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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Would You Go After HOH This Week?: Archive through July 30, 2003

What555456

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 09:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If you were in the house, would you go after HOH tonight? Or let it slide.

If it were me, I would let it slide. Let the dust settle from this past week and see where things go.

I am not so sure the dynamics in the house are all the fixed. I think things may change a lot for Dana once she no longer has the power. I think the current group of 5 is more a temporary thing than a permanent one. But I am not sure how things will change.

I would want to just watch for a few days and see what others do. I would not want to be in the thick of it right now.

Zachsmom

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 09:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If I were Nate,Ali or Justin yes I would...otherwise no..I'd feel pretty safe.

Cinder

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 09:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree that only Nate, Ali, and Justin should go for it. (Well Robert should, but could he win?) Erika and Jack are 100% safe. (I think) Besides, it will be more beneficial next week, so both Jack and Erika need to be able to compete.

Spunky

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 09:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I guess we are discussing this under the HOH competition.

But briefly,

Erica and Jack won't even try, they know Ali and Nate are the target.
Jun thinks it's too early to win yet..
Robert couldn't care less
Jee couldn't care less
Justin will try just because Ali and Nate are going to try very hard to win it.
Thank goodness the other woman will be locked up somewhere..

Minnyace01

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 09:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If I were Jun, Jee, Erica, or possibly Jack, I would wait at least a couple of weeks before I tried to get it. Otherwise, I agree with Zachsmom.

Maris

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 09:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Robert will try
Jun will try
Justin will try
Jee will try
Nate will try
Alison will try


If Jun sees that Nate and Ali are out of the competition she will throw it for someone else in her group,so will everyone else except for Robert.

Spunky

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 09:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank goodness I don't see Dana's name on this list for once!!

Wendo

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 09:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think going for POV depends on what your position is in the house.

Obviously, for Nate and Ali, they have to go for it while Jun and the Jee3 boys are still in it.

Erika and Jack are ok not going all out. But from what they've said the past couple of days, if Nate and Ali are out earlier, they plan to try for it.

Jun, I don't think she cares that much, but, if it's her, Nate and Ali, she may try; just not hard. LOL!

The Jee3 boys, definitely, but Justin will be going for it the hardest. For himself and for Dana. Robert and Jee will continue if their other alliance members are out. But, like Jun, may not try that hard.

Dana...well, thankfully, she can't go for it. She'll be stuck on the sidelines watching the action. She'll either be one happy camper tonight, or not.

So, definitely Justin, Nate, and Ali. The others, depending on who is still left. Right now, Dana, Justin, Nate and Ali have the biggest targets on their backs.

Guinevere

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 09:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't see why it's so smart for Erika and Jack not to go for it. Sure, they are not anyone's first target this time around, but if the alliances hold another week, and one of the five gets HOH, then Nate and Ali go up. And then all that needs to happen to put Jack or Erika in jeopardy is for Nate or Ali to get the veto and veto themselves. Who goes up in Nate or Ali's place? Jack or Erika (again, assuming the current alliances hold). It just seems too risky to me, to sit back and let others handle it.

Right now, Nate, Ali, Jack and Erika are looking at being down 5-4 (after David leaves). It would seem to me that it's in all of their best interests to make that 4-4.

I don't doubt that those who have the live feeds have a better handle than I do on how solid the JJJRD alliance is, but if I were Jack or Erika, I would still not want to put my fate in someone else's hands.

Spunky

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 09:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Guinevre,

this is why I think they'll try hard if either Nate or Ali lose early in the competition... but if they don't win it they're still safe for at least two weeks.

Pantageas

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 10:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Anybody who DOESN'T try for HOH is a moron. It has been shown DRAMATICALLY with the last two HOH nominations that your position in the house can change drastically depending on the whims on the HOH holder. I think the question is "Can I trust all these other people NOT to nominate me if I DON'T get it?".

If two or more other HGs MIGHT nominate you if they get it, you better at least TRY to control your own destiny...

Maris

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 10:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack told Erika to lay low and see who gets HOH. Whichever side gets HOH that is who they will align with. So Jack and Erika will not go after the HOH.

Pulk

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 10:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Stupid, stupid, stupid on Erika or Jacks part not to go for it.

As things stand now 2 from the dark side need to make it to the final becuase if we have a DS/stooge sitting their in the final the stooge will get four votes.

Cinder

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 10:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes- Pulk- but it is more imporant that they get it the next week- after lines may have been redefined. This week will either be Nate and Ali up- or Dana and (Justin/Robert)

Pulk

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 10:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I would go for broke Cinder.

Also the dark side need to try to do is getting J3RD to turn on eachother. If they get HoH i would nominate 2 and let them get the POV.

If the veto is exercised by anyone one from J3RD let them know it is the equivalent of evicting there replacement.

Diacritical

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 11:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This is the last week that the HoH can overcome an adverse veto. They *must* try for it. To let this week slide is suicide for any alliance.

Maris

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 11:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I disagree with you on that one Diacritical. I actually think Jack is right with this. He andErika have nothing to be gained by going after the HOH and targeting one group or another. I think it is critical for them to sit back and see who is on top or watch how things are this week to pick their alliance.

Diacritical

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 11:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
They will each get picked off one week later if they do not move. There is no love for either among the stooges. If Jack or Erika wins this week, they can put up Justin or robert and Dana. If one of them wins the veto, then they can still put up Jee. One week from now, that will not be possible. This is the wrong week for either to sit back and watch. They will be removed -- neither Dana nor Justin nor robert has a scintilla of ethics about them and will turn on any supposed alliance with them. They can trust Jee more, but not but a hair.

Maris

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 11:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I disagree about the characterization of Justin. Justin has never lied in this game, has honored every single agreement that he has made. If I was to pick one person in that house whose word I could trust it would be Justin.

Crossfire

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 11:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, it is important to note that the untrustable group is actually the ones who booted Michelle, the others did what they said they were going to do.

Justin's only fault is belonging to the unpopular group though I see nothing wrong with them, they are just trying to stay in the game as long as possible.

Pulk

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 11:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, if it is ok for Jack and Erika to take a step back then how come Jun, Jee and Robert wont do likewise?

But anyways, with this kind of HoH competition you aren't able to asses your standing like with the Q & A round so they have to go all out for it.

Diacritical

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 11:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Justin has been the most two-faced of all the HGs. At least robert is open in his contempt and Dana is obviously imbalanced. Justin will tear into someone who is not there and turn around and pal it up with him/her two minutes later. A total janus that one. I'll give him this... he's not a foul-mouthed as Dana.

Maris

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 11:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun Jee and Robert know that their alliance must win this week or one of them goes on the block. Jack and Erika know they will not be on the block. It will either be Alison/Nathan or Dana/take your pick.

Cliotheleo

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 11:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Huh? Justin two-faced? Are we talking about the same Justin here?

I'm talking about Justin from BB4 ......... which one are you talking about? :)

Mystery

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 11:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Didn't Justin say that he wanted to yell at Dana to keep her hands off him? Or am I thinking of someone else (it's easy for me to believe ANY of them could have said that!) And then he spent all that time in the HOH room with her.

I thought everyone but Nate and Ali and possibly Justin should lay off the HOH competition this week but Diacritical, you're making me rethink things.