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Scorpiomoon

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 10:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You know, while Eric was in the house, I disliked Lisa. When Eric left, my disdain for her eased up.

But after today, I am thinking this girl really does has some serious issues.

I'm listening to her talk to Jason, Danielle and Amy in the hot tub right now. Lisa CANNOT stop talking about Gerry! She brings him up ALL THE TIME. It's like her criticism of him is neverending. I even remember her referring to Gerry, a few nights ago, as a "pedophile", but then she quickly recanted what she said.

If she is the bad-ass she claimed to be (when Eric left), why doesn't she say something to Gerry? To his face, she is extremely nice to him--nicer than most of them are. But behind his back, it's like she has an obsession with him.

The one good thing is that after Thursday, if/when Gerry leaves, Lisa will have nothing to talk about, no one to bash and she'll go back to being the invisible mouse she was at the beginning of the show.

What is her problem?

Closetfan

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 10:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow. I haven't noticed this at all.

Maris

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 10:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think her problem is two fold AND I AM NOT DEFENDING HER -- JUST OFFERING OBSERVATION


Gerry vetoed her first nominations which resulted in her putting up Amy instead of Marcellas and they lost Lori.

Gerry nominated Lisa and Eric.

Jimmer

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 10:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The whole thing is getting worse and worse. I really liked Lisa a lot up until this point. Now she is just being petty and self-obsessed with the idea that Gerry is ogling her. Can't an older guy look at a younger women. Who cares if he's old enough to be her father? It's not like he's hitting on her. The only people left in there that I like are Jason and Roddy.

Jhezzie

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 10:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gee, Lisa was always rather self-obsessed and petty. Eric just added goofiness to the mix.

Scorpiomoon

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 10:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris: I would totally agree with you if I believed Lisa was thinking about the game, but when I listen to her insult Gerry, I think there's more to it.

But you could have a point, the game stuff might have something to do with it.

Floresmama

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 10:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am glad someone else has brought up this topic about Lisa warped viewpoint of Gerry. With out any hard facts I would have to wonder if Lisa wasn't molested as a child. She has some really strange opinions of Gerry.

When she comes out in the yard wearing a thong bikini and then calls him a pervert for daring to look at her. I find that bizarre. Why was she wearing the thong if she didn't want people to check out her a$$.

Gerry is a red blooded hetrosexual male and he is not suppose to notice when a very good looking woman walks out to the yard wearing practically nothing.

I say her reaction is way over the top and is probably involved in something that happened in the past that has nothing to do with the house.

Cba79

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 10:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
IMHO all of the houseguests are beginning to show a side of themselves that I find rather unflattering. I hope that this is just the confinement of the house wearing on them and not their "true sides."
In Lisa's case, I will admit that her criticisms are becoming personal when it comes to Gerry. Of course, most of the HGs have begun to do more of that to Gerry lately. I will not condone it, but the "pedophile" comment and some other comments did go too far.
Hopefully, after this eviction they will start to see the light of the end of the game and will get into game mode and out of this mudpit of personal attacks.

Groucho

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 10:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They seem to feed on each other, too, in their willingness to start bashing the other houseguests. Marc, Lisa, Amy, and Dani in particular. I find I like all of them better on their own, and I cringe when they group up for their little gossip fests.

Curlyq

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 10:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Are you talking about her belief that Gerry has the hots for her? If you remember back in week one after she gave her nomination speech, Gerry came in her room and said something to the effect that intelligence in a woman is a turn-on. She probably took it to mean she had actually turned HIM on. Ever since then she keeps talking about him like he's a lech who's out to get her.

Meanwhile I think he was just saying that to flatter, because her nomination speech hadn't really sounded all that intelligent. He was trying to stay on her good side by stroking her ego since at the time there were 3 of them trying to win over the young single guys through sex appeal.

Floresmama, your point about the thong reminds me of Tonya. I remember her talking to Gerry about the men ogling her and Chiara while they were in the shower. She spoke as if she thought they were acting like idiots, but she didn't mind performing for them at the time.

Jaysgal

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 10:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is there something about Gerry that we don't know? I'm starting to get a little scared and suspicious. At first, I brushed it off, but with Lisa's continual complaint and Marcellas freaking out, I am starting to wonder.

Maybe Gerry looked at her funny one time; and ever since then she's been afraid because it reminded her of some time in her life when she was exploited? The way Lisa talks, I suspect that she's been exploited before.

Lisa's annoying and hypocritical nonetheless. She seems to have forgotten her own bad deeds: 1) She once was the HOH and nominated Marcellas, and then she nominated Amy in place; she sacrificed Lori, even after promises; 2) she had no problem splitting up the Amy/Marcellas couple without any sympathy; 3) she badmouthed Amy when Chiara's heart was touched to do something good for Amy (i.e., a send-off party). Lisa started to spread stories about comments Amy had made. She then discouraged Chiara from doing anything nice for Amy. Then Chiara started to speak of avenging Amy's mean comments to Tonya.

