Kmjm | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:06 pm     OK I have a feeling we're going to need this thread over the next week. Josh just SOBBED to Roddy that he was sooo conflicted because he didn't want either of them to go. I could just see Roddy thinking "Oh God not another emotional basket case who loves me". Anyone else see it? Is Josh sincere or fake? Inquiring minds want to know!! |
Maris | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:08 pm     Folks, remember week one??? I said my gaydar was working overtime and I thought Josh was gay. he sure seems smitten to me. |
Bmh | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:09 pm     dont let Merrit hear that..she will freak..or maybe she will be happy..lol |
Bbrules4ever | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:10 pm     ya i think josh is probably latently gay.....usually gay men relate to other men emotionally like josh does to roddy...... |
Whit4you | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:14 pm     LOL I don't think anyone needs 'gay-dar' to question Josh's um...sexuality.... Me and my room-mate both instantly thought Josh was the 'token' gay person this year ...and both were suprised to find out he wasn't. |
Sam222 | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:15 pm     Marc has even said things to the effect that Josh is in the closet and has a thing for Roddy, he was talking about this in regards to the violent reactions he had towards the girls and how much he resented them getting in the way of his time with the guys |
Caliogirl | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:15 pm     Josh the smitten kitten? Can't rule anything out. |
Zeyna | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:15 pm     Josh looks sincere to me. Just because he idolizes Roddy does not mean he's gay. It's very bizzare that he's so attached to him though. What can I say, must be tough being Roddy. |
Maris | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:21 pm     Zeyna, I think Josh is very needy and is caught up in Roddy's waspy intellectual allure. he wants acceptance from Roddy and will do anything for it. He has imagined this friendship that just isnt there and that is sad. Roddy knows that josh is almost on the verge of hero worship and has been using it. |
Muse | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:27 pm     I feel sort of embarrassed for Josh. What is his problem? Didn't he make fun of Lori for her behavior after being nominated? And Eric and Lisa handled their separation a lot better than Josh is handling his upcoming separation from Roddy...and they were a couple. If Josh is being sincere, he needs to stop being so clingy to someone he just met a little over a month ago. I know that the HGs spend a lot of time together, but still... In any case, I don't feel bad for him, because he's entirely responsible for the other HGs disliking him. He didn't even really try to get along with many of them except for strategy purposes, and they were eventually able to see through that. |
Battlestar | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:45 pm     Josh has Hero worship--but I really don't believe there is anything overtly sexual with his worship. He's the kind of man who finds a stronger man and then idolizes him and no matter how many times that hero whips him, he still see no wrong. But I don't think Roddy likes being put in that position, and I don't think he maliciously took advantage of it |
Willwillbee | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:57 pm     don't know about "gaydar" Josh reminds me of the rodent eating assistant in the vampire stories that will do ANYTHING for his master |
Kmjm | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:00 pm     I really don't think that Josh is gay. But why is he sobbing to Lisa right now that Roddy doesn't deserve to be on the block? Strategy or what? |
Crazydog | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:02 pm     Watching the feeds right now, Josh is trying to convince Lisa to use the veto to save Roddy. Josh says it's not fair to Roddy and that Roddy shouldn't be on the block just because Roddy went against Chiara and said he wouldn't vote for Josh. Josh said he thought Roddy would be a vote for Josh, but what's the difference if it was 4-1 or 5-0. Josh obviously loves Roddy and looks up to him. I'm not sure if this is a ploy to get Roddy off so Chiara has to put up Gerry, and Josh thinks Gerry is more unpopular than him, but at least Josh is trying to help someone he cares about. I don't think he's gay, believe it or not two males can feel very close to each other without being gay. |
Bmh | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:02 pm     I think Josh's thinking is that he can campaign against anyone but Roddy..so he wants Lisa to veto Roddy so he can stay in the game with Roddy..she aint gonna buy that..she will show her hand too soon..no matter who she veteos |
Battlestar | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:08 pm     willwillbe----the rodent eating assistant's name is 'RENFREW' and he cowers in corners and giggles like a maniac yesssss masssster...and then scrafs a fly or two |
