Archive through August 25, 2002
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C1mag | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 03:41 am     I'm a little concerned about Lisa. She is keeping her distance from Dani. She has already questioned Dani about not telling her the right way too vote. She said it makes her look like Chiara in the end and that is not what she wanted. I hope Lisa realizes that Dani didn't do it on purpose. She showed her the queen card and Lisa thought she meant that they were saving the queen not the King. Dani explained it to her and reminded her not to get upset and they were on their way to the final 3 with Jason. It would be hella stupid for Lisa to pull from a sure bet and run towards a new alliance simply because she questions miscommunication. In this case Dani did not play her but after what Lisa has been through I'm sure she feels bad. |
Cameltoes | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 03:44 am     If Lisa thought it meant they were saving the Queen, why did she vote to evict Chiara? |
Eden | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 03:49 am     If Jason does, indeed, nominate Gerry and Roddy. Roddy would be the target. Gerry has intimated, more than once, a desire to align with Danielle. I think he wants Roddy out but hasn't had reason enough to follow through. Gerry told Danielle last week he would not nominate her, with the thought that Roddy would survive and would no doubt be politicking against her. So, that indicates some sort of, at least, loose mental alliance, if not an actual one to Danielle. If they choose this scenario, Roddy vs Gerry, I hope they have the kindness to tell Gerry he won't be evicted even in the event of a tie. Don't leave the poor man dangling on tenterhooks all week! |
C1mag | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 03:52 am     I really can't explain it other than it confused Lisa and Lisa fealt as if Dani short changed her and in a way it does look like it so I'm sure Lisa thinks that. Because maybe she was telling Lisa she voted to save the queen but the queen was going. It was a moment of a lot of bad communication where Jason had to guess at what opposite meant. In a way it does make Dani look like she stood out there looking like the good person while the rest screwed chiara over. Thats why I'm wondering how lisa really feels. I'm sure she doesn't trust any of them. One thing for sure is that she knows Roddy campaigned against her and stood behind a lie Josh said and that should have some bearing on who she should go with. At least I hope. I think Dani did a bad thing too her but hopefully Dani can smooth it over and keep telling her that if she sticks to the plan then they will get to the final 3. She didn't vote to have Eric back in which was a clear indication who she wanted to play the game with so lets hope it stays that way. Roddy playing her isn't gonna help cause she's gotta wonder why he would talk to her when he thought she would betray Chiara. She may find that hella insulting and nothing but a game. I feel for Lisa and hope she goes all the way. She's been screwed enough and I hope they are good to her and don't use her too much. |
Cameltoes | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 03:57 am     I think Lisa is definitely distrusting everyone but I guess it's a matter of the lesser of two evils. Danielle has a stronger allegience to Jason than the one she has towards Lisa (and the final 3 of J/L/D favors Dani since I think both Jason and Lisa would take her to the finals) but I don't think there is anyone else in there that Lisa would be comfortable with as an ally. The good thing for her is that Danielle and Jason are both more likely to be targets than she is. |
C1mag | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 04:00 am     I agree Camel and as I mentioned her choice to keep Eric out was an indication of who she is playing the game with and I don't think from here on out she will change unless something bad happens. These three right now have this game and are the only ones that can say that they have a definite plan to get to the finals. That in itself takes some stress off the game. |
Wendo | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 04:10 am     C1mag, I'm a bit worried about Lisa too. I do think she took the news ok, but I'm sure she has questions. What made me worried was that she told Roddy she didn't vote for Chiara to stay. So, now Roddy knows one vote for sure. Plus, he's probably betting that Jason did what Chi asked. Process of elimination, Dani was the one vote to evict him. He'll use this information, not now, but at a later date to taint Dani. (Probably with Lisa.) The other comment, when Roddy said he thought he knew what was up and Lisa said to Roddy, You don't know everything (she backtracked, but did say it.) Then, a few mintues later, offers to fill in the blanks. (And, she commented about how people have others do the dirty work; though, one could argue she did the same thing when she got out of the tub so Amy got HOH. She admitted in the DR she didn't want to tip her hand yet.) I dunno. I think Lisa is on the fence, seeing where things shake out and how the cards lay. (Which is fine, she should be playing for herself, not other people. Just commenting on her relationship to Ja and Dani.) |
