C1mag | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 04:57 pm     Here's my thing... In the end Erika knows that one of the guys has to go this week in order to get some even play back in the game. Will Justin go? Will Rob go? Will Jee go? I think at this point you just wait for the veto and then see what could happen. If Jee gets the veto and takes one of the guys off then she has to decide which girl would go. Does she hand them Jun and let Ali continue to play her game or NAIL Ali now. |
Cameltoes | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 04:59 pm     I don't even know where to post this but the most interesting part was the Jun apparently told the guys that she has switched sides and is with Jack/Erika. Erika acted surprised and told him that they would definitely take Jun on their side but they never had any kind of actual verbal agreement. Justin told all this to Jee and Robert. I wish I knew when this conversation with Jun and the guys took place. The feeds missed alot today. |
Cameltoes | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 05:00 pm     C1 - Ali is a huge pain in the azz right now. Frist I assumed they would just put Jun up but if Jun really did break ties with the guys like that, Ali should be up. If she goes, she goes. |
C1mag | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 05:03 pm     I agree that Ali is hard to catch in this game. She's all over the place and you want to get her out so bad but the idea of keeping all three guys in the game is so dangerous to you. You could make a deal to keep yourself from there for next week but don't literally hand them another stay of execution. |
Jigglywigglyjun | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 05:06 pm     Ali just told the stooges that if she gets veto, she WILL take one of them out! OMG I cant believe this <el> |
Cameltoes | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 05:08 pm     I just meant if Jee used the veto, they would have to put her up and then Jun would be the deciding vote. I would be surprised if Ali gets the veto. She will just try to help Justin or Jee get it and try to prevent Jack and Erika from getting it. |
C1mag | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 05:10 pm     Jig I think she is lying to them. Jee would go up in that persons place so she is telling Jee you would be on the block. Like that works well. She's all talk. She has no plans of winning. She wants them all to think she is going for it and then she will have them back off and she will hand it to Jusin. She won't benefit from this move AT ALL! Three people will mark her and possibly four. Robert would be booted and Jun, Erika, Jack and Jee will know her game. Big deal she has Justin on her side. The numbers to work for her to avoid being a target this way. She's all talk. She told Nate the same thing and didn't try for it. |
C1mag | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 05:13 pm     Camel I agree that Ali would be put up if Jee gets it and uses it. I would LAUGH if that happened cause Ali might as well start packing if that happened. I look at Ali's game this way. She is either gonna crash and burn with all these lies or she will be taken to the finals and for 50k she will be torn a new one when they all tell her off at the end. |
Jigglywigglyjun | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 05:16 pm     Did anybody catch jee and juns short conversation in the bathroom area a few min ago? I missed it |
C1mag | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 05:16 pm     I do have to say that alison has played the most dangerous game in this contest. NO ONE is safe from her lies and she does it right to their faces. I don't even think Justin is safe from her as she has suggested to him. If him staying didn't benefit her she'd let him go in a second but keep telling him he was safe. I've never seen someone play this all for themselves so early on with no loyalty to anyone and if the game continues the way she wants she's gonna get 50k for it because real soon here they are all gonna figure she is the one to take to the finals and easily win the larger amount of money. |
Cameltoes | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 05:19 pm     Sorry, I missed it Jig. Their conversations are annoying because they only last about 5 seconds. Earlier today, Jun told Jee that she was looking out for him as much as she could and he's not the next target with Jack/Erika. |
Amy | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 05:20 pm     But that could backfire too if they look at it in the big picture of the game. They could decide that even though they hate her personally that she played a good game by playing them all. |
Jigglywigglyjun | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 05:25 pm     Yeah Camel the camera went to them too late, I caught the end of it and all I heard was justin and roberts name... dammit! |
Foreverfan | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 05:39 pm     I hate to think that there is a possibility of the three J3s staying. If Justin and Robert are nominated, Jee can win the veto to save Justin. Erika will probably put Jun up but the votes are there to save Robert and they will still be there. So we wouldn't get rid of the J3s. RATS!!!! |
C1mag | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 05:47 pm     If they are forced to put a female up with Jee using the veto then by the time the veto ceremony comes around I hope they realize that Ali is the better choice to put up and be evicted. You can control Jun. There is no way you can control Ali. |
C1mag | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 05:49 pm     OH and don't forget that Jee is smart enough to figure if he keeps playing with these guys and goes to final 3 they will never let him near the finals. It's best for him to lose one of them now. Erika and Jack will keep him safe next week. He knows all of this. |
Cameltoes | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 05:51 pm     I hope he does but he keeps acting like he needs Justin and Robert's permission to play for himself. |
C1mag | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 05:59 pm     I think Jee trys to figure out how to get around it and it wears on his face. So already his is saying he doesn't feel good today so that when the comp comes just like not feeling good in the cage he can use that as an excuse. Both guys have said they understand and hope he doesn't get it so we shall see. Plus does he really want to be the one that would get Jun evicted if Jun went up. She's talk him to not using the veto out of fear and of coarse Ali would be saying don't use it either cause she would be scared she would go up so if anything the two females would beg him not to use it. All his Anti Jun talk is nothing but fluff. He won't go for the Veto. It willl be too much preassure he is just thinking of his excuse why he didn't go for it. There are 4 people who will be trying for that veto today. Erika, Jack, Ali and Justin. Jee reminded Ali that they can't even target Erika and Jack to lose if it's a game to eliminate people because they will clearly see it happening and they don't want to do that. The only way is to let someone else win the game and I believe this is Alis goal. If Ali did get the Veto and does take Justin off after repeatedly swearing she wouldn't do that it would be the coldest move. She would literally be FORCING justin to play with her to the end and of coarse be spitting on Erika and Jack. If it were just one person she was screwing over I could see her doing it but two people at once I don't know. She'd have a lot of targets on her back. |
