Keiffer | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 07:40 am     Spree you point out him not taking responsablity as him telling lies? Can any posters show were Roddy told a lie to a person. You guys talk about how hard it is to believe his niceness is real because he does it so much???? The truth is besides Jason he has been the one most respectful of every other HG in there. I suppose Jason is believed for this behavior because he reads the bible and is a virgin... that mean because Roddy isnt he must be faking it. If Roddy has been acting like a nice guy for 42 days without a break then he should get a great acting career after this show, because he should get an Emmy. |
Ellenkats | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 07:43 am     Wcv63 -- I didn't get to bed until 3:30 -- woke up at by 8 with parrots calling 'helloooooooo?' down the hall, and all the cats in bed with me meowing loudly in my ear, batting at my hair, making biscuits on my pillow, and walking (make that stomping) across my stomach in efforts to persuade me to get up and feed them. Somehow getting up sounded like a fair deal at the time.... |
Wcv63 | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 07:58 am     Keiffer you are convoluting the issue by insinuating that we don't like Roddy because he is so "nice" and we can't believe that he can possibly be that "nice." First off, change the word "nice" to "patronizing" and add in "condescending" so you can really get the full effect. That is how I feel about Roddy. "Nice" doesn't even enter the equation. Additionally, I don't care about game lies. I really don't. But the whole "Josh did it" and "Tonya twisted things to make it look like Chiara and I were a couple" aren't really just game lies are they? They are a way for him to extricate himself from the uncomfortable mistake of involving himself in a personal relationship. That's really dispicable. Ellen: Yes, I can see your point! |
Maris | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 08:09 am     I dont like Roddy but he is playing the best game so far. This game is about lies, it was about lies last year and it will be about lies this year. It is not possible to go all the way to the end of this game without lying to someone. Every single HG has lied or misled the other HGs including Jason. I am not making excuses for Roddy but who categorized the personal relationship, it wasn't Roddy. He has found himself in a situation with a woman who is emotionally volatile and who could cost him the game. Chiara is holding on to him as tight as she can and she will not let go. I dont think anyone should be naieve enough to think that she is doing it out of love. Its about who will take her to the end. She knows she can't do it by herself and the best way to do it was to selle herself. she would need a man and Roddy was it. Roddy is doing whatever he can to get away from Chiara without looking like a total jerk, but he wants to cut her loose. A lot of people are looking to cut people loose about now. Marcellas wants to cut Amy loose after this HOH. Dani wants to cut Marcellas Loose and Roddy is willing to pick up the pieces. Its all about the game. |
Keiffer | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 08:09 am     Wcv I was just commenting on the remarks made by Rod. I understand that people think he must be patronizing when he gives compliments to others, and condescending when he explains trivia to people that either don't know it already or don't care to talk about anything other than movies or TV shows. People in general like to feel like they are smart people, and hate it when a person allways seems to know more than they do. Kind of the Al Gore affect. Insecurity or an unwillingness to accept new knowledge will often propell people into calling the information giver names like condescending. I really don't think Roddy means anything evil when he tries to lift conversations above pop culture. I still that the final weeks of the game would be very interesting if you ended up with a D/J/L alliance fighting the ARM alliance. Would be tough for me to choose a person to root for because I like Lisa, and Roddy.... maybe I can get lucky and they end up in the finals together. |
Grannygrunt | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 08:09 am     My question is this..........If Roddy doesn't want the appearance of being a couple with Chiara, then why does he do the things he does. He was selling Chiara down the river this morning in the hot tub with Mar. Then as soon as they went to bed, Roddy cuddles up with Chiara. Now, if I am mad at hubby for various and asundry things, the very LAST thing I am gonna do is cuddle and make him think everything is just dandy. Which is why my opinion of Roddy is that he is just dirt. Behind her back it was Tonya's fault that they were a couple........well he is a grown man and is capable of making discisions. So if he is trying to distant himself from her PLEASE, PLEASE tell me why he continues to give her hugs and kisses and cuddles in bed. To me that is just the low road that everyone accused Josh of taking. (in my humble opinion) |
