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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: The most disgusting BB night ever.: Archive through July 29, 2003

Bohawkins

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 09:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I just posted over in the thread entitled "3 weeks later- has it gotten better??" what I think could be an answer to this hate filled bunch of shallow minded bigots, bringing in an articulate activist.

Click here to check out my post over there

Max

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 09:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I haven't been watching the feeds this year. Just can't bring myself to get that involved. :)

It's worth remembering, though, that each year we see this kind of behavior and each year we are appalled.

Being in a closed, artificial environment such as the BB house tends to bring out behaviors in people that one might not otherwise see (or at least not see as much). Despite the fact that the HGs have pretty much nothing to do, there is a significant amount of stress involved in playing this "game." In fact, the lack of constructive things to do can cause stress. Throw in the fact that they are all competing against each other to win a large sum of money and that they are under constant scrutiny, and you have a recipe for bringing out the worst in people.

Maybe that's why I stopped paying much attention, although I loosely follow the action via the boards and do watch the edited TV show. Getting so involved in the negativity that becomes the BB house tends to cause stress in my life, too, and there's enough of that already. :)

Anyway, the point is that this happens every year with slight variations. Until we are down to the last four or five HGs, the behavior will continue. Then, they will suddenly become fast friends.

Cliotheleo

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 09:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP


I don't think they're any nastier than last year and let's not forget that Ali and Dana will probably walk hand in hand into the reunion show when it's all over with. They're just in that "I've been around you too much and you're getting on my nerves stage."

I would MUCH rather see back biting and in-fighting than everyone sitting around telling one another how much they loved one another before breaking into a chorus or "Kum By Ya."

Max

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 09:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bringing in an articulate activist of any type would blow these folks away, wouldn't it? From what I can gather, they'd pretty much turn all their anger onto that person VERY quickly and he or she would be gone in a heartbeat.

I don't get the impression that any of these folks would appreciate having anyone around who would hold up a mirror and tell them some hard truths about how they are behaving.

Lurknomore

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 09:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
A few comments:

First, I'm thrilled that I got so sad watching Dave alone in the HT that I turned the feeds off. When I turned them back on they were at the peak of that viagra chat and I had enough BB for the night TYVM. I stayed here a little bit longer but my feeds were OFF. So glad I missed all this.

Second, I do not feel this is the same as last year and Gerry. Last year they were mean to one individual unjustly. This year we have half a house saying just horrid, cruel, degrading and disgusting things. And the other side has been as bad? When? When Dave sang his psycho --itch song? That was not only funny it was TRUE. I have not heard any of them go on and on and berate or trash those wacko's.

Now my most important point. Regretfully Dave is gone...for reasons I can't figure out other than he is a strong player and good guy. Erika is there why? They call the other group the Dark side but from what I've seen the Dana, Jun group ARE the embodiment of "the dark side." And what fun will they be to watch. They will eat up the rest of the decent people, eat up the mediocre people, and then cackle and turn on each other until Jun wins. That is fun? That is interesting? BLECH!!!!!!!!

This has never happened before IMHO. It came a little close with the "chill town" group, but there were times of fun in the house, caring, laughter. This is just a trainwreck.

Spunky

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 09:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Please keep writing to CBS and show your disgust for the people they pick, boycot the feeds, ridicule the whole Shapiro company.

You British folks keeps laughing at it... someone will take notice.

Cliotheleo

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 09:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah Lurk, I guess why most of the talk doesn't bother me is that it seems to be pretty even handed. Wathcing them make sport of bashing Gerry when he never said an-unkind word to anyone was painful.

And as much as I LOVED Amy and Marc, I thought SOME of their behaviour was much more juvenile than anything I've seen this years HGs do.

Dke1212

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 09:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lurknomore
This year we have half a house saying just horrid, cruel, degrading and disgusting things. And the other side has been as bad? When? When Dave sang his psycho --itch song? That was not only funny it was TRUE. I have not heard any of them go on and on and berate or trash those wacko's

You must not be listening to often!
I guess it just comes down to which side you happen to favor. Comments out of a persons mouth (that you already like) don't seem that bad.

Bastable

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 09:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana's just a drama queen. So are many of us posters! I can live with all of this.

It's better than listening to them talk about movies and play drinking games all night.

Gypsy63

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 10:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I've decided not to read the live feed boards until after the next HOH in elected. Dana
and her gang are NUTSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!! How many
times can they discuss the same thing?

But I still love the Live Feed Posters...YOU ROCK!!!!!!

Maris

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 10:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lol Bastable, I agree with you and I am probably the biggest sinner which is why I like Dana. I cant tell you how many times this year watching the feeds I have said to myself "I am so pissed off, ___________(fill in the blank) just pisses me off.

Faerygdds

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 10:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If you want to wiegh the bashing. it's about even... as others have mentioned.... when you don't like a group of people, thier bashing will seem excessively mean and neverending. For those that don't like the OTHER group... thier bashing seems neverending and excessively mean. Get the point???

First week, Nate joined Dana in the who Psycho Scott thing. Even got her going a bit once by feeding into it. When Jee was HoH... they were trashing Dana.. Now that Dana is Hoh she has drawn the battle lines with 2 distinct sides. She upset the whole concept of sliding to the end in the view of the other 5.

The funny thing is that the now original 5 (I can't call them elite either) is even divided into 2 groups. I sat here and listened to Erika vent last night about how it shouldn't even be "them" up. and then lots of Dana bashing ensued...

My point is this.. when you want to post something negative about a group on this show... just remember that with this group it is probably likely that the exact same thing can be pointed out about the other group.

