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Woodpecke®

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 09:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
My main reason for posting this morning is that I refuse to fall for the notion that Roddy is a master at the art of deception. EVERYBODY knows what he is doing; HE PLAYED THIS GAME TOO EARLY. He will not win this game, and to think otherwise is to ignore the other players completely. Danielle, Lisa, Gerry and Jason are not stupid, and it is time to give them far more credit. The world according to Big Brother doesn't revolve around Roddy. He will not be around at the end. I can easily be comfortable with that statement. So can you.

Squaredsc

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 09:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
woodpecker, will you eat a hat if you are wrong?

Jaysgal

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 09:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You guys are so wrong. And why must Jason do what Danielle is not willing to do? Why must he put up Roddy?

But sorry to disappoint you guys, Roddy will not flake out on Jason. If he wins HOH next and puts up Danielle and Jason, it would be for Jason as the decoy or to prevent Jason from using POV to save Danielle.

I think that even Lisa would vote to evict Danielle instead of Jason, because it was Jason that saved her behind, not Danielle.

But even if Lisa votes to evict Jason, Amy and Marcellas will not vote that way. Besides, Roddy would be grilling them about evicting Danielle. Roddy will not fight with Danielle because he wants to make her feel guilty for speaking bad about him. And that possibly means she would feel guilty that she demonised him but he was nice to her and give him her vote in the finals. But Roddy wants Danielle out. The only motive he would have to keep Danielle over Jason is for Danielle to keep her promise to him should she ever be HOH. But Roddy knows that she doesn't want the HOH title and will less likely ever try winning or actually win it, so she will be the one to leave. I don't think that he'll even put Jason up. He'll probably put up Danielle and Lisa. But most likely, he will avoid winning HOH so that he would not be stuck in that position of putting up Jason as a decoy or Danielle escaping. He'll probably leave it for Marcellas or Amy to do.

Mystery

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 09:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If Roddy will avoid getting HOH (and I agree that that's the most likely scenario) then any promise he makes to Jason is worthless, and I don't see the advantage to Jason of an alliance with Roddy.

As for Roddy possibly nominating Jason as a decoy: We've seen how the "decoy" situation has worked out so far; the decoy almost always goes.

Woodpecke®

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 09:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If I am wrong and Roddy makes the finals, I will promise to eat Roddy's hat and admit a miracle occured. Roddy winning would mean that the rest of the players were completely clueless and moronic. I know they are paying attention to this guy, and he is not a master of anything. Gone and soon forgotten, that is our Roddy. (I would also like to add that I see nothing evil about the way Roddy is playing this game, I won't bash him personally. He is doing the best he can with the personality he has cultivated, and he is very entertaining to observe on the show and the Live Feeds.)

Goddess146

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 09:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason will not use his veto to nominate Roddy.

Roddy stayed up all night so that he could spend a couple of ours cementing his bond with Jason. It worked quite well. Near the end of the conversation, Jason was imitating Roddy's way of speaking including that "little girl" voice.

During the converstation, Jason told Roddy everyone else in the house had suggested that he put Roddy up. Roddy was shocked and said in his little girl voice "I have to get HOH next week."

Theo17

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 09:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
My prediction is danni, roddy or jason are evicted next week for sure. i dont see any 2 ways about it. i feel lisa is a lock for final 4 and if gerry goes this week marcy is a lock also

Theo17

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 09:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
goddess that is what disappoints me with jason. not only is he willing to save roddy but he has no problems putting everyone elses head on the block. I still want jason to win but he has not be smart or loyal

Spunky

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 09:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, we'll soon find out if (to use Marcellas' words) he has a deal with Roddy.
If he doesn't use the POV, his excuse to nominate Gerry is no longer valid (fearing that Gerry may have used the veto to save Roddy, even though Gerry assured him he wouldn't use it).
So, it will be clear he's in league with Roddy and Danielle should tell him he broke the alliance and she is disappointed and he may actually have caused her future eviction.
See Jason cry some more...
How did hand pick these guys to be in this show is beyond me.

Curiouscat

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 10:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If Jason doesn't use the POV like I suspect, next week, depending who gets HOH, it will be either Danielle or Roddy up for nomination. Whoever else is nominated with either of them will be safe because those two are considered the strongest players and should be eliminated at this point in the game. Jason has left two doors open for himself this week and can go to either of the two who survives next week. Roddy wants another "Eric" to trust and get through the next couple weeks with and Jason is his best bet over Marcellus.

