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TV ClubHouse: Archive: USA 2002: - LIVE FEEDS -: Big Brother III Archive of Live Feeds (USA): Big Brother III - July 2002 Live Feed Archives: Day 8 - Tonya & Chiara shower, Luxury challenge: Archive through July 13, 2002

Crystalfire

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 12:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Feed 2 - Gerry went to the bathroom and washed his hands. Lisa said she couldn't wait to tell everyone.
Marcellas was in the kitchen, washing his hands.

Gerry came into the living room and started talking to Danielle. He said that he always washed his hands when preparing food. She said that she didn't want to make a big deal about it, but then Lori started in and things blew up.

Gerry asked if Danielle and Lori were okay. She said yes, then asked if he heard them yelling in the other room. Said that they were going to play something.

Gerry said "in strictest confidence" that he wanted to be with Danielle in the end. He said he didn't have a problem with people telling him things and asked what exactly happened.

Danielle said that Lori just got riled up and Gerry should see the tape. Gerry said, maybe it would be on next week's show. Danielle said that she would sleep on it and be okay. Danielle went into the kitchen and hugged Marcellas laughing and saying that she can't believe she just became the angry black woman.

Auntiedotcom

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 12:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
whoa! gerry tells danielle that he would like to see her with him at the very end! wait, i've heard this before.

danielle says that delivery is all, that she is sorry how it was delivered.

now they talk about why lori was so upset. danielle says they should play a tape because it was classic.

danielle says to marcellus - why did i do that on teevee? now i'm angry black woman on teevee. marcellus says he would rather be angry black man than angry gay man. they are laughing about how it's gonna look on teevee.

amy says she is glad she was not the butt of whatever it was.

marcellus says his thing on bb is to relive his past, his gay relationships, his straight relationships, his angry black woman household, and she better not yell at him, because he will have a total melt down.

Auntiedotcom

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 12:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
much convo rehashing the event. amy is eating again. (she has been eating all day it seems, everytime there is the slightest upset of any sort, she heads for cherry pie, cheese, cookies.)

jason in hot tub talking about the bb process, as are the rest of them.

(i am out of here, hope someone else can take over.)

Jogging02

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 12:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam1: Tonya, Danielle, Lori reliving the earlier argument, talking about how their facial expressions will be edited for tv, and what their friends and children will think of seeing them on tv, and their actions.

Discussing the argument… Lori: “everyone’s in a state of frenzy because Gerry has power right now and no one wants anything to change… except marcellas and me”.

Now discussing sanitation… Lori- “there are a lot of sanitation issues in this house”, Tonya- “I just don’t want some guy not washing and tossing my salad”.

Conversation peters out as Tonya starts washing pans in the kitchen sink…

Jogging02

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 12:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam3: Marcellas and Amy lying on the hammock, I’m just coming in on this convo…

Discussing an alliance, Marcellas just found out about it tonight. Amy explaining that it’s not that the alliance is against Marcellas per se, but just wanting to make sure it wasn’t any of them.

Amy says “I don’t know what’s up with Josh’s girlfriend, if she keeps him after this show, she’s on crack.”

Amy has prayed about her strategy and it’s clear to her what she needs to do (but doesn’t say what it is). She says she does not want the deck stacked against Marcellas, but Josh is pushing it that way. She votes her heart, can’t be such a cut throat competitor.

Marcellas now saying someone (Josh or Gerry?) was pretending to ally with M, but then turned out to be saving himself (probably Josh).

Marcellas talking about exposing Josh coming to him about an alliance. Marcellas thinks because he was negative about Josh’s proposal at first, he was targeted for nomination first round.

Amy wants Lori out this week, hates her. Amy doesn’t care if she leaves after week three, but needs to stay that long so she can pay her car insurance? <actually, I think it’s so she can avoid paying the august monthly bill or something…>

M (laughing): “you sure you ain’t black?”, A: “I’m from Memphis, it’s the same thing.”

A: “I’ve been here one week and I’m bored as h*ll”.

