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Deb

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 08:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, I can understand where you are coming from however, I believe Gerry may be saying these things out of ignorance...not that that makes it right. However, Marc saying things like he wants to kill Gerry and Josh saying things like he is a Nazi only makes Gerry's comments seem small in comparision and will only make people more compasionate towards Gerry. It is only human nature to try to nuture and or protect someone when they are getting beat up. Not a Gerry fan here and I could pick apart things that he has said but others have said and have exhibited so much more vile behaviour that I too feel bad for the guy....faults and all.

Theo17

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 08:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm not a gerry fan but I say enough is enough. cbs has basically made him look terrible and I sure as heck wouldnt want to be him when this is all said and done.

Cjr

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 08:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gerry has no idea how he is being portrayed on TV. He thinks Marc is his friend. He jokes around with Marc the way Marc and Amy do, with the kissing jokes etc. If Gerry knew the truth about how he is being portrayed and about Marc's true feelings he would never make those comments.

Theo17

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 08:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
cjr I feel really bad for his kids. they must be totally shocked and embarrassed. I would if cbs made my dad look that way.

Hosewater

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 08:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Every time he looks at the orange tree, he's going to think about his fellow "sweet" houseguests who all turned out to be the most "sour" people he's ever known.

Maris

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 08:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Fair enough Deb, I appreciate the tone and quality of your debate and I do see your point.

Spotbiter

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 08:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope that when Gerry sees how he was portrayed on TV, he will be able to laugh and learn. I hope he will remember that "butterflies fly because they take themselves lightly", and give an embarrassed grin and say "that's me!" Maybe he will see that to see this as an opportunity for growth. The worst thing he could do is join the voices of these posters and blame everyone but himself.

He is ignorant of how Marc really feels about him because he is about as perceptive as a brick. He is self-absorbed in the sense that he simply can't seem to see a perspective other than his own (witness the "Alpha Male" comment.) In the end, seeing how others perceive him might force to consider the perspective of others.

Deb

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 08:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Maris....this was my first night posting and I was scared I would get beat up for sounding silly and my little world would come crashing down. It was fun and I think I will be brave and try it again sometime.

Maris

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 08:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Do Deb, it is always great when a good debater can argue their views passionately without getting personal. Welcome.

Cjr

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 08:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with you Theo about Gerry's kids. If it was my Dad I would be embarrassed but I would be very angry at how he was portrayed. I think Gerry's family, friends and hopefully his students, will be much kinder and understanding than CBS or Marc are.

Chance

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cjr,
I made similiar points on another thread. Gerry will continue to be liked by his friends/coworkers who already like him. His job will be in no danger.

Loppes

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
When Gerry's family was on tv this past week, they were all laughing at him. If his own family can make jokes about him in the speedo, and his bathroom habits, I don't see any reason why board posters who don't favor him can't.
People are making a big issue out of criticisms of the guy, when his own family laughs. I think sometimes people have to lighten up and not take things so seriously.

I don't have a big dislike for him, like I do for Dani. Don't take my post as a bash against him.
Lon

Wargod

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The difference here is, that Gerry's family laughs at him out of love, or with love. That certainly isn't the same with the hg's (same goes for posters here.)

CBS' portrayal of Gerry wouldn't bother me so bad if they did it with the rest of the hg's but they don't. We get a couple shots of the girls popping pimples, or sitting/dancing on the kitchen island....but not a whole segment.

I think Gerry's done pretty well for himself in the game. The hg's have not been exactly nice to him (remember Lisa in the DR talking about how everyone ignored him....somewhere around week 2 or 3.) He just does what he's always done and keeps going. Besides..without Gerry in the house, who the heck would I watch between 9 and 11 am?

Earthmother

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gerry sat his plate down next to Marc and said "thanks Marc", since he was doing the dishes. As soon as Gerry walks away it's "Fat ass troll", and Marc is on his tirade about how dare he do that to me. Excuse me but I watch Gerry do a sink full of dishes 2 or 3 times a week which are left by the people who are up all hours of the night while he is sleeping. He has never...never complained about it. He has never made rude comments about people not taking care of the pool, the HT or feeding the lizards,(by the way that is what he is doing while Marc is doing dishes) which he and Jay are the only one doing since Eric left. He goes in and gets their batteries every morning. Since the food challenge he gets the breakfast out of the storeroom and makes sure the coolata's are put in the freezer, even though he doesn't drink them and once again the bashing.

Wargod

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think thats a big problem with the other hg's Earthmother. They're all sleeping when Gerry does his stuff. I watch the feeds in the morning...thats when he takes his shower, does dishes, takes care of the pool and spa, and does his exercise. They don't see him do it, so think he isn't doing it.

Makes me want to drive down there and holler over the fence at them, LOL.

