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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Has the get rid of Justin plan changed?: Archive through August 15, 2003

Ryanc829

Friday, August 15, 2003 - 12:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
grrr...Double post.

Kmjm

Friday, August 15, 2003 - 12:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Perhaps, Kaili, but I don't think Justin would agree, and Jee is covering up his secret alliance with Jun. If Jun was one of the final two, Jee's loyalty would be to her, I'm certain. Robert would fall into line with his buddies.

Jigglywigglyjun

Friday, August 15, 2003 - 12:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well iF Jee now is saying he didn't promise to use the veto( he did promise in the cage) Erika would and should put up Justin and Jee.... Thats the only safe way too go...

Jigglywigglyjun

Friday, August 15, 2003 - 12:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
IMHO if Erika puts up Robert and Justin... Robert will be the one to go!

Seanflynn2003

Friday, August 15, 2003 - 12:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Any of the ex-couples faced with having their ex-s in the final 2 are going to have to do some deep soul searching before voting against him/her because of shared communities.
My guess is this will be particularly acute in the case of Jun and Jee.
It may even be difficult for them to if either is one of the final 3 to preclude the other from being to be in the finals; that would be a particularly tough call for Jun vs. Jee (although by that point Justin and Robert may have turned their anger on Jee; who knows?)

Cricket

Friday, August 15, 2003 - 12:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was just going to say that Jiggly. I am sooooo mad at Erika and Jack. They finally get in power and they aren't thinking. They know about the Jun/Jee alliance, so the only way they would get the votes for Justin to go is to put up Justin and Jee.

They shouldn't be trusting the Ali snake. She and Robert have convince Jee to use the veto, as he can't go up. Watch them be forced to put Jun up, lol and she goes with the 3 Stooges still intact. This would be very disappointing.

The only way this would be somewhat exciting is if someone vetoes Justin, they put Ali up. It's what she deserves.

Chy

Friday, August 15, 2003 - 12:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi Ryan! I didn't have a chance to talk to you yet this year, I've been thinking about you since posters all said they hadn't seen you for a while. My handle was Chyang last season.

Jack & Erika knew about Ali, they don't count on her for anything. When Nate was nomed, Jack & N had a line about the orginal 8. From 8 down to 5, cown to 3 now(PP). I think they meant only Jack Erika and Nate were left in the alliance.

Chy

Friday, August 15, 2003 - 12:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jig----jun, I'm confused. What is Jee saying now?
I only read that he promised NOT TO use the POV while in the cage.

Seanflynn2003

Friday, August 15, 2003 - 12:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If I were Allison (not a fan here, but I am an equal opportunity strategizer), I'd consider going to Jack & Erika, saying, hey, you want Justin off so bad, ok, I won't go for the veto, keep it quiet, and I'll vote Justin off, BUT if Jack gets HoH next week, you don't put me up, but put Jun up.
She has shown she knows how to use power; she would lose Justin this way, but if somehow this gets both Justin and Jun off in the next two weeks, she is one of 5 left, and the only swing left, with lots of power to still use

Cameltoes

Friday, August 15, 2003 - 12:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Justin/Jee guarantees nothing though. The crux of the problem is the numbers situation and the POV. Last week, Justin/Jee would have guaranteed that Justin left. This week, the POV is a huge problem no matter which two are up. At least they believed they had a commitment from Jee. They have no promise from Robert and he already said if he had made such a deal, he would just break his word. They made the deal with the most reliable of the trio. There is only so much they can do at this point. They can only trust each other for the votes so they have to to depend on at least one of the others for another vote.

Kaili

Friday, August 15, 2003 - 12:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It was kinda funny watching Jee adamently deny that he and Jun have an alliance (saying he only spoke to her because he had to). I hope, hope, hope that this works out for Jack and Erika (although I really wouldn't mind seeing Ali go even if it meant the Jee3 remain in the house.

