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Delilah

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 03:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
A kumquat is a fruit, a bit like a tangerine..... Anyway I am English, living in NY and I have really enjoyed this thread! It is interesting how the english language is different over here. I crack people up with some of my Brit slang, especially the cockney rhyming slang which I love to freak people out with!

Kitt

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 04:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
(bit late into the conversation here but another Brit here...)

I've only ever heard "knock up" as either

a) to make a woman pregnant, as in "he knocked up his girlfriend"

or b) to wake someone up by actually physically knocking on their door, as in "I'll come round and knock you up at eight".

I guess the use of it as phoning someone is similar to b). I've never heard of it though, I'm another Southerner like Sugarplum, albeit firmly planted in the US these days. (Hello fellow Brits out there!)

By the way, we do spell aluminium with a second "i", we don't just say it that way :).

(Sorry, this message has nothing to do with BB!)

Jadarville

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 04:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, when I was living in England 12 years ago fanny packs were known there as "bum bags" as bum is the slang term instead of butt.

Bohawkins

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 04:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Brits pronounce Aluminium as AL-u-MIN-i-um

Yanks pronounce Aluminum as A-LUM-i-num

Not only is the spelling different they are pronounced differently.

Kitt... it must have been a while since you have been back. I talk business to London several times a day. I hear the word AL-u-MIN-i-um probably twice a week because of the nature of my business calls involves investments in industries where materials are discussed. Recently, one guy had a friendly argument with me saying, "just look how it is spelled." It was the first time I realized that Yanks and Brits not only pronounce it differently, they spell it differenly as well.

Maris

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 04:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dont think I would buy a bum bag, unless it came with a free fifth.

Azriel

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 07:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi Sugarplum! Glad you joined us here at TVCH. We look forward to your input in the discussions.

I saw where someone was talking about pop or soda. Down in Texas or Louisiana we would look at you crazy for saying either one. Everything here is a coke.

Do you want a coke?
Sure
What kind?
Dr. Pepper.

Bohawkins

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 09:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Of course, Azriel in only having fun with that one.

As much as Coca-Cola would like for that to be true, that kind of usage of the term Coke simply is not pervasive. Coke is a well recognized brandname and people everywhere in the South all know it as the opposite of Pepsi; there is no confusion. That myth (that coke is a synonym for soft drinks in some mystical location in the South) is quite persistent and does appear again and again (told to strangers from afar). It is part of our mythical cultural folklore.

Maris

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 09:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Have you ever tried to order a Pepsi in Atlanta???

Zachsmom

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 09:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL! YES!! and in Orlando!!! I had to smuggle my own Pepsi onto a cruise from the Bahamas!!!

Bohawkins

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 09:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris... yes I was at one time a chemist for the Coca-Cola company in Atlanta right after University. I lived in Georgia for two years traveling all over the state visiting Coca Cola bottling plants. I had to buy a lot of Pepsi and taste it as part of my job.

Pepsi does quite well there. KFC only serves Pepsi as does Pizza Hut and Taco Bell which have made their respective ways across the landscape of America.

Serate

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 09:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry Bohawkins - Azriel might have been kidding but when I lived in Georgia it was always "Do you want a coke" and if you said yes they'd say "What kind, I've got ..... [insert whatever kind of pop is on hand, orange, Coke, Pepsi, 7-Up". I grew up saying "pop" and REFUSE to say "soda" so catch myself saying "Do you want a Coke" all the time now. And most people realize I don't drink Coca-Cola, hardly ever have it in my fridge, so know what I'm meaning.

Tho maybe my life is just part of mythical cultural folklore and not reality.

Maris

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 09:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Things have changed then from when I was last in Atlanta many many years ago. lol.

Cangaroo

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 09:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know...but growing up in NM and Texas we referred to all soda as "Coke"... it was always "Kleenex", "Bandaids" or "Crayolas"...no matter what brand it was we were using. I admit, it was somewhat asinine, but that's the way it was where I grew up. I never heard the expression "soda" or "pop" unless I visited my cousins in Kansas.

Bohawkins

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 10:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I do know that even for me "Coke" is synonymous with Cola. We all have many times had that frustration of asking for a Coke only to be told, "We only serve Pepsi, is that ok?"

I am sure that oft times in the old South people asked the question "Would you like a Coke?" as an invitation to liquid refreshment. Times have changed, however and I am sure only a few senior citizens are stuck with that rubric.

It is fun to try to tell the foreigners how quaint we are.

Cangaroo

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 10:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, Bo, I don't consider myself a senior citizen by any stretch, but I'm with Serate on this point. Besides, from my experience...when in the South, if they offered ice cold refreshment, it was usually iced tea!

Cangaroo

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 10:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
To add: In the South, I do know that iced tea is still the king of all cold beverages (other than beer for the adults that is).

Sisalou

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 10:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL - I'm with Serate, Cangaroo and Azriel also.

Anyone want a coke? :)

Cliotheleo

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 10:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Huh Bo? I can't vouch for the whole south but in Chattanooga where I grew up and in Nashville where I live, coke means EVERYTHING. Anything that's remotely close to any carbonated beverage is coke. As I type I'm having some gin mixed with some Bi-Lo brand clear carbonated soda ......... you know what I call it? "coke."

I have a friend from Chicago who swears that we (southerners) can just order a coke and we're automatically served whatever we want, like the server can read our minds.

Of course there's also "cold drank" which is another Nashville term for the same thing and just plain old "drank" which is a Memphis term for the exact same thing .............. coke. :)

Cangaroo

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 10:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Clio! You put that so much better than I did, heheh. My friends from Milwaukee all look at my like I'm looney tunes when I talk about any carbonated drink as being "coke". But then, when they had a fish fry and I asked them what kind of fish...their only answer was "fried", LOL. Same same, just different names.

Cliotheleo

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 10:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It kinda makes you wonder ............ if the HGs constantly referred to wanting a "coke" or having a "coke" would we have to get a FOTH everytime since it might seem that they were endorsing Coke over Pepsi? I mean, just imagine if Pepsi was one of the show's sponsors, can't you imagine the mess that would make? :)

Bohawkins

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 10:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Like I said... it is a fun tale, but in all my travels over the South I have never seen it in practice. But I will tell you that in my lifetime I have heard this tale repeated hundreds of times by people wanting to ascribe a certain uniqueness to Southern living. I someday hope to visit that place where people call all soft drinks "coke." It sounds idyllic.

Hey, have fun with it and keep on telling it. If anyone is "not from around here" they believe it and the fun continues.

Angelsluv

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 10:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You know how some guest on a talk show (like Letterman, Conan, or Leno) and will say they love a product and then on a subsequent show, they say that they were sent a large amount of said product from the company because of thier advertisement??

Makes me wonder if all of the HG's will get cases of Coke since they are mentioning it all the time.. *LOL*

Msreiziger

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 10:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sort of like coffee here in the Northwest (Seattle area). You can't just order "coffee," you must make the decision: Latte. Cappuccino. Cappuccino Grande. Double Mocha Tall. Double Mocha Tall Iced. Caramel Macchiato. Skinny Tall Double Mocha. Chocolate Brownie Frappuccino. Or my personal favorite when in Starbuck's: Peet's.
Ha.

Cliotheleo

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 10:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Baby doll, you may have never seen it in practice but I've lived it. I can't tell you how many times I've sat down and ordered a "coke" not caring WHAT they brought me, as long as it was BROWN. :)