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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: 8/6 HOH Competition: Archive through August 06, 2003

Rob_Robe

Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 12:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Guess it is going to be a mind game of QUORIDOR

The Game

http://www.daimi.au.dk/~plesner/programs/quoridor.php

The Rules

http://www.gigamic.com/regles/anglais/rquoridore.htm

Seanflynn2003

Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 12:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is this something that can be done in 2 minutes like most live HoH games?
Or to be completed after the live show is over?

Maris

Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 12:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe it is a round robin type of game and there is no HOH this week. Maybe this weeks nominations will be audience driven. Top two getting votes are nominees. Take it out of their hands. Announce the twist live as they announce the HOH game.

Kaili

Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 12:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Do they still think they're playing against BBUK? I think it would be funny if they're all sitting around telling eachother their game strategies and how they'll play then they end up playing against eachother.

Crazydog

Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 12:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think this Quoridor came can be done live. And it's too early to have one of those endurance type HoHs, like Will/Monica/Nicole on the Pee Bed or Lisa/Danielle/Jason in the rain. It's probably for a luxury challenge.

Cinder

Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 12:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I like Maris's idea. For one thing- it would give the house a break to not have a "power" figure. Maybe alliances would shift. Also- it would be great to see who the audience nominates.

Spunky

Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 12:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Do you know the original version's name, from the same Italian author Marchesi, he created it in 1995 and then revised it as Quoridor in 1996 which won the Award in 1997.


Mmmm, I'll make things easy for you... it was Pinko Pallino, created in 1995. Looks like a lot of fun. 2 but up to 4 players can play. I think I'll get a Quoridor for myself.

Grande Fratello must have had a similar game.

Rob_Robe

Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 12:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
this game should favor Erika and Jack, i guess, because they were always playing Chess with David and Scott ... hope this is the HOH competition, i am sure it is... because every week, the day b4 wednesday they get to practice ...

Justareader

Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 08:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Last year similar games were given early and used for the food competition. I think that it is prep for that.... I think HOH is still gonna be live...

Mlt

Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 08:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Last year, wasn't there one endurance type contest early on. It seems to me that when Amy came back in the house, they had the HOH comp. that didn't finish at the end of the show. We had to watch the live feeds or wait until the next show to find out who won the HOH. So I suppose they could do something like that again.

Haerpino

Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 09:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
yeah when Amy came back they had some endurance test where they sat in a giant bath tub while random sea creatures were dumped in. Roddy jumped out early and annoyed Chiara. I also remember some rumor that the producers told Amy to win it since it would be embarassing to them if she left the week after she returned.

Maris

Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 09:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes Haer, that is what happened as I recall. The producers told her to win it. Just like the Diary room tells Alison what to say (per Alison), made suggestions to Dana about what was going on (per Dana) and also did the same with Jun (per Jun).

The diary room and producers do influence the game. The winners of Big Brother always seem to come from the west Coast. They say they are from various places like Will was supposedly from the East Coast but it turned out he lived in LA. I think Erika or Robert will win this years BB.

What555456

Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 10:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris

We all remember the set up for Amy. What I wondered at the time is whether the others were told to lose.

I recall the second year, I think it was, when there was a major on-going discussion of whether BB used the DR to alter the show. By last year we were all pretty sure they did. And this year they are so out in the open about it that they are letting the HG's comment about it.

I really have lost a lot of interest in the HOH and POV comps this year because so far they seem to me to be as fixed as anything we have seen.

Maris

Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 10:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think BB "nudges" things along. So yes they may have opened the pipe just a tad for ALisons and Jacks balls. They made a mistake doing it for just those two because it was obvious when they each had six balls and everone else was so far behind. they have always geared competitions towards one HG or another. Remember they do humongous question and answer sessions in the process so I was clued in when Ali won the luxury competition when she said she used her skating skills of fixing on a spot and Erika did the same. Obviously that was set up for either of them to win.

I am still interested in the HOH because this week will tell you who big brother wants to win this thing. I am betting my money on the originals.

What555456

Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 11:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree, Maris. It will be two originals in the end. This thing has been set up by BB so far to make it look like the power is with the exes. But just as we'll see tomorrow on the TV show, whoever BB makes it look like is going, we know it is the other one.

I suspect the same thing is happening in the overall game this year. Just too much choreographing, starting with the picking of the HG's and ongoing throughout these first four weeks.

Of course, if BB really wants to milk the ex thing, they will fix it to have a couple at the end and see how they handle it. If this is the case, BB will aim for either Erica/Robert or Jee/Jun.

