Will Danielle Really keep Jason for the final 2?
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Rnr60

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 07:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Will Dani keep Jason for the finals- if they make it that far? She so badly wants to win. Will she keep her word to him, or will she find some reason to break her alliance with him? I feel that she'll start campaigning (sp) against him, have someone else do the dirty work. She will think that she has a better chance against Josh or Gerry. Predictions?

Fix2scream

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 07:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Not if she wants to win.

Jasons_First

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 07:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes she will. Why is it so hard to believe she's loyal to ONLY Jason? He's the only one in the house she REALLY likes. She has said if she doesn't get the money, she wants JAson to get it. No one else. Anyone watching last years show knows it's usually futile to drag the house "loser" to the end with you. The "loser" ALWAYS wins (Eddie & Will). If anyone in the house is smart enough to realize that, it's Danielle.

Jan

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 07:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani has made such a point of the fact that she rarely gives her word but when she does "it is gold" that I cannot believe that she will go against Jason. I think she does intend to take him with her.

Maybe she thinks that the others will look at a mother of two with money needs versus a wealthy young man with his future ahead of him and "make the right choice" for her?? (I am not saying that that is my opinion ..just that it could be hers)

I bet if he were up and she got the veto, she would save him.

I think she also feels a bit of loyalty to Marci..but not as much as to Jason.

Rnr60

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 07:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason_First, Jan

I do so hope you are both right. I like both Dani and Jason, would like to see them both make it. But the back-stabbing going on this year makes everything unpredictable.

Jane_Bond

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 07:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that she wants to take him with her and really on a couple of factors to sway the end-vote: gender-sympathy, shock and betrayal at Jason's game playing from day one, needs sympathy. Of course, when the final 4/5 start factoring the end-vote into their nom/voting strategies more prominently, Danni may be secretly hoping that Jason gets cut as such a strong candidate.

Of course, she may wish to let the chips fall as they may at that point, if the two of them are staring at the jury, winning the 500G is great but, equally thrilling is to place 2nd to your closest ally in the game.

Jaysgal

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 07:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am not convinced that she intends on taking Jason. Maybe she had that intention, but not anymore.

Once that America's Choice came out after her pathetic appeals, she must have rethought her decision.

I mean, come on now ... if that was her intent (i.e., that she woud be able to garner sympathy votes when against a single guy or that he would give it up himself), then she better rethink it. Her appeals about being some teen mum, really missing her kids certainly did not favour her and did not convince the voters.

I personally don't trust her words. She would sacrifice the guy at anytime. Or maybe she thinks that Jason is some charity guy, so he'll give her a chunk of his money in the event that he won first place. :roll:

Jasons_First

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 07:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jan,
You said: "I think she also feels a bit of loyalty to Marci..but not as much as to Jason"


I have to disagree with you. She feels no loyaly to Marc. She has stated on numerous occasions that it's all about Dani and Jason. I totally believe her. You can see that she genuinely cares for him and he feels the same about her.


Rnr60,
I think Jason and Dani are genuine! I don't think we'll have to worry about those 2 turning against each other. Although, we need to watch out for the fight Jason suggested to Dani they should start with each other. That will be too funny. We have to remember, it's all going to be staged.

Shakes

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 07:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Danielle and Jason as F2 is a very real possibility.

The key to winning this game(IMO)is to maintain a SECRET alliance that allows you to have the all important 'power of two' without having to worry about the others constantly scheming to break you up. The longer no one else knows about it - the better.

As far as who wins and who takes second...right now I feel like Jason has the edge. Not just because he is cute and sweet as the day is long - but because he really is playing the group for all they are worth.

Danielle, although a REALLY good player, strikes me as too vocal and controlling when negotiating and manipulating the game. She should hang back alittle now and let the others come to her.

In the end I think the jury will agree Jason played the best (and most understated!) game.

Mrdisguise

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 07:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't trust Danielle. She is sneaky

Bmh

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 07:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
ya I kind of agree..I think Dani is just using Marcie..and I think Marcie is using Dani..they are using each-other because it helps them in the game..if it benefits either of them they will dump each-other..Dani's only "real" loyalty is to Jason and Jason's only "real" loyalty is to Danielle..and another thing that benefits Danielle is that she figures both Marcie and Jason would pick her to be in the finals with them because they probably wouldn't want to be with each-other

Maris

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 07:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Danielle's only real loyalty is to danielle. Early in the game she told Marc that she wanted it to be just her and him at the end of the game and she changed that opinion pretty quickly once she realized he could not be controlled. Jason still can be controlled. The minute Jason disagrees with her and wants to do something else, that alliance will be finished as well. Dani is the type of person that does not like to be crossed and expects total compliance.

What555456

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 08:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Perhaps the question also needs to be reversed....

Will Jason keep Dani in the Final 2? He is the one who seems to be the more devious.

I think either would cut the other, if they need to. But I suspect they have also discussed this -- their intent is to get both of them in the Final 2 if they can. But if that is not possible, they understand the need to do what each needs to do to win.

Neither is stupid and both have been very honest with each other. So, I do not see it hard to believe they have discussed this possibility and come to an understanding.

Jasons_First

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 08:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
All you Danielle haters are ridiculous. I don't think she controls Jason. Just between us, does it bother you that he's closely aligned with a black chick? This seems to be the only alliance everyone questions. There has to be a reason for it. Admit it, you HATE the fact he chose her to align with. This one bothers you all more than Roddy abusing Chiapet. SAD.

Everyone in that house is out for THEMSELVES. They are ALL there because they NEED and WANT the money.Danielle is no different. If I were her, I'd take Jason to the end with me too. He's the only one with any integrity. If I went into that house, he's the only one I'd accept losing to in the end. Maybe she feels that way.

Maris

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 08:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That is just ludicrous. What on earth does her race have to do with how she is playing the game. Seems to me that the people critiquing Danis game playing have less of an issue about her race than others who raise the race issue when she is under the microscope.

As far as no other alliance being questioned, there are tons of threads about how Roddy will dump Chiapet so fast it isnt even funny. There are posts about Josh and Roddy. Why should someone take issue because the alliance between Jason and Dani is questioned.

Rnr60

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 08:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jasons_First:

I was with you until you made that comment. Race has NOTHING to do with this thread, or other peoples comments.

Maris

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 08:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
One more question, intersting picking the terminology "Black chick" Would you say "White chick"? Just curious.

Earthmother

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 08:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
She won't keep Jason until the end if she's telling the truth about wantin' the big bucks..

Foodbunny

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 08:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Danielle will keep Jason until the final 3 and then throw HOH in a subtle manner knowing that whoever is up there with her will NOT want to try to stand next to golden boy at the end. Thus she gets to keep her major promise (she's counting on the others seeing the Diary room entries when they get out) and hoping people will respect the way she played and didn't turn on Jason.