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Cyn

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
danielle somewhat reprimands Amy for cutting Jason off. Amy said that she would wait till he was finished. Danielle said that she had to wait for Jason and then Gerry.

Amy talks about how her mom and boyfriend from high school ran her errands for conditioner, etc. They went to the Aveda store. She went to her banker and put her father's name on stuff and rearranged some other accounts and quit her big job.

Jason and Roddy tell their story about telling people.

Lisa told her grandma that she might be going cause she could keep a secret.

L - she is such a beautfiul lady and I told her cause I had to get her to sign a contract and she started to cry. when i called her a few days later, she was like oh (named a bunch of names) are so excited for you. but, i don't know how they know. I didn't tell them.

amy keeps saying how her dad wanted to tell the Rotary Club.

This chit-chatting on this subject continues.

Cyn

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Rod makes laughter about the old Jay being back, because Jason makes a reference to somewhere someone is calculating that on a site somewhere. (missed what they are talking about)

Amy’s book title (unwritten) is The Charity Ball – The Grass Is Always Greener. She has copyrighted it already.

Jason – the grass is greener here. (joke cause they spray paint the lawn)/

Roddy gets up and goes to the bathroom, then he starts to scrape the tops of the pastries (?) off and puts them on a plate to take outside.

They are talking about “old school Disney” movies.

Marcellas still sleeps in his bed.

Roddy is inside making something in the kitchen.


ed note: 12:12 post is about how they told the people that they told they were coming in here and what they did.

Flyonthwall

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
(up for a few, not to with it but will sum up what I heard\hear)

Mar, Lisa and Dani in HRD
Jason, Amy outside
Roddy and Gerry in LR playing chess
Quad cam on HRD and outside
Mar, Li, Dan

Talk about how Gerry is bugging them all.
How G didn't do his dishes but expected Mar to do them. Made Mar made.

Mar was irritated at Amy all day too.
Saying she is trying to be the sexy girl in the house.
He knows that Amy wanted Chi out because Amy wanted to be the center of attention with the guys.
He thinks she is acting like a fool over Roddy.
Dani agrees.

Mar and Dani tell Lisa how Amy used to count how many times Roddy kissed her.
Lisa is surprised because she didn't know.
They talk about her lip stick being on Roddy's lips.
Lisa said she didn't know it happened.

(Lisa came in after they had been talking for a while)

They talk about how Amy was pouting.
How she wanted to be part of the game, back in but then she gets off by herself and pouts over why no one loves her.

Dani tells how Gerry told her that he had a dream about Dani and being at her house.
Dani didn't like it and it freaked her out.

Lisa talks about how they didn't know where Gerry was last night.

Dani told Mar Gerry was plotting against Mar to her, and she shut him down.
Gerry was saying that Mar was not playing a smart game since Amy was back.
Dani said Mar's fine.

Dani said Roddy told Lisa it wouldn't be bad if Gerry stayed.

Lisa says Roddy spends time with Lisa now because Chi is not there.
Dani says Chi was so jelous.
Lisa is not falling for Roddy's talk.

They talk about the voteing issues again.
CHi voting Lisa out over Eric

Dani talks about how CHi ruled the house with an iron fist when she was HOH.
They didn't like that.

OUTSIDE:
Jason and Amy talk about Amy's old boyfriends and how she can't find love or have good relationships with guys.
They talk about TV shows and characters.
Houses for sale that people were murdered in.

(earlier)
Everyone was outside at the firepit..grill, they used it for campfire.
Amy was on the hammock while they were all talking then finally joined them around the fire.
Jason asked her what was wrong.
Amy said she didn't want to talk about it.
She wanted to talk in the DR but they kicked her out.
She is sad about a lot of stuff she don't want to talk about.

The group talked about how they were picked up and got their keys.
Amy keep interrupting and Dani stopped her and told her to wait it was Jason turn then Gerry's.
Amy keeps talking about Gone with the wind movie, and some other movie.
Dani talks about how it's not real life though.
Amy keeps going on about it, as if it is real.
Dani seems frustrated.
Roddy leaves goes inside after a time.

Dani went inside, Lisa went, Gerry went.
(sorry for the out of order)

Cyn

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
danielle, lisa and marcellas are criticizing amy at present.

danielle says she saw Roddy when the ROddy and Chiara thing first started with lipstick on his lips and it was not Chiara's color. (meaning that it was amy's.)

Mar is mad cause amy said she worked to evict Chiara cause it was due to her being mean to her for two weeks. But, now he thinks it's because she likes roddy.

mar called her a beauty queen gone bad.

they mention other things, but i'm too tired to completely follow it.

they are not happy that amy has come back because she changed the whole game.

they talk aabout chiara has jealosy issues.

m - if she thinks that that relationship is valid and it's going to continue outside of this house, she's crazy. he told me he ws forced into that relationship by her and tonya. tonya started calling her his girlfriend and stuff like that, pushing him.

l - that's why he was so happy getting rid of her.

(missed some sentneces)

l - i made the deal with amy. but, i made sure chiara was way out of ear shot. it was like amy do you want HOH; Jaosn do you want HOH - no. so, i said (to amy) will you listen to Marcellas and she said yes. so, i got out.

d - if i win hoh next week i'm going to bed early. and, that whole sh*t about Jason rub my feet with chiara that pissed me off.

l - i don't know what pissed me off more her putting her feet in everybodies face or him not being strong enough to stop it.

d - and, her last words being don't trust jason when he was the one in here who actually cared for her. i told him what she said and you could see the hurt on his face.

m - chiara tried to load the deck. i would be surprised if she would be intellectually smart enough to set it with if you get HOH don't nominate roddy. (meaning to jason)

))Fly I'm zonked. THANKS for rescuing me. i'm too tired to be coherent. yeah Whit's here, too.((

Whit4you

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa, Dani and Marc in a bedroom all going off on Amy - Marc leading it. Complaining about her, her storming off to dr etc.

