Archive through September 01, 2003
TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1:
Erika's JA is BB1 Josh?:
Archive through September 01, 2003
Zachsmom | Monday, September 01, 2003 - 10:52 am     WHEW!  |
Sanfranjoshfan | Monday, September 01, 2003 - 11:15 am     Mrose4243 - "If Josh and Erika really wanted to keep this secret, they would have removed pictures and any mention of their relationship from Josh's website BEFORE this year's show began." This makes me wonder....exactly when were those pictures removed from Joshsouzaonline.com? I know the ones that *I* posted were ones that I d/l from his site myself....but I got them there in July of 2002! (I've had those beach pix on my HD all this time, but never had any reason to go check out who Josh was posing WITH on that beach until this whole thing came up!) This just makes me wonder when the pictures were removed....was it just recently....or was it months ago or even a year ago? |
Draheid | Monday, September 01, 2003 - 11:24 am     Zmom  |
Kizz | Monday, September 01, 2003 - 11:36 am     I'm a little late in on this thread, but I read the whole thing thru in one sitting. I agree with Bastable, the thing that is most disappointing to me is the lazy casting practices ASP uses, although I must say that there are probably darn few people who would be able to give up their "real" lives for this length of time, and that is why your average aspiring actors tend to be the only ones who can make it work. Also, I believe Erikas "haggard" and "saggy" appearance is directly related to her PBJ diet...she has said herself that she is starving...remember how bad Survivor Heidi looked at the end? |
Zachsmom | Monday, September 01, 2003 - 11:44 am     I am loving all the kisses that Drah is giving me! LOL (looks around for Jmm) back at you Drah! On topic- I don't think it's a big deal that Josh & Erika are together. |
Trinity2525 | Monday, September 01, 2003 - 11:51 am     I've just sent a email to josh hehehehehehe How can they think that we would never know. The only thing i can tell you is to do the same lol |
Reader234 | Monday, September 01, 2003 - 12:06 pm     First off I would like to disclose that I have no problem with the 'alleged' (where is GAL?!) connection of Josh and Erika. I would also like to congratulate all the detectives, and insightful posters - both sides!! One thing, are we assuming that the 'jury' or other hg would care? I think most of these hg wouldn't have a clue as to why it could be 'conceived' as "insiders help ' nepotism'( however I'm sure someone would tell them - giving an excuse not to vote for Erika!!) just my thoughts... |
Luvmom | Monday, September 01, 2003 - 12:08 pm     Sanfran, The pictures were still there at least a couple of months ago.My daughter and I were gazing through them for the millionth time,and I am happy for Josh and Erika.We thought his girlfriend was really pretty and sweet looking.That was a long time ago.I'm glad to see we were right. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Monday, September 01, 2003 - 12:31 pm     Reader234 - "One thing, are we assuming that the 'jury' or other hg would care?" For me, I know I'm not assuming that the jury or other HG would care....the really interesting part is why Erika, Josh, and Robert care enough to keep this secret. This makes me think that they (all three of them) have a common motive for keeping this quiet. Since this is a competitive GAME (one in which knowledge is power...), it is doubly interesting: 1. Erika's motive for keeping this secret *may* be that she is worried about the other HG's perception of favortism or something. In any case, she is the only "secret keeper" that does have what could be perceived as a logical motive to keep quiet. 2. Robert's motive to keep this secret is suspect, since keeping it quiet could help Erika (his *opponent* in a competitive game), while spilling the beans could possibly help HIM. 3. Josh's motive for keeping this secret is *really* curious. After all, the HGs will not read his column until AFTER the game is over, so he is only keeping the secret from everyone *outside* the house. The bottom line is that there was no way that *anyone* could have believed that this could *remain* a secret. I mean, there were pictures of Josh and Erika on Josh's web site OVER A YEAR AGO! Erika's name is listed right there in the credits of Josh's TV show as "executive producer". There are *plenty* of people that already knew they had some sort of relationship (whether romantic or professional...doesn't really matter) long, long before BB4 started. The only common motive I can think of that would control all these folks are CBS and the BB producers. Either they are forcing them to keep it quiet under threat of a law suit, or it has to do with the game, as some sort of new "twist". This whole revelation is *just* weird enough to make me really curious....enough to suspect more than the idea that they are just protecting their own privacy or something... |
Costacat | Monday, September 01, 2003 - 12:47 pm     I, too, would be very curious if this had something to do with another twist. I doubt that, though. I think pressure has been exerted on Robert (from CBS or the producers) to keep quiet about Erika's "alleged" relationship with Josh. It's also highly likely that Josh didn't sign a release, therefore any direct comments regarding him and his "alleged" relationship with Erika would be cause for concern. Has Erika made any comments about missing her BF lately? She did, earlier in the game. But lately, all I've heard mention is her mom and her dogs. |
Seamonkey | Monday, September 01, 2003 - 12:48 pm     Earthmother.. I know Josh has his OWN site but I don't think he owns realitystars.. and he is keeping this secret while posting biased commentary there. As for emailing.. I emailed both Josh's address and the webmaster of reality starts at the beginning of this discovery and no answer has been forthcoming.. maybe they think if they ignore it, it will just "go away"? |
