Keiffer | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:34 pm     You know in the Amy and Gerry talk right now Gerry was just saying if he was there next week and got HoH he knows what he would do, and that it would be tough. Seems to me the only tough nommination right now is putting up anyone besides Roddy. I would love to know what Gerry would do if he stayed... I am thinking maybe a Jason/Danny nommination. Has Gerry figured out the big secret of the house? |
C1mag | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:34 pm     Here's a question...If she gets Roddy booted who else does she go after? She hasn't mentioned one other person that needs to go as a threat. What is she going to do? Stay off of hoh and let them all peck off each other? She is doomed if she does that. She really isn't looking at the bigger picture. |
Seamonkey | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:36 pm     I'll believe Dani has backed off after Thursday.. |
Wendo | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:39 pm     Bmh, see Wc's post. Dani backed off once Lisa explained why it could be a bad idea. Dani does know when to sit back when told. She does get pumped, excited and stressed though. Likely her downfall. And, I agree, she is RODDY OBSESSED! |
Groucho | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:40 pm     C1, last night D/L/M were plotting the eviction order. It was Gerry this week, then Roddy, then Amy. Marc actually suggested that Amy needed to go before Roddy (which made me sad), but D and L convinced him it's Roddy first. |
Keiffer | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:42 pm     Another point for us to aggree on C1mag???? This is crazy! But I see your point. She has set Roddy up as the devil for three weeks now. Her whole mission has been single minded with everyone she talks to. She has talked to Marcy, Jason, and Lisa about how this has to be done, and talked to them about how she has all their backs, all in attempt to get Rody out. Has she used too much political capital on this one thing? Who does she make the vilian if Gerry and Roddy are bothe gone in the next week and a half? |
Keiffer | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:44 pm     Groucho that actually happened? There you go, it shows again Danny being short sighted. Doesnt she see that nothing is garunteed and that if she leaves Amy and Marcy together two more weeks, and it becomes her, Lisa, Marcy, Amy and Jason a for sure tow person vote like Marcy and Amy would be a pretty strong force. IF Marcy actually volunteered that she should jump at it. |
Secretsmile | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:46 pm     Dani has stated her preferred order of evictions, Gerry, Amy, Marcellas, Lisa, then to win over Jason. |
C1mag | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:47 pm     Grouch I heard that conv and when he mentioned Amy going both Lisa and Dani sorta freaked and then he said, "Don't worry ladies Roddy is going first" So I was pretty confident he would put up Roddy if he gets hoh because he promised it too lisa as well. I just think that "IF" Dani gets her wish and Roddy is gone that her worrys are far from over. She has no other target left and she is a sitting duck with the title, "Control Freak" hanging over her head. This should not have been her game plan. |
Wcv63 | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:50 pm     Keiffer you're the one being short sighted. Roddy's abilities to lure people into his strategies is far more dangerous than an Amy/Marc alliance. Amy doesn't play the game well enough to be considered a threat. Plus Amy has stated that she does NOT want to win another HOH. |
Keiffer | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:52 pm     But now that the numbers are getting so small one vote means more than ever, and Roddy can only garuntee his own vote at thispoint with no alliance. Amy and Marcy reperesent two votes and that becomes pretty tough to beat no matter how much talking happens. |
Secretsmile | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:53 pm     oopss, sorry Grouch, you already said that, and didn't forget Roddy like I did. Anyone else up for a total BB Meltdown? Amy wins HOH and noms Dani and Roddy. (ok, I know it's an evil thought, but.."WHAT GOOD TV!) |
C1mag | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:53 pm     It sorta makes you see why Jason would back off doing her bidding. Perhaps the kid saw the bigger picture. With Roddy still in the game at this point you can always divert the target back too him. It's a gamble that can work if you make no promises to keep him safe once you see that he must go. When you've got someone like Dani freaking out over the fact that he is still there it makes it much harder. You almost want to yell at her and say, "calm down" wait it out and see what happens. You're not out of this game yet. I'm still up in the air about whether Jason made the best choice but I see perhaps why he did this. His problem is telling too much too Roddy and making promises too him. Dani just needs too realax and give it a rest on the, "Roddy is the devil" comments. |
C1mag | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:57 pm     Secret I would love that nomination because Roddy would go and Dan would stay. Jason would be FORCED to evict Roddy based on his promise to Dani that if he, Dani, and Roddy were the final 3 he would pick her to go with him to the finals. The only way too achieve that is too boot Roddy. Lisa would also evict Roddy. The big problem would be Dani and how she responded to a nomination. That is her biggest weakness. She gets all freaked out! Pov could make her get booted if Amy vetos Roddy out. Marc would leave the nom's as they are and so would Jason and Lisa. I'd still love to see that one unfold so we could move on in this game and see what happens. Marcellus calls this the clash of the titans between those two. He's right! Only I think Dani is much more freaked about Roddy than he is about her. |
Keiffer | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:58 pm     C1mag anothe good point. Roddy at this point has become the Gerry or Josh, in that people are thinking that since everyone wants him out he is alright to leave for a week because the next HoH will put him up. That still gets Roddy out, and he didn't have to do it. Sure it is a risk because Roddy might win HoH, but he hasn't come close to winning it except the week he won it. |
Secretsmile | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 07:05 pm     YIPEE, I was afraid I'd get booted outta here forever! I just would like to see if she handled it as well as she preaches to other's. I really don't prefer one over the other, but she's been very verbal about telling Amy to suck it up and take the nomination, I'd like to see the tables turned even if she was promised she wouldn't go out. |
