Archive through August 20, 2002
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Archive through August 20, 2002
Moedog | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 10:43 pm     From LFPs: Monday, August 19, 2002 - 09:46 pm Dani, Lisa and Marcellas in the HoH room talking about Chiara and Roddy and who to vote out. Marc seems to be changing his mind about who to vote out. Talking about not really giving Amy his word and not wanting to miss another opportunity to vote Roddy out. Marcellas says he's tired of being played and he's tired of it looking like he's in colugence[sp?] with Roddy. Danielle asks what they wanna do, she needs to know how they want to do this. Lisa says in her heart she feels Roddy should be the one to go, she just felt bad for Amy that night in the hottub. Marcellas says he doesn't think HoH should be in the position of making the house feel they should vote a certain way, he didn't do that when he put up Josh and Tonya, he couldn't care less which one left. Danielle tells him she respects him for the way he handled his week as HoH. Lisa agrees. They talk a little more about the pros of voting Roddy out. Then Marcellas says "I say we leave at this, nothing more needs to be said on it, and we all vote with what our hearts tell us to do"...and with that, Amy walks into HoH. --------------- Vote with our hearts? What a cop-out! : ( ps... You're welcome, Bernie! |
Bernie | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 10:47 pm     Thanks again, Moedog  |
Annitar | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 10:49 pm     Thanks for the extra info guys! I had read the live feeds but didn't see the convo between Lisa & Mar about Roddy. Bravo to Lisa if she was the one to sew the seeds of doubt in Roddy's mind. I agree that Mar is really annoyed by the drinking again. I think he thought things would be different this time around. I feel bad that Amy is doing this to herself. She had a great oppurtunity and she is wasting it. I think Lisa & Jason are playing the smartest games right now! |
Annitar | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 10:53 pm     Oooh! This was just posted a little bit ago on the live feeds: _______IMPORTANT__________ Dani tells Jay R has to go Jason says I hoped you were going to say that. |
Cyn | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 10:58 pm     Thank God and Goddess and all the Spirits and the Intelligent Ones! hip-hip-hooray!! |
C1mag | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 11:19 pm     I'm only gonna say this.... I don't trust Marcellus after what I heard him say last night. That man is playing very malicious. My personal feeling is that he thinks that by allowing Dani and Lisa to vote out Roddy he's going to make them look bad. His only problem in this is that last night he thought he knew how Jason was gonna vote and he thinks Jas is voting to save Roddy. I don't care how anyone else saw this. I don't trust that man at all. So the scary part is if Marc gets wind that Jason is voting out Roddy also then he will work like a mad man to change it around. So Pray that he never finds out about Jasons vote. I really do think this was a Marc set up. He wants Dani out. However, Dani may have the last laugh! Marcellus was too intent on getting her out last night and was pretty brutal. Keep your fingers crossed cause again it's gonna be another unknown eviction until Thursday. |
Cameltoes | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 11:23 pm     Marc knows Jason is voting Roddy out. Danielle said to Marcellas that she "thinks" Jason is voting Roddy out because he fears Roddy more than Chiara and he's closer to Chiara. So he knows J is a likely Roddy vote. We'll have to see what he says to Amy tonight (if anything). |
Moedog | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 11:28 pm     I'll believe it when I see it. |
Annitar | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 11:28 pm     I think it won't matter in the end if he is trying to make them look bad or not. Marce is going to be surprised that he is a man swinging in the wind next week if this was his plan. Amy can't get HOH and his chances are nothing compared to the Lisa/Dani/Jason alliance. I agree the truth will be told when he and Amy go to HOH tonight. Well that is if she isn't passed out by that time! Marce was absolutely vile in HOH last night, it will be very interesting to see if that trend continues tonight. |
Marcellasfan | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 11:29 pm     c1 - I don't see Marc as being that machiavellian. The man works solely on emotion. He's good at seeing people's agenda though and that is why I think he's going to vote for Roddy |
C1mag | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 01:06 am     I guess I'm with Moedog on this one. I'll believe it when I see it. All of the stress over this choice should not have happened this week to begin with. So I'm gonna hope for the best and expect the worst. |
