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Joyful

Monday, October 07, 2002 - 08:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jane, If you choose not to take my word thats okay with me. I don't have access to live feed but I do remember this from the show. And I do have a good memory. You asked me several messages ago If she really did say this. Since you used my name I assumed you wanted me to respond. :) Now that I've answered you don't want to hear? You state that I'm accusing Dani? That means I am charging her with an offense. No I'm not charging her with any offense, just stating what she said on many occassions.

Jane

Monday, October 07, 2002 - 08:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok Joyful. btw the live feed I was referring to is here at tvclubhouse - that is the one I searched.
It's just always nice to have proof right there in black in white in front of you. People took all that time to write those updates... it's like a little historical record you know.

Rts

Monday, October 07, 2002 - 08:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have a superior memory and I have never heard Dani call Roddy evil.
I wrote many updates and can recall things that happened in BB1. And wrote many of the updates on the three major boards.

You have no evidence Joyful.

Shortnsweet

Monday, October 07, 2002 - 08:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think we need to understand that we are not going to change our opinions of the houseguests at this point. We are all entitled to our opinions and nobody can be wrong when they are expressing their opinions.

I would like to continue discussing BB3, because I miss the show and the contestants. So, I am hoping to return to the original discussion:

OzarkTracey, when I first posted that I thought maybe Amy was exaggerating, it was before Dani's interview was brought up.

It is interesting that THEY can at least agree that there was a lot of animosity when they met in the lobby. It seems interesting to me also that Dani spent 3 months trying to control everything in the BB house and yet lost control (I am basing this on her comment about wanting to knock Amy out) in a public place. She must be so stressed out right now. I am stressed out just reading these posts! ;)

Willow

Monday, October 07, 2002 - 08:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jane, RTS et al.. . Since you require proof rather that other people's recollection of events. Here you go.

Dani calls Roddy Evil:
http://www.bb3updates.com/message.php?f=3&i=15573&t=15570

Dani calls Roddy Diabolical:
http://www.bb3updates.com/message.php?f=3&i=15550&t=15550

Dani on many occasions referred to Roddy AND herself as Diabolical. Definition? "Of the devil" ... "extremely EVIL and cruel".


Diabolical:
adj 1: showing the cunning or ingenuity or wickedness typical of a devil; "devilish schemes"; "the cold calculation and diabolic art of some statesmen"; "the diabolical expression on his face"; "a mephistophelian glint in his eye" [syn: devilish, diabolic, mephistophelian, mephistophelean] 2: extremely evil or cruel; expressive of cruelty or befitting hell; "something demonic in him--something that could be cruel"; "fires lit up a diabolic scene"; "diabolical sorcerers under the influence of devils"; "a fiendish despot"; "hellish torture"; "infernal instruments of war"; "satanic cruelty"; "unholy grimaces" [syn: demonic, diabolic, fiendish, hellish, infernal, satanic, unholy]

Zachsmom

Monday, October 07, 2002 - 09:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Willow!!!


(Love your site by the way..check it everyday!!)

Rts

Monday, October 07, 2002 - 09:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What did Amy mean when she said Roddy had a fanatical following? ANd what about the time she called Roddy Ted Bundy? I think that is a more personal attack.

I quoted from that conversation you mentioned Willow. And Jason did defend Roddy. I don't recall Dani calling Roddy evil. I have the video of that conversation I can check it out and here is the update I wrote:

update from Jokers

I think we can all agree that a lot of housemates thought Roddy was manipulating everyone. And that is what Dani probably meant when she called Roddy diabolical. That is game talk. And it means he is trying to win the game and that she is on his hit list. If someone wants to nominate you then that person is your enemy in the BB house. Someone wanting to evict you is evil. That's just game talk.

Ilovewill

Monday, October 07, 2002 - 09:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
WOW guys. I read this whole thread and I just have to say I think we all need to take a deep breath, relax and let it go. I know everyone has thier favorites and least favorites and nothing is gonna change people opinions of the HGs now. Like who you want and dislike who you want but dont try to force your views down other's throats. I am a Chiara fan and I know I can never get some of you guys to even remotely like her so why try.

