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Twiggyish

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 07:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Az,
They've got nerve to be telling Amy how to be a better person. She has to LEARN a lesson from them? grumbling grumbling.

You know when she finally leaves the house (I hope not next week), she'll see them in a different light. I think it's hard to be objective in that situation.

Stingerman

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 07:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The other sad thing is that as bad as Marcellus is at all of this, Danni is just as bad if not worse in the way that she treats Amy.

With any type of luck Amy will survive this week and win HOH next week and Nom both Danni and Marcellus!!!!! (PLEASE GOD PLEASE)

Sbw

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 07:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I feel sorry for Amy. With friends like hers, who needs enemies?

Ellenkats

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 07:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I vote for Amy to receive a visit from Bucky (and that he pees on Chi's woobie and takes a dump in Marc's flipflops).

Bigbrotherbelle

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 07:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You know, if they say Amy has not changed at all, then they are too self-involved to see anything beyond their nose. Yes, she still has some problems, but are they so perfect that they have no issues? She has become a lot more considerate than she was before she left the house. She still throws fits, but then realizes how silly it was and apologizes. Does Marcie ever apologize for his fits?

One of the biggest things that she says has changed about her is that she will now be more willing to let people in, that she won't just automatically assume they are going to hurt her. Who are they to judge if she has changed at all?

I think that is the saddest thing about this situation because they are doing exactly what she was always afraid people would do to her. How they treat her and talk about her is exactly why she was always afraid to let people know that she cares. I hope they are proud of themselves. One day they will each realize they are not the great person they think themselves to be... but then they can always blame the "editing."

Onlyhuman

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Stingerman, I would wish that but the worst thing in all of this is that Amy is NOT holding this against them and has, in fact, APOLOGIZED.

I find it so funny that the HGs who were all bashing her for being vindictive about Chiara are all going to benefit from the fact that she completely supports her friends.

Amy is going next week, that's a given. She won't try for HOH because she doesn't want to have to make that decision of who to put up. That's a weakness in this game but it's definitely a strength in real life.

Ellenkats

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I believe Amy that some of her selfishness and whining *is* teasing/joking. They are too quick to jump all over her for the least little comment, imo. None of them could hold up under that sort of scrutiny.

Bigd

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
too funny Ellenkats!!!!!!

Azriel

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Onlyhuman, I don't think that Amy will be going next week if she makes it through this week. If Amy doesn't get HOH next week then I would assume that Lisa, Jason and Danielle would nominate Amy and Marcellas. I fully believe that Danielle will make sure that Marcellas is out of there. She isn't afraid of Amy.

Danielle has that pesky problem that she has told three people she will take them to the end. If she manages to get the other two to vote out Marc then she has one of those problems out of the way.

Sisalou

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ROFLMAO - Ellenkats, now that would be perfect. I feel bad for Amy too. These other people need to take a look in the mirror and work on themselves.

I think Secretsmile is completely right about Amy being used to dealing disappointment gracefully.

Isn't Lisa the only one that has defended Amy. If so, she definitely gets points for that in my book. I'm glad Marc isn't my friend, I don't think my ego could take it. LOL

Dagny

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sisalou, Jason has "tried" to defend Amy in his own way...but Dani won't let him.

Onlyhuman

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
See, the problem is that all of them want only the "good" people to win. Amy is NOT considered one of the "good" people. Believe it or not, Marcellus is, now more than ever because he was the one who called Roddy on his stuff.

I think there might be a little hope for Amy, since I think Lisa somewhat likes her. However, Amy will NEVER campaign for herself against Marcellus and he will be doing his slander campaign on her, so I think she's gone if she doesn't get HOH.

Stingerman

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Love it Ellenkats, but can Bucky also bite Danni in the butt while he is there as well???

Lucas

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy 'they have milked me for everything they could ' This quote is from the live feed posts from AMy about BB3. I tend to agree, AMy was made a 'star' on the show, and used in some ways by not only the show but the other houseguests. I know I know, she is an adult and responsible for her actions, but listening to her talk tonight makes have more respect than I did in the past for her, and I am feeling bad for her as well.

