Jason: Danielle's Puppet Until The End! (or until she can get rid of him)
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John1971

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 06:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I use to like Jason a lot. The guy has no backbone. Though Danielle said she's got his back, I would be worried if I was him. All she cares about is the money. She told Marcellas bring him into the finally three but look what happened. I could see by the way Jason was acting on the show last night, he might be getting sick of Danielle.

Jason is going to be her pawn until then end until she can work either Lisa or Amy to get rid of him. She will throw the next HOH and let Jason get voted out, watch!

Ellenkats

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 06:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Jason has backbone, he just realizes winning depends on teamwork.

Bbnan

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 06:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
No. That won't happen. There is no reason for her to throw the next HOH. She is with Jason until the end and he is with her.

Marci messed up. He should have vetoed himself, and he should not have "threatened" Jason.

Lisa_Or_Dani

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Were we watching the same show John1971?? I never saw any hint that Jay was getting sick of Dani. If anything, they seem much closer. Is she not allowed to have an alliance? You people never cease to amaze me. She has been loyal to the ONE person she's always said she would be loyal to. You can't even give her credit for it. I watched the "King" slowly pick off members of his alliance to deflect attention from himself. I think alot of people are just trying to find something, anything to pick on about them ( J and D, especially her). I guess Dani deserves it, how dare she outplay, outwit, and outlast that KING of alpha white males? We all know who I'm talking about, I won't even mention His name. Let's just say He thought He was God

John1971

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wait a second! Danielle has threatened people indirectly. She said if she gets put up, it's all over. She has also stated if Jason goes, she's going to make life hard for the house. How is this different from what Marcellas did? I'm not a Marcellas fan but Danielle is just as evil as Roddy was. Danielle has EVERYONE do her dirty work more then Roddy did. I feel bad for Jason because I think she knows she can't beat him in the end. I think she will screw him (by having someone else do her dirty work as usual) and this way the blood is off of her hands.

Plus what I don't like is how Danielle and Gerry said they would never let anyone win who wasn't religious. That's just wrong.

I'm for Lisa all the way now.

Lovelynessa

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Danielle is as loyal to Jason as she has ever been. It showed last night when she evicted Marcellus. Give her some credit. She is sticking by her alliance to him, even though it is monumentally obvious that she has no chance of winning against him in the final two.

Lisa_Or_Dani

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The point is, she ALWAYS protected Jason. Any threatening she did was to protect her alliance. The "King" only protected himself. If you'd go back and watch the tapes, she said she wanted to take someone to the final 2 who she would NOT care about losing to. She has ALWAYS maintained that she would not care if she lost to Jason BUT she wanted control within the game so she can help make that happen. She's never once waivered from the fact that Jason is the only one she wouldn't mind losing to. I never heard the "King" do that. She is nothing like the "King". Her loyalty has always been to Jason 1st. The "King" couldn't wait to betray his underlings.

John1971

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I was talking about when Jason and Dani were in the kitchen and Jason told her it's her fault if Marcellas goes. He seemed irratated with her that she might change her mind.

They do look strong now but, Daniell isn't dumb. I think Jason will go next week if they don't win HOH. She knows she can't beat him

Bb3friend

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
No way! Danielle has been loyal to Jason from the very beginning and as recently as yesterday the other HG's didn't even realize how tight they are. I don't think she could live with herself if she, in any way, was resposible for Jason leaving. I'm really not a Dani fan but I feel she will take him with her to the end and accept the verdict whatever it may be. She chose to align with him and she will stick with her choice all the way.

Lisad

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It's amazing how some of us can watch the exact same show and get 2 totally different takes on the reality of it.

I dissagree with you John. :)

Niceguy

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Teamwork and Danielle do not compute. System crashing.

