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Mlpattison | Friday, July 12, 2002 - 09:05 am     For L the divorce was like going through a death. She went through a morning period. G agrees. G is getting choked up missing his wife. Saying he can’t wait to get home to be with her. L talking about the 6-month waiting period after a divorce before you can marry again…says it’s a good idea. G- talking about his 1st marriage. He married Debra not 2 weeks after ‘the ink was dry on the divorce papers of his 1st marriage’. He saw his ex wife at his high school reunion. Said it was good to see her but it was just like seeing an old friend and it surprised him because he was supposed to have loved this woman and she was no more to him then an old friend. Made him glad to be with Debra. Says she’s his soul mate |
Mlpattison | Friday, July 12, 2002 - 09:06 am     . G- Life story: When he was young they moved a lot. His dad went to school to be a teacher but didn’t do it right away. Was an airline mechanic and making good $ but in his heart wanted to teach. In SF area he had opportunity (with a pay cut) to teach. $8k was the salary. So he took it and they moved there. G was maybe 3 years old. His grandfather was mad at his dad for taking pay cut. But G was happy dad went with his heart. After that move to SF…they moved about every 3 years (from school district to school district) until high school… |
Treasure | Friday, July 12, 2002 - 09:10 am     Cam 3 Gerry says he married 2nd wife (been married 28 yrs) 2 weeks after first divorce was finalized. Saw 1st wife at school reunion years later, was amazed he had thought he loved her, so much that he had been married to her. Says he's soooooo glad he's married to Deborah (Debra?) instead. Now talking about his father going to college with the intention of being a teacher, after already being in the job market as an airline mechanic. Moved family to rural Northern Cali when Gerry was three to be a teacher at a one room type school in Honeydew. They moved about every three years until they settled in the Bay area when Gerry was 14. Gerry's talking about Scotia, the Red Wood mill town, that was the second, or one of the, school(s) his dad taught at. If they had not moved from there, he would have ended up in the same high school with, and met earlier, his present wife. Gerry's now talking about the early 70's attitude of free love, but saying he is personally a sexual prude, monagamous. So he didn't cheat on first wife. Saying tho, that he and first wife were way too young to be married. Lori saying her ex would say she bailed on their marriage. But she asked him to go to joint counseling many times, and he refused until she served him with divorce papers, and she had to tell him that she would go, even tho she was emotionally "already gone". That they talked right before she came in the house, that he was sad that he realized the counseling was just for him, not to safe the marriage. posting |
Faerygdds | Friday, July 12, 2002 - 09:10 am     Cam 3: Gerry is talking about his first marriage. How he thought he loved her, but now he's so glad that he is with his wife now. Gerry is worried that he's repeating himself and says to basically stop him if you've heard this one before (brief discussion on how during 12 weeks we're all bound to hear repeats). His dad made a good living in 1950 and then they moved. His borther was a baby and Gerry was 3. Gerry wanted to know how he could give up such great money to "follow his bliss" (ed:hmmm... that's a Joseph Campbell phrase). He was really grateful though that his Dad had the courage to do that. He is talking about how if they had not moved he would have gone to school with his wife. He was married to his first wife, they moved back and his marriage was falling apart. He met his current wife and boom... He admits it was lust at first sight (ed: lol). This was during the "free" late 60's early 70's. Even though it was that time he didn't break the bonds of his marriage. But once his wife left. He went there. When his then wife came back he told her he was sleeping with someone and she said that it was ok. She later told him that she was coming back to work it out, but he never gave it the chance and he feels guilty for that. Lori said that her ex would say she bailed. Then she decided to go back and he wasn't interested. Lori admits that she was already emotionally gone. She told him that she would go to counselig for HIM [not them]. That apparently hurt her ex the most. ed: posting - you guys have this covered... post in the need LFP thread if you all need a break.  |
Mssilhouette | Friday, July 12, 2002 - 09:12 am     G talking about his first wife and how they were both immature and that's why they split. He said he mourned that for a few days. G: It wasn't love at first sight it was lust. I did remember a conversation we had at a bar once but it was the free love of the 70's. I was monogomus so I was still within the bonds of my marriage when I met my 2nd wife. Paraphrasing: He got a call from his 2nd wife while he was still hitched but emotionally gone. tThe 2nd wife gave him a call and that's when he started to fall in love. He told his first wife that he was sleeping with someone else and she was at first okay with that. Later on he found out that she (1st wife) intended to come back and tryh to work things out. Lori shares her similiar experience. How she was there for her hubby just to provide support but the she really wasn't there emotionally. (posting) |
