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Molz

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 06:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ya all (pretending i have soutern accent so ya all won't know i'm from ny state)
to each is own..but i truly don;t think gerry is gay. just think he's being honest about admiring a gooooood looking man

Weinermr

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 06:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Spree17,

What I don't like (and yes, here I go again), are your pronouncements about how "men" think or act. You cannot speak for all men, you can only speak for yourself, or for people you know and observe, or for how you THINK a "typical" (whatever that is) man (there is no such thing) thinks or acts.

But PLEASE don't conclude that ALL men act or think a certain way, because they don't. You certainly don't speak for how I think and act.

Earthmother

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 06:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No the thought never crossed my mind. Can't a man give compliments without someone making judgements? Gerry knows that kids need compliments and he's in a house with kids, simple as that. Does everything in this world have to border on sexuality?

Sanfranjoshfan

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 06:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Spree - "Lady thats just not how guys are."

You mean the guys that you personally know, right? That IS apparently how *Gerry* is.

"It doesnt make you bi but If I ever tell another man he is really sexy you can be sure i switched teams. LOL"

You mean you cannot SEE that a man is sexy? Really? Or just that would never ADMIT it?

I guess I question whether all those str8 men that freak out at being asked if another man is sexy is seriously repulsed, or simply uncomfortable when asked to "rate" the attractiveness of another man?

I do realize that Gery was not asked by Marcellas if he was goodlooking...although I do know that I've heard Marce whining several times about the fact that no one complimented him on this or that. Maybe Gerry heard that, too and just complimented him (thinking he wanted or needed the flattery), having come from a social structure where that was not deemed inappropriate. Different social circles have different taboos.

Sanfranjoshfan

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 06:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Btw, it IS fair to discuss this, IMHO....

Azriel

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 06:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'll add my two cents and say I hate this thread. There is enough to discuss about what is really going on in the house without making wild unfounded statements about Gerry's sexuality.

Willow_Woman

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 06:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"It doesnt make you bi but If I ever tell another man he is really sexy you can be sure i switched teams."

Spree...I'm ROTFL!!

"A guy doesnt want to see another guys naked hairy butt"

Well, Spree, I'm with you there...kind of conjurs up a repulsive image in the ole mind. Gawd I'm glad I ate dinner *way* before I started reading this thread.

Seamonkey

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Danielle has also said that Gerry stares at her.

I honestly don't think you can make all inclusive statements that ALL guys never would say a certain thing.. just not true.

Could Gerry simply think Marcellas has a cute smile and that he must have been an adorable child? I heard him say it. and didn't hear a "leer" in there at all.

And some are being pretty US culture centric here.

In many cultures it is the MEN who are more demonstrative with each other.. holding hands or embracing/cheek or even mouth kissing as a greeting.

I remember eating in a Persian restaurant and it was a night when a local Iranian band was playing and so lots of tables were taken up by groups of friends. Universally when a couple would arrive, the men would go thru the greetings, physically, while the women wouldn't.

I haven't observed anything that would tell me anyone in the house is bi. Doesn't mean they are or aren't

The other day Lisa told Dani she had beautiful breasts, don't think it meant she was lusting after Dani. And I don't think Gerry is lusting after anyone in the house.

Spree, the subject isn't taboo at all. But you must realize that unfortunately to speculate about sexual orientation can negatively paint the person being discussed. It SHOULD NOT. But, it often does.. especailly with a teacher, among other professions.

No, I don't think Gerry's schoolboard will react to anything on this board. I don't think the thread should be shut down. I don't think anyone should have to hide sexual orientation . But I do think there is the chance that such speculation can do harm at times.

Abby7

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i have 'quickly' gone through this topic. i don't know where everyone lives on this board..i am slowly learning. i'm just wondering...does where you live have anything to do with your opinion on this subject? just wondering. i know everyone has different things to say...born here, but lived most of my life there, etc. etc. just wondering. what would make you think Gerry is bi or not (and for me why would anyone even ask...but that is another topic). is it from the people you have grown up with and what they said or what you have seen on movies or what?

i'm not sure, but i thought this thread was started because gerry has admired mar in so many ways and so many times. sorry, i forget who started it...but i would like to know whoever started the thread...where did you grow up and where do you live now? not an attack.

Willow_Woman

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
SanFran I think you've probably hit the nail on the head (to use a cliche):

"I've heard Marce whining several times about the fact that no one complimented him on this or that. Maybe Gerry heard that, too and just complimented him (thinking he wanted or needed the flattery), having come from a social structure where that was not deemed inappropriate."

Gerry has probably spent much of his life building up the self-esteem of his students...maybe it just comes naturally. He's giving M. what he thinks he needs to hear.

Earthmother

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Personally I don't like to look at guys hairy butts either..lol

Azriel

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That's how I feel, too, Seamonkey. What if Marcellas had chosen not to reveal that he was gay? What the heck does it have to do with anything in the game? To me it seems to be a subtle way to put someone down, to try and insinuate that they are hiding some dirty secret or something. ~sigh~

Abby7

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
first off can anyone tell me where "spree" is from..she/he started this thread. i would also be happy to read about she/he but i don't know how to open ones folder.

anyway, does it matter? do you think if someone thinks gerry is bi has anything to do with where they are from? and no...i'm not going to do the cliche internet thing and say "i'm now going to duck"...because i don't have to.

