I just realized... ALL HOH competition should be endurance...
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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: I just realized... ALL HOH competition should be endurance...

Rob_Robe

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 05:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i mean think about it... endurance competition is all about mental and physical ... and plus... i mean think about it... don't you see how CBS/BB4 TRIES to build suspense on the show... if they have all competition as endurance... the viewers without Internet or live feeds ... would want to tune in the next night ... and FOR US live feeders ... we would be hooked on the computer... drooling to see who wins.... o, how can CBS/BB4 NOT SEE THIS??? sigh... maybe i should become an executive producer for a show LOL...

Darkhorse19

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 06:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thats a good idea Rob but I think that if every competition was endurance Justin and Nate would when every competion.

Hokeypokey04

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 07:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That is a good idea, but instead of every week, why not every other because that may be almost too much for them. Or at least have a bunch all year. Like last year wasn't there 3? Two for HOH and that 1 for some prize at the beginning.

Bohawkins

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 07:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You might be surprised... endurance is not always about physical strength.

Incidently, I posted a similar suggestion to yours about endurance contests in the thread titled, "If any of you were in charge of the show. What would you do?". This was about how to improve BB (the thread is now in the archives)

Click here to check out that thread

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I mentioned in that posting about the "Hands on a Hard Body" documentary film. This is an annual contest which has been won by guys in their 70's. Older women have beaten out healthy young men. In fact, lots of young healthy people drop out. Endurance is about strength of will.

Justavice

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 09:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I also think the "trivia" type competitions can be swayed in favor of someone because the HG's frequently "study" for the competitions and are essentially telling Big Brother what they know and don't know.

Sbw

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 08:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I just wish the competitions would be fair. Obviously this competition was geared to Ali, Jun and possibly Erica; but apparently if she had been any taller the cage wouldn't have been tall eough for her. The guys were at a definite disadvantage and I don't think it is fair. Oh and BTW I didn't want the "guys" to win this one.... but I want to see an even playing field. BB is talking all the fun out of competitions, HOH in particular.

Mystery

Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 12:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the cage should have been tall enough to accomodate everyone standing up straight, too.

I like endurance competitions partly because they show who really wants to win HOH; it's easy to pretend to miss a trivia question but people can really see what you're up to in an endurance competition. Some of these alliances assume that everyone will be trying to win, and the endurance competitions show that that's just not true.

Spunky

Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 09:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd like to have endurance competitions until the end of the game. We will see Jee and Jack struggling and this time Jack won't feel pity for Jee and Jee will have to crash to the ground half dead...

Bonnyswan

Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 10:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I like the endurance comps too. And though it would seem the younger people would have an advantage I disagree...my mom won a car doing one of those "Hands on the Car" contests years and years ago,when it was down to 2 it was her and a college kid...she was middle aged and "fluffy"..not in the best shape but shes stubborn as all h*ll and it does come down to who wants it more.

Lancecrossfire

Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 10:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
As the game goes on, the HOH and POV positions have more and more impact on the game--and for that I think the competitions for them should also get tougher. If you are going to win them and impact the game, it shoudl cost you something (ie, greater effort).

I see nothing wrong with HG's being exhausted or put through the paces in order to be able to sway the game so much at this point and further into the game. The last HOH give the person the ability to decide who gets a shot at the pize money--that HOH competition should last for a couple days at least. And various types of tests-memory about other HG's, eating weird stuff, endurance under tough physical conditions, speed, dexterity--all those abilities tested. But test the biggest one of all--the pure will to make it through.

Emdanzma

Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 10:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with Mystery about the cage not being tall enough. The tall guys were clearly at a disadvantage from the get go.

An endurance comp is sometimes fun to watch. I remember BB2 when they had to sit on a waterbed (?) and keep their hand on some object. I think the cage was a great idea because they started off with more people crammed in together. But they all seemed to expect an endurance so they somewhat prepared by eating and using the bathrooms.

Bohawkins

Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 10:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Once I got busted at two in the morning for having an old unpaid traffic ticket and I was put into a holding tank with three very disreputable looking characters who kept saying things about my long hair and pierced earlobe (the cops made me take out jewelry earlier). It was truly frightening. There was one commode in the middle of the cell, so that was quite an inconvenience to say the least . Even though some friends of mine were working through the night to pay my fine and they finally did get me out, I wasn't released until 3 the next afternoon.

However, as unpleasant as that was, it was very doable, and I could have gone on for several days more. So I am not impressed with their pathetic six hour event. Of course, what made the BB cage not an endurance contest was that they violated the rule (it wasn't enforced) to face only outward, and they did their whisper deal making.

I really would like to see a true endurance contest where negotiation is not permitted.

Jagger

Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 10:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't mind endurance type tests, but for those who just watch the show it can be a let down, you tune in Wed to see who gets the boot and who wins HOH and they don't finish leaves a bad impression. I got my roommate hooked on the show this year, he has watched each show unitl after last Wed., and he was PO'd that he didn't get to see who won, he skipped Saturday's show saying he no longer cared who won.

Spunky

Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 11:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jagger... the Live Feeds suscriptions went up that week... for sure!!! The websites were so jammed they wouldn't open... at least not until much much later in the competition.

That's a sweet reward for those who are paying for Live Feeds...

Bohawkins

Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 03:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Check out this article in the NYtimes...

Beginning Sept. 5, David Blaine will spend 44 days in a Plexiglas box, 7 feet long by 7 feet tall by 3 feet wide, suspended over the Thames River in London. He will have just a set of clothes and a blanket, no food, and will receive only water via a feeding tube. He will have pens and paper to keep a journal (perhaps to be published later) and very little else to keep his mind occupied. His bodily functions will be handled with a small backpack containing diapers and a tube to urinate in.


Click here for article

This is pushing to the limit of how far someone can go without food, only water. . Of course, the houseguests had no water to drink in their cage, so 36 hours would perhaps have been their true limit. These houseguests lasting for six hours is a very poor example of an endurance event.

Karuuna

Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 04:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If he's going for 44 days without food, I sure hope he has a little extra padding going in!

Philamom

Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 04:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've seen David Blaine ... he's a skinny little runt, if I'm thinking of the right person. He's the guy who stayed in the block of ice in New York for a few days, isn't he?