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Maesin

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 06:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
L if it makes you feel better R didn’t have an easy speech either.
A I liked Jason, here ya go. Quotes Marie Osmond about laugh now if you cant laugh at it later.

A says M wont understand, but the nom doesn’t bother her.

They are talking about more weeks than Will last year. She has only voted once since she has been there. Once HOH then Tonya and Josh.

J that’s funny. Says he loves his shirt, but hates the sleeves
L that’s what makes it comfortable
J but I hate the look of it. Well, we knew this was going to get more difficult
A I don’t mind being nom, hate the damn speech.
J I hope you get a chance to talk it out
A like I told lisa separating game. M and her have had arguments about it several times. M doesn’t understand.

(reload rp)

A looks at nails, says she has to fix one. Knows she cant run around with one nail with no polish.

A goes to fix nail. L goes to kitchen. M walks into L.
M let me ask you something cus R just tried to call me out. When R came to you was he lobbying on Gerry’s behalf.
L no, but he wasn’t on amy’s side.
M talking about how R is playing game. (he’s upset). About how he chose sides and all.

L okay M. Breath. She gives him a hug. Says something. Totally garbled by hug.

M Jason I need to ask you a ? hate to bring you into whole thing
Says R said that R never did anything always been truthful. One of the reasons I don’t trust Roddy is b/c I felt he pressured you to vote for Eric.
J that whole week was nuts. Worst week for him house. POV day, that morning roll out of bed.
M no lets not play this game jumps straight to the point of if R asked J to vote for Eric.
Something about loading votes, wasn’t any of R’s business. I don’t even know why I have you in here.
J I did feel pressure on POV day. I could have been put up. They wanted to know. Asked kiki why she was turning on lisa, didn’t have good answer. POV day I did feel in corner. I was iffy and wishy washy.
M even if you did.
J I did say yes maybe. Even in the room. I guess you guys are voting, there were no answers. I didn’t feel extremely lobbied, just POV day.

Talk of distress.

J thanks for not noming me.
M even if I took out all the he said/she said stuff.
J gets something
M he said she said. Look at table, I gave him benefit of doubt as many times as I could. But how many times can I give it to someone.
J I think you made wise decision.
M I didn’t really want it this week. This is why.
(pp)
M all perception not logics like R thinks it is. Talks about Rs actions or lack there of. Talks of everyone showing true faces. Says he loves Amy, but she chatters over every one, cutting them off, not letting finishes, takes over. She got rid of Chiara so she could be provocative one, he doesn’t like it.
J wants Amy and M to work it out. He doesn’t want to see them lose the friendship. He thinks there is something great there. Says there are times when she does stuff, but
M he thinks the biggest thing within the game is Roddy. Thinks R is not playing game well. Thinks R messed up. Does not think Amy needs to go, but she is not a decoy. He wouldn’t put Jay up for decoy or Dani, but Amy has given him reason.

Amy enters HOH. She is sniffling

Jay says he is going to exit. Love ya think you’re both awesome
M and A we do too.

A and M hug.
M appologises.

out for now

Whit4you

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 06:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
(amy and Marc in hoh room)

Marc - Intellectually if I was taking out strong players - I wouldn't have went after either one of you. That's not what this nomination was about. I decided early on how I wanted to play the game, and I just think it's devicive if I have to worry about it every time I turn a corner and see him with you. And that's just how I feel about him.

Amy - I know that - I've known that Marcellas

Marc - I like how you've choose to play the game - and that's what he says - He says Marc I've been completely honest with you since day 1 .. I'm not supposed to hang out with Josh or Gerry. Unfortunately here perseption is everything and things stand out like neon lights.

Amy - that was a risk I was willing to take - because of my priority in the game

Marc - I think - I also say about the beginning of the game - there were people who came in not being moldable - who were being themselves. I knew there was a chance I would be nomiated - and I thought you and Josh would be nominated... and I thought of the 3 Josh would go. Unfortunately he was the smartest he worked it for a long time. I did not do this thinking that you would go. I did not do this...

Amy - Don't worry about it - I'm meant to be a nominee - I've only voted once you know? I've been nominated 4 times - been HOH once - voted once. But I don't want you to think the comments I make are because I am trying to belittle the game - I don't take life so seriously.

Aremid

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 06:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Mar - let me ask you something cause he just called me out
L - ok
Mar - when Roddy came to you and talked did you feel like he was lobbying on gerry's behalf
Lisa - I didn't feel he was lobbying on Amy's behalf
Mar - ...logically and ethically he can say I wasn't lobbying on Gerry's behalf, he wasn't Lobbying on Amy's behalf.... that is where he is getting the flashback from, being Josh's friend ( he named more but he was talking fast, hard to keep up)
Lisa - ok Mar
Mar - probably in the DR
Jason - Lisa did she go that way
Mar - I need to ask you a questio... he is playing I never did anything everyone around me did things, I was always honest, I am not wrong, blah blah blah, one of the reasons I don't trust R is that I felt like he pressured you to vote against E.. he said that you told him that you were voting to keep E...
J -that whole week.. one of the worst times for me in the house ....that morning early I'm up, POV meeting this morning whatever....
What I said to him
M ...he said he asked you directly and you told him you were voting for Eric...what I said was that there was no reason for him and Chiara to come to you and ask you to load the vote
(REAL PLAYER COMMUNITCATING ---SCREAM!)
Jason - why are you turning on L and I didn't have any good answer for it, POV day I felt I was pushed in a corner, if you don't do this .... I was iffy I was wishy washy, I said I guess Eric maybe... I said I won't vote for you on the Josh week... I didn't feel extremely lobbied, but I did feel there was pressure on the POV day, I was in the corner, pressure to save Eric... I hate to gossip right now...
Mar - you trusted R
Jason - I think he is brilliant
Jason - all that being said, thank you for not nominating me
Mar - even if I took out all the he said she said stuff
Jason goes out of the room
Mar - Jason you are making me think I can't trust you

