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Suitsmefine

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 08:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hillbilly, what happened all of a sudden you lost all our "ifns and yurns" (LM-big ol'-BO)....Iam in total agreement , our state is one of the best and I wouldn't want to be anywhere else in the world... Proud to be southern, proud to be a hick, proud to be Arkansan, and proud to be an American.....(GO HOGS!!!)

Suitsmefine

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 08:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hillbilly , I think we need to start a new show BB4in the Boondocks, talk about a "learning and growing experience"...LOL... oh wait that would be Survivor!!!

Dutchlizzy

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 08:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've got a lot of family that lives in the "country". I was not referring to her grammar, but rather her pronunciation, pegging her as a country girl, not a city girl. Yes, Memphis is a city. So I was trying to get a feel for whether she grew up with small town gossip and politics, or in more of a big city. I love my "hillbilly" relatives, and some of them do qualify for that often misused term. But life in the "country" is very different from a more urban life. I am seeking insight into Amy's past so as to better understand her behavior. The idea that she grew up in a more rural area (I believe she mentioned spending some of her childhood at her grandparents' farm) fits more with her character. Again, no insult was meant at all. Rather an observation of her, to my ears, beautiful country accent. I've got an aunt from outside of Macon, GA whose accent is music to my ears, and very country. My maternal and paternal grandparents are all from rural Georgia, some in the south, and some in the hills of the Northwest. I love Amy simply by association.

Hillbilly

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 08:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
dutchlizzy...i didn't take no offense...i'm not sure what your looking for as far as how behavior differs between small town or city...could you be more specific? Are you talking about her morals, her demeanor? And to tell you the truth, i've always lived in one of the larger towns....West Memphis, while not the size of Memphis, would not be considered a podunk town.

I'm not sure what the population of West Memphis is (I know...ending with a prepostion)...suits..Ark has already blown ma cover...

If you're referring to her statement that she lives in a mean, gossipy town...I would tend to think she is overplaying her hand. It would not be considered 'a town so small that everyone knows everybodies business'. I expect with her DWI's being published...most towns here make that public..her circle of friends/acquaintenances probably are mean and gossipy.

Ark

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You keep getting closer and closer to me Hillbilly. I'm only a couple of miles from Heber Springs. I go through a little town called Earl on the way to Memphis. Maybe Amy is from Earl, Arkansas. It looks small enough to be gossipy.

Dulci

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe she's from Marked Tree, it's on the way to Memphis and it has been a TERRIBLE speed-trap for decades. I've gotten two tickets there, and turning up my Southern accent to talk my way out of a ticket didn't work in Marked Tree like it did in Baltimore lol...

Dutchlizzy

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If she is from a small town, it is easier to be a VIP. If her daddy is a big fish in a small pond, it explains more of her behavior. She mentions pagents a lot. I'm trying to figure out if these are more like country fair pagents, or larger established things. She comes across as a daddy's girl who is used to getting her way. Talks about her daddy taking care of her money, and keeps mentioning her "banker" and her other banker, and his relationship to her father. If her family is important in a small town, or important in a larger city, it makes things more clear to me.

Most of my country relatives are church going people, and I don't get that from Amy. If she lives in a smaller rural town, is her dad (and therefore her family) the good important guy, a bad important guy, a relatively unimportant guy who wants to be important, or what. She seems more complex to me than most people give her credit for. I think a slower country way of life gives rise to people paying attention to each other and each other's dramas, families being closer, neighbors looking out for each other, serious squabbles over silly things, and a whole host of other social norms that one would not find in a city with a larger population. I think this is true whether we're talking about the south, the far northeast, the midwest, or out in the desert. Many of the others seem more urban to me, with the exception of Lori, who is gone, and maybe Jason. Roddy, Josh, Chiara, Eric all from the NY metro area. Gerry and Dani from I believe more urban CA, Marcellas from Chicago, and Tonya (I barely remember her) from Las Vegas. I think Danielle has the most evolved interpersonal skills, with Lisa not far behind.

Hillbilly

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
...LOL...Dulci...we's on to yourn tricks down here....:)

Bigd

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Marked Tree is on the way to Memphis from where, Dulci? I drive the 55S to 40W to 30W corridor back and forth all the time and I can't place Marked Tree. But I can certainly place many a speed trap and an accent won't nothing with those troopers. (They've heard it all before).

And Hillbilly - one of the best summers of my life I spent in Mountain Home. Great memories!

Puckerbutt

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hillbilly -

The word "is" is not a preposition - it is a verb.

For example, your ol' buddy Clinton was grammatically correct when he said - It depends on what the definition of "is" is.

Hillbilly

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ok..well if she's not referrin to West Memphis and a much smaller town then that's probably true..daddy's a big fish in a little pond. But I don't think so. She said her father owned a real estate business and you don't make a lot of money in real estate in a little town. My guess is she's grew up in West Memphis.