Marc - We needed her back - she changed the direction of the game - it's a completely different game now. If she were not back we'd all be going 'see you on the outside'
But no matter what this would be Gerry's week - did you see him sitting there shell shocked?

(Jason and Amy outside talking about some book in school or something like that)

They are now discussing Gerry - marc saying that he thinks Gerry didn't expect to ever get Nominated. They are discussing that Gerry has a deal with Roddy. Now they are asking about Roddy's deals.

Lisa - if Roddy thinks his deal with me fails he'll come to you (to dani)

Dani - no he wont come to me

Marc - hell come to me

? No he wont come to you - because Amy is on the block

Now they are discussing CHaira and her jealousy - dani says Chaira would be jealous of Lisa if she were still there.

)ed: they talk for a while about Chaira and her behavior in the house and behavior as HOH etc)

Marc - if she thinks for a 2nd that relationship is valid and it's going to continue

Marc he told me he felt like he was forced to be in it - between her and tonya he felt he had no choice - he knew it made him look bad in the house. But he said he wanted to get to know her. And then Tonya kept calling her his girlfriend.

Lisa - that's why he was so happy to get rid of the extra baggage

(ed - next subject)

Dani - Boy HOH next week I'm going to be early - gonna have a big breakfast in the morning - do some praying on the toilet

They are now discussing Jason and his infatuation with Chiiara. They then discuss Jason not nom'ing Rod.

Dani - he talked himself otu of that one. He's the devil (rod)

Marc questiong why Jason asked everyones opinion if Jason made a deal with her. Marc says he doesnt think it's true.. that she was protecting rod on her way out the door.

Dani - no she said you watch out for each other THIS week.

Marc - had I f'n known that he wouldnt be HOH right now - there was a moment I could have turned it - I could have picked that box up sooner. I'm not saying I threw it but the moment I realized certain people were out I was like 'ok what ever' but had I realized there was a deal on teh table it would have taken alot

Dani - it's ok you wanted Gerry gone this week

Lisa - but now with Gerry gone he's gonna take Jason under his wing and?

Marc - whoever gets HOH has got to put Roddy up -

Dani - nope he has to go first!

Marc - but you know me I get stuck on the fine details - if I get HOH I'm putting him up - I may put him up against her

Lisa? - we will tell her

Marc - f' that - I'm not tellign her nothing

Dani - you can't tell her spit - she tells him everything

Marc - the thing is I asked her directly and she said she didn't tell him anything. Do you think she told Gerry and Gerry told him?

Lisa - there's to much detail - it had to come directly
(marc leaves)
Dani - if I'd gotten HOH it woulda been so dramatic - all the finger pointing - it would have been beautiful cause I have a story to tell and I'd let you guys make the decision. I'd say lets pull the keys and you can see who's involved in the story. So now you all know the story you all make the decision. And next week I will still tell the story and let you all make the decision.


Dani - that he'd be best one to stand against in the end - boy he just showed his true cards - that's it that's it

(ed: re Marc saying somethign to the effect of 'i wonder if rod might be best one to stand against in the end"

Flyonthwall

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
(hang with me gang it's 3:25 here!)

Back with Mar Lisa and Dani in HRD talking
Jason and AMy still outside
Not sure, but Roddy and Gerry were in LR playing chess

Lisa says now that Eric's gone then Roddy will take Jason under his wing.
Mar R has to go up next week.
My desire is to get rid of Amy.
Dani: NO R has to go first!
Lisa: R has to go first!
Mar: ladies...I know

Mar: If I get HOH I'll put him up, maybe against her.(amy)
Not even tell her
Lisa: No..she'll tell him
Dani: she tells him everything.
Mar She told me she didn't tell him anything.
Lisa: she had to because R knew to much detail.

Mar goes to wc

Dani: says if she had got HOH she'd have told a story and finger pointed.
Told the story and then pulled he keys and you could tell how was involved.
Ya'll know the story now ya'll can make the decission. I'll do it next week.
I hope HOH next time is something to do with stamina, cuz that's the only way we can beat him.

Dani: he spend a lot of time with G he knows a lot.
Lisa I think you know a lot
Dani: I think Mar knows a lot too.

Lisa: I like talking to R but once he pulls me away he slips stuff in there. I don't like being a lone with him.
Dani: I told them in DR I have to think
If he dosen't think he'll suceed with you, if he'll try to work me.
Lisa: I think he will. With your little tiff with Amy outside, I think he'll try to work that.

Dani:When he(R) said G would be the best person to stand with at the end he showed his true colors.

Lisa: Yeah but if it goes in that order (R Then Amy) then it will be luck from there on.

Lisa: I don't want to hear it. R will be...Oh god I'm good at it if I can think.

Dani: I talked to Jason told him to ask R opinion about every HG
He can still change things.
Lisa: R is clever he'll know
Dani: Not if he(R) thinks Jason is on his side.

Dani talks about her talking in the DR
she's going on about things she's said.

Uhoh

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani, Lisa and Marcellas are talking in b'room in dark

they're talking about needing roddy out, how amy tells him everything, and marcellas said if he gets hoh he might put amy up with roddy. he said he's ready for her to go.

marcellas left and dani and lisa are talking about roddy.

