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Annitar

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 03:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Has any of them reminded her that they got Chiara out for her? Have they reminded her that of the remaining HGs that Roddy was the only one to not vote for her to come back???

They have to remind her of these things. I'm sorry but she owes to those guys not to use Veto!

Cameltoes

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 03:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I know C1. That's the only shred of hope I have but why does the girl even have to talk to him if she cares about her word to those people? She knows it freaks them out when she talks to him. I'm really wavering on whether her word to them matters more than how she looks in Roddy's eyes.

C1mag

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 03:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm still scratching my head wondering why ... How is it that we see him for what he is but when he gets them alone one on one they all fall appart? I just don't get how they can easily fall for him. Amy did mention that they had to take personality tests before getting to the finals so it's obvious they chose certain ones who would fall for this type of crap!

What sucks is that the edited TV version will never show him for what he really is. It really is like listening to a socio path that thinks the world would cease too exist without his almighty pressence. He has convinced her that if he leaves on Thursday she would be gone the following week. With him there he makes her believe she would stay. He is lying through his teeth. He knows the second she takes him off the block she is going home! She will NOT be there in the house any longer and he could care less. So if she does do this for him then what the house will do to her will be complete justice.

He also knows that even if he is gone this week and she stays, she was going home next anyway. He could clearly see the pecking order. They weren't going to get rid of her because of her not keeping her word to veto him. That was nothing but a mind f_ck for her to think about when she would go next week. He would make her think that had she kept him in that she would still be there. What a jerk!!

I will say this about Amy.. I would rather play the game with someone who took on Roddy, stood up to his mind f_ck and booted him rather than be in a house where someone literally got played out by him and he sits back laughing at them. So if she wants to free him let her! She's toast on thursday if she does it!

Bigbrotherbelle

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 03:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, we are back from FOTH and Amy is in HoH w/Marcie sleeping and Lisa's taking her shift with Roddy now in the mash room.

Cameltoes

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 03:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The TV thing bugs the heck out of me. I know Marcellas's rants about Gerry don't end up on the show but that's probably because they are being merciful. Roddy says little in the DR so they just let all his crap pass on by. I would love an entire show (2 hour Roddy special) dedicated to his nonsense. I want his lies and half truths juxtaposed against his claims of integrity and his mind f____ sessions.

But C1, who there has stood up to him? None of them. He's still in the house. They can all get pissed at Amy but they need to look at themselves as well.

C1mag

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 03:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok we need to get this straight... The house is not allowed to evict Roddy. He is the most ethical, honest, sincere, loving player in this game. To even think about evicting him is putting your own personal integrity on the line. Society will despise you for doing such a disloyal thing to this man of great honor. Uh... Did I mention that this rule does not exist in the rule books! However, this house seems to think it does.

Bigbrotherbelle

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 03:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Is he trying to say he "gave" Lisa away to Eric and now he regrets it??

Annitar

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 03:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I like the fact that Feed 4 is highlighting Mr. Perfection's BALD SPOT!!

Oh my, that was bad of me! LOL!

Bigbrotherbelle

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 04:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What bald spot?

this one

LOL

C1mag

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 04:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
All I can say is that the preassure of the house may FORCE her to stand by her words and not veto him. She needs to clearly understand that if she does veto him out then they could put her up against someone like Josh and she will still go home. And she will go home with a lot of hatred directed towards her way. Not too mention 3 days of Marcellus verbally bashing her to the point where she will want to walk out early and Roddy will sit back and let it all happen. His next victim is Lisa.

Blinky

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 04:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Didn't Amy give her word to Dani that she would vote Roddy out if the house got rid of Chiara?

Annitar

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 04:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, I believe she did and she also gave her word earlier that she wouldn't use Veto.

C1mag

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 04:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Blinky not only did she give her word she would vote him out but today she gave her word she would not use the veto on him. She said it more than once and patted herself on the back for realizing what a manipulator he was. She had this great speech all prepared to tell him off when she shocks him by not using the veto. Now it looks as if she is going to use the veto on him and basically fall on the sword for him. The second she pulls him off she is going home.

C1mag

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 04:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
There is one other thing that the house will be dealing with if she uses the veto on him. They will be mad at her but just as mad at him for beating them all once again. They all know how he works. Even Amy knew this and she let it happen again and they all sat there and let it happen.

