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Marymc

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 10:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
depending on where you live, implants go for $4000 - $6000....that's a helluva lotta groceries.

Jaysgal

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 10:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"She has admitted to having implants"

Are you serious, Maris? :O

I am shocked. I mean, I thought that they were all natural.

I don't like Danielle. <> I'm a big fan of Jason, but his association with Danielle makes me distance myself. I would love to see Jay win. But if it means winning with Danielle, forget it.

As stated by Xanax Nyquil, I would much rather see Josh win. I couldn't stand Josh and I still find his habits disgusting. However, it isn't any longer his fault that he's still in the game and may win. I don't mind if he wins it.

Danielle is now playing the George [from BB 1] appeal to parenthood and sympathy. :roll: Pathetic. Maybe she is afraid she's losing grounds and is trying a new strategy. I never thought that she was a good player. Funny that she picked on Gerry's habits, but she didn't tell us that she grinds her teeth. *Shocked!*

Kc103

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 10:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I didn't realize that about Dani. She seemed to really talk down Tonya after she left the house. I don't remember if she spoke about Tonya's implants. I guess the parts I heard were mostly about her character and being a good mother. I mean Tonya's were a "a bit over the top." (No pun intended) Did Dani feel the need for enhancement or was it something medically-related? Dani would strike me as being middle, or a little above middle-class for some reason.

Liddiebug

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 10:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Does anyone else remember at the beginning of BB3 when it showed each HG getting suprised by getting a key to the house? From what I remember, Dani was standing in what looked to be an upper-middle class home...I remember thinking wow, looks like she has money! Anyway, I don't believe her poor mouth story.

Dagny

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 10:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
REad Dani's bio at the official BB3 site "I plan on being as fake as my implants" or something to that nature.

Gouraphik

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 10:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This "poor me" story was a tactical error by Danielle, no doubt. But she's made similar ones in the past.

The one that I remember the best (and got me to notice her flaws) was when, during the reign of HOH Marcellas, she tried to convince Marcellas to let her save Josh with the Veto and put up Gerry in his place.

It was a ridiculously aggressive move, since she was essentially asking Marcellas to save his foe and slay his ally. Not to mention, she was setting herself up for trouble (since Marcellas would have likely nommed Roddy instead, potentially screwing her plans). Luckily for her, she changed her mind and saved Josh the old-fashioned way (voting against Tonya).

Let me be clear: the woman is greedy. Yes, they're all greedy, but she's Enron level greedy in comparison to them. She's very ambitious, which is fine and dandy, but this avarice of hers makes her overplay her hand at times. If she's lucky, this character flaw of hers may not matter much. However, a dumb move is a dumb move, and if she makes enough of 'em, she's a dead duck.

Goddess146

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 10:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree. Dani was attempting a sympathy play. It is going to (or already has) backfired. She now has a hole in foot from the gun in her own hand.

Earthmother

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 10:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well guess what, we all have had to take out loans. Some of us have had to work 2 jobs while our spouse was laid off. and what's the point? She had a job and made decent money (her words). If she can give that up and gamble for 3 months knowing her job may be in jeapardy, on the off chance that she can win this game then why should I care how much she needs money? Do you know how many people are looking for work in California? I live in the SF bay area and she lives in Farifield about 2 hours from here. Upper Middle class houses in Fairfield sell for $100,00 lower than middle class houses in my neck of the woods, but we worked and saved and worked some more. Work, that's what people do when they want something.
If she wants a house so bad that she can afford then she may need to move out of California, cuz it's expensive here. It would be a perfect time since she may not have a job to go back to (her words).

Goddess146

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 10:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She also had made it very clear that she does not have the ambition to attempt any leveraging from her BB3 exposure. She wants a gift. Too bad.

Earthmother

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 10:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She may be clean but she sounds lazy to me.
She has the nerve to sit in that house and make fun of a working man with 2 master's degrees. Well it's starting to make a lot more sense to me now why she doesn't like Gerry. It's not his fault if she has no ambition.

Dagny

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 11:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Earthmother...I love you!!! I think your dead on!!! I read today that Lisa has never "smelled" Gerry.....but HAS "smelled" Josh.....

Seamonkey

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 11:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well I don't think they own a home and it looked like a nice townhome type of apartment to me. Fairfield's a nice area (too hot for my taste).. my brother lives there, in fact.

Dani's been dropping the info about how she has to go back to work, won't be going to Vegas, for some time now. This latest effort seems to be pushing way too far.

Yeah the implant wars.. she criticized Tonya's and Tonya criticized Dani's (Tonya had replaced her saline ones with silicone, and Dani's are saline.. Tonya said hers looked more natural

<snort>

Dagny

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 11:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani's bio says she is a "Media buyer"....what is that??? I have no idea what kind of job it could be.

