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Lulu | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 12:04 am     I believe Roddy set up this nomination, not Chiara. After the noms and Josh freaking out he said to Kiki "That didn't go as well as I planned." He factored everything,(Tho he may have miscalculated his support in the house, LOL!). It's a risk ( I'm sure he thinks its minimal, Hehehe!) but if his plan works he will accomplish many things. First, having decided that outcast Gerri will do as well in the final two as despised Josh, he targets Josh for eviction and starts planting the idea in everyone's head.He runs the numbers and decides he can beat Josh and that this is the time to take a risk if there is one. He gives several lame excuses as to why he can't control Kiki's noms when everybody knows he could and lets himself be put up knowing - Josh will go crazy and hang himself, Josh will still vote for him at the end, the others probably won't use the veto for fear of having their friends/alliances put up ( he thinks ) and finally that he can use this against Chiara at some point - and make it her fault. Imagine this ( after the vote of course ): R- You put me up without even asking me. C- You suggested it first! Why didn't you stop me? R- It was a test- and you failed. If you really cared about me you wouldn't have risked putting me on the block. Blah, blah, blah. He creates some distance, plays it neutral for a while, playing her out and reeling her in as circumstances demand until he can get someone to else to get her out. He leaves her with hope that they will maybe be together on the outside and she gives him her vote if he gets to the end. IMO, Roddy's downfall will be his belief that he's so much smarter than everyone else that they can't figure him out. But people smart is not the same as book smart. My downfall will be trying to decide if I want him to go NOW or watch him play for a while longer. I don't want him to win but I think he's fascinating to watch! |
Jedidiyah | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 12:24 am     Sorry, Lulu, but I don't beleive in your scenario. First of all, there is no evidence that Roddy had a hand in this, he looked astonished when she came up with it. Second, if I recall correctly a few days ago he specifically asked her not to use veto out of fear that he would be on the block. What would have changed his mind so drastically? Third, seeing Eric go certainly gave him a clue on how little he can control the house. And take chances after that? Fourth, he doesn't need any (more) excuses to put Chiara up when necessary. Just replay one of the scenes between them that we've seen in past weeks. No risk and the desired effect is achieved. Finally, what's an advantage in having Josh's vote against Gerry rather than Gerry's vote against Josh if he does see one of them in the finals with him? |
Maryann | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 05:42 am     Roddy would have been TOAST with me if he started that nonsense about "it was a test and you failed" stuff. I think that C had a chance to get rid of him and she used it..maybe not consciously ..but I can't imagine Nicole or Will putting each other up..so I just think that maybe C is as much of a player as Roddy. He has only himself to blame if he's evicted. |
Maris | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 05:53 am     This has been a very tough week for Roddy. First of all the shock that he totally misread how the voting was going to go which resulted in his losing his closes ally. That was followed by the positive news that Chiara was HOH. I am sure in his mind that he believed he would be able to dictate to her who to nominate and would control who was being evicted in the house then BAM Chiara his puppet tells him she is putting him up against Josh. He desperately tries to get her to change her mind without of course coming out and asking her to change her mind, but she would not budge. He has Josh go ape revealing all alliances and secrets and he is forced to beg Josh to stop talking for the peace of the house. The scene last night where he is begging Josh not to talk to Dani anymore was a picture of pure desperation. He has no idea how to get back in control and he is still reeling from the fact that he doesn't read people as well as he thought. Is Chiara someone he can count on? Will he do a quid pro quo and put Chiara up next week if he gets HOH? What is Dani's game? Did he underestimate Jason? Will Josh win POV? |
Angelbleu | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 06:43 am     "R I could've stayed out of it if I wanted to and don't you think I'm aware of that. R there's a chance that these guys could go after me and I put muself up there for you" He sure is making sure he has Josh's vote at the end isn't he????? I PUT MYSELF UP......puuuuuleeeeezzzzzeee!!! LOL we all know how happy he is about THAT!!!! LOL |
Ginger | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 08:29 am     But wait...to clarify, Roddy may very well have been surprised when Chiara actually DID nominate him, but indeed he was the one to come up with the idea in the first place, so it wasn't a complete shock. I think it was even on the live TV show on Thursday. Roddy and Chiara were sitting in one of the bedrooms after the HOH competition, which Chiara won. Roddy said something like, "I'm thinking of letting you put me up against Josh as a decoy..." So, yes, he did say it first. Chiara took it and ran with it. |
Csnog | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:06 am     If Dani, Marcie and Gerry don't make their move and evict Roddy they will be toast. Lying is part of the game and making promises to not vote or nominate someone is getting in the way. Are they in there to be friends or to win $500 g's? Somewhere, someone in either group must decide if they are in to make pacts or in to win the money. Time is running out for making deals. Dani is thinking in the correct direction and we shall see if she is as strong a player as we thought. Playing the game, playing the game, playing the game. |
Ginger | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:14 am     If Dani, Gerry and Marc don't get it together to make their move to boot Roddy NOW, I can't see how they think they will win this game. I think it's fascinating how Jason seems to have (temporarily, I hope) put his feelings for Roddy and Chiara ahead of his game playing. This scenario right here is what I find the most fascinating about BB: watching people put their feelings about fellow contestants ahead of the effort to win the game. Jason appears to be doing this if he votes to keep Roddy in. And I think Chiara did it last week when she let her negative personal feelings about Lisa dictate her decision to try to evict her--bad tactical move, I believe. |
