What were Jun's parting words?
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Sherri

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 02:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kaili - read in an AS interview today that the HOH competitions would probably be the only thing the sequestered HGs are allowed to watch. Nothing else.

Pannie

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 07:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yep, Jun was sure frank with Dana. Maybe Dana would appreciate it? It could result in a "no vote" from Dana, depending on who Jun's competitor is.

I also saw it as Jun cutting her losses. Dana was not a buddy or asset anymore. "See ya on the flip-side when ya chill out pal".


I like it that these BBers aren't slobbering their pseudo-luv for evicted housemates. Wasn't it Nicole of BB2 that professed love and gratitude for EVERY ejectee. That was sure phoney.

Niceguy

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 08:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know, I thought Danielle's <M> goodbye speech to Gerry last year was pretty nauseating. That will be my only jab a Danielle this season so lets not start o.k. folks? Please.

Actually, I generally walk out of the room into the kitchen during the maudlin goodbye messages.

Muse

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 10:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I like seeing honest goodbye messages, but I think it's pretty silly of Jun to do it to members of the jury. She's a fairly good player. She should know better. I don't think you can compare the situation to Nicole or Danielle, either, since those people ruined their chances by ways totally unrelated to the goodbye messages. And I think a lot of people who left the house liking Danielle did indeed like her goodbye message...it was just later that they changed their mind. :)

Jun is in a different situation, where the goodbye video is basically her last contact with the evictee before they come back to vote for the final two. She doesn't have to overdo it, but *some* sucking up would probably be smart, IMO.

Gina8642

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 10:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Exactly what Muse just said - I was going to post something like that, but you said it even better than I could have...

Bracken

Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 04:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that this goodbye message was personal as opposed to gameplay. Don't forget that Jun was the other nominee.

Dana constantly said that she plays the game her way and there is no BS, etc. She did go to the Stooges and expect their vote. She campaigned and campaigned hard. She told Jun that she only went around to find out how popular she was for eviction and if I'm recalling this correctly "If the whole house wants me out, then I'm out. And she also made a statement to the effect that she wanted it to be 6-0 rather than 3-3, she even said it to Julie.

I think Jun was speaking the way she always speaks to Dana, although it comes across as much harsher when you are evicted and watching her from a plasma screen and she isn't sitting right next to you.

I think Jun gave her plenty to think about during her seclusion. I take her comments to mean -- You got what you SAID you wanted -- 6-0. Now that the vote was unanimous, don't dwell on it and obsess about every moment of the game, move on and enjoy the jury experience (as they are all expecting to be secluded at a resort.)

Could she have chosen her words more carefully and been more sympathetic, sure! But, again as somebody already stated, we don't know what goes on in the DR and how it is edited.

Don't forget that even Jack made some pretty harsh comments the week of Dana's HOH. He seems to have recovered his sensibilities since then. However, if the DR folks could get Jack to make such negative comments, I certainly think they could get Jun to do the same.

Costacat

Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 07:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Just one comment: The reason Dana wanted a 6-0 vote was that she wanted there to be NO POSSIBILITY that she would be evicted by Ali's HOH vote. Ensuring that the vote was 6-0 would guarantee that Alison wouldn't be responsible for her eviction, but that the HOUSE would be.

As far as whether Jun was intentionally mean, I don't think so. I think Dana would understand the honesty underlying Jun's words.

Chy

Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 09:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow, I am glad I clicked on the thread.
I missed that part too, they had a manhunt in this area and had to break in. I didn't even realize the "parting" did not mean if Jun goes, I don't know what I was thinking...

Here's the thought. Looks like Qt--- there has it word by word(?).
"I don't think anyone else in this house, at this point, really wants you here anymore. At the same time, we did shared a lot of laughs. Just take this game for what it is, as a game and really cast aside any personal feelings you had or hurt you had and just move on from here."

Qt didn't say what facial expressions Jun fashioned, but if that's the speech, it doesn't sound bad to me.

Grooch is right, too. Who knows when or for what purpose she gave those words? It could've been part of Jun's practice campaign speech in DR after "encouragements".

All that said, what will self-proclaimed ocd Dana hear in that, though?
That's the only aspect which counts. Imagining Dana sitting and allowing those words to chew on her now possibly fragile ego!

Like many posters, I don't have a favorite person in the house to pull for. But I do look at Jun with great interests. Justin is correct saying how people acted in the house is not necessarily how the person is out side of the house. (For once he said something good.) She's playing smart so far, may be she'd have a reprise if she makes Final and we will find out what she really want the evicted to think about.

Sorry I didn't have time to read all posts above me, if it's repetitive, sorry!

Nexell2

Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 01:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun was just being truthful. Dana will realize it some day. She was very controling and she had to go. Deep down I think she knows this.

Oregonfire

Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 02:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I haven't followed the show much, but I've found Jun's truthfulness hard to take before. She's too blunt a lot if the time, and not always for the other person's benefit. How you say something is just as important as what you say, and I think Jun's supposedly helpful honesty would work my nerves if I were in that house.

I hope that if Jun is evicted, another HG does her the "service" of being blunt about her leaving.

Sorry, not a huge Jun fan. She ain't all that and a slice of cheese.

Widowswalk

Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 03:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm not a big Jun fan either but I loved her parting speech and I think Dana deserved it and more.

Costacat

Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 05:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun just found out that the goodbye messages are heard when the evicted HGs walk out of the house. She really thought they wouldn't see it. And she said "Oh well, I guess I won't get Dana's vote." She's sitting on the couch talking with Robert and Jee and (I think) Justin.

AND she just realized ALL of the HGs heard her messages. Amanda. Michelle. She did say nice stuff to David though (she says).

LOL!!

Omegabubbles

Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 05:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun has nothing to worry about. The only Hg's that even pretended to like Dana are Jee, Rob, and Justin.

Beachmama

Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 06:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just posted about this on the "did you see" thead.. it's so funny, she had no idea that the HG's see those messages when they interview with Julie. LOL