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Zachsmom

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 10:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Tell me about it Redgirl30..whenever I hear about the HGs talking about being scared to leave the house..they haven't seen me..I've been in isolation in a dark room behind a computer screen since July 10th..talk about scary..

Gina8642

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 10:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks all. This one really steamed me!!!

BTW - I forgot hypocritical

Battlestar

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
evil gossip is taking someone not washing ones hands (while ignoring other's dirty habits) and then turning the person into some filty pig and not fit to teach.

evil gossip is telling lies about someone purposely flashing their nether regions and then turning them into some sort of a ••••

--the intent of it is obvious.

I hope that this was her game strategy and not the way she conducts herself in normal life/ now that would be sad

Abby

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
There is a difference in talking about a person's deeds in the house, and Trash talking a person's physical appearance and the like...Name calling such as NAZI or Pedophile, or Unfit Mother, All could ruin a person's reputation. To me all the Trash talk was totally uncalled for. But of course that is MHO.

Oregonfire

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Considering the number of threads the past few days that were set up to deliberately Dani-bash, I don't mind seeing one that defends her. I'm entirely sick of Dani topics anyway, but on what other topic is there to post? These are a bitter last few days on the board, and it's no fun. Phooey.

Maris

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
the reason there are so many Danni topics is because there are only three people left in the house. We could start a topic on the lizards.

Itsallgood

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lori tried to "teach" them. They should of kept her! LMAO

And as far as the Lizards go, I saw them begging Amy to take them with her when she was getting dressed last night. Even THEY knew she was leaving. LOL

Gina8642

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Personnally I think the trash talking Dani did rarely helped her strategy, except the Roddy Devil stuff. It was just soooo unnecessary.

If it wasn't for the trash talking I think I would be a Dani fan. It is just such a shame. I think it definately cost her the game.

Everything else she did (lying, backstabbing, etc.) can be viewed as helping her get to the end, and therefore excusable by most former HGs. But the trashing talking served no purpose except general meanness.

Wendo

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Since some want to say Dani's been the worst, I disagree and here's why:

Josh, his constant calling Gerry a Nazi and his attacks on Gerry's family. WORST.

Lisa, her calling Gerry a pedophile, especially eggregious for a teacher. WORST.

Who cares about frequency when the words said only once can be damaging.

Itsallgood

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Gina wrote:

"If it wasn't for the trash talking I think I would be a Dani fan. It is just such a shame. I think it definately cost her the game."

Hit the nail on the head "sugah". I totally agree!

Woodpecke®

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
No, Wendo. Marcellas is the worst basher in the history of reality T.V. I do care about the frequency, especially when it becomes more than an isolated incident. Lisa recanted her use of the word pedophile, and her usage of it in a description of Gerry was totally in error and without foundation.

Sanfranjoshfan

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
" Tell me one person that didn't talk about other HG "

I don't really understand the point in this question. It seems to assume that all the HGs must compared to a "saint" in order to gauge their "sin".

I just think that MOST of life is a GRAY area....very little of it is black or white.

Therefore if we have a Nice-O-Meter that ranges in scale from: 1(Saint) to 100(Satan) then I don't think that *anyone* has to be gauged a "1" in order for many of the others to be seen in the 80-100 range.

Yes....Jason kind of "went along" and sort of nodded and agreed when some of the HGs were being nasty behind the backs of others (but then, he's not exactly the "leader" type....one to put his foot down and make a big poiint that that it is wrong and that he simply will not tolerate it...he just sort of went along with the peer pressure of constant trash talking). AND....he didn't (as I recall from the live feeds) ever start up a session of condemening others in the hateful and unreasonable tone that some of the others have. (Dani, Marcellas, Chiara, and Amy immediately spring to mind)

Nobody in the house was "perfect"....but many of them were LOT further from "perfection" than others....

JMO

Costacat

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lori never "trash talked" about anyone. Of course, she wasn't there long enough.

The lizards HAVE trash talked, or at least BACK talked. They were very definitely having an "episode" last weekend. I'm sure one of 'em was trying to verbalize something to the effect "look, she's doing it again, she refuses to pay us any attention and all we see is her darned tattoo!"

When you talk about someone being "worst" what do you mean? A single instance when a word was misused. Or the numerous times when someone was called the same word? Compare Lisa's single word to Danielle's numerous "he's the devil" or "he's satan, he's Lucifer" and tell me which is worst. I THINK Danielle is far worse. You don't know yet if Lisa actually meant PEDOPHILE or if she mispoke.