Maris | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 07:06 pm     Gerry making his pitch to Roddy now to stay in the game. He will not nominate Roddy for eviction. Says he wont nominate Jason too petty. Gerry is saying he doesn't need half a million, he doesnt mind coming in second. he hopes with enough celebrity he will make enough money for her to not work, now a few tears from Gerry, apologies for tearing up. Roddy says it is in his interest to keep Gerry around because he has a freebie coming from Gerry. Lets say I got Lisa to vote for you then there is no way you can put Lisa up next week. Gerry says the other factor is if I go out then you have Marcellas and Amy both going on the block. Gerry adds I dont like politicking. Roddy says he is not sure yet but there is a chance he could bring something interesting to the table on this one. He is just worried, some of his concerns are he has gotten feedback that people want him out because he is doing well. It annoys the shit out of him. LOL. Gerry: As churchill said you can lose every battle but the last one. This is why I am on the block this week is that the perception is he is smarter than anyone else. That is why Roddy is on the block too. |
C1mag | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 07:07 pm     And you wanna know something Keiff? If Roddy did gets the next hoh I think he would shock Dani and not nominate her or Jason. She's freaking over something that isn't gonna happen. Roddy is looking at the bigger picture. Not nominating her would be brilliant. It would force her to keep her word never to nominate him. Roddy doesn't care who he is sitting in the finals with just as long as he is there and in order for him to do this he has to be very sly if he gets hoh. His target would be Amy because he knows almost everyone left thinks she should be the next too go. He will make it appear as if he is playing on behalf of the house. He Doesn't break any promises and literally dares dani too nominate him if she gets hoh the next time. He may even strike a deal with her prior to nominations. Like I said, she played this whole game completely wrong and she is freaking over the wrong thing. He isn't even gonna nominate her. He's not going to play her game that easy. |
Maris | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 07:08 pm     So it looks like Roddy will go to lisa and try and get the vote for Gerry. Now Roddy obviously thinks he can get Jason. |
Woodpecke® | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 07:10 pm     Roddy was nominated twice. He would most definitely put Danielle up. She has never been nominated and he would surmise that her time was now. Easy analysis without the conspiracy. He even knows she is plotting against him. |
Secretsmile | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 07:12 pm     C1mag, we have been hearing Dani tell everyone she can't nominate Roddy, but I swear I thought that deal was she promised to veto him if she ever got the chance. I even remember her telling Jason that he had to POV last time Gerry won it, cuz she couldn't. I wish we could check the record. |
Wrat1010 | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 07:14 pm     Groucho. I'm sure Danielle had a reason for going to Marcellas with the "shakes things up" scenario. It was a very good strategical move on her part because she won Josh's trust and Chiara-Lisa's trust. Marcellas didn't like it because she made him look like the bad guy for keeping Gerry and made the others in Gerry's former alliance continue to distrust Marcellas since they felt threatened that Marcellas would have put one of them up if the veto was used. I wish Marcellas had called Danielle's bluff to see if she really would have dared to take Josh or Tonya off the block -- I bet she wouldn't have. It's just like her phony support for Roddy and Chiara last week when she kept reassuring them she would go for the veto to take Roddy off the block. Yeah, right... Re: Marc/Amy Don't be sad that Marc wants Amy out before Roddy. That's common sense because Marcellas and Amy are an obvious target to go on the block in the next 2 weeks and he should be worried that Danielle and Lisa would prefer to evict him over Amy and this gives him evidence to support that worry. This doesn't mean that he would vote Amy out -- just that he's more likely to nominate Danielle and Lisa if he feels they will turn on him as soon as Roddy is gone anyway. At this point if Lisa told him Amy should go before Roddy, he should nominate Jason and Danielle instead of Lisa and Danielle since he can boot an ally of Amy and make Amy a new enemy for her to focus her energy on. |
Carigsby | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 07:17 pm     I wonder if the other houseguests have realized that once Roddy is gone - there next biggest threat is Danielle. Even though we have the feeds and see the majority of what is going on, we miss a lot of conversations. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Danielle's eviction isn't already in the making (besides Marc and Amy's convo). These people are not stupid - no matter how many times they have shown otherwise. |
Bmh | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 07:20 pm     Rodddy definitely wont get Lisa's vote because Dani couldn't even make Lisa change her vote..she wants gerry out! |
C1mag | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 07:27 pm     Secret I'm pretty sure the deal she made with Rod was that she would not nominate him. When she made that deal I don't know. Maris thanks for the update. Good for Gerry! We knew he would pull this. We can already guess that he probably won't go for hoh if he stays cause if he does he is limitting himself to nominating Dani and Marcellus. Marc would go and that would just look scummy! Cari I agree with everything you said. Dani needs to wake up! By all her attempts to control the show she has set herself up for eviction. Irregardless of Roddy going or not. Wood... The last thing Roddy would do as hoh would be predictable. He would do a nomination that would serve him later. Not nominating Dani would definitely screw her good. All her worrying and the guy doesn't nominate her. She would look like a fool if she didn't keep her word to not nominate him after that. It's a brilliant plan. I know it's hard for you to give Roddy too much, but then again you said he would already be gone and here he isn't even nominated this week. You are guessing as if you are in that house. Look at who is playing the game. Then you will realize how strategic Roddys potential moves are. He's not gonna nominate based on vengance. He will let someone else do that. |