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Moderator | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 02:03 am     Debate your opinions pro and con of the character of the Houseguests. Keep in mind that we are discussing the one named characters being portrayed in an artificial environment, keep the real life person out of it, we don’t truly know the real people. No bashing of fellow posters will be tolerated. Language standards will be enforced. This thread is more loosely moderated but is not moderation free. Excessively harsh posts may be moderated. If you choose to defend a favorite houseguest in one of these threads don’t let yourself get emotionally hammered. Every houseguest has at least one defender who can emotionally detach themselves, if you can’t do that, stay out of these threads |
Earthmother | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 06:52 am     This guy has so many issues with himself he can't seperate them from others. He behaves like a bully on the school yard. His perception of himself is so blown out of proportion that he blows all things out of proportion. If indeed he thinks his intervention sessions (I prefer to call it humiliation therapy) are justified then he apparently doesn't have the verbal skills to get his point across without using anger, demoralization and crudenss. He is not intelligent and it shows every time he opens his mouth. He seems to view every act of kindness as an attack on him, or thinks that they are using him, and therefore crushes any hope of ever having a true loving relationship based on trust. He only sees superficial compliments as real and is so conceited that he suspects everyone of being jealous of him to help justify his behavior. I see an insecure, sad little man. His mother, by her own admission, loves him but can't accept who he is, that's gotta hurt a lot. He has to tranfer that hurt to the people he cares about because that's what love is to him. He has been judged by the people he loves negatively and therefore must judge the people who love him in the same way. I am not surprised he has failed relationships. No one can ever live up to his standards and he can't live up to the ones that his loved ones have set for him. Makes for a very unhappy, cruel person. |
Spunky | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 08:47 am     There are so many other threads on dissing Marcellas, why not stick to this one?? I liked him a lot at first (I always like the underdog) but this guy now is ....annoying (to use his words). He's "tormented" (another of his words) and can't let go... Imagine living with him, it would be so depressing!! He's taking everything so seriously and can't let go! That poor Amy is one of his victims, he likes to peck on, he almost has either no sense of humor or a very dry one... Marcellas, lighten up! |
Bastable | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 10:39 am     Marcellas has just caved under the pressure of this game. He's become extraordinarily NASTY! Cruel to Amy--over and over, to her face and behind her back--on national TV! He's done more to soil her reputation than she's done to soil it herself. I used to like him but he's devolved into an unpleasant drama queen. Always says something negative (despite his vow to play a "clean" game). I hate the sound of his voice on the feeds. I think the real reason he dislikes Amy is she's good at stealing the spotlight from him. He needs to GO before he embarrasses himself more. Amy may be drunk, but he's just cruel--and I know he would HATE that about himself if he could only see it. |
Spunky | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 11:49 am     From the number of posts here, looks like Marcellas is a favorite..eh, eh.. |
Ddsbarefootagn | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 12:11 pm     Marci was my favorite at first - after his initial pouty session the first night. I loved his sense of humor and his drama when it was funny. However, his constant nastiness behind other people's backs and treating Amy like a red-headed stepchild make me ill. Last night on the show when he was on the exerciser and talking so nasty to her I was thinking to myself, Girl, get back in his face! He'd do that to me about twice and I'd reduce HIM to a puddle of tears. There is no excuse for his behavior. And in my opinion he is delusional if he thinks Dani is going to take him to the end. |
Buzzelda | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 12:26 pm     Earthmother, that was a wonderfully compassionate assessment of "what makes Marcellas tick." Marcellas reminds me of people I've known who believe, for whatever reason, that they are unloveable and set out to prove themselves right by pushing people who try to love them away with bad behavior. People are feeling sorry for Amy because she is being mistreated, but I feel sorry for Marcellas because resentment, anger and fear seem to do more damage to the vessel. Amy will be able to walk away, but Marcellas must live with Marcellas for his lifetime. I hope someone loves him enough to help him. |
Shyguy | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 01:03 pm     Earthmother - excellent critique. Bastable - I think you hit the nail squarely on the head. Marc can't stand not being the center of attention, and he can't be when Amy is around. She has personality and is entertaining. Two qualities that he lacks. |