Jason - R was by the door and I was loud
Jason - you made a wise decision I think it was good
Mar - he cannot think that for any reason that he would not have been nominated by anyone else... I didn't want to throw that stone... that logically .... this game is not logical, this game is about perceptions... I came to you gave you hints... you could have played the game better... you get flashbacks.... either his lack of action or his actions cause this to happen, and I'm not saying he shouldn't hang out with these people, but he should have let these people know... the same matter in which I was not running around with Josh.... ( says pretty much the same about Chiara and Gerry)
Mar - the truth goes the same for Amy but when I see her like last night, chattering over everyone...she's not letting people finish sentences, like she is taking Chiara's place beign the provacative girl.. I don't like that... and the other women in the house don't like that
Jason- you and A have a special relationship no matter what happens... I want you to keep that friendship alive because there is something great between you two.. I feel the same ways sometimes ( talking about things Amy does)
Mar -.. I say this to each person in the house, I think the biggest thing within the game is R. He says you want to get rid of me because I am playing the game well, nobody trusts you so you are not playing the game well.... I don't think Amy should go, but I don't believe in decoys, people should make their own decisions ( he says he is not putting up people for nothing, he has reason for putting Amy up)
Knock on door
Mar - come in
A - What's up
M - nothing
A - can I hang out with you
M - sure
J- guys I'm going to leave.. guys love you, think you are both awesome
A - we do too
A - Mar - I love you
Mar - I love you too, and it was the hardest thing I ever had to do
A - when you see the tape, I almost asked you to nominate you
Mar .... I do not want you to go... I did not do this because I want you to go... I did not decoy you... I didn't pull a J where I pulled everybody into the room, cause I already knew
A - and I did too
M - up until this morning you were as safe as could possibly be... for everybody to assume we were a block, fine they were right... I do not want you to leave the house, there is another person to leave the house... he has played the worse, this was your week up there next to him
A - the personal experience for me means so much more than the game,, that is why I know I won't be here for a lot amount of time... to me the game is so much separate, I completely separate the game from the personal aspects from it, the personal aspects are so much more rewarding, ... ultimately that will get me evicted... I was not suprised I was nominated, I just wanted that to be understood, it was not the nomination that threw me

M - intellectually if I was taking out stronger people in this game, it would not be either one of you, I decided early on how I wanted to play the game... I think it is devisive if I have to worry about somebody else, every time I turn the corner and see you with him...
A - I know that, I've known that Mar
Mar - I love how you say you have chosen to play the game... that is what he said.. Mar I have been completely honest with you from day one..I'm not supposed to hang out with Josh, I'm not supposed to hang out with Chiara, I'm not supposed to hang out with Gerry.... perception is everything
A - the personal aspects being such a ? part for me
Mar - I think there were people coming into the game not being moldible, not being able to play the game like other people... I thought you'd be nominated and Josh would be nominated, and out of the three of us Josh would be the one to go... unfortunately he was the smartest cause he worked it for a long time, kinda threw people up to be an obstacle for him... I did not do this thinking that you should go
A - Laughs and says don't worry about it, as Gerry says don't be conflicted... been nominated 4 times, HOH once, and voted once...but I don't want you to think that the comments I make are I'm trying to belittle the game
BB - Roddy please put on your microphone
Amy - I will walk out of this house again at some point, be it this week or next week, and when I do, I can't begin to explain ...how this experience has impacted me...experience means more to me than anything else... I guess that is why I joke about the actual game, cause it has been so much more to me... I had a freak out session the other day about what would and what wouldn't be aired...I went in there today and...
FOTH

Shrike3000

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 06:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
M and A in HOH hugging.

M says hardest thing he ever did. Both say they love each other.

M I do not want you to go. I did not decoy you but dont want you to go. We try and play this game above board, gauge players then take game out. I didnt call in everyone and ask. I already knew who to nom. Up until this morn you were safe. If everyone assume we were a block they were right. I do not want you to leave, dont think u deserve to leave. We play with who plays best and worst. This week was you next to him (Roddy)

A since I have been back the personal experienvce means more than the game, why I know I wont stay. I try and get most I can while I can.

Bbtimes3

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 06:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy & Marci in HOH 6:17 BB time

A - I've tried to get the most out of it while I'm here.

(got booted)

M - I did not do this thinking you would go.
A - Don't worry about it.

