You know, BB should totally turn the tables on Jee
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You know, BB should totally turn the tables on Jee
Naja | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 05:44 am     I would like to add-- I believe Julie would have "specifically" given the instructions "Do not discuss anything from this room until I announce the winner hours after nominations tomorrow" if they were not allowed to talk about it until then. |
Ocean_Islands | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 05:58 am     Jee said something about he 'was going to eat PBJ too." I think he should be prevented from doing that. |
Wgm | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 07:33 am     Dke1212, the veto competion has been after the nominations. No one has been nominated yet and yet the HOH gets the veto before he puts up his nominees. That is not fair to the HG's. |
Dutchlizzy | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 07:36 am     I don't understand this: she announced that the POV winner doesn't have to eat PB&J, but she's not going to announce the winner until after noms, so would the winner of the POV have to PB&J until the announcement? Is Jee breaking the rules by eating real food because he's not officially the POV winner yet, until Julie announces? For all he knows, someone else took the deal too and is denying it now, hoping that if it comes does to a random drawing, their name won't be picked. If someone else took the deal, would HOH have to eat PB&J too? |
Justalittlebean | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 07:47 am     It seems the rules are made to be broken for this group of people. Does anyone have a list of rules they received when they arrived in the house? Rules regarding spliting the money, etc. The so called "Dream Team" is still talking about spliting the money. I thought this was against the rules. What I understood, they were not to discuss anything said about the veto bribe until Julie announced it. Jee did say it is only for a week. And by the way, this broad is great, I've been to other boards and they are so sleezy and just plain stupid. Keep up the good work. |
Naja | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 07:56 am     DutchLizzy...You just made I think the strongest point. Julie said to the HG's as they sat on the couch waiting for the results "That means, starting at midnight, everybody but the veto winner will be on a PB&J diet." So there is no way it could have been kept hidden until the announcement of winner after Noms. |
Vealprince | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 09:10 am     Why does this board keep yelling 'penalty nominiation' all the time when there is no real proof that any such thing even exists? Has it ever been used? BB consistenly has no muscle behind any of its rules, etc. Just as I wouldn't blame a child who broke the rules all the time when the parents never follow through on consequences, I can't blame the HG's for the same reason. I'm just amazed at how many posters actually think BB will use a 'penalty nomination' when that sort of thing will NEVER happen. It would be fun to see a new twist happen because of the mutual confessions of 'the deal'... but I a penalty nomination won't be part of that twist. Personally, I'd like to see Jee be the only one on PBJ for the week but that won't punish the other HG's who are also guilty of violating the rule. |
Whit4you | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 09:13 am     Well at this point BB probably knows should they ever impliment a penalty nom there will be outrage by the fans of that particular houseguest no matter what the hg did wrong. Everyone would say that isn't fair because they didn't give X a penalty nom when they did _______. So BB really has dug itself into a hole on this. |
Spunky | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 09:36 am     Okay, it all happened on Thursday, right? Julie stayed in LA an extra night so that on Thursday she offered the bribe and didn't nominations happen the next day, on Friday?? That means that Julie stayed there another night to announce that Jee was the POV winner, but she already told them that one or more took the bribe. What do you expect that they wouldn't talk about it?? It's absurd. I think Julie meant to keep quiet until she told them that there was one or more winners. The discussions on who took the bribe started by all of them before Jee had to reveal himself and this before the nominations the next day. And don't forget that Thursday at midnight the pbj started and since Jee could eat normal food they would have guessed it was him, but he was practically forced to reveal himself and promise to eat pbj too (Now we know that he hides in HOH to eat fruits and snacks whenever he likes). |
Eeyoreslament | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 09:47 am     I think this whole conversation is moot, under these circumstances. Jee is Hoh, AND POV. Had someone ELSE won POV, then there would be more need for secrecy, so as NOT to influence Jee's nominations. However, because Jee was the one who won, it changes nothing in nomination strategy. Had Erika or Jack won POV, there would be more need to keep it secret, and the "twist" would have worked out to be mildly entertaining. Come nomimation day, Jee would put up Erika and Jack, and then one of them would laugh in hais face, and then Ali would go up. Hence the need for the secrecy. If Jee KNEW one of Erika or Jack had POV, he may change who he puts up. (He is not the best thinker, esp now that Justin is gone) I could see him putting Erika and Ali up if Jack had POV, then Jack vetoes Erika off, and then what? DUH!! Poor Jee!! However, all of these imaginings are useless as well, as the TWIST managed to come out with the most boring possible outcome. |
Sherbabe | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 10:05 am     Who came in 2nd place in the last veto competition. |
