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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: LAST Golden POV of BB4: Archive through September 05, 2003

Spunky

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 09:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This is it... for Ali or for Erika... funny enough Jun and Robert are sitting pretty...

The two most at risk are Ali and Erika, Ali has to save herself, but Erika has to win to keep the power of eviction.

Jun can afford to lose, even if she'll try hard, Robert made Erika promise Jun she'll be safe.... but would Erika honor that promise?

Jun, is the wild card, she could dump her promise to Robert and keep Ali thinking it's her best chance at winning the 500k.

The other at risk is Erika, Ali will try very hard to win and she'll get rid of Erika for sure.

Meanwhile Robert can enjoy watching the women fight each other..

Spunky

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 10:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yooohooo???

Anyone knows when it's going to be today and what kind of comp is going to be?

Cliotheleo

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 10:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
C1 (or anyone else for that matter) thanks again for the offer to email me and tell me who the winner is! ivoryfair@yahoo.com I gotta go to work. :(

Spunky

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 10:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I know what that means...Clio.. I had someone call my cell to let me know who won the POV when Dana was up...

Julieboo

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 11:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
When will the comp be? Anyone know?

Spunky

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 11:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Jun said later on in the day and mentioned again that funny Russian Roulette thing she saw... I feel bad about this... I don't like chance comps... I'd like to see a comp that shows their stamina and feel better about the winner afterwards..

Certainly not another fluke.. I couldn't take that.. especially if it's Robert who gets it.

It still looks very bad for Ali...

Cameltoes

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 11:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Jun has to win too. Erika has already been working on Rob trying to have him see her POV about keeping Ali. I think that if the nominations stick, she will evict Jun.

Spunky

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 11:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It would certainly be a logic move by Erika, especially if she ends up with Ali as the last two. Even though Robert and Jun would be mad at Erika they would still vote for Erika and not for Ali...
Boy, Ali is worth 500 k for them and they want to throw her out?? Mmmm

Fabnsab

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 12:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wish they wouldnt have POV this week. Last year, they ended it with Marcellus Golden veto when there were 5 of them. They must be aiming to get a particular person out this year or they would have ended it already.

Jolly_Penguin

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 12:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You're forgetting about the last big twist.


And no, I don't know what it is.

Meggieprice

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 12:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag had a great thought that it could be the jury who competes for POV and then decided...wouldn't that be fun?

I agree Fabnsab- it doesn't seem fair that this HOH is tarnished in this way.

Spunky

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 12:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It certainly is interesting to have the jury compete for POV and then decide, but the outcome would be so unanimous, ALI out, that it would be too predictable.

What surprizes me is that there is no hint from BB as to what the comp will be like so that they could prepare for it. All they do is sleep...

Seamonkey

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 12:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jun is completely vulerable.. as is Ali.

Each must win POV to be safe. (each may have to rely on Erika to vote out the other, but neither is safe if Erika has POV, or if Robert has POV, leaving Erika as the voter.

Robert is safe, period. (100%)
Erika is totally safe if she or Robert win POV (50%)
Ali and Jun are totally safe only if they hold the veto (25%).

Right now, Erika has said to Robert that it is to his advantage to boot Ali, hers to boot Jun, so
I'd say Jun is most at risk.

Spunky

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 01:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Robert notices that Erika may not honor her promise to boot Ali, he may want to win POV to put Erika up and then work to get rid of Erika and the others would jump on that!!
So, it's doubly risky for Erika to show she wants Jun out.

It's really a mind-boggling situation, so many possibilities it's really hard to predict.

I wonder if BB won't reveal the POV winner until the last minute, so that no one can do much bargaining and could vote as they see fit and not honoring their promises.

Azlen

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 01:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Isn't the last HOH competition an endurance competition? If that were the case I would want Erika out because she has already shown a talent for endurance.

Reader234

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 01:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Ali has also shown a great talent for endurance, she left the 'jail' because of deal making... I think...

Cndeariso

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 01:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Who did Robert nominate?
Have they had the veto meeting?

Puzzled

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 02:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Right now, Erika has said to Robert that it is to his advantage to boot Ali, hers to boot Jun

I don't understand this at all. Next week is the endurance comp, so wouldn't it be to Erika's advantage to boot Ali?

That way she would be up against two people who have less chance to win than she does. If Ali wins HOH next week, she will certainly boot Erika, thinking she has a better chance to win against Robert.

Busydizzle

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 02:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
CBS's video preview on the website says nothing about a veto competition. Have any commercials or shows stated that there would be one? If not, I would guess that there isn't going to be one since they usually do a good job of advertising eviction ceremonies and important competitions.

Jigglywigglyjun

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 02:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Busy, I was thinking the same thing.. But some posters have stated they heard on the live show that there was going to be a POV? I personally didn't here anything about a POV thus that is why I am thinking there WONT be one....

I have been known to be wrong one or twice in my life though...:)

Spunky

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 02:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cndeariso,
Ali and Jun are nominated. Erika is the voter.
Golden POV could change all that.

Robert asked the DR and was told, yes, there's going to be POV comp later on, an announcement will be made shortly.

BB is making it nerv-wrecking for them and for us...

Prisonerno6

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 02:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought the diary room said they would let him know shortly (about the POV), and he surmised that meant it would be later today.

Meggieprice

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 02:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sea- did Erika say that to Robert again today or are you referring to her sayng it last night?

Spear

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 02:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Puzzled, Erika wants to keep Ali because of her promise to Ali not to vote her out. She thinks breaking her word with Ali will cost her Ali's jury vote. Personally, I think she can afford to lose Ali's vote.

Busydizzle

Friday, September 05, 2003 - 02:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If they end up NOT having a veto competition, I would be upset if I were Jun or Ali. It would be easy to argue that making such a decision AFTER nominations is inherently unfair. It essentially lets the producers decide whether or not they want the specific person not nominated to remain safe or not. Does anyone else see this?