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TV ClubHouse: Archive: USA 2002: General Discussion: EW Magazine says celebrity BB could happen next month: Archive through September 29, 2002

Gail

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 10:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
pictures of the carcass would be nice

Lurknomore

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 10:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
CC..I'd like to point out something. Sometimes people tend to forget this but celebrities ARE real people. They just have very public jobs. Folks like me (PR people) create and enhance images and then that is what the general public sees. But beyond that, and at the base of it, are very real people.

I think it would be MOST interesting to see how they actually interact, especially when they get past the image facade.

BTW, as someone who knows some so called celebs, I can tell you in almost all cases I prefer the real person to their public persona. Weird huh. So I think long as they are decent people it would be interesting for us and them. And let's not forget that many of them are where they are cause they have personality and humor. Gee wouldn't that be a refreshing BB change?!

Lurknomore

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 10:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh yeah forgot to add my 2 cents about Millionaire. I don't think it was killed by Celebrity millionaire. I think what did it in was being on almost every night, then moved all around, then never knowing when it was on. Moving a show is almost always a kiss of death for it.

Another problem was it was such a hug hit that the exploited it and burned the public out on it. I adore lobster but I'm sure if I ate it every night I'd get sick of it after awhile. Hey there is an interesting twist for next BB. Give em something good instead of PB&J and bet you after the first month folks will be hating it as much :)

Woodpecke®

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 10:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I watch the syndicated version. I still enjoy regular people attempting to answer questions and cash big checks. I never tire of that format. Challenging and fun. The celebrities were merely trying to advance their status by attempting to prove they were more than actors without a brain. Usually a failed experience.

Nmbeach

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 10:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I hate the celebrity idea too, and what kind of endurance test is 2 weeks in seclusion! I think it would be a real flop.

John32070

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 10:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I could (and maybe should) say something to Woodpecker about his comments, but like Gerry, I'll just keep quiet about it. I will say I hope he ate the feet and beak on that crow.

As to the celebrity BB idea, I think it could be interesting. I think as someone else said, it would show some big name stars as they truly are instead of what we see of them on tv or movies. Maybe Sheryl Crow liked what she saw and would agree to take part.

Woodpecke®

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 10:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am truly sorry John. I apologize profusely and hope you accept it sincerely. Meanwhile, I must find a way to get this taste out of my mouth.

Alaginger

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 11:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Gee.....this potential Celebrity BB or Survival scenario has me thinking about a couple of things. One is the likability of "The Star" if he/she shows themselves on the show to be a donkey's rear. Next is the insurance aspect. I'm thinking in terms like Betty Grable had her legs insured ... that kind of insurance thing. I can just see "The Star" calling his insurance company and saying, "I got hurt jumping off a cliff in Survivor". These two things probably don't mean a hill of beans, but they popped into my mind.

Goddessatlaw

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 11:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have a suggestion. Rather than wait for whatever celebs to sign up so we can feast on THEIR carci (yes, I made up a word hoping it is correct because what's the plural of carcuss my dictionary's not handy?), why don't we have a BBFanClub version of BB? Posters can submit their entry as to why they should be cast, the Fanclub can vote on who goes in the house, housemates exchange email addresses so they can conspire amongst themselves but are required to interact on the Board at particular times each day or every other day, and housemates vote on eviction except where there's a tie, then the FanClub votes. FanClub members can throw out subjects for housemates to discuss at the appointed times, etc. Certainly the rules would require fluidity (another made-up word) and maybe we'd need to set up a Shapiro board to delineate the rules, final prize, etc., but maybe something like this would quelle the boredom until the next house shows up on the radar screen. What do you think (PS yes, I blew off the F-1 race today, although I've been stalked from there by cell phone several times already today. May as well have gone).

PS this idea needs serious fleshing out, but thought I'd throw it out there while I had a few minutes.

Gail

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 11:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
>>why don't we have a BBFanClub version of BB? Posters can submit their entry as to why they should be cast, the Fanclub can vote on who goes in the house, housemates exchange email addresses so they can conspire amongst themselves but are required to interact on the Board at particular times each day or every other day, and housemates vote on eviction except where there's a tie, then the FanClub votes. >>

<gail faints!!>

Goddessatlaw

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 11:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
{{{{{{{Gail}}}}}}}}

just when you thought it was safe to leave the building . . .

Gail

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 11:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Goddess, we actually did play two BBFC Big Brother games. Check out the archives (link below) to see. While I think there are a few people who would love to do this again, I am not sure if we could handle the heat. I am pretty sure Neil would not let us do it either. I was thinking it would be fun to run one or at least play in another one (maybe for longer then I did the first time) but I was thinking we should do it where the players vote each other out like on the show.

Game Archives

I don't know everyone - are we ready to have another game and see yet another board created from people leaving this board because of it? innocent

Goddessatlaw

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 12:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think I need to go sign up for adoption - I didn't know you guys had tried this before, or that "Son of BBFC" had been spawned as a result thereof. I'll have to read through the archives now to see what happened. Guess I'M NOT going to be bored for awhile.

Gail

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 12:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Goddess, you've got mail. :)

Jazzmaroo

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 12:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If celebrities took part in BB, I wonder if it could hurt their carrier if they turned out to be a "Nicole", "Jordan", or "Mike-Boogie".

I would enjoy seeing, at least, one season of celebrity BB. It could be fun. :)

Bigsister

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 01:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think a celebrity Big Brother would be great fun, if -- and this is a big IF -- they are really A-list (or at least B or C list) celebrities. I don't think I would like to see if it the celebrities are people like Tonya Harding, Paula Jones, Danny Bonaduce, Kato Kaelin. Do you think they could find enough popular showbiz or sports people who would have the two weeks (or whatever) to do something like this?

