The 4- not so strong feelings
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Bkmac | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 08:27 pm     Reading many posts here sometimes I wonder if I am watching the same live feeds and TV show as most of the rest of you! Some show fans seem SO invested in some of these people and I don't get why. Some fans seem to think certain HG can do no right, or that others can do no wrong and it weirds me out. Am I the only one who doesn't feel super-strong about ANY of them? I truly think all 4 are fundamentally good people with interesting quirks and traits... I also think all 4 have some short-comings that are pretty obvious to those of us who watch. Honestly- while I do have a favorite, I'd be okay with ANY of these 4 winning the whole shebang. I feel like all of them put in their time (even Amy with her Mexican siesta), played the game to some degree, and are decent enough human beings to "deserve" (I know, deserving isn't really part of it but phhht :p ) the prize. My thumbs up and thumbs down for each remaining HG. Amy- Pros- wacky (in a fun way), resilient, sensitive. Cons- self esteem issues, need for attention. Lisa- Pros- intelligent, flirty, bubbly, kind-hearted. Cons- trusts too easily, at times dishonest. Dani- Pros- funny, smart as a whip, loyal to her compadre Jason. Cons- too open in the DR, at times dishonest, lets others do her dirty work. Jason- Pros- kind, sensitive, modest, loyal to his compadre Dani. Cons- sometimes lacking in spine, a little too naive about the nature of other people. So thats my take, all of them are decent enough people playing a game to win- and all of them have at times shown lapse in judgment and questionable character. Pretty much what we'd expect from any one of us after all this time under that spotlight... |
Crossfire | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 08:37 pm     Boy, am I glad you took the time to write, I don't know what your watching, nothing like that on my end. Have you called your cable company about this yet? Tell'm you want the version that's all black and white, not the crummy grey version. When its coming in properly, it should look something like a cross between the Sopranos, and Golden Girls. Thats the one with the full emotional kick in the junk. |
Bkmac | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 08:41 pm     Umm okay I give... who is Tony and who plays Blanche? |
Eden | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 08:47 pm     Sure, they are all "nice" people. But they have not all played the game with the same intensity and focus in order to get to where they are. In my opinion, Danielle has worked the hardest to get to get to the final 4. I also think that Jason and Lisa have relied on her efforts and abilities to safely find their way to this place in the game. I suppose that is why I think Danielle is the best player. I'm judging by game-playing ability. I think people like to choose someone to root for, even if that choice changes as the game progresses. That is the nature of being a fan, you pick a favorite, for whatever reason, and follow them, cheer for them, labor with them. Here, loyalties seem to shift a lot. They seem to be WILDLY judgmental, which is ironic because usually judgments about others are what they most condemn players for. For myself, I don't see Lisa as worthy of winning the money. I suppose, I don't think Amy deserves it either, though she has weathered many a storm. Jason has played it easy. Danielle is the one I think most deserves the big prize. I don't think she'll win, necessarily. But of all those remaining, I think she is most instrumental in ALL of them being there for whatever reason. That's game playing. The likes of which no other player has manifested. jmo. |
Lisad | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 08:55 pm     I'd go along with those assessments except for Lisa. I don't see her the same was as you. |
Hermione69 | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 09:12 pm     I'm pretty much with you BKMac... If pressed, I'd say that I'd like Lisa to win, but not so much that I'd have a problem with any of them emerging the victor. I see good and bad in all of them, and not just in their personalities but in their strategies and relationships with each other and all that stuff. In fact, I think that the nature of the show actually takes away my passion about any one in particular. So many different parts of them come to the surface as the game progresses that, this close to the end, I can't point at one and say, "Ohhhh, this person is so much better and more worthy than the others." I actually listed pros and cons of each HG in another post on another thread last night so I am reluctant to repeat myself! I was trying to show that you comment on a HG's negative side without necessarily being against that HG. Many people here do take sides rather passionately. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but it's not how I end up at this point in the proceedings. I am usually much more passionate about Survivor contestants and I am not sure why. I think there is an overexposure that comes with Big Brother that lends itself to a "oh, whatever" attitude, for me anyway. I pretty much agree with your assessments of them. And it is waaaaay past my bedtime! G'night! |
