Archive through September 18, 2002
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Archive through September 18, 2002
Lfbunky | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 10:54 pm     Wendo: Sick to death of DANI!!!!!! I DO NOT want her to win anything. No matter when she became an adult, she is supposed to be a christian. She is so <not behaving nicely>. I don't think anyone should leave their children for 3 months for any reason. I do not want to see her COUNTDOWN any longer. Cannot stand her. (c) |
Wendo | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 10:56 pm     Max, thanks for the response. Lfbunky, thanks for your opinion, though, you really didn't answer the question. Good try though. |
Max | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 10:58 pm     Lfbunky, I also know plenty of people who call themselves Christian and gossip, backstab, look down their noses at others like crazy. She's playing the game. She has her family's support. Her kids aren't toddlers and she is not a single mother abandoning them for the summer. You might not like HOW she's playing the game. You might not like the person you THINK she is based on what you see in this game, but I sure don't think the fact that she labels herself a Christian has anything to do with any of it. There are as many different "flavors" of Christian belief and prescribed behaviours as there are Baskin and Robbins ice cream! |
Lfbunky | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 11:02 pm     Wendo: I think most people become an adult when they learn how to handel different situations. To me Dani has tantrums when she doesn't get her way, she's all smiles when everything is going her way. To answer your question, I don't think she is an adult.Maybe this is an answer for you..... |
Lfbunky | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 11:04 pm     Max, Thanks for your observation of Christians. I wonder if YOU have ever known any REAL ones.; |
Max | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 11:13 pm     Gee, Lfbunky, I guess that depends on your definition. Many folks I consider Christians (including myself) would probably be classed as something else by some folks.  |
Lfbunky | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 11:21 pm     Max, I am glad you consider yourself a christian. Maybe I am "the some folks" you are talking about. But I DO know waht a christian is. I am not calling you names and I DID NOT deserve your precious little devil. I just really don't care if you liked it or not. I'm sure you have your favorites and I have mine. I still think we live in America. |
Max | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 11:26 pm     Lfbunky, I use the little just 'cause I think it's cute. It has nothing to do with you. Sorry if you took it personally.
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Wendo | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 11:27 pm     Lfbunky, actually, my question has to do with whether or not she's learned adult lessons because she was thrust in to adulthood by children and marriage and, could this explain her childish tendencies toward gossiping. I'm not asking whether or not she is an adult because she is. Maybe not in the sense we view one, but she is. She has a job, home, children, and a marriage. Those are adult things. Additionally... Lfbunky said, "I don't think anyone should leave their children for 3 months for any reason." I'm curious Lfbunky. Did you feel the same way about Gerry as well? He did leave his children as well for possibly three months. |
Maris | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 11:30 pm     Difference between Gerry and Dani is the ages of the children. Also Dani's daughter was starting high school this year and that is a big step. You would think that she would want to be there for that big day. |
Lfbunky | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 11:34 pm     Wendo; Actually I do feel the same way about Gerry. I was thrust in "adulthood" at 17, because I lost my family. I do know what it means to be an adult. I did not mean to sound offensive and I appolize to you and Max. I just feel so strongly against Dani, because of all the bashing and backstabbing. Maybe this was the wrong post. Will try not to be so plitical. Sorry |
Wendo | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 11:45 pm     Maris, didn't Gerry have one or two children at home? As to Dani's kids, I'm sure if Dani felt it was detrimental she would've stayed home. However, for her family, it was an opportunity of a lifetime and she was chosen. I've read a lot of posters here tried out and didn't get chosen. BB isn't my cup of tea (going on it), but I understand the idea of Carpe Diem. Sometimes, one has to grab at an opportunity. Lfbunky, thanks for your reply. No problem, I understand you have very strong feelings about Dani. That's cool. Remember, we're watching people in a game show, people we're likely never to see again. It's fun to comment and debate them, and trying to keep our emotions in check can be difficult. (I know, I've gone overboard too on occassion.) Seriously, no biggie. Also, I didn't find your posts to me offensive at all. Just debating your thoughts. K? |
Twintown | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 05:55 am     WENDO Just wanted to say I have read many of your post as I've lurked on the boards, and it always seems whatever thoughts I may have to add, you have already said them and probably better than I could have ever expressed them. I support Dani's game playing. She is certainly not perfect, but I'm continually bothered by the overwhelming negative and rude posts from the persons on the boards. I have a tendency to be blunt in my rare posts on the boards, but you handle the situation well. You are calm, analytical and make sense. I applaud you. On topic. I recall that Lisa and Dani had a strategy convo that it would be the two of them and Jason as the final three, when that was done it was "every person for themselves". So I tend to think that Dani and Jason will honor that and evict Amy. However, if they both decide that Lisa simply is too big a threat and they go against that agreement.., well it is only a game and part of any game sometimes requires changing strategy. I just hope Dani does at least come in 2nd which will get her some money. |
