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Carigsby

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
During the drug conversation, Chiara was talking about how it doesn't matter what drug education children get, because they will choose on their own whether or not to try drugs. She said that she was raised well by her parents - but that it didn't stop her from doing drugs while on the same token Roddy had never touched a drug.

They then began sharing stories on how their parents would try to discourage them from trying drugs or alcohol. Chiara said that her dad would tell them if they wanted to smoke or drink or do drugs to bring it home and that they he would try and make them see the extreme parts of substances and that they weren't always fun and games (ie - by making them chain smoke).

Lisa said that her parents never mentioned drugs to her. Danielle then said that she was never told not to do drugs because her father was a drug dealer.

That was earlier - right now...

Roddy is telling Chiara about how her logic on how that kids will do drugs no matter what is flawed. That if you see the consequences of drugs - you won't do them.

Carigsby

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
All feeds on Gerry and Roddy working out. No conversation - just lots of heavy breathing.

Carigsby

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa and Chiara in hammock watching R and G work out. Talking about their PMS symptoms.

C - the worse part of my last relationship was I was not me. (pp) If I had a zit, I would make up a reason not to see him and I denied having a period.

C - when I'm with an insecure man, I'm insecure; when I'm with a secure man, I'm secure. I'm not an insecure woman, but you start to worry about what they worry about.

L - <I missed it>

Dagny

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy was giving Chi the gears about her statement about "drug education doesn't work"

Came in mid conversation, but Roddy was saying how uncool he was because he wouldn't do the drugs..

He tells her people like her "who will do drugs no matter what" drug education won't work. And for people like Jason who would never touch drugs..because that's just the way he is.. Drug education is for the people who are sitting on the fence (Rod) and drug education made him choose not to do the drugs.

He goes on to tell her how he mentored kids on hockey teams (coaching) and how those kids thanked him later in years when he saw them at bars...etc...and they were glad they choose not to do drugs.

Chi seems upset about what he is telling her. Gerry offers that he understand the whole drug thing because of the 60's, but he grew out of it. He tells her he still drinks...but not to excess anymore (for the most part) Ed. LOL

Rod tells Gerry that isn't relevant to what he was saying. ???

Chi is going for a nap. (upset)

Chi goes to the hammock. (lisa comes to talk to her) (Dani was called to DR)


Chi is telling how she acted when she was with Ash. (to Lisa)

Lisa-did he know you cheated on him before you came in the house, or is he finding out now?

(Sounds like Chi and Ash didn't break up, but taking a break and see where things are when she comes out of the house)
Chi says that she wasn't "herself" when she was with Ash. Ash found her real self "exhausting"

Ed. to add, I think at this point they aren't talking about Ash anymore...but "the other guy"

Lisa-how was the sex?

Lisa-no comment?

Chi-says it was exciting at first, but it got real old real fast.

She talks about how it was like "porno sex"...and when she had more feelings for him..it was still like porno sex...and she felt dirty.

(I don't think they are talking about Ash anymore...since this was the relationship she was in right before she came in the house. She talks about him going away to the Hampton's....and he had money...wondering if she was just with him because of the money.)

Cam switches...to Marc. and Jason.

Care25

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason and Marcellas in HRD.

J- I'm jealous of everyone that's been kicked out that gets a chance to come back in.
M- I'm not jealous of Lori and Tonya because that's a long time to be out.

Jason discussing the possibilities of not having an HoH competition this week.

M- I can't believe they wouldn't have a head of household for a whole week.
J- all we'll know thursday is who's coming back in, we don't even know if they'll come back in on thursday we just know who's coming back then. we'll be able to ask them different things, like did you touch julie was your family there. maybe it won't slow down, i just think it would be dead for excitement on the show if a whole week goes by and there's nothing happening.
M- why give us croquet when there's not enough grass to play croquet? and then the dart board, there's not a good dart board.

They're discussing why BB gave them games today, if that means that they won't have much to do this week because of the evicted HG coming back into the house. They seem to be speculating that maybe they won't have an HoH competition this week.

Dagny

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Took a break...come back mid conversation.

Dani is dishing up dinner (they have 7 bowls of stew, they need 8)

Dani takes Josh a bowl...and asks him if he needs something to drink. He's in the BR. He says no.

Dani tells Lisa if someone wasn't greedy last night they would have 8 bowls (Gerry)

Dani asks Marc.-if I make you a hot dog with love, will you eat it?

Marc. says yes.

Again Dani going on how Gerry was greedy helping himself to the second bowl of stew yesterday.

