Archive through August 19, 2002
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Archive through August 19, 2002
Twintown | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 11:42 am     I believe the environment of BB should be less user friendly. By that I mean the facilities, food, etc.. should be less luxurious. I would like to see a more pschycologicaly difficult game where not only are they deprived of outside contact with their loved ones and the world, but the many conveniences of every day life like air conditioning or heat, comfortable beds, separate rooms (which would mean sleeping entirely dorm style) Sort of Survivor indoors. This way, some are guaranteed to really go stir crazy and in fact may volunteer to leave due to duress. Perhaps they could have individual food challenges where one person could win luxury food while the others feasted on pb&j. In that line, perhaps even pb&j is too luxurious and they should be provided a diet of either rice or beans or potatos only. I would also like to see BB play mind games with them such as waking them up with loud noises, or turning the heat up inside, or making it too cold inside. Certainly the pool/hot tub should go. I just think it would create some really good psycho oriented tv if they challenged the people more. It could be "Lord of The Flies" like in there. |
Ginger1218 | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 11:53 am     Little sadistic huh? LOL Can you picture these whining crybabies if you took just one privilege from them? Marcellas would outqueen himself. |
Eden | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 11:59 am     It is interesting that the Survivor people have much more difficult living conditions and are equally isolated from family and friends yet they don't seem to break down as much mentally as the BB HGs. There isn't nearly the horrible backbiting and ugliness and the prize is TWICE the amount. Of course, Survivor is much shorter in duration but the physical strain would seem to make up for that. I agree they do have it easy in the house, especially when you read about BB's elsewhere in the world. I think it would drastically change the type of person that was attracted to participate in the game. Seems the producers want a Beach Party Bingo goes Bad type of group and aren't really interested in anything else. Too bad. I like some of your suggestions. This year it seems the HGs are running the show rather than the other way round. |
Kellirippa | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 11:59 am     I believe the game show you are describing already exists, it's called SURVIVOR! I think BB is about boredom and what happens to people cut off from the world and with nothing to occupy their minds and bodies, what becomes important to them, who becomes a leader, a follower, a turncoat. It is not a game about hardship it a game about psychology and society. |
Hoon4vr | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 12:02 pm     I feel exactly the opposite actually - I feel like the physical suffering belongs on Survivor and the mental suffering (of which they endure plenty as is) belongs on BB. I don't even really understand why they do the pb & j thing - they should just compete for amounts of grocery money like in the first season (hell those people had to go without toilet paper for a week - that's worse than pb&j). I do think they should make them do more mentally stressful "truth" or "confession" or "popularity" types of games a couple of nights a week. That would stir things up constantly and make it more interesting for all of us. (Also I have to mention that I still stronly believe that next year they need to get real people and not a bunch of actors!!) |
Tortie2k | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 12:11 pm     From the LFP, it seems all they do is sleep and talk and scheme. I would get them up early in the morning. I would have activities or competitions that forced them to work *together*...perhaps in odd pairings. From reading the LFP, when they're not talking about life outside, they are scheming. I would force them to mix it up with others. Don't threaten them with penalty noms or PB&J if you don't follow through. |
Ryanc2002 | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 12:17 pm     I don't like that idea. I'm not interested in watching 12 people make friends, that's not why I watch. The scheming is the best part for me. |
Car54 | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 12:31 pm     If these people were willing to be on a more physically challenging show they would have applied to be on Survivor. And for those who think Survivor isnt just as ruthless and scheming and mentally taxing, read some of the stuff Kathy or John or Lex have written after the show. I do think it would be more interesting if they had to work a little harder to manage their resources... have a budget for basics and then compete for anything above that. The scheming is all I watch for too, Ryan! I don't care if they are nice or clean or fair...their goal is to get everyone else out of the house, stay in themselves and still garner votes...it is watching them work that goal that is interesting. |
Eden | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 12:42 pm     I think the scheming would be magnified with a little hardship thrown in. I don't think they should have Survivor type conditions just not so comfortable. BB could be more ruthless with them... more controlling... keep the HGs more off balance. I think BB could throw in many more everyday monkey wrenches to disrupt their "boring" days. |
Bbdiva | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 12:48 pm     I think I am a purist, big brother is suppose to be those in control of what you are doing. I don't see ASP being in control, the production company does not keep these hamsters doing anything. I would love to see them have to earn things. I like the idea of another poster of having each one earn their own food. Don't even offer the same menu to everyone, give one hamster a luxury menu one a little less and on down to someone having to eat P&BJ and lettues. Make there be different classes of luxury. Also make them sleep dorm style, however there should be everything from a nice king size comfy bed to bunk beds to the sleeping bag on the floor. How hard you work is how much you have. Also give them something to do while they are awake, I don't mean play chess in BB1 we had week long projects. Bring those type things back, and quit rippin off Survivor for the challanges. Be orginial as Survivor is about Surviving, Big Brother is all about control (or that at least was the orginal premis.) With different levels of comfort in the house we would really see the scheming begin. Not just alliances but not being the one eating PB&J and sleeping on the floor. JMO FWIW |
