Meggieprice | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 07:23 pm     Now Dana is acting like she was lying to Dana but she is not actually relating the true conversation so I have to wonder about her. She is lying to them about what she and Dana said. |
C1mag | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 07:24 pm     Ok see Jun and Ali are telling Erika to her face they are keeping her and they are being honest about conversations with Dana. It's just a game to keep it from the stooges so I'm not worried. So RELAX plus I told you from 8pm to 2am Michelle goes. LOL |
Kmjm | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 07:24 pm     Right now Ali is telling David, Erika and Jun all about her conversation with Dana. She's telling the truth as far as I can tell. I think Erika is OK. Well, at this minute anyway! |
C1mag | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 07:25 pm     Meg what is she lying about? |
Meggieprice | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 07:26 pm     Ok, I told myself that I would not get this involved and not care. I have not done any work today. Ok, I do try to take Sunday off but this is rediculous... |
Cameltoes | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 07:27 pm     Dave has always wanted to bring Dana in on it but I think this is a bad move. Dana wil definitely run to the stooges with this info. She'll figure the rest have been keeping info from her anyway and aren't watching her back and she won't be any worse off by telling them. |
Meggieprice | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 07:28 pm     C1- she told Dana she wanted to keep Michelle, and she told Dana the vote will be close- that was the first hint to Dana that anyone will vote to keep Erika- and it was a major leak of strategy. Now, could be she did it to see if Dana tells the stooges...but she also said to Dana she is voting to keep Michelle. |
C1mag | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 07:29 pm     It sounded to me ( based on the live feeds I've been reading) that she was being honest. In that house you are gonna have to lie to someone like Dana. It's like I keep saying.. after knowing that the stooges are targeting you for eviction there is no logic in keeping michelle now. You gotta keep reminding yourself this is a game for half a million. Not a love fest. Who cares who you end up with in the final four as long as it is you and you covered your back by eliminating the right people and keeping the ones that will work with you and I think Ali relizes that. Jun is the one that thinks on the grounds of who she wants to hang with for 3 months but also she would never control Jee if the stooges aren't broke up. Erika is key in helping to brake them up. Not michelle. AND just what are these three gonna tell Dave and Jack if they don't keep Erika? They would have not only the stooges out after them they'd have those two guys voting to evict either one of them as well. Go with the numbers. |
Cameltoes | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 07:31 pm     What worries me about the girls is that Jun was planting seeds and maybe it got into Ali's head that Erika should go. On the plus side, Ali thinks Jun is totally shady and does not trust her for a second so hopefully any seed-planting didn't make a dent in Ali's strategy. I'm sick of how freely people in this house say F****t. |
K9lover1 | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 07:32 pm     Excellent point C1. If they don't keep Erika, Who do Ali and Nate think they will align with? Robert?? Jee? Justin?? Dana? They almost have to stick with them or they are hanging themselves out to dry. But.. they would be the smart thing to do at this point. Brains aren't exactly in an overabundance in the house this year. |
Kmjm | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 07:32 pm     Dana is now having paranoid conversation with Robert on feed 3 in the hottub. I can't make it out very well- anyone else? |
Costacat | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 07:32 pm     Nope, Kmjm. Too many bubbles... |
Meggieprice | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 07:33 pm     I needed that C1- you are forbidden from going out and not posting for that long...OMG, what did I say? I need to take a break from the feeds right now and watch a Columbo with my DH and DS, so you guys better keep me posted because this is unhealthy! by the way this homophobia is really bugging me... |
C1mag | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 07:33 pm     But common sense says that the so called "dark side" will throw Erika a vote or two. Even the stooges know this and that was the only group that Ali referred to when telling or suggesting that some would vote for Erika. Maybe she was scaring Dana a bit on purpose. God knows jun loves screwing with Dana as well. Plus this makes it look like Ali is unaware of the so called new alliance that Dave and Jack have faked with the stooges. I guess I'm taking a differnt look at all of this and I am counting on logic for this vote and Erika will stay for numbers sake. |
Sisalou | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 07:33 pm     Well, I can't hear that great anymore but Allison didn't exactly tell the truth to Erika/David and Jun. I understood her to tell Dana that she had been approached by "the others" to vote Michelle out. It wasn't just Erika that asked Allison to oust Michelle. She also told Dana the vote would be close and then Dana told her the house would be divided after that. But, be warned that I am on pain meds right now so I could be hallucinating.\ |
Sisalou | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 07:36 pm     C1 - I sure hope you are right. |
C1mag | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 07:37 pm     and as I am catching up I also can't believe all the homophobia being displayed as well. Arnie sure picked some ignorant people this year. I just shake my head on that issue and the comments I'm reading in the live feeds. Nate doesn't surprise me with his comments and it makes sense based on the way that he describes his perfect mate and the mythical mold she will fit. His ideal mate doesn't exist. He describes her as basically a submissive Barbi who likes to play tennis. Wait til barbi has kids and gains 50 to 80 pounds she can't take off so easy. Wait til he sees barbi without makeup. Wait til... Well you get the idea Hahahaha! |
Meggieprice | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 07:37 pm     Was anyone able to hear the hot tub convo? Ok, yeah, I am still here... C1 I hope you are right but I am not so sure we can count on this bunch for reason. |
K9lover1 | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 07:38 pm     I'm going to put my life on the line here, but I feel kind of sorry for Dana. I think she just wants to be liked so bad and that accounts for her behavior of siding up with the jerks. At least they pretend to like her. |
Trubycat | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 07:39 pm     I think Dana already knew it would be a potentially close vote. I read somewhere that she relayed to Justin or Robert that she still had Jun so the worst it would be was a tie that Jee would break to keep Michelle. But then again, Jee said his stuff about it being an 8-0 vote against Erika earlier today and the convo I'm think of was yesterday early in the day. The only one I'm worried about anyway is Jun but I think she will vote in her best interest. Even if she goes against Jee/Robert/Dana/Justin, she won't be their target. If she goes against the originals she WOULD be a target. Probably more so than Dana since she's been pretending to be with them all this week where as everyone knows about Dana. That would be four people totally against Jun versus maybe one person (Dana)against her if she votes out Michelle. I might be more worried if they hadn't shown the DR stuff about Jun saying she just wants to keep Jee around in case her other alliance doesn't pan out. |
Saggkl | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 07:41 pm     Sisalou, that is what I heard also. That is why I posted in conversation thread was Allison being truthful about what she told Erika, David etc.. in the kitchen. |
Cliotheleo | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 07:42 pm     Can we PA-LEEEZE send a banner for Dana saying, "Yes, they DID play basketball last season!!!!" since she's convinced otherwise? I don't know why she thinks any boy in his right mind is gonna have court and a ball and NOT use it! That just doesn't happen. She just proclaimed BB4 to be "the most creative, most active cast ever!" ??????????????? |
Saggkl | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 07:43 pm     Maybe she was coating the truth because people seem to think she does not trust June completely anymore, and June was there too. |
Cameltoes | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 07:43 pm     Also, I'm now totally convinced of a Jun/Jee alliance of some sort because when Jun was going through the possibilities with Ali, she didn't say "would you want to be in the finals with Robert or Jack", she said "Jee or Jack". Now of the 3 guys, obviously Ali wants no part of Justin but Robert is the least likeable (they even said yesterday how sheisty he is) so why would she use Jee's name and not Robert as a counterpart to Jack? Ali seems to have good instincts for this kind of thing and she thinks they have a deal. I just wish we had feeds the first 3 days. |
K9lover1 | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 07:45 pm     I also heard some comment in the house that made me think there might be a secret alliance there. It was something subtle and I can't put my finger on it |