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Jdctexas

Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 06:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, I have to admit, I loved the idea of bringing back a booted hamster to twist things around. It's a much better idea than the power of veto.

So, if you were one of the producers, what would you do to add a twist this year? I'll kick this off.

HOH: Make the person who comes in second in the competition eat PB&J for at least one day (if not the entire week). This would make me think twice about throwing the HOH competition...especially if I had to eat it for a week.

Twist on food competition for the week: Take each day for that week, have a full menu planned out of some REALLY great food (Maybe have a famous chef come in for an evening meal...I'm sure Food TV can spare one). If you win that day, you get the food for that day. Lose that day, PB&J or something along those lines. This may have been done already. I think oatmeal wouild be a good sub for the old PB&J standby.

Bring back a competition I liked: Remember in BB2 when they had the "Hometown News" competition? The winner and a person of their choice got a chance to go into the DR for 3 minutes and read all the HGs hometown newspapers. Personally, I'd like this one. Will won it, if I remember correctly and took Bucky (I think).

Therlin

Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 07:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I would make them vote in front of the other HGs. This would cut down the horrible and boring and never-ending strategy talk.

I would also make "big brother" less chatty and more "big brother"

Bbfreak

Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 10:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Good Idea Therlin, but then again, half the appeal of BB is the strategy talk and the back biting.
How about this?
At the halfway point of the game, have a reward challenge where the winner gets to view ALL of the diary room tapes of the player of their choice.

Zachsmom

Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 12:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought BB WAS about back-biting and stategy?!

oooooooohhhhhhhhhhh that would be goooooood!BBfreak!! But the winner also cannot say WHOSE tapes they watched! If they did ALL of THEIR tapes would be shown to ALL of the HGs!!

Marefromny

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 06:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, I'm not that creative, but I'm sick of the PB&J. It should have to be bologna or liverwurst or something!

Crazydog

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 01:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Instead of PB&J, the losing team goes naked for a week!

Happymom

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 01:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm a little sick of the pb&j too! Pb&j bothers me because it just isn't full of nutrition and so loaded with carbs.

The HGs have too much down time, give them more challenges, more interesting challenges, especially in the end. They sleep so much because it is just too boring in there. Maybe they should have more work to do other than just cleaning their house...not sure what though.

Bettyrubble

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 08:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Get rid of FOTH! Okay, not for everything I guess but at least not everytime one of them begins to hum.

I think they should have to use the POV. Or at least have some spinning wheel saying 'use it', 'don't use it', and 'up to the holder'. That would really put a kick in some of the strategies.

Jhezzie

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 11:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I would bag the veto thing. That was lame. I would, however, like the public to be able to vote weekly and have it count, but kept secret from the hamsters. They would still vote as usual, though. The HGs shouldn't be told because they will play to the cameras if they know about it.

Therlin

Sunday, May 18, 2003 - 05:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
BB is indeed about strategy but Danielle from last year wouldn't stop talking about strategy. She drove me crazy. I always made a point to change feeds if she appeared on the one I was watching. It was constant, non-stop strategy talk.

The HGs on BB1 got along so it was boring, but we got to know them and enjoy them.

I think that BB2 was the perfect BB. A nice mix of BB1 and BB3. Personalities, conflict and strategy.

Lurknomore

Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 01:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
(Saved my best for last so if you aren't in mood to read whole post just leap on down to that one LOL)

First I am wholeheartedly with the removal of PB&J. I've yet to see this have ANY interesting effect on the house. Only whining and that just makes for such interesting viewing NOT!

How about some diverse casting? (and I feel I can count on Arnie not to do it again this year). Look how interesting the Kent and Bunky show turned out to be, whereas either one alone would = a YAWN imho.

How about a challenge each week where some "random" couple plays alone and as a team for a reward. This could stretch over a few days, and should be done early on when there are lots of folks in the house. Thereby getting people who may not be tight with each other to have to work together and get to know each other. Might shake up some strategies.

Another big "twist" I'd like to see since the Arnie era is some actual REAL people, given this is reality TV...no more wannabee's. Fat chance I'm sure.

