Who will Jun put up, ERIKA or ROBERT?
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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Who will Jun put up, ERIKA or ROBERT?

Spunky

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 10:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't believe she didn't give us many hints as to what she'll do when Ali saves herself.

If she's that smart, as many said here, she should put Robert up and not Erika. There is still a risk that if Erika is up both Ali and Robert will vote for Erika to go. Now Jun can't afford this risk if she truly wants Jee out. So, her only choice should be Robert. Even if she gets the tiebraker with one vote for Robert and one for Jee, she's the one who will evict Jee. But it gets risky for her if Erika is up.

So, Robert must go up (if she does so I will join the majority in saying she's the "smartest" one in the house).

Dan

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 10:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Unless she secretly want Jee to stay.

Brenda1966

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 10:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It would be quite exciting if she put up Erika, but I think she'll put up Robert and Jee will leave.

Wendo

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 10:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun said on last nights show that her alliance with Jee is now over. Therefore, she wants Jee to go. To ensure that, I'm pretty sure she'll put up Robert.

Chy

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 10:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
By now, Jun is the smartest in the house. Who else do you have in mind?

But the show last night tried to tell us that she has good enough reasons to put any of them up.
Jun told Jee that Erika really wants Rob out asap, which I think is a way to calm Jee into thinking that, She'd replace Rob on Ali's spot. She still might do that since she once told the girls it'd make her look better if others phisically voted Jee out instead of her.
Gamewise, you are right Spunky, it's a better move to put Rob on the block also. Don't ever give Ali too much control. That seems to be in Jun's thoughts. We know Ali is thinking about going to the F2 w/ Rob!! But does Jun know it? Well, Jun's noming Ali on the block was a move to prevent her under-the-table's dealings w/ either boys. She even said that during the ceremony, she said Ali's up there because Ali's a strong player and with the veto power this week makes her even more a threat(PP) ....

Jun still might put Erika out if she does veiwed Er a big threat and someone she can't win against in the F2...
If I gamble, I'd put some money on Jun placing Rob on the block. Jun always try to look good to all HGs and DR, she won't be able to explain away too well if she'd put Erika up.
I don't have LF but read (not as much as I'd like to)some posts here. I'm probably not qualified to give opinions, gave them anyways. Hope it's not wayyyy off.

Spunky

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 10:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That conversation between Erika and Robert that Jun overheard may have "flipped the script" (as discussed in another thread).
So, she is really keen on evicting Jee and still cannot risk putting Erika up instead of Robert. She doesn't trust Ali.... neither would I.

Wendo

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 10:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun may not trust Ali. But I wonder how she feels about Erika since she overheard her with Robert? Will Erika say something about it to the girls? Hmmm.

Cameltoes

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 10:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun is telling Jee "it might be an interesting show after all". I think she wants Jee to stay because of what she overheard.

Justalittlebean

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 10:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Jun will put Erica up because she knows that Erica is a strong player and well liked. I don't think Jun could win against Erica. I also think that her and Jee still have an alliance. Her actions show she still has some feelings for Jee and that is why she keeps making fun of Jee and Carmen. She knows that Robert and Allison aren't a threat. There's no chance those two are going to win, unless they go up against each other and I see Robert winning.

Fluff

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 11:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It doesn't make much of a difference, but I see Erika as the bigger threat.

Charvie

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 11:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It would be suicide for Jun to keep Robert and Jee. She has to get rid of one of them. If she doesn't than she is the next victim. Alison wins HOH with Rob and Jee still in the house she will definately put up Jee and Jun. And Robert will definitely get rid of Jun. So no she isn't getting rid of Erika tonight. But she may be getting rid of Robert tonight.

Charvie

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 11:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I also wanted to add, if Robert wins it is Jun and Alison, if Jee wins it's Jun and Alison on the block. Those two boys have no intention of getting rid of each other if they both get to stay. And Jee has told this to Jun.

Spunky

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 11:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree, it would defeat the purpose of her nominations if she evicts Erika. The stooges alliance intact.. that would be "earth-shattering flip..."... It has to be Jee out tonight.... or Robert. One of them for sure.

P.S. She was too adamant in the DR when she expressed her wish to kick Jee out of her life for good... I was a bit surprised that she mixed her private and her game relationship with Jee, and with such a serious face... she scared me. Could one hate so much, I wonder..

