Archive through September 18, 2002
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Archive through September 18, 2002
Floresmama | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 08:02 am     I don't think Danie needs to win HOH on Thursday to win the 50K. I think no matter who wins HOH they take Danielle with them. That being said I think she will try her hardest to win because she wants it to be Jason that she is standing beside in the end. If this year's final HOH is anything like last years there will be a physical challenge followed up by some sort of questions. As we have witnessed Danielle is not the best at phsical challenges even though we are not sure if she has really tried to win one or not. Hopefully gracefulness will not be a factor. I really want Jason/Danielle to go to the end together and win just like they planned from the start. To show how this strategy can work but it has to be played just right with a little luck thrown in. |
Auntkk | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 08:07 am     I just can't be angry at Danielle because I know what it is that she is fighting for. Even after taxes, 50K is life changing. It would pay off all of my debt besides my mortgage and my car, and I could put some of it away for my daughter's college fund. To suddenly go from being in debt to not having any sort of debt burden whatsoever would be like starting over. Everyone who entered the game knew the stakes, and they also knew that they would have to rely on their own intelligence to get to the end. |
Costacat | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 08:12 am     It ain't over till the fat lady sings. There are several possibilities, assuming Amy is the one evicted this week: Lisa wins HOH this week, and chooses to take Jason to the finals. Jason wins HOH this week, and chooses to take Lisa to the finals. Danielle wins HOH this week, and chooses to take Lisa to the finals. Any of the three can happen. Any if the three can go back on their "word." If Danielle thinks about it, there is no way she'll win $500K over Jason. Jason may decide he'd rather take Lisa with him. And there's no guarantee that Lisa will take Danielle, even though she'd be a shoo-in to win against her. So, until we know who is HOH next week, and until that person decides who to take to the finals, there is no guarantee that it will be Danielle and Jason. And I'm fervently hoping that it is NOT Danielle at all. Third place for that woman, pretty please! |
Floresmama | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 08:33 am     Costacat if you really think that two out of three of your proposed possibilities can happen you are not watching the same show I am. From my point of view. There is a very slight chance that Lisa will take Jason but I can't for the life of me figure why. From my vote count the best she could hope for against him is a tie and it is Danielle who brought her into the alliance and carried her to this position to get in the final three. I do not think for a second that Jason and Danielle will ever even consider taking anyone else with them to the end. They have said it over and over again and we have never seen or heard any indication that either of them would go back on that word. |
Bigger | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 08:33 am     I only think it will be interesting if Jason votes Lisa out, or Jason keeps her and Lisa wins HOH. I think everthing else is predictable. Dani and Jason are in it all the way. |
Jan | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 08:38 am     Floresmama I hope you are right about Lisa...my only concern is that, when Marc wanted the two of them to work together to oust Jason, she seemed to think it would be a better idea to oust Dani. She doesn't completely trust Dani and thinks she is using reverse psychology on them. She said that she isn't sure that Dani is telling the truth about badmouthing people in the DR. (by the way, none of them seem to think they are in trouble with evicted HG's for anything said on the net. All of their fears seem to revolve around what they said in the DR. Strange, isn't it?) |
Earthmother | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 09:17 am     The odds of Lisa winning HOH (unless it's a game of chance) are pretty slim. Dani is considered the ring leader and I think she should just keep Jason and hope that act of loyalty helps her. I don't find her DR sessions at all ugly and I don't think the evicted will either. I think she has done her best to explain that she is not there for face time or an acting career, but to win the money for her family. It's the way she went about getting rid of the evicted hgs and the way she continued to make comments about them on a personal level that will be her downfall. She didn't just attack their game playing, but she attacked who they are as people. You can't go back and say "it was business" when you have hurt someone's feelings. She did to them what the Mods won't let us do to her. Backbiting is not fair-play by most people's standards and it's cheap, underhanded strategy. ...therefore IMO it's that element of her game that will cost her votes. |
