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Moondance

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 12:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hermione69, I hope it is just your last in this thread... stay on the board, I enjoy your posts:)

It is so hard to make people understand and to have your challenges questions... not a good feeling ... I wish people would think before posting sometimes. JMO

Kady

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 12:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Even though I have not posted in this thread, I have enjoyed reading your thoughts, Hermione. I have learned alot from you. During BB, the board gets really tense. But the rest of the year it is a really nice place to be. :)

Hermione69

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 01:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I know I said this was my last post, but I wanted to let you guys know that I did mean on this topic!! LOL! I'm not leaving the board and I didn't mean to sound as if I was storming off in a snit! I just got exasperated that people who don't know what it is like want to argue about it. Deaf and Hard of Hearing people can be very sensitive about their voices. I started a job in a new school about two years ago and had so many people comment on how I talked that I didn't even want to open my mouth and say anything! I started to get so self-conscious from the comments that my speech actually worsened because I was so hyper aware of my voice. Thankfully, that passed as they got used to me and after awhile no one thought twice about it.

BTW since I am here and already pontificating.... ;-) Lisa is apparently deaf in ONE ear. Yes, that can affect her voice. I have a friend who has a little girl who is deaf in one ear and has 100% hearing in the other and people tell me that her voice sounds a lot like mine. So Eric could whisper in her good ear and Lisa could hear him. Jhezzie pointed that out earlier!

This is REALLY my last post on the topic. Really, really, REALLY! :-)

Bernie

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 01:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hermione, and Moondance, please don't be hurt. People are just speaking of their own experiences, and those experiences affect the way we try to understand things.
No one means to be unkind, I'm sure, although sometimes we aren't as sensitive to each other as we should be. I certainly didn't mean to be unkind, and I was only thinking about Lisa and her possible problem when I posted.
I was just explaining what my experience has been, and that affects how I try to understand Lisa.
I hope that you will stay, and keep posting. Everyone's voice is welcome and of equal value.
We would be sorry to lose yours.
God bless (((Hermione))) (((Moondance)))

Bernie

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 01:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Glad to know you're staying, Hermione!

Moondance

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 01:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bernie ... you were just stating your experience, not trying to question anyone's else...so no problem!:)

I have heard time with my speech and expressions in writing LOL

Curlyq

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 01:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope this doesn't stir anything up, but are we absolutely sure Lisa really is deaf in one ear? Is it possible she might have just been exaggerating a little to convey that she worked in a noisy place? She seems to be able to hold her own in whispered conversations, and in eavesdropping through doors. Remember her listening in on Gerry and Josh through the storage room door? I seem to remember it being her left ear that was aimed at the door. Is that the one she said she's deaf in?

Sia

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 01:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hermione, I don't think the thread was created to make fun of Lisa's voice--and if it WAS created for that, you and the rest of us TURNED THE THREAD AROUND!!! Yay!

Lisa has been like all the other houseguests, using any angle she can to influence the other players to keep her in the game. I've not heard her mention that she has a hearing impairment; that's an unsubstantiated rumour, as far as I'm concerned, so I don't think she's used that for any sympathy at all.

Lisa has used a completely different excuse to justify why she "needs" the big-prize money; she's milking the "I'm-just-a-poor-bartender" angle. Someone posted that she worked in a bar and that she said she HAD to work in THAT bar. That is the point I'm getting at in regard to Lisa. I don't buy that she "HAD" to work anywhere she didn't want to work. Either she liked the job, the environment, the coworkers, or she was unwilling to switch careers or employers. Nobody HAS to work in a specific location--including bartenders: there are tons of bars everywhere, and they are usually hiring! Nobody made her stay at any particular bar; that would have been her choice.

Curlyq

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 01:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually, I think she said that she was now finished with bartending and intends to become a full-time photographer. Someone mentioned that he'd come to her bar for free drinks and she corrected him saying she'd give him free head shots instead. So I don't think she's even using a poor bartender angle.

Kaybb

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 02:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This has been an enlightening thread ... I am presently losing my hearing ... my children, husband and I laugh quite often over the things that I "think" people say versus the actual wording. My ears do strange things to words now. I have a hard time in crowds or if the TV is on a little loud and people are talking ... I can't distinguished between words and it sound like a bunch of Charlie Brown teachers talking at once. Now for the nasal-voices ... I cringed when I first read these post ... my youngest son who has major sinus, allergy and asthma problems talks like he has a clothespin on his nose all the time. Everyone tells him to blow his nose constantly. It breaks my heart to hear others tease him about something he can't help ... he does try when it is brought to his attention. He is a mouth breather, perhaps that has something to do with it being a little worse than with others ... not certain though. If it doesn't change after he goes through puberty (which could be at anytime ... gad ... I've already had a daughter and older son ... they are 13 months apart ... got through puberty at once). He does seem to brush off or handles it well when he is teased. I take lessons from him when I have something less than polite said to me. (Also with our deep southern twang you can imagine why I don't talk much when we run the video camera. Eek! haha) Any advice or opinion would be welcomed. Peace and laughter to all. Thanks for reading my post.

Bernie

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 03:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Moondance-you make yourself understood-that's what counts!

Bernie

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 03:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kaybb-I hear Charlie Brown all the time too, LOL!
Hang in there, one develops a thicker skin after a while-let those rude remarks be just water off a duck's back, and anyway, you don't have to dignify rude remarks with an answer!
I always think of Anne Landers, she used to say "Ask them why on earth would they ask such a question, or, why on earth would you say such a thing?" to rude people. It puts them on the spot, which is where they should be, instead of you! Good luck

Moondance

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 03:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good Advice Bernie!:)

Wedge

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 03:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have a few friends that are deaf , and yea their voices are different..I really dont see Lisa in that category at ALL...seems every HG has their quirks...so its Lisa's voice , who cares. Thats not nearly as nasty as things have gotten with other HG's ...( it could be worse ...god forbid youre Amy ,on this board she has been called WAYYY worse than having a funny voice ) so if people are annoyed with the voice...thats OK. She will live. She will be just fine. And I seriously dont think that anyone is slamming on the hard of hearing, I believe it was like a personal choice..either ya like the voice or ya dont...

Kaybb

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 03:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bernie, your words just put feathers in your angels wings for making someone's heart smile! Thank you, sincerely. :)

Bmh

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 03:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I dont know why we have this thread..ya Lisa has a squeaky voice what do you want her to do about it?..not talk..gezz..do we have to complain about everything

Wedge

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 03:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank you Bmh, my sentiments exactly...:)

Bernie

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 03:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You're welcome, and thank you, Moondance and Kaybb

Smowen99

Friday, August 30, 2002 - 06:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow! It's amazing how many threads are on this board that totally BASH a house guest, and a comment is made about Lisa's voice and all this drama is added to the thread. I definately have empathy for those of you who have any type of disability, or close to someone with a disability. My sister, who I am very close with, has M.S. and is blind in one eye. She is in her 40's and has lived like this since she was in her second year of H.S. Imagine that????? By all means....this thread was not intended to go into the direction it has gone in. My apologies to those of you who have taken offence to comments made. Now just close this damn post already!!!!!