Twiggyish | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 06:16 am     No matter what happened in her early life, it doesn't excuse it. Right now, Dani is my least favorite. GO LISA! |
Wendo | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 02:11 pm     Twiggyish, If you'll re-read my post, I clearly said that my thoughts were in no way creating an excuse for Dani's childish behavior. In fact, here is what I said, "Just want to add, in no way am I excusing Dani's gossiping and "trash" talking, just posing a question as to the reason for it." Reasons for behavior are in no way excuses for said bad behavior. I completely agree. The point of my post was trying to understand Dani's reason's for why she gossips, not to say she wasn't accountalble for the behavior. Hope that clears that up. Twintown, thank you, your comments are appreciated. However, I am in no way always calm nor do I always make sense. As others can attest to, I've gone of that proverbial deep end before. LOL! Dani is a love em/dislike em type of game player. There are many things I like about her, how she's played the game, her strategy, and her loyalty to Jason. And, there are things I dislike as well, her gossiping, trash talking, etc. As with most human beings, Dani is full of contradictions. *shrug* |
Gina8642 | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 02:24 pm     I think vicious gossip is a human weakness. One that nearly all people fall into occasionally in their lives. Some are more prone to this weakness than others. (The same way some people are more prone to drink than others. And just like with drinking, those that aren't prone to drinking, don't understand why it is so hard for problem drinkers to control themselves). With maturity many learn to lesson it, or terminate it from their lives. To me, Dani clearly has some growing to do. At times she can be very kind and good hearted and a funny individual, but then she falls back on being vicious. It has the effect of making her look very hypocrital and two-faced; the very thing that made me absolutely dispise her at times in this game. I hope after this show is over, someone will fill her in on just how bad it made her look. She can take it as a life lesson and she can try to eliminate (or at least better limit) that behavior in the future. I also dearly hope she doesn't win the grand prize, because I don't want to see that behavior rewarded, even if this is 'just a game'. |
Wcv63 | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 02:54 pm     It also may be a way to relate to the remaining houseguests by creating a bond. I mean, she can't go read a book, watch television, call a friend, cuddle with her kids, kiss her husband, go shopping, comment on current events, go to a chat board and talk about the latest crop of reality contestants. There is only so much to do and so much to talk about. Granted, sometimes the negativity is overboard. But they are human and they are completely at the whim of BB. Just today I had a neighbor telling me something about another neighbor that she thought was shocking. I listened politely and then told her I had to run because my phone was ringing. I could get away and go do something else. I have other people to talk to. Gossip is a trap and one very easy to fall into. Not excusing it but I do understand it and understand the reasons it seems so prevalent on BB. |
Moderator | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 06:00 am     Just a reminder - this thread is for debates about Danielle. Posting articles from or links to hate sites will be deleted. <b> |
Bidasea | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 06:21 am     Danielle is playing a GAME to win money..She isn't doing anything that hasn't already been done by another contestant..Remember the Guidos pushing? Tara and Will? Danielle is just really good at game playing. She probably plays a mean game of Monopoly as well. |
Rozmatoz | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 06:44 am     The incident that enlightened me to Danielle's 'dark side' was after Tonya left. She told the other houseguests something personal about Tonya, that if true, Tonya had told her in confidence. Tonya was out of the game and there was no need for Danielle to convey this information to the house or to the people watching the feeds. I felt it was malicious and extremely backstabbing. And I am really tired of her going on and on about her 'needs'. |
Wendo | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 08:53 am     Rozmatoz, the personal info that Danielle was talking about Tonya had told to Chi, Lisa, and Dani on the live feeds, so they already knew. Hardly a place to tell personal info when there are cameras going 24/7. In addition, Chi wanted to know why Dani voted off Tonya and Dani explained that it was primarily how Tonya had treated Amy (the Tonya/Amy fight). |
Sanfranjoshfan | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 08:54 am     You were right, Loppes! |
Maryk | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 09:07 am     Who decides who played the best game, anyway? If Jason or Lisa makes it to the final 2, didn't that mean that their strategy worked also? IMO, they would have played the game equally as good as Dani. So when it comes time to voting, the tiebreaker will be the character of the person, and Dani's hypocritical and character-assasination behavior in the house can be used against her as a legitimate way of not making her the grand prize winner. |
Bearware | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 09:25 am     Did I get post 200? YAY |
Ppurr | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 10:14 am     I personally am sick of Dani. She is too full of herself. I wish she was GONE. She's worse than a two year old throwing a temper tantrum when things don't go her way. I can't take anymore of those bulging eyes and snapping fingers. |
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