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Mrdisguise

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason or Danielle deserve to win Big Brother 3.

Danielle brought DRAMA to the show. She is the Richard Hatch/Tina Wesson/Will Kirby of Big Brother 3.
The show would have been boring without Danielle.

Jason is like Ethan using the niceness strategy. People said that Jason is wimpy but he had the balls to vote out Marcellas to his face. A wimp would have voted out Amy. Jason voting out Marcellas was "scandalous"...hahahaha.

Big Brother Jury: please don't let Amy or Lisa win. Please consider Jason or Danielle.

Dallasbbfan

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason is the nice guy but Dani has played the game much better than him. I remember a couple of times people mentioned putting him up as a decoy and she was very vocal about not letting them do that so he may not be there if it weren't for her. I can't think of once when he has "saved" her. Can anyone else?

So, if the jury votes with their hearts, Jason will win. If they vote on who played best, it should be Dani. But that is my opinion (which I am very nervous about posting here)

Luvhubby

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jusat wanted to say I agree with you Mr and Dallas.

Itsallgood

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Between the 2....Jason all the way! I'm for Amy tho. :-)

Dallasbbfan....don't be nervous...we promise not to evict you for your opinions. ;-) If that was the case I'm sure I would of been evicted a long time ago. lol

Guiltyviewer

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Count me in with the Dani/Jason two-step! I applaud Dani's loyalty. Every single time she's chosen to be deceptive has only been to maintain the best circumstances to guard Jason and herself. She has never lost sight of the end game IMHO, and HAS managed to be compassionate. Remember how much everyone wanted Roddy to go when he was up against Chiara. She HAD the votes to evict him locked in. Only due to a last minute emotional tirade by Amy did Dani decide to switch gears, literally at the last moment, in order to respect Amy's feelings. That put herself at great risk, but it all worked out to agree with her game plan eventually. Then when Jason DIDN'T nominate Roddy as was agreed beforehand, she stood by Jason anyway despite being very nervous about his choice.

Dani has had the winning strategy all the way, and if the voting hgs can set aside their shock and emotions, they can see that she just followed her original plan. She 'deserves' the win if strictly from an appreciation for her gamesmanship, but I truly believe she wouldn't mind taking second place as long as it was Jason who got First. Just as she has always said to us in DRs from the beginning and throughout.

*getting off my soapbox, ready to duck...* :)

Gramma

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
No need to duck from me Guiltyviewer. That IS my hand coming at ya, but it's just on its way to pat you on the back for a post well done.

Guiltyviewer

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Whew! Thanks Gramma---I needed that! :)

Lovelynessa

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bottom line is Danielle would still be where she is now without Jason. Jason would be long gone without Danielle.

Floresmama

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow I can't believe I actually found a thread being posted in by people who are actually watching the same show I am.

I absolutely think that Danielle has played the game the best and has stayed true blue to her alliance with Jason. I only hope the jury will reward her for all her hard work. I really don't hold out much hope that they will but a girl can hope. Anyway I think Danielle is prepared to accept the 50K and be happy with it if the winner is her best buddy Jason.

Go Danie!!! Go Jason!!!

Floresmama

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Lovelynessa. Danielle has definitly worked hard and brought Jason right along with her.

Romans8_1

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If Danielle stays loyal to Jason, Jason might buy her a Harley. :)

Just kidding, I do think they might end up being life-long friends and they will both be greatly rewarded for it. If Jason wins, he might just help Danni get that new house of hers also (maybe a down payment or something). I don't think Jason is the kind of guy that forgets true loyalty. He just does't strike me that way.

Wiseolowl

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The tough cop good cop partnership has worked well for a long time. Neither should be given more credit - or blame than the other as to whether it ultimately works or not. If the crooks wind up liking the kindlier one better or not, it doesn't matter in the law enforcement world but here it probably does and that's just the way the cookie crumbles. It's a matter of perception .We've joked about Marci and Roddy saying that - they recognized it - and those who haven't will likely wind up in second place.

Guiltyviewer

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Wiseolowl---"perception IS everything" after all! :)

Gramma

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 09:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Speculating about the final Dani & Jason jury.

Jason knows how much he owes to Dani and we heard him tell Marc a few days ago that he (Jason) really would like to see Dani win.

Now, I fully expect (and am looking forward to) a knock-their-socks-off speech from Dani when addressing the jury.

I also think it's possible that, in his speech to the jury, Jason might allude to the fact that he wouldn't have made it that far without Dani's councilling, support and in some cases, game altering intervention. He might even go so far as to tell the Jury that he wants them to vote for Dani, that it was never about the money for him, not really, and that he'd prefer it if she won.

What would the jury do in such a case? I know it's a far-flung idea, but let's just say I wouldn't be amazed and shocked if I heard something like that from Jason. The kid really is that honorable a human being.

Floresmama

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 09:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Gramma I think that what you are suggesting is not beyond the realm of possibility. Danie and Jason are quite a team and I also agree that I think they will be life long friends.

Pesto

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Just posted this on another thread but probably belongs here:
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Some food for thought for all the "Dani/Jason til death do us part" posse (of which I am a part):

The one thing I am sure of is that:

DANI IS NO COLBY. [Mental note: great name for a new thread.]

Assuming Lisa gets the boot this week, and Dani wins the next HoH (2 big if's), Danni will have to think through the decision of who she should take to the final 2: Jason or Amy.

