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Archive through August 25, 2002
Meggieprice | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 06:37 pm     Got to disagree with you Keiff- having the man who knows how to psychologically manipulate everyone out will make everyone safer. Gerry would be in Jay's corner for good after a move like that. I am not convinced that Roddy is on anyone's side. |
Keiffer | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 06:41 pm     And Gerry has not said to both Jason Danny, and who knows who else that they are safe next week if he is still there? Sorry, but I do think that right now Jason is the only person 100% safe from a Roddy nomminations, and who knows what Gerry would do. You forget that Gerry is the prison bitc*, and has made agreements with everyone I think for saftey. As for Roddy talking to Lisa and feeling out her vote, and talking about the pluses and minuses of voting out which person this week.... what is supposed to do now that every one from his alliance is gone? Just roll over and wait for his time to go? Should he not be allowed to try and get something going? He was never brought in on the decision to evict Gerry this week by Danny lisa or Jason. How is supposed to know that is what they want to do if they never let him on the decision? |
Mystery | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 06:43 pm     I'm really tired of seeing Danielle's name spelled "Danny." From now on I'm going to spell Roddy "Roddi." This is the only power I have over the house and I'm using it! |
Meggieprice | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 06:50 pm     But Keif, Gerry's deals have been specific to each week.An action for an action.A deal was proposed and he accepted, and kept the deal. He hasn't told everyone you and me" the way Roddi has (that's for you Mystery!). Brought in on the decision? Say what? Dani and Lisa aren't bringing him in on anything.(Go Dani Go Lisa!) And he should be thanking the heavens it happened because he was this close to being up himself. |
Keiffer | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 06:56 pm     My only point to the part about not being brought in on the decision is this. He does not know that the other voters have all been told what the vote is supposed to be. In his mind right now it isnt manipulationg to talk about the votes. He doesnt know that Lisa has already been told what to do by Danny. That makes it perfectly alright to talk to another voter about what each other thinks is the best move. You guys keep thinking that Roddy has told both Jason and Marcy that he wants to go with them to the last two, when in fact he never did do that. You take him talking about covering a persons back as an agreement for each other to the final two. Add to that how many people right now think that Danny is taking them to the final two? |
Mystery | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 06:57 pm     Thanks Meggie! I say, if "i" was good enough for Gandhi, it's good enough for Roddi. (Feeling more empowered already!) |
Meggieprice | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 07:21 pm     Kief- do you have the live feeds? I sometimes think we are not possibly watching the same stuff.I saw his conversation with Marc in the hot tub myself. I know, I know, you have a near obsession with proving Rodi didn't lie, LOL, but don't let it cloud your vision. Besides- he admitted to Lisa last night that he does! Noone has told anyone how to vote this time. Lisa is voting Gerry out because he nominated her and Eric. No other vote makes sense for her. Marc is obviously voting Gerry out. Rodi is sounding like he'll vote Amy out (Isn't that nice of him after she saved him?) and actually I don't think I have heard anything telling us for sure how Dani will vote. If she votes Amy out that puts it to Jason and I would at least like him to be put in that position so he can do some spine strengthening exercises. |
Mystery | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 07:22 pm     Oh, "Rodi," that's even better. |
Meggieprice | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 07:24 pm     I knew you would like that Mystery! While we are on the subject Keif, Rodi told Jason he has looked out for him time after time in this game. However,he suggested that Amy nominate Jason. Explain that to me. |
