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Ryn | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 07:24 pm     email LFP from Auntie about 5:15pm BB time amy says she is gonna put chiara up, but she doesn't know who to put her up with. she can't put lisa up because she needs lisa's vote. she says jason is a wild card. she is trying to explain to roddy why she is going to put him up for eviction. she says you see my dilemma. roddy says it is not HER dilemma, it is HIS dilemma. he says she should not let dani control her. she says dani is not doing that. r says that gerry was afraid that josh would attack him physically. he makes some remark about gerry the gorilla. r says that if amy puts dani up she will be covered and not voted out. amy says she has to consider the veto. foth she says the veto concerns her even more than the noms. amy reminds him of the power of veto game when she made an agreement to veto roddy if she ever had power of veto when he was nominated. roddy had forgotten about it. amy says that some of her reasoning was due to things that happened when she was out of the house. missed some. roddy said that a lot of things that happened in this game totally surprised him. he never thought that within two days chiara nom'd him and jason lied to his face. amy says she does not want to be the executioner, that is so not what she is after. roddy says that if he does make it through, there are so many things to discuss, that a lot of people showed him their underbelly a lot quicker than he thought they would. amy said that he should know that it is not personal. he suggests jason, says jason would vote to save chiara. amy says, yes, but you only need three. that's all it takes, and she has to know the votes. she says that everyone is going to be so mad at her, she might not be able to do it anyway. she seems to be waffling between jason and roddy to go up with chiara. roddy says that she needed to remember that if josh could scumbag everyone, he could beat roddy, and the longer the week went, the more he pissed people off, the easier it was for everyone to vote josh out. amy says she knows that roddy is not going to go around being all pissed off. she says that she handled being up pretty well, the first time was easy, the second time was painful. amy says if she does not put roddy up, she may go up because of it next week. she says she knows it. she says but somebody else was, that before she even got there it was preplanned to put her up - operation revolving door. (ed - phone rang, gotta go.) |
Konamouse | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 06:20 pm     Goes into the SR, there is lots of food in there (for tomorrow). Gets her key, asks G how to unlock the door of HOH. He demonstrates. Door closes. A - lets talk strategy. I sat in the tub to save my ass. I have some pressure to put you up. I will not put you up if I can have your vote against someone else. Chiara. G - I can do that. A - in order to do that you are voting to keep Jason in the house. I'm putting the devil up against the saint. I know when I left J was not your favorite. G - he's a sweet boy, I perceived him as vulnerable. But he's done some things that have endeared him to me. He was the vote that gave me the tie breaker against Eric. A - every HOH's dream. G - I was happy. I got to do the Veto (for all the right reasons). A - and no one has used it since. Then she is worried that someone else might get POV and take J off the block. She really wants C out, she upset her while A was in the house before. G - you need to think….same thing that gets played when I get put up "you haven't been put up yet" (when she nominates J). A - I don't think it's fair to get put up more times. I won't put R up against C since he was up last week. She tells G that she has been promised two votes. She had decided to put R & C up before she walked into the house, but now she can't do it to him (R) two weeks in a row. BB keeps dropping audio in the HOH room but we're still getting the video on Feed 4. G still wants to win money, but after hearing about how popular BB is outside, he is fine if he doesn't win. But agrees to A's plan, he will vote out C. She tells him that there has been pressure to put G up against C. A is sure that C has pissed off L, so she has L's vote. G thinks that L is a stronger player now that E is gone. G tells A that E was shocked to be voted out, that E thought G wanted L out, but G says that he was really after E all the time (that the producers didn't want the show to be an all boy's club). FOTH. |
Ryn | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 06:21 pm     Gerry says amy can use the reason that "you haven't been up yet" Amy says she won't put Roddy up because he was up last week. Any says she is going to piss everyone off with her noms. Marcel and Roddy have promised to NOT put up Amy if they get HoH next week. Amy says she just cannot put up roddy again (2 weeks in a row) - she was certain she was going to nominate him before she got in the house (if she won HoH) but finding out he was up the week before made her decide that she could not do it again. Amy says that "they pretty much handed me HoH, but thats because they thought I was going to put up R & C" (refering to the other HGs letting her win HoH.) She feels she can secure 3 votes to oust Chiara, she trusts Marcel, (the only "vote" she lists). Gerry starts talking about how they felt the producers were worried that it might be the "all boys club" and he knew it wouldn t be (pp) FOTH (Done for now) |
