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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Archives Two: ***DANI NEEDS TO WIN TO BUY A HOUSE***??NOT!!!!: Archive through August 26, 2002

Grooch

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 02:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey, Pcakes! Thanks! I didn't think it was that often.

Wargod

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 02:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just going to hop in here with my two cents. I'm not sure about anywhere else in the country but I know for a fact here in California you can get scholorships for your kids to go to private school. The school we looked into would pay up to the full tuition depending on the financial situation of the family. Also, discounts are given to families who have more than one kid enrolled in the school. Just wanted to point out that in California at least, you don't have to have a ton of money to send your kids to private school.

Second, I listened to Danielle and Gerry this morning. She was not playing the poor me card. Gerry asked her about her complex, she answered his question. They then discussed the pricesses of housing in her area and Gerry talked about how much his parents house had gone up in value the last few years. In the conversation I heard this morning, there was no mention of needing to win the money for any reason, they were just discussing housing prices. She also mentioned that she would not move out of her area, because she didnt want to leave her parents. If there was a move, it would involve her parents deciding to move also.

C1mag

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 02:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Zey I gotta say in defense of Roddy he is BRILLIANT! I just hate to see them be played like this and forced in a corner by rules he has made up. However, if he gets to the finals even with Dani I would give him the money over her. Not because of his lame ass moral code gimmick but because from here on out he is fighting an up hill climb as the one too beat. He would deserve the money if he gets to the finals at this point. I would never vote based on emotion.

Hypermom

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 02:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
UGH!! If Dani wins and wants to spend her money on a home, that's her business. At least she has been honest on why she is there. What happened to debating about the HG's and not bashing them?

Twistedsis: I thought Roddy's comment was crass about MAW also. My family had a very memorable trip to Disneyland last year with my late son through MAW.

Earthmother

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 02:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wargod that is the only reason I stay in the Bay Area. My folks have lived here 60 years and my kids are living in the next town. I could easily sell my house (as it has increased in value 16 xs what I paid for it), but I don't want to leave my family and friends I've had all these years. If her kids have been going to the same school, church, Girl Scouts (whatever) why would you uproot them if you have a chance to win this money and stay where you are.

If she doesn't win then perhaps she will have to make living changes but I can't fault her for wanting to stay near her folks and keeping her kids in an area they are used to.

Hunter

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 02:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Money...Schmunny

Who gives a damn about how much money any of them have.

They are all in here for the...money...the fleeting fame...the money and the money.

It disgusts me more when some of them say they are not in the game for the money. They just want the expierience...What a joke.

Any person who is willing to expose themselves to the world like this...lie...cheat...humiliate themselves, before the eyes of the public and their families, deserves...something.

Maybe not 500 grand, the respect and admiration of the public or their families...but..something

What's integrity worth these days???

Battlestar

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 02:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wargod---this thread came up because of their conversation this morning. But prior to this she has had many converssations regarding this---after one of the conversations marcellass and Lisa both said that they didn't like it when she was playing this 'Poor Me--I need a house for my babies' role. They don't like being made to feel that just cause they don't have children they don't need to win

Faerygdds

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 02:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Note to future players of BB:

Whenever someone asks you about why you want to win... be sure to preface EVERY statement with, "Not that I'm destitute or anything, BUT..." or else ppl will think you are playing the "poor me" card!

Whenever someone asks you about your family tell them that everything is perfect and you could want for nothing more or else you are playing the "poor me" card...

Never aspire to own something like a house or a new car because again... that's playing the "poor me" card...


To heck with it... just go into house.. and never EVER talk about your family, friends... or finances...

Yeah... that'll make for good TV...

Wargod

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 03:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm only commenting on the conversation I saw this morning. I didn't see any of the others, and just wanted to point out that in this particular conversation, the two of them were having a conversation where they were joking and laughing. She joked about doing a luxury competition for her daughters to use the pool. Gerry asked her a question about her complex having a pool and she answered, then they discussed her complex, and the cost of housing in some areas of California. He mentioned that his parents house had gone up in value.

Neko

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 03:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Faerygdds - That post gave me Deja Vu. Have you posted it before??

Jeeez..freaky...

