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Theo17

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i still say if roddy ha 30 minutes with hason then roddy escapes so you have to veto gerry. that gives you 3 frim votes w/o jason and maybe 4 with marcy. That way jason can say he never voted against king roddy. you have to get amy up there with roddy. then again i have said that from the beginning. lol

Wcv63

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo, Mar and Amy have both been on a "don't trust Dani, she's a snake" tangent ever since the eviction. Amy even "shared" this information with Roddy while telling the story of "making" Dani change her vote.

Goddessatlaw

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo - I think anyone who fully realizes that he's likely sealed his fate and that of his FULLY TRUSTED and PROVEN allies who actually WANT TO WIN by failing to nominate Roddy because "I don't care he's my friend" needs to be somewhere else besides in a reality gameshow. I'm hoping that if Dani can keep Jason away from Roddy enough the next couple of days Jason can shake off the mind-meld and come to his senses. There is no scenario under which Roddy is going to willingly take Jason to the finals.

Theo17

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i say get roddy this week, then amy next week then we can all enjoy the last 4 weeks because at least the devil didnt win

Maris

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
But Mar just told Dani tonight that if Roddy puts her and Amy up next week that he will vote Amy out because Amy is not playing the game. he said Amy may be his girl but she isnt playing the game.

Theo17

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
somebody needs to just say jason he is playing you like a violin. did you come here to win or not. there are only 4 more evictions. its probably now or never. please help us all and help yourself. this isnt a best friend dating show. Please let us all have a chance and let yourself have a chance. come down on him hard. wake him up. he forgot it is a game. Ask him what his brother on the internet would be saying to do

Maris

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What was it Amy said on tonight's DR? This isnt the love connection folks, its a game.

Wendo

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wcv63, so it's likely that Amy won't hold her end of the bargain. Doesn't surprise me. Just didn't know for sure.

I do agree, it would be best for Jason to take Gerry off with a a firm deal that he will vote Roddy and not nom him the next time he gets HOH in retaliation.

This, ultimately, seems the best way to go.

Honestly, I just don't think Jason's going to change the nominations. After seeing tonight's show, he's too worried that he's going to lose Roddy as a "friend" if he noms him. Which really stinks, imo. Because Jason was initially on to this tactic by Roddy (as we know from their convo), but he fell into it anyway.

I wonder about Jason. He really seemed to be able to play this game, no matter what. But, lately, he just doesn't seem to be the same as he was several weeks ago. I dunno.

Bmh

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy wont let Jason veto Amy and nominate him..he will manipulate Jason till his head is spinning..if Roddy realizes he is in danger..I think it is basically a done deal Gerry is gone..Dani and Marcie are already talking about next week if Roddy nominates dani and amy...they are all assuming Gerry is gone..and I think he is...

Maris

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The thing is that Gerry has to talk to Jason and then Danni has to get to Jason to tell him its a better idea and that it is a brilliant plan. She tells Jason what Gerry told her about Roddy's interivews for the game. Then she sticks to Jason like glue until the POV meeting on Monday. She needs to enlist Marcelas and Lisas help for this. They wont leave Jason alone for a second. They cannot let Roddy have any idea what is going on.

Theo17

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
bmh you are right thats why they have to get their card all in order make a plan and wait till 3 hours before pov. that way roddy never finds out. After they hammer jason dont let roddy alone with him for 3 hours. danny stays with jason and lisa stays with roddy

Wcv63

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris I don't know if it's smart to include Marc. He is the one that blew the last opportunity by telling Amy before the votes instead of after as had been discussed. Better leave Marc in the dark too.

Theo17

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
wcv for once we agree. why the heck did she risk it telling marc. he tells amy. amy runs to roddy on please roddy save yourself

Maris

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa is good Wc. Basically nobody can leave jason alone for the veto to take place. If Roddy gets wind of it then it is all over.

Bigger

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 08:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What do you think about this idea???

