Archive through September 16, 2002
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Archive through September 16, 2002
Redgirl30 | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 02:57 pm     Wendo I didn't mean to imply that Dani ended up in the final four because she was lucky....but rather to imply that being a good player wasn't the only way to end up there! And yes Dani's gossipy habits will probably bite her in the end! |
Mollywood | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 03:09 pm     Dani played the first runner up game well...but watching her try to go back and mend fences, and ingratiate heself to Lisa, and now pointing out five hundred times how she always said "Eric's a good man" Im also sick of <> Jason..i cant help it..now hes whining cause amy didnt sing yesterday when she was throwing up on the boat..im tired of his act too..good god, you would think he was 17, not as old as Lisa...He cowers to authority..danielle picked a good one..ewww dont make waves..ewwww dont like him anymore at all Lisa /amy...2 most real people in the house. (c) |
Wcv63 | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 03:13 pm     So Jason pointing out a valid criticism that singing brings on the FOTH and isn't fair to internet viewers makes him a 17 yr wimp who cowers to authority? Don't see it. I know this is anti-Dani thread but her supporters are well represented here. |
Bcandscott | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 03:20 pm     I'm sorry to see Jason falling into the blame Amy game. The fact is, they ALL sing, and Dani is at least a close second in the singing game if not tied with Amy. For some reason, it only gets pointed out when Amy is doing it. I like Jason, but he has often fallen into the "believing Dani" trap and most of us know, that's NOT wise. You end up with a LOT of completely made up or exaggerated information that way. As far as being a wimp, no, I don't think so, but he is gullible where Dani is concerned and that is a shame. |
Jan | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 03:41 pm     OK let me see if I have this straight BCand scott...Amy hummed..Jason snapped at her.....and it's DANI's fault????? |
Jaysgal | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 03:48 pm     I loved Jason sooooooooooo much when the show first started. I loved his voice, physical appearance and cuteness. I was all for him winning, even though I doubted that it would happen. But whilst I was loving Jason, I never suspected that he would ally himself with the houseguest I detested the most--Danielle. I was also disappointed when I saw him make deals with Roddy during the Tonya nomination. However, I closed my eyes and tried to see it from a game point of view. I was still supporting him. However, the final straw was when I saw how attached he was to Danielle; he never once made efforts to stand up for what was right and criticise her conduct or even that of many other houseguests. That about made me lose much of my interest in supporting Jason. Most of it is guilt by association, but now it's also his character, his continual belief in what Danielle says without questioning, his failure to recognise the inherent inconsistency in his practices, and his hypocrisy in criticising Roddy's practices but praising Danielle's practices which amount to the same. He's made mean comments or shown the tendency to be mean. It seems to me that what keeps him from showing all of himself is as he said: The game. He's admitted before that he would have called people on a lot of stuff and does that outside of the house; but he could not in the house. Funny he described himself as controlling. Maybe he was really right.... The signs are showing. Perhaps he was not controlling in the game because he met people who had a stronger level of control. Jason's an actor, definitely a better actor than other houseguests were (i.e., Marcellas and Amy). Nothing wrong with that, only the part of pretending not to be acting. LOL! At this point, I really don't care what happens to Jason. I would rather see Lisa or Amy win the first prize. However, I won't mind if Jason wins first prize, provided Danielle is not in the final two. Basically, I'm now indifferent toward Jason. There are plenty of fine looking, taller and nice voice guys out there who are willing to stand up and speak out when they should. |
C1mag | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 04:24 pm     Jaysgal..Well as long as you can somehow still point the finger at Dani as the reason for your distate over Jason then you should still be a staunch supporter of his. After all... Aint it great to still have the best player in the game so that she is used as the sounding board for everything negative in the house? Without her in the game who would be the target? Maybe Amy? Nah thats too easy of a target. Anyway... Dani's gonna go to the finals and I wouldn't be surprised if she actually pulls out a victory. Hopeful <non-Dani fans> are relying on comments made by <evicted HGs> like Marcellus, Gerry, and Roddy right now. Yet they havent cast those votes yet. Gerry played a very dirty game so he should appreciate dani's hard play. Roddy wanted soooo much to control this game. Dani has done that. He should vote for her. Marcellus was making deals with Gerry, Josh, Dani etc... Dani made the right deals. He should vote for her. They all did the horrid trash talking, tried manipulating and lying so that shouldn't count either. It aint over til it's over. The challenge will be to not vote based on emotion but aknowledge that one who produced the best game moves. If she can put forth that effort in a final speech then she just may pull it off. Still wondering how a person who doesn't get to see this thing live has soooo many in depth opinions. It's all cool though. In the end we shall see... (c) |
