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Kappy

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag ~ re: China Beach ~ Wow, I watched that show all the time and I had no idea Ricky Lake was on it! But no, I don't think Erika looks like her simply because she is about 30 years younger, lol, so I can't see it.

Saggkl

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Nate and Allison are a perfect match. I hope whoever wins HOH next week puts those two up. They are not in anyones alliance. Allison has a Durecell bunny mouth. Just keeps on going.

Meggieprice

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I knew when Ali lied about what Dana and she had said to each other much earlier tonight to Dave and Erika that she had turned. Sigh. This is not good. I just like watching much better when the people I hate are not in control.

Jpgramma

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
At this point, I want to see Ali out more than I want to see Dana out. I can't recall being more annoyed with a HGs behavior than I am with Ali right now. I don't think she even knows what she wants other than to be adored by all men everywhere. She and Dana are really a matched pair. They give women everywhere a bad rap.

Sisalou

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I know C1! She is really p&**&* me off. If Erika goes this week I hope that Jack and Dave do align with the exes. ( I always reach this point in every BB cause these hamsters make me so mad!)

Meggieprice

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Absolutely- if Erika goes I want Ali gone asap.

Cameltoes

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If that's what she's doing, it is incredibly dumb. Jack and Dave just will not be targets. Too many people will have lied to them. The liars and double dealers will be the targets. If she's so worried about Justin or Robert getting HOH, what the heck does she think is going to happen if Jack or Dave get it?

C1mag

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the reason Ali is gonna evict Erika is that she feels she can play the game manipulating the stooges and if you think about it if the stooges go she can't exactly manipulate the females the same way. Remember this is through the eyes of Ali not the way we would like it to be. I am convinced that unfortunately erika is going. Ali weighed her possabilities of getting nominated next week and having dave and jack pissed at her vs justin, robert, jee and dana pissed at her made her go for evicting Erika and she is now securring safety in advance and suggesting the next to go have to be Jack and dave cause she will not be in good graces with them anymore after she lied to them. She is now n seeing which of the stooges she can manipulate to get closer to the prize. Prediction... Erika is gone! Ali trying to work the men is better in her eyes than letting Jack and Nate control the outcome of the game.

Saggkl

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Much as I dislike Robert. If Allison and Nate pull this maybe David and Jack should go with them get the others out and then fight it out amongst themselves.

Maris

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well if she votes Erika it will bring Michelle over to the stooges side. So you will have Justin, Robert, Jee, Michelle, Dana, Alison that is six chances in 11 that they will win HOH. I am betting Jun would jump ship very fast and move over to the stooges which brings it to seven. Out of those seven Jun, Dana, and Alison probably have the best chance of HOH. On the other side, David is probably the only one with a good chance at HOH.

Remember HOH is live which generally means the HGs have to rely on their observations and recollections. Most of the guys do not observe or keep on top of who is doing what.

It might not be such a bad move for Alison and she puts the screws to David and Jack which is something she has wanted to do.

C1mag

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah Erika will be evicted. As viewers we are just gonna have to suffer through that.

Cameltoes

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I feel the same way Saggkl and I think that is exactly how it would go down. There is an extremely sexist element with the stooges (and most of the guys in the house really) and they won't have any part of Ali manipulating them when they can have Jack & Dave on their side. I predict Ali goes right after Erika does.

Meggieprice

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If I see on the East coast spoiling that she is gone on Wed I don't think I will watch. Hearing it described will be enough.

Cricket

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just posted about this in "Interesting Conversations" thread. What in the world is she doing? Now she is shaving Nate, with a razor...oooh!

She kind of hesitated when Justin said he would talk directly with Nate. Said she would deliver the message herself. In spite of what she said in the diary room, I overheard her and Nate say at the beginning of the show they were lucky to find each other and would be cool until the show ended because of what happened to the other couples.

If she is trying to play Nancy Drew with the Stooges, she gave way more than she got. Darn, just when Robert was contemplative all day as if his bubble had been burst. Stupid Ali!

Poor Erika.

Cameltoes

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Can anyone make out what she is whispering to Nate? Nate said he wasn't talking to anyone because he knows what he's doing.

C1mag

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well look at it this way. Very soon they all start evicting one another and that will be a house on fire. So it will still be fun. Look for ones like Michelle, Jee and Jun to do real well if Erika goes because the strong players will keep targeting the strong players and pretty soon the weak quiet ones in the background will prevail. Don't be surprised if the final 3 are Michelle, Jun, and Jee and don't be shocked but Robert as well. Don't forget he is Jee's righ hand man. All these other mouths will at some poit play themselves out. Dave may surprise us all and end up protecting himself with multiple hoh wins and pov victorys. The rest will go down at a certain point.

Castalinas

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hate this but not surprised. For all the plotting, nothing is ever really done. Week after week the villians stay and get stronger, It was the same last year.

C1mag

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Camel I thought he said, "I'm not talking cause I know I'm going up" I could be wrong. I am totally confused with Ali today. She is playing both sides. Again why she would try to get protection from being nominated next week before the vote goes down still yells... ERIKA IS GOING OUT! because the second Michelle would be evicted she would be a target with all those guys so why waist your time sucking up unless Erika is going and she is looking to protect herself in the event she doesn't get hoh on wednessday. Why she is even talking to Nate about it anymore is beyond me. She has already revealed that Nate is in it with Jack. We know how she is voting. Ali is playing for Ali and she has jumped ship. The games will continue we just don't like that Robert got what he wanted.

Subnote: Don't be surprised if the dr isn't influencing all of this as well. We were STUNNED when Jason didn't even nominate Roddy that one time and gave some stupid lame reason. I said then that the DR probably reminded him of it. Remember to them this is a tv show and they need folks like Michelle for eyecandy.

Kappy

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, the only positive thing I can say in Jee's plans is that if he and Robert did make to the end, he knows the rest are going to be sick of Robert. Always take someone hated to the end with you!

Pattie555

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
After watching Ali tonight I know it doesn't matter who leaves. She has sided with both sides and they will all be mad at her. Best thing she could have done is keep quiet.

C1mag

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kappy I thought of that scenario as well.

C1mag

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
See and now there is paranoid Nate right back in there asking... "are you gonna put me up?" USELESS question!!!!!!!!!!

Nate will also vote to evict Erika as well thinking the next target is anyone but him if he gives the stooges Erika. FOOL!!!!!

C1mag

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
and Ali will tell Nate she is gonna evict Erika because she wants the vote to be read as a tie so that Nate has a bigger target than her.

C1mag

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I still say that if Dave gets hoh after Erika is gone that you will watch both Nate and Ali come to him and say, "hey we are still together aren't we?" This is a stupid move with so many variables I guess it makes it interesting but the only real bad part is the nose pickere got what he wanted UGH!

Cameltoes

Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As to the DR: Michelle leaving would give the show the prolonged drama it sorely needs. Setting aside the feeds, the show itself is significantly inferior to last year's. Michelle doesn't give them the kind of DR stuff they need to keep things interesting. She's eye candy but she has added NOTHING to the plotting & scheming going on in the house. So they get her in a salad bikini and Dave teasing her - whoopty doo! As far as the show viewers know, everyone wants Erika gone so most of the house voting her out would be extremely predictable.

I can't take these people much longer. Nate was cool all day and one word from Ali and he is freaking out again. I'm just rooting for them all to spontaneously combust.