How many Stars again??
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How many Stars again??
Aussiedeb | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:31 am     That is so sad. Im Australian living in Ohio and I know about the 13 colonies and stripes and who made the flag and there are 50 states. Actually my American hubby thought there were now 51 arrhhhhhhh... I can pass the citizenship test, its on the INS website.. I know about the constitution, the bill of rights etc..plus come winter quarter at college I will be doing American History.. I hope BB spends the day today giving them lessons in civics and all things American..
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Ericka1012 | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:51 am     Just a note a bit off the stars issue...but when Marcy unfolded the flag he was start to put it on the floor ... and Lisa stopped him telling him he couldn't put it on the floor ... he grinned at her and said "Oh, ok" but the look on his face was why the H*** not? I didn't comment on it here on the boards at that time but reading this thread seemed like it should also be added. Maybe they should have taken advantage of Gerry (the teacher) while he was there so thier knowledge could have been expanded beyond pop culture. Seems to me that it was mentioned several times they already went to school and didn't need to come there to be taught anything ...Maybe they should have taken advantage of a second chance at free education when they had the chance. |
Cmc209 | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 04:21 am     This is very off the topic, but what wasn't Monica's cousin's first name Tamatha? I went to search the database of 9/11 victims, and you can search by 1st name - there were no results. I hope some programmer didn't forget to add her name to the memorial database. |
Flyonthwall | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 04:34 am     Hi Cmc, Tamatha's last name is Freeman. I didn't find her name in to many lists, as the families are responsible for listing them, and they didn't have internet access during that time. I listed her for them at MSN and ...er..someother one sorry slips my mind. But I'm not sure if she got on any memorial list. You can submit her name or let me know and I'll be happy to do so. PS: I got a note from Monica yesterday. She received the quilt and is thrilled with it (the T-shirts also). Very touched. She apprecites it more than words can say. FLy |
Beserkknight2 | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 05:13 am     I for one am glad Dani doesn't vote now. I doubt that the others do either. Maybe that's a good thing? |
Kellee | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 05:32 am     Just a total side note about Cujo..he chose to leave the leafs and is now on the redwings... I have to say for them to be so uneducated on their own country is shocking...and I am betting they could make a whole Rick Mercer special on what they dont know abour Canada...(he does this bit where he goes down to the States and pretty well tests out their knowledge on Canada)... |
Itsallgood | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 06:28 am     LOL...2 Funny... and they thought AMY was dumb! Duh!! Guess she was the only one listening in school! Go AMY!!! |
Duhhart | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 06:30 am     I think the 50 stars and state thing - People have heard it mixed up with someone saying it is 52 mistakenly by saying Hawaii and Alaska. Then that thought gets in your head even though you know it is wrong it is in there and you second guess it. I can't keep Pearl Harbor straight because George H.W. Bush said mistakenly it was Dec. 9. |
Rissa | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 06:44 am     Another Cdn piping in. I know the 50 stars/13 colonies too. We had to not only know all the states but be able to place them on a map. Couldn't name the 13 original colonies though, probably make an educated for half of them. Kellee, I have that Mercer special "Talking to Americans" on tape. Was thinking it might be fun to start chain mailing it to any clubhouse Americans who would like to see it. But I can't decide if 1) most wouldn't get the reference's and therefore not find it funny or 2) just find it insulting. LOL What do you think? Personally I split a gut everytime and am still waiting for my colour brochure for the tours of Joe Clark's hole. And just because we have legalized staplers doesn't mean that all Cdn's can afford one, esp. since we have had to cough up all that money for new clocks after we moved to the 24 hour system last year. LOL |
Dixiebelle31 | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 07:14 am     I am an American, graduated with honors, and I can name the 50 states (if I write them down LOL) but I cannot tell where all go on the map (unless I have a map of the US puzzle LOL). Geography is not my forte. But I certainly knew about the 50 stars/13 stripes. Did they get the order of the stripes right? The prior 2 BB seasons had them doing challenges involving a map of the country, I guess they didn't think the HG needed that this year. Also, I applaud the Canadians here who can name all 50 of our states and a double applause to those who know the caps. too. |
Beegee | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 09:30 am     I finally understand why the HGs disparaged Gerry and why Danielle and others rolled their eyes every time Roddy wanted to talk about something other that popular culture -- they are so woefully ignorant they have absolutely nothing to add to any discussion. I am so embarrassed by all this. It made me worried that perhaps my 15 year old and 12 year old sons don't know the meaning of the flag, but I was relieved to confirm that they do. |
Secretsmile | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:01 pm     Ok, YES, I have to go there! Dani didn't want to sing the Star Spangled Banner because she doesn't know the words, then follows up with how proud she is to be an American. Did she really finish high school? I know she was an unwed teenage mother. |
Trulyscrumtious | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 09:32 pm     Quote:Originally posted by Kellee: Just a total side note about Cujo..he chose to leave the leafs and is now on the redwings...
