A woman (Amy?) more likely to be back than Eric
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Spunky

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 06:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I mean, we fretted so much at how the women were outnumbered that it would be ridiculous to bring back Eric now.

I'm sure Amy is the favorite (here at least?) to be back, but I'm not sure about how the hgs will like that. Well, Josh will be gone and he was the one who really didn't want to see her.

Chiara would love to see Tonya, but it would be Marcellas' nightmare.

Lori would be bad for Danielle, she was actually the only one who managed to tick Danielle... and Lori will also remember how Roddy voted...eh, eh...(he said to be her friend at first, huh!)

Hotty_Toddy

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 06:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually, Josh said the only one he would be interested in seeing again is Amy. But you are right about one thing: it's a 75% chance that a woman is going back in.

Crazydog

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 08:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, especially since it is a competition among the four evictees to go back in, and not a vote among the remaining houseguests. Eric has just as equal a chance of going back in as the others.

It's only here that I've seen so much anger and frustration over the fact that the first three evictees were women. I haven't seen feelings of similar magnitude at TWOP.

Each of the returnees has a strong ally and someone they hate with a passion. Eric-Roddy-Gerry. Amy-Marcellas-Chiara. Tonya-Chiara-Marcellas. Lori-Gerry-Danielle. Lori is more of a wild card since she was gone so early, but I think that no matter who comes back, there will be sparks.

Jagger

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 08:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I really don't want to see any of them coming back, I guess if I had my pick it would be Lori, just because she was an early riser and gave us something to watch in the mornings.

Rissa

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 08:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It has to be a competition that does not depend at all on what has happened in the house, since the longer the HG was in the house.. the bigger advantage they would have. It also cannot (should not?) be a strictly physical competition since that would give Eric a big advantage. I am making a huge HUGE assumption that BB would try to make it as fair as possible to all four of the evictees. No matter how fair, I just can't see Tonya winning. LOL She has not proven herself to excel at anything physical or mental thus far, and anything physical she does has to be completed one handed. :) Lori wasn't in the house long enough for me to have an opinion. Amy might not be the greatest in the brain and brawn dept. either but she seems to go 110% for all competitions. Eric was just evicted, so I am sure he had the interviews, travel time (if they sent him somewhere for a few days), etc.. Just when he is starting to unwind, they drag him back.

I think Amy has the best shot at being the most resolved, and in the best frame of mind to win. I am biased though, because she is my pick to return. LOL Tonya and Eric would benefit Chiara and Roddy which I don't want and Lori is a wild card as far as her alliances.

GO AMY!

Cameltoes

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 08:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I figure it will have to be similar to the last HOH and POV competitions. No questions about things that went on in the house but a skill competition that will be both mental and physical. I also don't think Tonya has much of a chance whatever it is. I would bet it will come down to Amy and Eric.

Chrispco

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 08:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It's like russian roulette. When you pull that trigger and suddenly you're smacked in the head by unnatural and leaky boobies...life is just awful!

For advantages in contests: Amy and Lori have the brains. Eric has the brawn. Tonya has the implants.

Nostalgic people want Lori to run in and mess around.

Chiara and two teenagers in Nevada that have yet to be turned off want Tonya back.

A vast majority of the net fans (and maybe even a majority of the house now) want to see Amy back.

Roddy wants Eric back. Lisa growing a personality is bad news!

American viewing public (non-internet) are so manipulated they don't know what to think anymore.

Sure the twist has destroyed BB3's integrity...but how far did it really have to fall? Amy back in the house will be a good thing. Someone need to cool of Marc. BUT, what do the producers want? Big Brother by nature should mess with the HGs...rigging a readmission contest is certainly within their means. But who do they choose?

Spunky

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ooops, I didn't know there was going to be a competition to be back. I agree it shouldn't be a physical one but mental or by luck. Draw of the dices?? (To make it a quick one since they may need air time). So, then Eric could also be the one.
But I wonder how much each one of them want to be back knowing for sure that they'll have a short life there. So, those who don't feel like coming back may throw the comp, but if it's a draw of the dices they couldn't do that.

Crazydog

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think the producers particularly care about making it as fair as possible, they only care about bringing someone, anyone, back to see the havoc it would wreak when that person confronts those responsible for that person's eviction.

I also believe that it was decided long before the show began that after four evictions there will be a competition to bring one back. In other words, they planned whatever it was in advance and therefore hadn't considered that it would be one strong athletic man against three weaker women.

