Will Roddy setup Chiara?
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Avery

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There is nothing this man can do to make the majority of you happy except leave. He has talked to Chiara the SAME way the entire show. One week it is he is manipulating her now he is trying to get her angry and cause a scene to stay. You have threads all over how you can't stand the way Chiara acts and talks but when HE speaks to her about the same thing oh my, how dare he! You want him to be a man and be honest and tell her there is no relationship outside of this house, yet again when he tries to, you would think that Elvis was found shopping at Walmart with the controversy that caused. I watched the man lay in the bed with Chiara just now and say he thinks he is going. So, here that means he is spoiling for a fight??? Cause two mins later he told her she had a killer body...you know Chiara may be a few brain cells shy of a coconut but something tells me she was not ready to spar over such an insult. And the singing thing,and trying to set up Dani, uhm I don't even have a clue what you are talking about cause as I read that post it was HIM that was singing several songs in a row. Now, I know according to this board Hell seeps thru this man's blood, but I don't think he is powerful enough to get someone a penalty nomination because he is a lousy singer. According to the latest whisper fest odds are he is leaving on Thursday, my goodness, what on earth will some of you do with your extra time.

What555456

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keep in mind that last night Dani talked very nicely to Chiara -- listening to her and telling her what a great person she is. Smart move. Makes it much harder for Roddy to get her to blow. She now does not feel alone in the house. And, having dropped her like he did, what Roddy forgets is that "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned."

Even if Roddy provokes her, I suspect not only will the Dani/Lisa/Jason alliance hold, but Chiara will be viewed as the victim and Roddy will be out by a unanimous vote. It seems everyone is on to him this week.

I also agree -- watch Amy next week when Roddy is gone, she does not have the attention of being HOH and she is not "new" to the house any more. Especially if she is nominated, she could be one nasty lady.

Misslibra

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Avery your wrong he made me very happy last night. I was so glad he told Chiara about her behavior. I just wish he had of done it a lot sooner. :)

Sassylady

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
A quick question: I just read that Roddy said he was in trouble with BB for "acting out" does anyone know what that is in reference to?

Keiffer

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Alright Avry....


You would think that this guy was a the member of the KKK we love Hitler fan club.

Oregonfire

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I will be dancing on his X-ed out picture, yes indeedy! <cackle>

Car54

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You go Avery! Tell it!

I don't really care who goes this week. If I was playing I would boot Roddy because he is clearly the stronger player and that is the goal.

I don't think I would like Chiara much outside the house, and I don't think she can win, so I would let her stay a bit longer, but I bet she would get on my nerves.

I think both these people latched on to each other because of the house and very little else, but that is really their business after the game.

Misslibra

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes he has been doing things such as singing when he hadn't been singing before, just so they can cut to the front door on purpose. Kind of like a spoil brat, because he knows he is leaving. I wouldn't be at all surprise if Marcel haven't told him he will be voted out. So he is taking his last licks out on BB. He also didn't like the twist thrown into the game bringing Amy back. So Roddy has been using the front door more then usual these days and BB finally called him on it.

Carolm

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sassylady,
He was singing! We had FOTH almost all day:(

Minnyace01

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer - I think that he does have feelings for her and he was very honest in their conversation last night. He told her afterward that he still wanted to see her outside the house. They talked about it very little today, Chiara told him that was enough, and he stopped. If he was going to pursue the relationship outside the house, he had to have that discussion with her now (he probably should have had it out with her earlier, instead of just hinting at it). He is not going to start a fight with her and is going to enjoy the day tomorrow with her (remember, they vote early in the day so anything that would happen after that would be meaningless).

Costacat

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whether he's setting her up or not, I really don't think their "relationship" is long for this world. It seems to me that both of them want (or need) to be the center of attention. That can create a little bit of conflict in the real world. And I really do think Roddy is slightly appalled at some of what Chiara says/does. I have a sneaking suspicion that he thinks she is a bit trashy and that he's a lot classier than she is.

I think Roddy is not long for the BB house either. I don't think the three will miss this opportunity to evict him. Of course, once he's gone, Chiara will be swinging in the breeze mostly by her lonesome. Which should make for an interesting week.

Avery

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Keiffer, if he isn't already then we got some that will be waiting at his exit to tattoo it on his forehead so he will forever be evil.

Misslibra

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes Minny, but he told her that after Dani came into the room. I thought he was just trying to save face and not embarrass Chiara in front of Dani. Even Chiara asked Dani what did you say to him, because he change around what he had been saying to her.

Misslibra

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Costacat said> Whether he's setting her up or not, I really don't think their "relationship" is long for this world. It seems to me that both of them want (or need) to be the center of attention.

I agree, I wouldn't even call this a relationship.

Sassylady

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Misslibra and Carol..Thanks :0)No wonder there hasn't been much to read...

Minnyace01

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Misslibra - again, women interpret things just a little differently than men do, and this guy in most of your minds, can't do a damn thing right.

Goddessatlaw

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Heh heh heh - Avery & Keiffer breakin' one off. And I AGREE with them, which is the best part. Funny stuff.

Secretsmile

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
YIKES, I didn't mean to give Avery the impression I was personally involved with Roddy or any of the other houseguests, I simply find his strategies the most interesting and complex,(not a bad thing for winning a reality tv show.) He DOES play the other houseguests, and sorry I haven't the transcript time and date for, it but Dani was muttering the other day about BB threatening her with a penality nom for singing and I gave Roddy credit for remembering it and using it againist her in the power play.
Sorry folks,thought this was for fun and entertainment.