Jimmer | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 09:28 pm     I'm continually amazed at how personally involved some viewers seem to get with their views and comments on the houseguests. There are things that I like and dislike about each of them, but some people really seem to have much stronger emotions either way. This is not a criticism but an observation - however people are viewing this, they are obviously enjoying the show and the discussion and that's what counts. |
Sam222 | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 09:44 pm     I am feeling pretty neutral on the whole about the final 4, I don't think they are great and I don't think they are awful. I really don't care at all who wins at this point with one exception. When I step back that is probably a good thing I don't need to stress over a TV show, I'll just save that stress for my life! I have to say I have not had that many people who I really wanted to win, win in a reality show-Will from BB2, Ethan from Survivor and Rob and Brennan from the Amazing Race being the exceptions. I am now ready for next week and ready to say goodbye to BB3, bring on BB4! I will say that I will really miss this board, it has been a fun summer. |
Bernie | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 10:53 pm     Interesting comments, everyone. I'm one of those who feels strongly every year, and I guess it's because they're real people not just characters in a drama. I can't help but be happy for them, get annoyed with them, and hurt for them, because they are living their lives in front of us, and we see how they feel. I don't know if it's healthy, but that's the way it is for me. And when the game is over, I'll get back to normal, and after a while, I'll think of them infrequently, but with fondness, even those who annoy me so much right now. They have been part of my life for a summer, and I'll be grateful to them for sharing this time with us. |
Abbynormal | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 11:14 pm     Finally! This is what I have said a couple times. Of course, I have a fav, but I would be happy for anyone who wins. To me, the 2 standing there both deserve to win. After all, the whole point is to make it to the end. |
What555456 | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 11:16 pm     There are things ech one does that annoys the hell out of me and things each one does that I like. I have my favorite about who I want to see win, but I feel no real emotional connection with any of these people. |
Onlyhuman | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 01:12 am     I agree with all of you...see, I'm a complex person. Bernie, I'm very like you, in that I tend to live the experience along with the HGs. For that reason, when choosing "favorites" I tend to go with the person I can feel like I "know" the best as a human being. This year has been difficult because it seemed like everyone was playing the game so hard that you never knew their real thoughts and feelings about anything. It's a little easier now, since things have eased up, but that's how it is. In terms of the winner, I agree with those of you who thing that whoever is there at the end "deserves" to win. It doesn't bother me one way or the other. There are some I'd like to see win, just because I like them more, but that's very different from thinking someone should win. BKmac...I like your pros and cons. it's always important to remember the HGs are human beings! |
Missy2 | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 07:51 am     I agree, I'm also neutral. Well not really but sort of. I would like Dani and Jay in the finals but then again I could care less. |
Phillymom | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 08:14 am     I've reached the point where I find something likeable/worthwhile in each of the 4 remaining houseguests. Although I personally like Lisa and Jason the best, I wouldn't mind if Dani or Amy won. Taking into consideration all aspects of the game (personality, game-playing skills, etc.), here's the order I think they deserve to finish: 1. Jason 2. Dani 3. Lisa 4. Amy |
Jagger | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 08:22 am     I definitly have my favorites, and yes I will be upset if my favorites don't win, but I do realize it is a game that the 12 hgs have played and I have absolutly no control over any part of it. I have liked the way some people have played and disliked the way others have played, but it is their game strategy, not mine. I know that in a week it will all be over and I will move on with my live to bigger and better things. I try my best not to critize individuals over the way they have or haven't played the game, because it is just a game. I have also noticed that some posters really get into the game, at times to the point that the posters seem upset, I would never let a TV show get to me that way, it is suppose to be entertainment nothing more, nothing less. |
Bigger | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 08:44 am     Critique of the game is fun, but I have no vested interest in any of these people, so there's no reason to get upset. They're not winning the money for me! It is an interesting show. I do have my favorites, but since it doesn't affect my life or my pocket, It doesn't matter to me who wins. I hate when I give my opinion and some posters get all upset about it. I am actually routing for Amy because nobody wants her to win since she's not "playing the game", but I really think it would be a kick for her to come out on top! |
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