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Archive through August 22, 2002
Whit4you | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:41 pm     Theo - I've seen your game played a few times on this years BB ... But it don't work for me personally When someone gives me their word on something which is the complete opposite as their word to someone else - they are lying to one person or the other. She kept her word to Amy - yes. She ensured Chaira's exit. She did NOT however keep her word to Chaira to 'watch her back' - and all the other jazz she told to Chaira - because Dani ensured Charia's eviction. To me personally there is NO grey area here - none at all. You can't promise me you will not steal from me - and I trust you - give you the keys to my house. You give those keys to a friend - they steal me blind - and YOU benefit from it. Then tell me you kept your word and did not steal. Men hiring someone to kill their wives and visa versa try this defense all the time "I didn't do the killing" I just had someone ELSE do it so therefor I am not guilty. I have an alibi. Dani's alibi was voting for Rod - she had Chaira evicted - that plain and simple. |
Theo17 | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:43 pm     whit jason, danni and lisa made it quite clear they wanted to vote roddy out. even marcy did . The only reason they didnt was because of amy. Amy also made gerry give his word to get kiki. You can slice it any way you want but we all saw it. If you dont like the facts then spin all you like. I was obviously speaking of this week not last week vs josh. This will be my last post to you. Its obvious you just want to argue. |
Whit4you | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:43 pm     Theo - quite clear with a 5-0 vote last week your right!! |
Jaysgal | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:45 pm     "the same 2 might have got nominated but it would be roddy leaving. Nobody voted their heart but danni. the other 4 did it for amy. They all wanted roddy gone" Excuse me, Theo17? And where did you get that from? From what I read, first off, Jason made no promises to Amy. In fact, Amy said she wasn't sure of how Jason would vote and she didn't pressure him at all. In fact again, the person who made a promise was Danielle!!!! She made the promise but voted opposite. But supposing that were irrelevant, how could you prove that it was Amy's pressure that pushed Jason to vote as he did? There are two other factors: Danielle and Chiara. Chiara pushed him to save Roddy and sacrifice her. Danielle ordered him on what direction to go. To put it in her words: OPPOSITE! Are we suddenly supreme beings to know which one of the three influenced Jason? And who says they are mutually exclusive? As for Lisa, at least BB would want us to believe that Lisa had a mind of hers and was in a 50/50 situation. Lisa herself would want us to believe that she had every intent to avenge Chiara's betrayal of Lisa. So, again, what makes you so assertive that Amy is absolutely responsible for all of their decisions? So, suddenly, Danielle is this great, tenacious heroine and the rest are cowards or distraught, weak soldiers? :roll: |
Lilacs04 | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:45 pm     Whit, I agree! Why hate Amy for DANI's misstep (I'm speaking in general, not about anyone specific) ? I think Dani went about this all wrong. I think she should've tried to persuade Amy from the beginning of her HOH reign to oust Roddy. Maybe Amy wouldn't have listened and nominated Chiara and Jason but since Dani planned to boot Chiara right after Roddy, what did it matter anyway? |
Azriel | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:46 pm     Okay, Dani didn't lie...she's just two faced. Does that make you all feel better? It's the same thing in my book. You can dance around the words but the meaning was there and very clear. Dani chose to play it that way and it is going to come back to bite her in the butt. |
Theo17 | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:48 pm     jays gal i didnt say jason spoke to amy. He did it because danni told him to. danni told him to because she assured amy of 3 votes. Danni never promised to vote out kiki herself. all she promised amy was that kiki would go that she had the 3 votes. danni kept both promises although she shouldnt have made either. If you people think gerry, jason, lisa and marcy wanted to keep roddy then go for it. Amy had nothing to do with it. Do you believe in the easter bunny also? |
Tooty | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:49 pm     its not Amys fault, its their own faults. they should have gotten rid of Roddy long ago. They made their own bonfire and now they are all gonna be toast while Roddy walks away with the $500,000. |
Strkaholic | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:51 pm     Ok..everyone step away from your keyboards, take 3 deep breaths, do it again for good measure, come back and get along! LOL! |
Azriel | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:51 pm     I think Gerry wanted to keep Roddy over Chiara. He has made deals in the past with Roddy and knows that he can trust him. I think he knew he wouldn't have any ally in Chiara. She was also too emotional and erratic for Gerry to read. |
Wendo | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:52 pm     Azriel, I don't think Amy has ANY obligation to help others win. Not at all. But, she's been pretty clear that BB, to her, is nothing more than the MTV Beach House Party. She may say to Mar that she's there to play, but she really isn't. It's Rah, Rah, party, party, Roddy. I think that attitude can be aggravating to watch for people. |
Sisalou | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:53 pm     Strkaholic, I'll co-sign that! |
Nimtu | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:53 pm     I'm with Strkaholic! Come on guys it's just a game. Next ya'll will be knocking Santa Claus! |
Strkaholic | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:54 pm     ROFLMAOPIMP Nimtu!!! I needed that. |
Theo17 | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:54 pm     nim i wouldnt knock santa claus but you can be darn sure roddy would bash him to everyone else. LOL I agree calm down |