Tooty

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 12:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Marcellas talking to Danielle saying what a day. Talking about emotions and crying. Marcellas says thats half the battle right there. He is trying not to be Bunky. Danielle says they asked about her babies in the diary room and she wanted to cry. Marcellas tells her thats what they want. Tonya tells Danielle that everything will be wonderful when she gets out of the house.
Talk about the Gerry again. Tonya says she doesnt want to be eating food when some man has his hands on his penis and goes making salad. Its a sanitary issue. Lori talks about how they will look on t.v. She says they are not going to change their expressions. Tonya says, what are your kids going to say? Lori says, my kids dont see me in that element with them. I cycle like that with my peers. Tonya says, right. Lori says the adult issues she feels in her soul. A few minutes later Lori says, i think everybody is in a little bit of a frenzy cuz Gerry has some power right now. Then back to the sanitary issue again. Tonya says again that she doesnt want some guy stirring her salad if he doesnt wash. She says her stomach was hurting for 2 hours afterwards. ( after dinner?) after eating that fried shit.

Jogging02

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 01:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam3: Gerry joins Amy and Marcellas on the hammock. Convo turns to the earlier argument in the kitchen. Amy glad she missed most of it. Gerry comments that Lori didn’t make any friends. Marcellas says if you give people long enough, they’ll self destruct, then comments that Jason (Josh?) is now self destructing. <ed: sorry, convo going fast>

They laugh that his pictures with his girlfriend is probably really his sister or cousin as a front.

Marcellas complaining that Lori has to throw herself on a sword to save him. They all say it’s bulls**t that Josh was so worried/shaking during nom’s.

Marcellas marveling at Josh’s game playing, playing M against Danielle, and Danielle against M.

All three ponder who Lisa would choose to take the place of Marcellas if Gerry “vetos” Marcellas and takes him out of this week’s nominations.

Gerry says Josh made some disparaging remarks about his lap swimming and lack of hair. Amy says Josh threatened her that if she votes the wrong way, she’ll be next.

Marcellas again thinks they should have a group meeting and bring Josh’s backstabbing out in the open as a group and try to get him out.

Gerry says he needs to talk to Lisa before deciding what to do with his veto vote.

Marcellas thinks if he gets vetoed, Lori will get evicted no matter who else takes Marcellas’ place. Amy thinks if Josh gets the nomination, he’ll get evicted, enough people hate him.

Amy doesn’t trust Josh as far as she can throw him.

Marcellas still wants to confront Josh. Gerry and Amy dissuade him. Want to talk to Lisa, make sure there’s a plan for what happens next.

Jogging02

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 01:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam3: Marcellas, Amy, Gerry continuing conversation on hammock…

M: “an alliance was formed and then another clique alliance was formed- the beautiful people that think this is an episode of baywatch. They pushed the original alliance out.”

G to Amy: “you look like you’re set up to be next”. Amy agrees.

Marcellas calls Josh the antichrist, and complains that Josh used Marcellas’ clippers to clip his body hair.

Josh walks over, Marcellas snidely says “we’re having a private conversation can you go over by the pool?”. Josh says something about his pants/legs then wanders off.

All three discuss that Josh is sweating because they’re talking without him being there. Gerry thinks Josh will grill him later.

Amy and Gerry both comment that Jason is a moral man, they like him, he’s a good person.

Gerry says Josh is still playing last year’s game, but it won’t work this year.

Amy says she’d hate to see the three of them or Jason get voted off because they’re the “only decent people in the house”.

All three discuss how they’re in the house for exposure. Amy says she’s not there for Playboy like some others. Marcellas says he’s there as a last ditch effort to get back an ex boyfriend who’s now dating someone from real world <ed: can’t tell if he’s serious or parodying another houseguest, there’s a lot of laughter>.

Jogging02

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 01:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam3: Amy and Gerry saying they didn’t know any better when first allying with Josh the first day while Marcellas was still in the tree.

Danielle walks up and gets in the hammock as marcellas stands up but stays by the hammock.

Danielle: “I don’t want to be angry black woman on tv!”, Gerry: “I know what you mean, I don’t want to be the old guy who doesn’t wash his hands!”. Laughter.

Gerry says there’s one real cancer in the house they have to get rid of, Danielle asks who, Marcellas says Josh. Amy retells the story of Josh threatening her that she’s next.

Danielle says she knows a lot, just from observing. Marcellas says please fill him in if she observes stuff about him.

Danielle and Amy discuss tomorrow’s housework, washing windows. Danielle says people have been just getting up and doing stuff, and Amy needs to start chipping in. Also, Amy needs to get up early, stop being the last one out of bed. Amy’s taking it well, saying she needs to hear these things, she doesn’t know.

