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Maryk

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As a Roddy supporter, I also think he will be evicted really soon. :( I think he just underestimated Danni so much and put too much trust in Jason. Like in Survivor, in the middle game the "alpha-males" are the ones targetted and are to go.
The majority of this board is down on Roddy and at I think most of his supporters are down also.
(I'm still holding some little hope in some HOH competition luck and maybe the twist turning things)

Wendo

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
With regards to Roddy and Chiara, yes, she's a big girl, I completely agree that she's responsible for her own actions. However, one) Roddy should have followed his original plan of NOT hooking up with someone in the house; he's mentioned this before.

Two) He wants to pull back, I can see that as well. But, he knows if he does he risks her future jury vote, as well as other jury votes, because if he just cut Chiara off completely it would reflect worse on him than her.

And, three) If he does want to cut back then he should stop with the future talk with Chiara. And, he does do this a lot, mentioning chinese food in the park or going to a sporting event. He continues to perpetuate Chiara's fantasy. Giving her the impression that a future is possible even he said to Eric the other day that Chiara isn't one you bring home to mom and dad.

He screwed up by hooking up with her, and HE KNOWS IT. A tactical error.

I think this is another reason why people don't care for Roddy. He says one thing about Chiara, yet bahaves quite opposite with her. His behavior is one of a cad, frankly.

Snee

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
in last week's show i saw roddy's playful side and really enjoyed it. i also like how he's playing the game. i don't like him yet (and i doubt he really cares!) but i don't understand why people who dislike a player are called 'haters'. sneesh.

Wink

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Firstsnadra1 I assume that was Saturday's show which I didn't see so maybe I'm missing out on the goofy side of Roddy. I don't get the Live Feeds either. Now that I think about it I probably have no business whatsoever commenting on any of these people. I've missed at least 2 of the shows and some of the live feed posts. I'm easy so I'll take your word for it that Roddy has another dimension and it was shown when I wasn't paying attention.

Oregonfire

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
These days all I have to do is hear a few snippets of Roddy talk and he irritates me. I don't like the way he talks to Chiara, and wouldn't like being spoken to in the same manner. I'm sure that some of my frustration stems from Chiara not standing up for herself or fighting back, but usually it's his condesending tone and hairtrigger temper that make me go "ick." He can be a real downer, and has been very much the Glum Gus the past few days.

Yuck, yuck, yuck!

Firstsnadra1

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 12:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
lol, Wink! Very open-minded of you to take my word for it! :) I will admit I don't read ALL the feed posts, so I am sure I have missed many of the bad attitude displays by Roddy. We'll call it even and I'll get you a VCR for Christmas! lol

Wink

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 01:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Firstsnadra1, a VCR sounds like a fair deal to me . Can I have one of those that have the DVD player in them? I don't have any DVD's but I'd like to be able to say I have one.

I think maybe I need to pay closer attention. It didn't even occur to me to tape the show Sat. nite. I've decided I'll watch for your posts and let you be my eyes and ears. I trust you implicitly.

Avery

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 01:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I like Roddy. Actually there is not really anyone at this point that I dislike. Some I would wish to win over others of course, but nobody that I will just die over if they win. I have rolled my eyes at Roddy numerous times along with the others. I guess what drives me crazy about all the bashing is that for one thing it goes too far, in my opinion. It is one thing for him to not be liked, it is another thing to analyze him as a wife beater. I mean come on! Somebody said earlier that we all take sides, as in a sporting event, and that is true. What makes me crazy though is the inability for many to see any flaws in who they picked. I have said this before in several threads, it is to the point that if Roddy does it today it is time to burn him at the stake, if Danielle does it tomorrow it is master game playing. There is not anyone in there that is without flaws in their personality or in their game playing, I just wish we were a little more equal opportunity. Someone mentioned Roddy's humor, and though he doesn't make me laugh often, as Ryn stated he does occasionally say something that makes me smile. The difference is that I can still pick out the moments that he does indeed make me smile. That is not the case with many of you, you dislike him soo much that there is nothing that he could do that was right or at all funny. When the disliked group is out and all that is left if your wondergroup, my goodness the love of this board will be like being back at the commune.

Firstsnadra1

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 01:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOLOLOLOLOLOL! Your trust is not misplaced! Not to worry, Wink! I'll turn you into a Roddy fan in no time! I do think he is a windbag at times, but hey, aren't we all?! Overall, I think he's a good player who is backpedaling to fix his mistakes (ie, hooking up with Chiara and overlooking the other players' strategy). IMHO Roddy will land on his feet. And if not, so be it. Tis only a game! (No dvd player for you...i don't have one yet!)