Stro27 | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 05:59 pm     Jack and Erika really don't hold much power next week unless Jack wins HoH. Odds aren't in his favor. He hasn't been a very performer in competitions and Erika won't be allowed to participate. Likely scenario is one of the other four players will win it and Jack and Erika will be targetted. |
Cameltoes | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 06:04 pm     It'll be interesting to see how this POV challenge plays out. I have to agree about Ali burning too many bridges if she were to use the veto. She may not have to try too hard to get Justin the veto because I think BB wants that anyway. Based on Ali's actions and what she said in the DR, it seems like her goal was to get the final 3 with Erika and Justin assuming they will both take her along. She wants Jack gone because Erika is too loyal to him. I noticed she backed off on wanting Jun out when Justin pointed out that they might want to keep her around if so many people are saying they wouldn't vote for her in the end. |
C1mag | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 06:10 pm     I think the show will favor Justin to win this pov as well. The cameras are constantly on him. I honestly don't see him going next week. Said it the second Erika got hoh. Ali is literally gonna force Justin to play the game with her after this. |
C1mag | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 06:18 pm     Interesting that Erika and Jun were whispering and again Jun said... that Justin has to go now. I know how she thinks. This is her chance to get Jee to herself for their alliance. Keeping Justin gives ali waaaaay too much power. No way will she be talked into saving Justin. There is no offer that benefits her. Next week Jee won't nominate her. Rob can't win nothin unless it's handed to him and she knows Jacks next target is Robert. Keep Justin and Ali and all of a sudden you know there is a lying woman who will stab you in the back. The same woman that already nominated you once and you watched her screw over her strongest aliance. Jun doesn't benefit at all with Justin still in the game. It makes it much harder for her to survive. |
Puzzled | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 06:21 pm     If one of J3 goes, and J2 and J-E teamed up, they could get rid of these two pesky women and then duke it out. At least both pairs have shown that when they make an alliance, they stick to it. |
Misslibra | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 06:21 pm     Veto comp is in two hours wonder if it's the one with the laser lights ? C1mag, your right now that I think about it Jun would want Justin out since she knows Justin has alliance with Ali. Now we just have to see who will get the veto. |
Misslibra | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 06:24 pm     C1mag, if it's the laser light veto comp they had last year where Lisa walked through the lights instead of over them, Ali or Erika could win the veto. |
Cameltoes | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 06:30 pm     Recycling two old challenges in one week? Very lame but I would not be surprised. It would be an easy one to throw. However, they wouldn't know how everyone did until the very end. |
C1mag | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 06:34 pm     Actually I don't think Jack and Erika thought this nomination out very well. They should have pulled and Alison and Nominated Justin and Ali and said to Justin of coarse he is the target because he has always been their primary target and then turn to Ali and say no offense but this was just a strategic move that ensures that if you get the veto you won't be tempted to save him. The other two guys not nominated wouldn't go for the veto cause the other one would have been put up. The following week if Ali felt like getting revenge and getting out Jack or Erika there is nothing written in stone that she would actually win it cause anything can happen and remind her that after she is hoh the next week she is not and therefore might be vulnerable so play her cards very carefully from there on out when getting revenge. You'd force her to play your game for a bit. This is how they should have done this nomination if they wanted Justin out this bad. He'd have to win the veto on his own with no help at all and you could have gotten away with it by giving Ali some medicine of her own. This way there is a chance Ali is gonna pull something and come out saying... "i know I said I wouldn't use it but this benefits me and since I have the veto it's my move. Trust me if he gets hoh you are safe" |
Cameltoes | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 06:40 pm     That would have neutralized Ali but it would have also shown all of their cards to her. Also, Ali is really a problem for Jack moreso than Erika. I don't think it would have been wise for Erika to be the one to put her up and burn that bridge. Ali wants Erika in the game. Now if Jack had won HOH, it might have been worth the gamble but I don't think it would have helped Erika. |
Misslibra | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 06:55 pm     Yea Ali is getting on Jack's last nerves I believe but Erika has more patience I should say with her. |
Timewaster | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 07:09 pm     What555456 said: "I cannot imagine Ali's boy friend is going to be waiting for her when she is out (unless, of course, she has $500,000 and he wants to enjoy it for a while. If she has it, then he'll wait to dump her)." Ali; new winner of $500,000: "Boyfriend? WHAT boyfriend?" |
Timewaster | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 07:17 pm     Question for you live feed types.... Now that Erika is HOH, is Alison attempting to cooze up to her as well, give her back rubs and tell bedtime stories? Don't throw things, I'm not making fun, the question is legitimate. It is, after all Ali we're talking about. |
Jag2000 | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 08:32 pm     Time..I heard Allison asking Jack & Ericka if she could do some laundry for them while she was doing hers. Ericka gets her's done as HOH but there was Allie kissing butt. |
Charvie | Friday, August 15, 2003 - 09:43 pm     Putting up Ali with Justin would be an emotional move and gaurantee the saftey of the Jee3. Nope as much as I want Alison to take a flying leap,Justin or Robert must go and than send ALi packing after them. |
Happycamper | Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 02:57 pm     Who is voting for Justin to leave? I think Jack will for sure, but not too sure about the others. I heard Jee say to Justin a few days ago that he would vote save Justin. Ali in the past has told Justin she would never nominate him or vote him out. Not sure how Jun would vote. |