Archive through July 27, 2003
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Archive through July 27, 2003
Bohawkins | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 04:22 pm     C1mag.. I agree with you. (That's a first, isn't it?) In order for this thing to get interesting Dana's group needs to be hit. Then we can see the little sub-groups and deals being made and it will be fun to watch. Just seeing one of the Jee group get HOH and nominate jack,ali nate or erika would be quite a bore. |
Hamsterlady | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 04:23 pm     I hope David doesn't go but if he does, wouldn't it be a hoot if it was Amanda that was there to greet him???? |
Cricket | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 04:24 pm     I agree Spunky. He felt he was righting a wrong and I applaud him also. |
Costacat | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 04:32 pm     I predict that this thread will reach 300 posts before Wednesday's eviction show. This will be due, in part, because the houseguests will flip flop on who they actually want to vote out. Will it be David? Will it be Jack? Costacat guarantees you it'll be one of 'em though! <meow> P.S. ALL of the above is intended as humor. |
Onlyhuman | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 04:33 pm     So, Cricket, though they all lied to Dana's face and would have evicted her if Jee would have put her on the block, REMOVING an ex (Michelle) who was the O8's intended target, that's OKAY. But Dana, winning HOH and not telling them who she was going to put up so they could talk her out of it, or threaten her, as the case may be, that's WRONG? See, I think Dana has gone overboard with her whole "fairness" schtick and will freely admit that. But Nathan has this "holier than thou" view that Dana betrayed them all for no reason. His condescending offer to her today, that she could "make things right" by coming back to the O8, all of whom hate her at this time, was obnoxious and it showed that it wasn't about righting a wrong, it was about his sense of entitlement! His harem was supposed to stick by him, though he would have had no hesitation to sell her out if the price was right. |
Nexell2 | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 04:39 pm     Cricket- I totally agree with you. Dana to me, is just a poor excuse for a human being. She deserves everything that will come to her and none of it is going to be good. I didn't like the Nate with the harem but now he is a hero. |
Maris | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 04:40 pm     The interesting thing is that David and Erika are really pissed at Nate and they arent pissed so much because Nate took Ali off, but because Ali and Nate kept it from them. It showed Erika, David and Jack that there is no alliance (not that there ever was one). Regardless of who ends up going this week it will jump things around and it will all come down to who Erika decides to align herself with. Will she align with Nate and Ali when she knows they will lie and deceive her as they have to Michelle and Dana or will Erika decide to take her chances on the exes and prioritize removing Nate and Ali. It isnt a done deal that Nate has his alliance anymore. |
Onlyhuman | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 04:44 pm     Maris, do you think that they are really angry, or are they just playing it up to try to convince the other group that they are on their side. Even a little bit ago, when they were sitting on the couch, playing cards, I thought they might be making those cracks because they knew Justin was in the other room. If that's the case, it's a BRILLIANT strategy, though not for Jack, of course! |
Maris | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 04:52 pm     I am going by their conversation when they were alone playing cards. There was nobody in the room and they were speaking low. |
Trubycat | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 05:00 pm     Nate and Ali did not keep it from Dave. They told him last night. He claimed he understood. They sort of promised he'd be safe (even though the cannot promise him anything of the sort). |
Spunky | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 05:22 pm     Do they still think Nate and Ali are going to vote Dave off?? It will be funny to see that the only two voting for Jack to go are Ali and Nate. Ah! One way to get back to the original alliance is for Nate to tell Dave he's safe with him and Ali's votes. Dave will go to Dana and tell her he's got the votes if the exes will do the same he'll stay in the game. |
Maris | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 05:44 pm     They were still not consulted by Ali and Nate. It was very clear that David, Erika have no power in the alliance and will be excluded by Ali and Nate if need be. I would not be surprised to see Erika and Dave doing a deal with the exes. I think the original alliance is gone. Lets see how it plays out. If I was in their I would jump ship from the original alliance. I would target Nate and Ali, then I would go after Jun and Justin. |
Spunky | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 05:56 pm     Yeah, but if Nate and Ali are put together you'd still have one of them, the same goes for Jun and Justin, one of them remains.. It seems the wish of the opponents is to eliminate both when all they can do is eliminate one and it's this one who could change the game again... between saying and doing there is a lot of spooling... |
