Meggieprice | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 05:05 pm     It is interesting really- having POV before nominations has given Jun the power to take Ali's power away- a new angle on POV. Meanwhile- I really want to scream hearing Jee's voice droning on and on, complimenting her, going on and on and on.... my husband thinks he should be voted out just for his voice. |
C1mag | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 05:06 pm     Actually Spunky don't you think it's the best move for Jun. That way Ali can't be tempted to make a deal or two? I mean if we all think about it if Ali had this hoh there is no telling what she might do when someone like rob is saying... we will get Jun out for you. I will personally take you to the end so will Jee. We all know you are a safe bet to win it all against so of coarse we will take you. Ali would be up for ANY deals and have no problem stringing Erika and Jun along. This way Jun keeps it real. Makes sure that the guys are deflated. Jee goes on schedule. The big question is next week. If Ali gets the next hoh all bets are off and Ali will be wondering who could she beat in the finals and who she couldn't. |
Bonzacat | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 05:10 pm     Hey Meggie, smart thought you had about POV before noms. It also just dawned on me after reading your post that it can change the HOH nomination choice strategy, a la Jun knowing Ali would use it on herself. This also must make A.S. happy knowing there's a much greater chance it might be used as opposed to almost never being used... depending on the nominated HG, of course. |
Spear | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 05:34 pm     Having POV before nominations effectively turns the POV into immunity (ala Survivor). The HOH can nominate any other two players and make sure that the nominations will stick (eg. as Jun is planning -- by nominating the POV holder first). I'm not sure I'd want this to be a permanent BB feature. (Maybe only on weeks where I don't like the nominees. :-) |
Cameltoes | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 05:49 pm     Good points Meggie and Spear. It effectively takes us back to the pre-Veto, BB2 rules since the HOH can secure their nominations easily. You can bet that Dana would have thrown Nathan up against Ali if she knew that he had the POV before she nominated. |
Gvandeli | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 05:58 pm     Are nominations tonight? When is Veto? I am really confused. |
Cameltoes | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 06:03 pm     Nominations are on Sunday and the POV ceremony is on Monday. |
Spunky | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 06:09 pm     C1mag.. I opened a thread suggesting exactly this when Jun was still on the plane flying back to LA. She was thinking about it on the plane as well... my psychic powers are just too strong!! |
Sheilaree | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 06:13 pm     Robert needs to go. Some women must have done a number on him because he hates women, I hope he goes next. Please Jun get rid Robert fast |
Faerygdds | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 06:28 pm     Here's a twist to make you hyperventilate... Jun nominates Ali and ROb as planned... THEN she goes to Jee and says, "I'll put up Erika and the vote will be split... I'll vote to evict Erika" (knowing that Erika doesn't trust her anyway and probably won't give her the vote in the end) "BUT..." she tells Jee, "If you get HoH next week, you have to prove to me that you are with me til the end, so YOU'LL have to get rid of Robert". If Jee agrees, then she will turn the tides in her favor over Jee in the end as RObert won't help but blab to the "Dream Team" in sequestration (Justin and Dana) that Jee backstabbed him. That gives her a good shot in the finals with him... Jee vs. Jun with this scenario: Dana - Jun Nathan - Who knows... will probably respect Jun's gameplay over Jee AND he never really liked Jee from the start Justin - Jun (Jee backstabbed Robert) Jack - Will respect gameplay I think - Jun Erika - Jee (Jun backstabbed her all girls alliance) Robert - I think he will vote for Jee even though he backstabbed him, but he will have effectively changed "other" minds Ali - Jun all the way Jun wins 5 to 2 Wonder if SHE'S thought of this yet??? |
Kalihiwahine | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 06:31 pm     Yeah!!! Spunky.... read your post on another thread... your prediction at 11:54am came true.... keep up w/ the psychic powers and keep us all posted... |
Tobor7 | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 06:32 pm     That's a good one F, but you gotta see what C1 says. He's the Master of Disaster. |
Meggieprice | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 06:36 pm     Now Robert says "I never thought we would be the last two guys"...hmmm, if I remember he was sure every time one of the stooges got HOH that they would be the last three in the house. |
