Jagger | Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 09:59 am     I think the idea of putting 2 from the Elite 8 was a good move on her part, as stated by others they were not including her in any of their strategy meetings, not telling her how to vote, even when she asked. They wanted her out of the house. I also think that if one of the E8 wins HOH this week they will not boot her, I think they will try to convince her to return to their side against the X's. I do think however that the 2 she put up didn't make much sence, she wanted Ali out, the only way she could have assured that was if she would also have nominated Nate to begin with. Because of this poor judgement we will probably end up losing Dave. |
Spunky | Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 09:59 am     Maris, is that all he lied about it?? come on Nate, you gotta do better than that!! The others are beating you to it... Go lie some more!! |
Deb833 | Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 10:07 am     I like the fact that Dana put two of the elite up, but she should have put Nate up, rather then Jack. The way I see it, she had no choice. The elite wanted her gone and had they won HOH she would have been. I love that she turned the tables on them. |
Chy | Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 10:30 am     I also thought nom'ing two from the O8 was the only option for Dana. But she would've made better point if she had either put Nate+Ali or Jack+Dave to begin with. Just opinion from another BB fan who can't stand Dana but recognizes a good move. |
Spunky | Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 10:33 am     Deb, that's the mistake Dana admitted of making and yet needs to blame it on someone else... it's really quite natural to feel that way for some folks who can't accept failure. |
Katlady53 | Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 10:37 am     I agree, Chy. Dana's best move would have been to nom Nat+Ali or Jack+Dave or perhaps even Erika. |
Monkhead | Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 10:40 am     Deb that's my point. Although we cant stand her and don't want her to win, she's got balls and made an outstanding (if not unbelievable) move!!:-) |
Maris | Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 10:42 am     He has had other lies. He told Jun he wanted he wanted to go to the end with her. He told Jee that he wante him in his alliance and then put him up. He told Robert there was no plan to get rid of the exes and it was a lie, the only plan was to get rid of Dana. Trust me the bible boy has lied. He told Jack, David and Erika they were in their alliance when he and ALi said, they would bring them in just for the votes and get rid of them as soon as they could. He told michele she wasnt leaving. |
Monkhead | Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 10:42 am     Tell me why it would have been better for Dana to put up Ali + Nate or Jack & Dave???????????? |
Maris | Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 10:50 am     I dont think it made a difference whether it was Ali/Nate or Jack/Dave. She breaks up one group and makes it weaker. For herself personally, she felt that getting rid of Alison would be better because Alison hated her guts and was determined to get rid of her. She knew that the others, while they wanted her gone would play the game and suffer her presence if it suited their purposes. Ali would not. She should have originally put up Nate and Ali. Her original nomination was a dumb move. I don't know why these people havent figured out after how many years that pawns never work. |
Cliotheleo | Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 10:53 am     Maris and what makes it even more sad is that Dana doesn't have the excuse that other HGs have of not being followers of the show. She said just the other night (before she had to put Dave on the block I believe) that "pawns never work." Well DA-HUH! Dana!!! But she would tell you that Jack wasn't a decoy. (Man I wish they'd use the right word!) He was ......... but she'd tell you he wasn't. |
Maris | Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 10:56 am     She is right Jack was not a decoy. Jack was a STUPID move. |
Cliotheleo | Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 10:57 am     LOL! But she'd say that Nathan made her do THAT too! |
Ocean_Islands | Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 11:14 am     Sorry, but Dana is a woman and does not have balls. |
Bbfanatic | Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 11:17 am     i think bb needs a transvestite on the show. dave would have really been in for a shocker. |
Maris | Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 11:18 am     Chutzpah? Is that better? |
Kalekona | Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 11:34 am     Jack wasn't a pawn/decoy it was a smart move either way she wins and weakens not only the main allience but one of the sub alliences plus she split the sub allience votes. The problem was this, who would have thought Nate would win veto and actually use it putting a bigger target on himself? and 2 everyone thought without Ali Nate could be flipped. Dana said she let his blue eyes get to and that would never happen again. A pawn/decoy would have been someone she didn't want to go. |
Cliotheleo | Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 11:37 am     Well, she clearly wanted Ali to go more and whenever you put one person on the block that you want to go significantly more than the other ....... the other is a decoy in my book. She said before she did it that she COULD put two strong players on the block in Nate and Ali but she didn't do it. And for that she owes me a box of kleexex (because of all the cryin I'm gonna do over Dave tonight.)  |
Maris | Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 11:42 am     Lol Clio, well just think as Erika said, when he leaves the house all those agents will be clammering to get to him first. |
Meggieprice | Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 11:50 am     I would like to know why June and Dana blame the betrayal with Michelle on the others when they could have completely changed the outcome if they had both voted to keep her. It bugs me the way they rewrite history to suit their current alliance. Back on topic- I have to admit Dana's decision to switch when she did took a lot of guts even if it was based on wanting to hang out with the stooges. It drew the lines early in the game. Unfortunately for Jun it made her step to one side or another too early in the game too. And most unfortunately of all, this early in the game, the mob mentality has the house truly divided and I for one really hate seeing them so segregated. Katlady- I turned 50 on June 25th and I am in the prime of life. Celebrate!!! |
Maris | Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 11:55 am     Dana was told by Nathan if she did not vote Michelle out she would be on the block next. Dana was also not told until one hour before the vote that they were changing from Erika to Michelle. Dana had no choice. Jun didnt want to reveal her alliance to Dana and Jee so she went with the group. Should she have voted against Erika, would it have made a difference? nope. |
Cliotheleo | Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 11:58 am     <<<<<well just think as Erika said, when he leaves the house all those agents will be clammering to get to him first.>>>> If ONLY that were going to be the case Maris ....... if only.  |
Kalekona | Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 01:02 pm     clio- you have to put two people up every week. there is always one you want to go more, that is not a decoy/pawn that is just how the game is played. |
Maris | Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 01:05 pm     Kale I think he was a decoy because she put up the weakest player in that group. He was the one person she figured nobody would vote out. While it works in terms of either one going, the idea was Alison would be guaranteed eviction because she was up against Jack. |
Monkhead | Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 01:14 pm     Yep, right, MARIS! |