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Archive through September 19, 2002
Eden | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 03:23 pm     Danielle has already said it is worth it to her. So that question has been answered. Most of the HGs, even those evicted unexpectedly, say that they value the experience. To make it to the final two is an accomplishment. $50,000 will be fine with Danielle. Great posts, Wendo, Pesto!! I agree completely! LOL I love this place! |
Letmeinthere | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 03:28 pm     I don't know if $50K or $100K (especially after taxes) is really worth leaving your life and family behind for three months. I think Dani said she already has the down payment for her home. They are building a house, right? Either way she'll get some $$ to take home. Its better than nothing. |
Keiffer | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 03:31 pm     Good one Letmeinther.... The stipend of $107 a day will leave her with around $9630 even for third place... which we know she is not getting because she is a lock for at least second. With 10k I am sure that you have enough cash to get into a house in most places in the country. You may have PMI, but you would be in a house. Unless there is some surgery needed that is. |
Pesto | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 04:42 pm     Tobor, Thanks for the tip. Impossible Missions sounds right up my alley and I'll look out for it. I also don't want to sound to glib and dismissive of people's disgust with Danni or any of the HGs. I apologize if my thoughts are taken this way. I have my own issues with the HGs too, specifically if someone takes an action that is not meant as gameplay (e.g., talking about Tonya's kids, playing with Amy's mind to boost one's ego, excessive bashing). Note: Even my examples can be argued as valid play but everyone has their own line as to what is valid and what is not. I think it is possible to be an honorable person in the house and at the same time be a down-right back-stabbing lying manipulator if it is in the context of the game. Indeed, if someone got through the entire BB process without lying (if that is possible), I would give them a standing ovation for such a feat although I wouldn't advise it as a stragegy. At the same time, I am thrilled with and applaud well-planned deceptions (e.g., Mars ouster, underground D/J alliance). Call me evil, but to me the ultimate Big Brother betrayal strategy would be to enter the house as a completely different character, hidden from everyone including the BB producers, and live for 3 months as someone else, and then pull a Kaiser Sose in the finals...maybe even a Tootsie But I digress... In effect, in my posts I am reacting to what I perceive as others' overreaction to Danni's excellent gameplay. Her behavior (not gameplay)to me is nowhere near perfect, but also not appreciably worse than the others in the house (JMHO). |
2addicted | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 05:15 pm     I just read through all the posts and I am amazed that nobody mentioned one of Dani's biggest perks- a 3 month "vacation." We know that Dani became a mom at 16, and that she never had the carefree highschool or college years many of us were lucky enough to experience. For me (and I suspect for others)college was an idyllic time where I was able to taste adult freedom without the weight of adult responsibility. (And I didn't goof off-- I worked really hard and carried a part-time job) Dani never knew that. She became an adult "prematurely." In addition, she has mentioned on several occasions that she lives much better in the BB house than in her *real* life. The other day, when the Sushi arrived, Dani wistfully said that she would miss the house intensely when she has to leave it. I don't think that makes her a bad mother or wife, or a selfish person. The above might sound like I am a Dani fan. I'm not!! I hated the way that she trashed Gerry, and felt that she stabbed Marc in the back. I would much rather that J, A or L won this game than Dani. IMO, Dani's best act in the house has been her loyalty to Jason (I hope that's sincere!) and if she sticks with that, I think she knows that the most she can win is 50K. Would it be worth it to her? I'm sure of it. The cell phone competition was revealing in sooo many ways! 5K is a lot of money to Dani. (She was the only one who never heard a higher offer) If she wins it (and I think the odds are high) I believe she will go home happy. |
Hohoho | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 06:34 pm     Just a belated "bravo" to Pesto for a post that beautifully puts into words why I'm am a huge Danielle fan. What a brilliant game she is playing! Hohoho |
Joker11962 | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 06:42 pm     Is 50k worth it to Danielle? You bet it is. She stated that she is not in the house for fame (or notoriety). She is in the house to win $$$! Yes, she has lied, cheated, turned her back on people,and spoken badly of other houseguests. Big deal.Get over it. That is they way the cookie crumbles. Anyone who says that they have never spoken badly of another is either a saint or a hypocrite! Go Dani and Jason! |
Llkoolaid | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 07:06 pm     I hope it is Jason and Dani at the end. They have played the best game. Roddy was a great player too, and most everyone hated him. As much as I want to see Jason win I think Dani deserves it more. They were a team , kind of like good cop, bad cop. I think Dani stuck her neck out for Jason a lot in keeping him off the block. I think Dani was the brains behind the team. They pulled the wool over everyones eyes and if one of them wins hoh they will have gone all the way. The only thing that I don't like about this BB is that more hgs were not playing like Danielle, Jason and Roddy. This lovey dovey stuff now is boring. As much as I want Dani and Jason for the final 2, a little evil part of me would like to see Lisa win the final hoh to see if anything interesting will happen. Does Dani think it is worth it. YES |
