Crazydog | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 02:36 pm     Whit, sometimes moderators edit posts and you will see "<mod>" where something was taken out. Other times I think people are just using < > to imply a bad word that would be moderated. It's like using dollar signs to spell a$$. I think. |
Crazydog | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 02:45 pm     Question, I was reading the EW article on Marcellus and Marcellus says he called Roddy "Jim Jones". Who is Jim Jones? |
Battlestar | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 02:52 pm     Jim Jones was a leader of a bizarre religious organization that was under investigation. They had relocated to central america (?) He convinced all his followers to kill themselves with poisoined Kool-aid--he killed himself too |
Whit4you | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 02:53 pm     Jim Jones is responsible for the death of hundreds of innocent children and their parents. The massacre in Guyanna back in 77? 78? One of the most horrific events of the 70's anyone comparing Roddy as Jim Jones - needs mental help. |
Whit4you | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 02:54 pm     http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial4/jonestown/index.html here's one of many links to it. The front page picture of the hundreds of bodies piled on top of bodies is a picture I can still see plain as day 20+ years later |
Jan | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 02:59 pm     crazy I think he is the cult leader who took his followers down to south america and fed them all poisoned koolaid. They all died (hundreds of tehm I think?????) can't remember more than that. |
Battlestar | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 03:02 pm     --so many of these HG seem to take extremely horrible people and events and compare them to another HGs/ I find it quite bizarre and sad that they diminish these terrible events of the past by comparing them to something as petty as another HG in a contest. |
Crazydog | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 03:02 pm     Thanks all of you for the info. I clicked on that link and read the story, that is horrific. What a terrible name to call someone else. As much as everyone wants to win the game, to be equated with someone like Jim Jones is plain wrong. I'm glad Marcellus recognizes that it was not a nice comment. Danielle's Devil comments at least could be interpreted figuratively, but Marcellus equated him with a real, flesh and blood horrible person. I agree completely with you Battlestar. |
Gina8642 | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 03:03 pm     Guyanna is in S. America. It is one of those 3 small countries at the North Eastern tip of the continent. (East of Venzuala). Jim Jones thought he was the second coming of Jesus Christ. I don't think Roddy quite makes it into this league. |
Ark | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 03:46 pm     I believe that Marc made the comparison because Jim Jones was charismatic enough to get people to follow him and then willingly commit suicide. I think his point was that Roddy is very charismatic. Thanks BBBelle Wow, I just went and checked him out. I have to agree with Amy, he is hot. THANKS BBBelle |
Whit4you | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 03:58 pm     It wasn't charisma it was brainwashing - a common cult tactic. Anyhow it's definately wrong to compare anyone to Jim Jones, McVey, Hitler... they are all just as evil and mass murderers. But I guess Marc was an infant when that happened so wouldn't understand just what a monster Jim Jones was. Still doesn't excuse it in my book - you don't compare someone to some evil person in history without knowing what you speak of. |
Zachsmom | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 04:15 pm     Whit..Marc is my age..so it's no excuse.. I remember hearing about it..then learning and reading about it..sickening.. Marc needs another boop on the head for that remark!! |
Ark | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 04:56 pm     Most people agree that once they got to Jonestown, it became a cult, but before it became cultish, he had convinced over 900 people to follow him to Guyana. From 1956 to the mid 1970's though, it was his charisma that drew people to him. He was appointed director of the Indianapolis human rights commission. After moving to San Francisco he attracted more members and much favorable coverage in the press and from the political establishment as Jones himself and the Temple in general became more active in the community. Jones was even appointed to the San Francisco Housing Authority. My point is, as much as Marc irritated me, I can't blast him for this statement. I can fully understand his comparison between Roddy & Jones. Look at how many of this small group were willing to throw themselves on their sword to save him in this game, and that was after knowing him for a short time. |
Costacat | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 05:02 pm     Charismatics are generally cult leaders. Or rather, I mean that the other way around. In this way, "charisma" does not mean charming. It means a person who places himself in a position of leadership and authority and people just blindly follow along (that was a loose def). |
Lisad | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 05:09 pm     Did Jason drink alcohol in the house at ALL? I thought I remember seeing him on LFs with a bottle of beer or citrona, etc. but I'm 2nd guessing myself. |
Needmylifeback | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 05:33 pm     ...just a note....Marcellas's parting words are up at CBS.com..... |
Gina8642 | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 05:33 pm     What happened to Huck? |
Draheid | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 05:37 pm     Gina8642: Best we can tell from the feeds is that Big Brother took Huck out just after Marcellas was evicted. Perhaps to give it to Marcellas? Don't know for certain. |
Fanny | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 05:37 pm     Why am I such an idiot? |
Pamy | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 05:38 pm     Where is the TVCH t shirt thread?? can someone bump it up for me to post a message?? Thanks |
Dlurkrgrl | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 05:45 pm     OK, who wants a copy of all those pics they are taking in the house!! |
Draheid | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 05:46 pm     Dlurkgrl: Are you suggesting you have a way to get them or just TEASING us? LOL  |
Dlurkrgrl | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 05:47 pm     Just hoping...I guess I'm just a tease!! If they did sell them for charity, I would take a set!! |
Whit4you | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 05:53 pm     Well I see about as much similarity between Roddy and Jim Jones, as I do to someone who'd refer to Roddy as Jim Jones and Jim Jones. Jim Jones had hundreds of children murdered in cold blood - there's no vaguely remote comparison to peoples on a TV gameshow. Nuff said I hope. Going back to see who's still floating on the pacific with me.... ../9200/1052887.html?1032309572 |
Whit4you | Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 05:54 pm     Fanny - why are you such an idiot?? Is that your Q? LOL |