I'm starting to like Robert......do I need psychiatric help??
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I'm starting to like Robert......do I need psychiatric help??
Kalekona | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 12:54 pm     Beruthiel - i too have allergies and have had my whole life and when my nose itches i rub it, as dose just about everone i know that suffers from allergies. There is a difference between picking your nose and rubbing it. I hate intolerance of all type and find that those people who are trashing Robert are no better than he is. I give different points of view as examples of what might be true, since we don't know him. I know there is no changing peoples minds i just find it more juvenile to go on and on about his nose than anything he's said, that i've actually heard. I also think he's the guy you want sitting next to you in front of the jury, not jun. There are things about ALL the house guests that are objectionable. Roberts view on women? A smart woman will spot that a mile a way and steer clear. Which could be why he thinks about women the way he does, because he only attracks that type of woman. |
Kalekona | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 01:01 pm     Costacat i do not think I am disallowing anyone their opinion just presenting another side, and I've said as much. You continue to ask how I know what he says is "bravado" well how do you know it is not? That is the point i was making. As for walls i said he could be putting up, that's in life not in the house. Those walls go up and the rest becomes habbit. I will say this men like Robert exist because of Women like Ali. It's clear you don't like Robert. I don't like Jack or Erika (but i am starting to think a final with Robert and Erika might be interesting) but i don't have to constantly degrade them. |
Misslibra | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 01:09 pm     Kale said >No I like him, he's a loyal friend and i believe with the right woman and feeling 100% secure in the relationship he could be a loyal partner too. Welcome loyal friend of Robert's. I know it's hard to hear criticism of a loyal friend, but Robert has been showing his true colors on live feeds and it very hard not to discuss it, it's quite disgusting behavior to most of us. And I'm not even talking about his nose problem. We come to this board to discuss the show, the good the bad and the ugly. I'm sorry if some of the things said about Robert offends you. If this is the case then I don't know how the comments Robert has made on live feeds have not offend you even more. But I can't blame you for trying to defend a loyal friend as you said he is. You have a right to express your opinion as anyone else, even if we don't agree. And I might add I do think your quite brave. You are indeed a loyal friend till the end.  |
Misslibra | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 01:18 pm     I see he's a loyal friend has been taking out of your post... hmmmmmm |
Kalekona | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 01:19 pm     I never said he was MY loyal friend. But he has been loyal to the guys. I haven't heard anything near the nasty comments from Robert that I've heard about him/ I simply think there is a line between the show and talking about the HG and simply trashing someone for sport, who can not defend themselves. The same people did the same thing to Dana. |
Puzzled | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 01:25 pm     I will say this men like Robert exist because of Women like Ali. Well, you've been defending Robert, so I guess that means that he's such a nice guy because he's been around women like Ali? After all, trashing Ali would be as bad as trashing Robert, wouldn't it? |
Misslibra | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 01:25 pm     Your original post.... Kalekona Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 11:03 am -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I watch the live feeds and i too have only heard limited comments by Robert about women, and none much different than things said by ALL the other guys in the house. As for his cimments last night, it is clear he is putting up walls a defence. Many things people condem Robert for that I've actually heard him say have been taken as fact when much is nothing more than bravado talk. Jee3 gets slammed for acting like "jerks" in hoh but if you really watched the other night they were joking, and having fun with it (unlike Dana) even Jack understood that and played along. There is nothing wrong with liking Robert he isn't the devil some would like to make him out to be and the nose picking talk is about worn out. Yes he has his hand around his nose often, but i have never seen him digging like people say. Between allergies and a very large nose of which he could be self conscious i think it's understandable why he has his hand around his nose a lot. Doesn't mean he's picking it everytime. many people on these boards sound like elementery school kids with the whole "robert is picking his nose" obsession. Does he need sensitivity training? Yes. But do i think he's a serial killer or abuser? No I like him, he's a loyal friend and i believe with the right woman and feeling 100% secure in the relationship he could be a loyal partner too. (but it would have to be the right woman not just anyone) He might also be one of those guys who feels he doesn't deserve to be happy so he self implodes with all his relationships. When you said he's a loyal friend it sounded like you were saying he's a loyal friend of your's to me. And then it was removed from your post. But ok I believe you if you say he isn't. I guess I interpeted what you said wrong. |
