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Marcellasfan

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I want to change my call sign. Marcellas has become tedious in his dislike of Gerry. Maybe I'll be GerryFan.

Wendo

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Avery said, "The point I was trying to make was that why is it wrong for those 2 people to do it but ok for us to it. Regardless of the fact that one is more toned down than the other."

Well, I guess I'll just answer then. While the words themselves were quite offensive to me, what really upset me with their comments was the HATE behind them. Yes, for me, I felt HATE behind them. In addition to my earlier post about never hearing such words even close to what they spewed tonight, I've never heard or felt words of HATE on this board.

People here comment on the HG's. Their actions, their game playing, their strategy, their tactics, and their behavior. However, no one here, imo, has ever just bashed someone for literally who they are.

That is what Mar and Amy did tonight. And, it was not funny, or humorous, or entertaining. Frankly, it was just mean and HATEFUL. Period.

Snee

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
gramma, didn't they use some snippets of tape of hg's behaviour to confront them with upon eviction? i seem to remember something like that.

Smrtass

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank you, Creampuff and Wcv.

Rain

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What is so sad is that Marcellus has absolutely wasted a chance to ally with someone who would not have betrayed him--Gerry.

As soon as Gerry made his little veto speech, as embarassing as it was, Marcellus should have known that an alliance with Gerry could have been a good thing for himself. Marcellus could have used Gerry to further his goals, instead he kept pushing him away, and now is totally trashing him for no reason.

Marcellus is not playing a smart game at all, and the stress is getting to him. (Sometimes I think the person who will ultimately win this game will be the one who doesn't completely disintegrate)

Wendo

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Avery, ok then.

I think I'm at the point where I can honestly say that I'd like the Amy and Marcellas show put on either permanent hiatus, or cancelled.

Abbynormal

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
All I know is I'm already sick and tired of listening to Amy whine. She never speaks in a normal tone of voice anymore except when she is being vicious about someone.

I was not a huge supporter of Chiara, but sometimes she did make me laugh and the night she and Marcellas had the camp out was way funnier than the endless bashing he and Amy do.

Gramma

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 12:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
perhaps snee. Can't recall any specific instances at the mo, but some fuzzy part of my brain thinks it's seen something like that. Was Tonya shown the video of herself lashing out at Amy? (maybe I dreamt that).

anyway..I doubt they'd show anything as rude and damning as this scene from the hammock. Wouldn't be fair to Gerry or his family to have it shown on live TV.. I'm just wishing. My sense of justice wants/demands some sort of retribution for their nastiness. A public humiliation would suit me nicely.

Ryanc2002

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 12:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm sorry, I don't know who said that nothing was as bad as what Josh said about Gerry and his wife, but I disagree, and I have to ask, did you hear the conversastion between Amy and Marcellas tonight?

Cyn

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 12:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
if i was a mean person, i would wish for his (mar's) mom to publically reprimand him in the American Choice video. but, i wouldn't wish that on him. and, i wouldn't want to wish it on her.

Gramma

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 12:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Or..to have Gerry win the A.C. and to watch Mars face as he sees how loved the man is by his family. I'd like to think that privately, Mar would be reprimanding himself for his unwarranted and vile attacks on Gerry behind his back.

I addition, having mar nominated against gerry, and subsequently being booted out by a unanimous vote might help to soothe my soul.


(not this time..but next time) ;)

Cyn

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 12:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
no, i hope that gerry doesn't win america's choice. simply because it will give him only more specific appalling and horrifying things to say.

unfortunately, i really believe this.

Eden

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 12:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
No offense, but aren't we here to critique, analyze, comment on the behavior, strategies and motivations of the houseguests, not each other? Everyone here is free to express themselves within the moderators standards. It isn't up to other posters to decide what is worthy comment or not.

Seems the posters that support the less popular HG among the majority spend most of their time analysing the motivations of their fellow posters as much as the players in the game.

Marcellas and Amy crossed a line tonight. It's thrown them into an ugly spotlight. People are commenting on their feeling and reactions to this bare insight. That's all there is to it.

We're all allowed our opinions. We don't all have to agree.. so let's agree to disagree and let our comments on what goes on in the house speak for ourselves .

Duchess

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 12:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well said, Eden!

Saggkl

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 08:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You know I really wonder what they would think if they saw a clip of their behavior? Would they be shocked realizing how they sounded. Or do you think they already know and don't care?

Keiffer

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 09:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Stupid question that might have been asked already, but I couldn't stay up late last night to watch this talk.

Are Marcy and Amy funny if they are coming down on Chiara or Tonya, and not funny if they are talking about anyone else?

I might be wrong because I didn't get to watch this but they were making up songs about the bad character of Tonya last week, and they have been all over Chiara since Amy got back, and people were making thread rejoicing that the Mar and AMy show was back.

