Archive through August 08, 2003
TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1:
Fixed Game?:
Archive through August 08, 2003
Catkey94 | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 02:53 pm     A lot of us think that the competitions have been rigged to favor certain contestants and now even the HG are saying the same thing. Last night Nate and Jack complained about the HOH contest being slanted toward Justin winning, and I just read ont th LFP that Jee is saying that the food competeion was rigged so that they could win the Subway food and BB could do the endorsement. I don't have a problem with them manipulating competitions as long as they don't try to say that this is a game show. If they are going to manipulate the outcome so that certain people win certain things, then they need to stop calling BB a game and just call it a reality show. They should pay everyone on the show a fair wage for their time. I think that CBS is setting themselves up for some lawsuits after this because they are being too obvious with their manipulation of the game. |
Jadar | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 03:24 pm     I guess CBS doesn't care as long as they get ratings and endorsements. |
Bastable | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 03:30 pm     I am surprised to realize that I myself don't care as long as I'm entertained. |
Crossfire | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 03:32 pm     I'm with Bastable. |
Lurknomore | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 03:33 pm     I would care less if I WAS entertained |
Gina8642 | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 03:37 pm     I've heard cries of these games being manipulated since the first survivor. So far, no contestant has won any lawsuit. It makes for great conspiracy theory threads, but that is about all there is to it. The day a manipulation is actually uncovered in one of these shows, it will be one no one theorized about. Truth is always stranger than fiction. |
What555456 | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 03:43 pm     I don't care. It is only a TV show. And we know most of the HG's never even asked to be on -- they were recruited the same as head hunters recruit any other employees, so the entire thing was rigged from the beginning this year. But they are slanting the competitions. I just wish they would do it to make these people more interesting. Is there any way an interesting personality or a mind could be included in the basket the HoH gets? |
Demeter | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 04:38 pm     I do believe it is considered a reality show and not a game show. The houseguests all get compensated for their time. They are each paid $750 per week. Not a lot of money, but they have room and board (grin). |
Bohawkins | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 04:42 pm     I posted a Limerick about people saying this last HOH competition was fixed... Click to check out the Limericks thread |
Mlt | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 04:45 pm     In case anyone is interested, here is the BB schedule for the next week. Justin is required to nominate Nate and either Jack or Erika. Ali is scheduled to win the POV (so that we can wonder if she will save Nate the way he saved her) Ali is not allowed to use the POV. Nate is scheduled to be evicted. During the next HOH competition, either Jack or Erika (depending on who Justin nominates as his pawn) is scheduled to win. ;) |
Midji | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 04:48 pm     LOL, Mlt!!! |
Jhezzie | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 04:51 pm     I think what bugs me most is that they're not even trying to hide the fact that they're fixing this year. At least in 2 and 3, they would "help" a HG once in while, and quietly. You couldn't be quite sure, you know? This year, they might as well just sit them down in the LR, tell them, "So-and-so will be HOH this week." and move on. Too bad this somehow isn't classified as a game show. They would HAVE TO run honest competitions. |
Laisey | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 04:52 pm     Demeter, I don't know about that. A weekly stipend equivalent to $39,000 a year doesn't sound too bad to me, especially when you get to sleep to noon most of the time. |
Seanflynn2003 | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 04:55 pm     I asked this on a previous thread, and don't believe anyone answered. Yes, the questions last night looked odd. But would somebody who thinks the show is rigged please explain why they wanted to rig it for Justin, just guaranteeing a very boring week on the show? Usually if one asserts a crime it helps to provide a motive. |
Jhezzie | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 04:55 pm     Mlt, ROTF! |
Laisey | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:16 pm     It isn't only the competitions that have me wondering, it's also the numbers. We started with a group of 8 (7 w/o Scott) vs. 5. Two of the 5 were gone the first two weeks and it seemed likely that the other three would soon follow. Not too good for AS X factor theme. Then three of the 8 (Jun, Dana, and Ali) have or seem to have moved to the other side. I'm really not sure why and I certainly wouldn't suggest that little seeds may have been planted in the DR (not much I wouldn't). Now it seems very possible that the nightmare team's scenario of the final six being all ex's of one another just might become reality. The X factor in full bloom. |
Csnog | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 08:48 pm     They have always planted seeds in the DR. I have thought this for the past 2 years, AS doesn't care as long as we are talking about the show (good or bad). I wish the FTC? would look into the DR tapes and see if they are rigging the show by telling them (HG) to do and act as they are told. |
Konamouse | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 09:01 pm     as long as they are not classified as a "game show", they can do anything they want. This is a new genre "reality show" and the "prize" comes with the participant (not contestant) signing a waiver that the producers own all rights (to editing and direction of the show). 'squeek' |
Seanflynn2003 | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 09:36 pm     Kona, this is a discussion that has gone on for years, and neither of us can prove our points, but my take is 1) the contracts they sign doesn't give them the right to be blantantly biased one way or another; 2) when a prize is involved, legally it is a game show; Real World and Queer Eye for the Straight Eye are reality shows, different genre; 3) CBS would be crazy to fix this; it would be a major black eye for them if it ever came out |
Tasia | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 01:49 am     I think suggestions are given each year to HG's very covertly, but I agree this year the guests were so bad off that you can almost see the directions being handed out. For some reason I keep thinking of that saying. New and Improved. How can something be improved if it's new? The same way how can you have a Reality show if you are told what to do or say. JMHO |
Jadar | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 02:02 am     Just heard Nate, Erika, Ali and Jack all discussing how odd the competitions have been. Nate swearing it felt like each comp was "tailored made" for a particular HG, like ping-pong, which he thought was perfect for him and just his thing. Apparently even the HGs think so, huh? |
Cathie | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 07:08 am     Speaking of conspiracy threads (somewhere up there), does anyone know what happend to Ewing? We could always count on him for some great conspiracy theories every year. |
Qt3141592 | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 07:16 am     Oh come now - the show *is* called, "Big Brother". Games rigged or not, the choice is up to Big Brother. The hamsters have rights ONLY to the extent allowed by Big Brother. |
Lovedana | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 08:11 am     Personally, I think that if anyone is convinced that this was fixed and dislikes that idea, he or she should stop watching the show. If I had a strong conviction about the show being fixed, I would not watch it at all. If I ever saw anything, it would be the two winners. I think people need to speak with their pockets. :-P Then BB will finally get it. So far BB seems slow in getting the messages from the fans. They modify what people weren't complaining about and leave what people complained about intact. So give them the silent treatment, for then they'll finally get it. ;) |
Lancecrossfire | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 09:33 am     My take on it is that the game is not "fixed" so that a specific person is going to win no matter what. I also think that every challenge is set up so that it favors a player. In some respects that can't be avoided--be it because of strength, ability to remember details, etc. I think what happens is that at times a challenge that best matches up to a player comes a long at a time when "they need it" or when an opponent has just gotten done been HOH. If we look back when that doesn't happen, I bet we coudl see that the test gives one player an advantage--we just don't notice it as much because of the circumstances. |
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