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Cindyluvsroddy

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 08:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ok Romans8_1 .... Roddy is a human as well ... alot of "christians" , as they claim, have been bashing him to no end ..

in my world, its not what u say that makes u a good person - cause thats easy - its what you do ... alot of christains have that confused ...

anyway, no harm done Romans8_1 :)

Magikearth

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Spygirl,I really appreciated your posts at 8:18 and 9:23. I read alot of negative posts about Jason,seems some people have a hard time believing he's straight or they want to mock him for his Spirituality.One poster even described him as "Evil Personified." I didn't reply because I didn't want to dignify that "statement" with an answer.
You're very articulate and I respect the way you conduct yourself without resorting to negativity.:)

Romans8_1

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cindy,

Roddy bashing is not right in my book. The bashing should not be directed toward him, but his actions. We are taught to love one another, but not love/accept the actions.

Example ... My son will do something wrong, I will tell him that I love him, but I don't like what he did. It's very important to seperate the action from the person.

Yes we must condemn unChristian-like behavior (regardless of who does it). But not with malice. Not with superiority. But with love and compasion. Rules are not there to constrain us (like most un-believers think), but to help us. Think of the lines in the road we drive on. We can cross the line, but they may be concequences (a wreck/death). God knows what is best for us and has put lines in the road and said "if you drive over the line, there will be consequences". So, we who love others try to point out those lines in the road to those who cannot see them. If you ever catch me Roddy bashing, I apologize because it is not him that I mean to bash, but his actions. I also don't know how Roddy is taking the blunt of this bashing, the list is long of people who deserve it (including myself).

Karuuna

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wait, wait! How did a thread about understanding Jason turn into a thread on strong and weak Christians???

Oh my heck! Can we go back to talking about whether he's gay or not?

Loppes

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This stuff is way too heavy for me. Its only a tv show and the winner gets some money. Can't we just have fun talking about that instead of getting into deep philosophical debates on christian values? In the midst of discussion here, I see subliminal bashes at other posters, so how Christian is that?
Lon

Curlyq

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, now I'm really stumped. What's a "subliminal bash"?

Spygirl

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You are quite welcome, Magi and Romans. Given what "evil personified" really looks like in the world (the killing abusing of innocent children for example), I find it absurd to draw a connection to someone like Jason in this game. But hey -- what do I know? hehe

If some people prefer to think Jason is gay, then actually that works in my favor. They can just leave Jason for a woman like me who can appreciate him for what he is -- a great person who will likely make a loving, faithful and caring husband and devoted father. All those who choose to think his religion weakens him can have all the Erics and Roddys of the world and spend their lives in power struggles, condescending conversations, and wonderings of fidelity. Not to say that Roddy and Eric wouldn't make great husbands, but Jason just has all the right "stuff" up front, IMO.

So...I guess everyone is happy in the end :)

Maris

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
well we can talk about whether Jason is a strong gay christian or a weak gay christian.

Loppes

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Curlyq,
To be blunt, a post by someone named Spygirl which said, "Romans, I appreciate your posts today. Thank you for sharing. I think you've nailed some people right on the head and it is apparent by their need to continue posting snide comments after you each time",

and a post by Magikearth, "One poster even described him as "Evil Personified." I didn't reply because I didn't want to dignify that "statement" with an answer."

It looks to me those are pretty direct without naming the poster.
LOn

Romans8_1

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, you are too funny. On that note I am heading to bed. I wish a good night to you all.

Good night and God bless.

Cindyluvsroddy

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
People act as if they know Jason .. omg!! get real! .. he could be a great guy, but u know what? so could Roddy or Eric!! ....

Whether or not somebody is a chriatian does not make a person good or evil ....

Jason has all the right stuff upfront??? thats such a fantasy! you don't know that!! besides, that is your opinion ....

All i am saying is that you can't or shouldnt condem someone because they don't follow your christian ideas ...

My sister and her girl friend are gay - living together, just adopted a baby ... they r the nicest, warmest people i know .... do your christians ideas support them?? .. i bet not!!

cindy :)

Magikearth

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Loppes,I'm sorry if you thought I was bashing another member,but that remark really floored me.
I just didn't think it was important to name names,that's all. Peace-Out! :)

Curlyq

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Loppes, I guess this goes back to the question I asked in another thread. What exactly is the definition of bash? I always thought a bash was a personal attack, not just disapproving of someone's behavior. I also found "evil personified" as way over the line and said so, because this to me constitutes a genuine bash. It's an attack on Jason himself rather than on his behavior. Pointing out that I didn't like that someone said that just doesn't seem like a bash to me, anymore than when you pointed out that you detected subliminal bashing (a fantastic oxymoron by the way) by Spygirl and Magikearth.

Moderator

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okey dokey, everyone just simmer down before I have to pull out my moderator toolbelt which comes completely equipped with a Binford Special Post Eradicator, an Amazing Gas-powered Post Trimmer, and the ultimate tool - the dreaded Super Thread Smasher....

Seriously folks, keep your comments to remarks about the HG's behavior, and sharing of opinions. Play nice! I'll be sitting right over here...

(K)

Cindyluvsroddy

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
sorry :(

Moderator

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No need for apologies, just wanted to get things back on track. Or scare you all away. Just kidding. Really. :)

Sbeachy

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ok, here's my 2 cents, fwiw.
Jason being the lovely christian that he is, is also a fan of reality tv. HE KNOWS THE GAME!! I think everyone needs to take a deep breath and remember this. He want's to win! Who doesn't! Not necessaraly the $$, just the game.
My thought's on why he didn't nominate Roddy.
Roddy will do his dirty work and get rid of Dani, and if/when Jason and Roddy are the final 2, (I think we all know) Jason will look/be better, and therefore win the game!
I think Jason is a wonderful, caring person. I see him winning for those qualities, and his parent's should be proud of raising such a wonderful young man!
again, just my 2 cents!
ty for your time!

Loppes

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Moderator,
Those things are deadly! Especially the Gas-powered ones. I'm just gonna put on my cowboy hat and mosey on over to the late night social club. Have a peaceful evening mod.
Lon

Maris

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The only flaw in your argument is that we all know he will be in the final two. Roddy has that figured out too. Roddy does not want Jason in the final two. Roddy wants Gerry in the final two and nobody else.

Sbeachy

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
maris, why does roddy think he can beat gerry if they are the final 2? please share...other than the fact that they all bash on gerry, of course!

Maris

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Because the HGs will be voting not the general public. All the HGs hate Gerry and I believe they will vote for Roddy to win over Gerry. I could be wrong but if it is Jasons assumption that Roddy will take him to the end, then I think he is wrong.

Sbeachy

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ok, maris, I understand. But, I think that the hg's dislike roddy just a little bit TOO! I also have to respectfully disagree about jason thinking that roddy will carry him thru to the end! My guess is reverse that! Jason brings roddy to the end! and Jason comes out the winner!!
again, jm2cents

Annitar

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, Roddy of course thinks everyone loves him as much as he loves himself! LOL!

Maris

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason can pretty much bring anyone with him to the end (except possibly Lisa) and he will win. That is why I do not think he will make it to the final two. The final three yes but not two.

Sbeachy

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Annitar!!