Changes in attitude
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Woofy | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 04:39 pm     Last year, those who smoked cigarettes were called every name in the book by those who didn't smoke. Shannon of course being the worsed namecaller even though she got drunk one night and they got her to smoke in the hot-tub. This year, nobody has said anything negative about all the cigarsmoking. Yes, cigarsmoking was "trendy" a few years ago ... and hell, I'm a cigarsmoker ... but they're just as dangerous as cigarettes (even moreso in some cases) and the 2nd hand smoke is as (or more) offensive to non-smokers. Why do you think it has been so accepted? Perhaps cuz good ol' Roddy brought the cigars into the house? |
Curlyq | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 04:57 pm     Maybe because some people see it as more trendy as you said. It does seem a lot more dangerous though. Don't cigarettes have filters while cigars don't? I'm not sure on that one since I've never smoked anything myself. Plus, last year the self-proclaimed cool group were the non-smokers. This year the "beautiful people" are smoking, so I guess that makes it cool in their eyes. I can't imagine why, though. They do smell just as bad and I always associate them more with Archie Bunker and Oscar Madison types rather than the social elite. No offense meant to you, Woofy. Also, I think it's seen differently because they're not smoking them every 5 minutes, and therefore don't appear to be hooked. In this kind of game people are looking for your weaknesses, and having an addiction can make you look weak in their eyes. Just look at how they talk about Amy and the alcohol. |
Kristylovesbb | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 04:57 pm     They think it is still "trendy" and shick, I guess, but I can imagine they probably talk trash about cigarette smokers. We all know how they have the audacity to think that what they do is ok, but what someone else does is not. |
Bmh | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 05:01 pm     Not as many people smoke this year or as often as people did last year..I remember Monica and Nicole were heavy smokers last year..The only people I see smoking are basically Roddy with his cigars and thats really it..except for the occasionaly cig by any of the hg's..I dont like smokers either and I am glad at least this year they dont smoke for hours doing nothing |
Wcv63 | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 05:03 pm     <Inhale> Well Bmh, <puff, puff> I'm sorry you don't like <exhale, ahhhh> us smokers. I still like all you non-smokers.  |
Willow_Woman | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 05:05 pm     The smell of cigar smoke makes me very nauseated. I wonder if anyone else in the house feels the same but doesn't say anything because it's Roddy. Imagine if Gerry, heaven forbid, smoked them. |
Mellbell416 | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 05:05 pm     Yah - probably almost the whole cast of BB2 is going to get lung cancer just from those weeks of huffin' and puffin'. Just watching them made me want to spray every room with air freshener and slap nicotene pads on them! |
Willow_Woman | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 05:06 pm     Wcv, yick! Cough, cough, gasp! Put that thing out! ca ca cough |
Amac | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 05:08 pm     I remember when BB3 began a big deal was made over the statement that the producers would not be supplying any of the HGs with smokes once they ran out (and that Lori, for one, anticipating this, had brought something like 70 packs of cigarettes into the house with her). I joked at the time that nicotine withdrawl might occur (and not be a pretty sight)--something that has obviously not come to pass. |
Csnog | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 05:09 pm     The only HG that smoked cigarettes was Lori. The HG's are not allowed to smoke in the house. They never have been. |
Wcv63 | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 05:11 pm     Willow Woman...actually I go out of my way to be considerate of nonsmokers. I won't smoke around them and I take care to make sure that no one has to breathe my second hand smoke. Believe me, I think taking up smoking was THE STUPIDEST thing I have ever done in my life. Bar none. |
Zachsmom | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 05:12 pm     No Bmh..they just sit around and do nothing for hours.. I find it incredibly amusing how last year a lot of people said "Smokers..they don't do anything" and that was the reason why the HGs didn't perform..or why it was boring.."all they do is sit around and smoke" Here we have a houseful of non-smokers and have the same results..lol.. |
Zachsmom | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 05:14 pm     I do too Wvc..I also get on smokers who are offensive to non-smokers.. |
Willow_Woman | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 05:15 pm     Wcv63, I still love ya'! We used to live in N.C. where *nobody* in our tiny town *did not* smoke (except me). Whew! Actually, I smoked for about 15 years and then stopped. It's funny but sometimes when I smell cig. smoke I still get a craving, even after all these years. Cigar smoke, however, makes me run the other way. Makes my tummy quesy. |
Willow_Woman | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 05:18 pm     Hey, was that a double negative...nobody did not...I'd better give it up for the night.
