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TV ClubHouse: Archives: Archive One: Roddy is a little annoyed with Chiara right now: Archive through August 12, 2002

Fuzzybear

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 09:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
did anyone hear danielle singing "I see your true colors shining through..."
hmmmm

Sam222

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 09:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa and Dani really briefly mentioning the fight, Dani once again singing "True Colors". Lis says way to make Roddy look good. Then surprise surprise Chiara comes in the room. Do y'all notice how she tries really hard not to let Lisa and Dani be alone together

Bridget

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 09:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I missed that Fuzzybear, were they all still in the room or was it after they left?

Mollywood

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 09:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i like r and all but i think calling him an intellect is like calling us magazine literature. jmo he reminds me of this old magazine my aunt used to have in her bathroom, readers digest.

Tatyana

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 09:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Are we sure this fight wasn't staged for Dani and Lisa's purpose to make them think they may not be so lovey dovey and they'll keep Roddy. I mean a little while ago while Roddy was showering he and Chiara were whispering over the shower about something and no one seemed to be able to get what they were discussing. Just a thought. ;o)

Flyonthwall

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 09:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nope Tatyana, it wasn't staged because it was only the girls in the HOH at first and Lisa I think started talking about the interview process.
She said something about people not being the same in their interview process as they were in real life.

It was on into the convo that Roddy appeared.
He just jumped in on the convo.

Wow I'm beat now...Night you all!
FLy

Curlyq

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 09:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know if it was something they agreed on earlier, but I guess it wouldn't surprise me if Roddy milked that argument just to distance himself from her a bit. I do remember how he told Lisa last Thursday that he was so worried about being targeted as a couple that he was considering having someone put him up against Chiara.

Jaysgal

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 10:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You know, I don't know whether this has been pointed out, but those of you immensely criticising Roddy, reconsider your position: Is not he giving Chiara exactly what she asked for?

When she nominated him, she said she wanted to prove to the house guests that their relationship didn't mean that they were playing the game together. She argued that it was Roddy's job to convince the house guests. And earlier before Chiara won the HOH and whilst Gerry was HOH, Chiara revealed to Jason (or was it Marcellas?), I think, their plans to stage fights.

I am not saying this one was staged, because I do not believe that it was staged. What I am saying is that Roddy is living up to Chiara's request. She should be grateful. Why does she think that it is justified for her to put him up without his knowledge much earlier and then tell him to deal with it, but it's not okay for him to give her a surprise figurative blow as part of their plot to seem distant or as if having a rocky relationship?

Maybe Chiara lives a staged life, but not everyone is a bad actor or actress. I think Roddy makes a natural actor for not needing a script from her.

It's pathetic to me that she feels that one must utter something before it is a lie. Gosh, our many gestures and ways of communication are meaningless in Chiara's world--where words speak louder than actions.

Lulu

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 10:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree it is one of Roddy's motivations in this debate to make C look bad to the others but I think he has other motives too.

He's staging this discussion to guilt trip the others into keeping their words not to vote him out - especially Jason.

It's yet another thing he can use against C as a reason if he needs to vote her out and not look the TOTAL jerk to everyone.

He's assuring Josh again how honest and ethical and trustworthy he is so Josh will give him the benefit of the doubt- and his vote - and swallow all the baloney Rod's been feeding him.

IMO,the guy is a master manipulator. I want to see him taken down by the clique but I don't want him to go cuz I like watching him play. I just love this show!LOL

Hillbilly

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 10:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay...here's my take.

All this time Chiara has had her and Roddy married with children and even picked out names for the children. According to what she has said, she wants this to be a long-term, outside the house relationship. She has been pushing this pretty hard.

I think Roddy is really flipping out that she would want a longterm relationship and yet is so casual about being faithful to someone. Apparently to Chiara, it isn't really cheating if the other person never finds out about it.

If you were Roddy, wouldn't you be concerned/freaked out too?!

Nermal

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 10:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yep, Hillbilly. I think you nailed it. Roddy wasn't acting or playing the game. He was genuinely appalled at what she was saying. He's worried that he can never trust her words or her actions because of the way she rationalizes her words and actions. In fact, if he wasn't in the game right now, I think he would have said more to her.

