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Theo17 | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 06:28 pm     wrat why would that make him a puppet? thats the best strategy. Why would he nominate fanni or liza when they are on his side? Jason said it hinself if roddy stays 2 more weeks the game is over. Give the man some credit. He isnt as gullable as people think. if he nominated gerry instead then they could use the veto on roddy. You never ever know what amy or marcy will do to save roddy. They both are puddy in his hand. |
Wrat1010 | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 06:30 pm     Kudos to Dani for voting her fake heart. She totally played Jason and especially Lisa. Lisa now does not have Chiara's vote in the final; basically because she did what Danielle told her to do without even a reason given; and that reason was to honor a promise which Danielle gave Amy and which Lisa had a right to know about beforehand. Especially since Danielle lied about not making any such promise to Amy during the HRD conversation with Marcellas and Lisa. Especially since Danielle had even told Lisa a couple of days ago to give Chiara her word that she would vote out Roddy, and so Danielle is directly responsible for all the guilt which Lisa is now feeling. Kudos to Danielle for brilliant but heartless and manipulative gameplay. |
Angelchica04 | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 06:32 pm     i don't think that jason is dani's puppet. he just wants to give every1 in the house the appearance that he is. u guys r all saying he'll put roddy up. i would luv it but i have this gut feeling that he won't for some reason. altho he did say that he needs to go..... |
Theo17 | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 06:32 pm     amy is really pissed that jason won hoh. she might lose her boy roddy in a week. I really lost respect for amy this week. Her goodbye to kiki was eactly as hypocritical as kiki would have been |
Lombadier | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 06:32 pm     Jason wins HOH: whoop-dee-doo. He'll do whatever Danielle tells him to do. Jason has been one of my favorites, but I don't like lap dogs. |
Wendo | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 06:35 pm     Jason is not a puppet. Please give the man some credit. He's an avid BB fan, he knows how to play this game. The alliance with Dani is equal, and it always has been. First and foremost, it's always been about them. If what Jason said in his DR tonight holds true, then he will likely put up Roddy. The other canidates would likely be Amy, Marcellas, or Gerry. There are so many scenarios, that it's difficult. I can see Amy or Marcellas using PoV on Roddy to save him (even if one is on the block with him). I really could. But, if Ja puts up Gerry with Roddy, then maybe they wouldn't because they would think Gerry would go. Dani and Lisa vote Roddy, Amy and Mar vote Gerry, and Jason has to vote the tie. Again, based on his DR entry, I do think he would break the tie to vote out Roddy. It's so hard to figure out the best scenario because PoV can throw it all out of whack. |
Kitty54 | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 06:40 pm     Actually, when you think about it, Jason has played the best. I don't think he's anyone's puppet. He's been low key and not made enemys. Now, he'll be in a position that he must nominate and those 2 may not like him, anymore. But, as for Dani telling him what to do, they have an alliance and naturally she will influence him. |
Wendo | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 06:41 pm     Wrat1010 said, "Kudos to Dani for voting her fake heart. <snip> Especially since Danielle had even told Lisa a couple of days ago to give Chiara her word that she would vote out Roddy, and so Danielle is directly responsible for all the guilt which Lisa is now feeling. Kudos to Danielle for brilliant but heartless and manipulative gameplay." Firstly, I think Chiara realizes that Lisa was hurt that Chi voted to evict her. She said so in her goodbye message. If Lisa made it to the end, I don't see Chi not giving her her jury vote for this reason. Why? Despite what people feel about Chiara, I just don't think she's the type of person to hold a grudge. If anything, were Dani and Lisa were the final two, I think Chi would give her vote to Lisa because of how Dani told Lisa about Chi voting to evict her. Lastly, I don't recall Lisa giving her word to Chi that she would give her a vote, nor Dani telling her to do this. When did this happen? |
Theo17 | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 06:43 pm     wendo i agree 100% jason is no puppet. He has gone this long w/o being nominated or winning hoh because he has been very smart. |
Shrike3000 | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 06:44 pm     Wydy, I think Jason and Dani both know where each other stands. Dani knows he is the best person to help her get to the end, Jason, know he needs her to help get him to the end. Jason thinks he can beat Dani in the end. Dani hopes she can beat Jason in the end, or at least she knows a good person will win. Or she is saving up Gerry to be in the final 3, then turn on Jason. |
