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Meggieprice

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 01:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As a matter of fact, I do like Amy. I listened all night, as I do every night. Amy got jealous and it had nothing to do with their plan to embarrass Jason. It was selfish and childish.Lisa kissed Jason for the chat people as she had agreed to and Amy just couldn't stand to let her have that moment. I felt bad for Amy as she had said in the hot tub that most people don't like her. She couldn't help herself acting like that, it is an old old pattern for her.

Secretsmile

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 01:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
But as far as kissing in the house, Lisa wins, she and Chiara did the tongue thing in the HT that one night, so that's 3 for Lisa and 2 for Amy. HHHMMM...

Whit4you

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 01:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Meggie - LOL Lisa kissed Jason 'for the chat people' - I'm sure had they asked her to kiss oh say Gerry she woulda jumped right on the opportunity wouldn't she have? I'm sure Lisa's intentions were purely innocent - yup yup :) I guess your right Amy got jealous over nothing - and ya know - she's the only one on earth to ever do so. It just proves how unique she truely is - you go girl... one of a kind the only gal who'd get jealous of the 'pretty girl' kissing the guy you've kissed earlier today. :)

Watching2

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 01:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't dislike Amy. I just thought her voice and actions on the feeds last nite were obnoxious and getting on my nerves. I DID think it all started out as a planned "joke" on Jason. They all knew the internet had requested Lisa kiss him and wear his shirt. It IS funny how different people see different things at the same time!!!! I was totally shocked to go read after I posted that others thought it was hysterical when I was just SURE everyone would have to be getting as annoyed as I was!!!!

I don't think Lisa would be going after Jason to kiss him had it not been requested. She was laughing when the question was asked. And come on...this isn't like it was any HOT KISS..it was a peck!!!! A little peck!!!! There was NOTHING passionate about the kiss Lisa and Jason had and it seemed like they were both being silly and cracking up over it.

Like I said, if Amy's behavior was planned... it just went on too long FOR ME!!!! Plus I was wearing headphones so the rest of family doesn't hear it... it WAS after 4am here.... LOL Busted...an internet freak!

She doesn't bother me at all times..... Amy or anyone else for that matter, would have gotten on my nerves going on that long and loud! nuff said. :)

Meggieprice

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 01:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whit- when did I say this was behaviour unique to Amy on the planet? She is just a little bit more visible than most women throwing a jealous fit. Shes on the internet 24/7 and thus her behaviour is commented on.

Gidget

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 01:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I say empty a few Citronas and spin 'em

Meggieprice

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 02:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Gidget

Sbeachy

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 02:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was watching the whole time, and started out really funny! All the girls were teasing Jason the whole night, picking on the only boy in the house. I thought he handled it extremely well!
Amy got really carried away when Jason said that Lisa was a great kisser, he took a breath, and said Amy was a very good kisser too. This is when her insecurities acted up, and she "played" hurt WAY to long. I think her feeling's really were hurt, but she realized how she was acting, and then apologized.
BTW...Anyone remember when Dani, Jason, & (maybe) Lisa said it was probably boring on the internet, and they should plan a fight or something with Amy. Kinda like they just did a little bit ago when they tried to bust Amy for singing, when it was really Jason!!!

Onlyhuman

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 02:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Gidget...

I was listening to Jason speak earlier about how much he enjoyed his day away with Amy and how much he enjoyed getting to know her away from the house. I wonder if this has something to do with it the whole jealousy thing.

I'm guessing that Amy had a pretty good day as well. Maybe it even made her feel kind of special, like Roddy used to make her feel, but without all the Chiara/Marcellas/Game drama. Then Jason kissed her in the storage room. Not a big deal, and yet...

So Amy is feeling pretty good about herself. She might have even told the DR how special Jason is...not that they are boyfriend/girlfriend, just that she enjoys their time together. She may even have had that silly, girly look on her face.

Then Jason kisses Lisa and Amy gets a little knot in her stomach, especially when Jason says that Lisa is a better kisser. She has to wonder all over again if she is getting played. After all, this is similar to the Chiara/Roddy situation. She's probably wondering...what is wrong with me, why do I do these things? And she gets upset, though she really can't say why. It's a whole bunch of feelings that are too confusing to figure out, especially when she's had too much to drink.

Factor in the teasing of Danielle and it gets completely blown out of proportion. She loses control of her emotions and whines and whines, which just irritates everyone, because she is unable to express her concerns, mainly because she is struggling to understand them herself.

