Archive through August 31, 2002
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Archive through August 31, 2002
Ddr1135 | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 06:59 pm     Costacat....that works for me too! LOL |
Puzzled | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:05 pm     I don't care if Amy has a million character flaws--it is just plain nasty, rude, vile, and disgusting to humiliate her in front of the others and on national TV like that. There is absolutely no excuse for M's bilious attack. She didn't deserve that--at all. Especially when he pretended to be her friend!! Even in private, who is he to set himself up as so superior to her that he should make her over? What a disgusting performance. Why didn't she get up and walk away? Why didn't anyone say anything? Well, maybe they were stunned--I was. |
Costacat | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:05 pm     <snicker> And I'd even pay to see that, Ddr! |
Screeminmeemie | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:08 pm     Amy should have tossed his white robe and flip-flops over the wall and spray painted all the mirrors in the house. That alone would cause Marcellus to have a total breakdown. |
Sisalou | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:09 pm     Chance - I know! I couldn't believe he had the gall to say he finally realized that Gerry was his friend. Thats another crock of !@!@. ROFLMAO at Costacat and Ddr. I would pay both of you to see that. |
Wadsters | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:14 pm     Ddr1135: Your post.. "Had he said that to me, Marci would be hanging from the basketball post upside down with Charlotte the Spider tied to his testicles and those lizards stuffed you know where." I'm still laughing.... |
Wrat1010 | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:15 pm     Here's my theory on Marcellas (if you saw Saturday's episode with Marcellas' family picture and heard his speech). I like Marcellas but I don't agree with his behavior at all and this assessment is gonna be harsh. He's regressed to childhood. Danielle is the mother whose love and respect he had to earn -- he never had unconditional love from her. He even called Danielle mother in the nomination ceremony. Later to Danielle he called Roddy a father figure -- I guess in Marcellas's family the father was a devil, or perhaps that is what his mother wanted him to believe (are his parents divorced? I think he has younger stepsisters). Amy is his spoiled younger sister but somehow she also represents his homosexuality which he is now going to repress to try and be like his "conventential" siblings Jason and Lisa. He is very hurt that he is not getting as much love from his family and the only way he thinks he can win back their love is by shunning Amy, by repressing his homosexuality. There have been lots of clues about this age regression in Saturday's episode, such as his odd soliloquies on 70's television shows and cartoons from his childhood. Also his little speech to Amy was a mixture of all the things that Roddy and Danielle had said about Amy. Ultimately when Jason or Lisa win HOH and nominates Marcellas and Amy and when Marcellas is evicted (and he will be), he will learn how wrong it was for him to try and be something he is not. I'm not sure if Marcellas is actually in need of psychological help or if he is acting this way on purpose so that he can send out a message to gay teens or something like that -- and it wouldn't surprise me if his long diary room meetings are attended by Big Brother scriptwriters as they work together to flesh out a storyline for the Marcellas eviction week. I almost suspect the latter since it seems too convenient that there are so many parallels between the stories he has told about gaining acceptance with the people in his real life and with the stories that take place in the House. Either that or Danielle is a master hypnotist and has regressed Lisa, Jason, Amy and Marcellas into childhood. |
Sherbabe | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:18 pm     Wow...If that is how Marcellus treats his friends, imagine how he treats his enemies. That was about the most cold hearted speech I have ever seen. Especially, when we know about all the vile things he said about Gerry. And we all know that it is because of Gerry that Marcellus is even in the house. |
Screeminmeemie | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:19 pm     Marcellus is simply a garden variety jackass. |
Sweetbabygirl | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:21 pm     This hypocritical queen needs to be thrown out on his white poom-poom panties!! He has been unforgivably mean to Gerry, who by the way SAVED his butt. Sorry folks, but I have been a Gerry fan (veto speech excluded!) since day one. I hated how Queenie spoke so badly of him; the "All the ugly people would be voted out" speech put the nail in the coffin for me. The sooner he is gone, the better. |
Ddr1135 | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:21 pm     Sherbabe, funny he never said anything like that to Gerry, Josh, or Tanya. Just said it behind their back. |
Gina8642 | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:26 pm     I think Dani definitely influenced Marc's speech. Marc is trying to get in good with Danielle right now and is trying to impress her. He said all the things about Amy that Dani has problems with. All that said, Dani sure didn't want him to do that. Dani is never up front with her bashing or disapproval of others. |
Yuhuru | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:27 pm     I don't care very much for Marci or Amy as of late. Neither of them has been a good friend to the other for quite a while. AMy has betrayed some confidences and Marci has shown his jealousy before. Remember the big blow out regarding not wanting her to get one vote? They are both immature and mean spirited. I didn't really like the speech he was off base in my opinion, but what I liked about it was that it was honest reagrding Amy. That is the most honest speech we've heard yet even if it was whack. One thing is for sure (I hope I don't eat these words) neither Amy or Marci will win unless by some miracle they can re-bond after this incident. |
Sunlit | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:27 pm     Wrat, that was a very interesting analysis of Marc. It's hard to tell with him because he plays to the cameras so much! Who knows what is real to Marc? Not friendship, obviously. Yes, you can help friends by being honest, but Marc did it for the camera, I think, with no regard for Amy's feelings. |
