Archive through August 12, 2002
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Archive through August 12, 2002
Bmh | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 01:35 pm     Lisa has already said she doesn't want Eric back..and I do believe if Eric does come back..that Lisa will start to plant seeds of doubt in Eric's head about Roddy and Chiara..she doesn't like them or trust them..why would she go back to them??..Just because she might have a better shot at the money doesn't mean R/C will be loyal to her..they let her down once already..she isn't going to make the same mistake twice..I dont see her aligning with R/C ever again..no matte if E likes it or not..She said her relationship with E is separate from the game.. |
Minnyace01 | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 01:38 pm     Woodpecker - I agree with you. The problem that I've got is that I've got my money bet on either Roddy or Chiara winning this game and I need to find the light at the end of the rainbow cause I need a lot of help now! |
Woodpecke® | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 01:40 pm     I am a bigger threat than Josh to win this game, and I am waiting by the phone on my day off for Arnold to call and say, "Wanna spend the rest of your summer with bikini clad babes and free food and a healthy paycheck?". When he calls I will pack a white robe, some peanut butter, and a promise to SanFran I will moon him the first chance I get. By the way, Bmh, I will promise to practice perfect hygiene and never be nasty. |
Bmh | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 01:42 pm     Wood you better! lol jk |
Woodpecke® | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 01:43 pm     Chiara is alive and kicking; you may still be able to collect on that bet. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 01:43 pm     "I am a bigger threat than Josh to win this game" I take that you are implying that *anyone* is a bigger threat than Josh to win the game.....even RODDY? Isn't that an admission that the smart thing to do is evict Roddy? :-) |
Seanflynn | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 01:44 pm     BMH -- If Roddy or Eric (returning) or even Lisa gets HOH next week, it could easily NOT be one of that group up for eviction next week And even with POV, that group then would have the #s to control the game Those who think the damaged Roddy is the dead Roddy are miscalculating terribly. They are basing the future on the present. That's the way generals lose wars. Apart from Josh' general obnoxiousness, the only reason Roddy is not ousted is that Danielle can't be sure of getting 2 more votes. ALSO, why expose your strategy until POV is exercised or not? Silly to make a greater enemy of Roddy when he might not even be a potential evictee. |
Bmh | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 01:46 pm     if Lisa gets HOH..I guarntee..as long as Eric doesn't come back..she will nominate Roddy and Chiara or Roddy and Gerry |
Woodpecke® | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 01:53 pm     Yes, any of them has a better chance of winning than Josh does. No, it is not an admission of......damn, you know what I mean, goofball!......LOL! |
Seanflynn | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 01:56 pm     BMH - You can't guarantee that Eric won't come back And you can't guarantee that Roddy would beat Gerry And you can't guarantee that Chiara or someone gdoesn't get POV and saves Roddy To kill the snake, you must cut off its head. Do these guys want to win or not? |
Seanflynn | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 01:57 pm     That should have been "Gerry would beat Roddy" of course |
Bmh | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 01:57 pm     Seannflynn..I never guaranteed any of the things you mentioned...lol.. |
Gouraphik | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 01:59 pm     Why go for the 2 birds in the bush (Roddy nommed by the next HOH vs. Chiara or someone else) when the fat bird (Roddy on the block RIGHT NOW) is in your hand? I don't think anybody's a fortune teller in that house. They don't know the future. That's why betting that Roddy will be vulnerable next week is a case of counting your chickens before they hatch...no matter whether your guess turns out to be true or not. Writing any HG off is a case of extrapolation to the extreme. What's true on Sunday night may not be true come Monday morning. In the end, every HG is a threat to every other HG, so the wise strategy is to gun down the strongest ones first. It doesn't guarantee you a win, but it'll get you in the top 2 if you're lucky. Honestly, who knew that Chiara would put Roddy in such a position this week? Unless she wants him to go (which could be possible...you never know), it was a foolish move. The HG's should thank their lucky stars, remove Roddy, and then work on wiping out Josh or whoever else they desire to oust. |
Bmh | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 02:02 pm     I agree Gouraphik I choose the wrong word to use with my post..anything can happen..but the chances are no extremely slim for Roddy to get evicted..from the looks of it Josh will be out the door on Thursday |
Woodpecke® | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 02:02 pm     Roddy is dead. Toast. History. Comatose. No chance. Lifelines gone. Blew his wad. Tactical disasters everywhere. 10 runs down in the bottom of the ninth. Suffered a groin pull and cannot recover quickly enough. Going, going, gone. Sooner rather than later. No more money from CBS. Back to reading reference books while on the toilet. See ya at the Vegas party with the winner. |
Minnyace01 | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 02:10 pm     Woodpecker - remember when Rivera was on the mound in the bottom of the eighth, game 7, ballgames done, right? Or, how about NC State beating Houston on a Charles dunk in the final game of the NCAA BB tournament. Remember, it's not over until the fat lady sings, and she's not even warming up yet! |
Woodpecke® | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 02:18 pm     Roddy will win as many Big Brother shows as a certain Midwestern professional football team won Super Bowls. You know the team. Page, Eller, Marshall, Tarkenton.......Zero.........Hahahahaha! |
