Archive through August 14, 2002
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Archive through August 14, 2002
Chancesdesign | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:06 am     Last night during a long (fairly boring) conversation, Lisa mentioned she had favorite letters (S & F "because they are fun to write".) Roddy of course had to add something to this. Roddy then talked about the taste tests that Pepsi had performed against Coke - The Pepsi Challenge in the early 80's. He said that Pepsi had always called their product "M" and that they had always called Coke "Q". As eveyone knows, Pepsi won these taste tests. Roddy's point was that it was because people liked the letter "M" better then "Q" because it was more familiar and was in a lot of people's names etc. He then said that Coke had done tests where they called their product "M" and called Pepsi "Q" and that in those tests Coke had won. I had heard about the tests of course but had never heard these details. I did a little research and found the following article. http://www.toptown.com/hp/MIKEYB/coke.htm It tells a slightly different story. It says Coke put out the story about Pepsi using "M" and "Q" and blaming that, but that strategy didn't work. It also says that Coke did their own taste tests that they did win, but that was with the product's clearly identified. It seems like I have heard several Roddy "facts" that I question. It wouldn't bother me so much except he has such a superior attitude. I started to get curious about other Roddy lectures that didn't hold water. Can anyone share any they have heard? |
Wcv63 | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:11 am     Chances I don't retain any of Roddy's lectures as they clutter up my brain and don't leave me enough room for real knowledge. I put out the "trash" every night before I go to bed. However, this is an interesting thread and I'm looking forward to reading more about Roddy being wrong! |
Azlen | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:12 am     Roddy is just a good looking version of Cliff Clavin. |
Off2cthwizrd | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:13 am     Sorry, I can't quote a particular lecture, but it drives me crazy when he gets into a conversation and he continually says "I don't understand". Then the person/people talking to him spend all this time trying to explain it to him. He knows FULL well what they are saying, I think he just tries to see how deep they can dig themselves in their efforts to "help him" understand. This was at it's worst when Marcellus went in and talked to him after the big fight with Josh. Sorry if this doesn't fit the topic, but I had no idea where else to put it. Wait...I'll make it on topic - I question the "fact" that he says he doesn't understand! |
Costacat | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:14 am     I'm with Wcv on this. So much of what Roddy says is just hot air, and vanishes just as quickly (in my mind). I wish I could remember, but I do recall he pronounced a word wrong recently. It was one of those multisyllabic words and he totally said it wrong! (And of course, I LOL when I heard it!) |
Wcv63 | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:14 am     Azlen, and even that is subject to interpretation! |
Realfan | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:16 am     Didn't someone post that he said General Patton raced in the Olympics against Jesse Owens? In actual real fact (LOL!!) it was a completely different Patton, not the general. |
Costacat | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:17 am     Azlen, "good looking" is in the eye of the beholder. I, personally, don't think he's good looking at all. In fact, if I passed him on the street, I probably wouldn't look twice (let alone once). In the beginning, I had a bit of a hard time distinguishing Eric and Roddy (as well as Chiara and Lisa). The C/L problem was easily resolved, cause Lisa has a great smile and dimples. I resolved the E/R problem by realizing that I thought Roddy looked like a penguin -- I thought his mouth looked like a beak. And I still do, especially when he purses it right before he starts to pontificate on some ponderously boring subject. |
Eddie4ever | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:19 am     Maybe he confused "The Pepsi Challenge" with "Dr.No".... aren't M and Q both in that one? |
Jimmer | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:20 am     Wow ... insulting Roddy has really become a national sport for a lot of people here. Hope you're having fun! |
Wcv63 | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:31 am     Jimmer, it's more international since Canadians are also involved. We're all entitled to our opinions about who we like, who we dislike, and who we choose to support in the game. Roddy gets on my very last nerve. Some people really like him. As long as we remain respectful of each others opinions I don't think we're crossing any lines of conduct. Of course, you may have a different opinion on that subject!  |
Chancesdesign | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:31 am     In a conversation fairly early on, they were talking about how similar human DNA is to monkey DNA and Roddy piped in that human DNA was acually much more similar to some other animal. I can't remember what it was but I do remember thinking it didn't sound plausible. Does anyone remember that? Do you remember what the animal was? Maybe I will try to find out a little more about that. |
Minnyace01 | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:43 am     Jimmer - I'm glad that you posted what I was thinking. If they ever do vote out Roddy and Chiara, this board could dry up. The folks here would have no one to go on a rant about. |
Oregonfire | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:44 am     I think it's a pig, but didn't hear the convo, Chance. I am Roddyish in my random half truths at times as well. |
Wcv63 | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:46 am     Oregon I believe that it's a pig as well but didn't post as I wasn't sure of my info. |
