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Misslibra

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 02:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Onlyhuman, Jason already told Dani he is taking tomorrows comp to compete with Lisa in the final round.

Wendo

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 02:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, one more quick post...

Krossd, Actually, I could see Lisa taking Jason instead of Dani. I really could. And, while I'm sure Dani would be disappointed, I think she would be happy that Lisa and Jason would be the final two. They could've easily kept Amy over Lisa just for the advantage in the end game, but they didn't. They wanted Lisa to stay.

Whatever happens, that was pretty decent in my book.

NOW I'm going to bed. Goodnight everyone. Thanks for talking tonight, it's been so fun!

Tobor7

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 02:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Amazing that everyone stays up so late!

Wendo

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 02:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Tobor, It's The Right Stuff. One of my all time fav movies. Mmm. :)

OK, BED. NOW. BYE! LOL! Sweet dreams all....

Misslibra

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 02:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bye-Bye everyone! :)

Laffy

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 02:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
okay, maybe i'm dense, but i don't understand why so many people are posting to this thread. and i don't understand what most of the posts are saying.

how is dani screwing lisa? lisa won! why all the discussion about dani screwing lisa? if anything she's screwing jason.

actually though, she was just figuring out a way to avoid being the bad guy again by eliminating her need to win HOH. she proved this when she asked jason "what should i do?"

as soon as lisa won this comp it didn't really matter who won tomorrows, so she decided to let jason do it. only one of them would have competed against lisa saturday anyway. basically it's no harm no foul for dani and lisa.

either jason or dani HAD to win tonight to assure that one of them would get HOH, that didn't happen so now dani can throw it to jason tomorrow and still know she'll be in the final 2 even if he loses, AND she doesn't have to evict lisa or him.

she won't have to lie to lisa because she won't win HOH. no harm, no foul.

why all the discussion?

Trulyscrumtious

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 03:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Krossd... Yes, if it's a tie, the viewers get to decide. I believe they said that the phone lines will be open following Saturdays show. :)

Letmeinthere

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 03:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
<hopes there is a tie>

John1971

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 03:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa won't keep her word to Danielle. She knows Danielle is lying. If Lisa wins HOH, goodbye Danielle. I hope you enjoy 3rd place.

Gina8642

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 04:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, I'm very impressed with both of them

I went to bed after they'd been in there for just under two hours. I thought Dani was about to give up then. Nice job to both of them.

Letmeinthere

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 04:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
WOW John.. now that would be scandalous! I can't imagine Lisa doing that to Dani. She knows she can't beat Jason in the final 2. Her best strategy is to take Dani.

Fruitbat

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 05:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Laffy, Dani told Lisa she would take her to the final round. That is what they are talking about. She lied to her. I think Lisa knows this but it was not necessary to say that.

John1971

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 05:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Letmeinthere- We'll see! And just as I predicted she'd find a way to screw Jason over. Now she's going to throw HOH so she doesn't have to hold her end up to Lisa.

If I was Lisa, and Jason came up to me if I won HOH and was talking her into bringing Danielle to the final two I would be like why. Then I would know they had a deal and bring him.

Danielle has no chance to win the $500k. She will win second place unless Lisa realizes who the master manipulator really was in the house all along.

I hope Lisa can pull of HOH>

Letmeinthere

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 05:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
John, I like your idea but I think Lisa realizes that she couldn't beat Jason in the final. If she really wants to win then she'll take Dani, even if she finds out for sure that Jason and Dani have an alliance.

If Lisa doesn't care about winning the big money and just wants to jeopardize Dani's chance of getting any money then she'll go with jason if she wins HoH.

My odds are:
Jason vs Lisa 5-3
Jason vs Dani 8-2
Lisa vs Dani 5-4

It would clearly be a better game "show wise" if Lisa won HoH and picked Jason.

John1971

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 05:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Letmeinthere- I'm not so sure about that anymore. I think Jason would loose to Lisa now. Though he has never bad mouthed anyone, people will see his alliance with Danielle and I think that will cost him. Also he like everyone has lied but his were to protect Danielle which in the long run I think will cost.