Sunshyne4u

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 12:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I would like to see someone returned to the house (OR a replacement for Scott) and automatically they become HOH. This would eliminate the need for the HOH competition and the game would be on as the various HG jockey for position with the new HOH who has been 'out of the loop'.

???? what do you think??? They pretty well set up AMY as HOH last year.....they might as well be obvious about it this year LOL

Tracieinohio

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 02:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Back to the game Quoridor, I got this for my kids for Christmas a couple of years ago. I was looking online for some games different than the usual board games and found it. I believe it won some educational award and that's part of why it caught my eye.

My kids are now 9 & 12 and they can usually kick my butt at this game, usually in about 2 minutes. But, I imagine in a serious competition, it would take a lot longer. They could make them make their move within a certain time frame and that would move the game along quickly.

Crazydog

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 07:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I still find it hard to believe that BB would rig the HoH to make Alison or Jack win. And I don't think the thing with Amy was fixed either. They had just told her that she needed to win it. They told her not to get out of the tub at any cost. And then of course, the others threw it to her.

I don't think anything is "set up" for anyone. Maris, you talk as if the entire game is rigged when you say things like how they made a mistake making the tube bigger only for Ali and Jack. Each houseguest brings different things to the table. They all have different strengths. Ali relied on one of her strengths to win the luxury competition. You could argue that the water pipe food challenge was rigged for Jee, because he is supposedly so handy. But it didn't help him.

If there was an HoH competition that involved strength, like the first one, then of course that is going to favor Nathan and Justin. If it involves brains, that is going to favor smarter players. These allegations of "BB fixing the game" seem to come up every year, and it seems to come up only when the HGs people hate are doing well.

So if this Quoridor game indeed is the HoH, does that mean they don't want Nathan or Justin to win HoH? Because they don't really seem all that bright. Jun seems to enjoy puzzles. Are you saying then that BB wants Jun to win the HOH? Because BB should know that she likes these games, right?

Maris

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 07:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Crazy your argument would have merit if I hated any houseguest but I dont. I dont care for any of them. I agree that certain competitions are geared to individual HGs specific strengths. They are not chance competitions with the exception of a few like this past pov competition. The fact that BB knows the HGs specific skillsets and gears a competition to favor one HG or another is exactly what I mean by they give things a nudge.

It may well have been coincidence that Alison and Jack, the two nominees the week before just happened to have so many balls in their tubes but it just looks suspect to me.

I really dont care who wins this BB, there isnt a single person in that house that I like enough for it to matter for me. I think BB would like the final to be an original and an ex. Maybe Jun Jee or Alison Justin. Who knows.

Aremid

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 07:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Last night, when I was doing LFPs, someone said something about it didn't matter how long it took, or words to that affect. I noted at the time, that perhaps they were referring to the HOH competition. Later Justin and Robert were talking, and something was said about "we can't talk about that". I don't remember the whole context, I'll have to go back and look, but I think it is possible, this will be a long HOH competition.

Aremid

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 07:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Went back and found my post from last night

Erica - while i was napping I was drinking of food
They talk about - what could take so long, that they don't care how long it takes?" ( maybe we are in for a long competition for HOH)

(LOL, just noticed I wrote drinking of food, oh well, I was getting tired)

and later

Rob - tomorrow night, they'll put the weights back before we eat
Jus - maybe, if they do....we can't
Rob - oh yeah ( maybe something they aren't allowed to talk about)

Jamaum

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 10:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Just curious who is best at the corridor game? is it for HOH?

Jpgramma

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 12:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
From what I've read in Joker's livefeeds, some of the HGs (Aly I think) have had a peek of the HOH being set up and they're seeing cubes. They saw Amanda's pic on one of them

Hope they're speculating on the fact that it will be a questions about evicted HGs comp.

The 6 sides could be:
1. Amanda
2. Michelle
3. David
4. Dana
5. Ally (since she can't play)
6. a none of the above.

that's my guess anyway.
Hope Erika, Jack & Nate start practicing on questions about evicted HGs and Ally NOW. be curious to see if Ally chooses to really help them with info about herself, or if she'll hold back secretly hoping her 'other' more secret alliance wins it.

Cinder

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 07:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That last question was geared towards Justin- and the HG's just pointed it out

Stro27

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 07:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't believe Nate didn't get the last question correct after how much he's messed with Alison's stuffed elephant.