Eggie | Friday, July 12, 2002 - 09:17 am     Cam 1/2 still on sleeping hamsters Cam 3/4 still Lori/Gerry "life" discussion G: When he was 3, his father took a teaching job at less pay in a small town - he followed his "Bliss" - until he was 14 they moved alot as his father changed jobs then they settled in San Francisco - had they stayed in one of the small towns, he would have ended up going to high school with his wife - all of this to say that his relationship with his wife Deborah was "meant to be" G: He met his current wife while still married to first wife, made a connection, but didn't sleep with her because his is a "sexual prude" - but he carried guilt for not trying to work it out with his first wife L: Wanted to try marriage counselling but her husband didn't want to, until she served him with papers, but by then too late for her [pp] - we are done with the past, i remember the good times we had but i don't remember the bond we had when we were married G: society doesn't tell you that the passion does fade - we have had our ups and downs, we have had counselling, in the long run i credit us not the counsellors L: if you keep the true sense of who you are, and allow each other the freedom to "be", there is hope G: big gap between my oldest and youngest kids (25, 21, 14) - the oldest kids knew me when i was an actor, my youngest has never known me as an actor only as a teacher - and he has only known the financial stability that has come with being a teacher G and L both agree that they couldn't have done this [BB] before, that now they are comfortable with who they are which allows them to feel free enough to do this [pp] |
Eggie | Friday, July 12, 2002 - 09:30 am     G: i love this veto power, but i don't know how i would use it - i promised myself i would vote for Marcellas, but i don't know how i feel about it - i'm sorry i fell victim to having to play the game - having conversations like this is much better - the game isn't important anymore - i don't want to get out of here - not because i want to win, but because i want to enjoy these conversations - i will vote for marcellas because i enjoy our conversations L: thank you gerry, but we don't even know what the game is yet G: Jason had a fascinating comment - i want to talk more to him - i admire his moral convictions - he deserves to be America's sweetheart - Jason mentioned being sequestered in a hotel after eviction - maybe this is because they are going to bring back an evictee - it is a possible scenario L: i'm working on my feelings on my nomination - my conversation with Josh - i listened to him and to Lisa - i've done what i've needed to do to feel better about me G: Josh's immature behaviour is what i deal with at work - it rubs me the wrong way - Josh doesn't need to rely on fart humour, he is funny enough without that kind of humour L: i used to be an attention seeking clown, i was voted class clown in high school - i appreciate humuor, i love to laugh, but when i think back to being a teenager i've changed - at my reunion i emotionally rewound to my younger days - but i don't like these popularity contests - i love that Marcellas and Chiara are funny - but i am not that crazy spontaneous clown that i used to be, but i am still a big talker |
Treasure | Friday, July 12, 2002 - 09:30 am     Cam 3 Gerry and Lori confirming Danielle's statement from the other day that sex is overrated. Talking about counselers encouraging people to stay together for "the sake of the kids". Talking about how you change as a parent, how you parent each kid differently. Gerry is saying how his older two (24, 25 years old) knew him when he was an actor in the theater and how Owen, his youngest (14), doesn't know him that way. Gerry is saying that this is the best conversation of his life, and he doesn't care that people are listening in and may not care at all about what they're talking about. Gerry is laughing that he tried to get into television for so long, and when he stopped caring so much, and was much more real, he got the BB gig. Epiphany about when he stopped trying to be "AN ACTOR" and started being Gerry, he was happier being himself, and got this gig. Lori went inside for something. She's back. Gerry says that he might monopolize her time all day, becaus he's enjoying her so much. They're standing up and hugging. He's talking about coming to visit her in Wisconsin. She said "bring your wife, we'll eat cheese" and "I'll show ya the worms. Now they're strategizing about the game. Gerrry is talking about the veto, about how he wants to keep Marc and her. How Marc is just being himself playing the B***ch, and that they should have stuck up for him much more. Now they're talking about different gay people that they know, and how different people act differently. More about power of veto thing that's coming. Lori is saying she doesn't even want to talk about all this: strategy, game playing, etc. Gerry says let's get back to real life talk, more interesting than this f***ing game. Now talking about being a jock, playing sports, kid trying out for football, not making the team. His being disappointed, but not let down. Saying that he thinks BB is not important, but editing himself, saying that doesn't mean he wants to get out of there. Reaffirming that he enjoys her conversations, looks