Seamonkey | Monday, September 01, 2003 - 12:53 pm     Erika has said they were off and on, but the other day Robert was talking about some girl he met before coming into the house but didn't get "involved" because he wanted to come into the house unfettered, put that stuff on hold.. Erika said she didn't put hers "on hold" which sounded to me like she was involved, just not advertising it (as Jee does 24/7) Last night she and Ali talked about how they cannot imagine long relationships like Ali's parents have had .. Erika firmly stated that she wouldn't think about getting married unless she was going to have children. Otherwise if you are living together it is "just like" being married. And of course she's told the other girls about how younger men are better.. Ali whined that Donny is younger but Jun and Erika said no like 7 years!! But that Ali is too young for that difference now. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Monday, September 01, 2003 - 12:58 pm     Costacat - "alleged"? I think it is pretty well established that they *do* have a relationship of some kind. At the very least it is a professional relationship, since she is executive producer of his show.....although, the beach pictures make it appear to be one of a more personal nature (unless they were both simply doing a modeling gig). In any case, they DO know each other and Erika is an executive producer on Josh's show. The only thing that is not established is the exact nature of their relationship, and why they are taking such great pains to keep it secret. |
Costacat | Monday, September 01, 2003 - 01:07 pm     Sanfran, read the post from Reader. That's where I picked up the "alleged." And actually, the relationship we are talking about is more than the executive producer of a show type. So yes, THAT (romantic) relationship is still "alleged." |
Beagle | Monday, September 01, 2003 - 01:07 pm     I dunno guys, maybe she's a mole put in the house by CBS? That would be a hell of a twist to the game.
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Xarph | Monday, September 01, 2003 - 01:34 pm     The Wayback Machine May 29, 2002 archieve copy of Josh's "Update Page" says: "Pictures from my recent trip to Hawaii with my girlfriend, Erika, will be up at JoshSouzaOnline.com in the next month." |
Chula | Monday, September 01, 2003 - 01:41 pm     There WERE pictures of Josh and a girl on the JoshSouzaOnline.com "Hawaii" pages before BB4 started. That page is gone now. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Monday, September 01, 2003 - 01:49 pm     Right Chua....those pix were removed. Those are the same pix that are posted in the beginning of ths thread...the same ones I d/l from joshsouzaonline over a year ago. |
Seamonkey | Monday, September 01, 2003 - 01:55 pm     Well it is an intimate relationship as described by Erika.. sex with a younger guy being so much better, yadda yadda.. so unless she happens to have a different boyfriend who is 26 and goes by "J.A." and who she's been with off and on for three years, I'd hazard a good guess that they ARE a couple. |
Kappy | Monday, September 01, 2003 - 02:06 pm     Too bad Josh couldn't have been one of the "ex;s" this year. Now that would have been fun to watch! Are there any rules against participating twice? Bravo is going to have a tv show about "reality tv shows". Saw Will in the preview. Looks like they've interviewed winners and contestants from a variety of shows ~ Richard Hatch is there. One woman described how much of the show she was on was scripted but I didn't recognize her. But it would explain some of the winners like Lisa from BB3 and hmmm, whats-her-name? from the last Survivor. So I'll be watching this one. It debuts next week. |
Gina8642 | Monday, September 01, 2003 - 02:09 pm     She also described her BF as a civil engineer - also matches Josh. It's him. I have zero doubts. Now the question is - why did CBS work so hard to make this a secret? If there is no conflict of interest, why didn't they just release the info in the first place? It is ok with me that they kept it secret inside the house. |
Pamy | Monday, September 01, 2003 - 02:29 pm     Maybe AS told Erika and Robert not to mention Josh. |
Juju2bigdog | Monday, September 01, 2003 - 02:32 pm     Just had a thought - we have had people watching the house 24/7 ever since it started, and this seems to be the first time Robert and Ericka got together and discussed J.A. Now, if Robert did not know Ericka was going to be in the house, and Ericka did not know Robert was going to be in the house, but they both know Josh is Ericka's boyfriend, isn't it really odd that they have not discussed it before this? The conclusion I draw is that Josh AND Erika AND Robert all knew Erika and Robert were going to be in the house, and they all have a conspiracy of silence. Where is Ewing when we need him? |
Sanfranjoshfan | Monday, September 01, 2003 - 02:37 pm     Juju2bigdog - That crossed my mind, too....but then I remembered that the HGs entered the house on a Saturday and the 24/7 feeds didn't start until the first episode premiered a few days later. They could easily have talked about it in those first few days. |
Justshirley | Monday, September 01, 2003 - 02:43 pm     Juju -- I thought about the same thing (as to why we never saw on the LFs the original conversation where Erika asked Robert not to say anything about Josh). Then I remembered that they were in the house for, what? 3 days before the live feeds started? It would make sense that Erika would talk to Robert about this right away, so I'm assuming the conversation took place before the feeds went live. OR, if BB is indeed behind Robert keeping his silence, BB had a talk with Robert about it in the DR, which we of course would not be privy to. Edited to add that great minds think alike, SanFran. And I shouldn't take phone calls in the midst of composing a post. ;) |
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