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Wcv63

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 08:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Rain...I don't think that Roddy is Satan Incarnate. But I do think that his charm and charisma is smarmy and creepy. Gouraphik (a fine and clever board poster) has coined a phrase for Roddy's "charm". The Reality Distortion Field.

You will notice this terminology has been widely adopted by others here on the board and I personally find it to be a wonderfully descriptive way of saying that Roddy has a way of distorting facts, twisting words and manipulating emotions.

Christy358

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 08:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think we do see the Real Roddy every day. He really is this manipulative to those around him every day.

I also think he is always on the lookout for "plausible deniability" As long as when he has a conversation he does not come out and say what he wants them to think, he can deny it later.

Thursday night, when he was in the hammock with Mari, he said... "Do not create a sound bite." and he spent a lot of time not saying anything, but the end result of the conversation was that he
let Marci go away feeling smart for figuring out
what he had not said.

That is manipulative, and lets him deny anything to anyone.

I think Roddy did big time homework on Big Brother before he went into the house. How could a man who studies everything not study this?

What555456

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually, putting up Jason against Chiarra would be a great thing to do. It would be very interesting to see how Jason would handle such a situation. He could no longer play things behind the scenes. He would need to step out and actually do something open and public.

Could be very interesting to see. It would also be very interesting to see people debating the merits of keeping Chiarra or Jason.

Very interesting, indeed.

Tippet

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What555456, I didn't even think of that. I would like to see how Jason handles it. He has been like a nonentity to me, just Danielle's sidekick.

Bkmac

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Whit I'm not sure Jason would step up and handle it publically. I suspect he might just act as if it wasn't a discussable issue (in public) while continuing private discussion with Dani to strategize how votes are going. Dani will apply her "say it without actually saying it" strategy to the rest of the house for him, ensuring he has the votes to stay in.

Spree17

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If I was Jason I wouldnt campaign at all. Just be totally innocent and say I respect Amy a lot and I'm sure she followed her heart. By the way dani telli Amy to follow her heart is a bad move because she wants roddys package. She should be telling her think with your head not your heart or any other organ.

Sassylady

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Is it a known fact that Roddy's family is wealthy? Or is this part of his con? He mentioned to Chiari the other night that he is mad at her by six degrees of seperation...this is in reference to the movie that Will Smith was in--portraying a man who conned his way into wealthy famlies with his looks, charisma and book knowledge and pretending to be Sidney Potier's son.
Roddy clearly knows human behavior and he is using it to his benefit. Roddy' friend's described him to a 'T'ie: plane without a ticket;failing classes graduate with honors...

Sassylady

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
oops I did not mean to imply that his being mad was like the movie--he was mad because she was mad at someone who was mad at someone type thing...
My point is the character Will Smith portrayed reminds me of Roddy.

Jasons_First

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo and C1Mag~~~my best friend and I were talking about how Roddy reminds us of one of those "charming" serial killers you always read about. He's the Ted Bundy of BB. He scares me too and I just don't get his appeal to others.

Sassylady

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am so glad to see I am not alone by being freaked out by Roddy--to witness his affect/control on people is just creepy.

I wonder if he ever thought of going into polictics...lol

Cameltoes

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Did anyone catch all of Jason and Danielle's whispering? Seems he wants to tell Amy that he will vote Chiara out of Amy puts her up against Roddy but he actually would vote Roddy out? He's says he's ready to play the game and vote out the biggest threat. He think Roddy will win HOH next week.

Spunky

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 10:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, from day one I said "he's the smooth operator". I never liked him since he first tried to ally himself with Lori and then he dropped her like a heavy bag. The only reason he stuck to Chiara was that she was doing the spying for him. Now he's dropping Chiara like a heavy bag too (I can't see the feeds) but I doubt he hugs her or kiss her and could actually stir away from her when he approaches her. Is that so??
Then I thought this guy is a jinx to whomever he comes close. Well, so far anyone who got close to him is out the door and another one out on Thursday as well...
So after Chiara, it only stands to reason than it will be Amy's turn, than Marcellas, then Jason...

