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Richardfan | Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 11:53 pm     'Big Brother' player kept Morris in mind By Laura Bruno Daily Record, Morris County, N. J., Sunday, October 13, 2002 Roddy Mancuso wants fans to know - he is not the devil. The Morris Township native and popular houseguest on the CBS reality show "Big Brother 3" is still mystified by how one of his fellow houseguests demonized him. Two weeks after the show's finale, Mancuso was reluctant to talk about the seamy side of the show during an interview at his parents' home in Morris County. The hardest part of the show wasn't the peanut butter and jelly sandwiches the contestants were forced to endure on numerous occasions. Aside from the sheer boredom of spending 100 days in a house with 12 people and no entertainment, Mancuso said he was disappointed to learn what really was said behind his back. It was only after he was evicted from the house Sept. 5 that he learned from his family that one houseguest in particular was calling him "the devil." Skirting mentions of Danielle, the one who tried to poison other houseguests against him, Mancuso said his actions on the show reflected the truth. "I am the person who they saw on the show," Mancuso said. "Whenever I went into the Diary Room, I imagined my grandfather sipping coffee next to me." Though the budding screenwriter admitted that reality TV is anything but real, he fit the exception to the rule. Mancuso, a Morristown Beard School graduate, said he was intensely aware that he was on television and he was not going to say or do anything that would embarrass his family. Even if other houseguests or "Big Brother" fans thought they were seeing through his "act," Mancuso said he is the honest, trustworthy person that appeared on screen. "I was proud of him," said his father, Peter Mancuso, former Morris Township mayor. "I would rather he not win a nickel and have him be a person of honor and integrity. It's clear that not everyone bought Danielle's attempt to mischaracterize Mancuso. Before "Big Brother 3," Roddy Mancuso was working on a screenplay in Los Angeles, bartending some nights and living a rather uneventful existence. Two weeks after the reality television show ended, he's hired a personal assistant to help sort through 1,000 pieces of fan mail and is still being courted by modeling agencies, movie agents, Playgirl magazine and a television network for a possible soap opera gig. Mancuso is aware that his celebrity status may have a short shelf life, so he's enjoying the attention while it lasts. Strangers ask him for autographs, and some have even requested he leave crank voicemail messages for their friends. "It's strange how people approach me like they know me and dissect my life from what they saw on a reality show," Mancuso said. While viewers got a glimpse of who he is, the show essentially cast many of them into one-dimensional characters, he said. As a psychology major and philosophy minor at Lehigh University, Mancuso said this was the most fascinating part of the show - watching how they all typecast each other into certain personas. After a while, no one wanted to seem unpredictable and everyone was wary of straying from his or her perceived role on the show. To deviate from the expected would mean you'd be walking out the door next, Mancuso said. The oddest part of the whole experience is that when everyone got together after the show ended, they all felt like the game was still on, he said. "It's amazing. Some still thought I was trying manipulate them," Mancuso said. Though Mancuso never thought he would like his fellow house prisoners, lasting friendships were formed, he said. He intends to keep in touch with Lisa (the winner of the $500,000 prize), Eric, Josh and Chiara. He admitted he and Chiara flirted "a ton," while their every move was watched on television. Female fans may be happy to know that the flirtation never went far. Instead, it turned into a friendship, which is where is stands today, he said. -- |
Trulyscrumtious | Monday, October 14, 2002 - 12:49 am     Thank you for posting the article RF.  |
Prisonerno6 | Monday, October 14, 2002 - 08:18 am     I've read comments about Roddy being stand-offish or distant at the cast party, and in the past I've chalked it up to anti-Roddy bias. After reading this, I think he was stand-offish, and unfortunately, I think I understand why. I about a month ago had the experience of hearing some things an alleged friend said about me behind my back. They were relatively tame, but still untrue (saying I was off campus most of the summer because of health problems, when it was because my father died, and also because I took a vacation). Now, there was a grain of truth in what she said (I did miss two days because of an ear infection), but with a very negative spin on it, and certainly not the complete truth. Recently, I had the opportunity to go out to dinner with a group that included this person, and I decided to pass. There were several reasons for that decision, but one of them was not wanting to socialize with someone who would choose to lie about me. I can see Roddy feeling the same way, after seeing all the "He's the devil comments" and the devil horns coming not only from Danielle, but from people he considered to be his friends, like Lisa and Jason. That must have been an uncomfortable for him; I know it would be uncomfortable to me to try to be friendly with people who called me the devil behind my back. His comments about people still thinking he was trying to manipulate them outside of the game were very telling, to me. I think it's a shame that people in the house forget that their comments live on outside the house, and they still hold hurtful capacity long after they were made. |
Zachsmom | Monday, October 14, 2002 - 08:26 am     "Female fans may be happy to know that the flirtation never went far. Instead, it turned into a friendship, which is where is stands today, he said. " Hopefully this means he's single!!!
