Kalihiwahine | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 03:15 pm     C1...and if jun talks to jee about his offer to Ali, think he will keep his HONOR & integrity and admit the truth??? i doooon't think soooo |
Tobor7 | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 03:15 pm     Ya think Jun believes Ali? Why should she? |
C1mag | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 03:16 pm     Jig she knows that the guys would do it because she knows the guys have been lying all along. Jun doesn't trust them and she's had enough. She isn't gonna screw Erika and there is NO WAY jun will keep both guys and at this point Jee has done so much damage beggging to stay in the game that she won't chance it. Rob is an easy boot the following week and just play it out to the end. Jun does the numbers and the numbers say Jee goes this week stick with the girls and then next Rob is gone. If she keeps both guys and ali gets that next HOH you can bet Jun would be a nervous wreck because she lied to the girls. |
Jigglywigglyjun | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 03:16 pm     Kaliah.. I hope I am wrong too.. I want Jee gone... The guy is so full of himself he thinks he is Bruce Lee or something...LOL |
Crossfire | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 03:16 pm     That will be a key indicator for us, which of the boys goes on the line first as it puts Jee's life irrecoverably in Ali's hands. |
Chy | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 03:17 pm     Jun is helping the girl alliance big time by doing this. This is the best move! Erika shold thank her, not be nervous! Jun's nom. will stop the boys from pressuring ALi. Remember how they threatened Ali terribly about not giving her the end votes and will tell Justin & Dana not to give her their votes. Even if Jun could trust Ali at this point, it'd be hard for Ali to fend for herself day and night. Erika ought to be happy since this is a move to protect her. If Jun has the J2 on the block and Ali gave in some how, then Erika would be the only one possible to replaced the one vetoed!! |
C1mag | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 03:18 pm     Does she believe Ali? She believes Erika and Erika is backing everything up she is saying. She already knows that the guys LIE! Jee has to go. Jun isn't playing some underhanded game she is making sure that Ali is controled with the veto thats all it is. |
Crossfire | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 03:19 pm     That's a good point as well Chy. |
Smokey | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 03:20 pm     I also think Jee feel off his alliance spot with Jun last week with him putting everyone on PB&J and then winning the gnome thing. She seemed pretty disgusted by him. I heard her even say she was embarassed of him and apologized to Ali and Erika because she said he was there because of her. So--I think he's out. |
C1mag | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 03:21 pm     And the reason she isn't putting up Jee right now is so that he is exposed as the snake he really is when he trys to make deals. Jun is gonna have him at her mercy and then send him packing. This is how she is gonna nail him for all the gloating with the DT and the multiple hoh's. He will be BEGGING her not to put him up with that veto. She will love this and he will be put up. Ali would have her on the block and out the following week if she didn't do it. |
Angelbleu | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 03:21 pm     ummmmm hadn't thought of that Chy....I feel better about it now... |
Pantageas | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 03:23 pm     Jun is making sure Alison's options are limited. If Jun REALLY wanted to keep Jee, she'd nominate Erika and Alison, let Alison veto herself, then nominate Robert. Since she isn't, it's safe to assume that Jun isn't too worried about Jee making final two. By putting Alison up, Jun insures that Alison makes no other veto deals. By putting Robert up first, she makes sure that she still has a possible ally if some hocus-pocus goes on. It's a good move. |
Katlady53 | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 03:26 pm     Sounds like a good move to me! |
C1mag | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 03:29 pm     and pay attention to juns game. If she looks at a person and said I am voting for YOU to stay she has stuck to that deal. last week to make sure she wouldn't get put up with the veto when asked how she was voting she would say, "im voting with the majority of the house" "jee wants out Jack doesn't he?" and she left it at that. The second veto wasn't used she went to Jee and told him ... I'm keeping Erika don't worry you are safe. The girls said so. So she never lied about her vote. This week its gonna be the same thing. The girls will decide jees fate not her. She even told him she would put him up. However, she has looked right at Erika and said how it will definitely be. She won't pull back on it. She isn't screwing with the girls at all. She is too direct on what she wants out of all of this. In the process she controls the veto cause Ali is all over the place and she also has Jee BEGGING for mercy. She will tell him to go to the girls after she puts him up and make a deal with them if he wants to stay. She knows what deal he would make with them and she's got that covered as well. This is Juns week and she's calling it all and in the end Jee will leave like a whiped dog for pulling the whole DT crap and playing godfather in that hoh. |
Whit4you | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 03:31 pm     But if you haven't noticed each week the side that *needs* the HOH has won it, so no doubt the next HOH will be totally geered to Rob and he will win it. Wonder who he'd put up and who they'd vote out He'd probably put up Jun and Erika - Allie would vote out Erika (cause she has a better chanc to win against Jun in finals) |
C1mag | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 03:34 pm     Rob would put up both Ali and Jun and have Erika boot one of them. He has one road in this game. REVENGE and now that both girls have screwed the DT he would put both of them up. Who would Erika boot? Now thats the bigger question. |
Chy | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 03:34 pm     Angel, if you also keep repeating to yourself what C1 is saying: Remember Jun can't compete for HOH next Wed.. You will fill a whole lot better. ;-) I know they might be able to do HOH back to back right now, but does Jun know yet? If she had kept Jack last week and do this right now, I might be a bit nervous. One last point,(I promise) Jun & Jee have always say they recognize the fact that they will have to fight for self and forget about the secret alliance very soon. There will be no hard feelings, Jee will still give Jun the end vote. He respect her, said she's smarter than his proffesor, won't feel bad losing the game to Jun. |
Cameltoes | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 03:35 pm     Yes, C1 and that's why I think Jun has played better than the other floater - Ali. When she flips sides, she says CYA, I'm voting with those guys and leaves it at that. They always know which way she is going. Ali likes to play mindgames by promising everyone she is with them at all times. |
C1mag | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 03:37 pm     Camel good point on Juns game play. She's more direct in her play as a floater. Like I said it's been a quarter toss as to which floater has played better. I am leaning towards Jun as the better player for the reason you spotted. |
Niceguy | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 03:42 pm     Exactly Whit, the players always forget that part of the game's equation. Their ego won't let them see the absolute worst case scenario. It happened to Nicole and Monica, Danielle, Jason and definitely Marcellus. |
Chy | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 03:44 pm     Whit, I've notice that thing also. (about how in this season, each side that needed to have power will suddenly come to power.) But how is anyone going to give Rob an HOH? You saw how he almost couldn't even break ZERO last Wed.! BB had to have shout in Julie's earpiece and said: Just give it to him, give to him! (I am not ignoring the "cute", "funky" way BB phrased the question: You all have one of these but this one is unique..... Julie already let him know "picture" was the corecct answer, just gently asking for details and the very Swave Robert FREAKED OUT!) |
Niceguy | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 03:53 pm     I think Robert will be given all kinds of clues and cues in the DR this week as how to save himself. |
Niceguy | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 03:54 pm     I kinda think they want Robert and Allison or Robert and Erika in the finals. Sorry Ladies. |
Jigglywigglyjun | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 04:15 pm     i missed the Jun and robert talk in the HOH.. Did Jun make a deal with him? |
Lostintheglades | Friday, August 29, 2003 - 04:19 pm     No deal was made by Jun...Robert was trying to get Jun to see that Ali and Erika are now her best friends simply because she's the HOH. Jun say...that's what everyone does...it's part of the game and basically blew him off. |