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John32070

Friday, March 07, 2003 - 07:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This has been brought up before, especially after how Gerry was treated by most of the cast of BB3 last year, but is having a 40+ person{s} in the BB house an immediate strike against them? While I did like George, Kent, and Gerry, I felt like they were automaticly portrayed as the odd man out. Until George pulled his walkout deal, I and alot of others were really hoping he'd win. Last year I hoped Gerry would win just to show people like Lisa, Eric, and Marcelles that he was not the horrible person they tried so desperately to make him out to be. I did like Kent, but I knew he'd never win. I say that they should look at having 4 people in each age range (20's, 30's, and 40's) and that would make up the 12 and give no age group an advantage, at least for a while. Have the youngest 21 and the oldest 45.

Tntitanfan

Friday, March 07, 2003 - 06:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Less eye candy probably won't fly -

Sia

Friday, March 07, 2003 - 09:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
WE--the viewing public--shouldn't be so shallow as to watch reality series only if the participants are young, tanned, toned hardbodies with IQs in the mid-90s. Didn't we all watch in past seasons no matter the kinds of people who were cast? I think it makes for a far more interesting mix when there are older people included. Honestly, I would enjoy an entire tribe of 20-something slackers being put together on "Survivor" just to see them perish for lack of water and fire. If the whole bunch were as ambitious as Heidi and Shannon on this season's Survivor: Amazon, it would be as exciting as watching paint dry. However, because the strenuous nature of "Survivor" is lacking in the "Big Brother" house, it isn't as critical to select people based on their EKGs. I'd enjoy watching a more realistic group of people who are truly representative of the kinds of people WE hang out with. I've had enough of the shrewish swimsuit models already. No more silicone implants, no more thongs. Give me REAL PEOPLE.

I've noticed that a larger percentage of the middle-aged crowd on the reality shows display a better work-ethic than the 20-somethings. (Sure, there are exceptions; I'm speaking in general terms.) What I DON'T want to see in terms of casting this season is a house full of people with certifiable, documented emotional problems being thrown together to torture one another for several months. (Karen, George, Shannon, Nicole, Marcellas, et al, come to mind.)

Fill the "Big Brother" house with nice, friendly, average-looking people with wonderful personalities like Curtis Kin, turn them loose, and give me free live feeds! I'll be happy. Of course, I'd be even happier if someone would just deliver Curtis himself to my house, where I would proceed to make him part of my family!! LOL. (I'm a fan, can you tell?)

I've long believed that ratings mean nothing; ratings are routinely skewed to present whatever picture of success a network is looking for. It doesn't matter if I watch a TV program or refuse to watch it, and that frustrates me. The decision to renew a show or cancel it is often made before the third episode is even broadcast. I don't know how to get my opinions to the network bigwigs--or even if that would help. I don't believe the network hotshots really care what I think out here in Podunk, rural America, and that's too bad, because I should have some say in what is broadcast over network TV. I have lots of opinions as to what is appropriate/inappropriate and as the mother of small children there are many things I'd like to see moved to later time-slots--and some that I'd like to see removed from television altogether.

Tabbyking

Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 11:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
the way they picked contestants last time, they may as well just sequester the bellys regulars and run a camera 24/7. i want to see some 'outies' this time. (outies are people who have never been to bellys!) i am sick of the 'innies'!!
you will know if i am in the house, because i will be wearing an 'outies' t-shirt!! lol

Twiggyish

Monday, March 10, 2003 - 08:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Tabby, me too!

Keiffer

Monday, March 24, 2003 - 07:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just a bit of a misunderstanding. We say we want a more diverse grouping when it comes to age selection, yet the best person described by a whole paragraph was Curtis a 20 something? Right after speaking about the 20 something work ethic a 20 something is described as the perfect HG.

Add to all this that we talk about each off year with the fact that each year the ratings have been getting better. That is even with more networks showing new shows during the summer. The first summer this started CBS and ABC were the only networks showing new shows (Survivor, BB, and Millianaire). Why has the rating improved each year?

For two reasons, and funny I think they are the things that most board posters most seem to want to change. One thing is that they have taken the home viewer out of the equation in determining the winner. This has allowed for backstabbing, and coniving to occur between people. I didn't root for Daniel, but watching her and Jason having those "secret" meetings would not have taken place had the public been voting. Second, and most important each year they have "sexed" up the cast by getting more and more attractive people who are willing to be open about their lives to go into the house.

While hard core reality TV fans might want to see people who are more like them, or the people they associate with everyday, a majority of TV viewers watch TV to see people and situations that are different from their normal lives. That is what creates the feeling of escaping that draws people to TV.... epecially while the real world of international affairs is more than enough to fill our desire to see the real world.

Babyjaxmom

Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 02:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm fat, I'm old and I'm not as cute as I used to be. If I wanted to see myself on TV, I could just go look in the mirror.

Jedisan

Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 04:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Babyjax!

Keiffer

Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 04:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Very good babyjax. I concur! If I wanted to see people on TV like I work with all day already, then I would just stay at work longer.

Lurknomore

Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 07:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I couldn't disagree more strongly that less "eye candy" won't fly. Sounds like Arnie (who is no eye candy himself) posted that. Gee I like that man so much...doesn't it show hehehe. I have two words that PROVE my theory is true with the American Public...and I've already used one of them:
AMERICAN IDOL!!!!!!

That show just demonstrated that looks alone aren't what's cutting it with the general public. Boy weren't Ruben (YaY I love him) and Clay just too studly for words. Excuse me for a brief second whilst I ROFLMAO! But out of tons of eye candy those two are who AMERICA voted on by the millions. And what about the ratings? Higher than the Academy Awards!!! So sorry, I won't buy it can't work.