Oregonfire | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 01:38 am     Like many others have said, I've believe it when I see it. Luckily Chiara's been a good sport this evening, which helps. Amy and Marci are currently being Roddy's lap dogs on the back porch. Chiara went back there to see him and no place to sit because they have him enclosed. |
C1mag | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 01:38 am     Camel at 1:35 Dani just said to Lisa that she DID NOT tell Marc how Jas is voting and she said if the vote is not 4-1 in favor to evict Roddy then she will know the truth as to where Marcellus is at in the game. So she was careful about not telling him. Right now Lisa is saying she feels good about Roddy going and knows it's the right thing to do but until he walks out that door I will not believe it for as much as I want it. They flip flop every day. |
Cameltoes | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 01:42 am     She didn't explicitly state that Jason told her how he's voting but did say how she suspects Jason was going to vote. I would think Marc would have picked up on it but maybe not. At any rate, since she expects the votes to be 4-1, I'm feeling much more comfortable about the fact that Roddy is gone. I really think Gerry will vote to evict Roddy so 4-1 might not mean anything in terms of Danielle trusting Marc. |
Cute1073 | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 01:44 am     another one of danielle's tests.....why doesn't anyone clue in that she is using everyone to do her dirty work oh wait some have and now she wants to vote them out. |
C1mag | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 01:45 am     Would it be hiliarious if it was 5-0 to evict Roddy? Now that would be too damn funny!! |
Cute1073 | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 01:47 am     C1mag....yeah we could watch his head explode and then try to blame it on Chiara's not treating him nice enought or something |
C1mag | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 01:49 am     Cute it's a test she was forced to play after finding out that Marcellus has been playing her. She isn't forcing anyone to vote this man out. All she has done is campaign for this and to be honest it really has been Lisa who has brought rational thought to evicting him and she never forced Lisa to do this. People really have misjudged Dani. She has allowed people to say things and do things only when they say they are going to do it. It just happens to serve her agenda. I see nothing wrong in her approach. She allows every single person to back out of any plan and then she usually goes with the trend. She campaigned to get Roddy up there instead of Jason. I don't see this as a bad move. If Amy had said no then she would have backed off. |
C1mag | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 01:57 am     Another REAL good moment is that the house is planning to give Roddy and Ki the HRD tomorrow night so with the concert with Sheryl and with them locked away Roddy can't do too much damage before the vote. YES!!! This also gives Dani one last troup talk. |
Cameltoes | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 02:02 am     Yeah.. they will not be fixated on strategy much at all tomorrow. All day, they are going to be wondering what the "luxury competition" is all about, and then the concert will have them jazzed up for the rest of the night. I can't foresee anything happening to change their plans but I'm still keeping my fingers crossed. |
Annitar | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 02:08 am     Great post over in the live feed section with Dani & Lisa. Thought I would paste it here for people who don't have live feeds and would be easier for folks to see instead of reading all the live feeds! It's worth reposting here: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 01:32 am -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lisa and Dani in HRD L I asked him, did E ever come up to you about voting? And he gave me this wishy washy answer. He said he never asked me. But he felt pressure from Roddy and Chiara how to vote. Then we dropped the conversation and he said he would talk to me later D I don't see him spear heading this whole thing L We made a promise not to talk to anybody about it. I don't know if it's me grabbing onto that idea to ease my hurt. Especially when I don't have him here to ask D That's why I looked at you and said don't. I honestly don't think he was part of it. L Roddy said him and Eric went up to Jason Dani whispering (ed can't hear what she is saying) L It's to much. Did Mar make you feel better? D Laughing Um yeah I'll know by the votes L yeah but either way D I'll know by the votes. Votes tell all L It would have to be 4 to 1 D That's what I told Roddy. I told him I didn't know anything L Do you think he will push J? D No I'll tell J not to talk to him L I