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Wendo

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
But the "drama" is what makes it good for us! We want the drama, it makes for better feeds, and a better tv show. I like the drama.

As to her lying to Lisa, heII, she's lied through the later half of the game, what's another one, right? LOL!

And, if you want my honest opinion, I don't think Lisa will honor it. Lisa wants the good people to win. I really think she'll take Jason to the finals. I know, I know...it's just a gut feeling.

Annitar

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You know whether I agree with what Dani (or for that matter Lisa) did tonight or not... I'm not going to sit here and pass judgment on her.

I wasn't in her situation so it's silly for me to say what I would or wouldn't have done.

I wasn't sitting in the freezing rain, in a rubber boat, holding on to a cold metal key, sitting in my own urine for almost FOUR HOURS!

I don't know what I would have done and no one else here knows that either. So, lets just take it for what it was... a valiant effort on both Lisa and Dani's part and leave it at that.

Meggieprice

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa started talking first and made it clear she would take Dani. I don't get why Dani didn't let go without saying a word. Meanwhile, I am mad at Jason- what a wimp out! He left it all to Dani.

Wendo

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag, oh, yeah, I admit that completely. IMO, it's a 99% given Dani won't win the big money. There's a sliver of a chance, just as in any game, but no, I do not think she can win the half mill.

C1mag

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo... that would be interesting if Lisa did take Jason. You'd have to grin if she did. You are right we do love the drama and she did keep her score card the same in the area of lying :)
If Lisa does keep her word then I still give dani kudos for securring herself in the finals with both of the remaining.

Cameltoes

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I just don't think she HAD to make a deal. She could have denied she had a deal with Jason (just as she did) and led Lisa to believe that she wanted to no part of being at the end with him and left it at that. I don't think an explicit deal was necessary in any way. If Dani truly believed that she had a chance of winning against either Lisa or Jason and was viewed sympathetically, I could understand it. She knows she has big problems with the jury votes. She would have plenty of time to continue to work Lisa for a final 2 spot after the competition ended.

Meggieprice

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Good point Annitar! Thanks for injecting a voice of reasson in my frenzied brain- time for bed!

Wendo

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Annitar, exactly. That's why I wrote in my earlier post, I probably would've done the same thing.

Meggie, yeah, that's what Lisa did, make it clear. But think about it. Your tired, hungry, cold, and more...you're not thinking straight at all. Honestly, I just don't think Dani was thinking straight when she did the deal with Lisa.

Trulyscrumtious

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That's okay, I'll just keep talking to myself... diabolo

Abbynormal

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The whole point of all this is that Danielle does NOT want to go to the final 2 with Jason. It's simple.

Cameltoes

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It is amazing to me how Danielle has these two worrying about how SHE feels after she has maneuvered her way into a guaranteed final 2 spot. Lisa is worried about Dani and the pride thing with giving up the competition - LOL.

Annitar

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani was so cold she had a major "BRAIN FREEZE" tonight! LOL!

Okay now I'm resorting to lame humor... thinking I should go to bed too!

Yep, Wendo I was agreeing with your post! I also agree with what you said about Jason being a wimp and going out so soon. He knows he did it to himself.

Anyone else miffed why he wasn't out there trying to cheer Dani on and give her some support?

Misslibra

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani is thanking Lisa for giving her, her word. And in return Lisa gets a knife in her back. It makes me kind of mad that she could do this to Lisa. And Lisa is so trusting and kind she can see the horns showing.

Wendo

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Camel, I don't think she realized she didn't have to make a deal. As I wrote just a minute ago, I think after four and a half hours, you've lost a certain amount of concentration.

And, she is playing for herself here. Making a deal with Lisa is good for Dani. And, Dani knows she's not going to win in the end. She knows it completely.

still think they should've kept Amy; what a bad move by them.

Wendo

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Misslibra, well, the game includes backstabbing. Lisa is a smart cookie. I'm betting she doesn't buy it completely. And if she does, bad on her.

Meggieprice

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
OK now, we all just heard that not only did she make a deal but she just confirmed it again and denied again a deal with Jason. So now I'm mad at Dani too. She is not thinking straight. Lisa will find out about the D/J alliance from day one the minute she leaves, if it is Jason who wins HOH, so Dani loses her vote anyway. So Dani might as well go for HOH all out now because she will lose Lisa's vote either way- by "scumbagging" her, or by having her find out the truth.

Misslibra

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
He should of left it all to Dani it's about time she had to really work this comp. Jason tried to give his support but I think he was making it worst so he went back inside and cooked dinner.

Cameltoes

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
But if Dani didn't want to go the end with Jason, why in the world would she have wanted both Marcellas and Amy to be evicted? Of the four, Marc and Amy were obviously better for her. The easiest way to scumbag Jason would have been to keep Marcellas around.

Annitar

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Wendo I think Dani has know for quite some time that she is just playing for 2nd place. She knows that she doesn't have a chance of winning the big prize.

Knowing that and still honoring her alliance with Jason is why I still have so much respect for her.

If she was the mean horrible person that so many think she is then she would have took Marce with her to the end.

I still believe that no matter how it makes her look if the decision is hers, Dani will take Jason with her to the end. She has never waivered in her loyalty to him. Not even tonight, IMHO.

C1mag

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Annitar and Wendo... Thank you, Thank you, Thank you... for bringing reason to my thoughts. :) What would I do without you? You are right. Given the same situation I may have done the same thing as well. It's so hard to listen to this conversaton with Dani and Lisa knowing that Dani lied to her but it's part of the game and if I were there I would have done the same thing Dani did. The only problme left for Dani is not too make it obvious when she hands the prize to Jason. If Lisa see's that she may not like it so I hope she is a good actress. She's still my girl but daaaaang what a night and yes I too was pissed at Jay!

Eden

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I totally don't see a difference in a lie to Marcellas last week and one to Lisa this week. It is gameplaying. If Lisa buys it, GREAT! That doesn't mean Danielle will honor any word given under duress. We know her first allegiance is to Jason. He let her down tonight. She's created an opening for them both to still get to the final two. GAME.. GAME.. GAME!

Misslibra

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yea the game includes back stabbing, so that should make it fair game to complain about. I don't like how she is using Jason and Lisa. Well Jason has volunteered to be used, Lisa didn't, and I don't like it, I don't like it, I don't like it!!!

Annitar

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Cameltoes! We are on the same wavelength tonight! I just posted how she could have taken Marce to the end if she was most concerned about winning the big prize.

C1mag

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Megg I know how you feel. I just lean more towards what Wendo was saying... Given the moment I may have pulled this as well. After all she knows she is playing for second place either way so she has nothing to lose by lying to Lisa and getting caught.

Meggieprice

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
But why lie to Lisa? Why deny the alliance? She just lost Lisa's vote. If she had just let go of the key and thrown the comp tomorrow she could have kept Lisa's vote with a subtler deception. ARGHHHHH!