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Grannygrunt | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 04:26 am     quad cam check: cam1: dani sleeping cam2: hottub with mar and roddy cam3 and 4: same (may have to leave b/c i have grandbaby) |
Jan | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 04:30 am     Roddy asks Marc who Amy is going to nom. Marc really doesn't answer and goes into spiel about how when he was HOH he didn't want anyone telling him who to nom and he made sure that word got out. then Roddy asked how he would vote and he said that if R were up against Chi he would vote chi out. Now a long talk about his feelings for Amy and her non strategic play. Marc saying he doesn't have an agenda ..he wants Kik and Gerry gone and that's it. He is tired of being the but of the cute jokes. He put it out there but he is tired of it. I am missing so much of this conversation as I can't type and listen at the same time( ). I hope someone is getting it but I don't want you all to miss it so I will be late and try to get the highlights. |
Spunkydoo | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 04:32 am     ******** Camera 4 ******** Roddy and Mar talking. Roddy badmouthing Chiara. R: I was straightforward with wy I nommed Amy. If I was a victim of anything it was Josh, and I was the only single straight non virgin guy here. I think Tonya's dramatics helped manifest something that I was like oh you understand L/C/T spent time together for 5 straight days. All I had to do was not, to reject somebody here. I can't be clear about this, to resist something, you know I'll worry about that after the show. If you gave that to Tonya she would drool on the floor. ***Mar and Rod are now heading to the hot tub*** ******** Camera 3 ******** Roddy and Mar in hot tub. R: I think Chiara is gone. M: I think if C goes...she is not going because Amy is trying to avenge any slight. What happens is people are going to vote not because of Amy, but because what whatever person has done. It's essentially, my problem with vote loading, C came to me and said I'm gonna nom Josh. I would have voted for him anyhow. M expressing his disgust at C's "vote loading" M: Even though what she did was for the common good, she went about it wrong. If I wanted to use that for a reason to get rid of her, I could use that. Asking me for my word about my vote, that was too far. Unfortunately, that could have backfired against you. R: I said something to her, why don't you just leave it up to people. R saying how he didn't want to be involved in C's decision to "load votes". M: What I said to Amy was this - the same way I asked her not to influence me when I was HOH. My strategy when I came in was to pick off people that were obvious targets against me...the prettiest, the smartest. Then that changed, there is too many people have too many qualities. My first instinct was the mothers, but then you could just target everybody...just vote out the people you don't like...but I don't know what Amy is going to do. I want her to do it her way. R: I would talk to A today, I could tell she was concerned about this. I told her you're gonna make a good choice, I could go home, I don't want to, but...I guess everyone was on here case today. M: She came to me, she wanted to know what to do. I told her not to come to me, not to load my vote, for me it was pretty clear that I was going after Josh... R: What do you think? M: I have an idea of what she is going to do, it isn't set in stone. R: That is this point...it isn't going to change if we talk all night...if I'm here next week (couldn't hear) M: If you went up against C, I would not vote you out. *Talks about here lies, etc.* Until I catch you in something, I give you the benefit of the doubt. Amy throws a huge monkey wrench in things. When A was on her way out I was like good, she isn't playing the game well...The reason I like her in the house are not strategic reasons...for me next week...I want to play the game the way I want to play the game, the way I speaked of from the beginning. If I had a hit list, who has done dirt, who should go...it would be C and G. That is where I'm at for the next couple of weeks. I don't have an agenda...I'm tired of being the butt of the cute jokes...*Talks about the perception of him* M: I think a little bit of this ribbing I take has to do with the veto being used, all of the diary room time. ***lost connection*** |
Grannygrunt | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 04:32 am     mid convo: mar is telling roddy that amy coming back was a hugh change. mar really likes amy but she was not really playing game. mar for me next week. mar wants to play the game the way he wants to play. the way he is always wants to. he's tired of the jokes and compares that with the way roddy was linked to chiara. mar is tired of being the spotlight boy. mar say the ribbing he takes is because of the veto and DR things. him fighting with tonya and amy. mar says that is not good. hard to hear roddy. no mic. roddy said something and mar says that it may backfire. talk about the way dani is portrayed and gerry. now talk about jason. roddy is saying jason has such a clean slate. he and mar had a bad deal with being talked about. but jason is an innocent as can be. what could anybody say about him. very hard to hear roddy. |
