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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Editing - What makes the 'Cut' (ARCHIVES: Archive through August 01, 2003

Galelia

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jack saying 'bling bling' just made my night. Thanks Clubcarl. :)

I agree that the comment Ali made put her in a bad light, not Nathan. But really, to show it out of context puts the show in a really bad light.

After every show lately, except when Dana won HOH because that was surprising to me, I've wondered why I even watch.

Lurknomore

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Blu clearly I agree with your post nearly totally, but I don't blame Ali as much as I blame the producers. This had NO business making it on TV, let alone being a feature. Did they show Scotts STD as a feature? (ick sorry but just ick). And that was from HIS mouth and true. This had no place on the show IMHO.

And aw Lily thanks

Cliotheleo

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They can't edit it if you DON'T DO it. :)

Katlady53

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bluerose, I totally agree. Nate's sexual orientation is none of Ali's business (or anyone else's, for that matter). But what Ali said on national t.v. was slanderous in that it will definitely make people question Nate's sexuality and reputation. As I stated above, his sexuality is NOBODY'S business, but we all know it's not realistic to believe that the people who know Nate and his family (as well as total strangers) aren't wondering about him right now... :(

Foliage

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
YIKES! Did Jun really recently quit smoking? Not only do new non-smokers often substitute food for nicotine and oral satisfaction, her metabolic chemistry will hit the brakes!

Hey Jun: quit cooking, and take advantage of having a personal trainer and pilates instructor hanging out with you. Good times.

Lilycakes

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Not to turn this into a weight issue but I'd guess that a huge amount of the WOMEN on this board have battled (needlessly or not) the bulge and I'm no different than the majority here. Most of us can truly sympathize and admire Jun for her tremendous accomplishment. It still doesn't make up for her remarks that go on incessantly about others and especially when she's speaking of a completely innocent "victim" of this game (Ali's Mom). To me personally, it shows she has no empathy whatsoever.

Clubcarl

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lily I agree she hasn't shown empathy but once she's out of the project she'll learn some.

Galelia

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lilycakes: I agree. Empathy for the montage tonight and for her situation she finds herself in (weight, not the house), but no fond feelings at all about how she bashes the other houseguests.

I missed the Ali's mom comment apparently. Do I want to be filled in?

Cathie

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lurk, I wasn't directing my "If you haven't been there you most likely won't understand" to you--it was a general "you" that I meant. Guess the better way to word it was "if you don't understand then you probably haven't been there"

I had a similar weight history as you and also got fed up (no pun intended, lol) with myself a couple of years ago and dug into my savings to join a medically supervised weight program. I thought I was "too old" to lose, that the fat had been with me for more years than I had been skinny, but when a friend who is 10 years older tham me started losing with this program I realized I was just making excuses and that I owed it to myself to give it a try. I lost 94 pounds, down to my pre-motherhood days. I am still in the maintenence program and it is at times still a struggle, but I know now that I can control things (but I still break out and have a mini binge once in awhile!)

Crossfire

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Why would people who know Nate, and his family take her word over their own opinion? Does she have some credentials I don't know about?

Galelia

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Crossfire: Because if it's on TV, it MUST be true.

:)

I need to go to bed. I've piped up more tonight than the entire time I've been a member of this board (not that long, but still). Good night! :)

Katlady53

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Crossfire, I didn't mean to incinuate that Ali is some kind of authority on Nate. In fact, I don't think she's much of an authority on anything.

Cathie

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I also missed the Ali's mom comment--was it on tonight's show?

Bluerose

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Kat and Lurk. I will not go on all night about this but just wanted to clarify that When I said it doesn't matter if Nate is gay, I ment just that. It doesn't matter. But I picture him coming from a very conservitive back ground in Oklahoma with stupid ideas about being gay. Maybe I'm wrong but I hate the thought of him going back to that town after what Ali said. If he was from NYC I guess it wouldn't be such a big thing. End of rant.

