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Abby

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They say that alcohol is an escape, Self medication. I think Amy is really out of her element and normally would not be drinking like this. Marc is a diversion, so is the drinking. you can go too far with both. JMHO

Itsallgood

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think they put that segment of Amy drinking for a laugh..just like they did the farting segment and all the other funny segments. Entertainment!

Maris

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Secret as Marcellas just said, Amy is the youngest person in the house and he said he could only imagine what he would have been like in the house when he was 23. He seems to be puttingit in perspective, she is a kid. he also said though that if Roddy puts Dani up against Amy next week then he will vote Amy out.

Itsallgood

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Can anyone remember the night all the girls sat at the table drinking. Then went in DR to ask for more....hmmm

Onlyhuman

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Twistedsis, you just gave me the impetus to finally post on this topic.

I personally think Amy's drinking is not as out of control as everyone believes. When I watch her, I see her acting the same way many people in their early twenties act on their vacation or during spring break. Alcohol is used to relax and ease tension. You run out of alcohol, you try to get more. That's exactly what she's doing. She's setting up the "party" atmosphere the way she knows best.

Do I think this is generally a healthy thing?? Heck no. Do I think she's an alcoholic because of it? Not really, mainly because I see her doing it in this social setting. I think extrapolating it to outside the house is impossible at this point. I also think accusations of her wanting to drink Marci's cleaning products are a little harsh. There is nothing to indicate that she would even consider that.

Interestingly enough, she has not done anything while inebriated that she would not have done sober. Can you same about Chiara and Lisa? That's not to attack them, it's just to point out that Amy may not be as out-of-control as people like to state.

Reader234

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
oh lombadier so glad you werent calling ME a squirrel, must pay attention when dd watches spongebob, even tho thats my puter time!

GO Gerry GO GERRY!! come on Jason, if only Gerry gives Jason a GREAT explanation that Jason can remember, and say to the group, it could happen!!

I seriously doubt it, I just dont see Jason as able to stand in front of a crowd, and change his mind!! He's intelligent, and I just dont think he'll believe it will play well on TV, or with his friends, or with the hg... just my opinion!!

(FYI when you enter free cheerleader gif files on google, you get pages and pages of NOT cheer stuff!! lol use your imagination!!)

Itsallgood

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
^5 Onlyhuman I totally agree.

Seamonkey

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gee, Chiara's an angel.. of course if BB supplied them with ecstasy or coke or pot we might get a real show, now might we???? I'm sure Chiara would have been oh, so restrained.

I do think Amy's got a problem, that is hard to deny, but i don't think that is total grounds for being bumped off the show, any more than Chiara's more recent DUI. Amy's the youngest there and I have hopes that she'll learn, soon, that alcohol may not be her friend. Took me longer, but luckily I got there..

I do wonder how jason's gonna feel now after being worked over by Dani and then Roddy, making his decision after much anguish and then having Gerry come in and try tp further manipulate it?

Gerry is already seen by them as using the game for his own agenda (not that I agree with that necessarily) by using the POV on Marcellas and making a big self-serving speech and never giving it up as a topic of convo.. and of course Marcellas isn't Gerry's only "protege".. as soon as Jason got HOH, Gerry started making suggestions to him about how he should handle the job. Use your radio voice.. etc.

Secretsmile

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, I just heard that! Maybe I just have hope for the girl 'cuz I was so like her (although not southern) when I was her age and I am now the DD at get togethers and a good example for my teens.

Maris

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I can remember being her age and going to clubs and dancing the night away, partying all night long and coming home at the wee hours. We drank quite a lot back then but I dont consider that I was an alcoholic. It was what we did. We didnt drive though I have to say that much. I do see Marcellas point though, this is not the week to be playing that game. Gerry is already badmouthing her so she is leaving herself exposed.

Jhezzie

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They don't HAVE to vote Amy out, they HAVE to vote Roddy out!!!!! She is the funniest HG there. The rest are so dull.
Who wants to hear Roddy go on and on about whatever for the rest of this ordeal? Marc may go postal if Gerry doesn't stop stalking him and if you heard Marc the other night, it ain't pretty.
What do the rest talk about? Nothing but the game. Snore! Leave Amy alone and get her another drink!

Itsallgood

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OK I'm done on the drinking thing...I've seen enough to know I'm not the only one that feels this way so I'll go on down the road. I just needed some feedback and I got it. Amy will be just fine in my opinion. :-)

Niceguy

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If this were Chekhov(sorry folks but a lot of BB reminds of that playwright's vision of the world)this would be at about the point where either the town is burning down or someone gets too drunk and wants to shoot someone else or someone's spouse is carrying on with somebody else's spouse.
Amy, is like one of the vain, silly women in one of his plots. She sees Roddy as a suitable match and has had her rival dispatched. Little does she realize that he's the worst type of guy around.

