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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: 3 weeks later- has it gotten better??: Archive through July 29, 2003

Fabnsab

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 03:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Alot of us complained in the beginning of this seasons BB that it was boring and that we didn't care about the people. My first post told those to give it time, we always feel like this in the beginning. A week later, I found myself agreeing with those same people. Now three weeks later, I notice more and more people complaining about this BB. I am going to cancel my feeds. I can't watch the show where I am now. I read this board because of you guys mainly. I am lonely here in Germany and you guys keep me company- like old friends. I thought BB would do that for me. All the feeds do is upset me over the amount of hypocrisy and venom spewing.

This show has never been so divided before. It's like watching a bunch of desperate people. They can't even come together as a group without being phony. They stress me out. Someone can't even try to converse with the other side without people thinking they're trying to kiss up.

There's no need to watch the live show. We know Dave is going.

I am just depressed that something I love so much has disappointed me so much this year, especially when I needed the escape the most.

So, my question is, is this truly the worst BB ever now that we're three weeks into it?

Xarph

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 03:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes

Lostintheglades

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 04:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes

Catkey94

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 04:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This show is pretty bad this year. I cannot even stand to watch the live fees anymore due to all of the hate being spewed all over that house. I am really considereing cancelling my feed this year and calling it quits with this show. These people make me sick.

Naja

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 04:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have to admit that when I got the feeds for the first time this year, I thought I would be witnessing some fun stuff. And I knew there would be hours of boring stuff to wait thru to get to it. What I didn't know is that the show would have a Dana who makes me feel like I am watching a hate fest. Some little girl forgot that she is on a game show and it affected everyone in that house to the point that none of them can have any fun for us to enjoy-->(JMO). I can't wait until she leaves and the rest of them can loosen up and have a little fun. Her mouth and attitude have worn me out :( Yeah, it was funny at first, now it's just wearing on me, and I dread seeing her on a cam, and just shut the feeds off is she is on all 4 cams. But I still LUV my BB and will watch to the end. I will just avoid too much of the feeds until Dana is no longer HOH or she is gone :)

Jazzzy

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 05:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hello to you in Germany~

If or when Dave goes, I'm going to cancel my real player (unless Allie and Nate get HOH.) I've had real player since season 2, even in the off season, but its not worth it without Dave.
Dana voice range and what she says are driving me nutts !!
Dave and Jack are the 2 most liked house guests, according to the cbs page, and the live feed is all dana dana and jee.
I'm thinking of sending the money I save to tvclubhouse, instead.

Thedunit

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 05:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I cancelled my live feeds yesterday. First year that I got it and will be the last PROVIDING there is another year.

Secretsmile

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 05:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thedunit, please don't rule out getting the live feeds in future years based on this year. In the past, while there has been plenty of nastiness, it's never been this large a group, nor so soon in the game.

Hopefully, everyone won't bail on BB, because if the ratings drop too far, we may not get another show. Maybe I'm just a dreamer, but I am still looking forward to more BBs with more sensible groups of people.

Ocean_Islands

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 05:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It seems like there is much less FOTH than in previous years. Unfortunately, there is a lot less to watch ... in fact, maybe that is why there is less FOTH.

Woodpecke®

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 06:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, it's the worst BB ever. Considering that the combined entertainment value of the internet production featuring this narcissistic cast of profane and preening wannabes wouldn't be worth 15 minutes of Amazing Race footage, it's astonishing this show is in year 4 and getting solid if not stellar ratings.

Hobbs

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 06:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The question is, has it gotten better since the start. Yes it has. It was real boring at the start. Now it's annoying. It's like a bad car wreck. You have to look. But I will admit, I haven't looked at the feeds since Friday. I just come to General Discussions to see what's been going on when I get a chance. Previous years, I was glued to the computer.

Zachsmom

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 06:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The worst HGs yep...but I LOVE this year because of the drama!

Beruthiel

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 06:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
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Spwisc

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 06:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi in Germany! Is there a thread for people just to talk about anything? I would ask what part of Germany are you in?

I am enjoying BB4 enough. I don't get live feeds so I do watch the show. I'm enjoying Jun and Jee the most. Hope they stay til the end!

Cricket

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 06:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Had the good people gotten HOH after the coup they pulled off last week, it may have gotten better; however as of now, I'd say YES, this is the worst BB ever.

Bluejaxrock

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 07:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This BB is different for me than the past 2 (missed BB1) for a few reasons, not the least of which is that there is no one in this group that I either love to hate or hate to love. I never had the live feeds, but in previous seasons I would rush to my puter on a daily basis, sometimes on an hourly basis, to find out what was going on cause there was always something happening. Now, I catch up with the live feed posts every other day, if that. There are no interesting discussions in the General Discussion area (imo) because there is nothing interesting going on. I have classes on Wednesday's, and I don't jump on the puter when I get home to see what happened on the live show. Just don't care.
How would I change it? Don't know. I do know that this season of BB4 is a wash for me.

