What is wrong with playing to win?
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Niceguy

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 08:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm not seeing where you're going with this Wendo. Josh is long gone.
Lisa will not get Gerry's vote unless it is a vote against Dani. Chiara has said 'Dani is in for a very rude awakening.'
She's nuked her relationships with people that originally admired her. She went too far and Dani supporters don't seem to want to acknowledge that. The recurring phrase,"Its part of the game."

The jury doesn't seem to be seeing it that way.
Danielle must think she has the argumentative skills of Johnnie Cochran.

Wendo

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 09:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nice, it's fun to speculate, but until the final show is over, I think everyone's opinions hold some validity. Even the ones that disagree with mine and yours.

If the evicted HG's are going to point their fingers at Dani and hold her personal comments against her. Fine, then she loses. But then they should also take said same finger and point it at themselves. None of them are clean. That's all I'm saying. Because, when it comes right down to it, they all, in one form or another, made disparaging remarks about each other.

They're holding Dani to a higher standard than themselves.

The jury doesn't see it that way because God forbid they admit to themselves that they could be just as mean and ugly too.

Wendo

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 09:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nice, btw, if it's Lisa vs Dani in the final two, there's NO WAY I see Gerry voting for Lisa because of her pedophile comment. No way.

Lianu

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 09:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
To Quote "Letmeinthere'

I've read most of these threads about Dani and have seen the same people jump into a topic to defend Dani. That's fine but I have something to ask...

How come when Dani trashes evicted HG's as well as mocking Amy (while she's still living in the house)its acceptable to some people here?

However, when another poster comments on their opinion of Dani there is this big outcry that its not fair to say these things? Sometimes the post is so long I lose interest and go to the next one..
I so very agree.................Sorry

Everyone has an opinion and I'm glad they do or else this world would be pretty boring. However, there is no need to go mental just because someone has a different opionion of Dani than you do. I don't believe anyone has to justify why they don't like Dani. That is their feelings towards her and they are entitled to that. If you like Dani then that is great, don't get mad at other posters just because they don't.
Its nothing personal, just business.

Missy2

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 09:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think sometimes people overdramatize what is going on this house. I try to stay away from those topics and if I do read them I try to remember its all a matter of opinion. Its a game, its entertainment, anything goes. If you don't like how its played then I think maybe you should reconsider watching.

Lianu

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 12:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Once you can accept the universe as matter expanding into nothing that is something, wearing stripes with plaid comes easy.
--Albert Einstein

Breathe in....breathe out.

Breathe in....breathe out.

Letmeinthere

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 11:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Lianu.. hahaha

Jimmer

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 11:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I seriously doubt that any of the evicted houseguests will make a speech about how they lied, broke promises, bashed etc., and that therefore they think that it's okay that Danielle did it as well. Few people see themselves as others see them.

Kappy

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 04:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Grits: "What is wrong with playing to win". Nothing. If you didn't want the final prize ~ why be there?

Wendo: "None of them are clean" ~ Amen.

When one is bitter about having been voted out of the house, it is much less painful for them if they can at least declare themselves a better person for having played the game with integrity, even when it's not true. You will never hear an evicted hg own up to their own ill behavior.

Last year, I didn't think there was a chance in hell of the jury voting for Will but yet they did. So yes, out here, we're upset with Dani's style of play. But can we absolutely predict the jury? I'm not so sure.

The #1 reason most people here would never apply to be on this show is because we would want to do it the way we live our everyday lives and this is not a game where you can do that.

Letmeinthere ~ in reply to why people jump in to defend Dani ~ I don't feel a need to defend her when she is obviously doing the bashing described. What I do feel irksome about is that for a couple of weeks now, some are acting like every other hg is an angel and Dani is the ONLY one to say such horrible things. So NOT true. And quite frankly, I can't help but think that it's bitter Chichi fans doing it (hiding behind a wall now before the s---- flies).

Crossfire

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 05:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hmmmm.....I knew Will was going to win. :)

Sanfranjoshfan

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 05:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kappy - I still maintain that most of last year's jury did not vote *for* Will.....they voted *against* Nicole. No matter who had been up against Nicole at the end, she would have lost.

I was not a Will fan at all....yet I cheered when Will won the big bucks because that meant that Nicole LOST. As I recall, by the time the final episode aired, that result was expected and it was no big surprise to anyone.....except maybe Nicole.

Kappy

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 06:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, Sanfran ~ I agree with what you're saying about voting 'against Nicole' last year but I'm no where near the point of thinking of Danielle as anything like Nicole. Nicole faked crying after every single eviction which got so old you couldn't stand watching it. Nicole at least saved it for Marcellas (fake or not). Nicole had continuous nervous breakdowns whereas Danielle is maintaining pretty well. My point is that I don't think of this group as anything like last year's group and I really don't think we can predict what they are going to do. But it is fun to put each of our speculations out there. I always enjoy your point of view, by the way! Even if we don't agree on Dani! :0)

Lombadier

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 07:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree, Wendo. Gerry will NEVER vote for Lisa, no matter who is against her in the final. And frankly, I don't blame him one bit.