Jaysgal

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 10:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You know, I called it from the start that Roddy was a real <edited>. I still hold that position. Once I saw what he did to Lori, I knew that he had to be one.

However, I am no longer surprised by Roddy's behaviour. I didn't know that he was Italian. But once I learned that, I was no longer surprised. I am not implying anyone. I am just speaking generically: Italian men are absolute smooth talker; their looks don't even play in. Roddy's just playing the Italian man's style. But I do think that Roddy is stronger than most Italian men I know with this skill of smooth talking.
As stated by someone else, even Roddy's friends admitted that Roddy's always had things his way (i.e., ability to smooth talk people or entities to get what he wanted). Roddy knows that he has this skill. I think he loves the rollercoaster type of life. He enjoys being on the passenger's side and walking his way to the driver's seat, even if he could have worked to earn the driver's seat all by himself. He's applying that concept to the game too. He's enjoying walking his way to the end without winning the HOH, even when he could win the HOH.

Hey now, that's my opinion. I have not asked anyone to jump in with whether it applies to them personally or not. It is simply my general observation. I hope that I am entitled to state it.

Again, those of you criticising Amy should have your so-called friends like Danielle look into the mirror. They had the chance but didn't. What audacity have they to preach to Amy now? Besides, Amy's aim to get Chiara out first. Amy has nothing to gain doing their dirty work for them because she'll be the fifth wheel with their so-called alliance.

Also C1mag, your scenario would not work if Danielle threatened to veto Chiara because she stands a chance of having her favourite put up (i.e., Jason) or if Jason is already there, her wanna-be favourite Lisa. She can make the threat as she tried to when Marcellas was the HOH, but it isn't gonna work. She has nothing to back it up.

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Jimmer

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 10:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'n sorry but I just have to say that using Bundy's and Simpson in any sort of comparison with Roddy is just over the top. Keep it in perspective. That's almost the same as Josh calling Gerry a Nazi and we know how most people felt about that reference.

Maris

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 10:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cameltoes it was very difficult to hear. What I did hear is that Jason wants Danielle and lisa to keep their mouths shut until they are sure Roddy is on the block after the POV and then they are voting him out. They dont care what Amy wants. Dani and Jason are sure if Roddy doesnt go this week he will win the game. It is now or never for Roddy and as Jason said if someone holds it against me because I am playing the game then so be it. Looks like Dani, Jason and Lisa are going to let on they will vote chiara out but it will be Roddy.

Cameltoes

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 10:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If this is indeed their plan, I wish they would have come up with it yesterday as it may be too late to sway Amy. But, if Jason pulls this off I will be firmly rooting for him to win.

Efilon

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 10:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Does anyone really believe that Danielle will take Jason to the finals if she is the one who gets to choose? I don't believe she will as I think she will feel that she can't beat him. Although I suppose it's possible she might take him thinking he will pull a "Colby" for her. As someone earlier said, the clique had a chance to get rid of Roddy and they didn't so if he goes to the finals they have no one to blame but themselves. If they take out Rod this time, I'm sure they will then pick off Gerry, Amy, Marcellus and then Chiara. I think they will pull her into their alliance once Roddy's gone and use her to get rid of the others then dump her.

I really like the idea of an Roddy/Amy/Marcellus alliance. Hoping that they can whittle down the clique. I don't know if it will be possible though. They all like to talk about how they could win HOH any time but Lisa's win was total chance and Jason and Dani have not come very close to winning. Amy has come in second in two competitions and first in this last one. I think she and Rod have more of a chance of winning another HOH than any of the clique.

Kittykatt

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 10:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I do not believe Jason is off the hook at all I am sure Marci will tell Amy not to put up Roddy or he is gone but im sure Amy has already decided under no circumstance will she put Roddy up anyway, so my guess is jason is going up or dani :)

Jimmer

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 10:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I like the idea of a R/A/M alliance as well. Dani is clever but she's very egotistical (especially with her smiling "2 down 10 to go" comments).

She's not going to take everyone to the final two with her!