A - This completes the circle that was meant to be. I've already avoided the circle once before. I don't want you to think the comments I make belittle ?? It isn't...I will walk out of this house again whether it be this week or next week and I can't even begin to explain how this experience has impacted me in such a positive way. I guess that's why I sometimes almost joke about the actual game. Because it's so much bigger for me. We went into a freak out session about what would be aired and and what wouldn't....and FOTH

Back

A - First it was Roddy's speech and now it's your speech.
M - I talked to you so much about why we're here. I don't think I'm going to make it to the end game especially after this week.
A - It's not about strategy or conspiracy or plots...it's so personal for me. You love me
M - (They're hugging right now....) I want you in my life forever. I've cried more about you than any other thing.
A - Once again, I'm crying.
M - This whole thing works itself out to be true, then Roddy is the most ethical person in the game and you played it....Dani comes in


M - You can't win...that's what did him in. It's not about what he said or who did what. You did it to be emotional.
D - I told Lisa that whole E and C thing did me in and it shut me down.
M - For me that was it. I went to L and I said did he jockey for Chi and he said yes he did but did he jockey for Amy and he said no.

Dani leaves

M - Amy I'm real sorry. I did not mean this for a decoy or attempt to ??? (now Amy and Marc holding hands no talking)
M - Oh God. He told me something so unbelievably ugly G said about me. (not understanding....sounds like something from awhile ago)
Posting real quick at 6:30 BB time

Caro

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 06:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Feed 2:
R out from shower and wants to work on Gwen. Lisa helps him set it up.
Ja at card table D on red lounge
L: I want to do laundry but there's no soap
R: What's up?
L: I don't like this game.
R: Me neither, awww, it's just a game.
L: You want a squirt bottle? You will be on there a long time.
R: No
L goes inside
BB: R please put on your mic.
Quiet - D on red lounge, Ja playing solitaire at table.
R: Ja, when you stop it doesn't keep going.
Ja: That's a pretty intense bet R.
R: That's why I did it. Being a dope.
Ja and R talking about how to time how long he is on Gwen.
FOTH
R: God, this shouldn't be so hard (talking about gwen)
checking quad cam
Feed 4
Mar and A in hoh
A: And I would have it no other way. I love you M
M: (happy) I love you too.
A: I thought you were mad at me.
M: I would never be mad at you. I can't imagine my life without you. I have cried about you more than any other...
Hugging and both teary.
M: It's so funny. If this things works itself out to be true than R turns out to be the most ethical person in the world.
A: Come in! D comes in.
D: I just want to say this...(sound cuts out) he's so good about turning his words I'm glad you walked away.
M: When he walks that fine line, that's what did him in. He played game too logical, have to be emotional.
D: That thing with L and Ch. He turned it all around and said, "I can't win with you." So I shut it down.
M: I went to L, did he jockey for G? She said yes, but he didn't for A.
D: Exactly. His words. He turned them around.
Leaves
M: You know ultimately I had her up on the block with him. The powers (pp) But no A, I'm sorry.
A: It's ok.
M: I did not do it to decoy you or take you out of the game.
A: It would be funny if they show that diary rrom clip.
(loosing sound)
A: Everything is how it should be.
M: Oh God. He told me something so unbelievably ugly that Gerry said about me. He came to me when he (R) was lobbying against A. Why are you lobbying to get G. R said that G was lobbying to get me. Flew in the face of everything that G has done. I know R was in the ...room when G was telling me he would never go against me. As he was watching G go out the door he was lobbying for us to be friends. He said for life. But like people say, his character has peaked and he has to go
A: (pp) Things change everyday. I've said things that I don't believe the next day.
(missed some)
M: I could see R going to G and twisting, leading him towards turning on me. He opens the door, same way Josh does.
A: That hasn't happened to me. He doesn't ask me how I feel about so-and-so. We've never really sat and discussed the people and the plots. That's why I could never fully understand why people are frustrated with me
posting. audio probs

Whit4you

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 06:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
marc - he came to me and when I thought he was about to lobby against you - I asked him why are you lobbying for Gerry to stay. I'm not I thought one day you said you wanted Amy to go. I said I'm not. but why are you - because I know Gerry is after you - he told me he's out to get you. That flew in the face of everything Gerry had done - he told me he was not out to get me. Up to the moment Gerry was walking out the door he was reassurting that he wanted us to be friends - but then Roddy tells me that Gerry said - the charachter has peeked and it's time for him to be written off.

Amy - things change from day to day - and even I'm guilty - of one day saying one thing and another day thinking another.

Marc - there was a perception - that Gerry could never go against me and Dani because of his speech. I never bleieved that - he'd do anything to stay in so he would come after me. That just sounds like something he would say "The ex actor - jockeying for screen time"

Amy - he's never done that to me (Rod) We talk about how many days are in the game - those are the types of things we discuss..we've never really sat and discussed the people in the game and that. It's obvious Marc gets frustrated with me because he can't get through to me.

Marc - I always say that about him - I actually believe Roddy - but it's his effect on other people - people end up doing stuff for him that is to their detriment. Which Is why I couldn't trust you - when you were talking to him. 90% of the convo's he's had with me are not about the game - so I do believe most of the time it's not about the game BUT - he puts me up against you.

