It must be said...JOSH! OPEN YOUR EYES!
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Wendo

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, just watched Josh talking to Lisa about her PoV. He, basically, begged her to remove Roddy from the block. He stressed it wasn't for him, but he felt awful that Rod was being put through this stress.

Josh is completely and totally in the Roddy Distortion Field. He is completely oblivious and seems so in "love" with this man.

I will say this, I wish there was a way for Josh to see how really Roddy is not that loyal to him. One thing I found interesting on tonights show (finally got to watch after football...snore). When Roddy was in the DR talking about Eric after his eviction. He said that Eric was his closest guy friend in the house. Hmm. I believe that Josh probably feels he's his closest friend. So, how much loyalty is Roddy really showing Josh?

Man, Josh, wake up and open your eyes, you are being PLAAAAAAYED.

(In addition, so is Chiara, though she did make the noms, Roddy does support her. He is so allowing her to do his dirty work. Master manipulator. Playing the game, playing the game.)

Btw, the clique should really boot Roddy. If they don't they're fools.

Sanfranjoshfan

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Josh was not trying to save Roddy....he's trying to get Roddy vetoed because:

1. He knows that Lisa would never veto him (Josh)
2. He thinks that he has a better chance against ANYONE in the house besides Roddy.

Josh is not being generous at all....it's a strategy to be up against a weaker opponent.

Earthmother

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
oooohhhhhh you are good Sanfran. Why do I always agree with you?

Wcv63

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Two great points SanFran. Additionally when Roddy hears of Josh falling on his sword in an effort to save Roddy and not himself maybe he'll get some of that loyalty he is desperate for? Perhaps Roddy will rally the house to save his "buddy".

He knows all the votes are secured with him being up against Roddy. Take Roddy out of the equation and it's a whole new ballgame.

Sanfranjoshfan

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Earthmother - for some reason I feel we must be two classic hippies that have a similar distrust for all things mainstream. It's sort of a mutual love of social politics as an abstract art form.

Either that or it's because I'm usually right! LOL

Sanfranjoshfan

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
WCV63.....yes I can see Josh lobbying against Marce (he's done it before), Gerry (he's done it before), Jason (he's done it before), and Lisa (he's done it before). I don't recall seeing him trying to go after Dani yet....but then again, that doesn't mean that he hasn't. It just means I may have missed it.

He knows that everyone else has been seriously considered for eviction at one time or another before.

The funny thing is, if he actually succeeds in getting Roddy vetoed, then I think that would GUARANTEE a Josh departure. He has no idea how just close Roddy is to that exit interview with Julie. Right now, today, he has a better chance against Roddy than against anyone else!

Earthmother

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hmmmmm thoughts to ponder. I'm settin' up the hooka so I can think this one through a little more carefully.

Sanfranjoshfan

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Do what you will with the hhka....but whatever you do, don't drink the bong water! LOL

Goddessatlaw

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Give me a second, Earthmother, so I can send the police to your house. And you thought you'd win BB4!! You're just another future star fallen article in the Smoking Gun.

Sanfranjoshfan

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 12:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Earthmother....grab yer granny dress, I'll get my sandals and VW bus and we'll split it outta here! Looks like "the Man" (Goddessatlaw) has narked you out to the fuzz! Bummer....

Earthmother

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 12:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
We used to put wine it so you could drink it..but I digress...I have given it much thought Sanfran and have come to the conclusion it must be the former due to the fact that I can never say a man is always right. If my old man ever found out it would be the end of shopping during football. He thinks I spend too much money and I have him convinced that Visa is giving me awards each week and it's not costing him a cent.

Goddessatlaw you bailed on me for BB4. Girl we had a deal, a pact and youuuuuuuuu lied. Send the cops they can take me away, I don't care anymore because I was your friend and I had your back.(sob,sob)Going back to my way of life before I came into that house is your fault. I feel useddddddd...Okay so who should get the award Josh, Marc or Me?

Sanfranjoshfan

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 12:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
:-)

Snee

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 12:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
but i've got your back now, EM...*pats the teensy little knife in back pocket*

Earthmother

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 12:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank you Snee (shhhhh I always liked you the best anyway) It's so nice to have a friend who won't stab you in the back.(hhmmmm what's that little bulge in her back pocket? Must be her copy of bb rules and regulations)

Kittykatt

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 12:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The only reason Josh is doing it is plain and simple reverse psychology. He wants roddy to feel so bad that he will go ask lisa to take josh of the chopping block , plain and simple... But it didnt work lisa wants josh gone... :)

Earthmother

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 05:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whoaaaaa hold up here! Is Chiara really saying Josh is disrespectful and needs to get out because he called her a b**ch? Was that not her on the feeds, and National TV in the DR calling Amy the same thing?

I'm starting to get these people now. What you say behind someone's back is ok, but if you say it to their face you are nothing but disrespectful pond scum. Does that equate to what you don't hear can't hurt you, even if you say it to everyone in the house?

I just never thought that gossip, spreading dirty tales and being dispicable publically was somehow regarded as virtuous compared to a one on one with someone and not bringing others into it.

Bmh

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 05:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No Earthmother..I dont agree with Chiara's thinking but Chiara is more offended that a man called her a b*tch...Girls call each-other b*tches all the time it aint right..but it is way worse for a man to call a woman a b*tch..get what Im saying??

Fuzzybear

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 05:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh josh is whining up a storm. saying this *coming on the show* was a HUGE mistake. Started to say "you guys may think... and we get FOTh. Then came back and he was talking about jumping off a cliff.
talking about Chiara and how she said stuff about him when 15 mins earlier she voted out her best friend! OMG he needs to grow up.
I don't hate anyone but my goodness

Bmh

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 05:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
wait Fuzzybear was he talking to himself..lol??..I am so tired of him pouting and complaining..if he isn't gonna suck it up and at least try and stay in the game then he deserves to be evicted on Thursday

Earthmother

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 06:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree a man should not call a woman that, but he felt the need and called it as he saw it!!

He should mend fences with her. When he jumps off that cliff, he should invite her along for the ride..lol

I won't miss either of them.

Costacat

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 06:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is somebody smoking the BB plant again?

Bmh

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 06:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
lol Earthmother..I just wanted to point that out to you..because ya Chiara shouldn't have called Amy a b*tch but it is way more offensive for Josh to call Chiara one