Patman | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 09:00 pm     After watching tonight's episode where Jason had Roddy in the HoH room to talk about Roddy telling everyone that Jason betrayed his trust by voting to boot Eric, Roddy was able to turn the tables on Jason by feeding into Jason's inherent guilt over that vote, and continually telling Jason that he trusts him, over and over and over again. What Roddy is doing it one of the oldest scams in the book: Roddy's playing the Confidence game where the scammer doesn't ask that you trust them, but they will impress upon the fact that they TRUST you and that alone feeds into naive people's vanity that a person would trust them to do the right thing. If you've ever seen "House of Games" or "The Grifters", then you know how the Confidence Game works. Anyhow, that is how Roddy garner's people support, he flat out appeals to their vanity by telling them that he trusts them totally to do the right thing, and Roddy is very good in always keeping this word (whatever that "perceived" word is to another houseguest), so the other person can't come back and say that Roddy betrayed them later. But since Jason DID betray Roddy, Roddy's using it to corner Jason into a moral quagmire, and Jason fell for Roddy's confidence scam. Roddy makes for great TV in how he's doing this to other competitors at the right time he needs to do damage control. Remember, everyone of these houseguests have weak spots, and Roddy finds it and exploits it for his own survival without breaking deals. |
Hillbilly | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 09:39 pm     ...it jest seems like a lot of hard work ta do this...i's would have trouble keepin ma ducks in a row...i think you have ta have alot of charisma to pull con scams off in the first place....Roddy is a very charismatic personality.... |
Lulu | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:13 pm     I would find it hard work too Hillbilly but I think Roddy's had lots of practice and he likes it. I don't fault him for using this strategy in the game, everything goes as far as I'm concerned, but I wouldn't like him in person I'm sure. |
Hillbilly | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:16 pm     ...not less'n he were on my side, lulu...but i's wuld still be a little leery of him... |
Observerx | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:17 pm     Roddy Quote: "Putting me on Big Brother is like putting Crocodile Dundee on Survivor". Per Gerry to Dani to Amy to Marc... |
Hoon4vr | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:18 pm     I noticed that too - the conversation turned from whether Jason could trust Roddy because he talked behind his back; to Roddy trusting Jason, making sure he'd look like an a** putting him up after being told so many times how trusted he was |
Dagny | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:20 pm     I hope we get to see the Crocodile Dundee clip of Roddy saying this to Gerry. Does anyone know if this is true? It quicky spread...LOL Gerry to Dani ... Dani to Lisa and Amy.. And Amy to Marc Talk about a grape vine!! LOL |
Observerx | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:23 pm     I'd like to see it for myself too, because I heard this third hand from Amy on the live feeds. It would not surprise me at all for him to have said this. |
Draheid | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:43 pm     Quote:Rolandcat Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 06:59 pm Sorry not used to posting..will pp Gerry and DAni sitting in green chairs by bathroom. G-if I had gotten POV I would have used it on Amy and put up the other (Roddy) and let the house decide. Dani-wow. G-Jason had told me he planned on Roddy and Qmy to put up. Dani-who did he talk last with ...Roddy (nods yes) G-Will said last year that he would say things and people would forget. I do not forget. I remember him (roddy) say two things. One-he said in the interview process that he said putting him in the house is like putting Crocidale Dundee(sp?)in Survivor? The second was when josh was up he said what do you think of waiting on josh to go later? Dani-asked where am I in his thinking? G-was not sure but you are causious and he sees that. G-Dani if I go, just so you know, you have my vote at the last. You do not have to worry about voiding my vote. Then Roddy came into bathroom and they left.
As seen in the LFP's as indicated in the quote. |
Observerx | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:47 pm     Draheid - Thanks for the clarification! When I heard Amy telling Marc I thought it was something new. |
Dagny | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:54 pm     what was the second thing?? LOL I forgot! LOL Also..I must have missed "the interview" cause I thought Gerry said it was Person to Person..(rod to gerry) If he did say in the it in the interview...then it was certainly a ploy to get him into the house... The other hg ARE under the impression that Rod said this to Gerry personally. |
Draheid | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:56 pm     Observerx: I have been searching for any mention of it in the early live feeds and have not been able to find it. It may have been a conversation before the feeds started up so we wouldn't have known about it before now. It seemed from the transcript that Gerry was certain of what he was saying. Anyway, hope that helps clear up a little anyway. |
Maris | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:58 pm     Gerry said that Roddy told him about his interview and that is what he said. I also understood the second thing to be that Roddy approached Gerry and asked him about postponing nominating each other to later in the game as a strategy move since he knew he was a threat. |
Observerx | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:00 pm     The way that Amy was telling Marc just a few minutes ago on live feed (as second hand info from Dani), it sounded like it was something that Roddy recently said to Gerry. This was the impression that she was giving Marc (and me) anyway. I slipped into the rumor mill |
Observerx | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:02 pm     Thanks Maris! |
Wendo | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:12 pm     I completely believe that Roddy said both those things. I would even go as far to say that like Dani, Gerry is well aware of what kind of player Roddy is. But for Gerry, it was easier to work with him, than against him like Dani. Interesting isn't it. Another Roddy confident biting the dust. LOL! Hahahaha. |