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Meggieprice

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 02:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It was not Dani he was talking about, not this time. I felt he was clearly (thats the joshism I find myself using lol!) trying to plant some doubt in Chias mind about Roddy. Dani was not involved in the incidents he referred to.

Kittykatt

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 02:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought Marci was mad at Dani because she was ACTING like Kiki's friend then talking behind her back.. Will Marci tell Kiki Dani was the one that made Amy put Roaay and her on the chopping block? I hope so AND Marci is right Dani IS getting others to do her dirty work, Hope Marci spill the beans on Dani....

Sam222

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 02:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I really think that Mar does not think that Chiara is going, I honestly don't think he would be bothering with her right now if he thougt she was gone. Honestly if Chiara stays this week and Lisa does not get HOH she maybe around for a little bit. Strategy is what is going to go into major play next week not personal dislike. This week is laying the basis of a new war in the house between Mar and Dani. I actually think that both Amy and Chiara may be around for a while as they are not perceived as threats-both of them will love this!

Meggieprice

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 02:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Pulk - I am not doubting that Marc is gunning on some level for Dani and the things you refer to are true-but in THIS particular conversation, which I heard, it was not about Dani. Not to say Marc wont work on that next, just not this time.

Actually I fully expected, in light of his recent anti Dani turn, that he would take the opportunity to plant some seeds with Chia but when he didnt it made me suspect that he'll wait until Roddy is safely evicted and then work to get Chia on his team.

Cameltoes

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 02:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Meggie. Marcellas does have issues with Danielle but right now his most pressing concern is Roddy. After Roddy leaves, I wouldn't be surprised to see another such conversation with Chiara about Danielle.

Meggieprice

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 02:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Camel-we posted the same thing at the same time!

Marc will gun for one at a time.

I am able to be much more of an authority about who said what since I became a shut in vouyeur! I should in all rights be a LFP but I am on pain meds so it takes me way too long to post...

Pulk

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 02:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh right i wasn't really commenting on the current ongoing conversation (whatever that may be) more on Marcellas having a problem with the way Dani is trying her hardest to stay as neutral as hell and let others play the bad guy.

Wendo

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 02:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani told Chi she would do what it takes to "have her back". But, this also had to be done without Jason being put in jeapordy, since that is her first and foremost alliance. She is loyal to Jason above all others. The only way to ensure that Ja didn't go up, was to have Roddy up with Chi. Dani put it out there, Amy didn't have to bite.

Kittykatt, they are ALL getting other people to do their dirty work. Not just Dani, but all of them. I have to laugh, because Jason (as good a guy as he is) hasn't won ANYTHING. He continues to throw competitions, he admits it. Why? SO OTHER PEOPLE DO THE WORK. That's the game.

IMO, Marcellas is the same as all the others. He b*tched and moaned about how last week Chi forced everyone to vote out Josh, but he sure didn't have a problem with it this week when Amy insisted that they all vote out Chi.

Quite honestly, in his conversation he could be talking about Roddy, Dani, AND Lisa. He's playing strategy to ensure his safety with Chi if she gets HOH. It's a smart move.

Sandy

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 03:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No matter who Marc was talking about, I don't understand why is it was so important that he talk with Chi today. If he's sticks with his agreement with Dani and Lisa (last nights agreement! lol!) Chi will be around and he has plenty of time to talk to her. It's almost like he thinks shes going and before she goes he wants her to know certain things.

Sbw

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 03:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know for certain what he was talking about, but I thought when Marc first approached Chi and told her that he would talk to her later, he told her it wasn't about Roddy. That would leave Dani/Lisa..... But I must admit as fast as I skimmed the feeds I may have missed something.

Grannygrunt

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 03:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Another thing........he mentioned to her to be sure and watch the tapes. Of course that could be next week or 3 weeks from now but he did want her to see the tapes. Wonder why? If she watches the tapes she is gonna see him last night saying he never gave his word to Amy only that he would support whatever she did and so he could change his vote. Now why would he want her to see that? From that LITTLE BIT of convo one would assume he is voting out Roddy. So is he really wanting her to see all of the tapes or just a select few. The bashing with Amy I am sure he doesn't want her to see.

C1mag

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 03:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Marcellus knows that Roddy is going and he is doing a last pitch to see how he stands if he gets nominated this next week. He pulled something similar about Gerry last night with Jason. He asked him who he thought Gerry would put up and then Marc said that even if Gerry put up Jas and Amy he ( Marc ) would save Jas and that he ( marc) and Dani would have Jasons back. Marcellus is trying to let everyone think he is pulling for them so they won't target him for the next nominations. since he knows Roddy is going he will vote Roddy out showing Chiara that maybe Dani was lying about him voting her out. He's grasping at straws here because the idea of targeting Dani with Just Chiara's help isn't gonna play. Amy would NEVER play the game with Chiara. So he isn't looking for an alliance with her just yet. He's just smoothing things over until he can figure out how to stay in the game. He's scared! He thought he had it all figured out. He was going to use Roddy to boot them all. This idiot thought he had Lisa and Jasons vote to save Roddy. He now see's he is not in control. I said it last night and I'll say it again... After what I heard come out of his mouth about Dani the other night I will not be trusting anyting this dude says. He is malicious. I hope Dani still targets him next and that he goes very soon.

