If you said something neg about Roddy, you are a dope!
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If you said something neg about Roddy, you are a dope!
C1mag | Monday, October 28, 2002 - 04:43 pm     Cmore... I guess I'm bigger than that. If it were all about the kid and not me then I'd do it for the kid. I don't think I would rationalize.. "Gee he/she doesn't care for me on a crazy show so I'm not going to volunteer. Besides, they wouldn't want it anyway." We are talking about disliking a "celebrity"... given the chance to get to know the kid he/she may change their mind. This would be about service not ego. I'd do it for the kid. As charming as Roddy comes off in his own eyes, I'm sure he of all people believes he could turn those tables of hate around. That is if he is there for a dying child and not for himself. And by the way... This isn't so much about him visiting or contacting terminally ill children as it is mentioning it publically as a personal pat on the back for himself. The writer did not ask... So what have you been up too? Roddy willingly wanted the reader to know this. Now the question would be why? The answer is obvious. Self promotion and grandstanding! It's tacky. The writer never wrote.. "We hear you are volunteering for a local childrens hospice" He offerred the info with a pat on the back and a quick dig at those who don't see him as so golden. It was further insulting to the reader to include these kids liked him on the show which came accross as the real motivation for taking the time in the first place seeing as how he couldn't have done this a couple of months back without the strange fame. I think what he is doing is great. How he presented it publically didn't go over well with me at all and thats ok. So do I blame the writer? I don't know about that. I think the writer was a little taken back at his ability to pacify his own ego with the comment "They liked me on the show" Otherwise I think the writer would not have put it in parenthesis. It's a Roddy thing. You may like the guy but he'd still shock you the way he willingly announces what a great guy he is! He is his own walking cheering section. Those of us that watched him on the show heard daily his self praise. For those that didn't watch and hear him it would be a bit of a shock to listen to his ego. For me it was typical and this time around at the expense of ill children. |
Shortnsweet | Monday, October 28, 2002 - 04:56 pm     C1mag, I have a question - What do you think Roddy did when he went to visit the terminally ill children? I have no idea what someone would do. I thought maybe a celebrity could put some excitement in a child's life by visiting them, but I am not sure if there is something that a "regular" person could do by visiting a terminally ill child. |
Zachsmom | Monday, October 28, 2002 - 06:51 pm     C1mag wrote: The writer did not ask... So what have you been up too? The paragraph in question from the article states:So what exactly does come after Big Brother - besides some negative press? sound to me like "What have you been up to?" Not exact phrase..but close enough..if someone asked "what comes (came) after your time on big brother" I would take that as "What have you been up to" The rest of the paragraph states: "Well, Roddy has had an opportunity he says he would never have passed up. He said, "I've had a chance to get in touch with terminally ill children (who liked me on the show)," I read on AmyCrews.com that she also has been in contact with some sick children through Make a Wish..they contacted her..they liked her on the show..sounds about what Roddy did. and it goes on to say and even tomorrow, I'm going to a children's ward to see some sick little guys. It really is the best thing I've ever had a chance to do in my life. I think that tell a lot about a person..to state the best thing that ever happened to him was spending time with terminally ill children. I know my best time in my life has been with my own child..so I understand his statement.. then the ending sentence.. "A few months ago I could not have done this, so a few dopes on the internet seems like a small price to pay." Hmmm..doesn't say "everyone who said something negative about me IS a dope..just a few..he probably threw in the guy who was impersonating him with the dope catagory..so that leaves about 2 people that he calls a dope..whoopie!!! I don't know why he states that he wouldn't have had the opportunity before the show to do this..perhaps "Make a wish" and charities like them really don't have a high demand for "regular" people to have the children ask to meet them..<shrug- guess I can stop waiting by the phone hoping make a wish has a high demand for me to visit a terminal children> I still don't see how he has exploited any child..and I see the question about Amy stating she was also visiting terminal children and is she exploiting children has gone unanswered.. wonder why? |
Ilovewill | Monday, October 28, 2002 - 08:20 pm     Thank you zachsmom! |
