Archive through August 22, 2003
TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1:
OK, I'm tired of Jack.:
Archive through August 22, 2003
Spunky | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 12:30 am     Kale, you said... You don't really think she would keep her promise to Robert... and now you're saying that she does stand a better chance with Robert and Jee than with Jack. I hope she makes up her mind better than this... |
Scorpiomoon | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 01:20 am     Sorry if I offended you, Earthmother. In the "Honestly, if Jack's NOT throwing these competitions..." thread the exact same points have been made there that are being made here. At the other thread, people are comparing Jack to Will--as you did. IMO, I find the comparison unsettling. Will knew what he was doing. Will was brilliant. As much as Jack might be a nice guy, he's not a good game player and, again IMO, he's not throwing the comps. He's just inept. Will was never inept. As I said in the other thread, thinking Jack and Will are similiar just seems so foolish to me. It's nothing personal against you. No need to get snippy. |
Spectacle | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 02:13 am     An FBI agent not knowing how to play a game as simple as this, come on,,, he has and is playing it to the max. I too am irritated at his constant complimenting his foes and playing the male ego game of 'you are FBI material'... notice he sure isn't saying that to the women... and his "I'll protect you" comments to Erica.... she has been his pawn more than anyone, putting herself at risk in competitions by winning and appearing a to be more of a threat. |
Creampuff | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 02:38 am     I've said all along that Jack was biding his time. No one can convince me that he isn't a bit more adept at game playing, i.e. HOH, veto, etc. I have to believe his strategy is to lure them in and then strike while the iron is hot! I still think he is playing this much as an undercover agent would. The FBI doesn't ordinarily retain klutzes on their payroll, especially not for 30 years. I just finished reading tonight's feeds and it appears that he has Jee convinced to keep him. Erika definitely seems to be the prime target now! It will be interesting to see what happens tomorrow. |
John32070 | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 03:34 am     George was the 5th left when he exited, Kent and Gerry were the 6th left when they walked. I still can't help to think he blew this one on purpose but until he does leave I doubt we'll know for sure. I have a good suspicion if he does leave before the final 2, Julie will ask him if he had been throwing them and at that point he should tell the truth as there would be no point in lying about it then. |
Marymary | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 05:27 am     Bottom line...whether some folks like the way he's playing the game or not...Jack is still in the house! |
Jagger | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 05:51 am     I'm tired of Jack also, whether or not he is blowing the comps or not I am bored with him. I do think he is playing a good game though, relying on everyone else to do his dirty work, kind of reminds me of Dani last year. He is playing all sides, telling G3 to get rid of the stronger players first, those that win the comps. Telling Erika he has her back, he is always giving his input to the HoH as who he thinks should go. I like his game play but I am just bored with watching him. |
Naja | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 06:21 am     The only disappointment I feel is that if ever there was a week Jack needed to protect Erika, it's this week, and he knew it. So if he threw the comp, I feel like he has abonadoned Erika, and that breaks my heart. If he didn't throw the HOH comp, well, that's another set of reasons I feel disappointed in him, but I won't go into it. As far as Jack playing a good game, yes, I think he is doing just that. I mean look..he's still there and doesn't appear to actually be the next target even if he does go on the block. |
Kaili | Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 06:22 am     If Jack makes it through this week, then this would have been a decent week to not win. There will be three voting this week. If Rob and Ali (or Jun) were willing to take out Erika and keep Jack- next week would be the week to win. Next week there will be 2 votes. Jack, if HOH, would have the power to be the tiebreaker if necessary. So say he won HOH and nominated Jee and Alison (or whoever- I don't even know anymore)... that would leave Rob and Jun to vote. Anyway, it would be better to last even longer and win the one where you decide the final 2 I don't think Jack threw it- I think he blew it again. I do that in shuffleboard all the time- I get too cautious about going over and I end uup not even making it to the scoring range. And mini golf with the bumps- I usually smack the ball Happy Gilmore style and get over them- but go off the hole and have to redo it anyway. |
Raindancer | Friday, August 22, 2003 - 10:38 am     I started this game wanting Jack to win this and I have not changed my mind. He is still my personal choice. |
Philamom | Friday, August 22, 2003 - 10:41 am     Honestly, I'm getting tired of all of them. Must be BB burnout. |
Bmh | Friday, August 22, 2003 - 10:43 am     Hopefully he is out of here this week. |
Vealprince | Friday, August 22, 2003 - 11:01 am     If Ali and June are smart they will save Erika in a 'girls alliance'. They can only win in the end against each other anyway. I like Jack but I just laugh at him lately acting all serious and smart and plotting all the time but not able to influence the game one bit. |
