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Guiltyviewer

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
gerry said so when going into the dr....i always eat dunkin donuts when i'm not vetoed

C1mag

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm on the side that believes Roddy won't try for hoh either. He can't nominate Jason. He has promised Dani he won't nominate her. He can't nominate Marcellus and he told Amy way back that if he had to do it again he would have never nominated her. Plus she saved his ass. That pretty much covers everyone.

Roddys ego is out there for all of us to see. He thinks he can win this thing by mentally manipulating them into a corner based on promises. Jason's ridiculous nominations this week proved that Roddy can indeed win this game that way. Read his bio. He said he would be willing to take a chance and be vulnerable while calling them on things they had said in the past. Looks to me like he is still applying that strategy.

Now as for Dani not nominating him... I have no doubt she would. She has a speech all prepared as to why she would nominate him. However, right now she is going around seeing who would nominate him and who they would put up against him if they were hoh. Amy has promised she won't nominate her already. So has Marcellus. We know who Lisa would go after. So don't be surprised if Dani takes a dive for hoh as well.

Now the real problem.... The best nomination would be Marcellus and Roddy if Lisa or Dani gets hoh but that won't happen. They will fall right into Roddys game when either one nominates Amy and Roddy. Roddy will convince the kid that Amy needs to go. Jason will agree. Marcellus has already said he is ready for Amy to go. He knows she is a liability for him in the game. So at the end of the day Roddy would stay over Amy. He's already slowly tainting the house against her. Jason will once again save Roddy if he is up against Amy. Dani is giving Jason way too much credit. He is the weakest link in her little alliance. As it stands he has made her remaining time very hard. She needs to recognize this and she doesn't. This is another of her flaws in this game.

What Dani should want... 1. Marcellus wins hoh. Puts up Roddy and Jason. Roddy would DEFINITELY go home. 2. Lisa wins hoh. She puts up Roddy and Marcellus. Roddy would DEFINITELY go! 3. Amy wins hoh. She puts up Dani and Roddy. Roddy would DEFINITELY go home. Jason would be FORCED to finally evict Roddy in this scenario. The biggest mistake Dani is going 2 do is too support an Amy and Roddy nomination. If this happens look for Dani to leave right after Amy.

Not1worry

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gerry looks absolutely doomed. Roddy is on the verge on hysteria, not shutting up. No way he'd be acting like that had he been nominated. Jason, Jason, Jason.....I had such hope for you.

Bbtimes3

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And Amy just called to DR. The HG's are just too animated and Amy is just being too happy. I think it's almost a definite the veto was not used.

C1mag

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I never doubted for a second that Jason would continue to protect Roddy. Roddy has the kid convinced he deserves to stay in the game. Dani has made a grave mistake playing this game with Jason. Jason will continue to protect Roddy. He will protect him if he is nominated against Marcellus and Amy as well. Dani and Lisa's only hope of getting out Roddy is a Marcellus and Roddy nomination. Amy would not sale out Marcellus and Lisa would also evict Roddy. They wouldn't need Jasons vote. If Dani allows Roddy and Amy to be nominated then Marc will sale out Amy and Jason will evict Amy and Roddy will stay.

Beagle

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just got back home now, has the POV meeting already happened?

Maris

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am disappointed in the Kid, I thought he would find some cojones.

Twistedsis

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Not1worry, I am with you there. Roddy is acting like a 4 year old on a major sugar high. He must have been extremely worried about what Jason would do. Just wait HotRod the heats just started there in the ole Big Bro kitchen.

Battlestar

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 12:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good for him!

Jason needs his Twosome (Roddy & Danielle) just as much as Danielle needs her Posse to have in the final 3 with him.

You can only protect another person to a certain extent, but the goal should be to win, not just place 2nd--and Roddy would take him to the finals , just as Danielle would

Bmh

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with everything you said C1mag..and a Roddy/Marcie nomination is possible..Dani already is iffy on Marcie has a alliance partner it could happen..it has to happen..Roddy isn't gonna even try for HOH..so this is Dani's chance..this is her chance to take the game in her hands once and for all

Theo17

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Was there ever any doubt after last night? Jason is nominated either next week or the following week and dont be surprised when roddy stabs him in the back like he has tried with amy the last 3 days.

C1mag

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy would NEVER take Jason to the finals. Roddy has no intention of making that final decision. He's going to sit back like Will did and see if someone like Nicole will verbally pick him for the finals. He thinks Jason will. He's working on Lisa and he's already got a verbal promise from Dani that she wouldn't go after him. Marc has promised a final 2 and he's pretty sure Amy would pick him as well. Especially over Jason and Dani and another female like Lisa. Roddy thinks he has got them all in a corner so that they have to take him to the finals or suffer the loss of integrity. Jason proved that this approach can work when Jason didn't nominate him. The second Dani is booted Roddy has this game. The remaining players will all be running to his side. It's grotesque to watch it, but yet it's still fun. Much better than last year. Less fluff and a lot more strategy. Just hate to see a bunch of fools being played out by one person.

