Should Lisa use the POV or not???
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Should Lisa use the POV or not???
Oregonfire | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 04:30 pm     I bet that towards the end of the game, the POV will be used again, maybe when there are only five players left. When there are only three HGs left, will they even *have* a power of veto challenge? |
Woodpecke® | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 04:52 pm     I see no reason for anyone to use the POV in this instance. They got the two they wanted, leave it alone. |
Costacat | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 04:58 pm     Personally, I think they just ought to get rid of the POV. No one has has the b*lls to use it since Week 1 (and look how well they all took it when Gerry did use it). Since then, either they've been intimidated or too timid to rock the boat... Yeah, it's a great twist. It'd be a better twist if it was used! That said, I don't think Lisa should use POV this week! <grin> |
Stingerman | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 05:01 pm     They should have made the POV a little more exciting and told the Hg's that the person that wins the Veto and uses it will recieve $5000 dollars. You can bet that these people would start using the thing. So far it's been pretty much pointless in all but 1 of the Votes. |
Meggieprice | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 05:14 pm     If Roddy stays and wins HOH next week something tells me we will all be praying for POV to come through in a big way... didn't take us long to be back on the boards did it Costa- thaks for spending some time with us today in your hood-it was lovely! |
Costacat | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 05:21 pm     If Roddy stays and wins HOH next week, I'm gonna just give up the ghost. Unless Dani or Marcellas (or possibly Jason) wins POV. Of course, Roddy COULD stay this week, win HOH, and put up Chiara! <smirk> nope, meggie... got home and immediately came on the boards! it was GREAT to meet you in person!!!!!!!!! |
Auntkk | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 05:25 pm     Costa, Roddy seems to be getting really annoyed with Chiara lately. I wouldn't be surprised. Just now on the live feeds, she tried to kiss him, and he blew her off. He also had that little incident recently in the diary room where he said they were "friends". He could put her up and then call it "strategy". He has a better chance making secret alliances with members of the "others" than what his original tack was. |
Wilsonatmd | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 05:27 pm     Personally, POV would have been more exciting if they let the people nominated save themselves if they won it. Unless it's for tactical reasons, no one is going to use it for fear of reprisals. Lisa isn't going to use it.....Josh has already dug his own grave most likely, and if she vetoed Josh, Gerry would be put up anyway. Roddy's safe no matter what; Dani and the others know it's still too soon to play their cards. A lot is going to depend on who comes back and who wins HOH next week. My guess: Either the returnee will automaically become HOH (because with the vote, and the deciding of the return player, they won't have a lot of time for a HOH game was well) or will have immunity from nominations the first week back. If the return player has HOH, all bets are off, if it's anyone execpt Eric. If the return player is immune, Dani's group needs to win HOH in order to put Roddy up, then win veto. If Eric comes back and is HOH......that could decide the final four. |
Cheerleader | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 05:32 pm     she should get chiara back and veto josh! |
Sheilaree | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 05:36 pm     I agree with Ladybug why have the veto which noone will use. |
Dfwteddy | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 06:04 pm     Earthmother stole my thunder! Here's my fantasy: It's time for Dani to step up to the plate and put herself out there in a bold way. For all the reasons noted ad nauseum on all the threads, Dani understands this is their best chance to get rid of the biggest threat in the House, Roddy. Since she can't control Jason's vote in the current set-up and is unlikely to get most of the others to swing away from Josh given his recent outbursts, she must throw herself into the nomination with Roddy! Dani only has to convinve Lisa to use the POV on Josh -- something that may be easier to do than convincing the others to change their votes. Dani must reveal her hand at trying to get a voting block to vote for Roddy. This should be easy: Jason can tip off Roddy/Chiara to the plan (another asuage of his guilt for the Eric vote and throw them off the trail of his alliance with Dani); Gerry must tip off Roddy/Chiara to the voting plan (as he promised them he would, and this would be a confirmation of the info Jason provided); Marcellas could hint to Chiara the he knows Dani is gunning for her next, letting Chiara know that it was Dani who told Lisa about Kiki's vote the previous week (which Lisa could truthfully acknowledge); and Dani could call Chiara out on something -- like her hygiene, foul language, etc. -- in order to create