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TV ClubHouse: Archive: ARCHIVE TWO: Marce and Lisa in new alliance against Dani and Jason?: Archive through September 11, 2002

Sanfranjoshfan

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Looks like Marce just tried to make a deal with Lisa to save each other next week....they both want to get rid of Jason and they bothe seems to feel that Dani is closer to Jason than either of them...

Dunno if the deal was cemented or left open though...

Misslibra

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sanfran I missed that convo and came in at the ending of it what exactly did they say and who started the convo? I dont think anyone caught it in the LF's yet.

Crossfire

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Now that's more like it.

Some action. I was getting concerned we were going to coast to the end.

Kittykatt

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Omg i was just watching the feeds and I think so but Ii couldnt hear real well my kids where yelling? all I heard was marc asking lisa they wouldnt vote for each other. It would be great if they did or maybe lisa is just playing him and go tell dani I hope not1 Whys doesnt lisa tell marc to use the POV because he will be voted out if they DID make a deal?

Dagny

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I came in on the convo just as Dani was coming in the house. (darn it!) Marc. changed the subject quickly. (I guess Lisa isn't in on voting Marc out this week?)

Sanfranjoshfan

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually, I think if this deal works out, they are more in an alliance agaionst just JASON. They would each not nominate the other....if either Marce or Lisa get HOH tomorrow, they would nominate Dani and Jason and the other would vote to evict Jason.

Did anyone catch whether or not this deal was accepted by Lisa?

Will she consider it or use the info by taking it to Dani and Jason to team up against Marce?

Looks like whether or not Marce uses GPOV will be the one action that makes or breaks this game for everyone!

Lurknomore

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Almost true Sanfran...but remember there is the all important HoH. I'm crossing my fingers that Dani actually goes for one. The next HoH will be HUGE. Pity there isn't one more POV. That would be really interesting.

Sanfranjoshfan

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Marce had basically explained his plan in the convo when Dani came in and the subject was changed....then later, a bit later after the pledge of allegiance, Marce and Lisa were alone in the house for a moment. Lisa asked Marce about his deal with Dani....he said it was pretty general, nothing specific, but he pointed out that that if they do this plan (Lisa and Marce's tentative(?) deal not to nominate one another) that would insure them both in the final 3.

Lisa asked who Marce would want evicted and he said Jason and Lisa said "Good. That's what I'd do...I'm glad we're on the same page." (PP)

Then they just started cleaning again.

Btw, in the 1st part of this convo when Dani came in....it was Marce that started the conversation, not Lisa.

Misslibra

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope Lisa and Marcellas does form a alliance. I can't stand Marcellas a lot of the time but he is a pretty smart cookie as is Lisa for them both to realize that the alliance between Jason and Dani is more solid then anything they would ever have with her. It's time to break that little alliance up and Lisa and Marcel are the ones who can do it. I'm so glad Marcellas and Lisa had this little talk. It give me hope that maybe Lisa will make it to the end.

Sanfranjoshfan

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Depending on the competition, and assuming that Amy is gone when it takes place....there is a 2 out of 3 chance that either Marce or Lisa will get it....don't forget, Jason can't compete this week. So far, Marcellas has been pretty good in the comps. There is only a 1 in 3 chance that Dani will get it....and I do think the odds will be pretty even for all three. HOH is usually a memory type thing, right?

Niceguy

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope this works and Lisa sees this as her way to getting into the final two.

Battlestar

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
JASON WILL BE GONE NEXT WEEK!!!!!

Danielle will throw the HOH--as is her usual way---and Marcellas or Lisa will vote to oust Jason.

Danielle will cry crocidile tears--because she probably thinks Jason is the only one who could beat her in the final 2.

Misslibra

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sanfran thank's for that info, because I sure missed it. I'm glad your on the case. :)

Sanfranjoshfan

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know that Dani would necessarily want HOH this week. She probably knows that if Lisa wins HOH, that Marcellas would vote out Jason. She also knows that if Marce wins HOH, Lisa would vote out Jason.

This way, Dani gets to evict Jason through subtle campaigning rather than an act of direct, in-your-face double crossing/lying/word-breaking. (Remember the other day when she was making it a point to Lisa that it was stupid to bring the nicest guy to the finals like when Kim lost to Ethan, and when Colby lost to Tina in Survivor) Dani also knows that Marcellas already feels Jason is the bigger threat.

