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Pesto

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 12:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What: Please tell me why you think Jason and Lisa toed the line... Has anything been said since the "opposite" line, that makes you think this, or just a hunch? I wanna jump on that bandwagon if there's room, but Woody and Maris won't move over :)

Bailey

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 12:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I honestly don't think Roddy will leave himself open for another perceived relationship in the house. I think he probably regrets getting into one with Chiara and thinking that's why he's become a target. He may flirt with Amy.. and she'll flirt back. But I think that's about as far as it's gonna go on his part. I don't think we'll see all the fireworks everyone is expecting to see re a triangle with RAM. If they're smart, they'll stay tight alliance-wise.. and leave it at that.

What555456

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 12:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jump on, pesto. Who cares if we know what we are talking about? Maybe we do. Maybe we don't. Kind of like being a houseguest!

Maris

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 12:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I find it intersting how Amy's desire for friendship from Roddy is characterized.
Roddy is very charismatic and has commanded the same reaction from the men as well ie (remember Josh and Eric). They all looked up to him and sought approval. I dont necessarily think they all wanted to jump his bones and get inside his pants.

Pesto

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 12:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I actually like Amy's personality but to me, the worst part about the whole Amy Roddy thing is the night before he booted her. To my ears, the line he told her was somewhat demeaning and really self-righteous (i.e., I am glad I was able to play a small part in you (A) entering the human race, blah, blah). I have already heard Amy revisit this theme and not only with Rod, actually thanking him (honestly) for the alleged favor he did. This really blows me away and knocks Amy a few steps down in my book. And to think I was cheering when she re-entered the house...

Bbholden

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 01:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Amy has just gotten to the same point I have, if ONLY Danielle would shut up and leave people alone for five minutes. That woman is the most unattractive, undesireable, annoying, nosey and useless person....lol Hmmm I don't think I like her much. hahahahahahaha

Earthmother

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 01:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
oh now since Amy is playing the game (wanting Dani out)something is wrong? All I have heard is Dani and Roddy are the only two playing the game. Please, they are all playing the game, differently, but playing. It's in Amy's best interest to get rid of Dani. Remember when Dani had the girl thing going she didn't invite Amy to the party. If Dani said I want to get rid of Amy then it would be okay because afterall Dani is playing the game? If Chirara, Dani and Roddy go then who becomes the alphas...I'd say Marc and Amy. So it's in the best interest of Dani and Roddy to get rid of the two of them and the two of them to get rid of Marc and Amy.

Earthmother

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 01:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I messed up the last sentence..I meant Dani and Roddy need to get rid of Amy and Marc and vice versa..what they tend to forget is that Jason is also playing a strong game from behind the scenes.
Jason, Gerry and Lisa could hook up and give them all a run for their money.

Zachsmom

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 01:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
From your lips to BB ears Earthmother..:)

Chyang

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 02:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy never really wanted to "play the game". I thought she might have gotten some new insight from producers or whomever she came in contact with,--let's not talk about fairness here-- but she's still not a player now.

I'm thinking along the same line with Wcv's 12:30 post.(you may have changed your mind since a la HGs?)Looks to me the most important thing in Amy's heart now is to be redeemed in Rodfather's eyes. It's of no consequence what Dan, Ger or Lisa(not sure about Jas) all think about her, but Rodfather must give her the nods at every turn to make her feel good about herself. She doesn't necessarily want Rodfather as a lover, just desperately need him to come around and see Amy in the same light all her other worshipers do.
In one department Amy seems to have been bought up well: She is not looking for romance or casual relationships or ----(whichever Ki would call it) wherever she goes. She is not easy or sl_tty....

I'm not pretending to be an expert on any thing, but I have a feeling Amy has some issues. She's said many times in many different occasions that she needs attention. Remember she's even not happy with SC concert being on Tue. night? (I read her talking into the mic that she needs more time..)

Hotty_Toddy

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 02:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I said a while back that Amy was the Alpha male of that house and Roddy couldn't deal with it. Once she allowed him to be dominant over her, they are both getting what they want.

As for Amy not having any power in the house next week, that's just absurd. She has a vote, one of just four, and she can win veto. Plus, if she turns out to be the victor of Amy v. Danielle, she is the clearly stronger of the two. Plus, if she gets her way, Roddy will still be there and that's one hell of an ally.

Theo17

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 02:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
if danny jason or lisa win hoh its going to be roddy vs marcy or amy and roddy is gone for sure if that happens. Only way out would be a gerry pov which wont happen. I just pray one of dlj gets hoh because this week hoh has tiebreaker also

Princesspeach

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 02:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
why are amy and mar talking choppy? what did i miss?

