Marcellus wants Dani out!
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C1mag

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 04:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
With the idea that Roddy is going to still be around after thursday here's what Marcellus has come up with : If Marcellus or Roddy get hoh this next week Dani is toast... Yep Dani!

Marcellus nominates Gerry and Dani if no one vetos they stay the same. Amy and Roddy would evict Dani. The other two would evict Gerry. Tie goes to hoh and Marcellus sends Dani out. Yep he wants her gone. This is why he really is keeping Roddy in the house he can't stand her. I'm not making this up. He revealed this too Amy. If his plan doesn't work and anyone vetos out Dani he puts up Jason and Jason would be sacraficed under the same conditions.

If Roddy gets hoh this next week he puts up Dan and Jason and Dan will definitely go. if there is a veto then Gerry is put up and in a tie Roddy evicts Dani.

After he gets rid of Dani then his next target is that meanie Gerry and he feels he is on his way to the grand prize. He is going to play the game with Roddy. Couldn't believe how much Marcellus wants her gone. It's been a fake out game of his all along. He didn't evcit Josh last week because he hated the guy. He didn't want to lose Roddy. Thats what he is doing this round. Keeping Roddy safe so that he can use the guy to boot Dani. The second Amy walked back in that house it gave Marcellus a whole new plan. He will boot Dani and Gerry and then he and Roddy will run the whole show all the way to the finals.

He's entitled to play the game I'm just shocked at how quickly he has used the fact that Amy is back to help him get to the end. He doesn't want to play Dani's game anymore. He has found a way to get her out if he can. Good luck to him cause even if he gets in that winners circle he has trashed so many of them and their families that Roddy will walk out with the money.

Kiari

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 04:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah!!!! Thanks for the info!

Missy2

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 04:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
:(

Marcieb

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 05:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mg--thanks so much for the info! I'm kicking myself that I didn't checked the feed a few hours ago to hear that crucial conversation! To think people keep saying Marc is not a player cuz he's too emotional...he's got this figured out big time. I take it Amy and Jason are 3 & 4, respectively, in terms of staying power.

Marameko

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 05:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This is depressing. I won't quit watching, but I sure hate to see < > R win.

(M)

Wcv63

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 05:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
See what happens when I go to bed? All heck breaks lose and the cowardly lion got a brain and courage in his trip to OZ. He obviously cut in line to double dip. I'm not happy with this turn of events at all. At all!!

Jagger

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 05:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I was listening to this convo during the evening, I was wondering when Mars was going to play his cards, I'm hoping it back fires on him and he gets the boot, not that I am a fan of Danny, but less of a fan of Mars.

I'm hoping it is Lisa, Jason and Roddy in the final 3

Seamonkey

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 05:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Dani started turning against Marcellas even sooner and she never ever intended to "let" him go to the end.. while until she started being so openly bossy, manipulative and playing the "I just cannot leave here without the money because I'm so poor and I have a family" card, both Marcellas and Amy had often said that they really wanted Dani to win the money. I think Gerry also felt that way. But Dani seems to think that she can tell them that she cannot take chances (like getting HOH, etc) because then someone might <gasp> nominate HER.

Read the late night convos and even I was floored that she told Lisa that SHE couldn't be HOH next because she, Dani, had made a deal with RODDY that she wouldn't nominate him!!! Yet she implies to others that Marcellas and Gerry have deals with the devil/Roddy. But, see, it is only bad for them.. for Dani it is ok ..

For Dani, the ends justify HER means.

I don't want to see Roddy win, but not sure why he's any more a piece of crap than anyone else in there, Dani included.

Jimmer

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 05:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree. I don't know why Roddy is more of a "piece of crp" than Dani. Roddy is playing a good game and to the best of my knowledge doesn't go around trashing people like Gerry all the time.

Kiari

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 06:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Can anyone tell me if Lisa went back and told Dani that Amy and Marcellas were badmouthing her in the HOH before dinner?

Skol

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 06:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
She said something about it and that's how they came to the conclusion to go with the flow this week to keep Amy and Mars happy.

Car54

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 06:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Both Danielle and Jason had DR sessions on the show about 2 weeks ago where they each individually said they did not feel comfortable or trust Marcellus. This is not new, and sounds like it was justified.

Patman

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 06:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Nobody really wants another person to win the money. Anyone believing that line of bull deserves what they get. This game is for $500G's, and no one is there to take the summer off in the BB house.

Gouraphik

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 06:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If Marcellas really wants to wipe Danielle out, he doesn't have to wait until next week. He can do it this week.

All he needs to do is:

1) Get Gerry to use the Veto to save Roddy
2) Get Amy to throw up Danielle
3) Collude with Roddy and Gerry to vote Danielle out.

