Archive through July 27, 2002
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Archive through July 27, 2002
Goddess146 | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 06:23 pm     6:22 and four feeds on Amy and Marc in the back yard. Must not be anything interesting going on in the house. |
Mssilhouette | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 08:01 pm     Well after enjoying the crappy feeds for 14 days with the commericals and FOTH. I called Real and cancelled. Paying 10 bucks a month for that crap was WAY too much for me. Plus I wasn't really watching enough to even bother paying for it. I'll stick with the live feed postings. |
Goddess146 | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 09:58 pm     Gritss: Do you really believe that any sponsor would ignore 5000 emails? |
Cajunrambler | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 10:02 pm     "Do you really believe that any sponsor would ignore 5000 emails?" In a heartbeat! Tomorrow is the last day of my 14 day trial and will probably cancel. |
Goddess146 | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 10:59 pm     It looks like they have entirely given up on four feeds. Each time I looked tonight, all four feeds have been on the same scene. |
Bigbrotherbelle | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 12:09 am     CBS and AS, I don't like the way these people act. Can we please have new ones? |
Aussiedeb | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 12:21 pm     I just cancelled my subscription to Real One, the guy was super nice about it too. Told him I know its CBS' fault and he said yes he has had lots of complaints and just got off the phone from someone else with the same thing. Told him I was sick of FOTH and the porno aspect, he said he understands fully. |
Webrover99 | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 12:29 pm     As someone who has watched for three years I will tell you that complaining will do no good. That is the reason I didn't bother with the feeds this year...........too frustrating. |
Goddess146 | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 10:06 pm     All four feeds on same scene most of the night. |
Tabbyking | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 10:15 pm     aussie, i canceled the other day and i had to wait on hold for over 20 minutes. seems a lot of people were canceling. when i mentioned the porn atmosphere, the lady said, "i have heard that a lot!" maybe if everyone canceled, they would make a true big brother, not a scripted, hand-picked crew. (for the most part, each of these people were approached to be on the show. of all the houseguests, i think only dani and lori truly entered legitimately, the others were approached by bb staff to be on the show.) give us a true BB show, not an arnie shapiro production. |
Oregonfire | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 10:36 pm     Yup, Marcie and Amy-cam on all four feeds at the moment. They have given up any pretense of having more than one convo at once for the time being. Why? I still don't understand. Someone please explain it to me. |
Chancesdesign | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 10:37 pm     I never thought it would happen, but I think I am to the point of cancelling. I loved the live feeds for the last two years. This year they mostly SUCK! All the cuts to the front of the house, duplicate feeds and missed conversations are getting to me. The fact that CBS can't figure out how to go to another camera when they HAVE to and end up going FOTH on all four feeds is the last straw. Also, Marci and Amy are the only houseguests that I both like and find amusing. Once they are gone there won't be anything worth watching anyway. |
Goddess146 | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 10:58 pm     An email I sent ASP Productions: ===== To: aspproductions@aol.com From: goddess_146@seductive.com Subject: A modest sgguestion for the BB3 Live feeds Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 00:53:53 -0500 I have a modest suggestion for the BB3 live feeds. I am sure you realize that the entire Internet audience is fed up with the way the feeds are being handled this year: The top issues being: 1) FOTH for most of the contests. I realize that you are rehearsing and re-taking most of the contents. I have seen the type of mistakes that these people make during the live shows. I know they must be making the same type of mistakes during those FOTHed contests. I do not think you realize how much we would enjoy seeing the actual action and then the edited version on TV. Seeing how professional producers can put things together would impress not distress us. 2) FOTH whenever BB speaks. How can we get a real sense of the BB experience if we are not allowed to see and hear the actual experience. 3) FOTH for singing. I understand the copyright issues. I understand the HGs need to sign. You could give them and your live feed censors a list of public domain songs that they could sing. Dixie is a perfect example of a song Amy wanted to sing and has no copyright issues. 4) FOTH on all four feeds when something happens on one of the scenes. Why not just cut the feed with the problem? Can you not afford the staff to properly handle the feeds? 5) We bought four live feeds. Much of the time the four feeds are on exactly the same scene. Feed 1 and Feed 2 are always exactly the same. You never have more than two scenes showing. Can you not afford the staff to properly handle the feeds? 6) Cutting away from interesting conversations to show a boring conversation. 7) FOTH when the HGs talk about about the interview process, their "handlers," Diary Room conversations, the producers, etc. Once again, how can we get the true BB experience if you do not show these things? Most of the time when you FOTH on things like this and above, the information you do not want us to hear has already been broadcast. All of these things make us Internet viewers feel we are getting screwed. We paid for things we are not getting. You are hiding things and we know what you are hiding. When you have all four feeds on the same scene get the feeling you are just too cheap to hire enough staff to run four feeds. If you looked at the Internet sites and live feeds of the BB shows around the world, you would realize just how badly you are treating us. My suggestion is that your replace the FOTH censor shot with a still photo of Arnold Shapero giving the finger. Doing this would be a honest reflection of Arnold's attitudes towards us. Thank You, Ellen |
