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Faerygdds | Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 04:09 pm     I still like my idea... America gets a vote.. it counts as one (an extra HG)... in the event of a tie, it goes to America's choice, not the HG choice. And the HG would never be told we were allowed a vote. Think of the suspicion that would be aroused! |
Momiee43 | Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 04:12 pm     I think it would be wrong not to let the XHGs see DR tapes, as everyone knows when they go into that house there fellow HGs will decided who gets the CASH. I myself enjoyed watching Danni and Lisa sweat it out in the end. |
Lurknomore | Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 04:57 pm     Ok...assuming Arnie isn't gonna give us any say (which seems logical to me based on his viewpoint, not on any practical business dealings)what about if the evicted HG's form a Jury that is NOT kept in seclusion but instead gets to sit and watch the feeds with us. Then THEY get factored into an unannounced weekly vote some way. Maris, I see your point, and find it interesting. But keep in mind a couple things..first all the yelling and the debating on the board is our idea of bliss LOLOL. So this would be a good not bad thing right?! But I see some merit in your suggestions. Might keep both us and the HG on their toes. Only problem is if they are told of anyone outside of the house having any votes they will stop scheming aloud. Perish the thought. But might work if each was announed at the last minute and done creatively and most importantly SECRETLY to those in the house. They could never be told of it or they'd be playing to win that vote. Here's an idea to conteract that...not to mention drive up Real (or whomever) subscribers. How about if ONLY those registered and paying for the feeds get one vote per name after a secure log in? Would prevent those calling banks you referred to and might drive up online viewership. Why do I keep giving them ways to make more money? I must shut up now lol. And Granny hush now! You made perfect sense. But I think you missed my point. Say they sit down and SWEAR to each other they voted as they said...well if the eviction went differently I think they would start pointing fingers and mistrusting each other long before they figured out we were voting. Especially since they seem to cast star wannabees who call us geeks and have never seen 10 minutes of BB (Jason and Kent the few exceptions--and they probably slid by accidentally). |
Grannyg | Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 05:13 pm     I think the mods are probably checking into finding a supplier for prozax by the tank load. Fanny might could help out with that and I'll contact my secret source and see if they carry anything other than viagara!!
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Keiffer | Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 05:22 pm     You guys have got to remember that the commercials that hyped the BIG TWISTS last year resulted in the Veto. The "have America talking" line is so over used that I would not expect a large shift in the basicxs of the game from it. Maybe they thought the veto would add to the game last year, but excpet for Marcy there were no shake ups. I would imagine something muchb smaller occuring. BTW, do we now if they are going in a few days early this year before the feeds and shows start, or if they are going to bring the HG's in live on TV like the first year? I think we miss so much on the feeds when we miss the getting to know you stages. I am still unsure of how people would have viewed the HG's from 2 and 3 had the public voted, and the HG had known that the whole time. I mean, I think there is little doubt that Josh's behavior would have been different. Who knows who our favorites would have been then. |
Laisey | Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 05:37 pm     I, too, would like to see some of the power taken away from the HOH. I'd like to see the HOH name three nominees and the HGs told that a special secret panel would void one on the nominees (along the lines of the servants making the final decision on The Family). The secret panel would be those who subscribed to the feeds (at no additional cost -- sorry Arnold); after all, who knows more about what's going on. I'm not crazy about phone-in votes because those who only watch the TV show really miss a lot. Not that I would ever suggest the producers might have favorites and edit accordingly. |
Catfat | Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 05:52 pm     One of the most irritating things ever on BB1 was when George's wife had all their hometown folks call in and vote to evict Britany, voting dozens of times each. I still say it was because Geo's wife was jealous of George and Britany and their friendship, talking and laughing, dyeing hair, midnight confidentials, etc. And I don't blame her, that dork George was making an a%% of himself, and the wife was witnessing it all. George is one of my least favourite players of all time. The reason I am writing this now is because I feel that this tactic is cheating, even though the rules do not forbid it. I felt the same way about Ruben's friends and family calling in on American Idol, although I liked Ruben a lot. If AS wants to have a call-in vote, they should make it one person, one vote. Otherwise, the person with the most money and the most friends will win. But maybe that is the way of life anyway. Sigh. |
