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Archive through August 13, 2002
C1mag | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:25 pm     Keiff because this should have been Rods week to go and yet that other group is actually helping him stay. Thats power baby. By the way, Tonya was never one of his disciples. He worked to get her out over Josh. Eric was a shock but he quickly got Jason to apologize for doing it. Another sign of POWER. Who in hell apologizes for the game? Todays little fight was a definite show of manipulation on Roddys part. He's down but far from out! Forcing another player to not play the game is Power! Those of us who are watching can clearly see that Roddy is just too damn good at this game and will save his ass every time no matter who he is against. For him it's not even about using an alliance. It's all in the manipulation. It's diabolicle to watch. To hear the arrogance and to see them falling for it. He will always be one step ahead of the game. And for the record Gerry is a free agent so you can count him as a possible palyer for Roddy to use. Jason just can't nominate his buddy Roddy. Chiara has her mans back. Amy adored Roddy. Eric worshiped him. Lori is so damn ignorant she can be played beautifully! Tonya is Chiaras toy for the taking which basically makes her Roddys puppet to evict the other side of the house. Lisa will go with Eric. Roddy continues to have the power and the game. |
Txbb3fan | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:27 pm     If Eric does come in at this point, I don't think he will win. I believe he is the least likeliest of the four to re-enter the house and have a shot at it all. The person I would like to see re-enter the household would be Lori (and that's entirely based upon the fact that she doesn't know what's been going on....I would like to see them fight over her....LOL) And I'm sorry Bmh, I must respectfully disagree with you. Keeping Roddy in the game doesn't make it interesting. It makes it look like all of these people that proclaimed themselves such strong individuals in their lives who made it this far (in the game and in real life, they were judged on that) are rallying around a figure to catch coat-tails on to pull them around. If Roddy stays, Roddy will win because the others will say he played the best game (and I wouldn't be able to argue that). But if somebody else wants to win, their only chance is to get Roddy out now. JMO |
Keiffer | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:29 pm     You know the other thing I find funny is that because people percieve for some reason Roddy the biggest threat to Dan winning they are ready to just bend over defending Josh. Josh the guy who called Gerry and his wife terrible names for two weeks. Josh who the first five minutes in the house tried to get the group to vote out Marcy, then spent the last few weeks saying that it wasn't him that brought up Marcy's name (even though CBS on the TV showed this lie). Josh who shows no loyalty to anyone in the house, although claims he is the most truthful, and that is why he is up... LOL. I still believe that if Josh was up against Dan and she did what Roddy just did there would be about 100 YOU GO GIRL posts.... and you would be right to do it because Josh was just being asked to explain himself in front of the group were he couldn't use his half turths to protect himself because a person there would know the actual truth. |
C1mag | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:30 pm     Bmh there you go again thinking that the house would play this game like a scripted tv show. Amy would NOT nominate Roddy. She adored the man when she left. Chiara yes she would nominate along with Gerry. By the end of the week Gerry would probably go after Roddy did some damage control. Even if Chiara goes Roddy will have solidified another alliance. He's too damn good at the game. If you don't see his power then you would be out the door well before this guy even started packing to leave the house. |
Woodpecke® | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:31 pm     Roddy has the power, Roddy has the power, Roddy has the power, Roddy has the power, Roddy has the power, Roddy has the power, Roddy has the power, Roddy has the power, Roddy has the power, Roddy has the power, Roddy has the power, Roddy has the power, Roddy has the power, Roddy has the power. (You can say this until you are blue in the face, but he has no allies and he only succeeded in making himself public enemy numero uno on the most likely to be nominated next week list). |
Wendo | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:31 pm     Keiffer, how many times do we have to write it here for you to read it and understand. Several people in this thread have said that Roddy's TRUE strength is his ability to manipulate situations as well as the people he's with. Roddy doesn't need a "core" of people. He's able to do what he wants, get what he wants, all on his own. He has a way of planting seeds of doubt in people's mind on who's negative and who's not, days in advance, to set a clear target for eviction if he's not HOH. Look at the fight today and how it neutralized all the talk about his eviction as well as Josh's campaigning. He ensured Josh's eviction by reinforcing to the others that they cannot trust Josh. Do you really think it wasn't purposefull? And, I'll tell you this, he'll never admit to it, we won't see it in some DR entry. Why? Because Roddy still wants Josh's vote. I'm sure in his DR entry he was all lovey dovey to Josh. You've had MANY people answer you, you just refuse to accept it. Fine, your choice, but the question is getting old. |
