Shades of BB1 (Interesting people all gone)
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Shades of BB1 (Interesting people all gone)
Smokey | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 09:42 pm     Well...I think a more accurate view would be seeing Josh and Eddie (and not sure about Curtis being there) on that radio show with strippers sitting on their laps. |
Lurknomore | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 09:45 pm     Simple Kelli....BECAUSE WE GENUINELY LIKED THEM!!!! And still do! And I never think of them singing zippity do da...I hear The Trinitron Dance (32 inches....stereoooooooooo). Or their version of the BB song...which I might add I still have on my computer! And you got it Laisey! |
Kellirippa | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 09:48 pm     OK, I agree to disagree! Hyjacking completed, ya'all can have your thread back. |
Lurknomore | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 10:17 pm     hmmmmmmm....hijacking? thread back?...silly me thought we were sharing viewpoints and discussing. Isn't that why we are here? |
Juju2bigdog | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 11:19 pm     Oh good lord, bring back Ewing!* I never knew whether he intended to be as much fun as he was. *a poster who saw a conspiracy behind every bush |
Lurknomore | Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 11:26 pm     That added to the "mystique" JuJu  |
Sunshyne4u | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 01:40 am     Hmmmmmm Kellirippa? Guess you missed out on what was special about BB1. I agree that it did get boring at one point when Eddie would spend hours on his own reading in the bedroom, but the partying those people did!! WOO HOO!! They were REAL people with REAL fears and real hopes for the future. Only Jamie seemed fake and frankly many of the cast members of the last few seasons are equally shallow. ******* When we talk fondly of BB1 it is because of the way we were led to believe we were affecting things in the house. Megaphone lady, Banners, voting .....we had a say! That say is now gone so much of the fun is gone too. I loved the sound of Eddie's voice when he was singing. We felt like we 'knew' the people of the first season. I know little of the background, likes or dislikes of any of this years cast. Who has brothers? sisters? family? who has travelled where? These people dont VISIT!! they make small talk and conspire....that wasnt like the First BB. MY RANT IS OVER....now to be on topic! I would not say ALL the interesting people are all gone for indeed, this year I dont think there were really interesting people casted. This season has been DULL since the first day of feeds! IMHO |
Sunshyne4u | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 01:43 am     OH, LOL I had forgotten the Veggie Baseball of BB1!! I loved the PUG challenge though. Remember they filled the yard with like a million pugs?? Even a one-legged PUG! Now that was good ole fun! |
Whit4you | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 02:19 am     I'll always have fond memories of BB1.. some of my favorites... Joshie's drunken blue hair die, handrpints on the walls. Joshie jumping in the pool to save Pugita Eddie screaming to Brit when she left the live audiences after they left Eddie's comment after serveral of the contests / challenges were hard for him - (when he said the next contest will be... "You put your right foot in, you put your left foot...... ooops Eddie's out" (or somethign like that it was too funny) The look on everyone's face when they realized they were busted (ie they'd all nominated George) - You SMOKED ME! Brit claiming she was the most houseguest, Eddie says "Then you woke up...." Eddie yelling at the Angels during one of their missions Eddie - telling the camera "Don't turn away when I'm talking to you!!" The Dawn BBQ's The boys flirting with Julie, and the BB voice "Schoolgirl" The night the boys bribed the female BB voice to tell them a bedtime story. Eddies "SLACKERS!!!"(I use it all the time now.. Brit's "Pitter patter of little feet" and Eddies "Or in Eddies case Pitter Pitter" The all night dance marathon |
Tasha | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 02:49 am     I'm a huge lurker, but I just had to respond. I definitely have been bored out of my wits this season already. But I think that it's because the HGs this year are spending entirely too much time playing the game and it's dull watching them plot and plan almost every waking minute of the day. I actually liked the people in BB1 and no way were the houseguests left at the end ever boring, especially Eddie (OK, except for the reading part)! The night with him, Josh and Curtis was one of the funniest things I've ever seen. I long for the days when we all thought George was crazy for digging up the garden, until he really did find some money and the time Curtis accidently walked in on Brittany in the bathroom putting in a tampon. Heck, I'll even put up with Jaime's lip gloss again instead of watching this year's HGs! |
