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Kailas

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 07:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Some good researcher could go back and get the quotes from Rotty as he browbeat Chiara, Jason, Josh, and now Marcellas. I'll bet the wording would be verrrrry similar. It is his way of abusing and manipulating. This is not staged. It is the man's way of operating. I hope the people in his life are taking note.

Keiffer

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You guys I want all of this remembered next year when BB starts and we all start bashing the better looking people that for a group... look powerful the first week... then go out 1,2,3.... and that is we are not allowed to bash them for telling lies. That is part of the game when Danny or Marcy do it, but it is evil when another does it.

Ellenkats

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I haven't felt a single word out of Roddy's mouth was sincere -- it's all a manipulation game, imo. Perhaps I don't like him for playing the game so hard -- he plays 24/7. I guess I don't want him to win because he wants it too much. Disappointment might do him some good. Like he keeps telling Amy, he has a lot to learn too.

Theo17

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Herm that was my line and I believe it to be 100% true. In fact he would want a thank you.
he always says go look at the tapes. Like thats an option and everytime he says go look at the tapes he is lying.
ABR= ANYBODY BUT RODDY!

Battlestar

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ellenkats---Danielle wants to win this game with every fibre of her being...

Bastable

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer, not all of us think that. That's falling into the logical merry-go-round that Roddy sets spinning. I just think he should rightfully be nominated because he's the biggest threat in the house, mathematically, when it comes to the final two.

Theo17

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
keifer after you just told me that roddy didnt try to save gerry last week I realize you are actually seeing the feeds and shows differently then we do.

Wendo

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Efilon, the difference between Roddy's manipulations and Dani's manipulations are partly due to delivery. Roddy obfuscates and confuses, that makes the person on the other end of the convo not entirely trust him, because, partly, they don't know for sure what he's saying. Dani, however, is plain and straight forward. So, the other person feels assured, comfortable, like they can trust her.

I'll say it again, I think Roddy's been playing an excellet game. Fantastic. However, he's so convoluted at times that it is almost too much for these people. Sometimes, being straightforward is the way to go. *shrug*

And, in no way do I feel Dani is sitting pretty at all. Look how the cards came crashing down for Roddy. That could easily happen to her as well.

edited to add...I really wish those who post about Roddy would stop calling us Roddy haters. I don't hate the guy. I find him fascinating. Love watching him work his Roddy magic. I don't call people Jason haters, Dani haters, Amy haters, etc. Just because we post about Roddy and his machinations and moves in the game does not mean we hate him. Sheesh.

Hermione69

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It was a good line, Theo. I can totally see it happening!

Fix2scream

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the only one above board right now is Amy. She may be annoying at times, but I don't see her doing all the manipulating the others are doing.

If I'm wrong, I know I'll be finding out real soon. Waiting to hear from you. :-}

Keiffer

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Theo... I am on the east coast and can not stay up until 4am every night to see these convos happen live every time.


I do know that from what I have seen of Roddy he is very careful with his conversations about the game. He doesn usually say anything that can come back and get him. I would be shocked if he did with Lisa. I do think that he more than likely talk to her about what she thought about the vote, and probed a bit to see if she was voting for Amy, and if so if she was movable. That is the game and not a reason to be called the devil. I am sure if Lisa seemed firm in her resolve to vote out Gerry that he backed off.

Theo17

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
herm if there werent cameras everywhere i bet it might have with lisa

Maris

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The best thing that can happen is if Amy wins the power of veto. If you recall all the other nominations the HOH has been obsessive about the POV. In this case Marc and Danni dont even talk about it. To them its a non issue, they dont think Amy would use it.

If she wins POV she can just smile at Marc and say, I veto Roddy because he is no worse a viper than anyone else. She has to know her days are numbered but at least she will put Marc in a postiion that he has to put someone else up in Roddy's place and it will be another week of trying to dump Roddy.

Theo17

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
keifer first he spoke to gerry then lisa then tried to work a deal with gerry then back to lisa. Once he saw lisa and marci wouldnt budge he went with the crowd. I dont care that he tried. I care that he lies about it and then acts insulted when marcy brings it up

Theo17

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
amy wont sacrifice herself for that man

Meggieprice

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bastable, I was thinking exactly that- everyone there has the right to nominate anyone they want for whatever reason- it doesn't have to be logical, reasonable, honorable, fair.... and one of the best reasons is "You are the strongest biggest threat".

Noone would want to be next to Roddy in the final two. The narcissistic six alliance would come in to play at that point, as would his careful strategy of never saying negative things in DR.

Marcellas did the right thing for him (and for ME! lol) I just hope they circle the wagons around Marc and keep him calm and safe this week.

you guys might get a kick out of the fact that my husband and son proudly brought to me in my sick bed of pain tonight a celebratory CITRONA! lol!

Theo17

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just find it hillarious the difference in dignity between gerry and roddy when nominated.

Wendo

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Meggieprice said, "The thing is, they all have to lie at some point, scheme, backstab, manipulate, strategize-that's the game."

Yep, right on. And, it's also a matter of whether you get caught or not lying. Roddy got caught. It happens.

Keiffer said, "and that is we are not allowed to bash them for telling lies. That is part of the game when Danny or Marcy do it, but it is evil when another does it."

Lies are part of the game. But Roddy's been playing the "I don't lie game" and now he's been caught. He put himself on a pedastal as an upright and honest person. If you're going to do that and then lie, you have to be prepared for the day you get caught. Obviously, getting caught in the end (as a final 2) is best. But, so far with Roddy, it has backfired. Honestly, if he hadn't kept saying the "I'm a great guy. I'm straight up. I'm honest." blah, blah, blah, he'd probably be better off.

Itscrazy

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have never wanted Roddy to win the game because I felt like he was the strongest player and I like to root for the underdogs;) But a couple of things....Roddy deserves to blow a gasket. Most of the HG's that have been put up have. Why shouldn't he? In his opinion he has tried to play the game with integrity. Has he? I don't know if he has. Maybe so compared to some of the others. In his mind he has!
The other point is that he reminds me somewhat of my husband. In being that they both can read people and know the right things to say. I don't see that as manipulation but a quality that is an asset. Think about who will go further in their life. Someone that speaks their mind and PO's other people off or someone like Roddy who knows how to handle most situations. Roddy will do just fine with his life:)

Cricket

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Excellent post, Kailas. Yep, the people close to him should see this pattern emerging and realize this is Roddy 24/7, game or no game.

What I can't understand is why Jason doesn't speak up and say Roddy, you just told me last week you didn't have a deal with anyone else! Now you are saying you had a deal with Marci. Were you lying to me so I wouldn't put you up?

Let's see what the big man says to that.

Keiffer

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Meffgie... given that theaory about the final two then Lisa had better be watching out.

Theo17

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
exactly wendo. Its the self rightous hypocrite act that people hate not the lies themselves. Lies are in the rules. Ecen the self proclaimed "goodpeople" lied a lot. How about roddy pretending he had nothing to do with ord to amy? More deception

Meggieprice

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He was very careful to speak about the deal with Marc when noone else was around, Cricket. He kept checking and lowering his voice.

But Marc will be so upset I am sure it is only a matter of time until Jason finds out.

Wendo

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Theo, about Roddy lobbying for Gerry to stay. It was on last nights show, remember? He told Gerry, I'll talk to Lisa and see if I can get her on board. He did lobby for Gerry to stay.

Theo17

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 08:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
cricket has jason heard about that deal yet?