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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Jee takes a bribe!: Archive through August 21, 2003

Seamonkey

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
THe whole pack of them are TERRIFIED to have Ali on the block, for some reason. so thought if they used veto for it it would cut the misery down.

Stupid.

Misunderstood

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This is absolutely the most ridiculous twist I have seen! How did this mix things up? Big huge bore!

Now the show is even more predictable. So, what will they do in place of the veto? I guess we will see all the clips of them complaing about pb&j...

Last year there were individual competitions, a concert, bringing back a HG, etc...

What is this crap?

Xarph

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh please, Seamonkey. I hurts by eyes to see "honerable" and "Jee" in the same sentence.

People who have honor do not need to say "I am honerable." People who are honest do not need to say "I am honest." Whenever I hear people in real life say things like that, I go on alert. Jee has been setting off my alarms from very early in the game.

Gvandeli

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This is actually the perfect opportunity to get rid of Ali. No recourse...she would be gone. I don't see how they see Erika or Jack as a bigger threat than Ali...Ali has come much closer to winning more comps than either of the other two..I don't get it.

Seamonkey

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh probably they have another half hour clip on St. Robert of Los Angeles, father of the year.

Chy

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Do we know the exact situation?
Some said he might have been the first one up...
As Amari.. said, how do we know Jee was the only one who took it? Remember the other year, more than one HG took up offer, but only the one with the highest # or whatever got the "prize".
(I trust someone will recall that straight away.)

Also, since Jee is HOH, does he also have to eat PBJ for the week or is he exampted?
If Jee doesn't have to eat PBJ, then that's very crul indeed!

I'm not saying this because we both have slanted eyes, but, I can see Jee's reasoning that he thought others would take the bribe as well. Remember he has great pressure now, he is the hope for the Dream Team ;-) Jee probably did not think it through too well, but I guess he felt he better....

Seanflynn2003

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Jee has exemption from PB & J, either because of HoH or accepting the offer, he should not be allowed to eat PB & J -- in other words, he has to eat regular food or starve

Beruthiel

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hmmmm... so Jee is loyal, and sticks by his team, eh? This is only the third time in recent days, that I can recall, that he's looked out for number one first and last. No matter what they say to him now, he's just slopped some nice fresh paint on the target on his back. Hehehehe!

Jag2000

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I saw in the live feeds where Roberts said that
he really could have used it..10,000 so maybe
there was money involved in this twist. Someone
else said that the person who leaves this week
will kick themselves for not taking it.

Lisad

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee is blazingly stupid if he doesn't take the opportunity NOW to get rid of Ali. (IMHO) How can he not see that? Heck, he's already talking about hooking up with Jack. You think Erica would be far behind? Why not target Ali?

Man - this is going to be an interesting week.

Jee doesn't have eat PBJ but he is falling on his sword for the group. Sigh.

What dream team? LOL

Wilsonatmd

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee made a pre-emptive strike....If I heard correctly, the offer was for immunity from being nominated this week. Jee was afraid that if Jack or Erika took the deal, only one of the two could be put up.....and then if the other got vetoed out, neither one would leave (we don't know if it was for Veto, so it could still happen), Jee and Robert would be in trouble (since next week only Robert could be HOH and Jack and Erika could both compete). What Jee didn't count on was the fact that the other people would resent being put on PBJ, and now he's having to do major damage control. I think that's why no one else took the offer...it would have led to a quick ticket to the beach house, or if you were lucky enough to make it to the final 2, something 4 jury people (a majority) could hold against you in the vote....Jee's in even MORE trouble now unless Robert wins HOH next week, as the others have a perfect excuse to nom him and toss him. He took a chance, and it has probably blown up in his face.

