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Stingerman

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 02:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think Roddy's done making Amy feel bad just yet. I think we will see him make her feel about about her decision at least 3 to 4 times a day.

He is far from finished with that girl not to mention Jason and Lisa.

Kalekona

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 02:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
giving Roddy any vote at all is a mistake! It could back fire.

Roddy is free to show emotion that's not the problem he is trying to make amy think she is the bad guy here- forgetting the fact he saw to it she was evicted with ZERO votes in her favor to "teach" her a lesson. Well I think Amy just taught him a lesson. He blew it and he needs to just accept it not try and take it out on her.

Bbfanatic

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 02:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i hope it backfires! hehe

Addicted2bb

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 02:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it's ironic that Amy went around yesterday telling everyone how glad she is that she is smart, yet she's not smart enough to know that the rest of the group is playing her and will vote her out next week. If she thinks that she is going to get any loyalty for not using the POV to take Roddy off the block, she's dumb!

Solidsnake

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 02:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
she shoulda worked a deal for herself.. sadly she did not

Maris

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 02:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She is hopelessly dumb about people.

Wadsters

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 02:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Reading thru this Thread reminded me of one last year when several people were ready to pounce to lay claim to being the 1000th post.
I wonder if......:)

Seanflynn

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 02:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Addicted, she could win HOH next week
Her best bet though would be to accept being nominated with Marcellus next week, have M voted off, then win HOH the following week
She'd then be in final 3, and who knows then?
Also, we don't know what twist is coming

Solidsnake

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 02:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
she may not make it to next week with these new rumblings takin place.. lol

Poser

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 02:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I disagree. If J, L or D win HOH, Marcie is gone next week.

Sanfranjoshfan

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 02:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Seanflynn - Don't worry...I am not trying to manipulate you with guilt. I, like Roddy, have no hypnotic powers.

:-)

Kalekona

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 02:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Don't see how you can say Amy is letting them use her the truth is if she had saved Roddy she would be gone thursday- this way she may go next week <she knows this> or she could get HOH or Marcellas could get on Dani's

Earthmother

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 02:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He has every right to be angry, he is being blamed for the actions of others. Just like Marc blames Amy for how she makes him look, Roddy is blamed for what Josh and Chiara did. They have no less victimized him than they have her.

He was correct when he told her if she didn't use the POV she will be gone..you know what, she will be. He was right when he told her she was their pawn..you know what, she is. Why do you think they wanted her back in that house? To do their dirty work..attack her for it and then send her out to do it again..who is really vicitmizing this girl?

Who the hell are they to tell bb no more alcohol. Since when do minors get to be in the house? Who is really manipulating Amy and making her feel like trash?

It's so easy to lay blame on Roddy, but the truth is he was telling her the truth. Saving herself this week would not help her, she was just doing their dirty work. She will be gone next and handed those people the game. By saving him this week Marc would have had to show his hand and she could have avenged his nasty speech to her. She gains nothing but one more week of misery by staying in that house.

Curlyq

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 02:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It's important to remember that none of us can predict what's going to happen next week. Amy could very well win HOH again, or they could decide to boot Marcellas next week, or the producers could bring out that last twist. There is no way to know for a fact that Amy is going next week just because she didn't keep Roddy around. Roddy sure wouldn't have protected her had he stayed anyway.

Scifi_Writer00

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 02:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy has got to realize there is no way in heck she is going to win this game. If I was her, I'd veto Roddy, just to tick off D/L/J. I don't know if this has already been mentioned, but I'm not going to read 900+ posts and find out.

Seanflynn

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 02:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Earthmother, Amy is not necessarily gone next week.
If Marcellus and Amy are nominated next week, more likely Marcellus is gone.
If Amy wins HOH following week, she is in last 3.
And he is completely wrong about what her actions will cause this week.
Had she'd used POV, odds are overwhelming she would be gone this week.
They wanted her back in the house not to be their pawn, but because the alternative, Eric, would have been Roddy's pawn.
And he wants her to do his dirty work.
And he's being a hypocrite -- he wanted Josh to accept his fate, but refuses to live by the rules he sets for others.

