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Bmh

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
No Danielle does use character attacks and does call people names..I never said Danielle was perfect..but she doesn't stay up all night to convince someone she is right and you need to agree with her opinions..she backs off While Roddy doesn't know when to stop

Mollywood

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i love roddy..he can make anyone fall in love with him..and i also had a compete turn around on dani, i adore her..i want them to be in the final two, they played the best..shes very kind, and i think he is too, in fact everyone whos in now is, except marci

Cindyluvsroddy

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
nah, i don't blame anybody .... im able to see its a game ..

however, i feel the need to balance the boards out if everyone picks on one HG ...

the people who will turn on Dani are Jason fans ..

cause if dani had to choose between Lisa and Jason in the end ... i bet she would choose lisa ..

Theo17

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
cindy i wouldnt make that bet. danni has said in private many times she wants it to be her and jason. I think it would be wise of her to do that but she might get a choice anyway. its all a crap shoot towards the end.

Bmh

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Danielle would look even worse to the jury if she didn't pick Jason to be in the final 2 with her..she should take Jason no matter what..because I bet she would lose everybody's vote if she choose lisa or Jason

Bailey

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
bmh wrote:
"Telling Lisa how beautiful and awesome she is"
... Lisa is beautiful in his eyes.. he wasn't lying.

"Tells Marcellas how wonderful he is and he is the Chicago finest or something like that"
.. In his mind, up until yesterday, I think he really did admire Marc.

"Kisses Amy's head and tells Amy how wonderful she is"
.. I think Amy is wonderful, and if I saw her I'd tell her the same thing.

"Tells Danielle he likes Christian beliefs and agrees with him(When we all know he is atheist)"
.. Even an atheist can admire someone else for the beliefs. I don't have to be a part of an organized religion to admire that persons strength in their beliefs.

We could all go on and on about our likes and dislikes.. but for every negative about Roddy.. there's a ton out there about Dani too.

Efilon

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with you Cindyluvsroddy. She's not going to take a chance on losing to Jason. She might get a surprise though. Wouldn't it be wild if Lisa would win the last HOH and say, sorry Dani, I'm taking Jason to the finals?

Battlestar

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Danielle will NOT go for HOH when it is the final 3, she will not have to. She will have 2 people (either Lisa, Marcellas or Jason) who will take her to the final.

Bmh

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bailey notice he only tells these statements to people when he wants something or he needs to convince someone of something..I only hear him say these things when he is working people

Battlestar

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
--bmh, SO???

what the heck do you want him to do?? Go commune with the lizards like Josh??

Earthmother

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bmh, first of all no one hates Dani..certainly not me, so please don't try and bait others with this kind of talk. It has been going on all season and it's why many of us have been staying away.

Either you don't read my posts or you choose to read them from your perspective. I have said..I guess I have to use caps (I'm not yelling I'm just trying to help you read it so you won't say I said something I didn't)

MANIPULATION IS A PART OF THE GAME!! LYING IS A PART OF THE GAME!! VERBAL EXECUTION IMO IS NOT FAIR PLAY!! THEY ARE ALL (EACH AND EVERYONE OF THEM..INCLUDING DANI..LYING AND MANIPULATING!! THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING!!

RODDIE, DANI AND MARC ARE GUILTY OF BULLYING AND MINDF***ING!! LISA IS PLAYING HER GAME WITH REVENGE AND VENGEFUL UNTRUTHS ABOUT OTHERS!! AMY'S BRAND OF HUMOR IS A BORE TO ME, BECAUSE IT'S HURTFUL!! I MAY LIKE SOME MORE THAN OTHERS AND I MAY DISLIKE SOME FOR THE WAY THEY HAVE PRESENTED THEMSELVES, BUT I DO NOT ***HATE*** ANY OF THEM.........

