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Archive through August 17, 2002
Crazydog | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 07:55 am     But you don't know if that interview was made before or after the ten minute call during which her mother blabbed that she liked Dani. |
Wcv63 | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 08:01 am     Crazydog...it was before. Amy said that the interview is done as part of the whole "exit process" from the show. |
Niceguy | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 09:32 am     I think her 'mother' is a hoax. I think that it is her handlers advice. That is, "if you make it to the finals help Danielle get there." If it those two at the finals Amy will cream Dani, those DR tapes will make a lot of people angry. The other thing about her meeting some little girl and being warned about Gerry is handler advice as well, I believe. Amy makes great reality TV. She's moving up there with the Sue Hawk's and the Mike Schuptin's(?). She likely won't win anything but she's just one of those people that we're are going to be interested in and that takes precedence over any set of rules in this type of game. Sean Rector & Bunky have a little bit of this as well. As far as the producers were concerned it was getting too male heavy in the house. They really needed to bring one of the women back in. Tough noogies for Roddy and Chiara. I don't think Roddy's father is going to be interested in going after CBS about this. He'll just ascribe it to being one of Roddy's follies. |
Goddess146 | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:21 pm     Roddy and Chiara are getting more and more upset about the the producers messing with the game. Chiara is going sue. |
Biggusbrotherus | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:28 pm     Goddess: Chiara actually used the word 'sue'? Wow. |
Maris | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:29 pm     Do they really think the producers didnt get their best contract lawers in to review the contracts. Is the assumption that they decided on this twist after they wrote the contracts? Roddys view of his own intellect is getting in the way here. I am willing to bet the CBS lawyers have it all covered. |
Battlestar | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:30 pm     ---the producers just need to ask if they would have the same opinion if it had been Eric back in the house.....they seemed REALLY REALLY happy to vote for the returning guest because they thought it would be Eric coming in the door |
Goddess146 | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:35 pm     You can not sign away your rights to sue for fraud. This is true of Chiara. This is true of those of us that are going after CBS/ASP for the live feed advertising fraud. |
Battlestar | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:36 pm     ---there is no fraud |
Bigsister | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:41 pm     Battlestar, you have a good point. If Roddy really had objections to the PRINCIPLE of bringing an evicted HG back, he should have gone to the DR immediately and made his complaint, as soon as he heard it was going to happen. Instead, after his initial surprise, he accepted the notion like everybody else and willingly participated in the process of selecting which HG would come back. It was only after that choice did not go his way that he began to declare the whole thing was unfair. That looks too much like sour grapes. |
Strkaholic | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:43 pm     Bigsister, do you know for a fact that Roddy did not go and object to the twist after he found out or are you just speculating? |
Goddess146 | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:43 pm     fraud Pronunciation Key (frôd) n. 1.A deception deliberately practiced in order to secure unfair or unlawful gain. 2.A piece of trickery; a trick. 3.a.One that defrauds; a cheat. 3.b.One who assumes a false pose; an impostor. |
Sherbear | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:46 pm     Last night during the feeds. Amy came out and said to Lisa and not sure who else. I need to clarify something. No one told me about the revolving door, I figured that out. Then it cut to feeds. So she is going back and clearing things up. As for them knowing Amy was going in, how could they not. They watch the house and heard who would be voting for Amy. They knew it was gonna be a vote. They knew it was between her and Eric after she after she signed the contracts regarding the money and pb&j. So did they slint it I don't think so. But did they figure it out, yeah! |
Crazydog | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 01:55 pm     Sorry Sherbear, but I don't think Amy is that smart. I think she was chastised in the DR for saying anything about them telling her about ORD and that she was told to fix it. I just don't see Amy all of a sudden going to someone on her own to clarify things. Amy has loose lips. They should have known that and the fact that they said anything to her and she repeated it is their own mess. |
Maris | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 02:03 pm     Do people really think that CBS came up with this idea of the evicted houseguest coming back on the fly? Didnt Shapiro say months ago this game would have twists and turns? Werent the houseguests told that there would be twists and turns. Expect the unexpected. So it should have been, expect the unexpected but we have to make sure you like it? Do you really think that the CBS lawyers wrote contracts without these scenarios in mind? These people have covered all their bases and as much as Roddy pontificates and Chiara says "yeah, what you said" , it isnt going to make a bit of difference. |
Strkaholic | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 02:08 pm     Maris..the law is unfortunately all about interpretation and any good lawyer will tell you that there is no such thing as 100% air tight. I have said this before, I don't really think the HG's is CBS major concern. They are governed by higher authorities. That is why I believe they keep going to FOTH, although I don't think that will help them if the are investigated by said higher authorities. |
