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Oregonfire

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 09:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
<> What a power couple! They would make quite a combo!

but of course Dani is married so just a fantasy

I am reposting this because my post magically disappeared overnight, which of course must have been a mistake. I have included the necessary brackets.

What555456

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 09:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You see, Itsallgood, I don't see monogamy as a given -- like eating is a given. I see it as a value which is not always easy to maintain. I see it as a struggle for many people, especially when they are in a very close and at times intimate setting with somene they are strongly attracted to. I admire those who win such struggle with their own desires.

(A case in point was Jason's discussion about how hard it was for him after the Dinner From Hell not to blow. Whether he should have felt that way or not -- whether it should have been a given that thes epeople tried and failed -- he obviously overcame an very tought internal struggle he was having. Control of one's anger is also to be admired).

Wcv, I agree that her focus on winning has probably helped. But I also do not believe it was easy for her to be so close to Roddy, be attracted to him, and to have given off no hint at all about how she felt.

Wcv63

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 09:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What...I wasn't just talking about her focus on winning. I was talking about her focus on what's real to her. The desire to win is real. Her family and her husband are real. They are her true focus.

What555456

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 09:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Got it Wcv. Thanks for clarifying that. I agree.

Jaysgal

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 10:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"As Meggie pointed out in the other thread, Dani was asked who of the men she found attractive and she said Roddy. She didn't admit it on her own"

Gosh! We have excuses for everything in life. Was not the question a complex question? By answering, she's admitting to attraction to at least one of the men in the house.

She could easily have said: I am attracted to none. Your defence of her is grounded upon the belief that Danielle was given a false dilemma. But I beg to differ. Clearly, Danielle had the option to say "I am attracted to none".

There are times I am asked questions like that and I say none if I am attracted to none. However, if I realise that the enquirer wishes to know who in a hypothetical condition where I had no option to decline all of the men, then it is in such condition that I would pick one of the persons. And of course I would proceed to state that my true preference would be none in a non-hypothetical situation.

So, there's no such thing as one being pressured or forced to choose between all of the men in the house or the men mentioned. Danielle at least would have or should have said "none" first if that's how she truly felt or declined to answer. And then give Roddy if she was told it is only a hypothetical question. Danielle is not a kid. By your admission, Danielle is an aggressive woman, so I do not see how she could be that easily pressured. She was not coerced into giving an answer or that answer. She had the option of saying "none" or declining to answer a complex question.

Itsallgood

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 10:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Then you don't put yourself in the situations of temptation...I really don't feel she did that...she knew what she was getting into and she knew she could do it without a second thought of feeling tempted by anyone.

As Jason said lots of times referring to being a virgin...you don't put yourself in the situations to be tempted, therefor it's easy to not go there.

Depending on who you are I guess...I still think it's a given, considering you are on TV and married that it would just be easier not to be tempted.

Anyway it was a "what if" situation that made her answer that question.

I'm done. Still stand by what I orginally said.

JMHO

Ladytex

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 10:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What is the big deal? I've been married 18 years and I can still look at the menu, but I just can't order! There is absolutely nothing wrong with her finding anyone else attractive. Had she acted on the attraction, that would have been a different subject.

Itsallgood

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 10:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Exactly Ladytex...lol shall I admire you? lol I've been married 21 yrs..same goes for me but I don't think people should admire me for it. lol

My post were in regards to What's statement above. No biggie. Just MHO

Ladytex

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 10:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Absolutely, Itsallgood.... but if you want I'll admire you if you admire me .... LOL

Itsallgood

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 10:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Consider it done! ;-) 2 Funny Us!! hehe

Amac

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 10:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Marc's single (I believe) and he said the same thing, lol.

Jaysgal

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 10:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What55546, I beg to differ. As others stated, it's nothing of the extraordinary for someone to be faithful to a spouse, provided Danielle is truly faithful to her spouse. Hence, it is not something to praise her for as though it were unusual or unexpected (it also invalidates the value of "vows"). Secondly, her failure to mess with men in the house does not make her a faithful wife. Maybe she has not found one that she is in love with. Attraction is not synonymous with being in love. Thirdly, it takes two. Danielle may be attracted to Roddy, but if Roddy is not attracted to her, she cannot force herself on him. Supposing she was truly attracted to Roddy, maybe she was too shy knowing Roddy's aggressive nature to show or express her attraction in a positive sense. From all appearances, Roddy was not at all attracted to Danielle and he hardly thought of her in a sexual sense. I could be wrong. But there were no signs at all of Roddy being [sexually] attracted to Danielle. So, again, it takes two. Who knows how she would have acted had he opened up....

Also, I do not know how you concluded that Danielle gave no hints at all about her attraction to Roddy. Way before her statement last night, other posters had suggested that her behaviour hinted some personal feelings or attraction to Roddy. This was way before Danielle's "confession" last night, whether or not she was being honest. She's often gotten excited or seemed in awe of Roddy when around him.

And here's another possibility: We have presumed that her answer was true to her freelings. But if we accept some assumptions made by others who seemed to argue that Danielle was coerced into saying this, then maybe she was never attracted after all and is saying this for strategic purposes.

Once again, for those who seem to think that Roddy had the same feeling toward her, they're mistaken, in my opinion. I'm afraid the immense love, fear or hate was one-sided and coming from Danielle.

Betty

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 11:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
As so many have said, there's no reason to praise her for a given. There's nothing wrong with just stating someone is attractive. Window shopping is fine, you just shouldn't go in and try something on. Lol, not that Roddy would ever have so much as opened the door for her!

Roddy a hottie? Huh? Sorry, but I just never saw it. To each his/her own.

Was this playing for the jury? Who knows, but I doubt that one comment would change the six pack's vote.

Eden

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 11:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Seems people are making a HUGE jump in logic here. The question was "who of the men she found attractive". You can find someone attractive but have absolutely NO desire to act on it. I don't think Danielle was fighting some burning desire. She noticed a guy was good looking. SO? Saying someone is attractive does not automatically mean that you there is an actual ATTRACTION. I see people all the time I would readily admit are good looking, does it follow that I there is an attraction I would care to pursue? NO!

Roddy was a good looking guy... Danielle noticed. BIG DEAL!

Wendo

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 01:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jaysgal said, " By your admission, Danielle is an aggressive woman, so I do not see how she could be that easily pressured."

I didn't say she was pressured, only that the question was posed and she answered it. That's all, reporting info. Nothing else to read into it at all. :)

Costacat

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 06:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry, but one word comes to mind here: gag.

Costacat just could never see why anyone thought that Roddy was a hottie. I guess Costacat just couldn't get past the ego when Roddy kept saying "I'm the cute smart one." That word again: gag! <grin>

P.S. There is a difference between "attractive" and "attracted to". <snicker> <fanning flames> <running>

Edited to add: not that *I* think either of those terms apply to Roddy, but...

Gidget

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 06:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
After nearly 19 years of marriage I still find my husband gorgeous but I see other men in real life who are physically attractive. But I would never let on to my husband that I think so and so is hot. I think it would be hurtful and disrespectful. Besides just cause a guy is "hot" doesn't mean I could stand him for 19 years, like the one I got LOL.

Movie stars on the other hand are hypothetical and we both know each others favorites but we never dwell on the subject either.

Maybe that's why we're still married after 19 years.