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Wendydarling

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 09:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
NO ONE will vote for Danielle to win...perhaps even if she gets into the final 2 against Amy, they may all detest her so much that they award it to Amy...similar to last year with Will and Nicole.

If Danielle had been smart, she would have tried to be in the final 3 with Amy and Marcellas.

She's cooked her own goose now.

Tobor7

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 09:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You are 100% correct. She will never win 1st place.

Muse

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 09:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, I think Danielle lost that chance a long time ago. Like Marcellas said, she overextended herself in terms of alliances. To make it to the final two, she *had* to betray some people, whether it was as HOH or in terms of voting. Add that to the HGs already upset with her about the badmouthing, and there was no way she was going to win.

Besides, I think it would've looked even worse if Danielle betrayed Jason.

Ericka1012

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 09:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendy you are SOOOOOOOO right I said right after the Roddy eviction that I didn't believe she could beat anyone accept Marcy in the finals... She can't beat Jason or Lisa almost for sure... and Amy is a good way out to not have to vote for Dani if your on the jury because of all the stuff she says about them... Hope 33,000 changes her life a lot... because unless these former HG's are on drugs I can't imagine her getting the majority of the votes.

Cindyluvsroddy

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 09:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i totally agree ...

Ryn

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 09:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This is not the Mole - 2nd place still gets a decent paycheck :)

Actually I think she is a lock for 2nd following Jason or Lisa.

both have loyal evicted HGs - I don't think she has any - at least any more loyal to her than the other 2.

And surely Amy is gone this week.

Cindyluvsroddy

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 09:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hi ryn .. :)

Ryn

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 09:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa would be silly to take Jason with her if she has the chance, as Jason would be to take Lisa.

Ryn

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 09:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
lol - hi cindy

Letmeinthere

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 09:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani will end up with 2nd place. I can't see any one wanting to give her $500K.

Kuchi

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 09:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She has a chance if they look at the whole picture. She and Jason formed the alliance in the beginning as NO ONE had approached either one of them into getting together as an alliance...so they became an alliance of two. She has been playing this game for the two of them and kept him off the block when Amy won HOH upon her return. Yes she was approached about other alliances and was playing the game when she accepted. She and Jason made other "alliances" but only to keep theirs a secret and get them further in the game. She has been true to her original alliance unlike everyone else that was in the house. Jason has been true as well except for when he did not nominate Roddy whom Dani felt threatened by. It all worked out for them in that situation though. The votes she will not get are Gerrys and Tonyas and maybe Loris as she was openly mean about them...Gerry about his hygiene and Tonya about her not being a good mother. With Lori it was the arguement about Gerrys hygiene.

Roddy Chiara Eric Lisa will feel it was Jason's betrayal--evicting Eric---that was the six packs downfall and may not vote for him in the end.

Marc may be too angry with her for the last "betrayal".

Amy will vote for her as she has always said she wanted Dani to win. And Dani has kept her in the house with the eviction of ROddy and now Marc.

Josh I am not sure....I dont think he liked Jason.

So I see the votes like this

For Dani: Chiara, Roddy, Eric, Lisa, Josh & Amy
For Jason: Gerry, Tonya, Lori and Marc

Just my two cents.....go Dani and Jason

C1mag

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 09:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think she has a better chance than some are giving her. It's not the time to go into detail but lets just say right now she has controled everything and been true to her one and only alliance and has admitted to lying. As the time gets closer and if she does make it I will give a fuller analysis. She is by far the better player.

Ryn

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 09:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Chiara for Danielle? Can't see it, nor a lot of the other people you have voting for her.

But, as you said - your two cents ;)

And don't forget - each finalist gets to eliminate one vote.

Auntiedotcom

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 09:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
so danielle sticks with jason and nominates lisa and amy.

she will tell jason to vote out lisa. he will do it.

next week, hoh competition:

dani wins - she will keep who? she is all about the money, and she really truly believes that amy will not get the jury votes needed to win, so at this point, it will be bye bye jason.

jason wins - he will keep his word and tell amy bye bye, as he has been pretty brainwashed by danielle at this point.

amy wins - she really doesn't care if she wins, hard to believe, but true. she will toss danielle and keep jason, and be glad for jason to win the money.

Annitar

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 09:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Dani would have hurt her chances much MORE tonight by voting to KEEP Marce! She would have been digging Jason's grave and that would have looked sooo much worse than voting to evict Marce and letting Jason decide. The girl had no choice but to help protect Jason.

