The House the 7 get sent to when evicted...
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The House the 7 get sent to when evicted...
Jasonfan | Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 01:12 am     It sounds to me like we've moved from one evicted player having control over the final votes to the producers directing the result(more so than they already control the game). If the jury members get to see "selected" portions of the shows, won't that bias them big time? I think if they're sequestered, they should have no interaction with the still playing guest. What they say to one another is fine, but that's it. |
Seanflynn2003 | Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 11:58 am     My dream (wicked) is that Erika and Robert are the first two evictees sent to the sequestered house; maybe Erika in two weeks (I believe that is the first to not be sent home) and then Robert up the following week, knowing that if he is ousted he goes straight to h--l, uh, Erika's place |
Maris | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 05:02 pm     I thought I would revive this thread a little bit since everyone today is talking about wanting to get to the sequestration house on the beach and drink their tequilas. This is what I think is going to happen. They are going to go to a house on the lot. They will have plenty of food. They will probably be given x many hours a day to watch a movie or pre taped television shows. They will have their exercise equipment and books. That will be it. |
Grannyg | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 05:08 pm     Maris, that is exactly what I was thinking and hoping for. Can you only imagine the anger the ex HG's are gonna feel when they find out they are still stuck in a house with each other. And they will still NOT have outside contact. Rob will certainly hit the panic button then. |
Laisey | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 05:20 pm     Jee was talking the other night about getting a monitored phone call and maybe an hour dinner. I had the impression he had been told this in DR in response to a question about being in touch with his family and girl while sequestered. |
Spunky | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 06:38 pm     I don't believe any of this.... They'll be in a resort nearby... |
Laisey | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 06:56 pm     I figure Survivor must have had some real buildings for the production crew on their locations. I think the one in the Amazon would be perfect for this group. |
Happymom | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 07:12 pm     I'm pretty sure that the Survivor jury is not allowed to compare notes. Even though they are sequestered together, they are not allowed to discuss the game at all, they only get to sit and listen at TC. Now...whether or not they actually do compare notes...well...who knows? It depends on how closely monitored they are. I don't feel that the same rules will be applied to the evicted HGs, which is a shame. I don't know, of course. Maybe they will not be allowed to discuss the game. That would be great! Especially with this bunch, they are so resentful, vindictive, etc. I look forward to seeing footage of the sequestered jury. I also think that towards the end of BB, the remaining HGs will get a reward of seeing edited footage of the evicted, sequestered HGs. |
Bracken | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 07:30 pm     I'm amazed that there is all of this conjecture about the so-called second house being non-existent. Ryn has posted a portion of the article below in this thread and it seems that many posters want to disregard the information it contains. See entire article below. I have separated the information about the second house by drawing a ************ line to show where the information about the second house begins. The producers of this show don't give the fans much information if any at all, when they do, I tend to think that they are not misleading us. After all, their reasons for the second house makes perfect sense as they will probably need additional film as the numbers dwindle, it must become very difficult to get enough film for an hour show when there are two or three left. Article posted by Ryn in Outside the House area. VARIETY - June 30, 2003 'Brother' big on 'ex' appeal Now that the contestants on "Big Brother 4" have been safely sequestered, producers today will reveal a new twist on the CBS reality show's traditional format. Hoping to add more drama to the summer staple, exec producers Arnold Shapiro and Allison Grodner have concocted a plan to reunite ex-boyfriends, ex-girlfriends and ex-spouses within the "Big Brother" house -- without any of them knowing. Shapiro and Grodner call it "Big Brother 4: The X Factor." "We think we have the most exciting and unpredictable twist that we have ever done," Shapiro said. "I can hardly wait to see how it plays out." In past summers, "Big Brother" has simply followed the exploits of strangers cooped inside a house, where they must adapt to each other and life without contact from the outside world. Love connections This time around, after casting an initial nine contestants, the "Big Brother" crew started investigating those players' former loves (without their knowledge) and contacting those exes, four of whom were ultimately recruited for the show. All told, 13 players (seven men, six women) will live in the "Big Brother" house this summer, up from 12 a year ago. That means eight of the players will be stuck in the house with their former flames, while the other five won't be. And none of the contestants -- even