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Bmh

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Chiara and Danielle were just talking about it in the Hot tub..it is called Operation Revolving Door..they were complaining how it's not fair that one of the evictees get to come back..so they all want to make a pact to get rid of the person that comes back in as soon as possible..and they said IF the returning evictee gets HOH that person has to put up Gerry or they are out the next week..obviously Gerry isn't in on this pact lol

Any thoughts??

Surini

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't blame them for being upset, somehow this new twist just doesn't seem fair. I think if I was in the house I'd be involved in planning that Operation Revolving Door thingy too!

Shrike3000

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That's easy to say now. If the evictee has HOH there will be lots of butt kissing and new pacts made and alliances formed and everything, stuff like that doesnt last long in the BB house.

As soon as the evictee comes back and one group figures how they can help them everything is out of the window.

I think the HG who returns should also be HOH, give 'em a fighting chance.

Wcv63

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ORD...So the deal is...get the person out right away...or strongarm the person into doing their will and then getting them out right away? I'm in!

Shrike3000

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What defines "fair"? Fitting into the HG's strategy? I love that they screw around with things, so the HG's never have it all figured out. It gets boring that way.

Was it fair when Survivor mixed up the tribes? It sure made the show alot better, and made the players have to always be on their feet.

Aria

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL! I think that is hilarious!

Imagine if Roddy is evicted this week, can't you see Chiara clamoring to get close with whoever comes back in for some sort of ally?

What if Josh is evicted and Tonya or Eric comes back in the house? Then all of Dani's hard work will be for naught if one of Roddy's allies wins HOH.

They really are a smug lot in that house. I say stay tuned folks, I wouldn't count out the returning HG just yet.

Gouraphik

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The HG's don't really have much of a say in the matter. It depends on what the producers want. If the producers really want the returnee to cause trouble, they should make them HOH and force them to make their nominations BEFORE they get in the house (ex. all the exiles choose their potential noms beforehand, but only the returnees' choices are valid). The noms wouldn't be revealed until Friday, but the HG's wouldn't be able to influence the returnee.

I doubt this will happen, though. If the returnee gets HOH, yet chooses the noms like usual, they may well get influenced (except perhaps Lori, who liked Gerry). If they don't get HOH, they're as good as dead the following week. It simply depends on how it's set up by the producers.

Shrike3000

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Aria, there is alot being said now, but I think people all over the place are going to be trying to get the retrning HG on THEIR side. I say the returning HG will be in a really position when they come back

Bmh

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ya Eric wouldn't have a problem nominating Gerry anyways..neither with Tonya..and Im sure Amy would nominate Gerry and Chiara will a little influence

Shrike3000

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Amy would put up Chiara and Roddy (if he's still there). I think with time out of the house to reflect, she probably is pretty angry at the guy who kicked her out.

Muse

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I really don't see ORD happening. Another BB site is reporting that a "very reliable source" has said that the returning HG will be made HOH. I don't know if that's true or not, but even if it isn't, the HG has a good chance of being protected.

I think Chiara is just talking about it because she wants to have an excuse to evict Amy or Lori again. And Danielle might agree to it, but only because she'd like to have a good reason to get rid of Eric or Tonya. lol...but of course if Tonya returns, Chiara will be singing a different tune. If Amy returns, Danielle would probably love to see her stick around. Etc, etc - you get the point. :)

Ravenest

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I love this twist, too. Dani's face when they showed all the evictee's video clips was priceless. I was remembering those times she's said "3 down, 8 to go" and "4 down, 7 to go". If I were in the house, I'd feel the same way the HGs do, too. I'm sure their strategies will be out the door, according to what happens with this former HG's return! I can hardly wait - I am so seriously addicted to BB!

Wcv63

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Did they kiss each other on the cheek as they signed ORD into effect?

