When Eric left a new HG emerged....and I like it!
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Cheerleader

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 08:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Who else here is liking the new and improved Lisa? She's playing the game right by joining the aliance with danielle...and KiKi better watch her back!

Dfwteddy

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 08:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Haven't been to the CBS board in a while, but I may and would certainly improve her ranking (while lowering Marcellas')... She should win a MOST IMPROVED PLAYER award this week.

Toolhound

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 08:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree I love the new Lisa. What did she call herself The princess of Evil?

Bandmom

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 08:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I love the new and improved Lisa! I just hope that Eric doesn't come back in and mess things up.

Marymc

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 08:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOVE lisa now!!!! she looks ALIVE. hope she has learned to never become one of those "lose your personality when your man is around" types EVER AGAIN!!!

Alaginger

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 08:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes........Lisa has moved way up on my list of "favorites".......

Cheerleader

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 08:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I loved seeing Eric and Lisa together but him coming back could ruin her! So I say Eric stay away and let Lisa do her thing!

Crazydog

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 08:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I would like to see Eric come back, and the two of them displace Roddy and Chiara as the power couple. With Lisa's new deviousness, she could trick Dani into thinking she is with her. Eric can pal up to Roddy. The two of them will pick off the others one by one with their treachery and make it to the finals together.

Keiffer

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 09:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Do people like Lisa now just because she has at this point seemed to join Dan in an effort to Chaira bash? Would her status on this board be going up if she had re-commited to the game by joining with Roddy and Chiara to fight the D/M/Jas group?

I mean if Roddy was actually as smart as people make him out to be on this board he would have been able to show Lisa that Dan had actually mannipulated the voting siutation for her advantage the whole week that Lisa was up. He would be able to show her that D/M/j are in an alliance and if she joins up with them she is 4th, but with him and Chiara she is 3rd at worst.

Next week with Chiara and Rod in the HRD, if Lisa stays in that room (depends on if Eric is back) who knows what will happen. It seems to me the best plotting occurs when going to bed, and Lisa has a week in a room with the D/M/J alliance and so they have mannipulated her into their way of thinking. If she is in a room with R/C for a week who knows.

If C/R get Lisa back under the tent will people still be raving about her, or will they start bashing her again I wonder? Even though for the game that could be in her advantage.

Mollywood

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 09:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Go Lisa. my favorite house guest now. smart,dark side, and not rude. and pretty too. if eric does come back i dont think she'll change, she is on a mission now..go girl

Kaili

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 09:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yep, Keiffer- I think that's it (because she is on the side against C and R now).

I like Lisa more now because, quite frankly, she is getting more involved in the house now that Eric is gone (in terms of interacting and giving us something to watch besides her telling Eric how beautiful he is).

Whit4you

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 09:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I never disliked Lisa - but she was part of a group I wanted to see ended (the 6 pack...then the 4 pack) Now that that has disbanned I listen to and watch her more and ya she's ok - reminds me a bit to much of myself though in some ways that I'm not proud of so that bugs me....lol. But she's one of the more interesting female players I've seen in BB now that eric is gone.

Seamonkey

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 09:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer, if Roddy and Chiara had their druthers, Lisa would be long gone; why would she want to ally with them?

I'm just happy to see some LIFE in the woman :)

Keiffer

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 09:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
There are 3 big reasons Lisa would want to ally with Roddy and Chiara. They are Danny, Marcy and Jboy. Those three are as tight if not tighter than the 4 members of the couples were, and with them if she gets down to it she has only a 1-4 chance of winning, with R/C she has a 1-3 chance og getting that crucial HoH at the end. I also do think that Dan is more loyal ro Jas than Rod is to Chiara.

Listen I can see her being upset with Chaira because she assumed what Chaira's vote would be even though they never discussed it, and Chaira had not promised Lisa her support. The only support talked amoungst the four of them was loyalty to ALL of the four. When two of the four went up it was fair game to vote for either. If Lisa had wanted Chaira's vote LISA messed up in not securing it. Lisa was the won on the block, not Chaira. It isn't Chaira's fault Lisa didn't play the game the week she was up. Add to that there is FOR SURE no reason to upset with ROddy's vote because she for sure never tried to get his vote, and it was assumed he would vote for Eric.