the four who were chosen later in the process -- know that they're about to encounter their exes in the house. "As a result of the way we did this, Alison and I and the entire casting department can qualify as spies for the CIA," Shapiro said of the covert casting operation. "This had to be done so delicately and creatively." Shapiro credited Grodner with initially creating the "X Factor" idea. "We see 'Big Brother' as a soap opera, and thought this was perfect soap opera fodder," Grodner said. "For us it was all about what could we do that was so different from the other years. What better way than bringing in pre-existing relationships, and potentially volatile ones?" Strategic moves The producers believe the "X Factor" will alter the contestants' pre-conceived strategies in the house, as some exes form alliances and others go head-to-head. As in years past, houseguests will vote each other out of the house on a weekly basis, with the final player winning $500,000. Shapiro and Grodner also have other changes in store for "Big Brother 4," which premieres Tuesday, July 8, at 8 p.m. (show will also air Wednesdays at 9 and Fridays at 8). "Big Brother 4" will include the show's youngest-ever (19) and oldest (59) houseguests. And unlike past years, no one in this year's cast is married. ************************************************ The producers also decided this year to open up another house to sequester players who have been voted out of the "Big Brother" house, starting with the fifth banished houseguest. That way, the final group of seven players -- who ultimately return to pick the show's winner -- won't be swayed by what they see on the show. They'll be allowed to watch portions of what airs on the "Big Brother" telecast, but not segments from the "Diary Room" -- in which contestants reveal secrets about their strategy. Those isolated players will continue to be taped, with some footage from house No. 2 likely to be used on the show. "When they're in this house, they're still playing the game," Grodner said. Decision to keep sequestering the players came after last year's show, when producers felt that banished houseguest voters were swayed by watching the Diary Room comments. ************************************************* As for the house itself, Shapiro and Grodner have redecorated it to boast a swingin' '60s-style motif -- complete with shag carpet. "Big Brother 4" comes from Shapiro/Grodner, in association with Endemol USA. John de Mol created the format. |
Seanflynn2003 | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 07:48 pm     For all the speculation that the house will be hell for the sequestered jury members, keep in mind that BB5 will need to recruit cast members, and a negative experience this year will reduce the members of the hamster pool to an even more desperate group It may not be a resort, but it will be a decent enough place They likely will also get outside of the house chaperoned activities |
Costacat | Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 08:04 pm     Yah but... keep in mind that those sequestered continue to receive their weekly stipend. So they actually win all around (they continue with their 15 minutes of fame and they continue to make a small amount of bux). Since they are almost all "former" somethings (meaning it sounds like many of 'em aren't seriously working anywhere, but on this I have no proof), that's a bit of an incentive. |
Hobbs | Friday, July 25, 2003 - 06:54 am     I'm telling you, the 2nd "house" is right behind the wall of the backyard. I saw it before the season started on the BB4BBQ site. Dana thinks she is going to sit on a tropical beach sipping on Mai Tais earning a whopping $700.00 a week (which is what, $350 after CA taxes.) I can see when they put her in there, she'll be sreaming, "I didn't sign up for this!" Now THAT will be classic TV. Bwahahahahaha! |
Cricket | Friday, July 25, 2003 - 07:47 am     Quote: "Shapiro and Grodner also have other changes in store for "Big Brother 4," which premieres Tuesday, July 8, at 8 p.m. (show will also air Wednesdays at 9 and Fridays at 8)." I wonder when will we see the "other changes?" I hope it's soon, because the Dana crew are boring me to death. The article says sequestering starts with the 5th banished houseguest. 5 + 7 = 12. Was Scott (13th) just a throw in? An actor? Why haven't the houseguests figured out the base is 12, not 13 people, and discussed it? Why does Dana think if she makes it until next week, she will make it to sequestering? So far only 2 houseguests have been evicted. Third one this week and next week's evictee will not be part of sequestering either. LOL, they've got to keep Dana for sequestering because the fools aligned with her now totally deserve the punishment of have to be around her longer, especially that traitor Jun. Has anyone seen news that discusses why there were 13 players in the beginning when the whole game plan is based on 12 players? |
Laisey | Friday, July 25, 2003 - 07:56 am     Scott is being counted as one of the first to leave, so sequestering will start with 4th to be "evicted." Scott, Amanda, Michell and this week's evictee - not on jury. 13 - 4 = 9. 9 - 2 (the two finalists) = 7. Thus 7 member jury. |
Cricket | Friday, July 25, 2003 - 09:29 am     Ahh, thanks Laisey. That makes sense. I forgot about the 2 finalists. Darn, with Scott being kicked out, they should make it a 6-man jury to be fair to everyone. It's very irritating to see some of these players not playing to win, but rather just to be sequestered. They wouldn't be making the same suicidal decisions if they were playing to win. They'd be more accountable to everyone in the house, not just their allies. I wonder if AS and Allison (producer) thought about the ramifications of this and how it would change the way the game is being played. |
