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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: What were Jun's parting words?: Archive through August 08, 2003

Mssheila

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 03:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I missed most of what Jun said to Dana because right at that moment, my husband decided to talk to me about something totally unrelated to BB, and I missed most of what Jun said. Grrrrrr doesnt he know that I'm BUSY? LOL! I'm so addicted, it's funny. Anyway, if anyone knows her parting words to Dana, I thought she threw a slam in there, but I couldnt hear it! Can anyone direct me to where I could find it, or if anyone know, on the off chance, basically what she said, that would be great. I would love to see a transcript of what I thought she said. Thanks for filling me in on missing yet another important thing...... Grrrrrrr Sheila LOL!

Maris

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 03:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The best I can recall is she told Dana nobody wanted her in the house anymore. Jun just looked really petty and bitchy. She did the same thing to Michele so I am not sure what the purpose is in her good bye speeches because she doesnt help herself. She scored some great points for herself if she is in the final two. lol. I think Dana was pretty shocked but she handled it well..

Cricket

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 05:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Mssheila, my husband does the same darn thing; always at a crucial point. That's why I have to tape everything.

I couldn't believe Jun's goodbye to Dana. I too think Dana was a little taken aback. Her eyes just got a little bigger (the shock of it) but she kept her facial expression the same. I don't get what the heck Jun is doing. Everyone's friend in the house and then zaps them when they leave.

Maris

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 05:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yep, great way to influence the votes. What a stupid move.

Qt3141592

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 05:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here's what Jun said: "I don't think anyone else in this house, at this point, really wants you here anymore. At the same time, we did shared a lot of laughs. Just take this game for what it is, as a game and really cast aside any personal feelings you had or hurt you had and just move on from here."

Puzzled

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It was nasty and condescending.

Dana really didn't need that sophomoric "just move on" psychobabble.

Queenfish

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 05:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Kingfish decided to talk right when julie was naming the evictee. I told him if he did that again, I would have a yard sale and sell all of the fishing equipment. If its superbowl sunday, I leave him alone so he don't miss any. Silly man.

Kappy

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 08:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
And here I was beginning to like Jun better and thinking she wasn't the self-centered ------ I took her to be in the beginning. Sigh. But then again, I think Dana herself realized the environment in that house was not compatible with her personality. Either way, I hope she realizes she's lucky to be out. But I also have to admit that I feel sorry for those to be sequestered with her for the next month.

Vealprince

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 08:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought it was a pretty honest message for a change. Considering that Dana and Jun were a bit on the outs the last days...with Jun upset that Dana was lying daily to her about 'campaigning' it seemed 'real'. Why aren't people talking about how fake Alison's speach was?

Lovedana

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 08:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The only statement I found questionable was Jun's first statement. Did she mean that she was the only one who didn't want to see Dana leave? In that case, she was indirectly telling Dana: "See, everyone wanted you out, yet I cared about you and was sacrificed for you." That's a brilliant way of securing a vote if Dana fell for it. Or did she mean that she together with others desperately wanted Dana out?

I'm inclined to believe that she meant the latter and may have intentionally made her statement ambiguous. If she left it ambiguous, then she stood a chance of Dana thinking it was the former. In this case, Dana didn't seem convinced of the former, especially with Dana's shocked reaction. Jun's nature makes me suspect the latter. She has her way with words. LOL!

The rest of her statements, however, don't sound vicious to me. They are decent things to say. Only her demeanor would change the significance of the words and shed a different light.

Kaili

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 08:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't get why they have to show the mean ones. They don't show the goodbye messages from everyone (unless they do off during commercial). If those were the nicest ones they had to show, that's sad.

Maris

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 08:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe they showed it as a way of manipulating the final vote. Certainly, if Jun is in the final with Jee or Justin she will be out of luck with Dana. Dana will ponder that line for a long time and I think she will opt not to vote for Jun.

Grooch

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 08:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
We have no idea what was said before or after that little bit that she said or the way they manipulated it.

Remember, these HG's are going to be sequestered together in the 2nd house where they will still be filmed.

I think AS wants to have as much drama in the second house that he can show on tv because there really isn't much to show in the 1st house.

Just imagine the confrontation we will see on tv when Dana confronts Jun on this, either in the house or if Jun is a final 2, at the final vote.

This is all propaganda.

Grooch

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 08:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, you posted while I was typing. Yup, I agree with you. lol!

Crazydog

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 09:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Jun's statement was very honest. I wish more of the houseguests would be as honest. I don't think these goodbye videos have much of an effect on how people cast the final vote. Last year Danielle always said nice things to people in the videos, and look where that got her.

Especially since this year, they will be sequestered and they will see tapes of the show and perhaps not much else. I'm not sure how long grudges based on two or three lines will be held. More than likely, the evictees will form opinions as each new evictee arrives in the second house.

Naja

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 09:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I was more disgusted with Allison going on and on about what wonderful person she thinks Dana is. She doesn't think any such thing..LOL I enjoyed Jun's honest comments, while I caught myself rolling my eyes at every work Ali said...LOL I don't really think Jun was as blunt as they made her sound. I would surely bet they used creative editing and just picked the worst 2 or 3 sentences to string together, which out of context sounded pretty mean.

Kaili

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 09:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Not that Erika's "I told you so" was that much better. It's not that I don't think she should have ever said it if she wanted to- but some things just don't seem appropriate for goodbye messages. Whatever- their choice to say what they want. And that line fot well with her Tuesday comments to Jack about how she warned Dana (when they were talking about no one listening to their guidance).

Grooch

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 09:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Who even knows if that really was part of Jun's goodbye message. It could have been taken from a red room diary entry from a week or two before, for all we know.

Kaili

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 09:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The reason I would think it was a goodbye speech is Jun spoke as if she was speaking to Dana rather than about her. "I don't think anyone else in this house, at this point, really wants you here anymore" as opposed to "I don't think anyone else in this house, at this point, really wants HER here anymore"- But who knows- not me!

Creampuff

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 10:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I never thought I would feel as I do now about Jun. She was one of my favorites. What she said in her goodbye to Dana could have been edited and for some of the reasons others have stated, I don't think so.

Ya' know, there are people who get so caught up in having a great need to get back at someone they don't think of the ramifications beyond that point. They lash out for whatever their immediate reasons are . . . and probably experience some sort of consequence after rethinking what they've done. If that's so, and if I were her, I would have to be wondering what sort of position I have placed myself in!

Time will tell.

Vealprince

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 01:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dana isn't going to sit around and ruminate about one line in a goodbye tape. She is going to have NOTHING but time to sit and contemplate her whole experience. I doubt it will affect the vote one way or another. If anything, Jun is ahead with Dana because she is the one HG who didn't cast a vote for her. Remember, the J3 failed to save her and she really thought they owed that to her. I'm sure she will grow more angry about that.

Kaili

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 01:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wonder if Dana knows who has HOH this week. Do they let the evictees watch the HOH comp when they come out of the house?

Maris

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 01:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It was a unanimous vote against Dana. Jun voted against her.

Vealprince

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 01:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The nominees and HOH don't vote.

The vote was 6-0. Erika, Jack, Nathan, Jee, Justin, Robert = 6.

Maris

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 01:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
yep sorry about that Veal, I forgot. lol