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Lurknomore

Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 11:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Does anyone else here still get the TV guide? One way to find out if this is true is to see if it's really in there lol.

I gave up the TV guide after it cost more than a
Cappuccino lol...also they added so much they nuked the reasons I bought it (to read about the shows..they just listed them and I can do this online FREE :)

And Tabby intersting idea with the separated couple...I like it. Would be interesting! (so probably won't happen lolol).

Roteach

Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 11:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lurknomore, I also gave up on TV Guide. I read it online. I am so looking foward to BB4 and I am still trying to figure out the twist. I enjoy reading all of your speculaitons. I swear they should hire us to write/create realilty programming.

Naja

Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 11:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I personally like the Mole copy idea. A planted fake houseguest to stir the pot. But I think that would entail changing all the other rules too much in order for them to make sure the Mole person sticks around. I guess we'll know for sure tomorrow! :-)

Grannyg

Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 11:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I get TV Guide but haven't gotten the issue for the week of BB4. I should get it tomorrow and I will certainly check it out. I went to the online and nothing was there about BB4 so I will have to wait until I get mine.

Tabbyking

Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 12:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i couldn't find anything online, either...i guess we are supposed to find out the big twist tomorrow. personally, i think AS reads our posts and makes up his mind what to do at the last minute! for example, he may have thought he would do a certain thing and then read our posts about, 'if AS trades a houseguest with someone from the UK or something, that would be stupid', so he quickly tosses that idea, as if he never had it. then on to the next idea--put baldwin and bernsen back in the house. then he realizes they were never in the house, and he is confusing it with the Mole. so then he gets the idea of having a mole in the house, but isn't sure hampsters and moles can co-habitate, so he goes to a long lunch and has 7 or 8 martoonis, carnitas with extra tapatio and ends up with a stomach ache and severe 'diary-room'.

Tabbyking

Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 12:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
the only thing with having the 7 voters sequestered and not able to see the houseguests from that point on, means they will be voting for the houseguests based only on their time with them. if the person got really nice or really evil after that point, the evicted person wouldn't know it--because if the evictees were talking among themselves and the newest evictee badmouthed someone or complimented someone still in the house, would it be only that newest evictee's impression of that person, or had the person changed? can the newest evictee convince the evictee who's been out the longest that a sweet-natured someone had turned into the debil since they left?!
i think we should be able to see the sequestered houseguests 7/24, too, to see what lurks in their minds. only they don't know they are being filmed!
if i were going into the house, i would be totally reading this and every other board that discusses big brother before i went into the hotel and then the BB house!

Themessenger

Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 02:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
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Clp

Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 02:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Some more info from Arnold;


Quote:

Arnie Shapiro Speaks in Soap Opera Weekly - 6-29-03
"We've got some surprises [including] the single biggest surprise that we've ever presented on any Big Brother," teases the reality game show's executive producer, Arnold Shapiro."
"This year, for the first time there will be 13 houseguests not 12," he previews. Although he declined to explain the addition, he continues, "We've also have the youngest houseguest and the oldest houseguest we've ever had." One is male and the other female."
"The veto power is back, but with yet another twist."
"Shapiro notes that ousted players will not get the chance to return from the real world, as beer guzzling Amy did last summer, "because everyone's expecting it"


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Also scrolling across the top of Reality411


Quote:

CBS will not confirm or deny that ONLY 9 of the houseguests will be revealed on July 3rd ... New surprise twist to be revealed along with house tour on June 30th.


Shadowkat

Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 02:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The TV Guide description that has been talked about is online. If you go to the July 8th schedule and click on Big Brother 4, the description they give is as follows:

"Big Brother 4
60 min.
The reality series begins its fourth edition with the promise of a “shocking twist” that could mean that some of the 13 houseguests won't be sticking around. “It will be mentally and emotionally taxing for them,” reports executive producer Arnold Shapiro. “It will be interesting to see if by the end of the first show all 13 are still in the house.” Another change is that “the last seven people who are evicted will be sequestered at a secret location where they will not have access to the show,” Shapiro adds. Only those seven will vote for the winner. He hopes the change encourages the players to be more candid since there will be no fear of angering a voter. Julie Chen hosts."

Just wanted to clear up the confusion. :)

Bastable

Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 02:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It's sounding more and more like two houses, a la Australia's BB. Josh Souza is talking about two different bathrooms...

Lurknomore

Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 02:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Shadow, thanks but we all read that (and discussed it LOL) but what Starfire posted is that they would be sequestered away from each other. I don't see that in there. And if they are together than last one in just gives them the latest dirt.

