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Cinder

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 05:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I bet Real and CBS make a fortune from the live feeds. If you count at least $25 for everyone at TVCH that has the live feeds- that seems to be a fortune to me- and there are people who watch that do not visit TVCH. Most of us are customers that Real would not have if they did not have Big Brother live feeds.
not sure why anyone who watches BB would NOT visit this site- but they didn't ask me

Bastable

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 05:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Excactly. Everything boils down to money. Remember that and everything to do with Big Brother will be clear.

Maris

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 05:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
last year they had 50,000 subscribers for the live feeds.

Whit4you

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 05:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well I can't agree - I watch BB for a reason and it's not to watch a bunch of people act as they would in sunday school. If they are going to suggest they not be allowed to say any words that anyone else might possibly deem offensive it's a completely controlled environment.

I mean 90% of what is said on the live feeds would offend my mother.

Of course you all are free to complain to CBS if you want... but I for one will be disappointed if CBS decides to completely control any and all potentially offensive words by these people.

Marc - the gay black man - said more offensive stuff then most of these folks combined.

I mean if someone spends 5 minutes in the military they are going to hear and be called more offensive things in the first day then these people can say in 3 months. Anyhow - I didn't sign up to watch a group of people act as they would in sunday school... when two people that show are having a private conversation it is concidered private to them even if we are here listening.. we are suppoed to be listening to their private conversation - but if they can only say things that wouldn't offend my mother then it's a totally different concept.

But even if they act like they would in sunday school that might offend people of other religions, or athesist etc. So what's left. Discussing the weather.

Theo

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 05:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sunvrose...that's what I don't get Why is it only visible on the livefeeds...all of America should be shown what we have been shown...that being that these people are vile and none of them deserve our collective viewing money...I have written both endermol and CBS to clarify editing practices(why was ericka shown bashing Koreans and all the other bashing left out) and still have not recieved an anwser from them. Anyway this discussion on the boards is frankly just a waste of time..we can't change the HG's but we can ask CBS and endermol why somethings are shown and some are editted out..IMHO

Sanfranjoshfan

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 05:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't really think that CBS could (or would) do much to try and get the HGs to tone it down either, except for one thing.

The very best solution I can think of is this: They should flash the "Expect the Unexpected" sign and, after they all get good and worried, they should be sat down and have to complete a sensitivity training session via the plasma screen. It could include interviews with people that are affected by their remarks, stats on homophobia and racial discrimination, etc... and explanations of how empathy and consideration are far more valuable than denigration and ridicule. They act like hateful school kids, so treat them like school kids.

I would love to see the look on their faces when they realize that their hatefulness was so bad that they had to sit through a seminar like this on national television....oops, I mean INTERNATIONAL televison! (I forgot that they are being seen in the UK now!)

Iceprincess

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 05:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL see Bastable...we were on the same page there...just saying it different ways :)

OK Guys, I was just watching the feeds...and Alison was talking about how she wants to do bodily harm to Dana...and I am sure I remember Dana saying that...Isn't that grounds for some kind of talking to...(I don't want to mention the fictional penalty nomination...but...)I thought threats weren't allowed.

Theo

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 05:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good idea SanFran..and you have to do that in the military before you ever leave basic...and we the netwatchers should be able to grade them on satisfactory completion or not..

Costacat

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Do any of you remember the sexual harrassment training you had a work? One of the things that drummed into us constantly was that if you were offended by something, you need to speak up. I have spoken up -- to both CBS and ASP.

What is sad, though, is that none of the houseguests have said anything about the vulgar language and names. I wonder, though, if they would actually tone stuff down if another houseguest mentioned that he/she was offended.

Anyways, this is totally off topic.

So... are you enjoying watching all the workout sessions on all the feeds? Does watching the workout sessions make you want to go work out, too? <BIG snicker>

Iceprincess

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Costa...it makes me want to grab a big bucket of chocolate ice cream, sit back and watch reruns of Andy Griffith (I just loathe that show) LOL

Maris

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The barber drove me nuts. Couldnt stand him or Aunt Bee. As a kid I was so happy I didnt have to live with someone like Aunt Bee.

Laisey

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This could be a double edged sword. If they HGs are told how inappropriate their comments are, it may only serve to remind them that everything they say is being broadcast over the internet. They may clean up their language (of course, it's not going to change their attitudes) and they may also self-censor all conversation and communicate primarily in whispers. I don't like what is said, but that is who these people are and this is what happens with a non-diverse cast. If Jun, Jee and Robert weren't in the house, I'm sure there would be inappropriate comments regarding asians and hispanics. I'm afraid it's really a question of which is preferable -- a group of people who have grown accustomed to cameras and microphones and are being themselves, or a group who are constantly worried about how they are being seen.

Jennywa

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
SanFran,
Please don't compare the Houseguests to school kids. As an elementary teacher, none of my kids would ever act that way, even the more ornery ones! They know better and are much more sensitive.
I do know what you're saying, though and agree.
I think a little reminder might help. I am also surprised no one in the house has said anything. Maybe they're afraid it will mess up their game.
I don't have a problem with BB saying something to them. If they can tell the HGS not to hate Burger King, they can tell them not to say***** and *****.

Bluerose

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If the house was full of politically correct people, CBS would be forced to cancel the show before the season ended. There is always PBS for the easily offended. My grandparents wouldn't watch this show and I wouldn't expect them to.

Costacat

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Blue, my issue is that it is a constant. The *occasional* cuss or disparaging remark *might* be overlooked. But the constant barrage is what I'm protesting.

Costacat wants to hack another hairball but instead decides to go roll around in fresh catnip!

Jennywa

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree, Cost.
I don't consider myself PC or easily offended.
However, these guys are totally rude, sickening, insensitive, and so way beyond just un PC.

Maris

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What is even better sanfran,is these HGs are under the illusion that America loves them and they are providing the best big brother show in the history of big brother shows.

They would be shocked if as a reward they could be given clips from the message boards which lets them know what people on the outside really think. It will blow them away.

As far as the language Dana said that the Diary room already talked to her about her language and told her she was not allowed to curse when she talks to Julie on Wednesday. lol.

Csnog

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just sit them down and show them some of the words out of their own mouths. That should be an eye opener for them.

Iceprincess

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Along with that post Maris...can you imagine them doing that website thing they did last year where the HGs got to see some of their fan sites?? I just don't see it with this bunch.

Maris

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
do they have fan sites???? They probably make that old Banishkrista.com site tame by comparison.

Cangaroo

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Personally, I think censorship would be bad. It would take away from the experience we are having. Because without it, we all know what despicable people these HGs truly are...and we knew it from week 1! We didn't have to wait 1/2 the season to figure it out. This way, if I was to ever meet one of them by accident...I would know to steer clear. These are the types that if their car broke down and someone stopped to help them out, instead of being thankful that they got help, they would just complain that the person helping them was not fast enough. With this group, at least you can see it coming--you can sidestep them before you step right in the middle of their $h1t!

Iceprincess

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have seen 1 fan site and that was for David...LOL

Bastable

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 08:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dave is losing it. This reminds me of "Chicken George Blasts Off"

davelosesit

Cangaroo

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 08:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This guy was a ranger? He must have some schrapnel buried somewhere in his head, LOL

Seamonkey

Monday, July 28, 2003 - 08:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cuter tho. Than George, that is.