Wgm | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 03:16 pm     If Jee wants to get further into the game then he will have to sacarfice Rob. I think that he will put Robert and Erika up. Jack will win POV, saves Erika and Jee will put either Alison or Jun up. |
Whozit | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 03:40 pm     If jee wants to break up/get rid of one them) the Erika and Jack alliance- shouldn't he nominate both Erika and Jack?--Because isn't the person who wins POV safe from being nominated himself/herself ? If so- If Jee nominates only Erika OR Jack- the other one could win POV, save the one nominated and then neither Erika nor Jack would be able to be nominated? |
Unbiased | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 03:54 pm     I'm telling you, Jack is gone this week. They all say it's Erika, but that's just what they tell each other. The girls want Jack out. Jee's the only one who's best interest is to keep Jack, and guess what... he ain't voting. I can't see TWO of the voters (a/j/r) passing up this golden opportunity to ditch the most likable person in the game. Plus I still think R/E have a secret deal... not for nominations, but for safety only. Rob's just playing Jee, trying to keep him on his side as long as possible before he (Jee) retreats completely into Jun land for the endgame. |
Cinder | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 03:57 pm     I agree with you Unbiased- but is Robert capable of keeping a "secret deal" If he is I give him credit- He seems to be a follwer and I think he will do what Jee tells him to do. It only takes two votes to evict Jack though. I don't want either to leave, but I this point- I think I might be leaning towards Erika. |
C1mag | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 04:12 pm     I am so into the belief that Jack is toast this week as well. Those girls will never let Robert tell them how to vote. I said last night before I went to bed. This week is going to be shades of week 2 when Robert demanded that Erika be the one going and just like week 2 they will smile and in the end not give him what he wanted. |
Texasdeb | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 04:23 pm     I like Jack & Erika equally but, if one of them ends up having to go, Jack should go because he doesn't seem to be any good at any of the challenges and wouldn't last much longer without Erika. Also, It's better for Jee2 to get Jack out ASAP because I don't think there is a single person left who could win against him in final 2. |
Unbiased | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 04:24 pm     Excactly... all it takes is 2 votes. There are multiple ways Erika could stay safe. 1. She could use her femininity to sway the girls 2. The girls may decide on their own that Jack must go, becaues he is completely unbeatable in the endgame. 3. Always a possibility of Rob keeping Erika at the last minute for safety, as the public safety he gets from Jee is certainly insufficient. Everyone else has a secret ally but Rob, unless he ousts Jack. If he's smart, he'll see it. Even better for Rob's safety if he's actually able to VOTE Erika out himself, if he can somehow figure out for certain that the girls will get rid of Jack. Then he keeps full alliegance to Jee, and preserves his lifeline to Erika..... provided he can convince her he did it on purpose... |
Stro27 | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 04:33 pm     Jack is not that unbeatable in the end. Jee would beat Jack in the end. He would have Dana, Justin, Jun, and Robert's vote. Erika could as well. |
Unbiased | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 04:39 pm     Yes, but Jee isn't voting. Neither of the 2 voting girls can beat Jack. |
Sbw | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 04:39 pm     Poor Jee. There are a lot of scenarios where the person he wants to go may not leave the house. That poor guy, who is now putting his life on the line for the SECOND time for the house, still may not get the HG he wants out the door. |
Cinder | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 04:44 pm     LOL Sbw. |
Stro27 | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 04:46 pm     I don't think their chances of beating Erika in the end are any better than against Jack. And Jee may not be voting, but he does have some influence over Jun. |
Texasdeb | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 04:46 pm     Oh gosh no - I can't take another wk of Jee's life (in his own mind) on the line! |
