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Sobaditsgood

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 06:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
From some of the interviews with evicted HG's on the last tv show, it seems some of them are not very happy with Dani to say the least. Tonya seems outright hostile, for one. So if Dani is indeed in the final two, when the evicted HG's get their chance to speak before casting their vote for a winner, do you think one of them will give an equivalent of the infamous 'I-would-let-you-die-of-thirst' speech that Sue Hawk gave to Kelly (?) at the end of Survivor one year?

It's pretty obvious that the worm has turned where Dani's popularity is concerned. I am starting to wonder how harsh everyone will be at that final vote, will anyone manage to break through her steely facade as they deny her a vote? I'm thinking Roddy might try to humiliate her akin to the way he did with Amy during a nom speech; or maybe Marcellus will, trying to grab one last bit of the spotlight before this season is over and he goes back to being just another aging male model. It scares me a little to think about what Tonya might say, especially if she gets a little, uh, "chemically enhanced" beforehand, which is a behavior she apparently boasted of while in the house. It could get very very ugly. I will admit to enjoying a little bit of the drama these folks have provided, but not the meanspirited stuff. That does not entertain me, it makes me feel a little sick to my stomach to be honest (game or no game, they're still human beings)... and the closer it gets to the end the more I'm wondering if I want to watch the finale, as it seems more and more likely that all the animosity floating around might whip some of these people into a last-minute frenzy of meanness (fueled all the more by sour grapes) that is not enjoyable at all to witness.

Whit4you

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 06:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tonya - Lori - Marc all possiblities...

Csnog

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 06:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Marc. Hands down.

Maryk

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 06:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Marcellas and Tonya are definitely the prime candidates.

I think it will be more the 'Tammy Leitner' speech rather than a 'Sue Hawk' though.

Phillymom

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 06:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have to agree that it would be Marcellas. I can't see Lori doing it (I don't think she was there long enough to have any real emotional investment), or Roddy (he has faults, but bad-mouthing people wasn't one of them). Maybe Tonya, but I kind of doubt it. My money is on Marcellas.

Sobaditsgood

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 06:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You don't think Roddy will try to seize the moment? I can't imagine he won't try and take full advantage of his last chance to be heard on this show... in fact I'll bet he's already writing his speech! I am guessing that for all Roddy's talk about 'just enjoying the experience' inside it really really bothers him that Danielle beat him at his own game. And I have to say I am extremely tired of him taking every opportunity to throw in the bit about how 'My only strategy was not to lie.' To my way of thinking, *this* guy is the master martyr of this season, not any of those who took that role in a more obvious way (e.g. Marcellus, golden veto). Roddy's way is much more subtle, but (imho) much more insidious and distasteful.. he plays everything off like he is 'a good guy' but almost every other thing he says has an underlying (or overlying) tone of 'you should be grateful that I've treated you so well,' like he's doing someone a big favor. Seems to me the only way he'd be doing anyone a favor by being nice to them is if his REAL opinion is that he's superior. There's just something about him that reeks of 'I deign to let you share the same air I breathe, therefore you should be grateful. If you're not, you're obviously a bad person.'

Not meaning to bash Roddy, honest, just some impressions of how he came across to me... and (in keeping with this thread) why I think he will not pass up an opportunity to once again let everyone know just how sorry they should be that they did not recognize how "lucky" they were to be in his presence, and therefore reward him with 500K.

Mary, I don't know who Tammy Leitner is... that season of Survivor with Sue Hawk, Richard, Rudy, etc is the only one I watched even semi-regularly.

Gina8642

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 06:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gerry

He likes to go all out and make an impact.

Loppes

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 06:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It would be nice for Dani to get the Sue Hawk speech, 11 times, just to make sure she gets the message.
Lon

Kalihiwahine

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 06:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Are they allowed to give a speech or just ask a question?

Wendo

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 06:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it will be laughingly ironic if they all decide to bash her for the behavior they've all participated in. As well as employing by bashing her on the show. Hypocrites with sour grapes.

Zachsmom

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 06:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well..I don't know if anyone can repeat or even have a speech comparable to Sue's..it's a classic..