Scribe | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 05:25 am     Lurk: Gotta say - BB1 really was fun - did I ever lose sleep over that - left video on ALL night - when they snored I slept when a peep came up I woke up - I lose NO sleep over these folks and in fake wait paitently for the weekly TV episode - maybe that si what CBS was striving for - BB1 had me internet addicted - since that time I wait for the TV and check in on the board! We really did get to know those folks - Brittany with her crush on Josh and her committment issues - Curtis was just so much fun - George what a riot - Remember the boards that tried to sabotage him - we all thought his wife was behind a big sonspiracy - and maybe she was - I am not sure that it is the newer HGs fault that they are not as much fun since they come in right off the bat ready to play the game and make alliances so there is little mystery - but then I wouldn't miss the show even so . PS - Me too I would be delighted with Jaime's lip gloss again!!!!! |
Aus10 | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 06:36 am     Just another opinion. I too loved BB1!! I thought the premise of the whole show was, and still should be for that matter, that "Big Brother" is watching. How would you act if you were being watched? Everyone will act nice as long as BB was watching, but eventually little quirks and bad habits would come through. Imagine this year if it was like BB1....Robert is trying hard not to shove his finger up his nose because he knows 3 million are watching...but eventually, walla...the finger goes in up to his brain. The banners for that would have been hilarious. This has turned into survivor in a house. Complete with the bikini's and silicone. (No offense to Erika.) In BB1 we had real people. BB no longer gives them anything to do, doesn't control their life, and without us watching and voting it becomes a how mean do I have to be show. I'm sorry but this show has gotten so far away from the original idea of big brother it's not even funny. I think that the biggest complaining during BB1 came from teens who only thought that to have good TV you need T&A....too bad Arnie bought into it. Hey Arnie...it's time to grow up!!! |
Laisey | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 08:07 am     The BB1 HGs also had a different take on dressing up for the live show. I can still see Curtis, Eddie and Josh sitting side by side in dark pants, shirtless, and wearing fake black bowties. Our own Chippendales. The night George was evicted, I was really worrried that he would trip on that toga he was wearing when he was carrying his bags down the steps. |
Secretsmile | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 08:18 am     The one personality I've missed dearly since BB1 was Cassandra. She had the unique ability to keep a touch of class about her while not offending the silliness of the younger hg's. Oh and remember the all night dance contest and they had to wear those hats? |
Outlawout | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 08:24 am     Yeah I have never enjoyed a BB like I enjoyed BB1. I'll never forget Eddie and pugita. The point where George nearly had them all convinced that it was all a big test of their humanity and that they'd ALL win the money if they walked out together. And of course, Curtis! The dynamic was different, but I liked it. It tested the social/domestic skills of the HG's since it didn't pit them against one another quite so directly. I also miss the week-long challenges. They kept the houseguests necessarily working as a team and left little time for working out/sunbathing narcissism that the last three crews have exhibited (but the current cast has taken to an extreme) And I forgot about the 100 pugs Sunshyne! Thanks for reminding me! This year Jack is the only one I like, and I agree with him. I can't remember the exact quote but he is absolutely right: the prevelant mindset among this year's youngsters is banal, and juvenile to the point of being mind numbing. I think Jack may be the toughest guy on any reality show ever for not just going around smacking folks on the head all day and night. The mental torture he's enduring is worse than a Chinese prison camp. He's been labled boring by many, but I think he has lots of interesting things to say, but no one to say them to. Even Erika is an intellectual blackhole. A also agree that those evicted so far are not at all interesting to me. Especialy Dave, it was actually uncomfortable for me to watch someone so desperate for affection and so unable to deal with anything on serious terms. The signature Dave moment for me, was when he told Dana that Rob has said "just don't let that bi**h win" Dana called Rob over to get the story straight and Dave couldn't look them in the eye and just slunk around giggling. He was telling hte truth, but he was so unable to engage in genuine human interaction that he made himself look like he was the liar, since Rob was able to stand there and deny it with a straight face. |
