Archive through September 13, 2002
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Archive through September 13, 2002
Gina8642 | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:22 am     Dani never told Lisa what was up (that Dani and Jason planned to oust Marcellas) for a very simple reason: Dani doesn't need Lisa anymore. Dani's use for Lisa is now over. It is now time for Lisa to be discarded. |
Poser | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:22 am     Dani has been glued to these people for a couple of months. It is only natural to be saddened by the exit of anyone. Of course she wanted him gone, for the sake of the game, but she was attached to him emotionally and was genuinely sad that he was gone. Remember, these guys have no TV, no radio and they can't get out. They have been doing nothing but personal interaction for months. They are stur-crazy. |
Cmore | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:26 am     Well maybe i am harsh too, but in the words of Dani..... One idiot down and one "she devil" to go..... Can't wait to see the look on her face when she gets that third place finish. |
Gina8642 | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:30 am     BTW - Although I didn't see these tears or sobs, I have no doubt they were real. I may not like Dani much, but I do think she is human or capable of human emotion. I do think she bonded with Marcellas and enjoyed his company. It bothered her to vote him out. So what? Another BTW - I still really, really, really don't want Dani to win (or come in second for that matter). |
Romans8_1 | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:30 am     I'm with the genuine crowd. I have never bought the other tears and am not a Danni fan, but I think this one was real. She's had an alliance from the start with him She talked him out of saving himself She really feels there was a deal and she evicted him She's playing a game and this was the first real sign of compassion I've seen from her. Even though the dropped him (hey guys it's a game and you'd do the same), she has moved up a few points in my book. |
Ellenkats | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:32 am     If Dani really was as contrived and manipulative as some here view her -- she deserves to win. I've rooted for her and even I credit her with less skills than some here.... |
Ladytex | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:33 am     Dang, there are some seriously judgemental people on this board. They have been together in the house for 60 or 70 something days straight. You do get attached. I think she really felt sorrow to see Marcellas go because of that. Just because she's playing the game, going towards her goal, doesn't mean that she doesn't have feelings. |
Tabbyking | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:33 am     i think she was genuinely a little upset that someone had to leave, but it was kind of 'funny' when she cried. lisa had that deep plunging blouse on and when dani cried against her chest, she had her hand between her face and the breasts. if i were truly just falling apart, i would never have thought to put my hand between my face and someone else's chest! so i think the hand may have been to hide the fact that she wasn't crying awfully hard. some people cry just because others are. maybe danielle got tears worked up because the entire group was full of anxiety and sadness....just a thought. she is not my favorite, but there are others to judge her later, so i won't really bash her. |
Guiltyviewer | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:35 am     I guess I just see things differently from many posters here. To me, Dani has played impressively, sticking to the strategy she outlined for us from the get-go. She intented to align herself with ONE other hg, she chose Jason because they shared similar spiritual beliefs, and every step she's taken has furthered that ultimate goal. She is fiercely loyal to Jason, even though he has been unfocused on the end game sometimes (NOT nominating Roddy when he was HOH, admitting himself that it might have allowed Roddy to win. That meant Dani wouldn't win, too, so Jason 'forgot' his allegiance to Dani in that due to his emotional attachment to Roddy. Dani sweated that out, and still stuck by Jason, understanding how he was torn about the whole issue. She did NOT break her alliance with him, ever.) I liken this GAME to other games where a certain amount of deception is going to be necessary, and the player(s) who are better at hood-winking their opponents and hiding their strategies WIN!!Like bluffing in a card game so you win the pot. Do I think Dani is without fault, absolutely not. None of them are, and neither are any past or future hgs. Not possible to play and win without being prepared to deceive. It is not the same as how one chooses to live OUTSIDE the house, because that is a different set of rules and expectations. Apples and oranges IMHO. |
Lulu | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:42 am     Dani's tears were fake IMO. I'm sure she did feel bad but I don't see her crying much over anything. Trying to express her real sorrow in obviously fake tears may hurt her in her goodbye messages cuz the evicted may assume one is as fake as the other. As far as anyone lying, that doesn't bother me. It's a game. I don't feel immoral when I try to bluff someone at poker. |
Lurknomore | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:51 am     Ok call me a softie but I think they were quite real. I think Dani came in with one goal...to win the 500k. I don't think she necessarily wanted to know or like any of these people. I think she would have preferred not to have lied but has justified doing so by saying she must do what it takes for the good of HER family. Ok great. But not being an inherently bad person, and I don't think she is, I think what she did ate at her conscious. I don't think she thought there would be any chance her plan would work. What moron wouldn't save himself and risk eviction??? Nuff on that. I also think she has no clue she won't get the cash at the end. I think she is thinking that the jury will think like they did last year. That a player could lie, and cheat and do what it takes and that will be respected to win. She has forgotton (or maybe never knew cause she never watched) that Will won not so much cause they loved him, but of how much they hated Nicole. |
