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Keiffer

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 08:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo... when in the world did you ever hear Lisa ask Chiara for her vote? When did you ever hear Chiara promise Lisa her vote? They were a group of four two of which were up for eviction. I never that whole week Lisa was up heard one person promise her their vote.


edited: They all assumed that Chiara was voting in favor of Lisa.... just like it might be assumed that Lisa would vote for Eric

Wcv63

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 08:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The girls' alliance promised her their votes. And as far as I can tell Chiara is a girl. But then the house is all about honesty and truth according to Chiara and the only one who wasn't with the program was Josh.

Hotty_Toddy

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 08:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kaylee, it's past your bedtime. Tomorrow is a school day.

Let's try and remember that from the very beginning Eric said his first goal in the house was to get the money and he would vote Lisa out to get it. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Llkoolaid

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 08:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
How could Lisa do anything differant than align with Danielle. Her friends dumped her. Roddy campaigned against her, Chiara voted against her and Chiara didn't use the veto to get either her or Eric of the hotseat. They had the revolving door policy so she knew that if Eric came back in unless Roddy or herself got hoh he would be gone and she would have lost the support of Danielle.
I think Danielle is her best shot of getting anywhere and she is still able to use Roddy and Chiara. I think she is playing a good game finally. If Eric had of come back in she would have put a big target right on her back.

Llkoolaid

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 08:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh and Kaylee, I would thank my lucky stars to be as skinny and ugly as Lisa.

Wcv63

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 09:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Llkoolaid: I second that emotion!!!

Crossfire

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 09:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This is going to be a cool fun fireworks show once C and R figure out that Jason and Lisa went against the Eric pick. That is sure to shake them up a bit.

Lisa did good for herself tonight though. That was the first concrete action I've seen to back up her new attitude, great stuff.

Rain

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 09:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa's vote should come as no surprise. She has said ever since the "expect the unexpected" was explained that she did NOT want Eric to return to the house. She likes the "new her" and she knows that Eric returning would ruin her new strategy. Lisa is finally playing the game.

And what should Eric care? The first thing he did when he got out was diss her, saying she's the one "for now".

Snee

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 09:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
crossfire, they didn't announce how many votes for eric and amy, did they? they do that for evictions, but i can't remember for this. (yeah, i know it's been less than an hour...*smacks forehead*)

Jasonfan

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 09:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was blown away when Lisa made the choice she did, and so were the behind the scenes folks on BB. Did you hear all of the noise? I love her choice. She knows C and R need to be gone, and E would have blocked that, not to mention distracted L.

I disagree with some posters though, who see L as D's pawn, voting as D told her to. The HGs had no idea they would be allowed to choose the HG to re-enter. L decided for herself that E's return would be a disadvantage to HER, not necessarily to anyone else.

What a terrific night for BB3 fans!

Rain

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 09:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jasonfan--yes, not only is Lisa not Danielle's pawn, but she is playing the same game as everyone now.

I believe she even left the "tub" tonight out of the knowledge she did NOT want to be HOH because she would have been forced to show her hand. If she nominated Roddy and Chiara her masque would have been exposed.

I am liking Lisa more and more since Eric left.

Jasonfan

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 09:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
L's a brand new person! What a smart move for everyone but G and R to leave the tub. R, C and G are really the only HGs at risk to be nominated (right???). The alliance can let Amy do the work of nominating R and C, and if ORD kicks in next week, she'll be gone (not that I want that). J, L, D and M just bought themselves at least two more weeks. Great strategy.

Sheila494

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 10:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
poor lisa..i felt so bad for her having to make that choice..i know it wasnt easy..but i understand why she had to do it.

Fuzzybear

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 10:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kaylee are you eric's ex? the one he had before he came in the house?
Just a thought

Sia

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 10:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I completely understand and support Lisa's decision to vote for Amy to return to the house rather than Eric. We have to remember that Lisa has met Eric--has lived with him closely--IN REAL LIFE, while we have only been able to observe him from afar. Lisa has a gut feeling about Eric and how far to trust him.

Whether she's "played" Eric from the very beginning of their relationship or she really has deep emotional feelings for him, I cannot tell and don't care: Lisa was wise to vote to keep Eric out of the house, out of her bed, out of her WAY in her pursuit of the MONEY, which is, after all, the reason those people are pretending to like one another to begin with, you understand!

Sheila494

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 10:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
scarlett..kaylee sure busted you.

Wcv63

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 10:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sheila, I saw no busting. Scarlett handled herself well.

Snee

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 11:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
scarlett busted? don't think so.

anyway, i think that decision was hard for lisa but she chose to continue playing the game. eric himself said that he would have no trouble getting her out: 'if she goes, she goes'. all that was with the understanding/hope that they have of continuing a relationship. eric wanted to win. lisa wants to win. and, lisa's best bet was to vote amy back into the house. i think eric is going to understand that. i suspect that they even discussed this kind of scenario under the covers!

Moedog

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 11:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My husband thinks Lisa is a real beauty physically, and I agree with him.

Eric better not hold it against her that she voted to get Amy back in the house instead of him. It IS all about getting to the 1/2 million $$$ and she's there to win it if she can just as he was. Amy's return is her best shot.

When Lisa sees the comment Eric made that if she goes, she goes, he'll get laid anyway, she might just give him the heave-ho. Maybe they'll get past BB3 and build a stable relationship; I hope so (I'm a sucker for a happy ending). It was a difficult choice for Lisa, and I think she made the right one.

Serena

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 11:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa's 'heartbreaking' choice?

I remain to be convinced how 'heartbreaking' it actually was for her. She's seeing the endgame and would still rather she than Eric win. She's liking her new allies and doesn't miss Eric that much while she's still in the game.

It's naive to think she was torn up over the decision, tears or no tears.

Guiltyviewer

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 12:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sure she's sad temporarily, but she was smart enough to think ahead. She is accustomed to making her own choices she said in her previous romantic relationships, in fact had a role reversal of sorts usually---she paid the bills and the guy would take care of whatever domestic stuff he felt needed to be done.

She did the right thing for playing the game. IF she and Eric are going to be a couple, she's doing it for 'them', but if he's history for whatever reason and at whatever time period, then she's got it for herself.

Good thinking Lisa, and keep up that Academy Award acting you're doing...Chiara's buying it and Roddy thinks you're flirting with him!

Oregonfire

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 12:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa has been hard to read this evening in the hot tub. But she went back to her room and looked all sad.

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Becca

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 12:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Her and Eric discussed things. They agreed that while they cared about each other, they were both out for themselves in the game.

There's more to consider in the situation. I think Lisa knew that whoever came in would be voted out fairly soon. Eric wasn't going to win, and having him in hurt her as well.

If I were Eric, I'd completely understand. She did look really heartbroken. I'm sure in the diary room, Lisa will explain all.

Spear

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 12:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't understand how Lisa's "betrayal" of Eric can be considered to be just as bad as Chiara's voting to evict Lisa. Look at how they went about it: Lisa explains that it would be better for her game. Chiara goes into stuff about Lisa not being the kind of person who would be her friend, about Lisa having a whiny voice, etc. Is it really that surprising that some (most?) people would look at what Lisa did in a much better light than what Chiara did?

Wendo

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 01:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, Keiffer, I s'pose that whole girl always have girl's back was just fantasy...oh, guess not since others have cited the example as well. You can choose to believe it or not, no difference to me. But others heard this as well.