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Gramma

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 02:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"Food for thought, huh??? "
sure is. Smells like a warm homemade apple pie to me. yummmmmmm ;)
btw.. regarding my above post, just finished reading a Chiara chat transcripts and a couple of Marc articles. It's a safe bet that both of them are definite Jason votes. I still could see Eric votimh for dani though.

Gina8642

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 02:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't want to. I want to wait until the next HOH is determined. I don't want to assume the final two is inevitable.

(Gina is going to go stick her head in the sand for the next few days.)

Kiersten_Love

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 02:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gramma, you are making me so very hungry...mmmmmmmmmm Warm apple pie with vanilla ice cream on top....yummmm

Why do you say that Eric could vote for Dani? I find that a bit odd...but I would like your view on it.

Ark

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 02:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
On LF, Jason and Dani are discussing who's votes they have. Jason is talking about nullifying Marci's vot.

Fruitbat

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 02:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Not good Jason. dum de dum dum

Landi

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 02:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i think it's a tie...
The vote will be Jason vs. Danielle

Lori-Danielle
Tonya-Jason
Eric-Danielle
Josh-Danielle
Chiara-Jason
Gerry-Jason
Roddy-Jason
Marcellas-Jason
Amy-Danielle
Lisa-Danielle
i think lisa will get eric to vote for danielle, as thanks to her for getting her (lisa) that far in the game.

then again... jason just might veto someone for himself. he does think danielle should win.so it could be a 5-3 win for danielle with danielle vetoing roddy, and jason vetoing marcellas. (WOULDN"T THAT BE SOMETHING?!?!?!?)

Phillymom

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 02:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think what Jason said on the LF (or at least how I took it) was that either of them (Jason or Dani) had reasons that they could nullify Marc's vote. So that sounds like he's not sure how Marc will go.

Carolm

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 02:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The Lizards must of told Jason & Dani that we are counting votes as now they are LOL
Jason is knocking out Marc Dani will prolly knock out Roddy
So now with 2 votes off Jason it would be a tie of 4 -4. Dani & Jason were both saying that if Lisa wins that- Dani will be okay if its Lisa & Jason and Jason said he will make quick exit so its Lisa and Dani at end.

I just saw a really good side of Dani(I'm sitting here in shock) so who ever walks away with the money really Deserves it.

Gramma

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 02:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kiersten asked "Why do you say that Eric could vote for Dani? I find that a bit odd...but I would like your view on it"

scroll up Kierston, on this page to the post I made at 12:40PM. I list the reasons there. :)

What555456

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 03:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lori-Jason
Tonya-Jason
Eric-Danielle
Josh-Danielle
Chiara-Danielle
Gerry-Jason
Roddy- Danielle
Marcellas- Danielle
Amy-Danielle
Lisa- Danielle

Jason vetoes Marc's vote.
Dani vetoes Lori's vote.
Dani wins 6-2.

Phillymom

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 03:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here's how I see it between Dani and Jason:

Lori -- Jason
Tonya -- Jason
Eric -- Jason
Josh -- Dani
Chiara -- Jason
Gerry -- Jason
Roddy -- Jason
Marcellas -- Jason
Amy -- Dani
Lisa -- Dani

That's 7 for Jason, 3 for Dani; so even if both Dani and Jason veto someone who voted for Jason, he'll still win 5 to 3. Hey, we should make a contest out of this when we know who the final 2 definitely are ... see who can get the most right when trying to predict who the jury will vote for.

Hermione69

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 04:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Eric said in a chat transcript a few weeks ago that he was surprised at the degree of manipulation of Dani and he thought it would cost her the big prize. I went back to the site to see if the transcript was still there and did not see that one, but saw one for both Eric and Josh who apparently chatted with bigbrotherlive3.com earlier today. This is from the one today:

ERICBB3: DANI IS A BIT MANIPULATIVE. CANT SAY IM A BIG FAn RITE NOW

This is the order Eric said he would vote:

ERICBB3: IF NOT LISE THEN AMY, JASON AND THEN DANI

Josh, however, said: I LIKE DANIELLE TO WIN IT AS A PLAYER AND AMY TO WIN IT BECAUSE SHES SO DAMN CLUELESS

http://www.bigbrotherlive3.com/josheric.html

You can see the complete transcript at that address. So unless something big changes, I see Eric as voting for anyone but Dani, while Josh will vote for Dani as a great player.

