Intellectually who is smarter at this game, Roddy or Danielle....
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Gritss

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 04:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maryk, I believe the winner will be announced 8 weeks fron y'day.

Kitt

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 04:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Danielle's playing the best game so far, the only thing I don't like about her, Clio, is when she puts on that weird aggressive face and stance, such as before that food challenge. Anyone starts getting the least bit aggressive and it puts me right off instantly. Other than that I've really liked her.

Intellectually Roddy might have a higher IQ, but he's not being as clever in playing the game as Danielle. Gerry has a lot of knowledge, but I don't think he's either as bright as Roddy, or as clever as Danielle and even Marcellus.

Gina8642

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 04:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think being an intellectualy smart is different from just being smart.

Roddy is definately more intellectual than Dani. At least on the show.

Is Roddy smarter than Dani? I'm not so sure here. Especially in people smarts and in manipulation. Dani may be better.

Time will tell here.

Luck of course plays a big part in this game. So, who wins BB3 is not necessarily the best/smartest anything.

Definitions

Intellectual - 1.a. Of or pertaining to the intellect. b. Rational rather than emotional. 2. Appealing to or engaging the intellect. 3.a. Having superior intelligence. b. Giving to exercise of the intellect.

Smart - 1.a. Characterixed by sharp, quick thought; bright. b.Amusingly or imperinently clever; witty: a smart answer. 3. Characterized by sharpness in dealings; shrewd.

Source: The American Heritage Dictionary.

Shrewd seems a more fitting discription of Dani then intellectual. (perhaps she is an intellectual, but she doesn't show it on the show.
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Cliotheleo

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 04:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"that weird aggressive face and stance".... hmm, I hadn't noticed that before. Will have to watch and see what you're talking about.

One of the poorest choices I think Roddy made was getting intimately involved with a female in the house (even if I'd thought Chiarra was an angel I'd still have felt the same way.) On the one hand, that might be considered a very good strategic move, he's assured that she's on his side. But I think he ran the bigger risk of it hurting him. He's tied to her unecessarily if he needs to cut her loose, and I'm sure it's made some of the other houseguests jealous (we all know how "in love" couples can be SO annoying in real life, LOL!) I think it just comes down to the fact that he was thinking ......... uh ......... down there as opposed to up there. :) Not a good move on his part, imo.

Auntie

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 04:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Danielle, Roddy, and Gerry all seem smart to me, but Danielle seems more clear-headed. Roddy & Gerry have so much pseudo-intellectual garbarge, they can't see some things right in front of them. Roddy condescends, Gerry pontificates. Each of them has so much intellectual "clutter" that I'm surprised they've played so well so far. Danielle is the smartest but I wish she laughed at herself once in a while. She's somewhat smirky.

Earthmother

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 07:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The one who has played the best game is the one who is sitting in the chair when the jury says "you win". Strategy and luck is the name of this game..if you coasted then it worked for you.

Jan

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 01:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Judging by today's actions, the one playing the best game may just be JASON.

Roddy told him he trusts him more than anyone else in the game.

Dani trusts him more than anyone else in the game.

Who's playing better than that??

Earthmother

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 02:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lilacs04...if Eric is hiding his intelligence then why didn't he go find it before the HOH competition? You can't hide what you don't have.


Sorry Snee just went up and read farther..boy toolhound you seem to know a lot about us stupid, unintelligent teachers. The only thing I feel that may be misconstrued as not being intelligent is that we put up with crap from kids and their parents while maintaining dignity (as Gerry has with this group of developmentally challenged hgs) and get paid less than the custodian.

Muse

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 02:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason might not be in the best position after this week. It depends on what happens with the vote. I do think he's playing a good game, however.

I think Danielle is a better player than Roddy. She only fully trusts Jason, who is stable, smart, and loyal. Forming another alliance with Marcellas was also a good move. She's good at befriending everyone, and has tried to avoid tipping her hand. Her only mistake was overestimating her control over Chiara...I think she believed that Chiara was more loyal than she really is, and/or more interested in winning the game.

Roddy is reasonably intelligent and VERY manipulative, but he confides in some unstable people (Josh and Chiara especially). He also hasn't stayed under the radar at all. His arrogance is a major problem...he thinks everyone else is easily fooled, and that he can see everyone's motives. Obviously that's not the case.

Penpoint

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 03:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy or Danielle?

I think Roddy underestimates Danielle.
But Danielle does not underestimate Roddy.

Therefore, in this game, Danielle is smarter.

Toolhound

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 03:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Earthmother wrote "toolhound you seem to know a lot about us stupid, unintelligent teachers."

I wrote "I think Gerry is an old hippy that his parents got tired of paying for him to go to college and not be able to figure out what he wanted to be when he grew up."

