Archive through August 30, 2002
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Archive through August 30, 2002
Wendo | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 11:47 pm     Quad feed, 1 and 2 Interesting convo between Lisa and Roddy. He's really appealing to her "heart", the sense of "ickyness" in the game, and the like. Do you feel he's being sincere, or not? Honestly, with Roddy, I have no guage with Roddy. I can never tell when he's playing the game to ingratiate himself with a specific HG, or if the game is furthest from his mind. Anyone out there to chat about this? |
Dagny | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 11:49 pm     I am coming in half way... How did this conversation start? One thing...he is right about the mud slinging..and I can't say I have seen him take part in it. |
Maris | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 11:50 pm     I think he is sincere. The problem is why wait till now to talk about how they all treated Gerry. He sat there for weeks and didnt say anything and now he feels bad. This tape is for Gerry when he gets out. He knows Gerry is gone tomorrow and he knows what they all said about Gerry so its the play to he cameras before the guy goes home. |
Edno67 | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 11:50 pm     i think he's being honest in his talk to her,because he isn't one of the ones that is always putting others down like the rest of the pack.him nor jason,although jason does a little,,, he strays away from it and really doesn't like it and knows that it will hurt on the outside |
Wendo | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 11:55 pm     I do agree with the mud slinging. However, if it bothered him so much, why didn't he step up to the plate and talk to the other HG's about it? I would have. He's 30 years old, I'm 33 (today), where's the maturity and sticking up for people he professes about? And, if not, is he then only doing it because Gerry is going tomorrow? Because, if he cares as he says he does, why wait until now??? |
Annitar | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 11:56 pm     Sorry but I thought Roddy was being sincere when he cried over Chiara leaving him her Woobie... then he began trying to use his reaction to it to his advantage. Blech! That made me ill! I don't see anything Roddy says at this point to be anything other than trying to sway people. Pull the wool over there eyes like he did with Jason. Everything out of Roddy's mouth in that house is for Roddy! |
C1mag | Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 12:05 am     It'a an attempt to find a door way with lisa. If it's the sincerity card he will play it and mask it behind his thoughts on Gerry. Pay attention to this guy.... If he's playing, after he babbles he says, " You know what I mean?" He's looking for any door with this girl. I'm convinced Lisa gets him. She has the best poker face of the remaining players. Personally I think he creeps her out. Not in his appearance but his delivery. She totally see's what he is up too. She's quick with her responses which I like a lot. If you look at the order of things within the house at this point she is definitely a lock for at least the final four. Everyone has been mentioned as a nominee in the future with the exception of her. This is the best position you would want to be in right now. |
Guinevere | Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 12:10 am     OT: Happy birthday, Wendo! I turned 33 last week. As for the topic, it's Roddy we're talking about. No, I don't think he's being sincere. I think "sincerity" and "Roddy" are pretty much mutually exclusive concepts. |
Dagny | Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 12:16 am     I can't believe my ears... Dani is almost defending Gerry now. (Amy comments about gerry's feet...and Dani changes the subject and says he's got a wife of 28 years. He must be doing something right) I think BB must have said something to Dani and Roddy about all the nasty name calling...and mudslinging. |
Muse | Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 12:17 am     I don't think Roddy was being sincere, either. He *always* plays up to the person about to be voted out before they leave. He's been talking to Gerry more than usual this week, and now he's quite possibly just saying nice things about him in case it airs. Roddy has been guilty of saying nasty things about Gerry behind his back, and the only time I've really seen him say anything to the others is when he thought that Gerry overheard them when bringing out water for the hot tub. I don't think it's a coincidence that this is only a few days before Gerry's eviction. Roddy tends to tell people whatever they want to hear. For example, with Marcellas he's all ready to talk strategy, but with Lisa he claims to be sick of it. |
Bigbrotherbelle | Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 12:17 am     Like others said he should have long ago "stuck up for Gerry," to use a term he so loves. BUT also, he is one of the first to attack Amy STILL, so once again he needs a quick look in the mirror as he's criticizing others. |
Wendo | Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 12:21 am     Guinevere, thanks so much for the b-day wishes! So kind of you. I love this board and all the posters on it. I know that we posters sometimes have very heavy and, at times, seemingly contentious debates, but I know it's not personal. Never any hard feelings here. Anyway, back on topic...So glad to see ya C1mag, it's been awhile. I have to say, while I do think Roddy was being sincere, I also felt he had motivations behind it to gain access to Lisa. I do think Lisa is a strong player, I dig her quite a bit. I hope she continues to watch Roddy and not fall into his venus fly trap mind. LOL! |
Maris | Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 12:23 am     I think he is sincere about the regret for the way Gerry was treated. Roddy reminds me of what Ariel Sharon calls "appeasers" . He wasnt about to compromise his postion in the house by objecting to what was being said about Gerry but now that he is going out and it is politically correct he will voice his objections. I dont like Gerry,but in my book Roddy is a creep because if he didnt agree with what they were saying and if he thought it was wrong, he should have stepped up to the plate. He is just as guilty as the rest of them. |
Saba | Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 12:31 am     HAPPY BIRTHDAY WENDO