Uhoh | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 06:45 pm     i haven't seen the show yet (west coast), but am puzzled as to why dani voted to evict roddy. seems to me what she accomplished was in the end breaking the promise to amy (who is still in the house) and not getting roddy out since she told the other two to change their vote. was it that she didn't want it to be unanimous? keeping her word to chiara isn't a good reason, because she failed to keep her word to amy. broke her word AND didn't get the person she wants out of the house? somebody please help make sense of this - i can't. |
Cc1976 | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 06:46 pm     "Jason wins HOH: whoop-dee-doo. He'll do whatever Danielle tells him to do. Jason has been one of my favorites, but I don't like lap dogs" I totally agree! Wendo, you're entitled to your opinion and I know Jason fans don't see him as Danielle's puppet, but how can you not think what they showed on tonight's episode was not someone who is a lap dog? He's called into the DR, so he goes running to find Danielle to make sure he knows what Danielle wants him to do. It was pathetic, imo. I listened to the Jason fans on this board before the show insist that he's not her puppet, but what I saw on tonight's show proved it for me, he's a lap dog, he does as Danielle instructs. |
Booomhowser | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 06:49 pm     Thanks for the veto info peeps. OK, Jason is NOT a puppet, he does listen to Danielle, but I really thibk Jason is playing a great game. As you can probably tell, I am all for the D/J/L alliance. This is what I would like to happen. Jason puts up Rod and Gerry, anyone winning veto does not use it. RODDY is gone (Amy being the vote to ride Rod, as per discussion with Dani Leaving D/J/L, M/A and G (this helps the D/J/L alliance to be last 3. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS crosses fingers and toes and ... LMAO |
Aloha1961 | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 06:50 pm     I can see jason putting up Roddy and Amy with Roddy going... I don't think marcellus will get pov because he will prabably throw it.. but if amy gets pov she will veto roddy.. she's already told him she will do anything so he doesn't get voted out she said if him and her were up she would campaign against herself to save roddy.. but i don't see roddy useing pov to save amy so he will throw it also.. |
Wendo | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 06:50 pm     Cc1976, they're working as a team and wanted to see where they should be. Just because he went to her to see what's up does not mean the guy is a puppet. Did you see last night's show when the two were talking in the dark? He was making the decisions, he was telling Dani what to do, and he makes up his own mind. We'll just have to agree to disagree. No biggie. |
C1mag | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 06:51 pm     Wendo you are forgetting that all you have to do with the person who has pov tell them that if they veto Roddy that their buddy goes up and their buddy goes. Tell their buddy that as well so that they know the score. For example if Amy vetos Roddy then Marc goes up and he is gone. Same for Marcellus. if he vetos Roddy then Amy goes up and she goes. Be sure and tell her that is what would happen if Marcellus uses veto. Make it clear like she did... roddy is the one going this week! You can strong arm this whole thing all the way too Thursday. Amy and Marcellus said that if they want Roddy out they should get hoh and do it. They will comply. They have no choice. If one or the other vetos out each other then you tell them Gerry would go up but Roddy is still going. So leave it be. They have a free week. Tell them to relax and enjoy the time cause the target isn't on them and tell them that Gerry would be next to go if he doesn't get the next hoh. DAMN look at me I'm ready to play that Motha out of that house this week Wendo I think we got our man goin this next week !!! |
Wendo | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 06:54 pm     Aloha1961, a Roddy and Gerry nomination would certainly be interesting. Mar and Amy would maybe not use PoV knowing that whoever would use it, the other would get put up. Yes, Jason would then alienate Gerry, but Gerry likely knows that Roddy is the target; it would be his THIRD time up there. But, on the other hand, Amy and Marcellas are just SO unpredictable. Even knowing that one could go on the block, they may still want to save Roddy. I see it more from Amy than Marcellas. But, really, who knows. This is really a TOUGH nomination. |
Rig | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 06:54 pm     Well, at least Jason has made it to the best bed in the house. Wasn't he sleeping on a table or something the first night? |
Skeldragon | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 06:55 pm     C1, if you were HOH I'd be sure it would play out the way you think it will. But does Jason have it in him to do the strongarm thing? I know he wants Roddy out, but I don't seem him pulling the "I'm HOH so do as I say" routine we've seen the last couple votes... Do you look anything like Jason? Think you could sneak in and take his place without anyone noticing? |
