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Dipo | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:36 pm     Cam 4 now a shot of the living room, distant shot. Looks like Gerri in chair, female laying on sofa, must be Lisa since I think Chiari is with Roddy. Guy on other sofa. Can hear talking in backgroud. may be the people in the living room. No Tonya enters the room and sits on sofa. Can;t figure out whaqt they are talking about. Danille comes in and take a pillow. The LR people are playing some sort of game, can't tell what. Trying a new cam. |
Wargod | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:43 pm     Feed 4 FOTH Feed 1 FOTH Switches to bathroom, Marcellas putting on aftershave or something. Tonya sitting in chair wearing sweater talking aout how cold it is in the house. Lisa and Macellas walking away together. Josh sitting at table with Tonya. Switches to HOH bed with Marcellas and Lisa. They're talking about the HoH room, the people on other side of walls. Marcellas Saying he doesn't want her to feel stress due to nominations. Telling her remember thier conversation about the original 6. Lisa We did have the talk day before you got HOH. It was nice to get to talk to you and clear the air. She was floored when he didn't nominate her. She is thanking him. Marcellas that little speech I made, mumble, mumble, what I said was how I felt. It wasn't payback, since I kinda knew how it went down. Gerry had bigger hand than he wants me to know. I hate that this has turned into a morality test. Lisa thinks there's two bad people in house, Gerry and Josh...she thinks when they're gone the house will be better. Telling Marcellas that the original 6 was just an agreement. Marcellas thinks they're trying to get out from that one person. I asked people, but told two biggest mouthed people, that I didn't want people telling me who to nominate, or jockeying to not be nominated. Josh did come to him...I listened to him with open mind, but then realized that it's not words that speak but actions. Lisa I was same way. When I made nominations, I listened to the group, but when the veto came down that was my decision. And Gerry came in and told me what was down, and she didn't want that. Marcellas whispering. Lisa I believe Danielle wanted that so bad, she supported your decsion. Marcellas mumbling...wants to stir the pot, make it interesting. Lisa Gerry came in and said he was going to use the veto, make it interstng TV..like a soap opera. I feel like you have a closer relationship with Danielle so she'll support you. I don't think she'll use the veto, unless she truly dislikes one of the two people. (Ed. visitors, have to go, hope someone is here!) |
Whit4you | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:46 pm     Lisa - I think there are two negative people in the house, Gerry and Josh, and once we get the two of them out (missed some) I was floored - has Gerry really done anything that wrong to you that you think you can verbilize it like that Lisa's talking very anti Josh to Marc at the moment - implying she's not in an alliance with Josh at all. marc - now it's back in my lap what is Danielle gonna do? Lisa - Danielle wanted that bad (the veto) I don't think she wants to change it marc - but Danielle wants to stir it up - in a weird way she's as loose a cannon as Josh is. Lisa - that's what Gerry said to me - alot of his using the veto had to do with creating drama for television, this isnt days of our lives this is Big brother - he hasn't talked to me since... I'm not going to throw insults at him but marc - this is creapy Lisa - I think you have a closer relationship with Danielle then I do but I feel she really supports your decision, unless she really dislikes one of the two you put up marc - I don't know things are working out so crazy in this f'n house - I had my bags packed and I was like f it I'm just going to go hit the panic button Lisa - I think that's what you needed to relax Marc - exactly Lisa - and now you have this awesome friendship with eric and roddy - when you got HOH my first thought was - that X boyfriend of yours is cringing with the turnaround marc - ya that was awesome television Lisa - and that's how it's meant to be - I'm sure eeryones getting sick of me saying that but I really believe you are HOH because it's meant to be - the winner of this whole thing will be a winner for a reason marc - ya it couldnt have worked out better - if I'd been watching the show I'd think it had to be totally scripted - the pretty girl gets HOH so she gets the most camera time - and then it turns out that the boy that was supposed to be out of the house... I love it when Roddy talks about the Vegas odds and if they are keeping bets - Marc would be 12 to 1 and now I'm up to 8 or something - I think that's interesting and kinda funny. It's so intersting to be in this thing.... Lisa - I think all 12 of us are here to learn our lesson in life - it's a once in a lifetime thing - even actors can't get this opportunity to get in touch with themselves. Marc - the game is of course about me vrs you but the most important aspect of the game is you vrs yourself I was losing the game because I was battling my own demons and they were taking me out of the game. Since the first day I've learned so much that I can apply to other areas outside of the house, I've learned that I don't have to protect so much, that people can be nice, that I don't have to hide parts of my personality going into a forgien situation. I also have a bone to pick with the producers because alot of that - during the casting process alot was to do with me battling that..that deamon. Eric walks in and inturpts them - Marc invites him to join them.- |
