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TV ClubHouse: ARCHIVES: Big Brother USA 2003 General Discussions Part 1: Do they really think we won't watch the show?: Archive through August 06, 2003

Hobbs

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 08:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I know this has been complained about before, but there isn't much else going on...

Do they really think we won't watch the show if we get to watch the comps on the feeds? We figure out the outcome by listening to them and we still watch the show. During BB1, I would watch the live show and the feeds at the same time! The producers are just plain paranoid of the internet and the ratings. I'm sure if Endomol didn't require the internet, then Arnie would have dropped it a long time ago and just made it "Survivor In A House". (Has anyone noticed the Survivor voting music during nominations?)

Another silly thing is FOTHing whenever BB talks to the HG's. Do they really think that we don't know the HG's get spoken to? It just seems like the producers are acting like little kids. "I don't like the internet people so I'm going to do everything I can to make them miserable"

Well you aren't getting to me this year because your houseguests are so F'ing childish and boring I cancelled my feed on Monday. I have my friends hear at TVCH to keep me informed. They actually care, unlike you Arnie.

Cropcircles

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 08:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm not sure they really care how us "internet geeks" feel about the show. I think they probably only care about pleasing their sponsors. Since the ratings seem to be going pretty well they most likely will continue on the same dismal route.Personally I needed more hamsters over the age of 30, with some life experience beyond partying. But at the same token- like watching a car wreck when you drive by, I'm still watching!

Laisey

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 08:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hobbs, I know exactly what you mean. BTW, as far as I'm concerned, you could have stopped your thread title after the first four words.

Hobbs

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 08:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lol, Laisey.

Gina8642

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 09:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the internet feeds are a sucess for CBS. They realized after BB3 that people will pay for this access. Between BB2 and BB3 the numbers of subscribers hugely increased. It got a lot of press attention. As people upgrade their computers, the potential of this type of thing has finally been realized.

This year, I think there has been a lot less FOTH. I've heard tons about what was said (on both sides) in the DR. The only FOTH there is for the most part is:
-actual competitions
-actual ceremonies
-any group direction from BB on comp.s and ceremonies
-any detailed discussions of individuals that didn't sign realeases. (Hey - this isn't CBS trying to trick you - it's the law.)
-any use of music (see same comment just above)
-actual sex (David & Amanda) (This one surprised me that they cut to FOTH. I wonder if it was because he was sick? I really don't know.)

This year they haven't been cutting to FOTH if:
(I saw all this stuff frequently cut last year)
-HGs discuss their participation in comp.s/ceremonies.
-HGs discuss folks outside the house, but aren't specific about that person's identity.
-HGs discuss strategy, including intended votes


IMO - I think they (CBS) are being LESS secretive than in past years. I also think CBS has done a better job of informing them (the HGs) what they can and can't talk about outside the DR. They are all very aware of it, and chastize each other if they go over the line.

Ocean_Islands

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 09:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Do you have a link to a confirmation of info that more people are subscribing to the feeds? Because my guess would be that you are wrong.

The reason there is less FOTH this year is because people are complaining and cancelling. They realized people are feeling gyped.

I'm happy there is less FOTH than in prior years, unfortunately the HGs this year are only about 25% as interesting as last year.

Laisey

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 09:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
OI, they'd probably use numbers of how many signed up for the 14-day free trial about the time of the start of BB and conveniently forget to count those that cancelled.

There may be fewer FOTH's because the actions that would cause them are elsewhere while we watch four feeds of Dana and Justin lying in bed.

Gina8642

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 10:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm sorry I don't have a link. But I specifically remember quite a bit of press at the end of BB3. It said they had actually made money on the Live Feeds (which until recently was a very, very rare thing for anything on the internet. They specified cash earning (no, I don't remember what they were) so it wasn't from the free trial.

IMO - I think there will be another big increase in subscribers this year as well. Why? Because more people have computers that can do this kind of stuff. Even more will in the future. My computer from 1997 can bearly stream the sound, and it is nearly impossible to understand if they whisper. The pix.s only move every few seconds. Very annoying to watch on. My mom's computer - 2001/2 - is great. I can actually understand what they are saying (I suppose she has a better sound card and better speakers). And the video usually is real time. You can see everything very well. Also, $25 bucks is NOTHING compared to dinner and a movie out. It is incredibly cheap for the amount of entertainment it provides. As people's computers improve, this is a VERY viable source of entertainment, and therefore viable source of income for places like CBS.

