Archive through September 19, 2002
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Archive through September 19, 2002
Monalisa | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:46 am     Dag, Thanks for the compliment. Of course I know Dani has faults. She is human. What I don't understand is how everything she has done is treated as vile and reprehensible....especially when all the others have done the same thing. I think the only mistake she has made in the game is talking bad about people....not that that makes her the devil, but forgetting that those people are the ones who will decide the victor. I think Jason will win because of this reason. But, I don't think Danielle's actions have warranted the comments made about her. Does anybody REALLY believe that the way she acts is the blame for Columbine? I do think that the hg's....ALL hg's (except for Lori) were brutal about Gerry. That was uncalled for. But now I see the same treatment of Danielle by viewers.....who supposedly are so offended by this behavior. |
Lynnann | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:49 am     C1- Why do you think Dani is so worried about her dr tapes? She has expressed this more than once to Jay and said they were really bad? |
Wendo | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:52 am     Cute, oh, ok. LOL! |
Sanfranjoshfan | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:54 am     Sorry C1mag - I know the context of Dani's "roostersucker" remarks and I do not believe it was justified....you can explain to me why YOU interpret them as justifiable a hundred more times, but the fact is, in MY life those hateful names and remarks were not justified at all....and they were absolutely unnacceptable. You proved my point....we saw the exact same thing. We both know the context and the time the remarks were made. You interpret them as justifiable. I do not......I see them as both UNjustified and UNacceptable. There really ARE other valid interpretations of actions than your own. I do believe that your observations may make sense and may be appropriate for YOU....but apparently my threshold and my boundary of what constitutes "justifiable behavior" is different than yours. That does not make mine "wrong"...it simply makes them MINE. |
Lynnann | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:57 am     Mona- I simply believe Dani is a bully. Just like a school yard bully and I will always believe that. |
Monalisa | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 01:03 am     Lynn, I don't view her as a bully. I don't know when she has threatened anybody or has forced anybody to do anything. One thing Dani is criticized for is talking about people behind their backs....bullies usually confront people to their face. But, I guess it depends on your definition of a bully. I do agree that she has been the mastermind in this game. The final four are there b/c of Danielle. And, unless Lisa wins HOH, the final 2 will be Jason and Danielle. I call it strategy. |
Lynnann | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 01:16 am     Mona- I don't know. This game has worn me out and now Survivor is starting tomorrow and I will go all wacky for how ever long it is on. I need my grown daughters to take me away from all this. I need a life. Oh sorry- a senior moment there. I just get a creepy feeling about Dani like I did Roddy, I think they recognized eachother in some way. |
C1mag | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 01:47 am     SanFran do you find justification in Roddys comments about Dani being a scumbag and a b@tch? Trust me I'm headed somewhere with that statement. It wasn't mentioned as a contest in words between Dani and Roddy. It's my best example of how I see your comments. Too my recollection I have never said your opinion is wrong but your willingness to form an opinion without explaining when and why it was said remains wrong on several issues concerning both Roddy and Dani and that it would be great if we were able to pull up cuts from those moments because then it would be about the moment and not just words taken possibly out of context and misinterpreted. |
C1mag | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:01 am     Yep sanfran sometimes I read your posts and all I can say is ... Huh? Where did he pull that one out of? You do a lot of under the table attack of posters in a subtle way. I am constantly shaking my head at your posts saying, " what did that dude just say?" He is responding to someone that didn't even suggest what he has said and in the process attempted to belittle their comments, and attempt to deify his position and all I keep asking for is referrence on that position. In the future maybe you could do less of that! It's just a suggestion... Either way it's cool. I've been told that as you get older you get more set in your ways and become quite unmoveable. Applying that lesson I think I understand why you throw things out there with a little twist of the knife. Does that remind you of.... Nevermind! |
Lynnann | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:03 am     C1- you never told me what your feelings were about Dani's dr concerns? |