My original point is that this board right now is in love with Lisa because she is bad mouthing C/R. If that stops her stock on her will drop like a rock on here.... even though it could be in her best interest when it comes to the game.

Fruitbat

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 09:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I like Lisa and have for awhile. She got off to a poor start by exclaiming she had no competition with the other women. She is not, at all, like that and it makes me wonder if she was set up to say that.

I like her strength and emotional stability. She did not disolve when Eric left. She even admitted that it may be the best for her in terms of the game. She is level headed and has not been mean to anyone.

Her relationship with Eric seems solid and sincere. The conditions are artificial so who knows where it will lead but it looks like it could survive.

I would like to see her win. Of course that could change. This game changes so rapidly.

Foodbunny

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 10:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I like Lisa and I'd like to see Eric come back to see how she'd handle it. I have a feeling Eric would roll right over and do whatever she told him to, but I'm not certain. It would be an interesting situation.

I don't think aligning herself entirely with Danielle is the smartest move she has made. She should play the middle and gradually pick off both teams, because if either team gets a clear lead then she's gone. Unfortunately her feelings towards Chiara and Danielle constantly being in her ear are keeping her from seeing that.

Her survival depends on keeping both those groups targeted on each other and not on her.

Sunni

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 10:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I like how Lisa is playing the game now (since Dani has taught her how). I was highly disappointed in her when she was with Eric. I hope Eric doesn't return because she will go back to being in his shadow and I think she knows that. I really liked her in the last episode when she told/showed Josh that she keeps her mouth closed and her eyes opened. The same thing Dani showed her to do. She just might bump Marc out of the final 3.

Floresmama

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 10:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I like Lisa most of the time except when she is trying to act like Gerry is a pervert for looking at her in the skimpy clothes she chooses to wear. He seems to me to be much less lecherous than Kent was last year. Besides if she doesn't want people to look at her a$$ she shouldn't wear a thong out were everyone can see her.

Crazydog

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 10:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree that Lisa should play both sides, which is why if she was smart she should not have voted out Roddy. Roddy and Chiara think she is with the two of them, while Dani thinks she is with her alliance. Dani needs Lisa for the numbers. But at the end, I don't see why Dani wouldn't get rid of Lisa before either of her other two. I also would like Eric to come back to see how she would handle it. It'd be great if the two of them played both sides against each other and ended up in the finals.

Squaredsc

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 10:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
at least now i don't have to ask, lisa who? and since i don't particularly care for roddy or chia, my opinion of lisa has gone up a few notches.

Moedog

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 11:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm just glad she's finally decided to join the game. Better late than never. I'm excited to see what the "new" Lisa, Princess of Darkness, has in store for us.

Ocean_Islands

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 11:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You know, it's not perverted to look at a girl who is parading around in a bikini. Get real.

Groucho

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 12:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer -- Lisa has more reasons for being upset with Chiara and Roddy than you imply in your post. It's not just that Chiara voted against her, it's that she lied to her about it. Also, Roddy and Chiara were both actively campaigning to get her out.

If Chiara had been smart, she would have come clean to Lisa immediately after Eric's eviction and come up with a plausible explanation -- how it was a tough decision because she was good friends with both, Josh told her lies that made her doubt Lisa while Roddy was promising her that Eric would be a great ally, etc. Which is basically the truth, if not the whole truth. Chiara might very well have been able to bring Lisa back into the fold. Instead, she made the situation worse by lying and avoiding, feeding right in to Dani's hands.

Personally I like the new Lisa because she's more intriguing to watch. I'd love to see her play both sides, as Crazydog suggested. I'd hate to see her return to being a wallflower.

Keiffer

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 12:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
All good points Groucho...

I agree that the truth would have probably gotten her off Lisa's hit list. Especially if she had talked to Lisa before she went to bed with Danny that night. If Lisa had already heard from Chiara that night when Danny started in with Lisa Lisa would have been able to play it up, and find out more info that helped C/R/L as a group. Danny would have looked like an instigator ala Josh had Lisa been told before hand.

