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Archive through August 26, 2002
Seamonkey | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:04 pm     Dani wants Amy's vote at the end (since she's quite sure Amy will be gone and she, Dani, will be in final two.. ) and she wants Lisa to vote against Amy, so that if Lisa is the other one in final two, Dani will get Amy's vote. Last week she got to be the only vote to keep Chiara.. again.. she's hoping to get Chiara's vote (of course hoping that the other one won't be Roddy) And again.. she bullied Lisa to vote against Chiara, so Chiara's not likely to vote for Lisa at the end... |
Wendo | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:06 pm     C1mag, yes, I do think Rod trusts Lisa, and it was all her own work. For sure. Dani needs to realize, Roddy will expose himself all on his own if he votes to evict Amy. However, I think what Dani's hoping for is to expose Roddy and keep Lisa safe in Roddy's eyes. Which, I don't think is necessary. All Lisa has to say is, I had to vote Gerry after he broke the tie and booted Eric. Dani needs to let Lisa work her own way. Let Roddy think she's going to boot Amy, so he votes Amy too. Then, in the end, Lisa votes Gerry out. That would be a good plan. Yes, it exposes Lisa to Roddy, but she can fall back on the Eric vote as her reason. This is what Dani needs to realize. She's overthinking this waaaay too much. This will be her downfall if she doesn't back off. |
Keiffer | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:08 pm     Danny should also be a bit careful about being so single minded in worrying about Roddy. I understand that he is good at the game, but most of them are (except Amy) that have made it this far. In my opnion getting Marcy and Amy split up before a two person vote alliance means too much happens. |
Goddessatlaw | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:10 pm     Well, Dani might be rounding up Lisa to do some of the dirty work, but the fact is I don't see anyone else even remotely considering what an alternative plan might be, including Lisa (who I want to win). More power to Dani for at least putting some effort into formulating a plan designed to serve all of their hineys. Unfortunately, it's exactly this kind of planning that's going to get Dani booted sooner than she'd like, since she's in bed with at least one person who does not have her interests at heart. |
C1mag | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:12 pm     Wendo I think we are both headed in the same direction... Dani just isn't gonna win this game and she probably won't be in that house much longer. It's another tough pill too swallow but she sorta did this too herself and she is just looking more and more like a loser rather than a winner. I'm still in her corner to get out Roddy but it's going right over her head that she needs to focus on who would be best to nominate him with. Marcellus and Roddy would be the only nomination that would evict him if she was hoh. She will not do that and trust Jason to do her bidding and he will put it off that he isn't going to evict Roddy over Amy until after pov. She comes up with too many variables that produce nothing and the answer was always right there in front of her. I hate to say it but she doesn't have what it takes to beat Roddy. |
Goddessatlaw | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:12 pm     I'm with you on that, Keiffer - it would seem a much more considered move to remove Amy this week and let Gerry, Roddy and Marc try to sort it out while Lisa and Dani focus on HOH and veto. |
Cameltoes | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:13 pm     This plan is absurd. Now, if she was actually trying to save Gerry and evict Amy that would be one thing. I said before she should cut a deal with Gerry whereby he would doublecross Roddy. However, if the plan is just to expose Roddy or make Roddy think Lisa is on his side, it's a waste of time. Roddy does trust Lisa enough to give her some information plus Roddy doesn't need to be exposed to anyone. Jason has been snowed. Time to forget about him and move on. I think Danielle will end up losing both Jason and Lisa as allies. Can you say unanimous vote to evict Danielle next week? |
C1mag | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:13 pm     Wendo I think we are both headed in the same direction... Dani just isn't gonna win this game and she probably won't be in that house much longer. It's another tough pill too swallow but she sorta did this too herself and she is just looking more and more like a loser rather than a winner. I'm still in her corner to get out Roddy but it's going right over her head that she needs to focus on who would be best to nominate him with. Marcellus and Roddy would be the only nomination that would evict him if she was hoh. She will not do that and trust Jason to do her bidding and he will put it off that he isn't going to evict Roddy over Amy until after pov. She comes up with too many variables that produce nothing and the answer was always right there in front of her. I hate to say it but she doesn't have what it takes to beat Roddy. She spends too much time calling him the devil and thinking she has too come up with this elaborate plan. She never stays calm. Not the way too play this game. There's too much time on her hands. |
