Who should Jack & Erika want with them in the end?
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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Who should Jack & Erika want with them in the end?

Jpgramma

Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 10:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
We've all heard/read Erika and Jack say that they want to drag Ally along with them to the end, because they think they could win against her in the final vote.

How I wish we could get them to wake up and smell the coffee!!

Not only is Ally a far greater risk to win the final HOH comp than June would be, their chances at winning the final vote against June are so much better! This doesn't even take into account that as untrustworthy as June is, she's nearly as much of a snake as the despicable, attention-seeking Ally.

While I'd like to think the final vote would be between Jack and Erika, if indeed it was between one of them and either June or Ally, they'd be much better off with June.

Erika or Jack vs Ally :

Nate - would vote for Ally
Justin - would vote for Ally

Jack/Erika - would obviously have the other's vote.
June - would NOT vote for Ally
Dana - might be swayed by Justin to give Ally a vote, but I kind of doubt it.

Gee and Robt? unknown at this point, but could be swayed by Justin to give ally their votes.

result: a crap shoot

compared to:

Erika or Jack vs June:

Nate - would vote for Erika/Jack
Erika/Jack - would obviously vote for the one another.
Ally - wouldn't vote for June, would vote for Jk/E
Justin - admires the way Jk/E play, has stated that he doesn't think June should win.
Robt - has stated that he'd even vote for Erika over June.

Gee - would probably vote for June
Dana - despite goodbye that June left her, would probably vote for June.

end result - Jack or Erika would win over June.

Mademoiselle, if you're reading this would you please start sending Jack some urgent mental message along these lines?

Mizinvanccouver

Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 10:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm thinking that it would be best to have Robert with Jack and Erika at the end.

Robert isn't a favorite in the house so I think either could beat him.

Csnog

Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 11:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Justin nor Nate will vote for Allie to win if she is with Jack or Erika in the final 2.

Justin would have been in an alliance with Erika and Jack if not for the original 8 against the X's.

Nate knows that Allie was his downfall and that she betrayed him.

Ministryoftruth

Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 11:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Robert would be good to take to the end with Jack and Erika because we know that there will be an endurance contest for the last HOH and Robert did not last long in the cages. Robert might be their best bet to be the final two.

Zachsmom

Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 11:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Justin would vote for Erika or Jack..he appreciates the way they are playing.

Jee would also vote for Erika or Jack because he too admires the way they are playing the game.

Nate would vote for Erika or Jack because they had held to their alliance with him. Ali screwed him over big time and Jun wasn't a favorite of his.

I think if Erika or Jack is in the final 2 with either Jun or Ali Erika or Jack will win.

If they are the final two I have no clue who would win..and I wouldn't care I'd be happy with the results.

Wendo

Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 11:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, assuming Jack and Erika can continue together (highly unlikely since Jack isn't strong at competitions; evidenced by his performance in last nights POV), dragging Ali along would only benefit Jack for sure. There's no doubt in my mind that Jack would beat Ali and he would get Justin and Nate's vote. They both respect Jack.

Erika, on the other hand, would be harder to predict. Although, one never knows. But I doubt Rob would vote for her to win.

Anyway, if Robert is in the final two, he definitely would get his Jee3 boys votes, they've promised each other that. Probably Dana's. Jun's, that's a question.

Jun will likely be the deciding vote if she is not one of the final two.

Sherbabe

Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 11:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't even want Robt to win $500,000. Out now, I say.

Lancecrossfire

Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 11:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think they should have the mind set to take each other to the end--only think about who if either Jack or Erika get booted. I think if you go into it believing only one of you will make it to the end, it's more likely to happen.

Jpgramma

Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 11:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Wendo, that Robt would be iffier in a final vote against Erika or Jack.

Dana, Justin, Gee would def. give Robt. a win vote.

Nate and E/Jk would give E/J the win.

Ally and June are more unknown. Both would have attitudes against Erika/Jack for knocking them off in favor of Robert.


I really DO think that Ally sees herself more alligned with G3 than with E/J. We hear her mumbling to herslf/camers that "Jack has to go".

I'm hoping that Jack realizes how crucial it is that he wins this next HOH. Other than June (who might also put Jack up), I think it's pretty certain that any of the others would be shooting for Jack next, including their dear Ally.

Perhaps the twist will be that starting this week, the incumbant HOH can start competing for consecutive HOH positions, which would be good thing. I just hope that Jack and erika realize sooner, rather than later, that Ally is NOT on their side at all.

Ministryoftruth

Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 11:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Good point Lance. That's why I think they should take as the third player the one they can beat easily in the endurance contest . . . Robert.

Sbw

Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 11:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If they take Ali to the end on an endurance competition they deserve to lose. Assuming Justin goes this time, she would be the best performer on an endurance competition by far. I think Robert and June would be least likely to win.

Cricket

Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 11:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It's hard to say. It depends on if it's Jack or Erika in the final two. If it's both of them, Jack would probably win because he won the respect of some of the Stooges.

If any of the Stooges make it to the final, they win. They've got the votes, so to take even Robert with them would be very iffy for J & E. I think they should take Jun, just to p**s Ali off, lol.

Lancecrossfire

Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 11:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Jack would like to take Jee as the third. He hasn't done all that great in most of the contests, and gets most of his strength from Justin. The longer Justin is around, the weaker Jee will be in the contests--but I think Jack respects him for his loyalty in general, and his approach to the game.

I think Jack would secretly like to have Justin as the third because Jack is someone how believes that to be a true winner, you have to beat the best--and he sees Justin as "the man to beat".

Erika on the other hand is someone who would want to win the easiest way possible. Yet see also wants to get along with who she is with--and I think she likes Ali in that respect better than Jun--Ali plays the little sis thing very well--and Erika loves that.

Yet Ali would give Erika a much tougher run in most of the competitions. I give Ali and Jun about the smae grade on the shrudeness abilities--they both can be that way and do it quite well. Both play both sides well, and can adapt to wht the other power side wants (kissing up basically).

Look for Jack and Erika to disagree on a couple of points if it comes down to this.