Maris | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:08 am     If roddy wins the power of veto and doesnt use it to save Josh, last night's temper tantrum will be like a Mount st. Helens hiccup. The ash will be hitting the fan for sure. |
Bailey | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:19 am     If Josh wins the POV and saves Roddy, they'll just put Gerry in his place. |
Cba79 | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:25 am     Does Josh just not understand the way this house works? Why, oh why, would he want to veto Roddy? Sure, he thinks that Roddy is unbeatable, but is he that ignorant of the dynamics of the game that he doesn't realize that if he would lay low and keep his mouth shut that he (most likely) would still be in the house after Thursday night?!?!?! |
Sanfranjoshfan | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 10:37 am     I think Josh *understands* the game intellectually. The problem is, his brain (and hence his actions) are so governed by his childishness and immaturity that he can't get a handle on it. A 5 year old that has a piece of candy snatched away from him, but then told he can have twice as much later, will still probably stamp his feet and throw a fit. understanding + immaturity = a big baby |
Earthmother | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:04 am     Taking candy from babies..hmmmmmm good dad vs bad dad... just need to get some bashing out of my system (hard to forget moron, idiot, dolt comment.) lol understanding - maturity = ME I agree Josh has a slight problem with being scolded and thinks the squeeky wheel gets the oil. He seems to need instant gratification like a small child. "If I don't get what I want then I'll take my toys and go home, but not until I scream in your face and tell you I hate you." |
Hippyt | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:14 am     Ah,hahahaha!! You all crack me up! I think you're both right Earth and Sanfran! Josh just can't control himself,if only he'd just shut up and lay low! He's going to end up getting himself evicted,and I'll have to listen to more of Roddy's incessant babbling. Arrrgghhhh |
Marymc | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:22 am     am thinking josh's mom didn't use "time-out" when lil joshie was growing up. i NEVER would have tolerated such childish behavior from my toddler. now that he's 12 he can deal with self control and life's disappointments without throwing a hissy fit. |
Earthmother | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:23 am     I remember telling my kids something they didn't like and them yelling "I hate YOU" then packing a suitcase full of toys and leaving home. They were always at the corner or sitting on the back patio waiting for someone to find them and persuade them to come home. Once I knew my youngest was hold up in the back yard and we pretended we didn't. I served dinner and we settled in for TV when he finally decided it was getting too dark and was indignant that we didn't call him for dinner...I laughed till I cried, but he never tried that move again. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:23 am     This last 24 hours was just too rich. Josh, the most reviled of the bunch, whom everyone wanted out of there the first week....has given us the most entertaining day thus far....it's even funnier that it was at his own expense. This POV is gonna be a fun one to watch. If Roddy wins and doesn't use it, will we have another "I'm going home to mother!" scene of Josh storming outta there like a cheated-on wife? (no offense intended to any cheated-on wives out there!) Will a Dani POV set Josh off on a whirlwind campaign to change everybody's vote? No matter who wins it, it'll be entertaining watching the tick tock of Josh emotional time bomb winding down! LOL |
Cathie | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:29 am     Josh would use it to save Roddy for two reasons: (1) he has told EVERYONE that he wants Roddy to win BB and this would be his 'sacrificing gesture' to prove he was telling the truth about that. (2) He thinks there is no way he could stay if the vote is between Roddy and him (because he assumes everyone else has this god-like fascination with Roddy, too), and he feels his only chance to stay is if he is put up against ANYONE else but Roddy. #1 is his spoken reason, #2 is his true reason, IMHO. |
Inkydinkyspider | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:39 am     We lived on a small court and I had asked my two small daughters 5 and 6 to wash and dry several dishes while I went shopping. (there Dad was home at the time) I thought I was teaching them responsibility at an early age. When I got home their father said they were angry and packed up clothes and were going up and down the street asking the neighbours if they could move into their homes. They had also seen other kids on the street staying up much later than they could so thought this would be a great thing! When they returned home I was there and asked for a kiss goodbye. Thats when the crying starting and they said they didn't want to leave. I said OK but if they did it again they were out! lol...they never tried that stunt again. I feel Josh may have needed that type of discipline when he was younger. PS These two daughters have given me 5 beautiful grandchildren and are very close to me so I guess I wasn't such a bad mother after all - and they are always asking for advice!! |
