Dani's Possible Downfall
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What555456

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Right now, Dani is clearly in charge. Her possible downfall? If she begins to believe her own press releases, like Hardy did last year.

As the game progressed and Hardy's lying and cheating produced positive results for him, he began to believe he was invinceable. His natural arrogance came out and he saw himself as a king without equal. One who could do anything he wanted in that house and people would bow and scrape just for the privilege of his patting them on the head.

Of course, it failed. People can only take pomposity for so long.

Whichever way the vote goes this week, Dani will be on top as she is now. As long as she realizes that the game needs to be played just as strategically until the very end as she is playing it now, she will be fine. Will, last year, understood this. It is one day at a time. One week at a time. One eviction at a time. But one has to play the game every single day. As in politics, things can change a lot in one week, hell in one day, as the HG's obsess on what little they have to do -- which is really nothing more than evict one person each week.

Hopefully, Dani will see this and keep from letting down her guard or from thinking she has total control. Let's hope Dani does not become Hardy.

Maris

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 08:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani's downfall will come as a result of her making too many alliances and promises. Yesterday, she told Gerry that she had his back and she also told him that Josh lied to him when he said that everyone in the house hated him. Gerry will find out in due course that Dani lied to him. This was a BIG lie and not one that she can cover up. Whe I heard her saying this to Gerry I kept thinking big mistake Dani. Gerry is going to tell Marcellas about this.

You can't be all things to all people in that house. It never works. When you present yourself as being honest, trustworthy and truthful watch out when you get caught in a lie.

Kitty54

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 08:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dan overplayed her hand when she did that "poor me - we had to take a loan out for me to come here - my family needs the money - I will have failed if I don't win" with the other houseguests. Afterall, that's why they're all there and there can only be one winner. She may have alienated her allies and I think that could be her downfall.

Crazydog

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 08:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Kitty. Last year it was poor Krista, she's so destitute, she needs to win, and that didn't get her anywhere. Then it was poor Monica, her cousin is missing, she deserves to win. I loved Monica and wanted her to win, but it was evident that everyone in the house was sympathetic to her and would have voted her the money. I think that if Dani continues to play her "poor me" card and gains a lot of sympathy and support that she will find herself booted out before the finals.

Maris

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 08:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I do not think Monica every played the poor me my cousin is missing as a strategy. I didnt see that.

Dani is playing the poor me but it isnt working with the people in the house because there really isn't anything to feel sympathetic about. Dani does not have a bad life.

Grooch

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 08:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Didn't Will play the "Poor me, I have hundreds of thousands college loans and no job when I get out?

And they all bought it. And he won.

Maris

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 08:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lol Grooch but Will did it with a smile. What made Will win the game is that he was honest about lying to all the HGs. People want to be told when they are being screwed with. They want an honest liar!!!!!!!!

Cameltoes

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 08:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Maris. She's talking to way too many people too often. She also overthinks things. What - I agree with you about the one day at a time strategy. I think Jason is best at rolling with the punches and doing the day to day thing. He's seems able to handle the issue at hand (i.e. his Eric vote) pretty well and then just move on.

Crazydog

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 08:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, I agree that Monica didn't play the poor me card, but I think other houseguests played it for her. Even before the attacks I thought there was support for her. Didn't she even say on the show in a DR entry that she was from the ghetto? There definitely seemed to be a lot of support for Monica in the days immediately following the attacks and the houseguest's notification. I believe at one time someone shouted over the wall, "we love you Monya", and they (Will, Nicole and Monica) thought it sounded like Mike Boogie. I think this led Nicole to choosing to go against Will, because she realized there was no way she was going to win against Monica.

Maris

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Crazy you are right about that, Nicole chose to go up against Will because she knew there was no way she would win against Monica.

Costacat

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Any of you think that Danielle may be spreading herself a bit thin? I mean, if you count all the peeps to whom she's promised "I got your back," well, heck... I mean, how many backs CAN she cover at any one time!

Oregonfire

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani has been bugging me the past few days. She's really capitalizing on Lisa's anger at Chiara, which I guess is within bounds for game purposes. She is further aligning herself with Roddy against Kiki also; again, not a big deal within game perameters. But the whole "holier than thou/mediator" persona is starting to wear on me. I want her and Roddy to be the last two in the house so she can have the full on Rodified experience, and then we'll see how reasonable she is.

Mollywood

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
D. 's downfall might be "too much backwatching" but one thing i feel she doesnt have is that sense of entitlement that so many get, like hardy and roddie..ect

What555456

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"Any of you think that Danielle may be spreading herself a bit thin? I mean, if you count all the peeps to whom she's promised "I got your back," well, heck... I mean, how many backs CAN she cover at any one time!"

Of course, the only one who will think she lied about covering his/her back would be the one evicted -- assuming she votes with the majority or the votes even come out. The rest would see her promises as kept.

Spunky

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't like her overconfident entries in the DR, like "Four down, 7 to go.." or something like that. She will have to stop sooner or later or it will jinx her.
On Thursday or on Saturday she'll say again "Five down, 6 to go.." and that's okay, since Josh is the one to go. But when Roddy will put her up this time she may not say that anymore..unless of course she survives the nomination.

Niceguy

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that Danielle's days are numbered because the returnee will have had enough time to think about Danielle's ways. At least I hope they've been thinking. I want her and Chaira gone. I guess that makes me a sexist chauvinist pig. So be it.

Sonia

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I did read many information in this board about the Danielle's "poor me" thing but I had never see that on t.v. coverage. Am I wrong? Did they show it on t.v.? If not, I hope CBS will edit it later because there is really a lot of react about it.

Woodpecke®

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Confidence in yourself is essential in winning the big money. Danielle is focused on her goal, and I doubt she cares what Spunky thinks. I know she doesn't give a rat's a** what Woodpecke®'s ideas are on the subject, and I applaud her handling of this situation so far. Her diary room actions are fun to watch.

Jaysgal

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Huh, Crazydog? Monica's cousin's story did not even come in until about the last minute. I think they only had about three house guests left (or four at most). So, what was there to play? Monica hardly talked about it. She carried on and so did others. So, where did you get all of that from? Maybe the fans were saying that, but Monica never said that, nor did the houseguests.

I think the "poor me" player in BB2 was Krista. And that tactic always ticks me off. And then in BB1, the "poor me" player was George. He made me want to puke and pray so bad that he never made it to the end. I am almost willing to bet that Danielle will not make it to the end. I hope she doesn't.

Kathyb

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
AS far as the "poor me" ploy goes, a lot of people (including some of the hgs)explained wanting Eddie in BB1 to win because he needed the money the most.

Woodpecke®

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I haven't seen Danielle return to the "poor me" ploy. I hate that more than dirty fingers in the popcorn bowl, and it may be that she realized it was suicide for her to bring it up again. Eddie won BB1 using that tactic, and I always found it distasteful. Play the game and stop whining.

Eden

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 10:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think every person ought to be counting off the other players as they exit. Isn't the entire purpose of their being there? Danielle's emotional detatchment is her saving grace. She's all about the game and not about creating life long friendships. If Danielle keeps her focus and her patience she'll be okay. Too often players get too ahead of themselves in their heads when things start going their way. You need a grand plan but you have to make one move at a time to make it happen.

Kitty54

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 12:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whether you like Dan, or not, you must admit she is playing the game. And she is playing day by day. I think she deserves to win, for that reason.