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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Erika's JA is BB1 Josh?: Archives: Archive through August 30, 2003

Happycamper

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 01:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't have any problem with the fact that Erika and Josh may have dated. Could you imagine if he was the one who showed up as her Ex?

As for the mystery who Robert is dating...I putting my vote on Nicole from BB2. LOL

Laluna

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 01:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Since BB1 and BB4 are so different I don't really see a conflict here. As far as Josh watching all the prior years and knowing how things played out, all of them had the opportunity to analyze previous years as well.

Now as far as Erika's age. So what? Sagginess - which I do not see - but even if so, what does that matter. The heart & connection of people involved is what matters not the appearance. I agree with Scorpio, basing on appearance alone is shallow.

One final thought. When it is an older guy and a younger woman people have a tendency to congratulate the older guy. When it is an older woman and a younger man, people question why. It is a shame that there are such ridiculous double standards in the world.

Wendo

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 02:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Beruthiel said, "I completely understand them (Josh and Erika) wanting to keep their private life private."

If that were the case, then he wouldn't have posted pictures of the two of them on the internet (though they've been removed now.)

As to Josh being a "journalist"; I have never thought of Josh as a journalist. However, when I read his summaries I did believe he was writing objectively. (And, if you read his summaries, it's apparent now that he purposefully wrote things to appear as though he did not know Erika.) Sure, he has a right to give his opinions on the show. IMO, all he had to do was disclose the fact that he knew her rather than purposefully try to hide it.

I like Josh, always have. And, if they are dating, great.

However, I find what he's done with his summaries just plain shady.

Smokey

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 02:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow! I have noticed nothing saggy on Erika and I say if she dates a younger guy, "GO FOR IT!" geeez. Shallow is right. Of course, I'm 48 and would love to have Erika's looks. I think she's super model material.

I also agree with what SanFran said about BB1 and 4 having nothing in common.

The only problems I could see coming from it is if somehow the sequestered jury got wind of Erika's connection to Josh and got suspicious of her being in the game, and voted against her. That would suck. Other than that, I think it's cool. Why do we seem to get more upset about an older woman/younger man relationship than vice versa? I can totally relate to be attracted to younger men. :)

Beruthiel

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 02:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I give you that, Wendo, he ought to have been up front re his possible bias, but I'm wondering how much BB's hand is at work in all this, especially as those photos seemed to have been there all along, and only just now got deleted.
I guess my take on this is that it may not be shady doings by Erika and Josh but more shady doings by BB, who as we know, are very shady all of the time!
I still wish them well, regardless, being an old romantic at heart. Whether I would feel the same if it were anyone other than these two, well, I plead the fifth!
{I have to go now, so if I don't continue the discussion, don't take it amiss, I just have to be elsewhere for a while}

Earthmother

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 02:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
IMO their relationship has nothing whatsoever to do with this game. Josh should not have to divulge any personal information about his relationship to anyone since it wouldn't make one iota of difference. Does BB or CBS pay him for his summeries? If they don't then they are done by him for no personal gain and he has the right to editoralize any way he chooses.

Battlestarz

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 03:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
umm--so what! she dates Josh---I think it is COOL!!!!

Does it give her an advantage?? Probably not--she is a she proclaimed internet junkie and knows the game from what she has learned on-line/ like you and me

Gina8642

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 03:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Survivor Amazon's Alex is friends with Survivor Africa's Lex (I don't believe close friends) . It seems like this knowlegde was out there by the time the show aired. It seems like MB et al was up front and honest about this relationship. (I do remember some posters complaining however.) How hard would it have been to disclose Erika's?

I do think it would have been to her disadvantage to have this known inside the house, but there isn't any reason why CBS couldn't have been public with the info outside the house.

hmmm.....

Sasman

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 04:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
--> here's the latest josh column

Mom2camandy

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 04:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There's an e-mail address for Josh at the bottom of the article. Do you think he'd tell us if we ask?

Spygirl

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 04:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Won't know till ya try :)

Juju2bigdog

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 04:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just got to this thread, and I am quite frankly appalled.

Just WHAT the SAMHILL is Weinermr's mother's butt doing in here????

Okay. Carry on. <waves to Misslibra>

Weinermr

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 04:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My thought exactly, Spy.

Go for it Mom2camandy. See what happens. (and let us know)

Weinermr

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 04:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Juju,

Of all the posts in this thread, that's the one that captured your attention! LOL

Earthmother

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 04:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I still don't know and I haven't gotten an answer..Is BB or CBS paying Josh for his column?

Juju2bigdog

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 04:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, Weinermr, I was laughing MY butt off at the saggy and wrinkled comments and was going to comment on those until your mother's butt came swinging into the picture, and I took a hit at that instead.

Weinermr

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 04:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well that explains it then. And I'm sure she'd appreciate knowing that one of her more indelicate body parts was being discussed on the internet. LOL

Squaredsc

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 05:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
would you rather we discuss yours instead?

Earthmother

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 05:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd rather discuss his!! Only if he doesn't mind of course!!

Earthmother

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 05:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry Weinermr I looked at your profile and changed my mind...I think there are laws against it...lol

Gouraphik

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 05:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Getting back to the point that Justshirley and others were trying to make earlier (see ../10972/1100619.html?1062271719), I think that gamewise the nepotism card (whether real or perceived) is an interesting gambit to play for those involved or in the know.

Just to let you know, I've got nothing against Josh or Erika, but this situation does affect the game, and could be used effectively by future BB contestants.

By getting friendly or intimate with a previous HG (of any version of Big Brother), you get to benefit from the experience they had in the house. Whether they won or failed, you get access to a type of knowledge that only previous participants are privy to.

Obviously, if any of your competitors knew about this, it would be turned into a weapon against you (people have been ostracized or vilified for less) and you'd have a tough time of it. However, if you make sure that you get your HG buddy to NOT sign the release form (tying BB's hands) and let BB browbeat any other HG's who might know about your special friend, you've effectively covered your tracks.

Conversely, if you did know about another HG's special relationship or friendship with a previous HG, I guess you'd have to be very sneaky and subtle about bringing it up. But it would be wise to use it as a weapon. After all, it is a game.

Zachsmom

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 05:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Earthmother LOL!!

All I can say it it would be fun to pinch those cheeks!

Weinermr

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 05:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP


Uhhh, which cheeks do you mean?

Earthmother

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 05:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I do agree that the information would be used against Erika by the jury or the other hgs if they knew about it. What I don't agree with is that someone is being called Shady because he (isn't on the show or being paid by anyone connected with the show)chooses not to divulge personal and private information. Josh does not owe any of us or anyone else this information. If you have a problem with his column now that you do know (or think you know) then don't read it.

Zachsmom

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 05:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
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