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Bbholden

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 08:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Exactly Costa, but we can agree to disagree with good fellowship. I respect and admire your opinions and comments. Please afford me the same courtesy. Now let's just shake hands and I'll stop being a whiny old lady...lol

Jaysgal

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 08:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
To put it in a few words, it is possible not to be a moral relativist but practice it in certain settings. When I speak of Jason's belief and apply it to his practice, I am taking the place of a moral relativist using the moral standard (or code) of the individual without questioning the merit of such standard.

Fabnsab

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 10:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Although I do think Jason is a genuinely nice person, and I ,like other women, respond well to a man holding a womans hair back as she vomits, I never forget for a minute that he is on a television show and he knows he is being watched every minute. I take some things he does with a grain of salt because he is more aware than anyone how much everyone else sees. That is not to say he isn't genuine. I just leave some room for fakeness in his case because he is always "on."

Sia

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 11:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
But, Betty, are you sure it was peanut butter? With Eric, I just had the feeling there was a bit more to the story than got told.

Guinevere

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 11:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I like Lisa fairly well, but she reminds me of friends who always have to have a boyfriend and who desperately need male attention. People accuse Amy of this but I think Lisa is just as bad in her way.

I have no problem with a little flirting as game strategy, but when Lisa goes into her little-girl routine (replete with baby voice), it kind of makes me want to gag. She should have more self-respect and not view her sexuality as her only asset.

As for Jason's part in the flirting, eh. I think he is probably a pretty nice guy IRL, but I also think he has been pretty phony and fake and only shown his surface on BB. It doesn't dispose me to like him.

Breezy

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that Jason has feelings for Lisa from what I have read in the written feeds recently. I think he feels this way, partly due to the fact they are isolated with no one else to interact with, and partly because she is obviously attractive.

While Lisa is cute and sweet in her own way, I don't think she is a good match for Jason. Jason's religious beliefs are a major part of his life, and Lisa is obviously on the opposite side of the fence on that issue. They are like oil and water when it comes down to issues that would face them in a serious relationship.

Jason is attracted to her now, but in the future how much of her habits "bad language, liberal sexual beliefs" etc. would begin to grate on him and embarrass him in the future? Can you see her attending church events with him, and trying to curtail all of the "colorful" things that have come out her mouth? I strongly feel that his parents would be opposed to such a match.

Don't forget about her relationship with Eric which is on now on hold. Eventhough I am not crazy about Eric, I think he is a better match for her. Jason deserves someone with higher moral character.

Ministryoftruth

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And speaking of Eric . . . I gotta wonder if he is at all upset by all this flirting. I think it is mostly strategy on Lisa's part, but it must be tough for Eric to watch if he really cares about Lisa.

And, btw . . . are those Jason's boxer shorts that Lisa has been wearing for the past two days? I may be wrong, but I think those are his shorts that she put on the night of "the kiss" and every time I've checked the feeds since, she seems to be wearing them. Can anyone verify this?

Becca

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, I'm a Christian, and you know what many of us do flirt? IT's not "wrong." It's not exactly like Jay is leading Lisa on, or vice a versa. Why take everything so seriously? I also think that the producers are trying to cause some "excitement as well."

There relationship is there relationship. It's not for us to judge. I know a couple of Christians (like Jason) who are always telling their female friends "you look great, etc." Its normal. I don't understand why everyone has to take everything so seriously on this show.

Bernie

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
MinistryofTruth, Lisa just said-Jason, I love wearing your clothes, and Jason just mumbled something back, and now, Jason just asked if Amy had packed any of his clothes, because there's a limited supply, and he needs what she had.

Jasonfan

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well said Becca. I think, as has been stated in other threads, we all see the HGs with certain blinders. If we like the HG, we defend, if we don't, we criticize every move. For example, if J didn't flirt with the two young, single, attractive women in the house, some posters might comment (again) on his sexual orientation.

J has said numerous times he's a flirt and very affectionate outside of the house. Of course we're seeing more of that now. He knows people better and the more intimidating people are gone.

Lisad

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm finding that little girl/baby voice she's using yesterday & today with him to be extremely annoying.

