Dani's ego cost her $450,000.00!
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Bb3junkie

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 08:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I know that almost everyone has very strong opinions about Danielle. Either you love her or you hate her! Personally, I'm not a Danielle fan. However, I have to admit her game playing skill has been great! There is very little doubt she won't make it to the final 2, and she has never been nominated. The problem though, is that she needs to make sure people know how smart and ruthless she thinks she is. She has bragged about how much smarter she is than the other HG's. For playing the game so smart, she has totally ruined her chances in the DR. If only she had gone in there and said how bad she feels after she votes someone out, and would just remind them that it's a game, but how much it hurts her to have to do this, they would probably have so much respect for her and say she deserves to win. Just my opinion!

Lisad

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 08:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Shouldn't this be attached to another thread?

Stingerman

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 08:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well Bb3junkie if she or Jason don't win the HOH, and Lisa does she may LOSE EVERYTHING!!!

Lisa doesn't believe that she has bashed everyone in the DR like she said she has. (We know she has but Lisa thinks it's a lie).

If Lisa wins HOH she will dump Danni and go with Jason to the final 2.

I think Danni may have made the biggest mistake in keeping Lisa and not keeping Amy.

Maris

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 09:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You could be right stingerman. Amy is very loyal to Danni and I dont believe Lisa is. Lisa will pick Jason. That would be perfect. Does anyone know if they do the hoh competition tonight and if so when do they do the selection of the final two.

Ocean_Islands

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 09:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It's not over 'till its over.

Itsallgood

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 09:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I heard it was a 3 part competition (only heard this) so I doubt we will find out who is going to be HOH tonight. That info may be wrong so we will just have to wait and see. I'm so looking forward to Lisa/Amy (whomever stays cuz you never know with this group) winning the HOH contest.

Secretsmile

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 10:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh My Gosh! I never thought of it that way! You just may be right.

I'm still holding on to Dani's own words... Her first
alliance is herself and the money!

Catfat

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 10:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Not only Daniell's bragging, but her smirky little count-down and trashing people behind their backs. She should have kept her mouth shut. I, too, am definitely not a Daniell fan, but she play well by getting as far as she has. Too bad, Daniell, your ego got in the way.

Stingerman

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 10:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If Danni gets booted without winning ANYTHING!!!!!

I then think we will see THE REAL DANNI. I don't think she is going to be as calm as she has stated in the past.

If Lisa wins watch her drop Jason faster than you can say "HI"

Guinevere

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 11:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If Lisa wins HOH and goes with Jason insted of Dani, I will love her forever. Yes, I'm so petty that Dani ending out of the money would give me joy.

However, I don't see it. Even if Lisa doesn't believe that Dani has trashed any HGs, I think she'd still see Jason as bigger threat. I hope I'm wrong.

Llkoolaid

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 11:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If Lisa wins hoh, she will not go with Jason, she has a better chance of winning with Dani and she knows everyone loves Jason, and with Dani she just isn't sure. I don't think she is aware that she would probably win against all of them.

BB3junkie, that is exactly how Nicole played it last year, she used and manipulated just like Danielle and got to the final 2, but in her DR she would cry and say how sorry she was and no one bought it, in fact they gave the game to Will who in his DRs acted just like Danni does, telling them it is a game and she is playing it.

Crazydog

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 11:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Llkoolaid, Danielle does both. She tells it like it is in the DR but in her eviction videos and in the house she apologizes and sobs etc. It's two faced and I don't think anyone will buy it. If she had been sincerely apologetic without boasting about it in the DR then I think she would be in a much better position than she is now. Her tired eviction countdown was part of the $450,000 mistake.

Phillymom

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 11:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think it's Dani's ego that cost her $450,000 -- it's her mouth, and her lack of ability to keep it SHUT. Roddy's ego is big as Dani's (probably even bigger), but he didn't bad-mouth people, that I can remember. If I were one of the former HGs, hearing Dani say how smart she thinks she is wouldn't bother me as much as hearing all the trash talking.

Letmeinthere

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Its not over till its over. I'm not entirely convinced that Jason will vote Amy out tonight. They'd both be smart to keep Amy around. If she wins HoH they probably think that either of them will beat her in the final 2. However, that's not written in cement either. Lisa is much more of a risk to both of them, IMO. I don't know if either of them know who Lisa would take to the final for sure... and if that person could beat her there or not. As for Dani's ego keeping her from winning the big $$, who knows.. the past HG's might come to decide that she played the better game - regardless of other issues.

Wendo

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gee, this thread is familiar...

Crazydog, it's possible to feel bad and apologize, while still be playing the game to advance ones position. They're not mutually exclusive. The HG's aren't robots, they're human beings filled with contradictions. As to Dani boasting in the DR, yep, she's done it. During last night's show, Jason was boasting too. They're proud they've made it this far. In addition, she's never cried during her goodbye messages. Yes, she's cried in the DR, it's tough to knock people out who are your friends while also being your competition.

