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TV ClubHouse: Archive: USA 2002: - LIVE FEEDS -: Big Brother III Archive of Live Feeds (USA): Big Brother III - July 2002 Live Feed Archives: Day 14 - Food Competition - Josh & Tonya Nom.: Archive through July 19, 2002

Grannygrunt

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 07:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
mar is talking about not an easy thing. tonya hugs mar. lisa went to bed to hug a pillow. not tonya and gerry hug. tonya says someone will not campaign agaisnt her. eric hugs mar. tells him he knew it so hard. gerry says gonna get a lot tougher. eric says none of this sh!t will interfere with their friendship. mar. tells josh he's sorry for being catty. eric is explaining to the girls that at first nom's are hard but after a few days things will get better. chiara and tonya are smoking. dani is out there now. they talk about cooking dinner. mar back out and gerry goes to sit with him. mar says it didn't come to him until he went into his room and played his song then it came to him what to do. different equations. put up josh? mar said how we need to play this game. gerry ask was there a reason for why he put the keys in. but no there was no reason. not sending any message. except the message he said. this can be beautiful and kind. mar has had his tv time and his mind his clear and he got to say what he wanted to. talk about jason's morals. dani was a wreck. gerry says she hates this stuff. tonya is also nom.

Skeldragon

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 07:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Looks like Chiara is having a cigarette...has something in her hand. Eric say give me one of those, no he's just joking. He says that all the time.

Girls go inside to help cook. Marc and Gerry sitting at the table.
Marc - well now you know

Gerry - I kind of figured you'd play it that way

Marc - it didn't come to me until I put on my headphones, I was listening to my music and then it came to me out of the blue.

Marc - you take him out of the equation, put that person in, put that person in, and it came to the same thing. he would still be there. If things don't play out the way I wanted it, at least I was able to tell everyone up front and out loud how I think we should play this game.

Gerry - what Eric just said to you spoke volumes
Did you put the keys in any particular order?

marc - no, I chose to put the keys in just as I drew them. Not trying to send any messages, I asked people not to come to me to put their .02 cents in, amazingly people did...fine...but I wasn't trying to send any message in that moment other than the message I said...we can be here together and do this, it can be beautiful and it can be kind

Gerry - ironically now, if it plays the way we want to, I can go out anytime after this

marc - me either...had my tv time, had my moment

Gerry - we got our ethics clear. It would be horrible if Jason was the next HoH...how the heck is he going to do that? Truly, the most moral person in the household, to my mind. To have to do that...you know

Gerry - Danielle was a wreck. She just hates this, just hates this concept...

Marc - even though I nominated Tonya (!)...plane, can't hear, posting

Dale3forever

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 07:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gerry and Marcellas talking outside,

Tonya and Josh are nominated

Spygirl

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 07:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Camera 4 (i'm here for about a 1/2 hour of so)

Josh, Lisa, Jason, Danielle, Tonya, Amy, and Roddy in the kitchen.

Tonya: Whatever happens happens. I'll get to wear my good outfit. I'll have to come up with a speech to tell everybody.

Commence talking about food. Jason jokes about having wahed his hands before dicing the tomatoes.

Tonya: so there is a veto when?

some discussion. No idea when.

Danielle joking about being pulled out of the pool into the diary room. Danielle laughing about what her husband must say about her going into the DR like that.

Amy says she is going to make tea. Josh says that they have some and Amy tells him that isn't real tea (instant). He says "Oh god". (joking manner)

Continued cooking. (No others on this feed at all)

Grannygrunt

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 07:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
talks about their actions on camera. gerry is worried about sleeping tonight. he thinks josh may come after him. they talk about knife guy last year. (have to run. hope someone is out there)

Skeldragon

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 07:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Marc - that crazy guy with the knife got no air time last year...Josh thinks this is his tonight show moment, if he hopes to have anything happen outside of this out, he better not

Gerry - you were so elegant, don't worry about it. You were soft spoken, at the risk of sounding trite, you were very butch..you know a masculine way

Marc - that's what I was hoping for. Like Heddy f'n Lamar

Gerry - it wasn't real queen. You are a proud black gay man, so go with it. We helped establish that for you, go for it.

Marc - it's not about the stupid game, all the fame and fortune, wealth you can get from it...if you compromise yourself and your integrity to win this game, you have nothing but the money to walk away with. If he's willing to sit and explain what he's done to this point, I'd be willing to talk to him.

Gerry - you have no idea what's waiting for you when you get out of here - he has no idea. I know my family. Sticking up for you..

Spygirl

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 08:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
TOO much talking at once -- can't decipher everything.

Finally, feed cuts to bedroom. Tonya, Chiara, and Eric are in there discussing the nominations.


Eric: Jason would vote for Tonya because she is a girl.

Chiara: Gerry is gonna vote Josh out right away.

Josh knocks on the door and the conversation turns to normal stuff. Talking about eating PB&J. Tonya says they aren't allowed in the storage room. Discussing some PB&J options.


Tonya (to Josh): what are you thinking?

Josh: That it was really smart because there is no way i'm campaigning against you. More power to him -- this was a predetermined thing. I think he didn't give it much thought. (something about Danielle and how Marsellas touched her am about 8 times during his nomination speech)

Tonya: so say someone does get veto and uses it. Who will they do?

