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Drpepper

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
OK Sanfranjoshfan, as long as we agree he is doing GREAT! Why do you keep telling us it's a GAME. LOL.....I saw your picture you look to cute to be typing such big letters.

Snee

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
c1mag, yup.

sanfran, at the risk of roddying: a strawman argument is one in which the logic is seriously flawed; you argue one point by bringing something in that isn't relevant. just checked my oxford: 'a sham argument set up for demolition'.

Sanfranjoshfan

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I guess I keep saying "GAME" because I think too many people take it too seriosuly.....just emphasizing to punctuate my point, I guess. :-)

Snee

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
hi ryan!

Sanfranjoshfan

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Snee - Aha! I never knew that. Now I do.

Of course, now I wonder how many "strawman" arguments *I* have made here! LOL

Btw, I don't mind being "Roddied" at all! :-)

Snee

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
if you were punctuating your point, wouldn't you say, 'GAME!!!'?

Snee

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
oh sanfran, i learned that term the hard way!

Goddess146

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sanfran(bb1)joshfan, I would explain "strawman" but then I would be exprobrated for the impersonation of the pedantic pontifications of that effete intellectual snob, Roddy.

Sanfranjoshfan

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If I was pun-ctuating my point, I would have to say that for a GAME, it's a pretty "sharp".

:-)

Sanfranjoshfan

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Goddess146 - This is all starting to remind me of the cartoon I posted in the "Why so down about Roddy" thread....

Jhezzie

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't get why this is such an issue. It's a game. I can't see him getting kicked out of Christianity for playing a game of strategy.
Why aren't the rest of the houseguests subject to this issue of religious beliefs or lack thereof and their ability to play?

Goddess146

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am sure Roddy's mother loves him.

Snee

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
jhezzie, 'kicked out of Christianity'! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

goddess, i roddied before i could stop myself. and i wasn't even playing chess, or sitting in a hammock, or anything! *hangs head*

Jhezzie

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP

Oregonfire

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Great. My message got lost. Anyway, I looked up straw man on the net, and I think it means setting up a caricature of your opponent and creating a weak argument based on that caricature in order to make your opponent look foolish. So by using George Bush and Bill Clinton as examples of Christians, their notably unChristanlike behavior (in this context) is highlighted, and the real opponent is made to look foolish in the process.

Does that make sense?

Sanfranjoshfan

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"jhezzie, 'kicked out of Christianity'! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

I know....that cracked me up, too!

I do wonder how Jesus would fair in that house, though. I'm sure they'd evict him right away....his simple presence would make them all feel guilty for their host of impure thoughts....besides, who coluld possibly win against him in the final 2?

LOL

Sanfranjoshfan

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oregonfire...yes that makes sense to me. Thanks!

Snee

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
sanfran: 'besides, who coluld possibly win against him in the final 2?' AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Jhezzie

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jesus would have been right at home in the house. He hung out with lepers, prostitutes, theives, sinners of all kinds, lol!

Ryanc2002

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sanfran - An atheist, because according to an atheist they'd be going into the final vote without an opponent.

Goddess146

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
In this case the strawman was not designed to make any opponent look foolish. It was designed to make the whole topic look foolish. The point being that Christians are people with all the virtues and vices of all people. One can not extract any behavior expectations from a Christian any more than one could from one being a Muslim, Hindu, Agnostic, etc.

</Pedantic ponticiation>

Sanfranjoshfan

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 12:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jhezzie....and he could never be looked upon as not being a "good christian"...as long as he was just being himself.

Oregonfire

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 01:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for explaining it, Goddess. I like pedantic pontification--in a nonRoddy way, that is.

Ryanc2002

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 01:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, I done thought about my theory just a bit more. An atheist in a house full of atheists all except for Jesus.

Sanfranjoshfan

Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 01:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ryan - "Sanfran - An atheist, because according to an atheist they'd be going into the final vote without an opponent."

Aha....but the atheist in a final 2 with Him wouldn't be voting....so it wouldn't matter if he believed he had an opponent or not.