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Widowswalk

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 02:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I Don't really like Robert but I LOVE the outrage he seems to invoke. Of course I'm a senior citizen who likes Howard Stern, Andrew Dice Clay and the late Sam Kennison. Go figure.

Peachie

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 02:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason from BB3 didnt have kids, heck he has never even gone all the way and he got a letter last year so it isnt just one with kids that get them. I think this year the houseguests miss their families and boyfriend/girlfriends as much as any year and I agree Robert doesnt seem like a good guy (on this show I dont like him) but I did vote for him because of the little girl and I am very glad I did.

When I would read Bunny tales I could never quite figure out the butterfly thing and last night it was all cleared up, at least for me and some of my friends anyway. I think they are all deserving of news from home but only one could win and even the people in the house hoped Robert would get it and they were pretty up front about it.

I enjoyed the piece on him and his daughter last night. She is 7 and she is a beautiful little girl and I believe Robert does love this little girl, he talks about her alot.

Misslibra

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 02:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't like to watch sitcoms anymore but have watched them and if they talk the way Robert do they would be pulled off the air. Woman and Male strippers... your comparing the hatred Robert spews against Women, to Women going to see male stripper's ??! Huh ?!!

When Women go to male strip shows the last thing you would hear at a male strip show is hatred for Men. Women practically worship the Men up there stripping, so like I said huh ? ! You need to come up with another comparison that one is not working. Neither is the sitcom argument. Do you have live feeds ??

The Mike Boogie argument might work be even he didn't say vile repetitive hateful things towards Women. Robert to date have beaten all pass HG's.

Kalekona

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 02:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes i have the live feeds. And your wrong about Mike "Boogie" not only did he say them about woman but he in general felt everone but his "cool group" were below contempt.
I've heard nothing come out of Roberts mouth than the same dribble you hear just about anyplace more than two men get together. Robert is all wind.

The sitcom issue is the basic fact that you need to find one where the man isn't an idiot, incompetent, helpless, clueless and would lay down and die if not for his "woman" Many mens groups have been targeting these shows and how men are portrayed. (you sound like Roberts words are the problem and words are nothing but air unless he honestly believes them and acts on them, i haven't seen that.)
Strip clubs get very "animalistic" where woman turn men into nothing but entertainment and sexual gratifacation. How you do that can be actions as well as words.
You can try a divorce court and hear the same dribble from both men and women.
Or go to the movies. It is everywhere. Robert isn't unique nor is he even the worse offender.

Howard Stern was meantioned along with Andrew Dice Clay and Sam Kinison (who i loved by the way) all three of these men said things 20n and 30 times worse than anything Robert has said. (And get good money to do so) But Howard Stern was a loving monogomist husband (is he still?) So his actions spoke louder than his words. I haven't seen Robert act in a fashion that says he believes what he's saying.

Widowswalk

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 03:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Omg Kale, you shouldn't have mentioned Stern being a husband. lol. Now we'll have a bunch of long winded posts informing us that Stern is no longer married to the mother of his children, Sam is dead and the Dice man's career is over(like he cares- he made millions). Here it comes- lol

Pantageas

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 03:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kale, if you think the stuff that Robert says is "the same dribble you hear just about anyplace more than two men get together", you hang around the wrong men...

Kalekona

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 03:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"I hang around the wrong men"? I've been married 23 years I don't think i hang around the wrong men. I think I just have a more rational sense of reality than many of you. I was married to a sailor and spent many hours with a lot of men both married and single and i know how they talk and i know for a fact most of them don't mean it. Anymore than most woman really mean "Men can't live with them can't shoot em"

Widow- I wasn't sure about Howard but the example still works because when he was saying all that crap he WAS married and faithful. (even nice men get divorced lol) Didn't Dice just make a movie?
And did i say I liked Kinison. (the only one i liked of the three) But Stern gets brownie points because he liked Clay Aiken and gave Simon a hard time. :)

Widowswalk

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 03:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kale- Oh I'm glad, What did Stern say to Simon? I'll bet Simon didn't like it. Clay is no. one. Yes Dice has made several movies(none really good) and he seems to be a good father and husband. Of course I "got him" right away and realized he has an act in which he portrays a certain character but most women just went nuts on him which only made me laugh more. Hickory Dickory Dock....lol.

