Is Jack Really That Smart?
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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Is Jack Really That Smart?
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Lurknomore

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 12:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris...didn't I say that in my first post? He IS failing because IMHO he hasn't adapted his pre-set gameplan coming in the house when he saw his who he had to work with.

And he has been very friendly with everyone in the house. What he has failed to do is try to cut some deals, like Nate is doing now.

Bonnyswan

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 12:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wanted to quickly add also that there are many different forms of "intelligence" my boyfriend is a prime example....he is a total genius but is a social idiot...maybe Jacks intelligence just isnt best suited for a game like this.

Maris

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 12:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes absolutely and he failed to see what I have been saying all along, last years strategy never works. He aligned with the wrong people. It was like all the HGs when they first came into the house and were scrambling for beds. You dont stay with the bed you picked on the first night, you got to move around.

Earthmother

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 12:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Questioning anyone's intelligence at this point is ridiculous...if they are still in the game they are doing something right. Some of the smartest people who have been on BB (IQ) have not won the game so what good were the smarts. This game does not require genius..it requires some luck, the ability to win competitions when necessary, throw competitions when necessary, and fly under the radar when necessary.

Maris

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 01:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Will Had smarts!!! He is the bar by which all other Houseguests are measured against.

Xarph

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 01:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
" Questioning anyone's intelligence at this point is ridiculous.."

So very true, but it is amusing to read these <dh> ponderings.

Cricket

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 01:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought he was smart, but for him and Erika to say today that they are being wise to lay low and stay out of the way just doesn't sound smart.

They are going to lay low right out the door. Nothing smart about that.

Maris

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 01:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes it is amusing Xarph, but read the ponderings two weeks ago about how smart Jack was and how he was using his FBI skills to stay under the radar. Nothing wrong with questioning that assessment now.

Xarph

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 02:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I did not say the <dh> ponderings were wrong. I just agreed with someone else that they were ridiculous and therefor amusing.

Saturday Night Live is ridiculous and amusing but it is not wrong.

Demsome

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 02:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack may well be smart but he comes off as a dummy to millions of people, as well as clumsy and non coordinated. So how smart is that? Alot to live down when he leaves.

Bonnyswan

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 02:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I dont think he has come across that bad. I think making bathing attire out of produce is far worse in the "things to live down when I get out of here" catergory.

Spear

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 02:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I doubt that Jack comes off as a dummy to "millions" of people. Considering he currently has the highest rating in CBS' poll, I also doubt that he would have a lot to live down if he had to leave the house right now.

Demsome

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 03:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What I mean about him appearing as a dummy is things like him missing the easy question last night for HOH. Sure some people may think (or even know from reading the posts) that he threw it but alot of people just think hes stupid. Also the times he falls or is clumsy during compititions. Don't get me wrong I really like him and I personally think there is a method behind his madness. But alot people i know think otherwise.

Nexell2

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 03:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know if Jack is that smart but his observation of the other HG's is brilliant. I love Jack, he has many fans.

Omegabubbles

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 03:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LoL

Costacat

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 04:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't have an opinion on whether Jack is "smart" or not. Jack *may be* smarter than everyone else in the house but that's irrelevant because I think that Jack was expected to fill the "smart" role by BB's producers.

I don't think Jack has played this game particularly well. He has made some spectacularly stupid moves (like trying to convince Dana to put up Justin when she was HOH).

I also don't believe that he intentionally threw the HOH competition yesterday. I think that was another accidentally (and spectacularly) stupid move on his part. (Traditionally, don't most of the HGs usually get the first of these types of questions right anyways? Everyone ELSE got it right!)

I think there is a perception that Jack is smart because of his age and career. I think BB has fostered that perception, based on some of his diary room comments (did they ask anyone else to put a "label" on all the other HGs?).

And then there is smart and there is SMART!!! Real smarts incorporates a balance of intellect and common sense.

All of the above is my opinion. YMMV.

C1mag

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 05:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack is pretty good at analyzing things but if you're not a talker and all you've got is time I would hope your brain would be doing something besides singing "a hundred bottles of beer on the wall." So does his analyzing make him a smart guy? I don't know. I think a kid could figure out real fast who the targets should be and a kid could also count the number of votes you would need to get what you want, but the smart cookie is the one who gets the job done. Seems to me Jack isn't getting the job done.

Xarph

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Speaking of smart...

Do you know how to keep an idiot in suspense?
Press HERE

Cinder

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Xarph- even though I knew your feelings about this thread- I HAD to click it. LOL
Xarph is purdy smart.

Twiggyish

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think he has failed at anything. He's a smart man.

Boberg

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 07:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack being the "Mole" was mentioned again last night..See my post in this thread 8/7 @ 11:32 We are still waiting for that Big Twist that Julie mentioned a couple of weeks ago!

Corriecat

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 07:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm not so sure how well Jack is playing the game. Don't the older guys generally last a little while because they aren't seen as an immediate threat and can go at any time? Gerry and George both lasted a while but weren't great players. I will be interested in seeing how well Jack plays in the coming weeks.