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Archive through August 18, 2002
Guiltyviewer | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 04:13 am     Gotta luv 'em, C1mag!! They're like a comedy team with their timing and how they can feed off each other's lines so easily to create a whole routine. I'm loving eavesdropping on them, no matter WHAT they're talking about...nice change of pace from the past couple of weeks. Now let's hope Marc does decide to oust Mr. Roddy out the door...after all, as he said (over and over and over) tonight, he's just fine with leaving. (sure) |
Jan | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 05:28 am     Guilty, another example of Roddy's arrogance re his intelligence..the conversation re caviar. When Marc answered the questions correctly re sturgeon and the Caspian Sea both times Roddy's answers exhibited great surprise that Marc would know the answer at all. He really expected him to fail. |
Bracken | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 06:43 am     Hey GuiltyViewer, love this thread. Absolutely agree that this bashing over a minor slip is well deserved. More importantly, I, too have been guilty of mispronouncing "sychophant" as "sink-o", haha. There is much to be learned here at TVCH. It reminds me of the time I was attempting to sound smart (ala Roddy) and used the word "forte" pronouncing it "four-tay" and being brought up short by one of my friends who corrected my pronunciation re: "fort." Basically, since the very first week, I have listened to Roddy pontificate about various subjects and have been fairly annoyed. To that end, I attempted to find out where the heck he went to school and cannot find anything at any of the sites that I am familiar with about his educational background. I am really curious to know what College/University he attended, grade point average and major, being a definite plus. Does anybody know where I can go to satisfy my curiosity? Thanks. |
Guiltyviewer | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:02 am     Good Morning, Bracken! I've been trying to find out the same thing!! I do remember from a previous convo he had that his name "Roddy" is actually a nickname. His actual first name is "Richard" (Mancuso), and he's called "Richie" by most of his relatives---"Roddy" came later and is what he uses now. Don't know if that might help you narrow down your search---he's from Morristown, NJ, originally and said he'd gone to a college prep day school for high school--probably private (valedictorian per his buddies' televised interview). He's also commented that he's got a degree in Philosophy or Psychology (couldn't hear him w/background noise at the time--shucks!) I may try again to use some other avenues if I get the time---let all know if you turn up anything, too. And you should go back to your friend and tactifully inform them that you were correct the first time---you pronounced 'forte' as it is supposed to be said (look it up )....so if ya wanna go back to bein' a big Smarty Pants like you-know-who, well go for it! j/k |
Piratesbay | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:21 am     When Rodmaster-Ego-Iago was HOH his mom sent him a FRAMED copy of OUTSIDE magazine. It's an outdoors magazine. I had read somewhere else where this Einstein wrote or had agreed to write for a "travel-type" mag. When I saw the framed copy of the mag in the HOH (sent from his mom, and why else frame the d*** thing) I went to that site, but he hasn't written anything for them yet. I checked under Roddy Mancuso, and under Richard Mancuso and nada. Irony of all ironies, an Amy Mancuso did turn up. hahahahahahahahahaha Maybe he's been to Denmark....which may explain his love/hate relationship with the sex exploitation of chiara. |
Bbnan | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:28 am     Re: Forte When used as meaning a strong point it can be pronounced either way. The French say fort. In music it is pronounced fortay |
Guiltyviewer | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:36 am     Ooooohhhhh, good sleuthin' Piratesbay! I think it's kinda 'funny' (odd, not ha-ha) that a 30-yr old man admits he lives in a practically empty apt just blocks away from the BB house and doesn't own much else, his friends hint that he's had a lot of practice mooching off others and pretty much getting what he wants 'somehow', and he often talks about extensive travel and higher education. Nowadays it's hard not to leave a trail 'somewhere', especially for someone who would WANT folks to be able to reach him for his writing talents....to borrow my favorite line from "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" it just don't sound bona fide!! |
Marameko | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:36 am     One day Roddy was wearing a Lehigh University shirt. That is I think, is a fairly expensive, preppy school in Eastern PA. I was assuming that was where he had attended school given the rumor that he comes from $$$. I could be dead wrong. Regardeless, I just want the simpleton G O N E . |
Alaginger | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:39 am     I think a lot of mispronounciations have to do with the part of the country you are from. My hubby is from St. Louis, and after being gone from there almost 40 years, he still cannot control himself from saying he is going to warsh (wash) the car. I can't think of any other prime examples right now....but I'm sure there are a bunch. |
