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TV ClubHouse: Archive: ARCHIVE THREE: Dani doesn't want to share glory at rap party with family!: Archive through September 15, 2002

Oregonfire

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 07:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I bet the Disneyland plan never comes to fruition. Once these folks get back out into the world and their usual environments, I think those types of things will fall by the wayside. Just something fun for them to think about while they are in there.

Sheila494

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 07:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
sounds to me like she doesnt give a crap about her family afterall..wonder whats on her agenda for that night.

Victoriafla

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 07:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani had her first child at 15? How old is her oldest daughter? Wow that is way to young to have a baby.

Wcv63

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 07:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I find this entire thread to be unfair to Dani since she is STILL playing the game. Anything she says within the house is part of the GAME and should not be taken as a reflection on how she feels about her family.

I for one feel that her family is the foremost priority in her life and always has been. To say otherwise is assuming something based on facts not in evidence. I move to strike this whole line of questioning and ask that the jury be instructed to disregard.

Judge?

Chance

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 07:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey Lance,
My reaction, after reading your post, was,"who cares what they want" they have no say in whether Gerry is there or not.Mostly I suspect they don't want to be faced with the living reminder of their nastiness towards him.They all know that Gerry will have been informed of the constant bashing and, as usual,somehow their guilty/embarrassed feelings will be twisted to be "his fault"
I also think Lisa is 1/2 nuts with her "fear" of Gerry because it all seems to be based on his "looking at her" once when she was in her bathing suit. Did you catch her relating her dream that Gerry was (pp) hovering over her or something like that and "security was called"??
Get these folks some therapy FAST !!!!!!

Seamonkey

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 07:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, it is young but she's 30, oldest daughter is 15. She's been married for 10 years. So she accomplished finishing HS and being on the basketball team along with having a little one.. highly commendable!!

But she does often seem to leave them out of her plans.

I know most people are still trashing Nicole as a hobby, but last year she and Jeff had the priority of each other instead of the cast party, since they had things to hash out and his dad had died.

I cannot imagine having lived with these people and not wanting to meet Dani's girls and Javier, and Debra and Gerry's kids and Lori's kids, check out Tonya's boyfriend, meet Merrit and various sisters and brothers, even Bucky (though I doubt that he will be flown out). But that is just me; I adore people's kids and such..

I WILL go on record as believing that once Dani sees Javier and her beautiful girls, she's going to absolutely want them there with her.

Oregonfire

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 07:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dang, she's 30? I'm *older* than her and I'm still a child. I can barely take care of my houseplants. I guess that's a lot of the reason why I cut Dani some major slack.

Wendo

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 07:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"sounds to me like she doesnt give a crap about her family afterall..wonder whats on her agenda for that night."

Wow. wow. I have nothing to say about this but...wow.

It's literally amazing how one comment can get blown out of proportion regarding Dani and, as a result, a comment such as the above can be written. C1mag is on the mark about this. (See Dani...Angry thread.)

It almost feels like the tvclubhouse board is becoming nothing more than a "hate" Dani board. I hope that's not the case.

Wcv63, ditto.

Ozarktracy

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 08:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I didn't see Dani say that, so I have no idea what her tone or body language was when she said it, but perhaps she'd prefer a PRIVATE reunion with her family and not have all those HGs and other BB people breathing down her neck once she's reunited with them? Maybe she'd like that part of her life to be totally private and not recorded for millions to see.

I personally know that I would be very emotional about seeing my family again and would NOT enjoy having everyone laugh at/along with me while I'm having my breakdown of laughing and emotional tears of joy at seeing my family again, or try to come over and discuss things about me with my family (even if they meant well). I would be very embarrassed and wouldn't want it shared with others outside my family.

But that's just me! Maybe Dani's thinking of some other reason for having a private reunion. Even if she doesn't want them at the wrap party, so what? The purpose of it isn't to reunite with her family, it's to come together with everybody who was a HG or was working on this edition of BB. To have her family show up would be a great distraction and perhaps she'd miss something going on at the wrap party because she'd be so <i>wrapped</i> up in her family once she sees them and wouldn't want to be rude.

Some others have said stuff about how she's been married, and a mother, for her whole adult life. This is her time and she wants to have it completely to herself and <i>then</i> go back into her wife and mother role. It's not a big deal that she doesn't want them at the wrap party, IMO, it's not like she's been having a mad affair with one of the other HGs, lol, there's nothing to hide (as if she could with us watching, ROFL), it's just her personal preference I think.

