Archive through August 12, 2003
TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1:
Robert is starting to grow on me anyone else?:
Archive through August 12, 2003
Gina8642 | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 08:47 am     The short answer - NO The long answer: While I agree Robert has some redeeming qualities (love for his daughter, fierce loyalty to male friends, extreme sensitivity to racism), IMO Robert is a misogynist (a person who hates women). And I just can't tolerate that. By now, each of the remaining HGs has done something I've found truly offensive. So, I'm not really liking ANY of them. On the other hand, each has some redeeming qualities that I like. However, Robert right now, is at the bottom of the barrel in my book. He's earned that position in my book from: -(1) his unrelenting casual misogyny (In casual conversation he refers to women as 'the b$tches' and 'wh$%es'. Not just when he's angry or p$issed, just in general.) -(2) his unrelenting two faced-ness around Jun and Dana. -(3) his constant unfounded attacks on Erika. (My favorite: Rob - "Don't let her fool you about her age" Justin - "She says she's 33, how old is she?" Rob - "33 - but she's turning 34 this year." Umm Rob, that she isn't lying or deceiving... So, NO, Rob is not growing on me, if anything my repulsion toward him is growing. However, I'm not going to start saying everything about him is terrible, because it is not. Nor, I'm going going to necessarily start rooting for the boring twins (Jack and Erika) just because the Jee3 contains Rob. |
Justareader | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 08:49 am     I have been hurt by a lot of kinds of people but I don't act like a boorish, self-absorbed misanthropist! Robert just needs to try to be a better person - he is unapologetic and downright proud of the person he is. And as far as the "Cuban machismo" agrument in his favor I have seen in other threads: I have known many good cuban men that were not like that at all!! And I lived in South Florida for 5 years! No, I don't like Robert. Jee and Justin have proven to have redeeming qualities - so I am not a jee3 hater... |
Philamom | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 08:50 am     You make some valid points, Lorry. I think we get a warped view of some of the houseguests. Many of them probably don't act outside of the house as they do inside ... there is no need to, really, since they're not trying to win half a mill in the "real" world. Even so, I have the most trouble with Robert and his views and attitude. He seems like a bit of a misogynist to me. |
Brenda1966 | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 09:42 am     If a person only watched the show and didn't read about the live feeds, Robert could look like an okay guy. I wouldn't want to date him but I now understand how he lands women like Erica -- he salsa dances! Dancing and laughter are the key to my and many women's hearts... |
Gina8642 | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 09:50 am     Robert is incredibly sweet to a woman's face. Like Brenda says - he likes to laugh, he dances, etc. It would definately take awhile to catch on to his attitudes toward women, especially out in the real world. How on earth would you know what the new guy in your life says to his friends in private until you got to know him and his friends better? |
Bonzacat | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 10:03 am     OMG - No. He has shown love for his daughter and compassion when a few of his fellow HG have been upset, but beyond that his words and actions have been repulsive. No need to expand on this - it's all been covered here and I agree. He's a <M> - run like hell or he'll suck you in... (IMHO) |
Bonzacat | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 12:00 pm     I think it's awfully hard to answer the original question posed in this thread without allowing your train (of thought) to leave the tracks and veer off into the land of opinion and moderation. It happened to me and I think I am as mild as they come... but I did it, and I really didn't mean to! Sorry to all. My thoughts are pure, really -- . So I shall simply say, "IMHO, no." |
Bonzacat | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 12:01 pm     Costa..... Bellinis, please!!!! |
Skyraider | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 01:03 pm     Yeah, he's starting to grow on me too...I find my finger creeping up to my nose for no reason at all. I'm also considering finding a grandmother to move in with since being a "former restaurant manager" doesn't pay all that much. His attitude towards women is REALLY disgusting too. As Jack said to Erika, "What did you EVER see in that guy?" |
Xarph | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 01:16 pm     Well, I think the Robert is <rs>. Everything he does is so totally <rs> that it makes me <rs>. Anyone who could <rs> is also totally <rs>. Make no mistake about it, when Robert gets out he will be <rs>. Jun is totally right about Robert when she said he ws <rs>. <rs> |
Ladytex | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 01:20 pm     Dang, Xarph! Tell us how you really feel! LMAO |
Bonzacat | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 01:22 pm     Once again, Xarph has presented everything in a concise and expertly phrased paragraph.
