Showing Houseguests on toilet crying on TV
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Watching2

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 02:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Does it bother anyone else they have shown both Lisa and Josh crying while sitting on the toilet? That means they can always see them in the one place which is supposed to be private? How do they know they're crying in there and not taking care of bodily functions and even if they are crying, how do they know they're decent if they're not watching them all the time? I find that going way too far on the "big brother" theme. I'm disgusted CBS is doing this.

Wcv63

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 02:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I would have a WC beachtowel that would be brought in as a drape with me every time I walked in there. I think Cassandra did something like that.

Crazydog

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 02:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, it's well known (to viewers at least) that there is a camera in the toilet area, it was explained in either BB1 or 2 that this would never be aired unless the houseguests were using it as a meeting place. I have no doubt that the BB people have seen each of the houseguests in all of their toilet glory.

Part of the theme of Big Brother is that the houseguests don't have any privacy. If they were uncomfortable knowing that someone is watching them use the bathroom or shower then they are on the wrong show.

Gina8642

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 02:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think this is one of the many reasons I wouldn't want to be on this show. They are watching everything. Just because they choose not to show it doesn't mean they arn't watching it. Then there are still several technicians reviewing it. Icky, icky, icky!!!

Auntkk

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 02:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The implications of this are astounding. I don't know about you, but I would be concerned that a picture of me in a less than flattering position would end up all over the internet. It would be so easy for an insider cameraman to be paid off to sell some stills for quick cash to a shady person.

Crazydog

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 02:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
True, but it has never happened, and there is probably some huge penalty clause in the employment contracts of all the BB people. FYI, there is also a fixed camera above the shower. We saw shots of this last year when Krista bathed Ophelia.

I have to say I'm a little surprised people didn't know about these cameras, I thought it was common knowledge.

Kitt

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 02:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The other cameras show when people enter the toilet, so I'd hope (naively perhaps ) that the toilet cam is actually usually turned off, unless they know someone has gone in there to clean/cry or has gone in there with someone else. I can't imagine it's pleasant for the camera controllers to have it on, even if they try not to look at it!

The houseguests must know it's there, if nothing else the fact that there's a camera sticking out of the wall, pointing at them, should give it a way. Plus like Crazydog says, it must have been explained to them how it will be used.

Corriecat

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 02:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I remember discussing this in BB1. It was stated by BB that the camera's in the toilet and shower area would not be used when the houseguests were using them. However if they went in the shower or toilet area to talk in private, blast off to outer space or clean the toilet with someone's toothbrush etc. the cameras would be used.

This is not about BB but this conversation reminded me of it. Have you noticed that after Real World Boston when Jason and Timber took advantage of the privacy and no cameras in the bathroom they have changed the houses? Starting with Seatle the bathrooms are now big open rooms with multiple sinks and mirrors and cameras everywhere - even in the shower for Chicago. The BB bathroom is open and even has that seating area it just doesn't have as many fixtures as those on RW.

Crazydog

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 03:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
But Corriecat, I thought it was stated that the footage from these cameras would not be aired unless they used the areas to talk. When Lisa and Josh went into the toilet, if the cameras were not on, how would BB know if they were actually using the toilet or just crying? I believe the cameras are on all the time, it's just that we the viewers will never see actual toilet usage. I think BB sees it all the time.

Tootseug

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 03:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
no

Reader234

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 03:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ITs my understanding (from reading posts in previous bb) that there is a stationary camera in the shower and the toilet area (from press tour footage before the start of bb1 )

I do believe that it is understood they wont "air" the footage, however cameras are running 24/7 hence the name big brother is watching you! Also wasnt there quite a discussion with Brittany when she discovered this? They also got the "tour" after eviction, and thats when we learned which hg were "wadders" and which were "folders"!

So imho I think the hg "know" the cameras are "on" but I am also apalled (upset, disappointed etc/whatever!) that they would air this "private" moment. I dont recall any other footage from previous bb, and I have to believe that other bb's also used the privacy of the toilet area to cry!!

Cameltoes

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 03:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hadn't thought about that 'til now Corriecat. RW has definitely given them less privacy in that regard but I guess it make sense. They also now have the BB-esque night vision cams. Used to be that the cameras just left the room during intimate moments.