They are sitting down to eat... Dani is waiting for Chi to come out of the DR. Gerry, Lisa and Rod dig in.

Josh is done and brings his bowl to the kitchen. Dani offers him a piece of bread...or a hot dog. Accepts the bread... Josh says he has to hurry back, Liz is out. (??)

(Josh has Liz in the drawer again) cam 2 and 4

Flyonthwall

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gang eating dinner, general dinner convo.
some talk about BB
Jason says season 2 was better than season 1.
You get attached to characters by the end.
It's like a drama when somebody dies off, someone left the show.
Jason says cast last year there were not a lot of ppl he liked.
Dani says they were all jerks.

Ja: they kinda were
Dani: you didn't really root for anyone.

Ja: maybe that's what they are saying about us.

Talk about Am choice and that Ja won.
G talks about betting going on in London on it (who would win)

dinner

Talk about when chi was in DR and trying to make Shannon jelious ( of Roddy, she keeps saying Shannon is his girlfriend)
Dani: how do you know that's not Shannon - Shannon
(meaning from bb2)

Cut to FOTH

Back talk about how Shannon and Will had sex all over the house.
Talk about Hardy.
Autumn wanted hardy.
Mar says she was old wasn't she?
(ED: LOL)

now they are talking about lux challanges
R jokes about what he said in DR
he's laughing at what he said to them.
Just the things they are getting, microwave but nothing to cook in it.

General talk of food.
(I'll be back for late night coverage if I'm able about 11)

Dagny

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 08:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dinner conversation:

They discuss BB2 and how there was no one to cheer for.

They wonder if Shannon in the DR...is the Shannon Shannon.. FOTH

Come back discussing Shannon having sex in the house. Jason teasing Rod and Chi that they are freezing every frame when they are sleeping to see if they are having sex. (Chi said in the DR that she isn't getting any sex)

Jason-everytime you roll over and make a little groan..they slow it down to see what you are doing. And now they will edit Chi's conversation in the DR...to make it sound like they were having sex before..and now they aren't (lol)

They discuss Hardy..wondering who he hooked up with. They talk about Autumn jumping in bed with him the first night...but nothing happened.

Side note: Dani opened the fridge earlier and laughed at who ever cut up cuccumber and put it in the fridge in a pot. "who the heck put cuccumber in the fridge in a pot?" (think she thought they were just storing it) Lisa said you have to applaud them for the effort. We now find out that Jason??? cut up the cuccumber and was soaking it in vinegar for dinner. (they are all saying they enjoy it)

Krossd

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 08:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ed. I heard a conv. last night between R and C while R was in the shower (after or before hot tub time) about heroin, him saying he could give it up anytime, and Chiara saying something about it not being addictive.

(Sorry mod. if this doesn't belong here, delete if so, obviously. But I did hear it, and posted a message in the Quick answer thread abt it.)

Flyonthwall

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 08:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Josh comes in where Jason is throwing darts.

Jo: asks Ja: why he voted for Eric?
If Ja dosen't want to answer he'll respect that.
Ja: says that there were a lot of reasons and he'd rather not talk about it, he told R and Chi his reasons.
He dosen't want to talk about it becasue things might get misconstrud.

Jo keeps trying but Ja dosent' give any info.

Ja asks if he wants to talk they can talk about other things outside the house.

They talk about after they get out of the house, who they will see etc.
Talk of Mewwet.

Ja asks Jo if he's going to get married.
Jo said he thought so but now he's going the other way.
ja is surprised

They talk about diff personalities in the house.
How they become in there.
Jo thinks Ja is still the same.

Ja thinks he is more quite in the house.
Jo thinks Ja is views well in the house, he is as he is outside the same in the game.

Jo thinks he's been personified as a certain type of person, he doesn't want Merrit to be with that type of person.
Ja don't beat yourself up for a game.
Jo it's a game in reality. This house is not playing like a game, if they were I wouldn't be going out 5-0

Ja I disagree. Sometimes you do things in this game...the decoy...some weeks that person went.
PPl in here feel like it save them for a week, and they played into it for the good or bad. It's not all good.

Jo my point is: I want this to stay btw us, I don't want ppl to vote R out.
You know dam well it was me you and R in the end,
and 5 ppl got to make the choice I wouldn't be going out 5-0
says something about he wouldn't be voted out.
ppl arent really playing the game.