C1mag | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 04:55 am     Wendo I'm thinking almost the same thing. I went back and reviewed the lf's and Dani said something to Lisa I didn't like. When Lisa said she was worried that Roddy would nom her Dan said that she shouldn't worry cause Jason is hoh. Lisa said that she didn't think Jason had the balls to nominate Roddy this week. Then Lisa asked who he would nominate and Dani said she didn't know and she was staying out of it. Now that is the wrong thing to say to a person who you are aligned with. Cause after that Lisa was alone with Roddy and that is when she made the comment to him that there are a lot of snakes in this house and then he said he didn't think Chiara would mind if they helped each other out in the game. He said he didn't know everything and she said she could probably fill in the pieces. He said hold off for tonight. I don't like this conversation but I understand how Lisa might feel right now. I think Lisa is getting paranoid over Dani and I don't blame her. It's not fair of Dani to leave her out there wondering what is up. All of a sudden after flip flopping and playing the game so hard last week this week she is saying she isn't gonna get invovled. That isn't fair. Not after what Roddy and Chiara pulled on her. I'm hoping that Jason puts Roddy up and then Lisa will feel good about her alliance with D and J otherwise I think she will feel like she was used to get out Chiara cause she was told it was suppose to be Chiara and Roddy going back to back. Lets see what happens after Dani gets some sleep. Hopefully she will get back in this game and at least talk openly with her alliance. She seemed aprehensive tonight due to the stress. When Jason said he didn't know what to do all Dani said was do what you want, but then she did mention about Chiara and Roddy thinking he was weak. Dani has confused me this whole game so I just don't know. If I were Lisa I'd be questioning her loyalty as well. |
Jan | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 07:29 am     let's not forget Lisa's comments after her convo with Dani wherein they talked about Kiki and Roddy believing that Lisa was out to get Chi. She said to Dani "now I have two people gunning for me" meaning Gerry and Roddy. I think she is trying to mend fences with Roddy by making him think she is on his side and sees through Dani. She does not trust Roddy at all, IMHO, but doesn't want him gunning for her. If she can convince him she is a sweet little thing waiting to be led, he won't nom her. |
Minkster1973 | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 07:52 am     Eden......in the case that Jason nominates Gerry and Roddy, why does anyone owe it to Gerry to let him know in advance that he won't be going anywhere, even in the case of a tie? Getting nominated and finding out on Thursday whether you leave or not is a HUGE part of this game. We have seen Roddy nominated two weeks in a row, and no matter how confident he acted, he had no idea how the votes were going to fall either week. Gerry does not deserve special treatment here. He has never been nominated and he needs to sweat it out for a week like the rest of them. It's all about the experience. It's all about playing the game. Being nice and telling Gerry that he will be okay is comparable to everyone walking out the door right now and leaving the win to Danielle. This is why they aren't supposed to talk about voting after the votes have been made. There would be no reason to air the show if that was how they played the game. |
Wrat1010 | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 08:25 am     C1mag; I think Dani did arrange this voting on purpose, not so much to make Lisa look bad, but to make her look good, since she knew that Roddy had figured out she had promised Chiara not to vote against her and had promised Amy to secure the 3 votes against Chiara at the same time, and the only way she could fulfill both promises is to ask Jason and Lisa to change their votes. Danielle does genuinely care for Lisa but that doesn't change the fact that Danielle played her and I attribute Danielle's tears and comments on hating playing this game to some guilt about not only how she played Chiara, but how she played Lisa as well. Danielle felt she had to take such a risk to stop Amy from nominating Chiara and Jason at all costs, and Jason is her true alliance partner, not Lisa. It will be interesting how the Lisa factor comes into play with next week's voting. I think it depends on whether Roddy is on the block, come next Thursday. I think that if he is, Lisa will side with Danielle and Jason and evict Roddy. But I also think that it is in Marcellas, Amy and Gerry's best interests to use the veto and spare Roddy IF they think