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Marc told Gerry he is hygenically challenged:
Archive through August 12, 2002
Texastillie | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:24 am     He privately told Gerry about the HGs perceptions in a very nice way. Gerry pointed out a few of the other HG's nasty habits. GOOD JOB, MARCELLAS! <Sorry, didn't know thread already started. Mods, please move.> |
Goddessatlaw | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:28 am     PTL, PTL, PTL. It was very nicely said, although maybe not as firmly suggested as it could be. Nonetheless, thank god Marcellas at least took an adult step in the right direction. |
Nermal | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:29 am     Marcellas has handled this extremely well. I am impressed! I hope this helps solve this problem. Gerry is taking it well. He did mention what others are doing. He's right, but that doesn't change the perception. And perception and approval are everything. Gerry is taking it with a good attitude too. I think it hurts and he wants to argue with some of them who are pretty gross, but is mature enough to realize that it wouldn't help him in the game. |
Woodpecke® | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:30 am     I saw it and Marcellus did it perfectly. It was said as firmly as it could have been. Any stronger and it would have been nasty. Too many people want to make Gerry the scapegoat. |
Oregonfire | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:34 am     Well done, Marcellas. Doing it in the morning and alone was very thoughtful. I hope Gerry doesn't feel too badly, and I certainly hope this does not make it to the show. The whole tv viewing world doesn't need to know about Gerry's hygiene habits. |
Car54 | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:34 am     I love Marcellus. He is a very good person. I hope he wins HOH so he can have a private room next week and recharge his batteries a bit. He is my absolute favorite and I hope he wins it all. (And I NEVER have favorites!) |
Goddessatlaw | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:35 am     Gerry just gave me a display of brains I didn't expect, either. Marc and Gerry just went way up on my list. Good for both of them. Interesting comment he made about Danielle, though - is that why she didn't want Marc to talk to Gerry? Because she knew that G would know the source of the kitchen sink gripe and her duplicity on the situation? |
Hippyt | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:35 am     I know Marcellas had to tell him,and he did a great job. I swear though ,sitting here looking at the hurt look on Gerry's face is sad! I feel for him,let them turn him into the scapegoat,and watch the audience become Gerry fans!!!! People love the underdog. |
Oregonfire | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:37 am     What did he say about Dani, Goddess? I have the feeds but am lazy. Thanks. |
Shadowkat | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:38 am     I feel sorry for Gerry too, but I'm glad Marc decided to talk to him privately other than doing it in a meeting as originally planned. That would have been far more humiliating for Gerry. Gerry has also mentioned how shallow most people in the house are, so I think he's also putting this "complaint" into perspective. |
Kador | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:40 am     Gerry asked Marc who brought up the "washing clothes in the sink" incident, but Marcellas didn't want to say. Gerry went on to say that if it was Dani, he had to re-evaluate his feelings and trust towards her because he specifically asked her if it bothered her when he did it and she told him "no". Marcellas went on to try to defuse thingsa and said that Dani was probably just trying to be polite and not hurt his feelings. |
Goddessatlaw | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:40 am     Oregon - regarding Gerry washing his clothes in the kitchen sink. He asked Marcellas who was griping about that, because at the time he was doing the washing he asked Danielle if that was OK, he she said sure. Gerry said he would need to reevaluate his relationship with Danielle if in fact she had said OK to his face then went and grumbled behind his back. |
Mitzvahmaidl | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:41 am     I feel so bad for Gerry. There are others in the house with worse habits, yet they all rag on him. They just won't cut him any slack! |
Oregonfire | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:44 am     Thanks Goddess and Kador! |
Hillbilly | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:45 am     It's called the wolf pack mentality. Find the weak member, pack up on them, and tear them to shreds. |
