Is Chiara Roddy's PUPPET?
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Oregonfire

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 06:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it can be looked at from another angle. If the spotlight is on Jason, then that's good for Chiara. Maybe it'll extend her stay in the house if the "clique" of Marcie, Dani, and Jason is revealed. That is, unless one of those three wins HOH and they turn on her, but they may have targeted her eventually anyway.

Jaysgal

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 06:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Muse, you are mistaken. If Jason votes to evict Eric and Chaira to evict Lisa, it is most likely to result in a tie. You never know what Gerry might decide. He might just decide to make a deal with the devil and save the devil's right hand man. Had he nominated Roddy, he would have a better chance of not having to answer to questions from the almighty.

As I said earlier, Roddy is the smartest because he knows how to screen people psychologically. He picked disciples that are vulnerable. He is a natural leader, if you ask me, for his ability to pick followers who would actually do something for him with promises of eternal reward.

Again, contrast that with Danielle who *thinks* that she has disciples, but does not. The only possible disciple she has is Jason. The rest are not disciples. Marcellas has a mind of his, and so does Gerry. Josh has his too but he's more unstable and likes to be a part of the popular group. Gerry also likes to be a part of the popular group, even as a subject. Danielle does not have anyone, except possibly Jason, as she thinks she does.

Roddy is smart and plays with people's psychology. Roddy's favourites are Chiara and Eric. They are the easiest to mentally confuse. Josh is next to his favourite.Roddy also uses his physical appearance in a non-obvious manner. But despite his smartness, he is not very smart. Anyone can outsmart him. It does not take genius to outsmart Roddy. He will be caught some day before the end of the game. It won't be Danielle who leads to his downfall, though. It will be someone else.

Earthmother

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 06:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Pinocchio will do what Geppetto tells her to do..."Hey Dani be careful of people with long noses."

Muse

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 06:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I know that it'd be a tie, Jaysgal. :) But I think that Gerry is leaning towards evicting Eric at this point. If Marcellas and/or Danielle pushed a little harder for it (which I'm not sure they will, since they don't realize it might be a tie), I think he'd definitely get rid of Eric.

The thing about Gerry and Marcellas is that they are serious about their alliance with Danielle. And I think Gerry is so intent on proving that he's a good person that he might even go so far as to take the fall for Dani. Or, at the very least, he won't campaign against her. Marcellas is a little more out for himself, IMO, but he trusts Danielle more than he does Josh, Gerry, or either of the couples. So he'd want to protect her, too.

I do agree that Roddy picked people that he can control to some extent...definitely followers. Chiara is even willing to give up the game for him. Or so it seems, at least.

Dlurkrgrl

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 11:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Now she is trying to convince Jason to vote out Lisa...guess Roddy got to her. But she won't let Danielle in on the plan

Nermal

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 11:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Even though my expectations of her were low, Chiara has managed to fail to meet them. What a fool!

Mslyegirl

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 11:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
According to the LFP Chiara just told Jason she is considering vetoing Eric. If that happens Gerry has got to put Roddy up and break up the couples.

Bbrules4ever

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 11:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
no doubt about it now! Ki-Ki is pushing Jason hard to Vote out Lisa! She says Eric is a much stronger player than Lisa who is "wishy-washy". Chiara also says that by her voting out Lisa , this is her chance to "prove" to the guys of the house that its not a "girl-guy" thing.


How could she turn on Lisa like that? That is terrible!!!!!!!

Nermal

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 11:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought she was saying she was going to vote to keep Eric. I am not sure she said she'd use the veto to do that, though. I am hoping we can hear Jason explain to Danielle exactly what he thought Chiara was saying.

Bbrules4ever

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 11:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
chi-chi is definitly NOT using the Veto.....she just told Jason there is no way she would risk Gerry putting up Jason if the Veto is used......

Zeyna

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 11:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Nermal, that's what I heard as well. And just now she told Jason that she will NOT be using the veto

Oregonfire

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 11:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I know--I'm seeing this too. I don't mind so much that she's thinking about turning on Lisa, but it's the wrong time to do it. Chiara's not in the majority, and her betrayal is going to bite her in the butt next week. Why doesn't someone say to her "But Eric is going anyway. Gerry has already said that he'd cast the tiebreaking vote to get rid of Eric. Duh!" Sheesh she is really frustrating me here, shooting herself in the foot.

Ohoops I see the comment about vetoing Eric. What in the world is going to happen today?

Crossfire

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 11:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason? You'd think she'd be more worried about Roddy going up. Even if Jason got put on the block, I am fairly certain he'd survive.

I guess she does not understand the reasons that the people who were picked, got picked.

