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TV ClubHouse: Archive: USA 2002: General Discussion: EW Magazine says celebrity BB could happen next month: Archive through September 29, 2002

Woodpecke®

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 05:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it's hilarious.

Strawberry

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 05:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
that sounds kewl Whit - I didn't know about the 1st game. I only lurked last year and then joined up this year. Sounds like you either loved it or hated it.

I would love doing something like that and being in the Big Brother Fan Club

Whit4you

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 06:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Straw - lol yup... :) It was like taboo to even MENTION it here for a year or so - seems to be ok now lol.

I just sit here thinking about it and how totally melodramatic some of us got during that Game I - have to wonder if it comes across in the threads.. thing is though I think tons of threads were moderated (um they had to be things got very heated lol...) so not sure how much of THAT would come across... it's amazing though if you think about all that happened.. it's scary to even bring any of them up for fear of opening a can of worms you know what I mean? LOL. As bad as it might have gotten at times - just the fact that an online game - thought up by one person - could get that involved.. that I'm still afraid to bring UP some of the things that happened for fear of upsetting some people!

I said so many times during it that - the 'game' could be used for years by physcology teachers... cause it truely did seem like a study to me.

I mean seriously we had (and WE were getting upset - really upset at times.. by some of these things....) (trying to say some examples that might not upset someone...) anyhow... vote tampering....cheating... imposters... manipulation...lies..backstabbing... and much more and as strange as it might sound... at the TIME for many of us - it was REAL (I mean it was!! LOL) and it was upsetting and crazy... there were times I'd go to respond to a post and by the time I'd typed my response.. the post I was responding to was already archived lol

Well anyhow I better shut up before I do open a can of worms... I think but don't know, that it'd make for good reading in the off season lol. I just think it'd be hard to figure out what to read next... (trying to read threads by dates... and so on could get complicated... to try and stay with what was going on at any given time..)

FYI there were tons and tons of laughs too - but I honestly think you 'had to be there' to get the jokes ... perhaps not though.

Mags3

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 06:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bummer, in order to see this game it has to be downloaded. Not something I really care to do. Whenever I download something like this is never comes out right.

Strawberry

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 06:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
sounds like it got heated, maybe that's not such a good idea then. Sounds like a great idea though. The boards got a little heated this season too. I tried to dodge all the heat and limit my posts to neutral topics. hehe

Espen

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 06:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It would be interesting to see an "online" game with some of the "new" BBFC members in the "Shapiro" format, as one of the big problems the first time around seemed to be the voting process.. But like some have said, somehow I doubt Neil would ever go along with doing it again, even though it was probably one of the most fascinating discussion forum experiments ever..

Strawberry

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 06:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
maybe if there was another kind of voting process. I have no idea what though because I really have no clue how they voted the 1st time .... LOL. Maybe we can work on that!

Oregonfire

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 07:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Somewhat related: There is a German movie out that I saw reviewed on Ebert and Roeper last night, Das (or Der) Experiment, in which one half of a group were made prisoners, the other half, the guards. It looked pretty interesting, but predictable. Didn't some teacher in Canada do the same experiment a few years back in real life and had to end it because it got out of control?

I read Lord of the Flies. Nobody's stealing my glasses to make fire (Piggy). These things always turn ugly.

Gail

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 07:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have a couple of ideas on a way to have another game but I don't know if NEil would buy off on it. If I couldn't play, then I could help run it. Even if I played I could probably run it.

I think it both the game player's area and the game discussion area would both have to be hidden area - so it wouldn't disturb the rest of the board.

I can't even believe I am thinking about this. I would really like to play another "game" and this time not have a lynch mob come after me for being a moderator. The really great thing about it is that you really get to know some people here in way you'd never know otherwise. The bad thing is no matter how much you try to prevent it, it really is kind of like the real Big Brother. For example, I happened to like all of the BB3 Houseguests but as we saw over the past 3 months, a lot of posters really did not like certain houseguests - lots of Danielle and Roddy bashing, etc. It was bad enough trying to keep things civil with people on tv. I would not want to see the bashing spill over on to people here at TVCH.

If we can figure out a way to do this and keep it civil, who knows . . . maybe third time's a charm.