Amy

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 04:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy dosen't get to vote this week so that point is moot. And as for promises her promise to use the veto on Roddy superceeds her promise made today to not use it.

C1mag

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 04:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well if she uses it she goes home on Thursday. At least if she allowed them to boot him she would have another chance at hoh to keep herself safe. If she wants to fall on the sword for him and be another one of his victims then so be it. For some they will be real happy to watch him continue in this game. For others it is repulsive to watch how he plays this game.

Deb

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 04:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Amy realizes that she is going the next week anyway, regardless if she uses POV or not. M, D, L and J have already said she goes next week. Why not go out with a bang! After Marcels little nom show, I would consider doing just that.

Cameltoes

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 04:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The sad thing is we (and the rest of the house) can only shake are heads and think "woulda.. coulda.. shoulda". It wouldn't even have mattered who put him up, with Amy still in the house, the POV promise would still loom large. She probably would have saved him if Jason put him up. At least then, Gerry was still the backup bootee and Amy's promise would have been a promise kept and they could have moved on this week. Honestly, they might as well have voted Eric back in since the effect has been the same. If Eric returned, Roddy would still be there. He's still there anyway. At least Lisa would have had her man back and she would be happy.

Woodpecke®

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 04:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Marcellus is far more offensive in his game playing than Roddy. Psychologically, I also find Marcellus more cruel, condescending, and harsh than Roddy. Roddy is a smarmy jerk, and it is time for him to leave. His strategy failed very badly, and it fooled no one in the house. They have known for weeks that he is creepy, so I find him far less dangerous than many on this board.

C1mag

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 04:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
So then decide to go this week instead of taking a chance and maybe getting hoh and saving yourself the following week? Hmmm now that seems logical. If you thought you were the next target do you give up or do you play on? The man currently playing her the hardest could give her the answer to that. He would play this sucker out and stay in the game and come up with a plan to keep himself in the game. Not walk out for someone elses benefit just to get even. If she did nothing else she in this game could at least say she booted the king of manipulation and his queen. Walking out the door knowing you just fell on the sword for someone who could have left before you is just STUPID as hell! Who knows what could happen if she stayed in another week.

Bbnan

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 04:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think her previous promise not to use the veto means anything. The way I look at it, when she was evicted...all deals are off. It is a new game when she waltzes back in.

Amy

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 04:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that the way Danielle manipulates the other players, including Amy, is more repulsive than the way Roddy plays. Danielle and Marcellas talking about people behind their backs in viscious and vile ways is 100 times worse than anything I have ever seen Roddy do. I personally find the way Roddy plays very cunning.

Cameltoes

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 04:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I guess it just a matter of perspective. I can deal with a million horrible things said about me behind my back better than what Roddy is pulling. Either you care what people think or you don't. I find Roddy offensive. It's like the "friend" who wants you to give up every last dime you have saved to pay for school to help them get a car so they can get to work easier. At least if someone trashes me, I can have it out with them and be done with it. But to have someone think that you should care enough about them to put their needs above yours and make you think you are wrong to not want to sacrifice an opportunity of a lifetime for them (and offer absolutely nothing in return) is pretty low. I, personally, find Roddy a million times worse than anyone else in there.

C1mag

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 04:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Marcellus more psychologically dangerous than Roddy? Oh brother now that is a hard pill too swallow! What we all saw tonight with Roddy was psychological b.s. at it's best. Marcellus is playing this game as we have seen it all played before. He lies, betrays, and forms alliances.

Roddy tells them that they cannot EVICT him or they would be giving up their integrity. Society would be disgusted if they betrayed him on national TV. He tells them that they would have to live with that horrid choice for the rest of their lives. He constantly tells them that he is the most ethical and beloved player of the house. With him gone he tells them their game would cease to be. In the end each of his victims of this type of game play from him run around begging the house to save him while he watchs them fall on the sword. Once they get out they realize what he has pulled on them. Now THAT is psychological damage.

I've yet to hear Marcellus play the psychological card with any of them. If he has tried it on Amy he has failed. His lies do not come close to playing on someones emotions.

C1mag

Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 04:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
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