Azriel | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:04 pm     LOL! I feel the same way Whit! They had their chance to get rid of Roddy and wimped out totally! So I say, LONG LIVE KING RODDY and to heck with them all. It ain't Amy's fault. Amy should have been passing Roddy on her way back in. |
Meggieprice | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:05 pm     I can't help but think on reflecting on this week and this day that it really did change the game having Amy come back and for me personally it has been a disappointing change. Amy is young, spoiled, infatuated and out to have fun. She entertained me but I was not sorry to see her leave as she is so needy for attention and she has a drinking problem. She got to leave and come back and pull everything in a different direction. She doesn't care about the game, just about what "I want". It just feels wrong to me. Everything that has happened around it feels wrong too. Oh well. |
Whit4you | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:05 pm     ". Amy should have been passing Roddy on her way back in. " EXACTLY! |
Theo17 | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:06 pm     meh for some strange reason danni is a villin if she breaks her word which she didnt but amy can do it and its ok. i'm with you. i dont get it. I wanted amy to win up till monday. This week i was turned off by her, she is putting her infatuation ahead of the game and being childish in my eyes. And before you all flame me even her buddy marcy said the same things |
Azriel | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:08 pm     Wendo, I don't think Lisa is angry. I think that she saw that Dani was capable of telling two different people two different things while looking very believable to both. When Roddy was talking about it with her by the hammock, it looked to me like Lisa was troubled by it and I think she will be very careful in her alliance with Dani from now on. |
Whit4you | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:09 pm     MissL - are we reading the same board? LOL. I came back today to read thread after thread and post after post of ..she's infatuated..she's spolied.. she's this she's that she's this and that...all anti-Amy now - and my reasons for defending her are stated above. I wondered before she left last time why she seemed so much more liked around here then Jamie ..cause she's like a carbon copy to ME of Jamie... Jamie had endless bashing threads here and yet Amy had maybe a few if that ...and now... Anyhow I've stated all my points above I believe - the Amy bashing is pretty clear I guess for anyone who isn't anti-Rod right now. |
Wendo | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:09 pm     Whit4you said, "Wendo - I totally agree with you Dani did not break her word to Amy - she broke it to Chaira and USED her allies/friends to do so. Which to ME is worse then her having broke her word to Amy." Whit, the point is, Danielle feels no obligation to Chiara in the end because of Chi voting for Lisa's eviction. Dani's made that QUITE clear in her DR entries. Since that time, Danielle didn't trust Chi (in the game). Chiara getting evicted was always planned, she knew that Chi was not trustworthy. Now, had Chi not betrayed Lisa (and lied about it initially) I think one could hold it against Dani. However, Chi showed herself as untrustworthy a long time ago. Dani owed her nothing. |
Meggieprice | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:11 pm     Lilacs- I remember (as being bedridden I have had the feeds on for a full week!) that the first time Amy promised was before she knew Danielle was chaging her mind- and that night in the hot tub Marc and Amy mentioned for the first time wanting Dani out. I was shocked! At the same time I don't expect anyone in the house to keep their word- that is the name of the game! |
Whit4you | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:11 pm     Hopefully Lisa and Jason will see how used they were. Obviously Dani did NOT do this for Jason or she wouldnt have demanded HE take the fall for her.... Lisa has now seen what Dani means when she says "I Have your back' - that means.. I wont vote for you but I'll get you evicted...and you will still owe me in the end cause *I* didn't personally vote for you |
Azriel | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:11 pm     I'm not saying that Dani is a villain for breaking her word...it's a freaking game. What I'm saying is why is it so hard for people to ADMIT that Dani broke her word? |
Tracy | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:12 pm     When they were in the nasty tub HOH comp, Amy said she would listen to Marc. Marc told her everybody wanted Roddy/Chiara up. She said she wanted Roddy to stay. She then toyed with the idea of putting Jason up as a decoy which scared Dani and started the whole cycle of Roddy out one day and Chi out the next (or should I say hour). I think a lot of us who have wanted Rod out for sooooo long felt a little perturbed with Amy. But hey as HOH she can put up whoever she chooses and campaign as hard as she wants. Yeah, I wish she would have handled it differently but I don't hate her at all. I think she's attractive, intelligent (not strategy wise lol), and I love her sense of humor. Can't I criticize her game playing without hating her? I actually like her a lot. |
Misslibra | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:12 pm     Long Live King Roddy until next week. Jason will see to it, (yes I can predict the future before any of you ask) and then maybe Amy will play the game she was put in there to play. And Wendo you and I are watching the same BB. It's funny how we all can watch the same show and come away with totally different opinions. But dagnabit it's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. And if you don't force your opinion down my throat I wont force mines down any of yours. All said with a smile! |
