So, Dani Has Landed On Her Feet!
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So, Dani Has Landed On Her Feet!
What555456 | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 09:28 am     With a little help from Lisa as her "spotter", Dani seems to have landed on her feet and gotten her head screwed back on straight. If she is smart, she has learned a lot from the past couple of days and will use her new knowledge to focus her efforts in the future. |
Draco | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 09:29 am     I don't understand??? |
Ladytex | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 09:31 am     We'll see after the eviction on Thursday. If there is one thing I can depend on with these people is that they change their minds probably more frequently than they change their underwear ... LOL |
What555456 | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 09:32 am     Draco, I posted this on another thread. I hope, if I am misreading the current state of affairs, someone will correct me. ---------- It appears that overnight (while we normal people were sleeping! <g>), Dani, Lisa and Marcellus agreed to oust Roddy. The assumption is that Jason will go along with them -- probably a safe assumption. It also appears that it was decided that Dani, Lisa and Marcellus are going to jointly discuss this with Amy so that she is not blindsided by the vote. I would not be surprised if they decided to try to bring Gerry in on this as well; but they really do not need to. But, we'll have to see. If this is all true, I do not trust Marcellus -- as I said in an earlier post on this thread. He may stick to what he has said. But he is such an emotion driven individual, I can see him running off to Roddy to fill him in on the entire thing. What Roddy would/will do when he finds out what is up, --and I suspect he will figure it out today-- I don't know. He can't cause another blow up like he did with Josh. That would be too obvious. I doubt he can pull Lisa and Jason from Dani. If Marcellus does break the trust he has with Dani and Lisa again, they may likely just decide he is out next week, knowing that Chiara will be on their side because they saved her. Gerry probably would be too. I look for Roddy out this week, Chiara and Marcellus up next week -- with Chiara gone, unless Marcellus really screws things for himself, which is VERY possible. |
Draco | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 09:35 am     Thanks! That makes sense. I wonder what Marc will do since he has flipflopped a couple of times. Do you have any idea what Gerry has revealed about his vote? Danielle is too confident for me. Although I want Roddy to go, I think if he does she will definitely feel like a puppeteer. |
Gina8642 | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 09:39 am     Gerry promised Amy he'd vote Chiara out. I haven't heard him say any different. |
Jaysgal | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 09:41 am     Why do you guys always speak as though Danielle, Lisa or Jason are expert HOH winners? I would think that if Chiara stayed, Gerry, Marcellas, Lisa and Chiara have a much better chance of winning the competition than do the rest. I would almost bet that Gerry will be the next HOH. He seems to time his wins. If he does, most likely Lisa and Jason or Lisa and Amy will be up. And I doubt that Danielle will be able to win POV. |
Wcv63 | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 09:43 am     This was a tough one allright. They had to work this one every day, every minute, every second. I really admire Dani's focus and they way she can access and change her strategy at a moment's notice. For a while there I was concerned that she had lost her mental edge. The thing I find MOST admirable about Dani is her protectivness when it comes to Jason. That shows me that her alliance with him is stable and solid as a rock. I'm very impressed with the way that Dani and Jason each have their own "jobs" within the alliance. Their alliance is a finely choreographed ballet. Strength and skill balanced with gentleness and subtlity. Bravo! |
Guiltyviewer | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 09:51 am     WCV63, promise I'm not stalking you on the threads! Just wanted to say Bravo to you , too for an insightful post. Couldn't agree with you more and couldn't have stated the case as well. Keeping my fingers crossed for either Jason (Love that boy!) or Dani to take it all to the bank! Oh yeah---laissez les bon temps roule! |
Maris | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 09:52 am     Dani is not all that protective about Jason, she was pretty willing to talk about putting him up next week. Dani is protective of Dani and that is it. She will lie, cheat do what she has to and that is fine because this is a game. What I dont like is that she starts this God stuff and says anyone who is as sneaky as she is somehow is the devils spawn and is evil. I am so disgusted with these people that go on about religion. I would even rather see Gerry win over Dani and that is saying a lot. |
Sandy | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 09:53 am     Jaysgal, I personally don't think Dani (and maybe Jason too) WANTS to win HOH. She keeps saying she has to win, but never does. Being HOH puts the focus on you and she doesn't want that. Better to stay behind the scenes and let other people do her dirty work. Just my opinion. |
Jaysgal | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 09:59 am     I agree with you, Maris. She was not trying to protect Jason. She's self-interested. There's nothing wrong with that, for I believe that it is human nature and works out at the end. The reason she objected to Amy putting up Jason was because she wanted a tempting opportunity to have Roddy up there. Had it not been the case, she would have no problem with Jason up there because she knew most people would evict Chiara anyway. |
Kitty54 | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:02 am     No matter what you think about Dani, she has played this game! The girl deserves the money. |
Kathyb | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:07 am     I totally disagree that Danielle has no loyalty to Jason. Their alliance has served them both well and I do think Danielle wants she and Jason to be the final 2. If she said she was willing to put up Jason, I think it was only game-playing. They have been able to keep their deal a secret from everyone so far. I think that's quite a feat. We'll see, but I'd be very surprised if Danielle ever turns on her staunchest ally. |
