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C1mag

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
cassie... Yawn? I guess I don't get it!

Your negative comments on Dani I don't find to be a yawn. They are interesting. It is hilarious to me to read the myth that has snowballed. It's so far from the truth it's shocking at times but entertaining.

I'm also confused about "The Dani Posse" What is that?

C1mag

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah Dag I have watched the feeds and Marcellus was brutal in his comments about Amy, Gerry, and Tonya. Many times the evil Dani told him too cool it. The reason I keep reference him is because the words you are suggesting that Dani has said are in fact Marcellus' words. Thats the reason for bringing his name up.

C1mag

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dag your comments are VERY one sided right now! Marcellus on the porch with Dani happened AFTER the votes had been cast and the deed was done. He told her that thank God she kept her word because the result would have been as you suggested.... He did not go to Dani that mornig of the vote. We all saw it on the TV. It was Amy. However, I'm not gonna call you a liar. I just figure you misunderstood the time all of that stuff took place. I am referrencing voting day and after the vote.

Dagny

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag...you go ahead and be delusional. We could debate this till we are blue in the face. When it comes down to it... Only 10 other people get to decide if she is guilty of what has she said...or not.

They were there...we weren't...I think I will leave it up to them.

If you think your "spinning" of everything is helping Dani.. I vote NO. Quite frankly I am quite tired of posting something..only to have you tell me and other posters it didn't happen. It actually makes me dislike Dani more...cause your behavior is something Dani would promote. JMO.

Lynnann

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Like I said c1- you can try to explain Dani's actions 'till pigs fly but the entire nation saw her vicious nature tonight and ya can't put that back in the can -skippy.

Dagny

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag...I will search out that conversation to prove you didn't hear it. I KNOW I heard it... I am pretty sure your wouldn't try to post a out right lie...I honestly think you missed the conversation.

Lisad

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Are you guys talking about when Amy came in the house and wanted Chiara out? If you're talking about what I think you are talking about...

Amy and Marci were in the (I believe) the HOH room. Amy wanted Marci to talk to Dani and ask regarding her vote re Chiara. Marcellus was on the bed and told Amy he couldn't do that and suggested Amy talk to Dani directly.

Amy and Dani had a meeting. Amy asked Dani to vote to get rid of Chiara. Amy was sitting on the bed and Dani in the chair facing her. They had a heart to heart about it. In this convo - Dani said she really wanted Roddy to go and this would be so hard because she felt he was a serious threat. She told Amy that if the plan didn't work and she voted for Chiara to go & Roddy stayed she'd be heartbroken because she feels voting for Chiara to leave would be going against everything she was trying to do.

Once the votes for Chiara were cemented - Dani made the one single vote to keep Roddy. She knew Chiara was going but needed to face herself in the morning so to speak.

Either last night or 2 nights ago in the hot tub, Dani flat out told all the houseguests (incl. Amy) that she just HAD to vote out Roddy or she'd regret it & it was done for that reason.

If you are all talking about something completely different... Sorry! LOL

Cassie

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
<"The Dani Posse" What is that?>

Ever peeked in the "I Love Dani" folder? Whenever I go in there, I can hear the music from "The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly" playing (they, of course, being The Good--and all who don't agree with their slavish devotion to Devilwoman being the Bad and the Ugly.) I picture them as a posse (all riding white horses and wearing white hats)and the wise ole sheriff doling out gold-stars and posting their names in bold when they're good and go and write nice in Devilwoman's fanmail. And I'm waiting for a lynching to take place in that folder any day now...sheesh, I've just narrowly avoided a couple myself, LOL. Golly, guess I just have nine lives...

OK, I'm saying goodnight as it's very late on the east coast and work tomorrow. Have a good one, y'all.

Rain

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I like Dani a lot, but I do think Jason will win, because he has probably pi$$ed off the least amount of people.

re: morals and ethics on this show, I just don't see how morals and ethics apply at all. Its a television show and a game. They chose to come on the game and they know they are trying to win big money. So in that context, I just don't see how ethics apply. But the illusion of ethics applies, because it is a contest of the mind, and therefore I think that Dani has played an incredible game. It may not get her the top prize but it will probably get her $50,000, which is nice change.

Wendo

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Onlyhuman said, "Wendo, to me it's not just the trash talking. It's the fact that she will be all nice to that person's face and the minute they leave the room, she starts in, like she's just been holding it in."