I don't see anything wrong with it being about people or things in the house - what other frame of reference would they have? I think the best competition would involve some kind of quiz about the remaining houseguests. It doesn't necessarily benefit those that remained in the house longer. Unless it was about Lisa or Roddy, I don't think Eric has an advantage. Tonya has no capacity to answer questions unless they are about Gucci, Prada or Cartier. Amy doesn't seem particularly observant about others. Lori was gone too early. They are all equally screwed.

I also firmly believe the returning HG will be made the new HoH. I'd love to see the returnee wield immediate retribution. As far as whether or not that is fair, again, it's a game, it's not designed to be fair, it's designed to be entertaining.

Auntiedotcom

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
saturday night, actually about 4 am BB time, the camera was zooming in and out of amy's eviction picture for a good 20 minutes.

Kador

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
While I agree that Tonya doesn't have much of a shot in a FAIR competition, I have a feeling that BB is going to bend over backwards to make sure that whatever competition they have, is biased strongly towards Tonya winning.

They want Tonya back in the house for the cleavage ratings, and nothing else.

Niceguy

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, Lori is the only one to see Danielle for what she is and can melt her Teflon/Kevlar right off. C'mon Lori.

Demeter

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If the producers have a fav they want back in, I would think it would be anyone BUT Tonya.

Most likely picks would be Amy (she's fun, attractive, stirs up the hgs and is a great Marci sidekick) or Eric (how romantic to have the loved one come back into the house...yuck).

Maryk

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I still don't like the idea of someone coming back. I think the competition will not be about skill, mental or physical prowess at all. I think it will be a game of total luck where everyone has 1/4 shot of getting in.

Espen

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 11:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually, my fear is that,even though we fans hate the idea, BB could decide that for ratings purposes, it would be best to indeed have Tonya back in there.. (shudder).. Kent implied this over on realitynewsonline.com too, and although he is not an insider per se, he has been exposed to the sordid underbelly of reality show politics.. Anyways, I hope this is not the case, as Tonya is the one person I do not want back either, and agree she is the one least likely to win a contest (unless it is obviously biased in her favor).. Oh well, I guess we will know in a few days....

Crazydog

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 11:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Tonya will win the competition if it is set up like The Price is Right. There are ten pairs of designer shoes and they have to rank them in order of most to least expensive. The only one I really don't want to see back is Lori. That accent and that inability to control the volume of her voice grates on me. I'd love to see Eric come back just to see how Lisa reacts - she has said that for selfish reasons she wants him back but for strategy reasons it's better if he does not come back. I like Eric, and I like Eric and Lisa, so I want him to come back most of all.

Bmh

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 11:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ya I agree..Tonya does not have the brains to answer any kind of BB trivia..
Eric is a tough call because in one HOH challenge in came in dead last but in the next he came in second..
We never really got to see how good Lori was at answering questions by herself
I think Amy is pretty observant about in-animite things..but shuts out certain people she doesn't like..Overall I think it is going to be a Amy vs. Eric challenge..Tonya added nothing to the show..and Lori really did not have much of an impact either

Bmh

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 12:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I dont think Lori has much of a grudge against Danielle..Niceguy..she wrote in her parting words that she wanted either Gerry or Danielle to win..she said she liked them both..so I think that fight was a one time thing..and Lori does like Danielle or otherwise she wouldn't have said such nice things about her

Niceguy

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 01:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'll guess we'll just have to wait until Thursday.

Willsfan

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 02:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If it's Amy they need to hide the liquor.


Maybe BB wants Eric to win this year's BB or at least be in the final two. Someone on this board said because Eric is a firefighter it would be good PR for the show in Sept. (cause of the 9/11 tragedy) and if they bring Eric back I will be thinking about this angle too. I read this board too much. LOL

I liked Lori and didn't think she had a chance to make an impact on the game, but I don't really like the idea of HGs coming back. I might enjoy it after the fact but right now I don't know. It might be hilarious.

Shrike3000

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I cannot belive the whole "having a hg return ruins bb's credibility (sp)" argument. I think the whole idea of a multiple season reality show is you have to keep shaking it up, or the contestants think they know it all and it gets complacent and boring. The job off BB is to entertain, what does credibility have to do with anything. I love that BB is doing the bring back an evictee thing, and I hope Survivor does it next year.

I was hoping all last season of Survivor that Hunter would get a chance to get back in the game.

I also cannot understand why "most" internet viewers want to see Amy back, she has her good points, but she is sooo stuck up it really gets on my nerves. If her and Marcellus ever walked by any of us on the street, they would snicker and laugh and call you a freak.

