Groucho | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 08:42 pm     If Amy really wants Chiara gone, then it makes sense to nominate Jason instead of Roddy. BUT she has to make sure that: -- She explains to everyone that she didn't put up Roddy only because she wanted to ensure that Chiara would go. Jason is just a decoy. -- She gets Roddy to promise not to vote to keep Chiara, not to veto Chiara, and not to campaign for Chiara. If not she'll nominate him. -- She quietly lets everyone know about Roddy's promises, just in case he decides to break them. Plus, it will drive Chiara crazy to know that Roddy made all these promises against her to save his own behind. Amy will love that If Amy does this then I think her nominations will work out fine. Amy doesn't owe the other HGs anything. If they really wanted Roddy out, they could have voted him out last week. Or they could have gotten HoH themselves instead of expecting Amy to do their dirty work for them. |
Muse | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 08:59 pm     Moedog, I'd take that wager. I think Danielle would like to be next to Jason in the final two. If she won the final HOH and both she and Jason were still around, I think she'd take him regardless of who the other person was. |
Ellenkats | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 09:00 pm     Though even if Amy did wise up and nom Roddy and Chiara -- who knows. Chiara is liable to get so unstable and crazy acting, she'll make Josh look like he was calm. If something like that happened, Chiara would be voted out, and Roddy would strengthen his other alliances just a little more. |
Bmh | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 09:06 pm     Danielle is working Amy now..lol omg..this show is making me crazy..Amy keeps saying she hasn't made up her mind yet and the keys aren't in the box yet..so who knows who she is gonna put up..Will she listen to Dani or will she listen to Roddy..who is the better manipulator..we shall see tomrrow Darn I am going on vacay...and I wont be back until next saturday..I am bringin my VCR with me so I can tape the episodes..lol |
Wendo | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 09:14 pm     The funny thing is. Marcellas et. al. railed last week how they don't like the decoy, they hate strong arm tactics, and shady deals. However, his "girl" is saying she's going to do the same thing. I guess it's ok if someone does it when Marcellas isn't on the block. This house is full of hypocrites. The only ones I don't see as hypocrites are Dani and Jason. Even Roddy is a hypocrite, dragging out morality and honesty. Phah! He isn't any better. |
Moedog | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 09:21 pm     Muse, you're on! Danielle wants the 1/2 mil... desperately. Her ego is a big as Roddy's so maybe she thinks her game playing abilities will persuade the jury that she deserves to win even going up against Jason. It's possible, but I really don't believe she wants Jason there at the end if she makes it that far. The evictees are no longer sequestered so they'll see the tapes (if their families recorded them), and they can come here and go to other sites to find out how they were played. Bmh, have a WONDERFUL vacation! You'll be missed. : ) |
Hosewater | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 10:21 pm      |
Maris | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 10:24 pm     Dani not a hypocrite????? I guess you missed her telling Chiara today that she had her back. |
Ellenkats | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 10:26 pm     I think 'have your back' is sorta like 'got your nose' to Dani. |
Mizinvancouver | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 10:27 pm     I all....sorry for my ignorance....but when is the nominations? |
Sanfranjoshfan | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 10:28 pm     "I guess you missed her telling Chiara today that she had her back"....STABBED! LOL |
Bmh | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 10:28 pm     Maris Chiara's lies cancel Dani's lies..Danielle will give her word and keep to it..if she is giving her word to a honorable person..but she feels she can break trust with Chiara..because Chiara has already done the same to her..by voting to evict Lisa |
Maris | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 10:34 pm     no no no. Your word is your word. Dont give your word to someone and then make an excuse that they arent honorable therefore I will not be honorable either. There is no honor among thieves. They are all playing the game and will lie and cheat whoever they can to win. The only one I think so far that isnt doing that is Marcellas and that is only because he hasnt got anyone who wants to make an alliance with him. Not a single person in that house is honorable. Even Jason said he knows he will have to lie. |
Wendo | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 10:36 pm     Actually, I think she told Chiara she had her back too soon. She said that on the assumption that Chiara and Roddy would be going up together. Since Roddy is/was her first target, well, then she would "have her back". She spoke to soon. |
Spunky | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 10:38 pm     Dani has no choice but to use the veto, if she wins it. If she leaves Jason on the block, her alliance will be over. They will know she is using them all. She may not want to use the veto knowing they want Chiara out anyway. But she can't risk that, she has to save Jason to prove that she can be trusted. All her good work will be for noth, otherwise. |
Ryn | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 10:40 pm     Nominations are tommorow - they are usually today (friday) |
