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Archive through August 26, 2002
Pcakes2 | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:32 pm     Uhoh, you took the words right out of my mouth. I, too, live in the Bay Area and was lucky enough to buy my home 11 years ago. All my friends hate/envy me because my mortage payment is $700 a month. Even the cost of homes in Fairfield/Vallejo has risen significantly. A coworker of mine bought a run down 2 bedroom condo with neighbors on both sides there last year, and he paid $150,000. If you don't live in the Bay Area, you have no idea what thi smarket is like. In the county I work, the average home price is $600,000...that's the AVERAGE, no frills home. |
Sheila494 | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:32 pm     i have been one who has constantly bashed danielle about the way that she has played the game..but when i think about it i do understand what she is doing and why she has to do it for her family..i feel the same way about my family..i understand how tough it can be to make it in this world..and i live in kentucky where the cost of living is much lower..i understand she has to do what has to be done to win that money..afterall this is a game and when its over she has a life outside and a family to provide for. |
Jan | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:33 pm     yes gidget ..I forget where I read the following quote but it's always stuck with me "happiness is not getting what you want. It's wanting what you get!" |
Dntx4bb3 | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:38 pm     Gidget, AMEN!!!! I am a widow with three daughters, I don't own a new car, but mine gets us from place to place. I don't own a home we live in an apartment.My kids go to public schools. What I was trying to say is, we are happy, my children know I love them, they know they will never go hungery and always have a place that is safe to live. To me that is more important |
Hypermom | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:39 pm     Web, the loan she took out was for what her stipend will be. Earth and Wcv, AMEN! |
Battlestar | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:41 pm     Hyper---how did she have time to arrange it?? |
Auntie | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:42 pm     I see absolutely nothing wrong with Dani saying she wants to win for her family. Even her stipend can give them a nice beginning on a down-payment, especially if they're first-time home buyers. Winning 2nd could give a great down payment. Winning 1st could mean either a super down payment & a tidy nest-egg too. The larger the down payment, the smaller the monthly mortgage payment. If they want their monthly mortgage payment to be no more than their current rent payment, then they'll probably need 20% of the purchase price (20% of $200,000 = $40,000). As for the loan the family took out just before she left, I suspect the loan was a signature-only loan through her husband's credit union (isn't he a postal worker?). Those usually are for up to 2 1/2 months' salary and can be done within the hour (at least at the 3 different credit unions I've belonged to in my lifetime). As for owing money to the IRS, if the family had any savings in a mutual fund that went down the tubes this past year, they just might owe capital-gains taxes on money that's no longer there (has happened to lots of people who didn't cash out their capital gains). As for sending her children to "private" schools, I suspect the family long ago decided on their priorities. It doesn't sound like her kids are going to some rich hoity-toity school. I suspect that the girls are going to either a Catholic or some other church school, both of which are notoriously cheap (after all, why would people be so interested in having vouchers from the public-school system if the money didn't matter). I think it's unfair to judge Dani negatively for wanting to win for her family's sake, especially without stopping to think carefully about what she's said about her financial situation. At this time in her life, she wants to win to help improve her family's life. Amy wants to widen her dating pool and especially wants a date to the fair. Jason wants to prove that loyalty & friendship are more important than winning. Gerry wants to get a second chance at celebrity. Marcellas wants attention from the cameras so that his ex knows his real worth. Roddy wants to be with people so that he can eventually be alone. Lisa wants to float along on the wind (a guy comes along in the mall & says come with me and you'll be on tv; another guy comes along in the house and says 'hi' and her heart floats away). Dani's reason makes more sense to me than the rest of houseguests' reasons. |
Sheila494 | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:42 pm     you know sometimes its hard to be happy when you are struggling. |
Wendo | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:43 pm     You know, if she were running around that house 24/7 telling the houseguests "I'm poor, I'm destitute, I deserve the money!" then I could agree with your argument. But, not once, ONCE, has Dani EVER said she DESERVES the money for this reason. NEVER. Has anyone here ever heard that woman say, I deserve this money more than anyone here? I would argue that you haven't. |
Sunrise | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:46 pm     One more note before I run to the airport: You can get a loan in five working days with good credit. |
Silksmoke | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:46 pm     Zeyna the title of this thread is .......... ***DANI NEEDS TO WIN TO BUY A HOUSE***??NOT!!!! It says nothing about Dani manipulating other players. If that were the case, I would have to point out that all of them are manipulating other players to one extent or another, by any means available to them. From flaunting sex, to being as verbally abusive to one player behind their back to manipulate others into feeling the same way, to mesmerizing others into doing their bidding ala Jabberwock. This is a game of deception and minipulation and positioning oneself to make it to the end game. If Dani's brand of manipulation is not working, she won't make it to the end. This does not make her evil incarnate. |
