Robert is the new HOH......
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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Robert is the new HOH......
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Pirate

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 08:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope he puts up Alison and Jun. He may actually think he can win against Erika because his "dream team" will be going to bat for him in the other house. Plus he may think it will make him look the better person for not trying to evict his ex and that he was sincere in his wanting to be friends again with Erika on the outside.

But on the other hand, I don't know if Robert is actually cut out to be the better person.

Nana

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 08:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If it was the same night - no matter what hour of the day - it would still be over Erika's 1440 hour guess.

Can't figure where they got the 1434 hours?

Steveh

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 08:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I NEVER said that Ali has gotten to where she is purely on luck. She's gotten to where she is mainly, IMO, by being herself. She has a strong instinct for self-preservation, she doesn't really care a lick for anyone else in the house, she is fearless and shameless. She'll do anything. She'll say anything. I don't think she's adapted a strategy or strategies to behave this way while in the house.

IMO, her typical behavior often dovetails nicely w/ particulary ruthless game strategy. Their operations and effects are virtually the same, but that doesn't make Ali a great game player or intelligent.

Cliotheleo

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 08:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Until you got to the last sentence Steveh I TOTALLY agreed with you!

Cinapoo

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 08:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The exes didn't come til the 3rd day. You are right BigBrotherFan.

Mlt

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 08:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually, I did the math and there is one way I can see the 1434 is correct.

If this is day 61, then that means that they have spent 59 full, twenty-four hour days together. That's 1416 hours. If the exes came in at 11 p.m. on the first day, that's one more hour. For a total of 1417 hours. This show took place starting at 5 p.m. Pacific Time. That means that on day 61 they had spent 17 hours together. That totals 1434 hours.

(I think I got the math right there. But I do stand to be corrected)

Cameltoes

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 08:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Pirate: Yes, I am also rethinking Robert's "keep Erika" strategy. Jee might have told him what Jun said about voting for him over the other girls. Plus, he might thinking going after Ali will make him look better in the eyes of certain jury members. Against Erika, he has Dana, Justin and Jee and just needs one more vote which could easily come from Jun. The bottom line is that IF Jun was being honest, he is golden unless he's up against Jun. So, even though he doesn't want Jun out, it could be in his best interests to have her on the jury.

Tabbyking

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 09:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
okay, i didn't watch this but my daughter was falling down laughing and told me about when robert was name-dropping about people in his restaurant and said 'barry drewmore'. what a putz....
wonder who he'll put up?

Pirate

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 09:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cameltoes I agree that getting Ali out in his thinking might make him look good to the jury. Especially Dana! But, should he decide to not put up Ali, keeping the "most disliked" in the house just so you'll look better can come back and bite you in the butt!

Trinity63

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 09:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I bet the girls are shaking in their boots now. So who's he going to nominate? Jun and Ali?

Ric_Munoz

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 09:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ultimately, Alison and Erika have only themselves to blame for losing to a creature who doesn't deserve a shred of the respect that they do, specifically as BB game players.

Realbiz

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 09:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Great, Rob won hoh, it's gonna be an interesting week. who will leave next? my bet is on erika...

Rainwoman

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 09:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am really glad that Robert won HOH, even if I don't care for him. It's refreshing to see, and he's the only one left that hasn't had a chance to be HOH yet. <<channeling Robert........ GET ALISON OUT OF THAT HOUSE WITH NO CHANCE TO WIN ANY MONEY! hehehe ... I feel better.

Rainwoman

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 10:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
<Modsd - please don't attack other posters. Thanks!>

Jdel

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 10:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Has anyone noticed that rob hasn't stopped talking or smiling all night? What a difference an HOH makes :) - sulking and pissed off seems to have evaporated.

I just hope that he's gonna follow what he said about not letting ali anywhere near the money or giving it to jun. Would be nice to see him follow through with something for once.

we'll have to keep an eye on him and his chat with erika - this could be the best for her if he gets jun out - though if he puts up jun and ali erika will be casting the vote so jun could get pissed at her - but not enough to vote for robert?

Cliotheleo

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 10:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yep, I went back and watched the first episode. If the ex's didn't come into until the 3rd day then the originals wore the same clothes for three days straight. :)

But I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that everyone entered the house on the same night.

Creampuff

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 10:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tabbyking . . . I caught the Barry Drewmore reference by Robert too! It darn near went over my head though. When he said it a few seconds went by and then I thought *wait a minute*! Did he say what I think he said?? It was a pretty funny error!!

Iscreamer1

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 10:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe in his attempt to mend fences Rob will decide to keep Ericka. They keep saying they hate each other but it doesn't look that way to me and I think he might feel he can beat her but just by taking her to the end he will also help to quell any demons from the past.

Vskatefan

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 10:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No matter what Robert feels for Erika personally, I can see him trusting her more than Ali or Jun(especially Ali).

Meggieprice

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 10:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It doesn;t much matter what Robert wants- veto can mix it all up again...all we know is he is safe. Everything else is still up for grabs.

Jdel

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 10:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
but this does shake it up and it make it interesting - doubt jun or ali is feeling as confident right now as they were - they were talking pretty sure about dumping erika and now either of them could go so easily.

In all fairness erika has always tried to be civil and decent to Rob while both ali and jun have pissed him off over and over again.

Now that jee is gone and can't bully him anymore rob is free to play his own game without having to get bogged down in the loyalty thing and what's best for the alliance - he's there for himself now and anything can happen.

And, in his twisted mind rob might just think it would be so much better revenge to take erika along and then beat her and get the money she wants - just a thought about how a deranged woman-hater might think :)

Monkeyboy

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 10:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
*pukes*

Julieboo

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Really, Robert doesn't have the power, just immunity. Whoever wins veto is the powerful one. Right? Cuz they also get to choose which of the 2 has to go. (This is right, isn't it?)

Sheilaree

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Does Robert mean Drew Barrymore, or is there Barry Drewmore? I think he will put up Alison and Erika because he has been wanting Erika out since day one.

Wilsonatmd

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
not really...the one of the three women who aren't put up is who gets to make the decision. If there's a veto, it would automatically make that person the decision holder if one of them wins it, since that person would veto herself off if nommed, or not change noms if not. If Robert wins veto, I don't know what he might do, espcially if veto is done live again.

Robert's worry is that he can't be sure he can trust the person who would make the vote to vote his way. Erika, out of the three, might be the one of them that would most likely follow his wishes. That might be her only shot at staying, unless Jun or Alison think they should turn on the other now, rather than wait. Once we know noms, it'll be easier to figure out things, tho veto here could mess it all up.

Stingerman

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The only good thing about HOH this week is that person is not going out the front door. So Robert is safe. As for the other 3 well depending on who wins HOH then any one of them could go. If Robert wins POV, then at least 1 of the 2 he puts up will go.

Lulu

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 01:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Steveh, but I bet it will make her a successful lawyer.:)

Kellirippa

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 01:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Has Alison told Robert that she wants to go up against him in the finals?

Cousin_Jake

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Alison has told each one of them that she wants to be in the finals with them.