Dutchlizzy | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 07:45 pm     Jason may be brilliant. If he nominated Roddy and Amy in the first place, Gerry could have won the veto and saved Roddy. Roddy would then come after Jason hard. So Jason nominates Gerry and Amy, and prays hard to win the POV. He said as he placed Roddy's key in the box "He's gonna win the game." He knew that would happen if he didn't get Roddy out this week. But winning the POV allows him to veto out either Roddy or Amy, and put up Roddy instead. This way, no one else, like Gerry, could save Roddy. There's only 1 POV. If Jason puts Roddy up now, there is no saving him. Of course Roddy will never win HOH. There's no one left for him to nominate. If Jason saves Gerry, leaving Amy up against Roddy, Roddy will go and Jason will lose Roddy's vote if Jason makes it to the final 2. If he saves Amy and puts Roddy up against Gerry, he "let's the house decide" who will go, potentially saving Roddy's, Gerry's, AND Amy's vote for the end. If this was his intention all along, it's brilliant! |
Dutchlizzy | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 07:47 pm     Jason may be brilliant. If he nominated Roddy and Amy in the first place, Gerry could have won the veto and saved Roddy. Roddy would then come after Jason hard. So Jason nominates Gerry and Amy, and prays hard to win the POV. He said as he placed Roddy's key in the box "He's gonna win the game." He knew that would happen if he didn't get Roddy out this week. But winning the POV allows him to veto out either Roddy or Amy, and put up Roddy instead. This way, no one else, like Gerry, could save Roddy. There's only 1 POV. If Jason puts Roddy up now, there is no saving him. Of course Roddy will never win HOH. There's no one left for him to nominate. If Jason saves Gerry, leaving Amy up against Roddy, Roddy will go and Jason will lose Roddy's vote if Jason makes it to the final 2. If he saves Amy and puts Roddy up against Gerry, he "let's the house decide" who will go, potentially saving Roddy's, Gerry's, AND Amy's vote for the end. If this was his intention all along, it's brilliant! |
Meggieprice | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 07:49 pm     Big if, Dutchlizzy, because it assumes Jason used strategy. His DR entry last night was evidence to me that he lost his game. Don't get me wrong, I want you to be correct! For one thing it would make the game even more exciting...wait, did I really just ask for that? I don't think I can take much more- last week almost brought me to a collapse! |
Keiffer | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 07:53 pm     Meggie... all I know for 100% of the Roody Marcy talk is what they showed on TV.... too many of these talks occur when it is between 3-5 AM my time. If I could only get rid of this dang 8-5 job I have to go to every day. I will say though that after watching hours of live feeds and watching Roddy talk a great deal that he always leaves himself an out in case he needs it later. Everything he says is very calculated so that in a later conversation he cna show that what he said is backed up by his actions. He has convinced himself you can only win the game this year by being honest with people because people let Will win last year because he was upfront about his backstabbing. As for everyone getting their own votes this week I would say that based on Jason, Danny, and Amy's conversation before the nomminations about how safe AMy would be IF she got put up in my mind that is vote rigging. That means that since Lisa is now Danny's lap dog Danny has told her the way the house is voting... Roddy does not know right now that Lisa is in Danny's hip packet so in his mind talking to her about votes is still supposed to be alright. |
Keiffer | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 07:59 pm     One other thought about saving Amy or Gerry and putting Roddy up. He has now shown that he is willing to put up both Amy and Gerry if given the chance. No matter what promise he gets from this point on he needs one of the two to go this week. If both stay then there are two people that have been put up by him and they will remember that. Lisa got away with it because it was the first week. This late in the game you do not want 2-6 people KNOWING that if you get the chance then they are up again. |
Meggieprice | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 08:18 pm     Keiff I think everyone in there now has to know any one of the others might put them up, either by volition or because they have no choice... I think Roddy does leave himself outs but he is a master at making the other person think he hasn't. For me that is the worst kind of dishonesty. The hot tub was more definitive than that and I was shocked at the new alliance. I am sure that when Marc turned the tide with Amy at 5am the morning of voting he was acting from that alliance. Amy went to Dani because Marc told her to. Just wondering though, did you hear Rodi tell Lisa he lied? I was thinking about you. LOL. |
Meggieprice | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 08:26 pm     Also, being able to watch the feeds all the time while bedridden is a questionably good thing! LOL... but for everyone's sake I wish they would give these guys a curfew- this early am stuff is rediculous. |