Also, if AS is reading these posts it might explain my bad back...bet there's a vodoo doll that says Lurknomore on it hehehehe. And here my silly MD says it's a severed nerve.

Actually I'm sure he has some flunkies reading here, but given how he has bent over backwards to alienate the internet viewer I doubt he is giving some of the awesome ideas here the respect they deserve. And given some of the GREAT suggestions here, and the lame things he's done, I am not banking on him paying attention to us. But I sure wish he would cause between us we'd have this show ROCKIN!!!!!!!

CLP--intereting with oldest. Bet you it's the token cantankerous old man. How young was the youngest HG to date? There was an age minimum no? Like 21. Bet that is some boobalicious chick. We'll see.

Ok back to cleaning I'm stalling...ICK ICK cleaning.

Lurknomore

Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 02:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
PS (see TOLD you I'm stalling lolol)

Anyone else find it interesting that CLP's quote comes from Soap Opera Weekly?!?!

How long ago did I post that Arnie is trying to change BB into a "real life soap opera." Now he's marketing it as such. I rest my case.

Bastable

Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 02:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whatever the twist is, I'm sure we will hate it at first but then grow to love it, just like last year's twists.

Lurknomore

Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 03:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Bastable speak for yourself. I never grew to love the never used power of veto, thought Amy coming back in the house was unfair and didn't help the game...hmmmmm were there other twists? So I hope to love it, but not gonna count on it.

Therlin

Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 04:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So I'm curious, how successful has the rich/poor divide been in other countries? None of the countries has brought it back for the next season.

A quick search on google finds this quote about BBUK
"Following the task on Saturday 6th July the bars were finally removed to the relief of both the housemates and the public."

What bothers me is the "public" part.

Starfire

Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 04:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, page 107 shows that ex's will be brought in. It doesn't how many at a time though.(Tv Guide) I miss read about the seven being kept away from each other. Sorry But they won"t get to see what is going on in the house or feeds. But as somebody stated above, they will be able to tell what is going on as they get kicked out. Do you still love me a little?

Maris

Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 04:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My guess on the twist is the winner of the UK big brother will be brought in as a HG. None of the other HGs will know that he/she won the UK big brother contest and will assume the person got picked the same way they did. The UK big brother winner will be like any other HG and have the opportunity to win the big prize.

So will the UK big brother be the first to win a reality show on both sides of the pond?

Starfire

Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 04:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I got my July5-11 Tv Guide yesterday. (Sat.)

Tabbyking

Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 05:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
we love you a lot, starfire, but we can't read page 107 online...more's the pity. i was only kidding about having exes involved. are you sure they mean ex loves of the current houseguests and not ex-houseguests (from earlier BB's) coming into the house? that would be a great twist. however, i hope none of the exes are like mine, because AS would be in for a big problem putting us together! did you see 'sleeping with the enemy?' mine was worse and mine was for real!

Naja

Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 05:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't want the twist to be complicated. I mean look at power of veto..It was pretty useless. Mainly because it required too much thought, insight, planning, understanding, etc, on the HG's part, and the repercussions "could" be horrible to anybody that used it in the sense that the other HG's get ticked off. I just hope the new "twist" doesn't have anything to do with more choices the HG's get. It's boring. They won't do it often enough for us to get much enjoyment if there is any chance it turns others against them. I just hope it's something they have no control over and it's thrown in their laps, no choices.

Starfire

Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 05:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tabbyking here is the exact wording:SURPRISE.....the new houseguests are getting unexpected roommates...their exes!

Laisey

Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 05:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If you go to Reality 411, there is a brief blurb about the Soap Opera Digest article and if you click on the link and scroll down, you can read the full article. It mentions a twist to the Veto. I would have copied it here, but I'm not too sure about the copyright complications. Better some other board be in violation than BBFC.

Star291999

Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 06:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The copyright problem would be with Soap Opera Weekly not Reality 411 who took it from either Soap Opera Weekly or another board. I have seen this info on several boards. BB4BBQ also has it. http://www.bb4bbq.com

DK :p

Tabbyking

Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 07:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
thank you, starfire! looks like my goofy guess of the 25th may have been right! lol

Therlin

Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 07:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Not to get into legal details, but the site posting a copy of the article would be the one in violation of copyright law. Soap Opera Weekly could sue, but most likely, if they care, they would just send a cease and desist letter (ie. remove the article and we won't sue.)