Jkm | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 01:17 pm     My wish ----Next time he pulls his nasty - this is for your own good speach out -- She pours the wine or beer on his head--- With his germ issues, that would surely send him over the edge. Just once I'd like to see someone stand up to the others (really wishing now -- with sound reasonable logic) and nail him back!!!! Call him on his behavior - don't let him turn it around on them!! Looking for the first star tonight to make my wish... Think I'll go outside now and wait for dark...nagh -- too long to wait.. |
Dee723 | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 01:19 pm     Marcellas is just cruel and self-absorbed, There's really nothing to debate. I wish someone would call him on his behavior too the way he calls Amy on hers. |
Solitaire30606 | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 01:33 pm     Marcellas is Histrionic... Period. He needs to GO. (And to think I felt sorry for him early in the game). |
2addicted | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 01:41 pm     Like many here I loved Marc at first and then became severely disappointed. Ironically, I believe he is more intelligent than I first thought, which makes his bad behavior (most noticably to Gerry and Amy)even more inexcusable. (But he sure does make me laugh out loud) Why Marci, why?? I wanted to have SOMEONE to root for! |
Auntiemike | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 01:44 pm     I agree with your assessment, Earthmother. Unfortunately, I think Marcellas would crumple and disintegrate before our eyes if anyone were to truly stand up to his bullying and cruel tactics. Once he is faced with himself I don't think he would like himself very much...that would be the point he could either choose to grow and change or stay the same and not be responsible for himself. He is one sad character and I don't believe the house/isolation has "made him that way". He is at least being true to himself; just doesn't handle the stresses very well and he is more vulnerable. |
Whit4you | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 09:32 pm     I was for Marc all the way - till I got to know him a bit. Now I see nothing to debate about regarding Marc. Anyone who thinks Marc is anything but someone in serious need of some serious help - would be someone who's opinions I'm not interested in. Nuff said |
Nimtu | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 09:35 pm     I think Marcellus needs an intervention. |
Snee | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 10:02 pm     i loved marcellas and still like a lot about him (he is often so funny in DR sessions) but i agree with earthmother and bastable said. 2addicted, you said it for me. *sigh* |
Snee | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 10:04 pm     auntiemike, i think he IS disintegrating; no calling him out needed. |
Jaxrock | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 10:12 pm     Bravo, Earthmother. I can only add what I saw elsewhere on this board...the man doesn't have issues, he has subscriptions! (I love that saying, been using it at work, lol) |
Misslibra | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 10:27 pm     I didn't care to much for Marcellas at first. Then him and Amy team up since they were like the odd people out. They became close friends and I enjoyed seeing them both. When Marcellas isn't bashing someone and he is just telling it like it is I can agree with him on some things But then Marcellas's other side showed, and it was very ugly at times, almost unbearable to watch. Right now if I were to rate him from my point of view of him at this moment he would be a 4. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 01:27 pm     The one thing that have learned from Marcellas is that the ceiling for the amount of concentrated nastiness that can be contained in one person is MUCH higher than I ever realized. The few truly hateful people I know actually seem nicer to me now.
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Mollywood | Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 01:32 pm     i hope your right sanfran, watching the feeds, it feels so weird to see them accusing people of things they are doing right that minute....i hate him. i really do earthmother had it right..sad little man..empty....he is who he wears. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 01:35 pm     It just occerred to me...someone previously posted a link to some evening wear tuxedo ad or something that Marcellas is currently in. I wonder if the company that produces such refined, elegant clothing and presents them in ads (set in glamourous, sophisticated settings) will want to have a man that cries and throws tantrums and acts out in extremely hateful ways to continue to represent their designer clothing lines. New ad campaign - "Cry and whine your way to hateful cruelty and character assasination in our elegantly designed clothing..." Just wonderin'...
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Earthmother | Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 01:37 pm     lol, Sanfran...Dani works in advertising maybe she can help... |
Willsfan | Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 01:37 pm     I doubt that even after viewing the tapes of himself after the BB show is over marcellas will find anything that "he" did wrong. He is a star in his own mind. He will see everyone elese's mistakes. |
Spunky | Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 05:47 pm     He's cutting his own throat... let him rant again and again, he's doing the same thing Roddy did. He's just a bit luckier than there is at least one who wants him to stay and that's Danielle. But his bitterness and complete lack of humor will tire the others and I just wish someone there would tell him: "Take it easy. You're prettier when you smile." |
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