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TV ClubHouse: Archives: Archive Two: Roddy Threatening Jay?: Archive through August 09, 2002

Ryanc2002

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 01:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That's what it sounds like to me, talking about Trust and Honesty.

Fabnsab

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 01:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, the Godfather is making me want to scream!!!!He is using Jasons integrity to try to trip him up. Rod is talking about lying but Chia lied to Lisa. This is truly infuriating me.

Biggusbrotherus

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 01:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy is shamelessly trying to guilt Jason. Interesting to see if Jason has the balls and brains to stand up. Jason's already caved and gone against Dani's request not to tell Roddy.

Cute1073

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 01:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i don't think that Jason is fooled by roddy for an instant.....remember when he said that he and his father practiced before comeing into the house? Apparently Jason's father threw every senerio in the book at him.
I think Jason is handling Roddy very well!

Annitar

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 01:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I cannot believe the things Roddy gets away with in that house!!! They have to get him out ASAP! I have never seen anyone try to control people more than Roddy does. He drives me nuts. I wish Jason would tell both Roddy & Chia to get off his back, that it's none of their business how he voted. Funny how Chia is getting away with stabbing Lisa in the back and she has the nerve to corner Jason. Uggghhh!

Cute1073

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 01:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
whats all this about it being nobody's business how anyone voted?
This isn't a national election people...it's big brother...its EVERYBODY's business to ask about votes....it happens to be your choice about what your answer is! it's all part of the game...one of the many factors you have to consider when voting. I think jason wishes no one would ask him but i'm sure he expected it. He is handling it well!
It's your own fault if someone asks you that question and you tell them the truth or the whole story. Jason understands this game better than anyone else...he fully expected this to happen.

please...no one's business

Wendo

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 01:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy certainly has balls, I'll give him that. Who the h*ll is he to decide who gets to the end, as he just said to Ja. Man, Roddy is just...well...YUCK!

Maryk

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 01:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason was the one that went to Roddy to explain his vote. Why can't Roddy ask Jason where his true loyalties lie? Come on.

Ryanc2002

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 01:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maryk - It was how he did it.

Annitar

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 01:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"please...no one's business" Jeez Cute, sorry but I DON'T think it's Roddy place to be asking Jason!! Like I said if I were Jason I'd tell him to go screw himself!

Cute1073

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 01:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo...i think everyone is deciding who will be around at the end. If you play the game you have to act like you think you will be there in the end...and you have to think about who you want with you.
I understand you don't like Roddy but don't blame him for doing something everyone else in the house is doing. I've heard Dani, Jason, Marc, Josh, Roddy, Chiara, Lisa, Gerry.....everyone talk about who they think will be there in the end.
I'm sure you can think of more reasonable things to be mad at roddy about...he is playing the game like everyone else....no....wait...he is playing it better than everyone else...except maybe Jas and Dani.

Cute1073

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 01:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
yeah...but thats what I mean annitar....Roddy has every right to ask....and jason has every right to say 'go screw yourself'
Should people in this house walk around not asking people they think (operative word is think) are their allies how they voted and where their loyalties lie?
No matter how roddy approached him it's up to Jason to answer the question however he wants.
In this house, everything is everyone's business. That is the nature of the house...remember there are cameras everywhere? They all live together? you know? That way everything is everyone's business.

Somehow I think that if it were jason asking roddy how he voted there wouldn't be all this uproar about it not being jason's business.

Wendo

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 01:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cute, Oh, I know. I guess with Roddy it's just his delivery. He's just so condescending to Jason. I know, Jason is a big boy and can, and is, take care of himself. It's just, oh, I want to go in there and tell Roddy, Dude, you're smart, intelligent, and you're a good game player, but you'd be better if you would just tone it down a notch. Ya know? LOL!

Whit4you

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 01:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm listening to the Rod / Jason convo... to tired to type it (worked 10 hour day) But um... no Rod's not threatening Jason he's trying to snowball Jason and I don't personally think Jason is buying it... he's um based on MY personal perception of this convo.. that' he's trying to friend -guilt trip Jason into going with him the rest the time...

