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Cangaroo

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 11:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That's exactly what I mean Seamonkey...a lot of us took the opportunity to go see everything that we didn't while we were at home...I think Allison has just stayed to "her own kind" so to speak and even though she's not living at home, has not ventured out to check out all of the endless possibilities out there. To me, that says that even though she's adventurous enough to go on BB (even though I tend to think she just sees it as another form of beauty pageant), she's not adventurous to try anything truly different.

Costacat

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 02:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
In Alison's defense, she may not associate with adventurous or curious eaters. If you don't socialize with people who want to expand their food horizons, your own contact with different (and not necessarily ethnic) foods will be limited.

The fact that Alison doesn't know how to pronounce gouda or brie doesn't necessarily mean she's "dumb." Amy, last year, was a cheese freak. I'd bet she would've been able to pronounce those cheeses. The fact that Alison didn't know what sweetbreads are doesn't mean she's dumb. It just means she was not exposed to them. (And honestly, if I didn't live so close to Mexico, I doubt if *I* would know!)

Your eating habits are formed when you are quite young. For example, I grew up here in San Diego. I can eat a roadside taco in Mexico with no "repercussions." <wink> But others I know who've gone down south with me have gotten violently ill because they decided to join me. I finally wised up and always start with the caveat I've never gotten sick, but you may want to avoid eating these."

Along with the early years, your experiences as you get older also influence your eating habits and knowledge of different foods. And although I am still and always will be an "adventurous" eater, my sister is a pure steak-'n-potatos kinda gal (we laugh cause I never eat steak!).

Zachsmom

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 02:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh dear Costa..you can handle a TJ taco? I have had 1..yep 1! thankfully I survived, but I swore I was dying and was in the process of giving all my stuff away! and I grew up in SoCal!

Bonzacat

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 02:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Costa, I agree! Having grown up in TX, which is sometimes slow to catch up with food trends, I was never exposed to sushi. Upon my arrival in CA (while in my early 20s) I was introduced to it by family and friends, and was delighted to learn I had stepped into a wonderful new world of taste treats!

Alison will get her chance to do the same with all kinds of things - she may not like it all but at least she'll get a chance to practice the pronunciations.

Costacat

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 02:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yup, Zachs mom. TJ tacos. Ask me how depressed I was when lots of the corner taco stands became HOT DOG stands! Of course, I don't eat meat any more, so no longer indulge in one of those yummy tacos!

California has always had a wide variety of different foods to eat. Within a few miles of where I live I can eat Ethiopian, Indian, Cuban, Argentinian, Greek and several others (along with the standard Chinese, Japanese, Italian, German). When I travel (whether stateside or to a foreign country, the first thing I do is seek out where the locals eat so that I can eat local foods.

Although Alison has run the pagaent circle, I doubt if she'd have tried to eat anything outside her norm.

Oh, and forgot to mention... Taco Cabana. LOL! That *was* the first place I ever had a breakfast taco!!! (And spent the rest of the day humming "Taco! Taco Cabana!" to the tune of "Loca! Loca Cabana!" (Is that right? Just had a memory lapse...)

Funny... Nathan would've probably pronounced things the same as Alison. The two of them seem to have led a fairly sheltered lifestyle up to this point. Neither seemed to be exposed to much outside their family's immediate circle. I hope that their time in BB has opened their collective eyes to the big wide world out there, and maybe will encourage them to broaden their horizons (and their acceptance of others).

Bonzacat

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 02:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"Taco C" again..... I'm going to have to make a plane reservation by the end of the day. I want my fix, and I need to listen to their jingle again... can't remember, which means it's been too long!

Cangaroo

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 03:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, I wasn't just commenting on her lack of "food" knowledge. She truly seems to know about little else either. She knows very little about religion...ANY kind of religion. One doesn't have to be religious to know religion. Many people take an interest in different religions because that does define different people. It all goes hand in hand with hers (and Nathan's amongst others) comments here and there about being pure. I don't hold it against her for wanting to believe she's of "pure" blood, but to isolate oneself from the whole world because one wants to remain "pure" blood is truly close-minded. That's all. Food is just one avenue of learning other cultures. There's other avenues too, such as music, art and literature.

Costacat

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 04:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Canga, the point about her ignorance of food applies to the rest of her life. I know many people who are satisfied with the religion into which they were born and are not curious enough to go seek out information concerning others.

Ditto music, literature, art. Some people (and I'm not saying Alison is necessarily one of 'em) are just plain happy continuing to float along with the current (things as they are) rather than trying to swim where the waters may be more rough and learn new things.