Laisey | Friday, July 25, 2003 - 09:55 am     Cricket, the way this game is going I'd like to forget about the two finalists. I find it amusing that the HGs are now moving from not wanting to be sequestered with certain people to deciding that they'll be in a nice hotel and won't have to see one another if they don't want to. Next, they'll decide that BB will sequester their loved ones with them. |
Kellirippa | Friday, July 25, 2003 - 04:33 pm     bump |
Maris | Friday, July 25, 2003 - 04:38 pm     Today on the feeds I caught the HGs talking about what they packed. Ali said she packed 20 dvds, Robert packed cds and dvds. I am guessing this is in relation to sequestration. They could bring dvd's music, books, etc. Meanwhile these bozos still think they are going to be drinking margaritas in Cancun. |
Justareader | Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 06:28 am     Is it possible that the banished/evicted HG's will have the same access to the live feeds as we do? THAT would be an interesting twist. We see as much as goes on in the house as AS allows us, which excludes the DR, thus, we make decisions on whose game we like or don't like. I think to get a fair vote at the end this is necessary. Is it possible that the date the first HG in the outed house corresponds to the date that the feeds are being broadcast in the UK? Hmmmm.... |
Brat | Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 02:01 pm     I have found myself wondering if they built a second house right on the lot so they could sell a second set of feeds. Has anyone heard any scuttlebut on this? |
Happymom | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 10:40 am     I wonder how it will go with the first evicted- sequestered-in-the-2nd-house HG. That's going to be a very lonely week. I guess they'll have handlers to keep them company. |
Costacat | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 10:50 am     I would think, after over a month of living in a house with a bunch of baboons, that a week of peace 'n quiet 'n solitude would be a wondrous event. Oh wait, this current crop aren't baboons. That was last season, with the picking of nits! |
Auntie | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 12:06 pm     robert mentioned yesterday that bb told him to get a passport, but he didn't do it. it suddenly occurred to me that the UK bb ended this week, which means that house is empty. is it any coincidence that the us bb is being shown over there? maybe not. maybe the sequestered houseguests are going to be sequestered in the uk bb house! |
Laisey | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 12:45 pm     Auntie, the only thing wrong with that idea is that it makes sense. Use of the house could have been included in deal to show BBUS. They would have known the exact dates of the evictions and could have obtained air tickets at a cheap price by buying them well in advance. Since Scott's leaving would mean the first jury member would be evicted a week early, that could tie in with the chart on CBS that looks as though there will be no eviction next week. If they've already got the tickets, they probably wouldn't want to pay any penalties for changing them. Since there are cameras in the house, that would fit in the following quote from an earlier post: Those isolated players will continue to be taped, with some footage from house No. 2 likely to be used on the show. "When they're in this house, they're still playing the game," Grodner said. Interesting, verrrry interesting. I hope this is what happens. So much for the HG dreams of a paid vacation at the beach and going clubbing every night. I so hope you are right. |
Seanflynn2003 | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 12:57 pm     CBS and the BB producers would normally have high-level promotional tie ins with airline so that buying advance tickets wouldn't be necessary Also to buy any ticket these days you need to know the exact name of the passenger, so unless the suggestion is that BB knows which HG is going which day in advance, then they couldn't do that anyway |
Auntie | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 01:51 pm     it may be that there will be a secondary game going on in the sequestered house. that would be interesting! |
Lilycakes | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 02:07 pm     I vaguely remember reading that articale before but now I see more to it. I wonder if the "X" factor might not just be the ex-romances but come back into play with ex-houseguests too as "When they're in this house, they're still playing the game," Grodner said. |
Cricket | Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 09:43 am     I just thought of something that might kick it up a notch in the 2nd house. They should show each evicted houseguest what everyone else in the house really said about them. That would make it a no-holds barred house. Nothing to lose by letting it all hang out. I would love to see Dana's reaction when she sees who her real enemies were. |
Cliotheleo | Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 09:45 am     Are you talking about diary room or non-diary room conversations? If you are talking about DR, I agree, that would be a SPLENDID idea, but the word is they won't get to see them and that is in fact the very reason they're being sequestered. As dumb of an idea as the x factor was, I think not letting them see the DR sessions may be even more dumb. |
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