Marc - if he wanted to get rid of dead wait he shoulda put that b*tch on the block (PP) By your hanging out with him it looked like you accepted his behavior.

Amy - maybe there has been that perception of me as well - and like I said everything is as it should be. I"m completely fine.

Aremid

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 06:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy - then you said last week - you need to think why you're here, and I know why I'm here, and it is not about strategy, not about conspiracy,not about plots, and I wouldn't have it any other way
Amy - I love you Mar ( they hug)
Mar - I love you too, I can't imagine my life without you in it now
Amy - once again I'm crying
Mar - its so funny this whole thing works out to be true, then R was absolutely the most ethical person, and you played the game..
Dani comes in
Dani - you were smart to just walk away, cause I don't think you could have one
Mar - when he ... logic and perception, it is not about what you did or didn't say, you played this game to logical
Dani - I told you that Lisa and Eric thing bothered me, and he said she is my friend naturally I'm gonna tell her... he turned it all around
Mar - I went to Lisa, and said did he jocky for Gerry, and Lisa said yes he did but he didn't jocky for Amy... he walks that fine line
Dani leaves, said she will talk to him later
Mar - it is like Battle Royale - the last one remain standing
Mar - Amy I am sorry, I did not do this as some veiled attempt to decoy you or get you out of the game
Amy - it'll be funny if they show that diary room clip
Mar - he told me something so unbelieveably ugly that Gerry said about me
Amy - what
Mar- he came to me and when I thought he was lobbying against you and i said why are you lobbying for G to stay.... and he said well I know G is after you , he told me he is out to get you, and that flew in the face of everything that G had done to that point... I knew R was standing there when G was talkign to me about Josh... up to the point G walked out, he was reassurting that he wanted me in his life... and R told him that G said it was time for M to go... Mar goes on to talk about what Gerry might say... he gave G the benefit of the doubt, he could see R leading G towards turning on M...
Amy - that hasn't happened to me.. he has never done that to me, has never asked me what I think of so and so...we have never really sat and discussed the people in the game.. I've never had to deal with that...
Mar - I always say that it is not R I'm scared of , I actually believe him, but it is that people do things for him, that are for his benefit and to their detroment...90 percent of the conversations hes had with me are not about the game....he puts me up against you... he lays out a line of c---... at that time I think it was c---...talking about people in the game, Josh was sitting there, Gerry was sitting there... His woman was sitting there... wanting to get rid of some dead weight, he could have put her up....that sends a message... as I said to him, by your hanging out with him, it looks like
Amy - and I know my? this week... there has been that perception of me as well... I'm completely fine
Mar - you were insane today with your grandmother's ring
Amy - I was insane.... D said she would look for it.. and I'm like...nonono... it's gone
Amy - and you put me on the block
mar - the first time....
Amy - every time I go in the block there is a weird, oddball situation behind it... I got on your nerves... Mar that is my way, I do laugh about it... I wasn't belittling it, that was just a joke
Amy - don't be conflicted honey, it is ok
FEED TIMED OUT

Shrike3000

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 06:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
M to A - He told me something soo ugly about Gerry. I asked him why he lobbied against Gerry, Roddy said you told me you wanted Amy gone. I asked why you lobbied to keep Gerry, he said R said Gerry was out to get you. But I knew the truth. Up to the minute Gerry was walking out the door he was saying he wanted to be friends out of house. R said G said that the character has peaked and its time to be written off.

There was perception also that he could never come after me and D because of his speack. Never believed that. I knew G would do anything. But the X acter, that sounded like something he would say. I could see Roddy going to him and leading him to turning on me, thats what he does just like Josh.

A- He has never done that to me. thats not the kind of things we talk about. We dont discuss to ppl. I have never had to deal with that, thats why I never understood why u were so frustrated.

M- I always say that about him. I always beleive him, he gets ppl to do things for him. Thats why I couldnt trust you, bc you were always with him. D would always say why is your girl with him. I do beleive most of his convios arent about game, but he puts us up against each other, he puts out lines of crap, talks about ppl in the game. I wasnt say dont hang out with him, but hanging out with him looks like...

A- I know. there has been that perception of me. Like I said, everything is as it should be.

M- You drove me insane with Granma's ring.

A- I drove everyone insane, dont look for it, let it go, you dont have to find it (apparently lost a ring in HRD game) I felt like biggest baby in DR.

A- Your a decoy, I heard it all, I been on the block so many times.

M - This game has made everyone crazy.

A - I been nom more than anyone else. Don't be --- its ok.

Lots of laughing now, making jokes and having fun again, talking nasty about Gerry. Says G will need Kevlar suit if he really said that

A- they are gonna have to cancel the cast party, I dont know how other cast parties went but this one will be like showdown at OK corral.

A leaveing.

M - If you pass by R tell him I will talk to him again.

A- I will talk to him again, Can I still live here?

M- Yes you can -laughing-

A- Thank you honey thank you

Bbtimes3

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 06:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy left HOH to take a shower...Mar looking sleepy.