Lurknomore

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 01:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Annie I agree with your 2 sides and rooting for one theory, but for me the reasons are different. I am rooting for the Jason, Marcellas, Dani group because I genuinely like them more. In real life I could see at least hanging out if them if not being friends. In real life the thought of having even a cup of coffee with Roddy and Chiara seems like torture, and I would have absolutely nothing to say to the rest of them.

WHOOPS too funny I typed this about half an hour ago and got distracted. Came back and saw it. Sheesh I need a vacation.

I think like attracts like in life. J/D/M all have qualities I

Lurknomore

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 02:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What happened to half my post? Did the board gremlins eat it??? What I typed is moved around. The like attracts like was in the middle and there was more...then the whoops was at the end. I have NEVER had that happen here before.

I think I said something about how those 3 have qualities I like and enjoy in my friends and pals, so that is why I they are the side I am rooting for. Said more but no clue what...gonna attempt to post this now. :)

Whit4you

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 03:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keefer I haven't read this whole thread - so don't know if anyone else addressed this but I definately disagree with this comment:

"That is of course unless you win, in which case (Will) you will become funny, charming, and a good player. "

The way that comes across is we jumped on his bandwagon AFTER he won.. but that's so not the case.. the majority of WIll supporters became supporters sometime PRIOR to the last 4 weeks. Most definately most supporters were supporters before he won - back when it was Hardy / Nicole / Monika and Will left in the house the majority of this site were dying to see either Hardy or Nicole gone.

Anyhow just wanted to clear that up for any newbies here - lol :)

Whit4you

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 04:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't dislike Roddy I don't really even KNOW Roddy except how he acts under this precise circumstance which tells me very little about the real person.

I don't want to see him win for the same reason alot of otehrs here. I think he's a good player but him targetting those not in his 'clique' reminds me of the jerks in High school who did that sort of thing and I disliked it then and still dislike it.

I really don't know where this 'they dislike the young / single / in crowd' type comments come from that's bull - Jason is practially treated like a saint on this board and he's exactly what was described above as the type targeted here. So was Will..so was Eddie and Josh and Curtis and many other's that were well loved here. So that arguement is one of desperation lol.

What I gather is alot on this site don't like the 'power people' - (myself included) those who take over and try and wipe out the rest. I've seen them as the ones not liked here on Survivor and on BB... it's the group that takes over you know and tries to run out the rest... 'the rest' - become the favorites..and the 'power group' no matter what an individual in that group might be like become the enemy here. Like Eric for example... I think if he had not been one of those orignal 6... he'd be one of the fav's here but because he was one of those 6 who planned to force their way to the end through nothing more then the fact they had more votes ... because he was a part of that group - we focus on his negatives...

Anyhow - I think Rod was playing a good game personally and if he does win .. like Richard Hatch he does deserve it. BUT I don't like the way he's playing personally - even if it's within moral boundries (for me he hasn't went past any..)

Foodbunny

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 04:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"What I gather is alot on this site don't like the 'power people' - (myself included) those who take over and try and wipe out the rest."

But that's the goal of the game. I consider Danielle, Marcellas, and Jason just as much a "power group" as Roddy, Eric, Lisa, and Chiara. Maybe even more so, Roddy's group hasn't always voted together.

Earthmother

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 04:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Roddy is the lessor of 3 evils at the end he will be liked. If he is the biggest jerk he won't, Pretty simple huh? Heck we have a way to go yet and JASON could do something really bad (don't want to believe it) and all the Jason lovers will dislike him...lol

Maris

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 04:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope that Lisa stays and nails his butt to the wall. Here he is with Eric and Lisa talking. Eric says whichever one of them gets evicted he hopes the other will get HOH. Roddy says dont worry you will get HOH. Lisa just up and walks away.

Roddy will be shocked if Eric gets the boot and then he has to deal with Lisa. It is going to be hard to sell the idea that he was on her side.

Whit4you

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 04:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Food - but the thing is they have to WORK for it - that's what I mean.. like in the one Survivor where they just simply had to pick off the other side one by one...

it's the same when all they have to do is pick the others off one by one.

