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Lilacs04

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 08:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She lets Chiara have her way but then screws Amy over in her first week back? Plus, if I have to listen to a Roddyless Chiara, I might as well not even watch the show...

I'm of the opinion that *now* is the time to get Chiara out because everyone knows what Roddy really is.

Endrun

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it would be a better move for Dani to go along with Amy and vote Chiara out this week. I think that it keeps her and her group more under the radar this way and it does not make anyone mad except for Chiara. She needs to focus on the future jury members. In past survivors and big brothers, the ultimate winner was the one who played the best game. Roddy can be removed within the next two weeks even if he gets HOH next week.
PS I just joined the board and this is my first post. I found this board this year. You all are great and make the show that much more fun.

Jimmer

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The only way you can support Danielle is if you approve of outright lieing in a game situation like this. It's similar to what Vee did on Survivor 4.

Maris

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I want to know how Dani is going to explain to Amy and Marcellas how she deceived them and lied to them. I am waiting.............

Seamonkey

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Let's wait and see what she actually does, eh??

Crazydog

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Seamonkey, why can't we speculate? 90% of the discussion here in between nominations and eviction is about speculation.

Sportsmom1714

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm trying to get caught up with all the goings on this evening and I was wondering what Dani did that she would have to explain to Amy and Marcellas. Could anyone fill me in? Thanks!

Goddess146

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani has told Chiara (before she was nominated) that she had Chiara's back. She has given Chiara her word. She will not take it back because...

Dani wants Roddy out!

Jenhavins

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa, Danielle, and Jason at this point plan on voting Roddy out (their biggest competition), however, Dan promised to vote Chiara out. It all may change though.

Ladytex

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, if Dani is playing the game to win, she has to get rid of Roddy this week, cuz he's out for her!

Lilacs04

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Seamonkey -- Trust me, she "has Chiara's back". Short of Chiara breaking out a knife and going all Justin Sebik on the rest of the HGs, there's no way she will be evicted. MAYBE Amy could cry to Jason and sway his vote but that would require Amy figuring out how evil Dani is. If Roddy's smart, he'll run to Marcellas and Amy and tell them Dani is planning on evicting him.

Crazydog

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Mom, Amy intended to put up Chiara and Jason for nomination. She wants Chiara out badly. Just before she went to do the nominations she ran to Danielle and Danielle was saying something like "I would never let that happen." Amy nominates Chiara and Roddy. I take it that Amy had a conversation with Danielle where Amy got "word" from Danielle that Roddy will not be evicted. I base this on the fact that Danielle and Lisa were seen talking that they were going to let everyone think they were going along with Amy's wishes to evict Chiara, but on Wednesday they will actually vote for Roddy. Roddy is out. Amy is flabbergasted. Amy and Marc will feel Dani betrayed them. And rightly so. Danielle will not get either of their votes if she is in the finals.

Lilacs04

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Addendum to my post: How charitable of Jason, Lisa and Dani to vote Amy back into the house so she can be locked up with a <> Chiara.

Wow, this betrayal really burns me!
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C1mag

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm still confused as to how she has become "evil" because She needed to get Roddy on the block. Yesterday he was in that hoh working Amy to avoid nomination. He tried everything. I heard several lies come out of his mouth and a lot of mind games. He had her at that point. Dani counter attacked with the only card left in the deck. She was forced to lie. The lie was that Chiara would go if it was Roddy and Chiara on the block. Wow how evil!!! They've all lied. Marcellus would be a pure hypocrite if he wouldn't admit that he has called Roddy the anti christ and that he thinks he needs to go. Amy was all set for a Roddy nomination before he started playing her. I think that what Dani did was play Roddy better. If lying is what it took to get him out then cool she did brilliant. What he does is cruel. Throws all the negative aspects about a person up and makes himself look golden. Look at what he did to Lisa. No one has called him on that issue at all. I tend to believe the real evil one is Roddy and he got bit by a slick player. At least for now.

Bailey

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And Dani was able to convince Amy to put up Roddy because she was insisting he was going to use the pov on Chiara if he wasn't nom'd along with her. So Dani convinced Amy this was the only way to insure Chiara will be gone. Slick.. eh?

Jumpcuts

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy's turning/charming/bewitching of Marcellas last night has made it necessary for Dani and her group to oust Roddy now. It was that long discussion that sealed it. I don't think Dani is being a louse; the numbers changed.

Wcv63

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Funny...I don't look at it as a betrayal. It's all strategy and has nothing to do with Amy personally. They've been in the house and know who needs to go. They know who the threat is. If they have to lie to get to the end goal that is just part of the game.

Plus, they weren't with the whole ORD plan and have other targets they need out in order to advance strategically.

It's a game. It's a game. It's a game.

Granted, if my favs were on the chopping block I'd probably be in here screaming the loudest. It's all a matter of perception.

Csnog

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Roddy gets HOH on Thursday watch for him to put up Dani and she knows it.

Jimmer

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As a general comment, it largely depends on who you like and who you are cheering for. If your favourite tells a lie, then it's good game playing .... if someone you don't like tells a lie then they are evil.

Azriel

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Right before the vote Dani will start something with Roddy and get all upset. She will run to Dani and Marc and say 'Roddy said blah blah blah about me!' Amy and Marc will jump to her defense and Roddy gets voted out and she has Chiara's back and still doesn't break a promise to Marc and Amy.

Wcv63

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jimmer...that's what I said! And right now, it's good game playing. :O

Oregonfire

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yup, time for Roddy to go. Backlash will be minimal, if any. Now if Chiara can only keep from freaking out before Thursday, everything should be fine with the "evicting Roddy" plan.

I anticipate that whoever wins POV won't use it. Big yawn that "twist" turned out to be. I anticipate that it'll be used again when about four HGs are left.

Bailey

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it all comes down to who you see as the lesser of 2 evils. In my life, when somebody gives me their word.. game or no game.. I expect them to honor it.
I think what Dani is doing is evil and sets a bad precedent for the game as a whole. No matter how manipulative y'all may think Roddy is, nothing bothers me more than someone that smiles sweetly to my face and then stabs me in the back. It's as low as it gets.

Lilacs04

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1 -- It was more that they DIDN'T go against Chiara (remembering Jason telling Dani and Mars not to discuss strategy with him last week?) and their lies to Amy will have serious repercussions for her. Better for her not to have come back at all than be subjected to a crazy (don't mod me!) Chiara. I just think that if Dani wanted Roddy out she could have come up with a better way of doing it.

Btw, why was I modded in the last post?

Meggieprice

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
WCv-you siad my thoughts.
Dani never promised anything, and she was right to point out the POV situation to Amy. This is good playing, plain and simple. They lost one opportunity last week and they can't afford to let this one pass. If you want to look at betrayal and manipulation look no farther than Roddy- the way he talked to Amy and Marcellas about Chiara and then went to bed and spooned with her made me ill!

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