It's all well and good for us to comment on her lack of "cultural" knowledge. But we don't know much about how she was raised, where she was raised, or with whom she associated as she grew up. Even though many of us here come from diverse backgrounds, I can bet that there are still plenty who are just happy with the knowledge they currently have and do not seek new information.

Hope springs eternal, and I only hope that Alison grows up -- and expands her horizons -- upon her exit from the BB house.

Kmjm

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 05:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Do they eat sweetbreads in Mexico? I always thought it was an English delicacy. (Not that I would want to eat it myself, yuk.)

I don't think that Alison is stupid, quite the contrary, she's just rather narrow in her life experience.

Cangaroo

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 05:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"I don't think that Alison is stupid, quite the contrary, she's just rather narrow in her life experience.".....kmjm

Exactly. I was not disagreeing with Costacat...I was basically agreeing, but adding that it applied to other areas of her life as well, as Costa later expanded upon. I grew up in the culture of white, meat and potatoes middle America, but that does not mean that is all there is...I agree...I'm hoping she will use this experience as a steppin stone to wanting to try other things.

Bonzacat

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 06:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just to add to what Alison has not yet experienced in her young life, she just mentioned on the feeds that she has never been out of the country.

Cliotheleo

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 08:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, NOW I've heard it all. Jee just said he paid $20 to use Kazaa for a year. He's actually paying to d/l music. Who does that? NO ONE!

Cangaroo

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 08:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Geeez, I thought Kazaa was free (or at least mine is).

C1mag

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 08:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hahahahaha I've never paid either. P.S. Go for Kazaa lite.

Cangaroo

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 08:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yep...that's what I have. There are mirror sites that offer it for free.

Tobor7

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 08:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have them all but I find imesh to be the best.

Cliotheleo

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 08:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
don't want to get us TOO far off track, but I've never heard of imesh, why do you like it better?

Cliotheleo

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 08:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ERRRR! Wait a minute, hold up. Started to install imesh and noticed it had Gain bundled with it which is one of the MOST annoying adware services out there. I think I'll stick to Kazaa lite.

Starr

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 08:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Im afraid to use any of the software to dl music with now I seen on CNN where people are getting sued for using kazaa an other programs you dl music from...TechTV has a list of users that are being sued for sharing music on kazaa

Cangaroo

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 08:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I started out with iMesh and ended up switching to Kazaa Lite instead...no advertising with K-Lite...with iMesh there's lots of popups and if you try to get rid of them (by going in the program and deleting them), it messes up the program. I've also found that I find more on my searches through K-Lite than iMesh, but that's just my opinion.

Cangaroo

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 08:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah? I'm wondering if I'm on that list, LOL.

Tobor7

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 08:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I use an older version of imesh.
I clean my folder after almost every DL.
I never let anyone DL from me. (Safer this way.)
(Never upgrade to new vers of these kinds of programs.)

Cangaroo

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 08:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hmmmm, Tobor has something there...
and I think somewhere I have my very first iMesh proggie stored (I tend to save everything whether I need is or not).

Tobor7

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 08:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Key is to install it. Then. when it asks to re-boot. Do not re-boot.
Run Ad-Aware and clean out and spyware that was installed.
When you reboot. It will work. No spyware. Few popups. Also, keep a browser open w/popupcop installed at FULL BLOCKING.

Auntie

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 08:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
kazaa is spyware AND scumware. they track you all over the web and sell the information to advertisers and spammers.

in addition, if you have kazaa on your machine, every time you click on an ad on any site, the site you thought you were supporting does not get the ad commission, kazaa gets it.

my sites are entirely supported with advertising revenue - amazon for example. when kazaa became popular, my ad revenues began dropping, and after investigation, i learned that kazaa software was replacing my amazon id number with their own.

my web traffic over the past two years, and my amazon click thrus have gone up 50 percent, but my amazon revenue has fallen 80 percent.

many small web hosts have had to close their doors or become subscription sites in order to pay their hosting bills because kazaa, gator, and others have stolen their ad revenue.

Cangaroo

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 08:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow, I did not know that Auntie...maybe the title of this thread wasn't just referring to HGs....

Laluna

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 08:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Xolox seems to work pretty well. I haven't d/l since the lawsuits against individuals started. In case you are looking for something to get rid of spyware, I found Ad-Aware by Lavasoft is a good program (free) that will identify and remove the hidden junk that comes bundled. The link to Lavasoft is: http://www.lavasoft.nu/ for anyone that is interested into taking a look at it.

Lostintheglades

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 07:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Tobor7 - I have used Ad-Ware for while but I never heard of Popupcop...just downloaded the trial. Ad-ware always worked great...but there were still a few sneaky ones getting through. Thanks for the info. I already see a difference!