Archive through August 06, 2003
TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1:
Is Nathan a metrosexual?:
Archive through August 06, 2003
Missy2 | Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 01:35 pm     I love that Nathan laughs when they question his sexuality. I think its great! I love him if he's gay or straight! |
Draheid | Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 02:06 pm     Interesting details about the term here: Wordspy.com: Metrosexual An article on MSNBC.com here: The Metrosexual Makeover Even Bomis' (the host of TVCH) Wikpedia says: Metrosexual Note: this is just a couple found when using google to search for the term. Hope this helps. |
Laisey | Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 02:15 pm     Draheid, Thanks. Urban life style, that explains it. Here's the definition if anyone else is curious: metrosexual (MET.roh.sek.shoo.ul) n. A dandyish narcissist in love with not only himself, but also his urban lifestyle; a straight man who is in touch with his feminie side. |
Lovedana | Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 02:27 pm     <cw> In any case, Draheid, that's a great link. I hope people click on the first link. The etymology seems very interesting. It fits exactly my suspicion. It didn't made sense to me that people would be formulating an all new vocabulary when one already exists to describe a guy that's "in touch with his feminine side." There's sissy, effeminate, etc. already. So I deduced that "metrosexual" likely had more meaning. I guess that goes to prove that words lose their originality when they're recycled over and over by means of circulation. I'll take Mr. Simpson's definition. The emphasis on the word seems to be narcissism displayed through his urban lifestyle, not whether he's straight or gay or bi: "He might be officially gay, straight or bisexual, but this is utterly immaterial because he has clearly taken himself as his own love object and pleasure as his sexual preference." Using that definition, I am reminded of Marcellas. And Nathan very much fits that definition. |
Max | Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 02:35 pm     So it sounds like metrosexual is just a newfangled term for narcissist (however you spell it). Hmmm. come to think of it, maybe they created that word precisely BECAUSE no one could remember how to spell narcissist!  |
Delilah | Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 02:39 pm     LOL Max and Squared  |
Grooch | Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 02:50 pm     What's wrong with the old word that they used to use? Fop. Main Entry: 1fop Pronunciation: 'fäp Function: noun Etymology: Middle English; akin to Middle English fobben to deceive, Middle High German voppen Date: 15th century 1 obsolete : a foolish or silly person 2 : a man who is devoted to or vain about his appearance or dress : |
Maris | Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 02:52 pm     I can go with Fop. |
Laisey | Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 02:54 pm     Grooch, fops don't have to live in an urban setting, metrosexuals do. |
Grooch | Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 03:03 pm     Well, then that's discrimination then! Grrr..... |
Charjo | Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 03:11 pm     To heck with hand massages and foot therapy. Give me the man with the lawn mower and weed-eater. Now, that's the kind of metrosexual I want! |
Ocean_Islands | Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 03:13 pm     Are women narcissist because they go to the nail salon, Max? |
Max | Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 03:41 pm     That's not what I was referring to, OI. I was referrring to the definition proffered of the term metrosexual and saying that I think the definition sounds pretty much synonomous with narcissist. Personally, I think this whole labeling business is a bit over the top. |
Beruthiel | Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 04:03 pm     From a thesaurus: Fop: dandy, dude, swell, buck, coxcomb, macaroni, exquisite, and 'gay blade'. Slang: toff, snappy dresser, Dapper Dan, Beau Brummell, etc. The type has always been around, just the description changes with the times. Since Narcissus comes from Greek Mythology, the type has a very long history! Nathan would have been quite at home in classical Greece. I'd disagree though that they aren't restricted to metropolitan life, because most rural dwellers didn't have the time nor the resources to fart about looking good all day, LOL! |
Laisey | Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 04:50 pm     OK. One more time - urban lifestyle. (I thought the metro had to mean something.) (MET.roh.sek.shoo.ul) n. A dandyish narcissist in love with not only himself, but also his urban lifestyle; |
Grooch | Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 04:58 pm     I like the word dandy also. |
Beruthiel | Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 05:00 pm     But I thought Nathan was from a small town?  |
Laisey | Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 05:02 pm     Just be careful that the dandy is not also a cad. |
Laisey | Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 05:04 pm     Beruthiel, he is. Shall we have a vote on whether he is a fop or a dandy, since he can't be a metrosexual? |
Costacat | Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 05:05 pm     From Salon.com:
Quote:The typical metrosexual is a young man with money to spend, living in or within easy reach of a metropolis -- because that's where all the best shops, clubs, gyms and hairdressers are. He might be officially gay, straight or bisexual, but this is utterly immaterial because he has clearly taken himself as his own love object and pleasure as his sexual preference. Particular professions, such as modeling, waiting tables, media, pop music and, nowadays, sport, seem to attract them but, truth be told, like male vanity products and herpes, they're pretty much everywhere. For some time now, old-fashioned (re)productive, repressed, unmoisturized heterosexuality has been given the pink slip by consumer capitalism. The stoic, self-denying, modest straight male didn't shop enough (his role was to earn money for his wife to spend), and so he had to be replaced by a new kind of man, one less certain of his identity and much more interested in his image -- that's to say, one who was much more interested in being looked at (because that's the only way you can be certain you actually exist). A man, in other words, who is an advertiser's walking wet dream.
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Beruthiel | Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 05:08 pm     Well, Laisey, I'm voting for dandy rather than fop, because then he can be a "yankee doodle dandy", while 'fop' sounds more British, if you know what I mean, LOL! |
Seanflynn2003 | Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 05:12 pm     If Nate is sequestered in Cancun, would he be considered a Mexisexual? |
Laisey | Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 05:15 pm     Beruthiel, LOL. I've been wondering if anyone would realize yankee doodle was a dandy. |
Katlady53 | Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 05:18 pm     Heck, at this point, I'd settle for a total slob so long as he cut my grass and took out the trash. |
Beruthiel | Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 05:24 pm     LOL! I'm just wondering why no one jumped on that mention of 'gay blade', after all the chat on the topic! |
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