C1mag | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 11:44 pm     I thought someone said that when you sign on for this thing you give up all rights so why would they ask Scotts approval? I just think that it's odd. The gay assumption vs freaking out because ya got the warts seems like a no brainer. Go with the warts for some tv time LOL |
Whit4you | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 11:45 pm     What comes around goes around. Personally I do not think Jun is fat and it really bugs me to read on here and see that show that others are implying she's fat. I'm about the same size as her and I'd give anything to have the confidence to wear a two piece bathing suit even in my own dang house, let-alone in public or on national TV. So she says alot of mean things about others, perhaps thats because she's been being bashed all her life for being 'fat' - Korean and so on. So others justify being mean and hateful to her or about her because she is. My momma taught me two wrongs don't make a right, and if people feel good about themselves stooping to her level, and putting down the rest of us who are her size or bigger then more power to you. As far as Nate goes, same thing - what comes around goes around. He's clearly not learned what most of us have learned - and hopefully this will teach him a valuable lesson. His folks may learn one as well. I think he opened himself up to this 'rumor' by signing up for BB and bringing up gay gay gay so many times himself. I think anything THEY bring up in the house is open season for the show and the net (like all the things Krista herself brought up with the exception of anything relating to her daughter since her daughter was a minor) I don't think someone being called 'gay' is nearly as offensive, as many of the other things I've seen people called on that show, the Gerry Pervert thing comes to mind. My only concern would be if he is indeed a closeted gay - then this would be cruel - but a closeted gay who really doesn't want to 'come out' probably shouldn't be signing up for a 3 month 24/7 reality game show. |
Snee | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 11:45 pm     i agree, bastable. |
C1mag | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 11:48 pm     Man so many good points cause what Whit says is true. Ya probably don't wanna come on this thing with little secrets out there waiting to be told. If he is gay just remember my brother told me all along that the man was gay. Why then would a gay dude be so anti gay on the internet? Is it some psychological thing? |
Kaili | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 11:52 pm     Ummm....Ali was speculating that Nate is gay. That's not really "outing" him- it's her giving an opinion. I have seen people and speculated about the same thing. She was having a "private" (whatever that is in the BB house) conversation with an ex-boyfriend about her thoughts and reasons for her thoughts. Yeah, he probably won't like it but it's not as if he told her in confidentiality that he is gay and she went and told Justin and CBS went and broadcast it. I guess- I mean I don't like Ali and I don't like Nate. Nate is disgusting me more and more and more come to think of it. I just don't get the uproar about the whole gay thing. Well, I do get the uproar because it's a sensitive issue for a lot of people and I get that people think it's wrong of CBS to air it. Is there that much difference from a tabloid making statements about people (like the Tom Cruise thing mentioed earlier) though...really? So CBS aired Ali's opinion and slanted the piece a bit using different footage. He'll live- he'll deal with it. And anyone who turns on him or whatever because of the mere thought that Nate *might* be gay (insert sarcasm here: in Alison's highly experienced opinion due to ice skating and pageants)- then basically...how can I put this lightly? I'll just say that's their problem, although the words I'm actually thinking are probably more in line with Dana's vocabulary. Ahhhh... my points simply summarized are that Nate will just have to deal with it- Ali didn't make a factual announcement but rather stated her opinion- and I'll add one more point here regarding Nate's parents/friends/etc. Don't you (the reader- not anyone specific) think that they should feel they know him better than Ali (doesn't matter if he is or isn't, if they believe he is or isn't, if he's been fooling them or not) and form their own opinions. They should be able to see it for what it is, blow it off, and get on with it. It's not the end of the world. Okay, I'm done now. Carry on all |
Whit4you | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 11:56 pm     Well - this has been an interesting read, I'll have to peek back at the 101 things said about Roddy on last years show and see how many of those outraged about this "He's gay" speculation, and see how many were outraged over all the things they accused Roddy of being last year. <grin> SanFran you are making some very very excellent points, take care |
Bluerose | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 11:56 pm     I'm exhausted. Like Colonial Klink at this point I know nothing. Is Nate a homophile? Probably. Is Nate a racist? Probably. Was I stupid to defend Nate and Ali all last week? Probably. I will go on record as saying Im still glad Dana is leaving. |
Crossfire | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 11:56 pm     Hmmm, I wonder if Ali telling Justin that is a way of telling him that she has not been having sexual relations with that man. Maybe for personal, or strategy reasons. |
