Archive through August 08, 2002
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Archive through August 08, 2002
Kmjm | Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 10:59 pm     Well gee, earthmother, I actually really enjoy watching Lisa grope her thick headed boyfriend. I generally don't see enough expressions of open affection, maybe that's just me. Porn, in contrast, has nothing to do with affection. Anyhow, as you note, after tomorrow, you will be spared the sight. And I will be sad!!! |
Jadebutterfly | Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 11:22 pm     You know, I'm a big romantic. I like to see people be affectionate with each other. But OMG, there is no way I would crawl around on top of someone knowing there were cameras everywhere and that it would be broadcast over the internet and on TV to 10 million people. Every time they've showed those two in bed during the show, I've felt like I was watching soft porn. And I cringed tonight listening to Lisa talk about finding something 'real' with Eric. There is nothing real going on in that house. Don't get me wrong...if they can make a relationship work on the outside, more power to them. But my gut tells me that that's just not going to happen. I really liked Lisa at first but she has morphed into this lovesick, myopic teenager whose turned this show into her own personal Dating Game. She needs to spend more time looking for her dignity again and less time worrying about what she thinks she knows about Gerry's cleanliness. Yeesh. |
Earthmother | Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 11:36 pm     exactly Jadebutterfly...They have videos you can rent if this is what you want to see. Spare the rest of us. I have no problem with seeing affection, but I don't equate mauling each other with affection. |
Wendo | Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:31 am     Bleh, I just feel Bleh about many of these people. They're so self-centered and egotistical. The only person I've seen there not fall into the group bashing mentality of Gerry is Jason. And, I do respect him for that. However, if I were in that house, I would not approve of what these people were saying about Ger and call them out on it. And, if that meant I would be tossed and lost the half mill, so be it. There's just no way I could be so cruel to another human being who has feelings, family, friends, and people who love him. Ya know, for as off center Lori became after nominations, she's the ONLY won who called these people on their behavior. I certainly have A LOT more respect for her after hearing these people today. (And, here again, it's 12:33am PST, and, yet again, Lisa, Eric, Chi, and Rod getting another dig in at Gerry's expense. Man, these people are OBSESSED. Please, let these people be internet savy and wander here so they know how most feel about them. They should be ashamed.) |
Dedonjo | Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:47 am     I'm with you Jade and Earthmother, the sex scenes need to go. I don't have the live feeds, but I'm amazed (and not comfortable at all with) even what they're showing on the t.v., during prime time when kids could be watching, or even wandering through the room where the t.v. is. It's not what I want my teenage daughter to watch, for sure. It may happen in real life, but it's not what I consider entertainment. "Reality" or not. I do find it offensive to show under the circumstances, and affection can be shown without all the (long, drawn out, melodically enhanced) "private moments". Leave something to the imagination, please. I watch for the personalities, the strategizing and psychological "drama"... I'm so glad one of them is going. I don't even care which one. And Wendo, I second yours as well. We can just hope that they are all out of the house soon, and do not get rewarded for their horrible behavior. |
Cute1073 | Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:58 am     grrrrrr.....i'm gonna vent a little here and this isn't directed at any one person. But darn people who cares if we see a couple people kissing for a few seconds on tv. I have seen horrible violence comeing from american television yet people get upset about the slightest bit of affectionate contact? I would have no problem with my children seeing what Lisa and Eric have been doing. They kiss....that is all you see...that is basically all they have been doing. The only other thing we see is covers moving and I think people's imaginations are worse than what is actually happening. I mean common people...porn? Geeze...What is considered acceptable? They have known eachother for a month and they are well over 21. WHAT IS THE BIG FRIKKIN DEAL? If people are concerned about their over 15 yr old children watching it, don't you think that is an excellent time to start talking about sex and what is appropriate and what is not? Sex and love and touching and kissing are a very natural and special part of life. It seems the only times it harms people is when people are controlling of the situation and telling and judging people's sexuality is one of those ways of trying to control Ok, i'm done venting and i'm sorry that I've probably pissed some people off but I just get very frustrated and confused with some of this backlash against acts that are actually fairly innocent. I mean common people it's not like the european BB where people are having sex out in the open. They are just showing them kissing and rubbing backs and tummys. And again I reiterate they are both WELL over 21. |