Charvie

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 11:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The problem Jun has is overplaying the Erika and Robert alliance to Alison. Alison is paranoid enough to just vote Robert out forcing a tie and Jun on live tv having to evict Jee. Which will not win her any votes with the jury she wants votes from. ie..Dana, Jee, Justin

Jigglywigglyjun

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 12:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I believe this is the perfect excuse for Jun too keep Jee( IMHO i think she wanted to keep him) and get rid of robert....

robert will go today

Wanderer

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 12:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Jun puts Erika it is possible that Rob (in view of his convo with Erika this am) will vote to keep Erika, Ali votes to keep Jee causing a tie and Jun is then forced to show her real feelings. If Jun keeps Erika, Ali would really flip for sure and get so frustrated she couldn't win HOH

Spunky

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 12:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Mmmm, Wanderer... that's a way to fool Ali, but she still didn't change a thing since she'll evict Jee according to what you're saying.
And Ali would never keep Jee over Erika, she may keep Robert if he was up with Jee...
This is why Jun should be cautious and put Robert up...
holy crap.. Erika may evict Robert after all, and if Ali does the same.... nah...

Gina8642

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 12:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think if Jee stays, he may actually try to keep Ali around over Jun. Why? Because this guy wants to win, his easiest win would be over Ali. I think unless something happens between now and the vote that they will keep to the plan and Jee will go.

The plan being: Ali vetoes herself, Robert goes up, Ali & Erika vote out Jee.

Jigglywigglyjun

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 12:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Spunky, ali has been nagging Jun since the day before last that she hates Robert.. and the way robert was acting yesterday Ali stressed to Jun that she wouldn't mind him leaving instead of Jee... Now with Jun makin Ali more paranoid, that's all she needed .... Ali will vote for Robert to leave....

Cricket

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 01:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun would be foolish to put Erika up and vote her out. Jee is a much stronger (luckier) competitor than Erika and she would be throwing money away.

I think she'll put Robert up and Jee will go.

Woodpecke®

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 01:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee is leaving. As Wilford Brimley used to say: "It's the right thing to do."

Seamonkey

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 01:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She'd vote Erika out in a flash IF that didn't leave Jee and Robert in the house together. As long as Robert is there, Jee will be loyal to Robert.

If she can convince either Erika or Ali to vote Robert out.. or both of them but just one would give Jun the tiebreaker.. that would work for Jun and Jee but since Ali and Erika each have tentative alliances with Robert AND they greatly fear a Jun/Jee alliance, Robert will be safe.

Putting Erika in there would still mean Jee would be gone and Erika would be more pissed at Jun.

Ali of course is safe as long as she takes herself off the block, so Ali going isn't an option.

Jpgramma

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 01:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Question for those listening to livefeeds. A post at Jokers px, at 1:19 (bbtime) reports that June told Jee that she would vote for Robert. Same post also mentions that Gee doesn't tell this to Robert.

This would indicated that (unless sje's blowing smoke Gee's way) that she DOES still plan on putting Robt. up when Ali removes herself. So..did anyone hear this?? Is Ali really planning on voting out Robt and June's planning on using her tie-break to support a Robt boot? and, if so, do they plan on letting Erika in on this??
I'm so cornfuzzled.

Charvie

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 01:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think she meant if it was a final 2 against erika or alison she'd vote for robert.

Kennyb

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 01:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The only thing that make me think Jee maybe safe is the editing last night made it seem like it was a sure thing........

Jpgramma

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 01:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh! phew. Thanks Charvie. That makes much more sense , and the added remark about Gee not telling Robt makes even more sense now.

Wgm

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 01:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that she will put up Robert.

Spunky

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 02:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
With Robert wanting Ali out so bad shows you he really doesn't know how to play this game. He should be happy to have Ali around and especially in the finals since everyone would win against her... even Robert.

It just doesn't sink in...someone has to spell it out for him...but Jee keeps it to himself...

I can't understand these people, why wouldn't Jun approach Erika and tell her she overheard her conversation with Robert. It's time to clear the air and not just assume or assume wrong, Jun should get upfront this time and ask Erika if she intends to get Robert to the finals, at least see what she replies. She should do the same with Ali, I'm surprised she didn't notice how Ali has doubled her floating duties...
I say she has to ask because she'll be very vulnerable after tonight since she cannot compete for HOH..

Jigglywigglyjun

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 02:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So for us guys going by the feeds who is going tonight.. Jee or Robert? I pick Robert....

Spunky

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 02:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wouldn't that be swell???
Robert gone and Jee still there, enough to drive Ali insane with Jun's fooling act. She may well win HOH and put Jun and Jee up together. That would make my day! Jee will be gone next for sure but it will be nice to see Jun and Jee on the block together. They'll rip each other apart..
But this is for our own BB show.. where's that thread... gone down already..

Texasdeb

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 03:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Jee somehow manages to stay - could we handle the possibility of another "King" Jee wk. I don't think so. Jee needs to go.

Jigglywigglyjun

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 03:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Applys ducktape to Texas's mouth.... Do not ever utter those words again!

<shutters at the thought>

Seamonkey

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 03:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It seems we have a new factor.. there will be POV next week and it will come after nominations :)

So this means the next nominations aren't cast in concrete when they are made..

Pantageas

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 03:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My hope is that Jee wins, and then takes a bribe to make all the girls eat PB & J. Now THAT would be good TV!!