Archive through August 14, 2003
TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1:
Food competition...not PBJ again!!:
Archive through August 14, 2003
Xarph | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 12:49 pm     Shell fish are not part of the manatory diet. |
Catfat | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 12:50 pm     Or how about the sheriff in Arizona who feeds the inmates meatloaf every night? One prisoner objected, saying he was a vegetarian, and the sheriff replied, not to worry, there's not much meat in this stuff anyway. LOLOL |
Kalekona | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 12:57 pm     and the "mandatory" diet can be adjusted. Discrimination is discrimination period. |
Prisonerno6 | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:01 pm     Sounds like the guy who sued AI for age discrimination, since the rules said no one over a certain age could compete. Rules is rules, as they say, and if you can't play by the rules, you can't play. I have a bad back. I wouldn't be able to stand for 6+ hours. Should they change the rules of the endurance competition to allow anyone with a bad back to compete? |
Sherri | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:10 pm     For something to be "discrimination" in this instance, according to the definition, it would have to be based on prejudice. Doesn't fit in any way into the food situation. Prejudice doesn't have anything to do with the pb&j situation. The pb&j weeks are simply the consequence of losing a competition, nothing prejudicial or malicious about it. |
Kalekona | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:12 pm     Your saying it's ok to restrict an entire group of people because they can't eat a certain food? The PB & J diest can easily be adapted, the point is it's one food for one week and it needs to be something that will keep them alive and functioning, adapting that diet is not changing the rules. Rules of a show that have changed yearly anyway. |
Kalekona | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:15 pm     Sherri if you refuse to allow people from a chance on the show simply because they can't eat peanutbutter that's discrimination. Just as it would be if they didn't allow any gay HG because they wouldn't be hooking up and having sex. |
Prisonerno6 | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:19 pm     Any food you pick you will find someone who is allergic to it. I have one friend who is allergic to eggs and chicken and another who is allergic to wheat. Both have ended up in the hospital in the last year because someone unwittingly fed them food they can't eat. If you start changing the "food restriction" rules based on food allergies, you will have nothing left. You could argue that any food restriction at all eliminates diabetics, since restricting them to one type of food for a week will mess with their insulin levels. |
Sherri | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:22 pm     Sure its okay. Its a game that noone is required to participate in. Just like anything else. Not all of us can fit all the requirements of any given game. I can't sing, but should they change the requirements of American Idol so that doesn't discriminate against me? Please. And don't even go to the gay deal. It has nothing to do with what is being discussed and is a whole different realm. Not allowing someone who is gay on the basis of what you said would be discrimination because it is done with PREJUDICE against someone's sexual orientation. Just because someone doesn't like or is allergic to pb&j is completely different. I would have been restricted from Bachelor because I'm not single, as I would have been restricted from Joe Millionaire and Bachelorette. I would be restricted from Survivor because I have various medical problems that would prevent me from taking part in the show as the rules are written. That does not mean I am being discriminated against. Just because every opportunity isn't available to every person, does not mean it is discrimination. |
Kalekona | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:23 pm     I can say when I downloaded the application before BB# no where did it say you had to be able to eat peanut butter. |
Kalekona | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:29 pm     no the example i gave about being gay had nothing to do with prejudice, it had to do with the fact the producers want people in house to hook up and have sex, it gets ratings. Brandon was kept off the show because they knew he wouldn't compramise his values, same thing. Not being single or able to sing is not the same as having a food allergy. The PB&J is not the enitre show, mearly a small part of it. And i'm sorry if i wanted to be on the show and was denied only because of the peanut butter, you'd better believe i would make a stink. As i've said it doesn't say you must eat peanut butter in the application. And the rules are, that the rules can be changed at any time. |
Gigglesalot | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:37 pm     I thought Brandon was not a houseguest because he tried to call his girlfriend while he was sequestered? Am I wrong? |
Kalekona | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:39 pm     I've heard him say he felt it was because they found out he wan't going to comprimise his moral beliefs. the offical reason is he called his girlfriend (but we all know that others that did get into the house did the same) |