Curlyq | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:50 pm     Marcellas is talking privately to Lisa about Danielle. Lisa thinks Danielle won't veto, but Marcellas thinks she will do it to create drama. He sees her as another "loose cannon". Lisa says Gerry used his veto to create drama for TV, and that she warned him it wouldn't go the way he wanted and now he won't talk to her. Talking again about everything happening the way it's meant to be and for a reason. Lisa thinks all 12 are there to learn their lesson in life. You couldn't stage this better. Marcellas has learned that people can be nice and he doesn't have to hide or protect so much of his personality. He felt the casting process added to his feeling that he was going to be "the black f*g." Eric and Jason invade. Lisa's toe is turning green. Polite conversation about Marcellas' sister. He has a picture of her and another of one of his friends who is a model. M-She looks like Halle Berry and sometimes like Veronica Web. "If given the opportunity to queen out Marcellas will full-out Vogue it." [regarding the photo shoot he was doing during the BB kidnapping] He thought he'd be able to put them off until Wednesday when they came to kidnap him. |
Dipo | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:53 pm     Cam 1 M is talking about how Josh came to him and made his pitch. You don't show you who you are with your wordss you show me with your actions. Lisa is in the room with him. L thinks Josh's litte speech was ridiculous. Veto thing, this is my decision, I had the groups decision at heart when I made my decisions. Gerry was part of the 6 and G tries giving me the speil, and go totally against what he wanted. you tell me to do something I am not going to do it. M. Now its back, whats Danielle going to do. I am just Like Jesus Christ Superstar. L I think Danielle supports your decision and she doesn't want to change it. M In a weird way she (Dani) is as loose a cannon as Josh(?) Missed some of the convo. M Its creepy. L I feel in my heart that she supports your decision and is not going to use it unless she dislikes one of the two so much that she saves the lessor of evils. M things work so crazy in this house. I am just goiong to walk up and hit the panic button. L that is what you needed so you could relax. M It couldn;t have worked itself out better. If I was watching the show, I would think it was totally scripted. We know it is not, but it is wokring out that way. The boy that is on his way out the house, he's king of the shit. Love how roddy talks about the vegas odds. It is so crazy to be in this thing. L I think that all 12 of us are hear to learn lessons in life. To get in touch with yourself. M The most important aspect of the game is man versus himself. I was battling my own demons and it almost took me out of the game. People can be nice, I don;'t have to hide or protect so much of my actual personality. I have a bone to pick with the producers, I am going to be the black , me battleing that demon. Someone is holding the door. Eric and Jason come in. Is this your sister, M says that's a white girl LOL. Eric figures out which piture is his sister. Now all talking over each other. Jason indicates she is beautiful. M I don't like that picture, but it is a .... One of my closest friends that was there the day I was picked. She is a model, we go on castings together, have lunch every day. Looks like Halle Berry, and sometimes looks like Vernoica Webb. It was good TV that they dumped my key, it was in her pants. If given the opportunity to queen out, marcellus will rise to the occassion. They did a photo shoot. We will just shoot the same clothes, it became this crazy thing, then my sister comes along and I had no idea they were coming to get me. I was going to tell them I couldnt go until Wed. The photographer gave me my first agency, and this really nice thing going on, had models, so the crew is there and they are shooting, I am totally gueening out, I am screamming they guys are shooting the phot shoot. then you have this whole thing with Elana working without her top. I still don't get it. Everyone knows, but he is not getting it and was queening out. I am telling everyone what to do. I make my little assistant doing stuff. I am worried coming into the house thinking everyone is going to know I am the . Never tells the end of the story. posting. |
Dipo | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:58 pm     Cam 1 now foth. Moving on. |