Jason has been her true ally from the beginning... she had to try and do what was in his best interest tonight. I believe the evicted HGs would have looked at her much more harshly for going back on that alliance than going back on what she may or may not have had with Marce.

Plus we all know that Marce was going to be gunning for both Dani & Jason... she made a very smart move and I for one don't hold it against her! It's a game and the girl is playing a darn good one!

Jaysgal

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 10:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that Danielle and Jason have been "blessed" with luck in this entire game. If the other players were using their senses as they showed sometimes, Danielle and Jason would have been gone since.

That said, I think that Danielle's best bet is with Jason at this point. People will feel betrayed by Jason. Yes, Danielle was a culprit or sometimes the mastermind, but Jason was the executioner and people trusted him. I think that there's a huge chance for Danielle if she keeps Jason. If she doesn't, then there's zero chance. Amy would take the money if put up against Danielle, and so would Lisa.

Whit4you

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 10:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Welp 33 grand + yer stipend aint nothing to sneeze at ..she earned it.... and if she can livewith herself more power to her.

Annitar

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 10:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh I think Dani will have no problem living with herself. She signed up to play a game and she is playing it! She's had one true alliance from the very beginning and she put herself on the line to honor that alliance tonight! I think she is playing a great game. Her and Jason deserve to have gotten as far in this game as they have!

Lisa & Amy have been riding on people's coat tails thus far. I love Lisa and wouldn't mind seeing her at the end but she didn't start playing the game until after Eric left. Dani & Jason have been in there playing hard from the get go! No one has had harder decisions to make than Jason. The Dani/Jason alliance may be the best reality alliance so far!

Eden

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 10:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, Jaysgal, all I can say is ALL of the players have been "senseless" the ENTIRE game because NEITHER Danielle nor Jason have been nominated... EVER, much less evicted. Thanks mostly to Danielle.

There comes a point, and since the end of this show is so immediate to the denoument I'm not sure that point will have been reached, that you have to give kudos to someone who just flat outplayed you, outthought you, outmanipulated you, by whatever way or means. Danielle IS that person. Few have left thinking Danielle an enemy. Only from viewing tapes and her strategy and DR entries have they seen how OUTWITTED they were by her. Seems petty to me to resent that after the fact. But, whoever said these folks weren't petty? Danielle deserves the money. I won't be surprised if she doesn't get it. If the other players are HONEST, as they love to think they are, Danielle is the clear WINNER.

C1mag

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 10:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Eden I totally agree. She has played this game out!! How brilliant was it of her to convince Marcellus he shouldn't use the veto? She literally played him out the door!! He had every intention of doing the same to her. She just plays it better! I wish that jury would wake up before the finals and if she is still in this thing they need to suck it up and admit she ruled this game! Jason wouldn't even be in the game had it not been for her checking his back. They'd all have to admit they said the kid needed to go early on. Unfortunately they will be a bunch of sore losers and dock her for stupid issues.

Uhoh

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 10:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i think dani knows she doesn't have a very shot at the 500K. she kept saying 'i just want to make it to the final two' and although at the time it sounded like just another tactic comment, i now believe that is what she has been clawing and fighting for, not paying attention to actual jury votes.

i believe her that she'll take jason to the final two if she gets to choose, because that's one loyalty that has always been sacrosanct, in and out of the DR.

maybe she's thinking - 50K ain't bad, and if i get really lucky ...

Cameltoes

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 10:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I would give her the money just for her part in convincing Marcellas not to use the POV. That is the play of the century. However, I don't think the evicted houseguests will see it that way and she is in trouble against anyone but Amy.

Meggieprice

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 10:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope Dani sees that Lisa is more likely to keep her than Amy is. I realize Lisa showed her cards tonight but it would be a mistake on Dani's part to keep Amy.

This should be the time for some deal proposing.

btw I was really broken hearted by this eviction, but with some common sense from C1 , Wendo, and others I am back in the swing and still in the Dani camp...

Meggieprice

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 10:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I also think there is no way Dani will betray Jason now. She fought too hard for this...and I do believe she was not comfortable betraying Marc the way she did. It was the first time she voted out someone she had promised she would not vote out.

Hummingbird

Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 10:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No way Roddy will vote for Dani to win. He will see all those tapes of her calling him the devil.