Discussion turns to veto votes. Marcellas worried at first that Danielle had gotten it, and he had been told by Josh that Danielle was upset that Marcellas had taken the very first food/nest challenge too seriously. Danielle denying any bad feelings.

Jogging02

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 01:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam3: Gerry saying they may not need strategy. That BB is creating enough randomness in the game that they’ll get to where they need to be regardless of scheming.

Gerry talks about crying earlier during a deep conversation earlier about his helping/teaching special kids. Danielle says she cried earlier in the diary room when talking about her children.

Danielle cautioning Marcellas against his confront-Josh plan, saying you “can’t let them know you know” over and over. Once they know you know, they’ll change their plans.

Danielle wanders off, leaving Gerry, Marcellas, and Amy in the hammock. Gerry says he does need to talk to some people, but just not right now.

Gerry saying someone filled him in on Lori, saying she was a queen b**ch that was going to play everyone in the house and they wouldn’t know what hit them. Amy says she doesn’t seem that way at all.

Camera switches to hot tub where Roddy, Lori, Danielle, and Jason are soaking their feet. Lori is saying nice things about the way Gerry handled the earlier kitchen confrontation.

Jogging02

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 01:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam3: the hot tub crowd are discussing the cold shower, how it takes their breath away it’s so cold. Jason says sometimes he takes lukewarm showers on purpose to conserve hot water. Going to check other cams…

Cam1: Tonya, Josh, Lisa, Chiara chatting indoors. Tonya says they’re not hanging with Roddy enough. Josh says the story about Roddy’s father, a stock broker, and black Monday, says so much about Roddy himself. I guess one day Roddy’s father put some of the family money in the market, and lost a lot of it (black Monday, 1987), but took it well. Told the family that they would just keep going, that the market wouldn’t change if they stayed up all night feeling badly about it.

Danielle and Lori walking through the kitchen…

Jason walks into kitchen, complaining of getting so many bug bites. Conversation slows, some chatter about getting chocolate from freezer, and who BB will allow into the storage room…

Tooty

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 01:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Gerry and Amy out on hammock. Marcellas is there too. Marcellas says, i dont want to be the gay black man. Amy says, i dont want to be the lazy girl who dont do shit. Gerry says there is 1 real cancer in this household and we have to get rid of it. Amy asks who? Marcellas says, Josh? Gerry says yep, i dont find him funny at all. I put up with that crap every day with 13 year old boys. Danielle is at the hammock now. She says Amy is going to do the inside windows. Danielle tells Amy, you need to start getting up and doing stuff. You need to get out of bed. Gerry laughs and says, " Oh God, help us all, an angry black woman."

Aim499

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 01:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Josh is going on and on saying that he just had his first epiphany of his life. He's not giving many details but he says that he's very tranquil, and has figured something out that answers a lot of his problems in his life. He says it has nothing to do with the game, and the Roddy helped him figure this out. Tonya seems like she doesn't believe him (me either).

Jogging02

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 01:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam1: Josh, Lisa, Chiara, Gerry, Danielle in kitchen. Too many people for much strategy conversation I think, talk is of cars and pets and ice cream. Checking other cams real quick…

Cam2: also in kitchen. Gerry scooping ice cream for all, Roddy giving Danielle a quick back rub.

Cam3: Amy, Marcellas, Lori out by hammock. Lori saying not enough “cycle down” time, that’s why she lost it. They can all find things to nit pick about if they try. Lori glad she said something though, she had a valid reason, and she loves Danielle for helping her bring the subject up.

Lori talks of her friends she’s had since she’s eight, and they have fights but are still friends. That’s how it is in the house also. They’re getting to know each other better now, and fights happen.

Marcellas says it’s been like a giant interview up to now, but now they’re starting to find out what’s really going on, who’s getting played.

Amy won’t compromise herself, she doesn’t care enough to do things that she’ll be embarrassed by later. She’s doing the show just as a “summer thing, to meet people”. She just doesn’t care about the money, and won’t sacrifice her values or sell her soul for it…

Lori talks of her ending marriage, and how there’s forgiveness even in the breakup, and they have “ups and downs, but I have the freedom to be me. And my girlfriends are still there. I know what friendship means, it means more than half a million dollars”.

<hey posters- can we split up the feeds between us? I'll stay on 3 if you want.>

Jogging02

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 01:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam3: Amy has friends everywhere, and doesn’t want to come back on the show for the final vote feeling guilty. She wants everyone to be friends later on.

