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TV ClubHouse: Archives: Chiara's sour grapes: Archive through August 18, 2002

Snee

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 10:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hey, where's keiffer?

Spree17

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 10:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
10-1 that conversation never even happened and she just made it up to hurl another trashy comment. I grew up in NY. Nobody is like kiki there. Nobody

Azriel

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 10:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Scroll back, Snee. He was here earlier. I think he was too disgusted with all of us to stick around.

Snee

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 11:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
dang, we chased him off AGAIN!

Lilacs04

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 11:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Spree -- I agree. As a native NYC-er, we are NOT like Chiara. She gives Italian NYC girls a bad name!

Moedog

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 11:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My apologies to all eastcoasters! My condolences that you have to contend with Chiara, but please, keep her there. Thanks.

Maris

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 11:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Excuse me but Chiara isn't here, She is in the west coast and we have no intention of taking her back. We have enough to contend with since hurricane season is almost here, One noreaster is enough for us this season thank you. Keep that little tsunami on the west coast. Thanks.

Wcv63

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 11:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ROTFLMAO Maris!! No one wants to claim the poor thing!

Spree17

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 11:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As a former nyer I do feel bad for my old home state. First 9-11, then the mets, now chiara. This is not Ny's year.

p.s I was just joking. I'm very patriotic and didnt mean to trivialize 9-11.

Sanfranjoshfan

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 11:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey WAITAMINUTE! We already have earthquakes and sharks and Anna Nicole Smith....besides, we just don't want her! She's going back east after this is over if I have to put her in a crate and ship her there myself!

:-)

Moedog

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 11:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You HAVE to take her back! It's not fair! We didn't know Chiara was going to be so close to us. Boohoohoo! It's just not fair! We ought to sue! We're good people and we just wanted to do what was right for the West! Boohoohoo. It's not fair! It's not fair! It's not fair!

Wcv63

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 11:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just don't send her down South...We're a mighty friendly bunch but we have a lot of swamps and whatnot that are really easy to get lost in...I'm just saying.

Moedog

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 11:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ROFLMAO!

Wendo

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 11:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
To preface, Chiara is not, by far, a fav of mine.

But, whoever pointed it out, Marcellas and Amy didn't handle their eviction together very well the first day either. If you'll recall, they were quite surly, threatened to leave together before the eviction, and snapped at Roddy on two separate occassions.

So, no one on the block as been the model of perfection this year. No one.

I do agree though, she needs to get over the "it's not fair" crap.

Dfwteddy

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 11:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
From the Live Feed Posts:

"My brother didn't want me to go on this show because it's a trashy show. The girls are white trash and gross. I said, "Joel, I'm from Manhattan and maybe I can make it a better show.""

Chi: "We Chi and Amy] talked for like an hour and she did not ask me one question about myself, not one."

Chi also said that "...unfortunately most of America is just like where Amy is from -- white trash..."


Is it any wonder we love her?

Snee

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 12:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
question. why do a lot of people say 'white trash' instead of just 'trash'?

Snee

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 12:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
btw, don't send chiara up north. we canadians would like to keep our polite image! hehe

Ryanc2002

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 12:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Snee - "White Trash" refers to well...er...Don't wanna say Tonya so....best example I can think of is Roseanne and family on the early seasons of her TV show.

Spree17

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 12:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
snee its basically the same as the nword in some ways but for some reason accepted. I dont know why and it is probably wrong. For some reason its ok to be a racist against white people.

Snee

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 12:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
yeah, i get the trash part, but i think the 'white trash' bothers me. i kinda get the feeling that maybe it began as a slur toward non-white races, basically saying that white is usually not trash while other races, well...

i hope this is wrong. just wanted to get some more ideas.

Sia

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 12:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Off2cthwizrd, I think Chiora's brother was trying to use reverse-psychology on her to keep her from being on "BigBrother" since he knew it would embarrass him and his family and would bring so much negative attention to them. See, knowing Chiora to be nasty WT to the core and realizing that BB's casting directors would just eat his sister up with a spoon, Joel no doubt tried his best to dissuade his delusional sibling from her quest. So sad that she doesn't see how disgusting her behavior is, both to her fellow housemates and to the viewing public. She is so young to have so permanently and so publicly damaged her reputation. She has nowhere to go from here.

Zachsmom

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 12:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Snee : here's a snippet from this link :White Trash Origins

The origin of the term "white trash" was derived from the deep South during the time of slavery. It was used to classify the small farmers that either worked the land as indentured servants or simply for basic food needs. These people were generally uneducated and, in turn, denied the right to vote. Many of the more esteemed slaves, such as the "house Negro," looked down upon these whites and considered their position as slaves to be higher than that of the so-called "poor white trash." While these poor farmers weren't in bondage, they were still oppressed by a culture of cyclical poverty present in the South.

Vonne

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 12:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Snee, white trash was what some of the rich called the white working class.

not sure if this is allowed, feel free to delete, but for a better defintion check out this site http://xroads.virginia.edu/~MA97/price/open.htm

Snee

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 12:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
thanks vonne and zachsmom! that is really interesting. hunh, the things you learn on this board!

Sia

Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 12:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The term "poor white trash" is used where I live. DH and I have shortened it to "PWT." It has no racial overtones at all as it is used here. It refers strictly to caucasians who exhibit the behaviors that Hillbilly outlined. I would include in that category people who turn their kids out of doors unsupervised and don't provide adequate care, nutrition, supervision and/or health care for them.