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Gina8642

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Speaking of following your own hygiene advice - did anyone catch Dani taking a swig directly out of the Listerine? Now that is nasty.

I'm certainly not going to pass a Marc's hygiene test, but I make sure NOT to drink directly from the Listerine. The point is to kill germs, not contaminate the bottle with your germs.

And yes, you can contaminate a disineftent, I remember learning that somewhere - I think in organic chem lab at university.

Ick, ick, ick

C1mag

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Lisa will suggest to Dani that it might be for the best to go with Chiara because it won't sit well with Amy and Marcellus. I still think Lisa is in it with Dani. She's got no one else to align with right now. Plus I really think Lisa wants to get rid of chiara but she has been doing this for Dani because Dani keeps throwing Roddy up as the one too go. Lisa wants to play it clean with someone she thinks has her best interest. I think Dani does have her best interest at heart and Lisa knows this, however I think she will lay it out to Dani real carefully as to not cause a fight.

Wendo

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It's funny isn't it. Just when you think you know what likely will happen, the game turns and someone shoots themselves in the foot.

I cannot see Dani winning this game anymore. Yes, C1mag, she really slid down the list today, didn't she?

And, Roddy will still be there. Minding his kingdom. LOL! How funny.

Gouraphik

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Speaking in terms of self-interest, or realpolitik, it's in Gerry's best interest to make a deal with Roddy. If he can get Roddy to promise not to nom him if he gets HOH, to Veto him out if he gets POV, and to not vote to evict him if he's on the block, then bully for him.

The mere existence of Roddy in the house will prolong Gerry's stay...especially if Danielle's still in the house. I don't think that the Amy deal (if it's still applicable) would deter Gerry from aligning himself with Roddy. The end goal of the Amy deal (Chiara stays on the block & gets evicted) would still be possible. Breaking his word in this manner would merely violate the word, but not the spirit, of the deal.

Danielle needs to figure out a way to offer Gerry a deal with tangible, real benefits. No cheap and unenforcable vows "on her kids lives". She needs to give him either a real benefit (like a non-aggression pact) or better yet, real collateral (although I'm not sure what...maybe her wardrobe?).

This show just gets better and better, doesn't it? :)

C1mag

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
and poor Lisa is now sitting at the table and has to digest who is the bigger ass? Dani for controling people into doing what she wants or Chiara for letting Roddy manipulate her into voting against her? I'm thinkin Lisa is wishing she were home LOL

C1mag

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gour I totally agree. Gerry would be one smart man if he kept Roddy. Gerry should play for himself. Roddy in the house is Gerrys benefit. I don't even think Dani is thinking clear anymore. She probably doesn't even feel the need to go to Gerry at this point. BIG mistake. I kept asking myself why is she even talking to marcellus about Roddy going when the POV meeting hasn't taken place yet? does she know what Gerry will do? Is she that confident? Why in hell would she try to play Chaira at this point into believing she saved her back and that Marc and amy were out to get her? Thats stuff you do after you know Roddy is going for sure.

Keiffer

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Did I say that Danny lied to Marcy today? I don't think I did... but she has lied to Marcy, and Amy numerous times, and if she sollows through on her plans this week she will actually betray them.

I was just pointing out that Roddy did not have to lie in his conversation with Marcy talking about Danny in any way. That I can not remember, or have I had a Roddy lie pointed out to me.

C1mag

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And as I predicted Roddy sits and plays chess with Gerry as Gerry lounges back just waiting for the deal of the century. I'm totally disappointed in Dani.

Maris

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
now what is Dani up to. Making little snide comments to Chiaras "war stories". She is rolling her eyes, looking at amy and Lisa. She wanted Amy to sit next to her but Amy didnt want to. I wonder if it was because Dani wanted to kick her under the table.

Dani looks like she is trying to get a fight going. She suggested that they drink all the beer and the wine.

Zeyna

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer, I don't believe that Roddy has once lied during the entire game. His goal is to go to the end without a lie and prove to be the opposite of Will, which is why he's so worried about anything he says. I'm not sure this is possible in the ending weeks of the game, if he by some chance gets there. To be in a house with 3 people might require him to tell a fib here or there.

Skol

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani has got too many things going on right now and it's starting to show. This is what Roddy did and it's the reason he's in trouble now. He had a thing with Gerry, a thing with Eric, a thing with Chiara, a thing with Josh. Eventually it starts to come out when people start talking which they always do in the end. Dani has a thing with Lisa, a thing with Mars, a thing with Jason and a thing with Chiara. She's telling all these people she has their backs. All it takes is for two of them to sit down together and discuss it, and she's just jumped to top of the hit list.

C1mag

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So the goal is too get Amy drunk? Don't see the point. The woman can out drink them all and the drunker they get the more tired they get and Dani goes to bed and Roddy has all night to play Gerry into a veto. Alright, did josh come back to the house through Dani's body? Why the hell isn't Dani playing Gerry? Did we the viewers miss Gerry promising he WON't use veto? Why isn't she concerned?

