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Wcv63

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 09:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I paid 24.95 for the "package". I agree that the advertised 4 feeds is a fabrication on the part of CBS. If anyone gets a reply back from AS or CBS (not form letter masquerading as a reply but an actual reply) please, please let us know. I am convinced that these emails are never read.

Ellenkats

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 09:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for email address, I just emailed my complaint, errors and all:

>>I have about decided to cancel my subscription to your Big Brother live feeds. It's ridiculous that most of the time you have 2 and 3 feeds on the same thing, 4th on nothing (someone combing hair, washing dishes, etc). But that's not bad enough. You have a no singing rule and if anyone sings it's 'front of the house' and lousy BB theme song. Two probs: 1st -- why not just cut the audio? 2nd -- why cut all four feeds off instead of just the one/ones involved? Same with houseguests who speak of people who didn't sign waivers -- why not cut audio (and only cut audio on the actual feed in question)? Further, we hear "after the fact' discussions between the houseguests of things that have happened in the house that we viewers never saw. Why are we missing all the interesting happenings? That is what we paid to see. Duh. Why are you gypping us? I paid 25 bucks for this and I am not getting my money's worth. This is weird marketing to deliberately offend your viewers. I thought 24/7 meant just that. Unless things change quickly, I plan on getting my money back and never watching future Big Brother programs again. From what I read on various message boards online, I am not alone.

Angered, <<

Ellenkats

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 09:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wcv63 -- I paid for the 24.95 dealie too. Sounds like we paid more than most here. Just my luck. :-(

Tabbyking

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 09:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i did cancel mine and never even looked again even though i had 4 or 5 of my 'free 14 days' free. total waste of time and money. this is really the worst show. they might as well call it the 'arnie making up the game as it goes along show'!

Bmh

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 09:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I also payed 24.95..lol

I am a little disappointed in the live feeds too..but what can we do?..unless we get a message back from real or CBS all we can do is complain and complainin to each-other doens't help the problem..but if by some chance if anyone of you get a response back about ur complainin let us all know!

Ellenkats

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 09:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bmh -- well, we can let off steam and feel like we did something proactive. It's worth lowering blood pressure, yes? :-)

Spunky

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 09:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They can use all the FOTH they want but make them free and no one will complain about.
What Real doesn't understand is that they would have had many many more net viewers if they didn't ask for the credit card number during the promo period. Many feels that they shouldn't give that kind of information if they just want to try and see if they like them or not. If they are pleased with the feeds then they will give the credit card number. Their greed backfired.
I hope someone will tell them that.

Ellenkats

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 09:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree they shouldn't require a credit card for the free promo. Last year I couldn't get them to stop billing my card after BB2 ended. I ended up being a subscriber for about 5 months after numerous calls and real.com promises. :-( I can't be the only one who had that problem! I finally had to get my credit card issuer to change my number and issue me a new card. That's why this year I opted for a one-time 24.95 charge. I *hope* one-time means one-time.

Ladybug007

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 05:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I havent paid for anything yet. Ive been watching the feeds since the first day. Nice!!

Lauram

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 07:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Whoever got the 14+30 free days is lucky. When I went to sign up, Real told me that they were told that too many people on the internet heard about that so they were not going to offer it. I should sign up for the free 14, then when I go to cancel, they will give me an additional 30.

Yesterday, I went to cancel since my 14 days were up, and asked then about extending my free period, she said, "We aren't offering that this week. It's kind of a survey to see how many people we can get to re-sign." (Gee- coincidence that This week happens to be 14 days into BB)

Silly of then, because I would have paid the subscription after 30 more days. But I hate to be treated unfairly!!

BTW there is a thread talking about this in the everything technical area.

Keiffer

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 05:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
FOur feeds of the Marcellas and Amy show. Is ther no other peoplein the house right now?

BTW, you know if Chia, or Lisa talked about the other HG"s the way these two I wouldn't be able to post on here because the anti cute girls threads would fill the web site.

Erina75

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 05:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here is a perfect example to support why I started this thread: In the last 30 minutes there has been a shot of L&E alone in the room hugging and talking and whatnot, then all of a sudden...FOTH...come back from FOTH and there is a shot of C&R alone in their room cuddling in bed and being vert flirty with one another...then CUT again...then it goes the the bathroom where we have D, Ja, and Jo...then it cuts to ALL CAMS on M&A in HoH room for the longest time. We missed everything that went on in 3 other rooms...I wish I could just ring CBS's neck!!!

Tracyck

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 05:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
On the UK BB, they are certainly allowed to sing, and are even given singing as tasks. Does anyone know why they are not so paranoid about this there?

Between the fact that UKBB only has 2 days to go to the end, and that USBB feeds are ridiculous, I spend my time watching UKBB and catching up on USBB here.

I e-mailed CBS last week to complain about the lousy FOH tune - like many here, not sure that this stuff really works, but worth a shot.

I pay the $9.99 a month, and will probably keep the feeds simply because I can't stand the TV show - taped, out of date and not particularly indicative of what really goes on in the house.