Jan | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 04:36 am     Marc said something re Jason may win it all and now Roddy is talking re Jason but it is really hard to hear over the jets and his not wearing a mike (his plan) something about Jason being on edge the last few days.. "what about this marc..i can kindda see... then Marc breaks in and says I am going after Gerry. I don't like what he did. ..same story over again.. Gerry learing at him in the shower. Makes Marc feels uncomfortable ..doesn't know about his relationship with his wife Roddy cautions him tyo be careful what he says re Gerry in case he is wrong. cautions him not to tell anyone else that. Roddy standing up for g a bit. now roddy talking re josh...again can hardly hear roddy. He is talking about trying to caution Josh and guide him. and how he wanted to help Josh . Marc says your Josh is my Gerry who is a prison then comes back and says "you and me to the end". I know he would sell me out in a second. Roddy says what are chances G can beat you. He is now telling M same thing as D tells him. basically that G is on his side so don't kicjk him I think is the way he is going in this conversation. |
Maris | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 04:36 am     Marc: where is Jason. This is right up his alley. Six in the morning in the hot tub. So what are you going to do Roddy? Roddy: I dont know. I think Chiara is gone. Marc: I think if she goes. She is not going because Amy is trying to avenge any spite. But evenif she were it is valid. People are going to vote not because of Amy's vengeance but because of whatever she has done. It is essentially my problem with a lot of the vote loading. Chiara comes to me and says I am putting up Josh and could have walked away. I would ahve said great but she takes a step further and loads the vote and unfortunately we dont like to feel like that we are being told what to do. Even if we are being told for the common good it is wrong. Nobody likes to be bullied. Marc: what I said to Amy was this. The same way I asked her not to influence me during my vote. I knew she wanted me to put Chiara and Tonya up. My strategy was to put people up who were targets against me. So I was the prettiest, smartest people have to go. In the course of the game that changed. So I just put up the people I dont like and you hope at the end there were enough people that liked you. I dont know what Amy is going to do and I want her to do what she wants to do. Roddy: I talked to Amy today. I could tell that she was stressed. I told her what every you do, if I go home next week that is fine. I dont want to go but it is fine. She said thank you so much because I am getting hammered. Marc: She came to me and said this is what is going on what should I do. She gave me the same lattitude as when I was HOH. Everyone knew who I was going to put up and at the last moment I had come up with Tonya and Good God I wish I had come up with someone else. Roddy: so what do you think Marc: I have an idea what she is going to do, it wont be set in stone till the keys go in Roddy: I started to bring this up the other day. If I am here next week. Marc: If I had anything to do with it. If you were up with Chiara I would vote Chiara out. She has shown me instances of where she has blatently lied or done something I dont agree with. Until I catch you directly in something I have to give you the benefit of the doubt. The way I see things is Amy throws a monkey wrench into things. When Amy was on her way out I was like its good she is on her way out. She is not a team player and the reasons I like her in the house is for personal reasons. I think she is funny as hell. For me next week, I want to play a game the way I have been speaking about playing the game from the very beginning. Unfortunately for me, if I had a hit list. Who in the house at this point has done dirt and should go, it would be Chiara and Gerry. That is where I am at for the next couple of weeks. I dont have an agenda. I feel like I am in a nice position. I am tired of being the butt of the vanity and cute jokes. yes I put it out there and I have to deal with the ramifications of it. A lot of that is that I have been the spotlight boy. Roddy: Just the other day you told me you stare in the mirror more than anyone else on earth. Marc: fine I think a little of this ribbing has to do with the veto going my way, all the diary room time, me having a lot to do with the tv, me fighting with Tonya. For some people its becoming the Marcellas story. That is not good. Nobody wants to see the the camera hog walk away with the money. Roddy: Jasonhas beenon edge andstressed. Hehas such a clean slate. you and I talk about it. The kid is innocent as can be. Imagine the overload he feels. I don't think that he will walk through this unscathed untouched. I dont think it is the case anymore. What about this, I kind of see .... Marc: I am going after Gerry. I am putting myself out there because I dont like him. I dont like what he did, Idont like what he did immediately after that. He worked himself on me. I dont like that he leered at me in the shower. I know he has made me feel uncomfortable, I dont know what his relationship is with his wife. Roddy: you dont want a soundbite on that Marcellas: if it turns out that I was wrong and he made a mistake. It is a chance I have to take Roddy: I would not tell anyone else that Josh used to to work me and it didnt work. Marc: why did you want him around you Your Josh with My gerry. I know he runs around like the prison cutting deals and then comes back to me and says you and me to the end. I know he would sell me downt he river in a second. I know if his agenda works with my agenda he will vote my way. Roddy: what are the chances of Gerry going to be here. Gerry has no shot at being here for three weeks. Marc: think of all the people that are gone and Gerry is still here. |