Marcellas wants to recheck the rules to see what he gets if anything if he voluntarily walks out early. They all joke about how they get nothing, not even a plane ride home. Laughter about Marcellas calling his mom to come get him if he leaves early.

They talk about grabbing their things if they were leaving early, and Amy says she wouldn’t want the picture of herself in the house, it’s awful. They joke about the cheap frames the pictures are in also.

Lori brings convo back to the earlier kitchen confrontation with Gerry. Saying her hometown will be saying “that’s our girl!! That’s our lori!!”. She lives in her hometown, they all know her and how she is. She has to be herself. She is not ashamed at all.

Marcellas walks off, Gerry joins the hammock.

Aim499

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 01:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
feed 2- Josh talking to Eric..Josh said that Marcellas hates him. Josh talks about the group of 6. Can't make out what Josh is saying. Lisa wants to join the discussion, and Josh tells her they are just talking about his "epiphany".

Eric, Josh, Lisa, Tonya talking about not being allowed to sleep on the couch overnight.

Lisa jokes that she will be crazy when she leaves the house, and Eric says that it's possible for it to really happen. He says that he's really having fun though, and people take it too seriously and drive themselves crazy.

More talk about Gerry not washing his hands. Eric says he never washes his hands at home, but he does it here. Lisa continues to tell Eric the same stories about Gerry and not washing his hands.

(I'm going to bed)

Jogging02

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 01:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam3: Lori talks about interviews- she told them her strategy would be to mesh the first week, that she can be intimidating to men and women. People she works with tell her this. Her strategy would be to chill and mesh, but she couldn’t do it for even a week, because it’s who she is. “I couldn’t stand myself!”.

Amy keeps reminding people to get her up in the morning with everyone else, she’s going to get up early and wash windows. Seems like she’s fishing for someone to tell her she doesn’t need to wash the windows (Danielle had told her to do it).

Gerry and Lori joke about trying to cook in a kitchen with so many people in there making decisions.

Gerry and Amy wish Jason hadn’t given up his bed, and comment on how he hasn’t gotten it back. They all agree Jason’s such a nice guy. It’s chilly, so all three are moving inside…

Jogging02

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 02:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam3: Switches indoors to toothbrushing closeup on Gerry. Too many voices at once, can’t make out a conversation. Switching cams…

Someone is talking to Marcellas about being judged so much that they eventually become the person everyone expects them to be. Audio switches abruptly to Roddy and Danielle playing cards, general chatter about winning/losing games.

Now Roddy and Danielle are talking about engagement rings. Roddy hates how women go too crazy over the karat size, etc. Bragging to their girlfriends and such. Danielle says she’s not into big weddings and to-do’s either… she got married in Vegas. Roddy says instead of spending so much money on one day, why not save it and spend it on a nice vacation every year for five years, so much more meaningful. <ed: perhaps, but why just five?>

Danielle just won the third game and Roddy leaves. Danielle gloats, “who’s your mama?!?! Who’s your mama!?” Now general chit chat with Marcellas and Lori about shoes and toiletries as they brush teeth/hair… switching cams and posting…

Jogging02

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 02:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam3: Danielle and Marcellas talking about not wanting to reveal too much about themselves. Can’t hear well over the faucet noise.

Cam1: Eric lying on couch, Lisa wants to know if she’ll get her bed back when HOH is over. Josh sitting on couch with Tonya nearby. Josh and Eric starting a card game. Josh teaching Eric a new game with the cards laid out in a pyramid shape.

Camera switches to outdoor hammock shot, it’s Roddy and Chiara… they joke about going home, people asking them if they’re dating. R: “sure we’re dating, and for the last 90 days we lived in the same house and saw each other every waking moment!”. Laughter.

Chiara tells Roddy how two years ago she wanted a perfect engagement ring, two carat tiffany band, etc. but then when her friend Ashley graduated… FOTH…

Bettyblue

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 02:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
(good job Jog, u need a break?)
Feed 1: FOTH
Feed 2: FOTH
Feed 3: FOTH
Feed 4: Oh, you get the idea...(Gotta love the music though)

Tooty

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 02:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Gerry in the bedroom talking to Amy. Gerry says, I praise the people who set this game up. Amy says, i wish so bad that Lori and Marcellas werent on the block. Gerry talking about Lisa. Says she made a mistake thinking Josh is Will from last year. Saying he will play her. Amy says Josh is playing everybody else in the house. then foth

Jogging02

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 02:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
all cameras FOTH for roughly five minutes.