Faerygdds | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 06:41 pm     I'm waiting. She doens't even have to put it that way... At this point she could even just tell him to promise not to put her up next week. It could still go awry, but the way I see it Erika is the only person left in the game that Jun could lose to in the end. I think she could honestly beat everyone else. The only thing that could really mess her up next week is if Robert is the only one voting. So do we know if there will be POV next week??? Do they??? And when do they start the "outgoing HoH can compete for new HoH" thing... final 4 or 3??? ok... now MY head is going to explode... |
Wgm | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 06:46 pm     I think that its going to be Erika and Alison in the final two. Here's what I think will happen: Justin's and Jun's vote will be nullified by Erika and Alison. Jack- Erika {because of their alliance} Dana- Erika {she doesn't like Alison} Nathan- Erika {Alison stabbed him in the back} Robert- Erika {because they had an alliance and because he still loves her} Jee- Alison {to end the Dream Team alliance} Jun- Erika {Allison voted Jee out} Erika wins 5-2 |
Chy | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 07:00 pm     Wgm, but how are you sure that it's going to be ERika & Ali for the final two? As to Fae...'s senerio, Even if Jee took the deal, he could turn around to evict Jun instead of breaking it with the Dream Team. At this point, he would do anything it takes. |
Jpgramma | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 07:54 pm     When I first heard of June's plan, I thought BRILLIANT!! YAYUS! I just tried catching up on this whole thread , but admit to only getting past the first few posts on the first page. I stopped when I got to yours C1mag, because I said, yup. That's it exactly. June knows what a drama queen and loose cannon Ali is. She's just solved that problem by taking that power away. I'm confident, yes, CONFIDENT, that Ali will remove herself and June will put up Gee to sit next to Robt on the block. Gee will leave. June knows that : 1. Gee is a far greater risk than Robt when it comes to the next HOH challenge and 2. She knows that her chances in the final vote are better with any of the others than with Gee. yup..brilliant move. big kudos to June. |
Puzzled | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 08:12 pm     It seems to me that having the HOH know who wins the POV before nominations, that it's like having no POV at all. All the HOH has to do is nominate the person with the POV, who will use it to eliminate themselves and then the HOH can nominate the person he/she was going to nominate in the first place. |
C1mag | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 08:12 pm     Why would she rely on Jee to get rid of Rob if she can do it now herself if thats who she wants out? Besides, lies to Ali this week and she may turn on her the following week. Trust me.. She would NEVER keep both guys in after this week. No matter how outrageous the scenario. Jee will be out because the two remaining girls will suspect an alliance for sure between her and Jee. Jee must go this week. |
C1mag | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 08:15 pm     Oh BTW its an interesting scenario though. I'm still proud of what Jun did to control this whole thing. Putting up ali forcing her to just save herself instead of making deals was BRILLIANT! |
Meggieprice | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 08:19 pm     I love it- Jun has told them everything the guys said- I was hoping she would. |
C1mag | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 08:21 pm     Meg this is so set. In fact she is now saying she is gonna nominate Jee with Ali just to prove to the girls that she has every intention of putting him up. Jee is DEFINITELY going. |
Kmjm | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 08:22 pm     I think it's great they way they have bonded- talking about the guys who lost on survivor because they got cocky and underestimated women. I've been waiting for the women on ANY reality show to act in solidarity, I think this is great. Well yeah, Ali might be lying, but it's still nice to hear, LOL. |
Bmh | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 08:33 pm     I'm gonna be pissed of Erika wins BB4...Jesus we don't need another Lisa winning this game although Erika is a much better player than Lisa was...But she still reminds me so much of Lisa The only person I really want to win this game at this point is Jun...Once she gets evicted..IF she does then its gonna suck |
Meggieprice | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 08:40 pm     C1- I really want you to be on this show! God I would love it if we were all rooting for you here...Wendo and I would take on all who dared to trash you! I have to admit I am absolutely loving hearing the women trash those guys because it is echoing what many of us think here- the women are so savvy, smart, right on about where the guys are coming from and I have been waiting for this. Watching Jeebert mope and then come in and kiss Jun's butt- "Oh no, you didn't look fat -you looked great"- and then hearing the women laughing and carry on- a real payoff for me. |