Lastly, I think they should have the HG's count for 50% of the voting, and America do the other 50%. Not only would it keep us interested, but if they are gonna earn yet more bux this is far better a way than that idiotic "America's Choice" question. Plus it will keep the HG's on their toes when votes don't go the way they think they have sewn em up. Oh yeah (DRUMROLL PLEASE FOR MY BIGGET TWIST)...they shouldn't tell them about this or we'd never hear plotting or strategy. Julie could just announce percentages or not give ANY voting specifics and tell them this at the very end when their beds are made, and of course during the post eviction interview.

I really love that idea cause it would shake things up and they would have no clue how or why , not to mention actually make it more interesting for us fans!

Lurknomore

Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 01:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ROFL Jhezzie...GMTA....I got inspired and posted my thoughts without finishing reading all of yours. I saw the Veto thing and just skipped the rest (the Veto always did bore me LOL). Just noticed it when I went to check my post showed up.

Ok, clearly we should be hired on the BB Production team :)

Draheid

Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 01:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jhezzie & Lurknomore: Love your idea of viewer voting & keeping it from the HGs. I see a lot of potential, such as when the vote goes in a direction different from what they believe it will, based on viewer voting. Imagine the finger pointing and distrust because someone 'apparently' didn't vote the way they were supposed to! Excellent potential for shaking up the alliances and undermining the plotting!

Peepinagain

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 06:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
A nice twist would be that each houseguest gets points when they lose a game and at the end of each week whoever has the most points is the one who will be nominated to leave. Of course HOH picks one and if there is a tie with points HOH will break the tie by picking one. That might help with HG's throwing contests.

Also whoever doesn't get sent home that week gets to be HOH the following week. Now that would blow most folks strategy out of the water. Because to be HOH you'd have to trust everyone to NOT vote you out so you could be HOH.

Peepinagain

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 06:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Addressing the viewer voting issue and not letting the HG's know until they left...

They couldn't let one come back if they did that. They could swear them to secretcy but they themselves would be acting different. Of course they could use that info to get others to say things that might get the viewers to vote them off. :)

Corriecat

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 09:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The PB&J definately needs to go. It isn't adding anything to the show at this point.

I think they could change HOH a little to make things more interesting. Have the best two scores win and get to stay in the room. One way to do this is have America vote for HOH so the houseguests can't throw it. Make a rule that nobody else can go in that room. Provide special meals and activities only for the 2 winners. Basically force them to spend time together away from the other houseguests. Depending on who the two winners are you are either going to have an alliance grow stronger with lots of time to plot and plan or two people who are not allied interacting where they wouldn't have normally. They could possibly form new alliances and pass accurate or completely false information to each other that would affect the gameplay. This could cause a lot of paranoia and speculating between all the other houseguests.

Peepinagain

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 11:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
As far as PBJ what do they do if the get someone in there thats allergic to nuts or has a wheat allergy so they can't eat bread? :lol

Lammy

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 05:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi. I am new here, but I have watched all 3 BB's, and can't wait for this one.

I would like them to forbid the "couples" to hook up for the first few weeks. Also let them bring back the banners, and whoever was yelling over the walls. I enjoyed that.

Crossfire

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 06:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi Lammy welcome to the club. You definitely want to hang around. We really get into it here, very robust discussions of every minute detail, live feeds, and just an overall great crowd to hang out with online.

Sure to be controversial, but I agree with you about the couples, and would not be terribly upset to see banners either though last year went pretty good without them. With all the goings on last year, we could have really stirred things up with a few well chosen messages. Hehehe.

Mware

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 08:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lammy, just a word of advice: Look up the word "aubergine" and form an opinion about it rapidly.

...Mware looks at his watch and counts down until Squaredsc smells the fresh blood...10...9...8...7...6...5...

Earthmother

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 06:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, if there is no back-biting I won't watch!! and if they are allergic then they need to make that perfectly clear in their application, cuz I get enjoyment watching them come unglued on PBJ week...(I am so evil).

Therlin

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 07:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I could live off PB&J for a week.

Jmm

Monday, May 26, 2003 - 07:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
YAY!!! The evil one is back.

Peepinagain

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 10:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What was the reason for not allowing them to look at the banners?

Ryn

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 12:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cause it took control out of Arnolds hands :)

The banners really caused problems during BB2 (with Nicole, and revealing Will's lies, etc) so Arnold said no looking at banners last year.