Eric: Me, Chiara, or Lisa.

Eric: I think any business conducted needs to be not seen at all. Almost to the point where...

Josh: Here is where we went wrong... the reason dani told me she aligned wiht Gerry is because she felt cut out. She has got mars ear. HGerry obviously has marsellas's ear, too.

TIME OUT ARRRGGGHHH

Skeldragon

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 08:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
In bedroom..Tonya asks Josh what he's thinking

Josh - that was really smart, but there's no f'n way I'm campaigning against you...I don't think he gave it that much thought...when Dan came up and said power of veto, he touched her arm about 8 times..

Tonya - so if he gets power of veto and somebody saves you, then what?

Eric - me, or roddy or Lisa..anyone he thinks is in this alliance. anything with this alliance has to not be seen at all

Josh - the reason Danielle told me, even though she aligned with Gerry...she knows, she's got Marc's ear, Gerry obviously has Marc's ear

Eric - Gerry's going anyway, very soon

Josh - Gerry will be out before me I knew I was nominated because that camera in the kitchen, never moved directly on me the entire time. He told at least Danielle immediately that I was up. He told me days ago that 5 people came to him and told him I instigated the whole thing against him...nothing but hell bent on getting rid of me. His whole speech was nothing more than lip sync...predetermined. What he said to you (T) was smart...I thought Roddy would be nominated. Clearly he knows he needs 5 full votes because the tie breaker will go to him and I'll be out.

Realplayer crashed :-(

Spygirl

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 08:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
(eric is gone now)

Josh: His whole speech was totally predetermined. He was so smart to nominate you against me. Clearly he knows I need 5 votes because the tie-breaker goes to him.

Chiara: I'm pissed that one of us didn't get this HoH. We really needed it. We really needed it. It sucks.

Tonya: there is nothing we can do now.

(silence)

Ch: It is just upsetting. F*cking upsetting.

(long silence)

Josh: He said in that speech that I undercut him. He still doesn't believe what happened in the meeting (?). He probably struggled with the choice between you and someone else (Tonya).

Tonya: Nah. Who does he see you with most? Me. I think he feels bad about it, but I think it was the easiest choice because I'm the closest to you.

Josh: That's why I ddin't want to really hang out with anyone because I knew if he saw us together...

Tonya: He already knew though. It was too late.

Josh: clearly Danielle...I mean not for nothing (!!)...for her to align with Gerry tells you how alienated she felt. Even though I was the only one who included her in everything...she turned it against me.

switch to PB&J again. Josh is leaving to go get them food.

Ch: are you sad about josh?
Tonya: yeah. If anyone else gets the veto, I think they'll probably leave it, too. I understand why marsellas did it. And that's the whole thing -- the game gets harder as it goes on.

Ch: Yeah

Tonya: You just never know. You know, I'll be able to have sex after this (leaving).

Ch: If one of us doesn't get HoH next week, we're F*cked. Cause even the power of Veto won't save us.

Tonya: Cause now we know they are in their own alliance.

Ch: I feel like we should get Jason to come over. Get him into it.

Tonya: Yeah.

Ch: We have him in this room...

#### (missed some)

Ch: We have to get Jason in.

Tonya: that'll be easy. Unless he is already with them. I mean, he voted against Amy.

Ch: Well, he might have just for the money.

Tonya: right. He wasn't really close with either one of them.

Ch: I think he is closest to us, though. He loves Roddy to death. And he loves me and he loves you.

Tonya: He is always helping me do laundry.

Josh brings in their sandwhich and Chiara's water and leaves.

They are laughing about it being the messiest and heaviest sandhwhich they've ever seen.

Skeldragon

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 08:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Josh - so predetermined...he probably struggled with the choice between you and some other people.

T - I don't think he did...who does he see me with the most? You. Who came in here and helped me when I was feeling sick today? Don't you think?

Josh - absolutely, absolutely. that's why I didn't really want to hang out with anyone, it would put them in the position to bring me down.

Chiara - that was already here I think

Josh - it's funny, Danielle...she's so got his ear. She feels really...for her to align with Gerry tells you how alienated and left out she felt. When I tried to include her in anything, she totally used it against me.

Chiara - I need something. some peanut butter or something...

Josh - do you want me to get you something and bring it in here? T, do you want anything

goes out to kitchen to get the girls food

Chiara - how are you feeling?

T - about Josh?

Ch- yeah...if anyone in the alliance gets the veto, you know..leaving ourselves up for something

T - I know, if anyone else gets it too, they'll just leave it...that's the thing, it just gets harder as it goes on.

Chiara - yep, yep...

T- I'm thinking, I'll be able to have sex after this

Chiara - you're not going anywhere

T - I don't think so either, but you never know

Chiara - if one of us doesn't get H0H next week, we're f*ckd. Even the power of veto isn't going to save us

T - they're all in their alliance too...although I think some are stronger than others

Chiara - I think we should get Jason into it. Talk to Roddy, once we don't have Josh. Where are the boys?

T - eating

T - well we're losing Josh or me...that's one out of the team.

