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Mygetaway

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 08:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is the feed picture bigger if you have a 200 connection?

Thanks BTW for the links Draheid!!

Mygetaway

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 08:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OK, to clarify my post above, I tried to make an example. (I hope this doesn't come out too big.)
My player is set at 100%.
I have a 56K connection.

Is the player/picture bigger with the broaderband connections? Mine is to the left, Draheid's player from above is on the right. I'm assuming it is also at 100%.

I've also noticed that on the regular feeds with the frames, some people's pictures go all the way out to the corners. (Little white sideways triangles) Mine don't do that. Is that the difference between the 2 speeds again?

Thanks for any help..


test

Draheid

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 10:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Mygetaway: It appears that you have the 'outside' of the window out of proportion. You can resize the window and the streams will automatically resize themselves into the widest or tallest possible image within the window, yet without distorting the images themselves.

Here's the two speeds, both over a cablemodem to compare:

56K
56k

200K
200k


Note: The audio is much much clear on 200k, of course. Both of these are with the window at 100% ... my desktop is set to 1280x960 @ 32bit Colors
I hope this helps!

Adamblast

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
A slight addtion to the URLs Draheid has listed above: adding the prefix "pnm://" will let you use these addresses in the various utilities like BBLIVE and BBRELOADER...

I'm using BBLIVE now because I think it's the most transparent/unobtrusive of the various interfaces. I end up with a simple window box around the picture instead of the whole "REAL" interface, and I can switch between the cameras just by using the F-keys...

pnm://start.real.com/rd?pid=bb3_live&url=cam1_200.rm
pnm://start.real.com/rd?pid=bb3_live&url=cam2_200.rm
pnm://start.real.com/rd?pid=bb3_live&url=cam3_200.rm
pnm://start.real.com/rd?pid=bb3_live&url=cam4_200.rm
pnm://start.real.com/rd?pid=bb3_live&url=quad_200.rm

AND

pnm://start.real.com/rd?pid=bb3_live&url=cam1_80.rm
pnm://start.real.com/rd?pid=bb3_live&url=cam2_80.rm
pnm://start.real.com/rd?pid=bb3_live&url=cam3_80.rm
pnm://start.real.com/rd?pid=bb3_live&url=cam4_80.rm
pnm://start.real.com/rd?pid=bb3_live&url=quad_80.rm

Adamblast

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here's a picture using BBLive with the Quad 200...

Picture

Jarryjayo

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 05:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Draheid thanks for posting those links

you just made my life a bit easyer. I was using the url sniffer and it was a pain in the ass to use as everytime the feed would quit you would have to reload the url with the sniffer program this is 10 times better and easyer

Patwnash

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 09:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
hey i get the message, in order to see bb3 live you must subscribe. what do you think I'm doing wrong. I've used real player and bb2 reloader and bblive, using the above addressess. help.

Draheid

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 06:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Patwnash: I believe, in order to use one of the other programs, you must first establish your account using RealOne (Or RP8, I suppose) and make sure, when you connect with these, that you have 'Cookies' enabled. That way, Real can put the login information into your 'Cookies' and next time you use one of the other players, it will be able to verify your subscription.

JMO - FWIW

Flyonthwall

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 02:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for the note to my folder Draheid!
I did what you suggested as above, I have a question though...
Where did the channel buttons go?
I liked having them to switch to different cam's.
So do I now just go thru the File Open drop down list to get that feed?

I know I can click on the quad and go from each screen. Just wondering!

Thanks again for your kind words and help!
FLy

__Tera

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 02:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Fly- this is what the upper corner of my desktop looks like. I created 5 shortcuts (one for each cam) under my RealOne player.

desktop

Draheid

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 05:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
FLy: What I suggest is that, once you've added each of these five links to your 'Favorites', go to the 'Manage Favorites' option. In the Favorites folder, drag each of the links onto your toolbar. Once they are on the toolbar, simply click on the one you want. I'd suggest you put them in an order that you can remember, 1, 2, 3, 4, Quad ... or whatever you wan simply because the icons look the same and there's no title on the toolbar...if you don't have a toolbar, look just above this message for ___Tera's suggestion. Either way should work for you.

I personally prefer to NOT have the extra screen space taken by the borders & buttons. Also, I don't know of any links that give you the buttons yet don't have timeouts.

Enjoy! :)

Flyonthwall

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 06:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Draheid, Sorry I took so long to let you know...it was nap time! LOL....
But I got the icons on the desktop just fine thanks to your directions.

This is great and I'm glad to know this little trick!
Thanks tons!
Fly

Krossd

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 06:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Can some one tell me what the start timer is for?
(Hopefully so you won't time out?)

Thanks :-)

Flyonthwall

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 08:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Krossd,
If you use the tip above by Draheid you won't have a time out to worry about.
So the time out settings won't matter to my knowledge.

If you don't use the links above, you can set that at around 120 min so it runs longer before it does time out.

Not sure if I answered your question, hope that is what you ment.
Let us know!
FLy

Sushigirl

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 03:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Draheid, You are an ! I have been using the links you posted. It is so awesome to not have the time outs every 30 minutes. Thank you so much for sharing and taking the time to post the info. You're the best!

Krossd

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Flyonthwall (& Draheid), I will give it a try. I thought that might be what it was... but I am having trouble with the feeds timing out and it could (also) be from my using my laptop with wireless Intel AnyPoint. My desktop connection works just fine on the feeds, not many, if any disconnections... but for some reason the laptop keeps disconnecting (timing out the feeds) every few minutes - making it so I can't do Live Feeds.