Sia | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 02:28 pm     Woodpeck'r, if you're packing to go into the BB house, I wouldn't waste time packing new jars of peanut butter. Haven't you heard? ASP provides all the PB you could want--and then some. Your time might be better spent hiding beef jerky strips in jars of peanut butter for those lonely, hungry weeks when you're restricted to PB & J. You might want to consult with Kel of "Survivor" fame to see what his recommendations are regarding beef jerky. Of course, you might be relegated to eating your sneaked-snacks in the bathroom out of sight of the cameras. Ewww. The Internet freaks would be all over you for that--not to mention what your housemates might think if they caught you.  |
Seanflynn | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 02:31 pm     Woodpecker, you are a bright and enjoyable Clubhouse contributor, but I wouldn't want you to do any strategizing for me. Roddy can regroup, and he could have opportunities. Nobody is dead in this game. Some are more unlkely than others -- obviously Josh' chances are very slim -- but this game has a long way to go. Roddy has a better chance of winning at this point of BB3 than Will did at this point of BB2. Remember that Will looked like Dead Man Walking most of last year. |
Minnyace01 | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 02:31 pm     Ouch! That was below the belt and is illegal in most states! And the worst part of it is is that we are going to be awful again this year. Our only hope is the Twins, and baseball will probably go out on strike. Go figure! But, we can't wait here until college hoops starts and taking it out on your Hoosiers! |
Nessietessie | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 02:34 pm     I started this thread, and I still think they (Marcellass, Danielle, Gerry, and Lisa) are dumb not to vote to evict Roddy. Now is their chance, it may not come up again before one of them has to go. Also, I think it is cruel to ignore Josh, just the same way it was cruel when they were ignoring Gerry. So junior highish. They are very mean people this year, and I can't say there are too many of them I would want to be friends with. |
Keiffer | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 02:49 pm     Alright here we go: #1: I keep hearing get rid of Roddy now while you have the chance. With very little discussion of getting rid of Josh while you have the chance. Why are people discounting Josh as a threat? He should have been gone against Lisa, but crawled back. Is better at persuading people about "facts" (clearly) than any other HG. His moves this week against Roddy have been brilliant. Talking about he is a vote for Roddy if Roddy is in the finals... thus meaning "better make sure Roddy is out before me because if you make it to the finals against him you wont get my vote". Everybody is dissing Chiara for believing him about Lisa last week, but what are they doing now? They are believing him when he continues to tell half truths. The truth is he talked to Chiara WAY before she vote to evict Lisa. The truth is he did talk to the D/M/Jas group about how the "couples have to go" over the last two weeks. Sure he meant primarily the girls, but the way he talked left the HG believeing he meant any combo of the couples. Bottom line is that he is actually a very very good player at this game. Including using the who would you rather be in the final two thing. #2: You clearly have the numbers to evict Roddy or Chiara any time one of them is not HoH. You have at least a 4-1 chance to beat Roddy in the next HoH in which case you still have the numbers to vote him out. Beleive me he will not be better at finding reasons for people to keep him than Josh is. #3: I do not get the impression from last night or today that it is the HG's ignoring Josh. Rather it is him acting like a spoiled brat because his play to stay this week didn't work. He eats by himself, hangs in his bed by himself, and doesnt engage a HG since nomminated except about the game. When I have seen him be in the room talking about things other than the game they have spoken to him, and been alright towards him. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 02:50 pm     Nessie - I agree with you 100%....you nailed it. |
Gouraphik | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 03:32 pm     I have said, and will continue to say, that every HG is a threat to every other HG. Hence, one of the better strategies for any HG to use is to focus on wiping out whoever is the strongest HG at that point in time. This means that: a) If you're HOH, you nominate your #1 and #2 threats, always. No decoys. Strictly #1 vs. #2. If one of them gets Vetoed out, then you adapt to the circumstances, and throw up the #3 threat. If #3 uses the Veto, then throw up #4. b) If you're not HOH, you attempt to evict whoever is the greatest threat of those currently nominated. If both of them are threats, then you try to evict the one MOST likely to cause trouble down the road. Due to alliances and the like, you may not succeed...but you better damn sure try! c) If you've won the Veto, you use it to either remove the HG that's in your alliance, or who's a lesser threat, on the offchance that a greater threat will take their place, or leave the nom's as is if they work for you. Most HG's have taken the latter option (although I don't think it was always wise to do so). Josh is a major threat, obviously. In the end, though, all HG's are threats...it just matters where they sit in the hierarchy of houseguests. If Josh was put up against any other HG, it would be a no-brainer to evict him. However, in a Josh vs. Roddy situation, at this point in time it's best to get Roddy out. What about trying to decide who you want beside you in the top 2? Ideally, nobody should be beside you. But since you can't control who the exiled HG's will choose as the winner, it's not really worth worrying about. Take out the strongest player at every opportunity, hope and pray that they don't do it to you, and if it all works out, you'll likely get at least $50K. That ain't so bad, is it? |
Woodpecke® | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 03:33 pm     Keiffer makes excellent points. I will be sure to bring them back to the top on Thursday after Josh is eliminated from the game. |
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