Ellenkats

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Stinger -- well, as long as it's Dani's butt and not Lisa's (wouldn't want the poor pup to catch anything) :-)

Caramella

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
These poor Amy posts are cracking me up, especially since the speech was not shown. But now that we know all is well because they've made up, its safe to say what Marc said couldn't have been that cruel. Another thing is Amy is no baby, and for weeks now we've seen her doing what she wanted to do, whether her best pal, Marc liked it or not. She is so smitten with Roddy, the very man who got her evicted that she can't see straight that this is a game, and revealing the strategy of your allies is NOT cool. So, I don't see this girl as innocent as some of you do. That spoiled brat attitude of hers is to blame for alot of Marc's(and the other HGs) reaction toward her. Overall, Marcellas still cares about her, but he doesnt feel the need to pacify her behavior. I can't say I blame him either.

Lombadier

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I really feel for Amy tonight. I just got home and checked the boards and could not believe that Marc really went through with it (nominating Amy). Is she supposed to be the decoy? If he's such a friend to her he should have given her a break from being nommed and used Dani or Lisa as the decoy. I want anyone to win but Dani or Marc.

Sisalou

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dagny - I forgot about Jason.

Kapow

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy's reaction to being nommed shows that she is a fairly tough cookie. Though she has her foibles, I think she remains a strong player in her own way. She has been betrayed by pretty much EVERYONE in the house, yet she remains on a friendship level with all, for the most part. A true Southern woman, IMHO.

Onlyhuman

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Caramella, you're right, we don't know what the speech is. But we know he called her out on something. And, I'm really sorry, but he had little or no cause to be judgemental about her selfishness at this point! And we DO know that he talked about that because they have all mentioned it.

The fact that Amy has sucked it up and dealt with it in a calm, rational manner IS impressive. I personally would have told them all to go to heck and made their life miserable. No amount of being pleasant is going to make these people happy so why bother. And that's why I have a greater respect for her at this point, because I know I would not be able to handle it as well as Amy.

Azriel

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lombadier, Marc said that Amy was not the decoy. He said that he didn't want to put anyone up as the decoy. He thinks that Amy 'deserved' to be nominated.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Lucas

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Carmella, I think you are looking at this from a narrow perspective. Yes Amy is an adult, like the others, responsible for her actions, and no one would argue some were not that smart or nice. But the girl has a vunerablity, weekness, issues, neediness, or however you choose to define it that makes it quite sad to watch. Watching her making up with Marcellas so easily tonight, and forgiving Roddy for 'helping her see the light on humanity as only he judges it' is sad, and makes me worry. They use this about her then cut her down behind her back, She is smiling and forgiving two men that have cut her every chance they could this week, yet they try to act like her saviour, and she isn't even aware, that is pretty scary to me.it is differn't than with others, it just is, and they like you don't see the difference.

Caramella

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 09:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It's not that I don't see the difference, but since I don't always watch the feeds i'm not catching every glimpse of all whats going on in the house. Now, I do know Amy does have some insecurities, but some of the things she says and does is very hard for me to defend. Granted, Marc and Roddy are wrong if they are really chewing Amy down just because they KNOW they can. Roddy is obviously a sly snake who will try to play anyone he can, but I really do believe Marcellas cares for Amy. I think he just gets frustrated by her attitude.

Lucas

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 09:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Caramella
I agree with you for the most part, it is just Marcellas only chews her out in public, or behind her back. When alone with her he supports and encourages what behind her back he critizes is. I can't remember the exact example but tonight on the feeds he was bashing her about something to Dani, then when Amy brought it up in private he hugs her and tells her that is one of the things he loves about her. She really is getting the run around by him. Same for Roddy, he does the exact same thing. Civil debate! Thanks Carmella

Earthmother

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 09:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Ellenkats..say what you really think.

It's just star time for these two (Marc and Amy)
No one has the right to tell her how to act because didn't I hear a comment last night that went something like..."I don't need no daddy" from Marc about Gerry? He may feel he is protecting her from herself, but he would first need to look at his own behavior and somehow that just isn't going to happen. So until she stops apologizing to him for things that he says and does to her that she thinks are wrong and lets him know that he is guilty of the same things he will continue to judge her negatively. Not that he judges anyone positively, but she keeps admitting things are her fault to get his approval.

Onlyhuman

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 09:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Caramella, I really believe that Marcellus would tell you that he cares for Amy. However, I just think that kind of caring is toxic for Amy. She really doesn't need a friend who is continually running her down to her face AND behind her back.

I get frustrated by my friends at times, no one is perfect. However, I don't go around bashing them to anyone who will listen. I really try to give him the benefit of the doubt, but his self-righteous attitude towards his "friend" is nasty.