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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Who's going: Jack or David?: Archive: Archive through July 29, 2003

Delilah

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
OT I know.... Kalekona, I know you are a baseball fan and you mentioned on another thread you are a member of a baseball board, I see you are a Mariners fan.... I am a Yankee fan, but a huge baseball fan in general, could you give me the link to your board so I can check it out? If it is only for Mariners fans, disregard Cheers!

Ministryoftruth

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Didn't Robert admit to being a big coke user already?

C1mag

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
OH brother. We were talking specifically about Rob here. You are right I think he is the biggest liar in the house. I'll take those who know him best for their word. As Erikas mom said. LOSER!

C1mag

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes mini he did. But here's the coming defense for him... We are no better. There are many of us who are probably substance abusers. Leave him alone LOL

Zachsmom

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If he was a heavy Cocaine user he probably has burned his nostrils and will cosntantly for the rest of his life have nasal problems.

He's a good poster child for the war on drugs.

Bluerose

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Erica's mom should know.

Kalekona

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Delilah- here is the baseball forum link.
http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/mb/listsf.asp?webtag=ml-mariners&nav=start&ctx=0

It's just the Mariner board from MLB. And come on over we have a couple of cool Yankee fans that post now and then, as long as you don't troll for trouble were civil even to Yankee fans.. :)

(but you must know I absolutly can not stand Posada.. I'm a big catcher fan and he is the worse example of a catcher, sorry. thought you should know that up front..come join the fun. I also go to the Yankee board every now and then.)

Delilah

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL! OK, I will come over to see you if it is only to bust your chops about Posada (love him btw!) Thank you! I am adding the link to my favorite's as we speak. Since 1995, you know how I feel about the Mariners I am sure....

(Edited to add, on that note, I am outta here, nite all, see you all back here tomorrow!}

Kalekona

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Right Erikas mom is totally biased.

Dana and Robert the house whiping boys.

Robert is in AA it is likely during the same time he was drinking he was doing drugs, sober for AA menas everything folks, not just booze.

I don't care what these two do or say someone will twist it and blow it way out of purportion.

you all are so not any better than either of them. nothing else is going on so trash the hated house guest instead of finding somethin construtive to talk about. And your better than Dana how?

Lurknomore

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
K9lover wrote "Geez - she wants weed, Rob did coke and now talking about viagra and selling it to people for $10. Where do they get these people?"

An EXCELLENT question but I have one too...and WHY?????????????????????????????????

Kalekona

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
nite Delilah.

Kira33

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack, Ali and Nate changed the subject when Dave mentioned that voting is tomorrow...

Kalekona

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
poor Dave.

Lurknomore

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Kalekona...first, and I preface this by saying I seldom think I am better than any other person and am extremely forgiving and non-judgemental in real life. That said, without any hesitation, I feel quite comfortable saying I AM better than at least most of these people.

And I am NOT basing this on the AA thing. Probably the most intelligent man I ever dated was an alcoholic. Yes he was riddled with problems and they had him by his, well, they had him. But he was a decent person, polite, well mannered most of the times, not to mention very interesting. Regretfully he just couldn't shake a problem. That is very different from Robert, who I would find vile if he never had a drink in his life, let alone the AA thing.

Second, if you had the pleasure of listening to Robert talk to David then Jee about Viagra he assured them he would set them up with it once they got out of the house...and explained, in more detail than I plan to go into, why everyone should try it, even if they don't have, um, rise and shine problems.

One does not have to twist anything they say out of proportion...they are quite good at that already.

These are not nice people, these are not, in my estimation normal people, and they certainly are not the kind of people I would ever associate with.

And how am I better than Dana? Let's see...I am not completely neurotic, I don't run and turn people against each other, I don't go on control freak sprees, I don't curse every other world (except sometimes when driving), and I don't backstab folks. There's more but why bother.

