Archive through August 15, 2003
TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1:
Go With Your Gut - Who's Going to . . . . . . . :
Archive through August 15, 2003
Kk4 | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 07:36 am     (Who's going to). . . Be nominated? What is this deal I'm reading about that the stooges proposed to Ali? Anyone hear that? |
Dke1212 | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 07:44 am     I think it will stay with Justin and Robert being nominated. Robert hates Jun this week so I think he proposed something about getting her out soon, but not sure. |
Justshirley | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 08:11 am     I think the best move for Erika and Jack would be to nominate Justin and Jee. That way they guarantee hitting both the J3 alliance, as well as one of the 2 "exes" sub-alliances. Robert has only J3. If he is nominated with Justin, I fear that Ali, Jun and Jee will surprise Erika and Jack and vote out Robert instead of Justin. That would leave Erika and Jack in an extremely precarious position next week, since only Jack could compete for HoH and he would be competing against Justin, Ali, Jee and Jun. If Jee is nominated with Justin, I think Jun will go with Erika and Jack and vote to evict Justin. Even if both Ali and Robert vote to evict Jee, Erika would get to cast the tie-breaker. |
Lovedana | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 08:21 am     Wow! Finally this show took a twist and turn! I left for a while hoping it would take a turn. Cool ... Karma again in action. I am happy now. I suspected Erika would win the HOH since she seems pretty good with endurance in other aspects such as PB&J. She seems strong in the mind (i.e., mind over matter), even though she fakes those sobs. Just Shirley, you think it's a bad thing if Robert leaves? I think it's a good thing. He's what keeps the Jee3 together, in my opinion. However, if Erika really wants Justin out, then she should nominate Jee [with Justin]. People see Jee as not a threat at the moment. He has Jun's vote and Jack's. If there's a tie, then Erika breaks the tie. I do like Justin and Jee of all members of the Jee3. So I would rather see Robert go, especially as he seems to call the shots. |
Timewaster | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 08:23 am     That is a well thought out post you have there, Justshirley, if there was a way to nominate Justin twice over I would. As it is, the way you are suggesting seems like the best route on the road to successfully ousting Justin. I believe once Justin is gone, Ali or Jun will step in and try to take over the reins of what remains of his allience. |
Drewpdrawers | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 08:33 am     I think Justin and Robert will be nommed as Jack and Erica made a deal not to nom Jee (in the cage). It is highly possible that Jun/Jee/Ali will keep Justin and evict Robert. (I can hope). Power of veto will play a large role also. Robert, who cant stand Jun, started being all nice to her last night, constantly telling her how good she did on food comp. Maybe he is foreseeing needing her if Justin is evicted. I dont want to see it easy for any alliance, so I hope for every twist and turn possible. Make them work for it! |
Battlestarz | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 08:33 am     She can't nominate Jee, not only did she promise not to, but if she does she jeopardizes a final vote if she happens to be one of the last 2 standing and a Jee3 isn't standing next to her |
Mack | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 08:39 am     Good analysis Justshirley. Definitely agree with the nomination of Justin and Jee. POV will certainly be important.....who would use it to "save" Justin? Who would use it to "save" Jee thus putting Robert in as the replacement? Robert could still turn out to be odd man out. |
Pghparrothead | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 08:40 am     I think Erica will nominate Justin & Robert. Jack & Erica have been pretty honest up till now and I don't think Jack would risk his integrity in putting up Jee after he told him he was safe. (Of course, he didn't say that he wouldn't put him up, just that he was safe) |
Luckylucy | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 08:49 am     Because of the deals made in the HOH Competition among Ali, Erika, Jee and Jack, the only people that could go on the block without breaking the deal are Robert, Justin, and perhaps Jun (they did say she was safe prior to her leaving the cage). |
Justareader | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 08:50 am     I think - due to all the cage agreements- it will be justin and robert nommed, justin the target, but they are satisfied if rob is evicted...the only one that could/would effectively use POV would be justin to save himself, rob declared he would save justin. Jee would be the replacement with the remaining nominee as the target. I think ali would win pov and use it to save justin and losing any further chance to "play both sides". which at this point in the game, is a moot point, as it is the time for individual or 2-man teams to become more effective.... |
