Mrose4243 | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 08:45 pm     In the last few hours, Gerry, Marcellus and Chiara have expressed some apprehension about one of the evicted HG returning. I think its taken several hours for the repercussions of this newest twist to sink in and they seem to be kind of resentful of it. I wonder if the returning HG will also be HOH...I can't imagine that they would have the person return only to be put up that same week...which you KNOW would happen! |
Paulyaceiii | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 09:19 pm     If their is apprehension, it's well earned. That's why I would never, EVER, play Big Brother..the rules can change at Arnie's whims. |
Cornie | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 09:52 pm     Mrose..I agree with you.What would be the point of going back in just to be booted next week??Not sure who it was, but some of the hg's have already expressed that they would put them out next week and they'd all have 2 free weeks. Now if the evictee came back as HOH ...it would definately rattle their cages. |
Spunky | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:21 pm     When they all cheered it was just a first reaction and I'm sure they were thinking "it stinks!!!". They did express their displeasure in the DR. But they do have a point and they could complain to BB producers. A game is a game. There are rules to start with (although they can change them) they agreed to, the game is by elimination and once you are eliminated you cannot come back for the big prize. You can come back for added challenge but not for the big prize. I agree with all of them. "It's scandalous!!" |
Becca | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:32 pm     They have ever right to resent it. They are stuck in the house, the others get a tropical vacation and back in the house. This I will say, if one somehow by a fluke makes it to the final 2, the other houseguests will make the other person the automatic winner. It might not be spoken (and stated as the reason), but I think it's will be underling. |
Snee | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:46 pm     spunky, there were all the excited shots, then after most hg's had left the lr, they showed the girls sitting on the couch looking quite unhappy. i thought that was interesting. |
Wcv63 | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:59 pm     I saw this thread title and had a flashback to the ChickenGeorge rebellion. I really did have visions of Roddy rallying the troops saying he had discovered the truth, knew that the only way for them all to win is to walk out en masse. Wild eyed and using every Jungian theory he can unearth from his neverending store of trivia. Gotta admit. It'd make for good tv. But that's not what we're talking about is it? Ummmm....I think they signed away all their rights to appeal and acknowledge in written form that CBS/Shapiro Productions reserves the right to change the rules at any time. |
Charlesfk | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 12:08 am     And if Lori comes back, does she and Jason continues to receive the 3000$ a week bonus ? |
Spunky | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 12:10 am     Yes, I understand to change the rules at any time but not when the big prizes is concerned. That's another scandal in tv games??? Looks like it happened in the past... The big prize is won by elimination, the winner should be one who was never eliminated. What Shapiro is doing is going against the gaming code...or whatever that is... |
Hotty_Toddy | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 12:25 am     On Dog Eat Dog five contestants get eliminated and the last one is the winner. However, the losers can then take away the money from the winner, who gets jack squat while the five of them split the prize. I just watched this the first time the other night and the winner was indeed left with no money and the losers got $5000 each. So giving a "loser" another crack at the cash is not without precedent. |
Wcv63 | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 12:26 am     Double elimination could be the standard here. |
Spunky | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 12:30 am     Then they should have been told before they agreed to enter the house that eviction does not exclude the chance of winning the game. I doubt they would have had many applications... that's another fraud by Shapiro. |
Trulyscrumtious | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 05:26 am     They may very well have been told Spunky (that they were in store for some interesting little surprises once the door closed behind them), only when they are all out and doing their obligatory rounds of press will we ever really know what they were informed of. Anyway, I'm pretty sure that any clause in their contract stating that the rules of the game are subject to change at any time covers their be-hinds (cbs & asp i mean). |
