Pulk | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:32 pm     I think Dani will be in deep crap if Marcellas talks to Chiara about her. |
Wendo | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:35 pm     I think Dani would be safe in a Dani vs Chi vote. Amy REALLY wants Chiara out so she can have Roddy. I can see Amy INSISTING (to Mar and anyone else) that Chi be the one to go, they'll get Dani next week. If they go after Dani instead of Chiara, Amy has to still deal with Chi hanging out with and sleeping with the object of her desire. |
C1mag | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:35 pm     I really am resigned to the fact that Roddy is not going this week. Either Gerry will veto or Lisa will tell Dani whats up and Dani will have to vote out Chiara as promised in order to do damage control but Marcellus will not forget this at all and at the right time he will pounce on her and recall this whole situation. Oh well, thats the way the game goes. Marcellus may just win this but Gerry has got a hell of a chance as well. I wouldn't be surprised if he put up Gerry and Dani next week if she doesn't get put up this week if Gerry vetos. Amy was pretty pissed about the whole thing and said she wished she would have put her up instead of Roddy. Roddy has those two mesmerized. |
Wendo | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:36 pm     In addition, I don't see Amy wanting Gerry to remove Chiara for a Dani vs Roddy vote either...do you?! |
Keiffer | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:38 pm     Wendo have you ever heard the expression associated with basedball that says "if you are cheating you aren't trying"....? The same thing applies to telling lies in this game. You lie and tell half truths to win the game, but if you get caught then you have to pay the price. It isn't telling a lie if you don't get caught. Danny for the first time might get caught. I still don't think she has been caught, and I think that it will end up with gerry leaving the nomms the same. BTW I keep hearing that everyone in the house is telling lies.... what was ROddy's lie? |
Gouraphik | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:39 pm     The way Marcellas is going, the whole house will know what went down. It was always in Gerry's best interest to keep Roddy ('cause Roddy's a good shield), but this will only give him a better justification for his actions come the Veto meeting. And we all know that Gerry loves to justify his actions at Veto meetings. It'll be Must See Live Feeds, people. |
Gina8642 | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:41 pm     Interesting observation from Dani and Marc's convo earlier. Dani started stringing Marc along, talking about how she and Marc were together and then brought Jason into it (liar), and we could be finally three, yada, yada Marc says - that was before Amy came back.. Marc just put Dani on notice that his alligence to Amy is strong, and his pact/alligence/whatever with Dani, is not necessarily stronger. Dani's pool of strong allies is shrinking.... I've chidded Marc before for not trusting his true allies (read Gerry), but finally the one he is distrusting (read Dani) is worthy of his distrust. |
Amy | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:41 pm     The only way Danielle can use this to her advantage is if she finds out about it. We can only wait and see if Lisa tells Dani or uses this information to help her own position in the house. I personally think that List has her own agenda and isn't truly loyal to anyone. I doubt Amy or Marcellus will tell Dani that they have her figured out. |
Wendo | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:42 pm     Another thing. Dani really went against her own advice and strategy; keep your eyes open and your mouth shut. She blathered on and on today, telling things she should have NEVER told Marcellas. Boy, she read him wrong. And, I would say Roddy has read Marcellas right. Think about this, Roddy planted seeds about Dani during some of their prior talks. So, what happens? Mar puts those seeds together with what Dani said. C1mag, I think we have to say it again, don't you? Roddy IS the king. |
Kalekona | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:44 pm     Hang on a minute Roddy's hands are not clean in all of this- who do you think planted all the seeds of doubt about Dani in Marcellas's mind? Roddy! The other night he spent all night with Marcellas much of it talking Dani down. No Roddy had a huge hand in this Dani just feel right into his plan. |
Maris | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:46 pm     Marcellas always had doubts. Think back to when Marcellas was HOH and his conversations with Amy about Dani. Talking about her kids going to private school and he was tired of listening to she needs the money. |
C1mag | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:46 pm     Gerry will only Veto if Amy approves. When she went to Gerry the second time before nominations she said she had no choice cause she didn't want to nominate any of the others. Now she has someone she wants to nominate. Dani. Roddy remains safe and she thinks Chiara would go. Marcellus, Roddy and Gerry could easily get rid of Dani. Daaaaaamn! Dani played this so wrong. What the hell happened to her? If no one see's how vulnerable she is right now then you are crazy. She could actually be going home. Dani got caught telling Chiara that Marcellus was after her, but that she had her back when the truth is Marcellus knows she doesn't have her back she just wants her man out and he figures Dani was doing damage control in the event that Roddy goes Chiara would want to align with Dani and target Marcellus and amy if she got hoh next week. Dani got caught by the wrong person. He would evict Dani now over Chiara to get even. I'd do the same thing. Gerry will do whatever Marcellus asks and Roddy would definitely evict Dani if she were up right now. |