Mamaanja

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 02:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it would be interesting to have a mixture of celebs and non-celebs. It would be fascinating to watch the dynamics. Maybe the non-celebs would be in awe at first. (I can't believe I'm locked in a house for three months with Tom Hanks and Madonna) but after a while, they would get used to it, develop friendships (or not). I think it would be cool to see the transition from "Wow" to, "Hey, no big deal, so I'm playing dominos with Julia Roberts".

Wendo

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 03:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Part of me would love to see a celebrity BB. But, like Bigsister, A-list celebs only. I can see some of them just breaking from the stress as well as a lot of ego manuevering.

A celebrity Survivor seems more logical in that it's a much shorter show. Who wouldn't love to see a celebrity get booted in the first spot?

Or, a mix of celebrities and real people. That would be interesting as well. You're on an island with 11 joe schmoes and 7 celebrities. That I would watch, especially if the real folk kicked butt!

Oregonfire

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 03:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think a BB celebrity house would be great for washed up celebrities who need something, anything, to revive their flagging careers. But a big name movie star or celebrity could be committing career suicide by going on the show:

--They'd miss out on major picture deals going on outside the house. The DR feeds them bits of Industry info that makes them crazed: Psst! Cher! Tell Julia that new 20 million dollar romantic comedy role just went to Reese Witherspoon. <Julia Roberts: I need an emergerncy Diary Room! I need to speak to my husband! *sob*>

--We do not want to see this people without their hairdressers, their makeup artists, their Botox injections, their Pilates, their live-in microbiotic chef, and their Percocet. Scary! All of the mirrors would need to be taken out of the house to prevent an en masse psychotic break.

--related to the point above: Celebrities need to maintain a certain mystique to keep themselves interesting. That was more true in the 40's, but still somewhat true today. The reality shows like "The Osbournes" are at least edited; I'm sure they get the final say about what goes on the air. With BB, it all hangs out, baby.

--"You'll never work in this town again"/constant FOTH: Celebrities would not be able to talk about anyone else in the biz for two months, which I bet is theoretically impossible. If they did talk crap, their careers would be over. Or all it would be constant FOTH 24/7. Yuck.

Those are just a few reason why I don't think the idea will fly. This coming from a celebrity news junkie. I love the idea, but know that the celebs would get crucified. Yup, only for the Danny Bonaduces and Tracy Binghams of the celeb world.

Wendo

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 03:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oregonfire, good points. That's why I see a Celebrity Survivor as more likely. It's an edited show and I think celebrities would like to do it for the challenge.

Oregonfire

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 04:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oops, we had some posting overlap there, Wendo. I didn't even see your post until I posted mine. I hate when that happens--it looks like you're responding to someone's post when your not!

Whit4you

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 04:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"why don't we have a BBFanClub version of BB? Posters can submit their entry as to why they should be cast, the Fanclub can vote on who goes in the house, housemates exchange email addresses so they can conspire amongst themselves but are required to interact on the Board at particular times each day or every other day, and housemates vote on eviction "

OMG - LOL :)

Um hun .. it's been done... :) While *I* think our Game 1 was one of the most awesome experiments ever in the history of the interent... um many would disagree... lol.

There are some people who think it was the worst thing ever...

amazing how different people percieve things hmm?

If you ever have a few free months read "game 1" archives it was ammmmmmazing stuff lol.

You have a great idea.. one they thought of and implimented here - some of us will always remember it as one of the best times ever... others well... left TVCH for good over ... that game. (though they still lurk here LOL)

I think the only way we could ever get a game like that going again would be 'off' the TVCH site.. and um as bad a taste as it left for a few - I am not sure they'd even let us promote it here...(ie have a thread to get people involved in it to go to some other site...)

I think AS and the players of BB2 and BB3 got all their ideas from our game 1... it was all done there first... and then some!!

Anyhow - good idea....check out the archive of Game 1.. lol.

Twiggyish

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 04:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Goddess, I think you get the idea of our own version of BB here..LOL

Whit4you

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 04:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL I soooooo miss game 1.. I'm gonna read those archives myself just for oldtiems sake.. it's amazing to me still how much emotion we all put into that... I laughed, I cried, I remember screaming at my tv screen... lol, all over a online...game. It seems so long ago now though - but I remember soooooooo much of it so well... I remember if I left for even a couple of hours from the area... I couldn't catch up with all the posts. I do hope though that those who walked away with a negative feelign towards it have come to feel a bit differently after all this time has past ya know? It truely was an amazing experience, that people could get so involved in an online game like we all did.

I wish I could read it from the standpoint of someone NOT involved - that's got to be strange. Seems they'd be shaking their heads saying .. people people people it's a game!!!! (and ya they'd definately be saying that to me ... just as much as anyone else)

The only regret I have over it all is that we did lose a few people that I really enjoyed, and a few of the most active posters never really recovered to their old level of posting... but - even without 'the game' - that happens sooner or later in most tight nit groups like we had.

As I was reading Goddess's post I was thinking - omg the mods will faint when they see that post.. and .. the next post said "Gail faints" LOL too funny.

Oregonfire

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 04:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, I wouldn't do a BB Fan Club version of BB, absolutely no way! I'm never the most popular person in the room, but I don't need that fact reaffirmed by others in front of countless internet viewers! There are limits to my masochism. You guys go for it if that's your bag. I'll go hang out in the Chess thread.