Roddy is grilling Dani now about hypothetical strategies!!
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Dee723

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 02:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL. Yeah but she conveniently forgets that she's no angel either. Didn't she lie to Chiara last night about Marc? She's already planned to get rid of Marcellus, she's just mad that she got caught at her own game. I hope Marc wins HOH next week. She's really an idiot to keep Roddy around. She has a much better chance of staying if she keeps Chiara

Car54

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 02:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There are still two days. The veto is over...he may p*ss her off so much she will vote his sorry behind out yet.

Do it!

Gramma

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 02:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Refreshing my widdle fingers to the bone in the live feeds area in hopes for an update on what's going on since that grilling Roddy gave Danni.

I wish she'd turned the tables on Roddy and asked him all the same questions he asked her. Let me rephrase that..wish she's DEMANDED he tell her his strategy the way he was demanding her to.

Now that Danni knows what a two-faced weasle Marci is, I don't see why she should feel at all honor bound to vote the way the 2 HOH prima-donna want her too. I hope she manages to get Lisa to see the new urgency to get Roddy out NOW!

Maris

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 02:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani does not believe Roddy but she will use the information as an excuse why she breaks her word with Jason. She will act like she believes it and talk about how Roddy was convincing. She is now angry at Marcellas the guy she wanted to go to the end with (yep), and will go after him with everything she has. Why is she mad? because he is playing the game the same way she is.

I laugh at these people who are so outraged when they get out manoeuvered and start talking about
someone has no ethics and no morals. She lectures Amy and Lisa about not being emotional and only act for strategy and today is she talking about being vindictive and putting Marcellas up.

Dee723

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 02:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani is every bit the two-faced weasle that Marci is and remember she turned on him FIRST. She is far from a saint. She made a mistake by telling him everything she did. Marci didn't do any of this until she made him angry last night and he went on a rampage with Amy.

Cameltoes

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 02:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually, Marc spilled to Roddy before last night. He has been gunning for Danielle so if she takes him out first, it would be self preservation. She needs to get Roddy out and hope she, Lisa or Jason gets HOH and puts up Gerry/Marcellas with eyes to boot Marcellas.

Keiffer

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 03:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Are we 100% sure of what Jason said and didn't say to Eric or Roddy about his vote the week of Lisa and Eric? I mean Roddy must have been pretty convinced to risk the Chiara vote, and exposing her to what she is in now on no information. It just doesnt seem like Roddy to make voting arrangements on partial information. I believe that even if the words "I give my word" didn't come from his mouth that Jason for sure made it clear to the guys that he was voting to evict Lisa. Given that I am not sure that Roddy lied to Danny.

C1mag

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 03:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm gonna throw my two cents in on this one cause this is CLASSIC Roddy crap. Does anyone get whats happening here? Roddy is trying to make them pick each other off while he sits back.... Why would he tell this to Dani? Obviously it makes Marc look bad, yet it's the truth. Now does she take the bait and let Roddy through for another week and forget he is there and set her sights on booting Marc? Then what was she suppose to do after that? Give Roddy another free week and go after the liar Jason? And while she is hating those two I'm sure he would be working Lisa,Marcellus and Amy about how wicked Jason and Dani are. Everyone is forgetting that Roddy said in his bio that he would gather info and then reveal it about the others and call them on it at the right time. This is his new game. He can't control the vote but if he diverts the attention away from himself and gets them to peck one another off one by one then he gets through. We've got 24hr's left before the vote. Dani needs to think this one out. Since she knows Marc is dogging for her to be gone she needs to strip his new found power. GET RODDY OUT NOW!! Then go after Marcellus!! It's that simple. Jason will want to do this if they think about it. If Roddy stays in you are giving Marcellus an avenue to destroy your plans. It's the only thing to do. Will she do it or be an idiot and play right into this so that come next week Roddy is still in the game and she will gun for anyone but Roddy. Hmmmm.....

C1mag

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 03:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiff if Jason lied then Jason would not have said last night that when he knows for sure Roddy is going he is going to confront him in front of everyone about calling him a liar. That to me says that Jason feels he did not lie. Roddy has twisted what Jason has said to make it appear as if he lied. Thats Roddy. His own take on things from his own "special" mind called, Roddyville.

Keiffer

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 03:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag that strategy is exactly almost word for word DAnny's planning has been when she started the getting the couple out stuff. Clearly trying to make the couples want to go after whatever HoH it is that actually puts them up. Then she sits back in the middle between the couples and the people who actually do the dirty work for her and make both sides think she is for them.

You know with both of them being good at this game is AMAZING to think what kind of damage they could have done if they had both been on the same side from the start.

Keiffer

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 03:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag, Jason can say and talk about confronting Roddy, but I have yet to see him do anything like that. He can say he is going to confront him like that in a way to show how he didn't say something, but when the time comes he doesnt do it. Add to that that he knows it isnt going to be 100% certain that Roddy is leaving so he wont have to confront him. Add to that if he was truly upset about it and really wanted Roddy out he would confront him like Roddy did to Josh last week.

Stargazer

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 03:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason's Lie?
When Roddy asked him if he was voting Lisa out, Jason said "I'm sticking with the plan".
He just didn't mention to Roddy that it was Danielle's plan he was sticking to. Fine line but not a lie.