Laisey | Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 06:10 pm     This thought just popped into my head (there's a lot of space in there for impossible ideas). Internet voting during the live show. It worked for Star Search and you could only vote once. My fantasy would be voting for HOH, but reality suggests America's choice -- with decent choices (no grass, please). |
Grannyg | Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 06:18 pm     Did I get Modded? Or is it I can't spell? Or can't type? Or did I but a bad word in there? Yikes!!!!!!!!!!!!! BB4 is not here yet and I'm already in trouble. |
Lurknomore | Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 07:28 pm     Keiffer: 1) I actually agree with you. I think this HUGE jaw dropping twist will prove lame and uneventful in keeping w/bb tradition. And I would love to be proven wrong 2) We do not know for a fact we will even have feed access this year...we simply are assuming it. 3) My BIGGEST reply to your post...FAVORITES last year? I had no favorites. I had people I hated less than others. Even w/Jason who I liked best, I never got to see much personality or get to know him. Most of them made my skin crawl and I can't say any amused me. This board did...not them. And Laisy did you read my post? I suggested that only feed subscribers be given a vote. And Granny what DID you do? hehe! |
Maris | Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 07:36 pm     Jason gave me the creepie crawlies, that print shirt had to go. Now, live feed subscribers getting a vote, is a good idea. You are absolutely right lurk, bliss is onlyl four weeks away. lol. |
Grannyg | Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 08:17 pm     Well, Lurk, at least I got a wink. If you will look at my other post I put the word but instead of put. Is the p and b close on the typing board??? |
Zoo19 | Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 08:41 pm     I have mixed emotions on America voting. Even though I did't care for Will on BB 2 I still think he made the show interesting and really gave us someone to root for or against. If they did let us vote I agree with everyone else and they should allow 1 vote per phone call, internet vote, or for people who get the live feeds. As we know from AI and George that the block voting done by some could cause your favorite to leave. |
Starfire | Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 01:08 pm     I saw on another web sight someone posted they had seen where the BB4 house would be split into two sections. The rich side would have lots of food and be comfortable. The other side would be the poor side with straw to sleep on and not much food. That could make it interesting. The haves and the haves not. Like I said I saw it on another web sight so take it for what its worth. |
Pamy | Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 01:28 pm     I think that is how they do the one is Australia, not postive though. |
Faerygdds | Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 06:44 pm     Pamy... just to clarify... here is what they did in Australia... They had 2 houses.. the square house (so named because of the square picturs and motif... and the round house (same thing.. round windows, carpets, etc) They introduced 15 HMs and then admitted 5 to the square house and 1 to the round house. 24 hours later they admitted 1 each to the square and round house... then I think they admitted 2 tot he round house.. can't remember.. Either way.... they admitted all but 1 until there were 7 and 7 (with one mystery HM). Then they nominated. Turned out to be 2 nomed from one house and 3 from the other. Audience voted and only one left (from square house) They merged the houses at one point into one big house, switched 2 players at one time from each house.. they have done a lot of interesting things. Including having the first noms being people you want evicted and people you most want to stay in the house -- the people who got the least votes to stay were nomed (they only did this the first week though). |
Pamy | Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 08:20 pm     Thanks for clearing that up,Faery! |
Catfat | Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 10:51 pm     Dear Faery---Huh??? You are making this up, right? |
