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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Where's Jack's FBI training???: Archive through July 31, 2003

Philamom

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, he's written a couple of articles for the Atlantic Monthly. One was about the FBI not hiring black females ...here's a link to the article, if you'd like to read it. (hope the link works) http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2001/03/owens.htm

Laisey

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, Yes he has; before the show began (when the HGs were interesting because all we knew of them was from their bios on CBS), someone googled his name and posted a link to an article he had written about the FBI's failure/reluctance to hire black female agents.

Maris

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ok, I just remember someone googling his name and we were all convinced he was an oversized fisherman who liked to fish without a T shirt.

Maris

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As an HR professional I am surprised he would make a commint about Dana thinking with her panties.

Thanks for the info. I will read his article.

Lurknomore

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Like Laisey I also have a different take on Jack...though I think hers is more creative lol. But we both could be right. :)

I have said this before and I still stand by it. I think Jack was smart enough to know the FBI thing would intimidate a lot in the house, so he has bent over backwards to lose competions, look like he's old and clueless and in a nutshell not a threat.

True, our gov't has had some lapses, but I have more faith in them than the way Jack has been. I'm not sure I've ever seen a guy Jack's age with as good a bod. Yet he manages to constantly fall down, say how he can't keep up, and keep looking inept. Sorry I don't buy it. I think he's sly like a fox. And if you recall his initial DR comments were all right on. Things changed since then.

Part of me wants him to stay around so we can see if I'm right, but that would mean David going, and since he is my ONLY amusement in the house I just can't root for that. Damn lousy exit this week...Arnie really should have found SOME way around it. Cause no matter how it goes he is either going to lose his most popular player or one running a close second with not a lot of the others rating anything respectable. This is just a BAD BAD eviction :(

Costacat

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
From Jack's mouth (well, *words* he wrote in the article):


Quote:

I spent thirty years as an agent in the FBI, and I enjoyed it. I made arrests, did surveillance, handled swat operations and hostage rescues, worked undercover, and was immersed in Cold War intrigues, counterintelligence, and anti-terrorism.




So maybe THAT'S it! Jack is an undercover agent. He's gone covert. For whom and what, I have no idea. Maybe he's there to infiltrate the BB ranks and bring back information to Arnie. Oh wait! They can get their OWN information from the LFs!

Costacat is definitely feeling goofy tonight!

Maris

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
and Costa wants to make a point.

Costacat

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey, sorry guys! I have NO idea why I had a double post. And when I went in to edit it, I got all kinds of weirdo messages that wouldn't let me edit it. And then when I came back out and refreshed, the second message was gone. Hiccup? Or hairball? YOU choose!

Moderator

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hee Hee! Sometimes, we're quick!

I deleted two of the three identical posts Coatacat made.
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Costacat

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 08:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OK, so Twilight Zone here... But big thanks to Moderator (c). I'm still wondering how I did that (what a great way to get a point across, yes? <grin>).

Justavice

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 08:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack may be much more used to dealing with masterminds and criminals who are complex and multi-layered. This crowd may have dumbfounded him with their less-than-complex interactions and personalities.... I imagine if one of the HG's committed a crime outside of the house, the FBI probably wouldn't be necessary...

Cangaroo

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 08:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe Jack just doesn't care. Maybe he thought he wanted this experience and has now decided NOT. I mean, if he wanted to teach the kids how to behave...he could have stayed home to do that...no, wait...his kids are all grown. Maybe he's decided he's RETIRED from both the FBI and child-rearing and just wants to steer clear of it all. I think he's just there to have the experience...not necessarily to win.

Cricket

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 08:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, he said being with this group was harder than going through the cold war.

If he is there just for the experience, he should have offered himself up instead of David, because David is there to play the game. He's also taking Erika, Nate and Ali down with him if he isn't playing the game. Sure wish I could understand his delay tactics.

Ocean_Islands

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 08:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I want to know what Juju thinks of Jack.

Puzzled

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 09:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lurknomore--I'm with you. As I wrote on another thread, he was "pointing" when in that spinning chair, so he could not have been so dizzy that he fell like that.

Think he's flying under the radar and all the rest are falling for it.

Maris

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 09:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He is flying so much under the radar that his face scraped the ground.

Foreverfan

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 09:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Maris

He does not seem to be fighting just agreeing to everthing the other side is telling him to do. He has to realize that once Nat and Ali are gone he and Erica are next. How can you not know that?? I hope he has some underlying plan but I doubt it since he has shown NOTHING to reveal any type of stategy so far... COME ON JACK GET YOU A$$ IN GEAR....

Bastable

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 09:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I, too, wish AS would manipulate Jun so that she would see Jack as the more dangerous player. Alas, I don't think it's going to be.

Kmjm

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 09:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that Jack is playing a brilliant game either by luck or design. He's so much older than the rest of the HGs, but hasn't got the "dad" stigma. With so much hate going on, he could have easily been a target like Gerry was last year. A major achievement IMHO. He's been very cool.

Nana

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 09:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
apparently flying under the radar has helped him in this eviction - since the strategy is to vote out Dave as he is a stronger competitor.

Kmjm

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 10:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Listen to Jack right now. He's talking about the FBI.

Spunky

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 10:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, at least he's the only one who made me laugh tonight... no matter how much Dave tried to make me laugh, Jack was the one who really cheered me up tonight!!!
(Well, it's something about me seeing people falling down, I just laugh so hard..)

Slg21

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 04:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
<MK>
Jack happens to be extremely well respected in the Bureau, and he did not have a "desk job". He specialized in hostage negotiations and foreign intelligence. He was also on the Birmingham SWAT team for over ten years. Furthermore, he was the recruiter for the entire southeast region and also who the Bureau sent to represent them at public speaking events. Do your homework before putting down the man. He is very well respected not only in the FBI but also in his community.

Twiggyish

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 04:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Do you know him Slg?

Slg21

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 05:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
yes, I know him very well.
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