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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Ali and Jee Nominated: Archive through September 01, 2003

What555456

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 05:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So, Jun has nominated Ali and Jee. Excellent move because it keeps control of Ali.

Assuming Ali is not as arrogant and dumb as Marcellus, it can be safely assumed she will veto herself and Robert will be put up.

So, who SHOULD the young ladies? And if you think it is different, who WILL they evict?

Ashtola

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 05:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They should evict Jee. It benefits everyone left in that Jee is more likely to win a comp than Robert. It benefits Jun in that if for some reason they go crazy and Robert is the choice for F2, Jee might be able to talk the stooges into voting for Jun. Jee realizes Rob hasn't played the game. It also benefits Erika. If Jee isn't there, and by some miracle Rob wins HOH, I think he will regroup and keep Erika because to him, she is the lesser of the 3 evils. For Ali, it doesn't matter. I don't think she can win at this point. Even against Rob.

Cajunrambler

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 05:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Scary though: Erika and Rob in the F2.

Bye bye Jee

Csnog

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 06:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
On the other hand Jun doesn't want to be up against Erika in the final 2 either. Jun could put Erika up.

Jee needs to go and Jun will make a deal with whoever wins HOH.

Pinklola

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 07:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Did Jun know Ali had the POV before she nommed J&A? Please anyone who knows...ty in advance!

Bonzacat

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 07:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Pinkola, yes, Jun already knew.

Seamonkey

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 07:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She knew.

Cliotheleo

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 07:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, she just offically nominated them today, she's known who had the POV since Friday. She said they told her while she was gone on her trip.

Woofy

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 07:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, Jun knew in advance!

Jbean

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 07:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
think that's why she did it, so ali wouldn't be pressured to use it on one of the guys, or use it for them at her own will (since she is pretty unpredictable). good move on jun's part.

Pinklola

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 07:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow, thanks everyone! I was wondering if she did it on purpose...it would've been kind of cool if she didn't know who won though...o well!

Wilsonatmd

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 07:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee is probably going to go, because I think everyone believes that they can't beat him in a Jury vote, and this might be the only chance to get rid of him (he can compete for HOH this week if he stays, and has won twice already. He wins that, he's in the final three, were anything could happen). If thru some miracle Robert stays, then wins HOH next week, I think he might put up Jun and Ali....because if he puts up Erika and someone, I think Ali and Jun would vote each other out, and leave Erika in. If he can make it to the final two, he has at least two votes (from the other 2 stooges), and if Erika is in the jury, that's two votes already against him (Jack and Erika). With Erika against him in the vote, that's 2 for him and one against him....it's easier to get 2 out of five than 2 out of four. As of now, I think Robert can't beat Jun in a vote, and might beat Ali and Erika in a vote....it's all about endgame strategies now.

The women know that if a stooge is in the final 2, they need to win four votes out of five (since the two other stooges would vote for him), which is really bad odds. If two of the women make it to the final two, it's then can they get the stooges to vote as a block? If one of them can, they then need only one vote out of four to win the money, and that's real good odds....But I don't see a case right now where the vote is more than 4-3 in any case if two of the 3 women make it to the final 2. If Robert makes it, he has better odds (because of the two stooges voting), again as of right now.

Laluna

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 08:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Smart move on Jun's part to put Ali up. Ali could have easily messed things up and made a deal with Jebert. I just hope Jun doesn't change things around and put Erika up instead of Robert. I think she is smarter than that and realizes she has to get Jee out if she is to have a chance at winning. Until the veto is over & Robert is put up, I am going to be a bit nervous for Erika.

Kitt

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 10:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
When will the veto be announced, do we know?

Meggieprice

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 10:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Laluna- Ali and Jun have decided to get rid of Erika next week instead of Robert. Jee will go this week.

Wanderer

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 05:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Still hoping Jun doesn't put Erika up. Seems we got FOTH last night when Jun and Jee were in HOH talking. Hmmmmm She puts up Erica. Jee stays and works with Jun to get out Ali. Rob could get HOH by some streak of luck. F3. Jun, Jee, Rob. Rob out and the Jun, Jee alliance is intact.

Propita

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 10:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun MUST get Jee out this week. If it's Jun?Jee in the finals, Jee will have the votes of Robert, Justin, and Dana (she's way to tight with Justin to break and she considers herself a martyr for her team). That's 3 out of 4 needed votes. All Jee needs is to have Nate, Jack, Eirka, or Ali to be pissed enough at her to vote for Jee.

The 'losers' have all been together talking away. Does Jun really think she can keep all four of those votes? And she'd need ALL 4.

But...if she goes up against Ali, the 4 votes of the dream team (I'm including Dana's) are up for grabs--Dana can't stand Ali and neither can Nate. Jack prefers Jun to Ali. Right there JUN now has a good chance at 3 votes.

What they need to do is get Jee of this week. That leaves Erika, ALi, and Robert for next HOH. Robert hasn't won sh*t, so likely winner is Erika or Ali. Time to oust Robert, cause if he goes to finals, he'll get the 3 dream team votes (just like Jee), so same situation. That'll leave the three women to fight it out.

But all this leaves questions: What about these extra two weeks? And did the hamsters know this might happen? I'd figure it could screw up personal schedules, at least for Jack and Robert who have families.

Meggieprice

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 10:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm confused- is it two extra weeks or two extra episodes?

R151996

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 10:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Propita, only one extra week (two episodes--Friday and Wednesday) has been added to the schedule. And for those who applied (or read the application materials) they are told in advance to be available from late June to early October, so the hamsters will still be released before the absolute latest date possible.

Robert just can't wait for it to be over, which is why he thinks it's at most two weeks (but likely less) from this Wednesday. That was correct before the extra week was added. He has repeatedly said it will be a couple of days with the F3 and a couple of more days for the F2--it should now be a full week at both stages.

Mrose4243

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 10:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I heard that it is 2 extra episodes.

R151996

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 10:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
We weren't allowed to know what Jee and Jun were starting to talk about in HOH at bedtime last night. The producers conveniently went to a quick FOTH at that point until their convo had ended. I don't believe anything is up...but you never know.

Laluna

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 11:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am crossing my fingers that Jun sticks with putting Rob up when Ali uses the veto. Then I hope Erika will win the next HOH.

Lauram

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 12:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What about:

Jee out this round.
Robert wim HOH (Yes Robt -- just wait)
Rob puts up Ali and Jun
Erika is only one to vote, votes out Jun.

Erika then wins HOH and takes either Rob or Ali and Erika wins!

R151996

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 01:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Veto ceremony will be during the live eviction show, so this week's eviction voting will also be live.

Hellokitty

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 01:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Am I the only one who hopes Ali doesn't use the veto...

*remembers Marcellas last year*