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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Interview with Arnold Shapiro: Archive through August 08, 2003

Xarph

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 10:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The site forbids reproduction of the articles without permission. Therefor I am providing links.

Interview with Arnie, Part 1

Interview with Arnie, Part 2

Wendo

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 11:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Great read! Thanks for finding this Xarph. (You find such good stuff on the 'net.)

Jen

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 11:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Very interesting! Thanks for the link. He just seems to be pretty uninterested in BB to me. I sensed more enthusiasum about The Family. Also, very condescending. I guess this is why he doesn't read the boards!

Jen

Misslibra

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 11:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Xarph, so we will see the other house guest in the other house, not on live feeds but TV and there is another twist coming... cool. :)

Jhezzie

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 11:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, brother. Put on your waders. The crap is piled high, lol. Thanks for the links!:)

Happycamper

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 11:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Xarph - Thanks... Good read.

Laisey

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 11:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Xarph - Thanks. An actual interview by someone who watches the feeds and reads the boards. Marvelous. I am so happy two of my cats got into an argument and got me so wide awake at 1:50 am ET that I decided the log back on and see what was going on. A great article, although some of the questions were a lot better than the answers.

C1mag

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 11:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good articles thanks. A.S. What a character! Glad to know they are checking out the web to get feedback.

Scorpiomoon

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 11:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Excellent interview, Xarph! Thanks for sharing.

You know, in that piece Arnie comes across as a pretty decent guy. Maybe people do give him too much crap.

Crossfire

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 11:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good read, thanks for that.

If I might add a comment, he does not come off to me as the worlds biggest prick & slayer of summertime TV as he is often characterized. What I read into that, is more of a separation of roles. It appears to me that he knows more about previous shows than the current one, which makes sense as I believe he stepped back a bit for this season.

I don't hate the X factor, but I realize that I have to give on this as I am definitely in the minority...he seems to have something of an inflated opinion of it. I'd like to know what he really thinks as I thought he sounded a little defensive of the concept, like he knew it was a sore spot.

C1mag

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 11:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cross I found him a tad defensive as well as if he has already heard it already and he was cutting to the chase before the interviewer threw that out. He's a funny character. BB is his baby so basically live with it or move on would be his motto. I love how he said that the internet viewers dreamed up the suggestion that krista ate durring pb&j. We all clearly saw it but he swears it was a fabricated internet issue. Like I said he's a character. I liked these articles and I am enjoying that show The Family. What about that Aunt Donna? What a piece of work she is.

Laisey

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 11:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1, Don't forget we also fabricated Krista locking the pig in its box rather than taking it outside one morning because Krista wasn't ready to get out of bed. I wonder what we can do about all of our simultaneous hallucinations.

Kalekona

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 12:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You watching the Family C1? I'm pulling for Mike... And Aunt Donna, well lets just say if she was my Aunt I'd be calling "THE" Family to come take care of her. :)

Laisey

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 12:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Kale, me too. I've had some relatives I cared more for than others, but never anyone like her. Of course, no one ever offered us a chance at a million dollars. So maybe I did have relatives I wouldn't have liked at all if I were around them in the wrong circumstances. On second thought, no way -- no one could outdo Aunt Donna.

Kalekona

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 12:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm really looking forward to when they find out who the board of trustees are..
(mike is the bald one right? That's who I want to see win..for so many reasons but the biggest is to Pi$$ Aunt Donna off.. (after all he "isn'tI family.)

Laisey

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 01:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree. I also want to see if any of them get upset at the fact that the "servants" were judging them.

C1mag

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 03:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I totally dig "the family" and Mike is Da Man! I'm rooting for that guy all the way. I like Jill as well. I don't know how she kept her mouth shut when Aunt Donna was reading her like that.

Ocean_Islands

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 05:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It sounds like Allison wears that pants in that partnership.

Bracken

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 05:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
So agree C1Mag, especially since it looks like it was Jill who found the show for the family to begin with, at least that is how I read it.

Knowing this now, I think it makes Aunt Donna look even worse in my eyes -- and I didn't think that could happen -- she really should have chosen someone else.

Go Mike & Jill!

Costacat

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 06:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm thinking these folks are still playing it by the seat of their pants. Instead of saying stuff was already done, "...things are being planned." That sounds like they don't know exactly what they are gonna do and it "depends" (maybe on who gets evicted?).

I didn't think there was a a conspiracy to favor one HG over another before (well, not much), but now I really do. They wait to see what's going on in the house before they develop a competition? How freakin' fair is that????

Also, FWIW, I think he lied a bit about Scott's ejection. I heard an interview with David on the radio the other day and he said the whole "oh, I'm scared he's throwing chairs" thing was BS. He said that the girls were around the corner, high-fiving and saying "he's so out" and THEN they walked into the room and said "oh you're scaring me you're too violent."

All in all, I am still pretty unimpressed with Arnold Shapiro. I think the interview was part BS, part PR (which, in itself, is part BS). I think Shapiro lives in a bit of a fantasy land. I also think that the memorable moments of last year (the Marci/Amy show) are not gonna occur this year.

My opinions...

Bastable

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 08:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Did you notice how he kept saying that Will was from the "first" season? It was only the first season that AS & AG did... pretty arrogant to ignore the contributions of the people who established the show in America.

Lovedana

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 08:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
To speak candidly: from the start of the show, BB hasn't had sufficient strength as a program to prolong its existence. I can speak for myself: The only thing that kept me really watching the show was my interest in human interaction and dynamics. It just seems to reveal something watching those folks.

Nevertheless, purely for entertainment purposes, BB would be dead by now. The show is normally poorly produced. The best was last season with entertaining houseguests. This year the editing has really improved. BB producers did best this season, yet we seem to be getting lower than its potentials from the houseguests. I really think the people sustaining BB on TV are the loyal fans. They're just as interested in human psychology. They don't say it explicitly, but their reactions to the houseguests' behaviors shows it.

Arnold should drop his arrogance just because there are loyalists. He seems indifferent toward the show. I guess he just knows the show has no merits in entertainment and as produced, so he just has the show as some extra source of income. He wouldn't miss it if it disappeared.

Bastable

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 08:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
He certainly doesn't seem to revel in the show the way the fans do. He is too businesslike. He doesn't know how to jazz up his fans, but I'll bet he's pretty handy in a network meeting.

Closetfan

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 08:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank you, Xarph!! Very interesting stuff! :)

Lovedana

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 08:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey, by the way, why are some of you shocked to hear the truth from the horse's mouth? There's a reason why they repeated the phrase "expect the unexpected" last year. They were covering their butt legally because they had plans to modify the program as they saw fit. They couldn't do that if it weren't a part of the contract, even if oral. So they thought the houseguests were naive and would be willing to take significant changes made to the program if they used that phrase continually. BB3 was an experiment, except BB wanted a chance to experiment at the same time the show was running. Then they could see what worked and didn't with the audience. Perhaps that's why they've hardly said "expect the unexpected" yet this year. They feel last year's new rules would work for this bunch, especially with the ex factor. If their rating is really poor this year, you'll start to hear "expect the unexpected" either this season or you'll hear it a lot next year. It's simply a way of accommodating last minute modifications to the show for ratings.