Sbw | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 09:25 am     Voting is subjective. Jurors will vote their heart at that one minute in time. Dani's horns will retract, Jason's halo will evaporate into thin air and the fog around Lisa will disappear. Who will win? The "devil" Dani, the "angel" Jason or the "clueless" Lisa and some of us will be upset, but it is a game played with no rules and no "defined" winner and only the former HGs "perception" of the "perfect" HG. (The lizards can't even win.) Then another year of BB will come to a close. Next year, the winner should be the person who tells the least number of lies, works the hardest on the least amount of sleep, wears the skimpiest clothes and kisses the most a$$ set up on a point system. Who needs a "jury"? |
Floresmama | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 09:32 am     I for one would not be really really upset about any outcome involving the remaining houseguests. Any winner or combo of winners is OK. Of course I do have a preference but my world won't crash if it doesn't happens. Jan as far as the HGs being more worried about the DR sessions than what the said on the net. I think the reason for this phenomenon is that the tapes are all their family and friends can have for them to view. Jason is the only one to really understand about websites like this one where you can read the LFPs. Plus they are really misinformed about what is shown and when we get FOTH. I think they will all be surprised when they get out to see the amount of nudity that we have all been allowed to see. |
Bmh | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 09:37 am     I read another article on Marcellas..in the Chicago Tribune..about how nice guys dont always come in first...He said he believes that the final 2 will be Dani and Jason but Jason will win..because he believes Dani wont recieve enough votes because she didn't generate enough sympathy for people to give her that kind of money.. Everytime Marcellas talks about the finals and such..he says he doesn't think dani will win..but he never actually comes out and says I wont vote for dani!..thats interests me..maybe he will give her a sympathy vote No matter what anybody says..I still think..Dani has a chance..it isn't a big chance but it is still there..she needs a helluva speech on finale night to take the money..and for some reason I think she has the ablitly to pull it off |
Jaysgal | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 09:50 am     Thank you, Earthmother. Once again, I have seen someone with a relatively similar opinion. I do hope that BB is not favouring any persons in particular (haha! except if it's Lisa), because as I stated she would not be the HOH had they not asked a question that Amy was not privileged to witness (i.e., the time when Lisa was POV), perhaps Amy would have tied the game and they would have to do some arithmetical work, which I would guess Amy is better at. But it happened. Danielle got HOH. Fine. But that does not make her any better at the game than Lisa is. Lisa and she seem to have the same level of intelligence, except she's "street smart". Lisa's biggest threat, provided she does stay, is Jason for competition. If Jason decides to play for it, then we know that he is more likely to win the HOH. Or let's hope that Lisa, as Danielle loves to claim, was also "throwing competitions" this while. Recall Lisa won the POV competition that involved memory (when Roddy and Josh were nominated). She did much better than the other houseguests arranging things in the order of events. And in this last memory competition she didn't score low compared to the other two houseguets. My primary worries is if it involves physical challenge. If it's food, hope she let's her slender body take it all. Although I'm lanky and would not under any conditions take a lump of junk food into my body, I would have to make this last competition an exception and work myself up. LOL! I do hope Lisa closes her eyes. Even for physical challenges all it takes is determination and will-power. Even a person who hardly is good in a game can win when they allow the mind work the body. It's mind over matter. I hope that Lisa is determined this time. And I hope that her enquiry about the HOH was because she intends on and is determined to win this week, provided the competition is this week. Gooooooooooooo Lisa. Amy is a given in likelihood to win HOH. I just hope for her senses and her extreme selfishness to disappear for a moment. |
Jaysgal | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 09:55 am     Whoooops! Bmh, I already said that Danielle's best bet is against Jason. So, I can see why Marcellas said "not enough". But in his previous interview, he did make it clear his position and decision. Under no circumstance would he vote in her favour, except if against Jason (it may be difficult for him if Jason's up too). Even she knows that. He works by trust and emotion. She betrayed the trust and exploited his emotion. |
Costacat | Monday, September 16, 2002 - 10:02 am     Floresmama wrote: "Costacat if you really think that two out of three of your proposed possibilities can happen you are not watching the same show I am." I prefaced my statement with the fact that the game is NOT over. ANYTHING can happen, and it could. There are no guarantees, and that is exactly what I said. And yes, I am watching the same game. |
Phillymom | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 08:05 am     Eric recently said in a chat that the order he would vote for people to win is: Lisa, Amy, Jason, Danielle. Josh (in the same chat) said he wants Dani to win, or maybe Amy. Surprising, huh? With that in mind, I'm not sure Jason or Dani could beat either Lisa or Amy in the finals. You just never know how the jury is going to vote in the end. |
