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Maris

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If Jason didnt wave his virginity around how is it everyone from CBS on down knows the guy is a virgin. Did he write in the application form under the questions "Why I should be in big brother" "I am a 25 year old virgin"???

He made an issue of an extremely private piece of information somewhere down the road. If he brought it up then it is fair game for discussion. I think the guy is a manipulator just like good old Roddy. I am waiting for Danni to see it and turn on him.

Wrat1010

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You can be pretty sure CBS did ask him about this. Being interviewed for Big Brother is not like a normal job interview.

Bidasea

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that this is that life experience/age related/pop cultural norm conversation again..When I was a 20 something, no one, but a person in a paid occupation, would even consider getting between the sheets with someone they had just met..(especially on national TV) To even think that you have found a lasting relationship with someone just because he/she is willing to touch your privates, is ludicrous. We have all seen the conversations that happen after the"bonding intimacy" occurs..Wow.. the loyalty that jumping in bed inspires..It's not real, it's just a comforting illusion while they are in the house.As they used to say in my neighborhood..Why buy the whole cow, when the milk is free..Jason is going back into his community without feeling that he made a huge life mistake.

Theo17

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually kiki asked. Jason didnt offer it. we on this board should be careful not to let our loyaltys to a hg cloud our judgements of other hgs. Maris its obvious you want roddy. Jason doesnt becaome a bad guy just because he is not roddy

Gina8642

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Why shouldn't he bring it up? If his belief system is as he states, then staying a virgin is important to him, and his way of following his religion. It is a form a of preaching to let others know that he has done it. Yes, it's hard, but if it is important to you, you can do it too. He also seems to have zero problems with someone disagreeing with him. He also takes all with a great deal of humor.

Creampuff

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Intimacy takes on many forms, of which sexual relations is only one.

If there was to be certain criteria, other than age, that one would have to meet in order to become an adult, I doubt that would be included.

Jason appears to be his own person and marches to his own drummer. Unless it was illegal, how can he be faulted for that? I admire him.

Earthmother

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cindy to say someone must have sex to be intimate is yes....an opinion, and I made it clear that what I said was an opinion, so what is your point?

Earthmother

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I will not agree nor applaud anyone making negative personal comments about a young man who chooses when and with who to become sexual. He has a right to his privacy. I also have not heard him flaunt his virginity. The other hgs and posters here have done that.

Zachsmom

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
sex does not constitute intmacy..sex does not create intimacy..intimacy is a state of mind..I have had many intmate relationships where there is no sexual involvement..when you have an intimate relationship and then have sexual relations..then and only then you have sexual intimacy..

you can have sex with no intimacy

you can have intimacy without sex..


but..that's just my opinion..:)

Jimmer

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm sure that BB searches for contestants that meet certain profiles, one of which seems to be being a virgin. All I'm saying is that Jason doesn't seem to make a big deal out of it. He's not trying to suggest that other people should remain virgins - it's just his choice. By the way, I think that everything the houseguests do or say is fair game for discussion.

Maris

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
THEO, I was making a comment that if Jason didnt want it to be known he was a virgin then how did it get out there. That is also not placing any judgement on his decisions. What I think of his decision is my business and in my mind not worth discussing. How that statement came to be an obvious declaration that "I want Roddy" pretty much says it all in terms of your powers of observation. I find it interesting that if anyone makes any comment that isnt negative to Roddy it is turned into "wanting" him. I would suggest that you try and read the meaning of peoples posts before having a knee jerk reaction of oh they dont agree therefore they must want Roddy. Last week people were saying that I was a die hard Marcellas fan because I didnt like Gerry.

I am only addressing you personally because you used my name in a critical fashion. It annoys me to no end when people cannot refrain from attacking someone just because they posted something that didnt gel with what they want the world to be THEO.

Theo17

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
maris I was speaking in general about all the posters including myself in regards to our judgment getting clouded sometimes. Only the part about you wanting roddy was meant for you. I didnt think saying you wanted roddy was being critical of you.
I do not attack posters. I sure didnt intend on attacking you. I'm guilty of poor wording on these boards often. I'm sorry they came out directionless.

Theo17

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
By the way just to answer a direct question. I dont know if jason wanted out there or not. He didnt bring it up. Kiki asked him and he seemed reluctatnt to say but answered. He could have lied but he told the truth

Jimmer

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
BB tries to get people with certain characteristics/beliefs on the show to make it interesting. One of the types is a virgin. Another is gay. Another is Christian. Let’s face it. They would have tried to get a “black gay Christian virgin” if they could. Standard reality show stuff. To Jason's credit, he doesn't make a big deal over this particular "attribute".

