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Duster4260

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 06:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Of course fight or no fight -- Josh, Roddy, Jason and Gerry are all outside together getting ready to lift weights. Josh is spotting for Gerry. It is still hours away from the vote and anything can happen since the smallest issue is enough to get your vote. In the house, the smallest thing is big and big stuff is entertainment.

C1mag

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 06:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kitty I have no props for Marcellus. He did this hiding behind the fact that Josh is going. If he had a REAL problem with Josh why didn't he confront him a couple of weeks ago? And then the question would be... Just what did he have a problem with? Josh was too vulgar? Uh I've heard worse from Chiara! The fact that he was gonna vote Marcellus out in the beginning? what about all the others that were going to do it? Marcellus needed another moment of Drama so the focus was on him and everyone had his back. It was pathetic and uncalled for and did nothing but benefit a man ( Roddy) who has already voted against Marcellus and has nominated him!

Dagny

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 06:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
sorry posted in wrong thread..

Car54

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 06:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Marcellus was a stooge for Roddy and Chiara here.

He did exactly the thing that would ensure Roddy's safety.

This had very little to do with Josh. The way this team operates, you need a reason to vote someone out. Our little play was about that. Now everyone feels very good about themselves and their decision.

Ok, Joshie, think hard.... what is next.

It ain't Thursday yet.

Kathyb

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 06:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Off2seethwizard wrote:

<<Roddy just told Marcellus that now that he knows that Marci considered voting him out, he was going to have to rethink how he dealt with Marci from now on. Marci did some serious backpeddling - "oh no..." >>

Could this little exchange possibly frighten Marci into voting off Roddy?

C1mag

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 06:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Car Josh will have to rely on fate and some help from Dani to bring some rational thought back into the game. Her best bet would be to point out how arrogant and self assured Roddy was through the whole argument that Josh was going therefore he fealt it was time to spank the bad little boy. It was truly insulting.

Spree17

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 06:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It really pisses me off when they complain about Joshs lying when everyone in there lies. Chiara is the biggest liar of all and I cant wait for her to go. This people have no clue about strategy. You have to get rid of the strongest choice. Josh is the weakest. He couldnt win against osama bin ladin right now. Marcellas, gerry and jason are fools yo keep him. If eric comes back they will have a gang of four with lisa and it will be hard to get rid of any of them

Off2cthwizrd

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 06:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for clearing me up on the 6-pack, Dagny.

I hope so , Kathy. That's all it would take to make ME get rid of him...but, alas, I am not the drama qu/king that Marcellus is.

Romans8_1

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 06:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
R/C/Josh Oops. I mean R/C/M.

Car54

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 06:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1, I don't think fate will have much to do with Josh. 5 hours ago, Roddy was toast. The tide has turned. At that rate, allowing for SOME sleep, I expect it to turn at least 4 or 5 more times before the live show.

Nothing is settled yet. This is great.

edited to add- I think Danielle's path is through Marcellus. He is very unreliable, and has a huge amount of power over emotions in the house. If we need some one to whip things up, he is our man...she just needs an angle.

C1mag

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 06:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Car now there is an angle. Play on Marc's paranoia and weakness to fit in. Remind him that roddy has never been in his corner and was instrumental in keeping both Josh and Gerry in the game. Bring Marc back to reality. He knows the real Roddy. Sheesh this game would tire me out if they wouldn't do as I had instructed them to beigin with LOL

Car54

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 06:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You got it, babe. Take a nap...gonna be a loooonng day tommorrow.

Keiffer

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 06:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I should have brought some cheese with me to this thread. So many people that were so pro Marcy up until today are just really switching up tonight. What is funny about it that he was exhibiting the exact behavior that made him a favorite to begin with. He showed emotion, a good heartedness, a since of wanting to play the game nice without the evil, and most of all he stood up to a guy that had been running rough shod over all of them. Of course I understand a good many people are wanting Roddy out because they percieve him to be the biggest threat to their favorite Dan.

I will admit that if Eric or Tonya come back into the house that Roddy might have a chance to re-gain some power, but basically right now it is going to be 5 against 1 in the HoH contest, and with that next week will more than likely be his last. Even if he gets a friend this week he will be up against one of them, and then only have one vote.

BTW... JOSH is the one that set himself up for this fight not Roddy. Josh was the one that talked to Roddy and lied to him about not going after him. If he had not told Roddy this than Roddy would have only had Josh's half truths to use, and would not have been affective. Josh just told one too many lies, and called called for it under the spotlight in front of every HG.

Wendo

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You know what the problem is with Marcellas? He's way too emotional and insecure and wants to be part of the "cool crowd". When he was nominated the first week, it played right into that insecurity. So, ever since then, he's been operating under that pretense. He needs to grow up and let it go, because if he doesn't, he'll be out in no time. Especially with what he told Roddy today. His wanting to be "in" with Chi and Rod, going in there and spilling his guts, put himself in the crosshairs of Roddy. I don't know why Marcellas signed up to be a part of BB3 if he wasn't going to play.

I also agree with the majority of you that Marcellas is nothing more than a drama queen. I'm at the point now where I hope he gets nominated next week and evicted. He's a weak link for Dani/Ja/Li and will cause only problems.

Oh, and another thing. He's still playing emotionally because he has said several times today that if he gets HOH he's going to nominate Gerry. He's tired of looking at him, blah, blah, blah, same old complaints. He's so friggin' stupid, Gerry is a definite vote, why get rid of that. Ignor the sh*t you don't like and play the game. If not, press the panic button so we don't have to be subjected to you.