I think that is Dani's best case scenario....no Jason, Dani in the final 3, and she has a loophole to justify her covert betrayal of Jason.

Battlestar

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
---except everybody KNOWS she throws the HOH.

Jason will know that she betrayed him when it came down to the wire

Secretsmile

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
We only have Dani's word that she is actually throwing all the competitions. She doesn't know how many states there are, needed to practice the pledge and didn't want to sing the Star Spangled Banner, because she didn't know the words.

Krossd

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Isn't this just what DANI (really) wants? To get Jason out without having to vote against him?? So, is Marc working it for him and Dani in the end?

(I heard and posted what I could of that conv.)
I did not hear a confirmation of the deal. Marc proposed she think about it in the first 1/2 of the conv. (then the banner flew).... so it is likely they will talk again. I've been watching for private talk between Lisa and Jason... (Dani doesn't seem to leave them alone) didn't dream the stragegy (with Lisa) would come from Marc!

It was Marc who initiated this conv. (to reply to that). Lisa was doing the dishes when Marc came over... they were talking about how hard it is going to be to be up against Jason, he is so well liked. Lisa said she thinks the same thing with Dani, since she is 'the mom' and liked, etc. (Which tells us Lisa would like to see Dani leave before her. hmmmm)

Also, Lisa thinks that Dani is using reversed psychology when she is telling them she left really bad DR tapes. (Got an even bigger laugh that time.).

So Marc must really believe that Dani is going to vote to evict Amy (which is what I thought D/J/L changed to... it is so confusing... they haven't said anything about it since the nominations were decided.

Bernie

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank you sooo much for getting all that! I had to leave and babysit, and missed it, WOW! It's sort of a shame for Jason though, because they neither of them seem to know about Danielle and Jason's alliance, and it looks as though Danielle's recent sneak attacks on Jason to Marcellas and Lisa have taken root. Little do they know that M shouldn't have been angry at Jason but at both Jason AND Danielle, because it was a joint plan all along.. Danielle has pulled it off, getting rid of Jason without being the one to pull the trigger-she IS the best player! And I really hate to say that!

Beserkknight2

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This alliance was probably a suggestion (maybe
a subliminal one) by Dani. This way she gets
Marci and Lisa to do her dirty work, then she
and Marci boot Lisa. Job done.

C1mag

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Like I said last week... Dani's next target is Jason and she is relying on marc and lisa to do it without them actually being aware of it. Dani has no intention of being Colby and taking Jason to the finals unless he picks her. This weeks hoh is very important. If Amy stays then Jason and Dani will probably go to the finals. If Marc stays then it just may end up Marcellus and Lisa. The irony in that is the TV commercials we see about BB3. Every time they mention two finalists both Lisa and Marcellus are shown. For some reason I thougt that was odd. Anyway, things are looking pretty good.

Coyote

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Marc doesn't use the POV he is out of there. If he does use it then Jason will put up Lisa and Dani will vote against Lisa and Marc will vote against Amy and Jason will have to choose and he would probably choose to keep Amy. So I see it if he doesn't use it then Amy will stay and it will be Jason, Amy, Lisa, and Dani. I really think that he is not going to use it, he thinks that Dani and Lisa will vote out Amy, and if it were a tie, he thinks Jason would not evict him.

Oldflyer

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If, in fact, Lisa & Marc do NOW have a pact - won't Lisa tell Marc to use the GPOV?
(It is getting soooo hard to work!)

Janekat0629

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Finally someone that has the gumption and brains to go against Dani. Much as I dislike Marcellas, I have to give him some credit here.

I just hope they don't get rid of Jason - but Dani instead.

Janekat0629

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Marce and Lisa are in an alliance they had better keep Amy. Are they stupid or what?

Jaxgirl

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 04:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Beserkknight2 wrote
>>This alliance was probably a suggestion (maybe
a subliminal one) by Dani. This way she gets
Marci and Lisa to do her dirty work, then she
and Marci boot Lisa. Job done.<<

Oh boy, I REALLY hope it does not go down this way! If Amy goes tomorrow, then Jason next week and Lisa after him, leaving only Marcellas and Dani as the final 2, then IMO, this will officially become the WORST ending for a BB thus far.