Bernie | Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 01:12 am     These houseguests, and of course dear Arnie, have cheated me out of a much anticipated run of BB3. I can't watch the live feeds because every time I do it's either watching smut, listening to smut, or feeling grubby by association because of the sheer nastiness spouted off by most of them, not to mention the fact that they are as boring as he!!, most especially Roddy who thinks that because he studied philosophy, he has the last word on any subject under the sun. I don't get much out of the live feed posts, for the same reasons - BUT - thanks very much to those who do post them...I have great respect for you all, in that you can keep on transcribing this stuff, and we definitely owe you bigtime! It's got to the stage where I only come here this year to read and enjoy the discussions, and occasionally post, (although I seem to have the Gerry effect, in that I'm usually ignored!) - BUT - thanks again to everyone here who makes it worthwhile visiting. It's like being at a party every night, even if I'm a wallflower....back to lurkmode for tonight  |
Snee | Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 01:31 am     hiya bernie! i'll come over and talk to you. i'll even bring you some punch!  |
Teresah2000 | Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 02:04 am     About the Lisa and Eric relationship or whatever it is, Lisa really thinks that she has a true and everlasting relationship with Eric. Well they might have if they both stay in the BB house forever! But once they both get out, I'm not at all sure if the relationship will go anywhere except in the sack a few times. In the BB house, they are in a different enviorment, they have no outside influnces, all they have to do all day is talk and spoon! Of course they are talking alot, but its really only about BB stuff, who doesn't like who! but on the outside, they have work, family, friends, bills, ect. what are they going to talk about then? |
Snee | Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 02:18 am     teresah, i just said something just exactly much like that in the 'lisa's gotta go' thread. it's such an artificial environment. so, 'this one time...at band camp?' although, hey, maybe not. it will be interesting to see. |
Dedonjo | Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 02:27 am     Did they show those condoms on the night table on the t.v.? I didn't notice, I looked away... I know there was no mention of that possible sexually transmitted virus. They've sure been careful to keep that - whatever it is - private. Maybe I'd be more accepting if they showed the whole story. |
Earthmother | Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 08:33 am     Look I don't mind paying my $8 bucks to go to the movies and see actors with their shirts off in the throws of intimacy, but I don't want to sit in my house and watch it when the players aren't acting. It's not the same thing, one is acting, the other is real. If you enjoy taking binoculars and watching your neighbors have foreplay, good for you, I don't. |
Jadebutterfly | Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 08:35 am     Cute, I'm not against showing love and affection at all. I'd rather the kids saw tenderness than violence any day. What I don't want them to think is that it's a good idea to go on national television and make a spectacle out of themselves complete with a cheesy porn soundtrack. Nor do I want them believing that THIS is the way to find or start a good relationship. And the extended makeout sessions they've been showing have been way more than a 'few seconds'. |
Babsbunny3 | Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 08:37 am     Well I can see why some people would get sick of it and also why some would not want their children to see it. My 10 year old neice seeing two REAL PEOPLE (not actors) in a dark room fiddling with covers and whispering and licking and kissing each other's mouths...thats a little much I think. Two young teens sharing a first kiss in the car on TV is a far cry from the L/E goings on. OTOH, I did find their dinner to be romantic even though I couldn't possibly care less about these two as game players. God they are boring. And its just basically cheesy to see these two be so self-absorbed rather than dig into the game. Yawn. They were nice for a giggly romantic dinner but now I'm bored. |
Cablejockey | Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 08:50 am     After the first week, everybody knew what to expect on this show. Also you've got night vision cameras, hgs bunking together and discussing their sex lives so you cant be too shocked and surprised by anything going on. |
Jkm | Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 08:51 am     Speaking of rude behavior, I couldn't believe the clips they showed of Josh and Gerry!!! Josh and his toy slapping Gerry's bed. What was that all about? Josh calling Gerry a Nazi to his face? I think I would not have been able to maintain myself. I would have either screamed at Josh or attempted to punch him (common sense would probably take over before that though)!!! (I'd be better at sitting on him and squishing him--). I can't believe his behavior has been that bad. -- just surprised. They are all playing the game. But enough of them trying to say who is "good" and who is "bad". Whatever they complain about the others doing -- they end up doing it too or something worse. They all lie a little (some a lot) All a part of the game. This isn't Love Boat after all. Yes they could play it with more respect for each other. Yes they have dropped to middle school level maturity at times. Arnie chose this group to get the most rile for the buck. No more Mr. Nice guy (we love everybody and don't want to kick anybody out and we'll share the money) Nope -- he wanted emotions stirred up/ personalities clashing. In my opinion, this group is very well evenly matched. I don't think any one person has any great advantage over any other person at this time. Way to may group dynamics going on here. whew! -- think I need to get my caffenine fix in. |
