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Machellewatches

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 10:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hello everyone, new to posting but not new to board, mostly because i am not computer savy..
Is Danielle mad because she is finally having to do some work, to make the final two instead of having Jason do it all?

Watching2

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 11:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It appears she is because of her comments to Lisa. That being said, it could just be strategy she's using on Lisa! She made comments as to not being able to beat Jason in final two. She also just mentioned how he was always in the top 2 or 3 in competitions.

She does seem upset - just said she doesn't now how much more of this she can take. Still, I think she's working she has no alliance with Jason, so maybe Lisa will take her if she doesn't win this?!!! JMO

Guiltyviewer

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 11:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani will be taken to the finals by Lisa if Lisa wins HOH, and by Jason if he wins HOH, and obviously she secures her position in the final 2 if she wins HOH herself. The only reason she is holding onto that key is in order to try to take Jason to the finals, not Lisa as she and Jason have planned from week one in secret alliance. Also, I think that the competition is taking its toll on her---it gets cold enough at night there for them to wear sweaters or wrap up in blankets some nights! Lisa and Dani have been sitting in those bathing suits having COLD water rain down on them with winds also to make it even colder, and they are shivering and numb. I think whatever expressions are on their faces might be hard to define exactly as they are no doubt feeling many emotions just now! IMHO

Cupcake

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 11:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
With Jason out so quick, I almost wonder if he decided to "throw" it to Dani and let her suffer a bit because he knows either one of those women will take him to the top. Good strategy on his part.

Machellewatches

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 11:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cupcake, i agree, i just cannot believe that she gave up, she new that this was the most important to get to the final two. hopefully, she will not backstab jason.

Machellewatches

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 11:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cupcake, i agree, i just cannot believe that she gave up, she knew that this was the most important to get to the final two. hopefully, she will not backstab jason.

Seamonkey

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 11:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh no.. she just told Jason that she will backstab Lisa, after promising Lisa.. She's mad.

Of course if she throws tomorrow's competition to Jason, then IF Jason beats Lisa, Dani won't have to show her treachery.

I wonder if Jason will consider throwing tomorrow's competition, thus putting Dani up against Lisa and letting them duke it out?

Naah..

Her "I just gave away $450,000 G's.. interesting after all the times she said final two is just fine..

Lisad

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 11:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Did you watch the feeds? She was practically dieing.

Backstab Jason? Nope - They just had a convo while Lisa was in the shower telling him everything that was discussed in the pool and flat out reiterating that she's taking Jason to the final 2 if she's able. If she wins the total HOH and doesn't take Lisa - she loses another vote. They are both upset and are discussing Dani throwing the HOH and hoping Jason will win it. Dani's very upset, near tears about everything.

Loyal to the end. Impressive.

Jason? Bonehead for mistaking his bailing cup hand for his hat hand vs. key hand or whatever the heck he did. I'd kill him.

Floresmama

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 11:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It was Jason who needed to win. Either one of them will take her to the final two. Jason should have been more careful. Danielle held on in the freezing cold pouring(artificially) rain for almost 4 hours to save Jason butt one more time. They will probably have Pneumonia by tomorrow.

Jaysgal

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 11:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Guiltyviewer, despite what they played of Lisa tonight (as BB often misleads us), Danielle knows that she has every reason to stay on there. She knows that she has every reason to be concerned that Lisa will not take her. Lisa is not an easy person to read, so you don't take chances. Danielle said the mistake the other houseguests made was to underestimate her. Well, she would be making the same mistake underestimating Lisa, just when Lisa has no one to lean on.

I'm praying that BB was doing the normal misleading and Lisa does not take Danielle to the end. After what Jason said tonight about how he would encourage or persuade another party who wins HOH to take Danielle instead of him, I hope the other houseguests see it and see another major reason to give the first prize to Lisa when it's Lisa vs. Jason.

