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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: What did Erica whisper to Jack on his way out the door?: Archive through August 28, 2003

Sherbabe

Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 08:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Did any hear what she said to him? Maybe someone taped this episode and can try to listen to what she told him.

Hamsterlady

Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 08:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She said, "Jee threatened Allison and that's why she voted to keep me."

Took me a couple of rewinds and whatever but that's what she said. Glad you asked that because I was wondering myself.

Rainwoman

Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 08:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Erika whispered to Jack that they (robert and jee) threatened Alison about her vote, and that's why she voted that way.

Tobor7

Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 08:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought she said "Allison was the one vote for you to stay." I better go back and listen to it again.

Mlt

Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 09:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I heard the same thing you heard, Hamsterlady.

Csnog

Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 09:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I heard her say the word "Threaten"

Maris

Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 09:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well,if I was Jack I would be wondering why did she need to whisper it to me at that point when she could have told me before the live show that I was going. All Erika did was let Jack know she knew what was going to go down and she never told him. She should have kept her mouth shut.

Csnog

Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 09:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
But Maris, she knows that Jack feels bad about not winning the HOH. She knows that Jack will be at the jury house and speaking good things about her if she is in the final 2.

And

She did tell him that she would whisper something to him when they walked to the door just today.

Jack will do everything to see that Erika is voted the winner while in the jury house if she is in the final 2.

Closetfan

Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 09:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
But the vote was 'live' so no one knew 'for sure' what was going to happen. I hope Jack takes what Erika says well. I think both of them were honest in the DR when they said they were not campaigning against the other but FOR themselves...from what I've seen...they were true to that.

R151996

Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 09:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think once Jack analyzes the eviction vote he will respect how Ali voted--and even more so knowing that Ali didn't cave in to the Stooges. That could help Ali in an Ali-Jun final if Ali doesn't backstab Erika.

Kc103

Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 09:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought Erika said something like, "Ali knew you were out to get her. (or maybe "a threat to her") That's why she wanted you gone." I'll have to listen to my tape tomorrow! A bit sleepy...my memory's fading!

Cameltoes

Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 09:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
After just watching, she did indeed say "Robert and Jee threatened Ali and that's why she voted for me to stay".

R151996

Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 10:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I listened to it on headphones and got this clearly--"They threatened Alison. That's why she voted to keep me."

Vskatefan

Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 10:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Why would Erika say this? What was the point? It is half a lie to start with. Ali may have been "threatened" by Jee and/or Robert, but Ali was going to vote Jack off no matter what, no matter what Jee/Robert said. This brought Erika down a little in my book. She could have at least had a little loyalty to Jack. But instead she goes completely with Ali, and this will be her downfall unfortunately.

Riviere

Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 10:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Glad Erika got the message to Jack! Now he can sit in Sequester House and think what morons Jee and Robert were not to ally with him, thinking they had Ali's vote in their pocket. Jee should have taken Jack off and nominated Ali. Robert's paranoia about Erika being the strong player did a lot of good for them this week! Now the gals have the power and Erika merely conveyed to Jack in her final message Jun and Ali opted to save her as their smartest strategy, which it was.. That's what the 2 stooges got for thinking for themselves and making emotional decisions. :)

Kalekona

Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 11:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Why would Erika say this?
That's easy to keep Jacks vote.. she's afraid if he knows she was part of the deal and allience to get him out she would loose his vote at the end. So her out is to blame Jee and Robert assuring they don't get his vote if they make it to the end.

Gina8642

Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 11:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think part of the problem here is Jack doesn't really know which way they threatened Ali. That is he doesn't know if she sucumbed to their threats or not. Jack has to wonder:

Did Ali sucumb to the threats and therefor vote for Erika to stay.

or

Was Ali so offended by the threat, she decided not follow and voted for Erika to stay.


We know that neither is really true. But I think it was the second meaning that Erika was trying to impart, but Jack doesn't understand enough of what was happening this week to understand that. At the end, I don't think this really accomplished much. I guess Jack will know JeeBert resorted to threats, but I'm not sure that would really change his final vote anyway.

Chy

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 12:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Pretty brave for Ali to come through. She voted Jack off despite threats.

I also thought Erika said something else, thanks for all the comfirmations. I can't see her point either. She should have known how dense Jack is about the game by now.

Spear

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 01:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Whatever her intentions, it looks like it wasn't a spur-of-the-moment decision. From the LFP by Seamonkey at 4:55PM:


Quote:

Suddenly feeds back, not sure if I noticed right away but after getting sound back.. it seemed that Erika and Jack were whispering in the living room and she said later she'd tell him all the really BAD things that went on this week.. he of course wanted to know something now but she said she couldn't.. said she'd tell him on her way out the door.


Riviere

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 01:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Agree, Jack made a super dense mistake asking if Jee would replace Erika with Ali. He didn't see her ex Robert would never go for that? What if Jack did the smart thing and said, Jee, take me off, put Ali up, it's our last chance to get Ali out.. Remember, Jack & Erika hardly spoke this week, both campaigning for gender alliances. So Erika got hers, but Jack went to Team Stooge who basically said no. They lost the guy who would have done them a favor, to keep the floater Ali's vote which backfired, and now here they are. The only thing they accomplished was splitting up an old original J & E alliance.. Jack's vote will surely reflect he was evicted because of a J & R choice while Erika only did what she had to for game survival..

Spear

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 01:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Err ... here's a more direct quote from the same time:


Quote:

Erika whispers to Ali that she is going to tell Jack as he walks out, that Jee and Robert threatened Ali.


Vskatefan

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 05:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Methinks Ali was trying to "save face" with Jack(meaning trying to snare his vote should she be in the final 2) and Erika went along. I think Erika trusts Ali way too much.

Rainwoman

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 06:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
exact quote: Erika whispers, "They threatened Alison, that's why she voted to keep me".

Monkhead

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 06:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with you EXACTLY Vskatefan and Kalekona!!!
(couldn't have said it better myself!)

Imz

Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 08:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey Jack, your out 500k because little Ali felt threatened by the boys. Feel better now?