Is Roddy losing interest in the game?
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Zeyna | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 01:37 pm     Has anyone else noticed that Roddy is not scheming nearly as much as he did before? In the past couple of days, he's almost avoided strategy talks and often changes the topic when they begin. I don't know if it's simply due to the nomination, but I was expecting him to start recruitment upon Eric's departure. Any thoughts? |
Wcv63 | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 01:40 pm     Zeyna he is so worried about some of his "behind the scenes" activities being exposed prior to the eviction that he is avoiding strategy talks and either stopping them or spinning them. I guess he fears that he could be evicted if the extent of his involvement in all the "misinformation" comes to light. |
Oregonfire | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 01:43 pm     I think Roddy realized that he's human, he doesn't have everything under control, and that those whom he previously thought he controlled--Chiara and Jason, even Lisa--are no longer under his thumb. Plus he lost his right hand man Eric and is up for eviction, a stressful event no matter what. I think the wind has been taken out of his sails big time. Maybe he'll pull it together in a few days. He seems...subdued. Talk about a reversal of fortune! |
Cathie | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 01:43 pm     He and KiKi were talking strategy in bed for about 20 minutes this morning. One of the things he told her surprised me, but I didn't watch the feeds after 10pm last night so maybe this did happen (?) but Roddy told Chiara that Dani approached him and wanted to know if they could make a deal, that they wouldn't put each other up or vote each other out. He told KiKi that he told Dani he was sorry but he couldn't commit to that. KiKi was surprised and really curious about the conversation, who started it, etc., (he says Dani did). Did this really happen or is he trying to stir things up between Dani and KiKi? |
Cathie | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 01:44 pm     Forgot to add, he told KiKi it would be in her best interests not to mention anything about this to Dani... |
Wcv63 | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 01:46 pm     My guess Cathie (and it is a guess because I don't know if this happened or not) is that Roddy is trying to get Chiara to doubt Dani's loyalty. He has noticed Chiara getting closer to Dani and everytime he notices Chiara getting close to somebody he says or does something to place doubt and suspicion in her mind. |
Foodbunny | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 01:48 pm     What do the people in the house hate most about Josh? He can't stop playing the game. He can't stop eavesdropping and talking strategy and making deals and PLAYING THE GAME. So what does Roddy do? Stop playing the game, just chill out and be nice to everyone. Let Josh dig his own grave, so to speak. |
Cathie | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 01:49 pm     That's what I was thinking, too, Wcv, especially when he said not to mention this to Dani, lol... |
Earthmother | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 01:55 pm     I think he's losing interest in Chiara..I had my best laugh of the morning when they were talking in bed. He's talking about a girl he camped with in Alaska and she doesn't say "what happened to her, did you date her, did a bear eat her?" She says "Was she cute?" This guy can't have a reasonably normal conversation with this girl. |
Teresah2000 | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 02:16 pm     maybe is really wants to be eveicted, so maybe BB will send him to Cancun too!! |
Lulu | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 02:25 pm     Zeyna, right after the noms and Josh freaking out Roddy made everyone agree not to discuss the game this week at all - I'm sure so Josh wouldn't spill too much about Rod and turn the vote against him. They still talk of course but Roddy keeps reminding them that they promised not to. |
Silksmoke | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 02:31 pm     I agree with you Earthmother, I think he decided some time ago that Chiara was a liability to him, and has been trying to distance himself physically from her, yet still trying to manipulate her actions. Also he sees how an emotional or aggressively campaigning nominee can be percieved as being obnoxious by the other houseguests. He's laying low, and banking on more fireworks from Josh. JMO |
Lurknomore | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 02:50 pm     I don't disagree with most of the opinions here, and I have another one to offer. I think he is reeling from both the nomination by someone he thought was TOTALLY under his control, Jason's perceived lack of loyalty for not voting exactly and precisely like the great and mighty Rodster wanted, and other chinks in his King of the house armour. In other words, I think he is felt he was 100% in control of the house, the hampsters, their votes and in effect the entire game. I think his self-perceived superiority was shook to it's misguided roots. So I think he is trying to regroup and rethink his plan, and not rock the boat while doing it. |
Gritss | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 02:54 pm     I agree 100% with Lurk.. Was exactly what I was going to write. Roddy just woke up to the fact he wasn't the puppetmaster for the house. |
Jhezzie | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 03:05 pm     Yeah. Roddy's been hit in the back of the head with the Board Of Reality. |
Jaysgal | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 03:07 pm     Lurkmore, I would agree. However, you would first have to explain why he seemed disinterested in discussing nominations with Chiara even before Chiara made her decision. He was usually working her all day, but suddenly she has the power and he doesn't seem interested in persuading her. Why didn't he seem interested in clarifying things to know where she stood days before her decision? That is the part that I'm having trouble with because the whole problem began then. And your scenario does not explain the foundation. Perhaps you can help because it still strikes me as strange. Let's hope BB didn't drug Roddy or something. :Q LOL! |
Mollywood | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 03:07 pm     Lurk, i also agree, i think <Chiara's> nomination really got him in his gut, because i think he was barely tolerating her as it is. mr. "i want everyone to like me" is in the tuff spot, he looks like a bad guy if he gets rid of her, and with his superior intellect, hes figured out what a big liability and drag she is becoming. I would love to see Lisa and Roddy get together, and since everyone puts everyone down, am i the only one who notices that big hole in roddys hair in the back? (cw) |
