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Rissa

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think it's fair that an evicted HG got to return to the house at all (but out of the 4, I am glad it was Amy), but I think the conspiracy theories about Amy getting HOH is pushing it. I don't think it's out of line that any sane person would know that if BB was NOT handing out a safe-week for the returnee that they d*&# well better get HOH if they wanted to last more than one vote. I am sure Amy was thinking that and that any of her handlers didn't have to have ANY inside info. to make that determination as well.

BB went the distance, making sure the HOH competition was one that could not in ANY WAY be rigged. or seen to be rigged. If it was question/answer then there could be a doubt whether Amy was fed answers. Any skill competition at all and Amy could have been coached. The tub ordeal was simply... who wanted it the most. Make sure Amy is aware of how much she needs HOH and then let her take her chances. And of course, as soon as Roddy got out.. you could see the others (maybe not Jerry) NOT trying to win at all but seeing how they could hand it to Amy without looking obvious. LOL

Car54

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 10:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Didn't you see Survivor 1 when Rich took his hand off the pole and left Rudy to duke it out with Kelly? He knew he didn't have to go through that particular challenge...there were more important things to win down the road.

Roddy is just as smart. No reason to win this one. He can definitely win over Chiara if he IS put up...everyone just told him that 5-0!

Spygirl

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Rissa -- excellent post. The tub was just about the only fair competition possible. I agree.

Draheid

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
MUWAHAhahahahaha ... now he's claiming he would bet his TESTICLES that the producers had no idea about how this twist would play out...or something like that!! Roddy, talking about his conversation in the DR the other night! I WANT A LIVE FEED OF THIS!! :O

JMO - FWIW

Bbrules4ever

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
roddy still complaining about it being rigged.....still more FOTH!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stingerman

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Geez Roddy and Chiara are at it again!!!!!

Foth!!!!!

Man this week is going to be wine wine wine wine wine. " Maybe Amy will ask if they want some cheese with it"

Geezzz

Bbrules4ever

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i fear the whole week will be FOTH .....all because of Roddy's conspiracy theories about ASP/CBS "rigging" Amy's comeback.......

Nooooooo!!! i want my $$$ back.

Keiffer

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You know we are not sure of his actual complaint that he was making to the producers. We heard him talking about an endurance test and the fairness of it, but that might not be his actual complaint. We don't know what it is because every time he starts to talk about it we get FOTH before we actually hear anything. Just wondering what BB is hiding. This FOTH has nothing to do with already understood reasons for FOTH. He is not talking about a specific person that hasnt signed a release, and he is not singing a song.

Battlestar

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Endurance was the only HOH game they could have.

They couldn't have a skill game, when ever they do a skill game the HGs get to practice for a few days.

They couldn't have a HG knowledge test cause Amy hasn't been the house for 2 weeks.

Endurance was the only fair one--no strength needed, no brains needed, just determination....and Roddy flunked and now he's whining.

Draheid

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer It sounded like, from as much as we've heard, he doesn't believe the producers could possibly have predicted how this 'twist' would effect the game, in fact, he claimed he "bet his teticles that none of them had ever been in a situation like this for 42 days..." ... sounds like he's ticked about the returning HG mainly, and probably about the HoH competition fairness as well.

I know, this is mostly speculation based on the snippets we've been able to hear, but I think it's pretty accurate.

JMO - FWIW

Crazydog

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OK, here's a thought. Amy has said that "they" told her how important it was for her to win HoH. Obviously they in advance what the competition would be. I'm not saying they told her what it was, but what if they insinuated to her that it would probably be a good idea if she didn't eat or drink anything for a while, or that she should go to the bathroom right before she went to the foot of the steps. The houseguests had no advance idea it would be an endurance contest, and several of them got out early because they had to pee. It's true that we don't really know exactly what they told her, but that's the whole point. They should not have told her ANYTHING at all.

Spree17

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
roddy didnt even flunk. thats why his argument is null and void. He quit a minute in to the comp. He didnt even attempt to win. If he didnt jump out right away then maybe somebody could give him the benefit of the doubt but he threw the contest immediately. Also his excuse is bogus because if he thinks thats why Amy won he wouldnt have told Marcy last night he never thought Amy would win it. He is just a very spoiled person who thinks the squeeky wheel gets the oil. He is probably right. In life 9 time out of 10 when he whines or complains he probably does get his way. I'm really sick of roddy and chiara appointing themselves the "good people" of the house. I have yet to see it. In fact chiara is as bad as josh and roddy hasnt been straight with anyone. He has made deals with josh, eric, amy, marcy, lisa, kiki, jason and gerry. Oh wait last week he had a promise from danni. Basically roddy is loyal to all. How can that be?

