Archive through September 02, 2002
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Archive through September 02, 2002
Karuuna | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:23 pm     My guess is that BB intervened, since there was an FOTH right before Jason got up and put her to bed. |
Theo17 | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:27 pm     auntie judge not yest ye be judged. If you are going to condemn him via religion then I hope your soul is 100% clean as well. |
Puck1021 | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:29 pm     Jason IS playing the game by sitting in there while the others trashed Amy, but I just got done scanning over the live feeds and to his credit he did over and over tell them that he wanted them to stop and that he did not want to talk about it. Marc was the worse, he flat said that "Amy has to go this week",(my words here) keep the devil and get rid of the fallen angel, Marc is so two faced. Jason did say that he told her that if she uses the POV she will be gone but if she leaves things as they were her chances were 99.99999 that she would stay, Dani then said if she uses the POV she is 100% gone. I hope that she leaves things alone, if Rod goes Great, if Amy is voted out after Jason has taken the message from the others to her about using the POV and she leaves things alone, then he will realize that his alliance with D is only in his mind now and that she as well as everyone else is playing for the endgame. I do hope Rod goes this week, that Amy gets HoH next and nom's Marc and he goes next, then Dani, then Lisa, and that Amy and Jas or the final 2. They are all so two faced. I also agree with Jas, that BB knows what they are doing, he said that they gave them drinks tonight because of the POV and that BB thinks it is good TV, Smart boy. imo |
Auntiedotcom | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:32 pm     i am so glad that jason was the one to get up and go get her, whether or not BB said anything or not, at least he got on his feet and did something. i think that jason is going to be sitting and thinking about all that happened tonight. he was not really joining in with the bashing, he was listening to it. i wonder if his opinion of danielle is going to change once he's had time to ponder these things? |
Jaysgal | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:34 pm     Karuuna is right. Jason just said that the BB staff intervened (i.e., they said that they had tried to wake her up). That's still nice of him. I just wish he hadn't waited to be told. |
Marcellasfan | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:36 pm     Auntie! I was just thinking the same thing about Jason. I think he is going to re-hash what happened tonight and find everyone's action repulsive...including his own even though he didn't actively participate. If anyone will have a bought of conscience, it's going to be Jason. |
Theo17 | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:36 pm     OK since some need to beat on jason ill go a different route. Why didnt roddy go get her? Why did roddy leave her like that to begin with? Was that jasons fault also? |
Lancecrossfire | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:37 pm     Theo, we are all in trouble then, because we've been judging the actions of the HGs since the beginning. And the HGs have done a little of it themselves--in terms of religious beliefs I mean. It's also taken place between posters. I'm guessing non of our "souls" are 100% clean, although I also doubt that we will all stop commenting about the HGs. What we have to hope for is that we will evalaute them and pick the points we like and don't like based on their ctaions and words, and not make it personal and call them what their ctaions may show (remember, a person isn't stupid just because they make a stupid mistake) That last paragraph was for everyone--not just Theo |
Theo17 | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:38 pm     lance you are right but we have made our judgements on our own not using religion as a weapon to do so. I have never bashed a hg using religion to do so. I believe their religion is their business and not an excuse to hammer any of them |
Lancecrossfire | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:44 pm     I too believe we shoudln't use religion to evaluate the situation--unless that is what the person uses as their reference point to make their choices. In the case of Jason, he has kept his religion to himself and not forced it on anyone--he has only said it's an importtant part of his life. I realizing I'm guessing her, but it's all I can do since I don't know for sure. I think people look at what they are used to seeing as part of who they evaluate someone. If a person never swaers, then all of a sudden they do it once, some people become shocked. Someone else does it all the time, and that same person (doing the evaluating) isn't shocked. The evaluator may not like swaering, and in some cases may think the person who did it for the first time is worse than the person who does it regularly--because it's a new about thaht other person--almost like they let someone down for being "out of character". Ok, I'll shut up with these wild ideas. |
Crossfire | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:52 pm     Jason's religion is getting pushed on him by BB (or his parents who knows who sets these things up). During the first show, we see Jason standing in front of the church, then during the "How's mom" segment, we see Jason singing in the church, and all the patrons cheering for him. I don't know if they are doing any favors for him, but like it or not, it does "up the ante". |
