Mac OSX 10.2 (Jaguar) - compatible with RealOne beta?
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Mac OSX 10.2 (Jaguar) - compatible with RealOne beta?
Sanfranjoshfan | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:23 pm     OSX 10.2 (Jaguar) came out today and I was tempted to run out and get it....I know I will eventually, but this is a MAJOR OS upgrade and I was afraid it might not be compatible with RealOne beta for OSX. Anybody out there tried it yet?....any problems with RealOne?...any feedback or tips? |
Johnnydollar | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 11:28 am     I'm using RealOne with Jaguar on a brand new G4 DP tower. It looks terrific. I have noticed that at times trying to switch feeds it sometimes stalls out and I have to quite RP and then launch it again. But it launches fast, in just a second or two. So run out and get Jaguar...you won't be disappointed! |
Cwoody222 | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 04:02 pm     I was wondering the same thing - thanks for the resopnse, Johnny. (I'm awaiting for my copy of Jag to come from Amazon) |
Sanfranjoshfan | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 07:15 pm     Johnnydollar - Well, I insatlled OSX....and RealOne works fine. Overall, things are snappier (I have a G4/450 AGP with 1GB RAM)and it has a lot of new features, but I really need to install it from scratch...I was too lazy to go through all my configurations and preferences for all my apps, so I just installed it over my existing OSX 10.1. I have had a few freezes when trying the screensavers, and everytime I click the help button, I get the little spinning ball that never stops spinning. So I trashed a lot of freeware screensavers I had previously installed and that freeze problem MOSTLY stopped (although the only time it happened was when I was changing and testing screensavers, so it isn't an urgent issue). Over the last 17 months that I have been running OSX (starting with 10.0 and updated peridically till today's 10.2) I have never reinstalled it from scratch...something I did with 9x and previous OS versions at least a couple times a year! I am thinking that I have installed and uninstalled too many sharware/freeware pieces of crap in the last 17 months and that has messed something up, which is why it hangs in the screensaver control panel. (In fact, the ONLY system OSX freeze I have EVER had was about a month ago when I tried a shareware screensaver of a salt water aquarium...the screensaver was beautiful, but it froze my system...something that NO other software had done from March of 2001 til then! That is what probably messed up my screensaver control panel) In any case, when I feel like spending a lot of time on it, I'll just reinstall it all from scratch. In the meantime, it works with RealOne and I'm happy for now! :-) |
Johnnydollar | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:01 pm     Yes, a fresh install is recommended. I'm told the reason why the help file spins and spins the first time you open it is that it is decompressing files and downloading them from the internet. It will work much faster the next time. And RealOne works great with it. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 01:07 pm     A feined just sent me this hint regarding the slow opening of Help: "After a second call to AppleCare, the solution which worked for me was removing user/Library/Preferences/com.apple.help.plist which is preferences file which was apparently corrupt." I tried that and it seems to have worked....Help opens up very quickly now. |
Therlin | Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 01:44 pm     I did the "archive and install" option and my single processor 450 AGP G4 is working great! |
Sanfranjoshfan | Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 05:12 pm     Therlin - we have the same computer. :-) I SO wanna get one of those zoomin' dual 1GHZ processor babies! Not that I need it by any means....but it would be like going to get my mail in a corvette, not to mention that "new computer smell"! LOL Oh yeah...I somehow missed thew "archive and install" option and just update my ole OS....a few problems but not many....they mostly included old crappy thrid party screensavers I'd tried a year ago....Jaguar didn't seem to like them. But at least RealOne is still working! Too bad the Hg haven't been very exciting for a day or so. |
Cwoody222 | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 05:43 pm     Just installed Jag today. Not only does my RealOne work but for the first time EVER with OS X my RealPlayer 8 will work in Classic! Where was Jag when I lost my RealOne access a few weeks ago? ;) I have a 500 iMac...I see a bit of an increase. I MIGHT try this weekend to wipe OS9 from my system and do a fresh install of X just for the heck of it. I'm a bit unsure how to do that, though. Would anyone be willing to give me some pointers??? Basically I'm wondering how the heck Classic works if I ONLY install OS 10.2 since it doesn't come with OS 9. Will I still be able to install things like RealPlayer? How would I even go about such a task of installing 10.2 just like it was factory fresh? Would there be ANY way to save my MP3s and other important files? Would my non-Quartz extreme 500 really see that much of a difference? (I don't have much complaints now) |
Sanfranjoshfan | Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 01:49 am     Cwoody - I would think that might be a bogger job than you're ready for. I'm thinking of doing it, but am already stressed thinking of everything that will have to be reconfigured....all my Explorer preferences, favorites and all that stuff for every application, not to mention having to redo all the internet settings and my settings that network my G4 to my old 8500 PowerMac, etc... If you install OS 10.2 without installing OS9, then Classic will not work....you wouldn't be able to run any of your OS9 programs. You need an OS9 installation CD since it doesn't come with OS 10.2. You probably do have it on the software CD that came with your iMac 500. "Basically I'm wondering how the heck Classic works if I ONLY install OS 10.2 since it doesn't come with OS 9. Will I still be able to install things like RealPlayer?" I don't see how it can. RealPlayer 8 will only run on OS9....RealOne for OSX only runs on OSX. "Would there be ANY way to save my MP3s and other important files? " You would want to be sure and back them up separately (on a CDR or CDRW or a ZIP drive or something) so you could copy them back to your HD when you want to use them. "Would my non-Quartz extreme 500 really see that much of a difference? (I don't have much complaints now)" I honestly don't know....it depends on your graphics card. There was *some* improvement on my G4/450 AGP but not a whole lot. Personally, I would advise against reinitializing your HD and reinstalling everything from scratch unless you really know what you're doing or have a friend that's really handy to help you. I've been using a Mac since 1995 and am on my third one already....but I wouldn't attempt any big projects like that without knowing my Mac guru friend was near a phone! :-) The only reason I want to install it all fresh is because I started out with 10.0 in March of 2001, then over the last 17 months, I updated it to 10.01, then 10.02, then 10.03, then 10.04, then 10.5, then 10.1, then 10.1.5, meanwhile installing and uninstalling a lot of crappy beta stuff that has left junlk all over the place. I even did something majorly wrong about a year ago that totally screwed up my permissions and priveleges and messed up several things that I finally got back together (pretty much) with help from my Mac expert friend, but even that left some messed up files all over the place. (I I accidentally ran Norton Disk Doctor before it was ready for OSX and when it found problems I told it to "fix all" but since it wasn't OSX compatible, it actually "broke all"! It was a huge hassle and I still haven't reinstalled it all fresh yet....I have been waiting for Jaguar. So that's MY advice! If you do go ahead and do this, please don't think I am enough of an expert to get you out of any big jams. I was just getting to know the old Mac OS pretty well when OSX came out and it's entirely different and I had to start trying to figure it all out from scratch. Get an expert close to you and be sure they are ready to help you out....and if you do it, be sure to back everything up before you start! |
Cwoody222 | Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 03:25 am     Thanks for the advice. Maybe I won't do it ;) I had a pretty major crash a few weeks ago that caused me to reinstall 9 and 10 and then 10.1 and that was a pain. (and ended up with me losing stuff - but I had no choice) Since my initial hour or so with Jag I've rebooted (and stopped playing with EVERY program) and things are much snappier than earlier and even just a tad more than with 10.1. So maybe it's not even neccessary. I have literally less than 10 freeware programs installed so I don't think I have the problems you have with betas and junk. So, like I said - I think I'll leave it all alone. Thanks for the advice!!! |
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