Faerygdds

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 03:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nope... but if you got deja vu.. then it must ring of truth huh?

Sassylady

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 03:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1Mag: I am with ya' that it doesn't matter the financial worth of a player/winner--it is ALL about how they play the game. However, every player, more notably Roddy and Marcellas commented on Dani bringing up her finances. So, with it being part of the game, right or wrong, it is fair for the 13th HG (us) to discuss or debate it. BTW Dani happens to be who I am rooting for and if this is her tactic more power to her. However, I think this is just Dani being Dani and discussing her finances is just her. I have enjoyed every single minute of Dani and I hope one day she gets the house that she dreams of. Go Dani! <oops, that slipped out :0)

Gidget

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 03:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
you guys are so much fun. the house is getting so boring. i prefer to believe that you are all expressing your strong opinions as part of the fun of the game. hugs to everyone.

Pcakes2

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 04:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey Earthmother...are you South Bay, North Bay, East Bay or SF proper? For non-Bay Areanites
(areanites...I know, it's not a word), there is no West Bay...that's the ocean.

Earthmother

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 04:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Pcakes2..East Bay..what about you?

Sassylady

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 04:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gidget my fellow investigator ;0): Hugs back atcha

Keiffer

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 04:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Like any strategy playing any one card too much brings too much attention to you. So far it is only Marcy and ROddy commenting on her using the needing the money to buy a house. That is only because at this point it is only Marcy and Roddy that are threatened by her. Right now Lisa would be joining in had she not been lead to believe that she was Danny's choice to go to the finals with, and she doesnt want to rock that boat.

Danny has used the argument that Roddy DOESNT deserve the money because he has no real need for it. By making that argument about another player she opens the debate as to whether or not she NEEDS it for her stated loft purposes.

I will say this that no matter how much financial help you get going to private schools does cost more money. Thes kids that go to them usualyy do come from homes with more money, and want to do more things that end up costing money. Whether it be field trips that are fancier, or just wearing certain types of clothes. Add to that breast surgury does cost at least 2k, and I think had she really wanted a house it could have been done by now. She just decided to spend money on other things. With the low interest payments the last couple of years, and the 100% financing available you do not need 10-20k to buy a house. Just enough for closing costs, and you are in. That doesnt even count the programs for lower income people, and FHA loans. Her needing the money because of a house is just false.

Pcakes2

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kieffer, that is so untrue. Yes, interest rates are down, but the cost of housing is up Up UP! The California economy and the housing situation are unlike anywhere else. I know people who have been struggling for years to purchase a house here, and just cannot do it.

BTW, most catholic schools and many private schools require uniforms, not fancy designer clothes. Most of my friends children go to either private or catholic shcools. They scrimp and save to do so to afford their children a better education. California public schools are terrible. Currently the state of California has no budget...that means certain state employees don't get paid, and almost all spending ceases. Extra cirricular stuff is minimal. Classes are overcrowded. Teachers are buying their own supplies for things like art projects. So, many people opt to send their children to private school at whatever cost.

EarthMother...I'm in the NorthBay

Minkster1973

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ya know, the 2k she spent on her implants could have been a nice chunk to put down on a house. It sounds to me like she needs to get her priorities straight. I find it hard to believe that she ALL OF A SUDDEN needs to buy a home when it's obvious that a set of implants was a more important purchase. I refuse to buy this "Poor Danielle" argument. It's a load of bull, and hearing that she recently altered her body (and obviously not for health reasons) should be proof of that.

Wargod

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Art projects? My teachers kid has to buy her own copy paper.

Financial aid for private school can be small..but it can also cover the full tuition of the school, as in the case of a family I know...all there kids have full tuition paid. Depends on what type of scholorships the schools offer, and what the family can afford to pay.

We bought our house four years ago. Got a good deal on it too (I also live in a part of California where the high end houses are going for around 225,000, which is alot less than other areas.) My sis and bro in law have been searching the area for houses, and the prices have skyrocketed since we bought ours. Houses have gotten expensive here.

Uhoh

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kieffer - maybe in orlando where you live, but this area is a whole other kettle of fish.

you can't get into a house if you don't have the income for the payments! to get into an entry-level house would be at least 450K here...

i doubt she and her postal service husband have a combined income of over 150K, which is what it would take.