Konamouse | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 06:45 pm     Feeds return back to the HOH. Amy reminds G that she would never put up M, even at the end "hell, we would both get something". G tells her that he wants it to be him, M and D. He said he would like to win the money….but he is happy to hear about what is going on outside, and knows that he will be able to make something with his celebrity status when he gets out. Last night he really wanted to go home. Homesick. Remembering how important his work is to him….that his popularity might get in the way of his teaching. A knows that it will be really big in everyone's own home town (compared to random people in Mexico). G "I may have to start wearing a toupee and shave my beard". A - I wanna make my own decisions. G - if you want to put me up, I don't have a problem with it. And if that is my choice (vote C), I probably would have done that anyway. Have you tipped this to R yet? A - he knows that she is going up, and that he is not. G promises her he will not tell anyone. A doesn't want anyone to know before the nominations. Everyone is going to be pissed at her. She will not put up R. G - you think M will be mad? A - yeah. But I'm so NOT about revenge. Ultimately the fight was Josh's fault. She tells G about D trying to get her to put up R (ed. D has already told L that they are going after R if R & C are on the block this week). A- I think everyone else took my leaving harder than I did. I look at this as this is a GAME. G - that is what I did w/ E & L. Again, she apologizes for not doing what the others want her to do. She wants to walk out with her head held high. She kept thinking about devil against the saint. What ever it took to get C out. She doesn't want to be thought of as revengeful. Then G against C was proposed but A didn't think she could be guaranteed the votes. Getting C out has been her objective since week 2. It may be signing her ticket out the door, that is fine. G - you've already been out the door once. A - and it isn't that bad. G - they won't be sending you back to Mexico. A - but I would get to see Bucky this time. They didn't let her see her dog. The HG wondered if she got Bucky in Mexico but A tells her that he would not have liked it. A then asks BB to just send her home, no need to fly Bucky out to greet her when she is evicted. G - let me ask you another question. Did Josh ask you to do anything for him, like call Merrit for him? A - yes. G - he asked me to pull my key first, b/c Amy is setting something out. A - we didn't set anything up. He just wanted to know (he was nervous). G tells her about how L came to talk to him, and it was nothing personal. Then when E came to him and suggested Josh as a replacement if the POV is used. G said to E "you had your chance, we put him up and you voted". G knew all the bad stuff Josh was doing at night. G - keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer. I took the high road. Look at who is still in the house. A - promise me you won't tell anyone. Sings him a snippet of a song "Twist of Fate". Complains that HOH should be w/o any influence from other HG. Tells G that D only wants to be nominated if they want her out of the house (doesn't want to be a decoy). Amy would like J out of the house also, but she knows that he won't be voted out this round. She played everyone up against C and knows she needed to put up someone who might be a vote FOR C to stay, and that is how she came up with J for the other nominee. G reminds her the way to play it is that J has not been previously nominated. A - I feel good about that. G - I tell you, that is an easy way to do it. A - I can live with that. If I let other people tell me what to do, I would feel so bad. I have HOH for a reason. Everything happens for a reason. I will not be played by anyone. This is my second chance. G - truly, at this point in the game, I can't tell you. Maybe it will start filtering out now, now that Josh is gone. Can't you just play this game above board (without the alliances). Josh started working it (the minute they walked in the door). Ultimately I got really mad. A - I was mad at myself at that too. I prayed for a second chance. I'm the only person in the world who has gotten this. G - you can have fun. I wish you could have seen that food competition, M was so…it was the most magnificent thing. A - I can't wait to see. G - he was gagging, but I said, he's gonna do it. R thought he could out psych him, but you're not going to outpsych M. I felt bad about D & C on R's team. A - I felt bad about them having it twice. They walk out of the HOH, making sure the door is unlocked. G thinks next week might be a split house (and one team having to eat PB & J). G - is there abs class? A - no, b/c it is PB & J day. G - I looked good in the speedo today. Comments about the pictures from last week's POV competition w/ G climbing out of the slime tank in his bikini bottom. G - where's R? (in the HRD). Walks outside, G announces that he found another ant in the drain. J doesn't think that is a problem. Yet. G joins the outside table where M, J, C & L are playing cards. He tells M that the HOH door is now unlocked. |