R151996

Friday, August 15, 2003 - 12:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The deal the Stooges are trying to make reagrding Jun and that Ali relayed to Erika and Jack is for NEXT WEEK, not this week.

Ali is definitely keeping all of her options open for this week until after the nominations and veto competition are history. Ali's true alliance is the only alliance a player should have in this game--to herself alone.

If Ali wins HoH next week, I would expect her to nominate Jun and Jack to placate the remaining Stooges but not violate her agreement with Erika.

Kaili

Friday, August 15, 2003 - 12:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
With Ali as HOH and those nominations- Jack would probably go... if Justin goes and Rob stays I think he would get rid of Jack before Jun even if he hates Jun. Hard call to make with him. Justin would keep Jun over Jack if he stays. Erika would obviously keep Jack. Jee would keep Jun- so if Justin stays, with that scenario Jack would be out but if Rob stays with that scenario then Rob is a possible swing vote.

Cameltoes

Friday, August 15, 2003 - 12:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Jun would be the one to go. Ali wants her gone, Robert wants her gone and Ali would likely get a commitment from Robert that he would vote Jun out if the nominations stood.

Charvie

Friday, August 15, 2003 - 12:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It would be an emotional move for Erika if she put Jee up with Justin. And besides she could always stick Alison up with Justin if Jee used the veto. I am sick of her anyway.

Kaili

Friday, August 15, 2003 - 12:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Would she put up Alison or Jun though? At this point, I hope someone does use the veto just to get rid of Ali. I admit, she's playing the game really well. But I can't stand the girl and she just lies too much. Yeah, it's getting her where she needs to be but I still don't like her. And Justin claims to care so much about playing honest and fair. Get rid of that girl!

Cameltoes

Friday, August 15, 2003 - 01:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Feeds are back... Jack/Erika talking . Talking about Ali wanting Jun out because she wants to be the only one who can play both sides - ha! Expecting Justin to talk to them about the truce Ali mentioned. Jack telling her that she did well with the nominations. Started quivering but didn't cry.

Jigglywigglyjun

Friday, August 15, 2003 - 01:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well Erika has nominated Justin and Robert...

I have a feeling Robert will be heading to the sequestering house with ole Nat and Dana....

Jigglywigglyjun

Friday, August 15, 2003 - 01:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ali just told Robert out in the pool that Jack and Erika are in with the plan of getting rid of Jun.... eRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Misslibra

Friday, August 15, 2003 - 01:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Who ever it was that said Erika should nom Jee and Justin I think was right on target, to make sure Erika will get Jun's vote against Justin. The only problem is the veto and when she puts up Robert and Justin she has to know more people will vote to evicted Robert over Justin. I believe everyone will vote to evict Robert to. And I think deep down inside Erika wants this. She wants Robert out. And I can't blame her. I expect a Robert eviction on Wednesday. Justin will still be in the house.

Cameltoes

Friday, August 15, 2003 - 01:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ali is hoping they are but I think when it comes down to it, they won't agree. They should tell her that she can make a deal with Robert/Justin but leave them out of it.

Jigglywigglyjun

Friday, August 15, 2003 - 01:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Miss your 100% right.... Justin and Jee would have been better

Jigglywigglyjun

Friday, August 15, 2003 - 01:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OMG Robert went off on Jun?

When the hell did this happen? :( I missed it!

Smokey

Friday, August 15, 2003 - 01:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, I definitely think a Jee and Justin nomination would have been better--better protection that Justin would have gone. Is this a for sure thing that it's those two nominated (Justin and Robert)? I've been watching the feeds but haven't heard that yet. Maybe I'm on the wrong camera.

Cameltoes

Friday, August 15, 2003 - 01:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Robert and Ali discussing how much they want Jun out and how they wouldn't vote for her in the end against anyone. Well, I think that no matter what, if Robert stays and he wins HOH, Jun is on the block. He's almost venegeful about it which I do not understand.

I didn't see him going off an Jun but the feeds missed alot of action this morning so who knows.