Kalekona

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 04:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't remember exactly what he said, i'll have to e-mail my daughter she'll know.
But i do remember that everyone on the "Thats the clay" board was very happy.

Meggieprice

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 04:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My husband is disgusted by Robert's remarks. No, I do not think all men talk this way when they talk about women. No man that would be my friend would do that once they passed their late teens, early twenties and know better.

Ark

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 04:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have three friends that watch the show but don't get or read the feeds and they think that Robert is the most wonderful & sensitive man they have ever seen.

Can't say as I've heard any of my male friends call women the nasty names that Robert has called women while in the house. I even have a few friends that have been or are in the armed services and I've never heard them disrespect women that way. In fact, they tend to be very protective of women in general. I think it's unfair to say that "most" men talk about women this way.

Widowswalk

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 04:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I could care less what men say. We outlive them. They're all gonna bite the big one sooner than us.

Sherri

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 04:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank you Widowswalk!!!!!!!! I really needed a laugh this afternoon - it's been one strange and stressful day :)

Widowswalk

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 04:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You're welcome Sherri.

Weinermr

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 04:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
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Sherri

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 05:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think I read recently that men gained a couple of years on their average life expectancy, but we still are in the lead and have better odds. I'll take all the help I can get!

Cricket

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 08:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm really disgusted at the way BB is portraying Robert; making him look so nice when he really isn't.

Tonight when they showed his daughter talking, it appears she does watch the show. It is not age appropriate for her. His ex-wife is beautiful and I was surprised when she said that she and Erika are the only 2 real relationships Robt has had. That explains a lot. This guy is probably very, very insecure. No wonder he thinks he needs money to 'buy' a woman.

By the way, I believe Robert stated that he knows Mike Boogie. I can understand those two knowing each other - both phony. BB needs to wide their search next year. Getting tired of the L.A. wanna be actors.

Hummingbird

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 09:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Robert's ex-wife is a beautiful woman. What did she ever see in him?

Cliotheleo

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 09:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Not only is she beautiful, but did she look a WHOLE LOT LIKE ERIKA to anyone but me?

C1mag

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 09:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hummingbird I totally agree. That little girl is being paraded on this show as his poster child and the real truth is that every time he is asked in the house what he would do with any of the money he never mentions his daughter. It's all about spending the money on partying, and women. The show has NEVER allowed the home viewer to hear his daily trash session on women in general. I don't think they have ever edited someone so bad in all four years. The TV viewer has never had the uh.. privelege of hearing the nightly trash session that the "dreamteam" turns on like a light switch.

Bb234finalist

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 09:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Not to mention he has the chance to talk to or say Hi to his daugher, or to thank her for the letter and he did neither tonight. He is so unattractive...WHAT DID THESE WOMEN SEE IN HIM? Honestly...that he can dance? Big deal!

Csnog

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 09:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm bothered by Mike Boogie, Robert and AS all knowing each other.

The 3 stooges are alive and well.

Cliotheleo

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 09:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Y'all are gonna laugh at me, but Robert has this Al Pacino thing going on. He's a bad-boy and chics dig that. And cocky! Whoo-eee! People always wonder why nice guys finish last, that's why. Women like guys who are jerks. It's just one of those great mysteries of life.

Planelady14

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 09:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I also thought his ex-wife looked alot like Erika! I think the attraction women have for Robert is that taming thing. Ya know....grab the wild ones and turn them into lambs. I have had girlfriends that only went for that type. Men don't usually talk that way in front of women....but Robert 'forgets' he is on camera and gets trashy to show off to Jee and Justin. Will be interesting to see what Robert is like without macho Justin around to compete with.

Misslibra

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 12:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I love Al Pacino and Robert is no Al Pacino. LOL But Robert can Salsa, and I enjoyed seeing him and Erika dance together the other night. He has great charisma with his salsa dancing. His daughter's Mother admitted that is how Robert gets all the Women, and that is how he got her.

Guy's if you want to get hot Women like Robert learn to do the salsa like Robert does. LOL