Wcv63 | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 10:41 pm     Mizinvan: Nominations usually take place on Fridays at 5pm or so BB time. But this week they pushed them back to Saturday to accommodate the twist and having a new person back in the house. |
Muse | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 10:44 pm     Why, Spunky? What alliance? If Jason and Chiara are nominated and Danielle uses the veto, her best bet is to not use it. Jason would be safe, with definite votes from Marcellas, Lisa, and Danielle. Chiara would probably think she's staying (since Roddy, Lisa, and Danielle would supposedly save her), but that wouldn't be the case. The only thing that would happen would be Chiara leaving (angry with Lisa and Dani, no doubt, but who cares), and Roddy knowing that most people in the house want him out. But he knew that anyway. |
Mizinvancouver | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 10:56 pm     Thanks a bunch WCV63..... I thought it was supposed to be Friday...didn't know what was going on. Off the topic...(sorry mods... you can move this elsewhere or delete) but why are the houseguests only allowed to have peanut butter till midnight tonight? Did they have the food challenge for the week? Thanks a bunch in advance of getting my answer. :-) |
Snee | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 10:56 pm     but maris, this a game in which your 'word' doesn't have to mean anything. if you don't lie then i don't think you are playing very well. i don't think lying and scheming and what have you makes you dishonourable because this is not life. now in real life? different story. not the decoy thing again! *shakes head* no no no no nooooooo! |
Maris | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 11:11 pm     I agree Snee, its a game, I was just commenting on Bmh saying that when Dani will give her word and keep to it. I dont see that happening. Dani will give her word to anyone and then make an excuse why she didnt keep it. The usual excuse is something about "the devil" which means nothing in my book. |
Snee | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 11:32 pm     ah, i see maris. i was thinking, 'this isn't the maris post i usually read!' |
Sanfranjoshfan | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 11:32 pm     All this "keeping your word" stuff among a group of 12 people and only ONE can win.....HUH? The only way to keep your word in there is to either protect your alliance partner's back all throughout the entire game (this can only be one other person because there is only going to be a final TWO....if you have three in an alliance you will have to betray one at the end of the game)....OR.....to NEVER make any alliance promise at all, ever. I think it would be a GREAT BB game if they had 12 Dr Evils! Imagine 12 people that all promise to lie right to each other's faces just like BB2Will did...everybody would have to assume that EVERYBODY else was lying, and that would make it an equal game of 12 independent players with no obligations at all. That sounds like really evil fun. :-) |
Ellenkats | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 11:38 pm     SanFran -- I couldn't afford the therapy for what you're suggesting. :-) |
Snee | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 11:53 pm     i couldn't afford the therapy but i sure would pay for the feeds! |
Fabnsab | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 12:47 am     Didn't Amy basically infer that she wouldn't nominate Jason or Lisa, thats why they left the tub. They left "knowing" she was going to nominate Rod and Chia. That is such a slap in the face to them both. Her word means nothing to them but she cares about Roddy's feelings about being nommed twice in a row? Why isn't anyone showing her the error of her thinking!!! |
Saph036 | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:03 am     I just have one thing to say... Amy has let me down. Another Roddy zombie has been created! Notice: To all Alaskan citizens be aware of the Rodmonster coming to a town near you... ;) |
Snogrl | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:19 am     Saph I'm from Anchorage and I've actually spent time thinking of what I might say to old Rod if I bump into him |
Almatad | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 02:15 am     This is “Morality Play” . at it’s best!!!!!! For crying out Loud. Shakespeare could not have developed a plot line as exquisite as this…These people are beside themselves!!!!! Amy came back.…”let’s be honest here”……..at a very un- opportune time. She just spend a couple of weeks in Mexico…she has had time to reflect…too realize what “lines” she trampled on, (come on we all know she actually stomped on them!!). ……. but within a few weeks of the “Mexican Sun” and “Margaretville”........she has had time to figure out the “error” of her ways” All, I can say is…..how fun and/or convenient!!! What matters now is what really matters to me now who ultimately wins…….I am surprised at my self……I am finding I do not have a definite favorite…..my favorite is the one who is ”getting it”. We all know who that is…. this is the first time this game is being played from a strategy, I am very much enjoying the game….the interplay. Not one of the House Guests knows whom to trust. With the addition of Amy back in to the game, it has caused all the players to rethink their strategy....even those that did not have one before. All in all it is fun to watch. I can't wait for next week to see the new twist....this is better than a "car accident"……..is that not what Shakespeare depended on????…human interaction……… All I have to say…Arnie bring it on…I want to be entertained………my only caveat is…even if you do not fully realize it…you have been playing to the INTERNET”…realize where your strength is coming form…. All said and done…… Go AMY Go!!!!! |