(out of here...see it's covered...GN)

Shrike3000

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 06:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Outside L / J / D playing cards, general card chir chat. Mar is yelling at them through window, just general conversation, couldnt understand what he said.

Back to playing cards...

Sross

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 06:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry, this was done very fast- tried to get as much convo as possible - argument
R: talking about Ger-he sounds upset)
M: i'm not just talking about him, but the perception, right dani?
D: mm
M: when we see you talking to others alone
D:
M: when the girls were complaing there are so many girls in the house...
R: if you hd a prob w/ me you shoud hv told me, you told me you trust me
D: (denied something)
<ed: roddy is talking so fast, hits so many points it is difficult for Dani to argue point for point>
R: you told me you answered you trusted me 100%
you were not honest. Im sure tht you told me
D:we had a conversation, I sd heres my problem that ki turned on Li & you used her
D: Ifeel you used ki to keep eric in the house
R: I remember when ki told me she was putting Lisa up, I din't influence her. I told her what I felt, but didn't tell her what to do
M: We can get into sematics, etc. she (dani) can tell you how she feels. There is a perception, right or wrong that there is a power structure in the house.
R: I don't think I did anything I did was wrong. What shd I have done, not talk to g or josh
M: you cd hve told them
R: I did talk to josh
M; that was so late
R: (ed: upset here, voice going up, like he's mad) you talk about a nest of vipers! its a game and i understand, but guys.....
M: everyone saw josh in your pocket, and lisa
(ed: marcelles said more than this, was very well spoken, and told Roddy his piece, but didn't go on for a long time)
R: your going from a to b and thinking your emotions are logical
M: that is not wht I sd, and not what I'm inferring.
R: for me to not talk to someone, because you don't want me to, when everyone was sh - - ting on him?
M; you cd have voted him out
R: i did as soon as it was possible
M: why did you not nominate gerry?
R: I asked you, I put options out, that is not immoral, that is not wrong
M: I am with you, if i maligned you I totally...
R: i totally forgive you. i understand what you did, and
M: ok
R: & you could be a little more accepting when someone forgives you
M: upset, walking away
R: I was going to give you a pat on the head or something
(ed: roddy is upset too, feed is bad)
(ed: planes overhead, making it hard)
R: (to dani): I wish you were honest
D: I'm not going to back out, you sd I sd it.
R: I understand what people feel is more important than reality.
R: what ws going on there w/ him? (ed: referring to M)
R: He sd he made a mistake & I was offering him love...what was that Ricky lake show about?
(silence)
R: ok i have a slow boat to catch
D: (after Roddy left) that flock of jackels, bunch of vultures
A: I'm not upset about being on the block daniel, I never am
D: I know, im upset about what he sd to you
A: I sd I wanted to come back into the house for the experience
D: I know hes your freind
A: I separate the game, I'm trying to keep it light, it's not the end of the world for me to be on the block, I was trying to keep it lite
D: he's your friend, talk to him
A: I know. on some things I don't know whre he is coming from
D: like w/ roddy, i told him about the lisa /eric thng - i am not sure if it was 100%, when your blocked against the wall you do what you can to crawl out. Let him (m) explain it to you
A: (missed it)
D: you're amy, ya either luv ya, or don't. I luv ya
(pp: i think amy sd she luved d too)
D: roddy is a good man, a good man. But talk to your friend.
A: (pp: she agreed, crying a bit,sniffing)
D: it's going to be alright girlfriend, i know it hurts
A: yeah, it does.
D: i know it hurt
A: it did
D: when this is over there will be relationships, remember that.
A: I know and thats why i tried to keep game separate from relationships
D: (now talking about roddy). yeah, I like him...
A & D commenting about dr & what will come up.
A: do you think im a better person since I came back?
D: oh yeah
A: crying, I've tried so hard to be a better person since I came back
D: it's hurtful, but you have to talk to your freind. You could sit here if you want for as long as you want;
A: I know
D: marcelles did it with class....
A: I know
A: if someone puts me up again, ok, but do it like Jason did, you know
(ed: amy gets ups, she's sniffling)
D: to Lisa, about Roddy
D: I brought up eric situation to Roddy, I sd i thgt you were lobbying to get lisa out, R totally went over it. he sd, "why wouldn't i say Eric was my friend, why wouldn't I say anything,", he's the master of words
(pp: dani retelling lisa what Roddy said about gerry),
D: he is so good with words, you just can't talk to him
L: he came out of shoewr & gave me a hurt little boy look, i aksed if he needed a hug & he just gave me a cold look
D: oooh
L: amy is going to be so heartbroken.....
D: I'm going to say one thing & let it go, you take someone aside and tell them (ed: implying M should have spoken privately, gently with amy?)
L: he tried that so many times, he wasn't geting thru-
D: I hurt for her, I understand it had to be done but I hurt for her
J: who do you hurt for?
D: amy
J: she'll be ok, shes talking with Marcelles.
D: I hate this game
...... 9(ed: more talk .. they are processing things that have happened)
D: even when I bought up the you & eric thing, he didnt want to hear it, he said go ahead and deny it, I sd i'm not trying to deny it.
(pause)
I lost feed and fights are over

(pp: after got feed back, Roddy was out of shower trying to get exercise machine to work, lisa came over to help him. Roddy said, why is this so hard, it was the bike, the game, the situation)

All seemed to just let things settle in. general chit chat, but there is tension in the background. Things are not normally happy, light. Jason plays cards, Roddy on machine. Lisa & danni talk of nothing in particular.

