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Lostintheglades

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 10:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Had to put my 2 cents in here...for what it's worth. Since we're all trying to come up scenarios, here's mine.

While Amy was being sequestered. She learned that they are holding auditions for the re-make of "Gone With the Wind". Since she is locked up in a house full of crazy people she has decided to use her unknowing housemates to assist her in her audition.
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As Scarlet, she will do anything to win the heart of her man Ashly (Roddy)

Rhett Butler(Marc) politely tells her "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn. You're not playing the game."

As Scarlet cries, Ashly (Roddy) comforts her. Alas, she knows she can never have his heart as it belongs to Satan and Rhett's love has turned
cold.

Scarlet has no choice but to make them all sweat it out by not telling anyone what her plans are. Even Pitty Pat and Melony are overcome with fear of losing control of their beloved plantation.

Scarlet is now aware that she has no one to count on but herself and is playing them all for as she sees it, either way her days are numbered so she grabs a bag of cheese.

"After all, tomorrow is another day" "Right Jason??"

Kahluacream

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 10:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Spunky, while certainly I may have missed something, I spot-read through much of the thread and what I've surmised is that Roddy put her under his spell again last night and has her waffling on the veto vote. Did something bigger than that happen?

I still can't believe Lisa, Danielle, Marcellas, and Jason all went to bed and knowingly left the two of them alone in the hammock. Sheesh. Knowing how gullible she is, they should each take shifts hanging with her every minute of the day until the veto vote.

Spunky

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, something big did happen, she practically told him everything she agreed on with the others, that she wasn't going to use the POV and she has a speech prepared,this gave him an opportunity to work her, instead of Amy working him, telling her the others want her out,that she doesn't stand a chance, etc. (But she does!!)
So, it's up to Amy to decide what to do knowing Roddy wants her to use the veto but Roddy would not have used it had he had the POV. (She did ask him and he was evasive).
So, he did manage to work her once more but will see if she really fell for it..

P.S. Danielle and the others did not have to worry about the two being together because Amy told them she was going to "play him a bit...".

Allietex

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Isn't it interesting that Jason could not put Roddy up because he had given his word. Dani kept throwing HOH because she had given Roddy her word not to nominate him. Their word means so much to them but they are quite willing for Amy to break her word to help them out. Sort of a double standard isn't it?

And saying that I hope Amy does not veto Roddy and nails him to the wall with her speech. I think the way he has treated her negates anything she might owe him. Besides she has already saved him once when everyone wanted him out. I think they are more that even.

I don't really have a problem with people breaking their word if it is in the peramerters of the game. I do have a problem with the bashing people behind their backs and the tactics Roddy uses. I think they have been out of bounds of the game.

I don't like any of the remaining house guests much but I would have to say Jason and Amy have been the least offensive. Jason because while he has participated in some mild bashing it has not been vicious.

Amy because I see her as a mirrow of whomever is doing the talking. I have a feeling that if Marcellas had thought Gerry a prince of a fellow, Amy would have too. She reacts to situations and lashes out in anger not viciousness. Not much of a recommendation true, but it is all I can come up with.

Dani, Marc, and Amy have all three been vicious in their behind the back bashing and have all instigated it themselves at one time or the other.

Roddy, while not doing much bashing has played everyone against each other in a particularly nasty way and engaged in some very questionable emotional abuse. And yes I do know about emotional abuse and emotional blackmail. I have been a victim. Roddy's is more subtle than some, but I see it clearly.

Katlady53

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry if this is a clueless question (I've just come out of lurkdom), but what deal was Roddy telling Amy about last night when he said she'd be going back on her word if she didn't use POV on him?

Battlestar

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
--during the BOX Pov competition that FDanielle won, Amy got Roddy's box by promising that she would veto him if she ever won POV and he was up

That was when Marchellas was HOH for the 1st time

Jan

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
katlady welcome out of lurkdom. A few weeks ago the veto competition involved "buying" boxes from each other ..one had the veto key in it.

They had to trade things..not money. Amy "bought" Roddy's box with the promise that if he was ever up and she had veto power, she would veto him off.

