Archive through August 02, 2003
TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1:
Nate hate must stop.:
Archive through August 02, 2003
Imz | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 05:11 am     3 reasons Nate hate must stop. 1. He’s the first to admit he’s the bronze not the brains, so enough about his questionable intellect. 2. Nate hate is such thinly veiled jealousy. I’m embarrassed for all you Nate haters, really. Don’t hate a guy just ‘cause he’s prettier than you. 3. Get over it. He’s not gay. Although, if I was in that house with those women, I might turn gay. |
Missy2 | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 05:36 am     You must be a nate lover? I think hate towards any of the houseguests, is ridiculous. Rule #1: Its just a game. Dana annoys me but I'm sure she is a nice girly outside of the house. |
Cp01_Wales | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 05:50 am     I like Nate now i wasnt his biggest fab before but after seeing what poison Ali has been saying about him i feel sorry for him. |
Beachmama | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 05:57 am     I love Nate.. have since the beginning. |
Ocean_Islands | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 06:01 am     Once and for all: it's 'brawn' -- not 'brawns'. |
Cliotheleo | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 06:02 am     Not "bronze" it's "brawn." (although that may be what he'll ultimately win, the bronze, you know, instead of the silver or gold.) Bronze is a metal, brawn refers to physical strength and it doesn't have an "s." There, there's our vocabulary lesson for the day. Incidentally, "brawn" is also another word for head cheese which just so happens to the meat from a hogs head, boiled and then congealed in it's own juices. Sounds pretty tasty huh? http://www.foodreference.com/html/fheadcheese.html Now I may call him "my little head cheese" but I SWEAR I mean that in the lost loving way possible. And you're right, he probably does annoy me (I don't HATE him) because he's prettier than me. But check it: I'm a GIRL. But my real reason ........... he's responsible for my true love being evicted .......... and he's going after my OTHER true love. A girl can only have so many true loves kicked out of the house before she breaks. But kind of going along with what Missy said, I have to dislike SOMEONE that's what makes the game fun. ........... and the "I hate Dana" line is WAY too long for my tastes.  |
Maris | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 06:47 am     I agree,when you get to the point where you are hating a houseguests, its time for a 12 step BB program. |
Sugarplum | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 07:53 am     I love Nate!!!
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Spyder | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 07:54 am     I laughed so hard when Nate said "I'm the BRONZE, she's the brains" (sic) I almost started a thread about it. One of the classic BB lines now. The worst thing about Nate (IMHO) is his alliance with Ali. I would have more respect for him if he had chosen Jack or Dave or ? Why Ali? At first I thought it had a sexual component, but according to Ali . . . . |
Minnyace01 | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 07:56 am     I'll say this for Nate - I think that he is basically a good guy, with a good heart. The problem that he has with his views on blacks and homosexuality, probably stem from his upbringing back in Oklahoma. I'm sure that his views on those subjects are the same as those in about 75% of the state. That doesn't mean that they are right, and it doesn't mean that he should be excused for having them, but I hope that it helps explain why he may have them. |
Sugarplum | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 07:57 am     I thought he said brawns, and that he just made it plural coz he said brains. ????? I agree that he should've chosen someone other than Ali though. |
Costacat | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 08:06 am     FWIW, I don't hate Nathan. Nor do I think he's particularly attractive, so the post about having "thinly veiled jealousy" is very inaccurate. I don't think he's the sharpest tool in the shed. If he's gay, or not, is his business. But we *are* allowed to debate what we see in the house here at TVCH, so please explain why discussions "must stop." I don't have much feelings for him one way or the other. I don't care if he stays or goes. I don't care if he wins or loses. I pretty much don't care. Much as I feel for the rest of the people in that house. If you don't want to read negative posts about Nathan, I would suggest that you read only the posts in his fan thread. Because every single one of these houseguests is open for discussion (negative and positive) based on their actions in the house. All of the above is my opinion. |
Philamom | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 08:08 am     The correct word would be "brawn" if he was implying that he was strong. But I have that episode on tape, and I just listened to that part of it several times ... whatever Nate said was plural, with an "s" or "z" sound at the end. It's hard to tell, cause Nate has an accent (LOL, to this Philly person's ears, anyway), but it sure sounds like he said BRONZE. And I don't hate Nate, I don't hate any of them. There are a few that I like more than others, though. |
Mpls | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 08:12 am     Well, in reading the thread about the unfair editing, there are many posts in there from people who had just heard Nathan as well as Robert say there is no way they would allow their daughter to bring a Black guy home as a date. So, Nathan uses the Bible as a sword to justify his being the chosen, righteous one to win this game. He is homophobe and is racist. What oh what is there to like about this guy? |
Sugarplum | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 08:13 am     Philamom- oh, i wasn't implying you hate Nate, or even that you would be wrong for hating him. I just assumed that maybe i'd heard it wrong coz i aint used to ANY american accent, let alone his accent. Lol. |
