Do you sense a slight bit of panic in Roddy???
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Firebird05

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 04:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm not so sure that Roddy would be gone. Dani tried to get Chia to not put up Roddy and then went to Roddy and did her best to get him to tell Chia NO he doesn't want to be put.

I have no clue to why she is doing this.

Gouraphik

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 04:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The Clique may be making sure to not blow their cover by talking about what they really plan to do when everybody's awake. They like to do their hardcore strategizing at night.

If Roddy & Josh do go up, I'd expect that we won't hear a peep about their true plans until nightfall.

Surini

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 04:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Roddy is evicted, will he be able too to get back in the house (on the twist) or is the next one evicted totally out of the house?

Maris

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 04:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Dani does not want Roddy up against Josh because Josh will know that he is out and will make their lives a living hell for a week. If she puts Josh up against Gerry they can all lie to him and tell him not to worry. She may also be afraid that Josh will go nuts blowing all the alliances and confidences he has made since he has nothing to lose.

Bmh

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 04:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I really wouldn't get ur hopes up guys..it's pretty much a done deal..Josh is gonna go..I dont see anyone turning on Roddy everybody already gave there word..even Dani said you have my word..and Dani's word if given is as good as gold..it will be 5-0...As much as I hate it..Josh is gone..

Chandler

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 04:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Isn't there a chance that Dani is using reverse psychology on Chia and Roddy? By warning them, it makes it sound like she (D) is on their side and doesn't want them to risk the vote. If they believe that Dani is their side, and knowing that she is one of stronger players, they can feel confident that all the other hamsters will follow along as well. The strange thing is, they really don't seem to think that anyone else in the house has any chance of going to the end. They don't consider them equals in the game. I think Dani is playing innocent.

Bernie

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 04:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wcv63, I agree-what is going on with those guys?

Maris, I hope your conjecture is the right one, because I'm flummoxed that Dani is against this - what a turn up for the books, an apple falling off the tree right into their hands!

Cricket

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 04:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This is grrrrreat! Lisa may band with M,D&J and vote Roddy out. If they were smart that's exactly what they'd do. It would give them all the power in the house. Why should anyone honor their word to Chiara, who doesn't honor her word? If Roddy goes, Chiara has no power, nor do Gerry or Josh. The other 4 would be the new dream team. For sure they should get Roddy out just in case Eric gets back in the house.

Don't ya get it? She HAS to get Josh out of there because she says he is the ONLY houseguest who has gone around lying...uh yah...sure. What about your lies and flip flops Chiara? If she gets Josh out, she's hoping they will believe it's his fault she voted for Lisa.

I have to give Chiara credit though. She's not all dumb. She nominated Roddy because he gave Josh his word he wouldn't vote for him. She wanted the vote to be unanimous (remember the worse Josh is thought of, it takes the heat off her.)

There are some smart people playing this game and it's getting GOOD!

Amy

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 04:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The point everyone is missing is that none of them have guaranteed not to use the POV to save Josh.

Jaysgal

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 04:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gosh! Once it is done, it is done. I won't feel a bit sorry for Chiara or Roddy. They say, what goes around comes around. That would mean that Roddy shall be destroyed by the same method/weapon he used to destroy someone else. Revenge is sweet. It's just that, I would loved to see Roddy's group stay strong until Danielle or any other member of her pact is gotten rid of. Danielle in particular, though. I really would have preferred it that way before Roddy is taken care of. LOL! Chiara is just as self-interested, isn't she? Roddy should have given her a little more affection. Obviously, she is contradicting herself, since she didn't seem willing to use the veto power because she feared that Roddy would be put up. What difference does it make now? Is it just because she's getting every person's so-called "word". Then again, they may treat her nicely once Roddy's gone, as they would perceive her as some emotionally abused woman recoverying from it.

Too bad Chiara is not original. She's such a copycat for imitating Rody. I bet Roddy was not expecting that. I am still leaving room for a "I was kidding" from Chiara.

Firebird05

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 04:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Great insights maris and Chandler. At the same time see can plant the seeds against Chia. I wouldn't have put you up but your girl did. Should be interesting to see what happens to the ole couple realationship now.

Earthmother

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 04:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Chandler..I like your way of thinkin' you took the words right out of my mouth (I hope you washed your hands). I was thinking how Roddy reminds of Hardy last year thinking all those people really wanted him to win the game. So full of themselves. I also think he and Chiara will not be boyfriend/girlfriend outside the house because I don't believe they were inside the house. He was using her and now he will get his pay back, not because she gets it, but because she doesn't get it.

Avery

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 04:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Dani, Jason, Marc, and Lisa are going to blow ya'll brilliant plan. Say Goodbye Josh

Battlestar

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 04:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm gettng the feeling that Roddy will be staying. The houseguest's 'integrity' is gonna kick in and they will do as they promise to do.

Even if they think they might vote out Roddy,
Josh is not gonna have a nice week and will be terrible to everyone and those who may have voted for Roddy will switch to Josh

Wcv63

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 04:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Avery I think you may be right on this one. Our strategy here on the board is soooo good and has such foresight and so many wonderful ramifications that it's a perfectly ridiculous notion that the houseguests will actually do it.

I'm with you. I think Josh will go. I don't know WHY ON EARTH they would play this opportunity that way but I fear they will.

