Chelle | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 12:52 pm     Last night he told both Roddy and Dani he would not tell Amy things that had happened in the hosue. He also said that he wouldn't tell her who to put up. First thing he does this morning is starts his Chiara and Roddy bashing campaing. I thought that Marc really was one to take the high road. I thought that he was better than most of them. Maybe Amy brings out the worst in him. Maybe she brings out his need to gossip. I had already lost complete respect for Danielle for being manipulative to oh say, everyone. Lisa could be conned by an ape. Roddy and Chiara have had their moments. Gerry is Gerry. I guess the only one I have any respect for at all at this point is Jason. Oddly enough Amy seems to have grown up, and I will give her a second chance. Of course it has been less than twenty-four hours. |
Maris | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 12:59 pm     Jason, Dani and Lisa had all agreed that Marcellas should talk to Amy. In fact Amy said this morning everyone said make sure you talk to Marcellas. They all knew he was going to talk to Amy and it was what they wanted. Last night Marcellas was very clear to Dani that he would not tell Amy who to nominate. This morning when Amy asked him who he wanted her to nominate Marcellas said I am not going to tell you what to do. She replied dont worry I already had my nomination speeches written before I came in the house. |
Fluff | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 01:04 pm     Wouldn't a Chiara and Roddy bashing campaign be better than a Gerry one??? I don't understand. I thought it was a good idea to get rid of those two. |
Jan | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 01:10 pm     yeah the only thing that I really look down on Marc for in this conversation is that he told her he believes what Roddy has said and that he is only guilty by association with Chiara. He doesn't see that Roddy is the master puppeteer at all. Thankfully he does believe Roddy should be up against Kiki but only to get Kiki out. I have to admit when it comes to manipulation and reading people, Marci is very susceptible to flattery and not the sharpest knife in the drawer! |
Maris | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 01:12 pm     He also said he blamed Roddy for putting him and Amy up together. He also made it very clear that Roddy and Chiara started the ORD. He did make excuses for Roddy by saying that he thought that Roddy was unaware of a lot of the stuff that Chiara was doing. If it is a Roddy Chiara nomination then you can bet that Chiara is gone. |
Spree17 | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 01:13 pm     Marc is just looking to fit in and be accepted. He is not easily manipulated but if you can make him feel good about himself he is right there with you. He has to believe you like him. He didnt with josh but he wants to with everyone. |
Woodpecke® | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 01:21 pm     Marcellus was bashing Gerry hard this morning. He insists on calling him fat and sloppy and then starts in on his personality. Chiara and Marcellus both think that their graphic descriptions of others win them points while they are in a peer group setting, but I am positive they all think of Marcellus as a small minded hypocritical two-faced liability. Marcellus is ripe for the picking, and I am sure he will be subject to nomination very soon. He needs to leave. Not this week though. I see Roddy walking out to join Eric so they can share war stories about how dumb they were to allow their big heads to control their little swollen heads. |
Kennyb | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 01:22 pm     Well hell man SOMEONE needs to tell the poor girl what to do---Roddy still had her up at 630 CST time this morning filling her ears full of crap about how much he liked her ---blah blah blah |
Snee | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 01:23 pm     snee agree with spree. also, i don't understand why some people thing manipulation and campaigning is a bad thing. i think it would be stupid not to. it's good to scheme in this show; it's not good to get caught. |
Woodpecke® | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 01:27 pm     Manipulation is part of the game. Roddy has the tools to manipulate, he is just far too lazy to carry it out. He forgot that you can't send others to make sure your ideas are carried out; you must do it yourself. |
Kalekona | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 01:30 pm     I love marcellas- except when he goes on and on about gerry, i feel he's being very unfair. I do see such a huge difference in him now that Amy is back, like he has more joy and life again. He was starting to get mean before last night. |
Spree17 | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 01:39 pm     playing the game is smart but all the nasty insults marcy and kiki say would only come back to haunt them in the last vote. roddy and danielle are smarter. Actually roddy is the smartest because he always has that last vote in mind and doesnt rip people in th dr or make the physical comments. By not making it personal insults he can always say he was just playing the game. Marcy and kik arent smart enough to win. gerry is wise also in keeping the personal insults to the bare minimum |
Snee | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 02:25 pm     again, snee agree with spree. (this is easy!) |
Sherbear | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 02:28 pm     Marcy also had a conversation with Roddy last night. Roddy was saying when we were talking last week about Josh, I told you the strings aren't connected. Put that in a wider view, another words put that to Ch. He says you understand why I can't put that in words. Marcy said I totally understand where you are coming from, I just came back into that situation myself. Another words he is afraid about Amy being back. He also went and bitched about her using all the drawers in the HOH to Dani. He then said he would be back in HRH not spending all the nights in HOH. Then realized all the beds were filled. He is gonna do Amy in. |
Chelle | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 02:29 pm     If this is the case I guess I don't understand why it is only okay to bad mouth people when you are a fan of that person. If it is ok then why is everyone bashing Chiara. Her so called betrayal was based on misinformation. (Her bad for believing.) Danielle used the info to exploit Lisa. (Her bad.) No one seems to think that was a horrible thing for Danielle to do. I am all for playing the game, but I wish more people would be like you. It is either ok for all the HG's of for none. |
Spree17 | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 02:36 pm     chelle: kiki was bad mouthing lisa to roddy way before that. She was saying she could never be friends with her outside the house. that lisa annoys her so much and none of her real girl friends are like lisa. That lisa was the kind of girl she would have hated in high school. Then later that same day I think kiki told lisa it would be great if she moved to ny so they could be sisters. The josh stuff came after the lisa vote. kik has been a miserable person never mind trashy. How would you like to be her parent? She calls other people to come look at her bowel movements. I'm sorry she is pure trash. |
Jan | Friday, August 16, 2002 - 02:37 pm     Chelle I can't speak for others but I don't mind the playing of games ..but I hate the petty cruelties. And I fault almost everyone for them. I cringe at many things Dani says although I am for her over Roddy and kiki. I dislike how Roddy behaves because of his air of "i am a great person and so much better than you". I dislike how Kiki behaves generally. I am, therefore for the other team. I really like many things about Marci but I HATE how he treats Gerry behind his back. So it is not the actual act of manipulating people that many people hate. It is how and with what attitude the manipulation is done. Dani guides people, Roddy condescends to them, kiki tells them what they have to do JMHO |