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TV ClubHouse: Archives: Archive One: Intellectually who is smarter at this game, Roddy or Danielle....: Archive through August 04, 2002

Kittykatt

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 02:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am going to love watching these two dual it out!!! :):):)

Cliotheleo

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 02:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Danielle ......... because the only people who realize how smart she is are the viewers......... the houseguests seem to have no clue. Roddy wears his leadership on his sleeve, makes himself too much of a target.

Battlestar

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 02:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
actually---Gerry is the intellectually smartest person in the house.

Jaysgal

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 02:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Intellectually, I think Roddy is smarter. He knows how to screen his subjects. He got the ones that would do anything that he requested of them. He also has intellectual knowledge that allows him to play like smarty, best educated guy.

However, Danielle just makes believe. It is all in her mind. She has not troops or actual advantage over other players.

You guys keep saying that no one has figured her out. Marcellas knew she was playing him and others long ago. On last night's shw, Gerry noted how Danielle plays different character roles with each house guest. He noted that she acted ghetto with Marcellas, played the parent appeal with Gerry, and then acted like a parent to the girls (i.e., Lisa and Chiara). I don't think that observation was for nothing. I think the reason Gerry did not nominate her was because in his view, Danielle has no actual strength. It's like having a counterfeit money, hence worth nothing ultimately.

Bmh

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 02:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Gerry is book-smart..but he does not have a whole lot of common sense..and lacks good people skills
Roddy is very smart..but doesn't hide it well

I think Danielle is the smartest..booksmart/streetsmart/commonsense she has all 3..and that makes her smartest..plus she hides her intelligence will in front of the other houseguest..like Cliotheleo

Curlyq

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 02:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I see Danielle as the smarter player, because Roddy's made some serious errors in judgment so far. He shouldn't have tried for HOH so soon, shouldn't have joined any obvious alliances, and shouldn't have let himself get bound by a ball-and-chain. He also should've tried hiding his intelligence like Eric rather than flaunting it. At this point I really don't see what he's done right, except schmooze Amy so that she wouldn't hold her eviction against him. He's good at scoring brownie points with the jury, but it won't do him any good if he winds up on the jury himself.

So far Danielle has managed to be underestimated by many of them and the only one who seems really out to get her so far is Roddy himself. She plays a dangerous game, but they still don't seem to be onto her true alliance.

Battlestar

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 02:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gerry has experince smart---just try surving in a teacher's lounge of a middle school for a day. It is full of vultures and hyenas. The ppower struggle between teachers is more then this house or any playground will ever see.

Plus he has to deal with parents!!!! and special-ed kids too.

Bmh

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 02:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gerry really isn't as smart as you think..he doesn't have alot of common sense..I mean he went up to danielle this morning telling her that all his black friends are all gay and that Marcellas is very flamboyant..and is like his gay black friends...and by the way danielle looked at him..she was not happy..he seems to stereotype people..and does not know how to talk to certain people..I think before he came in here he was a little racist..but he vetoed Marcie trying to show everyone that he wasn't..they guy may be booksmart..but Im surprised that he is a teacher..cuz he really has problems communicating with people

Lilacs04

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 02:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
CurlyQ-- I don't think Eric is "hiding" his intelligence! ;)

Wcv63

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 02:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Filelocking!!! *^&*^&*^*&^

Being intellectual does not equate to being more intelligent.

Roddy appears more intellectual but has actually emotion to paint him into a corner. He also has used his intellect in an attempt to intimidate. Not smart IMO. No one likes being condescended to or patronized. Roddy is so intent on being a leader that he doesn't allow his allies to think for themselves. He's also far more willing to ditch his allies.

Dani is more focused and has chosen her allies better. She also relies more heavily on her allies and each has an assigned role. This makes the group a more cohesive unit.

Jan

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 03:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree 100% with you wcv.

Toolhound

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 03:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think roddy is the smartest but has let everyone know it so that is going to hurt him. I think Danielle is the smartest player she took the time to read all the people in the house before picking her pawns. I think Gerry is an old hippy that his parents got tired of paying for him to go to college and not be able to figure out what he wanted to be when he grew up.

Gritss

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 03:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
IQwise, I would think Gerry is highest, Roddy next. Or vice-versa. Eric and Chiarra lowest. But that doesn't have much to do with winning this game.

