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Twiggyish

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So, does reading the Bible and doing other similar things, constitute true Atheist behaviour?

Hillbilly

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
...Twiggy...i think it just means they read the Bible...it don't mean you are or you ain't an atheist...or you are or you ain't a Christian....

Twiggyish

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hmmmm.. something to think about.

Yellek

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"So, does reading the Bible and doing other similar things, constitute true Atheist behaviour? "

Twiggy, I think you're looking too much for rules. An atheist does not believe in god. Beyond that all actions depend on the individual. It's not like a organized religion that has certain rules and regulations to follow.

I'm sure you don't mean it this way, but to me that's like asking: "Is 'whatever' true black behavior?" (or gay, female, white, etc. any label will do)

Scarlett

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL. This thread amuses me. Mainly because I am an agnostic, leaning toward atheism, who wants so bad to "believe". I love to read about various religions and their origins. I often find that I know more about Christianity than those who profess faith in them.

I have always loved to read various religions and wonder what led people to believe as they do. To me, that is a separate issue than the actual adheerence to a religion and the reading of it's religious dogma.

On top of that, I will read ANYTHING. I am one of those who will pick up anything and read it sans an instructional manual that might ACTUALLY come in handy....LOL. So for me, and athiest and/or agnostic reading a bible is not far fetched at all....just well rounded.

Twiggyish

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ahhhaaahhh!!! Yellek. You are very wise. Your last sentence might be my point.

Scarlett, I love to read about other religions and beliefs, too. In fact, this thread lead me to find a good Atheist site, with interesting material. If I was in the BB house, I might pick up one of their essays, if it was available.

Hillbilly

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
...hillbilly peeks around to make Goddessatlaw ain't around...

Being a Christian isn't based on a set of actions. Just cause someone reads the Bible and can quote scripture or goes to church everytime the doors are open or goes out and ministers to the poor doesn't make them a Christian.

Being a Christian is based solely (this is my belief) on accepting Christ as your personal Savior. 'For by grace are ye saved through faith, not by works lest any man should boast.'

The thief on the cross that accepted Christ did nothing to earn his place in heaven, he didn't have a chance to go out and be a good person. He was saved by believing in the Son of God. Becoming a Christian is a concious, deliberate choice. It is a gift from God...he gave His only begotten Son for us.

Yellek

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for the lovely compliment Twiggy! I don't often get those when I discuss this kind of topic.

Feel free to ignore this, but you mentioned visiting an atheist site, so here's a link to a very funny agnostic site.

http://www.uctaa.org/
Their motto is "We don't know and we don't care"

Twiggyish

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
But, this isn't a religious debate in here.

You see I don't believe Roddy displays proper Atheist or Agnostic behavior. The Bible was just an example. When I think of more, I'll post them.

Hillbilly

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
...now how did I get back in this discussion...better scoot before Goddess comes back!....

hillbilly scoot

Twiggyish

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'll check it out. I sort of like their motto!

Shoofly

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy and science

Gerry and Job

Job and Bible

Boils and Lisa

Eric; not me

Eyes Up and Whew!

Scarlett

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Twig

One of the things I hate is that most religious people can not tell you why they believe as they do. A professor once told my class that he could predict with 99 percent acuracy what religion you were without ever asking a question about you. The question he would ask is "What religion did your parents practice?". Virtually everyone follows the same religious path as their parents. That could be a good thing or a bad thing. What amazes me is people who never question why they believe what they do. People talk about blind faith. Even Jesus said you should question. To me, if a religion is the real deal, it will stand up to any scrutiny or religious study you can deliver to it.

Twiggyish

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Scarlett. It also allows that any religion would accept the exploring of other religions or beliefs. It doesn't mean you are not "faithful".
But, I digress and this is getting too preachy. (no offense)

Very good Shoofly!

Wcv63

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My mother is a Catholic, my father is an atheist. I am a lapsed Catholic who questioned the existence of God. I have faith and am Christian but do not participate in organized religion.

Costacat

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm curious... what *would* be "proper Atheist or Agnostic behaviour"?

I mean, not believing in God doesn't preclude someone from reading about God, does it?

Really... he may just be reading the old testament and thinking about parables, yes? We really don't know what he's thinking...

Twiggyish

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 07:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Costa, I'll have to get back to you with a very deep thoughtful reply.

Sanfranjoshfan

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 08:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Costacat - not praying

Twiggyish

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 08:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That must be part of it. But, surely there is a universal code of conduct for all Atheists.

Wigglepuppy

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 08:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, my husband and I live by the code of treating people kindly, not killing anything (not really even bugs) on purpose, and living every day to it's fullest. That's our happy atheist code, if you will, that we and all our atheist (and non-atheist) friends abide by. Oh yeah, and not praying, Sanfran :)

Deaffy

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 08:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gosh Wigglepuppy, you're not doing much to help reinforce how evil we atheists are ... should have tossed in some sacrificing or church desecration in there, too!

Wigglepuppy

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 08:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And the best part about it - you've gotta be with me on this, Deaffy - no church! no temple! no Sunday school! But since Christmas and Easter are so commercialized and firmly entrenched in our culture, we get to participate in seasonal frolicking. Ah, the joys of atheism.

Sanfranjoshfan

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 08:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wigglepuppy - sounds like a great atheist sect! Which one is it?

LOL

Costacat

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wigglepuppy, you could be a Buddhist! <grin>

Or rather, make that a nonpracticing one. No temple. No prayers. But creating good causes to ensure positive actions in the future.

Oh, and since I'm Buddhist, I get to celebrate all the holidays, too. But not for the secular reasons (I just like all the colored lights and colored eggs! <snicker>).

Twiggyish

Monday, August 12, 2002 - 09:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So do you think Roddy lives up to these standards? He doesn't treat people kindly.

Deaffy..LOL