Jason is literally HANDING the money to Roddy
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C1mag

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 04:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason doesn't even get it. I think the kid really thinks he could beat him in a final vote. He really is a SUCKER!! Just like some don't think Dani's "Poor me" card should be played I do not think Jason's, "I'm the sweet one" card should be played. When the voters look back at the half way point and see that Roddy was the majority target each week and survived each time they will hand him the victory easily. Roddy could even turn to Jason and say, "you were the biggest SUCKER of them all" Jason is gonna look like a FOOL!! No one is gonna listen if he stutters and fidgets his way through a weak speech about morals. If anything he will probably point out how BRILLIANT Roddy is. LOL! Dani needs to WAKE UP cause her boy Jason doesn't even realize whats going on. Roddy is riding this kids coattails all the way too the finish line and Jason can't even see it.

Saggkl

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 04:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Great post, C1. I wish it wasn't so, but I agree. I just feel it is sliding down hill fast for everyone except Roddy.

Rose_City

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 04:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That sums it up perfectly, C1mag. I love Jason, think he's a doll, BUT the boy blew it big time. He realized it himself and said as much in the DR, on the show Saturday night.

Carigsby

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't understand why everyone feels that Roddy is in the clear. There are at least 3 other people in that house that want him out. This game is far from over.

Weary_Watcher

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, I looked at all the scenarios, Roddy doesn't have the votes unless Deni or Lisa is next HOH. So that means you are right, all of you.
I'm just sad that Jason "bought" the lines of Roddy. Did anyone watch to see if Jason is still confiding in Danielle? I hope Jason is playing this game so well he's got us all fooled.
I just think that's not the case, however much I hope it is (sigh).

C1mag

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What three people want Roddy out? Right now they all want Gerry gone and then next 2 of them think Amy should go with Marcellus up in the air about it. Marcellus knows that Roddy should go but he also knows that Roddy can be used to get out Dani. Marcellus does not want her ( Dani )to go much further. So does Marc really want Roddy out right now? Not if there is an avenue to keep him in. Lisa and Dani are the only ones that think Roddy should go right now.

Rose_City

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
True,Carigsby, true. BUT...All the HGs know Roddy is a powerful player. They give lots of lip service about getting rid of him but back off when opportunity knocks. Jason had a huge opportunity and backed down. As for the others, everyone wants everyone else to do the dirty work. At this stage in the game, it's too risky. Time's running out for the others. Just my penny.

What555456

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason did not buy any line from Roddy. He has decided to play for the money. Cut throat style. He thinks he can do it by being aligned with both Dani and Roddy.

I don't think it is possible. The problem with presenting yourself as an ethical and moral person is that when people find out you are as bad as everyone else, you fall harder and cannot pick yourself back up.

Jason is not long for this game.

Theo17

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
you have to give roddy credit. He has jason totally snowed. He made jason turn on dannielle. Dont say he didnt because jason himself promissed to get roddy to her and promised to protect danni. He did neither. I do not like roddy but you have to give credit where credit is due. Jason fell hook line and sinker.

Carigsby

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I guess you are right - there are 2. However - this has not been a game that has necessarily been predictable up to this point. Marc, Amy, Jason or Gerry won't put Roddy up. However, if Danielle or Lisa win POV then his butt is on the line and they can easily convince one of the others to vote their way. Marc, Amy and Jason (maybe) can be convinced of anything. I think Jason may vote for him later, but he wasn't comfortable putting his head on the table himself. At this point all that you need is 3.

Grannygrunt

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
When Gerry goes on Thursday, that only leaves 6 players left and 3 of them can't vote next week. So that means it will only take 2 votes to vote someone out. IF Dani gets HOH and puts up Roddy and Amy (or whoever), then we will get to see if Jason's deal is only for this week. Because then Jason and Lisa could vote Roddy out. Just a thought. Of many I might add. I really think that if Lisa or Dani gets HOH then one of them will put Roddy up and its left to the other 2 to make sure he is gone that week. Will be the telling tale of who is with who "till the end"

Wcv63

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't like this thread. I refuse to visit this thread ever again.

