JUN wins POV will she save Justin or Robert ??
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JUN wins POV will she save Justin or Robert ??
Sunni | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 01:07 pm     That's so cute Wendo! |
Shoegalnj | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 03:49 pm     Jun won't use the POV, IMO. If Jee was up she probably would have if she thought that the votes were against him. I think she welcomes seeing either Justin or Robt gone. |
Mizinvanccouver | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 03:55 pm     That is so cool Wendo...would have been perfect in The Cook thread.... |
Scandalousplaya | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 09:16 pm     If I was Jun, I would take Justin off the chopping block. This is how I would play it out if I was Jun...It is quite apparent she really does not have a strong alliance with exception of Jee(that's a pretty week one). If I were her I would approach Justin and make a deal with him that if he's HOH he will not nominate me and no matter whom I'm nominated against he will vote not to evict me and just to make even a sweeter deal he will give me the vote for money if I happen to make it to the end. Justin knows he's gone. Also, Jun can reiterate that he can persuade Ali to vote to keep Jee not Robert. Why this? Because Justin is a big target and by keeping him around longer may deter Jun's eviction. |
Amari | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 09:38 pm     You raise some good points Scandalous. I thought Jun was playing a good game at first but now I'm not so sure. Why does she think she can trust Jack/Erika knowing they've been aligned with Ali. She's got to know how Ali feels about her. She definitely knows Robert can't stand her and will come after her. I don't get the sense her alliance with Jee is all that tight. She's kind of blowing in the wind right now. |
Kmjm | Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 09:49 pm     Jun's game was great until Dana went AWOL. She got dragged along with her. Bad choice of allies. Now, in the HT, Ali is pitching an alliance to Jun. Ali is amazing- who knows what she really thnks? |
Shoegalnj | Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 06:39 am     Does Jun like anyone other than Jee in that house? |
Indybarb | Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 07:21 am     May I ask a question? I am reading all the possibilities and thoughts, but am wondering why none of the houseguests are talking about it??? Is it still to early to be asking Jun what she is going to do???... I would have thought the talk would start as soon as she won. |
Bronxie | Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 08:30 am     Indy, usually the POV waits for the HG to make the first move...whereas the HG would prefer the POV to offer a deal....up till the last moment I personally think Jee and June have played the game very well. They have both successfully convinced all that they dislike each other...they are really joined at the hip. If June vetoes Justin he will then be the "leader" of June, Jee, Alison...that's four against two... |
Spunky | Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 09:02 am     I liked what Scandalous said, that Jun should keep Justin to deflect the other's aim at her. It's a gamble and I would take it, but unfortunately she doesn't want Jee up and risk losing him, it's too early yet for her. So, I'm still convinced she won the POV to make sure the nominations stay as they are. |
Vros | Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 10:56 am     Jun should keep Justin on the block, and point out to him it's up to her whether he loses the game Wednesday. Let him think it over. Justin wants to win at any cost. The only acceptable offer he could make to her is 1. He votes and nominates as she wishes until and if they are in the final two. 2. And he makes this promise and gives his word in front of everyone. If he refuses she offers the same deal to Robert. If they both refuse she votes with Jack and hands the eviction decision to Erika. Justin goes, and that's the end of the 3 stooges. Jee and Robert have nothing between them but a growing hostility. Jee has only Jun to turn to, and there's her alliance. |
Seanflynn2003 | Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 11:11 am     Vros You'd be a terrific BB contestant -- that's using your noggin. Jun can prove she is as smart a player as some of us think she is after she doesn't use the veto. One main problem is that all eyes will be on her between when she doesn't use it and the voting, so she needs to be careful making deals too openly. A Jun-Justin-Jee combo for the next couple weeks (with Allison on board through Justin) could mean that 4 of the 5 potential HoHs next week would target Jack and Erika -- not bad odds. |
Spunky | Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 11:30 am     It's funny that she hasn't made any deals with either Justin or Robert. I guess she doesn't need any of them and wants actually Justin gone. Bad move because she'll be a sure target next week unless she wins HOH. |
Seanflynn2003 | Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 11:32 am     No, I think she is waiting for one or other to come to her. If not, she waits til the veto is not used, then still waits, and doesn;t rush. It is smart of her to wait; she is in a much better position to have someone approach her, like Allison already has. |
Onlyhuman | Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 11:34 am     Kmjm, I actually think Jun's game was helped by Dana. First, Dana got rid of a very strong player, probably one that no one would have taken down for a while. Yes, it was a coincidence, but that is how it worked. Second, at that point in the game, the originals had already started to doubt and mistrust both Jun and Dana, Dana more, but you heard lots of rumbling from Dave, Erika, Jack & Nathan about Jun and how untrustworthy she was. There is a good possibility that if Dana had not split the house, putting a target on herself and keeping the stooges as a force to be reckoned with, that Jun would have been a target sooner. With everything split as it is now, people keep Jun because they need her vote against their perceived enemy. They know she plays both sides and they keep her because of it. With a solid originals alliance, they would have gotten rid of her because they couldn't trust her. Third, Jun has really worked the "Dana was a psycho and I had no choice but to go along with her" angle to gain the trust of both sides in the house. I've heard her say it many times and she repeated it again to Jack last night. It allows her to not be held responsible for her own actions in the house. In general, Ali & Jun have both benefitted by the rift that Dana created when she so clerly split the house. Without that break, other deals and alliances would have formed and they would not be able to bounce back and forth between sides so easily. |
Cameltoes | Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 11:38 am     The only one potentially targeting her next week is Ali. Jack isn't, Robert and Jee aren't either. I see her sticking with getting Justin out. She knows that Justin won't be going after Ali and that's the person she wants out next. She, Erika and Jack talked about how Justin is a shield for Ali. Ali has too many pseudo-alliances, and she should eliminate one of them. |
Kmjm | Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 01:15 pm     Good points, onlyhuman. Can't be sure, but the veto meeting is over and judging by the lack of reaction in the house, I doubt that Jun used it. |
Cricket | Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 01:34 pm     Good point, Cameltoes. I don't think she used it either. I was wondering why they didn't vote Robert out and surprise Erika and Jack like the Stooges were surprised, as Jack is the only sure vote to evict Justin. I forgot about Ali. Yes, Jun would be wise to vote Justin out as it would make it easier to get Ali out. Lol, she said something this morning to the effect that she couldn't jump sides twice in one week. I didn't realize these guys had any ethics about that, ha, ha. |
Cameltoes | Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 01:58 pm     lol Cricket. She mentioned something like that before. After she jumped ship with Dana, at some point someone questioned her about going back (maybe when Ali was HOH?) and she said she couldn't do that because she had already turned on one group and she couldn't do it again. She seemed very conscious of that in terms of future jury votes. Well, now she's found herself in that exact position anyway. |
Needavacation | Monday, August 18, 2003 - 06:42 am     When does the POV meeting happen? Seems like it should have already.....did I miss it or am I getting too anxious? |
Missy2 | Monday, August 18, 2003 - 07:45 am     While listening to the feeds it sounds like Justin wants to leave...does anyone know if he is the one going?? |
Earthmother | Monday, August 18, 2003 - 11:40 am     Justin is a stronger player and knows his time is up..I think he's saying he wants to leave to save face. |
Webgirl | Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 09:24 am     Say...did i miss something? BB just announced for the HGs that eviction voting will be in 1 hour. So what happen at the POV? |
Cliotheleo | Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 09:27 am     That was Sunday and Jun didn't use it. So no live vote this week? Strange. |
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