Roddy Threatening Jay?
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Roddy Threatening Jay?
Jagger | Friday, August 09, 2002 - 08:03 am     My take on Jason and Roddy is that Jason is playing Roddy and Roddy knows it but he is not letting on to it yet. I also think Jason knows Roddy will no longer trust him, just as Jason will no longer trust Roddy. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Roddy convinced Chiera to put Jason up against Josh this week and attempt to get him out of the house. I think Roddy now knows that Jason is the main competition in the house and he will have to get rid of him. |
Dee723 | Friday, August 09, 2002 - 08:08 am     Well, I think Roddy also knows that his goose is cooked if someone other than Josh or Chiara get HOH again. I hope his manipulating/controlling days in that house are numbered. I personally can't stand to even watch him on the live feeds. He makes my skin crawl. |
Maris | Friday, August 09, 2002 - 08:17 am     Roddy's shellshocked look last night was priceless. It was the first time I can remember Roddy going off to a bedroom to lick his wounds. He didnt understand what went down. He has such an inflated view of himself intellectually that he just could not conceive that he may have been played by one of the less superior beings in the house. That he got duped by Jason, Dani and Marcellas the three people he put on the back burner as non-entities was just perfect. I look forward to seeing how Roddy spins his wheels today. It really will be like watching hampsters running around their wheels. |
Wendo | Friday, August 09, 2002 - 08:30 am     Earthmother, I agree that Dan and Rod are playing very similar games. However, Roddy is way more blantant and threatening about it. Danielle doesn't talk down to her minions the way Roddy does. Hey, delivery is part of the game too. In fact, when she talks it's more pursuasion. She does it in such a way that the other person feels they came to the conclusion/decision. Not her. And that's a major difference between their game playing. |
Nutsy | Friday, August 09, 2002 - 08:34 am     Maris - I thought so too! Roddy looked positively ashen, it was great! |
Fix2scream | Friday, August 09, 2002 - 08:44 am     Okay, Danielle warned Mar and Jason that they were going to have to start playing the game. Jason got up to bat and they (Chi and Rod) let him walk. They still don't know how they're going to pitch to Mar. I think it's time Dan steps up to the plate and takes some too. She can't hide in the dug out for long. |
Jaysgal | Friday, August 09, 2002 - 08:47 am     Earthmother, I tend to agree with you. However, I would still say that there's a big difference between the two. Roddy is an actual tactical leader. Danielle on the other hand is a leader-wannabe. Danielle has no real followers. Her only true follower is Jason. Danielle does not have the drive and gift of choosing followers. Contrary to such, Roddy does have the drive, and he does know how to select followers that will do things he orders them to. Roddy basically would make a perfect leader for weak-minded people (i.e. sects). He actually has the skill. Danielle does not have that kind of skill. She likes to pretend she does with the way she speaks, though. I do agree with you to some extent that people seem less worried when it's a woman. But then again, Nicole was evil like Roddy and most people didn't like her. I for one don't like Danielle. I find her irritating with her pretenses. Although she is not as powerful as Roddy, she is just as pathetic. It would be nice to see the game go well with drama and all without her in it. Oh well! LOL! That's just my opinion. Sometimes opinions change. |
Maris | Friday, August 09, 2002 - 08:47 am     I think Dani stepped up to the plate by talking to Lisa. If I was a betting person I would have said that Dani would put someone else up to telling Lisa all. She has put herself out there to Lisa and has let Lisa know that she is a leader. If Lisa stays with Dani then she has a pretty strong alliance. |
Niceguy | Friday, August 09, 2002 - 08:49 am     Last night during the show Jason pulled something of a Monica. He let everyone know that he was a threat. Remember when Monica said last year that she said, "it gets harder and harder and I expect it will get harder and harder the longer and longer I'm here." That is the implied threat to the others that they won't be. I think it was a personal message to the folks back in Alabama that 'I'm in this to win this.' I don't remember the exact quote but it was to the effect of, "When I'm here in the last week." It was funny but the tension and anxiety in the room was thick. |
