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Marcellasfan

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 09:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
and one more thing...

Private schools have the option to pick and choose their students, public schools have the obligation to accept every child. But, then again, that's o.k. It is my belief that diversity is educational in itself.

in closing, private schools are notorious for being druggie schools...not any different than the public.

Allietex

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 09:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If some private schools are better it is because if a student refuses to obey the rules or doesn't do his work, he is out the door. Public schools can't do that. There is a lot of talk about giving the teachers and schools the right to expell students for disruptive behavior but when you try it almost takes an act of congress to accomplish. So teachers spend too much time discipling disruptive behavior rather than teaching. Also if parents is willing to spend the money to send their kids to a private school they are going to see that they toe the mark behavior wise and scholastic wise. It isn't the teachers or the schools that make the difference. You let any teacher kick out the disruptive students and see how fast the schools improve.

Tracy

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 10:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
O.K., I've now read this entire thread and there's been much conjecturing about Dani's income. I work for the postal service and if Javier is a clerk, mail processor or mailhandler (can't be a letter carrier cause he works nights), and IF he has been there at least 12 years, he makes a little over $42,000.00 base pay per year. Postal pay is the same nationwide (except Alaska). I have heard conjecture that their combined income is $100-150K which would mean Dani would have to earn $100K. Someone else asked about transfer and yes, postal employees can transfer anywhere in the country that has a opening for their position. My sister (also postal) and her husband moved back to Ohio from San Fran area around 15 years ago because she said they would have never been able to buy a house there.

Sisteronline

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 10:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just a few thoughts,
first of all, I would never, ever, ever!!!! Go on this show or any of the other reality shows for this very reason!

If Dani and her husband have a big screen TV or a nice dining room set and china cabinet.....so what??? Who's business is that anyway? She's not asking us for a loan!

If she had implants vanity or not, again, not our business! If my boobs sagged like that, I would want them fixed too! That would be my decision and as long as I paid for it, nobody else would have anything else to say about it!

I Live in the Midwest and the prices you all are throwing out there are making my head spin! Relocate!!!!!!!

Just because of this thread, I hope Dani wins!

JMO FWIW
Sister Online

Moondance

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 10:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Sister!!!

Of course I want Lisa to win too though!

Faerygdds

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 10:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I want Lisa to win too, but I have to disagree with one thing...

Squid... while I respect and praise you for being a cancer survivor... I would think that you of all people could understand the psych problems that breast disfigurment can have on a woman. Whether the disfigurment came from cancer or breast feeding or an auto accident is irrelevant... the end result is still the same...

I am NOT trying to belittle your situation because I really do feel for you and respect you for being a TRUE survivor, but really... disfugred is disfigured...

Maris

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 10:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My two cents:

I want Lisa to win but I dont get what the issue is about Danni's boob job. Who cares if she needed it for medical purposes or just feel good about herself purposes. I see no difference between her getting a job and Tonya getting a job. In both cases who cares. The difference between both women's decision was which size to go to. Obviously subtlety is not one of Tonyas strong points. It has nothing to do with who should win and it doesnt really say anything about who these people are.

I don't think Danni will win

Hawaiiandew

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 10:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought I heard Dani say that all of those tapings of her family were done at her parents' house because her apartment is too dinky for a camera crew.

Therefore, the big screen tv and crystal are her parents.

I still think Dani is admirable for having a goal of what to do with the money. And when a woman gets her mind set on somethan, she don't stop 'til she gets it!
Can I hear and Amen!

Abbynormal

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 11:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just a few things I have heard on the feeds and don't really care if they hold relevance for anyone or not.

It was established between Dani and Lisa that Lisa makes way more money than Dani.

Dani said after her first child her breasts never recovered, whatever that means.

Dani has said several times that her B-role was shot at her parents home because it was alot nicer than her place. She also said today that the video she received was also shot at her parents home.

I personally can not fault Dani for wanting her piece of the American dream. Most people with children do want their own house, and there is certainly nothing wrong with that.

As for the big screen tv: we own the largest made and we paid $100 for it from someone who was down on their luck. So, you can't judge her on this, maybe she got a killer deal too!

Wendo

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 11:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Marcellasfan said, "in closing, private schools are notorious for being druggie schools...not any different than the public."

Screw you buddy. I went to private school and I resent the generalization. Please don't comment on something which you OBVIOUSLY know nothing about.

Marcellasfan

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 12:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo, I'll pit my credentials against yours anyday.

Wendo

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 12:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bring it on Marcellsfan, I'm sure I could wipe the floor with you.

