Danielle should NOT perm her hair in the house...seriously.
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Saphyre

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Personally I would like to see Amy tell Danielle that she will trim her hair and do the perm on Friday. I think the look on Dani's face would be priceless as she tried to decide just how badly she wants that perm.

Blossumtree

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
oooh, that would be good, make dani a hostage to the perm. <>

Thorntara

Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani's hair is clearly chemically relaxed. While most people without kinky hair think if a perm as a way to make their hair curly, wavy, appear to have body, those of us with the kinky hair know that perm can also relax the kinkiness. You apply the perm, and instead of rolling it on rods of any size, you just start combing, stretching the hair out. Generally, today, you would use a hot comb (which Dani has) to do this, but ideally, you want to use a regular comb. It's very hard to do it yourself with a regular comb, and even harder if what you are doing is trying to relax new growth (which Dani refers to a lot). She's been there for two months, so she probably has an inch or more of new growth. It's also very very hard to style hair that has been chemically treated but has that much new growth, without laying the curling iron right on the scalp.

Mostly likely, she does small touch-ups on her own, but this is a BIG one. It's good she has someone that can comb for her, so the result will be more even.

What I don't understand is why she didn't bring a perm or two with her when she came into the house? Yes, the box is bulky, but she could take out the contents, discard one of the sets of bottles, and put the whole thing into a ziplock sandwich bag. Did BB take the perm away from her? Did she think she wouldn't last long enough to need one? Did she think they would just provide them to her?

Finally, the brand they gave her is the leading brand for people wanting to de-kink as opposed to curl. I'm really really trying to avoid an racial references here, but you see, on the box, one white woman with silky, shampoo-ad swing here. This brand is clearly meant for de-curling. I'm sure she knows it, and I'm sure she's done it before, at times when she didn't have the time or money for the full salon treatment.

By the way, today, I just make the most of my hair, and don't comb perm through any more....not that there was ever any problem with the perm kits, just that I don't want to spend my time that way any more.

Kyline

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 03:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Gouraphik, I'm GLAD you made this thread.

Everybody is assuming that Dani has experience with perming (relaxing) her own hair, but Thursday night on the live feeds she talked about how she has NEVER EVER done it on her own, in any way, shape, or form. She didn't even KNOW what to tell the BB people to get for her...all she could do was tell them to go to a store called "Oh My Nappy Hair" to get a perm product.

I, too, thought she was being incredibly STUPID to try to relax her own hair for the FIRST time, 11 days before probably being a focal point on the finale show.

I haven't read threads or watched the live feeds since then, so I don't know whether she's actually relaxed her hair already...if it worked out fine, that's great. But in my opinion, she was being silly. 11 days worth of more new growth would have been preferable to the disaster that could have happened LOL. Her hair has been looking fine, IMO.

Bigbrotherbelle

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 07:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know what type of perm she has or how much it differs from other brands. Even if I did, I still wouldn't know how much stronger it is.

But, when I was in high school, my hair was shorter and therefore wavier. I wanted it perfectly straight, so I bought a perm and combed it straight instead of curling it. I was in high school and did it by myself for the first time - it came out fine.

I think it'll be okay as long as they aren't total idiots about it and leave it in way longer than possible, especially if it's made as a home perm.

Plus, Dani wants Amy to trim her hair afterwards, so that should help.

Niceguy

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 07:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This is another example of Danielle not being in the same league as the previous African-American women on either BB or Survivor.

You would think CBS would have thought this through and said,"Danielle, you're going to have to wait until the show's over."

Its friggin' lye folks. People make mistakes.

Its not a good idea. IMO.

I know Cassandra went off about getting her hair messed up but I'm trying to remember did she get a perm. I don't believe she did.

Katlady53

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 07:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
For some reason, it irks me that Dani wants to make sure she utilizes Amy's hairdressing skills before she gets Amy booted out.

Letmeinthere

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 08:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Would Amy have gotten peroxide to dye her hair if she wasn't a natural blonde? I doubt it.

