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Foodbunny

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, I just got clarification that Gerry is the one who said it but it doesn't change the fact that it's a despicable justification for a game move and that Danielle let it slide disgusts me to my core. I don't want either one of those two to win.

C1mag

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The comment about "Not a Man of God" was very pathetic when it came out of her mouth. The wheels in her head were going so fast I don't think she could even keep up. Her only goal was too convince Gerry to evict Roddy. I even thought at one point about the possability of Gerry letting out her little secret game strategy at some point. I think she is going too far and at some point will say the wrong thing to the wrong person. She did say to Marc last night she sure was glad the others have been sequestered cause she was worried that they could see and hear everything she has said about them. Hmmm makes you wonder a bit... I'd love to have full access to her DR entries because I'm getting the feeling that they are very similar to Will's in that she is dogging everyone, because although she shows saddness when someone leaves or at least appears sympathetic when they show her on TV she simply say's, "4 down 7 to go" with a smile on her face.

Moedog

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
FB, where did you get clarification that Gerry said it and not Dani?

Foodbunny

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
In the need Clarification thread. Cricket said Gerry said it. I guess I'll wait for more people to chime in though. I'm still disgusted with the both of them.. I'm so mad I'm shaking.

C1mag

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Food you are right in that Gerry stated about religion but she jumped on it very fast and wanted to make it clear that Rod was indeed not a man of God. I was shocked when she said it and thought she'd say just about ANYTHING which she just about did. She was really playing hard last night. She couldn't even concentrate on the game of cards they were playing she was spinning so hard.

Sanfranjoshfan

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"stop bashing Dani for making a statemnet most christian women would make "

That was not bashing Dani....that was disagreeing with a statement that "most christian women would make". Just because "most christian women" might make that statement, does not make it sacrosanct. Using Roddy's non beleif in a god does not make him more (or less) worthy of of being lied to.

Besides, it's a game and everyone has every right to lie to anyone....even the christians in the group.

Roamjotiba

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani said can you trust him and Gerry said he is a man of his word and Dani said but can you trust him and Gerry said he's not a man of God and Dani says there you go.
I saw it on the live feed.

Squaredsc

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i thought the man of god thing was just her being descriptive. dani will do anything and say anything to win this game. she is playing hard. she is being cut-throat. i like that about her for some reason.

but back to the topic, i hope marcellas doesn't leave, i like him.

Bmh

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sanfranjoshfan..I did not understand how Dani made the comment..I think it is wrong now that I had clarification

But whoever said Gerry brought up the religion thing..is right..Gerry mentioned it and Dani ran away with it..

C1mag

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually Dani baited Gerry into the religion issue. When it was made Dani jumped on it. Like I said it was one of those moments where you just sat back with your mouth opened and realized that these people are playing this game fierce.

Bmh

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I read the LFP's C1mag..Dani didn't bait anything..Gerry brought it up and then Dani used it as a reason to betray R/C which is wrong..You know what both D/G are wrong in this matter..

C1mag

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually I'm reading it too and I thought I heard it differently. I'm gonna have to believe the lf posts over my own ears which is fine. However, the whole conversation was a bait and hook illustrated by Dani. Not Gerry. That I'm positive about. However, I will trust the lf posts about the God issue for the sake of sanity :)

Reader234

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 04:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh I think this is another example of interpretation!! We've had this discussion before, and it does get heated. I know I wont do well explaining it, and I apologize in advance. We are able to spin,interpret phrases, and gesters, like if someone walked into the room and he fit a certain physical description, each one of us would describe him differently. Its not exactly like the old fashioned game of telephone/gossip (in which a phrase is whispered to one, who repeats the phrase to the next person, etc etc, till it reaches the end and the last person says what he/she heard, and it usually is entirely different from what started)

But similiar. It seems we all try and put our life experiences into what is happening in the BB3 house, imo of course, its what makes for discussion. Hoopefully, not bashing...

Moedog

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 04:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Agreed, Reader234.

The fact that it was said and the "there you go" comment followed means that both Dani and Gerry accepted the premise. When will these types ever learn that religious folks have not cornered the market on trustworthiness or morals? They are willing to use their religious beliefs to justify their own deceit and lies. It's despicable and laughable at the same time.

Chance

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 04:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I did the mail in LFP which Ryn put up for me this morning. In it I quoted Gerry as saying ,"he's not a man of God" This was in response to Gerry saying R was a man of his word and D replying,"is he?" to which G made the not a man of God coment. G soon afterwards said he had been praying alot for Gods help to do the right thing. I believe G made the comment bout God cause G perceives D as a religious, Godly woman . G tends to talk in the terms that he thinks will best resonate with whoever hes talking to.
BTW last night G,R and someone were talking about dating, serious relationships etc when G said that he married his 1st wife who was his 1st girlfriend when he was 20 and she was 19. He said they were both virgins. He seemd quite sincere and it made me flash back on when most house guests were trashing him, as usual,(a few wks ago) cause he told Jason he was a virgin when he got married. HGs were saying G was a liar, just said it to suck up to Jason.
Well after hearing him last night, I thought...ah ha..G was telling the truth and they dissed him again, unfairly.
I did not see this convo mentioned on last nights live feed posts but I heard it !!!!!!!!!!!

