Should Danielle be righteously p***ed at Jason for blowing the boat comp?
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Cameramanbob

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 09:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I didn't see it, but it seems Jason caved without much of a struggle. Strategy on J's part? I mean it IS one way of appeasing the jury - 'Good ol' non-threatening Jay.' Or is he just a loveable (& malable) puppy around the ladies? (ie: Kinda whipped?) A third possibility is he has a crush on Lisa, but can't manage to show his independant side to 'Mom' (Danielle).

Battlestar

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 09:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought Jason was changing his hands and he stupidly removed one hand before putting the other one on

am I interpreting his action wrong

he was dumb...but he didn't cave

Cmc209

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 09:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe Jason decided to get out early because of guilt - he probably didn't think it was fair (2 against 1) for the HOH competition.

I just about died when I saw him get out - hello... this is a game for $500,000 - it's time to drop the nice guy routine and start playing the game. In fact, I was shocked when I thought I heard Jason say (was it on the show?), that if Lisa made it to HOH he would push for her to take Dani to the final 2.

Cba79

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 09:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
CMC.... Yes, Jason did say that if Lisa won HoH he wanted her to take Danielle to the final two. Don't get me wrong, I am a Dani fan (I like all three of them), but come on Jason, this is half a million dollars here!! Will that fact EVER hit him?

Ryn

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 10:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok - Jason apparently was bailing with one hand and went to grab his hat when the rain started for whatever time and took his hand off the key to get the hat.

That is the explination I read.

Now - true or not (did Jason throw it), I don't know, but wanted to at least post it.

Redgirl30

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 10:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think he blew it. Why sit out there and be miserable? He knows Dani wants it BAD! And he knows Lisa wants it bad! He on the other hand has shown very little interest in the money, going so far as to say he'd be happy if only Dani could win the money. I don't think he really cares about the money as much as the other two, and knew he would be fighting a losing battle. I also think that everything that he is doing at this point is to get Dani into the final two, and since she was in the pool, she could win that comp for herself, and he could go relax!

Jagger

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 10:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I didn't see it either, but from what I read Jason had his cup in one hand scooping water, it was raining and he took his hand off the key for a split second when he was going to adjust his hat. I don't think there was any strategy to it, he just messed up, he drifted off into never never land for a second and it cost him the comp.

Jason has also said that if he is in the final 2 he still wants Danni to win, I think for him it was more the fun of being in there then it is the money. This is a once in a life time oppertunity for him. I think this may help him grow up and see life a little differently.

Cameramanbob

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 10:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
For myself, I am just wondering if Jason ever actually makes his mind up (using some grit and determination) and plays some hardball... Or is he just a Zen Master of quiet strategy? For all Dani has done, the guy just hasn't really paid her back (except with exceptional loyalty). His approach is always pensive or casual. He's a great guy, and he DID step up to the plate when it was time to face Marcellas - I'd be OK with him winning - but Dani had to be a little hurt at that moment.

On another point - I like Bohawkins conspiracy theory about the wind machines favouring Lisa.

Carolm

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 10:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I Don't think Jason caved. His face showed how upset he was. Even afterwards Jason looked really scared.

Spongebob

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 10:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Don't give Jason too much credit here people.....the guy is a klutz.

Jeneane

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 10:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
How can she be upset? She has thrown every comp and left the dirty work to him. Even when she won HOH she still left him to clean up the mess.

Seanflynn

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 10:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If it is Jason and Danielle in the final two, I expect him to tell the jury to give Danielle the money.

Wendo

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 10:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jeneane, If the feeds are any indication, Danielle is not upset with Jason. She actually feels really bad that their goal may not be realized, to be the final two.

John1971

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 10:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Why should she be. She quit also! She thinks Lisa will take her if Lisa wins HOH but, we'll see.

Ada

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Did lisa win ???

Floresmama

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Danielle has a right to be upset with Jason. Not because he screwed up and let his hand slip. It was an accident but he is the one who needed to win. The reason I think that Danie has a right to be pissed at him is that while she was sitting in the cold holding on to the key essentially for him he came out with warm food and ate it in front of her. And when she could have used his moral support to help her go on he was in the house.

I don't think it is fair for anyone to say that Danie quit. She held on for almost four hours of on and off tortentual rain. She was freezing, her whole body was shuddering.

Wendo

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 12:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
John1971, If she quit after an hour or two, I'd agree with you. But Dani gave it four and a half hours for their alliance. Lisa wasn't going anywhere last night, she was hunkered down for days.

