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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Who's going: Jack or David?: Archive: Archive through July 28, 2003

Suitsmefine

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If Dave goes, I'm done watching this season...it already sucks,without Dave(the only entertaining one in the house) it will be like watching grapes ferment!

Zachsmom

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
And the grapes have no hope of turning into a fine wine.

Cliotheleo

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
And that may very well be what they've decided to do NOW .......... but we've still got a whole 24 hours to the vote. It's not over yet.

Auntie

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
if jun wants dave gone, he'll be gone. if she wants him to stay, he'll stay.

jun is calling all of the shots right now.

she tells dana what to do, who, in turn tells justin what to do.

she tells jee what to do, who, in turn, tells robert what to do.

jack can't vote. dana can't vote.

erika will vote to keep jack over dave, she is there for the money.

they sat up last night running what-if voting/hoh scenarios and decided it was safest to oust dave.

Jagger

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
My guess is they will get rid of Dave, just because he is a stronger player and has a better chance of winning the competitions. If Dana would have only used her brain and nominated both Nathon and Ali she would have been guaranteed one of them would still be on the block.

Johnnydollar

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"Maybe they follow a differant religous leader than God. I wonder who it could be, Could it be......SATAN? "

You mean they worship Roddy?

Suitsmefine

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
ROTFLMAO!!!!!Johnnydollar,that's a good one!

Suitsmefine

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If Erika is really in it for the money, she better keep Dave...She will need someone on her side that can actually win a competition. Everything poor Jack tries to do ends up with a bump on his head or carpet burn on his face!

Needmylifeback

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 09:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I may be on the other side of the fence...but, I think that Jack will be gone...and the Jee-3 + 1 will base it off of who they want to be sequestered with....

I just hope that upon exiting that Julie tells Jack that even tho' he's left the house, she wants to put a smile on his face and so she reveals to Jack and America where the evictee will be going next week and for the following weeks after....the Sequestered House...and give a virtual tour...smaller than the BB house ...One bedroom, 7 beds, One bathroom ...a smaller backyard without a pool or jaccuzzi or weight stuff AND the food is based off of the BB house winning the food competitions! Jack will be glad to be out before the sequestering...because no-one that is PLANNING on being sequestered in CanCun, drinking MaiTai's ...is going to be the least bit happy to walk 100 yards across a parking lot to another dungeon! :) I can dream can't I???? LOL!

Costacat

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 09:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oooh... Need! What an evil dream you weave! (I like it, I like it alot!)

I really do wish that the HGs would have their collective bubbles burst about sequestration. Providing, of course, that the info we have about a duplicate house on the lot is correct.

Back on topic... I think that Jack will be evicted, for much the same reasons as Needmylifeback states. I think, once they quit thinking so emotionally, that they will again think about who they wanna be sequestered with. And they all freely admit they like David's antics. Jack is very cool and calm, and could be a stabilizing influence.

So, on that basis, I vote to evict Jack.

Spunky

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 09:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Nice thought Need...

I have a feeling it is Jack as well. Didn't they want to repeat what Dave did with the surprise eviction of Michelle? They want everyone to think it's going to be Dave but at the last minute it's going to be Jack.
I find this move crappy as Dave will go straight to his own alliance...

I think I like Jack because he's the only one who sees them for what they are, a bunch of highschool kids who delight in sex talk and pompous like peacocks..
On the other hand he hasn't shown a better skill at negotiating and we need him to do a better job if he stays. I like the fact that in spite of Nathan using the veto they're sticking together.
I'm disappointed at David, I have a feeling that he thought he could just sit pretty for Dana, he has to do a better job at negotiating.

Costacat

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 09:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Spunky, I think I must've missed something... Are they doing the "••• for tat" thing to "pay back" for Michelle's eviction? Really? Please tell me the HGs have not reverted to elementary school games.

I'm SOOO confused!! If they think *rationally* I think they'll evict David (he *is* a stronger player). If they think *emotionally* the could evict Jack (cause they don't wanna be sequestered with him).

Lucymac

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 10:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Need, what a great dream and oh how I wish it would come true. On a personal note I really hope they keep Dave as I think it will be boring without him. However, I get the feeling the others really do realize that they are better off evicting the stronger player shich is Dave. If Erika really wants to keep Dave, she could let the other alliance know that Jack has no intention of breaking his alliance with Nate and Ali. I'm sure it would be hard for her to say anything about Jack but she needs to do something to keep Dave on board. I doubt that Dave would change alliances but just make sure he doesn't win anything so he doesn't break his word, even though he would never admit doing that. Although Dave and Erika might not be so wrong to side with Jee3 and Dana to keep going a few more weeks until that group has to start going against each other. I'm not convinced that Nate and ali can win as many competitions as they think they can.

