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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Is it really Nate's fault that David is leaving?: Archive through July 29, 2003

Goddessatlaw

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 03:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
With some help from Hillary, they're two for one ya know.

Cliotheleo

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 03:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't like Nate

I don't like his hair

I don't like his beady teeth

I don't like his accent

I don't like his country boy attitude

I don't like his girlfriend

BUT!!! I DO like having someone to despise in the house and for THAT I adore him!!!!! :)

Xarph

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 03:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
True Goddess. Hillary is equally culpable. What BB4 house really needs is someone like Ann Coulter. She would set things straight!

Pantageas

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 03:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It makes me wonder why all this "bashing" is deemed necessary in the first place. My BB nomination speech as HOH:

"We are all playing a game where 11 of the 13 players in this house will be nominated, then voted to eviction. That's 85% of the HGs. We will all take turns nominating - we will all take turns voting. This week it is HG1 and HG2's turn to be nominated."

I don't understand the need for the players/contestants(or FANS) of reality shows to villify each other. Are you out of your mind if you rooted for Clay over Ruben? Or "How could Danielle not have won?"; "Jenna beat Matt?"; "You DON'T hate Dana?"; "How can you possible like Allie?". Blah blah woof woof. It's a big GAME people!

With this year's BB4 as divided as they are, you'd think there'd be even LESS need for villification: "HG1 and HG2 - neither of you are allied with me or reached an agreement with me. Therefore, on the block you go!". All the other drama is rather silly...

Jdctexas

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 03:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cliotheleo: BRAVA and well said!!!

Amac

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 03:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It's Dave's own fault. If he hadn't applied to be on the show in the first place, he wouldn't find himself in this predicament now.

Fuzzyb

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 03:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
don't like Robert

I don't like his hair

I don't like his Nose pickin'

I don't like his accent

I don't like his I'm a stud attitude

I don't like his conversation

BUT!!! I DO like having someone to despise in the house and for THAT I adore him!!!!!

Nate is from Oklahoma - thats how we talk here.

Whit4you

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 03:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well the question is "Is it nate's fault that David is leaving" - of course not, he can only do one vote, and if the majority vote for him to leave then he'll leave.

If the question were "Is it Nate's fault that David is now on the block" I'd have to say of course, he choose to use the veto - knowing he was sacrificing either Dave or Jack for Ali. He has every right to do this. It's his fault Dave is on the block, but not HIS fault Dave is leaving - everyone in the house is making that choice..

Cliotheleo

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 03:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL! Fuzzy, I'm from Tennessee, that's how we talk here too (sort of) but I STILL don't like it! :)

Cricket

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 04:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ROFL @ Xarph & Goddess. Peachy, you hit it on the head. Dana is playing personal and obviously doesn't see that she could possibly be responsible for David leaving. Go figure.

Willsfan

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 04:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Didn't David win the veto last week? Why didn't he use it? There was a 50|50 chance they would have put up Dana.

Texasdeb

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 04:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nate won the Veto. Nate believes Ali is his strongest chance to go the farthest in the game. I personally don't like Ali staying & either Dave or Jack going - but, Nate did what Nate believed was the best thing for Nate. Remember, there will be only 1 winner & we are going to see everyone playing with their own best interest - screw everyone else as far as the game goes. Just wish that one of my 2 fav's wasn't leaving tomorrow. I'll still watch & hang out here w/these hampsters because they are my choice of entertainment.

Willsfan

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 04:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So David DID NOT win a POV? So who was it then? I MUST be watching a different BB cause the one I watched showed David NOT using the POV.
Nathan won it the last time. That competition has not yet been shown on tv.

Cliotheleo

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 04:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Willsfan ......... yes, David won the veto last week, but they decided that if he used it to save Erika, Jee would just put up Jack and they wouldn't accomplish anything. Better to try and get out Michelle.

Of course if that had happened and David was up against Erika at this point, we can only speculate what would have happened.

Delilah

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 04:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Willsfan, David won the veto last week and chose not to save Michelle or Ericka, Nate won it this time (we know because of the feeds) they have not shown it on TV yet, they will show it tonight. Do you have the feeds or are you just watching the show?

Willsfan

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 04:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Both. Live feeds and the show.
I am saying David should have used it when he had the opportunity. There was a chance, a slim chance that they would have put Dana.

Cliotheleo

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 04:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hang on Delilah, in true Clio fashion, I'm not gonna BELIEVE that Nate REALLY won the veto and used it to save Ali thereby putting BB4 David on the block until I see it with my own eyes!!! (ha ha)

Delilah

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 04:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Clio!!! If only eh? Unfortuntely we will see tonight, will you be spoiling with me? Dang Clio, what are we gonna do without David? Shall we latch onto Justin instead?

Very true Willsfan, but hindsight is 20/20.

Jpgramma

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 04:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
in a word, NO
Nate didn't nominate him. Dana did.

Cliotheleo

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 04:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Done already latched girl!!! (Justin looks like an old boyfriend of mine who coincidentally wrestled at Iowa State so falling for Justin took all of about 10 mins.)

Would love to help you out and am honored that you've invited me, but I like to put ALL of my attention on the show. I'm gonna hang with you all for another hour, then I'll switch rooms, man the VCR remote and meet you back here at 8 my time.

Delilah

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 04:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OK we are offically Justin dorks now then! Are you on EST? I will be spoiling for the westies, hopefully someone will be around to help. I emailed redstar but haven't heard back yet. See ya over there girlie!

Peachie

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 04:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Delilah I cant latch on to Justin, He is kinda cute but he is no David, David entertains me, I like him, it will be boring in the house without him, it surely will golly. Justin is always using the phrase that he doesnt like when people lie to him. do these people realize that everyone of them lie to each other, are they that dumb and naieve to believe that none of them lie, including the unlatching Justin. LOL He is not one of my least favs but havent grown to like him just yet, heck I dont even know of any of them I like besides Dave and Jack. I like Erika but iffy about her a little. ;o)

Delilah

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 04:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Peachiekins, our Davie is going bye byes, the only others I like besides him are Jack and Ericka and Justin. I don't know why, I just like Justin and think he has grand potential to win, plus that smile of his is killer!

Cliotheleo

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 04:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, I'm in TN, central time zone.

But no, we are NOT official Justin dorks YET!!! Not for another 24 plus hours. There's still got to be SOME way to save him ............. like, I dunno .......... but surely there's some way. I'm still holding out for what's his name from the Amazing Race to show up with a guy in a folk costume next to him to tell Dave that "you have been voted out by the house.......... fortunately, this is a non-elimination round. You are still in the game."

Fuzzylogic

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 04:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
First I agree that Nate being at fault for David being PUT UP is the better way to phrase this. Nate does only have one vote.

Nate knew the probability was high that Dana would put David up, and that Dana and her gang would then vote David out (they see Jack as weak).

Nate KNOWS that to win he must get rid of David sooner or later - same with Jack.

Nate is the reason David will likely go - its what he wants. This vote is a win-win for Nate.