If Roddy wins HOH, will he nom Dani and Lisa?
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Dutchlizzy

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 07:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If I were Roddy, I would put up D and L. I would tell L she was the decoy. Roddy has made no secret to J that he wants D out of the house. R is too smart not to have figured out that D, L and J are tight. He breaks up the threesome, which is more advantageous than trying to go for Marcellas and Amy. Then he still gets to work his magic on Amy and eventually get her to turn on Marcellas. That way, Roddy doesn't break his word to Marcellas, and gets Amy to do his dirty work for him. Roddy has no agreement not to put up Dani. Her agreement with him was that he would not put her up the week he was already HOH in exchange for her word not to put him up if she ever gets HOH. He also has no agreement not to put up Lisa, to the best of my knowledge, and he could tell her she was the decoy anyway. Lisa can't vote, so Dani can only be sure of J's vote. A and M will get to decide who goes. If J wins POV and saves D over L, R will put up M, and if he fails to break up the 3some, will at least break up A and M.

Any thoughts?

Romans8_1

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 07:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
POV becomes very important at this point. I think the safest to go is either Roddy or Amy. Any other combination will cause the POV to be used to get one of these 2 on the block.

What555456

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 07:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think Roddy wants HOH for the same reason Dani does not want it. Why make enemies at this point? I am also surprised to read that Rod has told Jason that he wants Dani out. I thought that was the whole reason why Jason did not use the POV.

Given, that, however, if Roddy should get HOH, you may be very right that he will put up Dani and Lisa. I don't think he will lack the courage to go after this biggest threat and I suspect he feels that Lisa is the one he has least control over. Jason, Amy and Marcellus all fawn over him -- so why lose the groupies?

Jan

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 07:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that Roddy thinks he has converted Lisa to his team. He was up all night charming her and telling her how he would be there for her if she is sad or lonely. I don't think he would take the chance of losing her.

I also think he thinks he has Jason now (and he could very well be right about that. Jason did NOT defend Dani when it was clear that Roddy was hinting about going after her).

Maybe he sees his team as Jason and Lisa with Marc hanging in there maybe pitted against Dani. So it might be logical for him to nom Dani against Amy and tell each one that she is the decoy to get the other out.

That would be a true test to see whose side Jason and Lisa are really on. (Marc has already said he is on the side of whichever one gets HOH -Dani or Roddy)

So my guess is Dani and Amy

Robinyyes

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 07:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree. Putting up Danni and Lisa makes it easier to get rid of Danni. mar and amy would both vote Danni out and really that is all he would need for this week. I also agree that if Jason were to win VETO that putting up Mar would benefit...but Roddy should warn Mar and Amy about that possibility so they could help Jason/Lisa/Dani not win Veto.

Jagger

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 07:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy has pretty much said that he was going after Danny, but I think he would put Jason up against her, saying that he needs to eliminate a vote for Danny and that he is using Jason as a decoy, I'm not sure if Roddy is on to Lisa and Danny, he knows they have talked but he is not really sure where Lisa is sitting. ( which by the way she is sitting on the fence, she will go with who ever she thinks will have the best chance to bring her into the finals. I don't think Lisa has given her word to anyone about voting or nominating. She has said in the past she does not like to do that, and the only time she has done that was with Chi and Josh.

Minnyace01

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 07:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Should he win HOH, he needs to put up Dani and Lisa and convince Marcellas and Amy to take out Dani.

Nimtu

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 07:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think if Roddy really wants Dani out he won't nominate her with Amy. I think he's bright enough to know that Amy would go and Dani would be all out to get him. He may go for the easy way and do Amy and Marcellus (claiming to break them up) or be smart and put Dani up against Jason then she'd be sure to go. (Think anybody who wants Dani or Roddy gone should put them up vs. Jason)

Jasper

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 07:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Danni and Jason are the way to go as well.
Either way he gets rid of a threat.
Then he will have to try like he11 to get POV, or Amy, I'm sure she's all starry eyed over him and will back him up.

Victoriafla

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 08:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I really want to see Roddy get HOH. I would like to see some game playing where people follow through with what they say. I think Roddy would put up Dani and Amy, with Dani going.

Romans8_1

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 08:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If Danni goes up, Lisa or Jason would definately use POV to get her off and Marc might (unless he put her up). If Roddy puts Jason up (decoy or not), expect Jason to take Roddy to the mat on this.

Jayalltheway

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 08:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Except Roddy has promised not to put Jason up. He would come off looking like a real sleaze if he did. And if Jason were up against Dani, Jason would go. It would only take two votes and I think both Lisa and Marc would save Dani.