Misslibra | Monday, October 28, 2002 - 11:05 pm     C1mag I can get even mushier by hugging everyone in this thread. I never saw where Roddy said everyone who ever said a negative thing about him was put down by him or called a dope. And I certainly didn't come away thinking that after reading that article. This story just keeps growing and growing way out of proportion me thinks. We understand some of you can't stand Roddy. We got that already. Maybe we should all try to dwell more on the positive of the article and not on the negative. |
C1mag | Monday, October 28, 2002 - 11:14 pm     Sorry Zachsmom I don't read it that way AT ALL! Lets be a bit more specific. The author never says.. "We hear Roddy has been contacting and visiting terminally ill children" The whole article was set up for self praise with the line that you took and highlighted yoursef.."Besides negative press" .. In other words, get ready to hear Roddy cheer Roddy on. Now what did Roddy decide to offer up as praise for Roddy? To me Roddy was saying... See, look what I do with ill kids who like me, so screw those people who say negative things about me. It's the same Roddy montra from his own mouth.. "I'm a nice guy, and heres why you should think I'm a nice guy and if ya don't like me you're a dope." It's sad that he needed to mention it along with the negative image he has recieved by some. It makes it appear as if he is using his service as a platform of self praise. It would have been great if the author had mentioned it as acquired general information and then left it at that. I would have thought much higher of him. I have no doubt his servcie has touched him. That really isn't a question. About Amy and her service to ill children: ... If it did come from Amy, did the information include that although she is not liked by some she is great and here is why she is great? And then include the information about the service to ill children? I don't think it was structured that way at all. There's the difference. No grandstanding on Amys part at the expense of ill children. It's a tough pill to swallow that Roddy is indeed nothing but a self back patting fake that would even use time contacting or visiting terminal children as a means to publically cheer himself on. In fact he wouldn't even see it that way. Just like some of his fans. It's just sad. I cannot join his band wagon of self praise on this act of kindness because I don't like his presentation on the subject. |
Risa | Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 02:15 am     Thank you C1. Just when I was getting mad and ready to reply, you said it all for me. Right you are, double right you are. |
Babsbunny3 | Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 06:51 am     Wouldn't it be nice if we could talk to those children? The terminally ill ones. We could say, look kids...there's this debate you see...its all about the Rodster. Now don't you think he had a lotta nerve mentioning that he is working w/ children? What a sneaky jerk! *sheesh* All I have to say is devil or no devil Roddy is a hotass. I seriously doubt he will contaminate the world or even his own tiny community w/ his devilishness. LOL. I must admit he has devilish good looks. And I like that name. *Roddy.* I just can't get passionate about the whole roddy is evil thing. The guy didn't kill anybody for crying out loud. It was a game...and a game that is structured to facilitate devious behaviour. Believe me if no one in the house used devious behaviour we wouldn't have a 2nd and 3rd season. |
Zachsmom | Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 08:18 am     "Lets be a bit more specific." Okay...let's..(I don't see how we can be specific since neither one of us were in the room when the interview took place..but I'll play along) " The author never says.. "We hear Roddy has been contacting and visiting terminally ill children" " No she doesn't (I am going to have to go back and see if the author is indeed female) "The whole article was set up for self praise with the line that you took and highlighted yoursef.."Besides negative press" .. " Ummmm..did Roddy write the article or did someone go talk to him for a while and put into words her opinion/take on what he said? If anyone set anything up I would say it was the author..You and I have no clue as to what the author asked verbatim and what Roddy answered verbatim.. "In other words, get ready to hear Roddy cheer Roddy on. " I am sorry..I didn't see that..but generally..when one is writing an article about someone it's usually positive..I mean it does say BESIDES negative press..what is the opposite of negative? POSITIVE!!! So of course we are going to hear about the positive..I would question the authors abilites as a writer if she included negative events.. "Now what did Roddy decide to offer up as praise for Roddy? " Ummm..I didn't read anything that could construed as praise for Roddy from Roddy..I saw Roddy stating that visiting ill children has been the highlight of his life! How can that be taken as praise? This whole next paragraph we are going to have to agree to disagree because obviously we don't see it in the same way.. "To me Roddy was saying... See, look what I do with ill kids who like me, so screw those people who say negative things about me. It's the same Roddy montra from his own mouth.. "I'm