Archive through August 01, 2003
TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1:
Jun and Dana are nominated...:
Archive through August 01, 2003
Cricket | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 03:43 am     Robert already did try to tell Jun what Dana was up to. She didn't seem to buy it. Jee got upset because of his alliance with Jun. They think the two of them are going to win the game. Geez, the scenario of Jun saving Dana and thinking she is safe against whomever Ali chooses to put up is very scary. I sure hope that isn't one of the plans the Stooges have been talking about. I just don't think Ali will put Justin up, so this whole thing could be a lost cause. |
C1mag | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 04:29 am     I want Dana to get the veto. I wanna see if Ali will finally put up Justin in her place. She would be in a big delima. The one person she fears would already be safe ( Dana ) . She has once again "sworn" that if the veto is used that Justin will go up if it's not him using the veto and yet she promised Justin she would never nominate or vote him out. So I wanna see the crapfest she would come up with when she doesn't put him up again? She really did do wrong to her so called alliance. I wanna see her forced in a corner and forced to reveal what she is all about. She could have at least nominated Justin and Dana together and then in a tie vote she coulda booted Dana in the end if thats who she wanted out. It's all gonna backfire on her because no one will be trying for the veto except Ali, Dana, and Jun. So again I hope Dana gets it and takes herself off. Nate, Erika, and Jack aren't gonna go for veto wishing Dana would get it as well so they can test her promise that if Dana comes off and Justin doesn't have the veto he goes up. Justin and the guys have said they won't get the veto because if they use it one of their buddys would go up. So it's all Danas for the taking. I wanna see Ali get nailed for what she has pulled. She was so transparent I had to actually turn the feeds off. I noticed that the traffic on here last night after the nominations was really slow. I think quite a few of us also feel like Ali fooled us as well. After all the fighting to get back in the game and the promise to play as a team and the promise to evict Justin and she pulled this out of nowhere. It ranks up there with the time Jason didn't nominate Roddy when he had promised all along but at the last minute said he had promised Chiara he would protect Rod for one week. Justin should be going this week if you are playing with strategy and with your alliance. I still think that if Dana pulls herself off that Ali will put up Jee and tell her alliance she knows that Jun and Jee are a strong alliance. She's gonna protect Justin again and since she screwed nate, jack and erika, she needs to get screwed and that would be having Dana keep herself safe so that come weds ali has to sit back sweating it out to see who gets hoh. Whats even sicker is that her current boyfriend HATES Justin and yet she is saving him. I just wanna see her forced to show that she did in fact play nate to stay in the game but she would sell him down the river in a snap. She promised, vowed, and swore that if Nate used the veto and got that hoh she would put up Justin and he would be gone and sure enough like Nate said, she didn't do it. She was so blatant about it she didn't even put him up. |
C1mag | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 04:39 am     Oh and when Ali nominates Jee after Dana is pulled off the block she will swear to Nate, Erika, and Jack that since Jee or Jun will go that it will make Justin weaker. In fact look for her to ask them to get rid of Jun because she will say Jun is the real leader on the other side and this way jee3 will still remain in tact. I honestly think Ali thinks she can switch over to those guys real soon as needed and play every one of those guys. She just needs certain ones out of their and that is Jun and Dana. |
Seamonkey | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 05:35 am     Ali will also go for veto.. and not use it if she gets it. Ali is really an alliance of one, using anyone who allows it or thinks they are using her. |
Naja | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 05:46 am     Hi, Does anybody know if Dana has sweet talked or mentioned to anybody or even hinted to anybody to try for - and use - the POV on her if they win it? All I heard myself was when she was in the hottub-- that she isn't even going to try for it, which I thought was bull-puckey and something she said in a meaningless rambling. |
Fabnsab | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 06:01 am     I remember a conversation Ali had with Erika once where they basically vowed to take eachothers ex's out. Erika said she would gun for Justin and Ali said the same about Robert. If the veto is used, shouldn't Ali put Robert up instead? I think the convo was quite a while ago but still, I would hold her to it, if I were Erika. |
Minnyace01 | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 06:19 am     C1mag - I agree with both of your previous statements. Ali has played Nate, probably because he didn't show enough interest in her. It would be interesting to see Dana win the veto, pull herself off the block, and see who Ali puts up. She could have made it a long ways in the game, but in the end, her poor play is probably going to cost any member of her alliance a chance to win the game. |
Crazydog | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:21 am     I think Alison made the right move in nominating Dana and Jun. In nominating Dana, she is attempting to get rid of a woman who passionately hates her and will do whatever it takes to eliminate her. If she hadn't nominated Jun and Jun won the veto, Jun would take Dana off (like what happened with Nathan and Ali). Jun is not stupid, as she said the other night, Dana is not her friend, and I don't think she will sacrifice herself for Dana's sake. Jun just needs her for the numbers. I don't see Jee3 using the veto because that would mean one of them would go up. Alison needs Dana gone, and if she had put Dana up with Justin then Dana probably wouldn't be going. |
Sasman | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:32 am     I would do the same thing if I were Ali: Dana <sd> hates Ali and will do and say anything to get her out. She has really helped poison the house against Ali. Dana has to go if Ali has any chance to win. But, as much as I don't like her, I'm hoping that Dana wins POV and takes herself off of the block. It does not get any better for us if Dana & Ali continue to stay and torment each other!!!!! |
