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Grooch

Saturday, June 01, 2002 - 05:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
From EW.com

'Brother'-ly Love


Beware, ''Big Brother'' is watching -- again! Execs gambling on another ''Big'' season for the reality show, debuting in early July by Lynette Rice




'BIG' DEAL ''Big Brother 2'''s Will is betting on success for the reality series


Remember victorious Will, rapper Mike, and that knife-wielding Justin? Don't worry, neither do we. But exec producer Arnold Shapiro is convinced that America will return for yet another season of CBS' ''Big Brother'' (the show debuts in early July). ''Judging by the ratings of ''Survivor: Marquesas'' and ''The Bachelor,'' the appetite for reality programs is stronger than ever,'' Shapiro says. The number of applicants certainly bears that out: More than 5,000 people clamored to have their every move televised, up from 3,500 last year (Shapiro is currently screening 50 semifinalists in L.A. before narrowing them down to the 12 housemates). He promises big changes in season three: The house decor gets a makeover, background checks will be more thorough, and there'll be a better policy on informing the shut-ins about major world-news events (last year the houseguests never got a sense of the seriousness of the 9/11 attacks, and as Shapiro notes, ''The government keeps telling us another terrorist action is probable''). One other big switcheroo: ''We're going to include some twists that will make the houseguests rethink their preconceived strategies.'' Oooohhh, how ''Survivor'' of you.
(Posted:05/31/02)

Seamonkey

Saturday, June 01, 2002 - 09:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Amazing that it took this long to do good background checks, or realize that the way they handled 9/11 was WAY off base.

Twists are good unless they involve bags of rocks to decide things..

Ketchuplover

Saturday, June 01, 2002 - 12:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe they'll put a sea urchin in the pool :)

Grooch

Saturday, June 01, 2002 - 04:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Depending on what kind of houseguests they get this year, I might prefer an alligator. ;)

Ketchuplover

Sunday, June 02, 2002 - 11:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You have something against alligators? :)

Grooch

Sunday, June 02, 2002 - 12:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No. Just the HGs. LOL!

Micknrc

Friday, July 05, 2002 - 06:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
'Big Brother' chiefs warn of surprises

Thursday, July 04, 2002

By Rob Owen, Post-Gazette TV Editor

Take this as you will: For some, the return of CBS's "Big Brother" is a clarion call; for others, it's a dire warning.

The third edition of the voyeuristic show that puts contestants together in a house like human veal premieres at 9 p.m. Wednesday (additional episodes will air each week at 8 p.m. Saturdays and Thursdays).

Arnold Shapiro, who produced last year's edition (which proved more popular than the original), returns as executive producer alongside Allison Grodner. In a teleconference last week, the pair said a few twists in game play will be forthcoming, but they wouldn't say what those twists will be.

"The people coming in have worked it all out and think they have the perfect strategy, and all of them are in for a few surprises," Shapiro said.

"The new elements will indeed affect strategy and the playing" Grodner added.

"The other thing we're doing this year is, we're attempting to be a little tougher on these people," Shapiro said. That means more challenging competitions and the possibility of having to eat only peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for more than three days.

Last year's show found controversy early on when cast member Justin Sebik put a knife to the throat of another contestant. Although it was done in jest and he didn't intend any harm, it was still a violation of the show's rules and he was quickly evicted.

"The media jumped on that and it became our signature, but that occurred in eight seconds and we dealt with it immediately. ... That's a rule we have now," Shapiro said, joking. "No more holding a knife to the neck. That's absolutely forbidden."

But seriously, folks ... Shapiro and Grodner said they're more confident with the screening process this go-around.

"We have done everything humanly possible to know the backgrounds of these people because of everything we learned last year," Shapiro said. "Allison and I will talk with each house guest individually, and we will be very thorough about violence and threats of violence as things we absolutely will not tolerate."

This year's roster of contestants won't be announced until tomorrow on "The Early Show," but Shapiro said the contestants are champing at the bit to get into the redecorated "Big Brother" house.

"They're extremely competitive people," he said, "each of whom is so confident he or she will win because they have the advantage of watching last year. We think they're going to be smarter in playing the game."

Of course, with "Big Brother," even "smarter" is relative.

Car54

Friday, July 05, 2002 - 06:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
MICK!!!! Where you been girl? Missed you!

Micknrc

Friday, July 05, 2002 - 06:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Like you, Car, crazy days at work (can you contemplate-- 5 websites at one time?) But I've been keeping up here and there and posting a bit when I feel I have something original to add--it just isn't that often lately! So many new and returned faces--I feel a bit overwhelmed as all the BBkids know each other from last summer when I was a mere lurker-newbie!