Jan | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 04:42 am     R doesn't think G has a chance. Awkward stage right now. can still put people up. everyone has an eye on Ger. really hard to hear Rod. He works this no mike routine. Roddy says something that I can't hear at all. Marc says "I am very open to that" R "if we decide to do that, we will F**king" then I can't hear at all again!! Did anyone get it? Marc...I like that a lot because the neighbourhood I am in now I am not particularly enjoying. Marc is changing teams here!!!! but I could not hear the deal R offered. M says he feels like he has no power structure ..he is part of someone else's power structure. Cannot hear r at all but he is talking up a storm re vacancy caused by E. Marc says i know better than to tell Amy anything. Roddy is reeling this boy in big time here. MArc is jumping the clique ship and joining a team with Roddy. |
Jan | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 04:44 am     OK..it's a NonO to copy from other sites but this was missed here. It happened pre hot tub and you need to read it to catch Roddy's true genius: Ro is telling M that he can't understand how M came close to leaving while G has been in here so long and not even close to being voted out. G is like Mr. Magoo. All the sh*t is falling around him and not touching him. He doesn't think G deserves to be in the house for 50 days already adn he's probably not going up this week either. How can he still be in here when someone who is good like E is out of the house? M explains that E set himself up by becoming part of a couple. He also adds that "Ro's boy (Jo)" was pitting them (Jo, E, Li, Ch, Ro) against the others. Ro says that he was just thrown in this couples thing. He did not want to be part of anything. He wanted to tell Ch that if they really liked each other, they would wait to be a couple outside of the house. He could not stop what happened. He was the only single, eligible, non-virgin guy available and people threw them together since Li and E were already together. He is upset about Ch putting him up for noms. He is relating to D that Ch asked him if he would vote Jo out. Ro said that he couldn't since he had a deal with Jo for that week. Right away Ch said that he was up for noms against Jo. He wasn't given a say in it and can't believe it. She told him that she went around to everyone else and they all agreed to vote out Jo so she is taking away Ro's vote. He was really upset about it and couldn't believe that she would do that to him. Now, Ro is blaming To for being a huge gossip and causing trouble. To was keeping tabs on Ro. She would at him whenever he talked to A. M tells him that To watched everytime Ro talked to A. Then To would jump up like a shot and go tell Ch. He tells M that Ch told him point blank to stop talking to A. He was dragged into the hornet's nest of women (Ch, To, Li) and berated about talking to A and making it look like he was cheating on Ch. He couldn't believe it since he did not think he was Ch's anything. He defied them by talking to A all night one night and found out that A was a really great person. When he told Ch the next day, she was angry. Then A treated him badly the next day after he took such a huge risk with her. M explains that the next day, Ch and T had their screws into A and he had recommended to A to stop talking to Ro. M's expression was "Someone has sprayed their scent on that man, so you had better leave him alone." Ro saying that those girls (Li, Ch, To) were spending all their time together and Li was with E all night. How could he have told all four of them to "stick it in their ear" and he was not part of the group or a couple. He hated how To worked things to box him in. M is repeating that he told A to leave Ro alone since the other girls were giving her a hard time. Ro is telling M that he was giving Ch a hard time about her relationship with Ja for the same reason Ch berated him about A. Ro tells M that his mother could be watching and wonder why this girl who is with her son, jumping all over Ja? Ro and M decide to move the convo out to HT. |
Jan | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 04:45 am     Maris & Grannygrunt are here I see thank God so I have to go |
Grannygrunt | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 04:54 am     roddy is really working mar over. roddy thinks he and mar have a deal. roddy ask mar if he has a deal with dani. mar says not really a deal. mar said if dani tries to strong arm amy, then he knows she is just working her agenda. to get other people to do the dirty work. now they are talking about who would vote for each one of them at the end. (grandbaby is awake. have to go) |
Jan | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 05:01 am     Marc is talking Roddy into not using the veto at all. He is really assuring R that , in no scenario does he see A putting R up. She will put C up against someone in the house. C's only hope is to be put up against R. But M doesn't think A will do that. R sounds like he would use Veto and Marc is saying he would have done that for Amy and she would have been gone the next week anyway (like C who is more hated than even G) M is working R re the veto..not to use it |