Spunky | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 10:17 am     Which veto competition? Eyeor.. good thinking.. it would have been much more interesting if someone else other than Jee took the bribe.. I still believe that they would have known soon enough when they started going by elimination, I didn't, I didn't either, me neither, hey, not me man! are you kidding, me on another pbj week, no way, I'm not that desperate, and that would lead to the one who took the bribe... UNLESS...the one who took the bribe was smart enough to lie about it.. saying, no I didn't.. and then they would have all thought that nobody took it until Julie said that there was indeed one winner... and then the one who lied would keep on lying and driving the other nuts and speculations would have been endless... but Jee fold undre pressure and blew his cover too soon.. |
Sfbaychic | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 10:28 am     What if Jee hadn't taken the POV... noone would have had it then? |
Seanflynn2003 | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 10:28 am     Because Jee won, it made no difference to the game, ergo no need for penalty. If one of the other HGs had won, BB feared that knowing who it was would have affected Jee's choice for being on the block. They wanted it to be a mystery. Since Jee won, it didn't matter. BB acted wisely under the circumstances. |
Texasdeb | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 10:35 am     Jee wanted to secure his noms & actually felt Ja & Er prob. realized they were going up & one or the other would take the same offer. Where Jee went over the line was in the Knome bashing. Jee's power trip has gone TOO far & unless BB changes things, he can't go for HOH Wed. & he will have the biggest target. I see the girls wanting Jee out more than Robert (This just tops the cake). |
Seanflynn2003 | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 10:39 am     So these things are self-regulating, hence no need for BB action |
Gemma120in2002 | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 10:43 am     I agree with you Ocean_Islands. I think that Jee should be made to eat regular food. Not only should he be eating regular food, it should be catered food delivered from at least three star restaraunts. The meals should be amazing and include wine, specialty coffees, a variety of dessert selections, and all must be eaten at the dining room table with the other houseguests. This would definately slam it home for the other houseguests. |
Dan | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 11:24 am     Every thing happen on Thursday. First, they had the twist competition that turn out to be the veto competition (normaly takes place on Friday). The HG kept it quiet until the preliminary announcement by Julie. At that point they didn't know how many of them took the offer. Normaly, Jee should have made his nominations without knowing how many of them were in list for the veto. When they entered the DR for the veto comp. they had a small box with them that we never saw being used. Those boxes probably contain a ball or card with a number that would have been revealed in case of a tiebreaker, thus revealing the winner of the veto. Now, because Jee opened his mouth and because the other confirmed that they didn't took the offer, Jee was able to make his nominations knowing full well that he was the only veto winner. Had he not known if there were others, probably Jack and/or Erika, that could be holding a chance to win the veto, his nominations could have been different. In all case, the beginning of the PB&J was only going to happen at midnight that day, well after (6 hours) the nominations and the final announcement by Julie of how many of them took the offer, for how long and ultimatly, who did it. Would the fact that the veto holder was revealed before the nominations changed the nominations and eventualy the course of the game, we will never know. But if a penalty nomination must be assess, that's why. PS, we saw on TV Jee receiving his final instructions from Julie as the last segment of that sequence. Don't forget that this was all edited. Most probably, they went in each in turn and stayed in the DR until they pass through all the elements of the offer (till the end, for two weeks and finaly for one week). We saw Jee last but for all we know he may have gone first, or third or fifth. We must assume that when Jee finish his turn, Julie didn't know at that time that nobody else would take the offer. So we must assume that all HG received the same stern instructions about not talking about what occured in the DR. Is Jee the only one to blame, you be the judge (or should we say, the producers be the judge). |
Ketchuplover | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 11:26 am     I love you Gemma |
Mrose4243 | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 11:31 am     sfbaychic, I have asked the same question! Wonder what would've happened if no one took the deal?!! |
Seanflynn2003 | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 11:58 am     Obviously Jee was under pressire, but he might have asked the question, since Julie said this was her final offer AND this was the PoV competition, whether if no one took the offer there would be no PoV this week. If that were so, he could have had his cake and had the others eat theirs too. Now we know he assumed that someone else was taking the offer, but at least if he had known (and based on what Julie said, this was the case) that this was a possibility. |
Sunshyne4u | Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 12:41 pm     But the whole silly situation has been changed yet again....when Jee won the Luxury food competition as well he guaranteed himself even MORE food. Jee swore to the others he would eat PB&J with them......he is eating regular food on the live feeds. Since he allowing a different HG each day to SHARE in his lux comp win he feels entitled to EAT what he wants. Every year we all complain that BigBrother doesnt enforce their own rules. Now I notice a paranoid Jee has been actively reading the "rule book" provided.......wonder if he thinks he might be in trouble? |
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