If your having problems defraging your system....realone may be at fault
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TV ClubHouse: Archive: USA 2002: All Things Technical for BB 2002 (computer stuff): If your having problems defraging your system....realone may be at fault

Catbowl

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 05:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I had this problem with Norton Antivirus that would do a net detect every 10 minutes and would reset my defrag along with it. Could not complete a defrag. This is how to correct it if your having problems: Open RealOne>Tools in Media Browser>Preferences>Connections>Internet Settings>Check Mark the line that says"Only perform Automatic Services while RealOne Player is in use"
I have no idea why they have this option anyways. Why would someone want automatic services done when the player is not in use? The only thing this does is rewrite instructions to the hard drive and makes defraging a frustrating process. Hope this solves any mystery anybody might be having.

Draheid

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 08:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Catbowl: I presume these problems were mutually exclusive, ie. Your original problem was with Norton Antivirus trying to Auto-Update (or LiveUpdate as Norton calls it) on a 10 minute interval caused you problems and you resolved that. Now, since installing RealONE, when it performs automatic checks for updates, messages, etc., RealONE had begun giving you the same errors.

FWIW - The automatic services RealONE does, as far as I know, are for current messages, events, news, etc. that you might be interested in based on your preference settings. Also, if there any software updates.

Setting it to "Only perform Automatic Services while..." simply means that, whenever you load RealONE, during that session, it will check for these types of information along with updates, etc.

Hopefully, this is the explanation as I can see no correlation between Norton Antivirus and RealONE. If there is a correlation, I would think something far greater is going on than what you have determined.

JMO - FWIW

Catbowl

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The key phrase in that option is "while Real Player is in use" Which means...if it is not in use it will still check for updates if you are on the net or not OR if you have it open or not. Think of it as an automatic ping for information going out wether you need it or not or wether it can process it or not. It can be as simple as rewriting the cookie for date checkup that will slow down your defrag because your hard drive will pick it up as something is writing to it and so will restart your defrag program fresh. Hope this explains it. Its like the Norton program checking to see if your on the net or not. If you are on the net then it will automatically give you updates to the program. But, it will still send out signals even if your not on the net. Those signals are recorded and written down or overwritten on your hard drive. That is why you want to close all your programs when you do a defrag so it goes faster. You can still do one but it will take forever. This is just a suggestion so I hope ya don't get angry at me for it. Sheesh...seems like every time I post nowadays somebody is taking it the wrong way. Am I coming across wrong? *sigh*

Draheid

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Catbowl: What I was confused about is the correlation between RealONE and Norton Antivirus. I completely understand how each works. My question was, did RealONE in any way change the way Norton Antivirus' LiveUpdate worked? Or were you simply using the LiveUpdate as an example of how RealONE worked??

The cookie example is good, I'm sure both programs update either the registry or it's own '.ini' file, the updating of which would cause any defragmentation program to restart due to a disc write.

Catbowl

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was just using it as an example of how each works. They seem to work the same. Thanks for clarifing..golly...am I getting paranoid cuz of BB? LOL
I disabled the net detect a long time ago.
I also clean,scan and defrag on a regular basis.

Draheid

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 02:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Catbowl: Ok, thanks. That's what I thought.

To reiterate: RealONE has an default option to check for updates and information at regular intervals (Perhaps every 10 minutes) which can interfere with defragmenting utilities (such as Windows built-in defragger or Norton SpeedDisk).

This service works similar to the way Norton AntiVirus (and other Norton utilities) do with LiveUpdate.

The way around this is to instruct RealONE to "Only perform Automatic Services while RealOne Player is in use".

Thanks, Catbowl for the headsup on this issue.
Sorry to beat this issue to death, I was concerned that RealONE was doing something it certainly should NOT have been doing!