Archive through September 02, 2002
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Archive through September 02, 2002
Wendo | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 01:18 pm     Camel, all he was trying to do right then to Amy was make her feel like sh*t. Nothing more. That's the Roddy I've seen since BB started. Someone who blames other people for things that go wrong for himself. Maybe if he had treated her better during his nomination speech of her, maybe if he hadn't of worked her so hard that she felt used, then maybe things could have gone better. Roddy is to blame for not getting that veto. He needs to take responsibility for his own actions rather than blame other people. What a schmuck. Oh, now he's using the argument, "It's such a shame that both of us won't be in the house together now. No chance of it. Could've been a great move." Another guilt trip by that "awesome" guy Roddy. |
Zeyna | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 01:18 pm     I agree, Amy does not owe Roddy anything, but she should have said that if she vetos him, she will go and that's it. She is doing it to save herself, period. Can't wait to see the speech on Wednesday. |
Maris | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 01:18 pm     Yep Amy should be getting a clue here, Nobody wants her help with washing towels. She is on the outside now and that is it, its the end for Amy and for Roddy. |
Theo17 | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 01:20 pm     sean the only way to win a arguement with roddy is too walk away. Thats why he got so pissed at marcy. The only person left in the house that roddy hasnt "forgiven" is lisa. Talk about a god complex. |
Theo17 | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 01:21 pm     You know everytime I want to give roddy the benefit of the doubt he bullys someone else. I hope his image that he is obsessed over outside the house is tainted by this. UGHHHHHHHH Girl is bawling and he still beats up on her????? |
Battlestar | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 01:22 pm     she is NOT a promise breaker---I don't believe the promise existed anymore. Void and Null when Roddy evicted her. Her character is intact--she is not willing to sacrifice herself for someone who allowed so many others to fall for his exclusive benefit. |
Earthmother | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 01:22 pm     As I have said before, all she has to do is walk away..why does she have the need to apologize. If she becomes victimized by him it's her fault,she needs to distance herself and behave for 2 days. She can stick like glue to Dani (mom) then Dani won't be able to trash her behind her back, or she can stick to Marc and really be victimized. |
Bbnan | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 01:22 pm     They couldn't say "good job" until Roddy was called to the DR. As soon as he was safely away Dani told her "good job...we all agree you did a good job" |
Cameltoes | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 01:23 pm     That really disgusted me too Wendo. Just rubbing salt into the wound. "Could've been a great move" - oh please. He knows there was NO chance of them being in the house together. He wanted her gone.. period. I can't believe he wants her to feel guilty because he wants her out of the house. |
Cinder | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 01:24 pm     But first they tried to get rid of her by asking her to get Marci a glass of water. But she was smart and said there was one right behind him. |
Earthmother | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 01:24 pm     We all know why they aren't coming to her because she is going next. Roddy tried to tell her that. If she had saved him then there was a chance she would have been saved as well, but now she handed the game to the very people who have demonized her since day one. |
Theo17 | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 01:25 pm     battlestar roddy is under the impression that no matter how many times I try to evict and boot you that you still need to save me. That "deal" was null and void the minute he gave his nasty nomination speech to her and strong armed her out of the house. Then just last week he was trying to get her booted again. He has some nerve saying its a shame they wont both be there. He has never wanted them both there |
Bbfanatic | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 01:26 pm     last night when amy was asleep ( or passed out), i not quite sure which it is, on the hammock many were saying why dont somebody go out and get her, help her. now many are saying why dont they help her, comfort her. that is exactly what amy wants. she loves being the center of attention and the other hgs realize that. maybe, just maybe that is why they dont go running to her right when she starts her cry sessions. maybe they have come so use to it and now see it for what it is. |
Wendo | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 01:26 pm     Carolm said, "I'm mad that Marc,Dani,Jason or Lisa isnt in room telling her she did good. Roddy would of dump her if she did use it. He must be sooooo mad LOL Now Fun begins when Roddy corners Jason & Lisa. Hope they are as strong as Amy......." Wait a minute. We don't know what happened when it was still FOTH. So, they probably already talked to her and said good job. Even Lisa and Jason said to her yesterday, that if she doesn't use the veto, their is nothing wrong with that. Basically, they told her don't buy Roddy's crap. Additionally, maybe they didn't know Roddy was going off on her in the house. Who would think he would go after her like that. Until she lets them know what happened, they don't know they need to comfort her. See, right now, Marcellas is talking to her. All will be good. