Dani and Lisa Talk: Part 3 (Friendship)
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Ptomaine

Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 01:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LISA SAYS "PLEASE DO!". DANI TALKS ABOUT HER FRIENDSHIP WITH JASON
I'm pretty sober right now, I had my moment. But you just had a peck and you got that. Even watching the video (Lisa and Dani got to watch the non-POV & HOH challenges), do you know "he's so hot", but you kept saying "O my God! He's so handsome." You don't listen to yourself. I hear things. (L: ah haha ha giggles) I listen! And you can't tell me by looking at that one (Jason) you had the utmost respect for him, more than anything.

L: Of course!

D: Don't think I won't be whispering in his ears: That's a good woman right there. Don't you be stupid, and let that one go! I don't care what you see (Eric) hanging around her. That's a good woman.

L: Please do!

D: Oh! You don't have to ask me! 'Cause I already have this set up! I plan on seeing things, I be invited to certain things...'cause I see things. Boy! I saw it in this room. I saw the way he talk [sic] to you. I saw how he ignored the Southern Belle (Amy) and he was so attracted to you. I saw it!

Regardless of game, the way he looked at you... my God! Any woman would be honored to have a man look at her that way. Talking about you beautiful in the morning! Shooot! (Lisa silently laugh, like a blush) Do-a-huh-what-now? (Lisa still laughing silently).

Cry when he's doing the Q&A.

L: He cried with YOU!

D: He cried with me probably because Lisa, you got to understand...

L: And he cried with me, because it was a continuation of you.

D: But Lisa, the cry he had for me was because he knew that I supported him more than anything. I was his true friend. People can say what they want: she just likes that boy! But, he was my friend. And I love him for being my friend, for trusting in me... 'cause I felt, in the beginning of this game, I had no one to believe in me. No one came to me with alliance. People could have respected me, and you could respected me from afar, but he respected me right from the get go (L: um hmm). And he trusted me and believed in me, and that means more than anything, than anyone can ever explain, because he's my friend, and he's my true friend.

And in the diary room, I said it over again, I said we have a bond and we are friends, and I love the kid. And I will try my best to make sure he continues in this game. All the decisions I made in this game, was, because I thought a lot of people were against him, so therefore, I made decisions accordingly, because I said you do not go against him, more than anything. You understand what I'm saying?

Almost to the point that he was ahead of my family in some situations, you know what I mean? (L: uh huh) And he's my friend. And if he would watch that tape, of all the situations, he knew that I was on his side, and I think that meant a lot to him, more than anything. Because, I love you Lisa, I love you with all my heart, but I always felt that I let him down by letting go of that key, you know what I mean? I know you weren't going anywhere, but I could've easily held on and we could have made it something serious, do you know what I mean? (L: Yeah) And he's my friend, and I said that in the diary room, after I let go of the key, because for a moment, I felt perplexed. I said he's my friend, because, out of anyone in this game, he stuck by me on day 2 or day 3. No one else did. He believed in me, he trusted me. Everyone can say oh she's a ?? game player, she's ?? to be her friend, whatever, and that's fine ... I'll take it. But he believed in me, without me promising him the world, and he knew it. If he saw the diary room, he knew what I felt, and that's why he (Dani actually means herself here) was a little perplexed, because even as I let go of the key ... I was so hurt that I let him down, more than anything. 'Cause he was my friend. Without any question or anything, I didn't have to ask him to be my friend or anything I believed in him, he was my friend. And that... umm.. is more than anything. And my husband may say what the hell is going on, but he, Jason, was my friend. Game, whatever, he was my friend, you know what I mean?

I hurt so hard that we couldn't talk and socialize with one another because we try to keep everything a secret. Because, HE was my friend. I love talking to Jason. I love talking to him about his family, I love hearing stories about my family. And we laughed, we shared with just brief moments, because a lot of time we had to act like we didn't know each other because of the game. But, he was my friend, and I love you with all my heart Lisa, but I will always, no matter what happens in this game, felt like I let my friend down. Because I asked him: "Would you have done the same?" He told me he doesn't know. And that told me, that tell me, that told me that he wouldn't have let go because of me. Because he's done...

L: But he doesn't have a family to support.

D: I know. And when a guy looks at you in the eye and say "Good for you! That's good for your family." What can you say to that? What can you say to that?

When he didn't nominate Roddy and said I will be a man of honor, what do you say to that?

L: Thank you for being a good man.

D: Thank you for being a good man, and thank you, utmost of anything, for being my friend. 'Cause he was my friend. Honestly. He was my friend. And he took the time to know me, other people could've said, like you said... you knew how I played the game... but Jason, took that chance with me, he could have easily aligned himself with Chiara or Roddy during this game, but he chose not to. He aligned himself with me: a black woman from the north, who was a teenage mother, he chose to do that. Because he knew... he was just a good man. And I love him more than anything. He is my friend in this game. And after this game is over...

