Cmc209 | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 12:55 pm     Woah! I was just reading the affidavit - her ex really had some things to say. Problems paying phone bills, bad credit, not picking up the kids - and I still haven't finished reading the whole thing. WOW! |
Ladytex | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 12:56 pm     That was certainly interesting ... I can see why they probably go to foth whenever she starts talking about her ex. She probably gets real ugly about him ... |
Crazyfan | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 01:09 pm     I have had many friends unfortunatly that have gone through a divorce and things can get very out of hand. I feel bad for this women and her family. Maybe they should air Tonya's side of the story and forget the FOTH. |
Bbrock | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 01:13 pm     I just read all 10 pages listed at the Smoking Gun about Tonya. Actually, it did not surprise me. What we saw is what we got. LOL |
Zachsmom | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 01:14 pm     WOW..I really really hope her kids come out okay..it's so sad..so very sad.. |
Max | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 01:19 pm     It does paint a sad picture. However, let me point out that these are all papers filed by her husband. I'm sure she has her own version of events, which may differ substantially. We don't know anything about the kind of person her husband is. I'm not trying to defend Tanya as I'm not impressed with the person I've seen on BB3, but in divorces, people on both sides often 'spin' the truth to have it appear to their best advantage. Just some perspective to keep in mind. |
Ryanc2002 | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 01:37 pm     What happened to Ward and June Cleaver??? What's wrong with parents these days? |
Abigail1970 | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 01:45 pm     I'm with you Max, that is only one side of the story! We have no idea what the 'husband' is like. While I will agree that Tonya is pretty shallow and materialistic that doesn't mean her kids should be taken away from her. I wonder why they didnt' located her affidavit? I'd love to see her side! |
Zachsmom | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 01:49 pm     No matter what her husband is like..she should never leave her children for days at a time..especially without explaining where she is going..If her husband is the really really bad person..why leave the kids with him? Why not just move out and take the kids with you? As a mother..I don't think I could ever not have my son with me.. |
Ark | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 01:50 pm     I swear that one morning when I was listening to Tonya & Gerry, Tonya said that she hadn't had a job in a long time. Does anyone else remember hearing that? |
Jello | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 01:51 pm     I believe she said she hadn't worked full time in a long time. |
Jaydubzz | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 01:51 pm     What's up with the spelling of Tonya's name? The legal docs all spell it with a "a" - is the "o" version her stage-name? ...and yes, the docs certainly solidify what we've expected all along about Tonya's character OUTSIDE the house, or lack thereof. |
Maris | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 01:52 pm     What Tonya said was where is it written that I have to have a full time job. I have never had a full time job in my life except for the gallery and I wouldnt even call that a real job. That is what she said Ark. The lady doesnt want to work. |
Goddessatlaw | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 01:57 pm     I'm kind of interested in her employment application. She is originally from Springfield, IL. Lanphier is a public high school and Ursuline Academy (at the time she would have matriculated) is (was) an all-girls Catholic high school. Both are listed as her grammar school. ??? Minor mystery, but a strange mistake to make. Anyone know her maiden name? |
Sushigirl | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 01:59 pm     Max, I know We are only getting one side of story. However, if she was a fit mother I would think she would be fighting for her children instead of being on Big Brother. After reading all the court documents, I think Amy hit the nail on the head when she call her white trash. I'm not trying to bash a houseguest. I'm just giving mho. |
Draheid | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 02:25 pm     I know this is 'OT', however, you should be aware that with the little information found on The Smoking Gun site, I was able to track down detailed information about the residence in question, including value, dimensions, etc. It's down right scary what can be found on the internet with just a tiny bit of information. There's even a link for a map of the area. link |
Zachsmom | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 02:26 pm     do tell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Mystery | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 02:28 pm     Because of property taxes, the value/size of a piece of property or a building is pretty much a matter of public record. There's someone in my neighborhood who goes and looks up what each house sold for, when a house sells. |
Ark | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 02:28 pm     Thanks Maris & Jello. |
Draheid | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 02:29 pm     I revised the message, Zachsmom ... look again. |
Katrina | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 02:31 pm     Wow. I know how nasty things can become in family court, and it is rare that one party is a saint and the other the devil incarnate. We have only heard one side, as has been pointed out. That said, what struck me about these documents is that they seemed quite consistent with what we have heard Tanya say over the live feeds and that the nature of the allegations and requests of the Court did not seem excessive or overblown. Further, Manus seemed interested in continuing to care for Brooke and not having her separated from her sisters, her home, and her schooling. He didn't have to do that. Even if he had a vengeful motive of keeping his stepdaughter from Tanya out of spite and anger, he could have gotten the 1st ex-husband involved in getting her shipped back to Illinois to live with her brothers full-time. Most importantly, if the divorce trial is still pending in August, I find it very odd that Tanya would be in the BB house rather than home preparing for trial and establishing a solid behavioral pattern of work and visitations with her children. I guess she must think she has a good shot at winning first or second prize and that a judge could be impressed with her providing for her children that way. It doesn't seem likely that most family court judges would see it that way though, especially when the girls are so young and their lives already so disrupted. I sure hope her husband or his attorney found a way to record the live feeds, so they could be properly transcribed. (By someone the court would consider a legally qualified transcriber, no offense to LF posters intended!) |
Ryanc2002 | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 02:32 pm     With their name and knowing what city they live in you can get their phone number online. With that information, god knows! |
Ark | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 02:39 pm     Wow, that is kind of scary Draheid. I hope no one hounds this guy. It sounds like he's holding down a job, taking care of three kids and maintaining a house. |
Ryanc2002 | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 02:39 pm     That is...provided their phone number is listed. |
Wcv63 | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 02:40 pm     Divorce is already traumatic for children. Having everything displayed nationally makes it even worse. Even IF all the allegations against Tonya are true (and I'm not qualified to judge as I don't know her), it is going to hurt the children to hear people saying bad things about either of their parents. I hope for that family's sake they are able to conclude whatever legal proceedings remain amicably and that the kids are not made to suffer. |
Iceprincess | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 02:44 pm     The house isn't as GRAND as Tonya makes it out to be. It was only 150K in 2000. Which is NOT that big of deal in Vegas in Spring Valley which is out West of the strip. Average Middle Class for that neighborhood. House Info |