Goddessatlaw | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:46 pm     Wendo, C1- PLEASE - Woody will hear you all the way over in the southwest suburbs and set the board on fire. |
Keiffer | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:47 pm     But in this planting of seeds with Marcy that Roddy did did he lie about Danny in that conversation? Or did he point out truths about her behavior? Seems that he doesnt have to lie to point things out about Danny. |
Niceguy | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:49 pm     I'm trying to reign in my enthusiasm. I love this. We haven't reached the climax of this little vignette but it will arrive shortly. |
Gouraphik | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:49 pm     Everybody's got bloody hands in this game. It's just that Danielle may have been caught red handed. She should have heeded the advice she gave in the DR regarding Gerry's hygiene...wash your nasty hands! In addition, keep your eyes open, and your mouth closed. Do you trust the sheep, or the wolf in sheep's clothing. Etcetera, etcetera. Lesson for the day: if you spout platitudes, do yourself a favor and follow them! |
C1mag | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:50 pm     Godd the only thing Wood will say is that Roddy isn't king of the house. LOL... However, if Roddy remains in the house then actually he becomes once again the King supreme again. Amy loves the king, Marcellus loves the king, Jason adores the king and Lisa will go with the tide and the King will play all of them. He didn't have to do a thing to get back in this game thats what irks the sh@t out of me. Dani pulled a Josh. |
Keiffer | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:52 pm     I agree niceguy... I was planning on going to be aboutnow so that I caould actually be awake for work for a change, but you kinda get the feeling that some real plot twists might happen tonight. Of course if I stay up I am betting that nothing happens, and Amy and Marcy will not find out Danny's whole plan, and if they don't they wont get Gerry to do anything. Amy hates Chiara so much that it would take a very very in your face thing from Danny for her to want to change things. I would also like to point out that Amywhile talking to Roddy almost put Danny up. I am just wondering if that Mom telling her how much she liked DAnny saved Danny this week. |
Phatcat | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:53 pm     Marc knows exactly what he is doing. He's not only setting Dani up, he's using his 'good' friend Amy. He does have his own agenda and he has been playing all along. Just smarter than most. I wanted Marc to win for awhile, but I really don't like some of the things he's done the last few weeks. He went to Roddy last week and told him everything Dani was doing, then made his own deal with Roddy a couple of nights ago. Jason and Amy may be final two...that would be a hoot. I just don't understand what Dani was thinking today when she went to Marc. She had already expressed to Lisa that she doubted his loyalty. Wazzzzup with her???? JMO -FWIW And I still think Gerry will veto Roddy for the right deal. |
Wendo | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:54 pm     I don't know, C1mag. Marcellas PROMISED Amy that he would evict Chiara. Don't forget, Amy WANTS Chiara gone. If he goes against Amy, then she's going to be pissed at him. He would jeapordize his position in the house. I just don't think he'll do that this week if Dani is up on the block with Chi. (edited b/c not wrong, but gone.) |
Wcv63 | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:54 pm     Keiffer Dani didn't lie when pointing things out about Roddy. It's just a matter of Marc either choosing to believe one or the other or both. He has alliances with both. He may feel that since Dani's alliance doesn't include Amy and he could convince Roddy to bring Amy along, he would be better to hide behind. Keeps him out of the spotlight while Roddy is a target. I don't know. I give up trying to figure out what the heck these people are doing. They confound me at every turn. |
C1mag | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:54 pm     Final analysis is that Dani has two choices... Damage control by keeping Roddy in the house and voting Chiara out or not say a word about Jasons vote and go after Roddy if he is still up on the block tomorrow. ... Actually Roddy did have a part in this. He did plant the seed that Dani has her own agenda but then again they all do. It's just that Marcellus caught her dogging him too Chiara. Otherwise I think he would have let Dani's speech earlier go. She just went to far and bad luck got her caught. |
C1mag | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:58 pm     Wanted to add that if Gerry veto's then Dani is going up!! Amy already said she wished she would have known in advance what was really up with Dani that way she would have put her up against Kiki. Lets see how dani deals with a nomination. The woman really went down on my scale today for some REAL BAD PLAYING! |
Amy | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 07:59 pm     Dosen't Danielle doing damage control require her to know about what happened. At this point she has no idea about what happened with Marcellas and Amy. And Lisa may never tell her what happened in the HOH. |
Wendo | Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 08:00 pm     Keiffer, Dani spoke truthfully about Roddy to Mar today. But, he's on Roddy's side now. No doubt about it. He's made a choice and gone with who he thinks serves his purpose, which is fine. Just bad for Danielle. Ugh, today has given me a HUGE headache. I feel like switching the feeds off. What a bummer. C1mag, yep, those are Dani's only choices at this point; and that's assuming she even finds out. We don't know if Lisa will even tell her about Amy and Marcellas's negative sentiments about her. |