Eden | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 12:58 pm     I agree about the control issue. They are way too lax with the HGs. They should contol them by awarding or taking away privileges or devising actual punishments. Right now, the HG run rampant, even going so far as to DIRECT the live feeds by purposefully talking or doing things they know will cause FOTH. They should be penalized for that in some way: no hot tub for a couple of days... or immediate PB&J diet... or not being included in some luxury competition...or having to do everyone's laundry. There is no fear of BB here and there should be. |
Kellirippa | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:11 pm     I don't think that BB it supposed to be those in control of what you are doing, I think BB is just suppposed to be "watching"...at all times... |
Tortie2k | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:14 pm     Don't know if you're referring to me, Ryan, but I didn't mean to imply that they make friends. No more BB1 please! LOL What I meant was forcing them out of their little groupings, their little pairings in the various rooms. Make them do things not necessarily with their allies, not to make them happy-happy, but to mix it up. Get them out of their chosen grooves. |
Eden | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:49 pm     Big Brother is about a totalitarian state. Yes, Big Brother watches so he can control you when you step out of line! |
Teresah2000 | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 02:39 pm     I think BB should get the HG up at the same time everyday, and keep them fairly busy thru-out the day and don't just let them nap all day, stay up all night. And for allies, BB should buddy 2 different HG up everyday and make them interact with different people. Ans as for luxury competitions, have the groups compete for something really nice. Like dinner catered to them, or movie tickets and stuff like that. For food competitions, they should do like BB1, they all compete to win 50% food or lose 50%. and let them budget their food, when the food is gone it's gone. |
Bbdiva | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 03:12 pm     Teresah I agree with you about the up at the same time and pair them with a different person each day but I still think that they should all have different menus just to make the houseguests feel as if one is better off than another. |
Teresah2000 | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 03:27 pm     and make them stay with their buddy all day. That way, they might actually get to know that person! |
Jhezzie | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 03:33 pm     I'm with the control freaks, lol. I think they should be totally dependant and they should lose freedoms everytime they get out of line. |
Mrose4243 | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 03:56 pm     I like the idea of forcing them to pair up with different HG. Then when they nominate they can't use "We just never connected or got close...bla bla bla..." They might have to tell the person the truth! Like: "I hated you from the moment we met." I would also like to see a competition a day for something: food, priviledge, luxury. How about that Dance Marathon they did on BB1 - waking them up all hours of the night to make them dance... not only was that FUNNY, but it forced them to interact! They definitley need more to do... |
Duchess | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 04:00 pm     I'm in agreement with the idea of giving them activities a la BB1 that is pertinent to achieving some comfort/luxuries such as having a bicycle operated shower system or a dance marathon to achieve certain hours for varying amounts of food privileges. Scheming is well and good but having them work toward goals and benefits also affect the way they view their fellow houseguests based on their contributions or lack thereof. |
Goddess146 | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 04:04 pm     In my mind, BB1 is the correct way to do BB. I miss BB1. I miss having a cast where no one has SAG cards. I miss the cast of real people rather than recruiting sterotypes. I miss honest and real people like Curtis, Josh, Eddie, and even Chicken George. I miss Joshy being Sloshy. I miss the week long challenges. I miss the house working together for a common goal. I miss seeing them bond as a household unit while still playing the game. I miss the HGs having a budget and control over what they got for food, etc. I miss the HGs making their own bread, making their own wine, etc. I miss the luxury challenges and the fun games that BB found for them to play. I miss the stupid BB1 discussion questions like "Rugs Vs Plugs." I miss the audiance participation in the banishments. I miss the banished HG being greeted by family and cheering crowds. I miss the challanging interviews of the banished by Julie. I miss the honest production of BB. I miss seeing the HGs on the live feeds during the live show. I miss seeing the challenges in real time. I miss seeing real people make real mistakes during the challenges. I miss hearing BB on the speakers. I miss the fun interplay between the HGs and the producers. I miss the us vs them mentality of the HG Vs BB. I even miss the chicken cam. While it was a form of censorship, it did not have that horrible FOTH music we all hate. I miss the control room live feed. I miss having two real feeds rather than one as we have most of the time now. I miss the BB1 AOL web site. It was the lamest BB web site from all the BBs around the world but it was 100 times better than the BB2 and BB3 websites. I hate the fact the country that essentially created the internet has the lamest internet access to BB. I hate what Arnold Shapiro has done with the BB concept. |
Kellirippa | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 05:08 pm     You know, BB1 was really, really dull. The idea of allowing a phone in vote really missed the mark, if you remember the hg would just make sure that they were all nominated and then just make nice nice until the result was delivered. It was kind of like the Brady Bunch or The Waltons. |
Scifi_Writer00 | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 05:10 pm     C'Mon Goddess...Don't hold back. Share you're true feelings. |
Goddess146 | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 05:48 pm     Brady Bunch and The Waltons. Were they boring shows? |
Ryanc2002 | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 05:51 pm     Nope, just too "nice". |
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