Archive through September 13, 2002
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Why in the world is BB photographing HGs nude?!?!:
Archive through September 13, 2002
Guiltyviewer | Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 03:05 pm     Ahhh...once again, YOU be da MAN!!! Thanks DH |
Ryn | Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 03:06 pm     please please please don't start threads in ALL CAPS |
Jan | Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 03:07 pm     draheid, finally it comes clear to me. you are the one who originally told me that re filelock!. I have been racking my teeny, tiny used-up brain trying but I just could not remember who had given me that great advise re filelock..but I have been spreading the word. It really works! Thanks so much. |
Secretsmile | Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 03:10 pm     So...umm...did we scare poor Breezy away? I hope not! |
Breezy | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 01:21 am     Sorry all, I'm just now getting back. I've read all of your posts, and while I understand that they are in a house where there are cameras 24/7, I guess I just expected common decency to prevail, and that the films would be edited before exposing this. I feel that the women especially have been so violated. I feel for the humiliation the HG's and their families will experience. It makes me ill. I'm shocked, does that make me old fashioned? |
Breezy | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 01:24 am     Draheid, excuse my lack of knowledge in this area...but how are others outside of BB able to get this footage to put on net? It seems that BB would take precautions to keep the footage within their group. I am not at all familiar with how the set up works. Please fill me in if you have a moment. Thanks. |
Bridgetlovesbb | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 05:19 am     Breezy, kinda hard to edit live feeds. They were all aware of this before going into the house. They should be more careful. Dani hasnt been nude to my knowledge. (someone correct me if i am wrong!) And almost all of the guys were. I know Marc, Roddy, and Gerry all had full frontal nudity. IMHO, If the HGs care that much about it they would be more careful. |
Wcv63 | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 05:34 am     Breezy, there are cameras broadcasting from the Big Brother house 24/7 on the internet. You pull up a little screen and can watch what the houseguests are doing real time. Some internet viewers have managed to take screen captures or quick pictures from the broadcast feeds when a houseguest has been less than modest. I understand your dismay. I think Amy will be quite upset. I don't think any of the other girls will be as upset. It takes vigilence upon the part of the houseguests to preserve their dignity and modesty and they (and only they) are to be held accountable. |
Ryn | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 06:25 am     Breezy, this is the 3rd year of BB in the USA, if these house guest had done their research they would know if they exposed themselves in most areas of the house, chances are that the cameras would catch it. Jason is the one really well informed member of the house and he gets into the shower completely clothed and undresses there. By and large I don't think most of the other HGs care if they are see sans clothing on camera. This thread will be moved to "outside the house" shortly. |
Bkmac | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 06:27 am     Breezy- are you suggesting they edit the live feeds? They wouldn't be LIVE feed then though- and thats 3/4 the value of this game. They agree to live 24/7 with these cameras all over the house that film live onto the internet- and they understand anyone on the internet could click "snapshots" to show later. Theres no way BB could properly edit and then release this ootage, it simply wouldn't be the same game. |
Dondo | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 06:32 am     I get the impression that Breezy doesn't understand that the houseguests are seen by thousands of internet viewers 24 hours a day on live feeds (no tape delay) |
Jujugirl | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:23 am     This has to be the best thread I've read so far. Breezy, are you for real? Do you watch Big Brother, know what it's about? Or did you just stumble upon this page in search of "Friends"? Don't take offense, please. I enjoyed the laugh |
Spunky | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:47 am     eh, eh, eh..... I'm not the only one who falls from the sky once in a while.... (referring to the title thread) |
Breezy | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:49 am     BKMAC, out of common courtesy and decency I am suggesting that the dressing areas be off limits to the cameras. The audio portion could remain intact for the program, but regardless of the reasons some of you support the pics being taken and put in the net, it is still a violation, unjust, and in poor taste. I think they need to rethink their policy of filming the HGs nude in the bedrooms and dressing areas. Dondo...no I don't have the service where they are seen 24/7, so I didn't realize the extent of what was occurring. I watched all Big Brother programs, but have never seen the "live" service advertised, so did not know about it. I think alot of people are like me and unaware of what is going on. Thanks to those of you who have expressed your opinions in a respectful and kind manner, but to those of you like JUJU...well...nevermind! |
Duncan | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 09:02 am     Hi Breezy. If you have watched all of the BB's, how could you NOT know about the live 24/7 feeds offered in the Internet? They advertise it on the CBS site, and during every commercial break during the show. I could understand your dismay IF the HG's didn't realize that the possibility existed that nude pictures of them could wind up on the internet. They have all seen this show before, so they knew what they were signing up for. And putting ANY room in the house outside the camera's view would negate the whole idea of the program itself. If you haven't read it already, I would suggest you pick up a copy of 1984 by George Orwell. That might give you a better understanding of the show and it's basis. |
Ryn | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 09:15 am     ok guys - lets lighten up...... Breezy, welcome to the Fanclub, and welcome to the most REAL reality show. We like it because of the fact that we see what actually goes on, the stuff CBS never shows. Jason, as I stated before knows about the cameras and has been very careful about where he disrobes. There are cameras in the shower stall and the toilet but they are never shown on te live feeds, they are only there so the HGs realize they cannot go there and plot without BB seeing it As an example, last year Shannon used Hardy's toothbrush to scrub the toilet and it was shown on TV though we did not get to see it on the feeds. This year several of the HGs have gone into the toilet to cry, but we did not see it until it was shown on TV. Cassandra, in BB1 was also very aware of the cameras and, unless I am mistaken, never disrobed, she even showered in her swimsuit. These people make choices and KNOW that they might be seen on the net. Anyways, thanks for discussing it and your thoughts, they have been discussed before (usually earlier in the BB series) and they will be discussed again.
