Archive through September 01, 2002
TV ClubHouse: Archive: Will AMY use the POV ?? (renamed since she won it):
Archive through September 01, 2002
Battlestar | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 12:52 pm     I'm HOPING HOPING that Amy gets HOH next week and put of the two of the threesome (Lisa, Jason or Danielle) |
Theo17 | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:00 pm     Maris I explained myself to you on a previous thread. I think you took something I said as personal and it wasnt meant to be. Now I know you hope amy uses the pov but do you really think she should throw herself on the sword for roddy? Has roddy done anything for Amy? |
Avrey258 | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:00 pm     Since I don't have the live feeds (but do read the updates) and sorry if this question has been asked before, but was there any indication that Amy was playing Roddy last night or was she starting to cave? I could not get an idea from the live feeds that I read? |
Bailey | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:03 pm     Battlestar, I hope that too. But you know what will happen... one of them would win POV and force Amy to replace one of them with Mar.. and Mar will go as planned. Not that I would be unhappy to see Mar go.. but they have this all figured out. I only pray that BB throws another twist in that turns their pecking order upside down. It's our only HOPE! |
Maris | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:06 pm     It isnt about throwing herself on her sword for Roddy. I see it as giving me another great week of television and feeds. I see Amy who is being used and manipulated by everyone in that house. Roddy is doing it to her face and directly. Danni and Marcellas are running around behind her back saying she is exposing herself to Roddy for attention, everything she is doing is just another example of her selfishness and at the same time they are telling her that she cant use the veto because it is what they all want. Once she says she isnt using the veto they will trash her, be cruel to her, Marcellas will kick her out of the HOH room and then they will put her up next week unless she gets HOH. She will not get HOH unless BB wants her to and they have already given her one HOH. I would like to see Amy go this week and leave Roddy behind for no other reason than revenge on Danni and Marcellas. |
Onlyhuman | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:10 pm     Maris & Spunky...your solutions, while complete opposites, were both great I wasn't trying to give Amy excuses, I was just trying to lay out all the things that might be going through her head. For us, watching from the outside, it is quite easy to determine what her "correct" move should be, though even we don't agree. We shout "don't listen to him" and "he's only using you" from the safe cushion of our everyday lives. Of course, others shout "Marcellas says horrible things about you" and "Danielle wants you gone" when she's talking to them. But we take little time to try to understand her perspective. Inside the house, she is dealing with a lot of crap all at the same time with little or no support. Who does she trust...the person who tells her how wonderful she is but refuses to protect her or the people who tell her how horrible she is and also refuse to protect her. hmmm...when you look at it that way, she might just be crazy enough to do the ultimate act of unselfishness...or foolishness, depending upon whose side you are on. |
Ministryoftruth | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:10 pm     Avery - I went to bed early last night, so I'm wondering the same thing. Lisa and Dani were just in the bathroom asking if either had talked to Marc (about Amy?) yet. Both said no, then one of them, Lisa I think, said, "It doesn't look good". Then Dani said, "Oh well, plan B". |
Theo17 | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:15 pm     Marris it might not be about her throwing herself on her sword for you but if she saves roddy byt hurting herself isnt that what she is doing? When roddy was pushing to evict amy and not gerry to lisa and marcy last week was he doing that to amys face? I'm sorry that I disagree. Hopefully we can disagree as adults. I have seen roddy do many bad things game wise to amy and nothing good. The bottom line is nobody knows what will happen next week but she will have a 40% chance at 50k and a 20% chance at 500k. I think she should play for herself and take one week at a time. |
Maris | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:17 pm     Since I went to bed in the wee hours I saw Lisas conversation with Marcellas. She asked Marcellas to find out about Amy's conversation with Roddy and Marcellas refused. He said he wasnt giving her anymore attention and that is what Amy was looking for. If Amy wanted to tell them fine but nobody was to ask her or give her the attention. He said he was just going to tell her he was too tired to talk. I hope plan B is a threat, Amy doesnt like threats. That just might do it. |
Theo17 | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:19 pm     I like amy and I would hate to see her throw away her chance. Infact I wouldnt want to see anyone even roddy just throw away there chance because of somebody else. |
Groucho | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:21 pm     It's true, she basically has no friends or support in the house. So what should she do? I don't think any sort of grand gesture is going to help, whether it's vetoing Roddy or something else. It will come off looking petty and foolish, even if there's a lot of truth in it. The best way to get revenge on this nest of vipers that has treated her so badly is just do well in the game and to do so with pride and dignity. She's still got a shot to get further in the game. And even if she doesn't, she should go out with her head held high knowing that she conducted herself well and that she didn't stoop to their level. |
Ministryoftruth | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:22 pm     Thanks Maris . . . I'm somewhat less confused. Do we know for sure what Amy is planning to do? Anybody? |
Groucho | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:26 pm     We don't know for sure what she's going to do. My personal opinion is that in the talk with Roddy last night, she was giving as good as she got. I think she's still planning on not using the veto. But some other folks seem to have interpreted it differently, so who knows. |
Maris | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:26 pm     I would say I am 99% sure she will not use the veto based on her conversation with Roddy last night and Roddy knows it. |
