Archive through August 24, 2002
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Archive through August 24, 2002
Mellbell416 | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:25 am     Where's all of Dani's fire and plotting? It looks like she has completely burned out and has given up. What a turnaround though - just last week she wa gleefully telling the DR that it was her that was going to win. Now it seems that she has capitulated to Roddy's machinations. Will she ever be able to make a comeback? It doesn't look too good.. |
Sybilbb3oracle | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:12 am     She now realizes how alone she is with Jason's new allegiance to Roddy! |
C1mag | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:15 am     She burned herself out. She can't even take on Jasons nominations. Roddy has set the rules within the house... You must not dare to lie or go behind someones back. Although the creators of this game say that is allowed Roddy has made sure that this house does not do this. It all but destroys her strategy before she entered the house. She's been played out. |
Theo17 | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:19 am     I think if you are going out you pull out all the stops and try everything not lay down and die. she should be talking deals with gerry via pov if she gets it and pushing jason and marcy on their deals with roddy. If you are going to lose a baseball came take your best swing dont lose sitting with the bat on your shoulder. |
Maris | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:19 am     Dani is just regrouping, Once she knows who the player is in the POV then she will move. If she is the POV look to her to cut a deal with Jason. She vetoes Amy to put up Roddy. Let the house decide. She tells Jason if he puts in Roddy, she will get a guarantee from Gerry that he does not nominate or vote for Jason next week. Dani does not waste time working the crowd until she knows what she is dealing with. Wait for the POV. If there is one thing I am sure of it is that Dani will not give up easily. |
Missy2 | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:26 am     Dani will not and has not given up! This chick is a fighter! I think she's sitting back waiting for pov. |
Zeyna | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:26 am     Dani will not give up until the bitter end. This woman will push her agenda until she walks out the door. She's already made sure to remind Jason once again how worried she is, and will surely mention her desperate need for money by the end of the day. BTW, anyone notice the huge tv at her house.. it must be a hard life.. |
Wendo | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:30 am     Dani's definitely down, but she hasn't given up. She's aware that her position in the game has been weakened significantly. And, that her alliance to Jason, while still existing I believe, is not what it was. I think she's getting to the realization that she's got to do some of the up front work done herself. If she does, then she needs to wrangle out of Roddy's strategy (making people honor their words; when it's no necessary in this game) and get HOH and put him up herself. Stop saying she can't nominate him and just do it. Say in the DR, "Hey, this game isn't about me helping someone else win. If I have to lie to get me to the end, then so be it." Or something along those lines. It's interesting, actually, seeing her talk to Lisa just now. She seems very aware of her precarious position. Lisa, I believe, HAS seen through Roddy's strategy, that's apparent. And, if he were on the block, I do think she would vote him out. But, she's also aware of HER position in the house so, why "burn" the bridge with Roddy if she doesn't have to. Which is GOOD for her. I'm trying to look at all the players separately from now on, rather than units. Because, ultimately they all are playing for themselves and not for 3 or 2, but just one, themselves. Dani needs to realize, if I want the job done, then I need to step up to the plate and do it myself. If she doesn't, well, then she loses for sure. She'll either do it by HOH next week, which is risky - winning HOH is not a sure bet. Or, she'll try to do it with PoV this week. Which means pulling off either Gerry or Amy. It will definitely expose herself in the game. But, risk is part of the game. The question of who to remove is dicey too. Removing Gerry would certainly get the ire of Marcellas and possibly Amy. Removing Amy, when she feels she's safe exposes Mar to the block, and still risks the ire of the others. And, of course, may upset Jason as well. Sorry for the length. Is your head spinning yet? Cause I know mine is...LOL! |
Fabnsab | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:30 am     I think it is way too early to decide the fate of this game. I was hoppong around the BB2 boards last night and came across a thread titled "Has Krista already won?- I don't see how she can't" At one time alot of us thought Krista was a sure bet to win it all. We all know how that turned out so Dani should't give up. This is anyones game- well, maybe except for Gerry...lol |
C1mag | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:36 am     Wendo glad to see you back on board after a F_cked up night. I agree with your Dani thougts. However, she does lack in the area of seeing things through if there is too much time. If she could just give a knee jerk reaction then she would be back in the game. When she sits and thinks too much about where she is headed then she fails every time. This is what screwed her up last time. |
Wendo | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:38 am     C1mag said, "Roddy has set the rules within the house... You must not dare to lie or go behind someones back. Although the creators of this game say that is allowed Roddy has made sure that this house does not do this. It all but destroys her strategy before she entered the house. She's been played out." C1mag, I was thinking about this as well. It's almost as if Roddy is taking the opposite Will strategy. He's obviously aware of how will played the game last year by lying, scheming, and the like. So, to ensure that no one is practicing this strategy, even for one lie, he keeps bringing up "words", honesty, morality, and trust. He has literally tied the hands of the other players in the house because he keeps saying, in essence, YOU CAN'T DO THIS. Interesting tactic to take, really. |
Wendo | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:42 am     Zeyna said, "BTW, anyone notice the huge tv at her house.. it must be a hard life.." Geez, now we're critizing the players for the electronics they have in their house? We certainly are a tough crowd. ps. Heya C1mag. Yes, I've regrouped and feel MUCH better than yesterday! LOL! Of course, my new iPod helps sooth my feelings as well. |