Alexis_42

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 05:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm bringing in another horse...

Goddessatlaw

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 05:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Heh heheh . . . so, did Marcellasfan ever pit his creditials against Wendo, and is that illegal in California? Did Wendo every wipe the floor with Marcellasfan, and if she did, did it hurt? Is the horse that Alexis promised to bring one of the portenders of the Apocalypse? Inquiring minds need to know. (You guys are funny)

Alexis_42

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 05:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am happy to report that the first horse is well on his way to recovery; however, he wants to go live in the "Zen" thread.

Squaredsc

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 06:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
roflmao goddessatlaw, you sure can turn a phrase, and i needed that laugh(just had to walk a country mile from where i parked to the building i work in and i am so totally not in shape.)

hawaiiandew, amen, preach on. sisteronline, snap snap.

Poco

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 06:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
OMG...I wake up this morning to check on this thread and can't believe the path it's taken. IMO, mini vans are better than station wagons. Some people like station wagons, but that kind of vehicle just doesn't fit my needs. That, however, does not mean that station wagons are somehow flawed, or "bad." Instead, there are selling points and downfalls to both styles. Wagons are just different from what I personally prefer; but, that has absolutely no bearing on how wagon owners feel or think. The manufacture of both kinds of vehicles, however, benefit the auto makers, the auto workers, the insurance companies and everybody else who may be involved or who may have an opinion.

The same goes for this "private" versus "public." Neither is inherently "bad" or "good." There are varying shades of gray in both. However, the inclusion of both types of institutions invariably benefits society as a whole in that they are indeed DIFFERENT. And, in a democracy, difference breeds choice, new ideas, creative thinking and positive societal growth. People engaging in conversations relaying their own experiences similarly enrich us.

Though I prefer my own public school experience, I cannot comment on someone else's private school experience. That belongs to them and I have neither the information nor the right to judge their experiences one way or another. I can only do that for my own.

Remember, I prefaced this with "IMO," and it is just that -- my opinion.

Can we kiss and make up now? Even if we are in separate corners, we are all still in the same boxing ring..........

Silksmoke

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 06:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Can someone please tell me (only because some posters think it is so relevant) how they can determine glassware to be genuine "crystal" when it's viewed on a Real Player, or even a TV? I
have glassware made out of plastic to resemble crystal that we use on the deck for picnics around our pool. They can make "regular" glass to look like genuine crystal too. Those making a humongous deal over stemware are either tremendous experts in the field, or making enormous presumptions.

As I stated somewhere else on this board, some posters are extremely disappointed that Dani and her family are not living out of a car.

As far as the "big screen" TV is concerned, how can assumptions be made about that? Is it new? Could it have been purchased second hand? Was it a gift?

Furthermore, how is what her parents have any of our business? How is what Dani and her husband have any of our business. The woman wants to win the means to buy a house, BIG DEAL. Using the money to invest in something concrete like real estate seems wise to me. I've heard many of the other hg's aspire to getting "exposure and face time", these are but fleeting moments. A house lasts considerably longer, and as time has shown us, increases in value.

Go get em Dani

Dntx4bb3

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 06:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
WTG Poco!!

I am ashamed to admit I stareted this thread. The meaning of how I felt was Play the game for you and your family, but don't throw the "poor me" card in it. Perhaps I did not word it right. I just tought that if you are really having money issues, you could trim corners. Maybe she can or maybe she can't. It was all JIMO.

Once everyone seem to get upset I just had to step away. I can't understand people fighting, over this and seems like this is what it has turned to.

I really wish I had a "THREAD SHREADER" LOL

Can't we just all agree to disagree, and try to get along?

Earthmother

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 07:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I just can't leave it alone....

Public vs Private Schools

I have worked in both settings and can tell you that the only thing that makes one better than the other is the involvement of parents and whether that student wants to learn.

The education is available in both venues. If a kid wants to learn then they will, if they don't care then they won't. You can not say one is better than the other.

Public schools have higher student population so naturally you are going to see more of everything and believe me you will also see more learning. Public Schools get more media..why? Because tax payers are funding the education. The media only cares when something is awry not when things are going well.

When doing a community based project which I was a member we did a study with our Sheriff's Dept's SRO officers and found they had more calls to the private sector than the public..why? Because Public Schools tend to handle problems internally rather than call in the National Guard when there is a problem. Students who misbehave in Public Schools can not be just tossed out..not true of Private Schools. Therefore admistrators would rather work with the kids and their problems.

