What will Eric's reaction be to Lisa voting Amy back into the house?
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What will Eric's reaction be to Lisa voting Amy back into the house?
Mr_Bozack | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 08:37 pm     In spite of the fact that Big Brother is a game show, it's real life. Those people are really living that reality right now. It's life. They would've never met each other otherwise. Love must definitely be tested, but her keeping her soul-mate out is a failing grade on that section of the test. It may not cost her her relationship, but it's a hell of a gamble to make. |
Lurknomore | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 08:46 pm     Ok, let's all take a time out then think back. The very first thing out of Eric's mouth to Roddy, when E/L were both nominated was (and I think this was close to accurate) "hey if she has to go she has to go." Seeing that Lisa could feel as betrayed as Eric might by Lisa not voting for him. That said, from they way they spoke to each other, THEY seemed to be able to separate their relationship from the game. I think that's why many of here feel that it was by far the most sincere budding real hookup of any BB couple ever. Now, it THEY have no problems with this, some one tell me why we all should? |
Wcv63 | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 09:02 pm     Mr_B: Lisa was distracted from the game. She emerged as a totally different player since Eric left the house. She voiced her fears that being coupled with Eric distracted her and dulled her competitive edge. Also Lurknomore makes an excellent point. They, on more than one occassion, spoke of game play and relationship as two different events. |
Mr_Bozack | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 09:06 pm     Then you gotta give it up to Eric for knowing that she'd never see the master plan though to the end and that he'd be the better of the two to hold the course and maintain so they'd all be sipping champagne on the final night. He knew that, given the chance to do the right thing, instead she'd stick that knife in his heart and twist it around a few times. Now what hasn't been touched on is, if Lisa was on the outside, and Eric had the chance to vote her back in, what do you think he would do? I think he'd do the right thing. And trust me, if he didn't vote for her to return, I'd crucify him as much as I do Lisa for not voting for her man to return. Why should we? Why...for love over money of course. |
Draheid | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 09:11 pm     The way I see it is this: Lisa wants to win $500,000 (or at least have a good shot at it) She can't afford to be distracted, considering that she's already up against pretty high odds of winning, therefore she chose to focus on the game and postpone the dance lessons until she's out. Eric wants to try out the belly-button bossonova with a little informal impromptu greeting thrown in for good measure. He has already waited 5-6 weeks and has been given a little 'hint' at what's in store for him if he chooses to wait a little longer, which I think he will do. Nobody knows for sure, but I think there's a chance, it's just going to take a little patience and understanding on both of their parts. JMO - FWIW |
Mr_Bozack | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 09:20 pm     Oh come on Wcv63. Distracted from the game? She became distracted when Eric left...when she had to think for herself. She realized that was scarry territory for her to visit, and she got out of there pretty quickly. She can't beat either Roddy or Danielle without someone to align herself with, and Eric would've been her ultimate partner and the one she could trust the most. I know even if she voted Eric, Amy would still be there, but it was a secret vote. She didn't know what the outcome would be. Consider this scenario: Final three: Roddy, Eric and Lisa. You're Eric. Who would you rather be in the final two with: Roddy or Lisa? Before you all say he'd choose Roddy, consider this: If it's Eric and Roddy, and Roddy wins, Eric gets no dough. BUT if it's Eric and Lisa, and Lisa wins, well yes, it's Lisa's money, but you now have a girlfriend with $500,000, and if you're soul-mates, that still doesn't entitle you to any money, but she's bound to treat you to a trip, maybe a car, at least lots of flights and nice dinners, maybe she'll take you shopping for some Armani suits? Therefore, if it's Eric, Lisa and Roddy in the final two, Eric and Lisa could guarantee one of the two of them wins something. Besides, if she wasn't so dingy, she could've quickly done the math in her head, realized that Eric wasn't getting in anyway based on votes, and voted for Eric just to look good to him and the rest of America...she's going to catch so many dirty looks from people when she get's back to work as a waitress for not voting for him. Isn't that a better strategy for Lisa? How does the game play itself out for her now? |
Twistedsis | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 09:29 pm     Mr_Bozack how about we agree to dissagree and you can stop posting just to read them yourself. |
Wcv63 | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 09:39 pm     Mr_B I certainly hope that you are not insinuating that Lisa can not think for herself and needs a man to provide the guidance necessary to pave the way to a win. Because if it is I believe this will be the end of our beautiful friendship. I just can't tolerate chauvinism even at its most benign. It smacks of scumbaggery. |
Mr_Bozack | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 09:58 pm     Well before you cast that stone Wcv63, let me point out that I never said she needs a man to do her thinking for her, just someone else, and right now, that's Danielle. I'll have you know I consider myself a feminist in the truest sense of the word, and treat all women that come into my life as the equals they are. After all, I'm sitting in on a Saturday night debating respectfully on a board that's made up predominantly with women because I want to share my opinion with you all. Or no? Twistedsis: Post something for me to read then. You came back. Where did I say you have to agree with me? |
Minnyace01 | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:09 am     Mr. B - I happen to agree with you, but then again, we're both male, so that probably doesn't count. No matter what he says on the interview, I think that there will be problems over the fact that she didn't vote to bring him back when she sees him face to face. |
Woofy | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:30 am     I'll bet the thought "Maybe I won't get laid 'on the outside'" went thorough his mind ... even if but for a second |
