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Missy2

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank goodness Dani keeps telling everyone she's a very compassionate person that is not vindictive because we might forget with all that badmouthing that she does. But thats right whatever she has to say, she'll say it to your face.

Sanfranjoshfan

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Missy2 - I caught that, too. Kinda interesting because I remember reading posts about how Roddy said he was a good guy over and over which somehow proved that he wasn't. In any case....looks like that's exactly what Dani is doing.

I almost fell out of my chair when I heard "I am not a vindictive person." And now she's explaining how even if she "gives her word" she can still have reasons why she doesn't need to honor it.

Yeah, Dani....that's because you have no honor!

Missy2

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sanfranjoshfan, I posted a topic before how Roddy used to do this. I wonder if the hg notice this stuff? It really bugs me. I hope when Amy leaves she sees all this crap! Maybe Amy won't leave? Maybe it will be Dani - ya right.

Luvhubby

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was listening also. Then Dani was speaking about the POV and she would never ask Amy or anyone to use it on her, that it was wrong of Roddy to ask. (OK Dani...um hmmmmm we believe you....NOT!!!)

Itsallgood

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy will see all the "crap" lol. Her parents have the Live Feeds and Hadley (her best friend she has referred to) knows about this site. :-)

She did comment at one time when she gets out she is going looking for something she suspects...about what she didn't say...but she did make that comment.

I found Hadleys e-mail and e-mailed her and she e-mailed me back with the info of Amy's parents having the live feeds and Hadley said she would show her this site.

So rest assured she will find out how Compassionate they all were. LOL

Lurknomore

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I sure hope she is up to that Itsallgood. I really feel for Amy when she gets out of the house. I think she has been judged SOOOO unfairly compared to others (ala Gerry) and I just hope it won't really upset her. She seems to take these things very serioulsy.

My hope for her is that she has a really good support system and won't take too much of this to heart when she sees it. I'd hate to see her as hurt as I think she may be.

Kalekona

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There is a big difference between what Dani does with the gossip and her being compassionate. She is a compassionate person reaching out to the others when they are hurt or upset. That was something that Roddy didn't do- most evident when he had Amy bawling and didn't offer her any comfort. Dani may talk about people <is it just game play or how she really is? we don't know> but she has been there when Amy, Marcellas, Chiara
and the others were emotionally upset she gave them her time, her ear and comfort, that is compassion- if you don't have it you can't fake it.

Denecee

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with you kalekona!!

Sanfranjoshfan

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As I recall, when Amy and Roddy had their last emotional convo in the back yard, Amy was ccrying and even though Roddy made sure that Amy knew why he was angry....he still gave her a hug and kissed her on the forehead when he went in, saying something like "it's okay".

During the LIVE show when Amy was bawling her head off in the back yard, when all the HG knew millions of people were watching, Dani and Marce just stared at Amy's crying with utter disdain and refused to go over and see if she was okay. I remember thinking that Roddy was the only HG that would have gone over to comfort her....

edited to add - I guess I'll never know for sure if Roddy WOULD HAVE comforted Amy....but I DO know that Dani DIDN'T.

Ozarktracy

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kalekona, I don't see what making fun of Amy behind her back gets Danielle in the game. Except if her strategy is to completely tear someone apart behind their back and then be two-faced and pretend they like them to their face.


Also, I don't see how making fun of people right after doing something nice to them is compassionate.

A week or so ago, when Amy got drunk (or at least very tipsy), her feelings were hurt when Marcellas told her to go to bed. She went and asked Danielle for her opinion if she should go to bed, stop drinking, or stay up, do what she wanted to (drink) and just ignore Marcellas. To Amy's face Danielle told her to have fun, and she did. Amy was stupid IMO to trust Danielle, but darn it all, there she is, with that understanding sweet personality, huh.

Well, just a short time later that same night, when Amy was in the bathroom posing in front of the mirror, Lisa and Danielle put together this story about Amy's flashing the mirror, thus showing the cameramen behind it her bare breasts, and they did NOT see a thing to make this true. All they heard was an "OMG" by one of the cameramen and it could have been directed at anyone of them or NONE of them, D&L just didn't know enough to run with their gossip, but they did anyway. They told this lie/gossip to everyone BUT Amy.

A compassionate person, in my world, would have approached me and told me they thought I was drunk, that perhaps I'd just exposed myself, and shouldn't I be off to bed before I do something even more embarrassing.

If Danielle has compassion, it's conditional. She has to be able to mock and make fun of the person she's lending an understanding ear and comfort to. I don't really think that's compassion. If she could just do something nice and then not rip the person to shreds for not being as "strong" as she is, then I'd consider her compassionate.

(unfortunately, I won't be back for awhile to reply. Sorry).

