Dana vs. Allison
TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1:
Dana vs. Allison
Maris | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 07:56 am     Mpls, <mk> Just sit back and enjoy the defense of Ali and Nate this week when they behave the way every other HOH has behaved. I agree with you on Jack but I have seen more than once that Jack has a problem with aggressive women and his comments on T.V. did not surprise me. Plus I find his accent so annoying I can't even listen to him. He totally creeps me out. |
Beachmama | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 08:00 am     <mk> yes.. but I think most of us agree that Ali isn't much better than Dana. Ali does have a trashy mouth as well, for some reason though Dana just grates on peoples nerves. I can't hardly stand to have the feeds on if she's talking, I usually turn the sound off and just wait for her to shut up. |
Mpls | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 08:14 am     Well Maris, we are not alone, at least Cross, DKE and Beach seem to be of like opinion. |
Brenda1966 | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 08:14 am     As someone who doesn't get the feeds, I like Dana better than Ali. I started out liking Ali but her princess attitude has sickened me. Where do they find so many people with over inflated egos? Dana impressed me by nominating 2 of the orig8. I really wouldn't mind if Dana and Ali were the next 2 to leave. Neither are my favorites. |
Niceguy | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 08:17 am     Nicole was at least varied in her vulgarities and colorful in her sexual perversions. Dana is just dense. Opaque. She would be very boring to hang around. Allison would be difficult as well with her somewhat holier-than-thou, vindictive attitudes. Neither of them are what you'd call a prize catch. The drama of the upheaval from being nominated to being HoH is good "reality television". |
Maris | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 08:22 am     Exactly Beachmama, most of the hatred towards Dana centers around her accent. There isnt much in terms of behavior to back up the hatred. She has acted the way every other HOH has acted. Nathan threatened Dana, Robert and Jee. <mk> Is Dana the only one who curses in this house? Is Dana the only one who smoked pot in this hosue?: Why is there no should Alison be allowed to compete in beauty pageants, when we all know that little girls look up to beauty queens and they re supposed to be more of a role model than some neighborhood Karate school manager. Alsion has made more comments about ripping Dana apart than anyone else. Her behavior after Scott's eviction was shameful not to mention her behavior with the men in the house wasnt exactly stellar. Dana is a tough person. She also seems to have this champion the underdog attitude which is why she initially moved over to the exes. She wasnt with the program with evicting them before they even walked into the house. Her paranoia started with Ali and Nate ploting against her and not including her in alliance conversations which is also why she moved over to the other side and rightly so. Nate and Ali remind me very much of the Chiara/Tonya - pretty people attitude. I find them more offensive than Dana. Everyone obviously has HGs they like and dislike but I find it odd that every year there are comments about how Big brother is only pretty people and there arent any average looking people in the house. Then you have Dana, Robert and Jun who are not the most attractive people in the house and they get slammed. Jun is constantly trashed for OMG EATING!!!! She is criticized for gaining weight and how dare she wear a bikini because she doesnt have the body for it. The pretty people, Erika for example, are excused for their boorish behavior. her racist and yes I said racist comments(she did refer to Jun as Asian in a slur) are excused with it was the heat of the moment. Jokes are made about Nathan's obvious disrespect for the bible. Alison, is the victim of Danas venom - never mind that she showed a total lack of class on live tv by going after Dana. David and Nate endlessly displayed their homophobia and insults towards gays but nobody disliked them for it. They were criticized sure but, I still like them anyway. Dana, is just slammed. I really dont get it. |
Mpls | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 08:23 am     Brenda, your point about the feeds seems to be what separates the Dana likers/dislikers. It appears she really comes across badly on the live feeds. But at least in my opinion, not so bad on the aired episodes. however, it appears they really edit Ali very favorably also. I for the life of me cannot understand why they wouldn't show Ali's little tryst with Dave as I understand it to have happened. Seems they don't want to portray her as a cheap "ho". But didn't seem so much to care showing Amanda in that light. I just see Ali as a hypocrite and snob. Much in the Jenna/Heidi vein. |
Moderator | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 08:29 am     Reminder: keep your comments about the TV show and the hamsters and NOT about other posters. Thanks (MK) |
Crazydog | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 08:36 am     It's not just Dana's accent that makes me dislike her. It's the attitude that goes along with it. I disliked her the minute she started getting all paranoid and demanding that people tell her exactly what was going on. That clip of Dana freaking out and asking David what everyone was doing was a good example of the type of behavior that turned me off. Then she became HoH and decided that she was the Queen and she became even more intolerable. I really dislike Robert and Jee as well so I'd really like to see one of Robert, Jee or Dana leave this week. Then next week it will be four on four and it's anyone's game. |
Mpls | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 08:44 am     Hope this isn't going against the mods: just have to say Maris.., I'm new to the boards and I've seen a lot of your posts.., I'd just like to ask, just at what point did you crawl up in my head? This is scary did you "mind meld" me somehow? I don't think I've disagreed so far with any of your opinions on anything on this website. o/t: I just know I don't want to see Nate, Ali or Erika win this. I don't have any problems with any of the others. |
Ark | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 09:05 am     They both drive me nuts with their whining and foul mouths. It just seems that everytime the feeds are on Dana she is spewing the same hate filled, foul mouthed garbage over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over again. See how irritating the repitition can be? I supposed I have to cut Ali a little slack because of her age but last week I would have happily strangled her. Last night though, while I was listening, she handled her HOH win with humility. We'll see how she does the rest of the week, I may want to strangle her again in a day or so. Someone needs to talk to this girl though and explain to her that the behavior she has displayed in the house is not the behavior of a woman in love. Like I said, I will cut her a little more slack than Dana because a six year age difference in your 20s is a big age difference. I would rather watch anyone else on the LF than Dana, Ali or Nate, unfortunately those three seem to be on all of the time. |
