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Mellbell416

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 06:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Not that this is in anyway a defense of Danielle - I really hate people slamming others behind their backs - but I wonder if she does it to keep the attention focused on anywhere other than her, and whether it is a tactic to set up people so that they are easier to evict. If you don't have much respect or liking for someone, it's easier to kick them out of the house.

So far it has been very successful, and nobody is calling her on it.

Ddr1135

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 07:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Mellbell416, I agree to some extent on your comment concerning Danielle. It is her strategy to keep the attention focused on other hgs. The minute Amy walks out of a room, she begins her negative comments. This week, she has started her campaign against Marcellus.

Has anyone else noticed that she constantly checks on the location of each houseguest? I laugh everytime she walks into the house, she goes from one end of the house to the other, looking for each houseguest.

I have to wonder if Dani will realize she can't win against Jason. What will she do? Keep her alliance with him?

Bcandscott

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 07:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani starts out pointing out something she considers a flaw in someone....Gerry, the hand washing....and she continues to note anything that supports her current theory...Gerry touched his forehead while cooking, Gerry coughed, Gerry doesn't shower (which was a LIE because he showered every morning while the slugs were still abed) and she harps and harps...and other HGs start watching and thinking wow, Dani's right and they notice things too. Eventually, everyone is talking about how filthy and smelly Gerry is. Dani's rumors become fact and the person who is targeted is trashed even if everyone else in the house is guilty of equal or worse behavior.

Now it's Amy's turn. Danielle started with a few comments about Amy being flirty. Then there was the supposed hot tub flash which ONLY Dani saw, culminating last night in every movement, every comment Amy made. The way she stood behind a chair and leaned over, her butt in the air, the way she stretched, the LIE about flashing the camera. And all the others are picking up the cue from Dani and starting to notice EVERYTHING about Amy. This SINGLE MINDED attack on an individual on PERSONAL issues is what is bothering me about this group. It's not GAME, it's PERSONAL and it's painful to watch. When Dani said last night that "At least Chiara had class" I was floored. I can't imagine using the name Chiara and the word class in the same sentence.


Most of the problem with Amy yesterday had to do with 1) she got MORE clothes in the AC shopping spree than Dani and 2) she looked really good in that white dress. 1) made Dani want to cook her alive and 2) aggravated Marcy no end because she's cuter than he is and gets more attention from Jason and Roddy.

Please note, the PROBLEM DRINKING OF AMY consisted of three beers and two glasses of wine. Yep, not a whole keg, not a whole six pack, not a whole bottle of wine and a case of beer, but 3 beers and 2 glasses of wine. IF she had been rip snortin' drunk as everyone seemed to think, why was she back up after her nap? We haven't seen her throw up after drinking, we haven't seen her unable to function the next day. Amy's "alcohol problem" is, like everything else, speculation that Dani began and others JOINED in their "Lord of the Flies" mentality in that house.

Amy's so called provacative stretching and carrying on is a product of her training in gymnastics and being a twirler. I watched the little dance she did in front of the mirror where she did NOT flash anyone and recognized it as part of a little majorette routine, minus the baton. Hell, she even pretended to HOLD a baton.

Yeah, Amy is sometimes her own worst enemy. When Dani starts this stuff and everyone starts whispering about her, she becomes overly animated. This isn't JUST the alcohol because she does it stone cold sober. It is her trying to hard, trying to be liked. We just got finished watching Gerry do this for weeks, trying WAY too hard and coming off as more annoying, when he was being ostracized. Amy is doing the same thing.

I wonder if Dani noticed how Lisa was standing, leaning over on the food island in the kitchen last night, her butt stuck up in the air. I hope she caught that because in a couple of weeks, when Amy is gone, Dani is going to be looking for some one else to verbally execute.

Gidget

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 07:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe I should be posting in the you know you are watching too much... Last night I went to bed after Amy fell out of the hammock. I just figured it was going to be a long night of nastiness.

Then I woke up this morning anxious to see what went on when I had an epiphany. Amy is afraid to use the POV but she really wants to. So her subconscious has taken over the task for her. Last night she did every thing she could to ensure she would be voted out this week. She begged for other people's liquor. She got drunk. And some people here said it was surprising how drunk she seemed on only 4 drinks. I thought that was because she is a small person. But in retrospect, I think it was the power of suggestion.

Amy's behavoir last night was about a battle with her subconscious. Not about a drinking problem.

Theo17

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 07:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
so funny that people have turned this in to a bash danni thread. danni is not the only one over the last 2 months that mentioned amys drinking. Its been a reccuring theme from the very first night, to her argument with tonya about drinking everyone elses beer, to her video from mexico holding a drink, and even to a gnome with a beer near being amys. danni didnt have to say anything for me to see amy corner jason and ask for his beer even after he said no. Then tell him not to tell marcy. I also saw her ask for roddys wine and roddy not be too happy being asked. Danni wasnt around during either of these times but it must have been her fault. I like amy and want her to win but I also believe in personal responsibility and if people in the house are upset with amys drinking I think it has a lot more to do with amy than danni, roddy, marcy, lisa or jason. She should be an adult. Not try to take everyone elses beer or wine and just enjoy hers in moderation.

