Is Roddy turning Chiara against Lisa now on Feed 3?
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Is Roddy turning Chiara against Lisa now on Feed 3?
Whit4you | Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 08:35 pm     Folks folks folks - listen up lol I keep hearing all this talk about Dani's move not being a smart strategy. I think your forgetting how much WE do not see in that house. The cams are generally focused on two rooms - and or two convos. In addition to that we have an hour here and an hour their of FOTH - where we hear NO convos. If you put together all the times we have NOT seen Dani on the live feeds in the past 3 days it'd add up to 10 or 20 hours! That's a heck of alot of stuff we DONT know about. Dani - kept quite all along about all of her plans and strategies and went way way out of her way to ensure NOBODY knew about her and Jason's pact. She has a very good reason for going to Chaira with the info she did - and we can't know all the details behind it because we've missed like I said 10 or 20 hours of her conversations and chats etc... I can guess and speculate as to her reasons behind it but she clearly didn't do it to gain a potential vote from Chaira - she KNOWS that Chaira and Roddy share everything she's made that very clear to Dani. She KNOWS that Chaira is going to go to Roddy with this info and it will cause the 4 pack to start campaigning against each other the one thing they swore to each other they would never do. IN the END - if Dani makes it to the final two - she's got at least TWO more votes out of this strategy from the current strategy as the 4 pack start stabbing each other in the back. Her going to Chaira with this info has caused Rod to start campaigning stronger against Lisa which is going to alianate both Lisa AND Eric - so Dani would get both their votes in the end. Chaira seeing the true Rod here..and his campaiging against Lisa could also cost him a vote if they are not a couple in the end. Chaira campaigning AGAINST Eric OR Lisa will cost HER 2 votes IF she makes it to the end. Dani coulda sat back and done nothing and let the 4 packers play fair to each other till eviction day and then what? If any of them make it to the finals with her - she'd lose 2 votes at least - you understand? She couldnt win against any of that 4 pack in the end IF the 3 that didnt make it voted for the one that did. Now I'm not saying THAT Is her strategy but its one of a dozen reasons why I can see why she's finally laying her cards on the table. You think SHE is worried about leaving next week if one of the 3 remaining 4 pack'ers get it? LOL She knows she's GAURANTEED at least 2 more weeks in that house so she's now in the end game. If you play poker you can undestand this analogy - (7 card game) First round you definately don't want to raise if you gotta killer hand ...2nd round you up the anti a bit only IF someone else doesnt do it for you.. but eventually if you want the win to mean anything you have to show your hand by raising the bid. This is what she's doing I think. If you want the other dozen reasons why I think her strategy is good - just holler rflmao |
Keiffer | Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 08:38 pm     Bmh, he did talk to Lisa last night for about an hour out in the hamock. I don't think Roddy is doing anything gender based when it comes to these talks. What he is doing is trying to prep the person he thinks is leaving so that if he gets to the final two he has a better shot at getting more votes. He knows this week he doesn't have to solidify with Eric, that he has Eric's vote in the finals. |
Earthmother | Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 08:45 pm     See everyone thought Gerry was the kiss of death and all the while it was Roddy pretending to be Gerry. |
Jaysgal | Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 08:46 pm     "You think SHE is worried about leaving next week if one of the 3 remaining 4 pack'ers get it? LOL She knows she's GAURANTEED at least 2 more weeks in that house so she's now in the end game." How is she guaranteed at least two more weeks? Say, Roddy wins HOH. And then nominates Danielle and Marcellas. He pushes for them to evict Danielle. What do you get: Eric-Danielle Chiara-Danielle Josh-Danielle And then just Jason and Gerry left. It wouldn't matter what direction they went. Optionally, say Lisa remained. Then it would be: Chiara-Danielle Josh-Danielle Lisa may choose Marcellas. And then the tie if at all any goes to Roddy. I put Chiara with Danielle because I know all it takes is sweet talk from Roddy for her to evict Danielle. So, can you explain how in all likelihood she is guaranteed at least 2 more weeks? |
Bmh | Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 08:50 pm     Jaysgal..Whit4u..is saying this in the context that Eric gets evicted..which he probably will anyways |
Spunky | Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 08:53 pm     I think ALL of them deserve what they get... a kick in the butt. The only decent hg is Jason and he's the only one I want to win. Let the rest go quickly. |
C1mag | Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 08:58 pm     I hate to put some reality back into this but as a Dani fan I'm real concerned about her future in this house. If Roddy, Josh or Chiara get this next hoh they are all gunning to get out Dani. I've already heard the conversations. Josh and Roddy have said they will noiminate Dani and Marcellus or Dani and Jason and Dani will go. She could leave next week. She keeps putting all the preassure on Marcellus and Gerry to carry hoh to save her and it may end up being her worst strategy not to go for hoh. Of coarse there is the veto and then there is that little twist coming up, but Dani is not going to cruise through this game by sitting in the background. |
Whit4you | Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 09:01 pm     Dani is voting out Eric - you think LISA would vote against her if the senerio plays out? When the 4 pack find out that Jason has been sitting there for a week implying he's on their side and then voted out Eric - he's going to be a target next week bigtime. If Rod gets HOH trust me he has much bigger fish to fry then Dani 1) Gerry 2) Jason 3) Josh and 4)Marc - Dani is 5th on his hit list at this point. He will be realizing after wed that their is deal going on between Josh / Jason / Gerry / Dani and Marc now why in the world would he put Dani up when all 4 of the others are more likely targets for him? And we KNOW if Lisa or Chaira gets it Dani wont be their target... Basically unless something really unforseen happens (like Jason is playing both sides and votes for Lisa to leave) Dani's basically the safest person in the house for the next two weeks. Course who knows what the twist they have planned will do to all this LOL. Your right - she could end up being put up next week but only as a way to assure that his real target goes - and in THAT case it's possible but very unlikely she would go. (Depends on if its Gerry or Josh against her - if it's Jerry he'll stick by Gerry (he owes him one) But if it's Gerry and Dani - um you think Dani would go? If it's Jason and Dani - Josh Jerry and probably Lisa (since Dani voted to keep her in) would vote out Jason Anyhow your right she's not absolutely guaranteed to stay next week but I think she's the least likely one in the house to go next week everyone else there has some big axe's to grind LOL |