Dipo | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 04:02 pm     back, now they are discussing colonic's. M is giving this whole discussion of what the benefits of this and how you get a really flat stomach. Eric and Jason seem to be somewhat appalled. M said he does them every other month. Takes a class for a month out of your life you eat raw, do colonis, implants,etc. Once you start eating raw, your body adjusts to it. You take these huge craps and they smell like nothing. When you are on it you go 6-7 times to day. This not fun to transcribe I am going to another camera. |
Dipo | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 04:05 pm     Cam 4 shot of Toyna laying on the sofa covered with blanket. Can hear Amy in backgroud telling a story. Saying she is so private. Danielle talking with her, audio not too good. switching to 3 |
Dipo | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 04:06 pm     Cam 3 Shot of Roddy and Chiara sleeping on sofa, saw Gerri go into HOH room, I think. Seems like everyone in with Marcellus. Don't hear Amy and Danielle any more. Will go back to 1 Gotta go in half hour, anyone out there to pick it up. |
Dipo | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 04:16 pm     Cam 1 Back to HOH room and they are still talking about the class. Eric looks like his is sleeping in the chair. Gerri has joined the group. Talking about how he was unhappy in New York and the holistic class helps you get in touch with yourself. You are looking out what your problems really are. L Can you eat Tofu M She said you have to do it for yourself, doesn't recommend tofu. L Hard to get your months worth of proten from nuts. M then you start looking at kale or spinach Jason Asking how much in carbs, protiens, etc. M She does, but I don't have it in my head. Tried Fit for Life, 40/30/30 thing. Says that Dairy you should never do. Jason How do they feel about pasta. M You constantly have to have the book with you, it gets confusing. It almost becomes a macrobiotic diet and you are always working out. JA I have always heard you shouldn't eat 90 minutes before your workout. L have you done the diet for your blood type? i did it for 2 months and was the happiest I have ever been. M In the US it is too hard to do it becasue if you want something good it is hard to find, but McD's etc are everywhere. G Talks about how many fat kids there are. PE teacher says all the kids have excuses why they can;t do class. J I was with my band in Alabama, and they took me outside and i did some video, then they did the song again, David, I think one of the microphones fell in the pianao. So I pick up the lid and I say, Who put this key in the piano, I didn't get it. Then I picked it up and it was really cool, then said I had two hours. FOTH |
Dipo | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 04:22 pm     M did they come to the firehouse? E Yes, they came to the firehouse and my sister got married the night before so I was up late. So we were shooting around the firehouse, okay so I want to get a picture of you putting on your pants, I stick my leg in and there is something in it, so I pull it out and throw it over, and I see the key, but I think they are doing something, don't screw it up. Finally he figures out it is a key, and didn't believe it at first. He threw it away three times. G They had him ask quesitons of all the kids so they could all raise their hands, my son was in the class and he had the key. My son was pumped and yet concerned because I was going to be gone. Ja then the reaction, calling my grandparents, chitcatting, telling about how his grandfather starting crying, cuz I am really close with him. G they took me from my school to my house which is really weird, almost missed my family. my son started singing cats in a cradle. L they came to the bar. A customer came up and ordered this drink. It took a few tries before she realized it was the key. I thought my friends were messing with me. E they said you are one of 20, so I wasn't going to get to pumped until I was sure. I have to leave now ... someone pick up. |
Curlyq | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 04:24 pm     Amy, Danielle, and Josh in Tiki Room. Amy and Danielle talking about forgiving people. Amy says she's very forgiving if the person wants forgiveness, but she doesn't like to have to keep forgiving and forgiving and forgiving if they keep hurting her. Amy talks about her ex-boyfriend. FOTH Amy's story continues. She jokingly called her boyfriend gay. FOTH again. He told her "You can't handle rejection." She told him "If I couldn't handle rejection you wouldn't be here now." New story. Met a guy. Decided to get him. She went out with him a few times. She feels like she didn't "win" him though because he wouldn't have made it so easy for her to let him go. She never gets to keep the man. It always ends. She never gets to keep contact with them. Josh just woke up disoriented. She's gotten everything she ever wanted but love. Danielle says Amy needs to show her weak side. Josh agrees that she's never going to get love because she doesn't let people in. Amy loves the thrill of the chase. She gets tired of it after a while in a relationship. The game is fun but can we settle down and act like normal people? Josh with Tonya in LR now. Josh- I don't think she's using it.[Danielle and the veto] People are coming out of HOH room. The lockdown is over. Shades are being lifted. |