Crazydog | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 02:12 pm     Maris, the problem I have is not with the houseguest returning. I thought that was a great idea. The problem I have is that Amy has been tainted. What ever happened to "sequestration with no contact with the outside world"? Who knows what else those little girls or the Americans in Club Med told her? Maybe they told her that Dani and Jason have a secret alliance. In addition, we know that Amy was talked to by the producers at least about Operation Revolving Door and the need to win the HoH. Who knows what else they told her? Maybe they gave her advice on what to do... like, last time you drank too much and got too emotional, this time you need to concentrate on strategy and find people to ally with and lie to them more. That's unfair because none of the others have had the opportunity to obtain impartial (or partial, as it may be) advice about how their actions are being perceived or how to play the game. The bottom line is, we don't know what kind of advice/contact/information she got. None of the others got any, and that's the part that to me is unfair. |
Spree17 | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 02:14 pm     I doubt cbs a billion dollar company with millions of dollars worth of legal advice is scared one bit of chiara or roddy. roddy being a screenwriter better watch what he says or he will be blackballed from his entertainment field forever. |
Maris | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 02:19 pm     Good point Spree!!!!!!!!!!! And Chiara's brother might want her to shut up as well. |
Draheid | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 02:19 pm     Correct me if I'm wrong, but did Amy indicate that she had learned ANYTHING about what was GOING ON IN THE HOUSE while she was out? It seems from what I've read, heard, and seen, all she learned from the little contact she had, was how well the show is going, and even that was from a couple of children ... what advantage does that give her in the house? I reiterate my thought that anyone with the chance to go back into the house, especially after being evicted unanimously, would have a lot of serious questions about how they might survive more than a 'New York Second' upon return. I expect that Amy had lots of questions and the producers and handlers probably only gave her 'suggestions' in the form of answers to her questions. I doubt they actually said, "Amy, when you get in there you MUST win HoH" or any other such direct instructions. She may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but she does know who has the stones! (sorry, bad attempt at a euphamism/pun) JMO - FWIW The preceding is a message from the author exclusively and does not reflect the oppinions of the staff, moderators, or other members of this board. All materials copyright © 2002, all rights reserved. Void where prohibited. Not available in all states. Taxes and dealer preperation not included. Batteries not included. See someone else for details. And smile when you finish reading this please! |
Wcv63 | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 02:22 pm     Crazydog: "The bottom line is, we don't know what kind of advice/contact/information she got. None of the others got any, and that's the part that to me is unfair." What do you think they do in the DR when they ask leading questions? They have all said that the DR has "leaked" supposedly confidential information from DR confessions. The DR and ASP manipulate the show continually. Outside influences? That's what all the DR interviewers are. I'm sorry. I just don't get this outcry of "unfair." |
Keiffer | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 02:29 pm     There is a difference between a faceless person asking you leading questions like "Can you trust so and so...", and HG's mother telling one of them that they like a paticular person. There is a big difference from being aproached while on a beach and being told to watch out for Gerry. It is unclear to me if she had actually heard the term revolving door before she got back in, but it does seem clear that it was stressed to her the importance of winning HoH. Do you think Roddy might have stayed in the tub had he been told by Arnold or some other producer that it was very important for him to stay in the tub? Don't you think he would have aproached that game different had he been given a hint like that? |
Sassylady | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 02:49 pm     I am convinced the producers/staff who ever they talk to in DR has given others advice as well. Gerry said, according to what I read on the LFs something about when he had Eric and Lisa up..that they (BB) didn't want it turned into an all male show. One thing I did find interesting--to me anyway :-)Was when Amy made a statement that she thought they, again BB, would have kept Tonya around longer for the ratings. I know we as viewers make statements like that but I just found it intersting that a particapting HG, who knows if BB can have any say in who stays or leaves, would make that statement. Long story short, I think BB always leads them by their questions in the DR. Again, all for entertainment and I am being entertained. Jeesh, I don't know what I did with all my time prior to BB--I need a life. Plus I just read that a Survivor contestant is from my little town here in Slidell, La. That should keep me here for that show... |
Strkaholic | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 02:49 pm     Keiffer, you are once again 100% on the mark. |
Bigsister | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 02:51 pm     Strkaholic, I was speculating that Roddy did not go to the DR and complain as soon as he learned of the twist. But it was speculation based on Roddy's behavior and interactions with the other HGs. If he sincerely thought it was unfair, he would have discussed his feelings with the other HGs, asked their opinions, etc. as well as complaining to the DR. |
Sassylady | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 03:00 pm     Keiffer, I believe that she talked to her Mom and her Mom said something good about Dani because of how she is treating Dani--I think she was kidding about the Gerry comment. If that was true she would be getting rid of Gerry--Knowing she would have Marc's support and Rod's support (Rod support in order to keep him off the block. Didn't Tonya's boyfriend say in an interview the calls were very brief and restricted? Maybe her Mom talked in code. |
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