Archive through September 08, 2002
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FF to 'Grand Champion' Night - Bloodshed or Lovefest?:
Archive through September 08, 2002
Mellbell416 | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 08:14 am     It is getting sooo boring in the BB house right now - but whatever happens, the final "Grand Champion" night where the winner of $500 000 is chosen is ALWAYS a doozie! What should we expect? Most of us figure that Dani will be in the final 2 (although Twists can change anything), but what kind of panel is she going to face after all of her backstabbing? Is Roddy still going to be bitter and vengeful at the meeting? What about the other HGs - What will they say? Will Dani finally get her comeuppance?And if Marc is in there, he may also get a roasting... I wish we could fast forward to that night instead of aaaall of this waaaiting! |
Lurknomore | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 08:25 am     I don't figure that ANYONE will be in the final 2. All over the board tons of threads are busy talking about HG's strategies and who will take out who, and who will be left. Everyone is forgetting one VERY MAJOR point. The game. Who is gonna win the next very important HoH's. On a lessor scale this Goldden POV might come into play too. But I don't care how much we talk loyalties and strategies, a lot boils down to who gets HoH and is safe, and also who gets to vote. |
Mellbell416 | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 08:30 am     Are the ex-HGs allowed to lobby for votes from the other HGs? 'Cause if they are, I can just see Roddy running around working the scene, squeezing out 'deals' from everyone and then if any of them don't go his way on the final night, he'll upbraid them on National TV and then forgive them as they wipe away the tears...sorry Roddyfans, I just couldn't help myself - I'm only human! |
Grannygrunt | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 08:47 am     I would imagine CBS has a LOT to do with how the former HG's treat the final 2. They may WANT to confront them but I imagine it will be very tempered compared to what they WANT to do or say. |
Spunky | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 09:09 am     It may be a lame show... remember last year... Nicole soon forgotten and Will had no limelight at all... |
Gina8642 | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 09:14 am     Mellbell Kent, from last year, has said some stuff about chilltown lobbying for votes, before the final vote. I never fully understood what he was saying they did, but he did make it sound like some big conspriracy theory. |
Jagger | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 09:16 am     I would assume they will allow the evicted hgs to ask one question like they did last year, and than they will allow the final two to give a statement as to why they should win. Than they will vote and announce the winner. Oh I forgot, the two left will get to nullify one persons vote. |
Twiggyish | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 09:21 am     Gina, that's interesting. It doesn't surprise me. I can see Mike Boogie or one of that crew doing it. Mellbell, you bet! We'll all be right here watching, too. |
Draheid | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 09:30 am     Last year they actually did the jury interviews a day or two before the final show. One question by each juror of each finalist. One 'twist' or change that hasn't been determined is whether or not in the next two HoH competitions the outgoing HoH can compete. THAT will have a huge impact since I'm sure Danielle will want the final HoH to determine who goes to final 2 with her. If she gets it this next week, and they don't change the rules, she's not elligble the following week. Should be interesting. As to the jury voting, I've said before that I think this jury is a bunch of wildcards. - They could deem Danielle the best gameplayer but vote against her out of spite. She seems to have the idea that Will's gameplay last year won him the money so why shouldn't she be the same consistent player in the DR and win... - They could claim Jason had an UNFAIR advantage being the most knowledgable of the game and vote against him. He does know much more about the game than anyone else so it's not a fair challenge for him to know so much when they didn't. - They could claim UNFAIR that Amy was allowed to come back and vote against her. Even though she's fought to be where she is. Jason has even mentioned that he feels she deserves to win as much as anyone (to Danielle's disdain). - They could claim that Lisa turned on Eric and vote against her. I think she would have Eric's vote no matter what, but I think the rest may hold it against her. - They could claim Marcellas was mean and vicious in the Dr and vote against him. Don't really have an arguement for this oppinion as I tend to agree with it. Since we've seen some of the attitudes of the former HG's, I think it's safe to presume they will probably vote for the lesser of two evils since anyone in the final 2 will have had unfair advantages, lied, manipulated, backstabbed, etc. and doesn't deserve to win anyway. JMO - FWIW |
Spunky | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 09:32 am     I just want it to be a tie vote and the public gets to vote!! That will be spectacular. |
Marymc | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 09:48 am     i can't imagine they will used jason's knowlege against him. (well...maybe chiara, since EVERYTHING is UNFAIR to her). Jason just did his homework and anyone who didn't would be a fool. |
Draheid | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 09:50 am     Marymc:
I think you've hit on the overall problem here!!! JMO - FWIW |
Battlestar | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 09:51 am     Who is the most popular right now on the CBS poll?? |
Gramma | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 09:56 am     I do think Dani will be in the final two and I think she'll lay down a final speech to the jury that will knock their socks off and make for some great TV. We haven't seen it yet, but from what I've read in the live feeds, all of the remaining HG's went into the DR together to make some joint comment re their feelings on 9/11. On their exit from the DR, the others seemed somewhat in awe of whatever dani must have said in there and were commenting on how effective it was. Perhaps we'll see something similar in her final speech to the jury. |
Earthmother | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 10:02 am     Draheid that's exactly how the jury voted last year and I see no differnce this year "the lessor of two evils." I think Jason will have to be very, very, very lucky to end up one of the last two seats. Monica was sent home, not because they didn't like her, but because they couldn't win if she sat next to them. They will now only want to keep who in their own personal opinion is the most vile to sit next to them. Dani knows she's made mistakes, but I think she believes her game playing will somehow save her. I don't.. Human nature is a funny thing, say what you want about others and I might even join in with you, but when you say it about me..you are toast. |