Konamouse | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 06:56 pm     G tells the outside group about the food in the SR. L asks if that is for the week? J wants to know if the ice cream is in the deep freezer; he is so worried. Everyone assures him that they can refreeze it. J asks BB to help him out. Feed 1 cuts to D & A in the BR, whispers. Water running makes it hard to hear. Sounds like A is telling her that C is up, no matter what. What ever was said, D agreed. D - I understand what you are saying, this game is going to get harder. A - I was talking to G about when he was HOH, things about M, how he wants you guys to be the last 3. I really thought about how I wanna go home. That is why he is upset, the anniversary thing. At this point, it isn't the worst punishment. I knew that if I didn't win HOH last night, I was out. I might go next week. But when I go, it's been wonderful, I made reality TV history, people like me. D - my faith is that if it is meant to be, it is meant to be, there is always something better out there for me. Amy sounds like she still wants D to win (so she can get her house). Jokes about a website where people can donate $ and supplies. Talks that this is a GAME. She is going to pray about her decisions. D - never make decisions quickly. Do the best you can, think things thru. Nothing is guaranteed in this game, just trying to survive week to week. Eventually everyone has got to go, your time will come. A - wouldn't it be nice to be paid to just hang out. D - you'll have to pry my fingers off the door. But you went out like a lady. A - I just wanted to come back to have some fun. D - I remember my interview….when I get in the house I'm going to have fun. A - I wanna keep it like that until the very end (to have fun). I wanna keep it along those lines as long as I'm here. I'm glad I sat in that nasty tank and won myself an extra week. D - you've been in the lake. A - I'm in the lake, it's okay. This is what it would have been like if the boat would have sank (in Horseshow Lake). They go outside. A talks about running around the airport to find a copy of Vogue, to see who was on the cover for Marci, he's gotta know. And everyone was out (of the magazine). Melissa Elthridge was on the cover of Out. M say's his cover of Out will be fabulous. Amy starts to sing her new BB song . "I wanna be where the HG are, I wanna hear them scheming…out in the compound." FOTH. (speaking of out, my fingers are out, so I have to bow out of LFP, it's been almost 3 hours of straight typing). |
Maesin | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 07:16 pm     g, m, j, l, d, c, playing cards. lost amy during foth. c goes inside to room. roddy lying in bed. c asks r to join living. c leaves r on bed. l goed into bedroom where r is. c says l and her got into fight. l says cus c jumped down her throat, wasnt neccesary. l gave compliment to d and it made c mad. about playing cards, the way d scumbaged. c and l pmsing and they are both emotional. c says like sister bicker. l goes to wc. c and roddy still in bedroom. g and d are outside playing cards still. l is waiting for j to get out of wc. a and m in hoh. middle of conv a close the door i have been kicked out once, not affraid. talked to everyone. know you are going to be mad at me, not concerned, only time hoh, save herself, do what she wants to do. if she didnt make hoh her last week m i dont think that depends if he won hoh a i know, but i want to do what i want to do the only oportunity i have. you get hoh to do what you wnat to to m why jason why not gerry a cus g will go m i dont think g will go something about j being a vote for c m why wont you nom r a he was up last week u know what it's like, i know i am not going to do it. i want her out. thinking and praying about it m i dont want you to, i dont think r should go. what happens if plan backfires, r pov saves c, who goes against j a have to think about that m glory of pov, take someone else out a tell r i put him up cause vote for c simply b/c veto thing m thats how i think it should go a i dont think i have the vote amy is taking her hair out of the braids while she talks to m a not offended by her going out. not holding grudge. if it had been first week, she wouldve been mad, but she says no one lied to her and she is okay with it. when all said and done she wants to be happy with her desicions m seems like easy week, b/c everyone wants one of them out, but not easy a is going to piss everyone off, and she knows she may go home, but she did what she wanted to do m if you do it that way, play into hands, so both of them dont get nom, one can get pov and keep them both here. they will be stronger. dont do what c did with vote rigging a i am not vote rigging m but thats what they did a i feel like i am being rigged. all this preasure is being put on me. so much has changed. i come back and agenda laid out for her. m who has agenda for you a hot tub m c said not to nom r. a no she told me what happened when she was gone. didnt talk about nom. (posting) (first timer, sorry if not so good, just trying to help a little.) |
Kuchi | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 07:19 pm     Amy telling Marc about putting up Chiara and Jason and he quietly but emphatically tells her that if she does not put up Roddy and Chiara then one will win pov and get the other off. He is giving her time to think of this and is reiterating the info again. She realises that they could be playing to keep one of them off the noms so that the other wins pov and then they are strong again after Marc lays it out for her. Marc:whatever you want to do is fine with me Amy: Marc when you were HOH I wanted you to nom Chiara.... Marc:and I didnt Amy: and I didnt care and I dont want you to care. marc: you make your decision and I stand by you. Amy: I would never hurt you Marc. I would never take any side against you Marc: and I would do the same for you. They are now laughing about her hair as she is uncurling her hair. |
