A sampling of comments from the Brits after seeing our own BB4 TV show
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A sampling of comments from the Brits after seeing our own BB4 TV show
Frannie | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:02 am     Although we get to vote for who to evict/win, our choices are restricted to who the HMs nominate.This sometimes leads to HMs getting evicted who we'd rather keep in. Also, the demographic for voting public seems to be 12 year old girls - consequently anyone who doesn't look like a member of a boyband gets evicted. BBUSA is far superior to BBUK - not least because it doesn't try and swndle money out of the public at every given moment (premium rate phonelines etc.)Surprisingly, your HGs seem far more articulate than those in UK, despite looking a little plastic. I haven't seen any of the previous BBUSA's but I would have thought that the public's input in the final choice of winner would benefit the game. Do you ever end up with a winner who is the lesser of various evils and not someone who is actually very nice? Not that nice should be the name of the game but, well, you know... Finally, do you get psychiatric analysis of the HGs? Where they tell you about their body language and stuff? We get that and it's probably the most interesting part of the show. And seriously, is Julie Chen a replicant? What did she do before BB? |
Ladyxanax | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:07 am     Spunky, over here the term Yanks is often used when referring to Americans because alot of Brits don't know what it actually means. I think it's meant in an affectionate way, the same way some Americans call us Limeys. You have to remember that alot of people think anyone from the UK is English! |
Maris | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:11 am     Frannie, I guess BB2 came closest to the lesser of two evils. Neither one of the two finalists were nice people but Will (the winner) was hysterically funny and he tormented the second place winner. It was probably my favorite BBUSA. As far as the psychological analysis of the HGs, we usually just sit back and watch them melt down. We had some emotionally-challenged in years past. BB2 was the best collection of misfits of all. We had Nicole who frequently cried to the cameras for more Xanax (tranquilizers), Krista who had a bit of a drinking problem she would sneak to the storage room at night and drink cough medicine, Bunky who cried on command over the littlest thing and was very very needy, Will the likeable sociopath . This year we had Scott, dont need to explain him, Last year's cast broke the records for arrest records (quite a few driving while intoxicated arrests and I think one shoplifting). One thing about BBUSA, Nice doesn't always win the game but it is entertaining. |
Naja | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:11 am     Hello Frannie, Julie Chen is one of the many regular hosts of the CBS Early Show. It is a 2 hour morning news(and talk) show that also contains entertainment news besides the world and local current events. |
Cliotheleo | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:15 am     <<<Do you ever end up with a winner who is the lesser of various evils and not someone who is actually very nice?>>> In some ways that applied to BB2 winner Will, but of course he was evil in a GOOD way. But I think the scenario you're describing could very well happen this year. Let's do the math... HGs who are nice: 3 Jack Erika Jee HGs who are (somewhat) evil: 5 Dana Jun Ali Nate Robert (Justin doesn't really fit into either category, I mean he's a nice guy, but he IS a threat) <<<Finally, do you get psychiatric analysis of the HGs?>>> We did the first season, but not now. I don't think there's time in the shows for it. Now the only psychiatric analyses there are of the HGs are the ones they recieve after being ejected from the house for pulling knives or throwing chairs. |
Scorpiomoon | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:20 am     Heh heh heh! I loved reading those posts. The British are so cool--they have such a biting and intelligent sense of humor! Here's what I want to know: The same production company that had originated the BB concept did BB1 in the US but then Arnold Shapiro took over starting with BB2. Is the original production company still doing BB in the UK and other countries with the exception of the US? Is that maybe why the Brits are bored--because the team doing the show is the same and not changing the format at all? |
Frannie | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:23 am     Thinking about it, you don't really need the psych analysis because nobody really hides their feelings anyway - which is refreshing. The UK HMs are always saying things like:"I don't want to win really" or "I don't fancy him at all" - When it's patently obvious they mean the opposite... How many previous HGs have ended up on TV? We've had loads - they nearly all end up on daytime tv...poor sods. |
Frannie | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:25 am     Scorpio - it's still Endemol doing the UK version. I think they're gonna change it next year because ratings were well down - but with our tabloid culture, the producers have to be very careful with who they put in house - to avoid accusations of exploitation/humiliation. |
Spunky | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:27 am     Ladyxanax... thanks for the explanation. I didn't know about Limeys for Brits. Yanks may be said affectionately...but I can tell you some Southerners still don't like it one bit... but as you said some Brits don't know that... the ones not too keen on reading US history...  |