Fix2scream | Friday, August 09, 2002 - 09:03 am     I do remember something about that. Was it when Julie asked about him winning the letter from home and he said it gave him the strength to stay and win the money? They all looked at him like he was crazy, I thought anyway. |
Earthmother | Friday, August 09, 2002 - 09:22 am     Wendo..She has the gift of being a mother. Mothers learn how to talk to children and reason. They tend to take the emotional approach when tring to get what they want. Fathers tend to use the strong upper hand approach..IMO Jaysgal..I guess we see it differently. I see the support as being: Roddy--Chiara, Josh (who when he realizes is on a sinking ship will throw himself overboard and swim to the other camp) Dani--Jason, Marc, Gerry and now possibly Lisa Roddy and Dani are the leaders of each side right now, but once one of them is gone, I think the peons (so to speak) will start a revolution to rid the kingdom of the heirarchy. Will was not the alpha in last years show and if either Roddy or Dani happen to make it to the finals it will all depend on who they take with them. |
Becca | Friday, August 09, 2002 - 09:24 am     First of all through most of this, I did think where does Roddy get off? Jason is a nice guy, but he never ONCE said I'm not playing the game. He never told people this. Second, he never gave Roddy his word that he would vote out Lisa. He implied that he was leaning towards it but he never promised, and if I ewre Jason I'd mention it. I never gave you my word. Notice how Roddy is quick to say this is someone's word, but always makes excuses for his own. How many final three scenarios have you brought up with other people. Im also angry to hear Roddy say, Eric would have kept you save Jay. Like Jason is some come of pet to be kept save. Eric would have to a point, and the point would have ended if the final five was Jason, Eric, Lisa, Roddy, and Chiara. Or even a little before then. Roddy is angry because it's in Roddy's best interest to keep Eric around, but it was not in Jasons. In Roddy's mind obviously being in an alliance means doing whatever he says, mindlessly. He just found out that Jason wasn't a mindless follower, so I think Jay is in trouble. However, Rod still has no clue just how many allies Jay has. Rod lied so much to Jay. |
Avrey258 | Friday, August 09, 2002 - 09:30 am     This is sort of off topic but I see Marcellas as a loose cannon. I think that while he likes Danielle, there may be a little animosity there because of Danielle's "I need the money speech". I wonder if Marcellas has any true alliances? |
Aria | Friday, August 09, 2002 - 09:59 am     Okay, I only have one question now..... Which side is Eric going to choose if he gets back in there? Oh I hope it is him, cuz then it will get really nuts! |
Earthmother | Friday, August 09, 2002 - 10:04 am     Deep down Avrey, I think Marc's alliance is with Gerry. He is just doing everything he can not to give it away. I think Marc keeps them all going about Gerry so they think they are all in agreement that if necessary they can vote Gerry out, but no need to right now since there are bigger fish to fry. I may be wrong, but I just have this gut feeling. |
Jaysgal | Friday, August 09, 2002 - 10:13 am     I hope that you are right about Marcellas, Earthmother. Honestly, Marcellas is almost my number one favourite. Jason was my number one before, but now I'm afraid Marcellas is above him. My only worry is if Marcellas really means what he's saying now. I hope you are right that he does not mean it. See, that's what I was trying to say about Danielle only having one follower. Marcellas is not a follower. Unlike Jason's relationship with Danielle, Marcellas makes it clear that he [Marcellas] has equal power in suggestions and reaching an agreement. That is very different from how willing Jason seems to take whatever Danielle suggests. That is why I say that Marcellas is not a follower. He is not a disciple of Danielle. Anyway, I really hope that he is still committed to Gerry. My only worry is that when he pushes so much about Gerry, he's inciting a response to his wish. They say, be careful what you pray for because you just might get it. |
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