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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Penalty Nomination?
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Wadsters

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh...thanks.

Maliboo

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So, all a House Guest has to do is pretend they forgot and they can eat anything they want!

Xarph

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just sent my email Robert & Cookie to aspproductions@aol.com

Misslibra

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes Big Brother bring back David in place of Robert. Robert should be out for eating a cookie or they should make him stay on the PB&J diet for one extra day.

Laisey

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I read above that Robert asked Ali if he could have a cookie and she said yes. According to the rules if you are not on pb&j and give food to someone who is on pb&j, both get penalty nominations. So now we have Dana with candy, Robert with a cookie and Ali gave permission to Robert. They may have to spread the penalty noms out for the rest of the season so they don't have ecveryone in the house nominated and no one to cast a vote.

Max

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Put 'em all on the block and let 'em all vote. LOL THAT would stir things up!

Xarph

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Suppose they actually do give Robert a penalty nomination for eating the cookie...

Robert will then be free to eat anything he wants. They can not give him two penalty nominations. Robert is smart enough to figure this out.

Cinder

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He only got a warning.

Maliboo

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He should get an extra week of PB&J.

R151996

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If they ever actually gave a player one penalty nomination, that should never prevent a second penalty nom. The player would just stay nominated for a second week automatically if they survived the first week.

Robert just said he WAS warned with the threat of penalty nomination, but the producer (John) said don't do it again. Not much of a warning if you ask me.

Xarph

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It is official. Producer John told Robert (in the DR) not to worry about the cookie eating.

Max

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Like I said, I don't think they will EVER issue a penalty nomination. It's just a hammer they hold over the HGs heads in an attempt to control them. One of these days, one of the hamsters is going to realize this and do whatever they want to do. Maybe Robert will be the trend-setter.

Laisey

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the only time a penality nomination MIGHT be given would be if one of the pb&j'ers just sat down at the table with the others and proceeded to really chow down. That would be pretty hard to ignore or to just give a warning.

Mcraig2

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 04:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Robert ate a cookie and Dana ate candy...RIGHT after the competition. Jun asked her, "are you eating candy?" Dana replied.."shhhhhhhh." So where's HER penalty nomination?

They called her in the DR right after that, so they probably scolded her too. When she came back to the bedroom, she told Jun they're not allowed to talk about her dream...whatever that was. She didn't mention the candy though.

Kalekona

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 04:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He didn't eat the cookie...i was watching he and Ali were in deep conversation and he picked up the cookies and asked her if he could open them she said by all means, they kept talking as he opened the package, they went to FOTH before he even had one out of the bag.

Neither he nor Ali were even thinking about what he was doing.

Max

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 04:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ali SAID Robert ate a cookie. Robert didn't deny it. They went to FOTH before we saw whether he ate it or not and when they returned, they weren't showing the HOH room anymore. Later, they said something about Robert being called to the DR and told not to do it again.

ALthough none of us can be 100% certain because we weren't allowed to see it for ourselves, I'd say the probability is on the side of Robert eating the cookie.

I just don't think that BB will ever actually USE that penalty nomination threat. So far, no HG has been bold enough to really test it out, but this slapping on the hand stuff is going to eventually backfire on BB and someone WILL test the waters with more than a little toe. :)

Mcraig2

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 05:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I actually SAW Dana eating candy, though, and Jun questioned her about it. And Robert was guilty too...by his own admission.

Eeyoreslament

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 05:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Haven't we figured this out yet?!!! BB will only issue a penalty nomination when it suits the show, and they want a specific person out. Right now, the show is interesting, and it is going the producers' way. Rules only count on BB when it suits the show.


AARRRGH!!!

Laisey

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 05:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This is too good not to share. I had a vision of people in the ASP offices frantically googling "penality nomination" looking for discussion boards where they could find a poster's idea of how to use one. So I googled the term and right at the top of the page was a link to a Clubhouse page from 2001 on Ryn's site. Ryn -- you're indispensible.

