Archive through August 08, 2003
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Arrogance in the Houseguests:
Archive through August 08, 2003
Xarph | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 06:19 pm     Jack never told the stooges who he would vote for in the Michelle/Erika nomination. This was pointed out by Jack and others during that week. The stooges assumed that had Jack's vote and the vote of others who never explicitly said how they would vote. |
Saggkl | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 06:20 pm     LOL Costacat. funny. That was what it was all about. |
Crossfire | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 06:24 pm     I guess I am yet again in in the minority for having enjoyed watching the boys in the hood running a tight HOH room. Compared to the nasty crap that went on in there last year with M&A, I totally enjoyed that. |
Cameltoes | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 06:26 pm     No, he didn't tell them how he would vote but both he and David did agree to an alliance that they had no intention of following through with. I am surprised that they rarely discuss how much Ali lied to them that week. She was the one who explicitly promised that David and Jack would vote Erika out. They seemed to have felt more burned by the guys though. |
What555456 | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 06:28 pm     The arrogance is adolescent testosterone. They sound just like sophomore's in high school. "We're #1 We're #1!" And while this sort of thing is chanted by lots of older tesosterone laden males in sports and the like, the nasty side of the arrogance -- attacking others meanly -- is the high school sophomore side. BTW, isn't it a major infraction of the rules to promise a share of the winnings to other HG's? I thought that was totally verboten. |
Jag2000 | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 06:31 pm     I wonder what Jack would say if he knew that Ericka and Allie voted to evict him 2 weeks ago. The Jee3 voted to keep him in as they will do this week. Allie is really on my nerves, she is worse than the Jee3. They know what she is up to and I can't understand why they want Jack and Erica out before Allie. She is a snake in the grass and may turn around and bite them in the butt. Yes, they are a little cocky and may be crowing a little too early but I think they are comical. JMHO |
Laisey | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 06:38 pm     What, it is and I believe the DR straightened them out on that subject. I think that was one of the questions AS was asked in his interview. Jag, Jack knew. Erika told him that since Dave was definitely going she was going to vote to evict Jack. He was fine with that. |
Efilon | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 06:39 pm     I thought it was a little over the top when Justin talked about how "he" is playing the game with honesty and integrity and then went on to talk about how Jack and Nate had lied to his face. LOL.....pot meet kettle. For the record, I don't really care for any of these guys, Robert the least....riding coat tails, Justin...luck with the Ali. Jee is the best of the three. There is such a thing as having fun but these three with their mafioso game and the mean spirit that they go on with certainly doesn't win them any points with me. Don't really care for Ali, though I used to, Jun is too too sneaky for me. That leaves Jack and Ericka...boring. I'm sure I will continue to watch the show and catch some live feeds but this year has been a really big disappointment for me. |
Earthmother | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 06:43 pm     All BB players in history: "I can't believe they lied to me, I am the most honest person here". |
Xarph | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 06:43 pm     Efilon: Ditto |
Omegabubbles | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 06:52 pm     Is it my imagination or is Ali evolving into another Dana? I loved Ali when she was going after Dana but she is turning bad too. As for Jack, he can do no wrong with me, I adore him and all his comments. |
Seanflynn2003 | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 07:00 pm     Two comments on Justin's reasons for nominating Jack; -- he was stretching to give an honest reason rather than the pablum often offered by HoH (and which posters often criticize here); I think he overstated it, but at least he tried -- he may stupidly have lost any chance for Jack's vote if he ends up in the final two |
C1mag | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 07:09 pm     What cracks me up about Jee, Rob, and Justin is if you go back to the first 3 weeks these guys had no structure or desire to even be in the game any longer. They literally were pushed through to the top of the house. I've never seen this game played out this way. It's a joke, but I'll keep watching to see what happens. Ask these guys what their original game plan was... They had none. All they did was talk about getting out and not caring and hanging at the beach. |
Stro27 | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 07:12 pm     I really think the expectations on these guys are very unrealistic. If they are not complete gentlemen to everyone at all times, they're considered a bunch of creeps. Compared to your average male in their 20's they’re pretty darn tame. For me, they’re the only reason to watch this season. They liven things up. While everyone else acts so up tight trying to put on a snooty phony act. These guys are just being themselves, not changing who they are, not taking themselves too seriously, or overanalyzing every single thing. |
