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Pittypat

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 09:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hello all! First time poster here. Have not had time to read all 75 messages posted but wanted to interject what I hope is not a new thought. In regards to Danielle and her calling Roddy a devil.....I wonder if she refers to him this way because he so beautifully portrayed one of Lucifer's most astounding capabilities......"the art of temptation"! Each and everyone of those houseguests were tempted by him physically, mentally and emotionally. She, Danielle, noted many times that he could be quite mesmerizing with his charm. Is it possible then, looking at it from this point of view that she was not literally referring to him as the "devil" but merely stating what she believed to be obvious....his power to seduce was strong and his choice to use it in the confines of that house was a powerful and deadly tool and one to be reckoned with? Don't know for sure......just wondering!

Uhoh

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 09:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
avrey258 - all those comments you relayed about how roddy said chiara would have to be at his beck 'n call, etc - that was a session when he was joking! i remember that clearly -

i'm not a rod fan, but he wasn't saying that seriously.

Wcv63

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think I'm in a minority when I say that I found Roddy's attitudes, life philosphies and general practices within the house to be patronizing of women. I personally would be very uncomfortable in his presence simply because of his own overinflated ego and sense of superiority. I've never found it to be a "challenge" to thwart the over-superior at their own game. For one, they have such a distorted viewpoint that even when bested they are able to twist things to fit their own agenda.

Granted...my opinions are based strictly upon his "role" within the house. But to be able to convincingly carry off such an arrogant display I would think some of those qualities would be a part of his personality.

Goddess146

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 02:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wcv63, I agree with you. All you had to do was look into those reptilian eyes to know that there was something very wrong about that man.

Zeyna

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 06:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wcv, I do agree with you that Roddy was arrogant, and although I never saw him in a bad light as most around here, I was bothered a few times with his behaviour. Specifically, the way he spoke with Chiara at times, and the tone of the conversation he had with Jason in the HOH room.

What I find very interesting is how all the HGs found him so threatening (in terms of his "intellect") that nobody ever bothered to dispute anything he said. This was largley due to the game IMO, but I would like to think that there is a different side to Roddy that was never shown simply because nobody ever stood up to him. This probably boosted his ego even more in the game, but also frustrated him because I feel he was looking for a good argument once in a while and nobody caved in.

If Chiara did not apologize each time he brought something up, if she stood her ground, would he back down?? If Amy told him that she's not using the veto and he has no right to demand it, what would he say?? We just don't know. I do wish that someone played along just to see his reaction, but they were playing a game and nobody wanted to be his enemy. In fact, they empowered his ego more by telling him how smart he was, etc.

I'm not really sure about his views on women. The only negative I heard was the pager reference with Chiara, and that entire conversation sounded very sarcastic to me. He worried so much about "words being on record for eternity" and such, I can't believe that he seriously meant that. If he did, then I would say there are some major issues there.

Avery

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just read this entire thread. Shaking my head, I still find it incredible that people can write paragraph after paragraph in the exact same manner/tone that they are criticizing someone else for.

But, what I really wanted to say was this, ok, last time I checked I wasn't a jacka$s so if you call me one I am not allowed to be offended?

Gidget

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 09:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Apparently Middle Eastern extremist Muslim's hatred of America has been interpreted to mean Muslims hate Christians. Muslims do not hate Christians. In fact they respect all religions that they intrepret as believers of the one true God. The only significant theological difference between Islam and Christianity is they do not believe in the divinity of Jesus. But they do believe Jesus is a prophet of God. In fact the Koran tells a beautiful story of Mary and Joseph's trip to Bethlehem before Jesus' birth. And the setting is so Middle Eastern it seems like a very good depiction of the real story.

Middle Eastern Muslims hate American imperialism. They do not even hate Jews, who also worship the one true God. They only resent the fact that Jerusalem was taken away from them and given to the Jews.

Muslim fundamentalists are extreme in their religious views. Because most of their countries do not separate church and state, they seem to be able to impose their rules more stringently. But it is not illegal or immoral to be either a Jew or a Christian in a Muslim country.

Read the Koran. Talk to some Muslims. Perhaps then you will be less inclined to demonize them and realize their religion teaches many of the same things as Christianity and Judaism.

Watching2

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 12:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, am I the only one here who remembers a talk Roddy had with Danielle about him actually BELIEVING in God and he didn't want to go into it with everyone because he had a lot of questions regarding God, faith, etc.? He said something along the lines of - Would it to surprise you that I actually do believe in......... it's back there in the live feeds somewhere, I just don't know where! How many of us Christians question things regarding God/religion etc? I'd say a great deal if we're honest. Also, maybe he had some kind of problem with his Catholic upbringing..which being raised a Catholic, having walked away and then returned when my kids got older, I STILL have my faith, and I communicate with God in that tradition, however, I'm not so keen and question a lot of the dogma and most especially, the Catholic hierarchy. Maybe Roddy's just in his spiritual search? Nothing wrong with that in my book. I became a much stronger Christian when I chose it as my faith instead of just what I was raised with. :)

Jeeny98

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 01:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"Sticks and stones,
may break my bones..
but names shall never hurt me"

It's just a word, after all, and if you and those close to you know what you are, then a name someone calls you, especailly someone who doesn't really know you...shouldn't be that big of a deal.

