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Theo17

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 07:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
After roddy asked jason to go feast with him and go to a baseball game together I thought jason was waiting to be kissed. What a utter disappointment Jason has been. I like Jason as a person a lot but as far as the game goes he has basically fallen harder for roddy then kiki, amy or marcy. Amy doesnt even care about the game all she wants is kisses from roddy. Only hope is for lisa or danni to win hoh. By the way even though I like Jason a lot now that he is roddys lapdog it would make sense to nominate them both. It will be funny to see jason say vote me out not roddy just like josh and kiki before him.

Woodpecke®

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 07:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If you don't think that Jason knows what Roddy was trying to do by staying up all night with him, you are totally mistaken. He may not nominate, but he is wise to Roddy and his tactic of giving quality time to those who are a threat to him. I think that Roddy is sweating heavily, and if Danielle can get it through to Jason that Roddy being voted out is mandatory, we may have a switcheroo. Not getting Roddy out this week leaves Jason a bit vulnerable, and I know that Jason will consider it heavily. Roddy staying this week is better than 50-50, but certainly not a lock.

Theo17

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 08:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry i take Jason more at face value. Jason even said last night that it might cost him 500k but friendship is more important. I dont see Jason as this master stratigist because strategy wise he is making a dumb move. He could have all sorts of deals from Gerry and get rid of roddy at the same time and he just ignores them. He isnt even interested. I wanted Jason to win but he is under the masters spell. Its over for him

Wcv63

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 08:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Theo...you sound jaded. I'm not ready to give up the ghost. As a matter of fact, just this very second I made a decision to redouble my Jason defending efforts.

Yay Jason!

Theo17

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 08:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wcv just very disappointed in Jason. I really wanted him to win. I'm shocked at how fast he caved. I think that he is very naive. I still like him best of all the hg's but dont think he has a snowballs chance to win now.

Jimmer

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 08:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
When will the Veto meeting take place?

Theo17

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 08:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
By the way its pretty obvious roddy wanted jason up all night not only to become friends but so Jason would sleep right up till the pov meeting so nobody else could lobby him

Woodpecke®

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 08:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy is a marked man regardless of what Jason does with the POV. Roddy played too hard, too early. His relationship with Chiara was one-sided and will not even result in a vote from her at the end should he last that long. Roddy has no chance at the money, while Jason is being exactly the way he has been since Day 1. The comments concerning Roddy's master skills are overblown by viewers of this show and this board. Proper analysis of house happenings do not begin and end with Roddy.

Theo17

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 08:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
wood how is roddy marked really? all roddy has to do is hope he, jason or amy win some hohs. If dani wins she syas she wont nominate him and marcy is also smitten. Only sure bet is lisa.

Woodpecke®

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 08:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa, Danielle, and Gerry would nominate Roddy if they had the chance. Since you are assuming Gerry is leaving and Amy is staying, I can even envision Amy listening to Danielle and nominating him. Roddy getting HOH would be good for the rest of the house, because he would be forced to nominate people he has attempted to gain trust from. Jason would never let Roddy slip through again if he got POV and had the chance to get Roddy again. Roddy cannot possibly escape being evicted before the final four.

Bbtimes3

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 08:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jimmy,

Veto meeting takes place at 10:00 BB time...

By the way, I would really love to see Jason use the POV and put Roddy up but I think it's wishful thinking and hearing the convo between Roddy and Jason this morning. :(

Romans8_1

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 08:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Woodpecker,
I don't think they would nominate him. Danielle has already said she wouldn't and I am not convinced Lisa would either (this week). Gerry has cut many deals and most seem to be centered around Roddy. I think Gerry would go after Jason and may Marc/Amy. I think many would vote to get him out, they just don't seem to want to put him up again.

Theo17

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 08:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
wooddy to say jason would never let him slip again makes no sense when he has not 1 but 2 chances right now to send roddy packing for sure. he has the votes easy and the pov. Jasson is just snmitten with the guy. He doesnt even talk with danni anymore about getting rid of him

Needmylifeback

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 08:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I was a lot like Jason (personality wise) when I was his age....he may realize what Roddy just did but, the fact was they were up all night talking (about all sorts of things and not just the game )and being buddies even when my worst enemy paid attention to me I was like "WOW - she must be starting to like me for who I am"...there was always an ulterior motive [naturally] and I always ended up being hurt....

I've grown up since then - but, I see that in Jason, his trust and belief that Roddy really "CARES" about him outside of the game is going to end up hurting him in the end.


That being said - most of what I have predicted throughout this season has come back and bit me. So there is the chance that the opposite will happen! (Leave it to this time to be the one time it actually goes the way I say! LOL!)

Woodpecke®

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 08:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am hesitant to predict Jason will use POV this morning. I watched the feeds this morning, and I don't think his long discussion with Roddy will change his decision either way. I am leaning toward a Roddy nomination at 10:00 BB time, but nothing is guaranteed. Jason doesn't need to do this to win the game, but it would be a bold move that might be in his best interest. He is thinking about it for certain.

Theo17

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 08:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
wood if he was going to do it he should have made a deal with gerry first. jason isnt going to do anything I'm sad to say

Woodpecke®

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 08:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Theo, here is the way I see it. Jason decided not to nominate Roddy originally after deciding in his mind that Amy or Gerry would be a safer play. Nominating Roddy after getting POV is a very ballsy move that he knows may focus too much attention on him and his strategy of winning the game. He is in a very difficult position, and having the chance to get Roddy with a POV next week would be too tempting to pass up. Danielle WOULD nominate Roddy, I guarantee it, no matter what she said or has shown to the other players.

Theo17

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 08:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
woody I agree with you about danni but not jason. I like him a lot but he is just going to stay with the people he likes best.

Woodpecke®

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 08:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If Jason nominates Roddy this morning, it would be a game-breaker and a terrific play. Looking beyond an 80 day game in a house and trying to win is what Jason should be thinking about right now. I am giving him credit in advance. A Roddy nomination NOW would create an impression of Jason that might be unstoppable. He has the chance, let's just see if he pulls it off.

Guiltyviewer

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 08:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
ummm...wish it wasn't the case wood, but jason actually told roddy he wasn't using the pov...it was in their extended convo in hoh wee hours this morning, and jason even elaborated before that when he, amy, roddy, and marc were outside...he said the pov meeting was going to last a total of two minutes and was laughing comfortably while saying it. considering his tendency to get nervous while feeling pressure about the game, i think it is a fair assessment to say he's not using it. he also told roddy how much this week is an easy week and will continue to be one...not a likely statement if he was going to shake things up with pov use.
sorry no caps working...don't go blind ,smile,

Woodpecke®

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 09:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I saw that Guilty, and I don't have any reason to doubt his sincerity when he made the statement. He was up with Roddy for hours; he seems to be enjoying his carefree week. Just wait and see what happens when he is asked by Danielle or Lisa. (Your work on live feeds is appreciated by me always).

Theo17

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 09:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
woody i jason was playing to win the smart course of action would have been to make a deal with gerry first. Jason is going to fall on his sword just like josh, amy and kiki the last 3 weeks.

Squaredsc

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 09:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
say it isn't so guiltyviewer. you take that back right now<smile>. if jas doesn't use the pov, then i predict that roddy will get hoh and put up jas and possibly dani. and jas may get kicked out with no chance to go after roddy again. da*n.

Theo17

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 09:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
squared I think you are 100% right about roddy nominating jason and danni. I just think it would be danni leaving not jason.

Marameko

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 09:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Woodpecker. I hope you are right !