Here's my thoughts on Marc.. MEGGA LIAR so watch out!! He lied the first day he stepped in that house. The dude is 34 not 29. MEGGA VICIOUS... The rag on Gerry routine and the slam on Tonya and her family is just over the top. Conclusion.... This guy is no better than josh and will do ANYTHING to stay in this game!

Wcv63

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 03:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well ya know...Marc probably didn't mean for his words to come out as pompous but they really do point to his assuming that he will be in the house longer than Chiara, whether she goes this week or not. He may very well be playing an angle for an endgame or he may be setting up his next move against Dani.

Marc is a like a big rubber ball bouncing around erratically. I can't follow his logic and when I can follow it I totally disagree with it!

Krossd

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 03:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I heard the conv. too. I agree withh Meggie's take, it was more about Roddy. He even as much told her he wasn't doing Amy's agenda(therefore not voting her out, (which is to get Chiar out).

Not on the live feeds posting but Marc also said no one seems to learn from past mistakes (in these things).

Let's hope she wants to stay bad enough not to 'go off' like Josh did and NOT mentionn this conv. to Roddy.

C1mag

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 03:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I still think that since he knows that Roddy is going he is re-structuring his position in the house and is feeling them out to see if they would put him up and actually evict him. If he thought Roddy was staying he would be sucking up too the man, but instead he needed to go and see where Chiara stood. He's gonna help evict Roddy but only because he can't save him and he thinks this will make it look like he is in support of her. His paranoia about Gerry and who he would nominate is based on the fact that since he is gonna target Gerry he figures Gerry would target him. Now that Dani knows how he plays the game I will bet you that Marc will be going home very soon no matter how he tries to stay in the game.

C1mag

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 03:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
By the way... Dani isn't buying his routine at all. Lisa asked Dani last night if she fealt better about Marcellus since they had talked to him. Dani replied... I don't know I'll have to see how the vote goes. Then she added, " he could be the Judas of this game" She's not dumb and she ought to thank roddy for blabbing to her because he really did give Marcellus away.

Sassylady

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 03:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Basically Marc doesn't give a flip who goes this week. Marc is moving on to protection mode for next week. I think Dani knew what she was doing prior to the M, L, D convo last night when she mentioned that next week jussssst might be her HOH week.

In other words, she put Marc on notice--mess with this and I will win HOH and put you up next week. That is why he changed his mind to try to protect himself with Dani for one more week. Now he is covering his bases with Chiari where she will not vote him out based out what Roddy said...

Very good move Marc. However, he still is low on my list with the way he treats Gerry.

Ginger1218

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 03:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And when Marc is voted out, he will absolutely freak. When he gets nominated, he will freak. If someone says good morning to him - he will freak.
Are you getting my drift????

Fruitbat

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 05:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ummmmm hummmmmmmm Ginger1218 Indeedy I am.

Ladytex

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 05:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What do you mean, Ginger? Do you think he will freak or something? LOL

C1mag

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 05:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I could be wrong, cause it's so unclear, but I'm thinking she thinks he will freak... Are we right? LOL

Wcv63

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 05:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She's either thinking he'll freak or that he IS a freak. Or perhaps she's using freak in place of that OTHER f word?

C1mag

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 05:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Watch out Jason... Don't bend over cause Marcellus is lookin to freak!!!. :) Sorry I couldn't resist.

Thorntara

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 05:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Dani had Marcellas's support, she lost it today. She started out being anti-social, then went to being a martyr (re dishes), and now she is sitting on the kitchen island, with her feet under her. I find it to be disgusting when HGs have their feet on the food preparation area, and Dani claims it is disgusting when Chia does it, and surely, Marc will be extremely offended.

Mind you, my opinion may be colored by my extreme anger at Dani over the singing issue. She starts singing at the drop of a hat...maybe because she hasn't been through her normal grooming, make-up, dressing routine and does not want to be seen on camera?

BB really needs to get a grip on this whole singing thing! She sang pretty much all the way through the tie-dye thing, so there won't be much usable footage.

Misslibra

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani just sort of found out yesterday that she didn't have Marcel support. She always wondered if Marcel was really in her corner like he said he was. They use to have each other's back, but Marcel is stabbing her in her back instead.

But hey, he has a right to play his game to win. The only problem I have is the information he got about Dani he don't know if it's true or not, but he has reported it to Amy as if it was true, and turned Amy against Dani.

Now I believe he will try to turn Chiara against Dani. I think Chiara will tell Dani what Marcel said if he say anything against her.

I predict in the very near future Dani and Marcel will have a big blow out. Stay tune...