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Jadeygurl39

Thursday, July 04, 2002 - 10:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I didn't want to get into this but I totally agree with you Scorpio. I have worked with battered women and if she truly suffered trauma even with delayed grief/shock I would have thought she would have shown some signs. I still believe she is using this as a meal ticket or an "attempt" at one. If she truly loves her daughter, she will let go of BB2 and try and live life as "normal" as possible. I do wish her the best but she needs to get real. This is crap her taking this chance to exploit herself...JMHO.

Jade

Ocean_Islands

Friday, July 05, 2002 - 04:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It's ridiculous to think a suit has less merit because it was filed a year later instead of three months later.

I stand by my comments which I made earlier, which were in no way sexist. I am still shocked that so many women are bashing Krista over the filing of this suit. It is her life and she can do with it what she wants. On the other hand, nobody is asking you to feel sorry for her. If you don't care about her, then I would just stay out of it. As it is, many care enough to take the time to bash her, but wouldn't care the least about her as an actual person with foibles and weaknesses.

I repeat that you do not have to be scared or traumatized to be damaged. That is the nature of post-traumatic stress syndrome. Those who suffer from this are -- specifically and precisely -- NOT scared. The trauma is experienced later.

Let me add that we don't know the nature of the damages she is claiming.

C1mag

Friday, July 05, 2002 - 05:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
My question is this...Why hasn't she filed a claim against the person who heald the knife? Why hasn't she pressed charges against him? Once you realize that then you have your real answer as to why she is doing this.

As for your claims that she could have been traumatized and there would be no signs of it... Well she better come up with some signs real fast because unless she's got valid evidence to support this claim she has no case and its all hearsay. Using other valid cases of post traumatic syndrome does not always merrit the persons own claims.

What CBS has in their court, is a ton of video footage of her supporting his actions verbally denying she fealt threatned. Crying that this knife wielding monster was taken out of the house. This type of stuff is all a jury or judge would hear. After viewing those tapes shes toast in court. Even if she really was traumatized. Without any physical evidence to support her claim of emotional trauma it's all hearsay.

The nature of her claims in this case are quite clear. She claims BB and CBS collectively put her at risk by allowing Justin in the house. However, since he was never convicted for any charges he was fairly allowed in the house just like Nicole even though she had spent time in J hall. What BB did as soon as he pulled the knife on her was they uprooted him out of the house securring her safety along with the rest of the houseguests. Thus her claim of neglect has no merrit.

There is enough video evidence out there to question her sincerety. Simply because someone crys post traumatic syndrome does not always mean it exists. You'd be a sucker if you bought it every time.

If she is really a victim and her perp is still walking the streets why isn't she going after him? That alone tells me this is all about money and has nothing to do with feeling like a victim.

Scorpiomoon

Friday, July 05, 2002 - 07:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag: "My question is this...Why hasn't she filed a claim against the person who heald the knife? Why hasn't she pressed charges against him? Once you realize that then you have your real answer as to why she is doing this."

EXACTLY!!!!

Trinity

Friday, July 05, 2002 - 08:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag: Have to agree with you there. If she was truly damaged then she should have had Justin arrested. BTW, what he ever arrested for attempted assault?

Ocean: Yes you're correct that sometimes trauma can be felt some time later. The problem is people have less sympathy for a person who goes on a TV show to win money, to be filmed 24/7. Most folks would think this is a person who wants attention and fame.

As for the women comment. I don't subscribe to the theory that all women are good and all men are bad and if a man looks at you cross-eyed or says an unkind word, that means you've been abused. I think Justin should have been arrested and charges should have been pressed when the incident happened.

Think about Real World 3. Did those roommates sue MTV over Puck? Don't think so.

Oemperor

Friday, July 05, 2002 - 08:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
After the case is thrown out of court (due primarily to a ton of evidence showing that this DIDN'T bother Krista for the last year), Krista will end up suing the lawyer...

Realtvfan

Friday, July 05, 2002 - 08:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Start with a disclaimer. I'm a guy.

I agree many others here.. She is toast in court.

We also saw Krista handle the situation 2 months later when Julie Chen asked Krista if Krista knew the situation as to why Justin was removed from the game.

We saw that reportedly CBS dumped Elizabeth SII from one of beauty pagent shows as a judge to insert Krista. This about a week or two after Krista was evicted from the house. That had to be a nice perk for Krista as well. CBS was very nice to Krista.

