BB4 Twist: Sequester Every Evicted HG until the game is over!
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Adrian

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 08:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the best twist BB4 can do is by sequestering every evicted HG and putting them in the same sequestered evicted HGs' house. They can make simultaneous (or another show) show out of that evicted HGs house.

This is the best way to protect the integrity of the game. No peer pressure voting and any other outside influence. They (evicted HG) should never be allowed to see what the other HGs are saying in the DR until the game is over.

This will make the show and game more exciting.

Bigbrotherbelle

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 08:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Then why not just get their vote when they are evicted? Same thing, they'd be voting only with limited knowledge anyway.

Lisad

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 08:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Would make for GREAT live feed action. Watching TWO houses!

Adrian

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 09:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bigbrotherbelle,

How the first (or second or third or 4th ...) evicted HG will know who will be in the final 2?

Iceprincess

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 09:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Adrian,

What you do is make them put the houseguests in order from favorite to least favorite and the top person in the final 2 gets the votes.

For instance Lori could have had
Gerry
Josh
Danielle
Tonya
Amy
Lisa

Thus Danielle would have had her vote.

Jhezzie

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 09:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gee! Double the live feeds, double the FOTH, lol!:)

Whit4you

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 09:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Great Idea - and maybe the could name it Survivor?

Oh wait that's already being done :)

Adrian

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 09:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Iceprincess,

Not a bad idea. But I do not feel any kind of excitement in that type of voting. They should choose among the 2 finalists.

Momiee43

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 10:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The first BigBrother was set up for the HGs to get the public to vote, we got the say on who should leave and in the end who would take home the big money. BigBrother2 was set up with the HGs evicting each other to add spice to what many thought was a boring show. The people voting for the winner have alway had access to the DRs, and all shows. To win this game you must work towards getting other evicted while keeping them on your side. Will won last years BB because while he lied to them all he was very open in the DR about what he was doing. He told them all he was going to lie and he did. Dani played a great game and was a master at getting the right person out and keeping her and Jason safe. What she forgot was that the DR is not the place to thash fellow HGs. Had she stayed focused and just talked about her ability to control the game, and not the short comings she procived the others had she very well could have won. She got personal, very personal and down right mean. Yes others did the same but, they were not in the running for the 500k. Seeing the shows and watching the DRs is all part of the game. I loved the show this year and will be happy to watch again next year.

Adrian

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 04:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"Seeing the shows and watching the DRs is all part of the game."

They have to change that. And that's the twist!

Demeter

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 05:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I would not want the jurors to be sequestered. For me, a juror has access to as much of the information as possible.

Having jurors vote based on their experience when they leave opens a huge disadvantage to those who take a bit of time to develop their strategy.

What if one of the hgs becomes incredibly overbearing and just on the cusp of being abusive to other hgs, say after the 6th week. That person was a real charmer in the beginning and got all the evictees votes as they walked out the door. The person essentially becomes a creep as they relax into the show and their true colors become evident. Should that first evictee be forced to vote for that kind of person because he played a good early game?

For me, voting is based on having as much info as possible. BB knows all. The jurors become BB's voice at the end.

Mystery

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 11:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The game, as it exists now, requires HGs to play well within the house AND to convince the evicted HGs to vote for them even after they've seen what went on, and what continues to go on, in the game after they're gone. A game in which evicted HGs are sequestered does not do that. It might be a good game but it wouldn't be BB as we now know it. I like the fact that the first evicted HG can follow the whole game and decide who to vote for, rather than trying to vote on the basis of a week's worth of the game.

Gidget

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 11:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Great idea and a public service too

Sybilbb3oracle

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 12:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As important as the ehg are to the continuing drama of the show and the untimate selection of the big winner. I think that A S Endermol should keep the ehg on the payroll all the way. Have them study the show, continue to make public appearances to promote the show including giving their current feelings about who is winning the most friends inside and outside the house.
There are two sides to this contest; what goes on inside the house and what goes on outside the house; the winners have to play to both sides at all times. Let the ehg post on bbs boards like this one and lobby for their friends to influence other ehg. That will be stimulating promotion.