Philly, Roddy's strategy was to NEVER be honest in the DR, he said as much during his eviction interview. Because of that, one has to take his DR's with a grain of salt, because he wasn't being honest. Dani, on the other hand, is being honest. And, it's likely to hurt her.

As to Dani's ego costing her the big money, maybe. We won't know until we see IF she makes the final two, and, if so, how the jury feels about her.

Showmemoney

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So all of you sound like you have PROOF that the evicted HG hate how Dani does the countdown. I don't get it. Because it upsets you, doesn't mean it will upset them. Llkoolaid, you are right about Nicole last year... no one bought her insincerity.

I keep reading how great a game Will played last year, and I see no difference between him and Dani, except that she seems like a cool person who knows how to play for what she wants.

I wouldn't count her out of the big prize yet. You have no idea what the evicted HG are thinking. They are not watching the live feeds. Most of them, anyway. And a few of them have even said they aren't watching the TV show.... so....

Sassylady

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Dani wants a chance at HOH then they should keep Lisa. Amy is excellant at comps!

Dani's game could have been perfect had she not bad-mouthed the Hgs... She bad-mouthed and made fun of Gerry and Lori when not needed at all to advance in the game. It was pure meaness. This is ,to me, what will cause her to loose 450 Gs. Gerry and Lori's vote would have helped...but as many have said "It's not over till it's over.

Crazydog

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Showmethemoney, in each of their post-eviction interviews/chats, Eric, Chiara, Roddy, Gerry and Marcellas have said they would not vote for Danielle. They have all expressed disappointment/dismay over how deceived they were by Danielle and Jason.

Showmemoney

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hmmmm... so what if it was Danielle and Jason. Did they say they would vote for Jason? Have they already voted, because I'm pretty sure they have the ability to change their minds. I might be wrong about that. Are they allowed to change their minds?

Phillymom

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 01:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Showmemoney, sure they can change their minds, nothing is written in stone. But human nature doesn't change, and it's unlikely that all (or most) of the jury will have a change of heart between now and Wednesday. The former HGs are going to be hurt and/or feel used or manipulated by Dani, and, in my opinion, they're not likely to forgive and forget that easily.

There's been some comparisons between Will from last year and Dani. I think the big difference (and it's a huge one) is that Will was up against someone unlikable, and Dani is up against someone likable.

Maryk

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 01:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree very much with your last statement Phillymon, although I did like Nicole somewhat.

Maybe Dani's biggest mistake (when I mean mistake is the $450K mistake) is to align herself with two of the most likeable people in the house. Jason - the all around 'good guy' and Lisa - the person who was part of the biggest alliance in the house.

Lfprsrule

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 01:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think if the evicted HGs really thing about the game and playing the game to win, they will see that Danielle did play the strongest. Unfortunately I agree that her DR episodes won't win her any points. Anyone in the end with Jason is probably a loser at his point.

Creampuff

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 01:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I definitely want Jason to win the $500,000. As for the #2 spot, I really have no favorites. Danielle has played the game wisely I think and the fact that she constantly needs to toot her own horn (about almost everything personal to her) is a giant turn-off as far as I'm concerned. She only seems to have a somewhat humble attitude at certain times when she has an awareness moment that contains a realization that it might benefit her.

wish we could just give Jason $550,000 and be done with it!

Wendo

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 01:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maryk, but in Dani's mind it isn't a mistake. She has said numerous times now that if she doesn't make it to the end, she wanted Lisa and Jason to win the money. I respect the fact that she didn't keep a nasty person with her, but kept people who played the game as well as her, and nicer than her, likely at her own detriment.

She could've kept Marcellas in order to be a final two with him. She didn't. To me, that says a lot. *shrug*

Mrdisguise

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Why would LISA pick Jason over Danielle???

Crazydog

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa may take Jason if she feels she cannot defeat Danielle. Remember that she is completely unaware of the depth of the Dani resentment among the evicted houseguests. She has expressed concern that it would be difficult to defeat a mother. Especially when that mother has talked about how she just wants to win the money to provide for her family. Lisa seems to have seen through the "poor me" aspect but she might not be so sure about how others feel.

Eden

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Most thought Richard could never win the first Survivor, yet, he did. People can change their minds. Statements made the day after leaving the house when resentment is at its height may later be tempered to reasonability by reflection. I think it rather petty if they deny Danielle the prize because she played them better than they played her. A perfect example is Marcellas, who would have turned on Danielle and Jason had he remained but now he feels betrayed. Why? Because he got voted out before he had a chance to do the same, first!