Archive through August 10, 2002
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Archive through August 10, 2002
Cute1073 | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 01:06 am     <-----stepping in late Well it's all been said but I want to say thank god there are people on this board like avery and keiffer or my opinions would be lost in a sea of comments about how terrible chiara and Roddy are. It is hard to be people like us, I think my comment would be that the Majority of posters are open minded and great but there are a few that are mean and say things like (and this is a direct quote directed at me) "I can't believe the lengths people will go to, to excuse bad behavior" Anyway I think what really happened tonight is that keiffer and avery wanted to feel heard on how frustrating it can be to have posts like that directed at you. Let tonight be a reminder to all of us to play nice!!!lol |
Avery | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 01:15 am     Ty Ty |
Grannygrunt | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 05:58 am     Ok way later to the party than Earthmother but here in the deep south, school has started and the last few days I have been WAY to involved in getting things ready for school. But today is Saturday and nothing but BB on the agenda for today. Got to catch up. Having said that............My only complaint about the HG (and whether or not I like the way they are playing the game) is that I get so tired of the foul language all the time. If I happen upon a convo with Josh or Chiara, I try to find another convo with someone else. Even Mar sometimes gets on my last nerve (or as my great neice say "first nerve"). I just get tired of hearing the f word every other breath. Can this people not talk without that word????? I mean I can understand them saying sometimes as this word seems to be the favorite word of a lot of people and not just the HG. But after a while enough is enough. Even the sex talk just goes on and on. Even though it seems to be less now than it was at the beginning. Having said THAT.........maybe some of MY "dislike" for some of the HG is based on the fact that when I see either one of them in a convo, I switch feeds. If I think they are saying something worth while that pertains to the GAME, then I try to listen to get the jest of what they are planning BUT I still get tired of listening to that language and move on. Hoping that someone else is stronger than me and will post it somewhere so that I can read it and not have to LISTEN to it. Having said that..........maybe my dislike is not toward that HG as a person but because of the way they present themselves. There again, that is what makes the world go round. Different people, different stokes. Each one of us have a different HG that we just "love" and one that we don't particular care about. That is why we have this WONDERFUL place to come and discuss the pros and cons of the game and the HG's. I just want everyone to be friends and play nicely together. Now let's and make up. OK???? |
Alegria | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 06:55 am     This is a great thread. I'm not on the live feeds this year (because of computer & schedule issues) and I get my stuff from you guys. Mostly I lurk, occasionally I post and - always - I really enjoy what all you people have to say (much better than I ever could). Nobody could every expect everyone to agree regarding which hg is the smartest, most ethical, most deserving...but I think that whenever I post I am always hoping that a contribution to the board is made and that someone will feel glad and that perhaps I said something they were thinking. Most of the time I love reading because that is what happens with everyone else. You guys are so funny and there is such a great sense of community here. Where we trip up is if we expect that being in a community means that everyone has to agree, or even get along. Agree to differ and DON'T GO AWAY. More seasoning makes for a tastier dish. |
Earthmother | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 07:03 am     Grannygrunt you are so right, IMO, of course! Cute: Why did you feel attacked by the comment "I can't believe the lenghs some people will go to excuse bad behavior?" Was it directed to you exclusively or just a general comment? Poor behavior is in the eye of the beholder so to speak. If lying in general is bad behavior then we are all guilty of excusing bad behavior. Some have no problem with smutty (my word because that's what I think it is, you may not) language some don't. Some have problems with what they say about Gerry and some don't. Some think lying and decieving is ok if thier favorite does it but not when someone else does it and some don't. Some think disagreeing is bashing and some don't. Don't let your feelings get hurt it's just as much a game on this board as it is in the bb house. Say what you have to say. IMO unless you are telling someone they are stupid, or their opinion is worthless then they have a right to express it. If it is too hard for you to do that then do what I do...walk away from that thread for awhile for myslef not for the one who made me mad, then I go to the bathroom and refuse to wash my hands, say really dirty words to the fish, lie to the cat, and pick a big fight with my husband prove him wrong (which is never hard) and make him take me to dinner as his punishment...JMO |
Grannygrunt | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 07:09 am     "walk away from that thread for awhile for myslef not for the one who made me mad, then I go to the bathroom and refuse to wash my hands, say really dirty words to the fish, lie to the cat, and pick a big fight with my husband prove him wrong (which is never hard) and make him take me to dinner as his punishment" Earthmother, you are one of my favorite people. Every time I see your name, I read your post because then I know I am gonna get a laugh. |
Bigd | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 07:16 am     suddenly I am very drawn to Earthmother... (except that I always wash my hands, and sometimes am forced to wash out my own mouth) |
