Archive through August 23, 2003
TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1:
I'm tired of Erika:
Archive through August 23, 2003
Philamom | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 04:42 am     Since Jack has a thread devoted to this topic, I didn't want to be sexist and leave Erika out, LOL. I've had it with Erika. The last few days, she has really been getting on my nerves. I know Jack and Erika have formed new alliances -- Jack with the guys and Erika with the girls. From reading the posts, it sounds like some posters see this as a betrayal of each other, but I don't. They both know one of them is going, and they're trying to regroup, realizing they need a new alliance once their partner is gone (but I don't know if Jack would really keep Jee and Robert if he stayed; he's already said he knows no one can beat those two in the finals). But Erika has, in my mind, completely betrayed Jack. She's badmouthing him and making fun of him. I've liked Erika from the beginning, so this is a real disappointment to me. And at the same time she's badmouthing Jack, he's trying to work Jee to use the veto -- and take ERIKA off and put Ali up. So now I can add Erika to my list of people who I don't want to win, where she'll join Robert and Ali. Ali ... she's another story. Maybe I should start a "I'm REALLY, TOTALLY tired of Ali" thread. |
Dogdoc | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 04:50 am     At this point in the game I am hoping for the 3 girls to be the final 3. Erika has become my least favorite girl in the house,only because she has not shown the energy in playing that Alison and Jun have. I guess I want Jun to win. |
Missy2 | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 05:09 am     Me too DogDoc. |
Amari | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 05:18 am     I've been tired of Erika since the beginning of the show. She just let Jack/David carry her and worked no stategy at all on her own. She's mopey and tearful on a regular basis. I think she has some very nice qualities but she's just not interesting to me. I'd far rather watch Jun/ Ali conniving, wheeling and dealing - even Dana provided drama. |
Cricket | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 06:17 am     Dana would be going a bit too far for me, Amari, but I'm in agreement with all of you. Erika should never trash talk Jack. He is still trying to save her, unless he is so brilliant that he knows by asking the Stooges to take Erika off and put Ali up he will effectively break up the women who intend to vote him off. I don't think that is necessarily the case. I would like to have seen Erika work it more. She is smart and calm, but shouldn't badmouth Jack. |
Jpgramma | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 06:36 am     I don't feel Jack & Erika have betrayed each other and I'd put money on the fact that if either makes it to the F2, they'll have the others vote and will remain good friends after the show, the same way Dani and Jason did. They both know there is NO hope of the two of them making it to the F2 together. Jack DID make one final valiant effort last night to talk Geebert into POVing Erika off and replacing her with Ali, but I think both Jk and Erika knew this was futile. At this point they're each doing what they have to do. Which ever one stays they have to come out of Wednesday's eviction with a new alliance and a plan if either one has any hope of F2. They've both gone the only way they could. Jack with Geebert, and Erika with the girls. My hope now is that Erika and the girls take the coup. Not that I don't still wish jack could make it. fact is, I like Jack & Erika equally, but Erika has a better chance with the girls than Jack does with the guys. 1. Jack has little hope of winning the final HOH and Gee and Robert would take each other to F2. 2. I'd rather see June, or even Ali win than what's left of the arrogant dream team. 3. I loved the drama of the surprise Michelle vote, and will look forward to this similar surprise by the girls even more. The arrogant Geebert haven't learned from their mistakes and will be just as dumbstruck and humiliated this time when they see they were played as before. I want to see their arrogance take a hit. Big time! 4. Given Geeberts attitude about women, a woman HAS to win for there to be any justice in TV land. 5. With an F3 of Erika, June and Erika, if it's an endurance comp, I DO think Erika can and will win it. 6. Whether Erika took June or Alison with her to F2, I think she's got a good shot at winning. I'd hope she'd take June. June has been more loyal (in the end) and a better player than Ali. Besides, I don't want Ali to get the $50K. 7. Even if it came down to an f2 of june and Alison, I'd find that far more preferable than a Geebert F2, and I'm sure June would win the votes over Ali. |
Marymary | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 06:37 am     So doesn't Erika need to 'fit in' with the girls club? I don't think she means some of the stuff she's saying. I'm not so much sick of Erika as I am sick of Big Brother! Guess that's a different thread. |
Catkey94 | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 06:44 am     I am sick of Ericka now too. I really hope that she gets the boot this week. |
Jpgramma | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 06:46 am     Exactly Mary. Erika understands Alison and June pretty well, and she's doing what she has to do convince the other girls that the women alliance is the way to go. I doubt Erika will have anything to do with Ali after the game. She's using her and i say, GOOD! About time someone used Alison. I think June is doing the same thing. Alison loves to say how smart she is, but both Erika and June can dance circles around Alison's 'intellect'. They know it. They don't have to speak it. What's more, I'm betting that Jack, if he were watching all of this, would be standing up and giving Erika a standing O for what she's doing. He really does feel terribly that he lost that last HOH comp and feels vert responsible for having brought about the demise of the erika/Jack dynamic duo. I believe he WOULD rather sacrifice himself at this point for Erika. He probably also realizes her chances with the girls are a whole lot better than his chances with the boys. |