Sybilbb3oracle

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 12:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Also having a weekly roundtable of ehg to discuss the events of the week would sure enliven a saturday night show!

Turgon

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 12:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
they can do so many things to this show they just need to use their imagination, its limitless.

Landi

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 12:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
FINALLY!!! someone has heard my wishes... SEQUESTER! SEQUESTER! SEQUESTER!

landi

Bbfanatic

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 12:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
it wouldnt matter what changes were made, we would always be complaining/discussing different ways of doing the show or how one person should have won or vice versa. i say keep it the same with the usual new faces. well, i did like the longer competitions in bb1. well then it would be fun to have the pov for ourselves. hmmmmmmm

Keiffer

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 02:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is this sequester idea coming mainly from people who wanted Danny to win? This is like the PGA changing golf courses when TIger started winning trying to make it more "fair" for the others.

Look Will proved you could be opne and truthful in the DR and still win. Danny being truthful about her strategy in the DR is not what lost her the game. She was one of the two most vocal HG's about being trustworth, and honest the whole time, and then behaved in direct opposition to that. Had she not made such a big deal about those things then she would have gotten more votes.

Also you have to remember that Survivor only last like 36 days so keeping all the evicted people around only means a month out of their lives... not three months. Plus only nine out of the 16 vote so the first 7 people evicted get to travel around the country for a few days while they wait to come home.

Maybe if BB changed it so that only the final 7 voted on the jury you might convince me to put them someplace they could all hang out together, but that would have to be shown on the feeds. But I just do not think it is right to keep a person from their family for 3 months if they are one of the first evicted.

Battlestar

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 03:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't like the sequestering idea. Part of the game is the BIG BROTHER aspect...and Big Brother is not just CBS & Shapiro, but is the camera and the never relenting camera being on you at all times and how you deal with. The game is not just being played to the people in the house but to the people outside the house and the audience.

Just because Danielle blew it as far as KEEPING the votes by not understanding the impact of the outside on the evicted guests is not a good enough reason to change it.

So--I vote to evict sequestering

Victoriafla

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 03:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't like the idea either. I think it would be rather difficult to sequester some of the evicted hgs, say the ones booted the first few weeks, that woud be horrible. Maybe they would do it if they were given some extra money though..

Adrian

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 06:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sequestering the eviceted HG is not an idea that came up because my favorite player, Danielle lost the game. Are we (pro and anti Danielle) going to be divided again on this issue? :)

Evicted HGs can plot or vote as one or whatever they want but at least we the viewers will find out how and why they ultimately gave their votes to the eventual winner.

It is very interesting to know what will transpire in the evicted HGs' house once they reunite one by one in that house.

IMHO, the original concept of Big Brother game is to protect the integrity of the game (i.e, with all of them from 1st evicted HG to the ultimate winner not being able to have any kind of contact or being able to be influenced by anyone or whatever forces outside the house while the game is on!) from start to finish.

Keiffer

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 06:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The ORIGINAL concept of BB is for the viewers to vote for evictions, and for the eventual winner. WE found out that made only for every player using the path of leas resitance to try and stay on as many good sides as they could out in the viewing audience. The challenges had no weight because all they were playing for was food.

The new way I think a majority of people would aggree is much better. Part of the new way is that people have to find ways to both stay in the house, and find a way to do it so that a majority of evicted HG's with all the information available regarding your actions available to them still want you to win the money.

If you take away the gathering of informtion the evicted HG's can do then you make the game a great deal easier. Now all they have to do is half the work. It should be hard to win 500k... maybe harder than it is now, not easier.

Adrian

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 07:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, I guess they should rename the DR into KR (Kiss the other HGs' asses Room) ? :)

Sia

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 07:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
How about this twist: sequester the evicted hamsters and then add the final twist--the final voting is opened up to ALL Houseguests; anyone can win the money. But I wouldn't tell the hamsters that until the end of the game. New alliances would have formed in the EHG house, so it would be an entirely different game.

