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Gramma

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 05:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Personally, I think BB should sequester ALL HG's from the time they walk out the BB FOTH until they return for the jury vote. Not a punishment sequestering, btw. They could come up with something enjoyable.

Survivor does this with their jury. I don't understand why BB doesn't. Surely it can't be about the money. They have the lowest paid cast on TV, even taking the final cash prizes into consideration.

I agree that watching DRs that are being self-edited by the HGs is boooooooring and a waste of air time. Both Nicole's last year and Roddy's this year fall into that category. Honest DR's allows the viewer to know more than the all the HGs combined. The viewers like that. It's fun to know what someone's gameplan is and watching to see if they can pull it off. BB's sponsors WANT the viewers to keep tuning in. Hello! BB? Can you hear me?

Allowing evicted HGs access to the public at large, tapes of the shows, puter feedback forums and each other in unmoderated settings defeats much of the purpose. Maybe someone else can explain why BB chooses to do it this way.

Survivor has consistently been a much higher rated show than BB. Wonder why AS hasn't borrowed some of Mar Burnetts proven good ideas in this regard.

and how does this post fit in this thread? LOL
CUZ... If all the HGs had been sequestered, this thread would have no foundation for even existing.

Lancecrossfire

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 05:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gramma, AS can't have the control MB has. MB picks places tat he can gain total control of not only at the site of the game but also for a large area around it--and it's always remote.

AS has things set up in LA--hardly remote and hardly control of much area around the house.

The next factor is money. MB spares no expenses. AR seems to find it tough to fly 4 people coach fare at the same time.

Ok, back to topic. I think Dani has done some things very well in the game she has played, and some things she has done haven't been good gamesmanship.

Jaysgal

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 06:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Has anyone caught this one yet? Danielle is telling Lisa about her past moves and votes in the house (e.g., why according to Danielle she evicted certain people), how she saved Lisa, and gossipping about Roddy, Chiara, Josh, and who knows who next....

I am so imagining Lisa feeling trapped with Danielle. Lisa is probably saying things because she knows that she's toast if she doesn't nod her head now. Danielle is saying things that are not factual, for instance Roddy's true age and her belief that he has no brothers, he does not have a family because he did not get any pics of his family when he was HOH, etc.

Beside the fact that she enjoys the business of gossipping, either Danielle is trying to get words out of Lisa to reveal her commitment to Danielle or she's simply setting up Lisa to make it a more difficult decision for houseguests.

I am hoping that Lisa will apologise to each parties and reveal how trapped she felt, of course if this is how she felt. I think that Lisa is feeling like she's around Roddy once again with the lies Danielle is telling now as though she has investigated facts.

As I said elsewhere, it is a verified fact that Roddy is 30 (perhaps turned 31 now) with public records and we do know that he has his family by his side.

They're now discussing Jason's sexuality....

I'm hoping Lisa isn't a willing participant of this gossipping or lies. If she's a willing participant, she loses my respect and support.

Jan

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 06:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
well they had the conversation that Dani would be able to win the $500K if she was in the final 2 with Amy but that is not how she wants to play the game. IF she can't win the money, she wants Jason or Lisa to win it so that's who she wants in the final 3

She and Lisa also talked about the fact that neither one of them can beat Jason..but Dani again said, if it were she and Jason in the final 2, she would be perfectly satisfied if Jason got the $500K and she got $50K. She thinks $50K would be excellent pay for 3 months of hard work.

Jan

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 06:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jaysgal Dani wasn't forcing any conversation on Lisa that I could hear..she had lots of suspicions about Roddy herself. And I don't think they said anything all that mean about anyone.

Meggieprice

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 06:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This conversation is mututal. Lisa has brought things up on her own. I know Dani is always blamed for this stuff but I have been listening to them the whole time (enjoying it, actually, because I do like hearing them talk about the past) and this is a spirited conversation between both of them. As bashing goes- very mild. Many incidents exactly as I remember them.

Fun watching them run to the ST for their wine like kids on Christmas.

Jan

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 06:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
thanks meggieprice for your comments. I was beginning to wonder if my hearing was going wrong or if I just did not find things offensive. I am quite enjoying the conversation also. And I don't see anything wrong with it or hear any lies in it.

Foodbunny

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 06:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just don't like the feeling I get from some posters that we aren't allowed to dislike Danielle. That we all have to support her. I'm perfectly willing to let others have their opinions of her, please let me have mine as well.

And the Danielle bashing isn't any worse than the Roddy bashing was. There were days I wouldn't even come to the board because I knew it would be nothing but bashing him.

Jaysgal

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 06:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have confidence in Lisa at this point. I believe she would much rather not engage in all of the discussion about people and their personal businesses and she does suspect highly that Danielle is not being truthful, but she's trying to stay composed so as to secure herself. I do think that she will not take Danielle.

Jan, it is a fact that Roddy is 30 years old. The information is on public record. I can even provide it. Danielle passes it as though she's a qualified authority to know that. And then she further asserts that Roddy has no family. And then she also made assumption about Eric's participation in the decision to evict Lisa. Furthermore, Danielle asserted that she does not speak bad of Amy, which is very contrary to actual excerpts of her.

From Lisa's DR, I think that she's highly suspicious of Danielle's intent, and she does know that Danielle is trying to work her.