Seanflynn2003 | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 07:13 pm     I don't remember Lisa last year being one of the great planners of all time either, but she won (although she made one great move by voting against Eric's return to the house) |
C1mag | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 07:20 pm     These guys have been targets all along and each week someone has come along and said, "smile guys cause you are safe" They accepted they were going and even said, "I don't care get me out" and some nut saves them. Thats the difference between Lisa and them. Lisa went unnoticed. These guys have been walking targets like walking in the middle of traffic and every time they just pass by. It's a bust. They've had no plan or structure when they were saved out of nowhere. They plan got lucky. You can't help but laugh. Then when they do get hoh this last week you have half the viewers screaming foul over and odd question that only Justin would know for sure. It's just funny. I have no doubt Arnie knows exactly what he's doin. |
Carol | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 07:24 pm     I have watched my live feeds probably about an hour since Justin won HoH. I don't like the arrogance. I don't find it funny nor entertaining. I haven't cancelled my live feeds yet because I'm hoping for a twist to break up a rather predictable season. |
C1mag | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 07:25 pm     Oh and what makes it more funny is that each time these guys were saved they all went away laughing and saying, "they know we are a strength of three and they are saving all of us and handing us the game" It's funny to watch people do this. |
Sia | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 08:06 pm     I don't have the live feeds and don't have time to read the LF transcripts, but I do watch every episode of the show. I found the Jee3's game on tonight's show amusing with Robert acting as the "doorman" and clearing each visiting hamster with Justin and Jee approving. I thought that was funny. Yes, they can make some pretty cutting statements about other hamsters, but so do they all!! I would NEVER utter some of the horrid things that have fallen from the houseguests' lips this season. |
C1mag | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 08:09 pm     this is the first year that you keep seeing people face a jury when they go into the hoh. It's a bust watching this thing. |
Seanflynn2003 | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 08:18 pm     Not a 3 stooges fan here, but watching the show right now I must say their behavior tonight was both entertaining and somewhat endearing. It may kick them in the ass, but what the hell -- they earned it. I'm with Jack (his DR comments) on this one |
Puzzled | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 08:18 pm     It's so silly--the younger women always shoot themselves in the foot by squabbling with each other and voting each other out. It happens on BB and survivor. When will these twits figure it out? |
Gina8642 | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 08:18 pm     I too thought it was pretty funny. It was even more funny when I watched it on the Live Feeds. Yes, it was arrogant, but it was meant as good fun. Robert, for all his annoyingness (if that is a word), made a good point that they (Ja/Er/Na/Allie/Dave) treated them (Jee3) bad (the michelle out week, now they (Jee3) will treat the other side bad). IMO Justin and Jee honestly means it just to be funny. Robert, I'm not so sure about him, but what can I do? As far as Justin playing the game with honesty and integrity - I actually think he is. Half the time Allie, or Dana, or Jun is trying to figure out how someone knew about some deal, it is because Justin talked about it. If someone asks him to his face about a deal, he tells them straight out. (He does keep very quiet however, and he does need to be asked, he doesn't blurt things out a la Dana, or a drunk Allie). However, I don't think it was smart of Justin to say that, I don't believe any of the HGs believe that, and they will think he is a hypocrite for saying it. (Kinda like on Amazon Survivor when they all wanted to lynch Matthew for saying similar stuff.) |
Philamom | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 08:20 pm     I was starting to like Justin until I heard his nomination speech. I just can't stand it when people do that ... he basically said "I'm honest and have integrity and you're a liar." Sorry, I can't stomach that self-righteous, hypocritical hogwash. And I'm not even sure what he's talking about when he told Jack that he lied to him ... Jack looked a little confused himself. If Justin is talking about the Michelle eviction, then Ali, Nate, Jun, Jack, and Erika all "lied" to him. So it makes no sense to single Nate and Jack out, if that's his reasoning. |
Lancecrossfire | Friday, August 08, 2003 - 08:24 pm     I have no problem with the arrogance as long as they take it as well as they are dishing it out. Something tells me that isn't going to happen though--and I'm betting Robert leads the way on the whining about what happens once J3 doesn't have HOH. The did earn bragging rights, however too much of anything like that gets old VERY fast--very fast. And as the saying goes, in a competition, there are very few things that are as unimportant as the score at half time |
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