Archive through August 18, 2002
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Archive through August 18, 2002
Gouraphik | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 04:40 pm     It doesn't really matter whether Gerry made a deal or not. If and when Roddy realizes that he's the real target (via Marcellas if he tells him that Danielle floated the idea recently), Roddy will point out that keeping things as they are will lead to Gerry's quick demise. Using the Veto works for both of 'em. Roddy gets saved by Gerry, and Gerry can ally with Roddy and use him as a shield (since Danielle would target Roddy before she'd get Gerry if she had the chance). I just don't know if it will happen. |
C1mag | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 04:42 pm     Wise you are right. I believe Gerry is gonnna love all the sucking up he will get from Roddy. I think Gerry is ripe for the picking and Roddy will work his ass right out of a veto. The only think holding Gerry back would be just who Amy would be forced to nominate and he may not want to do that too her. Maybe Just convince Roddy he is staying and that he doesn't need to get that veto. |
Bailey | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 04:43 pm     I want Gerry to use the veto and save Roddy. I would love to see Amy put up Dani as a replacement.. even though I know the chances for that are slim to none. I think it'll keep this game more interesting if Roddy doesn't leave this week and watch Dani squirm a little for a change. |
Spunky | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 05:00 pm     Shoot, I go out for a while and all hell breaks loose. Of all the hgs I didn't want to win POV was Gerry and he gets it. Can't Danielle win anything?? I wonder if she's not good enough or does that on purpose. That's it. No need to speculate anymore if Roddy goes. He's safe again!! |
Allietex | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 05:28 pm     I just wish it was Marc on the nom chair so Gerry could not give it to him and tell him it was because he was so insulted the first time that he didn't want to insult him this time. |
Loppes | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 05:41 pm     Gerry has one choice only. That is to use the veto to save Roddy. It does not matter who Amy puts up in Roddy's place. Chiara has to and must go. If Dani is smart she will stop all her conniving. Lon |
Wiseolowl | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 05:49 pm     You have to remember Gerry's history about deals. He honours them . Remember when he was HOH and he owed one to Roddy. He even went so far as to ask whether Roddy wanted Chiara included in the immunity. I quickly looked at the feeds and the only agreement he made with Amy was to vote out Chiara. There was no rider that I could see about anything regarding veto -except implicitly that he wouldn't veto Chiara. But he may feel that morally the deal includes honouring Amy's ultimate choice. One thing is certain - he'll vote Chiara out |
Gouraphik | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 06:03 pm     I disagree. He'll honor deals as long as he thinks it'll be beneficial to him. In the DR, he said that he felt that his mom (or grandma...whatever) would understand if he broke a vow that he "swore on his mother's soul". He'll do it if he has to. Using the Veto will get Chiara or the replacement nom out, and keep Roddy around, who he can use. He can tell Amy that he did it to ensure that Chiara was out, in order to satisfy her desires. If she doesn't like it, oh well...it's not like he's Mr. Popular in that house anyway. |
Mr_Bozack | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 06:06 pm     I think Gerry will veto Roddy. Gerry knows from past experience that he can trust Gerry. When Roddy promised to not nominate Gerry, he was true to his word. Roddy is FAR more trustworthy than Danni is. Danni has deals and side-deals going with practically everyone in the house. If Roddy just did a little bit of snooping and found out about all the deals Danni has going on and publicly outs her on all her shiftiness, it would expose her pretty badly. Gerry has no reason to not veto Roddy and should if he hopes to go to the end. It's his best chance to make it the distance. Then, if Amy, Roddy, Marcellas and Jerry work together, they can take Danni, Jason and Lisa OUT!!! |
Jaysgal | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 06:10 pm     Wiseolowl, I think that you may have overlooked promises that Gerry didn't keep. He certainly skipped the original alliance and he was willing to evict Roddy last week, despite the oath he took. So, I think Gerry is simply flexible. He tries his best to make oaths that he can keep; but if it gets into conflict, he will let it go. I love this. I wanna see Danielle leave in shame. I hope Gerry does use the veto power. I originally was rooting for Jason. But once I saw his vote to evict Tonya, and then his continual association with Danielle, I started to lose interest in him. Marcellas and Gerry then became my favourites to win. Danielle and Roddy were my least favourites to win the game. Now, I have starting to loosen up about Roddy. I don't mind if Roddy wins the game at this point. But I do mind if Danielle does. I am still rooting for Marcellas and Gerry. Sometimes I think that Gerry is the mole. :Q LOL! I'm still glad that he is there, nonetheless. I don't mind seeing Roddy and Gerry, where Gerry comes first. I really hope that Gerry uses the veto power. And statistically, he is more likely than not to use it. Had Amy simply listened, she would have saved herself the drama. But she loves drama, so what can I say. |
Spunky | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 06:13 pm     But you don't need to use the POV to get rid of Chiara. It's a done deal. She admitted defeat. Dani is powerless right now. She knows she can't break her promise to Amy, it's just too early and she knows Roddy is staying and she can't go on insisting Roddy is the one to go. All they have to do is vote Chiara unanimously. What using the POV would do is that Amy would have to put Lisa or Jason up. Why make them suffer for nothing if they all know Chiara is going anyway. What saving Roddy would do but make those hgs enemies for Amy and Gerry? Dani and Amy should convince Gerry not to use it if he wants to stay friend with the rest of them beside Roddy. |