L - yeah, if it goes in that order, we're left w/ 4 good people in the house... it doesn't have to get ugly

D - no, it doesn't

(they're both talking softly and i'm only getting scattered bits)

Flyonthwall

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
(Night Cyn..YOU ROCK! HI WHIT & Uhoh..maybe they are winding down)

Dani and Lisa talk about when Josh was there and that he would have told about the Eric/Lisa vote and CHi voted for Lisa.

They talk about when the Roddy's key was pulled out first how they felt.
Dani was saying dam it..to hell
Lisa: looked like flames

THey talk about their DR visits.
Lisa talking about how calm she is
Dani talking about how angry she gets and how animated she is in there (DR)

Dani couldn't get over Jason not putting him up.

Mar and Roddy in kit.

Lisa says R had jason in the HOH forever.
Dani: mumbling so hard to make it out but keeps saying you the devil over and over
Have to keep her eye on him (R)
Using gestures as she talks

R come in to the HRD as they are laughing
He askes what's going on
Dani and LIsa say they were talking about the so what's of the eveinging

Gerry come in HRD
Mar is in SR putting things away

Gerry talks about Paciso
Dani and Lisa giggling
R thinks they have nitrious oxide.
THey giggle

Mar goes to HOH with something to eat and sits on bed, listening to headphones.

Dani says she is going to wear something on her head every morning bc of what her mom said.

Gerry tell her it's bc she(D) has talked about it all the time.

Dani says you look half crazy.

(okay gottago can't make fingers work..night)

Grannygrunt

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 03:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
lisa and dani in HRD talking about voting the way they want to vote. when a decoy is used then you can't vote your way, you have to vote to save the decoy.

talk to goes to amy telling roddy and josh everything. she is dangerous about things like that. she will tell EVERYTHING. that's why josh knew so much because amy told him everything,

dani thinks it will interesting watching those tapes of the game.

dani now on to Roddy will put her up. he thinks she hates his guts but she doesn't. this is a game. roddy is smart. he's the devil. dani telling story about being in DR. dani says she has street smarts and common sense. she knows when she is being played.

now talk is about dani's video. what her mother and brother said. dani says roddy is the devil. doesn't believe in God. lisa says something about roddy making fun of her for asking the blessing before she eats.

dani is gonna pray over roddy's bed and pillows tomorrow. now talk about chiara asking them to take care of roddy. what did she mean? dani telling about chiara asking everybody to vote for roddy and not vote for her.

talk about shannon and will from last year. chiara told every one elses secrets except for roddys.

dani really wants to get HOH. she knows what she has to do. back to chiara's jealous thing with roddy. chiara ask them to come to NY to visit and both agree they could never do that. she's to wild for them.

roddy told lisa a story about chiara and that's when he wanted to push the panic button and leave. he couldn't believe he was with someone that would do that stuff. a lot of sexual stuff she did. the drug thing.

dani telling the story about roddy talking at the table about his friend that died and how cold chiara was about that. she didn't even realize roddy was still hurting about that. roddy was crying and dani got up and went and hugged his neck and chiara just started telling some story about something that had nothing to do with anything.

(RP froze. have to get ready for work. sorry this is all I got.}

Grannygrunt

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 04:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
quad cam check:

cam1: gerry sleeping

cam2: lisa sleeping

cam3 and 4: amy, jason, roddy, mar on patio talking. general chit-chat.

the same guys are on the patio as when lisa and dani were in HRD in the above post.

mar going to bed now. kissing amy goodnight.

see jason curled up in papasan chair. looks like he is sleepig. amy and roddy still talking.
mar went to WC and forgot to cut off mic. we get FOTH.

(really have to leave now to go to work)

Flyonthwall

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Rod and Jason talking in HOH

Jason says its hard now it's getting low on numbers in house.

Talk about Amy, leaving then coming back.
It would stink if she won after that.

R: I'm still thinkin maybe G will be in the house.
Ja: you never know.

Ja: G and A that's pretty cool, Amy was cool with it. THen he talked to G.

R says easy week.

R: Ment to ask you. Did you have a couple days you were feeling down last week?
Ja: yeah bc I was torn 30min after noms she came out and told me what she wanted me to do.
(When Chi wanted him to vote for her out not Roddy)
Ja: I felt she was ready to go from what she said.

R: she had the same story with G
That's evidence of how she felt.
(about going)

R: you do have a very easy week, it's privacy refershing.
JA; I like to leave the door open, but at night I really like to have it to myself.

Ja: week one I didn't want to win it.
They asked me about stradigy, I said not win week one or two.
NOt be visible

R: odd in your favor

Ja: Josh was easy target. Felt good first night, he hit me up first 15min out of the tree.
Person negative, that person needs to go.
Not Hi nice to met you or anything.
Ja had to think who was in what tree and what Josh was talking about. Guessed Mar but didn't know who he was at that point.

JA: he's a stand out person, I told him if your talkin about Mar then I see what you mean.
Josh implied they would vote for Mar.
Jason heard about meeting in hot tub.

R: says he and Eric were just sitting in hot tub then all the sudden it was like Hear ye hear ye..

Ja: starts laughing.
Saying something about Lori and week one.

Ja: I will feel bad when ever she goes but I don't feel she should win the game, maybe I'm a scumbag, but that's how I feel.
R: No

Ja: no vengful, she knows it, she said no one would let her make it far in the game.

R: it is...after you told me everyone wants me out..I want to kill (for?) HOH

Ja: no..it's just whos name comes up.
G name consistanty came up.
Lisa never said...but asked if Eric was trying to rally votes.