Kaytee | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 07:23 pm     Chiara relaying a Diary room entry, the gist... Chi: you know Rich? well I don't have a crush on him but you know...and he knows so much about me and you remember that yeast infection? Well, Im in there and he asks me how're you feeling...I said okay and he said so how's that yeast infection? I was like uh wow..yuk She is in HRD telling this to Roddy and I think Lisa Lisa goes out and she and roddy are alone Chiara bends over and kissed Roddy She asks Roddy if he's ready, he says in a couple Chi in the hallway looking herself up and down in the mirror, fixing hair, up close....far away..okay, wiping something...putting hair up and....done Jason: where ya headed Chi: a party Ja: yeah it looks like you're getting all dressed up there, ready to go Chi: it's cold outside Ja yeah, very cold, is that your shirt? Chi: yeah Jas it looks very good on you Lisa in the HRD room and Ro still there, a little witty repartee between her and him (read: little girl voice and pensive male voice) Lisa is adjusting her shirt, ad microphone Lisa: if you could go anywhere in the world where would it be Roddy: I don't know how bout you I don't know, Siberia chatter Lisa leaves and FOTH |
Kaytee | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 07:33 pm     The braids are coming out! Gonna be a frizzy scene Amy: we just have to keep them from getting it Ill do whatever I have to do Mar: maybe you should put me up against Chiara Amy: Im not putting you up!! Cmon you're safe, you now thta, heck everyone knows that Mar: whatever you do Ill back you up I think if this gambit works and Chiara goes then after that Dani will come around Amy: I dont want her coming after me but if she does, she does Mar: Jason voted for you to come back and Roddy didn't he wanted eric back Amy: he voted to evict me twice (jason) and I know that about Roddy And another thing neither of them have been nominated...at all, we've been nominatedtwice Oh, my poor hair...I got two BIG bottles of conditioner, might take both of them.. Im going to put some on and just pull my hair back and leave it Amy: I just don't want you to be mad at me Mar: I won't be mad at you even if you put Dani up Amy: she's not going up, she's safe I want to send her OUT (Chiara) its the only one Im gonna get, it has to be her |
Izzywhat | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 07:37 pm     Quad Cam -- 7:07 pm BB Time Two views of HRD with C, L & R Two views of G & M playing cards on the patio Audio in HRD where C&L are telling R about a little spat that they had but everything is ok now. L thinks it's cold. R wants to know if there's a power outage scheduled for tonight. The girls jump up and down thinking of what they could all do if there was no power. C changes her top but changes her bra before she takes her top off <ed: some sort of circus performer manipulation, it seems> and puts on a top with sleeves so she won't be cold. Two views of M & Am in HOH and I'm changing feeds to see if I can get the audio. A, I wanna do what I wanna do with it. It's the only opportunity that I'm gonna have. When you get HOH it's your opportunity. M, why Ja? Why not G? A, because G will go. M, why won't you nominate R? A, because he was up last week. I know what it's like, you know what it's like. It's my HOH and I want C to go out when I'm HOH. M tells her about the power of Veto A, maybe I tell him I'm gonna put him up, he's not my choice, but I'm gonna put him up because the POV. M, that's how it should go. A, this is a nightmare. M, I'm not jockeying for anyone. I told R he's between a rock and a hard place. A, I know nobody can understand, but I can't hold a grudge against...nobody lied to me. When this is all said and done I want to be happy about my decisions and I want to be happy about them. I'm gonna look like f*g Bozo clown (A taking out her braids.) A, I'm gonna piss everyone off. But I'm gonna do what I wanna do. M, you're just going to work into their hands. A, who's hands? M, they're working together. If you don't nominate them both and one of them gets POV and the other one votes the other one out then they're both in here. That's what they were doing, vote rigging. A, that's what I feel is happening to me, I feel all this pressure. So much has changed and I come back and it's like I've got this whole agenda laid out for me and I don't have any say in this matter. M, the first person I saw talking to you was C telling you not to vote for R. A, she never mentioned that at all. I asked her what had been going on in the house and she told me. I hate this house. I've been back two days and there's already rumors about me that haven't even happened. She told me about Jo and it was merely catch up. To be honest with you, I'd nominate R, but he was up last week. I don't feel good about it and I want to walk out of here feeling good about what I did. M, whatever you want to do is ok with me. A, I don't want you to care if I don't go the way everybody wants me to go. M, let me say this to you. I will stand by every decision you decide to make. I won't come after you even if everyone else comes after you. If that's what you want to do then you do it and I'll stand by you just like I stood by you when T came after you. A, I would never in a million years do anything behind you. I would never talk about you or do anything bad about you. I'd rather die. M, don't get upset about this nomination thing, do something about that hair! A, I just want to know I have you behind me and that you don't have me. M, I won't tell this decision to anyone else. A, when you were HOH M said he doesn't want anyone to hound him and that's what I told people and I didn't want people bothering you. That's when people came to me trying to play me up and I just told him he's gonna do what he wants to do and he doesn't want anybody bothering him. BB, Ja please go to the DR. A, even when D came to me, I told her that she always told me to give everything you do a lot of thought and