Cam1: Roddy and Chiara on hammock. Roddy saying how he hates Lori constantly talking about nominations, he says she doesn’t realize it makes everyone uncomfortable.

Roddy says Lori must be really stressed in real life to be so upset over handwashing. He can’t blame anyone for what they do in the house, because it’s not real. It seems real to them, but it’s not real.

Talk turns to the diary room, do they look straight at the camera or not. Roddy says the diary room knows he has no great sound bites for them, he doesn’t want marcellas to leave, he knows Lori was just nutty because the house is getting to her.

Roddy says it’s weird how they go flirt and snuggle with other people in the house, but there’s not the jealousy as there would be out in the real world. He says he doesn’t mind when Chiara flirts with Jason, and jokes that Chiara wouldn’t think twice if she got up in the night and someone else took her spot in the bed next to Roddy. In the real world, it would be strange, but in the house it seems more normal.

Both tease each other about being flirts. Chiara asks Roddy if he thinks she’s playing him. He says yes, she doesn’t believe him. He says don’t ask then if you don’t want to know.

<I'll be logging off in about 15 minutes...>

Jogging02

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 02:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam1: Roddy talking about eating tons of pizza at a wake. Now he talks about wanting to go “everywhere. Not just because we’re stuck here, but because I like to go everywhere.”

Chiara now talks about how her ex boyfriends are not her type. Roddy points out the obvious that if they were her type, she’d probably still be dating them. Chiara argues that she’s changed since dating them. Pause…

Chiara asks what Roddy thinks about Lisa, he says he doesn’t. She asks what he thinks of Jason, Roddy says Chiara’s “bringing him along slowly”. They both agree that Jason’s a “great guy”.

Josh comes up to the hammock. Says “barnard” is a loser. (I believe this is Marcellas’ nickname). Josh leaves to make some decaf at Roddy’s suggestion.

Chiara asks about Roddy’s dad (he’s 65) and three brothers (missed their ages). C: “when did your dad become mayor?”, R: “it’s not a full time job, the town has about 150,000 people”.

Roddy has a lot of nieces and nephews, jokes about going to the maternity ward on every day off. Laughter. FOTH.

<I’d love to sign off now… bettyblue are you taking over? thanks!>

Bettyblue

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 02:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Feed 1: Roddy and Chiara in hammock outside together. Talking about how in here their isnt an once of jealousy between them (the 6) and how there would be outside. Roddy says "it;s like, youre next take a number, I'm done" They both giggle.

They ask each other if they think they flirt and if they are playing each other. More laughs.

Roddy say that isnt there supposed to be the best pizza place in America in Hartford, Conn. (They were talking about Eric)
Chiria cant think of it, Roddy says he really wants a pizza right now ask Chiria her favorite She says just chese. Roddy says best in NY "Sicilian Gardens," square pizza, long wait, Roddy says if you havent figured it out by now from his last name he is Italian.
Chira says New York seems a million miles away right now. Roddy says the guy in the parking lot at cbs is gong home right now and he is getting paid to be on tv.
They are really having a good time, laughing, joking.
They talk about Jason, oddy says he is bringing him along slowly, they laugh then say and then the will vote him out.
Josh comes out and ask jokingly if they are talking about him. Roddy says to Josh to make decaf coffee (?)
Chiria asks Roddy questions about his parents, how old they were when they had him, he says about 37.
Something about his siblings and something about they are close in age (I think thats what he said, or his bro) and he jokes and says "I didnt think they had conjugal visits in the maternity ward." He starts to talk about his sister-in-law and then FOTH
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Whit4you

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 02:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
(Ed Note - I'm not 100% sure he's talking to Ruddy but I think he is)

Josh - Of the 6 people, I thought I could trust Gerry the most, turns out that was a horrible horrible assumption

Ruddy is saying that this was a f' up.

Josh - it feels so different now - and he has no idea how lucky he is (Gerry?)

Ruddy - your allowed to eliminate one person - he's not a bad dude - not at all

Josh - I dont like it when I tell him something in confidence - and he turns around and tells someone else.

Ruddy - we can have neutral votes - I have no deal with Tonya.

FOTH

(Ed: these two seem to be in or acting to one another as if they are in a very tight alliance with each other)