forward to 8 weeks from now, same same, and discussing that the game has not even begun yet (edit: AMEN!). Saying Jason deserves to be America's Sweetheart. They are talking about "that wierd knife incident" from last year. Talking about knowing you've evicted the wrong person and not being able to change it. Has an idea of sequestering evictees in a hotel so that a switch could be made when mistake was realized. Lori talking about Josh telling her things she didn't need to know. But that he's only human, and his issues are his and she now feels better for herself. Gerry is saying Josh really pissed him off last night, but that he's trying to get over it. Talking about liking witty jokes best, but will laugh at fart jokes as much as anybody. Lori saying she loves to laugh. and how that changes over time. Reunions are an "emotional rewind". That they're fun. But doesn't like the popularity contests. Former classmates expect you to still be the class clown, talkative, person. posting. time for lunch. Will post more this afternoon. |
Mssilhouette | Friday, July 12, 2002 - 09:33 am     G: Apologizing to Lor for playing the game because he thinks this convo is more interesting than the game. Making an analogy comparing football (smart enough to play the game but dumb enough to think it matters) So you have to be smart to play BB but he knows he doesn't matter. He doesn't want to leave the game but he's enjoying the convo with Lori. He said he's had deeper conversation with her and he hopes to continue. Lori: We don't even know what the game is yet..Ya know what Imean. G: Well they (bb) know what the game is and we shouldn't change our convo. G talks about Jason how he's a great kid. How (Jason) was talking about being sequestered after eviction and what question they might ask you. (ed: for the final vote?) Lori talking about Josh coming to her telling her that she was nominated. She's saying that it kinda jumped her mind a bit but after she talked to Lisa she felt better. She said Josh's issues are his. G: Agreeing...His issue is this: Immature behavior is what he deals with at work. Paraphase: basically he appreciate Josh's humor and he'll laugh at fa*t jokes as much as anyone but he likes it when it's not put on for the sake of the game. Lori, recounts her high school experience how she was a clown and wanted attention. How she was voted most popular but those days are gone. She's not a clow and the other HG's are expecting her to be that way but she's not anyhmore. She won't seek out a luagh anywhere she can get it. She's not the same girl anymore. There gonna expect that but I'm not that person. Paraphrase: G and Lori talking about the younger folks going for a popularity contents. Lori is saying that when the reunion comes down the girl with the best hair who knows is a manic depressive will you see her coming through that door (at a reunion). No you won't see that. She says she didn't go to hers because she wasn't the same person. She didn't like how they were all rewinding to the past. But she's all for reunions. (posting) I gotta go folks..someone take over  |
Mags | Friday, July 12, 2002 - 09:46 am     cam 1, 2 - sleepers cam 3 - gerry and lori convo L - has a brother who was in spec ed through school...he's a twin (she is getting upset talking)..when her mom got pregnant, didn't know she was having twins, bryhce was born first, then they realized that there was another one, so thiss one lost oxygen. They were both darling as babies...around 3rd grade, problems with Brent, falling behind in school. 4th grade-12th grade, brent became a target. he reached HS before a special ed teacher suggested that he should have tests. That was when she found out. Brent was the target for teasing. I was so angry, he got beat up. Other brother, ken, in military... FOTH |
Cinder | Friday, July 12, 2002 - 09:49 am     During the FOTH you could see a shirtless man painting the squares on the wall. |
Grannygrunt | Friday, July 12, 2002 - 09:49 am     When FOTH saw man working on fence doing something to one of the squares. |
Faerygdds | Friday, July 12, 2002 - 09:51 am     I got it.... Cam 3: Lori was talking about her brothers. Apparently she has fraternal twin brothers. When the second child was born he was oxygen deprived because the doctors didnt' know there were two. In 3rd grade he started having problems and just "wasn't getting it" No one noticed it until he was in High school and a special ed teacher caught it and told their Mom to have him tested. They cut the FOTH The come back and she is talking about how Bryce (the first born twin) died and how her Mom had to tell her brother, who fell to his knees and just moaned. Lori is really crying while telling this (not sure the circumstances because of the FOTH) Lori states that she was really upset too, but here was Brent losing his soulmate.. his twin.. cut to the FOTH... posting |
Mags | Friday, July 12, 2002 - 09:52 am     FOTH - someone painting one of the multi colored tiles. L - don't mess with my people...(she is upset)...Bryce dies at 19, Brent dropped to his knees, moans when he found out..she was mourning too, but was thinking of Brent, and how he feels about his twin being dead. FOTH - back to shirtless man painting tiles gray |
Ryn | Friday, July 12, 2002 - 09:54 am     FOTH (Front of the house cam - please don't ask Q's in this area - thanks ) - someone is painting the house...