<gail wonders if she should set up a separate email account to entertain ideas - something like suckergail@aol.com sounds fitting>

Woodpecke®

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 07:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sounds like a great idea if we have guidelines. I would be interested if we can keep it from becoming a bash-fest. Input from many people seems to be a part of the solution to a civil game. Gail, you would have to play. LOL!

Whit4you

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 07:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well honestly I don't think it's possible to keep it civil - lol. I mean remember game I was 'anything goes!!!" and yet it really wasn't. And I don't think it ever COULD be... I mean even if it was 100% .. lying, cheating, vote tampering, impostering, backstabbing, and everything else - 100% totally allowed... it'd STILL turn out the same. Just look at how things turn out now with BB - even though lying and backstabbing are allowed - how dissed and bashed the HG's got!! And look at what happened to Roddy around here. People on my side of the game (myself included perhaps) seemed to completely lose track that these were real people with real feelings and fellow members of this board we were trashing out there ... lol.

I guess what I'm trying to say is the ONLY way to successfully DO another Game I - is to understand and accept that it'll turn OUT the same way... AGAIN - I don't see anyway for it NOT too... no matter how clear we set up rules saying all of those things that were problems in game 1 are totally allowed.... LOL.

At the end of Game I - I was totally totally upset at how people never ever wanted to do it again.. ya know? Because to me - no matter how upesetting it was at times (unreal now to think about that!!) and how frustrating and how irritating and so on... to me it was absolutely amazing.

But you know Neil was very set on not having another game after Game I - and somehow the 2nd game happened and seemed to turn out some major contention too so I really don't know if we'd even want to lay that on him.. ya know? I think the best we could do is get him to allow us (if people wanted to do it) to use one thread here as a jump off point for where the actual discussion area would take place (just my thoughts... )

My mind is racing though with thoughts - like wouldn't it turn out the same...? LOL I mean we'd HAVE to accept the fact that someone might be "an imposter" - period.. that'd be part of THE GAME just like Roddy using his Carisma was fair play in BB3... we'd HAVE to accept there's no way to have a perfect voting system.. because there isn't (although it can be done differently) we'd have to accept someone might cheat... and so on.

You know I'm probably scaring anyone who wasn't part of game I off of this idea anyhow... all I can say is - I was completely and totally involved in Game I and I walked away in awe and amazement and wanted a repeat.. so it isn't ALL BAD.. it was just bad for those who took away from it something different.

Here's what I have to say.. it was a game .. online.. and anyone who wanted to walk away from it clearly could.. just don't sign on that area of the board!! LOL so obviously they wanted to be there and be a part of it... right :)

Well I'm rambling - cause wow.. it's nice to be able to finally talk about "it" LOL :)

Woodpecke®

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 07:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I guess we would have to make sure that the people involved would be stable enough in real life to understand that it is a game. Sounds like it was fun for you, Whit.

Gail

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 07:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The problem was not so much in the game itself as the aftermaths. People get pretty passionate and tend to forget that it is just a game. Actually, Game 2 was actually pretty good (game 1 was good too but Game 2 with the chat option made it more meaningful to the players) - I think from both sides - lots of good posts and we were able to keep it pretty civil on the viewer's side.

If we could set up a separate site, it might work. I sent an email to Neil asking the question - if you all don't see me posting after tonight, you will know that it is possible to take someone out over the internet. :)

I have a couple of ideas that might work but the bottom line is Neil has to okay it.

Gail

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 07:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Woodpecker, it isn't the players we have to worry about.

Gail

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 07:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whit said, "Well I'm rambling - cause wow.. it's nice to be able to finally talk about "it" "

I still have not read most of the Game watcher discussion area. Though I have been looking alot at the players area for both Games 1 and 2 lately. Both are awesome! But, there are still people who don't want to talk about it.

Whit4you

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 07:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ya well I can tell you the 'outside area' for Game 1 was incredible and so intense Gail - I doubt anyone not involved at the time could ever feel the intensity but it was like WOW geez... we are all in some seroius need of valium here - it's a game people!!!! (I was just as much a part of it too though so don't think I'm trying to make it sound like *I* was different LOL)

"It was just a game" - but these were real people with REAL feelings.

