Ok, Lisa drives me nuts, she must go.
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Costacat

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 07:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Methinks some of the peeps on this board need to look up the definition of love. Then look up the definition of lust. Two different things.

What555456

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 07:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Add to that, looking up "infatuation."

Also, perhaps, some reading on the pyschological reactions of being isolated with a small group of people.

Foodbunny

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 07:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa and Eric hooked up before Chiara and Roddy. If you'll recall, Chiara was completely fixated on Jason while Lisa and Eric were getting to know each other. Then she went through her week of spiteful comments about Jason being a virgin and how much that sucked while Lisa and Eric were getting closer. Then all of a sudden they are very much a couple and Chiara needs a man to make her feel desirable so she went after Roddy.

I think their attraction is mutual and sweet in a kind of sad, sappy way. And I wish nothing but the best for Lisa and Eric after the show.

Ginger

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 07:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa isn't driving me nuts about the love stuff...it's sweet enough...but what IS driving me nuts is this business (as some of you have already mentioned) about it being "unfair" that she and Eric were put up.

I wanted to SCREAM last night watching the show, listening to Lisa and sometimes Eric go on and on about how unfair it is that they've been nominated, and how they didn't deserve this, and how it "makes no sense that Josh isn't the one to go." WHO in the world do these people think they are? Do they honestly believe that Gerry, who they would put up in a heartbeat, should refrain from targeting them? WHAT on earth do they suppose the purpose of BB is? Did someone fail to inform them that the goal of the game is to EVICT people who are threats? And WHY, if they are so firm in their belief that Josh must go did they not nominate him themselves? They had three opportunities to get him out. Lisa could have nominated him, Roddy could have nominated him, and they could have voted him out when Marc put him up. Oh, but now all they can talk about is how stunned they are that "good" people have to leave while Josh stays. Huh?!

And what makes me even crazier is that no one calls them on this! If I were Gerry during those one on one talks with Lisa and Eric, I'd of asked point blank why they were suddenly so concerned about Josh NOW. I'd have cackled in their faces! It's also so fascinating that Eric and Lisa talk about the "good-hearted people" and then sit there talking about how they will give Gerry their word that they won't nominate him and then will not hesitate to break that word. Oh, yeah, that's soooo good-hearted! Not to mention all this sudden concern about how horribly Josh treated Gerry. I didn't notice them being too disturbed by this behavior back when it was happening. Oh no, it was just fine back then, when they still thought they had the power.

Ok--end of rant!

Julieboo

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 08:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Excellent post Ginger!!!!!! :)

Jasons_First

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 08:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fabulous post Ginger. You are so right on, I don't feel the need to add anything! :)

Nermal

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 08:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I had the same reaction to all that "fair" crap, Ginger. Ridiculous.

Did any of you have a problem with the story Eric told last night during one of their "bash Gerry" sessions? They were talking about how everyone avoids talking to Gerry. Eric was saying how it reminded him of this dorky guy in college who would come in class and say hi to the guys and they'd all totally ignore him. Pretend he hadn't even spoken. Act like he wasn't there. Then the guy would pull out his credit card and say the drinks were on him. Suddenly they'd all hear him and go off to the bar. I thought that was terrible. He doesn't seem to have changed since, either. If the guy "deserves" to be ignored like Eric implied, then you couldn't be bought for a couple beers. What a jerk.

I understand their frustration with Gerry, but also feel sorry for him. Perhaps, he talks like that at every opportunity because he's very alone. They only show him any attention or respect if they want something from him.

When Eric told that story last night, Lisa didn't say much. I hope it makes her re-examine her relationship with Eric. He's shallow and unkind. RUN LISA! I sure hope he's gone tonight. Maybe she'll start showing her personality then.

Crossfire

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 08:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Awesome post Ginger.

Crossfire

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 08:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What I find interesting about all the Gerry bashing, is how completely ridiculous it makes them all look.

I noticed this last night watching the program, I kept hearing how awful Gerry was, but there was not a single clip to back any of it up.

They are all making fools of themselves.

Abigail1970

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 08:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I doubt that one incident with Eric in college makes him shallow and unkind.

He seems to be a very nice guy who cares about others. Out of all HGs, he makes the least amount along with Jason comments about others.

Cheerleader

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 08:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Lisa's great!

Nermal

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 08:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think one incidence makes him shallow and unkind, but he told this as if this was acceptable. Seemed to blame the guy. I don't think doing something like that in the past and then feeling bad about would be so bad. What made me think he was unkind was that he showed no remorse and made no apologies for his behavior. That indicates a mindset, a pattern.

Fix2scream

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 10:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I find it sad that last nights clips showed someone from their family or friends that they miss, and Lisa's was her cat.

She couldn't think of any human person she would've liked to have heard from? I don't think the cat would have had much to say. Meow

Bmh

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 10:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I guess Lisa isn't very close to her family

Costacat

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 10:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa has said that several times; that she misses her cat. I don't think she really cared if she got the AC this week (the letter from "home").

I don't think it's that sad at all. I would probably miss my cats more -- I see them on a daily basis, and I see the rest of my family very infrequently.

And wasn't there a thread about this a while ago? About who would miss whom (or what) the most?

Snee

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 01:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
it's hard to read cat writing.

Earthmother

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 01:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Snee, for some in that house I think it might be hard to read people writing..

Earthmother

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 01:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"It's Unfair" (whine whine)

What's unfair is that it's not Thusday 10:00pm so we don't have to listen to you whine about how unfair it is.

I really don't care which one goes so long as they go and take their dulutions with them.

Avery

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 01:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Did anyone else get the impression from last night's show that Lisa and Eric are completely confident that the other one is going? I also felt they were somewhat ok with that.

Curlyq

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 01:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I got the impression that Eric was a little more okay with it than Lisa, who seemed to have the delusion that this is all about her and that Eric was only nominated because he's close to her. She feels guilty for dragging him down with her. It hasn't occurred to her that Eric is the bigger threat and it's more about getting him out.

Sia

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 02:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Earthmother, the pack of "Beautiful People" are all delusional, in my book! I can't even predict which one will be booted, but I surely hope that Eric is handed his walking-papers. I want Lisa to stay and play "heartlessly" against Chiara. My fervent hope was that Chiara would use the PoV and save Lisa, allowing Gerry to pit Eric against Roddy. I would have been delighted to see Rodzilla leave the house ahead of Eric, whom I find slightly less offensive than the Rodster.

Gina8642

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 02:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think her beauty has anything to do with her illusions. Lisa has barely talked strategy with anyone since her 'bite' - That is the reason she doesn't seem to have a clue about what is going on in the house.

If she stays, which it looks like she will, she will need to wise up!!

BTW - Lisa doesn't drive me nuts in the least. I'm not sure why she does everyone else. At least with the rest of the HGs I usually get where people's complaints are coming from, but Lisa just doesn't grate me much. (Well, except for ragging on Gerry - that grates me.)

But everyone is get to have their own opinions.