1) ORD and 2) The Alliance
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1) ORD and 2) The Alliance
What555456 | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 09:48 am     It seems to me that no one has hit upon what could be two of the real reasons for Jason's nominations First, Operation Revolving Door. Most people on here are assuming Gerry will be gone. I am not so sure. It could likely be that ORD was simply delayed a week because everyone thought Amy would get Roddy out as HOH. (She didn't, of course). Second, I think it is also very possible that Dani and Jason planned these noms. They want their alliance to go back to being secret. What better way to get Lisa and Marcellus away from them but to make the two of them think the alliance is gone anyway. Dani can still work with Lisa and Marcellus, neither of them suspecting the Jason/Dani alliance remains. And Jason can work Roddy, who now thinks it is gone as well. Just some thoughts to ponder. |
Missy2 | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 09:51 am     oooh I like that... |
Edno67 | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:00 am     They've told amy she is safe already and jason has said to some that gerry thinks he's staying and amy is leaving and not to say anything to him,,,,,,jason has said if its a tie he'll vote gerry out,,,,,,,so its a done deal unless gerry is saved by POV or if gerry himself gets POV and saves amy and then jason has to put lisa rod or dan,and ger might have a better chance,,,,,,or if dan can convince jason to put rod up if she or lisa get the veto |
C1mag | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:09 am     That is a real neat idea but thats not what happened at all. Dani all but begged to have Roddy up there. What Jason did was protect himself from the one person in the house he feels would nominate him if he gets hoh next week. That being Gerry. There was no fancy manuever other than that. We all watched it take place. The kid is playing for himself with the belief that if Roddy remains that Roddy will protect him and not nominate him. He was willing to help Dani out this last week to get Roddy out. She failed in her attempt. The game has completely changed as of yesterdays nominations. Either this crowd will cator to Roddys mind f_ck that they must play with integrity by keeping him safe based on promises or they decide to revolt and put him up and boot him based on the rules of this game. It really is all up to them and how much they want to win the game rather than be sucker to a man that has led them to believe this is real life and society will judge them if they boot him. The variables are there too actually boot him but it all depends on that hoh at this point. Roddy will not be trying for anymore hoh's so they have that luxry. Now all they have to do is wake up and start playing the game rather than allowing him a free walk based on a one sided twist on the word integrity. I like your variable but it just doesn't exist in this case. |
What555456 | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:09 am     And, Edno, after several weeks of seeing how the "safe" one does not encessarily stay that way after several days of machinations, you believe Amy is safe just because they told her that? Perhaps, but from what I have seen, what gets said on the day of the nominations and what actually comes down are often 2 different things. You may be right. But I am not so sure anything in this house is cut and dry, or as we see it. |
C1mag | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:19 am     You are forgetting that Amy, Marcellus and Roddy have been the "SAFE" one and they have made it through. |
Hillbilly | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:20 am     so...i's guess i'm confused...does everyone really think Rodster will take Jasonboy to the end...i thinks the moment Rodster has a change, he wants Jasonboy out... |
Floresmama | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:27 am     I hope Gerry is as smart as I think and he can come up with a way to expose Roddy's true nature before POV. Jason told Danie that if something changed they still could use POV and put up Roddy in the place of who ever is vetoed. This is the scenario I would like to see. Gerry gets Roddy to mess himself up(the way Roddy did with Josh) then Danie or Lisa get POV (preferably Danie) and take Gerry off the block. Jason puts up Roddy. Roddy goes out unanamously because Amy can't vote. I know this is not likely but a girl can dream can't she. |
Floresmama | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:29 am     Hillbilly I don't think he will take Jason to the end. I didn't hear all of the conversation but the part I heard he never promised to take Jason to the final two. I actually wouldn't really mind seeing Roddy go out third. Just out of reach of the money. But he is not my favorite choice for third. |
Onlymytulips | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:30 am     oooooops and Amy already left ONCE, C1mag. So you cannot make a conclusion that once they are deemed as "safe" it doesn't mean they will never go, or either never come back, in the case of Amy.(lol) I think that Jason feels that Gerry is the one person least close to him, and also Gerry needed someone to put him in CHECKMATE. Plus, Amy needs to go. She has a big mouth...and almost put Jason up for noms against Chaira. Both, Gerry and Amy are the two that will do the unexpected.