However... I don't feel it's any one person's FAULT... I think it is all of thier faults (with a few minor exceptions)

Mranon

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 10:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am quite disgusted at the "hate" in the house this year.

These people have no clue what the game is about. Calling people names is one thing, but calling them disgusting names and outright hating people behind their backs is bad news.

BB is going to pot, and I can guarentee that if these attitudes continue, BB will lose one of their loyal viewers.

I don't even want to watch the feeds anymore.

Lurknomore

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 10:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok but Scott WAS Psycho lol.

Beyond that I cannot recall every hearing Jack, Dave or Erika insult or trash anywhere near the degree of those others. Sorry I have watched the feeds, and I haven't heard it. Sure there were comments, but in my mind all much kinder than the other's words and actions had been. I've heard far more strategy talk than backstabbing from those folks.

Everyone is entitled to their perception, and this is mine.

Edited to add...with the exception of Erika's vile racist comment. But for those who have followed my posts you know I've never cared for her and dont' see, if one of those 3 had to go this week, why it wasn't her. I don't see her adding a thing to the game.

Maris

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 10:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
which vile racist comment is that lurk, the one about Jee or the one about Jun. lol. They are all trashing each other. Nobody is better or worse than anyone else.

Gina8642

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 11:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think every member of the house is guilty of some really vile bashing of their fellow houseguests. I see no exceptions except for Jack (and I fully admit, I could have missed something he has said.) Everyone else is guilty in my book.

Personally I've been most offended by Erika and her comments towards Jee. Are her comments worse than any of the others? Probably not, it is just until that time, I like Erika and she is good at acting the nice 'good girl'. So, when those vile comments came out (on two occasions I know of) I was extra offended. I guess I just expected better of her, but not the others.

Anyway, I'm sure each viewer, LF watcher, LFP reader, has their own hot button issues and will be most offended by those. It is also easier to see the bad in people you don't like, than the people you do.

So far, I admire Jack the most, because he hasn't sunk so low. (I hope I'm right about him, but I admit I haven't seen/heard everything.) Everyone else has sunk equally low in my mind and one isn't better than the other.

And I also think that this year is no where near as bad as last year. Dani's bashing of Amy and Gerry was unforgivable to me. Marc bashing of Gerry. Chiara's and Amy's mutual bashing. The Chi-wh$% - a comment. Etc, etc, etc. Nothing this year is any worse than that.

Friendofdot

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 11:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Does anyone remember the nasty relationship last year between Chiara and Amy? Next thing we knew, they were eating together in LA and "hanging out." I think Ali and Dana are from two different backgrounds and it is accentuated in a closed environment. Am hopeful they will be able to put some of this behind them after the show.

Lurknomore

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 11:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
But the difference TO ME is the Dana group jsut goes on and on and on and ON in their bashing. No, that in no way shape or form justifies Erika's idiotic comments, but at least I haven't had to listen to her, or Jack or Dave bash in EVERY single conversation they have showed of them.

I'm sorry but given their lack of personalities and NOTHING but endless bashing I feel this IS worsse than ever. I thought the character of many of last years HG's were reprehensible. They were nothing compared to this. Again...MY OPINION. If you do not share it that is fine, but please don't tell me I'm wrong. This is how I see it.

Goddessatlaw

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 11:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Blech, just got through reading the live feeds from last night. In paraphrase, Jack to Dana: you had a hard decision, I don't blame you for it. Dana to Jack: yes, and you need to be very grateful to us. I said to myself "••••? Grateful to Dana and posse? For screwing up the Ali nom, putting Jack on the block, then putting Dave on the block who no one really wants to leave, but everyone's voting him out anyway, and causing Erika to run around crying all night? And best yet, blaming the whole thing on Nathan and Ali, calling them everything but blond and white." Thank you, Dana. So grateful, Dana. You the best, Dana. Jack knows this, Dana. See you on the outside next week, Dana. That girl is nuts.

Ed. to add: by the way, I want her to stay because I'm really developing a dislike for her, which is the sum and total of my emotions for anyone in the house right now. I can parlay that into a reason for watching - I want her demise to be slow and painful.

Mranon

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
To use Dana logic :

Since I posted Live Feed Posts, you must all be greatful to me and bow before me. I posted, therefore I rule this board and I am in charge of it. Although others may be physically in charge of this board, I am in control because I have people who have read my feeds and therefore are groupies to me. I am not at fault for anything wrong I may have posted that was incorrect. It is your fault for making me type the words onto the screen because you read them. If I have to post again, you must agree that what I type is absolutely accurate and correct and that I am right. If you don't agree or you think you need to change it, I reserve the right to bash you and then say you are racist towards Anonymous people.

I will only type what I believe to be the truth and if that truth is hurtful to you, oh well. I am what matters on this board, not you. I just want to ask you why you think you have the right to type on this board when clearly I do not want you to. If I don't get to ask you that, I will make sure I get someone else to ask you for me and then have them report back to me with a 1/2 truth. If I get removed from this board because of my mistakes, I will only blame you for it.

Bonzacat

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Mranon! Love it!

"I post, therefore, I am..."

Cinder

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with everything Mranon says- until Ali wins HOH.

Spunky

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL

Goddessatlaw

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOLOL - great post, Mranon. And that's pretty much how it is. Didn't Dana grant Erika permission to vote out Jack? Such a benevolent dictator, they are all her children. I'll be very surprised if they don't stage a coup against the producers and insist that Dana be HOH for life, they're so grateful to her.

Marej

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Did Dana just tell Erica that it is all her (erica's) f****** fault Dave is leaving?