Bmh | Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 09:02 pm     I agree C1mag..Im afraid for her too..but if Lisa stays Danielle just has another ally because Lisa will be done with J/R/C when she finds out Chiara voted against her..and the veto can always help her..but are you sure you heard a conversation today between Roddy and Josh about getting rid of Dani..cuz I dont remember that..and Josh seems to like Dani alot..I see him voting to evict Marcellas over Dani in they were both nominated |
C1mag | Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 09:08 pm     Actually I heard the conversation last night. It was Roddy, Josh and Eric believing he was going to be in the house after this week and they started giving their pecking order and it was Dani first, then Gerry, then Marcellus, then Jason. Of coarse out of ear shot Josh was going a lot sooner than what he thought. The most important part of the conversation that I got was that Dani, Marcellus and Jason are all early targets after this week. However, If Eric goes I think they will all just go after Josh. |
Spunky | Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 09:10 pm     To quote Josh and Roddy in the hot tub, about the girls..."that's their fault...if they're so stupid.... self-destructive..." Roddy, "Yeah".. You know what? He wasn't wrong for once.. These girls are self-destructing. They've eliminated each other one by one...and now Chiara is ready to eliminate another one. Then Roddy will eliminate Danielle and Josh will eliminate Chiara. You'll have 6 men in the house. Oh joy!!! |
Bmh | Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 09:12 pm     lol ya I think so too..cuz Roddy is gonna really have to re-group after this week..cuz he fully expects to see Lisa go and when she doesn't..he is gonna be in shock..and will have to come up with a new game plan and fast And why hasn't Chiara said anything to Roddy yet about the talk she and Gerry had??..Im startin to think she came to her senses and is goin to evict Eric..knowing that in case of a tie Eric would go |
Bmh | Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 09:14 pm     Dont say that Spunky..I wont watch the show..it wont even be worth it..Keiffer agrees with me..I like hearing the girls converse because I would never get to see that in ordinary terms..so if the girls go..my bb summer is over..and I will stop watching bb3 |
Tootseug | Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 09:29 pm     Jason and Dany in the HRD playing cards. Jason whispers, "does Roddy know about any of this (voting Eric out)"?... Dany.."not a clue Jason.."does Chiara know about any of this?" Dany.."not a clue". I don't get it!! Dany told her, point blank. If I didn't know any better I'd say she was in blackout!! This is not good. |
Gouraphik | Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 09:58 pm     Well, I have said before that I don't trust Danielle. Why? Because she works hard for the money. Too hard. So hard that she ends up overplaying her hand at times. Recall that when Marcellas was HOH, and Danielle had the Veto, she wanted to free Josh and have Marc put Gerry up. It would've made little sense for Marc to screw his own plans like that...and he would likely have screwed her in return (by throwing up Roddy and letting Danielle take the heat whether Roddy or Tonya stayed). Luckily, she came to her senses and dropped the idea. Same thing's going on now. She tells a compulsive blabbermouth (Chiara) her plans, letting Roddy catch wind of what's up. Not to mention, she's telling tales all over the place. She's playing too many games, and unwittingly given Roddy the tools to do the math. Whatever her plan was (hell if I know ), giving Roddy another reason to get rid of her was definitely an unwise move. Roddy WILL gun for her if he survives. Why? Mainly because she's the only HG that he hasn't been able to manipulate with his Reality Distortion Field. She doesn't even really pretend to be "snowed", unlike some of them (like Jason). He probably was going to try and get her sooner or later, but now he'll be compelled to blow her away ASAP. Don't forget Roddy's misogyny and intellectual contempt for women. Any "mere" woman who dares to question, subvert, or ignore the word of Rod is toast. Remember Amy? |
Shannonu | Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 10:33 pm     Chiara just talking to Josh. She said something like I will have to talk to Eric next week and then quickly added or Lisa. She told Josh she will talk to him(Josh) next week and then he will really know she is diabolical. Looks like she really is going to vote Lisa out. |
Jesse | Monday, August 05, 2002 - 08:15 am     C must have been relishing the moment when she let R know she knew more than he did about what was going on about the vote. Sad thing though is that she appears more interested in proving her smarts to him more than using her smarts to win the game. |
Tripwaste | Monday, August 05, 2002 - 08:35 am     was thinking of a scenario wherein the Roddy cartel clears the house of the other people (T.O.P. II) with Chiara riding Roddy's coattails to the final 4 or 5, BUT!!! then Chiara wins HoH in a hypothetical final 4 (of say, Chiara; Rod; Josh; Gerry or Lisa), then, in the ultimate nervey, backstabbingly but gameplaying-est move ever in the history of BB (or Survivivor for that matter), she PUTS UP both Roddy and Josh for eviction, so of course Gerry or Lisa will boot out Roddy for the chance to not face the smarty, likeable guy, in favor of possibly facing the despised Tin Pan Alleycat Josh. do you think Chiara would be ruthless and ballsy enough to bust such a move? she'd be genius in motion on-the-fly if she did so in that sitch. otherwise, still a possible play for whomever gets final 4 HoH if Roddy and Josh are still mucking about. just phantasizing. |
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