Earthmother

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 11:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh and her kids go to private school, well now I completely understand..We have busted our butts for years and couldn't afford private school for our kids and they did just fine. Probably because kids in Public School are nasty and don't wash their hands.lol I didn't get implants (and if anyone needed them it was me) that cost a bundle, instead we bought a house. You make your choices in this world. I'm glad her little ploy was noticed by the others. They are saying it made them uncomfortable.

Dagny

Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 11:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think they just "busted" Dani in the hot tub...
Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 11:05 pm
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R-talking about the day he got his key. Said he was basically clueless about the show and didn't realize he was actually going to BB3. Had to stop at the bank, laundry, etc..before he left.

Dee723
Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 11:08 pm
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~~~~~~Dani-called her best friend to tell her that Elvis left the building. That was her code for if she made the show. ~~~~ (no time to get a loan) ~~~~~~~~~~

R-had to call and tell some movie guy that he might have to put the movie off for 100 days. These people were BB finatics. When he told them he was one of the 20 finalists, the guys knew if they got the call on Sat he was in. HE called them on Monday, got railed on because they thought he didn't make the show. R-told this Chris guy he couldn't talk, R-told them he made the show and a whole room of guys were yelling.

Snee

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i don't think there's anything wrong with dani playing the 'need' card...but, i think she overplayed it.

earthmother and goddess, i don't understand where you get idea she lacks ambition. i thought she worked her way upward in her company quite a bit. (<--from earlier on in the summer.) i might be wrong on that, but i don't get any sense of a lack of ambition. what's the deal?

Wendo

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
HUGE TACTICAL ERROR **** HUGE TACTICAL ERROR

Ooooh, just when she was playing so well. Dani, Dani, Dani, way to early in the game to be laying out the "poor me" card. Tsk, tsk. I'm really surprised that Danielle overplayed so much with her talking. She obviously didn't keep herself in check. I watched the conversation, and it didn't seem to me that she meant to go overboard like she did. She was in a convo with Mar and Li and they continued the convo with questions. I think she just let her mouth run.

This could be where she loses the game.

Squaredsc

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 06:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
it doesn't sound to me from what you all have said that she made a "huge" tactical error. just trying to go a different route. and remember in survivor africa, the dentist guy, can't remember his name. well the younger crew were voting him off 'cause he didn't "need" the money. so maybe she doesn't want to seem like she doesn't need the money and give others an excuse to vote her off because of it. jmo.

Chiparock

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 06:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Krossd had an interesting point many posts ago: "Well, maybe if she had a HANDICAP they might give it to her. She STANDS a good chance workin' it - hope she puts her FOOT down on doing this any more." Who else could Krossd be referring to but "America's Choice" Eddie?!

Eddie from BB1, who lost a leg to cancer, seemed to be foul-mouthed, nasty, lazy, and smelly (flatulence problem), according to comments by his fellow houseguests and by the live feed posters. Yet he won. Hmm, I wonder why! Could it be the fact that he wanted the money to get his family out of a bad neighborhood? (I don't think he did that yet!)

Also, Josh (also from BB1) got 2nd place perhaps in part because he wanted the money for his niece and her college education. (She was about 8!)

Maybe Dani thinks she can adapt this tactic to propel herself into the big bucks. If it works, good for her. I hope no one buys it, though.

C1mag

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 06:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
OUCH! I'm just gonna say that I don't think she over did it. Jason has already admitted he comes from a VERY VERY VERY wealthy family. Yet all I read on this board is how sweet he is. Does he NEED the money? Obviously not! However, his fan base is based largely on how sweet he is. So his angle would be.. "I'm the moral sweet one so please give me the money" To be honest, I hate that angle more than the poor me approach. Yet, everyone has an angle they can use. Perhaps the others need an excuse to consider when they vote Dani out and that is why they are attacking her story.

Mrdisguise

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 07:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Everybody "needs" the money.

Why would Jason admit to coming from a wealthy family- how foolish of him!!!!!!!

Dani probably does need the money. Private school for 2 kids, a nice home, breast implants, presents from Tiffany, 2 college funds, etc are not cheap!

I didn't like Danielle ever since she made fun of Halle Berry accepting her Oscar and the way she tried to influence Marcellas' nominations when he won HOH. She wanted to save Josh- for gawd's sake. She is a typical bytch- in my opinion- and the viewers seem to agree since she didn't win the letter from home.

Carigsby

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 07:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dagny - a media buyer usually works for an advertising firm (sometimes they are in the marketing department of a company). They are responsible for taking a company's advertising budget and "buying media" across the country, state, region or town.

It is usually just for TV or radio. It is a job that requires incredible negotiation skills so that you can get the best possible spots for the least amount of money. 1 million dollars goes very fast spread over a year of TV. It doesn't surprise me at all that this is her job - she's just like a lot of media buyers I work with - hard core!