Chiara - we have to get Jason in, have to keep the 6 strong

T - I think it'll be easy..but maybe he's already with them. I think he voted against Amy.

Chiara - he might have, just for the money

T - he was up in the morning with Lori

chiara - I think he's closer to us though. He loves Roddy to death.

Josh comes in with some pb&J and water for the girls. He leaves again. They laugh about what he's brought them...what is this? it's like the heaviest, creamiest...smacking noises.

Chiara - are you sure you heard Roddy say that? Are you just making it up?

T - no why would I make it up? Lisa heard it too...you guys were talking about how many people you've been in love with...he said maybe 2, could be 3 not sure. It's kind of like an inkblot you look at changes from day to day. I asked if he was calling our Chiara an inkblot and he just kind of smiled...and Lisa heard it!

Chiara - I so hope they have that on tape...others though, it could have been three.

T - I took it as him teeter tottering...could go either way at this point. Even Jason said it, your heart belongs to Roddy. It was so cute.

BB is going to talk to me about the nom..I have to think of something to say so I don't look like an idiot. I totally understand why he did it...I don't feel bad. It's a game, I'm totally fine with it.

Chiara - Josh is going to be gone, I don't wanna see that but...

T - they have Gerry and Danielle already...if somebody else was up, like Roddy, who knows where it would go then. I kept thinking what if they put Josh and Lisa or Josh and Eric and I got the veto vote...and that's the position you guys are in. I just wouldn't use it.

Chiara - I'll just make an enemy if I remove Josh.

Spygirl

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 08:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ch: are you sure you heard Roddy say that?

Tonya: yes!!

Ch: so what did he say exactly?

Tonya: So you guys were talking about how many people you've been in love with and he said "could be three...I don't know, i keep going back and forth. It is like an ink blot... you look at it one day and it looks different than it does the next." So, I asked him if he was calling our chiara and ink blot and he sorta nodding his head.

(more discussion about Chiara and Roddy)

Tonya: gosh, julie is gonna talk to me on nomination night. I have to think of something to say so I don't look like an idiot. I always look like an idiot.

Ch: Just say that you understand why Marsellas had to do what he had to do.

Tonya: And I do.

Ch: I can't believe Josh is gonna be gone.

### (missed some)

Tonya: Like if it were me an Roddy up...who knows where it would go then. I wondered what would happen if he put two people up together and then I won the power of Veto...what would I do? I mean, that is the position you guys are in (PP)

#

Ch: At the end of the day, it is a game. I'm not making enemies.

Tonya: True. It was so weird, I heard him say (lights go out -- bb) that when he went around and talked to everyone, I thought -- he didn't talk to me.

Ch: I thought he'd put you up. When I knew it would be Josh, I thought you, me, or Lisa.

Tonya: Did he talk to you?

Ch: Nope. He didn't talk to me.

Tonya: So does this air tomorrow night?

Ch: What is today? It'll be Saturday.

Tonya: And Wednesday will be the Veto. And then Thursday...voting...

#

Tonya: That sucks. What am I gonna wear?

(I'm here for 15 more minutes - switching feeds)

Surini

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 08:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I can take Cam 1 for while to help....

Cam 1:
Gerry, Danielle, Marc outside.
Plane going over.
Win or lose we can move frwd with this.
Asks Danielle to go to his room and let him know if what he did was right or wrong.
They go inside to the kitchen where all are fixing supper.
Mar asks Amy to come here and she says busy cooking. Amy says in a minute.
Cam goes to HOH bedroom. Marcel getting drinks out of his fridge.
He brought out a beer for Amy, now they're joking that now A will pay attention to him. Roddy comments that Amy looks beautiful (might have been Jason).
Marcel tells Lisa he wants word with her later if he may.
Marcel, Lisa, Amy heading for living room couch. Bringing over food to the coffee table. Roddy , Jason, Amy, Lisa and Marcel sitting at couch to eat.
Eating tacos.
Marcel says he used to eat tacos and Seagram. Amy says she was always a Taco Bell girl.
Josh in kitch alone fixing his tacos.
Talking about the food.
Lisa says are we missing people and they say, yeah Josh.
Josh joins them. Lisa said she never thought she'd be sitting around drinking beer but it's nice. (beers came from Marcel's fridge)
Roddy toasts Josh and wishes him luck with what's going to be happening (Marcel nominating him). He says "what happens happens".
Mostyly they are just talking about the food still.
The group is just happy they are going to be able to eat after the food competition earlier. Marcel is saying he was glad he wasn't a part of it and didn't have to worry about it.
Marcellus is saying you almost have to let yourself go into every neighborhood so you can see who you don't want to be.
Complimenting Roddy on the tacos he made.
Lisa mentioning about having to eat the brownies at 9 or 10 in the morning and she's just greatful they didn't have to put on their bathing suits too.
Lisa says she has had trouble buttoning her pants.

