Article about Danielle - Found on another site
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Strkaholic | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:28 am     I found this on another site, the poster found it on Survivor Central...it's very interesting. The Devil & Her Protege A Commentary By Murtz Jaffer Let me preface this column by stating that I did not want to write this. I really didn’t. I used to write articles a lot in other writings paths I have taken, but I said that I would only write the occasional column when the appropriate situation called for it. What transpired on Thursday calls for it. I am appalled by Danielle. Literally disgusted. I actually feel sorry for her kids and I can’t believe I feel so strongly about a reality contestant that I have seen for less then a couple of months. I watch every reality show Mark Burnett and Bunim-Murray put out, in addition to Arnold Shapiro’s darling Big Brother and I have never felt so passionate about a character (or a hamster as regular fans of the show refer to the contestants as). Now I know that some will say that she is only playing the game and that I cannot take what I see her as on TV as being the “real Danielle.” In fact, I constantly argue about how great Lex van den Berghe and Team Guido (from the original Amazing Race are) and how editing tore them apart. And while I still believe that, I do not find my thoughts about Danielle hypocritical because some of the things that she has done in the BB house are unforgivable and no John Doe editor can fake. Danielle referred to Roddy as the devil. I would never expect that to come from a mother of two. I would never insult anyone by using such a derogatory term. She could have called him a loser and I would have no problem. An assclown works as well. But to openly deface the man’s character, in inexcusable. Why is Danielle allowed to pass judgment? Many internet writers referred to the mysterious writer as “Goddy” and I think that this is a pathetic notion, because if anyone thought that they were the ultimate deity in the house it is the venomous snake known as Danielle. Roddy did not lie and I have read every live feed report. Sure he stretched the truth at times, but he did not go out of his way to lie to someone’s face and Danielle has done that numerous times. But I can forgive that. Will Kirby was a master manipulator and I applauded his efforts because he was honest about his lying. Even if he wasn’t, that’s playing the game. But by demeaning Roddy openly, Danielle has lost all of my respect. To call him Lucifer and to orchestrate his demise in the house for no apparent reason is mind-boggling. He was a strong competitor? What evidence did Danielle have of that? He won only one HOH, and never held the power of veto. Sure he had Chiara wrapped around his finger, but she was his in-house girlfriend, much like Sarah was to Rob Mariano on Survivor Marquesas. Roddy pulled the strings of the alliance? Give me a break. He was under the radar and Josh took the fall. No, the truth of the matter is that Danielle took Roddy out for personal reasons. You do not have to believe that, but it is the truth. Roddy never broke his word. He never lied to Danielle. If anything, he did the opposite even guaranteeing her that he would not nominate her (despite seeing her for what she truly is early on). Roddy’s dismissal hurt me yesterday and I have to say that I am astounded by this. Obviously every any reality-fiend (which you are if you are reading this) picks their favorites. The majority of the time, we are left with a bitter taste in our mouth when he is gone (for me it was when Kelly doused Rudy’s torch, and I know for a fact Kixxy’s was when Greg bit the proverbial bullet). But for me, Thursday was different because Roddy did nothing to deserve the torture of sitting next to Julie Chen for all of ten minutes. Danielle, you are still in the house and I know you will never read this. But I want to get a few things off of my chest if only for therapeutic reasons. I think that you will win the money. But you have no integrity. I know that you intentionally lose every Head of Household competition, and I know you do this so that the rest of the people you care about (Jason, Marcellus, Lisa) will take the heat of the nominations. I know that you think you are very smart, and in my heart of hearts I know that you do not need the money (but even I begrudgingly will let this one go because lying is okay in the context of the game). What I will not excuse is the inane person that you are and your spiteful nature. I do not want your commentary every time someone is evicted. I don’t want your feigned remarks about how you lost a friend when Chiara was voted out when you talked smack about her the entire week and then gave her a vote only so that she would know it was you and would give you her vote in the finals. I know that you speak kindly to all the houseguests and then lie about them in the diary room and call them heinous names without their knowledge. I know that every one of your messages to the departed is coerced because you just want them to vote for you. You are a horrible human being, and I