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Archive through August 25, 2002
Cindyluvsroddy | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 03:33 pm     Oh! i think Jason is a lot smarter than anyone is giving him credit for .... If he put Roddy on the block, he would lose Roddy and a few others votes in the end ... I think he was crying because he knew he let Dani and lisa down .... Jason looks like a good thinker ... im sure his move was well thought out ... |
Zeyna | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 03:35 pm     Hosewater, what does being an athiest have antyhing to do with it? |
Hillbilly | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 03:39 pm     ...well's..ya know folks...christians don't necessarily pick they's friends based on their religious beliefs...i's tend to look at folks character more'n anything...so's it don't surprise me atall that Jason considers Roddy his friend... |
Jaysgal | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 03:41 pm     Uhmm ... Hosewater, the concept of Christianity is actually opposite. Jesus' closest friend was a reformed prostitute. In any case, I like Jason's decision. Should he change it, I hope he replaces Gerry with Marcellas instead, since Marcellas is playing both sides. And saving Gerry would be buying himself another temporary friend. I still support Jason's decision. What Jason thinks is not necessarily what will happen. We aren't all omniscient people. We can forecast, but how true it is is subject to time. Theo17, why do you keep ignoring the fact that Gerry has repeatedly stated how he saw Jason as a threat and talked about targeting Jason? So, Gerry the POV winner and one time head of household is suddenly this powerless, harmless player? :roll: |
Foodbunny | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 03:44 pm     Wow Hosewater, that was incredibly offensive! |
Hosewater | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 03:45 pm     Most of the Christians I know hang out with... other Christians. They don't hang out with people who admittedly watch porn. Or people who proclaim that there is no God. They try to convert these people, but they certainly don't want to spend much free time with them. |
Hosewater | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 03:47 pm     How was that offensive? Roddy has stated to all that he likes to watch porn and that he is an atheist. What's offensive about that? Well, I mean some people find porn to be offensive, but Roddy's the one watching it, not me. I just think most of Jason's friends and family would wonder why Jason has chosen Roddy (the porn watching atheist) to admire and respect. |
Hillbilly | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 03:47 pm     ...first, i wasn't offended by the remark....second, hosewater, i's got friends of all types: aetheists, Jehova's witnesses, Jewish, Catholic, etc.....i's pick ma friends by they's character and ifn we's got common interest.... |
Foodbunny | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 03:49 pm     Saying that a Christian shouldn't be friends with someone who is an atheist or watches porn is extremely offensive. It implies that one is better than another and shouldn't "sully" themselves by associating with them. Thankfully most of the people I know aren't shallow enough to judge one another on religion or what form of media they enjoy. |
Theo17 | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 03:50 pm     jaysgal i'm not forgeting anything. I was giving my opinion of jayson based on what i see. How many times in the last 3 weeks did he say they have to get rid of roddy. he even said he had to win hoh and nominate roddy and also that he was going to confront roddy. I like jason. I just think he is a very scared person when it comes to confrontation. That might be because he was a child who stuttured when in bad situations. I really respect jayson a lot and he has always been on my top 2 since the beginning of the game. basically there are people that are very nice and admirable that you wouldnt want in a foxhole with you during war. Jayson would fit that mold. As far as christians not hanging around with non christians I think that is a blatantly unfair generalization. I havent seen jayson ever say anything like that and I personally have never seen that. |
Zeyna | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 03:52 pm     I think Roddy is agnostic, not an athiest, but anyway... A porn watcher AND non Christian, how could anyone befriend such a person? Are you kidding Hosewater? |
Hosewater | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 03:52 pm     Saying that a Christian shouldn't be friends with someone who is an atheist or watches porn is extremely offensive I absolutely did not say that Christians SHOULD NOT be friends with those who do ugly things, like watching porns. People should be friends with whomever they want. But it's been my experience in life that most of the diehard, Bible-thumping Christians I know probably would not want to maintain a close friendship with someone like Roddy. |
Theo17 | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 03:54 pm     Hose water 4 words. jimmy swaggart jim baker |
Hillbilly | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 03:54 pm     ...hosewater...i'd even consider bein yu's friend...and right now it shor do look likes yu's could use one!... |
