Ark | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 09:38 am     Kent has finally realized that this is a game and you really do have to alter your "normal" behavior in order to win it. http://www.realitynewsonline.com/cgi-bin/ae.pl?mode=1&article=article2247.art&page=1 |
Crazydog | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 09:40 am     If only Kent could finally realize that he is yesterday's news. |
Sunrise | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 09:41 am     i got 12 pop up messages, way too many! every time i would click close another one would appear. so, i just came back here. couldn't take the time to read it. whatever, Kent. |
Ark | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 09:45 am     Aw come one Crazydog. Kent wasn't my favorite character in the house either but I have to admit that he was and is entertaining. The article is about his realization but it is also about this years BB3. And I agree whole heartedly with his take on how you have to play this game. |
What555456 | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 09:46 am     This is the same thinking that politicians employ -- and there is truth to it. Politicians reasoning is that if you want to do something worthwhile, you have to be in a position to do it. Therefore, you do what needs to be done, without breaking your most basic moral values (bend them? yes), to get the job you are after -- because only THEN can you do what you really believe needs to be done. |
Ginger | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 09:47 am     Funny artical! Thanks for posting it. I tend to agree with Kent--I like especially how he makes the distinction between character assasination and playing the game. |
Cameramanbob | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 09:58 am     That was fun - thanks! |
Blossumtree | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 10:02 am     I agree with kent too. can't believe it took him this long ot figure it out though. many of his points were valid, especially his idea that dani's one major flaw in this game is not taking someone in the final two who is more despicable or AS despicable as she is becauase it would make her chances of winning the game better. but that's not how she wanted to play, as she told lisa last night if she can't win it then she wanted someone she respects to win it. in my opinion she's played the game perfectly for 2nd place but she knows that and is content with that fact. kent's observations of roddy and marcellus are dead on and i think those two probably had the stupidest strategy in BB history. Roddy tried to single-handedly turn BB into a game about honour, big, fat, stupid mistake. and marcellus, poor boy was just too caught up in his own ego to see what was going on around him. |
Catfat | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 10:04 am     When the pop-up messages appear, don't try to close them, just leave them in place until you leave the site. If you close it, another pops up in its place, ad infinitum. |
Babyruth | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 10:09 am     Terrific article--thanks for posting the link! |
Sunrise | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 10:15 am     thanks, Catfat. i'll try again to enter kent's worldview. wish we luck. |
Costacat | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 10:15 am     I agree one hundred percent with him when he says "Lying and scheming is not only acceptable behavior in the Big Brother house, it is the only way to play the game to win. The only thing I think is wrong is character attacks and hitting below the belt." That's been my whole point. Lying is all about the game. Bashing someone is not. |
Scifi_Writer00 | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 11:51 am     I loved the article. Kent was my favorite from last, like Gerry was this year. They're the only ones I can even remotely relate (well, maybe Roddy as well). Anyway, I thought his analysis was right on, though I hope Dani somehow doesn't even make the final 2. On a side note, I only had one pop-up ad. I closed it and nothing else popped up while I was at the site. |
Spunky | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 12:56 pm     We seem to agree on many points, especially on Roddy and Marcellas and also on Danielle. What I liked most is his pointing out a big flaw in BB game, not the lack of honesty, but the personal attacks on the other hgs, name calling, etc... That's something that the hgs should be told not to do or cost them a penalty nomination. The scheming and lying is okay, not the personal attacks. Very good, Kent. |
Oregonfire | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 01:00 pm     I'm officially defecting to this thread, because the other one is making me crazy. |
Uhoh | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 01:19 pm     okay - i must have a leaky memory, or is it kent's that's leaky? i recall kent cozying up to whomever would have him, and this isn't bashing kent because i liked him fine. but my take on him was not that he failed to win because he was so honorable, but because he just wasn't very popular with them. once he wasn't accepted anywhere and was completely shut out is when he hung w/ bunky. but again - i might be misremembering. can someone help? |
Maris | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 01:21 pm     Uhoh, I can remember Kent walking around in his robe and getting on everyones last nerve. He kept calling them all freaks. I dont remember Kent being popular or honorable at all. |
Jan | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 01:24 pm     I think that Kent writes a great article!!! It was a great read. |
Cmc209 | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 01:26 pm     Hey folks - if you have problems with pop-up banners, hit CTRL-W on your keyboard - it will shut the active window... |
Wcv63 | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 01:27 pm     Maris self delusion is a wonderful thing!! I remember really really really really disliking Kent last year. He got on my very last nerve. I didn't find him to be especially honorable or filled with integrity. He however really bought into the whole "America's most honest man" hoopla and his self-righteousness made me want to scream. But that was just me. |
Crazydog | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 01:29 pm     I agree with Uhoh and Maris. The reason why Kent did not win the game is not because he refused to compromise his honor. Kent did not win the game because the others did not fit into his definition of morality and he let them know it. Kent lost the game because he didn't like the others, and in return they didn't like him. |
Crazydog | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 01:32 pm     Wcv, it wasn't just you. I disliked Kent more than any houseguest I've disliked this year and that is saying a lot. The holier-than-thou attitude was too much. His ego trip once his wife sent the banner declaring him "America's hero" was absolutely incredible. I have a feeling that his sour grapes attitude is applicable to his entire life and not just the BB game. He has some strange sense of entitlement that pervades through everything he does and writes. |
Curlyq | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 01:33 pm     It's amusing, but he seems to base his newfound belief on the idea that the reason Roddy got evicted was because he wouldn't lie to Amy. I guess he doesn't know about the lies Roddy did tell and how the others caught on. Frankly, I think Kent had it right the first time. He didn't lose because he was honest, though. He lost because he was able to see through the other players' strategies and they knew they wouldn't be able to fool him. He was onto Hardy's two alliances and Hardy turned him into the house scapegoat. |
Maris | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 01:37 pm     I agree 100% crazydog. I forgot all about that banner. It is interesting that Kent is the one houseguest that doesnt want to give up his fifteen minutes. Kind of reminds me of the highschool football player who is still talking about his days of glory thirty years later. |
Ark | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 01:48 pm     "Kent did not win the game because the others did not fit into his definition of morality and he let them know it. Kent lost the game because he didn't like the others, and in return they didn't like him." That is exactly what I got from his article Crazydog. In real life Kent wouldn't put up with personalities like those that were in the house with him and he wasn't willing to change himself to be someone nicer in the house. He's saying that in order to win, you have to be able to adapt and be the person that the HG want you to be. He couldn't accomplish that so there was no way that he or anyone like him can win this game. |