Earthmother

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Who do they think does all that cleaning before they get up bb? The reason they don't know is because he's not saying "You guys keep leaving a mess and I'm the one who cleans it up" because he's not petty. He cares enough about them to do it without a grudge. That's what grown people do, they don't expect a damn award and applause for every single act of kindness.

Cjr

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 09:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Who do they think does all the cleaning?? The BB3 fairies?? They can't be that ignorant. They know what the house and yard look like when they go to bed. Sounds like 5 year olds.

Loppes

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I guess the way I view it is 12 people knew the rules of the game. They were told they'd be on camera 24/7, they know the consequences and the pros of it. They open themselves up for applauds and criticism. It's the risk they take. They agree by signing the contract with CBS. If I don't want a water logged speedo showing on tv, then I will make sure I don't put myself in that position. Gerry is old enough to know that he's on view to the public, as the rest of the HGS. If they forget and say or do something ridiculous, stupid or hateful, they have no one to blame but themselves if it comes back to haunt them. It begs the question, "Which part of Big Brother is Watching" don't they understand?

Whether we, the viewers agree or not on who we like or hate, the only thing I don't ever believe, is when the house guests say they aren't there for the money.
Lon

Uhoh

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
gerry's daughter did an interview (think it was on sheryl's site) several weeks ago and said she couldn't even watch the show because it was too painful. she just lets other people tell her what was on.

she said sometimes her father drives her crazy cuz he thinks he knows everything, sometimes he's boring and goes on and on (this is my best recall), and other things that impressed me because she wasn't talking just to get the best about her father out there.

she talked about how close they are, what a great dad he is, and wonderful things also.

but the truth is - she was hurt then. i can't imagine how she would feel now if she allowed herself to watch marcellas rip into her father.

Earthmother

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As I said on another thread Loppes, I'm just glad that this is the internet when I hear things like that and not my neighborhood.

Cyn

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Some people have been sheltered and they have no idea that there are people out there that are so mean and cruel.

It never plays into their equation when doing anything. They just never had any idea.

If this is Gerry's story, I have no idea. Only speaking from my own private memories.

I'm sorry to hear about Gerry's daughter. This is why even though I wanted Gerry to get the video to show the other HGs that tv land did like him, I wished that he didn't win. I didn't want Marcellas to have more specific references to express his brutality towards Gerry. Cause I truly belive that he would attack anything that is related to Gerry.

I'm going to read the interview on sherlybraxton.com.

Loppes

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Earthmother,
I don't know what neighborhood you live. My immediate neighborhood houses close to 1000 people. They are different races, colors, personalities. I just hope none of them is a child predator because I have a young daughter.
I can tell you, I've heard things and seen things that would blow you away. This is a good neighborhood, I chose because of my daughter. It doesn't mean people are all nice and polite. In my experience, many are closet racists and bigots. I do afterall live in the most redneck province of Canada. I've also lived in many neighborhoods, haven't found one in which someone isn't a jerk. I'd be interested in hearing what neighborhood you live in. Is it mixed races, a certain age category, a closed community? Can you share your experiences if you feel comfortable?
Thanks,
Lon

Trillian

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Parents - certainly of minor children - don't go on BB! Spend that time with your kids. It's more valuable to them than the small chance at a heavily taxed cash prize and it eliminates the chance you'll embarrass them in front of a larger crowd than a few kids you run into at the mall ("Hi kids! Find some totally awesome clothes?").

That said, at least Gerry doesn't want to dig up the yard looking for hidden money, stage a mass walkout in the belief he's cracked a secret code about working together for money, or build a spaceship in the shower. There's all sorts of differrent levels of embarrassing...

Maesin

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Loppes
You are correct. I should have asked. When you said you saw them on TV, I made the *assumption* that the reference was to looks. My apologies. I am sure I also let the tone of other posts to leak into yours, and I should know better than that.
I think, in general, I am just getting tired of all the meanness around the game this year. That goes for the feeds as well as the boards.
Again, my apologies.

Forget the Zen thread, where's Hillbilly and that bottle of moonshine I keep seeing float around here!

Earthmother

Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 11:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes Lon it's very diverse, but for some reason we respect each other. We have block parties and never once has anyone called anyone a vile name. If a neighbor doesn't like someone they just stay away from them. The age grouping is from early 20's to 70's. Whites, Blacks, Hispanics, Middle Eastern, German, Irish, Pacific Islanders, all right here. We have a neighborhood watch and say "hi" to each other when in the yard. I have lived here for 30 years and never have I seen or heard the kind of comments that have generated this year on this show or on this board.

I say it for the 4394954583729093 time, you can play this game with dignity and human compassion. The casts from the last 2 years played the game with an occasional insult but never with the vengence seen this year. It appalls me.