Car54

Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 10:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
From the Indystar.com:

Marc D. Allan

'Big Brother 3' gets tough

The third season of reality show ups ante with secrets, tighter quarters and food rules.



July 07, 2002


Documentary-maker Arnold Shapiro took over the CBS show "Big Brother" last year, made numerous tweaks and turned it from a laughingstock of the reality TV universe into a summertime success. So when "Big Brother" returns this week (9 p.m. Wednesday, WISH 8), viewers will find the game "95 percent intact."

"We have put in just enough twists and turns to keep the houseguests on their toes," he said in a telephone interview from his Southern California office, where he was putting the finishing touches on plans for the show's 12-week run. It will be seen at 9 p.m. Wednesdays and 8 p.m. Thursdays and Saturdays.

The 12 strangers whose every move will be captured on camera will be sharing living space in a redecorated house with three bedrooms -- one nice, one "less nice" and one "really less nice." In a couple of cases, contestants will have to share a double bed.

There will be more food- related competitions where the losers end up eating nothing but peanut butter and jelly for a week or more, and "at least three other twists that are going to affect people's strategies and are going to be surprises to them once they get in the house," Shapiro said. He declined to elaborate.

In addition, several houseguests have secrets they may or may not reveal during their time in the house. This group includes an atheist and a deeply religious person, creating the possibility of great debate and friction.

"The thinking is to be a little tougher on them this year, to continue to utilize what worked, to freshen it up a little bit -- much like 'Survivor' does each year -- with a few new things," said Shapiro, whose title is executive producer.

"Consistently, the thinking is, put a group of people in the house who are highly competitive, where each person can look you in the eye and say, 'I am winning the money.' "

Some 5,500 people auditioned for the third installment of "Big Brother," up from 3,400 last year. The winner takes home $500,000.

But while it may look easier than most reality shows -- no foraging for food on a deserted island and battling the elements like "Survivor," no carrying out difficult or dangerous tasks like "The Amazing Race" or "The Mole" -- "Big Brother" may be more mentally taxing. Houseguests live without television, telephone, computer, reading material, clocks and contact with the outside world for up to three months. (The participants vote out one of their own each week.)

Shapiro has a history of capturing the lives of people in confined spaces. In 1978, he made "Scared Straight!" the landmark documentary in which prisoners told troubled kids about the horrors of prison life. He said "Big Brother" contains some of the same elements.

"When you're in prison, a confinement mentality develops," he said. "And this is true in the 'Big Brother' house, too. Small things become big things. Small emotions become big emotions. Everything is exaggerated. Ordinarily in the outside world, where somebody would emerge as your best friend maybe over a period of six months to a year, here your best friend emerges in six days.

"And everything is so emotionally charged. So we're sitting on the outside and you quickly come to the realization that you can't understand what it's like to be in that house unless you are in that house."

He saw last year's contestants transform in that environment, with Shannon Dragoo changing from all-American girl to villain, and Nicole Nilson Schaffrich, last year's runner-up, turning from level-headed to frazzled.

Pressure and restricted movement do strange things to people, Shapiro said.

"I couldn't say for sure what I would be like," he said. "I could say: 'I'm going to be me. I'm going to be my ethical, honest, low-key self.' But who knows, after six and seven weeks of having been betrayed by somebody and (having) plots hatched against me and being deprived of food except for peanut butter and jelly? I might become a villain. That's what so sociologically intriguing about this concept."

Car54

Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 10:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I looked around and did not see a link to this article anywhere, Ryn, sorry if this is a duplicate, but I thought Kent gives a LOT of interesting details about the entry into the BB house.

Kent's Article

Theowl

Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 10:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh Man, Car!! I was excited before,but that article really put the icing on the cake!! I can't wait for the fun to begin!! Just think~~

3 DAYS AND 7 HOURS AND 12 MINUTES!!! HOOO HOOOO!!!!

Lslb

Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 01:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for both of those articles, Car. Just getting us more and more excited!

Which two HG do y'all think are the atheist and deeply religious ones?

Faerygdds

Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 03:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No idea, but I can tell you from some of the debates I've run through on here that relious ties run deep and it may indeed cause problems. Of course, that depends primarily on the participants in the discussion. Here we manage to be diplomatic and respect each other, but as the article states.. little things get blown up in the BB House, so it COULD turn out to be a HOT issue... ought to be intersting to say the least.. :)

I can't wait... is it Wednesday yet? :)

Shadowkat

Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 03:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here is a hysterical article from Elite TV remembering BB2.