Margie

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 10:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Chiara said that cheating is cheating. She said it's a bad thing and you have to go to bed every night knowing what you did. She said she answered the question: What do you regret the most? with cheating on her boyfriend.

She knows it was wrong, she said it was wrong and it makes her a liar. Roddy led her into a semantic circular argument and played it up for the other people. He overworked it and IMO ended up looking like a jerk. He is smart enough to know what she was trying to say and was just playing dumb to try and make her look foolish.

I used to like Roddy and I still enjoy listening to some of his conversations -- he does make some very good points at times. However, I've come to see him as a very manipulative domineering and sometimes mean person. His relationship (if any) with Chiara is bound to be a tumultuous one.

Avery

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 10:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Personally, I think Chiara and some of the people on this board are the only ones that think these two are an actual couple. I think he knows he made a mistake but is more afraid of looking like the bad guy to everyone by ending it on national television. Because, at this point he has no clue that he is already preceived as a jerk (not my opinion of him but seems to be the majority).

Oregonfire

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 10:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That's the impression that I got too, Margie. Thanks for articulating it better than I could. Chiara can be demonized for many things that she's said or done in the house, but in this conversation she was ambushed, and all three present were enjoying every minute of it.

Wcv63

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 10:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oregonfire....Karma is helluva thing!

Jaysgal

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 10:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Avery, you're accepting that such relationship between the two of them was authentic at some point. However, I think we should take a step back: I don't think any genuine relationship ever existed between the two of them. From the very first day he uttered his "like" toward Chaira, he sounded so phony and I was convinced that he was being dishonest. Clear and simple: Roddy saw Chiara as a great tool for his advancement. The bad news for him is, he hardly thought of the baggage that came with it. He wanted to have his cake and eat it too.

Oregonfire

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 10:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh well, she'll pull through. So far she's used up a few of her nine lives. How many more are left, I wonder?

Is Roddy the only one wanting out of this entanglement? I get the impression that Chiara wouldn't mind walking away from it herself at times.

Tootseug

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 12:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Gosh. Here we go again. Chiara is grilling Roddy again. This time, in front of the whole house. The question from Chiara of the HG's, is "do you think that Roddy is as laid back as he says he is?" She sure loves to play games. She's alot of work.

Sam222

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 12:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok they are having another conversation in the HRD I think they are making the others so uncomfortable and they just don't see it. They are both pretty self involved.

Wendo

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 12:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Tootseug, yeah, but he likes to play games too. I have a feeling that Chiara is starting to feel more secure and push the envelope with Roddy more, argue, and perhaps even assert herself. Roddy likes to be control and when he's not, he tries to talk in circles, belittle, and use his "lofty" language to bring himself above the person again.

I have to say, this guy is a PIECE OF WORK.

Fellow women, if you see Roddy in a bar or walking down the street, do a 180 degree turn and RUN AWAY.

Cute1073

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 12:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank god Dani isn't scared to say what she's thinking....telling them she's uncomfortable. Roddy didn't even blink an eye after his whole speach about making him uncomfortable he doesn't even care that Dani is uncomfortable.

Wendo

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 12:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah Cute, I noticed that too. He sits there and says he wants to know what people are thinking, Dani says, "I feel uncomfortable" and he steamrolls right over it.

Guiltyviewer

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 01:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You made that call just right, Sam! Dani just said exactly that---she was uncomfortable having to listen to the two of them 'debate'.

In my opinion, and I listened to BOTH their protracted discussions tonight, Roddy just LOVES to talk, talk, talk...he really believes he has so many answers, such unique perspectives, and it is his 'responsibility' to enlighten the others. He even TELLS them that he will give them the opportunity and encourage them to be their fullest person...not just the stereotype of being a "mother of 2 kids, or the gay guy, or the Christian", that he wants to expose them to themselves for all their wonderfulness!
(what a crock!! sorry mod...do what ya hafta do)

Sam222

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 01:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Adding to what cute1073 said, Chiara also had the nerve to tell Dani she shouldn't just say she doesn't like something, trying to dictate how she feels! Dani is pissed at her right now.

Smrtass

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 01:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Roddy made some valid points, but they were over Chiara's head. This time, I agreed with Roddy 100%.

I don't think it's Roddy's fault that Dani felt uncomfortable, it was Chiara's.