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Meggieprice

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 01:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason is seeing each person individually in HOH.I have to wonder- first Amy told him to nominate Gerry for the good of the house...now he told Lisa he feels like the scumbag for betraying Roddy and Eric...I have to wonder what the day holds as he speaks to each in turn. Is he strong? Does he know already whay he will do?

Minkster1973

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 01:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jaosn should feel bad....not like a scumbag.....for what he did to Eric and Roddy. He made an alliance with them, and then betrayed them for an alliance with Danielle. If it were any other person in the house, everyone would be ragging on Jason....but because he's come out as the innocent, house virgin, everyone says he's just playing the game.

If Roddy or Danielle did the same thing......and in my opinion Danielle has.....this board would be all fired up about it. Jason is obviously different story though.

Maris

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 01:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Meggie He told Dani he is definitely nominating Roddy. I also gather he is going to nominate Amy. If I was a betting person its Roddy and Amy.

Cameltoes

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 01:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think he's just trying to figure out who wouldn't vote Roddy out. He basically told Amy that he might have to nominate her. Lisa is making it clear she has a problem with Roddy still.

Meggieprice

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 01:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have yet to see proof of a Jason alliance with E/R. I think they assumed it, I know they pressured him, and I heard him say he would "stay with the plan" but he did not say what plan. I think Jason feels bad about what was thought. But I do not think he ever gave his word.

Mar-Thanks for reassuring me! My RP was messing up when he spoke with Dani...

Crazydog

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 01:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Minkster, I agree. To be technical, I believe he had his alliance with Dani first. But whether this was his secondary alliance or not, Jason did ally with them, and then went back on his word. I think this was backstabbing and I agree that no one's giving him any flack for it because they all like him so much.

Bbrules4ever

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 01:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
jason is qutie the politician. he said this way when he does noms today he will say "well guys ...I've nominated you and you because this is what the house has decided."


the only thing i don't like about this is , yet again, jason seems unable to make his own decision. jason,please, BE A MAN!!!

Minkster1973

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 01:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Now...in the beginning Jason told Roddy that he would never vote to evict him. So in nominating Roddy, that is not against his own word.

What that means is, if Jason is the person all of his followers claim he is....if Danielle/Marcellus vote to evict Roddy and Lisa/Gerry vote to evict Amy, then the tie-breaker would be Amy leaving because Jason keeps his word.....or so everyone says he is that kind of guy.

Then you have Marcellus going against his deal with Roddy too. CBS made sure we people that do not subscribe to the live feeds saw that Marcellus made a deal to go to the end with Roddy.

It comes down to no one can be trusted.

Maris

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 01:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Now Dani has come into the room like the queen bee to be in the discussions. Dani cant evel let him alone to have his meetings with people. This is Dani's HOH and Jason will do what she wants.

Crazydog

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 01:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Meggie, he had a conversation with Roddy when Roddy was HoH. Roddy offered him a place in the alliance and Jason said, yeah, I'd really like to be a part of that. He was in as far as Roddy was concerned.

Meggieprice

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 01:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason never said that he would NEVER vote to evict him. They had a 3 week bind.

Minkster1973

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 01:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It honestly doesn't matter which alliance came first.....all I'm saying is that Jason going against his word and the alliances that he has made should have made these people crazy.

But it won't happen.

Maris

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 01:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason did join an alliance with Roddy. Now Dani is telling Jason what to do and that he shouldnt worry about Lisa. She will deliver Lisas vote. She told Jason to talk to Gerry about the POV. Now he is talking ot Marcellas but Dani has warned him about Marcellas.

Meggieprice

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 01:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The only true alliance I have seen Jason have is Danielle. What I am wondering about right now is Lisa...

Cameltoes

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 01:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
To be fair Maris, Jason did tell Danielle that he wanted to nominate who she felt was a threat to her. So he invited her input.

Maris

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 01:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
yes Camel but he also told her he wanted to talk to people individually. He only got as far as the second person when she came in and said she had to speak with him before he speaks with anyone else, sat herself down and joined in his conversation with Lisa. Dani is a control freak and is running this show. She will not let him work this one.

Theo17

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 01:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
if jay doesnt get rid of roddy after his speech on yesterdays show he is such a fool. I want jason to win. He shouldnt care what others tell him. He should ask himself which of these people would nominate me if they were hoh. roddy is a given. It would have been jay and danni.

Jaysgal

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 01:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You are right, Crazy Dog. Jason did explicitly commit himself to a boys' alliance with Roddy. However, I think the deal was made during Marcellas' reign as HOH. It was then that Roddy advised Jason to vote to evict Tonya.

During that period, Danielle lied to Jason. She said that he should vote to evict Tonya and her vote would cancel his. It seems to me that people forget things so early. People forget that Danielle has even lied to Jason.

I like what Jason is doing, asking everyone in the house for their advice. It would seem to me like wisdom if he were like Solomon knowing who wasn't being sincere. However, I'm afraid that Jason's intent here is very far from wise. I wish that it would be though. It would be nice to see Jason put up Danielle to every one's amazement! :D But it seems to me that Jason is not one of surprises.

Earthmother

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 01:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason has never given Dani one reason not to trust him so why is she barging in on his convo with Lisa?

Theo17

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 01:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You know jay just said he will hide in hoh for the week because of roddy. Roddy intidates them all to a certain level. Not physically but mentally like he will make them look really bad. They should have dumped roddy and kept josh. marcy ruined that....and josh himself blew it

Wendo

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 01:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He talked to Dani, he knows he has to put up Roddy. He's trying, I think, to decide who to put in the number two spot.

Personally, I think it should be Gerry. That way, Amy and Mar know if either of them use the veto, the other is likely to go up. Amy may still do use veto, but then it may be at Marcellas's expense. That could hurt Marcellas.

Meggieprice

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 02:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
BTW, I am not trying to be difficult about the J/R alliance, but I truly have not seen anything on LF or anywhere else to support a firm agreement. Yes, he said "I would like to be part of that" but nothing else was specified. They did talk about 2-3 weeks guarantee and that time is over. Jason once said he would "follow the plan" but he never said what plan! Can someone give me more specifics about when this alliance happened?

(No, Im not being like Keiffer always challenging people to prove Roddy lied! lol. I really want to know)

Minkster1973

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 02:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You guys, he's avoiding Roddy because he knows that he is going against what he has told Roddy. He doesn't want to face the fact that he is just as deceptive as everyone else playing this game.

Starr_Wv

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 02:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Jason will be making a big mistake if he puts Gerry up against Roddy I think that Gerry will be voted out or even worse amy or Marc will win POV an take roddy off the block..then who would he put up??? if he really wants Roddy gone he would be better off to make a deal with Gerry to not use POV if he wins it and put Marc or Amy up against Roddy or else Roddy gets another week an most likely win the game.JMHO

Goddessatlaw

Friday, August 23, 2002 - 02:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think I said this last night, but putting Gerry up would be a mistake for Jason. Amy and Marc will vote out Gerry; Lisa and Dani will go after Roddy, leaving Jason with the deciding vote. If Jason has to cast against Roddy, he will have a serious block of enemies within the ousted voters (outside of the fact that I don't think Jason wants to be in a position to cast a deciding vote at all). If Dani advises Jason to put up Gerry, and knows that Jason will feel compelled to vote out Roddy, we'll know once and for all whether Dani has Jason's interests at heart, because she will have set him up to take the core four (or six-pack, whatever) heat off of her if she and Jason get to the finals together.