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Boberry

Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 04:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whit4you -- not only the HG's, but maybe some of us too....

C1mag

Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 04:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I can clear this all up... BB had NOTHING to do with this. You have to read the archives. When the all went to bed last night it was set... Roddy was going. Marcellus started to tell Amy that Roddy was going and he was voting to evict him as well and she FREAKED out. Literally threw a tantrum. They had a fight bigger than the one with Josh. Just read the archives. After 2 hours of trying to convince her that Roddy needed to go he gave up and said... Alright I will vote to evict Chiara if that is what you want but tell Dani that she has to live up to her promise to you and vote her out also. Amy wants only one thing... Chiara gone and Roddy to herself. Marc even said it was completely selfish and insulting to play the game that way but she said, if Dani wants Roddy out tell her to get hoh and do it herself. I had to agree with her on that issue. So that is why Roddy is staying. No one planted a seed, no one manipulated. Amy had a classic fit and got what she wanted. And the game plays on... It was all up too Dani today to either go ahead and evict Roddy or cave and she decided to cave even though she knows that Amy, Marc and Roddy will gun for her. It's the STUPIDEST decision but its clouded by her paranoia.

Spunky

Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 04:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, it could be really "scandalous" (BB term) if the DR favors one hg over another and that you can't see. They could give hints to some and none to others.

I read almost at the beginning of the game that Amy was the producers' favorite and somehow the fact that she's back could be linked.

So, I'm okay if BB changes the rules but to favor one over another it's morally wrong.

Crossfire

Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 05:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, actually, I blame M still, she was throwing a major babyfit, sulking and ignoring all logic, then M in all his exasperated wisdom threw up his arms and told Amy to go talk to D in the morning, and that was exactly what she(A) did.

If M had not said that, she would probably still just be sitting around today feeling sorry for herself.

M planted the darn seed 100%.

Car54

Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 05:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL, I was setting up a new store and away from the board all day. When I came back this evening and saw what had transpired, my first thought was..."Oh NO! Does C1Mag know?"

Whit4you

Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 05:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't see how anyone can say that BB is directy responsible for Amy's return - I thought for sure Lisa would vote Eric back in (good move not to) and that Jason would probably vote Eric back in (good move not to) BB didn't twist their arms to vote her back in!

Car54

Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 05:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What does morals have to do it. They need to produce an interesting TV show 3 times a week.

It is their house, their network, their tv show, their $500,000....and these players signed up to play by those rules.

Is it moral that Amy got a second chance after she accrued more eviction votes than anyone else in the game and Josh does not get a chance?

They get to do whatever they want and if helping the game along with some leading questions helps, I feel sure they will do it.

Keiffer

Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 05:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
WHit you rally thought Jason would vote Eric back in? I could never see that. Eric's eviction was still fresh in his mind, and he was one of four people who were responsible for him leaving. Add to that he (Jason) depending on which side you are on think he either mislead Eric and Roddy, or just out right lied to them. WHy would he ask for that head ache? No way that Eric gets four votes against any of the four people that were evicted. If anything was sure as for how the producers set that up it was that Eric was never getting back into the game.

Keiffer

Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 05:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
WHit you really thought Jason would vote Eric back in? I could never see that. Eric's eviction was still fresh in his mind, and he was one of four people who were responsible for him leaving. Add to that he (Jason) depending on which side you are on think he either mislead Eric and Roddy, or just out right lied to them. WHy would he ask for that head ache? No way that Eric gets four votes against any of the four people that were evicted. If anything was sure as for how the producers set that up it was that Eric was never getting back into the game.

Ruditoo

Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 05:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason voted Eric and Amy Out! Most considered tht Eric Roddy combo the strongest and to be avoided all cost. Even Jason expected ORD in place as soon as Roddy was gone. Why not since Roddy put Amy up and out. The mine boggles...

Whit4you

Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 06:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer of course I really thought that - he voted Amy out once AND agreed to vote her out a 2nd time (ORD) so why would I assume he'd want her BACK in only to vote her out a 2nd time? That'd make very little sense.. since he BELIEVED that the one in would be voted out via ORD - it'd make more sense for him to vote Eric back in to get back on Rod/Chia's good side...

Kellee

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Whit...if Eric had been the one to come back in ORD would be out the window so to speak..there was no way if Eric was the one to come back would Roddy be slamming the door on him...they would dance a jig and say to heck with the rest of you we are back in power..so for Jason to vote Eric back in...well it would have been not to his best intrest

Lurknomore

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry gang but I think some folks have lost perspective here. I may not be old enough (PHEW) to recall the scandal with the $64,000 question but I read about it and saw the movie. You can't make rules, appear like a fair game show, then manipulate the outcome.

And as for the "who cares if BB is manipulating them," I for one do. They removed OUR voice, the fans, for that reason. So what gives them the right? They said no banners so the game would be played on total fair ground by the participants, or some such BS. Well sorry, but I expect them to honor that as well. If WE (TRUE fans of this game unlike them who are fans of ratings) can't chime in, they certainly shouldn't.

My first paragraph deals with fraud, misrepresentation, rule breaking, and manipulation (Goddessatlaw or whoever lawyerguy is forgot is name am I wrong??). My second my personal feelings.

Bastable

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh no... is the board going to start going on and on about lawsuits AGAIN? C'mon kids! The courtroom is the first refuge of a scoundrel.

Lurknomore

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bastable...folks are saying it's just hunky dorey for BB to mess with the game. My point is morally and legally it is NOT right.

And forgive me for bringing up a VALID point for consideration. This board goes on and on (AND ON) about many many things. I'd respectufully suggest if some of them don't interest you, you do what I do...ignore that thread and find one that does.

Jagger

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 09:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think BB does control the game to a certain extent, they don't tell people who to vote off, but they do ask the hgs certain questions in the DR about events in the house that they may not have been aware of, thus giving them an idea of what is happening. From hearing various convos with Amy , I think they have told her more of what is going on in the game than others were told. She has slipped up several times and mentioned things that went on in the house when she was gone, and how they told her about the revolving door system the other hgs had waiting for her on her return.

Is it fair, I don't know, they probably have something in their contract that says bb can do what they want when they want.

Whit4you

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 07:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lurk I think it depends on the contract they sign. If they sign a contract that says "anything goes within your physical safety' then yes they do have the right to control this game. I do know they have to provide for the HG's safety but other then that I believe the contract specifically allows BB to do anything BB chooses too and they have a choice to sign that contract or not.