Ja asks what are they playing

Jo missed some
R is a great person I love him so much, my speach today was not all bs.
I'm prepaired to walk out of this house, I know I'm going to.
If there were 12 ppl who voted like 3 ppl left I'd be in this house.
That's why I'm saying it's not being played as a game.
Maybe I'm not giving myself any credit...assuming I'd always finish in 2nd place
If ppl look at me in this house like I'm the untrust worthy one I don't want to do that to Merrit.

Ja: you need to be out of the house b4 you make a decission like that.

Jo absolutly

Ja; talk of how exciting the clock is.
They have very little grasp on reality.
when you hear from Merrit..

JO that's what I'm afraid of

Ja: I've told you this and I apprecite this moment...
when all this is over, I feel like theres so many things we feel like we never got to know some ppl in here.

Jo agreeing
he knows he's not one of those ppl.
everyone has had 40 days to get to know him
He'd love to say he's diff on the outside
but he's not.

Ja; major changes going on inside you
R is a big help with that.

R and g come in and move on

Ja give it some time, b4 you do anything like that.
I think your going to be blown away,
Maybe your trying to keep from hurting yourself
Merrit knows who you are more than anyone in this house.
won't change anything being in the house.

Jo: I don't think M's feelings will change for me in the least, she'll be incredibly supportive.
proud of me. I make jokes about her and her new boyfrnd.
I don't know...I think she could do very well for herself.

Ja: don't see yourself short there Josh.

Jo: we'll see.

Ja: asks Jo if he wants to join in the convo in HRD

JO: says lack of depth in convo has driven him in this house.

dani comes thru out door says I came to hot tub no one is there.
Now chi mar and dani come thru kit
all talking diff things.
G goes out side wiht them

Sound not good jumbled over talking.

Jay and Jo in kit Jay fixing pb

General chit chat.

(back later)

Flyonthwall

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
(no one's posting again so I'll stay until someone picks up)

quad cam
dani lisa mar and R in hot tub
talking about actors favs etc.

Jay and josh in kit talking.
Feed 4
talk of camping and equipment

*prio to this he was telling how he owed a lot of money for being in here and will be in debt when he gets out.
He will have to go back to work right away.
He wanted to take Merrit on a trip.*

Cam switches to Gerry close up in por cam
brushing teeth
LoL
Flexing and looking at his new body

G goes outside to hot tub

Jo telling about his cat and where it poops
(mood is light between them. Jo is being more social to Ja. ja is listening and laughing at him and they seem to be having a nice chat)

JO says he lives in Taluka lake(sp)
The poor part.
Talk of celebs and where they live around him
He used to live in getto of Hamptons
Lot of young ppl in biz acting and all
His room mate got a commercial
He loves the kid

Switching to outside hot tub convo

Caro

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Feed 3: Josh and Jason in kitchen
Jo: If it's none of my business, tell me, but why did you vote E out instead of L

Ja: pp When we get out I will tell you. I'd rather not say right now so that things don't get complicated.

Jo: I respect your privacy. I'm bored so I thought I'd ask.

Ja: So you are playing with your lizards.

Jo: Yeah pp

Jo: To be honest the way people have set things up in this house, we can't talk about anything.

Ja: Then let's go outside and talk about something.

Ja: So you think Merritt will be right there?

Jo: I'd be so disappointed if I saw my roommate.

Ja: Really?

Jo: I love my roommate. He reminds me of you. I really love and trust that kid.

Ja: See Merritt

Jo: I'm totally looking at our relationship differently now.

Ja: You were talking about getting married?

Jo: I did. But now I'm looking the complete opposite. way. This place is a true mirroring of who you really are. Clearly you are who you say you are.
Lost Feed.

Jo: ...but if I really thought it would be that easy to personify me as that person in this house, then like, I don't want Merritt to be with that person.

Ja: I don't want you to beat yourself up for a game.

Jo: "It's a game in reality. If people were playing this as a game I wouldn't be going out 5-0

Ja: Sometimes part of the game...you do things in the game...there are weeks...we term it a decoy but the decoy wins and I don't think it's alll good."

Jo: My point is this. I want this to stay between us. I know I'm going. I don't want Roddy voted out. You know damn well if it was you m and R at end and 5 people got to make the choice I wouldn't be going out 5-0. And people ask why you voted out the weaker person you would say because kiki told you to?

Ja: I don't understand.

Jo: There are so many nice people in the house.
R - I love him with all my heart.My speech today wasn't b*llshit. If there were 12 people in house and people had to pick who they want to be in the finas with, I wouldn't be going out. I could be wrong. I could be beating myself up, not giving myself credit, that I would get 2nd place. If people in this house think this of me I don't want M to be with a person like that. I love her.