Guiltyviewer | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:56 am     Lurk, great post. Thanks for expressing my thoughts so well (now I'd appreciate it if you'd get outta my head, thank you! ) |
Lurknomore | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:03 am     LOLOL heck no Guilty...it might be easier to live over there than here Mwuuahahahahaha  |
Lisad | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:03 am     Sure they were real tears. Come on guys! As soon as he said he wasn't going to use the GPOV & started crying - she felt bad for him. Did you see her face? I really don't know why people think she's inherently an evil/bad person just because she bashes other HGs. They've all done that - even Jason. |
Wiseolowl | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:06 am     I think the tears were genuine too. It could be a mixture of emotions. Agree with Lurknomore but add to this the fact they've been under stress of a live TV show for two hours - which would get me stressed even if their wasn't the drama involved in doing what they have to do- plus having to face an HOH challenge. The fact that it is a game for big stakes . They 've been doing this for 70 days . Their time clocks are mixed up and have all come off a week of their diet being distorted .It all adds up to a senario for genuine tears. |
Mrs_Taz | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:10 am     She is probably crying because she realized how much more money she could of had if she had stayed in the tree the longest with Marc since he stayed this long. She never referred to him as a friend like she did Chiara. Danielle tears are as phony as her previous attempts at HOH competitions. Maybe if she shed a few of these tears, because as a mother she misses her kids so much I would buy them. |
Guiltyviewer | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:21 am     Lurk, you're welcome to drop in any ole time, really---there's PLENTY of empty room! Just ask around |
Kendalia | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:23 am     I can't even listen to you people anymore! Your heartlessness to me sounds far worse than anything Danielle has done in this game. Geez! Get a grip! No matter what she has done in this GAME, the woman is human and I think it is horrible of so many of you to suggest that she doesn't have feelings or a heart. Just how many times has she talked about wanting the money for her FAMILY? It hasn't been "me, me, me" it's been "my family, my family, my kids, my family." And if her crying over her America's Choice video from her kids and the rest of her family isn't crying "because as a mother she misses her kids so much," I don't know what it is. I can't even believe this. Some of the comments on this thread make me sick and only make me root for Dani more. Shame on you. |
Breezy | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:34 am     I think that Danielle cried out of guilt. She told Marcellas that Amy was going home, implying that she was voting Amy out. Then Marcellas told Danielle not to use the Golden Veto on him if she won, because he thought he could win over Amy without it. Did you see the smirk on Dani's face? He played right into her manipulation, but his ego finally did him in. Did you see the look of shock when he saw the vote was tied, that Danielle had not voted for him afterall? It was tacky the way Dani manipulated..but Marcellas had it coming the way he treated Amy, and because of his overinflated ego. |
Mystery | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:45 am     Personally, I don't see much difference between "me, me, me" and "my family, my family, my kids, my family." |
Mrdisguise | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:53 am     "lisa had that deep plunging blouse on and when dani cried against her chest, she had her hand between her face and the breasts. if i were truly just falling apart, i would never have thought to put my hand between my face and someone else's chest!" funny. I think that Danielle might feel some guilt for voting out a fellow African-American. She is crying because of all the stress and tension from scheming and lying. |
Katlady53 | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:53 am     I think Danielle's tears were real, too. Even tho' she is always saying, "It's the game," I think she probably felt a bit guilty for the way she set Marcellas up. |
Tootseug | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:35 am     I think they were real too. C'mon people, Danielle, does NOT pull a "Nicole" in the DR and on goodbye speeches, crying puppy dog tears. Until tonight, have we ever really seen her tear up and get this emotional?? ....... "he's the devil" doesn't count as emotional! |
Foodbunny | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:46 am     And now the Dani fans are learning what it's like to be a Roddy fan. Remember, if the board doesn't like someone then they are an emotionless robot incapable of any feeling but EEEEEVIL! I don't like Danielle and I absolutely do NOT want her to win, but she probably was honestly upset. We've seen how that house reduces people to absolute emotional wrecks in the last couple of weeks before. |
Maryk | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:51 am     I couldn't agree with you more Foodbunny! (I think she was also crying because of a touch of guilt. Eventually she had to breakdown after all the lies, hate, and backstabbing she has done.) |
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