a nice guy, and heres why you should think I'm a nice guy and if ya don't like me you're a dope." It's sad that he needed to mention it along with the negative image he has recieved by some. It makes it appear as if he is using his service as a platform of self praise. " Now this I do have a question on.. "It would have been great if the author had mentioned it as acquired general information and then left it at that. I would have thought much higher of him." So why do you blame Roddy for what the author decided to write about? And put it in her own words? "I have no doubt his servcie has touched him. That really isn't a question." Glad you at least see that.. "About Amy and her service to ill children: ... If it did come from Amy, did the information include that although she is not liked by some she is great and here is why she is great?" No..but we don't know if the writer decided to exclude that do we? "And then include the information about the service to ill children? I don't think it was structured that way at all. There's the difference. No grandstanding on Amys part at the expense of ill children. " Amy didn't write the article..again..you are placing a writers view on a houseguest..Here's the article from amycrews.com Before she went to LA, she helped grant a wish for the Make-A-Wish Foundation. There was a girl of 15 who dreamed of seeing her Aunt again but she lived in San Diego. The Memphis Chapter of Make-A-Wish granted her wish and they had a little celebration in Memphis. Amy was the host and she introduced the wish, and played a video for the girl. On the video was her Aunt talking about her pending visit and how nice it would be to see her. Amy said it was very sweet and everyone was crying. Afterwards, they presented Amy with a book called "Through the Eyes of a Wish" showing all the children who had their wishes answered and all the volunteers signed it for. She was very touched. It's a tough pill to swallow that Roddy is indeed nothing but a self back patting fake that would even use time contacting or visiting terminal children as a means to publically cheer himself on. You haven't proved that..that is just your opinion..your opinion is not fact. In fact he wouldn't even see it that way. uh..why should he see you opinion of him as truth? You aren't him..you don't even know him personally.. Just like some of his fans. that's why they call them fans..see Roddy fans know he has faults..we know he is human and makes mistakes..yet we don't try and drag him through the mud because of them.. It's just sad. why? I cannot join his band wagon of self praise on this act of kindness because I don't like his presentation on the subject. so again..you are attributing to Roddy what an author of an article presented.. |
Bailey | Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 09:30 am     Is this still a fan club site? Is this the same site that cutoff discussion about a Danielle interview a couple of weeks ago but is allowing all this Roddy bashing to continue? Big Brother ended over a month ago.. and yet it seems we find it necessary to go outside the game and disect & put down a fellow human being for some unknown reason. This no longer is game play.. and in my very humble opinion, it is turning out to be downright mean-spirited and unfair. After all this country has experienced over the past 14 months.. don't you think expending your energies on people that are truly evil in this world would be more gratifying, instead of focusing on one houseguest whose path you certainly will never pass again in this lifetime? I'm sorry.. but this has gotten so out of hand.. I just can longer keep quiet about it anymore. |
Paris | Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 02:57 pm     I just quickly skimmed over these posts but to clarify, Roddy didn't ask me to write anything about him visiting the terminally ill children. He mentioned that it was one of the things he's had a chance to do since leaving the show. Since the article was originally intended for my parenting website, I included it. That's really the only reason. He actually didn't ask me to write anything specific. I don't see it being self-gratification on his part and since I was in the conversation, I can tell you that it wasn't intended that way. And I'm sorry to see that some of you think it was. Also, considering I am the only one who wrote about the visits (and I write parenting articles), it can't be that well publicized. The only reason it was in that article was to tie it into the theme of my website - parenting. I figured it would be of interest to the readers at my site. Anyway, I doubt that will change anyone's mind but this discussion was brought to my attention today so I just thought I would try and clarify. Carry on, sorry to interrupt. :0) Oh, and hockey players ARE Gods!!! LOL Have fun and listen to Bailey, he/she is right. :0) Paris |
Toolhound | Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 03:36 pm     I agree with Bailey. |
