Archive through August 11, 2002
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Archive through August 11, 2002
Teresah2000 | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 01:12 am     I'm officialy feeling sorry ofr Josh, kiki came walking in the living room where he is sitting in the dark, he said to her, that he wants to hate her so bad, but he just can;t and starting to cry, she just smarts off to him and walks off. he was trying to make things right, but she would not let him, he is so sad right now and trying to hide it from eveyone, If I were them, I'd sleep with one eye open!!! |
Snee | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 01:18 am     interesting question, cute. i don't know if chiara in the same situation would garner the same sympathy some of us have for josh. i don't like either of them much, but i hate to see someone feeling so bad. |
Earthmother | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 01:45 am     Cute if a group of the hgs were trashing her the way they are trashing Josh, Gerry and the way the trashed Amy you bet I would say the behavior is wrong. I don't like it and I never did. In another thread I also sid that Josh and Amy were a party to people bashing themselves and I didn't approve of them doing it any more than I approve of it being done to them. I did not enjoy the nasty little late night Amy/Marc cut up Chiara parties and I said so. I don't want Amy back for that very reason. Josh and Chiara have both been wrong for their participation in the nastiness and if and when it happens to them then I hope they will learn that what goes around comes around. My mom told me when I was real young "Be careful of the toes you step on today because they might be attached to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow. All of these people will see their vile behavior at some point and I hope for society's sake they learn from it. |
Teresah2000 | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 02:13 am     I love that quote, Earthmother* very true. All the late night bashing is just wrong, then the next day, turn around and swear you never said nothing. Josh probely never had true friendship before, and doesn't know how to treat one. As for Gerry, yes he is pretty ill-mannered, but after 20-something years of marriage and several kids, double dipping, burping, hacking, scratching, ect. is nornal everyday family living. As for the rest os the HG, groping, spooning, farting, smut talking, crawling on tables is ok? I'm sure when everyone finally all gets home, there's going to be lots of friends and family members that are taping every single show, they will see just how ugly they portrayed themselves, they will probley read printed copies of lots of message boards, like this one. They will be pretty embaressed! |
Wendo | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 02:47 am     According to the live feed posts, it seems as though that Chiara smarted off to Josh because he called her a b*tch. If that's the case, then I don't have a problem with her smarting back to him. |
C1mag | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 04:02 am     As far as the Josh bashing goes I'd have to say that what goes around comes around. They are attacking Josh for playing the game too hard. They have yet to say anything about his appearance so I'm cool with how they treat him. He got caught! Now he has to deal with it! However, I am more sickened at what they say about Gerry. It's just wrong! Especially Marcellus and Dani. They aren't bashing Gerry's strategy or approach in the game, they are bashing his appearance. Now to me thats disgusting and hard to watch because as adults it just looks pathetic! I thought that we left that mentality back in High School but they prove that under these conditions it's ok to rag on appearance. It just looks bad. Knock someone for lying or exposing your little secrets. Thats an obvious rant, but knocking someone about thier appearance is uncalled for. The man has a wife and kids. They must be very, very hurt by some of the cruel things the hg's have said about Gerry. I keep asking myself, what is worse for Gerry? Taking Josh to the finals even though he called him a Nazi, or taking Marc and Dan to the finals not knowing that they dogged him out on his appearance and made him sound like some dirty looking beast that crawled out from hell. I think I'd be a bit more insulted by taking the later 2 seeing as how they kept sucking up to me to get my vote. This years group are very cruel. It makes for great viewing but it also makes you look within yourself to see if you are anything like these people and if so then it is best to make some changes cause I would be soooo embarassed if anyone ever saw me like I'm seeing these people. |
Bigsister | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 08:39 am     Love your post, C1mag. If a few people do look within themselves and decide to make some improvements after looking at these houseguests, then BigBrother does have some redeeming value, after all. LOL |
