How fast will Roddy "break up" with Chiara?
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Hermione69

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 09:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't get the live feeds... I mentioned in another post that I am partially deaf so it would be a waste of my money since I wouldn't be able to hear anything. I have to base my opinions on the live feed posters. Am I missing something, Webkitty, that would make you see Roddy as emotionally abusive like that? Last night was the first I can remember him putting Chiara down. I think he liked her until her crassness started to get to be too much. And now he feels trapped and isn't sure what his next move should be now that he and Chiara both are high risks for nomination so he is scouting the territory. Not to mention, anyone that comes into this house expecting to form a lasting romance needs their head examined so it could be argued that Chiara is setting herself up.

I am a survivor of an emotionally abusive marriage and have come a long way from those days. I can usually spot an emotionally abusive man in a heartbeat. I don't see Roddy like that at all. His behavior has no similarites to the way my ex-husband treated me. There are usually parallels in such situations. So I am wondering if I am missing something? Do you have more concrete examples?

Sorry if this is off-topic a bit. Just curious about how people reach their opinions. (BTW, I am not a "Roddy lover." I like him in some ways, but I like most of them in some ways. I don't currently have any one person I am rooting to win.)

Max

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 09:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm with you, Hermione. He's not like my emotionally-abusive ex, either. He IS, however, smart and crafty in the way he's playing this game and the other players in it. That rubs some folks the wrong way, understandably, but it's the nature of the game, to me. I think Chiara is playing him just as much as he's playing her.

Maris

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 09:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think he believes he is a master manipulator but right now I dont know of any HG who is buying his schtick. They agree with him only because they still see the Roddy Chiara alliance as a major threat.

Groucho

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 10:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Roddy came in to the game with the idea of using his charm to form personal relationships with many different houseguests. By doing so he hoped to solidify his position without having to do any of the "lying" or "backstabbing" that he thinks would hurt him in the final vote (witness his constant talk about people watching the tapes when they get out). It's actually a pretty good plan, IMHO.

But his plan hit two problems: Chiara and the six-pack. I don't think he intended to get into a romantic relationship with anyone, but somehow it just happened with Chiara. At the same time he became identified with the six-pack alliance, making everyone else in the house extra wary of him. This made it harder to form personal bonds and execute on his strategy. He succeeded at that early on with Chiara, Eric, and Josh, but clearly these weren't the best choices of friends and allies. Later bonding efforts with Jason, Gerry, and Marcellus were less successful because now they're seeing Roddy in the context of the game and his position in the house. And his efforts to become friendly with Amy were doomed by Chiara, and he doesn't want to repeat that with Lisa now.

I admire his strategy and his ability to form relationships with people, which I do think is mostly sincere. But now he's stuck. He can't distance himself from Chiara too much, because that would make him look like a total jerk. But he's having trouble finding allies beyond her. He's lost control of the game and he's made a lot of mistakes, and he's got a lot of work to do if he's going to stay in the house much longer. He might just be up to the task, though, especially if Chiara leaves this week.

Cameltoes

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 11:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Goucho. He would have been better off heading up an anti-Original 6 alliance. I think he kind of freaked when he realized the original 6 was set up and he wasn't involved. Then he wormed his way in without taking a look at the big picture. He could have worked his charm without being an official member of that Six Pack. Which is basically what Danielle did. She was pretty well liked by everyone early on and was never an early target of the Six Pack which gave her alot of room (and time) to maneuver.

Angelbleu

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 11:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Interesting thing is I am wondering if Chiara is trying to distance herself from Roddy....did you see the conversation she had with Jason this morning...talking about sleeping in his room tonight...says she likes to sleep alone....very strange behavior..

Groucho

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 11:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Exactly, Cameltoes. Danielle isn't half as good at bonding with people as Roddy is, but she's executed his own strategy better than he has.

Sisalou

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 11:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Duchess - that is exactly what I was thinking this morning. IMHO that is why I think he jumped out so quickly.