Wcv63 | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 08:17 am     Grannygrunt, Hear! Hear! Great post! Keiffer: "Insecurity or an unwillingness to accept new knowledge will often propell people into calling the information giver names like condescending." Do you even see the irony in this statement? |
Mollywood | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 08:22 am     Roddy holds the cards with both Amy and Marc. because he offers the one thing dan cant..sex. roddy appeals to the sexuality of all the guests to various degrees..but he has these two sizzling in my opinion, or if he hasnt yet, hell work it so he does..im starting to like roddy more and more..hes smart..cant deny it |
Maris | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 08:24 am     I am not saying that Roddy isnt playing a game but Chiara is playing the same game too. When she thinks he is straying away from her loyalty she does her boyfriend/girlfriend thing. She climbs on top of him in a chair. Roddy is playing the game any way he can play it and so is Chiara and it was a mutually beneficial arrangement till Amy came back to the house. Roddy is now cutting his losses. He is in a pickle and he even said it to Marcellas. He said he cant turn his back on Chiara because he has made such a big deal about loyalty so far. He will get others to do the work for him. He will stroke Chiara until she hopefully gets evicted on Thursday. And as Marcellas said he will substitute one girl for another. That is his game. Everyone else is playing games with relationships as well. It isnt just Roddy. As I said I dont like him. I think he is just another Gerry just twenty years younger but so far he is playing the best game and it looks like he will go all the way. |
Woodpecke® | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 08:25 am     To say that Roddy is playing the best game so far is not being able to see the end of the game. Roddy has been too visible and is working overtime to ensure being a factor at the end. The end result will be his eviction, now or later. It will occur, the time has yet to be determined. He is very manipulative in nature, but hasn't been able to convince anyone in this house that he is genuine. They are all very aware what he is up to, but the button hasn't been pushed yet. POV today may be the final chapter. The best game being played so far is by Jason, he has stayed out of all disputes and maintained a cordial relationship with everyone. Roddy has fine survival skills, but even he has limitations. |
What555456 | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 08:29 am     Interesting that Roddy always goes to the emoitonally weak for alliances. With the exception of Eric, which was more a male bonding thing, Roddy's closest supprters are those who are so insecure, they need a strong man supporting them, telling them what to do. Danielle, on the other hand, tends to bring together the stronger people and work with them as a team. Interesting watching their two styes of leadership. |
Maris | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 08:29 am     Time will tell Woodpecker. Jason is very slowly rising in altitude and is climbing above radar. This next week will be critical and he may not survive. Dani, Lisa and Roddy remarked last night that Jason looked like he was cracking under pressure. |
Wcv63 | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 08:30 am     Woodpecker you appeal to the optimist in my soul! |
Grannygrunt | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 08:32 am     I can only hope that today Mar will spill his guts to Dani and/or Amy about Roddy trying to make a deal with him. Then Mar could go to Chiara and tell her Roddy is trying to get someone else to put her up and vote her out so that he doesn't have to "break his word" to her. Then we could have another fight in the backyard started by Mar and the Mar could very sweetly say "I didn't want this to become a Roddy bashing." (as Roddy did with the Josh fight.) |
Maris | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 08:33 am     Funny what, Eric struck me as being very weak and in awe of Roddy's intellect. Eric was very impressed with Roddy and was always looking for his approval. Remember Eric running to Roddy the morning after his liaison with Lisa, giggling like a schoolgirl and revealing his secrets? |
Lurknomore | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 08:37 am     Ok, as usual I missed all this. Perish the thought anything good happened during hours I might be conscious (which is most of them). But my feelings are there are very few if any "true alliances" in that house. Possibly Dani and Jason, but I'm not 100% about that. I think there are a lot of irons in a lot of fires, and depending which way HOH's and votes go, on to plan B or C or D. So I don't think this alliance is any less true than the M/D/J alliance...only another iron in the fire. Same way Dani has been trying to be everyone's friend. I think most of them have a preferred plan, with a few backups in case things don't go the way they hope. |
