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C1mag

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Megg if you think about it Dani chose to already lose so many other votes that Lisa's lost vote would just be added to the list. I sorta think that if she does go to the finals with Jason that she will feel very good about losing to him so that is why she isn't gonna say anything about their alliance. With Lisa it's like all the other pawns in the game. Who knows.... Maybe they will all see dani's game as brilliant and still reward her the bigger amount. I just don't know anymore hahahahahaha! She played this game that is for sure.

Annitar

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Meggie- Dani knows she isn't playing for 1st prize anyways. So, Lisa finding out about the alliance is a non-issue really. Like I said Dani has been playing just be in the finals for quite some time. She has know that Jason would beat her almost from the beginning.

Oh and you're welcome C1!! LOL!

I also think we are all underestimating Lisa too. I have no doubts that she would pull the same things Dani/Jason have done to make it to the end. She just hasn't been forced to do so yet. We saw a glimmer of that with her not voting for Eric to come back.

C1mag

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Annitar excellent point on Lisa. She did try to keep Marc in to get rid of Jason and remember she had promised Jason and Dani it would be them in the three and yet she was willing to try and mess that up so now I'm back to feeling good that Dani is doing this too her. Thanks for that reminder :) Go Dani and Jason.

Annitar

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Anyone else find it as funny as me that Wendo, C1, Cameltoes and I think so much alike sometimes?!?!

Reading you guys posts is like reading my own thoughts sometimes!

Weird!

Meggieprice

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, it makes sense now. Thanks, everyone! I also think she really was so cold she wasn't thinking straight. She is still a master! Who knows what tomorrow will bring!

C1mag

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Annitar I you totally resolved my problem with this. I swear I had forgotten that Lisa was definitely going to betray Dani and Jason by keeping Marc in the game. OK I'm sooo cool with screwing lisa over now lol!!

Meggieprice

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL C1! I think it makes a great story in the D/J saga that they have to really battle and get this HOH for their fairy tale to have a happy ending. And Lisa has shown herself to be truly formidable!

Annitar

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LMAO C1! Glad I could get your head back on straight where Dani's concerned!

Yepper, the folks that think Lisa is an angel in this game are not seeing the true her. She is playing the game just as Dani & Jason are... to make it to the end!

C1mag

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Annitar that is sooo true. Dang you! I am sooo glad you brought that up about Lisa pulling the same thing. She proved she would when she tried to keep Marc in the game. Phew!! you Rock!

Meggieprice

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What I think about you C1 Wendo and Cameltoes thinking alike, Annitar, is that is is very very comforting to me when I find you are in a thread I visit cause I feel protected!

Battlestar

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag----no it was Danielle who said it would be the 3 of them in the end, that was her promise not Lisa's....Lisa told Danielle that would come a time she would have to play for herself and taking Jason out would have been that time

Onlyhuman

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Meggie, this is what has frustrated me the most about Danielle. Given the opportunity to choose between taking it easy or committing a manipulative act, she seems to choose the manipulation, even when it doesn't make sense. And it's that little extra step that costs her votes.

I don't blame her for playing the game for herself. That's what I think everyone should do, even Jason at this point, though he seems to have lost the will to do so. I just wish she could have eased up a little in order to save some votes in the end game.

BTW, the reason I got out of bed to post was that it just occurred to me that Jason being evicted by Lisa on Saturday might actually help Danielle. Jason has pretty solid relationships with the former HGs and he may be able to run a good PR campaign in order to get Danielle the votes she needs to take home the big money.

Itekks

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
just wanted to know why no one is posting on live feeds = i dont have access and i really want to know what they are doing right now. did they go to sleep? has lisa said anything? thanks if you can fill me in =

Cameltoes

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa is asking Danielle why she put her up if she doesn't have a deal with Jason. Danielle is spinning a yarn about getting Jason's word and not knowing what he would do at the end (final HOH) if Danielle put him up.

