I don't think I can root for Danielle after this...
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Wendo | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 11:34 pm     Firstly, anyone lying, in the real world, is obviously troublesome. However, this game has been set up with the premise that lying, deceit, dishonesty, and deception are acceptable. I'm sure Dani would like to avoid lying, I doubt it's something she likes doing or even wants to do. However, in this game, and with the above parameters, she's using the tools she has to advance her position in the game. Secondly, I disagree that Danielle is using Amy emotionally. How is Amy going to be affected emotionally because Dani, playing the game, chose to lie to her? If anything, Roddy is the one player in their that likely has and will affect certain HG's emotionally. Take Chiara for instance. Despite what your personal opinion of her, imagine having to hear what that man has said about her, especially the last couple of days. (Forced into the relationship; not that serious, etc.) Add on top of that that he says these things, such as he did last night with Marcellas, and he then crawls back into bed with her, spooning and kissing her. You don't think that will affect Chiara emotionally? Finally, Wcv63 said: "One thing people have to remember is that the HOH's power stops at the nominations. The HOH doesn't get to decide WHO is evicted. That is up to the other hgs to decide. The HOH can't say "this is the target and this is the decoy, so vote for the target or else". It just doesn't work that way." Exactly. Yes, the HOH puts people up for eviction, but in the end it's the HG's who decide who gets to stay or not. Amy, I'm sure, is well aware of this. She also said to Marcellas in the HOH after noms, "Well, even if I hadn't come back and one of you all had gotten HOH, he would've been up anyway." I think Amy, in the back of her mind, knows that Roddy could go. I'm sure she'll be upset initially, but I do believe she'll be fine with it in the end. Of course, you never know, right? That's why we continue to watch. BB is like a bad movie on tv, you know you should turn it off, but you just can't turn away. LOL! |
Wendo | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 11:37 pm     Lilacs04 said: "She (Amy) wanted Chiara out period but the main advantage was having HotRod all to herself. Personally, I would've liked to see that. She knew his time was limited anyway." I wouldn't wish this on my plants. |
Meggieprice | Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 11:40 pm     Wendo- what you said! Wcv- I've had a flare up of sciatica- gnarly nerve pain in my leg that has me completely bed ridden and in pain that rivals childbirth- and in the middle of our busiest season photographiong weddings. Missed one today- and shed some tears. Then comforted myself with the longest time on these boards I have ever spent in all three seasons... my husband called from the wedding and teased me about it! |
Jan | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 04:18 am     Dani Lisa and Jason have promised not to reveal their true vote until AFTER POV. I think they will take the days between POV and the vote to convince Amy and Marc that Roddy must go NOW. After POV there is nothing A and M can do if Dani cannot convince them but at least it gives them a window of opportunity to try and bring them onside. Dani seemed to imply to Lisa that she can bring them around didn't she? (at least didn't she tell her not to worry about it??) |
Gina8642 | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 05:03 am     I don't think Dani will mind if Chiara goes. She wants her vote to be for Roddy. She knows already they she has a better chance of getting Chiara's vote at the end. So, she needs to cement Chiara's loyalty by backing her now. Personally, I don't care who goes this week. It's an 'either or' kind of deal. |
Piratesbay | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:24 am     You know, it seems to me that the real WILD CARD is Lisa right now, and not Marcellus. Lisa seems to know Dani is powerful, but she's playin' her. She is taking gathered intel to Marci and Amy now that those two are together. I believe Lisa feels she has a much better chance of staying in the game, and being treated fairly with Marci and Amy than with Dani and whoever else she manipulates. Lisa doesn't like Dani's ruthless, lying-to-the-face, kiss-of-death behavior. It smacks too much of Roddy, and she now knows what's behind the Rodmaster exterior. |
Alaginger | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:35 am     If the Veto winds up to where both Roddy and Chiara are still on the block, I hope Danielle will find a way prior to the evictions (but not too soon to change anything) to let Amy know it is Roddy that is going. Just so Amy doesn't have to be embarrassed on live television and can feel part of the plan. I'm sure they will promise her to get rid of Chiara at the next opened opportunity. |
Reiki | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:12 am     Someone could remind Amy that when Marcellas was HOH he nominated Josh and Tonya with the desire that Josh be the one who was evicted. Amy changed her vote and was partially responsible for Josh remaining in the game. That's why, as Dani has said many times, when you make nominations make sure it is for 2 people you would want to see out of the house, because you never know how the vote will go. |
Sassylady | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:25 am     Good point Reiki! |
Jan | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:28 am     alaginger that might be her plan as she and Jason and Lisa have promised to keep their true plans to evict Roddy a secret till after POV...implying that she may do some damage control before the actual vote. |
Keiffer | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:30 am     I just love the apologies being handied out for Danny for pulling a Josh here. For sure Roddy has never doen anything the backstabbing to a single person in that house, especially one that is so loved on this board. I just can not imagine the posts if it was Roddy behaving in this manner. I am sure Danny will talk to Marcy after the PoV and use him to soften the blow to Amy before the Thursday show, but AMy regardless will be upset at being lied to. Of course with her mom telling her she likes Danny I am sure that Danny will get the bennifit of the doubt from Amy. I will say this though. If Chiara just happens to get HoH next week (and they better hope it isnt and endurance thing) and she puts up Amy and Marcy, Danny for sure has lost Roddy, Tonya, Marcy, and Amy votes if she gets to the end. At that point she will be playing for second place. |