Woodpecke®

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy is gone long before the Final Four.

Bmh

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag..as long as Dani doesn't get evicted..the game is still up in the air..so hopefully she will be here in 2 weeks..because you are right..as soon as she is out the door..Roddy has the game won..and that is a scary thought..

Shrike3000

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Battlestar , you have it figured out, just like I do, and I suspect, just like Jason does.

C1mag

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bmh I still am crossing my fingers because I don't think Dani see's just how vulnerable Jason is until Roddy is gone. I really think that if she got hoh she would think Roddy was gone with an Amy and Roddy boot and I still think Jason would save Roddy and Marcellus would sale amy out and keep Roddy. We already know she is so damn edgy in this game. I think the thought will go right over her head and on Tuesday Jason will tell her that he doesn't feel good about evicting Roddy over Amy and Dani will concede and run to Marcellus to get that second vote and Marcellus will betray her and boot Amy.

The following week Dani would be real vulnerable to getting booted if either Marcellus or Roddy got hoh. Roddy could actually get hoh and nominate her as the target since she broke her word that she would Never nominate him. He's have someone he can safely target so he could actually try for hoh at that point. Then in a tie vote he would boot her. Marcellus would do the same thing to her. Her nominations need to be Marcellus and Roddy this coming week and she isn't gonna do it.

Wendo

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag, the problem with your theory about Roddy not going for HOH is Jason told Roddy last night (during yet another long buddy talk) that people mentioned Roddy's name for nomination. He said to Jason, Guess I need to try and win HOH.

Had Jason kept his trap shut, then I would agree. However, Jason tipped him off (intentional or not) that other HG's were interested in getting him out.

C1mag

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wood... "Roddy is gone LONG before the final four" I am laughing at that suggestion because actually since he is safe this week there are only two more people to go and then there is the final four. That isn't exactly a LONG time. Roddy still has a hell of a chance in this game. Jason has opened the door for him. He probably will be nominated this week but he could easily beat Amy in a vote and the house is slowly being tainted into the belief that Amy needs to go next. That little head game started on Saturday. Right now the house is still playing the game based on Roddys rules of integrity. As long as they do he has this game. He's made it much further than you ever thought he would at this point.

C1mag

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo I didn't know that the kid screwed up yet again. Why would he tell him that? Damn it! See this proves to me that the kid wants Roddy in this game for some sick twisted reason. He thinks Roddy DESERVES to be in the finals. I will say this... If Roddy gets hoh he will not nominate Dani or Jason. There will be a reason for this. He will show Dani that he kept his word to her and so from there on out she would be forced to protect him if she got hoh. Roddy will target Amy if he gets hoh. I just don't think he will try because even if he could only come up with one nomination he would be pushed in a corner to break his word to someone and that is the key to his strategy. You know, I am even more convinced that Jason just needs to write that damn check out to Roddy and let them all go home. Why in hell would he tell him that?

Bmh

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag I agree..but I was readin the live feeds last night and Marcie,Dani,and Lisa had a long conversation and they all agreed after Gerry goes this week..Roddy HAS to go next or he will never go..I am not sure if Marcie is playing her or not..but they all agreed to do their best to get him out next week..so who knows what will happen..Roddy is still in a very venerable position if he doesn't win HOH..he still needs to watch out

Eden

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just because Roddy says something doesn't mean it has any bearing on his actual intention, Wendo.

C1mag

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy is too good at playing this game and if he is up against Amy I am convinced he could talk Marcellus into getting rid of Amy. Marcellus also knows that Roddy would hopefully, eventually go after Dani for him. Marcellus did say that there are two people he does not want to see in the finals... Gerry ( he's finally getting rid of him this week) and Danielle. If he keeps Roddy around then he wants Roddy to be the one to put her up. The second that Amy is evicted Dani is very vulnerable to get the boot as long as Roddy is there.

Woodpecke®

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Laugh all you want C1Mag. The man played his hand far too early and they are on to him. Jason took the easy way out, but that does not change anything. Roddy isn't winning big money and the overblown analysis on Roddy's power only means something if he is in the finals. He is not going to the final two, and the volume of posts by many on this board about his cult-like ability continue to amaze me. He saved himself from nothing. It just keeps getting pushed back because other players are in the way. I am focusing on players in this game that can win, not players that think they will.

Kendalia

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Please oh please let Lisa get HOH...

That's the only way I'm positive Roddy will go next week.

C1mag

Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy will only be booted if he is put up against Marcellus. If Roddy is up againts Jason he could get booted if that nomination was made by either Amy or Marcellus which is possible. Marcellus mentioned it last night. Any other way gives Roddy a door way to get through.