Would you hire Jason as your Youth Pastor?
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Boberry

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 07:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Since the thread that was on here last night about this was made private for some bizarre, strange reason, I thought I would start a new one because it is interesting to me.

I would hire Jason no problem. I think he has done well on the show, he is compassionate and kind and understanding and patient, and I can see kids really being drawn to him.

Hippyt

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 07:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hippy slowly backs away from this thread,turns and runs...............

Costacat

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 07:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bo, it was probably removed because the moderators thought it was necessary. This happens on occasion when certain threads veer into areas that bash HGs or posters, or are discussing things not related to those inside the BB house.

Monkeygal24

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 07:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Jason is a very devout Christian and I think that he would be a great Youth Pastor. I do think he makes mistakes like the rest of us but I think that most young adults would just be in awe of him. His influences would be great to others. He definitely needs to work on being more independent and making choices for himself but that will come with time and watching the tapes of BB3.

Maris

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 07:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
No I would not hire him.

Boberry

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 07:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hippyt - don't run away because of me! I wouldn't start a thread if I expected everyone to agree with me. Share with love :)

Costacat - probably so, but its unfortunate that we can't all post and be considerate of others opinions. I just like to hear what other people have to say. There were a couple of Buddhists who posted and said no and there were a couple of posts that were not clear as to standing or opinion.

Costacat

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 08:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bo, I was merely responding to your "for some reason" statement. There was quite obviously a reason why the thread was removed.

And fwiw, I was one of the Buddhists.

Blossumtree

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 08:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
personally if i were a houseguest i think i would feel quite uncomfortable around jason. but as for him being a youth pastor well that's something you can't really determine by his actions inside the house...maybe he's great with kids but is intimidated easily when it comes to interacting with adults, you know, like michael jackson.

Jaysgal

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 08:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
As I said yesterday, no, I would not hire him. At the surface, he seems decent for the kids and would look appealing in being hippy (and I use that term "hippy" loosely). Nevertheless, to me if I were a believer in any faith, it is to stand philosophically to what my belief is. I am not convinced that Jason would have strength long enough to persevere (and yes, I do know that he's been a youth pastor before). I know we are human and all have our weaknesses, but I would want someone who is strong in words and actions. I'm not convicned that Jason is strong in both. Perhaps he strives to be a better person, but he appears to be one who needs renewing strength and battles to understand things he does not speak out but is within him, lest he goes astray.

Boberry

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 08:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cost, I appreciated your post as to the reason. Must have gotten ugly after I last posted because it didn't seem bad the last time I checked. And I am very interested in differing religious beliefs and don't know much about Buddhists except that it is my understanding they are a very peaceful, spiritual people. I'm sorry if you felt I was being ugly or picking on you as that was not the case; I really wanted to hear what other people, especially those who are not involved in organized religion (or a situation where they would have a youth pastor), had to say.

Boberry

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 08:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Very interesting analysis Jaysgal. Thanks for sharing. And Blossumtree, too funny about Jocko! :)

Wigglepuppy

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 08:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have no idea what a "youth pastor" is...being an atheist, I really don't care to know...but I assume it's some kind of morality police for kids - I think Jason's really sweet, in a Flanders way and he would keep those naughty Christian kiddies in line. Or else they'll burn in hell. Or something.

Moderator

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 08:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
NOTE:
This thread was removed before because it turned into a giant Jason-bash area that was beyond our ability to moderate. This one will disappear, too, if the same thing occurs. Please keep the discussion on topic and civilized. Thanks.
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Boberry

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 08:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay Mods -- in light of the fact that posts keep disappearing as fast as they arrive and as this seems to be too touchy of a subject, why don't you just go ahead and shut the thread down. It's too frustrating trying to communicate openly with people just to "refresh" and have the last five messages disappear.

Boberry

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 08:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Blossum -- you always make me laugh!

Bohawkins

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 08:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
How can you discuss the merits of Jason becoming a youth pastor without describing reasons why you would not wish to have him influencing your kids? He is a prissy Ned Flanders, and he has shown that lots of ways. Some readers may not be aware of why he would not be a good youth pastor. <mod- complaining about moderation is against board rules - K>

Fluff

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 09:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Nope. I wouldn't.

Boberry

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 09:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
well said Boh. I was hoping for a thread that would include both "positive" and "negative". That is what constitutes a discussion. I can always go to my best friend if I am looking for someone who thinks exactly as I do! :)

Maris

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 09:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Bohawkins, I think Jason has too many issues that he would not be a good pastor particularly for young boys in the 12-14 age group. This is someone who never masturbates per his own admission because he thinks it is wrong. If I had a young boy entering those very difficult years I would want him being counselled by someone who has a more realistic approach to things rather than put my child in a position where he might be told that what is natural for him is wrong. If I had a son I would not want him to grow up with all those hang-ups

he might be good with three and four year olds but definitely not preteens and teenagers.

Romans8_1

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 09:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think he would do great. I think many kids are /will be blessed to have him as a mentor.

Bkmac

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 09:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Absolutely!

Bohawkins

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 09:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason as a youth pastor takes a group of kids to the mall. He says, "Ok kids, let's duck into this Hallmark so we don't look at the manikins in their too sexy lingerie at Victoria's Secret."

Yes, Jason said that he "avoids the Victoria's Secret at the mall by ducking into the Hallmark store."

Is repression of sexual awareness what you want taught to your kids? I don't think so.

Bkmac

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 09:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Seems that unlike some posters Jason actually has a sense of humor. Go figure!

Bohawkins

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 09:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Marameko.. maybe you were unaware that Jason is viewable 24/7 on the live feeds, and some of us know more about Jason than even his friends or family do. I think that he has revealed plenty about himself to warrant an evaluation as to his merits as a youth pastor. He has lied, he has broken promises.

He has talked about masturbation.

He has shown us very much about who he is, far more than a church committee would find out in an interview.

Bkmac

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 09:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
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Romans8_1

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 09:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Here's my take ...

For those of use who are Christians, this is a valid question. For those who are not Christians, I don't even know why they would waste their time to bash here.

If what we see of Jason is true, then he is a great role model for Christians. He holds to our faiths as much as a normal person can. He takes them to a degree that many of us respect and wish we could have held to ourselves.

I didn't save myself for marriage. If I had to do it again, I would. I respect him very much for that and is the kind of person I want my son to see. To see him attacked because he wants to save himself is sad. He never says others should do it and never holds others to a standard that he does. He lives and let lives. He lives by example. That is the best kind of minister.

To say it is one thing, but to live it is another. So often we tell our youth to do this or that and then we don't ourselves. Some of us don't believe it as we even say it. But Jason appears to really believe it. Hey, if he passed Roddy's Christianity test, he can't be that bad. :)

A minister is to help a childs walk with God. As a parent who wants to raise my child in a Christian home and atmosphere, I have that right. I look for people like Jason to help me. I for one would proud to have Jason as my church as the youth minister.

Here's food for thought to other Christians .... How do you know Jason is a Christian .... look at how he is persecuted for his beliefs.

God Bless,
Steve

Bkmac

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 09:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
He lied in CONTEXT to the game. Big whoop. Talked about masturbation??? Even the BIBLE talks about masturbation! Have you ever actually stepped foot in a church bohawkins or is this all deluded fantasy?

Dilby

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 09:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, come on. How many of you would admit to masturbating knowing that there are people watching and listening to you 24/7? I wouldn't. Just wouldn't be prudent (said in the Dana Carvey Church Lady or Bush character voice).

Moderator

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 09:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, we tried... this thread is closed. Don't start another one like it.

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