Jaysgal | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:45 am     Gosh, some people are overprotecting or overdefending Gerry. I think he needs to know this. If he cannot take it maturely, it is his problem. I can understand that people tend to exaggerate things and they probably have flaws of theirs too. But that does not change the fact that Gerry does have hygiene issues. My beef with the houseguests was not telling Gerry. Marcellas is too much drama for me. I commend him for doing this, but why did he have to show all of that drama? He loves drama. It is fun to watch, but it isn't fun to live with. I couldn't ever live with a drama person like Marcellas. Anyway, at this point, Gerry is responsible for what he gets if he fails to endeavour to change his ways. At this point, I won't feel sorry anymore if he makes no effort to start to mend his habits. They don't cease overnight, but he must show efforts to. He can pick on them just once in a blue moon when he catches them doing something just as nasty. They'll still speak badly of him, but that's why he should do it just once in a blue moon. I hope he now believes Josh about them all hating him. I don't Roddy really hates him, but Roddy couldn't care the least either and Jason is probably indifferent. |
Wendo | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:46 am     Well, I'm glad to see that Marcellas rose to the occassion and acted like an adult. He handled a delicate situation as best as can be expected in that fishbowl. It doesn't completely absolve him in my eyes of his endless bashing the past few days, but I think that will come in a few days. The true test will be whether the "pack" continues it's bashing of Gerry, and Marcellas steps up to confront it, or decides to join it again. We'll see. But, I am happy to see progress made. |
Cameltoes | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:47 am     The perception point is important. It's one thing that they all do things without thinking... I don't care about those little things no matter who it is. If it's wrong to rag on Gerry for unintentional hygienic mistakes then it's wrong to do it to the others. However, I think with Gerry it got to the point where people were thinking there was some intent. While I don't like their approach, I do think some of his actions dumbfounded them. It's like how they got on Amy for not thinking of others. Some actions seem to indicate lack of consideration. Granted they took things to far as an excuse to vent on him but it doesn't mean there isn't a kernel of truth to their concerns. Anyway, I am glad Marcellas dealt with it and I think he did it very well. |
Goddessatlaw | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:49 am     Actually, Jaysgal's onto something - I hope Gerry goes out of his way to point out every unhygenic event committed by another HG which occurs around him - at the time it happens, and in front of as many people as possible. Why not? Geese and ganders - they all deserve it. They don't like him anyway, so he may as well let them have it. |
Aus10 | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:50 am     As soon as G said he'd stop cooking I cringed. I can hear Chia griping now about him not doing any of the work. These people are not happy without having someone to gang up on. And as soon as Josh is gone, they'll be right back on G like stink on sh*t. |
Battlestar | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:50 am     good grief----I didn't know he had asked Danielle if she thought it was okay!! Yep--changes your perspective quite a bit |
Wendo | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:52 am     Jaysgal, are you watching the feeds? Gerry took the information maturely and gracefully. I'm sure he didn't enjoy it and it hurt, but he handled it A LOT better than some of the other HG's would have. And, enough about Gerry's hygiene issues! Please. We humans are not perfect. His are no worse nor better than the rest of them. Let's give Gerry a chance before saying "we won't feel sorry for him if he doesn't mend his ways." He's just received this info (which I'm sure hurt his feelings), give him some time to process it. |
Bidasea | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:55 am     I totally agree with you Wendo..I would much rather see each "hygenic offense"dealt with as it comes up, than talked about behind G. back..If it is something that bothers you that much, say something at the time. The true test will be if Mar. really doesn't talk, and laugh about this with the rest of the pack..If Mar. goes right back to bashing, then all this was for nothing. How hard is it to say" please get off my bed. I don't want you to pick dead skin and throw it on my sheets" Gerry might try not to cough now, but he needs to be aware of all the other bad habits.But..at least this is a start. |
Costacat | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:58 am     I am very impressed with both Marcellas and Gerry. I am so glad that both of them discussed this in a logical, mature fashion. Marcellas broached an awkward subject, and Gerry responded graciously. I do NOT hope that Gerry decides to point out the hygienic flaws of the other HGs. There is no need for him to stoop to that level. That age-old adage applies here... you know the one... about catching more flies with honey! |
Nurdreams | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:58 am     Just an observation of mine Fly's LFP entry at 11:52pm BB time: "Jason asking Mar if BB is going to call everyone to the DR Mar says he don't know it's weird!" I am wondering if BB encouraged Marc to have a private conversation with Gerry or if he did this on his own. |
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