Post about Roddy's cultlike was deleted??? Why???
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Post about Roddy's cultlike was deleted??? Why???
Ginger1218 | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:02 am     I had a post that said Roddy was like a cult leader and it was deleted? That was not even bashing - why was it deletedf? |
Jaysgal | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:11 am     I wonder too. I think Big Brother is clearly for observation or analysis of human behaviour when in confinement. It is from that that the fun stems. We have the right to speak of the characters of the house guests because that is the gist of it all. It does puzzle me that TV Clubhouse forbids any mention of the character of the house guests in psychological or psychoanalytical terms. I recall my description of Roddy as a sociopath was censored. :roll: Not that I really care. I just love free thinking about house guests, so long as it is not an attack of forum members. If the house guests believe one is defaming their character, they'll have to sue the individuals and prove it in court. They subjected themselves to criticism with their contract with CBS. To me, Big Brother is a game version of Real World, and that is what makes me attracted to Big Brother, whereas I am not attracted to most reality programs like Survivor. |
Ginger1218 | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:14 am     Jaysgal, please - I have seem some reallllly mean bashing on here. Commenting on your views of their psyhological profiles (in our opinion) should be free speech. Compared to some of the things said here, it is not even criticism. |
Woodpecke® | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:22 am     It all depends who the Moderator is at the time you post. |
Crazydog | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:22 am     Ginger, we aren't disagreeing with you. I love free thinking about houseguests and it puzzles me as well about the censoring. As long as we aren't starting nasty rumors or attacking other posters I don't see a problem with stating our opinions. That is one of the reasons why I come to boards like this one, and when we are restricted in what we can say about people on TV, it takes some of the fun out of it for me. |
Ginger1218 | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:25 am     I know you aren't Crazydog, I felt that you were agreeing with me. LOL I truly understand censorship of some kind, but not just whimsical censorship because maybe somebody likes Roddy and does not want to face a criticism about him. (JMHO) |
Kearie | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:26 am     I just have to say that many of the moderators learned during BB1, that certain types of post lead to serious bashing. I think they do their darndest to prevent problems they had during BB1. Yes, it is an individual, moderator choice and there are no set of defined rules concern what is acceptable post and what isn't. Perhaps you could try rewritting your deleted post and word it differently. Who knows...it might be acceptable next time. |
Amac | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:26 am     This is JMO. Think twice before you post an opinion about a HG, and decide if it's something you would feel comfortable saying to their face. Again, JMO. |
Ginger1218 | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:30 am     I agree with all you have to say. But my post said this exactly - "Notice that Roddy has a personality similar to a cult leader" Do you think that is bashing? And, I would absolutely say it to his face. |
Aus10 | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:36 am     Applause for Ginger! Cause they would absolutely NOT say it to your face....they'd talk about you behind your back.... |
Hillbilly | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:39 am     ..ginger...i wouldn't take it personal...the internet free speech issues are still being decided. I know that sounds like a tangent thot but I think it is relative in that it hasn't been firmly decided how much responsibility that host boards bear when it comes to allowing defamatory/slanderous things from being posted about individuals. Saying something like so-and-so is like that cult leader could be taken to court in a libel/slander suit. This is one of the better boards..even if they did boot my brunch/tea thread. |
Maris | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:39 am     I think this whole thread will be deleted once the mods wake up because I understand you arent permitted to have a dialogue about moderating either. That said, I would respond to Kearie by saying that I dont think the lithmus test for moderating is whether you think a comment could lead to bashing. Many things could lead to bashing, why not wait till an offensive post is made. It all comes down to what is bashing. my understanding is that you can say that you think someone is acting in a psychotic way but you cant call them a pschotic. Maybe if you had taken the approach that you THOUGHT that Roddy was ACTING LIKE a cult leader. |
Moderator | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:41 am     Moderating is often a thankless job, and often a case of damned if you do and damned if you don't. If we just delete a message with no note, we get unhappy posts and Emails. If we delete a message and leave a note, we get unhappy posts and Emails. If we leave a note, and someone doesn't like the phrasing of the note, we get unhappy posts and Emails. The goal here is to try and diminish arguments that have devolved into name-calling matches. We try a bunch of different ways. Sometimes they work well, sometimes they flop. And sometimes it's difficult to know exactly when to pull the plug. It's a difficult judgment call to know when someone has crossed the line. And on top of it all, we're human. We do the best we can, often under fire from all sides. I doubt that anyone is going to agree with the moderation on this board 100% of the time. I hope individuals can agree with it more often than not. And I hope you can try to remember that we are doing the best we can, just for the sake of an occasional pat on the back and because we care about this place. |
Ginger1218 | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:42 am     LOL I guess I have to approach it that way. Hey it really seems BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU!! |
Realtvfan | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:44 am     JMO You can describe a HG's specific behavior as being less than wonderful by going into the details of other choices the HG had at the time. You may be getting into problems when you describe the HG as being less than wonderful. You can zing someone's specific behavior really well with a little creativity. Left-handed compliments are always an idea. NO offence meant to left-handed people by that last line. To me, JMHO, (and I am not a moderator) "Notice that Roddy has a personality similar to a cult leader" crosses the line from a discussion of a specific behavior to a discussion of the HG personally. Yes, some bad bashing gets past moderators. We have all seen it. Just like everytime I'm pulled over for speeding, other speeders drive by laughing at me behind the cop's back. Nothing is perfect. Up above it was mentioned that "we have the right to speak of ...". To the best of my knowledge use of this board is a privilege, not a right to anyone. JMHO. JMHO |
Ginger1218 | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:44 am     Moderator, I truly understand that, and I thought that I was always pretty controlled. I never really said anything nasty about anybody. Just views on the way people do things. So, I guess I will just watch and keep my opinions to myself. And by the way, I do appreciate the job you all do, keeping things under control, because it could get out of hand quickly. |
Kearie | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:46 am     Moderator.....(pat, pat, pat) I'm trusting your judgement....as long as it isn't my posts you delete.  |
Moderator | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:47 am     Closing this thread. |
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