Time Delay on the "live" feeds
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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Time Delay on the "live" feeds

Justareader

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 09:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Check out my post from 7/31 12:43am in the LFP's.

Now - I use BBlive to watch the feeds and keep it on quad cam and will open another bblive window to catch things when its quiet on the quad cam(or just to see what is going on)

Last night I had quad and cam 3 open. I noticed that 3 went to FOTH but was seeing Justin on the quad cam 3 and then FOTH. it all seemed weird and that their was some weirdness going on. So I watched...

Well I would watch the cam 3 and (after not scientifically timing it) I saw that the quad was 30 seconds behind the Cam 3.

So, I concluded that there is an (at least) 30 second delay that we would not know about if not for BBLive!

I believe Bohawkins was talking about this kind of thing when talking about the HOH being ever so slightly rigged for certain folks to win.

Some questions:
Has anyone using RP on multiple computers noticed anything similar?

Has anyone using BBLive on multiple computers (or haveing multiple screens open) noticed anything similar?

Cliotheleo

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 09:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Reader ........ well, can't answer too many of your questions, but do want to thank you for pointing me in the direction of the BBLive software. I didn't know anything about it until just now.

I'm noticing a delay, but it's more like 3 seconds, not 30.

Max

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 09:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Draheid can probably give you the more technical explanation, but what you saw could be due to network buffering. "Real time" when it comes to streaming video can be slightly different depending on the buffering that's occurring. A delay like what you describe is not inconceivable. Doesn't necessarily mean that anything is being manipulated, it's just a transmission/internet issue.

Wargod

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 09:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I've noticed while sitting in chat and watching and discussing the feeds that some people are a few seconds ahead of me. Kinda nice for FOTH since they give me enough warning to hit mute, lol. And I believe what we decided at the time was because I'm on dial up, I'm a bit slower than those on cable or dsl.

R151996

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 09:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
No matter what the US delay is, it beats the UK delay of 15-20 minutes on the live feeds streamed both on the internet and on satellite channel E4.

UK BB also used RealOne for its internet feeds, and E4 is now airing one US feed on a 16-hour delay to make BB time match UK time the following day.

Bonzacat

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Reader -- I am running the feeds on two computers (one Mac OS9 w/ RealPlayer, one Mac OSX w/ RealOne Player) and the OS9 feeds are about 5 seconds ahead. Go Figure.

Laisey

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I just tried opening additional BBLive's for the competition. I had one on quad and two on single cam feeds. Using the FOTH's as a guide, I found that of the two single cams, one was very slightly behind the other. However, the quad cam was way, way, behind the single cams. I have no technical expertise whatsoever, but now you know you are not alone.

Gina8642

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It is just a tranmission issue. I used to work at a large corporation. They used to stream important speaches announcement to RealPlayer at everyone's desktops. If folks put the sound up, you could hear that everyone's transmission was coming in at a slightly different speed. If your player communicated, you could get behind, up to several minutes. Those speaches were only being streamed to several thousand people in a local area. By the time you send this all over the world, I imagine speeds could vary quite a bit.

Justareader

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 05:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for all the info guys. I guess that makes more sense than some kind of conspiracy.

Lurknomore

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 06:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
My BBLive is down...interesting to know others are working. Do I have to change the URLS? LOL maybe I'll have to hunt down Draheid too. Poor guy is gonna have a busy morning.