Avery | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:11 pm     Just a thought...When we in the real world have a stressful time, what do we do? Call a friend, talk to our spouse, children, grandchildren, go for a run, etc. Everyone has their thing. Think about being in that house, and having completly resigned to the fact that you are defeated, I would call that stress. Whatever his normal stress relieving habit is odds are he can't practice it in that house. So, he clings on to the one person that really gives him the time of day. I don't think that is has anything to do with him secretly being gay, or some deep seeded childhood issue. The man is stressed out, he sunk his ship, he knows it and needs an outlet. Roddy has always given Josh the attention that he wants. Why did he crawl so far up Roddy's butt before this week? I think that it is like the new kid at school that makes a quick sweep of the classroom looking for the popular kids to become friends with. He sees the short, fat kid in the back of the room and thinks if I hook up with him too early I may screw myself. Not saying that is a politically correct approach, but one that some people use in uncomfortable group situations. I predict he will be seeking a whole lot of outlet as this week goes on. |
Janekat0629 | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:18 pm     It's really very sad.... |
Battlestar | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:22 pm     it is sad, his whole world disintegrated at that nomination table |
Cute1073 | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 12:46 am     heres my take, I sincerly doubt that josh is gay but he is definately an emotional guy. I remember him talking to Roddy one night saying that he has only one friend. He matter of factly explained that he goes to work and hangs out with Merrit. He wasn't really clear on why he doesn't have any other friends but I could tell that he feels hurt about it. I think now he feels he has bonded with Roddy and thinks of him as another friend him now. Perhaps the reason why Josh doesn't have many friends is because he gets so emotionally attached and other guys get creeped out about it. thats just my theory |
Snee | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 12:58 am     avery, i hear you. yup. he is stressed out of his mind. |
C1mag | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 04:35 am     This male bonding thing with Roddy may be very new to Josh. Speaking from a male point of view, I know for a fact that there are very few guys who would be open to a Josh friendship. We usually avoid his type. It's like nails on a chalkboard. So maybe Josh's hero worship for Roddy is based on a new type of male bonding experience that he has never been a part of. Unfortunately it makes Josh look pathetic because it at least appears as if he is truly "in love" with Roddy. He gives the impression he would write the grand prize check out to the man he thinks is a king even if he is sitting in the winners circle himself. Thats a lot of power someone has over another person. With that type of spell someone has over another person, it is quite possible that their intrigue could even be physical. Josh may not even be aware of how intrigued he is of Roddy. It's a bit creepy. I think it's best that Josh go this week because if he stays in the game he will look more and more foolish as the time goes on. Roddy is too good at this game mentally and he has made Josh look like a fool. Hopefully he will realize this after he is gone. |
Gramma | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 01:25 pm     No sense starting a new thread when the title of this one will do just nicely for my plea for clarity. Fly just posted , on the livefeeds : "August 12, 2002 - 01:07 pm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- josh talking to Roddy Jo: I really hope you don't follow that f'ing girl though. Something I talked about to Eric a week ago and got him kicked out of the house too. I see you falling for her more and more each day. R remember one of the questions they asked you in the DR the other day, don't answer out loud, and if you say it I won't agree or disagree... Jo: you lost me R: if you can remember what that thing is it will answer some of your questions. Emotions are one thing. JO: I really hope so, beucase I was hopeing so bad to just get my one little vote in the end. I hope Chi won't zap my one vote in the end. R: so you can't vote for anybody? JO: right. R wow " I've read ALL live feeds and am clueless here as to what they may be talking about. Can anyone pull me out of the dark sea of cluelessness? please? |
Flyonthwall | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 01:29 pm     LOL Gramma, I was lost too as you can tell by that post! It was crypticly said by Roddy to Josh. Josh didn't give any more info on it than being confused at first then he seemed to have got it. it's a question they were asked in the DR so we have no way to know what that question was. Sorry to put out broken stuff but that was all I got! LOL |
Curlyq | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 01:31 pm     If I had to guess, Roddy found a discrete way of telling Josh he doesn't plan to keep Chiara until the end. In the final vote each nominee gets to neutralize one jury member so their vote doesn't count. Josh doesn't want Chiara to be able to "zap" his final vote for Roddy. |