that's what I'm doing. M starting to talk about what the other evicted HGs would have done had they returned instead of A and FOTH. A talks again about the first week and the deal she made and how she had to change her mind to not vote against him and this is why she has to play the game according to her conscience and she wants to make her own decisions. When A was growing up she had a friend and everyone told her not to play with that friend but she stuck with that friend and it all turned out all right. (Interrupted in the middle of this conversation, so I didn't get it all.) PP -- M told A to put M up and she refuses to do that. She's sure D will save Ja. Ja and C have never been up. She thinks two against 6 to win the POV should be odds enough to win it and keep R from vetoing C. M, what happens with decoys and you get that person who thinks is safe, but people think it's their opportunity like last week. If Jo hadn't shown his hand, the decoy R would have been voted out. A, I WANT C TO GO OUT THIS WEEK. Plus, it'll make good tv and I wanna do it. M, I hope her man doesn't save her as*. If you do your thing I'll stand by you. Then M & A's own form of drama, drama, drama and M gets and puts on his robe. <I must leave now.> 7:39 BB Time |
Corriecat | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 07:38 pm     Jason please go to the DR. FOTH Amy talking to Marcellas and unbraiding her hair. Keeps saying that she will not do this. Everybody was telling her to listen to Marcellas. She wants to make her own decision. There is risk involved in any decision. Last night she won something she really feels like she earned. She would have sat there til dawn even through the "entrance to hell" because she had to. Mar thinks it is brilliant - put her imprint on the game. She sees Dani's strategy. Nobody knows what BB will do. They will probably throw another curve at the end. They want Chiara out. Mar, Jerry, and Lisa will vote out Kiki. And Danielle. They think about it and then agree Dani will. The only thing to worry about is the veto. Amy worried Jason or Roddy will get veto and use it. Odds are against it thought. She will do whatever she has to do even sit in the toilet. Afraid Dani will use the veto. Mar thinks maybe she should put him up and Amy refuses. He tells her to do what you want to do and he will back her 100% and fight to get the HOH next week and give them both another week. Thinks Dani will come around. She still has to get rid of Gerry the Giant and Roddy - she has bigger fish to fry and won't go after Amy. Mar reminds her Jason voted for you to come back and Roddy didn't. She knows that. Convinced she has the votes to keep Jason in. Talking about they have not been up before. You've been nominated twice and I've been kicked out I doesn't get any lower than this. Still unbraiding her hair. She's worried they will call nominations before she gets it conditioned and straightened again. It's all fluffy and wild from being braided. She wants to send Chiara out. This is her only opportunity. Do you know what good TV that will be. A man in Mexico comes up to her saying get Chiwhorea. Mar won't say a word until she does her thing then he will stand by her. They hug. She asks if she should talk to people tonight and he says no. Tells her to nominate Jason and then say the reason is because she does not know if he would be a vote for Chiara. Amy wonders if you have to nominate 2 people and Mar looks up the rule that says you are required to nominate 2. Mar is going to go for the veto. Tells her not to tell Gerry because he will run to Roddy. Amy is proud of Mar for the food competition. Tells him so many people, even Gerry have bragged about him to her. Amy tells BB that if they would just let her get her braids out they could do nominations tonite because she just wants to get it over with. Mar leaves the room and she asks him to leave the door open. |
Kaytee | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 07:38 pm     Amy: I'll ask about it in the DR Mar pulls out some cardboard program type thing and reads: YOu are required to evict two houseguests; Amy: I was just checking Amy: several people have come in here bragging about you in that competition, I was so proud of you Mar: that was crazy Amy: is it still light outside? Mar: its getting dark Amy: Big Brother after I get these braids out can I just do the nominations tonight cause Im ready Ma leaves and Amy says leave the door open I feel like a hermit all locked up in here |
Kaytee | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 07:51 pm     Dani and Chiara on their way out side Dani: Im going in the HT Chi: you are? good girl...are you alright Dan: um hmm Chi: want to talk to me about anything? Da: uh uh Chi wanna avoid me about anything? Dan: uh uh Dani: just remember, your my girl Lisa has joined them, and the cam suddenly switches to Amy still removing braids and Jason in the doorway chatting Gerry out with the girls now too Lisa: is it just me or have we all been in he DR lots of time all day today Chi: I stewed in thre for awhile Ge: I met your boyfriend in thre Rich? yeah I had a talk to him kinda off the record, nice guy. Chi: Id like to have a talk with him...in my crotch (ed: <snip>) I walked in there and was like oh my god Gerry then tells a story about a SAG friend (screen actors guild) Dani audio difficult (hot tub) Chi: she's not revengeful? Dani: inaudible Chi: right Dani: inaudible |