Whit4you | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:57 pm     Dani had NO right if you as so many claim everyone wanted Rod out (all those who voted to keep him IN just days prior!!) to give HER word that they would vote him out!!! My problem is - I was never an Amy fan... not at all and I'm not now... but I'm an Amy defender because she aint here to speak for herself and people here are so twisting reality... painting her as bad because she's 'infatuated' (as if that's a bad thing at her age with a man like that) and as spoiled...because she... like everyone else wants their way in this game... as the sole reason why Rod is still in the house. I believe it's because people are so anti-Rod and wanting him out even though these pansies can't vote him out so don't deserve to win - that they want to blame SOMEONE and because SHE is the only one of them who had the guts to even PUT him up - blame her cause SHE wanted Chaira to go and not him and THEY once again kept him in the house. I was so anti Roddy from the first few days.. until that 5-0 vote...after that I was cheering Eric into that house - hoping that Rod gets the last laugh and reminds them ALL of the 5-0 vote..gee how bad did you want out the worst threat in the game??? Not that bad it seems..my GF put me up on a silver platter for you and YOU ALL proved how good I play this game... I'd like the folks who are all a sudden anti-Amy to think about 'displaced pain' it's a medical fact..and I think it's a fact in this case as well. Amy is no diff then she was before back when she had (I still dunno why) so many fans here..now in so many threads she's treated like a villain. All cause Roddy is back in and people want to blame someone besides the ones they want to win this ..WHO keep - voting to keep him in. |
Nimtu | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:57 pm     Might not bash him Theo but I bet he'd talk him into giving him all the kid's loot! Night guys. |
Azriel | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:58 pm     Tooty, Roddy won't win the $500,000. He's going to give the rest of them a hell of a time trying to win it, though. Lisa is not firm in Dani's camp and I think she has had a lesson in how much she can trust Dani with this last vote. She saw Dani's two faces and I think she was taking notes. Dani and Jason better hope that Lisa is an obedient little lamb because if Lisa strays from the pack just once they are going to be packing and waving bye bye. |
Meggieprice | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:59 pm     Somehow, Dani is blamed for giving her word to Amy and then wanting to renege, but it is considered ok that Amy threw her arms around Dani and promised not once but twice to help get Roddy out next if Dani would just get Chia out when she has no plan whatsoever to do so. By the way, I have noticed several people have meaningful strategy exchanges with Amy when she is toasted drunk. That seems really unwise to me! |
Misslibra | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:59 pm     Who is trashing Amy? I don't see that. I do see people expressing there opinions about her actions. Some are pro and some aren't. Let's not start throwing the word around that people are trashing Amy because they don't agree with some of the things she have done. Is everyone going to agree about it nope, and to expect them to is not being realistic. Everyone have a right to their opinion without being accused of trashing someone. And Amy was acting like a spoil little girl. She got her wish to get Chiara out of the house and she was still walking around pouting. And theres nothing wrong with having a crush on Roddy, but she is letting that crush control her game IMO. |
Wendo | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:00 pm     Giving your word to use your vote to get someone out vs giving your word to make sure someone gets out are two different things. It may be semantics to some, but imo they're two different things. Again, Dani never promised Amy HER vote, only that the three votes for Chiara's eviction were there. These are the facts, spin them any way you want, but the facts are there. |
Whit4you | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:00 pm     Nim your right it is just a game - but these people may read this - and so might their families and these ARE real people with REAL feelings you know - it's not a 'soap opera' with actors - these are real folks... and seeing all this Amy hate today well...someone does have a right to defend her... People are understandably frustrated - as I was when I thought (pre 5-0 vote) that they might really blow their one chance to get Rod out... but lets put the blame where the blame lies and NOT on Amy. That's all. |
Whit4you | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:02 pm     Wendo - I totally agree with you Dani did not break her word to Amy - she broke it to Chaira and USED her allies/friends to do so. Which to ME is worse then her having broke her word to Amy. |
Lilacs04 | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:03 pm     "Somehow, Dani is blamed for giving her word to Amy and then wanting to renege, but it is considered ok that Amy threw her arms around Dani and promised not once but twice to help get Roddy out next if Dani would just get Chia out when she has no plan whatsoever to do so" Meggie, I think the diff is that Danielle never intended to vote Chiara out. I honestly believe that before Amy heard of Danielle's scheming from Marcellas, she'd have voted to boot Roddy for Danielle. "By the way, I have noticed several people have meaningful strategy exchanges with Amy when she is toasted drunk. That seems really unwise to me!" ROFL!! |
Wendo | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:03 pm     Azriel said, "Lisa is not firm in Dani's camp and I think she has had a lesson in how much she can trust Dani with this last vote. She saw Dani's two faces and I think she was taking notes." Lisa knew what Dani was going to do according to a prior post. While Lisa may not be firm in Dani's camp (I think she's firm with herself and nobody else), I don't believe she is angry with Dani for her vote. |
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