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Sanfranjoshfan | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:18 pm     Sheila494 - "i have no idea what was so hard to understand about that." Because it is an uninformed statement. I am not calling you ignorant, but I am suggesting that you apparently know very little about people unlike yourself. Gay men do not want to be women. Some gay men are simply effeminent...and trust me, some str8 men are not all that masculine, either! Just because a gay man is a "stylist", has affected mannerisms and possesses less "macho" than Marilyn Monroe had, it does not mean that he wants to BE Marilyn Monroe. That is such a classic stereotype it makes me laugh.The thing is, gay men are simply men that are romantically attracted to other men. Some are effeminent. Some are so masculine they could make Eric look effeminent. You are thinking of Marcellas as a transexual. As far as I can tell (from the live feeds, watching his actions, his hopes, fears, and desires), Marcellas is NOT a transexual. Btw, I personally know a transexual who is one of the most UNfeminine people I know. Heterosexuality, homosexuality, and transexuality are all three DIFFERENT states of being. Sexual orientation resides between the ears, not in the elasticity of one's wrists. Trust me....not all effeminent gay men long to have been born with no penis or to be paid less for equal work. That is just a silly stereotype that some people hold because they have never had an opportunity to understand. I'm not trying to be mean, but trust me, this is just a stereotype that has been perpetuated because so many people do not know any better. Thanks for listening. Btw, as for the topic...I think Marcellas is simply a bit too much of an egomaniac, but one with no self esteem...he seems to need constant attention and adulation to feel good about himself....something that has nothing to do with his sexual orientation or his gender identity (which are two entirely different things). |
Bbrules4ever | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:19 pm     i think marcellus would look awesome in drag |
Sia | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:23 pm     "(Marcellas)is a person who has to live his life as something that he is not" Um, Marcellas has been trying to "pass" as a fashion stylist--and we know he's NOT, judging by the socks and sandals (toe-socks notwithstanding) and the bathrobe he wears 24/7. Trying to inject some humour into this thread.  |
Sia | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:35 pm     Please take note of the proper spelling: ef·fem·i·nate Pronunciation Key (-fm-nt) adj. Having qualities or characteristics more often associated with women than men. See Synonyms at female. Characterized by weakness and excessive refinement. -from dictionary.com |
Sanfranjoshfan | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:39 pm     Thank you, Sia. I will admit that I am a gay man that has misspelled a word....but that doesn't make me want to be a woman. Too bad you couldn't find an error in the *content* of my post and made a consrtructive criticism. |
Maris | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:41 pm     schwing |
Sanfranjoshfan | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:42 pm     Maris - :-) <couldn't help myself> |
Earthmother | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 11:09 pm     Sanfran: Does she mean I will soon get the daughter I always dreamed of having? Unfortunately my son will make a real ugly woman with all that hair on his cleavage and those huge bicepts. I would really rather he stay a gay man so he doesn't embarrass me when shopping at Macy's woman..lol |
Sanfranjoshfan | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 11:16 pm     Earthmother - LOL You are always a breath of fresh air...and reason...in a very humorous way. My advice on this subject is to be very careful what you wish for (daughterwise, that is) There's nothing worse than a lady with a five o'clock shadow, size 12 feet, and a deep gravelly voice. LOL Btw, I hate to be the one to tell you, but you misspelled "bicep" so I suppose that nullifies your entire post! ;-) |
Sia | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 11:20 pm     Sanfran, I was very careful NOT to comment on the content of your post. I just hated to see you misspell the word "effeminate" so many times in the same post, LOL. I wasn't saying anything about your post. Just fixin' your spelling, okay? I added that after trying to guide the thread into a humorous vein in the post immediately before the spelling correction. I had nothing to do with the initial posts that started the discussion of Marcellas being misassigned as to gender. That one I don't buy, by the way. He seems pretty happy to me to be a gay man. He's an effeminate gay man, but it takes all types. |
Earthmother | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 11:24 pm     Since I am all woman I don't have those bumps on my upper arms so I don't really care how to spell it...lol Wait are those bi's or tri's? I get confused with all that manly stuff.. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 11:35 pm     Okay, Sia, I'll accept that. :-) I suppose that since the definition was posted with no comments, it just appeared curt and a way to criticize my post without criticizing the content. Generally, I am an excellent speller, but once in awhile after all my two-finger typing, plus the rewrites and the typo-fixing, the letters just get all jumbled up and then they don't look right, or they do look right when they shouldn't....sorta like saying the same word over and over until it sounds like it isn't a word at all. And once in awhile a word just gets stuck in my head spelled wrong for some reason. Go figure. I apologize if I came across too snippy. :-) Back to topic - I think Marcellas would like to think of himself as "a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma", but what he really is, is a drama queen wrapped in an ego inside a big fluffy bathrobe. :-) |