Bcarter3

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 08:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I really likes Josh (from BB1) except for one thing. He repeated justified his preference for Eddie over Curtis by claiming that Curtis would earn some grossly inflated salary as a government lawyer. Curtis' actual salary was considerably less than the figure Josh cited--less than half, as I remember it. But the exageration, which he made in the diary room, stood unchallenged.

I'm sure the distortion lowered Curtis's vote totals. (Although I suspect that Eddie's missing leg locked up the win fairly early in the game.)

Earthmother

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 08:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't agree Bcarter3..by the end of that show Eddie was winning strictly on his honesty and humor.

Penpoint

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 08:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Just want to point out that the fate of the BB1 HGs was in the hands of the general public. The public voted on the winner and, therefore, Eddie's situation worked to his advantage. There was also much discussion in the house about who was most deserving of the money--and those discussions always focused on who "needed" the money the most.

Since the public no longer votes, the HGs must appeal to their fellow HGs. Danielle--until her rant to Lisa and Marcellas--has been pretty subtle in using the "I need the money" ploy. We see that this approach didn't work with Marcellas, Lisa, and Eric. The question now is, does Danielle see that this ploy isn't registering well with her fellow players?

Jasons_First

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 08:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If you recall, Mrdigust,
ALOT of houseguests didn't win the letter. Only Jason won the letter. It does not mean America HATES her. She's a typical "bytch" (your spelling, not mine), huh? Roddy is a typical male/b*a*s*t*a*r*d as well. Halle Berry was funny during her oscar speech. That's a pretty lame excuse to "hate" someone. Her breast implants are 10 years old and she wants the best for her kids. Yeah sure, she's such a "bytch". You hate strong women. I guess you prefer your women more like Marcellas, huh?


As for Eddie (from BB1)... that was a sympathy vote, pure and simple. America rewarded Eddie for the same crap they now condemn Dani for.

Woodpecke®

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 08:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Make no mistake. Eddie won BB 1 because he successfully convinced players that he needed the money. I hope we don't have a repeat of this strategy going on with Danielle.

Tripwaste

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 09:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
* Yeah, Eddie needed and deserved the money because he was a hopper who wanted to move his family from their polluted property, and also get his German model girlfriend some lederhosen too!

* Josh needed and deserved the money because he was a young, virile, cute college student with a cute niece whom he also wanted to someday be a young, virile, cute college student like himself.

* Curtis didn't need or deserve the money because he was gonna be a law-yer, makin' big bucks with the guv'ment. Hell, he's probably doin' pro bono (no, not Bono!) work by now. Plus he got to go to the Emmys.

* Jamie didn't need or deserve the money because she would make it all back with her lucrative entertainment career, after hooking up with producer Anthony Sepultura and all. Plus she was a girl, a pretty, pretty one; they can slways find a man to support them.

* Cassandra didn't need or deserve the money because she was just gonna give it to charity to help foster and develop the futures of children and peoples the world over! What kind of need is that?!?

* George didn't need or deserve the money because, by golly, his down-home aw-shucksterisms, murderously entertaining physical pratfall comedy, and spot-on ethnic impressions endeared him to the nation!
His town would support him! Colleges would freely edjumacate his lovely, twitching daughters!

Big Brother even tried to give George briefcases of hard cold all-American ca$h, but he refused _ not once but twice!!!
(sigh) "Close it, Eddie, I ain't takin' it ..."

* Brittany didn't need or deserve the money because she was still a virgin. Plus, you don't need money at Burning Man, man!

* Karen didn't need or deserve the money because she had a loving, poetic husband waiting at home.

* Jordan didn't need or deserve the money because, well, she was never stripped down for the cameras like she threatened to.

* Mega Will didn't need or deserve any of the White Man's money, dammit! That money's racist, uncle fool! Mega was there to spread a message, make a statement, and lose team quiz competitions on purpose!

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Um, question here ...

Can anyone say if Danielle initially whipped out the need $ topic herself, or if a comment by someone prompted it??
How did the houseguests arrive upon a discussion of personal need/deserve economics in the first place??

Regardless, just seems like too much, too soon.

Dani was batting a respectable strategic percentage prior to that.

Woodpecke®

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 09:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Josh didn't need the money, he told Eddie he needed it more than he did.

Tripwaste

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 10:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
good tea flavor _ Zinger!

Ryanc2002

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 10:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
IMO, needing the money is a non-issue.

Moedog

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 10:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LMAO, Tripwaste! Great synopsis on the monetary needs of former HGs! You made my day with that post. VERY funny.

I think Dani made a huge mistake. If she makes it to the end, Eric, Lisa, & Marc are not going to forget that conversation.

Okkie

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 10:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dagny, A media buyer does just that..she buys TV, radio, print advertising for her company or for an advertising agency. It's a very good job. The poor me thing is a crock.

Boberry

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 10:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm with you Ryan, need has nothing to do with playing the game and I would hope that some perceived "need" is not what the hgs are basing their votes on!