Ja: Think about it. You really don't have a grasp on reality right now. Like we're so excited about getting a clock and we don't even know what time it is.
Josh smiles.

Ja: You will see things in a different light, when you see M. I've told you plenty of times and I appreciate this moment...I was hoping we could have this conversation...I want to hang out with you after. There are so many things we don't know about eachother.

Jo: I agree. But I'm not one of those people (hiding). People have had 40 days to get to know me. I'm not different on the outside. (Seems unhappy about this, tearing up, hands to face.)

Ja:Before you do anything give yourself time. Even to when you come back for the final vote. Be very open. M knows who you are best of all, better than anyone in the house and nothing will change that. I don't know M, maybe it will.

Jo: I don't think M's opinion has changed. I think she will be proud and supportive. I know I make jokes about her and her new boyfriend. But I think she could do very well for herself.

Ja: Don't sell yourself short Joshie.

Jo: We'll see. One of the things that has driven me out of this house is the conversations and the length of depth. I was ok the first couple of weeks. Over and over and over again. Rather than object to it I stay out of it.

D comes out of HRD talking about wanting more of Matthew Modine. (ed. perfect timing)
J&J eating popcorn as others go out to ht without speaking to them.

Ja: Want to spend time with friends, do something different. Take a road trip.

Jo: Yeah I want to do stuff with M. Work scheds are different.

Ja feeding popcorn to Ch

Jo: I wish I had memorized the Dodger's sched.

Ja: So you are going straight back?

Jo: I am in negative money now. I had 8 or 900 dollars before I went to that hotel. Plus I have my carmen ghia.

Ja: What's that? (LOL)

Jo: My car. What day do I get out? M will have to pay for everything. I bought the camping equip. Talks about places to go. Crowded now, etc.
How much it costs, got tent on ebay. Set it up in backyard and cat peed in it in the first few seconds.

Ja: You're in a house or an apt.?

Jo: An apt. There's a quad that's why I took it. I was on website. $450 apt called and left messages. I talked to him for a few minutews and he said, "You sound awesome, come down right now!" I was in a gross apt. He would go to the bathroom in the hall and people would get mad. But he would go in the same corner and he was good about it. This place was a deadend rd, great people, yard. I wanted him to be around people. The people are great. I live in like the ghetto of Tulucca lake. (Names people who live on other blocks)Young people in the business. My roommate got a commercial and just got a callback for a valvoline commercial. I love him. When I met him, he's 19, we hung out, bought a bottle of wine, we left 2 glasses worth in the bottle and he threw it out the next day. Now he isn't a pushover. I feel like I have such an influence over his life.
The night of my "b role" (?) we were drinking and hanging out. When I got my key he was crying and hugging me. He called the next day and said it was the liquor, don't show that. I don't worry about the bills now because I've given him money for things before. He's supporting me now!

Ja: What has happened in the life of M?

JO: This is her chance to do things. She's been here a year and she was doing stuff with me, but she could definitely be a model. She has fear issues. Out here it seems like everyone is here for it but not doing anything about it. All waiting for Spielberg to come calling. I have been in movies, have my sag card, all based on my personality. I really want to be a writer. This production co. is working on something with me.
You know Roddy obviously...but I have a dream.
(Josh talking nonstop here. Going to post and will be back)

Flyonthwall

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Quad cam watch

Hot tub group
Gerry chi Lisa dani roddy and mar (gerry)
In that order in hot tub
They get in and out sit on edge when they get to hot.

talk about movies and favs and actors.
two feeds.

Josh and jason in kit talking on two feeds
Josh is actually smiling while he talks to Ja
they are laughing
back to cam 4
How many ppl are "out here" trying to get into acting.
Jo has been in movies, had an agent, wasn't even trying, but they liked his personality.
He wants to be a writer.
Hope his Roommate got a script going.

He says he's no R obviously.
He wants Merrit to stop smoking cig's
His neighbor is a top model.
Took Merrit's photos to the photographer, but it didn't fly.

Basically who you know and what they can do for you.

Jo hoping his rm tapes all the episodes of the show.
Almost 50 days since he left Merrit.
time spent in hotel before plus house time.

Jas says that is a long time! He's recalling his time too.
it's a weird thought.

Jo it's been really really rough on him
He's not good on thinking, not many ppl he can talk to in the house at all.
Not good at listening to G's story.

Ja yeah sometimes it's painful, sometimes I just findcommon ground on. I leave to get water when it's boring.

Jo I find it rude so many of them you give them their time to speak, when your talking they can't wait until their time to speak

Ja it's a communication skill. you have to learn it.

