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Lombadier

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 04:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I like Gerry and hope that he makes it to the Final Two. Yes, he has some bad habits, but so does everyone else. I would much rather see him win than Chiara or Danielle.

Realtvfan

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 05:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wcv63

My days in grade school were exactly all the problems you could imagine from the bigger kids in class.

I learned to walk upright as best I could with training I went out and got on my own later in life, but I still have to consciencely think about each step when I want to be certain I'm walking as best I can.

Watch Gerry when he is tired. When I'm tired my situation still gets worse, because I'm not thinking about walking with the best posture I can.

Even today, people whom I meet me for the first time do sometimes quietly ask me if I recently had a broken leg or something because of the way I walk. That is how I know I must be tired and walking with less than correct posture, just as you described Gerry.

Once I give a 10 second explanation, 98% of people just accept it and never mention it again.

I never tell people/coworkers to mind their own business. I usually do just the opposite. I ask people that if they notice my posture looks bad some days at work to please let me know. I appeciate the feedback because I work with an office building with thousands of people.

Niceguy

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 05:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gerry is on to these folks. He's playing the game as if its a game of inches because it is. Go Gerry.

Wcv63

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 05:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for taking the time to explain it to me Realtvfan. I appreciate your response. I really like you because in an earlier post you inadvertently made me 20 years younger! It was fleeting.....but thanks! :)

Bbdiva

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 05:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Realtv thanks for educating some of us. I like to know why things happen and try not to be to nosy about it, however since I don't live with the problem I have no way of learning anything other than textbook knowledge about the trait with out asking. Thanks for sharing

Hohoho

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 05:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Add me to the list of Gerry fans. I believe he most certainly is aware of what the other HGs whisper about him behind his back but just keeps it in perspective. He is playing strategically instead of emotionally. The other HGs could learn something from his level headedness. I hope he makes it to the finals!

Go Gerry!

Willow_Woman

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 05:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree. Hear hear Bernie! As a teacher myself, I so admire Gerry! (I couldn't do what he does---as much as it shames me to say it.) It takes a special person to teach physically/mentally challenged children. To do it for any length of time you have to have A LOT of love in your heart for these kids. (It certainly ISN'T the pay!!)

As for Gerry complaining about some of the parents...I feel his pain (to use a Clinton-ism). Maris said you have to teach the parent *and* the child. Well, in a perfect world that would be the case. However, if real life, that's virtually impossible---especially in the kind of school in which I teach (inner-city, rough, Title I). (Especially when some of your parents are: crack addicts, in prison, prostitutes, drug dealers, mentally unstable, or abusers.) We barely have the time/energy to teach the *children*---now you want me to reform the parent as well? Can't do it. (That's why community education/parent education programs are needed.)

Sorry to get off the subject...

Anyway, love Gerry. Love Jason. Rest are just shallow fluff.

Seamonkey

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 05:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Gerry has as much right as anyone else to be there and even to win. Like everyone else in the house, he's made some mistakes and done some nice things. He seems to be vilified more than is warranted.

Earthmother

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 06:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I also teach LD (learning disabled) in an inner city school (8th grade). Even when community ed and parent ed programs are offered most don't show up. In response if Gerry knows what is going on and what is being said about him: You bet he does. One thing about a special ed teacher is that nothing gets past them. They have eyes and ears behind their heads. They also know that to approach this kind of situation in a confrontational way is explosive. He is teaching by example. He is in the house with people who are developmentally middle school age and so he is in his element. I said a couple of weeks ago that Special Ed Teachers know how to pick the sh*t out of bullsh*t and I meant it.

Allietex

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 06:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Earthmother, You just made a statement that I have been thinking for weeks. The mental age of many of the hgs is MIDDLE SCHOOL. I have taught first and second graders for 30 years and I would have made any of them that acted like these people go to time out for a LONG TIME! Gerry and Jason are the only ones who have shown the slightest maturity. I hope it is those two at the end and I will be pulling for Gerry.

Willow_Woman

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Holy Cow Earthmother and Allietex! You've hit the proverbial nail on the head! Yes! I teach 8th grade also...and yes, yes, yes, these hgs ARE very similar to my middle school students with regard to mental age. Wait a minute, this is a scary thought!!! Hmmmmm. What does that say about T.V., our society, etc. etc.?

Kminfinity

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow~

Lots of middle school teachers here. Add me to the list. Most of the HGs are exactly like adolescents.... cases of arrested devlopment, who all want to get to sit with the cool kids at the cool kids' table....

