Big Brother viewing software - alternate/helper to RealOne.
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Lawyerman

Wednesday, July 10, 2002 - 11:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Now that we've been able to figure out the keyless links, I would recommend two pieces of [Windows] software both available TEMPORARILY (until perhaps Sunday evening) on my BB3 web site:

http://www.lawyerman.net/bb3/

Both of these programs are very popular and have been used for previous editions of BB. In case you've never heard of these, I suggest you give them a try.

The first file is BBLive.zip, it is an alternative to the RealOne Player, but it uses core of the Real Player software. It's really just a simplified video player without all the crappy web content. You can resize the window and it stays on top of your desktop so you can surf while watching. Just dump the two zipped files in a directory and start it up. It's already configured for BB3 for both the 80K and 200K feeds.

The second file is bb2reloader.exe, which basically reloads the live feeds into your RealPlayer in the event you experience timeouts. It's preconfigured to reload the 200K feeds.

Unfortunately, these two pieces of software are incompatible with each other. I'd use BBLive if you aren't getting timed out, but I'd use the BB2 Reloader if you are getting timed out. Presumably, you'll still need to have access to the Real feeds (i.e. Superpass subscription) to watch the feeds.

FYI, here are the links already supplied in the configurations of these files:

rtsp://rx-lvl3-pa28.rbn.com:554/farm/*/encoder/cbs/cbs/bb3/secure/live/cam1_200.rm
rtsp://rx-lvl3-pa28.rbn.com:554/farm/*/encoder/cbs/cbs/bb3/secure/live/cam2_200.rm
rtsp://rx-lvl3-pa28.rbn.com:554/farm/*/encoder/cbs/cbs/bb3/secure/live/cam3_200.rm
rtsp://rx-lvl3-pa28.rbn.com:554/farm/*/encoder/cbs/cbs/bb3/secure/live/cam4_200.rm

rtsp://rx-lvl3-pa28.rbn.com:554/farm/*/encoder/cbs/cbs/bb3/secure/live/cam1_80.rm
rtsp://rx-lvl3-pa28.rbn.com:554/farm/*/encoder/cbs/cbs/bb3/secure/live/cam2_80.rm
rtsp://rx-lvl3-pa28.rbn.com:554/farm/*/encoder/cbs/cbs/bb3/secure/live/cam3_80.rm
rtsp://rx-lvl3-pa28.rbn.com:554/farm/*/encoder/cbs/cbs/bb3/secure/live/cam4_80.rm

Freydnot

Wednesday, July 10, 2002 - 11:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Great recomendations. You can also get the BBLive program from the at BBLive home page

You should also probably rotate the servers a bit. Real networks run several servers across the country and spreads out the load across them all. If everyone piles on one server, it will overload the server and cause problems for real. If we cause problems for real, real could decide to cause problems for us.

Halfunit

Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 05:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lawyer,

I have the reloader for BB2 and tried to copy and paste your BB3 lines in the setup of the reloader, but I get an audio message that says "The content you have requested is not available. Please contact the administrator of the referring page."

Any suggestions? What am I doing wrong? Is it something between RealPlayer/RealOne?

Thanks!

Ryn

Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 07:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Keys are on, the links no longer work (or so I have read this am

Lawyerman

Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 09:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ugh! It looks like they disabled the keyless URL's. I'm getting the same message.

Azriel

Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 09:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I give up. The player keeps freezing up on me. I never had any problems last year, but this year the new fangled RP seems to be too much for my system. I only have the minimum amount of 64 ram. This sucks :(

Arbustur

Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 04:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You can try the RealTV player that I developed for last years BB, but it has some problems this year with the new RealOne ActiveX control. You just feed it the normal url for each camera and it will grab the rtsp url with key automatically. Note, this only works if you have a network card (DSL, Cable, LAN, etc) and some modems may work. Essentially, if can get URL snooper to work, then it should work because it uses the same Packet driver. You also the have the ability to setup multiple cameras in one view. Unfortunately, this has problems with audio synchronization, so there is a alot of "echo". Other features include manual and automatic screen capturing. I stop development last year and there are still alot problems that I am just beginning to fix. So, I will be making last year version available, so that I can get something out there. I'll try to make it available today or tomorrow.

Arbustur

Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 08:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, RealTV can be downloaded from here: ftp://user1:user@142.103.128.91/ Grab the two files in the directory and do carefully read the readme file.

Freydnot

Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 09:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Arbustur: First off, thanks for continuing to work on RealTV. I used it all last year and it was great for my work where I had enough bandwidth to support a quad feed.

I downloaded v0.09.05beta and I'm having a problem with it. I got it configured okay, but when I try to play a link, the program exits silently.