C1mag

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Battle Lisa was aware of the mention of that final 3. She listened and said ok. Right after Marc was evicted and Dani got hoh Lisa imediately said to Dani.. " You Jason and me are still all cool right?" She knew and she at least gave the impression that she was all about that final 3. It may have been Danis deal but lisa did approve.

C1mag

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Camel she did a pretty good cover up. She said she knew she could trust Jason to keep Lisa safe when voting to evict. :)

Wendo

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Misslibra said, "Yea the game includes back stabbing, so that should make it fair game to complain about. I don't like how she is using Jason and Lisa. Well Jason has volunteered to be used, Lisa didn't, and I don't like it, I don't like it, I don't like it!!"

Of course Lisa volunteered. She started the deal talk tonight. She initiated it. Lisa, like all the HG's before, have to remember, this game includes lying and deceit. You have to always keep that in your head.

C1mag, Camel, and others. I want to address your "concerns" regarding Dani making the deal with Lisa. Remember, Dani doesn't have the information we have. We know that Lisa will maybe take Dani. And, we know that Dani didn't have to make the deal with Lisa. BUT, Dani wasn't sure. Despite everything, she's there to play for herself to win. Making the deal with Lisa gave her assurance. Jason removed his hand. She gave it over four hours for their alliance. Lisa wasn't going anywhere. Like I said, I would've done the same thing.

Call me a scumbag, a liar, what have you. I would've done it too.

Itekks

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
lisa cant be that stupid - she has to know that dani and jason have a pact. is she just trying to catch dani lying right now - is jason sleeping ?

Meggieprice

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Onlyhuman, yes, that is my frustration with her. I think she just overplays, darn it! She has fought so hard, and played so well but she goes too far when she does not have to.I wish she could see it the way I do and she might have faced better odds in the end.

Now that Dani has denied twice to Lisa having an alliance with Jason watch Lisa try to make a deal with Jason next.

Battlestar

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag---approval is one thing. Danielle 'approved' of lots of things that she never intended on doing

Cameltoes

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Itekks: Jason was in the DR when they were having this conversation. I don't know what Lisa is trying to accomplish here. Even if Dani & Jason didn't have a deal, she has to know she must win HOH as opposed to counting on Dani to win. Maybe she just wants to force Dani to tell more lies to tarnish her further for the jury.

C1mag

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Meggie she gave her the promise once again just a bit ago. She would take Dani in the end. Actually common sense tells her that Dani would be the better choice. I don't think she is that dumb. It's like I said... Lisa believes the others will vote based on Integrity and she figures Jason would get that vote. So don't take the chance. I think the reason she is asking dani questions is because she wants to hear danis response. It's sorta like she knows, but she just wants to see what her response will be. Even if she thinks the woman is lying Lisa is not gonna ruin her chances by picking Jason just to get even with Dani.

Wendo... Call me a scumbag as well I would have done the same thing as well :)

Wendo

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"She (Lisa) did try to keep Marc in to get rid of Jason and remember she had promised Jason and Dani it would be them in the three and yet she was willing to try and mess that up so now I'm back to feeling good that Dani is doing this too her."

EXACTLY. Lisa was going to back stab and betray Jason and Danielle only a week ago when she made a deal with Marcellas. Now that Dani may do it to Lisa, oh well. Turnabout is fair play. That's the game and it's why we watch.

edited to add...And, to add some more...it will be funny if Dani loses Lisa's vote in the end (if Ja and Dani are the final two) because of this possible betrayal. Since, only a week ago, that was Lisa's intention.

C1mag

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Battle like I said... Lisa knew she had been caught in trying to save Marc and she was worried and she did quickly aknowledge that final 3 by asking if they were all still cool. She knew what she was doing and played dumb about the marc vote. It's like I said... irregardless I can't feel bad any longer at what Dani is pulling on her because Lisa would pull the same thing. She has proven this.

Battlestar

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
c1mag-----and this proves what?? It shows me that Danielle was willing to go into an agreement with Lisa that protects Danielle and sacrifices Jason. Jason no longer has the option to go into an agreement with Lisa as Danielle has sewed it up in her favor.