Archive through July 12, 2002
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TV ClubHouse: Archive: USA 2002: - LIVE FEEDS -: Big Brother III Archive of Live Feeds (USA): Big Brother III - July 2002 Live Feed Archives: Day 7 - Early morning strategizing, Veto Challenge: Archive through July 12, 2002

Bettyblue

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 03:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The six (Lisa, Tonya, Chiara) (Josh, Eric, Roddy)
Thanks Sage! :) Roddy is discussing how Gerry is a good guy and how Gerry tries to bond with him and that its tough.
Josh says Gerry isnt a threat because her cant persuade anyone against them. Josh says "it's not like there are 17 people in another house somewhere that we don't know about." (haha)
Josh calls Jason "Jesus Christ" and says he's not a threat because Jesus Christ just floats around in a pool all day.

They all are worrying (AGAIN) about who will win the veto tomorrow.
They go over "the 6 packs plan" AGAIN!!
Really worrying about losing Gerry's vote.

(someone help I am having back pain)

Bettyblue

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 03:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Feed 1 and 2 : The SIX on patio
Feed 3: Sleepers
Feed 4: Sleepers

Bettyblue

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 03:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
They go inside. Tonya thinks the sun is coming up. (It isnt)
Chiara comments that she wants this to work, they are all here for the same thing (the $$)
Lisa laughs and says "I'm just here to hookup"

Josh says that he likes Jason and if he has to F*** with him he (Josh) will cry. They all agree Jason is great.

Eric says he won't show emotion regarding Jason, if they hurt him in the game. Tonya says "you are a firefighter for Christ's sake."
Tonya says goodnite. Eric and Lisa in BR. Lisa brushing teeth. The 5 regroup again minus Josh in BR. Eric says they should stockpile the alcohol for strip poker nites ans make sure it doesn't get taken away.
They all say goodnite and Eric and Lisa go to the HOH together.
Eric tells America he's not trying to get in her pants. They laugh.
Lisa does not want Josh to "run the show."
Eric says he's a lite sleeper and talks and freaks out. Lites out they get in bed. Lisa tells Eric to be HOH next. Eric asks how much longer she has the room. She thinks next live show.

Kizz

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 04:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Camera one: Lisa and Eric in the Hoh room, conversation is mostly whispered, tho once Eric told Lisa she didn't have to whisper "there's no one to hear you" (sez you LOL) They take a little while to get settled, but then there is sleep breathing, a few mintes after, they readjust the covers and blankets, trying to get a more comfortable position. They ask each other several times "Are you ok? Are you comfortable"? then settle down again. Another few minutes later, Eric starts talking out of the blue about (I think) the location of the cameras in the Hoh, Lisa seems confused, has him say it again, he points to walls, then seems to fall immediately back to sleep (so he may talk in his sleep, he snores quite a bit, thats for sure, poor Lisa)

They seem to be settled down...and I have to get to work

Grannygrunt

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 05:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
cam1: HOH sleeping
cam2: sleeping
cam3: roddy and Chiara sleeping (snoring very loudly can't tell who
cam4: High distict sleeping

Grannygrunt

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 06:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
roddy and chiara not sleeping well. tossing and turning. lots of noise. like people not sleeping good. can't tell who is in big bed. or single bed. eric snoring very loudly.
cam2: somone snoring VERY LOUD.
cam4: someone said "you just did it again" (sleep talking)
HOH lisa is saying something in her sleep.
will wait to post again till someone gets up and moves about.

Treasure

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 06:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 1 Eric and Lisa in the HoH bed. They woke up for a second. He was talking about someone strategizing. She uhmhumed from 3/4 asleep. They both went back to sleep. Her face is *this close* to his armpit.

Treasure

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 06:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
BB blanked something out. Cam 1 came back to Eric and Lisa sleeping still, now facing different directions. Will wait to update until they're awake or disturbed by other HG.

Aussiedeb

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 07:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
All cams showing HG's sleeping, and some are snoring really loud.

Cam 1 Lisa and Eric
Cams 2,3,4 other HG's sleeping

Treasure

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 07:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Note FYI: Only 8 HG on are on camera asleep, 9 counting the bottom of a sleeping bag that may have someone in it. BB does not have the other 3 or 4 HG on camera. The early risers were up several hours at this time yesterday.

All 8/9 HG on camera are still fast asleep.

Treasure

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 07:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bingo!