I am running XP Pro, Real player 8 plus, and winpcap 2.3. I know winpcap is working because URL Snooper is working okay.

Strangely enough, the list of adapters is different for URL Snooper and RealTV. RealTV shows 4 "adapters". I've tried all 4 of them and nothing different happens.

However the "adapter" that work in URL Snooper isn't listed in the RealTV choices.

This seems like a winpcap problem, but I guess it could be related to me using RP8 and not onereal.

Any ideas? Let me know what I can do.

Faerygdds

Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 10:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I installed it, installed the other file but when I go to set it up I get an error 13 file type mismatch.

I have used the urlsnooper and it works...
any clues?

Floresmama

Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 10:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Arbuster I sent you an email to your Yahoo email address detailing the problems that I encountered trying to set up Real TV I figured I would await your response. Unfortunately now I can't get to the feeds at all. It keeps asking me to sign into the Realone and I do and it just keeps going around in circles.

Any ideas for me. I am already in BB withdrawals and it has been less than a half an hour.

Floresmama

Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 10:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have resolved my stupidity and am up and running with Real TV and the regular way.

Faerygdds I got that error to but it must not mean anything because I continued on and it works now that I resolved my cookie issue. Maybe it will work for you too if you just continue

Arbustur

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 01:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There is a new version(0.09.06) of RealTV on the ftp site in the update directory. Issues resolved include support for Windows95, a corrected adapter list, and other misc fixes for minor problems.

People who have downloaded and installed the player previously will only need to get the zip file and replace the RealTV.exe and realtv.dll in the RealTV installation directory.

For people who have not installed the software, download the RealTV.msi and readme.txt files and then go to the update directory and download the update zip file. After you have installed RealTV.msi, unzip the update file and replace RealTV.exe and realtv.dll in the installation directory.

Freydnot

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 07:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yay, I finaly got RealTV to work on my PC with the update.

If it helps anyone, the native resolution of the 200k stream is 320x240 and the native res of the 80k stream is 240x180.

Shannon31

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 08:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Freydnot is it working for you?I'm on AOL and would love to see the feeds. But i have no credit card so i can't buy them.Please email me Shan12Stones@aol.com

Freydnot

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 09:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have them working, but I'm using the same URL that CBS does which requires a subscription (which I have).

You might want to try calling Real Network and see if there is any other way to pay for the feeds. Try saying things like "I really want to give you some of my money every month, but you don't seem to want to take it. Why won't you take my money?" :)

Good luck

Buggie

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 03:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Freydot..I said basically just that to Real Networks via an e-mail yesterday, so today, besides cursing at my Windows 95 and my 33.6 modem, I'm going to call Real Networks and BEG them to give me access to the Big Brother Live Feeds because I KNOW that it is not necessary to purchase their updated "premium service" RealOne Player to watch them. They have even "hidden" the RealPlayer 8 download from new subscribers, which I have heard works for the BB3 feeds just like last year. Anyway, I'm not very computer literate so I don't understand everything that you people are talking about in here but I'll let ya'll know if I find a "computer illiterate" way to connect to the BB3 Live Feeds with a dinosaur computer.

Freydnot

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 05:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Real player 8 works just fine. I haven't installed Onepass on this machine yet. The mac version of RP8 also works.

Guitrldy

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 10:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hello! I've been looking for an alternate multi-feed player from BBLive. BBLive has the problem where all feeds have their audio mixed and you cant listen to one single feed when you have more than one displayed.

I found the same issue with RealTV.
Is there any fix for this? Being able to display more than one feed isn't useful if you cant select which audion you want to listen to. I also found that "pause" paused ALL feeds instead of just one.

I'm using RealOne (latest update) and WinXP Pro.
Thanx!
guitrldy

Arbustur

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 07:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It might be possible, if I can figure out how to create a SMIL file that can control the volume in "regions". So far, all my attempts have failed and I am beginning to believe it will not be possible. Maybe somebody out there with a better understanding of SMIL might be able to help.

Jadeygurl39

Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 09:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I need help. RealOne has been working great for me until tonight. It wouldnt let me sign in. I have cable modem and never ran against this problem before. It will let me sign in after uninstalling it and adding it again. Now what it does when I am signed in and I click on BB3 it asks to open the file rb to "this location" or to a disk location. What is wrong? I am not sure if the config got messed up. If anyone can help, I'd be most appreciative.

Jade

Arbustur

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 10:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The link to the old RealTV Player software mentioned in this thread is no longer working because it has been replaced by a new version. This link will take you directly to the software . Or you can visit the RealTV Player home page.