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Rain

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There is a lot of sexism in that house (and in society).

If Josh was a female he would have been toast long ago (toast under an island sky, relaxing in the water, but still toast).

Keiffer

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just like that thread we talked about this the other night C1mag, and Wen you have made my point about why they should get Josh out now. I know that I would not want to be up against him on the block. every person there gave there word and he still amlost stayed (and they still haven't voted so who knows). Against every HG they will think that the other is the stronger player than him so take the chance and take out the stronger player. If he got into the final 3-4 he wouldn't get kicked out becuase a HG would decide to try to get him into the final 2 qith them. Just saying I wouldn't want to be going against him.

Wendo

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer said: "Wen, I know you keep saying that he can manipulate situations, and people so well, but if he is that good why in four weeks has he lost three of his six biggest supporters? At this rate he will either be gone, or have no one in two weeks on his side."

Because, Keiffer, Roddy doesn't rely on alliances while playing the game (in the house), he doesn't need too. (And, when he does lose someone that he feels is important to him - Eric - he's very good at adapting.) Listen, I'm not dinging Roddy here, I admire his game playing, it's quite good. But, in terms of the game, when you compare Roddy to Josh, who is your biggest threat? Roddy. So, you should take out Roddy if you're playing strategically.

The only time I've seen Roddy concerned with how people perceive him is with the future jury. He's careful in the DR, he makes sure to be on good standing with whoever is evicted, and plays the good guy. Look how he was with Amy. Here was a woman leaving on a unanimous vote and she was practically gushing over the guy. If that doesn't tell you how strong a player he is, nothing I say will convince you.

C1mag

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 08:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey Keiff you would have to assume Josh would make it to the finals. Thats your mind frame. My mind frame does not accept that if you get Josh through this week that he will go to the finals. If that is your defense of losing Josh then boy would you be a sucker for Roddy to use right now. Lisa is dead set on not having Josh in the finals. Marcellus as well. Jason would never allow it. Dani would never go against the trend as long as she got Roddy out. Wow! so this is why you few want Josh out of the game? You think that he will make it to the finals? Oh brother! Another variable that isn't even close to happening at this point. If your family saw you in that house they would pop you in the head for not booting the stronger player ( Roddy) over Josh because you are in fear of the jerk getting the grand prize. So you allow the better player to play you out of the game. Too funny! Don't think Rod won't say in his finals speech that all you idiots picked me, the stronger player, to stay in the house over the most hated player. What a STUPID gamble! It deserves the half a million!

Wendo

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 08:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bmh: As far as a Dani vs. Roddy, that's a tough one. Right now, they're both playing excellent games. If they were on the block at the same time? Well, as much as I hate to admit it (and barring Dani or Rod aren't spared via PoV), I truly believe that Roddy would survive. His powers of persuasion rival no other in that house. While to us he appears arrogant and condescending, to those in the house he's almost endearing at times. So, I think Dani would get the boot.

Keiffer, Josh is no Will in any sense of the word. If he were, by some stroke of luck, make it to the end, he would not win this game by a long shot. There's too much animosity toward him, far more than Will ever had. Well, actually, if it were Josh vs. Gerry at the end, I could see Josh winning. But only in that scenario. Anyone else, nope, no way.

Keiffer

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 08:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok I am going to give the Roddy is the biggest threat a bone here. Enjoy it I don't concede often:

You are right that IF Roddy makes it to the final two he has been the best at playing himself up to the person that is leaving. For sure unless I was Jason I would be worried about it. He is for sure the only threat Roddy might have in the final two..... Hey why isn't Jason considered the biggest threat?

I would say in responce to that though that I just don't see how Roddy could make it the final two at this point with no support. He just doesnt have enough supporters to get enough HOH's to keep him off the block, and I don't see how he isn't evicted if he gets put up again.

C1mag

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 08:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiff if we were in that house give me a couple more hours, a late night talk, and I'd have you up in the morning begging to vote out Roddy. LOL :) I swear this year this group is playin in out!!! I love it!

