They HAVE to evict Amy
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They HAVE to evict Amy
Watching2 | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 02:20 pm     Amy is far less mature than most 24-yr-olds I know. Several of the other houseguests are in her age-range. I've have LFPs, read the boards and watch the show, and after watching her in the DR last night, I was totally turned off by her. Her drunkeness, her cackle, her nastiness is not fun or charming in the least bit. I think she should go home before she totally trashes herself on TV. She and Marcellis are just plain nasty about other people. Marcellis was much better without her and I think he's beginning to see it. |
Ddr1135 | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 02:36 pm     Theo, Amy commented last night that her dad will take money out of her paycheck to pay for her car insurance and then get some more money from her for it later on. (All said lightly and humorously). Azriel, I also have found Amy to be polite and courteous the majority of the time on the live feeds. Right now, she is apologizing to Gerry for his casting in the "BB3 Movie" and very nicely I might add. I think her "whining" is part of her act and I do find find humor in the banter between she and Marci. As for her drinking, I find I get very uncomfortable with some of the comments being made about her on the board here. Did everybody see the great photo of her on the CBS BB3 website? I think it's great! I've also noticed the hg's and the board have more emotional opinions for the stronger personalities of the hgs (Marci, Amy, Roddy, Dani). I like 'em all and my hat off to them for putting themselves out there for the world too see and for making my summer more enjoyable. JMO |
Theo17 | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 02:37 pm     DDR i make mistakes often and if I was wrong in this case i sincerely appologize to Amy, her dad and the board. |
Indybarb | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 02:45 pm     ddr..... the only reason she is apologizing is because marcellas gave her a "talking to" and told her to apologize!! i don't care how she does or doesn't play the game... she is just exactly how she is... it is very obvious.... sorry i feel so strongly about her attitude to others .....well, not really sorry.... she is just a spoiled brat who always has to be the center of attention... |
Azriel | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 02:46 pm     I've lived in the south all my life and most of the girls I know that are Amy's age act just like her. People her age go out and drink and party. When I was her age, before I had children, I went out and drinked and partied. I had no responsibilities and I just had fun. I didn't have a drinking problem and I don't think Amy does, either. I don't think she is an awful self-centered person. She found herself in a situation with people that were VERY different than her. She didn't know how to fit in with them. They treated her rudely to her face and put her down because she didn't run to jump in a shower and act trashy or talk about her sexual exploits. So they decided that she was self-centered and started an all out trashing campaign that got her kicked out of the house. She has never treated anyone in that house with rudeness. She has been nothing but sweet and has tried to have fun and get along with them. She exited the house gracefully and she came back in to try and prove herself, but she doesn't have a chance because she found out she already had a big red X on her face and noone really wants to be close to her because they want to vote her back out easily. |
Patman | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 02:50 pm     Amy will look back on the tapes of her on BB3, and regret how silly she allowed herself to look on TV. She does have a self-destructive streak, and like a child, she's always trying to push to the limits until an adult tells her "No." and to shape up, which she does until she's bored again and needs more attention. Amy's a baby. I can't believe people thought she'd change in just 2 weeks, especially after that relevatory "talk" she had with Roddy oh so many weeks ago. People don't change who they "really" are in a matter of weeks. |
Azriel | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 02:55 pm     When Amy gets out and looks at the tapes and hears what her fans, her friends and her family tells her, she will regret that she didn't tell everyone in the house to take their holier than thou attitude and stick it where the sun don't shine. |
Draco | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 02:59 pm     I think Amy is a refreshing addition to the house. Her cattiness can get out of hand at times but most times I find her funny. Who wouldn't want a few drinks to deal with that environment from time to time! She's just "Amy" and I think her drinking has been exaggerated quite a bit. |
What555456 | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 03:06 pm     Amy works for her dad? And this morning I learned that her mother comes over each week and does her housework and luandry! Does this woman have ANY desire to grow up and live her own life? Or does she intend to leach off her parents until some spinster aunt walks in with her future husband already chosen so that she doesn't have to work at that "dating" thing either? |