Lastly, I don't expect anyone--HG's or real life people to be perfect. I'm certainly not. But I do hope folks will carry themselves with some integrity, honesty and decency regardless of real life or if they are playing a game. And I don't care for it much when folks don't. And if that is judgemental than so be it.

Kalekona

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Delilah - if there is a problem with that link just go to mlb.com you can get to all the team sites from there. (some require a waiting time after registering before you can post, thanks to the trolls. I think the M's is 12 hours, not sure about the Yankees. register at the main site and i believe your covered for all but still have to wait.

C1mag

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Kale.. "thanks to the trolls"

Uh isn't that a rather negative comment about people you don't know? :)

Oh wait is this one of those double standard things?

Kalekona

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lurknomore - your not in that house. Dana may be nothing like that outside and Robert well some people are who they are. (and many young men are using viagra for the reasons Robert talked about, It is one of the new in drugs. i don't get it but then i don't get why someone would do heroin and throw-up just to get high.

Sad to say these people are not so unlike many real folks on the outside. Why do you think things in this country are so bad?

i just think that in this setting every fault, every flaw is magnafied and we need to remember that.

Wendo

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lurknomore, I know we've disagreed on some things in the past, and sometimes agreed. But right now, I have to say...Ditto to your 12:21am post.

C1mag

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Same here Lurk.

Kalekona

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
C1 i think it's safe to call someone a troll when they sign on to a messageboard,(a boys loving boys board) using my friends screen name, then post a link on our board. Or start 10 and 20 threads slamming posters, calling them fat single mothers and perverts. Oh and how about starting threads using sexual over tones about a minor?
Can I safely call those people trolls?

Wendo

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Kale, I appreciate your steadfastedness to the HG's. However, the primary purpose of this website is to comment, discuss, and debate the HG. That is what we are doing here. If there is anything that goes over the line, the moderators will take care of it. Frankly, I don't need reminding that the HG are real people. I know they are, outside of the house. However, my comments about them, at this time, are how they are IN the house; warts and all. Again, I appreciate your consideration of the HG. But, give those of us posting a little credit. We are commenting on how they are in the house.

None of us claim to know how they are outside of the house. And, if that happened, you can be sure a Moderator would step in. (I know,.it happened last year when I discussed Roddy a bit to zealosly.)

Sunrvrose

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If you have been here for more than a year, please read "Notes from the Mods." I hope the mods will let this stay, because "Notes from the Mods" doesn't always get everyone's attention. Everyone needs to know this and this is a very active thread.

We have lost one of the longest and best-loved members of this site, please go to Notes from the Mods.

Lurknomore

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Kale...I know this. If I was in that house I might "play" the game. I might use some strategy. But I would remain true to the person I am. Of course I am an adult. These, for the most part, are children, who most likely don't have any established sense of self.

I might have flaws that of course would be magnified, but they would have to do with my beliefs, my outspokenness, most likely my honesty. They wouldn't have to do with lack of decency or illegal activities.

And I know for a fact there are MANY better people in the country than folks like this...all I have to do is look at my friends. And as for young folks I just saw my cousins at the wedding I went to (they are 20 and 17) and I would wager real cash that neither of them would act this stupid or be anything like this in or out of the house. There are plenty of good, decent and interesting younger people. Regretfully that is not who they chose to cast. And IMHO I don't think all of this country is so bad, though I am concerned with how we are being represented to other countries around the world (but that is a political discussion for another time and place).

And woohoo Wendo...nice to be on the same page :)

Wendo

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sunrvrose, yes, I saw it today. :( I'm very sad about the loss of Flyonthewall. I didn't know her personally, but I do remember discussing all things BB3 with her last year. Her presence will certainly be missed by me.

Btw, on topic...at this point, I'm thinking Dave. But, I can tell Robert wishes Dave were staying.

Bluerose

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh Lurk, your post is perfect. It is impossible to defend Dana or Robert and why would anyone want too?