Wiseolowl | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 05:42 am     regardless of what happens this week. If Roddy survives then Jason has proven his loyalty . His vote last week will be accepted as a "terrible mistake". At the same time Danni and Marc are giving him a free pass so that if Roddy goes he can just slip back into the alliance. Lisa owes him for his vote last week. At this point Josh and Gerry seem to be his biggest threats as HOHs and even then he would likely be saved by a veto. Getting to #3 seems almost assured at this stage. Good luck? or very shrewd playing? |
Gina8642 | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 07:41 am     Why hasn't Dani asked Jason to vote out Roddy? Is she not confident in her alliance? How would Jason feel if Dani goes behind his back to remove Roddy? (With D using Marc and Gerry's votes) I think Dani might be digging herself a hole if she gets Roddy out this weeek. She may weaken her alliance with Jason. |
Kennyb | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 07:44 am     I think she's just trying to keep Jason from being in a position where he might have to LIE--which he might not do. |
Wiseolowl | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 07:52 am     Jason has told Dani and Marc that he has given his word to Roddy and that morally he is bound .. He even told them to not even talk to him about their schemes. They are respecting that on the grounds that Jason doesn't want to be morally compromised. But at the same time maybe, just maybe he's afaid that Josh or some other snoop would see the whispering and report it back or draw adverse inferences. I think the guy is playing it just right - for himself |
Cajunrambler | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 07:59 am     If Jason was smart, he would have kept his mouth shut and not committed himself to no one. Granted, that might jeapordize his position, but he can rest on his laurels. He has a much better chance to win the game without Roddy. The Messiah Roddy has him completely brainwashed. Wake up Ja. |
Goddessatlaw | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 08:04 am     I don't know - I remember Jason carrying on about Roddy being Satan last week during a Da/Ma/Ja latenight session. Dani may be able to reach him with some time and patience. |
Beagle | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 08:06 am     I dunno, Cajun. Seems to me if you don't make an aliance with someone, your thought of as an outsider and are next for the chopping block. Sad, but I do believe that's the way it goes in there.  |
Blinky | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 08:09 am     May the WRATH OF ROD be upon Jason if he props open the gate for the imposter |
Wiseolowl | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 08:17 am     Cajun I don't think he's at all brainwashed but do agree that he probably could have ridden out the week without nomination or eviction if he hadn't made the agreement . But by doing so he hedged his bet. As Marc and Dan have pointed out, if Gerry's back in next week and Roddy is still there they are back to square one. |
Maris | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 08:21 am     I would not be surprised if Jason doesnt wait till after the POV and then he might go to Chiara and tell her he cannot keep his word. He did give his word to Chiara and I dont see him going back on it without speaking to her first. There is no reason though to go out on a limb before the POV. That is the way I would play it. |
Wiseolowl | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 08:21 am     Sorry in my last post--said Jerry --meant Eric |
Kaili | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 09:43 am     remember the thing about touching someone if you are lying to them? Did Jason do that with Roddy? |
Maris | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 09:47 am     Jason doesnt play those games. He will not Lie. I have noticed that if he doesnt want to agree he just says nothing or changes the topic. If he changes his vote he will talk to Chiara first. Now he may talk to her ten minutes before the vote.lol |
Wiseolowl | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:13 am     Another thought about Jason. Next week one of the four evicted are coming back. They've had from one to four weeks on some secluded beach to brood about their fates - they will all feel they have been scr..d somehow and will be coming back with scores to settle. I suspect that whether Jason voted them out or not they will perceive him as one of the more decent people in the house and he'll be low on the list for retribution. And when he or she returns it will be.... ."hi ..so nice to have you back .. tell me about your experiences." |
Muse | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:40 am     I think Eric could feel betrayed by Jason. He thought he would vote out Lisa. Eric might target Gerry first, but Jason would be on his list. Likewise, Tonya might not be too happy with Jason. I think she'd go after Marcellas and Danielle first, though. The problem with voting out Roddy is that Jason is losing someone who might not nominate him if he won HOH. But Josh might. He's pretty angry with Jason, and he thinks that there's some sort of agreement with Marcellas (which is true ). Danielle and Marcellas seem to be betting on Josh nominating Chiara if he wins HOH, which I don't think would happen. |