I agree the cameras are likely on the bathroom all the time. I do remember from BB1 something about cameramen supposedly turning their back for certain footage. Jordan said something about trying to "tease" them by touching herself for instance but they claimed to have turned their backs on that stuff.

Smrtass

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 03:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
When Josh was sitting on the toilet and crying, I was pretty sure he was sitting there fully clothed, sitting on a closed toilet seat. I didn't have a problem with that.

Amac

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 03:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Why were Lisa and Josh crying in the first place?

Gritss

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 03:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm surprised anybody is surprised that they air footage of a HG sitting on the toilet with the seat closed.

After all, the whole premise of the show is "no privacy". Since they aren't doing 'bodily functions', what's the problem?

They do a haphazard attempt to not show gratitous nudity. The camera often pans up when the girls change clothes. They did slip up and show Roddy once. And the peanut butter nude shots were the girls own fault. They were flaunting it.

Angelsluv

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 03:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well we all know that there is a camera set to view downwards. Gerry mentioned aftew nights ago (don't remember the exact convo) that there is another camera but the way it's set up, it's at face level...

Aerojunki

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 03:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
my picture

Dux2k

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 03:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa was not sitting on the toilet actually she was standing against the wall crying (at least the part I saw) and Josh was sitting down completely clothed...........................................BUT what about the time Josh did his mess and left if for Chiara to see or most recently when Chiara told Lisa and Dani to come see her foot long dodo. I'm sure the cameraman got a gross eyefull then. Serves them right huh?

Furry

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 03:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Aerojunki- That is hilarious! LOL!

Okay, I may be naive, or this may be too much for this board, but many of these HGs are in relationships and, I'm sure, longing for their partner. Ahem...How do they take care of more "personal" business without the camera men/women watching? Unless they are in the shower, which has a semi-see-through door, there seem to be cameras everywhere? In bed? Look at all of the detail we've seen of Lisa and Eric, and that's just what they've shown us. Who knows what they are seeing when the FOTH camera is on?!

Crazydog

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 04:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Didn't people say Josh satisfies himself behind the green chairs in the bathroom, or was that a joke? I distinctly recall reading recaps of the HGs saying Bunky masturbated in the blue bedroom and reading about Hardy doing it late at night in bed.

Watching2

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 10:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I didn't have a problem SEEING them with clothes on - I do remember the infamous toothbrush incident last year and showing cleaning, but if someone just goes in there and sits down, I don't know, it's gross to think there are men watching women taking care of private matters and vice-versa. If the door's open - fine.. or they see them heading in w/a toothbrush or cleaning supplies, but to keep it on when they do their "thing" - yuck!

On Real World Chicago, they didn't show anyone behind the toilet stall doors, only when they opened it, as far as I recall. I think I saw all of the shows. :)

It didn't really occur to me last season when watching the cleaning and cleaning w/the toothbrush(!) segments, they were being watched at all other times as well. Yes, I guess I was being a bit clueless, but you'd hope the two places they could have privacy and get naked or whatever would be the shower & toilet. Oh well.. I still think it's gross, no matter if they know about it or not.

Melgal

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 10:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Corriecat - "blast off to outer space" - I totally forgot about that. LOL!!!

Whit4you

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 10:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"Breaking the seal" - who was the first to do that in a BB house..I don't remember... I do remember all the hilarious convo's about Josh...and him NOT 'breaking the seal' LOL.

FYI in the OZ BB the shower had no door - was like the high school locker room with 4 or so shower heads... a few showered in their bra/panties... one guy (Peter) always showered fully dressed um gawd knows why lol. The others showered in the buff..for all the net and the TV audience to see. People are way more uptight about nudity in the US then they are in most other cultures.

Wcv63

Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 10:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
But Whit there's a difference between nudity and "using the facilities." Imagine a woman having to take care of feminine hygiene issues around that time?

Cinder

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 02:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Supposedly Eddie "broke the seal." Also one time Cutis walked in on Britt taking care of feminie hygiene issues.

Corriecat

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 02:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I did not hear anthing about Josh and the green chairs but can you just picture him pacing around anxiously waiting for Dani and Jason to finally stop playing cards so he could use the chairs!