Kittenz | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 08:14 am     You gotta love those curly blond locks of his though. He's like a greek god. It's always nice to have something pretty to look at while watching. |
Sugarplum | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 08:18 am     Mpls- I haven't seen Nate say any racist comments like that. That's awful what he said. I'm a lil behind on what's going on in the house! I still like him though, in the sense that he's interesting to watch. It's just a game and what we see isn't necessarily what any HG's personality's are like. I couldn't say I completely like anyone or hate anyone 100% if I don't even know what they're REALLY like! |
Spyder | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 08:25 am     I was watching the episode with a bunch of people and we all heard "BRONZE" It has now become a kind of injoke. What makes it so funny is not just the fact that Nate got a word wrong, but how strangely apt his mistake was. (and ironic) |
Mpls | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 08:25 am     I didn't witness it either Sugarplum, but as it is reported by different posters who had just seen it on live feeds, I have to believe it true. While obviously it your absolute right and prerogative to like whomever. I do not like or admire bigots of any type. I disagree that because it is a game their true personalities or beliefs do no surface. These opinions do not have anything to do with this game these are a reflection of his personal belief and attitude. |
Aus10 | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 08:30 am     I'd like to think that each and every one of us has at least "one" good trait that we can like about each other.......even Nate. (Although I can't particularly think of one just yet.) Or Dana? (nope..no go there yet either.) Or Allison...(help me out gang, I'm drawing a blank.) Or Robert....okay, finally got one....at least he doesn't flick after he picks.....or does he? |
Maris | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 08:30 am     I agree Costa, once they walked in the door all their actions or inactions are up for discussion and criticism. If people were only allowed to post positive comments what exactly would be the point? I do make an effort not to make personal comments about the HGs but I will say things like so and so is not the sharpest tool in the shed because they have given no indication that they have any grey cells that they are using. I do not think that Nathan is the brightest bulb and I form that opinion based on what has come out of his mouth. At the same time, I dont understand the venomous hatred people have for houseguests and honestly,it disturbs me to read some of the things that are said about some of them. Especially when the hatred that is directed at them is BECAUSE they supposedly say terrible things about other people. I dont love or hate any houseguests most of them pretty much leave me with ho hum. Some I care for less than others. I dont care for the HGs that sit back and do nothing and I hope they are out of the house soon or else it is going to be a very boring two weeks if they make it to the end. People like Dana, Alison, Robert, Jun, Justin and Nathan would keep the house interesting especially as they fight for the finish. Erika, Jack, Jee dont, in my opinion, give any value to the show. If they win then it will be another Lisa win. Not that I begrudge Lisa for winning but who wants Big Brother shows where the successful strategy is to sit back and do nothing. Next year, will be a dead bore, if there is a next year with 12 houseguests sitting around doing nothing but competing in competitions. The fact is once this weeks POV was won, it has become a very boring week because we know who will go. Having emotional and slightly unstable houseguests is in my opinion what makes the show interesting. As far as Nate is concerned, I dont care for his bigotry or his comments and his looks do absolutely nothing for me. |
Theowl | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 08:31 am     I don't know for sure, but I thought Imz just said those thing as a silly joke. I thought it was funny and cute the way he worded and spelled it. Come back Imz and explain, OK?  |
Sugarplum | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 08:38 am     Mpls- Just to clarify, when I said that their true personalities don't show I was not referring to Nathan's racist comments because he wouldn't say it "just for the game". He obviously meant it, and I think it is an awful thing to say. What I meant was that I wouldn't say I hate everything about him because I don't know everything about him, just what is shown on tv. I therefore would never 100% hate or like any one of the HGs. |
Justareader | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 08:39 am     I am not from OK, I am from the Midsouth. True Racism is not based on location, it is based in ignorance and intolerance and hatred. I know many people that were not exposed to different races and once they were - they did not seem to make ignorant racists comments such as Nate has uttered. I do not think his comments are based on hatred (therefore his "racism" may go away with some exposure. Also, Isn't that a black Congressman from OK? If the whole state was truly racist I don't believe that would be so... Maybe Nate should be pitied, not hated. |
Cricket | Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 08:52 am     Imz, you're talking about the Houseguests hating Nate, right? I think Nate meant "brawn" and just said "brawns" and Ali the brain. All I know is, he is much kinder to her than she to him. I'm feeling sorry for Nate because Ali seems to be trying to destroy him. I think it's her way of justifying eventually putting him up or voting him out. Jack and Erika were discussing race talk by Nate going on...something Jun had said, but they hadn't heard it. I don't think Jun is any better in some of the things she has said. LOL, even Dana told her she was worse than Dana in the mean things she has said. That was funny. |
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