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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Archive One: Who has the BB record for 'cruelest' houseguest?: Archive through August 28, 2002

Ocean_Islands

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 07:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
On three seasons, lots of people have come and gone, with lots of different personalities. Marcellus's recent behavior has me wondering if he isn't the cruelest houseguest of all.

Countrymeadow

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 08:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hands down Marcellas. It's not only his recent behavior. He's been bashing and being generally UGLY to quite a few in that house. However, his attacks on Gerry have completely turned me off. I hope he walks out of there without a dime!!!

Tresbien

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 08:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Interesting question, Ocean. Marcellas has made his share of mean-spirited comments and gossip, but I wouldn't characterize that as cruelty. To me, the cruelest HG of all is Roddy. Most of us believe in the spirit of fair play in sports, games, and life in general. I don't think Roddy is merely smart and clever; I think that the way he manipulates the others is both cruel and ruthless. The others are permitting this to happen, that's true, but I still think it's low behavior even for this contest.

Battlestar

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 08:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Danielle is a close second---and the main reason is that she is kind and friendly to everyone to their faces/ but has no qualms at all at going for their throats when they can't hear.

But unlike real life, everything she says is out there, so people like Gerry and Chiara will find out she is nothing like her face persona.

But--it may also affect her jurry votes for Payback (she said it was a b*tch)

Csnog

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 08:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Marcellas

Marcellas

Marcellas

Dannielle is a close second.

I just loved him for the first 2 weeks but he has shown his true nature.

His Dorian Grey portrait must look very ugly by now.

Secretsmile

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 08:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have to admit, I thought this would be another Bash Marcellas thread, but I am in agreement with both Tresbien and Battlestar. There is more cruelity in those two's game playing than in the blantant 'trashing verbally' that Marcellas and Amy do.

Cindyluvsroddy

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 08:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
OMG!!! it has to be Shanon!!!!!

she was a mean person! lol .... if she didn't get caught with the tooth brush incident, she would of let that go ...

and then the potato chips!! lol

she did make up with hardy - but still - that was mean lol

Costacat

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 08:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Shannon. Sorry, but that toothbrush incident gets the gold medal in my book. Particularly since she wasn't very remorseful afterwards. She also was pretty good at disrespecting other HGs.

Terry

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 08:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry Tresbien but I don't see Roddy as cruel or ruthless. I see him playing the game to the best of his ability. Manipulating is an accepatable mode of operation and he is good at it. I see nothing evil about his performance or his strategy.

On the other hand Marcellus is IMO the worst of the worst. In last years BB, I had a real huge dislike for Nicole. That is trivial to the negative feeling that I have for Marcellus. If he were the only one in the house or even in the final three, I would shut down the feeds and quit watching the show entirely. I won't go so far as to say I hate him. (There is enough hate going around and the word is used too much). Marcellus' back biting and negativity is extremely taxing on my emotions. I just wish that I could show him a snippet of tape so that he could see what I see. Maybe then he would mellow out and rejoin the human race. LOL

Chiparock

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 08:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
[Justin, from BB2, wins the (booby)prize as cruelest HG by far. We know about the Krista incident, and he BRAGGED about his violent sexual exploits. If he can be counted as a HG, he holds the record by a landslide.]

I thought Eddie from BB1 was one of the cruelest. For example, he scared the heck out of poor Pugita when he got on the floor and "played" with her by shouting, growling, and banging on the floor. Also, his rudeness bordered on cruelty when he was banging pot lids in Cassandra's face. His general shouting and swearing took his fellow houseguests aback, not to mention viewers. He's definitely in contention for the record.

Crossfire

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 08:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Will was pretty mean too. He nearly drove Nicole to the nuthouse last year.

He'd poke her, she would freak out, he would cross his fingers, apologize profusely, admit he was wrong, promise not to do it again, wait five minutes, then poke her again...on and on and on.

That was pretty mean. You could see it coming from miles away every time it happened. He is lucky she did not strangle him out on the patio more than once last year.

'poke' meaning a mental jab, or other otherwise annoying action.

Catbowl

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 08:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I believe if Will-Mega stayed...he would have had it hands down. He hated everybody. Do you remember his little prank with the table challenge? How much more damage could he have done? He was big into mind games and getting in your face.

