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Wendo

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lynnann, Lisa and Dani were joking around and your twisting it into something more than it was. It was not viscous or bashing. HeII, Amy HAS walked around the house like that.

Remember the night after the shopping competition when she was in the white dress? She was EXACTLY like that.

Monalisa, interesting observations, thanks!

C1mag

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lynn you are really confusing me! What is this too little too late stuff? If you considered Danis stuff on tv to be vicious and Amy saw it and laughed at it as she did then it's not vicious. How is that too little to late? I also don't get at all the brutal comparison. I say whatever... it's fun debating it. That is what I dig about this board.

Dag cool you found the post but you said that Marcellus changed Danis vote. That is not what happened. That was on Sunday. Tues night Marcellus was going to evict Roddy along with Dani and when Amy went crazy he pulled back and told her to go to Dani herself. He even covered the lying bit by saying the hoh should not dictate or hold it against the house at to the way they vote. Marcellus did not TELL Dani how to vote in the end. Amy did. Amy knows that Dani still evicted Roddy because of a promise she made to Chiara but right in front of Amy she made sure Jason changed his vote so that Chiara would go. I give no energy to Marcellus about Danis vote on vote day. Still glad you found the conversation and specifically the date. Look up the conversation that happened on Tuesday evening. It was a different story for Marcellus.

Dagny

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I still thik Marc.'s words factored into her decision. JMO

C1mag

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You know what? I didn't even consider it as anyone jumping all over me. I was loving the debate. All I keep reading is it doesn't matter really what the turth is about her they just don't care for her so give it up on defending her. I'm not really defending her but defending the truth vs the myth. I still say I love the debate. I knew there were others who saw the same thing I did when reading some of these posts about her. I hate being called a fibber but it's better than being called other things and I don't want the mods to edit anything that was said against me cause I've got thick skin and I don't want to ruin the debate. In a way I'm looking for one solid justification for all this dani negativity so I'm willing to take on the flack cause if someone points something out and it can be covered then I'm still left in her corner thinking she is the best of the ones that are left :)

Wendo

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dagny, most of the Dani fans have always commented about her faults and weaknesses. In fact, I take the time to comment about it in most of the posts I make about Dani. I include that I think her gossiping ways will likely hurt her chances of winning. And, C1mag has always said as much as well.

In fact, I would argue that most Dani fans don't cover up her bad behavior.

However, what we do point out is the OBVIOUS double standard that exists for Danielle and not the other 11 HG's who've participated and exhibited said same behavior and aren't nearly judged as harshly. (Nor has their families been judged so badly as well. Dani's kids, husband, and family have been just trashed.)

So, I'm sorry, I disagree. If Dani fans were trotting all over the board stating that Dani doesn't trash talk, well then, I'd agree. But, that's just not the case at all.

Lynnann

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I do too Mona, I was just very proud of the editing done for tonight's show in which for once they showed Amy enjoying herself and Dani- well being Dani, it was the show I had been waiting for all season. Yes Amy will leave but she will never have Dani's baggage, I don't even think Mark or Roddy will.

Wendo

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dagny said, "I still thik Marc.'s words factored into her decision. JMO"

If that were the case, then Li, Dani, and Mar wouldn't have agreed to vote Roddy out two nights later. Sorry Dagny, I think you're wrong here.

C1mag

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dag thats cool! I can respect that. I hope you can respect the fact that I don't think in the end that his words meant anything.

Sanfranjoshfan

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag - I think I see at least *part* of the problem here...you said - "It just cracks me up when I read all this negative stuff and yet it wasn't said or it has been misinterpreted."

The thing is...your belief that something has been "misinterpreted" by a poster....is YOUR "interpretation" of that poster's observations.

I saw Dani call Roddy a MF-ing "roostersucker" and she said she wanted to spit on him (this was after he was evicted). At the time you said that you felt it was justified. I believe that was a "misinterpretation"....because *I* felt it was completely UNjustified.

My point is that we ALL interpret the behavior that we see according to our own standards...some of us will see things in one light and others will see them in an entirely different light.....because we each have DIFFERENT life experiences and we view things differently. We measure people on our individual scales....not a collective one.

