Tobor7 | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 08:32 pm     From what I heard today... Let me get this straight-- When Robert & Erika were going out, he cheated on her. This led to their break up. THREE years later, she calls Robert's new boss and talks trash about him causing him to lose his job. Now she feels bad about doing this since she knew he had a daughter at the time and was screwing him out of a good job. Is this accurate as far as what you heard. IF SO--- Then I have something to say about it, and it won't be very nice. |
Kmjm | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 08:38 pm     I thought she spoke to his boss at the time of the breakup, and he didn't actually lose his job at the time, but did later. It wouldn't surprise me if Robert lost his job for other reasons, and blamed it on Erika. That's his style. |
Needavacation | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 08:42 pm     For anyone that has a management position they would know, the whole idea of an ex calling up and getting their ex fired is crazy... if was terminated, he deserved it! |
Gina8642 | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 08:44 pm     I was under the impression that this 'phone call' was closer to the break up than that. Exact timing I'm not sure of... From what Robert says, his place of work didn't take the call seriously. These two people's stories vary so greatly, it is difficult to determine what's accurate. (Robert tells Jun/Jee/Justin Erika is NOT a pilates instructor, but a bartender. Erika tells Allie she recently took the class to become an instructor of pilates. She hasn't taken the final certification test yet. She teaches small classes and is just starting out. Mostly she tends bar. Robert says he is a restaurant manager. Erika says he was fired and is unemployed. Both have mentioned the 'phone call'. I think Erika called up his new boss and totally dissed him. What is unclear is whether she told complete lies or not. Robert has said his boss said don't worry about it. Erika has said he lost the job. It is unclear whether the job loss is supposed to do with the call or not. I've also heard talk of tire slashings - not sure who did it to who or if this was part of the info relayed in the phone call.) |
Justareader | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 08:45 pm     according to the convo they had today - which I heard - it was at the time and even though he did not get fired at the time, directly, it did cause him trouble later (as if that was his "first strike" and caused him to get introuble???(just an impression i got) |
Twiggyish | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 08:53 pm     Robert must not have been a good employee. |
Eddy4ever | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 09:01 pm     How I understood the convo (though I did miss the beginning)... Robert had just gone to a bunch of trouble setting this really good job up... Erika called the bosses (She worked for the restaurant across the street, which they also owned) and informed them what kind of person he was (that he'd slashed her car tires).. The bosses called Robert on speaker phone, and Robert said that Erika had claimed he was unstable... Rob said the bosses didn't believe her, but wanted to get his side of the story... Seems to me the opportunity fell in her lap to get back at him for slashing her tires, as well as whatever else transpired during their relationship, and she took it. She may have had a personal vendetta.. or she may have just done it because she worked for the same guys, and wanted to let them know what kind of man they'd just hired. Either way, she felt guilty, and was just apologizing. |
Woodpecke® | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 09:02 pm     We'd need far more specific information to comment on this "calling the boss" incident. If you want me to call Robert's old boss and ask for the complete scoop, I'll follow through and give you a full report after I get done touching IT. |
Onlyhuman | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 09:04 pm     From what I understand, three years after their breakup, Robert got a new job. It happened to be with a corporation that also employed Erika. Erika called Robert's direct boss and said he was harassing her and had slashed her tires. Robert said his boss called him in and talked to him about it and Robert denied all of it. The boss gave him the benefit of the doubt but it put Robert at a disadvantage and he had a hard time after that. This is what I've pieced together from everything that they have both said. |
Wendo | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 09:07 pm     Woodpecke® is touching it!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Peachie | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 09:15 pm     After Rob settles down and talks to Erika more and more, he admits she is not a bad person. There has also been talk out of his mouth that when he was drinking it caused him alot of trouble in his job/jobs. At the time the two were dating he was still into drinking heavily and that had alot to do with their breakup and he admitted that. He is <hd> but I will give kudos to him for doing the AA thing and going straight, there may be hope for him yet, for his daughters sake I hope so. |
Charvie | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 09:17 pm     I think it is in a lot of bad breakups crazy things happen. I don't think she is a evenge monger. If she were, it would be Robert she would be trying to kick out of the house not Justin. |