Jo finds it with Mar too.
Second you cut in and tell him something he comes back with another story.

Ja that's why sometimes G and Mar clash because they want to contol convo.

Jo knows one of 5 is going to talk

Ja every once in a while there is that wild card.

Jo suprise new story.
Merrit wanted me to learn to have more patients.

Ja you will
thinks he's learning
When they get out life will go fast
Patients will be easier becuase you won't have time to react

Jo you can walk away from things too

Ja R was talking about it. everytime I go to sleep someone wakes me up.

Jo I beg ppl to leave him alone.

Ja everytime I nap someones' asking me quesitons.
I'm sleeping right now I don't care!
Laughing

Jo well i've not had that problem everyone's left me alone

Ja I dont'want to bother you

Jo Mar says: If josh walks out this week will he have opportunity to come right back in...then laughing.
Jo didn't like that and decided to keep his mouth shut about it.
He could make Mar cry with things he'd say.

JO; I know you all know things chi did to me.
It makes it hard for me to spend time wtih R and not interfer with their relationship

Missing a lot
he talks fast

Jo says Chi was trying to get info out of Jas
Very easy to block something out when you are involved with a girl.

Ja: I apprecite the information, so I can consider it.(pp)

Jo: someone gets involed in relationship andthey let some things go.
On my way out just know i have always looked out for you I was the one who wanted to get you in a protected basis
I hold you in respected position.

Ja: i know you do.
That ment a lot your the first person to look out for me.

Missing more

Ja: when I was analized by psy. i realized I protect myslef with humor.

Jo tons of jews are humor
either you laugh or cry being jewish.
i do both

Ja: i'm glad you had some good moments this week.
I apprecite this moment

Jo: I do too.

Ja: asid from all this that's all that matters.

Jo: I want to que you in on this.
If I get voted out I want you and R to follow me to the door.

Ja: absolutely.

Now talk about ball and kings games.

(I'm resting fingers tired - THANK C!)

Caro

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Feed 4: Ja & Jo

Jo: You listen to people and when it comes your time to speak you can see that they are just waiting for their time to talk again. He's one of them (G). M too.
Jason trying to tell his opinion.

Jo: There are some people who only have 5 conversations and on of them comes up.
Jason looks out window and says, "They are all out there."

Jo: M was hoping that I would learn a little more patience in here but I didn't. I do choose to abstain rather than object to things they say.

Ja: Life will go fast once we get out of here.
Patience will be easier because there are places to go and things will pass quickly. R said that everytime he goes to sleep someone wakes him up and there is nothing going on.

Jo: That's whats good about this week everyone has left me alone.

Ja: I don't want to push you. I want to talk.

Jo: What M said to Allison, "When Josh leaves this week will he have a chance to come back in here." The fact that he is sensitive and he is incredibly insensitive to me. I want to play games with you but it is hard.
I know fully what Ch has done to me. It makes it hard for me to spend time with R and not interfere in their relationship. I knew she dragged you into that room and she told me she was trying to get info from you. I know when someone has an emotional attachement that you can't see things.

Ja: I appreciate that. Another set of eyes. My mom does that.

Jo: You see it in guy/girl relationships. Just know on my way out that I have always looked out for you. Wanted to protect you. I have high respect for you. Every time I think you are more special, from grace to reading that letter from your mom.

Ja: It meant alot. Was a joke at first, but I know you meant it.

Jo: I do use humor to protect myself. It's a jewish thing. That's why there are tons of jewish comedians. Laugh or cry. 2 choices if you are jewish. I do both (laughs)

Ja: I'm glad you had some good moments this week and I appreciate this one.

Jo: I do too.

Ja: I said in the DR that the only thing that matters is the relationships we have.

Jo: After the vote Thurs I just want you and R to walk me to the door and everyone else stay.
(ed The others have already decided they were going to do that)
Talking about Kings games etc.

Ja: Doesn't it seem like the house gets smaller when each person leaves?

Jo: I actually appreciated it this week that no one talks to me. Why didn't this happen weeks ago? I would feel so much better.

Ja: I wanted to win HOH so I could have room to myself. Sometimes you wake up not feeling good and everyone asks you all day what is wrong.

Jo: And by then there IS something wrong (laughing).
Josh has heard the doorbell a couple of times.
Heard people working outside thought it meant they were done working.

Bigfan

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Group in hot tub=Dani, Gerry, Marcl, and Kiki.

