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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: America's Choice: Archive through August 19, 2003

Mystery

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 10:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that Robert's comments about women in general ARE disrespectful to the women in the house.

Xarph

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 10:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Juiceman says: "I cant believe no one is chiding and booing Xarph for vote rigging?"

Xarph says: Man, you have to realize that us 350 lb, pimply faced, immature Internet nerds need to even the playing field against the vast right consipiracy lead by Arnie to cover up the true Robert.

Zachsmom

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 10:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Xarph- SHAME ON YOU!!!

can i have the code?

Cangaroo

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 10:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Zachsmom...I see that, LOL.

Zachsmom

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 10:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
myimage

Cliotheleo

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 10:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That's right, before you know it Xarph will be in there trying to rig the votes to get the HGs a treadmill instead of a trampolene! Have you no decency sir! :)

Cangaroo

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 10:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Was Xarph in Florida during the elections?

Whit4you

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 10:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well if I were voting - I'd be voting for Robert too - because I'd be voting for his Daughter to hear from her Daddy. Regardless of how I feel about him, I've nothing against his daughter, and from what I know he's the only one with a little one missing him.

As far as vote rigging goes, CBS will allow you to vote till you are blue in the face but they don't count a 2nd vote unless you clear your cookies - which can be automated but few would be likely to do that and ironically there'd be just as likely to be an automated voter for one HG as another. The only time vote rigging in a case like this would really matter would be where the vote riggers were much more likely to all be picking the same person and the only time that'd probably happen is if they votee were say a fellow 'hacker' type. Or someone programmers/hackers etc would really want to vote on. "Cheating" on votes like this is only a factor when the majority of 'cheaters' pick the same person which is rarely likely too happen.

Anyhow a vote for Robert is a vote for his little gal to hear from her daddy... she doesn't deserve any hate just cause her daddy ain't a saint. He quit drinking and is sticking to it in that house, for his daughter - that is a real biggy - and shows to me he does really care about her. Few alcholics could make it through this environment without slipping.

Cliotheleo

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 10:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whit, I agree. If I'm thinking right, Robert is the only one in the house with a minor child and he should have won for that reason alone.

Beruthiel

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 11:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, Pshaw! As the Victorians said.

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As for Robert, he has two redeeming qualities. He loves his daughter, and he has given up alcohol. BIG DEAL!

I'm not going to say what I would dearly like to say about Robert's portrayal on TV versus his character as shown daily on the live feeds, for the sake of his innocent child, but the vote for Robert had nothing to do with his daughter and everything to do with the blatant hypocrisy and bias of the producers of Big Brother, and that's why the show has become the dregs of TV mindporn.
I didn't bother to vote for any of them, not even those who have become my favourites. I no longer wish to contribute to the fakery. Even as escapism, they've gone beyond the pale.

I've reached the same stage of disillusionment as Rhett Butler at the end of Gone With The Wind:
Frankly, my dears, I don't give a d*mn!

Xarph

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 11:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
pssst, Whit!

I cleared the ".2o7.net" cookies each time

Kmjm

Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 11:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Beruthiel, can I buy you a bellini? Enough said...

I actually didn't vote for AC myself, and I don't really care who won. If it made Robert's daughter happy, that's fine.

But I hope you give enough of a d@mn Beruthiel, to keep hanging out around here!

Beruthiel

Monday, August 18, 2003 - 02:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
No probs, Kmjm!
I hate to admit it, but 'I'll be back', LOL! Don't care much who wins, but heck, BB still fills in the dog days of summer TV!

Mystery

Monday, August 18, 2003 - 09:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't believe that Robert "should have won for that reason alone" just because he has a small child. How far would you stretch that; would you let him win the whole thing for that same reason?

Spwisc

Monday, August 18, 2003 - 09:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
He won, so now we have to move on. I wonder what the next America's Choice will be?? Guess it doesn't really matter since I heard about the votebot stuff, what will my one vote count for?

Cliotheleo

Monday, August 18, 2003 - 09:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
No Mystery, I don't think you're understanding my point (probably because I didn't explain it very wel.) Not having contact with your father when you're little is a lot harder than when you're grown. Of course I realize that Robert's daughter sent a letter to him, not vice versa but still, I'm sure Jack's grown children (I think he's the only other HG with kids, right?) can handle the separation a little better than a seven year old (or however old she is.)

Sanfranjoshfan

Monday, August 18, 2003 - 10:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, Cliotheleo, it occurred to me as well that the letter is just going *from* the daughter *to* the dad so she won't be getting a letter from her father....but when I thought about it, I realized that they will surely show Robert reading that letter on the air and that he will undoubtedly say something about his daughter (or directly to her) on camera, which will also be aired. The kid will get dad's reaction and some feedback, so it actually will be a two way communication to some degree...

Cliotheleo

Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 05:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And now ANYONE who STILL doesn't think Robert should have won America's Choice after seeing that segment about he and his daughter on the show tonight can just kiss my big white hiney.

Philamom

Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 06:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope his daughter isn't allowed to watch BB ... I don't think it's appropriate for a 7-year-old. Maybe her mother will just let her watch the part where he gets the letter. Or maybe not ... to see her father getting so emotional may upset her. You never really know how kids are going to react to that.

Beruthiel

Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 06:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Haven't seen the show yet, and don't fancy any big white hiney other than my spouse's, Clio, so you can keep yours decently covered, if you don't mind!

Squaredsc

Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 06:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
well alrighty then clio, rofl. i was choked up myself.

Cricket

Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 06:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, I got it....Xarph is married to Hillary, ROFL!

I thought Robert's daughter was a very cute little girl. I'm with you though, Philamom, she's way too young to watch the show. Hopefully his parents' taped it and just showed her the part about her letter. The white butterfly meaning he's thinking of her is a very nice thing.

Cliotheleo

Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 06:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, I want BB to release a whole bevy of white butterflies into the back yard now. That was beautiful.

Widowswalk

Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 07:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Somebody slap me back to reality. After watching CBS's editing tonight, for a second , after seeing Robert's adorable daughter- I jumped up and yelled " give Robert all the money"! After I calmed down I realized I was had by the CBS editing crew.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 07:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
SNORK!! I expect to choke up but hopefully I'll be able to control myself re: Robert winning any money :)