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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Archive One: Ok, I'm done. Dani is going to throw HOH this week AGAIN!: Archive through August 28, 2002

Fabnsab

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 10:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This show is making me sick. Jason and Danielle are now in the ht talking about how Dani won't nominate Roddy because she gave her word to him and Jason told her to "bail on the first question." When are these jerks going to wake up??? They know exactly what Roddy is about. They know he can't be trusted. Then why, oh why, is their word so sacred regarding him? I am sooo sick of this, I swear. My keyboard is going to break, I am typing so hard.

Gbr

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 10:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good, maybe someone will vote her backstabiing lying arse outta there!!!!!!!!!!!

Maris

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 10:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
beats me. What I dont understand is they go on and on about how Roddy gets everyone to give their word and then others have to do the dirty work. Do they really care at this point if they gave their word to Roddy.

Everyone of them at one point or another has broken their word. It is so silly to stand on some ethical standard particularly when it is a deal they made with "the devil".

If Danni doesnt try for HOH then she deserves to get the boot.

Cameltoes

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 10:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL - are you really surprised? I never really believed she had the guts to break her word to Roddy. I hope BB screws them up good and makes it impossible to throw the next HOH - Roddy might be the only one who wants it.

Starshadow

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 10:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris...... I agree with all that you said!

Lombadier

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 10:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This is great news! I hope Roddy gets it, and if not Roddy, then Marcellas.

Seamonkey

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 10:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
WHAT is her problem.. just yesterday she was braying about how SHE would walk in there and close the door, talk to no one about her nominations and bring it on to the devil..

And she has the gall to accuse Roddy of getting others to do his dirty work (true) while she is way worse..

See. America's Choice was a mistake.. she got her family fix and doesn't "need" HOH.

She's so full of advice and admonitions for others but she's never experienced HOH or being nominated.. I hope that changes this week.

Jewell

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 10:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oy vey!! Throw HOH again??? And have the audacity to whine about not getting anything from home because she's never been HOH? Dani is my LEAST favorite houseguest. Roddy smacks of insincerity, but for some reason... like not having the guts to do her own dirty work... Dani is the worst!

If she does that, I hope Roddy does get HOH and she will be history!!

Gouraphik

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 10:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, if she does throw the HOH, it'll just be another case of Chicken Hawk disease. Danielle loves to talk about being tough...but she's too chicken to pull it off.

If she ends up being battered and fried by Roddy, she's only got herself (and Lady Luck) to blame.

Duchess

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 10:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If she isn't willing to put herself out there, then she doesn't deserve to win. I thought she said in the DR that sticking to her word is not a big deal to her?. I think she's just being a coward and is afraid to give anyone a reason to dislike her.

Spunky

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 10:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, nothing new there...

Dagny

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 10:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
When was Dani's deal made with Roddy?? They keep mentioning it, but I want to know the details.. Did anyone see the deal being made?

Maris

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 10:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think she is just dumb. She never deliberately loses she just doesnt know any of the answers. It just sounds a lot better if she tells people she is throwing it.

Willsfan

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 10:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope Roddy wins HOH! I'm crossing my fingers.

GO RODDY.

Duchess

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 10:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL, Maris. Funny, but she can't be THAT clueless!!!

Sbw

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 10:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
A thought that has crossed my mind many times.... HGs boast pre and post competitions about "throwing" the competition. These are competitors. They don't like to lose. So.... is this just a way to provide an excuse for their losing before hand or an excuse as to why they lost?? I know in some cases, such as the Roddy bailout, it is obvious those were intentionally thrown, unless he has a dead squid phobia. :) But in some cases it sure makes me wonder.

If this is not the case, I wonder how she can talk about Roddy not doing his own dirty work, when she can't do her own and admits it.

Jewell

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 10:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm getting a real deja-vu feeling here from BB2. I remember when my tide turned from despising the evil Dr. Will to really wanting him to win because everyone else was such a doof.

I think my tide is turning toward Roddy. They've had TWO chances to get rid of his insincere self, but blew those. If Dani intentionally throws HOH, well - she deserves what she gets and she doesn't deserve to win. Just my two cents (and my tide lol!)

Saph036

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 10:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is it possible that Dani may be feeling Jason out?. She said in the DR that she thinks Jason is being influenced by Roddy. Maybe she's testing the waters to see how Jason REALLY feels.

Personally, I can't understand one sentence that comes out of Jason's mouth. At this point Dani probably doesn't either.

I GAURENTEE you she will not throw HOH and if she wins Roddy will be put up at noms. She knows she can't put it off and that deal with Roddy is now null and void.

also, am I the only one that finds Jason's stuttering and lack of integrity annoying?

Go ahead Jason supporters and flame me. But the proof is in the pudding.

Wendo

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 10:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
A) I don't think Roddy's going to go for HOH either. He has so many deals with people so he feels rather safe AND who can he put up? Plus, if you recall, he told Chiara he definitely was going to throw it this week, and maybe in the future.

B) As far as Dani, she really shouldn't throw it until Roddy is out, if she is. However, I really don't think she should throw it this week. But, then it makes her vulnerable the next week.