Bastable | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 11:06 pm     LOVE the last paragraph, Goddess! LOL! That Shapiro is indeed slick as a sewer eel. Of course, I know what he'll say. He'll say we agree to an edited live feed each time we click "I agree" at the login. Lawyers ruin everything worth having. Might I also suggest you send it to CBS itself? AS$ is liable not to give complaints to his employers. |
Draheid | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 11:07 pm     Goddess146: One tiny little problem with your letter...these guys have NO CLUE what FOTH means...Ok, they probably have no clue about a lot of things, but I'll bet they scratch their heads over your letter.... |
Crossfire | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 11:08 pm     Wowie! Bravo. |
Oregonfire | Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 02:26 am     Here I am again, FOTH on all fours, the monster that it is. Have they turned off the feeds for the night? Can they DO that? This is amazing. I wonder if people are doing "private" things in there. Or is the bashing of the BB DR contining? Maybe that discussion turned into something bigger. |
Erina75 | Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 09:04 am     Goddess....excellent letter, and I especially LOVED the last few lines...that was priceless..LOLOLOL!!! But I was also thinking about the FOTH thing. Do you think they will know what you are refering to? I don't think it takes a lot of brains to figure it out even if you've never heard it before...especially considering how you used it in your letter...I guess they'll get it. LOL, I guess I just answered my own question! |
Flyonthwall | Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 09:21 am     Dear Arnold TP, It has come to my attenteeeyon that BB is really starting to GOPN! AS you know WATVCH are S&T of the FOTH!! At least show us the LR, WC, or HRD for gosh sakes! We don't enjoy the LC and would really appreciate rats in there since they go better with the TOTS! We know you DGAS but at least you could ALYC!!!! I mean for COL you would think since we're PFLF!! Just think about it AS and we'll TL8R. Thanks for the comunicashioooounnnn. Roddy's mother. Chart reference: TP: The pig GOPN: get on peoples nerves WATVCH:Watchers at TVCLubhouse S&T: sick and tired FOTH: Front of the house LR: living room WC: water closet bathroom HRD: High rent distric LC: Lizard cam TOTS: this openly trashy show DGAS: Don't give a Sh** ALYC: Act like you care! COL: Cryin out loud PFLF: paying for Live feeds TL8R: talk later |
Bigfan | Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 09:26 am     Good letter Goddess! It would appear to me that the only people that BigBrother is treating like BigBrother should is the internet people. We are apart of the house by way of payment of fee but we are not given freedom of movement about the house. This is called a Reality Show but its got so much editing that we might as well call it "Friends of Big Brother". It is around 11:00 am Central time here and I have 3 shots of Roddy and Kiki asleep in the HOH and Gerry asleep outside on a lawn chair. What's the use in having a million cameras in a house when you only give use of 2. Well, I guess I have shared my negitive point for the day, guess I'll be good for the remainder. |
Bohawkins | Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 09:30 am     Goddess.. that was a good letter. But, I am thinking that Shapiro might answer: "We have the number one rated (number two when Friends is on) tv show in the country right now, so whatever we are doing is working. The feeds are not what gives us our main revenue, it's advertisement, and the way we are doing everything (including the feeds) is working to give us our top ratings." Yes, in the world of business, if it ain't broke, you don't fix it. It is all about ratings in the tv game. |
Scorpiomoon | Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 09:33 am     Fly: Too funny!!!! |
Erina75 | Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 09:39 am     Yeah and how much do you wanna bet that out of the 3 feeds that are on KiKi and Roddy that if they woke up and started to talk about something interesting or started to get close physically...all 3 of those feeds would find someone brushing their teeth...Oooooo....I just wanna ring someones neck.... |
Catbowl | Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 10:12 am     Bo...but we know about the Subway sandwiches already. I was so tempted by them eating em...that I went right out to buy one and then when I came home to sit down and eat it while I enjoyed watching them....errrrr...FOTH. I felt so lonely eating my SUBWAY sandwich. |
Piratesbay | Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 10:57 am     I don't get it. I know it's Arnie's show. He can do whatever he wants, but why is he keeping interested viewers so far from interacting with the show. We are the reason that the show is popular. Hence, the word, popular. The people that watch the show are the reason that it's making him any cash. In return for that he shows his gratitude by letting us vote on EXERCISE EQUIPMENT? (sorry, I am trying to suppress my passion on this issue...but it's tough...) Yet, he allows BB3 to manipulate the contestants by repeating what the others say about HGs and we don't get to hear the DR entries? I hate the way that BB3 has put such anti-viewer regulations on the live feeds. I hate it. |
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