Awwwwe chit, there goes another Canadian...  |
Cathie | Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 08:24 am     I don't know if this was posted anywhere else last night but it kind of fits this thread. Danielle asked Amy & Jason if people from Arkansas had southern accents. Amy laughed and said, "duh, YESSSSSSSS!" and reminded Danielle that she was originally from Arkansas. Danielle seemed to be really surprised about the accent and said she wouldn't expect them to because they weren't in the south. Amy started explaining that it was the western-most southern state, but still in the south. Danielle said "but it is over by New Mexico and that's not south." Jason and Amy had to describe to her where Arkansas is, bordered by MS, TN, MO, OK, TX and LA, and she then said that she was thinking Arkansas was the state between NM and CA, what is that one. When told it was Arizona she said she gets them mixed up because they both start with an A. Does anyone know Danielle's level of education? Is a degree (high school or college) required for her job? |
Screeminmeemie | Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 09:15 am     Even if she has no education, she has two school-aged children. I would think she would have, at some point in the past, bought them a USA puzzle, or helped them with their geography homework. You can't help but absorb some knowledge if you keep up-to-date on the happenings in our country. Good grief, even if I watch the weather forecast or the news there is inevitably a map of the US. I think this will be an embarassment to her later on. I would be embarrased if I didn't know more than that about our country. |
Marameko | Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 09:34 am     I am truly amazed at Danielle.......How can a person not vote ? Especailly given all that people like Martin Luther King Jr. fought for in this country. I just don't get it with her. The point was brought up that even if her education was limited one would think she would want to be knowledgeable for her children. Sure she is playing the game, but with all the bashing of evicted guests she is doing one lousy job. She is really looking self centered and none to bright these days.She is going to be so ashamed of herself when she views the tapes. And don't forget how she asnwered Julie's question on what she misses or needs and her response on live tv was sex. Geez |
Ericka1012 | Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 10:04 am     HELLO?????? How could she have gone thru 8 years of Clinton...with the whole Hope thing and all the information thrown around during White Water and not know where Arkansas is...like stated before she has children even if they were like only in 5th or 6th grade they have something to do with the states... Between her not knowing how many stars, strips on the flag and now this...you have to wonder about her indeed. |
Bigd | Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 10:29 am     Oh come on, as much as Danielle watches TV, you know she HAS to have seen a weather report and they always use a map, surely she can retain that. |
Neko | Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 12:26 pm     I thought it was 50 stars and 14 stripes. Oh well, I was close. |
Tabbyking | Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 12:32 pm     it is only 13 stripes for the colonies... AND!!! drum roll here, please: because otherwise it wouldn't be 'bordered'on the outside by red! i'm sure they were thinking that a few hundred years ago when deciding how many original colonies to have! ;>) |
Ericka1012 | Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 01:06 pm     For those of you that don't know about the history of the U.S. Flag...at one time there was 15 stripes with 15 stars...but I'm sure these folks were alive when that going on...All of them at sometime during thier education had to have been told about the relationship of the stars and stripes on the flag: On June 14, 1777, in order to establish an official flag for the new nation, the Continental Congress passed the first Flag Act: "Resolved, That the flag of the United States be made of thirteen stripes, alternate red and white; that the union be thirteen stars, white in a blue field, representing a new Constellation." Act of January 13, 1794 - provided for 15 stripes and 15 stars after May 1795. Act of April 4, 1818 - provided for 13 stripes and one star for each state, to be added to the flag on the 4th of July following the admission of each new state, signed by President Monroe. Executive Order of President Taft dated June 24, 1912 - established proportions of the flag and provided for arrangement of the stars in six horizontal rows of eight each, a single point of each star to be upward. Executive Order of President Eisenhower dated January 3, 1959 - provided for the arrangement of the stars in seven rows of seven stars each, staggered horizontally and vertically. Executive Order of President Eisenhower dated August 21, 1959 - provided for the arrangement of the stars in nine rows of stars staggered horizon tally and eleven rows of stars staggered vertically. |
John1971 | Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 01:13 pm     Maybe Danielle was thinking that Puerto Rico and Gaum were states? *l* Or Canada and Mexico! |
Seamonkey | Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 01:34 pm     Or the Virgin Islands or District of Columbia. another twist.. looking at the feeds from after I went off to bed last night Jason aske them each to discuss what made them grateful (in light of 9/11) and Lisa, Marcellas, Jason and Amy had rather thoughtful and significant answers and Dani said the NFL!!! |
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