Where's Jack's FBI training???
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Cliotheleo

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 11:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Exactly, I know I was SWEARING to Maris or C1 or someone last week that David really liked Dana as a person, he was just rivals with her as far as the game went. But then Tuesday (or Wednesday) on the show in one of his DR sessions he said "I can't stand the *****!"

So that just goes to show you how much I know. :)

Twiggyish

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 12:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well I like Jack. But, I can see where he hasn't always been using the best strategy.

Grits, Yup..they are lab rats.

Hockey31

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 01:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack is great and obviously America agrees because he has consistently been high in the polls. Those of you who critique him <mk> we have a right to voice our support of Jack just as you want the right to pick him apart.
I think he is doing very well <mk> while I don't know Jack's friends or family, it seemed like all that person was trying to do was clear up some inaccuracies people had written about Jack's FBI career and training.
Anyways, it does seem that as another person put it, <mk>. I guess we all have our favorites.
Jack seems like a great guy and he is very entertaining. I think the ratings will go even further down if he is voted off.

Costacat

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 01:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
See, Hockey. I disagree. I don't think Jack is "a great guy" nor do I think he "is very entertaining." The popularity polls on the CBS site are a joke; you can vote as many times as you want for a single houseguest. In either the like or dislike column.

Also, the person who started defending Jack so loudly did not mention that s/he knew Jack personally BEFORE going all guns on the those of us who do not think Jack is the most exciting thing since Wonder bread.

All of the above is my opinion.

Hockey31

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 02:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Relax there, Costacat.
Again, I have a right to defend who I like.
chill

Maris

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 02:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Costa. But you know we can all be proved wrong and that is the great thing about this game. Jack may actually have a plan and have some insight into these hamsters. Time will tell. If he is voted out though, you cant blame the emotional high school kids. Ultimately, people are voted out because of their actions or lack there of in the game. Dana has nobody but herself to blame for her nomination and eviction, just as David only had himself to blame for his eviction.

We will just have to wait and see. My money is on Jack not having any clue.

Costacat

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 04:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, if we are proved wrong, you 'n me will be the first to admit. I'm not much of a gamblin' kinda gal, but my money is right there alongside yours.

Lurknomore

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 04:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think Jack is that great BUT I do think he is the best of what we have to root for now that David (soft sob) is now gone. He is an adult, he hasn't said "like you know" once, he seems to be intelligent and has shown brief flashes of humor. He hasn't said or done anything to make me want to strangle him, which is more than I can say for just about every other HG. So right now I hope it manages to win this trainwreck.

Lurknomore

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 04:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
BTW keep forgetting to add this...I thought Jack's friend gave us some really good insight into both him and his capabilities. <mk> I am glad they posted.

Twiggyish

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 06:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack went up even more notches with me tonight.


Gooooooo Jack!!!

Karuuna

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Me too, Twigs. He really does understand the game, the players, etc. Now if he could only win a competition or two. :)

Maris

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lol Karuuna, that is the trick.

Laisey

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope some of the constant and repetitive strategizing will slow down and we will get to see more of Jack on the feeds. I could use some humor occasionally.

Puzzled

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Jack is great, too.

Twiggyish

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it would be best if he doesn't win the HOH quite yet. It seems HOH's become instant targets...lots of resentment stirred up.

Puzzled

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 08:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Jack is great, too.

Lilliegirl

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 08:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Jack is great to he has my vote.

Willsbills

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 08:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think he's using every bit of his skills not only as an FBI agent, but also a father and husband. All those things take unique skills and I think he's using them. I think more than anything he's just not getting enough camera time.

Creampuff

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 08:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I got such a kick out of watching and listening to Jack in the DR on last night's show. He does come off with some good stuff! It seems to me as time goes on he is becoming a bit more vocal. I keep feeling he is just biding his time!

As for Jack's lack of winning any competitions, Will won none (I don't believe). I know he never won HOH . . . and he went on to win the $$$.

Justareader

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 08:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have said this in other posts: Jack is sly like a fox!! Although I did not think he had a grasp on the game in the beginning I really think he does!! Yeah, Justin is the biggest threat - he is nice to all, he is strong and he is bright. If they don't get rid of him he will walk away with the money. Jack has showed to have the best game strategy so far!! I would hate to get to the final to and it be Jack and Justin because I believe the jury is 4/3 on the exes favor, right?
I digress........

Lurknomore

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 09:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually you don't digress IMHO Just lolol...I was about to post the last point you made when you beat me. I think that's what it's gonna boil down to regretfully unless things drastically change. Not to mention the fact that this year the jury won't get to see the show. Did we ever find out if they will get to watch what is said in the house some SOME of these folks might betray themselves with their 97 alliances?

What amazes me is how Arnie and Crew took the WORST part of Survivor...not the best or the interesting mind you but the worst, where outcomes are predictable, and brought that into BB. Great job! Survivor has been trying to fix for for the last few years by mixing up teams but it always falls right back down to predictability amongst tribal lines.

One thing I will at least give the G3 is they are true to each other and not faking it or hiding it, which is more than I can say for the rest of the flip-floppers. Pity I don't like any of them more, but I do like that aspect of them.

With David gone :( truthfully the only person I'd really still like to see win is Jack. He is the ONLY person that made me laugh during the show last nite. Also, the poor guy, is the only true adult in that house. Beyond him, I'm only rooting AGAINST people, not for people.

Realtvfan

Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 03:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
For me, Jack possibly compounded his problems on the first day when he told the others he worked for the FBI. I would have thought that he would have created a less threatening profile for himself in the house. He could have said he worked as a "government employee", a security guard or something of that nature. Anything a lot less threatening than an FBI agent. Jack did mention that he had been on stakeouts and other assignments that lasted more than 100 days. His creatively for creating a less threatening persona in the house was missing on that first day. He had at least a week of initial private sequestration to "build a story".

This is a game of lieing to each other. He is retired. There would be no repercusions for his truth stretching (ok, lieing) behavior in the BB house back at his day job.

Jack was very lucky that the nature of this game was the X-factor. Once the original HGs were told that their "ex's" were about to walk into the BB house, Jack became much less of the problem to the HGs. That was just dumb luck for Jack, not anything that Jack did to help himself.

Jack also knew that there would be no one within 25 years of his age. He would immediately stick out of the crowd in the house.

I'm still cheering for Jack and Erika (except for the problem racial comments a few weeks back.)

My $0.02.