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Needmylifeback

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 01:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it is Robert's strategy to use the "freekin" word...after all he wants to go to the sequestered house by the beach and surf...I so hope that it is an identical house (with only one bedroom ...in the style of the desert room...and then he's in there the longest! (Actually if Dana goes in first and then Robert...she'll have a week of only talking to herself and then have all that energy saved up for Roberts first week!)

Closetfan

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 01:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Exactly, katlady...is this really 'on-screen' behavior? Not to mention...just get a vocabulary! It's crude and really BORING and I feel like it's infecting me. I find myself thinking more cusswords in my head than usual and I don't want that to become a habit and I don't want them to start leaking out my mouth!

Wanderer

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 01:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think any of them have enough command of the english language so they have to fill in with the cussing

Closetfan

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 01:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Needmylifeback - That would crack me up! These poor delusional little hamsters are gonna lose it when they find out what 'the beach' is...OMG!

Arnie - Please give us cameras there too! I'd pay for that!

Saggkl

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 02:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Robert was talking about if one of the three wins they will give the other two some money. Isn't that against the rules? or has that changed also.

Jan

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 03:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
HIS 7 YR OLD DAUGHTER SLEEPS WHERE??

I just read this in the live feeds:

Auntie 2:48 PM
then he begins about his house in la, it's a two bedroom house and justin is invited to move in, justin says where does your daughter sleep? robert says in his room.

I thought she must have heard wrong so read upwards and found:

Lostintheglades 2:39
Robert talking about how cool his house is, it's 2 bedrooms and his daughter sleeps with him.

OK maybe I am a bit hyper about this subject due to my past...but IS THIS NORMAL????

Grannyg

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 03:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I heard the convo too but from what I understand the money CANNOT be split between any of the others. I am sure BB will inform them of this fact in the DR. Robert was saying much stuff that didn't amount to a hill of beans, I didn't even think it was worth putting in the LFP's. He is so full of bull. I can guarantee you even if he wins and they say he can give the money to anyone he wants to, he will not give any to Jee or Justin.

Zachsmom

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 03:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jan- Co-sleeping is very popular. I don't do it because I like my space, but many families do have a "family bed" where they all sleep--everynight from birth until the child is ready to move. I don't know if this is his reasons because I don't tolerate listening to him for more than 2 minutes..lol

Would you find it appalling if I stated my 5 year old boy slept with me?

Don't get me wrong..I don't like Robert one bit..but I am not going to judge him on "this" parenting practice or make some sort of perversion of it when it is very popular with some families. There are too many men that I respect out there in the world to make this seem perverted because they co-sleep with their kids.

Eeyoreslament

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 03:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My good friend (female) sleeps with her 5 year old son. I see absolutely no perversion in it, however I think he may grow up a little more dependent than others. However he may grow up feeling a abit closer to his mother than most boys. Who knows.

In a world where men and women should be treated equally, we should either lay off Robert, or start chastizing women for sleeping with their sons.

To take away from the serious tone of this post I'd like to add:

I think everyone underestimates the power of the kitchen 'island', in the alliance with the table and the lazy susan. Nobody ever notices the island's popularity as a food/gathering place. The island plays UTR, and I think has a chance of making it to the end.

Wargod

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 03:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
We co slept with both our kids. My 7 year old son still climbs into bed with me in the mornings (usually about 5:30!) to watch cartoons and my daughter will climb into bed with either both of us or either one of us depending on when she feels like it. Most of the time it's just convienient. If they can be quiet, we get a little more sleep than we would if they were running through the house at 5:30am or my daughter was laying in her room at 9:30pm kicking the wall.

Eeyoreslament, I agree about the kitchen island. It'll be there long after everyone else has been kicked out!

Scorpiomoon

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 04:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm not a parent, but my opinion is, a child should be sleeping in their own bed (95% of the time) once they reach school age.

Robert's daughter is 7 years old. In my opinion she should have her own bed.

The thing that bothers me is, Robert is so icky you can't help but be suspicious of him. As narrow-minded as this may sound, if Dave or Justin said they shared a bed with a child, I'd be less grossed out by it.