Bring on Survivor! LOL

Denecee

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 04:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa is flirting right back with Jason and she should! The guy is beautiful. Jason is totally in control of the house. JMO

Lisad

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 04:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes - I'm sure they are having fun. But the voice thing! Grrr :) Yea - Jason is cute. For a baby. :)

Breezy

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 10:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
MinistryofTruth...did you see or hear about Lisa's chat with America recently? She won America's Choice, and was able to chat on the internet. One of the internet guests had asked her to kiss Jason and wear his t-shirt. She decided to add the boxers for fun. I don't see anything wrong with it myself, just a fun joke. (Please correct me if I made any errors in relating this episode.)

Breezy

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 10:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ministry..sorry if I misunderstood your question.

Ministryoftruth

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 10:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I did see the chat and I know all about the fan asking her to wear the t-shirt . . . nothing wrong with that or the underwear, I just thought it odd that she would wear them 24/7 for two days.

And . . . FWIW, I don't have any problem with Jason and Lisa flirting. I only said, "it must be tough for Eric to watch if he really cares about Lisa". Most of it is pretty innocent, but when they started talking about Lisa being the one in the room on Jason's wedding night, and about wanting Jason to snuggle with her and wanting her breasts rubbed, I thought it would be tough for another guy (Eric) who was hoping to have a possible relationship with her to listen to.

Lilacs04

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 10:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't find anything wrong with flirting, but it seems like Jason fell in love with Chiara, Amy, and Lisa at different times in the house. Does that strike anyone as being odd? Initially, it seemed like he really would've liked to pursue a relationship with Chiara, then he seemed to lean towards Amy whom he joked about taking to the fair, yada yada and now, just recently, he's been going overboard with Lisa. I like Jason but he's WAY too fickle.

Bigbrotherbelle

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 10:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Did anyone see what happened last night? Lisa started again about how Amy's kiss was real, but her kiss was just for the internet, and that makes her upset.

Then she jumped up and ran to Jason bed and layed down on it. Jason jumped up and Lisa got up and went back to her bed, saying "I was just going to lay down beside you and not even TOUCH you."

When Dani said that the reason Jason probably doesn't want to kiss her too much is because of Eric, Lisa replied, "you know what Eric would do, he'd probably give you a pat on the butt and say 'way to go!'".

Hmph.

Cindyluvsroddy

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
because lisa works as a bartender in a strip club, she should be scolded or looked down upon??

im 25, and used to strip at bachelor parties when i was in college ... no big deal .. i made good money and had a good time ..

flirtation can be alot of fun!!! jason and lisa look so cute flirting with each other! :)

2addicted

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ministry said: "And speaking of Eric . . . I gotta wonder if he is at all upset by all this flirting. I think it is mostly strategy on Lisa's part, but it must be tough for Eric to watch if he really cares about Lisa."

I had my doubts about Eric in the house, especially when he was so callous with his "If Lisa's gotta go" and "getting laid" comments. However, I think he showed some attractive "true colors" (to borrow a house term) 1)in the way he took care of Lisa when she was ill (similar to Jason's holding Amy's hair-- I'm a sucker for guys who do those kind of things) and 2) On the way he handled Lisa not voting him back into the house. He understood that it was just a game, laughed it off, wasn't petty and did not hold a grudge. That was classy!

Eric is not a saint, by any means. We know (or at least suspect) that he dumped his last girlfriend in a rather inconsiderate, public way. He made some pretty rude comments. But I believe that Lisa and Eric genuinely like each other, and I think he sees the Jason flirtation for the harmless fun it is. (And also strategy-- if Lisa wins that cizash, I guarantee you that Eric will forgive EVERYTHING <g>)

Cricket

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes he will, 2addicted. :) Just think of the nice time they can have in San Francisco and the other places they wanted to see should Lisa win.

If he is sincere about meeting Lisa was more important than winning the game, these two have a chance. They are a cute couple and I hope they make it.

