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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: The least Allison could do is .... save Nathan: Archive through August 07, 2003

Scandalousplaya

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The girl is playing the game. Yes, she's manipulative and conniving, but lets face it that's to be expected. It is a game, but if it wasn't for Nathan her butt would have been home. She wouldn't been on jury and she would have had her birthday cake at home. If she throws the POV competition then she is the biggest <Mod hd> ever! At this point anyone can win BB4 with the exception of her.

Smokey

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree about wanting absolutely ANYONE to win except for her.

I sure wouldn't hold my breath or bet money on her using the veto even if she won it.

Bmh

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah Good ole Alison already told Jun she isn't gonna even try and win the POV...Looks like she is more than willing to sacrifice Nate

Scandalousplaya

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Then Smokey, I hope Nathan confronts her! Or better yet tell her that if she doesn't save him then she can kiss the $500K goodbye, because he should threaten her and tell that he will do anything necessary to make sure she doesn't win the grand prize. Something like, "Well Ali you already don't have two votes for the grand prize."

Smokey

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well yeah, Scandalous, from your lips to Nathan's ears to Ali's ears. I wish he would tell her in no uncertain terms, just what she is. That would make me waaaaaaaaaaaaay happy. :)

I was really hoping that Justin would nominate Ali in honor of Dana or some such thing (wishful thinking!). Just a way for him to make up for voting her out. It would have been so cool if he nominated her and said, "hey, it's just strategic...part of the game, nothing personal".

Zachsmom

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well...I am still under false BB hope that Erika will win POV and gets Jack off..Then Justin puts up Ali and then Ali gets voted out!

That would be fun...that would be drama!

Smokey

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If I were writing the script, that's exactly how I'd have it go down next week. :) Perfect, huh?

Zachsmom

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yep! Too bad the producers don't understand that when their phone is ringing a clue might be calling.

Cinder

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I liked Ali- until last night. I knew she was playing the game- but I guess I did not know the extent of her manipulation. Somehow- she needs to go this week. I don't care if Jack wins the POV or Nate- but she needs to go. (Or Erika- don't care- as long as Justin puts her up)

Scandalousplaya

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't Erika will save Jack. Remember she has already voted to evict Jack once. If anything she may try to save Nate.

C1mag

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nate just needs to get that veto himself and stop thinking about what others should or shouldn't do for him. He blew hoh. He should have thought it out. Justin got lucky. Thats how it goes. Ali has a right to play for herself. Why stand opposed to the control of the house if it gives you another week and a chance to win the next hoh so you can make another deal to stay safe when you aren't the hoh after that? Seems to me Ali is at this point controling her own destiny and if no one trusts you ( which they don't in this case) this is how ya gotta play. I say let Nate take care of Nate this week and if he can't do the job then it's time to go. He took the stupid role of one of the Alpha Males which begs to have a target on his back. Now live with it and fix things or pack.

C1mag

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Now here's a sweet little twist... Nate gets the veto and takes himself off ( watch ali kiss his behind if he gets that veto and tries to convince him he'd be safe against jack.. Yeah right! ) she goes up and gets the boot. Now that would be sweet justice for what she pulled on him.

Zachsmom

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
But Erika voted for Jack because she didn't want Dave to go out with a 8-0 vote. She asked Jack if it was okay.

If Ali gets POV and doesn't use it she really is <not a nice person>

(self moderated)

C1mag

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
One last thing on Nate getting that Veto. If he did pull himself off and Ali goes up and out, Nate actually kills two birds with one stone. Ali is probably odds on favorite to win the next hoh. With her gone and Justin un able to take the next hoh it's all Nates for the taking. This is his only way back in this game if he is thinking about surviving. Don't worry about Ali anymore. Think about yourself.

Zachsmom

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
from your lips C2nate...I just want her gone!

C1mag

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL ZM there is a way to get her outta there cause Erika, Nate and Jun would evict her over Jack. Juns vote is pure revenge as would be Nate and Erikas for screwing her over. Ali will work Jun overtime as the swing vote.

Cinder

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ali is pushing it with Jun.

SHe said she didn't know what Justin saw in Dana.

Also she is saying that Nate is being a poor sport(not her words) HELLO- Ali has forgotten how she acted when she was nominated.

C1mag

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Funny thing is Nate is not being a poor sport. It's that ol mindgame again.... create a division and in order to create a division suggest that someone is "upset" Nate and Jack are doing just fine with this.

Gvandeli

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And Ali is looking pretty forlorn...don't know if it's real or an act...hard to tell with her.

C1mag

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
GV I just posted on another thread that Ali is looking pretty pathetic right now. Blatantly kissing up to the three stooges....

C1mag

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I honestly think that even if Jack got taken off the block and replaced by Ali that by weds Ali would be the one going. She has lied to every single person in the house and we know Erika and Jack would evict her and Jun would welcome the chance to get even. So if ya want Ali out this week hope that either Nate or Jack gets that Veto. By sunday they will have figured they have nothing to lose by using it. With Ali out of the game they have an excellent shot at the next hoh.

Gvandeli

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ali's problem is she can't win...no one trusts her now. The 3 stooges have each other; Jun trusts Jeee; Erika has Jack..if Nate's gone...Ali will have no one. She's gonna get really lonely. Dana won't vote for her in the final and Nate won't vote for her in the final. She can't win against anyone left in the house. Nate is the only person who she could possibly beat in the final two.

Cameltoes

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That's the real irony Gvandeli. She used and discarded her only hope in the final 2. I don't feel sorry for Nate though. He got fair warning the night before the POV ceremony.

I think only Erika using the POV would get Ali on the block. If Nate saved himself, I'd expect Erika to be put up and Jack voted out.

Gvandeli

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was just going to ask that...if Erika gets POV, will Justin nominate Ali? Did he promise not to ever put her on the block...as she promised she would never put him on the block? I don't recall him making that same promise...but I may have missed it.

Re: Nate...I agree..his pulling Ali off the block was not pure in intention entirely. He knew he already had a target on his back anyway.

C1mag

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Camel I agree that Nate was not entirely blindsided by Alis crapfest. The night before POV he saw the truth and knew what could happen even though she kepts saying... "I promise that no matter what Justin will be the target" He knew then she wasn't gonna do it and he told her that to her face. So as you say... Ya can't feel sorry for him.

I agree about Erika using the veto but I think she is afraid to bring herself back out as a target if she goes against a promise she made. Besides, her theory is that as long as Jack stays in the game who cares what happens. She knows Nate will go if the nominations stay the same. I guess you are right that they would put up Erika against Jack if Nate uses the veto.