Mr_Bozack | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:33 am     Thanks Minnyace01. I swear to God, I'm shocked that the overwhelming majority of those I was talking to last night felt that keeping her self-described soul-mate out is a better strategy for her in the game; especially when I presented my case (which I thought was thorough and without hostility towards any of the other posters) and admitted when I thought another poster made a good point that I couldn't argue with. Word of warning though, watch your step with that opinion on this board. You're libel to be suspected of being a misogynist and it'll be hinted at that you may be ranked no higher than a used condom. In the words of my man ill Dr. Will from last year's Big Brother..."NICE!!!" (He knew the meaning of love as well.) August 24th, 2002 is the day that love died on this board. Peace bro. |
Spunky | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:34 am     "I understand you babe!! Thank you for making me see how I wad duped by Roddy... you had every right to play the game without my distractions." |
Wcv63 | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:42 am     Mr_B....did the love die? LOL Actually I went to go watch the show that was preempted in my market and ending up falling asleep. I'll accept that you are a feminist if you accept that your assessment of Lisa came off as just a tad patronizing. Certainly I never called you a mysogynist...just made a simple inquiry regarding your somewhat inflammatory post. Peace, love and happiness and equality to all.  |
Goddessatlaw | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:51 am     I can see both sides of the argument on Good Lisa/Bad Lisa for failing to vote to bring Eric back in the house. I liked the decision for one reason: it's the only decision I've seen made in the house that had any amount of balls to it. Clearly a move against personal interest, clearly a move to promote her advancement in the game. Particularly after Roddy has sat around reminding her how he got sold up the river when she stayed and Eric left. Who got sold up the river? Roddy and Eric were perfectly content to let a GIRL step up to the plate and take it for the home team. Lisa sussed this out almost immediately, and took moves designed to ensure her "allies" didn't have a chance to send her to the slaughter again. She's the only one in that house that has balls and knows how to use them. Everyone else has theirs in someone else's pocket. She may not have more balls than a pool hall, but she's got more than the rest of the house combined. |
Mr_Bozack | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:11 am     Wcv63: Thanks for the clarification. I was kind of hurt for a minute. I was really enjoying our discussion. Hope you had a good sleep. ;) I'll admit that probably came off as a tad patronizing towards Lisa. She just INFURIATES me and I get so worked up over her poor strategizing and for turning her back on her soul-mate. As a guy, that would HURT. I once had (who I thought was) my soul-mate turn her back on me and leave what we were working to create, and to see her do the same thing (admittedly to a much lesser degree than my situation) brings up all kinds of painful memories. Displaced anger on my part. Yes, a bit. But it appears to be the role she chose for herself. Question: Did you fall asleep before or after Lisa admitted she voted for Chiara (which she regretted) because Danielle told her to? |
Mr_Bozack | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:28 am     Goddessatlaw: Jason's got probably the biggest balls in the house right now. He looked out for probably the most feared player in the house (and rightfully so as the attacks on him weren't accurate), in spite of the fact it went against the wishes of his homie-stromie Danielle, who now has an excuse to go after him. That was a great moment. Very moving. But back to the topic at hand... I agree though, Lisa has some pretty big balls (or in her case eggs???) to not vote for her soul-mate. I don't agree that it helps her, but her balls were definitely swingin' fast and furious that night. And why should the fact that a girl went up even matter? A guy from the couples alliance went first. None of the men cried foul. Even if Eric went before Lori, would anyone be crying foul? Chiara was still there. |
Wcv63 | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:35 am     Mr_B, I fell asleep in the first 5 minutes. Believe me I was distressed to find out that I missed the whole show! Lisa had the option to vote either way. They even discussed whether to give Chiara the 2 votes she was asking for. Lisa may find it convenient to blame Dani...perhaps that's part of her strategy. |
Goddessatlaw | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:37 am     On topic - I disagree that none of the guys cried foul - Roddy's been crying foul, and Josh got kicked out over it if I remember correctly (I'm not warranting that I do remember correctly). Off-topic, I disagree about Jason - he is the runt of the litter. His balls are in Roddy's pocket after Jason whizzed himself in Roddy's superior, alpha presence. Jason was more afraid of the ramifications of whizzing off Roddy, whether or not Roddy managed to stay in the house, than the ramifications of whizzing off Dani. But, this is all personal perspective - yours and mine are different. Having said that, I hope Lisa and Eric do couple up outside of the house after she wins - they do seem to be a good match. |
Chipster | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:52 am     Yes, the house is balless. As evidenced by each and every one of them admitting out loud that Roddy was the biggest threat (three weeks running) and not voting him out- not even nominating him this week. And, then, we have to see Jason bawling over being such a great guy as to look after his friend. His "friend" will run over his dumb a*s in a NY minute as soon as he can. Un be leiv able !!! |
Mr_Bozack | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:54 am     Wcv63: Yes, ultimately, she made the choice...to do Danielle's bidding. Maybe she'll try to turn it around on Danielle in the future (which I wouldn't mind), but in the DR room, she said she was upset with herself for not voting the way she wanted to (which would be voting for Roddy instead of Chiara). What's f-ed is Danielle tells everyone to vote Chiara, and then SHE votes Roddy. Can't figure that one out. Goddessatlaw: Roddy cried foul that Eric was voted out because he's male and Josh got kicked out because Roddy cried foul? If I remember correctly, Josh went because he was a total head-job and made the foolish mistake of promising Roddy the two of them wouldn't campaign against one another--Roddy being smart enough to know that Josh wouldn't be able to keep from doing this and he'd be able to nail him on this to guarantee his survival. At lesat, that was how I remember it. I could be wrong as well. Off topic: I explained my opinion as to why Jason made the right decision in the "You don't understand Jason" thread, and I'll leave it at that. |
Wcv63 | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:55 am     I do not hear negative comments about Jason. I am oblivious to their presence here in this thread. Jason can do no wrong. Okay...rose colored glasses did the trick! |
Mr_Bozack | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:59 am     Word Wcv63, Jason can do no wrong...as seen in the last ten minutes of last night's show! ;) And that was definitely balls. Big, round, bowling-ball sized nutz. |
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