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TV ClubHouse: Archive: ARCHIVE THREE: Sorry to be repetitive...but why the heck don't they shut up about Amy?: Archive through September 11, 2002

Secretsmile

Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 08:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with you Jaysgal, but I have to admit, I can imagine Amy acting classy in more situations than I can Chiara.

Guinevere

Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 11:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I disagree; though I haven't admired all of her behavior, I do think Amy has a fair amount of class (though I really hate that word). She has held up under some pretty brutal treatment and though she has cried a lot at times, she has also in a number of instances reacted with more dignity than I can imagine reacting (e.g. her many nominations) under the same circumstances.

Goddess146

Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 11:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They, Lisa and Dani, are jealous of Amy.

Bernie

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 04:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy wouldn't do a group shower, wouldn't do the PB & flower bikinis, wouldn't talk about her sex life, so of course, she has to be a naked under her robe sl*t who's trying to vamp all of the men? And Danielle funnily enough is the only one who's ever 'seen' Amy's nakedness, and bashes her for it, yet, Danielle was proud to tell the world the other day that she herself was butt naked under her new gown, and misses sex more than she does her kids?
Danielle is a *self-moderated FOTH* of a woman, whose NEEDS have addled her brain, so that she is projecting her secret fantasies onto Amy, as well as being jealous as h*ll too.
Amy will do fine with her life, once she gets out of the 'nest of vipers' but Danielle will always, money or no, be what she is, and that is her tragedy.
As to Lisa, she seems to have suffered an attack of amnesia since her erstwhile buddies have left the house-very convenient that she never goes without panties, but forgets to put on her PB floral bikini these days.
Doesn't watching these people make you despair about the human race?
I think BB is bad for me, it causes depression and anxiety, loss of hope for the future of humankind, and induces rage and frustration, so I vote to evict BB from the airwaves. The lowest common denominator shouldn't be allowed such power.

Letmeinthere

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 04:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I just hope when Amy goes home and watches the tapes that she doesn't take the things they said about her to heart. IMO, she should consider the source. Danni and Lisa are just a couple of scrawny cats. I hope Amy tells them all what she thinks of their way of playing the game when she comes back to vote. At this stage of the game I did want Jason to win but considering his delusional state about Chiara and him joining along with the talk behind Amy's back, I'd sooner see the money given to Gerry than any of them.

Itsallgood

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 06:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Everyone has their own OPINION of CLASS, and as I stated above (somewhere lol), she will leave that house with the same CLASS she came in with. Meaning that being in the house with the "Nest of Vipers" won't deminish the same CLASS she had when she came in.

In regards to your post Letmeinthere, I feel she will see everything that was written about her and consider whose mouth it came out of, and will be just fine. It will just confirm her suspicions and it's all in writing so there is no way anyone can say "it's just a game" because there have been some very personal things said about her that have nothing to do with the game!

Again, this is JMHO, and I stand by everything I've typed about AMY! :-)

She's gonna be just fine!

Earthmother

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 06:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
There are too few people in the house now for Dani to bash behind backs to a select few to get Amy evicted. She has to convince Jason in case Lisa votes to keep Amy. Dani has to get Lisa to agree with her about Amy in front of Jason so he will not make a mistake and send out whoever ends up on the block with Amy as it could be her.

Dani wants Marc to stay..if he pov's himself then either her or Lisa goes up. She would prefer to keep Lisa because Lisa hasn't proven she can win any competions and Amy has. Amy could also team up with Marc against Dani if she stays. Dani has to get rid of Amy.

If Lisa goes up against Amy then there's no way Dani can guarentee Marc's vote and she will need Jason to find Amy so offensive (what's more offensive than a young girl not wearing panties to entice the young virgin boy?) that he will send her packing.

If Dani herself is put up she can't guarentee that Marc and Lisa won't both vote her out. IMO Dani thinks she has no choice but to make Amy look bad to Lisa to ensure she votes her out, and make her look bad to Jason in case of a tie.