Wcv63 | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:12 pm     Whit I'm confused. Weren't you one of us here on the boards saying that lying and manipulating are part of the GAME and that no one should be surprised or take it personally? Every one is there to win. Dani's first responsibility is to herself and her 2nd is to her alliance. She owes no one else in the house anything. Playing this way may hurt her chances of winning but it doesn't make her unethical in a game where ethics are dropped off at the door. I know they have missed many chances of getting Roddy out. No one is blaming Amy. As a matter of fact many (including myself) feel Dani made a HUGE tactical error in her zero hour about face. Ethics, lying, manipulating...all part of the game and part of each and every single one of the hgs agendas. I guarantee it. As I said before Dani discussed with Lisa and Jason both how she was going to vote PRIOR to going in the DR and AFTER telling Jason 'opposite'. Everyone had the opportunity to discuss and they all knew how the votes were going to fall. The way I look at it, Dani honored every agreement she made. Maybe not the way YOU would have...but she did have Chiara's back (by giving her a vote to stay), make sure Roddy stayed and Chiara went, AND let her alliance in on her vote prior to making it. |
Misslibra | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:13 pm     Whit I am don't know about you! |
Whit4you | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:13 pm     Wendo you have a good point there - something I haven't thought of. So Dani was using her "I Want Rod out" to work another agenda she had.. all part of the game Thanks for clearing that up for me. |
Wendo | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:14 pm     Azriel, I agree completely. And, that's good for Lisa. Dani's been playing agressively, we know that. It very likely will hurt her. Lisa's playing a lot like Jason now, actually. Btw, the line in my prior post should read, "Chiara getting evicted was always planned *eventually*, she knew that Chi was not trustworthy." |
Whit4you | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:16 pm     No Wendo had a good point (though I honestly don't know if Dani has thought of this angle..lol) But Chaira did break their deal by voting out Lisa...and if Dani 'pretended' to still have Chaira's back AFTER Chaira first broke their deal then that's good. Nothing would justify her USING her buds for her agenda as she has though..not under these particular circumstances. |
Wendo | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:16 pm     Misslibra, All good. |
Azriel | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:18 pm     MissL, keep on dreaming Roddy can unpack and get comfie for awhile. Dani is out to get Marcellas. Look for an Amy(operation revolving door)/Marcellas or a Roddy/Marcellas nomination with Marc to get the boot. |
Wendo | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:20 pm     Whit4you said, "Lisa has now seen what Dani means when she says "I Have your back' - that means.. I wont vote for you but I'll get you evicted...and you will still owe me in the end cause *I* didn't personally vote for you." But Whit, Lisa knows that Dani never meant this to Chi because of how Chi voted out Lisa. Lisa may be questioning things, but she knows that Dani lost all trust in Chi after her evict Lisa vote. |
Whit4you | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:23 pm     Did Chaira ever promise Dani to not evict Lisa though?? From what *I* remember Dani was the one who instigated the convo's and made the promises... don't recall Chaira ever promising her not to vote out Lisa (but I might have missed that) |
Wendo | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:23 pm     Azriel said, "What I'm saying is why is it so hard for people to ADMIT that Dani broke her word?" How did Dani break her word? Really, explain it to me 'cause I just don't see it. She kept her word to Amy, three votes to evict Chi. She kept her word to Chi that she would vote to keep her. But, as far as keeping her word to get votes to keep Chi, she never gave that to Chi. And she wouldn't after Chi voted for Lisa's eviction. In Dani's eyes, Chiara was not trustworthy. Period. She feels no obligation to her because she felt that if push came to shove, Chi would vote her out. She did it to Lisa, why would she think Chi wouldn't do it to her??? |
Whit4you | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:25 pm     Deals are deals to me - to a certain extent - breaking deals can be ethically ok and they can be ethically not ok. Breaking a deal in this game to me is ok - but USING your allies to the extent Dani did is NOT ethically ok to me. But it's your own ethicsa that matter and if you can live with them... and if Dani can live with doing what she did to Jason and LIsa for the betterment of her kids future or whatever her reasons...then that's up to her.. not me. If that's the worst thing she's ever done in her life then she's doing better then most of us I'd guess. |
Misslibra | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:26 pm     AZ LOL Whitsaid> said she's infatuated..she's spolied... Well she is spoiled and infatuated. And saying that isn't bashing. Saying that is commenting on her behavior. Now if people were calling her all kinds of names, that would be bashing. |
Wendo | Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:27 pm     Tracy said, "Can't I criticize her game playing without hating her? I actually like her a lot." Excellent point Tracy and worth reiterating. Thanks. |