C1mag

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 03:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiff actually Dani has never taken one person from a couple and pitted them against the other one. She targets the "Couple" as a whole and then see's where the trend is going as to which one she would prefer out. Sure she is protecting herself, but she does not play the couples against one another. She sees a trend as to who the others want out and then appears to be appart of the majority. She allows someone else to nominate them. Again I don't see how that is close to Roddys plan at all. His is too humiliate the others. Cause friction, and then make himself look golden and the shaddow of the game while the rest eat each other appart based on outright lies or half truths. You either let him do that or you get him out and move on. It's a slicker Josh move is all it is.

Wendo

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 04:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm with C1mag on this one. Roddy accomplished what he set out to do today, and that was to divert Dani's focus on him on to Marcellas. What I AM surpirsed at is her falling for it. Dani, up till now, has been immune to Roddy and his manipulations. But, he went dug, found her weakness, and has exploited it. She is now acting emotionally, one thing she said she would never do.

However, if it were me, I would still boot Roddy. He's been the instigator, the trouble maker, the pot stirrer. Keeping him in there does not help her at all.

By booting Roddy, she gains Chiara because she's been saved. Then, target Mar and Gerry under the guise of "helping Mar get out his foe". Then, with a tie breaker, boot Marcellas. I'm sure he'll just looooove that. (hee, hee)

Interestingly though, Gerry keeps coasting through. I think he's going to make it to the end.

Gouraphik

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 04:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That's interesting...Roddy instigating an internecine war? A Danielle vs. Marcellas war would take the heat off of Gerry next week, if he plays his cards right. Roddy may not survive this week, but he'll sabotage the efforts of Danielle to win it if he can.

Revenge, or something like it...don't you just love it? :)

Keiffer

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 04:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo... you and C1mag on the same page? You with C1 on this one? I can't beleive it!

Tracy

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 04:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm hoping to see Dani walking around the yard all alone saying "Think Danielle Think." Time is running out.

Wendo

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 04:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, Dani's got a day and a half to work this through and realize what happened to her today. If she can't see that she was manipulated by Roddy, then she is toast. Simple as that.

I posted in another thread, but it bears repeating here, she needs to talk with Jason. Hopefully the two of them will figure it out and realize that the REAL threat is Roddy.

Eden

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 04:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just when you think they have finally figured this guy out, they haven't!

Shadowkat

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 04:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani and Lisa were outside talking just a few minutes ago. Dani asked Lisa who she was going to vote for, and Lisa said she changes her mind every hour. The conversation was interrupted, but it looked like they wanted to talk again about voting so hopefully Lisa will put Dani back on course.

Sam222

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 05:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo, I have also been thinking that Jason could be the key, I think it is now time for him to finally step up to the plate and take some control. He is a reality TV fan and has to see how stupid it would be to keep Roddy in. Sending brain waves to Jason! I also wish we could have a little DR interference!(you know how they never instigate!)

C1mag

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 05:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason is the key to reason. He doesn't jump blindly. He is sick and tired of hearing that Roddy is telling people that he is a liar. That always seems to ignite his flame. He always says that the guy has too go after she tells him that. With this new Marcellus paranoia looming in the air I think he will say lets do it and end this crap cause if we don't Roddy is gonna play us all. I still don't understand how she could be this stupid to even think about it. It's obvious Lisa is just waiting for the go ahead. If Dani would say... Lets do it! Lisa would say I'm in! She just doesn't want to be the ring leader and demand it. Roddy did find Danis weakness and it is simple.... Tell her that one person is gunning for her and she freaks out. She freaked when Tonya said she was her biggest threat. She freaked when she heard Roddy was gonna put her up. She freaked when Amy talked about putting her up. This is her weakness and she loses complete sight of things. Did I not say that Roddy would make his move righ after POV meeting? The man is slick, but Jason has watched these games and knows all about Roddy he has to be the voice of reason. I will say it again..... Right now Dani holds her own fate. She either gets Roddy out this Thursday or she will be walking out herself next Thursday. It's that simple.

Niceguy

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 05:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy is the Demolition Man. Its pretty clear to me.

Maris

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 06:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1, question for you. Yesterday morning I saw Jason talking to Dani about strategy and the whole voting Roddy out. He was giving instructions to Dani about speaking to Lisa. When I saw that conversation I thought WOW.

Is Jason running the show with Dani? Is Jason the Brains in this whole alliance? even in the wee hours this morning in the HOH room with Dani, he freaked out when Amy caught them together. Jason said he had made a huge effort never to be seen with Dani and Lisa.

Does anyone besides me think that Jason is the sleeper? Jason is running the show and will walk away with all the money.

Floresmama

Monday, August 19, 2002 - 06:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason might walk away with the money but I think they have a relatively equal partnership eventhough I heard Jason say once that he voted they way Danielle said.

Jayalltheway

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 08:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
In terms of plotting, Jason's biggest strength is that he doesn't spend hours plotting and strategising with other houseguests. He hold his own council, talks BRIEFLY with his alliance members when it's needed and does what he promises to do. It makes him seem a lot less sneaky than anyone else as he never plays mind games or asks how others are going to vote, yet it allows him to form strong bonds with others over everyday conversations.

Guiltyviewer

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 08:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Couldn't agree with you more Jayalltheway (love the ID too!)

Gina8642

Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 09:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Nice call Jayalltheway. That is too true.

Marc has probably turned on Dani because he got sooo sick of her going on, and on.

Jay is nearly silent on strategy, even with Dani.

Lisa is fairly quiet herself, except with Dani, maybe that is why so many like her so much??