Where did you get "stupid, unintelligent teachers" from what I wrote??? If you are paying attention to the feeds you know that Gerry has been trying to be an actor most of his life. Played many bit parts and game shows along with quite a few differtent jobs besides teaching. Along with a long list of college credits.

Also listening to him try to remember quotes reminds me of some old hippy friends that have that same problem. Burnt brain cells maybe?

If you got that I was calling all teachers "stupid, unintelligent teachers" from that then I am sorry. Maybe you are taking all this a little to serious.

Penpoint

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 03:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually, Josh may be the smartest one. Although no one trusts him, they all listen to him and react to what he says. He has kept things stirred up, and if they don't get rid of him soon, he could actually last till the end.

Wcv63

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 04:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
In all actuality, Jason could be playing this game smarter than anyone. He has aligned himself with Dani and Marc. He has also aligned himself with Roddy in as much as Roddy trusts him.

He is welcome in pretty much every strategy discussion. He listens, learns, observes and makes decisions based on having ALL the information.

The only one who seems to want Jason out right now is Gerry and that is because of Gerry's misguided notion that he is aligned with Roddy and can't vote him out.

Unfortunately (as I and others predicted) Gerry wants to use Jason's AC win as an excuse to get him out. He should "be with his family." Although Gerry isn't at the bottom of my list and I realize that he is playing the game to survive this is a maddening development.

In conclusion, Jason is a player without being obvious and has the extra advantage of "knowing how BB played." Really knowing. He's a fan. He's one of us.

Goddess146

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 06:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree that Josh is doing the best job with this game. He is turning everyone against everyone with subtile little lies. They all know they can not trust Josh but they somehow do trust him when he tells them something.

Josh has the con man's gift. Last night he was talking about doing telephone sales for a boiler room telemarketing scam. He said he was very good at convincing people to buy the scam.

You are watching a master con man at work.

Earthmother

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 06:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
toolhound; Perhaps my sarcasism which was meant as humor was also misinterpreted. I assure you I do not take this game itself seriously. If I get mad about something you will know it. lol

Hohoho

Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 02:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
WHOA!

I'm not a huge Danielle fan but man oh man, has she got her priorities on right and knows how to play the game!
From the LFP, see how D advises M on who the REAL targets should be?

"[D and M] talking about Roddy how slick he thinks he is with his compliments. They have his number. Mar can't wait until Ge is gone. Is tired of him following and touching him. Dan said hold on, he may be your savior. Do not let your personal feelings get in the way of the game. They are talking about winning awards for hiding their personal feelings in this show.

Dan-bite the bullet and just do it Mar.

Mar- absolutdimon(sp)"

She is VERY sharp and is keeping her allies -- Jason and Marcellas -- in line to go against the real threats to their becoming the final three.

Good going D, you're winning me over!

Rod

Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 03:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
not that it matters but "absolument" is what he said Hohoho (or tried to say.. French for absolutely)

Bmh

Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 03:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
wow Danielle is something else..she doesn't see everything like we do..but she is right on..she knows how slick Roddy is,she knows what a slimeball Josh is..she knows chiara is trying to manipulate but it isn't working..she knows to keep personal feelings out..and just knows how to play the game..her and Jason are my favorites..I just hope they can make the final 2 together

Hohoho

Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 03:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Rod, I was simply copy/pasting from the LFP. But thanx for the clarification.

Yeah, Bmh, isn't she on top of things??? I'm impressed.

Ravenly

Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 03:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy may have SOME intellect, but he is not the brilliant genius some have him out to be. I definately do NOT think he has a single IQ point over Danielle, rather, he likes to spew forth big words that the more simple minded ones oooh and ahh over. Some of the words he uses are wrong in their context, and I remember reading a thread on here where he was telling a story of some sort and had all the facts wrong. He tried to appear genius like to gain a following, to intimidate and to attract the weak. Which IMO is more street smart to try and win 500K. I could throw on a pair of glasses and carry around War & Peace and use big words and try to manipulate with circular logic that really ISN"T logical and some people would think I am a genius just because it doesn't really make sense.

I can't really say WHO is the most intellectual one there without giving them a written test.

Danielle and Jason by far are playing the game the smartest. And even Josh has Roddy beat out. Roddy had a great thing going until he became too secure in where the game was going and his true, arrogant self came out, which was definately NOT a smart game move.

Rod

Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 03:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry hohoho, for some strange reason I thought I was posting in Live Feeds and just wanted to clarify the post as it would help readers understand that Marc was agreeing with her.

If I had remembered that I was actually lurking in the discussion area I would not have done that.

I'm sorry

Hohoho

Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 04:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No prob, Rod :) {{{{}}}}}}


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