Boberry

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 09:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer: I don't find Amy and Marcellas funny regardless of who they are criticizing. Nor do I find Marcellas, Danielle or Roddy funny either when they do the same thing. I do not at this moment remember Lisa being ugly about anybody for no reason, and I certainly have not seen Jason or Gerry do that. During the first week, even though Lori went overboard with the way she handled the situation, I totally agree with her that if you have an issue with someone, you talk directly to them and don't talk behind their backs. Hopefully as some of these people mature, they will be less condemning of people around them.

Marameko

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 09:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
A and M need Jesus.Or etiquette lessons or SOMETHING. It is simply awful to constantly berate this man. What a sense of superiority they have....

Tatyana

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 01:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have never found someone who makes fun of someone else funny and consider people who laugh along with the person doing the insults just as guilty as the insulter. Of course they don't find it funny when they are the butt of the insult themselves. ;b I always try to live by: "an ye harm none, do what ye will". ;)

Allietex

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 05:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Biggus, the analogy of a football game was very good. People agree to participate in a game and they agree to take the hits within the boundary of the rules. However, I feel that Marcellas and Amy are hitting out of bounds, are guilty of unsportsmanlike conduct, and illegal blocks. The ref should throw the flag and give them a penalty and if the behavior continues, they should be ejected from the game. Their behavior would not be tolerated in a well run NFL game.

Sisalou

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 09:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Eden - Excellent post! Bravo!

Donut

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
oh my heck, marcellus just said he feels bad if people heard how he trashes Gerry and he hopes they havent show that part to the outside world
Didnt anyone tell this man there are cameras in this house??!!!

Snee

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
heard that too, donut (<--appropriate name after the food challenge!)

from the lfp:
M: I feel really bad though. We get his wife hearts and flowers and then we trash him so much. I hope they aren't putting that out there. It would hurt him in the real world.

they are putting that out there, marce. i am sure people will find out about it, he will find out about it, and be very hurt.

marcellas needs to smarten up right now.

Earthmother

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh so now we are going to be remorseful in case Gerry is evicted. We wouldn't want him to think we are really vile since we have this attack of conscience just before Gerry is about to become part of the jury...BULL!!!!

Snee

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i don't think so, earthmother. i think they aren't thinking AT ALL. neither of them have made much (any?) mention of winning this game. they have both commented on being on the jury themselves.

Earthmother

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Snee, didn't Amy say "you me and Lisa at the end?" If there is any chance of these two making it they want to make sure Gerry sees a good side. If he stays the bashing will go full throtle..

Snee

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
that could be, EM, but i don't remember it. still, i don't think their remorse (however deeply/shallowly felt) was because of later voting. they could cancel him as a voter.

i believe that this was a moment of remorse, but i agree with you that the gerry bashing will continue. that upsets me no end.

Oregonfire

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought the segment of the show tonight where Marci felt like Gerry "wanted him" was hilarious. Is that mean? I also wondered if Marci was retaliating verbally because he felt that Gerry was coming onto him, which makes his bashing *slightly* more understandable.

Snee

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 12:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i'm not sure marce really thinks gerry has a thing for him, but gerry believes that marce is his best friend in the house. gerry seems to follow marcellas around and wants to spend more time with him and that upsets marcellas and he lashes out BIG TIME.

Earthmother

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 12:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What about Marc's remark about being eye-candy..OMG unsweetened, bitter chocolate maybe. lol

Wrat1010

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 07:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
the sad truth is that if marcellas had remained close with gerry he would have isolated himself from the rest of the group. we saw this last year with kent and bunky. both krista-monica and hardy-nicole alliances hated kent so bunky was at a disadvantage in that the other 2 partnerships could team up and eliminate kent, leaving bunky forced to become the 3rd wheel in one of the other power structures, and that ended up giving him 5th place.

Allietex

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wrat I am not sure that that is true. Marcy was the one who hated Gerry and kept the bashing against him going. I know the original six resented him and might not have wanted him as an ally but I don't believe they would have isolated him if Marcy had not led the way. I am not saying Marcy needed to be Gerry's best friend, I am just saying he would have done better to discourage him as a friend instead of bashing him. That would not have hurt him and might have helped him in the end. His treatment of Gerry might come back to haunt him.

Maris

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It was Danni who led the way about Gerry. She started it with the handwashing, then told Gerry it was ok to wash his underwear in the sink only to run in and complain about it. Dani was the one who came running into the HRD to talk about Gerry and the popcorn and wiping his arms under the armpits. Danni fed Marcellas knowing what a germophobe he was. I am not making excuses for Marcellas and what he said, but Danni was the instigator there.

Marcellas may very well be haunted by his words to Gerry just as Gerry may be haunted by a few of the things he said too.

Mizinvancouver

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 11:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What was all that about (On last nights episdode) Gerry fawning over Marcellas???

It was kind of creepy him asking if it was ok for him to watch Marcellas in the shower. And him staring at him continuously.

Marcellas in the Diary Room was pretty funny...lol
Marcellas saying," I mean I know I'm eye-candy but.." ROFLMAO

Do you think Gerry has a slight obsession with Marcellas? (I'm not saying G's gay, but it was kind of odd.)