Kaytee | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 07:56 pm     Now Chiara in the HOH, wow she moves fast, in the time it took me to change cams Amy: I'm freaking out.. Chi: About what Amy: my hair, the noms Chi: well look at it this way, there's a common person in the house that nobody likes or if you put someone else up there will be (ed: enemies?) Amy: yeah, yeah,,,sh*t Chi: if you had been in this house and never left, you would still be HOH and you would know there is only one choice to make. Chi: it's not a revengeful house Amy: and I don't beleive in revenge anyway Amy: I've learned that if someone does something delibertely mean to you. you don't have to do something back. ( I have to run for a bit, anyone?) |
Blaydtwo | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 08:25 pm     Quad Cam shows 1&2 L outside sitting on hot tub, D is in the hot tub 3&4 show k talking to M in one of the bedrooms. Audio is of L & D talking they think M is in the shower gonna switch to see with K is saying to M L says K is making her sick to her stomach |
Whit4you | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 08:35 pm     I said don't be revengeful - if you've thought about putting roddy and me up - the only thing I can say is - that would upset me only due to the fact - I feel that she's a different person and it'd only be done for strategy reasons. She said she understands - she's not out to be vengeful she didn't leave on a bad note - and you wouldn't be the person you are if you didn't get put up - you had a amazing talk with Roddy - these are things you have to remember - Karma works in mysterious ways - You are probably the only person that would walk in not vengeful - you know what I'm saying - we had a nice going away party, it was a unanimous vote. I just said to her - you don't need to make enemies- you can make a lot of friends through HOH or you can make enemies - you can make strategies - or you can do something good for the house - or something good for yourself. I said if you wanna walk in there and not make enemies, then you do what you think the house would want you to do - cause I could gaurantee to you - if you had never left the house - you know who you'd put up - cause there were only two people I would have put up last week as HOH. Marc - what is it you think Amy should do? Chaira - I think Amy should put up Gerry - only because I think you would. Marc - no I can put up anyone I would want to put up - I don't have anything going with anyone. Chaira - but just by going whith what we said when we were in here - when you said you'd put up him - it wasn't about stategy it was just about who was driving us crazy. The only thing she said to me is everyone is talking to me about everyone's strategy.... I just said - well you know you can go with that, but I guess I just wanted to ask you - what you thought she should do..honestly.....cause I think you have alot of say in what she does. marc - Actually I don't. If she was going to do what I wanted her to do - (missed some) She asked me not to put my choice on it. She asked me to stand by her in whatever decision she made - in the same way she stood by me - um...that being said - I mean I know what she's thinking about doing and I agree with her for HER reasons I mean you can't fault her for where she wants to go with her reasons - she has come back into the house without vengance in her heart - we both gave up the idea of vengence chiara- you have to Marc - the same way I felt about lisa and eric being nom'd against each other - if someone decides that's the strategy they want to work - if they feel they have to put that person up - I'm not saying that's what amy is going to do - I'm amazed that - you know - my gripe with the HOH position is that people work their own agenda - people come as HOH they work their agenda - people come to HOH and work their own agenda - when I got it I asked they leave me alone - even though they worked people close to me - that was weeks ago - um .. chiara - I think everyone else figured out who you were going to put up Marc - it wasn't rocket science chiara - the only reason I did was cause we'd already seen it faulter once - I wanted him GONE - I thought he was poisoning this house and making EVERYONE miserable - it didn't matter to me what mattered to me is he was driving everyone crazy making himself the hero in the end - and it drove me f'n crazy - I said to her - I went through a lot of shit last week because he made alot of shit up - he bad mouthed me to the end - but I walked away with no enemies. Haha look what I got rid of, the worst person - anyone who was smart would put him up - he already had 3 deals walking into the HOH competition Marc -right but everyone who had deals with him knew he had the other deals - chiara - I'm not bringing you in here to ask you to do anything - it's just me thinking...that would be a real shame if she did something like that..cause she just got back and if mem serves me correctly - everyone wanted their specific person to come back we didn't make ORD up for no reason - had it been Tonya who won HOH I'd expect that you to do the same thing for me - don't let her be vengeful she hasn't endured what we endured - amy if you never left your choice would be so simply this week - gerry has his own thing - getting rid of Eric and lisa - um I think you know - I aid this the moment she left - the only reason she went up is cause she didn't care about the rest of us - that all changed - she admited she didn't care and that was amazing. Marc - if we wanna say that Amy went out cause she didn't care about the people in this house, please don't cloack that - Josh put it out that Amy went up causde she might put you and Rod up, so don't cloack it as cause she didn't care about the house - (pp) Chiira - no no no - she admits it more then anyone - that she doesn't care about anyone - she knows the reason why she got put up - is because she was going to put us up - what he (??) She even admitted she was leaving because (sorry missing stuff they are both talking really fast) |