Or, I could be projecting WAY too much and she really is just a spoiled, selfish drama queen. What do I know??? :)

Bernie

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 02:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe we should have the thread heading changed to - "The Three Kisses", because it started about the one Jason gave Amy in the storage room, progressed to the one Lisa and Jason had 'for the internet' and then the one Jason gave Amy, after that. Anyone who has been away or not watching could get very confused, with all these extra kisses!
Amy sang in the hot tub last night ... 'a kiss is just a kiss'
I'm thinking that Jason won't be a bit surprised to read all this when he gets out, but Amy and Lisa are going to be gobsmacked!

Bernie

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 02:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good points, Oregonfire :-)

Dntx4bb3

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 02:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Meggieprice said "Lisa kissed Jason because she promised the internet folks during the chat."

I for one am glad she did not keep this promise!

(Copied from the LF's...and I heard her say it myself)

"Lisa, you think you could wear one of Jason's shirts one night to give us something to talk about? I will wear that shirt tonight with nothing else on underneath it. Laughs. I promise!"

I for one think this is just TACKY!!!

Bbholden

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 02:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It was all staged... and yes, Amy carried on a bit.. but she has been on the outside looking in this entire show.. last night she was allowed to be part of the gang and she wanted to fit in.

Danielle started this whole thing about what the two girls should do... in fact, if anyone was jealous for real, it might have been Danielle.. but only slightly.

Lisa made a promise to kiss Jason... Jason kissed Amy in the SR and then they found out it had gotten on camera... and that led to Lisa "pretending" to be jealous...

They two girls, with encouragement from a very very "I have needs" Danielle, planned to sabotage Jason into some harmless hanky panky teenage kissing... just for fun.. my goodness they have NOTHING else to do and Jason was all for it.

None of them were awful or horrible.. except.. Danielle began using sign language to talk about Amy to Lisa... and Amy caught on and was hurt. Then Danielle made a point of telling what she signed to Lisa to Jason, again, leaving Amy out of the group.

For the first time... Amy felt loved and part of the group, but Danielle could not let the night end that way... I might be wrong or over stating the fact that Danielle was mean, but to me, and I admit I'm an Amy fan... it was sour grapes and it made sure Amy knew she really was NOT part of the group. Amy felt hurt. The night ended with Amy knowing they talked about her in sign language and once again feeling sad.

I watched the entire thing. I am reporting it as honestly and as unbiased as I can, but I'm human and I'm definitely an Amy fan.

Jason told Dani more than once his kissing was all about strategy. It's in the live feeds.

Bbholden

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 02:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just read what I posted and I sound so anti-Dani and that is not the truth, not last night anyway.. until.. until.. I mean, for the first time, I actually enjoyed watching Dani while she let down her hair and got a buzz going. It was cute. Lisa was adoreable.. Jason was just Jason as usual.. a nice kid. But definitely just a kid, regardless of his age.

I was enjoying watching the fun... and it was all just fun.. but you know... Danielle cannot hide her true self no matter what.. and she wanted to hurt Amy because Amy was feeling so good and feeling like she was part of the group.

Danielle could not let that be... she HAD to make sure Amy knew she was NOT part of their group. Other then Danielle ending the night with a slap in the face to Amy... it was all fun. However, not Lisa, nor Jason told Danielle to knock it off... they in fact went along with her... and Amy covered up her head and that was that.

I really must say that if I sound biased.. I guess I am.. I truely dislike Danielle, and Jason to my mind is not close to the ideal man.. he's just a mama's boy to my mind. Sorry, but I had to be truthful and I had to let out this little rant.

Gina8642

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 02:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bbholden

If what you say is true, than Dani again comes accross as two faced. Earlier in the evening Dani was being so nice to Amy, telling her how they all liked her and apprciated her. It breaks my heart that she (Dani) goes back on that stuff. It is really just awful.

Early in the game many of the HGs were accusing Gerry of saying absolutely anything to fit in. Dani is sorta doing the same thing. She is always saying exactly what the person she is speaking to at the time wants to hear. Five minutes later she is dissing them. (Like telling G it was ok to wash his clothes in the sink. Like her telling Roddy she trusted him. Like telling Chiara how great and funny she was. Etc...)

I am just sad now. I am really bummed that this behavior is being rewarded in this game.

Abbynormal

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 02:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yet again, perception is everything. I watched the whole thing also, even posted "Is Amy for real?" Now some are saying it was all planned. Ok, if it was, then Amy deserves some kind of an award. I have never seen a grown woman hide under covers for 5 minutes straight whining while 3 other people are literally begging for her to tell them what is wrong.