Reader234

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 11:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Interesting, she is trying hard to find a new "4th" imo to add to the alliance, they know one of the 4 will go, so recruting is happening!! With all the layers of alliances, it doesnt seem as there are any secrets!! LOL Now how long do you think it will take before Dan. tells Lisa that Kiki is going to vote to oust L? LOL

Dee723

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 11:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It'll be interesting when Jason runs to Danielle that Chiarra is voting against Lisa. LOL. Oh the fireworks are going to start soon!!

Wendo

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 12:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Not only that, Dan will realize how much she CANNOT trust Chiara. And, she'll use that to her advantage. The main thing here will be will Jason stick to his commitment to Dan. And, will Ja/D/M still vote to evict Eric b/c if they do, then they have to know that they're exposing themselves and will HAVE to go for HOH if they want to be protected.

I hate to say this, but Chi is such a tool. Rod has really worked her, but it's her fault for allowing it and it's definitely going to cost her this game. Heck, Rod was even hinting to Ja during his convo with him a bit ago that that's a hard decision coming. I totally got the impression he was saying, she'll go when he wants her to go.

Kuchi

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 01:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy told Chiara that Josh told him that Lisa was going to come after Chiara (convo took place last night supposedly) for not using veto. Chiara called her a c--t and said that she feels better about voting her out now.

Wendo

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 01:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kuchi, Yes! I just heard this convo. Has Lisa ever said this? Also, did Josh say this to Roddy? Or, did Roddy make it up?

Bmh

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 01:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa never said that..Josh was lying I think

Bbrules4ever

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 01:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ooohhh i love all these lies , deception and intrigue!!!! heheheheh!

Jan

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 03:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
great quote from Kiki to Josh about the couples being as one.."if Eric feels that way about you so does Lisa. They are one...just like if Roddy loves you, then I love you."

So yeah, I guess puppet is the right word.

Jello

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 03:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Finger puppet? HAND puppet?
Sorry, couldn't resist.

Is Gerry Roddy's puppet as well or will he veto Eric upon tiebreak?

Wcv63

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 05:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If you were ever in any doubt about what criteria Chiara is using to determine her vote it has just been confirmed on Feed 3 that Chiara will vote the way Roddy tells her to.

He's telling her that it's "in her best interest" to vote against Lisa even if the story about Lisa coming after her is a lie. He didn't even have to shore that up with any additional reasons.

Mrsm45

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 05:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I know Chiara is a girl BUT... I just wish she would develop some temporary B--ls and think for herself and STOP being Roddy's pawn...Enough already

Oregonfire

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 05:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"What should I do?" in a whiney voice. OMG I have finally had enough. I can't believe she's being so wishy washy! Does Chiara have to ask Roddy's permission for everything!? Now she's saying I know why Danielle wants Lisa to stay: because Dani will have her vote or something. I give up, Chiara, I just give up. Go home. You have no instinct for this game.

Bbrules4ever

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 05:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
chiara is acting so needy/dependant on roddy it is making me uncomfortable. am i the only one?

Strkaholic

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 05:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
M..I'm with you..I do like Chiara because I think that her trash talk is mostly just that..talk. But right now I am getting angrier and angrier with her..I don't think Roddy is so much playing her to where he will not have her back, but I think he is manipulating her into doing what he wants, even though he will do as he says and try to protect her. Little does he know that means nothing.

She needs to think for herself and wake up to the fact that they are all playing her, except Lisa.

Oregonfire

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 05:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh my heck no! I feel the same way. And you know if *I* feel that way, it's bad. (former Chiara supporter.)

Duster4260

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 05:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy is so good at getting others to do his dirty work and his channel is Chiara and Josh. Feed Chiara whatedver misinformation you want and reaffirm Josh in his paranoid, delusional beliefs and lies. All he has to do is lay there and watch it all happen.

Wcv63

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 05:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He is trying to isolate her so that he is the only one she trusts. He doesn't want her to develop any close relationships in the house. He wants to make sure that "female bonding" will not interfere with his exclusive hold on Chiara. This way he knows that he is in total control and she will do his bidding.

Shadowkat

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 05:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As much as I get frustrated with Roddy for manipulating Chiara, she's the one who allows it to happen. Not only does Roddy manipulate her without her knowing it, she asks him what she should do, just asking to be manipulated more! You don't see Dani allowing it.

Wcv63

Monday, August 05, 2002 - 06:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes Shadowkat it is Chiara's fault for allowing herself to manipulated. Let me just postulate something.

Knowing Roddy's attitude about women, and knowing that he more than likely seeks out women he can manipulate, I am finding him to be more and more controlling as time goes by. I know this is a game.

That said, isolation is one of the very first signs of being in an unhealthy relationship. But he is soooo good at this that I think it is something he has practiced for a long time in other relationships.

I'm probably not explaining this coherently at all. If anyone can surmise my point and explain it more articulately, please do so.