Archive through September 20, 2002
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Archive through September 20, 2002
C1mag | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:48 am     It proves turnabout is fair play. Ya can't feel too bad for Lisa that she is getting screwed by Dani right now. Her quick cover up also proves that in her own eyes she knew they thought she was dedicated to them for a final 3. Otherwise she wouldn't have bene worried. For someone who supposedly wasn't comitted to it she sure jumped right back on it real fast. |
Wendo | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:49 am     But Meggie, she wasn't sure that Lisa was going to take her to the final two. We know, but Dani didn't. She's in there with limited information. By making the deal, she gets to the end. We might not think it's necesary since we see their DR's, but Dani isn't. You have to put yourself in the players shoes and with the information they have. And, I know this is sücky for Jason, but MAN, he should've held on to that key for longer than 45 minutes. LOL! |
Meggieprice | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:49 am     BTW Onlyhuman, LOL that you were thinking about this in bed and got up to post! |
Crossfire | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:51 am     Lisa was not planning to screw Dani with Marc...she was trying to screw Jason. That does not make it OK for Dani to screw Lisa. They don't think of J/D as one person like we do. |
Wendo | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:51 am     Battlestar, well, Jason should've played better. He made the deal with Roddy a few weeks back for his self interests. If he doesn't do it now, well, again, that's his fault. Not Danielles. |
Beagle | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:52 am     I just got home from work and watched the show on tape. Without my going through this entire thread, can someone tell me who won the boat contest?
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Misslibra | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:53 am     Meggie that is one of the frustion I have with Danielle. And frustion is a great word to use for me when describing Danielle. Either way Danielle is in the final two why lie and why keep back stabbing folks who she consider her friend it isn't necessary. And her fakeness showed when she was just talking to Lisa. She is making Roddy look like a angel now. I wanted to add planning is one thing and putting your plans into action is another. We will never know how that would of work out between Lisa and Marcel. How you can hold something against Lisa that never went into effect makes no sense. Well I guess I vented enough going to bed now I'm sure I'll be back tomorrow to vent some more. It's so nice when we can agree to disagree in a respectful manner. Have a good night all! |
Annitar | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:53 am     I agree Wendo! Jason wasn't the poor soul sitting in a rubber boat, in urine, in the rain, with purple lips for FOUR hours. He, not Dani sealed his own fate! |
Wendo | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:53 am     Cross, yes, Lisa WAS planning on screwing Dani, and Jason. Mar said to Lisa, let's you and I be the final two. We'll get rid of Jason this week, Dani the next week. Lisa agreed. Both Mar and Lisa had every intention of being the final two, I listened to that conversation in the kitchen. |
Misslibra | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:54 am     Lisa won. WOO HOO!! GO LISA !! |
C1mag | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:55 am     Cross screwing over Jason is the same thing as screwing over Dani in this game. The agreement was for that particular three. It was screwing both of them over if she had went with Marc and went after Jason. |
Beagle | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:55 am     whooohooo, many thanks MissLibra! |
Meggieprice | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:55 am     Thanks for reminding me Wendo. Things seem so obvious to us....but Lisa really spelled it out tonight in the pool that she had envisioned her and Dani in the final two ever since she found out about Chia's vote in the E/L week. That was BEFORE anyone gave anyone their word tonight. That should have been enough to slip Danis hand off that key. But then I remember what physical stress Dani was under- I really think she was near hypothermia. |
Crossfire | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:56 am     I don't know...I have a feeling, and it's just a feeling, that once Jason was gone, she would have slid up tighter with Dani than Marc. |
Wendo | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:57 am     Miss, just because the plan with Mar and Lisa didn't come to fruition, doesn't mean that the intentent didn't exist. They planned on going to the final two together, booting Jason and Danielle. No big deal. As to screwing a friend. They've known each other for what, two and a half months? They're there to win some money. And, they can still be friends while still playing the game with deceit. They're not mutually exclusive. |