Mystari

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What "endurance test"?

the whole thing only lasted 3 hours.

And they were sitting in a warm tub. Yes, the contents were nasty but is he complaining that he was too fatigued to sit down in slimey water for 2 whole minutes?

Battlestar

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
--several of them also peed in the tub

Bernie

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I dunno why he's crying and b*tching, because he snowed Amy and Marcellas but good yesterday. I think he's just snowing Chiara now. He has to keep her sweet for a while, and then if all goes well he'll be rid of her and can latch onto Amy, who at least has some ladylike ways.
Roddy is a chameleon, who takes on the hue of whoever he's talking to, and guides his speech towards that which his audience likes to hear.
I dunno if he's Svengali or Machiavelli reincarnated, but he would make a fortune as an actor!

Sanfranjoshfan

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think maybe Marce and Gerry got out early to pee...Marce being so germaphobic and Gerry worried that the house would attack him for nasty hygeine habits again. The rest of the HG all THREW the competition. THEY wanted Amy to win it.

Besides at the end, when Jason said he had to pee, both Amy and Lisa told him not to worry about it....that they understood. He said he didn't want to be known to America as the guy that peed in the tub. Lisa told him, "just stop talking about it and you won't be!"

Their need for having to go pee had absolutley nothing to do with Amy winning it....they handed that HOH to her.

Duchess

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tsk tsk tsk CBS/BB You didn't keep your word to Roddy. I sense an ugliness about to enSUE.

Keiffer

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I will say that Chiara was making a decent point before the FOTH. When she went for HoH last week maybe she wouldn't have tried to win so hard had she known at that time there was a person coming back. Maybe maybe not, but either way I do think that since each returning HG was coming back with a person that nomminated them still in the house that whoever was HoH for one week only should have been able to compete. For sure had Gerry been HoH and Eric had come back it would have been tough to not even have the chance to compete against the person that is going to want you out.

Stingerman

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm sorry crazydog but the "I got to go pee" thing was just a ploy for the rest that were there as soon as Roddy got out of that tub. If they really really wanted the HOH they would have just went pee in the tub and no one would have know the difference.

Roddy's lame excuses were pretty pethetic as well. I was tired, I knew I wouldn't outlast the rest of them. I mean come on as soon as he saw Amy walk in that house he should have know that she was a HUGE threat to him.

Sherbear

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The truth of the matter is Roddy was out at 1 min. Marcy said Gerry said If I get out will you? He said okay. Dani Lisa and Jason pointed and did eyes to make up the order they would get out. They wanted Amy to have it. Figuring they could count on Marcy to have her put up Roddy and Chiapet.

Get a life Roddy! I feel bad for Amy. Amy thinks she won it on her own and she was so proud of herself.

Battlestar

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy didn't want to win--cause he didn't want to have to nominate Amy a second time as promished in Revolving Door.

Gina8642

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
How can it possibly be unfair????

This is a GAME. BB gets to make the rules. All the HGs signed up for it, Roddy and Chiara among them!! They can do whatever they want. There is no 'unfair' here!!

I wish they wouldn't FOTH over when the b**** about the 'unfairness'. I think we can see alot of how they think during these sessions. Why keep it a secret?

Patman

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy didn't want to win because he knew Chiara was on the chopping block.

Draheid

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gina8642: I agree completely with you. And, furthermore, they signed their consent by signing the contract. And they continue to imply their consent by continuing to be in the game ... if it's sooooooooo unfair/illegal/improper then they should WALK now! And take it up with a lawyer ... that is, assuming they could get a lawyer to go up against the legal team at CBS/ASP!

JMO - FWIW

Demeter

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't see that Roddy or anyone else in that house has any solid grounds for lawsuits. The format is such that they do know in advance that they will not know what is going to be thrown at them. Any twist is an anticpated twist in that regard, they are just upset that this one does not seem to favor them, so it must be wrong (according to Roddy and Chiara).

Every person there has been privy to information that the others are not at various times, whether it is from BB, one another, or the outside world. It is how they interpret it and decide to use it that makes for their own experience of its impact.

Amy could just as easily complain that BB rigged it against her when the DR staff posed questions to Chiara in a way that led Chiara to pressure Roddy to nominate Amy and boot her out of the house.

The problem we are seeing is that 1) these two feel at risk right now and therefore are projecting their anxieties out onto others and BB, and 2) they make the mistake of strategizing based on what they know, rather than recognizing they know nothing really and they will have to be flexible and adjust to what is thrown at them.