Aremid

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 08:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gerry tells Mar that he was so eloquent
Mar - if he can sit down and explain to me why he has done all the things he has to this point i would be willing to listen
Gerry - ...I was telling Jason, getting that power of veto was one of those bolts of lightning in my life, what they didn't tell me was how tought it could be
Mar discusses his reasons for choosing who he did
Mar things they may rise up to protect her
Mar - .... it becomes more about putting up the people that are standing in your way, then it becomes more of what the game is about, not lying, backstabbing, cheating
Gerry-.. in my life it is not often I can meet somebody and say -you are smarter than I am
Gerry - am I'm a pretty smart mf myself
Gerry - Hey Miss Dani how are you
Gerry - are you going to go in there when anybody else eats
Gerry- I'm not going in to eat, but I'm not being anti social
Dani- no it is embarrassing for them to eat the food
Gerry, - Amy can I talk to you
Amy - yeah, but I'm cooking
Gerry- I don't want to be anti-social
Danielle - nono
The three of them discuss having to eat peanut butter
Dani - are you eating tacos
Mar - I'm not eating meat, but I'm going to eat with the people in the food group, but I'm gonna eat with the person I did what ever I did too, and let him have his moment
Mar - I hope he got the point of what I was trying to say, I hope that win or lose we can all move forward from this
Mar goes in
Mar - what is happening in here ya'll
AMy - we talked and had a good time
Mar - come here little one
Amy - I'm cooking Mar
Amy - Let me make my tea ok
Mar- Amy, do your thing, this is a very stressful moment
Mar goes into the HOH room and gets something from the frig and then comes to the kitchen
Mar- Amy I have a beer for you hon
Amy - Marcellas!
Mar- now I get some love
Amy- Where did you get this
Mar - Josh theres beer if you want one
Mar, Lisa, and Amy move to the couches
Lisa - We've got some extra beer going on
Jason joins them - Roddy joins them also
They are eating tacos
Josh is in the kitchen,
Roddy - a suggestion, Amy are ya'll gonna slug down all the beer or save one for another night
Amy - I may only drink one
Josh comes in, and makes a taco
Male - we got every single thing we needed, but salsa
They toast to Tonya and Josh
Amy mentions having a day
MAr- there are some people at this table Amy who've had a day and you sit there talking
Amy - I'm sorry
Mar - we're not picking on you
Amy - don't
(they are joking)
(Can see Gerry and Eric talking outside through the window)
Roddy- if you guys want it there is a ton of meat left, there are like 12 tacos
Lisa - we better pace ourselves, we might have another competition
They are glad they didn't have to do it in their bathingsuit
Mar - eat the giant cookie and be weighed in your swimsuit - can you imagine?
They joke about being weighed and measured in swimsuits

Spygirl

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 08:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Feed #1

Josh, Lisa, Roddy, Marsellas, Jason, and Amy in the living room.

Everyone eating tacos and drinking beer. They have the skillet of food sitting on the coffee table.

Jason: 15 minutes was a long time. A long time.

Lisa: It sure was.

Roddy: That's why our crew was just standing around.

Marsellas: (mocking Roddy) "now is not the time to be pushing people, Marsellas!"

Roddy (Laughing): I was looking out for the team.

(food discussion continues)


Marsellas: Amy, if you want my beer, you can have it. I'm not drinking.

Amy: Thank you.

Lisa: Can i have some lettuce please? That i cut waaaay too much of? (laughs)


Amy and Marsellas in the kitchen now...

Amy: I'm not PMsing, but my chemical levels are --

FOTH

Kar

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 08:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bedroom
Cam 3.
8:14

CHIARA: We have to get Jason in.
TONYA: That’ll be easy, I think.
CHIARA: I think he’s closest to us though, He loves Roddy to death. He loves me, he loves you.

(Josh come in with a plate of food -- PBJ.)

CHIARA: it’s like the heaviest creamiest… Are you sure you heard Roddy say that or are you making it up.
TONYA: Why would I make it up.
TONYA: You guys were talking about people you’ve been in love with, how many times, whatever, he said, “It could be three, I don’t know… he said it’s like an inkblot you look at it today and it’s different than before. So I asked if he was calling our Chiara an inkblot. And you know how he smiles, and then Lis heard it.
CHIARA: What the f** am I eating here?
TONYA: I think it’s cause he keeps teeter-tottering like he is, or he’s not sure. Your heart belongs to Roddy.
TONYA: Julie’s gonna talk to me on nom night, and I have to think of something so I don’t sound like an idiot. I really don’t feel bad, I told Marcellus it’s a game and I’m fine with it. Really.
CHIARA: you know Gerry and Danny are already… I kept thinking what if they put up Josh and Lisa or Josh and Chiara and I think it’s whacko and that’s the position you guys are in.

(The PBJ isn’t making Chiara sound very coherent).