C1mag | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:57 am     Ok this time I'm really headed out!! It's been hella fun again... Later! Dang glad we cleared this up |
Annitar | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:58 am     Yep I watched that convo myself too. Lisa had every intention of "scumbagging" the both of them. So, if she ends up getting "scumbagged" herself... well it's how the game works. Lisa knew this when she made the deal with Marce, so she should not feel too superior to Dani if it happens to her. She was willing to play the game however it took to make it to the final two. That is the same thing Dani is doing. |
Misslibra | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:58 am     Meggie that is all Dani have been talking about a endurance comp and how she could win any endurance comp if they gave her one. Sorry, didn't happen. Going to bed for real this time. |
Annitar | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 02:00 am     Night C1! It's been a blast as always! Lemme know if I need to "smack you around" concerning our girl Dani again! LOL!  |
Tobor7 | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 02:00 am     I can't believe that Jason does not say to Dani, "WHY WOULD YOU MAKE A DEAL WITH HER?!?! YOU PROTECTED YOURSELF AND SOLD ME OUT. I DIDN'T SELL YOU OUT." He is acting like she did him a favor! Is he afraid of her? Does he not understand how long it will take him to actually EARN 500K! Is he just so soft? And all that anger about the food comp... I guess he must feel so bad about screwing up earlier that he just can't say anything. Best he could say was, "If she asks you a question, answer it with a question." Also, he should have never left them alone. Hasn't he watched enough of these things? He should have sat quietly by the pool the entire time saying, "I'm sorry I let go, so I'm going to sit right here in solidarity." (Of course BB would call him into the DR to create the deal op for D & L.) |
C1mag | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 02:00 am     oops I'm still here... Just to respond too Miss... She didn't exactly lose the game. She handed it to someone but only after making sure she would take her to the finals... Who is the real winner in that scenario? Dani doesn't even have to win hoh I swear I'm going to bed now lol |
Onlyhuman | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 02:01 am     It may not matter in the grand scheme of things that Danielle is again lying to Lisa about her alliance with Jason, but I still wonder WHY they feel the need to keep it quiet. What does it matter? What purpose does it serve? If they win HOH, they take each other. If Lisa wins, she has to choose one of them. It's not like she can evict them both because she found out they have asecret alliance. Why risk losing the vote over a piece of what is now meaningless information. I wondered it last week, when the two of them held the power and it continues to amaze me that they think this is such a big deal. Why not just laughingly confess, bringing Lisa in on all the things they did, so, if by chance Lisa does get evicted, she doesn't feel like the world's greatest fool for ever trusting them?? Yes, Meggie, it is a sad indicator of my overinvolvement with this show! |
Battlestar | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 02:01 am     well whatever---the outcome of tonight's competion is Danielle will positively win some money, Jason will possibly win some money so if Danielle wins HOH she scumbags Lisa/ if Lisa wins HOH --Danielle scumbags Jason cause she went into an alliance that assures her a place in the final 2 |
Wendo | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 02:01 am     Meggie, I do understand what you're saying. And, sitting all nice and warm in front of our computers, it is easy for us to say, Dani, that deal wasn't necessary. But, we're not Dani and playing this game under the circumstances they're in. Yes, Lisa says she thought about always being in the finals with Dani. But, that's not an assurance for Dani. A deal is assurance. I'm not going to fault her for playing the game to get to the end. And, I think we have to remember, that this would've likely happened with whoever would've been the final three. Final deals get made, and other deals get broken. In the end, each HG's is playing for themself and themself only. If a HG's forgets this, it's on them. Not another HG. Dani, so far, seems to be the ONLY HG this year to remember that. |
Annitar | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 02:04 am     Okay on that once again excellent post by Wendo I'm outta here for the night too! It's been fun as always guys! Hope to see you guys back here for next phase of this HOH! Have a good night... eeek Morning folks!  |
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