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Hondarosa

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Did I understand the 9/18 show's dialog correctly--that Jason's dad told him to allign himself with a complete opposite, like a "shrewd black woman"? I thought I remembered Danielle telling the DR she'd alligned with Jason because of their similar religious beliefs, etc. Therefore, would Danielle now feel their alliance is slightly less than the personal connection she'd envisioned - and instead was a form of "profiling". If she did feel in any way insulted by this revelation, would this "shrewd" woman be less apt to bring Jason with her to the final 2? I was thinking my loyalty might waiver if I were told by my ally that I'd only been preselected because of my character type. But then maybe I'm wrong, and she was flattered by the description?

Deltadiva

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I took the comment as meant to be more flattery.

But, from a spiritual point of view is where I think Jason was coming from and Danielle understood that. Like "It's funny that my father said I should hook up with a shrewd(i thought he said strong) black woman". It may be because of the religious thing. Black women being profiled as being religious, etc. JMO not trying to profile all black women.

But definetly its more a spiritual irony than anything else. And a compliment

Beegee

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That's an interesting question. She appeared to have been flattered ... and maybe a bit flabberghasted that Jason had received such specific, if unlikely, advice.

I, myself, didn't necessarily believe that piece of advice was emphasized quite as much as Jason implied. I could imagine it presented within a longer lists of types who would be good partners. My guess is that both Jason and his dad recognized that he is a bit naive and trusting, and that he needed to team up with someone with some street smarts. A "shrewd black woman" would be one such type.

Twintown

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Jason simply did not express himself very well there. I'm thinking he was probably trying to say his father suggested he align himself with someone shrewed, and Jason in telling this story is probably thinking.., who'd have known it was a shrewed black woman and it came out the way it did.

Obviously the race should not matter. But I'm Af-Am myself, and I don't think that Jason had anything nefarious behind his statement.

I don't believe Dani should have any issue with it either, she knows him better than that and that he wouldn't intentionally say anything with malice.

Blossumtree

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
well jason did say shrewd black woman. as much as he stutters and trips over his words i don't see how he could add that in there if he didn't intend to. besides i think dani was flattered, as well as shocked because it was almost like jason's father had a premonition.

Hondarosa

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
To clarify, I didn't mean a racist issue. But rather that Danielle thought she and Jason had mutually gravitated toward each other as an ally because they liked and trusted each other so much. Then he says his dad told him to pick an opposite - he's single, pick married; he's white, pick black; he's male, pick female; he's naive, pick shrewd. I remember earlier hearing him tell Danielle that he'd already told the DR that he didn't pick her because of any religious commonality. Either way, if Jason ends up winning this - guess he should give his father a cut - ha!

Crazydog

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought he said "sharp"

Cathie

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought it was sharp, too. Guess it's time to watch the tape with closed captioning turned on...

Maris

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
so basically Jason didnt even have the wherewithall to decide even who to align with. He had to be told to do that.

Draheid

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
To quote Jason from the 9/18 show (I won't transcribe the 'stuttering' here):

Quote:

Jason: I told you that my...
Danielle: Your Dad...
Jason: ...strategy was to come in and find someone to really connect with that was different than me. Probably female. Probably a mother. You know, and my dad was like "Jason, you need a sharp black woman." He said, "If there's somebody like that in that house, you better find 'em and and ..."
Danielle: Get out Jason!
Jason: I promise you...


Amac

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
???

If a "shrewd (or sharp) black woman" is Jason's complete opposite, what does that make Jason? A stupid white man?

Blossumtree

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
didn't ZZ Top have a hit song years ago called "sharp, black woman"? i really liked that song.

Maris

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That would be about right Amac,

Minkster1973

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
SHORT black woman

Draheid

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Minkster1973: He stuttered and said 'Sho...Sharp' ... didn't exactly complete the word short, although listening to it, that is what it sounded like he started to say...however, sharp was very understandable. He was stuttering quite a bit during this conversation...

Fanny

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Haha, Minkster, that's what I thought I heard last night, Short Black Woman.

Draheid

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Blossumtree: The song title was "Sharp Dressed Man" on the Eliminator album by ZZ Top.

Maris

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
you never know, Dad may not be the brightest bulb either. Can you picture Jason and Dad having a strategy talk before he goes into the house.

Now son, just remember your body is a temple, dont let any of those heathens see through the shower door, wear a bathing suit at all times

- yes daddy

- Son you are going to need help in there

- yes daddy

- find yourself a short black woman

- why daddy

- dont you worry about the whys, in good time. just do as I say.

- yes daddy

Drpepper

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Draheid, you are correct... I have reviewed the tape several times, he stutter but, sharp is what he said.

Draheid

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hehe, Drpepper: Thanks for the confirmation. I LOVE my TiVo ... digital is soooo wonderful for transribing ... just wish it had slow-motion for the AUDIO instead of just the video!! :O

Meggieprice

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris- seems like it was good advice to me. Got him to the final three, now, didn't it? Sounds like Daddy knew just what to do.

Loppes

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Draheid,
Do you think Dani's "Get Out Jason" comment was meant literally?
Lon

Draheid

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Loppes: I can ONLY hope!! LOL

Rissa

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for clearing that up. I didn't want to be the first or only one to say that I heard "short" too. :) Hubby and I were trying to figure out what a person's height had to do with strategy, and wondering about Jason's dad's sanity. heehee

Fanny

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, Rissa, Roddy might say there is a definite connection between "height" and "strategy".


You see my little grasshoppers it is entirely possible that the "strat" in strategy is the same "strat" in stratosphere which means pretty damn high.

So there ya go.