Marysafan | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:48 am     One afternoon he was looking at one of the maps and telling someone that a penninsula in Africa was once a free standing island that had attached itself to the mainland. I thought the continental drift theory was that the land mass was once together, but due to the earths rotation...it was actually separating. I am not saying that he isn't right...because I don't have sufficient knowledge of that particular area (and will admit it)...but it just didn't mesh with the prevailing thought...or what I learned in high school geography class. |
Jimmer | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:49 am     I guess you picked up on my minor attempt at sarcasm. Anyway, it’s good to know that it’s an international sport (I’m Canadian too)! I have to confess (and I feel like it really is a confession given the lack of support that Roddy receives here) that I do like Roddy more than some of the other houseguests. Having said that, I wouldn’t be here if I didn’t enjoy reading all the comments – this really is what makes the show as entertaining as it is. |
Carigsby | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:50 am     I dont't think that Roddy is purposely giving false information in their discussions. It sounds to me like a classic case of knowing a little bit about a lot of things instead of knowing a lot about a few things. I myself have been caught repeating misinformation because I read an article that didn't give all of the facts. All of us are doomed to only know a percentage of whole stories if we only check one or two news sources. Speaking specifically about the Coke thing - I work in marketing and this is discussed ad naseum There is something to the way that people perceive letters (or numbers for that matter). And, there are lots of different tricks you can use to make people give you the answer you are looking for (especially if that answer is being filmed for possible use in commercials and it is crucial that you hear what you want). If you read the whole article, you will see that Coke had a pretty big problem with it's focus groups and market research. Regardless - in the world of marketing there are 100's of articles about the Coke/Pepsi thing. The problem is that most of them are leaning to one side or the other. Every author seems to have an idea on who they think actually won the taste wars and why. So - I am sure that Roddy has read something (if not a few things) about the M and Q theory. As a writer, Roddy has to do a lot of research which means that he takes in a lot of information. That information will only go so far because you can't be an expert on everything as we are seeing with him. I personally haven't heard a lot of incorrect things from Roddy - but I have heard a lot of half-way-there theories making it obvious that he just doesn't have all of the research. As far as the DNA thing goes - I think that human DNA is closer to chimps than monkeys and it seems like I've heard or read recently that there was another animal that was close. I don't remember exactly, though. |
Costacat | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:50 am     Who's ranting? I disagreed with the comment that Roddy is good looking. I, personally, don't think he is. I've never liked Roddy, not from day 1. Those are my opinions to which I am entitled. I did not rant. |
Oregonfire | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:55 am     That's the super continent Pangea theory, Marysfan (your idea, not Roddy's). The idea is that all of the continents were one land mass and broke up over a VERY long time period. If you look at the coast of S. America, it fits like a puzzle piece to the West Coast of Africa. Maybe Roddy was talking specifically about that one peninsula, so not sure about that. Sounds like a theory, not fact. BTW, peninsula has the same root word as penis. How's that for a Roddyism? |
Moedog | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 11:11 am     LOL, Oregonfire! Great Roddyism. I wonder... does a penis technically qualify as a penisula if a man is immersed in a pool of water? <grin> |
Oregonfire | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 11:13 am     That depends--does it involve shrinkage?  |
Wcv63 | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 11:14 am     WARNING WARNING WARNING MINI-RANT ALERT!! Carigsby, I agree that Roddy is probably not purposely giving out false information. I also agree that it's possible to know a lot about a subject and still not have the whole story. If Roddy just confined himself to dropping his little bits of information I would have no problem with him. BUT, when he does spout out about the things he knows he does it in such a condescending way. Not like he's starting a conversation or sharing some info, but more like he's lecturing or instructing. In addition, I have heard him on more than one occassion, exlaim, "Wow I'm really impressed that you know that" to someone when they have knowledge about a subject that he doesn't (or sometimes even he does knowledge). It is said in such a patronizing way that the compliment is backhanded to say the least. Okay...there ya go. Minnyace's prediction of a rant fulfilled. |
Hillbilly | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 11:14 am     "Last night during a long (fairly boring) conversation, Lisa mentioned she had favorite letters (S & F "because they are fun to write".)" Now hold on here...is this BB or Sesame Street? |
Chancesdesign | Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 11:17 am     I found this: "Humans share 98.7 percent of our DNA with chimpanzees, our closest living relatives. Humans and chimps branched off from a common ape-like ancestor 5 million years ago, while humans and mice diverged between 90 million and 100 million years ago." Here is the whole article: http://www.msnbc.com/news/759540.asp?cp1=1 It doesn't mention pigs. |
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