I have to say though - I believe there should be NO real prize of any kind (This is my personal belief)

I think to apply someone should be required to read say a few select threads from Game I (the more intense heated ones.. so they know what they might be getting into lol)

Well I will shut up about this until we find out if Neil is even willing to let us use one thread as a jump-off point. Based on what you say about Game 2 - I see that he might.

I just wish I were not working full time right now - I would definately be on the inside.. (assuming I'd get in..) I'm very creative and full of ideas, I could keep the place hoping LOL.

But I'd be the Will/Dani/Roddy of Game 3 - so I probably wouldn't last long LOL.

Nice idea to entertain but I'd rather wait till I am not working full time (like next spring) so I guess that'd give ME an insentive to keep the peace in THIS game so we might have a Game 4...hmm.

Ooops I said I was going to shut up now didn't I LOL.

Goddessatlaw

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 07:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gail, honey, if you tell Neil I brought this up I shall deny it and implicate you without remorse or second thought. I will lie with impunity. I don't think Neil's ever had a reason to be honked at me, and I don't think I'll ever graduate to moderator if he finds out I had anything to do with this. Oh, wait, I'm technologically handicapped and therefore unfit to be a moderator, anyway. Nevermind. But I would lie for cause. Just sayin' . . .

Katlady53

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 08:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow, this whole unmentionable thing is sounding more and more intriguing. Lol

Whit4you

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 08:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Goddess - lol it's ok really it is - HE thought of the idea first, so he can't blame you for thinking of the idea!! Also it was one of the best ideas - and as I've said most interesting interent experiments ever. So no he couldn't fault you for having the same idea he had lol. Not sure how he'll feel about those of us nudging the ball on this thoug, I'll just stand behind Gail ... lol.

Gail

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 08:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I know - I am wondering how long we can post under the current thread heading and remain under the radar.

Whit4you

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 08:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Gail - I was just remembering that "throwing in raw meat" post... remember that? I think you were still on the inside then... but that was a total riot on the outside :)


For those who weren't there...

one of the BGs (board guests) had made herself a private 'room' so she could get away from one of the other's.... he wrote a post like this (something like this but I guess you had to be there it was beyond funny at the time)



quietly opening the door....

throwing in a piece of raw meat...

quietly closing the door...


(well it was something like this anyways but it was definately too funny....I think you'd need to know the story behind the two involved at that time ... scared to say without opening up a can of worms... but well she was sorta kinda a little bit Nicole v Will Shannon v Hardy and Gerry v Lisa ... all wrapped up into one at the time....against this guy LOL)

Goddessatlaw

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 08:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey, Whit get to the adoption thread - I think you have a taker. Re: raw meat - reminds me of the time I had a couple of defense attorneys throw packs of Camel no-filters through the courtroom door at me during the 10 days I thought I was going to quit smoking and they had to try and strike plea bargains with me. It was a riot.

Gail

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 08:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There were a lot of funny things and to this day, I think some of the best posting on this board has been from both Games (inside and out of the game area) - so many heartwarming stories, humorous stories, incredible life experiences, and just the most "heart" I have ever seen on the internet.

Whit4you

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 08:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gail - the best thread EVER (in my opinion) on this board, and on the net... was the Syncroncity thread (outside in Game I) there were so many levels to it - I could read the thread 30 times and still get something more from it the 30th time.

There were alot of great threads though not just that one of course LOL.


Gald to see you think of it the way I do - :) After the game though, it was like I didn't dare bring it up because emotions still ran so high... it was brought up LAST year on some other board and even THERE it got heated LOL... I think enough time has pasted now though.

I agree there were tons of hilarious things going on - that one just popped in my head.. had to be in the top 20 funnest moments LOL.

I do regret the few posters who left over it - but if it were up to me .. even if not one thing could be changed, I'd still absolutely do it again because I feel it's an experience those involved won't forget. I don't think for those who left over it... that they will always think of it (or this board) negatively... I just think they got busy elsewhere and didn't end up coming back. (Though I do recognize a few of them via their writing style... but obviously they wanted a fresh start and have that right)

Strawberry

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 08:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
lol @ Whit ... see now I'm more intruiged (sp?) w/ this...I wasn't even in on that and the meat throwing made me laugh!

I'm glad there is a mod in here because this thread has gone way off the heading! :o)