Of course, at the time they did not talk about the parameters of this promise..I doubt she envisioned that she would be up against him and vetoing him out would force her eviction.

Spunky

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It's incredible how everybody "owes him" and he keeps reminding them about it...

I liked when Marcellas insisted he didn't owe him anything...I'm sure he was insisting only because he simply forgot! How can you blame him, I can't keep up with all their promises!

Amy could just find an excuse for not honoring that promise, say, "that was then, before I knew how you were playing me...". Why not..

Ministryoftruth

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"Amy could just find an excuse for not honoring that promise, say, "that was then, before I knew how you were playing me...". Why not.. " - Spunky

Or how about, "That was before you evicted me . . . this is a whole new game"?

Theo17

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
spunky so far he has had deals with eric, josh, kiki, gerry, danni, jason, marcy and now amy. I'm guessing before its all said and done he will claim a deal with Julie.
Roddy bullied amy out of the house over a month ago. In my mind any deal prior left when he kicked her out.

Spunky

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Certainly...
anything is better than "yes, I'm breaking that promise because I'm a bad girl...".

And what I really don't want to hear is"

"I promised Roddy I would use the veto to save him and I have no choice but to honor it...."

Watch Danielle's eyes pop up!!

Ministryoftruth

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Theo - a deal with Julie!

I'm with you. Any deals before HE got her evicted are off. I wonder if Roddy will appreciate the irony of being evicted unanimously against Amy?

Woodpecke®

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Any deal to veto the guy you are nominated with is null and void. She is not going to save Smarmy.

Hawaiiandew

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 12:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Exactly Ministry!
I was thinking the same thing.
Amy is always saying she is now houseguest #13, The houseguest that made the deal with Roddy was one of the original 12 houseguests. As far as I am concerned she comes back in the house with a clean slate.
Plus, this is a game!

Onlyhuman

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 12:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, to look at the question rationally...will Amy use the POV? Hmmmm...there are so many conflicting things going on in her mind.

1) She made a promise to Roddy and doesn't want to look like a liar.

2) She likes having Roddy in the house (she said last night she didn't want to be there without him)

3) She doesn't want Roddy to be mad at her for NOT using it.

4) She knows Roddy has been playing/manipulating her and doesn't want to look like a fool.

5) She made a promise to the others to NOT use the veto.

6) She doesn't want the others to hate her.

7) She knows she will go if she saves Roddy, she knows he is gone if she doesn't.

8) She knows that she has NO alliance and that even if she stays this week, she is the target for next week.

Right now, she is an animal scrambling to find a way out of this trap without having to gnaw off a limb. The sad thing is, she is in a position of having to either be manipulated by Roddy or by the anti-Roddy faction. They all hate her, they all want her gone, but they all want her to do their bidding first and they don't care what happens to her after that.

Ultimately, I think #6 will have the strongest influence upon her. It's why she nominated Roddy against Chiara in the first place. This is not to say it will be easy for her.

Cousin_Jake

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 12:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought that the deal Amy was referring to happened during the bartering for POV and she said to Roddy "If you give me your box I promise to remove you if you're ever up for eviction and I win the POV" Did this really happen or am I just imagining that it did?

Maris

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 12:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That was the deal Cousin. That is why Roddy is now saying to her that she will show herself as a liar to the whole house.

Spunky

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 12:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
solutions for Onlyhuman's points:

1) She made a promise to Roddy and doesn't want to look like a liar.
ACKNOWLEDGE THE PROMISE AND STATE IT'S OBSOLETE

2) She likes having Roddy in the house (she said last night she didn't want to be there without him)
IT'S EITHER ME OR YOU, I'D RATHER BE ME...

3) She doesn't want Roddy to be mad at her for NOT using it.
YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE MAD AT ME, BUT THIS IS JUST A GAME..

