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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Erika's JA is BB1 Josh?: Archives: Archive through August 30, 2003

Sanfranjoshfan

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 12:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, I just GOTTA defend Josh here! After all, I named myself after him! :)

I don't think it matters one teeny tiny bit that he is dating Erika. It won't help Erikla play the game.....BB1 and BB4 have different producers, BB1 used NO discussed strategy, they had no HOH, no POV, they could not vote to evict. America voted to evict the HGs then, and in BB1, the HG were not even allowed to discuss their nominations! It's like saying that knowing someone that was on Wheel of Fortune gives them an advantage when playing Jeopardy!

As for Josh's journalistic integrity....he writes a column that is based on his OPINION of BB4's game. I never saw on his site that he claimed to be an objective "journalist". He is just giving his own personal opinion of BB4 to his fans....claiming that his column is not "true journalism" is fine....because his column is NOT true journalism....it's a weekly op-ed piece!

In any case, I don't see how Josh and Erika dating can impact the *game* at all....unless Erika is really there as a new twist (as a mole or something). Remember, once BB4 is over, all the HGs will know that Josh is her bf. If the HGs were going to get upset over this relationship while they were still in the house playing the game, they will likely be even MORE upset when they find out about it....after they lose the game by being voted out!

The whole thing is....dare I say it?....dare I use the catch phrase of one of the previous HG that I disliked the MOST....? Okay, I'll do it.....The whole thing is SCANDALOUS!:)

Gina8642

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 12:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm not whining. I'm talking about something interesting. This is the most interesting thing about this show in days! LOL.

Thetruth

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 12:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What's worse than people wasting their time 'whining'?

Wasting your time whining about their 'whining' :)

Gidget

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 12:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Heh. I had Erica pegged as the un outed gay person.

Frankly there have been so many "connected" people made it onto BB, what's one more.

And she is playing pretty decently. I mean not throwing her body and sexual favors around and staying pretty true to her ally until it became a matter of her vs. him.

Who cares?

Does anyone remember any bio about Josh. I'm afraid 4 years ago is mostly a blur to me. The pictures did remind me that he was pretty cute, but wasn't he a real "player" at the time.

Hope he's a more committed mate these days.

Sunshyne4u

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 12:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
First I must apologize to MissLibra for my comments......IN MY OPINION Erika has a saggy behind and all the loose skin that goes along with her age. I am sorry! I just cant imagine young goodlooking Josh having a serious relationship with her. Good friends, Yes....Bed buddys...why not...but a serious relationship?? Dont think so.
Someone about ten posts put in a pic from this season's BB showing Erika in the same swimsuit as the Josh pics. Have a look at her saggy arms in the pic!! She lays down and gravity takes hold LOL.
Her face seems haggard in the Diary room interviews, I question her age as only 33. I must seem like a real cow making these comments but I feel the need to clarify my point.
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Does she have insider info or was Josh able to give her helpful ideas on "how to stay in the game"?? Very possibly, but the most important thing in this game is not to be in conflicts with others. Erika is playing it perfectly, however, as she was recruited (thru her agent!!!!! told on live feeds) I dont want her to win. I now am hoping JUN although ALI is really working it hard.
I will commit Hari kiri if Rob wins anything!

Just my Opinion :-)

Bastable

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 12:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gidget, more than a few people thought that Josh was also an un-outed gay man. Hmmmm....

Demsome

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 12:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am just dismayed some people consider 33 OLD. I think its great Erica and Josh are together if it makes them happy. Sunshyne you must be really upset about Demi and Ashton. I personally doubt if Ericas realtionship with Josh will effect the outcome of the day.

Costacat

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 12:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
First of all, anyone who thinks 33 is old is probably very young. Erika is in great shape. And 33 is most definitely NOT old. I am seriously appalled at the comments made here, and only wonder about the age of the poster. (BTW, a 7 year difference is minimal, particularly between GROWN ADULTS.)