Cindyluvsroddy | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 07:40 pm     2nd place and $50,000 is much better than 3rd place and $0.00 .. so, the answer to the question is yes ... however, Dani will have to live with all those nasty little remarks she has made about other HG's ... remarks that didnt help her as a player - but, hurt her as a person if only she kept her mouth shut!!! i would be rooting for her ... but, she didnt and she has shown her true colors |
Maris | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 07:43 pm     I think she will be very disappointed if she only gets the $50,000 because she believes she is the best player in the house and believes she is the one deserving of the big money. I just hope that all the evicted HGs just say to her "danni its bidness" |
Loppes | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 07:50 pm     Maris, I look at in the way of not Dani winning, but in fact Dani losing 450,000. Lon |
Tobor7 | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 07:53 pm     Pesto-- Rudy from Survivor one was the host! |
Thefunnyfarm | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 08:02 pm     I think Dani is going to have a serious integrity problem when she gets back home. I doubt her co-workers will trust her, or that people will look at her the same. She talked about how she makes fun of clients while she is on the phone with them, and never changes the tone of her voice and makes faces constantly. Also how she "butters" people up in the office, flatters them, to get more work out of them, etc. When they put all these things together with how she made fun of the other people on the show ... I think her leadership abilities have gone down the drain. She keeps saying she has no regrets, wouldn't change things, continues to bash and make fun of Amy behind her back, that she doesn't care what anyone thinks or says and would do it all again. I don't think she will have a warm reception when she gets out - so I hope it's worth it to her. I was pulling for her for a long time to win - until she became such a personal attacker. I wanted Roddy out because I felt he was messing with people's minds, and I think Dani is doing the same. She smiles sweetly to Amy's face, tells her she loves her then is rude and crude behind her back. I don't think people will trust her any more in her real life, and I can understand why. Now she spends her days bragging on her accomplishments and how she took them out one by one, and is still lying about how she stabbed Marcellas in the back about being safe in the house. She has lost my respect, gamewise and personally. I'm hoping for 3rd. place for her, but afraid I'm going to be disappointed. I wouldn't want her for a friend. |
Tobor7 | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 08:12 pm     Farm--- Hmmm... Remember, her word is "gold." You really think she will have to qualify that with other things once she gets back to the office? Maybe she will have to say "I give you my word" and "I'll shake on it." |
Muse | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 08:14 pm     I disagree. Not that many people watch BB, and many of those who do are just casual viewers. While her co-workers may be regular viewers simply because they know someone on the show, I don't think that her behavior on the show will really hurt her in the workplace. They probably think it's "cool" to know someone on TV. They'll also probably miss a lot of the details that Danielle has mentioned about work - I mean, you have to follow the show pretty darn closely to know about stories that Danielle told about clients and co-workers. Even if they did catch some of them, there's a good chance that they either knew about them already (I'm sure several people have seen her make faces while on the phone, for example), or that they'll figure it doesn't really have much to do with them personally (a client might assume that she's making faces at certain other clients, not themselves - whether that's the case or not). And although she's been pretty manipulative and has lied on the show, I don't think people from her real life will really hold it against her. It's just a game, after all. There's been some pretty devious and nasty reality show contestants, and I haven't heard anything about them being fired or having to quit because of their behavior on the show. *Choosing* to quit to pursue showbiz opportunities, maybe. But that's about it. If Danielle has a problem with her job, I think it will be more like Eric's problem. Taking a leave of absence for three months is a big deal, especially if your workload is not easily covered by other employees. Danielle couldn't really explain why she was leaving, so I would imagine there's a good chance that they had to replace her while she's been gone. |
Loppes | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 08:18 pm     Thefunnyfarm, I agree with everything you say. She also put down her husband's workplace too. Its not a good thing to do. As far as her job, it seems she was fired, and doesn't have a job when she goes home. Lon |
Realityshowfan | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 08:19 pm     Joker11962, great post! I think she has done a brillant job! She is honest in the DR. She tells us what she is doing. You can NOT like the way she is playing all you want but the fact is she is playing....and quite well! |