Molz

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
just a little sidebar..i LOVE richard gere..my husband teases me by saying he is gay...i'm like so what...i'm sure he won't be asking me to go to bed with him...i just like looking at him over and over and over again!!

btw he bought me and my friends ticket to meet richard and his family
it's just a joke with us....but if richard came my way..well ya never know
the whole point i'm desperately trying to makeis
....gerry is not gay...sorry for driving ya'all
crazy

Twiggyish

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Abby, maybe it isn't about where people are from physically, but maybe more to do with their personality. It's almost stereotyping to ask where we are from.

Abby7

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Azriel, could you explain your post of 7:10?"to me it seems to be a subtle way to put someone down, to try and insuate that they are hiding some dirty secret or something.

also, what do you think about all of the viewers of BB3 that mentioned Marc was gay before he even revealed it? how does that work in this house or in BB3 production. Did you think Mar was gay before he revealed it?

Spree17

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You are right i can only speak for myself. I have never been attracted to a man in my life. I never told one he was sexy nor have I ever lurked at one in the shower. I can also speak about the people I have known. Seems some people take offense anytime somebody has a different opinion. Thats too bad because I do not see anything wrong with us discussing this subject based on various comments made in the house. The funny thing about this is I'm pro gay rights but I said before the pc police are so uptight that the very mention that somebody might be bi sexual sent all their alarms off.

Sanfranjoshfan

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm from a little redneck town in West Texas full of farmers and bigots.

I got away.

I evolved.

I am now "out" and living in the gayest neighborhood in America, where it's the str8 couples holding hands that look out of place! Btw, 9 times out of 10, the male half of a str8 tourist couple is wearing a hat, sunglasses and hanging onto his girlfriend's or wife's hand for dear life! They seem to NOT want to be spotted by any guy that might accidentally smile at him. Us locals get a chuckle out of that....and it gives the str8 males a taste of what women deal with every time they pass a construction site at lunch time and having to put up with the remarks and wolf whistles! LOL

:-)

Back to topic though....believe it or not I have a gay friend that looks a LOT like Gerry and I swear....they even have the exact same VOICE! But...it ain't Gerry. :-)

Azriel

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Abby, the man is married. Why would anyone think he was bi because he hasn't said he was bi so why speculate? I just don't understand what it has to do with the game. It seems pointless to start a whole thread about it.

I knew Marc was gay because I had already read before the show started that he was gay. Would I have thought he was gay if I didn't know that he was? Yes.

Would I have started a thread on this board titled Am I the only one that thinks Marc is gay if he hadn't said anything? - NO.

Abby7

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Spree, WHAT are you talking about? Look up the defintion of a compliment. If a guy gives a compliment about another guy does that make him bi-sexual. of course you would say no.

just wondering about your background...where were you born, brought up and worked? do you think your opinion has anything to do with that. i'm not saying it does, just wondering.

Spree17

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
somebody on this thread said it was wrong to talk about because it gives negative implications to Gerry.
That is only if you believe there is something wrong with a guy being attracted to other guys. I'm str8 but have no problems with gay people. I dont think its a choice. I think people are born with theor sexuality so why should it be a "negative implication"

Molz

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
spree..agree with you.
am so gay rights..live and let live..we are all on this planet for reasons we cannot begin to comprehend..i'm for rights of all living things..that also includes animals, yeah so maybe i do have a bug phopia. but i don't kill them

Spree17

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Abby read my lips. Marcy said he doesnt know about Gerry. He said he doesnt feel right when he looks at him in the shower. If you want to paint me as a homophobe feel free to do so. It would be 100% false but if it makes you feel better about yourself then go for it.
I was born in Brooklyn NY. we are all homophobes there. I grew up on long island. we held anti gay rallys every friday in school.
I then moved to Texas as an adult where i'm taking courses in anti gay behavior.
Does that make you feel good?

In Real life my friend and ex business partner is gay, a great dad and has lived with the same guy for 7 years. he has joked on many occasions that so and so is gay. He must be a homophobe also.

Willow_Woman

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
SanFran...

"...and it gives the str8 males a taste of what women deal with every time they pass a construction site at lunch time and having to put up with the remarks and wolf whistles"


Oh,oh,oh! I love it! And not just construction sites SanFran...some women have to deal with at work, at the dry cleaner, etc. (I haven't experienced this personally, of course. The only whistle I've heard lately was from a traffic cop who was directing me around a fallen Taco Bell sign.)

Abby7

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Spree, what are you talking about. you implied a compliment form one guy to another means he is bi-sexual. later you implied someone else said that is a "negative implication"

just go back to your original post and take reponsibility for it. the negative implication is just a cover up (do you know chiara?)/.

my question to you was: why do you think if a guy gives compliments to another guy that means he could be gay.