Is Lisa pandering to Dani?
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Tobor7

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 11:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
L just told D that jason is "getting to her"

and

Last night when they were discussing sex, L said that she fools around BUT NEVER let a guy **** in her. She was saving that for marriage. (huh?)
I had to notice this because I never got that impression when she was talking to Eric all night long. I don't think J was in the room, so I think if she was lying (which I think she was) then it had to be for D's ears.
Anyone else hear this last night? It was not on the LF's.
Whatcha think?

Fuddyduddy

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 11:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
On another site, a poster wrote that Lisa followed Dani inside and said J was getting on her nerves.....she didn't want to say anything, probably because she's PMSing, but after Dani pushed her on it, she and D started a small trash of how J was not handling the PB&J thing well and that some things he says are irritating.

I think the "fix" is in.......D had already planted the notion with M that it would be hard to beat J and I believe(not sure) that D had already said something to L also along these lines.

Krossd

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 11:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
the Jason getting to her tonight in NO way was a positive... and the other conversation you mention: I heard parts of, it started off to be them talking about someone else. (I could be in error on that tho, as it sure wasn't a very seriously toned converstaion, which made me think it wasn't what you are thinking abouve. I didn't take what she said to be related to Jason driving her nuts tonight - in fact they conflict.

Krossd

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 11:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, should like the hook. Question is... is Lisa really buying it, or will she continue to buy it?

Meggieprice

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 11:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It was Lisa that started talking negatively about Jason first tonight.

BTW Tobor7 I heard Lisa say the same thing about saving that aspect of sex for marriage quite a few weeks back during a girl talk session. So that isn't a new fabrication designed for strategy.

Not that she isn't strategizing!

Krossd

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 11:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Go Lisa!
(Maybe she really meant she wants a woman to win!)

I just can't imagine the house with Dani, Marcellus, and Amy! Please NO!

Krossd

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 11:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
deal Play Those Cards Close to the Chest LiLi!

Tobor7

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 12:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Meggie, I must have missed that session.
In that case, never mind.
Just looking for a conspiracy theory.

Toolhound

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 02:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If anyone in this house wants a chance at $500,000.00 they will have to get Jason out. Sounds like Lisa is paying attention to the game if Amy goes this week and Jason next Lisa can beat Dani or Marcellas for the big bucks.

Fabnsab

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 02:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, so why doesn't Dani and Mar realize that after Roddy, Lisa was the last of the original 6 left and she has the most supporters on the jury? Mar can want Jason out all he wants but he should be gunning for Lisa too. His only chance to win is against Dani and vice versa.

Cyn

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 02:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
and, don't forget how dani was really mad at jason last night when he told her she couldn't handle survivor.

it started with him talking about hugging a tree while camping and how tough it was. dani started on about how she was thinking about doing survivor also, but got called for BB. jay said, "boy, you couldn't handle survivor." dani got really mad at him for saying that there was something that she couldn't do. he tried to explain that it was mutual joking going on between them. and, tried to remind her how he was just teased by her and marcellas for the tree hugging story. danielle said, "please just don't talk to me for a moment." (or something like that).

and today's mini-gripe about jay from lisa (to me) was only lisa acting on dani's subtle cue.

Marcieb

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 05:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Tabor, I didn't hear the exchange but I think those comments are very strange coming from a girl who immediately said (when someone commented on don't condoms break all the time), "I've never had one break..." in a way that implied she'd been through hundreds.

Lisa may be a master chameleon and changes with whomever she's with. If so, she's come a long way with that strategy, no matter what she may or may not be delusional about.

Mollywood

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 05:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe Lisa is testing Dani's loyalty before she makes a final alliance. i see breaks from Dani with all the guests (except amy, who is the smartest of them i think) Pointing out that she has never won hoh...(she uses it as a "poor me" ploy, but they see thru that by now) and Lisa's comment to Marci, that Dani is using reverse psch and not really telling the truth about the diary room... that she doesnt really trash the hgs as she says she is..to trick the others left in the house to take her to the end, because people will hate her for dr..(.what dani doesnt know, is we hate her for a whole lot of reasons..that not being one of them) thinking she is fooling them into thinking they can beat her...im not a good player, but i was suprised at that speculation by Lisa, and was happy to see she really is playing the game.

