Roddy has convinced them not to play the game..
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Gentoo

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 09:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, you guys just made Roddy my favourite player.

From what I'm hearing, he's doing a fantastic job in there or manipulating his way to the top and turning the others into his sheeple. I'm impressed with him.

He is playing the game well, and seems to have derailed all the others from doing so. And for all those here who think the others are just mental midgets for being under his spell, I think you should hold your tongue until you yourself come up against it and see past it.

I look forward to watching him win (although I'm still not entirely convinced that he will).

What555456

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It seems to me what Roddy is really doing is using the HG's own lies and manipulations against them. If they had not lied so much he would not be able to manipulate them. I think what they do bothers each of them because they are basically good people, but they excuse their own behavior as necessary to play the game.

Roddy knows that each has made many promises -- both to him and to others. So, when push comes to shove, he throws these promises back in their faces -- makes them admit to them (even if only in their own mind) and he makes it a matter of personal integrity. He then plays on the good side in each of them, the side that does not like what they have to do in this game. So, he forces them to either admit to themselves they have no personal integrity (something no one wants to do) or go along with him.

Of course, he picks and chooses which promises he throws back at them. But that is part of his methodology.

C1mag

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
He has convinced them that this is real life and society will judge there integrity if they dare to play the game based on the rules which includes lying. In the end, if someone even questions the deals he has made he will simply double talk his way out by saying... I never promised anyone a final 2 spot just a chance at the end, or he will say that everyone makes mistakes. He isn't allowing them to recognize that this is a game with specific rules. It's both creepy and sad too watch. There is still a slim chance that there will be a revolt but he will fight like hell to stay in that house.

Oregonfire

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ha ha, "sheeple." Good one Gentoo.

Bigd

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Don't you think if any of the evited houseguests are *smart* enough to get the live feeds, or read the live feed posts that they will begin to alter their perception of Roddy (for the worse, of course). I mean no one really wanted Will to win last year since they didn't like him, but their perceptions must have changed at some point since he won.

Willkirby

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What jobs has Roddy held in his life? Bartender and broker. Both rely on seducing, schmoozing, and manipulating others. He's a pro! He's so good at it that he got them to call him a "writer."

Wcv63

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Willkirby...he's got them calling him a "screenwriter" even after telling them that pop culture and movie knowlege is too boring for him to bother with.

C1mag

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I've actually wondered if the evicted are paying close attention as well. I know Tonya said her bf is an internet addict. Eric says they play on line at the firehouse all the time. Although they may have issues with the other players if they are paying close attention and realize how cruel he is playing this game they may decide not to give him the money. After all Eric said to Lisa he was more than ready to lie in order to get further in the game. He knows that it's allowed. Just because Roddy has told them it shouldn't be doesn't mean they can't. To throw someones integrity up durring a game where lying is allowed is a major mind f_ck and especially when you are busy doing it. So far since they are not breaking their word to him he looks like the only big liar in the house. I'd laugh if they all came back and made a fool out of him come the night of the finals. I still say that he has played a cruel and vicious game.

Bigd

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
For myself, last year I didn't like Will at all, then I got the live feeds and did a 180. This year, I initially liked Roddy the best, and as I watched the live feeds I did a 180.

Of course this same thinking has caused me to believe that if they saw the live feeds they would be ashamed of their behaviour (taking such delight in trashing him behind his back) toward Gerry, so what do I know?????

Wcv63

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1Mag and Bigd I agree with you both.

Aria

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think its time to bump this thread back to the top.

After watching Roddy in action with Jason in the HOH tonight I am even more repulsed by Roddy tactics in this game. Everytime Roddy's credibility is questioned in this game, he turns the conversation around with the tack "how could you question my intentions?", "haven't I always looked out for you", or the classic "yeah I knew Kiki was going to tell you that, I asked her not to".

Truly it is fascinating to watch him in action. I noticed again tonight that when he is cornered, he is inititially like a deer caught in the headlights. His pallor is pale, his eyes gloss over and cycle side to side while he decides on a strategy to turn the situation around. But then a transformation happens, he regains focus and goes for the throat.

I was astounded at how quickly he turned Jason's question of "did you say I can't be trusted" to "you lied to me about your vote for eric, you are the only liar here Jason, how can you even ask me that?"

Amazing. I felt sorry for Jason. He was way out of his league with this guy.

I just hope that Jason can see his way to realize that he went in that house for one reason only - to play a a game and come out $500,000 richer.

Observerx

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy just told Marc that Dani told her that Gerry told Dani that Rod said to him that "putting him (Roddy) on Big Brother was like putting Crocodile Dundee on Survivor". hehehe

In other words...

Roddy Quote: "Putting me on Big Brother is like putting Crocodile Dundee on Survivor".

Per Gerry to Dani to Amy to Marc... :)

Theo17

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
could have easily said putting the rest of these idiots on big brother is like putting jerry springer guest on jepardy. I'm so angry at how stupid they are. I get the feeling they could nominate roddy the next 4 weeks and he could still spin his way free.

Snee

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
aria: 'Truly it is fascinating to watch him in action. I noticed again tonight that when he is cornered, he is inititially like a deer caught in the headlights. His pallor is pale, his eyes gloss over and cycle side to side while he decides on a strategy to turn the situation around. But then a transformation happens, he regains focus and goes for the throat.'

i saw exactly that! then he just worked jason over. jason did say at one point that he didn't like the way roddy was using his (j's) emotions to get to him....and then...then...he let himself get completely sucked in. NO 500K FOR YOU!

Aria

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Snee! I'm glad I wasn't the only one who saw that. I watched the tape again just to be sure. He had the same look on his face when Eric was evicted and before the fight with Josh. He may not be my favorite but he sure is entertaining.

Spunky

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, Aria, it was like watching David and Goliath..and boy the tv show editors sure know how to do that...did you see how poor Jason couldn't counterbalance what Roddy was saying... until he, contrary to David, buckled and saved Goliath... it's the Bible rewritten...