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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Erica OR Jack?: Archive through August 22, 2003

C1mag

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 06:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
mrose lets just say that ali and Jun already are prepared for that last minute voting control by Jee and Rob. The girls are gonna look at them and tell them no thanks. We don't want to be in the finals with jack. LOL

And yes for some reason Jee and Rob in their dilusion believe they can control this vote.

Cricket

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 06:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm a little concerned because Ali & Jun are saying they won't say anything to the guys until Monday night or Tuesday after the voting. They shouldn't tell the guys at all. (Oh where is David when you need him?)

I want to see the shocked reaction of Jee & Robt when they find out on Wednesday night? That would be priceless. I wonder if Robt will hit Jee upside the head like he did Justin last time; typical stooge style, lol.

Sad to say, but I wish Jack had gone instead of David. He would be playing with the Stooges heads big time. Can you imagine what he would be saying to Jee right now?

Philamom

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 06:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks, Rob ... I thought I had it correct at the time I posted it. Course, things change minute by minute in that house, so by this point, I could be wrong in what I'm saying, LOL. Because now it sounds like they're sharing with Ali, but who knows?

C1mag

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 06:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cricket come Monday I don't think they will say anything to them. They thought maybe they would give them some b.s. so that they wouldn't be mad at them but Jun is right when she says they are gonna be targets of theirs anyway.

On a side note... You think Rob will even try for hoh? I think he won't and he will just let Jee be fed to the wolves. He figures Jee goes first. Then he can decide which of the girls to use to take him to the next round.

Mrose4243

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 06:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with everything you just posted, Cricket, especially about David - I really miss him!

I really hope the ladies don't tell the guys anything and we have deja vu all over again with Erika staying AGAIN!

THAT would at least make the show watchable on Wednesday!

C1mag

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 06:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Mrose. The idea that it's the mirror of week 2 with the same person holding hoh and the fact that he wants the same person out is too funny. I hope they keep their mouths shut.

Mrose4243

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 06:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
BTW, C1, its really Robert who is the driving force to get Erika out since the beginning. I think Jack's biggest mistake was thinking Justin was the mastermind of the 3 stooges. Its been Robert all along who's been influencing Jee!

I think you expressed a similar opinion in one of your many posts! :)

Meggieprice

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 06:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I need clarification- did Jee tell Robert and Ali not to tell Jun or Robert and Jun not to tell Ali?

Philamom

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 06:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm still not sure what's going to happen. I'm not as convinced as everyone else seems to be that Jun is going to vote to evict Jack. Jun is a really good liar, and I don't know what her devilish mind is really plotting.

Spunky

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 06:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She said, he said... that's what's happening in the BB house.

Erika knows all about it already!! Why can't Robert figured it out???? Jack told Erika first, because Robert told Jack. Then Jun and Ali told her..... and Jee told Erika in a thousand ways...

Now, if Ali and Jun can actually stick to their plan they'll be doing us a favor with some exciting moments during eviction and we want a repeat of the bummed out look on Jee and Robert's faces.... and Jack for that matter, t'was about time the FBI agent got the truth, nothing but the truth, the girls are smarter! :)

Unbiased

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 07:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Soon as Rob finds out that Erika and Jack have dissolved, I'm sure he will want to keep Erika. In fact, the more he finds out about just about anything, the more he will want to keep Erika. Does Rob even know about Jun/Jee yet?? If Jee/Jack allign, the Rob is on the underground hitlist, because neither of Jee's other allies will want him around. That is, unless Ali or Rob gets HOH, in which case Rob and Ali will then be in the same boat. So, provided he knows about Jun/Jee, its just a matter of which girl to link up with: Ali (by keeping jack, who will ditch ali for Jee) or Erika, by keeping her. Erika is far more trustworthy (than ali) TO PEOPLE WHOM SHE KNOWS CAN HELP HER. She is very observant, and KNOWS that Rob will be ripe for the picking next week, and will need her to survive. His distaste for her will likely NOT get in the way this time, because it's getting down to the end, and also because some of the tension has been cleared, somewhat. Basically, if the girls vote out Erika (and they probably won't, for their sake) then Rob has to kiss Ali's ass, rather than Erika. However, kissing Erika's ass would be much easier, far more effective, and much more beneficial, as Erika will ALSO be ripe for the picking, once Jack leaves. So, whether Rob knows it yet or not, Jack leaving would be in his best interest. And what's funny is, even if he doesn't see it before voting day, and votes Erika out, she still may stay anyway. As I see it, the game (and I mean the endgame) is in Rob and Erika's hands, and I would bet money on a Rob/Erika/Ali final. Money....