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Faerygdds | Friday, July 12, 2002 - 09:56 am     Cam 3: Back from FOTH: Gerry is taking about a kid who couldn't read. Gerry said he had other gifts, but he couldn't read. Everyone kept telling him that you have to get him to read. He told them that you can't teach him to read because he needs to learn auditorilly. Getting him to read would be hard, but the experts wanted to blanket him. He hates those that come in and try to say this is what ALL kids need, when special ed is about the individual student rather than the sudent body. Gerry said that he would have found Lori's brother's strengths rather than focussing on his weaknesses. Lori is going to the Bathroom... BB tells Gerry that they are going to have a lockdown and asks him to prepare the outside for it. Lori comes out and Gerry informs her. Lori is going to help him prepare for lockdown and then hop in the shower.
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Mags | Friday, July 12, 2002 - 09:56 am     FOTH = front of the house G - a kid (?) was not a genius, average intelligence...trying to get this kid to read...G says no, we can't fix that part, but we can educate him...what do the s-pec ed kids need. One size doesn't fit all. Class numbers are smaller, you can understand each kid. If i had your brother, i would have found out what his strenghts were. L - maybe the teachers did find his strengths, did they pass him on in school cause they did find his strenghths. g - i'll bet he was a good kid, not a troublemaker. l - he has a heart of gold l - you can learn a lot from the elderly...they have already been there g - i am glad that i have a good relationship with my dad now. L goes in for coffee and a trip to the WC (watercloset) Gerry looking around at the backyard. |
Mags | Friday, July 12, 2002 - 10:01 am     BB - lockdown inside, G please pull the shades G - guess what l - what? g - we are going into lockdown L - i am going to take a shower after i help u lower the shades l - everyone got see my lingere...i left my laundry outside g - i just got...6 months from now, I can talk about my friend lori l - thank you they hug g - i hope that the night owls they are geting the same thing (good talks, i guess) g - intense conversation, then BB comes over the aire...and of course ont he internet, we are the only things going on..i don't mind if 12 people nationwide were listening (LOL) they are whispering, lights are out in the house |
Ryn | Friday, July 12, 2002 - 10:03 am     Hgs going into lockdown (I assume to prepare for the Veto Challenge). Cam 1 & 2 - sleeping Hgs Cam 3 7 4 - Gerry and Lori, closing the shades, getting ready to move inside. Gerry closes the door to the outside. Gerry talks about being reminded about something by BB (about the net people watching and what they say). Gerry, "who cares what 12 people in the nation hear?" (us net folks). (ed - this explains all the FOTHs earlier. Gerry and Lori are now back inside, cam 3 on Gerry as he fiddles with something. Now taking the trash to the storage room. Jason is not in his cot (I assume he is in a real bed). |
Mags | Friday, July 12, 2002 - 10:06 am     G messing around with something, making noise (can't tell what it is) G - going to empty trash, waiting for BB to open storage room...in SR, changing batteries, opens fridge, poking around G out of SR, trying to turn on lights..goes in fridge in K, must be looking for something to eat switching feeds, posting |
Ryn | Friday, July 12, 2002 - 10:17 am     Lori in the shower - Jason talking to her. Jason says he went to bed right after her (apparent;y the sun was coming up) - he tells her Jerry says its 11 so he slept a while (its 10). cam cuts to Gerry talking about eating with Danielle, says maybe they should all eat dinner together and then fend for themselves the rest of the time. Gerry says to jason he hopes he gets to talk to him soon - that he is tired of the game playing. Gerry "I want to walk out of here with 11 friends more than 500k" Jason agrees - says he has never had 11 friends like this before. Gerry says he can't play the games, hes 'out there' vote him off (not really - but he is just making a point). |