Cam 1 switched to a fully dressed Lori, staring out the window into the backyard. She walked to the kitchen and is making coffee. Nobody else is with her or talking from another room, so no dialogue.

Treasure

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 07:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 1, 2 are Lori walking back and forth between kitchen and diningroom table.

Cam 3 is Chiara and Roddy still sleeping.

Cam 4 is on an empty single bed, or cot, hard to tell with covers all messed up. But the camera is angled at the opposite mirror so that it is clear the bed is empty.

Treasure

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 07:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 1 Lori outside smoking.

Cam 2 wide lens backyard, Lori from far away.

Cam 3 sleeping Roddy n Chiara.

Cam 4 sleeping HG.

Will come back later when they're up and talking. *sigh*

Maris

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 08:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Gerry and Lori talking outside.

Gerry doesnt want to play the game if he has to have a master plan. He just wants to have fun. The journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step. Gerry is into hamlet. There is time at the end to worry about winning.

Lori, you cant have a master plan. They wont let you. I am going to have fun my last week here if it is my last week.

Gerry lets see what happens. Gerry had a lovely chat with Amy last night.

Lori says Amy is a stitch and loves her stories. Amy is a trip.

Gerry - Roddy is a master story teller. Amy's stories are coming from a place that he has a marginal understanding of. never having known a southern belle before.

Lori - listening to Amy's story, that is all I have heard her tell in full length. I love her seriousness. She has this feeling and is living characters lives. She is a very funny woman.
Her red lips and her dramatic way of dressing enhances her story telling.

Aussiedeb

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 08:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 3 - Gerry and Lori having an indepth conversation about life in general.

Gerry saying his kids are his greatest accomplishment, and no amount of accolades etc can come close. His wife has a broken foot and might need surgery and he is worried but said one daughter is old enough to take care of her but he said his wife really doesnt need taking care of.

(This is a great conversation but my pain meds are playing with me here so I hope someone else is there getting this)

Aussiedeb

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 08:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lori is worried about people thinking she is a nudist, but in fact she is not.

Gerry asked her if she was, she said no, she dated a nudist but does not herself frequent nudist colonies etc.
Lori is trying to explain it to him and she wants to know who is asking about it.

Lori said that she did learn alot from that guy that she accepts her body for what it is.

Lori doesnt believe in plastic surgery stuff, but she said that if that person needs it to make them smile more and feel better then power to them.

Gerry saying that he has lots of gay friends and he loves to tweek them.

Aussiedeb

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 08:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lori, homosexuality is talked about way too much. Heterosexuals, she is asking if when you go to a restaurant with his wife (gerrys wife) does everyone look at them going " wow look at them wonder what they do behind closed doors"

She is saying that people judge homosexuals way too much, and that because its different, doesnt mean its wrong.

We need to choose individuals for who they are, not what they are.

Aussiedeb

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 08:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 3 Lori and Gerry still talking about homosexuality, and how people really need to understand them.

Now convo goes to dead ants..

Lori is saying about how BB came to get her, she lives in the country, something about worms, then the horse flies come after that???? She was sitting on her picnic table, she had no idea and was wearing shorts and shirt, horse flies everywhere and landing on her, then Lacy tells her she is covered in horse flies batting them etc and the cameras are on her, she said the concept of being camera was funny, but her 14yo was not laughing. CBS were in the backyard filming her saying she was laughing about it, she said it was a very funny moment

Lori: she loves dry humor, her fav comedian is Marcellas this week LOL..

Gerry: he said M's story is a little different and too much information, of a story he told last nite.

Mlpattison

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 08:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
(First time poster)
Feed 3-
Gerry and Lori are up outside drinking coffee and smoking. Still talking about ants and other critters.

Feed 1-
HG Sleeping

Feed 2-
HG Sleeping

Feed 4-
More of a distance view of Lori and Gerry outside.
They are tlaking about when CBS came to get them for the show...
Lori loves Dry humor...saying her favorite comedian currently is Marcellas...both laughing.
Now they are saying they are learning too much info about Marcellas...saying that he's giving too much info on being gay. But Lori saying "bless his heart maybe he is just overwhelmed with being 'out'"
Talking about having a HOH in everyday life...in the 'real world'. Decision making, etc.
G- Saying maybe he came on too strong with the whole ant thing. Saying he is trying to learn about himself...maybe he's too self centered. His own family tells him that...validates it that his 'new' family here saw the same thing...

