Vengeance is Mine Saith . . . . .
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Sybilbb3oracle

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason still bears a grudge against Gerry for causing the eviction of Lori (Jason's surrogate mother) and Jason's personal loss of many thousands of dollars. If Gerry had not vetoed Marc, then Lori would have remained a decoy; and Jason and Lori would still be racking up an xtra $1500 per week. Vengeance is Mine Saith . . . Jason.

Question: Many have said that Jason fears Gerry nominating him if Gerry gest HOH again. Why?

Wcv63

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gerry has said to more than one of his temporary alliance members that Jason is a threat in the game because of his "goodness". He and Josh were making plans to try to engineer a Jason nomination with the caveat that Jason would be the primary target, not a decoy. He even started a lowkey campaign against Jason citing his "Eric vote lie" as making Jason untrustworthy in the game.

Jason, because he is ever vigilant in watching and listening to the things going on in the house, caught wind of this plan and has been leery of Gerry ever since.

Allietex

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 01:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Jason is so viligant about what is going on in the house why hasn't he caught on to pact that Marcellas and Roddy agreed on at the hot tub the other night?

Floresmama

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 01:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If you are talking about the Hot Tub alliance we saw on the network show I myslef wondered when that conversation actually took place. It might have been weeks ago.

Cameltoes

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 01:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have to agree Allie. Marcellas's actions should make them all suspicious of a deal with Roddy. He goes from wanting Roddy out first to wanting Gerry and Chiara out first. He spilled to Amy after he and Danielle agreed they would explain to her after the live show. He told Roddy that Danielle was after him. I would just assume Roddy, Amy and Marcellas have a thing (even if it's not an actual deal and just them trying to use each other to get to the end) and use HOH to pull Gerry to the side of of J/L/D. Too bad he seems impotent when it comes to cutting deals. That weakness could cost him.

C1mag

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 01:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It happened waaaaaaaay late at night last Friday. Everyone was asleep. The sun was just about ready to come up. No one knows about the conversation and when it took place. The only thing revealed to anyone about that conversation was when Roddy suggested to Dani that someone said she was gunning after him. She knew it was marcellus because Roddy gave to much info. She has no idea when the conversation to place and has only specualted that marc made a deal with Roddy.

Wcv63

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 02:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Allietex there are suspicions...nothing confirmed. Gerry's threat factor has been confirmed to Jason. Also Jason is looking a personal threats right now and not just threats to his alliance.

The only person who has named Jason as their primary target is Gerry. Although Jason has been named as a possible nominee by other hgs it was never as the primary target.

Eden

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 02:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that Marcellas told Jason that he would never vote out Danielle because he wanted Jason to think Danielle was safe. He assumed Jason would nominate Roddy and was looking for a second person to put up with him. He was angling for Jason to nominate Danielle as a decoy, then He, Amy and Roddy could vote her out.

Roddy has promised not to nominate anyone but hasn't made the same promise not to vote for them if they ARE nominated. All he needs to do is not win HOH and pick them off one by one as the weeks progress, all the while being true to his "word". People resented Danielle getting others to do their dirty work, Roddy is the ULTIMATE user.

Bernie

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 02:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Eden, you put into words what I've been thinking since yesterday, when I considered that Roddy never wins anything, despite his self-acknowledged intelligence and wit.
I'm surprised that none of the other HGs haven't noticed the discrepancy, but then he has them so entranced and befuddled, maybe I shouldn't be-surprised, I mean!
I wouldn't be surprised if that is actually his so-called 'secret plan'!

Wiseolowl

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 02:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The Lord giveth .. and the Lord taketh away. But He also answers prayer - it's just that sometimes His answer is "No".

Bernie

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 02:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ooops! Of Course Roddy did win HOH when he put out Amy, but his actions since would still bear out the hypothesis, such as jumping out of the fishy tub when Amy returned. [I hope ;-)]

Eden

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Roddy wins HOH again, I'll be very surprised. It is not in his interest to do so. He has non-nomination agreements with everyone and has somehow through wit or magic convinced everyone that in this game your "word" is sacred.

Wcv63

Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 08:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
His "word" however is fluid and ever changing.

Bernie

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 04:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, Eden and Wcv, and I was gratified at his discomfort when I recalled the way his eyes were when he realised that Jason had-gasp-doubts!!!
Since he has these agreements with everyone why put himself to the trouble of winning any comps?
He thought he was safe no matter who had HOH.
It was creepy watching him squirm with Jason, and even more creepy hearing his "Rightspeak" manipulating Jason.
After Will last year, I never thought I'd feel so strongly about an HG again, but this year, Roddy is making me nauseous.
I hope to heaven somehow someone will get him out before the end, but who will do it? I cannot see any one of the remaining HGs having the 'gall'.
Makes me so mad! LOL!