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Rain

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I like Roddy. He has played the game well. Although this is a game of manipulation, it is also a game intertwined with luck. He couldn't control some aspects of the game, and some things have simply not gone his way--yet he doesn't sit back and whine and cry, he persists, and doesn't give up.

I like him. He the kind of guy you want on your team if you want to win.

Go Roddy! I wouldn't count him out yet.

Cindyluvsroddy

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i agree Rain ...

let the guy fight!!!

Wcv63

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Guys, we just got back the privilege of opening new threads after having been put on restriction because of the overabundance of threads discussing similar topics. Let's try not to give the mods headaches.

I can't say anything good about Roddy and be truthful BUT I can say that I admire and respect his fans for sticking by their guy even in the face of adversity.

Cindyluvsroddy

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
gee Wcv63 ... cant we have a thread supporting roddy???

if this was a Roddy Hater thread ... would u say the same thing?

:)

Theo17

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Just one question how many lies does roddy have to tell in a 12 hour period before he doesnt consider himself 100% truthful and 100% ethical anymore?

Rain

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wcv63, I opened this thread because the main thread on Roddy is called a "loaded question" and is very unfair.

If you are familiar with fallacies, then you know a loaded question is very difficult to answer, because it is unfair to begin with. It asks "Are there any Roddy fans left?" which pre-supposes that Roddy fans have been deserting--which is not true. Its like asking "Do you still beat your wife?"

Rain

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
excuse me, Theo17, but this is a positive thread for Roddy. If you think that Dani or anybody else has told less lies than Roddy I have a couple of towers to sell you in NYC.

Maris

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That is a disgusting post Rain. Joking about the towers is way over the top.

I think it is great that Roddy is going to fight up to the end.

Wcv63

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
There are 5 threads open right now that are pro Roddy.

There are two that have the topic as "I love Roddy"

I'm just reminding people not to open too many new threads because we were asked very nicely to try to find existing threads to post in prior to opening a new discussion.

I have no problem with pro Roddy threads...it's your right as fans of Roddy to have a sanctuary to talk about your favorite. I also greatly admire Roddy fans because they are such a minority right now they are swimming upstream and paddling really hard.

Bmh

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
there is a difference Rain..Dani doesn't tell people she is honest or ethical..she has said numerous times before she would lie and cheat to get the money..while roddy lies and cheats but still believe he is honest and ethical..there is the difference

Oh and Wcv said that because there are already 2 Roddy supporting threads that opeded at the same time..and we have already been reprimaneded for making new threads without looking for old ones...so just be more careful next time..it has nothing to do with what kind of thread it is

Cindyluvsroddy

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
ill excuse Theo ... he has a Problem with Roddy ...

ill send him to the Roddy AA club hehe

haha Theo :)

Cindyluvsroddy

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
have you remined people in the anti-roddy threads as well?

Theo17

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
rain you just showed me exactly why you are a roddy fan. Goodluck.

Mollywood

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What i love about how he plays the game, is he doesnt use lies to manipulate, maybe tiny ones, but his gift as i see it, is using the truth with slight alteration per other hg. i can always tell when he has lost interest in the person he is talking to..but they dont see it..they all love him..now even dani..she may not vote him out..i just feel, and as dani goes the other two go...ilike dani now..so if the two best players wind up as one and two, id feel good about it.

Cindyluvsroddy

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
have you reminded people in the anti-roddy threads as well?

Chelle

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I love Roddy. Enough said.

One more thing. Danielle has said over and over that she hates the liars in the game. Maybe not in those exact words, but she is as bad as the rest. I guess in her mind it is okay if she does it for her family.

Wcv63

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cindy if you look at the "main" anti-Roddy thread it is over 600 posts long. No new anti-Roddy threads have opened since we were asked to keep new discussions to a minimum. However, yes I would remind anyone regardless of subject stance if a similar topic already existed.

Maris

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Danni is worse than the rest. She is judgemental and seems to think she is above everyone. I am not a huge Roddy fan but I admire his tenacity and his unwillingness to give up. So play hard to the end Roddy....

Cindyluvsroddy

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
exactly chelle .... Roddy does something, everybody jumps down his throat!!

but it is ok when other Hg's do it

Rain

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, that's an expression I've been hearing lately. It used to be heard "I have a bridge to sell you in NYC (meaning the Brooklyn Bridge) now people are saying "I have a couple of towers to sell you" indicating that the person must REALLY think they are stupid.

Frankly, I think that humor is the way that humanity deals with stuff. Without humor life would be too terrible to go on. So don't lecture me about the how you think its disgusting. Go lecture someone else. If you were so sensitive about what is disgusting you wouldn't even be watching a show like Big Brother 3.

