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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Archives One: Jason is talking to everyone-will it change things?: Archive through August 23, 2002

Bbrules4ever

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 02:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
oooohhhh....jay getting ready to talk to rod....this should be good......somebody pop the popcorn!!!

Maris

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 02:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree, Roddy is going to spill all to Jason. Should be very interesting.

Superstar

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 02:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ja has made a couple of (joking) comments to dani about putting her up. i think he might do it but not against r because he knows who would be out and dani would get him back

Meggieprice

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 02:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Mink- It is the way Roddy does it! It is emotional manipulation of the worst kind.

Goddess- I think you are right that it should be Marc, but Jason is worrying me right now NOT asking Gerry to promise not to use veto. I think his weakness is showing and he may regret it.

Seamonkey-I had forgotten that Amy told Roddy she would walk if they got nominated together...thats another reason Marc should be the one.

Goddessatlaw

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 02:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is Dani still in there, or is she hovering at the keyhole? It's GOT to be one or the other.

Maris

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 02:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
he got a "I am probably not going to use it" on the veto from Gerry.

Carrly

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 02:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What was Jason just talking about just now (in convo with Ger), that Roddy had people doing his "dirty work"? Jason said he's "learned some things today" about Roddy. What did I miss?

Minkster1973

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 02:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And I suppose that it isn't emotional manipulation when Danielle whines about not being able to go home without the money because she couldn't face her family?

She needs the money so bad.....did anyone else notice the beautiful china hutch behind her hubby in the interview last night?

Meggieprice

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 02:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani went outside to lock Lisa in to place, Goddess, under the guise of doing laundry!

Bizee

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 02:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
dang dang dang, have to pick up kids will miss the R/J convo. take good notes please!

Meggieprice

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 02:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Mink- I am talking about a different kind of emotional manipulation- seeing who a person is and playing to those vulnerabilities to reel them in. Not playing on their sympathy. Very very different.

Mar-what will Roddy spill that Jason doesn't know?

Llkoolaid

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 02:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What scares me is that Roddy is going to be the last one to leave an impression on Jason.

Auntie

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 02:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've been dying since last night to learn about a Jason-Roddy exchange! I believe Roddy has always "presumed" that the kid Jason was whole-heartedly with him. Roddy seems always to assume that his viewpoint is the only logical viewpoint. He thinks Jason betrayed him because Jason didn't do what Roddy wanted. He's never even acknowledged that he might have assumed too much about Jason's intentions. I only have the postings here and elsewhere to go by (no live feeds), but all the postings I've read suggest that Jason used Roddy's own gullibility as shelter.

Minkster1973

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 02:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, I must have missed something. What weaknesses has Roddy brought out and used against people?

If Marcellus and his little crush is what you're talking about.....I don't think Marcellus is falling for it. He still talks about how Roddy needs to go. And Amy......well, she's getting the attention that she's wanted from the beginning from Roddy. She wanted this to happen in order to drive Chiara crazy on the outside.

I personally think that Roddy feels a general obligation to team up with Lisa now because of his friendship with Eric. I'm pretty sure that was discussed before Eric left. How awkward (and stupid) would it be to totally manipulate Lisa now, when he has intentions of hanging out with Eric on the outside (and probably assumes that Lisa will be a part of their clan).

Wendo

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 02:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Why does everyone think that Dani will turn on Jason? I just haven't seen any indication of that. Of all the alliances we've seen in that house, it has survived and been strong. Will those decrying her come back and give her props if Dani does get the final HOH and chooses Jason?

In addition, I don't think Dani is telling Jason what to do. He has invited her suggestions several times. And, she said, whatever you do Jason, I'll support. I just haven't seen, from watching the feeds, her tell him who to vote. She's offered suggestions and possibles, but, imo, it seems that Jason is going to make the decision.

Give the guy some credit, he knows how to play this game.

Litafreak, Of course Dani's going to lie to Roddy that she wants him out when he asks her directly. I would too. Roddy's made it quite clear that he wants Dani out. He's intimated it very subtley to Amy and Mar. Why do you think those two want her out so bad? Dani's under no obligation to Roddy to tell him her strategy.

Minkster1973

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 02:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Now Jason's excuse for going after Roddy is that he's had others do his dirty work. This cracks me up. He should put up Danielle for the EXACT same reason then! lol I do believe that he has done the same thing himself....through Danielle.

Jan

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 03:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OK watch Roddy skate now and tell lies while he is at it, blaming everything on Chiara.

But my God, Jason has trouble with speaking his mind. He really is no match for Roddy. Roddy says lots very clearly..Jason mumbles and says very little..just hems and haws and never gets his point across.

Jason could never win a debate against Roddy. I hope Jason sees what a danger R is to him in the game

Demeter

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 03:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy is angry! He is being too strong and I don't think Jason is going to cave.

Bbrules4ever

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 03:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
RODDY furious with Jay!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Minkster1973

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 03:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Why?!?!?!? What's being said???!??!

Maris

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 03:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy tells him this is like Josh is back in the house and that Jason would listen to gossip. Roddy is fighting back hard. If we are going to go right back into this crap.....Jay there are plenty of things that have been difficult with you and I have given you as much leeway as possible and to think that this is going to backfire on me then I should have been more of a prick. Roddy is good. If that is going to send me home that is a terrible reason to put me back up.

Minkster1973

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 03:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Everyone needs to log in to the IRC chat module so we can chat more....I'm really digging this....even the people I have disagreed with. This has been a pleasure.

Wendo

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 03:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
How many times this past week has Roddy said Jason is untrustworthy? Many times. He has just blantantly lied. I'm surprised. I never thought he would.

Biggusbrotherus

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 03:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy is a master of the "moving target defense" -- if he gets past Jason this week, Roddy deserves the $500,000. He slings fast, and he slings convincingly.

But Jason isn't backing down. Yet.

Katrina

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 03:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason is doing a great job of opening up a hole for Roddy and letting him walk himself right into it! Jason is testing Roddy, and Roddy is failing brilliantly! I am very impressed with Jason at the moment.