Archive through August 31, 2002
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Archive through August 31, 2002
Theo17 | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 06:24 am     I wouldnt be shocked if he compares himself to Jesus being crucified before the week is up. |
Reader234 | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 06:37 am     Goddessatlaw, I commend you for trying to help us sleepers what the heck this 600+ thread is about!! I just know I will have missed some interesting things, that will NOT make it to a produced TV show!! And at the same time, I cannot imagine HOW you'll be able to!! I know that this year sure has thrown wrenches, FOTH, LF commercials, the cost of the feeds vs the quality... And yet there are still those that are willing to SHARE!! Share info, share lf, all I think is I'd better thank all these people for contributing to my addiction, 'cause w/o it I sure wouldnt care about BB3!! |
Kmjm | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 06:41 am     WOW! What a night! I had to go to bed while Roddy was working Danielle- I was falling asleep over my keyboard. Thanks to all of you who posted during the night! I am so glad that the rest of the house now sees the light! |
Webkitty | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:44 am     WOW! I just read this entire thread! I would like to thank each and every poster here that stayed up all night to analyze and agonize with each new twist and turn (and even if you didn't stay up all night, anyone who contributed to this fantastic thread) I felt like I was really *there* thanks to all of you, TVCH rocks! Thanks again for your comments/analysis/opinions/clarifications and reporting of events that added to, and enriched the live feed posts (who are ALWAYS appriciated, of course)  |
Robinyyes | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:59 am     Theo, I've been watching your comments go deeper and deeper into that void of bashing the HGs. Yes I like Roddy, but aside from that I would be offended if you were talking about Josh this way, (and i was no defender of Josh) I am only surprised that the mods haven't had a little chat with you yet. I hope that they do now. Please stop with the over the top bashing and stick to the subject at hand. |
Scotia_Nova | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:03 am     Theo, I think Roddy was taking a nap and not even worried about Marcellas nominating him - he thought the Hot Tub convo was a done deal. Imagine his shock when Marc claimed ignorance at that deal later on the BBcourt. I can't wait to see tonight's show to see his face when M nominated him. |
Scotia_Nova | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:07 am     I said on another board a few weeks ago that there are support groups for women who have been involved with men like Roddy. It's very distressing for me to see the emotional abuse he has heaped on the weaker people especially. Amy has been put through the wringer with all the crap she has taken from Marc and Roddy - yet marc always seems to redeem himself, perhaps because he's coming from a place of trying to help her. Roddy seems to get his jollies from making others question themselves. |
Gidget | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:08 am     I think Roddy really is 30 because... up until now, Roddy has probably been able to use his intelligence to make things go his way in life. Being relatively young he probably hasn't been in a position before where people who are "dumber" than he get the better of him. What he is learning now is that even dumb people come out on top sometimes. Life is not alway about book learnin' and good grades. In fact, I don't remember the title of the book but someone wrote about how "c" students often go further in life than "a" students because they have learned how to work harder to get something they want and that they aren't always going to get what they want so they cope with disappoint better and rechannel themselves back towards the prize more easily. |
Wendo | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:09 am     You know, about the Hot Tub deal. I keep thinking about someone saying that all conversations are going to be seen differently by the participants. Roddy feels they had a firm deal. Marcellas, on the other hand, feels they didn't. Could it be possible that one thought one way and the other thought the opposite because they perceived and interpreted the conversation differently? I mean, it does happen. |
Tortie2k | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:14 am     Gidget: ...work harder...cope with disappointment...rechannel... That's really right-on stuff. I've known many so-called gifted people with a sense of entitlement who end up dissatisfied with the way things turned out. |
Theo17 | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:23 am     Robin This is America where free speech is enouraged.I have stated in many waysthat I do not like roddys dirty manipulating. If you do not like my opinion please feel free not to read my posts but last time I looked this wasnt Nazi Germany. |
Hermione69 | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:23 am     Roddy has been called emotionally abusive by many, many people on this board. I've said this before, I am a survivor of an emotionally abusive marriage (man, have I been through enough-- hearing loss, emotionally abusive marriage and alcoholism. They need to put me in the BB house and cover three bases with one person, LOL!). Anyway, I got out of my marriage and went through therapy for years. My "emotionally abusive man-dar" does not pick up on Roddy being in that class and I'm pretty good at spotting them now. I remember posting on this before and another woman who is also a victim and survivor of emotional abuse agreed with me. The reason I am bringing this up is that calling someone emotionally abusive is very harsh and that is not a label that should be bantered about lightly. This may be moderated out, but are there other women who have been victims of emotional abuse who DO see that in Roddy? I would be interested in hearing from other women who have been there to see what they think. May end up changing my opinion. |
Wrat1010 | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:23 am     Wendo, as BB2wastheBEST posted on Jokersupdates P/X boards at 08/31/02 07:48 AM One of Roddy's weaknesses: "Never makes CLEAR deals, always talks in circles when making deals & this has backfired on him twice (Jason voting Eric out, Hottub with Marc.)" So it's definitely possible. It could be that Marcellas saw how easily Jason got out of that deal and realized he could do the same because his "perception" was different than Roddy's. Of course, if Danielle and Jason are the final 2 then Marcellas will realize that Danielle could back out of her deal with him by the same logic. It'll be interesting if they show Danielle and Marcellas's final 2 conversation from before nominations on tonight's show -- if they don't then I'll be convinced that AS/BB/CBS wants Danielle to win. |