Earthmother

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 06:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa has always said she wants a woman to win, that is no surprise. The only real allience she thought she was in other than the original 6-pack was the "girl allience." I think that's one of the reasons she was so mad at Chiara.

Kyline

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 06:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, how to say this delicately LOL. I didn't hear the conversation, but couldn't Lisa have been saying that she wouldn't have sex without a condom until she was married? That until then, the "stuff" would go in a condom, and not in her?

Yikes LOL.

Alaginger

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 06:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This is a very risky conversation for Lisa to have had with Dani right now, if Dani is still considering Jason "her boy". If Marcie uses the GPOV on himself (which I believe he will), Jason will be putting Lisa on the block next to Amy and all Dani has to do is tell Jason the target is now Lisa instead of Amy because Lisa is after him. I hope this isn't the case, because I still want D/J/L for the last three to duke it out for HOH.

Costacat

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 07:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Tobor, I'm not intending to bash you or anything here. But it seems to me as if you are picking apart everything that Lisa says or does. I feel as if you are, in effect, bashing her. I'm curious as to why you think it's necessary to open several threads about a perceived (by you) negativity in Lisa...?

Carigsby

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 07:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Mollywood - I agree with you that the houseguests are seeing through Danielle. Last night when they were sitting around the table and she was talking about how close she got to winning one HOH (tied with Roddy - Roddy won). She sounded so fake and so contrived. Surely the rest of them have to see it, too. As much as she talks about it and as much as she tries to use reverse psych - it's not working. Roddy was the king in that book, and Danielle is nothing but a BAD amateur. She's not fooling anyone. (I hope!)

Fruitbat

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 08:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Alaginger, I was concerned about that too but I now think that Lisa is confident that Dani wants Jason out. They all have to see him as the biggest threat....have to.

But does she see that it is Dani that really needs to go? That is what I am concerned about. Does she see that Mar (Dani/Jason up)has to get HOH so Lisa has control of the vote?

What555456

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 08:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fruitbat, why do you say that Dani is the one who has to go? Don't you think that each of the remaining HG's after tonight will stand a better chance of winning the vote at the end if Dani, rather than Jason, is one of the two?

Fruitbat

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 08:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am thinking that if Lisa wants to win she is better off with Dani gone.

There is a thread about this but I will say it here too.

Final three: Mar, Dani and Lisa. Mar and Dani would take each other to the final round. They know their only chance is with each other. She would HAVE to win the final HOH.

Final three: Jason, Mar and Lisa. Mar would take Lisa and there is a chance Jason would too. Her odds are better to win this way. If she missed the final HOH there is a chance.

It is a toss up between Jason and Lisa who would win and there could be a tie but she has a shot.

Wendo

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 09:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The interesting thing is, Dani HAS talked up the HG's in her DR's. While they may think it's reverse psychology, some of her DR have been a bit extreme, remember the impression one?

Denecee

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 11:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I loved Dani's impression DR of the HG. She is a funny woman, but the best she can hope for is 2nd place. JMO

Blossumtree

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 11:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i would really like to see amy somewhere in the equation of final 3, or better yet, final 2. it would be such a hoot to have an evicted houseguest win the game. plus, to me she's the most real and likeable of the remaining bunch.

Tobor7

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 02:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Costacat, if I was bashing you would know it.

I'm just bored with all of them and some things stick out. If you don't find them interesting, then just pass them by.
I do.
If you don't like the available topics--- make some of your own.
I do.
This discussion was a valid question and I wanted to see if others thought L was making a subtle game move or not.
I guess she is making one against J. The other thing is still up for grabs.

Ryn

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 05:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tobor7,

From your post above you state you are bored, sorry, but please do not just start several threads from boredom, it makes the moderators lives more difficult, please see this thread:

***** BEFORE YOU CLICK THAT BUTTON - DID YOU MAKE SURE THERE WAS NOT ANOTHER CONVERSATION YOU COULD POST TO THAT WAS SIMILAR? *****

In another post further up you state, "Just looking for a conspiracy theory."

If thats what you are in to then I would suggest ONE thread for conspiracy theories, we had that last year and it worked fine.

SO, to everyone, on that note I started a thread ***** Conspiracy theories only ******

Enjoy and please read the announcement at the beginning of the thread.

closing this thread.