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Chiparock

Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 05:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
[I hope I'm not breaking any rules by posting this here. I originally posted it on the "Bucky" thread.]

"REMEMBERING 9/11 THROUGH BIG BROTHER" is another thread on this board that some of you have visited. I remember 9/11 for one more thing: animals -- from the valiant search and rescue dogs to the animals stranded at the WTC area to the mobil veterinary hospitals set up to care for the animals. The Suffolk County SPCA had their mobil unit right at Ground Zero to care for the search and rescue dogs -- eyedrops, intravenous fluids for dehydration, patching up paws bloody, bruised and tattered from searching "the Pile," and even emergency surgery. Vets and Vet Techs worked around the clock.

Sirius, the bomb-sniffing Yellow Lab K-9 police dog owned and handled by Port Authority Officer David Lim, was the only dog actually killed in the WTC. Officer Lim put him in his basement kennel to keep him safe during the emergency, not realizing the scope of the disaster initially. Officer Lim barely escaped with his own life in the rescue of countless people in the Tower (One, I think).

A memorial will be erected in honor of Sirius and all the K-9 Search & Rescue and Police dogs. A pin/tack depicting the Twin Towers and Sirius was made to raise funds for the memorial. I wear mine every day at work, on my ID badge.

If anyone is interested, I can provide the name of the manufacturer, which is donating all profits to the memorial fund. E-mail me at: Chiparock@hotmail.com

Wendo

Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 06:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
From my perspective, I didn't get the impression that what the HG's want to do for 9/11 was contrived. It's been something they've talked about for the past couple of weeks. They seem to sincerely want to mark the occassion as best they can since they're stuck in the house.

Dagny

Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 08:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just heard Lisa mention that they are going to use the candles they made for their candle light rememberance ceremony.

Suitsmefine

Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 09:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I will not criticize anyone for the way they choose to memorialize this tragic event...That morning I will be watching as my 8 yr. old sing on our county courthouse square...I will have our Flag raised at half mast as well as the flag that is still flying on my cars antennae....I will then come home and pray, all day for the victims, their families, the nation,the world, and the thousands of servicemen and women who are still fighting the war on terrorism....MAY GOD BLESS THIS NATION !!!! I feel like the houseguests are simply trying to let the nation know, that they too REMEMBER! We will all be staging a remembrance in one way or another, all I care about is that we NOT FORGET!

Wendo

Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 09:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well said Suitsmefine, well said.

Abby

Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 09:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
my picture

Jasonfan

Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 09:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The HGs said they wanted to wear the clothing for the live show so that TV viewers wouldn't think they'd forgotten.

Loppes

Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 10:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jasonfan,
Yeah they do, except for one small matter. They want CBS to provide them with FDNY hats, etc. I think that's disgusting. Don't they have the brains to do something simple, eloquent, and not be so greedy for collector items from a tragedy?
Lon

Chiparock

Monday, September 09, 2002 - 04:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo, Dagny, and Jasonfan, thank you for another perspective on the HG's motivation for observing 9/11. Now when it's on tv, I won't think "Yeah, right." A candlelight ceremony will be beautiful, and whether or not they get the hats or any other items related to 9/11 is irrelevant.

Abby, that's a lovely drawing of a commemorative candle. Maybe the houseguests can make something similar. Amy seems to have some expertise in the craft of candlemaking; perhaps she can utilize the technique of "pysanky," which is decorating Easter eggs using wax as a reverse stencil. It wouldn't require a writing instrument, only a pointed tool or utensil.

Whatever they do, now I can appreciate it with a less jaundiced view. I really don't think they are so jaded that they would regard any 9/11 items as collector items.

Chiparock

Monday, September 09, 2002 - 04:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Suitsmefine, you said: "I will not criticize anyone for the way they choose to memorialize this tragic event..."

I hope you don't mean me. I would only criticize memorials made hypocritically, for one's self-interest. I don't get live feeds so must depend on the perspective of others. When I thought that the HGs' observance of the tragedy was motivated by ego rather than any true emotion, I was appalled. I'm glad to hear that it isn't so.

Like you and the rest of the US, I will be observing the day with my heart, soul, and actions.

Maris

Monday, September 09, 2002 - 04:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I watched the live feeds and I did think that one or two of the HGs were more about camera time and how they would look. I wont say every HG acted that way and I wont name the HGs that seemed hypocritical.

In any event, I agree one shouldnt criticize people for the way they chose to remember the tragic event. For me, it will be a day of quiet and I will go to my church in the morning and pray for those children without parents.

Loppes

Monday, September 09, 2002 - 06:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Chiparock,
A few days back Dani was excited about doing something about 911 but doing it on the day they think that BB takes the sound bites for airing the TV show. Dani rattled off a list of items specific to 911 that they wanted CBS to give them. There was never any mention of paying for the items to wear. I only mentioned the FDNY hats which are popular and in demand. It offends me as I lost a friend who was a firefighter.
Lon

Chiparock

Monday, September 09, 2002 - 06:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Loppes, I'm so sorry you lost your friend. I guess I'm naive, but I thought that those who wore the FDNY hats did so out of compassion for the firefighters and their families. Guess some think it's trendy, which is indeed offensive.

Maris, at least the HG's aren't ALL about camera time. I hope that the day is solemn, respectful, and introspective for all, even those who are trying to fake caring.

God Bless America. United We Stand.