Meggieprice

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 12:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ITA Wendo. I saw steely resolve in Lisa's face! It was great to see after wondering if she had it in her.

Floresmam I thought that surely BB must be forcing him to come out and taunt them with his food, etc., but apparently not. I was mad at him myself for wimping out and he never gave Dani props for making it so long. She gave it her all.

Texasbbfan22

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 12:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This is just my opinion but Danielle and Jason both decided "to protect one another but play for themselves". Jason sort of played a Colby last night. We will see what he has done today but he might be thinking that he can use this experience more in his outside the house life than scratching and clawing for the money. Just a thought.

Kalekona

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Danielle DID quit. Once she heard Lisa say I'm taking you if I win- she gave up and let go. She knew her goal had been reached to make the finial two no matter who wins HOH. Once Jason was out Dani had to stay in not to protect him but to protect herself once the threat was gone so was Dani. And by not winning HOH she won't have to break her word to either Jason or Lisa.

Screeminmeemie

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 02:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was curious about Jason's look of discomfort BEFORE he took his hand off. I was watching his face closely on the LF'S and was thinking that Jason is about ready to get out of the boat. I don't know if it was discomfort or what, but he surely looked agitated. Of course, RP timed out and when it came back he was walking to the ladder. Curious.

Jag2000

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 05:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think that anyone on the live feeds saw
what actually happened to Jason because from what
I understand..the feeds are delayed 1 minute. I
was watching and then FOTH and Jason going to the
ladder. Danny said last night in the HOH room to
Julie that Jason was weak. I agree with you CMBOB,
I think that Jason has a big crush on Lisa and
may be thinking with his testicles instead of his
brain. Danny cannot get mad at him now because
she may still need him, maybe even for a vote.

Loppes

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 05:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm shocked Dani would tell Julie that Jason is weak, seeing as she threw every competition that came before them by her own admission. I'm glad Jason lost early last night, for a change she had to do the dirty work. As we all know now, she failed even in that. Competitor? No, I think she lied about that. I don't see any thread of physical competitiveness in her. I think her competitiveness is 100% mental and not any other.
Lon

Whit4you

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 05:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
One thing I don't understand is they told them for the first 3 hours - you could change hands - yet when Jason went to change hands he was "out'?

Don't get that

Lisad

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 05:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
But doesn't anyone remember a couple weeks back Lisa saying to Dani that Jay would be hard to beat?

I'd be PO'd at him too. I think it was justifiable at the time given the situation. It was a SERIOUS screw up. I'd get over it quick, but I'd be damned irritated at him being so stupid and not fiercely determined & focused. I think he's capable of it. Perhaps my judgement on that is wrong. Also, don't forget Dani's physical condition being in that environment for 4.5ish hours. And her emotional termoil in bluffing to her friend Lisa (who she clearly cares about), etc. LOL All that added up? I'd probably have killed him.

Jay feels bad for screwing up & D feels bad for not being able to handle it. She just appologized to him AGAIN on the feeds.

Um - a bit off topic here, but I'll bet money BB was concerned for Dani's health. I'll bet they had a medical person on standby. The weather temp was supposed to be a low of 62 and they said the water was freezing. I'm an RN and I gotta tell you - I did NOT like how Dani was looking.

Loppes

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 05:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whit4you,
Jason didn't go to change hands. The water came he was holding the cup with one hand, and released his "key" hand to put his cap on.
Lon

Lisad

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 05:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whit - but they had to keep one hand on it. Kind of put one on before taking one off.

I thought what he did was get his hands confused. He was holding the cup for the whole time, when the rain came his hand didn't let go of the cup to put his hat on, but used the key hand. I thought he admitted to doing this but maybe I'm remembering this from some post?

I was almost as stunned as when Marci didn't use the GPOV. I'm still amazed he screwed up so soon. Looks like Dani forgave him. I'm still holding a bit of a grudge. :)

Phillymom

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 06:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There's another thread now about the Air Force launching a missile right about the time Jason let go of his key. And in a post from the live feeds:

"Jason just explained how he got disqualified. He said that he thought he saw something got distracted by it and he went to put his hat on and absent mindly used the wrong hand that was holding the key because the cup was in the other hand."

Apparently Lisa and Dani didn't see it, but I'm not certain about that. So maybe the missile distracted Jason. It's a thought. In these times, seeing a missile sure as heck would distract me.

Katta

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 10:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Loppes, Dani did not tell Julie that Jason is weak - as a person. What she was saying was that Jason was in a weakened position at that point because he was unable to compete for the HOH the week that she won.

And, Wendo, ITA with your previous two posts.