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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Robert just told Jee to make sure sequestered hg NOT give ANY votes to Alison: Archive through September 03, 2003

Kalihiwahine

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 01:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This early a.m. Robert told Jee to make sure when he gets out tomorrow to tell the evicted houseguests NOT to give ANY votes to Alison.

I think each houseguest has been playing the way they feel they can win...

I don't think it's fair that Jee or any hg should go out there and influence the hg votes... I realize they will talk anyway, but to actively go out and spread the word who to not give any votes to ...

I'm not saying that I agree with the way Alison has been playing...

just saying it's not fair... oh well

Rainwoman

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 05:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think Robert has anything to worry about with Alison getting any votes if she's in the finals. She dug her own grave.

Jan

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 05:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought the sequestered house was to stop this kind of action. Isn't that what Roddy did last year..make sure Dani got no votes? Seems to me a sequestered house makes it even easier for an evicted HG to do this.

Since I don't want Ali to win, I don't care much about it this year but I sure cared last year...so I guess I have to agree that it is unfair but human nature.

Vskatefan

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 05:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The fact of the matter is that the Stooges can control the votes. If all three Stooges are on the jury, they will probably vote the same way. Add Dana to the Stooge vote and they pretty much decides who wins this game. They actually have a lot of power here even if all three Stooges are not on the jury.

Seamonkey

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 06:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If Alison and Arnold wanted to change things up they would have sequestered separately not together..

Funny, the instant Robert heard about the sequester "house" and realized that they were together, he started worrying and said not fair but now is working to twist it his way.

Appletalk

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 06:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
In my opinion - the houseguests can lie and manipulate any way they want to win in the BB house. They should be able to do the same in the sequester house. Everyone ultimately has the freedom to vote as they wish. Thus Robert should be able to say whatever he wants.

Friktion

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 06:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Robert once again overestimates himself and his influence over people ... I also agree Alison won't get many votes in the end, but also that will be due to her own personality and the way she's been playing. Robert does not have any say in how the sequestered votes are going to go ... anymore than he had a say in evicting his ex- twice, remember? Hah!

Bigd

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 06:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What is SO terrible about how Allison is playing? They are all playing a game. I don't especially like Allison, nor did I like Dana, but it IS a game they are playing. I don't like Robert at ALL, but he is playing a game too. But what in particular is so bad about Allison's game???? (aside from the poor person crying jag)

Maris

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 06:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it is totally fair, it is all a game and the game continues in the sequestered house. I believe that the reason for the sequestration was to prevent the Houseguests from watching any shows or diary rooms. What other houseguests may say or may not say we do not know. We dont know if they are given rules when they go to sequestration not to discuss what has happened in the house since they left. If there arent any rules about talking about the house then it is part of the game.

I dont think anyone will need convincing not to vote for Alison. Alison is playing a great game, she has survived being nominated is distrusted by all but is still in the house. If she wins, then she deserved it.

Rainwoman

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 06:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What is so terrible about how Alison played the game? woooooooo! ya got an hour? The most disgusting thing Alison did in that house, was EVERYTHING disrespectable she did to her boyfriend Donny. I hope he has the good sense to get rid of that thing! <ModSD>

Maris

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 06:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Rain, I wouldnt worry so much about Donny. Isnt he the same boyfriend she had a restraining order against because of abuse. Sounds to me like they are a match made in heaven, very masochistic relationship on both sides.

Crazydog

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 06:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
There is absolutely no evidence that Roddy "conspired" to turn the houseguests against Danielle. Danielle didn't need Roddy to ensure that no one was going to vote for her. The reason why she lost the vote so badly was 100% due to her own actions and words. I feel that the people who are saying that Roddy made Danielle lose are fans of Danielle who are bitter that she lost so badly.

Maris

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 07:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Crazy, it was Danielles arrogance and nasty comments about the other HGs in the diary rooms that cost her the game. There was no evidence that it was Roddys doing at all. That was just perpetuated by the Dani and hes the devil act.

Maryk

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 07:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Crazydog, I remember last year the evicted HGs had internet chats and all of them have turned against Danielle way before they met each other again.
As for Jee campaigning against Ali, I don't think it will take much convincing... Dana and Nathan are already doing that in there.

Ladytex

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 07:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh wahhhh, let's turn this into another anti-Dani thread one year later ...

Cliotheleo

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 07:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Rain, I'll agree that Ali MAY not being fair to her boyfriend with the way she's been so ............. um, friendly, with Nate and Dave but I'm confused as to how that equates to her playing a poor game.

Kaili

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 08:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
She's obviously playing a great game- look at how she's positioned herself! I don't like her and I don't want her in the final 2- but she got herself there. I don't like how she played, I don't like her methods AT ALL- but she has gotten herself to the end. Her problem in the end will be not playing the game for the jury- she played well in-house, but she stepped on too many toes along the way. She'll get to the end, but she won't win the grand prize.

Chances are, if Donny is anything like her, he will forgive her when she comes home with $50,000 (minus taxes) in her pocket.

Fruitbat

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 08:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
They have no idea that those eliminated are watching some of the show. That will be sobering for Ali.

Cliotheleo

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 08:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought they knew the Jury gets to watch the competitions?

Sweetpea1994

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 08:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Danielle did herself in with her honesty in the Diary room. That is why the HG's are sequestered now and only allowed to watch what they are spoon fed by the producers. The biggest mistake you can make in this game is alienating people who you may need a vote from later on. Danielle learned that the hard way and so may Ali. As far as Robert telling Jee to make sure no one votes for Ali, so what. The people in the Sequester house probably already have their minds made up on who they will and won't vote for.

Pantageas

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 08:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Just like Dani didn't take into consideration how the HGs might view her DR confessions last year, Alison is not taking into consideration how these sequested HGs are going to take her actions into consideration this year. It's part of the game, and if it costs her $500Gs with the Jury - it was the game she chose to play. Dani chose her game style and actions last year, and however well she may have played and "survived", the Jury snubbed her. Alison looks to be in the same boat to me...

Jdel

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 08:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
They do know that the evicted house guests see the telivised shows. I don't think ali cares if she wins 1st or 2nd as long as she wins. She's been mostly about being in the spotlight and getting noticed - wants to be an actress remember.

I agree that Robert in no way will have influence over the others - he's a follower not a leader.

And yes, ali already dug herself into that hole a long time ago - isn't that what seems to make her so attractive to the others to go against in the end? So she's got a good chance to get to the finals and get some of the big bucks - what she came to do all along.

Hopefully Jun and Erika will smarten up, dump the bums and go to the end together.

Cliotheleo

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 08:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well no, I think Jun IS smart enough to NOT take Erika w/her to the finals. Right now I think the only person who could beat Erika would be Jee.

And we all know he won't.

Jdel

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 08:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm pretty sure you're right about Jun not taking Erika with her. just a shame as those are the two that I think deserve the cash the most. I wouldn't care which one got it and I'd rather see one of them get the second place money as opposed to Robert or Allison.

Crazydog

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 08:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think there is a chance Jun could beat Erika in the finals. She never did anything against Dana, and she was allied with Dana until Dana was evicted. I think when it comes down to it, despite the "nobody wants you here" comment, that Dana would end up choosing her ally Jun over her opponent Erika. With Dana you could get Justin. And I think Jee would rather see Jun win than Erika.

Votes for Jun: Dana, Justin, Jee
Votes for Erika: Jack

Alison, Nate, and Robert would be swing votes and I could definitely envision at least one of them voting for Jun.