Minnietlm63 | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:13 am     "I would even rather see Gerry win over Dani and that is saying a lot." OMG Maris! Did you actually say this???? (wipes eyes) I can't believe what I just read! LOL |
Jagger | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:16 am     I agree Danny is looking out for herself, but she still wants Jason around, he is a vote for what ever way she wants him to vote. I think if it gets down to the final 3 and Danny has her choice of who she wants to go up against it will not be Jason, she will drop him like a hot potato in seconds flat. As for the hoh, so far neither Danny or Jason have wanted to win it, they have been letting others win it and making the choice of who to put up. Depending on who goes this week will be a big factor in either of them going for hoh. I don't think Danny will try for it at all, but I think she will tell Jason to go for it, actually yesterday she did tell Jason he needed to win it or he would be the next one gone. Danny still feels she is safe from being nominated, and if nominated she thinks she has the backing to keep her in the house so she won't try for hoh. |
Kenilworth | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:59 am     Who's a "competitor"? Week HOH Veto ---- ---- ----- 1 Lisa* Gerry 2 Marcellus Danielle 3 Roddy Eric 4 Gerry Chiara 5 Chaira Lisa 6 Amy Gerry *Seemed like an odd contest- like BB2's first one In any case the victory count is: - Gerry (3!) - Lisa (2) - Chiara (2) - Marcellus (1) - Amy (1) - Danielle (1) - Roddy (1) - Evicted Hamster (1) - Jason (0)- "Throwing them?" Gerry's game show history may be serving him well just like Jason's BB2 internet surfing |
Wcv63 | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 11:04 am     Kenilworth...I have a brain cloud (yes it's a real ailment, you have my word ) and can't for the life of me make out what it is that you are saying. Can you please help? |
Fabnsab | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 11:11 am     I disagree with those who say Dani has no loyalty to Jason. Every week in the DR when she says "4 down,6 to go" she tells us that she truly want Jason with her in the end. She always counts down but never adds his number. They are a team in her eyes and she will take him to the end. I believe it. |
Crazydog | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 11:12 am     Kenilworth, based on this post and the final scenario post, are you a statistician? Are you saying that Gerry is the best competitor? They gave him that first veto competition. They all seem equally matched, there's not much difference to me between 2 wins and 1 win. |
Kenilworth | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 11:15 am     Wcv63- Well, people are talking about who's likely to win HOH etc. A lot of "I wish", "I hope", "I like", "I hate" gets into the mix. Seems like the best way to really guess is to look at past history. As a Jason fan, I don't have much to hold onto! I tried to line up the titles with my chart, but basically in Week 1, Lisa won HOH and Gerry won Veto. So if you treat a HOH victory and a Veto victory as equal victories, you realize that Gerry has won (something) three times, Lisa has won twice, etc. What throws a wrench in counting up victories is the idea (often discussed in The Clubhouse and the DR) that people are throwing contests. Looking at the tote board, it looks like Jason is the only one who has never won anything- except "America's Choice". Everybody else is at least willing to step up once in front of the others. Once again, sorry for the confusion. |
Kenilworth | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 11:23 am     Crazydog- Did they give it to Gerry? It's what they SAID, but I didn't see the entire contest--maybe a live-feed viewer did. Let's face it-- they'd begrudge him a burp... and do! Not a statistician-- just trying to nail down what may happen... With the crazy shifting of alliances, it's the only safe port in a storm... Regards... |
Wcv63 | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 11:25 am     Doh! <slaps forehead> It make perfect sense now. I didn't read the first line as column headers. Once that was explained it totally cleared up the mystery for me. As a fellow Jason fan I think we just need to assume that Jason is laying low and will win HOH when it is necessary.  |
Krossd | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 11:36 am     and there may be times that POV was won by default, when someone else 'throws' it.... so mayabe a couple of those were not really gone after... but, I do think that is part of the strategy. If Jason wins, or gets close to winning this week, we will know if he tried to get it. I sure hope Dani doesn't start talking too early today.... don't give them enough time to switch again... and keep around Marc so Roddy can't get to him.... I posted elsewhere yesterday that I had hoped Lisa would tell Dani what was really happening... she (L)had to have figured out without Ja and Dann, she'd be alone.... and like her, I'd rather be with them than with Marc and Amy = wishy washy on choices and too emotional. Way to go Lisa and Dani! Now sit back a bit today and just observe, prettty please! |
Moedog | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 11:38 am     When Roddy walks out the door on Thursday, I'll believe that Dani has landed on her feet again. Since she doesn't figure into my winner wish list, though, I hope she screws up royally (soon) in her manipulations and the others take a long, hard look at taking her to the end. They want to win just like she does. She'll be running out of people to demonize before too long (that really irks me too, Maris). Question... There's a LFP from 1:09 am that says, "Mar and rod handshake." Anyone know what that was about? |
Meggieprice | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 12:03 pm     This agreement to tell Amy together- please tell me they plan to do that AFTER they vote! Or we'll be in for another roller coaster of a day... |
Jagger | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 12:17 pm     So far almost every challenge for hoh and veto has been given up by certain people. I have heard Danny, Jason, Eric, Josh, and Roddy say they didn't want to win hoh and veto and go out there and purposly loose. I would say these people are waiting for others to do their work for them, this week I think either Roddy/Chi which ever one stays in the house and Jason will both be trying to win. Jason is afaird he will be nominated other wise. Danny will still not try to win. |
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