Do any of the HG's have a real legitamate reason to hate Gerry?
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John32070

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 06:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm disgusted listening to the feeds tonight where outside you have Roddy, Chi, and Lisa saying how they can't stand the fact Gerry is still there, and inside you have Marcelles running his mouth as always about him. I was surprised even Amy said she didn't trust Gerry. Why? Aside from the first week veto of Marcelles, I have yet to see a true reason for them to really not like him. And even the veto thing should be water under the bridge by now because of how everyone took to Marcelles afterwards. Lisa I can understand because of him putting up her and Eric and then booting Eric, but if she was that torn up about it, why'd she not vote to get him back? I really hope Gerry wins HOH next week and screws them in some way. I do have to say that Jason is the least offensive person to Gerry but yet I'd bet he'd boot him out first chance too. I hope as the HG's leave and get interviewed eventually that the reporters will rake them over the coals for treating him so bad.

Willow_Woman

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 06:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
John, I agree. I haven't seen Gerry actually do anything any worse than any of the remaining hgs.

Is it possible that he doesn't quite "fit in" with the rest of the young crowd and they see him as weak and offensive because of that?

Or, it could be that their world is so "small" now, they have to do something to keep themselves entertained, so why not bash Gerry. Sort of like a bunch of school-yard bullies going after the little guy because they have nothing better to do.

Have to disagree with you about Jason though...he's my favorite to win. Unless he suddenly does something awful, I think he's a little .

JMO, of course.

W.

Rod

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 06:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree. I keep wondering why they don't trust him. I haven't seen him break his word yet except for the veto.

He doesn't have a great personality. Like Roddy he is condescending and pompous and arrogant. But he is just an older version of Roddy and they love him ..so who knows. I think the fact that he is older and fatter and not good looking in their eyes is enough for most of them. They are a pretty shallow bunch

Wcv63

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 06:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No they have no real reason to hate him. They may be annoyed by certain habits. And they may be leery of his game strategy. But Gerry has done nothing to earn the title of "most hated". They just need a house patsy....someone to blame all their frustrations on.

Fuddyduddy

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 06:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Reporters? Raking someone over the coals for treating Gerry badly? Don't think that will happen in a million years!! (Not that they shouldn't say something....but I wouldn't count on it)

I think Gerry made them mad re: veto and why he was using it. Made them look bad. Then I think Gerry has not helped himself by his bad habits and "teaching moments". He brags a lot!!!

And he actually bores me.....but that is no reason for foul language and gossipy putdowns that the HGs have made. They really do act like a bunch of snotty-nosed spoiled brats....and I think another reason they detest him is because they (or some) feel that because he is "old", he shouldn't be in the house!!

You're right...Jason is the least offensive. If he does vote him off, I assume it will be because of Jason's strategy, or because he wants to do Danielle's bidding. (I prefer to think he will do it because it is the right time)

Wendo

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 06:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The HG's have no legitimate reason to dislike Gerry. So, because of that, they harp on him personally. Typical immature behavior.

Csnog

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 06:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gerry is the kid that they love to bully.

Plain and simple. No other reason.

As long as Gerry is in the house Marcie is reminded in his OWN mind that Gerry is the reason he is there.

I knew that the minute Josh was gone that Gerry would be one of the next ones up.

I hope he gets HOH again and puts up Marcie and Danie. They have been the meanest about him.

I also hope that the HG's come to this board and read it. Nothing like a little reality about how they acted in the house.

Woofy

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 06:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that Roddy and Eric were afraid that Gerry was who they are going to be when they're in their 40s. That scares'm

Hosewater

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 06:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
On the final show, I hope at least one of the former houseguests apologizes to Gerry.

Woofy

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 06:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hosewater, that would really be nice!

Maris

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 06:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nobody has a legitimate reason to hate anyone in that house. Do they have a legitimate reason to dislike him, depends. I think they do of course.

