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Earthmother

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 12:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What exactly did he say about her Wendo..I think many people confuse trashing and bashing as lying and manipulating. I think there is a big difference. If you are going to tell us that Roddy said "Amy is a selfish little bi**h and she is a #$@%^&, so you should vote her out" then I would agree with you that he was trashing her, but I never heard those things come out of his mouth.

As a matter of fact those are the things that come out of her mouth.

Adrian

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 12:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy is not this year's Will even if he survives again being evicted this week. His similarity with Will's BB2 history starts and ends with that.

Every BB2 HGs did not take Will seriously. Everybody wants to be with him in the Final 2. They all thought what he had been saying in the house are all BS. On the other hand, Roddy is so dead serious with his holier than thou attitude & blatant manipulations of other HG's minds (HGs do not know this yet!). Everybody does not want to be with him in the Final 2 because he is pretending to be nice & playing the game very smartly. THEY ALL INDEED THOUGHT HE IS THAT SMART & NICE! Once they get out of the house and everybody gets the chance to watch the BB3 tapes, they would see how phony & manipulative Roddy is. No one will vote for him (possibly except for his lovers (?) Josh, Eric & Chiara) if makes the Final 2.

Sanfranjoshfan

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 12:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani DOES attack the HG behind their backs. She has gone on and on about how lousy a mother Tonya was, because she was on cocaine when she got pregant...she never said that to her face, but she made sure to reiterate it countless times to everyone else. She has gone on and on about how nasty and vile Gerry is....going on and on about his feet and how nasty it was when she was in the hot tub with Gerry...but the only time she said anything to him about it was when Lori FORCED her to. She has gone on and on about Roddy being the devil...pressing her opinion on Gerry with the "evidence" that he was not a man of (her)god. She has never gone to Roddy about these remarks and in fact denied the fact that she has villified him behind his back when she was confronted. She has gone on and on about how Chiara being crude and crass but never brought that to Chiara.

Every time Dani does this....it is not her just trying to convince others that to evict the "trashee de jour" would be in their best interests....she is just trying to convince them that the person in question is unworthy or "less than"" in one way or another..it is not "strategy"....it is character assasination.

Of course, I guess one could argue that Dani's strategy IS character assasination....it seems to be working IN the house, but the HGs that vote at the end will know better.

Roddy does not villify everyone at every chance he gets like Dani and Marce and Amy do.

The next closest "good person" to Jason (that has played the game without attacking peope's character behind their backs) is RODDY.....not Dani by any means.

Adrian

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 12:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
For still playing the game, Dani can't really say what she wants to say in front of them. But once they get out of the house, Dani wants to let them know that's what she exactly feels about them ... like it or not. Whether that will cost her the game, I would say not.

On the other hand, everyone will see how phony and insincere Roddy is.

Lancecrossfire

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 12:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
SanFran, that is exactly correct.

Both Roddy and Dani manipulate the thoughts of others in the game--both are playing hard.

As pointed out in another thread that is anti Roddy, he keeps telling people how good he is and what he's done for them.

So, it comes down to the titans being a person who manipulates by making you think they are great and you owe them something (Roddy), or a person who trashes HGs, and convinces you they are scummy (Dani)

Both are within the rules of the game.

Adrian

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 12:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
BTW, Roddy has positive traits. I do not hate him. It's just that he is the type of person that gets into my nerve and I guess the same way Dani haters feel for her. DANI IS NOT THAT STUPID THAT THE HGs WILL NOT KNOW WHAT SHE HAS BEEN SAYING IN THE DR. I think she is like that in person, she will say to her friends whatever she wants to say in front of them. Once again, while playing the game she can't be brutally frank yet.

Scorpiomoon

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 12:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am HUGE Roddy fan. I don't think he has done anything wrong.

If he does leave, I don't see any point in watching anymore.

Earthmother

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 12:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bravo, Bravo, Sanfran..tell em' like it is honey!!

I can guarentee now someone will counter with "but she's not as bad as (hg of choice) because...."

This excusing of behavior because someone else did something worse (in poster's opinion) is how kids behave. I see it time and again inside the house and on these boards. What he did was bad but what she did was worse so therefore it somehow nullifies their act in some way.

There is no excuse for delibratly saying things about anyone to their face or behind their backs to cause them pain. I don't care what someone else does; it doesn't excuse your favorite's behavior.

Scorpiomoon

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 01:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Great post, Sanfran! You pointed out the truth and obvious. I don't understand why others don't see things as you do.

Zeyna

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 01:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo, I'm not sure what you mean by Roddy trashing Amy all last week. If you're referring to him wanting to keep Gerry, then I don't call that trashing. If he was to say that Amy was trying to seduce Jason by not wearing panties to degrade her, that is what I call trashing. If you think I have a double standard, hey..that's ok with me.