I am rooting for Jason, so in turn I am also rooting for Dani and whatever alliances she puts together to help her and Jason. For that reason I probably don't want Eric to come back in, but as far as good, decent people go, I would choose Eric to come back in, as an alternate I would say Lori.

Amy and Tonya need to just go home, and fast.

Tvjunkie

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You are so right Crazydog! I never thought that all the out and your typing it out for me helped. Crazydog types: "Each of the returnees has a strong ally and someone they hate with a passion. Eric-Roddy-Gerry. Amy-Marcellas-Chiara. Tonya-Chiara-Marcellas. Lori-Gerry-Danielle." Thanks!
I wonder what Jason thinks about all of this since he is neither on the love 'em or hate 'em list?
I am ready! Let the fireworks begin!

Tvjunkie

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 11:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey Shrike3000! I still have your back! I totally agree. Let's shake this snow globe up and wait and see where the HGs all land... inside or outside the house!! lol
I guess I see why we agree. I too am pulling for Jason, and I also like Dani... so I'm for their "side" so to say.
Amy did grate my nerves, as did Tonya. Eric just left and him coming back would not only be boring, but also go against the alliance that I am for.
Lori would be my pick to come back into the house. I still feel that she was kicked out before everyone really got to know her. AND, like I said before, everyone has gotten a little crazy and shown their a$$, she just happened to be the first.
P.S. I wanted Hunter back too! He was awesome!

Crazydog

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think all of them have their qualities, but the nicest, most even-keeled person is Eric. If you want to see a nice guy, root for Eric. If you want to see someone who knows how to have fun, root for Tonya. If you want to see psycho fireworks, root for Lori. If you want to see someone you love one minute but absolutely cannot stand the next, root for Amy.

No matter who comes back, I hope they are welcomed back and get back into playing the game. It will be fun to watch. The revolving door operation would defeat the whole purpose. However, the imminent return has already had some effect as it has made the HGs think more than one move in advance.

Dahli

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 11:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I figure AS(S) is going to go for the cleavage 'angle' too... yawn

Realfan

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 01:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
<<BUT, what do the producers want? Big Brother by nature should mess with the HGs...rigging a readmission contest is certainly within their means. But who do they choose?>>

Amy. The producers loved Amy for the same reasons a lot of us fell in love with her. I read an article quoting the producers saying they loved her sparkle and personality, and knew she'd be a big fan favorite. I have a feeling they were groaning when she was booted so early in the game.

<<They want Tonya back in the house for the cleavage ratings, and nothing else.>>

Except here and everywhere else on the net, people can't stand her. I highly doubt the producers really want her back over the others. I don't think BB3 watchers are watching for cleavage. For one thing, most of us are women. There are plenty of cleavage shows for those who want that (e.g. The Man Show or Son of a Beach.)

<<Tonya has no capacity to answer questions unless they are about Gucci, Prada or Cartier.>>

Those brands are much more Amy and Marc's style. Tonya shops at Fredrick's of Hollywood.

<<Amy doesn't seem particularly observant about others.>>

Yet she came in second when Roddy won HOH. I think she's plenty smart.

Pulk

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 01:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If a woman does go back in that means my prediction the other week of the house being 4-4 instead of 6-2 in favour of the guys will have come true. Though it isn't too hard to predict events and happenings in the future when you watch the feeds and read this board.

Bmh

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 01:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tonya shops at <>R Us

Amy and Marcellas are the ones that shop at Gucci,Prada, and what not lol

And if a woman does come back(hopefully Amy)it is kind of funny thinking that the men and women will be all tied up at 4-4..when the odds for women were so bad before being 6-3..Im glad the women might now have a fighting chance in the game
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Crazydog

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 01:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Realfan, I think the statement that most BB3 viewers are women is a generalization and likely not accurate. It all goes to how you define "most". Amy did not come in second when Roddy won HoH - I thought it was the guess the weight question. The answer was 1600 something pounds. Roddy put 15 something. Danielle was second, she had 11 or 12 hundred. Amy wrote down something in the 8 or 9 hundred range.

On the feeds Tonya has gone on and on and on about Gucci and Cartier. In particular, she loves to talk about her $800 Gucci shoes that she left at her ex-husband's place and he says they aren't there. The houseguests have commented many times about how much she drops the names of fancy brands and how much everything of hers costs. I think somebody was wondering about her children's names and Eric snarked "Gucci and Cartier".

If a woman returns, it will indeed be 4-4 but if Eric returns it remains 5-3.

Sheilaree

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 01:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I want Amy back because the others are idots except for Lori which I wouldn;t mind coming back;How come people can't send banners to the HG?>