Archive through September 01, 2002
TV ClubHouse: Archive: Will AMY use the POV ?? (renamed since she won it):
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Archive through September 01, 2002
Allietex | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 09:49 pm     The person who wins POV can only use it to save one person. If the POV winner has been nominated then that person can only save the other nominee. Then the HOH has to nominate someone else to replace the person vetoed. The person doing the vetoing remains on the block. They cannot save themselves. |
Kalekona | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 09:55 pm     For Roddy HE is more important than anyone else in that house. he expects AMY to save him but won't save her because he doesn't care two cents about AMY. Roddy will back you into a corner and make you give him your word and then he'll hold you to it but he has different standards for himself. Danille didn't play Amy when Amy was HOH- yes she got her to not nominate Jason but she followed through on what Amy wanted done had she not then she would have played AMY. The winner of POV can not be nominated but can still be evicted if they are already on the block. Hope she sees if she saves Roddy she's got no chance at all- leave things the same and she has a shot. |
Gina8642 | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:07 pm     While I don't think she should veto Roddy. I think it will be very sad if she uses her speech as an opportunity to attack Roddy's character. What exactly would that accomplish? Except, perhaps, make her look like a small person, much like Marcellus looked with his speech. Personally, I hope she doesn't participate in character assassination. Right now, I'm very pro Amy, and I think many others (not all) are feeling that way too. If she does something mean, that will change. |
Zeyna | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:23 pm     Cameltoes, so far, Roddy has not requested that Amy take him off the block. As far as I know, he has not even brought up this box promise to Amy. She was the one to mention taking him off, and for this Roddy cannot be blamed. To suggest that he should tell her not to do this means that he's slicing his own throat. I don't see how approving of Amy to veto would be outside of the parameters of the game. This is precisely what the veto is for. The fact that L/D/J have an alliance and will inevitably oust Amy in the event of a veto is also not Roddy's fault. He made a very bad mistake telling her that he'll "think about" giving her a vote, and I am very surprised at this...especially after his talk Lisa last night. He must be aware that she's going along with all the rest and does not have his back. I don't blame Amy at all for being angry with his decision. |
Spunky | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:29 pm     I'm glad she keeps that speech a "secret". We will just have to believe her she will keep it secret till Monday. The fact that she is keeping it secret could give her freedom to change it at any time her fancy takes her.... she only needs a blow up with Marcellas to change all that...and of course spurred on by Roddy... eh, eh... |
Duchess | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:34 pm     Put yourself in Amy's shoes. She practically ignored everyone in the house during her stint as HOH in order to keep Roddy. She's infatuated with the guy, and to find out that Roddy has no qualms about letting her go in favor of Lisa has gotta hurt. I'm glad that she's not blind to it the way Chiara was and that she has enough self esteem not to continuously grovel for Roddy. |
Wcv63 | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:35 pm     The "epiphany" for Amy came at the moment she realized that Roddy's actions were all in the name of getting her to "fall on her sword" for him. She thought back to Chiara and Chiara's attempts to save Roddy at her own expense. Then she thought of Josh and Josh's speech to please remove Roddy as he doesn't belong. These factors combined made her realize that Roddy somehow manages to manipulate people into self-sacrifice on his behalf. She was thisclose to doing the same thing and it hit her like a ton of bricks. So yes, Roddy was using her, and yes her moment of clarity came without any intervention from others. Additionally, Amy said that she will NOT be mean in her POV speech but that she does intend to point out that she is not using the POV in the names of all the people who have "fallen on their swords" for Roddy. She said she will be nice but quite clear. |
Spunky | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:42 pm     I remember saying Roddy brings bad luck to whoever gets close to him...(it started with Lori) and so far it seems true since they're gone... I was afraid for Jason but now he's back on track. I was also afraid for Lisa but it seems she was just playing him. Dani helped Marcellas see the light just on time. Amy too got some help to see the light and will be safe at least until Roddy is gone. |
Zeyna | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:52 pm     The only reason Roddy's friends have been evicted is because the "good" people evicted them - not because of Roddy but because of the percieved threat of Roddy. I never saw Roddy as someone with so much power like others have. He is very bad at reading people and is oblivious to what's going on around him. He only focuses on people he's talking to, but even then failed to "assimilate" them to his club. He never had a group of people he controlled. At this point, his best bet is to stay away from Amy as much as he can. This is the only thing that would make her wonder why he's not trying to control her, and possibly consider taking him off the block. |
Duchess | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 11:22 pm     Right on, wcv! Josh realized Roddy's schemes but Roddy has turned the tide against him and the set stage was too elaborate for Josh to dismantle. Fortunately for Amy, she gave Roddy no ammunition to nail her. |
Bbrules4ever | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 11:38 pm     UGGGH.....roddy playing "footsies" with amy on those circular chairs.....he doesn't waste time.. |
Spear | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 11:48 pm     Heh. Earlier, feed 4 was zooming in on Roddy's foot tugging at Amy's robe. I thought the producers were implying that he was trying to get a peek under her robe. Before that, Dani was telling Marc and Lisa that Amy had nothing on under her robe because Dani could see "all her business" when Amy was at the hammock talking to Roddy and Dani. |