Laisey | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 08:27 am     Whenever I remeber Cassandra for some reason I think of her website (I think it was her brother who set it up) and the slogan: You Can't Spell Class Without Cass. Her attitude seemed to be along the lines of let them have their fun, they're only young once. She was great. |
Costacat | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 08:37 am     The thing about BB1 was that we ALL laughed... us, the viewing audience, AND the houseguests! It was fun fun FUN! Yes, there were moments of boredom. But the houseguests made their own entertainment. The producers made them make their own entertainment. Except for the competitions this year, how much fun is it to watch the HGs plot while in the hot tub. Or work out on their abs. Or watch Jun cook, and cook again, and cook some more. BB1 folks had personalities, and they weren't afraid to let us see them. We got to see them in all their quirky glory. This current group is way too intent on becoming rich and famous when they leave (going on David Letterman? HA!), and using BB as their springboard to a long and fulfilling acting career (HA!). The fact that they had to do things to survive also made BB1 more fun. Raising chickens, growing veggies, making shopping lists, sleeping in bunk beds. Interacting with each other. We learned more about the BB1 houseguests in a few days than we've learned about this group in more than 3 weeks. At this stage, I think all of the interesting people stayed home. I mean, David had his moments of humor (the pool splashes, talking to the camera). But mostly, I think this group of houseguests is one big zzzzzzzz (snore). |
Laisey | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 08:53 am     Costa, don't you think that the biggest problem is that the producers start with preconceived ideas of the types of HGs they want. If they don't find those types among the people who actually apply, they go out looking for them. Unfortunately, recruiting people after observing them for a few hours at Belly's doesn't always work |
Kellirippa | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 09:11 am     oh yeesh... |
Lurknomore | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 09:43 am     Just reading the rest of this thread brought back more good memories...I had forgotton about George's toga and the "theme outfits" they made for the live shows each week. Since Arnie took over all we have had are drones that try to look good for their closeup Mr. DeMille. BLECH Ok JaiME was a wannabee but man in comparison I agree, I'd take her over these wannabees and I couldn't stand her. But at least she showed her human side, her flaws, her insecurities. I really would love to know what the casting people are thinking each year as they get less and less folks with ANY personality or life experiences, and clearly push for them to ONLY talk about strategy. True Arnie has made it clear from day one he wishes there was no internet audience and only cares about the TV show (wasn't he a fine casting choice for a 24/7 internet show), but as those super lame features showed last week they are already out of things to show on-air because lines are drawn in the house and beyond a few feeble attempts to save fanny and yet more strategy talk, what is there to show on TV either? Who here didn't know Dana was toast the minute Ali won HoH? Oh the suspense of it all....YAWN. If there is some PA or Intern reading these threads, I hope and pray they will print this thread out and plop it on Les Moonves's desk. (Arnie would only toss it out cause he's made it quite clear he could care less what the audience wants...he just has his narrow minded personal vision of eye candy and soap operas). What does it say when the most loyal of BB fans would rather sit and laugh over things that happened 4 years ago than watch new stuff today? I just am so infuriated at them ruining this show rather than fixing it...sure it needed some tweaks. Definately better TV production, and I thought then more interesting people for a few of them. But truthfully I think everyone cast in that group is more interesting than everyone this year, with the possible exception of Jack and we have no real clue since he has no one to talk to! I'm surprised he's not in there having long talks with the turtles...their IQ is higher than most HG's I'm sure. Since BB1 there have been bright spots...like Will's DR's, the Bunky and Kent show, Jason....but that's all they have been--brief fleeting moments or blips on a TV show. BB1 was enough to make people care and watch constantly. I never saw the complaints about the show or HG's then as we do now. Sure it wasn't everyone's cup of tea, but if you look at the vast majority I think it clearly shows what type of casting and show we, the loyal BB fans, would prefer. |
