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Kittykatt

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Josh starting working on Gerry and Jason and Dani last night and gerry seems to be falling for it and Dani seems to be telling Josh it isn't over in so many words... Do you guys think Josh will succeed? I think it's best that Josh leave now he cant be trusted at all and if they keep him in, He will start his distruction again...

Bmh

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Kittykatt..Josh's time is up..Roddy does not have much power anyways..Josh is a big threat..he will start his lying and fake promises all over again...he needs to go..Danielle has to realize if she goes behind Jason and marcellas' back and gettin G/L to get rid of Roddy..she will be in trouble..I think it is in her best interest to still keep a low-profile and get rid of Josh once and for all

Ryn

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I sure hope he can, I woul just LOVVVEEE to see Chiara's jaw drop if Roddy's name was announced.

He's got 24 hours to work his charms....

wait - is "Josh's Charms" and oxymoron??

Kittykatt

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree 100% (BMH) I just fear Dani will try to work on marci try to push him to vote Roddy out, I hope that Lisa and Marci stick to their guns and vote Josh out...We know Jason cant be swayed on this one...He is voting Josh out...

Maris

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I dont think Josh will change anybody's mind but I think it is possible that Dani will convince others that Roddy should go. It won't take too much for Lisa to vote Roddy out.

If Dani can take the approah with Marcellas that he is shooting the messenger and that because Josh told him the truth about week one should not be taken as Josh doing a number on him. If she can get Marcellas to see that Roddy is the bigger threat.

Bmh

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Danielle may try swaying Marcie but I dont believe she will be able..too..the crying episode was the last straw for Marcie

I believe Marcie and Jason are solid on voting to evict Josh

Lisa..I dont see why she would want to keep Josh over Roddy..because she must know that he would put her up in a second..if she is smart she will get rid of Josh

Gerry is everybody's b*tch and will do whatever you tell him to do

It is really up to Danielle..but even if she wants Roddy gone..it isn't gonna look good..if her G and L betrayed and are now targets but M/J stayed loyal..she needs to keep a low-profile and then go in for the kill and nominate Roddy..

Josh cannot survive another vote..it is too risky

Kittykatt

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
BMH, from your typing fingers to gods ears... hehehe :):):)

Countrymeadow

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris I agree. There's nothing Josh can say or do to change the way anyone feels about him. The only thing that will change the way the HG's vote on Wednesday is if Roddy does or says something that so infuriates them that they realize he has to go. It's up to Roddy. If he becomes too confident today or says something he shouldn't he may be the one we see walking out the door. I'm pretty sure that Dani Marcellas and Lisa will all vote the same way. They're riding on the fence right now anyway. Note a live feed log from around 1:30 am. BB time. They want Roddy out but aren't sure if this is the time or not.

Floresmama

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 11:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bmh if you don't think Roddy has much power then you haven't considered what will happen with the returning hg. They could all be persuaded to join Roddy's side of the fence. Not so I think with Josh.

As much as I don't like Josh I think this might possible be their only/easiest chance to get Roddy.

Bmh

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 11:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
But it can also be reversed..Floresmama...the returning hg..could also be persuaded to join Danielle's side especially Amy..I think both alliances have a equal chance to gain a ally

Josh needs to go in my opinion..you cant trust him..at least with Roddy..you know what he is gonna do..and where is coming from..Josh is way out there..he is too much of a wildcard

Jaysgal

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 11:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You know, I think Josh may truly leave because Marcellas does not seem like he will change his mind.

I think here's really what runs on Marcellas' mind: He purposefully dramatised the coversation he had with Josh and pretended to be hurt so he could have an excuse with Danielle for his decision to vote out Josh. Nonetheless, here's his real motive for removing Josh: He perceives his relationship with Josh as a marathon. He asks himself, was Josh behind the move to evict me? The answer is "yes". So, he feels it is a race between the two of them, who goes first. He is afraid that if he doesn't use this chance, he may be in the situation and Josh gets to evict him. He wants Josh to leave before he does. I don't think that Marcellas really despises Josh. He definitely doesn't like Josh's hygiene, but his real motive is that he never leaves the house before Josh does.

All of that drama was to make a reason to present to his group and others for wanting Josh out. At this point, I think Josh is doomed, unless someone can persuade Jason. However, Jason is seemingly initiating into the Roddy group for now.

Muse

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 11:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I disagree. I think that Josh could say something to stay in the house. If he convinces Danielle, she can probably get together enough votes for him to stay. Obviously, she'll see right through him, so it'll ultimately be her choice, despite whatever he does to try to manipulate her. But I think part of the reason why Danielle hasn't pushed too hard for Roddy's eviction is because Josh hasn't shown any interest in staying. So that might change...

