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Kappy

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"C1-are you speaking of actress Conchata Ferrell? Doesn't she weigh like 300 lbs?"

Castallinas ~ No, this was the older actress, Concetta, probably around 55 when she did the show. She was the older head nurse.

I was thinking Conchata first as well.

Sisalou

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL - Cameltoes!

C1mag

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 10:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah it's obvious that Erika will go. Here is Ali and Nates thoughts in regard to themself. As long as they aren't a target for nomination next week they have one more week to come up with another plan. Losing Erika suggests to them the guys won't target them as both Justin and Rob keeps saying they will go after Dana if they get hoh. Thats what Nate wants. No target on him. With Jack and Dave and Erika he would feel like a prime target and Ali the same way as she would have played both sides so they are gonna give them Erika and lay low if they don't get hoh. Now if either one gets hoh who are they gonna go after? Nate can't nominate Jack. Would he dare to put up dave? Will it be Dana? Does he have the balls ( NO) to put up Justin all on his own? I say he will play it safe and Do and Dana and Jun nomination and the whole house will relax for a week and get out Dana and then he and Ali will get to work on forming another plan to make each one safe and not a target if the don't control the next hoh. I keep thinking that we don't like it cause we don't like Robert but I sorta get where they are coming from in this case.

Gouraphik

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 10:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The irony is that if Jack, David, and Erika stay out of the loop on the new developments in the house regarding Alison's change of plans, they'll be the ones shocked and demoralized (enough to mess them up for the HOH competition?) instead of Jee, Justin, and Robert.

Whatever happens, it's gonna be good watchin' Wednesday night.

C1mag

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 10:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
yeah I know that Conchata lady is that rather obese redhead but no this conchetta is a thin woman. Same first name but I do know the difference.

Saggkl

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 10:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I really hope if they do that, Dave gets HOH and puts up Nate and Ally next week.

C1mag

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 10:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yep gour you are right.

Kira33

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 10:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Robert seems really distracted and anxious tonight...

Cameltoes

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 10:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I still don't understand their thinking because as I see it, a non-unanimous vote will lead to everyone's scheming being exposed anyway. I think all these deals are pointless and no one will stick to any of them.

Gouraphik

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 10:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It would be wise for Alison & Nathan to force a tie by having one of 'em vote for each nominee in order to put the heat on Jee. Even though it would really be the fault of the turncoat voters, it would probably feel more like Jee was to blame if he had to deliver the killing blow...emotions are funny like that.

Ideally, it would anger David & Jack so much that they don't even think about polling for who voted for whom. That way, they'd stand a better chance of staying under the radar next week.

Meggieprice

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 10:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There is no way that they would not try to find out who it was. That would be immediate.

Cameltoes

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 10:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The thing with Jack & Dave is that they don't generally give the impression that they are that secure with anything. They have doubts about Ali and Jun in particular. This is different than Jee & Co. who felt very complacent heading into Wednesday's eviction. I don't think the shock factor would be the same.

Trubycat

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 10:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jee, at least until tonight, thought it would be a unanimous vote. At the very least, Jee will wonder who turned and who he can trust. All they have to think about is the game. Outside of a few competitions each week, all they have to do is plan, think, scheme & forge alliances.

I don't for one minute think that any player wouldn't wonder what was up and who was to blame or who they could trust.

Cangaroo

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 10:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1...That's Concetta Tomei (no relation to Marissa Tomei)...she's been in quite a few movies...not as the lead, but usually as a supporting actress.

Gouraphik

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 10:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Meggieprice: True, but since ripping off David & Jack is a risky strategy anyway, Alison & Nathan need to try to muddy up the waters and hide their involvement as best they can. Getting them to focus on Jee & his crew would at least bide them some time, especially if David or Jack get HOH or veto.

C1mag

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 10:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I could say I don't get their reasoning but I do. They simply don't want to be a target come wednessday cause anything could happen with the hoh. They are scrambling and counting numbers and they are quietly doing a Dana. They are forgetting that the second they betray Jack and Dave they have targets on their backs. Why can't they tell themselves that as long as Erika stays in that jee and Robert would be preoccupied with getting out Erika still. They are only scared because they heard the guys and Dana would target them and they fear Dana most would get that hoh. They are forgetting that Dave and Jack could very well nail it. Then what are they gonna do?

Kira33

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 10:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dave just asked Erika (in front of Robert) "Will you eat my children?". Erika replied, "Only if you cross me David."

Trubycat

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 10:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I know the hgs can't see it like we do but the bottom line is that if Erika walks out the door, Dave and Jack are free agents who owe nobody nothing.

This is exactly what Robert and Justin want. They want to pick up Jack and Dave into their alliance.

So, no matter how Ali & Nate vote, no target will be removed from their backs outside of possibly Dana.

If they stick with the original alliance, they have some safety in numbers. The have would have a solid alliance of Erika, Dave, Jack backing them up. With Jee neutralized for a week, they'd only have to worry about Dana, Robert & Justin getting HoH. So it would be 6 against 3 going for HoH. Those are the best odds Ali and Nate are going to get for awhile.

With Erika still in the game, Dave and Jack are useless to Robert & Justin. They might try to go after Nate and/or Ali but they might also try to get one of them as well but once Erika is gone, Dave & Jack are ripe for the picking and more likely to switch sides than to go back the hands that bit them.

C1mag

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 11:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kira Dave is trying a little too hard to make it look like he doesn't care for her with that "children" comment he has suggested it twice.

C1mag

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 11:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Truby we see it that way but I don't think Nate and Ali see it that way. They would hope that the stooges would go after Jack and Dave. Thats where Nate and Ali fail to evaluate this thing properly. We don't get it but yet we do understand why they will evict Erika. It's the simple hope they won't have a target on them and they think by doing so they can con Dave and jack out of nominating them as opposed to Rob, Justin, and Dana.

Little side note... did you just hear Ali admit that she has "swallowed" in regard to .. well ya know. Dang that girl has been waaay too risky for this boy.

Trubycat

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 11:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I totally agree they still don't see it that way. And there's really no reason they should. But at least Jack/Dave/Erika fans should have some hope left if Erika does get evicted. Robert and Justin want a boys alliance and there's no reason to keep it from happening if Erika walks out the door especially if it is by a vote margin of more than 4-4 (Jee breaking tie).

The way I see it, if Erika is evicted, it will assure that most of Ali, Nate, Jun & Dana will soon follow. Which is fine by me.

Gouraphik

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 11:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually, if Alison planned it just right, her upcoming betrayal of the Dark Side/Elite 7 could be the opportune time to screw Jun over as well.

She's already been putting thoughts into people's heads regarding the possibility that Jun's allied with Jee. She could tell Nate to vote to keep Erika so that he wouldn't have to lie to Jack when he asks. She'd vote to evict Erika and let Jee break the tie. Then she'd lie, lie, lie and claim that she voted to keep Erika, allowing suspicion to fall on Jun as the turncoat. Jun's protestations would make her seem even more guilty, and it's possible that David & Jack might put either Jee or Jun up if they won HOH, since they'd be perceived as serious threats.

I think Alison's ruthless enough to attempt such a move if it pops into her mind.

Cameltoes

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 11:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Now what the hell is Nate doing telling Dana this... just trying to get her to vote Michelle out even though he will vote Erika out?

C1mag

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 11:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
nope he wants her to vote Michelle out so that when he votes Erika out they won't figure who betrayed them.

Kira33

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 11:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Robert just said that his father spent 8 months in Federal prison.