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TV ClubHouse: Archive: ARCHIVE THREE: Things I Need To Complain About (ARCHIVE): Archive through September 10, 2002

Goddessatlaw

Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 03:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I told 'em, Bernie. They ain't listen.

Bernie

Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 04:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP

Draheid

Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 04:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I feel compelled to complain that it appears Goddessatlaw is foresaking her 'Marriage Material' opportunities in order to watch the live show tonight!

Goddessatlaw

Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 04:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Draheid, dude told me a lawyer joke!!! He is SSSSOOOOOO in the doghouse right now. Got flowers earlier in the day. It didn't work, but they sure are pretty.

Costacat

Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 04:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL. Why do men never figure out that the flowers don't really help? But they sure are nice, and they sure shouldn't stop (or they'd be in an even bigger doghouse!).

Beagle

Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 04:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'mm all for a bigger doghouse!

Vanillarose

Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 05:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with Cindyluvsroddy (or is it cindyluvsjason ?) I don't really like the moderator-created threads. I think it stifles real opinions, real creativity and real thinking. I like to read diverse opinions, and I don't find them offensive in the least. I don't expect everyone to agree with me, nor do I agree with everyone here.

I guess I can see the reason behind them, though. Some people do get too heated or too attached to their own opinions. No offense, and that is not directed at anyone at all. Just a general statement.

Costacat

Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 05:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
<grin> Beagle!

Lurknomore

Friday, September 06, 2002 - 06:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok I have a complaint...I was out most of yesterday, got back in literally as BB was starting, came here and found all sorts of icony threads, which I DO NOT understand. They are moderated but not moderated? We can or can't say what we want in them? I then went to the thread announcing the threads, it confused me more so I simply stayed away from the board the rest of the night, something I've never done in 3 years of BB. But I was too tired to be that confused.

So can someone SIMPLY (you know like one line or two) explain what the heck those things are? For now I'm just personally gonna avoid anything with an icon cause my wittle brain just can't take it. When I left yesterday I liked this board a whole lot. I know we are just visitors here but we feel like a community to me. Did we really need so many changes that are so hard to figure out? Ok done complaining....more like asking actually.

Twiggyish

Friday, September 06, 2002 - 06:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lurk, at first I didn't like them much either, but, I'm getting used to them.
I see them more for keeping things organized and on topic.
Let's say you have a debate about someone like Roddy for example. Look for the red, scowling face and debate Roddy in there.
If you are a fan of Roddy, look for the happy face and be lovey dovey in there. See?!
We can still post any where else the same as before.

Costacat

Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 05:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I know there's a whole thread on this, but since this one was heading for never-never land...

I really really REALLY wanna complain about the FOTH "screech," that poor fallen tree, and the fact that there are four freakin' feeds on Jason and Amy talking about candles and nothing important and NO cams on the rest who are outside talking GAME talk!

Draheid

Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 12:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Arnold might have snuck into the control room and switched the labels from the FOTH music to the Test Tone button and the operators haven't figured it out yet!!! 1Khz tone stinks especially since it's a 'normal' level and the mic's are usually much lower!!

Tab

Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 12:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd like to complain that my chair has lost all its cushion since BB3 started! It's a new chair!!! Now that I got that out, I feel better ..emotionally (my behind sill suffers)...sigh.

Nimtu

Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 09:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I would like to complain that they are taking too long to do the GPOV comp. and also want to complain that every time I sign on and see the "Marcellus is Gone" thread I feel all happy till I remember that I can't take it literally :(

Lurknomore

Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 09:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LoL Tab...I came here to complain and you got me laughing. Onto my complaint (which I still have but I'm more amused at least).

I'm out most of the day. Lost $$ at the casino but not too bad and got to see Alabama free and had good dinner so got back in in relatively ok mood in time for this lovely FOTH accompanied by the screetch. Now, I just had an almost 2 hour ride home cause I took a friend home, I'm all ready to meet my BB addiction (which is now hitting withdrawel stages), and I get FOTH and deafness. HUMPHHHHHH!

Sheila494

Monday, September 09, 2002 - 11:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
way TOO many threads started on the board with very few posts..ridiculous threads started..also TOO many long and drawn out posts.