Gouraphik | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 06:22 pm     What you're forgetting, Spunky, is that Danielle, Lisa, and Jason have decided, on the down low, to evict Roddy instead. Gerry may be oblivious to this fact, but as long as it's a possibility, he should put the odds of survival in his favor by saving Roddy. He doesn't need to know that Marcellas & Danielle despise him. He doesn't have to know about the D/L/J plan. He just needs to know that he'll be a bigger target without Roddy there, and that he should save him. If he wants Chiara gone, it can still happen. It just will have to happen without putting his shield (Roddy) at risk. That's all. |
Spunky | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 06:35 pm     I think Danielle had the idea of getting rid of Roddy if the POV was won by anyone but Gerry. Once Gerry had the power to save Roddy, what's the use for Danielle to continue with her strategy. She has to back down and go along with Gerry's wish to keep Roddy, but she has to make a deal with Gerry saying, don't use the veto and we will not vote for Roddy. This way she is saving someone else from her alliance to go up. She can't afford to go against her promises, not yet anyway knowing Roddy is staying. |
Kminfinity | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:39 pm     If Gerry knows that Dani is gunning for Roddy, it is in his best interest to either : ~Veto Roddy, thereby keeping the eviction focus off himself for another week (Make a deal with Roddy too) ~Haggle with Dani, forcing her to promise to evict Chiara even if he doesn't veto Roddy... He should make doubly sure this deal is stated in front of Amy, so that Amy knows that Gerry forbore to veto Roddy because he knew Chiara was going, as per Amy's request. That way, if he doesn't use the veto, and Roddy is evicted anyway, he should have Amy's support after that, and maybe, just maybe he could fashion an alliance with Amy and Chiara... On second thought, NAh.... |
Csnog | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:41 pm     Gerry will not use the veto tomorrow. |
Bkmac | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:44 pm     I don't think he'll use it. I do think he could get a deal out of Roddy and Roddy would stick with it. I doubt the same could be said of Chiara, I don't think she's looking for any overt deals. |
Jaysgal | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:50 pm     What makes you say that, Csnog? Danielle hardly has any real deal to offer to Gerry. Roddy has something real to offer to Gerry. What makes you assert that he would not use it? I am curious. |
Skol | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:59 pm     Gerry uses the line..no permanent friends and no permanent enemies. He also calls his agreements coalitions not alliances. The deals he has made since his pov speech, he has kept to. Someone offers him a deal, he takes it and he keeps to it. The only time he was going to break that was when he was going to vote out Roddy over Josh, but luckily for him, he didn't have to do it, so he should be looking good for a deal right now. I don't understand why Roddy hasn't put anything to him yet. I think he's starting to feel a bit depressed. He seems to have lost his will to keep playing the game. Maybe he's just tired of it all right now. |
Spunky | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:00 pm     Gerry could shake things up by saving both Roddy and Chiara. Not only he saves Roddy but Amy putting Dani up (they convinced her now) Chiara may stay and Dani go. I think Dani has now a reason to be afraid and wants desperately to make a deal with Gerry by promising him to evict Chiara and so begging him not to use it. He would listen to Dani, but if Roddy makes a deal with Gerry AND Amy to save Chiara as well, Dani will be gone. Gerry, not only could shake things up he could demolish them... |
Fungii | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:30 pm     Don't get my hopes up, Spunky.  |
C1mag | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:34 pm     I'm beginning to wonder if right after the veto Gerry made it clear to Dani that he wasn't going to Veto so this is why she went to Marcellus. It just doesn't make since that she would blabber to Marcellus without knowing what Gerry is doing for sure. I think he must have told her already and promised. She isn't this STUPID! She would be working him right now and not allowing Roddy to play chess with the man at all. Instead she is drinking herself into early bedtime. Maybe the deal is already sealed and Gerry isn't gonna veto. |
C1mag | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 09:00 pm     Alright here is Roddys chance to start working Gerry and yet he isn't taking the opportunity. I think Gerry has already decided he isn't going to use it and Roddy isn't gonna press it. Rod still thinks he's staying because Dani was careful not to let it out to marc that Jason is gonna boot him. She wanted it to appear as if she needed Marcellus vote. I really feel that Gerry ins't gonna veto and they already know it. Dani is being too passive and Roddy isn't doing anything. |
Maris | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 09:02 pm     Roddy doesnt see any reason to push it with Gerry. Chiara has already told him that she is going to ask people to vote her out. Now Chiara has also told him that she has Lisa and Dani. Roddy figures he has nothing to worry about. Even if Gerry does not use the veto, everyone will vote Chiara out because she wants it. YEP |
Whit4you | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 09:09 pm     Reading this thread and all those worried that Gerry might use the veto to get Roddy off the block has me wondering - did you see last thursday's show? The HG's had a chance to get Roddy out and all 5 of them voted for him to stay in the house - so why would it matter if he is or isn't on the block he won't be going Chaira will. In addition to that these people had their chance to get rid of their biggest threat and all 5 choose not to so none of them deserve the win - except maybe Amy since she didn't vote to keep Roddy in the house AND was willing to put him up. |
Maris | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 09:11 pm     Dani is all nervous now Whit because she found out that Roddy is determined to get rid of her. Dani wants any threat out of the way and she wants it done before Roddy has a chance to get HOH. Dani is driving this. |
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