So...when you make a blanket statement that others "misinterpreted" an action or behavior that they have observed, you are implying that your personal interpretation is the only true interpretation.

Interpreting human behavior is a subjective thing....stating that others are not able to make a valid interpretation from what they have seen is what gets some people's ire up.

JMI (Just My Interpretation) :)

Dagny

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag...I can agree to disagree... Just don't tell me my opinion is wrong...because that is what this board is about. Opinions... and we had a heck of a time expressing ours tonight. Yes?

C1mag

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey someone tell me what Lynn keeps referring to as Dani looking so vicious and now apparently carrying baggage out with her based on what the show edited. Lynn did use the word "EDITED" right? Anyway could someone enlighten me cause I'm real confused. Amy has seen these imitations of her. Amy has known all along where dani stands when it came to the chiara/roddy eviction. Is this just over play on that negative myth some have created or did I miss something in the edited tv show?

Annitar

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
C1Mag you are awesome! Your last post shows what an asset you have been to this board!

I wish I had as much patience with the remarks towards you as you are! LOL!

Monalisa

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Not to add fuel to the fire on that vote debate....BUT....I think they decided the night before to evict Roddy. Danielle asked if they should tell Amy. Marc said "NO." Then he couldn't wait to tell Amy.

(Before typing this I did not check any feed and have no intentions of doing so, this is simply my recollection...lol)

C1mag

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes we did Dag! Understand I never said your opinion was wrong I said some of your reasons for your opinions were wrong. Thats all I meant. I respect everyones right to an opinion :)

Wendo

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Monalisa, your recollection is correct, that's what happened.

Dagny, didn't mean to imply your opinion was wrong. Sorry about that. :)

Dagny

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag...likewise....

Lynnann

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
C1- it is very simple,tonight they made Dani look bad and Amy look good. I can now be happy when Amy goes. It was a beautiful tribute to her and she deserves it.

Cute1073

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
gag...checking the feed title for the I love Amy club...nope didn't stumble accidentaly into the wrong rooom...do I have to run screaming from here too?
Man....Amy has truly vaulted to saint status...I guess that makes me and my husband the devils for hating her screetchy voice everytime we hear it....sorry...but had to be done...i endured attacks on Chiara, Roddy, Eric, Lisa and Dani...all great people (IMO) and Amy fans are just gonna have to read my anti-amy posts

C1mag

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Not really Sanfran. What I specifically mean with the word interpretation is interpretation of the moment vs interpretation of the statement. alone your referrence to what Dani said about Roddy would be vile if not for the moment it was said. In that moment, while they were all realizing what he had pulled on Amy for a couple of days the man had become exactly what Dani had called him. However, if you let it stand alone then it would be wrong. Thats a misinterpretation of her comments. It's just like the many words that others referrence her saying. Sometimes she has said them but then what was going on when it was said? For me it's poor judgement to reference a comment without understanding when and how it came up. This is what I mean about misinterpretation of the comments and the moment they are made.

Lynnann

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cute- I liked Chiara too,I'm sorry Amy and kiki didn't get along. I felt Roddy used Chiara and often hope she is not hurt by him on the outside.

Cute1073

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
sorry lynn...i may have over reacted there..I think i'm feeling frustrated because I've searched this thread and only found postives comments and threads about Amy...i'm looking for the hg debate about our opinion of Amy with the little frown face....how come there isn't one for her but one for everyone else?

Wendo

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cute, I think Amy's Opinion thread fell into the archives. Maybe???

She has an I Like Amy thread.

C1mag

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I guess I didn't see Dani as bad. I saw her as completely honest in the dr and made it clear... she has been honest to two people in that house. Herself and Jason. How you can find a fault with that I just don't get but that is cool.

I gotta say that relying on an edited version of this game would drive me up the wall if I was relying only on that. I probably would have thought Roddy was a great guy cause they did nothing with him on TV and he sat there like a freakin statue in the dr sessions they showed. However, watch him live and in action and WOW.. we had a real player in him who admitted that those dr sessions were a complete lie and a part of his strategy.

C1mag

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dang this show is almost over I'm gonna miss these late night debates :(

Cute1073

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
yeah wendo...i just don't want to be rude and start saying things i don't like about Amy on a thread that is suppose to be nice to her