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Archive through August 21, 2002
Saggkl | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 02:28 pm     I agree, Danielle need to lose for throwing it this weeek. I am only sorry she might take Jason and Lisa with her. |
Eden | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 02:28 pm     If they had gone ahead and voted out Roddy they would have eliminated one link in the M/A/R chain. Then D/L/J/C try like Hell to win HOH and put up Amy and Marcellas AGAIN! You've just reduced the three headed monster to one in one week! It's amazing how little work Roddy had to do to make this all happen AGAIN. He just bats his eyes and throws down a few compliments to Amy and Marcellas and they do it all for him. People talk about Danielle USING others to do her dirty work... This guy is a master! Still shaking my head at the stupidity of Danielle if she changed her vote! Can't make it make sense. |
Wendo | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 02:36 pm     Crossfire, and you know what's so dang frustrating about that new info chain? The fact that Mar and Amy are only doing it because of their feelings for Roddy. (At least, that's what we've seen so far.) There doesn't seem to be any strategy behind it. Where is Mars indignation about Roddy dissing his girl Chiara? Or his boy Josh? Does Mar really believe that Roddy will protect him? Because, I don't think he will. Why? Well here's my new theory on Roddy... It seems to me that Roddy has been bringing Gerry along for the ride in order to be up with him in the finals. He knows that Gerry has been universally disliked among the HG. So, he's likely counting on that to help him in the end with the jury. BUT! Now he's got another person he can bring along too. Who? Why Amy of course. Think about it, here's a HG that was evicted unanimously, then gets to come back in the game, and then she ends up as a final two. I think that would rankle some of the jury members. Roddy is in what one would call a sweet spot right now. The only thorn in his side is Dani, and he started the negative talk about her last week (it's what he does), so people have had a week to stew. And, he seems to know that both Amy and Mar are not happy with her now. Plus, he's done some negative Dani talk to Lisa too. If Dani gets out of the HOH before Roddy, I'd bet money that he will lose right after that. |
Wiseolowl | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 02:45 pm     Dani's mistake was that even though she suspected Macellus of duplicity , she confided in him. She had her 3 votes, and should have kept her mouth shut. Her only enemies would then be Amy - who can't get HOH and Marcellus. Chiara would have been grateful for being saved and Dani would have kept control. Even if Marcellus won HOH, one of her allies would save her on the veto and the delusional Marcellus would probably put up Gerry. |
Espen | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 02:49 pm     Assuming Roddy stays, it does indeed look like DLJ vs RAM with Gerry the swing vote.. Though all it would take is for D to go for this to turn into LJR vs AM with Gerry giving passive support.. Although Gerry is laying low, I think he will be a compromise nominee at some point.. He may keep himself in until the end though.. |
Saggkl | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 03:22 pm     Did anyone get the conversation between Gerry and Dani? I caught the tale end but I heard the word plan. |
Justshirley | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 03:28 pm     No, no, SWEET JESUS, NO!!!! I leave for work this morning, confident that all is right with the D/J/L super-alliance, secure in the knowledge that these people have all finally realized that they absolutely CANNOT miss another opportunity to be rid of him, and that the evil Roddy mojo is soon to be banished from the land. I come home to THIS???!!! I haven't even had time yet to read through the posts -- just had to express my complete and total dismay. And disgust. I am sick. Okay. Be back later when I actually know what the hell is going on and how in the world this all blew up. AGAIN! [Just reviewed this before posting, and it occurred to me that this whole BB3 thing we've got going here really is some powerful sickness. Re-reading what I had written, I realized that there is a twisted thrill in this shocking turn of events -- knowing that this super-heightened, maximum-overdrive scheme-fest has just been extended for another week! I literally quiver with anticipation, yet at the same time just don't know how much more of this I can take. See what I mean? It really is a sickness. What's worse, is I don't want to be cured.] |
Bb3analyst | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 03:33 pm     If Roddy wins HOH, he will NOm Dani and Jason; Amy and Marci will be the 2 votes needed to put DAni out! If Roddy loses HOH, he is gone! All the rest of the hg will nominate him and put him out, period. If Dani wins HOH, Roddy is dead meat! If she loses, depends on who else wins as to who will be nominated. Except for Roddy winning HOH, the new HOH will nominate Roddy v. ????? depending on who they hate or distrust the most at the moment. Too many factors involved to make needless speculation. Therefore: If Roddy wins HOH, Dani is gone! If Dani wins HOH Roddy is gone! If Anyone besides Roddy wins HOH, Roddy is GONE! If Roddy does win HOH and kills off Dani; then he will have to not win HOH the next week and everyone will be gunning for him; so he has probably only one and absolutely no more than two weeks left in the house. There will still, at the worst be Gerry, Amy, Marcellus, Lisa, and Jason left in the house when Roddy leaves. Roddy has NO chance to be in the final two. He has lost all of his alliance, including Lisa. No way to survive. Dani may go first but the next person to go will be Roddy! |
Zachsmom | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 03:35 pm     Dani cannot nominate Roddy..she has a deal with him..look for her to throw the comp! |
Bb3analyst | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 03:41 pm     Dani can't nom Roddy? Think again! A promise made is a promise to be broken. As stated many times this year, a promise is only for the immediate forthcoming eviction vote. After thats over there are NO promises in effect! |
Maris | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 03:42 pm     That is right and if you make a deal with the devil it doesnt count. |