BB2 was won by arguably the brightest HG, but BB1 wasn't.

Alaginger

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 03:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Jason is the smartest. He has Danielle pulling for him, and she is smart. He has Roddy pulling for him, and he is smart. Meanwhile, he just stays under the radar.

Snee

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 03:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
wow, toolhound--how did you pick that up about gerry?

Battlestar: 'Gerry has experince smart---just try surving in a teacher's lounge of a middle school for a day. It is full of vultures and hyenas. The ppower struggle between teachers is more then this house or any playground will ever see.'

i have to say "wow" again. battlestar, i know all about the politics, but vultures and hyenas? not the staffs i've been on...and i disagree about the playgrounds too. i definitely agree with you about having to be 'smart' about dealing with parents, though...and, in my case, 12 year olds! anyway, gerry's experience smarts can only take him so far because he's not in either alliance. he's a wild card, which can be good, but if he doesn't play it exactly right, he could be OUT!

roddy is good, but he's been playing above the radar which i don't think is smart. he is smart enough to realign himself though, and i think he'll do that. that could make all the difference for him now.

danielle has been stealthy so far, although people are starting to catch on to her too.

now, quiet jason? letting dani do the work for him? he might turn out to be the most strategic of them all!

Zeyna

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 03:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Intellectually, Roddy is "smarter" than anyone there, except possibly Jason because he also seems very bright, but is more on the quiet side.

In terms of the game, I don't think that Roddy and Dani are that different. Their approach is different, but both are manipulators. Who is more successful at it remains to be seen. But even then, I would not say that one is better or worse based on when each is evicted. They are not totally in charge of their destiny, because so many other factors are at play.

Violet

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 03:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Danielle is BRILLIANT!!

She's got Kiki & Lisa thinking they are "girl power" till the end.

She's got Jason & Marcellus thinking they are the three musketeers (are they really??).

She's got the rest of the house really underestimating her abitilies to manipulate this game.

She is reaaaalllly playing it!

Sheila494

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 03:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I dont know that danielle is intellectually smarter but she is certainly people smart..but i believe that marc and gerry will wise up to her very soon and she will be on her way back home..hopefully.

Jan

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 03:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am not sure why Marci should wise up to Dani. She is going to get him to at least the final 3 if not the final 2.

Marksman

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 03:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You are all wrong.

Marcellas is the smartest.

I didn't believe it either. :)

Amac

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 04:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know if Jason is playing the game the smartest, but he is definitely playing the game the best because as far as can tell he is the only HG not to make enemies, be a target or a threat, having people catch on to his strategy, etc. etc. Looks like all the reality TV he watched before entering the house may pay off for him (to the tune of $500,000).

I do think between Roddy and Dani, Dani is playing the better game, with flaws as pointed out in this thread.

Maryk

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 04:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Danni is definitely on top now. But I think Jason will win in the end, IMO. But you will only know 9 weeks from now who really is the smartest! :)

Snee

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 04:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
marce is certainly very perceptive, but i'm not sure he is wiley enough. i would love for him to kick their raggedy little butts though!

Wcv63

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 04:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Zeyna introduced a very important factor into this discussion. Luck. You can be smart. You can be intellectual. You can be intelligent. But without luck on your side you can still lose.

Cliotheleo

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 04:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, I'm getting a bit aggravated at the (albeit small) amount of Danielle bashing that I've been seeing lately. Well, it's not REALLY bashing, but it's obvious that some posters don't like her. I don't get it. So, in addition to what I said above here's my list of why I think Danielle is playing the best game so far.

1. To my knowledge there's not a single person in the house who dislikes her or is trying to get rid of her. Roddy's got at least 3 people trying to get rid of him.

2. She's got alliances with both sides. The fake alliance with the girls is somewhat common knowledge to the house. The REAL alliance with Jason seems to have gone unnoticed.

3. SHE is driving this alliance with Jason (and to a lesser degree with Marcellas.) SHE is the one pushing the strategy. SHE'S in control (unless of course, Jason's got me totally snowballed by LETTING Danielle be in control, therefore TRULY being the one who's in control.)

Now, will those of you who dislike her, explain to me WHY? I don't get it. How can anyone not LOVE this woman!!! :)