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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: America's Choice!: Archive through August 06, 2003

Missy2

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 03:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
As I was making my pbj sandwich for work this morning I realized there has not been any America's Choice this year...!

Could this have something to do with the twist? Maybe the jury and "America" will get to vote in the finale? Ahh who knows.... :)

Philamom

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 03:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think there's going to be any America's Choice this year ... I heard or read that somewhere, but I can't remember where now. I think they told the HGs there would be no America's Choice, but I'm not positive about that.

The funny thing is, I always thought the America's Choice thing was silly. LOL, and this year, I miss it. It was kind of funny to see the HGs reaction to some of the things they were given.

Missy2

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 04:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I felt the same way but your right. It gives them something to talk or think about!

Laisey

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 04:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The HGs did talk about AC and when Dana was HOH she must have asked about it in the DR because she informed the others that there would be no AC this year because there was no sponsor for it. I still haven't figured that one out since most of the ACs didn't appear to cost very much.

Philamom

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 05:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree, Laisey, the America's choice was usually inexpensive. And sometimes it cost nothing -- like the video from home that Dani won last year. I don't know why they can't give them inexpensive or free things like that ... a letter from home, or someone gets to watch a movie, etc. Cheap, cheap, cheap (and I'm not doing my bird imitation, LOL).

Sasman

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 05:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Is AS the biggest tightwad around or what?

And is he awake? I mean for crying out loud, can't they be a little more imaginative? These poor HGs have very little to do each day. I know I would be going out of my mind if I were there.

Give them something interesting to do. Hello, Arnie, WAKE UP. This is BORING for them and for us.

Marcie_B

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 05:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I figured there was no America's Choice since "American Idol" has FREE phone calls to vote while CBS charged us $1.00/call. We joked here last year that that was how BB was financed, all those dollars added up to make the prize money.

Costacat

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 05:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
But think about it... what do the houseguests need this year? They've been given all their exercise equipment. They already have a clock. They "won" the use of the hot tub. They pretty much have most everything they could need or want (including a full sized fridge) while in the house.

I think America's Choice should be TAKING SOMETHING AWAY!!! We get to vote on which "luxury item" they currently have that gets removed.

Laisey

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 05:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe AS is worried about the food budget after Jun and the Guys are sequestered.

Sasman

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 06:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
We should get to vote on what they get to eat in the sequstered house. I would vote for PB&J all the way!

Lakegal

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 06:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I miss when they told them who the public thought was the most popular or the best looking. I remember Nicole calling all the viewers awful names and then wondering why the public never voted for her to win anything. I think it would be fun if for the next HOH they had to guess who the public thought was the sexiest, the dumbest, the wildest, etc. It would give them something to think about. They would wonder why the viewers thought a certain player was the biggest liar or the sweetest. The viewers would get to answer an on-line poll and the HGs would find out something about how they are perceived by the viewers. Anything to ruffle their feathers a bit.

Bonnyswan

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 06:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thats a great idea!...Im always fascinated by peoples perception of themselves vs. others view of them

Laisey

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 06:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It was BB1 when they were given their popularity results. I remember when they told Britt she was most popular and the next week she was voted out --- by the public (with a little help from George's hometown).

Cricket

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 10:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sasman, I read a few weeks ago that Arnie doesn't have anything to do with this show now. The production was turned over to Ali Grodman(sp?) She is the one who would need to wake up, I guess.

I read something a few days ago and haven't really seen much about it. There have been a few posts. Supposedly BB told the houseguests about a new twist. They were all speculating about it and some thought they might be offered money or something. They kept talking about the last BB where Amy came back in and her and the other 3 had to say what they would give up.

I thought it sounded like they might bring an evicted guest back, but that would blow the whole sequestration thing.

Maybe they secretly sequestered David and will bring him back, lol (crossing fingers.) Wouldn't it be great if they brought Nate's ex in? Maybe she convinced her bosses to give her time off. That would stir things up because Ali thinks she has Nate wrapped aroung her finger and probably thinks she can get Justin wrapped around her finger after Dana leaves.

It would be even better if this new girl is a doll and gets all the guys wrapped around her finger.

Penpoint

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 10:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think they will add some little twists or suprises when they have fewer HGs. The producers have to give them something more to do in order for them to develop more story lines for the TV broadcasts.

