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Duster4260

Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 12:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
When Chiara was going on and on about Lisa with Roddy in the hammock (much of which was not transcribed) he started to list who was voting for whom. When he listed Jason on his side (which is why they needed Kiki to vote Lisa to avoid a tie -- Roddy's point being that if Kiki voted for Lisa out of loyalty there would be a tie and that leaving the decision in Gerry's hand would be gising him to much power)Chiara said "I'm not sure we can count on J." Roddy looked mmomentarily surprised and then cooly said, "Is that somehting you know for sure?" She said no, but she had a feeling. Roddy was silent for some time then.

However, just a few minutes ago Marc said to Dani that he thinks Jason is having doubts about voting against Eric. Dani said that if he doesn't vote with them, then they will know exactly where he stands and it will be very clear.

Jan

Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 12:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks duster. I remember seeing that . Shortly after that happened, Chiara made it a point to get Jason to sit down and talk to Roddy. In that sitdown, Jason let on that he was thinking of evicting Eric because he thought Kiki would want him to (the girl issue) but now he knows she doesn't want that so he will follow the original plan (he never committed to evict lisa though). He sidestepped making that commitment. It was in that conversation after the sidestepped remark made Roddy believe he was onside with them, that Roddy said he trusted Jason more than anyone in the house.

Keiffer

Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 12:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wait just a sec here!!!! This could be big news on teh voting this week. I only could read the LFP because of being at work, but did Marcy just tell Danny that Jason is considering voting Lisa out now? My goodness, if that happens we will loss our 4th woman in 4 weeks.

Very soon with no women this is going to get very old.

Jan

Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 12:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
keiffer I missed it too but I THINK that Dani and Marci have not been able to talk to Ja alone but have heard via Kiki that he is voting Lisa???

Marci and Dani are no longer sure if they can trust Ja and Dani said to Marci just a little while ago "we'll see with this vote" if we can trust him.

Wcv63

Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 12:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason HAD to equivocate with Roddy and Chiara. How could he not without coming right out against them? If Marc is getting his info from the R/C camp I believe the info is suspect. Jason will vote with Dani as I believe that he is firm in that alliance.

Duster4260

Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 12:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Let's hope Jason stays the course. Did you all just hear Roddy and Eric talking while Roddy changed his shorts (nice butt shot)? Roddy is encouraging Eric to ask Josh who he is voting for. Seems Roddy told told Eric about Josh's conversation with Chiara where Josh stated that he orchestrated the Eric/Lisa nomination.

Jan

Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 12:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Come to think about it, wvc63,isn't it always Marci who says maybe we can't trust that boy and Dani who says we'll see with the vote? Since Marci does not know about the original Ja/ dani alliance maybe she is more sure of him than Marci is.

Meggieprice

Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 12:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiff- I think they were talking about Chia-not Jason. There is a different post of the same conversation that does not say Jason.

To refer to the original confusion for this thread- when Rod told Dani she was too hard on Jason he was talking about the first week she was on PBJ she was too hard on him for having food. It had nothing to do with strategy.

Duster4260

Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 12:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy and Jason are talking about the Josh. Roddy is saying that Josh is making deals with everyone in the house. He is saying that he tells you one thing... his fibbing is stressing everyone out. Chiara walked in... the three compare notes about Josh's deals with people.

Roddy says that he has made deals with everyone to protect his status since he probably wont get HOH. What Roddy is implying is that one person who made a "deal" with Josh is going to have to break it. Of course we all know that no one want to "appear" to have broken a promise.

I think Roddy is laying the foundation for someone else other than him to have to take the fall, since Roddy likes others to do the dirty work for him.

Duster4260

Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 12:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy is telling Jason how Josh went to Marc telling him that Roddy wanted him out of the house just to stir things up even though Roddy never said that.

Question... Do you think Roddy is trying to lay the foundation for one of the three -Dani, Marc, Jason -- to put up Josh instead of a Roddy/Chiara nomination hoping that it will be Chiara/Josh?

Cricket

Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 01:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kieffer, I read the same thing about Jason voting Lisa out a bit ago. There wasn't anyone around when Dani and Marc were discussing it, so it's possible he will. I can't believe he is letting Roddy play him like this. Roddy supposedly told Jason that Lisa wanted Jason out of the house. I've never read that. She detests Gerry and Josh.

I can't tell what's going on with the Jason/Dani situation right now. Is Jason starting to pull away?

This show won't be interesting with all men. I sure hope Chiara wakes up before the vote.

Jan

Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 01:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The only thing is haven't Jason and Dani each given their word to the other..the only people they have given their word too??

Wcv63

Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 01:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh no! I sure do hope that Jason is smart enough not get manipulated by Roddy.

Another thing that has been bothering me is that last night when the guests were talking about what appliances they told BB they wanted (obviously next AC) is that Roddy in conversation with E/L said that he asked for a blender for E. Pretty damn presumptuous to say that E is staying right in front of L wouldn't you say? Also it is yet another indicator of Roddy's arrogance in believing that HE is the one in control of the votes.

Cricket

Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 01:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow, Wcv63, that is absolutely presumptuous, which is another reason they need to keep more women on the show. I wonder how Lisa felt when Roddy said that. The guys really think they rule the roost in that house.

Perhaps they need a little wakeup call.

Duster4260

Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 01:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani just asked Jason if he would be able to put up Roddy and Chiara next week. He said yes and told her how Roddy said he would understand if Jason put him up. Dani says they have to go after it. Marc and Jason both made it clear that they know that Josh has made a no-nomination deal with everyone in the house. Marc wanted to go after Josh but understands that Roddy has to go first. Jason agrees. They realize that Roddy is suspicious of them.

Jan

Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 01:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OK now I am confused.

Yesterday Kiki couldn't look Lisa in the face because she was going to evict her.

Today she is talking her up all over the place and sitting and sunning with her.

Has she changed her vote again.

Wcv63

Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 01:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani's exact words were "It's time to play. I know I said, hold, hold, but it's time."

Veejay

Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 03:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay folks you finally got me out of hiding...as best as I understood the conversation, Roddy was ragging on Dani for teasing Jason about getting to eat food and that Dani was coming down hard on him (Jason). This happened last night That would be Sunday night.. Then Roddy said to Dani that he loved her dearly from the bottom of his heart and wouldn't say anything but was trying to help her out and that actually it would be in his best interest to just let her and Jason hate each other...blah, blah, blah.

Me thinks Roddy was just trying to put a little thorny wedge between Dani and Jason not knowing how close ther really are. Dani's expression was priceless...like what in the heck is this idiot talking about. Hope that helps!

Sorry this post took so long....I forgot one tiny little detail lurking around...I had not registered yet for this site....bad Veejay....bad, bad, bad!!!!

Jan

Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 03:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
welcome to posting at TVCH Veejay and thanks for the info. Are you a fan of Veejay Singh perhaps?

Veejay

Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 03:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
JAN thanks for the welcome....I chose the name Veejay from somewhere out of the blue over a year ago....sorry to say I am clueless about Veejay Singh. Perhaps it is my age, I am so very, very old!!!


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