Will Jason take the bait??? (Roddy)
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Spunky

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 11:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am reading the updates and it's unbelievable how you guys can transcribe the whole conversation.
Kudos to you all.

Anyway, Roddy is explaining to Jason how he's lost "his supporters" and is looking for replacements. I can see how desperately Jason is trying to remain neutral and to explain to Roddy how he doesn't like to make deals.
But Roddy insists ..."well you know, I will stay with you till the end...you know...."

Oh Jason, show me you're smarter than that and never make any promises.

Kyline

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 11:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy is pretty much pressuring Jason into aggreeing on a two-man alliance, IMO. It'll be interesting to see how Jason responds. I hope he honors his deal with Danielle.

Although, come to think of it, has Jason ever explicitly said that he supports Danielle over all others? I know she says her one goal is to get the two of them to the end, but I'm not sure I've heard him specifically say that.

I'll be very disappointed in Jason if he goes along with Roddy. This is one case where I hope Jason tells a flat-out lie. Tell Roddy you'll be his ally. If he's going to put Jason under the microscope that way, he deserves to be lied to.

I don't mean to sound so cynical LOL. I'm just very disappointed in our hamsters this week:(

Dagny

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 11:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You can't tell me Dani plans to honor her alliance with Jason till the end.. ???

Spunky

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 11:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, Danielle may want Jason till the end but I'm afraid she'll lose to him with the jury's vote. Who else would she want there with her, none of the rest could deserve it better than Jason and Danielle.

Dagny

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 11:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
But Dani wants the money... could she possibly think she could beat Jason? Maybe...but most think Jason would be tough to beat. I have my doubts that she will stay true to him till the end.

Muse

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 11:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it's difficult to predict who would win if Jason and Danielle were the final two. Jason is very likable, but people are fond of Danielle, too. And by appearing so innocent and naive, people might be disappointed in him when they realize he's actually playing the game. They might feel betrayed. Plus there's the whole "he's young and doesn't have a family to support" angle, too.

I don't think Jason will outright agree to the alliance with Roddy. He just doesn't want to lie like that. Maybe he'll come up with something to get Roddy to feel a little more secure (or maybe Roddy will just get the point and back off - he's made several attempts to pin Jason down now), but I don't see him specifically saying he'll form a two-man alliance with him. I could be wrong, though. Especially if Roddy gets really specific in their talks.

I think Jason is very loyal to Danielle, and vice versa.

Spunky

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 11:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The last two can't vote each other off. Jason and Danielle could possible live in the house for the last couple of days. The jury then will decide.
I'm not sure what happens when there are only three left, like Jason, Danielle and Lisa.
One of the three could get one out and if Danielle has that chance she MAY get Jason out hoping to win against Lisa.

Guiltyviewer

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 12:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Danielle has said several times that she wants she and Jason in the final two spots, and would even be totally content taking second prize ($50,000)because it's enough for a down payment for the house she wants (that's her goal for playing this game, often stated)---I'd be very surprised if she and Jason broke their bond to each other.

Eden

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 12:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, Jason was taken off the Roddy hook cause Danielle scurried out there to interrupt that conversation.

Roddy's making his plays to regroup...Lisa, now, Jason. He has Chiara in his hip pocket. If Eric returns he figures he's set. Of course, he thought that a couple of weeks ago too.

Wendo

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 12:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If I'm recalling correctly, Jason stated in a DR entry a few shows back that his first priority is to Danielle. He will always have her back.

Wendo

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 12:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, and to add, this is why C1mag and I continue to insist that, while Roddy has lost some allies, he is still the biggest threat in that house. He is a kingdom unto his own. His ability to assess a situation, regroup, and manipulate is why he is so dangerous to the other players. Him trying to "force" Jason into submitting is one of the reasons I just don't dig Roddy. B/c if Jason doesn't submit, then Roddy will trot out the threat of noming him (if he gets HOH.) Dirty player. Good player, but dirty too.

Becca

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 12:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
YEs, Roddy's smart to realize he's in a bad place, but he's never bene smart at alliances. His have been easily readable. I don't think he even comprehends the idea that Jason might actually have other loyalties.

Jason's position is actually stronger in the house then Roddy's. (Roddy doesn't know this but it is.) Roddy's downfall is that he wants a lacky not an actually alliance partner my way or the highway. I think he's going to watch the tapes of Jason and Danielle and realize quickly why Jason and Dani are loyal to each other. They boht respect each other enough not to force the ot her to doing things there way I think in some ways he would love to have the closeness of a true alliance, but I think the idea of working with someone (instead of bossing someone around is completely alien to Roddy.)

jason was right on when he said, I came here to win not be someone's little pawn.

Wendo

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 12:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Too bad Roddy didn't approach Jason yesterday. Perhaps the clique would've realized they needed to take the opportunity to boot Roddy.

*slaps the clique upside the head*

Shannonu

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 01:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Posted this in another thread.

