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Uhoh

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 01:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i don't know where else to post this - but listening to this jason and gerry convo reminds me why i tune out mostly whenever jason is talking.

jason speaks in phrases (rarely sentences) peppered liberally with 'you know's' and other fillers. it's exhausting to listen to.

Maris

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 01:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I dont consider my comments as bashing Gerry. I dont care for him however, Gerry is campaigning hard which includes trashing Amy and Marcellas. I am not passing judgement other than Gerry is like all the other nominees and will do what he can to save himself. Gerry does not walk on water

I have expressed my disgust at his comments about Marcellas as a gay black man. He has made these comments more than once and in fact when I mentioned it yesterday on the boards, I was called a liar. I dont consider Gerry evil but then again I dont consider any of the HGs evil. They are in a game and playing a game. Whether you like the way they do it or not, I dont think any of them are evil. Everyone likes some HGs more than others.

Kiersten_Love

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 01:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, do you not see the topic you are doing your bashing under? Or do you not understand the topic at all?

If you want to bash, create a new topic and write your heartout..but don't do it here. Thanks

Maris

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 07:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I do believe I underestand what the topic of this thread is about. This is a thread about "Gerry being much quieter than usual and seeming very sad" . My posts are about Gerry not being quite so sad or even quiet. I was writing about Gerry making the pitch to Jason to stay in the game and his pitch included many things including speaking about other HGs and I have expressed my opinions about that. Every action that I have described is the absolute truth . Having a negative opinion about what Gerry is saying when he is not so quiet does not constitute bashing.

Bmh

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 08:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I dont like Gerry either...never have..I agree Maris..Gerry isn't perfect either..and just like the other hg's trash him...he trashes Amy and Marcie..especially when he is on the block..the guy is just like everyone else..people need to stop putting Gerry and Jason on a pedastal because the are so called "nicer" than everyone else..Jason is the only person that hasn't trashed anyone..but Gerry is just like the rest..I cant wait till he is gone this week..I have been waiting for this for a while..

Seamonkey

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 08:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe I'm wrong, but didn't Gerry say in his first farewell to Amy that SHE reminded him of his daughter? (He definitely said it to an evicted female, and I seriously doubt that it was Tonya and same with Lori, so it had to be Amy.

One thing that Gerry blew was when Jason asked if Gerry would use POV to change his nominations if he put up Roddy and Amy, Gerry wouldn't commit. He said he "doubted" he would use it. I think that was one key factor in his being where he is now.

(I guess campaigning wasn't allowed for Amy and Josh but was ok for anyone else)

Anyway, don't expect Gerry to go without a fight but his trashing brings him down to a level that surprises me for someone his age (which is still younger than mine) who is fond of talking about the deep seated problems of the younger hg.. I'm guessing he's got some real issues himself.

Seamonkey

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 08:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Reading backwards in this thread.. I cannot imagine ANY reason for Gerry to lean on the shower door, look over and down, while Marcellas is in there showering. And then actually ask if it made Marcellas uncomfortable?

The girls invited the guys to look (in the shaving cream bikini event) and even opened the door to facilitate same.

Gerry keeps saying that Marcellas is uncomfortable being gay, or uncomfortable having a straight male friend.. well if he is saying that and believes it, then wouldn't you think he wouldn't stare and look over the shower door?

Maris

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 08:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
And Gerry goes out singing:

I'll never be your beast of burden
My back is broad but it's a hurting
All I want is for you to make love to me
I'll never be your beast of burden
I've walked for miles my feet are hurting
All I want is for you to make love to me

Am I hard enough
Am I rough enough
Am I rich enough
I'm not too blind to see

I'll never be your beast of burden
So let's go home and draw the curtains
Music on the radio
Come on baby make sweet love to me

Am I hard enough
Am I rough enough
Am I rich enough
I'm not too blind to see

Oh little sister
Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, girl
You're a pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty girl
Pretty, pretty
Such a pretty, pretty, pretty girl
Come on baby please, please, please

I'll tell ya
You can put me out
On the street
Put me out
With no shoes on my feet
But, put me out, put me out
Put me out of misery

Yeah, all your sickness
I can suck it up
Throw it all at me
I can shrug it off
There's one thing baby
That I don't understand
You keep on telling me
I ain't your kind of man

Ain't I rough enough, ooh baby
Ain't I tough enough
Ain't I rich enough, in love enough
Ooh! Ooh! Please

I'll never be your beast of burden
I'll never be your beast of burden
Never, never, never, never, never, never, never be


I don't need no beast of burden
I need no fussing
I need no nursing
Never, never, never, never, never, never, never be

Csnog

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 08:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The shower event happened weeks ago BUT BB made it look as though it just happened.

BB bashes Gerry almost as much as the other HG's.

I sincerly hope that they do NOT put an older person on with a bunch of 20 something meanies next year.

Gerry THOUGHT marcie was his one friend but has since learned he is not.

In CC's and other team sport locker rooms men shower all the time and don't have a problem with seeing one another.

Marcie has a problem with Gerry and his looks but if it had been Eric or Roddy or Jason talking to him over the shower door he would not have.

This was a small thing and BB blew it out of porportion just to trash Gerry again.

Lombadier

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 08:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, bashing is bashing no matter how you try and excuse it. I'm getting rather tired of your constant bashing of Gerry, but I guess that's your right. I also have the right to by and large skim over your posts once I realize it's yet another Gerry-hating post.

Csnog

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 08:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Marris, I think you should find another person to bash. Gerry has enough tormentors.

Who will you pick on Friday when Gerry is gone.

Everyone else has had their problems but you seem to have wanted Gerry to be locked in a room for the past 50 days and nights.

Marcie and the others can be a as mean and nasty as they want but Gerry has no rights in the house.