Secondly, I'm not surprised that ASP et al have not disclosed Erika's connection (if any) to Big Brother 1. Remember? Arnie doesn't even consider the first season of Big Brother. This is his third season (even though it's really the fourth airing of the show). I think, in Arnie's mind, that BB1 was a completely different reality show. Which, if you stop to think about, it was.

Sanfranjoshfan

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 12:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sunshyne4u - "but the most important thing in this game is not to be in conflicts with others."

Well, maybe in the PAST.....but this is the "new and improved" version with the added "eX Factor"! They made it a huge point this year to do exactly that....they threw in exes of some of the HG's for the sole purpose of causing personal conflict. Not only that, but they only did this to *some* of the HGs.

Moderator

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 12:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just FYI - some posts have been moved to this thread from another thread. Sorry for any confusion!

(SD)

Meggieprice

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 12:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Erika is gorgeous and in great shape- but I can't understand thinking that those attributes should be the criteria for Josh being with her or not. That is a shallow view of the world... in my opinion.

Sunshyne4u

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 12:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Demsome. I am older than 33 and I dont consider that age OLD. HER LOOKS are older. She is slim but the loose skin gives her age away. I dont have that even at 40!!
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My last boyfriend was 13 yrs younger than I. I dont have a problem with ages. BUT I was a big BB1 fan. As others have said here, Josh seemed so lost and naive, I truly cant imagine him in a serious relationship with someone older. Isnt it funny?? years later and us BB1 fans still feel somehow connected to our first group of hamsters LOL I just wish that Eddie had been able to be successful in his plans. Never heard a thing about that movie being even released.

Hkm

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 12:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It is up to them, the age difference doesn't matter.

Love is no respecter of age, when it strikes it does and takes no prisoners.

Beruthiel

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 12:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As a 58 year old, I'm crushed that 33 is considered old - and if anyone thinks Erika has a saggy gluteus maximus, have I got news for you! It comes to us all, and to some, sooner rather than later.
Personally, I'd be very happy to look as good in a bikini as Erika does, with or without her enhancements.
{Sorry, but this turn of the conversation is making me ROFL bigtime! I was going to post a new photo with my profile, and now I'm scared! Heehehehehe!

Zachsmom

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 12:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Bernie..I so agree on the sagging! Yes, someday we all turn around and think we'll see a nice firm behind and look in the mirror and see our mothers butt in the reflection! <sigh>

Weinermr

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 12:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope I never stand in front of the mirror and see my mother's butt in the reflection.

Zachsmom

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 12:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL! I hope for your sake you don't either! <nothing against your mothers butt of course>

Gidget

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 01:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My mother is 67. Has never been over weight. Has less sag than me. Still looks good in bathing suit and sleeveless dresses.

Alas, I take after my Dad.

Karuuna

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 01:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
<standing by Beruthiel, sagginess and all>

Here's an interesting concept. What if Josh loves her for who she is, rather than what she looks like? I know, I know, it's a radical idea, but it makes my sagginess feel better.

<Karuuna slips out singing, They may say I'm a dreamer.....>

Auntiemike

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 01:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I sag, I wrinkle, I bulge, I've over 50 with a husband 13.5 year younger than I! Do he love me for what I look like....not. He loves the woman who is inside this earthly vessel. For pete's sake, let's not give so much importance to sagging skins as the basis for a relationship. I don't care how old you are. My yet to be husband in his young years of wisdom said to me, " I look for the person within the outer shell." Lucky me!!! Maybe Erika has that kind of luck.

Beruthiel

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 01:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just for the record, I don't have a saggy butt yet, but elsewhere...
At least I don't fit the criteria of the pages of National Geographic yet, ROFL!
And that's my last word on the subject, I promise!

Squaredsc

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 01:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
the view looks good from here weinerkins.

Scorpiomoon

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 01:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"...and all the loose skin that goes along with her age."

WTF? It just BLOWS MY MIND at how completely shallow some people are and how readily they are to admit it so openly.

Weinermr

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 01:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Square, I can always count on you.

FYI, I agree with Kar.

Beruthiel

Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 01:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So do I.