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Dagny

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I haven't been watching the live feeds from the start...but could "her father" (dani's) be her "biological" father...not the father, "the minister?" (I am taking for granted from the prior poster that said her father is a minister..is true)

Kaili

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jane...you're right. the difference is lower Socio-Economic classes get caught and prosecuted more often. Also, the prevalence of certain drugs is higher among the "elite" than in lower classes. Cocaine is the rich person's drug while crack is the poor person's drug (just an example).

As for peer pressure, absolutely!! It would be sitting there and nobody cares if you pass the joint, pipe, bong, or whatever on. More for them! I never experienced that kind of pressure AT ALL! I never had a joint or hit of LSD shoved in my mouth. And personally I never had that with smoking either.

Wcv63

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dagny...I heard the herion convo and it was a weird idiotic joke. It was NOT serious.

Not a Roddy fan. Not a Chiara fan. Also not a big fan of unsubstantiated rumors.

Dagny

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
WCV63...then maybe it should be removed from the LF's... People are going to read that as FACT.

Wigglepuppy

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
How about e, What? Can you imagine Gerry sweating and hanging off of Marcellas ("I love you, man, you're such a hot dancer!") BARF.

Jane_Bond

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually, funny LSD story: Went to a party in, I don't know, maybe Gr. 11 (about 1988, I think) and someone was selling "purple mic". Well, my buddy bought a hit. I was waffling about it, not sure if I was metally prepared for the possible trip and hallucinations, nor the ten hour committment to ride the trip out. It turned out to be a good thing, because my friend unwrapped his hit and it turned out to be a chip of purple pencil! Haha! Silly bugger!

And, yes, Kaili, the whole socio - economic thing would only really show up in what drugs you might choose to consume (and possibly get hooked on if you were greedy).

I have a friend who is a teacher who marvelled at the highschool kids who would get caught B&E'ing for drug money. "Get decent grades and get a job to pay for your drugs!" They would say, as they passed the pipe over. Those of us who choose to consume these substances, but show up to work sober everyday and "cover our asses" don't get into trouble (generally) and don't cause trouble.

Wcv63

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dagny perhaps you could ask the mods to post a clarification by the LF post? Since it actually was said but the tone and/or intent was not reported?

Seamonkey

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think if Roddy says he hasn't done drugs, he hasn't. So far I see no reason to question that statement.

The heroin reference, I'm sure is a joke just like the running joke that Chiara and Roddy have about his "wife".

I never smoked (tho the second hand smoke was copious in our home, and also after I got married) and ate hashish once. That's it. And I went to Berkeley in the sixties. I think had I been a cigarette smoker, I might have smoked pot too. Don't know. The hash was in the very early eighties after I was divorced.

I had several friends who were heavy into acid and other drugs who did mess up their lives, including our highschool student body president who went on to similar positions at Berkeley but managed to get fried on acid and to this day, some days he is ok, somedays he's toast. Luckily, he came from a wealthy family.


ex husband tended to have a paranoid personality and the three documented times he had pot, each time he was so paranoid that it was quite likely he might hurt himself. One time he was hallucinating and broke a window. That one I saw myself. And yes it was suggested that the pot was laced with something else, but in each case others smoked with him and no one else had that reaction.

Other highly successful members of my family smoked dope for years and years before stopping and showed no noticable effect. Sometimes it is highly individual, so I'd never try to convince anyone that anything is "safe".

Anyway I believe Roddy (tho I really don't give a rip if he ever did anything.. those cigars seem far more lethal to me).

Kaili

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Marcellas wouldn't do drugs with other people probably without disinfecting the pipe with his alcohol. I can't see him sharing a joint! It's always funny the mixed company you could end up in while smoking pot and that people would have no problem putting their mouths on the same thing that has been in everyone elses's mouth!

Jbear

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Judging a person's use of drugs by education and or family status is absurd.

I am one of 9 children (yes, we are Catholic) and the only one who has never smoked ANYTHING, drank coffee, used anything illegal or drank more than one or two glasses of wine/champagne - none in the last ten years due to health problems. My siblings continue to smoke both tobacco and pot, drink excessively and recreationally use Vicodin.

