Boberg | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 06:32 am     I did not see the live feeds about this slander by Jun and Ali but gggrrrr it makes me angry. I have live feeds and have seen Jack be nothing but a gentleman...going so far as to give Jun and Ali the shirt off his back so they could have some amount of privacy to urinate in the HOH cage comp. and then when they got urine on it he never complained a drop. The other two guys refused t help to the girls. Now you here tell me they are in there with Rob and Jee telling these guys that jack has made them uncomfortable! All of these people (less so with Erika) talking about sexual escapeds, talking about sexual dreams, talking about how horny they are, walking around the BB campus very scantily dressed and Jack has kept a low profile during these discussions with only an occasional comment. When he has touched another HG that I have seen it has always been more fatherly than sexual. These two girls have just stooped too low for me..I was rooting for them to pull off the all girl alliance but if this becomes part of the game...slandering a man who has been nothing but nice to them...then I'm not sure I can root for any of them. Already can't stand Rob and by association Jee. i was really liking Jun ( thought she had a great sense of humor and wit and admired her game playing skills) but can not stomach this kind of untrue slander! I hope BB decides to show Jun and Ali coming up with this scheme on TV! |
Spwisc | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 06:39 am     I'm still holding onto the hope the Jun is playing Ali and will still do as the Jee/Jun alliance and vote out Erika. Maybe she is pacifying Ali and telling them in the DR that she is insane about doing that to Jack |
Csnog | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 06:41 am     Since this has now happened 3 years in a row I am begining to wonder if the seeds are being planted in the DR. It would be easy to pose a question to a HG. |
Lardbrick | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 07:12 am     They need to consider the source. Didn't Ali try to start the rumor that Nate was gay? You would think that they would realize by now that Ali is loco and shouldn't be believed. And Jun isn't too far behind Ali...... |
Lisad | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 07:17 am     Prior to this, I heard Jun refer to Jack as a "pervert" about 3 times. Seriously, these people in the house are mostly all <LC> in one way or another. I still say I do NOT understand why Jee will not get rid of Ali. I guess it's because he feels no one would vote for her. LOL - OK - True, but still... Most times, it just plain amazes me she is still in the house. |
Sbw | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 07:21 am     Most of us who are on BB forums will know the truth. Those will internet feeds that do not visit the forums should know what is going on. CBS/BB is the one with the power to take the high road on this one which I hope they will do. I think Jack will find it funny in the end. However, I do find it a disgusting way to play a game. |
Csnog | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 07:27 am     This is where Jee and Robert are using their emotions instead of their head "The top one" lol. Justin warned them to boot Ali and keep Erika but Jee and Robert keep returning to the old get rid of Erika. Without Justin the 2 of them are lost and won't stop to ask for directions. Robert wants to last longer than Erika and Jee is easily influenced. |
Lorry | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 08:14 am     What is happening to Jack (the pervert talk) is no different than what was done to Amber (not sure if that was her name), or what was done to Gerry, or Roddy being called the Devil. Amy was labeled a drunk and so on and so on.... You sign up for BB and you take what you get. It's a game, a game that the world watches if you win or fail. They know what they signed up for, it is up to them to not give the other HGs any reason to talk... or else, deal with it if it happens. Jack is surely big enough and smart enough (maybe) to realize he would eventually be on the other end of the "buzzard's crotch" type attack. He is no innocent himself. Take it like a man Jack.... |
Fruitbat | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 08:19 am     We don't know if they will do this. I assume they were brainstorming the idea. (I do not have the feeds) I surely hope they will come to their senses. This is lousy. Widowswalk said >>>>I'm sorry too, I like Jack too but I must be honest, when I came on this thread and read the phrase "Jack scares them" I fell off my chair laughing. That is just a funny statement. Here comes Jack- booga booga. Sorry guys, I'll be good. <<<<< I had to bring this post forward. Love it! |
Lorry | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 08:27 am     Widowswalk seems to have a great way with words. I really enjoy her/his posts. I have to commend the posters here... You all are very quick witted and intelligent posters. In fact, without the posters here, I doubt I would watch BB as much as I do.... so damn it... stop being so interesting... my house needs cleaned!!! |
Csnog | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 08:34 am     Sorry Lory but there is game and then there is vile. Jack doesn't know what Ali said. Smearing a mans name in this manner is below the belt. |
Biloxibelle | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 08:34 am     I agree with you sbw. BB has no control over what bright ideas the HG come up with but they do have the control of editing. I really hope that if this great plan makes the air they follow it with how untrue it is. I have seen Jack do nothing but treat these girls as he would treat his daughters and want his daughters to be treated. Jack has a beautiful wife at home and they appear to also be best friends. To me Jun seems to have a morbid fascination with her "assets" and thinks that everyone else does also. I remember from the very first show when every one was standing on the beams hanging on for dear life all Jun could say about it was she had on a short shirt and the guys were trying to look up it. She has offered herself up on a platter only to be turned down. It would not surpise me if she doesn't think all the men including Jack are suffering from "want of her". That said I can't say anything about Ali that hasn't been already said other then IMO she came from the shallow end of the gene pool. I am interested in how Ericia will handle this plan if she hears about it. To me there are just some things you don't do for money no matter how much. And if their "little plan" does happen to net them some winning money they deserve whatever Karma comes attached to it. I just hope BB and AS do the right thing with this story line and either totally ignore it or show it for the lie it is. |