Rod..."Jay you can do no wrong in my eyes...

Jay - "I did"

Rod - "no you really can do no wrong in my mind, you made a mistake...but "

My PERSONAL perspectived is Rod being so manipulative... he's lost his right hand man he's looking to get another.... I don't THINK Jason is buying it... he's not like what I think Rod's used to and that is an abused woman.....(sorry just sharing my opinoin... but um I've been there and heard these lines...)

Cute1073

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 01:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
lol Wendo....I know what you're saying.
I was think the same thing about josh just a few minutes ago...like to tell him what an idiot he is.

Wendo

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 01:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Another thing Cute (and thread) :) ...

I suppose with Roddy et. al. their alliance is just so blatant that it's frustrating. Perhaps if they kept it more "under wraps" I'd feel differently, like how I feel with Ja and Dan. They've done such a good job of keeping their partnership so hidden and they don't use it to garner things from other people. Well, maybe Mar, but he's no fool either.

It's just the game I guess. When I post, it's just thoughts and rants. No biggie, K? ;)

Wendo

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 01:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You know what I want right now? A Ja/Dani card playing session. I want to know what REALLY is going on in Jason's head. Because, I think Jason's only truly honest with her and no one else. That's what I need. I need to know what's going on in this kids head. LOL!

Cute1073

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 01:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
no doubt wendo...i agree....

Goddess146

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 02:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Both ChiChi and Roddy admire Jason so much that they can not stand the thought that Jason might not trust them. Their self esteem really needs Jason to like, trust and admire them. They are both going way out their way to "forgive" him.

The image is almost as if Jesus himself had rejected them.

Wendo

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 02:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Goddess, in addition, they can't stand the thought that Jason is playing them. They can't even fathom it.

What Roddy and Chiara have done is tie emotional feelings to Jason in the game, and that's bad, for them. Jason, though, has not. And after they finally part ways tonight (they're talking in the kitchen), Jason will walk away the winner.

Seamonkey

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 04:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy is doing what everyone else is doing, but he seems to use the most manipulation and threat, as if he really has the right. Josh tries but cannot be taken seriously.

Roddy seems to be trying to reach into minds and use manipulation, guilt-tripping (how often does he wrong someone and actually nag at them until they end up apologizing for making him uncomfortable??)..

whit.. I agree that he has the makings of a cruel mental abuser.. he loves those mind games, keeping someone off balance.. does it to Chiara all the time.

Missy2

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 05:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Did Jay tell Dani about any of this? I hope he does not turn over to Rod.

What555456

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 06:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
So, the other HG's are beginning to see through Jason's little game. VERY cool. But it was bound to happen.

Now that they are starting to notice him, they will talk about him more realistcially, start to see all the inconsistencies and they will lose their respect for him.

This could become quite the problem for Jason, if they decide he has done them wrong and lied about it -- or even just led them on. The problem with holding yourself up as a saint is that people eventually find out the truth and then you are seen nothing more than the hypocritical devil you really are.

Earthmother

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 07:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
People tend to be able to accept a cold calculated approach like Dani's because she is a woman. It is on the other hand very hard to be subjective when this same behavior is being exibited by a man because then it becomes control which translates to threats.
I find the this perception the most interesting part of reading these posts. Dani and Roddy are playing a similar game, while Jason is taking the smoother approach but playing it none the less. I think these 3 have played this game in a way that's the easiest to detect, while the others who are still playing are more difficult to read. Roddy is just playing his game, but may make a strategic error and this could be the one.

Ellenkats

Friday, August 09, 2002 - 07:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What -- Jason never touted himself as some perfect saint but as a christian. Christians don't claim perfection, they instead claim they are forgiven -- big difference. Falling short of the christian ideal hardly makes you a devil. Sorry if I am ranting, I just hate to see someone scrutinized and criticised for trying to play the same game all the others are playing.