Hermione69 | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 04:41 pm     I still think Only Human said it best... "The Big Brother game is simple: 1)Make sure everyone else get evicted before you and 2)that those that get evicted want to vote for you in the end." Dani has her work cut out for her. I would not put my money on her being able to convince the jury that it was all the game. She got too personal sometimes. Yes, I know they all did, but she did lead the pack to some extent. Truly I am not anti-Dani. I think she has a lot of gumption. I enoyed seeing her on the show on Saturday. I just think if she could have a do-over she would be more careful about what came out of her mouth. Right now, I think any of the big three (L, J, D ... sorry A fans, I like her, but I don't think she deserves the prize) is deserving, although if pressed to name a personal favorite, I tend to lean towards Lisa. I would be perfectly okay with Dani winning, I just don't see her convincing the jury to vote for her. Too many people have left and voiced anger at her. Whether it is justified or not is not really the point because it's there and it's going to influence the vote. |
Gina8642 | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 04:50 pm     I am so sick of reading the words 'Dani haters' on these boards. Because people choose to express negative opinions about Dani, they are dubbed 'haters'. That is not kind (I won't call it 'hatful' because that would be falling into the same game others a playing.) Deal with people expressing their opinions. It isn't 'hating'. It is opinion. |
C1mag | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 05:02 pm     Nahh it's a level of hatred and the board is an outlet to vent that hatred. They are haters! Thats my opinion. Example... I couldn't stand Roddy in that house. His actions, comments and game disgusted me. All those feelings of negativity I had for him in that house are different levels of hatred. Am I a roddy hater? While he was in that house... HELL YES! and I have the guts to admit it. Why would I type something negative about someone? Cause I liked them? Get real it's called a hatred at a certain level. Controled hatred, but it's hatred based. |
Moderator | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 05:11 pm     And MY opinion as a moderator is that calling other posters "haters" is bashing and will not be allowed. Please stop. You can call them "non-Dani fans" you can call them "misguided in their allegiance to [insert HG name here]" you can call them people you disagree with, but calling them "haters" is mean and uncalled for. Please stop. (c) |
C1mag | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 07:33 pm     Moderator I disagree with you! |
Bmh | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 07:35 pm     They are Dani-haters..just like I am a Roddy-hater simple as that..but I will respect what you wish Mod |
Whit4you | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 07:41 pm     Well I've never hated anyone on a TV Game show... I had a strong dislike for Marc but certainly didn't hate him. Truth is anyone running around the 'anti-dani' threads trying to disrupt the conversations and turning them into dissing the posters for expressing their thoughts and opinions and calling them names like bashers and haters and so on... need to make sure they themselves were not doing the exact same thing here against Josh or Marc or Roddy or ______ fill in the blank... because it is hypocritical. I say leave the moderating to the moderators and stop bashing those starting threads YOU don't find favorable to Dani or YOU think their ulterior motive <gasp> was to express their own opinion on this message board etc. I'll say again rather then running around to varoius threads dissing posters for exressing their opinions on Dani - talk about the GAME and the players in it NOT the posters here. Disagreeing with a 'anti-dani' person is fine but disagree with the points in their post and NOT the fact that they shouldn't post it or it's 'bashing' or 'hating' or anything like that. Or better yet perhaps discuss her good qualities and the good things about her in threads you create.. and no I don't think we need any MORE threads where ONLY pro-dani people are allowed to post anymore then we should have more then one (lol as if we could) have ONE where only ANTI-Dani people are allowed to post. |
Twiggyish | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 07:45 pm     I'm not a hater, either. I dislike Dani, but don't hate her. She has a lot of good qualities, but there are things I don't like. You all know people have differing opinions here. Now, that's my thought on it. |