The ONLY reason that D/J/and M even stand a chance is cause of the POV twist..otherwise all the 'strategy' for this game would have been made in that 5 min decision by Josh to have the 6 in that house - be the final 6... that woulda been it. I didn't really mean we don't like power people but I think basically we don't like it when others don't stand any based solely on #'s and not starategy etc..which is when some here became anti - 6pack...you know?

I don't think this game is about 6 people deciding the 2nd night they would be in the final 6 and that's it - period. Luckily things have changed and now it's not like that but by the time they did change.. the opinions here had been formed you know? LOL

It's like I'm starting to like Eric and Lisa a bit now...:)

I may be wrong - I just see the way things go here and that has been my impression... CT - was instantly disliked because they tried to control the show...this was before much of what they did to prove they were dislikeable...LOL :)
And I don't remember the group's name but the group who picked off the other group in Survivor - it was the same thing in that case... same with the Hardy/Nicole/Krista power block.

Ocean_Islands

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 04:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I like Roddy, actually. He reminds me of myself.

However, he has a serious case of Hardy-itis, as I've said before. He believes too much in his own power.

He's obviously playing the game with Chiara, as Chiara is with him as well. I don't think there is anything wrong with that, but it could easily get out of hand and become a trap.

It's only a matter of time before he's out unless he realizes it and takes some corrective action imho.

The revelation here is that Eric and Lisa have more integrity and likeability than Roddy and Chiara, and that's a good thing.

Men like Roddy must remember the tragic flaw, which is that pride cometh before a fall. Modesty and circumspection are some of the most important virtues.

He never should have let his fear of Chiara's anger interfere with his developing a relationship with Lisa.

There's only one way out of a cat fight for a man, and that is to treat both cats exactly the same.

Costacat

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 05:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't like Roddy, and I never have. I don't like Roddy based on how I see him interact with other people. I think he is condescending and pompous in his tone and actions (pretty please... tell me who does not know where the friggin' Artic Circle is located on a globe?).

I never thought Roddy was a "hottie." I never thought Roddy was eye candy in any way. If I preferred my men built but dumb, I'd pick Eric.

I don't like how Roddy seems to be leading Chiara on, and I don't like it that he encourages her in his relationship (whatever it may be) with her.

My fondest hope right now is that Roddy makes it to fifth place. He won't win the half mil, and he won't win the $50K. So close, but not close enough. He won't really be "remembered" for being anything but a loser on BB3.

Then again, I do NOT think I could manage to survive this show if I had to watch/listen to/read about Roddy for another five weeks (or whatever it is till this show ends).

NOTE: Kiefer, this is not Roddy bashing. I do not like the man based on what I have seen and heard. That is my opinion and I am entitled to it. I do not like Roddy. Period.

Sanfranjoshfan

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 05:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
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I think this may be Roddy's REAL strategy...To talk so much that he chases the others outta the house!

LOL I saw this in today's paper and I immediately thought of this thread....it looks like it was written with BB3 (and Roddy especially) in mind!

Earthmother

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 06:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sanfran..that's Eric, Lisa and Chiara with him...lol This is their future

Sanfranjoshfan

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 06:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I guess I don't understand some of the comments in this thread....(I just read all the stuff I missed while I was out today)...Yes, Roddy IS very intelligent....and yes he got involved in a relationship with someone that he probably (both emotionally and strategically) shouldn't have. I think he realizes that now, too. BUT....whoever said that intelligent people are SO intelligent that they never make relationship-mistakes? I know LOTS of extremely intelligent people that have found themselves in really AWFUL relationships. Emotions/flirtations happen all the time....emotions and attractions are not necessarily tied to one's intelligence. Granted....some intelligent folks are SO "smart" they never have ANY relationships....they can "see" the faults and pitfalls of everyone they meet and so they avoid relationships with them.

That's all I wanted to say....I think Roddy's very intelligent and charismatic and he is just as likely as anyone to make an error in judgement when it comes to relationships.

Mystery

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 06:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
(In my Roddy voice) "Actually, the quote is 'Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.'"

(ducking!)

:)

Costacat

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 06:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL, Mystery!

Earthmother

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 06:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy was bragging about his name being on a plaque at the House Of Blues in Las Vegas. This is a night club/restraunt in the Mandalay Bay. It's not so great, decorated in junk art. I will be there on Monday and you can bet I will check to see if Mr. Roddy's name is there. If it isn't I will come back and scream "liar, liar, pants on fire." Hopefully Eric will be gone so he doesn't have anyone to put out the fire. If it is there I will reserve the right to say he was telling the truth based on his behavior while I was away. lol