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Chancesdesign

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 02:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Marcie is talking to Dani outside. Sounds like he wants to walk out. Dani says he shouldn't go but if he does, she will support him.

Shan

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 02:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What happened that made him that upset??? Josh telling him that he would have been out the first week if Gerry hadn't saved him?????

Tootseug

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 02:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Dani is the one who brought up "walking" to Marci.

Strkaholic

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 02:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I heard it differently, Dani encouraged him to walk out IMO..she brought it up, not Marcellas and in fact, he said he could not. IMO, I dont think Dani is sincere..she wants M to walk so she can vote R out. This is just my opinion, but I can't see any other reason for her to bring it up.

Jan

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 02:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
see MArc in tears for explanation why he is cryoing..it brought back his childhood

Chancesdesign

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 02:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I guess he had been thinking that he brought everyone around to his side and that they would have voted out Lori even if Gerry had not saved him. Now he is feeling very insecure and unloved.

He just said he would "stay and fight." And he asked Dani to keep Gerry away from him. What is that about? Why is he mad at Gerry?

Maris

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 02:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think he just doesnt want Gerry patting him on the back and serving up his platitudes. He is afraid he will blow.

Off2cthwizrd

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 02:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was just going to ask the same thing, Chance. Why did he ask Dani to keep Gerry away from him? Why isn't he mad at Roddy for orchestrating it all?

Strkaholic

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 02:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What do you mean, R orchestrating it all??

Shan

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 02:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He just found out that Gerry really did "save" him.... why would he be mad at him?? You would think it would make him rethink who he can trust in the house.

Draheid

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 02:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The way I heard it, I agree with Strkaholic ... Danielle brought the thought into the conversation. Repeatedly saying she would support him ... only after about the 5th time, did she seem to say, "I don't want you to, but..." ...

Danielle lost points with me on that conversation!

JMO - FWIW

Ginger1218

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 02:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, I like Marc, but he needs to just get over this. Jeez, they are all voting and sneaking around against each other, and talking about each other, sooooo they were gonna vote him - he is still there and needs to stop crying - give it up.

C1mag

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 02:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My God this moment is a bit childish if you ask me. Josh was not being brutal just being honest. I honestly believe Marcellus was having a major drama queen, please feel sorry for me moment. I didn't hear Dan say what some are saying she said but if she did I find that insulting and very self serving. I want this moment to pass because it's just too pathetic. I've hated that Marc has been rude to Gerry because even as a fan of Marc's I have said that without Gerry he wouldn't be in this game and I've always fealt that way. Perhaps Marcellus won't admit it but it's true.

Strkaholic

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 02:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1, Dani said it repeatedly, she brought it up and it really pissed me off...can you tell??? LOL. She talks about Josh playing the game 24/7 and how bad that is...take a look in the mirror, she does the same thing. IMO this time, she went too far.

Cameltoes

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 02:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
See this is the kind of thing that Dani does that irritates me. The stuff about his leaving seemed so out of left field. She's usually the first to tell someone to keep fighting and stay strong.

Off2cthwizrd

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 02:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, I guess I should have said the "sixpack" - but since Roddy has been the head since the beginning, I was mainly thinking of him. My bad...

Jan

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 02:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think, as so happens in life, it's all about childhood. In conversation with Dani , Marci said:
" it's always a popularity contest. I have to be liked." ANd Dani
said..you're flashing back to childhood aren't you.

He is, as been observed on this board by many people, very very insecure. I assume growing up black and gay in this society of ours didn't help any with that. FOr him, life is all about being liked.

Curlyq

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 02:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I seem to recall Danielle and Marcellas having a conversation yesterday(?) about how Marcellas is tired of this game and ready to go. His attitude seemed to be that if they put him up again he won't fight it because he's sick of the whole thing. So maybe Danielle was going back to that conversation when she talked about supporting him IF he wanted to leave. Still tacky timing though.

