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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Is BB really so stupid that they didn't realize Lisa's farewell message was a major diss to Gerry?: Archive through August 29, 2002

John32070

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 06:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The only time I've seen a negative farewell message was last season when they showed what Krista said to Kent, it wasn't a slam but it was obviously rude. Kent let it go in one ear and out the other which was ok by me. This was totally uncalled for by the producers to show that at all. Don't be surprised if Lisa's popularity numbers at the CBS site take a dive next week. Now I definately want her gone.

Knightpatti

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 06:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
From what was said on one of these threads about how Lisa felt uncomfortable about Gerry, I think she did not say it out of honesty. She wanted to say probably alot more to him and much worse. Maybe that was the nicest thing that she could say.

Curlyq

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 06:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lurknomore, what she said was: "What I really have to say to you...and what I really have to say to Eric...is that I'm sorry...that I didn't have the pleasure of putting you up this week."

Bmh, I think the big outrage is that BB chose to air this "honest" message when they've never shown negative farewells to any of the other evictees. This served no purpose but to make Gerry feel bad and make Lisa look vindictive compared to the others.

Curiouscat

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 06:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It seems like BB loaded a vote against Lisa if she's one of the final two by showing that to Gerry. How many other evicted houseguests would think twice about who they'd vote for in the end if they were shown the negative farewell messages also?!?

Cameltoes

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 06:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have no problem with what she said. She has had nothing good to say about him all week. She's going to go into the DR and suddenly have well wishes for him? She's happy to see him go and I do appreciate her honesty. I'd much rather see that than something like Amy's goodbye to Chiara (and Chiara's thinly veiled chagrined reaction). I don't think BB intended anything by it. Gerry will soon know everything thay ALL have been saying and IMO Lisa will come off better than the rest for not being phony in her goodbye.

Luvness

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 06:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think that should've been aired. If BB wanted to be mean to Gerry that is wrong. And if BB wants Gerry to appreciate Lisa's honesty and see that the others are phoney that is also wrong. Let the man decide what to believe on his own. I don't like all the manipulating BB appears to be doing.

Csnog

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 06:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I suspect that the editors of BB are all in their 20's.

mean spirited indeed.

Another person still in the house because of Gerry. Lisa and Marcie.

Shame, Shame, Shame

Wrat1010

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 06:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think they are going to show everyone's speech now that the house population is down. They showed everyone for both Chiara's and Gerry's eviction. But I think Lisa erred -- she should have gave that speech as the reason for her vote and not as a goodbye message, so Gerry wouldn't have to be humiliated on live television.

Misslibra

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 06:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa said she wish she could of been the one to put Gerry up and avenge Eric. I'm sorry but I don't see anything wrong with that.

Bmh

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 06:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Did you guys ever think that because the numbers are getting smaller that it is harder to find nice things from all and they maybe had to air Lisa's comments..before there were so many people they could not air everybody's comments..I appreicate honesty alot it is very important to me and I now have Lisa in high regards now..She would have looked like a phony like the rest if she said take care we will miss you..ya right no reason to lie..tell the friggin truth!!..Dont be nice just to get a vote in the final dont look a phony be honest..Lisa did the right thing no matter what you people think..She doesn't like Gerry so why should she say nice things about him..it's ridiculous

Misslibra

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 06:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cameltoes, exactly!

Misslibra

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 06:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bmh, Amen!

Curlyq

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 06:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You know the more I read about Lisa's "honesty" the more it grates on my nerves because she never had the guts to be "honest" to Gerry when she was talking to him face to face. Even when he won the veto in week 1 she never had the guts to tell him not to use it. She told him she'd support his decision, then waited until she was in the DR to talk tough about how he'd be screwing himself if he did use it.

If she had been "honest" to Gerry all this time instead of just smiling politely and giving him no reason to think she held a grudge, I could appreciate her continuing to speak her mind in her farewell. Instead it just comes off as cowardly, waiting until he's out of the house to take a shot at him.

Deb

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 06:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
so I guess everyone who is saying "since she didn't like Gerry why should she say nice things"...I guess you never heard the saying "if you can't find something nice to say, don't say anything at all" She was so vindictive that she couldn't find words to say an appropriate goodbye...how unsportsmanship is that. How small, how mean, how childish.

Bmh

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 06:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Curlyq you have no idea what exactly Lisa said in the DR..she could have been rambling for several minutes about how she hated Gerry or other things..you dont know what she really said..they only showed that little clip of her..maybe she was really harsh and BB didn't want to show that..you dont know..stop making assumptions that you cant back up..

She was a heck of alot more honest than the rest of them thats for sure

Wink

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 06:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cameltoes and Miss Libra I agree. She gave an honest opinion and didn't sugarcoat with platitudes. Who knows what else she may have said that was edited out? Those who find fault with it being shown need to look to the editors not the person who said it.

Deb

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 06:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
now Bmh...to use your words...."stop making assumpitons that you can't back up" but yet you turn around and say, She was a heck of alot more honest than the rest of them". Thats just royal since you have no idea what the others said in their session. Maybe they all said bad things as well but since they didn't show that, you are making an assumption that they did not.

Bmh

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 06:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow Deb..you got me there..i apoligize..and I apoligize to you to Curlyq..but honesty has always been a important thing to me even in a game like BB ya people lie..but I am a very honest person..mostly because I was lied to alot when I was younger..so when so when someone has the guts to be honest even if it doesn't help them..that means alot to me..sorry to go on a long ramble like that..I just got worked up sorry again!

Abby

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 06:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She just could have said that the time in the house with him had been an experience... There is showing class, To me she and the others come off as two-faced. No courage to say these things to the man's face. Had to Trash him behind his back. Heck.. This is riding true to form.. why fool ourselves, BB takes the road well traveled. it not the high road.

Bizee

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 06:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The several shows of anti-Gerry sentiment (Unnecessary for all of it IMO), and this being the first negative goodbye, really seems to show a BB bias that was uncalled for.

Azriel

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 06:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Deb, I agree with you. She could have just said, Gerry I'm glad you are going back out with your wife and family. That would not have been insincere and it wouldn't have been childish and rude. The man is out of the house and he can't win the game now. She is still in there. She should have chosen the high road.

Deb

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 06:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
bmh...no problem. Sorry to hear that you were lied to as a child. No child deserves that. On a lighter note, everyone has told a lie in this game because it is a game. However, I do think people can be civil and respective while playing the game. Unfortunately, it is hard to tell who is since CBS edits whatever way they want. We never get a true picture.

Kathyb

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 06:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I will never understand why people take nominations/evictions so personally. 2 people must be nominated each week. Gerry's reason for nominating Lisa and Eric was NOT personal. He felt, as a lot of others did, that the foursome was too powerful and had to be broken up. For Lisa to turn around and lash out at Gerry is immature, to say the least. Also, it turned out that he did her a huge favor by getting Eric out. Up until then, she had virtually no chance of winning. Now she has a chance plus lots of people pulling for her.

Curlyq

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 06:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank you for your apology, Bmh. I assure you there's no assumptions here. If what she said was taken out of a longer ramble about how she hated Gerry, how would that disprove my point? That would be even worse!

My point is that she didn't have the guts to make these statements to his face when she had the chance, but saved them for the diary room. Like I said, if she'd been honest about her feelings all along I would've respected this, but she saved it for the farewell message so she wouldn't have to face him. What you call honesty I call cowardice.

Zeyna

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 06:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I couldn't believe they showed that to Gerry. As if it's not enough that he'll be upset to find out exactly what's been going in the house behind his back. That was really low.