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Hillbilly

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 09:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
...it's kinda like watchin a bizarre version of The Pied Piper....

Spunky

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 09:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Do you know if Amy asked him "Why didn't you want me back in the house?"
It would be so simple for Amy to stop Roddy with his charming ways by asking him that question.
I'd like to know what his answer would be...I'd like to see how well he knows how to dodge another bullet...

Draco

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 09:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't believe how slimy and manipulative Roddy is being. I really hope Amy doesn't fall for this. I hope M and D set her straight. If Chiara and Roddy aren't up this week I'm going to be so disappointed! Go Amy!!! I'm so glad she's back. I'm excited about the show again!

Hillbilly

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 09:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy..."Amy, I didn't want you back in the house cause you still have much to learn, Grasshopper"

Jaysgal

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 09:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Didn't he say all of those things before she ever left the show, anyway? So, what's new? If Amy is foolish enough to hear everything restated, then so be it. Besides, she is getting the second chance that others are never going to get. Why would it matter if she is foolish this time? It gives others who had only one chance the chance they deserve.

Amy probably adores Roddy as an intelligent guy, whose life has been together compared to hers. So she can look up to him. This is her chance to bond with him and not be in the situation that she was earlier.

No, I think Roddy is gonna get caught eventually. People of such personality usually get caught at the end, but they do put up an intense fight. He will be violently thrown out. It's just that Danielle will see her defeat before Roddy ever leaves that house, which I would love. And they can't whine anymore because they had the chance too but didn't get rid of him.

Ginger1218

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 09:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
As I stated before - I believe Roddy has a way about him like a cult leader. He seems to use the insecurities of people to make them do his bidding. I think he is actually quite scary. He is a classic manipulator.

Spree17

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 09:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
roddys own friends said he was the kind of guy that can get on a plane w/o a ticket.
When roddy tells amy he is glad she is back she should turn to him and ask him did you vote for me to come back?

Gidget

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 10:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
arnie is playing a very delicate, dangerous game. i don't care what kind of waivers the hgs signed.
roddy has an almost svengali type personality. some have said sociopath tho i don't think he is that far gone.
they took amy out of the house and gave her psychological counseling while she was out. knowing she might go back in they would be obligated from an ethical point of view to make sure she understood the dangers of the house, especially roddy.
if they warned her then she knows what she should do to deal with it.
if they didn't they could have one hell of a malpractice suit on their hands.
you can only mess with people so far especially if you are claiming to be a licensed health care professional.
and unlike crista, i think amy has the kind of connections to make a law suit soar.

Wigglepuppy

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 10:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy exhibits psychopathic/sociopathic behaviour. Being an amateur Ripperologist, I've read a lot of interesting stuff about
sociopaths. Here's some examples of sociopathic behaviour:

"Cocky, arrogant, charming, and often appearing "electric" (according to Dr. Hare), this is how psychopaths often come across. Guggenbuhl-Craig states that despite these contradictions, they are very talented at appearing much more humble than the average person, but are hardly so. The psychopath is rather an emotional void who cannot feel much except when it comes to himself. Among his possessions are included human beings: girlfriends, wives, and children. Some psychopaths can even very fond of animals, contrary to the common viewpoint, but still view them as objects in relation to themselves."

and this little gem:

"Meloy, the famous researcher and psychologist, claims that hysteric or histrionic women feel empowered when attached to the psychopath, regardless of the truth she has been told about him, or regardless of what he himself has told her. Some of these women have an underlying fantasy to feel that they are in control with the psychopathic male. At the same time, I often question whether it's only the histrionic/hysterical types who fall prey to psychopaths, because it seems that all women, regardless of their mental state, are prey to psychopaths."

one more:

"Despite their acting, psychopaths are not able to experience profound emotions. They only relate to others on a basis of power rather than affection. They are are also incapable (or do not want to) maintain real attachments, although they are very good at forming them in a superficial manner and talented at conjuring extreme devotion from others."

I found all of this (metioculously researched, I must say) at:

http://www.geocities.com/lycium7/ (sorry, don't know how link the address)

So yes, a cult-leader type personality is just the one Roddy has.

Or he could be like Frank Abagnale Jr., the real-life antihero of Catch Me If You Can, which will be released in December (directed by Spielberg, starring DiCaprio and Hanks!) Not sure if he's a sociopath, or ever was a sociopath, but Frank got on a lot of airplanes free.

