Archive through August 12, 2002
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Archive through August 12, 2002
Puckerbutt | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 10:41 pm     Wcv63 - Maris and I are sorta off topic. We are talking about the name of Gerry Spence's wife, not Roddy's. (And that is common knowledge and probably can be found by using a simple search engine on the web.) P.S. - I'm not saying in the above that Roddy has a wife - just too lazy right now to figure out a way to word it more clearly. |
Wcv63 | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 10:41 pm     Oh Molly!....turn away...go toward the light! Go toward the light I beseech you! |
Avery | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 10:43 pm     Molly, welcome aboard, I am willing to teach you the secret handshake |
Uhoh | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 10:45 pm     okay, this might be a stretch, but... my sense is that although roddy comes across as being part pedantic and part just plain difficult, these tendencies might seem exaggerated in an environment where he really has nobody to banter and exchange views with. chiara is a weak thinker, but roddy interacts with her by default. in the real world, chiara wouldn't be part of his social circle. chiara comes across as being as stubborn as he is, but because roddy is brighter and more verbally skilled, she does in the end often yield or just give up. it's not a level playing field. in chiara's social circle, my sense is that she has to be right maybe even more than roddy. he at least has intellectual curiosity, and when in conversation where he can learn something, he might be completely different. i'm not fond of him, but he can at least usually understand the other person's point (if not agree!), something chiara has more trouble doing. |
Zachsmom | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 10:50 pm     Avery.. don't' you remember at the last meeting..only give out the secret handshake to a full convert.. I have been a Roddy fan since day one.. I am not ashamed to admit it.. |
Efilon | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 10:54 pm     Caliogirl, thanks. I've had my atlas out trying to figure out the island he was talking about on the tv show the other night. And when he was chatting with Lisa last night I was thinking how much I would enjoy a conversation with him. Like you, I don't know what he is like outside the house but I still would love to visit with him. I have a friend somewhat like Roddy, who constantly says things that could be construed as putting women down but in actuality he is just debating, trying to figure out how you really think/feel. It took me awhile to figure him out but once I did we became best of friends. Not that I would ever consider a "relationship" with him but the woman that he married is a very lucky woman. I don't know who in this thread said it but I think he was truly appalled by Chiara's reasoning as to the difference between lying and not lying. I'm appalled by it too! |
Avery | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 10:59 pm     LOL, sorry Zachsmom, I made a late night executive decision. I thought I would impress her with the handshake and get the membership numbers up before sunlight. |
Curlyq | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 11:05 pm     I have always felt that I would love to find an intelligent man, one I could learn from. Roddy has made me rethink this. I still think I would rather be in a relationship with someone who challenges me intellectually, but I'm going to have to add that he has to be able to talk to me like an equal no matter how superior his accumulation of knowledge is. A truly intelligent person will have the wisdom to know when and how to speak to people. Plenty of intellectuals can carry on interesting conversations with less educated people without it becoming a one-sided lecture. Too many times when Roddy is talking I find myself wondering "Is there going to be a test on this later?" To me Roddy seems to behave as though he feels the others are not as highly evolved as he. His previous comments on how he reached a point where he was fed up with the human race helped me understand why. Still, if he really wants to be seen as intelligent I think he should spend more time gaining WISDOM rather than KNOWLEDGE. Unless I need a Trivial Pursuit partner, knowledge without wisdom can become extremely annoying. |
Snee | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 11:09 pm     uhoh: 'my sense is that although roddy comes across as being part pedantic and part just plain difficult, these tendencies might seem exaggerated in an environment where he really has nobody to banter and exchange views with.' i agree, but i think he does have gerry to exchange views with at least--perhaps jason as well. i would like to sit down and talk with him too; i'd like to see if he knows as much as he thinks he knows particularly about philosophy--whether his knowledge is deep or limited to factoids and surface conversation. it's hard to tell inside the house...LOTS of things are hard to tell inside the house! i like the way he is playing the game. are you guys going to get decoder rings? if you are, i might just switch allegiance! |
Avery | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 11:20 pm     I would really like to see Roddy interaction with a single girl that is closer to his intellect, or one that is able to debate and talk with him about things that are interesting with out having to pop his zits while she does it. Snee, If I told you that we were having a slumber party in the treehouse saturday night as our next meeting would you bring people with you???? |