To discount their feelings of Gerry and put it down to immaturity totally ignores taht every single person in that house does not like him. Even Saint Jason. There is a reason why everyone cant stand him. It is more than habits, and never shutting up. We are not trapped in that house with him 24/7. We dont turn around and there he is up your ass. We have no idea why they feel the way they do. Dani feels it, Roddy feels, Jason feels it.

No there is no reason to hate him but I bet they have good enough reason to dislike him since it was unanimous.

Firebird05

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 06:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No I don't think any of them have a reason to hate Gerry. I don't think that any of them really do, except for some odd reason Mars, I think he is just their smokescreen to cover how they are really feeling and who they are really going after.


And Yes they all owe Gerry a big apology.

Sobaditsgood

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 07:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, what has Jason said to indicate he "feels it" (a strong dislike for Gerry)? I haven't been following closely and apparently have missed something...

Bbdiva

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 07:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it comes down to they can, and that is where their mentality is at. ASP must of let interns right out of High School cast the group of rats. Because even the 30 somethings are still in the I can talk trash about anyone cuz I am cool mind set. Hopefully if we have BB4 we will have both a new production company and a better crop of guest. Maybe the guy from Surivor will take over producing as he finds a good mix of ages and personalities.

Abby

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 07:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I feel BB Owes an apology to Gerry and family as well. To do what they did on the show the other night was lowering themselves to that level as well.. as stated in another thread. Total humiliation is NOT PART OF THE GAME. What about his family and friends too. Has nothing to do with the game. It would be nice if one sees the error of their ways and says they are sorry, but I dont really see that coming

Sunriverose

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 07:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe what they think is that they are young and beautiful and he is not. They also assume that when they are 50ish, they will be just as they are today, certainly not overweight, certainly not with a flatulence problem, etc etc ad nauseum.

At least that's what I thought when I was younger, geez, even when I was 40ish.

Something bad happens to ya (or at least most of the "Ya's" that I know) when you turn 50 or so, and it ain't pretty.

I know some beautiful 50ish women and some down right to die for 50ish men and I'm tellin' ya that no matter how perfect it is at the dinner table, when late night or morning comes, there is some undesirable rear turbulance.

The rest of the hygene stuff is basically how we were raised and how we get on in life.

Because of the way I was raised and my own total ignorance, It just flippin never entered my mind to wash my hands before preparing food. And to really add a grose aspect to this...when a girlie uses the pottie she has a lot of tissue between her hands and any contamination source. When I was younger, only felt the need to wash hands if tissue failed in some way.

For men...icky, icky, icky, yuckers. You got no tissue during your business. Ya gotta wash.
But I bet we all know many men who do not.

It's also icky that this is one of my longest posts and its about potty.

Maris

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 07:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have seen Jason on the feeds whisper to Dani and Lisa about Gerry and laugh about him. He spoke about running away from Gerry and having to avoid Gerry. Mostly laughing and whispering. he never spoke about his habits mostly about his endless chatter and wanting to get away from him.

Crazydog

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 07:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here we go again... do any of you Gerry supporters not at least recognize the possibility that they have been irritated with Gerry ever since "my.soul.is.not.for.sale"? There was an alliance. Gerry broke it by vetoing Marcellus. In doing so he also implied they were homophobic racists. Even Dani was surprised, she said there were no racial issues in the house. They disliked his characterization of them, and ever since then they have not got along with him. It doesn't help that they do not like his hygiene habits. We should all be familiar with the fact that hate snowballs. Look how quickly everyone on these boards turned against Roddy and Chiara. When you have one person doing it, everyone does it. I'm not saying that's necessarily right, but those of you who say they have no reason to dislike Gerry are overlooking his betrayal of them.

Fuddyduddy

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 07:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
AMEN! Abby....

Just goes to show you how society has lowered the bar to such a level that SOMEONE (interns, whoever) would pick such a crew.

And who in their right mind would not consider the ramifications of the "Gerry Show" on their families and friends?

Why on earth do they have people in there who are already on anxiety medicine? This kind of game does not add to one's peaceful state of mind!!