Oregonfire

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 08:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She was such a little witch in her DR entries tonight. Rival gone and still not happy, Amy? What a spoiled brat. (Of course that was a few days ago now)

Onlyhuman

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 08:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, I was going to drop it when Itsallgood did, but since I've started defending Amy, I'll give it one more go...

I realize that there is a general assumption on this board (and many others) that Amy wants Roddy to be her boyfriend, and that assumption appears to be based on interpretation of Amy's voice and body language when she's around Roddy. As far as I know, she's never said that to anyone, she's only stated the opposite. I'd like to offer a different interpretation, if I may.

From what I've seen of Amy on the live feeds, she really wants to feel comfortable in the house. The blatant sexuality and somewhat personal conversations left her lost. Her natural personality appears very flirtatious, but in a reserved, proper manner, like a classic southern belle. She enjoyed flirting with Roddy because he responded on this level. She enjoys flirting with Jason because he does the same thing. She's not after them, she's just behaving as she naturally does. If Chiara hadn't gotten so upset, and if Tonya hadn't fanned those flames, Amy would have continued flirting, Roddy would have continued flirting and it would have become the house joke. But it got blown into something so major that Amy couldn't even talk to Roddy without Chiara blowing a fuse.

Everytime Amy talks to Roddy, people on the boards make a HUGE deal out of it. She sleeps in a different room from him (in spite of Gerry's machine) and I have never heard her even HINT at the two of them having a relationship. I think she admires him (after all, everyone in the house told her she deserved the cruel things he said to her in his nomination speech so she feels like it was for her own good) and she enjoys his friendship because she doesn't get a lot of it in this house. I just don't see that she has any intention of forming a real relationship with him.

Of course, it's all JMHO.

Maris

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 08:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with you Onlyhuman. I just laugh at the characterization of Amy as some desperate 20 something year old who wants the balding 30 year old. Amy flirts. I also think that women are treated very harshly by the boards especially when talking about their relationships with the men in the house. They are either insipid women who need a man to give them identity (Lisa and Eric), they are shrews (Lori), they are sluts (Chiara, Tonya) Lushes (Amy) or control freaks (Danni). They are not portrayed attractively at all.

Secretsmile

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 08:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good Point Maris! Do ya think it's 'cuz we women hold other women to a higher standard and so many posters are women?

Maris

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 08:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it is like Gerry said in in the first week of the game to Roddy and Eric. Women are not team players and will destroy each other. (I did not make this up, it was said in the hammock when they were talking about the alliance of men versus women)

Peaceful

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 08:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with you Onlyhuman and Maris 100%.

Twistedsis

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 08:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ONlyhuman I totaly agree with you on that, but want to add Amy has said she likes to take others boyfriends. I am not saying she wanted Roddy, however I do think she is a very needy unsecure person. There is something very lacking in her life, thus the need for lots of attention constantly and all the alcohol. However all the alcohol that she consumes daily alone with her 2 dui's show a very bad pattern which have an even worse outcome. I hope she can dodge that bullet and get help once out of the house, if she doesn't it will be very sad.

Wcv63

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 08:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Onlyhuman, Amy's capitulation to Roddy's charms or even wanting to flirt are not at the crux of my recent disillusionment with Amy. I'm noticing a much more pronounced tendancy to whine (very unattractive and very annoying) and a mean streak that permeates her humor. One of these things on their own I could have easily overlooked but when these traits are combined it makes me cringe.

Did I just not notice this before? Have my feelings changed because my favorites are in danger because of her behaviors?

Onlyhuman

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 08:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Secretsmile, I do think women in general get held to a higher standard of behavior. Neither Amy nor Jason wanted to be the one to put Roddy up and out of the house, but Amy is the one accused of being selfish, emotional and in love with Roddy. Jason, on the other hand, did a noble, strategic thing.

Maris, I try to laugh about it, but sometimes I get really frustrated reading it over and over and over again. You're much stronger than I am. I guess I'm just a needy, emotional woman who can't keep focused on the game.

Maris

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 08:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No Onlyhuman, your problem is you are jealous because everyone knows that Roddy is an irresistable male that no human can resist (don't forget the posts about Amy and Marcellas catfighting over Roddy like he was a bone), not even over the internet.

Sam222

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 08:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am not saying that Amy is after Roddy at this time and as wcv63 says that is not my problem with her, I stated my issues with her earlier. however there is proof that she was after Roddy when she was in the house before. She and Marc talked about it constantly when he was HOH and she would sing that "I got your boyfriend" song all the damn time. she also talked about injecting Chiara with rubbing alcohol so that she could get Roddy. I also have no problem with her drinking she is young and like others I remember what I was like at 23.

Azriel

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 08:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wcv, I think our feelings do change as the house changes around our favorites. I've officially gone over to the dark side and I'm rooting for Roddy now because he helps my favorites. It's only human I think :)