Faerygdds | Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 11:02 pm     Nope.. not making that up... it was really wierd how they did it... And I don't know about you, but *I* am certainly not creative enough to make up all those things. The funniest part was that for the first few weeks BOTH houses thought they were the "poor side"... thier showers were OUTSIDE, there was no spa or pool (which was between the houses and therefore uncovered at the merge), there was no kitchen - they had to cook on grills outside. The kitchen was also between the houses, as was the real shower area. It was really wierd... it was also funny to watcht he one guy shuffling around the house all by himself - bored to tears and wondering where everyone was. |
Beachcomber88 | Friday, June 20, 2003 - 08:24 am     OK, I just reread this whole thread, and I don't think I've seen my idea. I think the twist will be that at the midway point, all of the evicted houseguests will be brought back while all the ones still in the house will be sent packing. Yes, a bit unfair, but it would totally have all of us talking, and it would totally change the way the game is played. I know it sounds ridiculous, but that's my gut feeling. |
Peepinagain | Friday, June 20, 2003 - 01:08 pm     I think giving the live feed folks a vote is a great idea, of course keep the hgs in the dark about that. But I feel their opinion is worth much more informed than the tv viewing only public. I don't get the feeds but I read all the transcripts! |
Wilsonatmd | Friday, June 20, 2003 - 01:57 pm     the "rich side/poor side" thing was used for a time in BBUK last year (and has been done in other versions), and it didn't go off real well in the press and in the viewers eyes...the interactions were limited because they had put bars between the 2 sides, one week only one person was on the rich side, and the people who has been in conflict before the split were split up, thus there was no chance of continuing the conflict....and it actually lead to one of the contestants "escaping" (he had decided to walk, but he climbed up the wall on the outside of the house and went over the roof) Faery, you got most of that description right...they were going to introduce 16 people, but only 14 were actually going to go in, the other 2 were "human rumors":the publicity campaign for the series were based on rumors about what the show was going to do this season (the 2 people were told beforehand they weren't going in but got a reasonable payment for playing along for a week as people were sent in)...but one of the 2 rumor people had to withdraw literally hours beforehand, as he was a cop, and the force "recommended" he not go on the show (some say he was ordered not to)....and then later on 3 intruders came in to replace one of the players who voluntarily left (again, it was only going to be 2, but they had to add one) |
Bbfan05 | Friday, June 20, 2003 - 02:49 pm     They could do rich/poor in the house, but without the separation of HGs. They already started that a little with the HRD (High Rent District) all the way down to the army cots. They could do it extreme this year. |
Lurknomore | Friday, June 20, 2003 - 05:44 pm     Or how about having rich/poor switch every week, instead of that PB&J nonsense? But I agree with BBFan (we are on a roll here!) that if they do it they should still all be in the house or plots, alliances, romatic hookups, etc could all be lost. |
Tabbyking | Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 09:10 pm     i guess a good twist would be all the women think they are 'all that', and all the men are gay and in monogamous relationships back home. |
Honeybeebaby | Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 04:16 am     I read at http://www.bb4bbq.com/index.html that One of the twists is that some of the BB3 guests will be entering the BB4 house to hang out. Not sure if that is a fact but, that's what the above listed website says under BB4 spoiler Jokersupdate they posted this information they recieved June 21, 2003. |
Star291999 | Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 04:30 pm     What about this for a twist? The Africa and the UK houses are swtiching a housemate for a little over a week. This has been done before at other BB houses around the world. Begin Quote: The first BIG BROTHER swap occurred in May last year when Big Brother Mexico and Big Brother Spain traded Housemates. The feat was repeated in December last year with Big Brother Spain and Big Brother Argentina swapped Housemates. :End Quote This is from the Africa's BB site at: http://www.bigbrothersa.com/ You can also read about Cameron from BB UK going to Africa's BB House at: http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/index.html So they are saying 13 HG right, well there are several BB shows going on right now, there's the UK, Austraila, Africa, Germany, and one other I know for sure, but can't remember where. What if they switch with the Austraila house and that person is the 13th "new face"? While in this switch, the switched HG are given immunity for 2 weeks from being nominated and they still get to do their nomination for those back in their original houses. DK :p |
Maris | Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 04:35 pm     Forget Australia, I would love to see a German in there. Do they even have Peanut Butter in Germany? |
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