Talking about actors

Great Expentations=perfect blonde headed little girl

Down and out in Beverly Hills
Richard Dryfus
Nick Nolte
Just trying to remember different actors in different films
Dani starts singing "I can't get by without your love and affection. Foth

Talking about Monster Ball-Dani says sex sceen not needed, to long.

Does Holly B have tatoo for really on her butt.
Never put name on because you because you will break up.

Dani's husband has her name.

Lisa and Kiki are getting out. Now Marcel and Gerry. Dani wants to be alone for alittle while.

Kiki comes back and asks Dani if she's okay?

Now Roddy shows up. Goes to get food.

Kiki and Dani talk about John Travolta.
Different movies and which ones they like him in.

Kevin Bacon, like him.

Elizebeth Shue they like.

Dani likes Gone is 60 seconds.

Dani asks how many days have we been in this house. We are only 1/2 done. Kiki asks what to you think about someone coming back in. Dani doesn't think it's fair. They need to stay out.
Thinks everyone should be voted right back out. Not fair to have second chance. Kiki thinks that just want good tv. Operation revoling door, don't unpack just go right back out. If they get HOH they are told that they have to put up Gerry.

Roddy back with glasses of water.
Dani asks if they miss talking to their parents and the say yeah.

Posting because I'm tired of listening to the hot tub.

Flyonthwall

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Everyone gets out of hot tub

Dani and Chi stay out and talk

Chi asks how see feels about "operation revolving door"

Dani doesn't think it's fair
You work hard to get someone out and they need to stay out.

Chi thinking the person coming back in should go up right away.

Dani dosen't think it's fair, to get a 2nd chance.
whoever's out should stay out.

Chi says new thing is "operation revolving door"
Dani hadn't heard it until now.
Chi explains it: whoever come in goes right back out.

They all have to make a pact to do "ORD"
so if that person that comes back in gets HOH
they have to tell that person they have to put Gerry up or they are gone.

Dani says she don't like it.
(not sure if she ment someone coming in or "ord"

R comes out to Hot tub.
Chi tells him they were talking about it.
Chi says Dani agrees with it.

R doen't sound like he has on mic can't hear him well.

Say if it's Lori...dani says.
Chi and puts us up that sucks.

R it has to be a random comp not anything about the house.
like the bowling thing, which would be easier for her.

R talking about the fact those ppl were gone and they weren't it's not fair.

Dani they were giving these ppl these oppt.
it's not fair.
R they are trying to tweek the game (bb)

mar and Gerry sitting on the couch
on two feeds

Chi says they have the video making fun of us, not that they want to come back or miss them, but how much fun they were having.
There trying to make it as unclassy as possible, making us angry by showing us a video of them doing all these fun things.

R says Tonya talked about her body but never worked out, eating pb.
He thinks it's great a beautiful attitude.

They talk about Tonya getting tummy tuck.
Her way of losing weight.

(mar has left LR leaves G there)
Jo and Ja still in kit talking eating.

Lisa out to hot tub again.
Not inside just sitting on edge.

BB tells Chi to put on her mic
SHe says unf'ing believalbe!

dani misses talking to her mom

(I'll be back at midnight bb time to post the late hours)

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Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 3

Gerry and Josh sitting on facing sofas playing a game of chess...minutes pass with no talking.

Chiara can be seen passing through the room.

Cam goes to bathroom area. Marcellas is in shower, Chiara dressed in bathrobe sits in green chair on the side. Jason notices she doesn't have on her mic and tries to help her by telling her to speak into his but BB Voice comes on and asks Chiara to please put on her mic. Marcellas and Jason laughing as Chiara leaves to go get her microphone.

When Chiara comes back, she, Jason and Marcellas start talking again about actors, actresses, movies they've been in, etc.

(changing feeds)

Caro

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Feed 1:
HT L,D,Ch,R
Came in on talking about wearing something to look like 80's.

BB: Ch please put on your microphone.

Ch: I'm just walking to the F*cking....
D misses talking to her mom.
Talks to her dad about everything, religion, news, etc.

L: How do you kids get along with your parents?

D: They are infatuated with them.
Kids call them Nonny and Pop pop because she will not be called grandma, god forbid.
She buys package to make cookies. She's there with her rings and making cookies with the girls.

L: R, where are you?

R: Thinking about food.
D suggests he makes hot dogs.
L wishes she had her camera to take a pic of him.

D: We need to talk about tomm.'s food. Suggests something and remembers that R is making something with veggies and meatballs.

D: I would feel better if we had eggs. Different ways they could have them.

R: Yeah.

D: Remember Ja made One Eyed Charlies.

L: (surprised) I didn't have that!