Blaydtwo | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 08:37 pm     K says I dont think.. I think amy should put up G and M if he gets it, he can put up who he wants because he doesn,t have any deals with anyone. K says she just wanted to ask M what he thought A should do M says he doesnt have a say that he is giving her what she gave him and not put his twist on it but to just stand by her no matter what decision she makes. He says he knows what she is thinking of doing and he understands it that you can't fault her for it.. he says A came back w/o vengence in her heart, that both of them have given it up. He thinks it is unfair that he was put up with his best friend that no one should have to be in that situation. He says he is amazed with.. that his gripe with the HOH position is that people work their own agenda on the HOH and says how he asked everyone to leave him alone. K is talking about wanting Jo gone how he was poisoning the house, it drove her f***ing crazy. <She is patting herself on the back for getting rid of the worst person in the house and justifing putting R up against him.> M asks her what do you want me to do K says honey, I dont want you to do anything thats not why I came in here. She mentions ORD and is downplaying her role in it. She mentions that A has no say in how this house has been because she has been gone. Mentions that G was going to put up L against her. M says my take on that is completely seperate and maybe it is J that changed his take on it. He says so please dont cloak that in anything your saying because there are two others who are worse in the house. |
Whit4you | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 08:39 pm     MKarc - two wrongs don't make a right - I dont think me and Amy should have been nom'd or LIsa and Eric shoulda been - would I come after the two of you because of that? NO, I've got bigger fish to fry - when it came up that I was hearing that Roddy was coming after me. I went to him.. in retrospect - Roddy putting Amy up - He shoudl have gone to Amy with this is what is going on - then yet another example of how we could have gotten rid of Josh sooner - I don't want the responsibility. What amy is doing because - I don't want the responsibilty cause I don't want the backwash that people will think Amy is working my agenda - she's working her own agenda - she's playing where she left - what we said about ORD - they are still stuck in the moment... we were the direct things against her.. there is no way Tonya would have won HOH I woulda stayed in that tub till hell froze over - I got out cause Gerry turned to me saying if you get out I'll get, out otherwise I'd STILL be sitting there if he were across from me. I don't think she's behaving - I mean.. (FOTH) Marc - what she does - it's an interesting twist to bring her back and her get HOH - and if Rod thought she held any ill will then he should not have gotten out of that tub. Chiar - I don't think he thought that after their convo in the hot tub (pp) The only reason she sat in that thing is she had 18 people telling her that if she didnt win HOH her ass was out... Marc - I don't think they came out and said whatever Chiar - right, you better win HOH or what - no surprise that HOH was about endurance - the only one who'd last is someone who got to relax the past two weeks. It would just upset me after the progress (FOTH) |
Blaydtwo | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 08:39 pm     feed 4 M talking about ORD and if T had come back he would have f***ing sat in the tub of s**t forever because she would have put A and him up. K saying thats why A won because she would have stayed in there forever FOTH |
Itscrazy | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 08:40 pm     Feed 4 Marcellas and Chiara in the HRD. Came in on the middle of this conversation. It sounds like they are rehashing things about Josh c-don't make her revengful. There is one person everyone wants out. I think the only reason Amy went up is because she didn't care about the rest of us. All of a sudden she opened up. M-my take on all this different. Amy went up because she was going to come after you and Roddy. please don't quote that. C-I'm saying, josh put that in my head. I think the other thing is not about me, she admits to it more then anyone. The unaminous vote was because she didn't care about anyone else. M-I don't think two wrongs make a right. I don't think AMy should have been nominated, I don't think I should have been nominated. Would I come after you two for that. No, I got bigger fish to fry. All I can say is this, I don't want the responsibility. I've asked her I don't want the resposibility. Amy's agenda is her agenda. She is playing where she left. There is no way Tonya would have won HOH, I would have sat in that tub until.... What she does and what she doesn't...It's an interesting twist to bring her back and to get HOH C-the things he (Roddy)said about her after she left was like she walked on water. C-it's no surprise that the HOH was about endurance. FOTH I'm trying to get this as fast as I can but I know I'm missing a lot but giving the general gist of the convo |