Niceguy

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 08:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That's on Amy. If she chooses to be used that way its really pathetic. That's been Danielle's style throughout the game. Bring someone to the edge and make false allegiances then push them over the cliff when they are no longer useful.

If Amy can't see that by now I can't in good conscience feel sorry for her.

Unless of course she means to leave Danielle with less hair.

Ark

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 08:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Let, I think Amy would have gotten hair dye, had she requested it. Brit got lots of hair dye on BB1.

Spygirl

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 08:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Brit brought hair dye with her when she entered the BB1 house. If she requested and got more given to her, I missed it completely (but that is possible because I only watched 1/2 of BB1).

Mizinvancouver

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 08:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe Danielle is using her but if I was Amy I would just do it out of sheer boredom. I mean there's not much to do in the house at least it would kill a few hours.

So I wouldn't feel used...I would be getting something out of it too, entertainment.

Dulci

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 08:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh my, I didn't know Danielle had never permed her hair before, I would be concerned too.

Cassandra was training dreadlocks, I don't know much about it, but it's not easy getting them started.

Brit brought hair dye into the house, but she also bought the blue I think with house grocery money.

I thought Amy was a natural blonde, I don't see any roots?

Ladytex

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 10:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh for Pete's sake... most of the hair relaxers that you buy now are no-lye relaxers. They come with instructions. If you can read directions, you can successfully apply said relaxer.

Edited to add that I have been relaxing my hair for 20 yrs and my daughters since she was 4.

Gina8642

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 10:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I used to work in a drug store. We sold tons and tons of relaxer for home use. Someone must be doing this at home sucessfully, we never had complaints.

Cathie

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 10:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dulci is correct. The BBI HG did buy hair dye with grocery money, and Brit wasn't the only one who used it. I think they also let them buy cigarettes with grocery money, too. They had a weekly food allowance, and as the number of HG dwindled they were allowed to use the excess for non-food items. Most of their food challenges resulted in an increase or decrease of grocery money, and they had to make a list each week of what they needed/wanted. Remember when they left the toilet paper off the list? I think they ended up using paper towels and who knows what else that week.

To relate to this topic, in the days of BBI Dani could have easily gotten perm by now, as I'm sure she could have convinced the rest it was a necessity (would YOU want to challenge her, lol?)

Niceguy

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 11:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd have no problem with saying no to Danielle...but that's me.

Wendo

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 12:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good golly, some posters here will find ANYTHING to hold against Danielle. Criticizing her for wanting to "perm" her hair? Wow. There are instructions and Dani asked Amy if she would help and Amy said yes. Dani didn't force Amy, she could've said no. People do this kind of thing every day, color their hair, perm it, relax it, and the like. It's really no big deal.

As far as Brit on BB1, she brought some hair dye. But there were other times where they used the money they earned to buy dye and BB gave it to them.

Why is this such a big deal???

Gina8642

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 12:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo - Why is it such a big deal that a bunch of bored board posters want to talk about perms?

It isn't like trivial matters haven't been disected to death here before. Notice a thread on Lisa's ability of pronoune a single word now has 157 posts. This one only has 40 some.

Nothing much is going on in the game now, people are just looking for something to talk about....

Bmh

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 12:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Wendo..people on this board seem to dissect Danielle and try to find any little way to critcize her..it's starting to get on my nerves..the same thing happened with Roddy..yes I took part in it..and am proud of it..I think bashing is good..but to a degree..I mean you are bashing Dani for wanting a friggin perm! gezz what is the world coming too?

Wendo

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 01:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gina, Just posting my opinion about a thread? That's allowed right?

IMO, I think it's a non issue and I'm posting my thoughts in the appropriate thread.

Just because my opinion differs from yours, why are you calling me out on it?

Gina8642

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 01:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm not Wendo. I'm just pointing out that Dani is not a unique victim on these boards of senseless dissection. If you feel called out because I responded to your post, I apologize.

Moderator

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 01:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani's perm is a no lye perm, she'll survive closing this thread now.

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