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Archive through August 20, 2002
Minkster1973 | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 09:46 am     As most of you already know, I am a huge fan of Roddy. I really want him to win it all. You also know that I am no fan at all of Danielle's. Anyway, after reading the threads from yesterday and last night and coming in and reading the message boards as well, I must say that 1) if Danielle decides to stick to her guns and get Roddy voted out, she deserves to win it all, and 2) if Roddy is able to get out of this one, he deserves to win. I find it VERY hard to believe that EVERYONE voting for Roddy to leave will not get back to him today. Someone will run his/her mouth.....my guess is Marcellus....after Danielle pushes him too far. Even if Roddy does hear about it, I still don't think he has the ability to do anything about it. Lisa's smartest move is to align herself with Roddy. That would guarantee her at least second place...with Danielle/Jason she is only going to come in third. Lisa has the ability to change the whole game here, and until I see DR discussions with her laughing her butt off at Danielle's over-confidence, I'm convinced that the winner of this game will be Danielle or Marcellus. |
Zachsmom | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 09:51 am     Well.. I am a huge Roddy fan too..and I don't think if Roddy goes that Danielle deserves to win..I wish Amy would have went with her original plan and put someone other than Roddy up..I never thought Roddy derseved to win ( I am rooting for lisa/jason final) but I don't like how danielle stated that she would never do that to amy (Vote out Roddy)..I don't like how she plays.. |
Delilah | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 09:53 am     I agree with you Minkster. I too am a Roddy fan and do not like Danielle. I agree with your scenario that if Roddy gets by this week, he should win. Someone is bound to turn on Danielle. I am hoping against hope that Chiara goes this week. If Chiara goes and Lisa alligns with Roddy she would win over Roddy or at least it would be a very close race. I like Lisa and hope she can make it to the end, preferably with Roddy or Jason. ::::edited to add, Hi Z!! I knew I would find you here! We are still thinking alike::::  |
Bailey | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 09:54 am     I think they're going to go thru with it this time and Roddy's out the door on Thursday. I'm not a Dani fan either, but it looks like there's no way she can lose at this point. If Marcellas and Gerry were smart they would've aligned themselves to Roddy and could've easily strengthened their position with a Roddy/Marc/Gerry/Amy alliance. Gerry not using the POV yesterday was a huge mistake. They just handed first place to Dani. I hope I'm wrong.. but I can't see any other scenario coming out of this once Roddy leaves. |
Zachsmom | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 09:54 am     Delilah my love!!! |
Delilah | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 09:56 am     Hi sweetie! Us Rodster fans have to protect eachother!  |
Jagger | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 09:56 am     I too am a fan of Roddy, but I also like Danny, Jason and Lisa. I'm not sure Danny has the votes she is looking for. I don't beleive she has Mars or Gerry, that only leaves Jason and Lisa and herself. She is looking for everyone else to do her dirty work, the same as Roddy has been doing, I think the only way she will get Roddy out is if she actually votes him out and I don't think she will, she is too chicken to go against her word. I'm not sure about Lisa, Lisa had a very interesting convo the other night with Mars and Amy, which to my knowledge she has not shared with Danny yet, so she may just be playing Danny. I agree if Roddy is still in the house after Thursdays vote he deserves to at least make it to the final two, I would still rather see Jason win. |
Amac | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 09:56 am     I'm more of a Dani fan than a Roddy fan (and would like to see him out on Thursday), but either or both in the final would be appropriate because a) they are the two best game players of BB3, and b) they are the only two not to ride the back of another player to further themselves. |
Minkster1973 | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 09:59 am     Yea, I definitely like the new Lisa. I couldn't stand her when Eric was in the house. Now I'm just crazy about her....so if Roddy goes this week, I will certainly be pulling for Lisa to pull the wool over everyone's eyes and win it all.....I have to agree with a post I read earlier about Jason being boring. I just don't get a lot of entertainment out of him. He isn't funny, he doesn't talk much, and he isn't taking a stand on any issues in the house. You'd think his A$$ would be hurting from sitting on the fence for so many weeks. Jason is not even close to being one of my favorites. I don't hate him though...I definitely like him more than I like Danielle, Amy, and Marcellus. |