Bernie

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I tried to watch last night, and in between failings of RP, managed to catch that repeat performance of Lisa and Danielle's teasing of Jason re 'the kiss', and it was interesting from another point of view, for me. I mentioned for MinistryofTruth's question above yesterday that Lisa was wearing Jason's clothes, but that he asked Amy for them back, and I attributed that to him knowing she was leaving. He did say though that he would give them to her next week, after the end. Last night at the beginnning of the tease session, when Jason came to the bedroom after his DR, Danielle brought up the clothes thing, and said that Jason was okay with Lisa wearing his things, but asked Amy for them back. Jason was changing in the Mash unit area and came back and told them for their information, he had put the clothes Amy had been wearing in her suitcase so she'd find them when she opened them at her hotel-Amy didn't know. That shut Lisa and Danielle up pretty quickly, and the subject was dropped, and went on to the kiss angle.
Furthermore, Lisa and Danielle were doing the ews and ahs about Amy's bed, because of her leaving a mess, and told Jason about it immedicately, all primed to go off about Amy, but beyond "really?" Jason wouldn't bite. Lisa said Amy had done it so that Jason wouldn't be able to sleep next to her, (but it was probably because Amy didn't really expect to go-Danie said to Lisa that she thinks Amy expected to stay because she would be agood person to take to the ened, as no one would vote for her) Nor would Jason take up the subject of Amy's failings earlier in the kitchen, when Lisa started criticising Amy's late night talking, saying she liked discusssions, not stories about people she didn't know. There's no doubt in my mind that Jason has a crush on Lisa, in the same way he had a crush on Chiara, and note, both girls are, or were, 'taken', and therefore 'safe' from Jason's point of view, just as Danielle, being married, is also 'safe'. It may be just his strategy not to trashtalk Amy now that she's out of the house, but I believe that he actually genuinely likes Amy, because she was the only girl he avoided kissing, until last week, and she was also the only girl he kissed spontaneously, of his own volition. Yesterday he positively stalked Amy with the videocam, and had her doing all sorts of little dramatic pieces, all of which he seemed to enjoy and approve. It all makes me go Hhhmmmmmm....

Cindyluvsroddy

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
bernie - way too long of a post .. lol

i cant read that much all at once :)

Woodpecke®

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
im 25, and used to strip at bachelor parties when i was in college ... no big deal .. i made good money and had a good time .. Cindyluvsroddy. (Insert sentence destined for best One-liners here).

Bernie

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry! It was my first of the day, I'd been thinking about it all night, and I had to get it off my chest! [Maybe if I'd divided it into paragraphs? ]
On second thoughts, what about everybody else's long ones! I'm not the ONLY long-winded poster on the board!
Mom! That girl up there's picking on me!

Ryn

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 02:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
lol Wood - that description is a far cry from your profile - I did a double take ;)

Rig

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 02:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Woodpecker, did you mean to say "bachelorette parties"?

Bigbrotherbelle

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 02:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bernie I read it all and I agree. I didn't know he put his clothes in Amy's bag, that's sweet!

Bernie

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 03:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, Bigbrotherbelle, I thought so too! I just wanted to get it out there, as the repeat of the kiss convo didn't make it into the live feed posts last night. (I couldn't even get onto the board last night, I thought my computer had given up the ghost :-O)

Wendo

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 03:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As to how Eric feels about Jason and Lisa? I imagine he feels the same way the girl he basically dumped on national tv feels. *shrug*

Maryann

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 03:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
When I speak of Jason's belief and apply it to his practice, I am taking the place of a moral relativist using the moral standard (or code) of the individual without questioning the merit of such standard.
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Excuse me, but are you trying to say that even if a person is not a member of the Christian faith that they have a right to expect a certain behavior from people who profess to be Christians.
In other words, can a non-Christian make an accusation that a Christian just ain't "walking the walk" (practicing what they preach)
If I read you correctly, fine, if not please explain what you mean. And define the term
Moral Relativist for me,too. Try not to use five dollar words, two dollars words will work for me.

Ministryoftruth

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 04:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bernie, I don't think your post was too long. I read the whole thing and liked it.

BbBelle, I thought his putting his clothes in Amy's bag was pretty sweet too. I bet she was really touched when she found them.

Dagny

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Have Jason and Lisa been flirting tonight?? In your opinion?

I just heard Lisa giving Jason marriage advice..."suck your wife's toe"...but he doesn't seem to be biting.

Draheid

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hahahaha ... Dagny, that's the point of 'sucking' on toes ... don't BITE!! :O