am glad that I have this avenue to call you on it. I hate all of the houseguests that are left (even Jason, who I like… only because he has aligned himself with a parasite like yourself) but I sincerely hope that any of them wins the money over you because you are disgusting. This is coming from someone who has rooted for Richard Hatch, Jerri Manthey, and Will Kirby. I will end with a brief note on the protégé. The protégé is Marcellus and I hope he crumbles into a sea of nothingness as well… because while Danielle seems to know everything about Lucifer, she obviously cannot recognize that being phony is an attribute of evil. And you and your buddy are fake beyond words. Your messages about how you loved Roddy made my stomach turn. Did you love him when you called him the Price of Darkness? Did you think that America would really buy you saying that evicting him was strictly business? Can either of you sleep well knowing you eliminated the only true person in the game left standing (excluding Jason who is guilty by association)? When one of you wins the money (which I think is inevitable), I hope you do not that that each vote you receive from the banished speaks for me. Because while you are awarded shopping sprees, and videos from home (only because we wanted to see you cry Danielle and not because we actually care about you), America’s Choice really is ANYONE EXCEPT DANIELLE. Thanks. |
Lovelynessa | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:35 am     This is ridiculous. I can not believe that some people take Danielle's use of calling the Devil so literally. I mean my mother use to call me a little Devil all the time when I did something sneaking or wrong and good gosh I sure don't think she hated me. In fact it is a common term amongst many peopel I know to referr to someone who is slick or charming or attractive but uses those attributes for less than positive means. I don't think Danielle's children having anything to be ashamed about. Funny how Tonya, Chiara, and Lisa can parade around in peanut butter bathing suits and no one thinks that their family should bat an eye. |
Battlestar | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:36 am     Curious: -----I wonder if there will be any black community backlash on voting out Marcellas. Having the 2 'token' blacks get to the final 5 was awesome, but can you imagine if they both got to the final 2. But Danielle was the instrument of Marcellas' eviction |
Fanny | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:37 am     I can't tell if he likes Dani or not. |
Krossd | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:37 am     Sour Grapes and the author may have some valid points about Danielle, but is in major denial about Roddy. If it was only Danielle that saw the threat he was and the methods he was using I'd say she'd be more valid. But it wasn't only Danielle that got the 'creeps' about Roddy and she couldn't insert what others would feel to the extent they felt it if it were not there. |
Woodpecke® | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:37 am     Why do we care about this article? It is poorly written, contains numerous errors, and comes from a person that is obviously bitter about her hero and dreamboy being kicked out of the house on a GAME SHOW. Trite and silly. Pffffft! |
Ryn | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:38 am     Articles are to be posted in the outside the house area, so moving this thread - ty |
Goddess146 | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 02:53 pm     Dani's trashy behavior can not be used to justify Roddy dishonerable behavior. |
Lisad | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 05:31 pm     That's the most ridiculous piece of garbage I've ever read. |
Bailey | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:08 pm     I agree with this author and applaud every word she wrote. |
Loppes | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:04 pm     I too agree with the author. Lon |
Tobor7 | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:17 pm     I agree with the author. Except, she will not win the 1st prize. Best she can do is 2nd. And shame on Jason for NOT telling her to stop calling him the devil. |
Cindyluvsroddy | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:50 pm     i agree with the author Dani's name calling is hideous |
Sanfranjoshfan | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 09:58 pm     I think the article was poorly written and not very professional as a "piece of journalism" ....but I do completely understand the visceral reaction to Dani that the author apparently had. |
Wendo | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 11:11 pm     "Can either of you sleep well knowing you eliminated the only true person (Roddy) in the game left standing (excluding Jason who is guilty by association)?" Sounds like a bitter Roddy fan to me. |
Earthmother | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 11:26 pm     So do you think he would accept her dinner invitation? His is an opinion just like those here. I agree with some of what he says and don't agree with some. |