Just my opinion :)

P.S. CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!

Willow

Monday, October 07, 2002 - 09:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm really not here to argue what anyone else said but Dani since that was the cause of my research in the first place :) There were posts above stating something never happened, that I remembered happening so I found a link.

They all called each other names and most of it I could care less about. Some of the names I called them in my head were much worse :)

Also, and no offense, but I type a million words a minute and most of my updates are word for word...as is the case of the one I linked. (Even though I came in the middle of the conversation)

Rts

Monday, October 07, 2002 - 09:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well Willow. I do have the video. You can also say that Dani also called Roddy 'good' on many occasions. Just read the update I posted. She stated that Roddy is 'soooo good' many times.

I still think Amy said worse about Roddy by calling him Ted Bundy and a cult leader. I may have to get multimedia on Amy.

Ptomaine

Monday, October 07, 2002 - 09:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Rts, are these vid clips that you have your own captures? If not where did you obtain them?

As clips goes, the usenet group has an incomplete record, and is missing some important dialogs/events, so if you have your own private stash somewhere please consider sharing them.

Willow

Monday, October 07, 2002 - 09:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes they all stated he was good... meaning he was good at manipulating and working people :)

Marc also called him David Koresh. I'm sure there were others who said things too. Don't think there was a disagreement about what anyone else called Roddy. That wasn't the point of my post. I saw posts saying Dani NEVER called him evil, and she did. That's it. Wasn't trying to make any point other than that.

No need to try and turn the argument around to be about something else.

Rts

Monday, October 07, 2002 - 09:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have my own private stash. While Citrona-X was posting his clips on the newsgroups. I continued to record my own. And get full screen video captures. And I do have Citrona's captures too.

I did the same for BB2 and was practically the only one to do so. For BB3 a lot of people have their own video collection.

Rebelbabe

Monday, October 07, 2002 - 09:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is this a pro-dani site or something?? Anyway I thought the posting was supposed to be about how Dani yelled at Amy for not voting for her in the hotel lobby? I think we got off the first issue being discussed. I personally don't see how people can back someone so dishonest and conniving?? I'm not saying Dani was the only one that was this way, however it still doesn't make it right, and to praise someone for this behavior is showing a lack of sanity to me. That is however just my thoughts don't take them to heart. I mean it's not going to cost me 500K ;)

Max

Monday, October 07, 2002 - 09:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Geez, did I mess up and not realize that BB3 is over?

No, Rebelbabe, this is not a pro-HG (or other reality TV participant) site. It's a site that's SUPPOSED to have adult conversations ABOUT reality TV shows and their participants. However, some people just get a bit over-zealous about supporting their favorite HG and/or detracting from their least favorite.

Someone else said it earlier, can't we all just get along? No one is going to change their opinions at this point and the show is OVER. The 15 minutes for most of these folks is UP.

Hmmmm....Methinks I'll mosey over the threads talking about shows that are STILL ON instead of rehashing the Dani/Roddy/Amy fest any more.

Ptomaine

Monday, October 07, 2002 - 09:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Rts, are you still participating in that newsgroup, and do you accept requests? The Cit captures are missing some important dialogs.

I think Cit mentioned that he might post his caps again, and I would like to edit the important dialogs for missing gaps.

I know he doesn't usually get the AM caps.

Rts

Monday, October 07, 2002 - 10:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I missed a lot of the AM stuff too. Nothing ever happenned. If something did then I would record. I was looking to post something from the daytime. It was when Gerry said 'Does Jason know Roddy is the devil?' I recorded after he said that. And the late night convo from the night before when Gerry said 'Roddy is not a man of god' I started recording after that. I wanted to use those clips for a certain site.

The big clip that I do have is Eric and Lisa the night something definitely went on under the covers. I'm going to post that shortly. And then there is the time Amy and Marcellas in the HoH room. When Marcellas said he was voting for Roddy and Amy gets very irrational. <> Anyway those two clips will be posted on the newsgroup.

I'm more interested in posting some cool Will Kirby moments. So, check out the newsgroups. The poster will be DD. I did post one BB2 clip called 'inhuman'. It was an early clip from the ChillTown vs Top days.