Maris | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:13 pm     Lisa is not going to do the dirty work and vote out amy. She said that one Gerry did the veto which forced her to put Amy up and Lori went out and number two Gerry put up Eric and herself. No way she was going to keep him in the game and it would be more believable to Roddy if she voted Gerry out. So if Danni wants this plan she will have to go to Roddy herself. |
Keiffer | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:20 pm     That is a GREAT point Maris... Roddy is concerened about Danny right now because she never talks to him about the game in any real tersm. If she approached him with a plan to save Gerry on the sly perhaps then she could work something. The problem of course is that she is doing the same thing that people bash Roddy for doing, and that is using other people to do his work for him. I don't paticulary like Gerry, and do not want a person who plays mister magoo to win the game, but in real terms of playing the game this week the smart move for the voters is to evict Amy. If Danny didn't have such a thing for Roddy, and wasn't so overly concerned about him she might take a step back and see that Marcy and Amy together another week or two become a pretty important voting, and HoH alliance. Marcy is good at HoH, and Amy could get lucky. Given that I would not want those two tied at the hips for much longer. Maybe for all the bashing of Roddy he is playing the game in talking to Lisa about saving Gerry? Not being a scumbag. Besides of course Roddy trusts Lisa, and not for any great work on her part. She voted for him to stay, and is the last from a group he was in a long time ago. WHo else in that house could Roddy approach? |
C1mag | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:20 pm     This stupid plan just makes Dani look real bad. She may have just lost Lisa. I think it's actually insulting too Lisa. Dani just doesn't get it. She's trying too hard and exposing herself. Even Roddy doesn't stick on one person to evict. He plays week to week and he isn't running around whispering to someone to go and do something on his behalf "hoping" it works to his favor. He's actually forcing dani to go bonkers and yet it's just because he is in the house. Lisa needs to tell her to RELAX! |
Jaysgal | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:20 pm     I hope that Lisa is seeing Danielle's true colours. The whole Gerry deal does not make sense, unless she really is trying to save Gerry, contrary to her claim. I suspect that Danielle is trying to save Gerry. She doesn't need Gerry to strike a deal if she is so sure that he is leaving. Gerry doesn't need to know even for a deal, unless she is trying to win his vote for $500k. How does he telling Roddy of a deal help Lisa's interest? I think that it would make Roddy more suspicious. And Gerry would feel indebted to Roddy for having saved him from an eviction. Gerry would return Roddy a favour. It won't help Danielle at all. She needs to keep her mouth shut and think for a moment. She never seems to consider reprisals. I hope Lisa sees just how dumb Danielle is for assuming that others should be playing for Danielle's benefit only. So Lisa should suddenly make two enemies, Amy and Marcellas over someone who split her up from her supposed lover? That is the same Danielle that had Lisa turning against Chiara and forgetting that Gerry had put Lisa, Eric and her friends in the predicament in the first place. Chiara would not have had to choose had Gerry not made the choice that he did. I hope that Lisa goes by logic instead of loyalty and questions the motive of Danielle. |
Keiffer | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:24 pm     Great point Jaysgal... Danny was good at turning Lisa against Roddy and Chiara that she forgot that whole reason any of it happened was because of the Gerry nommination. |
C1mag | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:24 pm     Keiff it would work if it were you or I but we are talking about Dani. She refuses to throw Roddy a bone of phony hope. Jason has told Roddy that Dani is scared of him. I don't think he would buy it and in the end he would be able to twist it too his favor. If she was gonna try and play him she needed to do it weeks ago. She isn't built like that. She can't do her work herself and in the process she is just dragging herself closer and closer to that door. |
