Cassandra | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 06:58 pm     Amy believes Chiara was completely played by Roddy (like we didn't know) and now wants to apologize for the things she said about her. If Amy only knew what all was said about her she wouldn't be so sorry. I wish she would wake up and see how they are all playing her. |
Zachsmom | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:03 pm     I think that just shows what a big person Amy is..she KNOWS Chiara didn't like her..but she doesn't like what she (AMY) did and said.. that to me shows a mature adult..something the other HGs can learn from.. too bad they won't.. |
Costacat | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:03 pm     Actually, Cassandra, I agree Amy should apologize. She said some pretty mean things about Chiara. Of course, I also think all the HGs need a turn at the apology table, but that's a subject for a whole 'nother day. I think Amy wanting to apologize shows that she does think about other people. |
Sunlit | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:04 pm     Amy didn't like Chiara as a person. That had little to do with Roddy, though it helped that Amy disliked the girl whose boyfriend she wanted to steal. She's feeling a sisterhood with Chiara because they were both played. Does she still think Chi is a wh*re and trash? I'd say that underneath all the sorrow she feels at stealing a lousy boyfriend, she still would react to Chiara in the same way. |
Theo17 | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:06 pm     kiki called amy a fing and a fing c*nt so I think that went both ways. That show really did show roddy trying his best to seduce amy. I'm shocked she woke up. |
Gina8642 | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:06 pm     I think Amy and Chiara both owe each other appologies. They both said really nasty things about each other. However, I don't think they can blame it all on Roddy. Yes, he's manipulated them both, but they need to take responsibilities for their own actions. |
Cameltoes | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:07 pm     All of them have said bad things or participated in negative discussions about one another (to varying degrees). I think Amy wants to apologize to Chiara because she empathizes with her now. She feels she has been played by Roddy and Chiara was similarly played by him. She thinks she blamed Chiara for everything and gave Roddy a free pass (which is true) and regrets that. I'm sure she realizes that Chiara has said as many nasty things about her as she has said about Chiara but right now, that's besides the point. |
Goddessatlaw | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:16 pm     Chiara was also brutally effective in separating Amy from the pack before she was voted out. Roddy was not permitted to speak with Amy because of Chiara's freakouts, she poisoned Lisa's attitude toward Amy so that Lisa never really ventured near her either, and Eric was caught up in the middle of the same crap. Chiara would run to Lisa and send her after Eric anytime she spied Eric trying to strike up a conversation. All of this because Chiara was insanely jealous about Roddy - a man she'd met two weeks prior or so. Both Eric and Roddy said before Chiara went nuts on the subject that they would be attracted to Amy. Amy, however, was voted out of the house following Roddy's speech about how she never let anyone get to know her. Now how does that work? Chiara makes it impossible for 3 other people besides herself to approach a normal conversation with Amy for fear Chiara would throw a fit (fit is a minor word for it). Chiara orchestrated the ostracisization of Amy, and that was one of the chief reasons Amy was voted out of the house. Amy had every right to go after Chiara the minute she reentered the house - and not for reasons of wanting Roddy (I thought those comments on tonights show were a bit unfair). Chiara went well out of her way to make Amy's first stay in the house miserable. If I were Amy, I'd have done worse and I wouldn't be apologizing for it now. |
Aerojunki | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:23 pm     Theo.. I agree with you..BUT, the girl has not woke up, she is saving her a@@ |
Aerojunki | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:30 pm     Godd..That is the way I see it also!