BB2 was still the best of the Big Brother shows.

Lurknomore

Monday, October 07, 2002 - 10:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok...was out (it's legally official to have a life again now since BB is over hehe) most of the day and come back to a raging thread here.

I had planned on a few comments but personally I feel it is impossible to carry on here unless we can have the Zen thread back :)

Ptomaine

Monday, October 07, 2002 - 10:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You must be the same DD from KeithX.

The only important AM events that I can recall is the Roddy AM chat, and Marc talking with Jason in the papasan, which are not captured by Cit, and never made episode.

Had I known about the caps prior...

I guess your posts will be apropos after the BB2 episode postings concludes. Will definitely be a bonus to wait for.

Rts

Monday, October 07, 2002 - 10:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, I started to get spoiled by Citrona-X and missed recorded a lot of clips because I thought he would post them. Some I have a lot of the first two weeks. And then recorded mainly to get full screen suppliments. And then he stopped posting after the time Jason won his first HoH. Then I recorded more clips on my own after that.

For BB2 I started the night of the Justin knife incident. I came back from Best Buy and got the special microphone jack connector. But didn't watch the feeds that night. I could have been famous and got sound and video of the incident. Ever since that time I recorded everything I watched. So I have the toothbrush incident, but lost the hot tub 'foot job' clip because I didn't have enough hard drive space. I do have a clip of Will coming up with the 'Atlanta Alliance'. But lost a of great BB2 moments because I kept running out of hard drive space when interweaving the sound and video.

Anyway I will post a lot of video on the newsgroup in order to give back to all the posters on the newsgroup.

Rosa

Monday, October 07, 2002 - 11:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank you Willow for clearing that up, I knew you had varification at your web site but felt it was usless to point that out.I am almost starting to feel sorry for Dani as she has apparently turned paranoid since losing the 450,000.

Cmore

Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 02:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well here is some food for thought. I am not a Dani supporter at all. If she and I were the last two people on earth, humans would become a extinct species, but.......

You have to wonder how manipulative and diabolical some of the CBS crew may have been. I remember one instance where Dani told someone (after she was recalled to the DR) that they just wanted her to do her X down and X to go routine.

We really don't know how CBS played the game. Thats a big question. Did they lead some of the HG's along the way, then edit the tapes to make it look worse than it was? I think to a point CBS also manipulated the game and the HG's for the almighty ratings. Some people more prone to trash talking (like Dani) may have fallen into a well planned trap of CBS.

CBS could care less who wins and who loses, but its a well known fact villans raise ratings. JR Ewing (Dallas) was one of the biggest villans on T.V., but I kept watching, waiting for someone to nail his evil buttocks.

Well after all this time it finally happened. Old JR Ewing turned into a black female named Dani and the devil got his due. I always hated those endings where the bad guy got away with their dirty deeds. :)

Itsallgood

Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 04:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL *sighs* ;-) Go AMY!!!! (I couldn't resist!)

Jane

Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 04:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
To the people saying "drop it" and to Max - Why? This is a discussion board and we are discussing.
Why come to this thread just to tell us to stop the discussion? (And as far as I can tell no one is not "getting along")

To CMore - That's interesting. I remember Dani saying that - also, one of the people in the DR referred to her as the "scandalous one" all the time - it sounds kind of like he egged her on. And Lisa said that after she gave her goodbye message to Gerry the person in the DR said "You know you don't ~have~ to be nice." That's when she did the message that they aired.

To Rosa - Dani did not lose 450k she WON 50k. (Just like Amy didn't lose 500k or Lori or Tonya or any of the others.)

Willow - Thanks for posting the update. ("diabolical" wasn't the word at issue)I just thought it was strange that for something she supposedly said repeatedly, I never heard it and couldn't find a single update that included it. (It was hard wading through all those "devils" that came up in the search wasn't it?:-) )

Joyful

Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 04:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have to go to work now but I'll be back this afternoon. I want to take some time to read these and then post. :) But for now I am still going with my recollection, she did use the word evil in describing Roddy. I doubt my memory is < superior > but it is pretty good. Everyone have a good day k?