Gigglesalot | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:42 pm     I guess I missed the conversations where the other houseguests said they called their loved ones while sequestered before the show. I didn't know it was a fact. |
Kalekona | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:44 pm     I honestly don't remember 100% who it was but I believe it was amanda and Scott. |
Zachsmom | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:46 pm     Brandon wasn't put in because the producers or whoever decided he couldn't handle the sequestering. Not because he attempted to call his girlfriend. |
Gigglesalot | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:46 pm     As far as the discussion on PB&J for a week if they lose the food competition, it's called a sacrifice. For losing, they're sacrificing the benefit of eating a variety of food for a week. Whether they eat PB&J or something equivalent would be based on a known allergic reaction or not. I too downloaded the BB4 application and do not recall seeing a requirement that I would have had to eat PB&J. I think it would be something covered in the interviews and if someone was picked with a known allergy there would be a "new twist" to the game and another food would be picked that year as a sacrifice for losing the competition. |
Sherri | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:55 pm     If the rules are that the rules can be changed at any time, then saying that an individual or group has to eat only pb&j for a week would not be discrimination, in the true sense of the meaning of the word. And I can guarantee that you would get nowhere legally down that avenue, because the situation doesn't fit the legal definition. You could pitch whatever fit you wanted and it wouldn't matter. Noone is ENTITLED to appear on a game show. |
Sherri | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:59 pm     Of course, that being said, the pb&j wouldn't bother me because I like peanut butter. And, also, it doesn't say that one would actually have to "eat" the "p" of "pb&j". You could eat just bread and jelly if you wanted. Or just jelly. Or just bread. Or just drink bunches of water. There are all kinds of combinations available to these people - most not appetizing to the hoards, but choices nonetheless! |
Costacat | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 04:26 pm     Oh please. If you applied for BB and managed to get all the way thru to the physical examination part, you'd probably not make it any further if you couldn't come to an agreement about peanut butter. If you were one of those who is so allergic you can't even be in the same room, there would probably be no way you'd make it any further. Sherri brought up a very valid point... I can't sing either. But I am not going to go apply for AI and ask them to change the qualification rules for me. I know I can't sing, so I will not apply. I know I would never be able to eat any of the really disgusting items on Survivor, and so I don't apply there either. It's called common sense. Of course, there are always people who will cry discrimination when there is none present. And those people would lose their case in court. You are required to pass certain examinations and evaluations (including felony checks). If you fail anywhere along the way, you're outta there. That's life. |
Xarph | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 04:32 pm     Costa, even though you can not sing, you should still apply to AI. I'll bet you can purr real nice!  |
Demsome | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 04:34 pm     Maybe if a houseguest was allergic to peanut butter they would make them eat something else like a tofu product or something. Wonder if they have a phony peanut butter product made with tofu.. like phony baloney made with tofu? Cause any food eaten exclusivly for a week would get old, not just PB&J. |
Kalekona | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 04:53 pm     That was what i was saying to begin with Demsome... |
Cricket | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 04:57 pm     Seanflynn stated: "Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 10:11 am -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The reason for the sponsoring is not the saving the cost of the food (to mix metaphors, chicken feed in price) but because the sponsors pay the producers substantial bucks for product placement and having the HGs gush over how excited they are" Oh yeah! Did anyone catch Jun's comments last night on the show? It sounded like a commercial for subway when she talked about how 'low fat' their sandwiches were and how she cooked with a lot of fat. I didn't realize they never have PB&J two weeks in a row. I thought Dani was on it two weeks at a time last year. With all the 'subbing' these hamsters do with garlic bread, etc., it's not really PB&J this year anyway. If you sign up for the show, you sign up for PB&J. I like peanut butter toast, but haven't heard any of the guests talk about that. If oil and garlic are considered condiments, does that mean that butter is too? Does that mean they could have toast with butter and peanut butter or toast with butter and jelly/jam? |
Wendo | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 05:00 pm     "I didn't realize they never have PB&J two weeks in a row. I thought Dani was on it two weeks at a time last year." Cricket, it is possible for some HG's to be on PBJ for more than a week if the group food challenge is completely lost. However, it's a harder challenge to lose than the ones where there are two teams of HG's competing. I consider butter a condiment. |
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