Who is more deceiving will or roddy?
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Who is more deceiving will or roddy?
Hillbilly | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 11:44 pm     ..it seems to me that rodster is more intent in pointing out how patient he has been with folks even though they have tried him to no end...mind i'm talkin about his actions not tryin to destroy his character...but he seems to try to make em feel ashamed or guilty fer stuff they's really hasn't done or that isn't really bad... i's jest don't remember will doin that kind of stuff..in fact i's remember thinkin will had the patience of Job when hardy and nicole were bein so mean to him and bunky...but will kept his mouth shut and said nary a word...he didn't try any emotional manipulation less'n i's jest missed it... |
Emo1979 | Friday, August 23, 2002 - 11:50 pm     Will was an ass, but a lovable ass. He hilariously mocked everything, including himself, in the diary room and just let everyone else more or less self-destruct. He was only really being annoying to the HG, and so he only had the irritation factor against him, not the "threat to win" factor. He was not emotionally manipulative, it seemed to me. I never got the feeling that much of anything Will did was a calculated manipulation, and with Roddy, 90% of the things he does seem that way to me. Roddy is just too damn self-assured and egotistical, ESPECIALLY in the diary room. He always tries to seem so non-judgemental and evenhanded when talking to "us" and it's a total crock. At least Will was honest to us about how big an ass he was! ;) I really see Danielle as more "Will-esque" than Roddy, at least based on her DR vs. house behavior, though I think she's too serious about actually winning to succeed. It just came to me - it seems like BB3 is an icky combination of BB1 and BB2 - they have the trashy personalities and behavior of BB2, but it seems to me that hardly anyone has much of a spine and no one wants to really take any gameplaying risks, much like BB1. |
Fabnsab | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:03 am     Let me just add that at this point last year, we all loved Will for his evil ways. He started out being the most hated houseguest and turned into our cute Dr. Evil. Not too many people on this board have softened up to Roddy yet and I do not see it happening. By this observation, I would say Will is more deceiving because he fished in the most important, least gullible people on the world-us. |
Theo17 | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:05 am     will was even an ahole but honest in his speech. he basically said I conned you all. roddy will never admit to amything. He will be clintonesque. He will say i'm sorry i let others dictate the way I played the game sometimes. |
Snee | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:17 am     'i did not have intellectual manipulations with these people.' |
Bernie | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 02:31 am     Snee |
Oregonfire | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 02:46 am     I always liked Will's hilarious DR entries. So funny with that devilish smile. With Roddy, we get that so obviously fake frozen smile and a few meaningless platitudes. He is so transparent and I feel like he thinks we, the viewing audience, are complete morons. Maybe his DRs aren't intended for us, but whatever. |
Realtvfan | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 06:43 am     Roddy's ways just remind me too much of Clinton. "It depends on what the definition of is is." When Nicole went back to bed the day after that infamous waterbed competition banner, (on the feeds, not on TV) it was "Dr Evil" who stopped playing the game for a half a day to sit with Nicole and just talk with her. It was also "Dr Evil" who did the compassinate thing by completely keeping his mouth shut about the hot tub incident. Yes Dr Evil was, at times, personally unecessarily (beyond the gamesmanship) unkind toward Bunky and others, but he more than made up for it with his handling of the hot tub/banner situation. I just do not see Roddy able to recognize situations and act in the best interest of someone other than himself at a time when someone else may need it. |
Gentoo | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 09:26 am     Roddy is being as he is in the DR to keep his sheeple in line once they escape the house. They all get access to the tapes of the show and the DR entries (All they need to do is have friends on the outside tape them for them). Of course he keeps up his manipulation and doesn't admit he's an ass. Unlike Will, Roddy's admitting he's an ass would destroy him. |
Emo1979 | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 09:43 am     I see your point Gentoo - but I still believe Roddy is incapable of admitting it, anyway. :D It seems to me that he's said a awful lot of things outside of the DR that the other HG won't really like if they get aired. (Danielle's "make a wish" foundation comment and some of his own actions that he's blamed on other people) so one would think if he his strategy was to "keep his sheep in line" he would have avoided saying those things, too. I just think he's a manipulative egomaniac! When he's in the DR, he's telling us (and any evicted HG) what we want to hear, and when he's talking to another HG in the house he's telling them what they want to hear and hoping never the twain shall meet. I just don't think he's capable of not doing that. ;) And that's what makes me not like him. |
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