What555456 | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 08:39 am     I don't buy any of the comments any of the evicted HG's make at this point or in the past. Who knows what input or thoughts they have had since they left and will have between now and the final vote? We do not know if their comments are coming after they have really studied things or are still based on their experience in the house. We don't know if they have talked at length to the other evictees or if they will all caucus before the vote and maybe change some minds. Then there are the intangibles -- suppose it is Dani versus Jason at the end, both would valid reasons to win. We dopn't know if such things as the women (or some of them) deciding that they want a woman to win will play into this. None of us knows what any of them are going to finally do. To assume their minds are set is like assuming that polls in an election are set on Labor day when it is clear to any observer that the final month of campaigning in October often changes everything. All of this vote counting tells me many of us have yet to learn that these people were not always consistent in their thinking from day to day in the house, nor were they always honest in what they said to each other or in the DR. Why assume they have changed and are suddenly telling the truth or not easily swayed? |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 08:47 am     I agree What and have said it myself. Sure is fun to speculate though. The women wanting a woman to win is definately something to consider. |
Seanflynn | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 08:58 am     Danni's best chance: She says at the end with Jason by her side -- I had a game plan, I stuck to it, you guys didn't catch on, Jason would not be here except for me, I know he is the one most likely to defeat me, I still kept my word to him, please be fair to me. Not saying it would work, but she would have a case. |
Tabbyking | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 09:01 am     and they would say, 'we are being fair. jason gets the big prize, you get second.' |
Gina8642 | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 09:20 am     I think Dani realizes there is a very good chance she won't win. She seems ok with it. I bet she will be happy no matter the result. |
Wendo | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 09:22 am     Phillymom, I'm not surprised that, at this point, Josh would vote for Dani to win. Once his strategy was blown and he showed that he too was playing the game from the beginning, I can see him tossing aside emotional feelings from the house and voting on who he thinks has played the game the best. He played with a strategy and I think he views Dani as playing with a strategy. However, I do agree with What in that, while it's fun to speculate on what the final votes may be, so much can still happen between now and the final vote. And, with the final two having to make their arguments, votes can change and be swayed to one HG or another. |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 09:29 am     Seanflynn...I agree. It may not work but it is a honest statement and her only chance. Danielle fought for Josh to stay and he knew that and saw it on tape when he got out. Seems a logical vote to me. I can see him supporting the player that played hard. |
Jagger | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 10:17 am     I agree most hgs probably wouldn't vote for Dani to win, she has played a good game, but so has Jason, he tried to stay undercover, while at the same time forming various alliances to help him along. He did this without jepourdising his morals. I think if people watch the tapes or read these boards they will agree that both Danni and Jason played very good games. For that matter so did Lisa, she is still there. Part of Dani's strategy is to make the others think she couldn't win so that if they win the final comp they take her with them. I'm sure she is hoping people vote by who had good strategy and not by personal feelings about what was said about them. |
Wigglepuppy | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 10:32 am     If Danielle makes it to the final two, she deserves to win this game! She fooled them all, and they're only realizing it now. She DID play the gutsiest game. However, Jason will probably win because he's such a nice guy. Essentially, Jason will win because they will perceive Danielle as unfair, mean-spirited or selfish. I just think Danielle, Gerry, Roddy and Josh were playing the game. You have to lie, deceive and turn on your friends in this game to guarantee a win (BB1's Eddie lucked into it, IMO) Go Danielle! |
Wendo | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 10:38 am     Wiggle, interesting comments and I agree. Replace Danielle with Will from last year...and you've got a winner! LOL! Sometimes you wonder if maybe it's true that a woman can't play the same way as a man would and win the game, as many have speculated and commented here. *shrug* |
Phillymom | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 10:50 am     Hey Wendo, I agree with What, too ... which is why I ended my post with the line "You just never know how the jury is going to vote in the end." It is fun to guess and try to figure it all out, but we just don't know all the influences on the jury or their thought processes. |
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