Archive through September 15, 2002
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Archive through September 15, 2002
Jaysgal | Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 02:50 pm     C1mag, giving examples of others who have engaged in such activity would be simply red herring. The subject here is Danielle. The fact that others did it does not justify Danielle's actions. Unless someone here is arguing that what others, except Danielle, said is justified, it's irrelevant to mention that other houseguests did it. It's simply red herring. Besides, two wrongs wouldn't make a right. Has Danielle trash talked? Yes, she has. But what is the most bothersome to me personally is that she began it during the first couple of days (i.e., the whole Gerry thing).... As someone said, the DR's aren't even what matter that much, to me at least, as what she did within the house with other parties and behind their back and the contradictory practices she lived within the house. |
Zeyna | Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 02:53 pm     C1, true..most of them took part in bashing. Because Dani probably has the best chance of being in the final two, compared to Amy lets say..it's reasonable to speculate whether her behaviour will be judged (more so than Amy's for example). Also, the bashing other HGs did may not be as relevant. Lisa insulted Gerry (very very harshly IMO), but that's only one person, and other HGs that are voting might not even be aware of her comments, so that comment may not play a huge part in anyone's decision. In Jason's case, he mostly sat around and silently participated, so I'm not sure how much this will weigh on the voting. All the other bashers are gone and irrelevant at this point |
Gouraphik | Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 03:04 pm     In the end, what is the point of insulting somebody constantly? True, it can be an effective way to blow off steam, psych yourself up mentally to evict somebody, or wreck somebody's reputation for strategic purposes. However, too much of anything is no good. It's never wise to go overboard. It is impossible to truly know how somebody will react to what you say, because people simply don't reveal everything about themselves. Some people may have a very thick skin, while others may be offended rather easily. Some people get angry and strike back immediately when they've been insulted, while others bid their time and get revenge in a devastatingly calculated manner when the opportunity arises. You just never know. So why offend when you don't have to? Why take that risk? |
Gramma | Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 03:07 pm     Amy has bashed folks and has less game strategy than any of the others. I've often felt pity for Amy, but can't recall feeling any respect for game-play. Why isn't there a hot thread titled Amy has NOT played the game well! Lisa has bashed folks and other than voting to keep Eric out of the house; stay true to her vengence against Roddy & Chiara and voting them out and seeing Roddy's manipulation efforts for what they were, has dome little to get to the end except to hang tight to dani. I like Lisa, but why isn't there a hot thread titled Lisa has NOT played the game well! Marcellas was tops in the bashing department and never could decide who he was alligned with from one week to the next. why wasn't there a hot thread titled Marcellas has NOT played the game well! I think you get my point. There are so many Dani-bashing threads on this board right now, I've stopped opening them up. I already know what's being said and who is saying it. Redundancy is the name of the board right now. I'll say one thing. Dani MUST be the star of the show. Why else would so many folks be enjoying the art of disecting her the way they're doing right now. sigh. Dani is in the final 4. Whether you want to call it luck or brilliance, she's in the final 4. That means she IS playing a good game. Just as Jason, Lisa and Amy are. |
C1mag | Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 03:08 pm     Jay I dig you and you know it but read my comments again. I agree it doesn't excuse the behavior but I do think if she is not excused the others aren't as well. It's impossible to have a thread that just points out her bashing without aknowledging the others. It would be misleading if you weren't watching the live feeds. Now as for her early comments about Gerry... Would this be durring the time that Josh called the man a rascist and a nazi and the whole house allowed it and egged it on? See that is sort of my point. If ya point out that she popped on Gerry early on about hygiene it just stands there as mean ol Dani trashing Gerry but the fact is he has become the house whiping boy by all of them very early on. For the record I'd much rather here someone saying something about my dirty hands over hearing I was a Nazi By the way... I think this whole thread has taken on so many different issues about Dani other than the original topic that it's ok if we point to the others as well. It's not gonna make any die hard dani hater love her any less |
Landi | Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 03:13 pm     if you say that danielle did not play a good game... then you must also say that richard hatch of survivor1 also did not play a good game. do we not recall that noone we knew on a personal level wanted him to win? he did the same things in his "camera interviews" as danielle has done in her "diary entries". as much as anyone hates to say it, danielle has PLAYED a good game. whether you like her or not is a personal issue. if you look to this day... richard hatch is still as arrogant and pompous about what a "good game" he played. and HE DID! and i believe danielle has also played a "good game" landi |
Csnog | Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 03:17 pm     The problem with Dannie is that she made up stories. Remember the underwear? Lying about how someone plays or about "things" is not a problem because it is part of the game. Smearing another person with lies is NOT! |
Woodpecke® | Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 03:18 pm     Danielle has played this game far better than Sixth-place Roddy. (This is for all the people that called Roddy the Master of Manipulation, King of Deception, controller of all that is BB 3). You know who you are. LOLOLOLOLOL! |
