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Goddess146

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
When Amy first came back into the house and won HOH, there were those that were suspicious of how things worked out "just so." I was not one those. Now I am slowly changing my mind.

One of the reasons I did not join the suspicious team was that last night the live feed operators were letting out certain information that they wouild not let out if something unhanded had taken place. The primary information tidbit being the clues about ORD and that Amy absolutely had to win HOH. There were other bits of information about things that Amy had been told by Handlers, Producers and others. I figured that as long as the producers were letting this stuff out over the live feeds, there was nothing to be suspicious about.

Today, things have changed. There have been several long FOTHs when Amy started tallking about this stuff. Just before the last FOTH Roddy was zooming in on theme of the producers helping Amy.

I know believe that the feed controller last night was probably that John II whom the HGs feel is a crack head. He probably should have been censoring but was not. He may have even believed that it was not possible for the senior producers to have done anything wrong.

The censoring that started today now has me very suspicous that somthing funny really did happen. The implications of this are astounding. Not only will the producers have been conning us, but they will have also conned the HGs. Chiara already is very unhappy about Amy and the information she was given. Roddy is not happy and he is SMART.

When they finish the game, you can bet Roddy will be asking Tonya, Lori and Eric if the producers also told them they had to get HOH if they got into the house. If they were not also told this stuff, it is a strong sign that the producers somehow knew Amy was the one going back into the house.

If the HGs figure they have been conned they will have strong grounds for a lawsuit. They may have to wait out their year like what's-her-name from BB2.

This could be interesting. Keep an eye on what gets cesnored along these lines.

Strkaholic

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank you Goddess..EXACTLY...Amy just said her Mom loves Danielle...how does she know that...do the other HG's know who their families like??? This is complete BS!

Battlestar

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
--my bet is the contract cover this

Battlestar

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
--she said last night her mother had to be continually reminded not to talk about the game

Goddess146

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy just mentioned to Rod that she was talking with someone in the Trailer about putting Roddy and Chiara up and the possibilities of the use of the power of veto.

Strkaholic

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Battlestar..BB has to answer to authorities that regulate TV game shows...they can't be rigged in any way..all HG's have to have the same opportunities to win the game and they can't give one information they don't give the others. Amy has clearly been given said information. If not from them, from outsiders. BB should be concerned.

Crazydog

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wait a second, I understand that during sequestration they could talk to their families during the 10 minute phone calls. But I thought the calls were monitored to exclude talk of the show. It's not fair that Amy knows that her mom likes Danielle. It could influence her decisions in the game, as in, my mom really likes Danielle so I won't vote her out. As Dani would say it's SCANDALOUS.

Wcv63

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
How is the producers and/or handlers telling Amy that winning the HOH is very important (like that's not obvious anyway) any different from the mind games the BB plays with the hgs every week in the DR by "leaking" supposedly confidential DR conversations?

This whole game is an exercise in manipulation and deciphering between fact and fantasy. Lies and proganda. Puppets and puppetmaster.

Whit4you

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well bottom line is everyone ELSE in the house knew about the ORD so why should she be the only HG to not know about it - besides that it's clear she'd find out about it sooner or later these people can NOT keep a secret for more then 5 minutes.

Strkaholic

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That's what I mean Crazy. I see trouble in the horizon.

Kuchi

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
she was talking to her mom on the phone and her mom said in between talking gossip about their home town
I love dani and marc
and then her handler said you cant talk about the game

Strkaholic

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kuchi..well she did or her MOM did and that should have disqualified her from coming back to the game period...

Shan

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy's mom probably made some comment referring to how she likes Danielle during their 10 minute conversations, what could BB do except to tell her not to do it again. They could monitor the calls but once something is said they can't take it back. I'm sure the same slip-ups happened when Eric, Tonya, and Lori talked to their families.

Puckerbutt

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whit -

By your bottom line logic - Dani and Jason know about their alliance so why shouldn't every other house guests be informed of it by the producers? Why shouldn't the other house guests be the only ones who don't know? Catch my drift?

Crazydog

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree, Strkaholic. Before each phone call they should have been warned, you must tell your loved one that if you or they talk about the game, you will be ineligible for future benefits on the show. Threaten them with a fine or something. Looks like loose lips runs in the Crews family.

Strkaholic

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Shan..it should have disqualified her period...and they should have been warned that there was no second chance

Ryanc2002

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Puckerbutt - Absolutely no connection in your comparison.

Battlestar

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They didn't know it was Amy that was going to be going in. I bet all of them were shown around the set and talked to in a similar manner.

Puckerbutt

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ryan -

Why not? The point is that there will always be information that some of the house guests know while others don't - the number of house guests with or without said knowledge doesn't matter - the theory would still be the same.

Ryn

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am sure that all the eviced HGs got little tidbits of info in their phone calls.

I also can believe Amy wanted to nominate Roddy and Chiara before she came in the house - it was after their actions that got her booted out.

The weirdest thing to me was the way Roddy jumped out of the water - that was NUTS on his part, the other HGs were smart to let Amy have HoH, it what I expected to happen the second she got out.

I don't sense a conspiracy, frankly I don't care, and as someone else said, I am sure the contracts cover any possibilities of violating any game show laws, I doubt this is labeled a "game show" by the folks at CBS anyways.

Strkaholic

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Puckerbutt...true and besides, she was evicted, never mind that she (nor any of the other HG) should have ever been able to come back, but if they do, they should not have any advantages. That's how I feel and that's exactly how I would feel where I in the game.

Keiffer

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
With the way the rules to the game were set up for an evicted HG to return if Amy made it to the final two they had to know that Amy was going in against any of the other three. I mean like Eric had a chance. Three people who voted him out, and the person the nomminated him were voting on it. They would have taken anyone over him.


BIG POINT: Just a few minutes ago while Amy and Rod were talking they discussed putting Danny up against Chiara. Amy said she couldn't put DAnny up because she wants her in the final two. Makes you just wonder how much of that is home thinking????

Strkaholic

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ryn, it may not be labled a game show by folks at CBS, but that frankly does not matter..they have authorities they have to answer to. By virtue of the money price, this is a game show. Now, if there no money involved, you are right, it would be a sitcom, but there is a prize, therefore, there is a game, no matter what CBS wants to call it.

Ryanc2002

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Puckerbutt - The difference is that this information was readily given to every houseguest by the producers. Alliances are private things, this was not.

Crossfire

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If this were a problem, why would they not now call Amy into the DR, and tell her to shut up, rather than letting her spill her guts, and also potentially also allow more 'secrets' to go out on the air/feeds?