Archive through September 11, 2002
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I want to discuss how Dani claims she needs the money badly:
Archive through September 11, 2002
Bigbrotherbelle | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 01:40 pm     "Wasn't Dani standing in front of a house w/ hubby and her 2 girls? When I saw that i was impressed at the house she had and even commented about how nice i thought it was! Anyone else see this?" Yes, but she's mentioned she did the filming of getting her key at her parents' house, so I'm guessing that's her parents' house. |
Draheid | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 01:41 pm     From the FWIW department, Jason NEEDS the money too. He as stated that he brought library books to read in the house which he wasn't allowed to have. Now they are overdue and he'll have some pretty hefty fines to pay when he does finally return them. That's a good reason to want to win, isn't it? Ok, now I'll take my tongue out of my cheek and smile! |
1kid4us | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 01:42 pm     Thanks bb-belle... I did not know that. I don't get live feeds so I don't get to hear all the things they discuss. I just get BB take on what goes on. |
Kittykatt | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 01:43 pm     (Ikid) that was her mothers home, she said on the feeds that she told them them to film at her moms house because she had a nice home. <M> |
Costacat | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 01:46 pm     Costacat is thinking people are a little cranky today? <BIG GRIN> <JOKING> 1. Danielle keeps bringing it up. Because she does, it's fair game. I, personally, think it's a bully tactic ("poor poor pitiful me") and I do think most of the HGs see thru it. At least, I hope so. 2. Yes, this has been discussed before. Probably in several different threads, not necessarily appropriately named for said discussion. So? We can continue to discuss this again, yes? There are new people on this board -- probably daily -- who did not participate in previous chats, yes? |
Costacat | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 01:47 pm     P.S. Just because some of the HGs come from money, doesn't meant that that HG *has* money. Just a thought from the other side of the rim... |
Draheid | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 01:59 pm     There was a thread that just recently went into the archives, How can we get the jury to see Dani is not as bad off as she says? There was also a thread titled ***DANI NEEDS TO WIN TO BUY A HOUSE***??NOT!!!! which had 230 postings and is now located in the TVCH Big Brother III zipped archives. Just in case anyone is interested. JMO - FWIW |
Jeeny98 | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:05 pm     Dani is renting a condo, she does not have a house. But it is a two story condo, and it is nice. It cost around 1500 month rent. That's a lot. But it's really good in that part of the country. I know it cost loads to live in some cities. In Boston, where I'm from you don't get much for $1500 rent. No more than a simple 2 bedroom apartment. But, I live in Cincinnat now, and for $1500 month I could get a delux apartment in the sky! lol My son lives in SanFran, and he pays $850 for a slummy apartment, in a bad neighborhood. Here, $850 would get you a really nice 2 or 3 bedroom. Or a nice little house. |
Kalekona | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:08 pm     she could just go without glasses and food and how about she walk everywhere and get rid of the car. I think your right she should not have any perks in life should be living in low rent and getting food stamps so she could save for that house! Some of you people are <> in your nit picking. I have never heard Dani say she is living below the poverty level just that she came on to win the money for a house- with two kids and living where she does the cost of living is much higher than say where Amy lives. The contacts- I wear the disposable lenses they cost as much as regular ones when you facter in cleaning supplies- I can't wear glasses, my eyes will not adjust and the contacts also lessen the strain on your eyes so your vision doesn't change or get worse as fast as with glasses. We have digital cable because my husband needs the speed on the internet conection for his work, where I live getting the whole package was cheaper than getting basic cable here and paying for the internet conection someplace else. Who cares what kind of TV she has or that she has implants or anything else. The point is you don't know that the TV wasn't a gift or anything else- to sit there pick apart the way a person lives simply because she is on a show to win money- which they all are but I don't see anyone crtisizing the others for their motivation, and it's not like Amy or Roddy ever NEEDED the money. <M> |
Draheid | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:13 pm     *Draheid* takes Kalekona by the hand and heads over to the Return of the Zen Thread for a while!  |
Kittykatt | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:15 pm     Kaleoka my point was she kept on stressing it over and over and over again how she would break if she went home without the money that was my point! <M> |