D: You were probablly slleping.
Need to have carbs in the morning. (to L) You and your 6 cups of coffee in the morning.

R: Proten Drink! That's a good idea. I always forget them.

D: The funniest thing to my dad, and his crew the first thing they say is they need coffee and one sip and they are ready to go.

R: People have rituals and need to do them to get started. My grandpa puts milk in a teaspoon and as turning spoon to check that it's perfect, pours it in and then adds more milk (LOL). God, he has so many good grandpa things. He drinks Beck's beer, only drinks 2, holiday more, his own chair Archie Bunker style, knows every single satellite channel and station on it. Programs vcr with satellite and he's 90 yrs old. You know you're in trouble if there isn't a Becks for him. And has to be in bottle. Hey, watch yourself, this is Big Ed you're talking about. Even at a nice restaurant if they bring a glass we ALL yell it has to be in a bottle!
D and L laughing .

L: That poor waiter must have been so frustrated.

R: It was a few months before we came here. Golf rituals too. When we were in Vegas to film this before we left (?) we had to have everything ready for the camera thing and Grandpa didn't want it to interfere with golf.
BB: M put on your microphone
Foth
R talking about how his family had a completely different agenda in Vegas and even said the camera crew could wait for them.

Watcher

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 1

Roddy, Lisa & Danielle still chitchatting out by hot tub.

Talking about when they found out they were coming into the house and Danielle about how she made up list of things she needed to bring. Roddy was not prepared at all.

Her tape was delivered on the day her boss got back from New York. She said if you are watching this tape, I am not dead, you will see why I have been so stressed out...remember when I said I was going to Disneyland, I wasn't at Disneyland. You know I tried out for Survivor...no....I am not on Survivor. Have you ever heard of Big Brother? (laughing) Wish me luck, I love you all and see you when I get back. (ed - she said a lot more about the tape she made for those she works with to let them know she was leaving for the show, but I missed a lot as she was talking so fast)
Roddy and Lisa say they love that story.

Now talking about the food in the house, PB&J, etc.

Cam moves inside to bathroom area and more acting/movie talk between Chiara and Marcellas

Caro

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Feed 1:
D telling story of when BB came to film her. 8 am at her parent's house. Father had to get associate pastor to cover for him since it was a Sunday. Her mom called and D said she was on the way and mom said, "I'm just asking. Don't talk to me that way I'm your mother!"
Her mom decided not to use her cane that day, they think she has MS.
FOTH

Feed 2: FOTH
Feed 3: FOTH
Feed 4: G and Josh playing chess in LR
Can hear Ch talking about movies with M

No convo between chess players.
Cam switches to Jason smiling at the lizards and close-up of Lizards. Can still hear M & CH

Cam switches to Chess game
Jo: It's amazing how they talk about people.
And I want to go to her (Ch?) that you owe me more than the sh*t she's giving to me. I didn't do anything to deserve it.

G: I wish you had come to me earlier.

Jo: When I was nominated you dropped me like a bag of rocks. When you got POV you ran to tell R.

G: I did not.

Jo: He came and told me. I know you are trying to cover your ass and more power to you. I'm going anyway. I wish I feel I can talk to you about things but I'm afraid to talk to anyone in the house. I have to f*cking lock myself in the room. If it's your turn I'm f*cking you up. laughs.
Some chess talk and silence follows.

G: Josh I understand more than you realize.

Jo: I know you understand. But you did drop me. I don't know if it was a facade or...

G: The truth is that you shouldn't have been so agressive after you were nom. I know that is your style. And the way they are f*cking with us? I know what Allison said to us the other night.
FOTH

G: Truthfully, I'm as mad as hell. If E comes back I'm gone.
Jo agreeing, saying he's strongly against it.

G: They asked my what my strategy was and I said I used my strongest strat and I'm f*cked now. Oh well.

Jo: I don't agree with them doing that. It's not fair to the people in the house. It doesn't affect me. How do you feel Ja?
Ja comes in and says: I was excited about it at first...but I think it will be a dead week next week so the new person can get back into things.
Josh disagrees

Ja: The only thing that will save them is if they get HOH.

Jo: I think Lori is the one with the hugest disadvantage. Lists why ok for others (girl/guy alliances etc.)
Jason goes back to lizards.

Ja: Hey, don't try to attack my finger! I want to pet you!

Feed 1:
L,M,Ch in BR

L: On internet there is a 10 sec delay so they can delay it.
Ch brushing teeth.

