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Cassie

Monday, September 09, 2002 - 09:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani is sly. You can't ACT sly. You either are, or you're not. Can you see Jason, for example, being sly, just to serve his strategy? Don't think so. He just doesn't have it in him. It's a character trait, just as constantly dissing and backstabbing is. It's who Dani is. Hopefully she'll use some of her winnings to pay for a good behavour therapist to help her deal with her issues.

Csnog

Monday, September 09, 2002 - 09:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dannie has mentioned that if she wins the money she wants another baby. That if she doesn't win the money she can't afford another one.

I thought that she said during the first week of LF's that she had a tubal.

Anyone remember?

Loppes

Monday, September 09, 2002 - 09:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Csnog,
Yes she said that again last week.
Lon

Flyonthwall

Monday, September 09, 2002 - 11:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, I've been really trying hard not to comment on any of the HG "bad" qualities this year.
I don't like to get into heated debates or attack or defend, because it creates to much "drama" for me!LOL

But I've finally had enough of Dani tonight.

It's been building but I've bit my tongue and sat on my hands to keep from saying anything.
But I can't stop my fingers this time!

Dani keeps trashing everyone of the HG.
Now granted they ALL have been doing this, NO one excluded!
But Dani gets going and just don't stop!
I won't list examples here, because we all have heard it over and over.
I won't type it in the live feeds anymore because it's just not right.

As a Christian, seeing someone who professes to be such a strong christian as Dani says she is and wants us to believe, it just really disappoints me she does this.
I know she's not perfect, but she is adult enough to control her mouth and actions.

Many in this house have disappointed me this year in actions and words.
Since this thread is about Dani, that is who I'm addressing.

I don't want Dani to win at this point.
Generally I pull for the "good guy/gal" in the show, and hope they stand for their beliefs, whatever that may be.
Hopeing that they will represent themselves in a respectiful manner.

Passing judgement is a sin also, and I shouldn't say anything, but I do hope Dani will read about her actions and see that she is not representing herself in the Christian manor she wants people to treat her with.

This is exactly the type actions that turn many against religon. It really makes me sad.

If her family is watching I pray they can redirect her. If her children are seeing this I pray they will be able to see the err of their mothers way and find the right answers.

This is really sad to me, and I'm sorry to ramble.
But I do hope something changes in Dani's life that she will gain more self respect and love of herself that she won't have to degrade others to feel better about herself.

Sorry...off my soap box now..
FLy

Pie_Eyed

Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 12:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't mean to sound arrogant. But it seems to me that Dani has sold her soul for a mere 300 grand. She's a dreamer and that money is not going to take her very far. Especially here in the SF bay area. I find her to be a very sad and out of touch human being.

Sisalou

Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 12:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with you Fly. IMHO is is just plain wrong to trash the other hgs.

Its one thing to lie, manipulate etc to win the game but most of Dani's and Marci's bashing have nothing to do with the game. It is down right vicious!

Just imagine that you are Amy, Gerry, Roddy etc. having to hear that garbage. Or pretend you are one of their family members, can you imagine how much it hurts to have their loved one vilified. The most amazing part of their character assasinations is most of it is lies!

I suppose I should feel pity for them because I really do believe that what goes around comes around.

(I do agree Josh was guilty of this too)

O.K. will stop my rant now.

Saba

Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 02:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I wasn't happy to hear her tell Marcellas that she doesn't vote and never has. It isn't about race, if Lisa had said she doesn't vote, it would make me think the same about her. (BTW Lisa strikes me as someone who doesn't vote.)
My thing is I don't understand people who don't vote and when I hear minorities/women say they don't vote it amazes me. Not sooo long ago women could not vote.

so, it made me think less of Danielle, however I really like her. She said she doesn't have time to go voting, don't they have Absentee ballots in the state of California?
I think I'll send her a quilt with a voter registration card woven into it and some stamps.
Maybe she doesn't vote cause she the

Thedunit

Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 05:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
A game is a game and opinions are opinions. My opinion of Dani is that she is disgusting. Constantly talking about all the other HG's like she is the saint. If she played the game well, if she is deceitful, if she is a backstabber, a liar then she sure did not learn it IN the house. makes you wonder doesn't it. <edited - ryn> The only way that I will be happy with the outcome is if she does not get one single dime in the end, none! Too be sooooo close to the money and then not get any would be icing on the cake for me......join me in hoping for this PLEASE!

Mollywood

Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 05:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The not voting comment bothered me too. I think shes a citizen in the same way she is a christian. word, not action. However, that being said, i am so confused about Dani. I have gone from love to hate back to love/hate now just confused. I know none of us know the stragegy, but i have been watching for at least three weeks and i guess i missed the pre Jason pact with M. who i find dispicable. If this is true, i dont like her..but....sometimes i think she realizes M. is a really not nice person, and she does want it to be her and Jason, so they are setting him up to not take himself out with pov..using the logic, if your not going anyway, and have our "word" why put someone up, and piss anyone off? so if that is the statesgy i have to admire her cunning..i know things change daily, so maybe t here is no set strategy at this point. sometimes she seems so sincere to Amy and appaled at the lack of loyalty on Mars part...

Tbear

Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 06:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I liked Dani until recently. I was absolutely disgusted with the mouths on Dani and Marc last night in the hot tub on the live feeds. F**this and F** that. <edited - ryn> I personally would like to see Jason win or Lisa.

