Moderator | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 10:38 am     This thread is to discuss player strategies for winning the Big Brother game or predicting its outcome. No bashing of the character of the houseguests will be allowed in this thread. You may discuss houseguest actions and lies that can affect the outcome of the game, just leave out the value judgments on the character of the player |
Spunky | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 11:20 am     Well, I guess everyone thinks Jason doesn't need any advice...but he does!! I understand he wants either Amy or Marcellas to go next so that he, Lisa and Danielle will be the last three. However he will have to be careful to not let the girls oust him before the last two standing. He has to make sure he's in the finals with Danielle and not with Lisa. He will surely wins against Danielle but not against Lisa (she's got the pack to back her up). |
Baronna | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 01:49 pm     I feel he should put Lisa and Amy up and they should all vote out Lisa. Surely Jason knows when it comes down to the final two, he can win over Dani, Marc or Amy. But if he's in final two with Lisa, he has more competition. Wouldn't it be best to get rid of her now while he has the opportunity. I would think Dani and Marc would want to get rid of her now too for the same reason. Then they could hope to get rid of Jason next because he would be their biggest competitor. Amy is a wild card and will side with anyone who is especially kind to her. Eric would turn against Jason for putting Lisa up. Chiara wouldn't. She was jealous of Lisa and she liked Jason. Don't know what Roddy would do. All the others liked Jason too. <<Barrona, dont use the [Enter] key except at the end of paragraphs. I deleted them out for you. The post will wrap automatically. Keep posting!! Mod (DH)>> |
Wrat1010 | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 04:51 pm     Telling Danielle you want the vote to be tied so you can decide who goes?!! Jason, what are you thinking?! Playing right into Danielle's hands, there, buddy. |
Crossfire | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 05:22 pm     EEEeek, did he do that? Asking for a blackmark from the jury. I thought he watched these programs in the past? Maybe he just wants a chance to show some independent thought? |
Wrat1010 | Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 07:06 am     Actually I take it back... Jason has so few black marks against him that he can afford to take a few -- in fact, it is imperative that he does get some. He should encourage Danielle to give the sympathy vote and play the role of bad guy to take out Marcellas. After that, the final 4 is Jason-Danielle-Lisa-Amy. He needs to convince Danielle to try to win HOH that week by dropping hints that Amy feels betrayed by Danielle and wants her out. |
Spunky | Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 01:27 pm     Jason should just concentrate on surviving Thursday's nomination (he will be up), and then it's smooth sailing till the end and winner of the 500k. The only person he may lose to is Lisa because she has the 6 pack to vote for her. However, I think Lisa will the the tenth hg going. |
Romans8_1 | Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 01:40 pm     I am a big Jason fan, but I've been playing the scenerios out and it looks like Jason will be gone next. I just don't see how he can get to the final three without turning on Danielle and calling her out on all her deals and getting some support. I think Danielle has no intention of him in the final 2. I don't think he will do this and he is gone next. It will be Danielle and Marcellas in the final 2. Danielle has played the game to a tee. |
Onsidelines | Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 02:32 pm     Jason has three pawns and one queen left. First Move - Nominate Amy and Mar Second Move - Win POV Third Move - Get yourself another queen. Veto one of the pawns either Amy or Mar by advancing them a space. I'd lean toward Amy because she may be more likely not to nominate you if she gets HOH next week when you are most vunerable. Fourth Move - Sacrifice your first queen by nominating Dani and same time turning Lisa into queen. Fifth move - Evict Dani. Either two new queens (Amy and Lisa) can do it. Or if they split, then advance final pawn Mar by doing it yourself. Result - Jason left with three loyal queens to protect him when he can't compete for HOH. |
Bb3junkie | Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 02:45 pm     Jason needs to speak to the other HG's and find out that Danielle has either promised, or hinted, that she will take all of them to the final 2 with her. Then, she needs to nominate her! They need to vote her out! That's his only chance! Then, he needs to take Marcellas with him. |
Wendo | Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 03:10 pm     The problem is, though, Dani is playing the game one or two steps ahead of Jason already. He also has problems nominating people because he likes to appear that he keeps his word. (ie: Roddy not nominated last time he was HOH.) Even if Ja went to Mar, Dani's already moved on him, this morning. We'll see though. Things change minute by minute in there. He may put Dani up today. I think it's REALLY possible. Dani made a tactical error, she shouldn't have told Ja about her "deal" with Marcellas. It's made him question her. Oops. Oh well. |
Wrat1010 | Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 04:31 pm     Jason needs to approach Amy (assuming POV doesn't change things) and see if he can obtain her word that she will not nominate him or vote against him next week, in return for his vote this week in the event of a tie. Amy has nothing to lose by making that deal because Jason is not a threat to her when it comes to winning because she has no chance of winning. The approach he should take is that Amy deserves to last longer in the game to prove to the others that her way of playing the game is just as good as theirs. Even if Danielle votes to evict Amy, there is a good chance that Lisa will vote to evict Marcellas (because I think Danielle will tell her to do that to let Jason be the tiebreaker). Now Jason can evict Marcellas! If Amy wins HOH or if Lisa wins HOH and nominates Jason and Danielle, or if Danielle wins HOH and nominates Lisa and Amy -- -in all 3 cases Jason stays because of his deal with Amy! But if he makes no deals with either Amy or Marcellas (but I don't think he should trust Marcellas since Marcellas now has reason not to trust Jason and Marcellas already has a deal with Danielle while Amy doesn't) then Jason is likely to get evicted next week and it would be deservedly so since it is stupid to win HOH at final 5 unless you can get some sort of deal out of it (just ask Hardy!). |
