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Romans8_1

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 02:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There's been much discussion on Roddy influencing the vote. We've heard alot of the arguements, how about a raw vote YES/NO just so we can get a feel for how anybody left posting thinks.

I say yes.

Zachsmom

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 02:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I say NO

Richardfan

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 02:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
In the style of Woodpecke®:

Nope, uh uh, negative, never happened, there is no way Roddy influenced the vote.

Puttergirl

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 02:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Without a doubt. Its the only explanation for Josh changing his vote and looking so guilty about it.

Alegria

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 03:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think he did influence the others. After leaving the house he spent time with most of them and it looked like Roddy still had 'issues' at the final show, so I think he probably [at minimum] spoke his mind with the others and may have also pointed out things Dani said about them. 'he who laughs last, laughs best'

Zachsmom

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 03:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Puttergirl..Josh's friend Furry came on this website and posted that Josh changed his vote when Lisa was the only one not to take the money for the phone luxury contest. She also said that Roddy had no influence on the vote whatsoever..

Zachsmom

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 03:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here's Furry's post

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 03:01 pm
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Sonia- Yes, I'm the same Furry. I haven't asked Josh about it, but I did ask Merritt. I think he was influenced by Lisa when she turned down the bribe, but the other HGs took it.

One thing I am sure of, he was not influenced by Roddy.

Guinevere

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 03:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No.

Oregonfire

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 04:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Possibly, but no evidence to prove that he did.

Romans8_1

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 04:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It's 3-3 so far. I don't think at this point anybody is going to sway anybody. Do you? No need to defend what you believe, we've heard all the debates. How about just a raw vote.

Zeyna

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 04:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No

Oregonfire

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 04:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry, I'll have to abstain because I can't say for sure. Just would've be prudent. Not at this juncture. :)

Toolhound

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 04:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No I don't think he had any control over any of them at that point. I think Dani had pretty much convinced them all to vote for Lisa by talking bad about them after they left. The only difference would have been if it was Dani and Jason in the final 2 she would have lost 10 to 0.

Woodpecke®

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 04:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What Richardfan said. Danielle had no chance of a victory in the game.

Itsallgood

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 04:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nooooooooooo!!!!

Jane

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 04:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
YES -
-Because he was in touch with all of them as soon as he got out but then when it was all over he seemed to want to keep to himself (at the final parties)
- because he is a very subtle manipulater and some who were manipulated probably wouldn't even realize it. (remember Jason's tears? "Roddy is my friend!" - boom he changes his mind.)
- because they all seemed to know how the others had voted when they were revealing their votes (makes me think there was a group agreement)
- Because Josh talked the whole final show about how masterfully Danielle played. He told the group what a great game she played, he told the DR what a great game she played.(this is after Lisa didn't take the 15k) When he cast his vote he looked like he was doing something he didn't want to do. When he revealed his vote he looked like he had regret.
-Because Josh cried to Danielle at the end and apologized.

Shortnsweet

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 05:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No!

Potterlily2

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 05:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
heck yes he did.

Romans8_1

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 05:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
5 yes
7 no
1 undecided

Adrian

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 05:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Without a doubt.

Time will tell. I hope Josh will finally (the sooner, the better) tell us all what really happened and happening up to now.

Josh, the truth shall set you free.

Roddy may not be responsible for some other HGs final votes but it was very clear "he worked very hard" to get Josh's and Chiara's votes.

Crossfire

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 05:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd normally let this go, but since it seems we are keeping score, I better get my vote in.

He couldn't organise a vote while he was in the house when it mattered the most, so I doubt he could do it from the outside when the vulnerable ex guests had full support systems from real friends and family to 'guard' them from the evil influences of the great Roddy.

Chalk me up for a NO.

Joyful

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 05:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think he did influence Josh. Josh would do anything for him. Its kinda sad.

Misslibra

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 05:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Puh-leeze!! I mean NO!! :) In fact, I think some of the HG's still think they were played by Roddy like Amy, and did you see the stare Marcellas gave Roddy, the last time they got together to talk over their feelings about one another. If anyone tape the final show check out Marcellas when Roddy is speaking. If looks could kill, Roddy would of been dead.

And you notice who Roddy said he would remain friends with, Eric, Lisa, Josh and Chiara. Danielle didn't get any votes because of Danielle, and not Roddy. I will say this, Roddy could have influence the vote in a round about way, with the help of Danielle calling him Satan, the devil, lucifer repeating this over and over again. And I know she wasn't the only one who called Roddy the devil. But she was the one in my opinion took it to far, and to another level. I was bothered by how often she said it. She didn't know when to stop.

And we wont even mention the bedtime story. This is a fact and not a slam. Danielle did do this, and I am only testifying to what I saw, and heard. So I would say in that way Roddy did influence the vote. Chiara even said she didn't like Danielle calling Roddy the devil. And it is possible Chiara wasn't the only one who felt this way.

I liked Danielle. And in the beginning she was one of my favorites. I think she played a good game, but just made a few to many mistakes, she forgot that the HG's wouldn't be sequestered and that I believe cost her the game in the end.

And saying she was sorry for some of the things she said and did during the game could of helped her get more votes IMHO. But she said if she could do it all over again she would do it the same way. And guess what folks, we would get the same exact out come 9-1.

I always try to learn from my mistakes none of us are perfect. But it's up to us to learn from them so we don't repeat them. I honestly do wish Danielle and her family well. She played one heck of a game... thats it thats all! :)

Mlt

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 06:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Misslibra, I liked your comments. Until I read them, I was about to say Yes.

Not that I have any problem with the idea that Roddy might have manipulated the vote. After all, if BB didn't intend to let people try to persuade others to vote for a certain person, they wouldn't have them get together as a jury to discuss the final vote.

But when I read your comments, Misslibra, I found that I was agreeing with you. At least, you are certainly right about Marci. He was looking at Roddy as if he had heat vision and if he had, Roddy would have ended up as a pile of ash on the floor <g>. And Amy's vote might have had as much to do with how Dani betrayed Marci as anything else (just my opinion, of course).

And I don't think the house guests knew how Josh was going to vote before he revealed it in the house. At least, 'I did it. I voted for Lisa' only makes sense if he was revealing a change from his former position. And Lisa and Dani wouldn't know what he had been saying earlier so he wasn't saying it to them.

So, my response to the question would be a probable 'no' - at least I don't think Roddy manipulated the final vote any more than Dani manipulated the votes in the house <vbg>.

Onlyhuman

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 06:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No.