Costacat

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Compassion means to "feel or show compassion" or be "sympathetic". It also means "to pity". The definition of compassion means "Deep awareness of the suffering of another coupled with the wish to relieve it". [from Dictionary.com]

I'm sorry, but I don't believe that Danielle is a compassionate person. I believe she is *playing* a compassionate person. I believe she is doing this in order to win the game. There are too many occasions on which she has mimicked someone -- even if that act is performed behind someone's back, doe that imply a wish to relieve suffering? Personally, I don't think so.

I also don't believe Danielle is as classy as she claims she is. But then, that's my opinion (and you're entitled to yours).

Bigbrotherbelle

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good point Sanfran...

Missy2, don't you remember how compassionate Danielle was when she called Amy fat behind her back instead of to her face? That was so very compassionate and sympathetic of her to realize that Amy would be embarrased if Danielle told her that, so instead she chose to tell it to the thousands watching the feeds.

Romans8_1

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I see no compassion in Danni. Not in regards to this show or the HG. It comes off phony. I think her and Roddy suffer from similar traits. It may go along with Alpha-male mentality in that they think more about themselves than others. I wish Dani wouldn't be in the final 2, but I think that it is a foregone conclusion that she will.

Janekat0629

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry, but I remember Roddy being compassionate to Amy AND Gerry. Something that Danielle and Co. didn't do. People seem to be blind when it comes to Roddy.

IMO, Roddy has more class and compassion and kindness that all of these people put together (except Jason, of course). Even Chiara does. I thought she was quite classy in her chat a few days ago. Not vindictive AT ALL. I don't expect most of the people here to see that, however.

I just hope none of you are on a jury if I'm ever tried.

Sanfranjoshfan

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Janekat - "People seem to be blind when it comes to Roddy."

I agree....some people are blind to Roddy's positive traits yet they are also blind to Dani's negative ones.

JMO

Scorpiomoon

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 04:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
See, what I can't understand is how Danielle can pray to God to ask the game go her way, but she certainly isn't acting very Christian.

It would seem Danielle believes in whatever happens to suit her mood or suit her agenda at any given moment.

I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and say she is probably just behaving this way because of the stress of the house.

Costacat

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 04:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Janekat, did you read the transcript of Roddy's chat? In my opinion, he did not sound like he has "class and compassion and kindness that all of these people put together". In fact, to me he sounded small-minded and mean and very disgruntled.

Missy2

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 04:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sanfranjoshfan, that was so disturbing during the live show when Amy was BAWLING and NO one said a thing to her. Afterwards, Marc went as far to say he was angry with her. !!?? Imagine that after all those tears Marc has shed for her - he such a good friend.

Weseeall

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 04:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wonder if what Amy is gonna look up when she leaves is if Dani really did mock Amy the night of the white dress incident...when Dani was in the lizard room with Lisa and ?? dancing around and, in general, making a fool of herself pretending to be Amy when Roddy came in (he had been outside with Amy).

After Dani tried showing him, he said he already knew what she had been doing, had seen her from outside.

I've wondered, ever since then, if perhaps Amy had seen it too or if Roddy had told her.

Dani at her "best" once again. With friends such as this... <sigh>

Goddess146

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 04:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani is a coward.

The other day Amy asked Dani if Dani was talking about Amy. Dani said "No, if I have anything to say about you, I will say it to your face."

I can not recall anytime Dani has criticised Amy to Amy's face. I can recall several thousand times when Dani has trashed Amy behind her back.

The woman is a coward.

Weseeall

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 04:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Forgot to add that this afternoon Amy and Dani were at a table in yard alone talking about evicted HGs and when talking about Tonya, Amy made it very clear that she (Amy) did not take too kindly to being mocked!

I wish I could have seen Dani's face when she said that but I was just listening, not watching.

Bernie

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 05:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy also said to Danielle yesterday that she felt that she had been used, and doesn't like being used, and Dani carefully took it to mean being used by Roddy, and ran with that, but I strongly feel that Amy is onto Danielle. It came up today again, re the POV and Roddy, so it will be interesting to get Amy's take on those left when she has her Julie Chen moment in the spotlight.

Saggkl

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 05:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wonder if Jason would even listen to AMy if she really is on to Danni, and tried to tell him about it?

Wendo

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 06:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Weseeall said, "Amy made it very clear that she (Amy) did not take too kindly to being mocked!"

Interesting, coming from the girl who mocked Tonya and Chiara the most in the house (along with Mar.)

Maryk

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 07:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani and compassionate. They don't belong together in the same sentence. Her actions in the house is those of a hypocrite. Her constant bashing is just plain cruel.

Missy2

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 08:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
When Amy finds out the truth she will not be forgiving (I hope).

Jimmer

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 08:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Danni is not my favorite player in any sense but I have to say that there hasn't been a lot of compassion in that house from anyone. Not to suggest that multiple wrongs make a right, but Danni has been surrounded by many people who have shown little compassion for others.

Janekat0629

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 08:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I said CHAIRA'S chat, not Roddys.

Jimmer

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 08:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was impressed by Chiara's chat as well.