So predicatable...Segment on Nate as a stud
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Twiggyish

Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 08:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Very true Maris, Dana would try to find all of us. We'd be sleeping with one eye open.

We have had HG's visit our site. I think they must realize it's in the context of the game.

Maris

Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 08:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That is true and the tv show is the context of the game as well. How do you complain about what is going on in the tv set when the same stuff is happening on boards. It is all an extension of hte game.

I have gone to her Tiger Shulman gym to birthday parties a couple of times and I am trying to remember if I saw her there. Most of the teachers we had were men. You can bet I am going to be stopping by in October.

Laisey

Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 08:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, that's true. But to me there is a difference in coming to a website to see what's been said about you (where in most cases they can ususally find some positive comments) as compared to what is shown on TV. I doubt Ali's parents were overjoyed to see their daughter in bed with two different men (or did they show anything with Justin also, I can't remember). What do they say when someone says "Oh, I saw your daughter on the show last night"? Or Donny, when someone makes a comment about his girlfriend being in bed with two guys on the same show. This type of show can cause a lot pain to the HGs families and I think that's a sorry situation.

Maris

Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 08:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it is true of both. Looking for something nice about Dana or Robert would be like looking for a needle in a haystack in this place or any of the boards I belong to. Ultimately they are all responsible for how they are portrayed. Dana and Alison gave the material that allowed themselves to be trashed. Some of it is a little over the top for my taste, but they bring it on themselves. I dont think the personal attacks on Dana were meritted but I think that also was egged on by Jack the supposedly respected HG. When he called her that name it was like open season on the woman. I have to say it disgusted me some of the stuff I read and it was totally unwarranted. What offended me most I think is that it was women for the most part writing this stuff. The same as Jun, how is her family going to like the way she was portrayed or how she is trashed for gaining a few pounds.

The tv show is no different than most of the boards this year. Maybe it is because of the guests that the boards are so nasty about people I dont know.

Lurknomore

Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 10:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm scratching my head here. See I don't think the show is reflecting public opinion on the HG. Robert was painted as a male Mother Theresa for crying out loud. They showed him as a caring, sympathetic, supportive friend to Jee (he was pretty decent to him), made him look like he has been kind and compassionate to Erika, and an all around nice guy. ROBERT? Our nose excavation guy? Where? When? lol

Nate, who yes can be a tad egotisical but all in all hasn't been a bad guy has now had THREE count em THREE features on 2 shows addressing his sexuality. I haven't seen this to be a raging issues on the boards or on the feeds.

Dana, who's voice literally affects me in a similar manner to fingernails on a blackboard and who screetches more than frightened wild animals has been presented as MUCH softer than she is on the feeds.

Jun, who made endless catty comments hasn't been gone after for them, but first we have that charming feature on her figure and now they are presenting her as a clever stategist...which she is, but where is the balance showing her running from one group to the other?

I could go on but you get my point. I don't get this years approach to features. They seem not to follow the way HG's are presenting themselves in the house, not neccessarily based on reality, and fixated on certain aspects. WHY? I'm stumped.

Bluerose

Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 11:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I like everything Jack said about Dana and I hope he wins it all.

Kalekona

Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 11:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lurk- many people like Robert, he has been a solid and caring person to those in the house. Even Erika. Has he still wanted to get her out? Sure just as she has still campaigned to get him out.
The reason he assumed Jee was upset about his girl is because that's what it has always been about when Jee has gotten really down.

I'm sorry we disagree but I see Erika as the phoney here. And jack has said crueler things about just about all the women in the house except for Erika.

As for Nate, he has made anti semetic, anti gay comments and will cuddle up to Ali but still call her a ••••• , in so many words.. He is not a nice guy at all.

Lurknomore

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 12:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You shall be the last post of my day Kale...lucky, lucky you lol. I think you missed some of my point, I'll try to be clearer.

I'm not saying ANY of these HG's are saint's...not even close. But if they were going to show Nate in a bad light, then show him saying stuff he said, not do three segments on his sexuality and bizarre innuendo's about it.