Remember, Lisa often laughed when she conversed with Roddy; shge laughed with Chiara, but it was a different story when they parted.

If you are right that she's enjoying this kind of conversation, then I am so disappointed in her conduct and I would hope that she does not make it to the end. But I do not believe that she appreciates that kind of discussion or believes most of what Danielle is telling her.

Jan

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 06:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
foodbunny, you can feel however you want and post however you want about Dani.You certainly have that right and I certainly did that with Roddy. :)

But I think I have the right to also post the other side of it...especially if I feel like the post might be a bit misleading about what is going on.

Meggieprice

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 06:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I completely understand people disliking Dani and voicing it. I just don't like it when her actions are misrepresented or twisted to seem bad. And I am not accusing a specific poster, just talking about a trend. Things she says are twisted sometimes so as to be unrecognizable!

Dislike her, voice it, just dont fabricate things.

I defend to the END everyone's right to speak their truth!

Bmh

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 06:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
umm Jaysgal..Lisa has been more vocal in this convo more than Dani has..you must have hit ur head or something

Jan

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 06:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
But jaysgal Dani and Marc just feel like Roddy is older. They don't know for a fact and aren't saying he is..they just are saying they feel that way.

and re Eric, Dani tried to defend Eric all the way..she kept telling Lisa that she didn't think that Eric knew at all.

But regardless, you feel how you feel about Dani and I feel how I feel. I respect your right to feel that way.

Jaysgal

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 06:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Again, if you guys are right about Lisa being the most forward in this conversation and actually enjoying it, then I am so disappointed in her behaviour. But once again, I hope that even if she appears to feel comfortable about the discussion, she is only pretending to. I really hope.

I do not care about Danielle at all. All I care about is that she doesn't win. I have seen and heard things from her that are beyond acceptable in my code of ethics and etiquette. However, I couldn't care the least about her if she does not cross my path and does not win the money (at least not first prize).

The reason I brought this one up is because Lisa is involved. I am pondering on whether Lisa is a willing participant or not. And by "willing participant" (I know that she's talking) I mean does she actually feel comfortable with that kind of discussion? If she could refrain from that conversation (i.e., say Danielle were not HOH this week), would she have still participated nonetheless?

Lisa is the person whose action matters to me. I do not wish to endorse her winning this game if she actually loves such activity as Danielle has engaged in. My belief is that Lisa does not enjoy it, but you could be right.

C1mag

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 06:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok here we go again.... It has been Lisa doing some harsh talking. Lisa just mentioned that she saw Amy with no undies do a leg kick in front of Jason. Can anyone verify this kick action? Is Lisa now the wicked one over this?

To be honest it has been Lisa who instigated the first impression of Amy by leaning on the table arching her back mocking her. Dani followed the conversation. Man I am the first to say I disliked Roddys game but I never EVER twisted what was going on when giving examples of what he was doing. This has been interesting to say the least. It proves my point about Dani. She has also said very nice things about each person. So much for her wicked ways.

C1mag

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 06:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jay honestly Dani has not baited her at all. This conversation was Lisa's topic of choice. She created it. Dani didn't ask for any info and Dani has several times come back with nice things about some of the people Lisa is mentioning. By the way... I thought you had the live feeds?

C1mag

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 06:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok where are the Dani bashers? She's praising all her fellow houseguests. This evil creature sure is messing up her enigma over this. Please tell her to stop. She's not suppose to be nice. Thats a no no! By the way this isn't the first time she has said the nice things. It's like I said before, she has been so misinterpreted. She played the game hard and for it she is deemed the worst player. That just isn't the case.

Bmh

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 06:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
lol C1 I agree..oh no..all the Dani bashers run and hide..when Dani starts praising her fellow houseguests..course they will never admit she was nice..and bash her to no ends anyways...go dani..you are def. the best player this year hands down!

Jan

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 06:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
well C1 and Bmh there is one thread somewhere where they are saying she is being nice to try and win some votes!

Ahh well..she can't win with some..but I have to admit that Roddy could never win with me either so I guess I was just as guilty on the other side.

Crossfire

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 06:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I do believe we are seeing some baiting which is not allowed. :)

C1mag

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 07:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah where are all her bashers? She had more kind things to say about the hg's and when she asked Lisa what she thought of the others Lisa couldn't come up with much. Hmmmm I'm sure somehow that was Dani's fault. I just have to figure how that one is gonna be twisted but it will happen :)

Wendo

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 07:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow, my take on the conversation was that it was mutual. Several times Lisa has piped up excitededly to relay information and her thoughts. Some that Dani hadn't even thought of. At times Dani said, "Really? Lisa."

Lisa is participating in this conversation equally. She's not just saying, Uh huh, or nodding her head. In fact, she's the one who mentioned Roddy's lack of family photos and how strange that was.

People certainly have different perceptions on conversations and are willing to just omitt statements that have been coming out of Lisa's mouth. Don't know if the live feed posters have caught this convo, but if they have, perhaps some need to read it.

Cassie

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 07:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"Ok where are the Dani bashers?"

<waving> Here I am C1! And this should be post #98. Going for the 100th :)

Crossfire

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 07:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ahem.

Crossfire

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 07:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
h4H@, 100tH Po$t, I owNz3Rd 4LL 0F y0U.