Archive through September 09, 2002
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Archive through September 09, 2002
Moderator | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 10:44 am     This thread is to discuss player strategies for winning the Big Brother game or predicting its outcome. No bashing of the character of the houseguests will be allowed in this thread. You may discuss houseguest actions and lies that can affect the outcome of the game, just leave out the value judgments on the character of the player |
Silversamba | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 10:52 am     Lisa needs to play for herself now and work against Dani and co. if she needs to. |
Litafreak | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 10:55 am     Obviously Lisa needs to stick to her game plan of sticking close to Dani & Jason this week. I think their 3 way alliance wants Mar & Amy out of the house. I will be surprised if Jason nominates anyone other than Mar & Amy this week... unless he puts Lisa up as a decoy against Mar or Amy. Lisa needs to win the next HOH to beat the alliance between Dani & Jason. If she wins next HOH & Noms them it will break up that alliance... Other than that she needs to continue being nice & friendly towards Amy. If they get rid of Mar this week Lisa will needs Amy to break up dani & jason. |
Spunky | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 11:13 am     Lisa's only move is to make sure she is in the finals with Danielle. She will have the 6 pack to vote for her and she'll be the winner. If she is with Jason she still wins because of the 6 pack. To get past Jason will be difficult however. |
Kalekona | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 11:18 am     I think she needs to be with anyone BUT Jason in the end. Right now Lisa and Jason are in the best position to win! And I would be happy with either of them. |
Muse | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 11:43 am     I don't think Lisa should try to break up the Jason/Danielle alliance by nominating the two of them next week if she wins HOH. That would mean alienating both of them, and that would really hurt Lisa's chances. Like it or not, Jason and Danielle want Lisa in the final three. Marcellas and Amy do not. So Lisa's best off just riding the J/D alliance to make the final three, then trying her very best to win the final HOH. I think she stands a good shot of doing it, too, since there's a good chance of Danielle throwing it since she's virtually guaranteed to be taken to the final two by Jason or Lisa. And I think Lisa would win against anyone at this point. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 12:33 pm     It's kind of difficult to make an assessment or give advice when there is another big "twist" coming up...it could be anything at all. But...if she goes along with Lisa and Jason to evict Marce and Amy, then she will be alone against those two. Maybe by the time they all get rid of Marcellas (hopefully this week) when Marcellas is nommed and realizes he is going, he will self destruct and spill all the beans and that will let lisa and Jason see just how much Dani is playing each of them. In any case, barring "twists" I think her best chance is if Lisa, Jason, and Dani are the final three, Lisa gets the last HOH and evicts Jason. I would much rather see Dani get evicted, but Lisa is hard to figure out...I don't know if she is completely snowed by Dani like Jason is. Dani is too analytical to not realize that she doesn't have a chance against Jason in the final two....she always talks about WINNING the game, not being first runner up...Because of this, I think ieven if Dani got the last HOH, she would bring Lisa along in lieu of Jason. In either case...if Lisa makes it to the final 2 with anyone but Jason, she wins the whole enchilada! |
Realtvfan | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 12:43 pm     Lisa's job this week is to keep her mouth closed, whether she is nominated or not. Marcy and Amy have both demonstrated bad enough behavior to get themselves nominated and/or evicted this week. Even if Lisa is nominated this week, she is not leaving. As long as she can keep her mouth closed and let the others do the talking/whining and the drinking. The only question is "Does Lisa realize this?". |
