HOW did they pick the Ex-es??????
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Sfsteve

Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 10:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi all.....I'm Steve from the Bay Area.....(neighboring town to Dani's from BB3's home)..........HUGE BB fan back to the first season, and avid reader of this site...thought I might participate this year.

Soooooooooo......How in the WORLD do you all think the BB Casting Crew chose the 4 "ex-es"?....

How did the even GET their names?

HOW could they keep it a secret?

And further....since four HG's have to deal with this prospect does this give an unfair advantage/disadvantage to the remaining FIVE?

Interested in your theories.

Kira33

Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 10:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I read that they simply told the ex's someone had informed them that they would be great for the show. Seems it's not uncommon for them to actively recruit potential houseguests.

The questionaire always includes questions regarding past relationships, as this is a way to get a sense of how the person relates to others. Not sure how they got them to reveal specific names, though.

Lurknomore

Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 10:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think they probably were discussing how folks like Tonya used talking about exes to make the camera's go away. AS was probably upset as he appears to enjoy total control of situations. I would be you, as a joke, someone said, well let's put the exes in the house then they can talk all they want. Next think you know it's a plan not a joke. That would be my guess.

I don't think it was hard to get the names...in the exensive interviews to get on the show I'm sure they were asked some questions like, "Tell us about the 5 most important relationships of your life." And then asked for names to keep them straight. Saw which ones had the most conflict and pursued those.

As for keeping it quiet as I recall they have discussed in the past how they had to sign confidentiality agreements and how families didn't even know till the last minute. I'm sure they just found a way to turn it up a notch.

You last question I think depends on the people and relationships...if folks feel they can trust and work with an ex then they are stronger. If they believe them to be horrible and turn to those without exes than that group will be stronger. And as always with any alliances, a lot will depend how evictions go. So all depends how it plays out.

There are my theories and most important...WELCOME STEVE!!!!!!!

Laisey

Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 10:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi Steve, here's an excerpt from AS's telephone press conference:

US Weekly: What was the planning process behind the relationship
questions? As far as the screening process, tell me more, in regards to
finding an ex, how they met.

AG: That was important to this year, but we go through extensive
interviews with these people anyway. We talk about all areas of their
lives. We just included a huge section on relationships, which quite
honestly we do every year, to understand how these people relate to
others. We of course delved into those details, but in a group of
questions about every topic so no one clued in to us doing this
specifically We would go in search of the exes to get the other side of
the story.

AS: Each of these exes have to be as good as the original person. The
original person could get voted out the first or second week.

AG: Our first priority is to have the best cast possible, therefore the
best individuals possible.

New Orleans Times: Did the exes know that they're going to be on BB? How
do you tell them?

AS: They do know they're going to be on BB. We find our cast in two
ways. People submit tapes and applications on their own. And we do our own
recruiting if we're looking for specific types of people. It wasn't
unusual for us to be contacting exes, it's just part of the recruiting
process, and saying, "Your name was given to us by someone who thought
you'd be real good for BB."

AG: We ask them, are they interested and do they want to explore this
more. Most of the time, you're going to get people saying, "No, I can't
give up three months of my life, no thank you."

You can find the full transcript in the BB in the Media thread. It's got a lot of good info.

Sfsteve

Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 10:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
WOW....thanks Laisey for that.

I STILL question the integrity of this year's show. In the past ALL of the HG's were strangers to one another, and they all went in with a "fresh" start. No one knew anyone else, etc etc.

I am excited about this new twist, but I just can't keep myself from thinking that these four people have an unfair burden placed upon them going in........you know, the extra "baggage" of having their ex in there with them.

And WHYYYYY would an "ex" AGREE to do this? I sure hope that the "ex-es" don't know EITHER that THEIR "ex-es" are in the house. I think THAT would ALSO unfairly skew the game.

PS.....I noticed that all NINE of the announced HG's so far are single/divorced.....anyone else notice that? I think this is a good move, although Dani who was married DID come very close to winning.

Pamy

Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 10:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Why would the ex's do this???? For the money!!and to make their former other half miserable.

Bobbie_552001

Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 11:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Exactly Pamy...my ex would do it for the those two reasons in a heart beat....