Cyn | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 04:32 pm     jason's story of learning that we was a hg for the summer of 2002. time spoken: 4:20. Jason – I literally didn’t think I was goin on that Saturday. You have two hours and I was w/ my band. Lisa – you have a band? Jason – yeah, a band in alabama. so, any way, we played a few times through; and anyway, they took me outside and did some videoing outside; and, I came back in; and, he was like let’s go through that song again. So, the guy on piano sort of counted the band off. there was just this terrible noize on piano and everyone stopped, and the guy who plays keyboards or piano, david, goes, "I think one of the microphones fell inside the piano." There’s microphones just sort of free floating in there to try and pick up everything inside the lid. So, I open it up and I’m like who put a key inside the piano. And, then, I look down again and I start reading it. And, you know, it’s Congratulations! You are the big brother houseguest or whatever. And, so then, I picked it up and I was going crazy. My brother palys guitar in our band. I sing. And, so I went and started hugged him and these guys in the band. And, they were like “what, what’s going on?” Cuz nobody knew. It was like they then moved everybody outside. And, it was, like, really cool. And, then, ahh… it was a fun day. And then, they kidnapped me… FOTH |
Whit4you | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 04:35 pm     Marc and Gerry talk - they discuss Danielle and her possible use of Veto - Marc mentions to Gerry that he threatened Danielle with returning in kind if she does him wrong and told Gerry that Danielle said she had his (Marc's) back. Marc tells Gerry that Lisa sounds like she is wanting to get rid of JOsh as well and that she'd implied that she wishes she'd done her new nom differently..ie Josh .. Marc just said she implied this not that she actually said she wishes she had nom'd Josh. Marc - Once you get rid of the nuecance (Josh) then you can start playing the game. Do you get rid of Tonya cause she's a ho? Do you get rid of Danielle because she's playing the game well? (listed a # of other examples) Marc - First I had a crush on Roddy now I have a crush on Eric (ed: or the revearse..unsure lol) Danielle comes out and they change the topic to Laundry. |
Curlyq | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 04:36 pm     Eric and Lisa are doing laundry outside. Lisa hoses down her clothes. Gerry and Marcellas playing cards and discussing earlier convos. M She actually said her nomination after the veto should've gone a different way.[Lisa] She did say she wants Danielle to leave it as it is and I think that's what everybody wants. Danielle is the wild card. She wanted that veto. She wanted some screen time she got it. G That's why I let her have it. M I told her that if she does something I don't agree with I will respond in kind, which isn't that much of a threat. G Did she take that well? M She was like "I know what you want and I have your back." M says once they get rid of the distractions then they can really play the game according to who is the biggest threat. "Do you get rid of Lisa because she's well-liked? Do you get rid of Roddy because he's smart? Do you get rid of Tonya because she's a ho?" He says he had a crush on Roddy, but now he has one on Eric. They all laugh that Roddy slipped his pants into Lisa's laundry. Danielle is now sitting with G and M. Talk turns to laundry. M tried to put all of his clothes in the HOH laundry bag. |
Whit4you | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 04:53 pm     In the group if the end happens to be you and I happen to go they will stick together... we got to get rid of Tonya - or the girls will outnumber the guys. If Josh goes... You think Josh is going? Eric - me you and LIsa - in light of what ? said yesterday she angered Dani bigtime - she's an idiot by the way - I mean I went off on a tangent to Lisa about that - because of her f'n tits she thinks she's a queen. Did you see the game me and ? play - every time she mentions a name brand me and her hit each other. She gets 15 BBs a day. Ruddy - that's what I'm saying if it's me you and (?) (the sound keeps cutting off here no idea why it appears to me that BB is doing it) It seems to me we've got alot of juice right now but we can't spread it to thn Ruddy - f' the alliance keep yourself alive but know we can count on votes Eric - the orignal 6 would have gone perfect if it wasn't for ...? It's obvious that we will stick together - I'm telling you I will stick to what I said, don't allow it to get to the point where Evderyone else is not in gets picked off one by one or we are f'd Not only are you and I - targeted because we are in the alliance - but you are because your a perfect player for this - I'm telling myself that I'm going to keep to my word cause that's right - but I'm not going to alienate myself (ed: the net is