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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: 3 weeks later- has it gotten better??: Archive through August 01, 2003

Samiam

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 04:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I can sum up my problem with the show in one word-Dana, I haven't turned on the feeds on since Sunday and I am glad because when I read the recaps all I read about is her talking about the same thing over and over, her hatred is absolutely disgusting to me. Even when I didn't like houseguests in the past I could still watch them. This year I actually find some of the game aspects great, Michelle going, someone actually using the veto etc. However if someone from the dark side wins HOH on Wed I think I may just be sticking with the show which at least has Dana in small doses and turning off the feeds.

Bbfanatic

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 05:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i am enjoying bb4. it seems like with all of the reality shows they have to have all of these huge twists. i think arnie was just trying to compete with them. a good example is for love or money 2. the x factor didnt get or lose my interest. i am happy that they brought bb back to fill in my summer. i agree bastable about the egos.

Bronxie

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 05:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i think if this show was a book of fiction we would now suspect that the two "stars"of the story are Jack and Erica. It's as though the author is waiting to bring them forward in some unimaginable twist....with an unsuspecting, last minute move, portrayed with highly intellegent and witty dialogue....I wish, I wish, I wish...

Costacat

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 06:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Anyone think that The X Factor was really a sly way of "jumping the shark"?

R151996

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 09:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Costacat, the X Factor is AS&Co.'s second shark jump in his tenure. Changing the game format to "Survivor in a House" was the first.

My enjoyment usually peaks in late July when the HGs still are in a mood to have fun with each other before 24/7 game-playing sets in for the duration. Last Saturday was that day for me--the luxury comp, multiple shower pranks, partying, scheming, ill-advised flirting, and arguing made it the best full day for LF viewing for me in a long time.

What a difference 12 hours made as since Sunday afternoon the hate coming from Dana and her Stooges has completely overwhelmed the house. The Dark Side hasn't been innocent either, but they haven't spewed with quite as high a venom level.

To answer--Is it better than 3 weeks ago?--YES.
Is it on a severe downward trend right now?--YES.
Can it recover?--NEEDS TO DO IT SOON OR IT WON'T.

Thane52

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 05:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
No, but at least with fewer HG's, it's gotten simpler to figure out who's with who. Like many others, I'm watching out of habit and because very little else is on - but I remember in the past 2 years rushing to get to this site to find out what the latest news was. I think the "Ex - Factor" is wrong, works against the basic premise of the show, and hurts it. I agree with those who say this is the nastiest, most vile, unintelligent group of HG's ever. Add to it a couple of homophobes and racists, and it really is shameful. But hey - that's just MHO.

Reader234

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 06:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
My memory isnt what it used to be, but werent ratings so low in a previous BB that the talk on this board was they may cancel BB? just curious, maybe I've been reading too many other shows that were cancelled (ie The Family)

R151996

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 03:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Any talk of previous year BB cancellations was just that--talk. Ratings have increased since BB1.

CBS is not in the habit of cancelling "reality" shows, and Cupid should go long before BB if they want to clear a spot (or 2) on the schedule. Release of the BB3 DVD should be seen as a sign of network support for the series.

ABC is the network that cancels "reality" shows at the drop of a hat--it is responsible for both The Mole and The Family fiascos.

Bastable

Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 04:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
BB may be #2 overall in its time slots, but it's #1 in delivering viewers 18-34, which is the age group advertisers want to reach most. This show's not going anywhere this summer.

Besides, if they wouldn't cancel BB1, they won't do it now.

That said, The Amazing Race looks dead despite the fact its ratings are not that bad. Trouble is, it's so expensive to produce that the ratings have to be much better to justify it.

Lostintheglades

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 06:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, The show has now gotten better for me. If Ali had not won HOH I kind of saw a very boring show with the J3 picking off the others one by one and not really getting good until they started after each other.

I felt the same way in the beginning when the original 7 were going to pick off the X's as I felt they definately had the edge so that was boring.

It will be interesting this week to see the flips of alliances now. I don't see Dana making any deals or trying to save herself, just don't see her as the groveling type and she seems content to be sequestered in a beachhouse somewhere.(lol...would love to see her face when she walks into the other house.)

P_Gunslinger

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 06:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lost, I concur. Had Ali not won HoH, the show would have been frightfully dull. We may finally get to see some fireworks!

Hermione69

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 06:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm lurking somewhat. I don't think I have posted in the BB threads in awhile. I think it is funny the way it is playing out, like some people have said, it is almost as if it has been scripted.

I don't have a lot invested in the contestants and I rarely watch the TV show, but I do keep tabs on what is going on. I'm mildly amused by the shenanigans.

Hermione69

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 06:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
BTW, I actually think I enjoy it more when I don't have a lot invested in the contestants. I can be amused at their behavior without getting upset or emotional. As many of you who know me are aware, I can get way too invested in contestants sometimes (Christy in Survivor is one who leaps to mind), LOL, and that usually ends up taking away from my enjoyment because I get defensive, anxious and snarky!

Mack

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 07:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank goodness Ali did win the HoH....maybe this very dull season will get better. I still don't have the live feeds (first BB I've not gotten them)and probably won't. It's easy to say that it's this year's cast....they certainly seem to lack the character and diversity of previous years....and it simply could be that BB is no longer novel or unusual. As a behavioral sciencist I normally don't grow weary of watching group dynamics but the truth is for me this group just hasn't grabbed my attention. If it weren't for the great folks here I'd probably fade away from BB all together. Here's hoping this year gets better....I'm still hoping they'll continue BB next year and we'll have a whole new experience.

Pulk

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 07:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bastable, regarding TAR, does it look like this is the last season ever?

P_Gunslinger

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 07:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Mack, the current BB hamsters have no group dynamic! They don't interact on a personal level, and all conversations focus on the game or on bashing one another.

P_Gunslinger

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Look, I killed a thread! Come one, there've got to be more complaints about how the game hasn't gotten any better...

Elen

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 10:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi, I have been a "lurker" through BB2 and BB3. I thought I'd finally say "hi." I miss the great characters like Amy and Marcellus. ANd the people you love to hate like Will. These people are boring and I just hate Dana.

Bastable

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 10:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Pulk, the word in the industry is that Les Moonves, who is in charge of CBS, is reluctant to bring The Amazing Race back. So as of this moment, if it's not dead, it's certainly on life support.

Bluerose

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 10:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, the show has gotten better thanks to Ali turning herself into Joan of friggin Arc and knocking Dana in the dirt. Somebody had to do it. Yes, she should have put up Justin with her but at least she did something. It always amazes me that someone like Dana is allowed to be in the house year after year.

Grooch

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 10:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I like Dana.

Weinermr

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 10:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
And Martha too. I like that about you Grooch.

Bluerose

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 10:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry Grooch, you're entitled but most of us don't like her.

Ocean_Islands

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 10:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
One never knows when Joan of friggin Arc is going to show up to save the day.

Bastable

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 10:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I like having Dana around, too. She mixes things up. I don't care if the show goes the way I personally want it to; I watch it for the twists and turns. I'm glad they have people like Dana in the house, because it gives me something to shout about! How boring this season would be without her!