Flygirl | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 12:04 am     Ok during this whole Amy bashing, or for that matter any HG bashing. Yes most of the hg were saying mean spirited things, but Jason is just as guilty bc he did not put an end to it or even stick up for them. He did say I dont want to talk about this, but that is not enough. He could of got up and left the room while they were bashing them. Dont get me wrong I love jason to death, but the feeds show even him is not that strict in his religion. I so he would not want any part of it. I think I would want to know if someone I thought was a friend of mine was saying hateful things behind my back. Yes it may hurt my feelings but still I would but a distance between my self and that person. |
Theo17 | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 12:09 am     listen they all should be held to the same standard. christian, jew, muslim, atheist or agnostic. They shouldnt be held up or pushed down based on religion. Thats crazy. If somebody was totally self rightous about it it would be a different story but I have never heard jason tell one person what they must do because of religion. He doesnt force his beliefs on others. |
Marcellasfan | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 12:13 am     integrity, conscience and morality are not for the religious only. |
Flygirl | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 12:13 am     I am not bashing any religion. All I am saying that he if he is true to his own relgion he would not let the bashing go on with out putting an end to it. Even if he was not any religion, but as nice as he wants to appear. He would not let that sort of thing happen inside the house. |
Theo17 | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 12:16 am     exactly marcellas. Good and bad people in religion and not in religion. Being religious doesnt make a person perfect either. If it did I would be religious. LOL (joke) |
Wcv63 | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 12:18 am     Flygirl..he's there to play a game. Why make himself the voice of conscience for the house and therefore make himself a target? If he were to walk out everytime someone started badmouthing someone else he would be completely out of the loop concerning what was going on in the house. He'd have to be recluse. And we all know what happens when someone seperates themself from the group. |
Duchess | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 12:58 am     If anything, having his religious conviction exposed has made Jason's game much more difficult than the other houseguests. He acknowleged that religion is important to him but he never pushed his views on anyone. BB has made him the token religious nut and therefore, he is being held to higher standards. I'm amazed that he kept to his standards without coming off as a bible thumper. His character is solid and dignified and his actions, even his little gestures, are enough testimony to his convictions. |
Earthmother | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 09:32 am     Jason has tried to stop the mean-spirited behavior. He asked them not to say mean things about Gerry (reminding them of Gerry's family) and asked them just yesterday not to say mean things about Amy. He is not going to cause a rukus and get himself kicked out, but in subtle ways like reminding them they are on camera is his way of trying to tone it down. It is not his job to police these people. If they look smarmy to the jury then it's a plus for him, but he has indirectly told them their behavior is out of line. |
Theo17 | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 09:35 am     I agree its not his job. He participates the least in it and he shouldnt be condemned based on his religion. I bet most the people in the house believe in God. |
Cindyluvsroddy | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 09:37 am     Roody does not participate in that slander either Theo .. |
Earthmother | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 09:45 am     You are right Cindy he doesn't. As a matter of fact Roddy was accused of being the devil for being being kind to Gerry in his last week there. He tried to explain to Lisa that he felt Gerry deserved at least one person to speak to him when others were being so cruel. Unfortunately his kindness was used against him as well. |
Theo17 | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 09:49 am     He slanders people just in a different type of way. He blames people for his own actions once they are out of the house and cant defend themselves. So far he has done that to tonya, eric, kiki, josh, and jerry. Josh was a good friend to him and he constantly tells people they are "pulling a josh" on him. I think roddy liked gerry so I'm glad he spoke with him but I also realize he was trying to save gerry and boot amy at the same time. Gerry didnt trust roddy. He said that many times in the last week as well as when he left the house. I know Roddy has forgiven him. LOL |
Cindyluvsroddy | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 09:53 am     lol theo - ive read that same speech in about 20 other threads .. campaigning to get someone nominated is one thing ... im talking about school yard name calling .. your not defending Dani, marcy and Lisa are u??? |
Earthmother | Monday, September 02, 2002 - 10:01 am     Theo, I'm of the school that no one can make you do what you don't want to do.. Those who are following Dani are doing what they want, she may plant the seed but they have all seen her in action and still choose to follow. I see the same thing with Roddy. He can not be blamed for Josh, Eric and Chiara choosing to side with him. Right now he is being accused of doing them in to protect himself, should he not protect himself? How did he do in Josh? Josh chose to behave the way he did. How did he do in Eric? He backed Eric every step and now it's being used against him. How did he do in Chiara? He didn't put her up, and she was evicted because of what she did to Lisa. Of course Roddy wanted her to keep Eric, why wouldn't he? He's not stupid, he knew about the girl thing. He is working people, so it Dani, so is Marc, so is Jason, so is Lisa. It's the game!!! |
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