Justshirley | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 09:58 am     I think Erika can go to Jee and tell him that Robert informed her about Ali approaching Jee and telling him to vote out Robert instead of Justin. Everyone in that cage knew that the real target was intended to be Justin. Since Jee himself didn't tell Erika about Ali trying to pull a switch, Erika can tell Jee that she can only assume that he is considering it, thereby casting doubt on his intentions to follow through with their agreement. Therefore, since Robert has promised to vote out Justin and Jack will also vote to evict him, she has to go with the votes she can count on. Plus, she can tell Jee that he should be able to convince Jun to vote out Justin now. In the end, getting rid of ANY of the Jee3 is sufficient, but the fact that Justin is such a threat in the competitions, coupled with his additional "alliance" with sneaky floater Ali (who is also a strong competitor), makes it imperative to try to take him out whenever you get the chance. Of course, this whole thing hinges on Robert being smart enough to tell Erika about Ali's plan PRIOR to nominations. If he doesn't, I do believe that Erika will stick to putting up Justin and Robert. |
Kalekona | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:02 am     The only way I see Jee3 surviving this weeks is this... Jee gets power of veto uses it and erika is forced to put up ali. (she promised jun was save even if veto was used) If ali goes up, ali goes out.. with jun, jee and the vetoed Jee3 voting to evict her. That's the only real twist I can see that would work, and the chances of it happening are next to zero. |
Alinthehouse | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:03 am     I hope... nominated: Jee and Justin evicted: Justin |
Bohawkins | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:16 am     Even though Jack is a certainly a beguiling master of the wiles of mendacity and prevarication, I think that he will limit his practiced skills of equivocation this time and be honorable, since everyone in the house, with the exception of Robert and Justin, heard Jack and his fawning sycophantic minion, Erika, make the promise that "everyone out here is safe." |
Tabbyking | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:19 am     i hope the Jee3 does not survive this week...if it doesn't break up now, it will probably go to the end. it seems as if there could be more scenarios and plotting if this group is broken up. otherwise, it's almost a slam-dunk, and back to the boring and predictable...robert picking his nose, for starters. |
Kellirippa | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:25 am     Golly Bohawkins but you sure does talk real fancy.... |
Sunshyne4u | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:37 am     Hmmmm I thought the deal was clear but I dont see anyone here has repeated it correctly. When the negoiations were being made in the Cage, Jee was told he was safe.........but would be "THE PAWN"....especially if the VETO was used. I think it was around 11:00 PM Live Feed time. Maybe I recall incorrectly. |
Pantageas | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:46 am     Best play for Erika's nominations? Justin & Robert |
Vros | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:50 am     Justshirley is absolutely right. The ONLY way Justin is going to go is if Jee is put up with him, securing Jun's vote vs Justin. And they would have to get Jee's permission to move him from veto-pawn to main-pawn. They only need one vote, and that is the only possible way they will get one. Will Erika and Jack be able to think their way through this? Their survival depends on it. But I don't think they get that Rob/Justin means 3 votes to keep Justin. |
Nothing2do | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:57 am     Why would Allison not vote for Justin? I know they had an agreement since the 2nd day not to nominate each other, did they have an agreement not to vote for each other too? |
Meggieprice | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:59 am     Why would Jun vote to keep Justin? She has historically known to think beyond personal feeliings and get the strongest person out. She knows that Justin and Ali have something going on- and for me, that is the main reason I am overcoming my OWN personal feelingas about Robert and hoping that Justin goes. |
Pengoh | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:01 am     Jun has been pretty adamant about wanting Justin out, just like she wanted Dave out because he is a strong player. I think we have seen the Jee/Jun alliance crumble significantly (from Jee's side). Jun knows something is up with those guys and Ali and that Ali is stronger with Justin. I believe she also thinks now the only chance she has of winning is against Jack/Erika I think she will vote to evict Justin. |
Kellirippa | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:04 am     If Jun votes to evict Justin, she will have burned several bridges thus limiting her options significantly don't you think? |
Kaili | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:06 am     So now they (Erika, Ali, and Jack) are supposed to focus on not letting Jee get the veto?! Like they won't be busy trying to keep Justin and Robert (and Ali if they're smart) from getting it! And do they even know what type of competition it will be? If it's questions, will Jee throw it or will they have to "prevent him from getting it" by doing better than him?! |
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