Tj2353

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 12:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It really isn't the fact that she's FINALLY PLAYING the Game...but, that she gives the impression that she's gonna be GOOD AT IT! Let's not assume that she's not intelligent enough to see what's going on with EVERYONE and ball-z enough to put HER OWN plan into action.

*FoodBunny: "I like Lisa and I'd like to see Eric come back to see how she'd handle it. I have a feeling Eric would roll right over and do whatever she told him to, but I'm not certain. It would be an interesting situation."
~Yes, let's assume she can handle his returning and this time not be 'blinded' by his affection for her and keep her mind on the PRIZE! And if they both play it right, they can enjoy it 'together' after they are FREE!

**SUNNI: "I like how Lisa is playing the game now (since Dani has taught her how). I was highly disappointed in her when she was with Eric. I hope Eric doesn't return because she will go back to being in his shadow and I think she knows that."
~Hmmm...(?) Lisa needs to be Lisa, not Eric's play-thing, not Danielle's obedient child, nor anyone elses anything. And I am giving her credit for now and assuming she's doing just that...being strong-willed & determined to be in the final 3. Shoot...BRING HIM (eric) ON! She can handle him.(& still luv him 2)

***KEIFFER: IT'S NOT ALWAYS ABOUT CHIARA!!! This time it's about a strong & might I add decent woman named...LISA!!!

PEACE

Curlyq

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 01:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I guess I'm in a tiny minority, but I'm reserving judgment on Lisa because frankly so far I'm not impressed. Her warning to Josh about not messing with darkness just came off as a poorly executed empty threat in my eyes. I found myself uttering a sarcastic "Oooooooooo!" I think she's just playing to the cameras more now.

I would love to see her actually display some skills on her own, but instead so far I only see her following Dani's lead. I got a laugh last night when they showed Dani's DR entry about keeping your mouth shut and your eyes open soon followed by Lisa parroting those same words, complete with the hand gestures.

So far I only see Lisa as someone who wants to play the role of a dangerous woman, but doesn't really have the stuff to back it up. I hope I'm wrong, for entertainment's sake. I admit I am also biased in my opinion of her since I lost all respect for her after she let Josh make all her HOH decisions for her in week 1.

Lexie

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 03:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I like the new Lisa.....I love the way she is "thinking" and letting Chiara dig herself into an even deeper hole. It's about time !!!


I don't want to see Eric come back into the house...I don't think he would roll over and do whatever she says...because he is to much a Roddy fan. It would make it very difficult for Lisa to play the game she wants to play now ...if Eric comes back. I think she truly cares for him and he clouds her judgement and her ability to play the game.... she doesn't need that now.

Ricki55

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 03:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Curlyq stole my thoughts! There's just something about her I don't like. I find her kind of cocky sometimes. I hope I'm wrong.

Eag1962

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 03:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry I just cannot stand Lisa, and TJ how can you possibly link the word decent to Lisa?

Curlyq, I was laughing at that whole, "Mouth shut and eyes open" too. I'm sure those were not the promises she made to Eric.

As much as Josh got on my nerves I'd rather see him win than Lisa.

Tj2353

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 04:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
*EAG: First, you don't have to apologize for the way you feel...especially when you know you don't really mean it.(i typed that with a smile on my face) Second, uh, link decent with Lisa, um, 'cause that's the way I feel... and I bet you noticed that I didn't apologize for it either. (also typed with a smile and an "i'll be glad when the show comes on in a few" thought)

**Curly: I meant to mention that also. Geeezzzz...Mouth shut - Eyes open! ... what the heck!!! That was not only funny, that was downright SCARRY! That is why I said, she needs to be her own person and not an Erica or a Daniella or Joshette or.............but a 'decent LISA with a brain'. I think she can do it. If not, well whatever...she's not gonna share the money with me anyway.

PEACE

Momiee43

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 11:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The way I see it right now, I would love to see Lisa go all the way. I think she and Jason are the only ones who haven't cornered Amy trying to influence her nomanations. I am hoping Amy will not put either up on the block, And as much as I would love to see Roddy evicted, I am so looking forward to hearing Lisa say I vote to evict KiKi. If she is on the block she will not get to vote.