It certainly appears that Krista was just hoping for a quiet pay day, but CBS has the tapes.

Sunshinemiss

Friday, July 05, 2002 - 10:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
She is not the sharpest tool in the drawer (pun intended)... I think she is either under poor advice from a lawyer with questionable scruples, or it truly is a publicity ploy by Arnie. Poor taste either way.

It's great to see the debates up and running. We are thirsting for some REAL action!

Nimue

Friday, July 05, 2002 - 05:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag: "My question is this...Why hasn't she filed a claim against the person who heald the knife?"

because Justin is broke....

Azriel

Friday, July 05, 2002 - 05:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've seen people say that CBS should have had Justin arrested. Justin wasn't arrested because no crime was committed. At the time of the incident, Krista claimed that nothing happened and Justin and her were just fooling around. She never felt threatened or in any danger, therefore Justin did nothing illegal and he couldn't be arrested.

Cathie

Friday, July 05, 2002 - 06:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
IMHO Krista is suffering from Post Celebrity Stress Syndrome...

Jadeygurl39

Friday, July 05, 2002 - 10:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ocean,

Wow I believe you have your opinion but it sures seems everyone has theirs as well. From your strong opinions, I am gathering you either work with PTS or you have been through this yourself.

Grrrrrr, I get frustrated when I see your postings and you are bashing everyone on here as bad as you think everyone is bashing Krista. Filing a highly publicized law suit merits attention and I am confident she knows everyone is chomping on this one. JMHO...and I have my right to my opinion and you have yours...

Jade

P.S. too funny Cathie ......PCSS LOL...

Scorpiomoon

Friday, July 05, 2002 - 10:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nimue: You cracked me up! That was too funny. :)

Jbean

Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 09:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
GIVE ME A BREAK! Krista is a bit much for me to handle. i used to be a krista fan, but now, not so much. hell, she didn't even KNOW that it had happened when julie asked her about it after her eviction. and now the stress that has come from the publicity of the "incident" has caused her so much trauma and it is CBS's fault. Whateva! i agree with the post-celebrity stress. i think she just wants some more media attention. JMHO

Car54

Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 09:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
During BB2, didn't Krista say that CBS had optioned her life story...something about her father's death and the whole family story?

Guess that movie of the week won't get made now.

Squaredsc

Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 04:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i think that krista is still pi**ed that she didn't get to go on amazing race. love the post celebrity stress syndrome. maybe she should get a..........Turtle Tatoo?? 1

Zachsmom

Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 05:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If they did a more thorough backrounds last time, I don't believe Krista would have been able to enter. Wasn't she also arrested for domestic violence? I seem to recall her talking about that.

Dedonjo

Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 07:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow, I hesitate to get in on this one, but I will anyway...It's just that this is a serious topic, and kind of hard to keep light on a board I think most want to be "fun", maybe? Anyhow, I'm jumping in and here goes -

Ocean, I believe I agree with you. Doesn't matter who Krista is or what she's done, there's absolutely no excuse for violence and abuse, which is what I saw (and heard) happening when Justin held that knife to her throat. No joke, no excuses, not funny, irregardless of how he verbally presented, whether alcohol was involved, or how Krista reacted. And, as an aside, not entertaining in any way.

It is my personal opinion, based only on what I saw, that Krista was a victim of violence, whether she realized it at the time or not. Sounds like she's grown up with abuse, which could also make it harder for her to recognize something out of line when it happens - might have seemed "normal" to her, based on her experience.

Anyhow, I say, more power to her. If she and her lawyer think it's worth filing suit, she has that right. If she wants publicity and gets it, more power to her. That's a perk (and well deserved, for allowing themselves to become the subjects of our entertainment) of being in these games.

I wish more women had the guts to make lots of noise when they've had violent acts committed against them. In private or on national television.

I suspect there's plenty more information out there about this that we don't know. If the legal system works like it is supposed to, she'll have her day in court and the court will make a just decision based on all the facts as to whether damages are due or not. Go, Krista.

Faerygdds

Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 07:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ded.. I think the point many are making isn't that Krista SHOULDN'T sue... but that she is only suing CBS for the money. Let's face it... CBS has little to do with it. Arnold Shapiro Productions let Justin in the house, but JUSTIN was the one who put the knife to her throat. JUSTIN was the oe who victimized her, not CBS. CBS just aired the footage, they are not to blame for 1) what justin does or 2) what Arnold Shapiro chose to edit or 3) Who Arnold Shapiro Productions casted.