P_Gunslinger | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 09:09 am     Crazydog, I agree with you. Dana was captured perfectly with her "What are we doing? How are we voting? Why is no one talking to me?" comment. And yes, Ali is just as annoying, but for different reasons. |
Flyinbull | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 09:30 am     ( peeking out from being a complete lurker on BB3 and now BB4 ) I missed the rest of the show after hearing Jack's comment as to Dana's sex appeal!! That was one of the funniest one-liners of BB! I find Dana to be very offensive, both in her language and in her 'how dare you' attitude. Ali is also quite immature but is more likely to outgrow it. IMHO |
Spunky | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 09:41 am     Mpls... to each his own... Some like her some don't... that's life!! |
Dke1212 | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 09:44 am     Dana was acting the way she was, ("what are we doing, how are we voting"), because her supposed alliance wasn't telling her anything, but telling each other plenty. I get the live feeds and although I haven't seen every second, I still find it hard to believe that some people feel Dana is the only one who trash talks about the others. Really, it is just unbelievable. |
Spunky | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 09:49 am     Oh for heaven's sake.. ALL, I repeat ALL are trashing each other. It is to be expected!! |
Dke1212 | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 09:53 am     Exactly! |
Crazydog | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 09:54 am     Dke, isn't it possible to express that you like Dana without resorting to saying that it is "unbelievable" what those who don't like her are saying about her? I know that Dana is not the only one that trash talks, but for some reason it bothers me more when it comes from her. Why? Because I don't like her. Why don't I like her? I just don't, based on all the things I said in earlier posts. Why am I so hard on her when so-and-so does the same thing and I don't say anything about that? Because I don't like her. The point is, everyone here has their likes and dislikes among the houseguests. I just don't think we need to go around analyzing other people's reasons for their opinions. Or jumping down their throats when those opinions happen to differ from yours. |
Dke1212 | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:03 am     i wasn't jumping down anyones throat, just stating my opinion. crazydog, I'm not quite sure why saying "some people think Dana trash talks more than others is unbelievable to me" offends you so much, but there's nothing i can do about it. I thought everyone was entitled to their opinion, you can say you can't believe I think the way I do, and I wouldn't be offened, I would just realize we have differing opinions |
Crazydog | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:13 am     No real offense taken, it's just the way you said "really, it is unbelievable" which struck me a little odd. It's as if people who think that re Dana and trash talking must be from another planet. But as I said, no harm done. |
Mpls | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:14 am     Dke1212: I too didn't take anything out of your post that made it seem you were passing judgement on anyone's opinion. |
R151996 | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:20 am     No question that both sides have been calling each other names, particularly since the veto meeting Sunday. Fortunately most of it has been done so that the other group could not hear. What swung me in favor of the Alliance over the Stooges on the the bashing issue was Dana and Robert's decision to move their late-night session the other night from HOH to the outer bedroom within earshot of Nate and Ali. Jun told Ali last night that she was against that move, but that Dana and Robert insisted that they wanted to get a reaction. That decision was spiteful and immature. These people seem to be using the bashing sessions as a stress-reliever to a greater degree than in past years, no doubt due to the X Factor. The ultimate blame goes to the producers, but there are lines the players still should not cross. In last week Dana has led the Stooges across those lines too many times. |
Miggles | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:23 am     I was thinking about the odds last night. After one of the J5 is sequestered this week, there is only a 21% chance that someone from the current Dark (Al/Na/Er/Ja) alliance can win. Here are the cases: 21%: 2 from Dark Dark wins, but J5 decide winner 5 vs 2 58%: 1 from Dark, 1 from J5 J5 win. The jury will be 4 vs 3, advantage to J5. 21%: 2 from J5 J5 win, but Dark decides winner 4 vs 3 |
Spunky | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:23 am     So right on!! R15... |
Crazydog | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:29 am     But Miggles, it's always been like that on Survivor, where there is a jury and alliances. And it seems that when it comes down to the end, the alliance members don't always vote the same. I remember being very shocked when Amber didn't vote the same way as Jerri. To me, Jun is the most likely to be a floater between alliances. Robert and Dana seem to be firmly entrenched in their hate for Ali and Nathan, but Jun told Ali she was uncomfortable with the Robert/Dana bashing session of N/A. I think Jun is playing a good game and I don't necessarily think she will stick with Dana's alliance all the way through. |
Dke1212 | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:31 am     Thanks Mpls And I still find it unbelievable!  |
Spunky | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:36 am     It's okay Dke... lots of us have formed very thick skin... you will too |
Guinevere | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:39 am     Maybe not getting the live feeds is the key; I dislike Ali INTENSELY, and while I'm not a fan of Dana, I feel a little bit of sympathy for her. She's one of those insecure people who ends up putting everyone around them off, without even knowing what's she's doing wrong. Ali, OTOH, strikes me as the mean girl in HS who was part of the popular crowd for no reason anyone can see - she's not pretty, smart,clever, or nice. And yet she thinks she's queen of the world. I much prefer Jun's ego routine, which I think is at least served up with some irony and a sense of humor. As for swearing, I remember people complaining endlessly about Nicole's foul mouth (I was a Nicole fan!). Swearing doesn't bother me - I'd probably be something of an offender myself were I in the BB house. I can see how it would get tiring to listen to, if I was listening to the live feeds all the time, but I certainly don't make any moral judgements about it or think that just because someone swears a lot, they aren't smart or capable of being articulate. |
Janekat | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:10 am     Guinevere - you took the words right out of my mouth. Agree with you on Ali and Nicole. |
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