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C1mag | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 10:57 am     Only I was just giving examples of those that were called safe and have made it through that particular eviction. So based on those examples sometimes the safe one does make it to the next round. Sheesh! I like the theory that Gerry could expose Roddy but see it as unlikely. The old man is good but not that good. I agree that Roddy doesn't want to take Jason to the finals but in his mind he will convince the others at the right time that Jason is a threat to beat them all in the finals therefore he must go. They will agree and he will sit back while someone else nominates him and he will vote to evict him. He didn't say he wouldn't evict the guy he just said he would like to be in the final 2 with him. Roddy will be literal if he is ever questioned on his votes. I truly believe he wants Amy in that finals with him. None of them get it yet... If you are sitting next to him in the finals all you do is make it look like you used him and then point out that the rules say you can lie if he trys calling you a liar. Then turn to him and tell him to give it a rest on the integrity thing. Remind him that he didn't write the rules of this game. I still think that you could beat him in the finals with the right speech after he trys the ol " you love me, I'm sincere," crapola! These people need some backbone. |
Bearware | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:24 pm     I am a bit confused, I would SWEAR I heard Roddy promise Marcellus AND Jason both he would take 'him' to the end for the last two. Now how can this be if he isn't 'playing' someone? Surely Jason isn't so naive as to believe Roddy, Marcellus, on the other hand, is just plain smitten. |
Secretsmile | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:29 pm     I may be way off base here but of the remaining 7, they should give some thought to keeping Amy for the end game. She has no support outside the house , not one evictee will vote her over anyone left. |
C1mag | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:30 pm     Bear he promised Eric and Josh the same deal. He's implied it with Gerry. Has suggested it with Lisa. Has told Amy he would never nominate her if he gets hoh again. Which implys the same thing to her as well. Lets face it we all know he has lied as well but some how he will say that he never said he would SPECIFICALLY take them all to the finals he just made sure they all agreed to take him. He would say he HOPED it would be them in the finals. If they buy that like they buy into his rules of this game then once again they all deserve to lose the money. |
Alaginger | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:38 pm     Didn't somebody overhear a conversation at the beginning of BB3 in the HOH room, from people in the Storage Room? If everybody isn't aware of that, maybe Gerry should get Roddy in there and tell Jason ahead of time to stay in the HOH room and listen. |
Theo17 | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:40 pm     alaginger thats a great idea or dani could get marcy and roddi in there for jason to listen to since they both have a final 2 deal with roddy |
Jaysgal | Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:57 pm     I already said it. I am no longer excited about this nomination. I read the live feeds where Danielle told Jason that if she were the HOH, she would put up Roddy and Amy. When Jason pointed out that she couldn't do it, she said then she would put up Gerry and Amy. Then they got into a discussion about Gerry being a threat. Yes, she pushed for Jason to put up Roddy and Gerry instead, but Roddy was not an option for Jason. I think that Jason took Danielle's cue. It all explains why Danielle is not surprised and is relaxed. Here's an excerpt of the feed dialogue: now saying maybe get G this week saying G said he wouldn't use POV, d skeptical D - to put on safe side I would put up R and G. J - but you wouldn't do it D - I have a deal. I'd put up A and G J - my fam is probably screaming. They know exactly what I should do D - I don't trust G, I don't getting slower J - I don't know. I wish it was a week further into the game. Everyone has an excuse why they shouldn't go. Amy knocks and enters J - I have two options. no matter what happens you are fine. either way you are fine. but you might now J - if you don't get a key today, you are safe. |
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