Now if you want to read into that "Earthmother hates Dani" then obviously once again I didn't make my point. If you want to say "Earthmother doesn't approve of Dani, Marc, Amy or Lisa making false accusations about others without proof and have made hateful verbal attacks on most everyone" then you will have gotten my message.

Battlestar

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Good point Earthmother----I don't hate Danielle, but I hate the SMEAR campaigns she has initiated.

That behavior is nasty and make me ill. I hate it when I see children doing it, but when an adult is doing it and ENJOYING it.....BLECH!!

Cindyluvsroddy

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
or do u hate the word hate? lol

Bmh

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Earthmother I alwasy understood your point..I never said you hated Dani..I said you disliked her those are 2 very different things...

and I have said before I respect people's opinions when they complain about Danielle being cruel to people because she is..I never said she was perfect..they all bash and it isn't right..I guess I have my opinions and you have yours I dont like Roddy you do..But I did enjoy your post because I did agree with some of your opinons of the other houseguests

Earthmother

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 11:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes you did Bmh and for some odd reason that post is missing...somwhat the same way a thread title was changed last night from discussing Dani's poor behavior to a love thread..

Bridgetlovesbb

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 11:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy fan here!!!!!!!!

Bmh

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 11:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
lol Earthmother are you accusing me of something??..I dont remember saying you hated Dani all I said was you disliked her...and the moderators changed that thread not me..it was their mistake

Earthmother

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 11:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I also never said Roddy is my favorite..I said "Given what is left to choose from, Jason and Roddy are the only ones in my opinion I would be okay with getting the money."

Bmh

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 11:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh and the Dani thread was not to bash her it was about everybody's opinions of her good and bad..it's quite interesting the thread is pretty divided

Bmh

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 11:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Earthmother correct me if I'm wrong but did I go right out and say Roddy was your favorite..I dont remember saying that either..I said you liked Roddy in comparison to Dani

Sanfranjoshfan

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 11:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"but I see Dani as a much bigger threat to Marc, Amy and Lisa than Roddy."

So true....last night Jason and Dani were talking and Jason said that after Roddy goes, Amy goes, then Marcellas and then Lisa. Jason said (and I quote) "That is the pecking order".

Dani has worked really hard to get Lisa, Marce and Amy to fear Roddy and it has worked for the most part, but it's Dani (NOT Roddy) who is part of a master plan that will toss those three out next....Roddy would have gladly made a deal with any one of them, but he would not string them along for the entire game and dump them this close to the end. Roddy's deals have been on a week to week basis or a trade in kind for a non-nomination. Dani has told 2 of her next 3 victims that she she plans to be in the final 3 with them, and she has, at the very least, an "understanding" with both Marce and Lisa that each of them are going to be in the final 2 with her. Jason is the only one she has been honest with.

I really hope Amy gets POV and saves Roddy. Just keep your eye on Dani if Amy does win POV....she will be on Amy like stink on poop. She will pressure Amy in the strongest possible way to bend Amy to HER will. She will not just sit back and let Amy play her own game, like some folks suggested.

Earthmother

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 11:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
She hasn't let Amy play her game yet. She goes after her with a vengence if Amy steps out of line (Dani's line that is) and gets Marc (the dad) to put little Amy on restriction until she learns how to behave. If that's not mindf***ing and bullying then what is?

Getting rid of Roddy is her way to keep Lisa, Amy, Marc and Jason to tow her line until she decides who she will sacrifice next. I'm not saying it is wrong if they fall for it, just like it wasn't wrong for Roddy to do it when Chiara, Josh and Eric fell for it.

Gina8642

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 11:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL at Bmh

Yup that was my thread. Really mad at the time for it being changed. Over that now, the mod appoligized. But like I said. I don't want to exclusively bash anyone. I like it when people can express their positive and negative thoughts toward the all the HGs. While I have negative things to say about Dani, I don't think she is all bad, or even remotely close to a bad person.

