Archive through August 21, 2002
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Charming Roddy:
Archive through August 21, 2002
Twiggyish | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 08:43 am     Think about it a minute, could you withstand his charm? In a way, I can't blame some of them for being fooled by him. His friend even said that Roddy can charm anyone. He's used to getting his way with people, based on his looks and personality. Plus, he's smart enough to know how to say the right things to the right people.. |
Wcv63 | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 08:45 am     I've encountered that kind of "charm" before and yes I can say with a great amount of certainty that not only could I withstand it but I would RUN from it. |
What555456 | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 08:45 am     Of course he is charming and would probably be very interesting to spend an evening with. So? What does that have to do with the strategy to win this thing? |
Goddessatlaw | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 08:46 am     Et tu, Twiggyish? |
Twiggyish | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 08:46 am     What, um nothing. Just that he uses his charm to win friends and influence enemies. |
Jagger | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 08:47 am     He definitly is slick, he does have a way of getting people to beleive him, until they have had a chance to rethink it and come to their own conclusions. I think Roddy needs to do some fast talking this morning to each of the hgs right before they vote, get them thinking like he wants them to be his best friend and to be the last two there. I think he could pull it off one last time. |
Twiggyish | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 08:48 am     Goddess, might be. I don't know how I would react to him. It's possible I would see through him. |
Twiggyish | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 08:59 am     Marc and Amy are intelligent people, yet, they seem to fall under Roddy's "spell". They haven't seen the DR interviews, nor have they, heard his private conversations with other people like we internet people. Even Chiara has let down her guard with him. |
What555456 | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 09:02 am     Twiggyish, I have to disagree with you. Marc and Amy are not intelligent people. They are emotional people and short sighted people. Both are lonely people looking for friends and affirmation anywhere they can get it. Chiara is like this as well. This is why they fall under the spell of someone like Roddy. He makes them think they are important because of who they are; when in reality they are important to him only as pawns in this game. I admire that in Roddy here in the house -- it is a good strategy and has gotten him this far and given him power. I would not admire that outside of the house. |
Twiggyish | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 09:05 am     What makes you think Amy or Marc are short sighted? It's possible Danielle is less persuasive. Plus, Amy doesn't strike me as lonely or emotionally needy. She's outgoing and very confident. Now if you were referring to Chiara, that's a different story. |
Babyruth | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 09:23 am     Since when are emotions and intelligence mutually exclusive? |
Wcv63 | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 09:25 am     They aren't Babyruth as long as they are balanced with common sense and foresight! |
Twiggyish | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 09:27 am     Yeah, what Babyruth just said! |
Twiggyish | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 09:29 am     I don't think any of them have common sense..LOL (well except maybe Jason) |
Ellenkats | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 09:37 am     Amy and Marc's tendency towards self-absorbed shallowness (me me me, instant gratification, booze/food, designer clothes) makes it difficult for them to see the bigger picture (and how they are being played in it). They only hear compliments & criticism and think about what they can have & what they can't. etc.. They are too easily swayed by Roddy's charisma (gag) and attentions, imo. I don't think Roddy could take me in. His 'perfectness' would irritate me quickly. Which is good for Jason though: Roddy being so 'perfect' takes that trait away from Jason so he's less targeted, imo. |
Twiggyish | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 09:41 am     Good point about drawing away from Jason. That could be a problem if Roddy is evicted. |
Sbw | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 09:45 am     I don't want to be around him, but I watch to watch him play the game. I hope they don't evict him. He will keep the others playing the game. |
Gina8642 | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 09:46 am     How can Roddy be soooo 'charming' when every is sooooo repulsed by it here? If people on the board are repulsed, then that's not charm. If is was charming, then it would work. I think Roddy has his charming moments, but I don't really think he is all that charming overall. Notice after the SC concert, he was really sticking his foot in his mouth several times. I didn't think that was charming at all. To me, Roddy's strength in this game is his ability to manipulate people and read people. He doesn't manipulate through 'charm' he does it through very subtle misinformation. (Nor does he 'read' people through 'charm'.) Roddy lays his attempts at charm on too thick, kinda like a used carsalesman. Disclaimer: All that said, I'm not saying he is a good person or a bad person. It is just an observation. |
Twiggyish | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 09:50 am     Gina, "To me, Roddy's strength in this game is his ability to manipulate people and read people. " Exactly! He finds a weakness and he uses it. Yes, I see it as charm. He also has charisma. Outside the house, we can see his DR interviews (on the tv shows), we can hear him discuss strategies and we see him action with others. They don't have that luxury. Will had that talent with people, too. |
Woodpecke® | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 09:51 am     The houseguests have him figured out better than we do. He is not a convincing charmer, and he comes off as uppity and condescending. He is cruel to those that cross him, and I see NO evidence that he has advanced himself in this game or made himself attractive to internet viewers. He hooked up with Chiara, and that should tell you he had virtually no strategy planned. Roddy was a failure at tricking people, and needs to leave before he embarrasses himself further. |
Boberry | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 09:52 am     From what we have been shown on the tv and from what I have read on the lfps, I have felt that Roddy comes across as a pompous arrogant jerk with a huge superiority complex since the very first minute he opened his mouth the first day. I do not find him charming in any way. His ability to trash people to their faces while acting like he is doing them a favor and helping them fix their problems turns my stomach. He really lost me when he did the big head trip on Amy right before she was evicted. That was the most vicious, cruel thing I have ever seen any do, especially while they were smiling and acting like it was done with the right intentions. IMHO FWIW |
Ellenkats | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 09:53 am     Gina -- well, we don't have to look into his eyes (sigh) and smell his aftershave (deeper sigh), or have him hug/kiss us (wistful sigh) and tell us he likes us. We have 2D protection. ;-) |
Twiggyish | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 09:55 am     I agree he is pompous and arrogant. His little speech to Amy was beyond belief, too. |
Wcv63 | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 09:57 am     Boberry....well said! |
Espen | Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 10:01 am     Gina.. good point.. In fact, Jason is probably the one that is using charm as a "tool" (though I admit he could be that way in person, not that it matters) as everyone DOES fall for it (except a few people who find it slightly boring).. Roddy seems to be more attuned to making people see weaknesses in themselves, and making them feel that he is the only one who can compensate for them by being around.. In some ways, his appeal is more "cultish", even though people don't necessary find him charming as such.. Either way, he is a fascinating individual, and I honestly feel BB3 will be weaker without him.. That said, it will *still* be the best season of BB yet, even going forward.. |
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