey

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 11:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
After lengthy debate and contemplation my cats and I have decided we want Dana to come in 4th. She would not have a chance to compete for the final 2 and will be oh so (guess the word) that she had to stay in the BB house while everyone else was at the 6-bedroom house on a beach in Alcapulco with maid service (that was Robert's idea).

Goddessatlaw

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, I can say I didn't root for anyone last year until Lisa voted against Eric coming back into the house. I had just as much fun rooting against people in the house and bantering with the posters who liked them. I see this year going largely the same direction, although a little less flamboyently. I can pretty much guess at this point I'll be rooting against the potty-mouth twins, Dana and Jun, but hoping they get into some serious scuffles with each other before they lose the hard way. I may care more about who loses than about who wins, which is fine with me, too.

Meemo

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Right about now I could really use an Expect the Unexpected. I loved when they brought back Amy last year which "pi$$ed off" ••••••••, that made for good tv. I just don't want the Jee3 or •••••••• to win. Another think that bothered me about this year is how everyone is so out there with who they are aligned with. There are no secret alliances. No one in that house knows how to keep their mouth shut for more than an second.

sigh--but I'll keep watching ;)

Lancecrossfire

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 01:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lurk, I had planned on dealing with your question about having someone to root for--and will still do so in another thread. I will say here in thsi thread that I think the key to having someone to root for, in terms of everyone having someone they can root for, is diversity.

The casting over the past couple BB's (not just this one--everyone needs to use good memory skills to go back to the others) is that almost every HG is pretty much the same.

About the same age, about the same approach to life, about the same self-centered beliefs, about the same level of maturity, about the same life experiences, and about the same leverl of what they can cover in a conversation. Remember last year??? Except for Roddy and Gerry, they only new current pop culture and fashion.

So, if you aren't that, the producers have given us little to relate to, in terms of what a Hg is all about as a human being.

Floridagirl1010

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 02:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
In response to the original question:
Jack and Erika are my only favorites - I can't stand Jee, Jun, Dana or Robert - David is fun to watch but he's gone now - the only thing that would be worth watching would be to see Ali put Jun and Dana up for eviction or to see a good catfight with Ali and Dana:) I'm evil I know!

Maryk

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 02:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
With Dave going this week :(, it's more of hoping/cheering that people I don't want to see win don't make it to the end.
I agree I want to see more fights at this point

Cinder

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 02:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
MaryK- that is how I usually have to watch all reality shows (with the exception of Survivor Australia) My favorites always go- but it is still fun to watch.

Bbfanatic

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 02:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i want dave out. i want anyone but jun, nate, dana, justin, or alison to win.

Maris

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 02:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it is time for Erika to go. I dont know if I can watch her bawling for another two months. She is the only thing that is making me look decent in the CBS fantasy game. She has been crying for hours now. I feel like screaming, get over it. Its a game.

Nexell2

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 02:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Last year was hard for me because of the contempt I had for Lisa and Roddy and Dani and Jason(for being such a goat boy to Dani). I ended up happy that Dani did not win 1st place as I found her to be cruel and unusual but not real happy about Lisa's win either as I felt she slept through half the game. Roddy was horrible and Jason made me sick.

Tabbyking

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 02:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i could care less as i don't feel anything for any of the houseguests. they haven't grown on me, even with the weeks passing... they are pretty much interchangeable! so i'm off to camp without having to worry about missing my show. last year, i kept calling a friend in texas for her to play my games and update me. this year, i am going to relax!

Charjo

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 02:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think it is getting better, just bitter-er. I'm watching Wed nights only and checking here once a day. There are better reality shows on now plus baseball is more interesting than seeing these medioa wannabes beat each other up while sunning in Sou Cal. Ugh...

Floridagirl1010

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 07:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
How do you think they could have made the show better? It's just getting predictable...5 against 5 blah blah blah...they need to mix this up a bit...anyone agree? If someone does come back into the house then they will be voted back out just like last year...who cares? I'm definitely not as excited about this years show as I was last years show...I loved Amy and Marcellas...they were fun to watch:)

Bbfanatic

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 09:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
2 days later and i still want dave to go.

Spunky

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 10:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
No, I really don't care who wins, but I do care who leaves...
okay, it has to be David, not my choice, but I'll keep looking forward to the next eviction, whoever that it...

Guinevere

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 10:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The upside of not really loving anyone of the HGs is that I'm detached enough to be pretty "eh" about Dave going. I would have much preferred Alison to go, but what are you going to do? The fact is, there are things I like about Dave, but there are things I dislike as well (his 10-year-old needing a Ritalin fix impression gets tiring, and I don't even have to live with him). That's true of most of the HGs. Some I really dislike (Robert, Nate, Alison), but they pretty much all annoy me. The only one I'm rooting for is Jun; if she goes I will be disappointed, but not as sad as I was to see Amy evicted, last year. Because I think she's funny, and playing a good game, but she's not the sort of person I can build a lot of empathy for, as I did for Amy.

Jagger

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 10:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I care to the point that I don't want to see Dave leave. I really don't care who wins this year, none of them have impressed me in the least so far.