Bbwannab

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 10:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You have a point Gina8642.....

**** This year they haven't been cutting to FOTH if:
(I saw all this stuff frequently cut last year)
-HGs discuss their participation in comp.s/ceremonies.
-HGs discuss folks outside the house, but aren't specific about that person's identity.
-HGs discuss strategy, including intended votes****


There hasn't been to many *FOTH* from this group, I think the reason is, cause they don't have many friends to gossip about. LOL.

But there has been tons of strategy, thats all they do...just sit around all day and pick the next person to lie to.

Delilah

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 10:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Gina, I agree with you and I am glad we haven't had as much FOTH this year. I really agree with you O_I though, this years HGs are very boring to watch compared to last years, but hey I am still watching and hoping something fun will happen....

Laisey

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 10:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think showing the competitions on the feeds would only help the show. When they had the yard full of pugs on BB1, I told people to be sure to watch the TV show because it was so funny.

Hobbs

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 10:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
We have gone way OT on this. My point was, why be silly and go to FOTH when BB talks to them or during competitions? We know that these people aren't really alone, so why can't we hear what BB says? And we know the outcome of the competitions and ceremonys and we still watch the TV.

That was the point of this. Not the rating of the feeds or tv show. I don't remember any FOTH during BB1.

Laisey

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 10:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hobbs, we had the chicken cam in BB1, but I don't recall it being too frequent.

Hobbs

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 10:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
YES! I hated the chicken cam. Thanks Laisey!

Bbwannab

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 10:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
BB 1 had the chicken.
BB 2 had can't remember, I think a pig or a dog?
BB 3 had the lizards
BB 4 has the turtles
BB 5 will get a stupid fish???
I think the pets are getting really stupid.

Gina8642

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 10:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Just imagine how boring it will be if Jack and Erica make it much farther. Hours and hours of 'studying'. Watching/listening to that stuff is MIND NUMBING. Now that Dana is gone, we will have 'studying' watch or the Jee3 swearing contests to watch. I've been so addicted to this show in past years, I wonder if this year is going to break me?

Saggkl

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 10:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thats because the pets match the houseguests.

Delilah

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 10:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Don't forget the backyard cam and the bedroom cam from BB2 (when BB closed up one of the bedrooms towards the end but let the HGs paint things on the wall) That was really frustrating, we could hear faint voices in the distance and all we could see was the camermen zooming in on the walls. BORING!

Delilah

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 10:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree BBwannab, why the heck can't they allow them to have a bunny or a cat or something? Maybe not a dog because of the grass. They could always check to see beforehand if the HGs are allergic to cats or rabbits. I am sure our Bunny would love a little *spy* in the BB house!

Bbwannab

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 10:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Really....in a few weeks, we might be begging for the *FOTH* just so we can have some noise.

There evicting all the people that are trouble makers, or some what interesting.

Maris

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 11:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I dont think a dog or a cat is a good idea. They get emotionally attached to their handlers and owners. I dont think it is fare to have an animal placed with someone and then yank them away after three months. Animals do pine away for their owners.

Bbwannab

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 11:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the next BB HG need a parrot. So they can train it to do some sort of trick or something, for their food for a week,
Or maybe a dog, and make them get the pooper scopper after it all day!!!

Bbwannab

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 11:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
They could get some dogs from animal rescue, and take care of them and get them ready for adoption.

That would be construtive, and give them something to do, besides whin and curse

Hobbs

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 11:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dave Letterman had a monkeycam years ago. They strapped a helmet with a camera on it to a chimp and he ran through the studio. Do you think we could strap a helmet-cam onto Robert? We all know how much they want to be on Letterman.

Delilah

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 11:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well Maris, one of the HGs or producers or something could adopt the cat, dog or bunny after the show. Gerry has the lizards and I am sure they have feelings too!

BB, I love the idea of a parrot! My Dad has an African Grey who is really smart and you really have to watch what you say around him, he mimics everything. LOL a parrot would spill the beans about all the alliances in the house.