Archive through August 07, 2003
TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1:
The least Allison could do is .... save Nathan:
Archive through August 07, 2003
Cameltoes | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:21 pm     He promised Ali not to put her up this week but he already told Jee and Robert that if Erika used the POV that he would have no choice but to put her up. This is why they approached Erika about not using the POV. |
Gvandeli | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:23 pm     Let's imagine that scenario...Erika uses POV, and it's Ali vs. Nate. Who goes and what's the vote? |
Zachsmom | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:24 pm     Ali gone by a vote 3-2! |
Gvandeli | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:25 pm     Zachsmom- Who votes how? |
C1mag | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:27 pm     I think it would still be Nate. Jun would point out that they have a deal with Ali so keep her close but get rid of Nate cause Justin is too vulnerable the following week not to get hoh. She would keep playing on Justins paranoia that if Nate got the next hoh he would go after him. If Ali gets next HOH she won't nominate Justin and if Jun can get her to promise she won't nominate her either then Ali will be saved by Jun and the 2 stooges voting. |
C1mag | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:28 pm     bottom line is that Jun would be the swing vote. |
Seanflynn2003 | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:33 pm     Bottom line is that is one of the things that makes Jun such a terrific player She knows how to have power and hold on to it |
Meggieprice | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:33 pm     I am wishing for exactly that scenario as hard as I can. I think Jun knows Ali should go. |
C1mag | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:37 pm     Jun and power: Make sure everyone is upset with one another. Run from side to side planting seeds of dislike amongst the house. Try to get her point accross. All the while the entire house sees it and realizes when the time is just right Jun is going down but use her until then. Uh yeah thats real control. She still has no idea how she is gonna get to that money. Jee isn't gonna be her golden goose she is gonna need two strong players to infiltrate those guys to get Jee completely on her side. No one in the house wants to be in the finals with Jun. If she is a smart cookie she will keep Nate because he would target Justin and take down the boys game. The final comp in final 3 is always endurance. She will not win it against any of the guys and who in that house wants to sit next to funny ol jun in the finals? |
Seanflynn2003 | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:41 pm     And be the main cook, doing her dirty work far more pleasantly than most do, having a sense of humor, outsmarting the others Don't know why she is put down for playing the game, and playing it well Obviously she is as vulnerable as anyone, but she has as good a chance to win as anyone too |
C1mag | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:47 pm     I think her chances to go far are great until prime targets are taken out and then she's toast. Not one person will want to sit next to her and she doesn't have the strength physically to beat any of them in the final 3 physical challenge to control her final destiny. They all know what she's doing. Dana ruined that little game of hers. I don't see anyone putting her down for playing the game. In fact there has been high praise for the attempt but it's so out there now that it's just entertainment and she's just a ticking bomb that will explode in about 2 maybe 3 weeks. It could all actually end for her next week. I think her game of desperately trying to keep a division in the house is played out as well. It's not working. She needs a division of hatred to keep that much wanted drama of hers going. I consider this a useless and very stressful factor. I'm not a fan of her as a person but think her initial game plan would have worked had Dana not so blatantly outted her game. |
Kalekona | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:48 pm     <> Need I remind everyone we just may not know everything we think we do.. cw |
C1mag | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:54 pm     Gee and what did jun just say out loud, "too bad we all don't hate each other it makes it easier" so my theory that she creates a division of hatred seems to be what she needs for this game. C1 is a very happy camper <> cw |
C1mag | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:56 pm     hahahah I knew that was gonna happen |
Jpgramma | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 08:00 pm     I liked the fact that Nate apologized to Jack and Erika for using the veto to save Ally. Look at the wudda/shudda/cuddas: If Nate hadn't vetoed Ally off 1. Ally (whose folks seem to give her anything she wants and doesn't appear to even need the money) would be gone and would not have been on the jury, saving us all from having to witness her self-centered drama-queen ways. 2. Dave (who could have REALLY used the sequester money) would still be here , guarenteed the sequester money and entertaining us all. 3. Jack or Dave would have won last weeks HOH. Jack was just a hair behind Ally in that one, so if Ally hadn't been there, Jack would have won (unless Dave did even better, but we'll never know). 4. Instead of Ally in HOH last week, Jack (or Dave) would have nominated Justin and Robert. 5. Hard to know how Dave may have done in the POV contest, but if he had won veto, he would have left Jack's (of his own) noms as they were made. So, we'll assume that Robt won it (as he did) and took himself off the block. No big deal. Justin was the target anyway. Jee or Dana replaces Robt and Justin still goes. Nate, Dave & Erica's votes vs Jee, June and Dana's. HOH has tie breaker , Justin is gone. 6. That would have brought us to last night's HOH. Justin wouldn't have been around to win it and Jack couldn't have played (as out going HOH). With Dave and Dana playing instead of Justin and Jack, who can say who would now be HOH? phew.. Maybe (perish the thought) Dana would be HOH again and we'd be right where we are now, but maybe NOT. And DAVE would still be in the game!! > oh well, like I said, wudda, shudda, cudda. Does Ally owe Nate? She owes Nate, Erika, Jack and Dave, but I doubt she'll worry about paying off her debts. ...walking off grumbling now. thanks for the chance to vent. |
Seanflynn2003 | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 08:02 pm     C1 Mag Jun's statement shows her humanity and decency. She has developed ties and connections with her fellow HGs and realizes that from here on out it is going to be harder to cross her allies. It is the comment of a normal decent human being, not an ogre. |
Smokey | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 08:05 pm     Just had a thought...does anyone remember what week it was that they brought an evicted houseguest back into the house? I am guessing that it's got to be pretty soon that we see something happen that's unexpected. At least I am hoping. |
Ministryoftruth | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 08:06 pm     So what you're saying jpgramma is that Dana was right and it IS all Nate's fault! LOL |
C1mag | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 08:06 pm     Gramma it's an interesting theory. I don't know how much Dana knew about the others who had been evicted. Instead of knowledge of Dana they would have to have known knowledge of Justin and Jack. I don't know if she knew anything about Michelle or not. It would have been a close call. |
C1mag | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 08:11 pm     Sorry Sean. I'll take Jees words that he just said about Jun. On cam 4 Jee speaking to Ali..Jee about Jun... "She's spiteful, She's hateful, and she will stab me in the back" He knows her the best. |
Funnyfarm | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 08:11 pm     Can you imagine being Ali's friend, or brother? It reminds me of watching little kids having a play day .... tattle, whine, pout, lie, play poor me, sidle up to Mommy, Daddy or Grandma because someone is picking on her ......... on and on and on. Sad part of it is, I don't think this is just game playing, but every day behavior. |
Cameltoes | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 08:13 pm     They announced the twist after the 4th eviction and after Chiara had made her nominations. Right around this very time last season. Amy came back on the next live show. |
Tmleafs4life | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 08:14 pm     The scenario I would like to see? Ali wins POV and decides not to save Nate. Nate sees how Ali used him. Everyone sees how "evil" and disloyal Ali is and she's the next to go. |
Seanflynn2003 | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 08:15 pm     So if Jun tries to say bad things about people, she's trouble and a liar If Jee does the same thing, he's a saint? Maybe Jee is competing too and trying to divide the house. |
Jpgramma | Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 08:16 pm     C1mag.. right..I hadn't thought of that. Michelle and Justin would have been on the cube. And surely David would have had the edge on any Michelle questions. sigh.. wudda... shudda... cudda |
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