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Day 15 - Danielle wins the "Power of Veto":
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Karuuna | Friday, July 19, 2002 - 11:55 pm     back to convo - J - to me, you putting me up. if I survice this, don't think I"m an ass, because I"m not. my words are loud. but my actions are different. M - that's what I looked at, your actions. J - it has more to with being a man, a jewish man, and being discriminated against. Talking behind your back. we get disc. against differently, I get it to my face. I don't deal with it positively, but they never get the better of me. I'm leaving them with a scar. I've been scarred already. M - people don't come in with that much bravado, unless they are hiding a soft core. and they use big personalities to cover your thing. it's the same reason I came in the way I came in. I was expecting to be a target, because I have these obvious things that I have been taught are liabilities. And I lost the game... FOTH J - get under my skin.. I dont feel he outplayed me. He hit my one nerve that is exposed. and when I tried to deal with it, he just ground it inmore and more. It says more about him. I know you should walk away from a fight, but say so what or something. D - yeah, you gotta talk. J - that's what I was trying to do with him, and on such a civil level. But I know what he did, and I know what he said. J - i know I am on the block. I don't feel like Ideserve to be. but I understand why you did. I just want that MFer out. M - in that same vein, you realize you were off your A game,and that cost you this. How are you going to change that,so that .... D - let's throw something hypothetically. If you get off the block, then what, Josh? J - that is beyond my control. That's going to fall back to him. In my heart, you know what I feel. and you know who I want on that block. in your heart, who deserves to be in that position? i may have put myself in there,and rightly so. I thinkit goes without saying who deserves to be there. M - there is no under circumstance that I will put Gerry on the block. If the veto goes down, I will not replace you with Gerry. Gerry is a means to an end for me, as I am to him for now. If you make it thru this, and you put Gerry on the block, maybe I would side with you. J - if i get the opportunity to put gerry on the block, I don't need you to side with me. ONly way Gerry gets saved next week, is if he gets HoH. Tehre's no one else Icould suggest to take my place besides him. I have no power over that. M - and he has shown me his true face. I am not cool. Talking about alliances for this week, he has to stay, i have to be focused on staying thru this week. next week the bets are off. J - i know his goose is cooked. I know he's not in my position. the game does change. Don't count me out as some one to look to. Missed some stuff m - what I said to you stands, the very first conversation that I had. I said to to some people I shouldn't have said it to. The only way I would nominated someone is if I thought they could beat me in the end. It is a huge compliment to you, that I feel you are a threat to me. it was not personal, it was not vindictive. this was my chance to give it tos omeone who could beat me in the end. and I would post that to tonya as well. It's not about having someone's ear, or being manipulated by someone. I had to take the chance, Josh could win, Tonya could win. Those are the 2 peopel I feel I can't beat. Next week it could be Dani. D- it could be. M - and the alliances change...I truly hope that you can change it, and look what happened to me, J - you clearly are not going to be on the block if I get HoH. M - you have bigger fish to fry. it would be obvious to go after Gerry, it would be easy to get him out. It would work your agenda, on some level it would work my agenda. J - it would give you more free time (laughs)... and the germs would be gone. M - a lot of different levels, a lot of different things could happen. YOu just have to go to your special place in the inside and let all this stuff wash over you. And decide who could beat you... |
Karuuna | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 12:02 am     convo continues, Josh keeps saying the same things about how much he hates Gerry. Gerry doesn't deserve to be here, he is a cancer of this house, of all of society. He is an example of what is wrong with this country. He has ruined his life outside of this house. He thinks he is the norm. He thinks he's going to be okay by taking you off, that absolves 51 years of effing sin, and he is going to pick up where he effing left off. He does not deserve this opportunity, and everyghing that goes with this game. I just want him to walk out the effing front door. I want to make him so miserable he just walks out. M - theproblme is that other people have to watch that and it makes me uncomfortable. J - I realize that I messed that up. I need to wait till he's on the lbock and he's out. It's such an honor to be ehre and doing what we're doing. When you get knocked out in the second week, even Lori, she had an unbelieveable special opportunity. It hurts me that he gets anything from this game. He hit me. M - where you live. J - that is more than being involved in this game. I'm going home, and I'll be the same person when Ileave. I can't express how much he doesn't deserve to breathe my oxgyen and your oxygen and ... M - if I was working an agenda, there is no way I can put him in. J - part of me still feels in my heart, I still feel that he should be on the block. I know you said you're not going to do it. Convo ends, everybody says night, and Josh says he feels better. M goes to get water for him and Dani. |
Sage | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 12:02 am      |
Karuuna | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 12:11 am     Marc & Dani I think Gerry is up next week, and there is nothing I can do about it. Would I take him off the block if I get the veto? Only if I needed hiim another week. D - what if he gets Hoh? What if he noms me? M - I think he believes we are part of his clique. It would be brilliant to put us up, but then he has nothing. He cannot come out publicly against you or I after he made that speech. He backed himself into a corner. All that noming us would do would make him last one more week. M - he buys us time. Josh survives this, j goes after Gerry. They all go after him, all except him. His only hope for survival is to stay alive for us. M - I wanna see effing Lisa nom Chiara. Chiara nom Roddy. Roddy nom Eric. That's the sh1t I am talking about. D - think it will happen? I do'nt think it will happen. M - I truly think you are safe. I think it could be Gerry and I. Or Amy. D - I never feel safe. I do'nt take it for granted. I pull it out, and you all watch me and Ikiss it and I put it on the hook. M - you actually think I would nom you? D - no, but I don't take anything for granted. Timed out - I'm done for the night! |
Kuchi | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 12:14 am     Danielle and Marc think that the 4th vote to save Lori was Chiara, as she said we gave her our word. No one knows it was Josh. |
Kuchi | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 12:31 am     Josh was whispering with eric and lisa. eric said that josh could get the swing vote as tonya is turning people off by the way she speaks. then foth |
Cute1073 | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 12:32 am     Josh is in the tiki room with L and E who are in bed together They are (of course) talking about what chance josh has to win the vote next week. He doesn't want to be seen as campaigning against T. Then E steps in and says that T is burning bridges just by the way she talks day-to-day. Something about she pissed off D. Josh reiterates that he should feel confident, he knows he has the 5 votes with his alliance but then doesn't want to have Lisa and C to have to go against T. L doesn't seem to be too worried about that FOH for no apparent reason |
Cute1073 | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 12:41 am     A and R talking in the hammock A is talking about what a change being in the house has been for her. She explains she's never had to 'do' things around the house. Her mom used to come over and clean her apt for her. She says now in the house she is worried people will see she's not doing anything. She says D explained for her, and now she is trying to more. R says drying dishes is good...everyone can see and is easy. A says she's not used to being around so many people that crave attention. R talks about how she was the first few days. Thought she was from central casting, she never broke character. R is glad she opens up more now, likes her and wants to get to know more. M comes over now, done talking to D. M says he just had a lovely talk all night with D D now come in. A is laughing that he has had so many guest in hoh room today. |
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