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Babyphat69

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Erika wins pov this week and decides to use it on jun does that mean that ali is automatically out?? i know this wont happen but if it did..how would it work?

Cinder

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Why would Erika use it on Jun. All she has to do is vote for whomever she wants out- and that person is out. No need to use the POV to "save" someone.

Busydizzle

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Erika won the POV, she could either A) not use it or B) use it, forcing Robert to nominate her. That would be ridiculous, so obviously she just wouldn't use it.

Puzzled

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Since Erika's would be the only person eligible to vote, all she has to do is vote out Ali.

Ezgoing

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Baby, she just wouldn't use the POV so that keeps the noms as they are. Since the POV winner CANNOT be nominated, she could not be put up on the block, and there's no other people to nominate. She then votes out whichever nominee SHE wants evicted, so it is a powerful POV to have.

Battlestarz

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Having a POV this week is just plain dumb

Babyphat69

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I know that she isnt going to use it and obvisouly she can vote whoever she wants but i was juss wonderin if it was a possiblity what would happen i even said i know it wouldnt happen but it was just in the back of my head

Jdel

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
POV is only important as to who does the voting out. Whoever gets it of the girls will be the voter and go to f3. if Rob gets it erika will stay the voter.

I think the two on the block aren't thinking it's dumb right now - it would save one of them straight up and let them position themselves with the woman they feel is their best bet for f2.

It actually seems to me like it's the most important veto of the game.

Rainwoman

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 07:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Erika won POV, and then used it to "save" Jun, then all Jun would do is get rid of Erika. I do not think Erika is stupid at all. She won't use it.

Battlestarz

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 07:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The power in the house is suppose to be HOH---this week HOH has no power because of the POV.

POV is not suppose to be more powerful then HOH---so I repeat POV this week is dumb

Babyphat69

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 07:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
isnt it whoever has pov can use it on sumone and is also safe?

Battlestarz

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 07:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Erika used the veto to save someone---why would she be on the block?? Isn't using the POV keep you from being put up---therefore only leaving one person to evict.

See ---POV has all the power---dumb!

Busydizzle

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 07:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Erika uses the POV on someone else, she could be nominated, right? It's not immunity unless the holder uses it for him/herself...I think. So here's the deal if:

Rob gets veto: nominations stand
Jun gets veto: uses it for herself, Erika goes up
Ali gets veto: ditto
Erika gets veto: doesn't use it; nominations stand

Nobody (including the producers) think Erika would use the veto. There's no reason to. But TECHNICALLY, she could use it on Jun or Ali and then be nominated herself.

Rainwoman

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 07:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Erika used the VETO, that would be dumb, because the VETO holder is safe from being put up if they use it, and there would be nobody else to go up against.

There has to be another twist coming.

Gina8642

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 08:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Unless something has been announced in the last few hours WE DON'T KNOW what would happen if Erika wanted to use the veto on Jun or Ali. Everything is pure speculation at this point. BB hasn't explained.

All we know is that if Erika has veto, then Jun and Ali don't.

Cliotheleo

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 08:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, y'all are driving me crazy again!!! (ha ha)

"POV is not suppose to be more powerful then HOH---so I repeat POV this week is dumb"

Who says that HOH is supposed to be more powerful than POV?

NO ONE has "ALL" the power ....... that won't happen until HOH next week. The HOH made (or will make) the nominations and the forth person remaining decides who goes. It's a group thing.

Kalekona

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 08:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually AS has said he doesn't want POV to have more power than HOH as it makes HOH pointless.

Battlestarz

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 08:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Clio----ditto what Kona says. The show's producers have said on Many occasions that HOH is to be the positions that holds the most power. This POV makes this week's HOH pointless

Crossfire

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 09:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Does this really matter? These are the dog days of BB, anything that add even a hint of turmoil is good for us.

Battlestarz

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 09:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Interesting twists are fine---dumb ones are dumb

Crossfire

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 09:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I like it.

Cliotheleo

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 09:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"the positions that holds the most power."

Yes, but there is a difference between "most of the power" and "ALL the power" which is what you keep saying, right?

Crossfire I agree, let them turn on CNN and allow them to call everyone they know if it makes anything more interesting.

Charvie

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 10:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think if we are going to have POV than there should have not been nominations this week and the HOH contest should have been after the POV winner was determined. Or he should have had the platinum veto the entire game, because this upserps the hoh's power just like the platinum would have.

Crossfire

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 10:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The HOH got to do his hohey things as always. He nominated two, which is all the hoh gets to do any other week.

Kaili

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 10:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Except last week- Jun didn't get to do much in terms of challenge explanations but she got a trip out of the deal! He still has power though- he's the only one 100% safe.

Eeyoreslament

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 10:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This debate is silly.

The HOH still has more power than the POV, because the HOH ALWAYS has the decision of WHO to put up. While the POV person has SOME power to take people off, they still have no control over who goes up.

Now, as the game plods on...the POV is more important, because it gives themself immunity, as well as saves a person.

Battlestarz, I don't think that if YOU were nominated by Robert this week, and then had a chance to win POV, you would thinkn it is so "dumb". This is a very important POV comp for Jun or Ali, because it saves them.

However, I do see your point in that the HOH doesn't decide much this week after the POV comp. However he DID guarantee himself immunity this week and a spot into the final 3 no matter WHAT happens with POV or who stays or goes this week. So in that sense it is a better position to be in for the week.

Cameltoes

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 11:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Totally agree about the plantinum veto Charvie. Maybe they are rethinking their belief that taking too much power from the HOH is a bad thing because I see this week as a platinum veto week anyway. Since Golden veto was the last Veto last season, I would not be at all surprised to see the platinum veto show up next season despite what Shapiro has said.