A Surprise Twist...
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A Surprise Twist...
Lanzee | Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 10:10 pm     I can't wait for the surprise twist to reveal, trw!! YAY!! I will know until I come home after 6 pm!! I think the surprise twist maybe will talk about the rich side and the poor side and also choosing/voting thing. Now, the 13 lucky BB4 contestants are locked in a secret hotel. So, they won't know what the surprise twist will be! YAY!! Fun to watch!!  |
Grannyg | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 06:02 am     13 Houseguests, period 13 Houseguests. Period. - 6/29/03 In Soap Opera Weekly, Arnold Shapiro says there WILL be 13 New Houseguests. Read it below, along with some other NEW information! Thanks to our partners at Reality411.com! "Big Brother 4's Summer Shocker Soon after Big Brother 4 introduces the eager players to their new summer home on the July 8 premiere, the CBS show hits them with a major twist. "We've got some surprises [including] the single biggest surprise that we've ever presented on any Big Brother," teases the reality game show's executive producer, Arnold Shapiro. "It probably compares to any surprise that any reality show has ever presented. The viewers are going to be shocked." (I hadn't read this before) And how will the captive competitors take it? "Each of them is so different, so to make a generalization isn't fair, some may like the twist and some may dislike it." Shapiro promises some diverse personalities will be going for the $500,000 but he is light on details. "This year, for the first time there will be 13 houseguests not 12," he previews. Although he declined to explain the addition, he continues, "We've also have the youngest houseguest and the oldest houseguest we've ever had." One is male and the other female. The baker's dozen will face tougher challenges for food and power positions. ("We try to turn up the heat each season.") The veto power is back, but with yet another twist. As for the premiere's all-important icebreaker (where couples such as BB3's Lisa and Eric met), "We always do something big and special." Shapiro notes that ousted players will not get the chance to return from the real world, as beer guzzling Amy did last summer, "because everyone's expecting it". The producers also took steps to keep any real world scandals from surfacing. The players must pass "a rigourous background check" and are sternly warned about hiding past shames. "We say,'Even if you haven't [told us], we guarentee that before the series is over someone else will reveal it to the nation,'" Shapiro warns. "If you have any illusions that you are going to keep something secret from America, it won't happen." (I made it bold because I thought this was interesting. He must read Smoking Gun) Big Brother 4, again hosted by Julie Chen will air on Tuesday at 8 p.m. EDT, Wednesdays at 9 (featuring the weekly live eviction of one of the houseguests) and Fridays at 8. -MW" - Soap Opera Weekly, "Prime Time", for the week of July 8th, 2003 (on sale on June 27th) This may have already been posted but I didn't see it, so hopefully, this is news to you. |
Hobbs | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 06:34 am     2 to 1 odds, that Smoking Gun comes up with something |
Starfire | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 07:03 am     Theres two pages in Tv Guide that advertize BB4. Page 106 has a long right up about the 13 houseguests and the page accross from it tells about the exes comming in. Hopefully some of you will get a Tv Guide and see what I am talking about and not just blowing in the wind . |
C1mag | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 07:16 am     You think the "big surprise" is that the house collectively nominates 2 and votes out someone on their first night and the one who didn't get voted out becomes the first HOH? It's a wicked twist. You sure wouldn't want to come in dominating the conversation and acting like and idiot. If they had done this the past 2 years Nicole would have been gone based on no strategy and her overbearing first impression. Josh last year would have never had a chance to strategize. They would have escorted him out the door with that personality. I hope I'm wrong because if this does happen we may lose one of the more interesting characters too fast. Bottom line.... I'm excited for this puppy to get going. |
C1mag | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 07:39 am     well so much for speculation. Now we know what it's all about. Just a bunch of angry ex lovers making sure the other doesn't get the money. It bothers me that they are blatantly saying exactly what they want from this group this year. They want sexual drama, jealousy, and hatred to be the formate. The TV viewer will live for the edited version of this type of lust fest. The internet viewer may end up getting screwed. We may not get live feeds after all because I think Shapiro wants complete control over this thing this time. |
Tthomas | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 07:51 am     don't know if this was guess yet or not but here is a twist they might use only letting the people up for nomination can win the Veto this way it will be used each time & now the HOH would have to watch who they put up. |