Espen | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 03:47 pm     Is it really certain that Amy or Marcellus will nominate Roddy if they get HoH? If they truely are aligned with him, they might not put him up.. If he makes it today, I think there is a 50/50 chance of surviving for two weeks.. After that, it is smaller, but not zero... But only time will tell.. If Dani leaves, the DLJ alliance is all but disolved, as L and J really haven't built a strong bond.. IF anything, they would both be more likely to align themselves with Roddy than with Amy, Marcellus or Gerry.. IMHO of course |
Bb3analyst | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 03:54 pm     Espen you have valid points. But, Lisa hates Roddy for taking Chi away from her. Jason wants Roddy gone badly and will probably go for broke for HOH this week. Amy can't win HOH this week, if she could, she probably would save Roddy by nominating two other people but she can't. Marcellus will nominate Roddy because of his fear of him, even though Marci has been playing up to Roddy two faced like Dani is now. ONly Gerry, Lisa, jason, and Marcellus can win HOH this week. All will nominate Roddy. |
Wendo | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 04:08 pm     Bb3analyst said, "Roddy has NO chance to be in the final two. He has lost all of his alliance, including Lisa. No way to survive." I think Roddy has EVERY chance to be in the final two. This man has survived TWO nominations, in a row mind you, where initially he was the target. DO NOT COUNT THIS GUY OUT. And, I'm starting to believe that he WANTED to lose his whole alliance. He kept talking about that yesterday with Dani and Chi. How he has no allies, lost all the people he trusted, and has no information. (Which we know is NOT true because he has Amy, who spills to that man like a sieve.) What better way to win end jury votes with your alliance than to have them all taken out by other people! This guy is NOT stupid. He is playing a great game (as well as Gerry, but those comments are in another thread). Don't like the way he's playing, hate his mind games, but D*MN they work. He's not going anywhere at all. |
Secretsmile | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 04:08 pm     I realize some of us have favorite HG's but I think Dani turned Marc againist her, all by herself. She played her hand too soon about exchanging Marc for Lisa. What ego made her think that Marcelles was too stupid to see it and get angry at Marcelles for not being as stupid as she thought he was. |
Micknrc | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 04:13 pm     Dani can't nom Roddy because of a binding bargain made in the veto box exchange challenge, if I'm not mistaken (and I often am). |
Wendo | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 04:14 pm     Bb3analyst said, "Marcellus will nominate Roddy because of his fear of him, even though Marci has been playing up to Roddy two faced like Dani is now." If Mar wins HOH, I think he'll put up Roddy. Mar seems to believe he has better odds with Roddy than he does with Dani. He!! the other night he said to Amy that he'd like the final three to be him, her and Roddy. You really believe Mar will put up Roddy? I don't think so at all. Though, he could put Roddy up with Danielle, that would certainly be interesting. How would the votes shake out, barring PoV isn't used: Amy - evict Dani (no way she'd boot Roddy, she's to ga ga.) Gerry - Unknown Lisa - Depends...maybe Roddy Jason - Roddy (loyal to Dani) So, Gerry keeps Dani, she stays. Or, Gerry boots Dani and then you've got a tie. That leaves Mar with the tie breaker... And I do believe he would boot Dani in a heartbeat. If Dani wants to assure herself another week and not go on maybes, she absolutely MUST go for HOH. Time to step up to the plate and do the work. |
Wendo | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 04:15 pm     Micknrc, no that wasn't when the promise was made. It was when he was HOH. The box exchange had to do with Amy. She promised Roddy, for his box, if he's ever up and she gets PoV, she would take him off. |
Bigbrotherbelle | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 04:16 pm     "Dani can't nom Roddy because of a binding bargain made in the veto box exchange challenge, if I'm not mistaken (and I often am)." Sorry That was Amy (she made a deal to use the veto if she won it when he was nom'd). Dani says she can't nom R because she made a deal with him when he was HoH that he wouldn't put her up if she didn't nom him when she got HoH. That's what I heard her say, but whether it's true or not I'm not sure. |
Micknrc | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 04:16 pm     Oh, right you are! (see, I told you I was prob wrong!) |
Kathyb | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 04:40 pm     I thought I read today that Roddy told Amy that he doesn't owe anyone anything, but a few of them owe him. How did that happen? |
Bigbrotherbelle | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 04:42 pm     "I thought I read today that Roddy told Amy that he doesn't owe anyone anything, but a few of them owe him. How did that happen? " He made deals when he was HoH and when Chia was HoH he made deals for the both of them. Gerry is one for sure and Dani says she has a deal with him. |
Secretsmile | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 04:47 pm     Roddy was very careful to put time limits on his deals. He never left one open ended, his deals with Gerry and Jason were both for 3 weeks each and everyone sold their souls by not demanding the same back from him. I don't keep track of all promises but it wouldn't surprise me to find out he actually did live up to every thing he promised, because he never said FOREVER. |
C1mag | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 04:49 pm     And my honest feelings are that Dani now deserves to lose. She caved on this one big time. Lisa and Jason should NOT trust her anymore. She is serving her own agenda and at the last minute forced them to pull back their vote just for her. Lisa was even willing to hold off on putting out Chiara just for her and then she pulls this. Dani does not know how to play this game. I can hardly wait til she is nominated this week. The saddest part of all of this is that Amy wants Chiara out for one reason only. Too have Roddy to herslef. She doesn't even care if she is the next to go. I saw the whole thing blow up last night and Roddy did not do this. Amy was the one who had a tantrum because she wasn't getting what she wanted. |
Grannygrunt | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 04:55 pm     And between Amy and Mar they screwed up the best deal going. I am just as mad at them as I am at Dani for caving. The 3 of them blew this whole deal. And as Dani told Mar the other day (when they were sitting outside and Dani was trying to convince Amy Roddy had to go) you might as well go ahead and put a big R on the table and let him win the game. |
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