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Jazzcat

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 12:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
roddy vs marcellus or amy cause as of right now either is a vote for roddy.

oh please get rid of roddy!!!!!!!

Fabnsab

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 12:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, guys, be prepared for another aggravating week because my prediction is that jason WILL NOT nominate Roddy. He will nominate Marcellas and Gerry. I do not believe Jason will completely slap Roddy in the face. He had the perfect out this week because Rod and Chi knew he had to vote against someone so they wouldn't think he was being untrustworthy. This week, he will not show Roddy his true colors. It would be the most backstabbing thing Jason has done, considering he has led Rod to believe they were in cahoots. I don't think he has it in him. Sorry, all. I do believe I am right. Please let me be wrong.

Sanfranjoshfan

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 12:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
For all Dani knew, Roddy was the only person that had the right answer....she did NOT throw the comp.

Jazzcat

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 12:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
fabnsab, i dont agree. if jason doesn't nominate roddy, HE will find himself on the block next!

Aaronl5

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 12:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Roddy vs Amy...Roddy out the door.....noone will veto him......

Sanfranjoshfan

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 12:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
But Roddy has said to Danielle (who reported it directly to Jason, of course) that Jason lied right to his face about his Eric vote. Roddy already knows that Jason cannot be trusted 100% in the confines of this game.

I also believe that Roddy understands that Jason can be trusted as a friend because Jason is a good person....but he also realizes that this is a game and that Jason is very aware that it is a game. Jason understands the same thing about Roddy. Roddy and Jason are two players that know how to separate their emotions from the fact that this is a GAME.

Wcv63

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 12:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree SanFran...

Jazzcat

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 12:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
the only smart thing for jason to do is to insure roddy's departure next week.

if he keeps with his alliance to dani and they are the last two standing, he will be a shoo-in to win. imho

Spunky

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 08:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm glad to see that the majority still thinks Roddy will be up again.
Why am I feeling less certain about it? Most of you are confident that Jason will "not hesitate" (his own words) to nominate Roddy "if given a chance" (his own words).
Why am I still feeling less certain about it??

Oh why, oh why do we all want Roddy out so bad? What do we see in him that Amy and Marcella don't. Are we maybe making too much of him? It seems to me that he's not very good at challenges. Is it just his "smooth operator" tactics we don't like?? You can hardly blame him for that, he's just trying to play the game as he sees fit. Was it his treatment of Chiara? Well, I think he's the one who should be embarrassed. Shallow Roddy, came out pretty bad on tv lately.
So, what could convince Jason to put Roddy up if he will act indipendently from Danielle.

Maris

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 08:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason puts up Roddy and Lisa. Amy wins POV and vetoes Roddy. Jason puts up Marcellas. Roddy, Amy, Gerry vote Lisa out. Danni is screwed she goes next week. How about that?

Bidasea

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 08:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Pleeeese put up Marc and Amy...Dani, Lisa, Gerry, and Roddy vote out Marc. Bye Bye..Then the next week out with Amy..I would much rather watch Roddy, Dani, Jason, Gerry, and Jason plot against each other.Roddy may be a lot of things, but at least he doesn't spit out vile and ugly personal barbs against the others.

Nutsy

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 08:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris - I liked your other idea better: Dani vs. Roddy - let the house decide.

Lisataz

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 08:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think he's going to nominate Roddy and Marcellas. Danielle is already suspicious of an R/M alliance so he's a threat to either not evict R or to use POV to save him. And Jason said that if Roddy stays in the house, he might as well give him the 500K.

Shrike3000

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 08:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris , why would Jason ever put up Lisa? He would be totally screwing himself. Yeah, if that would happen, Dani goes next week, Jason goes week after! That would be idiotic and will not happen.

Ellyanne777

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 08:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay here goes...
Jason will put up Marcellas and Gerry. Amy will win the veto power and get Marcellas off, Jason will put up Roddy in his place...or Dani will get veto power and to save face with M she will veto him and Jason will put up Roddy.