Crossfire | Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 03:18 pm     And the answer to all of those is....? Maybe its because there used to be plenty of threads covering all the various bashing, and there was, especially Roddy and Chiara, I think they got it way worse than Dani has. Lots of people used to trash Chiara, Tonya, Roddy, and Marcellas. There were tons and tons of threads picking them apart for every stinkin little thing. Just ask their fans. They are all gone. There is not much going on in the house, Dani is still there, all the topics for everyone else got banished. And finally, one of the reasons she gets a lot of critical comments, is because she earned them, just like everyone else did. I also believe the heavy coverage of those threads by Dani supporters adds fuel to the fire, especially when they highlight the issue, and point out specific people. That heats things up, and is why we are not supposed to do it. |
C1mag | Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 03:20 pm     Wood you are never gonna let that go are you? I swear I'm gonna hear that in my sleep. You do have to admit the man was good. He was like the common cold. Just when you think you had it under control it would come right back. He amazed and creeped me out me all the way too the end. Yep he got evicted but he gave it one hell of a shot. |
C1mag | Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 03:22 pm     OH wow I missed the lying about the undies thing? What was that all about? |
Gouraphik | Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 03:24 pm     True dat, Crossfire. It's just a political/ideological clash, really. It gets rather heated at times, but it's always been present on the board. The particular HG's getting discussed change from day to day (since the situation in the BB house is in a state of constant flux), but the underlying ideological nature hasn't. That's just the way it is when a game like this is discussed in a public forum. |
Bmh | Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 03:25 pm     C1mag Danielle and Lisa claimed..Amy had nothing underneath her robe one day..which was the truth..because I saw with my own eyes..Amy take that robe off and had nothing on underneath and had to put on a shirt..it was the truth..oh and the time the claimed Amy had no underwear on and was spreading her legs right in front of Jason..which we really dont know if it was true or not because she had the robe wrapped up over her |
Woodpecke® | Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 03:26 pm     I promise I will let it go now. I am just punch-drunk from posting all day. |
Wigglepuppy | Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 03:37 pm     I'm just going to follow around C1 and BMH, saying, "word!" when they speak their wisdom. Go Dani! |
Beserkknight2 | Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 03:51 pm     I try to point out in a humorous way that posts are off-topic, and *I* get edited out??? Thanks, thread-Nazi's...uh...moderators!! |
Moderator | Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 03:52 pm     Geez, where's a thread-closing poster when you need one? For the 1,289,539,562,573rd time, please let me remind you that it's the job of the moderators to tell folks where and where not to post, and to determine what posts are inappropriate. So, uh, who died and made y'all moderators? (K) |
Wcv63 | Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 04:04 pm     I got moderatered. And I've been so good lately too. I'll go stand in the corner now and give myself a time out. I knew better but my fingers just wouldn't cooperate. Honestly. |
Csnog | Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 04:04 pm     Dannie mocked Amy behind her back and told a lie that Amy was opening and closing her legs in front of Roddy when Amy was not doing it. She said how awfull it was that she did not have any underwear on and that a lady of class would not do that. Dannie then went and announced that she herself did not have any underwear on when she went to the formal dinner. Mocking people is the one thing that may hurt her in the voting because it "hurts" the person she did it to. Again lying is part of the game but I think Dannie took it beyond decency. |
Azriel | Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 04:53 pm     Landi, the Survivors didn't get to see what Richard Hatch said until after they voted. When people were voted out they didn't get to see the show on TV or go on the internet like the evicted HGs do. They voted at the final tribal meeting and after the end of the show aired months later, the results of that vote were shown. |
C1mag | Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 04:59 pm     Man I'm out of the loop on the panties thing. First amy don't put the drawers on and now Dani isn't covering up the kitty. Dang I gotta pay attention... |
Eden | Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 04:59 pm     I think it is rather hilarious how Danielle is pilloried for her DR entries when she and Marcellas were probably the only two people who were actually HONEST in their comments. Personally, what is the use of the DR entries at all if everyone in there just whitewashes everything and never shares any strategy? The honesty of Will in the DR was lauded, applauded and rewarded! If Danielle loses because of the diary room entries then the so be it. But then, next year, BB should discontinue doing them all together because the DR will be of no use as an insight into the game, which I think was their original purpose. Part of the fun of watching the SHOW is to see the DR entries where we are supposedly privy to private thoughts of the players. For players to be punished for having a strategy and talking about it to the DR seems ludicrous and even unfair to me. Without Danielles DR comments we would have been as clueless to the tightest, lonegst-lived alliance on this years show as the other HGs. Danielle has played a great game. She deserves to win. If not Danielle then Jason should win. Whatever happens Lisa does not deserve to win the big money. Amy is more deserving than Lisa merely because for so MUCH of the game she wasn't able to play at all, but up for eviction! Amy's survival is truly miraculous! |
Meggieprice | Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 05:09 pm     Listening to Lisa and Dani remember the week that Eric and Lisa were nominated I am just really reminded what an amazing game that Danielle Reyes has played. My own memories of that week came flooding back. Lisa is very lucky that Dani brought her in and brought her to now. Dani, you may not win because of the egos of those who were eivcted but my hat is off to you! |
Crossfire | Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 05:12 pm     Just goes to show that this game is not as easy as some make it out to be. Just showing up at the end of the game with 10 heads on a stick is not enough. |
Bmh | Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 05:13 pm     I agree Dani worked 24/7 the week Eric/Lisa were on the block..trying to get Lisa to stay..Lisa owes Dani alot..I am gonna say that Dani is one of the best or THE best player in BB history |
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