Lisad

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 07:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Can I ask if Ali has gone to Jee/Rob that Jun is voting jack out? Or vice versa?

C1mag

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 07:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa no. In fact a bit ago Rob asked Ali who jun is gonna boot and she said Erika. Rob said she is lying and Ali said I don't know it sounded like she was being honest. Then Ali added a twist and said I think she is evicting Erika cause she thinks you( Rob) and her have an alliance. I'm tellin ya that Jun and Ali are playing together and being honest with one another at this point. They need each other and need Erika in the game in order to move on. Jack serves no purpose for them and they know it. Ali has already told Jun that Rob told her( Ali) to tell Jun to evict Jack so that she won't know that Erika is really going. Cause Rob wanted Ali and him to evict Erika and shock Jun. Ali also told jun this as well. Ali would never have told her that unless she was playing it honest for now.

Spunky

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 07:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If these two (Jun and Ali) can pull this off up until the POV meeting, then they deserve to be in the finals.

They should all three, however, gun for Robert and Jee, otherwise their alliance will go to pots even before Wednesday...

Cricket

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 08:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I sure hope they're on the up and up too and can pull it off. Ali has such a big mouth, I don't know. Jun asked Jee earlier if he wanted her to throw HOH next week. Maybe she is just baiting him. She also confirmed that Jee's alliance with Robert comes before her and Jee's alliance, so she said "Okay, so Robert must go."

If the girls pull this off, JEE must go and fast. They can work Robert. Unbiased, excellent post and you totally got Robert right. He is so clueless in this game as to what is really going on, it's pathetic. He is the driving force to get Erika out and every time he does it, it backfires.....on Jee, ROFL!

Wendo

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 08:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Rob and Philamom, it's entirely possible that Rob and Jee told Jun to evict Erika and not to say anything to Ali.

However, last night when Ali was in the HOH room with Rob and Jee they reaffirmed voting out Erika and not telling Jun.

Of course, if Jun and Ali are definitely working together, the above is moot because they want Jack out.

Maris

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 08:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I saw a conversation today where Ali told Jun about them wanting to evict Erika and not telling Jun. At that point they both said they were going to evict Jack and tell Robert and Jee it is gameplay. They tossed around the idea of not telling them at all and Jun said she is inclined to say nothing till before the vote. As Ali said to Jun do you want to keep Jack and have it three men against two women or do you want to keep Erika and strengthen their chances. Unless they have changed things, I believe that Ali and Jun will vote out Jack.

Cricket

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 08:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1, regarding whether Rob will try for HOH, he may try and if he loses, he'll say he threw it, lol. I haven't really noticed him in comps...is he any good?

So if he isn't trying in order for Jee to be a target, that will leave it open for the girls if Jack goes. Oh Happy Day! :)

Spunky

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 08:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It surprises me that neither Jee nor Robert realize that the girls must know Jack is aligning with Jee and that Jack would nominate Ali and Jun. Do they think the girls would want to keep Jack??? They're not sharp these guys.

Meggieprice

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 08:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that Jee believes Jun and Robert believes Ali. Hope the regret it.

Maris-did Jun say before the vote? Ack- I hope she meant before the eviction.

LOL- will there ever be a week when we are SURE who will go?

Maris

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 08:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She said before the vote because she and Ali were laughing at the idea of using Jees words.... Its a game.

Pirate

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 09:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I want Erika to stay. I hope Ali and Jun vote to evict Jack. I think the three girls need to stick together now.

Gina8642

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 09:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Robert is the only one who doesn't know that Jun knows that Jee/Rob want Erika out.

After Rob/Jee (really Rob) decided Erika should go, Robert decided only Allie should know. He wants Jun to feel left out and only find out when the votes are revealed.

Jee then had 1 on 1 meetings with all the other HGs the night HOH was won.

Jee told Jun everything (during their 1:1) but told her not to say anything. As far as I know she has yet to reveal to anyone, including Allie that she knew Jee/Roberts plan all along (via Jee).

Allie told Jun today (and possibly before) that Jee/Rob want Erika out. Neither Rob nor Jee has been told that she's spilled the beans. (Beans Jun already knew... Jun didn't say anything to reveal she already knew.)

I think this info is up to date, but I've missed the last several hours.

Lisad

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 10:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Gina - I was looking for that info. Couldn't watch feeds tonight. May get on since it sounds like something's going on over there.
Wish they were on CST!

Babyphat69

Friday, August 22, 2003 - 10:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think ali shouldn't be trust I think that they should put her on the block and save Jack so that they have 3 guys and 2 guys left..