Theo17

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 09:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
jason wont put up lisa or danny. that makes no sense. Its out of the 4 roddy, gerry, amy, marcy. I'm betting roddy and amy.
When are nominations? are they today? I cant wait

Maris

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 09:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Theo, it will be Roddy and Amy. Makes the most sense.

Theo17

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 09:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
maris if you want roddy out it does. amy was sure vote for him. If marcy wins pov even if he used it it would be to get amy off and then gerry goes up. Now when are nominations???????

Hippyt

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 09:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Isn't is all sad all of us,and even the people in the house view Gerry as so disposable?! Just let him hang around til everyone dangerous is gone,then it's his turn.
I think Jason will put Roddy up with Amy,too. But,I don't feel as sure of my picks as I have in the past. Jason is a lot harder to figure than most of the people in the house.(Meaning he's smarter,and plays a good game!)

Pesto

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 09:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
After reading these posts, I don't think Roddy is out of the woods yet, and he will realize this after noms.

If the goal this week is to remove Roddy, then Jas puts Rod up and chooses the next person based on the scenario least likely to result in a veto for Rod. What the hell is that scenario?

The person most likely to veto R is Amy. So...

1)If its Rod and Amy up, then she will want to be saved (maybe) so she won't win POV unless she is sure noone is going to use it (which she could be persuaded of I think). In this case, she definitely vetoes Rod out-of-spite and he stays. Also, Mar could use veto to save Rod and think that Gerry will be put up in his place, thereby saving R and A (in his mind). It doesn't matter if its true or not, Mars just needs to think this and veto Rod. Also, in this scenario, Jas gets M and A mad! at Jas for the final vote. In this scenario, R is not gone for sure.

2) If its R and M up, Amy may still veto R but its less likely IMO because she would feel bad about leave M on block. This scenario, Mar and Amy are mad! at Jas for the final vote. Again, if Mars thinks the veto will not be used, and he thinks he is going out, he could veto Rod. In this scenario, R is not gone for sure.

3) If its R and G up, M or A can still veto R, but at their peril because their buddy will be put up in his place. Amy would veto R, if R convinces her that Mars would survive against G in the vote. All they need is one more vote (Lisa?). They don't have it now, but Roddy just needs to convince her they do. In this scenario, R is not gone for sure. M and A are not as mad at Jason, although they'll still be mad :)

So I say, put up R and G and pray that Jason can keep the peace a little longer with M and A for final vote purposes.

Whew!!

So, what to do what to do? :)

Maris

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 09:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the nominations are in the afternoon around 2pm but I could be wrong.

Keiffer

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 09:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Has anyone seen a conversation with Jason and any other HG regarding hisnomminations? I read that he asked Danny last night and she just old him to do what is in his heart? No other talks, or anything besides a that little bit? No Lisa, or Roddy talking to him at all?

Is the level of respect for Jason keeping the HG's from coming to him, or is it that they assume things he is thinking?

Theo17

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 09:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
roddy will come to him. He already has tried to weasle his way in to the hoh twice.

Crazydog

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 09:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think if you want Roddy out you should put up Roddy and Gerry. Gerry is the only person who would veto a Roddy nom and he won't use the veto if he himself is up because that would likely mean he is out.

If it were Roddy and Amy, Amy would not veto Roddy because it would almost certainly mean Marc goes up. Marc would not veto Roddy because then Gerry goes up, and Amy likely goes as revenge for trying to save Roddy. The same happens if Roddy is up against Marc.

The only chance I see for Roddy is if it is Roddy v. Amy, and Marc (or Gerry) realizes he is better off in the game with Roddy than Amy. Roddy is better at running the game than the rest of them, and will be the target to draw all the fire. Unfortunately, Marc is too caught up with Amy and Gerry only wants to eliminate the alpha male.

Speaking of which, I thought it was funny Gerry referred to himself as an alpha male, because clearly he is not.

Maris

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 09:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I caught that too Crazy dog. I laughed when he said he was an alpha male. I am curious though, why do you think Gerry would Veto Roddy? I dont see that at all.