Jason and Chiara
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Celeb_Dancer_7 | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 04:38 pm     What's with the fight's I've been hearing about? I heard that they got into two different arguements. What about? |
Sherbear | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 04:50 pm     It was a lie Chiara told Lisa. She told her that Jason and her got into an argument because they were both torn over who to vote for. This was suppose to have happened while Lisa and Eric were on there date. It didn't happen. |
Wendo | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 05:07 pm     And, Lisa knows it was a lie too. Lisa asked Dani and Mar if it happened and they both said, no way, that DID NOT happen. Another ding against Chiara in Lisa's mind. |
Cyn | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 05:16 pm     no, lisa said this supposied arguement with ch and ja was told to her by roddy immediately after eric walked out the door. dan chimed in with he's even trying to cover ch's mistakes. lisa said: "no, that's not why. he's doing it for ??????." and, i missed what her reason was. but, roddy definitely was the one who made this story up. |
Wendo | Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 05:20 pm     Ah, I think you're right Cyn, Lisa did say it was Roddy. Thanks for the clarification. |
Krossd | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 09:49 am     and speaking of Jason and Chiara... I've been thinking.... doesn't it seem that Lisa would be more Jason's type. She doesn't talk about herself all day, (hardly ever, and only when asked), other than her put downs of Jerry she is pretty considerate of others, and she doesn't have a potty mouth and can still talk openly about sex. Seems to me Jason and Lisa were a more likely match. Anyone else had these thoughts. Don't understand what Jason sees in Chi given his niceness. |
Costacat | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 09:54 am     You know how when you pass a really really REALLY bad accident, you can't look away? Well, personally, I think that's the attraction Jason has to Chiara... he just CAN'T look away. It's a morbid fascination... |
Ravenly | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 10:10 am     LOL Costacat...that is funny! I hope its true. I canNOT figure out if Jason IS attracted to chiara, WHY he is! I am still thinking he isn't and he is just playing it up to gain trust from her and Roddy. I know plenty of Christian men and not one of them would be able to tolerate Chiara. She is truly one of hte most obnoxious people I have ever seen. |
Costacat | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 10:18 am     I don't know any Christian men, but I do know a lot of men. And I'm not sure any of 'em would be able to tolerate Chiara. |
Flyonthwall | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 10:30 am     I didn't see any argument on the LF during the "dinner date" and I covered it. But one thing that did happen, wasn't a fight but was tension, was Josh was upset that Chi was taking over the dinner. He told Roddy about his feelings on it, and he was a bit irritable. Seems it was Josh's idea to do it and he was cooking the meal. Chi jumped in on it and took over. She made plans on how everything should go and was going to be their server. I think Josh wanted to cook and serve because that is "his real job" outside the house. He takes it very seriously. He was giving Chi tips during the meal about what to do. Roddy talked to CHi about this and said Josh was a little upset that Chi was trying to run it. Asked Chi to work with him. Chi did and asked the whole house to really get into it. Later Roddy and Dani made it a point to let Eric and Lisa know it was Josh's idea. So in Roddy's mind, based on what Josh said during the dinner and how he was upset, not raving mad, when he told Lisa about it, he might have used the term "fight". When it was just a dissagrement. That's my take on it anyway. No one else would have known all this because Josh talked to Roddy. That's basiclly how I remember it. If there had been a fight that night I would have known because I was on quad cam and posted the whole dinner. |
Earthmother | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 10:41 am     I think the most telling moment of the Jason/Chiara relationship was when she was laying on the bed and spread her legs practicing her sex positions. It was quick but very telling..Jason was on the floor leaning against the dresser and he had a look of disgust on his face. The he said "Could you wait til I leave the room to do that?" He does not appreciate her humor but in this game he is playing it to both inside and outside hgs. He doesn't know when the evicted hgs will actually get to see tapes and he's not taking any chances. I also don't think she get's that not all people are horny for the sake of it. Jason has set high goals for himself and if there were a girl in that house that caught his eye and made him want her it would not be someone who has no pride in herself or doesn't care what others think of her. It is the best thing for him to be in the house with females who probably turn him off. |
Krossd | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 11:16 am     I agree with you Costacat and Earthmother (and I have heard other similar remarks Jason has made to Chiara when she goes past 'too far'). I read somewhere that Jason and his father practiced scenerios on his stategies and he likely is using it as such with C. (Anyone know more about this, as in how is this known?) Maybe if Lisa hadn't gotten 'taken' with Eric they'd have spent more time together and become romantic in that 'sweet way', or 'special' friends. It is nice to know that men are not that attracted to women (girls) like Chira, at least not for the long haul, or past superficially. Funny, but Chiara puts it out that she is all for slutty behavior but what she really wants is the domestic stuff (naming kids and cleaning). I don't think she is as pretty as Lisa (esp with her hair down), nor is she as attractive personalitywise. I'd be totally taken with Lisa if she wasn't being so cruel in her Jerry remarks, or at least if she would not participate in that with the others. She is my favorite, if you can't tell |
