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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Did you see... (Sightings that don't require a whole thread) (ARCHIVES: Archive through August 30, 2003

Meme9

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 09:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Josh's eyebrows look well groomed. hehehe

Onlyhuman

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 09:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm really not liking this latest revelation.

There's just something about all this that makes my stomach turn.

Erika is on a show that her boyfriend came in second place on, yet no one knows this and it seems like it is being kept top secret, like somehow this is a bad thing.

Why is it bad unless there's something fishy about the situation?

This year, more than any other, I've really felt like there was a lot of behind the scenes manipulation. If this is true, and all the evidence certainly indicates that it is, I am even more doubtful about this show.

Maybe it's just that I'm sick of all of these reality people being from the same little clique. Robert and Erika have talked about Belly and Mike Booger and I've seen on Josh's website that he has hung out there before. And it's not just this show, these prople keep popping up on Survivor and TAR as well.

I never had any delusions that these people actually represent a cross-section of America but I can see now why they had to have the x-factor. Given the pool of HGs that they seem to pull from, it was only a matter of time before people cast on the show actually knew each other beforehand. They just accelerated the process.

To paraphrase Dawn Marie, form AS's other production, The Family, I feel "icky" about this.

edited because Wendo posted while I was trying to type coherent thoughts and I wanted to say that I know that AS had nothing to do with Josh's season so I don't think they are favoring her because of him. However, I do think there are alot of connections made through these shows and that's what seems to help these people get on in the first place. Given the background checks and interviews they do, they HAD to know the relationship between these two.

Oh, and yes, it was Josh's mother who died when he was 13.

Mrose4243

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 09:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I did a google search on Erika Landin and came across this from www.bigbrotherdiary.com:

Saturday, August 2, 2003 There's a rumor that Erika Landin's boyfriend is somehow connected to the show and that Erika was planted on the show to stir things up. Does anyone else have anymore info?

Sanfranjoshfan

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 09:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Reality TV is a very small world....check this out on the TVTome site:

"Erika made the semi-finals of selection in the Amazing Race for AR2 and AR3 "

http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/PersonDetail/personid-206160/

edited to add - Just wanted to add that AR is the same network as BB (CBS) so she's already met people and made some kind of connections with CBS reality show producers, regardless of whether or not she's dating Josh Souza!

Hamsterlady

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 10:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Did you see the key they're zooming in on on the door handle? Is that the door for the Desert Room?

Key

Rubberduckey

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 10:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
yeah i saw that to , i wonder if its the hoh key or the key for the dessert room?

Hamsterlady

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 10:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I know I didn't catch it in the photo above, but I thought it looked like it was hanging on the DR door handle. Am glad somebody else saw it Rubber! :)

Jpgramma

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 10:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
very interesting. Is the key on the inside of the door? or is it possibly on the outside where the Hgs could notice it?

makes me wonder if BB plans on bringing in some 'guests' that will be using the room. hmmmmmmmmmm

Hamsterlady

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 10:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
was on the outside Jpgramma....at least it looked that way to me.

Myjohnhenry

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 10:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I believe that Erika had made mention early in the season about going to the semi-finals twice in TAR (once with her brother and once with a friend) and that she then told someone connected with casting the shows that she wanted to try out for BB.

Jpgramma

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 10:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
that makes it very interesting then Hamsterlady. Keeps in theme with the HGs having to be observant about their surroundings.

Wonder how long it will take for them to notice? and what it may mean??

of course, there's always the possibility that during the lockdown, the BB crew who has to clean up the ballroom food challeenge for got it, but then, I can't see why the camera would be botherong with it.

I think it means something. Hope one of them notices it soon.

Myjohnhenry

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 10:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Upon further investigation...Erika was one of 3 executive producers of "Josh on the Road".

(Be back with the link in a minute...my browser crashed and I have to get it again)

Josh on the Road

Pengoh

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 11:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
another thing with Josh is that he is very generous to her in his weekly comments, and has put her as an 'Entertainer of the Episode' for every summary that I could see.

