Wendo | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 04:51 pm     Efilon, Dani doesn't use Jason's friendship to manipulate him. That, in my mind, is the biggest difference between Roddy and Dani. Roddy insinuates to all the players that he will withdraw his friendship and loyalty if they betray him. It sux bigtime to make people feel that you would withdraw your "love" if you don't fall in line. And THAT is what I don't like about Roddy. |
Loppes | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 04:52 pm     Wendo, Not true, Dani told Marcellas its he and her to the end. Lon |
Curlyq | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 04:52 pm     C1, you hit it right on the head. Jason is supposed to be Danielle's ally, and that's why her discussions with him should carry more weight than Roddy's arguments. Jason had a 3-week agreement with Roddy, but he has a permanent one with Danielle. If I were her I would be asking him to just dissolve the partnership because it doesn't seem to be worth much anyway. Remember when they first had a chance to get rid of Roddy but couldn't because they needed his vote and he went and promised it to Roddy? What's the point in having an ally if he keeps compromising your strategy? |
Wendo | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 04:53 pm     Skeldragon, I'm like you. Should Jason not follow through, I'm done with the feeds. I see no point in watching. For me, I'll watch the tv show, but that's it. And I doubt I'll get any enjoyment out of it. |
Annitar | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 04:54 pm     I agree Dani has never "used" her friendship with Jason! I believe she is honestly loyal to him. She has been since the beginning! If Jason does see that then he deserves to lose! |
Theo17 | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 04:57 pm     me too if roddy isnt nominated tonight i stop following this board most likely and just watch the tv show sometimes. I cant satnd to see this devilguilt good people in to doing what he wants week afyer week. Bob Kerry once said bill clinton is an exceptionally good liar. Kerry needs to meet roddy |
Beagle | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 04:57 pm     I have to be at work in just a few minutes... so, without my going to the live feeds, or reading this extensive post: who is Jason leaning towards for nomination? Thanks in advance!
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Annitar | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 04:57 pm     You have to look at Dani's DR entries! She has never once betrayed Jason! No matter what she may have said to anyone while "playing the game" with them. The DR entries show the person's true feelings! And WTF??!?!? Why are there FOUR cameras on Roddy & Gerry talking about how animals run?????? THese two scare me! |
C1mag | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 04:58 pm     First of all understand that Dani would take Jason to the finals. He is the only one she has made a final 2 deal with. Case closed on that issue. She has been very careful when she tells lisa about an end deal. She always says to her that they will go to final 3. She said the same to Marcellus. Never any mention of a final 2. What sickens me is that I think the reason Jason is torn is because Roddy made him a finals deal. So he doesn't see him as a threat to himself any longer in the game. He does see Gerry as a threat to nominate him should he remain and get hoh next week. Jason knows that if Gerry stays he will nominate him. Roddy promised he wouldn't. So does jason protect Dani or does he protect himself? If he even puts up Roddy he knows Dani expects him to evict Roddy. Thats why he is torn. The mistake that was made was there should have been a deal made with Gerry. If you don't nominate him this week he doesn't nominate you next week if he gets hoh. Just a one week deal with the man like they all do. It's that simple. You really shouldn't rely on the best player as a ticket to the finals. He would make you look like a fool in the finals. Now about Roddy reminding them how incredibly cool he is. Thats the cult figure syndrome. Say it! Believe it! and chant it with charisma. It's an intense mind game you can play when you are locked away. You could never compare this guy to Will. Will got very lucky. Someone mentioned how Nicole would have reacted to this guy. She would have been one of his faithful to the end. She was a headcase and every headcase in the game this year has been his strongest follower. He would have had her number right from the beginning. He would have seen a control freak starving for affection. Will was rude. Roddy is charming and trys to come across as smart. Nicole would have been another Roddy casualty. |
Rissa | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 04:58 pm     WOW!!!!!! I post in this little teeny thread and head out to pick up my kids. Come back less than an hour later to find over 400 messages! RFLOL! Had to zip over to the live feeds and catch up. I am terrible with any sort of confrontation and facing down Roddy would be giving me a major panic attack right about now. LOL Jason seems to be holding his own, hope he can keep it up!!! BTW, am I the only one who finds it annoying that Roddy keeps referring to Jason as "the kid"? |