actually on a delay that's why the confusion in this post..and BB APPEARS to be cutting off their wors but I'm not sure about that, but it clearly IS on a delay) Ruddy - I'm cool with everything I said before minus Gerry - if we lose Josh we do lose a vote but the thing is it's so random - I don't think Dani is going to save Josh - but that doesnt mean Josh is gone... I dont know if she's going to save him but I don't think she's going to vote against him but I can't say that for sure... Marc might forgive Josh but he might not want him either. Why would she vote for Tonya though? Ruddy - She mentioned yesterday she's not sure - Why? I'm not sure I can't read her mind. Eric - I'm in LIsa's head and I can clearly see myself hanging out after this, bottom line is I know I can trust her on other issues. First if I think Josh is always finding out what's going on making people scared, he's always playing the game and it makes people scared. I told him I don't need to talk about this shit all the f'n time. Ruddy...The thing is if you and I talked about Marc for hours and then you saw me go talk to Marc for an hour in the room - and there's alot of that with him Eric ...He's classic his type is classic for multitasking - he could somehow dance and make it through this thing - to be honest with you - what if Josh were head of household - what sort of stuff would he pull. The game is so different because it's so random because of the veto's - here's the thing would you rather have someone you know and I've even proven it with the Gerry thing remember that.... (ed: who's saying which thing could be incorrect because of this delay and their voices being so similar I dont know) |
Curlyq | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 05:06 pm     Danielle discussing her family. She sometimes sees herself in her kids' faces. She says her mom wears jeans and still looks good. Her mom is beautiful. She has like 250,000 pairs of shoes like Imelda Marcos. Marcellas' mother is a pack rat. He used to get her a Gucci purse for every birthday. Now he wants to sell all those bags on Ebay. The vintage Gucci is back in style. He could probably sell them for a grand each. She doesn't use them but she must still have them. Switch to Eric and Roddy. R They've said in a million different ways that they're sticking together. We've got to get rid of Tonya. E Josh is gone. R I vote to keep Josh. Lisa yes. Me, you, Lisa. In light of what T said yesterday I wouldn't doubt Dani would get rid of her. She offended her. She's an idiot by the way. I went off on a tangent with Lisa about that. Her and her f'in t*ts.Kiki and I play a game where everytime she mentions a brand name we look at each other. Me you Lisa Danielle. What about Jay? What about Amy? E This whole alliance thing is not going to help us. F the alliance. Eric now realizes they screwed up by joining an alliance. E Not only are you and I targeted because we're in an allliance, but you're targeted because you're perfect for this game. E doesn't want to go against R in the end because he'd lose. He wants to get away from alliances because he now sees that it makes them targets. It's so random with these contests that anything can happen. He tells Roddy to work on Chiara to support Josh and not Tonya. He asks R if he can trust her. E feels he can trust L. R thinks Josh is scaring people by always trying to find out what's going on. There's also something else. I'll wait till tonight to tell you about it. A brand new thing that happened. E To be honest with you I have the same feelings in that who would he axe first? What if Josh were HOH. In week 3 to week 6 what'll happen. R Would you rather have someone who you know, and I proved it with the Gerry thing... Switch to Lisa and Chiara doing laundry. They are laughing about someone [Amy?]. They note that the guys are in serious game mode right now. Lisa is whispering and the washboard drowns her out. The DR asked if she noticed the flirting between Amy and Roddy. Lisa told them what's happening with Amy is for votes, but with Chiara it's more real. C felt bad about Amy wanting to open up to her last night. Amy's used to everything being done for her. She's mad that A didn't pick her for a game. Back to E and R. They want him around so he can keep getting put up every week and that's one less spot for them to be nominated to. E You need to work her. The bottom line is this. Tonya is an idiot. She's not a pawn. R I think we have no say in what they're going to do at all and Tonya is going to listen to those two girls. E After last night L and I almost made a pact. I made my allegiance to the guys. R The girls made it clear they're going to stick together. If Josh goes we need a guy vote. R Everyone thinks they're best friends with Dani and someone's got to be wrong. E You're right. They both think Dani was instrumental in T being put up. R If T goes I'm guilt-free. She was never aware of things...After this week I think M will vote G out. I think it's strange he didn't put G up. They feel Josh's hatred of G takes the attention off them. R doesn't like that they think he's got half a brain and he's charming. R I'm telling you now that if I was depending on T's vote and so was Lisa, she'd vote L. You'd better not be backing down on our original thoughts of sticking together. E I'll tell you right now I do not want to go up against you in the end. If it's you, me and someone else I don't know. E explains that the last HOH decides who goes home in 3rd. |