I like the idea of having live feeds in both houses, twice the fun! How does BBUSA differ from the end-game in other countries?

Adrian

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 07:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer,

That's not the ORIGINAL CONCEPT that's what they ORIGINALLY EXECUTED (and miserably failed!).

Mags3

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 06:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
BB is too cheap! Besides, if they did that, and I was in the house, I'd want to be evicted after the first week and get a 10 week paid vacation away from my own life.

Meggieprice

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 09:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The thing that I am afraid of is what Adrian mentioned-the DR won't be the place to be honest about your tactics and your feelings anymore. I personally watched the TV show mostly for the DR as that is the main thing you do not see on the feeds. I was bored by Roddy's DR and I knew exactly what he was dong in playing to the EHG. If everyone does that next year I will lose interest.

Azriel

Monday, September 30, 2002 - 06:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If they sequestered them like Survivor, then they would still get to talk to the other evicted HGs.

If everyone is just afraid that Roddy manipulated votes then this wouldn't solve anything. An evicted HG would still get to manipulate and in fact would have even more time and opportunity to sway the others because they would be locked up together.

Llkoolaid

Monday, September 30, 2002 - 07:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I posted this somewhere else but it applies here.
I think that the biggest arguement (Dani/non dani)comes from what we think constitutes playing the best game and what the jury should base their votes on. I think the hgs should know going in what they will be judged on, that the jury should have a criteria to rate them on, whatever it is doesn't matter. It could be made up with things like sneakiness or niceness, whatever. I think the jury should have to justify why they rate each hg a certain way. Whoever gets the most points wins. I was not happy with the key thing, I would have like to hear them say, I am voting for Lisa because she got to the end without backstabbing or I am voting for Danielle because she manipulated her way to the end without being caught. I really would like to hear their reason for their vote and their justification of it. I think this would make it fun, because they would have to play the game and luck wouldn't have as much to do with it and hopefully it might get rid of the highschool clique thing that has happened in the last 2 bigbrothers

Jagger

Monday, September 30, 2002 - 08:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If the voting this year is a trend to how people play the games in the future we will be back to BB1, where everyone is nice to each other the entire time. Noone will want to anger any of the present or former hgs. I like the idea of setting up a point systems for voting for the winner, where you can vote on a scale of 1 to 10 for such things as honesty, strategy, how well they did in comps., etc.

I think if they leave it how it is this year we will get too many people acting like Lisa did, and IMO that would be too boring. I know I wouldn't be able to watch a show with out some back stabbing, double crossing, tempers flaring, etc.

Adrian

Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 03:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"If they sequestered them like Survivor, then they would still get to talk to the other evicted HGs."

Remember the evicted HGs house will be shown in LIVE FEEDS and will have cameras all over too. We would witness everything. We will witness who is who among the evicted HGs in that separate house? Who is who, meaning who will tell more lies, who will do more backstabbing, who will campaign for who, who will be loyal to the end, who will realign with anyone, who will be a new man in the evicted HG house ... there are endless possibilities CBS can do in that evicted HGs house.

As someone suggested, CBS can put up any kind of interesting challenges or voting about anything that may jolt or shake the very foundation of the other house (the regular BB house i.e).

Adrian

Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 04:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They wasted a lot of money in sequestering Lori, Amy, Tonya and Eric. Many suspected that these HGs were able to get (accidental or not, it doesn't matter) a lot of outside contacts or communication with the outside that are detrimental to the integrity of the game.

Note: I am very surprised by Amy's reaction to Danielle's antics behind her backs. During her "temporary eviction", somehow her mother (or someone close to her?) was able to relay to her that Danielle is one of the Hgs that she should trust (?) in the house. I guess, she got mad to Danielle because on what she did (like mocking or making or fun of her) during the late part of the game. Many accused CBS people of spilling to Amy the "ORD" and "it was imperative for her to win the HOH if she ever manage to comeback to the house".

For sure there are a lot more things or secrets (little or big) that those 4 were able to gather (nkow) while in in their "not so guarded solitary sequestration".