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Grannyg

Monday, June 30, 2003 - 09:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
and the more they can give us FOTH the better because we don't know what's going on behind closed doors. But yet they still take our money for the feeds and then through a legit reason give us the FOTH. BLAH!!!!!!

Tabbyking

Monday, June 30, 2003 - 09:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
yeah, the FOTH was because of disclosure rules and signed waivers. well, if tonya's ex had been in the house, couldn't she have talked about him, and he about her, nonstop without footage of the house? we probably will get it full force...which will bore the hell out of the other hampsters. and, you know how someone might not want a certain person in their life anymore, but they also don't want anyone else to have that person? so here they'll get to see that person maybe flirting with another hampster. i hope they have only plastic utensils this year! i am sure we will also get the 'he's so little!' and 'she's pms-ing all the time' comments.
i still think it's a goofy idea and when guessing what the twist would be, i thought of the absolute stupidest thing i could. who knew?.......

Peepinagain

Monday, June 30, 2003 - 09:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well if both ex's are on tv then there shouldn't be any legal problems because to be on the show you practically sign your life away. So probably no FOTH's just lots of Jerry Springer entertainment.

Laisey

Monday, June 30, 2003 - 09:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bearstuff, another bright spot: The ex's will have signed releases, so even if they're discussed before their arrival there should fewer FOTHs.

Bastable

Monday, June 30, 2003 - 09:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Let us hope.

I suspect that these exes are going to be talking so much about old wounds that we're going to start praying for FOTH.

Tabbyking

Monday, June 30, 2003 - 09:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
and some jack daniels!

Laisey

Monday, June 30, 2003 - 09:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bastable, LOL. Or . . . The ex's won't speak to each other. Those with ex's won't talk to the others with ex's because they won't get any sympathy. And those without ex's will run like the devil from the others because they don't want to get involved. And we'll be bored to tears.

Bastable

Monday, June 30, 2003 - 09:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah! Each room will have a HG sitting sullenly with his or her arms crossed, refusing to interact with anyone. For three months!

So when do the exes appear? Do they get shuffled into the mix right away, or do you think it will happen later in the game? Knowing what I know about AS, he won't be able to resist the ratings tease of delaying the moment. And I want to be able to see the ramifications on the live feeds! I'd hate for the fireworks to happen in the few days before the feeds begin.

Castalinas

Monday, June 30, 2003 - 10:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I love it! Unless it turns into an hour of reuniting in bed,(I got so tired of Lisa and Eric last year). But if the exes have restraining orders and cease and desist papers? Cool. Thank you Arnie and please don't bore me.

Laisey

Monday, June 30, 2003 - 10:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bastable, the press release posted elsewhere says fourth episode. That would be Tuesday the 15th.

Maris

Monday, June 30, 2003 - 10:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This twist isnt so horrible. I read on another board the variety release. The evicted houseguests who are going to be sequestered will be taped too so maybe we can get to see them on the live feeds. Also the youngest is 19 and the oldest is 59. There are no married houseguests. 8 of the houseguests are exes and the other five are not. the exes dont know that their ex partners are going to be in the house.

I really like the idea of watching feeds of the evicted HGs.

Laisey

Monday, June 30, 2003 - 10:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I also read the Variety article (it's on reality411). The sequestered evictees will get segments from the TV show, but nothing from the Diary Room. I didn't read anything to make me think the evictees would be on feeds, but we can hope.

Bohawkins

Monday, June 30, 2003 - 10:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This is actually a version of a concept for a different kind of reality tv show which has been talked about on message boards in various forms over the past few years... one idea was to surprise participants that their fellow guests were are all people from their past. There is a (very unwatchable) dating show that has several ex's advising the person their ex is taking out, by communication with text pagers and cell phones.

They just decided to reinvent Big Brother with part of the idea.

This certainly isn't BB the way we have known it. I am sure they producers had analyzed that the old format was running the risk of becoming very bland and predictable. It is something different.

However clever it seems, I agree with previous posters. Every time I have friends who start attempting to engage me with the "drama" about their ex's I do my best to change the subject. It's boring! However, talking about them and interacting with them may be two different things.