Bbrules4ever

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 02:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
lol.....amy sounds like she is on ACID.....get that girl some medication

Bernie

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 02:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually, in the middle of their dissing sessions late at night in the HOH, Marcellas and Amy do quite a lot of strategy talk, and Amy has a very good handle on what everyone is up to, which I think is part of the reason she was so upset when she found out about Dani. It's surprising considering that she was out of the loop for a couple of weeks, and impressed me with her acumen.
Funnily enough, she also talked about always being ugly and unpopular until she developed into a young woman, and never having had a real boyfriend. She and Marcellas commiserated the other night about being the fat/skinny kids who are always picked on and/or never chosen for the teams.
It's more like she hungers for attention more because she doesn't usually get it, than because she's used to it. Harks back to her remark in the DR about always being the bridesmaid and at last being the bride. And that makes me sympathise with her...

Oregonfire

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 02:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That girl talks all the time about how she was an ugly kid and unpopular until high school, when she blossomed and become "drop dead gorgeous," in her own words. Who cares? So what if she was an ugly duckling. Sheesh who wasn't in fifth grade? The same goes for about 90% of the population, except many don't ever get to be "gorgeous" like she is/was. What a self-absorbed little twit.

Cameltoes

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 03:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Theo - if Amy wins POV, she has to save Roddy because of their box challenge deal. What do you want to bet that's exactly what happens?

Wendo

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 03:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Chyang, I have to agree with you. From my perspective watching the feeds Amy desperately wants Roddy's approval. And, she's done everything she can to get it. She likes approval, wants to be wanted and liked. What's really disappointing, imo, is that she DOES have it from other people in the house (Ja, Dani, Mar). But for some reason, it's not enough if she doesn't have Roddy's.

What's additionally interesting is, I don't think Roddy really cares for Amy. Last night on the feeds (before I went to bed) he was in the hammock talking to Chi. It was the conversation about how does one get ones strategy OUT THERE, if they're voted out. At one point, he mentioned Amy (as an example of course). That, you may not like Amy, but you have to in here, good for strategy. I actually think he was telling the truth, that he really doesn't like her. But, JMO.

Bernie

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 03:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bernie falls back, reeling...ouch Oregon! I was just trying to be nice and empathetic - sheesh!

Seamonkey

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 03:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I suddenly wonder if "opposite" meant that Jason would switch to vote Roddy out, while Dani would now be voting Chiara out.. thus cancelling each other's votes?

As for wanting to keep Roddy.. well let's just look at comfort.. Roddy is pleasant to her, talks to her, listens to her, compliments her and isn't hysterical and foul mouthed for the most part. Chiara openly hates her, makes her uncomfortable whenever possible, is almost always foul mouthed and hysterical, and whiney. And seems to be moving under Dani's thumb.

I spect I'd want Chiara to be gone too.

Amy and Roddy and Marcellas have DARED to speak aloud about Dani's machinations.. that means to Dani they must go.. now for the game, sure, to Dani they must go.. but where I totally part company with Dani is that just because she's been caught, THEY are all the spawn of satan. A wee bit of overkill, IMO.

Lurknomore

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 03:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Earthmother, I don't mind that Amy is finally playing the game. I wouldn't even mind if she went after Dani. What I do mind is that she and Dani had that heart to heart and Dani changed the vote (far as we can tell, let you know in a few hours for sure lol) to honor her word to Amy. Amy then told Dani how much it meant to her.

Well that sure didn't last long. Not that I think Dani hasn't been playing too many people/games, but I think she ultimately tried to do right by Amy and is gonna get knifed in the back for it. Bottom line is I think what Amy wants more than anything is a house full of men surrounding her and her strutting around like the peacock. Her stock has really gone down in my book.

Bernie

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 03:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo, I watched that convo, and for the life of me I couldn't follow what the heck they were talking about. What did he mean, getting one's strategy OUT THERE? And all the rest of it? No wonder Chiara can't 'get' him, because he talks in riddles. His convos with Chiara are a mystery - or I'm just thick as a plank, which is quite likely!

Oregonfire

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 03:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
More directed at Amy than you, Bernie! But when I read that she was talking about that stuff *again,* I couldn't believe it. She should count her many blessings and stop fixating on some imaginary problem she had when she was in grade school. (Self-editing here.)

Seamonkey

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 03:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Excuse me.. Amy hardly has approval from DANI.. good grief! And Marcellas is pretty honest with her and also critical. And, to be honest some of the criticism in both cases is that they want to be able to "guide" Amy more than they are able. Nice way to say "use". Marcellas is a friend tho.
Dani is not a friend. Jason has been pleasant to her, but he's that way to everyone.

Maris

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 03:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lurk I disagree with your interpretation of the facts. The way I saw it is that Dani was FORCED to keep her word to Amy because she knew that she had been telling everyone that her word is gold. If she did not keep her word to Amy then it would be all over the house in five minutes that Dani was caught in a lie and her word to everyone else in that house would be in question. Dani made a strategic decision, whether it is the right one or not I dont know.

I still believe that Dani did not keep her word and that it will turn out that Dani voted Roddy out. As everyone knows votes don't remain a secret in that house and we will know tomorrow who Dani voted for.