R: she never asked me about that.
Not even long ago how I loved Eric.
and I said that in front of her, to her so hopefully that help her a little bit.

They talk about Josh and his stories and G and power of veto.
Eric never rallyed votes. We were just talking about voting.

R: something strange...almost everyone has mentioned that a certain person has said I'm powerful in the house. and it's bothering me.
I actually confronted the person and they denyed it 100%.

R: that part of the game I don't like.
It's always there...that feeling. Like it's always there a test on THurs.

Ja: going around asking what are kids names.

R: I'm going to be streight forward and trustworth and stuff, and it gets me voted out of the game then so be it..if I have to be a loser to get ahead then I'm goign home.

Ja: talkes about G
He's goofy and fumbling, then he plays chess perfect.
R:talks about Mr Magoo, Calling G that, puts on glass, nothing he can do no wrong. He can walk thru a mine field, I told him that. You would have screwed up earlier in this game.

Ja: when you start narrowing ppl down by who is a threat...Like Josh....that's what kept G here.
You get down to the end standing there, he won't win.
PPl feel threatened by someone very smart..like you, then it would be hard at the end.
Person didn't do anything wrong.
It's so weird to tell you that.

R: It's no secret..I've said in the DR, (missing)
Something about them keeping weak people and getting out the strong. (he's not for that)

R: thing I emphasied over and over again...the majority aren't going to be here in the end.
If you have the chance to be up against someone like that (a stong player) in the end it would be better.

Ja talks more about it going against someone strong.

(PP on all of this missing a lot but the point is here)

R: if your going to take Amy's Gerry's to get to the end, don't want to play it the easy way.

R is basically telling Jason that it is better to take a strong person to the end, and that your going to have to trust someone's word at the end.
That's all he can offer.

Ja: I wathced last yr, knowing that Josh was coming in the big liar, it's not going to work.

R: last yr it was just less of choices.

Ja: she was up week one going to go. but turned it around for herself. It's so funny to talk about the process...you don't konw all the behind the sceens..I wasn't watching the internet...week one is not on the internet.
I don't know Will didn't corner some ppl week one, maybe cut a deal or whatever...Sheryl was on the block then she was out the door.

R: Heard she was great.

Ja: Will saved her too, maybe so he'd have someone to win against in the end.

More talk aobut WIll and how loved he was for the way he played the game.

J: I know ppl are going to hear what I say about them.
R: did you hear what I said
J: like you were talking to them.

Girl talk and how all the girls did it and then played they didn't.
The guys knew they did have girl talk and time to plot.

R: say AMy goes
Gerry floating days are over.
She was in Mexico
J: right now she hasn't ..she's a diff Amy then before. Something you poured into her.
R: we had some good talks.
J: it was good for her to leave and come back. She thinks she was viewed as evil.

(j went off topic now back)

R says everyone in the house left would be so well liked.
R says I did think for a while about keeping some suckers...but this is a solid group here.
No one I'm comfortable going up against.

Ja: I dont' want to win HOH and have to put two great ppl up.
I just don't want it.

R: itsn't that strange that HOH can compete.

Ja: I said I was going to really compete for the veto, because I didn't want my gnome distroyed.
Then I won...never happened before.

R: says great position to be in.
JA: I'm probly not going to pull someone off and offend another person...(said jokinly laughing)

Ja: thinks veto will be dropped soon.
R asking what do they do when there is 4 ppl
Ja: it's the same system.
you make the vote.

R so you can go out and lobby all you want.
But if veto is used then your automatically going in.

R going to bathroom

THey leave the hoh
R asks Ja if he wants to watch the sun come up.
Ja yeah
R it's 5:40

Bbtimes3

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
4:45 BB time - Feed 3 - Jason & Roddy talking in HOH room with lights out

(came in mid-convo)

R - Eric, Josh, Chi, gone and now I'm on the block. I've lost more people that said they would keep me here than anybody hands down. And there's this theory that I'm the favorite.
J - There's like a paranoia I think. 3 or 4 people come and it's like 'beware the ides of march' I'm sorry R, when I went in that back room it was like... I just had to come down to when I said I trust you. It doesn't matter anything else said by any other person. If it costs me the game it costs me the game the friendship matters.
R - I could tell if you're skeptical. When I left here and you told me about it. Do you remember when I was HOH I told you you weren't going out?
J - I almost did that. I just wanted to ask everybody. I wanted it to be the house decides. Then I was thinking Oh, we talked.
R - I felt that way about every single person in the house at one point because you hear everything. I could just see that there a lot of people are, not opportunistic, but they want someone else to come to bat for them and do what's hard. If I really had this placed wiped, would I have come to you so many times. If someone did think I had sh*t figured out and they were HOH and they put me up because they think I did then they would be somebody I would instinctively go after. So what they do is go to you and make you take the risk. Get rid of em. If you don't get rid of them then it's you.
J - I'm not saying this to be mean. Every person mentions your name. I think everybody feels that you're a threat because of the fact that you're super smart.
R - Thanks.
J - If you want to win any competition you can. If you wanted to stay in the tub longest you could have. You know what I'm saying. I'm not saying it to be mean or malicious but it does make everybody like 'Wow, that's a little scary'
J - Honestly, I feel like next week. That I'll be leaving the house on Sept. 5. I just feel like it stinks to be in this position.
R - I'll keep you around.
J - If it happens next week that I go it's OK I can live with it. I'm not going to just lay down and die but there are 7 people right now, one person gone this week leaves 6 next week. One in a 6 shot and a 1 in 5 or like 1 in 3 shot at winning 2nd place. Those are not really good odds knowing it's all a game of chance.
J - And then I just don't know where people stand...(rebuffering)

R - Just because it would be so amazing if people won this game. It would make people mad as all get out.
J - it would
R - It would also make people mad if Ger was still in the house.
J - I was really thankful that it was essentially a good week. Amy was cool with it. Ger said I don't want to go out but if I do I understand.