C1mag

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Zeyn yes Roddy has lied. He told Marc on Friday that chiara told him the second that Amy was back in the house that he was NOT to hang around her. He then said to him please don't say anything. Chiara NEVER said this to him! Last night he said quietly to Amy that he wanted to hang out with her and Marc but Chiara was too upset about it. He told Chiara that Lisa would vote her out if she had the chance. He had not ever heard Lisa say that. We will call that a half truth only because he could say Josh told him that. He has told many that Jason LIED to him about voting to save Eric. Jason NEVER said who he was evicting. Yep Roddy has lied but he could cover the lies by saying... " I thought thats what you meant" or "Someone else told me that" Yet they are lies. They are head game lies. Don't get me started on this guy. He is a megga mind f__ker and the sad thing is that the one person who could have gotten him out made a major mistake all on her own today.

Wcv63

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Zeyna what we call lies Roddy calls "misinformation." Changing the name doesn't change the facts though. Yes Roddy has lied. They all have. No one can claim otherwise....without lying!

C1mag

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I posted this on the thread about Gerry using veto. It just doesn't make since why Dani spilled the beans to Marcellus without knowing for sure if Gerry would use the veto. Read below and then tell me what you think?

I'm beginning to wonder if right after the veto Gerry made it clear to Dani that he wasn't going to Veto so this is why she went to Marcellus. It just doesn't make since that she would blabber to Marcellus without knowing what Gerry is doing for sure. I think he must have told her already and promised. She isn't this STUPID! At least I don't think she is. She would be working him right now and not allowing Roddy to play chess with the man at all. Instead she is drinking herself into early bedtime. Maybe the deal is already sealed and Gerry isn't gonna veto? There seems to be no concern about what Gerry is gonna do. We would have missed Gerry telling her this if it was right after pov game.

Dee723

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hmm, but could that change if Amy decides she'd rather have Roddy around for sure and goes to Gerry?

C1mag

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dee it all depends on who Gerry supports more. Dani or Amy? In this case I'd say he will side with Dani. He has said to her face he wants her to win the game. Plus maybe he would think it was a personal victory to get Roddy out before he goes.

Skol

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 09:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It's not about support though. It's about staying in the game. Gerry would be one dumb man if he doesn't use this veto to his advantage. He has the opportunity to gain a lot from it. This game is about power and who has it. When one side gets too much, they have to be trimmed a little. Roddy's powerbase has disappeared. He's alone after Chiara goes. He's no threat to anybody. The biggest threat now is the other powerbase and one of them needs to go.

Moedog

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 09:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Agreement with Gerry or not, Dani should have been smart enough to wait until after the POV meeting to make sure Gerry would not use the veto. She told Jason and Lisa to shut up and not reveal their plan to oust Roddy, then she blabs to Marc. She screwed up royally! Lisa heard what Marc told Amy, and was probably boiling inside that Dani opened her big mouth. I hope Lisa and Jason are re-thinking thier alliance with Dani.

Seamonkey

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 09:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy has always wanted Roddy around and wanted Chiara gone. Gerry knows this. She was planning to not even nominate Roddy, but probably Jason. She got Gerry's promise that he'd vote Chiara out, not Jason.. he had no problem with that.

I think both Gerry AND Amy would want to keep Roddy over Chiara, so I don't see Gerry using the veto UNLESS he vetoes out Roddy.


I also think Lisa is well aware, or becoming so, of how Dani is playing people, including Marcellas. Dani's been pumping Lisa with how Marcellas has now become unworthy of being in Dani's last three, so now she wants Lisa.. but hey, maybe Lisa's last three doesn't include Dani???

I have a feeling Dani is sitting back and hoping that both Amy and Chiara WILL get very drunk and that all hell will break loose.. and that lips will loosen and lots of "stuff" will spew out.. then Dani the spider can snare info in her web and later spin things her way.

Gouraphik

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 09:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Gerry wants to make a deal with Roddy, he may have to start the negotiations. Roddy might be too demoralized to turn on the Reality Distortion Field right now. It doesn't matter. Even if Roddy's as limp and weak as a ragdoll, he's still better alive than dead for Gerry's purposes.

Gerry needs to start cutting a deal (and quit "cutting the cheese"...LOL :)).

Eden

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 09:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
All right, I'm grasping at straws...Could it be that Danielle said all she did to Marcellas as a way to test his allegiance to her? He failed to use his influence with Amy as he had promised and forced her to convince Amy to nominate Roddy. I think she sees that Marcellas is moving into Roddy's camp and after his performance today, if I were she, I would be sure of it. I agree she needs to be talking to Gerry if she hasn't already. If she is sure Gerry won't change the nominations then she can proceed as planned to get rid of Roddy and morf her strategy to take in Chiara and take on Amy and Marcellas.

I think I just heard Marcellas telling Jason that he thinks Gerry is just going to keep the nominations as they are. Did I hear rightly? I HOPE! I HOPE! I HOPE!!!

Spree17

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 09:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
or is marcy playing jason now? No telling. its amazing that Marcy has the most influence with gerry because nobody hates gerry as much as marcy. Gerry has no clue about that but almost everyone else in the house knows. Its strange how that never gets back to gerry. I bet by late next week gerry finds out what marcy has been saying about him.

Moedog

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 09:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope Gerry finds out how Marc feels about him very soon. He'll be devastated whenever it happens, but I hope it happens in the house where he can use the info to develop his strategy. Marc needs to be outted for the mean, cruel person he is.

Gouraphik

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 09:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Or perhaps Gerry knows all about it and is just keeping mum on the subject until the time comes to get rid of Marcellas. Gerry didn't say much about Josh's slurs against him until it became obvious that Josh was a real target for eviction.

It's hard to say, really.