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Chance | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 12:32 am     Not much convo going on due to everyone getting food out of Storage Room. They are psyched...D taking orders, M/A/G helping carry out food. Someone wants an omlet Amy is opening cheese ( SHOCK!!!!) convo switches to movies |
Chance | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 12:48 am     Amy opens another package of cheese J doing fake ballet moves R encourages him R making Godzilla noises others laugh A creating a cheese pita bread sandwich to melt in micro wave They seem to be laying "movie catagories" Big Chill, Animal house, NL Vacation, Risky business, My bodyguard Revenge of the nerds, Young Frankenstein, Blazing Saddles D continues to make special order sandwiches D being very nice to Gerry D keeps yelling NEXT as she finishes one Sandwich and moves on to next HQ D says she worked at ? so she knows how to make a sandwich POSTING |
Chance | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 12:56 am     More eating and movie convo Oh they are talking about 70s movie blockbusters as referenced in my last post. Whole dining room table is awash in diff foods L says its hard to believe its one in the AM D still cranking out the sandwiches oops its kitchen island not table awash with food D says 9&1/2 weeks..Butch Cassidy and Sundance Kid L or A says Easy rider...Gerry said no thats 60s D says the longest yard D says Dirty Harry Someone is doing a great throatty impression of Clint Eastwood Whose the girl in War Games? Ali Sheedy G asks M if hes seen the recent film with Ali as a Lesbian M says yes he liked it POSTING |
Chance | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:08 am     now movies...war movies Platoon, Apoc now,Full metal jacket. Jason says hes heard good things about Hudson Hawk(from who???) G says how about any comedy with sly stallone M mentions Blue velvet HGs talking over one another...hard to sort it out R talking about the Discovery channel Now talking about Swordfish..they only liked some referrence to ? and Halle Berrys T**s, adds M D says she likes to add ranch dressing instead of mayo M mentions Last tango in Paris.. Brando gives a great performance says M D mentions Lipstick, dressed to kill, Hairspray M says how about the eyes of mara lars..Bonnie & Clyde M says last pic show M says what did altman do in 70s...MASH M says....Bad news bears, odd couple Now they move on to sports movies, the natural, Bull Durham |
Chance | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:15 am     Horror movies A killer clowns from outer space M texas Chain saw Mass. Aliens C brings up Footloose ..begins singing and dancing ala Footloose M says Ordinary People Invasion of the body snatchers C says trilogy of terror C trying to think of scary movie with Sissy Sp M yells Carrie they discuss scenes from Carrie C mentions Love story love is never having to say your sorry POSTING |
Chance | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:26 am     G & R outside talking about courses in college R says after he finishes this movie(?) hed like to get a masters degree G says "you've got me thinking" R says he would love a masters in Bio G would like to get a PhD in Philosophy G says some of the best courses he took were in philosophy G discussing historical references in bible R says theres been an evolution to religions R says religions have come and gone, that messiahs have come and gone and no one believed them R feels there were too many religions whose followers wrote books that were the word of God but since they vary how can they be true (pp) R says people want to believe we are here for a reason..they want to go to heaven so they believe R talking about (Masons)? not sure says they are so hardline, if you have an abortion you are damned. G & R now talk about taliban/ Muslems G says Bush calling them evil underestimates the Muslems R saysd yep I agree but they would open up death camps for us in a minute. G agrees R mentions a convo with his father R says what if TimothyMcVeigh had blown up parliament in England would the English have been right to nuke us? G says we back off from wars when boys come home in body bags POSTING |
Chance | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:34 am     G says he respects Arnold cause he belongs to a number of animal rights groups that Arnold stands up for what he believes in. G is pro animal rights to a certain extent like don't hunt if you're not going to eat it. R talking about deers...R says letting animals starve slowly (pp) rather than hunters thinning the herd makes no sense. R says many who fish just catch them and release them R says who am I to mess up the cycle of animals like salmon who have been swimming upstream, spawing for thousands of years. POSTING |
