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Archive through August 18, 2002
Chance | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:35 pm     Maris, You just don't like Gerry...thats your right. I teach special ed(25yrs) I have dealt with parents from other 3rd world countries and Gerry is right...many different cultures are ASHAMED of disabilities and somewhat shunn (sp?)their kids...they often feel like educating them is a waste of time. I heard Gerry too and he was talking about this aspect of the parents. |
Rain | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:53 pm     I like Gerry. My gut tells me he has a good soul. I don't hear him bashing the other houseguests--he tells stories from history and from great literature and facts. Re: his discussion about 3rd world disabled kids--Third world countries have a problem with Tribalism. Cultures with a strong background of tribalism often abandon any child with disabilities, even in this day and age. Tribalists often fear mulitple births, also, and in general don't hold freedom, equal justice, women's rights, etc. so dear. (just recently in Pakistan a young girl from a lower caste tribe was raped because her brother was walking with a girl from a higher caste tribe) In western society the trend has been to kinda set these cultures "on a pedestal" but that has blinded people to the harsh reality. People who are different in any way, or women, are often at a severe disadvantage. Western culture was and is the leading force behind educating and rehabiliating the disabled (and of course women). And this, I believe, is what Gerry was trying to say. And it irks me to hear people bash him over it. However, he IS in need of better hygiene, as are many men I've run across in my life. |
Maris | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 02:11 pm     Yes I dont like him but I get really annoyed when I hear someone say "if they dont like it they can leave" and that is exactly what he said about the parents of the third world children. That isnt indicative of someone who is sensitive to other cultures and is a sentiment I have heard too much lately. I saw no sensitivity from him regarding the cultures these people came from. I am moving on. |
Abby | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 02:32 pm     "in need of better hygiene" Comment, If your life was in a fish bowl 24/7 can you come away from it with a gleaming record? I have seen cases in all of them that were not.. say hygienic. (marc excluded...he uses alcohol)<g> to watch this you must realize that no human being is perfect. They are like bugs on a slide under the looking glass. to base someone's character on how he dresses or looks is shallow. I feel Gerry is a kind soul, imperfect, but kind. I guess anyone can take what a person says and spin it to make that person look evil, not listening to the words. Just think if someone else said those exact same words they would be called "saints" because Gerry said them..... :::sigh::: |
Maryann | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 03:01 pm     I admire Gerry for admitting what was clearly obvious..that the only thing "negative" about Marc was that he looked different. While I don't believe that every one of the HGs would have gone along with Josh's ridiculous plan to get rid of Marc (for ONCE Chia was right!) I do believe that racism is sometimes, with people of a certain age an almost unconscious reaction. So Gerry recognized a flaw within himself and corrected it as soon as he did-for this I admire him.I also don't believe that the "SIX" were mad because he broke his promise to them, I think that they were peeved because they didn't have the guts to admit their own racism-that old "why we didn't even NOTICE that Marc was black!" just does not FLY with me. I want Danielle to win...mainly because she's a mom who keeps her eyes on the prize..she has a bigger stake in this deal..she wants a house for her kids. Where are you moving Maris? May I come!? |
Csnog | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 03:12 pm     We know that the same ones post who do not like Gerry. You would think that they (the posters) would skip this thread and move on to the ones that they love. Gerry is among the few HG's who has not stooped to the name calling. I will continue to defend Gerry for having the courtesy of treating the other HG's as human beings. We have seen and heard some of the other HG's continualy attack personaly another person. I do not consider that to be part of the game. |
Poser | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 03:26 pm     "I want Danielle to win...mainly because she's a mom who keeps her eyes on the prize" Danielle is as catty as the rest. She would rather sit around and gossip about Gerry than tell him he's annoying her. Lori pointed that out and Danielle went ballistic. As far as I'm concerned, "going ghetto" on anybody shows that you are a <> without manners. There are two people in the house who treat others with respect, Gerry and Jason. The rest are a bunch of immature, rude louts who deserve nothing. About Gerry's hygene: Gerry showers, shaves and brushes his teeth every day. I doubt that he pees on his hands. The whole hygene thing is just another way to hate somebody who isn't the same as the rest. Gerry isn't one of the frat house beautiful people, so they pick on him. Gerry is a decent man. Jason has class. Eric had the good sense to not have sex on camera. The others are disgusting and cruel. 007 |
Goddessatlaw | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 03:33 pm     I saw a picture of the house Dani already has for her kids. It looked like a nice one. |
Earthmother | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 03:39 pm     Thank You for explaining Edno67. I was beginning to wonder if I misinterpreted his convo with Dani. I knew what he was actually saying but the sound breaks up and I think many times understanding gets lost. |
Abby | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 03:41 pm     Well said Poser....here here! If the rest would wake up early as Gerry does they could see that he not only makes sure he is clean but also the Patio area, pool, and Hot tub... when was the last time you saw one of the others clean the pool? |
Kminfinity | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 03:46 pm     Ditto what Poser said... |
Bbrules4ever | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 03:49 pm     so is the "popcorn" story about Gerry true or not!!!!!? |