Sanfranjoshfan

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 01:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks earthmother and Scorpiomom - I am still rooting for Roddy....it's a lost cause, but at least the Roddy haters will be happy!

Wendo

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 01:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well Earth, I have hear Roddy call Amy selfish and spoiled. How is that any different?

I think he's playing an exceptional game. But I don't think he is playing at any higher standard than the other HG's.

Dagny

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 02:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy has been "one" of my favorites. Amy being the other. In this case, I have to cheer for Amy. And I really am upset that Roddy is trying to campaign against my girl. Yes..I said my girl...she's not Marc's girl anymore...if she was he wouldn't have nominated her...so I will adopt her. LOL

Maryk

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 02:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The thing about Amy though is that Roddy has told this to her also directly.
Danni bashes people behind their backs and makes character assasinations on the people who have already left the game. This after smiling/smiled at their faces and saying to them that she's got their backs. Currently she has 3 promises to 3 people for final 2, and eventually she will start bashing the other 2 to justify her actions of stabbing them in the back.

Annitar

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 02:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Not me! I think he is too hard on anyone that dares to go against him. He was almost emotionally abusive towards Jason last week and he basically stalked Danielle tonight until he could get her to talk.

I don't like the way he messes with people's heads and tries to make them feel guilty for something they have every right to do.

Is he basically a good person? Sure, I just don't like the way he treats people.

Okay I'll get out of you guys thread now! :)

Wendo

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 03:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"The thing about Amy though is that Roddy has told this to her also directly."

And that was so kind of him. He literally ripped the girl to shreds during his nomination speech of her. Thank god Amy had Roddy to set her on the right path to adulthood.

As far as doing it in front of her face? Yeah, he has. But he also spent the good portion of last week making rather crappy comments about the girl behind her back. About her selfishness, her being spoiled, and her drinking. And then, after all that, he spends all last night telling Amy that she's bright, special, giving, etc. He's being just as two faced with Amy that you accuse the others of being. I don't see a difference.

C1mag

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 03:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well Amy made it clear to him just now that if she gets the veto she is taking him off. She also told him that if he gets the veto and takes her off then Dani would go off. Damn now she is telling him that he and Dani nominated together would be considered clash of the Titans. Actually this is the reason that the girl is on the freakin block.

C1mag

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 03:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I keep asking myself if Amy wants to play this game or if she is just in this for the camera's? This woman makes no sense at all... She's freakin safe this week and yet she just babbles on and on helping this guy out. Damn she is gonna probably promise to name her first born Roddy.

Wendo

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 03:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag, see my post in the "Roddy blowing gasket" thread.

Azriel

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 05:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sanfran, your post was right on the mark!

The rabid Dani fans on this board refuse to admit that Dani has even lied in the parameters of the game. If you say Dani has told 3 people that she will carry them to the end, then they give you some semantics mumbo jumbo about 'she didn't SAY to the end of the GAME, she said to the END. That could be the end of the day' ~shakes head~

Dani has done the most vile character assasination that I have ever witnessed in BB. She has torn people apart to win some money. I find nothing to admire in Dani. It's 'just a game'doesn't excuse the levels she has sunk to to tear down the other people in that house.

Bbnan

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 05:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Azriel, do you watch the live feeds? Because there is a lot of exaggeration on this board about what Dani does and says. For example, on this board Dani is bashed for saying Amy is fat, when all she said was that this outfit won't fit Amy ( Lisa and Dani were going to give her one of their pieces of clothing) because Amy has wide hips. THen that turns into Dani is bashing Amy.
I've seen it happen many many times.

And if a person can't be critical of Tonya and her mothering, then I don't know who in the world one could criticize. I don't know of anyone who would not be judgmental.

Dani is no worse than anyone else in that house.

Azriel

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 05:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes Bbnan, I watch the live feeds. That's funny because I was of the opinion that most of the rabid Dani fans did not watch the live feeds.

Wcv63

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 05:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Azriel...I watch the feeds, I am a Dani fan. I don't know if I would call myself rabid but I do want her to win. She has done some things and said some things that certainly show her in a poor light. However, I think that her strategy, her ability to read people and her sheer determination to win for her family outweigh those negatives for me. I still want her to win. I want her to get that house because she is focused and trying so hard.

Wendo

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 06:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wc, I think all the Roddy fans are a bit upset by the nights turn of events.

Efilon

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 06:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"She has done some things and said some things that certainly show her in a poor light. However, I think that her strategy, her ability to read people and her sheer determination to win for her family outweigh those negatives for me. I still want her to win."

Change the she/her to he/him and leave out the family part and I could say exactly the same about Roddy.

Bbnan: Actually, Dani did remark to Marcellus that Amy had put on weight while she was gone and attributed it to drinking. See Aug 29th live feeds.