Archive through August 19, 2002
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Archive through August 19, 2002
Draheid | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 03:03 pm     Sassylady: All the articles I recall seeing indicate TWO calls per week, 10 minutes per call, MONITORED by BB staff. |
Keiffer | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 03:07 pm     I think being told one thing or another about other HG's are bad, that it hurts a HG's that is still in the house chances. The biggest point I think that is valid is that whole thing about making sure she understands how important HoH would be for her. I'm telling you if I was Roddy and was told in the diary room thatthis paticular HoH is very important to you, and you should do anything you can to win... I would think that they know what others are thinking so I better do whatever it takes. As for her mother saying something positive about Danni, I bet all teh HG's would love a chance to be told by there mothers the name of one person that "they like". So what if the calls were short? How many seconds does it take to say I really like that Danny....? |
Sassylady | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 03:20 pm     Keiffer: I am agreeing with you. I wrote in another thread that it was obvious that Amy was prepped prior to HOH--watch her closely when the eels are put in--of course at the time I wrote it someone wrote and said that was not important. I think when you put all the little things together it becomes important. With that said, we do not know their contracts. We do not know how or what the others have been told in the past. The reason Roddy and Chiara are making a fuss is because it did not work in their favor. That is Roddy's mistake that he miscalculated the importance of this HOH for him.. I agree that she has an unfair advantage if her mother told her that...does this outweigh the disadvantage of not bonding or being recented for be able to leave... I am listening to all opinions because this one I keep going back and forth on... |
Jhezzie | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 03:31 pm     I think Roddy and Chia's dissatisfaction with the game came when Eric was evicted. They were thrilled with the idea that Tonya or Eric could come back because it was to their advantage. They lost the vote and it is now painfully plain that they are not as popular or powerful as they had invisioned. The rest of the house chose Amy. Nothing about the HOH competition was slanted to favor any of the houseguests. You didn't need to do anything but sit there. Any of them could have won. Roddy could have won. Easily. Yet, he was out of that tub before the first dead squid hit the water! He can't cry about it now. The DR/BB people are playing all sides. They get to stir things up. The HGs are getting far less info than when the banners were flying and I didn't hear "Lawsuit! Lawsuit!" then. These games have NEVER been airtight. BB1 let Cassandra come back and talk about the outside. She was allowed to discuss the game and the HGs themselves chose not to hear. They wanted other news. They got letters too. BB2 knew the ratings, got lots of banners, competed to read newspapers and BB stirred the pot there too. I just think that there are alot of sour grapes over Eric getting the boot from two people who thought they were unbeatable. Waaa. |
Maris | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 03:35 pm     yes and what is just so precious is watching the two people who said, why cant they just take being nominated with grace. I am not going to be like that. I will take it like a man. YEP!!!! At this point it I dont care how the nominations work out, it was worth it watching every single person squirm for a day. |
Duchess | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 04:10 pm     I didn't have time to read all the messages in this thread but i'm rather confused as to why the supposed info given by the producers about the HOH competition is limited to Amy. The competition between the four evictees was shown live and I just don't think Amy was given a priviledged info that the other 3 evictes were not privy to. The producers had no way of knowing how the 4 evictees would answer. If Lori/Eric or Tonya were ahead of the competion, it's only logical to think that they would have been given the same info that Amy had. The questions were fair to all the evictees - common sense dictates that anyone could have won it , if one had the sense. We then see Amy and Eric pass the test and standing in FOTH. There hardly was no chance for the producers to coach either one of them to win HOH because they were shown live and the votes followed suit. For me, It's just common sense that the returning evictee will try his/her best to win HOH because of the prevailing and expected reaction of the HGs about the unfairness of this priviledge. Amy/Lori were well aware of this when they commented about having a blast during their banishment, while the rest are locked up and had to endure PB and J. |
Goddess146 | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 04:11 pm     The competition between the four evictees was NOT live. Julie said it was taped the day before. |
Battlestar | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 04:12 pm     the questions happened on Wednesday--standing infront of the house happened on Thursday |
Duchess | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 04:26 pm     Ok the questions happened the day before. I still don't see why Amy would be the only one to have such info prior to the live show. I do agree with Battlestar that Roddy should've said something when the twists were revealed. |
Sassylady | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 07:32 pm     I am not sure where to ask this...According to a LFP in a convo at 5:30 pm BB time...Lisa, Marc & Amy were talking post-noms...Amy said, "I guess it made me made when I saw that video of Tonya...She trashed me on that video." Strawberry was the ed. Thank you Strawberry for the LFP :0) I am curious: What video of Tonya is Amy talking about? |
Wcv63 | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 07:33 pm     Sassylady...the vacation eviction in paradise videos. |
Sassylady | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 07:36 pm     Oh okay Thank you WCV...I just didn't remember Tonya talking about Amy in that video. Amy said (in LF I read)Tonya was trashing her in the video she saw. WCV, you staying away from the skeeters? |