Mrose4243 | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 01:04 pm     Right now - 1:12pm BB time Chiara is turning on Jason -- Feed #2 Jason put her in a bad position by voting to evict eric.....exposed her to lisa.... |
Wcv63 | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 01:14 pm     It's possible that Jason is one of those rare people that sees the good in people. He also could be just trying to get along. |
Snee | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 01:36 pm     didn't chiara put herself in that bad position with lisa? |
Wcv63 | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 01:38 pm     Yes Snee but that would require Chiara thinking logically and taking some personal responsibility. It's so much easier to place blame elsewhere and serves her purposes in this game. |
Cyn | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 01:56 pm     exactly, snee! chiara did this herself and the more she talks - the further she goes down. lisa is not a dumb girl. she has been playing very cautious and reserved. she got caught up in eric's presence and ignored the game. but now that he's gone, she comes out a bit more to play. compiled with her coming out and her health coming around, she starts to realize the lies are not so hidden from her view. Oh wait, this is about jason and chiara. If jason votes with chiara and roddy, are we suppose to let it slide with the thought that he is naïve? |
Wcv63 | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 02:07 pm     Naive? No...just more serving of his purposes at this juncture. He knows he is going to have to lie (has done so already) but doesn't want to totally destroy his credibility yet. It's still too early in the game. |
Curlyq | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 02:12 pm     As much as I enjoyed Jason's reprimand on last night's show (and her reaction as she meekly pulled her legs back under the covers) I still can't get past the statement he made the other day. When talking to Chiara he said this thing about him having a crush on her isn't just a joke, because he really does have a crush on her. Maybe he was just "acting", but I have a feeling he does have some weird attraction to her. It could be because she's given him so much attention since the beginning. It could also be that he sees her as a Mary Magdalene type who just needs some understanding. His comment that he wouldn't pass up a chance to be with a woman just because she made a mistake over and over and over again was very telling. He was aiming it at Chiara, and it showed that he thinks of her activities as a series of mistakes that he could look past. She however has made it clear that her choice of lifestyle was not a mistake but deliberately chosen. I don't know if he's realized the difference yet. |
Wendo | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 03:24 pm     I'm troubled that Chiara is focused on Jason and his supposed betrayel. Very troubled. Couple that with what Roddy said about Danielle (that she came to him wanting a deal - not true) and they're both in real trouble, especially if Roddy gets HOH. I'm starting to think, also, that Roddy intends to bring Gerry with him to the end. Seriously. I think he thinks he has a real chance with Gerry since he knows the other HG's find him distasteful. I'll say it again, Dan, Mar, Ja, Ger, and Lisa need to take Roddy out THIS WEEK. They need to get past their personal feelings about Josh and realize he is not a threat to them at this point of the game; Roddy is the threat, possibly the biggest threat of them all (Chiara a close second.) She would be neutrelized with him out of the game. |
Goddessatlaw | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 03:29 pm     I agree, Wendo - and I'm hoping that Chiara's complete inability to keep her mouth shut and her need to confront people will catch up with her this time. If Jason catches wind that Chiara's zoning in on him he'll quickly realize that she's also targeting Jason in her talks with Roddy. Maybe THEN Jason will wise up and vote Roddy out. Same thing if Jason realizes Roddy's zoned in on Dani. |
Draheid | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 03:53 pm     Goddessatlaw: Why is it that, after reading a post by you, I am usually looking for a closing line such as: "Your witness" "I rest my case" or even the classic "If the glove don't fit you must acquit" Hmmmm....JMO - FWIW |
Groucho | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 03:53 pm     snee -- I'm not a Chiara fan but I can understand why she would feel like Jason put her in a bad position with Lisa. She voted against Lisa on the belief that Eric would stay if she did, and because of Jason's vote, it didn't happen that way. Now her position is a lot weaker than if she'd just voted to save Lisa. An analogy: Suppose this week that Ja, D, and M all agree to evict Roddy. Then Ja changes his mind at the last minute, and Roddy stays, 3-2. D and M put their necks out on the assumption that R would be gone. If they knew he was staying for sure, they would have voted the other way and not exposed themselves. But now they are exposed because of Jason, and Roddy will come after them once he figures out the votes. They'd be rightfully pissed at Jason then. I think that's how Chiara sees the situation with Jason and Lisa. I don't know whether she actually had a firm commitment from Jason, or whether she just assumed that he would vote to save Eric. At the very least, he knew how Chiara was voting and that it would likely be to her disadvantage, and let her vote that way anyway. In any case, I think she's justified in questioning Jason's loyalty to her. And of course we the viewers know that Jason's loyalty to her is in fact questionable. I think the only reason Jason gets away with this is because they treat him like a clueless innocent who didn't realize the consequences of his actions. If it was Josh who did this instead of Jason, I think the HGs would be ripping him apart right now. |