Maris

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 07:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cricket, I got to ask. Who are the good people? From my vantage point they are all pretty bad.

Is it getting better? Well it has certainly picked up since the beginning of the game. I still find it boring and it is getting worse with the polarization of the two camps. Last year we could be entertained by the backstabbing. Amy and Marcellas versus Tonya and Chiara was good fun. Even the Dani/Roddy spats were good fun.

I think the difference this year is that these houseguests are not nearly as intellegent as last years or the year befores HGs. They are ignorant about anything beyond their abs. We had a lot of pretty people before but at least they were interesting. These people are just not interesting to me. If I go by my viewing of the feeds pattern from previous years, I would watch the feeds till the wee hours of the morning and I always had them on when I was in the house. This year, I barely watch them unless someone is posting about an interesting conversation going on.

So is it getting better? It is getting better for this year but that isnt saying much. It doesnt match up to previous years.

Zachsmom

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 07:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with Maris..yes it has gotten better for BB4. I wasn't excited the first 2 weeks but now I am hooked again. I love BB! I let go of my expectation of what I think or would want the show to be and now I am enjoying the show immensly! I do think the prime factor in all of this is the posters here at TVCH! If it weren't for y'all I probably wouldn't have watched this year.

Azriel

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 07:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, I'm scratching my head here trying to figure out what interesting conversations went on last year. That was one of my chief complaints last year, no sign of intelligent life. Roddy came close to giving us some, but after listening to him talk to Chiara for very long I usually ended up with my eyes glazing over and only being able to hear that bwah bwah bwah sound from Charlie Brown cartoons.

Amy and Marcellas were entertaining but I wouldn't call their banter intelligent. Jason, Danielle, Lisa and Eric were ho hum for the whole show. Tonya,Chiara and Josh...don't make me laugh. Gerry tried but noone wanted to listen to him.

I actually think that this IS overall the most intelligent cast we have ever had. They just aren't spending much time talking about anything other than the game.

I think that is Big Brother's fault because they don't give them anything to work together on like they did in previous years. Their focus is too much on 'the game' 24/7.

Gabbyone

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 08:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I also have to agree this is the worst BB. All the fighting and nastiness has made me want to cancel my live feed subscription. At this point I don't care who wins. They can't seem to stop talking trash about the *other* side and the hatred they spew at each other is nauseating. BB needs to step in NOW with some twist or they will *at least* lose this viewer.

Ryn

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 08:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I would say......

if you only compare the 3 BB's Arnold has been involved in (Since BB1 was a completley different show).

Yes - its better than BB3 but not as good as BB2 (yet).

just mho but every year some group of people get tired of it, while another group discover it.

For twists and turns this house has been pretty interesting. And even though they have beaten some topics to death, at least they are wiling to go against the grain (voting out michelle, using veto).

I have noticed that I really don't care who wins, I have no favorite. And I don't see a "Will" type of person emerging (someone I detested at the beginning and ended up liking).

Bohawkins

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 09:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think they should send it a Kevin Powell (known as "the angry black man" on the first Real World), who has gone on to become a noted writer and lecturer and activist or a William Collins (known as Will Mega, the vocal black kicked off the first week on the first Big Brother) who was a former Black Panther and activist who has had a diverse and colorful post-BB career. He is now running for Philadelphia city council. Check out WillMega.com. Incidently, Will Mega may be the only BB alumni who has gone on to achieve anything worth noting.

These guys in their respective situations immediately voiced controversial opinions. Their unabashed expression resonated throughout the houses on both shows, challenging prejudices and bringing these issues to the forefront in housemate discussions. In Will Mega's case he was booted so fast they never got to have any real dialog with him.

Bringing in an articulate black activist of the caliber of either of these guys could shake up that house.

Spunky

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 09:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It's just sickening....

The only entertainment for me is to see them leave the house with their tail between their legs... As for the winner, I hope you choke on it..

Lurknomore

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 09:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry but I've tried...I think it's a heartfelt NO. I think this is by far the worst BB ever. We complained there was no one to root for last year after Hardy lost his niceness. Well this year I see a house filled with people I would RUN away from in real life.

There is no humor (beyond David), no caring, no sweetness. Jack always had some potential in my book but he's yet to live up to it. I just see mean people saying and doing mean things. That's fun? That's drama? Not without some balance in my book.

I think Arnie didn't learn a thing from his past BB's and I think he has no clue what his audience wants. If by some miracle there is a BB4 I pray he gets the boot and someone will take the time and learn how this show could be GREAT so we could have our BB back.

Zachsmom

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 09:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The question isn't "Is this BB better than the others". The question is "Has this show gotten better"

I think it has. I believe so because after the first 2 weeks I had no interest and now I do. I don't care about the characters on the show, I care about the drama!