How could Jack and Erika be so blind???
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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: How could Jack and Erika be so blind???
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Widowswalk

Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 04:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't for the life of me understand Ali and Jun. They should realize that after tomorrow there will still be two of the J3 in the house and banned with Jack and Erika to get them out. If there is even one J3 left standing in the final two, that J3 will win due to the people voting. Jeez.

Texasdeb

Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 04:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Very probable a J3 in final 2 would win. What if that j3 was Robert - do you think Dana would "give" him the $$ after he didn't save her with the veto?

Philamom

Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 04:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You know what we haven't taken into consideration (at least I haven't, anyway) -- the effect of sequestering Dana with Nate. I'm sure Nate has told her everything that went on in the house last week -- how Ali went running to Justin and the boys, etc., and became part of their team. Dana could be pi**ed that Justin didn't nominate Ali -- in fact, if I were a betting person, I'd bet my last dollar that Dana is angry about that. I'm sure she's having some concerns about whether she was used by Jee3. So who knows how it will end up? Dana always seemed to like Jack, so if it came down to Jack against Robert or Jee, for example, I don't think it's a sure thing that Dana would vote for one of them over Jack. Nothing is certain, is all I'm trying to say.

John32070

Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 06:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think if Robert wins HOH he would consider putting up Jun and Ali. Other than that or Jack winning HOH, Jack and/or Erika are in trouble as Jee and Ali would put them both up and Jun would put one of them up (probably Erika).

Cricket

Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 06:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Who thinks Jack WILL win HOH? I'm not sure I do, as he always just misses something.

I agree that J & E need to be watching out for Ali/Jun because those two could go to the end. It's funny that they've been forced into an alliance and both have shown they are very smart. If they would just stick together they could run all over Jee/Robt, who are clueless and not the brightest tools in the shed.

Puzzled

Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 07:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Jack doesn't win HOH tomorrow, I think it's all over for him and Erika, unless one of the J3 wins and targets Ali and Jun.

Pbnj

Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 08:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
especially with this group Philamom....nothing is certain. Remember Dana's exit interview with Julie (or it may have been a clip?) anyway, she said there are only three people she could trust and who are honest...Jee3 and that she wanted Justin, Robert or Jee to win so unless the jury convinces her otherwise, I think she'll probably vote for one of them.

As for Jack, he admitted (to Erika) he's thrown every competition so unless he's an idiot (I don't think he is...wouldn't have made it as far as he did with the FBI), he better fight hard for HOH tomorrow or it's going to be too late for him. It's heating up now, isn't it? :)

Spunky

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 09:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, I guess by now Jack knows for sure he's not only going up but will be evicted as well. Jun, as always, told the truth to both Jack and Erika that they are both going up together, the others are determined to break their alliance.
So, I'm afraid he won't be able to win and Nate will be happy to see him!

Spunky

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Nope, I take that back...
Now, Robert wants Erika out before Jack...
If Jack survives Erika he really should get HOH then and get rid of Robert to avenge Erika.

Gina8642

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 12:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think if Jack and Erika go up together that the remaining HGs will go back and forth a couple billion times before deciding who to evict.

C1mag

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 12:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well spunk I think it's great that Jun told them because Jack is gonna have to try like crazy to get this one to keep he and Erika alive in the game. Jun also made sure to tell him so that if by chance he gets hoh he will target both the guys as they would be targeting him.

What becomes interesting is if Erika and Jack go up together and one of them should get the next Veto. Guess who goes up? One of the floaters, and you can bet by wednessday that the floater would be the one evicted. Think about it and you can count the votes. Jee will only hold one vote so the person that was taken off the block ( Erika or Jack) would keep their buddy safe and we all know that both Jun and Ali are just waiting for the opportunity to send the other one home. It's very personal with the other. They are being forced to play the game together but we all know that given the chance each would evict the other in a second so all hope is not lost if either jack or Erika gets that Veto if by chance they are both on the block.

C1mag

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 12:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OH and on a real sour note... I think Rob is officially the sleeper in this contest and he could easily end up in the finals.

Kalekona

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 01:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Do you really C1? I can't decide, yesterday i was sure they should send Rob home if any of the Jee3 want to make it to the finials (thinking Justin is a stronger competater) Are you thinking Robert is the sleeper because everone thinks they can win against him? Or is is something in how he's playing the game?

Spunky

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 01:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun managed to open their eyes about Ali, however, these two still can't see that one of them is going next Wednesday. They can't see that ALL of them want either Jack or Erika out next. They keep hoping for the POV to save one of them and one of the floaters up and evicted.
Yes, meanwhile Robert is still there... However I think Jee is the real threat, all of them would lose to him in the end.

C1mag

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 01:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nope I don't think the man has any game that he's playing at all and thats part of the reason he is the sleeper now. I think he's also the sleeper because they might forget he's in the game as they desire to get out others before him on both sides of the house and then out of pure luck he will end up going the distance. If he makes final 3 with any of them the temptation will be there to take him to the finals. I can easily see that happening. They would figure he didn't do anything ( jee has pointed that out already) and in a freak twist the sequestered jury gives the pot to Rob to get even with the hard player that worked it to get to the end. Hopefully, they will nail this guy sooner rather than later. If he does become a prime target to leave he will fold faster than Justin did. He will chant the same song, "I hate this house." "f- this game." "I want out now" "I'm sick of all these b!tchs"

C1mag

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 01:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
but Spunk Jee is the typical player you use and then lose when you are down to final 3. Prior people who have had that position are Monica and Jason. They each would easily have won but they were just honest enough in their game that if you had them on your side you could use them all the way to final 3 and then take them out and they wouldn't cry about it at all. I honestly believe that Erika and Jack should take Robert out before Jee.

John32070

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 03:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I still think there is a chance Robert would put up Ali and Jun, or at least Jun and Erika. If Jack doesn't get it, I'll be hoping for Rob as it's the only outside chance Jack has of not being up again. I'm also thinking the big twist will be the current HOH is eligable to win the next week meaning Erika can try for a double.

Spunky

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 06:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm afraid Jee will win in the next endurance competition, which could be in the final 3, unless he's gone before.

Anyway, Jack and Erika will finally see the light tomorrow when they're both up. I feel sorry for Erika though, because she still believes Jack is the target.....and Jun didn't tell her yet Robert is aiming at Erika instead.