Amari | Monday, August 18, 2003 - 05:11 pm     I was completely floored by Justin basically doing nothing to encourage Jee to outstay the others in the cage. Jee seems to think so much of Justin, I really think he would have went all out to win if Justin had just kept giving him pep talks. Instead, he spent the evening dozing. I can understand him not campaigning against his partner, but why didn't he at least try to talk Jun into using the veto. He has done nothing at all to try and stay in the house. Is he just sick of it or OMG, does he want to get back with Dana? |
Missy2 | Monday, August 18, 2003 - 05:15 pm     I heard him telling Ali he wanted to leave. I thought maybe I misunderstood? I guess he has had enough...or maybe he wants to be with Dana? I don't know either way I think it sucks because he was such a strong player - oh well. |
Texasdeb | Monday, August 18, 2003 - 05:19 pm     Good point Amari: What the heck was Jus thinking? Maybe he thought either his buddy, Jee or his X, Ali would do something in his favor without any influence. It's understandable why he didn't try to convince Jun to use Veto: it would mean Jee would go up & one of their stooge pak would go. If he survives this eviction, he needs these guys to believe he remained true. |
Surreal_Badger | Monday, August 18, 2003 - 05:22 pm     Justin has been told several times that he's a "strong player." Perhaps he's just laying low, trying to seem less threatening? Although he does seem pretty resigned about the fact he's leaving, maybe he is hoping Jee and Ali will vote for him (his behavior certainly would encourage "sympathy" votes), and Erika will evict Robert in the event of a tie-breaker? or maybe the withdrawals from being HOH and the quick turnaround in being nominated are making him crave the "loving" attention of Dana?! It would indeed be a hoot if she gave him the cold shoulder, proving that she was using him (not visa versa as many folks surmised) |
Needmylifeback | Monday, August 18, 2003 - 05:22 pm     I heard him tell Ali that he wanted to go (yesterday when they were playing cards)...I think he figures that the votes are there so why not say that he wants to go to make it look better for him...plus he's probably counting on 4 weeks at a luxury hotel on the beach where he can surf (and drink Bellini's!) |
Missy2 | Monday, August 18, 2003 - 05:34 pm     Needmylifeback, I heard the same conversation. I'm really disappointed! |
Philamom | Monday, August 18, 2003 - 05:42 pm     I didn't hear the conversation, so I can't judge Justin's tone of voice when he said he wanted to go. But Justin doesn't strike me as the sore-loser type. And ... remember last week, in spite of all Nate's campaigning, he was evicted anyway? Maybe Justin just figures he's going anyway, and he doesn't want to go out like Nate did. I think he admired the way Jack handled his nomination last week, and he's acting the same way. Just a thought. |
Ginlei | Monday, August 18, 2003 - 05:53 pm     Maybe he figures Robert will do the job for him and he can just sit back and enjoy this week |
Tatyana | Monday, August 18, 2003 - 06:34 pm     Geez Ali is trying to convince Jun that she thinks Erica and Robert have something going on and they should get rid of Robert instead of Justin... he may squeeze through with a win |
R151996 | Monday, August 18, 2003 - 06:37 pm     Jun would be crazy to accept Ali's proposal, but who knows what might happen. IMO Ali is already in a decent position and is now starting to work it too hard. I would still expect a 3-1 Justin eviction unless Jun wants to bait Ali into forcing Erika to break a 2-2 tie. |
C1mag | Monday, August 18, 2003 - 06:44 pm     This was a very bad move on Alis part. Too late to come up with this little gem. Jun will babble all of this to Erika and it will only strengthen Juns desire to see Ali get the boot next week if she doesn't get the next hoh. Jun really is the better spider in this situation. Ali is sealing her fate right now. This is too funny. Jun will never give Ali the power she is desperately trying to achieve by keeping Justin in the game. He's done, over, and gone. |
Surreal_Badger | Monday, August 18, 2003 - 06:45 pm     Certainly the 2-2 tie would demonstrate Ali's UNtrustworthiness as well as reveal her ties to Justin -- whether or not he survives this week, it wouldn't bode well for Ali (and might deflect attention away from Jun as far as next week's nominations go). I think you're right, R151996, Ali is pushing her luck. |
Ocean_Islands | Monday, August 18, 2003 - 06:48 pm     Considering that Justin did not campaign to be on this show and did not ask to be on it -- and considering that Justin had never seen the show, or even heard of it, it's not surprising that Justin's sick of it. |
Puzzled | Monday, August 18, 2003 - 07:13 pm     Maybe Justin just desperately wants to get away from Ali. I agree that Jun would be out of her mind to go for Ali's plan. |