Konamouse

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 05:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As it stands now, there really isn't any penalty for "cheating" on the PB & J diet, so why should they bother to "play the game" within the rules?

IMHO, an eating penalty should be loss of the daily stipend. Every day you break the deal on the PB & J, you lose your stipend for the day. So, if they refuse to follow the PB & J diet, they will just not get paid for the week. For most HG, this will be much more incentive than the threat of (but never used) Penalty Nomination (especially if they are already nominated, why should they care about any penalty).

'squeek'

Jigglywigglyjun

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 05:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Penatlies nominations are a joke.. a big big joke.. Robert should go ahead and eat if he likes BB is a softy with these HGS its completly laughable!

Gina8642

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 06:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They can't financially punish folks for breaking the rules. They are woking for CBS while they are on TV (and while in sequestration to be at CBS's beck and call). While doing this work, they have NO OTHER MEANS of supporting themselves. When people WORK for you, you have to PAY them. When you don't, it is called slavery. These people are FINANCIALLY DEPENDANT on CBS during their time in the house (and sequestration) to pay their bills et al. If CBS doesn't pay them, they cannot afford to take time off of working.

Someone suggested an extra day on PB&J for each time they broke the rules. After several warnings (maybe thee?), that seems like a proportionate and appropriate 'punishment' for sneaking a cookie.

With all the screaming and yelling going on in here, you'd think they murdered someone and deserved the death penalty. Robert ate a cookie, he didn't hold a knife to someone's neck. Nor did he eat regular food over and over again. Think proportionate. Just like in real life the punishment should be proportionate to the crime. Over stay your parking meter, pay $10. Commit premeditated murder, go to prison for life.

Threatening to change the entire dynamics of the game (which BTW hurts more HGs than just the rule breaker) is like trowing someone in prison for the rest of their lives for not paying a parking ticket. Extremely disproportionate.

Kellirippa

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 06:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Let's just quit wondering about penalty nominations, you either get a wrist slap in the DR, or you go to the DR and don't ever come back...

Costacat

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 06:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually, Kona, they can get in "trouble" for breaking the "rules." Unfortunately, we don't quite know the definition of "trouble" or "rules." But I would suspect that if a HG went around and blatantly broke the rules (i.e. eating burgers during PB&J time), there are things that BB can do. The ghosts of penalty noms notwithstanding, they can be removed from the house for violations of BB's house rules.

Puzzled

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 07:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wish they'd just forget the whole PB&J thing. It was novel at first, but now its boring--who cares?

Why don't they have comps for the chores, like who does dishes, cleans towels, etc., for the week?

Pirate

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 07:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
One way to punish them is to not allow them to compete in either a luxury challenge or a veto challenge. I think this is better incentive to keep them eating PB&J and not cheat.

Twiggyish

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 08:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good point Pirate.

Justavice

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 08:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Shortly after the Food Competition, Robert commented that he was thinking about eating what he wanted and getting the penalty nomination (as opposed to PBJ). Surely someone at BB heard him say this. Whether the cookie was an accident or not, he already considered the consequences.

Konamouse

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 08:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gina8642 asked

Random thought - do you suppose a diabetic couldn't be on this show? (or a hypoglycemic?) If they needed to bring up their blood suger and they were on PB&J, would they be allowed to eat candy or drink juice?

If someone with diabetes was in the house, they could very easily treat a low blood glucose with jelly (works the same as juice or sugar). White bread has a pretty high glycemic index (raises blood glucose fast) as well.

Cliotheleo

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 08:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kona, don't know about the diabetes part, but I am hypoglycemic and could live the rest of my life eating PB&J. A lot of hypoglycemics carry PB crackers as quick snacks when they need them because peanut butter is high in protein.

Raindancer

Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 08:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think a good punishment is to lose one week of their pay for being there. (for any infraction) That should cure it.