Chance | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:42 am     L in bedroom alone...music plays faintly in backround M/A/C/D/J still at kitchen table talking about movie industry. Back to G/R Gerry talks about he and 2 other cousins lived for extended periods of time with grandparents R says he would love to live both in country part time and city....needs both G talks about how where he lives has best of both worlds...big lots and many folks have horses R/G talk about earlier the house was low moralle but food cheered them up. R asks G to cover him if he is nominated then we get FOTH |
Chance | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:58 am     R & G discussing game strategy. R is surprised to learn things about other HGs R says almost everyone in house has come to him saying you're smart so why should we believe that you aren't screwing us (pp) R says I have made it clear that playing the game and preserving honesty trumps emotion in the house G says he has to keep his word...that is all he has(pp) thats why he had to tell about why he changed his word re M...G had to make the M speech to be true to himself R says I understand...it took a lot of ba**s to say what you did R says he told M that he hung out with Josh cause J was discriminated against in his life so R felt he wanted to say F***you to other HGs when they pressured R to dump Josh R tells Gerry that Joshs words against G were cruel,uncalled for, bad (pp) R views it as like a special ed student of G G says the only thing R did that was questionable was when Josh said he was walking...R gave J the attention he craved and G thinks j may have had to deal with his own games if R had not supported him. R says R is too much of a softie sometimes R says he'd rather go thru life trusting then getting stung rather than distrusting everyone. POSTING and BEDTIME |
Bernie | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 02:14 am     Quick update: all feeds on Roddy and Gerry in papasan chairs on patio, talking philosophically about American culture, and are sad at the state of it. Amy just came out and got a kiss from Roddy, and they asked if they were still talking movies inside, and they are. Roddy and Gerry 'understand' each other, and Gerry mentions French philosopher de Tocqueville, who said that Americans have curiosity a milewide, but only an inch deep, to show that he understands what Roddy means. They seem to be now talking about questionnaires they filled in, and explaining what they wrote. {Sorry, it's quite interesting, but way too fast for me to get a quarter of the discussion!} G'night! |
Bernie | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 02:38 am     Okay, another one, because Roddy just broke up the discussion in a nice way, saying that it was great talking to Gerry, and they went inside, both couldn't stand the movie chat. Gerry went to bathroom, and Roddy came in and talked to Chiara, criticising something, very emphatic, wasting four days talking about something. I think Jason and Danielle are also there, but the lights are out, can't seeQ Two feeds have gone to the HOH with Amy and Marcellas, while Chiara and Roddy having another argument, while Roddy is showering-=he's complaining, I should say, as he understands it's fun for them, but it's boring for him [ed:oh, poor diddums} Chirara gets his toothbrush for him, and tells him who has gone to bed. Sound now to HOH, Amy talking low to Marcellas, and can hardly hear what's being said. M is going to brush his teeth and will come back to finish this game[?] and will spend the day with her tomorrow, which she's happy about as no one will like her except Danielle, Gerry, Lisa [???} On Feed 3, Danielle, Chiara and Jason are on Hammock, and on Feed One Marcellas says he's put Amy to bed and will be going out to hang with the others if they'll have him back-talking to Roddy in bathroom. Roddy in white towel around waist. Chiara has just come in and they're in the bedroom next to the bathroom, where M is brushing, sound fron the dark bedroom as C gets ready for bed Feed 3 Jason and Danielle on hammock, and Roddy messing around in hottub, but has now joined them, out of sight of camera. {ED-Chiara must have been talking to Lisa in bedroom] Roddy making fun, of making fun of Chiara just now, and how they'd have made fun of him if he'd gone on about Johannes Kepler for days. All this re the movie listing game, I guess-he's really going overboard, and he thinks it's a way of avoiding intimacy-days of talking about celebrities, and he hates the waste of time. Danielle thinks it's maybe a way of people keeping attention away from themselves, having something else to talk about. Roddy says HE invented the game, but he's tired of the lack of real connecting type convos, the finding out about each other kind of convos, and he's on and on about how many hours the game has gone on. {ED-gotta take a break from 'the voice!' Sorry} |