I think Jack and Erika knew this, and that's why they didn't take the offer. Problem is, instead of a possiblity of neither of them being on the block, at least one of them will be, and unless one of them can veto themselves out, they are powerless to keep one of them from being tossed (if one of them got vetoed out, they might be able to get the floater to vote for the other nom besides them. If they are both up, it can't happen, and they then have to try to save themselves, but it seems like Erika's gone without a veto). They were looking too far forward, and it's costing them in the here and now.

Seamonkey

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As winner of this, Jee IS exempt from PB&J but he stated he would eat PB&J with them and he brought out all of his HOH goodies for the others to finish off before midnight.

I'm sure before this is over he'll be back saying "I put my llfe on the line".

Though he always seems to put Erika's life on the line, eh?

Gvandeli

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wilson...Jee was already exempt from being nominated this week...he's HOH! This was for the POV..which he also now controls. Some twist...a week of misery and no recourse for whoever is nominated. Blech.

Cricket

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"Do we know the exact situation?
Some said he might have been the first one up..."

Interesting, Chy. Wasn't Jee also the first one up in the HOH game?

Gouraphik

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've been mulling it over, and while I do agree that it was a lame twist, it's not because of the inherent design of the thing. Rather, it's lame because the one person who would ensure the status quo, Jee (or whoever happened to be HOH), won.

It was a test of character all right, but not in the sense of testing how loyal or honorable you are. That would be the case if the reward was strictly monetary (or something) and less important to the game's mechanics. No, it was a test of how strong your will to win was, and the other HG's either chickened out or failed to push hard enough to win.

If anybody else had won the POV, then we'd have something interesting. That person would have both the power to mess up the HOH's plans, plus the added burden of dealing with the other HG's hostility towards them. Instead, Jee gets a small power boost, all of the heat, and we get to be bored silly for another week.

Oh well.

I still love this game.

Sbw

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Guess it did test their character. And we can see who really is looking out only for #1. I do think it was a test of integrity.

Cricket

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jag, I saw that too. Were they offered money? That may be more of a reason Jee took it. Remember last year when Julie was offering the houseguests money...she would just keep going up if they said nothing. I wonder how much Jee got, if any at all.

Mranon

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'll post this here too.

I personally think it is great that they did this offer.

I am happy to see them shake things up in the house, and I think this one did just that. Jee was not a marked man until this happened and now the houseguests are upset enough to vote him outta there.

It's a great attempt at BB trying to make something happen in the house. Sure, if more than one person would have taken it, it would have been even more interesting. However, that's the way things go, it's UNEXPECTED!

And I think Jee is awesome for taking it. What a great way to make sure he gets out who he wants. He is quite smart for doing this, and with his suave ways, he may have enough time to smooth things over enough to save himself if he goes up. He's got 2 weeks!

Saggkl

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ok do I understand this right. Jee did not win the POV. He just earned the right not to be nominated this week? I can understand that. He wanted his noms to go thru. But are you sure it was not for the POV? everyone seems to be saying that is what it was for.

Beruthiel

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm chuckling to myself, because AS has finally acted like the real Big Brother - put them in an awkward spot and made them miserable. But the best thing is that it has exposed Jee, and he's lost a lot of goodwill, for the sake of ensuring that his nominations would stand. All the rest can now sit on their high horses because they've PROVED that they're honourable, with actions and not with just words. Very funny situation!

Gouraphik

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
True, Wilsonatmd...that scenario makes sense. We'll just have to see how the week unfolds.

Tobor7

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Backfire on the producers. They didn't think only one would take it. Certainly not Jee.

Amari

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sbw, what is wrong with looking out for #1 in the context of a game played with 12 or so other people, all of whom are trying to win a half million dollars?

Beruthiel

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm gonna have to call Jee Winston Smith from now on.

Wilsonatmd

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 08:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sagg, we're not 100% sure. It might not be for POV, it might have been for immunity from being nommed (several people from what I heard on the feeds said Immunity, and not Veto). In Jee's case, since he won, he can pick his noms from anyone. For him it was a blocking action, to make sure he had a free choice as to noms.