Sbw | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 08:41 pm     Chiara is now working Marc. She is telling M about telling Amy how she knew she was not going to come back vengeful. She says that she told Amy she could do what was good for the house or for herself. (PP, from what I have read this is what she told Amy and I am leaving out a lot.) Marc: When did you have this talk with Amy. What do you think Amy should do. Ch: I think she should put up Ger. Indicates maybe he couldn't. Mar: I could put up anyone. ...... Ch: Everyone is a challenge at this point. I guess I just wanted to ask you what you thought she should do, honestly. Mar: Actually I don't. If she was going to do what I wanted her to do I think it would go differently. He is telling her about the agreement between he and Amy when he was HOH and he was going to do the same for her. "That being said, I know what she is thinking about doing and I agree with her for her reasons." .... She actually has come back into the house without vengence in her heart. I think both of us gave up the idea of vengence. He indicates that he doesn't feel that "couples" shouldn't be put up and states that he understands why they do that, becuase of POV. "People work their own agenda." That people worked people close to him even though he asked them not to come to him. He said it wasn't rocket science to figure out who he would put up. CH: She said that she put up who she did becuase she didn't want things to falter again. (Trying to get Josh out.) CH: I went through a lot of sh*t last week... but I walked away with no enemies. ... I did a house decision, anyone that was smart would have put him up. MAR: What do you want me to do? CH: Nothing, it is just me thinking that would be a real shame if she did something like that because she just got back. ... We didn't make up ORD for any reason, had it been Tonya and had it been Tonya been HOH, don't make her be vengeful. (Now she mentions Ger putting up Eric and Lisa.) Only reason Amy went out was becuase she didn't care about the rest of us. MAR: My take on that is completely separate. Mar said he feels that Amy went out because of Chi but that he could feel that way because of Josh. CHI: Now she is backing up and saying that was the reason she was put up, but that isn't the reason she was put out. Mar: I don't think that 2 wrongs make a right. I don't Amy should have been nominated and I don't think that I should have been nominated against her. Also mentioned E & L. Says that he would not come after the two of them (C&R) if he was HOH because they were a couple. Now D comes in room. I don't want the responsibility becuase I don't want the backwash on me. He doesn't want the blame for Amy's actions. (Now D leaves!) Marc said that he would have sat in the HOH tub until Ger got out. If Tonya had come back in, he would have sat in that tub forever. Mar said he thinks Roddy should have stayed in if he was so worried. CHI kinda agrees. Chi mentions that "18 people in trailer" told Amy she needed HOH...... rested..... Now FOTH, couldn't have been because of them at that time don't think. Feeds back on, D and A in BR. (Guess they didn't want us to hear anymore.) Now D is asking A what Chi asked her. (I know this is too long, sorry.) |
Blaydtwo | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 08:42 pm     All 4 feeds had a video black out with BB music then came back to D and A in the WC <I'm out to watch the show can someone take over?> |
Itscrazy | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 08:51 pm     All feeds- on Amy and Danielle in bathroom area. Amy still messing with her hair. Amy mumbling about running around...I think about C D-I can't convince people what to do, they do what's best for them. G-what are you trying to do? A-oh, conditioning G_you hot tubbing? D-already did, I'm taking my shower or already took shower??? L& D at dining room table L-I think it's sad this game brings out the ugly L-Chiara slammed the door and pulled M aside A-just for the record....nobody told me anything before I came in FOTH!!!!!!!!! still FOTH...posting |
Sbw | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 08:59 pm     Amy sitting in HOH alone, reading rules? Hear voice of L and D. Saying that they are feeling sorry for Amy. Talking about how tired they are. Dani says that she can't go in HRD. L shuffling cards. Basically saying they are too tired to play the game. Talking about how when "they" are up, the POV is the last thing. D says she is going for it. L: I feel like I don't belong anywhere. D: If I was HOH and my mind was made up wouldn't talk to anyone about the game (PP) They sit at the table making idle conversation. Lisa said that her feet were cold but that she was scared to go in there. They discuss how they need a lounge for their convos. Dani peaking out back door. |
Sbw | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 09:07 pm     A and D in HOH. Dani asked who she was going to nominate. Amy talking about pressure she is under. "I still want to know what yu are going to do." Amy lets her in on Jason v Chiara. Dani: My question is this... "if the devil gets free who are you going to put up in its place". A: There is only one person that would do it. Amy stating that she is going to ask for his word. Amy is going to ask him what he would do about it. Dani said he will give you his word.... D: Do whatever you want to do Amy. Preaching about revenge, not revenge. D: Do what is best for you in this game. Amy said if it doesn't want she can only blame herself. (Hard to hear, Amy's music is in the background.) Amy tells her that asked for Ger's word. She tells Dani she has the votes to out her. She is telling that she knows it is a gamble but that anything is a gamble. Amy states that she is still thinking about it. Asks Dani who else to put up. Amy telling her that it is not right to put Roddy up against. Amy saying Jason hasn't been up yet. Dani says that she hasn't been put up and that she doesn't want to be put up. FOTH |
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