Sunshyne4u | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 11:59 pm     I am SHOCKED!! there are hundreds of posts to read here and I only read the first 75 but NO ONE MENTIONED the real reason Jun belly looked so big in that montage.....SHE HAD her period!!!!! REMEMBER>>?? Any woman here will tell you that the abdominal bloating and water retention can add 10 lbs at least. Yes, Jun's face looked bigger in some of those pics, but once again, the water retention bloats out your face as well. This was CRUEL editing...she may legitimately have gained a few pounds but the Before/ After pics looked like me the day before period and the day I start period. I can gain 10-14 lbs of water in a DAY. |
Kaili | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 12:00 am     I think Ali is probably a really gossipy girl and likes to talk about people- Justin is the only one she knows from the real world and feels comfortable doing this with because he probably spent whatever amount of time they were together listening to her talking about people. |
Bluerose | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 12:04 am     Thanks for sharing, Sun. LOL |
Sunshyne4u | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 12:08 am     Is it not true>? Just curious.. are none of you women? I just feel sorry for Jun and women who have other people immediately think the weight is on PERMANENTLY! I actually had someone at work pat my belly and ask when I was due!! Seriously LOL They really thought I was pregnant. |
C1mag | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 12:08 am     Sun I think someone covered Juns Aunt Flo visiting as a reason for some bloat. It's in here somewhere. It's just there is a lot to read. They termed it... OTR.. At first I didn't know what that meant but then figured it out. Picture me saying.. Otter? What the hell does otter have to do with Jun being bloated? hahahahaha Anway, someone has mentioned the reason for the bloat. |
C1mag | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 12:09 am     Dang Sun they thought you were preggers? That is some serious bloat goin on.. |
Spunky | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 12:11 am     Exactli Kaili... Ali expressed an opinion and everyone is saying why it must be so. She was portrayed as a liar by the editors and yet they showed Justin buying the lie and never discounting it as just another lie by Ali. It was okay to be a bit, I wouldn't say cruel, but naughty with some of the editing but to level things off they should have shown the other side of the medal, for example a comment by Nate that he likes girls (he was just telling Jee about his new girlfriend, why not put that in there). Anyway, this whole issue created by Ali's big mouth is irrelevant to the game and Nate couldn't care less.. he's out to get the money. |
Bluerose | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 12:11 am     Well, when I'm on my period....Ah hell, never mind. |
Koh | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 12:13 am     Do you hope that a rumor starts in the house that Erika is Korean. She deserves it since she made that remark about Jee. Karma demands it!!! Then the rumor could be aired on the show and people in Erika's hometown would believe it. |
C1mag | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 12:14 am     I'm just glad I'm a guy. Don't have to shave If I don't want. No harness called a bra to bind me... I'm a happy camper and I know I'd be a big ol jerk if I had the cramps. |
C1mag | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 12:15 am     But Koh it's ok to be Korean |
Battlestarz | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 12:17 am     sunshye---water retention! Ya, I use that excuse too when I know I've gained some weight. But that ain't no water retention on Jun, that is earned poundage--but she is a tiny person, just a few pounds can really show on her. And don't forget she just lost 80 lbs, so she has hungry fat cells just waiting to bulk up |
Kaili | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 12:17 am     I guess it mighht help if I watched the show- I saw the whole conversation on the feeds, but haven't bothered watching tonight's show yet. Based on what I'm reading here and what I saw of the actual conversation...that's what I think. Probably (maybe) they will counter that segment with something else later (be it an interview or a segment of something they have or will edit together). Especially if the reaction here is an indication of the response CBS is getting to tonights show. |
Whit4you | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 12:18 am     But C1Mag it could ruin her life, what if her parents believe it? |
Sunshyne4u | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 12:18 am     LOL I saw OTR somewhere and had NO IDEA what it meant. Thx for the info ROTFL |
C1mag | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 12:19 am     hahahahaha whit you are cracking me up here. I guess her family would shun her. They won't have none of that under their roof. |
Redstar | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 12:20 am     I was gonna make a comment to C1 about letting me kick him in the crotch and let's see how glad he is that he's a man, but I thought the better of it since it was a joke, but you can't read tone of voice. See, self editing works! (I also wanted to say buzzard's crotch, but that's a whole different thread.) |