Mom

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 06:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You got it Mush.

Amy might be short on class (and I'm disappointed that she turned on Roddy when I think Roddy had a reason to be disappointed that she didn't keep her word that she gave him in a public forum), but...I find her rather refreshing next to any other remaining hg. Everyone but Amy is calculating, figuring, conniving. Amy is just Amy and is not pretending to be someone she's not. In my book, that's a breath of fresh air.

Just an opinion. 2cents

Dee723

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 06:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I've missed out on the live feeds lately, we're in the process of moving, so has Jason actively taken part in this bashing or is he just sitting around listening and laughing to it like usual?

Lostintheglades

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 07:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Just a thought. Although they basically have been bashing Amy from day 1, I've noticed a trend here. They seem to bash the one who is going to be voted out or leaving the most. Almost as if they are trying to justify voting someone out. I thinks it makes it them feel better.

What555456

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 07:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
To me, Jason's sitting around a listening and laughing is the same as being one of those who says the words. There are those who say things, and those that encourage them with their support and laughter to go even further. If there were no supportive audience, the talk would not be occuring.

You guys who support Jason have really got to get off the kick that he is somehow morally better than anyone else. If you like hm because of the way he looks, his age, his personality, his strategy, his voice or whatever...this is all fine.

But to me he has shown himself to be very willing to get down and dirty with rest of them and has played in the mud with them all when he has to to win. And I expect he will continue to do so as the play gets much more personal and much nastier.

Twintown

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 07:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
WHAT555456:

I've got to say I agree with you on this Jason thing and Amy "class" thing.

I'm amused that even if Jason is bashing someone, the Jason supporters will find someone else to blame. Now that is blind loyalty to the 10th degree.

Amy - She's not a despicable person, but I'm not seeing all this stated "class".

What555456

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 08:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Twintown

I do find the dichotomy of their posts interesting.

One the one hand, they get really upset when they think someone is holding Jason to a higher standard because he claims to be a Christian (which I can't accept since he volunteered to be on a show that breaks almost all of the seven capital sins, which he knew before he applied) and because he claims to be a virgin (which I also doubt).

On the other hand, they seem to see any negative thing he does as a small infraction as if he cannot sin and place the blame any everyone else for all the backstabbing and negativity in the house. And normally the place all the blame on Danielle.

What I think they fail to realize is that Jason has been a partner in all of Danielle's crimes and in fact has encouraged and enabled anything negative she has done. He has sknown about it, helped conceive and plan it and helped implement it.

He is the one who for weeks snuck around the house, hiding what he was doing, and fed information back to Danielle -- interpreted in such a way as to focus her efforts on one person or another, based on whether he felt threatened by that person or did not like that person.

If it were not for his part in "her" crimes, she would not be perceived as she is. Nor, of course, would she be as strong as she is or as far along as she is. The converse is also true; if it were not for her actions, he would not be where he is.

The two of them are the opposite sides of the same coin. She is the bad cop; he is the good cop. But they both share the same motivation, the same strategy and the same method of playing the game. She simply speaks it, while he hides behind her words and looks on with such innocent expressions on his face.

Stingerman

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 08:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well Dee723 he made a pretty crummy comment last night to her.

she asked a question and he told her "You can watch it next week on TV" basically saying you are gone for sure come Thursday. She was a bit pisssed and told him to kiss her A$$.

Earthmother

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 08:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think to even bring the word "class" into a discussion about this den of vipers is funny. What does someone do to have class? Do you flaunt yourself while giving lessons on sexual prowess? Do you tell everyone about your many, many relationships with men in graphic detail? Do you make a fool of yourself while villifying everyone in your path? Do you go ghetto and verbally execute others while spouting cudos to your ability to be a good parent? Do you revengfully get rid of someone so you can make a play on the guy who dissed you for her? Do you sit and listen to trash about people you profess to like and laugh? Again "class" is not a word to describe any of these people.