Maris | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 07:53 am     I do believe that the comment about the lengths people will go to to excuse bad behavior was made by me What I said was "You are right Cute, I am bailing too. I am amazed to what lengths people will go to excuse poor behavior." I made that comment in the thread about chiara as HOH and about the letter her mother wrote about a cousin. There were supporters of Chiara who were coming up with all sorts of scenarios including that the whole thing was fictitious, that it was innocent and that people like me who found the letter offensive were just blowing it out of proportion. I will still stand by my statement that when someone writes a letter like that woman did and people come up with all sorts of outlandish reasons to excuse the letter that was written, is still unbelievable to me. So it was not directed at Cute's post only to the extent that Cute said she was bailing from the thread. If I am directing a criticism they will know it. |
Earthmother | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 08:01 am     Okay, well then I'm going to the zen thread before my name comes up in conversation cuz personally I'd rather have it said behind my back...lol |
Maris | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 08:13 am     A final comment and then I am bailing again, When I looked back at the thread I noted a post from Cutie, "Omg guys....stop being so judgmental, we have no idea what their family is like and what kinds of 'inside jokes' they may have. I can't believe so many people were jumping on a woman they only know from ONE LETTER. Shame" I could use the same comment to apply it to someone who characterizes me as being a mean person based on one sentence which to me seemed innocuous. Calling a poster a mean person could even be classified as bashing. |
Ginger | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 08:19 am     I come here to express my opinion of the HGs and to read other people's opinions. I am sometimes swayed by what others see, and it helps me see it in a new way. Other times I am amazed by what others see, and I marvel at how differently one situation can be interpreted by many. I have NEVER taken it personally when a board member speaks ill of a HG I happen to like, nor well of a HG I don't like. I do not understand why anyone would! But some do. Keiffer, for example, read two posts of mine that expressed my dislike of Chiara, and then posted a direct hit to me about my opinions, making it seem as if my whole purpose here is to persecute Chiara. I was surprised, insulted, and intimidated by his post, as I am not even remotely interested in engaging in fights here and am a peace-loving person. My point? I think it should be against the board rules to express opinions about anyone on this board. We are here to discuss BB contestants, not one another. That's all from me, folks.... |
Stargazer | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 08:32 am     Back to the HG's : ) I for one thought the letter from Chiara's mother was AWFUL. It was rude and I feel very sorry for the family of the cousin. This woman knew it was going to be on television, she is the one that called the show white trash. It became very clear to me at that moment where Chiara got her values from. It's only my opinion but it appears that the mother believes she is one of the beautiful people in the world and others are beneath her. Didn't I hear Chiara explain to another HG later that, well my cousin isn't like us? (something like that). I also heard chiara say when she felt like she was getting "fat" that her father would be disappointed in her. what???She might be a whopping 125 lbs? I think her family has some serious deep rooted problems and were just passed on to her. She said something that her whole family talks like that. A family may be made up of beautiful faces but may be ugly down deep inside. |
Beagle | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 08:33 am     Is there a transcript somewhere of the letter? I can't find it anywhere...
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Inkydinkyspider | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 08:51 am     Beagle: This is what I found in the archives. I missed it on the live feeds.. Chiara just read a letter from her mother and it had a few not nice at all things about her cousin for all the world to hear. That she got her braces off but theres not much improvement because her acne is so bad and her nose is way too big for her face. (ed: nice, thank you auntie) And went on to say she has everyones support and they got a new cat, etc That she (her mom) is glued to the 24/7 feeds Dani just said the letter was so sweet but the cousin thing was pretty diabolical |
Bailey | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 08:51 am     Avery & Keiffer... you are not alone in how you feel by any means. I am an infrequent poster who has spent my last 3 summers on this board mostly lurking. However, this is my first summer where I'm not in agreement with the "majority".. and I have to admit, it's way harder to read the threads when so many people have taken an opposite position. You expect to come here and see a "fair and balanced" dialogue.. and end up thinking maybe you missed something that the others see and you have not. Or that you have seen that maybe the others missed. And just for the record... I have flip flopped on my opinions of everyone in the house a number of times too. And I'm possibly the only person that actually likes Roddy and dislikes Chiara.. but most people see them as a package. I think Dani is playing a great game.. but she scares me. In the 3 seasons of BB I've never seen a player as invested in winning as she is. Not even Will. But she gets the blessings of most posters for playing a brilliant game.. and Roddy, who hasn't been nearly as manipulative, is bashed for actually having the nerve to want to win in the end. I could go on and on with my opinions.. but I don't take rejection very well. (That's why I spend most of my time in Lurkville). But I just want to add.. I feel like I know many of you well.. and thank you so much for all the articulate and intelligent postings on most of the threads.. even the ones I disagree with. <g> I also want to add.. Earthmother.. you're a scream! Thanks for all the laughs this season. |