Bmh | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:32 pm     C1mag there is one thing I disagree with..Roddy doesn't realize that Jason is actually playing him..Jason apoligized to Roddy to make Rod trust him..It is Jason's job to infiltrate R/C while D/M hang out..Jason has and will be with D till the end..Roddy seems very naive in the fact that He has Jason around his little finger..and believe me if Jason won HOH and Danielle told Jason to nominate Roddy he would..He would obviously go against Roddy before betraying Dani..so Jason would nominate his buddy Roddy if he had too..so Roddy's only manipulation that isn't working is on Jason..which is surprising but true..because what Roddy doesn't realize is that Danielle got to Jason first |
Txbb3fan | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:34 pm     Just because Dani's a girl doesn't mean that myself, or other women, are rooting for her. Dani has played under the radar but then again, that's getting harder and harder to do at this stage of the game. Roddy and Dani (I think) are the two major threats. (sorry to all the Jason fans ) But since Roddy gets himself out there more than Dani (yet again in my opinion) and has made more friends out of the evicted houseguests (yet again my opinion) I feel still that if Roddy doesn't go this week, that he will wind up the winner and Dani 2nd place. JMO Keiffer (I know I'm new and all so let me say, "Hello" as well....LOL ) |
Txbb3fan | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:37 pm     BTW Bmh, I posted part of that snippet of conversation between Dani & Jason earlier in this thread.... Dani & Jason were outside at the card table while Josh was playing BB by himself....Dani asked Jason if he'd made a promise to Roddy. Jason said "No." |
Keiffer | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:39 pm     C1mag, I like your points, and they could be argued I admit. However your quote: "It's diabolicle to watch. To hear the arrogance and to see them falling for it. He will always be one step ahead of the game" I think could be used to describe Dan as well. She does think she is the puppett master, and you know what she has been. Last week with the manipulation of the votes to expose Chiara like that, and then to use it perfectly to play Lisa into a frenzy against her best chance for the final three was Awesome! I don't begruddge Dan for playing well, why is Roddy called out? I know you will say he does it some sort of condecending way, but have any people seen Dan's DR statements? |
C1mag | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:41 pm     Hey keiff you bet there would praise for Dani if she had done that too Josh. She never campaigned to save Josh. She had no ties to the man in this game. She never vowed to play the game with him. Roddy actually campaigned to keep Josh in the game for his benefit knowing he was playing the game pretty harsh. Thats whats so diabolicle. Notice that Roddy will not mention the deals he has made with Josh because he knows the truth. That was the whole reason for announcing he must cork it. Also pointing out that Josh should be evicted because of what he said about Gerry and his family is now laughable. THEY ALL ALLOWED IT WHEN IT HAPPNED including Gerry. He didn't even nominate Josh last week. Nor did Roddy when he was hoh. This is why some of us are saying Roddy should go over Josh. Josh played the game hard. They all new it and wanted to use him. King Roddy got put on the block with him and all of a sudden Josh is to mean to stay? Makes no sense and it's disgusting to watch. No one has suppported what Josh has said and done, but given the chance to get rid of the better player over Josh is too obvious and if you don't take it then be prepared to lose this sucker. |
Woodpecke® | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:44 pm     King Roddy? He yelled at a guy that was already leaving, and he is now a King? You are really becoming dramatic C1Mag, but when Roddy leaves soon all this will make a lot more sense to you. |
Keiffer | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:45 pm     Wen, I know you keep saying that he can manipulate situations, and people so well, but if he is that good why in four weeks has he lost three of his six biggest supporters? At this rate he will either be gone, or have no one in two weeks on his side. |
C1mag | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:45 pm     Keiff you are missing my point this isn't a popularity contest with me where I like Roddy over Dani... Roddy is BRILLIANT at this game! That is why he must go! He's on the block so don't pass up the opportunity even with Josh standing in your way. Same would apply to Dani. If she were up on the block I'd say the logical choice is to boot her. She's the better player. Roddy arrived in the electric chair first. Therefore FRY the mofo! |
Txbb3fan | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:45 pm     I'm depressed....think I'm gonna pack my bags and storm out of this argument....wait. John talked me into staying. BTW, Danielle was just called to the DR.