Hermione69 | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 03:09 pm     I know that the debate about whether or not Amy has a drinking problem will not be resolved here and nor should it because ultimately that is Amy's call. But sometimes I get irritated when people "Pooh pooh" those of us who see a red flag and say, "She doesn't have a drinking problem. She's just having fun." Not that I wish a drinking problem on her and I hope she doesn't have one, but the signs are very valid. It doesn't matter that she is only 24. I know alcoholics who are 16. Those of us who see the signs are not manufacturing them out of our imagination. Consider: Amy drank enough to black-out on at least one occasion, if i'm not mistaken. I seem to remember her one morning admitting that she did not remember some things from the night before. She consistently and desperately tries to talk other people out of their drinks so she can have them. She is not joking when she does this; she really wants their drinks! The other HGs have expressed concern over her drinking. Other people see it before you see it yourself. She drinks to get drunk. She is never happy with one or two drinks. She has two DUIs. She made enough of an impact with her behavior on another recovering alcoholic that the woman wrote an article on Amy's drinking. I'm not going to repeat the points of this article; the woman raised some other points that I did not list above. You can check it out yourself if you want: http://www.realitynewsonline.com/cgi-bin/ae.pl?mode=1&article=article2072.art&page=1 You still think she is just having fun? I guess all I can say now is that I hope you are right. She does have some traits I don't like, as they all do, but generally I think she is funny, smart and cute as a button and I hope that she is NOT walking down that destructive path. And I'm shutting up now, because I've said enough and I'm sure I am going to get lambasted again! LOL! |
Wendo | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 03:18 pm     Azriel said, "I didn't have a drinking problem and I don't think Amy does, either." I don't know whether or not she has a drinking problem, though it could be argued that there are signs of it. However, Azriel, did you have 2 DUI's by the age of 24? Amy got in her car drunk TWO times and could have killed people. It's called irresponsibilty. |
Azriel | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 03:36 pm     Amy has only had one DUI. She has another charge of driving reckless where no alcohol was involved. The DUI was 4 years ago and she hasn't had another. Maybe she did learn her lesson? |
Meggieprice | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 03:37 pm     Hermione You brought up some great points and it came to me while I read both your post and Azriel's that there are really two Amy's-drunk and sober. Sober Amy is all that Az mentions-cute,funny,sweet, kind. It is drinking that brings out the worst in her.I have absolutely no doubt that she forgets what she says and does while drunk. It just bothers me that she is in an important game affecting others (for example when she spills everything to Roddy who knows just how to prime the pump) with her actions. I am not a sanctimonious tee totaler. I enjoy a drink at times. I just see those signs of a problem and I hope if it's true Amy stops before she goes too far. (Worst case-kills someone driving drunk) Meanwhile I want her out so others who really want to play can do so. |
Theo17 | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 03:38 pm     I dont know if she has a drinking problem or not but its obvious she drinks a whole heck of a lot. Infact if I'm not mistaken they showed her drinking from the very first show and even in mexico. |
Onlyhuman | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 03:42 pm     Hermione, I think the article you pointed out showed that Amy has the potential to have a drinking problem. I can't argue that. At one point in my life, I know I had the potential to have one as well. I think if you look at most college campuses or in most nightclubs, you will see MANY people with this potential. But they don't all currently have drinking problems and many won't ever develop one, though some will. However, my biggest objection is to people already labeling her an "alcoholic" or a "lush". I think there is a huge difference between pointing out warning signs of a potential problem and diagnosing and labeling her as a drunk. Wendo, I'm not saying that Amy was right to drink and drive. In fact, I'd like to grab her and shake her and ask her what the heck she was thinking. However, I thought she had one DUI and then got in trouble for driving while her license was suspended for that DUI. I could be wrong. It also happened 4 years ago and, since she has never addressed it, we have no idea if she finally learned her lesson from all of it and has never done it again. I will say that it would be very scary to me if I heard her say that drinking and driving is no big deal, but since she hasn't I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. |
Calgaryperson | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 05:34 pm     If I was in the house(which i'm not obviously!) I'd vote for Amy to leave the house. Why? She got to go to Mexico! Also her drinking. Her accent is fine, but when she's drunk it gets annoying. |
Nermal | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:02 am     She needs to go before she totally destroys her family. Did she have to say in front of the entire US that her father had an affair on her mother? Nobody could believe she was telling this on tv. She just doesn't seem to understand the idea of 24 hours converage. |
Maris | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:03 am     They have all pretty much embarrassed their families on tv. I am sure Javier loved walking into the post office after Danni revealed on the feeds that he had been a virgin. |