(going to hide b4 i get bashed. I can dish it out but not take it.) :)

Maris

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 11:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Angel, Chiara is going to try to blame Roddy for everything and cozy up to Amy. She started last night by saying to Chiara I nominated Roddy. The question is going to be who dumps who first. Should be fun to watch.

Eden

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 11:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy doesn't have to break up with Chiara. That would lose him her vote in the end. He wants her voted OUT! He's doing all he can to get her nominated this week. She's a liability in the house and a vote to win out of it. Even if he ends up going up against her watch him work like crazy (in his subtle way) to see that she is the one gone next Thursday!

Wedge

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 01:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy was just cutting ( or trying to cut) Roddy's hair, Chia walked thru and sauntered in front of him twice...no response , he kept talking to the group , mainly Amy....I think tonite is gonna get interesting. She seems pissed off.

Patman

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 01:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Which is why Roddy didn't go for HoH this week. I think he got it all laid out for him once he saw that it was Amy inside the house.

Angelbleu

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 01:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes I am sure Chiara knows Roddy was up all night with Amy....and how come Roddy asked Amy to cut his hair...I thought Lisa cut their hair last time....

Tippet

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 02:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy and Chiara are arguing and throwing each other in pool on feed 3. Roddy does NOT think it is funny.

Tippet

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 02:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OOps they have made up and are talking about how the game has been tainted by big brother letting amy back in and giving an endurance hoh competition when she was refreshed. Poor roddy was too tired to sit that long.

Maris

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 03:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just tried to put this conversation in the LFP but I got it is in maintenance mode. Basically Chiara said that she is really depressed that Amy is back. She said that Amy may not put up Gerry and it would not be in her interest to put up Roddy and herself. Lisa said that Amy was smarter than they give her credit for.

Then Chiara said it was so unfair she could go out and she got to meet all the producers. FOTH after that.

So it would not be in her interest to put up Roddy and Chiara but at the same time Chiara said if she got HOH she was putting Amy up.

Romans8_1

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 03:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe we ought to send in a doctor. It seems Roddy is so weak that he could only last 2 minutes in an endurance contest. And only the totally refreshed Amy could last 3 hours. All the houseguest are so week that none of them could even last 3 hours. Should we be fearing for their health and their lives? Might one of them die pretty soon from shear exhaustion .....


Sorry, I just couldn't resist.

Gouraphik

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 03:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL, Romans8_1...you almost had me dying of laughter!

Robinyyes

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 03:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
can someone LF what the argument and pool throwing was all about? LF doesn't have details!

Woodpecke®

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 03:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought Roddy was the POWER in the house. Must have been misinformed by someone......(Hehe)!

Misslibra

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 03:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris i heard that convo to, and I was glad Lisa went right along with her. I know Lisa was probably thinking, you must be crazy if you think Amy isn't going to put you and Roddy up at the same time. Chiara can dish it out but when that same karma comes back her way it's a bitter pill for her to swallow.

Misslibra

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 03:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I didn't hear a argument??

Maris

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 03:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
yes, I love that Lisa she is a great little game player. She is listening to Chiara commiserating with her, sympathizing and sucking it all in. I dont understand Amy's new reluctance to nominate Roddy when this morning with Marc she was all set to nominate both of them. I dont know if Amy is just playing Dani beccause she doesnt trust her or whether she really is reluctant to nominate Roddy.

I think the only one Amy trusts is Marc. Anything she says to anyone else I will take with a grain of salt.

Chyang

Friday, August 16, 2002 - 04:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Agree with Webkitty about the kind of women-abuser Roddy is, you said it so well! I've been having this dirty feeling about him and just couldn't put it in words.

Agree with Duchess that Rodfather did not think he needed to get "dirty" in order to win. He has his pride and dignity to protect.
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Above were written much earlier, if it's not timely or don't fit any more, sorry!

Tonya did haircuts before, I think.
Has anyone told Amy about Rod's cry of "Big Brother not fair"? I just got back from the dentist, it's impossible for me to catch up.