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Jadebutterfly

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with C1mag. Dani is as obsessed the the game as Josh is. She's just less abrasive and USUALLY knows when to shut up. She does seem to be losing her cool a bit and is starting to make rash decisions. Marcellus needs to hang in there.

Foodbunny

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"She tried every tactic including that Roddy isn't a man of God."

Wow. I haven't really felt any strong feelings towards any of the houseguests at all this year but if Danielle really did say that then she is an incredibly loathesome human being in my opinion. Wow.

Chancesdesign

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It seems like Marcie's dislike of Gerry has been growing. At first it seemed like he at least felt like he owed Gerry because of the veto and therefore had some kind of a bond and loyalty with him. Maybe M has been busy convincing himself that he would have been "safe" even without Gerry, so that he could abandon any loyalty he felt toward Gerry. Then he could say and feel whatever he wanted about Gerry without feeling bad.

Bmh

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree..I will not defend Dani in this instance..because she shouldn't have told Marcie to walk..

BUT....what does Marcie talk about constantly???......walking out..and today he went overboard..and I really dont think Dani meant it just to get rid of him for her own good..he was hurt and he really wanted to leave..Dani supported him..

Bridgetlovesbb

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
<<Marcellas will have headlines "The Traumatic Childhood of a Loving Man". "Why I'm Gay".>>
LOL jaysgal!!!

In my honest opinion, Marc is being ridiculous!! Why does it all always boil down to being Gerry's fault with him?? Geez!! UGH! And Dani was so insensitive to keep going on with the "i'll support you if you want to leave" crap!

Avery

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree, I think that Marc is so clouded by his disgust of Gerry as a person, that it is impossible for him to ever justify that Gerry helped him out. Do many/most of us think that first week, if Gerry hadn't used the veto, Marc would be gone?

Moedog

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As the saying goes, "A little power is a dangerous thing". Dani got a taste of her power when Eric walked out the door. Now she's a woman obsessed. She really went low with "Roddy isn't a man of God", though. Who does she think she is? A Crusade of one? Slay the heathen? That one really PO'd me. After some of the stunts she's pulled lately, I definitely don't want to see her in the money.

Marc needs to hear from a few more that when he was put up originally, they didn't know him. Now they like him and appreciate him for the person he is. Gag! Enough with the histrionics, Marc and Josh!

Jadebutterfly

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It always boils down to being Gerry's fault because it's easier to blame someone than accept the truth or take responsibility. (that could be said for virtually ALL the HG's in regard to Gerry) Would M still be in the game if G hadn't vetoed him? PROBABLY not. Does he owe G a debt of gratitude for all eternity? That's between the two of them. But at the very least, M should quit with the awful, nasty remarks, quit complaining and play the game.

Chancesdesign

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
M just said something like, "I don't think what he did was for me, it was just a way to grandstand."

IMO, it looks like he is still trying to justify his lack of gratitude toward Gerry.

I think that if he doesn't like Gerry, that is just the way it is. You don't have to like someone, even if they do things that help you out. But I think that Marci feels deep down that he should appreciate Gerry for what he did. I think he is on a major guilt trip.

Ellenkats

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Of course, Roddy would consider that a compliment ("not a man of G-d")

Bmh

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ya guys stop freaking out..Roddy is an atheist..he doesn't believe in god..that was what Dani was inplying

Ellenkats

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
tangent: everytime someone on the boards refers to Rod as G-d, I can't help but agree, thinking 'well, he's no mentsch.' Of course, I am mean. :-( (hanging head in shame)

Foodbunny

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It sure sounds like she was implying that he's not a man of his word BECAUSE he's an atheist. And I find that extremely offensive.

Moedog

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whether Roddy would appreciate it or not isn't relevant. He wasn't privy to the conversation anyway. For Dani to use such a tactic merely reveals her to be a religious bigot. Pathetic.

Has Marc stopped whining yet?

C1mag

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Avery I've always fealt that Gerry saved his ass point blank! Marc would have been gone. He didn't even have Danis vote. She promised it too Lori and made it clear even after their fight over Gerrys hand washing problems that even though she thought Lori was crackers that she was still not going to evict her. Tonya said that she was going to vote to save Marcellus only because she couldn't stand Lori and Chiara said she thought maybe she might change to keep marcellus. Although I doubt in the end she would have given what she pulled this last week. But I definitely think Gerry is the only reason Marc's is in this game. I've never understood why Marcellus hasn't wanted to embrace the gesture. He has too remember this is a game and if you find one strong supporter no matter who it is just use it and move on to the next level. No one is gonna force Marc to marry the man just use him like he wants to use you. It's sort of that Rich and Ruddy thing. They probably didn't really care for one another but they needed each other to get to the end.

Sanfranjoshfan

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Dani was implying that not being a man of god was a flaw....otherwise why would a god fearing woman point that out at all?

Ellenkats

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sanfran -- I don't think it would surprise anyone for a christian to think being a christian was better than not being a christian. I need a quick copy/paste function for that word.

Sanfranjoshfan

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ellencat - I agree. :-)

Bmh

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
yes I agree Ellenkats..my mom for that matter..is very biased against people that dont believe in God..It is a normal thing..stop bashing Dani for making a statemnet most christian women would make

Gina8642

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I haven't read anything in this thread, but I did watch what went down.

My response? Marc needs to toughen up! Josh was telling the turth as he understood it. He wasnt' trying to hurt Marc. He was just telling the truth.

Marc is nearly as cluless are reading people as Lisa and Eric were. He really isn't being very perceptive.

Squaredsc

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i thought roddy was a self proclaimed athiest(sp), which would me he's not a man of god, right?

Foodbunny

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Stop bashing Danielle for saying it's ok to lie to someone because they're an atheist? NEVER. Screw her, if she wants people to lie to Roddy then say it's for the game, don't make it a freakin' religious issue. That's an unforgivable statement.

Foodbunny

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Danielle didn't just say "Roddy is not a man of god" out of the blue. She was trying to talk Gerry into breaking his word and voting Roddy out. Gerry said "well, Roddy is a man of his word". Danielle asked him "Do you know that?" and Gerry responded "I don't know". THAT'S when the "Roddy is not a man of god" comment came up.

She's saying "oh, you don't have to keep your word to him, he's just an atheist". Don't make a religious issue out of the freakin' game. If people were trying to talk Gerry into breaking his word to Jason because he's Christian everyone would be screaming at the top of their lungs, but it's somehow ok to break your word with Roddy because he doesn't shaer the majority opinion.

Bmh

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH..I misunderstood what Dani said..thank you for clearing that up Foodbunny...I understand now..ya she shouldn't have done that..she is really going all out hardcore gameplaying..but that wasn't right..no matter what religion Roddy is..

Cameltoes

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry but I am an atheist and if people in my family who are christian said something like that to me or about me I would be pissed. Even if "most" feel that way doesn't make it right.