If Lisa wins HOH, I see the votes this way:

Lisa vs Jason- 6-4
Jason vs Danielle 9-1
Lisa vs Danielle- 8-2

Letmeinthere

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 05:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You know something John, you could be right!

The only one so far that said they wanted Dani to win is Josh. I figured that Amy would go for Dani and Chiara would too if Jason wasn't in the finals.

Between Lisa and Jason I figured she'd have Tonya's and Eric's vote as well as Marc's.

If Jason does decide to throw HoH and unselfishly (is that a word? LOL) want Lisa to win to take Dani to the finals then I hope Lisa picks Jason instead.

Why? I'm not Dani bashing here but her reaction will make for good tv!

John1971

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 05:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Letmeinthere- I don't like Danielle! She burned a lot of bridges with the jury. People think she played a great game, but did she really? I mean she didn't play to the jury very well. She bashed every one of them in the DR. or in live feeds to other people. People might realize "Hey she did it to other people, why wouldn't she do it to me?" People say what's different from what she did then other people. Well I can tell you most people have said they want to tell the people they bashed they were sorry. Danielle said she didn't feel like she needed to tell anyone she was sorry.

From interviews I have read, there is now way she could win the 500k.

I have been pulling for Lisa for weeks now ever since the real Marcellas came out. I use to be a fan of his. Can you imagine Marcellas and Danielle in the final 2? People would probably refuse to vote.

Fruitbat

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 05:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Lisa could beat Jason but *she* does not know that. No way will she take him. She is going to be blown away when she gets out and really sees what has been going on with the Dani/Jason alliance. I wish I could see her face.

Letmeinthere

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 06:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
John, I'm not a Dani fan either. I do think she played the game well on a certain level. However, I think she'd be counting the votes on winning more easily if she hadn't been bashing people that would later come back to decide if she should win this game. Her theory was good with an alliance immediately and I can respect her not wanting anyone to know about it however there was no need to assinate others characters either.

Yes, Dani fan's, others did this too but did they want to win as passionately as Dani did? Did she think before she spoke in order to secure other HG's winning votes? My answer would be "no".

Dani and Marc in the final 2? LOL.. for want of a better saying, "the lesser of two evils" LOL, would be a tough decision for most of them I believe.

Cribbage

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 06:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lesser of two evils like last year and we know who came out on top.

I think Jason had one advantage - he watched the show last year - much like the Will and Nicole thing. Let Dani take the heat, like Nicole, and have Jason get the win like Will - though Will was more fun to watch then sweet Jason. Jason had the heads up and never bashed in the DR or burned any bridges, they can't fault him for making an alliance. He would have to take Dani to the finals knowing this - cause I don't think he could win against Lisa. Lisa really laid low after Eric left and played the game.

Babyruth

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 06:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Why does everyone assume Dani can't win?
To me, this is just deja vu from last year.

Will convinced Nicole to take him to the final two, saying he's been a louse and nobody would vote for him. He badmouthed people right and left in the DR.
Yet he won because several jurors felt he PLAYED THE GAME THE SMARTEST.

I don't want Dani to win, but I think she could.

GO LISA!!

Letmeinthere

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 07:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm convinced she can't win cause of the interviews the evicted HG's have given. Last night a few of them had negative words to say about Dani.

I'm going by what the evicted are saying to come to my conclusion.

Whit4you

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 07:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Something some people here are both forgetting...

both Kelly (Survivor 1) and Nicoles strategy was to take the 'bad' person ... and both of them lost. But then Lisa probably isn't aware of this.

Letmeinthere

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 07:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
A little bit off topic but... Wasn't it Lisa that didn't know what spare ribs were? Or she had never tasted them or seen them before? I find that so hard to believe. Where did she grow up?

Gidget

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 07:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Letmeinthere-

I hope the negative interviews by the evictees mean Dani won't win but is it possible we the viewers are once again being victimized by editting?