Keiffer

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 08:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1... who would you put Josh up to insure he gets voted out? Which other HG would you not consider a stronger player? Working under the assumption that my family would kick my a$$ for not getting the stronger player, then how could I ever vote to evict Josh?

Azriel

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 08:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer, you wouldn't hear a 'you go girl' out of me. I'd be just as disgusted with her as I am with Roddy. I hate Roddy's blackmail tactics and his freaking 'You can look back on my DR tapes' crap.

Josh doesn't hold a candle to Roddy in the lie department. He is the biggest freaking liar in the game. To borrow a phrase from Chiara - Roddy lives his lies.

With the exception of possibly Jason and Eric, Josh has been the most loyal person I've seen in this game. Up until he got that huge knife in his back, he stayed true to his alliance with Roddy.

Josh admitted that he went overboard with the nazi remarks and he apologized to Gerry.

Maybe he really didn't remember that he brought up Marc's name first. He admitted right away that he said they should get the most negative person out and I really don't think it matters that he brought Marc's name up first because everyone in the room JUMPED on it because it was on their mind anyway. Marc was acting like a jerk that first day.

Bmh

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 08:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ohh..wow C1...Keiff got you there!! :)

Wcv63

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 08:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is it permissable for me just to say that I intensely dislike Roddy and hope something terrible befalls him this week?

C1mag

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 08:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer thats too EASY for me... Jason!! He's too well liked! Me fellow players, Dani and Marc along with Lisa and Gerry would put Josh out of the house real fast. None of them could be pursuaded to cave. And since I'd be the strongest player in the house it would be impossible to find anyone stronger!!

Try another variable. I love them. :)

C1mag

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 08:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh and by the way even if Gerry went with Chiara I'd still have Jasons back.

Keiffer

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 08:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You guys know what is so great about this show is that we have total knowledge of everything happening and we can not agree on what the best move is any given week. Our personal fovorites cloud our decisions, and are views on how people should behave work into it as well.

Could you imagine how hard this game would be inside the house if we can't see the right moves from out here?


C!... I wonder if you could change me with a late night convo..... um.... geeee..... probably not.

Keiffer

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 08:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1 that might work in the game, but my point is using the philospohy of voting to evict the stronger player who should get voted out? In yours Jascon/Josh for sure Jason is the stronger player and should be voted out.

Don't change the decision into a popularity contest because then Roddy should win this week for sure. I am saying who isnt a stronger player?

Keiffer

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 08:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL WC a viewpoint that is not easy for me to arugue. How can I persuade a person to like a personality of hg? I would say that is a valid reason for voting him out long before him being a stronger player.

C1mag

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 08:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Boy Keiff yu really aren't paying attention. Jason is a SUCKER and I consider him to be one of the biggest wet blankets in the group. Definitely not a strong player at all. Ask Dani why she is hooked up with him. He's liked and is nothing more than a pawn.

Azriel

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 08:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You have my permission, Wcv :)

Bmh

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 08:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag..he is a strong player in the sense that he is extremely likeable..and I dont think even Roddy could beat Jason in the finals..thats what makes Jason such a strong player

C1mag

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 08:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You'd boot Roddy when I got done with you keiff. Trust me! I'm too good at it. You've never met me. There are always deals to be made. Paranoia to be played upon. You'd see it my way bwahahaha!

Scorpiomoon

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 08:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Post #300!

Azriel

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 08:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
~munches on popcorn and cheers C1mag on~

Watch out C1mag. You could get voted out of this thread for being the strongest poster :)

C1mag

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 08:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bmh thats what makes him the most vulnerable players with a big huge target on his back. That isn't my definition of strong. It's crossing your fingers and hoping there is a Colby in that group. Even Dani isn't going to take Jason to the finals. I know who she wants to go with and it's Lisa.

Foodbunny

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 08:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is it permissable for me to say I intensely dislike Danielle and nothing would please me more to see her up against Gerry with her out the door next week and him following after that?

C1mag

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 08:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
But Azriel you'd never know for sure if I really was hehehehehehe.... I love this game and I love this message board. The best one on the Internet when it comes to BB!!