BB3 messing with the HGs
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Dfwteddy

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 07:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Posters in several threads have insinuated (or point blank stated) that the BB3 crew is messing with the houseguests -- directing their thoughts and attention through their DR questions. Can anyone share some examples?

Stargazer

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 07:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
When Chia said the DR was asking her about Amy and Roddy which I believe caused all the A/R/C arguing.
I belive but cannot say for sure, maybe someone can correct me but I thought I remember C saying that the DR asked her if she was sure she could trust Jason. I can't remember if it was during the Eric vote or when they were just talking about maybe voting for Roddy instead of Josh. My weeks are getting mixed up. It's beginning to be one big blur.

What555456

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 08:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Of course they are messing with them -- indirectly, subtley. They want a decent TV show.

Victoriafla

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 08:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes they do... I can't give any examples yet,( I need to think) but keep watching and you will pick up on little things that happen, you will know the DR is starting some S***.

Victoriafla

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 09:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
One thing I did notice but am not sure of is Chaira voting Roddy. Here is an example...Dr may have said something to Ch about being dependant on Roddy, etc, etc,....... and if she was gonna let Roddy do the voting for her. This didn't happen, but this is an example as to what they could be doing, we just don't get to see it, you see what I mean.They put thoughts in their heads and Bam something odd happens.. I'm still thinking for ya though,,

Justshirley

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 09:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
A LFP on another site reported last night (Sat.) at 10:48 p.m. that Roddy told Chiara that he had been asked in the DR "How does he feel about the loss of a 2nd loyal supporter in 2 short weeks?" and that the DR producer-person had gone on to tell Roddy that Josh has never once given a DR confessional that was disloyal to Roddy. Roddy then went on to tell Chiara that he was now mad that he had forced the nomination of Josh.

Now THAT just seems wrong. Part of the fun for us (the viewers) is watching the paranoia set in with the hamsters. They get to the point where they feel they can't believe anybody. To have the DR confirming for them the loyalty (or lack thereof) of certain players is just not right.

Mrose4243

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 09:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Early this morning, when no one was up, one feed focused in on Amy's picture. It kept zooming in and out, then the camera stayed on it for a while. The camera did not focus on any of the other evicted HG pictures.

Things that make you go 'hmmmmmmm'

They're messing with us, too!

Costacat

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 09:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought the whole point of the DR convos was that they were confidential. It seems as if the BB producers this year are using the DR to stir up the lab rats.

Of course, the "rules" could've changed for this year...

Spunky

Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 09:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Remember Roddy saying

"I just hope they won't come back to haunt me"... well, well, how did he know?? They were told of former hgs coming back a couple of days ago and he said that weeks ago... Sure, we may think he was referring to the final episode....
but someone in the DR could very well give hints on things to come...

Also, and we talked about this already, they keep asking them questions and we only hear their answers, this is for editing purposes. It always amazed me at how well orchestrated their comments were and the points they made. They are coached very well...

Djgirl5235

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 06:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If you remember last year, the DR was always asking questions of the HG's and stirring things up. They were always making Nicole crazy with their machinations towards good plot lines. Every time that she was in there, as soon as she came out, there were sparks flying... Just a thought.

Maris

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 06:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The classic manipulation story this year was the DR asking Chiara about Amy going after her man. They put ideas into Chiara's head which made her go over the top totally. Amy got so upset about what the DR did to her that they gave her a robe as compensation.

Marcellas also said that the DR is always asking everyone about Gerry's hygene as though to egg them on.

Cndeariso

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 08:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I found it very interesting that as soon as Marcellas guessed that maybe Amy was coming back into the house BB called him into the DR. This was before the big announcement as to what 'Expect the Unexpected' meant.
I also found it interesting that Gerry also suggested that a houseguest might come back.
Either they are very good at guessing or BB has planted knowledge.