IMO the mood changed and changed fast. I was embarrassed for her. It went on way too long and I feel they were all put out with her to some degree.

P.S. I am not an Amy disliker.

Bbholden

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 02:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gina, what I posted was true, and Danielle signing to Lisa, telling secrets about what she signed to Lisa was true... How I perceived it might be slanted... because like I said, I'm no Dani fan... but it did happen, and that is how I personally saw it.

Yes, to me, Dani is two faced... a liar.. and a jealous woman. Jealous that she was not able to join in... she was repeatedly saying that Jason was lucky she was a married woman.. and I think she took it out on Amy.

Now don't get me wrong.. Amy did get a little overboard.. but that's Amy... no one else was upset or jealous... until Danielle started to sign about her to Lisa. Then they all three got into their little clique and Amy was on the outside again. It was sad.

Bbholden

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 02:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Abby, yes, she covered up for 5 minutes... maybe more. But you left out the reason why.. not the kissing.. but because Danielle and Lisa were signing, and Amy caught on and told them so. Danielle then whispered what she had told Lisa with the signing, to Jason... It's in the live feeds and if I could cut and paste I would... I am not making this up.

Again, of course it is perception, but who is to say who's perception is the most accurate??? We must go along with our own gut feelings, and perhaps read the LFs again. I just did and I feel my perception is how I truely see it.. but I do respect your opinion as well. We must agree to disagree.. but with good fellowship.

Meggieprice

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 02:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It was reported that she signed Casanova, and also the word Jealous.

Abbynormal-we saw the same thing. They had been having a great time and then it tuned bad when Amy started pouting and making herself the center of attention. I groaned because I like her and I hate it when she acts that way. Poof- the happy light mood was gone.

Watching2

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 02:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, I have not been a Danielle fan, but in her defense, when she and Jason were talking in the yard earlier and Jason mentioned enjoying the cruise w/Amy, etc., I "thought" Danielle was being very nice about Amy. I've heard her say many nice things about Amy when she was NOT there! I think we all get too caught up in who we like and don't like and are always looking for alterior nasty motives on the part of those we don't like.

I also think the four of them truly like one another from what I've been watching. I think things just carried away too long, and I've been part of those deals myself. Sometimes you just can't stop yourself from being silly or over the top when it's long past time to stop! I have a daughter who does this continually and I LOVE HER TO PIECES, but I will tell her, OK... that was funny 20 mins ago, enough already!!!! And I have tons of nice things to say about her.... LOLOL

If anything last nite, I thought the other houseguests were trying to comfort Amy when she seemed to be really upset. But as they say, perception is everything.

Abbynormal

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 03:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
BBholden, I agree, we will agree to disagree. On my live feeds, the signing was after all the you hurt my feelings crap. After Dani told her to save the drama for her mama. So, yes perception is everything and a bag of chips. :)

Ministryoftruth

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 03:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The bottom line is that Amy was a bit over the top with the drama, but Dani does try hard to exclude Amy whenever she gets a chance.

Think about it. Dani knows/thinks that Lisa or Jason as HOH will bring Dani to the final 2, but she knows/thinks that Amy as HOH would bring Jason to the final 2. She (Dani) must continue to exclude Amy and make sure that Jason votes out Amy this week. Then Dani can just sit back ride in to the finals with whomever she throws the HOH competition to.

It isn't personal . . . it's just business.

Phatcat

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 04:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Personally, I think Jason is stoopit for kissing either one of them, since they both have the 'epizoodic'. LOL Lisa said she had a fever yesterday of 101. Wonder how long it'll be before ol' Jason starts hacking and sneezing.

Guinevere

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 04:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it is personal with Dani; that's part of the reason I don't like her. She just has a mean streak, and she takes it out on those that she can, like Amy. She's a bully, and I think she makes herself feel better by making Amy feel bad. She has control issues. She can't stand it when Amy flirts or in some other way gets "above" herself. She seems to feel the need to smash Amy down when that happens. It isn't pretty.

Misslibra

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 04:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just because Jason kissed Amy does not mean no one else is allowed to kiss him. All three are single and free to kiss who they like. And the kiss in the storage room between Amy and Jason wasn't that big of a deal, just a peck on the lips. Jason just said the kiss in the storage room was a innocent kiss. It wasn't a passionate kiss by any means. I don't think Jason is interested in Amy other then friends. And Jason did say he enjoyed Amy company on the ship. Heck I enjoy Amy when she isn't drinking and whinning. But he did say Lisa is a better kisser. I think Jason has a huge crush on Lisa.