Who's Going???!!! Jack or Nate?
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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Who's Going???!!! Jack or Nate?
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Watching2

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 04:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just for the sake of discussion :) What if Justin and Nate made a secret alliance and used each other to take out the players on their original alliances? That way Justin would still look good with his Jee-boys and Nate would still look good with Erika & Jack, etc. Although, Justin would have the votes to win. I don't think the rest of them get what a creepy guy Robert is (at least to us) so I don't know if they think he would be a good stooge to bring in to try to win against or not. Justin's downfall is going to be his alliance to the Jee3.

I like Jack & Erika also, but they can't keep sliding by. I sort of agree with what Nate was saying yesterday about every year they vote out the stronger players and those who have been sliding or "hiding" end up taking the game.

Now I really couldn't stand it if Jun or Robert won. I don't think any of the rest of them are super great, but it would make it interesting to see a big mix-up in the house instead of just the boring mix it looks like we have ahead of us.

If it ends up being just the Jee3 and Justin left, I don't know if I'm going to even care about watching anymore.

C1mag

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 04:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
grama I'm all up for that scenario and keep waiting for it to happen but Jack has some major flaws in his analysis. He may even throw this next hoh thinking he is safe because someone will sucker him into believing the next target is Ali so he will back off. Until Jack does something other than just "talk" about what should be done I'm not going to be convinced he is an asset in this game at all. I've got my fingers crossed for him but still not sure if he knows what he's doing.

Kmjm

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 05:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack is not oblivious to what has been going on. He is just telling Erika that he doesn't believe in "panic" negotiation, that it makes you look weak. If he or Erika get HOH, then they won't have any promises to honour, and then we'll see one of the stooges go! (I can dream, can't I?) Jack's strategy may be boring, but so far he's done very well for himself.

Philamom

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 06:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am so relieved ... I was out for a while and came back to the wonderful news that the stooges have changed their mind again and decided to evict Nate. (doing the dance of joy ... LOL, anyone remember that from "Perfect Strangers"?)

Now Jack has got to step up to the plate. I'll say a novena for him for tomorrow's HOH comp.

Pannie

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 06:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL at C1mag's "three kings of orient tard" name for the 3 stooges. very clever!

Meggieprice

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 06:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Why is it that every week HOH is life or death? This one really is the ultimate one- either there will be some mix it up action if J/E gets it or there will be boring predictable end if anyone else does. Blech!

Rarereader1

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 06:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Nate goes this week, do you think that any of the Jee3 will realize that taking Ali to the end could win them the game. Dana won't vote Ali, Nate blames Ali and probably won't vote her and then 2 of the Jee3 will be on the jury...the 4 votes needed to win. just a thought

Missy2

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 11:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
So I take it Nate is going this week? I wish he would have stayed but oh well. Jee3 is better off keeping him at least he gave them a promise (which I think he would have kept).

Mrsmel

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 12:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I do not agree with the concept of keeping Nate "if its physical" because if it is then Jack's not likely to win it anyway. If they leave Nate in and he wins, he can go "Nana nana boo boo, I fooled you" and put the stooges up....lol

Cameltoes

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 01:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The funniest thing today was Nate going into the HOH with some BS story about Jun telling him that Jack cut a deal with them. Justin's reaction was great - saying how up front Erika and Jack were, how great his conversation with Jack was and how much he respected Jack for being honest and not cutting a deal with him. I just wish there was a closeup on Nate's face during that little speech.

Seems like Nate is still going but they went to turtle cam during the conversation and BB was apparently prepping them for the show/HOH tonight.

Smokeit

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 01:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nat is leaving tonight. Justin just asked Jack if he could wear his FBI shirt for the live show. Why barrow a shirt off a person who isn't going to be there to give it back? Jack is safe again!!!!!! My eye candy is leaving!!!!

Beachmama

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 01:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
All they guys have been wanting to get their hands on Jacks FBI shirts.. if he borrows it and then Jack is evicted, he wont have to give it back... much like Ali did with Michelles outfit the night Michelle was evicted.

Or....

Jacks not leaving.

Pengoh

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 01:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
well the houseguests also know that if you have something of an evicted houseguest, you can just put it in the storage room later and BB will get it to the right person (happened with Ali/Michelle)

Needmylifeback

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 01:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that it would be funny this week if they (each and every one of them...) would think about evicting who they thought would cause the most headache to Dana in the sequestered house! Think about it...there are different reasons for both Jack and Nathan and that is one whole week of just that person and Dana....Hmmmmm...

And on a side note...I couldn't figure out what to have for lunch ...so I'm having PB&J! YUM!

Misslibra

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 01:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well the stooges said if the comp was a physical one they would keep Nate, if it's mental they will keep Jack.

Not sure that is smart strategy on there part. It would seem they would want to keep Jack if it's physical thinking he is older and can not do physical comps as well as Robert or Jee, and wouldn't have to worry to much about Jack getting the physical comp and putting one of them up, wouldn't you think ?

