This is a big mea culpa to everyone here for the stupid things I said about Danielle
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Niceguy

Friday, January 24, 2003 - 06:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Back in the summer when I could afford the luxury of being self-righteous and expect my fellow man to try and achieve the greater good I criticized Ms. Reyes. She was on a game show trying to win. I find myself in my real life in a situation where I'm about to be just as duplicitous and manipulative as she ever thought of being. It sucks and I know that my motivation is self-centered greed. I apologize for a lot of the nasty things I wrote in this fourum. I hope I can get through this with a few threads of dignity.

Ryn

Friday, January 24, 2003 - 07:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow niceguy - hope whatever you are facing works out for the best for ya.

Wink

Friday, January 24, 2003 - 08:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So what Reality Show did you get picked for Niceguy?

Spygirl

Friday, January 24, 2003 - 08:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ditto what Ryn said...and a very cryptic post.

Grooch

Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 08:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Niceguy, I hope everything works out for you for the best. If you do plan on acting like Danielle, please remember the backlash she endured when others found out about her actions. And she was only playing a game, it wasn't "real" life.

But it takes a very big person to admit when they were wrong, esp when they don't have to admit it.

Good luck.

Maris

Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 08:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Why apologize for criticizing Danielles behavior? Why not rethink the behavior you are about to embark on. It is not true that Nice guys finish last. Be a niceguy and dont compromise on ethics.

Juju2bigdog

Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 03:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Uhhhhh ... Niceguy, any chance you could hook up a webcam and we could all enjoy your duplicity with you?

Maris

Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 05:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
there is an idea and charge all of us 9.95 a month to watch. I am sure someone would volunteer to do the live feeds.

Niceguy

Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 07:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Juju, Maris that's not nice. But it is funny.

I am trying to think this through. All the possible repercussions and everything.

Thanks for listening.

Sanfranjoshfan

Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 08:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Just a saying I once heard....maybe it applies here, maybe not:

A smart man learns from his mistakes, but a WISE man learns from the mistakes of others.

Maris

Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 09:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey Sanfran!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Long time no see. I didnt mean to offend Nice and if I did I apologize. But I do urge you to rethink your plans. Just dont get drunk and start singing I need sex in front of everyone.

Fruitbat

Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 09:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL!!!!!!!! Oh god, that is funny, Maris.

Squaredsc

Saturday, February 01, 2003 - 01:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
lol maris. niceguy, sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.

Catfat

Saturday, February 01, 2003 - 07:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Niceguy, I can empathise (sp?) with you. I started a business, a fine art gallery, and after a year I was doing very well. However, I closed the doors and quit because in order to sell artworks, I had to kiss up and be nice to people whom I loathed, people who represented everything I am opposed to. I hated myself for it and at the end I wouldn't sell to certain people because I didn't like them and told them they weren't good enough to buy my art. NOT good for business.
Now I am still dead broke but I have my principles.

Niceguy

Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 11:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank you all for listening. I just felt that I went overboard with some of the things I said about Danielle. Hey, I still find her very physically attractive but I think I saw a lot of negative stuff that I'm very capable of in a stressful situation and it bothered me a lot. As to my own situation...I'm going to be as ethical as I can be but what must be done, must be done.

Juju2bigdog

Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 06:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good luck with your situation, Niceguy.

Whit4you

Thursday, March 13, 2003 - 12:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Niceguy, do unto others as you'd have them do unto you. Don't know if your situation involves hurting or effecting someone else in a negative way but if it does, give some serious thought to how you'd feel if the situation were reversed. Also give some serious thought to others it might effect besides those *directly* involved. Six degrees of seperation is so incredibly true - you'd be amazed. Money or power gained is never worth it if you lose something within yourself in the process.


(Just my 2 cents based on knowing NOTHING of the situation)

Urgrace

Thursday, March 13, 2003 - 10:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
(((Whit))) I agree. Niceguy, Danielle did have principles and it sounds like you do too. Don't forget them.

Bastable

Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 09:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Random question, but I didn't want to create a whole new thread since there's so little activity here right now:

Remember how at the end of BB3, Lisa was hinting to Danielle and others that she had some kind of big secret that she hadn't revealed? What WAS that secret? What was she hiding?

Meme9

Friday, March 21, 2003 - 04:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Good question! I had forgotten about that. I hope someone knows the answer now.

Spygirl

Friday, March 21, 2003 - 07:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wasn't the secret that she had consulted a psychic before going into the house who told her she was going to win?

Meme9

Friday, March 21, 2003 - 08:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Spy. I do remember her saying that about going to a psychic, but I didn't remember if that was the big secret that she talked about. Guess I was looking for BIGGER. hehe

Keiffer

Monday, March 24, 2003 - 07:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There unfortunatly was not a bigger secret other than the fact that she felt she was supposed to win because a physic... unless of course they were able to hide things from us... of course that is possibel since we didnt get to see them on a web cam so much once Lisa had won.

As for being tough on Danny, I can appreciate that life experiences can give a person a different view of how they see things. A person who perhaps had a bit of a wild life in college for example might not think that Chiara's talks, or conversation topics, or experiences was not that bad, but a person who never experienced anything like that in their life might look negativily on it.

I just hope that there is a enough division in the personalities again this year to create the debate with people loving the Jason Daniel crowd, and hating the Chiara, Lisa, Roddy, Eric crowd.

Lurknomore

Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 09:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Guys...time seems to have made some memories slip here. Luckily those few brain cells of mine have amazingly hung in there to save the day LOL. Since we all know about the psychic that certainly wasn't it. Lisa cryptically said there was more than that psychic/snake thing and she would tell folks when they were OUT of the house. Given other comments she made around the same time many of us here felt, and I know I still do, she had an "in" to get on the show, since she had earlier admitted to not going through any typical audition process and later on to "knowing people." I've always assumed this is it.

Now to Niceguy...first remember your name (and if you are anywhere we would see you be sure to use it LOLOL). Second and seriously remember that it IS possible to be smart and get what you want without being dirty, on TV and off. I truly believe that.

I still say if Jason had only played his end strategy a little smarter he would have won. (IE folks needed to think that he WAS beatable at the end). He should have had more conversations with folks saying "hey, I know I don't have the Jury support cause I'm not really close to anyone, but...chatter chatter. Also he put all his loyalty eggs in one basket, and they got scrambled.

Back to real life...how often does a setback look and feel like a loss at the time only to turn into a stupendously wise choice and better situation down the road. Whereas lies and manipulation never pay off. I believe this and try really hard to live my life this way. That doesn't mean I'm not tough sometimes and lay boundaries, but there's nothing wrong with that IMHO.

Well best of luck with whatever it is, and thanks for being big enough to apologize to Dani and seeing more sides to sometimes motivations. The funny thing is I still think if she played just a tad fairer she has that game won. But she overplayed her hand.

Lurknomore

Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 09:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
PS ROFLMAO just saw the date of this thread...I feel like I came to the party too late

Jedisan

Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 10:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I would be curious to know...

How did it go Niceguy?

Tobor7

Friday, May 09, 2003 - 02:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Keep on keeping on y'all!