Tre34 | Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 11:10 am     Dear Roddy, Thanks for the article above. However, your opinions are yours and mine about you will be mine. |
Breezy | Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 11:31 am     Tabor, that is also a question I have asked myself. Why has Jason not hinted to Danielle about toning down her "devil" talk, refraining from mocking and bashing the HGs, and cleaning up her language? They both supposedly adhere to Christian values, and both read their Bibles regularly. Jason has, on the whole, reflected his Christian faith, but Danielle is another story. I believe I heard her mention that her father is a preacher; I wonder what her father thinks of her now? Where has her common sense and good judgment been during this show??? |
Wendo | Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 12:52 pm     Breezy, maybe Jason figures it will hurt her in the end and make his chances of winning all the better if he and Dani are the final two. Plausible, yes? |
Jeeny98 | Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 01:36 am     Maybe Roddy, himself wrote that. LOL Sounds like something he'd say. Making someone else look like a horrible person for not letting him get his way, then chiding them for not seeing what a great person he is. I say they're too peas in a different pod. A great person doesn't have to tell other people he/she is great. I've never seen anything he's written though. |
Costacat | Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 08:47 pm     I agree with most everything the author of this article says. I doubted Danielle's integrity, it bothered me how she constantly called Roddy names, and I've noticed how she tends to try to make herself look "nice" (sympathy votes, throwing HOH, DR convos, good bye messages). I sincerely hope she does NOT win ANY money, other than the stipend she was paid to be on the show. Wood, what errors are in the article? The only errors *I* saw was bad HTML codes that didn't convert when the article was copied. |
Sassylady | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 08:27 pm     This is a journalist who wrote this? Not buying it at all. Just a long Dani bash..IMO Not to say that he/she did not make some valid points but he/she lost me with the "I read every LF post" and this person still did not see that Roddy was playing the game hard too! Also, most Hgs feared that Roddy was the main threat.
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Wendo | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 09:45 pm     Sassy, I don't think it was a journalist, but rather an article to a reality tv website. FWIW. |
Sia | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 06:27 am     The article is so strongly-worded that I believe that Roddy--or someone close to him--wrote it. "Price of Darkness?" LOL, Danielle called Roddy the PriNce of Darkness! |
Turgon | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 08:21 am     i still have yet to see anyone give me proof of roddy lying, everyone says he was dishonest and all that bs. give me proof, name a time he lied to anyone in the house. im not really a fan but people are always complaining about roddy yet i see no evidence when the evidence against dani is monstrous. |
Wendo | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 08:32 am     Turgon, someone put a website together listing a few. Here's the link (sometimes slow to load). http://members.aol.com/roddymanipulator/ It's not a big deal that he lied, and maybe he didn't even realize he was doing it at the time. They all say things at times to strengthen their positions in the game. |
Billhere | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 02:31 pm     Thanks, Wendo. I could recall at least five times Roddy had told ouright falsehoods but seeing the long list of documented untruths certainly proves that he was "devilish" in his dealings with the other HGs. Of course, he was no worse than others in the house, but his repeated self-rightous claims of purity and honesty is what I disliked about him. |
Yankee_In_Ca | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 04:57 pm     I'm posting this here because I don't want to start another thread. Here's a reality tv article from the Buffalo News that includes Danielle around 1/2 way through the article: http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20020915/1000887.asp Unscripted humanity puts reality in 'reality TV' By JEFF SIMON 9/15/2002 It may be my favorite moment of "reality TV" thus far. Chip and Dale, the emcees of "American Idol," had just announced that Tamyra Gray, the cobalt-throated soul balladeer who blew the judges away weekly, had been found wanting by the show's audience and was, therefore, officially bounced off the show. But because of the show's rules, she'd have to sing one more overwrought power ballad before waving goodbye to America. The show's director was no fool. He could have stayed on Tamyra's tearful, resigned face as she accepted her fate with grace and equanimity. But in the control room they knew that the real action at that second was among the judges. Simon Cowell, the venomous Brit music biz