I don't know what alterations I could try in regards to my AnyPoint software checking my server computer (?) which is what I think may knock me off, or it could be Real Player checking something on desktop and I am not there to accept this(?). I use Zone Alarm too, but for this I allowed any Real Player 'stuff' to have permission, and have turned Zone Alarm off on laptop.).

I should add that every once in a while I get a good length of time without getting dumped but I'd say that is about 2 in 10 times/trys

So, know you know how addicted I am to BB 'cause I put up with this. (Summer is too short to be downstairs on desktop when I can be on deck with laptop. Still, it is aggravating.

I posted in the quick answer thread that I could be a LF poster if I could resolve this. If anyone knows of a glitch between Intel's AnyPoint and Real PlayerOne on cable access, send it on.

Thanks for replying :-)

Sushigirl

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Krossd, I had wireless on my laptop. I had a terrible time with the feeds. I switched out my pc card and went back to the original hookup. It works great now. I will go back to wireless after Big Brother. Before I switched, I spent hours and hours on the phone with Real and Linksys(wireless) technical support. They tried but they were no help. Hopefully this will save you some time. Good Luck! :)

Patwnash

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 07:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
has CBS stopped all the "free" live access? I can't pull it up with BBLive or with AOL media link anymore

Draheid

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 08:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Patwnash: There were no 'FREE' feeds this year ... there is only '14-day free trial' to subscribe to RealOne SuperPass. Several people are so frustrated that they have cancelled before paying for the feeds. SuperPass is 9.95/month or you can subscribe through cbs.com for 24.95 for the entire BB3 season (what's left of it...)

Hope this helps.

Wolf

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 08:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I've tried entering the posted addresses into RealPlayer, et al, but all I get is a 5 second audio clip saying that the information I have requested is not available, etc.

As an example (and to reiterate what addresses I am using)...

both:
start.real.com/rd?pid=bb3_live&url=cam1_200.rm
and:
pnm://start.real.com/rd?pid=bb3_live&url=cam1_200.rm

are giving me the same thing, as stated above. Yes, I am a subscriber, and it works fine when I connect thru the See.B.S website. I would just rather not have the other crud around it, nor the 30 sec timeouts.

Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? Or how I can remedy this?

Thanks!! :)

--Jeff

Draheid

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 09:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wolf: You don't indicate in your message what OS/Platform/RealPlayer version are you using? Apparently it makes a difference. The posting I put on here that's been archived, My Links for Realplayer, is for the Windows/XP platform using RealONE player and most people I've heard from say they work great.
I read somewhere in here that they don't work on the MAC OSX platform, then someone else said if you put the http:// in front of them, they do work. Since I don't have a MAC to test on, I can only suggest trying that, or look through some of the archives on these threads to see if you get any more information from there.

Hope this helps.

Wolf

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for replying Draheid... I am actually using Windows 2000 right now, and have tried it on WinXP at home. Both computers are using the latest version of RealONE Player. I linked back to your post (that you linked in your message) and tried the addresses, but again I get the same message stating the information I have requested is not available. However, when I link from the See.B.S website, it works fine. :-/

I have tried PNM:// and HTTP:// prefixes as well.

--Jeff

Draheid

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wolf: I went into my my 'Favorites' folder for Real and zipped all 5 of my shortcuts and am attaching them to this message. (I presume you have WinZip, but you should be able to use Windows Explorer on XP as it reads zip files also) I have yet to have any of these links fail to connect to the respective live feeds. I hope this helps. I tested the archive and it works fine here so *crossing-fingers* hopefully it will work for you.

application/x-zip-compressedRPLinksZip
rpshortcuts.zip (4 k)


Please let me know. (Edit: I downloaded from here and unzipped using Win Explorer into a new folder ... they all worked fine, hope you have the same luck!!)

Wolf

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 01:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks again! :) Actually, they didn't work for me... (I haven't tried them at home yet.)

Since they worked for you, I did a bit of investigating. I believe it has to do with some settings on our proxy server at the office. Being the IT Manager, I have full access to this and will take a look tomorrow morning to see if there is a port I have to open first. (Perhaps port 554 for RTSP?) I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks again!

--Jeff

Draheid

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 01:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wolf: Here's some technical info, FYI:
I just watched mine connect (SNMP Trap on my router) and this is the information it shows:

AddressPort
start.real.com80
rx-lvl3-pa18.rbn.com554


And I have a live feed! The second address changes each time I change cameras or reconnect, but it always starts on port 80 to start.real.com.

Hope this helps. Please let us know. BTW: I saw in another thread here that Real has apparently fixed the problem with MAC users connecting.

See this: RealOne and RealPlayer Should Be Working! For more information.

Draheid

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 02:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wolf: Further details ... I'm not sure why I didn't see this the first time, however, once the stream starts 'pouring' in from Real, it comes in via port 6970 from the 2nd address listed above. I believe you can change the UDP port in RealOne to work on most any acceptable UDP port ... when it makes the initial contact on port 80, I would bet that's where the information on where to send the stream is sent ... then the stream starts. I could be way off, but thought the info might be of some use to you.

Again, let me know what you find out.

Thanks.

Wolf

Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 05:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Draheid: Thanks for the info -- it did help by saving me time figuring out the ports myself. :) With a lil tweaking this morning and opening the right ports on the proxy server, everything is working great now from work. Your links worked fine from my home computer, BTW.

--Jeff