Archive through September 18, 2002
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Archive through September 18, 2002
Romans8_1 | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:35 am     Jason wins 7-3 Jason Gerry,Roddy,Marcellas, Kiki,Eric, Lori, Tonya Dani Amy,Lisa, Josh If in the event of a tie (I'm not really sure about Eric and Tonya), then I think America votes for Jason to win. |
Phillymom | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:39 am     I agree with all your choices, Romans. Unless Eric sways Lisa's vote or vice versa -- and then again, I can also see Amy voting for Jason. LOL, there's really no figuring it out, but I do think it will be a win for Jason. |
Blossumtree | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:40 am     Grrrr. say it ain't so. say it ain't so. i don't want jason to win cause he gives me irritable bowel syndrome. hopefully lisa wins HOH cause she will most likely take dani with her. |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:53 am     Romans, I agree with that. If Lisa is in the finals with either one I say she wins. I think she will have: Roddy,Eric, Tonya, Lori and Mar. Tie, audience votes Lisa. She may even get Amy's vote. Stranger things have happened. |
Carolm | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:56 am     Between Jason & Dani Jason wins 6-4 Jason has Gerry,Tonya,Roddy,Chiara,Eric & Marc Dani has Lori,Josh,Lisa & Amy Now if its: Between Jason & Lisa Could be Tie Jason Has Gerry,Josh,Lori,Dani,Amy Lisa has Tonya,Roddy,Chiara,Eric & Marc (Wouldnt it be something if Dani voted for Lisa)LOL If its: Between Dani & Lisa Lisa wins 6-4 Lisa has Gerry,Tonya,Roddy,Chiara,Eric & Marc Dani has Amy,Jason,Josh,Lori |
Crazydog | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 12:06 pm     I fully agree with your assessment Carolm. Not sure in an America's Choice if people would vote Jason or Lisa. On the CBS poll Jason has always been rated highly but I think Lisa is climbing fast. After her internet chat airs tonight and people see how endearing she was I'm betting even more people would vote for her over Jason. |
Romans8_1 | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 12:07 pm     Carolm - I might be wrong, but I just don't see Lori voting for Dani over Jason. It's probably moot because pretty much both agree that Jason beats her. Between Jason and Lisa is a closer one. I agree with Carolm's vote counting, but I disagree with Fruitbat's take on America. I think Jason would win. The last time I looked at the polls, Jason was way ahead. |
Romans8_1 | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 12:08 pm     Good point Crazydog on the internet chat. It will very interesting to see the polls after they air the chat. I still think the ONLY way Lisa goes to the final 2 is if she wins HOH. |
Wendo | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 12:09 pm     Assuming Jason and Dani... Likely: Lori - Dani Tonya - Jason Amy - Dani Eric - Jason Josh - Dani Chiara - Jason Gerry - Jason Roddy - Jason (Dani knocks out his vote) Marcellas - Jason (Jason knocks out his vote) Lisa - Jason 5-3 Jason However, the vote knocking out could change everything. Say it's 5-5 for Jason, but if they both knock a vote for just one of them, then the other person would win. ie: Jason negates a vote for Dani, but it turns out it was a vote for him. Dani negates a vote for Jason, and it was a vote for him. Jason would then lose, 5-3. I know this scenario isn't likely, but it could happen. Heck, it may even be unanimous for Jason. So many possible scenarios. |
Scorpiomoon | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 12:11 pm     I think it would be a landslide vote for Jason. No, wait..maybe Marcellas would vote for Danielle--still bitter about Jason evicting him. So, I'll say 9-1 for Jason. |
Tunape | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 12:11 pm     You also have to consider if either of the final two are permitted to void one of the evicted person's vote. The final two may choose to cancel a vote of someone they think would probably vote against them. Then there would be only 8 votes to consider who would win. Depending on who they each select to void, it could definitely change the outcome. |
Romans8_1 | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 12:14 pm     Great point Wendo! I forgot about the vetos, and I agree that Jason will probably get rid of Marcellas, not knowing that he is a vote for him. Dani will definately cancel out Roddy (and rightly so), but Jason may cancel Josh's, if he doesn't get Marcellas'. |
Crazydog | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 12:15 pm     Marcellas knows that it was Danielle who played him. He is more bitter towards Danielle than towards Jason. If it was Jason/Dani in the finals how they fall exactly depends on who wins the last HoH. If Jason wins (as I suspect since I think Dani would throw it) he will have to evict Lisa, and Lisa is likely to vote for Dani (as she would have anyways). But if Dani wins HoH and evicts Lisa, I could see Lisa voting for Jason. There are a lot of scenarios but in the end I think Jason wins that one easily. |
Romans8_1 | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 12:16 pm     FYI ... I just read a thing on Marcellas and he said that he would vote for Jason. He respects Jason because Jason voted him out for the right reasons (saw him as a threat). He feels betrayed by Danielle and wants to see her win the least. |
Carolm | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 12:16 pm     I think Lori will vote for Dani as Lori was always "A Mother needs to Win". I dont know Lori that well so I could be wrong. If Between Lisa & Jason, If America votes I wouldnt be surprise if its a Tie. I know that would be SCANDALOUS LOL This is so much fun LOL |
Wendo | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 12:18 pm     Romans, that's why I brought up the scenario of Jason vetoing Mars vote. Jason was aware of Mar and Dani's bond, but not of his feelings now (though I think they could change.) So, he could end up cancelling a vote for himself. Like I said, it's probably an unlikely scenario...but it could happen. |