Spunky | Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 04:37 pm     Jason needs to have Danielle in the finals for a sure win. Lisa should be doing the same. No one from the jury would vote for Danielle to win. These people have to figure out that they need Danielle in the end to win the prize. Actually any of the others will do for Jason but not Lisa. He'll lose to her. |
Mollywood | Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 04:38 pm     jason doesnt need the coach..hes starting to get it himself. |
Gouraphik | Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 05:26 pm     Jason is stuck between a rock and a hard place right now. If Marcellas survives, he'll be gunning for Jason next week. If Danielle stays around, she may have Jason booted (in a "hands clean" manner, as always)...whether Marcellas stays or not. It's tricky. The worst thing that could happen is that both Marcellas & Danielle stay. Perhaps Jason can have the Veto used to put Danielle up (as long as she doesn't win it), and then have the voters boot her. Since it'd all go down on Thursday's live show, she'd have less of a chance to wriggle out of it once it happens. But will he do it? Nobody can say that for certain. |
Spunky | Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 06:24 pm     Okay, it looks like he knows for sure Marcellas will put him up if he wins HOH. This is another reason for Jason to tell Danielle "either you're with me or you're not" we have to make sure Marcellas goes!! It's time for him to stop being "Nice guy". |
Northstar | Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 06:38 pm     Jason needs to go get a couple glasses of water and then lock himself in the HOH room until late Sunday night. Let the stomping and screaming happen around him. The scheme developed the day of noms is never the same the day of evection. So, just chill for a while. He has snacks, he'll be fine. |
Loppes | Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 11:37 pm     Jason, Give it up on Chiara, you need to get laid, big time buddy. Lon |
Maris | Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 11:39 pm     I just can't relate to a 26 year old MAN talking about his crush. He sure is feeling like a fool right now. Putting his beliefs, etc aside, I think that Jason is suffering from arrested development. He talks like some sort of high school kid. |
Alegria | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 05:36 am     Jason - watch the stuttering, it's a dead giveaway that you are nervous. watch Danielle and see who she is spending time with, especially who she spends time with <apparently> not talking. mend fences with marc. Find a good explanation for why you put him up over Lisa and sell it to him (along with the brooklyn bridge). start to say things in the DR which question Danielle's motives but don't do it in a mean way, more puzzled - like you are working things out. Never say you are horny on live tv or feeds. Pray hard and know who to thank if you win. Remember that your mom is probably always watching. Good boy. |
Wiseolowl | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 06:33 am     I can't believe that Jason is seeing very quickly that the wheels are in motion for Danni to set him for a fall - next week in fact. He knows the history of reality TV and that she is too greedy to lose to him in the end. As risky as it may be, he needs to take Marci into theHOH - tell Dani he needs privacy to try and mend fences with Marci in case Marci is around next week, and then expose Jason's alliance with Danielle. Tell Marci it was she who suggested Marci's nomination and the secret plan is to evict him. Tell Marci he now realizes that she will probably turn on him as well and the only way for each to be saved is for the veto to be used , put Danni up and and oust her. Get him to agree to go after Lisa next and when it gets down to the final three let Jas Marci and Amy duke it out in a fair fight. It's risky because he will only have a one in three chance in the end as Marci or Amy as last HOH would probably oust Jason but as it stands his odds are worse than that now. Once Marcellus reveals that Danni told him that it would be the two of them at the end, both Jas and Marci have every justification for nullifying their pacts with her. I don't think he can go through Amy. She's too flaky would probably tell Marcellus anyways and any deal with her would collapse. Better to let Marci work on her first -tell her as little as possible -only that she has to use the veto if she gets it. |
Grannygrunt | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 06:48 am     Wise, I agree with you on all points. But I don't see Mar and Jason putting all of this together. (how many people still spell together as to get her? Ya'll are probably to young to remeber that!) However, Mar did say he wanted to talk to Jason and get the details of the noms but I "Think" Dani told him not to say anything to Jason, to just stay calm. If I have that all wrong please let me know. But if Mar did get to pick Jason's brain and in a round about way, ask if it was Dani's idea to put him up then things might change. |
Wiseolowl | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 07:27 am     Grannyg . I just think that it's time for bold action -even if Marci finds out through probing of Danni's double dealing -which is unlikely because Jason won't tell him, he's powerless to do much about it unless he's vetoed. Even then Amy will be gone and he will feel isolated Whom does he trust? From Jason's point of view having Marci find out doesn't help him - he'll go up next week anyways and likely goes. These two are marked and it's too late in the game to simply hope their little universe will simply unfold as it should. I know that Marcellus is difficult to deal with but it's a risk that Jason must take. You have to make allies out of what's available. Even Churchill and Roosevelt had nice things to say about Stalin during WW2! |
Spunky | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 08:33 am     Jason has no interest whatsoever to get rid of Danielle, he needs her in the end for a sure win. What he has to do is to get rid of Marcellas because he know he'll nominate him, he has to convince Danielle Marcellas' gotta go and pray he won't win the Golden Veto. |
Wiseolowl | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 08:47 am     Spunky I agree he needs her maybe over Lisa but he can beat the others. Unfortunately Danielle is going to pick up that common household tool which depending on the variation is known as a Phillips, Robertson or flathead and use it on Jason the way it was designed to work. |