Justin42

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 11:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Someone a little earlier in the season talked about how "ghetto" the whole show was (about generic brands of food, etc).. Ali complained last night about the garbage perfume she got in her HoH basket... it seems like they really have dropped the budget big-time.

Even a small internet vote could be hysterical-- I always thought AC was an interesting tool for the players to use, to see who was coming off the best with the public. It always gave them something to talk about.

AS Productions are really twisting the whole BB concept-- the outside world isn't supposed to interfere with the house, but *does* shape the house in SOME way. Leaving these people in a house with zero stimulation is a recipe for true boredom. (Was it BB2 or BB3 that they got a new board game every week? And the oiuji board? [sp?])

Sasman

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 11:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Like I said earlier, I would never go on this show. I'm afraid I would kill myself or one of the other hg's out of boredom and frustration.

I remember in BB1 ? when they had the dance marathon. Something like that costs nothing to produce. What's wrong with these producers whomever they are?

Draheid

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 12:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sasman, I think the biggest problem with 'these' producers (actually *this* one - ie. Arnold Shapiro) is the determined effort he appears to go to in avoiding any similarity of *his* production from season one. There were at least a couple of 'marathon' type competitions as I recall. The 24hr dance - including the random, even in the middle of the night, ALL DANCE. And the 24hr bicycling on the stationary bike I think.

Sasman

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 12:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
In a way, I'm sad that the ratings are up this year; this will just encourage AS to give us more of the same boring sh_t we've been given this year.

Perhaps if they were down, CBS would get rid of him and hire someone with an idea or two.

Lurknomore

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 12:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cricket I never bought that misinformation about the show being turned over to Alison Grodiner for several reasons, the main one being the HG's still generally refer to Arnie every time they talk about something major. He is also listed a co-executive producer.

I think they both are running this, and since she was his business partner they are of like minds (scary) and it makes no difference which one is calling the shots.....though she is to blame for this B O R I N G and uneventful X factor.

And ratings are up there year Sas? I briefly looked at some thread of them not long ago and it seemed most of the shows were losing to reruns, whereas in past years they were winning all the nights except the weekend, and sometimes even then. So I'm confused. They are up and doing worse at the same time?

Lastly, I think that America's choice was the laughing stock and I always questioned how many people actually found that call worthy of a buck, to give HG's a toaster, a weight bench or a pea shooter. Absurd. It was bad enough to have a pay vote to actually vote on eviction, but for that BS? I never got it and I agree with whoever posted that they would look SO cheap after American Idol and the millions of free calls. If only Arnie, Ali, or whoever is running this thing had the foresight to set it up right they could have set it up so calls were free and made them count somehow (I still say have America count as a certain percentage of the voting and not tell the HG's...for example, Dana by 90% of the vote, you have been evicted from the Big Brother house.)

Sasman

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 12:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lurk, this is from the outside the house ratings tread:

Big Brother took some amazing leaps in the ratings last week. Wednesday night's show was the 10th most watches show of the week (up from #12 the week before). The Tuesday night snow was #17 (it was #24 the week before). The Friday night show was #27 (it was #58 the week before).

Well maybe I misinterpreted this to mean that they are up over last year; looks like they were up last week over previous weeks.

Lurknomore

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 12:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok I am betting we got some stat guys here...there are some in every crowd (especially sports time lol). Anyone know how they compare to last year?

I'm no math wiz Sas but my take on your post would be that BB is just sucking less rating wise this week than last LOL. That is, of course, my uneducated guess :)

Seanflynn2003

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 12:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The show is a financial bonanza for CBS; they have no need to be cheap

Sasman

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 12:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Found this after googling big brother:

Big Brother 4" (P) (6.0/11, 9.69m) was first in the time period in households, viewers, adults 18-34 (3.7/13), adults 18-49 (3.8/13) and adults 25-54 (4.2/13). Compared to the "Big Brother 3" premiere last summer (Wednesday, 7/10/02 from 9:00-10:00 PM), BB4's premiere added +470,000 viewers (from an average of 9.22 million).}

The above compares this year's premier with BB 3's premier.

Lurknomore

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 01:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well yeah but I can see high ratings for the first show. But after folks met this cast o humorless boring people are they still watching?? Heck I missed a show and didn't even really care and I'm a self professed addict. That, to me, is NOT a good sign lol