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Groucho

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
She's doing it because she wants to confront him. She wants to turn the tables on him and make him feel uncomfortable and unsure in just the same way that he does to everyone else. She wants him to know that she sees through his crap. She wants to watch him try to spin so hard that he exposes how ridiculously manipulative he is. She wants to trap him logically the same way he tries to trap everyone else.

This is the only way to get the best of someone like Roddy. I think it's great. I'm not worried about her caving in. She's smarter than you all give her credit for. Go Amy!

Cameltoes

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope you are right Groucho. At first, she did seem to be toying with him but Amy just can't play with someone like Roddy. She is just not that diabolical. For her it's one big tease up until the veto meeting but for him it's about twisting things around to regain control of her. My only hope is that I do believe she would have a hard time breaking her word to Danielle.

Bigbrotherbelle

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy showed his @ss on the hammock with Amy, and he just did it literally on F3. I guess the cameraman must be new, he forgot to hit the bleep button ;)

C1mag

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm still not feeling like she will save him just yet but her approach was wrong. He now knows what she is up too and he is gonna spin and twist every emotion she has. She has already said to him... Don't tell anyone about this convesation. So he has planted a seed. He even suggested with him in the game he would help her pop off the people that would give her a bad time if she kept him in the game. By tomorrow night he is gonna have her mind in complete slush but I still think she will not back out of her promise to the entire house NOT to veto him. If she does she will tell them and they will pull her out of it. She knows in her heart that they are behind her in this decision.

Onlyhuman

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with you Groucho. I really don't think she is going to break.

I do think, however, that she is really sad that he continues to try manipulate her and she can't trust anything he says. And that he has so little respect for her that he believes that she is stupid enough to believe his "if you don't veto me you will leave" argument.

Wcv63

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh goodness. I guess this means I have to turn on the feeds.

Knowledgeseeker

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Congrats,Groucho,for your highly perceptive analysis!
I just hope your faith in Amy not "caving in" comes to fruition.

C1mag

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Here's his plan... If he talks her into this and she does happen to stay with him she will be the next target for betraying the house and he will get another free week. Once again a good person fealt bad, kept her word and fell on the sword for him. She had him all figured out lets hope she comes back around. I've noticed that no one in that house can match him with this type approach so why give him an open door. Marcellus did the best thing yesterday when Roddy started in on him... He got up and walked away!

Fabnsab

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
She got to see through the " they will all want you out for breaking your word to me" argument. She knows how badly they want him out and how badly they don't want her to use the POV. She had to give her word not to use it, for goodness sake. She has to know she will suffer no repercussions from this. She HAS to!

Fabnsab

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Do you want to know what I find interesting? amy was caving and she obviously wanted to continue but he tried to break up the convo twice. I find this curious because he was almost there. I wonder what he was thinking because you know he is always thinking something. He had to have a good reason.

C1mag

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fab I'm saying the same thing. For all his pig slop he shoveled at her she has to realize that the house is literally applauding her for not using the veto.

Wcv63

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I missed it. Now she is inside giggling with the others playing cards.

Maris

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The house is not applauding her. An hour and a half ago Marcellas and Danni said she has to go next week, they are sick of her. I say use the veto, screw em and walk out of the house this week.

Fabnsab

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wcv, you didn't miss much. Amy tried to con a con and I think it backfired. He said he needed to go to the bathroom and now she is inside and he is out...although he told her it looked bad that they weren't with the group, but he still didnt join them.

Bbfanatic

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i hope she uses the pov for the pure fun of a great twist in the game this week. it is tooooooo predictable.

Groucho

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
She wasn't caving at all. I think he wanted to stop talking because he knew he wasn't getting anywhere and he needed time to marshall his arguments.

Roddy's outside right now exercising. Working out his tension, perhaps? I think he's a little unsettled and wants to be by himself right now.

C1mag

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think he cut it off cause he needs time to think. Thats why he is out at almost 2 in the morning jacking up his adrenalin by working out! He's probably chanting... Think Roddy, just think! He now knows her whole hand and he just needs to twist it but he's gotta figure out how and just who to blame her betrayl of him on and then turn that person into the bad person in her eyes. He's not done with her yet. They are all going to bed and Dracula is gonna have her all to himself.

Onlyhuman

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, on one level I agree with you but I honestly think, for her personal self-respect, she HAS to not give in to Roddy's manipulations. She will hate herself forever if she does that.

One more week means an extra $750. It also means that she at least has a CHANCE to win HOH and possibly break up the strongest alliance. If she does, who knows what will happen!

For both personal and game reasons, it is smart for her to NOT veto him, even though I really would love for her to stick it to the house one time before she leaves.

Cliotheleo

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The way I see it, the only choice Amy has IS to veto Roddy and hope that, by some miracle, Marcellas gets a clue and nominates either Jason or Danielle. That would leave Roddy free to, a. vote to keep Amy and b. lobby Lisa to vote to keep Amy. That's the only way anyone who's name isn't Jason or Danielle is gonna have a chance.

Y'all are welcome to hope that Roddy and then Amy get kicked out and the final four sit around playing cards for the next month while they wait until it's time to hand Jason the money, but darn it, I wanna see a GAME!!!! :)

Fabnsab

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Groucho, if she wasn't caving then why is she outside in the hammock again basically begging for him to manipulate her more? I am sorry but she is through.

Maris

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 01:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy does not need the $750. She has said more than once she is doing it for the fun of the experience. I really believe she isnt there to win it and knows on every level tht she cannot win the game. As an appraiser I am pretty sure she makes more than $750 a week so the money doesnt mean much.

I think for personal reasons she would be better off saying I will use the veto not because of any promise I made since we all know that promises are a dime a dozen in this house but I am using the veto because, it IS all about the game Marcellas so ball is back in your court.

C1mag

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 02:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
.... And look where Amy decides to go.. right back to Dracula. That house is not paying attention at all!!! They know she is week. This is the same girl that left the house the first time because he wanted her gone and yet she ADORED him as she walked out and he stayed in waving goodbye!

Groucho

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 02:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fab -- Clearly we see this completely differently. I guess we'll see on Monday. :)

Cameltoes

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 02:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't understand why the rest of them are allowing this to happen? I thought they planned to stick together? Surely, they did not think Amy's revelation was enough to keep her immune. If she doesn't spill to Marcellas, they are in trouble.

C1mag

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 02:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
And fab with that fantasy you are suggesting she would be humiliated with words by Marcellus and she would be begging to leave the house. It's a great scandal but the wrong person to play it out. She is also all about being accepted. Thats how Roddy plays her. He gets that she is looking for acceptance. She either wants his acceptance or the entire house. I'm betting she leans towards the house to save her face. Plus she knows that he is playing on her emotions of trust and honesty. She made it clear that is her pet peave. I just wish she wouldn't do this to herself because she can't win a debate with him even though she is not gonna veto him.