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TV ClubHouse: Archive: ARCHIVE THREE: 9-11 and the pledge: Archive through September 11, 2002

Kalekona

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 01:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Do the hg know that since they are in California legally they can't say "under God"? Will BB say something or just let it slide? Since they are so careful about everything else that could get them sued I was just wondering, since the guy that has pushed the whole issue is so sue happy to begin with.

Mystery

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 01:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The decision applied to public schools and the judge who made the ruling put off its implementation pending a full review of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.

I'm interested in why you'd bother to start a new thread on a subject that you don't seem to know much about.

Amac

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 01:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought that was on hold pending review.

Costacat

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 01:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually, this is not true. There is no law that says you cannot say "under God" in California. In fact, I just saw a local Patriot Day celebration broadcast from Balboa Park, and yup. They said "under God" during the Pledge of Allegiance.

No ruling has been returned on the lawsuit. It was filed only (and actually, the mom counterfiled to remove her daughter's name).

Itsallgood

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Made my own thread for this but they seem to want it here so I will post it here.

They are talking about saying the Pledge out by the Flag and Lisa said "Can We Reherse It First"??

I wonder just what this girl DOES know????

Crazydog

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't fault Lisa. I haven't said the pledge since 8th grade, it's been years. If I knew I were going to be on TV saying it I'd probably be a little wary of screwing it up.

Lyn

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well yesterday they weren't sure how may stars were on your flag...maybe all the PB&J is getting to them :)

Itsallgood

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well I'm 40 something and that is just something I would never forget and I don't say it often.

Crossfire

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wish we had kept the other thread on this as it is more accurate, and asks a valid question where this one is inaccurate, and is really just out of scope and begging me to get into a religious discussion on a day where I don't want to get into it out of compassion for the others here.

Mystery

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, this one could go "out of the house" and we could go back to Itsallgood's original point.

I guess Lisa might figure that it's better safe than sorry when it comes to public speaking.

Itsallgood

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, In My Opinion, Religion has nothing to do with the Pledge. I consider using the word "God" pertains to all religions, that is if you assume the Pledge has a religious significance.

Mystery

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I really don't see how the word "God" can represent anything BUT religion. The fact that it doesn't specify one religion doesn't make it less religious.

Uhoh

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
lyn - are you serious?

that's beyond pathetic.

Lyn

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sad but true Uhoh

Check out the How many Star again? thread

Kalekona

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You know crossfire i think you are cross period. I started a thread on a topic that was much discussed at the time and I felt like asking the question religion aside I think you were and are rather rude. Don't like the topic don't post on it. You more than made your point and it wasn't necessary to insult me to do it.

For the record it was the 9th circut surpreme court which includes other states beside CA. such as Oregon, Washington, Nevada among others. And my understanding was that the man intended to use it as a springboard to take the word God out of everything connected to the US government such as congress <which he is doing right now> with his target being to get it removed from our money. I am not uninformed at all.

Itsallgood

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Calmly backs out of this dicussion. My original post is all I wanted to say on this dicussion. LOL

Kalekona

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Crossfire I must apologize yours was the last post I read and was only mildly insulting, I meant to address that post to Mystery.

Lancecrossfire

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Please stop throwing insults at one another--address the topic--not the poster. Please do not fame or bait others.

Kalekona

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lance I was only defending myself, I think i have that right.

Lancecrossfire

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My comment were to all people who are doing it. You are welcome to defend your point without going after someone else just because you feel they did the same.

I'm not going to point any fingers and specifiy who is doing it--I'm only asking from anyone involved that it stop, before it escalates.

Anyone at any point has the ability to "drop it". Since no one took that approach on their own, I simply am asking for that consideration.

Crossfire

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
In all fairness to me, I might add that someone did drop it. I did not respond to the attack on me.

Lurknomore

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well I for one just lost some respect for Amy, who was concerned about the cameras being able to see her doing this :(

I hoped this would come from their hearts VS a photo op

Lancecrossfire

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Crossfire, considering you made only one post, I would have to agree that you didn't respond--by definition.

Aerojunki

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
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Sanfranjoshfan

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This all seemed a bit phoney to me. It seems like the HG are only doing this to say "Look how patriotic I am!" to the viewing audience. If it was true patriotism, they would just do it. It came across like a visual sound bite that they orchestrated for the attention. Had it been spontaneous, I would have viewed it differently, but this was obviously planned for the cameras, not a statement from their hearts.

JMO