Dani has NOT played the game well.
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Draheid | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 08:18 pm     I hate lima beans and flat tires in the rain! |
Wadsters | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 08:18 pm     I hate Broccoli...and don't even mention Anchovies (Sp?) I have not liked the way Dani has played the game from the start. I will cheer for whomever is beside her at the end...Jason, Lisa or Amy. This because I do believe she will make it to the final two. I see little difference in the words hate, dislike,detest and abhor. It's the context in which they are used. Insert either in the above statement, your choice. Back to lurk mode...... |
Twiggyish | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 08:22 pm     However, HATE or HATERS, says we can't have an opposing opinion without being labeled. That's what bothers me. sheesh. |
Draheid | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 08:24 pm     Jalapeño's burn going in and OUT!!  |
Jadeygurl39 | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 08:47 pm     LOL Draheid. I was gonna post but it got too warm in here.  |
Draheid | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 08:49 pm     Jalapeño's will do it every time ... oh wait, I brought those in late! Oh well, my bad! LOL |
Jaysgal | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 08:49 pm     Good talk, Keiffer, except: Jason has not applied the same standard to all other houseguests. He seems to have no problem instructing Amy or pointing out her wrong-doing. Secondly, Danielle seems to have no problem chastising individuals in the house, yet she's still there. Roddy had no problem rebuking houseguests for discussing others or rebuking them about their behaviour. Roddy is no longer there, but it is for a different reason. As I said, it's simple for me: I simply chose to withdraw my support for him. There's no such thing as fairness on whether or not I choose to extend my support to a houseguest. This is not some bartering going on, so fairness plays no factor and the strings attached are one-sided. If there were none, then my support would be unconditional. It isn't unconditional. |
Onlyhuman | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 09:27 pm     Okay, aside from personal attacks, here is another reason I don't think Danielle has played the game well... She seems to overdo the need for secrecy and manipulation. Take for instance the DR on Saturday's show in which Danielle talked about having to set things right with Amy after voting Marcellas out. Why did she feel the need to do that? Danielle was already HOH, she knew she was going to nominate Amy & Lisa, & she knew that Lisa was the one to stay. How did it benefit Danielle to try to play some mind game with Amy? Then she had to bring up the fact that she slyly worked in the topic about Roddy knowing to much, pointing out, in the DR, that she knew that Amy had spilled things to Roddy as well as Marcellas. She had a look of such glee on her face at tricking Amy like that, it blew me away. Afterwards, I just went, huh??? It gained her nothing and might even cost her a vote if Amy saw that and was shocked and dismayed by Danielle's actions. I've seen little examples of this all along, when Danielle seemed to play some kind of game just for the enjoyment of doing so. It just doesn't make sense to me, since it adds nothing to her game. She's doing it now, with the whole, we must keep our alliance secret. Who cares at this point??? There is nothing anybody can do. It all comes down to the last HOH. If she or Jason wins, their set. If they don't, one of them loses. But she (and Jason, to a certain extent) act like it's so darned important to hide their alliance. WHY???? |
Wendo | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 10:08 pm     Wow, such "hate" talk in the threads. I wish the moderator had been so astute when I was called a Roddy-hater. Ah well, as they say, timing is everything. LOL! |
Wendo | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 10:12 pm     Onlyhuman, I gathered that Dani wanted Amy to know she was the one who voted out Mar and didn't want Amy hearing about it from anyone else but her. And, I think she wanted Amy to know what her reasons were. Did it cost Dani a vote from Amy? Maybe. I just think she wanted Amy to know it was her. As far as Ja and Dani continuing to hide their alliance. Perhaps it has to do with the fact that overt alliances were picked off one by one and, while that threat really doesn't exist anymore, they may not feel it in the house. We know, but maybe they don't. *shrug* |
Onlyhuman | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 10:25 pm     Wendo, I get what you're saying, but I just don't understand why she felt the need to make such a big deal about it, talking about picking her words carefully, and then getting that sly look on her face when she spoke about knowing that Amy told Roddy things as well. Why does that matter? For such a smart player, it seems like she does silly things like this, almost to make herself look manipulative, and I don't get why she would want to do that. It's that kind of stuff that shocks people when they get out and see the show. Not only is it unnecessary, it may end up hurting her. There are times that I think they enjoy playing the "secret alliance game" a little too much and it makes me think that she takes pleasure in going so undetected. And I can understand her pride, but it's not like she should be bragging about it, since there is still the vote to get through. Think about tonight. They are all talking about how great it is to be in the final four, they love each other, blah, blah blah. Amy leaves and Danielle immediately brings up their final 3 alliance. Who does Danielle think Amy is going to blame for this slap in the face, when she hears about this and other things when she's evicted?? It's just crazy! |
Wendo | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 11:06 pm     Onlyhuman, I gathered the "picking words carefully" had to do with not promising to save Amy this week. Instead of saying "You have my word Amy," she said, "You have my heart", or something to that affect. Why does it matter? I dunno. Maybe she wanted Amy to know that it was difficult to evict Marcellas but it had to be done for the the game they are all playing. Is it manipulative? I dunno. But you think it might be, so maybe she's using a tactic. I honestly just don't know. I think Ja and Dani DO enjoy and take pleasure that their alliance has remained undetected. It's quite a feat really in a house of close quarters. It could've been exposed several times. As far as bragging. Well, it likely will hurt her. Perhaps she's just proud she's accomplised keeping it a secret. Regarding the final vote, I don't think Dani's really considered it as she has her game in the house. If she had, she wouldn't be going to the final 3 with Lisa and Jason. Maybe she feels that she promiesed Lisa and Jason to get to the final three and it was more important than winning. Who knows. As with most people, Dani is full of contradictions. Amy may blame Dani. As Dani says, so be it. Good inside game, possibly lousy endgame. Won't know for sure until next Wednesday! |
Twiggyish | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 06:23 am     Well as stated, Dani's comments may hurt her chances for winning. She hasn't considered the consequences of trash talking the former guests. (Several Danielle fans have already stated it, too.) I was Dani's fan until I heard her comments and trash talking. She's very focused on winning and will take down anyone in her way. The only reason Jason has stayed, is because he pretty much (except for one instance) plays her game. |
Earthmother | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 06:53 am     You're right Twiggyish. I have said this from the beginning. I think she has made a fatal error in trash talking the others, but she thinks it will be seen as business. I don't think the jury will see it as business because she brought the personal element into it herself. I did have to laugh last night when she made the comment about not mocking others, because she is a mom. Maybe it was the drinking, or maybe she really doesn't remember doing it since she is sooooo focused on being in the finals. I'd like to give her the benefit of the doubt, but it's a stretch. I won't even comment on the hater angle..been there done that. I will say that I have never hated anyone in my personal life, but have disliked many. My motto is "hate the action, not the person".. Hell I've even disliked those I love..lol |
Twiggyish | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 06:58 am     Earth, Yup, me too! |
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