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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Shades of BB1 (Interesting people all gone): Archive through August 03, 2003

Jolly_Penguin

Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 03:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I predict Nathan will leave next, or if not next, very very soon. Here's why:

All of the interesting people in the house are leaving first. First out, Amanda and Michelle (The female eye candy), then David (the entertainment), and now Dana (the villain everybody loves to hate). If Nathan (the male eye candy)goes next, we're left with nothing.

It will be like BB1 after Mega and Jordan left. That show was horrible in the ratings and was dull to watch because the interesting people all left first(the disturber (mega) and the stripper (jordan)).

Chai

Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 03:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I actually thought that Britney, Chicken George (with his looniness), Jamie, Curtis and Edddie were pretty interesting to watch.
JMHO

Seanflynn2003

Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 03:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
We have differemt definitions of interesting.
For me that would include people I might be able to have a conversation with that would keep me from nodding off.
There are a few of those left (Jack, Erika, maybe Jun), whereas of those gone so far maybe only Amanda could hold my interest.

Battlestarz

Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 03:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun, Ali, & Robert will be vying for the villian role

Demeter

Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 04:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I do think the show would be more entertaining with Dana and David still on the show, but...

Nathan is no eye-candy to me and he is one of the most boring hgs on the show.

Jack and Jee are both quite entertaining. They may have subdued personalities, but they are at least funny.

Justin is pretty boring, as is Rob...but the Jee3 together are fun to watch because they really have become good buddies.

Erika is boring, but I don't mind her, she doesn't irritate me.

I don't care for Ali nor Jun, but they add entertainment as well.

So, no, I think there are interesting people left.

I also thought BB1 was interesting. I've enjoyed all the Big Brothers. Each one has their pros and cons.

Lurknomore

Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 04:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Curtis made it to the final 3 and to me he will always be the most interesting HG in BB history. He was well rounded, FUNNY, interesting to listen to, didn't stab anyone in the back and had a lovely singing voice.

Now IMHO, aside from David and Jack, there were no other interesting HG's this year and both of them were laying so low we never got to see/hear it. Based on Jack's DR he might be really fun to watch and listen to but since the HG's not America are voting we'll never hear that from him IN the house. Especially since they didn't give him anyone to go off in a corner with and talk to.
So as far as Dave being gone I agree, but I didn't find anyone else that left interesting.

And I still say if BB1 had better TV editing versus just showing them talk as if you had the feeds, it would have been far more successful. And as I recall as much as folks say BB wasn't a success, it did VERY well in the ratings...it just wasn't the phenomenon that Survivor was during it's first season, which was about the same time.

Fuzzyb

Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 04:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No mentions of Eddie??

I think Jee is entertaining and that Ali is someone I love but also can't stand. A love to hate person.
With dana I can't stand the faces she makes, the comments she makes or her perception of how she plays. She irks me and there is not fun in that!

Hellokitty

Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 05:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amanda wasn't in for very long, how do we know she was soooo interesting?

She seemed softspoken and boring...just because she had sex with someone in the house didn't make her interesting.

As for Michelle...BORING!!! OMG, sure I guess she was eyecandy, but nothing else, you said the interesting people are leaving, she is far from interesting.

Even if Nathan and Dana leave, eventually the Stooges and the rest will start turning on each other and cause interest, we don't need eyecandy, look at Survivor, in most of the seasons the eyecandy leave early. (except the Amazon, and the ending was dull and boring, lol, don't get me started on that seperate subject.)

I think Justin, Gee and Robert trying to get other people on their side with Nate and Dana gone will be interesting. Alison will be freaking and Jun may just stick with Gee, I'd watch that over any of the predictible crap the past 2 weeks.

Smokey

Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 05:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think this season has had some interesting stuff so far. I loved it when Michelle was voted off and shocked the crap out of the Three Stooges. I am starting to warm up a bit to a few of them I guess. I like Jack, and I like Jee, even though he irritated me pretty bad when he was HOH with is godfather stuff. I still like him.

I loved BB1 and it was my all-time favorite so far. I loved the feeds because they didn't block things out. I loved watching the lives shows and the feeds at the same time, which they permitted back then. It was so cool to have the show go to commercial, then to watch the houseguests all talking about how the show had gone so far, then watch as the show came back on and they had to be quiet. :) I loved the ending when they were naming the winnter and Julie actually went into the house to tell them who won. One of the most eery things in BB history in my opinion, was after they announced Eddie the winner and showing everyone going into the BB house, Eddie and Josh's families, etc. then when it just stopped. It was so strange!

Kellirippa

Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 05:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with Kitty, I don't really miss Amanda or Michelle, Dave was funny, but not so much that I really miss him. Dana is at best annoying, but so is Alli, and I'm sure Jun will have her moments. I'm also always a bit confused by the way that people romanticize the cast of BB1.

Laisey

Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 05:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know how interesting these people might be. It's hard to tell when all four feeds stick with two people for what seems like forever. Hopefully those that have had almost no coverage will turn out to be both interesting and entertaining and we'll actually get to see it.

Ric_Munoz

Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 06:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
We romanticize the cast of BB1 because those people were entirely without guile and were beyond innocent. All who've come after them have entered the house with master plans and massive egos. The BB1 cast members are the closest thing to "real" we're ever going to get from the BB-USA franchise.