<ed: I'm sure I missed some of the convo, but this is as much as I caught, hope someone else was posting to fill in gaps)

Shrike3000

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 06:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
A & M.

M - I named the house a pack of jackals, but I have spent my whole stay trying to avoid the jackals.

A- I will tell you this I dont think there is a person in the house who hasnt acted like a Jackal,, except Jason

M- I havent! What have I done that was like a jackal, except for putting my best friend on the block.

A- Kinda like the Chiara thing

M- That is so much like the C and R thing, its funny, like I put my GF up. That is what my whole DR thing was about, you turned on her you will turn on me.

A- That is why I think everyone has acted like jackals

M- bc you have done everyone elses dirty work.

A- Everyone assumes you are always plotting

M- how can you play this game without plotting?

A - I did.

M- So all of a sudden you and Roddy are perfect angels (laughing) the 2 biggest villians on Big Brother are all of a sudden angels.

M- You were talking about people

A - We did not plot and talk about it.

M - I try and give people hints, good god I tried to give him a hint 2 days ago (kinda lost track of convo) I will have a pole up my butt for days because I want to compete...

They are both in bathroom doing stuff ( A brushing teeth)

M- And why havent they called me to DR

A- Why have they called me, I am nommed 4 times, I am tied with Will. What am I gonna wear to live show, every damn week, they have milked me for everything they could

M- They have milked me for everyting, I was nomed on week 1!

Switched feeds..

Sross

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 07:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
feed 2 Dani & Marcelles in HOH room
D tells Marcelles about the Roddy speech, says that he was calling her out and asking her about didn't he ask her if she trusted him, & she sd yes, Dani says, what can I do, he was there w/ ki, what do I say?, I say yes.

M says it's perception, it's what people percieve. they are discussing how he controlled Josh, he influenced Ki in her putting up Lisa.

Dani says that Roddy was so good with words

Marcelles said that putting A up was not a decoy, it's that people in the house had concerns about both of them, let the house decide.

Marcellas talks about decision, put up Lisa? He's talking about the decison

D about amy: she's young.

D: she told me she knows, (ed: talking about amy, how cute she is, )

M says that Roddy played the game bad, says it was splashin back on him

D: says it was beautiful when M said that it was splashing back on him. And that when Marcellas walked away, Roddy degraded him.

M: that was so like Gerry, like the ex actor, like he was exiting.

Danielle said something about girl power.
D: he throws that up???? there are no girls left
He said that I said that about the girls.I did say it, but it was like in passing. And he changes it around and makes it seem different.

M: you know what? it was the will of the house so everyone can get away from it. Anyone else would have had to do it.
D: I am glad you did it
M: he sd something about me to Lisa about me & the pool & lisa comes to me the next moringing all upset. He changed it. We did not have a deal on the table. He has come around with alot of things. He makes things sound all attractive.

Shrike3000

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 07:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
D & M in HOH

D - I told him, your the Devil, and your the Devils spawn, I pointed at both of them, Josh said da da da da da. Even when I brought up the Lisa and Eric stuff bc I felt like you were trying, he says eric is my friend why would i do that

M- and why did your gf all of a sudden turn on her supposed best friend

D- When I was asking him about E and L all of a sudden he stopped talking. Which means the Lisa turning on him thing wasnt true, and if it came from Josh he knows it was a lie.

M - When he was out there he told me he voted against Josh!

D- He did not vote against Josh!! Think about it, he said he would never vote against Josh, he is sooo good with words.

M- He keeps trying to make you feel like everything he says is logical, I said it just makes everything you say a weasel.

M- the whole Eric thing he said Jason told him twice, he said he said it in front of both of them, my whole point was you never should have put Jason in a position where he felt pressured. he should not have asked Ja in front of Eric. He wants to behave like things are clean but things are not clean, one of the reasons I put him agasinst A is the house says things about you, and the house says things about A and let the house decide.

M- I thought about putting you and R both on the block, but then I thought D would freak the F*ck out! Both laugh. I thought about putting Lisa up, about putting Jason up, then he would lose his freaking hair, I just knew Amy was the one.

D- I told Amy you are what you are, but you have come back better. When we get in group setting you try so hard to fit in, i see you searching so hard for stories to fit in. She is so cute

M- I think she has an amazing heart and has an amazing person. Roddy told me he is getting kicked out for playing the game well, but I told him it is because he has not been playing well, you have alligned yourself with bad people and done bad things.

D- Keep your cards close

M- I love that he told me, about Gerry, it sounds like something Gerry would say. ppl always assume G wont nom me but i knew he would

D- i always thought I like him but i dont trust him

M- you so want to beleive someone , when they tell you they love you, he told me he loved me

Talking about a girl alliance, and G spread rumors of girl alliance, but there are no girls left!

D- Roddy uses words, he takes words out of context and uses them. He says they all said this and gets all those ppl trippin.