Jan | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 05:02 am     Maris are you still there? I am really late and have to go! |
Jan | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 05:07 am     m has said Amy will put Kiki up against either M ro Jason or "b*lls up" against Dani..not against G as he might go and not against R I'm really gone now |
Kador | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 05:08 am     Just a quick post, but... Marcellus just spelled it all out for Roddy and told him that while Josh was running around trying to get people to think about taking that opportunity to vote out Roddy, everybody else had ALREADY decided to vote out Roddy and if for just one moment, one small day of that week Josh could have shown some shred of decency, hell if he had just stayed in that room and slept all week, Roddy would be gone right now. But Josh couldn't do it. Instead, he came out here and showed us even more ugliness and evilness. Roddy of course acts like he knew it all along. |
Maris | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 05:10 am     Am back. Thought there were enough feeders. Roddy: this is the best conversation we have had Marcellas: this is unreal, like cybersex. Do you have something up your sleeve where both you and Chiara are staying. Give me a scenario where you are both staying. If Amy is smart at alland she puts Gerry up there is a chance that Gerry goes. She knows that she cant stay in the house with both you and Chiara. She knows there is a chance that Gerry would go. She doesnt like Gerry. Her target is Chiara. She feels Chiara is directly responsible for ruining her stay in the house. I feel that is justified. Roddy The things Isaid that day were the reasons. Chiara had nothing to do... Marcells: I know. I told Amy she has to look inside herself and find some good inside herself. Unfortunatley the language you used to put her up was that you are not a good person tohave in this house. What that said to meis you said she was a bigger evil int he house than Josh or Gerry. Roddy: you cant say because there are other criminals you arent a criminal either. I said if someone says they do something selfishly I cant trust them later on in the game. Marcellas: what we are talking about is perceptions. What I saw is he is getting rid of you because you are not part of his alliance. |
Snogrl | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 05:11 am     I've been reading LFP the past 20 min and didn't realize no one is posting. Marcellus just sold out Danielle saying she is bullying Amy on votes. Roddy is telling Ma they will be the final 2 and both have a good shot. They went through all hg and said which one was in whose back pocket. |
Maris | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 05:22 am     Roddy: If you get a speeding and say officer what about him. Marc: 12 people in the house Roddy: you have to explainit like you are talking to a two year old Marc: I am telling you I walked away from the speech and I know how I bought it and how everyone else who was not Josh and not the coupels bought it. Even if you did it for the right reasons, the filter that it goes through. I am shitting bullets that your people are saying that you are really campaigning against me so I will go after her and myself up. From this point on in this game you have to say I am putting you up because you can beat me. You had already gone around and loaded the vote. Roddy: If by some chance she does it that way you beter make sure I dont go. Marc: you would be surprised at how willful Amy can be. Roddy: I dont underestimate her Marc: believe me, that girl has her sights on Chiara and you know what Iwill say this to you. If you decide you have to save Chiara because that is your girl. But do it fo the right reasons. If you pack your bags that girl is going right after you. Unless she gets HOH next week, she is going. If you feel as strongly about Chiara as I felt about Amy it is a terrible place to be. Roddy: If I didnt save Chiara, everything I said about sticking up for people wouldnt mean shit. Marc: let me ask you a question. You could have avoided the whole thing by staying in the pool. Why were you the first person out. Roddy: I knew I wasnt going to outlast eight people. Id idnt sleep the night before, Iw as a fraid everyone had me over. When I saw it was five nothing, I was omg, I didnt even get one vote. I was as nauseous and as stressed. I knew I was not sitting in that tub for five hours. First place or last place, I could have outlasted some but not all. The stress and sick feeling I had. Did you think I wanted this to happen? Marc: I think you were hedging your bets. I think it was a nice way to be off the hook and nominations out of your hands. The next thing is the POV. How hard will the two of you compete to get the POV. Roddy: I never thought Amy was going to outlast half the house. I was as surprised as anybody. As of today, I said I think I am gone in the DR. Why would I do that? Marc: you are charming, goodlooking and you know amy was after you. Why not substitute one girl for another girl. Roddy: this is news to me. I never thought of that. It is not like I am here are these big romances. It is a good idea maybe I should do that . Laughs Marc: roddy man. If either one of us makes it to the end, I will be amazed. Roddy: you are good at keeping your word huh? What I love the best is how wrong you have been about me so far. Marcellas: Roddy, goodnight. Roddy: Goodnight kid. Roddy goes to bathroom takes off towel, flashes camera. Goes to bed Marcellas in HOH room, goes to sleep |