What555456 | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 08:50 am     Of course they are bashing him. It's human nature. He is in tears most of the time these days because of what he feels they are doing to him. They do not want to feel guilty, so they have to find justification for it. If Josh were not on the hot seat and someone else were, Josh would be bashing the person to be evicted too. It is how these people can deal with doing this sort of thing to someone they know well. |
Costacat | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 08:57 am     Personally, I think Josh has already "melted down" and is pretty much just a puddle of his former self. Also, anyone else notice how he seems to skulk around a listen to various conversations (whether they concern him or not)? I'm sure his eavesdropping has caused part of his meltdown. Which actually brings up another morality question (along with the "is it OK to break a promise? one): is it morally or ethically "right" to eavesdrop on conversations? Does the end not justify the means? |
Lurknomore | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 08:59 am     I have a slightly different perspective here (what else is new LOL). I think I have 2 mind sets. The already mentioned "what goes around comes around," joined by the standard "2 wrongs don't make a right." I think Josh made his bed. I think it's his turn to lie in it. His lies, manipulations, twisting facts and mostly BIG MOUTH cost him his alliances in that house and he should be sent packing. That said, these people just proved what I have been saying for a long time. They are NOT NICE human beings (with, of course, the exception of Jason who I think is hiding under his bed given how much I've seen him the last 24 hours. Poor Jason--that house is a hard place for a decent person, even if said decent person IS playing the game). This group has formed a pack rat mentality and I wish someone had the balls to stand up and say, PEOPLE, you say it's about being nice and we can be nice to each other and play this game, but all I hear anyone doing is being nasty and turning on people. Yet another reason this house needs someone like me in it. Anyone with the perspective to see this, doesn't have the guts to say it. |
Teresah2000 | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 09:00 am     Bashing someone and makinh fun of the way he plays the game is one thing, but to sit there like Marc does about Gerry and say, *God, I hate that man so much, he is so f**ing disgusting. Is just plain wrong Yes, the man is a little un-mannerly but some one should have took him a side and talked to him about it. Boy, I hope the vote Roddy out! |
Costacat | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 09:04 am     Teresah, in Marcellas' defense, I do believe Gerry is waving that friggin' "I saved you with the POV" over his head. On a daily basis. In that case, I'd be feeling a lot like Marcellas. But on the other hand, he hasn't told Gerry to stuff a cork in it. (I don't believe that "I saved your life so now you owe me forever" adage.) Lurk, you are so right about the pack mentality! And the only one who stood up and said anything got evicted the first time out. Although I admit I've been glued to this show and boards, this is the nastiest, skankiest, meanest, lyingest, rottenest to the core group of HGs ever! |
Lurknomore | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 09:36 am     From Costacat "Although I admit I've been glued to this show and boards, this is the nastiest, skankiest, meanest, lyingest, rottenest to the core group of HGs ever!" Somewhere Arnold is busting his buttons with pride, thinking he did a job well done. Sigh. |
Costacat | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 09:50 am     Lurk, make that a <BIG sigh>... |
Bidasea | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 10:08 am     I think that one of the biggest problems about the people in this house is that they do all have friends on the outside. They are accepted individuals, with lives that mirror their friends, spouse, relatives.They really don't see that any of their quirky traits are wrong,weird, or socially unacceptable.They see themselves as the "normal,regular" people. Because they are accepted on a daily basis in their worlds, they decide that everything they are doing is being done the right way, and anyone not with them, is against them.Usually in real life if you meet someone that is VERY different from yourself, you may think "yikes", but won't comment. In the BB house, each and every difference is not only commented on, but taken apart, and stepped on..Josh may be getting what he gave, but it's so hard to watch anyone getting picked on by a pack of bullies. Next week it will be someone else. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 10:44 am     " I'm afraid JOSH is about to MeltDown " I find this thread very interesting. Josh is having a "meltdown"? Let's analyze why. He was chosen out of thousands of applicants to compete for a half a million bucks. His chances to win were 1 in 12. He began as an aggresive contestant, within hours targeting Marcellas and garnering suppoort from half of the entire household (the 6-pack). He has been involved in the strategy every step of the way, lobbying for one HG, lobbying against another, making deals right and left, and outright lying to save himself. This was all well and good.... as long as this strategy was working for him. He was a happy camper with dollar signs in his eyes. Now his transparent machinations have been spotlighted. Everyone knows his game. He knows that everyone knows his game. The whole house has called him on it, and suddenly Josh finds himself completely powerless. He's been crying, he's been whining, he's been very depressed. Meanwhile, he is still spying on the others. Bottom line: Josh got the noteriety he was looking for. He will walk out with approximately $4500 for his almost six weeks of *playing a GAME*. His "meltdown" is due to the fact that he very likely is not walking out of the house with a half million dollars....same as the previous 4 houseguests, which ironically, is due in part to Josh's manipulation! Josh's "meltdown" is simply his feeling sorry for himself for finding himself in the same position that he has been trying to force EVERYONE else. I'm sorry, I just cannot feel sorry for Josh. He is no different than all the rest. He has been just as nasty towards the others as they have been to him. He feels bad because he is losing the game. He's depressed because he is losing the game. He is showing remorse because he is losing the game. The only reason that he is having a "meltdown" is because he is now losing the game and he is not a gracious loser. JMO |
Bidasea | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 10:52 am     And if they vote off Roddy, Josh will unpack, and go right back to listening outside of doors, trying to manipulate everyone, and talking trash. |
Marymc | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 11:13 am     i don't understand the josh sympathy at all. he has been hideous to everyone from the moment he walked in. i was STUNNED to hear a Jewish person use the term NAZI in a joking manner. he has been crude and whiney and has RARELY shown a redeeming characteristic. i'm NOT saying most of the others are much better, but he has to expect to get what he's dished out since the game started. Jason has proven you CAN play this game without being rude or obnoxious. now josh pulls out the tears (which at one point he claimed were fake) and people here are saying, "ohhh...poor josh." remember last year when justin was booted and there were people in the house all upset (i remember bunky actually CRYING over that....i know, i know...he cried over the weather) but the guy NEEDED to go (as did shannon for that toothbrush incident in my opinion)...i'm glad chiara told him off. no one in the house is falling for the tears and it mystifies me that people here are since you all see more than any one HG sees. i hope jason wins for the same reason i wanted ethan to win survivor africa. he's a nice guy and it always amuses me how upset the nasty people get when the nice guys win without stooping to their level. |
Ophiliasgrandma | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 11:29 am     BIDASEA: I thought your comments at 10:08 were most insightful. Kind of reminds me of the bit about the little maggot living in the dung heap thinking it's the most wonderful place in the world only because he's never been anywhere else. We tend to be validated by the company we keep, thus we think we are the norm. |
Woofy | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 11:29 am     I happen to agree with Sanfranjoshfan 100%, 'nuff said!!! |
Earthmother | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 11:55 am     okay, so if Josh melts down, what does he become. I've been pondering what they could do with Josh goo..Arts and crafts project, scrubbing the patio, add to tea for flavor, throw it in the pot with the coot for a late night snack,or just mop it up, wash their hands of it and go back to business as usual. |
Costacat | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 12:53 pm     Pour Marcellas' alcohol on the puddle of Josh goo to disinfect any cooties (not to be confused with coot). |
Bigsister | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 01:10 pm     SanFran, I don't think people are feeling sorry for Josh because he is losing the game, I think it is because the others are bashing and trashing him unmercifully. Sure, he has been mean to others and you could say he has it coming, but it is still painful to watch them ganging up on him. Right now he doesn't have an ally. People are feeling sympathy for him the same way they did for Gerry when everybody was ostracizing him, and for Amy when she was pleading for just one vote. |
What555456 | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 01:19 pm     But, Bid Sister. Why feel sorry for him. This is the way the game is played. Do people feel sorry for the guy who goes bankrupt in Monopoly? |
Wcv63 | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 01:22 pm     What: "Do people feel sorry for the guy who goes bankrupt in Monopoly?" Well, yeah, I do. Actually it's usually me who goes bankrupt. |
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