C1mag

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So because Josh went against the orders of the king he should be put in his place? Come on I recall that when Roddy asked for no campaigning that Josh said, "I'll see" he never said he would or wouldn't for sure. As far as your suggestion that Roddy won't have great power after Josh is gone.... Look at the man again! This should have been an easy way to get rid of the strongest player in the house and somehow he's staying. You don't think he can't save his ass over an over and over again using the same spin against anyone he is up against? You don't play variables since they don't exist. You jump all over the chance to seal his fate. Suggesting that Josh shouldn't be allowed to play the game is nothing but complete control of the game and you never want someone to think they have that much power. It was a complete insult to Josh.

If this nom had been Gerry and Josh this week Roddy would have went over board protecting Josh to keep him in his back pocket. That is what is so disgusting about all of this. and more than likely just like he saved Josh against Tonya the king would have gotten what he wanted and Josh would have remained.

Lets also be real honest about Marcellus' rant... It had NOTHING to do with Josh staying in or campaigning. They were personal issues and the drama queen jumped at the chance to create a scene just knowing Josh is going. It was pathetic and Roddy laped it up.

Spree17

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Josh should have never said he wouldnt campaign but big deal. They all are trying to win. Ofcourse he is trying also. I hate when people like roddy and chiahora act like they are above trying to win when they lie as much as anyone else.

Txbb3fan

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'll be the first one to tell you that Marcellas was my favorite up until I think it was either Saturday night or Sunday morning (I'm not gonna swear on nothing because my days have been running together for over a month now. :))

But after the way he went after Josh today he's now ONE of my least favorites...along with Roddy and Chiara.

I'll give it to the Roddy fans that Roddy's playing the game. He totally is and there's nothing wrong with that. Chi is just a stool plain and simple.

Mar just went totally 'ghetto' on Josh tonight (to borrow a term from Dani....LOL) and got too emotional. Mar doesn't want the money. Mar wants the attention (and that's fine as well).

But since Roddy and Josh are up for noms does Roddy really REALLY expect Josh (of all people) to just roll over and pant and beg at Roddy's feet? Josh got depressed and p**sed off and has been acting like a little hermit the last day or so but when called out Josh came back. Roddy, to me, looked like a whiny little crybaby. Roddy was mad because Josh didn't continue to roll over for him.

I've never been a fan of Roddy's (even though he's playing good) and I haven't been a fan of Josh's (even though he was playing good....LOL) but when they started calling people out expecting them to expose their strategy to them two (of which neither were HOH....OK don't get me started on Chi)...GIVE ME A BREAK.

Like I said earlier, this is a game. There are half truths all over the house (being told by every single person there) and I, for one, can't wait for the new houseguest to enter once again.

I'm waiting for the new round of whining to begin....hehehehe

:)

Wendo

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer, Josh wasn't even "allowed" to campaign because Roddy clipped that last Friday with his little speech about not talking about the game. What was Josh supposed to do? Roddy held his "friendship" over him if he did choose campaign. He used emotional blackmail to keep Josh in line. I'm sorry, I have to respectively disagree with you. Roddy has, in effect, nuetralized Josh. He did it Friday, and he did it today.

C1mag

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tx I agree and you know what I hope happens? I hope Eric gets to come back and watch those idiots smack themselves in the head for allowing Roddy to stay in the house. Josh is nothing more than a hyperactive kid, You could have lived with it.

Keiffer

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have asked this before, but I am just not sure what is it that makes Roddy the "strongest player in the game"? Over the last few weeks he has lost Tonya, Eric, and now Josh out of the group of six that they tried to create early on. SOmeone of great strength I think would not have lost half his team in four weeks.

Heck because how he handled the Eric/Lisa eviction he even lost Lisa. If he had not tried, and succeeded in turning Chiara into voting out Eric Lisa would not be as easy for Dan to play as she is.

Seems to me that he has failed at just about everything so far. Add to that the blindnees in not understandin what happened in the last vote pointing to a clea M/D/J alliance.


So, what the heck is this mans strength that has all the Dan fans on here worried if he doesnt leave this week?

C1mag

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thats what I want now!! I believe in a just punishment for stupidity. Let Eric back in the house!! These idiots need to talk with Neleh and PaP.

Bmh

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag..I know you are solid in your opinion..but dont wish Eric comes back!..That is just terible..We need Amy back in here!..She wont have a problem nominating Roddy and Chiara..I mean she hates Chiara and Roddy nominated her it's only fair!..Even though Josh is leaving..I still have hope that D/J/M/L will gain enough control to ride it to the end..even though I am a little pissed at Marcie right now

But you guys gotta admit..Roddy staying does make the show interesting..we get to see how he manipulates people..and we get to witness the ever long power struggle between Roddy and Danielle..it's gonna be entertaining!

Costacat

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy asked Josh not to play the game, and then called him on it when he did. So, Roddy has not ever been my favorite person, and he's even less so now.

Marcellas has been in a steady decline in my own personal "book of love." I am so tired of hearing him gripe and gripe and gripe about Gerry, and do absolutely nothing but badmouth him. Granted, he DID have a talk to him about his cleanliness, but that was only one of the things that bothered him. Not to be too much of a cliche here, but Marcellas needs to suck it up and be a man. And either bring it all out, or shut the flappin' jack trap.

Lisa, who has been quietly hanging in the background, has steadily been moving her way up in my book o' love.

Right now I'm wanting Jason and Lisa in the final two.

The rest of the bunch o' lunatics can go vote each other outta the house.

Bmh

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer I agree 100% with you..if you read some of my earlier posts..I tried to get across what you are saying right now how Roddy isn't in control..but it seems the majority..here think that Roddy is the all-powerful king in the house..but I just dont see that

Costacat

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
For some strange reason, that song with the words "I'm your puppet" keeps running thru my head.