As for Robert, he has been nice on occassion, but he also has been VERY skeevy and made tons of snide comments. Again, there was no balance. I actually totally agree with you about Erika...I didn't like her from the first commercial I saw pre-BB when she replied to something how she got on BB by saying "just look at me." Well I didn't think she was "all that" then or now.

I do like Jack more than anyone else because he is the only true adult and educated person in there. I like how he politely and with charm made that comment about how he trusted his daughters on who to date when they were having that interracial discussion. I like the articles he's read, and I think a lot of his comments are being taken out of context as we have no clue what went before or after them. He's been great in the house, whereas I think if I were him I would have hurdled the wall. My only reason for wanting Erika to stay is to keep him in the game.

But the point I was trying to make is I don't see the rhyme or reasons behind the features this year. I think, for the most part, they are not accurately representing what is going on in the house. There seems to be some "agenda" with them (I still have not heard any possible reason why they would do 3 segments on Nate's sexuality in 2 shows, or why that would seem reasonable when it is not an issue in the house). I just don't get the rationale behind many of the features. That was my point. Hope I did a better job of expressing my point more clearly...and now I'm going to bed LOL. See ya at the sandbox tomorrow :)

Omegabubbles

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 12:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You expressed yourself very well Lurk. I personally like Jack the best and I can't stand Dana so anything he said was aces in my book("she gets high off her own venom")lmao.I'm torn about Erica but I don't hate her or anything. To me Ali and Nate are just two squabling kids. I do think it took someone like Ali to put Dana down and I like Nates' loyalty at the time, for getting veto and taking her off the block. I have no use for Robert. The moment I saw him I heard hissing, That's just my reaction to him. I also have no use for Justin for his relationship with Dana.

Jadar

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 12:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What's up with Nathan's sexuality? I didn't think Nathan was ever gay until CBS made it an issue. From watching the feeds, I just took it for joking around or in Ali's case, backstabbing.

Now I can't help but wonder if Nathan is truly gay or not. I find myself finding nuances in his every movement.

While I'm not a fan of Nathan's at all, I already feel for him for when he'll have to deal with people making fun of him or even questioning his sexual orientation back in OK. They're not exactly the most liberal of bunches. I can just picture him constantly trying to convince everyone he meets that he's not gay (if he isn't). LOL

What a cruel joke that would be.

Omegabubbles

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 12:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I doubt Nathan is gay either. I think a lot of people want him to be gay for some reason.

Kalekona

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 01:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think we just miss our marcellas and bunkey!!!

C1mag

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 02:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Anyone notice in the real player webbrowser that the picture of Robert is one of him picking his nose? Thats the only fame this guy is gonna get out of this. He is gonna be known as the dude who picked his nose 24/7 in the bb house. Hahahahahahaha!

I am still looking for the pole that shows that a lot of people "like" Robert.... and for someone who has shown a lot of caring for others in the house he sure did turn on Dana in a snap when she was of no use to him and his buds any longer. The trash he has been saying about her sure isn't the definition of "caring"

Laisey

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 05:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lurk, I shall now endeavor to explain to you why AS is making an issue of Nate's sexuality. I did not come to this realization myself. It was shared with me by my orange cat (the fat cat was eating and striped cat was in bed, so they were not part of this very confidential conversation).

Arnie was asked in the press conference before the HGs went into the house if there were any gays and replied not to his knowledge. Being the very astute, sensitive, and creative producer that he is, Arnie realized that since this question came from the press it might have some validity and he decided to use it in the food challenge. Having decided to ask the question, he now needed a suspect, someone for the camera to focus on immediately after the question. This decision was easy. He wanted nothing to interfer with his expectations for the X factor, so it had to be one of the non-exes. Jack has a wife so he was not eligible and because, for some reason, TV prefers males in this role, Dana was ruled out. This left only Nate.

Throughout the past month Arnie has wondered if he might have a very, very, very small error in judgement by not having a more diverse cast. At this point my orange cat has two theories. Her second theory is that when Ali made her statement to Justin, Arnie jumped up and down in glee, shouting thank you, Ali, thank you. You've given me the diversity I needed. He then immediately doubled her stipend. Her first theory is that the thought was planted by questions Ali was asked in the DR.

This is what my orange cat shared with me this morning and she asks that I make this post in memory of the Conspiracy Thread.