Amy seems to have no knowledge of this. Perhaps if she had the knowledge, she would not forgive Lisa any more than she would forgive Chiara. Lisa's nominated Amy before; Lisa's spoken ill of Amy before and even now; and she's evicted Amy before.

Ironically, it was Roddy that saved Amy during the first eviction (first week). Had Roddy been loyal to his supposed friend Lori, Amy would be gone by one vote. Is not it an irony that Marcellas, Danielle and Amy herself have forgotten that fact? Or maybe they never learned that Roddy had saved Amy, whether or not that was his intent.

Jimmer

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 10:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It's hard to believe that there is much of Gerry's actions in the house that we are not aware of - this is BB not Survivor - we are seeing it live. Gerry's not perfect by any stretch and in some respects I don't like defending him but there is simply a real gang mentality occuring and Gerry is the victim.

Wcv63

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 10:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa hasn't liked Gerry ever since he used POV to mess with her nominations and cause her to nominate (and potentially alienate) yet another housemate. This dislike intensified when Gerry nominated Eric and Lisa together.

Since Lisa has been spending more time around Marc, who does nothing but bash Gerry, she has picked up the habit because she already harbored resentment towards him.

Perhaps Lisa does feel uncomfortable around Gerry. I'm just not sure that her stated reasons are real or imagined.

Annitar

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 10:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I really, really hope that Gerry gives them all hell when he comes back for the Finals! I hope he tell all of them what they can do with their vile, mean, petty, hurtful comments.

Hey, I'm all about letting people gossip, etc. But these guys have went waaaayy beyond that time and time again.

I can't imagine what seeing all these hurtful things has done to his family. I also can't imagine how hurt Gerry is going to be when he finds out.

Closetfan

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 10:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm with you, Annitar! :-0

Vonne

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 10:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm a bit confused. This was posted in the LFs --

R is telling them that he and G heard something mean that they said while he was doing water?
L, don't, don't say cause I'll cry

-- She can't stand the man from everything she's been saying about him so why would she cry because he overheard their nastiness?
They knew he was going in and out of the house with water for the hottub and could possibly overhear what was being said, but that didn't slow down the nastiness one bit.

I just don't get some people

Uhoh

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 10:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
oh great - i didn't hear this bashing on lisa's part. uch.

now who do i root for?

curtis!

Jhezzie

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 11:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was just listening to Lisa too, and I have no effin idea what she is talking about. Gerry sang some song and it bothered her so much she couldn't get out of the hottub, but Roddy, who was supposedly right there, has no effin idea what she is talking about either?
Then, she says that if it were maybe Chiara and not her that Gerry was singing to, that Chia would laugh? Huh? And then she sees the irony of her walking around in a thong? My head hurts...

Snogrl

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 11:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa and Roddy in the hammock

A little while ago Lisa told Roddy why she has been upset with Gerry. Apparently he made a comment about Lisa liking to be on top and something about a broom handle. I took this to mean Gerry remembered one of the sexual conversations Lisa had with someone else (Chiara?). She seemed freaked that he remembered it AND brought it up. She told Roddy she was really upset about it and talked about it in DR. Roddy said if anything like that happens again she can always talk to him.

Lancecrossfire

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 11:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You mean kind of like everyone remembering Gerry's speech way back when and still bringing it up everyday?? Oh no! The horror of Gerry--how could he do such a thing to bring up something someone else said. (yes, sarcasm intended)

Jhezzie

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 11:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Did she actually get in the DR or did she want to get in but didn't because it was "just her" meaning no one else would have freaked but her? I was under the impression that she didn't go in.

Hotty_Toddy

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 11:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
A woman shouldn't question her instincts or try and rationalize if a man makes her feel sexually uncomfortable. You should always go with your instincts. Being that this is now the second HG Gerry has made to feel this way (the broom/sexual reference/dirty song incident described above), I think the problem lies with him and not Lisa. It may just be poor judgement on his part, but her feelings are obviously very real and strong. It sounds exactly like sexual harassment. Lisa was saying that she didn't want to go the DR about it, but she should. I think if Gerry survives past Thursday, BB absolutely needs to take some action regarding his sexually inappropriate "alpha male" behaviour.

It seems that the longer Gerry stays in that house, the more likely he is to do something that will cause him to lose his job as a teacher, if he hasn't already. The shower thing alone may have parents up in arms.

Lombadier

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 11:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She's bothered by the fact that Gerry has looked at her? Isn't this the same girl that was giving explicit instructions on how to perform oral sex, ran around with a peanut butter bikini on, and so on and so forth? If she doesn't want to be looked at, she should not flaunt herself.

Lancecrossfire

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 12:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hotty--just about every other HG has done the same thing concerning the shower thing, and made way more sexually explicit comments over the course of the show--anything Gerry has said pales in comparison---why are you not ragging about them?

Snogrl

Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 12:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jhezzie, I thought she said she went to the DR, thanks for clearing that up.