Snee | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 11:21 pm     'Unless I need a Trivial Pursuit partner, knowledge without wisdom can become extremely annoying.' curlyq, i think you hit the proverbial nail on the head. i think a lot of it comes down to some differences. i see it like this: intellectual - connotation = educated intelligent = bright/smart (educated or not) wise = intelligent, thoughtful and patient these need not be mutually exclusive, but sometimes they are. |
Snee | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 11:23 pm     slumber party, you say? *perk perk* i would if the treehouse wasn't plastered with pix of roddy! hehe! |
Kmjm | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 11:29 pm     You know, after watching and listening to Roddy for these weeks, I don't think he's all that bright. He's not at all stupid, but he just has a lot of detail in his brain, not perspective or synthesis. Curlyq is bang on with the observation that he has knowledge without wisdom. He has a good intuitive sense of what people want to hear, and this I think is his greatest strength, not his logic. I think his thing with Chiara works for him because he finds it so easy to manipulate her emotionally, and she doesn't challenge him intellectually. In real life, in a social situation Roddy would be the type of guy I would get into a huge argument with if I was stupid enough (or drunk enough) to let that happen! |
Bernie | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 11:42 pm     Curlyq, I completely agree with your point. Roddy has knowledge, but he has neither wisdom nor modesty. I find him vain, pretentious, and altogether too self-important. The best sort of intelligent person does not talk down to others, but tries to connect. A debate is a discussion of any question, not an opportunity to put down one's opponent, nor flaunt one's ability to coin a pretty phrase. Until Roddy learns some lessons, and/or experiences a few more years, he'll continue to find himself dissatisfied with the human race. |
Oregonfire | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 12:27 am     Good points, Curlyq and others. I find that Roddy doesn't intimidate me intellectually, but his emotional manipulation scares the crap out of me. He seems to know the right time in a conversation to turn his laser probe directly on a person's flaws, whether actual or fabricated. If I were having a good day, I could probably ward off his arguments and personality-dissecting laser beam, but on a bad day, my self-esteem would be in shreds. How could you wake up in the morning next to Roddy not knowing what kind of day it's going to be? Building trust would be tough. |
Snee | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 12:36 am     i think i could handle that, oregon--i wouldn't be waking up next to him. |
Cute1073 | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 12:40 am     usually I really like Roddy but man I can't believe he is bringing up Chiara suggesting that he should save a zuccinni for dinner. That was all she said....maybe you shouldn't have the zuccinni because that could be something that is used to make dinner. He is a master of turning things around and making it the other person's fault, he would drive me nuts as a boyfriend |
Wendo | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 12:42 am     Did you all just hear what Roddy just said about embarrassing someone???? Something like Not deprecating someone to embarass them, not hurting their dignity. Uh, Roddy, how about your behavior toward Gerry? Now he's just a hypocrite. |
Oregonfire | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 12:43 am     Was that just now, Cute? I haven't been watching the feeds much this weekend. What am I still doing up anyway? I have class at 8 a.m. |
Bigbrotherbelle | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 12:45 am     Thanks, I was wondering why the heck he was going on and on about a zuccinni. |
Wendo | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 12:45 am     Cute1073, yes, I agree, he's completely over reacted about zuccinni. He is a master manipulator, orator, and debater. The "clique" should take the time RIGHT NOW to realize what a strong player he is. |
Cute1073 | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 12:52 am     god....If the question bothered him at the time...you say..you know that question bothers me, Not let them go and talk about it for 15min and then go oh by the way that bothered me and this is why you suck......blah blah blah Man Roddy is getting on my nerves tonight...when does this guys run out of words!? |
Creampuff | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 12:57 am     A person who is truly brilliant is usually intelligent enough to know that they do not have to flaunt it nor prove it such as Roddy appears to feel the need to do. He would do best to use his knowledge to play the game and not resort to giving the impression of being a fountain of knowledge, frustrating himself and those around him. My Mom used to say that "there are those who are smart and those who are educated and they're not necessarily the same". Works for me! If Roddy is ticking us off, imagine living with him 24/7. |
Bigbrotherbelle | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 12:58 am     I don't think their little fights are funny. I think they are boring and the other hgs say they are uncomfortable. Why constantly subject others to their arguments like that? Have a little consideration and go argue in your room. Or, excuse me, not argument, "discussion." Sounds like an argument to me. |
Oregonfire | Monday, August 12, 2002 - 01:01 am     Well everyone feels sorry for poor Roddy now. Dani was saying that his feelings were hurt, but he dissects Chiara in front of everyone. The whole situation makes me uncomfortable! Dani's really been workin' it with Roddy today. I *wish* those two were in the final two. See how she likes being examined under the Roddy microscope. |
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