Uhoh | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 02:58 am     jason and dani talking in hammock, strategizing d – i think it should be you, me, lisa – i love marcellas, don’t get me wrong, but lisa is good people j – you know what, i feel like a scumbag for doing the roddy thing, but it was the smartest thing we ever did j – did lisa vote eric? d – she voted amy to come back but don’t tell, she felt bad about it Jason now talking about being uncomfortable about being asked how he’s going to vote all the time j – every now again he’ll see me, and i try to act uncomfortable around you because he reads a lot of things, body language like that d – he’s dangerous, roddy’s dangerous j – but he’s super nice, and i’ll tell you what’s brilliant about how he’s playing the game – i don’t think he has said a negative thing about anybody in the DR – in the end nobody will have any reason to vote against him – i mean, i love him, i want to say ‘you’re awesome!’ … but ‘you can’t win it!’ |
Bernie | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 03:08 am     All feeds are the three outside. Roddy is sitting with the towel around him, talking, while Jason and Danielle are on the hammock. More of the same convo, Roddy wants conversations which exchange information between each of them, and the other two are agreeing, all mentioning that they've talked to Gerry and enjoyed getting to know him, Roddy goes inside, D is whispering and I can't hear because of the typing noise! It's strategy talk, Jason can't vote Roddy this week. Jason says he's being manipulated to not play the game, because he feels locked in, because if he does something off his own bat, like the Eric vote, he's made to feel like a big sinner, even though it's nothing compared to what those two did. He also doesn't want anyone to know how close he and D are, and they still have ach other's backs. J is whispering and missing what he says. He says next week, cannot let R get HOH. D thinks R has pulled M in, last week, because R said to L that he's concerned about J, because J has no commitment to anyone. They both love Marcellas, but he's not playing game well, they both think the last three should be themselves and LISA. D thinks Lisa is good folks, has good morals. They love M and A, like everyone, makes it hard to play the game. J feels like a scumbag to do the Eric thing, but it was the smartest thing he ever did, he was glad they'd planned who to vote for before the return, as he was scared of Eric's return. R pinned him against wall with his comment about J being happy Amy was the returnee. J thinks R is supicious of he and D, so he acts uncomfortable next to D. J thinks R is good at reading body language. D thinks he's dangerous, and J agrees, but R's also nice, too, genuine, and never makes nasty comments in DR, playing game well, and J admires him a lot. J was so relieved when Amy came in door, they really need someone to be the bad guy this week, to get someone out. J has noticed lots of things about people and the game. He reminds D of when they made their alliance in first week, and thinks when folks know about it, it will hurt R and C, and Ma and A. They get up and go inside, and it's 3.30 and it's dark. All feeds to bathroom, sound from the girls bedroom, where they're STILL up-then it cuts out, and it's Danielle in bathroom, all feeds-she forgot to shut off her mike at first, in wc. D to bedroom, says oh my god, and then we get the feeds all changed,it's Roddy talking about Egyptian exploration, the Rosetta stone no less! Sanskrit, ruins at Karnac, it had sat there unread for six thousand years-talking to Marcellas who says that if he's ever on Jeopardy he'll know the answer. Convo continues, all feeds on these two, and none on the others in bedrooms, so I'm definitely going beddy byes this time-night! |
Bernie | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 03:16 am     PS - Danielle washed her hands after the wc! And I think her 'oh my god' was because J, L and C were all awake in the bedroom when she entered. |
Maris | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 03:40 am     Marcellas talking a bout Museum of natural history. Jason says goodnight, Chia says goodnight, Dani says goodnight. Roddy talks about beaching whales and the worst waste of money spent on freeing Willy. 14 million bucks to save a whale when you could be patrolling the oceans and preventing poaching of whales. Unfortunately humans are the cause of the extinctions of a lot of species,............. |