Krossd | Friday, September 06, 2002 - 01:43 pm     If Lisa wasn't snowed this last week ++ by Roddy, she isn't and won't be snowed by Dani or Jason. I agree, ride it with Dani and Jason....even Marc will likely side with her to take down Jason to give him or Dani a better chance, if he is still with her come that time. Marc doesn't have the alliance with Jason, but knows Dani does. I hope the HOH the week after next is one of memory - the kind Lisa is Good at! Remember she got the other one all correct! Fair is fair, they gave Amy the balancing POV (she should have thrown it, but hey, that's Amy - Lisa is no Amy, no Marc, and no Dani! Go Lisa! |
Spunky | Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 01:37 pm     Lisa could win the 500k if she survives the next nominations (she may be up against Jason). If Jason will make it to the finals with Lisa, she will win because of the 6 pack voting for her. So, what she really has to pray that she will be up with Marcellas (if he survives on thursday) and not against Jason, otherwise she may lose and get 3rd place. |
Craziel | Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 03:09 pm     If she wins POV this week she could eliminate Danielle easily by vetoing Amy on the condition she saves Marcellus. This is a no-brainer for Amy. With Jason unable to win the next HOH he may be screwed. Unfortunately I think it's smarter for Lisa to keep her mouth shut and continue flying under the radar. |
Wendo | Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 03:18 pm     My advice to Lisa, keep playing under the radar like she's doing. Don't make strong moves because it then puts a target on your back (you look like your playing the game.) Lisa needs to sit back and enjoy the ride this week. Let the others do the work. I wouldn't make a strong move by using PoV this week. Show your loyalty and respect basically. Craziel, exactly what you said in your last line of your post. |
Spunky | Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 04:39 pm     Jason never thought of putting up Lisa and she seems a faraway target still. I agree she should just keep neutral, don't make any deals, she's got nothing to lose and if Danielle wants to be up next time, let her!!!! Another chance for Lisa to win HOH and nominate Jason and Amy or Marcellas. She needs to drag Danielle to the finals for a sure win!!! |
Flier | Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 04:44 pm     Agreed on the Lisa needs to win POV and team up with Amy to get rid of Danielle point of view. Jason would have no choice but to put up Danielle and we also get to see Dani have a nervous breakdown on national tv once the POV is used and she gets booted. It would be classic. Lisa has to see that she is just being dragged along at this point. It's time she took her fate into her own hands. |
Spunky | Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 04:47 pm     But she needs Danielle in the end for a sure win. |
Lancecrossfire | Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 04:56 pm     Lisa should go for POV as hard as she can. IF she wins, goes to Dani and makes an offer: If Lisa doesn't use POV, Dani must promise/give word/swear to God that Dani 1) Will not nominate Lisa if she wins HOH, 2) will not vote to evict Lisa if Lisa is nominated. Because if Lisa uses POV, Dani must be put on the block--only one left. If Dani agres to it (and keeps her word) Lisa can not be evicted next week, because HOH can not vote, and neither can the 2 people on the block. |
Spunky | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 08:06 am     Yeah, she should make a deal with Danielle and it's about time she forces her hand. Danielle knows that she could still be up if Amy or Marcellas save themselves but she may win against either of the two considering the alliance they had for so long. Also if Amy or Marcellas save themeselves Jason would put Lisa and not Danielle up. So Danielle could make the same deal with Lisa. They're really both in the ...boat... Lisa should just concentrate on avoiding that nomination and she'll win the big prize even with Jason in the finals. (remember the 6 pack in the Jury) |
Dagny | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 10:14 pm     Lisa has to know she isn't a "good bet" in the end. No one would want to be up against her...cause she would win. (JMO) She needs to break down the alliances (Dani, Marc. and Jason) and try to take Amy to the end. That probably won't happen...but keeping Marc in this week just strengthens D's position. She needs to dump M this week.. J the next...and could go to the finals with either D or A. |
Eden | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 10:28 pm     Lisa should stick with Jason and Danielle and then try like hell to win the last HOH and choose Danielle. She'll never beat Jason in the final vote. She's assured a check against Danielle. |