Welcome to ElitesTV Live Feeds

Well, here we are, about to embark on another fun filled summer of Big Brother. As I prepare for spending too much time at my computer, ignoring household duties, and trying to find creative ways to get off work – I find myself remembering all the fun we had at ElitesTV last year.

I came to ETV halfway thought Big Brother 2. I was reading updates at another site that found itself plagued with trolls. In my search for troll free live feeds, I found the following post that had my howling and brought me back.

Mishi - Tuesday, August 07, 2001 - 03:05 pm
Will's hair.....he is going to have to change his slogan from Half man Half Amazing to Half Man Half Dead Gorilla on my Head.
That’s right folks, its Mishi’s fault I’m here and now you’re stuck with me. Naturally, Mishi isn’t the only live feeder we have that’s a riot. Who can forget this Realguy post:

Thursday, September 06, 2001 - 10:36 am
Hardy gets up, puts on a white baseball cap, and goes to the loo. He flushes and exits past the invisible sink. Using his peepee hands, he takes a cold drink from the communal water cooler, which congeals the phlegm in his throat. He horks a few times and goes back to the bedroom. He removes his hat and gets back into bed.

Or VinceG2:

Wednesday, July 18, 2001 - 01:21 am
1:09am
Cam 3, and we see Shannon laying in bed, with her eyes open..looks like she's thinking. I can hear someone (Will?) snoring.
RP is pretty hosed, as I have to connect via file/loaction.
Cam 2, and Will is brushing Shannon's hair out of her eyes.
Cam 4, nothing to see here..move along. Just Krista sleeping. Someone's snoring here too, but not Krista, because she's moving around in her bed like she can't sleep. There's some weird noise in the background! It must be someone snoring, but I swear, it sounds like a yak is dying! Oh my.
Anyhow, now everyone knows they didn't miss anything through the night, so I'll get on outta here.

Crochetmom:

Thursday, July 26, 2001 - 04:50 am
All is quiet there on Walton Mountain.
No one moving. I didnt' even hear anyone snoring!!!

Digilady:

Monday, July 09, 2001 - 08:27 pm
C3 (now that they let us watch again)! Now Justin is talking about a spanish chick. She was 17, and the story goes on. Mike is grinning. Hardy is listening about half-bored. Him and his friends and this chick go down to the basement of this bar, really nice, smoking joint, they have large screen tv. So he starts drinking, and then he takes the glass and smashes them against the wall. In a country club no less. His friends all thought he was nuts, including the girl.

He also says he breaks one thing in the house a week. His mom’s antiques. This guy is a sicko. He’s dating 3 chicks and… back to front door!!!!! But I do recall they live close to each other. Makes it easy.

IF I have to PAY for this I want to HEAR it already!!!!!

The Houseguests were out main target of puns during live feeds. Who can forget moments and one liners such as:

Breaking News
Lissajo here to report that Monica is out of the chair. I repeat Monica is out of the chair. This is not a warning. Monica is really out of the chair. She has headphones on and is doing laps around the backyard while Will and Nicole do the whole bickersons bit. She's walking at a fairly good clip. Please stay tuned to ETV for further developments. Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

Kent doing an Elvis impersonation...he needs to stop. (Mishi)

Will and his poofy hair talking... telling some dumb @ss story. (Mishi)

Someone needs to turn on a mic, someone needs batteries... Will needs a haircut and Krista needs a boot up her @ss. (Mishi)

Bunky just put on MC Hammer pants.....like he was gonna hide the fact that he was gay originally. Riiiiight. My stream just timed out, what is up with that crap? (Mishi)

Vanity Will is they name. Shaving your balls? Lord is thy God! Mike says. Monica says I have dignity and pride in here, and out. She will talk to anyone. (Digilady)

Cam 1: Welcome to Rebuffer City. Population: Mishi (Mishi)

Will comes out naked. I'M BLIND!!! (VinceG2)

Now Will's on to Billy Idol's Eyes WIthout A Face, and Violent Femmes Blister In The Sun. I'm snapping CDs one by one as Will ruins them for me. (Peapod)

Cam2 - Better version of cam1. But as usual, we barely have audio. (why do I even bother checking this camera?) (Lissajo)

Will now explaining glucose, fructose and sucrose. I feel like I'm back in nutrition class. I didn't like it then either. (Mishi)

Hey, Hardy's doing math. Sounds like it's related to weight lifting though so I'm not sure that counts as real math. (Lissajo)