Krossd | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:50 am     C1mag - just after Amy joined that converstation between Lisa and Marc in HOH, did you hear Marc say (just lightly, i.e. not seriously) that he was leaning toward voting 'him' (out) - meaning Roddy? I heard it. I checked the LF's but it wasn't in there. (one of the posters swictched Cams just before it was said. Strawberry was the other poster of that conv. in the LF. I have done LF's so I know how difficult it is to get ever sentence in conv. like that. No one said anything to his saying this, like it wasn't picked up on (I thought it would be!). It wasn't a serious statement (at the time) and you know how Amy doesn't hear what others say (at times) and just continues on with what she is saying.... anyway I did hear him say it, soooo maybe that is what Dani will do... let Roddy show his true colors (hopefully) and maybe they will consider this way of voting(too). It's very slight I realise, since Amy wants Chiara out so badly, but it will cross at least M's mind again no doubt. Anyone else hear Marc say this about Roddy in passing during this conv.? |
Earthmother | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:00 am     My husband says clouset instead of closet. Many times my friends and I will pronounce words differently. Some pronounce words as they are spelled, however know the meaning of the word. When I was very young I was reading a contract which said if I worked Xamount of hours overtime I would receive a stipend. I had never heard that word before but knew it meant a bonus. In reading the word I assumed it was spelled with the i being pronounced as a long vowel. Years later when I was talking to someone and said they were gong to give me a stipend they corrected me and said the word was pronounced with the i as being a short vowel sound. I don't think mispronouncing a word is reason to believe someone is full of sh*t. If you ever watch the BBC they pronounce words differently than we do as well, usually where the accent is on the syllable. |
Jan | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:04 am     guilty since I always say forte (fortay) as well I looked it up also. Being Canadian, I looked in the Gage Canadian dictionary and it only shows your friends pronounciation (ie fort)I presume since we are a bilingual country and should know our French. I, then checked the American (webster) dictionary and it shows fort but then says OFTEN forte..(ie fortay). In other words, common usage has made fortay acceptable. In original meaning it comes from the French word for strength (fort..forte is the feminine version of the word). As bbnan above said the real fortay pronouncian comes from music..a tone played in a loud and forceful manner (of course, that probably originated with the French word fort also and just got mispronounced over the years so that now it is fortay) so you are nowadays correct to say fortay because you are American right and common usage there has made it OK? whereas I am still in the wrong, as in Canada it is fort. Another "so what" moment brought to you by Jan I am just trying out for Roddy's part once he is evicted! |
Earthmother | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:08 am     Well my forte is fort(Fort Ord, Fort Brag) cuz I love a man in uniform..lol |
Krossd | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:08 am     Outside the BB house I think someone would or might 'call' Roddy on some of his Bullsh*t knowledge. (he does have some learning/knowledge), but inside they just file it away. Some may get some of these 'things', while others (like Chiara) may not. So, in playing the game (wisely/cautiously) they are more likely not to say anything - not wanting Roddy to know they've got his number. Should be interesting if or when they get to the point where they begin to show their positions more clearly.... that is always a risk in there tho. |
Gina8642 | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:15 am     What is wrong with mispronouncing a word? I think it better to get out there and try to use some tough words then always to stick to the easy ones. I think sometimes I'm the only one on these boards that isn't offended by Roddy's quest for knowlegde and good conversation. Why is it acceptable in this country to bash people who are educated, or wish they were educated? Yes, Roddy can be condesending sometimes, but so can Gerry. Roddy is facinated by how the world works. Even if he doesn't always get it perfectly right, it is more interesting then be constantly facinated by what color Julia Roberts hair is today?? Personally I like both types of convo.s. Sometimes I'm in a light and fluffy mode, and sometimes I want to discuss world peace. Nothing wrong with it. |
Sawyou | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:17 am     Guiltyviewer said: "he was sooooo arrogant and seemed to delight in pointing out what he knew and others didn't, like a self-appointed fount of wisdom willing to share his knowledge with underlings!!" Actually it's "font" of knowledge, unless you live in the UK, which, you don't... I only mention it because it's on the topic of you correcting Roddy. |
Guiltyviewer | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:18 am     LOL, Jan!! I hate to disappoint you but don't think you'd qualify to replace His Highness...you actually make sense and weren't the least bit snobby, so you'll have to improve those traits if ya really want the part !! And I did a quick seach using Yahoo's dictionary feature (American Heritage Dictionary)---oddly enough it shows the 'for-tay' pronunciation as the preferred and the 'fort' as an acceptable alternative! I really do think many words are either spoken or spelled improperly often enough, and dictionary editors will eventually include the popular form, even though it's 'officially' incorrect. Then by being listed, the 'wrong' version can become the 'right' version. I'll bet Roddy could tell us all about this, don't you? |