Does anyone know if she has even pressed charges against Justin??? Now if she wanted to press charges against Justin and Shapiro told her not to... she MAY have a case to sue Shapiro Productions, but to just sue CBS because frankly.. they have more money than Justin and Shapiro is going after the wrong person, and therefore the case will probably be thrown out.

Also, the timing of the suit seems fishy to me... seems like she is hoping the neg publicity will just make CBS settle out of court because they dont' want the publicity (and that's the way the lawyer will look at it). I don't question her RIGHT to sue -- just the validity of the direction of her suit (at CBS) and her motivation.

Llkoolaid

Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 08:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wasn't going to post here but I can't help it.

It's not that I don't think what Jason did was wrong, I do, but I believe that Krista was a willing participant.
What bugs me about this whole thing is that I think Krista sees dollars signs and it is people like her that make it so hard for legitimate abuse victims to get justice.

Theowl

Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 08:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is there a "LawyerMan" in the house???

Seamonkey

Monday, July 08, 2002 - 10:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I question her motives. I suspect the timing MAY have to do with some timeframe set up by CBS or Shapiro, but I don't know.

I question why she isn't suing Justin.

But, I also questioned and still do, the ethics of Shapiro/CBS for how they used the situation for ratings. Yes, I know it hit the press after people saw what happened online, but at minimum, they had Julie bring it up to Krista and i think they showed clips? In some ways they did use the situation.

She came into BB already suffering from effects of prior events.. brother killing father, abusive relationships, addictions, young motherhood, etc., so whatever effects the BB experience had on her, it will be hard to determine how much they had to do with the BB experience and how much they had to do with her prior life.

Personally, I think the last three had more right to accuse CBS/Shapiro with mishandling after 9/11.

Seems to me that lawsuits so rarely actually "fix" anything. Will anyone actually be safer, or more responsible, or happier, no matter what the outcome?

Treasure

Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 07:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ditto on the "nobody's questioning Krusta's rights to sue" whomever she pleases. This is America - you know: the nation the rest of the world thinks is a bunch of "litigation-happy Bible thumping heathens". Didn't say it made any sense, that's just the way they seem to call it.

But to sue CBS just because they have more money than Justin is that crime of crimes: Obvious.

Rather, Krista should sue:
- her family for 30 years of mental anguish.

- Boogie for a false marriage proposal seen by millions.

- Justin for encouraging her to get drunk as a skunk, AND being dumb enough to think that it's okay to hold a knife to a woman's throat as some twisted form of, ahem, foreplay.

Reflect on: If Krista and Mike had married and CBS had given them a prime time variety show ala Sonny & Cher, do you honestly think she'd be suing them instead of Justin?

Only a judge or jury will get to decide if her particular case has merit. Meanwhile, we have the 1st amendment right to point and giggle all we please. ;o) (On with the show, this is it! Exit stage left)

Angelsluv

Wednesday, July 10, 2002 - 01:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
^5's to Seamonkey as to Nicole, Will and especially Monica have more right to sue from the mishandling..

From listening to the audio bits on one site and then viewing the "missing" episode on cbs.com (wasn't home for 9/11 to watch the feeds- was in Disney World of all places), it sounded like they were told about the attack but weren't even allowed to see any of it on TV, get full details, or frequent updates. That [alone] would have caused some mental/emotional damage..

I just think the whole thing is seriously stupid...

Krista got herself that gig on Miss America (or whatever the beauty pagent was last year) and after her hopes and dreams of becomming a star in Hollywood didn't pan out, landing her back in LA. she decided to get $$ by doing this..

As far as a lawsuit against Justin, at least she should have added his name to this lawsuit..

Funny that in the article that they forgot to mention Justin being arrested for beating up another girlfriend on January 7th..

http://www.realitynewsonline.com/article1537.html

This suit probably won't even make it to court but if it did, it be due to an inept judge, or one who prays to be on CourtTV.

Can all of you see if it did??? The cast of BB2 would all be sitting in court testifying..

Eddiesleg

Wednesday, July 10, 2002 - 09:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Krista, please add me as a plantiff in your lawsuit. I too would like to sue Arnie and CBS for not providing viewers like myself with proper psychological counseling to help deal with the likes of you.