Personally I think it's a win/win situation, although I'm leaning towards them getting rid of Josh right now.

Floresmama

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 11:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well I won't be disappointed either way the eviction goes but I think there will be more people regretting their decisions' if they don't use this easy chance to take out Roddy. Josh can easily be taken out next week you might not ever get another chance to take out Roddy.

Loppes

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 11:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Last night after midnight I couldn't sleep, so I turned the live feeds on. I saw Danielle in the bedroom with Lisa, Marcellus was there too.
It seems they totally hate Chiara and Roddy.
They see right through Chiara and are just pretending to be good friends with her. Its all a front. If there is an alliance, it definitely is Danielle, Lisa and Marcellas.
Lon

Kittykatt

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 11:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Floresmama think about it, that's the same thing they where saying about Will, "we can always get him out" and he won I agree with BMH yet again Josh is too much of a wild card...

Annavenis

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 11:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well let's just say Roddy goes (fingers crossed) and Josh wins HOH next week - who does he put up? Bets are it's Chiara. If he nominates Marcellas with her Chiara will go. If anyone else wins HOH next week, Marcellas won't be nominated so if he's worried that he'll go before Josh does I think the alcohol he's cleaning with is destroying his brain cells!

Having said that..if whoever is HOH next week (not Roddy hopefully and not Chiara), who do they nominate? Chiara and someone else... say Gerry or even Josh. If their plan is to get rid of Roddy first then Chiara when does Josh go? He's got at least TWO more weeks in that house. Unless they change their minds about getting rid of Chiara next and go after Josh for real this time. UNLESS he wins HOH... oi my head is spinning. Anyone understand that?

Bmh

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 11:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the D/Ja/M/L hit list...is

First Josh
Then Roddy next
Then Chiara
Then Gerry

And the returning hg would be fitted in that list somewhere..not sure maybe after Roddy and Chiara

Zachsmom

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 11:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope Josh leaves and Roddy stays..I am a Roddy fan..so no time is a good time to get rid of him!!!!

Kittykatt

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 11:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bhm, For my own selfish personal reasons can you please put Gerry futher above your list LOL I can't stand that idiot... ;)

Crazydog

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 11:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree that if Lisa is smart there is no way she would vote to evict Roddy. Josh despises Lisa intensely and would nominate her in a second. On the other hand, Roddy and Chiara seem to still think Lisa is with them, especially if Eric comes back. Ideally she needs both of them out but for now she should do the safe thing and get rid of the one with whom she has an open conflict.

Gerry has given his word to Chiara and Roddy in exchange for not being nominated. He kept his word last time which is why Eric is gone so I don't think he will break it again.

Jason is definitely committed to voting out Josh.

It's too soon for Dani and Marc to do anything, they need to wait and see who is coming back. If Tonya came back then presumably she would ally with Chiara and Roddy/Josh. Then Dani, Marc, Jason and Lisa definitely outnumber them and they can feel free to blow their alliance without worrying about a numbers disadvantage. But if Eric came back Lisa's allegiance could be questioned. Thus they need to do the safe thing and evict Josh.

Marameko

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 11:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Poor Marameko........delusional. Poor gurl wants both of them gone.ASAP

Jeep

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 11:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm with Ryn.....

I would love to see Chiara fall apart when they announce Roddy's been evicted! And she will still have to put up with Josh.......such excitement!

Jaysgal

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 11:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You are mistaken, Bmh. Jason, Marcellas, Lisa and Danielle aren't necessarily on the same boat. They have a common enemy, but once that is over, they split.

Marcellas made clear to Danielle that he wanted the last four to be Jason, Danielle, Gerry and himself. Danielle on the other hand said Jason, herself, Lisa and Marcellas. I am sure Jason's preference is different too. And even Lisa's preference.

I keep saying, Danielle is not Roddy type of leader. Roddy is the type that leads from scratch. Danielle is the type who preaches others' doctrines and gets help from others. Danielle is not even a leader. She has a coalition, where everyone has an equal say. The only person that didn't seem to have a say was Jason. But then, Jason flip-flops between two groups. Danielle is simply not a leader, in my perspective.

Spunky

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 11:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, why not? At least make Roddy sweat a little. Looks like Roddy has been living the good life of the HOH instead of the trials and tribulations the nominated ones have to go through.

It's never too late ..

Blinky

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 11:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Marci, Dani and Lisa were talking about voting Roddy out Mari told Dani he would if she would Lisa said she would love to just to see Chi reaction, but then said she thought Josh was the one who needed to go. They even discussed not having to bring Jason or Gerry in the loop, cause their votes alone could get Roddy out. I think it is still up in the air and can go either way