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Laffy

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 02:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
wcv,

what if marc wins it and takes out amy? why would he take out roddy if amy is up?

Wcv63

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 02:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If Marc wins it he will take out Roddy because he has an alliance with him. Amy may be his g/f but Roddy has promised to take Marc to the end.

If Marc does take out Amy then I have no clue except to revert to putting up Gerry with the knowledge that Jason can break a tie and get out Roddy.

Alaginger

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 04:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Jason should put up Roddy and Gerry with the bull's eye on Roddy. I'm afraid if Gerry is not on the block with Roddy, he might VETO Roddy if he gets the chance. That would leave Marcellas and Amy on the block, and Roddy back in the game. I don't think Amy or Marcellas would VETO Roddy if given the chance knowing that their personal playmate would go in Roddy's place.

Romans8_1

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 05:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy is definately on the block. I think most of us agree on that. The stategical part is who is up with him ...

I think Gerry. You tell Gerry not to use veto because R is the target. You give M/A a litte peace of mind and let them wonder if they are near future targets. They will think by putting Gerry up, that Gerry will be gone next week. You also tell M/A that if either on gets veto and uses it, their partner goes up.

No matter how you slice it, Either M/A/R is going this week. I have not thought of a scenerio where all three can be saved if they are targeted. You have the votes D/L to force a tie and Jason chooses. They pretty much have this locked this week. No need to campaign for votes or strong arm.

I also agree that J will say it in such a way that no one takes it personally (or shouldn't). He'll be very matter of factly (and apologetic) and say that it was pully stategy getting the strongest player out.

Bernie

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 05:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I've been puzzled about Jason for a while now-I really love the guy, but I've wondered why he seemed to like Chiara and Roddy so much.

I'd have thought that he'd be disgusted at the way Roddy has used Chiara, especially in the last few days when he basically gave her the shove, and is now crying over her.
One of the male contestants on No Boundaries, who was a lot like Jason, actually ggot rid of the most popular, nicest guy, who was the most useful in the very hard trek they were on, because he was upset that he was hitting on a married woman.
He was quite open about the reason he picked him to go, when he had the power.
Wouldn't Roddy's actions go against the grain for Jason?

And then his crush on Chiara-I have been totally unable to get that, again especially since he was disgusted over that girl talk the other night, and also because of her getting on his case all the time-it seems weird to me.
Another thing is that after Amy left he said that he was glad that there was another Southerner in the house so that people wouldn't think all Southerners were like Amy.
It's as if Amy's drinking was a worse sin than Chiara's looseness.
Tonight when they were playing cards in the LR right after the show, he said quite sharply to Amy- don't scream.
There was an ooh and then something about Jason being the HOH now, bossman sort of stuff, from I think Marcellas and Roddy, but that surprised me too, because although I can see Amy getting on one's nerves, you'd think that with her more 'normal' morals, he'd respect her more than Chiara.
I didn't like Chiara, I admit, but I'm not too impressed with Amy either, and Jason's choice of female friend in the house has surprised me all along.
It makes me wonder if he was influenced by Chiara and Tonya's dislike of Amy right at the beginning, before he knew what they were all really like.
It's all very strange to me, and I actually wonder if he sees Chiara as a Mary Magdalene figure, who needs to be saved from her life of sin.
Anyway, because of his attitude towards her, I don't think he'd have any trouble nominating Amy, nor Marcellas, for that matter, but why would he have any trouble nominating Roddy this time? It's a sure thing that Roddy would be gone, if Jason-and Danielle-played their cards right.
I'm absolutely dying to see what will happen today!

<Sorry to be so long-winded. I had to go snooze after the eviction, and when I woke up and tootled around doing catch up on chores, my mind was whirring with all this stuff-this game is driving me bonkers, LOL!>

Maris

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 08:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
My view on why Jason is more attracted to Chiara versus Amy is that both Jason and Amy are from the south. He has probably met millions of Amys, right down to the beauty pageant hostess in her. Her negativity aside, Amy strikes me as being very southern in terms of witholding her expressions of anger when confronted, etc.

Chiara is something that I am betting he never met before and he is fascinated and drawn to her. Chiara is an exhibitionist and not circumspect at all which is something that Jason is just not used to. Jason and Chiara remind me of a news story I saw about Amish teenagers. They go to town, drink have fun but when it is time to settle down they go back to their way of life. Chiara was Jasons view of the wild side but it is not what he would settle down with that is for sure. He even said as much to Chiara last night.

Troublejch

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 08:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Laffy,
Sorry for the confusion. Yes, I meant the example to apply if they were on the block and took Roddy out, then their partner-in-crime would be put up. I realize now I didn't make that very clear.
And, if either of them won it off the block and took out the other, Roddy would still go. If they won it off the block and took out Roddy(and left their partner on the block), their partner would then be the main target.
Unfortunately, Marc is a loose cannon at this point. He did agree with Roddy the other evening about the 2 of them going to the finals. We just have to see if he was covering his rear, or really agreeing to this. Would he dump Amy in favor of saving Roddy? And, if he and Roddy made it to the final 2, who would Amy vote for?

Bernie

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 11:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for the perspective, Maris. That's an aspect of the situation I hadn't considered, but I still don't understand why he likes Roddy-I guess Marcellas and Amy aren't the only ones he's managed to charm!

Patman

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 12:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
When are the nominations going up?

Allietex

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 04:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think you get Jason's and Dani's alliance. Dani concentrated on Marcellas, Lisa, and Amy while Jason made Roddy and his group believe he was on their side. The votes have fallen to make Roddy still belive that. His only moment of doubt about Jason was the vote on Eric. His friendship with Roddy and Chi was a smokescreen. I don't think he really has a crush on Chi. He was just being kind and it was one way to diffuse chi's flirting, Which btw in the real world would constitute sexual harrassment. Jason will dump Roddy just as soon as it is necessary which will be this week. I think he is leaning toward Amy and Roddy and hoping no one will POV Roddy. I really believe Jason is the one person who is not swayed by Roddy's charm.

Allietex

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 06:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Brother was I off base! Jason just blows my mind. How in the world can he trust Roddy over Gerry. Roddy told him he did not have a deal with anyone else in the house except Dani, (to not nominate her) but we all saw him make a deal with Marcy in the hot tub. I though Jason was smarter than that. If Roddy gets HOH next week, Dani is toast. I don't believe Roddy will honor his word. He's told so many people that he is with them there will be no one for him to nominate if he keeps his word to all of them, and poor Gerry has no one that will vote for him or veto him. He is out! It is a shame. The only good thing is maybe the bashing will stop.

Kitty54

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 01:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, since I started this thread, allow me to say the J/L/D alliance has lost me. I was there biggest fan, because I thought they were really playing the game. Danielle has been so wishy washy, this past week and made so many promises that made absolutely no sense, that she lost me as a fan. I had a moment, when Jason won, that I was ready to forgive that and trusted Jason to get things back on the road. Then Jason's nominations prove he has no backbone (like Danielle, I must say). So where does that leave us? We have a master manipulator, a spoiled brat, a drama queen, a spineless boy, a woman that falls into bed with someone she just met, an older guy that they just don't like because he didn't wash his hands and the mom who can't make up her mind and stick to her decisions once they're made. Last year, I stopped watching when it came down to the lying rich kid and the neurotic ••••, so I think I'm out of here again. Why is it that the "good people" never get anywhere in these games? Is that just life?

Kitty54

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 01:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
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