Meggieprice | Friday, August 22, 2003 - 11:09 am     I am officially over my Jack support. I wanted him to win but he has not got what it takes.He needed to step up to the plate for his alliance and he did not. Watching him kowtow to Jee in the hot tub last night was uck. I want those three girls to be the dream teams nightmare, vote Jack out, and dispatch with Jeebert in short order. Go girls go! |
Seamonkey | Friday, August 22, 2003 - 11:11 am     In real life I'd want to know Jack and Jun and Dave is a cutie pie. Jack can be witty but tends to be repetitive and he's anything but subtle when he sucks up to the various guys. I guess this week could go either way. I really thought Erika was toast but after last night I'm thinking Jack could be going out to spend time in BB paradise with Dana, Justin, Nate.. |
Curtisahahahaha | Friday, August 22, 2003 - 11:17 am     Jack is the sweetest person BB has ever seen. I love his soft-spoken, gentle, intelligent, RESPECTFUL approach to his fellow hamsters. Win or lose, this guy has a lot of class. |
Kalekona | Friday, August 22, 2003 - 11:33 am     Are you forgetting Bunky? or Curtis? Jacks comments in the DR show his true nature. |
Creampuff | Friday, August 22, 2003 - 11:37 am     Ditto what Curtis said! |
Bandmom | Friday, August 22, 2003 - 11:52 am     I couldn't agree with you more Curtis. I love Jack. He is the coolest older HG that BB has ever had. |
Earthmother | Friday, August 22, 2003 - 12:01 pm     You guys are right..I truly don't understand those who root for the vicious and make mean comments about those who are respectful. I also don't understand how many feel a person who is not a frat boy or sorority girl are not worthy of being on this show. Perhaps some are only entertained by vegetable or peanut butter bikinis or worse yet serving yourself up on the lazy susan. I tend to think that there are many people in this world who wouldn't recognize a nice person if their lives depended on it. Many of the same posters villified Gerry last year as well, and most of this is spurned by the persons age. The hgs respect him more than many posters do. |
Maris | Friday, August 22, 2003 - 12:18 pm     As someone who didnt like Gerry and sees no value to Jack I can say it has nothing to do with the persons age. What I do see is excuses being made all the time for Jacks lack of gameplay. They say it is his age. Intelligence and superior gameplay are attributed to him without any evidence. His comments about Dana in the diary room were disgusting and just as bad as anything said by any of the frat boys in the house. Perhaps I just hold people of a certain age to a better standard of behavior. Sheryl as I recall was in her forties (could be wrong) and yet she managed to maintain class and dignity when she was in the house. I am not interested in seeing only vicious behavior but I am interested in seeing some gameplay. All I have seen from Jack is a bunch of cliches and ineptitude. I dont think Jack is all that nice, he is campaigning in a creepy way to get rid of Erika by pointing out constantly that she is a better player than he is. He has never been there for his alliance and just apologizes for playing badly. It is easy to say oh well people who dont like Jack are only interested in peanut butter bikinis but that just indicates closed minds in terms of criticism of Jacks gameplay. Just being older doesnt in my book give you a free ride in Big Brother. |
Meggieprice | Friday, August 22, 2003 - 12:24 pm     Earthmother- I totally like Jack and I totally respect his knowledge of the game but he is switching to the wrong side for me and I can't root for him any more. I wish he had been stronger at the competitions. Alas, he wasn't. I do not want to watch him work with Jeebert. |
Avrey258 | Friday, August 22, 2003 - 12:29 pm     I must have missed something. Kale said, Jack's comments in the diary room showed his true nature. What comments? I don't remember Jack saying anything. |
Scorpiomoon | Friday, August 22, 2003 - 12:32 pm     Don't get me wrong, as a person, I like Jack. I also admire his patience. I would guess being a house with the rest of the cast--listening to them, having to engage in superficial chit chat with them--must be absolutely painful most of the time. I just think he is a crappy player. The guy is no Will Kirby. P.S: I won't mention Jack and Will in the same post again. |
Seamonkey | Friday, August 22, 2003 - 12:33 pm     I think Jack may be respectful but since he is also obsequious to some of the people who he has SAID, either to Erika or in the DR, that he absolutely does NOT respect, or whose behavior he does not respect.. when he never even gently chides them or calls them on blatant untruths or warping of same, I don't consider that to be respect. Main Entry: [2]respect Function: transitive verb Date: 1560 1 a : to consider worthy of high regard : ESTEEM b : to refrain from interfering with 2 : to have reference to : CONCERN synonym see REGARD - re·spect·er noun I really don't think Jack respects Robert's actions, for instance, yet he doesn't call Robert on that. And for that, I don't respect Jack either. But I hold him in much higher esteem than the rest of the guys. I find Jun to be more honest.. she has called jee out several times in private, for some of his behaviors that I think she knows are not typical of him. When Ali joked that Jun was much more evil than Jun.. Jun just said. "No, I'm not". When Jun told Ali she was sure their convo would get back to Robert, Ali got innocent eyes and said who would tell him. Jun just said "you will." WHen people were furious with Jee yesterday, Jun was the only one to just tell him. Not saying that helps her in the game, but looking in as i am.. it causes me to respect her. Jack fawning all over Jee does not cause me to say, "wow, I want to be just like jack". |
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