Battlestar

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 04:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wcv----cause they are IDIOT HAMSTERS !!!!

Dee723

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 04:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, they'll miss out on the golden opportunity to get Roddy out, but my guess is after Chiara's speech to Josh he'll make life in the house so miserable that they won't be able to wait to run to the diary room and evict him.

Bmh

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 04:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Josh is a goner..Marcellas hates him and he wears his emotions on his sleeve..

Jason already told Kiki 100% I give you my word..he never said that last week when they pressured him to get rid of Lisa thats the difference!

Danielle does not like Chiara's stratedgy with this nomination..but she gave Kiki her word!..she never does that unless she means it

Lisa gave Chiara her word too..

Josh is going..face it you guys..unfortunately Roddy will still be here next week..

Gouraphik

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 04:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If the Clique blows this opportunity, it's their own fault. If they're smart, they won't. Roddy's a hard man to target. If you get him out now, there's a 20% (1/5) chance that he'll waltz back in via the twist. If you get Josh, Roddy's chances of remaining for a week obviously zoom up to 100%.

If I had a chance to knock out the stronger foe, with a mere 20% chance of him coming back to get me (not counting the vote at the end), I'd be foolish not to do it. I'm not saying that they'll knock Roddy out, because nothing is certain. But given the choice, that's what they should do, since it's the soundest move to make. Nuff said.

Ginger

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 04:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm stumped. Why would Jason, Marc and Dani give their word to not vote out Roddy when this is what they've been waiting for all along?

As for the veto, I think it's a moot point, even if they haven't promised not to use it. I doubt any of them would use it for fear of a fellow Clique member being put up in Josh's place.

Jaysgal

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 04:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Avery, you may be right. Danielle's thinking system seems incoherent.

Chiara is screwed either way if she does put up Roddy. If he makes it, he will be ruthless. You don't cross his path when he spared you this while. On the other hand, she might lose him and hardly have anyone to back her, except Jason (kind of like Jesus and Mary Magda.). Josh would detest her, Lisa would begrudge her, Danielle would not trust her but might try to use Chiara to Danielle's advantage, Gerry won't feel any longer intimidated. How she couldn't see this is beyond me.

If she really is willing to take the risk as a matter of principles, risk losing Roddy and intends on leaving with him if he is evicted, why can't she see that it is illogical to take such huge gamble when her backbone might cease to exist? She has so many people she could use as decoy and still be able to evict who she wants. LOL! I'm afraid Chiara is a spitting robot/carbon copy. She must copy her master who insisted on having a unanimous vote. She sees what she is doing as noble because she is learning the ways of her master. Too bad!

Kmjm

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 05:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Danielle doesn't want Roddy up now because she isn't ready to declare open warfare on him. She wants to keep up the impression that she is not in a very tight alliance with anyone so she can play all sides and still keep the 'girl power' thing going. Plus Roddy pulls attention away from her as a strong person in the house.

Goddess146

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 05:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
re: Roddy in a panic.

It could not happen to a nicer guy.

</sarcasm>

Wcv63

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 05:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Km...that could be but why would Dani tell Jason the other night that the time for "holding" was over? She said it's time. Time to play the game.

Wendo

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 05:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gouraphik, from what I understand, next weeks evictee will not be coming back into the house. Only the first four have the "chance" to come back in. If Roddy or Josh goes, they're gone for good.

Missy2

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 05:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay everyone close your eyes and imagine...

Next Thursday...Live eviction...Julie announces, by a unanimious vote Roddy you've been evicted from the the BB House. hehehe... I doubt it will happen but can you imagine Chiara unhinging on live tv? NOW THAT WOULD Make for GREAT TV! Rod would lose it....

Gouraphik

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 05:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It doesn't have to be "open" warfare. If they wanted to get rid of him the soft way, they can get the Veto, remove Josh, have one of their own thrown up, and with a strong power of numbers (3-2 if Lisa & Josh vote to keep Roddy), they can claim that it was more of a vote to keep their friend than to evict Roddy, even though the outcome is the same.

I wouldn't do it myself, since it's fraught with unnecessary risk. But they could do that, or something like that, if they so desired.

Jaysgal

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 05:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
KmJm, that doesn't explain it. I mean, if Roddy left, then Danielle would be able to penetrate the remaining "beautiful people" group. So, why would it be in her best interest not to evict him?

Is she quite afraid that Josh would be able to persuade the other parties if he stays longer?

I am thinking, maybe she is diapproving of Chiara's proposal so that it would seem she had nothing against the couple, just in case they were testing them? And if she is being honest about removing Josh, maybe she wants to be able to negotiate with Roddy spared and she spared for two weeks or something? This is so pathetic and confusing. Sometimes we seem to overestimate those houseguests. As Roddy himself said, you can easily brainwash a bunch of houseguests when confined for months in that building. Maybe it is this concept that makes Roddy confident or at least have some hope.

Gouraphik

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 05:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo: If that's so, then great! But I was working on the assumption that he could come back. In the end, whether he's 100% exiled or only 80% exiled, missing this opportunity would be a grave mistake.

Jaysgal

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 05:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy better be afraid because Josh could miraculously turn enough people against Roddy. All it takes is to expose all of Roddy's dirt--blackmail. Either way, he would have nothing to lose, especially as that would guarantee Roddy's departure at some point.