C1mag | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:12 am     I think that Dani is the only one that is willing to admit she has been open and honest in that room. She didn't candy coat her comments. She vented. She knows that some will take it the wrong way but hopes that they realize her comments were based on the game going on within the house. I really don't know what she has said so I can't make a comment about it. I just like the fact that on TV when they show her she is being honest. She says she has lied, backstabbed and manipulated. I don't see how that could be heald against her. I don't recall a dr session that they have showed where she was trashing someone. Now what I mean by trashing is being hurtful. Not something silly but down right vicious and hurtful. I just don't recall seeing that. What have you heard her say in in dr sessions? |
Tobor7 | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:47 am     Wow, this was a hot thread tonight! I missed it. I wasn't going to add anything but this caught my eye... Sanfran said: "My point is that we ALL interpret the behavior that we see according to our own standards...some of us will see things in one light and others will see them in an entirely different light.....because we each have DIFFERENT life experiences and we view things differently. We measure people on our individual scales....not a collective one." All I have to say is: YES. YOU ARE CORRECT. |
Lynnann | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:04 am     C1- they really haven't shown too much dr but whatever went on in there, I get the idea that she is plenty worried as she told Jason it was really bad and that she was worried about it. She must be because she talks often about it on live feeds. |
Eden | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:31 am     lol... "You are correct.", not, I agree. Interesting. |
Thedunit | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 05:32 am     Like I have said many times before, IMO I think that the woman is disgusting. If you notice her personality has changed quite a bt since the beginning. At that time she was very concerned about being articulate in conversation. Now and especially in the DR she really let's the; as she puts it "Ghetto" come out. She started to as she says "play the game" as I put it; started to erect her pedestal which now is pretty high. NOW is the time that she gets knocked off it. SOOOOO close to the money and wind up with nothing! I gotta say that her strutting around that house is getting old. She is NOT responsible for anyone being in that house but maybe herself. Each one has played the game and each one has played it different than others. Let's take Amy, she would not be there IF the producers of the show did NOT decide to give another shot to the four of them. And Dani is NOT the only person that voted to bring her back. I'm sorry people but I just don't plain like the woman. I personally am hoping that Jason evicts Amy and that Lisa wins HOH. Then I want to see her squirm for awhile and then have Lisa drop the hammer and drop it hard!!!! |
Reeniehere | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 05:48 am     Sanfran said: "My point is that we ALL interpret the behavior that we see according to our own standards...some of us will see things in one light and others will see them in an entirely different light.....because we each have DIFFERENT life experiences and we view things differently. We measure people on our individual scales....not a collective one." I also think that's correct Sanfran. But--sometimes--our "view" of another person reveals more about ourselves than it presents an accurate picture of the other. |
Bcandscott | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 06:54 am     Watching the show last night, I was reminded of a moment I saw on the live feeds that pretty much summed up my biggest problem with Danielle. She was doing another of her (rolling eyes) OH SO FUNNY impersonations where she exaggerates the behavior of someone, carries on a lot and in general looks FOOLISH to everyone but herself and anyone around who happens to be really really drunk. It was the night Jason and Amy were on the cruise, the night where Amy had the NERVE to win another competition and get a prize that Danielle was SURE she should have won, but just didn't, probably because Amy was thoughtless and selfish and overtly sexual, that scheming little whiner. So she is doing this routine and goes over and leans over the food island throwing her butt up in the air, in HER impression of Amy.... ....and Lisa says "Oh, that's my position, that's what I do." ....and Dani says "...but NOT like AMY!" It was amazing. Lisa tells her flat out, I DO THAT, but Danielle is on a roll and well, LISA didn't win the cruise, so it's MORE VULGAR when Amy does it. I guess at this point, I don't want Danielle to win any money because it would deprive her of so much fun imitating and carrying on about the people who do. |