Costacat | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:36 am     Excuse me while I pick myself up off the floor. I am amazed at Roddy's arrogance: "I'm thinking of letting you put me up against Josh as a decoy..." He'll LET Chiara do that? OMG!! Ginger, how the heck did I miss that one? |
Becca | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:36 am     Jason has no problem voting to evict Roddy. However, he took a high high risk evicting Eric. Everyone is doubting his word, and it made him almost get nominated. rod has told josh and Chiara that Jay blow the deal of a lifetime. He needs to lay low because everyone is questioning him right now. Chiara forced him into that swear, and he knew if he didn't swear that (he could be on the block.) plus, Dani, Marc, and Jason don't want to make thier alliance obvious to the rest of the house and voting twice in a row the same (two straight weeks might make it that way.) I also think Jay takes his vows seriously. However, if Roddy threatens him, he may change his mind. Plus, he did say something to dani about it, if Rod goes, Chiara can't get HOH, next week. Jason has refused to unequivically swear to never put Rod or Chiara up. He just said against Josh (who has his number) he will have Roddy's back. |
Bmh | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:41 am     I think we are counting to much on D/G/M/L on maybe voting to evict Roddy..I mean they have to think about after he is gone..how will they be looked it?...they will never be trusted again..I mean of course this is the move of the century..but they have to think of the backlash of gettin rid of roddy |
Cajunrambler | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:46 am     Even if they weren't trusted again, it will be them against Chiara. I have a feeling Eric will return. It will be G/D/M/Ja/L against C and L unless L joins up with C and L. |
Cajunrambler | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:57 am     Sorry, I meant to sat Chiara and Eric. |
Bmh | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:59 am     If Roddy stays and Eric comes back Eric will have alot of influence from both Rod and Lisa....Lisa could very well convince Eric to get rid of both C/R and join up with D/J/M and then all 5 could get rid of G/Jo |
Oregonfire | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:05 am     They have got to figure out a way to get rid of Roddy with a minimal about of backlash. They just have to! I couldn't bear to see him in the final two after everyone had the chance to get rid of him. Then again, the opportunity *may* arise again, but what a gamble! The guy is capable of winning a few more HOH, I say. Josh hasn't won any, and could be put up again soon, though he might have a friggin' heart attack if he gets put up one more time. I still say they unanimously vote to get rid of Roddy, which reduces backlash for all. Then again, those who noticably voiced their loyal support for Roddy, namely Jason and Danielle, will get more flack for the fall out. There has to be way around this problem. Think, hgs, think! |
Indybarb | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:08 am     they have not asked jason yet, have they? wonder what he will do ? |
Maris | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:09 am     The way around the problem is for someone to tell Chiara that Roddy is playing her. Marc can tell her that Roddy is the one who searched Amy out and got that little fight going. Gerry can tell Chiara about the conversation he had with Eric and Roddy very early on about getting the women out first and Lisa can tell her about the conversation she had with Eric and Roddy where Roddy said that Chiara was a liability and a concern. Get Chiara so steamed that she tells everyone to vote Roddy out. That gets jason and everyone else off the hook. And that is how they should do it. |
Indybarb | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:21 am     marie....don't think she would EVER believe them and would go running to roddy to warn him so he could tell her what to do.... |
Csnog | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:26 am     Remember that once the game is over and there are two left standing, the evicted HG's will think about HOW the last two played the game. They may NOT like the last 2 but most of them will base their vote on how they played the game. Some will slide through and be around for awhile but will never make it to the final's. We tend to root for the HG's because of our likes and dislikes of them. I don't think when the evicted HG's vote, that they will think about anything but how they played the game. Nobody can reach the final 2 without lying and a little backstabbing. That's the name of the game. |
Csnog | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:31 am     Forgot to add that Dani is the BEST player in the house "NOT" Roddy. Dani boot him out or it may come back to haunt you. What a week this could be. Boot Roddy and put up Chiara next week. Dani will never get another chance like this. I hope she has the guts to follow through. |
Ginger | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:36 am     That's right, Csnog, I mean WILL won last year! Who would have ever believed THAT midway through the game? And yes, Costacat, Roddy did say he might "let" Chiara nominate him as a decoy! Anyone else wanna back me up on that? I'm quite sure I heard that right. Oh...and why do we have two active threads concerning whether Roddy will go on Thursday or not? |
Spunky | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:46 am     Well, then if Roddy suggested be put up and Chiara actually did it, makes Roddy one bad gambler and makes Chiara a better player. I think Roddy was over confident of Chiara's devotion to him. Serves him right. However, out of the two nominated I still want Josh to go. Roddy's turn will come soon enough when Dani finally wins HOH. If she doesn't, then she'll go.. |
Bmh | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:54 am     I know as much as I want Roddy out..I cant stand Josh any longer...I mean his behavior yesterday was terible..he is a friggin lunatic..get him outta there..he is so annoying..just get rid of Josh now before he ends up in the final like Will did..do it now..this is the hg's chance..hmm tough decsion for the hg's roddy or josh..roddy or josh..lol |
Ellenkats | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:55 am     Bmh -- I think most of us want Josh out. But you have to evict Roddy while you can. The chance to oust Roddy doesn't come along every week -- the chance to oust Josh does. |
Spunky | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:58 am     Not if Gerry wins HOH again and will save Josh once more. Looks to me if Josh doesn't go now he will stay for the long run.. Roddy will still lose in the end against Jason....oops Josh too for that matter. Oh well... |
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