friction with Chiara just before the POV meeting. Lisa must use the POV to take Josh out so Chiara will put up Dani for nomination (and won't have time to confer with Roddy -- she'll be reacting on a gut level). Lisa is not hurt with the remaining HGs for using the POV; all of this is ture, so no one has to lie; in a head-to-head contest with Roddy, Dani gets Jason's votes, Marcellas' vote, Lisa's vote, and Gerry's vote; and Roddy, with only Josh's vote, walks out Thursday evening. Can Lisa be convinced to use the POV to save Josh? Can the others convince Chiara/Roddy to nominate Dani? Now THAT'S entertainment! LOL -- and now back to reality! (P.S. I agree that Josh wants POV used to save Roddy not because of some twisted alliegance to Roddy, but because he believe he might have a better chance of staying in the house if nominated against Gerry, whom he suspects Chiara would probably nominate in Roddy's place.) |
Earthmother | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 06:10 pm     DFWTeddy,Dani may already be setting this up. She snapped at Chiara today, when Chiara told her what to do. |
Dfwteddy | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 06:13 pm     Go, Dani! Go, Dani! Go, Dani! |
Spunky | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 09:52 pm     I can see now that Dani is powerless in this since it's obvious that Lisa cannot do as Dani is suggesting to respect Eric's wish regarding Roddy (that he stays in the house). Lisa may have understood the need to grab this rare opportunity but she's afraid of going against Eric's wishes.. Drat.. and so Danielle won't encourage Lisa to use the POV. However, what's to stop Dani, Jason and Gerry to vote for Roddy without showing their hand to the others and let Lisa and Marcellas vote for Josh. We don't have a tie and Chiara is powerless. We would have a heck of a moment on tv and the shock in Roddy's face could be precious. I won't even think how high Josh would jump... |
Dfwteddy | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 10:05 pm     If Dani can't get Lisa to use the POV to save Josh, then I fear they will have missed this opportunity to oust Roddy. Jason is firmly voting to save Roddy. Gerry is iffy -- has given his word on his mother's memory (though he thinks she'll forgive him if he votes for Roddy); Lisa is iffy, too -- she doesn't trust Roddy or Chiara, but fears disappointing Eric (a weak move on her part); Marcellas is so upset with Josh he isn't thinking strategically, just emotionally; and Dani doesn't want to be left exposed as the only vote against Roddy. Can Dani persuade Marcellas to vote for Roddy AND be sure she has one more vote from Gerry or Lisa as well? That's risky. Too bad, as I thought the Princess of Darkness would be a powerful ally, but it appears that backbone may only have been temporary. <sigh> |
Spunky | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 10:13 pm     So true. I fear these people lack the necessary guts to do the right thing. (I can't believe I'm saying this). Our first reaction was "Yeah, Yeah, Josh is gone", but our thinking made us realize that it is Roddy the bigger fish to pull while he's on the hook...They will let him back into the water and be happy with a small catch... |
Jazzcat | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 11:25 pm     dfw, a simple plan..........! you are too hilarious. how do you keep all that straight in your mind? all i say is anything to get rody out of there. your fantasy is brilliant |
Texastillie | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:12 am     Has Lisa said whether or not she will use the veto? |
Dfwteddy | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:21 am     thanks jazz! |
Spunky | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:25 am     Looks like she said she won't use it since the majority want Josh out. Dani had to re-think her strategy to get rid of Roddy faced with the majority in favor of Josh going. She did try to lead the horses to the fountain but they wouldn't drink...her nudges were too gentle (this great comparison taken from a poster here I don't remember the name now.) |
Dfwteddy | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:33 am     Hope someone is marking down the date and time of the point when Roddy won the game. This was a watershed moment -- and not likely to be repeated. And wouldn't that have made for great TV! |
Dfwteddy | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:45 am     You know what -- maybe I'm just frustrated with these HGs, but I think if I were Dani and knew the importance of this vote as she surely does, it might be fish-or-cut-bait time for me. Put it out there. Let it be known that I was coming after Roddy. MAKE my alliance (Jason and Marcellas) stand up and be counted. Gerry might even be bold enough to vote against Roddy. Lisa -- if she is still worried about what Eric will think -- is already lost to the alliance and her vote is not needed anyway. If D/Ja/M aren't together on this vote, Dani is wasting her time taking them along to the finals. Time to be bold and beautiful, Dani! |
Jazzcat | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:45 pm     another RIGHT ON dfw. i don't need to post, you do it for me |
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