Faerygdds | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 08:56 am     I have an idea on the 13th HG/someone leavingnight 1 thing... You know that game they play the first night??? BB2 had the stay in the car and BB3 had the stay in the tree... WELL.............. Those games ended pretty quickly. What IF the first person out of the game gets evicted on night 1! That way people don't just "give up" and quit. really make the first night interesting! The last person of course gets some gift or something... |
Lurknomore | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 10:41 am     sigh C1...you and I have been saying the same thing for awhile now (bout the feeds). I sure hope we are both wrong. Seems to me Arnieboy has completely forgotten what concept of BB is...if he ever knew it. |
Marej | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 12:05 pm     Do you think that now that the "secret" is out they must have selected the houseguests already and have them stashed somewhere. |
Tabbyking | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 12:15 pm     i think they are stashed in hotels with 'handlers' and kept apart from each other for 10 days or so before they go into the house. i remember hearing how they had to coordinate things if two people requested to use the hotel gym, etc. |
Crossfire | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 12:19 pm     So...I guess they were recruiting at Belly when their recruit had a vigorous public parting, and were entertained enough by the spectacle to recruit both, and look for more. |
Laisey | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 12:20 pm     Marej, The Variety article starts with a statement that now that the HGs are safely sequestered then goes on about the twist. |
Maris | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 12:28 pm     where are our LA members who can go by the hotel have a drink at the bar and scout out the prospects. I definitely remember the HGs talking last year about being in the bar and thinking that other people were HGs. Anyone remember what hotel it was? |
Tabbyking | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 12:30 pm     i think i remembered something about houseguests being on a same flight from atlanta or something, too, one year. |
Maris | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 12:35 pm     Yes Tabby that was Nicole and I am thinking Will? but definitely nicole. |
Tabbyking | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 01:14 pm     crossfire, you probably hit the nail on the head! what would be a crack-up is if we got former 'belleyachers', 'houseguests', and 'exes' all in one package, so we got boogie and krista again! it would be "like deja vu all over again" as yogi berra once (or twice) said. it would also have me turning the tv off! |
Ginger1218 | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 01:43 pm     You know, maybe it won't be bad. Why not wait until it is on before you decide how "Horrible" it will be. |
Crossfire | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 01:48 pm     I'll have to watch to see how it goes. I think I can adapt to a few variations on this show. As long as it's not boring, I'm probably going to be good for a few thousand posts here. I notice they are going to do the second house thing. I think that is one of the things I mentioned at the end of the last show in one of our, idea threads for next year. |
Reiki | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 02:15 pm     I will be happy if we get to "see" what's happening with the secluded ex-houseguests. It would be interesting to see how they interact once they are no longer competing for the big money. If they give us live feed access to them, I can see many sleepless nights coming my way. |
Tabbyking | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 02:36 pm     wait until we get exes in the evicted seclusion. if they aren't told they are also filmed, we may get some real cat fights. sheesh, this eviction sequestration home could be more 'real' than the BB house! |
Rabbit | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 02:40 pm     We need a poll. How many HGs walk out when they see what the twist is. I suspect those ex's recruited would feel much more betrayed than the ones who signed up for the show. |
Laisey | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 02:56 pm     From Zap2it: Allison Grodner, Shapiro's producing partner, came up with the idea as a way to make sure that "story [is] already there" at the start of the game. She says she wanted to begin this "Big Brother" with something more than the typical getting-to-know-you episode in which everyone makes small talk and tries to get to know the other players. "In this case," she says, "we've got people already walking in with stories, with a past." None of the four couples were married or had children, although some did live together for a time. The reasons they broke up, and the lingering feelings, are different in each case. "Some broke it off on good terms. Some actually might want to be reunited," Grodner says. "And some [breakups] aren't as happy as the others." At least one is in the never-want-to-see-you-again category. The contestants, who range in age from 19 to 59, will be introduced Thursday (July 3) on CBS' web site and the pages of Entertainment Weekly. Julie Chen is returning as "Big Brother's" host. Shapiro and Grodner decided to keep last season's big new element, the veto, in play this time, and they promise a new wrinkle to that aspect of the game as well. |
