Spunky | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 05:57 pm     So if it is Dave out wouldn't you think that Erika and Jack and Ali and Nate would stick together? It looked to me that Erika and Dave were making deals with them just to keep David but once he's gone, the heck with them. Erika, Jack, Nate and Ali should stick together. |
Bastable | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 05:58 pm     So to recap, we think the eviction votes will be: Erika-Jack Ali-Jack Nathan-Jack Jun-Dave Justin-Dave Jee-Dave Robert-Dave Edit: It can't be a tie, but if it could, Dana would choose to evict Dave. Agree? Disagree? |
Kalekona | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 05:59 pm     Erika doesn't trust Nate... But Jack will want to stick with the original allience, so who knows what will happen. (why is this wrong and "feels dirty" but lying to Michelle was fine?) |
C1mag | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:00 pm     Spunk Erika and Jack are in the best position. They don't have to try for hoh for the next two weeks. Just let the house eat each other up and sit back. You know Ali and Nate won't nominate you and if you make a promise to the other side that if you get hoh ( which you won't try for) you will nominate nate and ali then they would not go after you. If Nate and Ali get hoh then of coarse you are forced to vote out one of Danas side and if the other side nominates Ali and Nate then you are forced to vote one of them. Just play it down the middle. |
Maris | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:00 pm     I dont know but Nathan told Jack to relax and not to worry. |
Jan | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:00 pm     can't be a tie, can it? Looks like Justin is the swing vote..isn't he the one that wants to keep Dave but is going along with the rest? |
Kalekona | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:01 pm     I wish these people could see that they are all doing the same thing. Ali is just as evil and catty as dana or jun. They are stuck in that house but does that mean they have to like everyone that's there? And Dave is going. |
Spunky | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:02 pm     I don't think the originals will vote for Jack IF THEY FIND OUT THEY'RE VOTING DAVID OUT!! It could be David UNANIMOUSLY!! Now, how long is it going to be for Dave to run to his alliance and tell them he's out? |
Maris | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:02 pm     Jack will do what Erika tells him to. As Jack has said all along, Erika has a handle on the game and we should have listened to her when she said not to evict Amanda. |
Lucymac | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:02 pm     Well there won't be a tie because 7 people are voting. I don't think Jack had any intention of aligning with Jee3 and DJ and I think Erika is going to be mad they made the deal to keep Dave and then went back on it. So I think Erika and Jack will stay with Nate and Ali next week. The only way Erika and Jack may not go with Nate and Ali is if Jee3 DJ get HOH again and they decide to save themselves. |
C1mag | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:05 pm     Kale but the big difference again is when Jun and Dana go off they all join in. When Ali or Nate goes off it begins and ends. Notice Erika didn't say anything. Jack hasn't said anything. Danas side of the house has been down right childish. They won't let it go. They keep their hatred as a team as if it is mandatory in order to be in that alliance. There is a difference. Really the only reason I want to see Nate or Ali win the next hoh is so that this stuff will stop for a while. It's uncomfortable. There will never be a scene with nate and Ali and Erika and Jack sitting in the hoh crucifying Dana. Ali and Nate may do it together but thats all you will hear and we are more likely to just hear back patting. you won't see the cop routine either. |
Kalekona | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:07 pm     I think they are using the "hate" thing as the common bond that ties them together. Just as the originals used the eX factor. oh hello talk about vindictive..nate and ali want to not only see dana on the block but on pb&j as well...that's just mean. |
C1mag | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:09 pm     Whats mean about that? Dana said she wanted to sit next to them to torture them emotionally. Again this is just Nate and Ali verses a whole side of the house talking like that and Nate is even saying don't let it get to you. If we get control she's muzzled. |
Spunky | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:11 pm     Well, a just deserve, she'll be so cranky that she'll push the panic button... just do it and put me out of this misery!!! geez, I hate to use a laptop!! |
C1mag | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:11 pm     And can you believe that the whole reason for the hatred was because one person wanted to get out another person and they didn't include someone in their deal making? and the hatred is at this level for those reasons. Now THAT is petty! I guess they better get honest and say durring next nominations that because you wanted to get me out I want you out LOL |
Kalekona | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:12 pm     And the Lord is on their side according to Nate so they will win.. |
Kalekona | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:14 pm     The hatred is at this level because they are in that house with nothing else to do or think about. And watch it will change week to week. |
C1mag | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:14 pm     Well roberts lying too Erika. She asked why Jee put her up and he said he didn't know and the truth is he robert wanted her out. But dana said it was Nate that wanted her out. He sure mumbled over that one. LOL |
Spunky | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:14 pm     But what amazes me is that no one is trying to blame Dana for the whole mess... Why can't someone tell them : It's your fault, you should have put them up together, now don't go and blame Nate for your own bloody mistakes!!" We need Nicole to do this for me!! |
Bastable | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:15 pm     I can't believe how self-righteous Nate is. He really think the sun shines out of his butt. I so resent people who think they have direct access to the mind of God, that they are somehow anointed by Him. Nate has had life too easy. |
Maris | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:17 pm     C1, that can all change. It wasnt that long ago that when Nate and Ali went off they had people throwing rose petals in their path. They are down now, not out. Things in that house change day by day. I dont feel any empathy for Nate and Ali being the only two on one side, in their arrogance they did a really stupid thing in not telling Jee and co how they were voting and getting Michelle out of the house. It was a nice trick but in the end very costly. It even cost David the game. Nate, Ali, Dave and Erika were all high on themselves when they thought they had Dana on the ropes. Things just changed and it can change again. If Dana can keep her alliance of five together then she is good. Her best move today was saying that they were not going to bed till everyone agreed on the eviction. They went all over the place today between Jack and David and in the end it was really Jun who made the call. So while some see Dana as a control freak, the only thing she really insists on is that the alliance stick together. That is something Nate could not do. You cant lie to your alliance and then have their support. They lied to Dana. They lied to the HOH Jee about who was being evicted and they lied to Erika as well about using the POV. So it looks like David goes because he made antoher stupid move today he told the men in the alliance one thing (he would nominate Alison and Dana) and the women something else (he would nominate Nate and Alison) because he assumed that the "Ex" alliance was like his own. They will lie to each other. Dana is also not promising long term anything to her group she is just promising two weeks of peace and then its every man for himself. That would sound reasonable to me. I would take the two weeks. Two weeks in that house is a long time. |
Spunky | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:21 pm     What lies?? Dana, Jun voted out Michelle as well. The only poor bugger who was really bummed out was Jee, why didn't Jun warn him that Michelle was out??? Nope, the problem is another one: A bad mistake by Dana and Jun jumped on it. |
C1mag | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:22 pm     See Rob and Erika realize. They are on cruise control. Don't try for hoh just play it low you aren't a target for two weeks. and Robert full on lies to her saying he has never lied. He wanted her out and only her and worked like crazy to taint her to jee and justin, but I agree with both of them. They are now in the best positions. Just lay low and let the wolves eat one another. P.S I don't feel sorry for Nate and Ali either however, I'm sick of the ostrasizing just because they played the game. Get the right ones out and that will change. |
Maris | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:25 pm     Michele did not go out unanimously. I think it was 6-2. Jun and Dana were still part of the original 8. Dana thought it was Erika all the way up to the end and an hour before the vote they told her it was Michele and if she didnt do it she would be on the block the next week. |
Spunky | Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:28 pm     So, can someone tell me if Dave is talking??? I mean, they must let him know he's out, right? That's why they wanted to talk to him, or did they leave him hanging under the assumption he's staying?? So, if he knows, the last honorable thing he can do is let his team know about it, or are they still doing the 'surprise' thing? |