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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Editing - What makes the 'Cut' (ARCHIVES: Archive through August 02, 2003

Cinder

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 03:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Costa- I am hoping the will still show trying to dump Jee in the pool. I think Dave was sleeping so him being in the shot is not an issue. They also showed the Jee smoking montage.

Bastable

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 03:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes/Yes/Yes

As producer, it would be my job to cover the big stories in the house, and to do it in a way that is entertaining. It's not like I would be lying--the HGs are truly saying and doing these things.

...and I don't think any of it is cruel.

Tobor7

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 03:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So, Bastable... you would have put the warts story line in? (Actually I bet it was in and someone up the ladder made them take it out.)

Meggieprice

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 03:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The warts were in all the newspaper coverage I saw. Just not on the show.

Wendo

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 03:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just poppin' in to answer the questions...

Yes to all.

As a BB watcher, I want to see it all. That's the premise of the show. The HG signed up for this, they're well aware that everything they say and do may be shown on the tv show, as well as the feeds. How can they not? There are cameras everywhere.

As to the specific editing...

1. Jun eats...A LOT. All the time. She has gained weight. It's something that has happened in the house so, I want to see it.

2. Bible...yep. Nate and Ali read the bible. Sometimes applying what they read to their situation in the house. Again, it's something that has happened in the house...I want to see it.

3. Ali's opinion that Nate might be gay...yep, I want to see that too. It's Ali's opinion; her curiosity about another HG, whether it's true or not. Again, it happened in the house, I want to see it.

The HG are all adults. Some are even BB watchers. They know what they were in for when they signed on the dotted line. Everything that happens in the house has a likelyhood of appearing on the tv show and the feeds.

So, I guess what I'm saying is this. I want to see everything, good or bad, warts and all.

Bluerose

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 03:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think any of the hg's are adults except Jack.

Wendo

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 03:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Age wise Bluerose, age wise. Not maturity. LOL! :)

Maris

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 04:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hold the phone folks. Mark this moment. I agree with Wendo 100%.

Bluerose

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 04:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
All right, I've made my decision. Next year Arnie has to either get 12 really adult, thinking people in the house or 12 mental patients. I refuse to except anything less.

Weinermr

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 04:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
How about 6 of each?

Sanfranjoshfan

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 04:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My answers -
1. yes
2. yes
3. yes

The only editing that even approached "cruelty" was *maybe* the one about Jun's weight. The other two were showing Ali to be a backstabber and the bible lessons as being less than reverent and/or serious...both relevant to the game IMHO.

In any case, the editors were hired to make an entertaining show using the most entertaining aspects of the HG's behavior. I think they succeeded in doing that.

Bluerose

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 04:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Wein

Cangaroo

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 04:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The Good, The Bad and the Ugly...I agree...I wanna see it all. It's just so confusing when the Bad become the Ugly because of the way they act. Dr. Will was Bad...but I never considered him Ugly because he was not hypocritical about being the Bad. In this house, The Bad have become the Ugly because they are such hypocrites. Unfortunately, the Good have shown shades of the Bad, but I figure thy're only human and will make mistakes because they're only company and stimulus comes from the Bad and the Ugly. If there wasn't already a movie named this, I think BB could be called that..."The Good, The Bad and The Ugly".

Cangaroo

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 04:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I guess my point was...I agreed with Wendo, LOL...never actually said that in my prior post!

Gidget

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 04:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was reading the thread about the UK's reaction to BB US. One recurring theme was how their BB HGs play to the TV audience.

While I don't think that exactly will happen with BB US I wonder if the current crop of HG were the best the producers could come up with after interviewing prospective guests and discerning their familiarity with the "warts and all" (pun intendend) aspect of the show would cause them to hold back their true selves.

After this season's TV revelations, I think we can expect even less palatible guests if there is a next season.

Wendo

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 04:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL! Maris...duly noted! ;)

Cangaroo, good idea...

Big Brother 5: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly

or...

Big Brother 5: Warts and All

or...oh heII this could go on and on...

Maris

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 04:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have a question and let me preface it by saying it is in no way an invitation to bash Jun. If she keeps on gaining weight, will Big Brother buy her clothes? Will they force her to diet? If she has gained 15 pounds in five weeks and keeps at this pace then she more than likely could gain about thirty pounds in the house and she will need new clothes. I think it is a serious question. Big Brother has never had this situation arise before. Houseguests are supposed to arrive with a suitcase containing everything they will need for the duration. What are they going to do? Will they put her on a diet? Dont see how they can intervene like that. Will they go out and buy clothes for her? Is that fair to the others?

I bet they have a production meeting about this.

Sanfranjoshfan

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 04:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gidget - The difference is that in the UK, the audience still votes the HGs out of the house...like it was in BB1 here in the US. BB1 played to the auddience too....remember Jaimie and George's "hose water" infommercial and the blastoff into outer space (from within the shower stall) by Chicken George? :)

The HG no longer play to the audience because the audience no longer has any power over them...

edited to add - That's why Arnie recruits this caliber of HG...figures they will be entertaining through shock value alone!

Bluerose

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 04:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
How 'bout "the predjudice,(SP) the homophobic and the just plain nuts"? Sorry but I just came from updates and Erica is scrubbing a turtles a$$ with a toothbrush.

Wendo

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 04:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL at "I bet they have a production meeting about this."

I dunno honestly, though I admit to thinking about it. Seriously, she will go out of her clothes at the rate she's going. (Heck, as she said herself, she's out of her jeans.) I suppose if she wins HOH her family could send clothes instead of pictures and letters...*shrug*

Maris

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 04:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It just seems like it is interfering with the game. Don't they have to give the stuff back that the famly sends them? Do they keep it? It seems they will have to do something. I am betting new luxury competition will be shopping spree for the HGs. I think that will be their only way out of it or either set it up for her to be evicted.

Lurknomore

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 04:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well we can but hope that she'll be out of the house in time to buy her own clothes

Though I'm thinking she may be around for a pretty long time. Sigh. They may have to move up the in house shopping luxury they do every year :)

Gidget

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 04:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sanfran-

I do understand why the UK plays to the sudience. The point I am trying to make is average people are not likely to subject themselves to the kind of scrutiny which has gotten more and more lurid each season.

Thus, the pool of potential guests is limited to what we are seeing now.

editted to add: it is one thing to make a total a$$ out of yourself in front of ? how many cameras. It is quite another for professional editors to assemble that footage to ensure nobody misses what an a$$ you are.

Lurknomore

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 04:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OMG now Maris and I are on the same page. :) Next, like someone suggested a few days ago we'll be singing kumbaya round the campfire (someone pick up some marshmallows please I am IN for the day!).

Yoyo

Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 04:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with Wendo; yes/yes/yes. At some point, Jun lost a lot of weight. That's not easy to do yet all she ever seems to do in the house is stuff her face. It would be silly to pretend it's not happening.
The bible thing just shows their immaturity and boredom. It's the age old good vs. evil theme with both sides proclaiming that God is on their side. Like God has nothing better to do than watch BB ~ lol!
As for Nate being gay, I don't think he is "not that there's anything wrong with that". Ali just said that to Justin to play down her crawling all over Nate 24/7. That girl is such a •••• I wouldn't be shocked if she jumps Jack if he's the last remaining male in the house!