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Hamsterville | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 04:55 pm     He's starting to grow on me-just like fungus. |
Bitsnana | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 06:29 pm     The more I watch him, I am so happy it is totally unlikely I will ever run up on him anywhere.<MK> |
Darkhorse19 | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 06:41 pm     Stop being mean to Robert he has feelings too... He's just a man that has been hurt by a lot of women. Think of it like this... If a dog bit of your hand would you still like dogs??????;) |
Moderator | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 06:47 pm     Xarph, you wouldn't be impersonating a moderator would you? That's a (calculating in head) $500 fine, I think! (K) |
Pannie | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 06:48 pm     Robert is growing on me like a chia pet: something I never wanted and never will want. ;-) |
Nathalia | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 06:52 pm     Um...NO...Ewwwww....I was so glad that they didn't do a montage of Rob's nose picking habits tonight like they did with Jee's toothbrushing. |
Twiggyish | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 06:54 pm     ROFL at Xarph! Robert grows like mold. Mold is stinky and it needs to be disinfected. |
Seamonkey | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 06:56 pm     Everytime Robert shows a good side (and he does have a few good parts of him.. mainly in his support of Jee at times and in his feeling for his little girl) then he heaps up 10 things that make me run for the hills |
Kmjm | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 07:02 pm     Yeah, Darkhorse, I might think first next time before I stuck my hand in one's face but I wouldn't hate all dogs if one bit me. Heck even if TWO bit me! I don't get how Robert has been hurt by women. He admits to being a former drunk, a womanizer and a compulsive cheater. I'm sure a few women have walked away from him, but what's the big tragedy that's happened to him? I'm sure if he had any stories of being shafted by women, we would have heard them by now. I think that Robert is just <Mod hd>. He refuses to admit that this is his responsibility so, in order to make himself feel better and superior, he dumps on women. Everything wrong is THEIR fault. Since he is addicted to casual sex, he resents that he has to be nice to them to get what he wants. Yuck. |
Bonzacat | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 07:04 pm     What Sea said! If only I'd said it so well the *first * time I tried... |
Niceguy | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 07:23 pm     The show is being edited to make him a kind of anti-hero with something of a damaged heart. He is successfully staying in the game. I don't he'll win it all but he's looking like final three more and more. Justin seems to be searching for his moment to betray Jee and Robert. I think he feels it should be sooner than later. I'm ambivalent about him. |
Missy2 | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 07:27 pm     no |
Xarph | Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 07:27 pm     Dear Miss, MS or Mr. Moderator, re: Your 6:44 Post to me I know it is bold of me to argue with God, but in this case I am innocent. Far from needing to pay a fine, I need to be paid a bonus. I self moderated my own post thereby saving you the time and effort of doing it. I also saved TVCH the embarrassment of having my feeling for <rs> exposed until such time as an official moderator could police my work. It did not attempt to hide my efforts. I used my own initials, rs, to mark the moderation point. I did not attempt to impersonate any known moderator. I know that some people assumed that 'rs' stood for something like the defecation of the class of rodent that looks like <rs>. but I can assure you that this was not the case. Now, the terms of my bonus. I will not be so crude as to ask for money. What would be appropriate is for me to get one free pass at a post moderation. In specific, I would like to be able to post the picture of Costacat after she has licked up a gallon of that "b" drink. I think this is only fair. I have been making that request for several days. If you insist on assessing me a fine rather than paying me a bonus, you can just <rs>. Respectfully, R.S. |
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