CHIARA: At the end of the day, it’s a game. I’m not making enemies. Uh-uh.
TONYA: That was so weird cause I heard him say ‘Thank you.” I heard when he said that he went out and talked to everyone and I was thinking he didn’t talk to me. That’s the first thing I thought.
CHIARA: I thought it was gonna be you, me or Lisa, I knew he was putting Josh up.
TONYA: Did he talk to you.
CHIARA: Uh-uh.
TONYA: No?
Chi: No.
TONYA: Does this air tomorrow night? Or it’ll air Wednesday night. It’ll air tomorrow, Saturday. Then I guess Wed is the veto. Thursday will be the veto and some of the…
CHIARA: That’s Thursday.
CHIARA: It’s a pain in the a**
TONYA: It is a pain in the a** I wonder what I’ll wear? Have three outfits. But I can’t wear one if I. I’ll wear my pants with the slit up the side.
CHIARA: I don’t think he meant me.
TONYA: ?
CHIARA: Roddy thing.
TONYA: I think he did. They say that spending 3 months on a show like this… You spend 24 hours a day, it’s like knowing these people for 10 years. You get unbelievably close. You don’t realize how different the mindset it. I hope you can control yourself and duhduhduh. I was , Like, I know what I want in life, and that’s all I can say. So he’s probably thinking that I’m doing real great. Even though I flirt, and took a shower with you, it’s innocent. I told Joshy he can’t sleep with me, it’s like crossing the line. I told him if you get kicked out you oughtta call David. I gave him the number, so now the internet has it, and he’s going, like, “Oh, I can’t believe she did that.
CHIARA: You can tell him the number different ways.
TONYA: Who cares?
CHIARA: Exactly.
TONYA: And he said he’d call him. And you know, Joshy totally no threat. I mean Eric and Roddy, and even Jason, who’s a virgin. David’s not gonna get jealous. He’s not a jealous guy. I think Roddy likes you. I totally think so. Totally. And he says to me, like, he’s so sweet. The first night we were in the tree and I was freezing. He keeps folding me in his arms and asking if I’m ok, and I said fine, but I’m freezing, and I kept thinking I really want to get out, but I can’t let this guy down…. My kids are probably thinking there goes Disney World. My ex says, you’ll get in there and get voted out the first week. I ask why, and he says no one can put up with you.

FOTH

8:27

Spygirl

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 08:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Feed 1 has wide shot of the backyard. No sounds.

Feed 2 has the same.

Feed 3 has Marsellas and Tonya laughing about the nomination stuff. Tonya saying that she is gonna be embarassed by herself on Thursday.

Feed 4 is Marsellas and Tonya still laughing. Marsellas leaves and Tonya is in the room alone.

Surini

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 08:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 1:
Amy drinking her beer and picking up in kitchen.
Roddy singing "so I leave with a hard on...." (I think to Josh).
Someone yelling "hey you guys got beer?" to the group at in the l.r. They yell back, "yes".
Roddy wants to be friends with the HOH so he can share some of their refrig. food and beer.
Danielle is called to DR
FOTH

Switching to Cam 2:
Showing outside but distant shot...it's Gerry and Tonya at the spa checking it out. Tonya runs for the dryer where she has sheets in it.
Showing no one right now, will switch cams.

Cam 3:
Back to table in living room.
Josh has food all over his face, think it's lettuce.
They are talking about time the spend in the DR. Lisa says she can't wait to see tape of her in DR cause she took teddy bear to DR with her and had forgotten about it, threw it on the floor and they told her "nope, you brought it to the room with you, pick it up"!
Switch to Amy in kitchen doing dishes. Can hear some convers in living room but not distinquishable.
Eric is in l.r. with others and has brought the lizards with him.
Lisa can't believe the lizards slept in the position they were in all night.
Switch to bedroom where Marcel is talking to Tonya.
M..."I wouldn't have done it if I didn't have to, tried every conceivable combination but this is what I had to do."
Tonya is agreeing with him, and telling him it's ok. She totally understands.
Marcel doesn't want her to be fine today with it but not tomorrow. She assures him she won't and says "it's a game"...I understand that you had to put up someone with Josh that you thought would not be getting voted out.
Tonya keeps assuring him and saying "I totally understand, I totally understand!"
Still worried about having to speak in front of cameras with Julie Chen because she doesn't do a good job of that and said, "people will be saying 'you can tell she's a stay-at-home mom' just by the way I talk."
Cam switches back to kitchen and l.r.