I just hope everyone says to her (those who don't vote for her..) "Nothing personal..just business"

Sobaditsgood

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 06:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh wow, Gina - I totally forgot about Gerry! Yep it wouldn't surprise me if he takes the chance to "send a message to his students" and make some sort of grand statement about the house being a microcosm of society, etc etc etc. On the other hand, he might be so disgusted (and I think disappointed) by what some of them said behind his back that he's lost any compulsion to actively take part. I know he said in some interview post-eviction that he didn't want Dani OR Jason to win and if he could abstain from voting he would. So maybe he'd say as little as possible, cast his vote, and be done with it in kind of a 'good riddance' way.

Loppes - wouldn't it be funny if the evicted HG's all decided to imitate Danielle's DR sessions... the first one would stand up and speak, then say '1 down, 7 to go' .. and then the next one wraps up their spiel with '2 down, 6 to go' etc. Now that would be scandalous!

Btw - won't only 8 votes count? I thought each of the final two get to "cancel" one vote, is that right?

Monalisa

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 06:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Marcellas definitely will. He is so good at telling everybody else what they need to be doing and what they need to change about themselves.

I agree with Sobad, Roddy is probably working on his speech, and has probably even nominated himself to be the spokesman of the group, you know, since he IS the writer.

I'm still holding out hope that Gerry will vote for Danielle. He spoke so much of how "it's the game." I'm thinking he may go with the best player (and recognize that it was Danielle) for his vote.

Tonya, does anybody really care what she has to say? She is probably more concerned about what she is going to wear.

I'm also thinking Josh may give a speech, but won't be a Susan Hawk directed at Dani.

Loppes

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 06:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sobad,
Yeah it would be her defining moment. After thinking about my idea, I thought maybe it would be better to actually have Sue Hawk appear on the other 11 evicted HGS behalf and just repeat at Dani 11 times.
Lon

Seamonkey

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 06:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It is difficult to predict who will be bitter and who won't and even then, who will say something pointed..

I think if Amy is her honest self, since she really looked up to Dani, that would be the most hard-hitting for Dani to hear.

Could be anyone, or no one.

Or, they may ask pointed questions.

Jagger

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 06:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think they have a very limited time to either give a speech or to ask a question, so I don;t expect anything to dramatic. If I remember last year didn't they have like a minute to ask questions or speak to the hgs.

Cricket

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 06:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Chiara - look how she went off on Josh to cover her own devilish deeds. She 'projects' her personality and faults on others and will go after Danielle.

Car54

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 07:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I would be willing to bet Roddy has spoken with most of the other evicted houseguests. When I saw his interview, it was clear that eviction did not mean "Game Over" for him.

Bernie

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 07:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that Marcellas, Tonya, and Roddy would have the most reason to do a Sue on Danielle. Marcellas felt very betrayed, and Roddy was very upset about the devil name-calling, while Tonya certainly has issues with the trashtalk. Others might not like how she played, but for those three at least, she made it personal.
(I still recall that Sue moment-mean but great drama!)

Jaysgal

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 07:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Without a doubt, it's Marcellas. Absolutely, positively, Marcellas. Of course I'm praying that Danielle doesn't even make it to the final two, to save Marcellas from all that agony. LOL! :D

Wendo

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 07:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Car54, yep, bingo about Roddy.

During his chat tonight someone asked if he had talked to Amy yet and he said he tried calling her, but hasn't been able to connect with her. He's hoping tomorrow.

Seems to me Roddy's very likely initiated all the contact to the other evicted HG's.

Goddess146

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 07:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was just in a chat with Roddy. He said he was not going to say anything specific about any particular HG. He was going to talk about "people" in general. Can you spell passive/agressive? LOL

C1mag

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 07:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It should be great! The second marcellus opens his mouth she's gonna be able to snag him. She doesn't have to sit there and allow it. I guess we will see if she really can go ghetto over a bunch of hypocrites calling her on trash talking. It's gonna be fun.

Foodbunny

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 07:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy will definately have a speech, but it's going to be more of a "I'm very disappointed in you and your behavior" than a hateful anything. That's how Roddy operates. Marcellas is the one most likely to pull a Sue.

Twiggyish

Friday, September 20, 2002 - 07:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy might, but she would be more polite. I think Marc wouldn't hesitate. He says it like it is.