Dani has already stated: "[pp] I am here first and foremost for my family and I want/need the money." I think she will clearly pick the person who (she thinks) she has the best chance against to win the whole thing. I make no judgment yet whether this person is Jason or Amy, not withstanding the fact that many people on the board think that the best choice would be Amy.

On one hand she could bring Jason to the finals and say "I played this game first and foremost for the benefit of my family. From the beginning, I played this game well by choosing an alliance with Jason and I have stood by him from the beginning. I love you all and have not taken or done anything personal in voting because this is a game and that is how I played it. In my DR sessions I have been open and honest and I hope you can respect that. I love all of you and am looking forward to continuing our relationships on the outside. Inside this house, I feel I can say that I played the game well and strong and that I deserve to win. Thank you." (or something similar)

She could also pick Amy and say "I am first and foremost playing this game for my family. I love Jason and we were allied from the beginning, just as all of us tried to make alliances in playing this game to our advantage. This is a game and not
personal, but I have to choose the person I feel I have the best chance against in winning this game and that is Amy because she was not in the house as long as us, and she has done well already (hint hint the $10k). I feel I have played the game well and deserve to win. Regardless of what happens, I look forward to continuing our relationship on the outside, especially with you Jason. Thanks." [keeping Jason's vote. :)]

She will pick based on whatever she thinks her best argument is. Jason or no Jason...

I still think her best chance is with taking Jason to the finals...

Ashfett

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Alright... I don't LIKE Danielle. I really, really, REALLY hate the whole "devil" thing, and think it is petty, silly and hurtful. I wanna scream at her every time she (STILL!) mentions it.

But I must admit, as of last night, that she is playing this game damn well.

However, so is Jason. Hell, by picking her as his one true ally, he obviously made the smart choice.

Of those left, I LIKE Amy best, but feel Jason, Lisa and Dani all deserve to win more.

I would love if Lisa won actually, because she has played the game in such an odd, lone wolf, different allies here and there way.

But I guess I wouldn't be so upset anymore if Danielle won... even though I still would prefer any of the other final four more. Better her then Marc though I feel.

Gidget

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Not that I really care a whit but those who are saying Jason contributed nothing... he was HOH twice. That's 2 weeks Dani did not have to worry about. Had he not won and someone else had, Dani could be gone. So don't trivialize his contribution to this alliance.

Skeldragon

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Go Dani and Jason...I would absolutely love to see them in the final 2, they've been my favorites since the very beginning. I love their alliance, and I love how they are both playing the game, with each one taking a different role in their partnership, but keeping the end in mind the whole time.

I will admit that I feel sad or anxious when Dani is going overboard on the bashing, but then I try to imagine what it must be like for them...day after day stretching out with virtually no mental stimulation, nobody new to talk to and nothing new to talk about, and I've got to cut them all some slack. No way would I be able to be as nice as Jason the whole time!

I'm just impressed as hell with the two of them and how they have managed to stay together and protect each other the whole game without anyone finding out - and that's the part that impresses me the most. These two are both smart and deserving of the win.

Sheila494

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
NOT!

Fluff

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Impressed with Dani, not so much with Jason.

Muse

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope Jason wins it all. I think he's played a great game by finding a strong alliance partner, laying low in the beginning, befriending all of the HGs so that they didn't want to nominate him (until the Jason/Danielle alliance came to light, that is), making risky moves when it was to his and Danielle's advantage (winning HOH, voting out Eric), covering when he had to (smoothing things over with Roddy and Chiara in particular), being as honest as he felt he could be, not bashing the HGs (evicted or still in the house) behind their backs, etc. I disagree with those who say that Jason wouldn't be in the house if it wasn't for Danielle. If Danielle wasn't around, I think it's safe to say that Jason would be playing a totally different game. He probably would have formed a tigher alliance with someone like Marcellas, or maybe Roddy and Chiara. He wouldn't have put himself on the line like he did by nominating Marcellas or voting out Eric. And he's so likable and (seemingly) innocent that I think he could have gone far, with or without Danielle. Besides, he's done his fair share of covering her, too.

All that being said, I have to say that I'd also be okay with Danielle winning it. She's done some shady things (to pretty much everyone - even to Jason) and hasn't really taken a stand until now, but she's a great manipulator in the house. And although I know a lot of people don't like that, I think it's necessary to be a little underhanded in order to do well in the game. And hey - as a viewer, I like it. It's entertaining. :)

Obviously, whoever wins the game is the person who "deserves" it. They did what it took to win, even if luck was partially involved. I'm just hoping that the person is Jason or Danielle right now.

Sloopy

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
neither one...I want to see either Lisa or Amy 1 - 2

Sunrisedd

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am also for Danielle winning with Jason. She has kept her alliance and played it to win for her family. Last night's show was so exciting because Daniell and Jason would have been gone if Marcellus had stayed. Last night showed how hard it was for Danielle and Jason to play it to win. I cried for her because it took all she had to vote Marcellas out and it WAS NOT acting. But, it is a game and she had to remember her family, not strangers she met 3 months ago.

Alaginger

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am impressed with Dani. I am impressed with Jason. But, I am mostly impressed with Dani and Jason as a team. They watched each other's backs. They reported back and forth to each other. They strategized. Dani had to do a lot of lying, knowing that Jason is not too comfortable with that --- but Jason had to do some evicting. I think they really care about most of the other houseguests, but their loyalty all along has been to each other. I say BRAVO!!!
I still believe they will both be happy no matter which one of the two wins the 500K vs 50K, if they get that far. I do believe Dani has the best chance at final 2 through either Jason, Lisa, or Amy........from past commitments.