Will there be more "unexpected" - Some Hgs get 2 chances??
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Pamy

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ryn..saying things like that may get Marcellas excited!

Buzzbyjoe

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ryn: BB1 wasn't there 3 on the final show? Curtis was evicted then Joshy and Eddie were left for the others to vote on? That would make scenario #1 or #2 possible? Just wondering along with you all.

Draheid

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Buzzbyjoe: You are correct, there were three on the final day ... by popular vote, Curtis only got 14% and left first ... remember, though, this was a phone in vote for the winner..BB3 is different, at least for the moment!

FWIW

Buzzbyjoe

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Draheid: thanks for the memory refresher. You are right about this being different alright. BB3, "expect the unexpected" as BB said himself. I just love this game :)

Draheid

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Buzzbyjoe: I have to confess. I have the archive from the last 2 years on my computer and I have been randomly reviewing them for some good memories so when you asked, it was easy to go look. :)

Hotty_Toddy

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 12:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I seriously doubt this will be repeated this season. They might throw something else out, but is just like on Survivor when they switched three members from each tribe around on S3. It was close to the middle of the game, but too late to affect any of the alliances, which were very solid by then. So on the next go around, they did it much earlier and it DID affect alliances and shake up the outcome as intended. One of the switchees even went on to win the game.

It just doesn't make sense to continue to keep bringing the people back in. It just gets too complicated, long, and aggravating. At some point, you have been in there long enough to sink or swim and it can't be said that you didn't have your chance. Five weeks is certainly valid. You can't extend it too far or the returning HG could be too big a cog and already had such a long time to bond and gain knowledge, as well as accrue airtime. The early ones have missed a lot and their positions aren't carved in stoned yet. Even Eric--think how much he has missed already. This couldn't have been a late breaking plan because Lori was sequestered from the beginning.

Wendo

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 04:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If Lori comes back in and gets evicted, I don't think she'd get ANOTHER second chance, she'd go home.

I see this only happening once; it just can't work any other way to allow all the evictees a second chance and still stay on schedule. And, honestly, I really don't see the person who comes back in staying and winning, there would just be too much resentment. That person, though they may be protected the first week, would likely get the boot the next week, and we'd be back to the people who were there in the first place.

Nanarobin

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 04:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, RYN you are not like my son at all!!

but I agree on T and her tatas not coming back for good tv...she is so fake....and I must agree with another previous thread that she SURE did appear to have had some further augmentation...perhaps the leaking B@@B was fixed and refilled...REALLY refilled!!

JMHO

Guiltyviewer

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 04:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The hgs were talking about this tonight as a matter of fact, and they were thinking that one evictee from the first group of four will be selected to re-enter the house this week, then after the next four evictees are out, there would be another 'second chance' entry from Evictees #5-#8's group.

Don't think this would fit the timetable either though, unless there were some week(s) with more than one evictee...???

Grannygrunt

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 06:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Just a thought.........what if the 4 evicted HG compete and one wins. BB takes away the POV. That winner competes with the one evicted that week. (So even if you were nom and risked the chance of the vote going against you, every house guest would be given a second chance.) And whoever wins that competion gets to stay. That way the evicted HG's gets a CHANCE to come back in and play for the big money. The outcome of every week would still be the same. Only one nom/evicted hg stays.

Ryn, figure it out and see if that would keep the amount of people that would stay the same as if there was no evicted HG's coming back. Wouldn't the number of HG still go down each week?

My brain may be in overtime. Just too much thinking. Trying to figure out how every HG could get a second chance just like the others. I really think that after this week, CBS will send the other evicted HG home. And CBS will only have to keep one evicted HG for an extra week.

Dfwteddy

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 07:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Whit4you: "...but I have felt that way...since George's departure in BB I ... BB played god in his life by sharing inside info with the contestants."

Please clarify, as I don't recall what happened there. Thanks!

Kminfinity

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 09:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Here's another scenario describing how the "returning HG" + evictions" could work---not sure how it would affect the TV schedule :

The returning HG and the noirmal two nominees are all on the block. And then either :

a. voting is in a process of elimination style, in two rounds--more TV drama???

b. the voting is still one round, but they vote for who they want to keep in the house, and the 2 losers are evicted that same nite.

Grannygrunt

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 09:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
and Kmin, they do it on live TV, no DR votes and everyone knows who voted for whom to stay. And who they didn't vote to stay. No more running around trying to figure out the vote or someone telling in secret how the vote went down.

Bladewelder

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ryn - I read on another website this morning that the sequestering of the HG's was a one time deal. I don't know exactly how reliable that is but I'm hoping it's not true. I'd love to see Josh come back in another time just to drive the others nuts!!!

