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Snee

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 11:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i do chocolate.

Lilacs04

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 11:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think it's impossible that Roddy never did drugs--many people just don't see a need for it. I never did and I'm 19. I have no desire to try anything and I don't feel like I'm missing out. Good for Roddy if he can see past the idiocy.

Willsfan

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 11:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Battlestar. 6'3" is tall enough.

Manicpanic

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 12:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It kind of seems that some folks are using socio-economic status as an indicator of drug use. I am not ashamed to say I grew up quite poor, in a single parent household. Neither my brother nor I have touched an illegal drug. We both worked our way through college and had no time to goof off or whatever you want to call it. Poverty does not mean drug addict.

In fact, most of the people I knew who did use drugs on a regular basis, some to the point of serious addiction were wealthy. One of my roomates came from an incredibly wealthy family and I doubt she could have survived without cocaine and heroin-her equally wealthy boyfriend was in the same predicament.

Just a thought.

Carigsby

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Just a few thoughts.

When I was watching this conversation last night I was doing nothing but watching and listening. So, I know what I heard and when the hgs were talking about what their parents told them about drugs - Danielle said "I was never told not to do drugs - my father was a drug dealer." I heard it, I wasn't distracted, that's what she said.

Also - throughout this conversation Chiara was telling stories about people she knew and things they had done. The only illegal drugs she ever said she had actually taken were esctacy and marijuana. She had a lot of information about other types of drugs - but she never said she took them, she just told stories about people she knew who had taken them. Perhaps from the fact that she knew so much and talked for so long the impression was made that she had personally taken all of these drugs, but that is certainly not at all what she said.

Also - hemp and marijuana are not the same thing. They are very close, but smoking hemp gets you no where, that is why there are so many arguments to get hemp taken out of the category of marijuana.

Kaili

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
ManicPanic- I wasn't using SES as an indicator of if you will use drugs- I don't think any of us were- I was saying that IF a person uses drugs, the drugs they use may differ depending on SES. So it doesn't matter your wealth whether you do them or not, it is just more likely that the drugs they use will be different. And this is largely based on the cost of the specific drug (more expensive=more likey a "rich" person's drug) as well as, in some cases, the social scceptability of the drug. By this I mean something like cocaine would be more socially acceptable in wealthy settings than sitting around doing heroin because you can be much more discreet with cocaine.

Foodbunny

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 08:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Kaili, the best part of those commercials is that research has indicated that kids who have seen them are MORE likely to try drugs than kids who haven't seen them. Talking specifically about the "drugs support terrorism" commercials, not anti-drug commercials in general. Gee, insulting kids with emotionally exploitive material backfires, go figure!

Djgirl5235

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lilac - Congratulations, you have survived as long as I had before taking any sort of drug other than alcohol.

By the time I hit university, however, I was in an experimental phase, which, I may say, DID NOT last long - you will all understand in a moment: I tried hash through bottle tokes, and spent 17 hours over the toilet heaving my guts, stomach lining, and blood up. Apparently - quite allergic to Hash. Okay... that should have prevented me from doing anything else, right? Apparently, I'm...not...that...smart...... I went to a girlfriend's house one day, and on her floor is a rug with the decorative border around the outside of it - WELL!!! I took a couple tokes off a joint (marijuana) and about 5 minutes later, my head was spinning, I was nauseous, and had about 500 little cartoon general type guys with handle bar moustaches (kind of like the baron from Rocky & Bulwinkle) waving up at me from the rug. Let me tell you - that should have been enough to keep me from doing it ever again. Shall I repeat - apparently I'm... not...that...smart... I have tried pot a few more times throughout the past 8 years, and most of the time, I was either passed out within 10 minutes of taking a hit off a joint, or wanting to pass out from nausea. I have only had a couple "good" experiences with pot.