Gemma120in2002 | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 01:38 pm     I think that Robert has a charisma you must experience personally, because it certainly doesn't translate to the small screen. He is fun-loving, and like him or not (I fall into the NOT category) the man can dance. A man who can dance is very attractive to women who love to dance and are surrounded by plodding guys with two left feet. If I were in a situation where I had the choice of basking in the glory of Nate and his self-acknowledged good looks, or dancing with Robert (of course not knowing about his nose habits) I'd dance with Robert. I'd probably not like him very much once he opened his mouth, but I'd still dance with him. Pass the Hand Sanitizer please! |
Kalekona | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 01:39 pm     I understand that's how it sounded which is why when you said something I corrected it. Puzzled- talking about the HG and trashing them non stop are two different things. I'm the first to say i don't like this or that, but about Ali or Nate etc. but to harp on it is a whole different thing. I've never said Robert is an angel and infact have repeatedly said He wouldn't have ever been someone I'd date. Roberts attitudes about women come from women like Ali that use sex as a weapon, or way to get what they want. It is clear robert has been hurt by someone in his past and with each incident he's opinions get worse. But I have also seen him take responsibility for what went wrong in his relationship with Erika. What was his fault he has owned. (erika continues to think it was all robert, which is never the case. It takes two to have a relationship and it takes two to end one.) |
Misslibra | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 01:42 pm     We are not trashing we are discussing the disgusting behavior we witness on live feeds. We are allowed to do that.
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Puzzled | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 02:09 pm     Roberts attitudes about women come from women like Ali that use sex as a weapon, or way to get what they want. We are each responsible for our own behaviour. |
Csnog | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 02:58 pm     Sorry but had to run errands. Kalekona, While you find it easy to defend Robert and still seem to have a dislike of Erika. Why? Erika is not perfect but she has trashed him much less than he has her. No one person can get a person fired or there would be a lawsuit. I notice that Roberts job description is now a (former) job and Erika had nothing to do with that job. |
Wendo | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 03:31 pm     Kalekona said, "talking about the HG and trashing them non stop are two different things. I'm the first to say i don't like this or that, but about Ali or Nate etc. but to harp on it is a whole different thing." But Kale, what you see as "harping" is discussion for what we posters see on the feeds. Nor are we discussing the same situation over and over. Last night in the Late Night Chatters thread, we were talking about what Robert was saying on the feeds right then. (He provides quite a bit to talk about.) |
Costacat | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 03:54 pm     "Harping" would be discussing the same thing (i.e. the same incident) over and over and over. Unfortunately, Robert keeps opening his mouth and saying things that offend quite a few of us. And each time he does, we comment on that. That is not harping; that is discussing what he has said. BTW, Jee and Justin are both fairly young (in their early 20's). Robert is 33. If I didn't know better, from watching his actions, I'd swear he was 15 years younger. Not that age is necessarily an indication of maturity. (Before Ryan shows up and whomps me upside my tail! <grin>) |
Smokey | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 03:59 pm     It's commonly acknowledged in AA and other recovery groups that a persons emotional growth is stunted when one drinks and/or uses and it's thought to be around the same age as when the person started drinking and using. So--if Robert started drinking and using at age 15, that would be where he is emotionally in his maturity. |
Misslibra | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 05:23 pm     Great point Smokey. |
Justareader | Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 08:56 pm     Gemma - I have often thought that same thing about his charisma. He is shrewd - he only says the worst things when no other people that may tolerate that kind of talk - he never shows this ugliness around the girls - he is nice and friendly, etc. I think robert is loyal to himself first and his friends second and i don't belive he could be 'true' friends with women as he doesn't have the least respect for women in general but he is savvy engough to know (apparently) how to get women for the short term... |
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