Justshirley | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 03:56 pm     I'm hoping at this point that Gerry wins AC and Jason sees on the video the obvious love between Gerry and his family and it will make him realize that, while Roddy is his friend, Gerry's a good guy, too. Jason doesn't really want ANYBODY to go, but that's part of the game. A poster in another thread referred to Jason as a "student of the game." He bought the LFs last year, he visits sites like this. He needs to remember that he will be fine as long as he remembers that he is PLAYING A GAME. And, if he's playing the game, he'd better play to win. Roddy is clearly more of a threat in the end-game than Gerry or Amy, or probably anyone besides Jason himself. All Jason needs to do is go to Gerry and secure his vote to evict Roddy in exchange for Jason vetoing Gerry. Danielle will vote to evict Roddy, as will Lisa, most likely. And Marcellas would certainly vote to keep Amy. So, it could well be a unanimous eviction of Roddy. The beauty of it is, Jason only needs to assure himself of two of those votes, since he has tie-breaking authority. Not only do I not think anyone would begrudge this move on Jason's part, I think it will earn him a great deal of respect from the other HGs as a player of the game, since everyone will be quite aware of what a difficult thing this will be for Jason to do. |
Hosewater | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 03:57 pm     I have a feeling that most of the people on this board are tolerant, flexible, open to all peoples regardless of race, religion, sexual orientation, whatever... Big Brother is probably not big with the CBN crowd. So, maybe YOU reading these boards would not base a friendship with Roddy on his porn habits or religious beliefs. But believe me, there are PLENTY of people that do just that. And I also believe that Jason, based on his bio and statements he's made in the house, most likely probably maybe perhaps hangs around folks who DO judge friendships based on religious beliefs and what they do for fun (like watching porn). What, you think Roddy's going to want to hang out with Jason at Bible study and then go to a Michael W. Smith concert? |
Theo17 | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 03:58 pm     jason thats why people are disappointed with jayson. the correct move is right there staring him in the face. Gerry needs to offere it straight up not say in all liklihood or in all probablity. Just say jason take me off I give you roddy on s ilver platter without you even having to break a tie. Plus my word not to nominate you. How could jason turn that down? |
Hillbilly | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 04:01 pm     ...question...does jason know bout the porn talk...cause from what's i read on the feeds...it was jest marci and roddy discussin they's habits...i'm sure roddy never told jason. ...nope...i'm pretty shor jasonboy's not goin to watch porn with roddy...but they's might do other things together that they both have an interest in... |
Goddessatlaw | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 04:01 pm     Problem there, Theo, is Gerry gave his word on his mother's grave already, then proceeded to tell America that his mother would understand the lie if he changed his mind. Gerry can't be trusted, and maybe Jason has his own niggling suspicion of the same. |
Twiggyish | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 04:02 pm     In Jason's case, it would probably make no difference. He doesn't seem the judgemental type. (ignoring Christian statement, because we've already beat that dead horse) |
Theo17 | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 04:03 pm     I dont think jason knows about the porn. Goddess after seeing roddy push jason to be nominated the last 2 weeks and now try to kick amy out I'd take my chances with gerry who hasnt broken his word since the first week. danni won ac. Shows America has a heart. Jason won hc also. Who else has won ac? |
Hosewater | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 04:05 pm     For some reason you all think I'm espousing my own personal beliefs. Not at all. I simply asked the question based on what I know of my fundamentalist Christian friends. Of which I am not one. Fundamentalist, I mean. My fundamentalist friends put up with me to a certain point. They are not my closest and most loyal friends. The fact that I do not see eye to eye with them on everything is what stops them from being close friends with me (this is their choice, not mine). If I were to suddenly declare that one of my hobbies is watching porn, or that I have decided there probably is no God (or am even unsure), then my fundamentalist Christian friends would DROP ME like a hot potato! If Jason and his friends/family are NOT fundamentalist Christians, then I've got him all wrong. I just can't see Jason going to the strip clubs with Roddy after BB is over. |
Goddessatlaw | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 04:06 pm     Theo - have I told you how much I love being addressed as Goddess? My own personal head trip. But I digress, back to me. Sorry, back to Jason - does Jason know Roddy pushed him for nomination the past two weeks? I haven't kept track of who knows what, necessarily. And if he was told, was he told by someone he trusted? |
Hillbilly | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 04:09 pm     ..hosewater...yu's right...jason is not gonna go to strip clubs or watch porn with roddy...but they can still be friends and do things that they's have in common.... ...but BACK TO THE TOPIC AT HAND |
Twiggyish | Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 04:11 pm     I don't think Jason wants Roddy to win. However, Jason is feeling conflicted because he feels loyalty to Roddy. No matter how you feel about Roddy, you have to admit he's good at laying on the guilt. |
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