I do agree that Josh calling Gerry a Nazi was bad. Worst? Nope. Probably on a par with Danielle.

Not to bash Danielle, but she very often could not say anything behind a HGs back unless it was a negative thing. She seems to prefer name-calling -- even calling Jason "the virgin". I think labels of ANY KIND are horrific.

Woodpecke®

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
According to a lot of these posters, Jason should have said: "You people are all selfish horrible gossips with nasty words and I find you all repulsive." Then he should have said: "Because you all suck, I am leaving this game and I don't want any money because it is tainted with your attitudes." LOL!

Cindyluvsroddy

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i feel the same way Gina!

wendo - when other HG's have said nasty hurtful things about other HG's - it has been brought up in a thread instantly ....

the reason Dani gets more reaction is the fact that she does it ALL the time ....

also Wendo, alot of us would love to root for Dani - but we can't past at the level of her remarks and actions against other HG's

What555456

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
SanFran

Are you urging people to support one of the HG's over another based on where the needle points on the "Nice-O-Meter"?

I know many of the posters do exactly that, but I have always thought it was an erroneous criterium given the nature of this game.

Redgirl30

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Woodpecker LOL!

Woodpecke®

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Main Entry: pe·do·phil·ia
Pronunciation: "pE-d&-'fi-lE-&
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin
Date: 1906
: sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object

There ain't no children in this house, even though most of them are as selfish as a 6 year old that isn't allowed to eat a candy bar before dinner.

Fanny

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Woodpecker, and if Jason had made that speech it would have been followed by a chorus of

"jayboy the reason you're leaving is that we're evicting your ass!!!!"

Sanfranjoshfan

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What555456 - "Are you urging people to support one of the HG's over another based on where the needle points on the "Nice-O-Meter"?"

Nope...not at all. I was just pointing out that I believe it's more a matter of "degree" than an "either/or" type of gauge.

edited to add - In the area of trash talking - "None at all" is not necessarily the only option that differentiates it from the acceptability of "a lot", "some", or " a little" trash talking.

Wendo

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Woodpecke® said, "No, Wendo. Marcellas is the worst basher in the history of reality T.V. I do care about the frequency, especially when it becomes more than an isolated incident. Lisa recanted her use of the word pedophile, and her usage of it in a description of Gerry was totally in error and without foundation."

Well, we disagree then. Because, a bash is a bash is a bash in my mind. Whether it's once or ten times. Also, the kind of word used is a factor as well, imo.

As far as Lisa, so, since she "recanted" all is ok with her? That she misunderstood the definition? To me, that sounds like an "excuse", the same kind of excusing that you disagree with regarding Dani. Lisa said it in front of cameras. And, as many have hypothosized, likely took it back because BB warned her. In addition, she has continued to make less than flattering statements about Gerry.

If you're not going to excuse Dani and state emphatically that there is no excuse, then the same standard applies to Lisa. There was no excuse for calling Gerry a pedophile.

Woodpecke®

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Nope. Not excusing it at all. But Danielle and Marcellas live and die by the bash. Sweet in person and all flowery and complimentary in good-bye messages. Lisa saying that to Gerry was horrible, but not a fatal statement. We do not agree here.

Cindyluvsroddy

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
so wendo, if dani made remarks about u behind your back, would u still supprt her? lol

Phillymom

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I remember when my oldest daughter was about 10 -- she did something completely hair-brained, but I can't even remember what it was now. I was so annoyed that I said to her "What are you? A complete moron?" I'll never forget the look on her face -- the hurt and the disbelief. I'm not a name-caller, and I think my outburst shocked me as much as it did her. Anyway, the point of the story is that a bash one time is a mistake. A bash over and over again is abusive. There's a world of difference. But I guess we all have our opinions on this, and we should just agree to disagree.

Ark

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 12:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well I'm thinking that Gerry was just as hurt by that one pedophile comment as Roddy was by the many devil comments. I know that I would be. In fact, I would rather be called the devil a hundred times than be called a pedophile once. I just can't see justifing to myself that it's OK for me to degrade someone once a day but it's over the line if I do it more than that.

I'm not trying to say here that I think Lisa deserves to win more than Dani does, or vice-versa. I'm just trying to understand how people can condone behavior from one person and condemn the same behavior in someone else.