as for the rest of ya, be nice!! no sense scaring off someone that I am assuming is a pretty new member  |
Cmc209 | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 09:46 am     Who cares if BB is filming the HG's nude - if they are really THAT bothered about changing clothes, change in the toilet! I mean, it DOES have a door on it, and BB usually doesn't show the HG's doing their #1's and #2's. |
Jujugirl | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 09:48 am     Sorry Breezy, I just thought it was funny. Didn't want to offend...actually thought you were just kidding |
Pamy | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:09 am     Welcome Breezy!
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Duncan | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:41 am     If you took what I wrote as an attack, Breezy, I apologize. It was not meant that way. My only point is that CBS and ASP are not doing anything underhanded here. The HGs knew what they were getting themselves into, and if they didn't, it was their responsibility to look into the show a little deeper before they signed on. Welcome to TVCLUBHOUSE, and please come back for more controversy! (We seem to thrive on it!) |
Breezy | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 01:33 pm     Duncan, yes, I have heard them mention "live feeds", but knowing that this is a reputable tv station, I honestly thought the camermen were gentlemen and turning the camera away while the ladies were changing. I never DREAMED that all this time and through all these shows that these HG's were being compromised like this. And today on the written feeds, Amy asks the cameraman to please not film her while she changes. Yesterday while they were eating some of the HOH goodies, she said "Big Brother you are my friend"..she is in for a horrible surprise when she gets out of there. Something else to think about: on the news yesterday The Miss America Pageant took Ms. Revel's crown away from her because of some topless photos that her ex-boyfriend has taken of her and turned in. The judge involved in the case said he was "despicable" for what he had done to her. Look at BB and associated groups putting these pics on the internet. How are they not held accountable for contributing to the character assassination of these guests? Are their actions any different than what the ex-boyfried did to Ms. Revels? What repurcussions with the HGs face in the future for being violated like this nation and world wide? By the way I read 1984 20 years ago..so I am aware of the idea of Big Brother. I had given the show more credit than it deserved obviously, thinking that responsible individuals were making the decisions. Duncan,Ryn, and Pamy thanks for your comments and kind words. It helps soften the shock after reading some of the other comments. |
Breezy | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 01:41 pm     By the way, in my opinion, eventhough BB and CBS are not directly putting the nude pics on the internet, they ARE taking them in the house and therefore share responsibility for what is occurring on the net. |
Crazydog | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 01:52 pm     Breezy, there is a big difference between the BB houseguests and Miss North Carolina. I thought the NC girl was unaware of the pictures being taken and that they were taken without consent. Here, the BB houseguests willingly live in a house that is filmed 24 hours a day. They are aware of the cameras. While some of them are under the delusion that they will not be filmed naked, I am sure they signed some kind of waiver allowing for the broadcast of anything and everything. If they think they are not being captured naked then that is ignorance. There are plenty of websites showing pictures of naked houseguests from earlier seasons of BB - they should have researched that and realized it if they are that concerned. I have been watching live feeds and for the most part the camera does make an effort to turn away. For example, if someone is about to approach the shower, it will cut to the reverse angle until the person is in. Sometimes when the HG is changing it cuts to a different angle. It's impossible though, to avoid all nudity, sometimes it happens too fast and the person controlling the camera shots is not fast enough. This is when we get the nude shots. If they are so concerned about it they should take steps to prevent it. They don't seem to care. If they are concerned about future ramifications to their lives or careers then they shouldn't be appearing on a show like BB in the first place. Every minute detail of their conversations has been recorded and aired on the feeds. It's not a show for people who are concerned with privacy. |
Richardfan | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 02:02 pm     Roddy was told that they would not be filmed when they were undressed. This shifts all the responsibility from the HGs to ASP/CBS. They did film them so the HGs will have every right to be upset when they get out. |
Woodpecke® | Friday, September 13, 2002 - 02:04 pm     If you agree to go on BB, you know you may end up showing your body to everyone. No biggie. Amy has a nice body. She should be worrying more about how she trashed her father and mother to thousands of internet voyeurs than if she showed her vagina to curious screen cap collectors. |
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