If you have kids whose parents are involved and have good educaton ethics many students will learn in spite of the teacher or the school. I have found that Public School teachers for the most part are much more involved with the whole student not just the academic areas.

No one in my family attended private school and all are quite well educated, both academically and socially. How you raise your own children and what you expect from their education is what makes a successfull student not the venue.

I tend to believe that many people think that if you are finacially able to send your kids to a private school that somehow the kids that go there are all well behaved. Let me remind you that statistically there is a higher incidence of drug use among upper income families..these kids can afford to buy the stuff.

Personally many I know who attend private schools in our area are kids with too much money in their pockets. As I told both my boys, "you don't need to have money in your pocket all the time, because drug dealers don't like poor kids." Of course I am not saying that private school kids are worse in this area but I will say that they are no better.

Many times people send their kids to private schools because they offer an after-school service for working parents, not because they are better than public.

For whatever reason Dani chooses to send her kids to private school or whether she wants to buy a home at least she is doing it for her family and I think that's commendable.

Mrdisguise

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 08:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
there are different kinds of private schools.

some are in very rich neighbourhoods. some are in middle-class neighbourhoods. some are religious schools. some are for snotty people. some are for both genders. some are girls only or boys only.

yes- those rich kids have money to buy drugs. no big surprise.

yes- those rich kids can be snobby.

so it would probably be best to pick a school where the kids do not come from the very rich families. you can be middleclass and still afford private school.

Mrdisguise

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 09:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Marcellasfan:

private school is smaller so that is an advantage.

I went to public school and there was violence and bullying. So a girl going to an all girls private school will see less violence than if she went to a public school.

Maris

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 09:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it is a bit of a stretch to pass judgement on children who are affluent. Just because children come from affluent homes does not necessarily mean that they will be snobby or use drugs. Affluent parents are capable of teaching their kids morals and ethics and also teach their children to appreciate what they have. I find that there are a lot of people who do not come from affluent homes who are much more concerned with material things and attaining the material than they are about values.

I applaud any parent who wants to provide the best that they possibly can for their child. When applying to an ivy league school, it helps to come from a prestigious high school. You still need the grades but coming from a school like Phillips Exeter Academy helps . I also know that many of the fortune 500 firms only recruit from the masters program from the top colleges. Going to a college like Moorehouse, Duke, Stamford helps in getting your career on the right track.

There is nothing wrong with a good public school education but I am sure that an urban area like San Francisco has better private schools than they do public schools. A public school in an urban environment is not the same as a public school in a nice little suburb.

Whowhere

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 09:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Speaking from experience in MY area…..

(I went to public schools my whole life – which is why I choose to NOT send my daughter to one.) My husband and I are not ‘rich’ – combined income of less than $60,000. We pay $300 a month for her to attend private school with no assistance from anyone. We sacrifice so that she can get quality education and not be bullied because she doesn’t have a Tommy Hilfiger wardrobe and a tongue piercing.

I send my daughter to private school because public schools here don’t care. My daughter is not misbehaved nor a druggie. The teacher/student ratio is 1/19 in our local private school vs. 1/35 in our local public school. The curriculum is much more challenging than it was when she was in public school – that’s a fact.

About public schools not caring – they don’t. They are afraid to discipline for fear of media attention. Bullying is the ‘norm’ in public school. I pick up the paper and there’s another case where the public school said ‘no, Johnny can’t wear black lipstick to school’ and the parents are then suing the school. Everything is political. Bullying is not tolerated in private school, at least not where my daughter goes. I don’t agree with taking God out of the pledge – that will never be an issue at her private school. Teachers are paid more in private school; therefore you get more out of them. I pay their salary, not the government. I have an issue, I address them and have the problem resolved. I had an issue at public school, they didn’t care and they did nothing to satisfy me. Why should they? It doesn’t affect their salary. Those are just some of the reasons why my daughter goes to private school and as long as I can scrimp together her tuition, she will continue to do so. Oh, and Marcellasfan, the private school my daughter attends accepts every child from every nationality and any religion. The only requirement is that you pay – if you are a member of the parish you pay less, if you are not, you pay slightly more.

As far as Dani ripping her children out of their school, away from their friends and immediate family just so she can buy an affordable house. Shame on you for thinking that. Children need stability more than they need a house with a yard. If Dani is holding out until she can afford a house in her area, then that’s a damn good enough reason to do so.