Bbfan05 | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 05:17 pm     Can someone answer this for me? I thought you HAD to be 21 to be on Big Brother. I'm pretty sure that's what it said on the web page for applicants. Now what's the deal????? I mean I'm okay with it, because if there's a BB7 I can apply, lol. |
Demeter | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 05:22 pm     Well, maybe you have to be 21 to apply, but not to be chosen. Suppose one of the ex's of the applicant's is the 19 year old. The 19 year old will have been chosen, recruited but not applied through normal routes. |
Grannyg | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 05:57 pm     and that could explain the discussion some where about the drinking and her being under age. So maybe she is there only for a brief time and therefore the chance of her drinking is slim to none. heck, all of the ex's could be the first to go and then that would leave 9 "real" players and 7 get to vote and 2 are the final ones. That way every HG would get to vote. Maybe the surprise twist is that if you win POV you can kick out your ex. lol |
Ladytex | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 05:58 pm     nevermind ... question answered ... LOL |
Saggkl | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 07:30 pm     Does anyone feel there may be even more front of the house this year? |
Laisey | Monday, June 30, 2003 - 07:38 pm     Instead of showing the front of the house, I think they should have a cage of hampsters we could watch. |
Lurknomore | Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 10:56 pm     Laisey SHHHHHHH in case any of Arnold's flunkies are reading. Though for me one of the highlights of last years BB was when a friend of mine was over and I was showing him around the feeds, and there was an ENDLESS Lizard cam. A few hours later the feeds came back up and he watched a little bit of it, walked out of the room while saying "the lizards were more interesting." And he really meant it! Damn near peed my pants LOL!!!!!!! |
Sunshinemiss | Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 12:47 am     I wonder if the 2nd house they will be sequestered in is on the same grounds as the BB house? The complex there has a bunch of buildings, and maybe they've converted or added one to be the "loser" house. Could one of our BB Angels cruise by and see if there are any significant changes externally? I know there is security but you don't need to get close. Or someone web-savvy could hunt down an aerial photograph? Have we heard yet whether or not they are going to be sequestered from each other? It would seem to be best for the show but not as much fun. Hey maybe we will get less FOTH since there will be 2 houses- maybe they will just cut to the 2nd house. Too much to hope for, maybe? |
Demeter | Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 07:07 am     I don't have high hopes of having any live feeds in the second house. They will be monitored, but not to the same extent as the primary house and we will "maybe" be privy to some of the edited content on the show, but no feeds. It would be great if they did have feeds, and in fact, let's put the second house in a different time zone. |
Maris | Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 07:21 am     with alarm clocks!!!!!! |
Tabbyking | Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 11:53 pm     you know how they usually have pets, besides lice, i mean? well, i have a good pet for them. i have a cat named webpee who basically is a chicken kitty and lives under my bed. we have had company for several days here and there over the 4 years we have had this cat and most of them don't believe we have a cat. he comes out only for family. he goes camping for a week at a time and hides under my covers all day. he sneaks out at night and peeks out the motorhome window at people making s'mores around the campfire... well, i think we should put webpee in that house. no one would ever see him, and he would sneak around at night and peer at everyone--we could catch him on the live feeds with the night vision camera. after a few days, the bedroom he is hiding in would start to reek of cat stuff from the litter box production would have hidden somewhere that only the cat can find. since no one sees the cat or knows he's there, they start blaming each other for poor hygiene. let's make sure to put him in a room where cat dander gives someone sneezing problems, but not severe allergic reactions. that annoying sneezing could get someone ousted early. he also occasionally does 'silent but deadlies', which would really tick some people off! |
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