Floresmama

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 10:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Never fear she is not falling for his lines she came into the house planning to put up Chiapet and Roddy and that is exactly what she is going to do she just told Marc. Go Amy! Go Amy!

Seamonkey

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 10:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Here's another reference on what I think.. he's a seducer, a svengali, a manipulator.. a cult leader type of personality.. where he charms people, flatters but also knocks them down, expects obedience... mental abuse.

http://www.trancenet.org/hearts/research/reference/dsm4.shtml

I've had plenty of education in this area.. personal experience but also lots of conferences, reading, training in sexual assault issues, domestic violence issues, etc.

He has the potential to be dangerous because he uses his power. Doesn't mean outside the house he would act upon his power, but I suspect he'll always be into control of others.

Glad Amy does plan to put him up..

Wonder how the votes would go..

Marcellas seems to want to believe that Roddy's been influenced by Chiara, so he might vote Chiara.

I think Jason.. poor Jason.. he seems so drawn to both R and C.. tossup. But I suspect he might vote Roddy.

I think Dani and Lisa would go Roddy.

Think Gerry would go Chiara.

Potential for a tie.. think Amy might vote Chiara.

Patman

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 11:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The vote is among 5 houseguests, Amy will not break any tie.

Becca

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 12:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason's no idiot. He knew EXACTLY what he was doing, when he got of the tub and gave HOH to Amy!

Snee

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 02:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
wendo: 'The Art of Mind F*cking by Roddy Mancuso ©2002'

THAT'S what he's written! hehe. dang, he's good. i want him out of the game just because i want one of my favourites to win, but it would sure be exciting if he stayed!

Jan

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 04:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy has fallen fro Roddy. He has charmed her to death overnight and now in the HOH

Spunky

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 10:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think she just did. With Chiara out she'll pair off with Roddy. Oh la la...

C1mag

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 10:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The sleaziest move would be to keep Chiara and boot Jason. Amy would be devastated!! Marcellus would be gone! Gerry would not have a chance. You'd have Lisa to help you get Roddy when the time is right. I could play this out to my benefit. If Amy wants to be a fool I'd make her time a living breathing HELL over this decision. LOL

Saggkl

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 10:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Amy was under Roddys spell before she got voted out. And she's under it still.

Onlymytulips

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 10:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
wow, reading what wigglepuppy wrote:Roddy exhibits psychopathic/sociopathic behaviour,makes me wonder if Roddy could be a threat if he doesn't get his way? Can he be physically or mentally abusive?

and C1....what do you mean play this out to your benefit??

Ellenkats

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 10:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sagg --- Yup, she's under his spell. Maybe it's cuz she sat in the sea brew 'double double, tub-o-trouble' the longest.

C1mag

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 11:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"Play it out to your benefit" = restructure your game plan and concede that Roddy can't be beat by pecking him off. Ride his coattails to the finals and at least snag 50,000. Play with him in other words.

Neokat

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 11:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy is trying to apease both sides by nominating Chiara and Jason IMO. I read in a post by Wendo Fri August 16,02-04:49am that Roddy was telling her how Jason had given his word to vote for Lisa but he voted for Eric to leave instead and how he could not be trusted.

Wendo

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 11:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Neokat, I would argue she's appeasing herself, and Roddy. By nominating Jason, she's telling Roddy, I believe you and anything you say.

I can honestly say now, that I wish Amy hadn't come back in the house. She's nothing more than another pawn for Roddy to manipulate. Period.

And, I remember now why I wasn't too sad when she was evicted. Her voice on the feeds annoys the crap out of me.

Moedog

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 11:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
From LFPs: Friday, August 16, 2002 - 05:10 pm

Amy-I would be tortured by letting other people influence my decisions. It would ruin the rest of my time here.

R-if anyone started laying it to you thick on one side you have to remember that my respecting you should have more weight than them bullying you.

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:::reaching for the wastebasket; I'm gonna hurl!:::

C1mag

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 11:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo are you sure we are not one in the same person? :) We are totally on the same page. Have you noticed that Marc isn't exactly fawning over Amy right now? Have you noticed that they are being just a tad stand offish? She is about to throw a wrench in their game. The thing that is pissing me off is that they aren't stepping up and being point blank with her because they know she has a HUGE mouth. Amys return was not a good thing. They should have just booted Roddy and then no matter who came back it wouldn't have mattered. They would have been perplexed as to which alliance they should join.