Goddess146 | Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:01 am     Honest PR professionals? Are you sure that is not an oxymoron? :-) |
Ryanc2002 | Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:03 am     PR professionals are human BS machines. ;-) |
Wcv63 | Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:03 am     But Ryan you were doing so well! |
Ryanc2002 | Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:05 am     WCV - Well thank you, but for some reason I can't wrap my brain around that one. I almost want to say that you can't sue someone for selling a crappy product but I could be wrong. |
Sushigirl | Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:08 am     I'm sorry but I have to give my . As a consumer I feel that I have been mislead and ripped off!!!! |
Ryanc2002 | Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:10 am     Sushi - Fine, you cancel and maybe get your money back, other than that I don't think you deserve any more. |
Goddess146 | Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:11 am     Kind of like being sold 3-day-old, unrefridgerated Sushi made by a Mexican chef. |
Wcv63 | Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:12 am     Bait and switch is an illegal form of advertising. So selling a crappy product isn't illegal but telling somebody in advertising they are getting one thing and then finding out that the actual product available is not the same one advertised is illegal. |
Ryanc2002 | Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:14 am     WCV - Ok, now I can argue. As I said They never said they wouldn't block out, in fact they've said the exact opposite. Misinterpretation of advertising isn't lawsuit material. |
Sushigirl | Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:15 am     Whoa Ryan!! Why are you jumping down my throat? I was just giving my opinion. I didn't mean to offend anyone. |
Sushigirl | Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:16 am     And another thing Ryan, I never ever said I deserved anything. |
Ryanc2002 | Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:16 am     Sushi - Sorry, didn't mean to sound like I was jumping down your throat. I wasn't trying to, honest! |
Ryanc2002 | Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:18 am     Sushi - Sorry, I assumed that you were on the Lets sue CBS/APS bandwagon. You know what they say about assuming. |
Wcv63 | Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:18 am     But the television advertising didn't match the product Ryan. It's like seeing an ad for 24' RCA color tv with built in dvd player for 199.99 being sold at ACME. You go to ACME to buy that product. They say, that is sold out BUT we have this really nice 24" Sony color TV for 240.00 and it's much better. If ACME didn't have the product in stock that they were advertising...it's called bait and switch. Illegal. |
Goddess146 | Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:19 am     Try? There is no TRY. There is only DO. :-) Sorry. I could not resist. Please note the :-) |
Ryanc2002 | Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:19 am     Wcv - I'm afraid I disagree. I don't think they ever promised uncut feeds. |
Sushigirl | Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:21 am     Ryan, No problem. It's forgotten.  |
Wcv63 | Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:22 am     If they use the word "unrestricted" in the tv advertisment that is misleading and could be considered "bait" to get the viewer to the site to order the feeds. |
Lurknomore | Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:23 am     Goddess and Ryan...sorry you guys have never met decent PR people. But some of us have made successful careers BECAUSE we don't feed folks caca. The truth has gotten me stories that no line of bs could touch. |
Ryanc2002 | Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:25 am     Wcv - Only if the viewer interprets unrestricted to mean uncut. Also, any user who viewed the feeds saw the disclaimer saying the could and would cut, if they had a problem with possible cuts they could've called Real and said "Sorry, I changed my mind." |
Goddess146 | Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:28 am     Lurk, I was just kidding. I have worked with some excellent and honest PR and marketing people. One thing is clear, the customers of honest PR and marketing are generally much more satisfied than the customers of the CBS/ASP type marketing and PR. The fact that CBS/ASP has so many unhappy customers is prima facia evidence of their dishonesty and fraud. |
Wcv63 | Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:29 am     True Ryan but the ORIGINAL ad would still have to be defended. Even if you get to ACME store and choose not to buy the higher priced product that doesn't mean that they advertisement isn't illegal. |
Ryanc2002 | Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:30 am     So just because a lot of people misinterpreted or misunderstood it's obvious that there was wrongdoing? I point you to the 2000 presidential election. |
Wcv63 | Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:31 am     Ahhh....but "unrestricted" can not be misinterpreted. It has a clear meaning. |
Goddess146 | Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:32 am     Putting on my smoking jacket, lighting a cigar and assuming by best Roddy pose: Bringing up the 2000 Presidential election is a "strawman" argument. |