Curlyq | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 05:00 pm     Rissa, I find that annoying too, and even more so when I heard him call Marcellas "kid". Marcellas is older than him. Oh, and let's not forget "knucklehead". |
Skeldragon | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 05:01 pm     C1, you're so right...Nicole would have followed this guy like a lamb to the slaughter. What I really would have liked to see was Roddy vs. Will. The master manipulator against the master liar. Now, that would have been a game! |
Abby | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 05:01 pm     To take Jason to the End with them may be cutting their own throats, Jason is the Angel and well like by all the HG. Think..HGs Vote. you want those votes stacked in your favor to win the BIG PRIZE, you would take a person that is not so well stacked in that area. The scenario Nicole used last year taking Will. BUT it backfired..that is my point. take someone that is lower on the pole with you and you can run to the bank with the half mil. I am almost sure that the Titans had thought of this...they will not take Jason to the end. |
C1mag | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 05:02 pm     Curly, Roddy thinks Marc is 29. None of them know that Marc is really 34. |
Skeldragon | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 05:02 pm     Oh,and Beagle? Who knows...not us, that's for sure. It's just not lookin' good for Gerry and Amy right now, that's the only thing I'm sure of. |
Jan | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 05:02 pm     beagle he was going to nom Roddy and Amy till he talked to Roddy. The master manipulator did his thing again. Now it looks like he will nom Gerry and amy with gerry to go. |
Theo17 | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 05:03 pm     gerry will nominate marcy and amy. that was his big shocker statement from last week. for some reason amy and gerry really want the other gone yesterday |
Curlyq | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 05:03 pm     I was the one who wanted to see Nicole with Roddy. I don't know you guys...Lisa seems pretty emotionally needy but she has been able to see through Roddy's mind games. I think Nicole would've been coming after him with the chef's knife. |
Maris | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 05:04 pm     It will come down to who is the most convincing Dani or Roddy. If Dani convinces him it will be a Roddy vs Gerry nomination, if Roddy convinced him it will be a Gerry vs Amy nomination. |
Max | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 05:04 pm     Come on, Jason! Be strong. Put up RODDY!!!! |
Wendo | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 05:04 pm     Avery, I disagree. I don't think Roddy has any intention of taking Jason to the final. He's told it to everybody, so why should we believe he'll only honor Jason? Please. Roddy wants to win this game and HE KNOWS he will have a difficult time winning against Jason. I do believe he won't put Jason up, he'll just let someone else do it. That's his MO and style. That way, he comes out smelling all nice and clean. Keeping Roddy does NOT help Jason at all. His staunch ally all along has been Dani. Not Roddy. Jason is toast if he keeps Roddy. Let's not forget his conversation with Amy in the HOH room. He repeatedly told Amy about Jason and how untrustworthy he was. If Amy gets HOH again, that will be in her mind. And, gee, who do you think she'll be more inclined to put up? That's right Jason. Roddy has no loyalty to anyone but Roddy. It's abundantely clear. That he can tell everyone in that house "you and me to the end" is as clear as crystal. And, if Roddy stays, I see Roddy taking Gerry. He knows how people feel about him in the house, esp. Marcellas. He's got his entire alliance on the jury, Josh, Eric, Chi, and maybe Tonya. Amy loves the man. Marcellas loves the man's package and hates Gerry. If Roddy is one of the final two, Roddy wins this game. Plain and simple. |
Theo17 | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 05:04 pm     nicole was dumb as wood. will played her so much. roddy wouldnt take jason to the end. he wants somebody nobody likes at the end. Hint he thinks he is also an alpha male |
Bbrules4ever | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 05:05 pm     oh my god. or mabey i should say "oh my rod". hand roddy the half mil right now. if its true jason has kept roddy- Jason has failed.
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Jan | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 05:05 pm     rissa nope he did not hold his own. The master worked his magic and is saved once again. |
C1mag | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 05:06 pm     Abby I disagree. If it were Roddy and Jason they would give it to Roddy because of this very moment. Roddy outplayed the angel who swore he knew everything about this game including how to play dirty and get the better players out. If Roddy gets Jason to protect him Jason the angel that thought he knew how to play the game becomes his b#tch! Money goes too Roddy easily. The end vote is never popularity, and don't forget the final 2 get to give a speech before they vote. Roddy will throw out everything on the table about how weak Jason was and how strong he was. He will convince them that he EARNED his way by playing it hard. He will point out that Jason took the easy road to the finals. |