Will is now in the house singing louder than ever. Can someone please send a banner telling him to SHUT UP and change his shorts. If we can't have both...just have him shut up. (Hookedonfeeds)

Krista asking someone what makes you horny...evidentially she read where the sun does something to make you never active. ALERT ALERT ALERT...WILL SAID HE HAD NEVER HEARD OF THAT!!! (Mishi)

Now inside with the BG game...Nicole and Shannon walking around in bikinis. Welcome to Baywatch BB. (Mishi)

They are talking movies and are pretty excited about it. Shannon should quit shopping in the children's department for her bathing suits... surely they have bigger suits where she lives. (Mishi)

Now we are treated again to the lovely Front Of The House with the Lovely Music. It's Lovely. gag. (VinceG2)

Speaking of Front of the House, we spent much time discussing FOTH (aka Front Of The House). If you’re new to Big Brother, get used to this term. Unfortunately we have to use it a lot. Some of my favorite FOTH moments:

Sunday, July 08, 2001 - 12:41 pm
Quick update.....the front door is still there. I repeat-- the front door is still intact. (Mishi)

Sunday, July 08, 2001 - 01:30 pm
Now they are discussing different tennis rackets... quite the riveting conversation, but it isn't the front door so I'm not bitching. (Mishi)

Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 07:57 pm
New update.....
Young man, longish dark hair in blue t-shirt misting the other bushes. He seems to be doing a very good job. I think I will drop Arnold a note and tell him how much we appreciate him interspersing gardening/landscaping tips in with the feeds so we are sure to get our moneys worth. What a great guy. (Mishi)

Friday, July 27, 2001 - 04:42 pm
Ok, there is a guy at FOTH watering the area down. He has what appears to be a tshirt on, and is standing there with the hose. He needs to go to the birdbath and fill it up. But he is facing the wrong way. And now he shut the water off and is gathering up the hose. He turns to the side and starts watering there.
I'm still hoping he'll put water in the birdbath..maybe a bird who can't sense evil will come and swim in the bath. (from VinceG2)

Friday, July 27, 2001 - 04:46 pm
Ok, the guy is leaning now, and has his legs crossed while watering. Now he is scratching his butt. Aren't you glad to have paid for the feeds?
Still hasn't given water to the birdbath, but he's re-watering the front again..guess the area near the windows aren't going to be watered much by him. Sure glad I don't pay the water bill.
And we're back! (from VinceG2)

Thursday, August 16, 2001 - 07:21 pm
cam 1 – FOTH
cam 2 - FOTH (ooh, without the music. I sort of like this one)
back to cam 3 - yep FOTH. Must have been something way to exciting for us to see with the repair of the pool floaty. (from Lissajo)

Friday, August 17, 2001 - 02:12 pm
Now FOTH. Bastards.
Doesn't look like we will get to see this one. Have I mentioned today that I hate Arnold Shapiro and his little production company too? (from Mishi)

Saturday, August 18, 2001 - 11:30 am
FOTH. Still no water for the birdies in the birdbath. Not that they'd come anyways.

I think another rock was taken. I'll have to count them all. We have plenty of time. Arnold sure doesn't censor the feeds. We are allowed unrestricted access to the front door.

Hmm..it looks like 40 or so rocks on the lower right side..at least, that can be seen from this feed. The ones at the top are too far too cout, but that area also is not completely filled.

I wonder what the pathway on the top goes to. Is that a access door for BB to get inside while the HGs are in lockdown outside?

The music is playing..it is a looped tape, of aprox 57 seconds. Who'd have thought less then a minute's worth of music would be so grating on one's nerves? If someone comes over to your house, and you can't get rid of them, try playing this looped music. They will be gone really fast, I promise you. (from Vince G2)

Saturday, August 18, 2001 - 04:07 pm
Ok...Would LOVE to post here but we have a great view of the FOH...
Hey Vince....stop doing rock inventory...it looks like we are missing a bush also.... (from Countess)

Friday, August 31, 2001 - 01:20 pm
Monica comes out of DR. Time for Food Competition
But first a live feed message from FOTH.
Monica getting everyone hyped.
And another message from FOTH
They're going outside.
N - you've got to be f'ng kidding me
H - I don't see protein powder (YEA!!!!)
W - Hey Bill - where's my shoes
BB Bill - get them out of the dryer.
And a third message from FOTH. FOTH is a very important sposer of BB Live Feeds.
Shop Til you Drop (AAHHHHHH #@*$$$4 - rebuffering)
If a food item falls and hits the ground it can't be picked up.
Whatever food dropped is out for the week.
Have to run a course.

