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Keiffer

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL WCV that is exactly my point. Roddy was a question mark, Chiara was not. She didn't get any opportunity to defend herself against getting put up. When she had won HoH she had no reason to expect to have to worry about an Amy comeback, and to be in a position to kick her out.

Ravenly

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I disagree, Amy wants Chiara out & put her up for nomination. She doesn't really care who got put up along with her as long as Kiki goes. The only reason she agreed to put up Rod was because he may use POV. She originally wanted Jason as a decoy. So, therefore, she DID put up who she wanted rather than Dan & marci, but it does help them achieve their goal as well. Unfortunately, it looks as tho Amy is going to be backstabbed by this. (Unfortunate for Amy, NOT me)

On your other point, you claim that Rod/Gerry don't know about a Jason/Dani alliance thus trying to moot my point that Chiara is clueless as to what is going on inside that house. I will say that 1) We are not sure what Rod thinks/knows at this point as he is not that open of a book and 2) If he DOESN"T know then that just means that Jason/Dani are playing this game shrewdly. If you want to compare how Chiara has played this game vs. Roddy/Dani/Jason/Gerry please do so and add some bullets for all the points Chiara gets.

My bottom line to the entire post is that there have been enuf "clues" for Chiara to figure out what is going on had she actually been playing.

Sanfranjoshfan

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 10:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ravenly - "My bottom line to the entire post is that there have been enuf "clues" for Chiara to figure out what is going on had she actually been playing. "

Easy answer....Chiara is simply clueless.

:-)

Ravenly

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 10:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
SANFRAN!! There you are! :) Nice seeing you again..

I would try and make a cutting remark comparing Alicia Silverstone's character to Chiara but unfortunately in this case it would be a compliment...

Sanfranjoshfan

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 10:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ravenly - I like, SO totally agree!

Snee

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 11:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
keiffer, it could have been any hg as hoh and any of the 4 returning. if chiara is choked, well, it was the luck of the draw. it would have been a b*tch for many of them had it turned out differently.

as far as wanting to see kiki in real pain? i don't think so. perhaps you are mistaking hate with 'i can't stand her! she is driving me crazy!' i'll tell you, she is my least favourite player, but if she was actually in pain i would feel very bad for her.

Wcv63

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 11:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer...what Snee said!

Thanks Snee

Spunky

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 11:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, thanks for the explanation of "white trash". I really was expecting something a bit more...innocent..even bad neighbors were mentioned. My neighbors have been banging all afternoon and I had to crank up the stereo.. boy a lot of white trash going on....

As for Chiara I thought her turn should have been after Roddy, but I can see Dani's predicament if she doesn't honor her promise to Amy.

I know of a way to save Chiara but this is only after the POV and I have to wait for that thread to come back (someone told me it was too early to talk about POV). So, I'll wait.

Creampuff

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 12:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Chiara has taken the stance from the inception of the game that she will say and do whatever SHE wants to do at any time, come hell or high water. Now, at this stage of the game, her cries of "Why me, it's not fair, da, da, da, dada", have a hollow ring to them and she doesn't 'get it'.

Any perpetrator of ill doing with a rap sheet of previous offenses, leaves themselves open to more severe scrutiny and we all know Chiapet was/is no first time offender! The chickens have come back to roost! I really expect Roddy will go this week though although I hope her time isn't far behind.

The HG's talk of what they will take from the house when they are evicted. The life lesson in her case might be...It's not whether you win or lose; it's how you play the game.

Wendo

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 12:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Chiara needs to take the advice I gave Josh last week...

1) Relax, sit back, and don't freak out. People who go "coocoo for cocoa puffs" while nominated do not help themselves. DO NOT SELF DESTRUCT.

2) Be nice to the HG's. All the HG's, including Amy. Even if you hate every bone in that girls body, be nice and sweet in front of her.

3) If you can, go to Amy and have a private chat. Explain to her that you're not upset about being nominated, that it's part of the game and you realize she had to do it. Smile, be nice, heck, even give her a hug. Tell her they should take the time over the next week to talk and get to know each other better.

4) Emotions. Don't let your emotions affect your game playing. Let your feelings go. It will set you free. (More than you know.)

Sia

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 12:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Chiora seems to think that she really tried hard to win the "Gutterball" HoH competition that was held last week. It was purely luck, not skill, really, that allowed her to win HoH. Several hamsters seemed to fling gutterballs almost on purpose, which makes it look like they "threw" the competition. Chiara's roll stayed on the board closest to the gutter without falling in (if only she could maintain her behavior in the same way!!) and it was pure chance that she won HoH. The little gutter-snipe wanted to be HoH, as much for the perks and privileges that accompany the title as she wanted to win the private HoH room. It's just ludicrous for her to say that she wouldn't have tried to win the competition if she'd known of the "Twist" in the game regarding a returning houseguest. Sour grapes! Ho-ho-ho, the ho' must go!! She's just the sorriest case of PWT-goes-city I've seen in a long time.