Spunky

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 08:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, he did have too many "free rides" (people going to him to make deals, instead of him going to them), but he has been quite decent with all of them and he deserves to be there more than Amy who got a second chance.

He should be safe this time, that Revolving Door business should work.

Earthmother

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I say there is a difference between someone referring to Marc as a gay black man than saying Marc is an ug*y, sk*nny, P**ver*, who makes me want to chop off his head. The latter of the two is bashing. Marc is a gay black man just ask him, he refers to himself that way all the time and it was never said in a hateful way.

How someone can justify what Marc says about others and the way he says it (especially about Gerry, because he is his main target) using this criteria is amazing to me. Makes me think there is serious dysfunction in fair play.

Miranda_Mamax2

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Seamonkey - it was Chiara that Gerry said was like his daughter. Back to lurking :)

Theo17

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
the problem with gerry is he is always reffering to marcy and his gayness. Do you see any of the other house guests identifying everyone by their color or sexuality. how many times does gerry call jason a white hetrosexual man or lisa a white hetrosexual woman. I dont like marcy but i think its really insulting of gerry to keep indentifying him in this way. These people have been together 2 months they know each other by names and dont have to be told by gerry day in and day out that marcy is black or gay.

Earthmother

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Gerry thinks he is bonding with Marc when he does this because this is the way Marc refers to himself 100 times a day. If it bothers Marc then he should tell Gerry that. He needs to friggin' grow up.

Theo17

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
EARTH GERRY WAS SAYING IT EVEN BEFORE THE VETO. GERRY ALSO MADE danni know he saw her as a black woman right from the get go. I do not dislike gerry. I'm just saying that black people do not like to be told constantly that you are with them by a white guy. Gerry sees color more than any other guest. As much as i dislike Roddy and kiki I have to give them credit and all the other hgs. They have never shown any racism. Gerry isnt a racist but his constant trying to show he likes black people shows that he sees them via color. It gets old and insulting real quickly. right from the start danni was insulted by it

Grannygrunt

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Earthmother, and doesn't it seem strange that if anyone else in the house, mainly Dani, says the same thing Mar just laughs about it. But when Gerry says something then it's time to call he11fire and brimstone down on Gerry. (And I'm not really of fan of Gerry, just hate to see him be unduly pointed out.)

Maris

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Is Gerry bonding when tells all the other HGs that Marc cant accept being gay? He talks about how Marc feels burndened by his being gay. Marcellas does not treat Gerry well but I am betting that Marcellas being inside those four walls with Gerry has a a pretty good sense of what Gerry really feels about gays. It is like Danni said last night she can tell who the racist is. There are undercurrents flying around there that on the outside you cant see but when you are in there I am sure they feel it and know it. Who is Gerry to tell people that Marcellas cant accept that he is gay and isnt happy about being gay. Maybe Gerry isnt happy about being straight and that is the issue.

Marcellas did tell Gerry to back off him when he was in the shower. Gerry is trying to mindf**k Marcellas and Marcellas knows it.

Jaysgal

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I still think that it would be a great deal if Jason strikes an agreement with Gerry to save Gerry and in turn Gerry must save him and not nominate him.

And then Jason put up Marcellas. Oh my God! I really want to see that at this point. I think it would work in the interest of Jason too. It's just that Gerry has to be willing to put up Danielle at some point, which I am not very sure thet he is willing to do. If he's not willing to do that, then he should go now.

Theo17

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm sorry I dont see any other houseguest calling people by their color and sexuality every single day. Some hgs might mention it here or there but its a constant deal with gerry.
Marcy my black gay friend you know I like black coffee.
Marcy my black gay friend you know I teach gay students
Marcy my black gay friend you know I have black nephews
marcy my black gay friend you know I think rupaul is just great.
Marcy my black gay friend would you mind if I ate a white donut?

I'm just being commical but enough is enough. I hate the way marcy treats this man but Gerry needs to eliminate the words black and gay from his vocabulary and just see Marcy as a man and danni as a woman.

Gina8642

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I haven't read all of Maris's posts, so I can't be sure. But I think it is perfectly fine for her to state she doesn't like Gerry.

What is wrong with that? I like Gerry and people are allowed to disagree with me. Maybe you guys should consider that you were bashing Maris.

Everyone should be allowed to state on these boards that they 'like a HG' or that they 'dislike an HG'. Just because their opinion does not match yours exactly, does not mean they are bashing!!

Bmh

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 11:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Gina..everybody has their own opinion..Maris has the right to say anything she wants..I dont like Gerry either..and I agree with most of what Maris said

Bmh

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 11:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Gina..everybody has their own opinion..Maris has the right to say anything she wants..I dont like Gerry either..and I agree with most of what Maris said

Hosewater

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 11:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris exclusively goes after Gerry and ignores the vile words and actions from the other houseguests.

It's rather hypocritical to point out only Gerry's shortcomings but nobody else's. You really think Gerry's the only one in there labeling people and making misstatements?

Nobody here thinks Gerry is perfect, but when you compare him to most of the other houseguests Gerry comes off looking pretty darn good. Again, that's IN COMPARISON. If it was Gerry all by himself, then yes there's a good argument for finding him distasteful. I do not find Gerry at all distasteful because I am comparing him to the other houseguests in the Big Brother world.

And Maris, this stuff about Gerry thinking Marcellas is uncomfortable being gay and that being gay is a burden... For heaven's sake, JASON probably has a lot to say about this as a fundamentalist Christian.

I have never met a Christian "true believer" (like Jason) who does not think that homosexuality is a burden and can be cured.

Jason is lying to himself and the others when he quietly "accepts" Marcellas' lifestyle.

Hey, remember last year... At least Kent had the cajones to tell Bunky he didn't agree with his lifestyle but liked him as a person.