It might work, but it is very risky. As others here have pointed out they are counting on the two possiblilities, friction (even hatred) or rekindling (even back in the sack). But, what they may find is that when people's lives go on, they resolve the issue so that the other person becomes just neutral.

But, who knows? Maybe they have a great concept. The first days might be interesting.

Maris

Monday, June 30, 2003 - 10:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
the variety article said there would be another house where the evicted would be. It also said they would be taped for the tv show and basically would continue in a game mode. I am just hoping we will have it on feeds.

Tabbyking

Monday, June 30, 2003 - 10:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
so, wait, i was right about the exes AND taping the evicted, too? i guess i don't even need to watch the show, i can just make something up and it will happen...okay, i still say the '3rd hampster in the house wins it all'. if i'm right about that, i am going to vegas, or stealing ms. cleo's job!

Maris

Monday, June 30, 2003 - 10:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
you dont need to steal Ms. Cleo's job, I thought she was in jail. Her job is up for grabs!!!!!

Bmh

Monday, June 30, 2003 - 11:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Good Point Maris...I re-read the Variey Report and it does say after the 5th Houseguest is evicted they will be sequestered in another TAPED house where the jury will be kept from then on...It would be pretty cool if we could watch the jury as well as the houseguests on the live feeds. AS did say he would be using footage from the seqeustered house where the jury is kept for the BB shows so why not the live feeds??

I don't know I have been thinkin' it over and I am still not thrilled with the new twist but I am not as pissed and upset as before. 8 People 4 women/4 men are going to be ex's the rest wont and it will be interesting to see how the two groups react to eachother and how alliances will form.

I think we are in for a VERY interesting and exciting BB Season but I am still pissed that AS has screwed with the BB format and I believe took it a bit too far.

But I'm still gonna watch..and there better not be to much FOTH!!! It was awful last year!

Peepinagain

Monday, June 30, 2003 - 11:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Why would Ms. Cleo be in jail? She's an actress hired to be Ms. Cleo on TV, the actress doesn't own the company. The company was sued and maybe someone from the company is in jail if they didn't pay the fines, but the lady who portrayed Ms. Cleo is not in jail.

Bmh

Monday, June 30, 2003 - 11:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought Ms. Cleo ran the company?? And obviously she would be fined in some manner because she was still part of the scam no matter if she was just a actress or the head person in the company. I heard she was in jail, but Im not sure

Tabbyking

Monday, June 30, 2003 - 11:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
my ms. cleo would not be a scam. i already know i am psychic. or is that psychotic? never mind!

Peepinagain

Monday, June 30, 2003 - 11:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
There was a big whoop about Ms. Cleo but Ms. Cleo is an actress in NY that was hired to do a commercial. Thats all. The company was fined a huge sum of money because they were making calls to residents in NY who were on the do not call list (NY had this list before it became a national thing) it was $2000/call! Don't remember how much it ended up being but thats when it came out that the Ms. Cleo seen on TV was an actress hired to do the character, which shocked people because they thought she was the real deal. It makes me laugh because there are no real deal physics! http://66.227.101.70/otn/laughing/laugh2.gif

Maris

Monday, June 30, 2003 - 11:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
AS screws with the BB format every year and he always manages to bring out some great entertainment. I can remember all the moaning and groaning about the power of veto and bringing back an evicted Houseguest. Who can ever forget marcellas face when he did not use the POV on himself.

I suspect that this will all work out and come August we will all be saying this was the best BB ever. Look at it this way, with no spouses we wont have people crying to the producers for phonecalls.

Bmh

Monday, June 30, 2003 - 11:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL

Good Point there. I agree there is alot of potential for this to be a awesome season considering the ex's are either gonna fall in love again or just absolutely hate each other and plot against each other. Must think positively I guess.

Sbw

Monday, June 30, 2003 - 11:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I like the idea. I would watch a reality show with that premise. HOWEVER..... this is not the show I have been waiting a year to see.

Maris

Monday, June 30, 2003 - 11:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am betting that you will have people cutting deals with the five people who do not have exes to evict their ex first. It should be a real hoot to watch. I know that is what I would do.