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Cameltoes

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 10:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think Roddy has an explicit deal with Lisa. Lisa was upset that her name was brought into it because it gives the impression she has a deal with Roddy. Roddy's angle is that protecting Lisa is part of his deal with Eric. I think it's just something he was using to get Amy to sacrifice herself for him. He wanted her gone last week and nothing has indicated to me that his opinion hasn't changed. If Amy left, his goal would likely be to sway Lisa, Jason and/or Marcellas over to his side.

Wendo

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 10:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OMG, did you all just hear what Roddy said to Amy about lying in context of the game? She said, do you think people in the house would be mad at someone if they did something that another person would be upset about? And, would you be still mad at them after getting out of the house?

Roddy says to her "A liar is a f*cking liar. And if someone lies, I wouldn't be friends with them after the house." Talk about manipulating the girl.

Now he's saying he would get together with Josh. So, Josh was a liar in the house. It'll be ok to hang with him and not Amy.

I'm sorry, <moderated>

Bbrules4ever

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 10:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i can see tonight roddys new ploy is to take a hardline with amy. Be cold, distant, and withhold affection untill she caves. He is being quite severe with her - his last chance is to make her "regret" dissapointing him - by using the veto. His "charm" tonight is using reverse psychology on her!!!!

Allietex

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 10:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, I am afraid that if Amy made such a grand gesture and vetoed Roddy it would fall flat. No one would be impressed by it. Roddy would not pay any attention to her because he would no longer need her. The rest of the house would just see her as a spoiled child who had been conned again by Roddy and had cut off her nose to spite her face. They would make the remaining time until Thursday pure hell. I would like to see her not use the veto, stay in the house, distance herself from Marc, tell him to go take a flying leap, take control of her own destiny, and play the game! I read on another thread where Dani, Lisa, and Jason have already decided that Marc will go next week. If that is true, then Amy would be in the final four. From there anything could happen. Now that would be real drama.

Meggieprice

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 10:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just as it was Marcellas' last minute change of mind that caused Amy to force Dani's hand and ultimately bring about Chiara's eviction instead of Roddy's, he could also exert a lot of influence with Amy tonight once she lurches drunkenly into HOH to go to bed. He so wants her gone, I could see him encouraging her to use the POV and finding some reason or other why it would be the right decision. Marc is ranting and raving about her to Dani right now.

I hope not! I am a passionate member of ABR.

Theo17

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 10:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
maris all to be dramatic or to get to danni in your mind you would tell your family to walk away from a 1 in 5 chance to win 500k? Wow I would never do that. Its one thing for me to make the decision for myself but I wouldnt take that opportunity from anyone even roddy. May i ask how old you are?

Goddess146

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 10:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I do not think that Roddy explicitly mentioned Lisa as someone he could not vote against. He did not name anyone. Amy assumed that the someone would be Lisa. Chances are Roddy was thinking explicitly about Jason. I think Amy assumed Lisa because she views Lisa as competition to Roddy's attention.

Roddy really loves Amy. Examples:
- He put her up for nomination.
- He talks trash about her behind her back.
- He voted for Eric to return, not Amy.
- He wants to her to veto him even though it means her own eviction.

BTW:
Roddy really loves Chiara too.
Roddy thinks Marci is a great kid.
Roddy thinks Dani is a wonderful woman.

Cliotheleo

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 10:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Now see, if Roddy were really as big of a jerk as everyone makes him out to be, he would have just said, "if I were coming but your house it would be to make out with you [Amy]" and not her friend Hadley which is what he said. Bad move Roddy, bad move. She even gave him another chance to come on to her and he didn't take it. If he wanted to screw with her head to get her veto he could, but he didn't.

See Roddy is a saint, y'all've (that's southern for "you all have") got him totally mis-labeled. (ha ha.)

Ericka1012

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 10:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy is looking for acceptance from anyone...Right now Roddy is the only one giving it to her...after the nominations she realized even the one person she trusted turned his back on her in the most cruel way...Amy is not stupid she know that those nomination speechs are broadcasted and the one thing Marcy knew while he was doing it was Amy revieled that as a young person people talked bad about her when she would walk into a store or other places...to do that to her infront of a nation on TV had to be the Biggest Knife in her heart ever...Amy you stick it right back in Marcy's heart and use the POV...

Wendo

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 10:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gawd, will someone please put this girl to bed. I'm sorry, put the luggage away. Nothing even cute, entertaining, or funny about her right now.

Theo17

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 10:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ericka she hurts herself not marcy. marcy wants her out now not roddy. Seems every person that wants roddy wants her to use pov and just throw her own chance away. I'm shocked. I wouldnt even ask roddy to quit.