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Seamonkey | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:38 pm     Strongly agree, goddess. Seems like all of them (well, not Jason, not that I've heard) have decided that roddy is to blame for just about any bad behavior. Amy does feel some guilt over some of her remarks, but you can bet that there will be no apologies from Chiara.. in fact my guess is that Chiara will NOT be pleased to hear that Dani, Marcellas, Lisa and Amy consider that Roddy played her. She's already set up her denial.. like saying that she and Roddy developed a friendship, no romance, even though she had been naming their children.. Amy tends to accept guilt and over apologize, but the rest of them could do some of their own soul-searching, IMO. |
Goddessatlaw | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:43 pm     Seamonkey, my guess is Chiara is out trying to climb the BB3 wall after seeing that segment on Amy and Roddy tonight. I laughed out loud. Short of a true makeout session, that had to be Chiara's worst nightmare come true. For sheer entertainment purposes, I kind of hope she IS the one waiting for him when he visits Julie's cabin. |
Webkitty | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:49 pm     Seamonkey and Goddess, I agree. Amy really doesn't have too much to apologize for. I think its nice that she wants to, but I don't think she sees the BIG picture yet. Probably won't until this whole thing is over. It's too bad that first Chiara, now Danielle is keeping Amy and Lisa from interacting more. I think the two of them could have really hit it off this summer and had a good time in the house. And I don't think Lisa would have been such a back-stabbing freakish friend to Amy that Marc has been. |
Azriel | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:49 pm     I don't think Roddy is playing Amy. I think Amy is believing all of the 'he is the devil' talk in the house. I can't wait for Amy to get out of that screwed up house and talk to friends and family that really love her and care about her. |
Bizee | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 07:57 pm     Who knows that Chiara is still waiting? I posted before she was voted out that I hoped her brother and family would open her eyes to what had happened to her while in the house. (the mind screwing) and flat out being played. She may be back in NY horrified by the whole experience for all we know. Would love it if C was in Julies cabin, takes her wooby and leaves. |
Sam222 | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:04 pm     I think that Amy does owe Chiara an apology and before everyone argues with me I also think Chiara owes her one too. I think that they were equally wrong and both said some vile things about the other. My hope (one unfortunately I don't think will happen) is that on the final show they bond a little-I don't think they will ever be friends they are too different-but I do hope that they can bond some and freeze out Roddy. Give them a little alcohol and you never know, they had some nice interactions when they were a little buzzed. |
Wendo | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 08:11 pm     Webkitty, How is Dani keeping Amy from Lisa? I haven't seen that at all. Lisa has commented several times in the DR that she has gotten closer to Amy and really enjoys her company. If what you said were true, how could Lisa make such statements? |
Sheila494 | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:12 pm     amy owes chiara nothing. |
Jaysgal | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:14 pm     Why are some of you blaming Chiara 100% for some of the ill-formed relationships Amy has with others? I reject the proposition that Chiara is responsible for Lisa's distant relationship with Amy. We seem to have forgotten when Chiara tried to make amends and do a send off party for Amy. What did Lisa do? Lisa discouraged Chiara from doing it and futher ignited Chiara's sour relationship with Amy. Lisa expressed her reluctance to be a party to such plan and then fed Chiara with mean comments Amy said in her good-bye speech to Tonya. Correct me if I'm mistaken. Why is Lisa portrayed as some absolutely innocent person? Amy never knew of this, so I cannot fault her for befriending Lisa. But Lisa herself and others seem to have forgotten her role in the Chiara/Amy rivalry. Lisa should be held responsible on her part. Without a doubt, Amy, Chiara and Lisa have been just as guilty as the other on the whole subject of contempt. |
Sam222 | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:53 pm     Jaysgal, I agree with your post and while I am kind of rooting for Lisa I am amazed how she seems to have been able to escape with no taint on her. During the whole week when the Amy/Chiara drama over Roddy errupted I watched the feeds a whole lot. I saw Lisa egging Chiara on to bad mouth Amy, in fact she was the first person I ever heard call Amy white trash. She said a lot of bad stuff but through revisionist history she now claims it disgusted her and she would always walk away. I also recall the day that Eric was in the DR for a long time and Lisa didn't know that and she was thinking he was in the HOH with Amy trying to seduce him. I really think that they all share blame in this situation. |
Groucho | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 11:09 pm     Lisa's a follower in a lot of ways. Chiara started the anti-Amy sentiment and Lisa went right along with it. Once she was outside of Chiara's orbit, she stopped the anti-Amy thing. I'm not excusing Lisa's early behavior in any way, but I do think it's mitigated a bit by the fact that she seems to be genuinely friendly to Amy now. |
Duchess | Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 11:35 pm     You hit the nail on the head Groucho. Lisa is a follower and easily swayed, which isn't such a bad thing in this situation since it signifies that she isn't close minded. I truly think this is what made her advance in the game but not necessarily shine because of her convictions.. |