In any case, I stayed away from anything for about 6 years, and then moved to a reputably drug-infested town. I did well to stay away, and never had any problem at doing so - no-one tried to pressure you into doing anything. I dated someone whom I would actually label a "druggie" and who's entire life revolved around his drugs. Needless to say, I had a bit of a problem with that and the relationship didn't get too far. Well, then I met my fiance. He decided to let on very early that he has a joint when he comes home and a joint right before he goes to sleep. It didn't really bother me, I guess because he's a highly intelligent person, with a fantastic, albeit highly stressful job, and is extremely motivated, and strives to better himself professionally. I noticed that pot really doesn't affect him other than mellow's him out. The difference between his group of friends, and mine is pot use. All of his are avid pot smokers, none of mine are - at best, we dabble. Anyway, it was with my fiance and his friends that I had my last pot experience, and it will DEFINITELY prevent me from doing it ever again. We were at a party, and I took more than my normal drags off a joint, which my fiance had rolled. I knew where it was coming from, and trusted the source. Anyway, I ended up having to go home about 10 minutes later, since my eyes, which were wide open, were blacking out on their own, and I had the shakes, cold sweats, and had to be carried out of the apartment. I swear that I won't ever touch the stuff, but I respect that my fiance appreciates that I may not "like" his habit,which he has proven to me that it's to help him unwind after work, and to sleep at night since his mind is so overactive that he cannot sleep throughout the night with out it,long as it doesn't interfere or rule our life at any time, I won't ever stop him from it. I'm hoping that once we have children he'll quit, but that remains to be seen.

I'm definitely not one to be condescending about taking drugs, since I've definitely done them myself, apparently without using good judgement, but I digress. Whatever the HG's decide they want to share about themselves, we also have to take with a grain of salt. They could be spinning stories, or embellishing on fact to make them a more "interesting" person.

Thanks for listening - sorry for the long post.

Carigsby

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 10:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
DJgirl - Sounds like your first experience may have been laced!

Djgirl5235

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 12:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No, just too much at one time - I went a little hard thinking that it was the same as smoking a cigarette, which unfortunately I've been doing for years - too long!!! My carpet experience was more than likely laced though!

Nutsy

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 12:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lilacs - good for you! I feel the same, and I'm *ahem* a good 15 years older than you! I never felt the need/desire, and still don't. My SO does partake of the magic weed, but I honestly cannot stand the smell.

Micknrc

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 12:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Carigsby--

Good to see you back on the lfps! You took my 'house____' label before I could claim it. Maybe we ought to get together at McCarthy's (better than Lynagh's, imho) one night and settle this--woman to woman.


On another topic--Mr. Bozack is my hero--and I'm jealous of him....

Cmc209

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 12:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
@Djgirl5235 - actually, it's not that uncommon for someone to get ill from smoking pot - I know 2 people who get very nauseous smoking pot so they don't even bother trying anymore. Heck, if I remember correctly from my HS biology class from many years ago, I believe the teacher said that there is a small percentage of the population who can die from even trying cocaine - something in their system makes them allergic or something and you don't know until, well, you die....

Mr_Bozack

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 01:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Micknrc: Props and respect for the love. If you want to work in a pot-friendly environment, get a job in the music or nightclub industry. My co-workers and clients smoke up in the office during breaks (I wait until after I'm finished work though, I haven't developed the skill to smoke and work at the same time, that IMO would be going overboard--moderation is my policy).

Sia

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 01:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
DJgirl, I am glad that you've decided not to try drugs any more. I've never done drugs and really have never been tempted to; they're illegal and the fines and jail sentences imposed if one is caught with illicit drugs should be enough to ward off most any rational person. I'd be afraid of being involved with a man who smokes pot as frequently as you say your fiance' does. All the brains, motivation, and career-climbing in the world can't help a person if he's imprisoned for breaking the law, and what sort of relationship would you have then?

Please, folks, don't flame me for offering unsolicited advice; I'm just expressing an opinion: I'd be scared to death of someone who "needs" that much relaxation after work and before going to sleep. I once dated someone like that, and it was a terrible situation.

Cmc209

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 01:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
@Mr_Bozack - hehehehe.... I especially like those jobs that pretty much, in more words or less, tell you in their drug policy that it's ok to do drugs as long as you don't bring them to work or do them on the job.

Mr_Bozack

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 01:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just get your job done and everything's cool and the gang.

To quote one of the musicians in the movie "American Pop": "Hey man, if you can't handle your high, don't use it!"

Carigsby

Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 02:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Micknrc - a fellow Lexingtonian!!! We will definitely have to settle it!