M- It was the will of the house, I did what everyone said they were going to do.

D- you got me nervous for a while

M- and if anyone else was in this position they would have had to do the same thing, because if you do him a favor it looks like you are working for him. He told Lisa I had a deal with him, and I said what, I never had a deal with him. I had one deal with him a weeks ago, a one week i wont nom you if you dont nom me deal, I never had a long term deal with him.

Gerry was guilty of situational bull, but it is Roddy that puts him in that posiotion. Roddy makes you say things to survive because you get scared.

D- Bravo M, you are a good man.

M- I try, we will see what happens next week. If he somehow survived he will put me up.

D- I wont let that happen, i guarantee. Even Jason keeps saying he needs to go, I just had to keep my word to Kiki, jason said if you would see the tape of me talking to Roddy you would be so proud of me confronting him

M- somthing is going to happen still, something with HOH, like being able to be hoh every week, like new game ideas of how things will heat up

D- I have to win it now, its getting ridiculous

M- You are the Susan Lucci of losing HOH

Ptomaine

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 07:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani & Marc in HOH
Dani says that Roddy is so good with words. Marc says Roddy makes it seem that we are emotional and crazy and he is the only one making sense.

Dani says regarding the Eric situation that Roddy originally said that he got Jason's word with Eric in the room. Now Roddy says that it was him and Jason alone. Marc says Roddy wants to make it seem like his hand is clean, but it isn't.

Marc talks about the possibility of nominees to go up against Roddy. Saying that if he put Jason on the block, Jason's hair would go white and fall out.

Now they discuss Amy. Marc says that Amy is so cute.

Marc says that Roddy stated that Marc is kicking him out because he is playing the game well. Marc contests this statement, saying Roddy hasn't been playing the game well, because no one trusts him.

...

Marc says that at this point if you don't nominate Roddy people will think that you are aligned with him. Marc said that because of this he had to nominate Roddy.

...

Marc says that Roddy sets up threatening situation that forces people to say what they need to say to survive. Dani bolsters Marc saying "Bravo Marcellus, you're a good man!".

Marc worries that Roddy can survive this week. Marc states that if that happens he will be on the block. Dani assures him that Roddy won't (survive the week). She affirms that Jason wants Roddy out and will vote Roddy out this week. Letting Marc know that the reason Jason couldn't nominate Roddy was due to a promise to Chiara.

Ajpuppy

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 07:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I can help post for awhile. A, R, M, L outside working out. L on bike, R coaching A with exercises. J getting ready to join them. J out now, D in house. Not much talk right now, just exercising. R lifting weights, A telling J she's in pain from yesterday and working out. D in kitchen getting dinner ready.

Ptomaine

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 07:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy is saying that it is not the biggest deal (Marc nominating Roddy). Marc says that strategically he is worry about Roddy, he said that if he didn't put Roddy up that everyone will think that they have some deal.

Roddy reminds Marc of the hottub deal, saying that Marc broke it. Marc says that he didn't think that it was a deal. Roddy badgers Marc saying that it was a deal because Roddy said that it was set in stone and Marc agreed(... he said something about stone...) Roddy asks if Marc remember the excitement in their stomach that night? (Roddy looks at the house... seem like he's checking if someone is within earshot) Roddy says that it's OK that Marc goes back on the deal. Roddy presses harder, says that they can check the tape. Marc still doesn't agree. Marc says he's going to walk away from this because it will deteriorates to a contest of he said she said.

...

Roddy says that everyone thinks that there is a conspiracy? Marc says it's like the chicken and the egg. Roddy says that's right "Chicken". Marc laughs with disbelief. Roddy says that Marc knows that was a joke, right? Marc concedes.

Roddy says that if everyone feels this way then he is gone.

Ptomaine

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 07:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy is saying that it is not the biggest deal (Marc nominating Roddy). Marc says that strategically he is worry about Roddy, he said that if he didn't put Roddy up that everyone will think that they have some deal.

[the following paragraph was edited to include additional material, and may be out of sequence]

Roddy reminds Marc of the hottub deal, saying that Marc broke it. Marc says that he didn't think that it was a deal. Roddy badgers Marc saying that it was a deal because Roddy said that it was set in stone and Marc agreed(... he said something about stone...) Roddy asks if Marc remember the excitement in their stomach that night? (Roddy looks at the house... seem like he's checking if someone is within earshot) Roddy says that it's OK that Marc goes back on the deal. Roddy presses harder, says that they can check the tape. Marc still doesn't agree. Roddy says that it is too late now that nominations are made (something along the line that there is no need for Roddy to make this the truth, because at this juncture it is basically pointless. Therefore, it must be the truth.) Marc says he's going to walk away from this because it will deteriorates to a contest of he said she said.

...

Roddy says that everyone thinks that there is a conspiracy? Marc says it's like the chicken and the egg. Roddy says that's right "Chicken". Marc laughs with disbelief. Roddy says that Marc knows that was a joke, right? Marc concedes.

Roddy says that if everyone feels this way then he is gone.

