Wilsonatmd | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 10:12 pm     The producers always have the right to alter the rules at any time and I bet the longer relase forms the semi-finalists signed had that clause in them, the site just gives the basic information.....The main reason most reality shows in the US have a 21-year old rule is because of alcohol...They'll have to watch it so the 19 year old doesn't drink is all. In some cases, it's required (Real World Las Vegas had to have 21 and higher people because you have to be that to work in most casino jobs)....but other BB's have had 19 and 20 year olds. |
Tabbyking | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 10:26 pm     they probably couldn't find enough suckers so had to include people under the age of 21 and people who were listed as needing to sign waivers so their exes could talk about 'em! lol, in all of america, they could not find a baker's dozen for BB4. next round i expect to see mike tyson, siamese twins and my 80-year-old step-father on the show! |
Cameltoes | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 10:54 pm     I guess I'm late getting the news of the new twist. I haven't seen the commericial yet. Based on what I've read, I don't like it one bit. I think it's much more interesting to see people who don't know each other form alliances and relationships. I am reminded of the last Real World/Road Rules challenge and all the baggage certain people brought with them. To me, the best drama is the drama we watch unfold minute by minute. I really dread watching a bunch of people rehashing their pasts together and alliances based on grudges from the past is just lame. I think this is the worst twist they could have come up with. |
Tabbyking | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 11:06 pm     if they found this kid at a mall, sounds like AS wanted some young eye candy and changed his age rules to fit her in. i'll bet a lot of people between the ages of 18 and 20 may have wanted to apply--but didn't, because they read the application rules. they may as well have just gone to belly's and yelled 'last call'... |
Bbfan05 | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 11:29 pm     hmm...Well, When I turn 18 I'll just show up and I'll impress them so much that they'll be like "As long as you don't drink, you're in." |
Sunshyne4u | Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 01:22 am     The "EX" factor sounds like a silly twist to the BB format. Like someone said earlier, everytime Tonya started talking about her ex FOTH!! The only way I can see this 'twist'as being interesting if the ex's are admitted into the house AFTER all the preliminary getting to know each other and bonding has occurred. It seems to me from previous years that usually occurs within the first two weeks prior to the first person actually being evicted and leaving. I could see an EX coming into the house after the first few HGS leave. That way the numbers in the house would stay constant...AND!! maybe the public will be voting on which EX will be allowed back in next. ******** I really dont see how having bickering fighting exes in the house will be entertaining. What I found the most interesting in the previous three seasons was how people HID their true personalities and eventually would start to crack, unable to keep up the subtrifuge(sp?) The way Roddy was able to manipulate everyone is a classic example.....everyone individually thought he was wonderful. I still recall being up at 2am listening to him just working it with Amy, trying to convince her that she really wanted to use the Veto on him. WOW, he could have won an award for his ability to twist people around so that they didnt know if they were coming or going. Having Exes on the show will ruin these spontaneous conversations as everyone will have a "heads up" on the real personalities. IMHO |
Therlin | Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 05:51 am     The rumor on another board, which makes sense, is that the 19 year old is the ex of one of the other HGs. Otherwise he wouldn't have been allowed to play. The 19 year old was approached at a mall by the casting people. Which kind of supports the story since the exs are not supposed to know that their ex is already in the show. Does this make any sense? I hope it does. |
Dallasbbfan | Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 05:57 am     The Dallas Morning News reported this morning that the exes are ex-boyfriends and girlfriends who have no children. It also states that backgrounds were checked to make sure no domestic violence was involved. We'll just have to wait and see what Smoking Gun digs up. |
Grannyg | Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 06:20 am     Therlin, I said the same thing in one of these threads that I thought the 19 year old would be one of the ex's and that he/she would be the one to walk out the first night and therefore the under 21 would be out the window. Then the alcohol wouldn't be a problem. If they are the first one out the door on the first night. AND AS probably knew that this one would be out the door on the first night since he says one may walk out the door on the first night. Therefore creating more drama on the first night to get everyone hooked. |
Kaili | Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 06:39 am     But the exes that come in will also be competing for the money right? So even if they didn't apply, they will have motivation to stay in it. I think it will be interesting and probably a good watch. Not Springer-ish because Springer is just too crazy. Probably more Jenny Jones-ish. All I hope is that it isn't a lot of bed snuggling, because I personally didn't think it was fun or cute to watch Eric and Lisa in bed whispering for hours on end. Maybe they casted hoping for hook-ups between the ones without exes and the exes. I think chances are that the women will stick together and the men will stick together with this format. I also wonder how recent these break-ups are. I'm sure we will find out through conversations. Or we won't because we'll get FOTH while they discuss circumstances involoving other people. Grrrr. |
Ginger1218 | Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 06:44 am     We don't know if the 19 year old is a male or a female, so we can't jump to any conclusions. |
Therlin | Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 06:56 am     The exes do indeed compete for the money. They are contestants. I just think that they won't enter the show until the 4th or 5th show. That way AS can milk the twist for a week and hopefully we'll get to watch it live (yeah, right, we'll get FOTH so that we have to watch the reactions on the TV show) |
