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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Penalty Nomination?: Archive through July 31, 2003

Jmh1971

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If Dana lost the food comp, why is she eating candy? She should be put on as a penalty nomination.

Kalekona

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
how is she eating candy she's in bed asleep?

Lostintheglades

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Was thinking the same thing Jmh. I think she was trying to be kinda sneaky but the camera was focused right on her. I think it was just a piece of hard candy...not like a candy bar or anything...don't know if that counts.

Lostintheglades

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
lol Kalekona...this was right after BB told her and Justin to put their mics on.

Theo

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I saw it and it was right as she fisinished it BB called her to the DR..When she came back jun and justine asked what happened and she said she couldn't talk about it...make me wonder???

Secretsmile

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It's Jun eating the candy isnt' it? Dana, Justin and Jun were all on the bed when I heard the candy chomping. I may be mistaken, but I assumed it was Jun making the noise.

Maris

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
roflmao. Someone else posted that she ate a piece of candy and was called into the diary room. They said when she came out she couldn talk about it. For the sake of argument, let's say she got caught and was called into the diary room. I would not be surprised if they wait for Alison's nominations. If Alison nominates Justin and Jun, Big Brother might step in and say Dana violated the rules and has a pentalty nomination, Alison please select someone to take off the block. Much better tv and dramatics.

If Dana is put on the block, the BB announces that the power of veto may not be used to remove Dana but can be used to remove the other nominee. That is how I would handle it to make it a little fun.

Theo

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Rules for PB&J diet...PB,Jelly,coffee tea, water or condiments. no candy allowed...

Lostintheglades

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
ooh..thanks Theo...I missed her being called to the DR...bet that's what it was for. This was before Jun came into the room.

Spunky

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I just posted on the pbj thread and asked if penalty nomination is just a threat by BB, what if they eat regular food and nothing happens, they wouldn't kick them all out.. (the pbj eaters).

Theo

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
automatic penality nom for any blantant rule violation.So says the handbook.so we will see....

Hobbs

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Where did you get a handbook, Theo? You need to scan it and put it up on the site. Check with the mods, I'm sure they'll make a special place for it. I would love to see it as I'm sure lots of other people would too.

Philamom

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
How exactly does a penalty nomination work? If Ali nominated Jun and Justin, for example, and Dana got a penalty nomination, would there be 3 people up for eviction?? Or would 1 person come off? Does anybody know?

Hobbs

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Philamom, that seem to be the consensus around here. Theo has the book, though.

Keiffer

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If there is a penalty nommination over a rules vilation, I think it unfair to harm another players game other than theone who committed the infraction. What I mean is that if you 'wait till ali nomminates', then make her switch, or something then you have made her make an enemy out a person who now will for sure be in the house next week. Why should Ali have to pay the price of making a new enemy if it wasn't her who ate food she wasnt supposed to?

Laisey

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Philamom, since it's never been done, we don't know. Even if it had been done before, there'd probably be a twist this year and we still wouldn't know.

Tissy

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
and ...
what if 3 hgs had penalty nominations in the same week?

Maris

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You have a point. maybe the diary room calls Ali in before nominations and tells her she has to give Dana the penalty nomination so that in her nomination speech she says Dana you are nominated because, you ate a life saver.

Crazydog

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Maris, I'd love to see the look on Dana's face. Not "you are nominated because you obviously hate me, etc." but "Dana, I nominated you because you ate a life saver".

But I do think Dana at least should get a warning first. She seems to have gotten her warning, we'll see what happens if she continues to eat contraband.

Wendo

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, LOL! How ironic that she would get in trouble over a "life saver". Get it, life saver, LIFE saver....

Ok, I'll leave now... :)

Keiffer

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You know, Maris that even seems like a week way of doing a nommination as well. I mean what if Dana was an alliance member of Ali's? Would that mean a person who won a HoH compitition now has half the power because they can only truly choose to nomminate one person? Seems again like this hurts the HoH as much as it does the person who commited the infraction. Add to that, is there some way then to use a penalty nommination against the current HoH if it forces their hand in who they can put up. I mean then the people in the other alliance could choose which two people go up instead of the HoH.

Lawyerman

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Despite everyone's fascination with the term "penalty nomination" it actually doesn't exist in practice. I'm sure it's in the rulebook, but in four years of BB USA, no one has ever gotten a penalty nomination despite numerous infractions by a number of HG's.

Penalty nominations are like the boogie man, something used to scare kids into being good boys and girls.

The only thing BB has ever done to HG's for breaking any rules is kick their butts out of the house, e.g. BB2 Justin, BB4 Scott. BB2 Shannon never got a penalty nomination for cleaning the toilet with Hardy's toothbrush. If that's not the ideal case for a penalty nomination I don't know what is.

If the past is any indication, BB will never use penalty nominations as a tool for enforcing the rules of the game.

Crazydog

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Shannon didn't get a penalty nom but I believe BB forced her to tell Hardy what she had done. Perhaps if she had refused she might have gotten thrown out?

Plus I also vaguely thought I remembered that in a past BB they were threatened with a loss of their stipend? When nothing else works, hit them in the wallet.

Tissy

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
In the UKBB they had warnings and strikes for breaking rules
3 strikes and they were kicked out.
No-one today has ever been evicted for this reason :)

Gina8642

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 12:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This penalty nom has been discussed before. It is pretty clear that the HGs get a warning, maybe several, before anything as severe as a penalty nom would be used. Dana shouldn't be eating candy, but it is pretty easy for something like that to slip your mind when your candy is sitting on your night stand. If she does it again, then she can't claim ignorance. If BB had threatened her, she wouldn't be so calm. Dana wears her emotions on her sleeve. At best, she got a slap on the wrist. (Wasn't it Amy who freaked out last year after being caught writing something?)

Random thought - do you suppose a diabetic couldn't be on this show? (or a hypoglycemic?) If they needed to bring up their blood suger and they were on PB&J, would they be allowed to eat candy or drink juice?