J - It's good and then the fact that we weren't a split week on feed made me happy and then we won the Dunkin Donuts.

R - Let me ask you. I was gonna ask you last weekend. Did you have a couple of days where you were down last week?
J - Yeah because I was really torn because after the noms came out, I was like "Kik." I was glad to hear from you she was glad to go.
R - Kiki had the same story with Gerry (about wanting to go home and see family). That made me feel good because she would tell you and me, but for her to tell Ger was proof she wanted to go.

(talk a little about how nice HOH room is..)
J - I wake up in the morning. I'm not going to leave this room all day.
J - Week 1 I didn't want to win it. (now Jason practically talking about week 1 and the tree comp and how Josh came to him 15 minutes after getting out of the tree wanting to know if he knew who the negative person might be and how Josh didn't like Marc)

(Now Jason talking about finding out there was a meeting in the HT)

J - I just don't feel right that Amy to win this game. There are people that aren't in the house, KiKi, that deserve to win it. She said to me that she knows you guys aren't going to let me make it very far in the game.
R - After you told me everybody wants me out I have to win HOH.
J - No, Ger's name came up consistently. Lisa didn't want to give me names. She was like I don't know. She had questions to ask me about the Eric week and if he was rallying votes. I told her he didn't.
R - She asked me that too. It also came up not very long ago that I loved it.
J - I guess that she heard that from I guess Josh. Because she included Josh's name. I told her that...(talking too fast to keep up but basically there was never any pressure on anybody)

R - The one thing that's strange is that without almost every single person in the house as mentioned that everyone is worried about me doing well in the last couple of weeks. It's gotten back to me so many tmes that now it's driving me a little crazy. It's been bothering me and I actually confronted the person who completely denied it 100% and it seems amazing that 3 weeks ago Chi saying something to me about it and it's amazing. I'm not going to go out and make a fuss but I feel like it's always there. Test on Thursday. I feel like...The thing that I think I even mentioned way way back is I'm gonna be straightforward and honest and cool about stuff. If that's what this game is about being a loser, then I'm going home.
J - I think just the fact that....here's what's scary for people in this game because it's always about asking little things about strategy. It's like Gerry, sometimes he's goofy and fun like Mr. McGoo and then you watch him play chess.
R - Did you ever watch Mr. McGoo? He could do no wrong. He can walk through a minefield doing a dance step but the steps in the right places. I've told him Ger, you've screwed up. And he's like he knows it. He's good at certain things but to me I don't think because I know about whatever philosophy means I know what's going on here.
J - When you start narrowing out things that make people a threat...like keep Josh around because it will be easy to vote him out. It's what's kept Ger around here because even if Ger made final 2 he'd win the 50,000 not 1st. That's why someone feels threatened by someone very smart like you who have made no mistakes. That's why people feel threatened. Look, I've told you. I feel threatened by you in the game.
R - I put it out like it's no secret. I call it out to them. That you people have a show called Survivor and Killer. The thing I've said and emphasized over and over again everybody thinks they're going to be there at the end against a monkey. Shouldn't you feel like. I've pissed off some people here, I would rather play in the final game and have a tough game than never even having a chance to make it to the playoffs.
J - That's tough because when you come in here you want to keep Ger and Josh to the end but then you have quality people here you care about. I've said if I'm sitting there I'm not going to feel bad giving you the money. If it came down to final 2 yeah but that's what makes it a good game. I'm being honest.
R - Of course. You're a big boy. If you made it to the end and you had to take somebody's word to get there would it be Amy, etc...that's to me, to get there. IF you were running through the desert and you had a canteen of water you wouldn't drink the water after you'd died of dehydration. If you don't believe in the small things here (opinions, trust) in a way all the things that come back people aren't going to trust you. You're going to have to depend on someone's word in the last couple of weeks. And I've showed you I've been straightforward about everything. You'll see. I could never do the Josh thing, Oh by the way I've been lying to you..

J - There's no way especially now knowing that he said he was going to be the big liar won't work.
R - Everybody wants to keep a Will around.
J - Will was very smart in who he kept. When she was up week 1 and going to go (Nicole) she turned it around for herself by Will. I wasn't watching the internet to know everything that happened. Plus week 1 wasn't on. So I don't know if Will didn't corner people so Nicole's on the block up against Sheryl and then the woman everybody loved and was great was out the door. I think it was a Will...

R - Something I was thinking about...
J - I know people are going to see what I say about him (they're talking about Josh but Jas keeps interrupting Rod alot)

R - If Ger and Amy go the next couple of weeks, Li would get all the girl vote, Li would get Eric vote, Marcellas is the f**king god of the game, and then us two. You would be the hardest person to beat. Dani would be incredibly hard to beat. The girls always had girl time and primping time.
J - And they said there was no such thing as girl time.
R - I would get so mad at Chi. There's no girl time. It's all time.

Somebody peeped in the door...J & R say they're not talking game...they leave.