Smiling makes the world a more wonderful place to be....most of the time anyway. |
Costacat | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:45 pm     There's that song again... "I'm your puppet..." |
Rain | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:45 pm     Wendo, you've just described many of the most successful people on this Earth. They know how to manipulate people and things, get things done, and stay on top, smelling like a rose. Human relationships are just plugged into the cold equations of their logic. The rest of us mortals may rebel against these type of guys--but they often end up on top of whatever game they choose to pursue. |
Wendo | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:46 pm     Keiffer said: "You know the other thing I find funny is that because people percieve for some reason Roddy the biggest threat to Dan winning they are ready to just bend over defending Josh." I've stated numerous times why I believe Roddy is a strong player and playing this game well. I'm not going to list them anymore because you choose not to see them. We respctively agree to disagree. As far as defending Josh, no one here has explicitly stated that they want Josh to win, or they're defending him. What most have said is Josh is pliable, someone who has burned so many bridges that he is unlikely to win this game if he were to stay. He is still useful as a fellow game player. "Josh the guy who called Gerry and his wife terrible names for two weeks. Josh who the first five minutes in the house tried to get the group to vote out Marcy, then spent the last few weeks saying that it wasn't him that brought up Marcy's name (even though CBS on the TV showed this lie). Josh who shows no loyalty to anyone in the house, although claims he is the most truthful, and that is why he is up... LOL." No one has excused Josh for his bad behavior. No one. And, he will have to deal with it at some point, as well as the consequences that result. In addition, I would argue that the last few days Josh has been the most honest to the HG's. But, he spun so many explanations and arguements they don't believe him. Many also feel resentment toward him. So, that serves your purpose too, an easy target as a future nominee. "I still believe that if Josh was up against Dan and she did what Roddy just did there would be about 100 YOU GO GIRL posts.... and you would be right to do it because Josh was just being asked to explain himself in front of the group were he couldn't use his half turths to protect himself because a person there would know the actual truth." First of all, I don't think Danielle would do it, she's just not playing the game that way. Second of all, how nice of you to speak for the rest of us. However, in the slim chance that Danielle did start a BashJoshFest like Roddy did today, my feelings would not be different. |
Twiggyish | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:47 pm     I have to hand it to you Keiffer you stick with it, even if the odds are against you. =) |
Minnyace01 | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:49 pm     Keiffer and Woodpecker - I think we all agree that Roddy is not in a power position at the moment. He is going to have to do a hell of a lot of work and get very lucky to pull this thing off. He did a great job today of pulling it out, but remember, if Josh doesn't screw up, Roddy's out. Don't think that they will not try to put up both Chiara and Roddy next week if they have the chance. Dani is still in the strongest position because of her alliances with numerous people. Her only threat is if Roddy gets HOH and thats a long shot. Roddy will need to get Dani out and see who comes running to him. Still has very long odds to win. |
Bmh | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:51 pm     Ok I have a question who is the ultimate player at this point in the game..Danielle or Roddy?..If they were on the block together who would survive..who would defeat the other???? |
Txbb3fan | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:51 pm     C1 > We are soooo totally on the same mindset right now. **high five** Wendo > ** High Five ** BTW, I still think Roddy's gonna be gone this week. (crossing fingers and toes) |
C1mag | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:51 pm     I hope your right Wood. The question still remains... Why not just despense of Roddy this week and never have to worry about his manipulation again? It's so easy! I just don't get it at all. This love hate thing with Josh is such a stupid ruse. Boot the better player and stop worrying about who would worship who. By the way wood even a king can lose his temper. Shoot look at what the queen, I mean marcellus did? Don't be so sure Roddy was yelling at a guy who was definitely leaving at that point. That was the key reason for all the anger. Roddy wasn't so sure Josh was leaving. |
Woodpecke® | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:52 pm     I was thinking earlier. When Josh was being nailed on his testicles by Roddy, Chiara, and Marcellus, he should have started making up all sorts of lies and elaborate scenarios that would have really confused the heck out of them. He could have said that Marcellus has already plotted with Danielle and Jason to kick Roddy out, tell Roddy that Chiara nominated him because she was afraid he would find out she was using him; any wild story that came into his brain. He had nothing to lose at that point, and it would have been hilarious to watch the look on their faces as he told crazy stories to mess with their uppity attitudes. |
Txbb3fan | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:53 pm     Bmh....ultimate player at this point in the game. I'm sorry. I would have to say they both are. But then when you count what you may think the evicted HG's vote may be, I'm willing to bet on.....Dani (But I'm not too sure that either one of them are going to be the winner though....saving my vote for a week.......) |
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