Just thought I'd post this since so many people think Eric may vote for Dani. He says not. Interesting, huh?

C1mag

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 04:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it could be interesting and someones thoughts could change just right before they vote. I'm not ready to guess how they would vote even by the things some are saying at this point. Hope this thread sticks around so we can take a better guess once the actual 2 are through to the finals.

Phillymom

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 04:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hermione, thanks for posting the link to that chat. I read the chat before, but couldn't find the link again. But the chat was just 2 days ago, on Monday I think, so it's very possible that this may be the way Eric and Josh carry their votes into the finals. Not definite, but I'd be surprised if they had a big change of heart at this point.

C1mag

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 04:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hahahaha I just figured out something about Erics order of who he would pick as the winner right now. Look at it closely... It has nothing to do with manipulation being a negative factor in deciding the winner. He needs to be honest and not hide behind that word because he told Lisa to go to Gerry to save them both and told her to lie if that is what it takes. Thats called lying and manipulating. It's funny how someone in the game is willing to do this type of play but once out it is not longer acceptable for the victory. What he is really doing with his vote is called the classic sore loser syndrome. His order of victory speaks volumes... Amy over Jason and Dani? That pretty much says it all. At least Josh understands that it is a game and not a journey down ethics lane. He's also not going to fault someone for playing the same game that many of the others played but won't admit.

We all knew that Eric would vote for Lisa but we also get the real reason to fault Jason and Dani over the other two. Jason helped evict him but I'm sure he sees dani as the one who made sure he would get the ax over Lisa. There's the real reason he doesn't want to give the top dollar amount to Dani or Jason for that matter, but he holds it against Dani stronger. They are the ones that beat him.

Just wish these people would be honest and not try to insult the viewers when they mention their time in the house and who they would vote for and why. Kudos to Josh for being honest and looking past all the crapola.

Muse

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 10:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Putting an asterisk next to those I'm not sure about...

Lori - Jason* (Danielle has bashed others behind their backs...Lori isn't a fan of that)
Tonya - Jason (Danielle has bashed her repeatedly)
Eric - Jason (said so in two chats)
Josh - Danielle (chat)
Chiara - Jason (chat, interviews)
Gerry - Jason (chat)
Roddy - Jason (interviews)
Marcellas - Jason (interviews)
Amy - Danielle* (I think she sees Danielle as a mother figure, and wants her to win the money for her family - plus Amy's pretty forgiving)
Lisa - Danielle* (wants her to win the money for her family)

So I think Jason would win unless he nullified the wrong vote (entirely possible, since he thinks Gerry and Marcellas are probably angry with him), Danielle nullified a vote for Jason, *and* Lori voted for Danielle. Even then it would just be a tie...and while everyone seems to think that Jason would win in that case, I'm not so sure. Danielle *and* Jason have a lot of fans, so I think it'd be close. So while I think Jason would probably win, I wouldn't bet on it. Not a big bet, at least. :)

Wendo

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag, excellent analysis of Eric's chat and comments. And, I have to agree. He's bitter and a sore loser. Grow up Eric, this was a competition for some big money. You didn't play right, no one else to blame but yourself.

And, MAJOR KUDOS to Josh for seeing BB3 for what it is. A game where one is supposed to be playing, not MTV Beach Party. Whether he votes for Jason or Dani, Josh just went up to the top of my list.

Phillymom

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 06:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
After watching last night's (Wednesday's) show, I'm not so sure Dani even has Amy's vote in the finals. I forgot how often Dani made fun of her and did "Amy" imitations. Jason has been extremely kind to Amy in his DR entries -- last night's was really sweet -- and if Amy sees last night's show, I think she'll give her vote to Jason. So if the finals come down to Dani/Jason, I think it's going to be a landslike in Jason's favor. I think Dani may only get 2 votes, so it wouldn't even matter whose votes are nullified, Jason would still win.