Bernie | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 03:56 pm     Sometimes one gives up posting positively about Hgs one likes, because it seems like a lost cause-it degenerates into arguments so often, so I'm glad to see that many folks see the same good in Gerry that I do. Of all the Hgs he has badmouthed others the least, and even when he's alone with others, he doesn't backstab. His reaction to the knowledge that he was being badmouthed for his hygiene was a model of restraint, and even though he was upset that Danielle had been hypocritical, he has only made a couple of very mild comments, in her hearing, which seemed to be so subtle that no one responded. Most of all, he isn't anything like as unclean as he's been described-he does bathe etc every day, but as few are up when he is, they are too biased to realise. His allergies are also the cause of his stuffiness and coughs, and to carp on about someone's health symptoms is very low, especially as BB didn't help him with medication. Since the only thing that can be proved against Gerry is that he talks over most folk's heads, and is paternal, I say - so what? He's a parent and a teacher, with education, and so his behaviour is pretty normal for a man of his age and experience. Since Roddy, who has many fewer years under his belt, and a lot less experience, pontificates on a much larger scale than Gerry, I'm quite willing to give Gerry the gold star in the self-control category. All in all Gerry has behaved very well in trying conditions, and the longer he stays, the more I hope he makes it to the last few in the house-he will have paid for his time in everything that he has endured from those nitwits who surround him. Just my humble opinion!  |
Spunky | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 10:03 am     He's a lucky guy.. so far deals have been presented to him on a silver platter... He must be saying to himself: Oh Wow! I don't even have to go and ask, they just come to me! How easy is that? As for his opinion? Mmmm, he must realize no one there is interested and so why should he?? He did try and we saw the results. I really prefer him to keep quiet... |
Jan | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 10:05 am     hear hear Bernie...or is it here here??? Oh dear I have been too long in the what Roddy said thread |
Allietex | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 12:37 pm     I presented this idea on another thread but I think it really fits here. A senerio I would love to see. Next week chi wins HOH. She noms Amy and Mar. Then Gerry gets POV. Mar runs around trying to get Gerry to veto him. At the POV ceremony Gerry tells Mar that he would have liked to veto him but it upset him so the first time that he would not dare insult him again. Then he vetoes Amy and Mar is voted out against the new nom. |
Bernie | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 01:54 pm     Jan - right the first time, LOL! Allietex - that's SCANDALOUS! But it would be beautiful POETIC JUSTICE! Marcie has bitten the hand that fed him far too often  |
Ruditoo | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 02:52 pm     GERRY is playing his heart out and without badmouthing anyone and that' the nicest word I can use for what R,C,Josh,T,M & D have done. I don't understand why BB (AS) didn't take Josh out of the game when he attacked and hit Gerry as he lay sleeping!!! I would have had Josh' head served up by BB for that!! IBWMWH that any of the other HHG would have too. Gerry has indured more abuse physical and mental than anyone on BB3. No one may think he has a chance of winning(outside the BBH),but the HG are aware he and Jason are playing a much CLEANER game. I hope Gerry makes it to the finals. |
Wcv63 | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 03:03 pm     Jan, I know how you feel! Hear! Hear! Meaning A shout of support or agreement. Origin Originated in the British parliament in the 18th century as a contraction of 'hear him, hear him'. It is still often heard there although sometimes used ironically these days. |
Teresah2000 | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 03:21 pm     Do you think Gerry has any idea what the other HG think of him? Being around the other HG, you would at least catch on , on what is going on around you. I think he knows everything people are saying behind his back, and even knows about Marc. haterd of him. I think Marc. is really the only one that has a problem with his hygiene, the rest of the HG just go along with marc, to make themselves feel powerful. I think he is playing dum, while keeping his mouth shut and eyes open. |
Wcv63 | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 03:55 pm     I'm not saying this to be mean but I've made an observation and would like to know if anybody else has noticed it. When Gerry walks he leans forward slightly and tends not to place his heels on the ground....kind of like tip toeing but not really. It's interesting because I've never seen anyone walk quite like this before. |
Twistedsis | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 04:24 pm     OK, this 1 brought me out of my lurker status on this board. HELLO EVERYONE!!!!!! Back to Gerry. The man is a teacher of disabled children. I am assuming this also includes DD children. ( Old term would be mental retarded ). Now I myself worked in this field for over 12 years. You learn to give compliments freely and from the heart as these kids need it even more then flowers need sun and water. It becomes second nature and can be hard to suppress even outside of work. This also includes the shower episode as at times it is easy to slip and forget your invading others space just our of habit in teaching others ADL ( activites of daily living showering, shaving, brushing teeth ect. ) I personally think alot of these gripes are more from Gerry slipping due to this then anything else. Face it the people need some form of stimuli and Gerry doesn't fight back. |
Pamy | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 04:31 pm     Wcv..he might have heel spurs, a friend of mine does and when they act up it hurts to put pressure on them. I like Gerry, I think he has played fair, doesn't talk about others, is nice to everyone, takes critisism like a man, and appears to have a good soul. Even when they all ignored him, he never complained, it used to break my heart seeing him sitting alone playing cards. I just kept thinking how sad is wife and kids must feel. As for his hygene, he has come a long way and tries to do the right thing
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Realtvfan | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 04:47 pm     Wcv83 You may think I'm making this up. I'm not. As with Gerry, I too do not walk with perfect posture. I have had Gerry's walking pattern all my life as well. My tilting/walking situation is worse than Gerry's. I have been told that they think mine relates back to inner ear damage (of which I have plenty) at birth. I have seen very few people in my life who have this issue. |
Wcv63 | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 04:54 pm     Thanks Pamy and Realtvfan for your responses. Gerry's way of walking certainly isn't obvious or even all that noticable...it just struck as slightly unusual and wondered about it. Realtv...does this make you self-conscious or did it make you self-conscious when you were younger? Forgive me if my question is presumptuous and feel free to tell me to MMOB! |
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