R - You, me, Dani, Lisa, Mar final 5. It seems like the Ger floating days are over.
J - Right now she (Amy)..she's even a different Amy than before. I'm really impressed.
R - Oh totally different.
J - I think leaving here for a minute was really good for her. She thought people in here were evil mean to her.
R - There's gonna be like 300 people...??
J - When it's all over with, Tonya might be at home laughing her head off, like "Goofball"
R - So if we had 5 left, that's an incredibly well-liked 5 people. Li is incredibly well liked, Dani is kicking a*s, you are the mean who's never said the "f" bomb like you have the cleanest record of all time just throw it out one time on the live show.
R - If there's no suckers left there's some solid people here. well cast. I was thinking that there's nobody I feel comfortable going up against.
J - I don't want to win HOH because I don't want to be the person 2 put people up. I'll go up on the block and hope people save me.
J - I really like my gnome because I want to keep it (basically saying he really was gonna compete in the HOH comp to win)

J - I'm not supposed to say what I'm going to do.
R - I think he might have agreed with the HOH's decision who to put up.
J - Yeah (he's laughing hysterically)...
J - I don't think the POV is going to last because when it comes down to the last 5.
R - The POV will be the most powerful person. When there's 4 people is it still the same system.
J - Yes
R - So if you're not HOH in the final 4....

R - The veto thing is strange because you're automatically going in...

They just bust into loud laughter!!!!!!!!Going outside saying, "Oh my God!"

Let's wat the sun come up. (couldn't tell who said it)
Yeah, it's 5:40.

Make me one! (some tea). One goes into WC another is in kitchen.

Feed timed out. Post at 5:26 BB time.

Gail

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason and Roddy are in the HOH room talking. They've been talking for quite a while now but the conversation is going to fast to post anything.

They are talking about who is left and how who is left in the final five are incredibly well liked, very well cast, and that none of them are dumb. Saying Lisa is well liked, Dani playing good game. How Jason has not pissed anyone off.

Jason is now talking about how he doesn't think POV can't last when there are only 5 people left.

Roddy just walked out, Jason just walked out - they are going out to watch the sun come up. Roddy is going to bathroom, Jason is going to make tea for them. (yeah, Roddy washed his hands)

They are talking about how POV has to go because of the lessening of numbers. Talking about when you want to win HOH.

Jason is in bathroom(ed - is there a special microphone in the toilet that overtakes all the audio no matter what video you are watching?) Roddy on patio pouring charcoal into grill. The grill is lit and they are sitting in papasan chairs.

Jason is talking about how tired he was a little while ago and how he is wide awake now. Wishing they could have an omelet, donuts or bagel.

Now Jason talking about how Will played last year - how he never got HOH but got put up a lot. How he made himself very nice, non confrontational, etc.

(I have to leave for work now.)

Flyonthwall

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
(Missed a lot on that last one gang...sorry)

Ja: the veto has to end
R: it's gotta go
(at the end not enough ppl)

R here's the thing...I don't want to give you free stradigy.
They go on to doubt that veto is used at the end.

Ja: you want to win HOH at the end bc you pic someone to take with you.
R: OMG
Ja and R going outside
Want blankets bc it's cold outside
Ja wants to start a fire.

They are gathering up goodies and coffee and blanks jackets to go outside
In papsan chairs
Ja off to bathroom
R making fire in the grill

Ja had to take an emergency pit stop.

jayrod

R asking for donuts
Ja wants double DR asking for bagels

More talk of BB2 and Will
Never winning HOH that was his goal.
How many times he went on the block
Several times close

R says it's unbelieable on the 4 left at the end

Ja: but Will put himself very nice but put girls on edge with each other.
So Nic decided Will and that she would win against him.
Truth be told everyone thought he was funny.

R: was it a flat out goof or did he tell them

Ja: that was one of those things...you could't tell.
Like he said he was going to lie, I don't remmber it exacly, Then they brushed him off not really believeing him.
THen he did whatever he wanted.

R still an incredibel amount of luck
Ja: yeah
I didn't like him in the beginning
R: buts in but dosne't finish his thought.

Ja: talks about his family beach trip.
While he was watching the show there.

Talk about what nights it was on.
5 nights a week.
R thought the first season was a bomb.
J said it was but not enough to cancel the whole thing.

R they already own the propertry
Ja: it's there parking lot
One summer when I lived in a parking lot
It had a resonalble amount of veiwers
So season 2 they repackaged it
it was better then the first but not steller like Survivor.

R: then Sept. 11...climax of the show then who cares bc of that.

Ja: I was on line, trying to find out what happend.
So 2 weeks later when show ended I watched the fanilly...it felt wrong..to even be concerned about it with what was going on in nation.

Flyonthwall

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
( if others are here now I'll go)

R jokes that the show is better now this year.
Ja: since your on it.

THey talk about it being like a soap opera.

Ja: says he has to stop saying Ya know..he says it a lot.
R says he has buz words like that too

R: who did you root for
Ja: I was rooting for Will at the end
Talks about the 2 questions asked by the jury.
Bunky asking his question on donatinig to charity.
Nic her answer was unmemoriable
WIll says I'll be honest, I won't give any to charity.
But they had seen the show and they knew he was being honest in the DR and lying to their face.
He won by 8 votes

Ja: no way any of these ppl were going to vote for him
R: i heard it was the lesser of two evils.
Ja: being here is an amazing experience
Nic would be griping about the whole thing.
SHe planned out the meals and rationed the food, I was worred about the food nazi

R: oh I was worried aobut that too

(okay sorry for the mess again.maybe someone is up now...I'm out)

Flyonthwall

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
joshfire
Talk about screen shots and not wanting to have bad hair.
(remember Will shorts.com..? LOL)

R moved his chair over by Jason so he can see the morning star.
THen never looks towards it.
THey add a peice of wood to the grill for a bit more fire.