Theo17 | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:26 am     Scotia I think you are 100% right. I mentioned that it was really odd that he didnt try to manipulate marcy ala jason. His being so relaxed scared me a lot. I'm very happy now because why all the other hg's have flaws in this pressure cooker I can honestly say I wouldnt mind any of them winning once roddy is gone. |
Theo17 | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:27 am     Herm after your personal expieriences and you watching these boards I bet you would have a good shot at winning. If you ever get on I will be rooting for you!!!!!!!! |
Theo17 | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:33 am     Wendo there is no doubt the hot tub deal happened. But why should that matter if roddys has had deals with eric, josh, kiki, gerry, dani, jason and now marcy? Thats part of the game. Who you can trust and who is playing you. Roddy played many people so this time he got played by Marcy. What comes around goes around. Marcy realized last week that roddy had a deal with gerry and jason and his deal wasnt worth the paper it was not printed on. I still cant believe he told marcy he voted against josh and he will see it on the tapes. That was an outright lie. The tapes will show that as does the voting history on this website. |
Theo17 | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:37 am     Here is another lie from last night. R: That's strange.. it keeps coming up but there are things I had nothing to do with. Chiara made them vote... and then she nominates me, and I was like "sh*t I made a mistake" she didn't tell me before nad when she put me up... She not only told him she also discussed it with him and gerry while fixing the votes. |
Theo17 | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:39 am     I thought it was roddy that told jason this not the other way around. Did I make a mistake? Roddy explains that Marc told him that the whole house doesn't trust him. He said that Marc said that Jason doesn't trust him. Roddy says that Jason has lied because during HOH Jason said to him that he (Jason) trust Roddy "100%". |
Car54 | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:46 am     Hermione, thank you. Your background makes you very sensitive to this issue. I feel the same way. There is a difference between someone who is a very strong personality who is manipulative and one who is abusive. Abuse is a very serious charge to make. |
Ddr1135 | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:47 am     Hermione69....First time I heard Roddy in action, I was reminded of so many arguments that I had with my ex. I learned to just walk away after a certain point, you can't win. My ex used Roddy tactics in arguments we would have. Constantly cutting in on my point of view, pointing out my faults, never taking blame for anything. Even if HE had done something wrong, it still ended up being my fault. I learned early in my marriage never to say "I'm sorry" to him. That allowed him to open up full throttle in his preaching sessions. I could never win an argument with him, let alone get my point across. His mind was made up long before I had even walked into the room. Back to Roddy: I can't wait for this morning! He went to bed thinking he had accomplished a lot on the first night of nomination. Oooh, he's in for a surprise. Question: If Roddy wins POV, will he take Amy off just to throw someone else into the nominations as revenge? |
Wcv63 | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:49 am     Hermione, yes I think the way that Roddy chooses to use his knowledge of psychology and his intelligence does border on emotional abuse. I hesitate to come right out and call him an emotionally abusive personality because we only know his actions in the context of the game. However, from what I have seen of his tactics in the game and the way he targets the part of each person where they are most vulnerable and then sets about to exploit that weakness smacks of emotional blackmail. His ability to be critical (overly so at times) while giving a pass to himself in the same areas and then turning things around so that his "victim" apologizes to him for putting him in that position is also indicative of a controlling nature. Additionally, IMO he holds up his own "awesomeness, integrity and trustworthiness" as examples of his superiority. From what I know of Roddy in the game, I don't like. |
Theo17 | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:53 am     dddr I doubt roddy uses pov thinking his best bet at safty is to get amy out. to try at the last minute to start bashing yet another person would be hard unless he is convinced that amy would vote for him. Marcy should let it be known if roddy wins that he will be putting lisa up. Lisa is his only possible vote so that would backfire. Herm I respect your opinion via roddy and dont have any clinical terms for it. I just find him to be a bully. Watching him with kiki, josh, marcy,jason and danny at various times just reinforces my opinion. |
Gidget | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:58 am     I think emotional abusers are manipulators who have become losers. Emotional abuse uses the same tactics as manipulation but abusers do it because they are losers and need a scape goat for their psychological inadequacies. Manipulators can have a much wider array of agendas than just making themselves feel superior. I do not think Roddy is an abuser but some of his actions towards Chiara, like correcting her behavior was borderline and really gave me the creeps |
Bastable | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:59 am     It's 9 a.m. and Roddy's already up! He's in the kitchen with Dani, telling her how "cool" he's been giving her the benefit of the doubt and "trusting" her and being "extraordinarily patient" with people. He's going to exhaust himself lobbying! His desperation is obvious. When you burn the candle from both ends, you get burned. |
Annitar | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 09:01 am     Feed 4 Roddy at it again! He's working Dani already again this morning!! They just got out of the freakin bed! He is working her bigtime against Marce! This guy makes me sick! I am in awe of him! He has no scruples!! I can't believe he just rolled out of bed and his is at again! Desperate and pathetic!! |
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