Jaysgal | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 06:56 pm     Didn't Jason make a comment about people not being what he thought they were, in his exchange with Chiara? Well, Jason may really not be so tied to Danielle. I am hoping he is not. I am hoping that his vote to evict Chiara was really to fulfill Chiara's wish and Amy's wish. If it was that, then I have confidence in him. And in that case, I cannot see him put up Amy, but I can see him put up Danielle. I think that his eyes will really open. However, from all appearance, Jason is still Danielle's subject. I should say that I have noticed a pattern that when a house guest states his or her determination to win the HOH title that day, they usually do. I almost typed up earlier a bet that Jason would win it once he expressed his eagerness to win it this time and went outside to practice. Remember Roddy had done something similar. He said he really wanted to win HOH and he went asking questions to know about house guests. Surely enough, he won the HOH that day. Same story with Chiara. |
Wendo | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 06:57 pm     C1mag, I do see your point. The problem is Amy. She's just so unpredictable and seems to be such a Roddy desciple. In addition, I just don't see Jason playing strong arm tactics. He's just not that way. But, a Roddy vs. Gerry nom would be one I would be considering. It's just that Mar and Amy are such emotional players. You just don't know. |
Wendo | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:02 pm     Jaysgal, I realize that people see Jason as "Dani's subject", but I think it's really not fair. He's been playing a really good game so far. Making moves he needs to, other moves he feels would be detrimental. By saying this guy is a puppet or subject is really quite insulting to him when he hasn't shown any actions to the contrary. Amy and Marcellas, on the other hand, have exhibited many such times of being under Roddy's hand. Especially Amy. But, we all have are own opinions, that's what's great about this board. |
C1mag | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:07 pm     LMAO Skel.. Actually I don't think Jason is gonna have to do the strong arm thing. He's got Dani to fly around making sure she gets what she wants. He will be the brains and figure out that they need to cover POV but Dani will be the voice. She will explain it all to Amy and Marcellus and Gerry and make it clear who the target is. If they touch veto then they potentially send the other one home and create and even bigger problem for themselves the following week. Amy is flighty but if she even dared to veto out Roddy with Marcellus on the block knowing that Marcellus would then go she will have hell too pay big time and she wouldn't even want that. Marcellus wouldn't veto Amy if she was up against Roddy cause if he does that knowing that Roddy is going anyway then he has a HUGE target on his back come the following week. Trust me, Jason will get the man out but Dani will be the strong arm. This is how Jason will play it. Me on the other hand... I would do my own work |
C1mag | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:16 pm     Plus I don't think we are giving Jason enough credit here and are making him out to be overly passive. I've heard some of his comments every once in a while and he has said to them that he does have a temper but tries to control it. Like I've mentioned... He really was pissed that Roddy called him a liar. He mentioned even calling him on it once he knew the man was going. The boy may have a direct line to God but I don't think he is a pushover. God gives us a voice for a reason. It's about how you use it and as an adult you do have the right to use that voice at the right time. He's playing a game and if he wants them to play it his way then he has the right to articulate it the same way spoiled Amy did this last week. The difference will be in the way he presents his plan. I get Amy as well. To be honest, as long as she is not the target she is gonna shut her mouth and play the game. When she is told that she cannot veto out Roddy for fear of losing Marcellus she will back off. It would be insulting of her to veto Roddy off if Marcellus is already nominated so that scenario won't work either. I'm telling you that those two ( amy and Marcellus) are gonna play low key this week to ensure they are safe. Their thought will be.. Forget about Roddy he's gone, lets move on. I do think it might be best for Jason to Nominate Gerry along with Roddy so that Amy and Marc won't target Jason, or Dani next week if they get hoh. Sort of a scratch my back I scratch yours type of thing. In a way I think thats why Dani continues to play Marcellus. When she wants Marc gone she will do it suddenly. |
C1mag | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:20 pm     YIKES! Marcellus is gonna have to avoid winning POV as well cause Roddy expects Marcellus to save him cause he told Roddy in the ht that he was up for an alliance for final 2. Oh this is gonna be sooooo easy to play Amy and Marcellus this week. They both know that if they dare to save Roddy then the other pal would be gone. If they are up on the block with Roddy and use it to get him off then they are going home as well... Prediction: even without a strong arm Amy and Marc will NOT dare to veto Roddy. |
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