Guiltyviewer

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 10:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
wood, you don't know how right i hope you are that jason will in fact use the pov. i agree that roddy, as much as he can bug the heck out of me with his smooth talking, is adding an element to the game that makes it entertaining. guess i feel like i'm watching a ball game that's see-sawed back and forth several times and my team just keeps falling short of making the needed outs.
thanks for the kind words about live feeds, too...always nice to know folks are getting something out of it, and i do it just for that reason--my way of giving back a little bit for the pleasure i get from participating in this forum. when my laptop's up to snuff, will resume my lfping, too.

if ya hafta eat a hat, please get one other than roddy's....what would he use to cover his you-know-what spot....wicked, wicked snickering as i traipse to another thread..

Theo17

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 10:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
the scary part of jason to me is if its roddy vs danni he will stick with roddy even though danni has saved him from 1-2 nominations and roddy has pushed for a jason nomination twice.

Theo17

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 10:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
if jason uses pov and nominates roddy than woody should be declared king of these boards. sadly that doent have a snowballs chance in helllllll

Spunky

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 10:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wouldn't be nice to see Jason's face when he sees the tapes...Roddy pushing twice for Jason's nomination and Dani actually protecting Jason... and he causing her eviction... how ironic!

Marameko

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 10:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Poor Jason is as clueless as a 6 month old child.

Theo17

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 10:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
spunky its going to be sad for jason and danni. he is rewarding the one out to get him and hurting the one that saved him twice.

Sassylady

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 10:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Theo, I am seeing it like you are this morning. As much as I like Jason and thought Jason was playing the best game--Jason totally is in Roddy's hands now. He is saying to us (DR), to him self (alone in the room), and now to Roddy: I decided friendship with you (Roddy) is more important than 500G.

Theo17

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 10:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
sassy i feel badly for the kid and for danni. i think danni was loyal to him and I feel badly for her. I predict jason is gone in 1-2 weeks. roddy or danni will make the final 4 but not both

Maris

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 10:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree, Jason will be gone pretty quickly then Amy Marcellas and Lisa. I think Roddy's personality is such taht he wants to be up against the strongest player in the end as some sort of validation. Danni would probably want Amy with her at the end to guarantee the money.

Beagle

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 10:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
BB just said "Good morning HG's, it's time to get up." It's about time!

Jaysgal

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 10:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, you brought up an interesting scenario. However, I do not think that Roddy's psychology is like that. People of such psychology are looking for easy people to prey on and have no problem cutting loose people that they cannot intimidate.

They would prefer to torture those people that they cannot intimidate; but if torture is not an option, they get rid of them. I don't see why he would want to compete with Danielle. I don't think that he sees Danielle as extremely strong. He just sees her as stubborn but playing with fire. She will go.

Roddy's psychology does not work that way. Physical strength is not the kind of strength Roddy measures. I think the person he would rather see as very strong is Gerry. He would like to see Gerry get to the end. He wants to compete with a mentally strong person for the finale, as if playing chess.

Again, I'm almost convinced that Roddy is not crazy about the money and would have no problem sharing a chunk of it. He just loves the thrill of the game. He wants to get to the end with rough rides.

Kennyb

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 11:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What time do they usally do the meeting?

Wendo

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 11:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"During the converstation, Jason told Roddy everyone else in the house had suggested that he put Roddy up. Roddy was shocked and said in his little girl voice "I have to get HOH next week.""

The fact that Jason betrayed other HG's with this statement to Roddy is abominidable. He threw the rest of the HG's on the sword for a "friendship" with Roddy. Roddy was likely going to throw HOH for the foreseeable future, now, that's not likely. Not only did he expose Danielle (which Rod's already aware of) but he exposed Lisa too. She had been doing a good job of keeping face with Roddy as well as supporting Jason.

Shame on Jason. Danielle, and Lisa, have been loyal to him. Dani going so far as to keep Ja off the block. That he hasn't honored their alliance in the same way is sad.

What happened to Jason's "Dani, you and me are going to be the final two."

Spunky

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 11:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
And I was hoping this guy (Jason) to win it all in the end. I take it all back.

Theo17

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 11:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i wish jason was drunk so I would have some way to excuse him. Its like when amy does these things she is either drunk or in love but how can I explain away jason doing this to danni and lisa who have been very loyal?