Battlestar | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:27 pm     I know she isn't really aware how the others have turned on her and are trashing her---but it would be so sweet to see her use the POV with a speech on their, especially Danielle's nasty talk. That woman plants rumors and then lets others build it into bald-faced lies |
Bailey | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:28 pm     Maris, LOL.. I want her to use the POV too for our entertainment purposes. The absolute ulitmate would be if she uses the POV and then Roddy gets HOH next week. I think I'd have to quit my job and stayed glued to the feeds 24/7! <g> |
Onlyhuman | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:34 pm     MOT, we have NO IDEA what Amy will do. AMy may truly have no idea. Maris, that comment of Marcellas about not giving Amy any attention just cracks me up. Because, of course, AS HER FRIEND, he wouldn't want to do anything supportive of her, such as listening to her confusion or offering a shoulder to cry on, now would he??? grrrrr... When I hear things like that, I really just want Amy to say...I'm tired of being here with all of you self-righteous people who think I'm not good enough to play this game. Well, honestly, I think you are all a bunch of hypocrites who use your supposed "goodness" to manipulate, deceive and put down others who might question your assumed authority. I'm not going to veto Roddy because I want you to have to choose between keeping the person you call the "devil" behind his back and me, the person who sees you for who you really are. |
Wendo | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:39 pm     Aw geez... (over all the RodMindMelds on Amy) *kicks the rocks on the ground* Personally, I don't want Amy to use the veto. Primarily because by not using it, she won't get evicted, and she'll have a 1 in 4 chance of winning HOH. Just because she *might* be out next week doesn't mean she will definitely. She should be doing what's best for her and her alone. Not what's best for Roddy, and not what's best for the others. If you look at what is best for Amy, a game player, then not using the veto is the best course of action. Period. |
Maris | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:41 pm     Amy's veto speech: Welcome to the power of veto. This has been such a wonderful experience for me in the Big Brother house. The power of veto decision was a very difficult one for me and I looked to everything Danni and Marcellas, the two people I trust and admire most taught me. They taught me that keeping your word is above all else the single most important thing to do. Some of us have had to walk away from HOH competitions in order to keep promises, some have had to not nominate people that they would have wanted because they gave their word. I know that you all appreciate that a word given is a promise that must be kept. You will all remember that competition where I gave my word that I would veto Roddy's nomination and so I must use the veto. If this means I will be punished then so be it but I am comfortable with keeping true to my christian values. I just could not face my congregation at home if I broke my word to someone just as I am sure you, Danni and Jason can understand. I realize Roddy that you could not give me a promise of not voting for me because you have given a promise to Lisa and Danni and I understand. You must keep your promises to LISA or DANNI, whomever takes your place. |
Onlyhuman | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:41 pm     BTW, given Amy's background, I think she is very aware that people are saying negative things about her behind her back. In fact, she probably expects it. The thing about growing up in an environment where you are under constant criticism is that you develop a shell to hold back the pain, so people don't know how they have hurt you. You keep smiling to hide the fact that they have succeeded in their goal, because it is your only defense. Often people can also develop a more aggressive personality to attack first. Amy has a little of that, but more than anything, she will back down and withdraw, like she did with Tonya, when verbally battered. |
Deltadiva | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:42 pm     Well said Onlyhuman! That would make for good TV {sgrin} |
Ministryoftruth | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:42 pm     ditto what Wendo said. I think they should ALL play for themselves. |
Onlyhuman | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:49 pm     Wendo, I agree with you and that's why, no matter what I might say about WANTING to see her shake up the "good" people, I ultimately don't want her to use the veto, nor do I really think she will. But I can also see why it is not the cut and dried decision that many think it should be, since I waver on it myself occasionally and I haven't even had the force to the Roddy mind-meld directed at me personally. |
Allietex | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:54 pm     AMY HAS ALREADY SAVED RODDY ONCE. NO IT WASN'T BY THE POWER OF VETO, BUT SHE PUT HERSELF IN THE HOUSE DISFAVOR TO ACCOMPLISH IT. DOESN'T HE OWE HER AS MUCH AS SHE DOES HIM? Let's think about it. If Amy uses the veto to save Roddy just to spite the rest of the house, is she really accomplishing that? Unless Roddy wins HOH next week he is gone anyway. Just as he tells her she will be if she stays. So she would be throwing herself away for nothing. They would just shrug and say,"Oh well she is gone a week earlier that we planned." She should tell Roddy the same thing he told her. You're out next week anyway so why should it matter if you go this week? Leave with dignity. I have already saved you one week against the house's wishes. You owe me one. I think that fulfilled my obligation to you. If she does use the veto, she stays at least one more week. A lot can happen in a week. She might win HOH and earn one more week. Two weeks down the road some of these alliances may begin to break down. Who knows someone may decide to take her to the end as someone that can be beat. No one knows for sure that she will be gone next week any more that Roddy knows he won't be. Amy has as much right to play the game as anyone else. She does not owe Dani's group anything either. She should not use the veto, not for them but because it is in HER best interests not to do so. |
Alaginger | Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:54 pm     I guess my battery pack died on me.....several entries back I said, "Amy, veto Roddy and then win HOH next week".......I meant to say, don't veto Roddy and then win HOH next week......DUH! Sign of old age....... |
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