(every time this thread moves a page we bay area folks have to remind people how surreal the housing prices are here :P )

Pcakes2

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, this is my last post, then I have to walk away from it (for now).....she never said she NEEDS to buy a house. She hopes to win the money to buy a house for family. She's taking a shot at it, that's all. She knows that by being in the house, she's sacrified a lot (family time, work, etc), but she's playing a game to win money. This is no different than Wheel of Fortune or Jeopardy except we know way to much about the contestants, and it's longer than a half hour. She's trying to do whatever she can to win the prize. Other than to be "discovered" or get "face time", why else would you go on this show and be subjected to all this, if not for the money.

Alexis_42

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer - I agree with you 100%. There are many, many programs out there that are geared for first time home buyers. One of my pet peeves when Dani started "poor mouthing" was the very first episode showed her and her husband standing outside what appeared to be a very nice house. It didn't look like an apartment building to me (but it could have been).

As a single woman with a high school education who has always paid all of my bills with absolutely no help from my parents or any man that has ever been in my life, I have learned to live within my means. By doing this, I was able to sell my POS condo and use the profit for a down payment on a house. Unfortunately, because I bought a condo as my first piece of property - I was not eligible for bond money (which Dani and her husband may very well be entitled to).

I do not have a big screen tv (like Dani does), I don't have a fancy formal dining room set with crystal (like Dani does), I don't have breast implants (like Dani does). I drive a 7-year old Mazda (which I absolutely love and will drive until the transmission drops on the street). I haven't been out of town on a vacation in 4 years (maybe next year). Now don't get me wrong... I'm not pissing and moaning - this is my life and I'm more than happy with it. When I walk into my house every day after work - I know that I sacrificed and struggled to get here. But reality is if you are going to be a homeowner, you have to make sacrifices. My priority is owning my own home and paying all my bills (out of a single woman's salary) - not having breast implants or a big screen tv.

JMHO

Seamonkey

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
From City of Fairfield website:

General Housing Information


To keep pace with the city's growth projections, Fairfield has a variety of housing opportunities to choose from. With a median cost of a home of only $159,500 in the City, Fairfield housing is considerably less expensive than any other Bay Area community. Although affordable by Bay Area standards, this doesn't mean that the City only offers less expensive, entry-level homes. Housing choices range from executive custom homes on large lots tucked away on oak covered hills, to large and small lot subdivisions with a variety of housing sizes, styles and prices.

Additionally, Fairfield offers a variety of rental housing choices as well. Several newer large apartment projects including The Pointe, Sheffield Green, Raintree, and The Summit provide quality rental opportunities for those who do not desire to own a home. Other smaller apartment complexes provide even greater choices. The following is list of the average apartment rental rates in the City as well as the current vacancy rate.

The price chart didn't come thru so well but the source of this info is:

http://www.ci.fairfield.ca.us/planning/general_housing.htm

Purchase price of houses ranges from $110,000 to over a million.

Home rent (2 bedroom)

Low $550 - $750
Med $750 - $900
High $900 - $1,200

So it would seem that it isn't the typical California scenario.

My brother and sister in law live in Fairfield and her family has lived in the Fairfield and Suisun areas for many years in a pretty wide variety of homes, starting with a farm with a 2BR/1 bath house (they had 4 kids, two with masters degrees, a third is a judge and the fourth workes in biotech.

So, I'm familiar with that area, started visiting back in '66 when my brother met his future wife.

Sounds like a good place to buy right now.

Alexis_42

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And one more thing... if she can't afford a house where she lives... then she should MOVE!!! I'd love to live where my friends live. But homes in their area go for $200-$1M. So instead of going on a game show to try to win money so I can live in a house I can't afford - I live 40 miles away where I can afford to live. If her husband is in the postal service - can't he transfer to an area where the real estate is more reasonable? (Someone help me here - I don't know much about the postal service re: personnel transfers)

I also don't want to hear that she doesn't want to move because of her family. As much as I love my parents, they never paid my bills once I reached 18. Therefore, they were never a factor in where I lived.