Hermione69 | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 07:50 pm     I'm trying very hard to figure out how to word this without making it personal! I have no problem with any of the remaining four winning this game. I tend to lean towards Lisa for my own reasons, but i don't like her comments to and about Gerry. Amy, I do like, but I think she deserves it least for various reasons. Dani, I admire wholeheartedly, but think she has ran her mouth far too much and its going to cost her. Jason, I think, is cute as a button and probably genuinely sweet, but a wimp. I have found something to like and dislike about all of the remaining HGs, but according to a certain post above, I must be a hater, not just of Dani, but all of them because I just said something negative about each one. What kind of logic is that? And just to make this on topic again... I think Dani has played her heart out and deserves applause to be where she is in the game without ever having been nominated, BUT she has a heck of a battle to get the jury votes because she has angered a lot of the evictees with her comments. |
C1mag | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 07:50 pm     If you are posting something negative about someone what motivated that negativity? Isn't "dis-like" a level of hatred? Again this is my point of view. I hated Roddys game. If I were to cross him on the street I'd pass him by from what I viewed. If I don't like him or his actions then what is the oposite of like? However, If you want to coat it by calling it a dis-like then thats cool Guess we should get back on topic... |
Twiggyish | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 07:55 pm     C1, HATE is a very strong word. Why would anyone HATE someone, in the game? I don't like the things Dani said about the others. But, I do like her intelligence and her devotion to the game. She is very focused. How is that being a hater? Post why you think I'm wrong, but don't label me or my post. I won't be intimidated into NOT posting what I think. |
Hermione69 | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 07:56 pm     "If you are posting something negative about someone what motivated that negativity?" Maybe just an objective observation on human nature? Humans have both good and bad in them, and why does commenting on the bad have to be anything more than an observation? And yeah, let's get back on topic. Actually I need to go to bed.... |
C1mag | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 08:03 pm     Twig there are degree's of hate. You HATE some of the actions within the house. Do you feel mortified by that level of HATE you feel? When you HATE the actions of someone believe ir or not you actually HATE the person doing that action. May not like it but it's true. You wanna convince yourself differently thats cool, and remember this is my opinion which is as valid as yours. I still say get back on topic because it's odd that your opinion would count on this issue because of the word HATE but mine is devalued because I stated how I feel. Soooooooo return to the topic and let it go |
Keiffer | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 08:05 pm     Unfair to come down on Jason for being so close to Danny, and for not stepping in and trying to get HG's to stop doing things that some people consider bad. First: He knows while he may or some posters here may not like how Chiara behaved, Marcy and Danny talked, or Lisa dresses that becoming the moral police would have made his existance in the house short lived. Second: Allowing people to show the negative aspects of their personalities it only allowed his positives to look that much better. Seems to me if I was playing the game I would be hoping for others to behave badly so that I might get a couple of votes if I got to the jury. |
Twiggyish | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 08:07 pm     Ok C1, just understand, I've been on this earth long enough to know the true meaning of HATE. It doesn't need to be explained. (TRUST ME) I have no clue what you mean about being devalued. I think people are being respectful in their response and they aren't labeling your posts as hateful. Back on topic, I do think Dani has played the game well, according to her own rules. However, I do think Lisa has played better. |
C1mag | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 08:10 pm     We agree Dani has played the game well. Not so sure about Lisa. She has gotten real lucky |
Bailey | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 08:15 pm     I HATE Osama bin Laden & every Al Qaeda member that follows him.. I HATE Sadam Hussein.. I HATE Adolph Hitler with every core of my being. Hate Danielle Reyes? Get serious! I save that passion for where it is deserved.. certainly not in some game show contestant! Do I think she's a fine upstanding role model of integrity? Noooooooo.. I do not. But hate her? Get real! |
Twiggyish | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 08:17 pm     Bailey, that's it!! Let's put it in perspective. |
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