Been out in the sun too long today--fried my brain. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 05:46 pm     Ya know....the cigars they are smoking these days are not Roddy's. When Amy came back in she brought cigars that she bought in Mexico. Apparently they are CUBAN CIGARS! There has been a couple of convos where they have alluded to that fact. Amy mentioning (as she smoked on one) the fact that there was an "embargo" on them. Roddy reminded her <in a funny sarcastic innuendo type way> "Of course, Big Brother would not have let you bring in anything that was ILLEGAL..." Amy said something about "don't ask, don't tell", that they didn't ask and she didn't tell. Roddy laughed and said "You just said that there was an EMBARGO and these are CIGARS....what else could you be talking about?" They all laughed. (Btw, the quotes above are actually paraphrased from what I remember of that convo I heard a few days ago) The thing is....I am sure that Amy broght back cigars that she bought in Mexico....where there is no embargo on Cuban cigars. It is illegal to bring them into the country no matter where you bought them, although it happens all the time. I think the fact that they have access to actual illegal, primo Cuban cigars right there on television makes the whole activity seem even MORE "cool" now. |
Earthmother | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 06:59 pm     Wvc..share that ashtray..I could care if someone doesn't like me for smoking, less judgemental people in my life. Boy I can't figure out how I have so many friends..I'm an overweight, older woman who smokes, washes undies in the kitchen sink, don't always wash my hands, look at younger men from time to time, and have a gay son, and I'm not a Christian...Good grief I should hate myself...lol |
Willow_Woman | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 07:04 pm     Earthmother lol!!! You guys are gonna have to stop with all this smoking talk. I'm starting to get a terrible craving. See, Roddy is even beginning to affect *me* now! That rat! Who knew his powers were so wide-spread??? |
Bmh | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 07:06 pm     LOL..Willow..me too I never want to take up smoking again..it was awful..dont tempt me! |
Woofy | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 07:06 pm     SanFranJoshFan, I don't believe they're still smokin' the Cubans ... I recognize the brand they're smoking and they're from Honduras ... also, since Amy is ... well, Amy ... my guess is that the cigars she purchased in Mexico were either counterfeit Cubans or cigars that haven't haid the temp and humidity maintained properly. As I said, I'm a cigarsmoker and have travelled all over Mexico ... the only time you get a "real" Cuban is if you know somebody socially that you trust. |
Allietex | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 07:09 pm     Probably one reason there is not more objection is that they don't smoke all the time. It is just once in awhile kind of as a lark. I suspect that if it was frequent enough to smell up the place Dani or Marc would be screaming to high heaven. Lord if Gerry had smoked cigars they would have been screaming about how disgusting it was and how Gerry alway stank of cigar smoke. |
Costacat | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 07:10 pm     LOL Earthmother! I'm right there with you on most of that (well, OK, I don't have a gay son -- or *any* son with two legs -- and I'm not overweight). But I'm 40-something, I wash my undies in the kitchen sink, I don't always wash my hands, I smoke, I am most definitely not a Christian, I *always* look at younger men! Back to the subject at hand. If Roddy was not so self-involved, he'd realize that cigar smoking is passe. Most cigar lounges have closed down in San Diego. I think the difference is that there was excessive cigarette smoking by a minority last year. This year, most all the HGs have puffed a bit on a cigar. And yes, Amy brought cigars back from Mexico. I don't recall if they were Cuban, but she did clearly say at one time that they were smoking the cigars she bought for her dad. |
Earthmother | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 07:18 pm     I thought there was a law in Ca. about smoking anything inside any establishment. Maybe that's why they closed down in San Diego. I was just in Las Vegas and there are very few areas where you can't smoke. I am very considerate though. It is also not restricted at all in Europe or Asia. OHHH I was on a bus in Greece and the smoke nearly killed me. Even smokers have problems with smoke. There was a time when pipes were popular but now it's still cigars. My son's friends have cigars after dinner..(out on the back deck, can't stand the smell of them either). I notice most of the young guys smoking those little thin cigars more than those big hankin' things Roddy smokes. |
Beegee | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 07:28 pm     Last year the HGs all ran outside the moment a meeting was over to light up, like they'd been climbing the walls during the meeting begin separated from their cigarettes for a half hour or so. And it separated groups. This year, the cigars seem more like an occasional diversion, typically shared late at night with some quality one-on-one. It's sort of the difference between having a glass of wine in the evening versus drinking out of a paper bag all day long. |
Wcv63 | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 07:30 pm     My dad used to smoke a pipe when I was a little girl. I loved the way it smelled and now I get nostalgic if I smell pipe tobacco. |
Hippyt | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 07:41 pm     I smoke cigarettes too. The smell of a cigar makes me sick to my stomach and gives me an instant headache. I thought it was so funny BB made such a big deal to let us all know they would not be re-supplying cigs to the HG's,then we find out nobody smokes!!!! (except Lori) I agree cigars are passe,so 4 years ago. And if they were lighting up around me,I'd be moving elsewhere.Cigarettes stink,Cigars Stink more! |
Pamy | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 08:04 pm     Earthmother...you're right, you can't smoke inside anywhere in California. You can't even smoke in some OUTSIDE places. They are even talking about banning people from smoking in their own apartment if the smoke can go out the window into the next apt!!!
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Willow_Woman | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 08:40 pm     Wow! Wonder if this will spread to the rest of the country? |
Reader234 | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:06 pm     and I thought I'd hear some Jimmy Buffet! Changes in attitude, changes in latitude?? anyone?? |
Paulyaceiii | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:30 pm     If we don't laugh, we will all go insane! |
Zachsmom | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:38 pm     Parrotheads Unite!!!! Love Changes in Attitude!!! I took off for a weekend last month Just to try and recall the whole year. All of the faces and all of the places, wonderin' where they all disappeared. I didn't ponder the question too long; I was hungrey and went out for a bite. Ran into a chum with a bottle of rum, and we wound up drinkin' all night. |
Kstme | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:46 pm     Wow! Smokers AND Buffet!! How cool is this?? <kstme grabbing glass of wine, lighting up and putting in "Songs You Know by Heart"> |
Twiggyish | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:52 pm     (nonsmoker here) but I'll go anywhere there's Jimmy Buffet playing. As far as the smoking goes, I agree about how they would have treated Gerry had he smoked. Cigars stink! |
Eden | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:10 pm     So ridiculous all this broohaha about smoking. So they pass around a cigar instead of a pipe or joint, so what? Most people don't inhale cigar smoke, they puff. I doubt the HGs have to fear mouth cancer from a few puffs on a cigar no matter where it comes from. If they don't like the smell they can leave the hot tub. As for cigar smoking being passe, how trendy must you be to see such a thing in that light? LIGHTEN up!(pun intended) |
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