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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Erika's JA is BB1 Josh?: Archive through September 01, 2003

Weinermr

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 05:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That gave me the best laugh of the afternoon Zmom. Thanks!

Zachsmom

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 05:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
my pleasure...really it's my pleasure

Squaredsc

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 05:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
thats my 'mom. she took the words right out of my mouth.

Weinermr

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 05:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What a cheeky bunch.

Zachsmom

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 05:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
myimage

Egbok

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 05:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Isn't that the cutest picture of Weinermr? I love the little MM guitar too!

Grannyg

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 05:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Which one Eggie, the one in the profile or the one Zmom posted?

Weinermr

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 05:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL - I give up.

Amac

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 05:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
News flash! Another picture posted at BB Chatter indicates it isn't Josh and Erika after all!

Bunky & Erika

It's Bunky and Erika!

Weinermr

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 06:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that rumor is bunk.

Bastable

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 06:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She must be held to his back by Velcro.

Weinermr

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 06:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Velcro? I don't see him in the picture.

Woofy

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 06:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Erika and Chicken George ... or perhaps Erika and her lesbian lover (and former beauty queen) Miss Jamie!

Hamsterlady

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 06:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Josh sure has aged.

Earthmother

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 06:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jamie would have to be on Erika's back though because she couldn't hold onto her legs without dropping her mascara and lip gloss...

Chy

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 06:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Spear, Bo, Cross, Myjohnhenry, Wendo, SFJF and so many! You guys are so observent and hard-working, just the kind of talents FBI is looking for.

Get ready now, Jack is going to talk to you all about hooking you with the right people for career as soon as he's done with the BB obligations!

;-D

Earthmother

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 06:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No way Chy..based on Jack's talent of observation the people you have mentioned are far too skilled..he would recruit someone like me who couldn't observe myself if I were looking in a mirror with binnoculars....

Wendo

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 07:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Earthmother said, "<snip> What I don't agree with is that someone is being called Shady because he (isn't on the show or being paid by anyone connected with the show)chooses not to divulge personal and private information. Josh does not owe any of us or anyone else this information. If you have a problem with his column now that you do know (or think you know) then don't read it."

Earthmother, it is a bit shady, imo, because it's clear from the summaries that are up on the site that Josh is biased in favor of Erika. This is clear because one, she's listed as most entertaining HG every week but one; two, he makes no mention of Erika's rant after being nominated the first time (YET it's mentioned at virtually every other website as well as TV Guide); and third, becuase he purposefully takes steps in his articles to make it appear as if he doesn't know her.

As to Josh owing us or his readers an explanation; you're right, he doesn't owe them one. However, his various websites are a professional venture by him, he's advertising himself as a commentator on BB; where most would believe that said commentator is objective and impartial.

Additionally, even though he doesn't owe his readers information, readers will feel deceived and duped. It's an issue of credibility and, because of this, Josh has hurt his credibility. You may not agree, but there are many others who feel the same way as I.

I'll continue to read Josh's commentaries as I've always enjoyed them. However, I'll read them being aware of the bias that exists because the writer knows one of the contestents personally. I would have preferred to have known it in the beginning, even though Josh didn't owe an explanation.

Kappy

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 12:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hasn't Erika tried out for BB before? Maybe that's when they met?

Either way, I'm really happy for Josh as I always liked him and I also like Erika. I never liked Brittany so I'm doubly happy. But I also respect the right of others to completely disagree and feel badly that Josh has deceived them. If, in fact, he has.

Mrose4243

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 09:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I just got back from a weekend away and could not wait to get back to this thread! I wish the next BB would include some of you hysterically funny and insightful people, it would really be worth giving up 3 months of my life for! (Oh, wait, I already do!)

Anyway, just had to put my 2 cents in that I agree with Bastable, JustShirley, Onlyhuman and others who are bothered by this.

Especially the fact that Robert could have really hurt Erika in the game with this knowledge, and I wonder what his incentive is to hide it. I think it must be something big that someone is holding over his head because he is the kind of person who would stop at nothing - as we have seen in his influence over Jee in his mission of getting Erika out since the beginning. Robert had told David that Erika would 'kill his whole family', this info about her relationship with Josh would be much more effective and would probably have gotten Erika out the second week. So we have to assume that the BB producers are the ones 'blackmailing' him in some way. The problem with this is that it appears that the producers want Erika to win. If BB is under the jurisdiction of 'game show' rules, then they are 'stacking the deck' and this is what caused the scandal and big trouble for the network and producers on the old game show '64,000 Question"

It does not bother me that Josh & Erika have a relationship, it bothers me that AS is determined to keep it secret.

Ok, me and my saggy butt are finished with this rant!

Lainee

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 09:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This could be another reason why Rob wants Erika out so bad. Makes it doubly hard to keep something secret when the person the secret is about is constantly in your face...so to speak!

Earthmother

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 09:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo I see where you are coming from, but it's his website. I don't always agree with newspaper editors who make sure their bias for perhaps a politian or sports figure or team are made obvious either, but since it belongs to them then I just have to accept that they can do with it what they want.

Mrose4243

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 10:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oooops, my saggy butt had one more thing to say:

If Josh and Erika really wanted to keep this secret, they would have removed pictures and any mention of their relationship from Josh's website BEFORE this year's show began.

Did they underestimate the fans of the show and especially this group at TVCH? Did they think that it would never come out??? Were they counting on Robert keeping his mouth shut??

ARE THEY STUPID???????????????????

Crazydog

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 10:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't understand, because I thought that Josh Souza is gay. The shows I watched, I thought he was gay, and then that odd striptease for Curtis and Eddie seemed to confirm it for me. I also thought that he officially came out of the closet after BB1 was over.

Sanfranjoshfan

Monday, September 01, 2003 - 10:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Crazydog - Josh Souza is not gay. There was a BB-UK Josh that came out of the closet which confused many....but that was not the Josh from the BB1-USA. A lot of people want to believe that he is gay for some reason.....but there is no evidence that he is.

Getting drunk and doing a striptease on live internet feeds and TV does mean that you are gay...it means you are DRUNK! :)