Zachsmom

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 07:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
when late night or morning comes, there is some undesirable rear turbulance.

LOL..putting it lightly..LOL

John32070

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 07:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for the responses. I think the main thing might just be because he doesn't fit in, which is why ever since BB1 I have questioned why they should have a 40+-year old on the show. But maybe the fact that the older guys are fish-out-of-water is the reason they throw one in every year. So far, the older BB women (Karen, Sheryl, Monica) haven't been so bad aside from maybe Karen's semi-breakdown but I still liked her. As to the group apologizing to Gerry at the end, that would be nice, but aside from maybe Roddy, I don't think they would.

Abby

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 07:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
HE IMPLIED NOTHING OF THE SORT... What I heard he was talking about HIMSELF. If the shoe fits then they must wear it. Like Josh calling him a NAZI. That was pretty reversed racist too me. And uncalled for.

Csnog

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 07:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gerry knows whats up but he has decided to lay low.

He has talked about it in the DR.

He mentioned in an early episode that he wanted to last for a month.

I give him credit for not blowing up at anyone nor being demanding when he was HOH.

I also give him credit for sticking to his weight loss.
We still hear how some of the others think he eats more than his share but he has lost over 20 pounds.
Gerry knew what he was getting into when he signed to go on BB. He is mature enough not to let it bother him.
BB will not allow Gerry to win. He is not beautiful enough for them either.

Gerry will be known for being one of the nicest HG's on BB this year.

I am sure that someone he knows reads this board and will tell him about how we stood up for him.

Wcv63

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 07:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Crazydog, playing the POV should not make him the object of hate. So what. He didn't go along with the alliance. They should have just reajusted their strategy instead of attacking him personally.

I don't fall into the "I want Gerry to win" catagory because I am annoyed by some of his personality traits and habits. Annoyed by is certainly a far cry from hating.

I do admire his ability to withstand the slings and arrows that have been lobbied his way but I credit a lot of that to his being totally oblivious to other people's feelings.

Also with all the tension in the house it's convenient for the hgs to have one central target to take out their frustrations on. Doesn't make it right...but it does explain it.

Crazydog

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 07:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Abby, I know he said that about himself. But he said Marcellus was nominated because he was black and gay, and that he didn't feel uncomfortable about it. In other words, the other 5 people put up M because they didn't like him because he was black and gay. That sounds like to me that he is saying they are racist and homophobic. I'm not sure what you mean by if the shoe fits they must wear it. Are you saying that it was racist and homophobic and they have to own up to that? I disagree. Marcellus was nominated because he was being a big baby about the tree competition - as soon as he was out he pouted and sulked and got into his bed.

John32070

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 07:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Crazydog, as I said to begin with, I think the veto thing did hurt him and yes he maybe did go overbaord with his explanation of why, but I don't think any of them can deny that keeping Marcelles has been all bad. I think Roddy is now finding out that Danielle is far more a problem than Gerry ever has been. As to Eric and Lisa; that was the first nomination that made true sense to do and even though I don't like Lisa, Gerry deciding to toss out Eric was the right move. I so hope Gerry wins the next HOH, I'll bet it will be a surprise who he'd put up.

Abby

Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 07:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
MAYBE just Maybe, he realized that it Could have easily been the same for Marc that it is for him now, He was looking inside himself, the reasons why he was quick to jump on that band wagon and HE jumped was because Marc was black and gay. Seeing that, he didnt like it. He used the POV. and stated his reasons. They were meant for himself. I think Gerry is smart enough to say "I did it because all of them were against you because..." If he believed that. He didnt. He stated his reason was for his own behavior. Josh and the rest turned it around. Josh had set that up right at the meeting before the tree comp.. as he had stated in one of his first DRs.

Why did
Josh zero in on Marc? He was the ring leader at the very start and fell from power there after. Question stands. I am Not saying anyone else in that house is racist. What I said was that Gerry may have tended to go that way and saw the error of it. Have to give the man kudos for that.