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Seanflynn

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 08:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Here's the J/L/D trump card vs. R w/ A
Each of the 3 tells Amy that if she uses the veto, the 2 of them not nominated in Roddy's place vote out Amy
They may need to convey that
If Amy still decides to use the veto, it would be because overnight she has fallen in love with Roddy, and doesn't care if she wins or stays in the house

C1mag

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
She takes him off the block she will not be laughing when she walks out the door on Thursday. She's the furthest thing from Scarlet Ohara. She's a crybaby and the first time Marcellus unleashes on her for using the veto and she will be toast. I believe this is the only reason she will may not veto. She couldn't handle the heat that house would produce if she tried to go out with a bang! She should accept whatever place they decide to get rid of her. She shouldn't be there anyway. It was a fluke with that twist. She doesn't deserve the money.
Yep I'm pissed at her for pulling this crap. This is a freakin game and she refuses to play it.

Dee723

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Who says she shouldn't be there? Obviously the producers think she should. We're not in control of this game and we don't make the rules. She's been on the block twice now since coming back, I think she's more than paid her dues for being allowed to come back into that house.

Tracy

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I sure wish Lisa would tell Amy what Roddy said to her last night (wondering what would have happened if he had met Lisa before Eric). Bet that might snap Miss Amy back to reality.

Dee723

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh and if you want to blame someone for screwing up things take a good hard look at Danielle. SHE is the one who told Jason and Lisa to switch their vote to Chiara two weeks ago and not Roddy. and what about Jason who fell for the master manipulator good and hard? The hamsters can't very well get angry with Amy for not being willing to do something they didn't have the guts to do themselves

Spunky

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What I didn't like about Roddy is telling her she has no chance whatsoever, that she will be out next week anyway. That's mean!!! For heavens'sake she could win HOH!! Why take that chance away from her but convincing her to use the veto on him??
All Amy needs is to remember she does have a chance and no one should take that away from her, it should be her own decision and not because someone played with her mind.
Roddy doesn't realize that he's the one will look bad...

Tracy

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes and Dani did that for Amy. Amy also promised Dani that she would have no problem voting Roddy out after she got rid of Chiara.

Dee723

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Right Tracy but that was poor game playing. What would Amy have done about it anyway if they'd followed through and gotten rid of him? That whole scenario didn't make sense. Amy's made 2 promises here. The first one was to Roddy when she got his box in that POV game and promised to veto him if she ever got the POV, the second was to Dani when she promised to get rid of him. It'll be interesting to see which promise she keeps and why.

C1mag

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dee she's paid NOTHING!! last week she was the easy decoy and LOVED the attention. This week she told Marcellus it was ok to put her up if he wanted. She has even made a mockery of her second chance by telling everyone once again she is not there to play the game or win the money. Seems as if this twist didn't produce a hungry competitor at all yet you think she should be there! Come on.. This is a game not a freakin soap opera.

All she has said is that she would help get rid of Roddy and yet she is still not producing the goods. YOU think she should be there as a viewer and I don't. I think it's a twist that has failed miserably. What about the others that don't get a second chance in the game once they are evicted? Seem a little unfair? It sure does to this viewer. She's an idiot and proves it every night she goes hanging all over that man while he makes her look like a complete jackass while the rest of the house just wants to play the game. How much more STUPID can she look? This is the same dude that humiliated her when he nominated her and then sealed it with a unanimous eviction. She could care less! She's and Idiot! No matter what she does with this veto she has got to go! She has proved to be of no use in this game.

Seanflynn

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dee, any rational person would understand dropping the commitment to Roddy re POV if the person who made the commitment also was nominated and would be evicted instead. That's a no-brainer.

Tracy

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It certainly was poor game playing on Dani's part. Didn't she say something afterwards to the effect that that was the 1st time she went with her heart and not her head. Dani may well live to regret that decision the most of any she made in the game.

Spunky

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
C1,
I hope the mods won't get too mad...

I would not be so hasty as to call Amy all that you said about her, but would definitely say the same if she uses the veto.
I would wait to see what she does tomorrow.

Cameltoes

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Not only that Sean, but Roddy nominated her and orchestrated her eviction. I'm sorry but if that was me, I would never even have considered the deal to still be valid upon my return. New game. New rules. She made the deal before she realized 1)He wanted her out of the house and 2)He is one of two people who did not vote her back in. She should simply say that if he had his way, she wouldn't even be in the house so the POV promise is meaningless.