I also agree with the analysis of Eric's vote ... it sounds like a little bit of sour grapes, which I find surprising. I actually liked Eric when he was on the show, and I didn't expect him to act that way.

Wendo

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Phillymom, however, Amy is aware of the imitations, and has even asked Dani to do them. Amy's a unique person who doesn't appear to hold grudges. (Mar's nom speech of her.) So, while I could see her not voting for Dani, I also can see her giving her a vote because of her forgiving nature.

In addition, Amy said a couple of weeks ago that she doesn't care what people did in the house or said about her, no matter how dirty it was. So, we'll see. As I said, she's unique from the other evictees with respect to how she handles things.

Lovelynessa

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't understand how the houseguest who are evicted all of a sudden feel like they can jump on the moral high horse. Every single person who was in that house was guilty of manipulating, conspiring, and back stabbing. The difference between them and the two people who will be standing at the end is that they had less time to do it. If the final two were Roddy and Eric then we would be sitting here going over all of the mean and manipulative things they did to evict Lisa, Danielle, Jason, and Amy. The same goes for any two who make it to the end. Eric's chat was sour grapes. Give credit where credit is do. You were out played.

Wendo

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 01:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lovelynessa, exactly. That's my beef with the evicted HG's who've spoken out. They're holding those in the house to a higher standard when, they're standards in the house weren't much to speak of. IMO, that makes them hypocrites.

(Another example: Chi stating she wanted to rip Amy's larnyx out.)

edited to add...About Eric. He was trying to sell Josh down the river. I'd call that a backstab. But now, he's crying foul over Dani's backstabbing in the house? Riiiight Eric.

Floresmama

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 01:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa - Danielle
Amy - Danielle
Gerry - Jason
Lori - Jason
Tonya - Jason
Chiara - Jason
Eric - Danielle
Josh - Danielle ( I was happy to hear that he thought Danie woul win this morning during the interview. That means rumors of Roddy swaying the jury have been over-exagerated.)

I think that Jason will eliminate Marcellas vote(even though he shouldn't)
I think that Danielle will eliminate Roddy.

I haven't ever given Danielle much hope of beating Jason in a final vote but it looks like it might be closer than I previously thought. Especially if Jason eliminates Marc(incorrectly) assuming he will be more pissed at him for the elimination.

Phillymom

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
After watching tonight's show, it seemed pretty clear to me that the 4 ex-houseguests they showed (Tonya, Lori, Eric, and Roddy) will not vote for Dani to win no matter who she's up against. So if it's Dani/Jason, that's 4 votes for Jason. I think Jason also has Marc's vote, Chiara's vote, and Gerry's vote. I think the most possible votes Dani could get is 3, and I think the only one of them that is fairly definite is Josh. After tonight's pool competition, I don't even know if Lisa would vote for Dani.

Cameltoes

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Philly. Josh is the only one I'm sure would vote for Danielle. He swore to her in the house that he would give her a vote unless she was up against Roddy. Amy - I would say is likely but not definite. Other than those two, I don't see her getting any other votes.

Lizardsamongus

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 02:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think Josh would vote for D. Josh looked up to Roddy so much and he has been campaigning against D ever since he left the house. D has Amy and Lisa/Jason. That's it and one of those votes will be cancelled.

Wendo

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 02:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lizard, Josh has said in interviews that he would vote for Dani. That's why people have posted that Dani would get Josh's vote.

Letmeinthere

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 03:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
My take on voting:

Lori - Jason
Tonya- Jason
Eric - Jason
Josh - Danielle
Chiara- Jason
Gerry - Jason
Roddy - Jason
Marcellas - Jason (interviews)
Amy - Danielle
Lisa - Jason if she watches tapes
Danielle if she doesn't

Even if Jason veto's someone that would have voted for him he'll still win against Dani's possible 3 votes.

I wouldn't be surprised if he is in the final 2 with Dani that he tells the HG's to let Dani win. That is the type of guy he is. He genuinely wants her to win this game.