Annavenis

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy said he asked in the DR about the returning guest becoming HOH and he said he was told "no". As far as "ORD" goes, they should give the returnee "one week immunity" from nominations because then their nomination & eviction that week would be obvious and lame - rendering this "twist" totally useless! Give them one week to get settled back in and get their strategies straight. I PRAY that it's not Eric and especially not Tonya. I don't want to see Chiara get any buddies into the house. Please no...

Mschumacher

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
>>>Surini wrote: I don't blame them for being upset, somehow this new twist just doesn't seem fair.<<<

FAIR? What does "fair" have to do with Big Brother? I think people are completely forgetting what Big Brother is based on. It is based on Orwell's 1984.

"Big Brother: Big Brother is not a real person. All-present as he is, all-powerful and forever watching, he is only seen on TV. Although his picture glares out from huge posters that shout, BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU, nobody sees Big Brother in person. Orwell had several things in mind when he created Big Brother. He was certainly thinking of Russian leader Joseph Stalin; the pictures of Big Brother even look like him. He was also thinking of Nazi leader Adolph Hitler and Spanish dictator Francisco Franco. Big Brother stands for all dictators everywhere. Orwell may have been thinking about figures in certain religious faiths when he drew Big Brother. The mysterious, powerful, Godlike figure who sees and knows everything—but never appears in person. For Inner Party members, Big Brother is a leader, a figurehead they can use to frighten people and justify actions. For the unthinking proles, Big Brother is a distant authority figure. For Winston, Big Brother is an inspiration. Big Brother excites and energises Winston, who hates him. He is also fascinated by Big Brother and drawn to him in some of the same ways that he is drawn to O'Brien, developing a love-hate response to both of them that leads to his downfall."

http://www.gerenser.com/1984/analysis.html

Wcv63

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Doesn't this book also involve putting someone's head in a cage filled with rats? Or is that Clockwork Orange?

Bigbrotherbelle

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think that the returning HG has much of a chance at this point in time. However, OF COURSE Chi and Rod want ORD in effect. Eric is likely to be after Gerry anyway. Tonya would be easy to influence. What they are afraid of is Amy and Lori who are most likely to be against them. I noticed Dani did not express agreement with Chi's commandment that if the returning HG is HoH, they should strongarm them into nominating Gerry. She would like to see Amy back to nominate C and R, not G.

On a related side note, I am so aggravated by the way it is so obvious that C and R think they can control the game. Why is it they say "this is it, no talking about the game!" and then turn around and talk about it all they want AND get aggravated when they hear others talking about the game. Who died and made them kings?

Tvjunkie

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I love the twist.
So what if they don't think it is fair? As Mom always told me, "Life isn't fair!" Besides, it makes it more interesting to us, and from the point of view of network that is the idea.... isn't it? I can't wait to see what happens. I don't think that they will stick the the ORD pact once they see someone come in who could help them get to the money and send someone they consider a threat packing.
This week should be really great!

Shrike3000

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
thanks TvJunkie! Finally someone who agrees with me, the twist is just what BB3 needed! I love it, it adds so much to the show.

Nermal

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy was just saying to Lisa that they need to stop this ORD thing because the two of them don't want Eric kicked out again if he's the one that returns.

Snee

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
wcv, that head/cage/rat thing is from '1984'. i read the book in highschool and never got over that part! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Wcv63

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Snee...yes quite right! As you can see that part really made an impression on me as well!

Tvjunkie

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No prob Shrike3000! I got your back!

Cyn

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 11:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
they'll only be mad if the returning HG isn't one of their clan.

can't believe that Ro will vote out Er.
can't believe that Ch will vote out To.

they are just in fear of Am and Lo.

ooops, just saw Nermal's post. this is exactly what i mean.

Wcv63

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 11:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Aha! Dani just said that it was Chiara's position that Gerry ORD would only be put into effect with the condition that Gerry be put up. Then she said and I quote, "That's that strong arm tactic again".

Marc responded with "She hasn't learned her lesson yet."