Lisad | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 07:04 am     I really believe Erika/Jack are true friends and 'with' each other. I've seen too too many late night conversations between them about their personal lives, their friendship, etc. Erika even got teary eyed and told Jack that she felt it was meant to be that they met. That they would have met somehow even without BB. She said there were too many coincidences, etc. I also truely belive Erika is a good person and any negative Jack talk right now is inherently BS. And makes perfect sense for her to do this in the game right now. At most, I think she's a bit ticked at Jack for mucking up all the competitions. Dissapointed/Bummed out. I really like Erika, big animal lover, etc. I was impressed by the story she told Jack about a puppy she adopted from the shelter. Puppy seemed fine then 1-2 days later desperately ill. She spent $3,000 for his 2-week hospital stay to save his life. My guess is she doesn't have alot of cash and also after having the pup 1-2 days couldn't have been vastly emotionally attached. While I would do the same thing and I expect other humans to do it - I wonder how many of the other HGs would. Little things like that make me think she's a good person. I'm sorry they are both up together - would like to see them win. Guess I root for the good people and not Ali types (who play so well). Course - I rooted for Dani. Under the talk I thought she was inherently a good person. Still do. I know the board generally didn't agree with that theory. It's why I've lurked so long - last year was NASTY here. Much nicer this year. Perhaps because there's more or an agreement on who's an a** in the house. Maybe after Roberts gone - all hel* will break loose. |
Beruthiel | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 07:13 am     Hear Hear! Jpgramma and Lisad, I agree 100%, but you both said it better than I could! |
Cantremember | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 07:38 am     Amari--you say Erika let Jack/David carry her--ummm I didn't see Dave or Jack win any HOH/Veto competitions nor did they eliminate one of the biggests threats to the game (namely justin). Erika played well by sticking with the ORIGINAL alliance until it was next to nothing. Now that she and Jack (the remains of the original alliance) are up, they need to find a new way. If Jack leaves, Erika is next unless she can regroup and vice-versa. With all the negativity that the remaining girls provide, it is no wonder Erika is trashtalking too. It all comes down to who played the game BEST--and I believe the women are the best players remaining. I hope they unite and get rid of the boys. |
Philamom | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 08:07 am     I have no problem with Erika joining forces with Jun and Ali. She needs to protect herself in case Jack goes and she stays. I think it's a great move, and I give her credit for doing it. I just don't think it's necessary to badmouth Jack in the process. I'm not buying that she's doing it to be "part of the girls' club." She already made the alliance with Jun and Ali, so putting Jack down adds nothing to it. It's not necessary. I heard a little of what went on last night, and Erika was belittling Jack. It didn't sound like BS to go along with the girls. I guess it's because I liked Erika and had a high opinion of her that this disappoints me. The things that Ali and Jun say don't bother me as much, because I didn't think that highly of them to begin with. |
Cricket | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 08:22 am     I agree with your theory on Dani, Lisad. I thought the same of her. I don't want to see Erika evicted, as I want it to be an all girl Final3; however, she needs to go on the offense now and really grill Ali to let Ali know she is not going to kick her out; that it was only Jack making the deal and the guys are lying to her to split the girls up. |
Toolhound | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 08:39 am     I don't think you can blame Erika for jumping off a sinking ship. Her and Jack's ship is sinking fast. Jack has done nothing but talk a good game. He has not won anything. Erika saved them last week and he let her down this week when he needed to show that he had something except talk. Now he is telling Gee that he knows it will probably be him that goes this week because he is such a weak player and they will keep Erika because she has played the game better than him. Convincing Gee that he is weak will save his butt and he knows it. I am glad to see Erika going in with Ali and Jun that is her only chance because with a friend like Jack she will be on her way to the beach house soon. |
Stro27 | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 09:05 am     Erika has won only one contest. A contest in which Jack could have easily won himself, but he let her have it. I don't like Jack much, but lets not try to skew things to make it seem as if Erika has been carrying Jack. Neither person has done much of anything. |
Vskatefan | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 09:55 am     I don't see the need for Erika to belittle Jack, either. Jack is still being at least somewhat loyal. I wonder what he would think if he knew Erika was doing this. I am disappointed in Erika for this although I can't blame her for getting herself in another alliance at this point. |
Toolhound | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 10:21 am     Come on Stro27. " A contest in which Jack could have easily won himself, but he let her have it." LOL!!! |
Stro27 | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 10:30 am     Both Jack and Erika said they could have gone on in the cage for several more hours. So yes, Jack could have easily won that competition. |
Tobor7 | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 03:15 pm     What do we know about Erika? She is 33. Never married, never divorced, no kids... what has she done in life? Like for the past 12 years? 21 to 33 years old is a lot of time to do stuff in life. She ever spill anything to anyone in a story? (Other than being a bartender?) Erika had what I presume was a bit part dancing in some flick called Dance with Me (1998) So anyone else have any info to add to this mystery? |
What555456 | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 03:19 pm     Tobor As Robert points out, she's a liar. Don't believe her about her age. She's not 33, she's really 34! LOL!!! |
Tobor7 | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 03:35 pm     Yeah. 34 dressing like a 16 year old. |
Dke1212 | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 06:37 pm     I hope Erika is the one to leave, I haven't liked her from the beginning. The only thing good about her, in my opinion, is her love of animals. I want a Jee/Jun final, not very popular on this board I know, as a matter of fact I would even rather see Ali get there instead of Erika, and that's saying alot! |
Reichenfan8 | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 09:15 pm     I'm glad (and surprised) to find that I'm not the only one sick of Erika! Nothing against her personally, but she's bored me since day one. I mean, I know people shouldn't be kicked off based on their entertainment value -- that's not what the point of the game is. But as a viewer, I can't help but want someone who is putting me to sleep to finally get booted. |
Tobor7 | Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 09:29 pm     How did she even get on the show? She shows no evidence of a personality. Maybe she got on cause she was Rob's ex and all his other exs refused? |
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