*Lisa, let justice prevail!!! Gooooooo Lisaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!*

C1mag

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 11:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jay even Lisa said tonight on the show she would take Dani to the finals. In the game she said to dani again that she thinks it would be stupid for anyone to go up against jason willingly. Dani made sure she understood that and Lisa agreed. Lisa will not try to get even with a lying dani by not picking her for the finals. She would be handing Jason the money. That is if Lisa wins the hoh. Lisa will be taking Dani to the finals and so will Jason. That has been dani's goal to get to the end and take at least 50,000. It was a well thought out plan. 30,000 G's aint bad.

Floresmama

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 11:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Am I the only Jason/Danielle supporter who is pissed at Jason first for screwing up and letting his hand slip and then not staying outside and lending his support. He is the one who is in a position to need to win to get into the finals.

Lisad

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 12:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jaysgal - Remember when Lisa made the comments to Marcellus that no one can beat Jason and made a deal with Marci that Jason will go? Lisa also made the same comment to Dani in a convo a couple of weeks ago.

Of course Lisa would take Dani to the finals should she win HOH. Jason will take Dani to the finals should he win HOH. Dani will take herself to the finals should she win HOH.

Dani's going to the finals no matter what. And Dani held onto that key for Jason.

Machellewatches

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 12:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Floresmama, i too am a Danielle/Jason fan, leaving emotions out, they have been the better game players. Jason just better pull it out tomorrow, so Danielle is not so much of a scumbag. The goal has been for them to be in the final two. So he better pull it off, or she is going to have to face the music

Krossd

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 12:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa said that she would take Dani to the final 2. She said that ever since Dani told her of what Chiara did, she felt that way (was just telling her now), but Lisa didn't fall for Dani's "no one will vote for me"... and the first time I heard Lisa directly ask her about her alliance with Jason, and them two taking each other to the final 2. Dani didn't deny it... said Jason has is hard to beat, he's going for someone who doesn't have the votes (which is Dani).... Dani did say she wanted to get their own her onw.... said she wasn't sure Jason would take her (D) to the final 2.

Just before it started to 'rain' again, Dani said something (a bit muffled by the starting rain) ... i will give it to you... (something like that..and proven by Lisa's unmistakeable reply : "You will have to because I am not letting go."

And That too was a ploy on Dani's part, we and likely Lisa could see that Dani wasn't going to make it... Lisa barely complained. They both gave it their best tho! And they don't even think it was shown on the internet. LOL

Way to go Lisa

Guiltyviewer

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 12:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
No Floresmama, I'm a bit ticked at our fairhaired boy myself!! :)He doesn't seem to appreciate what misery Dani was suffering for the two of them, not for herself---she's a shoo-in for the finals because BOTH Jason and Lisa would pick Dani as their partner if either of them won HOH, so she was going thru all that for Jason's benefit, and to try to honor her original alliance with Jason. He dropped the ball, and it fell squarely on Dani's head! Now Dani has lied to Lisa about taking her to the final 2, which she wouldn't have had to consider if Jason had been more focused---love the kid but he didn't carry his share tonight. IMHO

Jaysgal

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 12:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, Lisa said that. But she also said in the past how she believed that Danielle was lying to her about the whole DR bashing and how she thought that people would be more willing to give the money to the "mum".

I suspect that the excerpts BB gave us were simply the usual trying to arouse things. After all, would it make sense that Jason who spoke of how he and his dad discussed strategy would suddenly want to convince the other houseguest who wins HOH to take Danielle instead of him? That surely does not make sense. Jason would not have suddenly forgotten what he was there for. After all, he could win the money and give Danielle a chunk for her so-called dream of a house.

Basically, I don't believe that the excerpts they show us were the complete relevant part. Even if it were, at least it won't be Jason and Danielle.

"She would be handing Jason the money. That is if Lisa wins the hoh. Lisa will be taking Dani to the finals and so will Jason. That has been dani's goal to get to the end and take at least 50,000. It was a well thought out plan. 30,000 G's aint bad."

