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Eden

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
An all nighter schmoozing with Amy and there he is spooning with Chiara. This guy is a real piece of work.

C1mag

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Godd. It's funny because I never understood how someone couldn't notice how powerful of a player Roddy continues to be. It goes so far beyond any alliance. He is a master at the art of Mind F__king. Maybe thats why some didn't catch it. He had some of the viewers mind f__ked! The man doesn't need an alliance to win this thing.

Wendo

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Did he really crouch at the door????!!!! I was on the quad and the camera didn't shift fast enough. No way.

Yes, C1mag, you and I have been shouting from the rooftops about our dear, caring, loving, honest, and moral Roddy. I can't help but think, I told you so, as well. I hope I'm proved wrong, I really do. But, were she to have to vote upon waking, I would put my money on Chiara and Gerry.

Did you notice something else too? He never once dissed on Gerry. I think he wants to ride to the end with Gerry, betting that the jury would give him the $$$ over Gerry. He ran rimshod over Chiara and Jason though.

Wow, didn't realize she said that to Mar when getting in to bed.

Score Roddy, hook, line and sinker. He's reeling her in like a fish.

Jimmer

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have to admit that I have a disquieting admiration for Roddy’s performance. If you think of this as a performance in a game and not real life, he really is playing the game. The one thing I still can’t understand (even with all the theories) is why he let Josh go without trying to stop Chiara from nominating him.

Wendo

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag, totally agree. He doesn't need an alliance, all he needs is himself. He will win this thing if the others don't wise up.

Of course, they had their chance THIS week.

Fools.

The Art of Mind F*cking by Roddy Mancuso ©2002

Minnyace01

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok - I like Roddy and I've got my money on him and it's going down the toilet. He's trying to play Amy and I'm not sure that it is working. He's doing his damndest to stay in the house though. But did you notice that he came right back to bed with his girlfriend! Maybe he is a pretty good guy after all. Amy is going to put up Roddy and Chiara because that is what she agreed to in the tub, unless there is some kind of a deal between Roddy, Chiara, and Amy (and possibly Marcellas) to team up, and I can't see that happening. Look for Roddy out this week and Chiara out next week and then all of the "good" people can start playing the cut-throat game. You will see more fights then than you have seen up to this point in the game.

Duncan

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Someone some time ago described Roddy as 'smarmy'. I knew what the context of the word meant, but I didn't know the actual definition, so I looked it up. Here is what I found ( courtesy of Miriam-Webster OnLine):

Pronunciation: 'smär-mE
Function: adjective
Etymology: smarm to gush, slobber
Date: 1924
1 : revealing or marked by a smug, ingratiating, or false earnestness <a tone of smarmy self-satisfaction -- New Yorker>
2 : of low sleazy taste or quality <smarmy eroticism>
- smarm·i·ly /-m&-lE/ adverb
- smarm·i·ness /-mE-n&s/ noun


I think this word is PERFECT for Roddy....anyone else?

Wendo

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jimmer, oh, I agree, he's playing a perfect game so far. Really. It's dead on. If he can keep it up, it'll be a clean sweep, with he and Gerry at the end. He'll then point out to the jury, I never lied, I was always honorable. And, they'll fall for it because his manipulations have been SO subtle and hard to see.

My only problem with Roddy is that I believe he's toying with people's feelings and emotions. That can be dangerous and destructive to the play things.

He let Josh go because, frankly, he didn't need him. Period. As C1mag and I have said, over and over and over, Roddy doesn't need nor want anyone with him. He'll be happy to see Chiara go, because then he won't have to do the deed himself, and he'll secure her jury vote. Because, afterall, it was Amy who nominated her, not him. (Despite the fact he subtley trashed her tonight.)

I feel downright dirty after watching this performance tonight/this morning. Like I've been dripped in the dregs of the scummiest pond on earth...with Roddy yanking at my feet. I need a shower.

Wendo

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Duncan, to a tee...

Woodpecke®

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Mr. Smarmy was my description, and he deserves the moniker.

Deeya

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
FYI: I didn't see the Amy/Roddy conversation, but I did see the Marc/Roddy conversation ihn the hammock. After that conversation, Marc went directly to the HRD and talked to Dani about it... calling Roddy the devil incarnate and talking about how he had to go next. Marc's opinion was not changed by the conversation he had with Roddy.

Marc/Dani said first Roddy (need to break up the power of 2) and then Gerry and then Chiara... and they talked about making Amy understand that if she doesn't put up both Rod/Chi, one will save the other with POV and then she has wasted her opportunity.

I think that no matter how much Roddy schmoozes Amy, Marc/Dani are going to be able to convince her to nominate both Rod/Chi... they will use Chi's own words against her (she told Amy earlier in the evening how come she "had" to nominate Roddy to keep Josh from getting one vote).. and of course, Roddy's own words when he nominated Amy/Marc (Marc is a vote for Amy)...

So even if Amy gets them to promise to vote out Chi in this round, it still breaks up the power of 2.. and I don't think anything Roddy says is going to change that.