Lurknomore

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
OUCH lisaordani...the claw marks came right through the computer. Aside from the fact I totally disagree with you, please cite one time when any action of Jason's put Dani's in harms way. Thanks I'll wait for you to think of one. I had best go make a big pot o coffee, since one doesn't exist this make take awhile :)

And I agree without about being surprised we are watching the same show. I haven't seen Jason do ONE of the things you trashed him for...not one. He remained loyal to Roddy when it was in his best interests to nuke him. It could have cost him the game, but he kept his word. BTW the ONLY "KING" I saw in that game was Roddy but he is gone now. And so am I...I don't plan to jump in here much more as it seems to me some folks are just loooking to stir the pot and make a debate for debates sake. We'll see. Play nice kids.

Floresmama

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lurknomore when Jason didn't get rid of Roddy as was agreed he put Danie in harms way. She was Roddy's #1 target if he would have gotten HOH the following week. So I guess you better make that coffee the instant kind cause it didn't take me long.

Lovelynessa

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"Aside from the fact I totally disagree with you, please cite one time when any action of Jason's put Dani's in harms way."

Easy- When he was HOH he did not put up Roddy even though he knew that Roddy was after Danielle. He stated so in te Dr, he even said that he had probably given Roddy the game.

The fact that he remained loyal to Roddy even though is alliance is with Danielle says it all.

Gramma

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"It's amazing how some of us can watch the exact same show and get 2 totally different takes on the reality of it.
"

It's also amazing how some of us can read the exact same post and get 2 totally different takes on the reality of it"

I saw no claws on lisaordani. I saw a clear thinking head in action instead.

You DO realize that the "King" that was referred to was Roddy, right? (scratching head here)

It's an undisputable fact that Dani HAS come to bat for Jason each and every time it was needed. Amy wanting to put Jason up against Chiara to ensure a Chiara boot is the one that should still be pretty clear in memories.

When Jason was HOH and didn't nom. Roddy, he was definitely purtting Dani at risk. Had Roddy won the next HOH, he most definitely would have nominated Dani. Jason didn't do that to intentionally hurt Dani, but it was a risk for Dani none the less. Dani has nevr put jason at risk.

Gramma

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL.. looks like a few of us were typing the same thoughts at the same time. On a more careful re-read, I think I now realize that Lurknomore thought that the King LisaorDani referred to in her post was Jason. That's clear in her reply when she said that the only king she saw was Roddy... sorry I missed that on the first uptake.

No.. LisaorDani did mean Roddy when referring to his bing the king. Jason has/had no underlings. If nothing else, that should have been the clue that Roddy is the King that was being referred too.

Jaxgirl

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"I feel bad for Jason because I think she knows she can't beat him in the end. I think she will screw him (by having someone else do her dirty work as usual) and this way the blood is off of her hands."

While I am not really a Danielle fan, I do believe that the only alliance she feels (or has ever felt) any kind of loyalty to is with Jason. She has admitted this in the DR several times. When she lied last night to Marcellas (about voting to keep him in the house), she admitted it in the DR, stating she would do whatever she had to do to help protect Jason and their alliance. She then evicted Marcellas in order to keep Jason from becoming a certain target next week and she even won HOH when she had to, again to help keep Jason safe, because he couldn't compete himself.

Now, why would she do all of this only to turn around and evict him herself? That would look really bad and would probably cost her votes (the least of which would be Jason's) in the end. No, if she wanted to let Jason go, I think she would have kept Marcellas in the house, sat back, and let him and Lisa do the dirty work while keeping herself as clean as possible. That has been her strategy since day one. Dani seems to trust no one except Jason and she feels he is the only one who will not turn on her or put her up next week if he wins HOH. I don't think she is as convinced about Amy or Lisa. However..if she does decide to sacrifice Jason this week or next, I guess I will be rooting for Lisa all the way!!

JMO-

Ginger1218

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
No matter what, even if you agree that Dani has played a great game. If she allows Jason to get to the end with her - she loses. I personally do not want either of them to win. No special reason, I just don't like people using their Christianity or any religious beliefs to try to make themselves look better. At this point I truly want Lisa to win with Amy second.