Whit4you | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 05:08 pm     Eric is talking about someone josh?? Eric Half the people would put him up every week and that's one less spot we would have to fill Ruddy? - I think we have no say in what Tonay would do at all Eric? - I can honestly say taht Lisa and I almost made a pact that we are going to keep each other in the loop - and I also said the more that we sleep in each others bed - ..first of all I like my own bed so i'm not going to do that. In the end I made an alliigence to the guys and I wont have a problem telling her that in Las Vegas. Ruddy -the girls have made it clear that they are in an alliance - so we need someone to join us Eric - what I'm trying to say is I think Dani looks at that clique of three and thinks f' you I don't think she talks to Tonya that much - she doesnt like Tonya - that goes way deeper then this show Ruddy? - I don't think dani's going to put anyone up then for veto Eric? - if Tonya goes - I have no bond with tonya I have no pledge - she's never approached me with anything Your right about Josh - they are gonna put him up every week - but the thing that's cool about that - because Josh is so emotional - like I think it's strange that Marc didnt put Ger up - the fact that Josh is so anti Gerry works in our favor it puts alot of the attention off us Rod people think I have half a brain - I don't like the fact that they think Rod is this and that Eric - that's good - when they think of someone to put up - they don't think to put Rod up - because you didnt pull a fast one on someone - however later on in the game - it'll be like I don't want to compete against Rod but for right now go with it. What the hell is the point - later on the game is alot sooner then you think - you get trhough week 5 or week 6 Rod - I swear to god by week 6 - I think one vote when there is 6 people left is going to decide if your in or not. Tonya's never f'd me over but if I was depending on her vote she's gonna vote Lisa - I think people can make an early exit thinking they are going to be a bunch of weekly. You better not be backing down on our orignal plan to stick together -!!! Eric - I tell you right now I don't want to compete with you in the end. But if I get 500 grand I promise in the end I'll take care of you - I think obviously if you want to win HOH when there are 3 people left - you want HOH obvi ously because you want to win. Once it's down to the last 2 the people outside decides who wins.. so when there are 3 left whoever wins HOH - and I just thought if it was me and Roddy against someone else I'd have to get rid of Roddy then - I hope that doesnt rub you the wrong way but I'd expect you tio think the same thing. (ed: Cam switches to the people insde.. Tonya STILL carrassing Josh's head...) |
Curlyq | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 05:11 pm     E complaining about T asking people to do everything for her. She thinks because of her breasts she can treat people like that. "I've seen hotter chicks at the supermarket." [I think that was Roddy] E goes off on how she has slices on her body. He then makes fun of how she doesn't eat right. [AUGH! I missed the first 15 minutes of the TV show. Gotta go] |
Whit4you | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 05:15 pm     Eric - again I think IF - since Dani is a wildcard - because of what Tonya did because Tonya could hurt us more - because she's anti guy right now - if she goes obviously if we keep Josh it's huge - it's like making two (losing one keeping one) Josh it makes me nervous - don't you think that...again you got to be careful about the relationships - if you two are spending so much time together you and ?chici Roddy - her and I would cancel each other out and it'll shake out elsewhere... this part is so early - you know what I mean? Amy has to go .. Gerry has to go ..Marc still has to go.. We've got to get one or two HOH's in a row and get rid of those guys...no matter how much we like them .. we have to get everyone's approval. Eric - but if we are not on the same page it wont work Ruddy - Tonya is an easy one to put up I'm not going to do it now because there are other people to put up first. If Marc decides to put up Gerry tonight we would be at such an advantage. Eric - we should pick this up later - but I'd really like you to talk to Chiara. Ruddy - we were sitting there and I've always kept it up in the back of our mind that we would nave hve to bring it up again but it's such a strange feeling now to hear you say I'm not going to do it - you saying when the 4 weeks are up your going to zap me. Just now you said if the last 2 weeks are left your going to kick me out. Eric - this is how the game goes - the last week the HOH sends someone home - the other person stays with the