FOTH is paying big bucks to sponser this competion because its back for a long message. (from Lissajo)

Then there are those times when real life just flat out gets in the way of live feeding:

Monday, September 10, 2001 - 05:00 pm

Okay - so I've answered the dryer, folded clothes, moved second load from washer to dryer, and taken potty break with handwash.....
And nothing has changed in the BB House. N & W are still working out. We are sitll inside Monica's suitcase.
Lissa has to stop as hard to type with 15 lbs red point siamese in way.
Monica called to Dr. (from Lissajo)

Friday, July 13, 2001 - 05:55 pm
Nicole with the unholy trinity. She tells them they should think for a few days. Shannon asks who they are voting for. Is Nicole playing them? Please god.

Shannon says Kent won a f*cking car!! Will says Kent hasn't lifted a finger. Nicole says she has to know that she isn't going to be bent over. Will trying to be smooth.

Shannon says that Krista is untouchable and if Nicole votes with them then she is untouchable too. Nicole says if they f*ck with her she will go ballistic. Will says they want them to be the final 5. Will says he can live with any of the 5 winning, but can't take losing to the guy wiht the bow in his head.

Nicole says she can flip a coin, both of them saved her.

Oops, I forgot my daughter, gotta go. Will just said that Mike and Shannon are genuinely good people!! Arrrggghhhhh (from Mishi)

Saturday, August 18, 2001 - 01:15 pm
My kittens are far more interesting that this right now. Smokey is biting Ashley so hard, that Ash is emitting sounds like a squeaky toy. Occasionally they forget that I'm not playing with them, and I get bitten as well. (from Misha)

Thursday, August 16, 2001 - 02:34 pm
It looks like a big storm coming here. Are any feeders out there that can take over? (from Hookedonfeeds)

So be sure to check ElitesTV for live feeds that provide fun, amusement and downright irreverence.


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Lissajo

Sunshinemiss

Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 04:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ha, good fun, the LFP'ers add a lot... here and elsewhere. Thanks for the teaser. Can't wait for it all to start again!

Sage

Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 04:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
From the bio's I've read, I would lay odds that Jason is the deeply religious person in the house. How do I know this? For his music preferences, he listed a group that I am familiar with, called Delirious, and they are a christian rock group from England. I used to listen to their CD's long before they made their way to the States.

Moderator

Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 04:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As a reminder, we ask that everyone please include a direct link along with any article posted from another site so that the article can be verified and posters can go directly to the source if they desire. If a link is not provided with the article, it will have to be removed.

Thank you! :)


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Shadowkat

Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 04:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry moderator! The link to the ElitesTV artilcle is

http://www.elitestv.com/NewsPub/Stories/2002/07/07/10260731279.html

Ketchuplover

Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 05:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought digilady was a member here?

Shadowkat

Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 05:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe she was cheating on us last year....hmmmm....what kind of torture should we cook up for her!! LOL

Ryn

Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 06:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Digi is a member here (last I looked) but she is one of the top dogs over on Elites, so you will find here there much more than here.

Micknrc

Monday, July 08, 2002 - 05:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oops. Sorry mods.

here's a link to above Post-Gazette article...


Big Brother Chief Warns of Surprises

Gail

Monday, July 08, 2002 - 06:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Micknrc, yours was fine - you had listed the newspaper and the author. The link is better though. :) Thanks!

In the case of an article from another Big Brother website like ours, the link needs to be posted. Last year, we had a couple of other Big Brother websites email us because some of their articles were posted here without a link. Likewise, we found other sites using our live feeds as their own or in articles without giving credit to us.

In the case of an online newpaper article or an online site for CBS, either include the link or at least list the source and the author so they get credit.

We want to be able to look up an article if it is posted here if necessary. Besides giving credit where credit is due, we like to verify the information so that people here know that what is posted here is somewhat reliable.

Delilah

Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 12:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I found an interesting article written by Kent about the new HGs, who knew Kent had such a sense of humor?! You can read it here:

Kent's advice to Gerry

Also BBLive has some interesting interviews with most of the BB2 HGs and their family members and friends, Nicole's was fascinating (ahem!) You can check those out here:
BB2 Houseguest interviews


Also, so far, only Jason has a website that has yet to be updated, you can check it out here:
Jason's website

Enjoy! I sure hope Roddy gets his website up soon!

WooooHooo, only 1 day, 4 hours, 42 minutes and 10 seconds left until the premiere! I am so excited!!