It was kind of funny at first. Although I'm a Dani fan, I think she did go over board though. But, I understand too, it is a very stressful situation being on camera, locked in a house with strangers, while having to kick one out each week.

Scarlett

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 05:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
PittyPat

I agree with your assessment of the term "the devil". I have always thought that it was that context in which she initially used it. However, I think it started to change when she felt the need to demonize him <as she has with other guests> in order to feel ok about her bashing.

Seamonkey

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 09:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jeeny... as most people well know, words can indeed hurt deeply; far worse than physical attack in many cases.

Pittypat

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 01:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
To Scarlett: Thanks for that! I was beginning to feel a little foolish for voicing an opinion here. Seems this board has devolved down to it's simplest level! I agree that words hurt, that being called a name is not nice, that once called a name it tends to stick. I get all that, truly I do! I just felt like stepping outside the lines that have been drawn here.....Dani's constant references to "Lucifer" and the "one-third of the angels" that he took with him when he fell from grace.......couldn't overlook that! It made we wonder if she wasn't using it as a way to explain Roddy's power over the other guests in the house and how maybe it wasn't such an innocent act after all. Maybe I give too much credit, maybe Danielle did succumb to more base human behaviour but I, too, don't think it started that way!

Enough said.I will leave now. I know when to be quiet! Thanks again.

Goddess146

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 05:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
re: Roddy's "joke" about keeping close taps on Chiara.

Roddy made a "joke" about a lot of things he latter turned out to be deadly serious about. For example, there was that incident about equality between men and women over Chiara's flirting with Jason.

He also talked about how his previous girl friends had cheated on him. I do not think he was joking about wanting to keep close tabs on her. He may have been joking about the degree of surveillance but he not joking about the fact of the surveillance.

Zeyna

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 06:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If I'm thinking about the same incident that you're referring to, Roddy's point was that Chiara flirted with Jason, yet did not want Roddy anywhere near Amy. There's no argument really, either it's ok for both or not.

About keeping tabs on her, we'll never know for sure. Having someone cheat on you does not necessarily mean you'll keep surveillance on the next person.

Goddess146

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 06:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Zeyna, I am sure Roddy had a real and justified gripe with the Chiara/Jason thingy. The point I was making was that Roddy made the confrontation a joke on Chiara. He was not straight forward about his feelings.

Chance

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 10:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
you know, I think there, is a real connection between this years players & our the posters getting upset at other posters for bashing HGs.
For the most part, this group(HGs) have been particlarly mean spirited in their ignoring of Gerry, their reducing Lori (in their mind) to some nut job (my words),Lisa seeing Gerry as a pedophile.... Josh repeatedly calling Gerry a Nazi...........Tonya threatening Amy....Dani,Amy and Lisa being "afraid that gerry was sleeping in the storeroom." BTW he didn't sleep there ever. But the 3 gals acting like he was being somehow sinister and threatening and they might have needed protection etc.... Dani bashing Tonyas mothering skills and mocking her implants....Roddy, at least initially, saying people who were religious..had those beliefs were fool,Marcellas bashing AMY and GERRY and JOSH AND Chiara and Jason & Roddy etc etc etc
So my point is that installment 3 of BB has degenerated into some almost constant bash-o-rama...non stop, and prett mean on almost everyones part (tho to varying degrees.)
For us posters, most who have their own least fav HGs & most loved houseguests,we are kind of being drowned in a violent emotional storm of nasty, sad, chidish, unfair, ridiculous, paranoid, delusional, manipulative, judgemental remarks the HGs have constantly began, since day one.
Thus it make perfect sense to me thatBB members of TV Clubhouse are internalizing all this NEGATIVITY & it does NOT FEEL GOOD. Its oppressive, its sad. and it can become soooooo draining..I believe most have acted cruelly to a greater extent than any othr bb group has.
Their bashing has polarized tv clubhouse posters.
This game is not, and has not, in some time, been enjoyable except for the fun challenges like the body sponges suits etc and some of the more fun comps...afterwards all thats left is "lets talk about tv & movie....AND lets rehash/rebash all the evicted housemates yadayadayada
I am sayiny we are seeing almost everyone in their worst light due to so much time being
spent on these sad, NON uplifting, OVERLY INTENSE interactions.
then posters get drowned in their fave persons folder(usually turn out to be bashing ones)
******Doesn't make for pleasurable & calm sharing of opposite opinions.
SORRY IF I RAMBLED TO MUCH !

Chance

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 10:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry for the double post mods please feel free to deep six one