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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Where's Jack's FBI training???: Archive through July 28, 2003

Rob_Robe

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 03:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ex-Fbi ... i thought this guy would kick butt ... but apparently i hear ... he shaking and scared ... come on, how we expect you to win Jack?

"That's a fact, Jack!" - Bill Murray "Stripes"

Seanflynn2003

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 04:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Rob

If you've been following the news recently (the 9/11 report) you wouldn't be surprised that a life time FBI agent isn't necessarily the sharpest tack out there.

The FBI has been in decline for a long time (if it ever was what its PR claimed it was - publicity along with blackmail was what J Edgar Hoover was good at), and is more of a decrepit bureaucracy than a cutting edge agency.

Penpoint

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 04:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack's very good at analyzing character and strategizing. Those talents may have been developed in the FBI; however, a man who is so much older than the rest of the house has very little chance in this game.

Twiggyish

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 04:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Agreed Penpoint =(

Xarph

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 04:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sean, right on. The FBI has almost become a liability to the USA. That agency needs some fix'en and real soon now.

Bastable

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 04:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack's main tactic is to say reassuring things to people in order to get them to spill more beans:

"I understand what you're saying."
"Yes, you're in a hard place to be."
"You did the right thing."
and so on...

In true FBI style, he doesn't dig for information. He sits and waits for it to arrive in his lap.

Weinermr

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Forget the FBI. We need Columbo in the house.

"Oh Jun. Just one more thing..."

Maris

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack is a master of the cliches and his read on people is so far off and that is how he ended up on the block. Then he explained it away by saying the HOH is thinking with her panties.

Philamom

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think Jack is "shaking and scared" -- remember that those were the words one of the other houseguests used to describe him ... I think it was Justin or Robert, but I can't remember.

Anyway, a man of 50-something who served in the FBI isn't going to start "shaking" over this game. So far, I have seen very little emotion from Jack ... in fact, he seems extremely cool under pressure. So I think whoever used those words to describe him was greatly exaggerating.

Spunky

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
But he's not showing great thinking, he's more prepared to go along with everyone's thinking without putting forth what he would do and how.

He should be seeing things coming but all he has figured out so far that Justin was a power in the house. No duh??

Costacat

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL @ Maris!!! If that latter statement was one of his cliches, it was spot on!

I'm still thinking that Jack is out of his element here. But I'm holding off final thoughts until he reveals his hand. Then again, he may not HAVE a hand to reveal! <sigh>

Philamom

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree, Spunky, I'm not impressed with Jack's skills, I thought they'd be better since he was in the FBI. I just took exception to the "shaking and scared" description. It doesn't fit Jack, and I was just pointing out that it was someone else's description of him.

Tobor7

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm keeping hope that Jack has a great plan that we just can't see yet.

Seanflynn2003

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack's plan might include having his old FBI buddies digging up dirt on other HGs that BB somehow missed and letting CBS know <g>

Maris

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Rofl Sean. thats the ticket.

Sanfranjoshfan

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
FBI Agent Jack in the BB4 house....uh, is this a spinoff from the X-Files? :)

Spunky

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And he got Dana all wrong... he said she was the Double Agent when in fact Jun was the one!! (Now, of course she no longer is)

Saggkl

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I believe that Jack said a week ago that Justin was the one that had to go.

Laisey

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have a different take on Jack. I think he may be one of those people actually there for the experience and as an observer. He is a published writer and may be thinking of doing some type of article on reality shows or even going into fiction and writing a book with a character who is on a reality show.

Ark

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You know, all kinds of specialists are in the FBI, linguists, accountants & computer techs. Jack didn't have to be Elliot Ness to be in the FBI.

Maris

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
All I know that he has published is a story about his dog in the Readers Digest. Has he written other stuff?

Ketchuplover

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought F.B.I. meant "female body inspector"

Laisey

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ark, from some of his conversations, he was at one time a field agent. He also was a recruiter for the FBI, I believe it was his last position before retirement.

Tishala

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, he had a piece in some respectable place like the NYer or Atlantic Monthly. It was about the dearth of black women in the FBI and why the FBI had to be more aggressive in recruiting them.

Maris

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ty Tishala, I did not know that I only saw him talk about his dog in the Readers Digest story.