Earthmother | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:24 am     Since everyone is correcting everyone else I just thought I'd let you know 25% of high school seniors can't read well enough to fill out a job application. There are more important educational issues than misspronouncing a word. Some of the most educated people I know are the most ignorant people I know. You may know everything there is to know about how the human body works and still not have enough sense to pour P*ss outta your shoes. |
Jan | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:26 am     sawyou & guilty My I just love this dictionary game (but let's not get too personal! ) Come to Canada Guilty. You obviously belong here. My Canadian dictioary very clearly shows a font of truth BUT a fount of knowledge!! Sigh once again I am a failure as a Canadian as I would have said font of knowledge. |
Jan | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:28 am     too true earthmother..In fact, all too often very true |
Eden | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:51 am     Fort is the correct pronuciation of forte if not the most frequently heard. Fount and Font have the same meaning and either is equally correct. Both alernately mean a type set, fount being the british spelling. Fount as a fountain or source is not strictly a british spelling. |
Earthmother | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:55 am     Sounds like a whole lot of Roddy talk to me!!lol |
Ginger1218 | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:56 am     I have actually never heard it pronounced fort - always forte (fortay) |
Spunky | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 09:01 am     Guiltyviewer, you should be my lawyer,you presented your case brilliantly...and I have no opposing statements whatsover. |
Guiltyviewer | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 09:02 am     Krossd, I agree that ALL the hgs behavior and interactions with each other are often adjusted from what they'd do on the 'outside'--that's part of playing the game--knowing when and what to say in response to the other players so as not to lose an advantage. ____________________________________________ Earthmother, I'm with ya cuz my fella proudly wore a uniform, too, and I'm still nuts about him after lots of years together! WooHoo! _____________________________________________ Gina, I might not have been as clear as I'd intended to be, sorry---I normally wouldn't bash someone EVER for just mispronouncing a word because we all do that, as is evidenced by the responses in this thread so far . Some of it can be attributed to regional difference/preferences and the fact that language is an ever changing entity---words come, words go, meanings change, pronunciations too. But as you said yourself, "why is it acceptable in this country to bash people who are educated, or wish they were educated?"---that's what offends me about RODDY! He wastes no time pointing out to the other hgs when they don't know what a word means or misspeak!! He ISN'T interested in "a quest for knowledge" in the house as much as he's focused on being nit-picky about his roommates' flaws and limitations (as he sees them.) He seems to me to believe that he is the only hg who has anything to offer that's WORTHWHILE. Sure the others might know things he doesn't, but 'so what' (sorry, couldn't resist ). And I'm with you about liking both types of convos---sometimes ya feel like a nut, sometimes ya don't!! My pals and I can chat up frivolous stuff like movies and pop music just as well as discussing knowledgeably about world events and scientific discoveries...it would be a truly boring world if we didn't have limitless options to explore and learn. The more the merrier! And to each his own according their OWN desires. ________________________________________________ Sawyou, here's a perfect example of what we've talked about already in this thread---BOTH spellings of fount/font are correct and in some reference books you'll find one as primary and the other secondary, others will have it reversed. And I wasn't pointing out Roddy's misspelling of a word but his mispronunciation, just because he repeated it and gave a look to the listeners that showed disdain because they didn't seem to be familiar with it (if you didn't see and hear him, it might not make as big an impression, too.) I personally don't care and am not judgmental with others because I'd hope for the same consideration and respectfulness when I misspeak. And that's my point---Roddy is NOT at all respectful of the others if/when they err. He seems to need to point it out to them---just like he did with the airline agent's *supposed* ignorance (a story he offered about HIMSELF I might add.) If he were less snooty about it, I wouldn't care a flip how much he mangled a word---but by him repeatedly seeking ways to point out how all of his house members are SOOOO BORING and certainly not of his caliber (or 'calibre' if you prefer cuz both are okay ) I felt it appropriate to point out his error. My original chuckle was more about the irony of the particular word he mispronounced since its definition so aptly describes HIM!(sycophant) ___________________________________________ Whew! You guys are sure keeping me busy this morning . Thanks for all the lively discussion---and I don't think less/more of any of you, and ask you to do the same for me! oooooo---BB just gave them an announcement so hopefully the fun will begin soon--see ya all around the board. Take care! |
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