Ladyxanax | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:28 am     Scorpiomoon, I believe some of the team has changed for BBUK. I think people here were generally bored because of the HMs chosen this year. They spent far too much time talking about BB and the experience. As you probably know, in our version of the show they nominate and the public vote who gets evicted so it's all about how the viewers perceive you. They just spent too much time being 'nice' this year for fear of being evicted. |
Darlene_Uk | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 10:16 am     I am from the UK and i just wanted to say BB USA rocks it is much better than ours i love everything about it apart from the eviction night in the uk there is a big crowd waiting for the evictee and it's one of the biggest nights of the week when a housemate comes out But apart from that your bb is far better i can't tear myself away from the tv i love the fact that your head of house votes out 2 of there fellow housemates and i love the twist with the veto and the fact that everyone knows who voted it's great it ukbb no one knows who voted who and your not allowed to talk about nominations the people who have the most votes go up for eviction and the uk viewing public have to vote who they like least out I wish our bb was run the same as yours i love yours that much that i have been looking for sites to give me up to date info as i am sure we are 18 hours behind your stream and now i have found one |
Cinder | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 10:18 am     During BB 1 USA there was a big crowd to greet the evicted houseguests. |
Bastable | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 10:18 am     The Aussies like to call the Brits "Poms." I like that one, too. Like "Yank," it's never meant entirely affectionately. |
Scorpiomoon | Friday, August 01, 2003 - 11:03 am     Frannie, Ladyxanax: Thank you for answering my question and giving me a better understanding of what goes on with BBUK. |
Spunky | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 06:04 pm     So, how are things over there?? Still split on the USBB4?? |
Wolf | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 07:03 pm     I think the whole idea of the PUBLIC voting out the HG's is just dumb. Sure it's how it was done in BB1 here, but think of it this way... that just makes the whole thing one big popularity contest. It completely erases the idea that it's a GAME. The HG's have no control over anything, they're not playing any game at all. They're just living a life in a closed box and letting the public decide whether or not they are popular enough to stay. HOW IS THAT A GAME AT ALL??? It's not. Keeping everything INSIDE the house makes it a GAME that the HG's are playing. |
R151996 | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 08:16 pm     The problem with the US BB is that they have TOTAL control of the game, or at least think they do. Big Brother is supposed to be about HGs or HMs giving up complete control. And even with the present public eviction voting system, the audience can't vote someone out who isn't nominated for eviction by the players. At a new twist if there ever is a US BB5, positive public voting could be used to nominate for eviction the three HGs with the fewest audience votes to stay in the house. HoH could be contested immediately after each eviction for immunity from nomination before audience voting starts. The veto competition could be held before the HGs know who is nominated, and the veto holder would then be forced to save one of the three nominated by the audience. The HGs could then vote between the remaining two to choose the evictee with the HoH breaking any ties. These changes would prevent competitions from being thrown and would put the veto in play each week. |
Wapland | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 08:33 pm     "Sure we'll come and challenge you to a game of Corridor. Whatdya say....winner take all?" |
Queenfish | Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 12:48 pm     I just remember during BB1 here in the US, the public vote didn't work. There were so many campaigns in the public for and against different people. I think it was George's family who campaign in the public eye against another house guest (The cute little gal with the strange hair) and there was a big controversy. So, here in the US, it has worked out much better by letting the hamsters evict each other. |
Justareader | Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 05:41 am     What I would like to see is: Still have HOH to do nominations and then let the public vote after the tuesday show - give the public like 2-3 hours to vote (much like American Idol). This would still allow for some scheming and use of the golden veto, yet not totally controlled by those in the house. Also, there really would not be enough time to set up campaigns. Of course, I believe that this kind of vote can also be manipulated by use of auto dialers and such, but it would be interesting to see and force the HG's to discuss other things besides the game(and possibly be nice to eachother). |
Queenfish | Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 05:41 am     just a reader, that's a good idea, I know on American Idol, you get one vote per phone number so auto dialers would still only get one vote. May I also say to our British brothers and sisters, I am so sorry they picked such a boring season of BB to show you. They should have showed BB2 and 3 to you instead. |
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