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Gouraphik

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Interesting point, Biggusbrotherus. Mudslinging and namecalling is a dirty, rough, and rotten way to play. It's a nasty tactic, and simply a bad way to behave...but it has merit within the constructs of the game.

Even if their behavior is simply for their own amusement, or to ease their feelings of self-worth and whatnot, it's understandable. Horrible, but understandable. I don't like it, and yet I laugh at the odd mean-spirited joke, too. That's just the way it is. Humans suck, sometimes. :)

I guess the feeds should be rated TV-MA right now: the Terribly Vicious Marcellas & Amy show. But at least it's on at a late hour!

Wcv63

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Avery...you've got me. I have called Roddy all of those things. But I based this on his behavior, his attitude and his game playing.

I guess I should preface my remarks with "He is acting like a (fill in the blank). His behavior makes him seem like a (fill in the blank).

I will be more careful to make certain that in the future I define more clearly that it is the behavior being discussed.

Rain

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Avery, I absolutely disagree with what you wrote, and (I hope you don't mind me saying so), I think it borders on being sanctimonius . The contestants in this are "fair game" (within reason), afterall, they knew what Big Brother was, knew they are on the air 24/7, knew about the cameras, signed contracts, and they are adults. Their behavior and everything they do or say is part of the game.

Those in the public arena open themselves up to criticism. I post on a lot of Political boards and the stuff I see posted about politicians is a lot worse than this BB hg criticism. Politicians expect it and ignore it. The hgs will undoubtedly learn to do the same.

Ryanc2002

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ouch....

"Where's Marcellus?"

Amy: "He's in the DR crying because he's not the center of attention at this particular moment."

I don't care if she was joking... *snicker*

Biggusbrotherus

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Exactly, Gouraphik. Would I associate on the outside with folks like Marcellas and Amy who said such cruel things? Absolutely not. Ethically, I could not do it. But *aesthetically* -- within, as you say, the constructs of the game -- it's entertaining in a darkly humorous manner.

Aesthetics and ethics should be kept separate. Otherwise, there's not much in the world that can safely be laughed at. :-)

Saggkl

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Saying someone is a jerk an ass or I hate them is not saying I wish the fat ass would have a heart attack and I would like to jump on his fat ass and choke him to death......

Snee

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ryan, i think amy and marcellas are aware of who each other are. i think she would make that remark in front of him, actually.

Duchess

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Marc has lost it..he's talking to himself right now and taking indirect shots at Jason. He was showing pics of model before that and It was eerily psychotic.

Ryanc2002

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Snee - I agree. But there's a whole boatload of truth in her statement.

Gouraphik

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And we thought Nicole from BB2 was nuts! BB3 ups the ante once again! :)

Oregonfire

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What's also funny is that the exact same thing could be said about herself.

Avery

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wvc, though I appreciate your response, I want you to know that I was not directing my comments at things that you personally said. The fact is that in general I like to debate your posts because you leave them open to what this board is about in my opinion, debate. I am again, as I have since I first started seeing it, trying to point out that there are posts out there that are similar in nature to how Marc and Amy acted tonight. In my opinion they are not debatable. I don't personally see a lot of point in debating someones level of despise for another person. That is their opinion and I leave it that. I also for the record don't personally like it as I do find it similar to those two yucking it up in the hammock. Rain, of course I do not mind that you disagree with me or pointed it out. Most people I know disagree with me at one time or another, if not always, lol. It would be very boring to have all the same opinions in life. I personally agree with you that they have put their life out there for public display and are open to many a criticism. The point I was trying to make was that why is it wrong for those 2 people to do it but ok for us to it. Regardless of the fact that one is more toned down than the other.

Guiltyviewer

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ryan, your solution sure would make them all behave better!! Just wouldn't want ANYONE to hear such hurtful, spiteful remarks being said about them, especially making fun of Gerry's weight and body....if they were picking on his behavior, that might be fair game (no pun, honest) but NOT for his body type! No excuses!

Maybe BB could add another wrinkle in next year's game and have some kind of competition so that the winner could hear a prerecorded selection of what another hg actually said about them...to reinforce their true alliance or prove they've been duped!

Wcv63

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Avery...I am sorry it came out like I thought you were personally directing your response to me. Mea culpa. I was just admitting that I have engaged in the very behavior I was decrying.

Wendo

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Avery said, "The point I was trying to make was that why is it wrong for those 2 people to do it but ok for us to it. Regardless of the fact that one is more toned down than the other."

Avery, do you have the feeds? Did you hear the their words? Before I respond I'd like to know if you don't mind.

Creampuff

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What incident was it that occurred within the last couple of days that had Marcellas crying as he lay on one of the beds, talking to the girls? I can't believe I don't remember what it was. He seemed so hurt and they were consoling him. How would Gerry feel knowing he was the brunt of M and A wrath? What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Isn't that how that old saying goes? LOL The bottom line is that both M and A know better and they should definitely know that that is not going to enhance their chances with the jury or Gerry if he hears about any of it. Too bad.

Gouraphik

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That would be a cool idea, Guiltyviewer. It certainly would stir up the game! I think that video would be better than audio, though.

Rain

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
None of the mudslinging is as bad as what Josh did to Gerry, calling him a Nazi and his wife Eva Braun. I actually like Joshie, but he could be downright mean. But most human beings are capable of cruelty--and these guys are STRESSED so the limits they put on their behavior is crumbling away. (I don't know what the medical term is for it)

I like the way that Roddy is playing the game, and he uses little invective to do it, but I don't condem the others to hell for doing it. Roddy seems very centered and even he is beginning to crumble under the stress. I mean, God! He cried over Chiara's stupid Woobie blanket, which is very uncharacteristic of him. Roddy should not be crying over Chiara doing that! He should be analyzing WHY she did that!

Smrtass

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Stupid question: What's the HRD?

Wendo

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Rain, well, that's assuming his tears are real...

Wcv63

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Smrtass: High Rent District (The map and globe bedroom)

Uhoh

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
avery - i think it's odious when they do it because they are having a relationship inside the house. they eat together, laugh together, share things - we are anonymous spectators.

it's called two-faced, and it's personal with them.

that said, i would not utter the things they say about gerry about someone i didn't even know... and i've not read as much vitriol on these boards (maybe the posts were deleted!) as i've heard from marcellas about gerry.

Creampuff

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
HRD = High Rent District

Gramma

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
justice might me a scenerio where after their own eviction, while on "Julie's couch", to be shown a snippet or two from one of these mean rant sessions, knowing all America was seeing it at the same time, and being asked to justify their behavior. I know it would never happen, but I'd love to see it played out that way.

Avery

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, I do Wendo. And it made me ill as it does the majority of you. I let the feed time out. Similar to me choosing to stop reading certain threads. I absolutely realize that it is much worse to tell someone that you wish for them to die than to say you hate them. I personally do not find either enjoyable, was simply my opinion.