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What555456

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 05:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Why would anyone wonder about an atheist reading Th Bible? Simply because somene reads the Bible does not mean they intend to adhere to it or believe it or are even seeking anything spiritual from it. It is worth reading, if only as one of the most widely read pieces of ancient literature in the world.

I am a Christian (Catholic), and I have read the Koran, many Rabbinical writings, several Buddhist sacred writings as well as Hindu sacred texts. I also have studied various earth based religious systems.

Sanfranjoshfan

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 05:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
" once upon a time I was agnostic leaning towards atheism."

Me, too! Then I fell in!

...and found myself in a tolerant, loving, peaceful place.

Twiggyish

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 05:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
But you see Roddy's actions don't reflect his belief system. (Just my observation of him)

Thanks What, I never thought of that!

Sanfranjoshfan

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 05:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
How so, Twiggish? He doesn't believe in god, and I have not seen him doing anything to NOT reflect that (lack of) belief system.

Twiggyish

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 05:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
um, I'm not sure, but I'll get back with you.

Wigglepuppy

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 05:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just curious Twiggy, what sort of actions reflect the belief system of an atheist?

Seamonkey

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 05:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought I saw something way way back about Roddy bringing in the Bible that was in his hotel room. Someone criticized him for "stealing" it, but in actuality, the Gideon Bibles in hotel rooms are literally there for the taking.

One of my favorite lines is from the movie "Sybil" when Dr. Wilbur goes on a trip to research Sybil's early life and she's trying to make some phone calls and when the operator complains about having to look up numbers for her, Dr Wilber (Joanne Woodward in the movie) retorts that she has two Bibles but no phonebook in her room and she doesn't think the person she's seeking will be found in the Bible. (I met the actual Dr. Wilbur several times and have no doubt that she would have said exactly that).

I know Jason and Dani brought Bibles and possibly Amy.

C1mag

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 05:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My true feelings about Roddy and reading the Bible is all for image sake. It bothers him that he hasn't won a popularity poll for Americas choice. He can't stand the possability that the viewers don't like him and he has thought that maybe it has something to do with mentioning his disbelief in God. Therefore he makes a point to read the bible and is very aware that the cam's are on him when he is doing this. He has even pointed out that people probably think he is a God hater and that hopefully by seeing him read, "Gods Word" they won't think so negative of him. I get this guy. He is constantly playing the game but he just doesn't get it at all. In the end it really doesn't matter what image he has. Look at last years winner. Besides, his strategy to win the game is the same as Josh's. Let everyone do his dirty work and make side deals with everyone to avoid being nominated. He's just more charming about it. Letting us see him read the bible doesn't change who he really is. A diabolicle mind f__ker!

Twiggyish

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 05:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
sheesh.. let me think deeply about this.

Oregonfire

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 05:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ARRGGHHH! Could we please not go there again?!

What555456

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 05:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Most atheists I know have very strong value systems. I admire them for it. One need not have a religious belief system to be ethical and moral.

And virtually every one I know is far more ethical than some of those who preach the Gospel on TV and in Churches and live hypocrisy.

Ketchuplover

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 05:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm an agnostic leaning toward believing in the existence of God.

Twiggyish

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 05:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
A good point What! Most Atheists are tolerant of other beliefs, even though they do not follow them. Roddy has an all knowing omnipotent sort of an attitude.

Twiggyish

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 05:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
!

Goddessatlaw

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 05:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ketch - for God's sake don't tell Hillbilly - he'll have you treed and begging for mercy in a heartbeat.

Jesse

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 05:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
G told somebody (I forget who) that R said he was an agnostic, not an athiest . . . an athiest knows for sure there is no God, but an agnostic doesn't know if there is or is not a God . . . big difference.

Kearie

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 05:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Twiggy....you're too funny. Thanks

I think I saw it too.

Sunlit

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 05:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I read everything at hand. It's a bit of OCD. If there were nothing else, I'd be compelled to read the Bible (and the toothpaste tube)

If I were a HG, you guys would have discussion thread titles like "Arnold! Make her put the Bible down, already!"

I believe Roddy is reading because he craves it. I don't think he's worrying about how America feels. They like Jason. Roddy can *get* how likable the kid is. He admires Jason. And, I imagine that he's found some interesting reading and enjoys the escape from the house. I don't want him to win, but I'm not ready to see him go yet. I want him to rally and then later, further into the game, I want to see him beaten.

Eden

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 05:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree, Roddy is reading the Bible cause he's bored and it's the one book allowed. Not that he isn't genuinely interested.. but the motivation is boredom.

Twiggyish

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 06:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've read where scholars now look upon the Bible as a historical record. It may be he is interested in history. Maybe he's looking up more things to dazzle the others, with his intelligence.

C1mag

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 06:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I still think he is reading it for image. He comments too many times how funny it must be to see the dude that says he doesn't believe in God reading the bible. He then add's, "They must hate me" It all suggests image too me. He is too aware of what may be seen out there. He's a control freak and would even take the time to control how he is being seen on the cam's. He didn't even like it last night when they all agreed he wasn't laid back. He was pouting and tried desperately to point out that he was and then added that he wouldn't say that about any of the others knowing that there familys were watching or that someone may mis interpret it. Now tell me he is not wanting to control how he is seen on the cam's?

Twiggyish

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 06:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So C1, do you think he's being disloyal to Atheists by reading said Bible? Will he be shunned by them, upon leaving the house?

Sunlit

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 06:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
How often has Roddy talked of his Bible reading, C1mag? I need more specific references to see your point.

C1mag

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 06:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Twig I'm not sure he ever said he was an atheist. All I know is that he questions the existence of God and he regrets mentioning it because of image sake. Can anyone give us proof that Rod said he was an Atheist?

Yellek

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 06:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Twiggy, I keep trying to figure out if you're joking or if you really believe a person can be "kicked out of atheism". LOL