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Jaysgal

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL, Moedog. Did he actually say that? I am laughing my butt in a pitiful way. He actually admitted to all of that? :Q

Moedog

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jaysgal, Milesquade re-posted it (couple of pages back) from LFP, July 17, 2002, 3.21 am, posted by Angelsluv

Roddy sure couldn't float my boat. ; )

Tracy

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 11:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Everytime I think of a brilliant insightful point to make in this thread, WCV beats me to it <grrr>. Guess I'll just keep lurking (and enjoying).

Snogrl

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 11:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wcv, you expressed my sentiments toward Roddy far more eloquently than I could.

Nermal

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 11:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Moedog, I heard Roddy say most of those things. He was JOKING. I promise you. Those things were said in jest.

I am not a Roddy fan and don't like most of what he does, but still want to set the record straight on this.

Moedog

Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 12:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Here's the entire post:

From LFP: Angelsluv
Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 03:21 am

Cam #3
Josh passed out sleeping
Cam #4
HOH- Lisa and someone are asleep

Cam's #1&2
Roddy and Char still babbling..

Roddy says that it must be about 6am in NY (he was right!) and that his family must be watching this and his wife is pissed that he's in bed with her!! (still on the ?married joke).

Every single girlfriend except one that he dated a year ago all cheated on him. Saying that he is very possessive and he thinks that's the highest form of caring is to posses someone.

When Char was young, she dated someone who totally possessed her. She felt stuck and in a cage. She realized that she couldn't handle being like that but stayed in the relationship. She wants someone possessing her but not obsessive.

Roddy says that if they date outside of the house that he would be a control freak, even to the point of checking her bills and checkbook. That she will have a pager only for him and that when he pages her, she's got 4 minutes to call him.

That he will demand her to do certain things, wear what he wants her to wear, his ordering in a resturant what she eats.. ..

*K, Completely M/s relationship he wants and she loves the entire idea*

He tells her that this will prove to her how much he cares for her for doing all this for her..

She is saying that she has never cared so much for anyone like she does him.

Now into afew minutes of sexual demands, etc.. (Not going there on this thread)

Cher says that Roddy is giving the "net" too much info
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Roddy may have begun joking about "the wife", but I have to doubt that his talking about all of his girlfriends who cheated on him was said in a joking manner. Chiara's response seems to bear that out. He may have started joking again when he got to the sexual demands (or maybe not), but possibly the parts in between are the ones you missed since you said you heard him say "most" of those things. I don't doubt for a minute that you believe what you heard was joking, Nermal, but perceptions differ greatly one from another. I think his actions in the house and his interactions with Chiara since then show his true character, and I think he is serious about being possessive and controlling. Sorry to be so contrary.

I'll be heading out of town in the morning (through Saturday) so I won't be here to celebrate Roddy leaving the house (with most of you)... so enjoy yourselves! I'll be watching the shows. Goodnight and take care y'all!

Sia

Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 05:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy is not my favorite houseguest; in fact, he's my second-least-favorite (right behind Chiora), but I'm willing to give him a break: could he possibly be doing the over-kill on how controlling he would be in a relationship in order to scare off Chiora? I mean, it's pretty obvious that she isn't his cup of tea. He admits that she's physically attractive, but that's about the only appeal Chiara has for RoDDy, and he seems to be distancing himself from her. Isn't it possible that he's trying to make himself unattractive to her so she will dump him first--sort of prevent her from pulling a "Fatal Attraction" on him later?

Roddy is cunning, manipulative, and I really dislike him, but I don't think he is trying to deliberately hurt Chiara; he's just using her every way he can to get ahead (and that's WRONG, & is one reason I dislike him). He surely knows that her feelings will be deeply hurt when she finds out he just needed her help & cooperation to advance himself in the game & that he doesn't have "feelings" for her like she appears to have for him, but he seems to have been careful in his DR pieces to make it look like he is a caring, wonderful guy. (See, he believes his own PR!)

I just think Roddy's finally starting to be more honest/direct with Chiara by telling her that her behavior is embarrassing to him; she will be able to look back & see that she had some warnings from him--if she will own up to her mistakes & accept responsibility for what she said & did while in the house.

Llkoolaid

Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 05:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't care for Chiara but: I see Roddy as a control freak and in this relationship I see Chiara as an abuse victim. He is constantly putting her down and she always turns it on herself and says she deserves it. If he doesn't want her then get to hell out of her bed. He is prostituting himself for her vote in the end.

Bbholden

Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 05:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think they're all just following an unstructured script. I think the winner was decided before the houseguests arrived or were even chosen.

Let's see, the last winner of a reality show was Vecepia, black, female, yep, it worked for Survivor, it should work for BB3.

They have it all covered, and just in case female goes out of vogue they can sub Marcellas since their Firefighter Hero was voted out.

Bigsister

Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 06:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with those who say that BOTH Roddy and Chiara are deeply flawed people, and I don't see that there is any victim or any villian in the relationship. They are both trying to make the best they can of a stressful and trying experience (surviving in the BB house), and in that sense they are each using the other.

The one thing that mystifies me is why Roddy would tell Chiara that in their outside-the-house life he will be a controlling SOB. Why would he tell her that??? Usually in that early stage of a relationship, both parties are doing their best to make a good impression. You would think he would know that would be a turnoff. The only thing I can think of is that he was just as clueless as she was if she thought he would appreciate her provocative and lewd behavior.

Draco

Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 06:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bigsister - I agree that the house and the game are definitely distorting everything between them. How can anyone have a "normal" (if there is such a thing!) relationship in this environment? I think the comments about R being controlling were meant as a joke.

Babyruth

Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 06:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wcv...you owe me a new keyboard!!! There's coffee everywhere! My God, you're hilarious...

Also want to say that I totally agree with your posts following that one, about Roddy and Chiara. Come to think of it, I find myself agreeing with many of your posts (and enjoying them all, regardless of agreement--I like the way you write).

You rock.

Wcv63

Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 06:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know Draco. This conversation was held right around the same time frame as the "swinging" and "open relationship" discussion which Chiara brought up. Although Roddy liked the idea, Chiara insisted it would only work if the other party was fully informed.

They are both bizarre people with bizarre ideas and they live in a bizarre world where bizarre beliefs are the norm. Do you really doubt they don't really just have really bizarre aspects to their characters?

Draco

Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 06:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wcv - I agree completely. They are both bizarre in different respects and so different from one another. It's interesting to see such different people connecting when they probably would never do so outside of the game....

Wcv63

Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 07:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Babyruth!

Draco-As I said I have such a huge bias against Roddy that I don't like anything he does anymore. I recognize it and I OWN it!! :)

Carolm

Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 10:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Delilah & Roddy fans,
Congrats looks like Roddy is staying. I kinda think they should just hand him the money now.
LOL Last year I was a Will Fan and lots were against him....... Now you got to give us credit as we were so close to getting Roddy out LOL

Wcv63

Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 10:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't believe that Dani would so stupidly cave in like that and reveal Jason as being part of her alliance. She completely and thoroughly screwed up and I am so disppointed in her. I thought she was playing well and she just stumbled big time.

All she had to do was avoid Amy this morning. That's all. So close.

Dani lost focus and it is going to cost her. Big time.

Zachsmom

Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 11:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Carolm!! I won't hold your distaste of Roddy against you..since you were a Will fan last year..:)

Delilah

Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 11:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, what Z said

..... Delilah will not gloat.......

Carolm

Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 11:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
hmmm looking close at the face.... :) Looks like a gloat to me ROFL