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Cajunrambler

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 06:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bridget,

Something to keep in mind that a day is also defined as a period of time. The judgment of God or Day of Judgment could also describe the 7 year tribulation period. That is what Jesus was talking about in Matthew 10:15; 11:22,24; 12:36; Mark 6:11. Also Peter refers to it in 2 Peter 2:9 and 3:7.


I wanted to edit my previous message, but too much time had elapsed.

Kearie

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 06:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was in no way meaning to be curt or sarcastic. I apologize for coming across that way. I was specifically addressing Verdana because she has specifical asked about "God being merciful". She has indicated that she believes that "Our Christian God" is cruel. I am saying, I, as many Christians believe, find God to be merciful and loving. We see him as truth and justice. Love and life. Our wonderful God is our reason for living.


And I respect your belief that there is no God.

My point was...as a non-believer...IF...(And please take this only as it is written) God does exist, and intervened in the WTC tradgedy, as Verdana questions....It wouldn't be taken by non-believers as a miracle of God...
Thus, God's intervention wouldn't matter to you or other non-believers. Simply because you don't believe in God.

I was addressing Verdana because she questioned God's mercy. Because she questions God's mercy...I was saying that I believe if God controlled the pain and loss in peoples lifes by intervening...we would simply be as puppets on a string.

You yourself agreed that we grow and learn through our experiences, which includes our sufferings...whether or not we believe in God.
Without our experiences and ability to grow and learn from mistakes of ourselves and others...what is there left to make us humans?

Bridgetlovesbb

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 06:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What i see in the Bible is that there is one judgement day in the future where " every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad." (1 Cor. 5:10)

Cajunrambler

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 06:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bridget,

One of the rules of hermeneutics or Biblical interpretation is taking into account the entire context of the passage. To whom was Paul writing to? He was writing to the believers in the church, thus meaning all the believers will appear at the judgment seat. He was not purporting that unbelievers will also be present since he was speaking directly to the church. This event is separate from the Great White Throne.

Reader234

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
(I may be wrong but here I go...)


{I was just thinking, we wouldnt even be having this discussion if it wasnt for Jason, making a stand for his beliefs, well I dont want to put words in his mouth or anything, but I find this an incredibly interesting discussion, I do admit to be afraid to come in and read because it absolutely could disolve into ugliness, but I am always amazed at the thoughtful posts that appear, and I was driving around town trying to figure out if I would have enough guts as Jason to stand by my beliefs, or would I disolve into listening at doors? )

Just interesting food for thought

Vancouvergirl

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Supposedly God made the earth and its living creatures and us because he loved us. He wanted us to enjoy his creation. He only asked us 1 thing: to obey his word.
We didn't. He tried many times to perform miracles, send angels and persuade us to listen to him. We treated his son like crap. He got upset. After the flood, he promised he would not do anything mean towards us again.
Perhaps he is so p*ssed off with us that he chooses not to interfere, choses not to perform any "miracles" and perhaps his attitude towards us is "I tried to tell you. You didn't listen. Now you've made your bed so lie in it."
Could that be a reason for why he does not intervene to stop the evil in the world?

Oh ya, one more thought, as a christian, I am not afraid of death or what will happen afterwards. I am not a christian because I am scared of "burning in hell" either.

but keeping to topic.... I wonder if Jason is???

ha ha ha

Cajunrambler

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Chiara would be a problem for me. Her sexual promiscuity and come ons would be my greatest test. I could easily fall in love with Amy because of her bubbly personality and humor.

Romans8_1

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Reader,

I agree. I have found it very interesting to see how Jason handles himself. As hard as I want/try to do the right thing, I don't always suceed. I have been very impressed with Jason so far. He's playing the game very well and keeping it in perspective. I don't think he has compromised his beliefs so far. I was thinking about deceipt and strategy and how that pertains to Christians. Within the context of the game, there is nothing wrong with it. If deceipt were off limits to Christians and games, then we wouldn't be able to play chess, or basketball. Deceipt and stategy is apart of most every game. But what makes it interesting is the very personal human element to this game. Yeah, you try to win, but at what expense. Do you go out of your way to hurt another? This is what I've liked most about Jason so far. He wants to win, but he's not going out of his way to hurt another. He's very much trying to keep it context. I think he has been a great example of a Christian person in a very trying situation.

Vancouvergirl

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lots of times I have questioned my own faith, when people would talk about religion or God and I would say nothing or denounce him. It always made me feel bad and weak.
Now I am strong enough to talk about and stick by it.

It takes guts to stick up for what you believe in, especilly when it means you could be treated differently or criticized by your peers. Or lose out on $500K.

Cajunrambler

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He doesn't go around starting rumors or blatantly trashing others in the house. Whether he agrees with them or not, he shows them respect as a human being.

I don't have line feeds, but basing what I saw on TV, the deal he made with Marcellus was to work together. I didn't specifically hear him say that he wouldn't vote to evict Roddy. Perhaps on the live feeds, he said it and because of CBS editing, cut it out. So I don't see him breaking his word if he votes Roddy out.

Romans8_1

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Vancouver,

One of the things I have admired about Jason is the way he has acknowledged he is a Christian, and what he believes, without banging everyone over the head with it. Jason is portraying what a loving/caring Christian is without any of the negative stereo-type characteristics. I think even non-believers can respect the way he has handled himself and they way he has un-intrusively stated his beliefs without making them uncomfortable. He has been in close association with a homosexual, atheist/agnostic (whatever), and a very sexually permissive girl. As far as I can tell, non of them feel uneasy around Jason. Just the opposite. They all seem to like him and respect him. I think this personifies the Christian love that we are to show to all humans.

Sbeachy

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know if is the right thread for this but...Jason is REALLY a cool person! He has spent the last hour with Joshy. Josh was so depressed, started a convo with Jason, and Jason totally is cheering him up. Josh started by saying that he didn't think he should be with Merrit, and after listening to Josh being depressed about how he has acted in the house, Jason gave really great advice to Josh. He told him to take some time to decompress before making any decision's regarding Merrit. I don't know if this has anything to do with Jason's religious belief's, his compassion as a human being, OR if he is playing the game.
I was sad watching Joshy depressed today...I am not one of his fan's, and wanted him to go, and believe that he put himself in this position. But, I think he was dissapointed in himself, and dwelling on the fact that the vote would be unaimous.
Once again, Jason is great!! He has revived Joshy, so he can hopefully enjoy his last days!
JMO
P.S. Merrit you owe Jason a hug!!

Cajunrambler

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason is compassionate and sincere. Most of the HGs would turn their back on him. Eventhough Josh shot himself in the foot and blew it, nobody deserves to be ostracized. However being alone does give one time to collect their thoughts and reflect on their mistakes.

Jason sensed he needed a friend to confide in and I doubt seriously Jason would blab of their convo to the others.

Sanfranjoshfan

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ya gotta give Jason credit....he actually made Josh laugh out loud! Jason is such a nice boy...hope that doesn't stir the ire of hateful Chiara, who has been going out of her way to keep josh ostracized!