Ajpuppy

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 07:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
2 feeds outside on exercisers, and 2 feeds in kitchen on Danni. R sat down on bball court for a break, drinking water, M is doing lunges by HT. L on bike. No talk, R stretching legs. J tells M good job, he was doing lunges with smal weights. A is complaining about how many times she has to do lunges, she has to go 12 times? A doing lunges saying they hurt, and going ow, L cranking fast on the bike. J is encouraging A. Now J is doing lunges, A did her 12 lunges. D comes out and asks if they want all of the fish and zucchini, A wants fried zuchini, D will sautee it, but will leave some for A to fry if she'd like, A says doen'st know how, so she will eat it sauteed. M says he really thought they'd (BB) come out and tell them what to do to fix something. (Sorry, can't type and see feeds at same time, don't know what M is referring to.)

Closeups of D chopping zucchini. R and A on towels on grass getting ready to do abs workout. BB calls M to DR. R teases him he's lucky they called him in. R, A and J doing abs now. Counting down as they do them.

Sross

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 07:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy playing basketball, Marcelles comes out,
Roddy talks about how M should have accepted it when Roddy said he forgave M for putting him up when M was wrong. They hug
M explained what he is trying to do with the nom. & says it's a crazy game.
(the mood is lighter, now.)
Roddy talks of "deal" with Roddy.
R: & I said clearly, (whispers.) Don't worry, it's over. It won't change
M: we can't keep going over this
R: I'm not going to whine....
M: is this over?
R: ok.
M; is this going to be ant farm fever?
R: unfortunatley we are doing the worst thing in the world.
R: i'm a big enuf man to know that it's a he-said, he-said thing
M: It is. Are we going to know at the end of the show
L: they are going to show certain things, they will pick out particular things
M: picking stuff in BY, "am I going to have to pick all this stuff up?"
M: to Roddy about helping to spot him with weights
BB: LISA, PLS PUT ON YOUR MICROPHONE
R (exercising with free weights)
R: Roddy do you have sneakers here
M: yeah, thats what I'm wearing
(M spotting Roddy who just put on quite a show with barbelll):wow
Roddy breathing hard
M: careful, Roddy
(Roddy really put himself out and breathes real heavy for a long time)
R: is everyone in the house worried about a conspiracy?
M: it's the "Chicken & the egg"
R: you know I'm just fooling, right Marcelles? You know I'm just f---g around?
M: (something)
R: because if everyone thinks that, I'll be out of here
M: it would seem that way
R: because I'm like a zit on Marilyn Monroe's face
(amy comes out, Roddy is going to give her a set to do with barbell)
Roddy instructs her

Ajpuppy

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 07:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
A, J, R each counting seperately as they do ab workout. L still on bike. All 4 feeds outside.

Exercise continues with R coaching A and J, having them count down. Posting to show only working out and no other talk right now.

Ajpuppy

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 07:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
R showing A how to do oblique exercises now, move on side, lift legs up, etc. R tells her to expect it to hurt. A will count first 8, J will count next 8.

Exercise continues, all 4 feeds still outside.

A, J, R resting on towels, and L still on bike.

Ajpuppy

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 07:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
R now shooting baskets, L on bike, J doing lunges by HT. R asks A how she is feeling, A is okay. R is tired.

R asks J how much life he has left, J says if you want to do more, let's go. Talk of doing bi workout now. A on lounge chair. R still shooting baskets.

J spraying yard with hose. L on bike. M must still be in DR, and D in kitchen, no sign of them on feeds.

No talk of any kind for a few minutes.

Ajpuppy

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
2 feeds of A looking deep in thought, 2 on R shooting baskets. A looks sad, resting her face on her hand.

R what's up Amo? R says best he ever shot in his life, maybe he should always be put on block, A says he is on block. He wants footage of how well he is shooting baskets. A says, just when you think you can tie my record. R, says, upstaged, right, what crap!

J and D in kitchen, talking of food for dinner, D all this fish cooking, I think we'll be alright, J wants to know when dinner will be, about 9 oclock, right? J is trying to get yard clean from pies. HOw gross it is.

J asks L how long she is on bike, she says 12 mins (I think) He says she is hanging in, she has to go the time that she has bet with R. L going very fast on bike, J counting down. L done, off bike, getting praise from A and J.

R and J sitting in papasan chairs, told A no bi's tongiht they are too tired. A is looking for Charlotte the spider. J says whole web is gone. Closeup of R, tired from workout. J says about 30-40 mins till dinner.

A says looks like spider caught something, which is why web is gone, A and J are looking for spider. A thinks BB moved spider, will ask in DR.

J talks of nests of spiders all over place in yard. A says oh that's comforting. (sarcastic) Talk of spider egg sacs. A talks of Charlotte's Web.

Camera shows D in kitchen from outside. J asks R where moon will be tonight. Talk of where moon will be positioned tonight, and evening star too.

R 6/21 favorite day of year, grandma's b-day and he fishes for salmon, she passed away, but alwaYs thinks of her on that day. J, his mamma died when he was 4 or 5. Talk of how time passes, and things seem like they just happened when they didn't. J's grandma died young, at 53, from cancer. J it's weird, my parents are that age now, weird to think about.

Now quiet again, all seem deep in thought.