Bunyun | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 03:57 pm     OH BROTHER!!! Now Amy is complaining that when she was putting on her makeup, Gerry came in and told her she looked nice without makeup! So whats the big deal????? Marc is going on about him never knocking, SOOOOO, who does. They must be trying to justify voting him off. A little guilt maybe?? |
Crazydog | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 04:00 pm     I agree with Stingerman and Goddess. It is inappropriate for Gerry to make sexual remarks to them unless they had done so before. Just because the house has a "family" atmosphere does not mean that anything goes. Just because Lisa is comfortable talking to Chiara about such things does not mean that she is automatically comfortable talking to Gerry about the same things. Gerry was trying to fit in and be "one of them". But singing that song to Lisa about how she "likes it on top" is wildly inappropriate. In my experience, it's the type of comment that gets men slapped. A man who has no reciprocal attraction with a woman should not be discussing her sexual tendencies. |
Lombadier | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 04:01 pm     I believe that even after he leaves the house on Thursday they will continue to bash him, as they do Chiara and Tonya. It'll be "remember when Gerry did this or that..." Some people just thrive on being nasty. |
Maris | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 04:03 pm     I am not saying Gerry is guilty at all but people should state what was actually said instead of toning down what Gerry says. Amy did not complain that he said she looked nice without make up. He told her she was really beautiful without make up. He then went on to say not many women can look that nice without make up. He made three statements and she said he was leering at her when he was saying it. She said she was uncomfortable because she was alone in the room with him. I am absolutely NOT saying that Gerry did anything wrong but please lets not mischaracterize what the other HGs are saying. Gerry did not simply say "you look nice without make up". |
Car54 | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 04:03 pm     Earthmother, exactly. It is the nature of the game that these people have to betray someone every week. To make themselves feel ok about it, they demonize that target. Gerry has been pretty independent all long..playing his own game..not joining any long term alliances...and that is not a strategy they understand. But one other fact of the game is that all but two of these people have to go through the exact same experience, so what goes around, comes around. And the other nice thing is, if he is eliminated before the end, he will get a chance to come back for the finals, having seen everything and tell them what he thinks before he votes. He has shown us that he is perfectly willing to speak up against the popular group. Kinda sweet, ain't it? |
Hosewater | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 04:06 pm     He's married for one thing, which tends to weaken one's status as "suitable husband material. Yeah, right... Tell me another one.... My father's second wife certainly viewed my dad as "suitable husband material". He was married for 20 years, with three kids ages 18 to 10. She had no qualms about pursuing my dad and breaking up his marriage. |
Hosewater | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 04:09 pm     He made three statements and she said he was leering at her when he was saying it Amy wouldn't know poop from applesauce, and I say that in a very loving way. (anyone know what line that movie is from? I just took my 4-year-old to see it today) |
Maris | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 04:11 pm     Remember Gerry was married and living with wife number one when he met wife number two. |
Hosewater | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 04:15 pm     We don't know what his relationship was like with wife number one. The fact that he's been with #2 for 28 years says something about his ability to maintain a long-term relationship. #1 may have just been a youthful mistake. |
Goddessatlaw | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 04:16 pm     K - headed to Late Nite. Luv to all . . . |
Secretsmile | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 04:22 pm     I am not a Dani hater, but she starts this nastiness about another hg's personal quirks. Once again, Amy and Lisa were doing girl talk quietly one night, when Dani found out she helped amplify it and now it's a major issue in the house. She's the one that started the deal about Gerry in the beginning of the show. Amy and Marce had a quiet little rivalery over Roddy, Dani got Amy to spill about it and the next day, Tonya and Chiara were on the warpath. She got miffed at Marce and started in on him until he fessed up and they made up. |
Willow_Woman | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 04:24 pm     so what goes around, comes around Well, Roddy should have a boat-load of, uh, toxic waste heading his way any day now. (I'm talking Queen Mary here.) BTW, I've been watching the feeds all along (till I cancelled them today) and I don't ever remember G. "leering" at anyone. Definition: Leer: To look with a sidelong glance, indicative especially of sexual desire or sly and malicious intent. Naw, I don't think so. Car54, I think you've got it. They bash whomever they're going to vote out. It's probably a psychological defense mechanism. They try really hard to convince themselves he is a bad, terrible, awful person (a boil on the butt of society) so *they* don't feel bad when they vote him out. (They just lanced the boil.) I'm sure there's a name for this phenonmenon, I remember reading about it in Grad. school. Psychology majors? |
Bbwhiners | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 04:26 pm     Totally agree Secret - Dani is the house Stealth B**ch |
Cjr | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 04:34 pm     I remember seeing G tell A she looked pretty (beautiful?) without make-up. I never thought anything of it and A seemed to lap up the compliment at the time. That is all it was! A simple compliment. Good grief. You are right Secretsmile. Danni is behind all of this. I only hope G has his 2 cents when he leaves tomorrow or when he votes in the end. |
What555456 | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 04:44 pm     This happens every week before an eviciton -- the person getting evicted gets trashed by the remaining houseguests so they all can relieve their guilt over getting rid of the person. It seems that none of them can simply say that they want the person out as strategy in the game. They have to demonize the person to make it sound like they are justified in eliminating the devil himself. This is also, btw, one of the first things any government does when it is thinking of war -- demonize and depersonalize the supposed enemy. Makes people willing to kill those people without guilt because they obviously are evil and have no good in them at all. |
Trillian | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 04:49 pm     I said being married tends to weaken someone's status as suitable husband material. Not that it would always do so, just that it tends to. The qualifier "suitable" also means more than "potential" - it also means appropriate. |
Lujie | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 04:49 pm     Yesterday they were ALL telling A that she looked better without so much make-up. G is just a day late and a dollar short and wanting to give her a compliment. |
Draheid | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 04:51 pm     Hey, What555456 has a point ... does this mean we should see Amy going next since they've been bashing her quite a bit lately? Hmmmm...interesting trend to watch for!  |
Secretsmile | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 04:53 pm     LOL, I don't think Amy is ever outta season, oh yeah she's always on the block! |
Tnsocialworker | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 04:54 pm     I think Gerry tries very hard to fit in, but does not know how. His remarks to Amy seemed harmless enough, but I did not see the "leer". Gerry does not appear to have a clue about respecting personal space and how stares can make others feel uncomfortable. It is rather strange for a school teacher to have such a lack of social skills. |
Wendydarling | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 04:56 pm     When I heard that Gerry french kissed the top of Lisa's hand, that was it for me. He is foul. I feel sorry for his family. |
Hosewater | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 04:58 pm     What? Are they just making stuff up now? French-kissed Lisa's hand????? |
Earthmother | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 04:58 pm     but the government won't be needin' that vote in a few weeks...Gerry should make some phone calls and make sure everyone sees the dirt in the next few weeks. I hope Gerry does some serious damage.. |
Maris | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 04:59 pm     I hadn't heard that one Wendy. That is gross. |
Hosewater | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 05:00 pm     Yeah, Gerry putting his tongue on Lisa's hand is much more gross than Lisa putting her tongue on Chiara's tongue. Or Lisa putting her unwashed hand on Eric's penis. |