Costacat

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 04:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm with Scorpio on this one. If Robert shared his bed *family* style, with a wife/mother, that might be different. But the man seriously makes my skin crawl, and I don't like the way he treats women. I'm more concerned that he has a 7 year old living with him, let alone sleeping. Where does he bring all those women home to? You know, all those women that he just "crooks his finger" at and they come running?

Costacat

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 04:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That hammock!!! That creaking sound the hammock makes when someone's swinging in it. Right now, David is swinging away, and the only sound I can hear on Cam 3 is the hammock!!!! What? Does it have it's own mic?

Curtisahahahaha

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 04:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Co-sleeping with your kids from the time they're little until they are ready to move?

Huh? What ... What planet am I on?

Zachsmom

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 04:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I want to complain that Maris is watching a movie with James Brolin!

I knew I loved James Brolin..he'll sit and watch Lifetime with you <sigh>

Zachsmom

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 04:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
yep Curtis..I had a cousin whose child slept with them until he was 10 years old.

Naja

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 05:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, this isn't a complaint, but more of a whine. If when Tuesday's show comes on and they don't make as much fun of Jee for saying "I put my life on the line" as much as they stressed Dana "pi$$ed off" all the time last week, I will be very disappointed..LOL

Idlechitchat

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 05:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As a treat, once in awhile, I allow my 11 yr old sona and 7 year old daughter to sleep with me in my bed. I asked my son the other day why he likes this so much and he said that my bed is better. I know several other very well-adjusted kids who also sleep with their parents on occasions. There is no perversion at all unless you call me being kicked allnight long by them a perversion.

Nathalia

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 06:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My children only sleep with me if they are sick..so I can keep a better eye on them. I know many couples who's children sleep with them or in place of one of the spouses to be used as a sort of birth control. i.e. the wife doesn't want sex so she has one of the children sleep in the bed to avoid an excuse. I also found it "weird" when Robert said his child slept with him. Reminds me of my old boss who would brag about how he gave his daughters better baths than his wife did...ewwww. Just the thought of it grosses me out.

Maris

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 06:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it is disgusting to suggest that there is something amiss if a man says his daughter sleeps with him sometimes. I dont like Robert but that is a long way from suggesting he is incestuous pedophile. It is also very damaging to even suggest something like that. I have a friend who is divorced and he never allows his daughter to sleep over at his house on weekends because he is afraid that his wife would accuse him of something.

Scorpiomoon

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 06:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris: You're right, Maris. Insinuating that a man is a pedophile is a harsh thing. But don't you think, in this day and age, parents walk a fine a line when it comes to how they choose to parent and what they openly admit to? Aside from the show, I'm sure the majority of people would find Robert's sleeping arrangement inappropriate and he should consider that.

I'm not arguing with your point. It is unfair men get painted with the same brush. But the reality is, single fathers do have to be acutely aware of how their parenting choices are perceived. Do you know what I mean?

Maris

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 06:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Why do single fathers have to be acutely aware of how their choices are perceived????

I see nothing wrong with a child hopping into a parents bed. Its a sick world when parents who have a cuddle with their kid are told it is poor parenting.

Dipo

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 06:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You know it may be that they share a bedroom,she may have a bed in his room, not necessarily sharing his bed. I am sure that his ex wife has custody, based on his life style, she is probably only there on some weekends.

I will admit it did creep me out when I first heard it, but I give him the benefit of a doubt. Hildi did a makeover of a room for a father and daughter where they had beds in the same room. I prefer to think of Roberts bedroom with the two beds, a sofa/hidabed for her and a queen for him.

Xarph

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 06:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Are the producers mad at us? They have all four feeds tracking Jee around doing nothing other than feeding his face.

Costacat

Monday, July 21, 2003 - 06:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You forgot the closeups of Jee's girlfriend, Xarph. All four feeds on Jee eating Pepperidge Farms cookies, drinking milk, and staring at the photo. And the sound? Jee chewing and rustling the cookie package. <yawn>