2addicted

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 02:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with the above posts (regarding Amy having to play this game for THIS week)

Roddy himself used the sports analogy of saving
a good player in a tournament and then getting
eliminated early. He didn't listen to his own
words, because for him, everything was endgame.

Simple fact. If Amy had taken R off the block, she would have been gone this week. By not using
POV, she buys herself AT LEAST one week.

This game is filled with surprises. Expect the unexpected! She wins HOH. D,L & J decide to
get rid of M during his vulnerable week. BB throws in a new twist. Anything could happen.

Last year Nicole and Hardy looked like a done deal. But you never know. I believe that Amy has
(almost) as good a shot as the others.

Wiseolowl

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 02:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nothing really deep to add to this post - except that it appears to be the 956th to do so and just wanted to be part of history - it does say something however - that whatever you're thoughts are on Amy she's a loose cannon that shakes up the game.

Earthmother

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 02:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Her getting hoh..That is the one thing they are the most afraid of. I hope she does and I hope she puts up Marc and Lisa..gives them a chance to finally get Marc out of the house. But she won't put up Marc cuz she is so needy, and somehow irregardless of how dysfucntional his caring is she thrives on it.
I can't believe how they have so many people try out and they come up with these people who are not imo a cross section of the American public. Five out of 6 women with esteem problems and serious issues with men.

Lori...bad marriage finally trying to stand on own two feet and make some decisions for herself.

Tonya..too many issues to count.

Chira..count the threads about the neediness and self admitted self loathing.

Lisa...not too sure but obviously something happened to make her fear older men.

Amy..you see it happening before your eyes. Allows and in some cases welcomes victimization for attention.

Dani is the only woman on this show who has some self esteem and appears to be able to conduct herself as a player equal to the men on the show.

Seanflynn

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 03:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Earthmother -- terrific post

Allietex

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 03:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There have been six POV meetings. In five of them the POV was not used. I am sure some of those felt great anger at not being vetoed. However, I do not recall one of them berating the person who did not use it. Correct me if I have forgotten.

Of course Roddy had the right to be angry. That is human nature. But we are not really talking about rights here. We are talking about common human politeness. The POV was over. She did not use it. He should have accepted it gracefully. I don't even say he has to be nice to her if he does't want to, but what he said was uncalled for and showed a lack of class.

Wendo

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 03:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wouldn't be so sure Amy's staying this week. I think Lisa is working an angle with Roddy to keep him in the house with the sympathy vote. Dani votes to keep Roddy (she told Lisa she wants to do it), Lisa, now working with Roddy, votes to keep him, Ja votes for Amy. Roddy stays.

The only thing Dani "could" be doing is setting up Lisa to see how she votes. To know if she can trust her. Dani "says" she'll give the sympathy vote, but ends up not doing it. If the vote is 3-0, she knows she can still trust Lisa. If the vote is 2-1 then she knows where Lisa really stands. (My sister suggested this after I called to tell her about PoV.)

However, I just don't think Dani is that smart. I don't know if Lisa is smart to come up with her possible scenario either, but she's got Roddy's ear, so I give the first scenario more weight.

I know it in my gut. Roddy's not going anywhere on Thursday.

Personally, I think Dani and Ja should go with the word they gave each other a couple nights back when they promised each other to evict Roddy. If she insists to give Roddy the sympathy vote, well that's it then. I'll officially be off the Ja and Dani bandwagon for such poor game playing.

I don't understand this "need" for sympathy votes. They were all aware that 10 of them would get evicted at one point or another. Why take such a risk? Plus, with so little people in the house now, unanimous votes are going to be more likely. Bad game playing imo.

Bbrules4ever

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 03:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
roddy STILL raking Amy over the coals for not vetoing him!!! ARRRGGHHH....i think he is trying to make her CrAcK!!! she is obviously devastated

Draco

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 03:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy is making me sick right now talking to Amy making her feel guilty for "making easy choices and focusing on what is easy" and not making "hard decisions and keeping her word". He told her it's easy for her to feel guilty and apologize but hard to do the right thing. Amy isn't saying much.

Bbrules4ever

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 03:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
what an evil BULLY!!! she is in tears and he wont let up on her! how dare him.