Hobbs | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:28 am     Hey, the veto was used for the first time in years, maybe the penalty nom is next! |
Chy | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:29 am     Hob |
Zachyd | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:29 am     Yes, they could manage putting something together,not everything has to be garlic bread and a chef's special! |
Lostintheglades | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:30 am     Didn't they set up their own teams??? |
Zachyd | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:32 am     I think Alison picked the teams.Correct me if i am wrong. |
Jpgramma | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:33 am     The only thing that could have been sweeter is if June had been on the losing team as well. (switched with Erika). I'd have loved to watch Dana and June as Erika and Ally took control of the kitchen and whipped up some fanatastic meals for the eaters every night. The combo of only having PB&J to eat along with losing her chef's crown would have been priceless to watch. |
Kalekona | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:50 am     So when are they cahnging the name of the show from Big Brother to "The Nate and Ali Show"? They wanted this, talked about it, laughed about. This just isn't right. And I don't think it's a bit funny. One of the most vindictive things I've seen on this show and I have no doubt it was arrainged. Might as well place your bets friends it will be nate and ali in the end, not only do they have God on their side they have BB too. |
Maris | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:54 am     I suspect Kale that BB wants Ali to win. I think that Bo is right about the competition being rigged in Jack and Ali's favor yesterday and given that they were annoyed that Dani didnt win it last year and changed the rules accordingly, I think we can expect some more tweaking. It is Ali's to win if she just helps BB along a little bit. I would be very interested in hearing all those diary room conversations. |
Crazydog | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:54 am     What was vindictive? Dana has made no secret of how much she hates Nate and Ali so I have no problems with them laughing at Dana's misfortune. And I'm not sure what you mean by "arranged" - are you saying that BB purposely made sure that Dana would be on PB&J? Did Alison really pick the teams? Because I'm not sure what the perceived unfairness is - one team had three of the Alliance of Five and the other had two. |
Spunky | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:55 am     Oh Kale... come sit by me I'll make you a pbj sandwich... |
Llwynn | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:57 am     I don't think BB arranged for Ali to win anything. The simple fact is Ali practiced to win the HOH competition while the stooges stood by with their cocky attitudes and snickered at her. More power to her for winning it. She deserved it. |
Seanflynn2003 | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:01 am     Maris, love your posts, but I think you are very misleading about BB being annoyed that Danielle did not win last year. I don't really think they care who wins; what they didn't like about last year was they perceive (correctly) that Danielle did not win last year because the other HGs saw her Diary Room comments, and if this year's HGs were aware of that, they would be far less open and interesting this year. That is a far different thing from saying that BB favored Danielle. |
Crazydog | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:02 am     I agree, Llwynn. She really figured out how to shake that bottle just right to get those ping pong balls to come out faster. At one point she had a bunch dribbling out. The more that comes out, the more chance you have of getting some in. I agree, she deserved the win. |
Maris | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:03 am     Sean in an interview Arnold Shapiro said the diary room cost Dani the 500k and he was changin the rules this year. So that is pretty clear to me that Arnold would have preferred Dani over Lisa or he would have left things the way they were. |
Seanflynn2003 | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:05 am     What SHapiro said proves my point totally. He was annoyed about the reason Danielle lost, not that Danielle lost, and the reason he was annoyed is because it would hurt the quality of the program this year if the rules hadn't changed. |
Crazydog | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:05 am     Seanflynn, right. They couldn't care less who wins. They don't care if the best player wins or if someone just happens to luck out. The thing they care most about is making an interesting TV show. After Danielle blew it in the DR last year, they were very afraid that no one would be forthcoming about others in this year's DR interviews. The DR entries where people make fun of each other and talk strategy are the best ones. |
Maris | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:08 am     Arnold didnt care that the Diary room gave will the game the year before. I am not saying it is a total fix but I think there is something to the speculation that the competitions (not pb&j) are fixed to benefit some players over others. Who wins in the end, is up to the players. They just might get a little help now and then. |
Seanflynn2003 | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:13 am     If BB had favorites, the time to show that is before the final. There is no program after the final, so why would they care who won? And if they cared about favorites, why is Dave out so early? I bet the producers aren't happy he is gone, but that's what happened. And there was a big difference between BB2 and BB3. Will was much the same in the DR as he was outside; Danielle was different. That's why it had the impact for BB3 that it didn't for BB2 (and remember Will won mainly because he was up againt Nicole). The impact of diary room entries determining the winner first came up in BB3, so it had to be dealt with the first time this year. |
Crazydog | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:14 am     The Diary Room did not give Will the win in BB2. He had told everyone in advance he was going to lie to them, and he did. He was just as forthright in the DR about the HGs and his strategy as he was to their face. In the end, he won over Nicole because the HGs believed he played a better game than her. I believe the sole reason for the sequestering change was so we could hear the HGs strategy and thoughts as to how they are playing the game. If they were afraid that this would be seen by the evicted HGs, then they would never tell us anything and then we the TV viewers would be confused as to why they did what they did. And I don't believe that any competitions are fixed to favor some. Are you speculating that the bottle drop was favored for Alison to win? How? Was her tube wider or did she get a bottle with a bigger opening? It doesn't seem to me like that would happen. |
Minnyace01 | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:16 am     I agree with Crazydog. Ali and Nate spent their time practicing how to get the balls out faster so that they would increase their opportunities of balls going into the tubes. But Maris, I'm sure if you look hard enough, you'll find someone hiding behind the grassy knoll (or hottub),and that person helped Ali win the HOH. |
Crazydog | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:17 am     Yes, and if BB really had favorites then things would have been rigged to make Eric advance farther in the game last year. He was the All-American good-looking young firefighter, at a time when firefighters and cops were being revered as heroes in the wake of 9/11. Instead, he loses the critical HoH to Gerry on a math question. Then when there is a chance he can come back into the house, they didn't have a physical competition, they had a vote amongst the remaining houseguests. If BB really played favorites they would have done more to keep him around longer. |
Hobbs | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:19 am     Maris, I say in some cases you're right. There have definatly been comps that favored one person. But the waterjug/ball comp did not favor Ali. She and Nate just practiced all day. What I want to know, is who is thinking up these stupid games anyway. I can't imagine standing by the water cooler looking at the bottles and thinking of putting balls in them. I guess I'm just not imaginative. |
Seanflynn2003 | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:22 am     Hobbs, they fall victim to their wanting to have the HoH contest live on TV, then having a very short time to do it. This is one of the weakest links in the BB chain; maybe because I live in PDT and always learn beforehand who has won I am a bit biased, but I don't care if they did it off air if it could be more inventive |
Jpgramma | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:27 am     So what's up with dana eating a piece of candy then getting called to the DR, coming out and telling her buds she 'can't talk about it"? Seems to me the BB rule book is just paper full of empty threats. What do they do in that DR? slap their wrists with a wet noodle when they break the rules? |
Spunky | Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:29 am     Is it true that Penalty Nomination is just a threat by BB... I feel that if all of them eat regular food nothing will happen... they can't kick them all out!! |