Hypermom | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:48 pm     Battlestar, it's not hard to get a loan processed in three days. From what she has said, she knew she was in the running for the show. Dani and her husband thought ahead. Question: What are the rules of employment for a postal worker? Do they have to live in the area where they work like police officers? If they do, then that is a very good reason why they won't move like some have suggested on the board. |
Rabbit | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:49 pm     Using financial need is a tactic allowed in the rules of the game. It is no different than any other tactic. If it works you were smart to play it BUT, it can also work against you. Reality show contestants now know it is wise to provide an early exit to people who can use need as a deciding factor in a jury vote. No smart player would want to face an Autumn from BB2 or Eddie from BB1 when the inevitable question comes up, "What will you do with your winnings?" |
Earthmother | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:50 pm     As for using this as a card to gain votes..so be it. If people feel that she has played the game well enough and use her financial situation as the reason for their vote, that's their decision. If it's Dani and Lisa at the end will it be wrong for Eric to vote for Lisa because he slept with her? If it's Roddy and Dani at the end is Chiara going to vote for Dani or the man she loves (and I do believe she does)? If it's Dai and Marc at the end will Amy vote for Dani or her best friend Marc? However you have presented yourself to get the votes from the Jury is fair game. |
Mrfucia | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:53 pm     I think Dani has been portraying herself as the poorest member of the house, but I don't think that's true. I would guess Lisa (?) is the worst one off. I think that the only money problems Dani has is that she doesn't have enough money to live the way she wants to. It's not that she doesn't have enough money to live. If money's so important, lose the $1200 apt with a pool and gym and get the $1000 apt with no amenities. Even if insurance did cover part of the implants, there was still some out-of-pocket money. Did she really *need* implants? Millions of children go to public school and turn out just fine. Going to private school is a luxury. If it's too much of a sacrifice to send them to private school, then don't. And in the video of her family, it looked like their apt was nicely decorated. The furniture was not too shabby. So if she truly needs the money because she is in dire financial straits, there are plenty of sacrifices she can make in her life to save money. If she's just playing the money card to get sympathy, that's kind of a slimy thing to do. |
Uhoh | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:57 pm     gidget, i agree about values and living w/in one's means, but don't think wanting to own a home where one lives is either compromising values or being overly materialistic. i think it's about security. i also don't think danielle is an unhappy person who thinks owning a home will bring her happiness. |
Sheila494 | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:01 pm     it could be that danielle really wants to keep her family together..financial problems have been known to destroy families. |
Uhoh | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:02 pm     in listing reasons other hg's are on BB auntie said: "Roddy wants to be with people so that he can eventually be alone." LOLOLOL!!! |
Jhezzie | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:02 pm     Oh for Heaven's sake! What should Danielle do to be in the good graces of some people here? Sit there? Smile? Do the dishes? She's there to win! She like the others, is there to win the game! She's not abusing anyone. She's not sleeping her way through the ranks. She's trying to be the most sympathetic choice. Good! That's why she's there! Get over it. |
Bmh | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:04 pm     I agree Sheila my best friend had a nice family growing up but because his dad lost his job his whole family fell apart his mom and dad divorced and he was left to live with is aunt..it was awful All I can say is Danielle is doing this for her family..nobody else..this is important to her..and she is gonna do what she has to do to win..besides it is just a game |
Battlestar | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:04 pm     ---well at least we have something to talk about---the HGs are just too too boring right now. |
Pcakes2 | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:05 pm     Mrfucia, Dani never said she was in dire straights. She and her huband both work, and they want to provide a better life for their family...what's so wrong with that? As for the "lose the $1200 apt with pool and a gym and get the $1000 apt with no ammenities" comment, you have no idea how difficult it is to find housing here, let alone affordable housing. Besides, like someone said earlier, most all apt complexes here do have a pool. You can all pick on Dani as much as you want for her strategy, and whatever other characteristics you don't like about her, but no one should be faulted for wanting a better life for themselves and their families. |
Crazydog | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:07 pm     Mrfucia, I agree, I think that Lisa is the worst off financially. She moved from New York to L.A. with absolutely nothing. She took the train out there. Now she's a bartender and she can't be making a whole lot of money. I have never heard her complain about her monetary situation and her need to win the money. She has just as much of a right to want to win the money and make a good life for herself as Dani does. But I've never heard her throwing out the "poor me" card. Good for her, I like and respect her a whole lot more for it. |
Whowhere | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:07 pm     Amen Pcakes2 - I totally agree. |
Lombadier | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:11 pm     Great post, Mrfucia. Hypermom, in answer to your question, no, a postal worker need not live in the same area as their job. I have a friend that works for the post office and he makes a 30-40 minute communte to work every day. |
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