Maris | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 04:12 am     Marcellas talking to Roddy about Gerry and the POV speech. Gerry:you didnt have to grandstand andmake the game about that and put an ugly mark on this house. Roddy: I dont think he had any idea of the serious things he was saying. If he really felt that there were a lot of ways he could go about doing that. If you were home and saw that and that is all you knew what would you say? Marcellas: exactly that is why I did the monkey thing. Roddy: laughing, you were telling me aboutthe Josh conversation Marcellas: we were talkinga boutGerry, it was like no matter what happens orhow I redeemedmyself I would still be gone because what Gerry's thing was about, the people in the house didnt like you and even if they did like you they gave their word against you. Josh did this wierd thing where he counted it down. He said he went to Jason which made me think Jason was in on it. He further counted it down and it looked like it was 7-2 and Danielle would be against me. Danielle and Jason had always said they didnt want anything to do with it. It became a thing with Jason and Danielle lying to me. I had always believed I didnt need the veto. Roddy: you and I had spoken about it and it was irrelevant. Remember when I came into the HRD and asked you if you wanted to be in the house. You had said you didnt want to be there. Its ok it happened. I got to know you and I was talking to Eric and Chiara about you. I was coming to you that day with Eric and Chiara who said let's keep Marcellas. I didnt realize that is what Josh was asking me. Everyone was like, its ok lets keep him. I told you if you want to stay that could happen. You were saying, I don't know if it was the veto day, but something happened and we didnt have to follow through. Sometimes because I like to fight the good fight. You get to go home and verify that this really happened. No matter what he made you feel like that wasnt the case. Josh had your number that you started believing him and getting mad at me. Roddy: was that the final spin he was doing? Marc: yes, he was trying to tell me you have to break your word to keep him. Roddy: A lot of this stuff was a fog with me. Marcellas: Chiara came into the room and ask what that was about. I asked Jason point blank did you lie to me. Chiara was who does he think he is. Roddy: The thing is he is getting away with, he is like Mr. Magoo (talking about Gerry). The fact is for Eric to be gone and him to be here. I personally think he isnt going up. For him to be here 50 days into it. For him to be in bed with you, Amy, Danielle. It is really strange. Marc: The thing of it is all three of hte people mentioned hate him. Your boy Josh kept us locked in with him. It made us us against you. Roddy: I know that has happened and it is strange that you say your boy. Eric and I didnt know what to do. We kept Joshie and we made a deal for a couple of weeks not to vote each other out. Joshie never did anything to me and never broke word to me which was my big conflict. Chiara asked me if I would vote against Josh. I told her I had to think about it and she said you are going up. If you did that to me or anyone did that to me and didnt even ask. I understand that but you should explain it. I knew that Joshie wanted, wasnt going to put me up. If you look at the alternative after we were hanging out and the couple was being mentioned every minute. If I were to tell her no, imagine the conflict I would have had to deal with. OMG I am now in thisgirlfriend boyfriend when Isure as hell could have been Chiara if we like each otherwe could talk about it on September 25th. Marcellas: that was a mistake you made Roddy: That is why our asses will be up. Yeah, I am telling you kid I did not want this whole thing to happen. I didn't want to be here by someones whatever. You start going in a back room everyone starts saying the couples, the couples. I was saying to people stop it, I have enough to worry about. Maybe I was naieve and thought the numbers wouldnt get smaller. I got put in this spot and I realized you and Amy were out of the loop for no other reason than you were labeled that way. To be part of any type of alliance I think is a flat out bad idea. Marc: One of the things I said to Chiara is one of the mistakes I made was to ally myself with Amy and we didnt even talk about the game. I was telling Amy stop the drinking, stop the loud southern girl thing. All the things she had an epiphany with you about I had been telling her for two weeks. I told her to stay away from Josh. nobody would trust her. The other mistake I made in the course of the game was the speech I made whenI nominated Josh ssetting myself up as the moral this is how the game can be played. It was sanctimonious but it is the way I thought the game could have gone. It was almost as bad as Gerry's racism speech. The other was yelling at Tonya for Amy's benefit. Roddy: Part of thereason the whole Chiara thing happened was because of Tonya. Tonya loved to gossip. She would say is that how you are going to treat your girlfriend. I was like what are you talking about I hardly know this girl. Was I going to tell four people to drop dead because I wasnt going to flirt with a girl. I didnt want any attention brought on myself. Tonya is the type to talk about a guy to all the girls when he