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Fruitbat

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 04:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Draheid...curious site. I am from Michigan, a state that the map shows is a solid 'pop' state. Never in my life did I hear anyone use the word 'pop'. The site does not mention the use of 'soda pop' either.

Coke is coke no matter where you are, it is a brand name. Interesting they threw that in there.

Who knows where they come up with these things.

Rig

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 04:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I might get in hot water for this,and it's OT, but I really am curious. What do those of you from the South call the war (1861-1865)? Do you call it the Civil War, or something like "The War for Southern Independence"? And what are the kids taught in school?

Wcv63

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 04:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fruitbat, yeah coke is coke no matter where you are but many (including myself) in my neck of the woods use the word Coke exclusively to denote ANY carbonated beverage. Yeah...it's odd but then being odd can be a good thing. :O Now if only I can figure out how to give a "half brow" salute!

Hillbilly

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 04:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Rig...we call it the 'Civil War' just like everyone else. We're just the bottom part of the country, not a totally different country. LOL

And we don't refer to the north as the union states either. You're just north. We do occasionally refer to the northerners as 'yankees' though when we hear ya make comments about our cuzins! :)

Didn't we have this same conversation in the "Amy Too Country" thread?

Aus10

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 04:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The funny thing about a southern accent is how easy it is to pick up.....If I spend more than a couple of days in a row visiting hubby's relatives, I come home home ainting, cainting, and ya'alling. And for some reason I have a hankering to whip up ham hocks, cornbread and red eye gravy.....:)

The best accent I ever heard was a lady from Boston who moved to Nashville, TN. It's a riot to her her ask, if we wanted to take the ca to the paak, ya'all.......

Wcv63

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 04:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'll confirm Hillbilly's post that indeed, we are taught about the "Civil War" here in Louisiana. We occassionally will make mildly mocking comments about the "poor souls" who live on the "other side" of the Mason-Dixon line and will use the word Yankee when referring to folks from up yonder. Also, and I haven't seen this mentioned yet, any discussions about California politics are usually accompanied by eye rolls.

Saba

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 04:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
He is polite and well-mannered. Aren't all Southerners this way? GO BAMA!
What's the deal with the Coke? Do you really call pop coke?

Hillbilly

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 04:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
..oh, and for the record, the comment about using 'grits' to test Jason's southerness (hillbilly wondering if that's a word...and if not, can he get copyrights and royalties for usage)....I'm a true blood southerner (dirt farmer south) and I HATE grits. I've never had hammocks, can't stand turnip, mustard, or collard greens. I do however LOVE fried okra. In fact, I just love okra period...boiled, fried, pickled!

Fruitbat

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 05:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Moth eaten brows back attcha, Wcv!

Jaxrock

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 05:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm Yankee-born, but to a southern family. I love grits! With just a little butter (or oleo, as Mammaw calls it), or fancied up with syrup or cheese or ham or, heck, just about anything. Grits rock! Raised on soup beans, cornbread, hominy (yuck), fried taters. Let's hear it for southern cooking!

Hillbilly

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 05:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
OH....fried taters! Yum yum.

<hillbilly just realizin...we eat alot of fried food!...what's up with that?>

Duchess

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 05:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm sure you never had hammocks, hillbilly! lol jk

i love okra..sauteed in tomatoes, onions, and chili..indian or cajun style...and I'm not even southern.

Mystari

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 05:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The Civil War was sometimes referred to as the "War of Northern Agression" by a few of the older generation when I was growing up.

But in school we were taught about the Civil War, and Coke refers to the brand name Coca Cola

Nimtu

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 06:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hee, hee, hee. Hillbilly you are too funny! I hate grits too (guess I fail the southern test). Last night this thread was irritating me, however, this morning I'm just finding it funny. I love the question about the Civil War! Wcv that is so true about CA politics and the eye rolls.

Nemesis

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 06:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi, Alabama here,
Yep, I was taught about the Cival War (I'm 41)
Most educated southern's aren't very proud of the cival war and don't go around waving the flag.

And all my life I've used the "coke" term to refer to "soda". 8yrs ago, second marriage, I married an Ohio boy, I had to learn fast, If I said "coke", I got a Coke...even if I really wanted a Pepsi! Sister-in law, is definately a "pop" sayer.

As for Jason, sure I'd say he is southern. Jason is a gospel singer, so I assume he has overcome his southern accent. I'd bet ya money when he was a boy it was there.

I have a neice that has recently moved to Orlando Florida, 1yr ago, she came home to visit last month, talk about an accent. She definatly has an accent, but it's not the one she took with her when she left Alabama.

Twiggyish

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 06:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Rig, do you think our teachers in the South are only southerners? What kind of schooling do you think our children receive?

Here's another fact, which I can prove, there were southerners who were UNION soldiers. (several of my ancestors in fact) Yes, these men chose to fight on the Union side.

One last major point, southern people consist of all races and creeds. Plus, we have many cultural heritages. (including Native American)

Nimtu

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 06:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You know what's funny? Imagine a thread about: Does (Lisa, Roddy, Chiara, etc) act "Northern"? Wonder what some of the responses and comments would be in that..

Redgirl30

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 06:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay HILLBILLY I'll accept the "okra test" in lieu of grits (also a southern delicacy) I guess there are always exceptions to the rule. But what in the world are "hammocks" ??? I too am a lifelong southerner and have never heard of these!

Boberry

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 07:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
redgirl -- ROTFLMAO, thanks :) -- it's ham hocks, not hammocks! They are used for flavoring, sometimes with greens, etc. Life long southerner and I despise okra in any shape or form and I love grits. I wanted to add to Twiggyish's comments that in addition to southerners fighting on the union side during the civil war, there are many southerners (including myself) who are descendants of soldiers that fought in the American Revolution. This is an excellent thread and I don't find it offensive in the least. It's nice to have open discussion about different areas of our most fantastic country in the world!

Twiggyish

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 07:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bo, yes and WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam..etc.
Mine go back to the Revolution, too.

My grandmother used ham hocks all the time, especially in her beans. YUM..
Oh and I'm having a bowl of grits right now. (This discussion made me hungry)

Scarlett

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 07:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Coke refers to any brown carbonated beverage in my neck of the woods. As it should be, we invented the stuff!

Boberry

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 07:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
you go Twig! Have a bite for me :)

Nemesis

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 07:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I wonder if Hamhocks/greens is a thing of the past, I've heard and eaten greens with hamhocks in my younger life at my Grandmothers, but I wonder if my 17 yr old son would even know what hamhocks and greens are? I know I've never cooked them for him....

ps. I love grits and okra and sweet tea....

Redgirl30

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 07:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Boberry---very familiar with ham hocks! And I'm with you 100% on that okra-YUCK! Grits rock!

Nimtu--it's easy to imagine what southerners would say in that thread about lisa, roddy, chiara, etc...lol It would not be nice! We'd mention what kind of weird food they ate, and if they pronounced certain words with a funny pronunciation, and did thay like living up there with all that snow..etc....
Southerners are very biased in there opinion on geographical location! It's not that we don't like all you yankees, we just feel sorry for you, after all you weren't blessed enough to be born a true southerner!!! LOL

Saba

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 07:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I too think this is an excellent thread. I would like to express to my Southern friends here that I've always had a favorable impression of Southerners, living and growing up in the Great Pacific Northwest (Seattle) it's the Californians we have problems with! :)

Go BAMA! Go Rebels! Go Vols!

Go Jason!