Wendo | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 08:27 pm     Roddy's promise to Jason to protect him was an empty promise. He has no intention of EVER winning HOH at this point in the game. In his mind, he has many favors to collect. I said in another thread that Roddy broke Jason during their talk in the HOH room. A person doesn't sob and cry like that if they haven't been broken. What's sad about it, is Jason knew he had been broken. I don't expect him to use the PoV, and if he did, I'd be shocked. |
Keiffer | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 08:27 pm     Meggie... did he say that he lies to HG's or did he say he lies to the producers in the DR? For sure I think that those tow are very different things. |
Sybilbb3oracle | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 08:57 pm     Lord, we pray for our brother Jason who is skirting hell-fire with a pagan that has caused the demise of that evil spirits closests allies, Tonya, Eric, Josh, and Chiara. We ask for guidance to Jason to realize that an alliance with the pagan will cause his certain demise. We ask that you guide Jason to realize that your sign of the V is for him to overcome and be victorious over his earlier defeat and oust the pagan from the brothers house. We also ask that you guide all of us observers into realizing that it is standard operating procedure to bad-mouth the next evictee (as Marcellas is doing) in order to ease their passing in the hearts of the remaining brethern. |
Mystery | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:12 pm     Meggie, I'm sorry to hear that you're bedridden. If Jason uses the POV to nominate Rodi I'll spend a whole evening reading the Bible myself instead of these boards! |
Mrs_Taz | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:03 pm     It would almost be better if J used the veto to save Gerry and put up Marc. M and A would not vote to evict Roddy so why not get rid of one of them. Then let Gerry get HOH, you know with the way Gerry plays more than likely he would nominate Roddy or make it as part of the deal to for the veto that he put him up as one of the noms. Then Gerry is the one responsible for putting Roddy up and not J or Dani. Whoever stays from M & A would not put up Roddy and I don't think Lisa would try for HOH either. Roddy still has too many people he can sway in the house if things stay the way they are. |
Annitar | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:18 pm     I'm sorry I do not believe that Jason will have the nerve to use POV! Sorry, but he is too weak of a player at this point. To think that this was his grand plan all along is too funny. The boy was so tormented about hurting Roddy's feelings he had to go throw up before nominations. No way he's found the courage to play the game all of a sudden. If he does use it... I'm with Mystery I'll read my bible instead of this boards tomorrow night! |
Jazzcat | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 11:03 pm     i think i am getting just tooo involved! i felt like throwing up when i heard jay nominated ger and amy after watching rodman make his last ditch effort(and succeed)at manipulating jays feelings. after seeing saturdays show and watching jay in dr, it felt like defeat. all i am hoping for is after a good nights sleep,and talking to dani, that he would come to his senses and use pov to put rod up. how can he believe that roddy is his REAL friend and is looking out for him??? i am sick, sick, sad |
Spunky | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 11:05 pm     Is there any indication that he'll use the POV?? |
Meggieprice | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 11:11 pm     Kieffer he said he lies in the game. But you have me giggling again always splitting hairs and scrambling to somehow turn Rodi's lies into something else. Why does it matter so much to you to have him not lie? He lies, Kief, he lies! They all lie. I just watched the show from last night again with my husband , who missed it, and he thinks Jason will use the veto because he seemed so clearly to have realised that he nominated the wrong person. I think that he might have if only Dani had had the guts to go to him and tell him her true feelings about what he had done. But she didn't , and I think Jason has been lulled into thinking it's all ok again, just happy to have a seemingly happy house. Because, Wendo, you are so right. The man who called Rodi in to HOH was gone when Rodi left. He was broken, and I don't think he'll ever be in the game again. Thanks Mystery, I'm getting better. My husband is worried that BB# is delaying my healing cause I get so worked up all the time! LOL-he knows there is nothing he can do... |
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