C) Lisa stated tonight that she really doesn't intend to go for HOH b/c she wants Dani to get it.

Honestly, I think many of them want to avoid it because it makes you vulnerable the next week; as the weeks come to a close, certain HOH's are more important.

edited to add...

Lastly, Will DID employ this strategy as well. He admitted throwing HOH's left and right. Why is he admired for it, and Dani vilified? He threw HOH so others did his dirty work too.

Frankly, they're all doing it. Wanting the other HG's to do their dirty work so they don't have to be the villian. So, I don't think it's fair to knock Dani for wanting to throw HOH when the others are employing similar strategy.

However, if she gets put up and in turn evicted, well, that's how the ball bounces as they say.

It's funny, at this point in time, I just have no favorite anymore. First I liked Mar (and we all know why that's not so anymore), then it was the Ja and Dani alliance, but that's changed too. So, I really have no one I want to win over the others at this point.

I will say this, despite my objections to Roddy's strategy and tactics, I feel he is the BEST player in there. He's a much more advanced and better player than all of the other HG's....combined.

Fabnsab

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 10:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My feelings won't turn in favor of Roddy because he keeps claiming he is an honest, upfront HG and makes them all feel guilty for not believing in him. Will was harmless whereas Roddy abuses people verbally with his accusations and he tears them down.I will NEVER want him to win but I am wanting others to win less.

Annitar

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 10:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think I'm going to wait and see if Dani tells Lisa the same thing. I think she may have realized she can't totally invest in Jason anymore and she may be blowing smoke at him.

I find it hard to believe that she is stupid enough to risk Roddy getting HOH. The only way I see her throwing it is AFTER Roddy has already lost it. Then I can see her letting someone else take. However, I think that's still a mistake on her part... she'd be no better than Roddy. She says she hates how he gets other people to do his dirty work, well she'd be doing the same thing. She's pretty close to that already.

If she throws it, I do hope Roddy wins and nominates her! It would serve her right!

Krossd

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 10:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani not going for HOH is as strategic for her as it has been for anyone else. I've heard Ja and Dani talk several times at various points, and see it was, is and has been (at most points) part of THEIR joint strategy. Jason even talked tonight (and before) about going up on the block, knowing Dani is out there to vote.... It's okay not to like someone but don't let that blind you to all.

Wendo

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 11:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Annitar said, "However, I think that's still a mistake on her part... she'd be no better than Roddy. She says she hates how he gets other people to do his dirty work, well she'd be doing the same thing. She's pretty close to that already."

Her complaints about Roddy are part of her strategy. In fact, I don't think she really has a problem with Roddy having other people do his dirty work. She says that to stir the other HG up about it. I don't believe for a minute that she really thinks Roddy is the devil, believes that others doing the dirty work is bad, nor even objects to most of his strategy.

In fact, I heard both Ja and Dani say the only thing they object about Roddy's strategy is his manipulation of people's feelings and emotions. And, I do believe that's the only thing they don't dig. (And, that's what I don't dig about his strategy either. But, hey, it's workin' ain't it! LOL!)

It will certainly be interesting to see who wins HOH and who gets nominated. If Dani gets nommed, I hope it's against Roddy, that's the only scenario where I think she has a chance. (And, it assumes PoV does not get used.)

Gouraphik

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 11:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
While I doubt that Danielle will actively try to get HOH (partially due to her Chicken Hawkness), I can see a legitimate reason for her not to want the title.

If she gets HOH, and noms Roddy, who will she put up beside him? Probably Marcellas or Amy. That would give Roddy the ammo he needs to mess her up, but good.

Roddy would start up the Reality Distortion Field and convince Marcellas & Amy that Danielle is up to no good. Actually, it wouldn't be that much of a reality distortion this time, because it would be obvious.

Roddy could make the case that if he goes, Jason or Lisa would put them both up and have one of them go for sure. However, if he stays, Danielle could pay for her crimes. What would need to happen in this case is that either Marcellas or Amy (preferably whoever's not on the block) saves Roddy if they win the Veto. Then, Danielle would be forced to toss up Jason or Lisa (probably Lisa) and the Roddy/Amy or Roddy/Marcellas partnership could vote them out 2-1.

Not to mention, Danielle would be vulnerable the following week, so Roddy/Marcellas/Amy could go after her with a vengeance. The vote would either be unanimous or tie out, leaving the HOH to break it and vote her out (if R/M/A has HOH in their possession).

Of course, Roddy could still get Danielle by using Marcellas or Amy as a proxy (if they get HOH), and have her voted out as long as her team's hands are tied (meaning Jason or Lisa would accompany her on the block). They'd have to secure the Veto as well in order to make sure that their plans aren't foiled, but that's a no-brainer.

Danielle's in trouble either way. To be honest, Roddy is equally in trouble, but since his powers of persuasion are of a higher caliber than Danielle's, I think it's fair to say that he has the advantage.

Let the new proxy war commence. :)

Crossfire

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 11:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I must say, I personally find this to be quite interesting. I am looking forward to seeing how this ends up playing out.