Minkster1973 | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:03 am     Amac, when a player uses other players to do their dirty work, they ARE riding on the backs of other players. Both Danielle and Roddy are guilty of this, although I think Danielle is the worst of the two. I guess my whole opinion about Danielle is that I can't stand to hear her talk about how much she NEEDS the money and she won't be able to face her family if she doesn't win. BARF! I wish I could afford to put my son in private school. I wish I could afford to get my nails done. I wish I could afford to take three months off of work to go hang out in the BB house. Give me a break! |
Bailey | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:04 am     Amac, I respectfully disagree. Dani rode on the backs of everyone to get where she is now. She is the reason Amy put Roddy up this week.. Amy didn't want to, but Dani insured her that Chiara would be going anyway. She strong-armed the nominations this week and it's turning out exactly as she planned. Zachsmom, well put! I don't like how Dani plays the game either. |
Delilah | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:04 am     :::::Delilah slips out of deep lurk mode for a minute::::: Let's put it this way - the two leaders have emerged. Dani and Rodster are wide open for all to see. Rod has dumped chiapet (albeit, a tad too late) and now it is Roddy against Danielle. Marcie, Gerry, Lisa and Jason need to decide who they would be better off with and they need to decide it today and tomorrow before the vote. If he can turn things around, bend some ears - esp those of Jason and Marcie he will stay. The battlefield is wide open now and I am hoping Dani's strategy does NOT work and I am NOT giving up yet. I think Roddy has an excellent chance of talking the talk with the core four (L,J,G,M) and making them believe they would be better off with him through the finals. Or would it be easier to win against Dani? Hmmmmm.... Either way, I am hoping that Chia is out, then I can relax and enjoy. Can't take my boy being on the block two weeks in a row and it has been tough being here with all the Roddy bashing going on  |
Zachsmom | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:05 am     Delilah..We may have a sob fest come thursday night..be sure to get your black dresses cleaned for days of morning.. As long as they get Chiara out next week and Danny out the following..I won't care who wins!! |
Crazydog | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:06 am     Bailey, I agree that Gerry should have teamed up with Roddy, Amy and Marc. He should have used the veto, but he, like the others, was short-sighted. Gerry just wanted to get rid of his biggest threat but doesn't seem to realize that he is expendable once Roddy is gone. Dani just wanted to get rid of her biggest threat but doesn't seem to realize that with Roddy gone, Gerry will be gunning for her and possibly ally with Amy and Marc. I don't think Dani's got the game sewn up. In fact, I doubt that she can win a final vote - she's made too many deals and backstabbed too many people. Her best option, once Roddy is gone, is to convince Chiara to join with them. Ironically, they need her to ensure a numbers advantage. The four of them oust Gerry. Then they drop Chiara. Then Marc. Then Amy. The three of them duke it out for HoH. If Jason doesn't win it, he's toast. Lisa and Dani in the finals. Lisa wins. |
Bailey | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:11 am     I think Lisa and Jason are so deeply aligned to Dani, there's no way they'll switch alliances now. I happen to like the new Lisa too.. but would really like to see her rise to the top with an independent strategy. It doesn't look like that's likely to happen. Same goes for Jason. |
Minkster1973 | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:13 am     I don't know about that....Crazydog.....Leaving Marcellus in for so long is very risky considering he is figuring stuff out. Chiara is stupid....keep her around.....drop Gerry cuz he's playing too darn well, then Marcellus, then Amy after that and finally.....get Chiara out of there. Chiara is by NO MEANS a threat of winning or figuring out the strategy. We've already seen that she has no clue whatsoever. |