Sanfranjoshfan

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 10:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have known people that are very "backstabby" about people *behind their backs* like Danielle. Remember when she was confronted by Lori to tell Gerry to his face what she thought of his hand washing habits (or lack thereof)? She was totally pumped up, practically shaking and I thought her eyes were gonna pop right outta her head. I seem to recall that either Dani (in the DR) or maybe even Xavier (in an interview) mentioned that she doesn't like confrontation. Her reaction to being forced into confronting Gerry really seemed a LOT more intense than it should have been.

The gossipy judgemental types that I have known are often like that....they have plenty of courage to be critical and judge folks behind their backs but are cowards when it comes to face to face confrontation.

Dani may just be *afraid* to be in the cast party with 11 other people, most of whom she has royally trashed and bashed behind their backs. She would be completely "outted" as the "gossipy trash talker" and she could very well be confronted by a few of the ex HGs. I could see how she would not want to be confronted like that in front of her family. It could be very embarrassing for a controlling person to be reprimanded in front of her family.

Just a possibility...

C1mag

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 10:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yep she is terrible. Lets see... She is an evil backstabbing, lying, control freak that now hates her family blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadday, We know the routine... When is this gonna end?

Could she not want to submit her family to the hoopla of the moment? Could she want a chance to slightly decompress? Was she the only one that didn't want her family there? Would that even matter at this point? Dang this is getting ridiculous!

Wendo

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 11:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag, no kidding man, no kidding. It's never ending.

Sanfranjoshfan

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 11:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"She is an evil backstabbing, lying, control freak that now hates her family blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadday"

I see you finally agree with me. :)

C1mag

Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 11:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sanfran ... uh... Nevermind :)

Fabnsab

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 12:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo, I find I seem to follow you around and agree with everything you say. You must be very insightful...lol

Seriously, I am a Dani fan who hasn't always loved what she has done but I believe this is taken way out of text. Besides, BB emotions are different than real ones. Don't we always say people shouldn't hook up in the BB house because you don't think straight in there. I am sure Dani can attest to that with that comment, if it was meant the way most are taking it.

I do not necessarily mind the Dani bashing for this reason...it was Roddy bashing a short time ago and I joined in and everything he said was picked apart and critiqued so I would be a hypocrite if I took umbrage to the Dani bashing.

C1mag

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 12:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fab was it really this bad on Roddy because I've been on this board through it all and although there were discusions and opinions about Rods approach I can't recall all the little nit picking on the man to this level. I voiced my opinion about him but refused to dissect every single movement the man made and even went as far as to say that although it sickens me to watch him in action if he pulls if off I applaud him. I really don't recall it being this bad on him. People are literally throwing out things she has said when she hasn't said them. It's shocking!

Wendo

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 12:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fabnsab, the difference IMO is those of us who commented on Roddy critiqued his game, admitted we didn't like his strategy, and gave him the credit due for playing a good game. On more than one occassion, we conceded that if he was one of the final two, he deserved the win. Can the same be said about Dani? I don't think so.

In addition, Roddy's family, his life outside, his co-workers, etc., etc. were never dragged out on the board. Again, can the same be said about Dani? I don't think so.

Many hated the way he played the game, but never did I see the kind of "hate" directed at Dani as a person ever directed at Roddy. JMO.

Whatever, no big deal. Everyone has their favs.

Jeeny98

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 12:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Also, they have no other history together besides what's gone on in the house. It's boring day after day... it's idle talk. They are very different people, with different interests. They only thing they can really relate to each other is what's gone on in the house, and the people in it.
Although, it does get a bit catty, it is part being locked up in a house, and game where people get voted off every week.

Moonfairys

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 01:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Are you kidding me????

She's been away from her family for months now.. and you think that she doesn't want them to come to the wrap party cause she needs time alone? HA!

I'd bet the reason she doesnt want them there is because it will be the first time she sees the other house guests face to face AFTER they see her diary room slams and backstabbing strategies.
I wouldnt want my kids to see them confront me on that kind of behaviour either.

Bernie

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 02:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani has used her family's needs as her main reason for winning, during the game, but she has also said more than once that this is 'her' time. There are probably several reasons why she would not want her family at the party, and we will never know what they are, unless we hear her express them on the feeds or in a broadcast DR segment. Any reason that we attribute to her is simply speculation, and is therefore pie in the sky. All we do is extrapolate based on how we would act in similar circumstances, and/or, how we personally feel about Danielle herself.
I'm not overly fond of Danielle, because of her forceful bashing, but I do accept that she's played a very astute game, and gotten herself and Jason to within sight of the prize.
If I were Danielle, I wouldn't want my family at the wrap party either. I would have done things I wouldn't be proud of, in order to win, and would rather keep the BB experience entirely separate from my real life, as something that was distasteful but necessary, and also something to be locked away in memory, or removed from my head altogether.
I would also be very loathe to have my children directly exposed to all the BS of the BB experience.
Based on what we THINK we know about Danielle, it is POSSIBLE that her motives are partly selfish, in that she might wish to prolong the time that she is in the limelight, but again, we'll never know unless she says so and is heard to say so.
If she is afraid of what might be said to her at the wrap party by the other houseguests, then that's another perfectly good reason to keep her family from being subject to it.
As I said, I don't even like her much, but on this topic, we're making a mountain out of a molehill, in my humble opinion, and should cut the woman some slack.