That's my 2 cents - will go back to lurking now :)

Tooty

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 05:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I cancelled my live feeds this morning. I had the 14 free days. I feel sorry for people who paid for this. This is not 24/7 neither is it uncensored. I call that false advertising.

Cmc209

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 05:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am really PI$$ED about the feeds! ALL the feeds are on Lisa & Josh! I can slightly hear voices in the background which is clearly other houseguests chatting away - why can't we hear/see this?

AHHHHHHHHH!!!

What are those techies who work behind the scene doing? Someone needs to start doing his/her job or get fired! Maybe someone should e-mail Arnie and let him know he's spending money on lazy employees.

Erina75

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 05:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
GOOD POINT TOOTY!!!!!

Freshlilly

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 05:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have noticed that they will cut to the FOTH when people sing or talk about certain movies. Tonya seems to cause most of the FOTH for some reason. Everytime I hear her talk it's FOTH.

CBS is being way too strict this year just for their ratings or whatever.

Erina75

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 05:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Don't forget people, you HAVE to write to CBS and RealOne so that they know how people are feeling. I just finished ANOTHER e-mail to CBS and copied RealOne on it...you have to complain to both of them and don't hold anything back! They are in this together!!

I am so frustrated I could just scream! Oh, what the hell...

AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

Whit4you

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 05:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well if you don't think 3 months of entertainment as shabby as it is at times is worth it...how about asking for a refund and NOT watching the next 8 weeks?

I mean I understand that it's frustrating - trust me I watch it too but honestly ... concidering you and your family would spend more to go to ONE movie for 2 hours entertainment... I think you'll all get your 2 hours over the next few months.

Personally I'm really pleased with the camera angels and the way they really SHOW who is talking this year... last year they didnt at all...they'd focus on one of the group as 3 or 4 people talk and you'd have to figure out the other voices and stuff... this year it's like watching a TV show the way they cut to the talker and stuff.....

But ya it is frustrating personally the way they are leaving out so much for us but ... just think about the time put into say a normal movie and the 60 million they make off the viewers as opposed to the half million (or whatever it might be...) that they make off of us...

I'm sorry don't get me wrong I do realize the frustration but you get more honey with sugar then you do with vinegar and for what it's worth $$ wise for them they might just decide to cut us net viewers off all togheter rather then try and please us ALL - since they are giving us 3 months of fun for less then the average cost for a family for a 2 hour movie...

Floresmama

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 07:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just emailed ASPProductions.com the following letter:

First of all I want to commend you guys on your casting of this years show. I love some of them and hate others but at least for the most part they are very interesting. Good job.

Now for the bad news. This year the camera feeds are worse than last year. Most if not all the time the 4 feeds which I am paying 9.95 per month for contain only two different camera feeds(angles) and most of the time all of the feeds are on the same group when there is other stuff going on elsewhere. I know this because I will be watching a conversation that is really interesting and then the camera will switch to someone playing cards or chess with little or no conversation at all.

I have paid for 4 live feeds I would like it if there were 4 different things to choose from. I know that as the amount of houseguests shrinks then sometimes all of the stuff is happening in one location but with 12 people and now 11 that is not the case. Please see if there is anything that can be done to remedy this.

Last but not least. Once again the question about penalty nominations and PB&J rears its ugly head. Two days in a row Eric has eaten a Peanut Butter & Banana sandwich. At least one of the times the sandwich was made for him by Lisa. So my question is why are they both not up for penalty nominations. If the rule stands the same as last year she is just as guilty for making/offering it as he is for eating it.

I would appreciate your kindly looking into the resolution of the above matters. Thank you in advance.

Shelley Flores
FloresMama@socal.rr.com

Zeyna

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 08:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
11 people in the house - all 4 feeds on Dani and Jason playing cards... Is this happening more and more or is it me??

Tabbyking

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 08:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
it's all the time...one of the reasons i gave up the live feed once the free period ended.

Ellenkats

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 08:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Zeyna --- Earlier it was all four feeds on Amy/Mar again. And it's so deliberate. What bugs me almost as much as missing the various happenings in the house is knowing the cam operators are just laughing their butts off for having so much control over us net watchers. I accepted cam 1 and 2 were the same -- but all four??? Gimme a break -- I PAID for this.

Sam222

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 08:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I went to the U.K. big brother live feeds once last year and they had a thing where you could follow a certain houseguest on one cam all day, they would change it everyday, the rest of the cams would be on the rest of the house (yes they actually used all 4) I thought that is was a great idea I wish they would do it here (like tht would ever happen!)

Goddess146

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 10:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Every time I brought up the live feeds today, it was either on the FOTH or the FOTH came up within a minute or so. I just brought them up a minute ago and they were FOTH.

To make it even worse, the live feed reports here on some other sites are very sparse. I get the feeling that either nothing is happening or not many people are watching or both.

I think the producers are trying to drive us away from the live feeds. It looks like the are being successful.