Aremid

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 08:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy is in the kitchen still working on her tea, complaining she isn't going to get it as sweet as she wants, she is sick of opening sugar packets
The rest that can eat regular food are still eating in the living room
They joke about having a beer each
Roddy - i have to confess, the reason I pick J for my team every time, If we win he isnt going to drink the beer
Danielle is called to the Diary Room
Eric comes in - just sit back and watch you guys eat, don't feel bad about anything
Josh- I don't want to hear any sob stories, cause nobody ever cooking without tasting some food
Lisa - I feel bad
Eric - ... don't feel bad for me
Eric - you guys agree with this, let's put it in the storage room, cause if we leave it out, we're gonna eat it everyday, let's take a hunk out, and put it in the storage room- cause if I look at it i'm gonna eat it
Then they joke about how awful the food is, the meat is rancid etc
They joke about the Diary room
Lisa talks about taking the teddy bear to the diary room - she can't wait to see the tape
Somebody whispers that somebody is really upset
Amy is still in the kitchen
Switching feeds looking for Gerry and Tonya and chiara
Mar is with Tonya
Mar - if you want to go there I will listen
Mar - I wouldn't have done it, I tried to put every senario I could with every person I could, it is important that you believe that
Tonya - I do
Mar - Last year they put that one girl up against Will and he ended up not going and I don't want that to happen
Tonya says she knows that, it makes sense
Tonya - this is what I think, we are in here to play a game, I was in here with Danielle, and I said Mar wants that man out and he will put somebody up against him that will get him out
Mar - I thought long and hard about possibly putting Gerry up, and I know a lot of things a lot of people don't think I know
Tonya - I told Danielle that, that you can see through some stuff
Mar.... further down the line
Tonya - I totally understand
Tonya .. I just regret the moment julie talks to me and I don't sound like everybody else does, that's my most nerve wracking moment
Tonya ... I do get more tv time though
Mar - take it
They say anybody who is around Jason gets more tv time and they laugh
Mar leaves, the camera switches back to the kitchen
They are cleaning up
Josh and Eric are in the Living room
Eric - you know what sucks is that I met Jim Cook and his right hand woman, and get t-shirts and sign releases
Josh - what happened
Eric - they never got back to me- they were so busy
... back to kitchen
.... switched to living room
Josh - Amy, Danielle, and Gerry have sold out
Eric - wonder what they will do if one of them gets the
Josh - the veto
Josh - I presume you'd put another girl up
Eric - if it is used, me, Roddy, or Kiki? goes up
Josh - probably Lisa
They talk about if he (Mar) uses numbers, and that Mar is smart
Josh - whoever wins the veto can't be nominated
Eric - yeah
Eric - don't read into it too much, until it is at least that far
Josh - if you use the veto, just remember you ?? as a threat
Josh - it was clearly a predetermined desision, nothing he used
Camera swithes outside
Mar - there was this moment when it was like get Lisa back - and that is not what this is about ... it was like you said making your stand in the moment, it doesn't matter if anybody feels anyway the way that I do, cause each person has to play the game they want to...next week I could be the crazed b---- doing things I said I was never going to - you could be the negative energy, I could be
Gerry- well we all have our negative spots
Chiara - I think you did what was right for you
Mar- thankyou
Chiara - you were playing the game .. the way they played it last year, I don't want to compare apples and oranges, they were all out to get each other, we are all good people, you have to make a choice.... last year, it was like let's ruin each others life - people might look at me and say get that (bleep bleep) out of the house
Mar - we don't know what Will was like when he wasn't on camera - it is like there were moments when we were sitting around doing nothing that I had really good conversations with Josh, I've had bad, but with Tonya, she has never been anything but nice to me
Amy comes out
Mar - Amy crashed and burned and she is not happy
Amy - I finally figured out why I had a bad day
Mar - well you're still cutting cigars
Amy leaves
Mar - it is hard to believe, you get into this thing where you are only here 3 months,
Gerry- we've only been here two weeks
Mar - I wanted to talk to Lisa, and I kinda broached it at dinner, there are these moments that you are on set, when I was ready I was ready, and they are can you hold for ten minutes, we all here, we're all on tv
Chiara - it is getting cold out, why is it so cold out
Gerry - I didn't bring anything long sleeved, and I live here
Mar - luckily on the way out, the guy was like you should take something long sleeved

Surini

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 08:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Feed 3:
Amy cutting cigars. Outside with Marcel, Gerry, Danielle, Chiara who is saying "life will go on".
Marcel says at most we have to be here 3 months, that's it.
Talking about it being cold, Gerry never brought any long sleeved things. He got flustered when they came to kidnap him, he almost forgot razor.
Marcel said on his way out the door when he was kidnapped the guy told him he should bring some long sleeved things cause it gets cold in Calif. (Planes going overhead like crazy during this conversation.)
Amy comes out and borrows a cigarette from Chiara, says she never smokes when sober but once she has one beer she does. Amy singing.
FOTH
Amy complaining that the song she was singing was a public song (personal) that it's her school song.
Roddy explaining to them all how it works with copyright etc. and why they get in trouble singing.
Amy smoking while saying "I hate cigarettes."
Marcel moves "South of the cig. smoke." Doesn't want his clothes smelling like smoke. Amy says she doesn't blame him.
Amy goes inside.
Marcel tells Gerry that Amy is getting on his nerves. Gerry asks why. Marcel doesn't really say except that he allows everyone to have their space or moment of the day but she's starting to get on his nerves.

Tooty

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 09:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
cut in on conversation between Amy and Marcellas. Amy has a drink in her hand.
Amy says she has no problems or issue's. If i want something, I go and get it and im done.
Marcellas says, we're all here to learn something.
Amy says, I learned how to wash windows.
Marcellas says, Its about the journey.
Amy starts talking about some outfit she wore to the promo. She says, it is silky, I had that on, its precious, so cute.
Amy then talks about how she always gets what she wants. She says, how can that be a bad thing? Put me in a closed enviorment, thats hard. You cant show your true colors. Amy starts whispering something to Marcellas and then its foth.