Jaysgal

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 10:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo, Marcellas is working already with negative press against Amy. He seems to be hoping to persuade people.

Again, I am convinced that Marcellas wants Amy gone. He just doesn't want to come across as a bully by demanding that they evict her. Instead, he's using drama and constantly refreshing his record of Amy's bad traits and habits; and then he speaks of how he's through with her and wants her gone.

So, as I said earlier, Roddy's attempt to persuade her to use the veto is not the only door to his survival. Marcellas is volunteering a free service there to campaign against Amy [indirectly] on behalf of Roddy.

I can imagine him praying deep inside him that she uses the veto. It makes it easy to get her out and keep Roddy as he wants. Notice how he told her whatever she decides about the veto is fine, just as he normally does. He's avoided saying outrightly, I support that decision or I don't. He's pulling another Josh eviction drama.

Gouraphik

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 10:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
While I don't think that it's in Amy's best interest for her to martyr herself for Roddy (even though it would make for good entertainment:)), she doesn't have a raw 1 in 5 chance of making it to the end. It's not that simple, and it's a long way to the final week.

Next week, her odds of getting the HOH are 1 in 4.
The week after that, her odds are either none (if she was HOH) or 1 in 3.
The week after that, her odds are either 1 in 2 or none (if she was HOH).
The final week, she has a 50% chance of winning.

The problem is, when you throw in large alliances with the same goal (D/L/J), her odds dwindle even further. If their alliance holds, she will likely be toast within 2 weeks. Remember...this is a game of alliances and betrayal, not a game of pure chance (like lotto, or a roulette wheel). These factors matter. A lot.

It's not that she has no chance. It's just that it's much slimmer than it appears at first sight. She needs to get lucky, or hope that her adversaries get unlucky.

Theo17

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 10:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
jay he helped save roddy the last time amy was in control so I wouldnt be surprised. I'm just shocked that roddy and marcy would be so quick to just ask another player to quit. I a;most feel like thats taking advantage of some real needy side of her.

Wendo

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 10:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jaysgal, actually, Roddy's been drumming up the negative press about Amy since last week when she was up with Gerry.

As to Marcellas, Roddy's taken another tack with him and has been all "buddy ole pal o mine" with him; while in the next breaths, doing Amy digs.

Now look, Roddy has joined the others in the lizard room. Showing how well gets along with the rest of the house. If she doesn't use PoV, this will happen a lot more until Wed. when they vote.

It's funny. All Amy wants is attention. If the other HG's (besides Roddy) would give it to her, she'd be ok. But, it's not really their problem. It's Amy's, she's so needy.

Theo17

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 10:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
gour I know all that statistically but some factors cant be assumed so I just go with the simple ones. I think next week is marcy so she is down to 1 in 4 as you said. Then she would probably have a 1 in 3 chance to win hoh. If I have those odds its crazy to walk away never mind she only has to make it to the final 2. I would never quit no matter what but to ask her to quit being so close is nuts and if she does she will regret it for a long time. Say for arguements sake she quits and somehow roddy wins. Will he be her bf then? no. Will he see her on a regular basis? no So a year down the road she will be roddyless, feeling used and full of regrets that she just quit for a guy who uses women and men.

Lancecrossfire

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 10:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
To answer the question in the title of the thread, IMHO I would say no, she won't use it.

I'd also say that Roddy is not playing the game if he didn't try to talk her into it, and I believe Dani would do the same if it was Dani and Any on the block.

Eden

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Credit to the person who said that Roddy is using negative attention to punish Amy into doing what he wants. He knows what she wants from him, what he has lead her to want, teased her into believing is possible between them. Until she says the words he's waiting for, he'll keep "dangling" his carrot in front of her.

Missy2

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 09:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It would be nice if we could watch the POV meeting on the Live Feeds today.... I hope they let us... :)

Spunky

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 10:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The POV meeting has been delayed for poor Amy can't get up from bed.

Battlestar

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 11:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy and Lisa were the one that were awake til dawn--and they are still asleep too

Spunky

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 11:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh Amy is up but it will take another hour before she can call the meeting...

Spunky

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 11:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It's happening now.... go Amy go!!

Demeter

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 11:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It seems like the meeting is usually a bit later in the day, so it's curious why they are having it a couple hours earlier than usual.

My take is BB didn't want to give Amy time ro reconsider again...or...it's a holiday so they do it earlier so some of the staff can go home.

Kuchi

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 11:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
everyone is laughing in kitchen and ROddy is in the shower...i think she did not use it

yeh amy