C1mag | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 04:47 pm     It's real simple. The question the 2 girls voting would ask themselves would be... "Who benefits me by staying in the game? jack or erika? Answer... Erika. She has a much better chance at the contests. If she says that you are safe if she gets the next hoh then she means it cause she can win. If Jack was throwing them he threw them a bit well and has clearly shown he is not an asset to anyone other than a vote or as a needed pawn when nominating a target. Those days are coming to an end. You need someone who will play the game hard for not only themselves but will play it with you. Erika would easily align with Jun and Ali and target the guys first for pulling this crap on her as the target. This works real well for both Jun and Ali because Erika gives them complete clearance for two weeks. Jack serves no purpose other than if he stays the females would be down to two and when going for the next hoh it would be only two girls against Rob for the hoh. Put Erika in the mix and the odds are so in the females favor of getting the next hoh because it would be 3 against one. Another reason to keep Erika and boot Jack now. Jack will be eliminated. It's the best move for both Ali and Jun. He can't promise them anything because he doesn't win anything. Get rid of him now to avoid meeting him in the finals knowing the "nice guy" may be tough to beat for the larger money. Obvious thought... NO ONE tells Ali how to play the game and especially not the dude that she says fidgets and makes her nervous. She isn't going to cator to him and after Jun clearly sees that Rob is gonna be a problem in having Jee with her she will also not be told how to vote. She's a smart player and she boots with her best interest in mind. She also can manipulate the two females into targetintg Robert over Jee if they get the next hoh. |
Countrymeadow | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 04:49 pm     Oh but remember, Jee and Robert said that in the history of BB, they'll go down as being remembered for playing the game the BEST anyone has played it. Uh.........what? Anyone remember Will? LOL! |
C1mag | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 04:53 pm     Played the best huh? couldn't stay in the cage when they needed too. Would have been toast weeks ago had Dana not played the "me" card. They didn't even ask her to save them. In fact Rob told her to please nominate him cause he couldn't stand it there. Uh yeah they played this game the best. They have never tried. Jee got lucky with a ball getting clost to a hole. Phew he is the master of BB along with Rob who gives up everytime one of his buds isn't in control of the hoh. |
Sbw | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 04:57 pm     In reality it will be luckiest, not the best for those 2. |
Unbiased | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 05:01 pm     c1, excellent points for Jack to leave... I agree. |
Unbiased | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 05:04 pm     I don't know, though, when Rob said that, he could have just been getting those guys pumped up. It just so happens that the world could see that comment, but I'm not sure if he really believes that it was all skill. I'm sure he knows the degree of luck involved with the whole Dana incident. Remember, the only place you can truly trust the HGs comments is in the DR, and even then it's not always clear. He was certainly telling Jee and Justin what they wanted to hear to be convinced of each other's alliegence at that point in the game. |
Charvie | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 05:07 pm     I heard Robert is trying to convince Jee to go in a different direction with the nominations. If so I have been trying to figure out why? What is his motivation? |
C1mag | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 05:13 pm     I haven't heard anything Charvie. The only other direction Rob would want is to target Jun. Now that would be too funny if he talked Jee into putting up Jun and Erika. Jun would be gone unless the veto was used. I know who Robert wants gone. All the women in the house. He hates them all. |
Lisad | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 05:17 pm     I just want Ali to be put up & evicted. Does Rob hate Ali more than Jun this week by chance? Though I don't think he or anyone can sway Jee. Remember how he was as HOH last time? No one could convince/sway him of anything. |
Saggkl | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 05:27 pm     I hope everyone is right that if Erica and Jack are put up Jack leaves. I liked him until it became clear either he was throwing the HOH and POV's or he just can't win anything. He really hasn't done anything to deserve to go to the finish. Sorry. On purpose or unavoidabley, he let Erica down. And Rob hates June more than Allie. Also didn't he egg Dave on to put a target on his back? |
Seanflynn2003 | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 05:34 pm     Robert's dislike of women is pathological almost, but he dislike's Jun more than Allison because he can't control her, she is smarter than he is, and doesn't play the flirting game with him. |
Devon | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 05:36 pm     I think it is a good posibility that Jee will put up Allie. She is a lot more competitive in the contests then Jack or Erika. |