Djgirl5235

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ginger - I have never seen Jason using his religion or Christianity to make himself look better - Dani, yes - Jason, no... Jason is who he is as a person due to his strong beliefs, but he has never touted (sp) those beliefs to the HG's in order to make himself look better to them. Jason has just been "Jason" in the house, and I have rooted for him from day 1 and will continue to do so...JMHO

Woodpecke®

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason has never made himself look better to others by using his belief in Christianity. He also has never used his virginity as an asset, either.

Sheila494

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i dont know if jason is sick of danis @ss but i sure know that lisa is..i could tell by the way she looks at her..both last week and this week.and she is right about dani.

Woodpecke®

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
How many men in America would like to be Jason right now? 3 atrractive woman, all totally different. Jason must be having the time of his life. They all like and respect him. Hope he wins the money.

Krossd

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
We will see just how much backbone Jason has when he votes between Amy and Lisa. It is clear that Amy will not take Jason to the final 2, she will take Dani. Dani gave Lisa her word (don't think she actually said her 'word' to Marc in all that) and she should take her (L) to the final 3 but I think she will want him to keep Amy because Amy will take her (D) over Jason should she win the next HOH. For Jason it would be smarter to take Lisa.

(Lisa is toast if she doesn't win HOH however, the D - J alliance is not going to be broken)

Sheila494

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
speaking of attractive..i never knew until lastnight just how beautiful lisa is..she is one lovely woman.

Lisa_Or_Dani

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 11:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lurk,
The "King" I was referring to was Roddy. Remember him? He was willing to sacrifice Chiara, Lisa, Eric, Josh, etc... Not to be mean but, please re-read my post. I thought it was obvious I was speaking of RODDY. Roddy was the only person we called the "King" on this board. He is the only one who had "underlings". Please read c-a-r-e-f-u-l-l-y.


Thanks Floresmama! I wasn't talking about Jason, tho. I was angry when Jason did that.

Auntkk

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 11:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I got really annoyed when Julie said, "Jason, cast your vote NOW", and Jason began to babble. I would like him for once to have just said something like, "I vote to evict Marcellas" without any of the hulabaloo. Sometimes I can't stand it when the HG's start in with the "I love you all"s and the "it's a game"s. I know that if I went in to a house for 3 months without any of the luxuries I wanted, eating PB&J a great deal, and having cameras watch me take showers, I would be there for one thing: MONEY. Money to pay off my bills and maybe do something nice for my family. I wouldn't love everyone there and I wouldn't say I did. Sheesh. Rant off =)

Bigger

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 11:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Woodpeckr- just a question- How could Jason use his virginity to his advantage? I don't understand what you are talking about.

Azlen

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 11:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Why does everyone who thinks Dani is just playing to win think that Dani would evict Jason. Lisa is a much bigger threat to her because it would be much harder to beat Lisa than Jason in the final 2. If Dani were just playing and didn't hold any loyalty to Jason she should use him to get rid of Lisa this week, try to get rid of him next week and then go into the final 2 with Amy, who she probably has the best chance of beating.
I still think though that she is loyal to Jason and wants to go to the final 2 with him and will be content with second.

Sheila494

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 05:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
azien..i have to disagree i think dani will set up jasons eviction..that woman is all about the money just like she said lastnight her family is more important and im sure that applies to jason as well.

Pirate

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 05:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Dani's only chance (small though it is) to win is to keep her promise to Jason and take him to the end. The only thing she has going for her is that she has remained true to him. If Dani turns on Jason this late in the game there is no way she will win anyway. I have my doubts that Dani would even be able to win against Amy if Dani turned on Jason.

Pugholio

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 05:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Any jury with a right mind would not choose a liar who cackles about it on screen. Now is not the time to make friends, it's time to kick off the competition.