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Brenda1966

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 02:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What? Lisa spills the beans? I don't get it. I was just starting to like her.... UGH!

Gritss

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 02:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think Dani agreed to the deal. It was left as "we'll see".

Wendo

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 02:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She did not spill the plan to Roddy. He brought up to her what Josh is going to do before to try to stay in the house. She then said that Josh played the Roddy is strong card when he talked to her about using PoV to save Roddy. That is was contradictory. However, she did not spill the possible plan with Dani.

Pesto

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 02:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bmh,

I think Josh gave Danielle a real and last opportunity here to open up the door of throwing out Roddy. If Mars agrees, then why not through his a*s out?

The only thing I would advise is that after Roddy leaves (not before because Josh will say something to screw up the plan), Dan go to Josh and say, I was voting that way all along fool, and I don't want your 10% AND do it in front of Lisa so that its on record and Josh can't use it against her.

Wcv63

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 02:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank goodness. I only got a portion of the conversation and it freaked me out.

Thanks for clarifying Wendo.

Grannygrunt

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 02:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i think lisa was referring to the POV and josh talking to her about saving him. roddy told jason to tell josh if he approached him "I thought you weren't gonna campaign against him?"

Seanflynn

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 03:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So as to avoid confusion guys --
a verbal contract can be either written or oral;
verbal means with words, so a verbal contract can be written up but just as much but not written.
Because of the implications of the word "oral" a lot of people use "verbal" when they mean oral.

In other words, your lease or mortgage agreement written on paper is as much a verbal agreement as is an oral (spoken) one. They both involve words.

And no, I am not Roddy <g>

Goddessatlaw

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 03:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whadya do, get out your Black's, Seanflynn?

Bmh

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 03:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok Marcie approached Roddy and said that Josh approached him and asked him to vote against Roddy..and Marcie told roddy he didn't go into depth with Josh..but there is no way Im keeping Josh

So there is your answer..Marcie wants Josh out!

Gritss

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 03:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sort of like the difference between phone sex and oral sex. But then this contract couldn't be enforceable according to our former prez, since neither form is really a contract.

Bmh

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 03:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ok sorry to get off topic..but Josh is nastier than Gerry is

Josh just told Jason that he wants to go take a shower because he hasn't showered in 4 days..and he was serious too...this was just on the feeds..

Goddessatlaw

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 03:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
But if Gerry is going to join Lisa and Dani, then there's only Marci and Jason voting for Roddy. Who am I forgetting here? Been a long day.

Wendo

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 03:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bmh, well, Danielle hasn't had a chance to talk to him yet, so who knows. Marcellas plays this game emotionally and, because of this, wants Josh out.

Bmh

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 03:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Goddess..Lisa and Dani said they dont trust Gerry..and they both said that if Marcie wants Josh out then they will all vote to evict Josh..so it is really Marcie's decsion now

Woodpecke®

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 03:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have the quad cam on and I am still confused.

Goddessatlaw

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 03:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Got it, Bmh. Thanks. Guess we're going to find out now whether Marci's going to play his emotions or play his mind. Or, maybe both will lead him to the same conclusion, who knows?

Crazydog

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 03:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They have no reason to trust Gerry as he is not in their alliance. There is no reason why he will not screw them over. If he gives them his word then he is dishonorable because he already gave his word to Chiara and Roddy, and the others must have known that he did.

Sonia

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 03:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Including the 3 versions of BB (2000, 2001 and 2002), it's not the first time HGs talk about financial issues, or pretend (true or false) how they would use the money if they win, to try to have some votes. So many times it happen an HG gave a financial issue to try to obtain a vote, or to give it as a reason for their nomination decisions about their co-HGs.

If I remember well, about at the middle of 2000 BB1, Curtis, Cassandra, Jamie, Josh, Georges and Eddie had discuss to take a deal all together to split the grand prize and share the money equally.

Finally, it didn't happen because Eddie refused this offer from other HG, saying there is no challenge on it, (I agree), and it would be unfair for the HGs who were evicted before this discussion and cannot have their part of the grand prize. So, it didn't happen because Eddie didn't want it, but an attempt of dealing to share the grand prize between them were discussed.