Spunky | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:14 am     Yes, I agree that the decoy (Jun) was a mistake. History has proved that if you really want to get rid of an enemy is to nominate the two you dislike the most. Now Dana can save herself, no one else will dare save her, and the least Ali could do is to put Justin up to garantie he'll be gone. If she doesn't do it, she'll be gone next week and she deserves to be gone for such stupidity. However, if Justin wins POV I think he may use it since he's safe. Ali cannot nominate the POV holder. Ali will be totally screwed, her nominations came to nothing!! Then, in that case Jun is gone but Ali's worst enemies are still there. What a nerve wrecking game this is! |
Crazydog | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:24 am     Justin won't use the veto because that would probably mean that Robert goes up. I believe that Justin's alliance with Robert and Jee is stronger than the one he has with Dana. |
Maris | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:29 am     I dont think anyone will use the POV except Dana and Jun. Although, if Nathan was really nasty he could use it and force Ali to put up Justin. Lets assume that Dana does veto herself and Jun is evicted, I believe Dana will tell Ali she is safe and that she is going after Nathan. Dana has made it very clear she wants Nathan out before Ali. Things and enemies change every week in that house. Expect the unexpected doesnt just apply to what BB is going to do to the Houseguests, it also applies to what the Houseguests will do to each other. That is the fun of this show. |
Cliotheleo | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:31 am     <<<Dana has made it very clear she wants Nathan out before Ali. Things and enemies change every week in that house.>>> Yep, just like Dana's position on who she wants out first. I've heard her say she wants Ali out before Nathan. Either one would be fine with me. |
Maris | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:33 am     Clio did you check your folder. I left a little something (Davids radio interview) for you. |
Spunky | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:34 am     I'm so ready to bet Dana and Justin are going to be both safe on Wednesday. If Ali puts Robert, then Ali should decide the tiebreaker by evicting Jun. That's the least she could do.. |
Minnyace01 | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:36 am     Spunk - you're right. Ali seems to have this notion that she is in tight with Justin, which she is not. I also think that Justin will use the veto if he gets it. Not a bright move, IMHO, on her part. |
Maris | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:36 am     Why is it the least she could do? |
Cliotheleo | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:36 am     Thank ((((((you)))))! I'll go check that out. You know what Maris .............. I really shouldn't post on an empty stomache. I read your comment wrong. I don't think I've EVER heard Dana SAY she wants Ali out before Nathan. ........ she's done everything in her power to try and implement that (her noms) but I don't think she's ever SAID it. ...... anyway, on my way to check out David. Maybe that will help me think more clearly. (yeah right!) |
Spunky | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:45 am     Maris, do you think she'd be that stupid to evict Robert instead of Jun? Holy cow, give the girl some credit! |
Maris | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:48 am     I dont but I dont understand what you mean by the least she could do. It sounded like she owes someone something and therefore must nominate Robert. I think she would put up Jee and make it a Jee Jun nomination. Break up that alliance. |
What555456 | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:54 am     C1Mag If one or the other is veto'd, Ali will not put Justin. She may tell others she will, and when Justin hears this, we will have to listen to the following conversation.... Justin: You know, I have always loved you. When we broke up, I was hurt and then I got angry. I have said some mean things about you. I am sorry. But you have said them about me too. That's Ok, you were hurt and angry also. Alison: Awww.... You have always been so sweet. But you realy did hurt me. And you have been against me in this house. Justin: That's just because I have seen how you are with Nate. I know we are not together still and you can do what you want, but it hurt me to see you and him together. I didn't know what to do. I am sorry. I have been wrong. It's just hard when you see someone you care so much about with someone else. Alison: Well, if I don't put you up, who should I put up? Justin: That's up to you. I wish it were Nate,of course. But that is up to you. I just don't want to leave here knowing you are alone with Nate. It hurts too much. If we are in here together, we can be together -- and no one would know -- just like old times. We could work together and we could win. And then when we are out of here, we can be together again. Alison: Awww....you were always so sweet. You mean what you say? Justin: I have never been more serious in my life. Alison: OK, I'll put up Nate if it means that much to you. Justin: Thanks, Sweetheart. I love you a lot you know. I am sorry for everything that has happpened. Alison: Me too. But that is behind us now. At which point, Justin will go to the other guys and boastingly announce "OK, I did it. I'm safe. She is going to put up Nate. We'll get him out. And then go back to our original plan. Damn that Alison is stupid!" |
Bluerose | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 10:11 am     Dana can make clear all she wants-who she wants out. Her butt is out the door Wednesday. |
Cliotheleo | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 10:13 am     What, that would be wonderful. I think you're right, Justin is safe with Ali. HE broke up with her, and despite what she might say, she feels spurned. When that happens, women do one of two things, we either turn into psycho-witches and send them dead animals, or we feign hatred for them only to secretly desire to still be with them. I think it's clear that Justin has no feelings for Ali (if he every had any that were deeper than physical attraction) but I think if, given the chance, Ali would get back with him if he gave her the chance. So she WANTS to keep him around. If she wanted to get rid of Justin, she would have nominated him. |
Katlady53 | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 10:26 am     Clio, I totally agree, except I honestly don't think Ali wants to get back with Justin. I think she'd bask in any personal attention from him, though. |
Bmh | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 10:30 am     Why would Ali run her mouth telling Erika,Jack,and Nate how Justin will be nominated if Dana or Jun's place if one of them are vetoed then???....Ali isn't that stupid she can come up with a million excuses but if the veto is used and Justin is NOT on the block then she is seriously neglecting her alliance with Jack,Erika,and especially Nate and that is really dumb...I think if the veto gets used Alison will nominate Justin just to apease everybody on her side |
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