Wcv63 | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 07:40 pm     Trying to stay way from them crazy skeeters carrying that scary West Nile! Good news is that the mosquito trucks have picked up the pace on their rotation in my neighborhood. Now onto the video...Tonya said in her video that she didn't regret her fight with Amy and Marc because they "deserved it" and given the chance she'd do it again. As far as Amy was concerned they had made up and it was no longer an issue...especially since Amy really did say anything to set Tonya off anyway. Amy felt that Tonya bringing that up was a challenge to her. She was determined to at least best Tonya in the competition to return. |
Sassylady | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 07:55 pm     Thnak you ma'am. I was going to have to pull out the tapes..you saved me the trouble. Sitting here with a fly swatter...LOL OT sorry..did you see where the minister on Survivor is from Slidell? Okay enuff OT sorry :0) |
Jasonfan | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 08:06 pm     I agree that the idea of Amy receiving inside info is unfair, but I want to keep an open mind as to how she may have received the information. We don't know in what context. For example, in the conversation with her mom, Amy might have said, "I hope Danielle wins it all" and mom may have responded with, "Yes, I really like her, too." With the HOH thing, maybe she asked, "It's really important I win HOH, isn't it?" Any response but an outright NO would be construed by Amy as a yes; therefore, she can say 'they' said it's important I win. Or maybe the 'they' is L and J, while they were in the hottub. These scenarios are pure speculation, of course, but my point is that we're all speculating regarding exactly what information Amy was given. Overall, this is a game in which the competitors were told the rules would change. They signed on; it would be childish to complain. I think once R and C see that they would likely have been up this week regardless of who got HOH, C's plans to sue will go away. Of course, if they're that outraged at the horrible injustice of it all, they could leave right now, sacrifice the stipend and send a powerful moral message to all of America (or at least the east coasters, who would be the only ones who would have the abilty to understand) JMHO |
Cinder | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 12:49 pm     Lisa jsut said that Chiara is having a meeting with the producers??(John and others) today. Maybe that is why she is in the DR now with Roddy. |
Alaginger | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 01:03 pm     Sassy.... I also saw that the Minister on the new Survivor show is from Slidell. Only one listed in our phone book is on Eastwood, in Lakewood Subdivision.....but that doesn't mean anything. Don't have an idea which Church he is affliated with. Here is a link to his picture...http://groups.yahoo.com/group/survivor5john/ |
Sunrise | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 10:51 pm     amy talkin to lisa about being in mexico and everyone coming up to her referring to chiara as key-*hora. she also talked about the tv shows and how they editted them. how they showed tonya saying bad things and how they didn't show her saying bad thins. WTF? am i missing something i thought they weren't aloud to know any of this stuff. am i missing something? |
Wendo | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 11:12 pm     Sunrise, you know, I caught this too and I think it SUX bigtime that Amy has this kind of information. It really does. I have to say, I think Amy has a lot more information than we actually know. |
Ryanc2002 | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 11:19 pm     Hold on, hold on...When they're talking about Tonya saying bad things and Amy not they're referring to the ORD video. |
Jhezzie | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 11:30 pm     I think all of the BBs, 1 and 2 included got info from the outside about their show. They all knew about the ratings, they knew who was popular, not to mention the banners and they talked to the DR all the time. The DR tips them off in a round-about way on all kinds of plotting to get those wheels turning. I doubt that they told Amy anything different than they told any of the others. Who could know that Mexico wasn't far enough away? LOL. I think this whole hubbub is silly. |
Sassylady | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 09:03 am     The point is Amy said she saw the entire video of the evicted HG. Amy then went on to say that the HG only saw a snipet of the video. This is unfair. I feel BB can do what they want--it is their game and they were warned before hand that it would be twist this year. But I don't think we have heard the last of this--Amy seeing what the viewers saw and her mother telling her who to watch out for or who to trust. Because we all know "mama is always right." :-D These things gives Amy a HUGE advantage. |
Bernie | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 10:13 am     The whole point of Big Brother is that 'he' can and will do whatever he wants, and the houseguests have to dance to his tune. It's based on a book, for goodness' sake, and if BB was more faithful to the book, THEN they'd have something to yell about. They signed a contract-and sour grapes won't help them at this point. One of the things that got previous HGs into trouble was excessive niggling about BB, and I'm actually surprised at how much latitude these HG's have been given this year. I still recall how Jamie got lambasted over her silly little code. Yet look at Chiara's code this year-the only reason that fell by the wayside is because WE understood it. Did she get heck for using it? Don't think so. The isolation of the HGs has never been complete, on any of the series, and crying about 'fairness' at this stage of the game is a waste of time. I keep wanting to yell at them - Suck it up and get over it! Especially as we know, and so does everyone involved in the show, that if Tonya or Eric had returned, there'd have been joyous celebration. The hypocrisy of it all makes me heave. |
Nutsy | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 10:15 am     **hands Bernie a small paper bag** |
Jimmer | Monday, August 19, 2002 - 10:17 am     It's hard to play a "game" where the rules change all the time. Having said that, they knew that coming into it so they can't complain. Probably the big mistake is thinking of it as a game with rules. The only rules are the ones made up by BB as it goes. |
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