That said, I don't doubt that her father is well to do if he has an established real estate business in West Memphis. This would be an ideal area where folks who work in Memphis but want more of a laid back country place to live would probably find a great market.

I think Amy is not a little town country bumpkin...she is just an immature, spoiled rich kid who grew up never having to worry about never having enough and always getting what she wanted.

I am not intending to bash her. In fact I like her quite a lot. She has spunk to go back into a house with people who voted unanimously to evict her and weren't very nice to her before she left. She has an enthusiasm for life that she could certainly teach others. And I think she is very intelligent. She like that commercial...'go for the gusto'. I just wish she would get a handle on when to put the bottle down.

Dulci

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It's on hwy 63, like if you are coming from Trumann or Jonesboro.

Heh, an Arkansas accent will work if you are speeding on the Baltimore/Washington Parkway during the Clinton years. :)

Hillbilly

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
thanks Pucker...and for the record...we's real sorry bout that clinton mess we sent...and Hillary is not ours...she's from Chicago, Illinois! (some might even consider Hillary a carpetbagger..but that wouldn't be nice ;) )

Oregonfire

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Umm, a notherner here, hate to butt in, but "town" can indicate what is technically a city in casual conversation. All "towns" are small in one way or another. What is the estimated population of West Memphis? Just curious.

The town I grew up in was pop. 3500. Don't even get me started on small-town politics.

Bigd

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well actually a southern accent will just about get away with murder in Wisonsin and I use it frequently, I am ashamed to admit. My snowmobile broke down last winter and I went to a shop where there were 15 people lined up with their machines waiting for minor repairs and the guy dropped everyone and helped me on the spot - his explanation was he is from Alabama and my accent made him homesick, well then I poured it on really thick. Of course I went back later with some fried chicken and now we're best buds!

In truth though, most of the time I work really hard at a NOT having an accent since it can just as easily work against me.

Anyway, I used to work with a girl from a small town in Arkansas and Amy is EXACTLY like her.

Draheid

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hillbilly: Quit using that The dialectizer for your usual posts. The one above was much easier to read than normal, so I figure you must have forgot to use it this time. Thanks! :O

Hillbilly

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ooops oregon..sorry fer that carpetbagger remark :(
I don't know offhand...i tried to get to their chamber of commerce website but i timed out.

West Memphis would have to be at least 50,000, and i'm thinking whole lot more, being right across from Memphis. I know that have a semi-major airport hub there. I got stuck there back in the 80's flying back from Canada due to an air traffic controller strike in Chicago. Anyone remember those? I haven't been through there in a while...but Delta and American Airlines used to have stops there.

Dulci

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
well, my atlas is dated 1986, so this is dated. It says West Memphis pop. 28,138. I've never actually been in the town, it's just an long ugly chain of gas stations, fast food etc on the interstate. Oh yeah, and the stadium where they do the Greyhound Races.

Bigd

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
the interstate is always a mess there too!

Hillbilly

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
that has to be outdated...

draheid...that website is too funny....yeah i guess i'll tone it down since it seemed to annoy seamonkey....i think she said i was a terminal disease or something :)

Dulci

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bigd I have cousins just like Amy. :) I can put on and take off my accent too, had to growing up with Dad in the Air Force. I like going home for the holidays tho, it takes me a couple of weeks to shake it off.

Cliotheleo

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, I'm gonna have to disagree with my homegirl :) countrymeadow. I grew up in Chattanooga (East TN) and live in Nashville (Middle TN) (and believe me, the separate divisions aren't just something *I'M* making up, they're a BIG deal!) I've had several friends from Memphis, a few of whom required a translator for me to be able to carry on a conversation with them. (ha ha) ......... We used to joke all the time about them
"riding in their BRuick to the store to get some Mirk" ........... And Meadow, I appreciate your love of southern accents, but I must say, the accents of our Kentucky neighbors just to the north of us (Bowling Green, etc.) drive me INSANE! CAN'T STAND 'EM!!! (My apologies to anyone from KY.)

I used to work for the Tourist Bureau in Chattanooga and would spend my day answering phone calls from people who lived primarily around Nashville, Birmingham and Atlanta. Hillbillies correct, there isn't just ONE southern accent. I got to where I could tell where the caller was before they gave me their information (to have a packet sent to them.)

Now Georgia, THOSE are some pretty accents!

Oregonfire

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That's okay Hillbilly. I hope you aren't offended that I voted for Hillary when I lived in New York! gasp! It's true! Durn made me proud to vote for the first first lady senator. Yes, that really is how it's supposed to read.

IMO, 30,000+ could still be considered a town.

Hillbilly

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Clio...i went to college in chattanooga... it absolutely breathtaking there...

Bigd

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Right off the webpage for West Memphis
West Memphis 28,259
Crittenden County 49,939
White 56.4%
Black 42.9%
Asian/Pacific .4%
Hispanic .07%
Male 47%
Female 53%
Median Age 33.8
Median Income $20,948
Per Capita Income $9,334