Mags | Friday, July 12, 2002 - 10:20 am     G going back to SR Jason is up...asking about r we in lockdown. G - it's past 11 Ja - we slept late G - i tried to sleep in today, woke up and couldnt go back g - going to make a grilled cheese, you want one Ja - sure G in SR switching feeds cam 4 - L in shower Ja in WC - washes hands! Ja - mroning (to L) L - morning sunshine, how'd you sleep? Ja - good L - did u stay up late? Ja - no, i didn't think i slept that long, but i guess i slept from when the sun rose till 11 Ja leaves bathroom cam 1 and 2 still on sleepers cam 3 in SR G - i just had the best conversation with lori Danielle is up D - i slept hard G - i feel so good this am G - i hope i get an opportunity to monopolize your time, i just want to talk to you, tired of game playing, i want to walk out of here with 11 firends more than 1/2 mill $ Ja - i have never had this kind of relationship with anyone G - if you have to vote me out, i want you to cry..i fell victim to the machavailan (sp) game playing thing, but i am out of it, if you don't like it, vote me out Ja - hey Kiki Ja is making coffee - decaf G is facilitating battery switches D - decaf?? i need caf T is up D to T - how did u sleep? T - wonderful D - i slept on the cot, but I slept hard T - had funky dreams T - i fell asleep outside, while everyone was talking G - i am full of love today G hugs everyone C has to pee Ja and C and T hug G - ohh a Jason sandwich c - it could be so much more they all laugh t - just marry her jason posting |
Treasure | Friday, July 12, 2002 - 10:25 am     All 4 cams are on HG in kitchen Gerry is explaining they are on lockdown, is "announcing" that today will be a fun, interesting day. Cam 1 moves to the ladies in the bathroom Lori, Tonya, Chiara Talking about passing out earplugs last night so they don't hear each other snoring. Tonya left, they talk about how she was one of the first asleep last night. Chitchatting about how they slept. Tonya comes back in. Talking about snoring being unfeminine. about being tired. Tonya wandered back out. posting |
Mags | Friday, July 12, 2002 - 10:27 am     Ja - it is so funny, we are in lockdown and we are peeking out the windows D - i feel great G - i can tell d - i grind my teeth when i have a good dream, sounds like i am chewing rocks ja - are you worried about your teeth d - na...my youngest does it too ... ja-you don't do it all night? g - i hear that that happens cause of iron deficiency d - nerves g - what do we have to be nervous about? haha d - my mind is going a million miles an hour talkingabout s&p shaker guess they are making fried eggs g - trailer trash eggs benedict d - u are so funny g - i am only a college degree away from being trailer trash d singing something about "i love u" g - i think that josh should be called jacob, cause he is so smooth d - cause of esau and jacob bible talk g - i remember it from a comedy routine (ddudley moore and peter cook) about a vicar gives sermon on how jacob is smooth and esau is hairy talking about Princess Bride and who Peter Cook is inthe movie d stretching ja - that cot is hard to sleep on, that board is almost better, i toss more on the cot ... ja - my throat was scratchy last night, kept coughing..i am going to wathc my caffeine today, it is really bad on your vocal chords, and we talk so much, anything to keep from straining it g making breakfast for everyone |
Mags | Friday, July 12, 2002 - 10:32 am     ant/bug talk... g - it is gorgeous out there, probably going to be hot d - like tank top hot? g - yes, wifebeater hot (lol) g wants corn dogs L out of shower - lets have a circus day (?) g - talking about eggs again (posting...gotta go for a while.) |
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