Hero Worship
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Woofy | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:03 pm     Josh's feeling for Roddy is a textbook example of hero worship. |
Nermal | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:08 pm     I thought it was more like psychotic infatuation. The stuff stalkers are made of. |
Whit4you | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:16 pm     Well ya'all can call it whatever you want but I have several friends who care about me like that and visa versa and I personally see nothing wrong with it......>> |
Spunky | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:17 pm     The guy needs help and fast!!! |
Maris | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:19 pm     There was something kind of pathetic listening to Josh tell Roddy how much he loves him. Roddy clearly doesn't have feelings remotely close to that and he just wants to keep Josh on the even keel till he goes out of the house. It is very sad and I will really feel for the poor guy once he gets out of the house and sees he was used by Roddy. |
Ellenkats | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:34 pm     I think Josh would have latched onto anyone who treated him half-way decently. Roddy tries to stay calm and gives the illusion he's offering genuine friendship -- he was too easy a target for Josh's neediness, imo. |
Maris | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:36 pm     Conversely Ellen you could say that Josh was too easy a target for Roddy's megalomaniacal personality. |
Eden | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:45 pm     I see Josh and Roddy as a wholly one sided relationship. Outside of this house Roddy wouldn't have given Josh the time of day. I see him avoiding Josh's calls like the needy plague after the game is through. |
Muse | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:52 pm     I think that Josh takes it extremely personally whenever he feels that someone in the house has betrayed him. So that list would include Gerry (for using the veto), Jason (for voting for Eric), Lisa (for voting for Josh), Chiara (for voting for Josh, and for nominating him), Marcellas (for nominating him), Tonya (for getting the girls to vote for him instead of her), and Eric (for trying to get him nominated). He doesn't seem to have any problems with Amy or Lori, but they're gone. The only ones who haven't "betrayed" him are Danielle and Roddy, and they're the people he wants in the final two. Of course then he overheard Danielle bashing him, so now he has a grudge against her. Since he takes the game so personally, the only person he likes is Roddy. And I think he overdoes it because he feels so hurt by what the others have done...he makes Roddy into some sort of hero that he's really not. I think Roddy is vaguely uncomfortable with all the "I love you, Roddy"s, but he's accepting them out of pity and a sense of loyalty (now that he feels that Josh was pretty much loyal to him). If Josh wasn't so firmly devoted to him, I could see Roddy doing something like what Eric did...get along with Josh while in the house, but say that he normally wouldn't be friends with someone like Josh outside of the house. |
Aria | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 11:32 pm     I really felt for Josh this show. This show just made my Roddy stock dive into negative territory. How is it possible to sit there and be so void of compassion and integrity? Watching him tell heartbroken Josh that he, Josh doesn't want to be remembered as the guy who was angry and walked out and that they should just forget about campaigning and have fun! He should have said well now that I have won the vote how about a week of duck ball, sound good to you Joshie? How patronizing! He clearly knows that Josh has a genuine respect for him (although I can't imagine why) and he purposefully tramples all over what little good nature Josh has. ARGH! I tell ya this guy is as mean as a snake!  |
Maris | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 11:37 pm     Well Josh is no dope either. I just watched him on the feeds tell Dani and Jason that when HGs get out of hte house they can see more than just Diary room entries. There are plenty of places on the net, lots of message boards taht will talk about who did what to who. All the information is out there. SO JOSHIE, ALL THE INFORMATION IS OUT THERE. START RIGHT HERE. YOU GOT SCREWED BY RODDY!!!! |
Aria | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 11:52 pm     YEAH JOSH WHAT MARIS SAID! LOL Maris! Are you sure he isn't a dope? He sure acted like one all week? Or was that just his version of a nervous breakdown? LMAO!  |
Soonergal | Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 05:20 am     Okay, here's what I make of Josh/Roddy. Josh has gotten blubbery over being nominated before. Dani had to calm him down the first time and told him to keep it together. Then again with Roddy over the new nomination. His core issue is rejection. Obviously he has spent his life being rejected by others. Note his comment that he has so few friends on the outside. Possibly even rejection by his family (?). Roddy is a father figure to him, and to be rejected by your father is, of course, ultimately one of the biggest rejections in life. As a defense mechanism, Josh has overcompensated by being the know-it-all, abrasive, rude guy that doesn't need other's approval. But little Joshie needs his daddy figure to give him the unconditional acceptance he thought he had from Roddy, and the idea that Roddy thought Josh would nominate him shows how shallow that bond is. The feeling of rejection probably takes him right back to childhood and not being able to please daddy or get chosen for a pick-up game of baseball. CORE ISSUE: REJECTION RODDY: DADDY Sad, sad little boy. |
Bogey | Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 08:05 am     Josh is one sad guy, and by that I mean pathetic. I don't understand how he can justify feeling so "betrayed" blah blah, when he's been playing, and lying and the whole bit. I know your perspective must get warped in there, but does he really believe that no one else should be allowed to play the game to win, just him? All I know is if I see the wussy crying again I'm going to throw up. As a side note, everyone was saying how funny Josh was. Does anyone else think he's funny? Farting on people? That was funny in grade 2, after that, not so much. What is it with Roddy that attracts total dependence on him? Both Josh and Chiara glommed onto him with an unusual ferocity. I know he's good looking and intellegent but it seems a little extreme. I wonder if he attracts this kind of person in real life. |
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