HOH and they are voted on. And the reason I say that is because I'd get 500 grand - maybe I just shot myself in the foot for saying that Ruddy - it makes it much better because unless you had said this - I would have said we had a deal to be the last two and you broke it. I would have said Eric and I had a deal to be the last two - and he broke it so - you would have guranteed to lose the last two. Like last year the girl who lied in the 2nd to last week lied. Especially in the last 2 weeks. Josh - joines them Josh - Think about him he's lied to so many people (ed: this is only capturing part of the convo but the JIST of it is that Ruddy is glad that Eric admitted NOW rather then later that he will vote him out on the last HOH - but he's totally implying as well that him breaking that agreement NOW is gurantee-ing him the loss confusing) |
Whit4you | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 05:22 pm     Ruddy - afterwords I'd go to the interview ...He told me for 11 weeks and said I had your back no matter what - and then the moment I had a chance to screw you and I did So I'm glad you brought that up because both of us have to be honest. Eric Lisa...I'm in a weird spot though - she basically....she's horney wow...bigtime bigtime...I so want to just tell you everything (laughs) (Ed they are using eye signals and totally giggling.) Ruddy... Here's the deal..I'm not telling her and I"m not telling Josh. Your the #1 - now you promis me I've got the same deal with you? Now do I have a deal with you>? Eric - you have a deal... Ruddy - I told Chichara (ed: basically he said he told her he'd cut her for the game) Gerry comes out because he thinks the lizards are fighting.. |
Cyn | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 05:26 pm     the lizards are fighting. jerry says they dug out an arena. roddy - maybe they're mating. it's wierd the little guys. jerry - they're trying to get out. lisa - maybe it's a mating issue. roddy - he said they're too young to know their gender. annoncement - hg please go to the living room. |
Whit4you | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 05:52 pm     at the end if it's just us 4 - say Jay and Tonya..it's gonna be really hard - there's gonna be so many sub things that nobody's gonna know what's going on - but there is a certan element Dani - can I ask you a question? If you had a question between J or G - who would you put out? Ruddy - instantly I want Gerry out because he's Gerry - I feel no possible alliance with him I dont think anyone does. The thing I just said to her - if Josh is arround he'll get put up 2 or 3 weeks in a row if he survives which means the HOH only has one person up that keeps our asses out - something to think about a very interesting thought - the fact that he's so unpopular right now - if he makes it this week..who's the first person? Dani - this is my theory - with J what you see is what you get.. with HIM...he's so....and I don't like that and I know eventually he's going to leave. Ruddy - that's the thing Gerry is not a threat - like someone who's my enemy's enemy is my friend. I just know that there is a part of me that's concidering snooping around to see what everyone feels like to keep Josh arround. Dani - that's why I'm bringing this up Ruddy - ya let Ger go - I'm not breaking any trust with Josh by saying what I said - I'm going to keep him around. Dami - like I said what you see with him is what you get he opened up to me and said the way he's reacting in certain situations is because of what happened. Ruddy - if you put ger up I'm taking him down..what do you think about that reasonsing? Dani - first of all he doesnt fit in with us...and he played me in some things that I do not particularly care for and he came to me and said I'm going to threaten me and the fact that he had the balls to do it anyways and he's coniving to me and I don't trust him as far as I can through him - for him to throw in my face black this black that all the time pisses me off - just because you have friends and family that are black - for him to bring that into this household when it wasn't here in the beginning pisses me off. First he said he thinks you guys did it because he's black or gay then he turned it around saying it was 'I me" - so what you say is not what you get with him and that bothers me. Ruddy - alot of that is rising to the surface now - sooner or later people forget the cams are on and they fall into their own personalities. |
Whit4you | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 05:54 pm     Ruddy - what's the possibility of that...? Dani - that people vote Josh out and Gerry stays? Ruddy - no that he puts one of US up? Dani - I don't think that's a possibility - there's only so much I can tell you but I can tell you that Ruddy - I personally think having Josh in the house is good. Ruddy - I can't tell you how much I'm dreading being HOH Dani - I don't want it - |
Cyn | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 06:24 pm     feed 4 dan leads workout, while tonya eats bagel w/ cream cheese (?) in a chair right beside them. |
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