Nimtu

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 08:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Gosh, hate to say it but..Marcellus (who I can't believe I wanted to win at one time). Long term cruelty winner would be Danielle whose comments will be a real blow to the HG's that really believe she cares for them..Roddy's game is not my favorite, however, I (this is very painful)don't see his manipulations as having a real long term negative effect on the HG's as most of them have referred to him as the devil at one time or another. (I hope this comment doesn't cost me my place in the "Roddy Haters" club)

Boberry

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 08:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Has to be Marcellas ... hands down. I would say he was the anti-Christ, but since his head is shaved and there is no 666, I guess I will still have to attribute that to Bill Gates.

Woodpecke®

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 08:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Marcellus. From day one. Weird and extremely vicious. Selfish. Crude. Rude. Unappreciative. Childish.

Ocean_Islands

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 08:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Shannon was pretty wicked but I think Marcelus might be worse than her. Come to think of it, they are very similar, except that Marcellus talks to everyone.

Bandit

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 08:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd have to say Justin-or Shannon. To me, Marcy doesn't have anything on them.

Stingerman

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 08:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh come on Marcellus are you people out of your minds!!!!

Justin takes a butcher knife and asks If it's ok if I slice your neck open and you think Marcellus is the worst person?????

Marcellus is being petty and mean spirited lately but nothing any of the other BB HG"s have ever done comes close to Justin's actions.

Crazydog

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 08:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with Justin. Justin was cruel, arrogant, foul, unstable and dangerous all at the same time. I still remember his defiant interview with Julie where he stated he had "absolutely no idea" why he had been expelled from the house. What a creep.

Marc is nowhere near as bad as him.

Fluff

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 09:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Shannon was the cruelest, and then she wondered why nobody liked her. Please! I don't think Marcellas would do what she did to anyone. That woman was so nasty, and I honestly think that she didn't have the intention of telling Hardy what she did. Absolutely disgusting. It's a game!!!! Why do people fail to realize that! She took it too far. I can't say that Justin was cruel. Crazy, but not cruel.

Silksmoke

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 09:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
BB1 - Karen (she basically broke up with her husband on national TV)
BB1 - Eddie

BB2 - Justin
BB2 - Shannon

BB3 - Marcellas
BB3 - Josh (sorry, the Nazi comment didn't sit well with me)

John32070

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 09:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
1. Justin-For the knife deal, looking like he was about to hit Kent over the pillow thing, and just plain being a jerk.

2. Marcelles-How many of us cheered Gerry for saving this guy? He has had his moments, but his constant swipes at Gerry are inexcusable.

3. Shannon-The potato chip insult to Autumn, calling Hardy a coward for nominating her and Will, the toothbrush incident, and just being rude overall. Her mother don't help any either supporting her for the toothbrush thing.

4. Eddie-His rudeness, that banging pots scene with Cassandra, telling Jamie he'd like to clothesline her, turning his back on George at the end. I don't think he had any business winning the whole thing.

5. Mike-Wasn't too bad until Kent nominated him, then he insults Kent right off the bat and continues the whole week even insulting Kent's family. Pretty fly for a white guy he's not.

6. Mega-His arguments with Brit were out of line and racist when none was implied. Throwing the dead or alive challenge was just plain pathetic. Even Eddie called him on it.

7. Josh-He redeemed himself at the end a bit, but designating himself King of the house right off the bat was silly. Just because someone stands up to your supposed dominance of the house does not make one a Nazi.

8. Eric-Not that bad, but his lie to Gerry about protecting him from Josh showed his true colors, as if they hadn't been shown already.

9. Amy-Chiara? Need I say more?

10. Danielle-I don't like her bullying of Jason, though it would be nice if she'd tell him to save Gerry this week.

Draco

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 09:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
BB1 - Jordan
BB2 - Shannon
BB3 - Chiara

Romans8_1

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 09:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
1 - Marcellas - Bitter. He seems really mean on the inside also.
2 - Karen - Bitter, I still can't believe the things she said about her husband. warrented or not, you don't say that on national tv.
3 - Shannon - She just had a mean streak in her

Foodbunny

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 09:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If Gerry develops obsessive compulsive handwashing behavior when he leaves the house then Marcellas (and Danielle and everyone else who goes on about hime) may reach the level of Shannon. Shannon's taunts had effect way past the house, causing Amber to starve herself. That's what I consider cruel.