Happycamper | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 09:18 pm     I also got the impression from the conversation between Erika and Robert, that the phone call didn't teriminate his employment... (but led up to his termination) With that said, we should keep in mind that Robert began his heavy drinking about the same time as his relationship with Erika was ending. (could this have been the biggest factor in his loss of employment?) |
Tobor7 | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 09:18 pm     I knew others here would have more info. Why would she lie and say she was an instructor and not a bartender. IS she so ashamed of what she really does. |
Ark | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 09:19 pm     LOL, it's so funny how different people have put together different stories. I guess we'll just have to let Robert & Erika work it out without our help. |
Earthmother | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 09:27 pm     Wendo, Woodpecker is always touching it..lol |
Scorpiomoon | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 09:35 pm     Tobor7: I have always wondered the exact same thing! Ok, I'm confused. From everything I have heard, the whole "getting Robert fired" thing happened either during or right after their break up. But are you guys saying, three years after their relationship--three years after she made the first call--Erika called another one of Robert's bosses to "warn" them about Robert? She did it twice? |
Tobor7 | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 09:43 pm     I think only once. From today's convo-- I thought he said 3 years after they broke up. When he was telling the story to the other J3. But I watched him talk about it with Erika. She started crying and made an apology. She knew it would hurt his kid etc. He even mentioned the name of his Boss. (Tom I think.) |
Xarph | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 09:45 pm     We are talking about Robert here. Let's not forget that. Last night, Robert was running around saying (in the vilest of terms) that Jun cheated in POV contest. He went on and on about this. He finally stopped when Justin point out to him that there was no way Jun could have cheated. Justin said that she was smart and figured out exactly what she needed to do before she started. Robert often flys off the handle and accuses all sorts of people, especially women, for his problems. There are two sides to every story. I doubt if Erika is entirely blameless, but I do believe that Robert has greatly amplified whatever was there. |
Tobor7 | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 09:52 pm     No Xarph. I was talking about Erika. Not Robert. Her actions. Not his. Did she do what she did because it was him or because it is in her nature to do it? It was a convo between the 2 of them. She admitted what she did was wrong and cried with remorse. I just wanted to see of anyone had more info from previous convos about this stuff before I make a full comment on the nature of Erika's actions, remorse etc. |
Happycamper | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 10:20 pm     tabor, it was only in Robert's recount of the conversation...that he added "three years ago" (I did not hear this when him and Erika were talking one on one) Robert has made alot of accusations against Erika...including "she will kill your family" How many times have we heard this? Is there anything to it?? Why wasn't this discussed today between the two? Surely a death threat against your family requires more of an apology then a call to your boss...? If it was true, why didn't he bring it up ("killing your family") We have heard this talked about many times on the live feeds....but it has never been addressed in the DR. ??? (she will kill your family) She is either a total pyscho or he is a pathelogical liar. |
Misslibra | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 10:39 pm     Revenge monger ?! Hardly... I agree with most of everything people have reported in this thread about Erika's and Rob's convo earlier today. Also from what I understand Erika is a Bartender as well as a Pilate's Instructor. Robert made the comment she isn't a Pilate's Instructor because she only teach it once a week. (going by what he said) Excuse me but if she is teaching Pilate's even if it's once a week she is still teaching Pilate's. Because she choose to use the Pilate's Instructor instead of Bartender is no crime nothing at all wrong with that. And she never lied about being a bartender she told them for those who ask that she does bartend. Robert have been trying to get revenge against Erika since he entered the house, so whose the real revenge monger eh ? |
Cricket | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 10:44 pm     Umm, Happy Camper, I'd bet my right arm on the latter of the two. LOL, did anyone hear Robert talking to Erika after their discussion about possible alliances? He said something like "Oh, I get it. You're only being nice to Jack for the GAME." Is he really that gullible or dense? I was happy though to see that Erika reported the convo with Robert to Jack, Ha! Ha! |
Tishala | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 11:27 pm     Oh I really think they deserve each other. |
Xarph | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 11:39 pm     I thought I heard the entire conversation between Robert and Erika. I did not hear her admit to having done Robert any wrongs in the past. I thnk Robert may have added these details in a later retelling. I can not be sure of that, because I did not hear the later retelling. |