Archive through September 04, 2003
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Where have all the GOOD people gone???:
Archive through September 04, 2003
Moelicious | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:53 am     Is it just me or have all the honest and staightforward people been evicted from the house. With Jee gone, all we have left are two- faced, non likeable and hateful people. Can nice people not win this game? |
C1mag | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:54 am     Well Erika is playing pretty honest. |
Cliotheleo | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:54 am     Nice = boring the good people left about a month and a half ago (note: my definition of "good" is "entertaining, fun and just downright HOT!") |
Moelicious | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:55 am     but look how she turned on Jack. Her "happy dance" made me gag. |
Cliotheleo | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:56 am     Erika didn't turn on Jack. Come on now. |
Moelicious | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:59 am     I miss Dave, Justin, Jack, Michelle ... Just seeing one of the remaining houseguests win the grand prize may be enough to make me skip the finale. Jee was my last hope. |
Gina8642 | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 01:00 am     Erika may be playing slightly nicer in some respects - but I've seen her get right down in there and sling mud as disgusting as any of the others. This season has really been GOOD people-less to me. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 01:31 am     To me Jun and Erika are decent people. Ali and Robert are not decent people. Just my opinion of course. Even decent people aren't GOOD GOOD 24/7. |
Moelicious | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 03:33 am     Erika is least un-likeable of the remaining four. Guess who will be the next to go.....Erika. Everyone in the house is trying to be placed in the final two with someone who they think will NOT get any votes, so that they can win. Which means that Erika is the next person out...mark my words. |
Smokewilliams | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 05:57 am     Moelicious, are you a Sam Roberts fan? |
Justalittlebean | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:10 am     Jee was the last honest person in the house??? I don't think so. This is a game, and your not going to win by being Mr & Ms perfect. If anyone in this house has done the least amount of wheeling and dealing, it's Erica. She's stayed in the background, would listen and keep her mouth shut. She's played a smart game. Jee's downfall came when he got some power. I'm sorry even if this is a game, to take a bribe and have your fellow players on PB&J while you had food, just wasn't right. If my memory is right, Jee said he would have PB&J also for that week. Guess he changed his mind when he got hungry. Kinda sad that out of the entire household, he was the only one to agree to the bribe. What does that tell you? |
Cinapoo | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:36 am     It tells me that he was smart. Kudos for Jee for taking the bribe!!!! In that position, I would have, too. Remember, he didn't know if anyone else took it either so he had to protect his vote for evictees. Everyone acts like PB&J is so horrible. I can think of a lot worse things they could get stuck eating for a week.....matter of fact, how many people in the U.S. are so poor they go to sleep with hungry bellies. They needed to stop whining! |
Tvduck | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:40 am     When Erika is nice, people say she's boring. When she plays the game people say she's mean and disgusting. Ditto Justalittlebean. This is just a game. |
Justalittlebean | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 07:11 am     If Jee is so honorable and always speaks the truth, why didn't he follow thru on his promise to eat PB&J with the rest? Whats the difference between him not keeping his word and the stuff Allison and Jun have done? Does this mean one lie isn't as bad as other lies? I thought it's all the same. The point isn't they had to eat PB&J for a week, the point is he lied about eating it himself. I remember him saying, "he's the force to be reckon with" or something like that. I think the force left him by his own doing. He let the power ruin him. |
Jimmer | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 07:17 am     Are all lies the same – of course not. There is a difference between lying and knowing that you are lying when you are saying it and saying something and then changing your mind at a later time. I’m sure that we all have at times said things that we regretted later, so keeping your word at all costs is not necessarily an admirable quality. So there is a difference. What Jee did was not admirable, but it was not at the same level as deliberately lying to someone’s face. |
Cinapoo | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 07:50 am     Well put Jimmer! |
Crazydog | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 07:54 am     Since when was Jee "honest, straightforward and nice"? I found him intolerable. His arrogance when his group was in control, followed by his complaining and whining when they were not, shows to be that he's only happy when things go his way. I am overjoyed that he is gone. Erika is a good person. And I think that Jun is as well. She never wanted to leave the original alliance but was forced to because Dana insisted on it. |
Crossfire | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 08:04 am     If it were not for him selling out his team during the cage competition, I'd classify him as a valuable and loyal member of his team. |
Laura11103 | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 08:39 am     I was disgusted with Jee for competing and winning the Mcdonalds food challenge, he should've let someone else have it, he's very selfish IMO, and everyone needed that veto but wouldn't condemn their housemates to pbj for anything, but Jee did, to me that was downright selfish and he deserves not to win, he sold his soul. |
Reichenfan8 | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 08:51 am     Am I the only one that thinks all the people in the house have at least some good in them? I know they may come off as despicable sometimes, but I am sure they aren't entirely like this on the outside. I'm sure if I was put in the house and put on camera 24/7, some not so good sides of me would come through. I mean, yeah, they're not the best people BB has ever seen, but I do think theyre all good at some level. With that said, I do miss Justin and Jee and Jack -- three people who I think have been the most loyal in this game. Yeah, Jee put everyone on PB & J and all that other crap, but I don't think one week of selfish behavior can dictate whether or not he's a good or loyal person. I think Jee, Justin, and Jack were all loyal to the people they said they would be loyal too, throughout their entire stay. That is not to say that Amanda, Michelle, and Dave were not loyal people... they just didn't stick around long enough for me to see if they were or not. I would have to disagree with anyone who says that Jee sold his soul because he put the houseguests on PB & J. It's not like he sentenced these people to death. I really think that if any one of the others really thought they were going that week, they would've taken it also. It's just that Jack thought he was safe, as did Erika. |
Ark | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 08:52 am     Oh please, can you imagine the moaning and groaning we'd all be doing if there were a houseful of Michelles left in there. She seemed like a very nice person but boring, boring, boring in this game. Since the POV was tied to the week of PBJ, I'll let Jee slide on that one but what possible reason did he have for winning the food comp? I've liked Jun from the beginning. She has a great sense of humor and she plays the game well. She doesn't say anything snarky about the others that I'm not thinking so maybe that's why I don't think she's a "bad" person. I also think that Erika is a "nice" person. Sure she's done some flipping but it's hard to play this game without flipping every now and then. |
Crossfire | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 08:53 am     Am I the only one that thinks all the people in the house have at least some good in them? Newp, I'm on that bandwagon. |
Puzzled | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 08:53 am     I thought someone said that Jee had had knee surgery and was in mega pain during the cage challenge. If this is true, then it's amazing he lasted as long as he did. Otherwise, it just doesn't make any sense. |
Tmleafs4life | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 09:10 am     Smoke: lol! Thats what I thought too when I first read the thread title. I think Justin was the most "honest" person in the house. I put honest in quotations because that word is really not totally applicable in a game like this. Dave was the best entertainment in the house. So the game slowed down for me quite a while ago. |
Jimmer | Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 09:16 am     With respect to staying in the cage, it’s not like Jee waited 5 minutes and quit. He was in there a long time (I can’t remember how long but it was long). He was certainly in there long enough to convince him that Erica was not going to give in on that challenge. Could he have outlasted her? Not likely. I don’t find him particularly evil for taking the veto either. Yes PB&J is not the greatest, but it is a competition and there are lots of people around the world who would probably love the opportunity to eat PB&J for a week (how about the Survivors?). Winning the McDonald’s food competition was dumb, but again I think he was mostly having fun and blundered his way to victory. I guess he could have just sat it out completely (and he did stall a lot at the end), but he might have won anyway! Remember that all the other people (except Jack) were eliminated because they struck the black dust, not because of anything that Jee did. |
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