C1mag

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks spunky :) You know my biggest beef as a die hard fan is seeing how lame these people are. It amazes this viewer how we can see through all of them and yet they just keep bumping into obvious walls standing right in front of them. It makes ya wanna SCREAM! But I still dig the show. I'm just real disappointed in Amy right now.

Tracy

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I wish the HG would get up and start talking. Might give us some insight into what is going on in Amy's head.

Jaysgal

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Technically, Amy's promise to Danielle to get rid of Roddy in another event is void. It is void because Amy said it particularly to lure Danielle to keep the promise Danielle had already made. In other words, Danielle intended to breach the contract and Amy resorted to appeasing Danielle for this not to happen.

It is similar to what Amy is doing now. If Roddy had promised her that no matter who was up, he would save her if she vetoed him, then technically he would not have to live up to his words. Why? Because Amy owed him one without any strings attached (i.e., the promise she made when she got his box). Hence, his statement would be to lure her, so as not to breach the contract she had with him. She is doing just what Danielle did. They make a promise and then when it comes time to keep the promise, they hold a gun to the promisee's head and force the promisee to make another promise for them (the promisors) to keep their promise that had no strings attached.

C1mag

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
So jay what do you call the promise she made to Dani, Marc, Jason and Lisa just yesterday afternoon that she would not use the veto on him while she was calling him filthy names? No one strong armed her in that decision. She came to them an offered the safety. Please explain how she gets out of that current promise. They all knew about her pov promise to him from way back and she said to them, "screw that" No one forced her into this current promise. She announced it all on her own. She went as far as to say, "I give you my word"... She did not ask for anything in return. It probably was a mistake but as she says, she isn't there for the money so why should she care when she goes? Just do what she elected to tell the house that she would do which was not veto Roddy and then she can pack her bags after he is gone and go. let those that want to play the game continue on.

Demeter

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I liked the analogy that Amy used last night when she said the constitution was designed to adapt to the times, that sometimes the rules change and old laws become antiquated.

Roddy nominated Amy for eviction and he was successful in having her evicted. That leaves any prior deal null and void. When she came back into the house, it was a new game.

I hope Amy is not swayed to use the veto. I watched Roddy and Amy's discussion this morning and Roddy's push to get her to use the veto was sickening based on his own premises of how it looks and how selfish she would be not to use it.
His pressuring her to use it is just as selfish.

Spunky

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I wonder if they don't get confused with all their promises... I can't even keep up with that...

I would tell them "the heck with the promises, things change and promises don't mean a thing to me. Each one of us is breaking them anyway, so let's drop the promises crap.. Do what you have to do, we're all doomed anyway but for the winner, and that it's not even up to us but to those we all betrayed anyway...".

Who would have the guts to speak like that in the house but Spunky...

Ministryoftruth

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok C1mag, stop holding back . . . tell us what you really think about Amy! LOL

Ministryoftruth

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Spunky, isn't that the strategy that worked for Will last year? You may be onto something.

Jaysgal

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag, she's supposed to follow through with her promise to Roddy. But being one of free will, she may not. It's just that she would have committed a dishonourable act. Whether or not that matters to her about breaching the contract that is still valid is up to her. Nonetheless, it is still a valid contract and takes precedence over her recent promise to Danielle, Marcellas and Jason. And since the latter was made without any debt to the other parties involved, she can evoke the promise she made to Roddy and how it was a contract because she got his box in exchange. It's just up to her if she does care about honour and credibility.

C1mag

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ministry..LMAO!! Yes I'm pissed off at her this morning! I really thought I was gonna get to have my " Roddy is finally getting kicked out party" and she goes and makes me think he might stay. I wanna strangle that fluff head for doing this! Other than that... IT'S A GREAT DAY

Dee723

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I disagree that she does not want to play the game and I think she IS playing the game the way she wants to. Maybe it doesn't follow everyone else's agenda but she IS playing. She may say that she just wants to have fun, but if that were truly the case she'd have pushed the panic button right after Marcellas made that horrid speech when he nominated her. So I think she DOES care about being there. She also told Roddy last night that if she vetoed him it put her in jeopardy. Does that sound like someone who doesn't care if she's there or not? All this ranting about her not deserving to be there sounds sooo much like the fit Chiara threw after she got back in the house. The point is that she's there, and there is nothing we can do about it except watch.

Dee723

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 10:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jay, I think the fact that he kicked her out after that promise, and she was evicted, plus he tried to get her to go last week too would make that promise null and void in my mind. Actually in this game these people should expect that no one keeps their word. They all lie.