L: He's going to be so happy to hear that stuff

D: He is, He's my friend and I said that in every diary room. I said He's My Friend. We are loyal to each other because of that. We have a friendship stronger than any of the people in this house. People aligned themselves with people, but Jason was my friend (Dani begins to cry). They can say what they want. Marcellus, I loved dearly, but Jason, I completely trusted Jason. I never doubted one second with any game situation what Jason was going to do. Because he was my friend. And when you look at a guy like that, a man, and you look and him and go : You know what Jason? I wouldn't have made it this far without you. (Dani crying now) And he looks at me and goes : You know what Dani? I wouldn't have made it this far without you. That's a friend. People can't understand that ... (Dani sobbing)

L: Who's not going to understand that?

D: I don't know... but he was my friend.

L: I think everyone's going to respect that. You took care of the baby.

D: And Tonya be citing (? "saying" perhaps) : What would you have done, what would you regretted. And I said If I could just held on to that key for him (Dani still crying). But my family means more than anything in this game, unfortunately.

L: There was nothing wrong with that answer.

D: I know.

L: Who would have answered differently?

D: I don't know, probably a lot of people would've.

L: No. They wouldn't've.

D: Because Jason was my friend and I told him: Thank you for believing in me in day 2, when there was the power of 6, the cartel. Jason was the one that stuck by me, no matter what I decided, he stuck by me. And you know what? He's my friend.

And that's why in the goodbye speeches he was so torn up by it, because we never had to say goodbye to one another (The day before eviction, Jason had to give his DR goodbyes. When Jason exited he headed toward the LRD because he was emotional, instead of facing the girls). 'Cause I said, Jason, if you walk out of this door, I don't know what I'm going to do. Because he was my friend (Dani still crying). I totally believed in him. He was my friend.

And when Eric asked me that question about ethic. I said 1 because I lied so much, but I should have given myself a higher score because I believe I stuck by Jason more than anyone else.

FOTH

... All the time in this game that he chose to stuck [sic] by me. And you know what? If it wasn't for him, I don't know how far I would have gotten. And he said in his goodbye speech: thank you because I don't know what I would have done without you, and that meant a lot to me. 'Cause he was my friend.

L: Danielle, he "IS" your friend, not "was" your friend. (Dani sobbing) Hey, you're going to see him in a couple of hours.

D: I know. I know.

When I came into this house (after the HOH part 1) I told him I'm so sorry, but I did what I had to do (Here Dani is talking about making a deal with Lisa) (Dani sobbing still). And he's like: that's OK. Good God! What kind of friend is that? That tells you that it's OK ... said I'm so sorry.

L: What are you sorry for Danielle?

D: I felt like I betrayed him, but I said I did it for my family.

L: Danielle, can I ask you something?

D: Yeah? (Sobbing)

L: Would you have rather betrayed Jason or your family?

D: I'd betray Jason in a heartbeat, 'cause my family comes first.

L: OK

D: And you know what made it so hard for me? He said good for you (L: Right!) ... you guaranteed yourself $50,000.

L: You didn't betray Jason, Danielle. Securing yourself is not betraying one person over another.

D: I come into the diary room, and they said that I've never seen you like this, I said I'm upset because he's my friend. I'm ... should've held on to that key, not that it would've mattered anyway... (sobbing still)

L: I'm sorry.

D: But my #1 priority is my family, unfortunately.

L: Danielle, I'm really, truly sorry.

D: I know. (silence) I love you Lisa, I know you may think I've been so mean to you, but I do love you, but he was my friend. (crying) People may say what they want, but I know that he was my friend.

L: He is your friend Danielle. (Correcting Dani on her use of "was" to "is") OK?

D: uh huh.

L: Good night.

D: Good night.

L: And he loves you and he wouldn't ?? (expect?) anything different, if he had a family to support.

D: Yeah.

They say I'm a cold blooded woman, but I'm not.

L: How are you cold blooded?

D: I don't know.

L: Danielle, they do not figure you as cold blooded.

D: I don't know, but Jason was my friend.

L: He IS, don't say WAS, HE IS.

D: They can see the way I played this game, that he was my friend.

And I told him in my goodbye: please forgive me, I'm so sorry for letting go of that key. (sobbing)

L: Danielle, (D: yeah) This is a game.

D: I know.

L: I think 3 months worth of friendship is a lot more important than letting go of a key.

D: Right. I know.

L: Say, you know, honestly, same as the doctor said to me : Lisa,

FOTH

D: ... know things. He's (Jason) hot tempered. Don't get me wrong, because you're going to have your hands full with that one.

L: Honey, you haven't seen match ?? (upper?) yet.

D: Yeah, but boy I've seen stubbornness in him, and when I look at that one, I'm like oooh he's just like his Daddy. He can say what he wants, but, I know what I see.

Lisa yawns.

D: With that one (Jason), when you argue, you got to be willing to fight, and keep fighting with that one, 'til he's willing to rest.

Don't put the wall up, I say let the wall stay down and let it go.

L: (laughs) 'Cause you like to see the drama.

D: No, not the drama... after what we experience as um... what happened out there (living room) one night on the couch. Boy I was so pissed, I wanted to punch him in his nose, I was so pissed.

L: Oh, that's a great friend! (laughs) ooo Danielle!

