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TV ClubHouse: Archive: ARCHIVE THREE: "PICTURE" instead of "PITCHER" ? (ARCHIVE): Archive through September 12, 2002

Tobor7

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 09:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't get it.
I even think someone pointed it out to Lisa early in the show, but she said "That's the way I've always said it."
I am amazed that she continues to say what she knows is wrong. "Always doing it that way" is no excuse. It makes her appear stupid.

So here are the options:

(a) She thinks it is cute
(b) She thinks it makes her look smart
(c) She won't be corrected by anyone
(d) She has a learning problem
(e) She has a speech problem
(f) She has a baseball fetish
(g) She is a professional photographer and can call it whatever she wants


Survey says...........

Kelly

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 09:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
a

Letmeinthere

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 09:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
she's been living in a commune on a remote island somewhere in the pacific where books, limited variety of fruit and Mr. Rodgers Neighborhood are taboo.

Crossfire

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 09:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My guess....is that she learned it from me.

h) Hearing problem

Now, quit calling me names. :)

Draheid

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 09:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whenever she pronounces hard consonants it makes her tummy wiggle which causes 'sensations' in her navel so she avoids all hard consonants!

Crossfire

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 09:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hehehehe :)

Whoami

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 09:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Some people just can't pronounce a word right to save their lives. I have a good friend who always says, "plublic" for "public." The first time I heard her say it, I thought she was goofing off, and was about to call her on it. By the time I heard her several more times that day (and thereafter) I realized she always said it that way. I'm sure glad I didn't make fun of it the first day!

Draheid

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 09:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually I had a friend stationed in Germany who could NOT say breakfast to save his life. Many people tried to teach him and it always came out 'Breastfest' LOL

Letmeinthere

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 09:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Draheid, that is what some men would like it to be. =))

Gouraphik

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 09:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"Breastfest"...I like that one! If I ever find myself sharing a box of Cheerios with the dearly departed Tonya, I'll be sure to mention it. :)

Jimmer

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 09:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Some people seem to have trouble with certain words. Not necessarily an accurate reflection of their intelligence.

Zachsmom

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 09:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Jimmer..I cannot for the life of me pronounce "Worcester" .. I try but end up saying "Lea & Perrins" ..

What555456

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 09:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"Some people just can't pronounce a word right to save their lives. I have a good friend who always says, 'plublic' for 'public.'"

Whoami, you reminded me of one the most most embarrasng thing I have ever done in my career.

When I was a young hot shot (you know, in your 20's when you think you know everything!), I was working for a city planning department. Lots of public hearings in front of the Planning Commission. Each hearing required that surrounding property owners receive a formal notice of the hearing. At the top of the notice in big bold letters was "Notice of Public Hearing."

Once, when I was tasked with getting the notices out, I typed the notice as it was supposed to be typed. (So I thought!) Mailed it out to over 300 people. It was not until I started getting calls a couple of days later, that I realized the title of the notice was:

"NOTICE OF PUBIC HEARING."


LOL!! No, this was not the last stupid thing I have ever done at work -- but it certainly was one of the most public!

Scorpiomoon

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 10:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The "picture"/"pitcher" thing has made me nuts since the beginning.

If she really is the genius photographer she thinks she is, she'd be smart to start using the word "photo" or no one will take her or her "pitchers" seriously.

JMO.

Goddess146

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 10:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy made a big deal out of Lisa'a "picture/picther" thing. She admitted that she did not realize that she was saying it wrong. Roddy ended the conversation with a condescending "It's cute."

Tobor7

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 11:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ugh! All these years and she didn't realize that she was saying it wrong! Her friends have done her a large wrong by not pointing this out a long time ago.
And even though she knows it is wrong NOW, she continues to do it!

((BTW- ever ntoice how Jason always corrects D's stuff by re-phrasing it the right way in his answer??))

Survey says:

(a) 1

(h) 1

Turtlelvr

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 11:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Because of differing dialects in the US, it's not uncommon for MANY words to be mispronounced.
I'd go into linguistic explanations for why this happens, but it's rather boring..lol Anyway, here's a nice site that has many commonly mispronounced words (no, pitcher, and picture are not listed, but its easy to see why two such similar words might be). I find very few people who don't mispronounce some of the words on this list.
http://rinkworks.com/words/mispronounced.shtml

Also, it's not an easy task to change speech patterns, otherwise you'd not hear so many dialects in the english language.

Jeeny98

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 11:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Turtlelvr, you are correct. In a suburb of Boston where I grew up, we (they) said it that way too. Heck, even worse...shots could also be what you wore in the summer instead of long pants (shorts), as well as we got shots at the doctor's. Another one..... "con" could be something you eat on a cob (corn) as well as a swindler. Even though we knew they were spelled differently, we always knew what each other meant because of the context in which it was used. :lol

PS, I don't say pitcher for picture anymore, nor con for corn, etc. I now live in Ohio. They wouldn't know what I was talking about if I did. :p

Scorpiomoon

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 11:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
After visiting the URL Turtle offered, I confess, I promounce a few words wrong.

But I still refuse to cut Lisa any slack. :)

Jeeny: In your example, aren't you referring more to one's accent than the way they pronounce words?

I would be more forgiving of someone with a Boston accent who pronounced "corn" as "con"--atributing it to the accent and not to ignorance or an unwillingness to change.

Sunriverose

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 11:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I come from a multi regional family, all in the USA. There are so many pronounciations for words within my family, for instance, some people say the word "orAnge" as "ornge" and the say "fIre" as "fure", they say "mirror" as "mir" and one of the funnest ones is "naaked" as "nek-id"

So, Please, can't you find something more interesting to worry about than how someone pronounces a word?

Willsfan

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 11:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
How about:
Aggs - Hens lay 'em
San Tone - A nearby town
Buy You - Slowly moving body of water
TAKE Sis - The best state
Heidi - A texas greeting
You Mid - summer weather
Skeeter Hawks - Dragonflies
Bayer - Beer (not aspirin)

Eden

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 12:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm sorry, but if you pretend to be a photographer you should be able to say the word PICTURE! Practice! Say it to yourself endlessly until you master the sounds. PICTURE. You can't expect be thought of seriously as a photographer is you can't correctly pronounce the product of your energy! PICTURE! Pitcher isn't "cute" it is just ignorant.

Crossfire

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 12:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bah!

I went to m-w.com and saved me copy of both words being spoken, and I say they are close enough that in regular conversation, I would have no idea. You could swap them back and forth all you want, and I'd never notice.

Of course, I don't think my ears are the best judge. In fact, due to my lifelong apparent speech problem, I think I like the wrong way better. Hehehe. :)

Bernie

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 12:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
My pet peeve: the word is nuclear, not nucular!

Worcester is pronounced wooster, as in Bertie Wooster in the Jeeves books, Jeeves being Bertie Wooster's butler.

How about Cholmondeley? That happens to be pronounced Chumley, and Saint John can be heard said as Sinjun-all this from the British Isles of course, where we never pronounce words as they are spelled - that would make it too easy for them thar furriners to unnerstan' wot we's a-talkin' aboot!

Tobor7

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 12:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Survey says:

(a) She thinks it is cute: 1

(h) Hearing problem: 1

(i) Ignorant: 1

((How about a vote with those comments.))