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What555456

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 12:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that no matter who goes (but it will be Roddy! <g>) the biggest losers of the last few days will be Amy and Marcellus.

Amy had power only because she was handed HOH. She showed herself to be nothing more than an emotion-driven, revenge-filled spoiled brat and acted like it -- complete with temper tantrums. She will not be trusted or desired by anyone as a partner. They kicked her out 7-0 before and she will be gone again before too long. Until then, she will be relegated to a non-entity.

Marcellus has shown himself to be one who runs and tells every secret he has to whomever plays his fragile ego. No one will trust him with any information after this. He too is no an non-entity because he will be kept out of what is really happening.

Even if Roddy stays (he won't! <g>) and Dani is put up (unlikely), Dani need only survive the coming week to regain her position of power. She has been hurt by the last week, but not fatally.

The big losers are Amy and Marcellus.

Muse

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 12:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it's impossible to predict what will happen in that house. Anything could happen. :)

I do agree that Amy and Marcellas lack self-control. Marcellas' Gerry bashing might very well catch up to him, and his deal with Roddy already is. Even if Danielle goes, I think she's convinced Lisa (and probably Jason, although I think he knew it already) that Marcellas can never be fully trusted. And I also think that everyone knows that Amy doesn't think rationally. The Amy/Marcellas friendship makes them a target as well.

Amy and Marcellas seem to subscribe to Danielle's "eyes open" mantra, but not to the "mouth shut" part. :) And revealing your hand can really hurt you in this game.

Pesto

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 12:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think we can all agree that the big loser this week is Hardy

What555456

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 12:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Pesto -- LOL!!!! But he has been a big loser for a long time on many levels.

Gouraphik

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 12:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I disagree. First of all, we don't know who will be going. The amount of speculation flying on the board alone indicates that there's just not enough hard evidence to prove the case either way.

Next, whether Amy's motivations for wanting Roddy around are "legitimate" (strategic) or "illegitimate" (emotional), or a mix of both, it sort of doesn't matter. Amy wanted Chiara gone, and was willing to put up Jason & Chiara to do so until she was persuaded to do otherwise, particularly by Danielle. It was in Amy's best interest to use Jason as a "hostage" to indirectly force the others to boot Chiara, and it was in Danielle's best interest to have Roddy put up and have him booted.

Everybody lied. Everybody in the house has their own agendas. That's the way it is. Amy feared the wrath of Chiara. Danielle feared the presence of Roddy. D/L/J wanted to have their cake (boot Roddy) and eat it too (get someone else to do the dirty work of nominating Roddy & Chiara). It's a test of wills in that house to a degree. There are too many agendas being served, many of which are incompatible. Alliances come and go, often at the drop of a hat.

I guess I'm just trying to point out that Danielle is as much of a loser in this as Amy & Marcellas. If Roddy's gone, good for her, but it was a sloppy way to do it. Danielle painted herself into a corner, and gained a new foe. Amy may not be much of an enemy, but a weak ally is better than a enemy of any sort, don't you think? I'll really have to see how the day plays out before I make any future judgments...the game's just too complex at this point.

Zachsmom

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 12:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Excellent post Oregon!!!

Maris

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 12:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Where is Oregon's post?

Zachsmom

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 12:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OPPS! I meant Gouraphik!!! (sorry Maris..if your head is spinning as much as mine..sorry if I made it worse..:))

Dixiebelle31

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 12:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Chiara's behaviour (especially shown last night) makes her the biggest loser this week. I don't think Amy has acted much differently than any other person who has gotten HOH this season or last. They all tend to act spoiled and bossy. But then again I can only go by what I read here and see on TV as I don't have the LF.

Oregonfire

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 12:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Reports of my postings are greatly exaggerated.

Thanks for the laugh Zachsmom. That was funny!

Ginger

Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 01:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Excellent post, Gouraphik! I agree with most of it--especially about the fact that Danielle has painted herself into a corner at this point. I'm not entirely crazy about her as a person, but she is an excellent BB game player, uh...that is, until lately. I think she has way over-played, become rather egotistical about it, and now will pay for that mistake.

One thing though, I don't think that Amy nominated Roddy because that's what Dani wanted her to do. I think she did it because she realized that Dani was right when she pointed out that Roddy could get POV and use it on Chiara if he were not nominated (he could do this if he were nominated too, but at least then they'd still have Roddy on the block and he'd be less likely to use it).

In any case, I think that Dani and Amy and ALL of them, including Chiara, have way over estimated Roddy's loyalty and concern for Chiara. They have hardly noticed what we've been seeing for weeks: Roddy purposely blowing competitions in which he could help or protect Chiara, Roddy strongly implying that he "understands" if people nominate Chiara, etc.