At this point I don't know who Roddy could put up against Dani for a Dani boot. The only way it would work is if Amy or Marc won HOH and put up Dani versus Lisa or Jason then Roddy and Amy or Marc would boot Dani.

So really the one in more danger next week is Roddy because Dani is a hard boot.

Marameko

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 08:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dutch my thought is: "PLEASE GAWDDDDDDDDD NOT RODDY as HOH".
Actually a good plan, but then I want D/J to win.

Bailey

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 08:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If Roddy doesn't go for HOH, he can start packing tonight. He will be so outta there.
I think the only way for him to get Dani out is to put her up against Lisa and then pray that Jason doesn't win POV.
This is my dream scenario.. I would love to see Dani out next week, but I don't really believe it'll turn out this way.

Theo17

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 09:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
roddy is working lisa big time. Keeps telling her how beautiful she is. I wonder if she will fall for it. she like amy seems to like the attention.

Cricket

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 01:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bailey, if only that were true. Unfortunately, Roddy should have already have been out. He seems to have everyone's 'WORD' not to nominate him, but I can't see where he is blocked from nominating anyone. How stupid are these fools?

I think if Roddy gets HOH, he will nominate Danielle and Marcellus.

Bailey

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 01:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cricket, if you're right, and he puts up Danielle and Marcellas.. then Marc is outta there.
The votes to evict would be:
Jason: M
Lisa: M
Amy: D
I don't want to see him put Jason up (even as a decoy.. it would come out looking so mean), so the only way to get Dani out is to put her up against Lisa.
I believe if Dani or Lisa wins HOH, both of them will put Roddy up regardless of any previous promises.

Bmh

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 01:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Danielle is going to be VERY difficult to boot almost impossible..Roddy will have to think of a really concrete plan to get rid of her because she has 2 strong allies backing her at the moment..Dani would win against Amy,Marcie,and maybe even Jason..Lisa is more interesting..I think that is up in the air..but Dani will be tough to boot..so if Rod wins HOH he better know exactly what he is doing

Cricket

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 02:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bailey, I agree that Marci would be out of there. Ha! Ha! Roddy would be doing Dani's dirty work for her! I thought he might put her up with Marcellus so he could use the excuse that Marcellus wouldn't vote for her. I can't see him putting up Lisa, even as a decoy. Yikes, she would really be angry with him. If he put Amy up with her, Amy would go and he would show his cards.

You are right, Bmh, it will be hard for him to nominate her...at least I sure hope it will be. I don't understand Jason not putting Roddy up and then telling Danielle she shouldn't either. It's making me very worried about the outcome of this game.

Misslibra

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 02:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think if Roddy gets HOH he will nom Dani and Marcellas, or possibly even Jason and Dani. I don't think he would nom Lisa. She was one of them remember. They are the last two of their kind, sort a speak.

Wavelength

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 02:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know what reasons he may give but I agree that he would put up Dani and Marcellus. They are the two he hasn't been able to get under his spell.

Gina8642

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 02:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Roddy will go after Amy. I have no reason I can state. It is just a feeling.

Maybe he'll put up Lisa with her.

Blossumtree

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 02:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
the way he's been cozying up to lisa lately makes me think he'll put up marc and amy. jason's not an option and i don't think he has the hutzpah to put dani up and if he did he'd have to put her up against jason to ensure her departure, and even that isn't a certainty.

Dutchlizzy

Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 03:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am also for D/J/L, but when I look at where they are weak, it is the scenario I first described. Roddy told J he wouldn't put him up in the HOH this last week. He told M he wouldn't put him up in the Hot Tub. I'm not sure if he gave the same assurance to Amy, but I am positive that he didn't give this guarantee to Dani or Lisa. As far as the original 6 go, or the "couples alliance", they are history, and Lisa's continued objections to discuss voting with Roddy has stymied his efforts to get Lisa's word that she won't come after Roddy. He therefore has not been willing to give her any protection.

I think the only 2 people he hasn't said he wouldn't nominate are Dani and Lisa. Strategically, I think it is his only move. He will tell Lisa she is the decoy, since he knows that D and L think he doesn't know about their alliance with J, so he knows she will believe him. But he knows about the alliance, all right. That guy is a mind reader. What do you think he's doing in the shower when he's "thinking?" He's using his "magic" to figure out what they are up to. This way, he hopes that A and M will vote out D, L will stay thinking she was just the decoy, and he won't lose E's or L's vote at the end. If someone uses the POV to save D, he will tell L that he'll put Amy up.