Jason points out the star and says look how bright, they look.

They talk about sunbathing
Two sunrises they said and gave a 5 spot to each other.
(thought they were going to hold hands LOL)

R talks about times he's had to work so he's used to staying up and watching sun rise.
He does it a lot.

R's mom bugging him about staying up all night

Ja: why does your mom get up set about that.
I don't know, my mom will do that saying you stayed up to watch the sun rise. Why didn't you get sleep while in the house.
We could stay up all night and sleep all day
It would go quicker.
Good convo I'm all about that
Amy and I talked about Mama's family for an hour
You'd have shot me
It killed an hour, I was grateful for that

Ja: then we talked about the fair
You might have to come to the Memphis fair

(night ya'll!)

Bbtimes3

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
5:28 BB time - Rod & Jason going outside with their tea to watch sunset in the papasan chairs.

(Earlier they were talking in the kitchen while making tea and Rod told Jas he'd give him some free strategy, no not free, but that the most important time to win POV would be with 3 left)

R - Did you get a blanket? It's a little cold.
J - Yeah.

J - I heard Regis talking about it. He said that you have sleep windows and you have a 90 minute sleep window or something and if you're tired and it comes around and you pass it up it's like another 90 minutes before it comes again.
J - 10 minutes ago I was tired (ed:didn't seem tired to me..LOL) so I had to sit up.

J - Guys, when are the donuts coming?
R - Guys?

We're about to have a double diary room to request fresh bagels.

J - Will was up on the block like 3 or 4 times. It was close. You thought he was gonna go.
R - Yeah.
J - Honestly he could have won it. But he threw it. He made himself very nice and no confrontation and they had a few falling outs so when Nic won it she decided Will because everybody hated his guts.
R - Wow.
J - Truth to be told. He was hilarious. He told them what he was gonna do.
R - Did he flat out tell him or was it a goof he told them?
J - That's the thing. I don't remember. I want to say it was prob around the thing the first night. "Hi guys, I'm Will, I'm gonna play this to a T. My goal is to come in here and lie to you..." Everybody erupted into laughter. And then from there on he did whatever.
R - There's still an incredible amount of luck involved.
J - I didn't like him at first.
R - That's part of the reason why I think it's laughable that people keep bringing the topic back to themself. But you didn't like him in the beginning?
J - No. Most people didn't. My mom wrote my letter (couldn't catch dates) and that's the time that my fam's at the beach at the condo.

(Now they're talking about the first season was a bomb. It was on 5 nights a week. Talking about the stories of living on a CBS parking lot one summer to people. Jason talking about how Season 2 was better but not stellar and wasn't beating friends. Then Rod talking about then Sept 11 coming and just killing the show because people were like "Who cares?.)

J - Two weeks later when things calmed down I was watching the finale. I felt like it was wrong because of what was going on in the nation. How the finale was rated, over the course of the show it was a solid thing. It wasn't a dive but it wasn't off the map. Maybe tweak a couple of things.
R - It does seem like now obviously because I'm on the show. It seems like something if you did have your family for the summertime if you were away or kids at camp or even if you got home at 7:30 and the show was on at 8:00 and you followed the story it's like a live soap opera. No script and how people get along. No shootings or alcoholic rages or anything. Well here we have come close to that... (ed LOL) Who did you root for last year?
J - I have to stop saying "I know"
R - I say that alot.
J - In the DR I say it and then have to say hold on.
R - Who did you root for?
J - I was rooting for Will at the end. On the finale I thought "No way" was he going to win this. They got 2 questions at the end and they voted for who they wanted to win. Bunky stood up and asked Will and Nicole how much money they were going to give to charity. Nicole was like blah blah blah. Will said I'm not gonna give a dime to charity. From that moment on he was completely honest. I was like "You jerk!" But they had seen the show and the fact that he was being honest. He won it by a landslide. Like 8 votes in his favor. It was huge. I thought no way these people were gonna give it to him.
R - That's what I heard..it was the lesser of two evils.
J - Being here is such a great experience. If Nicole was here she'd be going "I can't believe I'm up so late, etc..." When I came in here I was really afraid there was gonna be a food nazi (like Nicole was). There are certain things that are fair game like sweets and stuff. If I'm still hungry I feel like I can dig into the M&M's. I could eat PB&J all day long. Like the Egg Beaters, I don't mind using that. I don't want to use the eggs because they may want it.
R - The night I made a ham sandwich there was only one slice of ham left and I felt so bad.
R - You have to stick around Los Angeles a while so we can just feast. Do you want to go to a baseball game?
J - Yeah.

R - Oh look at the morning star! We're not usually up at this time.
(they're checking on the fire...gotta keep it going for the cute girls...)

R - Oh Jay! That's the sun coming up! Oh darn, what a way to spend the summer.
J - I'm gonna waste the whole day tomorrow because I'm going to be sleeping. (saying it's great)
R - Can I survive until 10:00 for the POV meeting?
J - We're wearing pj's.
R - I've stopped getting dressed for them. I only get dressed for Thur show.
J - I wear a hat all the time in here.
R - Me too because you look like Secaucus (?)
J - I don't want to have screen shots on people's web pages of Bad Hair Shot #1 and ...
R - Talking about screen shots. You don't have any moment...like if you're talking to a woman and that one moment where it looks like you're lusting after her.
J - Before I came in here, I was looking at this one picture.
R - It'll be there forever. It's what we signed up for. I actually stopped really caring after 2 or 3 weeks. It's not that I'm over it. Think about the fact that you're here and look awesome with a tan. The first few days you're hear laying in the sun primping and everything. Then you get bored.
J - Amy talking about the super fast tanning bed like 7 minutes. Let me in.
R - I don't know how Tonya did 6 hours.

