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Cc1976

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 06:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Putting aside the fact that Marcellus was a massive hypocritical jerk in his speech to Amy, I was absolutely disgusted with what Jason said to Danielle when she told him that Marce. might nominate Amy. Jason said you tell him if he doesn't do what we want he will be gone next week. And I need to give Danielle credit for declining and saying she didn't want to threaten someone.

I absolutely despise bullies and Jason showed himself to be just that. It's amazing to me the similarities between Nicole/Hardy last year and Danielle/Jason this year. They all became arrogant when they realized they were in a power position and they became bullies. The somewhat surprising thing is Jason is more of the bully than Danielle.

Also, on an earlier episode Jason made a comment about if a houseguest lied to him, he would make it known and then the whole house would turn against them because they lied to him -- sweet innocent Jason. I'm just sick of Jason's attitude and feeling that no one can be anything but honest to Jason or the whole house would turn against that person because he thinks everyone should be outraged.

I think now I would rather see Danielle win than Jason.

Sunlit

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 06:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it's amusing that posters must search so hard to find Jason-bashing material! There's just not that much there to find :) Comparing him to Hardy is a stretch, but I can follow the logic, I suppose. So, Jason has a few flaws? That boy may just be human!

Curlyq

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 06:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, as someone who has always liked and respected Jason (except when he fell for Roddy's lies) I do have to say I was also surprised and disappointed to hear him say that, especially after he himself didn't do what the house wanted last week. Still, I'm not disappointed enough to see anyone else in a better light. Nobody came off looking good to me in tonight's episode.

Also, I find it interesting if Jason said that about exposing lies because that is exactly what Roddy said his strategy would be in his pre-game interview at the CBS website. It only worked for Roddy with Josh, so I hope Jason thinks twice about doing that.

Ocean_Islands

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd hardly call Jason a bully. He might have said that, but when it comes to doing it, I doubt he'd be able to.

Theo17

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
sunlit I agree, Jason isnt perfect but who is? everybodys flaws would show in this pressure cooker and at least he was trying to save amy when it could have been him going up to replace her.

Csnog

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason can't win either way it seems.

Don't put Jason on a pedestal.

ALL the HG's are allowed to play the game, but it's HOW they conduct themselves while playing it that counts.

I can only hope that he wakes up and gets rid of Dannie.

She will never take him with her to the final 2 because Jason would get more votes.

Beegee

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Why is everyone so intent on finding fault with Jason? That comment was not a threat -- it was a fact, and something that Marcellas should be reminded of -- that's just the way the alliances line up in the house right now and Marcellas may have temporarily forgotten that. Maybe CC1976 didn't mean it this way, but it seems people expect Jason to be perfect merely because he's Christian, and if he shows any propensity to play the game, he falls from grace. Being Christian is not about pretending to be perfect, it's about knowing that one cannot be perfect and that's why one worships Christ. Even if this isn't an issue with Jason's religion, he should be allowed to play the game and scope out strategy.

Bbrules4ever

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
the only ones to blame are the other houseguests who put Danny+Jason up on some sort of pedastal of purity!!!! why they do that i really dont know

Blossumtree

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ocean, i agree, jason most likely said that in order to look tough in front of danielle or hoping that danielle would like the idea and run with it herself, leaving our little j as pure as arctic snow

Curlyq

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Some people may be intent on finding fault with Jason, but not everyone. I for one simply wanted to admit that as someone who likes Jason I can still see that he was wrong to say this.

Ocean and Blossumtree, I may have to review the tape, but the way I saw it Jason was telling Danielle to give this threat to Marcellas. I don't think he was saying he himself would do it. That's why she answered him with "I don't like to threaten people."

Theo17

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
seems a lot of the roddy supporters loved jason last week and now dislike him this week. They always go after danni also but usually leave lisa alone. I wonder why that is.

Wrat1010

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason's a bully only in his own mind. No way he would ever tell Marcellas that to his face! Jayboy can only say stuff about Marcellas to try and win approval from his Mom, Danielle! I'm sure he cried for hours when he saw she didn't approve of his idea.

Seamonkey

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Today after POV when Dani, Lisa and Jason were sweating bullets in the BR working themselves up about whether Amy would veto Roddy, while Dani was praying for god to make sure Amy didn't use it, Jason was the one who spoke of putting pressure on Amy to not use the POV and I heard the tone in his voice and it was definitely on the harsh side. Just an observation, not bashing at all.

Of course Dani wants people to be low-key, since she has Lisa, Jason and Marcellas thinking that she wants to go to final two with each of them.. of course they've deemed Amy to be undeserving, just a fly in the ointment, a distraction to their game plan.

Realrealityfan

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason should watch out for that crying..after all he does borrow Lisa's foundation make up for the live shows.. nothing worse that to see smeared makeup running down a guy's cheek

Theo17

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
jay doesnt like any confrontations. He proved that last week. still out of this cast he seems to be the nicest

Kathyb

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
To the people who keep insisting that Danielle will not take Jason with her to the finals: even if she were to turn on her closest ally (which she has said over and over she will never do), do you really think she's dumb enough to risk turning everyone against her and losing their votes for sure? She told Marcellas not to put up Amy because she was his friend and it would make him look bad. Why would she herself do it?

Sweetbabygirl

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
First off, I want to give a big ups to CC1976 and Bbrules4ever for their comments.

Danielle - If nothing else, she is right up there with Roddy in that she has manipulated just as hard as he has; the only difference is her smugness about her actions. All that wheeling and dealing will bite her on her butt though, as each evicted houseguest sees her for what she truly is.

Jason - I have NEVER bought the "Aw, shucks!" act...his convo with Danielle this evening proves it. He soooooo has to go!!

Neko

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And Wrat1010, you know exactly what's going on in Jason's mind?? Do you have mind powers that we all want??

Seamonkey

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So far, Danielle has not stepped up to the plate.. so she hasn't made a single nomination..

Who knows just what she'd do to a friend. Not I.

Wrat1010

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And Neko, no I don't. Reality television is entertainment not reality.

Csnog

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Even at this stage of the game Dannie doesn't want anyone to know about her alliance with Jason.

Do you really think she wants to have Jason next to her for the final vote and win the $1/2 mil.?

OR

Would she want someone who is disliked by the other HG's perhaps Marcie?

Silklily

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Danielle would want Jason with her at the end - ala Colby and Tina of Survivor Outback. She figures if she cannot have 1st place, someone she loves and respects should have it. Plus, she knows 2nd place still makes a good chunk of money.

Jimmer

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason plays wimpy - some people call him wimpy and want him to make tough decisions. Jason plays tough - some people call him a bully. The guy just can't please everyone. He has to play the game and he's said all along that he intends to do so. He's still in my top two favorites I'd like to see win. Also I agree with Silklily - I'm starting to believe that Danni is really going to take him to the end.

Jimmer

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually more like Kim and Ethan on Survivor 3. She knew she couldn't win so she took someone with her that she liked.

Cindyluvsroddy

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason mistakes are just a tiny bit of a flaw ... oops! .. (two fingers over mouth)

Roddy makes a mistake its "EVILLLLL!!!" lol

Funny, how jason fans will call Roddy "evil" "devil" etc.... but as long as Dani is good to Jason .. then Dani is ok .. she is excused .. just "playing" the game .. no harm . even though she is doing everthing they accuse Roddy of and a whole lot more ...

not a very even way of logic ...