Avrey258 | Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 04:29 pm     If Danielle "has realized" what affect her actions have had then I hope the same goes for all the other houseguests. The other houseguests need to realize that they were mean and nasty too. This is definitely not a one way street and I hardly think we should only expect this "realization" to happen only for Danielle. I don't know why her actions carry any more weight than the others. |
Oregonfire | Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 04:58 pm     Yes Avery! Thank you for pointing that out. I agree wholeheartedly. |
Realrealityfan | Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 05:19 pm     Yes, but the other hgs may have been mean and nasty but they didn't send an e-mail to a webmaster saying that it could be posted..Danielle should have followed her own advice "keep your eyes open and mouth closed" or in this case..hands off your keyboard..She could have sent a personal note to Amy..but she used this forum..so it is now "open season"...If she hadn't sent this, the whole thing would by now have been forgotten.. |
Trulyscrumtious | Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 05:19 pm     Call me crazy, and this is just my opinion, but I think the reason most people are talking about Dani and any realizations she may, or may not have come to, and not commenting on any of the other houseguests 'realizations', is because this is a thread about Dani & her email, lol. I'm sure when (or should I say if), one of the other houseguests writes such a letter and invites the public into their 'drama', everyone will move on to talking about them.  |
Oregonfire | Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 05:39 pm     People were already talking about Dani on that site (and here) because Amy went into chat and brought it up. That's when the whole thing really got reved up again, in my opinion. Yes, Dani said something in an interview about Amy, but that seemed like not such a big deal to the online fans. Personally, I think Amy bringing it up with her fans while they were saying how much they hate Dani really blew up the situation, whether intended or not. I say there is some mutual responsbility here for not keeping the situation off the internet. (Amy and Dani) |
C1mag | Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 06:33 pm     I have not been to this site in a while and Dani is still getting negative reviews? This time for an email. what a shame! I think it shows pure class. None of the other trash talkers have made this much of an effort. Perhaps she had no other way of getting a clear message to Amy that in spite of it all she was sorry and she loved her. Perhaps in this case it was best to do something public. Some people need public appologys and the Amy we all got to know would fall into that category. There was a suggestion that this must mean that Dani is "upset" after winning second place. What a strange assesment. She made it clear... even before that final vote that she accepted and knew she was only taking home the 50K. Too analyze this woman on every move seems very petty. Sorta sad to see this still going on after the show. I thought her email was sincere and showed a level of class that many of the other hg's have lacked when aknowleging the game. Amy feels the appology was just as sincere. |
Screeminmeemie | Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 06:42 pm     "Now, did I say bad things about Amy in the house. Absolutely. When Amy drank I hated the way she acted." Dani's behavior the last night in the house when she was so very drunk and behaving in a very embarrasing way is the thing that sticks in my mind. Lisa was begging her to calm down, telling her that her kids had to go to school the next day and face their friends. Dani ignored it completely and continued to act and talk trashy. She has some nerve talking about Amy's drunken behavior. I didn't enjoy Amy's behavior when she was drunk, but I was totally embarassed for Danielle and for her family. I also felt badly for Lisa that night. Danielle needs to take a long hard look at herself. Maybe a session with Dr. Phil would do her good. I would enjoy that one. |
C1mag | Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 06:55 pm     She has already said she should have said nothing about Amys drunk state.... From Dani: "Should I've kept my mouth shut? YES! Not for the game, but in respect for Amy's feeling" .... I guess sometimes in a quick pass of judgement sometimes we don't read things clearly. Lets hope that it was a mistake in not reading it clearly. Dani doesn't need Dr. Phil. However, I think those that hold her to some strange standard might want to think about looking into therapy. The letter was sincere. |
Realrealityfan | Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 07:14 pm     That email to Amy was about as sincere as Danielle's pledge to Marcellas that she had his back and it would be the two on them in the finals..She has shown that she is a lst class liar..but even if this thread goes to 500 posts, at this point everyone has dug in and no one is going to change their opinion of Danielle..She will have the same loyal fans she had when the final vote was announced and likewise, those who were cheering when the vote count was 9-1 for Lisa are still very happy. |
Muse | Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 08:06 pm     Why would Danielle feel a need to lie now? I doubt that she thinks she needs to tap into Amy's fan base. It's hardly like Amy's fans (or the fans of any HG from any season of BB, really) have the power to help Amy or anyone else. I'm sure that Danielle feels a little hurt by the bashing going on in this thread and other similar threads, but she made a point to make it clear that she wants to stay in touch with Amy. I don't think she'd do that if she really didn't like her. It'd be *much* easier just to avoid BB sites, just like most of the Survivors do. I just don't understand why people are upset about the letter. Saying that what Danielle said about Amy in the house was unforgivable - well, that's one thing. Depends on how you look at it (although I'm puzzled as to why anyone would think it's okay for Amy to forgive Marcellas, but *not* Danielle...). But I thought the letter was nice. Seemed genuine. |