Wendo | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:42 pm     Stingerman said, "<snip> Well Wendo I read your post but I doubt that it's going turn into fact so what did you think of Marcellus's speech? Would you let your best friend treat you like that?" Stinerman, as I said in my post, I thought Marcellas's speech was harsh. I cringed and felt bad for Amy. I could SEE the hurt in her face. As far as your question, would I let my best friend treat me like Mar treated Amy? Absolutely not. Furthermore, I would not even BE in such a relationship. I'm not insecure, dependent, nor in need of life lessons from my friends. I think the relationship Amy and Mar have is not a traditional friendship; it is dysfunctional. I cannot begin to explain it, honestly. They feed off each other. It's contentious, tense, and, at times, viscous. However, both Amy and Mar are adults and have the right to decide to remain friends or not. Despite the fact the relationship is just wacky. LOL! |
Roamjotiba | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:47 pm     It will be so funny when Marcellas realizes the 3 he kept safe this week will put him in 4th place with their pact, maybe 5th place hopefully. |
Wendo | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:48 pm     Gina8642 said, "I think Dani definitely influenced Marc's speech. Marc is trying to get in good with Danielle right now and is trying to impress her. He said all the things about Amy that Dani has problems with." This is completely UNTRUE. Dani had no influence in that speech and to try and attribute it to her is downright rude. If you saw the show, Dani clearly asked Mar not to put Amy up. That she was his friend and it would not be a good thing to do. She felt it was a terrible idea. "All that said, Dani sure didn't want him to do that. Dani is never up front with her bashing or disapproval of others." Dani didn't want him to do anything, even didn't want Mar to nominate Amy. For crimeny sakes, present accurate facts when you make an argument. |
Gina8642 | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:49 pm     So true Roam. |
Csnog | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:49 pm     This whole thread has been about why Marc would do what he did. Why did Amy take it? Roddy did it to her in her eviction from the house and she thanked him. Now Marc has done the same thing and she has sloughed it off. She is a victim and has been rejected by another male. She had a conversation with Lisa a while back about rejection but I can't quite remember it. I have said all along that Marcie is the meanest person in the house. I also believe that Marcie has been rejected by his mother and therein lays his problem with his closeness to women. Reject Amy before she can reject him. All he cares about is camera time because he thinks it will lead to modeling contracts when he leaves the house. Arnie boxed himself into a corner with this show when Marcie won America's choice and rallied around Marcie making him the come back kid. It will be interesting to see how Arnie portrays Marcie next week. |
Groucho | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:49 pm     Anyone remember the food competition early on where Marci was one of the "team captains" and he had to pick his team members one at a time? In the DR he said that he started out picking the "cool kids" (either Lisa or Chiara, I think), then asked himself "why am I picking based on popularity instead of just picking my friends?" Then he proceeded to pick Amy, Gerry, etc. I think Marci has never really gotten past this basic desire to be "popular". He has this tremendous but extremely fragile ego and he needs to feed it constantly. This is why he's always talking about how beautiful and wonderful he is while putting others down. In Gerry and Amy he had two people who truly wanted to be his friend and who would never have betrayed him. But he perceived them as not being part of the "in crowd" in the house. He couldn't get past their little personal foibles (Gerry's hygiene, Amy's self-absoption). He'd rather have superficial relationships with the people he considers popular, like Danni and Lisa and Roddy, then have real friendships with the "undesirables". It really makes me sick, and I don't usually let myself get so worked up by a stupid show like this. |
Gina8642 | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:53 pm     Wendo I totally agree with your post. Dani would never do that. I'm sorry if I took it as an opportunity to bash Dani. I tried to rewrite it so that it wasn't but I guess it still came out that way. She influenced the speech because Marc is trying to play up to her. He did it in a very clumsy manner. Hurting himself more in the process. With Dani, and all the other HGs. He reminds me of a teased kid trying to fit in with the 'cool' kids who ends up being way more cruel than any 'cool' kid would ever imagine being. |
Kappy | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:55 pm     Screeminmeemie ~ I would have liked to see Amy take that white robe and the white underwear and anything else that was squeaky clean white and bury it in mud in the backyard! |
Groucho | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:58 pm     Csnog -- Why did Amy take it? Simple. She has low self-esteem. She's willing to believe the bad things that people say about her because she has a low self-image. |
Azriel | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:02 pm     Groucho the way Gerry and Amy have been treated in the house has really gotten me worked up, too. I had a few feelings like this last year with the way Autumn was treated. Autumn did bring on a lot of the negative vibes against her and I still hated the way she was treated. Gerry and Amy have done nothing to deserve the mean, ugly treatment they have gotten. When two people gossip back and forth it really doesn't bother me. I figure they are just blowing off steam, but this house has had a gang mentality that just upsets me tremendously. Gerry was trashed mercilessly behind his back and he was shunned by the 'good people' in the house. They are even crueler with Amy. They tell her to her face that she is an awful person. It really makes me sick to know that one of these people are going to profit from all this awful behavior |
Misery | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:36 pm     Azriel, I totally agree with you. The Big Brother show bothers me so much, simply because of how people are singled out and treated poorly no reason. It just shows how bad society can be, especially when money is involved. Amy is a vulnerable person emotionally, and Marcellus is taking advantage of that. Marcellus is jealous because Amy is spending time with Roddy and other people. He's extremely selfish and has a maladaptive personality, IMHO. |
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