feel really good about getting rid of R this week D He knows that I'm out to get him. He knows and he knows that I know and He knows that I know he knows laughing L That's weird D Said that he has tried to approach her several times about me and she don't wanna hear it. L You have my back if Chi starts coming after me right? D I got your back L She is gonna come after me before R will D The reason I spend alot of time with her is so she feels comfortable. So if she comes after you don't you worry. I thknk Marc needs to go if the votes go the way I think they are going to go. He is Judas then L Yeah if he does have a deal with R then he was pretty convincing that he doesn't in the HOH D That's cuz he is concerned that we are on to him. We'll know L I made him feel like *beep* I was talking to Marc. and I brought up the supposed deal between Roddy and Gerry. I said G is just along for the ride with R and he is settling for 2nd place and he doesn't have the confidence to make it on his own. He (Marc) hung his head L Amy is going to hate us. She'll thank us later I think D She's gonna hate us but L This is the decision that feels right to me but I still don't want C in this house D I know but what are you going to do. >> Now wasn't that convo well worth reposting! LOL! Thanks to Strawberry for the LFPs! I am so happy this season has finally got going! It is turning out to be much more interesting on a lot of different levels than last year! |
Sunrise | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 02:53 am     isn't roddy sleeping in the doomed spot? this is truly a sign that he is going. Right? |
Oregonfire | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 02:55 am     Please make it be so. |
Gina8642 | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 04:27 am     I find it ironic that Lisa doesn't realize that Dani is doing the same thing with Marc that Chi did with Lisa. Lisa was very mad and hurt, that Chi didn't come to her when Chi heard that Lisa was supposedly out to get Chi. So, Chi then votes to oust Lisa. Now, Lisa uses that as a reason to be against Chi. Now, here is Dani, doing the exact same thing. Dani hears something that maybe indicates that Marc is against Dani. Instead of going to Marc and asking about it, she plots to oust Marc. My conclusion. Lisa is very easily swayed by others. She never is out there thinking for herself. She is letting all her opinions be colored by Dani. For the most part I like Lisa. I just wish she wuold get a spine. Roddy controls Chiara. Dani controls Lisa. It is sad. BTW - I don't think Marc spilled any important beans when he told Roddy that people in the house contemplated getting rid of him. So what? |
Wendo | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 04:53 am     Gina, Dani hasn't decided to get rid of Mar yet. She's just going to wait and see how Mar votes. In addition, Mar did spill quite a bit of beans to Roddy about people thinking to boot him last week (when the two talked at the HT). It was apparent when Rod was talking to Dani today. Finally, Mar said to Amy last night, they were aligning with Roddy, so, actually, Dani's instincts are right. You can also look at it this way. Mar is doing the same thing as Chi. He's given the impression all along to Dani that they would protect each other. So, Dani feels betrayed by Mar. (In fact, I think she does since she caught him in it via Roddy's talk today.) And, the same argument could be applied to Mar in that he could go and talk to Dani and ask her what's up. (His questions arose after talking to Roddy.) So you see, they're all doing the same thing. The argument (go talk to the person) could be applied to both Dani and Mar. I think Mar thought, oh, I can get farther with Roddy then I can with Dani. But, I do think he's reconsidering these thoughts, though I don't think he trusts Danielle. In addition, I think he's also realizing that Amy is not a practical partner. She's too easily swayed (he said that tonight), and her drinking really bothers him. Amy really isn't there to play the game. How can that help him advance? It can't. Lastly, no one STILL knows about Dani and Ja's tight bond. That's the one thing that neither of them have let slip. So, should Mar and Amy decide after thursday's HOH to approach Ja, I do believe he'd tell her. Lisa, I don't know. I think she feels better with Dani at this point (better than she'd feel with Rod). But, I do believe she isn't completely forthcoming with her. Lisa hasn't told Dani everything she's heard. (Good for Lisa though.) Again, the best bond in there is the Dani and Ja. It gives them the ability to gather info from anyone. The best thing they did was keep it under wraps, and continue to keep it secret. It really might get the two of them to the end. Dani and Ja have expressed loyalty to certain other HG's, but I do believe their first and foremost loyalty is to each other. |
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