R - Not bad Jay! 2 sunrises!
J - I've seen a couple of solos. You're the only one I've shared it with.
J - It sounds like you've done it many times.
R - I've been keeping strange hours. When I bartended I wouldn't be getting home for a little bit. Some times about this time I would go grab a cup of coffee...I find that if I drink coffee and go to sleep I wake up easier. It could just be in my head. I don't know if it's true. I'll go outside and get a coffee and paper and watch the sunrise. I'd be the only one up on my terrace.

(gen talk about how parents get mad at them when they stay up all night (ed: ugh, boring talk here, pls go to sleep)

R - I wanna hit the south and go to bar-b-que places. I wanna hit (couldn't catch the name)
J - We're going.
R - Remember when I told you I was the kind of person when I said I was going to do something.
J - Yup. You do it.
R - Yeah.

(Jas telling a story about how him and his brother went on a camping trip with Cain's family and how it was a great experience)

(now Jas talking about how he asked the psych doctor last week before he came in if people go crazy when they leave here. how people going out first week have a worst experience.)

Feeds timed out.

R - The one choice I made here was I had so much time. Everyone thought you had to do everything in the first couple of hours. I remember how long 24 or 30 hours took and figuring that there would be 1500 hours. Everyone take a deep one. I couldn't adjust to everybody's urgency to do things. When I was out in that trailer before I got here, I was so upset.
J - That's a little spider over..
R - I was so upset. I didn't know what the show was really all about. I didn't know what I was preparing myself for. And all of a sudden I was in that trailer and I was like Oh my God I'm going. They have my bags packed. And I was so nauseous about coming in here the first night that it was such a unique feeling and it was nice that everybody was so nice and friendly but when I saw Josh freaking out of his skin I thought I'm just going to take a couple off.
J - In my circle of people that I hang out with I may not always be the life of the party but I'm pretty outgoing and kind of that dominant type a type thing. Not the person having to sit around listen the whole time.
R - I was playing 12th fiddle. Lori was crushing me with her stories.
J - The only thing that made me speak was when Josh said, "Hey you guy over there you haven't said anything all night" I said "You just be quiet"
R laughs really loudly.
J - That was another fear that I would get injured in some strange way and have to get a permanent DR.

R - now that we know each other it's natural. You're not the shyest kid in the world and I'm not the shyest kid in the world.

Comp froze....

R - I feel like. You've seen it at certain times with me.
J - Yeah, the next day I'm all scratchy voice because I've laughed so hard.
R - When we're around here and somebody says something really really funny. There's so many people that compete for the spotlight.
J - Just you asking me if I'm all right makes me really mad. It makes me want to lash out at you.
R - It's strange here and I got onto Ger about it. I'm talking to you and in the middle of the story and he
J - Yeah, it's like...let me try this again. It took 3 times to get the story out. I was dying to hear it and I was like just... Then the (??'s) are fighting! Oh

(now Rod talking about how he tries to get DR people to get a reaction out of them. Hard to get a lot of discernable convo here. Rod laughing so much and they're changing topics so quickly.
Posting and will check back later or unless something needs to be posted. Will be around awhile if needed)

Bbtimes3

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
6:10 BB time.

Rod and Jas going inside to get the Dunkin Donuts boxes and they're gonna take them out back and burn them.

Roddy just went into WC and didn't turn off mic. (how nice)

R - Can I have the SR please? Thank you.
Roddy checking fridge. Gets something (hard to tell choppy picture) and goes outside. (Ah, the Dunkin Donut boxes...)

R - All right. Ready to burn some boxes?
J - No, I've changed my mind.
R - Let's see what it does.
J - It's gonna make a lot of black smoke.

Here's a bad picture...
burningDDboxes

Bbtimes3

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
6:21 BB time

For everyone out there...

Still seems that all the HG's are sleeping besides Rod & Jas who are just talking about radio shows, weightlifting, etc..

Here's a quad cam shot:
quadcam826am

Bbtimes3

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
6:44 AM BB time - Feed 3

(Rod & Jas have just been chit-chatting in general for awhile now..no game talk)

Rod & Jas came inside and discussed whether the microwave time was correct. I think they said it was around 7:00. Rod & Jas hug each other and going to bed.

Roddy goes to WC (again forgot to turn off mic), then undresses, taking shower it appears then feeds change.

Jason now in HOH on bed. Seems to be trying to pick out a CD. (???)

(gonna try another feed)

Feed 4 - Marcellas sleeping. Tossing and turning a little.
Feed 1 - Marcellas sleeping.
Feed 2 - Lisa(??? not sure) sleeping.
Feed 3 - Jason in HOH reading Bible. (Camera getting a lot of close-ups on the pages...wish I had better connection so I could make out the words...maybe somebody else can catch the chapter or verse he's reading...hmmm)
Feed 4 - Marcellas sleeping.

(OK, I'm really out now since all is quiet on BB front....Will be back in a little bit.)

Posting 6:54 BB time.

Spygirl

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 07:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Feed 1 = Marsellas sleeping

Feed 2 = Sunrise over the top of the BB house from the yard

Feed 3 = HoH room..Jason sleeping

Feed 4 = Lisa sleeping