Kellirippa

Monday, September 09, 2002 - 11:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
speaking as someone who has never started a thread, I think that the moderators have done everything they can to control the number of threads, when they started the "iconed" threads it started an uproar. If you think a thread is ridiculous, don't go in, if enough people agree with you it will quickly drop off the board.

Lurknomore

Monday, September 09, 2002 - 11:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yup Kelli that's what I love about life and free will. If you don't like something...IGNORE IT or go away. And if something is too long just don't read it. Sorry Sheila, but my feelings is what one person finds "ridiculous" might be really interesting to someone else. If it's not your cup o tea just move on. But hope the venting made you feel better :)

Sheila494

Monday, September 09, 2002 - 12:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
lurk and kelli..i feel like people should be a little more considerate of the moderators..thats my opinion you dont have to agree.

Lurknomore

Monday, September 09, 2002 - 12:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Please don't take this the wrong way Sheila...but if the Moderators have something to say then I'll be glad to hear it from them. And when they say stuff I can't recall them ever being rude about folks posts just asking for consideration of certain things.

I think overall folks do a great job of policing themselves. And I really don't want to make this personal, but my feeling is a post like yours only insults folks instead of some positive suggestion. (But of course this IS the area to complain in, so you came to the right place to let it rip :))

Personally that is what upset me. It's just me and I know tone is VERY hard on here. Even as I type this i'm scared it's entering your "too long" area so I'll stop.

So in summation, I agree for respect and listening to those who should be policing this board...the mods :)

Crossfire

Monday, September 09, 2002 - 12:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I would like to comment on that actually.

I would also like to preface this with, I know what the moderators are trying to do, I know why they are doing it, and I agree with them for implementing the workarounds that they do.

However...(Just knew that was coming eh?) I feel like rambling on the subject.

One of the reasons that there needs to be a choke on the number of threads, is simply because the board is moderated. Moderation is a finite resource. A limited number of moderators cannot hope to moderate an unlimited number of posts. It does make moderation easier to congregate posts into as few threads as possible as that obviously keeps the thread count down, and helps eliminate duplicate posts so some unknown extent. This is all grand and cool, and since it is part of the charter of how this site works, I agree with it, and try to stay in the boundaries provided.

The other reason for the limits, and the more important one, is that the system has a tendency to explode. If it were up to me, my logical side would make me want to switch software to something that works better. Easy to say, not so easy to do, industrial strength message board software is not handed out for free on streetcorners. But there is another reason why I would not.

I can see the buttons on each and every message, and each and every thread that as far as I can tell, make moderation a piece of cake. In fact, it looks like an amazing system, and if I were to make such software, that is how I would do it too. A button on every message to edit move or delete it, and the same for the threads. I can see why they like the software despite its flaws.

In the end, I am not sure what puts more pressure on the site, the finite resource of amazing moderators, or the risk of the system blowing up.

When it comes to long messages though...thats what the scroll wheel is for. In my own opinion though, making small messages has little to do with being considerate to the moderators except you increase the chances you can slip in a giant bash and it will go undetected in big big boring rambler. :)

If you want to be considerate of the moderators with respect to long messages though, just be sure to make an attempt at being interesting unlike myself, since they have to read it anyway. :)


And as a last point, one thing I have seen that the moderators don't like...is users telling other users how to post. Just sayin ya know....

Twiggyish

Monday, September 09, 2002 - 12:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Makes sense to me and I read the whole thing!

Sheila494

Monday, September 09, 2002 - 01:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
crossfire..as for the long drawn out post that has nothing to do with respect for the mods..that is my own personal complaint and i am not the first to complain about this so i cant be totally wrong.
anyway..i guess i struck a few nerves here today.
so this will be my final post.

Crossfire

Monday, September 09, 2002 - 01:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Final post...on the topic, or final post period?

A little dramatic if the later. I don't think anyone was trying to push you away. I think we are all on the same side...trying to help the moderators.

Most of my post was giving some foundation and reasoning to your initial thought, believe it or not, it was mostly in your favor.

If you are planning to leave on account of my comment, I do hope you will reconsider, but I will respect your decision either way. :)

Observerx

Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 12:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I HATE feeling like a "Thread Killer"... :(
(...checking breath.... yeah, I brushed my teeth...)