Brenda1966

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 01:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If the "stooges" keep Nate, then their name suits them well.

Seamonkey

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 01:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nate isn't the only one to be hypocritical calling others for doing what he's doing..

I think most of them just heap scorn upon anyone besides "me" in hopes that that other person will be gone first.

Jun is the favorite goat.. I just love it that Jack can agree that Jun has done nothing in the game .. uh.. precisely what have Jack and Erika done, game wise?

Jack suggests that Jun should be punished for "betraying" the original alliance but what about Ali? She's done FAR more harm with her constant jerking around of Nate, Jack, Erika, Dave and now is working on the Jee3 to replace Jun but still working to keep Nate against that group's interests, or, who knows with Nate.

Seems to me that Nate and Ali have done the most to hurt pretty much any group going in the house.

I think Nate should go.. so much whining and groveling and pouting.. he definitely outdid
Dana as a drama queen on the block.

And Ali dares to claim that she's been on the block and understands.. She was vetoed OFF the block so she hasn't had to pack or sit in those chairs waiting for voting results.

R151996

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 02:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nate and Ali hurt Jack, Erika, and Dave because it was in their own best interests. Nate has said several times this week that the only real alliance he has felt has been with Ali, and that he did not totally trust Jack and Erika (with good reason).

If Dana had stayed and won HoH, Ali would have been out the door tonight without a near-impossible veto win last Friday. Dana was the second choice evictee of the "The Aliiance" behind Justin with those two being the preferred nomination pair. If Robert had won the veto as it played out, Justin would have been saved and Dana would still have been evicted.

Seanflynn2003

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 02:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
When Jack learns that his staying this week (if that is what happens) is mainly because of Jun's efforts with Jee3, hopefully he will rethink his opinion of her.

Crazydog

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 03:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I really feel that Jee3 is better off keeping Nathan around. They should also keep Alison in the dark. Robert, Jee and Jun should vote off Jack, while Erika and Alison vote off Nathan. If Nathan stays in the house and wins HoH, he will be gunning for Alison once he learns that she voted him off. Buys Jee3 another week.

On the other hand, if Jack stays and he or Erika wins HoH, Jee3 definitely loses a member.

Justin could be borrowing Jack's shirt because it's his last chance to do so. Or he's trying to psych Jack out into thinking he is safe. Who knows what the stooges will do, I really could see them wanting to keep Nathan just for shock value.

Eeyoreslament

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 03:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This whole "physical competition = keep Nate" or "mental competition = keep Jack" is stupid.

Personally, I can't understand why they haven't noticed what pimpin' shape Jack is in, and what good shape you need to be in, to have had a job like his. So he'd most likely be good in a physical competition if he WANTED to be.

Secondly, why keep Jack for a mental competiton, considering he has already chosen to throw the HOH mental competition. Also, he lost his own POV mental competition to save his own butt. So why keep Jack for a mental competition?!?!!

(PS - I hope Jack stays though)

Misslibra

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 03:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They wont even know for sure what type of comp it is until they see it so how will they decide who to keep then when they haven't even seen what type of comp it is.

Texasdeb

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 04:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This is up in the air. I think it will be Nate evicted but who knows. Jee3 is in the best postition at this point for one of theirs to win the whole thing. I guess I'd be ok with Justin or Jee but a Robert win would hurt me as a female bb fan.

Way2prissy

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 04:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Please, please, PLEASE let there be twist tonight so Nate can stay. I want him to get his revenge on Allison and the "Nerd Herd."

Beachmama

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 04:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm with you way2prissy! I'm hoping against hope that he gets to stay but I've got a feeling he's gonna be evicted. :(

Way2prissy

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 04:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Say it isn't so Beachmama! I'm going to need some ice cream to make it through this show...

Beachmama

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 04:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
mmmmm... Ice Cream! Great idea! I've got coffee sitting here to keep me awake, definately need some chocolate ice cream to go with it! It's just crazy how keyed up I get on eviction night.. and tonight being a live vote makes it 10 times worse! I SO want Nate to get to stay and if they don't give us something besides the FOTH we aren't going to know which way it's gonna go till the last minute! I can't stand it!

Kalihiwahine

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 06:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I really think Nate is leaving because of what was written on the live feeds earlier that "Nate knows"....

and he really doesn't look very happy sitting there...

and it didn't appear that the 3stooges were very friendly to him right before they went to FOTH

I really hate to see Nate or Jack go...

I have to keep reminding myself that it's just a game.... it's just a game

Saggkl

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 06:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
But didn't Nate promise if they kept him he would not put up any of the three? did he say just this week Or how long?

Wendo

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 06:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Voting to start...I'm gonna go with Nate.

Kalihiwahine

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 06:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
robt is first of 3stooges and they all agreed to vote the same...

so...nate is out...

whenever those 3 would think of keeping nate, jun & jee would get them back thinking about the reasons to evict nate...(jun/jee alliance)

Saggkl

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 06:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought I would trow up when Allison hugged Rob.