Stingerman | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:34 am     Danni wants Roddy to go and she wants Chaira on her side as well. She has also stated to lisa that "Marcellus has to go". I think she will try to sugar coat Roddy going to A&M and then you can bet that Amy will be the first one nominated and then Marci right after her. I bet this is the plan that Danni has in the back of her mind. The only thing that "MIGHT" save them is Gerry if he gets HOH next week. You just have to hope that Danni doen't get to him before Marci does or both A&M are gonners. |
Sassylady | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:48 am     Keiffer: I think that will be fine with Danni. Whereas, Roddy wants to win, not for the money, but to proove to himself that he can do it. His reward is the win not the money. I appreciate your position that if one does a sneaky play it is okay but if another does it we think it is horrible...My position and others as well is that Roddy is just plain creepy with his mind control. Honestly, I think if I were in the game, I would see Roddy's game but I would be seduced by his charms and for me that is what is scary 'cuz I "ain't" no dumb bunny but this guy is gooood at what he does. He is a great player but not that great 'cuz he just might be going home. Then again, we thought that last week.... Oh I just love this board but the more I love it the more I realize I need a life! LOL |
Eden | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:58 am     I'd love to actually see Roddy PLAY the game. He doesn't have a plan he manipulates feelings with conversation but he has no end game! Actually, I think Roddy will admire Danielle for how she has so completely outplayed him from almost the first moment in the house. How she built her own covert support system and didn't rely on an allegiance made with complete strangers to sustain her through the game. Roddy made some huge tactical errors early on and he's be scrambling ever since. Let the serious players play out the game and the poseurs, Roddy and Chiara, go home and pout. Roddy this week... Chiara next week. Then we'll get to the real game!! |
Csnog | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 09:27 am     Either one can go as far as I'm concerned. Dani has played the game extremely well. Except! For her Devil and Saten comments and the nasty comments about Gerry AFTER she gave him the go ahead to wash his outside shorts in the sink. She refuses to speak to people to their face about their habits, but has other people do it for her. Roddy has also played well but lost sight of what he considered the lesser people in the house. When he couldn't get Dani under his spell he should have known something was going on. Lisa has come back to reality since Eric left. I would vote for her to win the money if she is amoung the last 2. Jason has been along for the ride. Nothing else. If Marcie can't shut up about Gerry and stay in the here and now he will also be history. He now has proven Josh correct as the most negative person in the house. Gerry is also along for the ride. No one wants him on their side and for that they are foolish because he used the veto when no one else has dared to since. He also was the first to break up a couple. Chiara needs to visit shrink. She is just as offensive as Josh was but in a different way. Amy is not up to playing the game. She does however bring laughter back to the house which had been missing for 2 weeks. My vote is for Lisa to be in the final 2 as of today. |
Sheila494 | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 09:30 am     ive know from the begnning that danielle was the biggest snake in that house..i hate the way she has played everybody to try to get ahead..even if it is part of the game..something about the way she has played this game that seems very evil to me. |
Rod | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 09:31 am     I'm with you Csnog. Why not join our club: ../10972/1045925.html?1029636793 |
Seamonkey | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 09:51 am     Dani is likely to lose both Marcellas AND Amy at the very end, if she's one of the final two. I think they have both stated they want her to win. Dani has strung Marcellas along for a long time that he's in her group of three with Jason.. now she is saying she has no alliance with Marcellas and that she wants Lisa (bet she thinks Marcellas just might beat her in the end whereas she is guiding Lisa to eventually lose most of her former alliance support. And Dani shouldn't have told Amy that she, Lisa and Jason would vote Chiara out.. Amy specifically asked. So she really IS lying and no, I don't see any difference between Dani's sanctimonious lies and anyone else's lies. And now she's planting seeds that she doesn't see Marcellas as worthy of being at the end because he's emotional (one of the reasons I like him better than Dani) and because of however he was the first week.. ancient history IMO. I'm hoping now that Roddy does get vetoed out and since Amy promised to Gerry that she wouldn't put him up.. maybe she'll just put Dani up and let the two she-wolves fight it out (Chi and Dani).. Dani just might be surprised at the outcome. Oh well.. time will tell. |
Niceguy | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 10:38 am     She-wolves, I like that analogy alot. hehehhehhehehheheh. Oh man. |
Robinyyes | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 11:00 am     I think its really amusing how some on this board go wacko over the manipulations of Roddy, the lies of Josh, and the whining of Mar...and yet....Dani does all three!!!!!!!!! I would like to see Lisa's little light bulb go on to this and change her vote to chiaPITS just so i can see Dani's eyes bug out! :robin puts on flame retardart outfit now: |
Robinyyes | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 11:02 am     um...thats supposed to be flame retardant...geez |
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