Archive through August 24, 2003
TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1:
Now this is going too far!:
Archive through August 24, 2003
Gina8642 | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 11:40 am     I know it is the nature of this board to take a few comments and blow them WAY out of proportion and over analyze things to death. I see this thread as just another case of this... Nothing of what Jack, Jun, or Ali has said even begins to warrent all this type condemnation or outrage. It is only a game, it was only a few throw away comments... I'll stop posting in this thread now, condem away without me. I tried to be a reasonable voice, but no one is interested in looking at this in a reasonable balanced way. I guess it is more fun to get outraged. I'm gonna go get outraged at Robert now.... At least his comments have not all been in jest (IMO of course) Enjoy! |
Crossfire | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 11:44 am     Game on. |
Karuuna | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 11:46 am     Hmmmm... as a 45 year old woman, does this mean I can no longer ogle 20-something men? I just want to be sure I understand the rules around here.  |
Kalekona | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 11:50 am     All has jumped beds with how many different guys in the house already and she's "scared" Jack looks at her. Please give me a break. Have we all forgotten Ali is in the pagent scene? She is very use to be ogled by old men.. and playing it up for the judges, many of which are as old as Jack. This is a lame and low accusation. I hope jeebert are smart enough to see it as just that. For the record i do believe Jee was joking about the "wear something low cut" to Erika as he said the same thing to Jack. While on the subject kind of, we've gone over the "no openly gay" comment.. doesn't it make sense if there is someone gay in that house it could be Jack? He's divorced yet still lives with his Ex... just a thought, not an accusation. But it makes more sense than Nate. lol |
Gidget | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 11:52 am     I don't condone Jun and Ali's behavior but this only argues against the token old guy. If the target advertising audience is 25-39 then the houseguests should be drawn from that age group with a really wide mix, not one the same age. We'd get guests with a bit more maturity, yet young enough to get frisky and look good in scanty wear. Furthermore, none of them would be too apart in age as potential couples. And none of them would easily be the pervert target. What's up with the token old guy? By the way Jack looks pretty good to me. If he'd do something with that hair he could flirt with me all he wants. |
Bearware | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 11:53 am     Gina, as a female school teacher, I've seen firsthand the damage done to the lives of men who are accused of similar things. Once that damage is done, there is no going back, the window is broken (so to say) and nothing can return the man's life to it's previous state. Somehow, society is easier on women. But when older men are accused by younger women, it does serious and lasting damage. If the damage is warrented, I say they should suffer the consequences. If not, the women are heinous and ugly for destroying a life on a whim. |
Rainwoman | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 12:26 pm      |
Maris | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 12:36 pm     Bear, I think it is a bit of a stretch to say Jacks life is going to be ruined by what Ali and Jun may say about him in a game. I would think his life is more likely to be ruined as he has to listen to endless ribbing by his contemporaries for his less than stellar performances in the competitions. |
Demsome | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 12:42 pm     LOL Maris, I agree. I said before on one other thread he will be embarrased about his performance in the comps, and I got lambasted. Of course that was weeks ago and I think people now are realizing he wasn't throwing the comps... just losing.. sadly. |
Fruitbat | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 12:52 pm     This thread has now become it's title. Jack is not going to be ruined by two girls plotting to lie and say bad things to get ahead in a game. Not going to happen. Maris, you make a good point.  |
Texasdeb | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 12:58 pm     Karunna, I too am a healthy 45 yr old woman. I too enjoy good male eye candy. God gave us vision to use. Just because Jack is old enough to be anyone's Dad should not exclude him from looking or even joking around as all the others seem to do with maybe the exception of Erika. Ali & Jun (to some level) are just being immature! Jack's not been in bed with anyone. Jack's not put on a skimpy little bathing suit & paraded around or cooked in it. I just think these folks have too little else to talk about. |
Karuuna | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 01:10 pm     Thanks, Deb. I'm glad to know I can still bark at the cars going by, even if I can't chase 'em like I used to. As I recall, I don't think Jack dressed up in any skimpy vegetable outfits either, and when he did dress up as a fruit, he was more than adequately covered.  |
Puzzled | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 01:19 pm     If looking at eye candy as it's being paraded before you and engaging in some harmless inunendo makes you a dirty old man, then almost every man over fifty is a dirty old man. What twaddle! |
Jmm | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 01:20 pm     Ok, I'm tired of biting my tongue (and my fingers) on this matter. All I'm going to say is that if there is such a thing as karma - I know two little girls who are going to be butt deep in true "dirty old men" when they get out of this house.  |
Xarph | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 01:36 pm     "Jack is not going to be ruined by two girls plotting to lie and say bad things to get ahead in a game." Before making this judgement, I will wait and see if and how Arnie presents this on TV. |
Bearware | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 02:31 pm     Maris, I just disagree. Maybe he won't be ruined financially, as he's retired - but his daughter's friends, and his ex-wife's friends will always wonder. The problem with casual besmirchment of one's character is that no one but that person really knows, and people tend to believe the worst. This is unadulterated evil, and those girls should be very ashamed. I'm sure they WILL be when they get older to really understand the repercussions of their actions. |
Maris | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 02:33 pm     Well if they will always wonder about him at this stage of their relationships with him, it doesnt say much about their relathionship. |
Bearware | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 02:37 pm     Their FRIENDS - not his wife and kids. |
Tishala | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 02:39 pm     LOL. Oh and poor Dana's friends will always think of her as "buzzard's crotch" or "thinking with her panites"! It's true--people DO tend to believe the worst and it was unadulterated evil for someone to say those things about her. It looks like the "karma" thing is working: maybe this will show that Jack needs to understand the repercussions of his actions. Is this why it's called a game and not "real life"? |
Maris | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 02:39 pm     ok, then they wouldnt be friends would they. I am just saying this is much ado about nothing and a little melodramatic. |
Karuuna | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 02:40 pm     As far as I remember, far worse accusations were made about Gerry, and as far as I know, I don't believe it's had any adverse effect on his life including his teaching job. Admittedly he took some ribbing, but he seems to be doing just fine. I think the majority of people realize this is just a game show, and people say stupid and false things in order to try to win. What they're saying is stupid and untrue, I doubt it will help them in the game (which makes it even more stupid), and I doubt it will stick to Jack in any meaningful way. Some folks may think he's boring or a bit senile, or incompetent at the games, but if that's the worst rep he gets from being on BB4, I think he's doing pretty good.  |
Livinnafishbowl | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 02:40 pm     I wonder if it were someone like Sean Connery, Mel Gibson, or Harrison Ford taking sneak peaks at them, would they have a problem?? IMO, I have found that most women (NOT ALL) don't mind a good looking man (reguardless of age) taking a bit of a longer glance at them but if the guy is not attractive....he must be a perv. **27 yr old female who would love to be ogled by Harrison Ford!** |
Seanflynn2003 | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 02:41 pm     Jack is going to be just fine. There is no way that even if this is on the show it won't rebound to his benefit (as sort of a misinterpreted type of thing). Jack comes from a loyal community; people he knows aren't going to turn on him. I take back what I said before - this is becoming much to do about nothing. |
Tishala | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 02:43 pm     Of course it is Sean. Welcome back from the Other Side. |
Bearware | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 02:44 pm     I do hope what Sean and Karuna say will happen. I've just seen that backfire too many times, and too close to home. My concern is that these two selfish young girls are willing to sacrifice someone that completely. I guess there's a lot people will do for a half a mil. It's a shame. I'm done with this thread now - going on to better things, but I WILL boycott the show and it's advertisers if they make Jack look like a pervert. |
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