Ginger1218 | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 02:55 pm     I am willing to guarantee, that they have all signed contracts, and if they walk out they will not only lose their stipend, but they will be sued. So -- that being the case - how come these whining - self-absorbed babies, are constantly crying about walking about when they get voted off, or find out somebody does not like them? GET REAL!!!! |
Cameltoes | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 02:57 pm     I do believe they are allowed to walk out. I mean it's not prison. They do lose their stipend (and there are other consequences such as not doing any interviews or getting other opportunities since CBS "owns" them for a year) but I don't think they could be sued. |
Draheid | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 02:59 pm     It was also mentioned when Marcellas and Amy threatened to walk that they would not even be provided transportation or airfare to return home. Also, Cameltoes, I remember reading somewhere on the threads that Gerry was saying the terms are actually THREE YEARS ... I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that's what he said at some point.. FWIW |
Ginger1218 | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:01 pm     Yes, it is not prison, but I do believe they would be sued. It is considered breach of contract. And they all had to sign one. |
Jesse | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:02 pm     In the US, a person can no longer sell him/herself in an "indentured slave contract." CBS may take away the stipend, but they may not sue the employee for refusing to continue working for them. |
Bmh | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:06 pm     They are allowed to leave..but they get no money or support whatsoever..and any publicity BB gets the person that walks out is exculded..I mean after Justin did what he did..he disappeared just like that |
Ginger1218 | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:07 pm     Have you never heard of Employment Contracts???? They are drawn up constantly. If somebody signs a contract to star in a movie and then backs out, it is Breach of Contract and they are sued. Believe me, I know what I speak of. I work in a law firm. |
Kellirippa | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:08 pm     If they are susceptable to being sued for walking out, why provide the panic buttons? |
Ginger1218 | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:08 pm     They are allowed to leave if BB wants them to leave. If they do not tell them to leave, then they are not fulfilling their contract. I am sure BB has put in clauses enabling them to get rid of someone who is a problem. |
Ellenkats | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:10 pm     Kelli - you prefer them have no way out? That would make it a prison. Of course, that could be fun to watch -- a house full of Josh's.... |
Jesse | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:12 pm     This is not a typical employment contract . . . they are locked in 24/7 and have turned their lives over to CBS . . . without a provision to get out of this contract, CBS would be in breach of laws against indentured servitude. |
Duncan | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:12 pm     I am sure there is a provisin in their contracts covering their leaving voluntarily. One cannot expect these people to not have a way out if it gets to be too much for them. However, since I have not seen these contracts, in exactly the same way Ginger has not seen these contracts, I can say nothing for certain. |
Kellirippa | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:13 pm     The walls are full of people, I think they would have a way out! I'm just saying, if they are made aware of panic buttons, it would seem to me that they would percieve that to be an option. |
Stingerman | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:16 pm     Prison you say Ehh!!! Well lets stick the cast from Oz and the Saproano's in there and let them fight it out. |
Jesse | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:19 pm     I'd love to see Ozzie Osbourne in there |
Ginger1218 | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:21 pm     True Duncan, I have not seen the contracts, but I don't believe BB would leave themselves open to any HG just getting pissed and leaving. I know they cannot force them to stay, but I think that the other option would probably be something that would make it very difficult for them to leave (for example a lawsuit). I could be wrong, but I don't think so. |
Ginger1218 | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:25 pm     True Duncan, I have not seen the contracts, but I don't believe BB would leave themselves open to any HG just getting pissed and leaving. I know they cannot force them to stay, but I think that the other option would probably be something that would make it very difficult for them to leave (for example a lawsuit). I could be wrong, but I don't think so. |
Kellirippa | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:26 pm     The hg's must have read the contracts, they would know if they would be sued for leaving. Josh and Amy both prepared to leave and all they mentioned was that they would loose their stipend and (in the case of Amy) would be on their own as far as getting home. I believe that a hg leaving might make for good TV and higher ratings. |
Ginger1218 | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:26 pm     LOL sorry, posted it twice |
Seanflynn | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:27 pm     Ginger Trust us, there is no way that CBS can force someone to stay if he/she wanted to walk and was willing to forgo stipend/transportation and hold to other terms of the contract. To sue someone for leaving is totally out of the question. Employment laws, particularly in California (although this would be true in any state), would not permit imprisonment with no option to leave. |
Amac | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:27 pm     Josh was going to walk last night and Marc is talking about it today. Have any of them mentioned the possiblity of a lawsuit from ASP/CBS if they walk? Surely they've read their own contracts and know what's in them. |
Ellenkats | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:28 pm     Kelli -- I had to 'lol' at the thought of them kicking in a wall to escape through the camera tunnel. |
Luvmom | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:28 pm     In BB 1 the whole group was prepared to leave at one point.If they could have been sued,I'm sure it would have come up at the round table discussion they had.I remember on the Early show at the time they were talking about the walkout and nothing was mentioned about a lawsuit. |
Jadebutterfly | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:30 pm     Plus, CBS would be creating a bit of a PR nightmare for themselves. A lawsuit might scare off potential people for future reality shows. I'm sure they make it really unattractive to just bail, but I don't think that it would include being sued. |
Kellirippa | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:33 pm     Lol @ ellenkats, that's not quite the image I was trying to put across. I just mean, they aren't on the moon here, they could just look into a camera and say..."help, help, I gotta get outta here". |
Ellenkats | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:40 pm     I know Kelli, but I liked my image better. ;-) Of course, just saying :"help, help, I gotta get outta here" might be perceived as dramatics -- not an actual appeal for release. :-) |
Kellirippa | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:42 pm     Dramatics? Dramatics? With this group! Oh surely you jest! |
Cndeariso | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 03:53 pm     Aren't there 'panic buttons' in the house in case someone wants to leave? |