Chiara will still be around, but he may be able to placate Amy later. This way, Danielle's gone like Enron.

It's very possible that this could happen without Marcellas's input. Gerry benefits from Roddy's presence (he's a good shield), while Amy is turning anti-Danielle. I don't know if it will happen...only that it could.

Mizinvancouver

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 06:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Very interesting spin....

Well I guess Marcellas realizes Danielle isn't just a pretty face and has a brain!!

I'm surprised she's flown under the radar as long as she has.

I'm routing for her!!

Missy2

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 06:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You know what? Maybe Dani knows that Marc will run to Roddy who will run to Gerry (who will decide NOT to use the the veto). Maybe she did this to find out how loyal Marc is? Maybe Dani, Lisa, and Jason are planning on voting out Rod but their just putting up a front?? Dani probably knows that Marc wants her gone and by talking like she did he showed his true colors. - okay I can only hope!

Bkmac

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 06:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
JMO but I don't buy this was some long standing master plan, I think Marci is too fickle to strategize long term. Whoever pisses him off next week will be the new target.

That said I don't think this twist is depressing at all- it's awesome. This is why I love this yrs cast, they are very unpredictable!

Krossd

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 08:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This converstation happened yesterday near dinner time? Before Amy PROMISED Dani she would get Roddy next? (I can't believe I missed that LF post!) Last night (about midnight bb time) Dani and Jason (and Lisa) were saying they had to go with voting Chiara. Wow

(could someone tell me what the times are of this conv. between Marc, Amy, (Lisa?) is in the LF's, TKS)

Timton

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 09:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am not surprised by this. Marc has stated since week two that he's not sure how far he can trust Dani. Dani WAS a great player she would make the right strategic moves and was rather passive. Now she's painting a target on her back. I can't believe I am saying this, but I do want her out. I would love to see Marc. Amy and Lisa win, but I think Jason deserves it more then anyone, he one who isn't a total back stabber...yet.

Llkoolaid

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 10:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
KROSSD start at Grannygrunts post of 2:59 and read through from there.

What555456

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 10:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If Marcellus succeeds in getting Dani out, which I doubt he will do...

How soon do you think it will be that he starts to play the race card knowing that if it works, he is the only beneficiary?

Krossd

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 10:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Llkoolaid

Dani should forget Marc (as I have said before) and don't trust Gerry (Marc and the Giant actually could have a secret alliance). I am hoping Lisa will be wise enough tell Dani and Jason what is REALLY going on and the 3 of them stay together, at least for this go round, and next. Dani or Jason need to win the next HOH Big time, if any of them want to stay.

Very interesting twist. I never liked M from the beginning (for differnt reasons than this), why Dani trusts him is beyond me (actually thought she was thinking the same thing a couple of days ago, so her talking to him yesterday surprised me, and others too probably.

Anyone care to explain why she trust him enough to potentially reveal her (some of her) strategy?

Cameltoes

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 10:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think getting Danielle out may be a good move for him but using Roddy to do it is what could blow up in his face. I wouldn't want to risk having Roddy in the final 3.

Twintown

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 12:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
*WHAT555456*
Why do you feel Marcellas is eventually going to- as you put it- "play the race card?"

That statement comes across to me as if to say you expect anyone of color to do so. If that is the case, I would say you need to look inside yourself and ask why it is you feel that way? It is an unfortunate condition that you may have and not realize.

If I've taken your post out of context, please, please accept my humble apologies.

RE: Danielle.
I think Jason has benefited greatly from his secret association with Dani. In fact Dani has done all the dirt that is needed to give them the push to this point. As such, it seems many on the boards hate her. But Jason by far has definetely gained this "saintdom" status that fas been bestowed upon him as a direct result of her workings. If he had not associated with Dani, Jason would have to get down and dirty just like everyone else in the house. This group would not let a nice boy "saint" cruise through knowing that they have to sit beside him and get judged. Dani is willing to take that chance. I applaud her game playing.

Romans8_1

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 12:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Twin:
I disagree about Jason/Danielle. Dan hasn't really done anything for him (except helping keep him off the block this week, and even that wasn't major since Kiki was going to be gone.). Without D/J alliance, I don't see anything that J would have done differently up to now (except maybe start another alliance.) Jason has gone along with D on a few occasions, but nothing he wouldn't have done on his own.

With that being said, I think this week on is a different story. I think one of Jasons strong points (in strategy) is recognizing that the game doesn't have to get nasty and has try to fly below the radar. He knew that enough people will self-destruct (if left to their own devices) and has played his cards pretty close to his chest. I don't think anyone has done Jason's "dirty" work up to now. He voted for Eric and will vote Roddy this week if he can get him out. Push-comes-to-shove, he will do his own dirty work.