Now Roddy knows about D/J/M because of his conversation with Marcellas. Roddy mentioned it (I believe he was just testing the water with this) and Marcellas didn't deny it.

Now Dan and Mar are scared. I bet they both wish they did vote him out this week.

If Roddy gets HOH Dan is definately going up. Not sure about Marcellas because Roddy says he has a deal with him. Maybe Jason.

Roddy is now aware that Jason has support other than himself.

Angelsluv

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 01:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
4:14am (EST) Jason was just telling Danielle about the convo with Roddy *LOL*

Angelsluv

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 01:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason told Dan that he wasn't used to making alliences and that he doesn't know how the game will turn out until tomorrow.. Jason was pretty much keeping himself open and not telling Roddy anything.. As he said this, he also told Dan that he was wondering where he stood with Roddy in comparison to Kiki and Lisa when Roddy said he wanted the 2 of them at the "end"

That was it for this conversation..

C1mag

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 01:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Stay tuned because as stated before... Until Rod is out of that house he is the biggest threat. Never count this dude out until he is reaching for the front door to leave. It's really not important for him to have an "alliance" it's more important to have "supporters" what happens to the supporters? they all go home and he stays in the house! Actually he's right on target with his game. The night before someone else walks into the house and Josh leaves his counting his soldiers. My prediction is that Gerry will be his new sucker, I mean "supporter" Also pay attention... He doesn't need an equal amount of "supporters" to take on the clique. He just needs enough "supporters" to shield him when he thinks he is on the chopping block.

Wendo

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 01:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Right on C1mag, right on.

Roddy is one slick cat.

C1mag

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 01:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
He really is, but those idiots got caught up in the, "Josh must go now cause he's a big ol meanie" routine. Like I've said... Watch out Dani cause you are on Roddys hit list and what Roddy wants, Roddy gets. I hate to say this but I have this feeling that Lisa is gonna go where the wind blows. Gerry is now a free agent and poor Jason just can't play against Roddy. He has the kid under a spell. There were too many variables or "what ifs" that could happen and that is why Roddy should be going right now. Watch this board roll when Dani and Marc are nominated and people ask... Hey I thought Gerry was suppose to go right now? LOL Yeah right!

C1mag

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 01:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo you gotta give Dani some credit here. She is trying so hard to keep Rod away from her boy Jason. That damn Marcellus may end up being another sale out as well. Thats another interesting fact about Roddy. I think that some would consider it an honor to be asked to form a coalition with him. Where the hell do they get these people?

Jake

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 01:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
*lol at WENDO "slapping the clique upside the head"*

I got a visual with that, WENDO... the clique lined up next to each other and when you slap them, their heads bounce off each other like that perpetual motion thang with the silver balls? I had to laugh...

C1mag

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 01:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jake LOL I see the same image. I said before that if any of that clique were my family members or friends I would knock them upside the head for making this decision based on stupid variables that just don't exist right now. They should have just booted Roddy and moved on.

Wendo

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 01:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, C1, I do see Dani doing what she can to keep people around when Roddy tries to "corner" Jason. She's working hard, as she would say.

Ditto on Marcellas. His need for attention from the "cool kids" may have really f*cked it up for Dani and Ja. I can't tell you how much I want that whiney piss ant booted. Collect your insecurity baggage and hit the high road Mar, were not buying that crap today.

I'm betting they called out a cattle call for all the dweebs in high school crowd who have yet to get over they were shunned by the cheerleaders.

Ooh, Jake, perfect. Let's go! LOL!

C1mag is right, and I've said it as well. When you start playing emotionally, that's when you lose in BB. If you all will notice, Roddy has yet to play emotionally. Not at all. Yeah, he was shook up about Eric, but he recovered quickly. Compare that with Marcellas who has YET to let go of his first week nomination.

Aus10

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 05:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Marc isn't upset that he was shunned by cheerleaders. Just jealous that he didn't get to wear their pretty skirts and tight sweaters. ;)

Spunky

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 08:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, it's time now to see the real Jason. He will have to take a stand sooner or later, say either "no" to Roddy and Danielle, or stick with one, preferably Danielle.

Maris

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 08:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I dont see any problem for Jason in avoiding Roddy since Roddy is so good at avoiding actually saying "you are with me or against me". Roddy's pitch to Jason last night was almost painful to watch as he danced around the commitment issue. It was easy to avoid saying I am with you. They are both masters at avoidance.

Wcv63

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 11:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I missed this conversation but from everything I've read here, it sounds like they were both going up and down on a carousel horse and cirling the central issue.

Jason said he knows he's going to have to lie. The time is NOW Jason....the time is NOW!!!! Do you think he would hear us if we collectively shouted towards California at say.....4pm BB time today? C'mon guys...a little organized international shout! It'll be fun!

Jake

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 11:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I see them as Sumo Wrestlers, WCV63... legs akimbo... squaring off to each other in the ring... they advance... they grapple... they pull on each others' diapers.. then they retreat again to their respective places in the ring! *rotfl*