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Mystery

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 02:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That's so funny, Goddess, I was JUST going to ask why you weren't drinking Everclear instead!

Ocean_Islands

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 02:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Midwesterners have very little 'attitude' -- that's why they are known for being so friendly.

People from the east and west coasts that are prejudiced against midwesterners are that way simply because they haven't been anywhere else.

We look up at those planes zipping back and forth from the east to west coasts and back again and just laugh.

But frankly I think there's enough trash in this country so that there's more than enough to go around. Chiara, for example proves that point.

(For a fact, though, in Louisiana and Mississippi, when you apply for a marriage license they ask you if you are related.)

Aus10

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 02:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OMG!!! I can't believe I missed today's uproar! Hey Hillbilly, loved your post about picking your teeth with a toothpick.....but shouldn't that be tooth??? :)

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Wcv63

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 02:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OI: "(For a fact, though, in Louisiana and Mississippi, when you apply for a marriage license they ask you if you are related.)

I'm in Louisiana and we were not asked if we were related when my husband and I applied for our marriage license. Sounds like a stereotype you midwesterners apply to your southern neighbors. As a matter of fact I don't know anyone who has married (or even dated) a relative. :)

Ocean_Islands

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 02:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well the native of Louisiana who told me that must have been wrong, then.

Wcv63

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 02:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm a native Louisianan born and raised. Lived here all my life and I can tell you with a great deal of confidence that your native LA friend was mistaken. (Or pulling your leg)

Goddessatlaw

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 02:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm actually not clear on why most states WOULDN't ask whether marrying parties are related, as most states still prohibit the marriage of two people who are related as first cousins or closer while they remain in procreation years. Also, sex between the parties in these same circumstances is many times considered the crime of incest, regardless of age. The question is a valid one; ascribing it only to situations arising among our southern neighbors is not. Not that you asked. Just sayin'.

Corriecat

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 02:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Curlyq I work for a company that makes the fixtures for upscale department stores. I will never be able to walk out into the plant again and see a round fixture without seeing an awful picture of Chiara in my mind!

Mystery

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 02:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
According to this site, at least in Jefferson County, LA the application for a marriage license asks "ARE BRIDE & GROOM RELATED?"


http://www.clerkofcourt.co.jefferson.la.us/Forms/marriageapplication.pdf

Goddessatlaw

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 02:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Mystery. Why don't we have a "Smart*ss of the Day" award around here. We could take nominations and have votes each morning on the previous day's nominations.

Mystery

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 03:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry! I look up this kind of stuff all day. I have a friend who moved from California back to her family's home town in North Carolina when she was growing up, and she said kids at the consolidated high school had to ask about people's relatives before they dated. Supposedly people thought my friend's parents were "stuck up" because they wouldn't let her date anyone closer than a second cousin.

Wcv63

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 03:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
State of LA Marriage License: http://www.ebrclerkofcourt.org/departments/public_service/sample_marriage_license.htm

State trumps Parish. I was married in Orleans Parish and I can honestly say that I did NOT have to specify if I was related to my husband. I sure do hope you aren't trying to say I'm lying.

Mystery

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 03:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually I was trying to say that the person who told O.I. about the "related" question wasn't lying.

Ryn

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 03:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well - I would call it a draw, some places ya do, some ya don't ;)

Wcv63

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 03:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I didn't say that person was lying either.

This discussion is driving my blood pressure up. Need to sign off for a while.

Ryn

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 03:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Since mystery's is a pdf and some may not be able to see it - here is the top of the form

marriage

and the text being discussed

marriage2

btw - I am sure this is some old line that was added because of some problem that either happened a hundred years ago, or recently and there was a lawsuit.

I am sure we could find similar text is some norther/east coast states.

Out West its would probably be, "Are you from the same planet?"

Goddessatlaw

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 03:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi, Wcv - truly you both can be correct, although last time I checked (and that's been a long time ago) Louisiana still adhered to the Napoleonic Code, so the rules may be different than the rest of the states. Generally, counties can create their own formats for things like marriage applications AS LONG AS they don't conflict with state or federal laws. Asking an additional question, like "are you related", particularly if state law prohibits interrelation marriage, generally does not conflict with state requirements. PS Wcv - I went to a cousin's marriage down in New Orleans, and they put on the full, traditional southern wedding. It was a real treat for someone used to midwestern traditions.

Curlyq

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 03:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry, Corriecat. :) That's just a question I keep asking myself. What was she doing at the time that set her apart from all the other girls at the mall?

Ryn

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 03:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wcv? Why are you letting this get to you?

No one here is saying anythign bad about LA

as my post above say, there are strange 'laws' or 'questions' like this all over the country.

In the city I live in there is a law that says you can't Bathe in the river on Sundays.

And heck, you can't buy alcohol on Sundays here in Indiana - how messed up is that???

:)

Mystery

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 03:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Or, "Do you exist on the same karmic plane and have you had your chakhras cleansed?"

Goddessatlaw

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 03:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That was funny as h*ll, Ryn.

PS I like the reasoning in Indiana. You can't buy alcohol on Sundays because why I don't know. Therefore, we in Indiana must PLAN our drinking in advance. What kind of moral guidance is that?

Wcv63

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 03:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry guys...hormones and all that plus a little sick of the stereotyping of people from La as being inbred, backwoods, uneducated, classless buffoons.

We're on a thread, completely appalled that Chiara would stoop so low as to trash 7/8 of the population and I perceived that some of our very members doing that very thing only directed towards my neck of the woods.

I over reacted and I believe Goddessatlaw said it best with this comment, "The question is a valid one; ascribing it only to situations arising among our southern neighbors is not." I became defensive when I felt that my veracity was being questioned.

Apologies all around. I'm gonna have a drink now.

P.S. Ryn, we used to have "Blue Laws" here but they were abolished about 15 or so years ago. You couldn't buy clothes, liquor, hardware (or really anything other than food) on a Sunday. I think it has religious roots.

Oregonfire

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 03:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lots of snobs in Michigan, plenty of unfriendly folks there too, just so you know. Snobs are everywhere.

Though there is no way I can explain how Eminem and Kid Rock became our reps in the music industry. Maybe they need to put that question ON Michigan marriage certificates.

(Just kidding. I like them both in an odd way.)

Minser37

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 03:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was born in Mississippi. Been married twice and was never asked if we were related.

Ryn

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 03:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wcv - we still have some - like the alcohol thing.

Of course here in Indiana we also don't ever turn our clocks forwards or backwards.

Some say we are lazy, some say we are just too dumb to know how :)