Zeyna | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:44 am     Assuming the clique does not feel safe enough to get rid of Roddy this time What if: Dani wins veto and saves Roddy? 1. Gains his trust even more and causes just a little friction between him and Chi (Dani the saviour to Roddy) 2. Explains to Chiara that it's dangerous for Roddy to be up 'cause you never know how the votes would turn out. She's looking out for her girl. Convinces her to put up Gerry. 3. Makes Josh feel safer to be up against Gerry and ensures him that she'll do what she can so that he stays - eases his worries a bit AND saves his best friend. 4. Mar gets his wish to get Gerry out of there 5. Convinces Jason that it's better to keep Josh, since what you see is what you get. 6. Loses Gerry's vote 7. Unsure how this would play out with Lisa Any thoughts on this scenario? Sorry, I'm bored watching them sit outside with no interesting convos going on. |
Biggusbrotherus | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:47 am     Do we know what time the POV comp is ? |
Ellenkats | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:47 am     maybe soon -- Chiara was just called to diary room, but it seems they are getting ready for something now. All FOTH. |
Bmh | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:48 am     lol I like how you think Zenya..and that would make Lisa love Dani even more..Lisa hates Gerry and wants him outta the house even more than Josh..that is a really good plan..but it all depends on who wins the veto challenge |
Spunky | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:49 am     If Gerry wins it he will save Josh and Chiara will have to put Marcella up to save Roddy. Gloom and doom.. |
Ellenkats | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:50 am     Spunky -- think positive! Eric left, Chiara's been 'found out' and Roddy is nominated -- I have regained some hope in this game! |
Spunky | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:50 am     Ooops, I don't think so. Marcella is in with Dani and Jason and Lisa...Oh my!!! Roddy's fate looks bad if Gerry wins veto, unless he decides not to use it. |
Maris | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:52 am     If Chiara puts anyone else up it changes the whole game. Everyone can back away from their promise not to evict Roddy. Dani, Lisa, Jason will not vote Marc out. Lisa because Marc voted to keep her in the game even though she nominated him. Dani because she just cant turn her back on him yet. Jason because he will align with Marc and Lisa. Gerry would never vote Marc out. |
Spunky | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:55 am     That's what I figured too...after reconsidering. Well, who do you want to win POV?? I think whoever wins it should not use it. |
Bmh | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:56 am     ya Roddy would be screwed against Marcellas..gezz..Chiara would be soo screwed if Gerry won the veto..because he is the only other person besides Josh that would probably lose against Roddy..D/Ja/M/L would all win because they would protect each-other |
Bmh | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 11:57 am     I would like to see Danielle win it..just to see what she would..and if she has the guts to veto Josh.. |
Jaysgal | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 12:02 pm     Can someone please clarify: I was of the impression initially that if one chooses to exercise one's vetoing power, one can be put up in place of that person vetoed. However, I read posts that said that the person with the vetoing power could not be put up. Thus, I was of that impression for a long time. However, last time Chiara won the vetoing power, she made mention of how she could be put up, as part of her reason for not exercising such power. She said this in her speech, unless I was not listening well. So, can someone please clarify: Can the person with the vetoing power be put in place of the person vetoed? If they can be, I have to say that Gerry did a honourable thing to take that risk and Marcellas should always be grateful. |
Zeyna | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 12:04 pm     thanks bmh, I really need to get a life though. I'm getting too involed in this show. I wouldn't mind seeing Dani or Josh win this one. Anyone else not hearing FOTH music? |
Bmh | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 12:04 pm     the person that holds POV cannot be put up by the HOH |