Jan

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am worried about Amy. As Marc said, she doesn't play the game. She fell for Josh and what he had to say , in spite of all the warnings from Marc. I really am afraid she will believe every word out of Rod's mouth. Let's not forget how self absorbed she is. She won't doubt that he is sincere. Chiara and Gerry will be nommed I think...I hope I am really wrong

Car54

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
For god's sake someone wake Lisa up and have her talk to Amy. She has first hand experience with the Rodmaster.

Blinky

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This is going to be an exciting week! I can see the "green Eyed" monster in Chiara popping up all over the place. LOL I think it will be funny as hell seeing Roddy try to juggle some kind of relationship with both girls...unsuccessfully. Chiara and her "rottin crotch" will get some kind of payback this week and I for one can't wait!
(insert Amy laugh here)

Hermione69

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 06:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am clinging to my hope that Amy is not THAT dumb... Remember last night-- Roddy was sucking up to Marcellous because he knows Marc is Amy's big bud and many of us thought, "Oh no, he's got Marcellous!" but then Marcie saw right through it. I'm reserving judgement until Amy gets up and talks it over with someone. Everyone else was asleep when she and Roddy finally went to bed so we have no way of knowing what she was really thinking.

Hotty_Toddy

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 06:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think what makes Roddy so charismatic and so dangerous is that he really looks for things he has in common with people and genuinely feels that empathy with them at that time. Yes, a lot of his talk was just an act scripted in his head (the Rembrandt thing--gag), but I think part of him just wanted to leap onto that sofa and jump Amy, smother her with kisses and say, "You don't know what I've been through, that woman is driving me crazy!" Amy seemed totally immune to all his lavish compliments on her looks and personality and just accepted then politely. I was wondering, does she not find him attractive at all now? Or is she just missing all these signals he's sending her? She really does seem to be a different person and when he talked about the old Amy it didn't offend her at all because that's just not her anymore. She was amazingly cool about it. So he may have talked himself out of a nomination, but I still think Kiki is a goner. Now Rod's worked his charm again on me too and I just want to see what will happen with Amy and Rod if Kiki is gone!

Twinkle

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 06:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Darn it, I'm sorry I missed the silver tongued devil's unctous* talk with Amy, although I saw his barf-inducing attempt to charm Marc.
Last night I sat here transfixed by the live feeds until somehow five hours had passed, it was 2 AM EDT and I had to go to bed. Am I correct in assuming Amy will have to do her nominations tonight? If so, forget all the stuff I have to do today. The live feeds will be very interesting, indeed. (I just saw the "Nominations" thread saying that the noms will be tomorrow. Still, the live feeds will be highly watchable.)

*Hehe. In the same vein as smarmy, we have unctuous, a school spelling word I've never used until now.
Unctuous: full of praise, interest, friendliness, etc. that is unpleasant because it is false

Hermione69

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 06:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I wonder about this-- "She really does seem to be a different person and when he talked about the old Amy it didn't offend her at all because that's just not her anymore."

A- Then she is a better person (or better actor) than me because while he was taking credit for her "change" I found myself thinking that if I were her, my tongue would be bleeding from my biting it!

and

B- I am very skeptical of people changing THAT quickly. Epiphanies are pretty rare. Most change requires a lot of time and hard work (therapy!). So I don't know that her agreeing with Roddy means anything. Besides, isn't Amy pretty nonconfrontational? Even when Tonya was going off on her, she stayed cool, didn't she? She wouldn't call Roddy on anything to his face. I still want to wait until she gets up and talks about it with someone because I really don't know which way the wind is blowing with her. All this speculation is fascinating, though!

Car54

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 06:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Where are those BB Angels? We need them to get their megaphones out and go yell at Amy!

Corriecat

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 06:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I've been thinking the same thing that Jan is - Amy doesn't play the game. I have a gut feeling that we are not going to get the nominations we hope for, mainly Roddy and Chiara. I have a feeling Gerry will be up against someone else and he will be the one to go. But I hope I'm wrong.

Romans8_1

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 07:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy took George's (from Seinfeld) advice on how to lie

"If you believe it, it's not a lie."

Wiseolowl

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 07:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Even if it's Gerry vs Chiara think tho odds are with Chiara going. Dani for sure will vote Chiara , Lisa most likely , Jason most likely if he wants to stay in with Dani-he went against her last week -she gave him a free pass then but she will apply the pressure this week. There'e a 50-50 chance Roddy will vote against her to protect himself and if he wants to keep Gerry in and it at least better than even odds Marc can be pursuaded if he thinks Gerry's in only one more week.

Ginger1218

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 09:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy is making it like he is the second coming -- that he not only nominated Amy to leave - but made sure it was anonymous - BUT ,,, that he did it for her own good -- to make her grow up and see the error of her ways. OMG he is soooo incredibly arrogant. I hope she sees through this. I hope she puts him up and they all vote him off unanimously.

Marcellasfan

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 09:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ginger, you are so right. I almost gagged when Amy said she's grown 4 years in 4 weeks and Roddy took credit for it!! The man has got a messiah complex. He's horrible.

Spree17

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 09:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
R, we're officially halfway through. I'm glad to have you back.

roddy told her he is glad she is back after he not only pushed her thru the door but ripped her heart out doing it by insisting the vote be 7-0.