Two of my siblings own their own successful businesses and never miss work, one is an attorney, two work for Fortune 500 companies and I was an Air Force pilot retiring after 22 years. We also have one screw up who graduated college but can't hold a job to save her soul, she quits everything and 2 are dead.

Roddy resembles my brother who died in 1996 in a car accident stone cold sober on his way home from work. Useless trivia spouting and acting superior were two of his favorite hobbies in front of people. He made a good 6 figure income and was quite proper again in front of people. When he was with his friends, he smoked pot, drank excessively and played around with drugs but if anyone said anything, he would turn it on you as quickly as Roddy does, and my brother played Major League Ball in 1982 - 1983.

The moral is you can't judge a book by it cover or in this case - a houseguest by what they say, they are there for one reason and one reason only to win $500,000, by whatever means necessary be it role play to fit another's perception or lie or cheat.... Sooner or Later they will all do it one degree or another. Sorry for the long post.

Mr_Bozack

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It was so funny to see this thread when I got home. I just happen to be smoking a joint right now. Take my word for it, it's the only way to watch Big Brother. It makes the drama waaaay more intense, and you feel like you're in the house with the houseguests.

I could easily go the full three months in the house without any chronic, but it would be so much more tolerable with access to it. It's a great time killer.

Battlestar

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
willsfan---my nephew took ritalin all his school years. At 6'3" I would have to say--I hope it didn't effect his growth---otherwise he may have been 7 feet tall without the Ritalin

Wigglepuppy

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
word, Mr_Bozack.

Kaili

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I recall South Park and King of the Hill being fun ones to watch while smoking as well :)

Mr_Bozack

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wore a bright yellow t-shirt to the office today that has "The Weed Man" screened across the chest. I'd definitely pack that shirt if I was going into the Big Brother house.

Kaili

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was purposely avoiding the Ritalin topic. Now I want to get my word in on that too! While some I suppose do need it, I think it is WAAAAY over prescribed. They give it to 2 year olds and younger these days! What two year old isn't hyper? If they were passing it out like they do today, I would probably have been on it!'


I was told a story by a Soc. prof. about his neighbor- a little boy who...I don't remember what was wrong with him but he has leg braces. Not sure...MS or something? Anyway, he went to talk to him one day and the kid was really lethargic. Now why does a kid who can't even run around and is about 7 yrs old need Ritalin?

The United States uses more Ritalin than any other nation. I believe we use about 90% or so of the world's supply if not more. I'm thinking the doctors andthe drug companies have certain deals. And once a kid is on it, it's hard to be "allowed" to get them off with pressure from doctors and schools.

Kaili

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, just thought I would mention...just now there was a commercial on TV saying early tobacco use leads to hard drugs. I always hated the "gateway drug" references.

Wcv63

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kaili is that one of those "infect knowledge" commercials? Is alcohol a "gateway drug" too? What about aspirin? Tylenol? Sleepytime tea?

Moondance

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kaili I completely agree with you ... Ritalin is over prescribed .... along with a lot of other drugs:)

Kaili

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No, it was a cigarette commercial...actually it was a commercial saying that Wisconsin won't sell tobacco to minors because it leads to hard drugs, etc.

There also has been anti-drug commercials where there is a montage of kids saying they killed innocent people, did this and that, and at the end the screen says that drugs support terror. Kind of exploitive I though about that commercial. Anyone else see that one?

Mr_Bozack

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Speaking of drug commercials, Redman and Method Man's "Right Guard" anti-persperent commercial is on the air right now. I tell you, it's a great, new world in which we live when two guys best known for their classic, club banger "How High" can score a lucritive endorsement deal like that.

Wcv63

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I yes...I've seen those. I helped bomb a building today. I helped kill a judge.

Very exploitive and very inflammatory.

Jane_Bond

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I saw that commercial, too. What rubbish! Obviously made by the same folks who have brought of After-School Specials.

Jane_Bond

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ah, actually, there looks to be a lot of anti-drug commercials on lately as, with further descriptions, your commercials don't resemble mine. Just one of those PSA's about tobacco use and being a crack addict ones.

Kaili

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You know what I think is really interesting is that this issue- drugs and drug use- has been so much less argumentative than the hygiene threads. I would have thought there would be more criticism of posters and what they do or have done. People seem to care more about how clean their kitchen sink is! And I thought drugs were contraversial! haha