Bcandscott

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 07:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Listen carefully....Dani STARTS the mantra, the rest of them pick it up and it has a life of its own after that. Dani did this to Gerry and now is doing it to Amy. I'm sorry if it sounds like Dani bashing but Dani has LIED blatantly about people in order to make them objects of ridicule by the other houseguests and to make herself look better. I'm not saying she is the only one who says these things and LIES about the others, I'm saying she starts it and INFLUENCES the others to perpetuate the nastiness.

Her EXESSIVE DRINKING last night consisted of 3 beers and two glasses of wine. When was the last time she did that? Yesterday? Day before? The whole AMY HAS A HORRID DRINKING PROBLEM is the product of the idea being PLANTED in everyone's mind.

Ddr1135

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 07:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Theo, you are right, it shouldn't become a Dani bashing thread. Sorry.

Bbnan

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 07:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bernie,
I was joking about the cheese business. Should have put a smilie face there I guess. :-)
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Those were two very large glasses of wine, and I'm not sure that there wasn't more.

Ginger1218

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 07:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think BB should cut out the drinking. Obviously Amy has a severe drinking problem and they are making it worse. They are being irresponsible. Also Bcandscott, excessive drinking for an alcoholic can be ONE drink. It is clear that she cannot handle it. Never mind what Dani or anyone in the house says or thinks. We watch it and she is bombed and disgusting. It is sooo unattractive and it just seems like BB is supporting this.

Hermione69

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 07:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"The whole AMY HAS A HORRID DRINKING PROBLEM is the product of the idea being PLANTED in everyone's mind."

Actually, it's not. She has many signs of a problem. Ultimately, it is not for anyone to call but Amy, but the signs are there. A LFPer caught earier that she poured wine and beer into the same glass and drank it. There's one right there. The thing is, her behavior last night wasn't THAT bad, IMHO, and the HGs are using it as an excuse to jump down her throat. She is giving them ammunition.

Theo17

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 07:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
bcand thats a cop out. Not every deal has been started by dani. Besides even if it was if somebody says something to me I dont automatically hop on the bandwagon. I dont think marcy or amy have ever needed an excuse to cut somebody down. They seem very proficient in the tonya bashing and gerry bashing when danni is not anywhere close to them. I'm not excusing dannis actions but you seem to blame her for everything and thats a joke. She is only responsible for her own actions. Nobody elses. They are all adults.Amy did drink to excess last night. It isnt the total quantity somebody drinks it the effect it has on them. Atleast 3 beers and 2 glasses of wine in an hour for such a small girl obviously had an effect on her didnt it?
By the way was it danni in the second week of the house that had a blow up with amy over amy drinking everyone elses beer? I could have sworn it was tonya. I Guess it was danis fault though because danni was breathing and alive at that time. What are you going to blame danni for next? If you say she was on the grassy knoll I'm going to argue because she wasnt even alive then.

Earthmother

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 08:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I really don't know what is upsetting everyone. This has been their MO since the beginning of the show. They will always find someone to demoralize so they can plant the seed for future evictions. "If we start now we can embellish on it when it's necessary."

Perhaps Jason doesn't say it but he condons it to a certain degree so he can stay in Dani's good graces and lets the others think he agrees with them.

Even though it's not IMO fair-play it's the way they have chosen to play the game. Only time and the impact their trashing makes on the jury will decide whether it was a smart way to play. Just like last year it will boil down to "The lesser of two evils."

Hermione69

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 08:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"Just like last year it will boil down to "The lesser of two evils."

I said something about that in another thread, Earthmother, LOL! I was trying to remember how Kent put the final vote between Nicole and Will-- something like, "This is like having to choose between an ingrown toenail and a boil." Anyone remember his exact words??? They were funny!

Efilon

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 08:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy did not pour beer in with wine. She had poured beer into the wine glass after she had finished the wine. She said she couldn't drink beer out of a bottle while wearing that dress. So when she poured the beer into the wine glass that already had something in it, the something in it was beer.

Hermione69

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 08:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"I've heard several people argue whether she is an alcoholic or not. Personally, I could care less. But I saw her pour what was left of her beer into a 1/2 glass of wine tonight. Is that normal? ( i'm not a drinker )"

I was just going from this post earlier in the archives. My bad if I was wrong about that one, but I can still point out ten other signs that she MAY have a problem. I happen to disagree with the idea that her possible problem is nonsense and simply a result of Dani's planting ideas in the other HGs head. I don't think that is true.

Wiseolowl

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 09:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm in favour of locking it - let's just say that what happened last night was sad and manipulated by BB to make it that way and to exagerate all of their weaknesses.

Indybarb

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 09:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i just wish they would wake up the guests and VOTE now before amy can do anything else, or roddy gets her one last time !!!

Bernie

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 10:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
BBnan-I know you were-that's why I posted the math/music thing!

I think you're right, Wiseolowl. Even Jason twigged to that idea last night, and didn't want to say, until they dragged it out of him, but none of them picked up on it-too scared of BB to dwell on the subject. Even knowing that they're being manipulated, they can't do a darn thing about it.

Spunky

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 06:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy said "NO BOOZE FOR AMY tonight"!!

Danielle said just her share...

Gidget

Monday, September 02, 2002 - 06:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani doesn't want to give up her drink??? Does she thrive on chaos? I think so. How dare these people talk about Amy's problem? Could Dani BE any more selfish?