Goddess146 | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 11:49 pm     One night Roddy was talking to Chiara about his strategy. He was telling her everyone would love to hear what he was doing. She did not seem enthused about the idea. He then said "Don't you think people would be fascinated to know that if for example my overall plan was to get all my friends voted out." I did no think much about it at the time; however, given what has happened thus far .... |
Onlyhuman | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 11:56 pm     Did anyone watch the massage and everything after? The only reason I ask this is that Amy was wearing a swim suit for her massage underneath that robe. Unless she went in and took off her swimsuit, she is still wearing it under the robe. It just sounds odd to me, because Amy is very modest, even hiding from the cameras when changing. It just doesn't sound like something she would do. |
Cameltoes | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 11:58 pm     Wouldn't surprise me at all Goddess. One of my first posts about Roddy's strategy was back when he was trying to get Lori evicted. He said he saw her as a bigger threat (which made no sense based on the fact that she totally lost it) than Marcellas. I thought maybe he was trying to pull a Will and be the last one of his alliance standing. Getting Amy evicted would fit in with that (she was the weakest member of the non-couples so why target her). He had no problem eliminating Josh and though it seemed that was because he caught Josh in his lies, it could have just been a bunch of grandstanding. |
Duchess | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 11:59 pm     Roddy is the type that will say.."I did not have massage relations with that woman" |
Duhhart | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 12:08 am     I didn't get to watch tonight show but I know they showed Amy in the pool with the boys. Did anyone think she was acting like D & M are saying? |
Maris | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 12:08 am     "Before that, Dani was telling Marc and Lisa that Amy had nothing on under her robe because Dani could see "all her business" when Amy was at the hammock talking to Roddy and Dani." Why am I not surprised that Danni would say that. I watched tonight andI was counting all the possibilities for remarks from Danni. Tomorrow I will be looking for the she just sat down ate and then went outside without washing a dish, she had two slices of cheese on her cheeseburger, I am tired of her complaining now she is allergic to relish. I have to say I didnt expect the I could see her business. I dont know if she took the bathing suit off but she had it under her robe for the massage, put the robe back on after the massage, went back to the kitchen and they were all laughing and teasing Jason. I dont recall her going to change but I could be wrong. I am inclined to think she was wearing her bathingsuit and Danni is just saving this to cause trouble and put it as another reason to nominate her next week. |
Bernie | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 12:10 am     Onlyhuman, I quite agree. That's the second time Danielle has made a point of telling her allies that Amy is showing all her business, and the first time was one of the reasons that Marcellas was so mad with Amy. I find it totally unbelievable, since Amy even goes into the WC to change her clothes, or get dressed in the morning. This is another example of Danielle pointing out her next victim's so-called failings prior to getting them out. I guess Amy's real faults aren't bad enough, because both Jason and Lisa seem to be getting to like Amy. I'm finding this tactic to be one of her most vicious, because she's doing it to another woman, doing it to an innocent woman, and doing it even though she knows that what she says can be heard by the internet. She's destroying Amy's reputation. I hope this one comes back to bite Danielle in her rear end. It's despicable. And you know, IF it were true, wouldn't a decent human being warn Amy in private, that she was showing more than she meant to? |
Maris | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 12:11 am     Now Danni and Marcellas are talking about Amy. Marcellas is saying AMy is a F**king handful and she has to go next week. He doesnt want her to say her speech. Danni tells Marcellas that Amy has his back and Marcellas responds that Danni has his back too. he can lose Amy. SUCKER!!!!! I want to see Marcellas drown in his petard. This is great. Marcellas is trashing her now. |
Dagny | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 12:16 am     Maris...was listening to the same conversation. He also said in a nut shell "how dare Amy walk around pouting, when it's already hard enough on the rest of them" |
Maris | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 12:22 am     yes she was making them uncomfortable always talking about being nominated and there is Danni agreeing with Marcellas. That just made me laugh, the absolute gall of Amy to comment about always being nominated. Sure hope they dont moan and groan when they are nominated once! |
Onlyhuman | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 12:23 am     Duhhart, Amy definitely enjoyed the contact, but not in what you would call a sexual manner. They were all over each other, the guys AND the girls. One of the most interesting things is that the second day of duckball, it was Lisa who suggested switching teams because she did not feel comfortable getting rough with Amy, she was afraid she might hurt her. That's when it became guys vs. girls, so the girls were always going up against a guy. |
Groucho | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 12:26 am     I saw Amy out on the hammock by herself earlier, right after dinner. She shifted her legs and you could clearly see she had her bathing suit bottom on under her robe. Sounds like part of Dani's disinformation campaign to me. |
Kae | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 12:27 am     I think POV would be much more interesting if it took the person holding it off the nomination block. Then the POV holder could decide on if they wanted to save the remaining nominee. Either that or it should be a "forced use" to take the winner off the nomination block. Actually, I just want to see marc. squirm and be forced to pick new nominees. BTW, I thought marc. really showed his ugly side in his little speech to Amy, which was totally uncalled for and immature. I remember last year how every time Hardy had to nominate someone he would always give this speech about how he thought they were friends, but they stabbed him in the back and he had to nominate them. Sounds like Marc. had to come up with a few reasons of his own in order to noimate his "used to be friend" Amy. What ever happened to "it's a game and I'll be closer to winning it when your a$$ is grass!" Sometimes I think these people forget that it's just a game. |
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