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 01:27 pm     Let me preface this by saying I wouldn't mind at all if Amy won. I like her, even though she has some issues to deal with. But...let's face facts. Amy went out of her way to lead Roddy on to beleive that she was using the POV. SHE brought up that old deal with the boxes. She won the POV and then immediately went into the HOH room giving high fives to Dani, Marce, Lisa and Jason as she gave her word that she was NOT going to use it. She also went on and on about how it was going to be so much fun to let him think she would use it, then do the opposite in the POV meeting. She was laughing her a$$ off at the prospect of this double deal, even going so far as saying it would be tough not to let on to Roddy what she was actually planning to do. At the time I thought "So much for her speech about not using revenge as a game motive." Did no one expect Roddy to not be angry? So he got angry at Amy...big deal! She must have expected him to since she led him on for days even as she planned to snatch away his last hope in a meeting that will definitely be on national TV. She was shooting for revenge and humiliation and she got what she wanted. So what if he pointed out what he perceived as illogical flaws in her argument? He had every right to be angry and he expressed his feelings and then he gave Amy a hug and a kiss and told he that he understands that she did what she thought was best. I don't remember Josh behaving that way or Chiara. Give the guy a break...he's only human...he's not the "messiah" like Jason and he's not the "devil" like Dani keeps calling him. He's just a guy that was lied to and that upset him. JMO |
Jag2000 | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 01:29 pm     I watched the tape last night with the veto boxes and it does not show what Danny promised so I watched it a second time. Someone offered Amy all of their alcohol and she declined and someone offered her all of their cheese and she declined. Josh offered Danny no more butt hits and she declined. I think Jason offered someone free massages. There isn't anything about the deal that Roddy and Danny made. |
Battlestar | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 01:30 pm     sanfran---I wish there could have been some way to save Roddy without losing Amy |
Drpepper | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 01:32 pm     To those who think she broke a deal, IMO, when POV deals are made, they are in the context of not being on the block, so you are saving that person and you yourself cannot be touched. |
Cameltoes | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 01:34 pm     Amy did not lead him to believe she would use it. She said she would do that but her conversation with him the other night made it clear that she was leaning towards not using it. She gave him several arguments for not using it and ended it by saying she didn't know what she would do on Monday. He was definitely prepared for the possibility that she wold not use it and had already heard many of her arguments. He just took the opportunity to guilt her. I think guilting someone because they are doing what's best for them is the lowest of the low. |
Goddess146 | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 01:34 pm     No, Sanfran(bb1)joshfan, Roddy did not have the right to take his anger out on Amy. Roddy is not like most people. He has gone to enormous lengths to tell everyone what a amazing and wonderful guy he is. He has publicly stated that he is awsome with his kindness and love for everyone. Roddy has forsaken his right to express negative human emotions because he has established himself as the Mother Theresa of the house. Such a person has no right to be cruel to another human being. |
Wendo | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 01:35 pm     Bohawkins, I disagree. That promise was made before he put her up for nomination and targeted her for eviction. (Then, subsequently, had her evicted on a unanimous vote.) IMO, if he really felt she would honor that deal in the future, then he shouldn't have had her evicted in the first place. Just because, through circumstance, she came back in to the house does she have to honor that deal now. HE HAD HER EVICTED FOR CRIMENY SAKES. Are you telling me that if you were Amy you would have used it, knowing full well you were more than likely going to be evicted instead? Add on top of that his desire and efforts to get her evicted last week against Gerry, I don't think she "owed" him one god d*mn thing. Roddy's just pissed off she didn't do what she wanted. He needs to grow up and realize he's partly at fault for not getting off the block. As they said, you reap what you sow. Or, as Lisa said in a DR once, "Sometimes karma comes back and bites you on the butt." |
Sanfranjoshfan | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 01:35 pm     Drpepper - I see what you mean...but it was Amy that brought the deal up after she came back to the house. It was also Amy that led Roddy to believe that she was honoring that deal. She did that just so she could get back at him. |
Zeyna | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 01:37 pm     Wow, what do you guys expect Roddy to do? Thank Amy? She has guaranteed his exit. Can he get just a little bit of a break for being angry that moment? He was arguing logic with her and at the end gave her a hug. |
Wcv63 | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 01:38 pm     Oh SanFran..."he's just a guy that was lied to".. I just can't give credibility to this perceived "lie". If she didn't "lie" she would have been worked over mercilessly by him until the POV meeting. He wouldn't accept her reasons for not using the POV in discussion which were all VERY logical and reasonable, the biggest being that he refused to even give her the comfort of saying that he had her back if she vetoed him out. She did tell Jason that she wasn't going to give the "mean speech" she had planned because she felt like Roddy was a good guy even though she felt "played" by him. Did he have the right to get angry? Shrug. Did Amy have the right not to veto him out? Absolutely. Did Roddy have the right to verbally attack her because she didn't use the veto for his benefit? Absolutely not. Point. Counter point. |
Battlestar | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 01:39 pm     GODDESS---who made you GOD?? --but I don't blame Roddy for blowing off a little frustration, he knows he is gone, Amy was his only hope. She cries at a pin drop |
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