C1mag | Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 03:39 pm     Come on Paris!! Who would miss on the opportunity to report that the man called "The devil" is now contacting terminally ill kids? You quoted the man!! When you quoted him it became "self gratification" on his part. He just threw this stuff out there as a "friend?" He knew exactly what he was saying, knew exactly who he was saying it too, and he knew exactly where it would end up. Didn't you watch the show on the Internet? Every word this man utters is for a purpose. His image was a daily thing with him to the point where he would verbally attack someone like Chiara if she challenged his integrity. The man pulled a drunk Amy into the dr too praise him after he worked her over for about 3 hours. The man needs validation on the one place where he has recieved the harshest criticism. On the Internet. Right where he knew the article would end up. What he is doing is a good thing. How he goes about presenting it is sad. It was an interesting article. In fact it made me laugh. I think it's great that you've stopped by. I don't believe for one second that your article isn't laden with Roddys self gratification. He knew exactly what he was saying. The man is very private and only offers up info he wants out there. You either take the bait or not. Not your fault at all!! I'm sure your telling of this info was intended for nothing more than entertainment. Zachsmom.... You are too funny!! GET OVER IT!! All you did was keep pointing out that you think the glass is half empty and I think it's half full. hahahaha you could have saved your fingers the time. We disagree on this issue. Pureloves comic outlook on Roddy the man is probably where you stand as a fan. Its jaded. Theres nothing wrong in that at all. I think the man is a self back patting fake who will use anyone in order to save face. Even the above author was used and she/he probably doesn't even realize it. He knew whatever key information he gave the author would end up right on the Internet. He's not a dumb man. He's a slick cookie. You like him. I don't. You see him as some giving, charmer. I see him as a fake. It's ok. It's called diversity baby! |
Zachsmom | Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 03:46 pm     I cannot believe you were that insulting to the author of the article.. |
C1mag | Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 03:48 pm     Zachsmom: Not insulting at all. I praised the person for the entertainment. Just disagreed with them. Do you read letters to your local newspaper editor? They are full of responses disagreeing with articles they have published. Is that insulting? I do think when you quote someone it is self gratification. Thats insulting to mention that? Hmmmm... Yeah I guess this topic has been beat into the ground. It was a good discusion !! |
Fanny | Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 04:04 pm     <drags Zmom outta the cesspool...toward the light, Zmom...toward the light> |
Bastable | Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 04:13 pm     I've become convinced that no Danielle/Roddy discussion is purely about that. For some metaphysical reason, people seem to use the debate to vent all sorts of buried fury that hides in their day-to-day lives. That's why I've left the discussion alone. The venom that some posters feel comfortable spewing just makes me sad for them. I don't mind talking about the show for years to come---but not this way. |
Shortnsweet | Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 05:11 pm     Bastable, I have enjoyed so much of the post show discussions, but I agree with your statements. Actually the post show discussions have helped me to dislike Dani less (if that makes sense). I really hated Dani and I was really mad at Roddy for the way he treated Amy, but now I see them as human beings who make mistakes just like me! And I feel bad for them when people go out of their way to bash them. |
Ilovewill | Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 05:23 pm     c1mag, So Amy knew telling Willow what she was doing would end up on the internet so she did it for self-gratification also? Why not bash Amy for that! I think your strong dislike of Roddy is clouding your judgement on this. Even the author came to clarify and you pass it off as her being brain washed by Roddy. Maybe your hate for Roddy has taken over you. No offense. But you know its true. I am sure you will not admit it though so goodluck to you. I hope that you do not let some character on TV fill you with so much hate or "strong dislike". Peace |
Whit4you | Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 06:41 pm     I've finally figured out that Roddy-haters are actually Roddy-puppets... and it's amusing to watch them unable to pull themselves away from the control Roddy has over them. LOL. Paris - thank you for sharing your thoughts here - clearly Roddy bashers will use anything to bash him that's how desperate they are in their rabbit hole to find a way to twist someone being good as 'evil' I'm sorry they've chosen to use your article in such a fashion but it's out of sheer desperation, so don't take it personally. |
Moderator | Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 07:16 pm     sigh.. this thread is closed. (K) |
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