Nermal | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:15 am     I'd much rather be known as a virgin than someone who cheated on his wife. I don't think Danielle, Roddy or Jason have done anything to really embarrass their family's. But some of the others have to a much greater degree. I just don't think being known as a virgin at age 16 is a big deal. Remember, they had a child together by 16. |
Jazzcat | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:10 am     i can't say whether amy is an alcoholic or not and no one but amy should ever say it. if and when she decides she needs help. as a recovering alcoholic (7 years now) i had to go through a whole ton of s**t before i was ready to say 'uncle'. as for duii's, isn't kiki scheduled to be in court soon for the duii she got just b/4 going in the house??? i saw this on other websites and at 'the smoking gun'. i dont believe i ever heard her talk about it with anyone in the house!! |
Cyn | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:20 am     danielle, lisa and marcellas are criticizing amy at present. danielle says she saw Roddy when the ROddy and Chiara thing first started with lipstick on his lips and it was not Chiara's color. (meaning that it was amy's.) Mar is mad cause amy said she worked to evict Chiara casue it was due to her being mean to her for two weeks. But, now he thinks it's because she likes roddy. mar called her a beauty queen gone bad. they mention other things, but i'm too tired to completely follow it. they are not happy that amy has come back because she changed the whole game. |
Jazzcat | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:24 am     thanks cyn, if i had lf's i'd post, but, alas i am at work and can only access the bulletin boards. |
Meggieprice | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:27 am     I am a little peeved at Marc for complaining about how it went because he was the one who orchestrated the Wednesday morning pre-vote debacle. I think he is the main one responsible for Rodi being here now. |
Jazzcat | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:32 am     how so meggie? |
Cameltoes | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:33 am     I agree Meggie - they had agreed to explain to Amy after the live show but Marc spilled the beans. |
Wcv63 | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:43 am     Either eviction will have consequences for the Roddy alliance. That is, it would have consequences if the houseguests could break free of his manipulations and not allow him to dictate the future. Roddy wants to bring Gerry along to the end because he is convinced that he can win against him in the finals. That may be true. Shrug. Amy just said outside with Jason that she is tired of the gossip. I don't think she is tired of gossiping herself just tired of having people gossip about her. I think she has the potential to be a truly sweet and loyal friend. BUT she allows the negatives to take over occassionally which overshadows her better side. I suppose since we're talking about this, the general consensus is that the POV will remain unused. I stayed away from the board and the feeds for the majority of the day and am still trying to piece together events. |
Meggieprice | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:48 am     Amy and Marc talked for hours in bed the night before the vote. Marc couldn't help it- he wanted to vote Rodi out but he just couldn't do it without making her see it was the right thing to do-had to jump the gun. He worked at her for hours, explaining he had come to see that Rodi had to go, and that she had to stop being selfish and think about the good of the game and the house. She had an emergency DR in the end (flouncing right past an astonished Chia and Rod in the LR) and then when she came back to bed was mad but accepting the inevitable that it wasn't going to go her way. The all of a sudden ( and I was beside myself hanging on every word, thinking we were actually gonna get the guy OUT) Marcellas does an abrupt about face and says- if we want Dani out, and Roddy leaves, then who can get Dani out? It had never occurred to him and he turned it around on the spot and told Amy she had to go to Dani before the vote and get her to change it so that Chia left. And that is exactly what happened. I watched every agonizing minute and saw my hopes for a Roddy ouster turn on a dime. It was Marc that made it happen in the end, not Amy. I haven't known what to think about his game ever since. |
Meggieprice | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:52 am     Wc-noone has really mentioned the POV in a serious way today. They are looking to next week already. My post above was for Jazzcat.... It is of interest, however that Dani/Lisa/Marc all said they will nominate Roddy if they get HOH. They also said that Amy has to go and should be nominated with Roddy too. Interesting! |
Jazzcat | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:53 am     thanks meggie! i remember seeing the amy 'pout' right sometime before the live show and was SURE rodman was GONE. i even felt a little sorry for amy. but i didnt see the marcellus convo. i thought the vote screw up had more to do with dani's last minute instructions and her last convo's with amy in hoh. thanks for clearing that up! |
Saggkl | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 09:05 am     I saw that convo also Meggie, and i figured that Roddy knew at that moment they were fighting because Amy wanted Chiara gone.Wasn't it not to long after that the hot tub scene happened? |
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