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Wcv63

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Main Entry: ir·re·gard·less
Pronunciation: "ir-i-'gärd-l&s
Function: adverb
Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless
Date: circa 1912
nonstandard : REGARDLESS
usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that "there is no such word." There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.

Edited to add the url: http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary

Oregonfire

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Irregardless is a form or regardless, but is considered a corruption of the word. It's in the dictionary though, so is technically acceptable usage, but somewhat frowned upon in conversation.

(I had to look this one up years ago. A friend pointed out that she hated it and I had never even noticed the difference. Duh.)

Crossfire

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh God, please, not the irregardless argument, that will just put in a world of heck.

I've had to live though this one many times on another message board, but its too crappy to mention here. :)

Draheid

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 01:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for all the definitions. I, too, believed it did not exist in dictionaries ... guess I should have looked. I had spent the better part of my life using that word, then someone told me it didn't exist so I have struggled to NOT use it for the last several years ... just seemed an appropriate question ... would love to have laughed at Roddy explaining it though!!! LOL

Earthmother

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 01:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
goddessatlaw..just got back and read your post..you are one good legal eagle!!! Now here's another question: If I get involved too heavily into what is being said in this thread and get myself in trouble, will you defend me? Will wait to comment until I hear from you..lol

Oregonfire

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 01:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Everybody has a grammar pet peeve. I keep on noticing the houseguests using "If it was..." or "If I was..." the correct usage is "If it were... or "If I were..." For some reason that always jumps out at me when I watch the show.

Earthmother

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 01:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oregonfire.."Corruption" now there's a word I understand..lol

Curlyq

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 01:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow. Thanks for the tip, Oregonfire. All my life I thought "were" was only used with plural subjects or "you".

Blinky

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 01:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Rodified = subject matter having Roddy's approval

Wcv63

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 01:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Rodruption...come up with your definitions...I got the idea from reading the word "corruption" in one of the posts above. But "eruption" would fit as well.

The corrupt eruptions from Rod.

Mystery

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 01:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You can remember the use of "were" in conditional sentences by thinking of Topol (or Zero Mostel) singing "If I Were a Rich Man...."

(doesn't everyone get grammar tips from musicals?)

The thing that annoys me is when people say "I" instead of me, as in "He picked my brother and I up at the store...."

Mystery

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 01:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I love rodified and rodruption!

Zeyna

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 01:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hehe you guys are cracking me up
Rodification - pontification, Roddy style

Oregonfire

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 01:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Curly, think "If I Were a Rich Man...da da da..." English teacher here, so I can't help myself.

Oops, Mystery beat me to it.

I sniff the possibility of a new thread: take the peculiar behaviors of the HGs and create words for them. Yes, that would be fun!

Snee

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 01:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
imply/infer

Curlyq

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 01:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
For some reason "rodruption" sounds to me like something Scooby-Doo would say. Maybe rodruption can mean the abrupt change of subject when Roddy gets within earshot (like a Roddy interruption).

Beagle

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 01:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Great idea OR, you start that thread right now girl!

Blinky

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 01:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Go for it oreganfire

Mystery

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 01:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ruh roh, Curly!

Yes, Snee, another good one.

Snee

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 01:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hehe, we talked about 'roddying' and having 'roddied' last night!

Wendo

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 02:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I started this thread, so I thought I'd jump back in.

Some have posted about how we don't know Roddy and how do we know that he's controlling, condescending, et. al. That, we don't know how he is outside of the house.

Well, unless he was lying at the time, we do know that this is how he treats his girlfriends. He said so to Chiara awhile back, that he likes to control, be in charge. I listened to the conversation. He even said that he would want his girlfriend to have a pager that only he would have the number for. C'mon, why would one admit to this on tv/camera unless it was true?

Roddy is a chauvenist, he just couches it in psuedo compliments that are nothing more than insults.

Costacat

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 02:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually, Wendo, I think Roddy is a sexist (I'm a feminist from way back, and the true meaning of the word "chauvinist" is someone with an insane allegiance to his/her country).

So now that I've jumped down from my rod-ium (hmm... I'll have to add that to the BB3 words!), I do agree with you, sorta. And I do believe that some of what he says confirms my belief that he's a sexist. I mean, think about it. Why would he want to keep Eric over Chiara (besides reasons that we won't go into here on this thread!)? It sounds like the buddy syndrome to me...

Sanfranjoshfan

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 02:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wcv - "This attitude that the people you are talking to aren't smart enough to either know the "big words" or figure out the meaning by context is not only condescending but arrogant."

Of course, there is always the *possibility* that in the his own personal social circle, he is surrounded by morons, dunces, dolts, and idiots....maybe he just does this out of habit because he is just so used to explaining things to dumb friends.

:-)

(Btw, no offense intended to any morons, dunces, dolts, or idiots that may be out there! LOL)

Zachsmom

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 02:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
But Wendo..him and chiara joke like that all the time..he has even made comments that he has a wife..

I guess I don't see this horrible sexist misogynist emotional abuser that you all do..

Earthmother

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 03:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
none taken Sanfran..