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Zachsmom | Monday, October 14, 2002 - 09:33 am     bump |
Ptomaine | Monday, October 14, 2002 - 09:48 am     Prisonerno6, Possible false information here, I don't recall an incident where Jason called Roddy the devil. So if you are making that assertion please cite from the transcript. Lisa, Marc, Amy, Dani, Gerry have called Roddy the devil. Interesting to note that he doesn't intend to be friend with Jason, whom he stated in the HOH session that he, Chiara and Jason has a special friendship outside of the game. |
Ptomaine | Monday, October 14, 2002 - 10:01 am     Keeping track of deviling: Also Chiara has also referred to Roddy as the devil. |
Prisonerno6 | Monday, October 14, 2002 - 10:17 am     I distinctly remember a conversation between Danielle and Jason in the bathroom where he did the devil horn thing in reference to Roddy, and a conversation where he said "the devil and the saint thing" in reference to someone nominating Jason and Roddy against each other. There were also numerous conversations in which he partcipated where someone referred to Roddy as the devil and Jason did not disagree. I can understand where "Silence gives consent" would apply to a conversation such as that. I would search the archives for specific instances, but I tried that once and found the lack of consistency in how LFPs referred to the houseguests make it nearly impossible (Jason can be Jason, J, Jay -- if someone is paraphrasing, it's difficult even to tell who is talking, sometimes). As for Chiara referring to Roddy as the devil, so? I think that goes to my point. The reports of the cast party have him being stand-offish from everyone -- including Chiara. |
Bastable | Monday, October 14, 2002 - 11:10 am     Danielle may have been unkind to call him the devil, but, as many have pointed out, lots of the HGs did that. Danielle didn't accuse Roddy of doing anything that he didn't actually do. Roddy toyed with everyone's insecurities in order to win the game. He found the single-biggest fear each person had an he poked at it with a sharp stick, poured lemon juice in it, and tried to make himself look like a saint. He was a nasty person for doing that. It's heartless to play on deep-seeded self-hatred for personal gain. HE made the game personal before Danielle even thought of it. No wonder he doesn't want to talk about it. His hands are dirtier than hers. |
Ptomaine | Monday, October 14, 2002 - 11:13 am     Prisonerno6, Main point: We can all make claims based on memory. To discuss whether or not something occurred we have to agree on a commont source. Short of the actual live feed clips, we have the LFPs. However, you can reject LFPs posting as inaccurate (left out a word, or mistaken speaker etc), incomplete (they missed the event), or any other reasons. And Jason can be "Jason", "J", "Jay" and "Ja" (which you left out BTW)... you can figure this out usually through context, and the LFPs make this clear most of the time. You can search for the word "devil" and go through all the listing, none of which points to Jason actually calling Roddy the devil. Relying on memory, I can say that: Yes, there are instances where Jason was silent during the deviling ("silence gives consent" is a matter of interpretation). There are also instances where Jason divert the conversation to other matters (candles i.e.) and 1 instance where Jason counters (the night when Roddy made his pitch to Lisa, then goes into to pitch to Dani... Roddy on the block). Regarding "Devil vs. Saint". I can only recall Amy referring to Chiara v. Jason, and not Roddy v. Jason. Click Here Finally, this is about reporting facts, and not heresay. What someone said or did not say comes down to fact. What they may or may not imply is open to interpretation. |
Oregonfire | Monday, October 14, 2002 - 12:58 pm     Imagined his grandfather sipping coffee next to him in the DR. >smirk< What a spin-meister. Maybe he should've imagined Chiara's future therapist sitting next to him in the HRD every time he started a sentence to Chiara with "And another thing you're awful at..." Okay, that is my one gratuitious not-so-shiny-and-happy comment about Roddy. |