I will now take my leave. Pssssttt ya'll can still stop me. Just admit that Jason is wonderful!

<stomp stomp pout pout>

Theo17

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
granny why would jason choose amy over roddy next week when he wouldnt this week. If you want roddy out you have to nominate jason with him.

Grannygrunt

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wcv, you know I am one of Jason's biggest fans but I want him to win, not come in second. And if he is to win, then Roddy has to go. IMHumbleO

What555456

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, but if Dani or Lisa are HOH they cannot vote. So, you start with only one vote to evict if Dani or Lisa put up Roddy.

Marcellus will support Roddy at the end, if Roddy can get him in the hot tub and seduce him. Amy simply does not have the smarts. A Jason has proven he is not man enough to go against Roddy.

So, where will the other votes come from?

Looks to me like the winner is the one Jason himself said would win because he did not have the guts to nominate him -- Roddy.

And you do have to hand it to Roddy. He has worked this crowd well and has handled each one individually based on each one's weaknesses. I think we are all just surprised that Jason is so much weaker than even his critics once thought.

Eden

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't see how Jason reconciles saving Roddy while he betrays his supposed closed ally Danielle. He's lost his halo as far as I'm concerned. He's no better than Marcellas. They are both double dealers.

Grannygrunt

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Because of the Chiara deal. Next week that is suppose to be off. Besides this week it is Gerry and Amy and I think Jason really wants Gerry gone. So next week, when it's Roddy and whoever, Jason will choose whoever is against Roddy. Not just Amy.

Grannygrunt

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I will not give up on Jason until the next vote and Roddy is up. If Jason then votes to keep Roddy THEN AND ONLY THEN will I reconsider my thinking about Jason. Everybody deserves a second chance to right a wrong. OK where did Wcv go and leave me here in this den of Vipers.

Rose_City

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wcv63: I'm with Granny. I adore Jason and want him to win, too. That's why I'm banging my head at his decision. He used his kind heart, not his head with these nominations. And he knows it. This is a game. The object is to win the big money. They can always kiss and make-up later--then take in that baseball game they're talking about.

Carigsby

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that just because Jason couldn't bring himself to put Roddy up - doesn't mean that he couldn't vote against him. I think his alliance with Danielle is strong - just remember that they have planned on more than one occasion to have fallings out and not appear to be together. She told him she would support him and he told her, in so many words, that he wasn't sure about putting Roddy up.

C1mag

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cari the kid also told Roddy that Dani has a target for him to be gone. That isn't supporting your alliance at all. I think the kid will only evict Roddy if he is forced to by a Dani and Roddy nomination. Other than that he will protect Roddy based on the belief that Roddy deserves to stay in the game.

I have already said this but will say it again.. From here on out, if ANY of the players protect Roddy and allow him in this game then they have chosen to play for second place. The question is... Who in hell plays for second place? Apparently Jason does! There is nothing brilliant about keeping Roddy off the block this week. It was a foolish mistake that cost Jason the grand prize and if he keeps Roddy in there week after week he even looks worse. From here on out Roddy is the winner against all of them in the finals. He was too much of a target each week and if he gets to the finals he deserves the victory.

Bomom

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They have ALL failed to vote Roddy out while simultaneously saying that if he does not leave he will win the game. "I know I should be voting for Roddy to leave but I vote for (fill in the blank) has become their mantra. They are all brain dead as far as I can see.

Carigsby

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Right on, Bomom.

C1 - I never said that Jason's decision was brilliant - but I don't think that Arnold needs to be cutting the check just yet, either.

I'm actually quite impartial during this BB -which leads to such a pleasurable viewing experience. No one is swaying me one way or the other - I think they all are playing well.

Bmh

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag I agree..but I think we should give the kid one more chance to mess up..lets say Amy and Roddy go up next week..and Jason votes to evict Amy..then I will 100% agree with you..but I cant be 100% sure he wouldn't get rid of Roddy..unless I see it with my own eyes..I mean do you think he would go against Dani's wishes..we will see..but I guess I have a little more faith in the kid then you do..I just want to see if he can vote to evict Roddy next week if Rod goes up..but I will lose all faith if he doesn't