Will there be POV this week?
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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Will there be POV this week?

Rob_Robe

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 07:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i heard that last year around this time... there was no POV??? i hope this is truth ... BYE BYE Alison

Maryk

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 07:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
How come there is POV this week? What happens if Robert puts up Ali and Jun. Erika wins POV and lets say just for the sake of discussions takes Jun off. Who would Robert replace the nominations with? He can't put Erika because she is the POV holder. I'm confused, they didn't have POV last year when it was the final 4???

Rob_Robe

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 07:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank You MaryK for conforming this ... but we shall see...

Crossfire

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 07:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
With Erika being the only voter in that scenario, it does not matter if she uses the POV or not, she controls who gets evicted with her single vote.

It is still important to Erika though as it prevents someone else from using it, resulting in her nomination.

Cliotheleo

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 08:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
AHHHHH! Y'all are driving me crazy!!!! :)

Here's what I wrote last night in another thread concerning this.........

the likely thing is that Ali and Jun will be nominated.

If either of them win veto, they take themselves off and Erika goes in their place.

If Erika wins she makes SURE she stays safe by keeping the power of veto AWAY from Ali and Jun

If Robert wins he either insures his nominations, or uses the veto to put Erika on the block by saving one of the other two (incidentally I don't think that will happen)

It all seems pretty basic to me.

Crossfire

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 08:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
So how am I driving you crazy? That's more or less (more) what I said. :)

Cliotheleo

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 08:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL! I don't think your post was up there before I started working on mine Cross. You're NOT driving me crazy.

Rob_Robe

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 08:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
but that is not the question... the question really is ... i mean, how do we know there is POV? just because THEY think there is one, means there is one... i mean why do people think there is gonna be a POV this week?

Cliotheleo

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 08:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, I'm sorry. I just saw a remote reference to the question that's driving me crazy and I wigged out. :)

BB annouced to the HGs that there WOULD be a veto this week. Lemme go find it in the LFs for ya.............

Cliotheleo

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 08:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Here, check this out.........

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Crossfire

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 08:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hehehe. No problem Clio, I was just being mischievous. :)

Rob_Robe

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 08:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Clio :) appreciate it ... clears that up

Cliotheleo

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 08:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Just call me Clearasil!

Crazydog

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 08:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
People keep talking about going crazy. Here I am!

Anneph

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 09:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Last year there was a POV when there was only 4 - Lisa, Dani, Jason and Marcellus. Lisa and Marcellus were up - Marcellus won the POV and decided not to use it getting him evicted and leaving Lisa, Dani and Jason to battle out the final 3. I think Dani had HOH so Jason was the only one voting and he said to Marcellus "You should have used the veto"

Lyn

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 09:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
There was five hamsters that week, Anneph - Jason was HOH, Amy and Marcellus were on the block, Lisa and Dani were the voters

Ladytex

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 09:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That is not true. Marcellas did not use the golden veto when there were 5 left and he was on the block with Amy. Jason had the tie breaking vote that round.

Anneph

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 09:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I stand corrected...sorry for the wrong info.

Bomom

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 10:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Do we know when they will do nominations and when they will have the Veto ceremony yet?

Spear

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 01:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So Clio and Crossfire, are you saying that in Maryk's scenario (Erika wins POV and chooses to use it on Jun), there is no replacement and Alison is automatically evicted? That the veto ceremony effectively becomes the eviction vote? Or that if Erika wins the POV, there is no veto ceremony? Either way, it sounds a little weird to me. If there really is a veto this week, I'd think there would be some new twist to handle this scenario (eg. HOH can choose an evicted houseguest as a replacement)

Crossfire

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 01:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know how they plan to handle that should we have to cross that bridge, they may just skip it as Roberts hands would be tied, and she would have total control of the eviction at that point with everyone but HOH on the block.

We will just have to wait and see I guess.

Charvie

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 03:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I know this isn't a popular thought because of the live feed. But I am starting to think there isn't going to be a veto this week. First if you continue reading on the live feed, it seems the announcer backtracked about the veto. Than Alison says to Erika today I wonder if there is going to be a veto. And Robert told Erika later today that they told him in the DR that it's cute to see Erika and Robert together in the F2.

I think the veto was in the case that Robert got put up with Erika. Shapiro appears to be treating this BB as a reality sitcom and not a game for 500,000 dollars. So given that he'd want it to be Erika and Robert in the F2. If Jee had stayed he'd try to make it a Jun vs Jee in the F2.

This is the Ex-Factor show, ratings are up and I think he wouldn't all out cheat, but he would support an ex couple in the finals.

Jdel

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 03:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
there is a veto this week and ali has vowed to win it. as erika explained it to ali it wouldn't be fair to jun since she couldn't compete for HOH - so they need to give her a chance to save herself if she's on the block.

the power is in the veto this week.

Cinder

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 04:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It would make ABSOLUTELY no sense for the woman not nominated to use the POV. There is no reason to remove or protect a nominee. The woman not nominated is the ONLY ONE who decides who will be evicted- so why go through the trouble of using the POV. However, it that woman-or Rob do not have the POV- that woman will be nominated- and possibly evicted.

R151996

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 04:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The veto holder goes on the block if that player was not originally nominated but removes a player already on the block. That would be stupid, so it won't happen.

Nomination ceremony soon. Robert is in HOH ready to put the one key in the box.

Charvie

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 04:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
In the case of not fair to Jun because she was HOH last week, that has been the case the entire game. The hoh has just as much chance of being voted out the next week and nominated...ie Justin and Dana. The veto was just to make the game interesting but not completely upsurp the HOH power, which it would do if they had a veto competion in the final four. Another thing say the one not nominated did decide to use the veto, there would be no chance for the other person left on the block a chance to campaign to save herself.
I don't doubt Shapiro may do it, I just think it's more likely he'd change his mind.

Jdel

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 04:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
veto is more powerful that HOH this week depending on who gets it.

if your not on the block or are Rob (HOH) and get the veto it won't get used.

If you are on the block and you get the veto you get yourself off and become the voter to decide which of the other two girls goes.

They were told this is the last veto of the game. everyone can compete for HOH from now on.

Spunky

Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 05:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So, we had nominations and they should at least be talking about when the POV comp is going to be.. I thought it was right after nominations, or else tomorrow as usual. Still no talk of what kind of competition it's going to be.