Cameltoes | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:25 pm     If Danielle wants to force a tie she should just vote Amy out herself. Instead of approaching Lisa and telling her what *she* should do, Danielle needs to make a stand on her own. If she told Lisa that she was going to vote Amy out and asked her to make Roddy think she (lisa) was wavering maybe Lisa wouldn't be so insulted. Then everyone might be left scratching their heads about the vote with Roddy thinking Lisa was useful to him. Danielle has outwitted herself with this same old crap. I'm ready to see her evicted at this point. |
C1mag | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:26 pm     In a way it's sorta sad watching Dani ruin her chances all on her own. It's not going to be bad luck if she ends up going out next week. Yes Jason screwed her but she screwed herself as well when she didn't jump at the chance too boot him long ago. |
Seamonkey | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:28 pm     Last week Dani concocted the story for Lisa to tell Amy, that she, LISA, really wanted to be the one to put Chiara out, so they should put Roddy out. That was lame, and Lisa didn't want to do it, but she did.. Hopefully she learned to listen to her own gut and heart and not Dani's mouth. |
C1mag | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:28 pm     Would it be too funny if Amy and Marcellus are the key too evicting Roddy? Now that would be funny. At least they aren't stressing about just gettin him out. This would tire my ass out! |
Wcv63 | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:28 pm     After Lisa explained her reasons to Dani, Dani agreed with Lisa, told her she hadn't thought it through like that and dropped it. No reason to think that Dani is trying to push Lisa into a plan that she doesn't want because she isn't. She broached the subject, discussed it and then dropped it on lack of merit. Fini |
Keiffer | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:30 pm     C1, I think her facinations to the exclusion of anyone else agianst Roddy has hurt her. Everyone knows that Roddy is a threat withour her going around calling him the devil. Also showing up anytime Lisa or Marcy is talking to Roddy makes her look bad too. |
C1mag | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:31 pm     I know this probably isn't the thread but Amy just said again that she doesn't want the next hoh and hopes marc gets it. He has verbally comitted himself to nominating Roddy and Jason. Now THAT would get him outta there once and for all. So I hope marcellus gets it. Too be honest if they go after Dani the next week I wouldn't feel bad at all. She exhaust the hell out of me. Just imagine how she is gonna gloat if Roddy does go before her. That sight won't be a winning moment at all. Hints of Nicole may surface as far as control goes. Marcellus will not care for that at all and neither will Amy. |
Wendo | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:32 pm     I don't think Dani is going to FORCE Lisa to do it. It was just an idea, nothing more. Lisa said she would see what Roddy does, if he approaches her again. I know from what Lisa has said, she won't vote to evict Amy if she doesn't want to. (edited to add: That's one thing about Dani, she does not force anyone to do what they don't want to do. She'll back off when told.) Dani, girl, you need to just shut up, sit back, and relax. That's what Roddy does. Yes, C1mag, I'm already in the middle of the path. I don't think Danielle has what it takes to win this game with Roddy in it. Had Roddy not been there, then yes, I do believe she had a chance, but not with him there. He's just too good. He has the ability to strike when necessary, the ability to sit back when necessary, the ability to manipulate the right person when necessary. Dani's just not as good as Roddy. But, I do give the woman props for trying, since no one else really has. |
C1mag | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:32 pm     Keiff I totally agree with you on that last point of yours. She is "Boot Roddy" obsessed. It's not fair to the other players. She drives them crazy about it. |
Bmh | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:33 pm     ya this is really bad..I am disappointed in Danielle she is ruining her chances!!..Dani wake up you are losing your allies..Lisa isn't gonna vote to evict Amy..if you want Gerry to stay then do the dirty work yourself!!..She is messing everything up I want Gerry to go |
Groucho | Monday, August 26, 2002 - 06:33 pm     It kind of reminds me of when Dani had the veto and she really wanted to use it to "shake things up". She didn't have a real reason for why this would benefit her (or Marc who was HOH). She just seemed to feel the need to do something, anything. Same thing here. I wish she'd just stay calm and plan for next week. |
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