Keiffer

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As for Chiara being left to be by herself once Roddy is gone I wouldn't bet on it. If she survives nomminations next week she could become a player. Lisa has adapted pretty well on her own, Will did it last year. One thing about being in a couple on this show. If you are the one that survives when the couple is broken up you seem to be forgotten about for a week or two. In that time you can position yourself in lots of ways. Her only shortcoming is still believing people when they say things to her. Jason says he is sorry about the Eric vote, Danny saying all that Danny says... and Chiara believes because she asks Jason or Gerry to vote her out that they will just do it. Perhaps when she learns of Danny doing the double cross even though it bennifited her (like Lisa) she will have her eyes opened.

Goddessatlaw

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Secretsmile - don't worry about it. It is for fun and entertainment, and Keiffer and Avery mean it that way. It's a rite of passage to get lit up by Avery and Keiffer - your name doesn't hit the radar screen until they've set you on fire a time or twelve. PS It's not what they say to you, it's how you handle it. It's a test, girl. Now get back in there and kick some *ss.

Misslibra

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Minny, I never said he couldn't do anything right, so I guess your not talking to me. I like Roddy, but without the Chiara on the side. :)

And I don't like his singing.

Starz

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm shaking out the cobwebs on this one but I thought that early in the game the boys (R,E,J) decided to align themselves fairly closely to a girl. Josh tried to stay close to Tonya, Eric fell hard for Lisa and Rod, I think, aligned himself with Chiara but I don't think he ever saw himself as her boyfriend. THat's why he squirms so much when she starts talking like that, why he always claims he's never kissed her and why he needs 'alone' time. He's not interested in her in 'that' way. She's just part of his strategy. His female Josh in that house full of Josh's he was hoping for.

Secretsmile

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL @ myself, Thank you Goddess. And thank you Avery and Keiffer for letting me be one of the KEWL KIDS!

Avery

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
WTG secret pass a couple of more tests and we will let you join us in the secret tree house.

Goddessatlaw

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Don't give her the link just yet, Avery, and don't show her the secret handshake. She has a few more hurdles to jump.

Secretsmile

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 07:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
AWWWW! I'm just happy to be noticed! LOL, family is gone for the week, you aren't about to get rid of me so fast!

Whit4you

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 07:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Avery! Haven't seen you post much this year - hope all is well with you - still 84? Shouldn't you be hitting the big 90 soon? LOL.

Your right Roddy can't win with this crowd - no matter what he does... cause they are not used to seeing manipulation in living color as they see here - I've seen so many relationships like it it's unreal...people who start fighting within the first week or two of being together and I always think why in the world would they stay together if they are already having all these problems.. but they do - and end up fighting for a few years then splitting up... what a waste of a few good years!

Jaysgal

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 08:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy's being so mellow. I suggested the following before but kind of forgot about it: Roddy is probably trying to pretend to be a mellow and powerless person, thus insignificant. The rumour that has been passed on the show and even on this forum is that he's very manipulative and powerful. If he pretends to be powerless, then Danielle's argument wouldn't sell. Jason or Lisa or anyone else who thought this way of him may start to reconsider and feel Chiara is a bigger threat if he allowed the controlling Chiara or the Chiara seeming to have no regards for how he Roddy feels.

Sometimes it looks like this won't work. But the magic of mind game is that messages are subtle like chemical agents gradually doing their magic. Lisa, for instance, seems to be flip-flopping and doesn't seem to feel that threatened by Roddy as she is by Chiara, per her words about Chiara coming after her faster than Roddy would.

Let's see what happens. I'm trying not to hype it. I can't put my money on Lisa because she seems to have a thinking mind but likes the loyalty concept more. She brushes off what her thinking mind tells her (or rather, she has no confidence in her thinking system) and goes with what loyalty says. I'm not going to be too excited this time. Last time it was the same with Josh's case. Evicting Josh for image purposes last week would seem useless if the house guests are willing to break the rule this time.

I have to agree with Avery about we seeming to observe suddenly things that had happened since. I remember when Josh and Roddy were nominated, Roddy at some point had began distancing himself and seemed to speak of a break up, but Chiara didn't seem to get it. I remember a thread started on that subject. People speculated that his motive was exactly what they mentioned here. However, here it is happening again. It seems to me that he tells her this in different forms, but I do agree that he hardly spoke up during the first weeks.

Eden

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 09:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know about anyone else. I don't "hate" Roddy or any of the HGs. I comment on Roddy, Danielle and Chiara most because they do the most things that cause comment. When Roddy is gone I'll comment on someone else! I love this game but I don't care enough about any of these people to HATE them.

Do I want Roddy out of the house this week? Yeah, I just happen to like the Danielle alliance more. Does that mean he's the Devil or Evil incarnate? Nope, just means I like the Danielle alliance more. That's it! We've all chosen sides, even those that support Roddy. So don't attach some more meaningful agenda to all the non-Roddy loving posts than is intended. I, for one just LOVE the game.

Sisalou

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 09:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ditto Eden ! :)

Shannonu

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Roddy was the BEST mastermind he would flirt with Amy outrageously tonight and let Amy flirt back when Chiara is near. If he were to cause a fight between the two girls the others might vote her out to avoid a week of hell. If he only makes Chiara mad at HIM they will just think he has to go.

We shall see tonight.

Wendo

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Eden, ditto two.

Oregonfire

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So far feeds post-concert are boring. Gerry and Roddy playing chess. Others sitting around not doing much. No feeds on Dani, Chiara, Lisa last I checked.

Starz

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Chiara just doesn't get it. She still thinks she'll have a relationship with Roddy after the show. The two of them are in HRD right now and she's telling him how much she cares about him and how great things will be when they're on the outside 'together'. That's why he couldn't push her buttons because she's just not hearing what he's saying to her.