I actually think they are all good people. I don't like the way they all play the game, but it is a game. BTW - I also don't think there is a right or a wrong way to play the game.

Wcv63

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 11:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
SanFran...you obviously missed Amy's realization last night that Roddy had been playing her. She will NOT fall on a sword for Roddy and she is as determined as the rest of the house that Roddy needs to go NOW.

I know the thread explaining this is big (over 700 posts and still going) but a small summary would be that when Amy asked Roddy to guarantee her that she would have his vote if she took him down with POV he equivocated. She realized then that Roddy did not have her best interests at heart no matter what he had been telling her.

We watched Amy grow up right before our very eyes.

Battlestar

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 11:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
--too bad she doesn't know that she will be next to go

Sanfranjoshfan

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 11:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am still a Roddy fan...but my journey has been interesting. When he was hooked up with Chiara, and she nommed him with Josh, I wanted Roddy gone, even though I couldn't stand Josh. Earlier in the game, I wanted Eric, Josh, Lisa, and Chiara out because they appeared to be a solid alliance that would run the entire game. That proved to NOT be the case....they only APPEARED to be a tight voting block....but they usually voted their own separate ways, thus proving they had little real power at all....it was just a perception that tainted Roddy in the long run.

Once Roddy was left with no more flying monkeys, I started to like him a lot more. I saw that most of the animosity directed towards him started when he was part of the group of "good people", a label that LISA used to describe them, not Roddy.

Looking back, he has been pretty consistent and honest compared to the rest. His reputation was sullied by the company he kept. He chose losers to align with and that will be his downfall. But even as my respect for Roddy has risen, my respect for Dani and Marce has fallen proportionately. The *perceived* power of all these players is one thing....but over the last few weeks when I watched the *actual* behavior and how these folks played the game, Roddy rose to the top (right along with Jason), while Dani and Marce sank to the bottom and got mired in the scum.

Sanfranjoshfan

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 11:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wcv63 - Yes I missed that...I didn't know about Amy changing her feelings about Roddy. But as I see it, if that is true then she is choosing to be played by Marce, Dani, Jason, and Lisa instead of being played by Roddy. She is gone next week anyhow (according to Jason and Dani's pecking order) so Amy saving Roddy would only give her one less week in the house, but if she knew how she was being played by all the rest, saving Roddy should give her (and me) some satisfaction. :-)

Bottom line - Amy is being played by *everybody*, but more so by her best friend, Marce (a minion of Dani) than anyone else.

Efilon

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 11:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Gina, yes, that thread was a mess. My post there was moderated. I wonder if I can get by with it here.

I said: Dani is really good at not winning HOH and then telling the HOH, and everyone else for that matter, who to put up and how to vote.

I didn't think that was all that awful seeing some of the things that have been said about Roddy and other houseguests but I guess it was.

It was just my opinion but evidently not a valid one for that thread at that time.

Battlestar

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 11:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
--and AMY being played by Marcel will be the most painful.

Ricki55

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 11:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm still a fan of Roddy. I wasn't always a fan but he slowly grew on me. That or the other houseguests disappointed me too much. If he, Jason, or maybe Amy win I will be happy.

Marcellus, Danielle, and Lisa are way down on the bottom of my list.

I wish people would stop harping on how "evil" he is while they disregard what other houseguests do and say. I know he's done a lot of stuff wrong, but so has everyone else. When I weigh him against others (according to my standards) he comes out toward the top.

Whew! I don't usually write this much. (please no flaming by Roddy-haters)

Kotasmommy

Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 12:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Funny, I think we'd all act in the same manner that the hg's have. They want to win. You have to lie and be sneaky. That's what they signed up for. Roddy is absolutely no worse than Dani or anyone else for that matter. And we are no better than him either. You never know til you walk in their shoes. That crazy place would bring out the worst in anyone. I'm just glad I'm not in there, having everyone watching me hating my guts just because I'm trying to play to win. GO RODDY!!!!!!