Is Lisa the new "Dark Horse" to win?
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John32070

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 04:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
By Dark Horse, I mean someone who isn't that noticable who surprises to take the victory. For the past month, that role has been taken by Jason. But now with him as HOH and his fumble of the nominations (personally, I think this week is going to scar Jason the rest of the game and don't expect him to be the same from then on) no one seems to be paying much attention to Lisa. I really don't like Lisa all that well but I do see the possibility of her making it to the final 2.

Spygirl

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 06:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That is a good thought. She isn't in the spotlight at all lately. :) I wouldn't mind if she won.

Chelle

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 06:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't want to see Lisa win, because if she does it will be by default. I have said before that I see strings attached to her where Danielle is concerned. She will do anything and everything that woman says. "Keep your mouth shut and your eyes open." Yesterday Dani told her to make Roddy think he had Lisa under his thumb. If Lisa has half a brain she will realize that she is under Dani's thumb. If she really is smart she has been playing Dani. At least Jason has a mind of his own. His loyalty may be with Dani, but it does not mean that he won't have unique thought.

Blossumtree

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 06:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
does jason really have a mind of his own? i don't think not nominating Roddy proves that he does. before the noms he spoke with each houseguest privately and, until he spoke with roddy he seemed hell bent on nominating him. then he spoke to roddy. i saw the whole thing and it was almost unbearable to watch and listen too. roddy broke jason down. j tried to be strong and hold up his end of the conversation but by the end of it he was all Roddy's. that conversation really did sicken me and i lost some respect for both of them. I think jason's first mistake was saving roddy for last. he should have talked to roddy first, then moved on tho the rest of the houseguests which would probably have given him a chance to recover and remember his (dani's) objective. either way, he's a pawn to both of them.

Dee723

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 07:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason is a puppet pure and simple. He caved into Roddy and I was surprised at how weak he was during the whole process. He gave this game away this week and I haven't been able to watch the live feeds since he did it. I knew when he got POV he wouldn't use it. He's a nice kid but has no backbone.

I'm not so sure Lisa is Dani's puppet. She seems to have a mind and an agenda all of her own. I think if the moment came when she needed to break away from her she'd do it. Just the fact that she didn't vote Eric back into the game speaks volumes about her determination to win.

Blossumtree

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 07:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i agree dee, there's nothing wrong with lisa realizing dani's strength in the game and wisely choosing to align with her. in fact, i wonder if dani is changing her mind about who she wants to be in the final 2 with. i feel she may be very disappointed with jason right now and j really seems to have developed a strong bond with roddy after roddy psychologically raped him right before the nominations.

Spunky

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 08:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Chelle (from the thread Dani's Masterful Plan) you can see that Lisa refused to go along with Dani and Dani backed off.
So she knows when she's being pushed too far..

I like her and I hope she stays true to her game and not fold like Jason...

Muse

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 08:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Although I was disappointed, I don't think Jason's nominations have really affected the game that much. Roddy is still likely to go in the next couple of weeks. By pushing to get Amy out instead of Gerry, he's slowly burning his bridges with both Marcellas and Amy. And while Jason likes Roddy, I don't know if I see him voting to keep him over Danielle, Marcellas, or even Lisa.

I think Lisa's odds have greatly increased by joining up with Danielle. I'd still say that Danielle and Jason have a better shot at making the final two, but she's close behind, as is Marcellas. Amy and Roddy will have to work pretty hard to get that far.

Bastable

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 09:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yep (back to the topic at hand) Lisa is the dark horse.

As I pointed out in another thread, her name is not on any player's lips. Everyone is targeting someone else. Everyone is afraid of other people. But not her. She's flying completely beneath the radar.

The time she spent coupled with Eric succeeded in making her seem like she's a meek second banana, when she's not. Now no one thinks she's got the brains or the guts to play the game, when she does.

Look at the history of reality TV winners, and you'll see lots of people who flew beneath the radar: Tina Wesson, Vicepia Towry, Ethan Zohn, Dorothy on "The Mole 2," etc. etc. Not appearing too much a threat is the way to go, and that's what she's done. Lisa is in real contention to win.

Ark

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 09:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with everything that Bastable said and wouldn't mind at all if Lisa walked away with the money in this game.

Gramma

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 09:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa is def. playing the game and I'd be happy to see her win. I'd be happy to see Dani or Roddy win for the same reasons. I could also live with a Jason win, though I don't think he's played nearly as hard as the afore mentioned 3.

If, by some warped turn of events, we end up with Marcellas and Amy as the final 2. I vow not to watch the vote outcome or the next BB.

Are u listening BB? LOL..

Draco

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 09:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think any of them would really want to be paired with Lisa in the final two. She is too well liked by the HGs and is therefore a risk. I'd love to see her win but I doubt it.

Toolhound

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 10:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I would love to see Lisa win but I hope she can keep her mind on the game when she tries to play Roddy. Roddy psychologically raped Jason and who knows what he did last night when he slept with Marcellas. He already has Amy crawling at his feet will Lisa be next?

Bomom

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 11:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
While Lisa was growing a spine, Jason was losing his. She has stuck to her guns and kept her mouth shut while everyone around her was caving in. All of this while staying very unobtrusively in the background of the various melodramas going on. I would not be at all surprised to see her win.

Theo17

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 11:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
dark horse is a good term although according to lisa she prefers the term doggy. LOL (just a joke) I want her to win.

Maris

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 11:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa has always stuck to her guns and done exactly what she wanted to do. She just does it in a nice firm way. Lisa may very well win this thing because nobody in the house regards her as a threat. They think she hasnt been playing the game and is just too nice.l

Csnog

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 02:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa has been playing the game since Eric left.

I think she realized this fact when she had to vote whether Eric or Amy came back into the house.

I would like to see her in the final 2.

Oregonfire

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 02:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've always thought Lisa was the dark horse, or even the lead horse that happens to be invisible to the other HGs. I do like her better now than I did at first though. Lisa's not Little Miss Firecracker like Chiara was, but she has staying power.

Hotty_Toddy

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 02:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think Lisa is the dark horse to win. I think she's the front runner.