Ericka1012 | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:16 pm     Dani herself has made this money and her family an issue from the very beginning...She has the nerve to try to make the hg's feel guilty in one breath about how much her family needs the money and turns around and tells them about her children that go to private schools, private lessons, how she paid cash for a car...then turns around and crys poor. The problem is the people in that house seem to come from upper middle class families...with the exclution of Roddy who's family MIGHT have a bit more money...have alway lived in a home that thier parents (or themselves) have owned...Even Amy who owns her own condo got it because her father helped her out. They think that is normal to have those things...since Dani hasn't they buy into the "I'M SO POOR" act of hers... We discuss it because SHE has made it an issue...most of us would be glad that someone that could really use it if she didn't BEAT IT TO DEATH...she bashes people and puts in the plug "Oh I couldn't face my kids if I didn't win" No, I a middle class white single parent don't feel sorry for her...No I don't care if she thinks her family deserves the money...I don't care if her kids go to private schools or college (My son went to college and as stated I was a single parent)...I'm sure she'll figure out that too... I care that she has USED her family as a game ploy to get sympathy...I was so excited when Roddy figured it out...but was disappointed him that he didn't call her on it...it might have not helped him to stay but the VERY YOUNG people left in that house might have figured her out and wouldn't have stood for it anymore. I care that she might win the game because of it and make that from this point on Reality TV will have that as an under lying theme. I care that the producers have edited this show to look so untruthful to the TV only views that if this becomes a tie and we get to vote...She'll win just like she won the America Choice of the video... Yes, I care...but I've been done with Dani for a long time...Right along with Marcy... |
Gidget | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:22 pm     I am asking this question in all seriousness. What is poor? How much income is poor? There are a lot of people who make minimum wage or near it. I consider that poor. What is middle class? I consider a two income family between $60 and $120K middle class. Over $120K, if you can't be comfortable financially then YOU have issues about what you think you deserve in life. What is comfortable? A nice house. Doesn't have to be new. Doesn't have to be in the 1/2 million range. Could even be a little run down. It's called a fixer upper. Occasional perks, maybe lessons for the kids or Catholic school (technically private but cheaper than "exclusive" private). A get away vacation once or twice a year. Maybe a "big" vacation, air, hotel, car or cruise every 3 or 4 years. College fund for the kids. Nice clothes not necessarily all designer labels or this year's design for that matter. Decent reliable car to go to work in. Keep car until cost of repairing it doesn't make sense anymore. At first I looked at some of the inconsistency's in Dani's money stories. I think Dani goes to too many movies. Her expectations of what she needs/wants are probably not in line with what she has achieved financially so far and not in line with any preparations she has made to advance financially in the future. But make no mistake she is not alone in this thinking. That is one of the reasons why so many people have debt problems. Certainly not the only reason but one of them. Pay for a car cash. You betcha girl. Once you have established credit you should only use it often enough to make sure you maintain your credit rating to get mortgages and such. Otherwise why carry debt? If you can get a better deal on a car by paying cash... well it is self explanatory to me. Do I get basic or premium cable? Depends. Maybe I spend a lot of time at home. Or maybe I'd rather have basic and spend a night out at a club. My choice. I work all week. Should I wait until I'm 90 to have a little enjoyment? Should I save for long range goals? You bet. But I could be dead tomorrow... there are no guarantees. I thought I was going to die a few months ago. My only regret in the ambulance was leaving behind my loved ones in pain. I had found out in a very abrupt way that my life was okay and if it was over I had had a pretty good run. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:24 pm     She is the only remaining HG with children...she uses her motherhood to make it seem like she deserves to be taken to the final 2 with each and every other remaing HG. Her "need" for the money is just more bs...she just wants the others to feel guilty for possibly snatching a home away from her children. (She's already let them know that winning the money will be the only way she will bring another beautiful baby into this world.) Now, if she doesn't win, it will cost her a new baby AND her current babies a home! Sheesh... C'mon....she is doing fine financially. Her whining is just smoke and mirrors to gain sympathy. Personally, I think she has overdone it....even Marcellas sees that's she overdone it and he is the least likley to grasp the obvious out of everyone there! |
Kittykatt | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:28 pm     Oh and I also was going to make this point on my original first post but forgot, Dani has stated before how she didnt think Roddy or kiki deserved to win over her because they came from parents with money and their intentions on what to do with the money if they won it, now im neither a roddy or kiki fan but IMO i started dislaiking Dani's ways when she thought she deserved the prize money more then others in there!!!! |