Seamonkey

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 11:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The only stomach turning thing is that he's writing up the episodes without revealing his connection to Erika and having just read two different summaries, yes, he indeed has cast Erika as the star. This is not good journalism.

Oh well.

Now.. is there another clue in the "55" Erika has on her shirt?? I know she said that was a message to friends. Was Josh #55 in a sport??

Other than the secret while writing biased summaries, good for them..

Oh and on TAR, both Rob and Erika know Cindy who was on a team this year. Small world.

Gina8642

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 11:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow, this is crazy. It sure explains why she's the only one not metioning her BF by name. I'm sure the producers fully know who he is, but didn't want his name mentioned. Probably because people like us would go crazy on it. LOL

I actually don't really have a problem with this. That season was sooo different from the game now, she really doesn't gain an advantage. And, as long as a person doesn't have any aspect of Mike Boogie's personality, I don't really care if a HG knows Boogie outside the house. I wish the producers were a little more honest about their casting methods, but whatever...

Tobor7

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 11:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They would not want this info to get out. Applications for future BB shows would go down because people would think, 'what is the point, all they do is take people that are somehow connected... or have connections... there are no people from the street on the show...'

Watch... this Josh thing will backfire big time. And if she was on a payroll for a show that MAY have some financial ties to CBS or ?? then there may be some other legal issues... remember "employees and their families" clauses!

Pengoh

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 11:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Do you think the DR told Robert not to talk about it? Because he doesn't seem like the type of person to keep a secret, especially if he can use it in some way to bad mouth Erika...I know he has told people he will tell them when they get out and that they will all know him, so why not tell now unless he has been told?

Gina8642

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 11:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Pengoh - I'm pretty sure he's been told to keep quiet. For exactly the reasons you've said. He's always wanting to 'tell something, but can't', etc.

I love the internet - nothing stays secret for long on here. LOL

Scorpiomoon

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 12:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, I'm confused. I went back and read many of the recent posts re: Erika and Josh. I thought Josh was gay. I also thought this was something confirmed and not just a rumor--that Josh admitted it openly.

I guess this isn't the case.

Wendo

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 12:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Onlyhuman said, "Maybe it's just that I'm sick of all of these reality people being from the same little clique. Robert and Erika have talked about Belly and Mike Booger and I've seen on Josh's website that he has hung out there before. And it's not just this show, these prople keep popping up on Survivor and TAR as well."

(snipped from above)

There was an article posted sometime back that one of the things about reality shows and the fact that there are so many now, is the pool of people is the same. The people who apply to shows are all the same. Instead of a variety of people, it's all the same people. I think that's why it's starting to feel the way you describe; that everyone knows everybody. It's like a new genre of celebrity.

On another note, I have to agree about Josh's online summaries and the lack of disclosure. He's publishing his summaries under the guise that he's impartial. He should've disclosed from the beginning that he knows Erika. Additionally, I agree that his summaries do seem biased in favor of Erika. He may be trying to be impartial, but if they are dating, that can be difficult. Had he disclosed it upfront, it would've been better. Now, imo, he loses credibility.

Crossfire

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 12:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Neat that TVCH was able to figure something out for itself, no big media or smoking gun tipoff.

Wendo

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 12:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Perhaps someone should forward it on to The Smoking Gun. LOL!

Hamsterville

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 12:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I also thought Josh was gay. There is a very gay looking young man next to him in a picture on his web site. There may be a connection between Josh and Erika but I highly doubt he is her boyfriend. He is younger than she is also.

Xarph

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 12:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Using the cached page feature of google, I found cached page referring to a picture referring to Josh and his girl friend "Erika"

The photo
http://www.joshsouzaonline.com/JoshHawaiiAlbum/images/joshha12.jpg
is missing from Josh's site while joshha1 through joshha11 still exist.

This the Cached Page

The fact that the image is missing is very incriminating.

Xarph

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 12:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sanfranjoshfan is not going to be happy about this. LOL