Jaysgal | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:41 am     Jason is interesting. Did not I read somewhere that Jason swore over [some relative] that he would vote to evict Josh? So, logically speaking, would not Jason's oath be void? I mean, he purports to be a Christian. According to the Bible, you are not supposed to swear under any graven images or anything else. It would seem to me that Jason has no obligation, logically speaking. But then again, I don't really understand Jason's thinking process and that of other houseguests. Chiara is the one who mocks religion, yet she's constantly having people swear. Since when did she believe in swearing? :roll: She's lucky to be from a wealthy family because I can't see how she would survive with such lack of intelligence. |
Wcv63 | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:49 am     Jaysgal that was Gerry swearing on his dead grandmother. Jason merely "gave his word of honor." |
Jaysgal | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:56 am     Thanks for the correction, Wcv63. I wasn't sure what Jason's exact words were. In my opinion, it is partly luck for Jason that he is playing with people without much senses. I would nonetheless give him credit for how persuasive he is by pretending to be naive. However, I won't give him the award for best player so far. Marcellas and Gerry are just as good. They have something going between them but have hidden it well enough to convince others otherwise. I'm sure Marcellas would knock out Jason over Gerry. He knows that he has a better chance with Gerry. |
Wiseolowl | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:57 am     Eric might have bad feelings about Jason but he will continue to be Roddy's pawn, and depending on whether the relationship continues Lisa may have some influence.. May be wrong but if Eric comes back, Lisa might just be a little more assertive than in the past. As far as Tonya goes if she has two targets before Jason it 's debatable whether she'll be around three weeks after her return |
Becca | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:01 am     Marc has no idea how close Jason and Dani are, if Dani finds out about an alliance with Gerry, she will kick out Gerry quickly. Marc has no idea that Jason and DAni were allied all along, he thinks Jas is the third wheel. Plus, Lisa wants Gerry out. Don't worry Gerry will be going. |
Becca | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:01 am     Marc has no idea how close Jason and Dani are, if Dani finds out about an alliance with Gerry, she will kick out Gerry quickly. Marc has no idea that Jason and DAni were allied all along, he thinks Jas is the third wheel. Plus, Lisa wants Gerry out. Don't worry Gerry will be going. |
Wiseolowl | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:29 am     I know that Marc told Gerry that he would have to pretend to be anti-Gerry to keep their "alliance" going -- but if all this stuff he's been spewing out isn't true--then to paraphrase Roddie, he deserves the Academy Award for the next five years---because he's sure fooled me. |
Jayalltheway | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 12:43 pm     I think Jason's in a great position now. Not only has he fallen off the radar with all the drama, by voting for Josh he is once again reaffirming that his word means something. If Dani has to choose who she's going to have the power of two alliance with, she'll pick Ja because she knows he won't go back on a promise. That's going to be even more important as the numbers in the house fall. Marc is volatile and Dani can see that. I don't think she will ever trust him as much as Jason. I think Roddy and Chia are definately headed out the door in the next few weeks and they'll leave thinking well of Jason. I doubt Dani will harbour any ill will towards Ja for not voting Roddy this week, and I have a feeling she'll find a way to get him out anyway. If not, Roddy likes Ja more than any of the other guys (unless Eric comes back) and is likely to keep him longer and I have a gut feeling he will be dumping Chia before Jay. Jason played it really well this week since he was in more danger than he ever has been of getting nominated. I bet with the return of the evictee, Chiara, Josh and Gerry in the house, no one will even think of booting Jason for a long time. I'm really excited to see what he will say in his diary room entries about Chia and Roddy. Jason seems to be focused on the end game and I bet the whole "we can forgive him one mistake" thing will serve him well if he makes it to the finals with Dani and Roddy and Chia are on the jury. I also think the space he's giving Dani this week is good because she overplayed her hand last week and ended up making Jay a target. This way if Dani's schemes to evict Roddy backfire, it won't be backfiring on Ja. I love this boy! |
Cricket | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 01:12 pm     Yep, Jason's playing the GAME! He quickly apologized (when there was no need) to Roddy and Chiara for voting Eric out and distanced himself somewhat from the other group. He can't lose this week. He still has the "clique's" respect and he has Roddy and Chiara thinking he's their new best buddy. He's playing and playing well! |
Wiseolowl | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 01:26 pm     Agree all the way Jayalltheway--- no rhyme intended. Not necessarily a Jay fan but must recognize his strength.. If he goes to #3 he'll have to win HOH because the other two will recognize his apppeal at the end. Interesting to note that this thread has not attracted alot of attention-- let's face it he's boring---just like the houseguests, I suspect that most of our posters are attracted to the drama of the moment-- works to Jason"s benefit |