Breast implant issue – to function as a normal person in society, my mother HAD to have breast implants after I was born. She also HAD to have her stomach stapled. Some women, after giving birth, don’t go back to normal the way they are supposed to. Her boobs, which were fairly large before me, sagged down past her stomach after she quit breastfeeding. Her stomach did the same. A piece of huge skin flap hung down almost to her knees. For those of you who think that’s cosmetic, you’re wrong. It’s medical. That’s like saying someone who was seriously burned in a fire and wants their face reconstructed so they can function in society is some kind of narcissistic a**hole. It’s no different than having to have both your breasts removed because of cancer. Please, spare me the bull. I must, however, go on to say that my mother is now 50% disabled because of those implants due to a slow leak over 20 years and the fact that they were silicone. I can’t say that if I had another child and that happened to me, that I wouldn’t do what I could to get my body back to the way it was (just like a breast cancer victim would wear a prosthetic or have implants put in). After all, it was my natural body to begin with and what’s the crime in wanting it back to the way it was before?

Reply to this how you will – but you won't sway my opinion at all, so it would be a waste of your time to try.

Maris

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 09:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I would agree with you whowhere except on the implant issue. Why does it matter why one has implants. To me it is irrelevant and is not a reason to judge someone.


I find it very interesting that people somehow judge a person with implants as having their values skewed. There are people who say oh yes I had implants but I only got them because of a medical reason therefore my implants somehow are different than someone elses. I dont make the connection between implants and values. Who cares why someone has implants or even if someone has implants.

Whowhere

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 09:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I only made that comment b/c people were saying that Dani's priorities were askew b/c she needs a house and has had breast implants put in.

I could care less who has them and for what reason. Some people get them to alter their natural bodies - some people get them to get their body back to the way it was before something happened.

Squaredsc

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 09:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
great post whowhere, glad to see ya by the way. maris, im not sure how the breast implant subject came up but i think someone was saying that she could afford the implants so she must not be poor, or something. imo, this subject has gotten way out of hand.

Wargod

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 09:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bravo, Whowhere!

My sons 1st grade class in public school has 25 kids. Luckily, his teacher cares enough to challenge the children, so he's not getting off easy academically. The 1st grade class at the private school my daughter attends, has 12 kids. We worked hard to get our son in the private school, though at the time, we made too much money to qualify for the financial aid, and not enough to send him ourselves. The reason I tried so hard, was I saw the education those kids were getting. They (in the kinder class) were not working on the alphabet and learning to count (which my sons kinder class did for most of the year, and he was bored silly!) They were reading, doing addition and subtraction, and learning science and music appropriate for their age level. My son was already reading, and working on math when he went to kindergarten...I'm not saying all private schools are better than all public schools, just in our case, he would have learned more in the private school.

If I thought I had a chance to win half a million (minus taxes, lol) I'd take a stab at it. To send my kids to private school, to pay off my house, to maybe buy a new car...it'd be worth it to me. If that is the reason Danielle went into the house, more power to her. And, I live ten minutes away from my family, and most of my husbands family. It'd take more than the desire to buy a house for me to move. If she wants to stay near her family, thats great.

I'm to the point I don't really care why the hg's are in the house, I'm just glad they are because their giving me some entertainment this summer. Danielle may talk about wanting/needing to win, but how is that different from Jamie or any of the others (Shes just the one who sticks out in my mind, lol) who are their for the exposure and what being on BB can give them in terms of future acting careers?

Whowhere

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 09:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Squaredsc and Wargod, it's good to be back!!

I completely agree, this subject has gotten WAY out of hand. Believe it or not, I read this entire thread and felt compelled to comment since the subject hit close to home. If you were to ask my mother, she.... oh nevermind!

As it states in my personal quote "The world is divided into people who think they are right."

Silksmoke

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 10:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I work in a hospital, there are many reasons a woman may have breast implants.

Some have had mastectomies, some have a significant chance of breast cancer in their family history and have their breast tissue removed and replaced with implants. Some patients have extreme asymmetry, some have congenital deformities. Many mothers have lost breast tissue due to their pregnancy and/or breast feeding.

Sure, a great number of women (tanya for example, IMO) want enormous breasts to draw attention to themselves. Had Dani not mentioned the augmentation, I would not have known, and I think many on the board wouldn't have guessed either. Her breasts are proportionate to her body size.

I, personally, would not have it done, but that's MY preference. Then, again, not having been put in the position of the afore mentioned reasons for breast implants, I can't say positively how I would react.

However, because I defend Dani's right to do what she felt was best for HER through augmentation, I don't feel I'm "self absorbed" as you put it.

BTW, some insurance companies are paying for all or part of these procedures.