They are playing a game. I wish they had learned to play it while somehow being humane, however it looks like the ones who have said the most disgusting things about others are 3 of the final 4, so who's to say what works when trying to win the cash.

Csnog

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 08:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Class never runs scared. It is sure- footed and confidant, and it can handle whatever comes along.
Class has a sense of humor; it knows that a good laugh is the best lubricant for oiling the machinery of humane relations.
Class never makes excuses. It takes its lumps and learns from past mistakes.
Class knows that good manners are nothing more than a series of small sacrifices and minor inconveniences.
Class bespeaks an aristocracy unrelated to ancestors or money. Some extremely wealthy people have no class at all, while others who are struggling to make ends meet are loaded with it.
Class is real, you can’t fake it.
Class is comfortable in its own skin. It never puts on airs.
Class never tries to build itself up by tearing others down.
Class is already up and need not attempt to look better by making others look worse.
Class can walk with kings and keep its virtue and talk with crowds and keep the common touch.
Everyone is comfortable with the person who has class, because he is comfortable with himself.
If you have class, you’ve got it made.
If you don’t have class, no matter what else you have, it won’t make up for it.
Ann Landers

What555456

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 08:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
An even more basic question, Earthmother, is whether anyone with class would even be willing to have their entire life filmed, streamed 24/7 on the Net, and edited for no reason other than to entertain the great unwashed masses and to make money for major corporations.

None of these people have class. Among other things, Class implies a sense of dignity. There is no dignity when you agree to this type of experience for nothing more than money.

Realfan

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 08:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
To me, it's relative, not either/or. Amy has much more class than Chiara, based on her actions in the house. That's all I need to know about class relative to Amy.

Secretsmile

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 08:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If I both Chiara and Amy were both my daughter's I'd be less upset about Amy's actions than Chiara's when viewing the feeds.

Itsallgood

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 09:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What555456...I'm just curious if you have a favorite HG and who it might be if you do???

Also was wondering if you have the Live Feeds or do you just read this site and watch what they show on TV?

Secretsmile

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 11:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm watching the live feeds right now, they are getting on their 9/11 t-shirts, I'm sorry but to me Amy looks more sexy than either Dani or Lisa. That girl isn't fat, she's stunning! I'd much rather look Amy than Lisa. Again, JMHO

Itsallgood

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 11:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Yep I gotta agree wif ya there Secretsmile. Out of all of them I like her T-Shirt the best. I also like her Decoy T-Shirt too. ;-) Hope it works. lol

Nmbeach

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 12:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This is why I think they bash Amy so much - They do not understand her. People that are not from the South, do not understand Southern humor. I live in a resort area, and a lot of people here are not from the South. I have to be really careful about jokes I crack, because a lot of times, they don't get it & generally think that I am being rude. I would bet that 99% of Amy's fans are from the South & have almost rolled in the floor over some of her comments. I love Amy, and will be soooooooo sad to see her go.

Wendo

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 12:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What said, "What I think they fail to realize is that Jason has been a partner in all of Danielle's crimes and in fact has encouraged and enabled anything negative she has done."

Interesting post What. And I agree with a lot you've written.

As to the above quote, remember on the tv show a week or so ago when Jason wanted Dani to "threaten" Mar about who he was going to nominate? Dani said she didn't want to do to that and he insisted at first. Sometimes I wonder, have some of Dani's actions been pushed by Jason? And, has she done them for their advancement because he didn't want to?

I just think he gets a better shake in the game than Dani when we've clearly seen Jason get threatening and pushy.

Bernie

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 12:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nmbeach, I have the same problem. I'm originally from Britain, and we have that sardonic sense of humour, which has gotten me into trouble too, over here. It doesn't mean that I'm 'mean.' I just see a funny side to things that perhaps others don't see, or they don't appreciate the fact that I find something funny that they don't.
I dunno if I have that in common with Amy, but I often notice that she has given little digs at the others that they haven't even realised-things that have gone right over their heads! She's a lot smarter and more amusing than they give credit for, and I'll miss her bright energy in the house.