Maris

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 10:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
History has proved that they get rid of the weak player so my money is on Jack being evicted.

Ocean_Islands

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 10:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I just don't see Jack staying. David may be dangerous for those who are against him, but I think his personality will win. Jack has as much personality as a pet rock.

Twiggyish

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 10:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
OI!! sheesh. Poor Jack.

Dave is annoying. I'm hoping Jack stays. (Even if the odds are against him)

Bastable

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 10:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
O_I, you are onto something. David fits in a lot better with the young people. He was playing the fool all yesterday, making them laugh. It makes keeping him easier.

Ocean_Islands

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 10:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That said, this BB group seems to have some tricks up their sleeve:

1) Who knew Jee could be manipulated and so fooled?

2) Who knew Jun was so crafty?

3) Who knew Dana could make such a brilliant move for her game?

Who knew?

So following this small bit of evidence, they just might get rid of David and keep Jack.

Seamonkey

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 10:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Dave will be booted, sadly. Jun and Jee are correct that Dave is a strong player in terms of holding his team together, calming them down, providing humor. He is dangerous to Jee3/JD because they all like him, especially Justin and Dana. Even if Jun and Jee didn't talk game sense, with Robert seeing their point, the fact that Erika tried to push the idea of Dave staying, makes them stronger in the knowledge that Dave must go now.

I hate saying that because I do not want Dave to go.

Yes, Jack isn't going to entertain many of them in sequestration, except Nate and Erika.

But if any of them have eyes on the prize, they need to be working toward NOT being sequestered but toward staying in the house to the end.


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What is REALLY frustrating is that HOH keeps putting up pawns or trying too hard to make sure a specific person leaves.

Then they criticize others who did the same

THEN they plan to repeat the very same mistake.

So Dana is critical of Nate, and of Jee but she homes in on Ali and now has lost control and Ali will still be there on Thursday.

But she and Jee3 say "we have to win HOH" and "we will put up Ali vs XXX and THEN if Ali is vetoed we will put in Nate"..

Hello? First of all you have to win HOH. Second of all, if you don't put up Nate and he wins veto you are right back to where you were this week.

If you put up Nate and Ali then ONE of them will go, no matter the veto.

Arrgh.

Too bad, because I doubt if Jack will enjoy being sequestered after having lost out on the prize money, he'd want to be home with family. Dave really wants to be sequestered and sees the $750 a week as worthwhile.

Meggieprice

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 10:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I fear it is Dave after everything I have heard...and as for one of the stooge5 pulling a fast one- not a chance. They will vote together. There was some talk of keeping Dave but June put a stop to it. <<<<<sigh and sob>>>>> I will really hate it but I have to accept Dave is gone.

(On a happier note WOOHOO- I got Bruce Springsteen tix for PacBell park!!!! Pretty good seats too!)

Meggieprice

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 10:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sea- they actually said they will nominate Ali and someone else? Haven't they learned anything? ARGHHH!!!!

Kmjm

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 10:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't feel strongly either way about Jack or Dave being evicted but I agree that it will be hell for Jack to be sequestered with that bunch, Dave would be much happier. I am one of those who doesn't enjoy Dave. I have tried to see what many of you see in him, I watched him for a long time yesterday. He is at times mildly amusing but mostly I find his antics stupid and annoying. I did however really enjoy the strategy talk that he and Jack had last night.

Jack may come across as flat, but I think that could be strategy. He has all the odds stacked against him in that house and he has done exceptionally well in keeping the target off his back. I don't want to get back onto the subject of bigotry, but has anyone ever heard Jack make an offensive remark? He may be the only one in the house who hasn't, and who doesn't use the f word in every sentence. I find that refreshing. I'd like to see Jack come more into his own as the numbers in the house decrease.

Maryk

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 10:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Much as I hate it (probably will end my live feed watching), Jun and Jee will make sure that the Darker side evicts Dave. It really frustrates me too that if Dana wanted Ali gone, she should have nominated Nate to begin with, and now we are left with the 2 most popular players being on the block, and one of them will surely go.

Twiggyish

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 11:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
We can thank Dana for that.

Kalekona

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 11:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Late last night they clearly said they have to put Nate up, no playing around and worry about the Veto if it happens. So if one of them does win HOH it will be Ali and Nate.
They now want nate out more than anything. (pretty smart on ali's part) but figure with them both out one will leave.