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Meggieprice

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 03:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I came in to hearing Dana whispering to Jun and then when Dana left Jun told Dave that Dana was grilling her about whether anyone was talking to her about voting out Michelle and that Jun told her no and Dana said "Not even Nathan?" and Jun told her no. Dave and she agreed they have to be very careful what is said to Dana. Jun said that Dana would hate her when it happens and Dave, wise as usual, said noone can really hate each other here because we will do what we have to do (paraphrasing). I am glad whenever I hear convos that affirm that Michelle will go. Before I just wanted that because I like Erika and I want her alliance to go far. Now I also feel that because Michelle is annoying me to no end. I agree with everyone-she IS too young to be here.

Meggieprice

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 03:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
By the way- what were the comments? I really hate to hear that because I am fiercely against homophobia and I dont want anyone I like to exhibit that...

Shadowed

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 03:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dave just imitated several voices from the Teen Girl Squad on http://www.homestarrunner.com which [for me personally] was just hilarious and great to hear someone imitate all of it.

Cameltoes

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 04:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, but Jun was worrying me earlier. I swear these people can't help but to second guess themselves to death. She was talking to Ali trying to figure out the possibilities if they kept Michelle - i.e. which alliance it would be better for them to stick with. "Do we want to be at the end with Jack or with Jee?" Ali said Jack and she ended the convo by saying that she was far more worried about Dave and Jack coming after them than about Rob & Justin.

Jun has been playing well but Ali is suspicious of her as it is so she could be outing herself too much right now. If she does have something going with Jee, it won't be secret for very long.

Shadowed

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 04:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Meggieprice - So far the only comment I've heard Dave make so far is that he made a joke about his own "fa**ot haircut", and that was a couple of hours ago when some of the HGS were lounging in the backyard, and talking about the various haircuts given in the house.

Jan

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 04:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LFP Seamonkey at 12:16Pm wrote the following (I think about Dave's Tie Dye shirt):

Dave asks if it looks like he's promoting the rainbow flag?? worried about a homo-based website.. they say he has no problem.. and it looks like a face (it does).

Cameltoes

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 04:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He also started this morning before the veto ceremony talking about his shirt and how it was like a rainbow flag and how he was worried about a "homo" site about him and said something about if he cocked his head a certain way, it would give the wrong impression. I know he was supposed to be joking but I didn't like the comments and he does seem obsessed with the gay thing today.

Kira33

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 04:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I heard Dave say that also....the only reason I don't get upset when Dave talks like that is because I heard him telling Amanda about how he's comfortable with his sexuality and how he doesn't understand why some men are homophobic, ec. I truly believe (and hope!) he's just kidding around, and doesn't understand how hurtful his comments are to the LGBT community.

Maris

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 04:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
well now you have Jee, Nathan and Jack discussing the origins of homosexuality. Now Nathan said, the Supreme court overruling the gay case in Texas just wouldnt fly in Oklahoma. They have a very conservative senate and they wouldnt have approved that overruling.

Hello Nathan --- The Supreme Court!!!!!! I definitely think the IQ test requires that these people be dumber than posts and totally clueless. I am writing this guy Nathans name down and putting it in a safe place (Watch him run for president in 25 years)

Meggieprice

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 04:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kira- hope you are right cause I like Dave...gonna have to keep a close eye on him now.

Maris

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 04:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yep Michelle is crying. Knew it wouldnt be long. Just took a little water.

Jan

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 04:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
meggie, another live feed post by HappyPixie, this time, at 4:24PM but Dave didn't seem to be a part of the conversation. IT's Nate and Jee that are the homophobes here:

cam 4 - Jack Jee and Nate chatting about putting kids in sports. Jee talking about a child being gay. Nate saying he would still love the kid but wouldn't let them - son or daughter - live in the house. It's not right to me, so I'd tell them that they have to live somewhere else.
Jee saying that's it would be painful to both the child and the parent. He doesn't know if he could accept it, but realizes that eventually he would have to.
Nate - I'm not that politically correct.
Jee - it's would be different if it was in your own family. It's never happened in my family tho.
Nate - same with mine.
Jee - do you think it's something you're born with?
Nate - I don't think God would let people be born gay, so it must be a choice.
Jack - I think it's a combination of both.
Jee - in my country it's not something that's condoned. Jack asks if it's could be a crime in Korea. Jee answers that he doesn't know but he wouldn't be surprised.
Jack starts talking about the laws on sodomy. He mentions a case that recently went to the supreme court. Nate mentions that it's different if it's in public or private, something about privacy laws. How conservative the OK senate is. Jack talking about privacy provisions that are inherint in the constitution.

Cricket

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 04:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Has anyone noticed how Robert has distanced himself from Jee today and is trying to mingle with the others?

Also, Jun seems to be gone a lot when serious strategizing is going on. Is that her game plan? Just let the others hash it out and then get the details?

Cameltoes

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 04:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I didn't hear Jack, Jee & Nate's convo but I agree that Nate & Jee are clearly homophobic.

Part of it with Jun is that sometimes she is intentionally left out of the loop because of how close she is (or seems to be) with Dana. Also, she does tend to limit her strategy discussions. When she does, she will try to plant seeds in other people's heads. I think this is backfiring right now with Ali because Ali is completely distrustful of her now. I don't know what is up with Robert. Dana seems to be trying to get information so maybe Robert is doing the same.

Maris

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 04:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes and when Alison told David to lay off Michele because she wasnt eating and was on the block, David said it will be much easier on her when it is time to go. So it looks like David is just trying to make her miserable so she doesnt fall apart at eviction.

Scorpiomoon

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 04:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I know this isn't the place for a discussion about whether homosexuality is acceptable or not, but after reading the posts detailing the convo between Jack, Jee and Nate, and I just have to say how DISTURBING it is that, in this day and age, people--PEOPLE IN THEIR 20'S!--would shun their own children just because of their sexual preference. I can't freakin' believe that! UGH!

Mrose4243

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 04:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, Maris, she will for sure fall apart at the eviction..she couldn't even make it through the nomination ceremony without losing it! ...and she even knew ahead of time that it was going to happen.

I'm a little worried about how this 19 year old 'innocent' is going to handle the shock..everyone has reassured her that's she's safe, even Allie who she trusts the most.

I find myself feeling really sorry for her.

Happypixie

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 04:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jan and Meggie - to clarify...When Jee Nate and Jack were talking about having to deal with having gay kids, I believe that Dave was in the backyard near them, but I couldn't see or hear him. He may have said/done something I didn't catch.

Maris

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 04:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Me too Mr, I think it is going to be one of the messiest evictions and the interview afterwords, forget it. I wonder if the girl could even make it through the interview with Julie.

Meggieprice

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 04:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Scorpio- you said it! Nate is very religious though, and that is a big part of some religions.

K9lover1

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 05:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Did you just see that shot of Jun's butt and her suit in her crack? How unattractive.

Zachsmom

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 05:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wonder if the camera man is from TVCH and will add Juns butt shot to the "Road Trip" thread?

Mrose4243

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 05:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My eyes popped out of my head on that one, K9! What are these camerapeople thinking??

K9lover1

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 05:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think I'll Michelle if she goes - way too immature for my tastes.

K9lover1

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 05:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oops type - don't think I'll MISS Michelle