M: I'm not going to because I'm having some peanut butter. Oooh! Let's talk about older actress that we think will come back. Sissy Spacek.He lived in same building as production company as her movie In the House. M's friend is a location guy for Sex in the City and he can tell them lots of stories when they get out.
L left BR

Feed: 3

R in kitchen making protein drink, L getting water. Ja getting lettuce.

R: How do you feel about whoever comes back leaves? We have to stop that. If E comes back he can't leave.

L: I think they are all just saying that to take the pressure off of us.

L: They are like do I want E to come back so we can be split again.

R: In a game sense, you don't want him to come back.

L: I think it's for everybody but E (wanting whoever comes back to be voted out)
BB Jason please check your micro

R: G said that to me and I told him G would be in trouble. I told him (G) could have been zapped earlier after that whole debacle.
Talking about food. I gotta go!

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Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 4

Roddy, Lisa and Danielle in kitchen. Danielle is making hot dogs. Asks if they are still talking about actors and actresses? (talking about Chiara and Marcellas) Lisa answers yes...she just can't listen to that anymore, but she is amazed how they remember all that stuff.

FOTH

Watcher

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Quad Cam

Cams 1 & 2 show chess game between Josh and Gerry...neither talking.

Cam 3 & 4 show Lisa, Danielle, and Jason in kitchen. Can hear Chiara and Marcellas voices coming from other room. Danielle calls out comments now and then on different movies. Says her favorite teenage movie is "Pretty in Pink".

They are standing around kitchen island snacking. Danielle wonders if they can ask for more hot dogs.

Marcellas and Chiara walk into kitchen and cam follows Danielle outside as she takes a hot dog out to Roddy. He thanks her and tells her she is so nice.

Cam is back in kitchen now. Talking about how good the beef hot dogs are.

Jason has cooked some hot dogs in the microwave and says he has really overcooked those...not to look at them. Of course everyone looks and laughing and making comments about how bad they look. Danielle says they look like pickled penises.

Marcellas leans over to whisper something to Roddy...he sings out that is awful, but I love it.

Danielle throws a few darts and walks back to kitchen, saying she is still hungry.

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Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 4

Lisa and Roddy have gone out onto patio...sitting in papasan chairs chatting.

Roddy sometimes likes alone time and some of his girlfriends have taken it personally...they take it as he doesn't want to be with them.

Lisa asks how in the world does he break it off with a girlfriend as it seems like he never wants to hurt anyone. Marcellas comes out before he can answer and sits in other chair.

Marcellas says something about how Gerry made this impassioned plea to him...how he wants to get away from Josh and minutes later there he was in there playing chess with him.

Danielle and Gerry come outside now and join them. Can hear loud bouncing of basketball in background (Josh, I think).

Watcher

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 11:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 1 - Kitchen

Chiara is at sink washing dishes.

Jason standing at kitchen island drinking shake.

Chiara asks him how he is doing. Very well, he said...and how are you doing?

She asks how was his protein shake? He said it was very good, but he's still hungry.

She asks if he fought for her in the DR. He said, yes, he fought for her honor. (ed - DR must have been asking him about Veto meeting)

He says he defended them both really. (Josh and Chiara) Says he felt bad for her though and was watching her the whole time, just didn't know how she was reacting. Chiara thought she acted just fine. Yes, Jason agrees she did.

Chiara: I can't believe you defended him.

Jason: It's a tough spot...last effort.

Chiara: If your last ditch effort is to insult someone, it wasn't a very good effort anyhow.

Danielle comes in and now cam follows her to HRD with Marcellas

Watcher

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 11:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 4

Danielle says she just doesn't want to talk about the game anymore.

Marcellas says he just doesn't want to talk about it with him.

Danielle doesn't want to talk about it at all.

Danielle in low voice asks, did you hear her? Talking about Operation Revolving Door....talking about voting people out that come back in. It's that "strongarm tactic" again.

Marcellas: I am telling you one thing right now....if he walks in here and opens that door again tonight, it is ON. Don't open this door, walk past it.

Danielle suggests it be done in a different way...suggest he knock...there could be ladies changing clothes, etc.

Marcellas hates when he just opens the door and comes in and sits down and doesn't say anything, doesn't contribute anything, just sits there like a pale gorilla staring. (PP)

Danielle: Marcellas, they haven't seen me when I'm angry...and you think YOU can curse.

Marcellas: They don't want to see that day.

Danielle wishes she could talk to her mom. Marcellas wonders what it would hurt to just give them one phone call.

Talk of things that happenend last year...Hardy got a phone call and someone's mama sent a banner, Marcellas thinks. FOTH