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Theo17

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 09:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
baily danni has always told the 2 of them the final 3. it would be outright dumb to say anything else when all 3 have been working together. That said is that roddys honesty? i lied because danni lied? Sorry that doesnt work. Either he is a liar and no better than anyone or he is a phony for making out like he is above it all

Wcv63

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 09:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have an intense dislike for Roddy because of the passive aggressive way he plays the game and plays people. I don't like his controlling attitude nor do I care for people who proclaim themselves to be "awesome".

I don't like how he has managed to condescend to his fellow hgs and how he patronizes them in even casual conversation.

I don't like the way he has used emotion and false sincerity as a weapon nor do I care for the way he has pointed out the flaws of others and taken credit for "making them a better person."

I don't like the way he has to upstage anyone else's turn to be in the spotlight by turning the attention back to himself, i.e. the blasted wooby incident.

I don't like Roddy. I'll never like Roddy. I won't apologize for not liking Roddy nor can he possibly do anything to ever change my mind.

Itscrazy

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 09:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't hate Roddy! He is playing a great game, even the "haters" have to admit that. He's still there;) With me, I always like to root for the underdogs and Roddy has not been that from day one. Lisa and Gerry are underdogs, I never thought that they would make it this far. Since Lisa was the first HOH and nominated Marcellas and then Amy, I'm surprised she wasn't retaliated against. And with Gerry....hmmm.....need I say more? LOL Marcellas was an underdog but he is no longer one. Danielle might very well be an underdog now, so I'll start to root for her. Amy seems to still be an underdog because no one has said they'd take her to the end or not that I know of. I don't think Jason was ever one and he has never seemed to be in danger of being voted out. Roddy from the very start has been cocky and condescending to the other houseguests. I'll never root for him to win but if he does, I won't be unhappy, he deserves it for playing the best game.

Theo17

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 09:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
wcv i liked roddy in the beginning but once I saw his true colors I couldnt stand him. he even has many on these boards snowed. He is a very low person. Not because of playing the game but because of how he treats people. any big surprise he has never been married? By the way he doesnt look 30. I'm 35 and look much younger than him.

Whit4you

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 09:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wvc - now tell us how you really feel....:)


Seriously though Wvc - keep in mind this is a game.. and a very intense one at that. Roddy seems to have ALOT of friends on the outside so much of what you see in here may not be the 'real' roddy. But the Roddy determined to win 500 g's .. people have done a heck of alot worse in this world for 500 g's then what he's doing in this house. :)

How many people each year are killed over less money...etc...ya know? We had a pizza delivery guy killed over 50 bucks just down the street from me a few yrs back. My point being - what he's doing to win 500 g's is not that bad concidering what many others would do for 500 g's. Watching "fear factor' lately is getting unbearable..the things they do for 50 g's...sheesh.

Drpepper

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 09:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I to agree with Culrlq, Muse and Whit's post, and I do realize it is a game. To lie when confronted in this game at times is part of this game, and voting to win, rather than your heart at times. I understand all of the game twist that is being done to win. But, at the same time, you do see part of the real person, and Marcellasfan hit the nail on the head!

Bailey

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 09:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Theo, I've heard Dani say to Jason she wants him in the final 2 with her.. and I've heard her tell Lisa the same thing. The only time I've heard her say the "final 3" is when she's talking to both of them together.
But my point is.. it's a game.. and gathering alliances is part of it. I don't blame either of them for playing it the best they can, especially now that's it's getting close to the end.

What555456

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 09:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have a good friend who likes to say "You don't have to break other people's furniture to make yours look good."

I think much of the attacks on this Board are people doing just this. In order to support the one they want to win they tear down others.

I suspect there is not as much dislike on this Board towards Roddy as there are people who want to make him look bad so others will look good.

To me, Roddy is one of the main reasons this has been one heck of a good season of BB. Yes, he can manipulate with the best of 'em. And yes, he is arrogant at times. And yes, he does play on people's weaknesses to get himself ahead. So? No one has to give in to him. No one has to agree with him. If the others do not want to be manipulated by him, they need not be.

I don't really like Roddy, nor do I dislike him. But I do respect the way he is playing this game. And, assuming his long discussion with Jason this afternoon is what kept him from being nominated, one has to respect him even more.

Theo17

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 09:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
baily my initial answer was to another poster calling on dannis bs. I dont like double standards where its bs for danni but playing the game for roddy. I would vote for everyone that has been in that house other than kiki over roddy. I despise his self rightous attitude. he seems to do the same things as everyone else but play the victim to them all. anyone that plays strategy against him is a scumbucket according to him. Sorry i just dont fall for his act. He is a convincing victim and liar at best

Marv

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 09:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Fess up guys. We hate Roddy because he is everything we want to be. Handsome, great physique, smart, witty, very funny, VERY persuasive, doesn't clam up - brings issues up front, well traveled, (did I say persuasive).

**marv slowly pries his beer-bellied, horn-rimmed coke bottle bespeckled, middle-aged, balding body out from his computer chair where he's sat for the past 4 hours watching Big Brother live feeds and reading bulletin boards since he got off work from his dead-end cubicle job to go throw on a ratty T-shirt and go out to watch the Ya Ya Sisterhood ------------ alone.**

Firebird05

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Theo17 everything you say about Roddy is true as is what others have said but the fact is the dumb house guest keep buying it.