Actually, Jason just told us implicitly that he didn't deserve any money because he was willing to persuade someone to take Danielle instead. Jason is also the one who did the so-called dirty work for Danielle and was the executioner. Lastly, Lisa dropping Danielle would mean that she had just defeated arguably the "witch". If she's done it, then she scores high in the eyes of those who didn't even want to see Danielle in the finals. They would easily forgive her for leaving their pack, even. She would have scored much more than Jason would have. She has every chance against Jason. Most of the six pack would pick her. Yes, she has a better chance against Danielle, but she does have the vote when against Jason.

Lisad

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 12:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Floresmamma! See above. I called him a bonehead. And rubbing the food in their faces, lighting a fire, rubbing the food in their faces, going inside & coming back out and once again rubbing the "hot" soup, etc. in their faces.

Whether he was trying to psych out Lisa or not - it just didn't feel right to me because clearly Dani was suffering.

Right or wrong. Justified or not - He went down some serious notches in my book. I'm just shaking my head here.

And this thread with the word "finally" in it? LOL Dani's been the mastermind behind this whole thing from day one. She's the reason why J & L are mostly still even in the game. She's worked harder at everything from day one.

Once again - we all watch different versions of BB, don't we?

Machellewatches

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 12:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LisaD-when i put finally in this thread i meant in the HOH competition. i too think danielle has played hard, but most of the dirty work has fell on Jason, ie, the evictions and such. I agree too, he went down just a little in my book. And the food thing, I would have thrown cold water on him after his hot shower, haha. Anyone feeling sleep deprived?

Lisad

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 12:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Machellewatches - Sorry if I misinterpreted.

Sleep deprived? Yep - that would certainly be me.

But I got a bit riled up at the feeds when I kept screaming at D & L to toss that water over onto Jason. I SOOOO wanted them to douse him. They didn't listen. I'm sure BB was rooting for it to as it would have made great TV.

Conversely - I now wish someone would kick him in the a** right now. Just as he's falling asleep.

OMG! I just FULLY read your post. You had the water idea too huh? That would have been awesome if they did that.

I WANT A REPLAY!

Goodnight guys!

C1mag

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 12:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jays Lisa is going by the tone of the house without knowing what they think outside of the game. Inside the house they all pretty much loved Jason and Roddy was so into that whole "integrity" issue that she thinks Jason would get the votes based on that. She has no idea how they think outside of the game. She does know by common sense that Dani has made enemies and she would be an easy victory over Dani. Lisa is going to play for lisa and not think about "maybe" beating Jason. She knows who she could beat in the finals.

Guiltyviewer

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 12:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisad, I agree. Thanks for saying what I was thinking but was too tired to come up with :). (Except he didn't come down a few notches, just I'd like to whack him upside his head with notecards like Julie did Marc! What was he thinking?!)

Edited to add:
C1Mag, exactly! Thanks for clarifying that point so well.
Now let's all get some sleep :)!

Weseeall

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 12:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I could've sworn that instead of Dani promising Lisa to take her to final two (as Dani told Jason later in lizard room) that, instead, she turned loose of her key after hearing Lisa say that Lisa would take Dani to final two.

Was it a "mutual" agreement with each promising the other????

I'm afraid that Jason HAS to win HOH now in order to be in the final two ....since it seems now that Dani WILL throw the HOH competition if she happens to win the second part and goes up against Lisa in the third. <sigh>

Krossd

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 12:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
When Jason said he did all the dirty work (noms and evictions votes, the tie breaker of Marcellus and tonight for Amy to go... but they BOTH did their fair share of 'dirty work' as Dani pointed out today in the kitchen chat with Jason... 'the things I've done Jason", "I've looked people straight in the eyes and lied." She did her share of 'dirty work' behind the scence... Jason's didn't work is as hard daily, and I am not saying his wasn't hard... they BOTH did a share, just in different ways.

Lisa did say she wanted a woman to win, and I do think she will take Dani if she should win HOH. and I think she will! She what happens when you wake up a princess! lol

Weseeall

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 12:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Someone please convince me that Dani is really feeling bad that it may not be Jason and her in the final two. I have this sick feeling that instead of the downer mood she is showing Jason right now, that she is extremely happy ...convinced she is in final two no matter what.