Cindyluvsroddy

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 12:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
earthmother - sorry i posted my opinion in the wrong manner ... i respect your views :)

Lovemarc

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 12:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"They would have tried to get a “black gay Christian virgin” if they could."

Plenty of them to choose from, but you'd probably have trouble getting them to admit the gay part.

Earthmother

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He and Chiara had a personal conversation the first week and she told everyone. He was embarrassed about it.

She was making some sexual comments and he seemed uncomfortable..she said "what are you a virgin or something?" He didn't answer her and she yelled "OMG, JASON IS A VIRGIN." That's how the personal information got out there, not him running around judging people on their sexual conduct. As a matter of fact I think he has been quite graceful in the way he has handled much of the teasing, and he has never commented on the behavior of others who seemed proud of their numerous sexual partners and positions.

John316

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 03:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amen to all fellow Christians and those who respect the beliefs of others here, you've done a great job defending his playing of the game and life choices, virginity, etc.
Jason is a great witness for Jesus and I am so proud of him. None of us are perfect, but he is mature enough in his faith to know when to leave a compromising or uncomfortable situation and still walk in love with everyone. It can be so easy to find yourself compromising as a Christian because God's ways are often unpopular and the opposite of the way most in this world live.... and yet he has done a beautful job of living out his faith and all the while playing a great game!
to those who question his being "on fire" because he doesn't condemn or preach to people... others have already said it so well, Christians are called to be "light" and "salt" - meaning it's the way we live - not our words - that will prompt others to want to know Jesus. In fact, God tells us to always have an answer when asked, but not to get into sharing our faith with people unless He leads or we do more harm than good. Jason has been kind and loving to all... he doesn't condemn people for living/acting/talking the way they do, but at the same time he doesn't agree or participate or apologize for his walk with God. Anyone that has watched can see this.

No, he doesn't "wave" his Christianity around, but he doesn't hide it. It's just is who he is and true Christians can't separate their faith from who they are. It is sad to me that many are holding him (& Dani) to a different standard in this GAME, as if he shouldn't strategize or play the game because Christians should always be honest. Yes we should be honest, but we also play games and are not being dishonest because we don't show all our cards or yes, even bluff when necessary to win.

And regarding his virginity - I still can't believe anyone would attack or put Jason down because he chooses a different path, to be a Christian and follow God's Word. If you choose to have sex without commitment or whenever you believe is right for you, then fine, but be secure enough to allow him his choices. Instead many have questioned his sexuality/ability to be intimate? Amazing! Aren't these the same people who are supposed to be so "open-minded" and "free" thinking/living - I guess it's only OK to be open to what you agree with...

Keep the faith Jason and Jason supporters!

Earthmother

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 06:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
FYI..I never said I was a Chistian, so I hope you aren't speaking for me. If I am or I am not has nothing to do with it. People have a right to give their bodies to anyone they chose and they have a right to save it as long as they chose.

Unless the hg talks about it themselves and has no problem with it being open conversation then imo it's no one's business.

I only responded in the first place because someone made the comment that Jason is just trying to avoid intimacy and that's why he is a virgin. That kind of comment will always get my ire up.

Auntiedotcom

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
if jason were doing what jesus would do, he'd be out there in the back yard bringing amy in from the hammock where she has been asleep alone for hours while he sat and listened to the rest of the hgs trash her in myriad ways.

if he were MY child, i would be very ashamed of his behaviour this night.

Theo17

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
unbelievable. you see the way amy,roddy, marcy and dani act tonight but you say you would be ashamed of jason. Jason is not perfect. No human is but as long as you keep wanting to nail jason via religion I think I remember a saying let the first person without sin cast the first stone. If you are perfect and sinless feel free to keep bashing jason because he is flawed just like every single person I have ever known.

Auntiedotcom

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
theo, i hold jason to a higher standard than i do the other houseguests, because he obviously holds HIMSELF to a higher standard.

he has been one of my favorites since the beginning of this show. i am very upset with him tonight.

Zachsmom

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He put her to bed Autie..:)

Bmh

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Auntie..I think you spoke too soon..Jason unwillingly just got up and put amy to bed..GO JASON!!..nice to see somebody will a little decency in there

Wcv63

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bmh...not unwillingly...willingly...

I knew he would come through.