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Bastable

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 06:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think being gay is anything to be sad about. But maybe you just mean that she would be willing to abandon him or that she seemed to laugh at him.

Sunni

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 06:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Alison is so smart she is dumb. During the convo with Justin should have open her eyes to the tightness of Jee3. She just severed ties to Nate by that degrading comment then she disrespects the Bible by quoting it for the wrong reasons.

I thought it was especially rude to have Jun read the Psalm as though she would enjoy it. It is a shame when non religious ppl have more respect for the Bible than a supposed believer in the Bible(Nate).
Note to Nate and Ali- "For the love of money is the root of all evil." is about being greedy and willingness to step on anyone for it.

However, BB is a game and just b/c ppl are playing for money does not make them evil. Having money and playing for money is not evil.

Twiggyish

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 06:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nate is blind to Alison's lies.

Bluerose

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 06:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, I am not sad at the idea that Nate might be gay but sad that Ali would even discuss his personal life on tv. It's none of her business. I still like Ali for ruining Dana's chances , but Ali was thoughtless to say stuff about her friend, I just didn't like it.

Bastable

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have to admit, Bluerose, as I sat there watching her, that I suspected for a moment she was saying these things to make Justin dislike Nate. I had a hunch she was doing it as a game move. Which would be unpleasant.

Even more so considering that now, whether it's true or not of if he's ready to deal with it or not, Nate now has to confront this rumor about himself. It's obvious he isn't ready, if it even happens to be true. But now this idea is glued to his name in the public eye because Ali said it on camera. It should be Nate's choice to share that with people, if he ever did. Ali forced a major question mark into Nathan's reputation, which is harsh.

Did she do it as a game move?

Midji

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't understand why CBS showed her comment about Nate being gay, but not about Scott having genital warts. If they wanted to protect Scott's privacy on a personal matter, they should protect all the HG's privacy.

Cricket

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You've got a good point there, Midji.

Grooch

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bastable, I don't think she did it as a game move.

I think she actually does believe he is gay (but she doesn't care if he is), and in the situation she is in (complete stress coupled with complete boredom) she told her biggest BB secret to a person she thinks she can trust the most, in the most private room there is in the house.

I think her cork popped from the pressure and she unfortunetley blabbed.

Seanflynn2003

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The reason may be that in negotiating Scott's peaceable ejection, he extracted a promise that this wouldn't be mentioned
Yes they could just have kicked him out, but it was in all parties interests to make nice

Maris

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Sean and I also dont think it serves anyones interest showing someone actually meltdown a Scott did versus the run of the mill tantrums that are daily faire.

Midji

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good point, Seanflynn!

Karuuna

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I still think that Ali thinks Nate is gay because he hasn't put the big move on her. She simply can't fathom any other reason for a guy not to make moves on her.

It says a heck of a lot about her own issues.

Bluerose

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I had a thought watching all the men on the show tonight. I feel they are jealous of Nathan's looks. Nate isn't just nice looking, he is movie star handsome in my book. Having 4 beautiful daughters, I have watched heart broken as they are treated badly by other women just because they look like they do. It's almost like a curse or being born deformed. People auto- matically see someone like Nate and think he needs to be taken down a peg. This is a trait of human nature I have seen up close and I don't like it. Just some Nathan thoughts.

Bastable

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Even now in the house. Robert in the tub: "I think he may be gay. It's a very real possibility. Jee, go jump in bed with him and see if he gives you a peck."

Then they ask Dana if she has ever slept/had a three-way with another woman. Dana: "I plead the Fifth."

Justin: "This is the kind of thing that makes the show."

Dana: "Not to mention the Internet."

This issue isn't going away. Soon it will be put in front of Nate and it will come to a head. So to speak.

Maris

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Absolutely Karuuna. That is what it is about. Nate is not crawling all over her and she hadn't forgotten about his comment to her regarding the night they had dinner. He ripped into her over being drunk and making a spectacle of herself. Alison doesnt like to hearn anyone, especially a male criticize her.

Wendo

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bastable said, "I have to admit, Bluerose, as I sat there watching her, that I suspected for a moment she was saying these things to make Justin dislike Nate."

Yes, I felt this way Bastable. That she knows Justin very well, knows that he's a homophobe and therefore won't consider an alliance with Nathan, thus keeping Nate loyal to her.

There's no way to know for sure, obviously. Perhaps she does wonder what his sexuality is. But, I don't think CBS should've aired it. IMO, I don't see how it advanced the BB storyline.

Bastable

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"IMO, I don't see how it advanced the BB storyline."

Ah yes... unless CBS is going to embellish upon it, or disprove it, with the next twist...

Karuuna

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it advanced how deceitful and disloyal Ali can be, so it did add to the story line, IMO.

I also don't think it was a game move, I just don't get that Ali is that smart. She's motivated by emotion more than she is by cunning or brilliance.

Grooch

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Karunna, you might be right on the reason why she thinks it.

I still think she didn't do it as a game move.

Snee

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
it's sad that someone's sexual orientation is such an issue.

Twinkie

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Until tonight's show I didn't think I could dislike anyone more than Dana but now Ali holds that spot. I hope Ali is out right behind Dana.

Trinity63

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope that this remark about Nate and his sexuality gets back to Nate. I hope he confronts Ali in a huge way. I hope he reads her the riot act. Because the bottom line:

It doesn't matter if he's gay or not. Someone's sexual orientation should never be an issue.

If he is gay, who the heck is she to out him like that? Not her place.

Ali need her come uppence.

Katlady53

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Karuuna, I agree. I don't think Ali's sharp enough to have used it as a game move.

I can't even imagine how disgusted Nate's family must have been tonight, and I don't blame them. Just another new low level to which a HG has sunk.

Grooch

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bastable, I think the ones in charge of editing BB are extremely cruel this year. Along with trying to "out" Nate, they zeroed right in on June's stomache to emphasize her weight gain. They aired the buzzard crotch/ man troll comments by Jack about Dana. I am sure there are more examples I am fortunetly forgetting.

They are really going for the jugular this season. I guess they are going for ratings otherwise they are out of a job next year.

Maris

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bluerose, I think Nathan needs to be taken down a peg because of his behavior not his looks. I dont think he is all that. Something about his face just creeps me out. His attitude towards gays, his nasty remarks and bullying attitude is why I like to see him squirm. It has nothing to do with his looks because I dont think he is that great looking. I think he and Ali make a very ugly pair..