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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Is Jack throwing Everything?: Archive through August 21, 2003

Dutchlizzy

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 07:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've heard a lot of noise about how long Jack took for the POV competition. I guess we'll finally see for ourselves on Tuesday's broadcast, but it seems to me that Jack is playing the buffoon. I've missed a couple of broadcasts (the schedule has been really spotty here in the NY area). Has Jack admitted throwing any competitions in the diary room segments?

Tobor7

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 07:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it has been his strategy all along.

Lancecrossfire

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 07:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nope--every indication from everything on the show and said in live post feeds is that he wants to win and is trying.

Puzzled

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 07:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't believe he has been trying. He held back and let Ali win, but was way ahead and would have won if she didn't.

Then, he stayed in those cages until he and Erika had a deal with Jee. He asked Erika if she was o.k. before he left.

Costacat

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 08:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No. I don't believe that he is throwing anything. I really believe he is unable to do what he thinks he can do to win.

Saggkl

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 08:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought June won the POV competition.

Cangaroo

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 08:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Jack is using the "flying under the radar" method...from this BB as well as past ones (which he admits to having watched them all), it has been the tendency that people who win become targets because they are viewed as being strong players and therefore eliminated. I think he's holding out to seriously try to win until he absoluted has to. After the cage comp did he say something to Erika to the effect that the next one would be his?

Kmjm

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 09:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, we'll all know after Wednesday, won't we? I am uncertain about Jack's performance in competitions. He sure didn't throw the balance one where he fell on his face! Some of the Q&A ones I've wondered about, however. In his conversations with Erika, Jack seems a lot more observant and has a good memory for detail.

Netbiscuit

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 09:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Though he professes in his diary room confessions that he is not throwing any competitions, I wonder if he is intentionally losing and not talking about it because he's considering that perhaps the DR tapes will be seen by the other HGs.

What an awful twist--the Diary Room tapes are made available to the HGs doing the voting. In such a scenario, despite his buzzard's crotch comment, he's the only who would fair well.

Hummingbird

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 09:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have thought all along that both he and Erica were losing on purpose. One of them had to win this last HOH to stay in the game, though.

Costacat

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 09:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Didn't his ex-live-in-wife say he is not throwing the comps and that we really wants (wanted) to win?

Cangaroo

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 09:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She did say that, but then, maybe she's being a supportive mate and playing along too? Tough to say.

I think he totally crashed and burned on the physical comps, but the "thinking" ones I think he threw.

Cliotheleo

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 09:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She may have said that, but ............. how would she know?

Seamonkey

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 10:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it is really hard to know about throwing comps because on BB and Survivor I think people re-write history a bit so you have people really throwing a comp and talking about it, or better, NOT talking about it. But there are people who lose a comp and they say they threw it, but in some cases it simply doesn't ring true at all.

I really cannot say for sure that Jack is throwing comps.. I mean this week he TOLD Erika he'd let her have it.. in other words he would hang in until she was SURE to win it, which he did. And the veto, have no idea. I don't know if any of them got to see the others perform, or if they knew other scores before they competed.. am looking forward to seeing it on Tuesday.

But 20 minutes seems way off..

Just awhile ago Jee and Robert discussed it and it was almost like they couldn't believe that Jack could have lost so many competitions and they actually were starting to think he might really NOT be throwing them, but, like us, they weren't totally sure.

Cliotheleo

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 10:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I will, however, go out on a limb and say that I'm almost CERTAIN he threw the last HOH competion. :)

Cangaroo

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 10:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well yeah. I also think he threw the competition where he was out on the first question (my senility does not allow me to remember which one that was), amongst others.

Cliotheleo

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 10:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
........... there was the first HOH comp. with he and Dave.

Pengoh

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 10:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack didn't really have a chance to throw the first HOH.. he was tied to a chair!

Cliotheleo

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 10:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well true, but do you think Dave would have really thrown it AGAINST Jack's will? I mean I'm sure they agreed to that.

Dave's just NOT the kind of guy to throw dead fish on people without a good reason. :)

....... LIVE fish, maybe, but not dead.

Spunky

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 10:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yep, even himself... he wants someone to put a grenade up his arse and someone to pull the pin... so that Erika stays.

Bbfanatic

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 10:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
if he is throwing things, he needs to throw robert face first into the wall. go jack!!!!

Seamonkey

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 10:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The other day, I was doing Live Feed posting and Jack and Erika had a coversation in the tortoise room and Jack very seriously told Erika that he thinks he's been having memory problems since he has been in the house.. says he is losing his short-term memory. Said he plans to go be tested when he gets home. Said one night he was thinking of the people on some board with him and he actually could not remember two the guys names.

However, I wish he'd stop beating himself up so much.. today he apologized to Erika because he knew she wanted to stay in the house longer than Robert.. and Erika's been acting much more distant with him.. sort of not saying "that's ok".

But if Erika has not played with fire with that little deal with Robert (you take out Jack first, I'll take out Jee first and we'll salsa dance into finals together after slaying the Ali-dragon and Jun-bug) she could have just booted Robert first. And Robert sees through it all and is all for Erika going before Jack.

Seamonkey

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 10:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh yeah.. Robert, face first into the wall is a good thing.

Kaili

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 10:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
But will Jun and Ali take Erika out before Jack?

Wendo

Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 10:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Seamonkey, I don't know. I think Robert just wants Erika out of the house; especially before he would be evicted. I think that even if Erika had not tried to make a deal with Robert he'd still want her gone regardless.

And I also agree, Robert. Wall. Good.