Grannygrunt | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 08:41 am     Lurk, once again with your calm and steadfastness you have settled me down once more. Thank you for helping me see the light. I really want there to still be the M/D/J alliance and for a brief moment lost my one glimmer of hope when I saw Roddy working on Mar. But you have put my feet back on the floor and I truly mean that. I just get so caught up in the moment and need your calming words to help me. THANKS. |
Rod | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 08:41 am     grannygrunt you are ever the hopeful one n'est-ce pas...but don't count on it. Marci is pretty smart and he knows he stands a better chance of making it against Roddy than against Dani in the final 2 (Roddy doesn't know the number of enemies he has but Marci does) Besides I think Marci is really captivated by Roddy..he wants him to be the sincere good guy he acts to be. He has been distancing himself from Dani for over a week, a thing she noted to jason. I really think this is an official team ..rod/Marc. I sincerely hope I am wrong..although I don't know why as it makes for excellent viewing. It would be boring if Dani had it all her own way. |
Dfwteddy | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 08:45 am     Grannygrunt -- SCANDALOUS! That would be worth the price of LFs... |
Kailas | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 08:46 am     The following is not good news to me who wants roddy booted out!!! Even Roddy's friends from back home said it on TV: Roddy is so smooth and has so much charisma, he can work anybody..."He is the one of us who can get on an airplane without a ticket..." Will he win it all??? Can you say "Dr. Will......." |
Woodpecke® | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 08:51 am     Thank you WCV63. The nattering nabobs of negativity that frequent this board are being lulled into the Roddy trap that they are warning the houseguests about. The players have him figured out, the people on the board don't give Danielle, Jason, Lisa et al any credit whatsoever. King Smarmy is dead. |
Wcv63 | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 08:54 am     Woodpecker: "nattering nabobs of negativity" Where have I heard this phrase before? It sounds so familiar! |
Maris | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 08:58 am     I dont see where Dani has been very successful. Go back to when Marcellas was HOH, she really wanted to use the POV and no matter how she worked it Marcellas would not give in. She could not get Jason to go along with evicting Roddy last week, she couldnt convince Marcellas to go along with it either and that was before Josh shot himself in the foot. All she had was Lisa. All Dani has right now that she can absolutely count on is Lisa. She couldnt get Amy to nominate Roddy or at least that is the way it looks right now. Jason only Has Dani. Marc and Roddy are ready to turn away from him. Marc right now only has Amy but she isnt listening to him either on the nominations. Roddy is working all the angles and if he is successful in staying off the block and can reel in Marcellas and Amy, then he deserves the credit even if he is an obnoxious jerk. I will be totally disgusted if Roddy wins it but I will concede that he played it masterfully. |
Onlymytulips | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:01 am     I think Roddy is campaigning the only two people he can. It makes me ill seeing the emotional ones being played. Amy and Marcellas are happy with themselves. Proves my theroy about life in general, happiness can be a weakness. |
Wcv63 | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:04 am     Woodpecker...you inspired me to go look up the reference for that phrase! Thank you for helping me to enrich my mind past the happenings of BB! |
Rod | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 10:32 am     well Wcv don't keep us in suspense... |
Rod | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 10:35 am     Spiro Agnew!?? haven't heard that name in a long time...nattering nabobs of negativity..well it was a good phrase |
Kittykatt | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 10:39 am     im sure marci is going to tell amy under no circumstance should she put Roddy up or he is gone.. |
Dfwteddy | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 10:39 am     I may have a faulty memory, but wasn't the "nattering nabobs of negativity" phrase something former Vice President Spiro Agnew (remember him?) used when describing the press? (Guess I'm showing my age a bit!) |
Lurknomore | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:53 pm     awwwww Granny thanks! Just catching up with this thread. I seem to be wayyyy behind on most everything here. I'm just still doing a happy dance over the noms |