Tabbyking

Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 11:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i am sure that no one knows who else is going into the house. the first exes in or the exes they send in later.
since the 9 are all single/divorced, i hope to hell the exes they bring in aren't married or in a long-term relationship since. i would be furious to have my husband go in and then i find out his ex was there! he really loved her and she slept with everyone in town while they were married. i would reach through my tv and throttle her-- "and her little dog, (A.S.) too!!!"
it would be a trip though, for them to have to sort through all HER exes...probably 50 or 60 guys, lol

Tabbyking

Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 11:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
hi, bobbie!

Bobbie_552001

Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 11:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey there Tabbyking....whats up??

Laisey

Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 11:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hmmmm, the word "integrity" used in the same sentence with "this year's show." Don't think they go together. As far as why the ex's would agree, who knows? In fact, who knows how the offer was presented to them. They may never have seen the show and have no idea of what they are getting into. And they have no idea their ex will be there. I just hope they will not have totally talked out the hows and whys they got there before the feeds start. Maybe there will be a few conversations after the feeds start and we'll get some inklings.

Bigfan

Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 12:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Could this also be, ex mother or father-in-laws?
Maybe ex bosses, landlords......etc, etc??

Auntiemike

Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 01:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Regardless of what type of "ex" this is (and I think it will probably be an ex from an intimate relationship!), it is an unfair advantage/disadvantage and takes away from everyone starting at the same place and in the same time. It's an interesting concept but not for BB4! Maybe FOX could pick this up and run with it in their own "sleazy" manner.

At any rate, I'm a BB4-aholic and will be there on Tuesday night. Good to be with all you posters...like old times, heh?

Pamy

Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 01:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I honestly don't care how they picked 'um, as long as they are all scandalous!

Shadowkat

Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 02:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The "couples" have many times been targets for eviction because they were perceived as being more powerful. Maybe we'll have a Jason/Dani combo where the ex-couple becomes a team that no one else knows about. I think that would be... how do you say?.... scandalous!!

Scorpiomoon

Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 04:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know about you guys, but to me this reaks of trouble. We all know how bad AS and the gang are at doing background checks. I hope to God no one's life gets ruined because the producers wanted to kick it up a notch and gave little consideration to what they were doing.

Laisey

Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 04:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No matter how good the background checks were, there's no to way tell what emotional devastation could develop. If any of those with ex's are in current relationships, being locked up with an ex could really mess up their lives when they leave the house. But anything for ratings, right?

Maris

Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 04:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here is the other thing, I was thinking about the 19 year old who is an ex. Maybe the 19 year old doesnt want anyone to know about a relationship they may have had three years ago when they were 16 and not legal. What if the FBI guy had a relationship with someone when he was married. Will he want an ex walking in the door so his kids find out he was cheating on their mother? There are a lot of possibilities on the whole ex thing.

Therlin

Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 05:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd like to give Arnold a little more credit and hope that they know what they are doing when bringing the exes into the house. Other than the initial shock, and maybe someone considering walking out (but being talked out of it by other HGs or the producers), I think that the show will proceed as normal.

Crossfire

Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 05:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You guys have to quit teasing me with tantalizing predictions of DooM, Gloom and Torment, I bet half of them are sleeping, and the other half are reading books in the backyard.

Maris

Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 05:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
yes they are sleeping and reading books after they have taken sledgehammers to their exes.

Cousin_Jake

Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 05:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know about reading books Crossfire but I'm visualizing the dreaded, endless card games ... oh my

Addictedtobb

Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 05:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey Sfsteve What neighboring town. I am also from the area.

Sfsteve

Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 03:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey there Addictedtobb....I am in Benicia.........just about 15 miles down the road a piece from Dani's home of Fairfield.

Addictedtobb

Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 09:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am from Winters and work in Vacaville. Too bad there isn't someone in the house closer to home again this year. It made it kind of fun to watch even if you didn't know her directly.

Charvie

Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 01:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What if the 19 year old is the ex of the 58 year old ex fbi agent.

Sia

Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 06:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd be mad if I'd been picked as one of the "exes," since I would presume that would mean I was there for entertainment only and not really in the run for the $500,000.

Ketchuplover

Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 07:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Perhaps I have a weird sense of humor but I hope when the x's are revealed that their x's aren't shocked or surprised. I know that won't happen but I like to dream.

Laisey

Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 07:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ketchuplover, You mean something like a "Oh, you here too?" And back to the card game.