Spunky

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 05:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What's wrong with these people? Can't they do the math??
Why Marcellas didn't realize it was Gerry who saved him?? He doesn't need Josh to tell him so.
Okay, Marc is a drama queen, but this is a bit too much.

Wcv63

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 05:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I did not see or hear any of this conversation so I have to go off what I have read in this thread. First, not having the same beliefs is certainly not a crime nor does it mean that one is a better person than the other. However, it is only natural for those with the same beliefs to have more in common and therefore have a stronger bond.

Before anyone jumps on that statement I did not make it an absolute. I said more natural not more probable. There are exceptions based on other common denominators and/or factors.

Second, didn't Marc say Bunky cried too much and HE wasn't going to be like that? He sounded upset at the possibibility of stereotyping. I understand that but if he knew he had the propensity to be emotional perhaps he should have remained silent on this subject. That said, this house seems to bring out everyone's emotions. I wouldn't be surprised if Roddy, Gerry, Chiara, Dani,Lisa and Jason broke down in tears and started sobbing right now.

Snee

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 05:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
wcv, i agree with you about the house bringing out the hg's emotions. that artificial environment is a pressure-cooker. i wouldn't be surprised if they had a sob fest in the lr.

i am sad that marce is crying. i don't want him to leave.

Earthmother

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 08:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
IMO Marc is getting some face time. Josh got face time for his tangent and now Marc gets his. If Gerry was grandstanding well "pot don't call the kettle black." Every single week so far Marc has thrown an all out get in your face, drama queen fit. Why is this any different? He's not leaving any more than Josh is. God I just wish these bozo's would cowboy up! Gerry said "Roddy is not a man of God", so what Roddy said he wasn't himself. Roddy sat in that hottub and in so many words said that anyone who believes in God, the bible..blah blah blah (after a while that's really all I hear when he gets on a roll) were ignorant. Those may not his exact words but he inferred it. These people have beliefs just like we do and neither of them learned basic rules of social behavior: never discuss religion or politics...I thought we had a few poor sports last year but with this group it seems more of them are than not. There is no excuse for the things that Marc/Dani or any of them for that matter except Jason has said about Gerry and if he's feeling guilty then guess what HE SHOULD. When did everything that happens in this house become the fault of Roddy or Danny? I guess it's just easier to blame the alphas. You can't blame someone for someone else's behavior. No one can make you do something you don't want to do. And for the very last time without screaming LYING IS PART OF THIS GAME!!!!!! NO ONE SHOULD BE CHASTISED FOR DOING IT!!!! There is no degree of lying...lying is lying. They are paid money every day to lie so let them do their damn jobs. Okay, my rant is over maybe I just wanted face time too..lol

Goddessatlaw

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 08:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Earthmother: WTF? WTF? Take your hands off the keyboards, back away slowly, put down the mouse Mother PUT DOWN THE MOUSE, and go lie to your cat somemore. It IS all Roddy and Dani's fault. I'm sure when you've regained access to reason, you'll agree with me. And yes, Josh and Marci are BOTH heartbroken because they're in love with Roddy (WWWTTTTFFFF?????) and betrayed by him. RODDY'S GOTOGO!!

Costacat

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 08:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
WOW, Earthmother. You got your game face on!

I agree, though... The house is an amazing pressure cooker, and there is not one single person in that house who will not lie, and who will not lie about lying. Granted, Jason may be the only one to feel it is morally incorrect, but he's also stated he'll lie if need be.

I think Marcie is a bit more emotional than he needs to be, but I think if I were in his shoes (er, make that his black sox), well, heck! I'd probably be, too. I mean, he was put up twice, knocked off once, had his best friend knocked out.

I gotta hand it to him though... he WILL get in someone's face. I truly loved him when he got all in Tonya's (which was well-deserved).

Draheid

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 08:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Goddessatlaw: I presume, based on your vocation, WTF = Waving The Flag ... right?

Mystery

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 08:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Or more likely "Where's that file?" (at least that's what it would be where I work!)

Kmjm

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 08:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
But isn't it fun watching Marcellus wig out?!!! And Josh behave like a two-year old? I find this highly amusing!!

Foodbunny

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 08:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lie all you want, do not pretend someone's religion or lack of religion magically makes it ok. Lie because it's the freakin' GAME not because atheists can't be trusted.

Draheid

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 08:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, Mystery, I understand your definition, however, Goddessatlaw is a snake...err shark...err alligator...err what's lower than all that?? Oh, yeah, a lawyer! Hahaha :)

Mystery

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 08:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Draheid, I'm a lawyer too! Working for a legal publisher though rather than practicing.

Bmh

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 08:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i agree Earthmother..everything isn't dani and roddy's fault it is just easier to blame them because they are alpha people

Draheid

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 08:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If the snakeskin shoes fit....ha ha ha ... just kidding of course!

Earthmother

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 08:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
WHOA I read a post and thought "what a nut" looked to see who it was and it was ME!! lol

I just don't get Marc's need to wig out after every nomination, and there not even his..He can't be dumb enough to think he would have survived that first nomination. Lori told him about the 6 pack, and he knew Lisa was a part of that allience and that he was the target. He knew the 6 pack had the votes. This is a resonably intelligent man. Are we to believe that what Josh told him was some revelation to him? Maybe he is upset that his eye candy may be leaving!! I can understand Josh feeling betrayed by Roddy and I think he has good reason to be pissed off.