Goddess146

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 03:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sonia: Curtis, who is a lawyer and had read the contract very carefully, agreed that the scheme to share would be ok.

Sonia

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 03:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good point Goddess. I don't remember all the exact details of their discussion, but as you say so well, Curtis, as a lawyer, was certainly very aware of the BB contract and rules, and of the legacy of this scheme to share. Thanks to remind it to me.

Patman

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 03:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And this is why BB is so great! All the scheming has finally kicked into high gear!

It'sa thin tightrope that these "under the radar" player are walking, and soon enough everyone will know everyone's business because Josh will be the catalyst for getting everyone to show their cards way too soon.

Gouraphik

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 03:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whether Josh said that he'd share the money (a theory which seems to have been debunked) or whether he merely promised Danielle his vote if/when she gets to the top 2, it was a wise move on his part.

Danielle is the houseguest who has vocalized her desire and her plans (buy a house, pay for her kids' college, etc.) regarding the $500K the most. She really wants that money. Appealing to her desire (or greed, if you want to be blunt about it :)) is a smart tactic.

It may not pan out, since she can't force the other voters to go her way, but that doesn't make it a bad move. Far from it. It may be shady, but that's the nature of the game...immorality is job #1. :)

Kathyb

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 03:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Was Eddie (BB1) greedy? He spoke about his need for the money several times and as I recall, it was one of the reasons some people gave for wanting him to win. Even some of the other hgs spoke of wanting him to win because he needed the money the most.

Janekat0629

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 03:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
A contract is only valid if there is an offer and acceptance. It deosn't sound as if Danielle accepted the offer.

I wonder how well this contract would stand up in court considering the atmosphere in which it was made - a game show in which everyone is lying and cheating....

Wcv63

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 03:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh my. Feed 4. Roddy is confronting Josh about his campaigning.

Wendo

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 03:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Crazydog, yes Gerry gave his word to Chi and Roddy. But we know from his DR entry on Sat. show that he has no problem keeping it.

Wcv63

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 03:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy is such a blowhard. He says he has to arbitrate. There are no secrets. This game is about honesty. Look at what you're doing to Chiara.

Oh my. I want Roddy out BADLY. He is being such a.....I can't even say the word I want to say.

Gouraphik

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't compare BB1 with BB3. The games were not set up the same way, so the strategies are different. With Danielle, I'm referring to her desire for the money. Her desire is stronger than the others. This observation is based primarily on the fact that she talks about it the most.

What I'm saying is that Josh likely noticed these same things in Danielle, and tried to exploit her avarice to serve his own ends. It may not work out in the end, but at least he's trying! I gotta give him credit for that.

Off2cthwizrd

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy is so full of himself...

Woodpecke®

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy is completely trying to justify his nomination by saying the only reason he was put up was because of his alliance to Josh. He also is saying that Chiara regrets putting him up for nomination. He is playing like he is a victim of Josh, but taking no heat for trying to mold Josh early into the game as a supporter of his. This is working out exactly as I expected. Marcellus is nailing Josh to the wall as we speak, and Chiara and Roddy are piping in. The rest are watching intently and all the blowhards are looking ridiculous. The amazing part of this verbal explosion is that it took this long for them to blast this clown. This is great!

Grannygrunt

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
all of this is history now.....there is NO WAY the vote is gonna change. bye bye joshie

Kathyb

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I really don't see a huge difference in the basic set-up of hgs competing for money using various strategies. Eddie and Danielle both expressing their "need" for the money to the other hgs seems exactly the same to me

Gouraphik

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Eddie's situation is irrelevant to BB3. He's not there, and we (the viewers) cannot call and evict any of the HG's.

In any event, I was not commenting on the strategy of expressing a "need" for the money (in order to elicit sympathy). I was commenting on Danielle's desire for the money (based on her talking about it almost incessantly), and how it was wise for Josh to focus on the money aspect when he was lobbying for her vote. That's all. Just a simple observation on Josh's tactics.

However, it may all be moot now since the fight that just occurred. It's gonna be tough for Danielle to get the other voters to evict Roddy now, unless something else happens. Man, is it ever a tough game. :)