Is Nathan a metrosexual?
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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Is Nathan a metrosexual?
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Bbfan05

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 10:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Can you even be a metrosexual if you're from Oklahoma?

Sanfranjoshfan

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 10:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Has anyone considered that this male body hair shaving thing has grown just as magazines featuring male models pushing the "idealized" male image have grown?

I tend to see trends like this NOT as something that people just start accepting out of the blue....but rather because Madison Avenue is pushing it. Women weren't starving themselves to death before Madison Avenue started pushing the "ideal" woman (skin and bones) onto the public.

I think it's just the public (both men and women) trying to achieve the idealized "perfection" they see in the movies and in magazines. If all these ads and TV shows just presented hairy men as the ideal, I'd bet this would never have become such a trend.

Just a guess...but it does appear that public opinion on fashion and image is usually shaped more by the designers and advertisers, rather than by personal taste.

Max

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 10:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree, SanFran. However, for me, I've never liked excessive hair on a man. I remember when Playgirl first came out with the centerfold of Burt Reynolds and I thought, "Ugh! I don't want a man to be as hairy as the bearskin rug he's laying on!" :)

So part of it is personal preference, but the over the top shaving stuff (some guys now seem to be more obsessed with shaving than women are) is definitely a Madison Avenue concoction, IMHO.

Same thing with uber-skinny women. If you follow fashion trends historically, the idealized body image has changed a lot over the years. Used to be that a few curves (and even some rolls) were considered sexy, representing the fertility factor the female form brings to the party. Then the advertising world decided that Twiggy was hip and things started changing (actually probably started before her, but she's a landmark point in the scheme of things).

Gemma120in2002

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 10:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
When I heard the term 'Metrosexual' for the first time, I thought it was someone who couldn't have sex unless he or she was on the subway! Or that he or she was aroused by urban areas.

Metrosexual is just another word for fop.

Bohawkins

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 10:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
When I first came stateside I found it very strange to see women with the shaved legs and underarms. Even today, in Ireland you still see women with the natural beauty, and if you are not preconditioned (as SanFran says, by Madison Avenue's dictates) then you will totally accept body hair on a woman as beautiful. Formerly, a gal would have been considered a bit of a scrubber if she were to shave her legs and underarms.

Ireland, like the rest of Europe is succumbing to the cultural dictates of the Yank culture and more and more women are denuding themselves. I still find something quite lusty and lash about a natural girl although they are almost all culchies nowadays. Now, I'm not saying culchie gals are slappers, just lusty and still very sexy to me.

Sanfranjoshfan

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 11:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What the heck are you saying Bohawkins?

Can you define these words?:

scrubber
culchie
slapper

:)

Grooch

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 11:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
scrubber = low class girl
culchie = country girl
slapper = ho

Am I close, Bo?

Bohawkins

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 11:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry, I was actually on a phone call to Dublin while I was typing that post and I just slipped back into the jargon. It is very easy to forget that some expressions are so regional. My friends in Ireland accuse me of speaking a foreign language now and it takes about five minutes on the phone before I fall back into the proper phrases.

Culchie is a someone from the country as opposed to the city (like Nathan would be a culchie). It was inadvertantly very apropos for the "metro" sexual thread.

A scrubber is a gal of loose morals and a slapper is the same, but perhaps a degree beyond. I thought that slapper is common here, I use it now and then to describe some women and no one ever corrects me.

Sanfranjoshfan

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 11:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for the foreign language lesson, Bo! :)

Molz

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 11:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
sanfran...exactly what i was thinking.
what the....?
thanks for the laugh.

Squaredsc

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 12:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
bo knows languages.

Justareader

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 12:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I like bo!!! (my maiden name was Irish even tho my mom is a full scot)!!

Costacat

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 04:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
A very special bellini for Squared, who goes where Costacat dares not!

Beruthiel

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 04:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My maiden name AND my married name are both Irish, and I like hair on a man!
I guess I'm just a dyed-in-the-wool Briton, LOL!

Twiggyish

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 04:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I belong to a Scottish email group and we have discussions about American and Scottish slang.

Squaredsc

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 05:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
thx costa i needed that.

Costacat

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 05:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I drink Scotch. Does that count?

Ocean_Islands

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've never even heard of anyone trimming hair on forearms, so Nathan has shown me something (probably something I'd rather not know). I am a bit leery of any dude who shaves anything below the neck; trimming, ok, but shaving, I don't think so.

And BoH why don't you just come out and say you like hairy underarms on women? I don't think the world will come to an end.

Costacat

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
In defense of some of the men I've known (and oh, the men I've known... <grin>)... seriously, many athletic men do shave arms/legs/chest for reasons that body hair interferes or just feels weird when active in sports. Bicyclists shave the hair on their legs (that wind thing). Swimmers shave everything everywhere (to reduce friction in water although I think you'd have to be furry like a bear to really lose speed in the water and then you'd be a bear so who cares cause you'd be the biggest).

I have to admit, though, that most body hair is fine with me as long as it's on the front part of the body. It's that rear view that scares the heck outta me sometimes!

Nathalia

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OMG..Larry King just asked Ryan Seacrest if he was a metrosexual!!!

Twiggyish

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It would bother me to have a vain man. I like the rugged Norm (New Yankee Workshop) type guys of this world. They wear their toolbelts well. (Hair and all)

Bonnyswan

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 06:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
OMG Twiggy...I LOVE Norm...whats greater than a guy who can built a sailboat in a few hours!!!(And the LL Bean flannels dont hurt either...hehe)