I think that shows and proves the US is tired of just pretty young faces and want some more substance. I'm not saying just cast ugly or fat and/or old people, but how about finding some INTERESTING fun people with personalities, of various ages, shapes and backgrounds that would be interesting to watch interact.

I have posted this every year but tell me it wouldn't be more interesting to see some pampered, older Beverly Hills Matron have to share a room and work with some sharp kid from the projects than it would be to watch an entire house full of 20 something star wannabees.

Grannyg

Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 07:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lurk, I agree wholeheartedly!!

Bigsister

Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 08:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree too. Think of the personality of Brittany, BBI. She was a very attractive young lady, although not a "babe" (a la Lisa of BB3,) but what a personality! Brit was much more fun to watch imo. But we see more and more of the "eye candy" type each year. I guess it's easier to make superficial judgments based on looks rather than take the time and effort to find people with real personality.

Bbfanatic

Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 09:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i dont believe it was george, kent, gerry, or karens age that caused them to be treated the way they were as much as it was their personalities or the way they were portrayed. being 37 yrs old and watching some of them. they seemed alot older looking than they were. when they cast their charactors for the show, they tend to make sure the ones in the 40 range look older than they are. i am not saying to try to find people in their 40s who look hot & sexy. i am just saying find 40 yr olds that look like 40 yr olds. when they cast the 30 yr olds they go for people who look younger and are immature for 30 yr olds. so they are doing the opposite and it makes it seem like there is this huge gap in ages. oh well, i know what i am trying to say.

Polypody

Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 07:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh My! I totally agree that the older ones were treated unfairly.
LOL at Sia and the "90 IQ"
I have always wanted to see a houseful of older hamsters. I think it would be an eye opener--older people have much more fixed personalities and would have a lot of trouble adjusting to life amongst others. There may be a "token" young one or two thrown in just to make it fair----

I agree that eye candy is so over!
If one must look at that type of show--there are many out there--
Many viewers prefer personality and substance to self-centered bodies.
And there would be no action missed by East Coasters due to late bedtimes!

Sia

Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 10:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer, what I liked about Curtis Kin was his friendliness, his sense of humor, and his intelligence. I don't know how old he was when he appeared on "BB;" it's hard for me to judge the age of Asians, since I'm not Asian myself. I considered him to be average-looking and I was delighted that he wasn't a muscle-bound jock. In fact, his high I.Q. was quite appealing. Curtis was kind to the other houseguests, sensitive to their feelings, and always contributed in a positive way to the house and when in conversation with other hamsters. Curtis was my favorite hamster not because of his age but because he was such a nice person.

Puttergirl

Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 02:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think an older person would fit in fine if they hired more "normal" contestants all around. Just look at Survivor to see that an older person can go far. Many have there. But they've gotten into this terrible trend on BB of bringing in great looking, young, sexy, and smug young people who have no tolerance for a normal older type. I would love to see one season with all normal people, such as they do on Amazing Race and The Mole!!!

Triplexxx

Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 03:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Are any of you against any``MILFs``entering the fray this season,like Sheryl and Tonya the past 2 seasons?I don`t mind the Gerrys and Kents there,different walks of life should be represented,but i wouldn`t really look at them,lol.To add about Gerry,Marc and Josh were especially harsh toward Gerry(Nazi,Marc bashing him behind the back),what exactly gave some of them a bad vibe about him?Lisa included.

Hippyt

Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 03:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Puttergirl. If they'd quite raiding Belly's for their contestants,maybe we could have a decent cast of normal people,behaving badly.

Katlady53

Monday, June 09, 2003 - 09:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"I would love to see one season with all normal people, such as they do on Amazing Race and The Mole!!!"

I totally agree, but there's no way they will omit the eye candy!

Maris

Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 07:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The older ones that were treated unfairly were treated that way in my view because of their personal habits or their personalities. None of them were people that I would want to spend any time with and I would have voted Gerry and Kent out first. I still get grossed out thinking of Gerry. Sherry was an older contestant and was liked by all because she had a decent personality and didnt offend people.

Tabbyking

Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 09:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
but sheryl was only there a very short time. although what i saw, i liked, she may have ended up getting on my last nerve; i'll never know, because of her short stay. i would have kept kent and gerry for a long time. i get grossed out thinking of chiara! and lisa's butt sore and tonya's leaking implant were pretty gross, too. personality-wise, i liked those over 40 the best.

John32070

Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 03:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the older ones like George, Karen, Sheryl, Monica, and Gerry acted a heck of a lot better in the game than say Eddie, Mega, Mike, Krista, Shannon, Justin, Lisa, Josh, and Marcelles. George had a shot of winning but he let his craziness go too far to where even his allies Eddie and Jamie had to cut their losses. Karen and Kent got to where they could not mentally handle the game and basicly asked to be voted out. Sherry got put in a position that she really should have said no to, had she somehow survived that and Nicole had gone, the game would have been much different and Sherry would have at least made the final three and I think she would have somehow got Will evicted. Monica should have been the winner of BB2 but like Nicole she played the chance that Will could be beat in the final vote as she had the power several times to get rid of him. Gerry should have let Marcelles stay to be evicted (I'm not certain that he would have went anyway) as it right away put him in a hole. And while I know he didn't realize he was doing it, he should have realized that he was tormenting Marc later in the game. He also should have told Jason that he would not nominate him instead of saying he probably wouldn't as from what Jason said in the DR that was what sealed it to nominate Gerry. I still feel however Lisa and Marc owe him a big apology. At least Josh had a small amount of decency to do so. I still stand by my original idea in this thread to spread the ages out more evenly.