I think that it is so sad and disgusting that grown adults act this way. I can't imagine the horror the evicted hg's are going through to have their names smeared on tv like this. Why do they all hug when they leave and give the messages to the evictees, it is so hypocritical. What about the good traits that some of the hg's brought to the house? Why don't they talk about that for awhile?!

Ryn

Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 09:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
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Ryn

Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 09:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think, at this point the original intent of this thread needed to be re-inforced....

specifically.....

Keep in mind that we are discussing the one named characters being portrayed in an artificial environment, keep the real life person out of it, we don’t truly know the real person.

thanks, Ryn

Secretsmile

Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 10:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Dani should be interesting these next few days. She's been going over the jury votes in her mind and she's got to realize that Lisa and Jason have better friends on the outside than she does.

I don't know if she'll "betray" anyone, she's made it very clear that she is out to win. I don't believe that any of the remaining hg's will hold it against her in the final jury either.

Floresmama

Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 10:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
My son and I did a little figuring last night also. Possible eviction/new HOH/final 2. Looking at things from this point I see Danielle winning at least 50k. That is what I have wanted from the start. Those of you who hate Danielle at least have to give her some props for her game play.

I think that we the viewers(myself included) really don't have any way of knowing what it is liked to be locked up in a confined space for more than two months. I am sure that we might all be surprised at how quickly we might find ourselves spirally down into someone who talks bad about anyone and everyone behind their backs. I am not trying to justify it just trying to look at why and how it might happen.

That being said. GO DANIE! GO JASON!

Flyonthwall

Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 10:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It's a game, true, but actions, "preceptions" speak louder then words some times.

ANY person who goes on BB has to have a stradigy.
They plot out how best to win the game.

TO ME: this does not need to include bashing other HG on and on and on.
It means if you set yourself up to be portrayed as one type of character, in the game setting, then you should play true to that character for the duration of the "play" or show.

If you switch character roles during game play you can only be seens as a Jykel/Hyde personallity.

No matter who the player is, if they strongly set up a basic guildline for how they want to project their image, then they need to stick to it, or be judged accordingly, in the game play.

On this criteria, is my bases for my opinion of Dani and I stick to my earlier post.

I feel I was keeping it seperated from her real life and show life, because in each she has professed her "Christian" lifestyle, so just for the record, I was commenting on her show lifestyle she is presenting us with.

Not bashing her for her real life beliefs.
Just wanted to make that clear.

"If her family is watching I pray they can redirect her. If her children are seeing this I pray they will be able to see the err of their mothers way and find the right answers."
(from above post)

Dani brought her family into the show as a basis of her belief system and to show her credibility.
To build up her character by using her family as a foundation.

I want to make it clear I am not commenting on anything but what she presented me to make my character assessment of her on the show.

I agree with Ryn about not berating someone's personal life, and just wanted to clearify that I was only using the information from Dani's show performance.
If she can bash Tonya for her mothering skills, within the game context, then I feel she opens herself up to the same judgement.

Didn't want Dani, if she reads this, or anyone else to feel I was taking it to a personal level outside the game.

Thanks,
FLy

Sanfranjoshfan

Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 09:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I see what you are saying Flyonthewall. :)

Niceguy

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bleeech.


That's all.


Hey Dani, if you're reading this, its not personal.

Bbfntic

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 04:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm just wondering why Dani is so concerned about her home being shown on tv. My first thought was that maybe she's poor and is alittle ashamed (although I certainly don't agree she should be if that's the case). Then I thought, well maybe she is quite well off and it would contradict what she is trying to portray (as being the hg needing the money the most). Well, i still can't figure it out.

thoughts anyone?

Wendo

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 04:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe she doesn't want her home shown because of her kids? Dunno.

Sanfranjoshfan

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 05:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just wonderin'....did Dani ever "give her WORD" that she doesn't own her own home? As I understand her, without that special phrase "Give her WORD" used in exactly that way, then she can say or do or pretend anything she wants and remain honest....after all, her "word" is her "word" but it seems everything else is subject to debate.

I wouldn't be surprised if she already owns her home.

Prairiechick

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 07:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, I really liked Danille at first. After watching tonights show and Marcellas walking out the door, I have changed my opinion. I really don't think that she has any chance of winning it all now and am very glad about that.

Punkin

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 07:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'll stop lurking now...in previous live feed posts Dani has mentioned her husband got a brand new Harley, her kids go to private school, have ballet and gymnastics lessons, and while they don't own their own home, they do live in a brand new apartment complex that is kind of "pricey"...complete with huge pool, workout room, etc. I don't think she wants people to know that she is not as well off as she really is. To give her the benefit of the doubt though, it may also be to keep her kids from TV exposure.

Whit4you

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 07:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Pun she mentioned spending 16 thousand cash on a car.... tell ya I've been doing very well in the past and even *I* never had 16,000 in cash to spend on a car.... lol though I did spend 8 thou in cash once... but still bottom line anyone with 16 grand to spend in cash isn't hurting. :)

Sawyou

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 07:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I love Dani, hope she wins! She is the only one who had a stategy from the get go and has stuck by it. That said, I really dislike it when live feed poster edit content such as flyonthewall. Although it will just make Dani look better to the houseguests in the end if they don't see she has said that.

Mollywood

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 07:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If what happened i think happened..dani is my new favorite player of all time..she absolutely must win!! i love amy so much..but dani deserves it if they pulled that off on marci.