Philamom

Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 06:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Were the BB1 houseguests really "without guile" and "innocent"? Or did they simply act that way because they knew the TV-viewing public was watching and voting on their eviction? It's an interesting debate ... personally, I don't think it's a coincidence that after BB1 the majority of the HGs became manipulators and schemers. They knew they no longer had to play to the TV viewers.

And look at BB in the UK. For the past 4 years, all of their houseguests have acted like ours did in BB1, because in the UK the public still votes on eviction. Also, the contestants on Survivor and other reality shows have never displayed the "niceness" that we saw in BB1. Again, I think it's because they don't have to play to the public. Just my opinion.

Lurknomore

Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 06:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Unless Ric, CBS ever gives Arnie the boot and they re-vamp BB America (my mouth to Gods ears). I still contend we could have a a totally different BB that would be interesting, intelligent and get huge ratings. In my mind BB is a leg up on all the other allegedly reality shows in that there is nothing like it (beyond The Real World). If they ever get smart about how to really make it fly beyonds Arnie's lackluster idea to turn it into a soap opera (he seemed to forget those come with writers and there are already tons of them on the air)I think we could have a fascinating and fun show. The problem is with TV's limited patience I am not sure we'll get that chance.

But I clearly remember BB1 and haven't romanticized it...but I still think that cast was a lot more interesting than these wannabees of the last few seasons with NO life experiences, and little personality and humor.

I do agree that those who have entered have come with massive egos...but that's from casting wannabees and certain personality types. I don't think they have had "master plans" except Jason last year, as none of them have really been fans of the game, if they watched at all.

Kellirippa

Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 06:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Innocent and without guile, guess I should be watching more Barney the Dinosaur, clearly that's where the action is.

Tishala

Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 06:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh Kelli, surely you jest! That damned purple dinosaur is LOADED with guile! He's a veritable guile machine!

Kellirippa

Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 06:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
a lean mean purple guile machine??? Maybe pbs ought to hire on that Eddie then, or maybe that innocent guiless stripper from BB1 for some weekday morning stuff... Welcome to Eddie's world, it's a "bleepin" day in the neighborhood!

Bbwannab

Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 06:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think BB could and should be re-thought out.
The little suprises thrown in, every now and then are ok, but they really need to liven things up a lot.
Make the HG's earn their food, make them, have to complete a timed task every week for food, and if not copleted, either PBJ or only half the food bill.

I would like to see more of those compititons like they did in one of the other BB, where they would offer money or rewards to each of them, but only one of them will get it,then the rest of the HG eat PBJ. Remember those?

Give them a curfew before 3:00am. and make them get there butts out of bed before noon!

I'm just rattleing, I got board of watching them play cards, and lay around in bed all day.
They just need to do something!

Laisey

Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 07:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bring back vegetable baseball. At least the BB1 HGs tried to amuse themselves (and us).

Mom2camandy

Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 07:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They need more of the group competitions that last for hours. Remember the ones where BB would wake them up in the middle of the night without notice and make them dance? It was more interesting to watch them when they were doing things besides playing cards and whining!

Bbwannab

Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 07:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I remember those days!! Those were interesting to watch and it also gives the HG something to do.

Keiffer

Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 07:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
bb - The key to getting the HG's to sleep closer to the times real people in the working world sleep is not to have a curfew. Have sky lights installed in the bedrooms. If the bedrooms start to become uncomfortable to be in when the sun comes up they will stgart going to sleep a good deal earlier.

Not sure if the interesting people this year are leaving early. I do know that the relationship between Amanda and Dave would have been a ratings boom for the show though.

For BB1 again we get the mandatory statements wbout how fantastic Curtis was, but again I will say the same old things that are said each year a new show starts. That is that had the public not been voting Mega, and Jordan I think might have been decent game players and been around enough to really mix some things out. Brit getting voted out instead of George is example three of how America voting can ruin BB. I still dont get the like of a goof ball like George actually wearing a chicken suit to the final show could pass for entertainment.

Omegabubbles

Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 07:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What makes everyone so sure Nathan is going up on the block next week? Nathan could get HoH again and put Justin and Jee up. Justin needs to go next, just for his allience with Dana if nothing else.

Samiam

Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 07:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
To me Dana is completely boring due to the fact she repeats the same thing over and over again. I am so happy for her to be gone, she is the houseguest I have disliked the most ever. She is not in the love to hate category either. So in my mind her going is not getting rid of an interesting person.

Lancecrossfire

Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 07:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ric--I agred with you about the BB1 group. I think it's that way for 2 rteasons--they were the first, and it was us who voted--not them. So they had no reason to be against each other--and being in the house by themselves gave them cause to band together more than the other BB folks.

Also, I think the BB1 folks were a more diverse group than the others to date. After BB1, there was eye candy and 1 or 2 older people. The eye candy were into themselves only and couldn't discuss current afairs--or chose not to.

Interesting people--it's all based on your definition. I find Jack interesting because he has had some interesting life experiences, can sahre them, can listen to other's life experienes and put them all into a perspective. He has family and know the value of humility, respect, and sitting back.

Yet, others deifine intersting in other ways--Dana and her outrageous approach, or Dave with his humor and clowning around.

This is why I go back to BB1 being about HG's that could draw anyone in--there was enough differences and diversity to appeal to everyone--even though the way the game went didn't.

I will hold that while I wasn't his biggest fan, George may be the total package of what BB is all about. Someone who is a bit off the beaten track (but it's because that is who he is), has humor, has gone through a lot in life, and took his own approach to the game.