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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Jack is going to sacrifice himself for Erika.....: Archive through August 20, 2003

Wendo

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL, well, I guess we'll know for sure when Jee does nominations tomorrow.

Jiggly, as far as Rob and Jee putting up Ali and Erika, I didn't hear that. However, I'm now on the living room feed with the women playing cards.

But, I doubt they said anything since Jack's out there.

I can't speak for what people at Joker's have heard, however, I NEVER heard Jee and Robert agree to put Ali up initially. They said Jack and Erika with Erika as the target.

Jigglywigglyjun

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo , I heard the same thing you did... I guess those PPL posting for Jokers are sleep typing... LOL

C1mag

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm gonna have to side with Jokers. I heard say at first it would be Erika and Ali and that came out of Jee. He wants that so bad but when Rob shot it down he folded for his twitching bud who thinks this hoh is his victory as well.

C1mag

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The funny thing is that the same thing that happened on week 2 when Jee was hoh is about to happen again. They won't get what they want.

Cliotheleo

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
After ALL Jee's done for them! He's laid himself on the line and this is the thanks he gets!!!! :)

C1mag

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ahahahahahaha! get ready to hear that more than once this next week. It's gonna be a loooong journey.

Tobor7

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think they should bring in that dude from For Love or Money! (Rob) LOL

Cliotheleo

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
NO!!!!! I can take Jun's whispering but NOT Rob's mumbeling......... "yaknowijusreallylikeyouandi'mnotafterthemoneyijustwanngetyoubackandall."

C1mag

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh Rob, rob, rob... he thinks he's gonna play Ali. Hahahahahahahahahahaha! he is actually gonna end up playing her game. He says that he knows how to work her. Just play on her emotions in regard to Justin. Oh she will love the drama and stab him in the back. She isn't gonna play the game for him. What a fool. This is the mirror of when Jee was hoh on the second week. These two inept players are about to get screwed and next week this team is going down to one.

Unbiased

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wouldn't believe Rob's claim (of wanting Erika gone) for a second.
If you look at the big picture, Rob's best bet right now is to secretly allign with Erika. I would not be surprised at all if Rob's alliegance to Jee is somewhat fake at this point. Secret and unlikely alliances have proven unstoppable in this game... Ali and Jun said it best (although I'm not saying theirs will last... a prime example would have been be Danielle and Jason). PUBLIC alliances basically can't make it past this point in the game without being split up, and I think it's pretty clear that Ali wants Jack out first. She and Rob are sufficient safety for Erika in the event of a J/E nomination. This is assuming the worst of course... I don't even need to mention who would stay in the event of a E/A nomination, provided that this R/E theory is correct. The truth is, this did cross my mind before tonight's show, and tonight they showed a clip of Rob and Erika discussing this exactly. Rob keeps Erika over Jack, and Erika keeps Rob over Jee. Unless someone finds out, then who on earth would think to nominate Rob and Erika together?? It only works in secret, so OF COURSE Rob will tell Jee that he wants Erika out first. Jee doesn't even get to vote anyway, so Rob saying he wants Erika gone is completely harmless, and has no relevance to what he is actually going to do, it merely keeps Jee thinking they're still allies. (I mean what's Jee gonna do, put up Rob too?) If Erika goes up, it doesn't matter who else goes up, with Rob's help, she is completely in the clear. As for the veto, there's already at least other two people further up on Jee's hit list (than Rob) who could be potential nominees opposite Erika. Basically, all said and done, a secret Rob/Erika alliance is certainly a must for both of them at this stage.

Wendo

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well C1mag, I never heard it. But I'm working at my computer so, who knows. I think it's something they would show on Sat. show though, how Jee came to his nominations. So, we're likely to know for sure.

Oh, I'm sure we'll hear that line Clio! LOL!

Rob's thinking like Nate thought, She'll listen to me. Yah right! LOL!

Although, Rob could win HOH next week....of course, he hasn't made much of a showing so far in HOH's. LOL!

Cliotheleo

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, if you can figure a way for them to secretly ally then send the boy a banner or something explaining it. Rob and Erika haven't even allied yet and everyone else is starting to get suspicious.

C1mag

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've been wondering if Rob has been using Jee. I mean we all sit night after night wondering if Jee is really this stupid to buy all the garbage Rob slops out to him. This will be the second time that Rob told Jee who to nominate and it will be the second time that they will not get what they want at the end of the week. It's seems odd to hear a 33 year old man pumping up a 23 year old kid telling him he looks awesome and all this "dreamteam" garbage is strange. Like I said... Rob is toast after this next eviction. I can smell it and it's getting stinkier which means the buzzards are circling and they will be landing on him next week.

Unbiased

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1, that's exactly what i'm saying... he's completely toast without Erika, and Erika is certainly toast if she doesn't pick up someone else trustworthy to help her safely cut the cord with Jack when the time comes.

Jigglywigglyjun

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1, EXACLY.. I thought Jee was smarter then that... It seems he is Robert's puppet.. Geez I hope Jee doesn't listen to him...

C1mag

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jig Jee said to Justin last week that he knows that Rob is just coasting and using them. Thats why he wanted Justin to stay.

Unbiased

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You're right clio, they are suspicious, however, I would say the most suspicious ones are the girls, and if they're 'floating/go with the flow' strategy continues, I don't suspect they will be pushing for a nomination as bold and as 'against the flow' as an R/E nomination would be. However, there is a chance that all this could go puclic, and this could totally flip the game sideways -- R/E vs the girls, instead of J/E verses 2 stooges, leaving Jack and Jee to be ditched. However, i wouldn't rule out another form of flip -- R/E vs J/J... it all revolves around who can keep their cards close for how long... Jun is a major wildcard though, still, as she is in two different secret alliances.

Jigglywigglyjun

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I would give all props to Jee if he had the guts to nominate Rob and Ali... now THAT would be good tv!!!!!

C1mag

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well if no one has noticed yet Ali has already told Erika what they plan on doing to her and that she is the target. Now Erika knows she can never trust Robert in this game again which is a good thing.

Cliotheleo

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, this is true about Jun. Last night during his "plea" at the POV meeting, Justin made the big deal about "recently you [Jun] have changed sides......." and I was thinking "which side change is she referring to?"

Jigglywigglyjun

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1 i thought i heard the end of it when the camera turned to them.. the only thing i heard was Ali tell Erika " do not worry i will get the veto".... So I think Ali somewhat does have Erikas back...

Jigglywigglyjun

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OK who has the goodie snack bag.. My babies are kicken! LOL

Seanflynn2003

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Jee nominates Rob he deserves to win the $500,000.
It is the one piece of backstabbing that would get credit.
Put up Allison at the same time, now that's a show I want to watch.

Tabbyking

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
the only way robert could win a HOH is if he picked it out of his nose.
it would be great if jee nominated robert, but i don't see it. he still lets robert handle food for him. big ick! a jee/ali or jee/jun nomination would be very exciting. i might even open both eyes to watch that show!

Unbiased

Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think if it came down to who Ali WANTS to stay, it would definately be Erika and not Jack... BUT then again, she wanted Justin to stay and voted him out, so it looks like she may be going with the flow regardless.