Strawberry | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 05:22 am     Roddy and Marcellas in HT M Amy's target is Chiara. She feels that Chi is responsible for her leaving the house and for ruining her time in the house R The things I said are nothing. Thats the truth M She has to find something good out of a very bad situation. Unfortunately the language you used when you put her up is that she wasn't a good person M What that said is that she is not a good a person as G and Jo R You can't say 3 murders and one is worse than the other M If you put yourself up as a moral person in the house. You can't say that someone is worse than those 2 R That's not what I said M What we are talking about is perception. If you say you are this and this and a bigger devil is sitting next to you everyone thinks that you are putting out a big load of malarky M He is getting rid of you cuz you aren't part of his alliance. My speech about Josh was true. M The people sitting around you thought you were full of malarky. I was trying to get Jo out because Jo was going to get me out R If I say officer this guy was speeding he is gonna go hey this is about you. M Maybe Amy bought it. I know how I saw it. I don't know how other people bought it. People put their spin on and then it becomes this big thing. R I understand perceptions. M From now on you have to say I don't trust you that's why I'm putting you up. M You could've explained it to her later on her own. R If she does it that way you gotta make sure I don't go M You would be surprised how willful Amy can be. R You ready? M I'm wrinkled M Believe me I'm the one that didn't wanna know what other people wanted me to do and I don't know what that girl is gonna do M She has her heart set on Chi M If you save Chiara I understand R I might as well pack my bags M If that's what you wanna do. That girl is gonna go. Unless she gets HOH she's going M You guys are playing a very dangerous game. R Something else I'm scared of is if I didn't save Chiara everything I've said so far about sticking up for people and people are gonna think I'm full of *beep* M You could've avoided all this if you had stayed in the pool R I knew I wasn't going to outlast 8 people. I was up all night and tired. I was afraid everyone had *beeped* me over. I didn't even get one vote. I was lying down in that room feeling miserable. R The difference between 1st out and 2nd to last is the same. So what you think I wanted this to happen. M I think it's cause you knew it was a nice way to handle this. You don't have to make a decision. M You get put up with Chi and then one of you wins POV R I never dreamt that Amy would out last 1/2 the house. Today I told the DR that I think I'm going up M Because you are charming and good looking and you are going to sub one girl for another R I never thought of that. This is news to me. I like hanging out with Amy. But I didn't even kiss Chiara. It's not like I'm in here trying to get all these big romances. It's a good idea. Maybe I should do that M Laughing. If we are at the end of this game R You are pretty good @ keeping your word huh? M Yeah R Me too. What I find funny is how wrong you were about me. What I'm gonna like is when people get outta here and see the tapes M Roddy goodnight. |
Rod | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 05:23 am     came to help but it is all over now. They are getting ready for bed. Marc asked R outright if his plan was to lose HOH, let C get kicked, and use his charm and looks to get Amy in his pocket. Roddy actually denied it with a straight face, said it never ever occurred to him ..but hey, it sounds like a good idea. Maybe I should do it...so now it will be marc's idea. Roddy got a reaffirmation of M's word that they are an twosome alliance..but did Roddy ever give his word??? |
Grannygrunt | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 05:30 am     one quick note: after roddy has bashed chiara to the inth degree, he goes to bed and snuggles up with her. spooning with his arm wrapped around her. (i will not ed. but make up your own mind. ok i will UUUGGGGGHHH) |
Rod | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 05:48 am     sleeping HG's on all cameras |
Rod | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 07:14 am     2 cameras on empty back yard. two cameras on sleeping couples (r/c and A/m) |
Rod | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 07:31 am     no one is stirring on camera. If gerry is up, the cameras are not showing it. still same view as above |
Rod | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 07:44 am     I keep hearing loud footsteps. Gerry may be up but the cameras are not showing him. |
Watching2 | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 07:48 am     Quad cam: Amy & Mar asleep in HOH. Ch & Roddy asleep in HRD far apart. Roddy on top of covers, Ch under. Lisa w/back to camera. Two shots of the backyard. Can hear some footsteps every now and then, but can't see anyone. Every time I hear a noise, I think maybe they will show G up, but it's been at least 15 min. and nothing. I'll check back later. |
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