4) She knows Roddy has been playing/manipulating her and doesn't want to look like a fool.
YES, YOU DID FOOL ME BUT I SAW THE LIGHT JUST ON TIME

5) She made a promise to the others to NOT use the veto.
I'M NOT USING THE VETO BECAUSE OF MY PROMISE BUT BECAUSE I BELIEVE I HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE

6) She doesn't want the others to hate her.
I ALREADY KNOW YOU ALL HATE ME, BUT I'M GROWING UP

7) She knows she will go if she saves Roddy, she knows he is gone if she doesn't.
NO, I STILL HAVE A CHANCE AND I WON'T HAVE ANYONE TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ME

8) She knows that she has NO alliance and that even if she stays this week, she is the target for next week.
YES, I MAY BE A TARGET NEXT WEEK AND EVICTED BUT I STILL HAVE THAT ONE CHANCE LEFT!!

Simple as that...

Maris

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 12:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My Solutions:

1) She made a promise to Roddy and doesn't want to look ike a liar. I FIND MYSELF IN THE SAME DILEMMA AS JASON AND DANNI, I HAVE MADE A PROMISE TO RODDY THAT I MUST KEEP BECAUSE MY WORD IS GOLD

2) She likes having Roddy in the house (she said last night she didn't want to be there without him) SINCE MY ASS IS GRASS THIS WEEK OR NEXT, I WANT TO KEEP YOU AROUND AS MY BOYTOY AND SHARE YOU WITH MY BEST FRIEND MARCELLAS.

3) She doesn't want Roddy to be mad at her for NOT using it. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW HOW AWESOME I AM AND WHAT A SOFTEE I AM THAT I AM GOING TO VETO YOUR NOMINATION. I REALIZE THAT THIS COULD HURT ME BUT I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT IS WHAT I HAVE TO DO.

4) She knows Roddy has been playing/manipulating her and doesn't want to look like a fool. RODDY HAS BEEN PLAYING ME TO MY FACE SINCE I HAVE BEEN IN THIS HOUSE BUT I WOULD RATHER LOOK AT MY ENEMY IN THE FACE THAN WONDER WHAT HE IS SAYING BEHIND MY BACK....SMILE AT DANNI AND MARCELLAS.

5) She made a promise to the others to NOT use the veto. I MADE A PROMISE TO YOU NOT TO USE THE VETO BUT THAT WAS BEFORE THE DIARY ROOM TOLD ME THAT YOU TOLD EVERYONE I WAS SHOWING MY BUSINESS OFF TO RODDY AND THAT I HAD TO GO NEXT WEEK.

6) She doesn't want the others to hate her. I DONT WANT YOU TO HATE ME BUT APPARENTLY IT IS TOO LATE FOR THAT NOW, ISNT IT SUGARS

7) She knows she will go if she saves Roddy, she knows he is gone if she doesn't. FLIPPING TWO HEADED COIN

8) She knows that she has NO alliance and that even if she stays this week, she is the target for next week. I MAY AS WELL HAVE FUN AND I AM GOING HOME TO MY BUCKY SO I CAN WATCH YOU ON THE FEEDS TEAR EACH OTHER APART.

Alaginger

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 12:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Come On Amy........Veto Roddy!!! Then win HOH next week and really shake up the house.......

Demeter

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 12:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Amy does veto Roddy, she will not be there next week to win HOH.

Maris

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 12:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If she vetoes Roddy she is a goner this week. I still want her to use the veto but she will be gone for sure. Now her eviction speech.........

Spunky

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 12:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ala..
if she vetoes Roddy she's out..
If Marcellas puts Lisa up I can see Roddy voting to evict Lisa (he can't possibly evict Amy!!!) but Amy would still be gone with Jason and Danielle's votes...

Katlady53

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 12:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Do you all think Amy is totally cognizant of the fact that she has no alliances and that everyone is bashing her now?

Bailey

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 12:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have to jump off the Roddy-support-bandwagon and say if he expects Amy to use the POV to save him knowing it'll mean she'll be going instead is outrageous to me! Unless she truly wants to go home this week, she would be nuts to save Roddy. I feel bad that she's under so much pressure since being nominated by her best friend. The poor girl has nobody in that house she can turn to.. I would hate to be in her position this week.