Prisonerno6 | Monday, October 14, 2002 - 01:02 pm     This is not reporting at all, facts or hearsay. You seem to be saying that if it isn't in the LFPs, then it didn't happen. The LFPs, while entertaining, certainly wouldn't be considered fact in a court of law or even a journalism class. They are not a record of everything that went on in the house. They are simply a partial and biassed record of many things that went on in the house. I was merely trying to relate an example of something I experienced that shed some light *for me* on what Roddy may have experienced in the hosue. I notice that in your zeal to prove the Jason didn't call Roddy the devil, you didn't comment on my assertion that remaining silent while others do so is in essence the same thing. That was my point, after all, that Roddy may have been stand-offish at the cast party because people he considered his friends said such negative things about him behind is back. You and Bastable have done a lovely job of deflecting that point. Nicely done. |
Gina8642 | Monday, October 14, 2002 - 01:10 pm     Prisonerno6 I got your point and I think it is well made and makes sense. I agree - It really can bug a person to be mis-perceived. It is especially hurtful when someone spreads misperceptions about you maliciously. Even over minor matters. I got you, don't worry. |
Zachsmom | Monday, October 14, 2002 - 01:10 pm     You know Prisonerno6..I want to thank you for being honest in your posts about your feelings.. So many have forgotten that Roddy is a real live person with real emotions/feelings..and sometimes those feelings get hurt..just like mine do and yours do.. I enjoyed the article..I think he'll be just fine.. now..when he wants to finally find eternal happiness..he knows where to find me!(I think) lol.. |
Ptomaine | Monday, October 14, 2002 - 01:34 pm     Prisonerno6, Actually, I recognized that LFPs can be incomplete, refer to previous post: "However, you can reject LFPs posting as inaccurate (left out a word, or mistaken speaker etc), incomplete" which is a valid point, because there are cases where it is incomplete, inaccurate and additionally it can be biased. Secondly, I did comment on your assertion about silence being the same as consent, I stated that is a matter of opinion, which I am not at all interested in discussing. To clarify: I don't mean to say that I disagree with your comment, or agree with it... just that it boils down to opinion. Additionally, "the goal" is not to deflect "your point" nor was it to prove anything. I stated that what you claim was "possibly false" (note the word "possibly" here), and wanted to know from sources other than your memory that supported that specific claim. Jason may not have proven himself to be Roddy's friend by other actions, and Roddy may have other reasons to be stand-offish (and why is that necessarily bad anyway? or need to be light-shed? ). Finally, if you had doubts about LFPs, it would have been better for your argument to state that on your 2nd posts rather than: "I would search the archives for specific instances, but..." Here you are not attacking LFPs for accuracy, but on it being such a burden to weed out the many Jason references. That weakens the valid points that you made subsequently. |
Ptomaine | Monday, October 14, 2002 - 01:37 pm     I forgot to add "However, you can reject LFPs posting as inaccurate (left out a word, or mistaken speaker etc), incomplete (they missed the event), or any other reasons." I didn't mean this "you" to refer to you personally, it should have been better stated as "a person may", or "one". |
Curmutt | Monday, October 14, 2002 - 05:41 pm     Sheesh! Are we in a court of law where things must be proven and legal briefs be written? "...if you are making that assertion please cite from the transcript." Why should anyone have to cite from a transcript except a court reporter? This is a message board where opinions are exchanged. If someone feels that a HG is misrepresented, then that person may disagree without making demands of "proof." This molehill is simply a molehill and shouldn't be made into a mountain. |
Jane | Monday, October 14, 2002 - 06:36 pm     Bastable - Great post! "poured lemon juice in it" - great visual and so accurate. I like this part of the article: "The oddest part of the whole experience is that when everyone got together after the show ended, they all felt like the game was still on, he said. "It's amazing. Some still thought I was trying manipulate them," Mancuso said. " I wondered if he was talking about the end when they were all partying together and forgiving each other - (when they were "sequestered") and they arranged to all vote as a block. |