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Vonne | Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 12:38 am     Danielle and Jason did the same, this from the LFs --- Dani I feel sorry for Gerry though Jason: I think we're all guilty of getting on him about his habits. (more missed it but about his hygein) I try to watch it and stand up for him now. (missed a lot here) --- With Gerry leaving tomorrow I guess it's okay to defend him, no worries that they'll be ostracized for speaking up for him. Sad. |
C1mag | Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 12:39 am     Hey Wendo!! Yep I've been busy with several accounts from work and have only been able to lurk ocassionally. You've been doing a great job!! I'm all set for tomorrow to post right after hoh comp... It's gonna be good! Anyway.. Here's how I see Roddy... He senses their sincerity about emotional issues and then mirrors that sincerity. He saw the house crying over Chiara leaving and followed closely. We've touched on this topic with this man before. I truly believe he could give a damn about any of them in general. He simply gives them a piece of their own selves in order to identify. Case in point would be someone like Lisa. I think he assumes Lisa is a softy. I've noticed he has tried the Eric card, the Chiara card, The Josh card... but she never gives him what he is looking for. He's got her all wrong. I will never forget how Josh tried to play to her emotions and she looked as if she really fealt for him. He left the room and she started busting up laughing. Roddy and Dani are both hers for the taking. She's just waiting to see which one emerges as the house leader in this game after this week. He has no idea how well she is playing this game. |
Allietex | Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 12:40 am     "To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men" Abraham Lincoln |
Wendo | Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 12:43 am     Thanks Saba!!! Back on topic...yes, everyone seems to be in regret mode. Little late now. Even Jason and Roddy, neither stepped up to call people on their behavior. Sheesh. Worried about that final jury vote I suppose. Continuing to watch the convo...Roddy said he is not superior to others. Hmm, hmm. Ooookay. Anyway, what bugs me a lot about Roddy is he's SO concerned about what he says in front of the cameras. It really takes away, for me as a viewer, any ability to KNOW him. He stops mid convos to not say something, he's VERY controlled in the DR. (Notice how he sits forward, addressing the camera with his eyes straight ahead.) I just can't get a fix on the guy. |
Maris | Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 12:45 am     You got it Wendo, that is exactly right. For Roddy it is all about what he says in front of the cameras. He never lets his guard down so you never get a sense of who this guy really is. |
Bigbrotherbelle | Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 12:45 am     I know that this is enormously intereszzzzzz oh! interesting conversation, but I hate being forced to listen to Roddy drone on. Please give us something else on 2 of the feeds, the lizards, the silent FOTH, the creaking eliptical machine, Jason in the shower (did I say that?), anything! Edit: Dani, Jason and Marci on F1 and 2. Thanks BB! I guess I should have stipulated anyone but Dani LMAO. That's ok, I'm starting to sound like the hgs, complaining to BB so much. |
Wendo | Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 12:46 am     C1mag said, "Hey Wendo!! Yep I've been busy with several accounts from work and have only been able to lurk ocassionally. You've been doing a great job!! I'm all set for tomorrow to post right after hoh comp... It's gonna be good! Anyway.." Heya, thanks for the props. Much appreciated. Oh, I'm so bummed about tomorrow nights show. I'm in Chicago and we have a Bears game (Grrrr.) So, it doesn't air until 1 or 2 tape delay. So, I'll be getting my info from the show thread. Re: Your Roddy comments. Uh, huh. Yep, yep. |
Wendo | Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 12:49 am     Meant to add...I really think Lisa is a solid shot as a winner in this game too. (Despite some of the rather, ahem, icky comments about Gerry.) She really can go either way, Dani, or Roddy. It all depends on who goes further of the two. Though, I'm now starting to wonder...could Lisa maybe win against Roddy? I said earlier that Roddy, if he gets to the final 2, would likely win. But, now I don't know... Maris, yep, yep. |
Groucho | Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 12:52 am     This is the same little game they play every eviction week. In the lead up to evicting someone, they all feel the need to demonize that person. This serves the purpose of justifying to themselves and to each other that it's okay to boot that person because they are so horrible. It helps soothe their guilty conscience while at the same time pushing their eviction agenda. Once it's clear that the person is going (or has gone), they back off. No need to kick someone when they're down. They don't want to look like the bad guy. And they especially don't want the person to vote against them in the final vote. So, suddenly the evictee is such a wonderful (but unfairly treated) individual who will be missed. It happened when Amy was evicted -- they all tore her apart and then later sat down and told her how wonderful she was. It happened with Josh -- they all confronted him on the crap he'd pulled but they were all friends by the time he got booted. It happened with Chiara -- they all went to tears when she actually left. Now it's happening with Gerry. Next week it will be someone else. It's all either amusing or disgusting, depending on how you look at it. |
Dagny | Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 01:35 am     Is anyone following this conversation anymore?? I pop into that feed every little while...but seems pretty boring. (first impressions of all the HG's) |
Wendo | Friday, August 30, 2002 - 01:39 am     Another Lisa and Roddy conversation tonight going on right now. They're on feeds three and four. He's talking to Lisa about Gerry, his leaving, the way the eviction was announced, etc. The interesting thing, Lisa said to Roddy that she felt glad he was gone for Gerry's sake because a lot of people had been talking to him and it was good to get him out of the evil. This coming from the girl who called him a pervert, pedophile, and sexual harasser. *rolls eyes at Lisa...* Now he's talking to her about the game. How he thinks people think keeping Gerry was an idea because of last year and that wasn't what was going on here. Riiiiight Roddy... |
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