Aremid

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 09:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Mar - Amy is starting to get on my nerves
Gerry - Why
Mar - I don't know why but she is
Mar - it may be everything is getting on my nerves, cause this has been the most stressful day ever.
Gerry- I am a little concerned about the other shoe dropping
Mar- yeah
Gerry - I did sell him out
Mar - you know how I feel about that, you make a deal with the devil
Amy comes out and says Jason says open your room, hey I'm making up beds in the high rent
Mar - that's all I want a drunk elf running around
Eric comes out
Eric - ashtray? Water?
Gerry - ashtrays over there
camera switches
Amy - you're an art director everything - you can direct my wedding
Amy - I psychologically set myself up, I'm a Gemini, I can be happy, and all I have to do is think about being upset, and like that I'm in depression more, once I sell myself into it, it is hard to get out of it, I can pull myself out of it, but it is a little more difficult .. I think that is what has happened
Mar - I'm the type of person, that once I allow myself to go there, then I'm done, so I can't allow myself to go there, once I'm angry....
Amy - this is the deal, in real life, if I want it, it is mine, but it is different when you are in a set environment, you can't be that way
Mar - We're all here to learn something
Amy - I learned to wash windows
Mar - I learned something
Amy - it is about the journey
Amy - you'd love what I wore on my promo, it is George Taylor, it is like Tourquoise, but when I turn it is like green, it is irridescent, like a shiny green, ...I had that on, precious, so cute
Is getting what you want a good thing or a bad thing, and I'm like I always get what I want. I'm like that I always get what I want, and you can't do that in a closed environment, you can't go off
Amy whispers something about Tonya
FOTH
Amy - she was so pissed - I applaud you, you did an excellent job, except that you called Josh Jason
Amy - you did a wonderful job
( she whispers about the veto)
Mar - that is the important thing..to get rid of him
Amy - what you said about class? Somebody finally threw out the word
Mar - we can make this beautiful...that is the way I try to live my life, we can make this beautiful
Amy - people have to leave, and yes it has to work that way, we can come back for the final vote, and feel good about what we've done
Amy - did you put those keys in there yourself,
Mar - I didn't without
Amy - without thinking about it
Amy whispers some more
Amy - I wanted to take that key and go..
Mar - They tell you ( he whispers ) do what you like blah blah blah
Amy whispering
Mar - I just took them off the wall, and as they came up, I just put them in there
Mar - Actually I forgot the slot, and they were like did you forget the slot- so you can just move them around
Amy - Chiandra (laughs) whispers, I wanted to so bad
Mar - and Jason
Amy - that was classic man, so classic
Mar - and that was so funny, I can't keep my eyes off of you
Amy- so classic
Amy - I wanted to do that so bad- and the winner is - and I got it out
Mar - if he gets vetoed out, through some fluke, and he is safe, we still have the advantage cause I'll put another one of them in
Mar - I'm not playing people, I'm not trying to play, Gerry, I'm not playing you or Danielle
Amy - you gotta put Chiandra in (she is whispering can't hear it all)
Sounds goes off on them, and is on another room, then back to them, then off, then back

Surini

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 09:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Feed l:
Missed part of this because of FOTH

Marcel and Amy in HOH bedroom.
Talking about when they pull the key. If Josh gets vetoed out and he's safe, he's going to put another one of them right back in there.
Amy is telling Marcel that he needs to put Chiara in if they Veto out Josh because Tonya and Chiara are the same and it wouldn't matter which they picked because it'd be a win for them anyway. She says can't put in Lisa because it looks like revenge.

**The audio keeps going to another room on this feed so can't get everything being said...gggrrrr**

Amy saying that Marcel can be very blatant out there giving his reasons...like "•••••, I'm going to get your a**"

audio cut off again..think its BB or whatever cutting this off, not my RP

Now they are on Feed 4:
Marcel says it's a win win situation.
Amy is swinging her hips and acting a little drunk and laughing and Marcel says "they ought to be able to get the rights to that very cheap!"

Cyn

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 09:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
feed 4
Ch laying back in hammick, lifts legs so ja can sit under them.
Ja - How’s the knee
Ch - It hurts
Je - You half to milk it for at least a week
Ch - At least a month
(From afar laughs amy and man)
ja - What’s gonna happen when it’s a full moon?
Ch - Big cat sound
Ja - Amy’s so drunk?
Ch - Come here do you want to see how he injured me
Ja - You have to admit that I took good care of you
Ch - Hey why are there no stars in the sky
Ja - Because of the lights or maybe its cloudy I could tell you the scientific stuff
Ch - Yeah, it’s probably the lights
Ja – talks about friend Christina getting married today.
Ja - It was just this little tiny thing that became this big incident.
Ja - Unbelievable (to off screen) / Unbelievalbe he made it the very first shot / Hahah she’s smokin a cigar (talkin aabout amy) / Did you talk to tonya?
Ch - She understands
Ja - I talked to josh too. It’s just a tough game.
Ch - You voted for lori,
Ja - Yeah, i told someone that.