I understand what you're saying Only. However, as I said, the other 11 HG's did the same thing, they were nice to a person's face, and then trashed them behind their back. I don't recall Dani sitting outside with Roddy when he called her a b@tch and a scumbag, or slammed the Make a Wish foundation. The point I'm trying make is that if the HG's are going to hold Dani to a higher standard because of the trash talking then they're nothing more than hypocrites.


Dagny said, "One more note..Dani's past has NOT been discussed...because we respect her children to much."

What threads are you reading Dagny? Respect her children my butt. Her children, husband, and family have been DRAGGED through the mud on this board.

C1mag

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What vicious nature did the nation see? The imitation did of Amy? She did that same imitation to Amys face last night at the ht when Amy said she doesn't flirt. I guess Amy didn't see it as vicious like you did. I personally thought Lisa's was better with the hair flipping. She showed that one too amy as well. Amy was busting up!

Watch out I think I just saw a pig fly by!

Yeah Dag if you can find some sort of conversation with Dani and Marc that would be cool. If I made a mistake it wasn't intentional. Be sure to have the date and time of the conversation. It is important because remember the vote took place around noon that day and they had all just gotten up. Prior to the vote Marcellus had told Amy that he was leaning towards evicting Roddy. This was the eve of the vote. Amy was livid. Thats when he tattled on Dani and he didn't want Dani to know that he had tattled so that is why he told Amy to go to her just before the vote. I can't see Marc telling Dani how to vote until after the vote to assure her that if she had went against a Chiara boot it would be negative in Amys eyes. I do recall one night Dani cried about wanting to get rid of Roddy but she said that too Amy and then promised she would make sure he was gone. A couple of days later Dani was willing to still boot him but only if Marc was on board with it. At that time in front of Lisa he said he was in. Then as I said that evening to Amy he told her that the house wanted Roddy out.

Lynnann

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1-judging from how long your posts are, it just seems like you are digging yourself a bigger and bigger hole trying to clean up Dani's act. Understand -it can't be done and she is exposed for what she is-period dot.

C1mag

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've got to clear up this belief that I spin things to make Dani look good. That is not my intentions. It just cracks me up when I read all this negative stuff and yet it wasn't said or it has been misinterpreted. I try to be as honest as I can recall when trying to reference something. I don't know if I'm what you would call a Dani posse member but I do think she has played the game out and to the best of nature. She has made mistakes and any talking behind a houseguests back is just wrong, but I still don't recall the severe level that is being suggested. It's been covered so many times what she has and has not said about Gerry. It has been covered why she mentioned that Tonya was not a fit mother. Sadly it was a justified comment. I don't recall her calling the woman the sleazy things other called her nor do I recall her calling Gerry the vicious and cruel things the others have called him. I am fully aware of her comments about Roddy being the devil. From day one she praised the man and made it clear about the devil comments. I saw nothing wrong in it. Her moves specifically designed to look out for her and Jason within the game were awesome. She said it beautifully tonight in the dr. She was true to only 2 people. Herself and Jason. Apparently it worked. They are still in the game and the others are not. She's got to be doing something right. I don't think she is a saint but within the structure of this game she was the best for this viewer.

Annitar

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cassie - I guess if those of us that post in that folder are the "Dani Posse" then most of the folks like you posting here on this thread are what the "Dani Lynch Mob"! You guys are the ones that are stooping to the level of personal attacks in this thread!

Sorry Mods but these consistent personal attacks just for voicing a positive OPINION of Dani on this thread are getting beyond ridiculous!

C1Mag you should be given one of those Stars that they hate so much just for not sinking to their level. Your replies have impressed me because you haven't resorted to name calling and sarcasm to voice your opinion! You are making valid points and stating your opinion and I think that the remarks towards you in this thread are not keeping with the rules of this board!

Dagny

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here it is C1Mag....this conversation did happen between Marc. and Dani...when he warned her about not voting Chi out..after she gave Amy her "word"


Duster4260
Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 03:58 pm
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Mar: What if you go back on your word and he isn't out. Then you are a target and I know you lied, Amy knows you lied. Where will you be then.
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He also said..."everyone will know you lied."