Willow_Woman

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kminfinity...I know this is going to sound like I'm stereotyping (because I am! ;-) But could they be "cases of arrested development" because they all are so "beautiful." I've noticed over the years that the "beautiful" children tend to rely on their looks...and be slower in developing in the compassion/personality/character department.

They just seem to get away with so much more. (Actually, now that I think about it...I remember in graduate school reading about this...the teachers observed tended to let the prettier/more handsome students get away with more.)

Just a thought...

Bernie

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow! I'm so happy to see so many of us of like minds! :-)
I've also toiled in an elementary/junior high school, as well as being a Mom and Grandma, and to me, Gerry is just being a perfect teacher...he knows what's going on, but doesn't get involved, just watches, listens and keeps himself above it. I appreciated those who were worried on a previous thread, about the effect the lack of respect shown to Gerry would have on his career. If I were a school trustee or principal, he would be at the top of my hiring list, based on his graceful behaviour in the BB house - I hope he manages to make it to the end!

Gina8642

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 09:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bernie

I like your spin on that. It really makes Gerry shine. No, he isn't perfect, but he does have the patience of Job. Pretty amazing really.

Willow_Woman

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 09:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bernie...in total agreement with you there...his behavior has been graceful. I also hope he makes it to the end.

Bernie

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 09:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gina - that's probably THE most important quality a teacher needs - patience, that is! :-)

Abby7

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 09:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have always felt that one of the problems that faces us today is the education of our children. Why do we pay our teachers so little? That is one of the main problems in society today imo.

Maris

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 09:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gerry's behavior graceful???? Was this in between the farting and the spitting into garbage cans? Or maybe he gracefully threw his sweaty clothes into the clean clothes dryer?

Abby7

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 09:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
(just so you you know the above was a joke for gerry's sake...it could not fit on a t-shirt).

Abby7

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 09:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have always felt that one of the problems that faces us today is the education of our children. Why do we pay our teachers so little? That is one of the main problems in society today imo.

Abby7

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 09:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
well, in this case "the below message"...how did that happen? oh well. *truly i typed the last message before the other one...oh well.

Whit4you

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 09:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I like Gerry - have since the beginning - what I find amazing though based on what I know of him and his actions / and so on in that ouse that he's got such a large fan base outside and so few anti-Gerry people.. I think the only reason for that is because after week one he was such a target by those most out here didn't like ... that they duidn't focus on Gerry's negatives but rather were rooting for him because they were anti 6 pack.

I'm glad when he gets out - and finds out all the mean harsh horrible things that were said IN the house he may be able to see all the positive things said here about him - he's the type who'd be interested and I imagine we could get Joshua (Jason's bro) to give Gerry the heads up on that.

Willow_Woman

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 04:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, I meant graceful as in the graceful way he conducted himself even though he was ostracized; the graceful way he hasn't resorted to name calling...you get the drift.

Obviously, I would not describe some of his behaviors such as farting and spitting and not knowing how to launder clothes "graceful." However, I imagine there very, very few men in the world who have never farted nor spit.

Abby7, there have been dissertations, books, etc. written on the subject of why we pay teachers so little that point to this: For the most part, teachers have been women (50s, 60s), thus have been historically underpaid.

Why are we not treated as the professionals I think we are? Got me. I went to college for six long years, did post-graduate work, and am paid LESS than my son-in-law who is a mechanic. But it's not just about the money. There seems to be so little respect for teachers today---from the students, parents, and so on.

(I'll get off my soap box now...:))

Scifi_Writer00

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 05:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OBBC - I like Gerry.

Teacher's pay is always thought to be too low and society seems to agree, but nonetheless, movie stars, top athletes, and some models make millions. Why? Because they are worth it. Too society? I don't know, but to the company hiring them, they are worth millions. Jim Carey gets $25 million a picture, because the studio expects to generate at least $25 million more in tickets sales then they would if I (or some other loser) was starring in the same role. So why do teachers get so little, because their economic impact is hard to gauge effectively. What IS the value of knowing the periodic element chart? Until that child enters the workforce, we really don't the economic impact of his/her teachers. In fact, the role of middle school teachers is, essentially, to prepare the kids for high school. How much actual economic activity does that generate? A better pay system to reward teachers would be if every student was required to pay back a certain percentage of their income to the teachers who assisted them in acquiring the skills they use to earn a living. Then teachers would get what they deserved. Since that is unlikely to occur, society makes pay judgements that seem to have no reasoning on economic theory. By the way, I am a teacher.

<off the soapbox, too>