Zeyna | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:58 am     Tough crowd indeed, although I've seen worse insults that the size of Dani's electronic equipment . But surely we can all agree that Dani is not as poor as she says she is. |
Wiseolowl | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:10 pm     When you start thinking ahead over the next few weeks this game is still up for grabs - and always was - one misstep of any alliance with HOH will turn things around. We don't have a Hardy this year who excelled physically over the others when the competions seemed to be geared in his favour and even then he lost. |
Wcv63 | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:14 pm     No Dani has not given up. She is however feeling vulnerable and trying hard to regroup and refocus. I believe that Dani views this game as a way to significantly affect and impact the lives of her family members and feels if she doesn't succeed she will have failed them. |
Bbrules4ever | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:18 pm     if danni wins americas choice this week(video from home) she will break down in tears.....just firming her resolve to win the $$$ for her precious family! |
Wendo | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:20 pm     Zeyna said, "But surely we can all agree that Dani is not as poor as she says she is." How do you know what her personal financial situation is? Have you seen her bank statements? What her savings are, if any? I'm not going to assume what her financial wherewithall is either way because I do not know. |
Zeyna | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:59 pm     Wendo, I can infer that her financial situation is not as bad as she makes it out. I won't list all the reasons because they've been mentioned already, but I did want to point out that having a 48" tv does not spell out financial ruin. I read so many comments here that are not based on fact, so I figured I can add my view, which unfortunately cannot be based on Dani's financial statements. If everything was to be based on fact here, Roddy haters wouldn't able to make all kinds of observations without a psychiatric evaluation at hand. Yet they do, and somehow that's ok..go figure. |
Theo17 | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 01:01 pm     a 48 inch tv can be as cheap as $999. a regular tv costs $300. So they have a big tv. Maybe it was a gift? she lives in california where home prices are high. She wants a house. Atleast she is honest about the money and that she wants it. roddy acts like he plays for the good of mankind. |
Fabnsab | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 01:05 pm     I have got 3 words for you...RENT A CENTER...that is the way people who don't have alot of money can get things like a big screen tv. I don't think Dani ever claimed to be destitute, just in need of 500G for her family. She could have used an income tax check on her tv. We will never know.And do we really care? |
Jaysgal | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 01:07 pm     I say from the live feeds I read, the Amy and Gerry nomination was all Danielle's idea. She's still in control of Jason, and that is why she is not so upset or surprised or hyper. Jason is still her buddy and still really sees her as his peer where she's the leader/boss. I hate to see or say this; but after reading the live feed, that's the only conclusion I could draw. |
Theo17 | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 01:09 pm     how can you say she is not upset? She has had crying fits for the last day. She hates that roddy is staying and that she has a target on her back. marcy even told her that by saying i dont care what everyone else says about you I still love you |
Gina8642 | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 01:11 pm     I don't think Dani has given up. I think she learned a lesson last week on what happens when you push your own agenda too hard. If she hadn't done anything, Chiara woould have gone. Instead she got everyone in a dither, and in the end Chiara was gone. Stepped on a lot of toes for zero result. Jason is her strongest ally. She cannot step on his toes again. She must support what he does. If she tries to out menuver his desires for this next eviction she can lose him. I think she will try to play cool this week. Next week she has to hope no one puts her up, and if they do, she has the numbers. I'm not sure she can keep cool, 'cause she keeps bringing up her nerves. (She is afraid of Roddy.) Jason doesn't need to be afraid of Roddy nearly as much as anyone else. That's fine. I think Dani maybe made another mistake (not sure here). She told Lisa that she was sure Lisa would make it to final three. If Lisa looks at this hard, she can see that her alliance with D is not as tight as D's with Jason. But, maybe that is ok. If L makes it to final three, then she has a 30% chance of getting to final two (via winning HOH). |
Jaysgal | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 01:14 pm     She was crying, but this was her idea. It was the second hypothetical option she gave to Jason: now saying maybe get G this week saying G said he wouldn't use POV, d skeptical D - to put on safe side I would put up R and G. J - but you wouldn't do it D - I have a deal. I'd put up A and G J - my fam is probably screaming. They know exactly what I should do D - I don't trust G, I don't getting slower J - I don't know. I wish it was a week further into the game. Everyone has an excuse why they shouldn't go. Amy knocks and enters J - I have two options. no matter what happens you are fine. either way you are fine. but you might now J - if you don't get a key today, you are safe. --------- She may manage to convince Jason to change it again, since he won the POV. However, since Roddy's been good to Jason and actually rebuked Marcellas and Amy for speaking that way about Jason this morning, Danielle hardly has an argument. What may happen is, Jason may save Gerry and put up Marcellas. Who knows. Let's see if her Majesty can convince him. |
Cameltoes | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 01:15 pm     I do recall Danielle discussing owing a great deal of money to the IRS. I don't think it's poverty so much as acquired debt. She also made a comment about her mother wanting her to have everything the she herself didn't. Danielle is likely trying to do the same for her kids, and living beyond one's means and getting into debt are the likely result. I do not think she should have brought it into the game as much as she has simply because she should have been smart enough to know that people would become resentful of that. I do think she las legitimate reasons to want the money . They all do. As for her giving up, I don't think she has but I think she's likely feeling that her options have become very limited. I wish both she and Gerry could win America's Choice. |
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