Aussiedeb

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 08:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Gerry told Marcellas to behave like a man, G is all for the promise keeper movement. There is one person who makes one last decision. (plane going over)

G was saying he doesnt like woossy ass males.. Being a man is being in charge not like a dictatorship, or like he was about the ants, but he needs to learn not to be like that too much. Get everyone involved not be too bossy etc..

(this is a great convo here people, but I need help...)

Eggie

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 08:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Gerry and Lisa general topic discussion:

L: hetero couples don't walk around talking about what they do behind closed doors, so why are we curious about what gay couples do - people should learn to accept people for who they are, or walk away - I have gay friends, a lot of different friends - you have to get to know them to understand them

G: i'm very sympathetic to the Promise Keepers - there has to be a person who makes the final decision, a head of household - it could be the woman, but someone has to be in charge - it is important to me to manly, to be in charge - i think feminism has gotten out control, women should be allowed to do what they want, but some jobs require an aggresivenss the only men have (i.e. fighter pilot)

Eggie

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 08:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
L: if you were in an accident and became mentally incapacitated, your wife would be lost since you have been the final decision maker

G: for the first 7 years we were married, Deborah paid all the bills, then one day she gave him the books and told him to take care of it now. When he left to come on BB she "really stepped up to the plate" to take over the bills again. [People i'm trying very hard not to editorialize here, but my feminist side is screaming to come out]

Spygirl

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 08:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cam 3:

Lori: Do you hear what I'm saying?

G: That is very astute what you just said b/c we listen very differently. It is "do you hear what I"m saying". Sometimes women misunderstand what we're saying b/c of it. We process differently. Deb (his wife?) still doesn't really get it yet. I have to stew sometimes.

Lori: Men are from mars women are from venus.

G: Yeah. Exactly. And that is not a bad thing. You know, I like teaching religion. I preface it with I'm making no statement. I just tell how all these religions work. Each religion is like a club with all of these rules to obey. (gives examples)

This continues into a conversation about muslim, jewish, and jehovah's witness. Now talking about jehovah's witness and how he explained it to his students.

(sorry, I can't stay)

Mlpattison

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 08:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
G saying he loves talking to Danielle...how they have arrived at the same place through different roads.
L saying she was very dependant on her ex hubby...he was the breadwinner. Big job raising jobs...was a paying job for L...G agrees it is a job for everyone. G says he was Mr. Mom for a while. Not a good thing for his family
His wife, Debra wasn't comfortable being the breadwinner. He'd do domestic chores but not a lot...saying he should have done it all since he was at home. He admires any woman who can do all that since he has to for a while.
Talking about the importance of raising their children. L saying she became condition to this lifestyle. She went to her moms for 3 weeks hoping things would get better at home. Told ex- she wanted to work it out…didn’t want to give empty threats about leaving over and over again…she stayed 5 more years. Waiting for what they had before to come back. She said she was sitting around waiting for it to happen and it never did. Life had changed for them and they couldn’t adjust to what was different…he biggest battle was with the moral issue of ‘for better or for worse’

Treasure

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 08:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Gerry and Lori are discussing men and women: how men like to take over by nature, men learning to compromise, men learning to listen, the whole venus vs. mars thing...

Gerry's opinion that men and women being different is not a *bad* thing.

Now Gerry is talking about how religions are like individual clubs with rules. Discussing Islam, Christianity, Jehovah's Witnesses, tenets of different religions.

Gerry is talking about his students prostelsizing (sp?) in class, and having to tell them to have other peoples best interests in mind, not just their own.

Lori is now talking about being a stay at home mom for 11 years. How you have to structure in the home, understanding and compromise with the husband.

Gerry is talking about how teachers and moms are both very necessary jobs. He says he was a stay at home dad, wife didn't like being the only bread winner, Gerry didn't "deep clean" the house, only dusted.

Lori is discussing how the mom, kids, everybody, changes all the time. How kids need parents to shape them.

Lori talking about a trial seperation from her husband. Three weeks away with the kids at her moms. She says she told him she wanted to work it out, but would not come back just to threaten to leave again. Says she went back, stayed for 5 years, waiting for what was, what they had, to come back and how that just doesn't happen. Says her biggest battle was "for better or for worse". They've now been divorced for three years.

Gerry is now talking about being married for 28 years and how society has made it "easy to hit the road".

They're now talking about how she's a pointer (poker) when she talks and how rude that can be.

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