Jagger | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 12:37 pm     Too early for me to guess on voting, but I do beleive Jason would win over Danni. If Danni wins and picks Jason I think Danni would veto Lisa's vote and vise versa. I would assume that who ever gets the boot between L/J/D would want to vote against the person that gave them the boot |
Gramma | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 12:40 pm     Eric's vote Not so sure anymore of Eric choosing Jason over Dani. Reasons why Eric may vote for Dani over Jason : 1. It was Jason voting to evict Eric over Lisa that was the surprise. Eric was sure he was staying. (he thought Roddy had Jason's promise not to evict Eric) 2.Jason voted to keep him from returning to the house. True, Dani did as well, and it may appear that it was Dani's plan, but he wouldn't have been expecting Dani's vote. He may have been counting on Jason's vote. 3. Eric has since had the chance to see how Dani has looked out for Lisa, bringing her to the final and being true to her word with her. 4. In talks that Lisa has had with Dani regarding Eric, whenever Lisa has expressed doubts about Eric's loyalty toward her, (speculating in whether or not Eric was campagning against her or not), Dani has consistently come to Eric's defense telling Lisa that Eric had no part in it and probably didn't even know much of what Roddy and Chiara were doing. 5. Lisa may speak to Eric about why she feels a vote for dani is a fairer vote. Eric would trust Lisa more than anyone else. Chiara's vote I'm not 100% that Chara would vote for a Jason win. That one is a coin toss. Dani's WAS the only vote that Chiara got and while all 3 current female HGs have been trashing C, Dani has said at least as many positive things about C. Marcellas's vote He's had time to cool down since leaving the house. It was Jason who nominated him and Jason was the live tie breaker. If he got the chance to watch the tape of his eviction show, I think he'll see Dani's sobs and feel they were real. ( I know, I know..but I also think they were genuine) Another coin toss. but I think the coin has a better chance of favoring Dani. Amy.. another coin toss, but I think she'd rather see Dani get the money. Final speech to the Jury - I think this could have an impact. Public speaking isn't Jason's strong point and as I've speculated elsewhere, I wouldn't be totally shocked to hear Jason asking the jury to give their votes for Dani. I also expect a very potent speech from dani. Mind you, I also worry about how both of them will do with confrontational questions from the jury. Dani doesn't seem to do well as confrontations (but neither does Ja) so.. while many variables exist Most optimistic set of variables for Dani - Lori Josh Lisa Marcellas Amy Eric Chiara one of these would have to be voided by Jason, but I can't even begin to guess whi Ja would choos to void. for Jason - Tonya Roddy (probably voided by Dani) Gerry so.. while not probable.. POSSIBLE! |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 12:41 pm     On second thought I am not sure Kiki will vote for Jason. OR Gerry either. She now knows Dani wanted Roddy out when they were up. Didn't she fight to keep Gerry for awhile there too? She was laying for Roddy for weeks and trying her best to make that happen. They could see that as favorable. This is definately fun. |
Becca | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 12:47 pm     Chiara has stated many times after watching the tapes that she wants Jay to win. She knows Jason played her but she wants Jason to win. Marc has stated that over Danielle Jason deserves to win. He doesn't feel so betrayed by Jason and feels that Jay was smart for voting him out. Jay knew I was a threat and that's how I wanted to go. AS for Danielle, he does feel betrayed their. Lori and Jason were very close. As for Eric, I think he feels that Danielle used Lisa. so Jason against Danielle is guaranteed Gerry Marc Roddy Chiara Eric. The best Danielle can do is a tie, and if America votes we all know who America will choose. Chiara told Jason to vote her out, and finds it sweet that he didn't nominate Roddy that week he was HOH. |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 12:58 pm     Becca, why is Jason against Danielle is guaranteed? Did I miss something? |
Turgon | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 01:03 pm     i remeber at the beginning of the season BB told the HG's not to make plans for the end game because they (hg's) dont know how its gonna work, i dont think this year is gonna be the same as last year. have no idea what it could be but i bet it has changed., one more wrinkle. |
Bmh | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 01:36 pm     The vote will be Jason vs. Danielle Lori-Danielle Tonya-Jason Eric-Jason Josh-Danielle Chiara-Jason Gerry-Jason Roddy-Jason Marcellas-Jason Amy-Danielle Lisa-probably Jason Jason veto's Marc's vote and Dani's veto's Roddy's vote so it will be so it will be 5-3 with Jason winning |
Kiersten_Love | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 01:46 pm     I was thinking about something...we all think and feel that in the end either Lisa or Jason would win the big one...in case of a tie vote...what we didn't mention though, is that America has not seen Dani's evil side at all, since AS does not show her being evil in any way on tv...so for those who do not read the boards and have Live feeds..it would mean that Danielle would have a big chance in winning with America voting the winner... Food for thought, huh??? |
Phillymom | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 01:57 pm     Just a quick thought -- I'm surprised that some of the people who listed votes in the Jason vs. Danielle scenario think that Lori will vote for Dani to win. I think Jason and Lori bonded the night of the tree competition. And then there was that "argument" over Gerry's hand-washing between Dani and Lori, which I think Lori probably still holds against Dani. I see Lori as giving her vote to Jason. |
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