What do you think most humor is based on?
There are plenty of jokes about horrible events--that's one way that people come to terms with it. Jokes about the Challenger blowing up, jokes about Princess Diana, jokes about the election of 2000. Its how life works.

And furthermore, I think that wallowing in self-pity is absolutely counter-productive. That's why I admire Roddy so much. He works the problem. And so the best thing we can do for the souls that perished on 9/11 is not to have big pity parties--its to kill all the b*stards that did that horrible thing to us so that thousands more of us aren't slaughtered as we work or sleep.

Bastable

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 12:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Let's not wade too deeply into politics, Rain. As a New Yorker I have to disagree with your feeling that the best way to honor the dead is to kill more people. We've truly experienced war and blood here and I should tell you that the anti-war movement here in Manhattan is now the strongest anywhere in America. I really think it's because we've seen enough. Death is not abstract to us. Many of us who were eyewitnesses to 9/11 (in real life, not on TV) want no more killing.

That said, I think your feelings of anger are totally valid and I appreciate the strength of your desire to protect everyone. It's well-founded.

By the way, can I say something about RODDY now?

I LOVE him! Over in the gargantuan "Gasket" thread, we're having a hee-hawin' old time dissecting that boy, and the Roddy-lovers are beginning to think the boards are full of Roddy-haters. No way! I LOVE watching him tongue-lash the HGs! I really get off on his undying manipulations! I'm having a GREAT time watching him stampede through everyone's feelings. It's highly entertaining. If he goes, that's sad, but BB history proves that the minute he goes, someone else will rise though the ranks to be the house's new Bad Boy or Girl.

Gouraphik

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 01:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Note: I posted this earlier in the "Roddy's blowing a Gasket" thread, but since it seems that it's going to be closed soon, perhaps this would be a better place to put it:

If Roddy wants to survive, he needs to adapt his Reality Distortion Field to the new circumstances in the house. Ever since he got nommed by Marcellas, he's been using a "brute force" strategy. That might work, but Danielle's "Roddy is the devil" mantra has effectively diffused the old RDF's power.

Roddy needs to surrender and be contrite. He needs to "fess up", as it were. He doesn't need to believe this...he just has to make the others happy. One of his strengths is manipulating the emotions of others. They want him to admit his faults. He should do so.

He should use the RDF to point out every time that he's misled them...sort of the reverse of his old method. He should stop browbeating the others and let Danielle work for him. He should essentially admit that he is the "devil", and be repentant about it. Danielle would then become, in effect, the "devil's" advocate.

When she demonizes him, he'll agree. If she tries to use a reverse-vilification strategy and attempts to show how he's actually a "good person", it builds Roddy up, and potentially makes her look like a hypocrite. If she says nothing, then his perspective will permeate the house even more.

If he doesn't do something like this, or can't bring himself to do it, then he's probably toast.

P.S.: I'm a non-partisan, myself...but if you're pro-Roddy, maybe this'll give you some hope! :) Just keep an eye out for any acts of contrition on Roddy's part. He may also try to co-opt Danielle's message in a different fashion, so pay attention regarding that possibility as well.

Sunrise

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 01:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Rain, i lost family and friends there.
I don't find the humor in it.
I find it crass, not like the band.
Some people enjoy mean spirited jokes others don't.

I had to put my two cents in there. Now back to regular allotment space for the I love how Roddy plays the game.

The rest belongs outside of the General Discussion for BB3.

p.s. Maris, IS a Roddy fan from the other posts of hers that I have read.

Gina8642

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 01:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I too like that Roddy doesn't give up and I don't even want him to win this game.

'Perserverence in the key'

My ninth grade algebra teacher used to always say that and it's very true.

I saw the best example of perserverance this afternoon. College football, not one hour ago. Michigan v. Washington. For the last 6 minutes of the game Wash was up 29-28, but Michigan kept trying.

Michigan got a first down near the 50 in the last 60 seconds. One long pass after another failed. Third down, Michgan throws into the endzone for an incomplete pass. Washington is penalized for 12 men on the field. Penalaly is 15 yards!!

Last play, Fourth down. 6 seconds left. Michigan kicks an easy ~30 yard touch down.

Michigan wins!!!

Classic example of never giving up. Just keep pushing it. Always try. You never know.

The other HGs want Roddy to lay down and die, he won't. Good for Roddy.

And I still don't want him to win. LOL

Maris

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 01:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My condolences Sunrise, I will be thinking of everyone who lost a loved one on 9/11. That will be my one day of taking a break from Big Brother.

I am not a huge Roddy fan I don't like the way he has been demonized by the biggest demon of them all. I would like to see him escape this week to rise up and haunt her for another week.