Bbwannab | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 12:11 am     Jack just took a dive, just told the Jee3 that he will accept a nomination, if they put him up. I think he's up to another one of his mind games. Time will tell |
Closetfan | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 12:16 am     I disagree. |
Lurknomore | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 12:36 am     "just told the Jee3 that he will accept a nomination," Like he has a choice. I think he's trying to be good old Jack and have them respect him more and target others first. He really went down in my book for blowing that HoH...if you want something there is a time and place to fight for it and this was do or die IMHO. |
Maris | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 12:40 am     even dumber move -- He told Erika if he gets the POV he wont use it. he doesnt want her to go up. HELLO JACK??? DOES THE NAME MARCELLAS RING A BELL? I hope Julie Chin kept that rolled up newspaper. |
Cameltoes | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 12:41 am     LOL Maris. What is it with Erika and getting these guys sacrificing themselves for her? hmmmm! |
Maris | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 12:43 am     Silicone |
Cameltoes | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 12:45 am     LOL! <Cameltoes adds "Get Implants" to her list of things to do before applying to be on BB> |
Bbwannab | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 12:46 am     Maybe he relized he's not going to win, and cause of his aliance with Nathen, he's a target and WILL go up on the block. So why not accept defeat gracefully and have a really good time with what you have left |
Kennyb | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 03:45 am     He's just trying to get in with them so G3 plus Jun/Erika will vote Nate out.........it's his only play if that is who their planning on putting up anyway. |
Casey | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 04:59 am     I don't think Jack is changing sides.....YET! LOL!! I think after what Justin told him last night.... "just - we are not gunning after you - it is unfortunate that 2 have to be put up" ...he just feels confident that J3 are really gunning for Nate and he won't be voted off. So why use the veto when he knows they'll just put Erika up is he does. |
Squaredsc | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:40 am     rofl cameltoes. |
Jagger | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:45 am     I agree Casey, Jack has no reason to use the veto as long as Nate is still on the block. Most of the house would rather get rid of Nate over Jack. However if Nate wins POV I think Jack's goose is cooked, or is it his buzzard that is cooked. He will be able to go and enjoy himself with Dana for a week. |
Justareader | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:07 am     casey - good assessment of the situation. I think that Jack knows that is is far enough in the game that his "alliance" with nate is expendible and is more allied with erika and knows she will go up with him and he would rather not rock that boat yet. He was just being funny with the boys in HOH cause he kind of knew that it would be him and nate to be nommed....and it gained him a lot of respect from the guys as they repeatedly said that Jack was so funny about that and they respected him.... |
Kaili | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:14 am     I sure wouldn't be that confidant this round if I were Jack- this week will be one where it would be too easy for the pawn to go. A lot of people know Jack is smart and don't want him to slide by- he already made it through one nomination. I know Jack isn't the Will or Amy of the group taht can last being nominated over and over and over again. Jun could easily choose to evict him and possibly convince the guys to do so as well (We have the numbers now- we can always get rid of Nate later). |
Jpgramma | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:15 am     While I don't believe Jack did throw the HOH comp, I DO believe he'll throw the POV challenge (unless he thinks Nate can/will win it). I so wish Erika hadn't made that promise about not using the POV. That was their only chance. If she pulled Jack off and Justin replaced him with Ally, there's always the possibility that June could have been persueded to vote with E & J to boot Ally instead of Nate. They would have had the 3 votes to J3's 2 votes and Nate would still be in J&E courts to help with the physical comps. |
Casey | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:41 am     Jpgramma......you are so right!! I had worked it out in my head that no matter if J/E/N won POV, 2 of them would still end up on the block. But, as you said, if Erika wins POV, she could take one of them off and Justin would have to nominate Jun or Ali to replace them. I think he would honestly want to keep his promise to not put Ali up, so I'm not sure what he'd do if that happened. However, in the end, I'm afraid all this means is that Erika won't even try to win POV. |
Dke1212 | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:52 am     Do you really think Erika would follow through on her promise not to use the veto if she really wanted to? She has promised things before but always says she'll break the promise. |
Jpgramma | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:52 am     Casey, last night Justin said (in front of ally I think) that if Erika took Jack off he'd have to put up Ally. Problem is, Erika made that promise she wouldn't use the veto in the HOH room last night. I'd like to think she'll remember it's a GAME and she's allwoed to break promises just as many of them already have. |
What555456 | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:53 am     Why is Jack even talking about what he would do with the veto? It is not like he is going to try to win it. And Erica won't try either. So who cares what she says about using it? Jack and Nate will go up. Jack will be eliminated. |
Jpgramma | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 08:07 am     Just found the bit from last night's livefeeds where Justin said he'd replace Jack with Ally if Erika won veto.. from Aremid's 9:56PM post: "... Jus - if ERica gets it and uses the veto then I have to put Ali up Rob - eRica can be persuaded Jus - I wouldn't want her out anyway, I want Nate out first, might as well put up Jack, Ali ..last week so f it...Next week go after Ali or Erica ..." So..having found the post, I'm no longer sure that Ally was present during that conversation, but it seems that June was. Given June's presence, it's possible that Justin said Ally just because June was there. I DO think though that Jee amd Robt could persuade Justin to have the alternate be Ally rather than Jun. 1. Ally is not to be trusted. 2. June's the cook 3. Jee's secret alliance with June would have him puuling hard for Ally as alternate. |
Chy | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 08:24 am     Well, what the heck! Erika won't even come close to winning POV. Just like any other comp!Although the senerio Jp talked about above, would have been their only chance. Once the O?(what's the real#? Dana & Jun was never really there, Ali...?) alliance forced Justine to put Ali on the block, all hell may break! Jun could've decided that Ali's act of chewing Justine's ears is unhealthy for Jun. Justine might wake up one day feeling like to revenge for his "friend" Dana. If only J+E+N crew would escape this eviction, and Nate could grab the HOH.....Well, never mind, that's why they all want to get rid of Nate. Back to the topic: At this point, I don't think Jack would bother to switch side. What good couls come out of it? He's either leaving after nate or after Erika. Is that a grete big difference? PS: didn't know this sat here for a long while, this was after Casey's 7:38 post. |
Chy | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 08:33 am     That LFP(in Jp's 8:04 post) confirmed the priority of Justin. J3 first-I assume each of them has his own order- Jun is #4, Ali is #5 which means next offering.... |
Outlawout | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 08:40 am     OH GOD!! Jagger--I haven't allowed it to dawn on me that if Jack is evicted he has to spend a week alone with the <M>, who ought to be a COMPLETE mess after being alone with her own obsessive little thoughts for a week. I hope the FBI trained him in tactics for resisting cruel and unusual punishment. I realize this is going to be a tough fate for whoever goes, but it seems especially heinous for Jack. The others (except maybe Jun) can't stop thinking about themselves long enough to really be bothered by Dana. In order for someone to get under your skin, you've gotta be more than skin deep. |