Lurknomore | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 09:48 am     Oh forgot to add to Laisey in my rant..I'm not sure I agree with you. I think if anyone from BB1 showed up at a casting call they would be overlooked, just as any real people would be. Heck half of the cast the last few years were recruited by Arnie...so what hope do any real people have??? And I think they had a very clear strategy this year....cast as many young, good looking people as possible, toss in some X's to stir the pot, and hope that romance or fights ensues. What are the 2 elements of a soap opera. The problem is if I wanted to see that I turn on All my Children, where the writing is better and they know enough to write well rounded characters you care about. |
Laisey | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 10:02 am     Lurk, we probably do agree. The point I was ineptly trying to make is that the producers start with specific types in mind and the only applicants considered are those who match what AS wants (or thinks he wants). In other words, if AS decided he wanted someone with a physical disability in the cast, Eddie would have been considered. But unless they specifically decided before they started to accept applications that was what they wanted, he would not have been considered. It seems like there is a script and they cast the HGs to fill specific roles. |
Lurknomore | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 10:04 am     Oh good I like it better when we agree |
Laisey | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 10:17 am     Lurk, me too. I guess it's too much to ask, but wouldn't it be great if AS would go for a really big twist next year and only cast people who applied? And only those who wanted to be on the show for fun or the money -- absolutely no one who wanted a career in show biz. You don't have to tell me; I know I'm delusional -- I think it's contagious and I caught it from the HGs. I know there's a shot for my condition -- it's called alcohol. |
Lurknomore | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 12:06 pm     I have a better idea...wouldn't it be great if AS was FIRED next year and they brought in a production company that had a clue?!?! |
Laisey | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 12:11 pm     From your keyboard to CBS's ear. |
Lurknomore | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 12:17 pm     AMEN  |
Sunshyne4u | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 02:53 pm     CANADA needs to do a BigBrother. WE would stick to the original format and WOW do we have some personalities to stick in that house. Imagine, a Toronto Mapleleafs diehard fan put in with a Montreal Canadiens fan! Wonder how long til the fights would start LOL. A Cape Bretoner, a Newfie, etc HEY, we have ten provinces and a couple of territories....ONE from each locale! This show could be informative about different cultures AND be a huge hit in the USA as well ! Of course, being primarily an INTERNET show there is no law about singing or humming songs. I really dont know what AS is giving us FOTH each time...the only time you'd have to pay royalties is if you put the singing on TV (which was done on BB1 very often) HECK, the HG from BB1 even sang during the LIVE SHOWS remember?? That was the problem. |
Bananaclip | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 03:36 pm     Lurker here, just had to butt in. BB1 had some great moments that made laugh so hard. I remember Karen mooning the cameras and she only had a thong on. Karen's hubby stiffly reading the poem he wrote for her. Jamie and her lipgloss. Jordan showing off her dancing/stripper moves. Mega giving Eddie the massage, Eddie's reaction. |
Lakegal | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 03:43 pm     Reading this reminds me of the chicken cam from the first season. They had their own garden and they made their own wine. I loved the all-night challenges with the dancing and bike riding. At least someone was always awake to watch on the cams and different people dancing together gave us different convos. Remember Jamie hiding to put her lip gloss on? I was not the huge fan of Curtis that others were - I always thought it would have been more interesting if Mega and Jordan had stayed in the house longer. I loved the second season. Will and Nicole were never boring and they were the final 2. And I loved the banners. If the public can't vote, they should at least have an input. Let the HG wonder what we think of them... This season gets more boring all the time. We need a couple twists to shake this up. |
Bananaclip | Monday, August 04, 2003 - 03:52 pm     Lakegal, ITA with everything you said. I was disappointed when Mega and Jordan were booted. I thought they would have contributed to some funny moments. I also loved the second season best! |
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