Vealprince | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 08:52 am     If it suits their purpose they will eventually come to actually believe the fabrication they are creating. Jack should be measured on his behavior, not on the small amount of innuendo he has indulged in. Why is Jack not supposed to ever say anything sexual in the environment of the house? Ali, for all the sex energy she puts out there on an hourly basis is all of a sudden unconfortable by Jack? Puleeeze. They only way I want to see this on TV is for Arnie to make her out like total hypocrite. Again. |
What555456 | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 09:04 am     How do we know Ali and Jun are not being honest about how they feel? We have all heard Jack make sexual comments about the women in the house. Just because we have not seen him act on them or heard him actually say something inappropriate does not mean he has not done so. If Jack cannot control himself or if the way he is acting towards them is making Jun and Ali feel exploited, then they have a right to raise this concern to try to get him out. |
Whit4you | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 09:10 am     Ali feel exploited??? OOOOOOHHHHH geez. |
Vskatefan | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 09:14 am     How do we know they are not being honest? They are Ali and Jun. LOL Either way, I bet if any other guy made the same comments(whatever they were) Ali and Jun would not bat an eye. |
Spunky | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 09:15 am     I remember going all nuts when I saw this thread but then I found out that the whole thing didn't take more than a minute to say and it was soon forgotten by .."dense" Jee laughed it off, and saying as Danielle used to say people have 'needs' in this house. But they better drop it and not insist on that moronic tactic or they'll have to pay big time. And for those who don't want to see this on the show, we already saw it.. Jun referred to this already.. saying Jack gives her the creeps... or something like that and so maybe they will air it unless some internet viewers keep complaining to CBS that this is outrageous.. Someone in the DR is bound to tell them their accusations have pissed a lot of people off. |
Philamom | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 09:16 am     We know they're not being honest, What, because Ali SAID she was going to make up lies about Jack. It's pretty simple. |
Whit4you | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 09:36 am     Maybe she was lying when she said she was going to make up lies? |
Buggles | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 09:45 am     Okay... I'm a Jack fan, I think he's the most honorable person left in the house & hence I'm rooting for him. BUT I must say that he's clearly eyeing the young women sexually. Best example - does anyone remember the comp with the bubbles when they had to remove their swimsuits & hang a letter on the clothing line? And Jack smiled straight into the camera saying that his goal was to catch glimpses of the women (Ali, Jun & Erika) nekkid & he was happy cause he did? I would characterize an 'honorable man' as one who would glance the other way when his young female housemates were in a compromising position NOT go out of his way to peek LOL. I'm not getting on Jack here but he has indeed been eyeing the young women sexually, in a way that MOST women in their 20s would consider 'perverted' or creepy. He could be their dad & that's the way they'd prefer to be looked (erm not looked) at. Sorry to the middle aged male peepers on here but that's just the bald truth All of that said... I haven't seen exactly what Ali & Jun are saying... it does sound like they are trying to milk their slight discomfort to an extreme for game purposes. Are they trying to make out like Jack is an unsafe man who will rape them? Or just that in deciding who they want to continue to live with in the house, they are getting tired of feeling uncomfortable being eye candy for a man who could be their father? I'm sure they could deal with the latter if it was to their advantage but they are trying to milk it if it is not. Philamon - I just read your post LOL... ok, so Ali said she would deliberately lie about Jack. Can you or someone please elaborate? I'll go ahead & post my thoughts here anyway Jun HAS been saying for weeks now that Jack creeps her out & my gut feeling is that she's being genuine. Again, despite my musings on this topic I *do* like Jack and *don't* like Jun & Ali  |
Bearware | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 09:50 am     We DO need to tell them at CBS that we disapprove. There's a link in the "Can we get a message to Arnie" Thread. I've already complained. |
Vskatefan | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 09:51 am     Double standard-if you are young you can oggle and make comments. If you are not as young, you can't. I don't like double standards. That being said, if Jack did see the show last year, he should also know that being older means you have to act as perfect as possible because there is a double standard. So, yes, Jack made some mistakes. |
Maris | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 09:55 am     I think this is much ado about nothing. The lies about Jack are no different than the lies about Nathan and others. As far as Jack ogling the girls, so what. The only thing I thought might have been a little inappropriate were his comments in the diary room about Michele. That was a little creepy but it isnt a big deal. Writing to CBS isnt going to get very far and might just be the subject of a few water cooler jokes. Jack is a big boy he can handle this if that is all that is said about him. He did sign up for this show and I doubt he would lose any sleep over it once he gets out of the house. |
Csnog | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 10:00 am     Let's see, Mmmmmmmmmmmmm Jee can tell Erika what to wear and what he wants to see and thats OK. Jack has taken as much as he can in that house and tried to act like a gentleman even giving the shirt off his back for Jun to have privacy while in the cage. Robert has called the females every vile name in the dictionary and some not in it. Ali can jump on the bones of anyone she pleases. Jack is not perfect but compared to what is in the house with him he darn near is. |
Fruitbat | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 10:00 am     >>>>I would characterize an 'honorable man' as one who would glance the other way when his young female housemates were in a compromising position NOT go out of his way to peek LOL<<<<< Oh come on. Nothing wrong with looking. He was peeking at the same women who gave the peanut butter fashion show. That has just GOT to be Ok! This thread is really running to the cliff here. Jack is a good man, Jun and Ali brain stormed a bad idea, no one did or will take it seriously. |