Wendo | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 03:09 pm     Actually, I don't think he has stopped playing the game at all. One thing about Roddy is he plays very subtlely. He picks a target and starts slowly dropping little negative tidbits about them to get everyone else to start not trusting them. He did it with Amy and he's done it with Josh. IMO, Danielle is his next target and if he gets HOH, then he will put her up, mark my words. In addition, if he doesn't get HOH, he'll use this (fake) info about Dani and tell it to whoever IS HOH. The one thing I've been doing more is listen to Roddy. He's very slippery and sly but you can see his strategy. |
Penpoint | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 03:17 pm     Maybe Roddy is the Mole! |
Lurknomore | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 03:17 pm     Jaysgal, the Roddy I saw worked his usual manipulation of Chiara, cept this time it didn't work. Perhaps you missed the conversations first where she first brought up nominating him with Gerry in the room (the look on his face was priceless), and followed by his conversation with her about it after Ger left. He played her like usual, after a stunning but brief flash of anger. He said he would never put her up, but she should do what she wanted. He assumed this would be enough to save his fanny, but when it wasn't he worked her some more. He told her he didn't feel comfortable about it, that he was hurt by her doing it, he reminded her that when he suggested putting her up and she said she didn't want it he promised he wouldn't (he actually looked genuinely sad and hurt when he said that to her). He went on and and and it fell on deaf ears. If anything Chiara dug her heels in more. So I don't see that he wasn't interested in persuading her. He simply was unable to. Clarified enough?  |
Jaysgal | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 03:27 pm     That was last minute though. As far as I remember, he usually discusses evictions or nominations with her way before last minute. How would he have expected a last minute change of heart with her? It seemed unusual to me that he waited until last minute to discuss her strategy. Or do I have it wrong about timing? |
Earthmother | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 03:30 pm     She has complained about him talking to her in a condescending manner recently. She mentioned that he tries to make her feel like she isn't smart when really she just isn't interested. Maybe she believes this will work and then can show him "see I'm not a dumb as you think I am." If it backfires then she blame it on the lying, backstabbing, snipes she has poured out her soul to and trusted,but I truly doubt she will take the blame for any of it. |
Lurknomore | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 03:30 pm     If my memory is right it was pretty early on after she got HoH. I'm almost positive it was the day before noms. Anyone with a good memory or patience to check LF's? lol. If anything, I was surprised that he backed down so easily and didn't work her more about not wanting to go up on the block. But I think she made it clear her mind was made up. I still think he was SOOO stunned by all of this he just went into sulk mode. And I doubt it seriously entered his mind he could lose to Josh anyways, so he just was blown away by what happened and licking his perceived betrayal wounds. I think he would have worked harder if he felt there was ANY chance he would be voted out. |
Mollywood | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 03:35 pm     I was as stunned as Roddy. Could C be an evil genius? I pray shes that..it give her a redeming quality |
Toolhound | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 03:43 pm     First his best friend in the house is gone and then the only person in the house who thinks he is God is leaving. Along with the girl you thought he was in total control over put him up for nomination. Oh yeah the other guy he was shure he could trust voted to keep Lisa over Eric. I think he needs some time to regroup. Maybe time to put plan B into effect. |
Fungii | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 03:49 pm     I think the reasoning behind Roddy 'letting' Chiara put him up is that he's been trying to extricate himself from this 'relationship' with her, but he can't put her up without looking like a jerk. He's gambling that if he manages to get through this week without getting evicted, he has a perfect excuse to put Chiara up, 'Hey, you did it to me'. Being subdued and not playing the game is a good strategy, let Josh hang himself. |
Gritss | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 03:57 pm     Molyw, I don't think so. On an intellect basis, I put ChiaXXX only behind Tonya. She doesn't have the brains to be an Evil Genius. IMO. |
Pinky780 | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 04:06 pm     Remember that Marc said it best: "the decoy always goes". Roddy probably is coupling that with the fact that Eric went when Roddy didn't think he would. He probably also has to see that Chiara is a liability he associated himself with, and that, in the course of a week, the other HGs could realize this is the best chance to get him out and retaliate against her. If Josh came straight out to tell Lisa and Marc what had been done and said about them, Roddy has to be wondering what they are discussing behind their (R & C)back. He is probably scared and has chosen to take the same approach that Marc (the only decoy who was able to remain) chose: just shut up and lay low. Funny, but if he does stay, I can see him "getting Chiara back" by putting her up using the same logic she used on him. |
Mollywood | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 04:16 pm     Gritts, probably not, but she did say in dr that she thought it would be good to put him up to show they arent an alliance. but i think its more a case of, "if i talk constantly some bit of strategy might fall out" like the monkey typing analgy. has anyone discussed who is the best person to have at the end cause no one will like them..kind of backfired in bb2. |
Sherbear | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 04:16 pm     Roddy has discussed some of his disatisfaction on a few occasions. I know he said some things to Dani. He told Lisa not to hold to much with her relationship in the house they may not be in place after the show. I think this is telling. Along with his statements about Chiara, saying to one of the guys image taking her home to meet my parents, in a derisive tone. Perhaps a cast party one nighter, and that is that, if that. |
Gritss | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 04:57 pm     Molly, yes a few of the HGs have talked about the end game early on. Specifically D & J, and R & E. By now, even the less astute ones must be starting to think about it. |
Zeyna | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 07:49 pm     Thaks for all the responses. I'm hoping that if Roddy stays the strategizing continues. At this point, I don't see him going much further in the game without regrouping and making some new plans. And if he leaves, hopefully they'll give him his wish and send him to Alaska instead of the Caribbean. |
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