Earthmother | Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 08:55 am     Jkm..better put a little shot of something in that coffee we still have a few weeks to go..lol |
Carigsby | Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 09:16 am     BB isn't a show for children anyway. Manipulating, lying, swearing, backstabbing, walking around half naked - this is not a children's show. Also - anyone who as actually seen a porn would know that this is far from it. And, in the course of the game - it shows these two people being close, that plays into the game itself. This is their relationship. How these 12 people relate to one another is a key element in this game. They aren't showing intercourse, they are showing making out and whispering (actually, more whispering than anything else, it just so happens that they are laying all over each other at the time). |
Abigail1970 | Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 09:18 am     Like I always say, if ya don't like it, then turn it off. |
Teresah2000 | Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 09:22 am     Jkm, I think you might be right, Mr. Arnie know what he's doing, The BB that's on tv 3 times a week is for the few that like to watch a little reality tv. The BB thats on 24/7 live feeds are for the millions that want the real reality. The first year was a experimint, he choose REAL normal people, people like it, it worked. The second year he thought to spice it up a bit, choose a few weirdos, that worked to, this year he's going with the sex,smut theme. Some people can't and won't take all the sex stuff going on under the sheets, but come on people, thats what real people do! Thats what this game is all about, a grown-up version of the real world, but with a cool cash prize in the end. Ask yourself, why did I buy the live feed? What did I want to see? A bunch of 20-30 year olds play cards and talk about nature all day, If you were one of the HG, what would you REALLY talk about late at night with someone you like and seem to connect with? Sonner or later you would start opening up and telling you deepest and darkness thoughts and feelings, and if you were single, try hooking up with another single. The morel is, if you don't want to see the sex stuff, then don't watch. just my 2 cents I'll shut up now~~~ |
Earthmother | Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 09:30 am     The issue was it doesn't have to be on all 4 feeds..then you can watch what you want and so can I. |
Boberry | Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 10:06 am     BB3 is not anywhere close to "a grown up version of the real world with a cool cash prize in the end." It is so far from the real world that to even contemplate forming a relationship, IMO, would be the last thing you would want to do, whether you were single, married, divorced or widowed. The people are there to play a game, not "hook up". Personally, what Eric and Lisa do together to me is nothing close to soft porn; however, it is personal and has nothing to do with the entire point of the show and I find it boring and I think it detracts from the rest of the show. You can open up to people and share your thoughts and feelings without having to enter into some intense relationship with someone. I have to wonder, too, if some people feel like it is an intrusion when the feeds are only showing 2 hgs when there are so many other people in the house. I'm not going to stop watching BB3 because I love it and while the L/E connection is irritating and boring to me, I have to agree with Earthmother that there is no need for all 4 feeds to ever be on one person (or one set/couple of people). Why have 4 feeds if that is all they are going to do? another 2 cents added |
Jkm | Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 10:23 am     Reminds me of "If you were stranded on a desert island, who would you want to be with you?" |
Babsbunny3 | Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 10:24 am     Ahhh the famous, "if you don't like it, don't watch" argument. However, I would say, if you watch and you don't like it you have every right to discuss your dislike on the boards...without people telling you to sit down and shut up. (or turn it off.) Or perhaps I could say, "If you don't like complaints about BBIII, don't read them." Not really a nice way of putting it is it?? Granted its not a children's show, but 12-17 year olds are watching it and CBS knows it. Personally I would not allow my children to watch (if I had any), but many parents have a right to complain that they shouldn't have to worry about telling their 12 year old daughter to turn off CBS at 8pm. Some parents scramble certain channels and assume the big networks will have some sense of taste and responsibilty at 8pm. Just a thought. |
Teresah2000 | Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 10:38 am     I don't think I told anybody to "sit down and shut up". And you are right, anyone can discuss dislikes on the boards. thats what they are here for. But if someone really. really doesn't like to watch something, isn't the normal thing to do, is to stop watching?? <<Or perhaps I could say, "If you don't like complaints about BBIII, don't read them.>> Actually I like reading the complaints, some of them are pretty funny and entertaining. |
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