C1mag

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lynn what are you talking about? I don't get the hole digging at all... YOU feel that way about Dani but there are many that are asking just what are people like you talking about... It's like that comment about her being vicious on tv tonight. She did the same imitation to Amys face and Amy laughed at it. Lisa joined in. So not because of me but rather because of facts Dani didn't come off as "vicious"

Perhaps my posts are long and I appologize for that. However, once I'm on a role I try to cover as much as I can. I'm pretty sure that is allowed here but I'll try harder. I enjoy the debate with you and just because I've proven you wrong I don't think you dug yourself in a hole. You were just wrong thats all but it was fun! This year has been a blast!

Lynnann

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It is pretty bad when CBS themselves make the brutal comparison between Dani and Amy on tonights show. This was priceless. Dani has no defense, she herself admitted to Jay how scared she is of her vicious dr tapes- too little too late.

Lisad

Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I must watch a different version of big brother. What brutal comparison between Dani and Amy did they portray?

Monalisa

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
My opinion of Danielle.....I love her. She reminds me of a very good friend of mine. ALL the hg's have lied (except for maybe Lori...the short time she was there). ALL the hg's have been "two-faced." I can't think of one who has not been nice to their face, but ridiculed, or spoke poorly of, them behind their back. It seems as though Danielle Haters really blow things up though. Everything that you hate (or dislike) her for has also been done by the hg you are/were rooting for. Personally, I do think what Roddy did was far worse than what Dani does, since he played on people's emotions. He was even flirting with Marc! I thought he was even going to sleep with him. Roddy truly used people for his personal gain. To top it off, he still thinks he was honest while in the house.

In short, I just think everybody needs to remember this is just a game. There can only be one winner. I personally think Dani should win. She, imo, is the mastermind of this game.

Lynnann

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
They showed Amy having a nice time with Jay and Dani back on the farm screwing Amy again in the kitchen with Lisa . Also in the show showing Dani admitting to Jay how bad ther dr tapes are. HMMM-Gee, I guess she is worried about the xhg's seeing them? CBS did a brilliant job of editing.

Wendo

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dagny, I remember that conversation, it happened on the porch. And, it happened BEFORE Mar, Lisa and Dani had a talk in the HOH where MARCELLAS said, let's vote him out. Then, the night before the vote, he spilled to Amy who then in turn talked to Dani. So, while Mar stated this to Dani, a night later he was going to boot Roddy.

Lynnann, what brutal comparison are you talking about?

Annitar

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay so Amy is an Angel? Is that why people are so upset with Dani and some of her comments about Amy?????

Do people not remember the most VILE convo ever???? The convo in which AMY and Marce discussed ways in which Gerry could DIE!!!! So, Dani has done worse than that? Dani has said things as horrible as that? Some of the worse things said about other HGs came from the little convos between Amy & Marcie.

I just love selective memory when it comes to what happened in that house!

Abbynormal

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag- always enjoy your posts. I like Dani and all, although she's not my fav.

My opinion of Dani is this: she eats like tomorrow ain't happening. I find it fascinating watching her! I can't help myself, I am drawn to and repulsed at the same time. Wanna debate? LOL

Cute1073

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Annitar, I have just review the last 30 post or so, and i am with you. I feel fairly indifferent toward Danielle which is why I haven't posted yet in this thread...but I am agast at the personal (and repeatedly) attacks that have taken place on C1mag. He has been very civil and apologetic in his posts where everyone else has jumped on his back.

As for Dani's behaviour to Amy...well....they have ALL been terrible every single one of those people have bad mouthed eachother. Jason has done it less than others but is still guilty. As for Amy...i am sick an tired of people defending her bad behaviour. Some have said they don't like C1mag defending Dani well...she is absolutely no worse than Amy. She has been very smart about it infact....the same cannot be said for Amy. Amy says trashes people to whomever will listen. Dani is smart and only makes comments to those she trusts.
I'm not saying it's right or wrong...but i will say almost everyone in the world has trashed someone sometime so I think we shouldn't be so fixated on that aspect of the game and maybe discuss the strategies that are taking place....
In reference to that..I don't think Dani's strategy is smart because she looks bad to everyone else in the house. She seems to think lying and backstabbing is the only way...but she should have followed Lisa's example and kept her mouth shut!

There.

Dagny

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Monalisa...that is the smartest thing I have heard yet. (from a Dani fan) You support Dani through her weaknesses...and her faults...you don't try to cover them up. I applaud you on that.