Chancesdesign

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 02:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
When I first came in on the conversation, it was Dani that was talking. She kept saying, "I will support you if you feel you need to leave. If it has gotten unbearable for you." Marcie was crying and didn't say a lot.

It did sound like Dani was encouraging Marcie to walk. He then said something like, "But I can't go." And Dani said "Of course you can't, but if you do I will support you. But you can't."

I got the distinct feeling she wanted him to walk, but I thought I would give her the benefit of the doubt and assume MArcie brought up walking first. If Dani first suggested it, that really stinks.

Jaysgal

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 02:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What's wrong with Marcellas? This is so weird. Marcellas will have headlines "The Traumatic Childhood of a Loving Man". "Why I'm Gay". LOL! I'm kidding, but he's being too dramatic. I didn't expect this from him, unless he was hoping to use it to sway people or justify his intent to evict Roddy.

Or maybe he doesn't like all of the attention that Josh is getting. :P I mean, he couldn't truly be traumatised by that news when he wasn't so traumatised with the unanimous vote of his best friend on the show. Anyway, I hope he feels better sooner. I would think that he would care more about Gerry, not be distancing himself more. But I guess that may establish that he is truly acting this one to build more of that impression that he is distant from Gerry.

Bmh

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 02:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ya Im a little pissed at Dani too about the comments she made to Marcie..but Marcie constantly says how he hates the game and he wants to leave and how he doesn't want to be here anymore..so Dani was just giving marcie the suggestion he wanted..Josh really screwed up you guys..Roddy aint going any where now...

Jadebutterfly

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That seems to be true Jan. I remember Marcellus going on at some length last week to someone (Chiara maybe?) that he felt no gratitude to G for vetoing him because he felt he would have won the vote and not been evicted. To have that belief shot down...it had to hurt. I think the others are deluded when they say they wouldn't have voted for him. He**, isn't that why they've been so ticked at Gerry? They (L,E,C,R) wanted him to leave the nominations alone. Just because they feel NOW that they wouldn't have voted Marcellus out four weeks ago doesn't make it true. They've 'forgotten' how badly they all wanted him gone. Just because they like him now, doesn't make Josh wrong.(for once!)

C1mag

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I will say this about Dani... Ever since Eric got the boot she has been almost freaked out on the game. She couldn't hold off telling Lisa about Kiki's betrayl which surprised me. I would have played that card after I heard the nominations. Then once Dani heard Roddy was on the block she has literally been pacing around the house trying to figure out a way too get Roddy out. I watched her last night pacing the bb court talking to herself saying, "Think Dani, Think!" Then when Marc tells her that maybe it would be best to just back off this week since the core of the house wants Josh out and then go after Rod and Chi next week. She couldn't deal with that so instead of thinking how she should present it she lays out a plan to Gerry which totally took him off guard. He didn't say how he would go on it but would think about it. She tried every tactic including that Roddy isn't a man of God. I think Dani is going to play herself out of this game. She's too paranoid. When Josh told her that she didn't have a chance in hell of winning with the girls in the game she freaked on that issue. She went outside to Roddy and asked him if he was going to put her up if he was hoh next week. She said Josh told her that to which he replied, "Lets go get Josh" she freaked and said, "please don't" However, the weird thing is that Josh never mentioned Roddy's name. I'm telling you she wants this money too bad and at some point she's gonna blow it. Telling or suggesting to Marc that he should go totally sucks and I hope once his little drama is over that he realizes what she said. She has went waaaaaay down on my "Q" meter for all of this. I hope Marcellus beats her to the finish line.

Bmh

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ya it doesn't make Josh wrong..they are wrong..but they have to defend themselves and make Marcie feel better..

Kellirippa

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Why is that when Jason explains that although he too wanted Marc. out the first week, he is sorry, Marcel made an amazing turn around..., it sounds lovely? Isn't that in a nutshell (or nuthouse, as the case may be), exactly what Gerry said in his infamous speech that has him hated to this day?