Ptomaine | Monday, October 14, 2002 - 07:53 pm     Curmutt, There is a difference between stating an opinion and claiming a fact. The person that Danielle looked out the most for in the game is Roddy (Opinion). Of all the HGs, she is the only one who did not call Roddy the devil (Supporting an opinion with a statement of "fact"). In this example we know that Danielle did call Roddy the devil, so the support to the opinion is false. This is what I am contesting. Prisonerno6's opinion is that Roddy was standoffish because people who he considered a friend (Lisa and Jason) deviled Roddy. The opinion can still be supported with Lisa alone. Lastly, court reporter's transcript are verbatim while LPFs are paraphrased and most of the time leave out some sentences to dialog, and therefore may not be reliable. So this doesn't mean that Jason did not deviled Roddy, it just means that Prisonerno6's assertion has no corroborating source. |
Misslibra | Monday, October 14, 2002 - 10:15 pm     It's good to hear from Roddy. And I'm glad he did find some lasting friendships, Lisa, Josh, Eric and Chiara. As for him saying his flirting with Chiara was just that and nothing more, he isn't telling us something we didn't know already. And as far as some of the HG's calling him the devil, it made them look bad not Roddy IMO. Out of all the HG's who might have called him the devil, we know who started it, and who completely ran it into the ground. |
Ryn | Monday, October 14, 2002 - 11:42 pm     Fluff piece..... lol Sorry - the way that guy demoralized Amy for not veto'ing him was what made me decide I really didn't care for him. I guess he was his true self in the house and I didn't like some of what I saw ;) He is a wonderful spin-meister though and I assume he was at the front of the Campaign for a 9-1 vote - lol. Notice the article said 100 days - Roddy was in the house for 62 days, it probably just felt like 100 to him |
Suitsmefine | Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 03:42 am     Ditto, Ryn. I think Roddy was every bit the manipulator the HG's thought him to be. He was cruel on a few occasions and he thought himself to be smarter than alot of the Hg's. But that is just my opinion... It was a game, pure and simple, they were all there to play, they each had their strategy and now they have to live with the results. I just do't understand why some people are making such a big deal about who's right and who's wrong...fortunately we still live in a free nation and can state our opinion ...What is this state the facts crape, the game is over, we all have our takes on the whole thing and that is what makes it fun, so please, if you want just the facts, watch some re-runs of Dragnet, or Court-TV!!!!! I for one just want the latest funny lines, updates on HG's and to have some fun discussing them with my friends here at TVCH! |
Curmutt | Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 04:07 am     Suitsmefine, I agree with you 100%! The game is over; let it rest in peace. Updates are always welcome. Amazing how some people can continue to beat a horse that's been dead over a month. Get over it! |
Sonia | Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 07:10 am     Richardfan, thanks a lot to share with us this new interview with Roddy. I appreciate it. |
Lurknomore | Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 08:43 am     I think this article just proves a point I have long held. I think some folks manipulate and use other people out of a direct strategy and they know they are doing it. I have always thought Roddy's manipulations were such a smooth and natural part of his style that I doubted he even realizes he does them. He just believes himself to be honest and sincere, and figures he gets ahead on his intelligence. Excuse me for a moment whilst I try to keep my coffe down. Seriously, I think what always bothered me about him was how truly out of touch the man was with his actions and deeds IMHO. I still say he perceives himself as a nice guy who just is great to everyone. Excuse me for same reason cited above. I would have hoped watching tapes of the show and maybe seeing the reactions of some sincerely good people, like Jason, might have had him do some soul searching but guess that was too much to hope for. But hey it's his life. He is welcome to live it however he pleases. Me personally...the man wouldn't make it as a friend of mine for an hour as is. Curmutt...inasmuch as this article is brand spanking new, it's discussing current events NOT beating a dead horse. But if I've said it once I'll say it again, no one forces anyone to read any thread or anything here or anywhere online. If this isn't your cup of tea why not find something that is and leave us to chat about this news??? I swear I don't get it. |
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