Djgirl5235

Monday, September 09, 2002 - 10:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Last year, I was a DJ at a bar doing a karaoke show. I had a day job as well, and was the only one in my office listening to the radio when the first tower was hit. I sat at my desk stunned, and once the initial shock wore off, walked around to let others know since it seemed to be a big thing. When news of the second plane came, I turned my computer off, and went to the coffee shop in our building to watch on CNN with just about every other person in the building. That was definitely a day that things stopped. Half of Toronto closed because of threats to the CN Tower, the Parliament Buildings in Ottawa as well as some of the financial district of Toronto. It was just as much a shock to us up here in the north as it was to the US.

Getting back to my initial reason for posting - since Sept. 11 happened on a Tuesday, and I didn't work at the bar until Friday, I wanted to do something special for the victims in a sort of remembrance/tribute thing. The owner of the bar pretty much screamed at me stating that WE didn't need to do anything, and that I would be fired if I even tried to do anything. I (unfortunately) needed the money, so I abstained from it (I was going to sing "Imagine" but that was nixed), so instead, I told one of my best friends who was there that evening what had happened, and she sang it for them - proudly, determined, and right into the face of the owner... I've never been more proud to be her friend, and more ashamed of myself - I should have said SCREW YOU!!!

I will be quietly reflecting on Wednesday, and remembering my best friends good friend Neilie who passed away that day on Flight 11.

May the Lord Bless us All!!!

Rain

Monday, September 09, 2002 - 02:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I did watch BB2 last year after 9/11. I also watched hours and hours and hours of news everyday. BB2 kept me somewhat connected to the life I knew before. I was touched by Monica and disappointed BB didn't tell the hgs everything about the attacks as soon as it happened.

This year, I will not be watching much news. I don't need to be prompted to remember--its hard to do anything BUT remember. 9/11 exists within me permanently. I can see those people jumping; I see the south tower explode as I watched on live tv. How can I forget? After having nightmares and waking up crying for months, and even now feeling a sense of deep loss that sometimes washes over me in a tidal wave of emotion, I have decided to pay respect to the anniversary by joining in a group commemorative activity.

I find it conforting to "remember the future". I support those who are working so hard to defend us and the rest of civilization against future acts of bararism like 9/11. I support the President and Congress, and all our local leaders trying to keep our cities safer. I support our military. And I remember how much I love this dear country that has given me what I most cherish--liberty. That is how I go on.

Rain

Monday, September 09, 2002 - 02:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
sorry--that should be "future acts of barbarism".

Wendo

Monday, September 09, 2002 - 03:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Personally, I think ALL five of the HG's in there want to remember and honor 9/11 the best they can while they're in the house. They're not with loved ones, they're not able to watch the memorials, or attend them, nor are they able to really remember with the rest of us, on the outside. That they want to remember 9/11 on tv tells me they want us to know that they haven't forgotten, even though they're playing the game.

To criticize them for how they choose to remember is taking away from the spirit of the day - coming together to never forget, and honor those who are no longer with us.

Let's remember that. :)

Loppes

Monday, September 09, 2002 - 08:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Chiparock,
Yes, the difference is those who wear them have paid for them, and the donation goes to the Firefighters. Dani expected CBS to give the HGS items such as those for free, so they could "remember". My point is there are those far more deserving of 911 memory items, like hats, than the HGS.
Lon

Chiparock

Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 04:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I want to share an incredibly moving website with all of you: www.politicsandprotest.com. This website is: "Dedicated to the men, women and children who lost their lives; all those who sacrificed their lives; And to all the Heroes that responded to the emergency 11 September 2001."

Don't be put off by the name of the site. This is a lengthy presentation of photos, like a slide show of the people and events of 9/11. Photos of ALL the passengers and crew of ALL 4 hijacked planes are shown. Photos of the buildings and Penn. crash site, of rescuers, of survivors, of a crying Giuliani, of Bush, of the members of Congress gathered to sing "God Bless America, and of the devastation wrought on that horrendous day. There is background music: Enya singing "Only Time."

It is quite lengthy, approx. 20 minutes, and takes several minutes to load (7 mb).

It's a stirring memorial of 9/11. You won't remain dry-eyed.

Earthmother

Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 07:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
There were many times last year that this board became a refuge from real life for many of us. We as a group found ways to laugh (a hard thing to do) and start healing.

I agree that anyway you choose to honor those who lost their lives or who are still fighting for our freedom is fine with me.

Many people handle grief in different ways. Some last year thought those of us who came here for escape were wrong, but we got out our aggression by any means we could.

BB also reminded me of things prior to 9/11 and also reminded me that life continues, differenty, but continues none the less.

Alaginger

Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 07:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ditto Wendo........

Secretsmile

Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 08:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm asking for anyone praying on 9/11 to please remember that some of us have children in the armed forces overseas. They are on high alert during this anniversary and it's hard for me. Thank You.

Liz

Secretsmile

Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 08:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
P.S. We are for the first time raising the Security Level to HIGH. There are 'credible specific threats to Americans Overseas."

Chiparock

Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 09:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
May God bless all our military personnel and keep them safe. Secretsmile, please let your son know that TVCH members are praying for him. Also, please send our thanks to him for the huge sacrifice made by our military to protect us and preserve our precious liberty.

Secretsmile

Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 09:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank You Chiparock! As I've stated before, if 9/11 hadn't happened he would be sitting in his college dorm right now.