Delilah | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:14 am     Exactly Crazy! The only reason Gerry is there is because of Roddy who is his ONLY ally! Without Roddy, Gerry is toast, so is Marcellas. Dani will have Lisa and Jason to manipulate. Roddy was Josh's only ally, Roddy is a decent person and has been true to his word. I could care less what you all say about him, I will not change my mind about him one iota. Gerry and Marcellas and Jason need to ditch Dani and align with Roddy. If he had G,M and J's votes against Dani and Lisa, he would stay, there cannot be a tie this week.... If Roddy does go, yes I will mourn and blubber on Zachsmom's shoulder but soon I will recover and root 100% for Lisa to win. The one who deserves to win is one who has overcome the most, changed and grown the most, sorry folks, that is not Jaybird. He has coasted along and although I love him to death, he hasn't had to make any efforts whatsoever. Anyone who takes him to the end would lose, even Dani has to realize that. |
Bailey | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:16 am     Crazydog, I hope you're right! But seeing Dani even getting 2nd place doesn't thrill me either. I just don't like how she played the game.. there is something so sinister about it. |
Minkster1973 | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:17 am     Bailey, that is why I cannot wait to see Lisa's DR discussions. I would LOVE to see her sitting there on that chair talking about how Danielle thinks she is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO smart. An evil eye and a wink for Eric...and then on with the game. If Lisa wants to win....she needs to align herself with Roddy.....she'd win in the final vote if that happened. |
Bailey | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:21 am     Minkster, I would love to see that too. Now once I get over mourning the loss of Roddy this week, I can get on with the game and hope Lisa comes thru for us. |
Delilah | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:21 am     Lisa should align herself with Roddy for Eric. Gerry should be her target, not Roddy. I would love to see a Lisa/Roddy final where Lisa wins, that I could live with! I am so suprised that Lisa is as sucked in with Dani as she is, I want a strong, independent Lisa not a sidekick! |
Kearie | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:22 am     What's wrong with "riding on the backs of others"? What's wrong with having others do their dirty work. We are talking 500K here up for grabs. Stradegy is what will win this game. I think both Roddy and Dani went into the game with a plan and they both executed there plans well. Sometimes when playing chess you have to sacrifice a peice to force your opponent to make a certain move. You have to manipulate things to have a chance at winning. You have to think and plan ahead. You have to manipulate things to a degree to get a certain outcome. I think for half a million I would have a plan, get others to do my dirty work and stay under the radar as long as I could. I actually don't think Dani is nearly as manipulative as Roddy. I think Roddy preys on peoples emotions and causes pain for others. I see Dani as discussing "the logical choice" with others and using logic to get others to see things her way. She rides the backs of others, so to speak, but she allows the others to make their own choices. |
Zachsmom | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:23 am     I think it would be awesome if danny left at third..and then she could go home and tell her babies she lost because she didn't keep her word! |
Amac | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:24 am     I see Chiara as a prime example of someone who's riding another's back (Roddy) to further herself in the game. Roddy and Dani I view more as using others to advance themselves. But that's JMHO. Gerry is also an example of someone who's gotten this far without riding someone's back. If by some miracle he is in the final two he will owe his position to nobody. |
Crazydog | Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:28 am     Oh, I don't know Bailey, seeing Dani all confident that she is going to win and then having her fall flat on her face... there is some satisfaction in that. I compare Dani very much to Nicole, the self-styled Dragon Lady. Both of them are supremely overconfident and downright vicious about who they want out. Nicole alienated a lot of people with that strategy, the same is starting to happen to Dani. Minkster, I agree that Lisa's best move is to join with Roddy. She has talked about playing heartless but all she's done is join with Dani. I think she only dislikes Roddy because of his association with her nemesis Chiara. Roddy has been kind to her and told her he wanted her to replace Eric, i.e. be the person he takes to the finals. But Lisa's ego was offended by that suggestion, she seems to think she can do it on her own. Instead of being the King's servant she decided to be the Queen's. She and Roddy would be a good match if she did it surreptitiously. Unfortunately, I think she does not have the courage to do so and makes the road a little harder for her. |
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