Thefunnyfarm | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 08:43 pm     If I remember correctly, it is a small office of under 30. So I "assume" they would keep tabs closely on the game, perhaps not. She also did say she only has one friend, I think that is a co-worker also. You're right, they would need to follow the game to be aware of these things, or read the boards. I still think it will be a problem for her, because I think she has this same determination in life. I had respected that and in the game up to the point it became so personal at the expense of others. Thanks Tobor for the reminder about the word being golden, how could I have forgotten. Guess it was fool's gold she gave to a few of them. Same way with all her comments this week about playing the game with "trust, compassion, integrity and her heart" and that she hasn't talked bad about anybody. I agree it is just a show, but it bothers me how this will impact some so deeply on a personal level. |
Wendo | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 09:46 pm     Maris said, "I think she will be very disappointed if she only gets the $50,000 because she believes she is the best player in the house and believes she is the one deserving of the big money." Actually, I don't think she believes she's the best player. After her conversation with Jason today in the kitchen, I think she believes that Jason has been the best player. As she said, he's played the game with out all the other crap that she's pulled. And, I think she would be fine with Jason winning the whole ball of wax. I know people think she's not REALLY loyal to Jason, but nothings happened all these weeks to show otherwise. She KNOWS she's not going to win, she said it today. And, if she doesn't win, she's happy that Jason and Lisa will. |
Onlyhuman | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 10:00 pm     See, here's what I don't get... I hate it that these people get to the end and then say I want so and so to win the money. It's crazy, because they've played the game hard, justifying all along with the "it's just a game" and they want the money. I listened to Jason & Danielle say they wanted the other person to win and then to Jason say that if Lisa wins HOH he wants her to take Danielle with her...it just baffles me. I understand their bond, and I see how they like each other, but since that didn't matter every other time they turned on someone they professed to "love", why should it matter now? I'm not saying either should undermine or try to sabotage their alliance, just that they should play for THEMSELVES, not each other! If you are going to play the game this hard and this cutthroat, then play it all the way to the end! |
Wendo | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:50 pm     Onlyhuman, perhaps they're human afterall. LOL! And, they have a heart. I think it's really easy for us armchair BB watchers to say, play hard, play for yourself. But they're in there, living with these people. And, in a weird and boggle the mind sense, they love each other. I remember last year the BB2 HG's said the game was SO mentally and emotionally challenging. Perhaps that's what it is. The want to win vs. the want to not hurt their competitors who've become their friends. Dunno. BB is such a strange (and great) game show. |
Annitar | Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:57 pm     Just wondering HOW MANY DANI BASHING threads we really need here????? Mods, I don't know couldn't this have been covered in that oh so nice "Opinion of Danielle" thread??? *rolling eyes* |
Nemesis | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 06:22 am     Tabor and Pesto, The name of the show was "Combat Missions", It was an Armed Forces Combat Missions type show. 4 teams, Alpha, Bravo, Delta, Charley, You only had to vote someone off if you lost your mission. Up to a certain point, you got to choose someone to fill the spot. It was easy to choose someone to "vote" off, because usually the person who messed up the "mission" would volunteer to get the boot!.. If you like Army stuff, then this is the reality show for you! |
Mrdisguise | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 08:03 am     QUOTE: "Sure, $50,000 is quite a nice bit of money for three months of work. But is it worth the damage to your reputation and life?" Danielle does not look so bad on tv. Early on- I called Danielle "a typical bytch" because she makes fun of people. But I can see that Danielle also has a good side- like the way she makes people laugh or boosts their spirits. Nicole of BB2 looked worst on tv than Danielle. And Nicole looks happy now and she even got a radio DJ job. I don't think that show will do much damage to Danielle because she is the same in the real world so her co-workers probably already know that she is aggressive, gossipy, and likes to make fun of people. And strangers at the grocery store would be too scared to say something negative to her. Her kids are probably a bit embarrassed by her but it's no big deal. |
Lovelynessa | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 08:11 am     This is a game. If she wins $50,000 that's $50,000 more than she had when she came into the house. As for her coworkers and whoever else on the outisde not trustinf her etc. I say this- IT'S A GAME. Anyone who can't see past that it not worth caring about in the first place. Really I think to much emphasis is being put on all of the houseguest "integrity, morals, trustowrhtiness" and such. It's a game on television. I don't think that any of them should give a rats a** what any of us have to think about them or the way the raise their children, conduct themselves at work, or act with family or friends. |
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