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TV ClubHouse: Archives: Archive Three: Roddy & Josh fighting right now about campaigning in front of everybody!!!! WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!: Archive through August 13, 2002

Seanflynn

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So Keiffer, you now agree with us that Roddy is a shrewed player, and that if the others want to win he needs to go this week?

Jaysgal

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey, maybe they are covering their backs. They still plan on evicting Roddy but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't give Josh his piece of the pie. Besides, I think they are being cautious just in case their plans fail. It's the nature of the beast. We are human and endeavour to what is favourable to our personal interests.

One doesn't have to make Josh an angel in order to justify their decision to evict Roddy. So, be patient. The talk will still continue.

Cameltoes

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Meanwhile Marcellas is getting some interesting information out of Roddy right now. Roddy basically admits using Josh as a foot soldier.

Goddessatlaw

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If I were Dani, I'd start shoring things up with Gerry - stank frito toes or not.

C1mag

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bmh why is it that soooo many viewers can see through Roddy but you can't. You are banking on a variable that has yet to exist and that is Roddy will lose power. You don't bank on that just because there is an obnoxious player in the game. You control Roddys destiny by booting him out and then you know for sure he has no power. Lord this is a game. Not some tv sitcom where you want the mean guy to go. In the game you lust after getting rid of the master manipulator. You let nothing stand in your way.

Tommy

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Looong time lurker and I just finally had to be a first time poster.

Roddy is just amazing? He can't understand why marcella's would vote against him b/c of something Josh says???? HELLO...isn't that the the reason Chiara claims for voting out Lisa? b/c of what Josh said???

This "intellectual" manipulation under the guise of "caring" in unbelievable!! The thing is ,I really believe Roddy believes his own bul***t.

But I guess in Rod & Chia's book, blackmail and extortion for votes is okay?

Bbrules4ever

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i DESPISE Roddy. (I guess i love to hate him) But I have great respect for his gameplaying.....brilliant manipulator.

Amac

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just wondering: Are we starting to think that Roddy is the best player of this game, irrespective of what we think of him otherwise? Is he a better player than, say, Dani or Jason?

Txbb3fan

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Chi just said she would have definitely put G up against Josh and Roddy would have voted Josh out to Marcellas.

Hello???? Doesn't Marcellas already know this????

Oregonfire

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And as a side note, Dani did that weird "sitting straight up on the edge of the chair/bed" thing that she does when she's worried about being exposed. Look for it sometime--it's creepy!

Wcv63

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No I refuse to capitulate. I will never say Roddy is anything but a bully. He may be using this as a tactic but it makes me heartily dislike him. Brilliant? No. Strategy? No.

He wants to strongarm his way to a win. I hope he doesn't succeed.

Zeyna

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Funny how Roddy picked the evening before the votes are cast to do this..smart move

Maris

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh yes Wc, that was a strongarm tactic all the way and I think it worked. They are like lemmings to the sea.

Wendo

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bmh, where Roddy has power is in the end game, that is why he needs to be evicted. Yes, when it comes to allies, he doesn't have many, but his strength comes from the inside, his ability to manipulate situations so that someone else is the bad guy; if he's on the block with someone then he is the one to keep because, well, he's playing "honestly".

Romans8_1

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've said it before in other threads, R is a power. He just hasn't used it until now. I am no R fan, but I recognize him for what he is. He IS a threat.

Gouraphik

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't generally comment on who's the "best" player, simply because it's too subjective. However, some strategies are better than others, and each HG has their strength.

Josh is a crap-stirrer and is good at making "backroom" deals. Roddy is a master at the art of emotional manipulation and mirroring. In a game like this, where emotions are a major factor (although a wise gameplayer should not vote based on emotions alone), Roddy's technique trumps Josh's for the most part.

But anything can happen this year. I luuuuuuv it!

Bbrules4ever

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
why the heck dont they do live voting???

Woodpecke®

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This scenario was worth the price of the feeds. It also changed nothing in the game. Josh is now a corpse in this game, while Roddy still has no support. He is merely being strung along like he has been the last week, and he has virtually no options. He simply has become a sitting duck for the powers that control things presently.

Oregonfire

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer, where are you? Please respond! I got your back!

C1mag

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey I give Roddy all the credit. The man has them right in the palm of his hands. I personally would never have let him through after this week but the game has made most of them mental mush! This is very easy to predict from here on out... Roddy will be the winner!

Paulyaceiii

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
For someone who thinks he's so smart, Roddy is an out and out fool.

For those of you who thought it was smart strategy to drive the final nail in the coffin on Josh just now...I gotta disagree. It, much like Chia's smart idea to put Roddy on the block, was quite foolish.

Roddy had very little to gain, since it looked like he had the vote sewn up anyway, and a LOT to lose.

It was a fluke Marcellas asserted him and saved Roddy's bacon.

Gouraphik

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They might do live voting once the numbers get low enough in the house. They did that last year...although I don't remember exactly which week it started.

Pulk

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If they had live voting then Josh may have 3 votes by 8:20pm and thus the drama cant be stretched.

Paulyaceiii

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Goura, they started when the house was down to 6 last year.

Woodpecke®

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 04:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy had nothing to gain, he isn't shrewd, and he is showing in his conversation with Marcellus that he doesn't even recognize that he is on a level with the rest of the people. He is even more snide than I originally imagined.