Onlyhuman | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 05:57 pm     Dave/Jack and Erika would be very smart to NOT win HOH next Thursday. They have no allegiance to anyone and they would be better off letting the other two groups duke it out. In a way, this has worked out better for the stooges, because, if D/J & E do throw it, it's 4 against 2, rather than the 4 against 4 that they would have faced with a solid Nathan, Jack, Erika and Dave alliance. Of course, since it is guaranteed that Alison will win, according to her, then none of that matters. I would not put it past BB to have another contest that heavily favors Nathan and her. |
Spunky | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 06:03 pm     No favors by BB at all!! Nate was desperate because Ali was winning and if Ali won he'd be now in the hot seat. Nate had to win! The others didn't even try. |
Onlyhuman | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 06:07 pm     Well, besides the balls, which, BTW, Nathan thinks was slanted towards him, there is also that wonderful little spinning machine contest yesterday. The fact that Alison is a figure skater used to spinning gave her a CLEAR advantage. BB was hoping for some stimulating footage out of their romantic dinner, but didn't know that it wouldn't come until Ali had to use her body to convince Nate to stick with using the veto. |
Maris | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 06:12 pm     Abolutely the competitions were slanted. In fact Alison said she won it because of her training. When she learned cheerleading they were taught to memorize all the surroundings before the spin that way when they came out they could keep going. Nobody else had that training. Nate also was set up to win the POV. This is all about tv and if BB can nudge it along they will. Like yesterday when they couldnt dump Jee in the pool the diary room asked them how come they couldnt get it right and do it again. The only element of chance is the nominations. BB knows who they want to win the competitions. The question is who do they want to win HOH this week? |
Lurknomore | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 06:17 pm     This REALLY makes you wonder how Alison and Arnie got their jobs. They are slanting their show in a way that will elminated one of their 2 highest rated contestents???? Oh there's some great logic with that. Of course maybe they are so out of touch they didn't realize what Nate and Ali would do. DUH! How in the world did this production company get this gig? |
Onlyhuman | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 06:18 pm     My guess is that Ali is going to win this week, because there is no better TV than the "triumph over adversity" when Ali, saved from eviction, is now in the power. Maris, do you feel part of a very small group these days? |
Cliotheleo | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 06:20 pm     Kind of reminds you of last year when Amy won the competition where she, the beauty queen, had to balance a book on her head. Am I remembering that right? Anyway, there was some competition that Amy kicked everyone's butts on that was clearly slanted in her favor. |
Spunky | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 06:20 pm     Okay, I'll have to see the comp on tv to see if you're right! Since the HOH is more of a trivia comp we'll see who has the best memory, I don't think BB knows how smart they are and will have several questions aimed at everyone not some. The only reason I want one of the originals to win is because I want a tiebreaker, that's suspense. I really don't care who goes or who stays. |
Delilah | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 06:22 pm     Yupper Clio, you are right. (edited to add, of course BB slants the HOH comps, they can't let the hamsters have total control of the show now can they? They want good TV.  |
Cliotheleo | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 06:24 pm     And btw, fellow fans of Bb4 winner Dave ......... we have officially switched from "not assuming he's nominated until he is" to "not assuming he's evicted until he is," so please make a note of it. The only problem is I think Dave is ALSO using that same philosophy and desperately needs to do SOMETHING to save his butt. |
Maris | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 06:25 pm     Remember the last HOH was won by default, everyone got the question wrong. That was a set up too. Dana had said she takes her time answering questions because Julie asks them twice. The two most competitive people were with her and they were like Jeopardy contestants, ringing the bell before they thought. Dana was set up for that one too. I think the winner of the HOH might be Erika. Will she nominate Robert? or will she nominate Ali and Nate who broke up her alliance? She has realized that Good old Jack who didnt compete in anything, ended up on the block and out the door. She may just start competing. It could be Robert, will he nominate Erika or go after Nate and Ali. |
Onlyhuman | Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 06:26 pm     Spunky, they can listen to them practice all the time so they DO know what facts and information they know cold. Ali they have to do is pick the questions they know that Ali knows. |
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