Jason nominated Gerry and Amy, but not Roddy, because he thinks that whoever wins POV will take one of them off the block. Then he will have to nominate Roddy and loses no votes from Roddy or his former alliance members!

POV maybe...
Dani will save Amy
Gerry will save Amy
Marcellas will save Amy
Lisa will probably not save anyone unless Dani tells her to.
And if Roddy wins, maybe he saves Jerry? I doubt it, but it's a theory.

There's always a 50/50 that there will be a Veto.

I got no reaction to this post in nobody understands Jason. What do you think?

Meggieprice

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 08:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh man, you guys are all sucking me into being hopeful again! I've been down this road before. WE know they can't let on to Roddy- but they always blow it. Why would this be different?

Wendo

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 08:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Goddessatlaw, thanks for your comments. And, it's exactly how I feel. It's funny, isn't it, about Roddy. How he's gotten Jason to do this for "friendship" when in reality, he's known this guy for 6 to 7 weeks max. I would never go on BB (don't have the looks for it either.) But, if I did, I would never forget, these people aren't my friends, they're my opponents.

Wendo

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 08:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, what's this about Roddy's interviews? I'm in the dark, clue me in??? :)

Sassylady

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 08:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just saw on the LFPs that Dani finally did what I wanted her to do--to feel Gerry out. I have stated for the last two weeks that Dani's biggest mistake was not trusting Gerry. Gerry wants Roddy out as much as Dani does...
Is there any sign that Dani is going to do something with this information--knowing Gerry wants Roddy gone!? I bet she felt bad when he told her she has his vote in the final two. It is about time that Dani looks beyond Marcellas. Gerry is much more her allie than Marcellas.

Meggieprice

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 08:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bigger -Jason already won POV.

Wendo

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 08:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris said, "<snip> She needs to enlist Marcelas and Lisas help for this. They wont leave Jason alone for a second. They cannot let Roddy have any idea what is going on."

I agree with everything, except having Mar help. I would not clue him in at all. Marcellas has very loose lips when it comes to Amy. He'll eventually tell her, then she'll tell Roddy. Dani needs to trust her gut and say nothing to Mar should she and Jason go through with this.

Bigger

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 08:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
WOW. Sorry I didn't catch that b-4. Never Mind.

Maris

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 08:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gerry told Danni that he remembered everything Roddy ever said. In particular he remembered two things. One was from his interview where he told big brother that when he came into the house it would be like Crocodile Dundee in Survivor and about how he would win the game. he also told Danni about Roddy approaching him at the beginning of BB and telling him that he had a strategy where they would not nominate each other even though he was a threat. Basically Gerry was revealing to Danni the strategies he had discussed with Roddy and what a threat Roddy is.

Meggieprice

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 08:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo-it isn't just loose lips of Marc that are a problem .Having watched the LF all night Tuesday night I can tell you right now Marc is NOT with Danielle any more. After Amy got back from her emergency DR at about 4:30am she flounced on the bed and said "I don't give a damn what you all do" She was finally prepared to accept the will of the house to get rid of Roddy- she was very upset but she was accepting it. All of a sudden Marc realised verbally that if Roddy left there would be noone to get rid of Dani- he said it, and just like that he told Amy she had to stop Dani before the vote- this was after hours of explaining to her why Roddy had to go. It was Marc that got Amy to change thingsl. I was there every painful hour of the way.

Goddessatlaw

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 08:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo - I know plenty of lawyers just like him. I just cringe at the fact that no one in the house sees fit to call him on his horsecrap, much less make him pay the price. Removing him should be among the highest priorities to someone who entered the game with the intent to win. Unfortunately, although Jason is more than entitled to blow the game for himself, he has also thrown down Dani and Lisa at the alter of his "friendship" with Roddy. For not taking Roddy out in the past two weeks, my sympathy is limited with Dani and Lisa. However, it doesn't negate Jason's awareness that he just sold everyone else but Roddy up the river. I don't find his failure to feel responsibility to his two allies attractive. But I'm sure that's the least of his worries, LOL.