Cyn

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 09:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Absolutely, if he was smarter he would of put roddy up. That was his mistake. I think it would have been smarter to put roddy up
T - why do you think roddy would be diff than me
J - Because he would truly all out campaign to keep rodday cuz he knows that anytime you put two people up… he had to be thinking if god forbids… I don’t care if tonya is gone. Everyone knows how he feels about roddy. I think that at this point he’s going to say let the cards lay. It doesn’t really matter cuz any one of you would have been the same way, but maybe closer to you, cuz he’s so hard to read. It’s just like I can’t see me and mar out too much. no just… general… I think that’ he’s trying to keep his self distant from ea person and not worry.
t- You smokin another one. There gonna be gone honey

Aremid

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 09:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy - because I always think Jason was a sure thing, but now I think they'd kick him out
Mar - me too, same thing about Eric
sounds goes off then back on
when it comes back they are talking about Roddy, and something about if Josh leaves, Amy is going in there and... sound goes off again
Amy says she is gonna go pee
Mar laughs
Mars - they should be able to get the rights to that one cheap (didn't see what she did)
Gerry - I'm gonna go get the cards
Lisa - Amy lets go for another record breaker
Chiandra - we were puking Jason, we were throwing up and you are just thinking of yourself
Lisa - Amy you should just go to bed and cut your losses for the day
Lisa - It only lasted about 20 minutes last time, cause we were so good
Mar - that's true
They talk about some brownies, some have peanut butter some don't
Jason - you just come to me when you need a compliment (to Chiandra)
Jason - look she is gonna leave me and go to Roddy, you're going to Roddy, (he yells) FINE!
Chiandra grabs Jason around the neck
Jason - do you want to have a brownie fight
Chiandra - I'd love to have a brownie fight
Mar - not on the carpet people
Danielle - Oh now they calm down
Camera moves outside
Josh - one of them has to break you'd think
Josh - could someone tell us how to turn the heat on in the hottub please
Amy - we thought it was gonna be fixed,
Lisa - I think it is a no for now
Amy - I understood the hottub was gonna be fixed...
Lisa - the beer and all right now
Danielle - you guys are gonna get me drunk so you can see me get paranoid
Josh - in the regular world I smoke one cigar every two months, it is just something to do, have a vice - something to do here - I figured there'd be plenty of time
Josh - this is the one night we're all dying for the Jacuzzi
Eric - if it were working properly that light would be on
Josh - we could boil pots of water and put it on top
They discuss doing that
Then wonder if the jets are working
Gerry comes out and says he just had an idea
Switching cameras
Feed 3 is on the kitchen
Jason picks up Chiandra and carries her outside
Chiandra - I want ya'll to know Jason hurt me, he hurt me bad, I'm injured ( she laughs)
and he hurt me
Jason - she started it
Chiandra - who is the one with the bandage on
Jason - how is the knee - does it hurt
Jason- I'm sorry
Jason - you're going to milk it for at least a week
Chiandra - at least a month
Jason - Amy is three sheets in the wind
Jason and Chiandra talk about the stars and why they can't see them
Jason- Roddy can tell you the scientific stuff
Chiandra - the moon is getting larger and larger
Chiandra - Roddy, he hurt my knee
Roddy - I'm sure he meant to
Jason - it is the tiny thing that became a huge incident
Jason - did you talk to Tonya
Chiandra - yeah, she is alright- she understands it has to be done
Jason - I feel bad for Tonya, I feel bad for Josh to, it is tough
Chiandra- You voted for Lori didn't you
Jason - I told somebody that
Tonya comes over and said somebody said something about if she went home she could have sex, and she worries about her mother and kids seeing that, she said if I get kicked out, I can go home and have sex with my boyfriend
Chiandra - Jason hurt me
Tonya- did you kiss it and make it better
Jason - I kissed it, and bandaged it etc
Tonya - it is cold out here
Jason - our love will keep us warm
Then he says something about her and Roddy, and she said he has Lisa, and Jason says oh good, then he says they can call girl swap and switch places
They start talking about what kind of cars they have
Chiandra - so anyway you voted for Lori, you voted to keep her here
jason - I really thought it was going to be a clean sweep - except maybe Gerry, I knew he didn't like anything going on
How did you vote
Chiandra - I voted against her, I mean I had to
Jason- I fought it, I felt like I had a real connection with her, I didn't think it would save her, but I wanted to be friends
Chiandra - plus the money
Jason ... ultimately it helped me, by her going
Chiandra - to one of the males - so you drive a Ford Taurus and you live in the Valley
male - well yeah, sorta
Jason - so which guy are you gonna sleep with tonight
Chiandra yells across what Jason said
Male - I love it ( must be Roddy)
Josh and Tonya are talking
Josh - I'm not campaigning against you, I'm not gonna try to convince people, I'm not gonna do it, I'm curious where people are gonna go, but I'm not gonna do it
Tonya - they asked me in the DR if I trusted you
I said yeah, I had no reason not to
They talk about Gerry
Tonya ... he would put up the person that is closest with Josh
Josh - it would be smarter to put Roddy up
Tonya - you think? why would it be smarter than me
( Can't hear all Josh says for noise of others talking)
Josh - everybody in the house knows how he feels about Roddy....he's trying to keep himself from having to do any work, I think he is totally wrong
Josh - actually I am probably closer to you than I am to anyone
Josh - I think he is trying to keep himself distanced from either person (mar)
Josh..... at this point my hands are completely tied, and he knows he tied my hands
Josh- I clearly knew this was coming anyway
Tonya - I thought it was gonna be Lisa, cause he had said something that made me think it was gonna be heard
3757776 - (josh said that)
Tonya - ??number
Josh - stupid, I just thought about it now, I just said it
They talk about somebody going through their cigarettes and they are gonna be gone
Josh... clearly I was up the whole time