Kalekona | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:38 pm     I have felt Danis' stressing the "i can't go home and face them" was more about disappointing her family than not getting the money- I have three kids, my husband was laid of by boeing 3 1/2 years ago and spent 2 1/2 years in school <paid for by the company> only to graduate and end up working for a caterer- We are so far below the poverty line that I can't even see it, if anyone should be insulted by Dani's lifestyle and moaning about the money for her family I'd think it's safe to say it's me. I'm not. Nor do I fault her for sending her children to priviate school <where she lives it's a pretty good idea> Like I said I have cable but we don't go to the movies or out to dinner. If you have to live without any pleasure in your life at all because of money than what's the point? Would I love to win 500,000 and buy a house? you bet and would any of you rather continue to make house payments or own the home outright? Rather have the house you love or settle for something "in your budget" if you didn't have to? That's how I view Dani's "need" for the money to get her house. |
Yuhuru | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:43 pm     Y'all are killing me! I'm cracking up. No I don't think Dani needs the money. She's playing a game. Anybody who needs the money can't leave a job and get on a Reality TV show. With that said, I'm glad none of you are my neighbors. I'd hate you all counting my money. For instance I have digital cable ( on 1 TV) and I don't pay $80 per month, and I have a REALLY BIG TV that we got used from a friend. I live in Georgia where housing is really reasonable, but if you saw my home in a picture you might think I was rolling in dough. By the way, some people are able to send their kids to private school via a scholarship or state aid. And some children take gymnastics or music, etc. at community centers from people who volunteer their time. I'm not saying that this is Dani's situation 'cause I don't claim to know her situation. What I'm hearing from y'all is what the urban community refers to as playa hatin' <mod> |
Meggieprice | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:53 pm     Yuhuru- I am with you. We really can't judge any of these people and whether they deserve to win. Fact is, whoever wins, deserves to win. Dani has her reasons and so do the others. As you said- if you like Dani, her reasons and methods wont bother you...if you dislike Dani then everything she says and does is wrong. |
Kittykatt | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:57 pm     (Yuhuru) Im by no means jealous of what dani has not by the least! I live in california (near dani) we make about 150k together are kids also go to private school and we have everything we need along with two healthy lovely children! I think IMO you have missed the point some of us posters where stressing! |
Kalekona | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:07 pm     Yuhuru you said it best!!! Kittykat your post did sound exactly like what yuhuru discribed. Maybe that's not what you meant but that is exactly how I read it or it wouldn't have set me off. |
Costacat | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 04:02 pm     Yuhuru, I never said OR implied that I am "plain mad because I don't have all of the material things that Dani does, and I made all these sacrifices, blah, blah". I do have all the material things that Danielle has. I have not had to make any sacrifices. I am very happy with my life. However, I am also very honest. But there is a world of difference between WANT and NEED. I agree with Gidget to some extent. I think Danielle has some idealized idea of what "upper class" is and is playing to that ideal. Her constantly saying "I am classy" also adds to that belief (I swear, I do NOT walk around saying that I am classy). Danielle clearly has the money for a downpayment for a new house. She is not going to be homeless, nor will her children. If she does not win the money, her family will not starve, nor will they be "forced" to use public transportation (granted, BART is way better than what we've got down at this end of California). NO ONE on this show HAS TO WIN THE MONEY TO SURVIVE. Everyone on this show WANTS to win. Hello? Who wouldn't? But playing the poor pitiful me my family will be homeless and starving card is just plain wrong! In my opinion, to which I am entitled. Your opinion may differ, and you are entitled. |
Costacat | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 04:04 pm     By the way, I don't think most of the people who have a problem with Danielle's "strategy" would have so much of an issue if she merely said she "wants to win because it'd be nice to have the extra money" rather than she "needs to win so she can buy a house". Semantics, and your own perception, change reality. |
Woodpecke® | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 04:22 pm     No one cares who needs the money. Period. |
Squaredsc | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 04:30 pm     i think that some of the above posts are the reason that the previous discussion of dani's finances was dropped. it got ugly as this is starting to get ugly. yuhuru, great post. as they say, don't hate the playa, hate the game. |
Yuhuru | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 04:38 pm     I'm still laughing! If the shoe doesn't fit... |
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