Xarph

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
In my opinion, Jun deserves whatever she gets.

I rarely (if ever) hear Jun say something nice about anyone. On the other hand, I have seen her turn just about anything someone says about someone else into a nasty. One example was when they said Jack's girls looked like Jack. Jun popped back with "girl's are supposed to look like their mothers not their fathers. There were Jun's comments about Erika and Robert's dance demo.

I am usually quite empathetic towards people with weight problems. In Jun's case, I can not be. I do not like her nasty comments about people.

C1mag

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm a little lost how Nate being called gay would ruin his reputation. My brother is Gay and he has sworn from day one that Nate is gay. I personally don't care who the man sleeps with and I'm surprised the show edited that garbage in there. They need a gay hg so bad they are gonna make one even if they don't have him announce it? Strange editing on that issue.

I think it's odd that they would edit that childish stuff in there but totally avoid any mention of Scott and the warts.

There must not be much those editors have to work with if they had to do a segment on juns increase in weight. When are they gonna point out Robs ticks, picks, and twich's?

Xarph

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cathie, congratulations on that 94 pounds.

YOU GO GAL!

Gina8642

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
When Ali opened the HOH room for the first time, there was a new pic of her mom. Jun made a comment (that did NOT make it on air) that her mom sure didn't look skinny. Ali didn't hear the comment. Ali said in a seperate convo to Jack and Eirka that the pix was taken before the Mom lost a bunch of weight.

(I think Ali mentioned to Jun before that her Mom was skinny or that her mom had lost a bunch of weight. When Jun saw the pix, I think she thought Ali's statment was bogus.)

Again - this was never put on air.

Lurknomore

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1 it's not that Nate decided to announce he is gay (if he even is). It's that they made an entire segment around Ali saying he is, without ever mentioning this was just her opinion.

Now let's say he is. IF he wanted the world to know then it's his right to choose to share this info. If he's not then his rep can be tarnished for LIFE by this stupid segment. Lose, lose for Nate either way. And as for more reasons why this is bad see Blurose's posts on what his life will be like in the bible belt now thanks to this.

Hamsterlady

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And Cathie...going along with what Gina said....

I'm wanting to say it was something around 60 pounds that Ali's mom lost. (don't quote me) I had the feeds on but was picking up around my apartment at the time.

Hellokitty

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought Nate was gay as soon as he opened his mouth, he has that lisp...and like C1mag all my gay friends agreed.

Maybe he is gay and that is why the producers decided to use it in the show, perhaps he has no problems with people knowing, mabe he just didn't want to advertise it to the house from the get go.

...or, there is the fact that Alison is maybe thinking he is gay because maybe every other guy in her life has take her up on her, um...closeness ( ;) ) and can't understand why Nate hasn't gotten busy with her too, thus in her mind he must be gay.

You never know with these things, and remember they said something about there being no 'openly' gay people on the show this year.

Bridget

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What did Jun say about Ali's Mom?

Maris

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here is my take on it and it is a little diabolical. The cameramen and people behind those walls including producers have been watching Nate, et all gay bashing and going on endlessly at the drop of the hat about fruitcakes etc. They figured that Nathan is one huge homophobe and wouldnt it be fun to tell everyone out there in oklahoma land that he is gay. It is the ultimate payback.

I am sorry I thought it was great. He is so going to freak out when he sees that tape. It is kind of like that classic scene from All in the family where Sammy Davis Jr, gives Archie a big smack on the cheek.

C1mag

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I still don't get how it would ruin his reputation. I guess I come from an area ( south cali) where everyone just doesn't give a damn who is doin who.

I do agree that the show was lame in puttin that little segment together when they have other things they could have put together but I'm not getting how it could so tarnish his life. So if you are gay and come from the bible belt you are considered garbage or something? I don't get it.

Maris

Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1, I agree your sexuality has nothing to do with your reputation unless you are making money using it. lol