Widowswalk | Monday, August 18, 2003 - 07:27 pm     I think Justin's tremedous ego prevented him from urging Jee on in the cage. He would never beg to stay either due to his ego. He just assumes he will stay. He probably assumes that Jun and Ali will be starved for male attention if he goes so he is safe. He could be right. I hope he leaves and is surprised as hell. |
Spunky | Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 12:41 pm     I guess he's like one of those guys who get tired of fighting for something so many others are fighting for, he doesn't think it's worth fighting for. Well, you know what?? Kick him out and good riddance!! I liked him before but I don't like a quitter!!!! |
Jagger | Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 12:51 pm     Justin has been saying since he got in the house that all he wanted to do was make it to the jury so they would have to continue to pay him. He has made it that far so I think he'll be glad to go. |
Cliotheleo | Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 12:53 pm     Justin has somehow found out that I'm rooting for him and since it's an unofficial rule in this show that anyone I LIKE cannot win, he has resigned himself to leaving. ..... guess I'm gonna have to start alternating my weekends between him and Dave now (ha ha.) |
Xarph | Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 01:08 pm     1) Justin does not think he can win. He is too big of a target. 2) Justin is sick of Ali. He wants to get away from her. 3) Justin is looking forward to some fun time with Dana in the sequester house. 4) After calling Nate a baby, Justin needs to act cool and unconcerned |
Pengoh | Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 01:24 pm     The week Dana was evicted I remember Ali said something about how she felt so bad because she was ruining someone's dream of being on BB4 and winning etc and Julie said'isn't that everyone's dream?' I couldn't believe Julie said that considering some of the people on the show hadn't even heard of big brother until they called them. Obviously it's not your dream to be on big brother if you've never heard of it! |
Gina8642 | Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 01:31 pm     Julie seems a bit out of touch this year. Her whole bedmate comment to Alison regarding Nathan last Wednesday was about three weeks too late. She's also oblivious to the fact that many of the exes (Justin and Robert especially) have exhibted a lot of ambivilance about being on the show. Last year she seemed to have a better clue, like she actually was watching the show and keeping up a bit with the live feeds. This year, she seems to only be depending on the BB staff for updates, she has no idea if her questions are good or to the point or not. |
Cliotheleo | Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 01:32 pm     Erika said earlier to Ali that she dreamed last night that she was dating (or something) Will from BB2. Ali said, "ewwwww! ........... who's he?" Erika told her who he was and she replied, "is he cute?" Yep, that Ali's a big BB fan alright. |
Stro27 | Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 01:42 pm     Not much he can say that'll change anyones decision. |
Katlady53 | Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 01:56 pm     I guess I kinda expected a little more activity out of Justin, too. <<shrug>> |
Wgm | Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 02:11 pm     What if Justin knew that his HOH comption was rigged? and his quilty consince is telling him he should go. I think that's the reason behind all of his talk. He knew that it was rigged and he knew that it should not have been Nathan who was voted out. |
Sherri | Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 02:26 pm     I think he's trying to save face because he thinks he is going, so he has to make it seem like he is sick of the whole thing. It's like when you would play a board game with your friends when you were a kid and you would be losing, so you would just say it was a stupid game and you weren't going to play anymore. Face saving at its finest. And insofar as Justin not encouraging Jee, I think he put too much trust in his alliance with Jee and Robert. He seems to be smart and I am surprised he didn't figure out that at some point (especially after Robert bolted so quickly) they would both watch their own backs instead of his. Also, I've suffered from migraine headaches all my life. Robert was saying he was going to throw up. If he'd just stayed in and thrown up outside of the cage, probably everyone else would have bolted and he would have gotten some relief from the migraine (that happens alot of the time, at least with me it has for the past almost 40 years)! Gross, but could have worked |