Sanfranjoshfan | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 11:37 pm     Earthmother - "Wait are those bi's or tri's? I get confused with all that manly stuff.. " No worries....I know about as much about "breasteses" as you do about "bicepts"...so we're even! LOL |
Earthmother | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 11:40 pm     good I hate when I spell things wrong, especially when disgussing such important topics..lol |
Sheila494 | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 11:40 pm     sanfran..first off i would like to say that i have no problem with gays..to each his own..but i have seen marc with long fingernails on..he made a comment about wearing a strap..obviously he lives as a drag queen outside of the house..and this is only my opinion.. you do not have to agree. |
Earthmother | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 11:41 pm     get it? disgussing (disgusting) so much for my pathetic attempt at humor.. |
Earthmother | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 11:44 pm     Sheila, don't you think if he were a drag queen he would have taken the opportunity to use the paint tonight to put some pretty flowers on his ugly plain white robe? lol |
Sia | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 11:51 pm     I sincerely thank you, Sanfran, for straightening this out with me; I don't want to get into disagreements with anyone here over reality-TV. There's too much going on in the real world of much greater importance. We're not petty--or we shouldn't be. Here's what I did: I simply grabbed the first definition I found of the word and posted it in order to "legitimize" that I had the correct spelling of the word. You're older than I am, and it's important that we almost-senior-citizens set a proper example for the young whippersnappers around here in regard to good spelling, proper sentence construction, etc.--as well as to proper behavior and how to conduct oneself in a public forum and disagree politely. My intent is NEVER to demean or belittle other post-ers. I would never do that intentionally, though I would love to have a red pen to fix all the misspellings! (born editor) I am trying very hard to keep from commenting on people's posts/opinions. I had tried to make a joke to lighten the mood here, because I've been on the receiving end of some rather hostile posts. What's funny, though, is that the definition I found does seem to closely align with the point someone else was trying to make about Marcellas. I don't share that view, and it was not my intention to make it appear that I supported that contention. As to the topic at hand, Marcellas is a mess. That fellow has so much going on that I don't know how he's going to gain control of himself--or his position in the BB3 game. He seems to have ruined his chances for a win/place/show. I only hope that something I read on a post maybe last week might be true in regard to a possible deep-secret alliance between Marcellas and Gerry. It was stated that there was discussion between them and Marcellas said that he would have to continue to bash Gerry publicly (pp). Did you catch that when it happened? If so, I'd be interested to hear your interpretation of that conversation between Marcellas and Gerry. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 11:56 pm     Statistically, most transvestites are heterosexual: http://www.msu.edu/~alliance/faq/faqtransgendered.html#1.16 (I don't know why this link is not active) Marcellas does not "live as a drag queen". I have done drag a few times myself and it was a hoot, but that doesn't mean that I "live as a drag queen." It was like doing performance art.....but that still doesn't mean that I (or any man that has put on a pair of stockings for fun or shock value) wants to be a woman....I simply wanted to make people laugh! :-) Here I am as "Dot Matrix, white trash bride of Frankenstein" in 1993 at Halloween: http://www.kweer.net/glamfolder/glam1.html LOL Back to topic - Marcellas's ego is often overbearing but that isn't evidence that he lives his life wishing he were female. It's evidence of a need for attention. |
Earthmother | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 11:59 pm     Sanfran OMG..lol I am not taking you to Macy's Woman either. |
Snee | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:04 am     marcellas is disintegrating. |
Snee | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:05 am     i dressed up as a man once. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:06 am     Sia - I never heard the convo between Gerry and Marcellas that I saw posted (where he and Gerry had a plan of some sort for Marcellas to badmouth Gerry) These days, I don't think it ever happened, or it was misconstrued, or possibly Marcellas has abandoned that plan because he really does hate Gerry. I believe that because last night when Marce was being really creepy and talking to himself for a good hour nonstop, when EVERYONE else was out in the hot tub (he was in the living room) He was verbally tearing Gerry to pieces while talking to himself! I can only surmise that if no one was there to hear a faked diatribe, then Marcellas's remarks were his real feelings. That whole thing where he talked to himself was a long verbal stream of consciousness that just went down one tangent after another...like a person thinks, only this was all audible. It was truly weird. |
Earthmother | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:07 am     Were you hot, Snee? |
Brynah | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:07 am     Sheila: "but i have seen marc with long fingernails on..he made a comment about wearing a strap..obviously he lives as a drag queen outside of the house" huh? how did you make that leap of logic? (not criticizing, just curious) |
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