Spree17

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 12:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It is ridiculous for her or roddy to say they wouldnt have tried to win hoh because if people remember correctly gerry had just booted the first couple eric/lisa and the target was clearly placed on the remaining couple roddy and kiki to go next.

Dfwteddy

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 12:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Chiara (from the live feed postings): "My brother didn't want me to go on this show because it's a trashy show. The girls are white trash and gross. I said, "Joel, I'm from Manhattan and maybe I can make it a better show." (Was she improving the show when she was spreading her legs for the camera so she could see what she looked like when she was having sex, or when she has been proudly showing off the size of her crap in the toilet?)

Besides the I-didn't-have-a-chance-to-compete rant all evening, she has made a number of other remarkably (?) stupid and insensitive comments:

(1) She is the only HG evicted that won't get a second chance. (What about Josh and all the others who follow him?)

(2) 'It is unfair to target the couples, because one will be left behind.' She said that to Lisa and didn't have a clue! (And what about Roddy nominating Amy and Marcellas when Amy was evicted? What happens to the game when you run out of single people to evict?)

And my personal favorite (also from the live feed postings): "...Unfortunately most of America is just like where Amy is from -- white trash..."

Groucho

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 12:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This from the woman whose best female friend in the house was TONYA. Need I say more?

Snee

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 12:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
'most of america'??? wow, i didn't know we canadians were so dangerously close to all that 'white trash'. yikes!

Bigsister

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 05:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am another Arkansas Hillbilly trying to learn to live with being thought of as White Trash by Chiara. Don't know if I can bear it.

Keiffer, do you think it would have been fair for Chiara to be HOH two weeks in a row? That would have been a grossly unfair advantage, don't you agree?

The real unfairness occurred when BB brought back a houseguest who had already been evicted fair and square. Once that happened, it was not possible to square it up so that it would be fair to everybody, especially all the others who are evicted from here on and get no opportunity to come back. I can see your reasoning about Chiara, but making it fair for her would be unfair to everybody else.

Eden

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fair schmair. Grow up and quit your pouting. Wendo outlined just the way Chiara should behave if she has any desire to stay in the house. Excellent, Wendo!

Chiara hasn't been treated any more unfairly than any of the other HGs, in fact she's been given pretty much a free ride given her behavior. Had Gerry said and done half the things she has he would have been booted out long ago. Imagine Gerry getting on a bed and or tabletop for that matter and spreading his legs practicing sex positions "since it's been so long"! Believe me, no one would have been laughing it up!

As long as you're in the house you're still in the game. Quit your moaning. You may think you look pretty when you pout; you don't.

Poser

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Snee is continentally challenged. I can tell by the abundance of the letter U in the posts.

I'm edumacated, like Roddy.

Rissa

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Poser, maybe that will change in 2005 when Canada decides to officially become part of North America. :)

In the meantime, Snee and I will sit ourselves down on the chesterfield and enjoy some two-fours and poutine or perhaps a mickey of whiskey-jack and a nanaimo bar while bundled in an old housecoat, some mukluks and a touque for the ears. Or maybe we will grab ourselves a big ole box of timbits and run out to see a shinney game, eh? Nothing like a Chinook rolling over the rink to put some colour in your cheeks. No end to what we could find to spend a few toonies on, as long as those pogie cheques keep rolling in.

Jan

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well I do love it rissa. Can I come too, s'il vous plait? I promise to pay the hydro bill and bring my own serviettes! Should be fun n'est-ce pas?

Rissa

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jan, glad to have you on side!!! A few clicks up the road, with a trunk full of goodie tins, deke a few mounties and we will be home free. Have to do a quick repair of my tap first but then I am up for a day of dick all. Of course, I am not the type to get totally pissed, but a few drinks after spending a day with that keener in the office next to me sounds like just the thing to get my ducks back in a row.

RFLOL!!!! Now, what was this thread about again? :)

Spunky

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 09:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh my! Wendo, it's like turning Madonna into Mother Theresa.

I think I prefer the Chiara as is...

Of course, you are right, she should act as you say to hope for a chance to remain in the game.

Spunky

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What was her reaction to Gerry declining POV???

I think she should have felt a bit of relief, maybe she's hoping Danielle would break her promise to keep Roddy...Wait a minute, Danielle is breaking her promise to keep Chiara as well...

Angelbleu

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 02:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay my doctor is having a talk with Chiara....she can not say I-didn't-have-a-chance-to-compete one more time because my blood pressure cannot handle it....

Car54

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 02:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Does Sheryl Crowe have any "suck it up and deal" songs?