Marksman | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 06:58 am     "What Shapiro is doing is going against the gaming code...or whatever that is... " PUH-LEEZE You are not privy to the official game rules, so how would you know if this goes against any gaming code. I am sure the players agreed to a pretty broad set of rules that left a lot of the game up to the Producer's discretion. And all aspects of a game need not be revealed from the onset. I think this makes the game all the better, and I think it makes the winner all the more deserving. Dealing with changes like this takes a lot more finesse than coming in to the house with a pre-planned strategy and implementing it step-by-step. And there is NO WAY that this group would walk out en-masse. While it was believable that the BB1 group might actually do it, none of these people would. I could just see them all lined up after telling Julie they all plan on leaving. Julie asks those who want to leave to take one step forward. A few of them feign a step in hopes of throwing others offsides, but otherwise everyone remains firmly in place. Because they ALL would love to be the only one who didn't leave and win the money. "Then they should have been told before they agreed to enter the house that eviction does not exclude the chance of winning the game. " You know they didn't know this, even in a general sense how? "I doubt they would have had many applications..." I seriously doubt it would have impacted anyone who was a legitimate contest in the least. "that's another fraud by Shapiro. " BS. It is only fraud if someone has been de-frauded. There is zero evidence that anyone has been de-frauded. |
Cliotheleo | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 08:19 am     Don't think the re-entering HG will AUTOMATICALLY get HOH as Julie said "there will be another HOH competition" in her list of things that were happening next Thursday. Now maybe the the returning HG will be able to compete for it? |
Earthmother | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 08:43 am     No one knows what their contract says. We have complained for the last two years "They need to change the rules", well they have and it might just be the best thing that could happen. Up to now the hgs have been pretty clueless about what's happening around them (Who's telling who what!!) The no banner rule (which I didn't like at first) has really changed the dynamics of this game. Change for most people is difficult, they like knowing what is coming next. I personally in this situation think it's time to upset the apple cart. Bringing a hg may or may not be the best thing for this show but until it's tried no one really knows for sure. I am hoping it's a hoot and like the POV, keeps them on their toes. |
Bridgetlovesbb | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 08:49 am     spunky, how boring would the show be if ALL of the "twists" were revealed before the show started? I for one was on the edge of my seat the whole week trying to figure out what the "twist" was. its FUN!!!! And the HGs cheered when they found out! If they tell us everything before hand, what is worth waiting for?? Just my opinion! |
Txbb3fan | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 08:56 am     I also, am fascinated with the idea of an evicted HG returning. Because no matter who it is, the cliques will be clammoring to get whoever it is on their side. I think the Marcellas clique has an advantage here but who knows? What I don't want to see is the HG returning and then getting the boot. If the person isn't given HOH then hopefully they are protected for at least one 'round' and safe from being nominated. |
Angelbleu | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 09:13 am     No this is not fair ....neither is the bb in South America that I mentioned in another post...the 10 houseguests had to earn their furniture by standing for 12 hours....they had to earn their dishes by washing a room full of dirty dishes....they had to earn the jacuzzi by filling it with little buckets....took them 3 days...BUT their were two more houseguest joining them that were being voted in by the public....they arrived AFTER all this took place...they didn't have to earn all those things.....now that isn't fair either...part of the game I guess... |
Sophie | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 09:33 am     The twist may not be a true fraud but as a viewer I FEEL defrauded. Each week I've had an emotional investment in the eviction. Mild in some cases and vehement in others. And...each week the person I've wanted to see evicted has been. Now I have to accept one of them back in the house? To see them get another chance at the grand prize? I feel cheated! I think it is patently unfair to the other HGs and while I don't expect a "rebellion" I wouldn't blame them for being very unhappy (and very vocal to BB in the DR) about the whole thing. |
Spunky | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 09:42 am     Marksman, I guess we agree to disagree...I stand beside those who agree with me... |
Kaili | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 09:36 pm     Maybe when Julie said there would be a HOH comp, it means the four evicted will be the ones competing in it. Whoever wins will be the one who goes back. It would be the most interesting way to do it because they would not be instantly nominated (not that they automatically would be anyway--many were "supposed" to stay anyhow---the decoys). There would be a lot of talking as well to catch them up and convince them of who needs to be nominated but they won't know who is lying because they haven't been there. |
Sam222 | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 09:42 pm     Earlier today when we had FOTH I think they talked to them more about the twist. They have talked about it and the returning player is not automatically HOH and receives no immunity. So that person could easily be put up right away, which depending on who it is and of course who HOH is could easily happen |
Bmh | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 09:44 pm     Hmmm..intersting Sam..well we will see |