type, looked as if he'd just been punched in the gut. Paula Abdul, the former "fly girl," resembled a woman who had just discovered, after a few miles, that she'd taken the wrong bus. Surely, there was some mistake said Abdul's stricken face. And that, said Cowell's expression, is the often dismal reality of show business. Talent doesn't always matter. At all. This was something you seldom see on television - people coming face to face with their own audience. Sure, on the "Today Show" the hosts mingle briefly and daily with the jumping, yelping sign carriers on the other side of the studio window - the ones from Chillicothe, Punxsutawney, Oshkosh and all points west. There's nothing new about that in show business: there's always a crowd waiting outside the stage door. What Cowell and Abdul were experiencing first-hand was the behemoth young female demographic of the show's audience who were appropriating the prerogatives of pop music critics and insiders for themselves. And they'd decided that all of Tamyra's full-to-bursting Whitney-flavored wailings weren't good enough. She just wasn't cute, enough, you know? In the truly immortal words of Dolly Parton (no one has ever said it better): "People don't want you to be you. They want you to be them." Tamyra, it seems, wasn't them. Justin Guarini, on the other hand, actually made it to the final two despite a talent deficiency the size of Pittsburgh, just on the basis of the nonstop cuteness he offered to that same young female demographic. Don't tell me there isn't actually reality in "reality television." There is. When you see, for instance, Danielle Reyes on "Big Brother 3" - the show that demonstrates what hell is going to look like in case you need to prepare yourself - you're seeing the kind of consummate operator familiar everywhere in the world. Here is a woman who, with virtually no effort or misgiving at all, can play anybody without them knowing it. Here is a woman who has admitted to being "as fake as my implants." Anyone who has ever been to high school or college or, for that matter, ever functioned in a modern work place, has known a Danielle, just as they can recognize on the show the intense gossip-and-ostracism world that actually shows what happens when hugely annoying people are thrown together for money and fame with no relief from each other than the weekly opportunity to vote one of their number out. The very fact that the show stars the kind of person who would consent to live weekly in full view of millions tells you how rock-bottom annoying they all are - and I do mean all. On "Survivor," the Rolls Royce of "reality TV," they have to contend with the elements - bugs, snakes, bad weather, marauding microbes of unknown origin. No one on "Big Brother" has to face anything chancier than another contestant's dubious hygiene. On "Survivor," the vagaries of one's own alimentary canal are a virtual given. There is, in case you didn't know, a brand new "Survivor" on the way Thursday, right after a two-hour, final-stage "Big Brother." This new "Survivor" is in Thailand - not the glorious restaurant Thailand of Thai food palaces but presumably an overly vegetated place where the flora and fauna are at constant war and a new interloping tribe of film crewmen and stateside exhibitionists will put down temporary stakes. In the middle of wall-to-wall new season hoopla (at long last, a new "Sopranos" season premiere!), "reality TV" carryover may not seem like much. And yet it is. At the very least, there is always a chance to see a truly unguarded, unscripted moment that shows you something profound about the human species. Like, say, Simon Cowell and Paula Abdul, after blabbering weekly about how Tamyra was the class of the entire "American Idol" field, coming up against the brute facts of the show's actual audience. On a better show, they would have jettisoned the final song. Chip and Dale, would have ended by asking Cowell and Abdul a very simple question: "OK guys, aside from your paychecks, what do you really think of American idolatry now?" |
Letmeinthere | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 04:53 am     This "writer" has written about ProWrestling and interviewed some past Survivors (usually the first ones voted off the island)mostly on internet sites. Sounds like he wrote this "article" out of anger and opinion. "Journalists" like this one usually have careers with tabloids like the Nat'l Enquirer. |
Cricket | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 11:57 am     Oh yeah, Roddy had a hand in this letter. Methinks he/she protests too much. I wonder if anyone will show up for his chat this evening. Sure wish someone would call him on his manipulation of others, especially when he 'forgives' people who haven't done anything wrong. LOL. Gee, that's not lying...it's much much worse. It's psychotic. |
Denecee | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 02:38 pm     Please, I had to stop reading it because I fell asleep. Boring! Dani played a good game, but she won't win because evicted HG are too jealous. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. |
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