C1mag

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 02:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Moon the wrap party is seperate from seeing your family. As you recall as soon as the winner was announced last year they got to see and hug their loved ones first. Later on was the wrap party.

Like it has been pointed out... She may not want to put her family through the hoopla of the party. She does have the right to decompress alone for a bit after hugging her family. I don't think it is a tactic of hers at all with some strange evil motive behind it. It is useless to suggest she is human any longer cause for some she is apparently the spawn of hell with off the wall motives.

I don't see her that way nor do I think she meant she didn't want to see her family first. By the way... Don't kid yourself, there isn't one house guest that is gonna confront her at some party. She's got a mouth and can handle herslef and they know it. They would only give her a stare and that is about it. So what if she wouldn't want her kids in a place that could be intense. Why should she? Is Lori and Tonya's and Gerrys family gonna all be there? I doubt it.

Fabnsab

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 02:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
CI and Wendo, I do think our Roddy bashing was that bad. There was a whole thread on what we thought of his parents and some not so nice things were said. Does the term "devil" ring a bell? We even accused him of being an emotional abuser and assuming he would get physical if he were in a relationship. If thats not personal... I think there was alot of mud thrown Roddys way. I even recall some posters saying it was getting out of hand, that every thread seemed to be about hating Roddy.

I was and am a major anti Roddy person but I do remember the same things that are happening here happened then. Like Marcellas said, we villify people on this show. The board no longer has Chiara so we go for Roddy, then Marcellas. We now are going after Danielle. Do I like it? Absolutely not, but I can't really say much, because like I said earlier, I did join in on the Roddy bashing. We're on the same side, guys, but I do think equal bashing time was paid to the other HGs.

C1mag

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 02:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes I recall the thread about his parents. It was not a bash on them at all. It was what we thought of their support for their son. As I recall most of us who didn't care for Roddy pointed out that we totally respected and understood their unconditional love for him. We laughed at the thought that he was totally honest as they had suggested and the worst comment that was made on that issue was... Did they watch the show? Put this in context with the repeated... Dani is playing the poor me card threads and then the bashing starts on her husband his job, thier spending etc.. and quickly I say that Roddys family was treated with respect on this board.

As for the thoughts on what he is all about I recall it was based on what he had actually said and done durring his time in the house. We referred to actual comments and actions of his. We pointed to lf posts to support those opinions. However, In the case of dani bashing it goes well past her comments and many examples are completely fabricated. Calling him "The Devil" was a standard joke well before it became a true issue. We knew it was not literal. Again I don't see the level of his negative threads as anything near what I am reading about Danielle. She's even getting popped for her perm. A whole thread about a stinkin perm. It cracks me up!

So what i'm saying is... I'm sorry fab but I continue to disagree on just this one issue with you. Hope you don't mind :) Of coarse those that could appreciate Roddy in the house were going to sound off and say they disliked any comments. That doesn't mean it had gotten out of hand to the level that Dani is recieving. As I said.. right now the woman can't breath without someone suggesting she is an oxygen hog and must go. I don't recall this type of bashing about Roddy from moment to moment. I guess it's a lesson to learn about the passion we have as viewers.

Mrdisguise

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 07:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"Dani may just be *afraid* to be in the cast party with 11 other people, most of whom she has royally trashed and bashed behind their backs. She would be completely "outted" as the "gossipy trash talker" and she could very well be confronted by a few of the ex HGs."


Yes- I agree with this. Danielle doesn't want her family to be around because she thinks that the other houseguests hate her. Or maybe she just dislikes several of the houseguests and doesn't want her family to meet them.

Wcv63

Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 07:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well I feel perfectly justified defending Dani and decrying the sheer amount of posts bashing her. I was no Roddy fan. I had plenty to say on the subject. I however, never called him the devil and didn't participate in threads that I thought were getting personal.

However, even had I jumped into the fray on the Roddy threads, defending Dani should not determined on how one felt about any other houseguest.