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Guiltyviewer

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Can't believe how aggressively (but cleverly) Roddy is asking Dani what she'd do in certain scenarios he's proposing: If you got along with everybody in the house but one, and you got HOH, who would you put up with them? She's not really answering him but he's not letting her get away with that, re-explaining and using analogies to make his point.

Look out Dani! He's on to you and if he stays (likely) and get HOH next week, he can turn your own words against you when he noms you!!

Floresmama

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He will go straight to who ever she actually says for his hypothetical question and tell them that she is planning to nominate them. He is really transparent if you look at him.

Bbrules4ever

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
its the WHITE KING vs. the BLACK QUEEN


its the 2 goliaths of this game feeling each others power........danni dont fall into roddys trap of doublespeak!

Pulk

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I said this in another thread but this is straight out of the movie Heat where Pacino tries to grill De Niro.

Tortie2k

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, I'm sure this has been already asked dozens of times, but I'll have another go at it...

Why must a HG feel obligated to answer *any* questions from other HGs, especially when they're patently designed for you to 1) reveal your alliances/strategies or 2) be used against you later. Yes, it would be very annoying to others if you remained constantly vague, but can't you just smile, shrug, and change the subject?

No wonder they get trapped in their lies or simply don't know when to stop talking. Why do they have to explain and self-incriminate?

Moedog

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Using the chess analogy, the Queen is the most powerful piece. I hope she's smarter than to fall for Roddy's trap, but after all that happened yesterday and after midnight, I'm not so sure about her.

Eden

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Exactly, Tortie!!! Just say.. "Gee, I'm not sure what I would do in that situation, Roddy." and leave the room!

Kalekona

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Listening to this it makes me REALLY want to see the two of them team up! Wouldn't it be interesting to see the two of them up against each other in the end? Who would get the votes? They both are just as manipulitive. Would Roddy win because of his personality? Or Danielle because of her"WORD"?

Cameltoes

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope she is hip to his game. He knows she doesn't -really- want HOH if she can get someone else to do what she needs done. Thus, if he can give her even more fuel to not win, he has a better chance to win HOH and avoid a nomination.

Spunky

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It's the Lord of the Flies and the swat...who's going to eat the morsel???

Sanfranjoshfan

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He was just trying to get her to admit that there are times when a "decoy nomination" would be advantageous....it was simply a semantics discussion because going by the parameters of Roddy's question, the only answer is "yes, in that case a decoy would be necessary."

She just didn't want to say anything that might point out any strategy she has....since most of her strategy these days is directed at getting rid of Roddy.

Ryanc2002

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
His scenario is so dumb. He says that if you like everyone except one person, and the person you do not like says "You're going down." Would you not get HOH and risk being nominated or do you try your damndest to get HOH. And, if you get HOH who, other than the person you hate do you put up? You have to use a decoy.

Because of this scenario Roddy says that you have to use a decoy in the real game.

It's dumb, because in the real game you won't get along with everyone perfectly!

Bbrules4ever

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
danny looks stupid? yes she does...."looks" being the key word.......#1 rule in manipulation is you have to play a dummy to catch one.....Roddy is the one doing all the talking....danny is "keeping her mouth shut, and her eyes wide open"""


go dani!

Floresmama

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy is so twisting everything. He just said the decoy worked everytime. Where has he been. It didn't work for Lori or Tonya. That is just an example of how Roddy manipulates the truth. He says incorrect stuff with such athority your first inclination is to believe him.

Wendo

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm hoping Roddy kills himself here and that Ja, Li, and Danni decide to boot him.

He keeps throwing up hypothetical situations. But, he's talking about Jason breaking his word and, if he had to choose between Ja and Dan (all things being equal), he would put Jason on the block.

Now, we'll see where Danielle is thinking. Will she go to Jason and say, "Jason, we gotta get him out. Danger, danger!" Or, will she keep quiet and risk Roddy staying and not putting her on the block too. With Marc true feelings now known about Dani, I think Dani's best interest is still to knock out Roddy this week. Make sure she gets Chi on her side and she still has Ja and Li as supporters.

I think Roddy has made a tactical error going off on Ja like this to Dani. Of course, he doesn't know about the Jason/Dani alliance, so he is at a disadvantage.

Will this be enough for her to break her promise to Amy? Or, will she decide, hmm, I could use Roddy?

When these two are together, it is so fascinating. They truly are playing against each other. The other HG's are just added furniture.

Cameltoes

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope so Wendo. Knowing that Roddy doesn't trust Jason and knowing that Marcellas has given Roddy critical info, she MUST evict Roddy now. No ifs, ands or buts about it.

Kalekona

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
are they trying to get information from each other or feeling each other out about working together.

Cameltoes

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy is screwing himself right now by trying to "rat out" Jason. Danielle would be nuts not to evict him after this conversation.

Kalekona

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
but i think he is waiting to see if she runs to Jason with this information thus confirming there is an allience between them.

Guiltyviewer

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hoping so,cameltoes

Saggkl

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If she wants even a fighting chance of winning she has to vote out Roddy. He is such a manipulater. He's working her like a pro.

Eden

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy didn't even know they HAD an alliance unti days ago, so I think they can talk without him knowing. They've been doing it since week one!

Kalekona

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
trying to work her but giving up some insite on himself to her as well. getting interesting that's for sure.

Stingerman

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Man Roddy has her number and he can see she is lying so easily. Danni just isn't very good at this.

Lumbele

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 01:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OOOOOOOOh, now this is the chess match I have been waiting for. Congrats to whoever check-mates the other, and hat's off to the 'sleeper' that ends up passing both of them on his/her way to the 1/2 mil.