Archive through August 15, 2003
TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1:
America's Choice:
Archive through August 15, 2003
Xarph | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:21 pm     If they set up an Internet Vote such that a human with mouse can do the voting, then a computer program can be easily created to replace the human for that specific task. Some sites try to avoid the problem by setting a Cookie. That is easy to defeat. Some sites try avoid the problem by recording the voter's IP address. This is easy to defeat. There is only one form Internet voting that can not be defeated. I have only seen it used once. |
Twiggyish | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:31 pm     I voted for Robert for two reasons. I want him to talk to his daughter and second, I don't want Jack to be a target. Robert is not my favorite, but he does have a child. |
Lancecrossfire | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:34 pm     I think they should have had an 8th choice--that no one gets any outside contact. I'd like to see if many people would vote for that. I know I'd spend a buck for that choice. |
Wargod | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:40 pm     Me too, Lance. |
Angelsluv | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:44 pm     Who's spending a buck? |
Sherri | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 02:07 pm     Voted for Robert. I think he's done admirably not drinking in the house, and whether he's said ugly things or not, I think a letter from his daughter would help him along on his 12-step road, and I'm all for supporting anyone who wants to fight an addiction, being a 12-stepper myself. Gotta agree with Kalekona - I was a 7-year old not living with my dad and I got just as much out of writing him as receiving from him. |
Lyn | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 02:24 pm     Voted for Jack |
Avrey258 | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 02:43 pm     I voted numerous times for Jack and Erika. Kale, I have a question about that Robert fansite that you posted on. Do you have the address for that? I can't find it and wanted to see what kind of response he has gotten recently in light of his most recent comments regarding women? Sad that Robert seemed to forget that everything he says is being recorded. I wonder if he would change his tune if he could go back and do it over again? |
Kalekona | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 02:52 pm     I found the site on I think it was sirlinksalot. Most of the mail to the site was anti Robert, but i haven't been to the site since i wrote the e-mail so don't know what the response is now but would imagine it's the same as it is here, unless the site is moderating it. |
Xarph | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 02:53 pm     The Official Robert Roman Fan Site |
Eeyoreslament | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 03:23 pm     OMG kalekona, you are on the site Xarph posted!! Brilliant!! |
Crazydog | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 03:35 pm     I had forgotten that Robert was responsible for the rumors that Erika used to be a man. I find that reprehensible. I have never voted in the past, but if this was a still in a phone in vote, I would pay just to cast a vote against Robert. |
Kalekona | Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 04:00 pm     probably because it was the only positive e-mail they got. Robert didn't start that rumor, whoever owns that site started it and used certain things Robert has said to try and give it a possible touch of looking possible. |
Juiceman | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 12:41 am     Whoa people!... there is some really uncalled for comments about Robs daughter in this thread?! First of all - let's leave the guests children out of this please? No one ever talks about guests children but now suddenly Robs 7 year old is fair game for dirty comments?? Why shoot at Rob in particular anyway? Will Allison's future daughter be raised to use her body to influence men? Will erika's future daughter be influenced to surgically enhance her breasts? Is Amanda's future boy being trained by her to be a manslut? Come on, I think every parent here knows that we obviously don't raise kids like that. Besides, I don't think anyones children are allowed to watch BB. (I hope not!) Its an adult show. I wouldn't want my child hearing Erika call Jee a 'Korean piece of S**t off a F**ing immigrant boat" or watch Amanda and Dave getting it on in a sex/barf night! All parents in here did and said rude and stupid things to our friends when we were young and certainly did not raise our kids with based on that! I think we all use the 'do what i say.. not what i do' rule alot and Robert is no exception. [For the record - my Dad was a womaniser yet my sister was more safe from womanisers than any girl alive! My Dad was on to bad intention teen boys before they got even got to the doorbell!] ------ Second - I went over Robs fan site (and Kalekona's letter was excellent) but it only REPORTS the rumour that Erika is a transexual.. then the webmaster clearly states he/she does NOT believe the rumour is true! I've seen that rumour at other sites too. Its just a silly thing like Nate having an ex named 'Frank'. Actually - Robs fansite seems to be just like Him - rude, crude, kinda ugly lookin and really really funny lol! Personally I voted for Robert to get a letter from home because he seems extremely sincere about missing her badly and despite his 'jock-talk' Robert is staying sober and in my opinion has a big heart. In any case - lets keep the children out of all this negative comments. Its below the good nature of this forum I think? Ok Im done ranting and raving for now LOL! Cheers! |