Strkaholic | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 09:26 am     Bailey..I am the same way, I post infrequently and lurk constantly. This year I have really considered quiting all together because frankly, I am getting way too emotionally involved (LOL!). I keep thinking I need to root for someone else to win in order to not get so stressed out, but just cant. I see all the HG's doing the same things one particular HG will get constantly bashed for doing. They are ALL lying and backstabing. My problem is that in real life, my word means everything and I dont justify breaking it because some else might have broken theirs, specially if I tell others that my word is gold. Dani is playing a great game, but she is playing it dishonestly IMO. I would not constantly tout that my word is Gold and then justify breaking it by saying, it's only gold to those who don't lie. D keeps saying C broke her word. I listen to the feeds most of the time and read the posts the rest. I have yet to hear or read where C gave her word that she was voting to evict E, which is what D is basing breaking her word for. I also don't recall where C gave L her word she would not vote her out. If any of you know when, please correct me. I have to stop now because my thoughts are all jumbled. There is so much I want to say but I know that my post is already not making sense. Let me just end by saying that I like both C and R and really like Jason and Lisa. I am sickened that Lisa dislikes C now. I don't like Dani or Marcellas. IMO, they are the worst backstabbers of the bunch. Dani, IMO is the biggest user in the game. I have never understood the dislike of G. I am completely ambivilent about him. Josh..well..Josh is Josh, he makes this show amazingly entertaining and I think that if he was gone, I would miss him. This is more than likely my last post but I wanted to say that I find the majority of the posters here to be a riot and I really enjoy reading your opinions. This game is so stressing me out!!!!! Have a great day and I apologize if my post makes no sense! |
Earthmother | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 09:26 am     Thanks Bailey, laughter is the best medicine and in case it doesn't work mind altering drugs and alcohol can help until you can see your Dr. lol LET THE DAMN HGS SING!! Music sooths the savage beast!!! (if someone accuses me of calling the hgs savage beasts..you're right) |
Wcv63 | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 09:35 am     Strkaholic I wish you would post more often as you make some good points. I must say however that this game isn't about keeping your word, it's about giving the illusion of trustworthiness because Big Brother is all about manipulation, strategy and scheming. Chiara, Lisa and Dani made a girl's suballiance and Lisa was assured safety by both girls. I'm not down on Chiara for changing her vote...or for trying to bolster her own alliance by strategy. I just happen to like some people better than others. I agree with you about Jason and to a certain degree Lisa. Lisa was such a nonentity when Eric was in the house and had stopped playing the game. Now that she is back and has her game face on I kinda like her too. |
Seanflynn | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 09:38 am     What this lengthy series of exchanges illustrates is that most of the pretty people are in denial about what offends so many of us about the pretty people. No one is under any obligation to defend his or her preferences and subjective tastes, but I have found far better defense for the non-pretties than for the pretties. I guess some of the frustration I have with the supporters of Roddy et al is that in the absence of defending of them much beyond "the others are liars too" it seems they accept the fact that Roddy's gang deserves support because they are young, pretty and "cool." The rest of us don't think that's quite enough. |
Bunyun | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 09:39 am     ...and here comes the threats.. should be a penalty nomination for this one..Chiara just told Dani that if she used the POV she would kill her! LOL! Can't believe how many threats have been going on this time around! |
Earthmother | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 09:40 am     Pretty is as pretty does!! Profound huh? |
Earthmother | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 09:43 am     OMG..how many times have you told your kids or spouse "if you that I will kill you." Now figures of speech are going to be translated into threats? I guess I better take my own advise and STEP AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER!!! |
Strkaholic | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 09:45 am     Wcv..thanks for your reply. I do remember that Lisa was assured safety, but my question is this, at no time do I remember C saying, you have my WORD, which is what Dani claims she is so upset about. All the evicted HG's, with the exception of Amy, have been assured safety at one point or another, by those who ended up voting them out, so what is the difference. D is upset because C supposedly lied, yet she lies all the time. I see that as a double standard. I guess I need to take my emotions and principles out of the equation in order to enjoy this game, but I just can't. My problems is that I am completely addicted and think the only way I will stop coming to the boards is if GOD forbid, my computer crashes which would send me into a comma(knocking on wood three times and then three more for good luck, slapping myself for even having such a horrible thought). Again, I am sure I am not making sense so I stop now. Have a great day! |
Wcv63 | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 09:49 am     LOL...maybe it's time for an intervention Strkaholic? Dani is "using" Chiara's lies as part of her own strategy. I don't think she is all that upset or even surprised by it. But it certainly makes for some good ammunition when it comes to the game. All is fair in love and war and Big Brother 3!!! |
Strkaholic | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 09:50 am     Earth..in reply...I threaten to kill someone every day..jokingly of course! (LOL!) In fact, I have threatened myself to kill myself numerous times this morning already if I DON'T STEP AWAY FROM MY COMPUTER. I am way too stressed out about a TV show for christ sake. I am defending people I don't even know and will never know. Now, if that's not insanse, I don't know what is. Have a great day! |
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