What does it mean when marcellus calls gerry a "TROLL"?
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What does it mean when marcellus calls gerry a "TROLL"?
Hosewater | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 09:57 pm     Huh? Those are TRUE LABELS! All taken from what these houseguests have said and demonstrated. |
Hosewater | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 09:57 pm     One problem with Gerry is that he is/was an actor, and like many actors thinks that he can perform without a script. However, an actor ain't nothin' without a well-written script to read from. And most actors don't make good writers (Ethan Hawke). So, in Gerry's mind he was turning in a good performance. Unfortunately, he did not have the words to make an impact. |
Hillbilly | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:13 pm     ..gerry jest strikes me as the kind of feller who's wife is always havin to help him get his foot out of his mouth...i's knows cause i's the same way...but while i's agree that the speech made me 'cringe' when's i heard it...i ain't seen anything in gerry's actions or gestures this whole time that would tell me he's a mean-spirited person. he jest needs some ettiquete lessons for sure... |
Abby | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:23 pm     What is so wrong with Marc Going to the source when Gerry made that speech.. In fact Gerry talked to Marc that morning and Marc didnt say "Gerry I take issue with that." or "Gerry this is how I take your remark..is it what you meant?" Saved alot of grief it someone had the guts to sit and talk about it when it happened and understand what was in the man's heart when he said it... instead of the childish self-centered, rude and vile remarks. Of course this is hindsight and MHO |
Classycassfan | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:24 pm     I would love to see Marci try to confront Gerry about his so called racial slurs, then maybe Marci could finally be confronted about his racial slurs about Native Americans, at least Gerry statements were about him and how he had felt, not about a group of people that are such drunks they can't have disinfectes sold in their stores. |
Earthmother | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:54 pm     What it means when he calls Gerry a troll is that Marc is an ass of epic proportions..I wish him GONE |
Chance | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 11:01 pm     Gerry is no saint. He is the prison B**ch who played the wrong card today because once again he misread the house. So au revoir Gerry. <---- from Maris I think you're remark is quite mean, Maris. Marcellas' comments are far more than "over the top" and I cannot understand how you support his hatred and vile behavior. |
Marcellasfan | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 11:10 pm     What it means is that Marcellas is a ill-mannered, spoiled, disrespectful brat! pure and simple!! Marc behavior towards Gerry has been truly dispicable. |
Willsfan | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 11:23 pm     Marcellas apparently has a huge fan base according to the CBS poll. |
Earthmother | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 11:31 pm     Sure he does because most of the people who vote are the ones who only watch the show. We all know how Marc is edited to look like some kind of great guy. If they would show his true colors that poll would be much different. |
Wendo | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 04:18 am     You know, there's one thing I don't get about Marcellas and his hatred of Gerry. If you all will recall back many, many weeks to the show after Marcellas was vetoed, there was a DR entry by Marcellas about Gerry's speech. In Mar's DR speech, he commented how grateful he was that Gerry saved him and said he thought the speech was "beautiful". Marcellas isn't mad at Gerry about the speech, it's just his excuse. His anger stems from the fact that he now RESENTS Gerry for doing it because he now feels he didn't need it, and he feels that he OWES Gerry something. Despite the fact that Gerry has said, countless times, Mar didn't owe him anything. Agree or disagree with Gerry's speech, that's fine, but the problem lies with Mar on this one, not Gerry. |
Silksmoke | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 06:44 am     I agree Wendo. It wasn't until Josh clued Marcellas in that if it weren't for Gerry saving him with the veto vote, Marcellas would have been evicted. I believe at first Marcellas hated Gerry because he felt he didn't need Gerry to "save" him because he could have beaten Lori on his own. Gerry's speech when he used the POV was IMO grandstanding, inappropriate, and publically humiliating to Marcellas who wanted to be seen as a man in his own right. Not labeled as the "black" man, or the "gay" man. Gerry wanted to look like the savior of the oppressed. I felt disgusted by Gerry's speech. After learning the truth from Josh (and it was the truth) I believe his reason for hating Gerry was because loathed the idea of having to be grateful to a man he'd held in such contempt. Marcellas should have confronted Gerry with his feelings, instead he chose to engage in vile name calling, and personal attacks on Gerry and his family. Except for Lori, the houseguests have displayed a "mob mentality" against Gerry. |
Hermione69 | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 06:49 am     Earthmother, Hillbilly, Hosewater, Wendo, etc... I just want to say thank you for speaking my mind! I can never seem to find the right words when it is an issue I feel strongly about like this one (how Marc treats Gerry), but you all put it quite eloquently. APPLAUSE! |
Allietex | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 09:20 am     If you think back Gerry approached Marcy BEFORE the veto meeting and sounded him out about what he was going to do and say. It's funny that Marcy did not say something then about Gerry's ideas. It was not until afterwards (after he was off the hot seat) that he became offended. I don't think he was really offended at all. He just did not want to be beholden to Gerry. He dislikes Gerry because he is fat and unattractive and his personality grates on Marcy. And his hate is way out of proportion to Gerry's remarks. Gerry was trying to do the right thing. Sure his speech was poorly prepared and Gerry was obviously very nervous giving it and tended to ramble and not make real good sense. He should have just vetoed Marcy and said he felt he was treated unfairly, but he was trying to explain his actions. He did a poor job but that does not mean he is a racist. Gerry realized a fault in his own actions and was appalled at them. He tried to right what he felt he had done wrong, and he has paid a high price for it. Marcy can't forgive but he expects people to overlook his faults. In fact he expects people to be amused by them. What a hypocrite! |
Allietex | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 09:47 am     I just went back and read the live feeds for the week Gerry vetoed Marcy. If you are interested go to Archives, July 15, 4th line,10:54 time. Scroll down and read the wholE page. Gerry tells Marcy pretty much what he said later in the veto speech. Marcy does not object in any way. In fact he encourages him. Now, question. Was he in fact offended then but kept his mouth shut because he wanted Gerry to veto him or did his offence only develop after the veto when he was safe? |
Gina8642 | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:08 am     I think Marc is very insecure. He never trusts that anyone likes him. (Gerry saves him, M bashes G. Dani brings him into her alliance, M bashes D. Amy loves Marc, M bashes Amy. It is beginning to be a very familiar pattern.) He says nasty things about whoever is not in the room. He's even saying mean things about Amy now, his 'best friend' in the BB house. I think his problem with Gerry developed after the Veto. I don't think he likes being beholden to Gerry. I don't think he really liked or disliked the speach. What really got him was later, when Gerry called Marc 'his protege'. Marc has said many times that is when he really started to dislike Gerry. All that said I can't bring myself to totally dislike Marc. I just see him as very insecure. And, possilbly just trying to play the game. Let everyone think he dislikes everyone. No one can predict his actions that way. No one can be certain who he is truly allied with. Kinda the opposite of D or R's strategy of making friends/connections with all the HGs. |
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