Kaili | Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 07:47 am     If they don't enter until later, why would someone walk out the firts night? Maybe they will introduce them one at a time? I don't think the thought that an ex might enter the house would be enough to make anyone walk out. Plus that would mean only 9 people going in at first. It would be fun to have them just told that some of them will be having exes enter the house, then watching them talk to eachother about their various exes. The 5 taht don't get exes re-entering probably won't be told that so they would be thinking about it too. It would get some good conversations going, good insights into the people and their "outside" selves. Hmmm... I am looking forward to this now...  |
Laisey | Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 07:57 am     I've been wondering how this is going to play out and my brain is beginning to feel like Kista on beer and Nyquil. I think it may go something like this: I've read that the HGs will find out on the first show (Tuesday)that exes (but not whose ex) are coming into the house. I've seen nothing about the first show being live so the HGs could be told any time after they enter the house. My guess is the first show will be short bio-type intros to the HGS, entering the house, finding bedrooms, etc. In other words, all the usual. I think the show will end with the HGs being told and close-ups of their faces. The second show should be the live show. I figure plenty of film of the HGs's reaction to the twist plus whatever they do live, probably the HOH competition. Since the next two shows are not live, the exes could come in any time after the end of the live show (7:00 pm BB time). Hopefully, we will have feeds at that time. Friday's show could have a cliff-hanger ending with the exes standing at the door and the HGs hearing the doorbell. Here's the confusing part. I think Friday shows are suppose to include nominations and the exes won't be shown until Tuesday, so what will happen. Assuming there is an eviction the second week and the exes are eligible for nomination, they could show the nominations at the end of Tuesday's show and cover reactions at the start of the Wednesday live show. I hope they don't do the first eviction with only the original nine eligible. Does any of this seem logical to anyone and what are your thoughts. |
C1mag | Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 08:11 am     Remember that the first show is not necessarily their first night in the house. what if at the end of the first show they will go live and that is when the remaining players ( the ex's) will come walking out of the DR? Talk about a mad rush to get the live feeds if that happens. So for about a week 9 of them have gotten to know one another knowing that the other four will be arriving soon. Then on the first live show the remaining players arrive and the SHOCK of it all begins and the tv viewers are told to stay tuned.... That would be GREAT because we would be able to pick up the shock of the arrival right after it airs the first night and see how they all take it. My understanding is that none of them know. Not even the ones that will be arriving later on. I do not think they will have the "exs" arrive one by one week after week. I think it will all happen at once. Now this moment would make having the live feeds worth it all if this plays out this way. |
C1mag | Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 08:15 am     hmmm... maybe I read some place that the ex's don't arrive until like the 15th? I don't know. I'm still mad at A.S. for doing this to my show .. grrrrrr.... I hope he knows what he's doing! Anyway, I still think they will arrive all at once. Perhaps after the first eviction the doorbell will ring and someone will go answer it and there they are. Heck I don't know. let's just get on with it already LOL |
Laisey | Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 08:28 am     I read an article somewhere that mentioned they would come face-to-face on the fourth episode which would be Tuesday the 15th. That would mean they could come in anytime after the preceding live show. It probably all depends on how much time they want to create a great soap opera for the Tuesday show. |
Naja | Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 08:42 am     I just thought of what would be really neat. If they brought in only 1 ex at a time (with maybe an hour or 2 between each one arriving) and you could watch all the other HG's squirm/wonder/worry if one of their ex's will be next thru the door. |
Laisey | Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 08:50 am     Naja, I think that makes a lot of sense. It would give them a great chance to get closeups from different angles that they could edit, rather than trying to get good shots of eight people all at once. |
Therlin | Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 08:53 am     Of course the HGs will wonder why there are extra beds in the house. I hope they don't just lock a bedroom. It'd be interesting if two exes have to share the same bedroom. |
Laisey | Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 09:13 am     Therlin, they could tell them about the twist immediately since they are going to know before the first show airs. I think this is pretty likely since there is not only the question of the beds but also the question of how 9 people could keep a 3 month show going. If they aren't smart enough to wonder about that, it's going to be a bad summer. |
Therlin | Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 09:20 am     Or maybe they'll just say "other HGs will be joining in a few days" Of course if AS says that people may not even last a day, then maybe they will be told. |
Grannyg | Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 09:27 am     Well maybe at the end of the live show on Wednesday the ex's start arriving and for tv viewers they wouldn't see the reaction until Tuesday which is when the next show airs and it is one of clips that happened the few days before. You know the live feeds are never advertized on tv so if people just watch the show then "they" won't see them until Tuesday but with live feeds we might get to see what happens Wednesday night. |
Laisey | Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 09:32 am     If I remember correctly, he said something about someone possibly not being aroung after the first show so that gives them about 4 days to play with. I've decided that we need dual personalities. One personality that thinks in real time 24/7 and a second personality that only thinks in terms of the TV show. That way the second personality would process all information issued by AS since most of the time he doesn't seem to give the internet viewers a thought. |
Bbfan05 | Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 09:39 am     Well, what are the exes thinking? They should know from way before they went into the house that Big Brother 4 started airing on July 8, and they're not coming in until days later? One would think that they would be wondering about this. |