that Lisa can be convinced to vote differently than Danielle, and I think Lisa is justified in doing so, given that Danielle did so this week. For example, if Jason nominates Roddy and Marcellas, Roddy could work out a deal with Lisa that if Amy vetoes Roddy, then when Jason puts up Gerry with Marcellas, we could see Roddy, Amy and Lisa all voting to evict Gerry. Or if Gerry wins the veto and vetoes Roddy then Jason puts up Amy against Marcellas. It's just as risky if Jason nominates Roddy and Amy, or Roddy and Gerry. If Dani is this year's Nicole and Jason is this year's Hardy, then Lisa is in the Bunky position. She may have no choice but to go with Dani and Jason, especially if Dani or Jason wins the power of veto and Roddy stays on the block. I remember last year how Nicole was laying this scenario that Nicole, Hardy and Bunky would be the final three, and how she used that to make Bunky turn on Kent and Krista; but there was no way Nicole was going to let Bunky get as far as final 3 since there was too much of a risk that he would reach the final and win. I think Dani will use Lisa's vote to get rid of Roddy and Marcelas, but will then get Lisa voted out and try to get a final 4 of Gerry-Amy-Danielle-Jason. That way Gerry or Amy will vote out Jason for her. |
Spunky | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 08:52 am     Thank you for keeping up this thread. It's nice to read it in the morning. I guess you people here are the West coasters who can stay up so late. Kudos to you all. I really liked when Jason convinced Roddy to leave the HOH room with only his body language... good going! |
Saggkl | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 08:57 am     Jason could by pass that problem by telling Amy or Gerry that he would replace Roddy with them if they use the veto. |
Spunky | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 11:38 pm     Westcoasters, yooohooo?? I hope you'll keep this thread up. I know it's a bit boring this round (and no Chiara!!!) but I hope some of you could report on some enlightening convos... |
Whit4you | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:48 pm     I agree Spunk - great thread - With me having to get up at 6 am lately I don't getta stay up till 3 or 4 watching them sigh... |
Jadeygurl39 | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:09 pm     Hi Late Nighters. Just sittin here relaxing and watching Amy and Marcy cuddle. I know he is gay but I see them as sorta a cute couple in a weird sort of way. LOL...JMHO. |
Meggieprice | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:15 pm     I'm listening in too...mostly hanging out on Has Dani Given Up, which has settled into a sort of Lets Talk Game Until We Pass Out thread...definitely will check in and post here if it gets exciting. |
Stingerman | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:22 pm     Man this has been one of the funniest nights I've seen with all of them. I haven't laughed so hard in a very long time. I wish I was good at shorthand and could write it all done but unfortunetly. The gist of it is they are making up the BB3 Movie of the week with different people playing them. eg. Lisa = Alisa Malano Tonya = Loni Anderson Amy = Tory Spelling Marcellus = Rerun These are just some of them and they keep changing them. Very good stuff though and very funny. |
Fabnsab | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:42 pm     Please Marcellas, don't insult my very favorite Jack Wagner by comparing him to roddy. I shudder at the thought! |
Meggieprice | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:51 pm     Last list was (Alyssa Milano too expensive- waiting on Lisa and not able to cast Dani yet...) Loni Anderson as Tonya Judith Light as Lori Jenny Garth as Amy David Fumero as Eric Carrot Top as Josh Kelli Martin as KiKi Jason Priestly as Jason Jack Wagner as Roddy Wilfred Brimley as Gerry Alfoinso Riveiro as Marcellas |
Meggieprice | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:52 pm     Fab- how about Robert Blake instead? Suitably menacing. You can tell how I am feeling about Roddy! LOL. |
Fabnsab | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 12:02 am     LOL@Meggie.. Roddy can be one of those soap opera stars who do lifetime movies about beating up their wives. Or Mark Harmon when he did Deliberate Stranger about Ted Bundy...I think I'm on to something. |
Meggieprice | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 12:04 am     I am trying to think of someone like Mark Harmon but with a little more bulk to their frame...but you have got the flavor perfectly! |
Fabnsab | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 12:10 am     Did Emilio Estevez ever play a sinister master manipulator? That is the only person I think of when I see Roddy. Maybe he isn't too expensive at this point in his career...lol |
Stcollguy | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 12:13 am     I've been trying to send a telepathic message to the HGs: Tina Yothers as Amy
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