Here's the link - read Announcements

http://www.bb3online.com/editx/

Ryn

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 09:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I dunno where you read it...... no article I coule see there, LOTS of rumors.

People posting there also say the returning HG will also be HoH automatically), no waaaayyy would that happen.

Crazydog

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 09:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think the next batch of four will be given a second chance like the first batch. BB is not trying to make everything fair for the houseguests, they are trying to make it interesting for viewers. The return has already made it interesting because it was unexpected. It was funny to see Marcellus say something like, if I had known I could have spent weeks in Mexico and then come back I gladly would have gone out the first week. You can bet that for BB4 the new houseguests will be considering a possible return - on Survivor 4 they and we kept anticipating a switch and it never happened.

I think the current houseguests are assuming too much, that this will be done for evictees 5 through 8 and I think they will probably be wrong. The return has already served its purpose. It has made them strategize to include the possibility of another return, even though they will likely be given no confirmation. It keeps them on their toes and prevents a "now we can coast" attitude that has been displayed most prominently by Dani.

Nermal

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 09:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The HG's have talked about a meeting they had with BB yesterday where Abagail (I think was her name) answered some of their questions about the sequestering. They indicated that they probably would NOT be sequestered or sent off to Mexico like the first four. They also indicated that the returning guest wouldn't automatically be made the HOH this week. This is just what Roddy and a couple others indicated yesterday after this meeting. Before that meeting they were concerned about each group of 4 being given a chance to come back in the house. They seem to not think that's the case anymore. Everytime they start talking about that meeting they go to the FOTH, so I am having to read between the lines a little.

Crazydog

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 09:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Nermal. I guess the problem is that we didn't see that meeting so we won't be able to interpret it for ourselves. That is, we don't know the exact phrasing of the information they were told and it's quite possible the rehashing from the houseguests is just their interpretation. I think the houseguests tend to assume too much and I like the fact that they cannot be content with knowing how everything turns out.

Nutsy

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
*scratching head*
Didn't they do a switch on the last Survivor? The gals all ended up with the judge fella, and the "Godfather" guy's "strategy" got all mixed up?

I think once they introduce a twist like this, CBS is likely to keep it, depending on what it does for the ratings. Based on the amount of discussion the BB3 twist has generated on these boards, I'd say it's a keeper.

Crazydog

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Nutsy, of course you're right, I had forgotten that there was a switch and went temporarily insane! I just don't like when players assume they know everything about how the game is run and I like the fact that things should be continually twisted around.

Aria

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Early on in BB3 someone posted a link to an interview with AS. In the article he stated that he had a "few" surprises for the HG this year.

To me "few" means three. Thus, we have had the Veto, now the return of an evictee, that makes two. Maybe he has something different up his sleeve for the third twist.

Kellirippa

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 12:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
....hmmm...if the hg's implement this revolving door deal do you (and by you, I mean you reading this, ya you!) think that this, bring an evictee back "twist" would make it into BB4? It's kind of like the ~give somebody your immunity twist ~ in Survivor, no one used it, kind of a lead balloon.

Whit4you

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 12:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well I'm almost positive the returning HG will NOT be HOH, but will not be eligible for nom's the first week. (That's how it's been done in the past)

At the very least I'm positive that they won't automatically be HOH.

Crazydog

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 07:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Whit4you, that's how it's been done in the past, where? No HG has ever returned on any of the three Big Brothers yet. Are you referring to any returns that may have happened on foreign Big Brothers? I don't think precedence on a foreign Big Brother has any weight here. Even if they are run by the same production company, I wouldn't say they would have to be the same.

Whit4you

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 08:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Crazy - didn't mean to imply that it would have to be the same.. just saying that's how it's been done in the past.

For example in the OZ BB they brought in two new players about half way through..those two players had immunity - could not be put up for nom's NOR vote the first week. One of the two was so upset by the end of the week that she could NOT vote lol. That one was outta the house the following week and I believe the other one was out a week or two later....

Costacat

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 09:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
In the article on bb3online.com, Arnie states:

"All of this year's houseguests watched last year and came in with their elaborate strategies for winning the game," he told Daily Variety. "We wanted to change that."

And also:

"Meanwhile, CBS has confirmed that the "Big Brother 3" finale will air Wednesday, Sept. 25, at 9 p.m. Not surprisingly, that's when ABC plans to air the season premiere of the sequel to its spring reality hit "The Bachelor." "

To read the entire article go to Big Brother Opens House to Returnees.

Mystery

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 11:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm wondering if after the new HG comes in tonight, the rest will be sent home. I'm going to be in Las Vegas from Thursday to Sunday (missing some good stuff on BB!) and maybe I'll see Tonya around!