Avrey258 | Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 10:11 pm     I was actually more embarassed by Amy's drunk behavior. Danielle's last night in the house was only on the internet. Amy had whole shows about her bahavior and how it affected alot more people. |
Risa | Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 10:30 pm     I was far more embarressed at Dani's drunken behavior as she held herself up to be a "christian". Dani's behavior disgusted me, always. |
Shortnsweet | Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 11:26 pm     Drunk in public = embarrassing actions = nobody wins! BB gave the houseguests alcohol so they would be entertaining. I am sure that they were more embarrassed by their own behavior than any of us could have been by watching their behavior. |
Cmore | Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 01:31 am     Risa Wrote: "I was far more embarressed at Dani's drunken behavior as she held herself up to be a "christian". Dani's behavior disgusted me, always." I am with you on that Risa 100%, but along with the "christian" thing, Dani is also "married with children" , while Amy is young and single. I would have been horrified, as a teenager to see my mother act that way in front of anyone, let alone in front of cameras with the world watching. |
Itsallgood | Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 07:17 am     Ditto Cmore! I totally agree. I know my children would of been horrified. |
Willow | Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 07:36 am     Wow I missed this thread until now. It's amazing the assumptions made... kind funny actually Here is the REAL STORY Danielle sent the email to me to read and forward to Amy. "I" personally asked her if I could post the email stupidly thinking people would like to read her side of the story. She agreed to let me post it. She did not send the email and ask me to post it for some "public forum". I thought it was a nice note and I wasn't much of a Dani fan. I thought it would be fun to post Amy's reply but after readng so many notes from people thinking it should have all remained private in the first place, maybe its true. |
Spygirl | Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 07:54 am     This is a sad state, isn't, it, Willow? I'm glad you posted the real happenings and put an end to the assupmtions. I'm fully ready for BB3 to be behind us |
Maris | Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 08:05 am     I would be more interested in knowing whether Amy thought it was a nice note. I wasn't impressed particularly with Danielle mentioning Amy's drinking. What Amy's behavior under the influence of alcohol had to do with Amy not voting for Dani escapes me. She implies that Amy didnt vote for her because she made a comment about her drinking. Maybe it had something to do with all other things she said about Amy behind her back including the lies about her not wearing underwear and flashing Jason. Those were not criticisms they were vicious attacks behind her back. As I said I would be very curious to know whether Amy considered it a nice note. I doubt we will ever know. |
Spotbiter | Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 08:59 am     Just a random question after reading all of the moral judgements of Danielle: How SHOULD someone play to WIN BB? |
Kristylovesbb | Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 10:30 am     Play it just like Dani did except leave out the personal attacks, the mocking, the pretending to be your friend while trasing them to the other hgs. Don't promise to have someones back if you don't intend to keep your word. DON'T get drunker than anyone in the house hump the bed and trash them for their drinking, and NEVER call someone the devil! |
Oregonfire | Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 10:44 am     Hmm. The wording of the letter seems like it was intended for Amy's fans because it addresses them directly and talks about Amy in the 3rd person. Not trying to be nitpicky, but it's a little strange. I certainly can see how a reader could assume that Dani posted the letter for public consumption. Just making an observation is all. |
Bailey | Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 11:00 am     Spotbiter, you need to do 2 things in order to win.. 1. You need to stay in the house without getting evicted. 2. Getting people to vote for you in the end. Danielle accomplished task #1 beautifully, but she failed miserably at task #2. |
C1mag | Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 11:22 am     Hey thanks Willow! Just as I figured! The original thread was about the "email" and it has turned into yet another forum to attack Dani. Sorta funny.... I will always wonder what someone like Marcellus or even Amy would have said in order to convince the Jury that they should have won. Surely it would not have been based on their comments about the others. I truly think that Amy and Dani will remain good friends. Time heals any wounds over words. |
Spotbiter | Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 11:27 am     Kristy, based on what I watched, Dani stayed in the house BECAUSE she did those things. As Bailey points out, you have to stay in and you have to get votes. That's why it's a tough game- no one has really figured out how to do both. Staying in the house means screwing people over, which costs votes. Maybe "riding the coattails" is the only way to victory... |
Realrealityfan | Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 11:37 am     .Isn't that just about what Will/Lisa/Eddie did?? Nicole and Danielle seemed to forget that the evicted houseguests were the ones who would determine the winner...Also, it is one thing to spend all the time throwing or thinking you've thrown competitions for HOH & both Nicole and Danielle claimed they "played that game" but when it really counted they were not up to the challenge..They both felt they could have won HOH whenever they wanted to. When it actually came down to do it, they were not able and that is why neither of them were able to achieve their real goal which was not the 50K but the 500K... |