Annavenis | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 04:01 pm     Groucho - you're right about how Jason gets away with it but what burns my backside is how Chiara and Roddy think the other HG's have to vote based on what their (R/C) agenda is. Ummmm... excuse me but do they believe that everyone else is a doormat, waiting for their opportunity to have R/C wipe their feet on them on the way to collecting 500 g's... Gimme a break! I hope Jason clues in and votes to evict Roddy. Too many risks if he doesn't! Ack... I hate this game.. I love it.. I hate it.. HELP ME! |
Groucho | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 04:22 pm     Annavenis -- I agree, R and C are arrogant in their belief that they can control the other HGs' votes. I think it will be their downfall. When the two of them have been HoH, they've targeted two people who weren't major threats to them -- Amy and Josh. (Amy may have been a threat to Chiara, but not to Roddy, who put her up. And she wasn't much of a long-term threat, since she wasn't playing strategically.) If they were smart, they would have targeted people like Dani, Marc, and Jason instead of Josh and Amy. Those folks are more serious threats. Imagine if Amy were still there instead of Marc, and if Dani and Jason were up this week instead of Josh and Roddy. R and C would be in a much stronger position. I'm enjoying watching their arrogance come back to haunt them. |
Costacat | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 04:37 pm     I'm thinking that Roddy is getting a little less arrogant about how much he can control the other HGs. He is definitely not too pleased about being put up for eviction. He has a bit of the scared "rabbit in the headlights" look. I'm agreeing with Goddess, too... I've got lots of hope riding on the fact that Chiara is gonna do a self-destruct thing this week. Tensions are high in the house, everyone suspects everyone else of lying, and all it will take is one confrontation and she'll be totally exposed. At that point, I think Lisa, Jason, Marcellas, Danielle, *and* Gerry will do a unanimous eviction of Roddy. Well, OK, one can hope, can't one? Instead of a 5-0 vote to evict Josh, it'll be 5-0 to evict Roddy! I'll be laughing my a&& off if that happens! I'd pay big money to see Roddy's face, in person, if that happened! |
Krossd | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 04:57 pm     It is good stategy having Jason on the (possible or somewhat) inside with R and C, while Dani is on, and works the other side. When D & Ja connect they can pass details. Like, Goddestatlaw pointed out - "Chiara's complete inability to keep her mouth shut and her need to confront people", may help Jason hear about this lie (Dani's 'offer'). The total boredom is relieved by - Drama - from talking. What else is there to do? Let your mouth run Kiki (It'ss a long way to Wed (when they vote), who knows what BB will do to spur them on. |
Mrdisguise | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 05:21 pm     the kind of girl that Jason might be attracted to is golden girl, Neleh, from Survivor 4- Marquesas. Joshua- did Jason ever mention if he had a crush on Neleh? thanks. |
Becca | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 05:47 pm     Yes, however, the point is, Jason said as of now I'm voting out lisa. HE never said I really want Lisa gone. He told Roddy he wasn't sure. Jason's vote is Jason's vote, he shouldn't have to vote a certain way just because it's what Rod wants. He even tried to convince Chiara not to vote that way. An alliance is suppose to be "a group partnereship, not one person dictating orders. Lisa and Eric were both part of that alliance, and the fact that Eric turned on Josh, gives Jason the right to turn on him. Roddy and Chiara have no right to come up to someone and say, how are you voting. This is what they did, Roddy cornered Jason and started basically telling him how to vote. It's not like Jay volunteered the information, I'm going to vote out Lisa. Chiara was going to do what she wanted to do regardless of the situation. |
Ravenest | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 06:00 pm     I think Jason is a superb player in this game. IMO, if he does have an attraction to Chiara, that would be the equivalent of girls who always go for the "bad guys" (like I always went for). Sometimes I chose guys who I could "help", sometimes I chose guys who I lusted for, etc. This is very normal behavior for Jason, if this is the way he feels towards her. Chiara sometimes plays a "bad girl", but she still has likeable qualities and I imagine she's quite fun to go on a girls' night out with. |
Mrdisguise | Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 07:20 pm     Jason seems like a shy guy. Since Chiara pays so much attention to him, he likes her. Does Lisa talk to Jason? Jason said that he thought Amy was attractive and funny. But she seemed to be more interested in Roddy or cheese or booze. |
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