Mizinvancouver | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 06:59 am     I didn't like how last weeks nominations went. She was really rude to Amy. She's all sweet and saying she loves Lisa with moo-moo eyes then turns to Amy with a glare and says,"Why break tradition??" I mean she could have said,"I love you too Amy, but why break tradition?!" With a smile on her face in a friendly manner. I think most have been so mean to Amy and if the roles were reversed I don't think they would handle it as gracefully as Amy did. And her imitation of Amy on last nights show, why is Amy considered trashy to Danielle? Lisa/Chiara were way more trashy than her in my opinion. I think she's just jealous of Amy. |
Itsallgood | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 07:14 am     I'm just glad they finally showed that about Danielle. Just proves she can't stop trashing other people. And she knows by now that the camera is on her 24/7 and we with live feeds see it 24/7, so why on earth would she do that???? It's beyond me! |
Lisad | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 07:35 am     Thedunit's post is exactly what I have a problem with. It's a bit harsh. There sure are some nasty things said on these boards. Being here is giving me that 'worn out' feeling I got during the big week or 2 of bashing that took place while Marci was still in the house. "That woman is disgusting". Is that necessary verbage? Don't know if it's possible, but I for one would like to see our final days played out here a bit more kindly. It's one thing to say one doesn't like a houseguest and here's why - but it seems to jump a zillion levels of meanness here. I think it's a darned shame. Lynnann - About Dani's comments that her DR sessions aren't 'good'. The DR sessions I've seen on TV seem to be pretty clean to me. Just my take on them. But you might consider that Dani is bluffing to the other HGs that they are "bad". Even Lisa said this to Marci. So they may not be bad - she might be bluffing to lead the others to BELIEVE they are bad. That might be what's going on here. |
Itsallgood | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 07:46 am     Lisad, this is the OPINION thread. If you see something you don't agree with just ignore it. It's not worth trying to defend what you stand for here. It's their OPINON, not yours. I learned that awhile back trying to defend what people were saying about AMY! Everyone is intitled to their OWN OPINON, good or bad, even tho we don't agree with it sometimes. ;-) JMH Opinon |
Lisad | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 07:53 am     Itsallgood - I agree with you. This is an opinion thread and I hate to see anything being censored, etc. My point is - that It's my personal wish we could just be a bit kinder, more polite to each other with our posts in our dislike of HGs - be it Dani, Amy, etc. I like hanging out here but I can see the board turning into an ugly situation even more than it is now. I'm just saying that I wish things didn't have to get so ugly here and we could be a bit more polite/respectful in how we bash. |
Gramma | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 07:54 am     I'm not going to pretend that I just went back and read all the posts that have been made to this thread since the last time I opened it, though I have read all that are still on this page. I have a question for all the posters that are expressing their negative opinions of Dani (mostly for expressing her negative opinions). I ask that you please be very honest with yourselves and imagine that : you're in your home, sitting at your computer, reading and posting in this thread. The doorbell rings. You get up and walk to your door and open it. On the other side is Julie Chen and Danielle. There's also a camera crew. Julie tells you that they're interviewing some fans of the BB3 show and wondered if you'd mind chatting with them for a moment. You hesitate (wishing you'd taken the time to get out of your jammies earlier and combed your hair), but then invite them in. The three of you sit down on your couch and Julie "introduces" you to Dani. Dani gives you one of her gleaming smiles and tells you it's so nice to meet someone who is a fan of the show. Now.. please be honest here.. How do you react to Dani to her face? Would you say the same things to her that you post here? When it's all over and they've gone, will you be calling friends or posting here about how you just got to meet Dani in person? Would you have any regrets for having posted hateful things about her? |
Twiggyish | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 07:58 am     Gramma, I'd have no hesitation expressing my opinion. (Can't you tell?) I'd be diplomatic, though. I don't totally dislike her, so my opinion wouldn't be that bad. |
Maris | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 07:58 am     To be honest with you I would tell Julie thank you but she would be better off interviewing someone who liked Danni and I would close my door. I would do the same with Marcellas and Gerry. Anyone else I would interview. The only hateful thing I have posted about Danni is quotes she said about others such as Tonya, Chiara and Roddy. If you chose to be a public persona as she has and you also chose to say hateful things about people then you should expect to get some of it back in return. I have no sympathy for Danni. As for her family members if they have any sense after reading one negative thing they should just stay away from these boards. |
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