Draheid | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 10:04 am     Battlestar: Jason has consistently been the most popular on the CBS poll, however, his ratings have slipped a bit this past week. Besides, that poll is what WE on the internet thing and will not likely have any bearing on the jury votes. JMO - FWIW |
Battlestar | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 10:06 am     I was thinking about the Poll if it is a TIE vote......where is Danielle on the Poll. Sorry to be asking, but when I go there I just get a broken pic when trying to view the stats |
Jagger | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 10:06 am     Battlestar, Jason is still the most popular hg in the CBS pole, but his ratings have actually dropped in the last few weeks. Lisa's numbers are starting to grow, along with Amy's. Danni and Marc numbers are about the same with a slight drop. I think Danni will have a great final speech if she makes it to the final two, but will it be beleivable, I think it all depends on how much the evicted hgs have went and read or had someone watching the live feeds and also how she plays the game the next few weeks. |
Draheid | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 10:08 am     Earthmother: You are soooooooooooooo ...!! LOL
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Allietex | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 10:20 am     The only problem with letting the audience break a tie is that only a small percentage of the viewers get the live feeds or visit these websites. If a person only went by the tv ahow, they would: view Marcellas as a funny, dramatic, charismatic, kind man who has gone out of his way to be kind to his little friend Amy who is so needy. Lisa would come across as a sweet, kind girl who is everyone's friend. Dani would be the combination sweet mom and the strong, street smart, black woman who is only playing to help her family. Jason would be everyone's ideal son or little brother, who just sort of there but really doen't play the game much. Amy would be the overemotional, spoiled brat with a drinking problem who got an unfair advantage by being allowed back in the house. Those thumbnail sketches are true as far as they go but they don't show: Marcellas as the mean, spiteful,drama queen who bashes the other guests behind their backs and bullies Amy when he doesn't think she is doing what he wants her to. Lisa saying unforgivable things about Gerry and bashing Amy behind her back saying things that are not true. Dani bashing and trashing everyone but Jason behind their backs and having deals with eveyone in sight while sitting back and letting everyone else take the heat. Jason; well the sketch is pretty accurate, but he has also engaged in some mild bashing. Probably shown the most accurately, except he is playing the game just in his own quiet below the radar style. Amy: probably the most unfairly protrayed since Gerry. They have not shown her as the funny, funloving, kind, and loyal girl that we have seen. Can the audience do a much better job that the evicted houseguests if all they have seen is the show. I would hope the guests at least made an effort to go deeper. I don't know the answer to breaking a tie, I just hope it doesn't happen. I could actually see Dani or Marcellas winning and I don't want that. I want Jason or Amy. |
Earthmother | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 10:27 am     Having the public vote can't work unless the show is going to be on an adult only network and everything is shown. The editing is to scewed to give an accurate account of what is actually going on. I've said before, If I didn't know what was really going on in that house I would vote for Marc and Dani hands down to win. They have made them look like phenominal game players who have everyone's best interest at heart. The first year was a little different only because the live feeds were free and everyone had the opportunity if they wanted to see it. However again they had the voting faux pas against Brittney. As much as I liked the interaction it really did curtail much of the behaviors. |
Krossd | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 10:49 am      |
Onlyhuman | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 11:08 am     Just a little anecdotal information about popularity... I have a 13 year old nephew who surprised me last week by telling me his favorite show was BB3. He only watches the show, and mainly the Saturday & Thursday ones. I asked him his impressions of the people on the show. Marcellas: funny and nice; everyone likes him; may act weird sometimes but that's okay because he's...um...gay...you know Danielle: very smart and hates Roddy; nice to people Amy: YUCK! Always drunk and everybody hates her; thought she should have kept her word to save Roddy Jason: um...has an alliance with Danielle...really likes Roddy Lisa: Her boyfriend got evicted; pretty Roddy: Everyone hated him because he was nice and smart and they didn't want him to win. Overall, he really wants Marcellas and Danielle to win. Of course, that's a 13-year old boy, so I can't say if this is truly reflective of what the general public might do in case of a tie, but it does emphasize that Marcellas and Danielle have gotten pretty good editing treatment. |
Mellbell416 | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 11:57 am     Thanks for the chart, Krossd! I imagine that it would reflect the opinion of more the internet viewers than the regular TV viewers? I'm actually surprised that Roddy and Dani scored as low as they did - and Jason is waay up there. But just because someone is popular doesn't mean that they would get the vote because it's also about superior gameplaying. So the ex-HGs ARE allowed to sway other people's votes - God, Roddy is totally going to try and work Dani over. He is SO mad about being kicked out. And I am not quite sure why Eric is so anti-Dani. He said something to the effect of Dani manipulating Lisa. What was that all about? |
Avrey258 | Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 12:08 pm     Eric's words during one of his chats annoyed me. He said "I never realized Danielle was playing the game so hard". What does that mean? Then he went on to say that Dani was manipulative. This was only a few days after he lost his bid to come back into the house. I don't know why Eric would be shocked that any of the houseguests were playing the game. Did he think only the "good" people were the players? It just irritated me that he took issue with this. |
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