Lisad | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 01:45 am     My thinking is Robert will get it. My question is... If Robert gets a letter/talk with his daughter. Will this render: 1. Him getting motivated to play harder & win for her? 2. Him wanting to go home to be with her more than he currently does? He's complaining bigtime that he wants to leave right now. What will the letter do? Ya think it will DE-motivate? |
Eeyoreslament | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 01:58 am     Personally, it depends on WHEN he gets the letter. We've seen in plenty of other reality shows, once a person gets the letter from the family, the other contestants vote that person out/off, out of sympathy for them seeing their family. I feel the others do this, because they see it as a good opportunity to vote someone out, under the ruse of a noble reason for eviction. ("I know you've been missing your [daughter/boyfriend/family]") Assuming Erica puts up Rob and Justin, and nobody uses POV: If Robert gets the letter BEFORE the vote, he could have a good chance of going, as people will want him to see his daughter(yes, I think they will selectively forget the sequester house). If Robert gets the letter after the vote, then I think Justin is going. |
Philamom | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 07:06 am     Isn't the voting going to be live again next week? So, whoever wins America's choice, he/she would have to get the letter before the vote. I can understand why people (even those who aren't particularly fond of Robert) would want him to get a letter from his daughter. My fear is that if he wins AC, he will gloat. He already thinks the world loves the J3, so can you imagine how much winning AC would inflate his ego? I think the gloating/cockiness would be the stronger emotion, and he would demonstrate that over any happiness he might feel over getting the letter. Maybe he'll surprise me and just take the letter and be thankful. But somehow, I doubt it. |
Justalittlebean | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 07:26 am     I voted for Erica. My husband retired from the Navy and my 2 children went for 6-8 months at a time without seeing their father. And when he was at sea, no phone calls, just letters. He retired 10 yrs ago, so we weren't lucky enough to keep in contact by computers like today. It was Roberts choice to be away from his daughter because of money. It was my husbands choice to serve his country. If Robert missed his daughter so much, he should have stayed home. Whats more important, money or your daugher? |
Juiceman | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:02 am     Where I come from a lot of men (and women) leave home to work for 3 months. It certainly does not mean money is more important than the child - it means you make sacrifices for your children and the future. Once again - what is with this? Many guests have had children and no one ever said they were choosing money over their children?? I don't think Chicken George was 'choosing money over his kids'?? I do agree with the idea that others might use the letter as an 'excuse' to evict someone 'guilt-free' and I could see Robert actually losing it and appealing to the others for to be voted out (especially if he thinks he will get phonecalls in sequester So all you anti-Robert people .. if you think about it.. maybe vote for Rob to get the letter? lol. |
Pengoh | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:11 am     I would be happy if anyone won the letter. I can only imagine how hard it would be to go months without hearing from a loved one. Heck I go crazy after a few days! |
Kalekona | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 02:14 pm     Justalittlebean- My husband was in the Navy as well but I guess i got something different out of Westpac than you did. For me I know what it is like to have no contact and just what a letter can do for the person. And we didn't have e-mails either. So Robert is the bad guy here because he chose to be away? They all made the same choice so by your logic none of them should recieve a letter. you don't think $5000.00 would help his daughter ? Juiceman- thanks |
Misslibra | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 02:57 pm     I voted for Jack. |
Spunky | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 04:21 pm     If Robert gets it he may interprete as if Americans like him in the game. Yes, he gets excited about things and he may believe he's very popular outside the house. Only last week he was counting the money because Justin won HOH... On the other hand, if he doesn't get the letter he'll moan and moan unti he'll beg everyone to vote him out because he misses his daugther and he's sick of the game. He may even walk out to see his daughter soon... Who wouldn't vote him out after this?? Justin, wake up, this is great campagining without being too obvious... |
Juiceman | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 04:29 pm     I wouldnt mind seeing Jack get it either.. but his girls are grown up adults. Rob is the only one with a small child so I voted for him. I could totally see that being a reason others would vote him out but then again.. Justin is such a strong player I would still think he gets booted? I gotta say I would go away for three months if I knew I could earn 3000 a month, plus perks and possibly 50thous to half a mill! That would almost pay for 2 years university lol! |
Seamonkey | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 04:39 pm     I was on Robert's site the other day at least.. I wrote them way back and suggested a huge picture of Robert with his finger up his nose.. actually they say, send it in.. I just voted for Robert's daughter. Jack, Jun and Robert are the only ones who've had no contact from home. Jack's kids are not that young and he can handle it .. AND I think he's so popular, not good to target him . Jun's my favorite but I don't want her to lose her cool. Robert is a <M> who has done well with his addiction and does love his daughter and yes of course it would thrill her no end if they read her letter on the show. |
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