D: I was pissed off! I'm like OK, I punch you in your nose I made your nose bleed, here's some tissues, I'm sorry. You know, one of those thing.

He pissed me off so much, but he was the bigger man, 'cause he came in and he apologized he say : please... please forgive me and he gave me a hug, 'cause he knew I was pissed, boy. And the reason why I didn't go off like I wanted to in that situation, because I knew, I could have ripped him to shreds, I could've went off. But I had to take a beat and go to my happy place, and uh, I knew I would've said some things that were pretty hurtful and I didn't want to go there. And the fact that I took the time... take a cleansing breath... and the fact (laughs) that he came in, even when we were arguing at that moment about the Survivor thing, he said I'm sorry duh duh duh... I'm like: you're full of crap! 'cause you're really not sorry. You're just saying that to prove your point more. After it was said and done, I went to bed because I was so hurt. I don't think it was so much being angry, it was insulting my pride, I was hurt that he would say such a thing to me. That um... he came in and said to me : please forgive me, he said I'm so sorry I know I shouldn't have done that...

L: You know when he said please forgive me, he means it.

D: Yes, exactly. So anyone that's in a relationship with him, when he says please forgive me that means he's really, really, really sorry. (Lisa laughs) He's so sorry about it!

And I want to punch his nose, ooo, I wanted to punch him in the nose, but I couldn't because he was my friend.

L: Danielle, that's so beautiful!

D: I know, 'cause he was my friend.

And I told him that all the time: Jason, thank you for being my friend. Teary eyed he said thank you for being my friend, we both cried. And then we all can't act like we're talking to each other... (Dani laughs)

L: Oh God! Don't you think the secret was out by then?

D: It was like earlier on.

L: That was last week!

D: No, it was more, it was like really in day... week 3 Lisa.

L: Not the Survivor talk!

D: Oh, no, no, no, but 4 and 5, it was hard for us to stay away from each other because we were friends. But we couldn't act like you know ... couldn't let Roddy or Chiara or Eric or Gerry to know about our relationship. I mean Marcellus knew, but, I ... it was very difficult... I would say I'm going to tell this to you (Jason) and I want you to walk away, and he would walk away ... we kept distance with one another (L: awe)

Jason was my friend.

L: That will be great for you to hug him tomorrow!

D: Yeah...

Mags3

Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 02:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Not to seem ignorant, but whats with all these *old* LF threads? I don't get it.

Justshirley

Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 02:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ditto. I came in here thinking it was some new interview or something.

Cameramanbob

Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 02:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My understanding is that this is part 3 of Ptomaine's 5-part series: it would seem to be a more thorough transcript of a conversation which was not captured previously with all of it's nuances intact. The value to the reader has not been stated yet (as far as I know). Ptomaine does mention that other more appropriate locations for this thread seem to be closed.

Loralyceallen

Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 02:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, Lisa sure makes Eric look like some kind of huge idiot. Imagine waiting around for a girl and having to read and watch as she begs Danielle to hook her up with another guy... and not a specific guy, but whichever one Danielle thinks would be good for her. Imagine how he felt knowing that Danielle is trying to set his girl up with a guy younger and waaaaaaaaaaay more immature than her. Imagine how he felt knowing she wanted it and was not even thinking how he would feel having the world hear and see her make a fool of him. rofl Poor dumb Eric. What a wuss. I really feel for the guy.

Ptomaine

Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 02:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
These posts are just suppose to ease the BB3 withdrawal. Just some food for thought. Read it as entertainment.

Nothing to get worked up about.

Loralyceallen

Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 03:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have to thank you Ptomaine. I agree that it is food for thought, and it does help ease the loss of our favorite past time... hehe Thanks so much for sharing. It's also great fodder for gossip... hehehehe and you know how much fun that can be.

Ptomaine

Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 03:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'll throw the question out there, and leave it to you gals to gossip :)

Have fun!

Itsallgood

Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 03:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It would be nice if you would put OLD NEWS. LOL I was thinkin this was NEW NEWS! :-(

Been there done that! :-)

After

Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 03:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the worse part is that Eric doesn't even know about this.

Ptomaine

Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 03:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Itsallgood,

I didn't realize this was news at all. And is old news news? :)

Myriads

Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 05:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd add a disclaimer at the top of the posts that large amounts of wine and citrona were consumed before the conversation took place :-) The context helps a lot.

Myriads

Itsallgood

Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 05:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ptomaine wrote:

Itsallgood,
I didn't realize this was news at all. And is old news news? ne wrote:


Ptomaine, usually (IMO) when people post in this section it is something NEW that has happened! Obviously someone thought it was "news" because a thread was made about it. LOL

Since BB3 is over, I assumed any new thread that starts is something someone has found and wants to share vs something that we have either seen or read on the LF posts. (I assumed wrong, I see!)

The way I see it as far as the Old News vs New News.....OLD News is something we have already read or seen concerning BB3 HG and NEW news is something that has happened since the HG left the House.

No biggie...JMHO ;-)

Ptomaine

Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 07:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Itsallgood,

I'm just teasing you.