So they must not hate Roddy. Whatever it is he has doesn't translate on screen to me but he's got them.

Roddy most likely will continue to snow them to the end. If they buy it stupid them.

I really wanted him to walk out the door last week despite my dislike for Chia. I thought that Jason winning HOH was a sure bet to get him , they blew it.

Horses patuti or not he got them.
Still I really don't like him and if he wins I won't be happy. Don't hate just not my kind of guy.

Theo17

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
firebird I dont hate roddy. i just hate to see somebody as self rightous and hypocritical get rewarded for it. He might play the game but that doesnt mean I have to respect him. I honestly would be happy for any of the 12 other than roddy or kiki to win. I think all the other 10 had flaws but were good people. I cant say the same for roddy or kiki

Drpepper

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Marv, I would take you any day over Roddy, looks fade and his hair is already leaving, so all that is left is yuk. Besides, I saw Ya Ya Sisterhood --------alone too :)

Curlyq

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
One more point regarding the "it's a game and Dani does it too" argument. I think what really bothers me is that when this game is over there will be more than one player walking away feeling worse about themselves than when they came in because of the things Roddy has said to them. With Dani they'd walk away just kicking themselves for being snowed. She may lie to them (and I don't approve of that either), but she doesn't play by making them feel unlikeable. With the glaring exception of how she talks about Gerry, she doesn't usually get people to do her bidding by making them feel like their very personality is unacceptable.

I think that's where Roddy crosses the line for me. His actions will have consequences that go beyond the game. I could get over being lied to quicker than I could get over being made to feel like I'm someone who's awful to be around.

Itscrazy

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Marv! I'll go see YaYa Sisterhood with you. I've read the book but haven't seen the movie. Just don't sit too close....hee hee

Wcv63

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whit, I agree that I can't possibly KNOW Roddy's RL personality. I also confined all my remarks to "in the game." However, he has divulged "life philosphies" and "personal beliefs" that are not just repugnent to me but also downright scary.

What555, I'm surprised at your attitude toward Roddy only because I read a post from you the other day saying that playing the victim isn't something that you admire. Roddy has done that in this game. He has claimed to be the victim of Chiara, Tonya, and Josh. It shifts and changes depending on who he is talking to but it is definitely part of his strategy.

Don't need to break up his furniture to make my own look good, thank you very much. My furniture may be old. It may be shabby. It may have a few miles on it. But it's solid, dependable and gets the job done.

Marv: Ummmmm...no. I don't aspire to be like Roddy nor would I particularly like myself if I were in any way compared to him.

Bbrules4ever

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
why I dislike Roddy

1.He is Incredibly VAIN...if the housguest were smart they would see this is his achilles heel, and play up to it.

2.He is very Insincere....way way overboard into unctuous smarminess.....sweet like sacharrine.

3.Devilishly Manipulative


I think all the housguests are good people of course.....but for the purposes of this game Roddy is the villain and has to go!!!

Loppes

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I want Roddy in and Dani out.
Lon

Firebird05

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy has cross all the lines I use to gage character and has failed at all of them.

He is down right scummy. But why is it that these people buy it?

I would have told him to <> off a long time ago.
He is so obvious but still they fall for it I don't get it.

If he wins the worst person won but the HG have no one to blame but their selves. They had the knowledge, they had the opportunity , they failed.
It makes me ill.

Theo17

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
will (slime) won last year also. at least will was funny though. I dont see anything to like about this guy. i would vote will ahead of this guy every time.

Eden

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't hate him. I don't like him. He's playing a great game. But I don't enjoy watching him manipulate people. Which is interesting, cause I really get a kick out of watching Danielle work on someone. I guess it's his sanctimonious "high road" approach that turns me off, it's just not as much fun to watch. Why don't these people see "he doth protest too much"? He's forcing everyone to accept HIS approach to the game and they are buying into it. He's counting on the fact that most people's basic nature is honorable and then working it to the hilt. I'll give him credit. He is good. But I won't root for him.

Saph036

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
me thinks that some of that roddy fairy dust has made it on to the boards... ;)

Firebird05

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Will and Roddy are no comparison. Will told them point blank he was lying to everyone. They chose to believe him anyway or at least tolerate him,

They did that because Will was actully fun to be around and he more often built people up rather than tear them down.

He even tried to be nice to Nicole at her worst.

Roddy tears everyone down. They are nothing compared to him, in his eyes anyway.

If I was Will I would be appalled by the comparison . They are nothing alike.

Theo17

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
firebird I agree. He makes will look likebale and almost honest. Its like slime to the power of one and slime to the power of 10. I'm glad roddy lives in california. I'm sure they have a high state income tax. as it is $500k after federal taxes is only around $335k so lets hope the state tax means he takes home less than 300k. does anyone know the state tax braket percentage in california for 500k?

Marcellasfan

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey! We don't want him. Send him back to New Jersey (or wherever he's from)