Dagny | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 10:35 pm     Eden...the problem is both Jason and Dani SHOULD be gunning for her...before then. Neither would want to risk going up against Lisa. And it would be a risk if Lisa is in the final 3. |
Spunky | Monday, September 09, 2002 - 08:55 am     Well, Lisa, I guess you'll have to be nominated again, the "she devil" want so. Just keep your cool and don't forget that Amy is the logical sacrifice for Jason even in the event of a tie. So, hang in there and try mighty hard to win that HOH next time. |
Earthmother | Monday, September 09, 2002 - 09:00 am     She needs to stay with her game..Riding the pines has worked so far and I don't think she needs to do anything different now. |
Krossd | Monday, September 09, 2002 - 09:18 am     The only problem with Jason wanting Amy gone first is Dani and Marc are the voters, he only votes in a tie! This is VERY dangerous for Lisa if Dani does not live up to the word she gave to Jason and Lisa NOT to vote each other if they have to go in as a replacement in the event of A or M winning POV. The intention was to get Amy out, and she needs to get comfirmation on that. This is NOT the time for Lisa to be too quiet. Somehow, and non-confrontationally, Lisa needs to have a meeting with Jason and Dani, and talk to them how they ALL gave their word about not voting any of the others when on the block. FORCE Dani's hand, and to point out to Jason, and get it reitterated. Dani will (could) vote out Lisa unless Lisa does this, even then she still could, but she'd break a word she gave to Jason in the process. Then there is 3 more full days of PB & J, and no libations, that should play havoc - and I think Lisa handles that better than Amy (will). Last night Amy was ready to go out, wanted to get on with things outside....she's had enough, and likely knows (thinks) she can't win in the end anyway (since she was evicted once already in the minds of the jury). I do think that Jason likes Lisa better (she's nicer, doesn't bash and trash in the way Amy does, etc., gets on his nerves less, is a nicer girl/woman. AND Dani (and Jason) DID give their words to each other. I think he will hold Dani to that. If not then it will expose Dani's deal with Marc. (I know it would be a smarter move on Dani's part to vote out Lisa, BUT they did make this deal, and in Jason's eyes Lisa may not be as much of a threat to him as she is to Dani.) It should be an intersting week. Too bad they aren't allowed libations. Neat how that happens this week, but can Amy handle this week without food or libations? I think she will wear down, and literally want to go anyway. This gives Dani her out.) Keep watching, and keep the fingers crossed! |
Krossd | Monday, September 09, 2002 - 09:46 am     It really isn't looking good for Lisa at this point. Jason is really her only hope to stay in the game. I don't think he is as hung up on that original 6 thing (he liked most of them). Dani HAS given her word to Jason and Lisa, and aslo (in a way)to Marc, and this needs to be exposed. Jason may very well have to put Dani in, so HIS plan to take Amy out happens. It is the only sure fired way for it to happen. If he totally trusts Dani's vote FOR Amy to go, it may well be Lisa's demise. I think Lisa deserves to be there more than Amy. She has handled herself well in just about every respect. It REALLY is in Jason's hands. If he thinks Dani can't keep her word to Lisa then he has to put Dani up on the block (so she can't vote, leaving Marc and Lisa to vote, and Jason breaking the tie, keeping Lisa, as per the agreement he made with L and D. Do we think Jason is 1. going to see this? and 2. keep the only other outright (willingly given) word he gave in the house - to not to vote Lisa (or Dani) out if he had to put someone else up? (The symantics of his not actally having to vote if it is a tie, isn't Jason's style. He knows intent/truth of giving that word, it was to take out A or M.) "Hold on to your seats, it's going to be a bumpy ride." Betty Davis. Just a reminder, this is a tread for coaching Lisa, so those of you who want her gone, be mindful posting here. Thanks |
Glennknj | Monday, September 09, 2002 - 03:25 pm     Lisa, you've got a good chance to win this thing. You've got allies on the outside that probably will not blame you for switching sides when you did, and that means votes. If everyone perceives you as a non-threat to win, you may skate through, so keep your mouth shut about past events in the house and let them think whatever about what you did previous to Eric's eviction. |
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