Mrfucia

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 02:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The longer this show goes on, the less I think the HG's should be honest in the DR. There is no advantage for them to speak about their true feelings and take a chance that one of the producers will spill the beans or that an evicted HG will see the show.

The only things the HG's should say in the DR are things that will not come back to bite them. For example, instead of saying something like Amy's a drunk and has got to go, say that Amy's bubbly personality makes people feel comfortable around her and that's a threat to me. Even though that might be complete BS, I think that if Amy were to hear the latter comment she would take it as something positive and not hold it against the person who said it. The DR is not a private escape from the game. The HG's should not say anything in there that they wouldn't say to the other person's face because there's a very good chance that it will be leaked.

Mollywood

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 03:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
just today dr said something to lisa about "girl power" what she thought of it now..stiring the pot again...also, im sure the fact that some people guessed early on a house guest might be coming back..just a coincidence..all they have to think about is what might happen in the house..they would be idiots not to randomly hit on it eventually.

Bmh

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 03:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Mrose..I saw that too..it was freaky!..They kept zooming in and out of Amy's evicted black and white picture..it was on it for a while..and they never once switched it to Lori,Tonya,or Eric..it just kept the camera on Amy..it definitely gets you thinking....

Wcv63

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 03:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Most definitely behind the scenes manipulations exist. There is no doubt that Arnie uses the DR to either further or fabricate storylines by the line of questioning utilized.

Bigbrotherbelle

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 03:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Two that I can think of right off the bat:
-The DR asked Roddy "how do you feel about Amy saying that Chi uses her sexuality to manipulate Jason?" Roddy knew nothing of this before BB asked the ?.

-The DR was asking if Chi thought Jason was backstabbing her even before the Eric/Lisa vote.

Gritss

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 03:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This is slightly off-topic, but the comment about what we see on the LFs when the cameraman does the zooming in/out and focusing on objects concerns me.

I've seen it a few times, especially when the cameras are outside and the HGs are locked inside. I take it as either just the cameramen getting their setups right, or boredom. I've never seen it forecast any particular event.

Has anybody actually seen any LF shots that indicates the camera people know any "inside" info on what is going to happen?

Jaysgal

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 04:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Are you serious, Justshirley? Wow! So Roddy was behind the move to put Josh up for crucifixion. This guy's got no senses and no conscience. That was a little too early, if you ask me, strategically. Oh well! How much I wish the house guests were smart enough to make the decoy the one to leave this time.

Sorry I can't think of one line at the moment. But I do believe that BB does manipulate this game (e.g., feeding house guests with innuendos).

Wcv63

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 04:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Justshirley and Jaysgal....Josh told Roddy those things directly. Perhaps Roddy is just using the DR as the fallguy when talking to Chiara. However, I wouldn't put it past Arnie to ask Roddy about losing a loyal member of his alliance.

Jhezzie

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 04:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Of course the DR is stirring things up. It's part of the game. It's Big Brother.:)

Wargod

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 04:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've noticed them do that on Thursdays alot. Last week it was the empty living room. Camera focused on the two "nominated" chairs, then on each couch and the little round yellow seat.It's almost like they're practicing for where the cameras should be aimed during the live shows.

They might have focused on just any one of the four evicted houseguests pictures to set up the shot for the show where one comes back.

Curlyq

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 05:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
One more example:

Soon after Chiara agreed to vote out Lisa the DR called her in and asked her why she wanted to be the only woman in the house. They then asked her pointed questions about her girl friends back home and how Lisa compares to them. She came out upset and complained to Roddy which led them to call her back in to the DR.

Off2cthwizrd

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 05:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Curly, wasn't it right after that the HG's were instructed to not talk about what is said in the diary room any more?

Curlyq

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 05:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know, but I believe she was chastised in the DR about complaining to Roddy instead of complaining directly to the woman asking the questions.

I don't know that they were told not to talk about the questions anymore. I think I remember that they've been instructed not to lie about the questions, though. In fact, I think I also heard that they're not allowed to lie in the DR either.