Lisa in the new alliance?
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Crazydog

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Why does everyone think it is such a good move for Lisa to get in with Dani, Marc and Jason? Does she honestly think they won't vote her out before one of the rest of them? Unless she gets HoH, the best she can do with them is fourth place. On the other hand, she has an alliance with Roddy and Chiara, who seem to trust her fully and consider her an ally. I think she's got a much better chance of winning if she sticks with Roddy and Chiara. Especially if Eric or Tonya come back, then they will have the numbers advantage. I know there is a lot of hate for Roddy and Chiara, but I really feel that if Lisa wants to win, until she is certain who is rejoining the house, she should not vote out Roddy this week. It's too soon.

Battlestar

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Remember that Lisa is all about "wanting a good person to win"--she no longer thinks of R&C as good people.

So the Princess of Darkness has hatched.

I haven't been rooting for anyone in particular in BB3--but Lisa is on the top of my list to go to the final 3--with Gerry and Marcel

Bmh

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My final four is Lisa,Danielle,Jason and Marcellas..those are my four favorites..and they have a very good chance

Battlestar

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
--opps I forgot Jason--I want him there too---so I gueww I'm looking at the final 4.

I think Danielle is going to self-destruct soon

Zeyna

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa is in a good position right now. She's aware of the M/D alliance and will soon realize that Jason is definitely part of it. Chiara and Roddy are oblivious to it, and she's been nothing but an ally to them so far. Bringing this piece of info to them would turn the house upside down. Her only enemy is Gerry and she's being nice to him as well. I don't think she'd be silly enough to join M/D/J blindly without suspecting that she'd be the 4th wheel. She needs to sit this out, see which HG comes back and then make her decision.

Penpoint

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa's biggest danger is Danielle. Unfortunately Lisa and the others are all putting their trust in Danielle. They just don't see that the snake will bite them.

Muse

Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree. Lisa's in a good position at the moment. She's sort of playing both sides. I can't imagine anyone nominating her next week. And she could sort of play along while the two sides take each other out. If there's not a strong alliance left at the end (like, say, if there's Roddy, Marcellas, and herself left), she could easily get into the finals.

I can understand her being angry with Chiara and Roddy...she really trusted them. Granted, she shouldn't trust Danielle and Marcellas completely, but she doesn't know that yet. But in the meantime, she can get some payback, and she can ride it out until at *least* near the end (since Danielle and Marcellas want her to be in the final four at this point). Depending on what happens, she could even go further than that.

Wendo

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 04:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think you can always tell when someone joins an alliance (on their own or by being brought in as Dan did) by how much info they give to respective people. IMO, Lisa is with Dan, and by extension, Mar. She is not aware of the Dan/Ja alliance b/c no one is, except Ja and Dan.

When Lisa talks with Rod or Chi, she typically listens, hmm, hmm's a lot, and goes with the flow. She hasn't revealed any of the info about Dan and Mar to Rod or Chi. Not even a hint of it.

However, with Dan and Mar, she HAS revealed pertinent info about Chi and Rod. For instance, her convo with Rod in the HOH. She reported back to Dan how she realized Rod was telling her (not outright) he'd cut Chi when the time was right.

You have to listen to what each HG shares with the other. In the case of Lisa, she has shared with Dan everything, but nothing to Rod and Chi. At this point, she's with Dan and Mar.

However, as with BB, this could all change if she feels her position weaken; say she gets nominated, she can take what she knows about Dan and Mar and share it with Rod and Chi. If they hold veto power, they can knock her out, or, just not vote for her. Lots of variables.

Kathyb

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 05:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't believe Danielle will double-cross any of her allies I don't know how she will handle it if the final 4 are D/M/Jas/L. I think I would just say at that point "OK guys, it's every man for himself now - good luck".

Alaginger

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 05:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa may be figuring that if she can help D/M/J get rid of Roddy, Chiara, Josh, and Gerry in that order, plus the one coming back if it isn't Eric, that gives her a whole 3 or 4 weeks to make a new commitment with somebody in the D/M/J team to help pass up the other two in that team. Or she may be thinking that when it gets down to that point, it will be more one on one and she will have a fighting chance for one of the top two.