is gone. There was a pressure on me that was I felt, smoothing things over. If I had said no, Tonya would have leveraged Lisa against me. Marc: any time I had a conversation with Chiara about Amy it was immediately filtered to Tonya. It became Tonya and Chiara against Amy. Roddy: imagine the position I was in. I will say it to you and I am not gossiping because it is out there. Nobody else should know about this. Chiara told me that I couldnt hang out with Amy any more. I told her to change her behavior. You are telling me not to talk to someone I am going to be in the house with all summer. I was railing with her, what if my mother is watching this (talking a bout Chiara and Jason). Before we talk about Amy lets talk about image. I give her free range because there is a game going on. For her to tell me you have to change your behavior and you cant see her. They laid the law down that I couldnt talk to Amy. That is how petty it got. I told her I was going to hang out with Amy. I took that risk to hang out with Amy for those people to hate my guts. Chiara was furious with me. Then Amy took the southern belle attitude with me the next day. Marc: that was the night Chiara and Tonya putthe screws to amy. Then it was Roddy is turning his back on me. I cant talk to Roddy. I told her Dont talk to him anymore. If that is going to make you a target, stay the away from him. Dont antagonize the structure of the house. her response was the juvenile six year old response that i will just cut him off. Roddy: I havenever told this to Amy. I dont want to hold something like hey look what I did. But I took a risk when went out and talked to her that night. I was going back to jackals. I was not going to let that nest of vipers tell me how to act. I had to go back to hell after spending the evening with her. For me to take a risk and then for amy to tell me go yurself. Marcellas: something happened with Chiara and Tonya. One of them said something to her and she came into the room and said I am going to stay away from him. |
Jan | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 04:13 am     I hope someone is cathcing this. I can't post but Roddy and Marc are still talking and Roddy is REALLY turning on Chiara. He is absolutely convincing Marc that he got caught up with Kik due to Tonya and her viscious tongue..he got caught up in a nest of vipers. He is telling marc how great Roddy is because he helped Amy even at teh risk of anger from Kik and her group etc etc etc..it's all about how kik is the leader and he got caught in the trap!!! Marc is totally falling for it. I keep waiting for him to blow Dani's cover becasue his lips are loose but so far the talk is still re Amy and tonya and Kik. Please someone post LF as I cannot this Am...and besides I can't type. THis takes me too long and I have missed a whole bunch of conversation while I hunt and peck |
Maris | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 04:15 am     Marc: it looked like you put her up because Chiara had a problem with her. Roddy: that wasnt the case. If I was a victim it was because of Josh and the fact that I was the only single straight non virgin guy here and I think Tonya's love of the dramatic helped manifest something and I was like literally "Oh". Lisa chiara and tonya spent every minute together for five days. For me to tell them to stick it. Roddy asks if Marc wants to go in the hot tub. They go to get bathings suits. |
Guiltyviewer | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 04:16 am     All cams on M,R,.. middle of convo-- R is telling the history of hieroglyphics--about 150-160 yrs ago, a young boy who was best student in France had a mentor. At the time, all things about Egypt were popular, any one who had money then had Egyptian articles in their home---the mentor had an obelisk in his, showed it to the boy. Boy asked what are symbols on it? Mentor says no one knows. At that moment, boy decided HE would one day figure it out. Over the years he worked on it and on a trip to ancient site of Carmac (sp?), he saw other hieroglyphics, and realized he'd figured it out!! R remembers particular article he read that said the messages were unread for a million nights! Then he says that's not right, M says he didn't think so, R seems focused on getting it right and roughly computes it should be half a million nights. M agrees that's more like it. Apparently Jason joined them cuz R recaps whole story for him about French student. M modestly says he loves Egyptian things, hieroglyphics -- in fact, he is a volunteer at Chicago museum(missed which one..sorry) and has for long time! Loves it! Gets to take his nephews often to any museum in the city for free as a volunteer benefit. Tells about his female friend who also vols, she's beautiful and all the little kids just love her. Most of other vols are much older and have been doing it 20 yrs so don't always like him. Everyone (vols) tries to get certain exhibits to volunteer for--some are better than others, he likes to get there early to get his favs, Hieroglyphics esp. Jason tells M that's awesome, good for him! Asks how often he does it, M says you must do at least twice/month, but he tries to do it once a week at least, only 6 blocks from his house so he can walk it. Loves it! Roddy asks him if it's tax deductible for his time donated. (ed: sheesh!) Mar says he doesn't know but will ask his CPA about it, plus he loves to give museum memberships as gifts. It doesn't matter he loves what he does. Loves museums--you should never be bored in a city w/museums. (he jokes sometimes about good place to scope out for good gay guys,too) Roddy told Marc (after telling camera to focus on him) that M MUST take him to the museum when he comes to Chicago. Says M shouldn't plan anything else that day, better take his pills, cuz when R goes to the museum, he's going to tell so much about everything there, his idea of a perfect day! In fact, he's already had that day--R has a best friend who lives in Chicago who's 40 times smarter than R! Talks about he has these amazing friends who took perfect trip to Alaska once---R was along to explain the Alaska history/science, another guy was an ornithologist (birds)by hobby but knows everything, another a geologist who went nuts over the volcanoes and glaciers they saw, and two others had their masters degrees in Physics! They saw villages, wildlife, unique tides, and they all explained it to each other. Great trip! M talks about tours for some groups easier than others---hard w/school groups cuz he has to spell all their names, its really hard with Hispanic kids cuz he has trouble spelling their names right, can have 200 kids to do, then worried about keeping them together, some exhibits you go to--nature walks esp--always takes head counts afraid he'd lose one!! (queens out a little ) M, R talk about changes in tours over the years-- now modernized w/headphones as you walk around. J jokes w/M about he must LOVE that (germs) but M says they're disposable so okay w/him. (laughs) M talks about diff exhibits are 'traps' for him--meaning he doesn't really like them cuz it upsets him. Example, nature walks talk about animals dying, chocolate exhibit you'd expect to be about sweet happy things but instead tells how early Indians who first knew of chocolate were exploited by Europeans, who then brought in slaves to take over for the Indians when they died of diseases brought by the Europeans, no immunity. Hard to guide tours thru, one room about poor Indians and their plight, then next room is all about black slaves! Pictures of slave ships, Middle Passage, bare-breasted slave women walking in chains off ships---hates seeing all that, esp when you're expecting CHOCOLATE! (R hums a little of "It's a Small World After All" joking). M says again he doesn't like those 'traps'. R talks about how much money is wasted on certain causes, ridiculous amts of money, using Free Willy as example. Ppl too gullible, believe anything! Instead of saving more worthy things, land/environment, they focused on this one thing instead. Ch walked thru talking about clean/dirty towels, laundry...left again. (sorry can't do more--cut finger, becoming too hard to type!) |
Spunkydoo | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 04:17 am     ******** Camera 4 ******** Roddy and Mar talking. Roddy badmouthing Chiara. R: I was straightforward with wy I nommed Amy. If I was a victim of anything it was Josh, and I was the only single straight non virgin guy here. I think Tonya's dramatics helped manifest something that I was like oh you understand L/C/T spent time together for 5 straight days. All I had to do was not, to reject somebody here. I can't be clear about this, to resist something, you know I'll worry about that after the show. If you gave that to Tonya she would drool on the floor. ***Mar and Rod are now heading to the hot tub*** |
Jan | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 04:23 am     previous conversation half an hour ago... M goes back to Jo telling him (M) that people would have voted him out. Ro tells M that it's not true since Ch, E and he had already decided to vote to keep M. They only wanted to vote M out when M told them that he wanted to go. As soon as M wanted to stay, they decided to keep him in. Then the POV happened and the vote didn't have to happen. M was upset that D or Ja may have lied to him and was part of the deal to get him out. He confronted Ja and Ja swore that he didn't lie to M. M was so mad a Jo after that. Ro is saying that Jo was just making trouble. Roddy moved to HT abd immediately put the jets on..also he does not seem to have a mike on . Is he hoping we can't hear (doesn't realize boom mikes near HT pick it up??) really must go now. THanks to LFP who showed up |
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